yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto X General] mlodykaras:
Yeah but if I wanted to carry a brick in my pants I would buy one a lot cheaper! Cmon moto I know you can do it... Soon ;)
[Moto X General] galabean:
I can confirm that my French XT1052 received the 5.1 update.

Finally ! :D
[Moto X General] raddacle:
Wooh! Are you apart of the Motorola Feedback Network? As in, it's a soak test right?
[Moto X General] m4tt94:
There's no such thing as MFN for Nexuses :p
[Moto X General] raddacle:
Hilarious. Just realized he* was trying to be funny by putting Nexus 6 at the end.
[Moto X General] aledex:
Got 5.1 on the french version.

- Confirmed NO wake-up gesture. Thanks Motorola, you promised new features and you took them away.

- Same old "no silence mod" lollipop bs.

- No particular performance improvement.

- Stupid "!" icon next to the mobile network icon if you turn data off. That's stupid, it looks like you have a problem, while it's just for "no internet". Another lollipop bs.

- Mi Fit seems not to work.

- Nice animations, but not so fluid as I expected sometimes.

I've tried it for 3 hours and at the moment it is as bad as I expected, it's not completely Motorola's fault btw, it's Google who likes to mess with their OS.
[Moto X General] m4tt94:
It was not me.

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Well, lollipop was out there for quiet some time, you could've watched some video review of the interface and the features, before installing.
[Moto X General] aledex:
Yep I was aware of these problem, but I hoped Motorola would have done something about it. Not so big deal by the way, at least not as much as the loss of the wake-up gesture and the fact I'm not able anymore of opening Mi Fit app.
[Moto X General] Dadud:
1. I remember reading somewhere it wouldn't have that gesture.

2. Priority mode works.
[Moto X General] zed011:
French version is system version 222.21.15 as well?
[Moto X General] Jizzylax:
Update 6/8/2015: Select users on Retail France (212.44.26.ghost_row.Retail.en.FR) and Retail Germany (212.44.26.ghost_row.Retail.en.DE) can download and install Android 5.1.
[Moto X General] bbfoto:
Touché! It was definitely short-sighted on my part to post that question about this particular device on a Developer's Forum. :(

It's also sad to see the recent posts that seem to indicate that the 2013 Moto X actually lost a few of it's nice device-specific features with the LP "update" and is still buggy after Moto has had so much time to work on this. :( ...as I ponder why no one has been interested in buying my mint Moto X DE that's for sale. :p

Hopefully talented gentlemen like you can fix these shortcomings without too much trouble.

.
[Moto X General] thekendog:
Pardon me if this is a dumb question, but is speakerphone and Bluetooth calls fixed on this latest release? I'm on Verizon running the Brazilian soak test and those two things have been janky for me.
[Moto X General] whgp:
what about Asia ??
[Moto X General] DaRkRhiNe:
Patience is the key bro..
[Moto X General] vesoisthebest:
What about xt1053 US Tmob dev edition?
[Moto X General] coldtech:
Awww man, seems the /s tag was broken again. Without it, you can rely on people to miss sarcasm.

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That's it for me then, no Lollipop on my Moto X. Without that feature, I might as well go back to my Xperia Z3 Compact (and its buggy 5.0).
[Moto X General] sunnycheeba:
I remember reading on Motorola's website that it would have that gesture: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/105221

If this feature is really gone I will not take the L update. Do Ambient Display and Always Listening still work? or did they remove those features too.
[Moto X General] vesoisthebest:
This is your choice and nobody carés about it.Most of the people who use Moto X want Android L,even without that feature.I think the thread is full of 7 years old girls...CRY..CRY..CRY and CRY for Lollipop,and then-"I will not take the L update"..This is stupid!!!!
[Moto X General] marketXman:
If they remove the "wave to wake", the very best feature of this phone, out of very few features to begin with, then the only stupid thing is not to complain. I will also not update if that is the case. Oh, and never buying moto again...
[Moto X General] marmis85:
imgur.com/Xttbc0w

I had some problems installing the OTA: I only did mild tweaks (twrp, root, hosts file, a root file manager and I can't remember anything else) so I tried a manual unroot.

It failed 3 times for stupid reasons (forgot to delete the hosts file, forgot to unfreeze, forgot the brains off) and after every fail the OTA has to be downloaded again.... >.<

I ended up flashing both the recovery AND system stock partitions and call it a day.

