yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Topics] Tuningszocske:
Thanks! I will try! I think you mean profiles "can't" turn off and on wifi and bluetooth instead of "can". If yes, I agree, if not please tell me how!

Another thing I played with:

One of my favourite application was Opera Mini on my previous PDAphone (QTEK9000). I loved it with all its capabilities and graphical look. But it is changed with this new hardware. We have a new java midlet application manager (Jeode, Esmertec) which handles fonts in a different way like we use with Intent midlet manager. So when You use Opera Mini with our new Esmertec, you can realize, that if you set font size to small texts are almost unreadably small, when you increase just one! size (medium) those will be very huge.

Unfortunately there is not any .ini file or registry settings with both of Esmertec Java midlet manager or Opera Mini, therefore after more hours experience I found one way I am satisfied with: I duplicated my favourite font on PDAs (Thorndale AMT) and renamed to "tahoma.ttf" and "tahomabd.ttf" and I created another duplicate with the name "cour.ttf" and I overwrited with RescoExplorer in those three fonts in the Windows directory, so every font in the system will be Thorndale AMT. (I don't know if it does matter, but I had Thorndale in the /Windows/Fonts dir also) So, after this Esmertec (with Opera Mini) had a more useable text reading with the medium font size setting, but be careful, all applications which are using the system default font may be with different look. (For example texts of iGO - I don't bother it changed, I like it)

If You want to use this method I did, I highly recommended to backup your original fonts.

Another problem with OperaMini is the "screen-handling". It doesn't handle the touchscreen operations with the Flame (screen-dragging or dragging the scrollbars) just page-turning with the scrollbar. If anybody knows a solution it is welcome, I couldn't have a good way working it.

Flame can have a different screen handling operation than other PDAs, because with all applications It is working with problems which using screen-handling.

...

Another thing I noticed. I used Vito AudioNotes before also, I like it. With my previous PDAs it worked when I wanted to record a phonecall, but recorded just the sound of microphone (what I said) without the speaker (the other half), but with Flame it records just the speaker's sound without the mic's sound, which is a bit better, but it would be more better if it can record both.

So, it seems Flame has different hardware addresses than other PDAs.

I have more hard experience with O2 XDA Flame if somebody needs some information, but I don't want to write pages, if nobody cares.
[General Topics] JamesManios:
Tuningszocske: Actually I did mean 'can'. Right now I have SPB PhoneSuite running with 2 profiles, (home and work) based on time. Home has wifi on and Work has wifi off. Also long as I have wifi turned on prior to them running they are able to control the individual states afterwards. I got this idea actually from the SPB forum for PhoneSuite where they talk about the fact that on some devices you have to turn of radios ON first before the app is able to control them. Give it a try, install a profiler, reset, turn them on, have the profile switch a profile and you should see it work. I believe I tested it with PhoneAlarm, (but am not positive), but I know its working with PhoneSuite v1.1

When you say Opera Mini do you mean Opera Mini or Opera Mobile. Mini is (I thought) for smartphone and Mobile was meant for PDA? I haven't installed either yet am hoping v9 gets released soon before I do.

General Question: Has anyone gotten the Flame to play nice with a bluetooth carkit? I installed VC1.6 to get voice dialing going and when I start a voicedial from the Bluetooth carkit the speakers gets TONES of feedback, to the point of being unusable (currently anyways). I am wondering about the SRS, and db on the headphone, or some of the attenuation registries, but not sure what to try just yet and hoping someone has looked into it/had the same problems.
[General Topics] keeekeee:
I tried to set

HKLM\Software\Microsft\Bluetooth\sys\DisableAutoSu by default is set to 1. I've set it to 0. then my flame working fine with my bluetooth headset BUT battery drain very very very fast. 12% for an hour. half day battery dead.

dun know why yesterday whole day working fine but today cannot connect again sometimes. dun know what went wrong. Flame really driving me crazy. Perhaps i shd let go Flame and get the Atom Life :(

so the following file will help? anyone try yet? will try ... hopefully the wm6 rom come out will solve all the problem and have better battery life. "praying"

MortScript-4.0-PPC.cab

BlueToothWifi.mortrun.txt
[General Topics] keeekeee:
what shd i edit to make it ONLY turn bluetooth on? I don't wanna turn the WiFi on. Thanks JamesManios for sharing. hopefully it works. just downloaded. now going to try it. thanks again
[General Topics] thierryb:
I have the same problems than yours concerning opera mini and Audio Recorder. In addition with audio recorder I hear nothing when I use a bluetooth headset; probably the same behavior as others with Voice Command.

