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[General Topics] JamesManios:
crash: I'm only going on 2 days for this theory, but I noticed my device would crash all the time while it was off, (about 4-5 times per work-day) until I turned OFF wifi. Its been 2 days now and not 1 crash. 2 days though is not really a long enough test but I would ask (for the people with crashes) do you have your wifi on?

My 2nd test will be this... I don't think it crashed until I turned PowerManagement ON for WIFI. I think at the start of having the device I had it on WIFI Performance but wanted to see if there was a battery drain and flipped it to power management, it was around that time that the crashes started.

This is kinda why I gave it a 5/10 ... like many of us, I think if HTC had build this phone it would not be so problematic, but its not a bad phone, it just needs some 'special' attention :-P
[General Topics] igalan:
I also set WiFi on Power Save, but I turn off WiFi when I'm done, seldom do I leave it turned on when I switch off the PDA. But I will pay more attention to this. Incidentally my F-S Loox N560 also has this same problem.

I wouldn't praise HTC too much. My old Qtek 9100 with the shipped ROM was buggier than the Flame, way buggier. You couldn't sinc with AS two times in a row without having to softreset in between; thanks to XDA-Developers lately it was fast and stable with WM6... The F-S Loox 720 was a very solid device, although ROMs weren't made by HTC, only the PDA itself. But that's another discussion.

Anyway I belive that we're going to have a WM 6 ROM, maybe later than expected. But the Flame will be in trouble if in the next two months isn't getting a new ROM. And I don't think O2 wants this for their top of the line PocketPC Phone Edition.
[General Topics] jags1:
we are so many people here bought this expensive device, what should we do that will make O2 think yes they need to bring a proper update for flame?should we email them everyday or start a petition?

whatever is flame right now,not more than a usual phone and bit of pda to me,i thought it was great but no most of its cool things are full of troubles so i am not using anything other than a phone/alarm/appointments, any 50 bucks crapy phone has these features too,why did i spend $1200+ and got this flame with full of feature as mentioned theater in my pocket? lol

ye you think i am upset,why ? because the way they advertised and gave wm6 hope etc and now you email them they say don't wait for anything we not sure what we doing right now. why am i asking for wm6 becuase it has very very less issues compare to current wm5 we using,this upgrade didn't happen for nothing,it had purpose behind it so we either need wm6 or atleast a upgrade soon with major issues solved.

am i asking too much here?
[General Topics] JamesManios:
[b]Overclocking[/b]: Some Results

I tried out some OC using PHM v4.08.023

Stock (performance) speed and settings are: 520Mhz Bus:208, Mem:104, LCD:104, L=16, N=5, A=1, LCD=0, T=1, FB=1 -> SI=415,MIPS=335, Mem=494

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624Mhz Bus:208, Mem:104, LCD:104, L=16, N=6, A=1, LCD=1, T=1, FB=1 -> SI=456,MIPS=400, Mem=512 -> passed the PHM benchmark but crashed in TCPMP benchmark Status = FAILED

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553Mhz Bus:221, Mem:111, LCD:55.25, L=17, N=5, A=1, LCD=1, T=1, FB=1 -> SI=441,MIPS=356, Mem=525 -> passed the PHM benchmark passed TCPMP benchmark Status = WORKING

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618Mhz Bus:247, Mem:124, LCD:62, L=19, N=5, A=1, LCD=1, T=1, FB=1 -> SI=488,MIPS=398, Mem=578 -> passed the PHM benchmark, crashed TCPMP benchmark Status = FAILED

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585Mhz Bus:234, Mem:117, LCD:62, L=18, N=5, A=1, LCD=1, T=1, FB=1 -> SI=462,MIPS=376, Mem=548 -> passed the PHM benchmark, passed TCPMP benchmark Status = WORKING

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Speed of 624, 650, 682 crashed PHM right away so I stopped going higher then 585 for my device it seems to be the stable limit, but as you all know, not all components are created equal, you might have more success then me.

I'm currently running at 585 will run it for a couple of days and tell you whats what...
[General Topics] djuri:
anyone who bought flame at anythingonline?
[General Topics] shaileshashar:
Anybody tried wm5torage on flame? does'nt seem to work.

