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[Wing, P4350 General] falconeyez:
Where did you hear that from? I was going to replace my MDA because my power button is broken, but I guess I could wait for about a month.
[Wing, P4350 General] cuboosh:
they are phasin out the mdas.. i was told this by a rep on the phone..ive had 15 mdas in under a year..im super picky about my phone and they said after june5th they will send out tmob wings..dunno how true this is
[Wing, P4350 General] falconeyez:
The 5th? Well, I'm looking forward to it.
[Wing, P4350 General] marscandybars:
15?!?!?! How did you convince them that something was wrong; or what was wrong with your phones?
[Wing, P4350 General] cuboosh:
i came up with new reasons.. ill list them if u want
[Wing, P4350 General] falconeyez:
Wing and IP Calling

Does anyone know if the Wing will be preconfigured for IP calling?
[Wing, P4350 General] SuperRob:
Don't know why everyone is complaining about processor speed. I think it is a newer version of the processor, and we all know how these things go. Throw BatteryStatus on there and see how high it overclocks. :)
[Wing, P4350 General] mikebphoto:
i just ordered mine this morning. shuld be here in a day or so.
[Wing, P4350 General] papamopps:
The XDA terra in germany not- but you can install it by using WM6VoIP.cab
[Wing, P4350 General] papamopps:
It is FASTER than wizard - without anything. The mainspeed is much better. I think it is because of newer hardware. And batteryusage by batterystatus is down to 9mh idle.

I like the Terra.
[Wing, P4350 General] ANTC:
I'm ordering mine some time today
[Wing, P4350 General] papamopps:
Jippeehhh.

One more to cook roms for us. Hehe.

There are still some problems for cooked roms for wings and terras.

Perhaps we will find a way some day
[Wing, P4350 General] falconeyez:
Didn't you have to pay the $110 everytime you replaced the phone? And how did you get away with not "voiding the warranty" after the phone had been unlocked and flashed?
[Wing, P4350 General] ANTC:
Bad news..I called to have my MDA replaced with the Wing because of rumors..but they ****ed me over saying its too soon for use to allow Wings to replace the MDA, they asked me if i wanted a dash I said give me a new mda and hung up.. I'm mad but i'll wait since i just got this MDA in Feb i don't wanna drop another couple hundred.

Reflash the Stock OS they'll never know.
[Wing, P4350 General] usmc2k:
just got my wing today love it !!!!!!!!!! its smaller faster and feels more like a pda
[Wing, P4350 General] killerkhatiby009:
T-mobile should get more Windows Mobile phones, like they have in Europe. Plus they should hurry up with getting a 3G network. The wing is pretty cool, but it does not have enough to make me want to switch from the MDA. Although the keyboard on it is very nice.
[Wing, P4350 General] cuboosh:
nope cuz it was within the first year..
[Wing, P4350 General] newtomda:
My MDA is beyond the warranty. I'd much prefer to pay $110 to replace my MDA with the Wing than to have to pay $300 and extend my contract to buy it. How does one get the Wing as a replacement and only have to pay $110?
[Wing, P4350 General] falconeyez:
The rumor is if you wait until after June 5th, the company will send you a wing as a replacement. I'm assuming that you must have the handset insurance on your phone.
[Wing, P4350 General] cuboosh:
i do not have insurance on mine.. but after so many phones they offer you a different model and the only thing comparable is the wing so.. we'll see
[Wing, P4350 General] dman7777:
MSDN Deal via Tmobile

go to MSDN Offer Site, follow individual links to products, etc... read details. There are more details of the Wing deal @ fatwallet forums. $149+tax before rebate ($99 after rebate) for 1yr contract.
[Wing, P4350 General] leshan:
So, What did you tell them about the reason Why you do not like the MDA or something wrong with your MDA?
[Wing, P4350 General] Brau0303:
My Thoughts on The Wing

I now have one of these. Here are my thoughts..

Well I for the most part like this device, It is (as has already been said) an updated MDA. I believe that is is faster (likely the new OS and some hardware improvements combined) I say this because the MDA also was a tad faster with WM6 on it. I have two main complaints about it, 1. were is all the mem gone (i have already done tweaks to recover ram, but even a device tweaked with no apps or data only had about 18mb of ram free) I have all my must haves loaded and get about 12mb free. gripe # 2. is the device powering on if the keyboard is little more that bumped (I would love to disable this mode of power on, if anyone knows how please share this tip).

Cheers

BR
[Wing, P4350 General] falconeyez:
Here's Hoping!

