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[One (M9) General] tasos12:
Htc one m9

Hey people I just want to say my opinion for the M9.

The M9 is clearly an attempt to wipe out all the excuses people had about buying the ONE series.

They gave up the ultrapixel camera (but smartly they kept it as front facing) in the back and replaced it with a 20MP camera.

Sure the 20MP has some issues with low light but HTC claims there will be a software update that will solve all this as up to know the software is not the final ONE.

Also they added SD card which is another issue many people used as an excuse not to buy HTC.

Now we all know M8 was pretty slippery so they improved that too.

Add to all the above the latest Qualcom Processor and voila you have a great phone.

I have read all the reviews and head to head reviews with S6 and I have to say they are pretty vindictive and one sided.

Bare to mind that they said all the same things when they compared M8 with S5 when we all know S5 was (and sales showed that as well) a pretty mediocre device.

At the time they blamed HTC for non replaceable battery and no SD card slot however now that Samsung gave up that they seem to "forget" this is their reviews. Strange huh? :D

They said the design is pretty much the same as before but the design was great looking since M7 so all you need is some detail upgrading which HTC did.

All in all I think M9 as great phone which is why I will upgrade to it from my M7.

I have had a series of HTC phones starting from Touch Cruise to Desire S to HTC ONE X (great phone by the way) to HTC ONE M7 and I am pretty much happy with them.

I am not saying the firm has some problems specially in service side but all the models I used were very reliable with premium feeling and I enjoyed the envious looking from Samsung Galaxy users.

Have you ever seen anyone admiring a Samsung model?

But thats just me......
[One (M9) General] *Emix*:
Pocketnow: S6 vs. M9 Turning The Tables

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[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Dude the software is final since it was released in Taiwan, now if you mean they will release perhaps improvements over OTA then yes
[One (M9) General] Rage1ofakind:
This is the final software: 1.32.401.15. Most reviews were done with 401.6 / the one before that.

Both S6 & HTC One M9 are beasts. Super fast, fluid phones. And they actually run better than stock 5.0. So they'll be even better with the 5.1 update (Stable version of Lollipop, how it was meant to be)

Been using the M9 since Friday and I Love it. Have had no problems. It's a joy to use. All these gloomy reviews mean nothing when you hold it in your hand and actually use it :).
[One (M9) General] th3:
Been using it since yesterday...

First impressions, mixed bag.

Physically, aesthetically, it's better and feels smaller and lighter than the M8. I have them both side by side. M9 is better, physically.

Some other things are a major let down. All those major reviews, they weren't lying, at all.

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[One (M9) General] gharris040604:
Seems like everyone has forgot about the update nightmare debacle with Samsung, I still haven't received 5.0 yet on my note 4. I ordered a htc m9 this morning will be here tomorrow. I'll hold on to my n4 since it's probably the last Sammy device with a microsd.

P. S. Remember when apple did glass backs that was a nightmare but seems the reviewers have forgot about that
[One (M9) General] Duncan1982:
I have had my M9 since early yesterday and yes the Camera could have and should have been better, its not poor and any pro photographers will never use a smartphone ever.

So that for me is the only weakness if you want to place that there.

Samsung is getting the buzz for two reasons.

1) build its Samsung's first premium flagship bar the note 4 and first in the S range. But wait glass front and back its been done. The Z range from Sony and fingerprints I'm sure customers will be happy to constantly clean to keep up the appearance lol.

2)The very expensive edge and whilst this is the better looking of the two, I can't justify paying that for no real added functionality or for my use anyway.

So yea Samsung have done great but the buzz is there because of the above.

Htc is still the better looking and built device and within the build you have function the feel and those boomsound front firing speakers. It has style and the s6 has the glitz all sparkly until those smudges appear lol
[One (M9) General] gharris040604:
Check out android central review of the s6
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
what about it?
[One (M9) General] gharris040604:
It was unbiased vs the other interviews I've read. Just saying most reviewers are downing the M9, while AC is actually acknowledging the faults of Sammy that's all
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
I guess there like the only ones not getting paid by Samsung lol
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Can you do photo comparison for daylight between M9 and N4?
[One (M9) General] gharris040604:
Absolutely! Mine will be here tomorrow
[One (M9) General] Adam182:
Touchwiz is still a potato :)

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[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
I am a far older htc fan than you and I am entitled to say why this phone is not a worthy upgrade coming from M8, calling a cat a cat
[One (M9) General] th3:
- Stock Charger is 5v 1.5A TC P900-UK

- YES I got the earbuds too (unbranded phone):

- M9 doesn't heat up (to the touch) whilst charging using the stock HTC and HTC Fast Charger.