I can also confirm the behavior of SPB phone Suite. Except the fact that you have to activate wifi with Comm Manager the first time after a soft reset, after the profiles are well managed. In fact, Comm Manager have the priority, if you have used it to be in flight mode, SPB phone Suite can't deactivate flight mode.

Why they do not want to open a subforum ? Crazy situation!
[General Topics] igalan:
I found that Spb Phone Suite did work fine here, I don't think I turned the radios on manually before Spb Phone Suite did... But I removed it because it didn't do what I wanted. I've also tried SBSH PhoneWeaver; this one did exactly what I needed (keep the PDA on while on car profile), but unfortunately every time that I pressed the on button it would start the wifi radio as well :( . So I've unistalled it as well. I someone else knows a program that can do that...
[General Topics] thierryb:
You are right. Spb Phone Suite do not allow to manage power. Could be usefull. I will ask them.
[General Topics] p.loong:
Windows Lives

Have anyone try Windows Lives on Flame
[General Topics] JamesManios:
MouseClick("Wireless Management",95,266) -> this is the bluetooth coordinates

MouseClick("Wireless Management",95,367) -> this is wifi

so yours would look something like this

Sleep(30000)

Run("\Windows\WirelessDPM.exe")

WaitForActive("Wireless Management",60)

Sleep(5000)

MouseClick("Wireless Management",95,266)

Sleep(10000)

Minimize("Wireless Management")
[General Topics] JamesManios:
For people with Bluetooth VoiceDialing working, please help:

What VoiceDialing app are you using, which version, (ie: VC 1.6, Cyberon Speed Dial 1.1, 1.2, etc..)

Also, what values do you have in...

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\BTAGExtModule

VoiceDialing is STILL not working for me. VC1.6 will initiate from the carkit but with the feedback. When using Cyberon the carkit will launch the phone and NOT the app even though I have

HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand\Path = "\Windows\SDDialer.exe"

set.

This is the one hurtle left right now.

Anyone Overclocking yet: If yes, are you using PocketHackMaster. What L,M,N values are working best for you?
[General Topics] Tuningszocske:
Hm.... Thankx for the infos about the profilers, I will try.

When I say Opera Mini, it is Opera Mini, not Opera Mobile. There are two working Opera browser for Pocket PCs.

First: Opera Mini is a java midlet, which is one of the best browser I've ever tried. (It resizes webpages for mobile phones by 10% of the original page. It reorganizes the whole page without frames, flash videos, advertisements... Just give it a try if You've not tested yet. It is the best browser to read the news or anything without loading complicated webpage structures)

Second: Opera Mobile is a standalone webbrowser application, but I'm sure You know it as I heard from Your words. Opera Mobile is the best if You want to use the more complicated web surfaces.

What is v9?

I haven't tested any bluetooth device just my GPS.
[General Topics] jags1:
i have no problems using bluetooth,i used blue-ant x3 micro, it doesn't disconnect or drops call or anything like that,works normal,will try carkit and speed dial and see how it goes.

i asked o2 question about rom versions why we having different numbers? below is their answer:

Dear Jag,

Thank you for contacting O2 Asia Technical Support.

With regards to the query that you have stated below, please be advised that the Xda Flame is released with the WWE RC1070309. As long as the ROM versions match then the minor differences maybe due to the batch of shipment date when the devices were released.

