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[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
So i have had this phone since the 3rd of this month on AT&T, and so far i love it! BUT i do have 2 complaints:

1) phone gets hot! it truly does, even in power saver mode with 4 A57 cores disabled.

2) Battery sucks compared to my M8. I just get through a whole day but it MUST be on power saver, Custom ROM (ARHD) and have Greenify installed.

These 2 problems can both be fixed with some software updates. for instance, there is NO REASON all 8 cores should be on all the time. and the A57 cores should not have a min frequency of 635Mhz. The 4 A53 cores are always on as well and if even a lite load is put on the CPU, all 4 cores spike to 1.5GHz and stay there for a while. the stock kernel is just very inefficient. So hopefully with android 5.1 coming out, HTC will fix their kernel and solve both these problems.

Theres a few hiccups in the software as well. for instance, HTC Boomsound keeps toggling itself off or onto theater mode for no reason. Camera quality can be improved still along with video quality. mainly 1080p. A few other little things tho.

overall, this is a wicked fast phone that i know i will enjoy for the next 4 years while i have it so as long as those 2 issues get fixed.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
please read this for battery tips and why i don't recommend using powersaver (which disables the A57 cluster) http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=60730854&postcount=35

but overall you made a very good post, the M9 is in definite need of optimizations and HTC has a lot at stack, but we should remember it's their first 64bit octa flagship and it's also their first pixel dense camera, completely new SoC and camera Sensor

OEMs you have a homework to do

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[One (M9) General] Johnny424:
Hamdir.. I appreciate your optimism too. I have high hopes that in the coming months and small issues with smoothness, camera quality and optimisation will be taken care of with HTC otas. I still love this device even after reading tons of bad reviews so far. kind of a downer but I plan on giving HTC the benefit of the doubt. I think what issues remain can be fixed via ota and time
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Coming from S6, I was ready to sacrifice the quick good photos for the stunning looking M9 and its Sense 7, but I can't but see that it's not only aout the camera.

The screen is lottery and some are complaining it's too dim, less bright than M8, while other said the opposite. [MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION] the units we get in Lebanon have which kind of screen?

And now I see that it can get hot even outside gaming :crying:

Everytime I convince myself to swap from M9 to S6, someone tells me the M9 is a buggy phone
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
there is no lottery with the M9 screen, they are one type of screen everywhere, the difference is a simply too slight in terms of white balance between all units, as they are calibrated very cold over 7500k they just differ slightly

now about brightness, this is very important: if you are going to buy a boxed M9, in its new state it's very dim and blue/green tinted because of the glue, made even worse due to the green stock theme of Sense 7, so don't panic, it needs a week or two, it will get very bright and clear the tint, it will eventually become 95% as bright as the M8, minus 5% for the polarized filter, which i think you will like the most as it makes the M9 more visible outdoor

to speed up the process i recommend that you change the theme to something more colorful with less blue/green backgrounds

or you can simply get the unit hisham has, one of the two gold units he has is one of the warmest M9 screens i ever saw, also both units have zero corner click issues, you only have to accept the gold ;)

slight OT i forgot to tell you that you were right about pink on the s6, i finally saw a proper s6 screen and its gorgeous minus the sharpening halos which i hate, however the amount of pink affected screens in our market is shocking, most of the s6 i see are affected

you say you are afraid it gets hot outside gaming, nothing worse than the S6 66c in camera, no matter how hot the M9 gets i can still hold it but the glass on s6 gets too hot enough to drop it, our measurements in the mega thread shows that the M9 CPU is actually cooler than s6, and buggy? why don't you think TW is buggy?
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
I never felt the S6 hot, unless when charging first minutes with the quick charger, the temps are always cool.

From hearing the users here it looks like M9 can get hot any time even when not using games or camera, which is not the case of the S6.

Of course using a thick case like Dot View is a good solution but I want to hold the M9 half of the time naked
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
i only use it naked and the warmth is not worse than M7, to be exact temps wise it falls right between the M8 and M7, in gaming its actually cooler than both

about the S6, it was the S6 Edge, so maybe that has worse thermals i dont know
[One (M9) General] reubenskelly1992:
My m9 never gets hot. And the screen is better than the s6. The s6 is the buggy phone
[One (M9) General] Duncan1982:
Well I have had the M9 since launch and had no extreme temps.

