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[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
Ha ha. Phone first pretty please :)

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In my opinion HTCs camera soft is really good and I hope that you still can save profiles. The Toshiba hardware is an unknown, is there any other mature phones with the same hardware in? It's a new unit so a more mature firmware in combination with a updated HTC camera should hopefully make this a good camera phone. As with previous Ones I hope there still is focus on shutterspeed because being able to point n click my moving kids is what I normally do.

You can do that with M7/8 and iPhone but not as good with phones like Note 4 like the one I'm writing on right now. A ok but speedy cam and the Ones body, sound and hopefully optimal software is a killer for me at least. I'd loved to have have ois because it do really work wonders when needed.

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[One (M9) General] Sachinfan:
I think people tend to overrate the camera on a mobile phone seriously.......The camera on a mobile is not supposed to replace those DSLRs.....but to supplement them as you cannot carry DSLRs everywhere.

Secondly, you cannot reject a phone purely on camera unless its very essential for your daily life. Once the excitement dies down, how many pics we take?

I don't think HTC would be going all the way from UP camera to a 20mp camera and do a botch job............yes it may not be as good as iphone or s6.......but it would be still fine for daily usage.

Lastly, I think some of these judgements on heating and camera are based on pre-release units and software and we can only judge M9 once it is released.
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
The best camera is the one handy. I don't own any other camera than my smartphone and a Sony lens

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[One (M9) General] grrrr_unt:
I agree with the posts above. I realised that we all sound like we want and expect the One M9 to be a perfect phone. But perfection doesn't come by easily, especially when it comes to phones, there's usually a tradeoff. For me, a beautiful design, a fast-enough processor, an extremely responsive UI, along with an acceptable camera is all I ask for. For those reasons, I am satisfied with what the M9 has to offer right now, and I am pretty sure I will buy the M9 when it releases in my country.

Eventually, I feel, the best criteria when we decide on a phone we want to buy, is our own criteria.
[One (M9) General] entropism:
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but I disagree completely. I don't need nor want a DSLR, but I expect my cell phone to take pictures well enough that I don't have to worry about graininess or noise in the pictures.

As for how many pictures we take with our phones? Well, I take more than a few, and having a good camera is certainly an important part of my choosing a phone.

As for HTC botching the camera decision, why not? It wouldn't be the first bad decision they made re: the design/construction of the phone. It SEEMS they screwed up in choosing the screen as well, but I'll reserve my judgement until the final software is released.

The sad thing is, I don't WANT to buy an S6, I really dislike Samsung. Unfortunately, the S6 seems to be the closest phone that meets my ideals. (Camera, wireless charging, not a phablet).
[One (M9) General] Corduroy-21:
I understand your concerns but I don't think any of the flagships take pictures that are not good enough for normal use. And by normal I mean social media and watching photos on PC screens. That's what most people do, including me.

If the camera is your main factor for deciding maybe you should get the S6, the reviews say that the camera is very good in almost all conditions except low-light. Each person has its own priorities. In my case I don't like the way the Samsungs look (don't get all the hype about the changes in S6, it still looks bland), I detest Touchwiz and judging by the first reviews battery life is worse than S5.

So I'm waiting for the M9 reviews in order to see if the camera is good (I just need good, not perfect), if there are any issues (like heating) and if nothing bad is said it may be my next phone. Not because it's perfect, but because I can't see anything else that makes me want to buy it. The last Nexus is huge and I don't except much from LG.
[One (M9) General] th3:
I think is just your opinion tho. Many others have a different opinion. Both of you have a right to your opinions, neither being right or wrong.

People pay silly money for high-end goods and they have the full right to demand the best and demand improvements.

It's been proven good in everything including low light. Any review showing what you just said?

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[One (M9) General] th3:
21/03 front facing camera:

HTC One M9 Video Test Frontkamera: https://youtu.be/TM62ugujCGk

I think it's pretty good.

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[One (M9) General] badboy47:
Its looking good in bright light but i would like to see some footage in low light :).
[One (M9) General] grrrr_unt:
Here's a low light video i found: it isn't looking good at all..

https://youtu.be/0y-VhqHDEUQ
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
Looks like it's using spot and constantly adjusting. I'm curious about final software and real comparisons in the future.

