yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Saber_007:
JJ completely understand your position.

Noobs need to learn how to READ. I can't believe this thread has reached nearly 1000 posts and 90% of it is utter crap. The same questions have sometimes been answered over 5 times.

People need to get it through there head that flashing a rom is not a "Plug and Play" affair. If you don't take the time to understand how to do it properly don't go blaming great cooks like JJ for the rom not working on you Device.

JJ all i can say is i really love your work mate and hope that this sort of noob crap doesn't stop you cooking.

Cheers and Beers

Saber
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jasjamming:
Just a quick update,

had to take some time off this weekend for mothersday (my mrs was a little pissed at me), but rest assure im working on Black 3.5

I have been approached by two Sites to host and moderate the BLACK Project. I am currenly making a decision regarding logistics of it all,

All will be welcome to join, no doubt about that, its just that the forum will be moderated by harsher rules than the ones here to keep things clean and tidy.... e.g. first stupid post will be deleted, second stupid post you will be banned without warning, and all associated IPs blocked etc etc etc.......

Yes I am also sure that my ROMS will start threads here but rest assured that I wont be answering any questions on xda-developers regarding my ROMS.

Sounds harsh, I know, but sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind.

Im sure all the posts also kill the bandwidth of xda-developers as well as their storage space, so I am also keeping that in mind.

This might be spam, but the two sites I am considering are HTC-devs and 4winmobile. (att mods: if you find this last paragraph spam please delete it)

Cheers

JJ
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] fone_fanatic:
thats how xda-dev's should be... anyways, best of luck with whichever site you choose and i'm pretty sure 90% will follow you there.

enjoy and thanks for everything.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Ribbit:
Best wishes and thanks JJ, understandable.

As an aside, there is a pretty huge HOWEVER (not aimed at JJ at all), an observation from what seems like a lifetime involved in such things (from being associated with amongst the first BBS in the World, around 25 years beta testing, etc)!

Newbs need to be positively encouraged, rather than discouraged. Otherwise we can easily get into an 'eating our own young' syndrome. Where we inadvertently kill the very fertile ground that we all thrive on. Plus the enthusiasm of newbs is contagious, and often a delight to behold. ;)

You can see it in such things as games, where people too often say "If you don't like it, go play something else" - and they DO go play something else. In no time at all leaving you with a dying game on your hands.

A way round this is to have sub-forums that have highly restricted posting rights, along with open forums alongside where the newbs can be encouraged to post away and question to their hearts content.

Bear in mind, it's the newbs that are prone to point out that 'The Emperor has no clothes on" and that's something we all need to have available to us.

Hopefully you can all take this in the non-critical and constructive sentiment, it was intended.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] rabdo:
Sounds great JJ, ploughing through 90+ pages has become a chore, I have started just searching for your posts only!

Don't know if it helps, but I have been a member of 4winmobile for some time and they have a good set of moderators and if you moderate your own thread then this would be a great place to go. For those that don't know, they also have the ability to have locked 'sub-forums' which you can use for beta testing, giving only people you choose permission to view the locked thread.

Good luck!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] valinald:
Must say this is one of the posts that has made most sense....

Trying to cull out everyone not able to more or less create their own rom will seriously diminish the user base.. been waiting for ages for HTC to publish their upgrade to wm6 for my TyTN but suddenly thought of googling for alternatives.. ended up here.

Found loads of useful information and got my unit updated and running nicely.. trying to find a solution to minor glitches is a pain though. Search functionality and forum structure can break even the most patient guy and there is way too much semi-useful info out there leading ppl wrong..

part of the problem is the number of posts in each thread.. that is due to the structure of the forum..

bashing noobs is just offending and hardly productive...

whenever you say "search for it.. its in the forum" you could try searching for it yourself first to see just how hard it can be...

if it's all down to elitism and rom-creators patting eachothers back, talking the same lingo etc then fine...

I guess it's every hardcore coders dream to claim theyve made their own Rom.. the difference will be how many people out there that's using it..

it's the new users with the least experience that provide you with a insight in where your instructions go wrong.. or what functionalities they take for granted.. going to ban them for asking questions?

The Rom releases out there doesnt seem to differ all that much from eachother so may just be that users identify Roms with their creators (with much help from the creators themselves of course..)

All I can say is that my next Rom upgrade will come from someone a tad more userfriendly..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jasjamming:
Thats fine... no dramas at all.... enjoy :)

Maybe your telco is more user friendly and provide you all the support you need. :P
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] icemantwilight:
Amen to that.. anything you need to do to keep up the good work please do!

