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[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
Thanks, what do you exactly mean with right off the bat?

Thanks for your support!

Throw to trash can be done very easy but we think its better for user experience if he has to move the Dashdow directly into trash to prevent a deletition that the user don wanted, so kind of secure.

On our devices the popup close on outside click, so every click outside of the popup (also bubble is outside) and opens if the bubble is clicked. Think this is working fine or?

Notification count will have improvements on next update!

We did not have a issue for close popup on long text writing. What device do you have?

Scroll will not animate anymore on next update for long conversations. Only display the bottom fast.

Next update includes:

- New engine (lifecylce, memory saving, animations)

- New inputType (autocorrect, Capitalization, Emoji)

- Notification count improvements (Remove on popup close)

- Delivery report! Status of message sending.

- Timeformat, now time is displayed in default system setting.

We made the final fixes now and hopefully tomorrow we can release in playstore.

Currently we have no crashing with new engine and hopefully this will be so in future!

If you have other important thinks that we need to update quickly please comment!

Best greetings

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] ahrion:
I meant that the first thing I noticed when I first used it is the "throw" animation is considerable slow.

Also I'd like the comment on the deleting with throw. I think you should give us an option to enable or disable.

I really hope the next play update gives the pro (+?) Users some love ?
[Android Apps and Games] dylanchapman:
I think throw to delete should at least be an option. I've never once accidentally done it with Facebook Messenger.

Yes, it's fine that the popup closes when clicking outside. But the popup should be closed at the end of the touch, not the beginning. So, in case the click is on the bubble and longer than a fraction of a second, the popup doesn't instantly re-open. Currently, if you tap and hold a bubble when the popup is open, the popup will close then immediately re-open. Hopefully that makes sense.

I'm on the HTC One (M7). Have had issues on both Cyanogenmod 12 and 12.1. The closing isn't specific to long texts. Sometimes it will close when I'm not even using it (the bubble will just randomly disappear as I'm using my device as normal). It's most inconvenient when writing long texts was my point, though.

Thanks for considering user input and being so quick to update stuff! The upcoming update sounds great.
[Android Apps and Games] ahrion:
The bubble closing automatically is actually the android system closing it.
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
Its right that the popup closes if the touch is on bubble but this should be the fact. We included a scaling for touch feedback and this triggers at 7 px movement the move function that finally moves bubble opens Dashdow etc. This is all correct on our side.

Maybe we can open the bubble again if move end but i think all other dashdows have the same experience and most users like the current way.

Its not right to compare Dashdow completly with facebook messanger because it is build on an other way with no float fullscreen mode, only small popups.

Do the Android system close the Dashdow on your devices???

Best greetings

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] ahrion:
Float full screen mode is actually a perfect idea
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
As mentioned in comment before a little time this is plan for steps where Dashdow SMS became a Default SMS app :D

Best greetings

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] dylanchapman:
Hm, sorry. I must be failing to communicate the issue. A single tap can both close and reopen the popup currently if you tap it longer than the closing animation. I don't think this should happen.

Also, I second that fullscreen conversation isn't a bad idea at all once Dashdow becomes a default SMS. :P
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
Ok think this should not happen anymore on next release if we understand your issue right ;)

Tomorrow we release on PlayStore. The hole Dashdow family gets updated.

Best greetings

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] Razr5:
Any chance to get this for whatsapp? :)

Everything available doesn't work for me..
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
Take a look at our Dashdow WhatsApp. Also available on PlayStore and will be updated today. But reply function is not possible for WhatsApp.

Best greetings

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] Razr5:
What a pity :( the reply runction is what I am looking for, apps like floating whatsapp and seebye chat heads doesn't work well for me..

But keep up the good work :) maybe it is possible in future, would be awesome
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
New verison released on PlayStore:

- great new engine (smooth animations, memory saved livecycle, magnetic trash...)

