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[General Topics] TourisT:
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thanks to www.todopocketpc.com , the user Sanfe, and mssmobiles:

"O2 Asia no more, welcome MWG!

November 03, 2007 [General] | By Edward J. Rutkowski.

O2 is withdrawing from Asia but old O2 Asia team has created new a new company - MWG. Interestingly the new company will continue good old tradition of releasing Windows Mobile phones. Even though O2 Asia has dumped HTC is manufacturer - for the sake of Quanta mainly - it was always a strong supporter of Windows Mobile. Now the MWG will continue this tradition and apart from supporting old Xda phones, it even preannounces future Windows Mobile phones: "Xda Atom 4", "Xda Flame 2" and "Xda Zinc 2"!

MWG is a new face in the Smart Phone market, based in Singapore the international hub where European style and quality meets and mingles with Asian industry and innovation we aim to bring a fresh approach to mobile communications and mobile computing.

The team at MWG includes all the former management of O2 Asia, MWG will continue to support O2 device owners and channel partners and we have inherited an exciting roadmap which we will deliver through 2008.

Browse the site today, and come back soon, it will be developing significantly over the next few months and we will make all our exciting new product announcements here first!"

flame 2 anounced:

http://www.mwg.com/xda-atom-life.aspx
[General Topics] Yudgin:
Please, write your full act.

Very much people can't entered in bootloader...

We have a ROM image, but can't open bootloader.

Please help me and all peoples...
[General Topics] psyCORe:
my finding today on intel2700g on Axim vs Goforce5500 on Flame

gawd, unexpected Axim pawn Flame... :eek:
[General Topics] HDJ80:
First photography from bootloader mode.

sorry, it is taked with N70.

Text in screen said "UPDATE EBOOT nb0 via SD CARD."

IMPORTANT: I used sandisk 2GB micro SD card formated in Flame with resco file explorer.

With this card in the Flame, push and hold pulsed at least for 3 seconds the 2 keys "-" in the flame, now you reset and hold the keys and waiting boot and hold the keys.

Do not release the keys "-" at any time.

Make backup before try it.
[General Topics] CWKJ:
Suggest you get someone help to video you making the Flame into Bootloader.

We all tried but cannot get into it.
[General Topics] HDJ80:
Are you used one micro SD card formated in Flame with resco file explorer?

Look at this http://www.xdaflameusers.com/viewtopic.php?id=224&p=2
[General Topics] HDJ80:
The video is in ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/uploads/upload/MVI_0391.avi

Sorry, only 20 sec. but 12MB.
[General Topics] jags1:
flame 2

plz share it if anyone knows anything about flame2 what is it? looks like we won't get any rom upgrade until they release and sell flame2 first,anyone working on rom,any progress? tahnks
[General Topics] zakeen:
Ive been busy looking around the web from time to time seaching for the flame 2 and I cant seem to find anything at the moment. im kinda hanging out for it as I need a new phone and was thinking about the flame. But I know, if I buy the flame, flame 2 will come out the next day!
[General Topics] thierryb:
Please buy the flame !

And flame 2 will come!

And we will get wm06 for our flame !
[General Topics] zakeen:
as I was typing my post I was thinking someone was going to say that. If I had money to burn then yes I would buy the flame and then the flame 2 the next day :)
[General Topics] jags1:
wrote o2 and mwg

i sent an email questioning o2 about upgrades and same thing with mwg,wrote them too, no one answered ,so i guess they have no answers left for us.
[General Topics] Yudgin:
Hi all!

I have lost the bootloader in my FLAME as a result wrong upgrade ROM.

Now i try to recovery device through JTAG.

YOUR HELP is NECESSARY!!!!!

It is necessary for me to a high quality foto of the device without a back wall (cover).

If you already prized your FLAME, or for you warraty was already completed - please, help me!

Remove the battery, unscrew screws, remove a back cover and make foto.

We will be knocked down, that 5 contacts near Sim-slot. I hope, that it and is JTAG and together we can fiтв correspondence of contacts.

This operation will serve then as a guide on recovery of the device killed by an upgrade.

I'm sorry for my bad English
[General Topics] Yudgin:
Ok, i get foto! :)

See http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=58179&view=findpost&p=1170636
[General Topics] aamoxda:
FCC documents

This link must be usefull for you.

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=749423&native_or_pdf=pdf

:)
[General Topics] Yudgin:
very nice job!!!!