Thank you.

so thats what i thought from the start that actual rom is only one and everyone has the same rom,o2 have not made any upgrade to actual rom yet,rest of the radio verions etc looks a bit different ,why? thats what o2 replied above about.
[General Topics] leochan2005:
Any one knows how to make the device turn on by pressing any button. currently I can only use the power on/off botton. Just not good enough
[General Topics] jags1:
ye i want that too :D but you will have to play with registry for that thing,will let you know if i come up with somefin.
[General Topics] JamesManios:
I had asked O2 about the roms and WM6 and got the following

"You may wish to be advised that O2 has recently released the Windows Mobile 6 upgrade for Xda Atom Life and Xda Zinc users. Aside from that, O2 Asia currently has no plans of providing WM6 for current models including XDA Flame. You may wish to refer time and again in the near future to www.seeo2.com for further information on the devices with Windows Mobile 6.

Also, please note that the Xda Flame is released with the WWE RC1070309. As long as the ROM versions match then the minor differences maybe due to the batch of shipment date when the devices were released."

I'm worried that now that O2 is getting the iPhone deal they may turn their back s on us poor WM users and never do a Flame update :-(
[General Topics] ThaiM:
I filled the cup.
[General Topics] jags1:
first they said we are testing wm6 on flame,that was just before they released flame and gave ppl impression that ye no worries flame comes out with wm6,if not then soon after they release flame there will be an upgrade for it and yes thats exactly how i was told by "organiser world" a one of the biggest mobile phone/pda etc store in melbourne,they said flame comes with wm6,in worst case when its released it will have wm6 upgrade available on o2 site.

so now looks like O2 cheated with us or as you said turning their back,specially after these comments "they have no plan for flame upgrade in near future"

they should atleast give us an upgrade to a newer wm5 rom,they need to clear lots of bugs,the biggest is battery drainage plus many more.

i am un-certain now after their replies in regards to wm6 or rom upgrade,don't know if i should keep flame or put on ebay and switch back to htc.

any suggestions will be appreciated.
[General Topics] JamesManios:
I am also struggling with this thing, weather to ebay or not. The device is nice but has LOTS of problems, (my devices crashes a lot while in suspend mode), carkit not working, and its SIZE! I really was hoping some update would help, but xda-devs unwillingness to even add it to the forum, little development for the GPU, and now possibly no rom updates, kinda makes it feel like its going to be a turkey. :-(
[General Topics] fr4gm0nk3y:
Froogle brings it up around 1k USD, ouch $$$$$$.
[General Topics] igalan:
Calm down, I would be surprised if O2 releases a new ROM during July or August. I would expect mid September as more realistic. Being the Flame one of the most capable devices around, I don't think O2 will leave us with the current ROM wich is at beta level.
[General Topics] Hagow:
Hey guys and gals,

This is my first post in XDA Dev and I have been following this thread for awhile now. I have the FLAME on order and should receive it by tomorrow. I have couple of questions...

1) I live in Toronto, Ontario Canada and my provider is ROGERS. Rogers run on a GSM 850/1900 mhz band will I have difficulties with reception as the FLAME only have the 1900 band?

2) I also read some bugs in this thread but what is the overall verdict on the FLAME are you guys happy with it? I don't care much for WM6 although it would be nice. The FLAME is like an DELL x50v on steroids and with a phone. I use to own a x50v and loved it but wished it had phone capabilities.

3) How is the phone quality and is the call volume loud? Does the other end hear themshelves talking when put on speakerphone?(currently experiencing this with my ETEN M600+)

4) Just how bad is the battery life? I thought my DELL x50v's battery life was very bad is it worst than that? Will it last if I played 2hrs of video with screen brightness at medium?

I just don't want to be disappointed...
[General Topics] swain69:
Hi Hagow,

1) I live in New Zealand and we have a similiar GSM, I have no problems with reception.

2) I am very happy with the Flame, wish we had an WM6 upgrade though so that bluetooth can get sorted out and push email for hotmail. I've had the Atom before...what a piece of crap.

3) Phone quality is ok, although callers complain that the Flame rings (on their side) for while before I hear it.

4) Battery life is ok, I have it charged it all the time, like I had with my previous Dell.

