[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
don't understand your point. But mine was what won that photo was the composition. Image quality was never going to stand up to full frame dslrs. choice of subject and composition. image quality is the icing on the cake.

dull as in lacking contrast, i saw this with HDR. depending on where you get exposure you can reduce some of that haze or increase contrast. Have to experiment. image quality will staty the same. iso 50 is iso 50. no improvment in details, just improvement in exposure.

washout can mean too much light or the light is very harsh. time of day is most responsible for this. Try with softer light earlier or closer to sunset.

This one i don't what can be done since i've not seen anyone experiment with it. so am waiting to see whether it can be corrected by the user or not at all. Some shots come out fine and some don't have the problem at all.

i cant comment about video but again the one was the only device to actually offer manual iso for video in the m8. i never heard of such a thing before. lower the iso your shot looks nicer but it also gets dimmer. would you prefer to see what you shot even if its more grainy. The one will get that video the others might not.

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Then look elsewhere or sell it. Not all companies release camera software that is ready ootb. I've seen sony do this and people just had to put up with it until things were fixed. Sony puts out a device every 6 months. Htc had one year. So yes it could have been better. I have heard that 'could have been better' so many times i'm tired of it. i told people why are you torturing yourself. sell and get something else. why bring others down by constantly harping about it. Because you have a pain everybody must also have it too ?

s4 exynos was a classic **** up, ootb the phone would restart if you took a photo. it would heat up like crazy. they issued lots of updates but people were still not entirely happy even 6 months later but the problem reduced. others went custom way and closed lots of apps. what is this ? its called workaround. And this is samsung. Usually they release things that are ready. Even apple had a problem with one of the iphone cameras a while back. It happens.

The old timers here will know all about this with various devices. one plus one and yellow tint that never goes away. to me these are maddening because it means you have to check the damn device for any issues and it causes anxiety because you have spent so much money. i would wait a minimum of 3 months before considering any flagship. but many people here love to get it hot off the press.

This is one reason people go with apple, just one device from a reputed company. very noob friendly. To consider android is to have a very bad headache because there are so many choices.

I'm not saying its ok, but if you get it now then what other option is there other than to work around it. or give up.

Am interested to see what can be done by the user to work around. if it cannot be worked around then we know the limit.

I'm not in any development program, i'm here to get an accurate take about what is possible with the m9. The reviews do not get into that at all. I'm not into hearsay but when people post shots here that are aceptable i will throw them at others who say its not ok. well, how did it work with this guy. what did he do to avoid the problems or reduce them.

And my answer is also above. I take the view that people have made their bed with this product and if they want more what can they do ? demonstrate outside htc's office ? make a big sound. If there is a problem htc will never admit it. No company ever does. They just fix it silently.

Apple is different, if there is a problem such a stink gets created it assumes national importance, or people put out stupid things like bendgate. any hype to gain attention.