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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
Ok for those saying they have battery life ? issues are you letting it charge overnight while sleeping if so it's not recommended, you need to let it charge only when battery ? is low basically at 5% once it's that low then plug it in and let it charge, you need to let it learn to charge on low battery ? that way it actually does a real full charge if you do this on every time it gets low at 5% your battery life ? will get better and just keep getting better.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kamau54:
I thought lithium ion batteries didn't have memory.

Sent from my Note 4, coming from where the wind begins.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jalshah05:
I just noticed couple of days ago that you can change your folder colors... hmm I kinda like it...;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
Here's a example of battery ? full charged unplugged driving ? to work and am using Tapatalk did a few browsing on G+ , now doesn't yet show activity once it hits 99% then it shows , as you see over and hour when i arrived to my job.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nyydynasty:
I agree with Venom. the L update has been perfect for me. No issues and battery life is about the same as 4.4.4 (which wasn't bad for me). I dont know why all these people are having issues...unless its some app they have installed thats causing issues.

The only thing I miss is the sound controls from the power menu. I miss being able to immediately put it into vibrate mode.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kamau54:
Then that would still mean that there's a problem on the end of those who put this update together, because it should be compatible with all apps out the play store. But at the same time, that would mean also that we all have the same app that's causing the exact same problems. I mean, no one blames the consumer when they get a defective product, do they?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
Oh I'm not saying that it ain't true , but if you and any other person didn't try my menton should try , here's exactly what i did when Lollipop ? first came out , remove battery ? for a minute or 2 then put battery ? back on and let it drop at 5% or 3% after that charge your phone and repeat only the drop on 5 % and charge again see if that helps you or anyone else with battery ? issues.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kamau54:
Wish I could get that now (though I will when I roll back to 4.4). I can be fully charged, check out G+ for a few, and will notice my percentage drop to 99%.

What I'm saying is this though, unequivocally. Besides the camera focus issue I'm having, I had absolutely none of this problems I'm having now. They all came after the 5.0 update and have not gotten any better.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
Weird just took theses pictures to test focus at my job at least it's working for me with no issues on focus this was with hdr .

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Here's one more i took from a customer that comes with her Tom Cat ? and horses ?

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] greekunit690:
You are correct about this raising battery performance but it shouldn't be done constantly because in the long run the more you cycle your battery the shorter it will last...our batteries should really be recharged at no lower than 50% for maximum battery life. [emoji106] [emoji106] [emoji106]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
Actually what i ment do to or 3 at 5 % after that once your at 50% can start charging always is the way i do it.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kamau54:
What I was saying, and that has been confirmed by many others, is that when you first activate the camera, the auto focus won't work until you either rotate the phone or back out the camera, then come back in it. From what I have read here and other forums is that it is a hardware issue, and a replacement is the only way. Unfortunately for me, I'm past my return date in store (Best Buy), so I'll have to return it under warranty to Samsung. I was really trying to avoid that since I know they'll send me a refurbished one, and this one was purchased at full price just 3 months ago.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
Ahh i see i thought you ment Lollipop ? did that .

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kamau54:
No. It started 3 days after the store return policy expired. ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Randomlord:
Yea, I still have GPS issues. Google Maps and Navigation hide it better than Waze does. Waze tells you that you have lost GPS signal and won't update until you get it back.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] droe411:
My buddy has a T-Mobile Note 4 with the same issue. He had his replaced by T-Mobile, so no LP. I think it is a hardware issue?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dmm5157:
Been doing a comparison for the past couple of weeks. Had the LP OTA for a week. Tracked my battery consumption with the update. After 3 days, it stabilized to around 5% per hour of battery consumption with minimal use (screen on less than 10min per hour). I tried to listen to music at work with LP on my phone (I use PlayerPro) and my battery would go to around 15% per hour or more with screen off while listening to music.

ODIN'd back to 4.4.4 on Wednesday and am going to do another comparison after a week. So far, it's around 5% with much heavier usage. I'm back to being able to listen to music on my media player at work and consumption bumps only slightly to just under 6% per hour.

No change in charging habits, I've always put my phones on the charger at night. That has been the case with my Note 4 since I got it in October.

I'd love to get the LP update working at similar battery rates as KK had, but I can't deal with my phone dying before the end of the day. Never had a problem with that with KK. It's possible that it's a rogue app that I have installed that does not play well with LP, but none of the non-root battery stat apps are very helpful in isolating it, as Android System shows as my main app consumer.