If I may make one suggestion though. Implement a bug tracking system, be it as simple as a form you fill in and post in the forum or something more like what sourceforge has where you need to fill in some intelligent information about hardware/software version, steps to reproduce, additional cabs etc

Hopefully a system like that would force people to check to see if a bug has been reported and any status/fix and provide enough information when they really do find something broken.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jasjamming:
BTW Folks,

BT Issue is now fixed.... :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ndzhai:
Some issues I have found

1, after installation, it cancelled my superCID! I don't have superCID anymore, which I am sure I had before.

2, the battery can only shows 100%, 90%, 80% ..., why can't it show graduate changes?

otherwise, it is a superb system. Thanks for hardwork!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] timbouk:
Hi Jasjam :)

I am just about (next 5 mins) to flash to your 3.0.1 black. Is the bluetooth fix included in a new roms to download? Or do I just need to run problack 3.0.1.exe and get a cab file from somehwere?

Been following MrManxs guide, the upgade to 2.1 olipro went exactly as expected. But the radio flash to 1.41 I had to choose the force option.

Thanks for a great bit of cooking. Once I am running ok I will be donating :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jasjamming:
Black 3.5 will contain updates to the BT issue.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ndzhai:
Jasjamming, please help with my question. Thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] petes:
I really would suggest you read the threads -particularly after JJ's comments about the impact on him of people not searching and posting the same questions over and over again - there's nothing wrong with being new to this, but I really don't think there's any excuse for not searching.

Anyway - Black is an OS only update - won't effect the supercid. None of the roms show battery in anything other than 10% steps - it's been discussed loads of times.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] fun_key:
Wow, this is a great news; we really eagerly await it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chrisjasper:
Strict forum where you get banned for asking stupid or lazy questions? Sounds good to me.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] walshieau:
oi mate honestly..... if you did any research... the OS only upgrade does not touch the Radio... hence you cannot lose your SuperCID!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] 100Tbps:
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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] timbouk:
Great, many thanks for your massive effort!. Look forward to v3.5:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] *MILO*:
Any chance of an Optus Cab JJ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mitchg:
No Cingular Wireless Settings?

I upgraded fine over 2.5, but now have no cingular wireless settings, and can NOT get on wirelessly. Does anyone have the cab that puts the media.net etc wireless profiles back in? Custels "Cingular APPs" cab appears to NOT have it.

thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] austinsnyc:
PLEASE dont start with stupid questions before you use the search button... or take that some place else................... your setting yourself up for some serious flaming boy
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] xphobic:
Since u r also on bb 4 can u check whether you are able to activate bluetooth. Im not able to do so after installing bb? Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Deddiekoel:
Why has Windows Live been removed from the main ROM? And any plans to include it in a ROM variation?

Also, any idea as what the new kernel offers compared to the old one?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] nmonger:
WLM was removed to have a lighter ROM - not everyone uses WLM so it was decided to have it as an additional cab install (the cab was attached to the dload)

Welcome to the forum - btw, the forum has a great search function - you may want to use it next time before you post ;-)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] easycure1974:
Symbol pad not working for me

anyone more than me that can´t get the symbolpad to work ?

Did a hardreset and it works now so forget it
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] austinsnyc:
Because it a huge memory hog and we all dont use it and if you would have read the damn 2nd post there is a cab for it right there!! WOW people no wonder....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bleeding_edge:
sorry if this has been posted allready but

thanks JJ brilliant rom, downloading now
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Deddiekoel:
When I posted the WLM cab was not available (fixed one coming). I thought the topic was on page 3 while it was on page 9, so I missed some of the posts.

I'm gonna upgrade now and wait for the WLM cab...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] venelar:
I'm sure it's something i'm doing wrong or dont have set correctly somewhere, but apps dont seem to be closing with the x button like they were on 2.5
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mordof:
BT

Hello

Please Let Me Know If There Is A Problem With The Bluetooth

My Bt Isnt Getting On?

