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[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
If you're waiting for the best device, you'll always be waiting. ;) This phone (Google it) holds its own and is far superior to others because it is not weighted down by OEM skins. (Sense/Touchwiz) So far, 64 bit has not impressed me at all. Check [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] benchmark thread in general forum to see what it's capable of. Stock Android will always be better. IMHO. :)
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] addcancercat:
Thank you so much for the correct solution. I appreciate the "help" from anyone, but it's wonderful to get the advice you need from someone who knows what they're doing! Thanks again!

Tappin from my Nexus 6

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The above is for simms22.

Tappin from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elevatorguy:
Hi guys sorry if this post doesn't belong here a friend recommended trying this thread as guys know your stuff and don't flame for dumb questions (maybe just a light toasting ?) I'm having a hell of a time with a few apps weatherbug Gsam battery to be precise (may be others just haven't foundem). Both will load their respective widgets and everything seems fine but if I click the widget or the icon in app drawer it causes the phone to reboot. I've tried uninstalling, reinstalling from both playstore and TB (with and without data), have tried wiping cache and dalvik cache then reinstalling them wiping again before trying to start the apps nothing seems to help. I tried downloading aLogcat but it doesn't seem to survive the reboot. This is happening with both bliss with vindi kernel and DU with inline kernel (both with clean flashes) Any help would be appreciated TIA
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] micmars:
No issues with either...it could be a CM12.1 issue, but I think that's a low likelihood, since each is quite popular (especially GSAM Battery among root users).

I installed and used the apps and widgets for each of these on an AOSP rom without issue.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
its been a looong time since i tried stopping an update on a stock rom, so if thats not the right service just let me know. then ill look and try to remember/find which service it could be.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elevatorguy:
What would be your recommendation? Clean flash again and see if that fixes issues?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrongway213:
So I finally took the plunge I had been considering [MENTION=5244502]micmars[/MENTION] and joined the dark side tonight. I installed TBO clear Play Store (zip), clear Youtube (zip), clear Es File Explorer (apk) and black Chrome (apk). My question is, I see the last Play Store update was 04/23. Last Banks minimal gapps package update was 4/28. Can I update my gapps like normally while using Clear Play Store even if it hasn't been updated in TBO, or will it cause issues? If I am able to update, do I need to do anything in particular (ex. restore in TiBu or reflash Play Store and Youtube zips/just Playstore along with gapps/etc.)? As for the apks, I assume I just treat them normally in TiBu from now on and update as normal through TBO updater.. please correct me if I am wrong on that. Thanks in advance guys, I know TBO gets a lot of love around here so I figure this is a good place for noob TBO questions lol.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elevatorguy:
Got it took me hours the culprit was minminguard, which upon further research it seems to do to random apps. Thought I'd let everyone know so they don't have to go through the headache of figuring it out.

On a side note being on 5.1 bootloader and radio can I install a nandroid of a 5.0.2 rom and be good or will it really bork something up?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jkdrinkard:
Hello all. I can usually search and find a solution but this one has me stumped so I'm reaching out for any help. I receive visual notifications in the status bar for gmail and for Google wallet transactions but never any sound notifications. I've checked repeatedly to verify all settings for sound are correct. It's just these two apps. All others work properly. When I first got my N6 wallet sound notifications worked fine, but gmail wouldn't even update unless I opened the app. Then I unlocked the bootloader and rooted, which wiped everything, and now this is the problem. I'm thinking I may need to wipe the device again and see if the problem is fixed, but I'm hoping there is another solution I haven't thought of yet. And help is greatly appreciated. I'm rooted, stock ROM, stock kernel.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] micmars:
First off, thank God. So nice to know that you're ready to take the plunge.

You could do this one of a few ways, but first, check the apk versions, not just the date...

Here are a few approaches...

1. Install the latest Banks, then push the older play store and velvet (I think they've both updated to later versions)

2. Using 7zip, open both packages but save neither (right click on each zip, select 7zip menu, then open from submenu, Banks is the target package, DU is the source) swap out the respective files from DU into Banks (phonesky, velvet, library files...delete old from Banks, copy from DU to Banks), then close Banks and save nothing...you'll now have a DU Banks package

3. Flash Banks, then flash individual apks from the TBO Updater after reboot.

I would use the method that suits you best, with option 2 being the cleanest and swiftest (honestly, takes all of 2 minutes).
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] micmars:
For Wallet, check and make sure that notifications are on, a sound is selected, and that you've gotten it to stick after reboot...mine took a bit of fiddling, but it did the job.

With Gmail, the sound settings and notification types have changed sufficiently that you'll want to verify that the settings you want are selected.

