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[Xperia Z3 General] kamlesh_sexy:
Android 5.0, Lollipop rollout: Xperia Z3 & Xperia Z3 Compact from today 16.03.2015

As promised way back in October 2014, Sony is now starting to roll out an upgrade to Android Lollipop for users of its existing Z3 and Z3 Compact devices.

Announced today in a blog post, it says that other Z Series products will start to get the upgrade in about two weeks. For now, it’s only Z3 and Z3 Compact devices for users in Nordic and Baltic countries, but a wider European release is expected shortly after.

the upgrade hit first devices in the Nordics and Baltics, continuing to further markets, for more Xperia Z Series products, starting in around two weeks time* – we’ll share the latest here, as it happens.

After blending Google’s first Lollipop release with our Sony software, some of the goodies include;

•Fresh, streamlined looks – based on Google’s material design, but retaining our minimalistic approach to interface and application design

•New look notifications and lock screen – with fully customizable settings, so you only get the information you really need

•Multi user profiles and guest mode – making it easy for family and friends to use your device, or the creation of dual environments for work and play…

•Android for Work – not only are business-ready Xperia smartphones and tablets unique devices for work – with waterproof form factors, great battery life and productivity features – they will now also be part of the Android for Work ecosystem

•Better storage control and customization – with the option to easily move applications from internal memory to SD card – giving you more control over your content, particularly useful for devices with slightly less space

Be sure to follow the blog and [MENTION=5448027]SonyMobile[/MENTION]News for all the latest as our rollout continues.

*Timing and availability may vary by market and/or carrier

Source> http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/03...lollipop-rollout-xperia-z3-xperia-z3-compact/
[Xperia Z3 General] gregbradley:
Please search, there is a lollipop ? thread already

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[One (M9) General] *Emix*:
1st full review is released today and it's not looking good for HTC, will update this thread with more reviews when released.

HTC One M9 Review - Where are the improvements?

Battery is comparable with G3/Lumia 930, screen is worst than M8 according to them...
[One (M9) General] rkial:
That review is so bad that I almost want to believe it was a bad unit..

Will wait for a couple more before getting worried
[One (M9) General] rkial:
You are funny.

Anandtech said they didnt find the S810 overheating. Some dutch website says a pre release version of the M9 gets hot.

There will be plenty of reviews coming in the next week or so.. lets just wait and see
[One (M9) General] Applesexual:
Yes, and Anandtech was using a reference device the size of a tablet, whose size helped with the thermals. We also don't know what else Qualcomm stuffed inside that tablet. There might have been some expensive cooling technology that we don't know of that won't be in the consumer devices.

Hell, that tablet scores a 62k on antutu, when we all know that 810 devices score 50-55k.
[One (M9) General] rkial:
As for the underlying SoC, it seems that a lot of the concerns with the Snapdragon 810 remain unfounded, as the One M9 was quite smooth even with this non-final build of software. It’s likely that while the Snapdragon 810 SoC itself is without issue, properly tuning all of the controls in Qualcomm’s big.LITTLE implementation is a much more difficult than a standard aSMP solution. Unfortunately, due to the non-final state of the software we are unable to present benchmarks of the device, but we will be sure to do this for the full review of the device. In general use, the phone remained cool and comfortable to use, and it was hard to really tell if the phone got any hotter than the M8 in practice, even in benchmarks. The One M7 is definitely far hotter in comparison due to its 28LP process used on the SoC in comparison.

From their M9 hands on.
[One (M9) General] amidabuddha:
I had the great desire to second this in that thread as well.

Looks like the OP here just like you has participated in marketing discussions only since his signing up in a Development forum isn't it strange? No ROMs, no Kernels discussions, no mods, just plain prasing on great Samsung.

Lol Sammy guys stop this please, we will all see is it worth once the devices get to the shops and the real-life reviews come as [MENTION=4972777]rkial[/MENTION] already said
[One (M9) General] LenAsh:
Thread cleaned. This is a Reviews thread, not a bun-fight. Neither is it a vehicle to bash HTC.

