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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mrjahvi:
[TOOL/UTILITY][TWRP][ 2.8][RECOVERY] TWRP 2.8.5.x TeamWin Recovery Project 2/13 i have a tmobile note 3 and no version of twp works past TWRP v. 2.6.3.9 . kitkat 4.2 is on there now.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bigbiff:
What issue are you having?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mrjahvi:
when i install the twrps the note 3 stops at boot. cant use recovery for any function. i can only use 2.6.3.9 version to do my tasks. i cant upgrade to a version where i have full access to functions as 2.6.3.9 version.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bigbiff:
You are probably installing the wrong bootloader version. Which file are you flashing with Odin?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mdiaz33685:
I have tried all the twrps and they have all worked for me without any issues... ur running a very old rom, try updating bootloader and modem, then update ur rom...

recommend to wipe system, cache, dalvik cache and if it fails, wipe your data also..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Prashantoberoi:
Note 3 n900 Exynos international version

please help,

i gave root access to my phone few days ago and was running the stock lollipop rom and its stock recovery, so in order to install custom roms, i tried to install the twrp recovery with the help of the twrp application. now after installing the app i opened it and it asked for busy box installation and sd card patch to be don in order to write on the sd card. i installed busy box and did the sd patch and after that followed the instruction for the installation, after downloading it asked me to install it and i installed the recovery but strangely it didnot boot my phone, anyhow after few secs it told me to reboot the phone, my phone turned off and while turning on, it is still stuck on the "downloading, do not turn if the target" screen. i can access the download mode only. it is not going either into recovery or booting up or boot loop.

please help..!

:(
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bigbiff:
Try the following guide: http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/57009/how-to-recover-stock-firmware-on-the-galaxy-note-3
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Prashantoberoi:
Thanks alot..!! Its working now..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Cdmills:
Twrp img.tar file

I'm using t-mobile Galaxy Note 3 5.0 and trying to get twrp thru Odin. When I download twrp img.tar file my computer asks if I want to open with winzip. I click yes then winzip has a message saying that it's an unsupported archive. How do I get twrp so I can get it to Odin then yo my phone. What am I not doing or what am I doing wrong
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] toastido:
Well, try not opening with winzip....
[Nook Touch General] csrrvr:
Hi,

I have a NST rooted and the screen is not working, i've clean it but it is still not working at all.

I wonder if it is a way to bypass the drag to unlock screen and reconfigure the buttons via ADB Shell in order to keep using de NST.

I've tried to modify settings.db but i still have not find a way to bypass the lock screen.

Anybody knows how to do it?

Thanks,

César
[Nook Touch General] NOOK!E:
[MENTION=6509521]csrrvr[/MENTION], try this mod.
[Nook Touch General] David0226:
Once you get past the lock screen issue using ИΘΘK¡€'s link, you may want to install RenateNST's Touch-1.0.apk to help you try to determine if (and where) there is a problem with the touch sensors.
[Nook Touch General] csrrvr:
I've tried the mod but i'm not able to bypass the lock screen. I think that it is beyond my knowledge. I just will buy another ebook reader; soon or later with a broken touchscreen i would have to do it.

Thanks anyway for your advice ,

César
[Nook Touch General] NOOK!E:
Unless you're dying to get a new ereader and spend more money, I'd be more than happy to help you follow the mod's steps. If you want to try it, PM me and I'll give you a hand.
[Sony Xperia M] sakotok:
Hello, i have Xperia M C1905

my problem all of aplication force close,

i cant do anything when xperia m power on,just boomber force close all aplication

i try connect to PC COMPANION to repair, my phone not detected

i try flash using Flashtool and got an error

look for treath nothing fix, and when i uninstal or delete, or change to developer mode when restart its back like read only no change.

