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[Nexus 6  General] Wxahmed:
Quick question

First off, thank you to everyone on this thread. Because of you guys I know I will be able to use the Nexus 6 on Verizon.

I just have a quick concern. When I was talking with Verizon, the tech said that things such as internet wouldn't work, like LTE or other mobile data. Is this true for you guys? I have read the whole thread and didn't see anything about this. Also, I will be getting my nexus next week. How should I activate it? I have a nano sim from my HTC M8 that is not activated. Please let me know what I should do? I am very inexperienced in these sort of things.

Thanks again guys!

Nexus FTW
[Nexus 6  General] patmw123:
I have had a fully functioning, Motorola purchased Nexus 6 on Verizon since November. Verizon reps are often vastly uninformed and spew information with confidence that is completely false.

You will not have an issue with LTE or "the internet".

Activate your nano sim on your M8 and just put it into your Nexus 6 when you get it. Enjoy your new phone.
[Nexus 6  General] Wxahmed:
Thank you so much!

This saves me $150!
[Nexus 6  General] lukesdiesel:
My Nexus 6 works perfect on Verizon and it's a Sprint N6.
[Nexus 6  General] TheLonePoster:
Just to follow up from my saga with this.

After seeing the Nexus 6 showing differently on Verizon's site, I went over to a store a few weeks ago and they apparently applied the discount. Still waiting to see the next bill cycle to see if everything is applied correctly, however. Oh and if it'll stick through the next month of course as well.

It took until today, but I received a second letter from Verizon that they're now properly activating non-verizon Nexus 6's. It's funny because the letter referenced the FCC complaint I made and the first letter they sent was all about how they couldn't do it and that was that. It was like they were saying "oooh that!? yeah, we've done some... things... and it work now! BFF's?"
[Nexus 6  General] etc6849:
OK, I have a paranoid question. When I researched this months ago, it appeared the regular unlocked XT1103 would result in the loss of my $25/line discount on the 10GB Verizon shared/family plan.

Is this still the case if I buy the XT1103 phone from bestbuy and take it to a Verizon corporate store for a free Verizon nano sim? Is this all that is necessary now? I'd be coming from a Moto X Verizon Developer Edition (original model) I had purchased directly from Motorola. It seems one reviewer on amazon says to disable wifi and ensure LTE is selected instead of global when I try/activate the new nano sim in the VZW store.

This looks like an awesome phone for $499 - minus 10% moving coupon (from USPS post office moving packet) - minus some reward certificates that are going to expire.

Link to non-Verizon phone I'm planning to purchase:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/motorola-nexus-6-4g-with-32gb-memory-cell-phone-unlocked-midnight-blue/3966012.p?id=1219610985110&skuId=3966012

Thanks in advance!
[Nexus 6  General] mademan420:
Doesnt the Moto X Verizon Developer Edition already use a nano sim? http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x-5601.php If so just pop it in the N6 and you are good.
[Nexus 6  General] billycar11:
no longer true here is the letter proving it

yes so they can just swap it in
[Nexus 6  General] etc6849:
Can I swap it myself using the my Verizon account website (like normal) or is there something special Verizon needs to do on their end?
[Nexus 6  General] billycar11:
you wont even need to do anything on the website you can just take the sim card out of your moto x put it you nexus 6 and done, you only need the website if you have a new simcard thats not activated.
[Nexus 6  General] etc6849:
No problem at all. My account still shows the $25 discount with the Nexus 6 too.
[Nexus 6  General] etc6849:
Thanks again Billy. I found one issue that I'm hoping you guys have worked out. My phone doesn't keep LTE on when I place a call. I've enabled Advanced Calling 1.0 (as a feature under free services on the my verizon website) and updated to Android 5.1.

While, I can get the image depicted below on my non-VZW Nexus 6 called "enhanced 4G LTE mode" after following the directions linked below, it doesn't seem to let me have data + phone call at the same time :( :

http://www.droid-life.com/2015/03/12/tip-simultaneous-voice-and-data-now-works-on-nexus-6-with-verizon/

EDIT: Ok, when I try a call after following the directions, I see "server error, try again later" within the dialer where calling would normally be displayed. After that, the "enhanced 4G LTE mode" disappears as an option?!?
[Nexus 6  General] adrynalyne:
What rom are you running?
[Nexus 6  General] etc6849:
Stock OTA. It went from 5.0 to 5.0.1 to 5.1.
[Nexus 6  General] adrynalyne:
What is the version though?

