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[Moto G General] MarckozZ:
And what did you expected to receive talking to Motorola Chat? Did you expected to talk to a developer? Mind yourself that the person who answers the questions are girls from 20 to 30 years old that own a Nokia Lumia phone and dont know anything about ETAs of OTAs...And even if they knew something about that, they wont release any info to an average Moto user..

Also, there is no need to be like that when chatting to customer service... No need to be rough.. Just flash CM12, works great already, or flash BR Lollipop, its rocky stable! When the day comes, go to US Lollipop.

So, no need to open a new thread for this man,,, take it easy.

Cheers!
[Moto G General] tzzeri:
I totally agree. This is just unacceptable. The way you talk to another human being. You are extremely rude. If I was the moto representative, I'd just disconnect from you. Moto support is for people who need help with their phones. What did you expect will be the outcome, that they'll give you the update over moto support? I know they often don't help well with normal stuff, but that doesn't give you a right to be rude to them. Go and get a life
[Moto G General] MetalPhoenix45:
How was I rude?

Sent from my XT1032
[Moto G General] jman1234:
You didn't worship the ground they walk on, that's how you were rude. Where were your manners?
[Moto G General] tzzeri:
Helo??

?

Heloooooo

Please can you respond faster?
[Moto G General] Little_Tiger:
Good point!

Also if one is so angry/furstrate/pissed or whatever. Switch phones, it is easy as that. If you are NOT satisfied with the product don't use it.

I have done that. And things didn't get better, so wait patiently like we do or do what was suggested.
[Moto G General] AgentChaos:
I am waiting too but if you are really that impatient then just flash UK or EU firmware and get the update, works just as well :)
[Moto G General] moralesnery:
People like you are the reason Motorola stopped Soak tests.
[Moto G General] cpvm:
Guys you should not be worried about updates, you should enjoy the phone, previously I have a nexus 5 and believe me updates are not what we expected, lollipop make me need to reboot the phone everyday cause leak, camera, flash, and 5.1 was the same thing I was very disappointed with Google.

Now I have a moto g and I can use my phone everyday without having to worried about battery, flash, ram and so on.
[Moto G General] sjandroiddeveloper:
There is no need of a thread for this kind of ****

If you are a senior xda member you should not cry like a kid for official updates but you should flash a custom firmwares.

And there is no need to say bad things about the company or the representatives

Close this thread
[Moto G General] MetalPhoenix45:
Its because the responder took almost 10 minutes to reply.

Sent from my XT1032
[Moto G General] MetalPhoenix45:
Yeah, I guess.

Sent from my XT1032
[Moto G General] eemgee:
We didn't by our phones expecting this update. It's not like you have a unusable device on 4.4.4

FFS it's only a operating system!
[Moto G General] MetalPhoenix45:
You know what, im just going to stick with cyanogenmod.

Sent from my XT1032
[Moto G General] tzzeri:
That's because you're not the only one in the world they need to respond to. Either way, with the word almost, it seems you're exaggerating. And they're not your slave, they can answer when they want
[Moto G General] MetalPhoenix45:
Its one at a time, when I went to get support before it said you are #7 in line so this shows that its one at a time, and of course they are not my slave. It took 5-10 min.

Sent from my XT1032
[Moto G General] Chrono86:
There's a problem here. You know what's great about Android most of the time? The ability to develop custom ROMs for it and tweak it to make it our own.

You know what's not acceptable? Locking bootloaders, not letting certain groups of us unlock it, and essentially preventing us from owning what's rightfully ours. I don't mean to sound entitled here, but the hardware is mine, I legally purchased it, and I should be able to break it all I want. I have no issue with Motorola taking their time to make sure Lollipop is the best it can be. My issue is the fact that just because I have a "branded" device, I'm not allowed to unlock my bootloader and install a different ROM. And I'm not even an ATT/Cricket customer, so why should I be subjected to their rules?