The app optimization phase took A LOT and I rarely felt my moto X so overheated, but all went fine

I mourn the loss of the "wave to wake" feature, but I recall reading it was actually a bug as the Approach action should require the fancy sensors on the X2, but IMHO it's fine as long as it wakes up when tilted and grabbed from the desk or pocket.

On the other hand we have the new Moto Display, I can wake it up by shouting "Giggi, ma porca....!!!" and automatic playing on my car's BT started working again

While the settings app is in the fugly LP light tint, the app drawer is PITCH BLACK doing some justice to the led panel

Performance-wise the system feels snappy and smooth, some applications are still a bit sluggish when "warming up", but afterwards they get fine

I haven't tried speakerphone or BT calls yet (I don't use my phone as phone very much XD)

For what I could see for now (and knowing the "flaws" of LP) I'm overall satisfied, and I probably can change what I don't like with Xposed anyways

/edit

I forgot the only "problem" i found: in the new recent apps thingy, scaled text is kinda blurry

[MENTION=5816554]paveheart90[/MENTION] brucia? :D
[Moto X General] noseph:
For LP users who want wave to wake have you checked settings/Moto/Actions/Approach for Moto Display?
[Moto X General] marmis85:
Sadly the only moto action avaulable is "twist to camera" :(
[Moto X General] lolcopter:
No chop for flashlight?

More like this thread is full of Motorola apologists who don't care if they're supported or lose good features if that update ever even occurs

Less features? Hooray!

-nobody, ever
[Moto X General] Moondroid:
Some of us watch threads of this nature so we know what(/when/why) to avoid. Just sayin'. To each his own.
[Moto X General] metaljr81:
I can't awkwardly wave six times over my phone for the screen to turn on? I have to press a button now or tap the screen instead? I'm done with life now. Tell my family it was Motorola's fault
[Moto X General] Jizzylax:
LMAO. Agreed.
[Moto X General] mlodykaras:
Jeeees... Just hold your hand over the phone for couple of secs and the active display will pop up. I never used it anyway so no big drama.
[Moto X General] zed011:
Where and when did they promise that they will deliver updates before nexus devices?
[Moto X General] whgp:
Yes, it is a big disappointment :eek:
[Moto X General] superkeest:
What is so wrong with your guys phone that you so desperately need this update?
[Moto X General] aledex:
I don't understand it either. Just a bunch of spoiled brats. The funny thing is that the Moto x will receive the 5.1 update shortly after its release, while the majority of the other phones will be stuck to 5.0 (and its bugs and lack of functionalities) for a while, not to say forever.

Do you want 5.0.2 now? Unlock the bootloader and flash an effin rom, what's the problem?
[Moto X General] cindylike24:
AMEN! Samsung used to be the same way with timely updates a few years ago but now they're one of the slowest ones to come out with updates on their devices. At least with my Moto X, I can get a better signal and can do more things with this phone (root, customization options, being able to flash different ROMs onto the phone on a whim, etc.) but for the time being, I think that I'm just going to wait for the official Moto 5.1. I installed CM12.1 and it looks great but I couldn't get one of my favorite programs to install back onto my phone. It was the NASCAR Mobile app and not being able to install that with CM12.1 was a big deal breaker for me.

Remember these two things people: (1) Good things come to those who wait. (2) Patience is a virtue.

Cindy
[Moto X General] stealtheye:
Well put! Agreed. I've been running CM12.1 since early this morning. Still getting standard battery but that's due to bad signal and a buggy Drony where i study so google play services go crazy and my antennas go crazy trying to get back signal. But next week ill have a chance to test in a normal "high signal" environment.

Fortuantely i havent any app installing issues. As I mentioned Drony is buggy in that its not turning on and off automatically with a specific wifi connection but other than that and a few little bluetooth audio "skips" (think it may have to do with ambient display), all seems quite lekker!
[Moto X General] cindylike24:
After messing with 4.4.4 stock, I think I may just go with a 3rd party launcher to get the setup that works best for me and wait for 5.1 to come out. Either that or go with CM12 and not take the 12.1 update. 12.1 doesn't seem like it's stable enough for me to use as a daily driver. Just my opinion.
[Moto X General] stealtheye:
Fair enough. Just keep an eye on the CM12 thread. For me so far its been as stable as CM12. But yeah its up to you.
[Moto X General] JulesJam:
Yeah, you don't want anything below 5.1.

The thing I am hoping for is HD Voice capabilities in 5.1. We will see if Verizon will allow it for the MX2013.
[Moto X General] BPinard:
Motorola promised speedy updates. We're not a bunch of spoiled brats. Very many of us purchased this phone because of the stock-ish experience and the promise of fast updates. If they (Motorola) couldn't deliver on this, they shouldn't have advertised/promised. It's that simple.