- new input type (capitalized, autocorrect)

- badge count improved

- delivery report for reply

- time format in system setting

Please update and report errors or improvments!

Best greetings

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] dmarden:
Working great so far, nice progress... cannot wait for this to actually replace my other apps as a full SMS/MMS app.
[Android Apps and Games] ahrion:
Working great so far.

Some suggestions:

-Give us the ability to hide the chathead a little bit more. This would come in handy for us plus users

-clicking on the bubble sometimes doesn't open the bubble and the engine thinks I'm trying to move it. Please modify the bubble "hold to drag" time by like a millisecond or two

-allow us to change trash color and notification badge color.

-full screen mode. Give us the ability to expand to full screen. A good example would be like NinjaSMS

-I'm getting the notifications late. A good 20 seconds later than my main SMS app receives them. I didn't have this issue before

-with SMS delivery report I think it would be a good idea to have like a check mark on the message that was "delivered". Similar to google messenger

-attach images, gifs, sound, emojis ability

-more material design like in google messenger. Check on the way the send button animates

-add material design animations to "copy text"

I realized a way for dashdow not having NEED to be default sms app to dismiss notifications. I'm pretty sure that if you allow dashdow to take control of the notification access (in settings) or accessibility or app access (in settings). Not all of us will want to use dashdow as the main SMS app. Check the way Nova Launcher's Tesla Unread does this or open source ACDisplay does this.
[Android Apps and Games] theturbanator:
I agree with many of your points: I would love for there to be an option to hide the bubble to a greater degree (50 or 55%, for example). Being able to change the colors of the trash can and the badge number would also be awesome. I would prefer full-screen mode to be activated by a button on the pop-up. I definitely wouldn't want it to completely replace the pop-up, as I like being able to see the screen behind the pop-up.

Notification access would be the way to be able to remove SMS notifications without the app being the default SMS app – a lot of other notification-handling apps do this – but I'm always a bit wary of giving too many apps notification access. So it would be perfect as an option.

Thanks for all the great work, Julien!
[Android Apps and Games] ahrion:
The full screen could be made as a default functionality toggle and/or it could be done within the app, or the functionality can be disabled completely.

As for giving too many apps notification access, I have like 9 apps that have it and don't have any issues with it right now.
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
Wow, thanks all of you for this suggestions.

So i summaries this to a release plan with a preview of time for release:

- Offset, hide bubble more with setting in % [QUICK, next release]

- Badge and trash color, via setting [QUICK, next release]

- FIx move trigger [QUICK, next release]

- Remove notification of default SMS application on read [QUIET QUICK, needs to be analysed]

- Image as delivery feedback [QUIET QUICK, will check good image resources for this]

- Send button animation [QUIET QUICK, checking material possibilities]

- Load older messages [QUIET QUICK, needs analyse of Android content access]

- MMS integration [LONGER, mms api of Android needs to be checked]

- Fullscreen [LONGER, needs to be discussed how it should be integrated and looks like, may enable with a fling up and fling down will close fullscreen]

- Default SMS app [LONGER, think with time this will become a no way out]

- Launcher that opens on swipe of display border and displays contacts to start a chat [LONGER, many to discuss about style, interaction, animation etc.]

But i think we can do this!

By the way we currently try to make a Dashdow Bundle so all Dashdows in one app. This has memory advanages because Android limits heap size for all services of one application. Also its easier for user to get all in one. But this will only be a optional app that keeps up to date.

Best greetings and many thanks for feedback

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] ahrion:
With the whole default SMS app functionality that you mentioned above. . .maybe you should give us two options. If the end user decides not to make this app the default SMS, then keep the same functionality as it is now. If the default user does then allow more functionality that can't be processed through the current implementation. This way both users who want to use this app as default and users who want to use another app as default are both simultaneously happy.

Options and customization CHOICES make people happier.
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
Yeah customization is one of our main topics.

We currently integrating the first three topics of release plan.