- During regular browsing, and video/cam, it's running perfectly unnoticeable in temperature.

- The screen is lower brightness in full, half, lowest and auto than M8 - very clearly.

- The contrast and saturation seem off on the display - it has a dull greeny overlay on everything. White Balance is worse than M8 by quite a distance. Camera WB, metering and focus is off badly most of the time (and mile's better on the M8).

- Viewing angles are slightly worse than M8 but the reflectance seems the same.

- Sense and the software, including keyboard, audio and vibration, is definitely an upgrade for M8 users [emoji106]

More snippets to come incl pics showing the above.

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[One (M9) General] Duncan1982:
Did you read what I said dude? I said your entitled so please don't accuse me of something that I did not say.

Thank you.
[One (M9) General] Adam182:
Dont feel accused Duncan, he will do anything to pull out the "im a far older htc fan than you" line, if i had a pound for everytime ive seen him write that i would be a rich man - Adam
[One (M9) General] Duncan1982:
Its all cool Adam would take more than that to really wind me up & even then a mark twain quote springs to mind :P

So how is your M9 experience?
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
How's your battery life been so far?
[One (M9) General] Adam182:
Absolutely love it, feels outstanding in the hand and looks fantastic

Screen wise its just perfect, no better or worse than my M8, the colours are slightly different but neither for better or worse in my eyes.

The camera needs to mature somewhat but it will do for my needs as it is - Adam

No different from my M8 really, I'm never really far from a charging port and if I ever was planning to be more than a day I would just take my battery pack :) - Adam
[One (M9) General] Duncan1982:
Note I have only had my M9 since yesterday but I was quite heavy on it today, bit of camera test (very brief) web browsing, listening to music & social media oh and a few YouTube vids and it held up rather nicely :)

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Did you opt for the silver & gold or gunmetal grey?

I just had to go for the silver & gold and love it, but the gunmetal was appealing to, yet to see it in person to regret my decision :P

Yeh their is that difference in screen slightly cooler colours but still great.

The camera is fine for my needs and I'm sure software updates will bring it up to a nice level, maybe not on par with the S6 but the M9 for me offers more.

The Audio on this is fantastic, was so immersed with my RHA's and listening to a bit of Eddie Vedder, Ryan Adams, Dubfx, Savant.

Yeh I'm delighted with my choice.

Oh have you listened to the Dolby audio sample on YouTube Adam?
[One (M9) General] Adam182:
I went for the silver/gold because my M8 was gunmetal. On the pictures I actually preferred the gunmetal version of the M9 but I wanted a fresh colour to look at.

I also am yet to see gunmetal in person.

It's goes without saying the audio on the M9 is outstanding.

Yes I heard i the Dolby preview yesterday sounds remarkable doesn't it. I'm also going to have to update my music library, I have a lot of bad quality tracks and the clarity of the audio on the M9 really makes it stand out - Adam
[One (M9) General] Duncan1982:
likewise don't think I have any flac files so must update myself :)

Yeh that Dolby video was incredible as the speaker's ain't that far apart but dam you notice the effects :)

I have the all gold M8 which I really like also but the silver on gold was a nice choice all round I think (until I see the gunmetal in person)

I had some hand on time with the S6 and whilst its a vast improvement, it just doesn't excite me as the M9 does :P

The edge would be my variant of choice but couldn't afford to.
[One (M9) General] Adam182:
I didn't even know they did an all gold M8.

I agree with you about the S6, I would have to get the edge but it has glaring issues it my eyes...

No SD expansion, Touchwiz and the fact that it still looks like a Samsung phone - Adam
[One (M9) General] Duncan1982:
All gold M8 taken with my M9 :P

Yeh the apple influences eh Adam in reference to the S6 :P
[One (M9) General] AnubuRe:
Hmmm, been reading this thread the past few weeks and what can i say???

I think a big problem is owners of previous versions are expecting too much, same goes for all next\new version fones really.