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[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
http://udn.com/news/story/7098/780330-上市版HTC-One-(M9)再體驗-熱度不影響使用

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Latest firmware

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[One (M9) General] rkial:
Is the review saying the S810 is 28nm?

I tried google translate but didnt understand most of it.
[One (M9) General] Corduroy-21:
Thank you for reminding me that my opinion is just my opinion. Who would have guessed?

About S6 camera:

Mobilesyrup test vs iPhone
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
Yes I think so, I thought it was 20? Haven't checked it really, I was more interested in if there was any obvious changes

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[One (M9) General] th3:
That review is showing a poor low light camera... Both video and picture :/

Constant phase, metering and stabilization adjustment is making the night video very poor.

As everyone was fearing.

And the SoC scores are showing that it's been underclocked... Presumably to control the heating.

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[One (M9) General] grrrr_unt:
On another thread, we collated some feedback abt M9 camera.

1. M9 seems to make blue colours look purple. It all seems seems narrowed to muted green/yellow tint.

2. Green is very much under-saturated. Affects nature shots.

3. In daylight shots with a dark object against the bright backgr, M9 tends to brighten the photo AND wash out the background. Loses detail in highlights, interpreting it as a single bright grey blotch.

4. No OIS makes videos shaky. EIS should be improved.

5. Night shots make details grainy and oil-painting-ish (alot of noise).

I have just contacted HTC to tell them abt the above problems. I hope they take into account the feedback and improve camera performance in a future software patch
[One (M9) General] th3:
Reminders are good when an individual seems to suggest only their opinion is correct.

You picked the worst review of the S6 low-light out of 20 odd.

Even then, what you claimed turned out incorrect and very selective. IP6+ has the best all-round flagship camera out there, and here's what that site (unheard of site) said about S6 vs IP6+. Quoting from your chosen review: http://mobilesyrup.com/2015/03/20/samsung-galaxy-s6-vs-iphone-6-plus-camera-shootout/

M8 had far worse low-light pictures than that in auto. But most of those issues are easily tamed using Manual, as that reviewer tends to realize.

So no, nowhere does it suggest that it has a bad low-light camera, rather a very good one even for low-light. But it's the Achilles Heal of the S6 camera and its not perfect. That's obvious.

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I warned of a lot of this a month back with their move from UP and a crappier, slower lens :/

But is what you said with the final firmware?

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[One (M9) General] grrrr_unt:
[MENTION=2496746]th3[/MENTION]: Yup, all I said was based on photos taken with the final firmware, the one that held back the Taiwan release date.

I think the Toshiba T4KA7 sensor has a part to play too, but I'm not very sure how. It was marketed as " providing excellent color reproduction through its primary color filter for small and simple camera system. So it is fit to use as an image input device for phone cameras"
[One (M9) General] th3:
Those are some major issues... Let's wait for more reviews though.

The M9 lens and metering is pretty slow compared to the M8, and with no phase detection and OIS. All this was handled by HTCs ImageChip before. Then you may have whitebalance problems, but this is a software fix.

Same with colour reproduction and sharpness... but in general, the noise and low-light problems, they're mostly attributed to the lens+sensor limitations.

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[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
I am happy Peter Chou was replaced, all his camera choices were bad, 4MP for 2 years (great for closup only) and now this untested 20mp without imagechip.

I think Toshiba is a big liar, this camera module looks like a 8mp but over-resized to 20mp, when you see the photos at 100% 20mp they are like oil paint but when resized to 8mp and less they look very good...

Sony Z1,Z2 and Z3 are not better, their superior 8mp mode is also way better than the 20mp.
[One (M9) General] Corduroy-21:
My post began with "I don't think", so that means it's my opinion, not a universal truth.

Instead of trying to be smart and failing miserably, maybe you should just improve your reading ability.

You wanted me to quote the review and I did it. I don't know if it's the worst or the best. The fact that you don't like it doesn't mean anything to me.

I didn't mention the M8 anywhere in my post. Irrelevant.

Again misquoting me. I hope it's a bad memory thing and not done on purpose (judging from you continuous behaviour though I suppose it's the second).