IM SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH

PLEASE NEED HELP
[Sony Xperia M] sakotok:
help
[Micromax Canvas A1] techyrohit1:
i recently flashed indonesian lollipop5.1 in my android one...but the problem is when i use my camera and the flash is turned on the camera flashes during the shot but the brightness of the flash is too high that when the image is clicked the image don't seems clear...the flashlight ruin the image through its brightness...what to do now?
[Micromax Canvas A1] jackeagle:
Hi,

Thanks for using XDA Assist :) Please standby when our moderators move your post here Canvas A1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Good Luck!
[Micromax Canvas A1] jaskiratsingh:
This is a known issue with lollipop. Try using cymera when you need images with flash.
[Micromax Canvas A1] techyrohit1:
Cymera? Is it an app?
[Micromax Canvas A1] Jaskirat_Panjrath:
Try using a different camera app! :) . It worked for me!
[Micromax Canvas A1] yagnesh97:
Use another camera app until it resolves..

Btw im using retrica... ;) lol
[Nexus 6 Accessories] thafngame24:
I am considering getting the OnePlus Power Bank, which goes on sale tomorrow, for 14.99. It is a 10,000mah power bank. I have noticed on Ebay/Amazon that their are alot of power banks for sale for a very similar price but the storage is up to 50,000mah. I just wanted to see if anybody out there has purchased any of these 50,000mah power banks on Ebay and if you would recommend any of them? Thanks
[Nexus 6 Accessories] sonofevil77:
This is the one I got. It's crazy good. It is also unavailable right now but I couldn't be happier and if you find one get it.

Sentey Power Bank Brio 20800mah Black Rubber Coating Finish - Dual ... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OHWXZUY/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_XbIdvb1FAVA4Y

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6 Accessories] daewond3r:
I have this Anker power bank: http://www.ianker.com/product/79AN13K2-BCA

It's not 50,000 but my experience with it has been nothing but great. It's charges much faster than my old Mophie did. They have a 25,600 model if you need more juice.
[Nexus 6 Accessories] Xirix12:
I play Ingress a lot and I currently use (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M2ZQXDY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) with my Nexus 6. Works great!
[Nexus 6 Accessories] guitardoc64:
I also play ingress and I have one of these, it works great.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DL...le+charger&dpPl=1&dpID=51SG8-SlcSL&ref=plSrch
[Nexus 6 Accessories] Oniska:
At the workplace where I work, we have invested in Anker battery banks and they are very good in high quality
[Xperia Z3 General] nocomp:
ola,

just upgraded to last ftf, and oh surprise (actually i was sure that it would happend) no raw mode in the camera.

so what s the point to do the so called "best camera phone" and not have raw mode enable with lolypop?

if you have any tips trick for enable that, please share!

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here is the sony z3 camera compatibility running android 5.0
[Xperia Z3 General] progosu:
z3 is my last device from Sony, I'm tired of being constantly disappointed by them.
[Xperia Z3 General] beni8978:
Samsung S5 and HTC One M8 don't support RAW so what do you expect ?
[Xperia Z3 General] admad:
Who gives a **** about RAW, is the manual control available?
[Xperia Z3 General] kernald:
From Sony application as before. Nothing more. It was a given: implementing the Camera2 API is not a small job... And is a commercial argument for the Z4 or Z5.
[Xperia Z3 General] unmaskedfalesh:
Some users report no manual mode and some say yes..can't understand how can Sony remove the manual mode
[Xperia Z3 General] admad:
Sony didn't remove the manual mode, they just didn't apply it. And by manual I mean ofcourse manual ISO, shutter speed etc.
[Xperia Z3 General] unmaskedfalesh:
What do u mean they didn't remove and they didn't apply it?? More specific??
[Xperia Z3 General] admad:
I mean that we had and have a thing called "manual" but available options to choose are very limited. Android 5.0 brings new feature that allows a true manual camera mode, like ability to set shutter speed. But for some reason (I think that kernald is right, commercial reasons to upgrade to Z4 etc. apply) they didn't implement it, and we are left will old "manual" mode.
[Xperia Z3 General] se1000:
I wonder how many people crying for RAW really know what that will give them.