Big-big thanks!!!!!
[General Topics] mrinternet:
XDA Flame WM5 Anyone tried any SDHC Hacks?

sdhc.777 of course killed any micro SD from working.. :eek:

uninstalled..ok now.

I Have a 6GB from my hermes I MUST MAKE IT WORK..
[General Topics] HDJ80:
Flames in ebay 540$ (364€)

http://cgi.ebay.es/NEW-O2-XDA-Flame...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[General Topics] thierryb:
Discussed here:

http://www.xdaflameusers.com/viewtopic.php?id=14
[General Topics] jags1:
anybody tried cyberon voice-command if that works on flame? meant to work perfect.
[General Topics] Demon:
Any way to cook a WM6 rom? Any such project ongoing?
[General Topics] thierryb:
We have started to work on that with cwkj on xdaflameusers.com and probably other have tried on 4pda.ru.

But because we are not able to flash securely a rom, we are not encouraged to even modify the wm5 rom.

We are also waiting other devices designed by Arima for Imate on the Ultimate serie that would have wm6 and probably the same design and components.

Visit us at XFU.
[General Topics] AKTOPSHOOTER:
Does anyone know of a good keyboard cab to run on the flame? I have tried to load the cooltek one however nothing happens it just uses the original even when selected. I also have downloaded the keyboard through O2 connect however it is just way too big taking up the majority of the screen. If anyone has a great keyboard to use please pass it along
[General Topics] TourisT:
I have the same problem with third party keyboards

try to uninstall SPB products (pocket plus,...)
[General Topics] ccc:
It has been found how to flash an OS image to XDA Flame ROM:

http://www.xdaflameusers.com/viewtopic.php?id=344

Now the way to make custom ROM should be open. All the best,

devictoria
[General Topics] ecsk2:
This what it seems contract builder has built (and/or will build?) some other interesting things too :)

http://www.arimacomm.com.tw/English/capa01_b.html

http://www.arimacomm.com.tw/English/capa01_a.html

Find anything interesting in the list(s)? ;)
[General Topics] thierryb:
Not having a keyboard was a requierement for me. It reduce the size and the weight and the price.
[General Topics] ecsk2:
Ok heh, I can live without keyboard but def prefer having one.

If only the O2 Flame would have EDGE I'd be happy.
[General Topics] S1MB4D:
EDGE

i didnt mind not having EDGE as i mainly use WiFi, rarely ever used 3G. I have had the phone for about 1 week i have a few annoyances, these being the damn battery drains toooo quickly!!! i cant figure out how to backup and how to save the contacts on outlook!

any one help with these?

Cool points being man the Graphics chip is AWESOME!!! get the new RC! for the TCPMP and set to raw with continuous zoom and it works like a charm! i upgraded from XDA 2i so may seem a little bit childish but sdmall improvements in my eyes have made a massive difference!
[General Topics] leek:
Well, it's supposed to have 2 GB of NVRAM, so I don't understand the need to back up your contacts that frequently. They shouldn't go away if the battery dies (this is WM 5.0+, where RAM and NVRAM are used properly for the first time; not like WM2003SE where the OS and contacts were stored in volatile RAM). But if you must, then use the micro-SD slot as storage. I forget the steps to change applications to use the Storage Card for storing contacts and such, but it was pretty simple. Or you can use ActiveSync to back up your contacts and other things.

(PS. I use NVRAM to mean what others usually call ROM. I hate that misnomer.)

You're not childish :) I upgraded from my BA (XDA IIs/SX66/PDA2k/etc.). Everything released in-between the BA and Flame, with the possible exception of the Magician, was unacceptable to me. As a relativist I reject Universals; as a skeptic, I reject Wizards; etc. :)

The Flame's USB hosting is finicky:

I am able to read flash cards connected to the USB host cable (with or without a card reader), and I am able to talk to the 80 GB hard drive on my iRiver iHP 140, but I cannot talk to an external USB hard drive powered by a USB hub between the Flame and the drive (the hub is supplying power to the drive, but the drive isn't recognized).

The special cable with the female USB jack must be used when hosting. Normal 5-pin USB cables directly connected to the Flame won't work in hosting mode.

I have not tried a printer, keyboard, or mouse yet.

Until Mugen comes out with an external battery for the Flame, I recommend the Targus TG-EXBT external Li-Ion battery pack (4800 mAh, 3/5/6/7.2V).