Sorry about the rant, it's just an issue that really bothers me here.
[Moto G General] sjandroiddeveloper:
They lock the device to prevent you from killing it and knocking on company's doors for warranty
[Moto G General] aqswde123:
I got my lollipop update already, But I totally agree with OP. The 1032XT US is the exact same as the one in Europe, they don't even need to change much, yet they are not releasing the update. It's not like Google released lollipop yesterday and the OP is demanding for it today. The wait has been patient and long, there is a limit for everything and OP has paid the same amount(if not more than the people who have got it), so he has every right to demand it.

So all you guys trying to act "mature" by having a go at the OP are actually the immature ones trying to act smart. The 1032xt/1034xt (U.S retail) are the two models which were the first to be released in the World and that gave Moto G the popularity it has today, all of us in other countries(including me) bought this phone seeing and reading stuff on youtube and xda posted my US retail owners and then purchased it later after it released in our country. So moto (lenovo) have f**ked up big time, they have disrespected the users who went on to make the phone the most sold in their companies history.
[Moto G General] Warrior868:
while i might not agree with how the OP spoke to the service rep, i understand his frustration. Whats the reason for the long delay ?
[Moto G General] esd316:
but you dont have a lifetime warranty, so the carriers dont have any reason for lock the phones :(

I installed brazil lollipop and dont have any problem, but if i have a problem with the hardware i cant use the warranty for that reason
[Moto G General] ReOmbra:
the users with moto and droid series were accustomed too well in the lasts years...

and have been infected from the UpdateMania .. like nexus users..

every little delay make crazy everybody..

Don't Worry be happy and the update coming.. ----> thank moto for your magic devices :highfive:
[Moto G General] Berties123:
You're a baby
[Moto G General] MetalPhoenix45:
What I've been trying to say!

Sent from my XT1032
[Moto G General] lifetimes:
*claps*. This person understands.
[Moto G General] MetalPhoenix45:
Can you please show me how I acted rude to the representative? I told her to reply faster, because, she took 5-10 min to reply. So give me a break.

Sent from my XT1032
[Moto G General] MetalPhoenix45:
Real mature of you.....

Sent from my XT1032
[Moto G General] lifetimes:
From the post, it doesn't look like it took so long but everyone seems to have prematurely accused you of being rude but, just like you, I feel your frustration. I have friends who have carrier versions of phones, like the One M7 and they have received the update before those of us who has the US retail Moto g.
[Moto G General] Berties123:
I'd stick with KitKat anyway.
[Moto G General] MetalPhoenix45:
The weird thing is that the gpe version got it sometime during December and its almost April now.

Sent from my XT1032
[Moto G General] tzzeri:
Why can't she take her time? You're able to do other stuff while you're waiting. Because if you find out the info you want a few minutes later the world will end?

And she's not your slave, and she doesn't even have to help you with that question, because their job isn't to tell you why the moto devs haven't released it yet, because they are hired to HELP (yes, help, that's why the app is called 'Motorola help') people with their phones, not fill people's curiosity about what's going on in the devs del mmartment. And they do have other things to do (the hours when moto help is open, it's open the whole time, so when do you think they eat lunch, have a coffee, stretch..., and I know in my area, it's always the same operator.

Just buy a new phone, Samsung or HTC, and then deal with the fact that you won't be able to contact anyone.
[Moto G General] MetalPhoenix45:
Please, your logic doesn't make any sense, it is there job, I'm asking for help. Not everyone is rich like you and buys phones just like that.

There are multiple workers there, do you think they literally work 24/7?

Sent from my XT1032
[Moto G General] DustArma:
Oh god you are actually serious, you do realize both the regular and 4G models were first released in Brazil and Europe and then the rest of the world, don't you?

You do realize that the reason the Moto G is so popular is because Motorola created a market out of nowhere for these devices in developing countries that was previously dominated my dumbphones and ****ty, unsupported Samsung smartphones, don't you?

You do realize you are being incredibly entitled and people like you and the OP are the reason why 1st rate developers have been abandoning the device, don't you?

