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[General Topics] jags1:
RECENT ANSWER FROM O2:

Dear Jag,

Thank you for contacting O2 Asia Technical Support.

With reference to your previous correspondence with us, we appreciate the feedback that you have provided regarding the Xda Flame. As to the issue regarding Windows Mobile 6 for the said device, O2 has a policy of testing new software and applications thoroughly to ensure that potential faults and issues are mitigated so that the customer experience and enjoyment of the new device is not affected. As a result, we are conducting rigorous tests on Windows Mobile 6 with the unique O2 applications and other software intended for the Xda Flame. Customers can expect to an announcement on the availability of Windows Mobile 6 upgrades for the Xda Flame in the near future.

Thank you.

I am sorry O2 if i sent few nasty emails to you, i needed answer atleast like this one because it wasn't just my voice there was 100s of O2 FLAME owners un-happy and were about to give up on their beloved flame,so thanks for giving us a hope.
[General Topics] igalan:
Yes, O2 Themes contains O2 Menu, several .theme which can be used with a custom control panel applet that will be installed, and several Today plugins (O2 Calendar, O2 Wireless, O2 Files, O2 MRU, O2 Conenct). When I installed it messed up so much my Today screen that I almost hardreset it to get it back to default WM Today. But with some work I have a better Today screen without a thousand Plugins.

Jeyo is a nice program to backup SMS. I use it every time I upgrade to another device, because you can use it to move stored SMS across devices.

Codewallet is a program to store information safely: passwords, serial numbers... I already have eWallet so I've not installed it.

Worldmate is a nice program if you travel. It has a bunch of utilites for travelers like weather, world clocks, currencies, unit conversion, to do lists, etc.

O2 Phone Plus searches for similar phone numbers as you type them in the phone, and presents a list of matching numbers, so you can dial just typing a few numbers.
[General Topics] PERSONA:
I just tested the COD2 demo version in my flame. It supports the better graphics version. The graphics is like the one you posted for Dell Axim.
[General Topics] PERSONA:
No. COD2 demo runs smoothly. But you need to first remove the libgles_cm.dll in the COD2 demo program directory. I think the one installed may not be compatible with flame. Flame has its own dll included in windows folder already.

um...I didn't encounter this problem in my unit. Sorry couldn't help on this one.
[General Topics] arvind09:
Ok guys am planning on selling my flame,used it for 2 days and put it back in the box,realised was more of ann HTC guy,and addicted to flashing,any one intrested let me know.
[General Topics] JamesManios:
I mentioned this problem before but no one responded so figuring more time had gone by maybe someone has tried now??

Mortplayer: Does anyone have this working? I've tried both RC6 and RC7 and the app loads and plays fine for about 3-5 seconds, then locks up, and in about 10 seconds quits. The weird thing is that even the setup wizard does this, you are going through the settings and it locks-up and quits, not playing sound or doing anything.

In fact I don't think it quits but the OS is maybe killing it after a while since its not responding to anything, (or does some type of memory violation and is shutdown)...

If you DO have it running for lets say 3 minutes and its working, can you zip up your registry settings and your installed files? If using those for me doesn't work, I might hard reset to figure out if its a constant problem or just a software conflict. I'm using PocketMusic right now which works fine, but doesn't have the ability to shutdown/quit itself when I hit a hardware button.
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
Cool. The other, currently, non-working titles may also contain this DLL.

BTW, how smooth is the animation in CoD2?
[General Topics] PERSONA:
I would say the game runs smoothly.

Unforunately there is no option to display the FPS.
[General Topics] CWKJ:
There is no need for Hard Reset, like you said, you can unselect them or if you are interested, the program in Windows and Registry can be remove clean manually.

For Messages, you should try this, it not only backup SMS, it back up MMS, Emails, etc in the Inbox.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=299705

O2 Menu is not that fantastic, looks lilke SKMenu. I have hacked the HtcHomePlugin to the today screen with the screen rotation in it, see the attached Pic.

By the way, you are using 2 phones?
[General Topics] CWKJ:
I agree with you, kind of miss the flashing after changing to Flame from my demaged Universal.

The next obvious choice would be Omni, but it is yet to be released, so Flame is the next obvious choice.

Maybe should buy the cheaper Touch just to play for fun.