For me the biggest problem with all my other Pocket PC's and Pocket PC phones was RAM, I always seem to run out of it. Not with the Flame
[General Topics] Tuningszocske:
1)We got the answer

2)I am happy with flame. Everybody wants WM6. But why??? I owned QTEK9000 before the Flame. I tried WM5 and WM6 on it. WM6 is almost the same than WM5 with that new look and icons, and that great dialler application. While we have a very strong hardware (double RAM) now I don't care the look of WM6, I use Wisbar Advance and Wisbar Advance Desktop to create a lot more beautiful look than WM6. (I attached screenshots about my Flame's today-screen with two conditions) About the dialler I don't care again since O2 gave us their O2 Phone Plus which has a smart dialler also.

3) Phone-quality is weaker than any of my previous PDA-phones in sound quality (with any speaker), because the high frequencies are poorer, that's why You can hear harder the consonants, they are not very clear. Speakers have a poor sound quality also, that SRS-effect is almost than nothing useful (I know what is SRS in real, I'm using it in my work, but it is a hanky-panky). I say it as I'm a sound engineer, musician, composer and music producer, so what I know about something surely is sound. :) So, what You can hear from the Flame is not the best from any speakers. Phone-line quality is the best from my previous PDA-phones in my country (Hungary). (I have a lot of PDA-phones) Almost never breaks the line.

4) Battery - here is the worst parameter of Flame. Although it has bigger battery than usual (1620mAh), it can NOT usable for a whole day, just if You don't use it. I usually use it for calling from 1 to 2 hours, some web surfing, some application using, some navigation software, and after 8-9 hours (with a lot of standby condition certainly) it turns off because battery level is less than 5%. My QTEK9000 with the same battery was better. But we have a chance to wait for the usual extended batteries which are normally the double size (in capacity and in dimensions also) of the original battery with a new back cover. Also we have an option to buy a charger for XDA Flame (for example here:

http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=8248

due soon...) with a second battery.

Another opion: we can buy external batteries:

http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=8244 with3600mAh or

http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=8239 with5600mAh

I hope it helped.
[General Topics] JamesManios:
Very similar to my/my posts a couple of posts ago :-)

1} I'm also in Toronto on Rogers and the reception is good. Its not quiet as good as other HTC's I have had, but during my testing it has only missed 1 call. Sometimes at work downtown I get 1 or no bars, but if I get a call during those time its still usable so it works well enough.

2} It does have some issues, at least for me, but I am still trying to hammer them out. My Carkit is a huge problem, but my GPS is working totally fine. I only care for WM6 (or Rom updates in general) just in the hopes they fix some of the problems up, (cause this current build has problems)

3} The phone quality is a little quieter then an HTC it seems, but usable, (none of these devices are "great" phones really) but I would say completely acceptable.

4} My battery life is pretty good. I would say by the end of a day its about 60%, and I have the display at 100% and the CPU on performance (524Mhz). I listen to music on the train ride in, watch videos on the train ride back, always have bluetooth on (but not WIFI, it seems to be a massive drainer), so I would say its similar to my Prophet or Magician, maybe a little worse, but as long as you charge nightly you should be fine.

PS: mickesjo is really talented skinner!
[General Topics] swain69:
I don't care much for the aesthetics of wm6, it's more that the bluetooth stack has finally been fixed, and the long awaited HTML email support amongst other niceties. I can't really believe we not getting wm6 ! I would have chosen another device if I had known then.
[General Topics] Hagow:
Thanks for the replies...

JamesManios:

You are the guy that probably bought the Flame so now I actually need to go order mine...hopefully it comes in tomorrow. Where did you buy your Flame?

Anyone used an ETEN M600+ how are the phone quality comepared to that of ETEN?

What you yourate the FLAME out of 10 (10 being the best)?

I am really looking forward to the FLAME and I hope I won't be disappointed.

Thanks again for the replies!

Cheers!
[General Topics] JamesManios:
I bought mine off of expansys.ca they said they had them in stock, (and I feel saver from a store) ... and then in usual expansys fashion, once I ordered it the website said out-of-stock and I had to wait 2 weeks to get it on backorder.

As for rating it, (for myself), I would have to say something like a 5, which I know sounds harsh but consider that its still somewhat new and getting its kinks worked out. Hopefully it will get better.

