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[Xperia Z1 General] Nhannt1409:
You made me sad bro...
[Xperia Z1 General] hasn4179:
well, lets hope your words are true :p

i wont be updating to lollipop right away, dont want to lose so much goodies like slo-mo etc, unless they are already in the update...
[Xperia Z1 General] BlAckXpeRia:
If you are not excited about the new update, what are you doing in this thread? Spamming, hating? And I think you are the one who is "b*tchin" in here and crying for attention! :mad:

P.S. Sorry for the offtopic. :)
[Xperia Z1 General] t1mman:
I am excited, and I am waiting for some real news, like the one from the Xperia Blog.

But the speculation about "when" it will be available, the "statement" that it could be in "half a year" is just being "winney", bashing at sony for those speculation is just being a brat.

Stop telling non-sense, stop speculating, wait for tangible news and post news, not speculation.
[Xperia Z1 General] NexusGTS:
Maybe lollipop for z1 next week :rolleyes:
[Xperia Z1 General] BlAckXpeRia:
The half-year one is an obvious sarcasm (it makes fun of Sony's SLOW and minor updates). Your post's meaning was very clear- you called everyone who is blaming Sony for the slow updates a "little crybaby". Why? Because all the other major companies like HTC, Samsung and even small ones have released Lollipop. And we are still waiting... And for what? The brutally removed Camera2 API? I have had 3 xperia phones so far and it is always the same - releasing the device and forgetting about it! I don't even know why I still buy them(maybe because of the beautiful design and hardware).

[MENTION=3453812][Fenix][/MENTION]

I really hope that is true. It looks legit. :)
[Xperia Z1 General] t1mman:
If the "quick release" is that important to you, stick to Nexus.

I had an LG OG (first one), I'm not even sure it has the KitKat...

I'm not even sure the Galaxy S4 (which was released around the same time as the Z1) is available wordwide.

Same goes for the HTC One M7 (site says "The HTC Eye Experience for this device is currently in the Development stage.")

The LG G2 is in the "waiting" period, with nothing confirmed.

Please tel me which device comparable to the Z1 are runing lollipop already, I can't seem to find them...
[Xperia Z1 General] :
Can't we all just be patient for its release? I mean it's gonna come out sooner or later.
[Xperia Z1 General] BlAckXpeRia:
I can't get nexus because the camera is garbage and the new Nexus 6 is too expensive.

Examples of devices with lollipop:

Nexus 5,6,9(+Camera2 API) , Samsung Galaxy S4 , HTC One M8,M9(+Camera2 API) ... and Sony rolled the z2,z3 updates with a big delay again.
[Xperia Z1 General] t1mman:
Nexus are "initial release", you can't expect any company to be as quick as google... Most of the others are not released globally or are newer devices.

I don't know what you consider a "big delay", but Lollipop has been released in november. As of today, it hasn't been 6 months since the inital release of lollipop. I would consider a 6 months "delay" for a newer device (like the Z3) to be still within an acceptable delay. Considering the different factors, the changes in hardware, the addition of the "layer" by the company. Anything within the 6 months is more than acceptable. And I'm talking about the "latest flagship", not the "older devices.

That being said, 5.0 has already been announced by sony, it will be available within maybe 1 or 2 weeks. You should go out, take a deep breath of fresh air and chill out a little. Ain't no one dying because it's not released in the next day or so.

If it is not released before the end of the april, maybe (just maybe) you can say their is a "big delay". But before that, honesly, that's realy just being a "brat".

And sory if I offend you, I don't intend to. But that's what a call a kid trowing a tantrum... When I read those type of replay, I can only see this in my head:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-G1sY_XWu0
[Xperia Z1 General] BLiapis:
Anyone knows what goods the new firmware brings? is it worth upgrading from the old firmware to the new one. If its basically a reskin, might find me unwilling reinstalling the new OS.
[Xperia Z1 General] silentmax24:
the biggest difference as long as i know is the runtime, in lollipop we'll have a new one called "art" while in kitkat it was called "dalvik", on a stable phone like z1 with the new runtime i guess there won't be that much of a difference but still should be a little better. then some more minor things, like more users "like in windows u can put a guest user with limited acces".
[Xperia Z1 General] Fekajo:
Sony troll ?

https://www.facebook.com/sonymobile...35313373389/10153193001398390/?type=1&theater

What is "Xperia Z series" ?