I still like the PDA Phone with Big Screen, kind of not used to small screen anymore when I was toying around with my other half's Trinity.
[General Topics] CWKJ:
Know any other sites that has start cooking ROMs for this model.

Not much is known about this Arima ROM.

Do you know the ROM structure of Flame?

Currently, I am living with only transfering a lot of HTC stuff manually from the stripped AKU3.5 and WM6 into Flame.
[General Topics] JamesManios:
What do you guys think about the Toshiba G900. Its kinda like a smaller Universal with the keyboard and higher resolution. There was a problem about it locking up in suspend mode but that seems to be resolved. Apparently battery life is bad but the flame isn't really great either ... I'm getting tempted, the Flame is starting to push all the wrong buttons. I wish nVidia got on the bandwagon and started promoting/building apps for the GPU since no one else seems to care, (baring one or 2 games). Probably everyone is focused on iPhones at this point :-(
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
The G900 isn''t bad; however, it doesn't have 3D accelerator support.
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
Nope. I'll, however, keep my eyes open on non-English (for example Russian) forums and report if I find anything.
[General Topics] fallenczar:
could any of you dump your rom or provide me with a link to the rom (if one exist)

would like to play with the o2 apps on my universal...

and before you say...yes i know what i am talking bout
[General Topics] arvind09:
Your right CWKY though i also own a wizard and universal too,one just cannot compare a VGA screen with a Qvga one,these vga screens have spoilt me rotten lol.
[General Topics] anath:
Once you see the WVGA screen on a Toshiba G900 you will feel the same about VGA. The difference is significant
[General Topics] CWKJ:
Please do not tempt me.

By the way, have anyone try activesync with Flame? It has a lot of problem and is a piece of **** compare to Universal.

Edit: I mean ActiveSync Via Infra-Red.
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
Posted a story to http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1394129 - worth a read!
[General Topics] JamesManios:
I think I had it today with the Flame.... :-(

I ordered a G900 and it shipped, so I will tell you guys how that goes, (if you want to hear about it)...

Will make some comparisons and ebay the loser, but I would be surprised if the Flame stays, now that the suspend problem is 'supposed to be' fixed, the G900 is looking pretty good.

Menneisyys: Your post seems like a very good highlight for new comers to see and make an informed decision on which to get, its really too bad xda-dev will not make a forum for it so more people can easily see it.
[General Topics] igalan:
Menneisyys, if you set SRS on Bass Reducer, call quality greatly improves, in fact now it's the best of all PocketPC Phone Edition I've had. And bass isn't reduced that much it's actually a more balanced setting. I recomend this setting for all owners of the Flame; with the default setting the voice is slightly distored so in difficult conditions it's harder to understand.
[General Topics] thierryb:
I will try concerning the bass reducer.

Concerning the g900, it will be interestingfo compare the usability of the screen

3.5" vga vs 3,0" wvga

Tell us as soon as you have them.

But 2gb infernal flash memory is a real luxury !
[General Topics] jags1:
i did good search,there is nothing present or coming in near future could compete flame,so i am going to keep as o2 has given me hope that wm6 is about to come out,i am sure flame will be a different device running at wm6 platform,toshiba is noway near flame but still interesting to see some review.
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
There is some cool feedback at http://www.aximsite.com/boards/game...rth-some-real-goforce-compliance-reports.html and http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?p=1558305
[General Topics] CWKJ:
About the bad power consumption of Flame, here is what I have experience from HTC Universal, not sure if situation is the same.

When HTC Universal was release with WM5 AKU1, the power management was also a piece of ****, it last 1 to 1 day plus with normal and low usage. With the cooked Roms like WM5 Aku3.5, power consumption improves. And also with newer GSM upgrades found here, the power consumption improves further.

Before my Universal is dead, for heavy usage, it could last up to 2 days. Normal and low usage, it is between 3 to 4 days. No hardware changes.

