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[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
Yeah. I do think it's a sharp looking phone but there is no way I can go with a touchwiz phone. Just personal preference. I really like sense.

Also I have to agree on the glass back. I know the two times I've dropped my m9 resulted in a few dents in the back would break a glass back phone.
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
The thing with sense is that it's as smooth as ios, even with loads of widgets. I've had all ones and all galaxy's, optimizing is the game, not hardware.

The latest camera soft seems to do better but I can't help giving that SOT an angry eye...

Sent from a mobile gadget...
[One (M9) General] gomez.pl:
I found an article about overheating.

this is the user's test: http://blog.pclab.pl/mieszko/W.jaki.sposób.HTC.rozwiązało.problem.z.przegrzewaniem.się.One.M9,561

its come from Poland but the clue of this news is that M9 is not 4x2ghz device....

You can easly translate this news in google so enjoy :)
[One (M9) General] th3:
That backs up the lag and stuttering I'm getting in games after a few minutes. Far worse than M8.

It wouldn't surprise me at all, we said this right before that OTA.

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[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
How about after the OTA? I'm planning to get an M9 the next weeks and I'm extremely concerned about both battery life and overheating. I thought it was over but now I read this thread and I'm confused and concerned again :(
[One (M9) General] Sameh mohamed:
Yesterday i was playing "The room two" after 20 mins or so the phone gets too hot i checked the battery temp it reached 46 °C i think there is no way to fix it is all due to the crappy 810 and i think it is also the cause average battery life despite the bigger capacity
[One (M9) General] xxquicksh0txx:
Everyone freaked out that the m8 got hot as well. My M9 has yet to get as hot as my M8 has.
[One (M9) General] Duncan1982:
Using my m9 on rapid charger as I type this and its cool, been watching a lot of YouTube video's (one was around 58mins) all was fine.

I can only assume its gaming that brings some heat as that's something I never do.
[One (M9) General] xxquicksh0txx:
My M8 would rape my hand occasionally. The hottest my M9 has gotten is while optimizing apps on my Quick Charger(2.0) and it's still not even *that* hot compared to what I've felt on the M8. Heck, even my Z3...

I believe there's some truth to the 810 being a little *too* toasty, and I think the phone was getting hot on pre-release software. (Before they started throttling so much) But I think they went ahead and throttled too much.

Also, what's the point of having all 8 cores online all of the time? Not sure why they did that, my M8 would shut 3 cores off now my M9 is running all 8 cores 100% of the time.

In the middle of flashing the released Viper rom as I was on a beta version. 150/182 optimized and my phone is only 103f(infrared thermometer), which is nothing to be afraid of. It'd probably get hotter when it utilizes the gpu... but still.
[One (M9) General] Duncan1982:
Yeh I'm not sure either, but what I am confident on is that it will be rectified with updates.

Tbh if throttling isn't effecting the performance I won't complain or having all 8 cores active. This may be different if I was a gamer and the above was effecting performance (which it might, I don't know) but I just dont use my phone for this.
[One (M9) General] sausje85:
Well custom kernels will resolve this right? Still makes no sense why they wouldn't think of that themselves...
[One (M9) General] xxquicksh0txx:
The throttling they're doing now is hurting performance. I think with better optimization they could get away with less throttling. Especially as it's a brand new SOC, and it hasn't really had time to 'mature' yet.

They should. I'd hope battery life should improve, as well as overall performance. I'm no kernel dev though.
[One (M9) General] zetsumeikuro:
Just blame Qualcomm for it's failure /end.
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
I think best way to solve the issue is to disable 2 A57 cores and undervolt the heck out of the cpu. Or one could disable 2 A53 cores and 2 A57 cores. That would help battery life a Lot, Probs improve performance because it won't be throttling, and reduce temps significantly. At least that's what I'm going to try and do once a Kernel allows for it.