Ok so I filed a claim on my busted MDA, I hope I get a Wing.
[Wing, P4350 General] falconeyez:
Booo! I just got another MDA! :mad:
[Wing, P4350 General] falconeyez:
Yes please!
[Wing, P4350 General] ANTC:
So does anyone kno when you'll be able to replace your MDA for a WING?
[Wing, P4350 General] cuboosh:
i tried once already.. they said its not avaiable yet.. but my acct is noted for the next time i call in for them to do the exchange without troubleshooting

list of reasons..

screen wont stayed aligned

speaker phone sounds distorted

bluetooth loosing connection

phone freezes up

phone stuck on red/green/blue screen

internal speaker sounds distored

keys on keyboard not working correctly

usb port not working (phone not charging half the time)

phone gets hot after 10+ minutes of talking on it

phone constantly restarts itself

phone sending calls to voicemail (turn on call filtering for this one..lol)

phone not getting all your text message (tell them the phone lights up but u dont get anything)

phone missing alot of calls (change ur radio to one u kno doesnt work)

...im trying to think of other reasons ive used.. ill update this once i remember them.

on a side note.. the wing has a serious memory problem.. ive gone to 2 tmobile stores and looked @ free ram of the wing and with 2 programs running it was down to 3-5mb.. im wondering if this problem is fixable because if it isnt there is going to be alot of unhappy people with their wings..
[Wing, P4350 General] falconeyez:
Awesome! Thanks!
[Wing, P4350 General] ANTC:
I just tell em its over heating im on like my 6th MDA so they dont even ask to troubleshoot with me lol
[Wing, P4350 General] leshan:
Do we have to have the insurance to get the exchange? Or Just under the warranty(one year?) to get a free exchange?
[Wing, P4350 General] ANTC:
well im sure its because of the stock rom we need a Cid unlocking method to have new roms fo rit
[Wing, P4350 General] leshan:
How do they deal with the exchange? Just under warranty or have to have the insurance? They send you a brand new one and then you send back the bad one?

Thanks.
[Wing, P4350 General] cuboosh:
i call tmobile and get transfered to blackberry and pda dept and do it with the 1yr warranty..all i have to pay is shipping and if i get it replaced again within 30days of the replacement they send me i dont have to pay for shipping
[Wing, P4350 General] falconeyez:
I have handset insurance through T-Mobile (They use a company called Asurion). I pay like $5 a month for insurance incase the phone breaks, gets lost, or stolen. When that happens I pay a deductable (in this case for the MDA $110) and they send me a new phone, and I send them back the broken one.
[Wing, P4350 General] cuboosh:
then in that case

id change the imei # and tell them the phone was stolen
[Wing, P4350 General] falconeyez:
In what case?
[Wing, P4350 General] cuboosh:
since u have insurance..
[Wing, P4350 General] falconeyez:
Then I would have to pay another $110. boooooooo! Bad idea! :eek:
[Wing, P4350 General] cuboosh:
nevermind..it obviously went over ur head
[Wing, P4350 General] intothevoid:
did anyone get the wing thru asurion yet ?
[Wing, P4350 General] falconeyez:
I did. Let's just say I miss my MDA, the Wing has some serious memory issues.:eek:
[Wing, P4350 General] ANTC:
so wait you called up and asked for a replacement they sent u a Wing?

its vaild now to swap em?
[Wing, P4350 General] falconeyez:
I guess so, the guy that I talked to asked me if I wanted one becuase they didn't have any MDAs.
[Wing, P4350 General] ANTC:
everytime ive tried it i got a mda ...umm il try it this week
[Wing, P4350 General] blackout203:
good Luck ANTC

would love for you to join the family lol

dis is saigon
[Wing, P4350 General] :
question

Guys, I switched over from the MDA to the Dash through a trade using Craigslist, turns out it's faulty, but T-Mobile says the 1-year manufacturer warranty is now void because I didn't acquire it myself. I find that pretty ridiculous considering someone could have given me a brand new phone and that transfer of warranty still wouldn't apply.

Anyway for me to get T-Mobile to exchange the handset through warranty or am I stuck with paying the deductible for insurance to replace it?

I want my MDA back...
[Wing, P4350 General] intothevoid:
Thanks for the info. Mine is coming monday
[Wing, P4350 General] ckavoosi:
MDA warranty replacement

I have had some issues w/ my MDA and need to get it replaced under the 1 year warranty through T-Mobile. If I CID unlocked the phone and installed a ROM how do I get it back to original factory spec's and do I even need to do that? i.e. do they check it.