I also think manufacturers bringing out a new version of fones each year is a bad move, whether greed or because they feel its demanded by ppl (greed again) or both i know not. (all my opinion of cause) once bi-yearly would give them ample time to simply make better sh*t ;)

Me? im coming from a SGS2 that ive had 4 yrs now and its time for a new fone, so for me IF i get the m9 i'm sure ill be very happy with it..... and when the m10 comes out nx yr ill probably look at it and say bah, same ole. (thats what i said about the galaxy s2-5)

The S6 edge looks fantastic, was looking at it along with the m9 in a shop last week and i was very impressed with its looks, but i wont be getting a Samsung-Iphone Galaxy 6, the removal of sd card and changable batt killed my liking of Samsung (those were key factors in my choosing it 4 yrs ago)

So i had a play with the edge & the m9 and the m9 is a contender for my nx fone, really good looking fone and nice size.

It does seem from reviews that HTC did mess up on camera but seeing as i'm used to a 4 yr old fone im sure id be happy with it.

Its a shame that being able to remove the battery on fones now is becoming very rare....for ppl like me who not only are heavy users but also intend to keep a fone for more than a yr and the batt will probably be quite deminished after a yr....i guess ill have to pull it apart an fit a new one.

I remember when i 1st saw the m7 and was like wow, then found i couldn't change the batt nor use sd card killed my interest.

Gonna wait a few weeks after the m9 has been out then decide.... on that, Sony Z3 or G Flex2, but the M9 is ahead so far.

Peace
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
Good 4 you.

Sent from a mobile gadget...
[One (M9) General] th3:
Standby battery life is excellent!

2% in 8hrs while I slept.. it was 72% when I went bed

M8 also drained 2% in the same period.
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Thanks for these facts, at least you give objective points instead of personal attack on people who are not praising the M9, like some children did toward me ;)

Please keep updating your findings about the M9, how's the screen visibility under sunlight?
[One (M9) General] th3:
I wanted another take for the rest of us, other than a die hard fanboys [emoji4]

- Screen visibility is very similar to the M8 (side by side) but brightness isn't, so you may have to jump to manual brightness.
[One (M9) General] *Emix*:
[YOUTUBE]fNN0I4zB5Wk[/YOUTUBE]

Any M8 user still want to "upgrade"?

It looks like Qualcomm sadly killed them this time.
[One (M9) General] SPreston2001:
Damn this breaks my heart....
[One (M9) General] jonnycat26:
HTC was complicit too. Going with a cheaper screen and imaging sensor didnt help them.
[One (M9) General] dratsablive:
Got my M9 on Wednesday, upgrading from an S4, and so far I love it. The sound when playing videos is far superior to what I was used to. But the one feature I love is the 100gb of free google drive (For two years.)
[One (M9) General] th3:
So... What do people want to know about the M9? :)

Fire away!

I have an M8 here too...

Yup! I found the same.

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[One (M9) General] hung2900:
I had a topic in Q&A asking for somebody having both devices to test it but nobody answered.

After some investigation, I think it seems that the problem is HTC underclocks and throttles the CPU heavily to reduce the heat and increase battery life, leading to lower computing power than even the M8. Don't believe in the benchmark coz HTC cheated (according the Anandtech)
[One (M9) General] VictorC:
Can you disable the lockscreen notifications for stuff like Battery saver or Dolby Audio? This is really bugging me on the M7 and M8...
[One (M9) General] stevedebi:
Nope, that permanent notification was added with the latest update on my M8, and is still on my M9. The icon for Power Saver was always on the status bar up top, but in this latest version they added all status bar icons to the pull down (one finger), and on the lockscreen. I don't particularly like it either, and I wish it could be customizable.

The other thing I don't like is them flashing the LED at 10 percent remaining. What does the LED do? Drain battery! I leave it off for everything I can. What does the phone do when it gets to 9% or so? Flash the LED - leading to quicker battery depletion just when you need all the battery you can get! Considering the M9 automatically goes into extreme saving mode at 9%, this makes no sense at all.
[One (M9) General] barleysoda:
I have the M9 and my work phone is an M8. Regardless of the benchmarks previously posted, my Sprint M9 running stock seems to be snappier then my Verizon M8 although my M8 is running skydragon rom and not stock.

The M8 has a brighter screen then the M9 with both set to the same manual brightness setting (about 60%).