Think start of next week this should be done.

By the way we released a Dashdow Bundle, which saves more RAM because of limited heap size per app.

This will also include all our upcoming Dashdows in future.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stallware.dashdow.bundle

If you like Dashdows you can buy this instead of buying all other. If not just continue discussing here!
[Android Apps and Games] Alanon:
[MENTION=5065163]Julien.H[/MENTION]: I have just been testing out version 1.4. Pretty great work, and really fast progress! I have read your feature plan, and I would add several small requests, if possible. Some have been mentioned before, but they are the only thing keeping me from using the app permanently, so I will mention them again, since they are practical features that I need for daily use:

1. Could you make it compatible with older versions of Android (4.2.2), to make the text visible in other texting apps? Currently, if I text someone from dashdow, it is visible only from there. And since the default sms app option is long away, this really needs to compatible. :(

2. There's a problem with the recent tasks, when a bubble is present and I clear the dashdow settings window, the popup gets closed. Also, there is often no texting history if the app is closed this way, you can see just the received message. I think the solution to this is making the app memory resident (you could add an option?)

3. Could you provide long message linking and diacritics stripping?

4. Could you add a way to call a popup per contact?

I know there are many new and exciting features coming, and I am hoping that you will include 1, 2 and 3 in your quick plans for next releases? :o I am available for all testing purposes. For inspiration, you can look at an old app called SlideOver messaging, that functioned in a similar way like yours does, only yours looks much better!
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
1. - will be checked for possibility to add sms in android content library!

2. - is fixed in next release, but have have to display a notification with min priority, so not in statusbar but only if statusbar is open. (4.3 above)

3. - will be checked, hopefully next release

4. - will be add with upcoming launcher but takes time.

Other current finished developments:

- fix destroy problems

- delivery report has images ( 1 chops and 2 chops like whatsapp)

- offset of bubble to hide it more as option

- highed up move trigger to avoid touch failures

Best greetings

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] acrossy:
So far... marvelous! :)

Thank you very much for adding delivery reports notification/request into the app it's working flawlessly :)

The only other thing missing for me woud be the option for the sms+ app to have some sort of access to the notifications without being the default sms app...

Would it be possible to implement some sort of integration of the app to the "Notifications Access" under the Security settings? maybe with such access/option (like greenify and many other apps such as my Listener Launcher have) the app would dismiss/mark as read!? I don't really know, just throwing my 2 cents here xD
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
Yes will add an optional notification access that dismiss the notification of the default SMS app and also ne reply will saved to SMS database on devices with less than 4.4. Forgot to add on dev list here.

Best greetings

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] ahrion:
Please add root mode to disable the notification.
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
You mean for systems with android lower than 4.4 or 4.3?
[Android Apps and Games] ahrion:
The new update is good, but I recommend hiding the default SMS notification only when the bubble is read, otherwise it's impossible to know you have a notification on the lock screen.

Even put a lock screen quick reply notification just for dashdow as well instead of when I hit quick reply with evolve SMS, it opens up the entire SMS window?

You can use the whole notification access with dashdow to populate entire SMS conversation. Maybe even implement swiping to swipe between contacts/bubbles.
[Android Apps and Games] dylanchapman:
I agree with ahrion, the notification is dismissed too quickly. Because it dismisses so soon, it doesn't even trigger my phone's LED light like the text normally would. If I was at work or anywhere I needed to have my phone on silent and used this, I would have no idea when I received a text.
[Android Apps and Games] ahrion:
More suggestions:

-When bubble is offset and bubble is clicked to reply, please give us the option to automatically unhide the bubble to 0% offset Then when we touch outside the bubble it automatically rehides itself to the normal offset set in the options. Ninja mode would be cool too, where if I haven't touched the bubble for quite some time, its offset even more. So maybe add 3 different offsets. 1. BUBBLE CLICKED - 0% offset, 2. BUBBLE ORIGINAL - 30% (set by user), 3. NINJA MODE (activated when bubble hasn't been touched for x amt of time, set by user) - 10% (set by user)

-for multiple bubbles maybe you can add some kind of docking system, kind of like how Google camera has when you swipe right to get the little bubble menu
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
Ok we will change to hide notifications after popup is closed. Thank you both for the hint!