Keep it civil and on-topic please or it will disappear for good.
[One (M9) General] SPreston2001:
Why is it that everybody that says something negative about the M9 is trolling?? I am the biggest HTC fan and im not liking what im hearing about the M9! Im actually really disappointed because I really do think HTC builds the best phones in the market but the M9 just isnt stacking up too well. Considering the phone is so close to launch, I honestly dont think last minute software tweaks are gonna save it from everything. Do I think it can help some? Yes, but I really dont think HTC would have released test units if the software wasnt semi close to final. Companies know leaks happen so if you know the software is that bad then why risk bad press by releasing test units with buggy software that dont show off the phones potential? I dunno I really hope things turn around but HTC seems to be running out of steam. And before anybody says im "trolling" or a Samsung fanboy or whatever, just know I hate TouchWiz, never owned anything Apple and my last 6 devices have all been HTC outside of the Note 2....
[One (M9) General] Applesexual:
Thanks for your great post. Not everyone who's being critical is trolling. I hope people have a more open mind when reading internet comments.

In any case, here are the battery life figures for the M9 since the OP didn't include the charts in his post:

[IMG="M9 battery life"]http://abload.de/img/0011zluh.jpg[/IMG]
[One (M9) General] nabzilla1990:
Qualcomm will NOT release a processor they know is this bad and HTC would not release a device if it was this much of a failure.

I got the htc one m8 and loved it even on kit kat was super fast everyday use was perfect but got caught up in the hype of samsung marketing and got the plastic Note 4 have hated it since I got it should i mention Note 4 STILL HASNT GOT LOLLIPOP Just pitiful!!!

I suggest trying the HTC One M9 yourself before making bold statements and your personal use will always be different trying it out is worth the restocking fee.

Dont fall for the samsung marketing samsung can keep their plastic phone with glass and no microsd card slot. 64gb cards these days are only 25$

I'm sure somebody will say they cant follow my post mostly likely a samsung lover....lol
[One (M9) General] Applesexual:
At this point, I'd rather take the Note 4 over the M9.
[One (M9) General] BoneXDA:
At this moment I'm more worried about all these devices coming out with the broken Android 5.0. Even Android 5.1 produces memory leak problems on the Nexus 6, and all these radio issues and signal loss regardless of the device and software is something should've never happened under Google's guidance.
[One (M9) General] Applesexual:
"Author of the article on Tweakers here:

Actually, there was a worldwide embargo on reviews today at noon (Amsterdam time), but on Friday HTC contacted everybody and told them they were postponing the lifting of the embargo until Monday next week.

However, there were two sites who didn't really get this email: British PcAdvisor and Dutch blog AndroidPlanet, one of our competitors in the tech scene in Holland. We had an agreement with htc that we would publish if one or more websites broke the embargo, so that's what we did: publish it.

After the fact, HTC contacted PcAdvisor and persuaded them into removing the benchmarks and renaming it a 'hands on', while AndroidPlanet took their whole review offline.

That's when they called us to ask if we got take it offline as well, but we never do that (because our site is so well read and commented on, that a lot of links people shared won't work anymore for instance) and we felt we were not at fault because we made an agreement and stuck to it.

For the record, to the best of my knowledge the lifting of the embargo was postponed because of a boot issue, not because of issues with the processor or battery life.

Somehow, even after we published htc persuaded all the big media to not publish the review, although they must be ready to publish and the other media would have all the right in the world to consider the embargo broken and thus lifted. How htc persuaded all of them, I just don't know.

So yeah, basically htc did **** up an embargo, by resetting the date a few days in advance.

We did not expect the story about the heating problems becoming hot news (pun definitely intended ;)) in the English speaking world. We are writing in Dutch after all, a language only like 30 million people in the world understand (we always brag about having more unique visitors than there are Dutch speaking people, but that's ofcourse nonsense, because of the subjects on our site readers like technology a lot and probably use 2 or 3 or more devices to visit our site ;))"

I guess you can't use the "non-final software" excuse now. :(
[One (M9) General] Adam182:
The phone got delayed for software updates, so yes people could use that "excuse". We get that you dislike HTC and love Samsung but just give it a rest - Adam
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Software can fix dull screen? Nope

Btw no word about RAW, why htc is postponing it perhaps the only thing that could help the camera. Htc is acting like an amateur company this year I can't recognise them anymore
[One (M9) General] grrrr_unt:
Yes, non-final software is still a possibility because the review was still done on a phone running pre-final software. You can't deny the possibility that HTC is working on camera post-processing and other software bugs now. Plus, even during MWC, HTC employees continued to tell us that the phone's software was indeed not finalised, so there's that.