Imo, there is 0 reasons for an 8 core cpu in a phone.
[One (M9) General] Maddog0057:
I've also noticed my phone getting really warm real fast, although i did find that turning on power saving mode does decrease the temp significantly but unfortunately not altogether.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
HTC One M9 Gaming and Thermals

before reading this you should note:

HPM = High Performance Mode which is hidden inside Developer Options, a sort of CPU governor boost, forcing the device the M9 to mantain upper clocks rather than scale up and down with ordinary governor, throttling still apply but it will always hold at the higher available clocks

Powersaver - CPU = disables A57 cluster and only the A53 cluster is used at 300mhz to 1.5ghz, GPU clocks are not touched

In general while gaming the GPU will not throttle until 35c skin temperature after that it will throttle in stages, eventually arriving at half the speed of Adreno 430 which is slightly faster than the M8 s801 Adreno 330 GPU, it will hold that speed and temperature for the remaining of gaming time, around 45c check the graphs over here

Few warnings: you need to realize that this is an octa core known for its heavy thermals at the moment, so playing on the charger is a major TABOO, equally downloading over wifi while gaming seems to cause excessive throttling as well so be careful there

audio is glorious with or without earphones

Game Tests, base: 1.32.401.15
[One (M9) General] Makaveli1490:
I'm getting overheating issues. The first night I got it and started to download all my google apps, the phone got so hot I had to put it down. Scorching. Now it overheats from slight use. Very uncomfortable. Im going to take it back in exchange for another. If that overheats as well, I'm going to keep my M7
[One (M9) General] theveterans:
That's odd. Mine certainly didn't get hot. Only warm to touch while porting everything.
[One (M9) General] Makaveli1490:
How did you purchase your phone?
[One (M9) General] theveterans:
From HTC website. I then use system update to the latest then sync/restore my apps and Google stuff. All is done via WiFi.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
did you apply the latest HTC update? the out of box OS doesn't have thermal caps

if you did and still have bad extreme overheating issues your device might have some defects in thermal shielding or your s810 is a bad yield

its good you brought up the M7 as a reference point, the M9 with the latest sw thermals fall right between the M7 and M8, that is it should not heat more than the M7
[One (M9) General] Makaveli1490:
Hmm I got mine straight from T-Mobile, in the store

Since I bought the phone I haven't received an update. I been checking, but nothing so far. Is there a way to compare the software information?
[One (M9) General] kakanjac:
Whan I use maps and navi mine m9 have 45℃
[One (M9) General] theveterans:
Check if you have "1.32.617.30" under software information. I have tested Navigation too but it's not as bad as 45 degrees. I feel slightly warmer than my skin so it's around 40 degrees IMO.
[One (M9) General] Makaveli1490:
I have 1.32.531.25
[One (M9) General] theveterans:
Yeah. That's why. You just have to wait for T-Mobile to finalize the 1.32.617.30 version. Benchmarks will get slightly lower with this though (I.e. getting 61000 rather than 62000 on AnTuTu) but real life performance in gaming and browsing, GPS are negligible. Heat reduction is tremendously improved.
[One (M9) General] ZombieSuffer:
I'm on AT&T in the US and currently have Android v 5.0.2, Sense 7.0, Software 1.32.502.9
[One (M9) General] Makaveli1490:
Ok I see the article about AT&T & Tmobile will receive an update soon, however in the picture it's 531.33

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/04/09/htc-one-m9-vs-lg-g3-worth-the-upgrade/

Are you rooted theveterans?
[One (M9) General] xxquicksh0txx:
He must just have the wrong number x.x.531.x is always T-Mobile.
[One (M9) General] theveterans:
Nope:
[One (M9) General] gzhn:
hi all,

previous week i got my one m9 from hong kong. and absolutely it has an overheating issue now.

i've read that an ota update solves this issue but when i check it says your phone software is up to date.

my phone has android 5.02, htc sense 7.0 and software number 1.32.709.14 with kernel 3.10.49

will there be an update for my phone or it's updated already and this overheating is normal for this phone.

thanks for your reply in advance.
[One (M9) General] BR7fan:
I have att m9. I was wondering the same about my firmware.
[One (M9) General] kakanjac:
HTC told me today that the normal heating up 55℃??
[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
I find that hard to believe. That's 131 degrees f
[One (M9) General] BR7fan:
Is this normal ? This is before and after using benchmark. With just light use,like just using browser it can get to 114

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[One (M9) General] kakanjac:
I can't believe too, but... Funny
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
102f = 38c that's very normal especially after a benchmark, throttling only begins after 35c, the thermal ceiling (latest sw) on the M9 is 45c
[One (M9) General] th3:
That's chip temp, not device back.