Stock Sony camera app has some of the most extensive manual controls of any phone app.
[Xperia Z3 General] Bäcker:
so is there a flagship phone which offers RAW on Lollipop and can compete with our Z3 feature wise?

otherwise stop winning
[Xperia Z3 General] kernald:
Well I don't think it's just for commercial reasons. Implementing the full Camera2 API from scratch is a lot more work than just backporting the old camera firmware to the new kernel. It's not just a question of flipping a switch or not.
[Xperia Z3 General] Cryssie:
Why RAW? The sensor of a smartphone is too small to make a serious professional camera anyway and it always requires post-processing with professional software that most users do not have
[Xperia Z3 General] se1000:
Yup exactly. I'd say almost everyone crying for RAW has no idea what it means or what it will give them.

As for the guy that wanted manual shutter speed controls, the Z3 is one of the few phones that you can manipulate ISO and exposure compensation. All modern cameraphones have fixed apertures. I hope you can do the rest of the math to answer your own question.
[Xperia Z3 General] danw_oz:
Yep with you on each
[Xperia Z3 General] Gitaroo:
Thats because Sony jpeg compression is garage and most people want RAW to see full potential of the camera.
[Xperia Z3 General] se1000:
You know what's really funny about this argument? People have accused the Sony JPEG engine of underprocessing (under sharpening, less contrast, ligher NR) than other algorithms, which I kind of agree with. You know what that sounds a lot like?
[Xperia Z3 General] Cryssie:
No argument there, the camera can perform a lot better.

But that does not change the fact that no common user wants to import their casual selfies and vacation snapshots into a 1000 dollar piece of software for post processing before posting them to facebook.

I would much rather see Sony improve the camera software instead of enabling RAW.
[Xperia Z3 General] Richie5767:
Wow. I'm getting the update now in the US. From your comments, it doesn't sound too promising. Are there any good sides to the update? I'll have mine in 6 mins but would like to know
[Xperia Z3 General] bartolo5:
Guys, no other major players other than Motorola are including the Camera2 API so it's hardly fair to blame Sony for not adding it. I'm sure it's a lot of work to implement the API properly for a feature that few people in theory will notice.

Hopefully they will in the future.
[Xperia Z3 General] funky0308:
Raw or not...Sony, obviously, is working on camera optimisation and improvement.

I took this picture in a extremely dark room, with only light from a TV and it's better then on 4.4.4 on Z3.

If we are comparing this with Z2 powered by KK it's not possible not to see the difference...

In my opinion, that's what's important.

Don't forget we are using cellular phones... You can call them smart or whatever you want but they are still phones...

It's good and it's getting better and better...

Personaly...I don't need raw, just like I don't need 4K video recording.

I don't need 10MB (and bigger) size photos or 1GB video (30ses) [emoji14]

I'll use professional gear for HD and professional shooting... Smartphone should be what it is - device with many options... And when you have many options you can't have all of them perfect and professional..

You want perfect camera, the other one wants perfect speakers, someone else want perfect gaming experience...

That's just not possible...I think Sony did nice job with Z3 and 5.0.2 (I just don't like some parts of design but OK) and Sony will do even better things with Z4 and Z5 but we'll never get device with ten different and perfect features..
[Xperia Z3 General] stalker_dj:
I think they`ve enough time to implement this API
[Xperia Z3 General] Aoi_sora9x:
I'm just going to call all these "GIFF RAW PLS" people what they are: Specs Nerds.

There, I said it.

People just want it for the sake of "having the latest and newest things from El Goog". But when even Motorola running near stock Android doesn't have camera2 API, we know that El Goog is not doing a good job of actually implementing their ****s.

Shooting RAW on a mobile device? give me a break.
[Xperia Z3 General] jonamafun:
I agree. Shooting RAW on a phone doesn't make a whole lot of sense since the sensor is so small, processing power is limited, and storage capacities are very limited. You can already take full 20mp JPEGs - imagine how fast your memory would fill up shooting in RAW. The write speeds on large microSD cards is pretty abysmal, so you'd probably have to wait a good 5 seconds (at a guess) between shots.