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/03...ct-and-xperia-z3-tablet-compact/?rl=global-en

Nothing about Z1 :(
[Xperia Z1 General] BLiapis:
Well the article states that Z3 comes first then Z2. Then that T2 and i guess afterwards its going to be our Z1.?
[Xperia Z1 General] KWOKSFUNG:
As I heard the biggest improvement is performance, but battery would be worse.

I really wont be satisfied if that's all. I hope at least some Z2/Z3 audio effect. Z1 doesnt have a lot of new features added-on after the phone is released right? Dont give me ultra stamina and say new feature bro COZ I REALLY DONT CARE ABOUT THAT :laugh: :laugh:

For us more advanced android users, I already see people on Z2 and Z3 have problem in lots of stuff. Like a working recovery, installing busybox, etc. Though I believe our lovely developers will get them solved after some time.

Em... that should be given with kitkat actually, sony removed it.
[Xperia Z1 General] yoorie016:
Z series are the flagship of sony. Z1,2 & 3.

Thats not a troll bro, its actually the real thing. Lollipop will be release, i think, any dates from April 1-3. I just counted the dates from the certification of PTRCB to the release of lollipop. Well i hope i am right, but still waiting for the real news. :)
[Xperia Z1 General] thunderising:
[MENTION=2784807]DooMLoRD[/MENTION] you got any news?
[Xperia Z1 General] ast9011:
Android lollipop for Xperia Z1 14.5.A.0.242 now rolling.

Waiting for this news! :D
[Xperia Z1 General] goldsmit409:
As in did it start?

Any source?
[Xperia Z1 General] Papanik:
I just checked with XperiFirm (don't know if it is the right way to check - I'm on CM12) but I didn't find anything.
[Xperia Z1 General] silentmax24:
he meant he's waiting for the news "lollipop is rolling", but it's not out yet. Tomorrow is 1 april by the way, i think we'll get android 5.1 or even 6!!! :D
[Xperia Z1 General] goldsmit409:
Oh well, back to waiting mode again.
[Xperia Z1 General] alifseven7:
Even if Lollipop release tomorrow, i might have trust issue because April 1st. :laugh:
[Xperia Z1 General] protick26:
we'll get lolipop everyday in the market but not from sony...! :@
[Xperia Z1 General] electrash:
14.X this number 14 is related to phone (Z1) and will stay like this forever, as for Z3 is 23. Almost every phone from Sony has his starting number unique.

A means its global firmware IE its not "verizon" variant or something simillar.

Thought your phone might be carrier locked as mine on Tmobile Croatia, it still carry A version.

Only verizon and couple of other networks has letters like C, B.
[Xperia Z1 General] gbil:
I've only seen it once to drastically change and that is with Z2's kitkat which got synchronized with Z3's major version.

BTW testing for Z devices starts in a few weeks, so 1+ month probably until release.

For Z1 release is imminent as there are not indications for another test version.
[Xperia Z1 General] TheEndHK:
I think it will be the last official major update for Z1 but we have enough devs to port 5.1, 5.2, 5.3 from Z2/Z3 in the future so no worry.
[Xperia Z1 General] wiedz:
There you go..
[Xperia Z1 General] Rustam132:
What does it mean?
[Xperia Z1 General] t1mman:
Means most likely in the next 2 weeks.
[Xperia Z1 General] KWOKSFUNG:
hell, z2 is even already out = =""
[Xperia Z1 General] session20:
Yes, it was for Nordics and Baltics. Next week Z2 Global rollout then again comes the next week for Z1 which would be limited for some region (Not a Global rollout) and then Next Week it should be Z1 Global rollout.