I do not think that either of these is being impacted by you being rooted...never underestimate Google's ability to push busted beta crap onto your device.

Good luck!
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Reserved.:
Noob question here, I'm thinking of upgrading to the 5.1 OTA. The notification is annoying and I wouldn't mind updating. That being said, will I still have root after I update? Should I unroot before I update? Is the root process the same for 5.1? Thanks :) I'm on rooted stock if anyone was curious.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
No, the OTA will not install when you're rooted. There's more information here:

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-6-ota-help-desk-t2992919

Root process is the same for 5.1. The best way to get unrooted would be to flash the system image from the factory image for the version you're currently on. However, if you're going to do that, why not just flash the entire factory image for the version of your choice. You can flash, via fastboot, the images separately, excluding userdata and retain all of your data. Then re-root. :)
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Reserved.:
Hmmm seems like it may just be better to flash a custom ROM if I'm going to go through the trouble. Thank you for the reply, I appreciate it. Gives me something to think about. Question though: is there any way to remove the notification? Really that is my only gripe with it. I hate seeing it on the lockscreen.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=60434412

Thanks [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION]
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jrbxx7:
You will want to update the radio and bootloader if flashing a 5.1 or 5.1.1 ROM for the best results. You can use wugs toolkit to upgrade and reroot and install twrp in one session. Use the force flash no wipe option and you won't even loose data..

TaPpEd FrOm My KiLlEr WhAlE
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrongway213:
Awesome answer. Thanks so much - TBO thread is like V4A thread, impossible to search and find because it's so long. So if I have understood correctly, option 1 I would simply flash Banks gapps, then flash the new Play Store all in one session? Or do I have to reboot after flashing gapps, delete Play Store, reboot, and flash Play Store? No need for Velvet at all as DJ themed it already in Sprite. Lastly, will I need to keep flashing Youtube on every upgrade since it's flashed via recovery and not an apk, or will it persist throught gapps upgrades and only need upgraded on ROM/kernel upgrades? Thanks for all your help - the clear is here!
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] micmars:
That would work, or you could push everything and reset permissions, since the Android Is Upgrading reboot time on this device is a nightmare. As long as the filenames are identical, it'll survive a rom upgrade.

Yes as to flashing (or pushing) YouTube on each update.

Pushing the apps and setting permissions, for me at least, is just faster.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
if youtube is placed in /system/app/ or /system/priv-app/ then it wont surive a rom update. if ots placed into /data/apps/, then itll survive the update. you can move it into /data/app/ yourself afyer flashing it. you can do it manually with a root file explorer or use titanium backup to change it to a user app instead of a system app. when updating a kernel, nothing rom related changes.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerrycoffman45:
if your phone locks up how do you reboot sense we cant do a battery pull
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Long hold power
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerrycoffman45:
thank you
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jayharper08:
Thread is now stickied, [MENTION=5244502]micmars[/MENTION].

We appreciate this. I myself will be in here to try and help the best I can.

Edit: I knew you would find a way to use the word irrespective in the OP. :p
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DebianDog:
Yes I found mine from my Droid X days. I think I'm going to need a new USB stick though

Sent from my Google N6 on VZ
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] micmars:
If you don't mind, I think that it would be terrific if you drafted whatever you like for the no-toolkit-needed-or-warranted section.

Please provide links, etc, and I'll place it above the toolkits block.

Many thanks.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] micmars:
That's awesome. Looks like a trade show advertising thing.

Yeah, a new one or two may be in order.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ooofest:
Question

: is it easier or safer to go unlocked/rooted/custom Recovery/custom ROM vs manually upgrade via standard Google images?

One reason I got the Nexus 6 was to take advantage of more frequent and timely OTAs from Google, bypassing the carriers. It seems that we're discovering each carrier times their own OTAs even for the Nexus 6 phones, possibly based on SIM identification.

The process for upgrading OTAs is to unlock, run some fastboot commands in a particular order, then optionally re-lock via a highly particular method.

I'm wondering if, given that I'm now at the mercy of Verizon all over again, it might just be easier to unlock, root, install a custom recovery and then go ROMming for the rest of my Nexus 6's days.

I've read of so many people hitting bootloops with locked phones that it's been scary - but, those with unlocked phones and custom recoveries almost always seems to have a way out. That reminds me of the old Droid Incredible and early Galaxy S III days, which are the last devices I customized.

All opinions welcome.

- ooofest
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bajasur:
Than you [MENTION=5244502]micmars[/MENTION] ! This forum desperately needed this.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] micmars:
Since you're upgrading your bootloader, and not downgrading, you should be safe, just make certain that you enable OEM unlock in settings, and I'd recommend removing any passwords prior to flashing am upgrade.