I said: "If the camera is your main factor for deciding maybe you should get the S6, the reviews say that the camera is very good in almost all conditions except low-light. "

So I believe that it has a very good camera in all conditions except low-light. I didn't say it was bad.
[One (M9) General] Adam182:
From what I've seen, with a slight exposure/saturation tweak the M9 cam will go toe to toe with the S6 cam - Adam
[One (M9) General] badboy47:
Oh wow that's bad ;(. Thanks for sharing and I hope that's not running in the latest final software.
[One (M9) General] th3:
That's because their's is a fully tested and perfected hardware method from their pro camera line-ups (Exmor).

I didn't see any details of HTC having such method available, and absolutely no software mashing can increase IQ better than native.

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Nevermind. You're a waste of time.

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[One (M9) General] grrrr_unt:
I agree, at least for daylight shots.
[One (M9) General] rkial:
I havent used the S6.. but the Note 4s camera was absolutely fantastic.. and the S6 will be at least that good..

So I don't really expect the M9 to be THAT good.. and I have no problem with it not being the best. Its always nice to have the best, but I am not that into photography.. certainly not Mobile photography..

As long as it is serviceable .. and can take decent photos, I will be happy.

I'm not going to zoom into a tree 50 mts away and look at the leaves and complain about over sharpening.
[One (M9) General] th3:
The idea about too much compression/sharpness seems good. The pics that M.E. guy has posted, IMG38 shows:

Model - HTC One M9
Orientation - Top left
Software - 3.10.49-g51f1ff1
YCbCrPositioning - Centered
ExifOffset - 212
ExposureTime - 1/1410 seconds
FNumber - 2.20
ExposureProgram - Not defined
ISOSpeedRatings - 50
ExifVersion - 0220
CompressedBitsPerPixel - 4.00 (bits/pixel)
ShutterSpeedValue - 1/1410 seconds
ApertureValue - F 2.20
BrightnessValue - 8.76
ExposureBiasValue - 0.00
MeteringMode - Average
LightSource - Auto
Flash - Not fired
FocalLength - 4.73 mm
SubsecTime -
SubsecTimeOriginal - 595
SubsecTimeDigitized -
FlashPixVersion - 0100
ColorSpace - sRGB
ExifImageWidth - 5376
ExifImageHeight - 3752
InteroperabilityOffset - 3424
SensingMethod - Not defined
SceneType - Other
CustomRendered - Normal process
ExposureMode - Auto
White Balance - Auto
DigitalZoomRatio - 0.00/0.00 x
FocalLengthIn35mmFilm - 5 mm
SceneCaptureType - Standard
GainControl - None
Contrast - Normal
Saturation - Normal
Sharpness - Hard

Compression - 6 (JPG)
JPEG Compression - 95

My M8 daylight shot shows:

Model - HTC One_M8
Orientation - Top left
Software - 3.4.0-g222defb
YCbCrPositioning - Centered
ExifOffset - 210
ExposureTime - 1/207 seconds
FNumber - 2.00
ExposureProgram - Normal program
ISOSpeedRatings - 100
ExifVersion - 0220
CompressedBitsPerPixel - 4.00 (bits/pixel)
ShutterSpeedValue - 1/207 seconds
ApertureValue - F 2.00
BrightnessValue - 4.69
ExposureBiasValue - 0.00
MaxApertureValue - F 2.00
MeteringMode - Other
LightSource - Auto
Flash - Flash not fired, auto mode
FocalLength - 3.82 mm
SubsecTimeOriginal - 280
FlashPixVersion - 0100
ColorSpace - sRGB
ExifImageWidth - 1520
ExifImageHeight - 2688
InteroperabilityOffset - 5904
CustomRendered - Normal process
ExposureMode - Auto
White Balance - Auto
DigitalZoomRatio - 0.00/0.00 x
FocalLengthIn35mmFilm - 0 mm
SceneCaptureType - Standard
GainControl - None
Contrast - Normal
Saturation - Normal
Sharpness - Soft

Compression - 6 (JPG)
JPEG Compression - 95

Also, we need someone to test manual.

I can get way better pictures with M8 manual than auto. Even manual focus helps in certain situations (focus detail, and controlling blown highlights and shadows).

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[One (M9) General] Slusho:
I thought I saw something saying the review embargo would lift today, but now I can't find it. Anyone know what's up?
[One (M9) General] th3:
23rd ;)
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Oh man!