Means expect the update.... Starting April 20!:(
[Xperia Z1 General] DorianX:
Guys why don't you just wait for the update?
[Xperia Z1 General] swagie:
Sony twitterd today:

[MENTION=1966065]ricote[/MENTION]ngg Z1 & Ultra users, we hear you re: #Lollipop. Z2 is next week & you're next up. We'll update here as soon as it’s rolling out

From: [MENTION=5448027]SonyMobile[/MENTION]News on Twitter.

Hope this helps the waiting ;)
[Xperia Z1 General] albertobom:
If it's delayed please updated to 5.1 already.
[Xperia Z1 General] KWOKSFUNG:
well, we can use flashtool if it's 6903 version.

hope limited region better than none at all
[Xperia Z1 General] CappyT:
It's good even if it's C6902, still easier to port out.

Also, keep calm, lollipop is already here and you can try it on custom roms, where really talented developers showed the world that we don't need sony to keep our devices great and up to date.

Also, CM12 is topped with daily-usable state. Awesome work!

A huge thanks to all the Z1 section, which I believed dead, but proved me I'm wrong.

Also, waiting with all of you =D
[Xperia Z1 General] yoorie016:
and once the camera is fixed for ASOP, it will be an awesome ROM than stock!
[Xperia Z1 General] Gladwin_Prince:
I Think Sony is probably trying to fix most bugs before release, with this regional release of an update followed by the Global Rollout, So, They can know about the Bugs present in the release from the regional users. Then, Fix all they can and do a Global Rollout.
[Xperia Z1 General] diehardro:
And I think they're a bunch of liars, not that they're trying to fix bugs. But that's just me.
[Xperia Z1 General] Lord Takyon:
Lol [MENTION=5350155]diehardro[/MENTION] they are deliberately holding it back to annoy you.
[Xperia Z1 General] diehardro:
Not just me. :laugh:
[Xperia Z1 General] mgh1982:
It's out guys. Where have you been!!???
[Xperia Z1 General] diehardro:
Yeah, it's out for Z3 and Z2. And not for all regions.. And stop making fun, we know that today is April 1st. :p
[Xperia Z1 General] mo120697:
Up to now i loved sony! design software and support were very well and great. But the delay with the lollipop update is very very bad. Sony will loose a lot customers, lollipop was released november 2014 and cyanogenmod has a working rom base since 3 months now for our honami.

Also z1 z2 and z3 are all rhine based so the different versions are not very complicated.

In fact sony wont tell us when we get the update, because every message from sony is "soon" and "in the next weeks".

So to all of you: dont expect update till may.

best regards, Mo:)
[Xperia Z1 General] matiqi:
Z3 and z2 been out for a while in nordic countries, so yes I'm expecting it in few weeks

Lähetetty minun C6903 laitteesta Tapatalkilla
[Xperia Z1 General] t1mman:
Even if it's ready as we speak, they won't release it for every devices at once juste to keep the servers/connections from being overloaded.

6 months delay is plenty acceptable for a device released about 18 months ago.
[Xperia Z1 General] diehardro:
Yes, it is, but that way we won't get Android 5.1. And I'm 90% sure that we won't. Although, there's hope. :)
[Xperia Z1 General] trahzebuck:
Here's a short video from Sony showing what we will get:
[Xperia Z1 General] mo120697:
we will get 5.1 i think.

A member of XperiaBlog posted there this screenshot: https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1893/5513/original.jpg?w=600&h
[Xperia Z1 General] noahvt:
If I visit the sonymobile page for the Z1 and the Z1C, both of them say: next version: android 5.0(lollipop) and not 5.1
[Xperia Z1 General] diehardro:
When, yesterday? On April 1st? :p
[Xperia Z1 General] session20:
Someone posted this image from Z ultra in comments on Xperia Blog site. How is that possible :confused:
[Xperia Z1 General] palkia171993:
Photoshop for April Fool maybe :D Though I do hope it's true or something like they release to some users for limited testing like how they did with Z3 :p
[Xperia Z1 General] mo120697:
no thought the same, but was 31.03 :D
[Xperia Z1 General] gbil:
Dev units had the upgrade also via OTA. As already stated the update is tested a couple of weeks now.
[Xperia Z1 General] Anonymuszymus:
if the date is Mar 25 why we dont have it already? please someone explain me whats going on now cause im confused...
[Xperia Z1 General] yoorie016:
It is just the certification from the PTCRB, not the actual release pf the update.
[Xperia Z1 General] cadicuce:
Some new