P.S. Tbh, your little story was interesting to read, but it didn't suggest anything about "non-final software" at all. It was simply an illogical conclusion
[One (M9) General] brholt6:
Did you even read what you posted? It didn't mention their unit having final software or even being a non preproduction unit. You're trolling way too hard. Let the phone get released, then if it has issues you can come back out from under your bridge.

You could also just not get an m9.
[One (M9) General] microcris:
Unfortunately where you se some smoke, usually, there is fire.

Lets wait and hope the tested Unit is a faulty one or without final hardware.

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M9) General] th3:
The guy saying 28nm will be hotter than this new tech... In semiconductor physics, it's the opposite (smaller process at these limits runs hotter and is much harder to control.)

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[One (M9) General] Applesexual:
The number of cores went from 4 to 8, meaning that the size of each core probably had to be shrunk in order to fit inside a smartphone SoC.

Smaller cores = hotter cores
[One (M9) General] AndreiLux:
tmac31 is correct. The battery results and everything written in part1 are from the new update. Everything that is missing (Gfxbench, PCMark, Basemark) didn't have enough time on the new update and will be in part2.
[One (M9) General] tmac31:
i was right then good. btw andrei hope i didnt understand review wrong. but phone is basically underclocked right?
[One (M9) General] AndreiLux:
It reaches full frequency for minuscule amounts of time.
[One (M9) General] zaaye:
Part 2 of the review is up. Not real good but there is a link at the bottom of the first article.

I'm wrong I think. Sorry
[One (M9) General] D15:
I think only when running known benchmarks, not on daily use.
[One (M9) General] alphaola:
I still dont get the necessity of 8 cores in mobile phones, why any phone would require to push the whole 8 cores at once is baffling (yes including games). I thought lollipop is supposed to be resource efficient. Sometimes you have to respect Apple because they use the appropriate resource for their devices as necessary. 4 cores @ 2Ghz running efficiently would be enough but then HTC will get bashed for not using more cores.

Whats under the hood is non-issue for majority of customers, its not as if you can upgrade it. "forum people" need to chill. Dont forget these reviewers are humans like you and reviews are OPINIONS, we are all entitled to one.

Now, if HTC is underclocking the device I would like them to come clean to say it and change the spec on the packaging and their website. That way, they not misleading customers.
[One (M9) General] AndreiLux:
Stop viewing it at 8 cores working at once and view it as 4 high power cores and 4 low power cores. I'm baffled people still complain about this 2 years after the first big.little SoCs have been out.
[One (M9) General] tmac31:
they should do that.

and apple isnt running on low specs. a8 is better than 2.7 ghz s805. and its using almost same power with 2 core and 1.4 ghz too. they are just different cpu s. you cant use 4 core a8 on a phone and you cant just put a57 cores alone on a phone a53 cores should be there for power efficency so 8 core is a must. its not for marketing.
[One (M9) General] Cryosx:
Am I miss interpreting something?

"The forthcoming part 2 will in turn look at the rest of our performance numbers – including a complete workup on new battery life numbers –"
[One (M9) General] alphaola:
Bro, either its big 4 and small 4 or any combination, the fact is... it is 8 cores.

Snapdragon website --- The Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 810 processor, the "ultimate connected computing processor," with 64-bit computing on 8 CPU cores.
[One (M9) General] Cryosx:
It's a thermal fix in expense of performance. This should help battery life like you said. As for performance, HTC is probably feeling like **** for having to do all this to make sure the phone doesn't run at un optimal temperatures. I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to stab Qualcomm for all this bull****. Anyway, HTC knows what the end user should get: smooth performance, good battery life, and a cool running phone. And they're going to deliver, albeit at reduced maximum performance. So yeah, it doesn't fix the inherent problems with the S810 but instead works around them and fixes the problems with the phone itself.
[One (M9) General] tmac31:
im ok with it as long as they stop cheating on benchmarks and advertise phone as 1.6 ghz cpu device.
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
this is interesting:

http://www.geeksnack.com/2015/03/23/htc-one-m9-vs-galaxy-s6-display-and-its-impact-on-battery-life/

battery life comparison between the M9 and S6
[One (M9) General] Cryosx:
That'd be fair I guess.
[One (M9) General] Sachinfan:
Bah! So disappointed after reading these reviews and some of the negatives are forcing me to give this a pass and choose between S6 or Z4(if it;s good). Really wanted to have this:mad:

