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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wynnded:
Too big, two cents. :(
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gqskrub:
I'm stuck only because the money required to switch is prohibitive. Aside from that, someone once said (I think it was adrenalyne) to vote with your wallet. Vote unlocked BL from the box. N6.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
I am pretty sure adrynalin wasn't the original author of that saying, lol!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
No but I support it :D :D :D
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
Have you ever counted all the various ways people misspell your screen name, lol! I think I have misspelled it at least 3 times.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Its shorter to count the times people get it right ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
I got 500 for my turbo on swappa. What's a n6 cost? 550 I think? I dunno, could almost be an even trade. Or a small "upgrade" fee lol. I'm jumping ship to the s6. I know I know lol. N6 is to big for me. Besides battery that s6 is perfect to me! Thus far at least..my mind could change from now till then
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Harry44:
I really don't know about the size. Yeah I have had the one 2 and 3. I really did enjoy the screen real estate. I just feel like the screen on the N6 is way too big. If BL unlock doesn't end up happening I will more than likely jump ship and get the Nexus 6 or Seygus V2(pending VZW's certification lol.)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
Was it a 32GB or 64GB model? How much did you net after shipping, paypal and swappa fees? $460 or so?

32GB is $650 + sales tax and 64GB is $700 + sales tax. They were a bit lower on Amazon.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
64. 480ish. My shipping was free. (Wifes Work)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
OK so if you don't have access to someone who can bill their personal shipping costs to their work, lol! then you would have netted about $460 with shipping costs/insurance. And that doesn't include what you paid for the Droid Turbo. How much did you pay for the DT with sales tax and upgrade fee?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
I got a pretty good deal on mine launch day. All fees got waves. My Wife is SO good at getting deals lol. I just stand there =) I paid 180 out the door. And.. I got 100 off my next bill. So technically 80 lol.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
She's a keeper!!!!

yeah, that was a great deal!

OK for those who don't have your wife to help them shop, lol!, they probably paid at least $200 + sales tax + upgrade fee for the 64GB, so about $255 or so depending on where you live. Deduct that from the $460 and you have $205 net profit. If the 64GB N6 is $745 with tax, that ends up being $540 OOP, which is a lot for many people.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
Why are you subtracting what you paid for the turbo. Close to a trade..not a free phone lol. And there are a bunch on swappa. 550 range.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Character Zero:
I guess the thing is I really don't need root for anything anymore. I am on a share plan so I don't need wifi tether hacks. I really only used TiBU because I would move between ROMs. I wonder if when hte Turbo gets 5.1 if that would just be enough. Maybe wait until the next Nexus hoping it will be smaller and on Verizon. Another issue is I have the Turbo on Edge which means I need to pay off Edge and then sell the phone (which will net me a little bit of a loss) and then get the Nexus 6 on Edge.