Best greetings

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
We will try to figure out the best procedure.

Is the reply now added to sms sent database corretly for 4.3 and below users?
[Android Apps and Games] ahrion:
I use 5.1.1 so I can't help you there.

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No no no. Not after popup is closed, after SMS has been marked as read by dashdow.

Thank you Julien for being really good with handling our suggestions and implement it. Once the app gets traction, I guarantee you guys will have tens of thousands of Dashdow Plus buyers.
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
If Dashdow is not default SMS application we can not mark it as read on 4.4+.

Think if popup is set to auto open the user as to interact for close and so in many cases also read the sms. -> Notification can be removed on popup close.

If user has no auto popup he has to open popup and than close. -> Notification can be removed on popup close.

Why is this not a good interpretation for a first improvement?

Thanks for your trust in our project!

Best greetings

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] ahrion:
I thought you meant bubble close. I think I didn't say what I wanted to say the right way. You have it right.
[Android Apps and Games] LUISBITS:
ESta genial :)
[Android Apps and Games] migueldbr:
This is getting so good! New version is awesome!
[Android Apps and Games] astrosplatt:
Working like a charm for me. Only complaint I have is the red bubble color. But that's something I can live with. Lol

Edit: The pro version let's you change colors. I'm stupid. Lol
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
Thanks for good feedback.

We need to release a quickfix for 4.3 and below because of a stupid class not found exception. Sorry for that.

As appologize we changed implementation of notification removment to popup close ;)

Best greetings

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] beetlejluc:
you can add signature in outgoing messages

Thanks

Soory for my english
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
What exactly do you mean with signature?
[Android Apps and Games] acrossy:
I think he means the "Signature" text that can be created and gets atached to every sms/mms he sends through the main sms app! like the stock touchwizz sms app. there is a signature option there! Also like the "Signature" we use here on XDA! *points bellow to signature*

I could be wrong tho but it seems that's what he's talking about!

Also... thank you so much for the delivery reports implementation on dashdow! ;)
[Android Apps and Games] ahrion:
Anyone else see the double delivery report check mark?

Request: Please allow us to close the popup chat via pressing the home button

Thank you for the new up date dismissing notifications. Works great so far!!
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
Ok this sounds like good idea for next implementation.

Best greetings

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
Which double delivery report? Is this an error?

Thanks we keep on working!

Best greetings

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] beetlejluc:
Sign in sms or mms
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
Oh yes this is right!

first check means-> sent

second check means -> delivered

So on secend its sure that the message received the provider.
[Android Apps and Games] ahrion:
Oh that's clever!
[Android Apps and Games] astrosplatt:
Very. I assumed the second check was the indicator that the message had been seen. Like on FB.
[Android Apps and Games] ahrion:
Never mind. Keep up the good work.
[Android Apps and Games] Antoniv2689:
i like:good:
[Android Apps and Games] migueldbr:
in this new version my notification is not being removed, but it was on the previous version
[Android Apps and Games] ahrion:
Click out side of the opened popup
[Android Apps and Games] migueldbr:
Just tried it and does not work. Why do you think that would work? Does it work like that for you?
[Android Apps and Games] ahrion:
Enable the notification access in your settings.
[Android Apps and Games] migueldbr:
i had that enabled of course! Probably something not compatible with Samsung sh*tty touchwiz...I have a galaxy A5
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
Think you have to reactivate the notification access.

Or maybe reinstall?