In the about screen?
[Nexus 6  General] etc6849:
Andy thanks for your help. I found out what I did wrong. I should have done the phone setting first, THEN enabled VOLTE/Advanced Calling 1.0 under my verizon account. Works now :)

The second post in this thread is what helped me: http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/general/verizon-volte-problem-solution-t3052877/post59399341

To answer your question, I was pushed the following update: Android version "5.1" with kernel "3.10.40-geec2459." I think there's a newer version (5.1.1.), but Verizon hasn't pushed it to my phone.
[Nexus 6  General] imnuts:
I believe he's looking for the build number, very last thing on the first screen under settings > about phone

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] BackInA88:
Blocking numbers?

OK so now Verizon knows I have a Nexus 6.

Listed as "Nexus 6 Non VZW".

Never had a problem before when they just had me listed as "Non Verizon Device".

Now when I block a number for all phones on my account it won't block it on my number.

"Changes were unsuccessful for these cell phone numbers: xxx-xxx-xxxx"

Anyone else notice this?

Steve
[Nexus 6  General] casualPhoenix:
Does this mean that:

The Verizon software is now pushed to your Nexus 6 (even if you got it from the Play Store)?

Your updates are now tied to Verizon instead of Google?
[Nexus 6  General] andrewcaudle:
Nothing changed on my phone.
[Nexus 6  General] casualPhoenix:
Just to double-check, you're still receiving updates from Google? You're not tied to Verizon's timeline now?
[Nexus 6  General] andrewcaudle:
My bootloader was unlocked and I am rooted. The only way I get updates is by flashing them myself.
[Nexus 6  General] casualPhoenix:
Ah, gotcha. Trying to figure out if Verizon is controlling any aspect of an unlocked Nexus 6 brought onto Verizon before I make a decision. So far I haven't heard anything specifically about that.
[Nexus 6  General] GTvert90:
I would guess updates OTAs would be controlled by the vzw sim
[Nexus 6  General] TonikJDK:
I have a Moto purchased 6 on VZ. They only control what you want them to. I have never gotten an ota from them, nor none of their software unless I took it from google play store. Unlock it and root it and it wont update anything.
[Nexus 6  General] casualPhoenix:
But as GTvert90 pointed out (and as a Verizon rep looking up documentation on the Nexus 6 told me), aren't OTA updates controlled via SIM? I'm not doubting you, I'm just wanted to triple-check. Technically the update should still show up the same way on your phone it'd just be a different schedule from when Google releases the updates to Nexus devices, right? Are you seeing something different, or the same schedule as Google?
[Nexus 6  General] TonikJDK:
I have never seen an ota notification, and for grins I have tried hard to get one. Pulling the sim and hit it via wifi should pull from google. It never did. On vz sim it should have pulled from vz, it never did. My experience in past phones was it pulled by imei, not sim. I don't think VZ has our imei's in their target list.

Nothing a VZ rep tells you means much of anything.
[Nexus 6  General] casualPhoenix:
So you're not getting updates at all? Or did you get your Nexus 6 after 5.1.1 came out?

I definitely agree that you can't listen to what a rep tells you, but in this case I got the one rep who actually looked up Verizon documentation instead of just spouting something they thought of. :)
[Nexus 6  General] TonikJDK:
Correct, never been offered an update. Had mine since November. I just flash my own. Actually just flashed 5.1.1 a few days ago, so they had plenty of time to offer it.