Of course you do, after all you are such a level headed individual while we, the people appreciative of a cheap, powerful smartphone that has gotten at 2 major versions of android and is due for at least one more and was up to date at release while competitors were permanently stuck at Jelly Bean 4.1.x, ICS or god forbid Gingerbread, are the kids.

God forbid you ever owned a Galaxy S3 mini like I did, no updates and a chipset from a dead manufacturer.
[Moto G General] MetalPhoenix45:
But, since the update came to most other countries, it just felt a little unfair to me.

Sent from my XT1032
[Moto G General] Berties123:
oh noes your phone doesn't have lollipop, only kit kat. Your phone is totally unusable. Your life is meaningless now.

It's the end of the world, I can't live anymore I'll jump off a cliff- it's just too much to bear.

LOL
[Moto G General] tzzeri:
So obviously the devs working on the us variant don't think it's ready yet. So you'll need to wait.
[Moto G General] MetalPhoenix45:
over exaggerate much?

Sent from my XT1032
[Moto G General] aqswde123:
Your totally missing the point in ur desperate need to act all grown up....

Who cares about exact release dates...update is out in places where the phone was released later. I don't understand the delay when the hardware is exactly the same. There is no excuse for this... Let the devs take all the time they need but that is not the issue here..
[Moto G General] tzzeri:
Hardware is exactly the same, but firmware is different
[Moto G General] aqswde123:
It's the same 5.0.2 for the same 1032xt.
[Moto G General] lifetimes:
Yeah, I know. I have it under good authority that the update shall be out soon.
[Moto G General] tzzeri:
Not true. I've had different firmwares and they are different, even the ROMs.
[Moto G General] aqswde123:
How are Many people using Brazilian/European 5.0.2 on their U.S retail?

Why can't motorola release the same F/W(With a few country specific changes) officially with a different system version for U.S
[Moto G General] sjandroiddeveloper:
Maybe the carriers in US are the ones that restrict the OTAs even for retail devices

Sent from falcon

Press thanks if helped ?
[Moto G General] Warrior868:
soon :crying::crying:
[Moto G General] lifetimes:
Carriers has nothing to do with the U.S. Retail, which is the non-carrier, unlocked version of the phone.

---------- Post added at 08:57 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:56 AM ----------

That's better than never, right?
[Moto G General] r25txe:
I haven't read the other replies in this thread, but I am sure that I won't be the only one who will be disgusted at the way you spoke to that representative.

The sense of entitlement reeks, she would've been in her rights to tell you to take a hike, but she remained courteous to you.
[Moto G General] MetalPhoenix45:
If I was rude in anyway, I'm sorry okay?

Sent from my XT1032
[Moto G General] MetalPhoenix45:
I was just a little angry because it was released in Brazil and Canada retail and they're both XT1032s.

Sent from my XT1032
[Moto G General] KennyG123:
I think the thread has run its course

Thread closed
[Xperia Z1 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hermanj:
TrackID, Shazam and Soundhound are not working on my z1c.

TrackID says the microphone is used by another program. Strange cause I can use it to record memos. Or it just stays on the initial screen doing nothing until Android wants to close it because it doesn't respond anymore.

Shazam and Soundhound are running but don't recognize any songs. Probably cause they don't record any sound.

Other phones do recognize the sound without problems.

Tried rebooting, wipe user data. Didn't work.

My phone is rooted and has a custom dual recovery. I didn't unlock the bootloader.

It's on stock 4.4.4, 14.4.A.0.157.

Any suggestions?
[Xperia Z1 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hermanj:
I found the problem: I increased the volume of my Z1C with a ZIP file. But that one has the wrong "mixer_paths.xml" file in it for Android 4.4.4. The solution is in this post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53835372&postcount=285

(replacing the mixer file with the right one).
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ultrasuper:
Lookiing for some general guidance here (checked the FAQ 1st)

I'm thinking about getting service on an ATT MVNO (H2O) and wondering which version would be the best to pursue.

The D850 would be the simplest, but a quick look around here and the T-Mobile developer forum seems to have more activity, more content, and a greater variety of ROMs (and possibly support).

