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[Galaxy S6 General] tommaazz:
I am almost the same as you...i was 100% to get either s6 or s6 edge but now i am not that sure anymore and to be honest they are expensive especially the edge...the small battery is killing me...and then i also see my brothers Z3 (his first SONY phone and he said he will never have a samsung again) that have a 5h30min of SOT with 35% battery left and i am not that sure anymore...i might wait for Z4 but now the rumors have it it will be released in september and that is a little too long for me. The one phone i am also eagerly awaiting is ZTE NUBIA Z9 (march 26) especially if it will have very small bezels (i like the look of the small bezel phne) and now that i have a NUBIA Z7mini and i am very happy with it i might go for the NUBIA (i was curious to try chinese phone and that phone surprised me) ...the only think that i dont like in Z7mini is battery...and i also like the fact that there are not many of them in my country as for the samsung i think every 2nd person is gona have one...dont know what will happen till 10th of april
[Galaxy S6 General] smooth4lyfe:
I was going to the the Z4, but Sony's mobile division is going down under and is unstable with all their job cuts and them deciding not to focus much on their mobile department. I'd rather be with a company that is more stable and will provide updates on time and be assured my phone can be warranted
[Galaxy S6 General] :
Kind of the same.. I do want a S6 but I won't give up the battery life I get on my 6 Plus and go back to the days of worrying about battery life. I want to return to android but won't go backward in battery life. Had a Note 4 and that didn't match my Plus either. Z4 maybe?
[Galaxy S6 General] das boot:
If you prefer to wait 6 months for a phone, that is your option. Just remember....there will always be something "better" coming out in 6 months. Right now....and for the foreseeable future the s6 will be the best phone on the market.
[Galaxy S6 General] furfmonkey:
honestly (purely in my own opinion) if i HAD to get a phone now , i would pick the Note 4 over the S6 my wife has it and once you get used to a larger screen (still smaller than a nexus 6) its a really nice phone sd card slot,arguably the best camera on a smartphone,and i enjoy the s pen post its and making stupid doodles on it from time to time.. and games and movies look amazing... and the battery lasts forever (i have watched 2-3 hrs of movies on my wifes, played graphics intensive games like deer hunter and dino hunter and browsed the web etc... ) at about 55% brightness with like 35-40% left at the end of the day.. so if Moto doesnt have anything good out or on the horizon by like june ill probably just get a note 4 or wait for a note 5 (if samsung doesnt mess it up)
[Galaxy S6 General] tokuzumi:
While the droid turbo is a great phone, I'd avoid it like the plague. It's basically a verizon exclusive (will be released as the Droid Maxx 2, but not in the US), so any updates will be few and far between. Everyone who bought this phone initially was thinking "moto updates their phones quickly...this will be great!" But quickly realized it's the X,G, and E phones that were released globally that are getting the updates. The turbo is a niche device that verizon has basically already forgotten about.

I only consider purchasing flagship devices from any manufacturer, because I want device support. While I may buy year old flagships, they are still supported way more than niche and newly released mid-range devices.

But, based on what I've seen so far, the S6 is the device to beat this year.
[Galaxy S6 General] Applesexual:
All the other flagships this year will use either the 810 or the 815, both of which are manufactured on the same process node technology and have the same exact reference ARM CPU cores.

The only difference is that the 815 will be using a newer GPU.

The 815 will still have the same problems as the 810.

If you want a non-Samsung flagship, I suggest you wait next year around this month and day, as that is when they'll be using the SnapDragon 820, with Qualcomm's own custom CPU cores.

Of course by then, Samsung will also have their custom Exynos CPU and GPU cores.

Next year is going to be REALLY interesting.
[Galaxy S6 General] BBs19:
Well sorry but you haven't given us any good reason why not to buy the S6, you just say let's wait for Sony etc. and see what they bring out, so why not just wait till 2020, im sure there will be great new smartphones.

This thread is just a waste of our time.
[Galaxy S6 General] Applesexual:
Honestly, what's there to wait for?

We already know everything about LG, moto and SONY's flagships.

All will use the 810.

All will use displays VASTLY INFERIOR to the S6.

All will have bad battery life due to 810.

