yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Tornado] thenext1:
Hi to all.... i really can't wait to see WM6 running on my phone...

I have 2 questions:

1) will WM5torage run on the rom? coz i find it very useful...

2) is the base WM6 build a microsoft internal one (perhaps an alpha/beta one with bugs in the kernel, maybe) or a stable release?

many thanks...
[HTC Tornado] Davex:
That's a good question. Wouldn't be happy to upgrade to an unstable beta version... thx
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
It is Microsoft internal built ROM. That's why the two cookers are working so hard trying to remove the built number !

It has some bugs, which are being fixed by the cookers. But since WM6 is based on WM5 and it has fixed many WM5 bugs, I think there shoudn't be many bugs.

But then, all WM5 softwares should work for WM6 right ?
[HTC Tornado] Woland:
And what about A2DP? Sorry, if I repeated suggestion. :)
[HTC Tornado] malefactor:
Is there a developers' forum, wiki, or otherwise? I can possibly contribute to this effort.
[HTC Tornado] vlodeck:
Ok, guys. Seeing you have a real mess out here, I come with some help.

What do you need?

Stickying the WM6 thread? Deleting something?
[HTC Tornado] malatyaspor:
is that rom running on C500? If yes where can I download it, if no when can it will runnig?
[HTC Tornado] Dishe:
A2dp Solution!!

Ok WM6 cookers, I've got big news here-

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=310438

Apparently, the latest WM6 roms have some serious fixes for the A2DP "hiss" that many headsets have been experiencing (such as certain plantronics and i.tech models).

The early WM6 "prerelease" roms had worse A2DP than WM5, however supposedly, the final release is a great improvement.

This is why, as I mentioned earlier, some of the new cooked roms have good a2dp quality, but no one knew how or why.

I'm assuming since what is being cooked up here was a beta rom originally, the a2dp probably isn't the new and improved one.

Can we try and extract the a2dp drivers from a good rom for the final release?
[HTC Tornado] thenext1:
ok, thanks for the info

I only hope that there's no thing left out in the OS in this rom, and it does not have bugs compromising the phone's or my mind stability :D (i.e. keyboard bugs, or radio bugs...)

EDIT: what does "removing the build number" mean?
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Well, FYI, everythign is left out in the OS in this ROM, its plain clean Vanilla ROM, install whatever you need only, safe alot of ROM space.

build number is some sort of identification which MS can use to trace the ROM was leaked from which beta users. Then MS can sue that guy for breaching the terms and conditions and ban that guy as well
[HTC Tornado] ftg888:
Good Luck On Exams

Please try and ignore the silly questions from people that cant read.

Please study hard and be successful in your studies.

And really thanks for giving our device more hope, more fun,

and more cool toys to play with.

To others please REREAD the postings and dont bother the devs

too much.

A
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
ftg888, your officially my favorite person :D

Thanks :)

Phil
[HTC Tornado] giuseppebitonti:
WHEN

MY ONLY QUESTION IS..... WHEN I CAN SEE THE WM6 ROM ON MY TORNADO? IT ISN'T DIFFICULT TO SAY??.. SO.. .. .. GIVE US AN ANS.!!! :mad:
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
FFS: WORK IS STARTING ON OR AFTER THE TWENTY-FIRST OF JUNE TWO THOUSAND AND SEVEN. thats 21/06/2007, or 06/21/2007, or 21st of June 2007.

if you actually read any of the fcuking threads you would have realised that by now.

PATIENCE! we are not going to waste time on developing wm6 just for eejits like you who havent got the patience to wait. and no, we arent going to release it any earlier because our primary objective is to protect our source.

AFTER THE 21st of JUNE THIS YEAR.

theres your ****ing answer.
[HTC Tornado] iron1:
hey duke "nukem" muppets!!!

BOOM right at your FACE!!! hehehe!!!
[HTC Tornado] keff:
duke_stix, please don't be aggravated, there are many people who aren't having stupid remarks and realize you are doing a great thing in your free time, but you don't know about them, because they aren't having stupid remarks:). Good luck with the school, its definetly more important than any ROM.
[HTC Tornado] arpy:
...whats up?

hey guys...cool down and relax, the Internet is for everyone, and there are soooo many different Characteres out there...

..and sorry for my bad english(typical-have-to-say), but i want to put my own **** here,too...;)

@ all the Geeks and Freaks like me;

at the moment,yesterday and maybe tomorrow, there is NO WM06 for my lovely Phone out there,and if anybody got any Infos for an real Download link, PLEEEEEASE POST IT HERE!!!

