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[One (M9) General] nebulaoperator:
At the first I thought I am going to compromise only camera but camera is way worse than expected. And now we have added cpu throttling, unacceptable screen ( what a delight m7 is to use) , weak battery. And I am not disappointed with HTC I am pissed big time. They take for granted small but very enthusiastic and educated, refined, passionate fan base. That's clearly not the way for one of the best flagship manufacturers to go. There should be consistency , consistency in improvement, consistency in quality deliverance tonbe reliable OEM. At the moment I can't call HTC reliable flagship manufacturer and I am very crossed for them ruining M9.
[One (M9) General] MikeDeveloper:
Spanish reviews, análisis en español? ..

:)
[One (M9) General] Snah001:
Here is the link to the Dutch Tweakers.net review of the M9 with the updated Software from HTC.

Not good at all:

https://translate.google.com/transl...zijn-de-verbeteringen.html&edit-text=&act=url
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
This is exactly what I was thinking, he should have changed more in the design, boosted the screen sharpness and brightness and tested the camera for months
[One (M9) General] Corduroy-21:
Do we know which of these reviews mention the software update?

I'd like to see a more final review.

For example in Anand they split the review in two parts and they are re-testing the phone after Friday's update.

HTC have really messed up. They presented a half-ready phone in Barcelona and they rushed an update almost after the reviews were over.

The most worrying thing for me is the battery life.
[One (M9) General] CandyAndy:
Has HTC ever made a good camera on a phone? Just wondering why they keep failing with it always. This is the biggest fail from HTC since HTC one X or thunderbolt. I am just worried if HTC has enough cash to deal with this big mistake. It's even worse than Samsung Galaxy S 5 last year but Samsung is so big that one mistake doesn't throw them out of the game. And this year Samsung really raised the bar.
[One (M9) General] *Emix*:
This is a disaster for HTC, never expected M9 to have all those problems.

G3 like battery life? Worst than M8.

Cheaper display panel.

Mediocre camera.

Throttling.... wow.
[One (M9) General] Super Chimp:
Another review here.

http://m.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/revi...w-htc-has-done-it-again-.html#~p7KJPlo5Wbo6Yj
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
I really don't get why you guys are saying s6 battery life is better cuz both of them suck so Samsung's optimization isnt working either
[One (M9) General] th3:
All those review links I've already posted like 20 poss back...

Except the digitalspy review.

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S6 battery sucks too, but even that beats the M9 easily... with 2k screen and smashing it in every other department.

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[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
That's the thing. I agreed with their decision to go with 1080p because I think it's just an extension of the oem spec's war. Go with 1080p and give great battery life.

What a disaster. I may still get it. Just can't see using a touchwiz phone.
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Anyone found a review or camera comparison putting the M9 camera against Note 4 and S6 samples?

And not resized to 1mp but full scale 100% to see the difference in the most possible details
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
Im blaming everything on qualcomm
[One (M9) General] SPreston2001:
You can blame Qualcomm for some of the problems but ultimately HTC chose to use the 810. If the chip was that bad HTC could've opted to use the older 805. But the camera, screen, and recycled design is purely on HTC. I'm seriously disappointed in HTC right now...
[One (M9) General] Rage1ofakind:
And then people would've complained about HTC using an older SOC. There's no winning. But as the 64bit Octacore architecture is new, hopefully the phone will become better in time. With updates / patches. And I'm sure HTC are working on a big update alongside android 5.1
[One (M9) General] SPreston2001:
Yeah but im sure if they would've explained why they used the 805 people wouldve been open to the idea. The Note 4 uses the 805 and it's a beast so I could only imagine what a Sense 7 device would be like. But like I said the processor is only one of the many letdowns... Seems as if the only good thing on the M9 is the extra gig of ram...
[One (M9) General] th3:
Same here, no offense to other fans but I can't stand TouchWiz or iOS. I'm a heavy Sense addict.

Now, almost all major reviews are asking them to consider AMOLED.

I warned about the heat/battery life a fortnight back... basic semiconductor physics; the first TSMC node shift is always immature, untweaked and leaks more current requiring higher voltages (SHP process), and they shoved 8 cores into it. That was screaming "problem" to me as yields were low too, so the chips would be costly. As you can't have more than 4 of those cores + graphics run in HFM due to the restrained passive cooling. It would mean, the 2GHz cores don't run expect in medium-light workloads.