All won't have good build quality like the S6.

etc. etc.

The G4, Moto X, and Z4 will all just be the M9 with a different coating.
[Galaxy S6 General] furfmonkey:
your statement doesn't even make sense... its ok that you apparently like samsung phones but to assume and make such declarative statements is uninformed at best.. there are phones out right now with very good displays that aren't (in youyr words) "vastly" inferior .. i don't see anything saying all will use the 810, and assuming that again "all" will have bad battery life is ignorant at best.. you act like firmware and software updates will have 0 effect or that somehow companies are unaware of the issues and incapable of addressing them... seems like you are either blinded by the s6 or you are ignorant to how phones are developed

the next moto flagship isnt even going to be out for 5-6 months and yet you have already deemed if to be "vastly" inferior lol you are clearly blinded.. Funny thing is i never once bashed the s6 . if anything i said all the things people had issue with (glass back no sd card or removable battery) were just fine... have an open mind man
[Galaxy S6 General] furfmonkey:
waste of your time? no one made you read it or reply to it .. free country? wow there are some uptight entitle people here... either act like an adult or don't reply sheesh.. stupid me for thinking adults could talk about something without becoming belligerent or irrational
[Galaxy S6 General] omersak:
Spot on.

Seems like the only thing that'll best the S6 this year is the Note 5.

Which sucks because competition is important. I'd keep an eye on Huawei as their MediaTek's seem promising but I absolutely loathe their UI.
[Galaxy S6 General] avenging:
If u will wait for a better phone then wait for the note 5 or note edge 2
[Galaxy S6 General] robertc88:
There is lots of factors to be considered. If people want to go ahead and do done deals without even experiencing what they are buying, well ...

QHD in this display size?

Battery life?

Heat?

Bloat?

Memory Management?

TouchWiz?

I can just keep going on and on. Not a done deal for me by a long shot.
[Galaxy S6 General] Tommy-Geenexus:
What you are writing here is pointless trash which is worth nothing.

Half of these Phones aren't even announced yet, if you reduce them all to beeing bad because of using the 810, you are either paid by Samsung for spreading bullsh*t or simply have no technical knowledge. Or both together.
[Galaxy S6 General] robertc88:
I am interested in the S6, initial reviews are encouraging but one's own experience speaks loudest.

It is unbelievable how folks can just hypothetically spin a smartphone as their current end all solution without witnessing it first. If it works then fine as I realize folks aren't going to wait and see what rivals bring to the table.

Interested is one thing, done deal is quite another.
[Galaxy S6 General] derWolf_:
So far, like 90% of your posts in the S6 forum are complete BS, without any reasoning behind them.

The fact that all will use 810 is wrong, as LG is reportedly going to use its own, home made SoC for their G4.

About the displays I'm willing to agree, even though it is a matter of personal taste. Some like LCDs, some like AMOLEDs. Calling one of them VASTLY INFERIOR means absolutely nothing to anybody. IF I like LCDs more, do I care about technical specification? Hence do I care about AMOLED's vast superiority?

All will have bad battery life is ridiculous statement. The Z series is well known for its good battery life. Calling something bad, without even knowing its paper specification is simply stupid.

All won't have good build quality? REAALLYYY? What's wrong with htc's build quality (and don't give me that bullcr@p about the used old car said by some random guy)? Or what's wrong with Sony's build quality? Heck... or even LG's. All are well made phones. Calling one of them the best, without touching the rest is again.... simply stupid.

Basing your arguments SOLELY on the fact that they will use SD810 is..... leaving me in shock and terror. Or it's just that your technical knowledge is practically zero.

btw... you are probably the first guy I've met who has Apple in his nickname and praises Samsung like its his own company. Something is wrong here... there is glitch in the matrix:p
[Galaxy S6 General] Applesexual:
Sure, buddy. Whatever you say.

Yes, it's possible that LG could be using their own SoC for the G4, but they are still using reference ARM cores for the CPU and GPU.

Unless Samsung and LG struck a deal where LG gets to use Samsung's 14nm finfet fabs, LG's SoC will suffer from the same problems as Qualcomm's.

lol... AMOLEDs are now superior to LCD in everything ranging from color accuracy to energy efficiency.