The M9 has a blueish/greenish tint compared to the M8 as they are sitting next to each other. IMO the M8 screen is better.

The speakers on the M9 are better and more clear than the M8 but maybe not quite as loud. The dolby surround is insane on the M9 when watching dolby atmos youtube vids.

Both cameras are not impressive, To me they both have focusing issues. The M9 seems to have a little better color then the M8, at least it looks truer to what it should be as the M8 photos are sometimes too warm. I was comparing photos from each phone on a computer monitor and not the phones screens due to the blue tint on the M9 throwing the comparisons off. The front selfie camera on the M9 is better and actually the best I have ever used for a front facing camera on a phone.

I like the body of the M9 better than the M8. It just feels better in the hand and easier to hold. Not nearly as slick feeling. I also like the volume and power buttons better on the M9.

Bottom line, I wouldn't upgrade an M8 to an M9. Just not enough differences to make it worth it IMO. I upgraded an LG G2 to an M9 and it was absolutely worth it. I gave up a little in the camera department but everything else is better and now people can hear me clearly during a phone call. Phone calls are important part of a cell phone, more important to me than a camera.
[One (M9) General] davidtm0:
On my M7, I went to the "Power" app in Settings>Apps and did a Force stop. That killed the notification, but Power Saver was still on.

I've done the same on my M9 with the same result. :good:

Cheers!
[One (M9) General] stevedebi:
Well, that works, but it is sure clumsy. Has to be done every time I go back into power save mode. But thanks for the suggestion!
[One (M9) General] th3:
To not mislead people, I'm gonna have to be brutally honest here,

- The standby idle battery life is quite amazing... You'll see 100-180mA values pretty routinely.

22hr and 52% used 1.5hr SOT [emoji4]

But when I started playing Fifa 15, it lasted 2 hours after that. Battery dead.

M8 lasted 3.5 hours from that mark. That's a massive decrease (!)

- The second thing is, playing Fifa 15 the phone becomes acceptably warm but what's not OK is it starts lagging and stuttering, very noticeable. The graphics, I mean and you'll hate it. The M8 doesn't even lag in Power Saver mode.

- The third, WiFi and cell network performance and signal is not good. Same all settings, it's worse than the M8 and drops a lot.

M9

M8

- Lastly, the sound. I tried again and again... The sound thru headphone is not matching the M8. The fidelity is better at low volume and the soundstage, but the bass is lower, weaker and the voice not as clear. They've used audio gain, so the lowest volume is pretty loud, louder than the M8 but there is a constant screeching and hissing... Background noise, all the way through. Any video (YouTube) or mp3/flac song I played. With the stock and 3 other headphones!

The sound advantages, on most vids and tracks, we already had using ViperFX on the M8.

For those who know about audio...this usually happens when using audio gain.

All Auto, Indoor Restaurant Reception,

Menu

M8

M9

Floor

M8

M9

Random photos shot while passing..

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[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Hey is that Kababji or Roadster restaurant? :)
[One (M9) General] th3:
It's called Akash ;)

Ite absolute quality (and I don't eat spicy). Won North UK food contests for many many years since 1986.

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BTW, the floor shot on the M9 under bright LED lighting, with auto, was far superior to the M8.

I'll link to full res soon.
[One (M9) General] MSIOCGenie:
Every reviewer I've seen has praised the sound in headphones, saying it's even better than on the M8? Perhaps you were running Dolby Audio? Because that could certainly mess it up if it's not from the speakers.
[One (M9) General] rkial:
So you lasted 2 hours of Fifa with 48% left?

Isn't that on course for 4hrs SOT while gaming? Not that bad.

If the M8 really lasted 7 hrs SOT while gaming, that was amazing (3.5x2)
[One (M9) General] th3:
They've said loudspeaker... Can you show me a headphone test?

Loudspeakers are indeed excellent.

Dolby Headphone mode runs auto.

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Yes, 4hrs SOT playing FIFA.

Which is poor - a downgrade from M8. I get 6.5hrs with M8, easily.
[One (M9) General] MSIOCGenie:
GSMArena.com?
[One (M9) General] th3:
I'm talking to HTC about this... See what's up.