Can't wait for GSMArena,gizmodo,BGR,Cnet...specially direct comparison between cameras and screen of M9 vs Note4,G3,Z3...
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
Is this coming from a credible source don't get us too excited for no reason now lol
[One (M9) General] th3:
Nahh just to get you to F5 a gazillion times tonight [emoji16]

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[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
Lol I'll take it.
[One (M9) General] herwegan:
german review: http://www.computerbase.de/2015-03/htc-one-m9-test/
[One (M9) General] ryanjsoo:
Phonearena review is up!
[One (M9) General] Rage1ofakind:
Got 3 reviews up on here as well :) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=59622233
[One (M9) General] XxKINGxX2580:
TechnoBuffalo review - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pzYAbo80fQ&ab_channel=TechnoBuffalo
[One (M9) General] Kage Yume:
Gsmarena's review is up.

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_m9-review-1230p5.php
[One (M9) General] th3:
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/102040/htc-verhelpt-hitteprobleem-one-m9-met.html

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9102/the-htc-one-m9-review-part-1

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/22/8272727/htc-one-m9-review

http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/22/htc-one-m9-review/

http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-one-m9-review

http://gizmodo.com/htc-one-m9-review-a-great-phone-that-cant-keep-up-1692880041

http://bgr.com/2015/03/22/htc-one-m9-review/

http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/5978/htc-one-m9-review-bekend-gezicht

http://www.nu.nl/reviews/4013426/review-htc-one-m9-teleurstelling-in-mooi-jasje.html

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-One-M9-Review_id3956

http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/133290-htc-one-m9-review-distracted-by-refinement

http://www.zdnet.com/article/htc-on...al-tone-design-with-focus-on-personalization/

http://www.slashgear.com/htc-one-m9-review-counting-on-quality-22374718/

http://www.trustedreviews.com/htc-one-m9-review

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[One (M9) General] XxKINGxX2580:
PhoneArena https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaTSow2WUz4&ab_channel=PhoneArena
[One (M9) General] pdubcramp:
Rough day for HTC. Yikes
[One (M9) General] th3:
This is just........ sigh

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[One (M9) General] XxKINGxX2580:
Lots of HTC One M9 reviews came out tonight. Still waiting on MKBHD's review.
[One (M9) General] rkial:
Yeah.. Ball dropped here by HTC. Hope they get their next flagship right. They were building up a good userbase and they mess it up big time..

Not entirely their fault. The S810 hasnt helped...
[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
Dude 6 posts huh.

My guess you're Applesexual trolling under a different name.
[One (M9) General] XxKINGxX2580:
PocketNow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npr1846DRqo&ab_channel=Pocketnow

Christ, the phone's getting pretty disappointing reviews.
[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
Yeah I think we know why Chou was demoted. This is looking to be a bit of a disaster for htc.

The thing that is killing them is almost all reviews are panning the battery life.
[One (M9) General] XxKINGxX2580:
And the camera
[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
Well most are saying it's better then the m8. To hear that battery life is worse than the m8 is just insane.
[One (M9) General] ryanjsoo:
Looks like HTC has made a fine smartphone let down by an unrefined chipset and only exacerbated by their own poor sales of late. Now this is all speculation but looking at Anandtech`s review, HTC had to cut some corners due to budget restrictions, ie plastic front, no OIS, display quality, which is really disappointing as I`m a huge HTC fan and my M8 has been absolutely flawless apart from the camera which is just good not great (and I`d take OIS over duo any day).

Also this seems kinda reflective of my experience with my One X+ which was a great phone, but at the time of release, sense was no where near as refined as it is now and the tegra 3 chip was plagued with problems, ie poor batterylife, heat, etc, all a result of it`s older manufacturing process. However come sense 5, HTC really straightened the handset out, much faster ui than sense 4, flatter, more intuitive, no heat problems and the batterylife was improved by a great deal, say 20-30% if not more. So it`s not the end of the road for HTC, and software can make a great deal of difference, not to mention, Qualcomm might release some magical drivers to fix all these issues, much like what happened way back in the Adreno 220 days.