My vote is for the do-it-yourself route...many Verizon users have enjoyed this device for months, yet that company would have us believing that the Nexus 6 was just released a few weeks ago.

Hit this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3066052 if you like, and flash either a stock rom, or grab a bootloader + modem combo in one of [MENTION=426561]scrosler[/MENTION] threads, and then flash whatever rom you want, stock or custom, 5.1 or 5.01/5.02 (you can be on the 5.1 bootloader and run a 5.01 or 5.02 rom).

I just read a post by a guy that is using T-Mobile running the 98R modem (supposedly that's Verizon specific).

If you're rooting your device, then you are already in a small subset of users, even among Nexus users, so I consider even the way I get updates (straight from devs) far better than either from the carrier or via the OTA from Google.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ooofest:
Yeah, it's a change in my thinking of staying stock for awhile since this carrier-driven OTA issue came up, but I'm likely getting there - your comment helps, thanks. FWIW, I am using a Motorola Store-bought Nexus 6 that's been on Verizon for at least a few weeks and I triggered an OTA to 5.1 "D" the other day by doing a factory reset with my SIM temporarily removed.

(BTW, I tried to give you Thanks for this reply but I'm all out for the day - you got some of mine earlier in the topic! - will double back when my counter resets).

- ooofest
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] galaxys:
Great thread! Just received my new Nexus6 and this information has already helped!
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
This is my usual statement [MENTION=5244502]micmars[/MENTION]

"There's nothing wrong with toolkits themselves. They can be great, useful tools. We're not even saying they cause bricks either - though users not understanding things *could* cause one...Toolkits are necessary on many devices, but on Nexuses, the manual steps are very easy.

Ultimately it's fine to use a toolkit but *only* if you already know how to do all these steps manually. If you do not know how to do that then you should do it manually so that you do know. The reason for this is if something goes wrong further down the line, we don't want to have to teach you the basics AND tell you what you need to do to fix whatever issue you have. We just want to do the latter - because teaching someone the basics that they should already know when they are frustrated and panicking is not a good set of circumstances to be teaching under and it is frustrating to us more than you and putting us in that situation is a little bit selfish"
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zephiK:
Another good statement is the link in rootSU's profile which contains a post by El Daddy on the GN forums.

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-nexus/general/dangers-tool-kits-one-click-root-t1469909
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] micmars:
That thread is 3.2 years old.

Congrats on the title upgrade.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] micmars:
Thanks [MENTION=2872010]rootSU[/MENTION], I'll make the emendations necessary to get this into the writeup.

I appreciate it.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] recDNA:
Is the vzw n6 bootloader unlockable?

Why do people sometimes re-lock bootloader?

Why get rid of encryption?

Thanks!
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Yes. For added security or they are required by their employer. Some feel that decrypting speeds the device up. Mostly that is placebo otherwise it has minimal effect and places your personal data at an easier target for theft.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] recDNA:
Thanks for a lightening speed response!

I just don't get how locking bootloader adds to security? It cannot be accessed remotely can it?

Would an unlocked bootloader prevent banking apps from working? I know rooting does.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Here's a good article with an explanation:

http://www.howtogeek.com/142502/htg...-of-unlocking-your-android-phones-bootloader/
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrongway213:
You guys are the best, I literally can't screw this up now lol
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] micmars:
And I'll gladly do it every update. I need a good, hard coded, properly themed app, and that's what TBO provides.

To me it's way better to have as many Gapps that I regularly use as possible in the system partition...it's also why minimal Gapps, for me, are a non-starter. Benefits include a leaner footprint, smaller backups, etc.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
only the minimum for me as well, thats why i use banks gappa, and occasionally test them for him. anyways, i used to use tbo apps as well. but, things have changed. now i mostly use layers, for my theming. and everything gets themed black! plus, im always using the very latest apps, inatead of waiting for a tbo update. double plus, i still have their app :angel:
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] veesix:
Hi guys, another noob question for you. I received my Nexus 6 today as planned, it's still fully stock (planning to root it tomorrow.