We are still step children somewhat. I am fine with that.
[Nexus 6  General] casualPhoenix:
Man, so they aren't pushing anything to you. That sucks.
[Nexus 6  General] HankStorm:
I've gotten all my updates via OTA. Never unlocked bootloader or rooted. Bought my phone from Moto directly and it's been on VZW ever since. I got the 5.1 update when everyone else with VZW sim got their's so assume it's coming from Verizon or at least the timing of the release is controlled by them. Still waiting for 5.1.1.
[Nexus 6  General] stillthisguy:
Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 6, Nexus 7, Nexus 9, and Nexus 10 devices receive the latest version of Android directly from Google. Once an update is available, it can take up to two weeks for it to reach your device. Based on your carrier, it may take longer than two weeks after release to get an update. So you will get your OTA when your carrier says so, no matter where the device came from. Unless you flash from another source....
[Nexus 6  General] casualPhoenix:
Thanks for the info. I had heard from others (and a Verizon rep) that a non-Verizon Nexus 6 would still have to have updates allowed by Verizon due to their recognition of the IMEI or SIM, and that jives with what you're saying. However, that still sucks that you and TonikJDK haven't received 5.1.1 yet and it's been officially out for 2 months.
[Nexus 6  General] TonikJDK:
That is the way VZ rolls, they are very late with updates most of the time with most phones. That's why I bought a Nexus. I get the updates when I want, and none of their bloat but still get their network. Best of both worlds.
[Nexus 6  General] casualPhoenix:
True true! :)

That's actually part of what I'm trying to figure out - I'm seriously considering Project Fi so I'm trying to do allllll my homework with my different options (I'm currently on Verizon).
[Nexus 6  General] GTvert90:
I'm pretty sure non vzw N6s will get the vzw Ota if they are on the update path. I believe you need to be on 5.0.1 to get the vzw 5.1 update
[Nexus 6  General] TonikJDK:
Word on the internet is VZ is rolling 5.1.1 now.
[Nexus 6  General] DarthSudo:
So, I took my Moto X1 for a swim the other day... not a good idea. I may limp it along for a few months (it still mostly works) until the X3 comes out, or I may purchase a used N6. Are there any specific carrier's N6's I should avoid if I will be activating it on Verizon? Maybe a better question is: Are there any carriers' N6s that Verizon is not white listing?
[Nexus 6  General] mademan420:
AT&T since they are carrier locked by default but can be unlocked once the device has been paid off. Any will work as long as its not sim carrier locked. Got mine direct from moto
[Nexus 6  General] DarthSudo:
Good to hear. Thanks! Now time to make a decision...
[Nexus 6  General] donguason:
For what its worth, My Nexus 6, Purchased from Motorola unlocked on a Verizon Sim got 5.1.1 Middle of last night. I was hafl asleep when I did the update and the only issue so far is my snapchats dont all post but that could be the Snapchat app. So far so good. I think Verizon and Google are pushing the update out.

I was on the D version of 5.0.0.
[Nexus 6  General] scooterman:
Verizon is the worst provider I've ever used. Their customer service is terrible, they never do for you what they say they will on the phone. I have had to call them back 4 times for the same issue that they say they will take care of every time. On the 4th call some how magically gets done and only takes 10 min. They give you the run around hoping you will just pay to get it over with instead of calling back multiple times for you credit. Their network is also not very good. The 4G coverage map is a complete lie, maybe that's the coverage on some type of testing device with a big antenna but not with a phone. Also with 4G now they have basically shut down data on 3g and 1x, not like it even worked anyway. Anyway screw them.
[Nexus 6  General] TheLonePoster:
Same thing happened with me. I have a Nexus 6 purchased form Motorola directly and received that 5.1.1 update in the middle of when this thread was really going. I'm assuming it's the one marked "for sprint only" since I didn't have the Verizon 5.1 build installed? Not too long after I installed the Andriod M preview.

After playing around with Android M Preview 1, I dropped back to Verizon's 'E' build of 5.1. Some time later, I received the letter from Verizon that their system suddenly now accepts with my non-verizon Nexus 6 (which is funny because not too long prior they sent me the letter that says it's impossible to use my phone on their network) and after a number of weeks past, I received the OTA to take it to 5.1.1.

