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[Moto X General] r_diaz13:
So the system and boot from here can be restored on an T-Mo 1053 no problems.

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Let me explain a bit more. I've been on the soak test 5.0.2 for the unlocked 1053 and got the notice for the test ota 5.1. I had rooted before and made small system changes, so I restored my previous stock unrooted TWRP backup, and flash the recovery .IMG I had (4.4.4) but the ota is failing. Either someone has the 5.0.2 recovery img and can share it, or a TWRP back up of 5.1 for 1053? I saw someone else commented and said they were able to restore this backup and had no problems, others did.

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Hi, this worked just fine for you? Still no issues? The phone still thinks it's a 1053 lol? Curious to know how you did it as I'm looking to do the same. Currently running soak 5.0.2. Got the OTA for the 5.1 but can't find the 5.0.2 stock recovery to take the OTA.
[Moto X General] lolcopter:
Welcome to Android
[Moto X General] DonDizzurp:
LOL at people thinking stock will have the best stability

What if the OEM no longer cares for the phone and doesn't release bug fixes and software updates? There are plenty of cases where a custom ROM trumps a half-assed stock build.
[Moto X General] Kustaa:
Yeah well...by not having the complete X8 drivers? I doubt it. I understand you, but this might not be the case...
[Moto X General] imnuts:
Nearly all ROM's that aren't stock based have something wrong with them. It may be trivial, but it is still a problem. The only way a custom ROM can match the stock ROM is if it is a Nexus device, or similar, where all of the code and proprietary drivers are readily available for building with AOSP. That limits you greatly to GPE devices, a few from Sony, and Nexus phones.
[Moto X General] gabo_10:
So nobody did the backup from the latest update to flash it? Or modify it to install it through TWRP?
[Moto X General] whgp:
I think We will not get any updates soon .it is just a false statement to save face for motorola.
[Moto X General] johnrangoo:
Blablabla
[Moto X General] s5610:
What you want, and what you have, exactly? There is 5.1 1058 Brasil TWRP backup in neighbour topic. If you have unlocked boot - go on )
[Moto X General] gabo_10:
I mean the last update released, this, I can't flash it directly, so I was expecting someone upload the modified file for TWRP or a backup
[Moto X General] WillisD:
Just got an update for Motorola update services from the play store, xt1060 de
[Moto X General] s5610:
gabo_10,

Sorry, but, really, why don't you take 5.1 1058 Brasil TWRP backup in neighbour topic? )
[Moto X General] gabo_10:
it seems that someone must learn to understand
[Moto X General] perfoliate:
He's trying to say there is a nandroid backup of the build your looking for in the other thread [emoji6]

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3107160
[Moto X General] Liamfm:
What version are you on now?
[Moto X General] WillisD:
4.4.4 stock
[Moto X General] Jizzylax:
What version of the update services?
[Moto X General] WillisD:
Version 4.0
[Moto X General] s5610:
Ouch! That hurts! Somebody, 9-1-1 ! :laugh:

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It was earlier, nothing new here, really (
[Moto X General] Dadud:
that version came out last month.
[Moto X General] WillisD:
I know, looked it up earlier
[Moto X General] geoghegan691:
Does anyone know when the moto xt1052 will get updated to lollipop in England, I had a moto g xt1032 till a week ago when I lost it somewhere and that got 5.0.2 about 2 month's ago and I thought the difference was well worth it, not for the really tech bits that I don't really understand but the cosmetics and battery life and speed, I on 4.4.4 on moto x, and can't wait for upgrading. I'm not rooted just plain moto x xt1052 on kit at. Thanks for any info
[Moto X General] cindylike24:
No one knows when it will be updated at all. My advice to you is just to hang tight and be patient. I have a feeling that it will be coming out here pretty soon. I'm kind of hoping right before Memorial Day weekend so I can play with it while I'm off from work when I have some extra time.

Cindy
[Moto X General] R3dbeaver:
Man I'm starting to think we won't ever get it.....................

I just came back after not visiting this thread for a couple months, and VOILA! Still no official news.
[Moto X General] MortimerR:
That's not true. We have official news.