My use contains a lot of video, photo, Social media, emails, music and general stuffs.

Often I use while on fastcharge where you would expect high temps to occur and whilst it does warm up more on charge than off, its never what I would call out of the normal range nor extreme.

The M9 being all metal in some aspects is one big heat sink, the times where it does heat up is when installing a new ROM & its upgrading.

The Screen being better than the S6 hmm in regards to Reubens case there was horrible tints in his and replacements so in his experience the M9's screen is better add to that Kcal right lol

But the S6 is a great device, I wasn't to annoyed at the Non Removable battery, but why Samsung had to copy apple in their 32,64,128gb configuration beggers belief.

Also the S6 with having design cues and yes all OEM's do to a degree. However the M series seems at least to me more original and has that soul and good vibe to it.

OK my ramble ended, but overall the M9 is a very nice device that has and will get better with this XDA community offering tips and tricks, ROMs & kernels.

Thanks if you have read all of the above :P
[One (M9) General] neo905:
I've had the phone for a month now. I had the Silver first one and switched to the Gunmetal as I preferred it in the end. This whole M9 heat thing is grossly exaggerated.
[One (M9) General] reubenskelly1992:
Yeah the s6 was a good device. Just rubbish quality control

Lol I wouldn't have been as impressed without kcal true:) but even a good s6 without the tints. The whites on amoled are crap. And I like a good crisp white. Which doesn't excuse on an amoled screen.

And mine does heat when flashing or upgrading a rom. But that doesn't bother me. Not using it at that point lol. To be honest I noticed the s6 the around the camera area got warm quicker and during less mundane things than the m9. Not that it bothered me but just something I noticed

I didn't think I would miss not having an sd card but I did. Especially when I accidentally wipes the internal storage and had nothing on it.

That never happened with my m8 because I always had things backed up and stored on my sd card;)

So other than the better camera I prefer everything else about the m9:)
[One (M9) General] exocetdj:
Brilliant review and totally how I feel about the m9. Bet half the people bashing the m9 haven't tried it and also don't know this isn't the forum for them to be in if they are blindly going to slate the device. Those people fall under the troll category lol :good:
[One (M9) General] SPreston2001:
Well to be fair, 32, 64, & 128gb are the most common sizes in terms of phone storage so I don't think they were copying Apple in that regard...
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
My review of the M9 is up: http://forum.dailymobile.net/forums/htc/97629-review-vegetaleb-honest-review-htc-m9.html
[One (M9) General] hoopla man:
Points where the M9 is better than the S6

I normally don’t see/ read reviews these days due too much bias and and HTC bashing. But I did come across this test on Phone-buff that rates phone performance by a test that simulates real-world use better than a set of benchmarks.

And the HTC One M9 won among itself, the S6 and the iPhone 6 due to its superior multitasking abilities! :)

Also, they’ve tried a new drop test using a testing machine that can produce absolutely identical fall scenarios between phones. The M9 comes out on top of that as well, narrowly beating the iPhone and crushing the S6: (the last kinda expected.. ;) )

The above videos are on Youtube.

By the way, [MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION], Android Central have made a mention about your posts on the one M9’s camera in low light. :good:

PS: Sorry for the lack of links, but I’m not allowed to post them up here.
[One (M9) General] smudgelab:
Very good. From my limited time with my M9, i pretty much concur with everything you've stated here. :good:
[One (M9) General] neo905:
How come you didn't talk about battery life?
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
he did:
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
I couldn't give a definitive view about the battery as a phone needs 3 to 4 weeks to settle down, I am actually getting a little improvement these last 2 days, if you want a perfect battery you will need a Z3, I heard they last 3 days!