Also has anyone had the MDA replaced through T-mobile under the 1-year warranty and received the Wing?
[Wing, P4350 General] leshan:
As my understanding, If you have insurance, then you can exchange to a new wing now. If you just have warranty, you can only exchange to a like new MDA now. Because the exchange under warranty, they give you a refurbished one. Refurbished Wing won't be available so soon.

Of course, we need to flash back to factory's rom to get warranty. You can download it from you T-mobile online account.
[Wing, P4350 General] leshan:
When you returned you MDA to them. Did you CID-lock your MDA back? Or just flashed the T-mobile official Rom? Will they check the CID thing?
[Wing, P4350 General] somefaghasmynick:
Curious about this too. I need to return my mda, and don't want to pay the coast of the phone cause tmobile considers the warranty void.....
[Wing, P4350 General] Johnna:
T-Wing answer button

Hi all,

I'm a noob at all of this so please bear with me.

I just got a T-Wing for fathers day and I've worked through a few issues here and there. But now I'm stuck on one and I'm hoping to get some direction or help from you all. (thanks in advance)

The problem I'm having has to do with the phone answer button. With keyboard locked, the phone answer button automatically activates when there is an incoming call. I'm sure it is set up that way as an easy answer "feature". Unfortunatly I have trouble getting it out of the case or my pocket without accidentally answering the phone before I have a chance to screen the call.

T-Mobile tech support has no answer, infact,that's how I learned about this site. Does anyone here know how to work around it? Hack? Third party apps?

Thanks,

John
[Wing, P4350 General] Johnna:
Yes, it has a pair of usb stereo earbuds. I got a Motorola S9 bluetooth stereo headset so I haven't tried the buds yet. The S9 is pritty sleek!
[Wing, P4350 General] xsign:
Go to "Start -> Settings -> Phone" and then pick the last tab (i guess its called "More"). There you can unset the automatic call pickup.

(or did you meant a truely hardware problem?)
[Wing, P4350 General] Johnna:
Yes, it has a pair of usb stereo earbuds. I got a Motorola S9 bluetooth stereo headset so I haven't tried the buds yet.

it also includes a USB splitter so you can listen and charge (or connect) at the same time.
[Wing, P4350 General] Johnna:
xsign,

Thanks for the quick response, I appreciate it.

I do not have auto pick-up enabled. My problem is that I keep accidentally hitting the phone answer key when I fish the wing out of my pocket ... or worse, it answers before I even realize it's ringing and the caller gets nothing but pocket noise.:rolleyes:

I'm looking to prevent incoming calls from automatically enabling the answer key on an otherwise locked phone. The T-Mobile tech guy sent me here to look for an answer.
[Wing, P4350 General] intothevoid:
seems like asurion has the MDA back in stock. One of my friends was filing a claim for his mda and they are gonna send him another MDA. I thought HTC stopped making them?. I already got a wing from them.
[Wing, P4350 General] Johnna:
How do all y'all deal with the answer button? Does anyone else see this as a problem? It drives me nuts!
[Wing, P4350 General] xsign:
Well since i have a HTC Herald with clean buttons its not a problem for me.
[Wing, P4350 General] blackout203:
yeah that problem never happens to me, it has to be a setting or a defective phone
[Wing, P4350 General] ssstonebraker:
Just Called Asurion

I just called Asurion today (6/27/2007) and told them i had a busted LCD screen. They told me they still have the MDA in stock and would ship me that as a replacement.

I asked them about the Wing and they told me they can't ship me that until their MDA stocks are depleted. They told me i can keep calling check if their MDA stocks have been depleted.

This is their #: asurion 1-866-268-7221

I'm going to keep calling back so i can get a Wing for $110 (Deductable)
[Wing, P4350 General] Johnna:
Blackout,

You raise an interesting point. I hadn't considered defect as a possibility (duh). Would you mind testing your T-Wing for me? With your phone locked, see if you can answer incoming calls with the green phone button.

John
[Wing, P4350 General] jzalkin:
I just called since my MDA screen died and I was offered a choice of MDA or Wing. It will be here tomorrow so I will see if it is really a Wing. I guess they have some ability to pick which phone they release. Really pleased with the service.
[Wing, P4350 General] blackout203:
Johnna

I answer it all the time, i have both cases and both never answer without me pressing the button. I'd def. call up and try to get a replacement
[Wing, P4350 General] JLine05:
I dont see why people are complaining of not enough memory. Ive had my Wing for a week now and just use the MicroSD card to store all of my stuff. I hear theres an 8GB MicroSD coming out!!
[Wing, P4350 General] PhillyKing:
I think the main problem is with Program Memory I've never had more than 8MB of 43.87 Total of it available and as I write this I currently have only 6.57MB w/ 37.30MB in use when I have nothing running.