Last release when the Moto X and the Droids got updated so fast and everyone was blown away by the speed of both Motorola and Verizon it seemed this was a new era in Android updates on their network. But now it seems we are seeing the reality. Not as much about Turbo getting 5.x so late, I think there were some bugs that would have impacted the user experience so I understand why they waited for 5.1. But nothing else seems to be getting Lollipop, not last years Droids, not the 2013 Moto X. So will the Turbo get the next version of Android? At least with a Nexus you have developers on board that enjoy getting Android to run no matter how old the hardware. Thats what really gets me.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhouse1983:
The reason turbo is not on lollipop is because it wasn't a stable release. This phone will get updates up to 2 years past its release date. Yes the nexus is tempting to me as well. Were in the same boat with edge, etc. When we get 5.1 which I feel is very soon we'll all be glad they waited. And if you think about it the turbo might be the only phone jumping from 4.4.4 to 5.1 as all the others tried 5.0 - 5.0.2 and have had issues. The next version of android will have a better update system I believe as it may not be as big of a jump. The turbo has the specs to keep up for its lifespan and will definitely get plenty of updates. Not to mention the 2013 models weren't exactly easy with the custom core/chips it got so its made it tougher for lollipop to run. And they really only had midrange specs whereas the turbo has top of the line specs (for now). Much more premium device than the droid maxx or moto x 2013. And when we get it I bet most turbo users won't complain one bit about not having a nexus. At least I won't. And I don't even feel I need root especially since xposed won't run on 5.1.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Character Zero:
Yes I agree. I am not unhappy that we are still waiting for Lollipop. 5.1 just makes sense with the VoLTE support and stability. And I also think maybe I should wait until 5.1 drops, and see if I still have that temptation.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheBiles:
The Nexus 6 can't hold a candle to the Turbo's battery. I never realized how nice it was to have a phone that didn't need to be charged half-way though the day. With my M8 I'd get maybe 2 hours of screen-on time, and it would end up on the charger after 8 hours of use, which was a huge pain in the ass. I never have to even think twice about charging the Turbo, even following a full day's use.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
Thats a matter of usage. I have the nexus 6 and with 6 hours One screen time i can have the phone last a day and a half.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Character Zero:
Do you have both? Pros/Cons?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
I have the nexus 6 from Motorola.

Pros: Root, BL unlock, Call Quality great, only 2 bloat apps that can be removed, stock android, and lots of development

Cons: Camera does have limited capabilities (Not an issue for me, but for others), slippery back, but nothing a skin can fix. See picture of mine that is below.

For me thats really it. It really depends on what your looking for. If your looking for extra functions like what the note 4 has this may not be the device for you.

The size is big, but I have gotten used to it.

For the Turbo:

Pros: Battery, camera is great,

Cons: No root/unlockable bootloader (yet)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Character Zero:
If you could keep only one phone would it be the N6 or the Turbo?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
After have the N6 since february I would keep that. To me the turbo is just to small now. When I first went to the nexus 6 and held it the first time I was like woah to big, but after using it and getting used to it. I love it.

Root/Unlock is a big one for me. I have the turbo I am holding on to for my fiancee so when he straighttalk plan cancels in august she will be using it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Character Zero:
Thanks you opinion helps.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
To determine net profit from the sale - you have to take into account what you paid for it.

If you can find someone who will trade a N6 for a DT. I really doubt you can find someone who would make that trade.

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I did forget to account for what it would have cost you to buy a 32GB N6 using a subsidized upgrade. That would be $250 + $40 upgrade fee + sales tax (which is charged on both the phone price and the ugprade fee where I live) = $310.

32GB Droid Turbos in mint condition from sellers with good feedback on swappa are going for $425-450. If you got $450 for it, after fees/shipping, that would net $410.

A subsidized 32GB Droid Turbo was $200 if you bought it w/o getting a deal back in the fall, so $200 + $40 upgrade fee + sales tax = $255.

$410 profit from sale - $150 = $155 net profit.

But had you used your upgrade you would have spent $310, so $310 + $155 = $465.

A new 32GB N6 is $650 + tax = $690. So $690 - $465 = $225.

Thus, the cost of the transaction of switching from a 32GB DT to a 32GB N6 is $255 assuming you paid $200 for the droid turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Character Zero:
Went to Verizon ready to pay off the Turbo, get the N6, and then put rhe Turbo up for sale later tonight. I just couldn't do it. The size was too much to overcome. I really wish they had gone with 5 or 5.2 or just a Nexus Turbo. Hopefully the next nexus will not be GSM only and will continue to be on Verizon. I figure in a year or so phones can be pure VoLTE and IIRC Verizon can't keep them off thier network (like the LTE Nexus 7).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bkeaver:
I too am thinking of paying off my turbo and going to the N6. The size isn't what bothers me about the phone, its the price of it that makes me hesitate.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
Get the Moto Maxx.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jaben2:
Well this thread got me thinking the same thing. To the point I just got back from Verizon. Picked up the nexus 6 and said no way. I can't possibly carry something that big around. I passed originally on the lg g3 because of the size increase from the g2.