5.1 is coming.....soon...at some point.

I just hope it's out before Google I/O. Because I'm worried if they announce Android M then the Moto team will put off 5.1 and focus on M.
[Moto X General] whgp:
Why Motorola Humiliating to lying constantly Under the argument "coming soon"

We look at this "coming soon" a month ago (04-22-2015) and no news so far????!!
[Moto X General] lolcopter:
http://www.cnet.com/news/android-users-outraged-over-motorolas-broken-promise/
[Moto X General] Dadud:
Maybe somebody will take notice and take a look and see what can be done about the bootloader now that the 1058 and 1060 have root. Im honestly to the point where i want to accidently break my screen while im still in warranty and see if i cant stumble upon a 4.4.2 phone.
[Moto X General] WillisD:
Will never happen, all phones certified replacements will have latest software
[Moto X General] Just_Jim:
Wrong. I got several HTC One M8s trying to get one that actually worked and the all came with 4.4.2 even after 5.0 was released.
[Moto X General] WillisD:
Only replacement with 4.2.2 was straight from Motorola with my Dev x so good luck
[Moto X General] jcrahul:
I had an atrix 4G before the moto X..... Motorola had promised 4.0 update but the never came out with it stating it was difficult to work with the tegra 2 hardware :/ sadness hope they dont do the same thing with thte moto x as it has a unique hardware :(
[Moto X General] dromango:
I too owned a photon 4g and was disappointed. The moto x has not had any real updates for two years now.
[Moto X General] Verdnan:
Not true I got a phone with JB on it. And I got my replacement from Motorola under my warranty.
[Moto X General] WillisD:
I did too, but anything done through vzw will have 4.4.4 when you get it
[Moto X General] cindylike24:
Why in the world has this thread deteriorated into one that everyone can just whine and complain about not having 5.1 lollipop update for their phone? This started out as a thread for news about the 5.1 update (which was great!) but has become one where people are just complaining about not getting this update (which is really disappointing). The people that they need to be talking to are the ones at Motorola directly not bashing them on here. Personally, I have been happy with the Motorola smartphones and when the time comes, I may get another Motorola phone because they have always been quality smartphones for me.

In the grand scheme of things, is it really that big of a deal whether we get the update right this minute (and possibly get one with lots of bugs in it) or if it comes out next month and we get a solid update as a result? I can think of a lot more pressing things that I can be more concerned about than this (family, friends, severe weather coming through the area, etc.). In the interest of full disclosure, I've tried 5.1.1 when flashed CM12.1 on my phone because I wanted to see how it would look and work on my phone. It was really nice but I missed being able to use some of the Motorola apps that are very helpful while I'm driving in my car. That and some of the icons didn't show up on my status bar right. On most of them, I'd just get a plain white box that came up on my status bar showing me that I had a notification. I like to be able to see what app the notification is coming from at a glance so I know if I should take the time out to check it out. That's why I went back to 4.4.4 until they get 5.1 out to us. I may have to add a few personalization apps to get it just exactly the way I want it but that's a small price to pay to get something to tide me over until this update rolls out.
[Moto X General] geoghegan691:
Your complaining about people complaining, if people want to have a rant, let them, it's probably because they're not getting anywhere with Motorola, so then you get someone who might think they're above these moany asses and try to bully (verbally) them into staying quiet! So why don't you butt out and let them moan as it's not hurting you really is it??? Unless it got personal, so now I'm going to say SORRY for my little moan. Don't take it personal,
[Moto X General] Kustaa:
Sorry for the ot, but this seems like a joke. I've just got an update for camera app, new icon (Idk if this could mean something) and a kind of new exposure control. But look at how pixelated that is. Just...omg it really seems like a joke lol

EDIT: (The picture is compressed so it may not be very noticeable)
[Moto X General] MortimerR:
Hm how does indoor shot look?

