yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] harrio:
first i want to reply to JZEE in reference to my getting my upgrade from onthegosolutions, after going around and around with club imate receiving so many different stories on an upgrade,i became frustrated and started seeking on-line assistance if possible, i did'nt want to be here with such an expensive unit yet was'nt upgradable. i never knew ANYTHING about this xda developers until recently, no way would i have shipped my jasjar to a company had i known of what xda was all about or even existed.as far as club imate is concerned, i was'nt expecting anything positive from them anyway since the beginning i've not received nothing from them but conflicting information so i don't deal with them at all, and i'm sorry you feel it was ignorance on my behalf, now that i'm here with the xda family i now know what to search and ask for. as for the VIDEO section i was asked about, NO there was no video section there which i did have on the wm-5 phone section. i don't have the screen rotation icon either so these items i'm doing without, other than that, the unit functions just fine and i am pleased with what i have at this point and time, to me its a step forward i was seeking from the creators of this unit and never got any customer satisfaction. even if i had come accross xda during this time i had no knowledge of doing a rom installation on my own in fear of screwing something up, so i'd have to get someone with tech knowledge to do this for me anyways which i don't mind. so again i'm sorry for this so called ignorance and now that i am with xda i now know whatever i need to know i can come here.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] harrio:
psiDoc, thank you so very much for your compassion,understanding and your message, i did'nt know about xda until recently and of course i would have come here for what help i required, but some folks are just out to tear up and rip an individual apart and consider them a bit on the ignorant side simply because i did what i did, well its done,i'm satisfied and not sorry that its done. to answer your question, no i no longer have this video section which was on the phone area when i had the wm-5. also i'm missing the screen rotation screen icon, so these 2 items i can live without tho i'd like to have the video calling but hey man its not there so maybe i can either find a software to regain this or just maybe someone here thats a software expert can create a video software for the jasjar, i'll wait to see since by god i don't want to make another purchase and become xda's voice of ignorance, have a good one. and again, thank you.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] JZEE:
First of all, please excuse me if I was a bit OTT but I was really annoyed at these onthegosolutions rather than the OP. I think it's unacceptable that you have people literally exploiting other people's work for the financial gain especially in this case where we don't have the support from MS, HTC and iMate and rely on the guys over here.

In any case, hope you'll find your stay here informative to help you avoid these scum in the future.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] harrio:
i e-mailed dovid feldman of onthegosolutions and told him i now know where he obtained this jasjar upgrade from and that it was so sinful of them to financially benefit from something thats freely given out to xda members who ask for no more than a simple donation for their efforts. no longer will i mention this companies name now that i know what routes they've taken to free-load. i do appreciate your message to me tho a bit harsh, it was an understandable message, have a good day[/B]
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] harrio:
I'd like to know , is there a wm-6 rom available for my imate jasjar that will have the video call as the wm-5 did, also the screen rotation icon, the acceptance of a SDHC card rather than the standard sd card. i am the one who had my jasjar upgraded by a company thats exploiting the hard work of those thats here in xda with tech knowledge, so i now wish to change my rom if possible in hopes to obtain something even better here at xda and having the satisfaction of knowing i got whats inside my jasjar from an HONEST source, if theres a better wm-6 rom out there bearing the mentioned, please let me know and i do want to fully apoligize to the xda community for my lack of knowledge of the existance of xda and my paying a company whos exploiting the labors of those thats here.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] mo3ulla:
i read this theme and i dot 1 question ... harrio are you blonde?

videocall not work on all // in your creation same thing

sdhc work on all new roms /// at least on mine normal

screen rotation - exist on some // i am not use this
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] harrio:
mo3ulla, are you being cute,funny or just plain out and out on the ignorant side, what i did ,i did and its now in the past so hey man, get a life and move on with the times. as far as me being blonde has no bearing on whats happening here at all, so stop being stupid and looking for obvious attention
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] tansoftware:
Come on !!!

Seriously, you sound like a bunch of kids !!!

Your wasting our time and thread space while showing off your egos in the wrong place.

GROW UP !!!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] TehPenguin:
@harrio: Can you please stop putting everything you say in bold? No offence, but it hurts my eyes to read it

@everyone: It looks like we have another case of someone selling free pre-release software. If you live in the country where this "onTheGoSolutions" is based (the US I believe), then I recommend you contact the authorities (or whatever fair-trade or consumer protection agency) and report this to them
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] hardeep:
ROM Stories

To Harrio, i hope this helps you.