It has been interesting reading all the comments and feedback over the past couple of weeks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kamau54:
It is, but I just hate returning a brand new 3+ months device, only to get a refurbished one in its place,that was paid almost $900 for.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nyydynasty:
Google can't possibly release an update that is compatible with all play store apps. If something changes on the backend, its up the devs to recognize this ASAP and get it rectified. In this example, its not the consumer who's at fault. its the app's dev.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] droe411:
+1

It is up to the Apps dev to update said app to be compatible with the new update. Lollipop isn't a new surprise, these devs should have been figuring this out when Google released the API's. This happens every update. If Google were to figure their updates based on the 3rd party apps there would be no improvement in Android.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kamau54:
I could go along with that if it was an application issue, but it's not. It's a system wide problem that's playing not nice with mine and others phones. None of my app, except for the camera, are giving me problems. It's the lagginess, the worse battery life, the wifi not remembering to activate when I come home, and a couple other minor things. These things are not developer problems, but something incompatible in the update.

Sent from my Note 4, coming from where the wind begins.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Themetnut:
Ok so i got the Phone situation taken care of, now I guess I'll do one more factory reset to take care of the android OS battery drain
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] OTSS:
So nothing worth mentioning....thanks for confirming. :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kamau54:
Here's an article from November of last year about 5.0. It seems to have a couple of the issues that I have been reporting, including battery life.

http://fieldguide.gizmodo.com/the-worst-bugs-in-android-5-0-lollipop-and-how-to-fix-t-1663090445

That would seem to say that these problems were known about, yet Google chose to release this update.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tampa8:
Since many and perhaps the majority like myself are not having many of the issues as I posted in another forum it is most likely an app or apps that need updating by the publisher. (Or if you have not updated some apps for one reason or another) This is particularly true going from Dalvik to ART. My battery life for example is better overall, not night and day better but for sure not worse. I have no crashes or problems with the Wifi. I rarely use GPS do can not comment on that.

I would identify apps that have not recently been updated and see if deleting them fixes anything.

One thing I do see is the 4G showing up for a brief moment or two while Wifi is on. My theories are either an app causing it, (Could be a system app because this quirk seems to be quite widespread) or there has always been times the mobile data is being accessed but in the past there was no indication of it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JoseGR52:
Wonder why'd they choose now to show it if it happened before and was just hidden
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] 56_kruiser:
Over time I have read various versions of both statements above. Absolutely no offense to either of you, but I've seen this varying info for so long I'm thinking nobody at all really knows. Well, I'm sure someone does, but how do you know who to believe.

I'll be interested to see how your comparison comes out after you do your next test. I've asked a couple times now, and no responses, about whether Fast Charge is not as good. I intended to include another fellow in this multi-quote that mentioned issues with Fast Charge...but I guess I didn't click it. It's definitely not great for me any more.

I had typically charged all night, but stopped after reading a while ago about it not being a good idea. I have no clue whether to or not. But a test I do for battery lasting that I've done for all mly phones is have it at 100 % when I go to bed, not plug it in, leave everything as I normally do (wifi on, blue tooth on, same settings for mail retrieval, etc.), and measure how much battery gets used per hour. I was at a little under 2%, maybe closer to 1.5% per hour on 4.4.4. I"m a bit over 2% per hour now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dmm5157:
I noticed the fast charge seemed much slower with LP. Often times, I use my phone while plugged into my Samsung fast charger to get a quick bump. . On LP, the phone battery percentage seemed to crawl. Could have been placebo effect, so I'll try to do a more official charge time tracking in the coming week between KK and LP.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mjharris65:
Just a theory: but possibly for transparency reasons. Maybe they are just trying to be as clear and thorough as possible with what information they choose to provide us.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tampa8:
Expanding on the theory, it may not be a coincidence that in the same update that you can no longer access turning on or off Data with an app anymore we are seeing the 4G show briefly.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Martinjv71:
For me battery life has been worse. I also noticed they took the temperature display out of the night clock.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] 56_kruiser:
First off...I have to admit to stupidity :eek: I found that when we got home from a trip a week earlier, my wife plugged in our chargers in our respective locations. She has a Note 2, and her's is whilte also. One of the posts here just a bit ago mentioned seeing the adaptive charging notice, and that got me to thinking. I hadn't watched for that, but I went and checked the chargers, and hers was in my spot. So my adaptive is slower because I wasn't using the right charger. :o

I did do the disconnected test last night: Went to bed with battery at 100%; WiFi on; Blue Tooth on; other usual things running, such as checking for mail etc. I used 1.7777% per hour. I think that's pretty close to what it was doing before the update, maybe just a small bit higher.