For now,we have to wait till 21st o june for further Infos.BASTA!!

@ the Developers for the brandnew and mysterious ROM;

Yea,if you really have an crappy rom (...i believe in it:D ), and you have the ability to "fix" it, keep it on, my best wishes are with you. But first,complete your tasks, a good Job needs good knowledge!!

But..sorry,...:o

...you have blethered too early, we are all SmartPhone-Junkies here, we can hardly expect it!New Stuff is needed in this times...i hope you may understand my little criticism, this thread is like "sit on hot plates"
[HTC Tornado] giuseppebitonti:
Stay quite!

eheh :) nice, very nice.. congratulations.. but don't forget that is for a ""eejits"" man that now we know when working starts!!

in the end you say us that the rom would have been ready for the end of May.. I respect your job, your time, you intelligens, you! but don't say a date for an other..

Have a nice job.. i prefer that you work good for 1 year against you work bad for a week! ;)

I do not intend to hate you.. but nobody wanted to reply at the question! :p
[HTC Tornado] alncool:
just need an information ^^

Hi everyone !

I'm wondering about feathures we can have in WM6 especially in the Font/display abilities. Does any version of WM6 can display correctly all kind of characters such as western ones or asian ones? Is there a unicode font or something like that ?
[HTC Tornado] bogy16:
UUUHH im so ****ing exicited today is the ****ing day of relesing THE GREAT WINDOWS MOBILE 6, but my phone is broken,so i cannot test it...ohhh **** **** fuuuuuuckkkkkkkkkkk
[HTC Tornado] bogy16:
do i get a ban for all that ****???:rolleyes:
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
not of release: development has begun though!
[HTC Tornado] furby:
Cool, read through both the threads for the first time today. Makes me all excited :D
[HTC Tornado] mikeeey:
really? where does it say this?
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Please read the thread, at least few pages back.

Their exam had just over, now they are putting on their cooking hat and start to cook our ROM
[HTC Tornado] chocula81:
I wonder how many minutes is it gonna stay in the cooker... :p Can´t wait to taste it... ^^
[HTC Tornado] Lemark:
As said before I prefer a vanilla ROM with NOTHING extra installed.:D
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
So am I, especiallly with that sucky Windows Live Messenger which caches all the information/dp at the phone storage, the memory will be gone in no time
[HTC Tornado] Jajajop:
:cool: i'll be really happy to try it on my Qtek 8300,
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
just a small update, but im going to try a 'test' flash in the next 15minutes! there still isnt an en-masse update available because we still havent managed to remove build id's yet!
[HTC Tornado] nitramk:
nice....

Ok, nice :)

please keep us updated so that i wont start biting my nails down too much :P

Have you corrected any bugs or is it just a first-time test?
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
not running im afraid. it was just an 'experimental' run!lol.

if someone could track down an official HTC Vox rom for me would be great!
[HTC Tornado] lmeijerink88:
Vox Rom

need this one? It's from dopod

http://www.dopodasia.com/download/RUU_Vox_DOPODASIA_WWE_1.19.707.3_4.1.13.37_02.83.90_Ship.exe

Hope I helped you guys :rolleyes:
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
thanx! that ought to help!
[HTC Tornado] lmeijerink88:
If anything else have to be done; ask ;)

I'm just as curious as everyone else !
[HTC Tornado] bluehanson:
Hah, I posted the official Vox ROM about 3 weeks ago, which have been moved to Vox Forum by Mod.
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Exactly, I wanted to quote you as well

So mind telling us how that Vox rom manage to help you?
[HTC Tornado] lmeijerink88:
Sorry, should have told that :o

How is it going with the rom?

Simply can't wait :rolleyes:
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
hi

the plan is to do the following:

Patch the official VOX rom with drivers from the tornado- this eliminates the need to remove build id's, means the OS will basically be working and small bugs need ironing out.

put simply, it makes our life a lot easier! well, once i've figured out how to do it!

thanx
[HTC Tornado] djp3k05:
It seem's a good idea, i expect to be a quick one. I have several questions: Java platform shall be included in the rom, or at least as a separate cab? Just pvplayer knows rtps. He is build-in only in the orange rom. can flushed out of the orange rom and puts as a separate cab for wm6? Excuse my english and thank.
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Seems cool, but is there any Vanilla version ?
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
It will be vanilla, don't worry ;)

@ duke_stix, just tried rebuilding the ROM using the vox IMGFS, tornado XIP, and tornado device drivers but the flash froze at 91% most likely due to the fact OS.nb was around 40mb in size (around 9% bigger than the original OS.nb ;))

The build numbers can be editted by hex edit coredll.dll in the XIP, I'll be seeking some hermes chef's help with this.

