yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Topics] TourisT:
in expansys australia they say "will be available in 7 days" since 2-3 weeks ago.

try to watch it again today....surprise!!!....available in 7 days

and so day after day

so they don't know when it will be available
[General Topics] HDJ80:
Flame in ebay

Caution, WITHOUT tv out cable.

http://cgi.ebay.es/Brand-New-O2-XDA...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[General Topics] greatestkelvin:
Don't buy O2 flame

Do not buy this machine. Its a piece of crap. Let me tell you why:

1. The battery life sucks.

2. The machine gets overheated very quickly

3. The support sucks big time, till now there have not even figured out how to install Windows Mobile 6 on it. By the time they figure out, probably they will be a new model. Go through this forum and u can see so many complaints about O2.

4. After using it for a few days, the charging light does not go off. I brought it back to the service center and they told me its normal that sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.

5. With that kind of money u are paying why not just pay a little more and get the Dopod U1000. This is far more superior machine. If money is a problem, buy the latest Eten or HTC.

Luckily I managed to sell it, I will never touch an O2 phone again.
[General Topics] HDJ80:
1. True, I need two batteries for a complete work day, but a second battery is very economical.

2. My Flame is not overheated.

3. I am still waiting WM6.

4. That does not happen in my Flame.

5. Currently there is no other machine with the features of the Flame: 3.6 VGA screen, size, TV out, USB host, 128 MB RAM, 2GB ROM ...
[General Topics] jags1:
you got rid off flame ,good luck to you with new device, my comments against yours are:

1: i don't mind this type battery,could be better but second battery has good life.

2: machine does not get over heated at all.i watch tv/movies,leave constant charge for hours no problems.

3:o2 support sucks big time thats true, different ppl got different complaints on this forum,some got lesser issues than others,like myself i have very few issues and they are acceptable untill wm6 arrives or they are solve by another rom.

4: charging light goes off, no problems, even if it was a issue still wouldn't bother me.

5:htc athena dopod u1000 i did use before flame, that device had bugs too, 8gb hd was a big issue in that one,however u1000 is not a pocket-able device but o2 flame is and weight 365g against 190g is a huge difference.

conclusion is: if you can handle few small issues and wait for newer rom or wm6 then there is no other device beats flame,thats for sure.
[General Topics] greatestkelvin:
get rid of your o2 flame

Don't count on O2 to deliver the Windows Mobile 6. By the time they come out with it, probably Windows Mobile 7 will be on most pdas.. frankly this is an old outdated device. The computer shops are already selling it at 40% discount. On the contrary Dopod U1000 is still selling roughly the same price. True its a lighter device but its an inferior machine. The processor is only 520mhz vs Dopod U1000 which is running at 624mhz. Even the Dell x51v launched 2 years ago is faster that the O2 flame. The graphic processor they have on the O2 is not even compatible with most games. I think they should name it O2 slow.

Listen to my advice guys, don't ever purchase an O2 device again.. its only for your own good.
[General Topics] thierryb:
O2 XDA Flame have a lot of minor issues like most devices have. But in the category of 3.6" vga it is the only one with a lot of additional features : 3g data and phone, direct tv output, 2 gb internal flash memory, usb host. And sure I have missed some.

I recommend warmely this device that is better than my previous loox720 and my acer n311.
[General Topics] jags1:
you keep talking about U1000 mate, ppl won't be selling their flames and get U1000 which isn't even a phone looking thing, do you know that brick doesn't even have ear-phone? that means call comes and you talk to your caller only on speaker phone,that was a joke to me,not practical at all, i got rid off that machine in first month but with o2 flame i am still holding on because it has everything somebody ever needed,one more thing that u1000 had dropped its value in first month sale in australia,i saw ppl selling their near new units for about aud800 on ebay cause it wasn't worth keeping, it was kinda joke not a phone,they put 8gb hard-drive in it and that was a bad move, major issue was hard drive was getting confused with either external sd card or internal rom,i had that machine freezing bad everyday, noway you could compare that one with o2 flame,i used these both units for longer enough and can write pretty good reviews on them,i like htc myself but not that brick dude,bring something else better because ppl prefer flame over u1000 thats for sure.
[General Topics] HDJ80:
My flame is running between 312 and 624 MHz with xcpuscalar.
[General Topics] Arasagumar:
Hi! HDJ20,