So moral of the story, yay us (people who bought the phone unlocked)?
[Nexus 6  General] tu3218:
Wow this is all new too me. I'm very very close to trading my note 4 for an unlocked version of the nexus 6(possibly today). Without reading every post here, I should be okay using this on the Verizon network correct? I didn't realize Verizon was having issues with the unlocked version. Or is it jsut issues with updates.
[Nexus 6  General] TonikJDK:
There were problems with some VZ specific features and discounts. That is all cleared up now. Go for it if it is the phone you want.
[Nexus 6  General] Whyldchld:
Yikes! The link to that non-verizon phone is now priced at $649 how greedy can Best Buy get?
[Nexus 6  General] Doctor Dedroid:
As I am old and slow, does this mean I can get an unlocked nexus 6, bring it to the verizon store and they will activate the damn thing for me without giving me a bunch of nonsense? (or at least too much nonsense) Do they still play this "not an authorized verizon device" when pulling up the specs for your phone on their website? I see that best buy sells an unlocked nexus 6 but it says gsm only.... I thought there was only one nexus 6 on the market and it worked across all carriers....
[Nexus 6  General] billycar11:
should be no problem.
[Nexus 6  General] TonikJDK:
nevermind....I was way wrong
[Nexus 6  General] Doctor Dedroid:
So I went to a number of verizon corp stores in the northeast here... man every time I asked about the N6 I got a different answer... one guy said: He's tried it several times and it's never worked for him (I described the procedure of activating a known vzw phone and sim and swapping the sim to the n6 and he *seemed* to understand). Another store rep explained to me (when I described the procedure) said: "we can't just use our floor phones for that and we don't have any phones in the store you could do that with". A third store had a fellow who seemed more flexible but he said that he could try it but wouldn't guarantee itd work. IOW a different story every time you asked... just what I've come to expect from VZW.

I'd rather get my N6 from best buy for $100 less than the sob's at VZW are charging. I have four lines and they are all off contract... I could go in with an ultimatum I guess: activate this phone or I'm going across the street to the ATT store (literally across the street!).

You'd think by now with the C-block rules and all, this wouldn't be an issue.

It seems that the unlocked N6 (regardless of purchase point) should work on the VZ network. It'd be good if the thing just activated with the sim card etc in the device without having to play swapping games... Can anyone tell me if 1) sim-swapping is still needed to get the n6 going on vzw and 2) if it matters as far as getting it from Google Play, Motorola, or Best Buy matter as far as this issue is concerned?
[Nexus 6  General] lraed74:
I bought an AT&T N6....unlocked the SIM and works perfectly on Verizon. I came from a G2 so I needed a nano sim card. I went to a Verizon (corp store) before I even had the phone and asked for a nano sim. I told them it was for a N6 but never mentioned the AT&T part...they gave me the sim and I was out the door. When I got the N6, I put in the sim and and booted up...unlocked sim....it showed the Verizon network but had to go online and register the device/new sim card. After doing the registration through their website...no issue at all and was up and running as normal.

Hope this helps.
[Nexus 6  General] mangalo2004:
Just go into Verizon with the new phone. There should be no issues activating the sim. I did it last Saturday with a Motorola bought Nexus 6 and was out of the store in 15 minutes with a new activated sim.
[Nexus 6  General] stevexyz0:
Yeah they should have fixed everything now. Even sent letters to those of us who filed FCC complaints saying it should work now.
[Nexus 6  General] DarthSudo:
What he said ^^^. Make sure it is an actual Verizon store, not an "Authorized Retailer". The retailers only get money if they sell you something, so expect a lot of FUD when you are trying to bring your own device.

Or you could call customer care and ask them to send you a nano sim for your N6. Then take care of activation yourself on My Verizon when it arrives. It's called "self activation". If it doesn't work through the web page, just call customer care back and they should be able to get it activated.
[Nexus 6  General] Doctor Dedroid:
I'm looking at best buy right now... they have a couple of unlocked N6s and I want to be sure because I'm so unsure....

They have one that's 32 GB (model XT1103 ) and a 64 GB one (model 00639NAGPE). Is there any issue with either of this on VZW? I note the VZW version is MOTXT1103... Frankly I have a 32 GB GNex and I've not even used 10GB of that.... so I don't NEED 64 GB. What I need is the phone most likely to work on stoopid VZW. (yeah stoopid me too). I have heard somewhere (might even have been in this thread) that the international N6 is problematic for vzw so ....
[Nexus 6  General] stevexyz0:
There are only two models: XT1103 (north America) and XT1100 (elsewhere). The number you gave for the 64GB is something other than a model number; I assume that is XT1103 as well. Either one should work ok on Verizon as they seem to have fixed their issues and will activate all nexus 6 now.