With my Moto X almost every indoor shot looks bad. Unless there's a lot of light.
[Moto X General] Kustaa:
Actually it's not even working for me
[Moto X General] MortimerR:
Yeah that's really odd. I just updated and it has the marker for exposure now. But it didn't do anything. Snapped a pic once with it turned up and turned down, no difference.
[Moto X General] Kustaa:
Oh lord...idk what to expect. Did you take a closer look to the pixels? It may be done with Paint lol
[Moto X General] whgp:
Personally, I will turn to the Nexus devices

No more false promises
[Moto X General] lolcopter:
Motorola is the one dropping the ball here, and this apologetic attitude only serves to validate the scumbags in charge who would rather just sell you a new device instead of supporting a "flagship"

Frankly, I've moved onto Windows Phone because I'm so sick of Android's pathetic OS update status across the board. Looking forward to trying out Windows 10 Mobile, probably before Motorola ever drops Lollipop for everyone else. Vote with your wallet
[Moto X General] sunnycheeba:
Toggle the Exposure setting off and on. That worked for me.
[Moto X General] cindylike24:
If you knew me, you would know that I do not bully people into staying quiet. I was just posting because I felt that this thread was getting way off track. I come to these forums to try and learn something new not read all of this ranting and raving about how bad Motorola is.

I get enough ranting and raving at work. Don't need it here too. I'm one of those people that will let them let it all out and then I'm usually the one feeling the stress after they're done.

I was trying to butt out (as you put it) but after a while I just had to say something. If it ruffled a few feathers, well then I'm sorry. That was not my intent at all. I'll just start reporting the posts that I find to be off topic from now on to get the mods involved. I don't need this. I've got enough on my plate here already.

Here I give my two cents worth and people don't like it. *smh*
[Moto X General] MortimerR:
You make a fair point, and it's your opinion. Everyone should be able to give their opinion. The problem is that this thread is about 5.1 coming to Moto x. The only relevant news about that is that month after month the Moto team has made a statement that it's coming. That's it. There was an actual post on Motorola's page about the all the new additions, but they removed the page a few hours after posting it.

I don't think it's right that they force consumers to buy a new device in order to get an upgrade OS. Even an Apple 4s has the newest software. Nexus devices get updates.
[Moto X General] cindylike24:
What would you ever do if Motorola gets back into making the Windows Phones again? Would you change phone operating systems again?

Motorola (like all phone companies) are in the business to try to get you buy the latest and greatest phones that they make. That's just part of doing business. I know that it's frustrating for those who want to keep their phones like those with the 2013 Moto X but there's no need to call them scumbags because of this.

I agree with you about voting with your wallet which is what I did back in February when I got my Moto X. Before that, I had a Samsung Galaxy S3 that has absolutely no chance of getting Lollipop and I couldn't unlock the bootloader without tripping Knox on the phone. I got this phone because when I switch carriers here pretty soon, I can keep this phone on the new carrier. I've already checked into this. At least with this phone, I also have a chance to get Lollipop eventually.

Another reason why I got this phone is because I got a sweet deal on this and it was the one thing I wanted to buy with my income tax refund.
[Moto X General] lolcopter:
Tbh I've soured on Motorola because of this debacle and will likely never buy another. Also did the same with Samsung, like you, going back to the original Galaxy.
[Moto X General] MortimerR:
The elephant in the room is that every non Nexus android device has this issue. Either no update ever, or really slow updates.
[Moto X General] cindylike24:
Talk to me next year about Apple 4s having the newest software. I know this from personal experience. I have an Apple iPod Touch that I purchased in 2010. I have not been able to upgrade to OS 7 or OS 8 on that device at all and some of the games that my nephews want to play on it now cannot be downloaded to it because it doesn't have OS 7 on it. Nothing too much for me to worry about since they both have Android tablets now too. I keep it around for them in case they want to watch videos on it or play some of the games that I already have on it. I don't use it much personally. I've got a tablet and smartphone that I can do everything on. The OS on my iPod Touch is 6.1.5 by the way. I do agree with you on the Nexus devices getting the updates though.