Not sure what is the consumption of 2 CPU of Flame, but I believe if Arima would put in some effort like the Universal Cooked Roms here and also the varies Universal newer GSM ROM, there might be light at the end of the tunnel.
[General Topics] saman2184:
wm6 for o2flame

HI ALL;

i want wm6 for o2 flame or up to new rom/

pls help me

thanks for all:)
[General Topics] jags1:
you like a kid asking for loly-pop :D

ask O2 for these thing dude :)
[General Topics] thierryb:
why do you need new rom or a wm6 rom? what ave your problems?
[General Topics] djuri:
got my flame yesterday..love it but strip poker II video edition doesn't work :D
[General Topics] saman2184:
bproblem with bluetooth and camera

this rom not fast for programs and camera , bluetooth not work or bad working

but this ppc (o2 flame ) need to upgrade
[General Topics] thierryb:
Can you be more precise concerning not fast for programs. Because for me this pda is fast.

Can you be more precise concerning camera ? what is the problem ?

Concerning bluetooth we have a lot of issues:

- bluetooth does not stay on when the phone is in stand by mode

- we can not use voice command or a similar software with a bluetooth headset

- I can not make a phone call with a bluetooth headset when recording is on with Resco Audio Recorder

But what is/are yours?

I ask you these questions because I want we have precise issues and make a petition to O2 and Arima.
[General Topics] saman2184:
ok .bluetooth not work with heahset and more.

:(
[General Topics] djuri:
Probably I am kind of a lame but could anyone help me with two problems?

1. How to make contacts displayed like "name surname", not like "surname, name" as default? On smartphone I could change it when editing contact in "display as" but on flame I'm unable to find it..

2. How to send files via bluetooth? In file manager, when I choose beam file there's only opinion via infrared even if I turn bluetooth on..

Thanks
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
There won't be - beaming also uses BT.
[General Topics] jags1:
1:

when you open your contacts page just hit a contact (the one you want to edit) you will see person's name on top then phone number with "call" option and in bottom line "send txt msg" and if you look at right at the bottom of this page you will see "call" on your left soft key and "menu" on your right soft key,

hit menu and you will see "edit" :) is that what you asking?

2:

beam searches for infrared first then it goes for bluetooth ,so if you are trying to use bluetooth then wait for few seconds it will connect/transfer.
[General Topics] djuri:
1. no that isn't :) I know how to edit contact but contacts are displayed "surname, name" like "Smith, John" but I'd like to have it displayed as "Name Surname" like " John Smith" is that possible?

2. Thanks, I'll try
[General Topics] jags1:
just write name other way around :D instead writing john smith write smith john so it becomes john smith, right? :D
[General Topics] djuri:
nope :D then it will become john, smith :p
[General Topics] Nite123:
you can try to edit the display on your contact list using outlook on your pc when you activesys your ppc...
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
Also see http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=269316
[General Topics] thierryb:
Scrren shots of Games

Please see below screen shots that I was able to take with the help of Menneisyys and Soti Pocket Controler.
[General Topics] S1MB4D:
rom download?

hey does anyone know where i can get the original rom for the device if not how can i extract it from the device itself?

thanks!
[General Topics] Fighter 77:
Mobile 6

Mobile 6 now comes Pre Installed in HK

http://www.gsmarena.com/o2_xda_flame-reviews-1981.php
[General Topics] ecsk2:
If you are an owner of the XDA Flame can you let me know if it DOES or does NOT have EGPRS support? PLEASE!
[General Topics] hellogts:
Well, the thing is... I don't know. I get conflicted info. on this. Some say it has, some say it hasn't. In the settings, phone, band selection, it allows you to choose 3G, 2.5G, or automatic. 2.5G is EDGE right? I might someday install GPRS monitor to see if the speed is EDGE.
[General Topics] X_Farhad:
nope, 2.75G is EDGE! i can't believe this
[General Topics] ecsk2:
Well if you have the device you should have the manual? I'm sure it mentions it in the technical part of the manual?

Please let me know as if it DOES have edge I'd get one for sure..
[General Topics] Ultimate Chicken:
Guys, he won't be able to tell. The E signal (for Edge) is pretty rare around the places this phone has been released. In Singapore, for example, only Starhub supports EDGE, and coverage is spotty because SH was never that serious about it.
[General Topics] ecsk2:
Well first of all these phones are being offered to customers worldwide by independent sellers already, so technically this owner could be anywhere. Secondly yes it is relatively hard to determine from the device alone if it has egprs support or not, my question obviously is towards the documentation included with the device.
[General Topics] thierryb:
On the doc, they just speak about wcdma and gprs but no edge or egprs
[General Topics] ecsk2:
Any numbers or speed indication in conjunction with the GPRS? Since Egprs is only a soft update from GPRS.
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
It won't - see my A2DP tests. You will either need to get compatible headphones (for example, Nokias) or hack the Widcomm stack on the device.
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
2.5G = GPRS

2.75G = EDGE

Guys, is it *really* 3.5G (=HSDPA)??? The previous stats only talked about 3G (UMTS).
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
Did anyone try running OpenGL ES games / emulators??? PLEASE PLEASE give them a try and report back!!!