That's what was now shown in the reviews.

In hindsight, I don't think 8 cores was the way to go, on an immature, low-yield process. I also don't mind 1080p, but the display and battery life should have been improved. And the MSRP of the M9, is way too high, for what its worth.
[One (M9) General] shook187:
I'm afraid this is RIP for HTC base on the reviews I've been reading. It's a shame I was really rooting for HTC.

I'm sure if they release a M9+ which will slightly correct some of the issues of the M9, it'll be a little too late as both devices will be fully ignored.

RIP HTC....I'll make sure to pick up a M9 at bargain bin for memories.
[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
It isn't better. The problem is that htc went with 1080p to save battery life. It looks like that isn't the case.
[One (M9) General] D15:
Over an hour more of web browsing, and over two hours more of video playback is better.

People are also forgetting here that the M9 is nearly 3 mm thicker than the S6 (on top of the lower screen resolution). The M9 should be beating the S6 in battery performance pretty easily.
[One (M9) General] tryfound:
I'll be taking some comparisons with my Note 4 and M9 today
[One (M9) General] joelxda:
Can you hurry up please...the internet is waiting :D
[One (M9) General] kolembo:
Oh my. You know, it's just a trick of fate I ended up with the note...I had gone out to buy the M8 and couldn't find it.

I blasted Samsung all up and down the S5 debacle - using HTC as case in point.

I gotta tell ya, the S6 edge has knocked it well out of the ball park. Still, I was hoping that a two-day battery and a gorgeous screen would stand up for HTC.

Whoops. I don't understand how the screen can be cheaper than the M8, and the battery just 'ok'. I blame sycophants surrounding Chou. You can't stand still for three years, you just can't.

I don't see a way out of this - come next year, ALL phones will be gorgeous. I'm quite posed off actually. I had the HTC Flyer. I wanted HTC to win.

So. What do they do? Anyone want to chance at strategising a way forward from here? I'd be interested to know.
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Oh boy!

I hope you can take both daylight and low light photos, and please post them in full, no resizing ;)

[MENTION=4931246]kolembo[/MENTION] didn't you know Chou was casted out from HTC right after the M9 was unveiled?
[One (M9) General] tryfound:
Sure thing, should have the phone when it gets delivered to work in a few hours then I'll go for a little wander around the city. Hopefully it doesn't rain!

Best place to upload full resolution shots?
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
http://cubeupload.com/login

It's the only website that won't compress your photos and it's 100% free
[One (M9) General] tryfound:
Thanks, will post my comparison pics in the photo thread later when I can.
[One (M9) General] TwistyValhalla:
I know the reviews coming in are pretty negative in tone but I'm still hopeful that HTC will be able to address many (if not most) of the issues through software/driver updates.

What I'm concerned about is that HTC seems to be struggling with finalizing their software for release. Maybe this has something to do with their R&D budget. This is also reflected in their decision not to bring any major design upgrade to the M9. It's hard to keep up with competitors in a crowded market if they are having to work with a tight R&D budget.
[One (M9) General] maxpayn02:
You had one job HTC , only the camera
[One (M9) General] Corduroy-21:
Although a site I don't like a lot, I must say that BGR's review is the one I find to described the situation in the best way:

Bolded parts are mine.

The biggest problems for me are that Samsung improved the atrocious S5 this year with a good phone and that HTC had an already very good M8 and did not do anything vastly better. They did improve the camera but still it is not the best, although HTC never had the best camera. So the gap between HTC and other manufacturers is not big (if there still is one). However, they still have a good phone and people that admire things like build quality and beauty (always in the eye of the beholder), Sense, good software support etc will still find the M9 a good phone.
[One (M9) General] th3:
I can't believe the spin some fanatics are still putting on a poor and problem phone. Even after the big reviewers have slammed it.

They just can't see how piss poor the phone is in so many ways, in comparison to your typical Flagship phone launch.

How badly it's a regression in too many ways, and overpriced.

Oh yea, first they spend a year praising the M8 and now they're criticizing it to make the M9 look good.