Cindy
[Moto X General] lolcopter:
Absolutely, that's why the only Android I'm keeping is my 2013 N7. The update landscape for Android phones is a complete joke
[Moto X General] MortimerR:
That's the problem. You just described it. The 4s probably will get next year iOS update (Although it will probably be the last) While most of the android phones coming out now, more than likely won't. I certainly don't think the Moto X will see the newest update next year.
[Moto X General] cindylike24:
Just a gut feeling that I have about Apple's devices here. I believe that the 5's and 6's will get updates through next year but 4's will probably get phased out this year. Got to make room for iPhone 7's.[emoji5]
[Moto X General] nevertheless:
it's obvious all htese guys don't want to be bothered with updating old phones. they want to people to move on to new phones.
[Moto X General] magnafunk:
The iPhone 4s is 3.5 years old and it still runs the latest software and more importantly, it got it the same day as the newest apple flagship. We're on a >2 year old flagship waiting for 6 month old software that we have been promised.

The only news is that Motorola are still screwing us around, so that is what is being reported in this thread.
[Moto X General] Zorge.R:
222.21.15 for xt1052
[Moto X General] muchi_13:
Im using xt1058 at&t. Is there update rolled out?
[Moto X General] mrmidnight:
The update that he posted in the pic is for the European Moto X, worldwide update may have started, then again maybe not, just sit tight!
[Moto X General] polar775:
but he already has lollipop..so probably hes probably soak tester or not stock phone
[Moto X General] Saythis:
It's the same version as the soak test.
[Moto X General] mrmidnight:
Yeah I just noticed that, thanks for the clarification. I've been just sitting here for the last few months lurking this thread because my wife have a Moto X.
[Moto X General] MadPriest:
This one is with default settings

This one is with exposure turned up a bit

Both with ****ty light

Both have nothing to do with Lollipop
[Moto X General] whgp:
share it please :o
[Moto X General] pinhead97:
Did you do anything special to receive this? I got a GB retail XT1052 and have received no such update, while using 4.4.4
[Moto X General] whgp:
see this https://forums.motorola.com/posts/77d4221775

i'm registered in MFN but not received anything ,i think only few people get soak updates . :)
[Moto X General] Saythis:
It's the same version as the soak test build right here. Soak tests are randomly given to devices as sort of a beta test phase before release so there's nothing you can really do to get it for yourself officially.
[Moto X General] whgp:
this TWRP Backup for Brazilian version not European :D

I hope Zorge.R work TWRP Backup for this version . :crying:
[Moto X General] adity:
I don't think Motorola is ever releasing lollipop
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
Technically, SOAK tests and BETA tests are two different things in MFN's eyes..

SOAK test is the final release candidate which is expected to eventually be pushed to all on that carrier/model.

TEST DRIVEs are interim beta tests which are not yet release candidates.
[Moto X General] andTab:
This is sooo ridiculous.

Remember the hype about the Moto X supposedly going to be supported like the Nexus phones, because it was part of Google.

BS!

Next week, Google will announce the next version of Android and we will still be stuck on 4.4.4.

Ridiculous!

I really hate Apple but the fact that even the 4s will supposedly get the new version of the OS (at the same time as all the other phones and tablets) really puts things into perspective. Even Microsoft has found a way to role out BETA versions for Win10 to anyone with a Lumia phone that wants to test it.

WTF?!

And nobody give me that BS about carriers holding up the process. Apple and Microsoft can do it ...

And what the F was the developer version for, if not to circumvent that BS excuse?
[Moto X General] MadPriest:
4s in not going to be updated to iOS 9
[Moto X General] IrvChynaman:
What people are forgetting is that these delays are the nature of open sourced mobile operating systems. It's difficult for OEMS to update in a timely manner especially when their funding to do so is less than adequate and the number of devices they're expected support is somewhat big. The same gripes that exist with the Motorola delays are visible with every manufacturer, and when manufacturers push out major release updates too quickly, we get a different set of complaints with regard to stability. This is just what we get with Android. In my five years using this os, it's what I've come to expect. If we always want the latest and greatest software release, we should either consider a nexus or an entirely different os.
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
And remember how Google SOLD Motorola to Lenovo.. between then and now... and how Lenovo now controls Moto, its budget, how many people are working on what, etc?

That could also possibly hamper things a bit.

Moto had apparently had started work on 5.02 for the X (based on the first Brazil XT1058 LEAKED test drive), but stopped and switched to 5.1... (probably due to bugs or security issues with 5.0x that were fixed in 5.1)...