Please Help
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] .VIBE:
set it yourself buddy,

start>settings>system>task manager :cool:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] *MILO*:
Was just about to post about Bluetooth...... Keep getting the Red x in the Comm Manager page..... :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] austinsnyc:
did you look at the settings of the task manager?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] austinsnyc:
my bluetooth works just fine so maybe its something on your end?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] pienjo:
nice, i upgraded, but my WIFI wont work anymore. I can turn it on, but it cant find any network or connect to it manually.. What should i do?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] darkgemini:
The WIFI buble fix doesn't work JJ, I mean it works but only for the ON button, after that it displays as "Turn On Wifi"
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] austinsnyc:
wifi works for me both on and off... bluetooth works fine... i also ran it through the TAZ tools and took some more things out and have 62MB of program memory :) only issue i have is DanieL exchange 2007 wont sync right since the screen goes blank... I also noticed whn i removed JJ's tweaking app things speed up a little
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] DAFTEK:
Great job JJ. This this is very fast, actually faster then LVSW... The way i can tell is after installing GoodLink it runs just as fast, cant tell a difference like i would on LVSW. My only concern would be the battery issues i had with LVSW.

Here is another Fast MIRROR @ MEDIAFIRE
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] AvinashDhaniraj:
The correct RADIO

Hi - I'm using JJ PRO BLACK 3.0.1 - I currently have RADIO 1.38 - would RADIO 1.40 or 1.41 be better? - & where could I download it from? Please assist me here - MANY THANKS! ....& JJ PLEASE DON'T RETIRE!!!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Midget_1990:
heh, so your posting the kind of thing that makes him want to and then telling him not to....

think people, THINK!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chrisjasper:
Oh come on, there are two whole threads called radio 1.40 and 1.41 with the rom upgrades on the first page.

As for which is best, since you are about to install something that could seriously break your phone you really do NEED to read the threads through. Pay particular attention to those who report better or worse performance dependant upon location rather than Rom version....

Also its generally a good idea not to ask the same question in different threads, and you already asked which radio version in the thread you started asking about battery life.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] LuXx:
The correct radio is lmao
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chrisjasper:
pmsl.

:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Midget_1990:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=306898
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] hiroshi.rio:
My 2 cents...

JJ,

My two cents: controling the QUOTES. Its not necessary quoting all post to answer it. Here, we have pages with few new informations, only big quotes. It makes the thread more and more big. If someone want to answer other post, select the principal part and use for the rest "(...)".

So, I think with this the posts will be small. ;)

Regards.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] rhymer2k:
Jesus Christ!!! its like people dont learn, if u cant read ur not meant 2 be on this website.... i noe i have asked some stupid questions but i have learnt and i think others should too
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] AvinashDhaniraj:
APOLOGIES

Apologies - I only recently joined. I will stick to the rules. Sorry about the unrelevant posting by me with regard to the actual thread content.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] masta7100:
does the supercid and CID unlocked stay on the phone even if I update my Radio or Hard SPL?? thanks much for the help! meaning it doesn't go back to locked status??
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] dsaxman:
PIE crashing?

Anyone else having the issue that you open PIE either through the start menu or through the hardware button, it opens for about 1.5 seconds and then immediately closes?

I'm on an O2 xda trion that's about 15 months old if that makes any difference.

Cheers,

Steve
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] odie3:
FYI -

I too was not able to get Symbols working - that is until I remove [uninstalled/SR] the Transcriber add-on (WM VI Black Transcriber.cab from Black 2.5).

Just in case it applies to anyone else....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] LuXx:
This happens to me every once in awhile. When this happens i clean my cookies and history.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] spastico:
I say Bull, Bull, Bull.

You Bleeding Heart.

Go make this post in the 'Noob Bashing' thread.

I came here with zero knowledge, I

quickly learned what was expected of me, and then Conformed. (except for this off topic post, of course. :-/ )
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] rupture:
Why don't you try reading the wiki?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ZzFDKzZ:
Cool, I was actually going to post if you had a site or some email group where we can keep upto date since I don't visit this forum that often. Can't wait for 3.5. Thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ccezar2004:
BIG ISSUE

3.0.1. does not work with my parrot ck3100 car kit... it connects via BT.... but when a call is mde (in or out) the phone, the car kit and the connection go cray toghether... i went back to dutty v2 and all went smoot...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Prerna:
Fully agree with that. There are various ways of handling such situations.

Example

: Olipro who simply ignores posts that he does not consider appropriate. His threads remain thus short and sweet.