I would love the freedom of the nexus but can't justify the freedom by carrying around a tablet all day.

Just my thoughts
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Character Zero:
I wish. Not an option on Verizon.

Yeah exactly my experience at the Verizon store just hours ago.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] r3pwn:
Correction: The XT1225 won't work on Verizon, but the XT1250 will (and can be bootloader unlocked).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
From all I have read here, XT1250 works like [MENTION=4732871]r3pwn[/MENTION] said. I forget where you can buy them but there was a thread about it somewhere.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JasonJoel:
I went from a note 4 to nexus 6 to the turbo. The nexus 6 was just too big to be comfortable. I think 5-5.2 is the right size for me.

So each to their own.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
If I didn't carry my phone in my purse, I think it would be too big for me too. I can't imagine having it in a front pocket. I think it would be especially hard in your front pocket if someone had a belly. I mean, where would the phone go when you sat down - it would stick you right in your belly! LOL!

And the hipsters with their skinny jeans, the N6 would bend like an iP6+ I bet!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
I don't tend to like the nexus 6 for its huge size. Camera on it is good but the flash isn't as powerful as the droid turbo, plus the battery isn't as good in stamina like the turbo. What makes people switch and be blinded is because of the lollipop software availability being top notch. But think about it in that the turbo has much more ppi than the nexus at a reduced screen size. The turbo was the highest ppi upon release date and now the s6 beats it with 577 ppi.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Character Zero:
Its funny because it seems with the bigger phones like the Note line and this Nexus you have a lot of people wishing it was smaller. But on the flip side I haven't seen many looking at the S6 or the One and wishing it was bigger. Its a good size. I think around 5-5.2" is the limit for me. I slowly got used to the bigger phone but past the point the size takes over as a annoyance. When I hold the Turbo I rest it on my pinky on the bottom. That provieds some stability. When I was holding the Nexus 6 I could do that. I had to kind of grip it at the middle and it felt it could slip right out easily with one handing operation. When I had the Note 2 I had to use my other hand to steady the phone.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jasoraso:
I went into the T-Mobile store 2 weeks ago to look at the N6 again, on March 12th when they announced the availability of the VZW N6. I got talking with the salesman as he saw me looking at it. Of course, he asked me what phone I had right now - I pulled out my Turbo. He said that he had always wanted that phone, and pulled out his N6. So we traded (the next day - we each took a day to think about it. He wanted to verify that it would work ok on TMobile). His phone is only the 32 gb model.

I'm happy with the N6. I had it rooted that night, and that was the day 5.1 was released, so I never lost my Advanced calling. I'm happy to have my tethering back (quick mod to the build.prop). I don't use root for anything else right now. I haven't downloaded as many cardboard apps (haven't tried the N6 in cardboard yet - I think I'll need to get another version designed for a bigger phone), so I haven't missed the 32gb I lost in the trade. The battery life is definitely not as good on the N6 as the Turbo, feels like a 25% hit.

It is a BIG phone. That has some real benefits, and some downsides. When browsing the internet, reading forums, Twitter, etc, the big screen is great. I had to look up some info on some google sheets > that was great. Putting the phone in my pocket > not so great. I always take it out when I sit down in the car etc now. I used to leave the Turbo in my pocket a bit more often when in the car etc.

I use a BT headset more often than not, so having a big phone for a phone call isn't too big of a deal. I use my moto 360 to initiate phone calls more often than not, so that isn't a big deal.

Overall, I'm happy now with the N6. When I do pick up my wife's or son's Moto X (2014) I can't believe how small they feel in my hand :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jnclocker:
I told you sir. I got the nexus 6 after that stupid volte update. I was so deceived by moto and Verizon , so I moved to T-Mobile and got a nexus6. I have loved every fffing moment with it. Go for it guys you won't regret at all.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] n00b1269:
I wish T-Mobile was in WV
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JasonJoel:
Tmobile is crap in my opinion. I travel a lot, and when I tried it last year I found that the service is horrible in a number of major cities... Forget about it in rural areas...