To sum this up, the M9 might not look so mighty now, but the hardware is all there, and HTC obviously hasn`t optimised their software to its full capability and as such, the final final device may be much improved over even the review samples seen now. That being said I`m really content with my M8 as I don`t want to have to deal with these issues and the stress of wondering whether it really will get better or not, though its still a solid device and this is just my personal opinion ;).
[One (M9) General] SPreston2001:
Sigh man im really disappointed with HTC right now. It seems as if the M9 fell flat on its face this year. How is a larger battery with the same size display getting worse performance?? The 810 is only slightly better than the 801 according to benchmarks, the camera is slightly more detailed, and the phone has a extra gig of ram. That's it! Smh I can't believe my favorite phone manufacturer has become complacent.
[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
Yes insane as in not good.

Applesexual waiting till you are banned again.
[One (M9) General] SPreston2001:
Well it is HTCs fault. Qualcomm didn't force them to use the processor and that's honestly not even my biggest gripe. The 810 is better than the 801 so that's all that really matters but when the phone fails to deliver on many other aspects, it just doesn't stack up against this year's competition. It's almost like the M9 is already dated before it even came out...
[One (M9) General] th3:
Battery, camera, throttling, thermals, screen, size/usage... Ok.

I warned all of this looks like a regression from the M8 1-2 weeks back when the fanatics were creating unsubstantiated hype, ignoring science facts, in the HTC Megathread. Even then they flamed me.

But I never expected the video 1080p nor the loudspeakers to be as bad of a regression as the major reviewers are saying! Nerfed bass and quieter volume. The 1080p is being shown as frankly terrible. This is hurting me :/

They've done a lot worse than even I was warning. Reviewers are advising M8 over M9. That's...

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[One (M9) General] hung2900:
Android OEMs stopped cheating at the beginning of 2014, except... HTC.

http://anandtech.com/show/9102/the-htc-one-m9-review-part-1/4

For those that are unfamiliar with how HTC's CPU cheats work, HTC continues to rely on some level of benchmark detection, and it seems that when a benchmark is detected it enables a "High Performance" mode in the developer settings with no option to disable this mode. It's possible to work around this mode by using benchmarks that evade such detection mechanisms (and we do), but it's also possible manually toggle this mode on and off if a benchmark isn't detected. This benchmark mode appears to relax throttling constraints, but more obviously it enables one to go from a maximum of 1.6 GHz to the rated 2.0 GHz of the Snapdragon 810 for extended periods of time. However, even in this mode we can see that a sustained load of a single thread on the A57 cluster will cause the cluster to throttle to 1.7 GHz in this mode, while without this mode enabled we see that a single thread will eventually cause the A57 cluster to clock around 1 to 1.2 GHz. If the normal governor does allow the SoC to reach 1.9 GHz, I can't really perceive the amount of time that it does reach such a speed.

Cheating but performance still low, battery life also. Facepalm!

I don't know whether it bothers you or not. The M8 was still one of the fastest phone at its time, so I thought a little bit cheating wouldn't bother me. But just because multimedia didn't pay attention to and reveal, bash it heavily, HTC decided to keep the same thing happening? They underestimate customers so much!
[One (M9) General] th3:
I think they've just ended up making the wrong decisions, completely.

Something somewhere has gone badly wrong. Too many poor choices here. After the M7 and M8, they've destroyed all that hard work, the image and the name.

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[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
Sorry wrong quote

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You've been reported. Stop trolling dude seriously.
[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
You know that you're Applesexual. It's just pathetic. What motivates guys like you? Are you being paid or just mentally ill?
[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
Whatever bro. You have like 12 posts. All the same nature as before. You mention a post on the edge forums that was mine you directly responded to as Applesexual before this profile was created.

Mods will decide but you've basically ruined these forums.
[One (M9) General] rohit25:
It's seems like the HTC is gonna have a rough Q2 and Q3 ... The chip sucks and has overheating Qualcomm lied to us.... Gsmarena states the same.... Camera sucks and battery life is okay....
[One (M9) General] i9100g user:
HTC M9 Reviews:

Anandtech

Gizmodo

Engadget

Techno buffalo

Verge

BGR

GSM Arena

Phone Arena

Stuff.TV

ZDNet

Mobile syrup

Trusted Reviews

Tech Spot

Slash Gear

Pocket now

Pocket Lint

Android central