Sour points :

1. As per Anandtech and 1 more site, the screen has actually gotten a little worse in terms of accuracy and has a greenish tinge to it - Sour but can be ignored if it looks good in hand.

2. Camera's low-light performance is a shocker : I mean quality may vary but they way it is giving foggy and out of depth photos is a big let-down for me...........because even by my very average expectations.......a 20mp shooter should do better.

3. Battery : Battery hasn't improved at all despite a newer SOC and 1080p screen.

I don't give too much weightage to benchmark tests or HTC keeping the same brilliant design of M8, but I as a consumer really wanted HTC to do the basics right ..............but they haven't.

It seems, or I presume, all the plaudits it got with the M8 and phone of the year awards.........has made them slip-up with M9 and I really think HTC, with their new CEO, needs a "Project Zero" of it;s own.
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
Dam this article looks so biased
[One (M9) General] combat goofwing:
So M9 13 hrs on very heavy use,S6 lasted 13 hrs of very average use.....seems battery life ain't that bad.The best review of all is YOU the useres .Stop bagging the M9 and get to a shop and use one when released
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
Well you really can't figure out battery life in a store and that's why we depend on users to deliver accurate information so we don't waste our money.
[One (M9) General] D15:
That doesn't make any sense, but at least she's getting some traffic out of this 'article'.
[One (M9) General] combat goofwing:
I meant for all aspects of the phone not just battery life
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
I think battery can be optimized with custom ROM and kernels :)
[One (M9) General] kekePower_:
A relatively favorable review of the One M9 in Norwegian.

www tek no/artikler/test-htc-one-m9/185102

kekePower
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
Can you explain the review please Google Translate suck's what are they saying about battery life
[One (M9) General] vRS Carl:
This review seems to have a favourable view of the M9

http://www.stuff.tv/htc/one-m9/review

Another here which isn't as bad as what people are making out. 12hrs demanding use is for my needs very good as i rarely play games. At the end of the day this phone has MORE power in the CPU/GPU than the M8. Yet returns the same battery life. I don't see the problem :confused:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/htc-o...-quality-and-verdict-page-6#tr-review-summary
[One (M9) General] gavinfabl:
The only review worth reading is your own after you have used it for a good few weeks. Each of your own views will differ. It will differ because of your apps and background services. The reviewers tend not to load their own apps on to the review devices.

My real life setup consists of anywhere from 160 apps to 190 apps (includes games in this figure), so naturally my battery stats will be different to yours.

Now to the M9. It is not a bad phone at all. It is a spec bump and design tweak from the M8. Nothing wrong with this. Just look at Apple and its "S" second year phones. Reviewers slated the iPhone 5S when it came out and yet it still sold like hotcakes.

The Samsung Galaxy S6 has only come about because of the lacklustre S5, made of plastic. Personally, I think the standard S6 is dull, but the S6 Edge is gorgeous.

The M9 camera. We all moaned about 4mp Ultrapixels. TBH I got some pretty awesome photos from the M8, and M7 previously. I have used the M9 too. The photos again are good, maybe not the best smartphone camera but still good. And lets be honest, after you have applied a filter and shared to social media, nobody pixel peeps. Nobody in real life cares. I have taken photos with a crap 3MP camera on a phone and got rave reviews. Just some clever filters used. Low light. Get a DSLR with a 1 inch sensor and then you can take some proper low light shots. Otherwise, whilst some are better than others, they are still poor.

Heat. Not had an issue yet with heat or performance. The M9 is nuts fast.

It really boils down to this. What finish do you prefer?
[One (M9) General] combat goofwing:
HTC One M9 Review (60-Second Edition): https://youtu.be/YP58efPv_WY

Pocket now 60.second review
[One (M9) General] kekePower_:
Nothing special about the battery is mentioned in the article, but the they give the battery a score of 8/10.

kekePower
[One (M9) General] th3:
AnandTech slammed the phone.