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The hardware doesn't support HD voice. Only the hardware in the second gen (I believe) and also the Nexus 6 (as far as Motorola phones go.)
[Moto X General] JulesJam:
Are sure about that? I was under the impression that it was a software thing and then of course a network thing that is why you have to enable the feature on your line.

Where did you read that it is a hardware thing?
[Moto X General] BPinard:
I recall Punit Soni being asked it on one of his ever-popular G+ posts, many months ago.
[Moto X General] imnuts:
So Motorola has a crystal ball knowing that Qualcomm would abandon the chipset and Google would make other large changes in Lollipop? You think rewriting drivers and other code is easy and fast? You can't have a quality update quickly going from KitKat to Lollipop, and to think otherwise is naive.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] BPinard:
Please, don't put words in my mouth. If Motorola was unsure about any of what you mentioned, they shouldn't have made a guarantee. Under-promise and over-deliver.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Surprising that Qualcomm is the one discontinuing support. I would have expected the delay to be TI related
[Moto X General] domenci:
Guaranteed updates meow?

I have seen this spewed here and elesewhere, yet I have never seen an ad for the Moto X that said anything about updates. I'm sure I've just missed them, so I'd love to see one, much more one that guarantees it. :good: What is your status on getting a refund because the guarantee was not fulfilled?
[Moto X General] JulesJam:
There was no guarantee. That's ridiculous.
[Moto X General] Shujath:
Good to know that
[Moto X General] BPinard:
It used to be on the Moto X product page... any mention of updates was scrubbed off of it after Google sold the company.

I wonder how, for something so "untrue" so many people recall reading about the promise of fast updates?

Surely it's no fabrication.
[Moto X General] JulesJam:
LOL! No, there was never a guarantee.
[Moto X General] marmis85:
[MENTION=2785960]lolcopter[/MENTION] nope, that's a new feature in 5.1.1, we got the 5.1 LPA23.12-15 build... hopefully we will see more updates once the bigass one is done :(
[Moto X General] aledex:
Good news everyone!

For those who were wondering, "no notification mod" actually works as the good old silent mode. In other words, it's still possibile to receive notifications while the phone is completely silent :D Hurray, what a world to live in! :cyclops:

So yes, we (at least) didn't lost this feature (which Google inexplicably took away, for reason evidently known only to some programmer who must have thought it was a fantastic idea).
[Moto X General] Kustaa:
I found this...

https://cloud.mail.ru/public/2xVHD7cGfVmL/MOTO-X-UNL-ONLY-5.1-222.21.15-BR.zip

I've no idea about the source of that, I've downloaded and it seems a "complete" image of the 5.1 222.21.15 Brazil firmware to be flashed by RSD or fastboot, I don't know. If someone wants to take a look, there you have.

I'm not responsible for what you can do with that, and I've not tried that neither.
[Moto X General] marmis85:
I think you are referring to the "Priority Mode" right? Because in "No Notifications Mode" you are gonna oversleep if you use your phone as an alarm clock XD

Once you get the hang of it, I think it's actually more stupid the lack of a "no vibration" step in the volume slider xD
[Moto X General] stealtheye:
Well like a lot of non English users I took is at that and not sarcasm. But anyway. A winking smily would have done the trick though. Not my fault...
[Moto X General] paveheart90:
non sai quanto :crying:
[Moto X General] aledex:
No I'm referring to the "no notification" mode, yes the alarm clock doesn't work. And yep, this "new feature" of Lollipop is pretty stupid, no doubt about it!
[Moto X General] jay_em:
Is 'Ambient Display' available on 5.1 then?
[Moto X General] Kustaa:
OP updated

Some news from David Schuster.
[Moto X General] MadPriest:
Hopefully these are good news

Cause the definition of "soon" is "too far away" for Moto....
[Moto X General] Kustaa:
Well, at least he didn't use the word 'soon', instead he said "next week" haha.

I don't really understand the part of the issue adressed and the full soaking for Brazil, it means there will be another build number?
[Moto X General] MadPriest:
Looks like yes, unless they release incremental update
[Moto X General] SUArchangel:
So, in other words, we should still expect the XT1060 rollout sometime around the 12th of Never?
[Moto X General] ChrisAG:
I think you mean the 12th of Nevember.
[Moto X General] a1exus:
Deleted
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
This appears to be "home made" based on the individual parts inside, and the edited XML.