WM6 Advantages (most of the ROMs here)

- better interface, icons

- improved speed

- stable (some of the ROMs are, especially Jwrights & Ranjus latest)

- powerful search function

WM6 Disadvantages

- no videocall

- WiFI unstable for certain configurations

- certain ROMs have SYNC issues especially notes (Ranju's works perfectly)

- camera response is quite slow and some have memory buffer issues

WM5 Advantages (T-Mobile Official AKU3.3, get the latest release on January 2008)

- stable

- all the functions are working and utilized 100%

- good speed (similar to WM6)

- supports SDHC (I tested with 4GB SDHC card)

WM5 Disadvantages

- lacking on the GUI

My verdict

If you want better GUI, go for my favourite Ranju's v5.1 (I have not tested v6 yet), its a very well designed ROM.

If you want full functionality, go for T-Mobile Official AKU3.3 WM5 ROM (January 2008 released), i am using it currently as to support for Video Calling.

Otherwise, TRIAL & ERROR, find the one that suits you. Or you may help the developers by flashing their ROM and provide FEEDBACK to them, to let the grow and improve.

Thats it.

The keyword, spend some time in the Forums here, flashing, and patience, you may love your UNI even more...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] harrio:
@Teh Penguin, sorry about the bold print man, on this on the go solutions thing, i did e-mail them informing them as to what i've learned here at xda, and to date never received an answer, the individual there is a dovid feldman who charges $70.00 plus to and fro shipping which all charges come to over a hundred u.s. dollars. i did contact our better business bureau on this matter and was told they will look into this if in fact it can be proven this company did in fact obtain this rom information from this particular site. also, to your knowledge, is there a specific download to regain my lost screen orientation icon. my video call as well was lost when these folks updated my jasjar.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] harrio:
bdigitalstudio, appreciate your sharing this information with me, however, how were you able to get a SDHC card to possibly work with wm-5, when my jasjar was of the wm-5 status i was told it would work with this SDHC and i went on-line to kingston and purchased their class-6 SDHC card and the unit would not reconize it, so after the upgrade to the wm-6, it still won't see the card, so i now have a $60.00 kingston SDHC card just there doing nothing. so i went and purchased a transcend 4gb SD card which it does see and is working. i thought with the wm-6 i could use such a card. again, thanks for the shared information.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] hardeep:
To Harrio

This is the link for the best WM5 ROM you can find,

Better read the wiki on how to flash this, the information is available there...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=356760&highlight=t-mobile

This WM5 will support SDHC card (proven with Sandisk Ultra II 4GB SDHC card), but you need to run the SDHC cab (modified version) in the windows folder of your device... other SDHC cab wont work properly...

Most of the WM6 shall support SDHC, if not look for the SDHC cab in this forum. Some ROMs still have issue but by installing this cab it shall work fine... just transfer the cab to your device using ActiveSync Explorer.. then run it from you device...

Use the SEARCH function, and you shall prevail... :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] PsiDOC:
I knew I had it somewhere, just needed to find it amongst the other mountain of "might come in handy" files.

The HTC Homeplug. Has screen rotation and a few other handy things to your screen.

Download, and extract the zip file. Upload the .cab file to your SD Card and the on the Exec double tap the .cab file to install. It'll reset the exec when it's done.

Psi
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] harrio:
PsiDOC, thanks so much for sharing this down load information with me, however, my being quite new to all this extracting,uploading and cab files, i need you to sorta guide me here a bit, do i save this file to my documents on my desktop then cut and paste it to my sd card section on my jasjar, appreciate your tech help on this.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] thenext1:
EDIT: wrong topic!

sorry
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] dovid:
i-mate Jasjar WM6.0

B"H

Hi,

This is Dovid Feldman from On The Go Solutions, Inc.

I think many of your comments on XDA developers are really rude. I'm a member for as long as many of you (Nov, 2006), and have participated in the forum just like you.

1) The ROM for the Jasjar that I provide on my website, I paid for. I had a client who needed units with the advanced media player. I contacted a WM developer who provided me a version of the ROM for a fee. I paid for it. I didn't ask him which websites he goes to to get information. Do all of you report every site you attend? I don't think so.

2) I donate to this site, unlike many of you.

3) I don't sell ROMS. I charge for installing them (45 minutes of my time), and the risk I take for not bricking somebody's phone. If that happens I have to replace it. To my customers, it's worth $75.00. Many of my customers, including Harrio, are happy to pay somebody for their time, effort and risk to upgrade their phones.

What bothers me is that you critisize me w/out even discussing it with me first.

I don't commercially benefit from this site without paying for it. Do you?

Currently, I'm offering an upgrade ROM to the TyTN II: The OTG KAISER. I paid for it. It is my version, my build. It's licensed from Microsoft. It is from an independent developer who I've paid to build for me. I have no idea where he got all his skills. He is using Platform Builder, and created a ROM for me from the ground up.