See their list at http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=98674 (and also see http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/in...et_jongg_3d_v5_a_video_h&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 and http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/in...ell_axim_x50v_x51v_users&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 if interested).
[General Topics] ecsk2:
Who is/was indicating 3.5G?
[General Topics] Tabbe:
the pocketgba emulator only support video driver 2700G for axim

i try, if the option is on, no game will run on the flame

pocketgba needs to have support of 5500nvidia driver
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
OIC. Could you please test other games? They are mostly OpenGL ES, not specifically 2700G. I'd really like to know whether already-existing 3D-enabled games run on the Flame.
[General Topics] Tabbe:
can u provide me any game that you wish to run?

as i only try finalburn emulator on it. running good on it when i play street fighter. while 3d games that i test is only MicroQuad.CAB, isnt fantastic, maybe due to the game
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
Neither FinalBurn nor MicroQuad are OpenGL ES-capable. See the list of OpenGL ES-capable games at http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=98674 . For example, I'd really like to know how the OpenGL ES-enabled Call of Duty 2 runs on the Flame.
[General Topics] Tabbe:
I have tested out the games listed. none of them works on xda flame. the game wont run at all if you have the Intel 2700 version.

while games without intel2700 works well
[General Topics] richardlai:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/O2-XDA-Flame-...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

£699.00 LMAO
[General Topics] ecsk2:
Again we have "EDGE (Enhanced Data for Global Evolution)." stated in the listing...!?
[General Topics] shaileshashar:
Is the upgrade to WM6 confirmed for this phone ?

CNet Asia has released some press info from O2 but I am not sure.

Anybody heard this from O2 ?

Very imp consideration before buying this phone.
[General Topics] -Johno-:
I just sent an email to O2 Australia about WM6 for the flame, the response was very disappoiting.

"O2 Asia currently has no plans of providing Windows Mobile 6 for current models including Xda Flame except for Xda Atom Life and Xda Zinc at this point of time (no further news as of this moment). "
[General Topics] swain69:
Don't worry, I've received the same kind of email. After I replied to that (and cc: the CEO of O2), they sang a different tune.
[General Topics] igalan:
I've found that 802.11g mode is disabled by default. Enabling it allows the Flame to connect up to 54 Mbps (I've verified that it actually connects at that speed) and now I get incredibly fast network access. It was already the best PocketPC that I've had in WiFi speed an range, now it's even better, the websites just seem to pop on Opera :) . But be careful, it uses more power and the battery may get warmer after longer sessions. I used SK Tools to enable it.
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
I will soon publish an all-in-one tutorial on all ROM issues (extracting / cooking etc)
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
Great, will link it in from the next iteration of the article!!
[General Topics] igalan:
I use Resco Explorer, it has an option to send using Bluetooth. The device receiving the file has to be in discoverable mode (and probably paired).
[General Topics] igalan:
How reliable is this website? If devices are now being shipped with WM 6, it shouldn't take long until it's available for everybody else :) .
[General Topics] thierryb:
Check that. An incredible price :

http://www.mobilebestbuy.net/store_index.jsp?location=products&product_id=1622

Do not know if they are reliable.
[General Topics] djuri:
worldwide dhl airborne shipping for only $12? sounds strange..
[General Topics] seal:
All there phones are really cheap, has anyone bought off them?????
[General Topics] alex_mbob:
Yeah it's seem like very space ...

Nobody had information on this webstore (links, comments....)