The M9 with mid to high use and screen at 100% needs just one charging per 24h
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
I am sure you are not using CPU powersaver, because this is exactly my battery life, very good endurance today

Look at all this awake time, non stop WiFi downloads all day long, the rest is phone calls, gaming and camera use, occasional data powersaver
[One (M9) General] Thermaltake868:
I want to see some comparison in pictures with old software and with new one if someone can provide I want to see that major difference in that update that they are talking about.
[One (M9) General] Galeleo:
Battery Life

For those that have played with this phone for some time, and because the topic is on battery life, can someone answer this or have some input to this:

How long will the battery last if you say watch a two hour movie that is in .avi format then surf the net?

Say you are waiting for a bus or a flight and there is free wifi and the only source of entertainment is your phone (its fully charged), how long could you use it before you have to start hunting for a charge? (assume no gaming, usage consists of surfing, listening to music, watching movies stored on the SD card or streaming from a website)
[One (M9) General] K00li79:
I guess you'll get around 4,5 5hours of screen on time if you just watch movies. That's what I average with normal use. combined with about 17 or 18 hours of standby. ?
[One (M9) General] Galeleo:
Wow, that's not bad at all!

How much battery life does a phone call take? Say a 10-20 minute call when you are down to say 10% battery left?
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Ok here a daylight comparison between the old (actual European Rom) and the new 1.40

With the old HTC Camera M9:

Crop Old HTC Camera M9

With the new HTC Camera M9

Crop New HTC Camera M9

And the S6 Crop:

As you can see the color reproduction is now Amazing with the Jpeg of the HTC M9, even better than on S6, details also are much better but there is a little over-sharpening making very slight aliasing, I recommend as Hamdir said to lower the Sharpening to -1 and even -1.5 (but not more)
[One (M9) General] neo905:
How about low light shots with the 1.40.XXXX?
[One (M9) General] Thermaltake868:
Nice improvement by that last update. Can you take some night photos if it's not a problem.
[One (M9) General] mhajii210:
Horrible M9 Reviews

http://bgr.com/2015/05/27/htc-one-m9-camera-test/

Guys I just don't understand what I'm doing right that all these reviewers are doing wrong with this phone! I must have the only great HTC M9 out there or something. My wife has an iPhone 6, and we regularly take pictures with her phone and sometimes with my M9 to compare. My wife and I both think that the M9's photos are more detailed and perfectly fine in GOOD lighting. In low light situations however, I have found that setting things up manually (which basically the M9 will then act like a cheap DSLR camera where you can manually control focus, shutter speed, white balance etc.) I am able to take good pictures. The last software update made major improvements to the camera, but I still feel that HTC needs to do more to improve pictures in low lighting since I am able to take way better photos manually. I have used a Samsung Galaxy SIII, and there is NO WAY the camera is better on that phone than the M9!! I honestly feel the camera is actually pretty good. I'm very sad the phone is selling so poorly and I hope HTC will be able to move enough M9s to minimize losses.

mhajii210
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
wait for it, 1.40.x (expected today or next week) will be solve at least two of the main issues mentioned by DXO
[One (M9) General] lawyerone:
The thing is, even with manual control in low light, the picture came out horribly wrong. Noises everywhere, blurru here and there. Those issues doesnt exist at the iPhone 6. Not as noisy and not as blurry at the very least.

For bright light? Yes. I honestly like M9's bright light photo more. But unfortunately, i use my camera more indoor. Dim light? Not that dim, but still, not that bright. And the result are just horrible. Shaky, lots of noise.

I dont really mind the shake TBH, but please, fix those noise. I really hate it how HTC kind of never get this thing right. Not the white balance or exposure, but the noise. My photos mostly came out grainy

Other than that, this phone is just perfect.
[One (M9) General] Clark Joseph Kent:
That will be enough of the name calling/insulting...the back and forth. This is a review thread, not a bash each other, regarding your reviews.