The other side of that is a lot of programs need to be installed on the device in order to work and that can get eaten up fast by some apps.

Still I like my Wing and still getting use to it versus my Treo 650 which I still love too.

Oh those 4GB and over MicroSD cards might not be supported on the Wing or any older device that may use MicroSD.
[Wing, P4350 General] Johnna:
Thanks for checking Blackout. I'm getting more used to handling the phone and it's not the problem it used to be. A total key lock would still be nice but the urgency has dissipated a bit.

Now program memory .... that IS something I'd like to sort out. The camera constantly craps out for lack of memory.

Onward and upward!
[Wing, P4350 General] intothevoid:
anybody got the wing in place of a mda in the last few days? or if anyone knows asurian has ran out of mda once more ?
[Wing, P4350 General] ericizzy1:
hi

hi. i got 4 words for you:

page pool.

battery status.
[Wing, P4350 General] WarezAppz:
No, Assurion, stated that they will not replace a MDA with a Wing (I have one of each, and tried to replace the MDA with a Wing) Furthermore, they also stated that there is a deductable of 115$ (similar) to pay before they will replace. IMHO == SCAM - I promptly dropped the insurance.

I have no need, if something (God forbid) does happen to any of my devices, it makes more economical sense for me to just buy a NEW one from HTC Directly than to get a refurb or a new 'locked' one from them, where I will still have to shell out a good portion of the main cost for anyways.
[Wing, P4350 General] ssstonebraker:
I always had issues with this when using the MDA (precursour to Wing). Install BatteryStatus (it has a freakign sweet keylock feature) http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1504
[Wing, P4350 General] jzalkin:
They replaced my MDA with a Wing - gave me a choice. $110 deductable.
[Wing, P4350 General] ssstonebraker:
Jzalkin, who was your service provider? I just called Ausrion today and told me they still have the MDA in stock and they wouldn't replace mine with a wing (I told them my LCD was cracked :p )

Man this sucks, i want that wing!
[Wing, P4350 General] bbawkon:
I just got off the phone with Assurion. The Touchscreen on my T-Mobile MDA Stopped working, and I needed a replacement.

The rep I spoke with happily replaced it with a Wing instead of an MDA. This was not five minutes ago.

That was the first time I've ever dealt with Assurion after having their coverage for nearly two years, and I have to say, their service was exemplary.

My wing will be here on Monday. Looking forward to it.
[Wing, P4350 General] blackout203:
Post pics or something to prove you got it, if you can...
[Wing, P4350 General] itje:
lol, I had a insurance on my Mteor, it broke, and I sent it in. After 2 months of calling the insurance company and the support at the store where I bought it, I finally was gonna get my phone, but they didnt have the mteor anymore, so they sent me a s710.... :cool: But I was not up for a smartphone again, so I asked at the store if I could switch with another phone....so I picked HTC p4350.. (was to early for Touch :( ) Because I knew it would get a wm6 free upgrade.

I think that was a great deal :) in Norway (where I live) The mteor is alot cheaper then the p4350 :)
[Wing, P4350 General] WarezAppz:
Good for you but . . . .

Good for you that they replaced with a wing, but deductable of 100$+ um . . .

I have one One thing to post about that:

http://www.letstalk.com/popups/price_detail_popup.htm?pgId=100&devicePrId=32869&name=T-Mobile Wing&servicePrId=&dontUsePopts=1

Accessible via http://www.america.htc.com

Call T-Mobile - tell them about the offer - hint that you've been a loyal customer and are feeling neglected that others can get things that you can't cheaper. they offer you the same deal - just extending your contract and 'voila'.

The point is: I did similar to get my wing cheaper than as advertised. Paying MORE for a replacement than I did to initially buy the device is still a rip off.
[Wing, P4350 General] jzalkin:
I don't remember and have the shipping receipt in the office. If you still want it on monday, I'll check if it is on it - let me know
[Wing, P4350 General] ssstonebraker:
Service provider would be like "Tmobile" or "Cingular". i am just curious what company runs your cell phone service for the wing
[Wing, P4350 General] jzalkin:
Sorry - thought you wanted the service guys name who I dealt with. It was Asurian for T-mobile.

When I called he said that I could choose between the MDA or a "toy surprise." He said that they had plenty of MDA's left and that many just stuck with the same phone since they are used to it.