Apologists are just sad and pathetic.

It has some good points, but no where near what the fanboys are trying to push, to hide it's negatives.

Camera - dud

Video - dud

Size - same

Finish : good

Design - same

Display - dud

Sound - dud

Performance - dud

Battery - dud

Software - good

Graphics - good

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[One (M9) General] badboy47:
Wow I didn't expect the reviews to be this bad. Looks like HTC have done some damage to themselves.
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
you know what i just realized all these reviews are on software that are not final. so there is still hope.

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based on this article most of these reviews are based on non final software. It looks like HTC released the final software like the day of most of these reviews. So battery life will be better on this new software. Im waiting for part 2 of this article and any other reviews coming after this newest update that came out today to give a final thought of battery life.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9102/the-htc-one-m9-review-part-1/2
[One (M9) General] Enphenate:
Can we stop with this whole "there is still hope its not final software" wishful thinking?

I don't understand how anyone is still betting on some magical software to fix all of the phones issues. The reality is, nothing is going to change substantially between today's software, and even a "final" patch that might be released a month from now. The phone is pretty much as good as its going to get, there might be a few MINOR improvements here and there but that's all. This is the same thing I hear over and over again in beta tests for games or demos, "its not final, there's still hope" and yet time and time again everyone is left disappointed.

I had very high hopes for the M9 and I just cant understand how HTC did not learn their lesson after the major backlash from the M8. They had a full year to tweak and enhance on the downfalls of the M8 and instead they fell short again in the same areas. I currently have a Galaxy S3 as my daily driver and a M8 as a work phone and love everything about it, superb battery life, fast, awesome screen, sturdy, but the camera has always been a deal breaker for me, enough for me to hold on to my S3 as a daily phone.

I was really rooting for HTC to come out with something amazing so I could finally use my upgrade and replace my ancient Galaxy S3, but unfortunately it looks like I may skip the M9 and hop on the S6 train, or wait even longer for the next wave of flagships.
[One (M9) General] Adam182:
Something's amiss with your consistent talking down of the M9 and the fact that you still have pre-ordered it.

It will be extremely interesting to hear your thoughts when you actually have the phone in hand - Adam
[One (M9) General] nebulaoperator:
I totally agree regarding "its not final software" delusion. Nope there will be no magic software that will make M9 somehow a complete different phone. STOP. Do your self a favour and come to terms that some features like camera and screen SUCK. I have even heard people saying regarding yellow screen " oh it kind of matches material design " . Or yea but camera is better it has more pixel and yet images are consistently washed out, smudged and focus troubled. Just stop for a sec and look at S6 prerelease images . They are already in the diferent league. I am HTC fan but I came to terms M9 is not for me I can't justify HTC trying to sell flagship "crap" and I had to temporarily get my self iphone 6 . I fukin hate it but thats another story of hate and love. I sincerely believe company is troubled at this point for many reasons or they are simply delusional.
[One (M9) General] tmac31:
the new update underclocked cpu to 1.6 ghz. and battery tests of anandtech are with new update its still bad even its underclocked
[One (M9) General] jauhien:
Relevant screens..

M9 does not consume battery fast - but the interface is very fast!
[One (M9) General] Corduroy-21:
I can't believe the time spent by some fanatics bashing the phone. If the phone really sucks then they should get over it and find another alternative.

The reviews were not praising the phone, but none of them said the phone is poor or bad. Yes they said it's not the best and yes there are some negatives and yes we all hoped for something better judging from the M8. They were critical to HTC as they should have been. Everyone of us expected a bit more from the phone. I don't know about heating and how much could be prevented by HTC (because of the 810), but other stuff like the camera and the battery life should have been better.

However, despite the phone's shortcomings it is still a good phone and that is the opinion of most of the reviewers:

Gizmodo:

Engadget

BGR

Techspot

GSMArena

Stuff.TV

Trusted Reviews
[One (M9) General] tmac31:
Ofc its one of the best android phones. Even s5 is one of the best android phones but both are disappointing. I dont see any improvements over m8. Better gpu more ram doesnt worth it. Like 1 of your quotes its a worthy upgrade over m7 not m8.
[One (M9) General] jauhien:
You're mistaken, Mate.. :)

After spending a week with M9 as former proud M8 owner I can't look at it anymore now IT'S TOO CHEAP in every user experience aspect.. :(

M9 HIMA RULES !