And wait for their part 2... They'll slam it even more. You'll hear their reasons.

If it wasn't that obvious already. None of AT are happy with the M9, not one bit.

I'd love to see M8 and M9 camera's compared here: http://m.gsmarena.com/shootout_galaxy_s6_note_4_galaxy_s5_iphone_6-review-1229p3.php

S6 does absolutely excellent.

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[One (M9) General] th3:
Quoting my old post

A few more reviews missed here (dpreview has a review coming, can't wait!):

http://www.pcwelt.de/produkte/Smartphone-HTC-One-M9-im-Test-9600543.html

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/...-review-new-smartphone-flagship-2015-uk-best/

http://www.dinside.no/933255/htc-one-m9

And these are the latest reviews...

M8 vs M9: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-One-M9-vs-HTC-One-M8_id3960

Note 4 vs M9: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-One-M9-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4_id3963

iP6 vs M9: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-One-M9-vs-Apple-iPhone-6_id3957

I'm seeing a LARGE variance in display and camera results between reviews. Sadly, that suggests HTC looks to have major quality control problems with the M9 :(
[One (M9) General] TwistyValhalla:
It's interesting that even with all the negativity, most reviewers are still giving the M9 a very good score (~80%). Something else worth noting is that for regular day-to-day usage (multitasking, gaming etc. - anything but benchmarking), M9 performance seems to pass with flying colors and I don't see reviewers complaining about the phone heating up much either. Yes, there might be throttling in some cases but seems like the impact of that is only limited to lower than expected benchmark numbers in certain cases.
[One (M9) General] davidtm0:
OR

, that there are too many variables to adequately control among all of these reviews
[One (M9) General] th3:
That would be the case if it at least consistently followed one trend in one metric (like display luminance). And so it would best the phone it's meant to replace, a year after.

But it's sometimes losing pretty badly in display/camera metrics, less at other times and slightly winning at other times. That doesn't happen with normal and consistent products with less variations. M7 vs M8 or iP5 vs iP6 or S5 vs S6, for example.

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[One (M9) General] malek777:
I feel like this phone was rushed. Nothing impressive across the board. The m9 is a good example of why not to upgrade. Hopefully the m9 plus is a better option.
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Yep better wait for April 8th to see if the M9+ or e9 or both will be revealed.
[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
They are announcing in China. I would think if there is interest in the phone they would try to release it world wide. I've always liked htc phones but their business decisions have always left me scratching my head.
[One (M9) General] th3:
Top design and engineering.

Fail management.

A la, AMD/ATI [emoji20]

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[One (M9) General] tmac31:
nope its underclocked too. 1.6 ghz is max frequency so it runs cooler. and ofc its fast 1.6ghz a57 cores still faster than old krait cores. but m8 is almost as fast as m9 its the problem. and 80 isnt realy a good score m8 was getting around 90 if im not wrong.
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
The biggest French review is out: http://www.phonandroid.com/test-htc-one-m9.html

As expected they didn't like the camera and battery but liked the screen though
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
if the rumors about the m9 plus are true, i think that it might be a better solution. 21mp camera, bigger battery, different CPU which blows the 810 out of the water, and higher res screen
[One (M9) General] Adam182:
Hmm, i'm not so sure - Adam
[One (M9) General] th3:
I'm waiting on that... As HTC knows they need at least one top solution for financial survival. This year is already looking very difficult for them.

I'm hoping everything latest and greatest within HTCs design and engineering department will be put into that Plus... So that it smacks the iP6s/Z4/G4/Note 5 around the park. Because I'll gladly jump to it, if so.

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[One (M9) General] vRS Carl:
Well i have received an email stating mine will be delivered tomorrow :)
[One (M9) General] Adam182:
From where?.... I hope we do get them sooner than 31st.

Lucky to be an american right now with them releasing tonight and at a great price - Adam
[One (M9) General] vRS Carl:
Carphone Warehouse in the UK
[One (M9) General] th3:
Wt?

27th direct from HTC, 10th US, 17th April in CAN

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