I figured, new phone - no contract (mine is out) for $110 is well worth it.
[Wing, P4350 General] joeybarney:
I just got off the phone with Asurion. I've been living with an MDA with no external speaker for about three weeks now, but was waiting until I saw some evidence that it could be replaced with a Wing before I made the call.

Unfortunately, as of tonight Asurion has the MDA in stock, so no Wing for me...yet. The rep told me I can try back for up to 30 days. So if I get any good news, I'll let everyone know.
[Wing, P4350 General] leshan:
Anybody got the wing in place of a mda in the last few days?
[Wing, P4350 General] ssstonebraker:
i just called them and they wouldn't tell me if they had any in stock. i asked the rep if he had replaced any mda's with wings recently and he said he had. he was being a jerk though, woudln't budge... he said i'd find out which one i got after i filed the claim, and i told him i wasn't going to take that risk.

grrr i want that wing!
[Wing, P4350 General] TylerC161:
Im pissed!!!!

Okay, I got my phone a few weeks ago from Letstalk. I got the almost free deal, I signed up for internet and 1000 minutes and free text..

Well now the internet is $10 cheaper, and so is the 1000 minutes plan.. Meaning I could save $20 a month.

BUT NO..

I called tmobile, they said they cant do anything, its probably a letstalk promotion.. well I called them, and they said it has cant be over 7 days of me owning the phone if I want this discount. I've had it for about 2-3 weeks. WTF..

She said (letstalk) that if I wanted the discounted prices, and it was UNDER the 7 day limit she was talking about, that I would have to completely return my phone and service, then resign up for another phone and service..

Which really wouldnt do me any good, because they're out of the phone!!

Horrible service this last call.. Which is wierd, I've had NO problems in the 3 years with them.
[Wing, P4350 General] youheartnrt:
Just called.. still getting it replaced with MDA

My MDA is broken and I called T-mobile today to get it replaced. I'm still under my one year warranty and they said they would send me a replacement 'MDA', so sadly, no Wing for me. :(

TO: joeybarney

Please let me know if you do hear anything new in the next 30 days and if so, how you asked for it. Thank you!
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steve51184:
The phone is a normal first gen moto g 8gb which i tried to turn into a gpe phone to get lollipop but failed....

This is the boot loop: http://i.imgur.com/LXHY7D3.jpg

Lucky i can still get into fastboot: http://i.imgur.com/869jRVD.jpg

And recovery is: http://i.imgur.com/CV0QuOw.jpg

i have the right software and firmware i need to flash i just can't get into adb mode something is wrong with recovery.. i guess.. :(
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] audit13:
To fix the issue, I recommend using fastboot commands to flash a stock 4.4.4 ROM and then check for 5.02 OTA updates for the stock ROM.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steve51184:
Awesome idea any decent guides on here for this? My searches fail :(
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] audit13:
Flashing stock: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2542219

Possible source for ROM: http://www.filefactory.com/folder/c6cdedc45a775d27/?sort=filename&order=ASC&show=100&page=1
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steve51184:
should i use:

XT1032_RETAIL-EU_4.4.4_KXB21.14-L1.40_36_cid7_CFC_1FF.xml

or

XT1032_RETAIL-GB_4.4.4_KXB21.14-L1.40_36_cid7_CFC_1FF.xml

i'm in England (so both eu and gb apply) so really not sure which.... i guess i'll try gb first :eek:
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] audit13:
You could try either one if they are made for the xt1032 you have.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steve51184:
I chose 'gb' and excellent i'm now on a working firmware for the first time in a month+ so i thank you for that i really do

next problem is it's 4.4.4 and not lollipop and says it's 'up to date' when i check for an update boo.. how do i get lollipop? :(
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] audit13:
Did you log into the Play store and update all Motorola apps, particulary Motorola Update services? You must be unrooted and running stock recovery in order for the update to install.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steve51184:
no i did not... doing that now :fingers-crossed::good:
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steve51184:
i sure did i had stock recovery and logged into my Google account and updated ALL apps in the play store and rebooted a couple time but still no update when i checked

i then manually searched for 'Motorola Update services' and it guess what? it needs an update yet it's not in the 'my apps' list in the play store? odd.. but anyway i updated it... then tried a manual update and boom 5.02 :)

let see if it all installs ok.. is there any xposed for lollipop/art yet? even alpha/beta/etc?
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steve51184:
Everything worked perfectly thank you :)

http://i.imgur.com/qGnVRmj.jpg