But whatever. Each to their own.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lazarus2297:
I sold my turbo back in December and bought the N6.. I have not looked back since.. Its huge there's no real getting around that.. But I like being able to flash at will and update when Google releases an update. I would love for it to have been 5.2-5.5 but its not so.. Its hard for me to manage with one hand and there really isn't a good place for me to carry it.. but I wouldn't trade it for a turbo even with the new root method.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
When I pick up my OG Moto X now it feels like a doll toy, lol! But it does feel really good in the hand.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Akrifay:
Looks like ill be jumping ship to the Nexus 6 ... good thing i only paid $1 for my Turbo lol
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Character Zero:
Yeah I made the desicsion and jumped to the N6. Its big, but I am liking it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] theycallmerayj:
I think OP made his decision, but for anyone that is still considering turbo to nexus I just did the same thing and so far I'm glad. With today's news on Droid life about more release dates for lollipop and no mention of the turbo it seems that moto has to be having serious issues with it working. The nexus 6 is big, but I though my turbo was big when I first got it. You just get used to holding it in a way that works. It still feels nice in hand to me. Just my 2 cents.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JasonJoel:
My Nexus 6 is still on the night stand. Tried using it again for a few days last week. It is too big, to the point I kind of think it sucks as a phone/something I carry all the time.

But each to their own.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] n00b1269:
I hope I can get a local trade for a nexus
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
this comment here has got to be either a joke or just plain stupid. You seriously bought a nexus 6 and spent that amount of money and not use it? The size is nothing once u get used to it. The turbo has nothing against the nexus 6.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wynnded:
Geez, easy. I think this is just a Betty/Wilma thing, an expression of personal preference. And maybe he got a swoopy deal, it's his money. :eek:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
I would sell it on swappa.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JasonJoel:
I'm going to sell the nexus 6, just haven't gotten around to it yet. I always keep one backup phone, and I thought I might keep the nexus 6 for that. Instead I'll just hold on to my galaxy s5 for that purpose.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhouse1983:
Where you live? I'm possibly interested in swapping my turbo for the nexus 6
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JasonJoel:
Sorry, it will be cash only. I've already got too many phones (including a turbo) as it is. But that is what swappa or eBay is for.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
Yeah, the N6 is too expensive to keep as a backup. The Verizon Moto X 2013 Dev Ed is my backup device.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] papstar:
Just bought a nexus 6 as I couldn't deal with the turbos bloat anymore. The nexus is way too big, and I already miss my turbo. Think I'm going back.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Couldn't deal with Turbo's bloat...LOL. You are killing me.

I take it you've never truly used a bloated phone?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bkeaver:
Turbo probably has the least amount of bloat on a phone besides a nexus device that I have used.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] krabman:
I'll be curious to see if the rumours about the next device being a 5ish incher come true. I've had several phabs and I haven't been able to make friends with the size. In my mind the bigger the better until its too big, for me I find the Turbo/Maxx size to be perfect, the N6 too big. I didn't personally take a shine to the S6 or M9 so its possible that N5 part 2 might be my next phone.

I have to say I've not made friends with the Moto IR whiz bang stuff and it was one of the reasons I wanted to try the phone. I greatly prefer double tap to wake and better screen off rgb notifications. I find the wave over no easier than double tap and if you are set up to go directly to the GUI when home its very annoying to have to wave over the screen, then slide the lock down for a phone that wasn't locked anyways. Yeah, I know a lot of people love it but it isn't for me.