Also, I read in another thread here from about 6 months ago that there is much less bloatware by default on the TM variant and the booloader is not locked down by default either. Further, there are some hardware features which may not exist on the 850 that are on the 851 (such as wireless charging possibility).

So I'm leaning toward seeking out a D851 but perhaps there would be some caveats of getting a D851 fully operational on AT&T that I'm not aware of. If so, any guidance is most welcome.

TIA
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itsbighead:
The only difference between both of them is that one will allow you to download the latest software updates and the other wont
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ultrasuper:
? which one is that ?
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itsbighead:
Since your going to be using AT&T, the AT&T variant (D850） will allow you to download the latest software updates since you have a AT&T sim installed

For the Verizon variant you have to have a Verizon sim installed in order for OTA updates to show up
[General Topics] niobos:
Hi,

This is my first post, so I'm a bit uncertain as to where it belongs...

I have a Trinity, but the problem is more Windows Mobile related, I guess.

When I open a message in pocket outlook (any message, IMAP mail or SMS), the message openes, but scrolled to the "second page" (even when the SMS is only 3 lines long)...

I can scroll up, and see the whole message; but it's annoying.

Does anyone know how I can solve this?
[General Topics] Oliy:
It is to do with the settings of Internet Explorer when the navigation is set to scroll line by line instead of jumping between links.

Installing jasjamming's Pimp My Black tweaker (search this form for it) and disabling this D-pad behaviour fixes it.
[General Topics] niobos:
Hmm... actually this doesn't solve the problem, it is still "scrolled", but only till the second hyperlink (being the from-line, which is almost at the top).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] npjohnson:
This is only to be used if you know what you are doing. This enables Unsigned Kernel Modules on the SCH-i545 (NC5/NK1), and the i337 (NC1).

Flash downloaded zip in Recovery.

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934548235

Package of Modules built by [MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION]:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mpyeju0082c6f9m/modules.zip?dl=0

NOTE: Many of these are useful, but don't just load them for fun, they can be dangerous. Also, some do not function as expected, i.e. fastchg.ko has no effect, this is known, but I use that module in specific to test if modload is functioning.

Usage:

-- ALL of these commands must be run as root ("SU' in terminal/ADB Shell)

-- Run "Modload" to enable unsigned modules

-- Run "insmod /path/to/module.ko" to load a specific module

-- Run "rmmod modulename.ko"

-- Run "lsmod" to view a list of currently loaded kernel modules

-- Run "Modload -r" to re-enable kernel module signature checks

Credits:

This is completely based off of [MENTION=2471504]jeboo[/MENTION]'s original BypassLKM exploit on MK2.

The whole script is kanged from [MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION] 's update of the BypassKLM exploit to NC5.
[MENTION=3755964]tulth[/MENTION] found the memory address to overwrite to re-enable this exploit on NK1.

I just packaged it into Surge's ModLoad script.

Screenshot of usage:

http://imgur.com/Yk9uq6e
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bryantjopplin:
This allows kernel to be setup on non unlocked bootloader correct? If so that's pretty neat. I have mdk just was wondering.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] aigochamaloh:
And so it begins!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] kcarden:
Only kernel modules.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jeboo:
Great to see the fight still rages on!! :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] npjohnson:
Haha. Good to see you around [emoji14] If you want to join the telegram group chat we have going about Kexec/the boot loader, just let me know, you are more than welcome. (:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] wavedashdoc:
I've been doing some research on this as of late (basically by tweaking the stock kernel and testing different gov's, turning off MP-Decison, etc) Now I want to learn more of what these unsigned modules are about. I have 2 questions. First is can we use other modules outside of the ones Surge compiled? (Like load in the smartassv2 gov or insert and overclock and voltage crtl) Second is for basic understanding can we get a description for each of the modules included in the package?