The video out is good. I connected the video out to my LCD monitor. I ran Clearview Presentation on my PowerPoint slides, and it was good in landscape mode. I did not try the PowerPoint viewer which comes preinstalled, because long ago I preferred Clearview (no conversion necessary).

The displayed video was somewhat fuzzy, but that's to be expected when displaying analog signals on an LCD monitor. An analog projector or TV will probably be more forgiving (digital monitors amplify errors in analog signals, while analog monitors don't; I refused to use LCD monitors until I got DVI video cards).

Could missing EDGE possibly be fixed with a new radio ROM? I am not very familiar with radio firmware, but AFAIK EDGE only needs firmware changes, not hardware changes.

The Flame is an iPhone killer. Show it to all your friends when they show off their new iPhones.
[General Topics] leek:
Built-in keyboards are useless for me, for several reasons:

My fingers are too big to handle the keys without constantly making mistakes

The escape sequences for special symbols are too long (everything except alpha is a function key, on some small keyboards)

I cannot hold the device up and use it with a keyboard; I must lay it down on something

A fold-out keyboard makes the device thicker and heavier

The only keyboards which are acceptable, then, are the hidden kinds like on the BA and Wizard. I almost never used my BA's keyboard. When I tried using it, I made more mistakes and it slowed me down more than using the stylus and soft keyboard.

You can hold the Universal in both hands, and type it with your thumbs, but that is too hard for me, and is much less comfortable than a lighter portrait PDA in one hand and a stylus in the other.

A stylus and soft keyboard:

Allows me to hold the device in one hand and type with the other, with independent control of each

Provides pinpoint accuracy for my otherwise blunt fingers

Does not require complex escape key sequences for common symbols (if you use small keys)

Does not require picking up or dropping a stylus when switching between typing and pointing -- the same device can be used all the time

I can type about 20 wpm using a soft keyboard and stylus.

When I must type a lot, I use a BT Stowaway keyboard, which is large enough for my hands, and does not need to be carried with my phone everywhere I go. I usually only carry it on out-of-town trips.
[General Topics] denizenx:
hmmm HTC phone pad doesn't work on this, the things loads (can set Options) but the popup is hijacked by the std keyboard
[General Topics] denizenx:
hmmmmmmm doesn't work with TENGO either... forbidden custom SIP?

regedited the deafult in hkcu/cp/sip and had to hard reset LOL...
[General Topics] denizenx:
hmm tried "sipsenable.exe" and it seems to work after quite a few resets..

but YES it's solved! (till it disappears again)
[General Topics] ecsk2:
What kind of battery time are we talking about?

Yes in theory this should be possible as GPRS and EGPRS should be afaik only sw differences...

iPhone killer, I don't know I put iPhone in it's own category since it really isnt compareble to Windows Mobile phones (for good and bad so to speak) it has certain features that are beyond, but other things that are way behind. I mean even if they opened the iPhone platform up 100% to 3rd party sw it would take a couple of years or so to have a decent "supply" of sw. Take Skype for instance, you still can't get it for Symbian..
[General Topics] ecsk2:
Ok well I am a qwerty lover indeed but I have yet to find an HTC device with a keyboard I like, and I have indeed tried most of them excluding the very latest SP versions. The keyboards I tend to like the best would be the earlier (pre 9300/9500) Nokia Communicator's and the Danger Hiptop/Sidekick ones, despite that device being a so called teenage messageing toy it has its big plus sides, one being fantastic keyboard. I can live with onscreen keyboard if the device has everything else I want, and the flame is SO close, if only egprs was supported!!
[General Topics] leek:
Well, with medium screen brightness, "auto" CPU optimization, no phone, WiFi or BT, and regular usage, I think it could last 5-6 hours of PDA usage on a full charge. In standby it could last maybe 15 hours (I'm guessing). The battery is only about 3 cm x 3 cm x 2 mm. About half the size of my Canon PowerShot's battery.

Well, I know some people who believe the iPhone hype, and believe it is the only phone with even close to its features (e.g. the screen resolution and video playback, even though that's existed for years in other products!!!).

These are people who prefer the less responsibility that Apple products bring -- more of the decisions are already made for you. You don't have the freedom to install 3rd party apps, but you don't have the responsibility of choosing and maintaining them either. You get less customization, but everything "just works". Some people prefer this "security".
[General Topics] ngoctuan:
Unhide Ext_rom ?

hi Flame's owners! Anyone tell me the way to unhide Ext_rom for my Xda Flame? I only want to run manual some apps on Ext_rom...