On the other hand, starting polemics worsens the whole thing with 1000s of replies such as mine here...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] .VIBE:
guys, let's keep the above type posts where they belong, not in the tech thread please.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jasjamming:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1261832&postcount=36
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Lurch3559:
JJ we love your ROM's, I as many stand behind your decision, it is just as frustrating for the rest of us having to look through all the needless posts. Keep up the great work, looking forward to your new release wherever it may end up.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] dmr54:
Hey Jas, I've spent a lot of time browsing these forums over the years and I fully understand where you are coming from, for what it is worth I can only say we at 4WinMobile.com (I'm a MOD) would welcome your joining our little spot on the internet, we do try to keep a well moderated site and as Rabdo has mentioned we have various facilities that should go some way to helping achieve what you require, whilst I know I am bias I do truly believe that 4WM is one of the best communities I have been involved with hense why I have stuck around so long, we have little to no flaming posts and always do our best to help people whilst encouraging them to help themselves. But at the end of the day I wish you well in what ever you decide your ROM's are very much appreciated and respected.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] cbrandon:
I have to agree with you. I do not know who most of the guys here think they are. A little bit of common decency is all it takes.. This is not aimed at JJ as I am sure he has his hands full.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ratcom:
4WinMobile.com

I've been a member @ 4WinMobile.com from day 1 and can honestly say Ive always found the site very professional and the forum well ordered. I for one would be pleased if that ended up your home JJ.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] AvinashDhaniraj:
Messenger on the new ROM

Hi guys. I've noticed that once I execute messenger and then use another program, then click on start and messenger again, it starts a "new" messenger asking me to log-in whilst the "old" messenger is still running in the background. It's as if it doesn't know that messenger is active as a program. To use the "original" or "first messenger I executed, I need to go to settings, memory then "activate" windows live for the messenger to run and if hotmail is running at the same time there are 2 windows live programs in the memory page and it's confusing knowing which one to activate at times
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] AvinashDhaniraj:
BLACK 3.0.1 & Bandswitch

Just tested compatibility of Bandswitch with Black 3.0.1 - Bandswitch, which switches between GSM, GPRS, 3G in 1/2 simple clicks works great with BLACK 3.0.1

Bandswitch website: http://commmgrpro.com/_wsn/page3.html
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] rhymer2k:
am not sure but i think this issue has been sorted out earlier.. search this thread
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] rockky:
I still like my forum-contol mechanism:

When clicking Reply..you first get the search box...with the prompt:

''Exhausted your ? here?

Read the whole thread?

If so...and only so..proceed at your own risk'':

then they go to the reply box.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] masta7100:
anyone help me with cingular 8525 and MMS messages?? I can't seem to get settings correct for it or something?? thanks much! Black is really stable and fast!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] smslina:
Before 17 people yell at you for daring to ask a question, I'll just post the link, since it takes roughly the same amount of time as the condescending responses take to write.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1163312&postcount=1
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] spastico:
So now that your done handing someone a fish, I'll do one better.

Click here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=298893&highlight=search

Click: "Search XDA-DEVELOPERS using Google"

Type: "cingular mms" (no quotes)

And walla!

A magic answer appears:

Only 4 results down is the exact thread you linked.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] masta7100:
thanks, I couldn't find that....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] emann30:
In need of

Is it possible to make one for the HTC wizard. I no, I no, this is a Hermes thread and I should take my HTC Wizard ass to a wizard forum, but can someone make a Black Edition for the Wizard.

Thanks,

Senior NOOB:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jasjamming:
donate a wizard and ill port it for u,

otherwise no. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] rockky:
LOL.yours is the sentiment of the misdirected poor noobs who've spawned this strange backlash from the tech's.

As much as I've enjoyed playing with the roms (and've dumped good bucks in response)....the fun is gone.....at least in the black venture).

As a 25 yr teacher behavioral programming

'chef' I can tell you there are way better ways of stopping the noob waste posts than the whining by senior members seen here.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bleeding_edge:
why is tigher moderation so difficult?

and why hasnt there been much moderation so far ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] emann30:
Thanks for the quick response JAsJAm.

I AM THE SENIOR NOOOOOOB:mad:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] peter petrelli:
**** yeah you are.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] galahor:
JasJas, when you get the new 3.5, do you open a new thread or you will publish here?

Thankyou
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] david beckham:
dont think you can be a proud ass here.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] GreatGrey:
JasJammin,

I'm gonna be in Melbourne on the 22nd of May, and for 3 days after.

It woud be an honor to send a taxi to get you, buy you all the Crown Lager you and associated lady could handle, and then also provide transport simarally home.

I think your work is awesome, first that has worked with my company's lame ass software.

Serious, I'll buy you anything in the bar, all night long.

Oh, I'm a pilot, so MEL is like a normal layover for me. La de dah.

BTW, great port of the OS, if I didn't already say that.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] icemantwilight:
JJ.. Moet is overpriced. go for the Glenfiddich or the Johnny Blue ..

And remember.. you earned it!