Thank you [MENTION=5848265]npjohnson[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION] for your continued work on the VZW s4. I like so many are eagerly checking the thread for updates on the bootloader unlock!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] npjohnson:
A kernel module can execute code at the kernel level. I.e. make SMC Calls, and device hardware calls, and a lot more.

Any valid (signed or not) kernel module will attempt to load, but obviously fail if it isn't written correctly.

As for the modules in the zip, several are test modules, and some do not work correct, I haven't tested them all. The QuickCHG.KO one does not work for example. Feel free to test and report which ones work.

About 5 pages back in the boot loader thread, surge released over/under clocking modules (don't use if you aren't sure of what you are doing!). I would not recommend including these in a ROM (the over clocking ones), as the basic user will likely wayyy over clock and bad things will ensue. :p

Building a basic Linux kernel module is a complex process, as in most cases, you have to compile the module along with a kernel meant for your device. (Use NC5 source). If you need any help, I can put you i n touch with some helpful sources on building Kernel Modules.

I doubt a governor would come in the form of a module... But you could probably find a way to set the governor using a governor module and a ROM to enable governors. Also, don't load modules made for other devices/other kernels, as we mist remember, this is still the TW kernel.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] klabit87:
I've had the conservative governor working for quite some time.

Has increased my battery life slightly but noticeable.

Do the modules that surge released also support u/v and o/v as well? or do you know?

I have tried building the kernel modules with nc5 source but haven't been able to get past a few errors but I do plan to get back to it sometime.

Do you mind pm'ing the sources you are speaking of? or post them here whichever you prefer :)

Thanks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] npjohnson:
Which source? The NC5 kernel is what I was talking about. Then you can kang Linux modules for just about everything else. Other than the governors, this have to be specific to our device.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] klabit87:
I mean the sources for building kernels.

I know where to get nc5 from.

I want to try to import other governors eventually once I get past my errors.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] npjohnson:
Well, I could describe it to you, but I'd butcher how to setup a kernel build env. [MENTION=3755964]tulth[/MENTION] could describe it much better.

To build a kernel module, you have to build them with the kernel. Honestly though the readme for the NC5 kernel describes the process fairly well.

I can walk you through general kernel building, but each one requires different tools/toolchains.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] klabit87:
Oh ok. I thought you might have a few reliable threads/guides that I may not have seen yet.

I have the environment and toolchains setup I just have some errors that keep getting in the way so it never compiles.

I may take some time this weekend to setup my system as a dualboot again.

Been quite a while since I've done it.

Any particular problems with building anything android on the latest ubuntu?

I would like to use the latest LTS 64 bit
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] npjohnson:
Stick with 14.04, and a quick note, dont go installing the newest java, because you have to have jdk 7, and at least on my end, it kept resetting default to jdk 8.

Tl:dr: don't deal with 14.10. God its a pain.

If you want to PM me the errors, I might be able to help.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] klabit87:
Thanks for the tip.

I have everything setup in a vmachine but I recall you saying a while back that you never had any luck building with a vmachine

so I'm gonna dual boot for now.

I saved a screenshot of the errors so I will find it and pm you when I can.

thanks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] uplusion23:
Sorry if this is off topic, but with loading custom modules couldn't you in a way make NC5/NK1 compatible with AOSP Roms? Just build what they need?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] npjohnson:
Its called KitPop (its in the Dev section) [emoji14] MTP and WiFi softboot are the only bugs. Got WiFi AP to work.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scarlion:
i would like to know the meaning of various protocols i have seen in URIs that XPrivacy is showing me.

for example, i notice Google Account Manager is trying to access something at content://media/external/images/... what exactly is that referencing? there is no /media directory on the filesystem...

also noticed some references to content://com.google.android.gms.download/download/libappdatasearchext_armeabi_v7a.so for example, but i don't exactly see that either... there's a /data/data/com.google.android.gms/app_download/ but it doesn't have that .so file in it. in fact 'find' didn't find that file anywhere in the filesystem...

i thought i saw some other protocols besides "content" but can't seem to find those right now in my XPrivacy logs... here's another one: android.resource://

sorry really new to Android, thanks