Not sure exactly what/where each part is from... i.e. the GPT.BIN and *.MBN files have OLD date dates, only the SYSTEM.IMG has a "current" file date, and the XML (which was edited, so yeah, more current date).

I wouldn't trust it.
[Moto X General] Arak-Nafein:
What is the "wave to wake" that everybody is complaining about being removed? My phone has never done that.

Are you referring to the proximity sensor that detects taking the phone out of your pocket? If you cover the screen for a second and then remove your hand it'll wake up. That's not quite "wave to wake", but that's the closest thing my phone has ever had to "wave to wake".

Can anyone show me where this was advertised as a feature? I only remember it being advertised for detecting when removed from the pocket. I'm pretty sure I would have been using this since the beginning if it was a thing. I always found it easier just to tap the surface the phone is sitting on. The vibrations wake the phone up. Faster & easier than waving.
[Moto X General] Kustaa:
Well, you just have to...wave...the hand...over the moto, and that's pretty much all. It works, and it may be easier than tilting the device or hitting the table lol

Edit: actually make sure to wave over the proximity sensor. But you don't need to hold the hand there, just wave over quickly.
[Moto X General] Kustaa:
Thanks for the time and the clarification!
[Moto X General] Arak-Nafein:
What version does this work on? I'm on 4.4 and it does not do this.

Also, hitting the table is easier, because I don't have to be in arm's length to activate the screen.
[Moto X General] Kustaa:
4.4.4
[Moto X General] Kustaa:
But it's noisy [emoji14]
[Moto X General] Arak-Nafein:
Then that would lead me to believe it is a bug. It didn't do it in 4.2, and it doesn't do it on 4.4. So it was something introduced in 4.4.4. I'm looking at the release notes for 4.4.4 and it doesn't mention that feature anywhere.

It's not a feature. It wasn't intended to work that way, it was intended to detect when the phone is flipped over or removed from a pocket(I definitely remember seeing this in reviews/advertisement for the pocket detection, but never for a "wave to wake" feature). I'm guessing they upped the sensitivity of the prox sensor and it was an unintended side effect.

I have to cover the prox sensor for a good 4-5 seconds and remove it before the screen turns on.
[Moto X General] lolcopter:
pg 21

https://motorola-global-portal.cust...direct/1/filename/Xfon_UG_KK_68017630001b.pdf

https://youtu.be/XrETTxC7IVE?t=3m3s (not official obv, just an example of the feature in question. nearly 3 month old video mentioning the lollipop update heh)
[Moto X General] Arak-Nafein:
The hand wave gesture mentioned in the manual in your first link is for Talkback. That has nothing to do with the wave gesture people are talking about. (For active display)

Notice in that youtube review in your second link he has 4.4.4. The wave to wake thing was introduced in 4.4.4, but not as a feature promoted by Motorola.

Here's a few reviews from before 4.4.4. https://youtu.be/e0zafiziPIc?t=6m24s

https://youtu.be/__8AXub6R0k?t=2m40s "Or even when you walk up to it, in some cases" what does that even mean?

https://youtu.be/_0yIMftPsoA?t=4m22s

https://youtu.be/FQGAdJ2ueqA?t=5m37s

https://youtu.be/3ZX8graseUQ?t=3m57s

https://youtu.be/5Ar3zM9Qohk?t=2m56s

https://youtu.be/ij2TGQXJ5kM?t=2m12s

https://youtu.be/29vmKY0NrSw?t=2m18s

https://youtu.be/3TMycL9mzpg?t=39s

All these say the same thing. Flipping or take it out of your pocket. No mention of waving.

I looked into active display pretty thoroughly before buying my Moto X. If they had advertised the wave thing, I would have seen it. I remember them pushing the pocket thing pretty hard, tho. Their idea was to have the phone showing notifications whenever you "pick it up" this was before all the knocking, waving, and all the other silly stuff you can do to turn a phone on nowadays. I never upgraded past 4.4, so I never knew "waving to wake" was a thing on the Moto X. I checked the release notes for 4.4.4 and it makes no mention of such a thing. My guess is it was unintentional.

Here's a reddit thread where a bunch of people can't get wave to wake to work. http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/22lrrk/wave_in_front_of_the_phone_to_show/ Pre 4.4.4, of course.

Nobody cared about waving to wake until the 2nd Gen Moto X came out with it. I believe it uses the IR sensors for that, not a prox sensor. (Please correct me if I'm wrong)
[Moto X General] andTab:
Why would Mi Fit not work??
[Moto X General] aledex:
It has some problems with Lollipop (as stated in some reviews in the play store). However it took me some time (turning Bluetooth on and off, closing the app, rebooting) but it worked.