Downers: Little to no GoForce support (so it struggles to play/do things you know it SHOULD be able to do no problem), possibly little/no ROM updates, terrible carkit support, no built in voice-dialing, (where they would have noticed the terrible carkit support), colossal size though if the size doesn't bug you then it might move the number up to 6-7.
[General Topics] swain69:
Wow...5

I'll give it an 8, bearing in mind my previous device was terrible.
[General Topics] igalan:
The ROM isn't perfect and Bluetooth needs some work, but having 128 MB RAM makes a huge difference with anything else. It reminds me of my old F-S Loox 720 which also had 128 MB RAM and was an incredible device (and VGA, and about the same size). WM 5 and 6 do need the extra RAM if you're a "power user". Specially on Phone Editions, that have less free RAM than pure PocketPC.

About WM 6, well, HTML for emails is only supported for Exchange mail as far as I know. I'm not seeing any HTML on my HTC Touch. But if you want/need it, it's much better to use QMail; anyway QMail it's so much better that I no longer use Messaging.
[General Topics] seraphaxg:
Lol - "A theatre in your packet" - I hope they've put more quality assurance into the device than they have into proof reading the adverts for it
[General Topics] thierryb:
I confirm. except for point 1, I live in France.
[General Topics] thierryb:
My loox 720 already had 10. Just missed a phone. The Flame as apda only have a 11, and 12 adding the phone.

Yes Flame have issues, they are small, and more or less the same as all WM devices.

Yes I would appreciate wm6, or even a hack to install the broadcorm bluetooth stadc (the only point where the loox is better than the flame).
[General Topics] JamesManios:
Performance Setting:

Have you ever noticed that sometimes (usually on a reset) the flame will put itself back onto Automatic for CPU power as opposed to staying on Performance. Is it not on every reset but every once in a while when the device feels a little sluggish, if you check sure enough its back on Auto.

Anyone know where to control that in registry, (so that we can set the registry value on the reset).

I don't really think its going to matter cause I'm probably going to overclock it, (or at least have it clocked to its 524 limit using something like PHM), just more wondering if the issue is consistent with other people.

Speaking of PHM, (I know I've asked before) but is anyone overclocking, getting any good numbers, wanna pass along some L,N,M numbers?
[General Topics] djuri:
what abbout these batteries?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2000mAh-Replacment-Li-ion-Battery-Cell-for-O2-XDA-Flame_W0QQitemZ190130489783QQihZ009QQcategoryZ130788QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=8249
[General Topics] JamesManios:
That ebay one looks very interesting... unfortunately it does not say anywhere that its the original size, (in fact they mention a "Plastic battery carrying pack included" so I think it might be an oversized battery) but if it was stock size that would be very tempting!
[General Topics] djuri:
I've asked the seller for size..I'll post his answer here
[General Topics] Tuningszocske:
Although we dodn't have your answer, I saw this 2000mAh battery on another site, and there was written that it is the origial size. But don't think that a battery which is not originally made with a few % more power will help you. I'm totally sure that if You buy it, you have maximum 5% more the using time.

About the other alternative (2200mAh) it does not worth the money with 35% more capacity, as you have to place the back-cover into a new ugly, plastic look one with bigger size. I had an extended battery like this to my old QTEK9000, but it was double capacity (3300mAh) which worthed that ugly back-cover.
[General Topics] Tuningszocske:
Why don't You all who love this topic give a rate on the above menu?
[General Topics] djuri:
It's original size..I know that it won't have much bigger capacity than original one but I'd like to use it as a spare battery, not to replace original..
[General Topics] keeekeee:
I put my flame into my pocket without any cases. and it hangs which the green light stay on. it happen three times while i take out my phone to make call only realized it. any of u encounter it? I had to soft reset it. Wondering it is overheat? or the button was pressed for too long??

I am really tired of the bluetooth problem and above problem mention.... I am thinking whether i shd give my flame up and get something else. Bought it because the VGA and internal memory .... MAN I wish HTC would come out something like o2 Flame :(
[General Topics] igalan:
I've not had this problem, but it occasionaly freezes when I turn it on and back off very quickly, before it has time to activate backlight.
[General Topics] jags1:
exactly, i got flame because of vga and internal memory,i am thinking to switch back to htc but have to pick something really good i guess.htc omni coming out in couple months,i got my eye on that one.