To be honest, I think the specs of phone cameras are so low that in difficult lighting conditions, they really depend on software post-processing by the phone to make the image usable. Try shooting manual mode in low light conditions and see how far you get, as compared to Superior Auto.
[Xperia Z3 General] se1000:
I don't know about you guys but I'm not buying a Z4 unless they offer a version without a low pass filter.
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
RAW would be cool spec wise but I am not bothered about it yet.

Just wanted to point out that you can easily get 40/70 Read/Write MB/s on Cards like the Samsung PRO or Sandisk Extreme (U3 Version meaning min 30 MB/s). Only if you have cheap cards like the Sandisk Ultra or Samsung EVO will you suffer.
[Xperia Z3 General] jonamafun:
Try getting those speeds on a 128gig microsd card.
[Xperia Z3 General] CandyAndy:
I am not bothered about Raw at all BUT it looks like the automatic mode is still as bad as ever and that's a big no :(
[Xperia Z3 General] Huey85:
No one ever seems to be happy with anything nowadays..
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
The 128GB Sandisk is a low end Ultra...

Lexar (aka Micron/Crucial) however has a fast 128GB Card... 40/80 MB/s W/R in tests.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...irLLtjzaATqw9ryVA&sig2=zs-XYh25O15Ei5q3nvCo9Q
[Xperia Z3 General] nocomp:
raw good or not, well why not let people to judge by using it.

what i don t get, is why they disable all access to the new api for third party app?

one major issue i am facing, battery drain, autonomy divided by two easy :'(
[Xperia Z3 General] Cryssie:
Because the group of people who really understand what the RAW format is and have the software to do anything usefull with it is relatively small. The overwhelming majority of customers will enable it because they have read somewhere that RAW is better and then complain to Sony that it broke their phone because they cannot upload their latest selfie to instagram.

I would do the same if I were Sony.
[Xperia Z3 General] nocomp:
ok,

but then why block third parties apps?
[Xperia Z3 General] kernald:
They're not blocking anything. They just didn't implement an optional API (newly introduced in Lollipop). Implementing it is a lot of work, for a small gain.

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Please give this man a medal.

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I fully agree with the idea that the RAW support is useless on a smartphone (sensor is too small, not engough storage or too slow…). However, you don't need a 1000 dollar software to do anything with RAWs. I use Darktable really often, it does a really nice job. More noise than Lightroom and other expensive software, but for a casual use, it's really great for a free software. It doesn't run on Windows however, most people here would never know what to do with their RAWs anyway…
[Xperia Z3 General] radicans:
True, most people wouldn't use RAW/DNG or know how to deal with it. But that's no reason not to implement it. Being a programmer myself, implementing the conversion from RAW (already existing inside the driver) to DNG should be a very simple task. It is not absent in the lollipop update because it is difficult or time consuming to do, they have some other reason for it.

Having RAW output would enable developers to write very interesting camera apps, using alternative image processing techniques which would likely produce photos (jpgs) with way better image quality than what comes out of Sony's abysmally poor image processing engine. And maybe that is what they don't want? It would make them look bad.
[Xperia Z3 General] kernald:
Writing the raw output of sensor to DNG or other RAW format (Sony usualy uses ARW) is indeed simple. However, to be Camera2-compatible, you need much more things than just being able to write raws.
[Xperia Z3 General] radicans:
Yep, but according to the API guidelines it is not mandatory to be fully Camera2 compatible as far as I can recall. It is possible and allowed to only implement parts of it.

Also, I think DNG is the output demanded by the API specification.
[Xperia Z3 General] kernald:
I remember seeing a legacy level (the one we have here) and a full one, but not a partial. However I may be wrong.
[Xperia Z3 General] radicans:
There is indeed a limited level, along with legacy and full:

https://developer.android.com/refer...ta.html#INFO_SUPPORTED_HARDWARE_LEVEL_LIMITED

But seeing what you have to implement to reach full support, it seems as if the RAW/DNG functionality is outside of this scope. That is, a camera could report legacy level support, but still have DNG implemented, if I understand things correctly?

https://developer.android.com/refer...cteristics.html#INFO_SUPPORTED_HARDWARE_LEVEL
[Xperia Z3 General] dancress:
Jesus H Tap Dancing Christ, it's the RAW crowd. The only people even more self important than those who absolutely can't listen to anything other than FLAC because they'd DIE!!!! or something. On the subway, with their 3-euro-earbuds.