I just did a 39 minute walk with blue tooth headphone, playing Pandora; I had MyTracks running to track the walk. Tasker had WiFi coming on intermittently checking for my home AP. It used 5% of the battery during that walk.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kamau54:
Here are my battery usages since about 2am or so. I unplugged my phone at 100%, and went to sleep. The next time I touched it was at around 10:30 or so this morning, and it was at 92%. For the past 20 minutes, I have read news articles and G+ posts. No audio or video, nothing, just read. My battery has dropped from 92% to 88% in just that 20 minutes of screen on time. I never had these sort of battery issues before this update.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
That's pretty much good battery life ? if hearing music for 39 minutes ??

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Close to 5 hours at work battery life ? at 95% ??

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tampa8:
As more reports come in it just seems more and more the battery life is being affected by certain apps. If you happen to have apps that were updated for Lollipop they may not drain as much as ones not. (Again especially with the change from Dalvik to ART) My experience is virtually the same as what 56_Kruiser is now reporting.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] omair2005:
After doing a factory reset and restoring my apps with helium the difference is night and day! Much smoother
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] 56_kruiser:
Does Helium back up all data and everything? No Root needed?

I am avoiding factory reset due to not wanting to have to do all the individual things to keep data, as well as all fo the setup.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] omair2005:
Yeah app+data but some apps aren't compatible (ie:Netflix, Whatsapp, Dolphin..). It did backup and restore just fine for a majority of my apps tho. You have to move the 'carbon' folder to your SD card before your factory reset!! Move it back to internal sd after reset. It didn't give me an option for SD card, only internal or cloud
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] harrisam11:
Did the same thing on Friday (along with clearing cache) and I've had the same experience. Much better battery life and apps run smoother. Also, the few apps I had issues with are no longer force closing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ekerbuddyeker:
I was having a terrible time recently, especially with maps which was giving me black screens.

So I hard reset, via recovery, three cache clears and 3 full Hard resets. Overkill and unnecessary? Perhaps. But no big deal to do.

What was a change for me was the Google program that reinstalled all my apps, WiFi passwords etc. I didn't get that the last time I did a hard reset.

I then disabled all the crap I don't need, and deleted a whole bunch of apps I never used.

The device definitely feels faster than before. Battery life is still the same, not as good as KK.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jack man:
Random yet specific little bug here...

While playing Words With Friends, the Google Play Music app will begin playing music every time the ads on Words finish. I have to manually go in a shut down Google Music.

Anyone else experiencing this? Or know how to get it to stop?

Happy that this is the only negative experience I'm having on LP update.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
Wow at 35 % haven't charged waiting to go down on 5 % but on 35 % here's what i got so far after 1 day and 4 hrs

I am very impressed ?? battery life ? is Fantastic , i am sure once I'm at 5 % i will have probably around sot 6 hrs and so on

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
For the record for those on AT&T when your on wifi i know randomly 4GLTE goes on and off sometimes without out doing nothing like sending mms , i am not sure if this happens to other carriers, but i figured it out why it randomly goes on and off while on wifi it's the new hd voice/data 4GLTE , like me its on by default i keep it that way cause that helps you hear phone calls clearly and better and it helps as well wifi to work faster even though it's not really using the 4GLTE data, just thought i pass it on here ??﻿

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Final results on battery life ? on Note 4 AT&T Lollipop ? ? and i have to really say WOW battery life is magnificent here's the final screen shots ﻿? ?

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] 56_kruiser:
I can't get Heilium to work. I think it may be because my PC is 64 bit Windows 7. I wente to Google plus gropu for Helium, and see a lot of people complaining about Helium not working.

I'd like to back down to 4.4, but am reluctant to do w/o a backup.

This is really the main thing I miss due to no ROOT.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kamau54:
Thing is, not only do you have to be in an area that supports it, but both phones have to support it as well. And for me, having it on is just a waste of energy & time, so I turned it off.

Even so, it did nothing about the 4g icon coming on and off.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
Yeah very true, even if you turn it off it's gonna react and turn 4GLTE on and actually 4GLTE will show more and stay on with the wifi if have that off since its AT&T Network it reacts more when off , when its enabled 4GLTE while on wifi will show less, and not sure who mentioned that if you have it enable that it eats more battery but the facts that I've seen with my own eyes ? it doesn't eat your battery if you saw my last post and the one before that one my battery life is Fantastic so it really ain't eating your battery.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] fatlardo:
Updated and getting a bit worse battery life. Usually when I get home I use to always have more than 50%, but now I'm getting under. Also, I have so much lag. Email takes longer to load. Not liking it. Maybe a re install fresh?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dmm5157:
Works just fine with Windows 7 64 Bit. I just used it to back-up and restore last night and I have that same setup.