For all of you waiting for WM6 for tornado, progress has begun :D however, as said before, we will release it when its ready, not before, after, sideways or whatever. Just when it's ready ;)

Phil
[HTC Tornado] lmeijerink88:
Vanilla? Is it possible to rip cab's like WLM to install on the StorageCard? :rolleyes:
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
going to probably try something again tonight if i can get onto the pc.

@jm012a9749, could you find me a list of all of the 'core' components/modules that are necessary (i.e, device specific) theres a lot of ****e in both of the dumps i managed to make that seem to be system files but i didnt realise that there would be so many that would be so specific!

that way we could just rebuild the vox nb, and remove all the unnecessary jpg files!
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
working on it as we speak by the way!
[HTC Tornado] rootgremlin:
SDHC possible?

Is the Tornado Platform capable of using SDHC cards, mayby by modified drivers? If so could you guys add this to your TODO list?

By the way, thank you all for your great work
[HTC Tornado] bluehanson:
Coool, it's a way to go. It seems the OS.nb is a little big for tornado, which should be reduced to 38-39 mb, as the maximum .nbf file I flashed was 39 mb. Thank you all for your great work.
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
Yeah it was slightly too big ;) Mainly because I was too lazy to trawl through the dump and remove the crap, it was just a test build really.

Phil
[HTC Tornado] Innersense:
Keep Up the good work guy's

Massive's are waiting for beta testing!
[HTC Tornado] oolinger:
Hello,

I am desperately following this thread and isngreat to read, that there is ongoing process for WM6 on Tornado.

The other day I installed a program to my phone, that somehow messed up with the Storage card naming and now i have to reinstall my phone from scratch.

As I am very much interested in putting WM6 on it, it would be interesting to know about the schedule for release.

Will it take a week, or more several weeks or even longer?

If you have some time to let me know, would be nice to have an idea, if I can wait to reinstall all apps on my phone some day on WM6, or if I have to go through this earlier on WM5 again.

Regards, Olaf
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
will take several weeks we believe at the moment as no major progress has been made.
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
So are you guys gonna cook the ROM based on Vox ROM or using the internal built ROM ?
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
most likely a patched vox rom as it removes a lot of crap, or we may end up patching the internal rom! we just dont know yet
[HTC Tornado] lmeijerink88:
Hope that progress will be made :rolleyes:

I'm really curious at the end result of your hard work !

(And if Beta-testing have to be done, I'm willing to participate)
[HTC Tornado] mikeeey:
beta desting will not be avaible. he said it will be done when its done lol. not before, not after, but when its done. i take it that means when its fully working and done. no need for beta then.
[HTC Tornado] AN7 OverClocker:
do we have ane progress?
[HTC Tornado] NiTroGenious:
What is the matter with you, people??? Will you ever stop asking about the progress? It will be released when it is ready! Can't you respect that? :mad:
[HTC Tornado] lixxus:
im guessing cause people are starting to think that its nothing but vapourware..
[HTC Tornado] giuseppebitonti:
THere's nothing to say if someone ask when the rom is released, also because it's 2 mouth and half that we are talking about this project but nothing was and is done.. it could be hard to do.. but don't impossible.. fix a release date it is not a problem if you KNOW what have to do!! but probably you don't know ;)...

good luck!! ;)
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
They are not dedicated programmer who only cook the ROM FREE for us, it is not like both of them are sitting on a round table and discuss on how to cook the ROM, as they TOO are enthusiast on cooking this ROM to use for themselves, I believe they can do it quickly as they have the passion, if you have nothing to contribute, don't freaking POST ! Also remember that they might be from different timezone and the time they can communicate with each other is limited, remember they too have their own social life.

Stop asking on release date, even if there is one, it's not like they can manage to clear out all the bugs by then, so they might need some time, so stop asking about release date !

The way you reply above, is just too selfish, who the f*** do you think you are? Consider yourself lucky someone is doing it
[HTC Tornado] lixxus:
wow that was a nice rant.
[HTC Tornado] arpy:
WTF?