Also anybody tried OzVGA/TrueVGA ?
[General Topics] Hagow:
Wow, all these complaints I am really starting to think that i have made the wrong decision. You guys are really sacring me. Please tell me something good....
[General Topics] JamesManios:
Having had the device for about 2 weeks, and looking at that screen on a daily basis, I don't think I could ever go back to QVGA.

Most of the problems 'should be' discoverable, and hopefully have some type of work around ... any 'maybe' we will get a new rom ...

So if you mostly wanted VGA, to watch movies or surf then its good at that. If size doesn't bother you then its very good at the above, if size bothers you, then consider its the 'current' smallest VGA phone out... and in time we will all buy something new, thats just the nature of these devices, so for now, its pretty good, (and maybe can be even better)
[General Topics] Hagow:
I do not use Bluetooth head sets and I make calls the old fashion way. I want a VGA device like my DELL x50v but with a phone. I read alot of RSS feeds, e-books and surf the web. I also use it for alot of movies and Mp3s, basically for alot of entertainment processes. Lastly Pocket Informant I use alot.

So hope it will treat me well!!!
[General Topics] JamesManios:
On to a new problem...

Anyone gotten MortPlayer to install/setup/play?

I've tried 3.31RC6 and RC7 and they both just crash periodically. Initially thinking it was overclocking I have turned it off (though the device is working for everything so far at 585) anyways, after turning off OC and resetting it still does not work. Very strange? Even the setup app will only get part way before crashing.

MortPlayer starts up and plays fine but will eventually crash within a couple of seconds. What is interesting is it will die and go away and the PDA is fine afterwards (really looks like just a crash in the app), but I have this very version running on my Prophet without a problem.
[General Topics] thierryb:
I bought flame at anythingonline
[General Topics] Tuningszocske:
So did I :)
[General Topics] Tuningszocske:
For anybody who has bluetooth headset problems:

I'm using Plantronics Discovery 640 as bluetooth headset since my previous PDA (QTEK9000). Like with the 9000, everything works well with the Flame without any hacking. So I think maybe Flame doesn't cooperate well with every bluetooth headset (like other PDAs), and the problem is not with the bluetooth manager on the Flame. Before I had a SonyEriccson headset, and I had a lot of problems with all the PDAs because of its battery save mode which is not recognizeable for the PDAs. Maybe this is the case with our new love. So, I'm using GPS, headset and laptop computer with bluetooth without any problem ever. Try to change your bluetooth-device with problem!
[General Topics] JamesManios:
Forum Idea

Since it doesn't look like we are going to get a seperate forum I was thinking, we could simulate one by creating NEW posts in the General forum with the same SEARCHABLE topic. For example {O2FLAME} if we started every topic that way, then when we logged in we could search for all {O2FLAME} articles and read the ones we like...

For example, I just make an article called {O2FLAME} - Cases ....

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1365340#post1365340

That way, if someone didn't care about cases they would not have to weed threw this article ignoring things they don't care about. Its up to you guys... (we would have to use the same thing to make it work). And you can't search for just 'flame' because the word flame (like to flame someone) is used in the forum everywhere!
[General Topics] Hagow:
I like the idea...by doing that we can make easy searches!

Is it possible to rename this thread itself to "{O2FLAME} - Check It Out!!!"
[General Topics] JamesManios:
Are you saying to make the captions always {O2FLAME} - Check It Out!!! or just that particular article?

I was thinking if it was something like "constant" - "subject" then someone could find them all by searching for "constant" and then reading the "subject" part to know if they cared or not .... (I also posted a link on the cases about the pouch I used)
[General Topics] djuri:
are you satisfied with them? how long it took until it arrived from confirming order? Had you it shipped by DHL express or standard?
[General Topics] igalan:
I also purchased mine at AnythingOnline. Their service is excellent :) .
[General Topics] Tuningszocske:
It took 25 days until it arrived. It shipped by standard. I'm not satisfied with them, beacuse I have one pixel error and I didn't get professional service when I contacted with them about the problem. They tried to escape assuming obligations to the warranty. So I was sent to the O2 directly, but they didn't want to help also. When I followed the instructions on the australian goverment and wrote a very hard letter to anythingonline they immediately answered and contacted with O2, but now we have the point that one pixel error is out of the warranty. So I have to accept it, although it was not a cheap toy with the taxes. Bhleeeeew....Anythingonline.......
[General Topics] keeekeee:
Really?? I bought mine and i didnt realized it has a ONE DEAD pixel on the screen. Only realized it when i try to take photo in a dark room.