Best greetings

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] ahrion:
More suggestions:

-when sending a SMS or mms(future), have a progress bar go around the bubble, kind of like flynx browser. Upon finish have some kind of cool animation indicating the message was sent and delivered (on the actual bubble, not in the popup)
[Android Apps and Games] migueldbr:
Done both, more than once...will try again to reinstall..

Edit: still not removing notification
[Android Apps and Games] acrossy:
I am also experiencing the no remove notifications from stock TW sms app.... samsung ftw....

Other than that.... all perfect! and yes i did all clear cache, uninstall, install app only, etc etc.

Oh well i'll just wait for the master upgrade to make Dashd default sms app so it can mark as read anyway ^^

Keep up the good work :)
[Android Apps and Games] migueldbr:
thank you, at least someone can back me up on this so i dont look like a noob xD

im not 100% sure, but i think it worked on version 1.4! [MENTION=5065163]Julien.H[/MENTION]
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
Ok trying to get a samsung device for check.

Development of default SMS integration has started but takes time. There are many features to implement.

Best greetings

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] ahrion:
Bug:

-When dragging an unread bubble the notification and unread count dismisses.
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
Thanks, will be checked!

Best greetings

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] astrosplatt:
I had the same issue on my note edge.
[Android Apps and Games] theturbanator:
Thanks for your continued great work on this app! Just wondering if you could implement a quick compose shortcut? That would be amazing!
[Android Apps and Games] Monco's:
After i install the app, I just keeping receive a SMS Delivery Report, even when its deactive from the messenger configurations and SIM Configurations, how can i stop it?

Thanks e great app beside that! :D [MENTION=5065163]Julien.H[/MENTION]
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
What do you mean with quick compose?

Thanks for suggestion ;)

Best greetings

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
Why do you want stop delivery report? This information is only for you. It informs you about the status of your sended message.

Best greetings

Stallware
[Android Apps and Games] Monco's:
Let me show you what i mean.

Translation: SMS Delivery to XXXXXXX at (17:02:03 ...)

I literally receive an SMS with the information that the SMS has delivery :p that option always exist for me (Im Brazil), but was deactive, and stills is, but with Dashdow i keep receive

[MENTION=5065163]Julien.H[/MENTION]
[Android Apps and Games] acrossy:
I think it's because it forces the cell number provider to send you the report and it would apear "their way" of sending it is through a real sms with the information, like vodafone did a few years ago with some really old nokias. the only way concerning dashdow from stoping it.... would seem to make "delivery reports notification" as an option in settings :x So he can turn delivery reports off manually and the rest of us who want the reports would just need to turn said option on ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Monco's:
Yep, probably thats the only solution, cause on the app messager this option is already deactive and in the SIM Card conf too
[Android Apps and Games] theturbanator:
Quick compose means that, via a shortcut, I can bring up the Dashdow SMS popup UI and type in a contact to whom I wish to send an SMS and then the text I want to send to that contact. Currently, I have to open up my default texting app to initiate a conversation, but I'd like to start the conversation using Dashdow SMS's popup UI instead, so that I don't have to leave the app I am in the middle of using. Does that make sense?

Also, would it be possible to make the text-entry field's height increase (to a max of three or four lines, perhaps?) when there are additional lines of text, rather than have the field scroll horizontally? It's hard to read the full text I'm about to send without having to scroll except when the text is very short.

Thanks!!
[Android Apps and Games] Zosk:
Hi,

Thank you so much for that awesome app!

I have a few requests to do:

Add "Disable delivery report" option

Add an Call button

Show the last 10 (or all) messages (like HoverChat)

Thanks in advance.
[Android Apps and Games] Monco's:
I got another problem, i cant send messages with more than 2 lines, they Just dont send, they just keep "seending" status and never send...
[Android Apps and Games] Julien.H:
Thanks for all suggestions. With developement of optional default SMS app the shortcut for starting a chat will come up.

Hopefully this does not take so much time.

Also delivery report will be optional.

Anyone else has this problem? We did not recognized this before.

Best greetings

Stallware