WTF?

@ the developers of the new ROM:

Why dont you release a buggy and full-of-error prerelease for all the noobs, who wants a WM6 ROM? Feed them with a crappy ROM, so they may brick up their Phone alone...hehe.
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
hey

lol

no, we dont do round table meetings.

we can assure you it is not vapour-ware! it is ....the real deal.lol. we can assure you! when we previously though we had received a dud rom, we posted saying so, but, within a few days i got hold of another rom

i will gladly release a buggy rom, but i CANNOT release a build that has not had its build id's removed. main priority is to protect my source!sorry to anyone who doesnt see that as a high priority but i obtained the rom under the promise that the source would be protected as they could lose their job and be sued if it gets traced back to them.
[HTC Tornado] malefactor:
So, I posted a rant against the idiotic postings of late, and to my surprise it was removed. Fine. It deserved to be removed, because it was utterly worthless trash.

However, is it too much to ask that similarly incoherent (but actually sincere), useless messages be removed from this thread? It's become a comical parade of lazy illiterates.

---

Duke et all: Do you need more bandwidth? Do you need people to tinker/flash/test/check dlls etc? I'm qualified; PM me if you have specific things that will help accelerate this.
[HTC Tornado] giuseppebitonti:
Hey duke_stiks.. i'm an computer science engegneer.. if is too difficult to protect the source tell me about.. well.. i don't know the build, what do you mean with protect the source? there's a code on rom settings or on the rom file? if you explain me fine, i could work at a solution ;)

then you can release a rom to share.. the fixes are simple i think...

regards!

Giuseppe
[HTC Tornado] arpy:
Hehehe....

Pity.Of course you have to protect your source...nobody here wants to hurt somebodys job, since then nobody has a little bit of it.

But i got an idea...for all the crykids here, who wants a new rom (why?Do you have any problems with your old one?):confused:

Try the IPhone Rom for Tornado!It is just the best Rom for Tornado i`ve ever seen, and if you get any insolubly problems with it, you are a thumb Idiot and you have no needings for a "Crossbow Rom".:mad:

What do your need for your phone?Who can say precisely what he needs?Only a new name? Which function on Crossbow-Rom do you need for your Phone?Tell me, and i may help you...:cool:
[HTC Tornado] lixxus:
nice rant..like the others here.

im guessing people want the rom cause it fixes bugs etc,

may raise the value of the phone.
[HTC Tornado] arpy:
OK....bugs....please explain me one bug...and do you really think,the "new" Rom is bugfree?

"May raise the Value of my phone"....is a really good argument!But...not very helpful to fix any problems here!!

Postings like yours (maybe mine,too)are unnecessary, and makes this thread realy unreadable
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Well, right now , most of the " Must have " WM6 apps are already availabe via CAB files,

you have Windows Live Messenger Mobile , then Office 7, so now the rest of us are just looking forward to Vanilla ROM and a more stable OS such as ( Exit function, contact sending, etc etc )
[HTC Tornado] malefactor:
I will qualify this message by saying it's definitely off topic, however:

Holy crap. Try the iPhone. It has some downsides, but they're fixable/liveable. It utterly changes the game. I like my wm5 HTC device, and yet, I absolutely fell in love with the iPhone despite the fact that I walked in expecting not to.

Why did I post this? Because this thread/forum is full of cluebies gyrating and vibrating about when they can get their hands on wm6. What I'm trying to convey is that every phone I have encountered that has attempted to provide mobile web browsing is utter **** in comparison to what I just tried out.
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
hi

if anyone on here knows how to verify XML files im all ears! right now thats the biggest hurdle.

surely someone must know!
[HTC Tornado] Aitz:
Hi!

w3schools has an simple XML validator. I don't know if this one fulfill your needs, but it's an alternative.

URL: http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_validator.asp
[HTC Tornado] DSF:
sorry for the offtopic, but the "IPhone Rom" has a lot of bugs. it has some strong points, but also weak:

- after a time the phone lags without any reason

- gprs traffic monitor does not work

- joystick is horrible (at least on spv c600.. the joystick from orange uk aku 2.0 rom is way way better)

- others that i don't remember right now (it's 2AM+)

edit: more on http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1222610#post1222610

now on topic:

for the `cookers`:

- can you include the SD_HC (OMAP850_SDHC.dll) driver from the "IPhone Rom" ?