Huge difference.

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[One (M9) General] kakanjac:
I know what is chip and what is device. And I'm with htc about device wrote, not about chip.
[One (M9) General] th3:
55c is not the device back temperature limit, at all. At >48 it'll be too hot to handle.

It's the CPU temp before throttling.

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[One (M9) General] brittoking:
CPU gets throttled at 35℃; I believe 55 ° is the shut off for the phone CPU
[One (M9) General] aos10:
guys....HELP

45 is normal ?
[One (M9) General] Wildclip:
Try the T-Mobile update, just got released last night
[One (M9) General] aos10:
i am not from USA
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
NORMAL 45c is the ceiling during gaming it should go higher after that, that is you can keep gaming and it will not climb much further, perhaps few more degrees, as long as you are on the latest base (.15 or .17)
[One (M9) General] solsearch:
Crap. I'm on .14 (Software number: 1.32.709.14). At least this explains why it gets so darned hot in games. And why the camera doesn't seem to be as good as other versions...

I got it from an importer and from what I understand it's the Singapore version. I wonder if it'll get the update everyone else is getting...

Or if the tools for flashing will work on it (it's been years since I flashed and I remember some region variants being resistant to the methods used on others...)
[One (M9) General] Sammae7:
I just picked up an M9 yesterday after bricking my LG G3. I've heard about the heating issues but most of the reviews I read/watched debunked it.

Yet, mine gets noticabaly warm with moderate use and fifteen minutes into using the GPS, was hot enough that I could feel it right through my jeans with it sitting on my lap. After the hour long trip it was so hot I was legitimately worried about my phone.

I have two weeks to decide if I'm sticking with the M9.
[One (M9) General] zedlor:
I was multitasking between Chrome and Gmail the other day, not exactly doing anything too intensive. After about 5 minutes, according to GSam, the battery at least managed to get up to 48 degrees C, and I could certainly feel it. My M8 never used to get that hot, though I did have a case on it so maybe I just couldn't feel it as much as you can when you're touching a heat conductive surface...
[One (M9) General] th3:
Not a chance.

I work with chips for over 6 years now, in this exact field.

Tjunction is typically 90-110C.

CPU won't get therm.trip at 35C Tj in even the worst case scenario.

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Battery temp doesn't matter, you can relax. I still get 40-50C with M8.

CPU temp is different. It's the internal die temp, at any of the digital diodes deep within the chip, beneath the package in the core, northridge and graphics blocks.

Third party sensors don't yet know which diode they are polling and how often that register is updated. So they can be inaccurate, for our purposes.

The soft therm.trip and hard therm.trip will be figures coded within the CPU. But at what register address, the public doesn't know (HTC doesn't release that info).

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[One (M9) General] rsdroid:
Just finished my first Skype video call with my new M9. It got so hot that the temperature warning came on! It was not charging during the call, and wasn't in the sun. I took the case off to try to let it cool and it was almost too hot to hold. After I hung up, I put it on the charger cause I lost 30% battery in 30 min, and was still getting the heat warning. I love this phone and HTC in general, but this may be a deal breaker. Anyone else experience this on Skype?
[One (M9) General] jauhien:
Use Hangouts.. Skype is extremely poor optimized piece of rubbish from Microsoft.. :)
[One (M9) General] Culbert:
I had an m9 for a week. It didnt function

properly. It got very hot when I was only watching videos, it wouldn't play all videos on youtube. It would call random people who I didn't know when it was asleep. It didn't show in my history, but I was sent a screenshot of my number on their missed call list. The keyboard's hotspots were the wrong size or my fingers are just fat, because I couldn't type anything without hitting the wrong key every other key. It also had a lazy pixel. I say lazy because it started working when I tried to take it back. Biggest piece of crap I ever had to pay a restocking fee for.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
yes my friend it's called a virus or something else, don't blame your usage on the device, most of what you wrote doesn't apply to four M9 units around me

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which software version? did you get the thermal update?
[One (M9) General] p50kombi:
Four??? FOUR????