This will be the only warning I give and Thread Cleaned.
[One (M9) General] SPreston2001:
Well I gave my honest opinion about MY PHONE that I brought with MY own money and everytime somebody gives an honest opinion that isnt praising the M9 people get all sensitive! This is a reviews thread and not all reviews are positive! I still have my M8 and my M9 is probably going to get sold. I personally love HTC phones I just feel like the M9 is a bit of a let down. It got somethings right, but missed the mark in other areas. If people cant handle others opinions then a public forum is not for you...
[One (M9) General] Clark Joseph Kent:
Good. But it was your delivery method Sir. The bashing, name calling is not needed. And thank you for understanding this.....

Carry on!
[One (M9) General] SPreston2001:
Your right I guess my response to the situation wasnt the best lol. But its over now so water under the bridge... :)
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
new review and as usual, 8 over 10 score + bashing

http://androidandme.com/2015/06/reviews/review-htc-one-m9/
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
My S6 vs M9 Review is up

http://forum.dailymobile.net/forums/temp-forum/97648-htc-m9-vs-galaxy-s6-user-review.html
[One (M9) General] slvrhwk:
Rarity - A positive review for M9 - http://gearburn.com/2015/06/htc-one-m9-review-the-same-but-better/
[One (M9) General] Snah001:
Here a quite positive review from a German website via Google translate:

https://translate.google.nl/transla...t-Android-Smartphone-HTC-One-M9-11194687.html
[One (M9) General] Applesexual:
http://www.chip.de/artikel/HTC-One-M9-Handy-Test_77280056.html

TL;DR - They found the same problems as the tweakers.net review. Updated battery test coming soon. Can't wait for the results. :cyclops:
[One (M9) General] rkial:
Or you could just read it and see that they say
[One (M9) General] defendthat:
These guys are here just to bash HTC don't worry about them
[One (M9) General] Applesexual:
How am I bashing htc? I said that I'm excited to see the final battery life results.

This is it. Bookmark that website. Their final numbers will be what the consumer M9 will be.

These are their current numbers:

Phone Running Time: 730 minutes

Online Running Time: 390 minutes

We shall see if the final version improves these numbers.
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
Hug are they saying the battery is good or bad?
[One (M9) General] Applesexual:
Current figures are very, VERY bad, but they are with pre-release software.

They now have the final software and are re-doing the test. Man, this could either make or break the phone. Anyone else excited? :D
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
I sure am
[One (M9) General] SPreston2001:
Im happy that HTC is fixing the software issues, but im still disappointed in the recycled design...
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-QUvWWtEDw
[One (M9) General] grrrr_unt:
Seems like overheating issue has been fixed for good.. No news on camera though. However, in the video above, the reviewer states (in the comments) that lowlight photos is comparable to those of S6.. I wonder how true that is
[One (M9) General] breaky9973:
Both tweakers.net and chip.de will re-test the M9 with the new updated software. I am curious what caused the heating problems and hope they have been eliminated. Also I hope they fixed a few of the camera issues both sites found.
[One (M9) General] Albert Poon:
I have words from those who got the latest software, saying the camera did improved, at least not so greenish.
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
The camera results we saw till now showed huge loss of details with oily paint effects when at 100% scale, this is what worrying most.

The screen viewing angles and brightness nits also were not good, I wonder how an OTA can fix these. Nits are important as the M8's screen was already not good enough under direct sunlight, so if it's like or worst than M8...
[One (M9) General] EchoX860:
Viewing angles don't bother me, who looks at their camera from the side, I don't think I've ever done that. As for the camera I've taken maybe...11 photos since I got my M8 at launch last year. Overall I care about the UI, Battery and Speed. Hopefully the battery gets better with these updates.
[One (M9) General] badboy47:
Thanks for putting this thread together. I am looking forward to more reviews but I am not expecting much from M9. I probably stick with m8 for now but I am eager to see if HTC balled up and fix those overheating and terrible camera shots issues.
[One (M9) General] Rage1ofakind:
There was no big overheating issue. Only 2 sites posted dramatic results and one guy on the show floor. All in which had non final software + chargers n extensive benchmark apps running.