Because this headphone quality is very very poor. And everyone will notice it at once. So I don't understand what's going on here
[One (M9) General] Cryosx:
Just to make sure but did you set the headphone settings to other (instead of HTC ear buds/HTC in ear/HTC pro)?
[One (M9) General] rulala:
[MENTION=4167023]AndreiLux[/MENTION]

Do you know Why s810 show 28nm

Or it just cpu-z show wrong information.

who know Which app can show cpu process ?
[One (M9) General] th3:
Yep I tried every setting... I know this can't be normal, no way.
[One (M9) General] th3:
I took some shots comparing landscape in good daylight, with all 3 cams, the results are surprising. Best of 3 is shown:

Random Landscape, Good Light (sun out with clouds)

Fujifilm XS-1 12mp - M, all auto

M9 20mp - all auto + the standard settings

M8 4mp - all auto

Judge for yourself ;)

Standard Settings: the M9 suffers cam dynamic range, sharpness, contrast, saturation, white balance and color problems and these settings correct those flaws somewhat (even M8 suffers in some, but I haven't corrected that). These I use in every shot. Medium size, Sharpness, -1, Contrast +0.5, Saturation +0.5.

NB: My bottom bar on M8 is not stock, it's the small navbar (and as you can see, it gives you a smaller navbar than on M9)
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Try with HDR because with both HTC the sky is ''burned'' (washed out)
[One (M9) General] AndreiLux:
CPU-Z doesn't actually read out that information, it's populated in a information database by the developers. It can be wrong.
[One (M9) General] iceboy1988:
2 Questions

hi

anybody Test and play Clash of Clans on M9 ?

how log battry daed 100% to 0% paly Clash ? 4 houres or higher ?

AND 1 important Question

is M9 heat a lot ? CPu-z what temp in Normal Works ( internet /WeB? play ViDeo)
[One (M9) General] th3:
I'll test it soon.

I've already tested that, but that's for HDR mode test ;)

Yep, blown highlights with both phones in normal daylight where you have a slight shadow or sunlight.

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[One (M9) General] MSIOCGenie:
Maybe your device is faulty? A lot of people are saying that the volume as well as sound quality has been improved.
[One (M9) General] th3:
Volume hasn't, even in the reviews. But I'm talking to HTC to see what's what.

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[One (M9) General] brholt6:
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-m9-overheating-594799/

Something actually relevant to the argument and not a random quote that doesn't support what I'm saying a single bit.
[One (M9) General] Security555:
Just read it and forget about "overheating problem" . Make up you mind about Samsung in general. Enjoy http://semiaccurate.com/2015/03/02/behind-fake-qualcomm-snapdragon-810-overheating-rumors/
[One (M9) General] smudgelab:
What a genuinely interesting article, thanks for posting that. Some pretty bold claims indeed and the analogy of qualcomm being the victim of a drive by, very good. Could even relate to htc as being a similar victim in the chip shootout as their point appears to indicate a Samsung - LG battle as the "main event". Thanks again, a real good read... :good:
[One (M9) General] tmac31:
Its interesting people dont believe reviews but some page says its fake and believes it instant. There is an obvious problem with s810 but it cant be that bad just wait and see more reviews. Dont rush to any s810 device yet. I m sure it will be better htc confirmed its about pre-release software so this reviews were right stop bashing people.
[One (M9) General] SPreston2001:
Ummm I could've sworn it was the complete opposite. Smaller dies use smaller transistors, which have less resistance, which use less electricity, which in turn generates less heat. That's usually why they can use a smaller fan when they shrink the die on laptop processors and such. The new Intel chips are able to be used without a fan in the new ultra thin laptops.
[One (M9) General] Rage1ofakind:
'Full' reviews will come out end of this week / beginning of next week. Let's wait for more concrete news and views, rather than taking this article as truth. The screen is better. And the phone should not have a heat issue like this, we'll find out soon enough.
[One (M9) General] Adam182:
Correct, we've all realised Applesexual is a troll and he will pull any information from anywhere whether it be true or false or even make any sense at all in order to bash on HTC.

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Fantastic read! thanks for the link :) - Adam
[One (M9) General] VictorC:
A review that - from what I could understand - is pretty favorable to the M9.

it's in german, btw:

http://www.computerbild.de/artikel/cb-News-Handy-HTC-Hima-One-M9-11194687.html

Maybe some german-speaking users can accurately translate some info from that review... ;)