The big thing to remember is to change the phone from MTP to PTP, otherwise the Helium program on your computer won't recognize your phone.

It's a clunky interface for non-rooted devices. Much nicer if you have root, but that's not an option with us.

other than that, be sure to copy your backup folder to your external memory card if you use the "phone storage" back-up location. Cloud back-up is always a bit safer in that regard. I've forgotten to copy over my folder before doing a wipe and factory reset, won't make that mistake again.

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Did a similar couple of tests.

Edited: the following battery and charging results are for Android 4.4.4 Kitsap.

Over-night off the charger, phone drained around 1.6% per hour (from 82% down to 69% in about 8 hours).

Charging on the fast charger, my phone charged from 24% to 42% in 14 minutes (1.29% per hour).

Normal work day, after KK stabilized, was around 5% or less per hour of standby battery drain reliably with normal limited use.

went ahead and ODIN'd back to 4.4.4 stock, factory reset, then took the OTA to go back to LP to start my next week of tests. I was selective on what apps I restored via Helium. Avoided older apps that I either didn't use much or hadn't been updated in over a year. Trying to figure out if compatibility with older apps is the issue with battery drain. Going to do the same charging speed and battery drain tests to see how things look.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ewingr:
I'll post some thoughts in BLUE in your part about Helium.

Great. I'd really like to hear your test results for the overnight while on KK.

I'm really considering moving back to 4.4.4. My GPS also, as others, is dropping during navigation. If you don't know where you are, that isn't good.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dmm5157:
Sorry, meant to state that my test results I listed were for Kitkat. Edited my post to add clarification.

My next round of testing will be for LP, which I'll post during the weekend.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
I just don't get it why some get gps issues and battery life issue none of these effect me at all, i am not saying that yall are wrong but i find it weird, i posted my battery life ? results and is Fantastic.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dmm5157:
I really think it comes down to a couple of things.

1. I, like several I know that had bad battery experience with LP, did not do a full wipe or factory reset after updating to LP.

2. I had almost 200 apps installed when I updated to LP. Many of those apps are older and haven't been updated in over a year. I have a feeling these apps could be adding to some of the battery drain problems.

3. The phone does take a bit of time to settle in and normalize. Updates for Android can often lead to "things were so much better before I updated" mentality.

I will say that my battery life was unusually bad with LP, so I am really jumping in to help shine some light on what things really are to try and dispel some myths, if possible.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
If you haven't yet go check on here few snap shots on my last battery life results tell me what you think of it.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] erick161:
I think I've seen you post before about waiting to go down so low before you charge... You realize this is bad on your battery...correct? Its best to keep your battery in the 40-80% range. Small charges through the day won't hurt it and will keep the battery healthier versus going from 100-5% then back up and down.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
Wasn't doing it on purpose but since was out of town did do the test tho usually i start recharging at 50% to 65% range if at my home area, was testing since out of town and it is excellent battery life ?.

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Oh i did forget to mention was on a new battery i bought so always best to let it drain the first time when it's new.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dmm5157:
You mind doing something for me?

Can you use an app (like LIST MY APPS) to take an inventory of what apps you have installed on your phone? Maybe we can compare to target apps that are different to single out possible troublemakers.

Here's my current list of apps. If things work out, I'll compare what I backed up (when I was on LP the first time) and see what is different about those.

My Installed apps List - 04-13-2015
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] omair2005:
People with battery issues, have you done a factory reset? For GPS issues, have you taken off your back cover, and tightened up the screws? Battery life is very subjective, and depends on what apps your using. For example, I realized Facebook mobile site is just as good as the app, so I deleted/disabled FB app and now using mobile site. Try Trepn, from play store to monitor what apps are hogging up your phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ender200j:
I am another in the camp of "bad" battery life on Lollipop. I have reset my phone 3 times now as well. The last one was yesterday so hopefully this will improve.

On kitkat I would get between 3:30-4 hrs SOT through a day of use and have about 50% battery left when I went to bed.

On Lollipop at 4 hrs SOT at bedtime i would be in the low 20s if not lower at bedtime.