Of course, you are free to like the washed-out, unnatural colors of your LCD phone.

Unless SONY is designing their own SoC and utilizing Samsung's 14nm finfet fabs, the Z4 will also suffer from bad battery life.

The thing is, all the other manufacturers have been giving it their best with build quality for several years now. Samsung only had bad build quality because they were the only company focusing on functionality over form. What makes you think their build quality will make leaps and match the S6's if their history shows their best is inferior to Samsung's best?

We see now that with Samsung concentrating on form over functionality, their phone build quality can't be beat. The S6's superior build quality is Samsung's true potential when they play by the same philosophy as other companies, and they are far above everyone else, especially other Android OEMs.

:crying::crying::crying:

You sound like one of those people who mocked Samsung's Exynos processors and are now pissed that they are the best this time around. What's even more infuriating for you is that Samsung doesn't want to share it with other companies.

Considering Apple's dog**** designs and inferior build quality to Samsung lately, I'm starting to change my views about Apple.
[Galaxy S6 General] tft:
so because other 2015 phones might have a qualcomm chip, they all suck now (even though they're not even out yet) so the S6 is automatically "better?"

not everyone buys phones simply for the best/fastest soc.. like really, who the f*ck needs 8+ cores when apps or games barely use more than a couple..
[Galaxy S6 General] Applesexual:
It's not just about having the best performance.

The 810 kills battery life and makes your phone overheat and/or crawl like a gingerbread device.
[Galaxy S6 General] karlleuang85:
i am thinking about s6 edge too , the double curved screen is a killer
[Galaxy S6 General] MiyagiSan:
[MENTION=6451701]Applesexual[/MENTION]: Now that you've re-read your own post, do you still stand by this line of reasoning.

You may want to ask yourself this: if the S6 had the internals and display of the S5 minus the sd card and IPxx rating etc but had this new sexy metal body, would your opinion of it and it's likely success be different?

.

Other than the HTC M9, what other Snapdragon 81x device do you know to have been overheating?. How many 81x devices have been released?

Your claims about battery life and crawl-like performance is spurious at best. Any evidence to support those claims?
[Galaxy S6 General] Applesexual:
Yeah, I still stand by that reasoning. Samsung never concentrated on design and build quality with its consumer devices because they were focusing on features and functionality and getting massive sales. They saw other companies concentrating on looks and build quality and making losses.

This is why their phones before the S6 had bad build quality and bland looks.

M9's overheating problem comes from the SnapDragon 810 and htc's refusal to throttle the CPU. Why? Because they don't want the device to LAG like the G Flex 2.
[Galaxy S6 General] equake:
Samsung certainly has differentiated themselves this year by going all their own parts unlike previous years with using Snapdragon so it's going to be a horse race.

I have No doubt that the s6 will be the leading Android flagship 2015 and will have the most 3rd party accessories.

My 2 cents
[Galaxy S6 General] :
Im dissapointed with the s6 and seems like a backwards step from the s5.

Not waterproof like the s5

No removable battery like the s5

No micro sd like the s5

I would need a 128gb model and i would refuse to pay a ridiculous price more for more memory. Sorry but unless the note 5 goes back to these features then samsung has lost me.
[Galaxy S6 General] MiyagiSan:
Your reasoning is flawed. Build quality is distinct from design and design quality. You are confused about the difference (more obviously in your previous post).

Design and build quality have always been important to Samsung. The S6 represent an evolution in design not a revolution. It looks like a Samsung phone, a Samsung Galaxy S phone, because it is one. The build quality remains as good as ever going by the reviews.

Question for you: If the S6 had the internals and display of the S5 minus the sd card and IPxx rating etc but had this new sexy metal body, what would be would your opinion of it and, how would you rate it's likely success in the market?. Why?

Or it may come from issues with the thermal envelope for the HTC M9's unibody. The 810 runs hotter than other chips is all we know. Throttling is an industry-wide practise - including the S6 - that can't be avoided given the asinine drive for

ever

thinner and smaller

and

faster

and

longer lasting devices. The LG G Flex 2 is plenty fast. Not the fastest ever but faster than most devices that came before it.

UPDATE: Added link to LG Flex 2 review to counter [MENTION=6451701]Applesexual[/MENTION]'s selective quoting...