We include ADOBE FLASH, LE. Does that me "I'm commercially benefiting from ADOBE"?? It's posted for free, just like most of the "crap" that's on this site.

Also, I'm working with the SHIFT team on XDA-Developers to get them units at near (or below) cost. I've offered several times to supply low cost units for the CRUISE team, etc.

I use this forum, and pay for it.

Do you?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Olipro:
Oh really? that's wildly different from the story you told me, also, I'd like to take the time to let you know you really should read my last reply, since you told me something that you really shouldn't have.

this site is ****ing loaded, **** 'em.

Oh dear, you've gone and put your foot in it now.

nope, the amount they make from the store, ad revenue and suckers donating is criminal.

Do continue with your commetary though, I'm enjoying the hilarious feigned knowledge and self-importance.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] tomal:
Hmmmmmm, very interesting!

Do you (yourself) believe this story?!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] bigjezza:
What a rort.

Dovid, do you tell your customers that your precedure VOIDS THE WARRANTY!

As for the new phones, is it really licensed? Is Office licensed? Is Voice Command licensed?

piracy@microsoft.com

piracy@microsoft.com

piracy@microsoft.com
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] TehPenguin:
So, in other words, he gave you an illegitimate ROM?

Otherwise he'd say he got the source from Microsoft and then hired <insert company here> to write drivers

Also, try as I might, I can't find you on the Microsoft Partner's site: https://solutionfinder.microsoft.com/

And I'd rather pay for someone to supply and install a custom ROM if they were Microsoft certified (no offense)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Jwrightmcps:
I was the one that built that UNI ROM for OTG last year!

Hello All,

Sorry for the vow of silence, but have been too busy...

Anyway, I was recently alerted that some things were being said about a ROM that I had built and provided...

I did this for OTG since I know Dovid well (since 2004) and he just wanted to provide his customers free upgrade support for out-of-date devices, which the OEM (HTC) had forgot all about leaving many with out-dated devices simply due to software! He had no intention of profiting from the update nor wishes to even now. He just wants his customers to get the most out of their devices!

It really makes me feel just awful seeing that he is getting a bunch of grief over this now, especially when he has always tried to be helpful by providing me and others with devices and equipment for little or no cost, which has really helped people like me make advancements over the years.

Below is just an example to give you all an ideal of OTG's past importance to our community:

When I first started working on the UNI to get A2DP to work (YES I WAS THE FIRST), I really needed an headset to test with and funds were tight, so I contacted Dovid and explained my task and hardware needs, without hesitation he sent me the Motorola HT820 and Parrot CK3100 to test with free of charge (not even shipping charges!). Which I used to quickly complete my task of enabling A2DP for the UNI. (original thread here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=259389) Now just think how much longer it could have taken if I had to wait to purchase the equipment!

So while some of you think may think he is "taking" from the community, he has actually given to the community directly and in-directly, by providing equipment, support and donations. Not to mention he is a HUGE fan of windows mobile devices and is completely dedicated to enhancing the mobile experience.

IMO OTG is just trying to do what the OEMs wont, provide devices with software updates. Isn't that what our whole community was built on? So why bash someone else that has nothing but the same desire?

Take care,

Jwrightmcps

P.S. Can I please request that people stop with the bad language, I really hate seeing so many undesirable words being used in our community. Also now that I am here I also going though all my pm’s and will be getting back to everyone, sorry for the delays :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] EvilJogga:
Quite an interesting discussion going on... ;)

I'm rather new to the site and don't know what went on with "giving to the community" and all that stuff.

But concerning dovid's posting I wonder about some things and would appreciate a comment on that from dovid himself.

You say you don't sell ROMs, you just do the updates and get paid for the work and the risks. From a legal point of view that descriptions fine.

But charging 75$ for that seems a little bit high. Are you really sitting 45 minutes in front of the device during the upgrade? Aren't you just starting it and do something better with your time than staring at the screen, just to come back some time later thus reducing the time spent for updating a device to somewhere around five minutes?

It is absolutely right that anyone taking your offer knows about the price and wasn't forced to do so.

But I can't help the feeling that such an offer is out for those idiots that just don't know better and pay because that all looks more official. I wouldn't have problems with that, who's too dumb or lazy to look around doesn't deserve better, but how does that fit with your talk of not benefiting commercially?

Also, do you mention anywhere on your site that the exact same update can be made at home with proper knowledge?

Don't get me wrong with asking this, but your posting seems really pretentious to me and before I take someone for an <insert bad word> I ask again. I wouldn't be surprised if your posting was influenced by an intense feeling of "being pissed" and concerning the rude language and the big talk about someone without giving him the possibility to explain himself you are right with that.