On a smartphone? With its toy optics? Really? Asks the semipro...
[Xperia Z3 General] danw_oz:
What do you keep bantering on about, really. RAW would be a mode you would have to actively select, and most likely an setting under like manual mode, or its complete own option. So you wouldn't have to process all your photo's unless you choose to

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Another that has no idea what they are talking about. Do you really think that google would add the ability to use camera raw if it was indeed a complete waist of time as you suggest??? I dont' think so.

My SD card is more than fast enough to capture a raw file, the phone also has enough ram to buffer some shots as they are being written to disk.

What RAW basically gives you

You have a native image straight from the image sensor, no software processing of the image just what the image sensor saw. (most importantly no noise reduction or sharpening)

Your images currently are only 8bit, chances are raw images will be able to support more bit depth allowing far more shades of colours.

You get to choose you white balance to any temperature as if you were selecting it at the time of shooting in jpg, but after the fact with no strange hues as you would if you tried the same with a jpg.

Lossless processing of photos.

You have pretty much complete control of the output of the final file, as a hypothetical example, superior auto vs manual control.

jpg - 8bit file format is capable of displaying 16.7 Million colours (256 shades per primary colour)

10 bit raw file - 1 billion colours (1024 shade per primary colour)

12 bit raw file - 68 billion colours (4096 shades per primary colour)

My DSLR 14bit raw files are capable of capturing 4.4 Trillion colours (16384 shades per primary colour)

In the example above when working in camera raw with raw files you have far more shades across the image to work with provided the image is not over or underexposed, this is also part of the reason why DLSR images look so much better especially with skin tones because the representation of these skin tones is much closer to what you can see with your eye.

Once you have tuned your shot exactly as you need then saving as a jpg will create the correct file indexed out of the 256 possible shades per primary colour based on the information provided from the colours within the final edited image.
[Xperia Z3 General] se1000:
With a tiny sensor and a really tiny lens, do you really feel that RAW vs JPEG is going to bring you a big benefit to your photos?

I feel like this is the equivalent of trying to race in F1 using a Vespa and arguing that if you had 93 octane gas vs 87, it would be better.
[Xperia Z3 General] jonmorris:
I'm no audiophile and don't even use RAW on my DSLR, as for the most part the pictures I get are good enough that I'm happy with the saved JPG image.

But on the Nexus 5, I've noticed that RAW does actually help simply because the processing on the phone isn't quite up to the same standard as a proper camera, not least the fact the image sensor is weaker in the first place. Thus, being able to do your own processing is possibly something I'd look to do every now and then.

So why not wish for it to be supported on the Z3? Especially when we can see how the camera app can decide that softening an image to hide noise is a good thing, which I am sure many of us would disagree with wholeheartedly.

As some have said, it would be optional. Joe Public could go on without ever even trying it or caring about what RAW is or what it means.
[Xperia Z3 General] danw_oz:
Yep, and so would Google which is why they developed it. And they are a little smarter than you or I, and if they thought it was pointless they wouldn't bother doing it.

Not sure about your stupid reference that is completely off topic and has zero relation to reality, or anything.

Take one photo indoors that your camera screws up the white balance, and without RAW your photo will NEVER look its best, with raw you choose you white balance and get the best from the shot. Boost the shadows and calm down the highlights, yep it does make a huge difference.

It's like saying is it better to use superior auto or manual? Manual every time because the user has control of the capturing settings, not the camera which doesn't get it right all the time.
[Xperia Z3 General] lee480:
Too bad, while Google developed it, most major OEM doesn't implement it, thankfully.