I went to O2 service center myself, it took 3 days then they return a brand new one for me. Yeah only one deal pixel. Lucky me. My friend said maybe up to 3 or 5 dead pixels only can claim for warranty. so i was worry .... but they swap a new one after 3 days.
[General Topics] djuri:
hmm that su*ks..I am going to order it at anythingonline becasuse it's the cheapest way I found..I'd like to have it shipped by DHL express so I hope it will arrive faster..hoping also of no wrong pixels :confused:
[General Topics] igalan:
Dead pixels aren't usually covered under warranty unless you have several of them. I don't know how many, but it's the same if you purchase O2 or HP or HTC or whatever :( . I usually try to purchase in a place where I can return it if a single pixel is bad, but in this case I didn't have much options, so I rolled the dice...
[General Topics] archel:
Unstable Screen

Has anyone experienced that their Flame screen isn't stable such that at a tap by stylus or finger, one can feel that the screen will move. In my experience specifically somewhere in the left bottom corner, I can feel that the screen won't 'absorb' the tap but rather it will dip. I had my first unit replaced by the local distributor (which has been very helpful), but the second new unit after a week has the same problem.

Has anyone got a similar concern?
[General Topics] keeekeee:
i guess i was lucky since i can face to face and make noise to them. saying things like so expensive device, why shd i accept one dead pixel?? heheheh

anyway did u guys try Wisbar Advance 2 on flame? work? stable?

Dun know why my itech clip D working with my flame now but some people said my sound is very soft. then i need to hold the bt close to my mouth. em...... already order a Sony Ericsson BT. Will get it on Monday. see how it goes. hopefully it will work better. thanks
[General Topics] andyh:
It seems like the Flame has a problem with dead pixels. I bought two and each has a dead pixel.

Yes, Wisbar Advance works for me.

Andy
[General Topics] igalan:
Mine has no dead pixels, or bad subpixels. But the screen sometimes seems to move very slightly on the bottom when pressing with the stylus. But it's very subtle, nothing to worry about.
[General Topics] Tuningszocske:
Hey Keekee! Where do You live? It is very annoying to hear that somebody just walked in there and had luck. If I lived there I would make it also. I have very big sound. :)
[General Topics] Tuningszocske:
I'm using Wisbar Advance 2, it is stable and working since we have enough RAM. You can see my screenshots a few pages earlier with WA. Maybe you didn't make your homework? How do you read this forum? Just one or two post reading..? :)

Another thing you have to be careful with!!! As I suggest:) you should read the forum, beacuse I posted something very useful for You: "For anybody who has bluetooth headset problems:

I'm using Plantronics Discovery 640 as bluetooth headset since my previous PDA (QTEK9000). Like with the 9000, everything works well with the Flame without any hacking. So I think maybe Flame doesn't cooperate well with every bluetooth headset (like other PDAs), and the problem is not with the bluetooth manager on the Flame. Before I had a SonyEriccson headset, and I had a lot of problems with all the PDAs because of its battery save mode which is not recognizeable for the PDAs....."

So, if I were you, I wouldn't buy SonyEriccson bt headset, except I tried one.
[General Topics] dollardollar:
Hey does flame could connect to internet through USB directly form modem.

I have a modem with usb and wanted to connect to my flame, but not through the pc. Could this be done?
[General Topics] jags1:
yes it does!!!
[General Topics] thierryb:
Are you sure? did you try it really? where you able to use a usb modem?

Not to use the Flame as an usb modem!
[General Topics] swain69:
See response from O2, seems like WM6 is still in the pipeline :

Thank you for contacting O2 Asia Technical Support.

With regards to your response below, kindly be advised that our engineers are currenly testing the Windows Mobile 6 on Xda Flame. However, kindly note that there is no news at the moment regarding the release date of Windows Mobile 6 on Xda Flame.

Should you require any further assistance, kindly reply to this e-mail. Thank you.

Warmest Regards,

O2 Technical Support (Email)

Asia Pacific Region

For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products,

please visit http://www.seeo2.com
[General Topics] keeekeee:
me locatied in asia :) yeah i think i can feel your big sound here already :)
[General Topics] Tuningszocske:
HeeHee :) But in which country? Just to know exactly the place, because I will maybe continue the warranty proccess follow by your success.
[General Topics] keeekeee:
for your information, they will not entertain at all if i buy the flame from Singapore, and claim the warranty in Malaysia or thailand.