- http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/lg-g-flex-2-1263346/review/2

- http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-g-flex-2-review-589241/

- http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/132891-lg-g-flex-2-review-is-curved-the-new-cool (most negative about performance)

- http://www.engadget.com/2015/02/18/lg-g-flex-2-review/
[Galaxy S6 General] Applesexual:
Yeah, that's right folks. The S6 Edge is just "an evolution" of previous galaxy S phones, even though the S6 Edge is arguably the most attractive device in the market right now and the S3, S4 and S5 are the most unattractive devices in the market.

In every poll about the S6, S6 Edge, and the M9, the S6 Edge takes 50% of the votes, with S6 and M9 both taking a mere 25%. Why would you think the S6 Edge would lead the S6 so much if it weren't the design? They both have the same specs.

No, the S6 Edge is a design revolution, and what pisses people and other companies off is that they can't copy it because it's too intellectually demanding for their engineers.

As for you question, the S6 would still be a success, considering 810 phones will have worse battery life, worse screen, LAAAAAAAAAAAAG AND STUTTER, and all the other problems with 810 phones.

Yes, I know every phone throttles after some time, but the G Flex 2 throttles way more than previous SnapDragon phones. It's not the throttling. It's the frequency of throttling.
[Galaxy S6 General] tokuzumi:
Examples of poor build quality? I'm talking about actual issues with the phone, not perceived build quality. I read and heard a lot about Samsung devices feeling cheap, but feeling cheap, and constructed with shoddy work methods are two different things. Samsung was definitely the former, and not the latter.
[Galaxy S6 General] Applesexual:
Build materials factor into build quality.

I remember quite a bit of squeaking that the S3 and S4 had in its plastic back cover.
[Galaxy S6 General] MiyagiSan:
Fallacy: Appeal to ridicule/popularity

That the S6 and the S6 Edge are the results of evolution in Samsung's design and not a revolution can be easily demonstrated. Note 4 Edge lends a lot to the S6 Edge.

Grab a few clear high-res pictures of the phone (particularly the front), remove any Samsung logo/name from pictures, show picture to owners of Samsung devices and ask them who they think made it. Then ask those who don't own Samsung devices. Repeat with a real S6 device if you can figure out a way of obstructing the Samsung logo/name.

Whether or not

you

find a device is "attractive" is an entirely subjective opinion. No point debating those with you (or anyone else for that matter). I think they are all "attractive" devices. Even the S5 with the silly fake chrome bezel...

In

your opinion

. A flawed opinion by any objective test but,

yours

nonetheless...

Why are you fixated on the Snapdragon 81x?. I asked about an hypothetical S6 that had last year's Exynos and Snapdragon internals but this year's unibody construction including the missing sd slot, a fixed smaller battery and no water/dust proofing?

In my view, such a device would sell millions too but, it would sell much less than the current actual S6 device compared to offerings from Apple, Sony, HTC, LG, Motorola etc. It will be slower than they are and reviewer would always remind their readers of that. It would still be a very good device - a kind of Galaxy Alpha

Alpha

. ;)

I don't know that it does throttle more as you claim. I do know that most reviewers don't comment on it nearly as much as you have done. It is just a damn fast device in their opinion...
[Galaxy S6 General] tokuzumi:
I'm going to reserve judgement on the 810, until devices start getting into people's hands. But, it appears Qualcomm has made a bad first impression with the Flex 2. This could be LG's fault, and we will find out in less than a month, when the M9 comes out. If the 810 turns out to be an "oopsie" by Qualcomm, they are going to find themselves in quite the financial predicament come 2016. They are going to have to do a lot of parlor tricks, and possibly perform sexual favors to get their silicone into the end user's hands. Again, I will wait until phones start going out in a few weeks, and we will see what happens.
[Galaxy S6 General] MiyagiSan:
Only rational way to proceed.

Don't confuse marketing with reality. The impressions began with Samsung's public and private statements...

My impression was that the M9 was the device that overheats. Not much has been written about the Flex2 and issues with Qualcomm chips.