If I were you, I'd also talk to a good lawyer concerning these things with having paid for ROMs and therefore being allowed to distribute those. I do not know what the american law thinks about it, but too me this sure looks being on the line to commercial software piracy.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] comla:
y en español?

Habra o no al final wm6?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] LTxda:
Jwrightmcps,

Are you able to get with our team and confirm the "signatures" of the SPL used? As soon as this is done we can move on and put things behind us. For now I'm staying out of any discussion as the only thing that concerns me and the team is the question of the SPL. Anything else doesn't really matter as we don't have any involvement. We need to get back with Olipro, an esteemed member of the team, and put his mind at rest. Dovid has been very cooperative with our team, has taken great lengths to provide us with information in attempts to answer our questions but it's going to come down to developer with developer so we can put this behind us. Of course, if the code was used, an agreement can be sought...Olipro is not unreasonable. Please contact Olipro or myself so we can move forward. Once this has been resolved, I will personally speak to the community. I know, after talking to Dovid myself, that he's a reasonable business man and doesn't wish harm to the community. Hell, I'm a business man myself and if he's charging $75 to flash a customer ROM, etc for his customers, good for him. Not everyone is as informed as we are. Again, the fact that he's charging his customers or what he's doing with devices he's selling is none of my business. What We're concerned with is the SPL. Kindly awaiting your response.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] cmonex:
OK then i'm going to send a PM that failed to send over email. thanks.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] pitlon:
HI,

I have the Qtek9000 and i'm still using the WM5, as i anderstand you have the qtek9000 also please let me know what is the latest updates revisions that you have (ROM, Radio ...).

Thanks,
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] LTxda:
Jwrightmcps,

I know you're probably busy but I haven't heard anything from you in regards to this. I would like to bring closure to the issue. If we don't hear back from you by Monday, we're going to take an OTG Kaiser and dump the SPL and do further testing ourselves then what Olipro does with the results is his own business. Just a heads up as I want to be fair about the situation and I really hope this is all just a misunderstanding that we can all laugh about and forget.

EDIT: I hear that you've been under the weather recently. That's most likely why we haven't gotten a response. Please see if you can take the time to respond once you're feeling better. We hope you get well soon.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] dovid:
SPL, Universal, Steps Forward

B"H

Hi guys,

I think that some issues are being confused here:

1. This particular area of the forum is for the HTC Universal, and the thread (till now) really had nothing to do with Olipro, SPLs, etc. Regarding the WM6.0 on the Universal, we have stopped selling the Jasjars w/WM 6.0 pre-installed for numerous reasons, primarily because i-mate asked me to stop. Also, there are practically no more left for sale in the world (I still have 5 of them). However, I personally believe Jason's words (since he built me the ROM) should be the "last say" regarding this, and I'm not really going to spend more time on this issue. The world has moved beyond the "htc universal", and so should we.

2. Regarding Olipro & the SPL, we have again stopped selling those units for other licensing issues. We are certified Windows CE 6.0 (w/platform builder) developers/resellers, and we distribute the little grey WM stickers with each unit sold so our devices are fully Microsoft licensed. However, since we are including things like Skype, Adobe, etc, we want to get permission (in writing) from those companies first. Once that is resolved, we will either revisit the hardSPL issue with Olipro or like I mentioned, build one ourselves -- I'm sure we will work it out. Olipro is welcome to dump the rom if he wants. Or, if he really wants, I can send him a free copy :).

3. Regarding the SHIFT, I'd be happy to work with your team, as mentioned, with the issues I mentioned to you privately being addressed.

Finally, if you don't mind, lets take this conversation "off line". We don't need to "air our dirty laundry" in front of the entire community, where everything we say can and will be used against us, on both sides. If Olipro wants to discuss it with me further, he may. This forum, after all, isn't about us, but rather building better devices.

-Dovid
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] raskell:
B''H

Dovid - Well said (in my view). This issue is dead regarding the JasJar for certain. Nice to know that you still have five units for sale with wm5 for anyone wanting to hold on to the past a little while longer ;)

I have personally purchased most of my devices through OnTheGo Solutions and I have never been disappointed. To the contrary, I have been among the 'first' in the USA to to acquire several of my devices (including my QTEK 9000 aka Uni) which I upgraded to WM6 for FREE. My thanks go to this community and your ftp site for an earliest possible release of JWrightcmps's first wm6 ROM which worked remarkably good for me.

I do hope there is a future for device distributors like your company teaming up with the community at the earliest possible release dates for new emerging devices. As you have stated, it can only be for the enhancement of all of our devices to do so.