I am hoping the camera gets improved. Both from that final software update that rolled out yesterday and in the near future with the camera app update. Which hopefully brings in RAW support :)
[One (M9) General] badboy47:
Don't fool yourself. Just because someone says bad things about HTC doesn't mean they are bashing on them. Many m8 users and I myself were disappointed at m9. Adding 1gb ram and slapping a somewhat better CPU does not justifies a $600+ price tag. Anyway this is just my opinion and I am not here to change your or any HTC fanboy mind... Carry on.
[One (M9) General] th3:
Not sure if this carephone warehouse mini comparison was posted anywhere (dated 19th)? http://lowdown.carphonewarehouse.com/tips-reviews/htc-one-m9-vs-sony-xperia-z3/

The pic quality is lousy compared to the z3, same tint problems as the 1st March previews.

Their old one was HTC One M9 v HTC One M8: https://youtu.be/OgO3wEl7Ibk

Carphone Warehouse, one of HTCs biggest most important partners. I'm not sure why they would wait till the 19th to post that. In the UK, they are probably the biggest distributor for HTC.

They told me M9 will not hit the UK before 31st March.

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[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Damn!

This confirm the poor camera and screen, there is no way for me to buy a phone that is hard to see under our Lebanese sun, the Z3 looks like it has twice the brightness.

Also Z3 has not the best camera specially compared to Note 4 and S6, so if the M9 can't even compare with Z3...
[One (M9) General] th3:
Let's just wait till the *magical* final software before conclusions [emoji4]

So far, things look bleak, it's obvious.

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[One (M9) General] Adam182:
From what I've gathered from previous posts, neither of you have any interest in buying the M9 anyway. Theres alot to be said for people basing their whole thoughts on a phone from just the camera anyway.

Its funny how now that the "overheating" rumours have died down everyone has jumped back onto the camera hating bandwagon. I bet if they perfected the camera everyone would jump onto the next best thing like the design or the black bar.

From what I've seen since the most recent update the camera will by far exceed 99% of anyones requirements - Adam
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Lol bro I never said anything about the heating thingy, I always cared about camera and screen from weeks
[One (M9) General] th3:
This is completely false, about me.

Infact, I probably have a lot more interest in the M9 than you. If I didn't have interest, I wouldn't bother posting here.

Search my posting before making such conclusions. I never post in LG, Apple, Sony and Samsung. 'Cus I'm not interested in them.

Look at my posting history. I'm heavily HTC inclined since the Desire days where I was a major part of the Desire XDA community.

And I'm an M8 owner, part of that community.

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---------- Post added at 03:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:39 PM ----------

O2 UK has told me that they are getting first delivery 7th of April.

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[One (M9) General] Super-Veloce:
Waiting for better reviews of final M9 with firmware updates and waiting for the Sony Xperia Z4 reviews, when launched. One M9 and Z4 have both great design, both stereo front speakers, both big camera, both SN810.. I'll wait and see :)
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
Just take my money. I have total fate in HTC. Shame about heat and no ois, but... Still it's smooth, sexy and will have loads of good roms from the best devs. So. Take my money.

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[One (M9) General] gavinfabl:
I'm a Note 4 user, but did own the M8 and every decent HTC phone prior. With the 4mp M8 camera I got perfectly usable photos and many that none of my Samsung friends could dream of capturing. I even outdid a lumia 1020 with the M8. It's all a balance. In reality we don't pixel peek. We look at the artistic value or the thing or person of interest. If there was a sexy naked person, would we care what phone took that shot ;)
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
I work for HTC, give me your money :D
[One (M9) General] Cryosx:
Well yeah, people want a perfect phone.
[One (M9) General] th3:
This was posted a few days ago showing the old overheating, by Chip:

https://youtu.be/XoLUi8nlzqk

Posted yesterday, showing the large sample of pics. Says the sound quality is way ahead of the M8. HTC One M9 Gold On Silver Review: http://youtu.be/4-QUvWWtEDw

New HTC vids... HTC One M9 - HTC Connect: Play your music and vid…: http://youtu.be/d_UsaqZK4Is

HTC One M9 - Photo Editor: Create more with photo effects: https://youtu.be/dPHvEPUDTlM

HTC One M9 - HTC Sense Home: Follow your style: https://youtu.be/_F07mNGtIGw

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