Sexual favours.....silicone in end user's hands.....hilarious! :laugh:
[Galaxy S6 General] CLARiiON:
Some really weird threads. Here's a thought - next thread I might see is:

"Wants S6, then thinks about M9, but again wants S6 now. Maybe next Nexus??"

XDA never fails to amaze and entertain.
[Galaxy S6 General] Applesexual:
topkek...

The only thing similar design-wise for the S6 Edge and previous S-phones is the home screen button and the "SAMSUNG" logo at the top of the phone.

If you remove that logo and remove the home screen button, no one would know it's from Samsung.

The only reason why the S6 is getting so much attention right now is how much the other Android phones screwed up with the 810.

There really isn't anything special about the S6 except that it's using the highest-quality parts and is superior to the competition in every metric.

It's the reason why the PS4 is more successful than the Xbox ONE. Everyone expected Microsoft to win this generation easily, but the PS4 is dominating the Xbone in sales despite having nothing special because there is nothing the Xbone does better than the PS4 in.

Samsung could offer a phone plastered in dogcrap and it would still sell more than everyone except Apple if they named if the Galaxy S and put their marketing behind it.

They don't comment on it, because they don't want to get on Qualcomm and LG's bad side.

It's obvious to anyone who isn't blind that the G Flex 2 lags like the first Android phones. Inside the press rooms, all the workers are laughing at how much of a failure that 810 phones are and how much they lag and suck. Publicly, they'd never say those things, because they don't want to be blacklisted by manufacturers.
[Galaxy S6 General] MiyagiSan:
Not interested in whether

you think

other people would be able to identify the S6 as a Samsung device. My hypothesis is testable and I gave an example of a simple test.

You are fond of hyperbole....

....and trolling.
[Galaxy S6 General] barondebxl:
Was going to get the S6 but I think the note 4 is a better option. The battery life on the S6 does not look to be promising.
[Galaxy S6 General] zathus:
It was first written off as marketing because LG denied there was an overheating issue. Then later LG said there was, but they fixed it. The flex2 gets released. Gets reviewed.. No one is impressed by the performance. Fast forward to the HTC m9. Performance is great but it's gets really hot (130f plus is insane for out side temp) so both sd810 phones are severely flawed.

I'm all for being optimistic but the only 2 examples don't instil confidence.
[Galaxy S6 General] tft:
HTC just announced that there is suppose to be a software update to address heating issue... i highly doubt qualcomm would have release the 810 chip that easy overheats knowing they'll now be competing with Exynos.. could just be kernel tweaks or something buggy in the software causing the problem. guess once people start looking more at the kernel/software they'll be able to tell if the fix was some kind of throttling (which i doubt HTC would intentionally do to address the problem).. http://bgr.com/2015/03/19/htc-one-m9-overheating/

also, HTC announced that they will replace any M9 for any reason whatsoever, no questions asked within the first year of purchase..

http://www.cnet.com/news/htc-we-will-replace-your-one-m9-no-questions-within-first-year/

lets see if samsung ever does something like that..
[Galaxy S6 General] Applesexual:
The reason why no other Android OEM can match Samsung is that all of them and their fanboys waste their creative energy in making up ridiculous conspiracy theories about the big, bad Samsung. Notice that I didn't mention just their fanboys; I'm also including the companies themselves. Remember that stupid "operation Kill Taiwan" conspiracy theory a few years back?

It just seems to be getting worse every year, with this year's conspiracy theory of Samsung trying to kill Qualcomm and all other Android OEMs taking the cake.

If only other companies and their fanboys actually used their creativity to make something like the S6 Edge, their companies would be doing better.

Conspiracy theories like Samsung being part of the illuminati and participating in child ritualistic sacrifices, while creative, aren't the type of creativity that'll generate profits.
[Galaxy S6 General] MiyagiSan:
I agree that the M9's overheating reports and the impression that Samsung's statements (and snubbing of the 81x) created is an issue for Qualcomm.

I don't agree with your statement about the LG Flex2's performance. I posted a few reviews earlier where performance wasn't generally flagged as an issue. It is plenty fast enough.

I like to think I'm pragmatic. If an issue is confirmed that affects typical usage across 81x devices, the 81x should and would get the coverage it deserves. Till then, the M9 overheats is the only confirmed issue.