You my friend are a hoarder :)
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
not my own, not even my unit is my own, but they are four with the people around me
[One (M9) General] cougzzz:
Does get warm with videos but not hot at all on my end. About the same as my iPhone 5s in terms of temperature.
[One (M9) General] rsdroid:
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which software version? did you get the thermal update?[/QUOTE]

I'm on Verizon, so it was supposed to have shipped with the update.

Version: 1.33.605.15
[One (M9) General] theintelligent:
1.32.401.15 update has controlled the heating issue well under limits.
[One (M9) General] roomate:
1.32.161.15 still overheating

Got my M9 last Saturday from Vodafone UK.

this morning it was running very hot during a Skype video call with the power cable attached.

I can't even hold it

Battery apps don't even indicate the temp, it just show overheating. I quickly turn off the phone and let it cool down a bit before switching it back on.
[One (M9) General] cougzzz:
Looks like the LG g4 has the 808 chip instead of the 810 that htc one m9 is using. Hmm
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
and that means what exactly? the s808 chipset has half the memory bandwidth (while dealing with 2k resolution, which explains why their UI lags so much on the G3) and two A57 cores killed, inferior GPU, you can do better on the M9 by locking out the A57 cluster using powersaver mode

using powersaver is certainly easier than changing a phone, and you still keep the awesome GPU power, killer bandwidth and UI speed

this whole s810 drama is a rumour fest, i bet many didnt even look at their temps before the s810, most of the 2014 phones except the M8 were hovering around 40c during normal operation, the M7 hovers around 45c during heavy use in its latest lollipop base

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its really not wise to do heavy tasks (like gaming or skype call) on an octa core phone while charging, in fact OEMs generally reduced the USB cable length to force you to unplug your phone while using it

its nothing new and not specific to the M9 mate, i can make you a page full list of main 2013 / 2014 Android phones which will easily cross 45c in such tasks, especially if you are charging

if you must do the unforgivable thing of destroying your battery by working heavily while charging, then at least disable the A57 cluster using your M9 CPU powersaver

just a warning about CPU powersaver, there is a bug currently as it doesnt stick after reboot, so you need to disable enable after reboot
[One (M9) General] ref1ux:
This is certainly the warmest phone I've ever used, and I've owned the M8, M7, One X, OnePlus One, Moto X 2013, Moto X 2014, GS6, GS3, GS2 etc. etc. And the whole body heats up too, not just a spot on the back like some phones. It becomes slightly uncomfortable to hold even after a few minutes of heavy use, let alone use whilst charging. I don't think the 810 is a terrible CPU, but it is certainly not as good as previous releases from Qualcomm like the 801. Of course, we all know why this is - 20nm and a rushed design. It's a shame but it doesn't ruin the phone.

Interesting info about the power saver mode though - I didn't realise it shut down the A57 cluster.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
come on now, you can't be serious there ;) 55c was ordinary on the One X but the One X did really improve throughout it's two years of sw support ;)

in fact my M7 is hotter, just last night i was watching some videos on my M7 and the battery crossed 45c (latest base)

the M9 has a ceiling which is 45c after it hold in this temperature, as long as you have the latest thermals update?!

if you have the latest base and still your M9 is warm all the time then you have something heavy constantly running in the background, you should hunt it

with powersaver the situation will improve, the UI and gaming/gpu remain unaffected, the only instance where i see the device slowing down with the a57 cluster disabled is the camera app

since the first quad core phone came into existence, i taught myself never to use a phone heavily on the charger, i still want my battery undamaged
[One (M9) General] ref1ux:
Hmmm, I dunno. The M9 is definitely the warmest phone I've owned. I never found the One X to be particularly warm, but I didn't keep it very long. It could be that my M9 is particularly warm because it usually has fairly low signal, but that shouldn't really be the case. I think it's just a hot phone. There's nothing demanding running in the background that I can find and I'm on the latest SW version. The M8 I have runs much cooler and only gets warm when using sat nav. Same apps installed.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
well i dont know, it doesnt apply to my unit and my our weather is 25c now adays

so certainly when i find it hotter than usual there something processing

and the M8 was and still is the coolest Android flagships ever made but its definitely not the standard, as everyone else was hovering around 39c in normal usage

even the M8 when it done something heavy it got hot

can you try your usage with powersaver?
[One (M9) General] stevedebi:
Can't speak to your other points, but my US T-Mobile model does retain Power Saver mode after a reboot. I just did one last night (I try and power down once a week or so).
[One (M9) General] cougzzz:
The question that arises is why would a big company like LG settle for a lesser valued chip for their flagship device? The LG G flex incorporated the 810 but the G4 decided to go with the 808. For what? Sounds weird to me.