TQ for ur information, its very useful. How to make or change registry to play radio permanently by speaker with earphone wire plug in. Why I ask because our Flame got O2 Media Plus which got Alarm with FM Radio. I try to set Alarm with FM Radio but it play only through earphone not by speaker. Any suggestion?
[General Topics] DaFingr:
Flame....should be burnt

This phone is huge man!!....sure it has neat specs(no GPS)....but the sheer size is a turn off....i seriously recommend the HTC Kaiser,I mate ultimate series instead of the Flame.....
[General Topics] thierryb:
Do you have a Kaiser or an Ultimate ?

Did you owned or used a Flame?

If you do not answer yes to both questions your remark will be unqualified.

If you answer yes, we will be interested by a more precised comparison.
[General Topics] CWKJ:
Nothing of QVGA can beats VGA.

The only one comparable was HTC Universal and some VGA screen PDA phones. But all are big ones and none are small size phones.

Soon small VGA Pda phones will be out, but ... will have to wait to see before comments.
[General Topics] DaFingr:
Who r u to disqualify(not unqualify!) my opinion?....

Yea,I owned an O2 XDA Flame.....used it for 3 months!!....sold it....

No,i dont own an HTC Kaiser but i checked it out at a local store....will probably buy it....

Im sure u like the Flame man....but everyones entitled to their own opinions....PEACE!
[General Topics] HDJ80:
My O2 Media Plus Alarm with FM Radio play always through speaker.

To the alarm with FM radio does not work the registry changes, you must connect always the headphones, but it play trough speaker.
[General Topics] HDJ80:
What happen with xdaflameusers?

http://www.xdaflameusers.com/
[General Topics] thacvinh:
Need help on XDA Flame GPRS Authentication

My XDA Flame doesn't have icon option for selecting PAP authentication and CHAP authentication. Normally, every O2 phone must have "GPRS Setting" as some mobile network provider require them in order to make our phone connect to their GPRS network. But very strange that my XDA Flame doesn't has that setting. anyone here know how to make my Flame available to set PAP or CHAP authentication please assist me.

The Screen shot from my XDA Flame.
[General Topics] swain69:
routine maintenance...should be up and running later.
[General Topics] thierryb:
Kaiser is 2.8" Flame 3.5"

Kaiser has keyboard Flame not

You are right, Peace.

I like banana, and you prefer apple.

We do not need to like the same thing.

You prefer a phone that could be used as a pda; I prefer a pda, that could be used as a phone.
[General Topics] DaFingr:
Thats right :) ....
[General Topics] HDJ80:
Thanks.

It is working now.
[General Topics] TourisT:
now the flame is not available even in expasys australia

will the flame be the shortest life PDA?

I was very interested in this PDA, but only if XDA would have updated it with WM6 and solved all the bugs (the BT problem is Imperative for me)

now I'll wait for the new uncoming VGA PDAs: X800, i-mate,...
[General Topics] thierryb:
Now games adapted to the goforce :

http://www.xdaflameusers.com/viewtopic.php?id=180

http://www.xdaflameusers.com/viewtopic.php?id=194
[General Topics] ell82:
nvddi.dll

Could anyone please copy nvddi.dll file from his Flame (it is in Windows directory) and attached it here? It is very important, thanks.
[General Topics] greatestkelvin:
you are entitled to your opinion

yes I agree, those guys are just feeling so bad that they made the wrong choice buying the Xda Flame. They feel stupid and they are trying to convince the rest of the world that they are wrong.. After reading the forums they simply do not know what they want. If they want a small size and a built in speaker there is HTC Tytn2 or even the older model Dopod 838pro. If they want the best pda, there is the Dopod U1000.

1. Xda Flame has poor battery life

2. Xda Flame has poor customer support, (O2 users even have to use xda developers which is owned by HTC to complain)

3. no windows mobile 6

4. device gets heated up. (some users are saying theirs is fine. But this shows poor quality control as not all are working properly before they sell it)

5. O2 sucks big time.

SELL that lousy machine and buy a HTC tytn2 since u guys want a small cute device..
[General Topics] observer365:
Greatestkelvin

I believed that you are one those whose been using the Xda Flame...otherwise how do you all the so-called lacks in Xda Flame...
[General Topics] thierryb:
Some like the Flame. And some don't.