I'm fr Malaysia :)

thinking to buy the motorola S705 stereo bluetooth headset for flame. hopefully it works .... currently using itech clip d. still got problem. sometimes work, sometimes do not :(
[General Topics] jags1:
blue-ant works perfect for me.
[General Topics] djuri:
let us know then please, I'd like to buy S805 :)
[General Topics] keeekeee:
man o2 flame once gone to suspend mode, it turn off the bt itself, once incoming call come in after one hour time. it wont connect to the bluetooth headset unless we wait til the bluetooth connection connected ( like 30sec or more ) sometimes it doesn't even connect unless i press the call button on the bt headset. so frustraded ... still no solution guys?
[General Topics] igalan:
If looked up and down on the registry to change this behavior, but nothing has worked so far :( . I've looked at other PocketPCs that had this same behavior, like the Universal (with some ROMs), but with no success either.
[General Topics] keeekeee:
i send email to o2. o2 replied as follow:-

Thank you for contacting O2 Asia Technical Support.

Kindly note that as these bluetooth headsets are developed and belong to the 3rd party developer, O2 (Asia) Technical support may not able to provide full support on these hardware. Users will have to contact the vendor for more information regarding the compatibility of the hardware/software with the O2 Xda Flame (WM 2005 OS).

Users will have to contact the bluetooth headset developer for more information regarding the compatibility of the software with the O2 mobile devices before any actual purchase.

** Some bluetooth headset provide trial version for user to test before any actual purchase. You may wish to refer to the developer/reseller for more details.

Thank you.

I wondering if i buy the XA-06 from o2 and IF also dun work with flame then what would they reply? anyone using XA-06 with flame here?

http://www.seeo2.com/product/XdaFlame/template/XdaFlameAccessories.vm#XA-06
[General Topics] igalan:
That answer only shows that whoever wrote that, had no idea what he's talking about. The Bluetooth radio on the Flame turns off when the device is suspended and this is by desing; there is no compatibility issue with the headset/handsfree at play. Because after that the BT radio is off the headset/handsfree is disconnected and can no longer initiate calls no matter what brand you use; also once you receive a call the Flame will need quite a few seconds to reestablish the link, and by that time you may have missed the call.

No other device that I've had shows this behavior. The HTC Touch can be suspended but its BT radio remains active and connected to the headset/handsfree, the same happens on the Wizard and almost any other PocketPC Phone out there. Turning the BT radio off in suspend mode is a bad decission no matter how you look at it.
[General Topics] JamesManios:
Just to re-cant my earlier statement of battery life, (I think I had it syncing/charging) when I was saying 60% at the end of the day, cause now I get about 35-40% battery at the end of the work day. Last night, went out for a drink, got on the train at 9:30pm and the battery was at 14%; watched a movie and the whole phone died (after a couple of warning), didn't even make it home. MAN does this battery situation suck.

Anyone bought an extended battery yet, like maybe even that ebay 2000mhA one? At this point any increase would be welcome. I have a theory that its the radio ramping up power to find signal, (I have bad signal in my office) so that its draining faster, going to turn the gsm radio off after I get a consistent baseline with it on to compare, (though what good is a PDA/phone without the phone). My old Prophet is looking better and better every second. :-(
[General Topics] djuri:
I've ordered that ebay battery, it has been shipped today, I'll test it then..
[General Topics] JamesManios:
A cradle thats in stock...

http://cgi.ebay.com/PDair-USB-Cradl...QQihZ012QQcategoryZ146435QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Its not necessarily better then the one mentioned before, (cause that one can charge a second battery and comes with a lower amp battery), but they still don't have it in stock unfortunately.
[General Topics] naval_notorious:
need help

hey, i got my O2 XDA Flame from HongKong. i m using it since last 2 weeks.

I am facing some major problem.

Sometimes i cannot disconnect the call. And sometimes i cannot dial.

This happens constantly after 10-15 calls. And everytime i need to Soft Reset Or Re-start the phone.

Kindly Help!!
[General Topics] keeekeee:
see what they replied this time, as follow :-

Thank you for contacting O2 Asia Technical Support.

With regards to your response below, kindly be advised that the Xda Flame would be compatible with Bluetooth® Stereo Headset XA-06.