P.S. Apart from an extreme poverty case nothing should stop you from living 2015 with the best (hand crafted) and blazing fast mobile handheld!
[One (M9) General] Cryosx:
Those are still the old battery results. They said they'd have the new results in part 2.

"The forthcoming part 2 will in turn look at the rest of our performance numbers – including a complete workup on new battery life numbers – along with the camera and our final thoughts on the phone."
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
With all due respects, I can't stand another year with a poor camera and same 2013 screen, the phone design itself is still the most beautiful one in the market but it's becoming boring
[One (M9) General] jonnycat26:
+1

There's no way a software update is going to magically add PSR. The fact that HTC left this out on their flagship phone is absolutely unexcusable. To me this is a blatant signal that they're either trying to maximize profits by skimping on internals or or their 300 minute per phone machining process has become too damn expensive and they needed to skimp on internals.

Either way, skimping on internals isn't good!

I'm not going to go into the lack of OIS on the camera (which was a regression on the M8 from the M7, but understandable given the Duo setup) because that is what it is... but regressing on the panel, which is arguably *the* most important part of a smartphone is a slap in the face.

Like you, I was really rooting for this phone. I've had both the M7 and M8, and before that the Espresso and then a Doubleshot. I've been using Sense for so long (except for a brief fling with a Gnex) that it feels like it *is* Android to me. As of now though, I'm really considering jumping over to the Moto X pure edition, and hoping I can fill in the gaps that will be missing w/o sense (mostly the Exchange tasks integration).
[One (M9) General] tmac31:
Hmm thanks i missed that part thought they just couldnt manage to do all tests and give rest later.

But anyway underclocking a cpu isnt a fix. Battery scores better or not its still achieved with a underclocked cpu which is advertised as 2.0 ghz but never pass 1.6 ghz instead of cheating on benchmarks.
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
U don't think you guys read the anandtech report I posted earlier they clearly said there gfx benchmark after the update came from 1 hr to 3 hours after the benchmark and there review was not done on final software read people. So yes a software can change battery a whole 2 HOURS based on their findings

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Read Carefully from anandtech:

We'd normally go into depth about the PCMark, GFXBench, and Basemark OS II battery life results at this point but the new software update precludes this from happening at all as all three could be significantly impacted by changes to thermal throttling. In GFXBench, I saw a change from 1.73 hours to around 3 hours of battery life on our infinite T-Rex rundown test, and in PCMark I noticed that the M9 reached about 40C, which brings it close enough to the new update's maximum skin temperatures that all three tests must be re-done.

Case in point, our GFXBench 3.0 battery life results were significantly altered by the update. With the initial version of the phone’s software we hit 1.73 hours – the phone ran fast but almost unbearably hot – and after the software update the One M9 is over 3 hours on the same test with a maximum temperature of 45C, a still-warm but certainly much cooler temperature, as seen in the photo above. And none of this takes into account the camera changes, which so far we are finding to be similarly significant. It has made the One M9 a very different phone from when we started.
[One (M9) General] hung2900:
Not only that. HTC underclocks the phone from 2 GHz to 1.6 GHz except for benchmark tests (like M8), then further implements so-called "thermal throttling" which decreases the level of CPU quite heavily, then the battery is still not as expected. Of course, S6 is not much better, but remember the quite smaller bettery.

I'm a very heavy user, so maybe I'm looking for another phone. I skipped Note 4 for the same reason.
[One (M9) General] zaaye:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/300tlb/htc_one_m9_review_thread/
[One (M9) General] tmac31:
That qoute from anandtech basically a bad thing. Thermal throttling is kicking too often so benchmarks run worse(games browsing etc can be affected too) and phones runs on low frequencies. Firmware update didnt fix problems of s810 it just fixes what you feel. They crippled performance of soc, underclocked and thermal throttling kicks too early, so battery can be better and and heat too. But performance is sort of m8.

So its not a fix they are just trying to fool people.
[Android Apps and Games] bejunk:
/// WHAT'S NEW:

/// WHAT'S IN:

/// INSTALL:

/// HELP & TIPPS:

have fun, peace :)
[Android Apps and Games] baggord:
I just flahsed now and working awesome on Nexus 5, android 5.1.

Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] SingularityHRT3:
Flashed it... Really smooth and fluid... Can I restore the old version's custom words into this new version???
[Android Apps and Games] aziiz3:
Flashed on cm11 4.4.4 and working as good as it should be i guessed

Thanks OP
[Android Apps and Games] abhatia1435:
Please share other apps too. :) [MENTION=5257316]bejunk[/MENTION]
[Android Apps and Games] Jay Rock:
Thanks for confirming.
[Android Apps and Games] venom007:
can you port it for4.2.2
[Android Apps and Games] Valforte:
Installed in stock Z1 rooted with Locked Bootloader. Keeps force closing. Does not work.
[Android Apps and Games] BEingNiCK:
does not work with AOSP 5.1 Samsung Grand Duos :confused: will test on CM12 tonight

Edit :- works fine on CM12 attaching some ss,

btw i wasn't able to get log for AOSP 5.1 as i tried installing by flashing zip didn't worked so checked if your mentioned folder exists in system/app with all files as per flashable zip or not & permissions as well everything was fine then went ahead & did factory reset & tried same again but didn't worked so went ahead & checked all apk's installed to check if keyboard apk is installed or not & as i guessed it wasn't so last option to install manually & make it system app with proper permissions but while installing manually normal mode & forcefully via adb didn't worked parse error & i guess until a app is not installed there is no way to get logcat

& thanks for awesome keyboard mate please can you add numbers row cheers :good:
[Android Apps and Games] bejunk:
thank you for confirm :)

try to clear keyboard data in settings. also whats your android version?

read below :)

sorry, :( may u can post me a log?

EXTRA: (requested the other stuff)

- *NEW* Movies App 8.1.A.030 (install as normal apk)

http://www77.zippyshare.com/v/Y69lTVWS/file.html

- Sounds (not much changed doh')

http://www37.zippyshare.com/v/2uD2tUpF/file.html

Notes:

- Calender works suprisingly fully but has much dark text on dark & white txt on white bugs (framework i guess), so its NOT usable :crying:

- Album is older Version than posted by Ben Ling

- NO NEW WALLPAPERS! (i didnt find new ones just the old. lol)

- FOR ALL OTHER STUFF, wait for full ports, but give them some time ;)

peace, bejunk
[Android Apps and Games] antrea:
Doesn't works on Nexus 5, lollipop 5.1 stock + root.

Can't see the app
[Android Apps and Games] bejunk:
in language & input settings press on "actual keyboard" , on the popup again press. "choose keyboard" then u can activate it.

also make sure the app is in your system. good luck
[Android Apps and Games] antrea:
thanks for your support, i have found the problem: the root/recovery app doesn't works good on my phone, the file is partial and i cant copy/move in "manual mode" your apk because I can't write/overwrite files without corrupt it...
[Android Apps and Games] Valforte:
Cleaned data and didn't work. I flashed using TWRP, also tryed manual setup. Android version is 4.4.4.
[Android Apps and Games] Diabolo_Elvin YF:
Does it support Chinese input? Can the 5th number row on the top be activated? Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] vladimir_carlan:
Almost perfect on Nexus 5 Android 5.1 Cataclysm. Only problem I had was the Fc when I was trying to download additional languages. As workaround I was installing an older port of Z3 keyboard, download the desired languages and the flash again this keyboard. Tho the problem might be with SELinux permissive but is too late for me to test. For now I'm happy fhat I managed to make it to work. Was expecting for long time for a material Xperia keyboard (best OEM keyboard in my opinion). Tomorrow I'll test if the issue is with SELinux or not.
[Android Apps and Games] bejunk:
you can rename the apk to your wishes. (doesent affect anything but i think if same package name inside it will delete one of them after reboot) or you install 2nd keyboard lik google one, then backup current xperia keyboard to SD, delete from system, manual install my keyboard.

theres a "textinput-chn" i guess means chinese. you need it i can do it tomorrow...

thx for testing!
[Android Apps and Games] nirmal471:
Movies getting FC and please port this keyboard for 4.3 jellybean also.. Thanks in advance