If you do not like, why you post here?

This device is great. It is the good compromise between the tytn2 and the advantage.

This thread was mainly used as an help between people that have purchased it and wants to keep it. Please, respect this goal.

So if you do not like your Flame, sell it. Tell us why if you want once. Then go elsewhere. Here we need help only.
[General Topics] jags1:
i suggest : before you post here you should read my comments against yours over n over and feel if you look stupid yourself or not ? whoever doesn't liek flame or sold their flame why r u hanging around here i suggest again. F**** off with word peace!!!
[General Topics] igalan:
You're also missing the Band Selection icon. If you had an earlier backup with these options present, your best bet is to hard-reset and restore that backup. Else a hard reset is the only way I know to get them back... Remember to back up before.
[General Topics] igalan:
I don't want a small cute device, I want a pocket-size device with a large VGA screen that can still be used as a regular phone. I can do without hardware keyboard, but not without large VGA screen. A small 2,8" VGA screen wouldn't be as convenient, as text size would be too small to read comfortably

Oh, yes the Flame does need a better ROM. I'm not arguing about this. So let's move on, you made your points and moved to a different device, let the ones who still use it go on with their discussions.
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
kevin, flaming and ridiculing Flame users will not be tolerated in this thread. You've been warned.
[General Topics] Knightro:
If you're looking for the one attached, you can find it under Settings - Personal - Phone - Band Selection.
[General Topics] HDJ80:
In my Flame is in settings - connections - band selection.

My flame is:

ROM version WWE RC1070309

BootLoader version V2.2C601

GSM version P6A2

extROM version WWE RM 070516

RIL version v08.60
[General Topics] saman2184:
mail to o2

pls help me for send e-mail to o2 for remove or slove any problem into wm5 flame .

this rom full problem. among the phone setting not work in search & find network and fix or set networks.my phone in some place not work network and no service ..

after install any program phon dailer not work and phone hanging.or my bluetooth not work or work for any time and not fix and very problem in this rom.

but this device very good than very other's pda .only rom's very bad work.

pls help for me for remove problems..:mad:
[General Topics] swain69:
I think most of us here have send emails to O2. Apparently they are busy testing a WM6 ROM.

How do you activate your bluetooth? Through the wireless manager or through another progams interface?

For me, the dialer skin goes funny sometimes, but after reset everything is fine.

List the software you have installed and we can try and help you.
[General Topics] greatestkelvin:
Why

Why are you guys hanging around in a website that belongs to HTC. You guys have nowhere to go but to hang out in our website and u are telling me to F..... off. Watch your language punk.
[General Topics] thierryb:
Kelvin, sended a pm to you. Hope you will understand Thanks
[General Topics] shaileshashar:
Have you GONE NUTS, xda-dev does NOT belong to HTC.
[General Topics] jags1:
dude, i don't know if i should keep replying your posts or not.hopefully you will understand thierryb's pvt msg,not sure what he said in his msg but it may calm you down a bit. i used word F....off that was bit over-board (maybe) but read your comments you called everyone STUPID here,thats why it made me go bit further than that,i respect everyone here and i know there are really highly respected ppl in this forum too,calling them stupid is not a good thing,however,

i think we should finish this here and split peacefully?
[General Topics] jags1:
ppl have been talking about eten x800 here and kinda comparing it with our beloved flame, i will be receiving x800 by next week, will post my honest comments here about how good x800 is and will tell you that which one i kept after reviewing both...!
[General Topics] CWKJ:
Err...

First, shaileshashar is right that this forum does not belong to HTC.

Second, Flame full name is called O2 XDA Flame. So at least it has a XDA word there. O2 XDA's has a long history between O2 & HTC although that are no longer partners now.

Third, I used to have a Universal which I spent more time here and contributed to the Universal forum than I did with Flame here.

Forth, my other half's Trinity is a gift from me which I read and contributed to Trinity forum.