Should you require any further assistance, kindly reply to this e-mail. Thank you.

man i am tired without bt headset. now using my dopod 838Pro and keep the o2 flame inside the box til the new rom (wm6) to solve the problem! if still cannot help then better sell it on ebay. damn o2 ... lousy customer service. They still don't understand what the actual problem ant the bt connection.
[General Topics] thierryb:
My list of bugs

Here is my list of bugs and I will appreciate if some of you confirm them. It will help us to convince O2 and Arima to do something because at present time O2 is completely deaf.

1/I have set my phone to turn off after 1 min (Settings/System /Power). When I do a call that last more than 1 min, the phone turns off but I can continue to talk. When I close the conversation, the phone goes on but without backlight. And touchingthe screen does not go the light on.

Do you have the same issue?

My workaround: power off and on the phone, and the backlight is back.

Answer of O2: the Flame has been designed like this. So that is normal.

Funny answer!

2/ I have discovered using memmaid or sktools that the notification database grows after each soft reset by adding always the same lines:

\\.\Notifications\NamedEvents\FM_SysTimeChange;

\\.\Notifications\NamedEvents\MyTimeZoneEvent;

\\.\Notifications\NamedEvents\SPSCalendarListenerEvent;

Do you have the same issue?

Workaround: delete them with those tools.

Answers of O2:

- You are using third party applications, o2 does not support 3rd party applications.

- You have no problem If you do not use those softwares. So what is the problem ?

Funny answers!

3/ We already know that the Flame do not discover 2 gb Sandisk micro Sd after a softreset or a switch on

2 workarounds:

- switch off and switch it on after a period of two seconds

- or reinsert the card

Answers of O2:

- the Flame supports only 1 gb cards.

- the Flame support 2 gb cards, but you have not the list of supported one

- change of brand, we can not support third party device

So I do not want you confirm the buy b.t it could be usefull for all of us to have a list of cards that works and that does not work.

So I all start:

Sandisk 2gb Does not work

4/With some 3rd party applications the display on the screen is bizarre when something is over like a dialog box or a menu. In that case, everything goes as if it cuts the screen in rectangular subscreen and draws in each subscreen what would have to be drawn in the whole screen. Sometime pictures are better than words, so I have attached screen shots.

Can you confirm this bugs?

I guess you know the answer of o2. You win. That's third party applications.

I think it could be usefull for us to have a list of softwares with this problem. I start it.

- Garmin Que

- NoniGpsPlot

- PV Player

5/ Also something we already guess, the Flame is less stable when going off, or even stay on with wifi on. I have made some statistical tests : a normal day with wifi always on, lost 2 phone calls, and need to reset it more than 3 times during the day, often after it tempt to switch on by itself (received phone call, received sms, appointment notification); a test day without wifi, no problem.

Can you confirm?

6/ Receive a phone call on a bluetooth headset starting from a switch off phone do not work.

Can I confirm?

I can't. I have no problem. The phone switch on with bluetooth activated, and connect to my headset. My headset is a Plantronic Discovery 640.

If somebody wants, I can verify settings or registry values.
[General Topics] thierryb:
Never had this problem. Have installed any software ? Do a backup, a hard reset, and try again. Then decide if you restore the backup or not.
[General Topics] shaileshashar:
Such a lot list of bugs and still a happy flame's owner !!!
[General Topics] JamesManios:
1. Haven't noticed that one, but haven't looked either. You might want to consider something like PhoneAlarm which can turn the display off right away and see if the results change, (since it turns the display on when you hang up)

2. I can confirm the notifcation dbs, and have them deleting via mem-maid, prior to mem-maid I had 147 notifications. Sadly, I'm not too suprised that O2 support have no clue; I would recommend everyone use something like memmaid since it will eventually slow down the device if left unchecked.

3. This has happened to me only a handful of times, but does happen. I have a 2gig Transcend

4. I have never had this one

5. Yes I noticed this, I have wifi OFF now, but I think it might be even MORE unstable if you have it on AlwayOn or Auto battery performance for wifi. I found it the most stable (and battery draining) with AlwaysOFF

6. I can recieve calls fairly well, but voice-dialing using VoiceCommand is not usable, for my bluetooth device there is terrible feedback so that the device can not make out the name at all. This bluetooth device has worked with 4 other HTC devices so its something flame related.