??
[General Topics] pierro78:
A guy should have looked into it yesterday but no answer yet :

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070728225128AAMjUFt
[General Topics] jags1:
buying from indonesia over the net in this price $450 o2 flame?

i am not sure, just looked through few of their prices, they are selling eten m600+ (old buggy phone) for $405 and then they selling eten glofiish x500 (really good phone with gps and wm6 upgrade) for $409 :)

personal opinion :BECAREFUL
[General Topics] thierryb:
I have changed the value in sktods concerning wifi b or g. But without any effect.
[General Topics] igalan:
Did you softreset after applying the change? Here it's working, I get up to 54Mbps and lightning fast downloads.
[General Topics] JamesManios:
What are you doing to try to get from b to G?

I know of this one...

HKLM/Comm/TNETWLN1/Parms/

dot11SupportedRateMask=1

dot11SupportedRateMaskG=8

but that doesn't exist in the Flame, what are you trying?
[General Topics] JamesManios:
G900 vs Flame

So I have had/used the G900 since Friday, and all I can say with certainty is that I have not found phone nirvana yet.

Pros:

Size: Size is something that really bugs me about the flame. This is my 8th pda-phone (6035,Thera,XDA2,XDA2s,Jam,Jamin,Flame,G900) and having come from the Jam and Jamin I have come to learn the value of a smaller phone, so if you are accustom to the Jam,Wizard,Hermes size then the G900 is great. http://www.flickr.com/photos/8476722@N04/969439618/

Keyboard: Of those previous phones none had a keyboard so I'm really comfortable without one, but having had a keyboard for only a couple of days I can honestly say that I would only do an email/sms now with it.

Bluetooth: As you would image bluetooth stays on when in suspend and the carkit is working great.

Battery: The battery is not GREAT, but its better then the Flame. From 2pm Saturday to 12pm Sun no charging doing 6 sms's, 1 call, (about 2 minutes) about 1/2 hour of video watching with bluetooth on the whole time it was at 60% battery. I don't think the flame would have even made it.

Cons:

Speed: Though the same processor family and both overclocking to a limit of 585, the G900 is MUCH slower then the Flame. Its actually VERY surprising, some times just clicking on the start menu will take 1-2 seconds, sometimes its lighting fast. I haven't figured out how to turn off its auto-balance on CPU but using PHM or XScale does the trick and things like the menu would still be slow. The GUI experience is poor in comparison to the Flame, and I don't find the Flame terribly fast.

Video: Related to speed probably, playing a 640x480 movie that the Flame plays at 150% the G900 can only play at 89% so you get dropped frames and a poor experience. The G900 does run at 150% when playing on on GAPI but has a problem. It looks like its only drawing the first 640x480 part of the screen and the rest is left black or the previous image, this might be a bug with TCPMP more then the G900 (maybe hardcoded for the 320x240 ratio), but since you can't use that mode you only have DD,Raw, or GDI and they are slower. http://www.flickr.com/photos/8476722@N04/969516976/

Screen: And now we come to the meat of the problem. Though the G900 is 800x480 it packs that higher pixel count into a smaller screen. While a very nice screen, you seem to lose all that extra detail because the pixels are so close together you don't really see some of the detail unless you make it bigger (and therefore lose the advantage of the higher pixel count). Looking at an image on the Flame always looks much better then the same image on the G900. This picture will not do it justice but look at the calculator, that is the same bitmap on both but you can see that its clearer in the Flame, or the dashboard icon, etc...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8476722@N04/969383384/

So ... ultimately I'm still not sure which I'm keeping. Now with a WM6 Rom possibly on the horizon for the flame, I definitely think I will wait and see if most of the Flame problems are solved, (though they can never fix the size :-P ) and re-look at them again.

If you have specific questions, fire away...
[General Topics] JamesManios:
Did you get that battery yet, and if 'yes', have you noticed any difference?
[General Topics] swain69:
Thanks for that review JamesManios ! I'm kinda glad now that I settled for the Flame.
[General Topics] thierryb:
Thanks too, JamesManios.

In fact people that are used to pda with phone would prefer the flame, and those are use to a phone that could be a pda coud hesitate between the flank and other devices like the G900

The most important info you give use concern the screen. And I am glad you prefer the flame's.

Can you compare the web browsing on both devices. How the G900 benefits to be wvga?

Thanks again.
[General Topics] thierryb:
What ever the value I put with sktools, I have no speed change. Even after softreset. I have made download test, and in WirelessManager > Wifi settings I have always 54 mbps.

what have more impact is changing in Wifi Settings > Advanced from best battery life to best performance.

Strange that we have different behavior.