http://smartphones.sfr.fr/android/le-sony-xperia-z1-sfr-passe-sous-lollipop/

coming soon with SI number 1276-5845 :D
[Xperia Z1 General] KWOKSFUNG:
I care about hi-res and desshx more.....
[Xperia Z1 General] mischa_martin:
You wont get any of Z3/Z2s features even if they are pretty easy for sony to port. (Almost same chipset across the 3 devices)

Its simple marketing... :D

Mischa_Martin
[Xperia Z1 General] jontr:
Not so simple "marketing"

To be honest, as a customer, I'll buy rather a top of the range phone from a company that adds with the updates new features from newer models if available, than a phone from a company that leaves their flagship workout any support after the release. I don't think there are many people or there that but brand new flagships every year, but I very there's a lot of people that bit new phone every 2, maybe 3 years. I have Z1 for almost 2 years now. Of Sony provides some extra features that I know for the fact work on my phone (120fps movies recording, 4k) then my next phone will be for sure Sony as well. If they don't, I'll look around for another brand before even considering buying new Z4.
[Xperia Z1 General] jos_031:
Changelog

Update Android 4.4.4 to 5.0.2 (Lollipop)

Locking and notification Screen: New Lollipop interface with enhanced privacy features.

Recent Applications: carousel Support

Adding the search function in the Settings menu

Improved security and stability of the system

Notifications improved through a "priority" mode to receive the most important notifications only

New virtual machine (ART)

New User Interface "material design"

Android multitasking system review

Optimization of battery performance through better management of resources for application use

User data encrypted by default

Improved graphics performance

Multi-user mode (connection with their Google Account or as a guest)

Supports POP / IMAP accounts in Gmail

Storage optimization; Moving apps to SD card
[Xperia Z1 General] KWOKSFUNG:
Well that's actually why i hate sony sometimes. They dont know how to add real new features so they keep making the same phone with different name and different software update

f**k sony
[Xperia Z1 General] Snaqejack:
Well, if you want new features you kinda have to buy the new stuff.

This is nothing unique to Sony so stop *****ing like Sony is the devil.

Why would they at features to an old phone and potentially miss out on a sale on a new phone?
[Xperia Z1 General] jonke11:
Checking for update twice a day :(
[Xperia Z1 General] -Happy Feet-:
Guys, Next week the Updates comes out. Keep calm and be Happy
[Xperia Z1 General] kk47042:
I hope so, but i'm afraid we will have to wait longe. If next week is Z2, then z1 could be the week after.
[Xperia Z1 General] KWOKSFUNG:
Pretty off topic, but they are not adding significantly different hardware stuff except the dual speaker since Z1, and trying to differentiate phones just with software.

I explained pretty much in the link below.

http://xdaforums.com/xperia-z1/general/feel-time-sony-phones-aint-amazed-t3048972
[Xperia Z1 General] -Happy Feet-:
No Z2 and Z1 are in the same week.
[Xperia Z1 General] KWOKSFUNG:
What if i tell u Z2 lollipop is already released.....
[Xperia Z1 General] -Happy Feet-:
Okay then Z1 in this week.
[Xperia Z1 General] NetSkill:
If they keep the old UI i will throw my z1 out of window and tweet a video on sonymobile
[Xperia Z1 General] eraldopaes:
Its obvious!
[Xperia Z1 General] KWOKSFUNG:
But it was released like ttwo weeks ago :(
[Xperia Z1 General] session20:
Updates seems this way as per their Twitter.