Thank!
[General Topics] ianpac:
How is the USB hard drive formated? If it is NTFS then the Flame will not read it. If possible reformat to FAT 16 for compatibility.
[General Topics] leek:
It turned out to be two issues: Cabling and NTFS as you suggest. Replacing one of the cables made the drive accessible on a Linux PC, and then reformatting it with FAT16 made it readable to the Flame (with a hub in-between to supply power).
[General Topics] denizenx:
scary.... on and off until I reinstalled phonepad again. weird eh?
[General Topics] denizenx:
well I have both the dopod u1000 and flame with me now.

the flame's battery life is appalling, it's like the old 2002 PPCs.

basically I charge it to 100%, unplug and leave for home:

- out of the lift I lost 2-3% with one SMS

- off till boarding the train

- played bejeweled2 for about 30 minutes without sound

- left with 63%!

incontrast doing the same with the u1000 I lose about 10% all in all.

- the cpu optimiser is not terribly useful. it retards games performance like TextTwist, about 3x loss of framerates.

- wifi drains VERY fast. about 30-40% an hour.

- charging by USB - if something heavy is running like a phone call, the charge goes down, unlike all the other wm5 PPCs I've used.
[General Topics] leek:
Yep, battery life is very low. That is my #1 complaint right now, even more than EDGE.

My guess is that the graphics coprocessor might be draining it faster.

The battery is about the size of a Compact Flash card.

I hope Unifirm/Mugen will come out with a replacement back cover / battery pack for it very soon. Otherwise I must carry a battery pack with me everywhere.
[General Topics] leek:
It took about 2 hours, but I was finally able to install an XDA Exec PPCTechs WriteSHIELD on my Flame with no bubbles. (The Flame's screen size is the same as the Exec's.)

If you do this, be sure to cover the bottom right corner last.

The Flame's bottom right corner dips when depressed, and so it's harder to get the shield pressed right on it.

If you play Virtual Pool Mobile, the right corner's dip makes for a bad slate :(
[General Topics] fudgebottom:
My Battery life so far seems to be ok, I have noticed that the battery can drop very quickly at times but it's almost like it's still calibrating or something like that...

For Example, battery could be showing 96% plug it in and withing a few seconds it's finished charging (100%), unplug it pay around for a bit and it starts dropping again...

I'm going to start playing around a little more to see if I flatten it and fully charge it a few times if this makes it more steady, there does seem to be either some major power draining issues or a unreliable batter reading at the moment... I'll keep an eye on this but other than this all is running 100% with the Flame :-)

this is no real big issue for me as I also have it plugged into the PC when at work so always fully charged... when I get in the car it's also charging in the cradle (with GPS going as well at times).

And when I get home it normally sync's there to and does not get unplugged either so only really use battery when visiting clients and out and about, normally only a few hours at a time.

I believe I would be able to have the Flame on standby (with the Phone turned on) for at least 24 hours easily on mine but I'm thinking more like 48+hours if PDA not used.

My phone does not seem to loose too much power over night (+- 5-8%).

Cheers

Fudge
[General Topics] S1MB4D:
SOMEONE MAKE OS FOR WM6 PLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[General Topics] CWKJ:
Congratulations!!!
[General Topics] CWKJ:
Now the flashing is good, anyone figures out the complicated XIP with drivers?

http://www.xdaflameusers.com/viewtopic.php?id=256
[General Topics] HDJ80:
It is true, it works.

You MUST format the card with FAT 16.

I used pocket mechanic to format the card ( FAT16 and Cluster size 32K) and I managed to make it work.
[General Topics] amirmw833:
where did you find diskimage.nb0 and 1xdtgklo.kez ?

and please write your rom & radio version before and after flashing OS

and can you tell us this process step by step ...

thanks alot
[General Topics] HDJ80:
Ah! Before making "logical format" I have done "low level format," both with "pocket mechanic"
[General Topics] HDJ80:
diskimage.nb0 in extendedROM.

1xdtgklo.kez: I have done a file named "1xdtgklo.txt" and I changed the name to "1xdtgklo.kez"

Before and after flashing OS is:

ROM version WWE_RC1070309

Bootloader version V2.2C601

GSM version P6A2

extROM version WWE_RM_070516

RIL version v08.60

These are the same because I used my own file "diskimage.nb0"

Step by step: http://www.xdaflameusers.com/viewtopic.php?id=344

This is my 1xdtgklo.kez in zip format.
[General Topics] amirmw833:
thank a lot for description
[General Topics] pasha1976:
But here devistoria says "1xdtgklo.kez - a file named "1xdtgklo.kez", serving as a password. It may be an EMPTY file."