Bloat? lol You caught me a little off guard with that one too, it doesn't get much less bloaty and trust me when I say I hate to say anything that might be construed as good about Verizon. :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JasonJoel:
I played with an S6 for 15 minutes or so today. Really nice hardware, but I couldn't see going down to a 2550 mAh battery.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhouse1983:
I think I could take a nexus 6 for my turbo but I also think that S6 Edge is super sexy. Makes it seem like a screen with depth. Fishbowl effect. That screen alone for me. But that's it. I can't see any other phone better than the turbo I have. I'm sticking with it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] papstar:
I've used plenty of phones with bloat. I'm on Verizon after all. Thought I wanted a phone I could tinker with but I find myself missing the turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] n00b1269:
Not one person in the Charleston/Huntington area on WV seems to have a nexus. I'm hoping for a local trade badly
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BladeRunner:
Exactly. Moto phones are pretty lite. Pick up a Samsung device then we can talk bloat.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Harry44:
Want to trade, I'll give you cash too. PM me!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Yes, NEXUS 6 is too big. That's why I bought the 5.2", 1440p Snapdragon 805, 3GB RAM, 64GB storage, Qi wireless charging, turbo charging Motorola smartphone that was being tested as a Motorola Nexus 6 variant as late as mid-August 2014.

Google made the wrong decision to go big, dropping the 5.2" version which was then repurposed as the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo/Droid Turbo.

They should have released the 5.2" version as the Nexus 6, or pulled an Apple and release two variants (iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus). I guarantee you the 5.2" Nexus 6 variant would have been much more popular than the larger size.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gabo_e30:
It would've conflicted too much with the moto x 2014, and taken even more take away from Moto's flagship. At the end of the day the moto x is regarded by moto as their flagship even though the turbo has better specs, BC it's available in more places/ carriers.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] n00b1269:
The nexus six size is perfect
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Yeah if you want a small tablet.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] n00b1269:
As soon as I can find a local trade for my turbo I'm going to take it. I loved the n6
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JasonJoel:
Each to their own. There is no one right answer on something like screen size.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChristianJay:
Agreed the Turbo would have made a sweet Nexus.

That said, I read a lot on my phone (Aldiko, GPB, Kindle) and the screen size on the Nexus6 is great for that. I don't mind the size, kind of big in the car mount though, could be dangerous, Lol.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
They basically have the same specs. So, go with the one that fits in your hand more comfortably.

Personally, the 2014 5.5" LG G3 (which has a smaller overall frame than the 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus) is the biggest "phone" I can handle comfortably. You can see how it compares to the Nexus 6 below.

The QUARK phones -- Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo/Droid Turbo -- are actually pretty big for a 5.2" phone. Bigger frame than the 2013 5.2" LG G2... But still smaller than the 5.5" LG G3 (which is my absolute limit).

The Nexus 6 is just too big. Until now, Google went mainstream with their phone sizes, and mainstream is 5.1 - 5.5".

5.96" display is well out of mainstream. If Google had wanted to experiment, they should have released two variants. We KNOW they were testing a 5.2", 1440p, Snapdragon 805, 3GB RAM Shamu variant as late as mid-August. Benchmarks were leaked. It was battling with the too-big to believe 5.96" Shamu whose benchmarks were also leaked. I personally thought the 6" version was a joke Google was trying to pull, to throw us off from the REAL gen6 Nexus which would be the mainstream size. You know, the way they fooled us with "Key Lime Pie" even in internal names, when it was REALLY KitKat. :rolleyes:

Guess the joke is on us. So, for the first time in 3 years, I did not buy a Nexus phone. Went with the repurposed prototype which showed up as the Quark. It's MY Nexus 6.

This year, Google is going back to LG again. Let's see if they give us a 5.3" - 5.5" Nexus phone, with slim LG bezels.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
I don't think this is true. Motorola has the exclusive Droid contract with Verizon and this phone was always going to be the Verizon Droid for 2014, not a Nexus device. They simply released it w/o the Droid branding, which is exclusive to Verizon, for use on other carriers. It was never intended to be a Nexus device.