Just make sure you're getting XT1103 the north American version. It seems pretty unlikely best buy would stock anything else. But some people have reported amazon sellers were sending XT1100 to North American buyers.
[Nexus 6  General] Doctor Dedroid:
Perfect! Thx!
[Nexus 6  General] TiltedAz:
Ditto with Swappa sellers.
[Nexus 6  General] co.ag.2005:
Also, since I'm paying the $15 per line (with the $25 BYOD discount), will that still apply if I just stick my active Verizon sim card in the unlocked, Play Store 1103 N6? I just don't want them to start charging me the $40 per line. TIA
[Nexus 6  General] stevexyz0:
You should still get the discount. For example I have a moto purchased N6 and I get the discount. Verizon wasn't giving the discounts previously but fixed that back in April or May.
[Nexus 6  General] co.ag.2005:
Thanks! And from what I've read, Advanced Calling shows up if you have at least the 5.1.1. Update? Voice/Data at same time is important
[Nexus 6  General] ssgtob1:
Take for instance if I get a message that I am going to go over my data allowance, I cant change the data plan because they say I am not using a vzw device. They are breaking FCC CFR law!
[Nexus 6  General] clairez:
Do your homework

There are two types of Verizon customers:

1. Have been screwed

2. Will be screwed

You are a type 2.

Do yourself a favor and read this article:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...te-one-that-wasnt-purchased-from-the-carrier/
[Nexus 6  General] skier8735:
I had no problem adding HD voice (volte) to my line with my google play nexus 6.
[Nexus 6  General] DoctorB0NG:
I had a Nexus 6 originally purchased from a US Cellular store and tried to get it activated at Verizon. The Verizon employee told me that the phone "had a different VPN" and wouldn't be able to activated.

"It needs the Verizon APN, trust me I've been doing this for years"

-Verizon Employee
[Nexus 6  General] pnwsr6:
FYI

I was able to make changes from the my Verizon app, but not from the website. Don't know what the difference is, but if the app can do it the website should be able to also, in my opinion. I think its a sign they are making it difficult on purpose. I also seem to remember having an unrecongnized device (razr maxx) on there network. I was able to make changes at that time without any problem. Not sure how to prove it now though.
[Nexus 6  General] GMoGoody:
I went month to month in September. Bought the N6 in November. In December I lost my discount. I called and they applied it. I tried again in Jan and Feb, was told that because I have a Non-VZW device the discount can no longer be applied. I have a GPS 64GB N6

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] 6-speed:
I couldn't change my data or change features from the app or online with my sim in my GP N6 either. I Even talked to a rep and he couldn't do it because of a "non-vzw" device. I went home, popped my sim in my 13' Moto X and changed my data plan immediately. But I was able to add VOLTE with my sim in my N6 though.

EDIT: changing my data was about 2 months ago. I changed my VOLTE just after VZW released the N6
[Nexus 6  General] Konfuzion:
I am do pissed off right now. I just switched to Verizon back in November. Before I made the switch I went to a Verizon store and spoke with a rep, I told them I was getting an unlocked nexus 6, at which time I was told I would only pay $15 per month for bringing my own phone. Just checked my account and I'm paying $40 plus my employee discount isn't being applied.
[Nexus 6  General] MedicStuder:
T-Mobile pays off your ETF and device.
[Nexus 6  General] ssgtob1:
I actually just ordered service with them! Got a galaxy s6 for the wife and am keeping my phone. Saving $50 a month and we get unlimited data!
[Nexus 6  General] dirtyjersey856:
Yup. I had T-Mobile.. Loved them..unlocked bootloader, unlimited data..way faster LTE than Verizon... No b.s. Moved to the tundra of MN and was forced(kicking and screaming) to get Verizon... Hate it! Nothing but problems ever since. They wouldn't give me my "bring your own" discount on my Note 4 DE, they wouldn't give me a nano for my Nexus, they act like they know what they're talking about when in reality we here members of XDA know a hell of a lot more than them. But back on subject.. Nope can't change a thing now that I'm using a Moto bought Nexus..bastards!!!!
[Nexus 6  General] ssgtob1:
Yeah, now I just have to hope that tmobile works in my house and at work, cant be any worse than verizon because those were the only two places it didnt work well.
[Nexus 6  General] dirtyjersey856:
T-Mobile will give you one of their WiFi /cell things to boost signal in your house. Ask them and you shall receive... Unlike Verizon.
[Nexus 6  General] the_rooter:
Also wifi calling will be coming soon that is a plus