I noticed I haven't seen the LED on when charging. Is this normal? I thought it was supposed to light when in charge, in stock conditions.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cam30era:
This is normal. LED only lights if battery is very low.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kickenwing13:
ATT Nexus 6 on Verizon

Seems like I just can't get a ROM to be smooth with no foce closes , especially in browser. I was wondering if when I came to 5.1 I messed something up... It's not bad, just force closes more than i'd like to see... especially in facebook. If i'm currently on euphoria and build lmy47v .. What can I do to get an absolute clean install rooted and with the correct stuff so I feel like a have a clean base to flash roms to...
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Factory image. :)
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kickenwing13:
I'm total fastboot virgin so I'm using the toolkit mostly..... I'm currently downloading LMY47D because from what I read it made it sound like the correct thing.. I assume I can use Wugs to flash that image? and I just need to reroot and unlock then make a back up ?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Your bootloader should absolutely remain unlocked. No need at all to relock. You will need to flash custom recovery again, if you want, and re-root, yes.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kickenwing13:
Thanks. I'm going to try all that . I'm way overdue on doing it I think. What's the issue? why does stuff not just totally flash when you wipe and install a ROM. I thought the rom would overwrite the errors if I did enough wipes... THat thought not based on ANY science..
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Well, I'm not a fan of toolkits because... reasons. Though sometimes they are helpful. It depends a lot on what you wipe and when. No need to wipe internal, of course, but when switching to an entirely different ROM, built from an entirely different source than your current, it's best to wipe data along with system and cache. Most of the time, just the TWRP factory reset can be enough.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3 Doors Down:
I need help disabling the proximity sensor altogether. Tried different fixes, apps nothing works. Any help is appreciated. Thanks<br/>
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kickenwing13:
am going to try this and be stock for a couple days, hopefully smooth. I agree i should learn fastboot and understand whats going on instead of blindly using a toolkit believe me... Still a goal of mine... Thanks for the help and thanks for not being a d--- about questions .
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrongway213:
We've all been there.. you are wise for not just jumping into that which you do not understand. As for your question, think of it like this: imagine calling tech support because your computer is not working right. They are able to communicate with your computer and modem and such via your ISP - when something goes wrong on a ROM, there is no ISP to report it to. No one can see the issues but you, the one in possession of the phone. The only way around this, the closest thing there is to that type of communication is a logcat to submit to your ROM dev. You know how sometimes tech support can't even figure out how in the hell you got your computer so messed up, they can't fix it, and the only thing they can suggest is starting from scratch with a new computer? That's basically the same principle as a clean flash being required to fix an issue. If the exact cause can't be pinpointed in a sea of thousands and thousands of variables, just starting from scratch is simpler than looking individually at each possible thing, especially when it's likely a combination. I hope this analogy helps make some sense out of things to you - I know it all seemed illogical to me at first, but thinking of it in a more real world applicable way helps me when I am lost.. I hope it does the same for you. Anyway, welcome!
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kickenwing13:
well it just took like 2 seconds to flash, so according to prompts I checked and saw some errors. So i'm trying again, and it's asking me to install a boot.img this time and it's redownloading a factory image.... sucks.. but i'm sure it'll work out.. Thanks for the analogy. makes sense.. you can do logcats with apps and with wugs correct? So if im struggling I could plug in, open the problem app while making a log with wugs?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrongway213:
I believe you can pull a log from Wug's toolkit. I am not sure what you would be attempting to get a log of, though. Generally, if you are having an issue, say an app crashing/ force closing, you can just open this app, Catlog, and use it to get a log right from your device with no computer connection required. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nolanlawson.logcat&hl=en As for the errors, look at the Wug's FAQ.. if that does not cover it let us know what errors you are having, maybe we can help you sort them out.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] micmars:
I completely respect the minimal Gapps, I just don't use them...and layers is nice, in fact, I use it...just doesn't properly theme certain apps the way I like them.

And glad you're using the updater app.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] micmars:
You could also install one of the stock based modified roms, like Sinless, the one from Vectus, Cleanrom, etc...this allows a completely stock base and a far better experience...just another option, as I see you've been given what some may consider a best solution.

I wish you all the best.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cerj:
Mic, I hope your feeling better my fren..
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrongway213:
So, after just a little time on the clear side, I have a response to these portions of your post

First, thank God indeed. So sad to know I spent all this time using unthemed apps when they are this excellent, better late than never lol

As for method 2, it certainly is the best way it seems. It was super easy to make a TBO Banks package - took like 2 minutes just like you said, maybe less honestly as 7zip stays ready on my laptop. I initially tried just installing the apps, but this way appears cleaner, and allows me to update all in one flash with no errors - awesome advice. I do not ever want to use stock apps again - I always thought you were being a bit jocose with your comments about theme trumping function, but now I am not so sure.. this is just worlds better. Thanks again for all the help - this is exactly what I was searching for when I initiailly posted and it turned out to be WAY easier than I thought it'd be. Now to test if deleting apps from gapps package works - if so I will just delete the few I don't use from DU clear gapps when I get this Inbox invite from Google already and clean flash with DU gapps package so I can have even more clearness. :good: This thread is so useful - I can pretty much always find someone to help or something to learn, sometimes both.