Nonetheless, love the m9 and hopefully the battery improves as things get panned out.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
it retains the icon but its not working my friend, if you check the CPU-Z the A57 cores are back online after reboot (powersaver disables the A57 quad)

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it sounds weirder that you think LG adopted s808 in the last second, an SoC with a completely different memory architecture, a decision like that needs to be taken months ahead

and the answer is very simple, the s808 is surely cheaper
[One (M9) General] diamond09:
The setting is just kidding us,, i have enabled the power saver mode from the beginning and the setting itself is being kept after a reboot, but it does have no function (juct checked with cpu-tuner). After just disable and enable only the setting for cpulimit) the 4 cores are down now, before they were all time on with minimum frequency 633Mhz.
[One (M9) General] th3:
Maybe poll for core and GPU voltages, that'll show you if the setting does anything.

And also, power state upper and lower thresholds.

Because that's what every power saving mode on any chip usually changes, called DVFS.

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[One (M9) General] stevedebi:
Ouch, yep, CPU-Z indicates those cores were running. Well, that is unfortunate. Actually, that means I've been getting an entire day of power without power saving! Pretty impressive, even with my relatively light use. It also explains why my unit has gotten slightly warm occasionally.
[One (M9) General] cougzzz:
Opening up the app drawer ever stutter for you guys?
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
nope
[One (M9) General] cougzzz:
It stutters for me only if I haven't opened up the app drawer for a long time. After that its buttery smooth.

Switched over to nova launcher and don't seem to have that issue.
[One (M9) General] Vogal:
Htc's are the first android phones that i dont need to use nova launcher :)
[One (M9) General] PunishedSnake:
I had the gs6 for 2 weeks and I can say it got hotter to the point where it became almost burning my fingers. On the screen and the right side. Im sure the glass in the back was blocking the heat.

Like m7, m8 the m9 feels hotter in the back due to the metal dispersing the heat. but the screen is no where near as bad as the gs6.

Thus why i am sticking to the m9. I sure do miss the finger print reader and camera but love multitasking again lol
[One (M9) General] reaktor TuT:
I have found that Screen Mirroring with ChromeCast causes my phone to heat up dramatically. Add in a video stream and it's dangerously hot.

The other one is GPS while plugged into power in the car. The first time I used it for 30mins the other day the GPS system failed and lost all satellites, I'm presuming due to being ridiculously hot.

I'm not sure how long the battery is going to last running at these temperatures.
[One (M9) General] trojamba:
Hi guys. I still have overheating problems after the latest update. After 10 or so active minutes my HTC will be warm... Is there any solution? Should I do a hard reset or deactivate some app?

Thanks in advance for help.
[One (M9) General] p50kombi:
Which update would that be?

I know this is your first post, but we really need more info on this...
[One (M9) General] trojamba:
Oh sorry. I have 1.32.401.15
[One (M9) General] p50kombi:
1.40 is incoming..

If I were you I'd hold out for that one...
[One (M9) General] micr0g:
Really bad for HTC to release a device like this.

I have change all the flagship devices (bla BLA bla) and my latest were M8,S6 and M9,i got both of them right now.

M9 is really slower than my previous M8 lol,all the time the device is hot,it lag (also inside the settings.app) a lot and you don't feel in your hand that it is a 8 core snapdragon but a 2 core device.

But it's a beautiful device for sure.

In my other hand S6 is fast,smooth,beautiful with a lot better display and boot in 8 secs lol.
[One (M9) General] sausje85:
Out of the blue today, with a game called "AdVenture Capitalist!" (which is a really simple game), it got up to 48! degrees...

First time ever, it was even quite cold today and room temp only around 19..

Auto background light, Viper 1.9.1 rom
[One (M9) General] zoome9:
Love ViperRom for their customizing features. But I always notice my device getting very hot.