- can you include the joystick driver (keybdr.dll or smth like that) from orange uk aku 2.0 rom?

with this rom, the joystick is more responsive than with other roms (at least on spv c600)
[HTC Tornado] coderuckus:
Altova XMLSpy is the ultimate XML Editor. This will allow you to verify XML files against an XSD, or even just check to make sure it is well formed and doesn't break any of the 'rules'. If you need any additional help with bits and pieces of the project I would be more than willing to help.
[HTC Tornado] lixxus:
hey duke_stix. hows it going whats the update on the rom?

if u need any files/ etc just ask..
[HTC Tornado] DSF:
SD HC driver... up to 32GB suport

http://www.bsquare.com/about/story.asp?PressID=451
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
sandman

can you zip and send me EVERY single XML file in any WM5 rom you have please.

thanx
[HTC Tornado] arpy:
xml

here you are, from my IPhoneRom on Tornado
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
I just unzipped that folder.

theres only 2 XML's in there!

there should be at lease 30!

anyone else try?!

i cant seem to be able to dump my official vodafone rom, keeps throwing up errors.
[HTC Tornado] Rify:
Xml files

Hi.

I copy the xml files from the windows directory.

i hope that's the good files.

Rify
[HTC Tornado] melgurth:
Hello. I'm up to help.

Uploading XML from 4 Tornado roms and WM6 Vox (may help).

Roms:

WM5

Cingular 284222_022501_Ship (2.0.13.0)

i-mate_SP5_RUS_2.5.332.1 (2.0.8.0)

Orange modaco (2.0.9.0)

Orange official aku2 (2.0.14.0)

WM6

dopod Vox

and remember - I'm U'rs to command ;)
[HTC Tornado] melgurth:
looks like files are hidden to windows (on smartphone those are system files). Try to check "show system and hidden files" in windows folder options.

could you give link to this rom - I'll try.
[HTC Tornado] melgurth:
duke_stix I downloaded that rom and extracted without problems - maybe You have outdated tools.

Anyway I put that xmls in attachment.
[HTC Tornado] jayjoe:
hi,

here are the xml's from a qtek 2.0.9.0 rom.
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
it would appear my tornado is dead. completly kaput. not even turning on.

shall post back at some other point if i can get it alive again.
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
false alarm! its back! :)
[HTC Tornado] glennza:
Here's the xml's from the iPhone ROM posted here....

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=300403

Been using it for a few months and it is very nice. Hope this helps :)
[HTC Tornado] imfloflo:
I was really afraid there!!! Good continuation, we will be patient.
[HTC Tornado] kluver:
Has read in review Tornado: "Physically the screen is capable to display 262 k colors, but because of restrictions of operational system it does not display more than 65 k". In models on WM6 the screen as displays 65 k colors. It is possible Somehow to make? Or only it will be accessible on the sixth nucleus?

P.s. sorry for my english
[HTC Tornado] malefactor:
Interesting, so we know it exists. But, we'd need the _actual driver_ to do anything. That company simply wants to sell the SDHC driver in bulk to businesses.

Find an ARM-based HTC WM6 device that supports SDHC and we might be talkin' ;-)
[HTC Tornado] thenext1:
in the windows folder of my i-mate sp5 there's a file named OMAP850_SDHC.dll.

shall this be useful? my device is wm5 anyway
[HTC Tornado] DSF:
@malefactor, on a post i've asked the rom "cookers":

"- can you include the SD_HC (OMAP850_SDHC.dll) driver from the "IPhone Rom" ?"

so I guess this ROM has drivers for SD HC.. or maybe not..

thenext1 have you tried miniSD larger than 2GB? (eg 4GB)?

We may move on another topic.

@duke_stix, are you considering to include the joystick driver from the latest orange uk rom (AKU 2.0) for spv c600?
[HTC Tornado] thenext1:
no, but I suppose that if the file is there, it means its in use..

anyway I've noticed stutters when I copy something to the SD card (even a few bytes file), when i'm listiening to music.
[HTC Tornado] winterdog:
I have a 4gb mini sd im my SP5 but it acts a bit odd.

it can not be written to by the phone but can be read by the phone (writen to from PC card reader)

have not ruled out that it may just be a dogy card as it is a no name brand cheepy from HKG.
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
DSF: provide me the driver and we'll stick it in!

a newer version appears to be available. working on obtaining it now!