Fifth, you should do a check on why the people hang around here by do a simple profile research on what they do here.

Sixth, even they did not contribute and do not own any HTC devices, they have every right and freedom to hang out anywhere they wish to.
[General Topics] HDJ80:
XDA flame in expansys

484,95

http://www.expansys.es/p.aspx?i=148478
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
He's right in that we don't (and won't) have non-HTC forums. However, XDA-Dev in no way depends on / belongs to HTC. It's not a subsidiary of HTC and isn't even supported by them.
[General Topics] greatestkelvin:
Lets all just hide the truth

Xda flame is not a HTC phone. Why is it allowed to have a forum here? Shall we also start a forum on Ipod phones or my Logitech remote control?

Seems like everyone does not want the truth. Ok let me write again.

1. Xda flame has the best battery life, almost 200 hours

2. The support of O2 is so good that they wanted to buy me a coffee when I sent my old unit for a repair only after using it for 4 days. And guess what they told me there was nothing wrong and its normal that sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.

3. Their service is so good that they are writing Windows Mobile 7 right now tat is why Windows Mobile 6 is not issued.

4. Their processor is the fastest at 624 mhz. Though 2 years ago I had a Dell x51v with 624mhz.

5. It has the biggest screen and the best voice quality in the mkt.

6. They have such a superior product tat they have to cut prices by more than 40% because they want to be kind to consumers.

I hope this pleases everyone.
[General Topics] saman2184:
boot loader

hi all

for set bootloader pls poke strek (2 line ) for 3 sec and press reset for 1 sec

but only upgrade with sD

for upgrading press vol message and start win on flame for 3 sec and press reset for 1 sec

but no rom .no radio....

only need rom of flame or ultimate:D
[General Topics] HDJ80:
Please, can you explain better? I dont understand it.

Thankyou very much.
[General Topics] S1MB4D:
no offence but if you bothered to do some research you would find that wm7 may not be out until late 08/early 09

i think what you are referring to is wm6.1 which again if you did some research you would find that it is made for smart phones that dont have a touch screen!

my guess is that o2 are just taking their time with wm6 as the c****d up wm5 on the device, so now they want to get everything done all in one go so that they dont have to upgrade the ROM again as they want to move onto their next device which will have wm7
[General Topics] thierryb:
If you explain better, I can try to work on the rom.
[General Topics] saman2184:
bootloader

hi all,

pls press and keep two key (line )=> ( ___ & ___ ) after press reset key but after reset keeping two line key

and press and keep stratup program & message keys after reset key .

_________________________________________________________:)

pls i can not flash Kitchenrom..

pls help me

thanks for all

o2flame

htc touch
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
You're mistaking real subforums (like that of the HTC Universal) to individual threads (inside a forum) like this. It's only that non-HTC-manufactured devices don't have.

Look, it's flaming that we don't want. Telling the truth is pretty OK unless you also mock and ridicule people, telling them they're a complete losers because they've chosen to stick with their Flame.
[General Topics] thierryb:
I did not succeed to enter in bootloader.

What I have made :

I click and maintain the two soft keys (left and right ---), while maintaining I do a reset, and I continue to maintain the two keys.

But the Flame do only a soft reset.

Can you correct the way I do please.

In addition, can you tell us where/how you find this solution.

Thanks.
[General Topics] saman2184:
KEEP AND AFTER RESET KEEP TWO SOFT KEY (-,-) FOR 3 SECOND
[General Topics] HDJ80:
Some threads about non HTC PocketPC devices:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=330748

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=331803

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=322498

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=318411

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=311140

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=279777

...and about iphone

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=289272
[General Topics] thierryb:
This is exactly what I do. But the pda start windows mobile as a standard soft reset.
[General Topics] jags1:
if you think this is the way to get into bootloader and you have done yourself then why don't you place a screen shot here to make pplz life easier?

i personally don't think thats the way to get into it.correct me if i m wrong.cheers
[General Topics] thierryb:
Did you try it also?

But with a screenshot you will see nothing.