Inviato dal mio XT1052 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Moto X General] Dilly babu:
Storage space is running out

Hi Guys!

I installed CyanogenMod 12.1 for MOTO X,after installation completed i got the below error "STORAGE SPACE IS RUNNING OUT", but my internal storage is empty.

Kindly help me out for this issue.

Thanks :
[Moto X General] aloowishus:
I don't know about you guys.. I've flashed the Brazilian 5.1 twrp backup, nexus experience, mokee, cm12.1, paranoid android, aicp, dirty unicorns (you get the gist) and nothing compares to the performance and battery life of 4.4.4 stock. So far, the only thing that has impressed me with all these 5.1 Roms is the UI. Fancy, but L is clearly a stepping stone to M. The memory leak and sub-standard battery life are just not worth it.

The moto x is a device from 2013. In this day and age, that is OLD. If we get M, probably as a custom rom, even with the best Dev efforts (that don't use the x8 chip) we won't get what we really want from this phone.

Rant over.
[Moto X General] k3nny2k:
Had such ptoblem on RAZR M, try wipe dalvik cache and cache.

But how does CM 12 question happened to appear in Official Lollipop thread?
[Moto X General] Dilly babu:
I cleared wipe dalvik ,cache and even tried reflashing the ROM but still this problem appears
[Moto X General] fire6water:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2112626

Common cm issue. Happy reading.
[Moto X General] metaljr81:
Because people don't read.

Still, it's better than even more complaints about the loss of a feature that never was really a feature.
[Moto X General] Moondroid:
I'll second that, just for grins. I have Talkback disabled on my Droid Maxx (4.4.4) and Active Display works just fine.

If the Active Display feature has not been disabled, it will be specifically named and listed in Settings. It's a very straightforward and visible option, IF one has not disabled it in Settings > Apps (as I did on my Moto X).

So, it's June 10th. Any word on 5.1? Rumor has it the Turbo will start getting 5.1 today, but no reports of any actual pushes yet.
[Moto X General] lolcopter:
nm
[Moto X General] cedarknoll:
For people not getting the wave to wake thing to work, make sure vibrate on touch is enabled.
[Moto X General] lolcopter:
I thought it had to be disabled?
[Moto X General] cedarknoll:
Oh hmmm maybe your right. It wasn't working for me earlier with it disabled. But now its working with it either enabled or disabled. Maybe I just wasn't waving right its a kinda awkward thing to do imho
[Moto X General] Moondroid:
If you're talking about Active Display (clock and maybe other things fading in and out when the phone is asleep), it definitely works with Vibrate on touch unticked (off).
[Moto X General] thomas_b:
Anyone got a clue what a Motorola week's equivalent is on this planet...?

Just wondering and the fact that Mr. Schuster looks a lot like Yannis Varoufakis does not help.

Anyway, lets keep fingers crossed....
[Moto X General] Kustaa:
I agree with you on the battery life side, and the lack of the x8 drivers on custom roms, but still, I don't feel as the X performs bad on Lollipop. The animations and all that are slower by itself.

Besides, 2 years is a number, and you can say nowdays that's old, but 2 gb of ram is still being great for me, and the 2x1,7 hasn't let me down yet. The phone is hyper responsive, no lags, no redrawing apps, so I wouldn't say the x is "old", like the Galaxy nexus was after 2 years for example. The GPU is not bad at all also.

My friend has the Moto G 2014 and side to side with the X, both on Lollipop, the X runs waaay better. So I get your point, but let me tell you, the phone still has its potential.
[Moto X General] gcbxda:
my battery life with 4x is weird. it lasts three generations with the screen off. i don't even bother charging overnight if it's already full. and i do not disable wifi on sleep.

but as soon as the screen is on or I'm on a call, the battery graph deep dives as fast as Motorola drop incomplete products on the market. it's crazy.
[Moto X General] andTab:
Wave to turn on the Active Display definitely works on 4.4.4 (T-Mobile Moto X)

I would hope that battery life on L would be the same (or better) than 4.4.4 with the official stock ROM, since they support the 8X chip.

If not, they should just open the drivers for that to the open source community. F Moto for not doing that to begin with!!!!
[Moto X General] 6E 65 76 69 6E:
'Wave to turn on active display' is ridiculous still for the matter of record, I'll tell it works on my Moto X too. 4.4.4, Verizon
[Moto X General] Jizzylax:
A week = when it's done.