Starting Monday 6 April, Z2 will receive the Global rollout of the Lollipop update. Then after next week, starting Monday 13 April, Z1 will start to receive the update.
[Xperia Z1 General] KWOKSFUNG:
Off topic: It comes before GTA 5 PC !!!!
[Xperia Z1 General] alfred0725:
fu*k sony, whats the issue if two devices rolling out update on the same day? IS there any symbolic meaning of it?
[Xperia Z1 General] CappyT:
If you don't pay the bandwith, let sony know it, they will be surely happy to use yours.

Joke aside, releasing a 1gb update to 1milion devices in a day equals to 1 milion GB...

Think about it for a second, before raging.
[Xperia Z1 General] alfred0725:
Thats mean they cannot afford "1GB update to 1 milion devices in a day", so how do they release a firmware for each device? or accurately can just afford releasing for one device and not more?

According to XperiaFirmware.com, 23.1.A.0.690 was released for D6603 and D5803 at the same time. Then within 24 hours, they released 23.1.A.0.690 for D6503.

Now Sony told us some country's Z2 should be rolling out this week and Z1 for next week. Is that really the bandwidth issue?
[Xperia Z1 General] Snaqejack:
If they released the update for every phone they ever built imagine how hammered their servers would be.

Jesus, alot of people here are really acting like spoiled f*ucking kids, if you want updates quickly get a f*cking Nexus device and stop complaing that you haven't gotten the update yet because you know what?

NO ONE CARES IF YOU THINK THAT SONY IS THE DEVIL OR ANTICHRIST OR WHATEVER, PLEASE SHUT THE F*CK UP AND WAIT LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

If you're really need Lollipop, install a f*cking AOSP version instead and spare us normal people of your childish behavior.
[Xperia Z1 General] alfred0725:
Well, you are replying someone you don't care. How funny of your definition for "NO ONE CARES" logic !
[Xperia Z1 General] BlAckXpeRia:
You again?:mad: Come on, stop watching this thread if you think all the people here are "f*ucking kids". And what's up with all the swearing? That only underlines more and more your stupidity. Now go and play with the other 10%(maybe even less) who don't care!
[Xperia Z1 General] Snaqejack:
And you make no sense with what you just wrote.

So you think that 90% of the people reading this thread are interested in hearing about how someone will never buy a Sony product again, how someone week throw their phone out of the window of function X isn't included etc etc?
[Xperia Z1 General] mckeowngoo:
I remember the good old days on the Galaxy 2 forum when everyone was up in arms with Samsung for slow update roll outs and how Sony were lauded as the shining example of how a manufacturer should behave when it comes to OS updates. Patience people.
[Xperia Z1 General] Snaqejack:
Finally someone who seems like a normal person.
[Xperia Z1 General] Duvel999:
The desire is always greater, than the possessing... :D

Becareful what you wish...

Kitkat isn't bad..

Still my phone works :p

I personally don't like the material design..

But we'll see in time:)

Happy easter to everyone here

Sent by my Z1 with XDA Fax
[Xperia Z1 General] mckeowngoo:
True. I wonder how many requests there will be for advice on how to downgrade to Kit Kat once Lollipop rolls out?
[Xperia Z1 General] Snaqejack:
Or how about : F*ck Sony, i can't root it yet!
[Xperia Z1 General] BlAckXpeRia:
Oh, so now you show that your 10% group doesn't have a sense of humor? Come on, learn to make a difference between sarcasm and real statement.

---------- Post added at 10:02 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:01 AM ----------

Already rooted...

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[Xperia Z1 General] mckeowngoo:
Pure speculation here, but with Sony looking to cut costs, I would think that this will be the last Z1 update and possibly an end of a 6 month flagship phone cycle. The rumoured specs of the Z4 look good.