That could slow things down a bit too.

Yes, Android 5.x was announced and made available to AOSP long ago. I get that.

Are there such new, compelling, and NECESSARY features in 5.x that make it such that "everyone" wants it like YESTERDAY? I'm perfectly fine with my 2013 X as is, with 4.4.4. it does today EVERYTHING I've wanted it to do. I'm Perfectly fine waiting, so long as we do eventually get an update.

And I wouldn't be surprised if this is the LAST update the 2013 X sees.

This is the way ANDROID IS in general. Not just Moto. Sure, Samsung pushed out 5.02, but it took a while for devices to start getting it.. and now they have to spend the time and money to do it again for 5.1.. who knows if/when Samsung will get 5.1 to their devices. At least Moto shifted gears and began putting their money/budget into 5.1 for us, rather than giving us something like 5.02 and leaving us there for another many months.

I'm sorry to say I don't expect we'll ever see Day 0 updates for ALL android phones to the latest OS.
[Moto X General] whgp:
logical words :good:
[Moto X General] MadPriest:
Apple (not sure about MSFT) doesn't allow any carrier to touch iOS to add their bloatware. So it's different.

Developer edition is for developers. It has unlocked bootloader, and is DEV edition. That's all.
[Moto X General] lolcopter:
http://fossbytes.com/microsoft-makes-fun-of-android-updates-calls-it-big-pile-of-code/

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This might be fine for the aunts, uncles, and grandparents of the world who don't even know what lollipop is but don't forget your audience here. XDA like to root, tweak, modify, and live on the cutting edge and Motorola is dropping the ball on their PAYING CONSUMERS in this regard

Running a legacy OS version might be fine for awhile, but if you wanna live in the past be my guest (edit: kinda stupid rhetoric on my part given the sheer amount of JB devices still in the wild. google is basically forcing us all to live in the past, or at least not providing much help to keep up)

At this rate we likely won't. This "confirmation" thread with the latest and greatest info is a month+ old now

If you want lollipop on your Moto X you're gonna have to do it yourself because Google and Motorola would rather just sell you a Nexus 6 or another upcoming flagship instead of supporting one from less than two short years ago. Pathetic
[Moto X General] whgp:
I plan buy nexus so i will wait for the Nexus 7 because I need fingerprint sensor :D

http://www.cnet.com/news/its-apples-fault-nexus-6-has-no-fingerprint-sensor-former-exec/

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Motorola explains why the Moto X 1st Gen hasn’t been treated to Lollipop as yet

read more

http://www.techshout.com/mobile-pho...s-moto-x-1st-gen-hasnt-received-lollipop-yet/

:o:o:o
[Moto X General] Jizzylax:
An article from February. Great thanks.
[Moto X General] drummper:
Well i think you are wrong. If the soak tes was indeed bug freee and fully functional motorola didn't have to wait to 5.1. If they have good work with 5.0 the probably use that knowledge to port to 5.1
[Moto X General] R3dbeaver:
Great info and good for Moto for working so hard for us!

...but at the end of the day, what REALLY matter is the end result. In this case, Lollipop on our phone.

No matter how much work a company does, it is completely irrelevant to customer satisfaction.

The saying "you get an A for effort!" does not apply to any business model.
[Moto X General] whgp:
Yeh Thanks Motorola for No thing :o
[Moto X General] blackhand1001:
Personally I am glad they waited. 5.0, 5.01, 5.02 were buggy messes. Kit Kat at this time is a better experience.
[Moto X General] perri.etb:
The updates were pretty quick. They were even quicker than for some nexus devices. Then the (probably) last updated for our phone delays and people starts complaining about how disappointed are for not getting the update the very first day.

I'm pretty satisfied with the Moto x and will definitely consider Motorola as my first option when I upgrade my phone.

Let's keep this thread on topic and just post info about the next update please.
[Moto X General] JulesJam:
Install Motorola Device Manager on your PC and then connect your phone to it. That will connect directly to Motorola to check for updates. And instead of the OTA, which is a patch, it is a flash of the full files.