And your attached file is not empty, there is one SPACE in it and its size is 1 byte.
[General Topics] HDJ80:
Yes, it's true, but it works.

I tried different ways to format the microSD and different 1xdtgklo.kez, and that is that I have worked.

There are other ways they can work, but this has worked to me.

I am sure that also works if you put a empty 1xdtgklo.kez file.

I think that the 1xdtgklo.kez file may be empty, but that does not mean it should be empty.
[General Topics] danny3358:
You will be surprised when you look at here :::: WM6 version

http://www.iio2.com/thread-2353-1-1.html
[General Topics] CWKJ:
Only pictures at the moment, but no uploads yet.

Hope we can download soon.
[General Topics] kdskamal:
Yep. I too checked with google translator and even got myself register there to see if the WM6 is avaliable. Darn, they are teasing flame users with the screenshots.
[General Topics] CWKJ:
I do not need google translator.

Saw my post there? Translated it? :D

Saw in another thread that they are saying they have long term relation with Expansys and they will become an official website of MWG. Interesting.

Looks like most of the user are from China.

Hope can download soon, from the Chinese or the Russians.
[General Topics] mustbiw:
XDA Flame

where should I go to upgrade xda flame frm wm5 to wm6???

thanx..
[General Topics] pisey001:
Asking for help

Dear Senior Member:

I have bought Flame in Cambodia. I can't connect 3g connection.

Could you please show me how? or they have software to fix this problem.

BEst Regards,

Pisey
[General Topics] S1MB4D:
hey firstly i am in the uk and havent a clue if cambodia even has a 3g network! also you might need to check if you have enabled it in the settings > phone > band selection and set to 3g to make sure not only 3g is available but also the phone is only going to check for 3g, apart from that you are better off asking some more experienced guys including CWKJ HDJ80 thierryb
[General Topics] CWKJ:
Interesting news if you google "Cambodia+3G".

For you problem, few things to check,

1. Did you set it to "2.5G" or "3G" or "Automatic" mode?

2. Is your area covered with 3G network although it may say it is launch in Cambodia?

3. If answers to Q1 is "3G" and your area confirms to have "3G" network, then it is time to send your Flame to service centre.

When Korea first launch 3G, it covers only Seoul.
[General Topics] mrinternet:
The million dollar question. No where at the moment, we are all waiting for Rom Chefs, O2/MWG.

There isn't a WM6 for the Flame that works at moment.
[General Topics] rorszaik:
Wonder how we could get this in the USA. Any suggestions?
[General Topics] zakeen:
Any news on the Flame 2? I dont know weather I should get a N810 Nokia or wait for the Flame 2........
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
Not a single word as yet... that is, I'd bet at least half a year for it to hit the shelves (if at all).
[General Topics] zakeen:
but the site mwg says coming soon. Soon is not longer then a month is it?

http://www.mwg.com/xda-flame-2.aspx
[General Topics] CWKJ:
Get Flame or get WM6.

Get Flame, look at the web like expansys, ebay etc, Flame is only launch in Asia.

WM6 for Flame? Sue O2!!! I suppose you can do that in US.
[General Topics] CWKJ:
They also said WM6 is coming soon when they launch Flame with WM5.

And we have not smell anything burning yet. How long is that, you can go and figure it out.
[General Topics] zakeen:
So what do you guys think? Should I buy the Flame? I have a Tytn with WM6, am I going to miss WM6 if I get a flame with WM5?
[General Topics] greatestkelvin:
it has been a few months

It has been sometime since I last checked this link, man there are still so many people complaining about this lousy O2 Flame. As I used to own one, O2 sent me an email a few days ago informing me that their support in Asia has been sold to another company. Looks like you guys are going to get poor support for a very long time. For those hoping for a WM6 upgrade, I would say forget it as nobody is going to pay for it. A few months back I posted a few messages informing everyone that O2 flame is a lousy pdaphone with so many complaints about battery life, lousy support, no WM6, it gets overheated..... but the moderator warned me not to do so... looks like I am right afterall.... Listen to my advice as I currently own more than 6 Pda devices..