Until a waterproof Nexus phone is released, I'll be sticking with Sony.
[Xperia Z1 General] Snaqejack:
I never said it wasn't.
[Xperia Z1 General] SamadiPour:
Kitkat is completely STABLE (and have gr8 performance if you use custom rom and custom kernel)

But Lollipop have problems even in Nexus devices

So i will stay in Kitkat even if sony release lollipop

I have gr8 battery - gr8 display with advance color control - xposed fully working and... In Kitkat so why should i use buggy lollipop?!
[Xperia Z1 General] reza_v:
ART
[Xperia Z1 General] gregbradley:
Thread cleaned, Please stay on topic and respect all users here
[Xperia Z1 General] SamadiPour:
Good Point

But i heard that Art wasn't included in Xperia z2 android 5!!!

And also the battery was worse that Kitkat

can anyone confirm it?

(albate reza jan khodam test nakardam vali karbar ha as in update razi nabodan)
[Xperia Z1 General] DorianX:
Are you sure about this? What I know ART is the default Runtime in lollipop (EVERY lollipop based ROM)
[Xperia Z1 General] cpl593h:
A Dalvik Lollipop doesn't exist. If you have a "Lollipop" without ART, it's called a Material Design skin for 4.x and I highly doubt that Sony would do that.

What they did, however, was remove ART from KitKat (pure KitKat had ART as a developer option). I hated them for that.

Then again, it would be surprising since ART uses less battery than Dalvik with the same workload (native binaries versus JIT pseudocode). Of course, it's always possible that they have messed with something. My Z1 would finish its life with CM12, if that were the case.
[Xperia Z1 General] SamadiPour:
i know what you are saying but i head it

i will ask it again from the one who told (i don't have z2 but i just head and i was looking if it's right or not?!)

updata: he said that CPU-Z show dalvik
[Xperia Z1 General] Yenkazu:
CPU-Z doesn't show correct info sometimes.

You can't have Dalvik running in Android 5.0, since only ART compiler in OS itself, you can check the system library and binary if you have root.

Sony are genius if it can running Android 5.0 with Dalvik xD
[Xperia Z1 General] sfkaudi:
It's ART and now I can go from 07,00 morning till 24,00 day after

And it's smooth like butter

Telia denmark z2
[Xperia Z1 General] kk47042:
I can't post pictures because I'm new here, but according to twitter Z1 will get the update at the same time as C3 and T2 Ultra.

I don't undestand that. If they can start update for Z1 series, C3, T2 Ultra and Z Ultra, i don't see why they coudln't update Z2 and Z1 at the same time, they are all at least from Z series.
[Xperia Z1 General] Destroyedbeauty:
[MENTION=535343]all[/MENTION]

Once .242 is arriving on the XperiaFirm (Windows .exe) application - I will create an pre-rooted & flashable ZIP-file with init.support out of the box for you guys, based on the Nordic FTF! :)
[Xperia Z1 General] alfred0725:
It is impossible! Someone said sony cannot afford the bandwidth for rolling out new firmware more than one device!!:laugh::laugh:
[Xperia Z1 General] :
I've said this but I'm gonna say it again. Can we all just be patient and wait? I mean it's just a few days. It's gonna come out sooner or later.
[Xperia Z1 General] swagie:
2/2 #Xperia Z3 Dual, Z1, Z1 Compact and Z Ultra next week, followed shortly after by T2 Ultra & C3. Then Z Series - more on timings soon.

Just in from there Twitter account.
[Xperia Z1 General] BlackSoulxxx:
I'm ready for FTF, XperiFirm now check for every 6 hours on all variants. I dont want to miss it...Hope sony make the rom stable, not putting new bugs in there.....:confused::confused::confused:
[Xperia Z1 General] kk47042:
i'm afraid we'll have to wait until next monday. There's no chance they will release the update before that. This week is for xperia Z2 :P
[Xperia Z1 General] AnrgKrshn:
can you make a clean zip too please? I don't want to erase my int storage to flash ftf :P I know I just need to uncheck data wipe, but zips are just SO much easier :D Please? With Sugar on top? C6902 :)
[Xperia Z1 General] mikailmohammed:
Nice!
[Xperia Z1 General] protick26:
10 April we'll get the update!