What he can do to help us is to take a short video or photos of the different steps with his flame in his hands. But for that he needs 4 hands.
[General Topics] saman2184:
screen bootloader not stop

because my flame after boot loader screen not fix and not stop for get screen shot.
[General Topics] saman2184:
flash tools

hi all.,

i need for flashing to flash tools .but no flash tools

i thinks flash tools of atom life work for flame

pls search for flash tools

thanks for all;)

_____________________

o2 flame

htc touch
[General Topics] HDJ80:
I found an interesting thing.

If you enter in hard reset mode (clean boot screen), press and keep "no" button and IMMEDIATELY press and keep "yes" button: "image file not found" appears in a green colour message.

Perhaps taking a file NB0 in microSD, starts ROM update.
[General Topics] HDJ80:
Is there anyone who risk to copy the file diskimage.nb0 and eboot.nb0 from extendedROM to microSD and try it?

I do not dare. In Spain there is no O2 technical service to fix it if something goes wrong.
[General Topics] jags1:
that was good one. lolzz
[General Topics] thierryb:
you probably have the solution, but we are not able to reproduce what you can do. If you help us to be at the same level Of knowledge as you, we could probably help you to go further.

Can you take photo of each step with a camera? you will probably need the help of a friend to take the photos.
[General Topics] CWKJ:
Looks like I missed a lot of exciting things happening here.
[General Topics] HDJ80:
A big little keyboard for our flames.

http://freedominput.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13&Itemid=30
[General Topics] jags1:
we r trying to create some excitements but not happening at the moment,you are most welcome to join in :)
[General Topics] zakeen:
Got some questions before I buy:

Ive heard that the flame cant play Doom, is this correct?

Whats the biggest microSD it can take with your Rom updates?

Is this the best 3.5" PDA phone out?

Think a slimmer version is around the corner? its been a while since a phone in the category has been released.

thanks heaps!
[General Topics] thierryb:
The biggest official microsd is 2 gb.

Some have installed sdhc cab found here for other devices, that help them to use sdhc 4 gb. But they loose wifi.

This is not the best 3.5" vga phone, it is the only one.

Previous one was years ago and bigger, and next one was the ultimate 7105 also bigger, but was canceled.

Concerning Doom, I do not know, I do not play Doom.
[General Topics] jags1:
doom works on flame.
[General Topics] saman2184:
flash on o2 life

i thinks to be flash for flame need this file on pic

http://rapidshare.com/files/67205938/life_flash.jpg.html

but for flash not tools

____________________________

o2 flame

htc touh
[General Topics] saman2184:
new site for o2 support

new site for o2

new device flame 2....

it:http://www.mwg.com

_____________________________

o2flame

htctouh
[General Topics] thierryb:
You told us that you know how to make the Flame to be in bootloader mode. Some of us have tried what you proposed (maintain two soft keys and do a reset), but no one succeeded yet.

Can you make some photos of the different steps and of the result and post here.

I think we already have files for flashing the Flame. We have already two files: eboot.nb0 and diskimage.nb0

We have already verified that these files have been used to flash our flame.

We have already verified that we can use the different kitchens available here to cook the diskimage.nb0 file.

It miss us the step you have: be in bootloader mode. If. you know, tell us!

Perhaps after we will discover that other files are missing, but we will progress step after step.

The most important step now is:

BE IN BOOTLOADER MODE

Thanks
[General Topics] saman2184:
bootloader

ok. pls thid method for tobe bootloader

press and keep two line keys on flame (keypad)+ reset

but press and keep 2 line key ( -,-) before and after reset

see screen bootloader but my flame afetr bootloader not stop screen for get photo.

pls pls set bootloader but this for upgrade on sd .

i need falsh tools for upgrad from pc
[General Topics] A_2:
boot loader done

ok i get bootloader but for 0ne seconds on screen

:)
[General Topics] HDJ80:
Some things about this:

This works in my new PNY 2GB microSD but not in sandisk 2GB microSD.

If I formated PNY 2GB microSD in PC it not work :(

If I formated PNY 2GB microSD in canon camera it work :)

I think exist one relation between bootloader and SD formated sistem.
[General Topics] HDJ80:
If I formated sandisk 2GB microSD in canon camera, now it work :)

And now flame detec it inmediately after soft reset :)