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[One (M9) General] vRS Carl:
Ok well I'll take a picture of the phone tomorrow and post up then when I get home. I'd post a screenshot of my email but it has my address on it.

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In fact here is the text I received. I have cropped the bottom off as it has the order details on.
[One (M9) General] th3:
I don't doubt you [emoji6]

I'm miffed that you're getting one before me (I've paid for mine from HTC)

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[One (M9) General] vRS Carl:
Knowing my luck the wife will go into labour (due a week on Sunday) and I won't be able to get it until next week! [emoji57]
[One (M9) General] grrrr_unt:
All the best to you and your wife! :)
[One (M9) General] LeeDroid:
Got mine today! Already dumped and modding ?
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
Let us know how it is
[One (M9) General] LeeDroid:
Personally.... I had a play a few weeks back & was impressed, bearing in mind that was a pre release preview running 1.30, had a few concerns with camera although there was clearly improvements coming.

Been using it for almost 12 hours today and I have to say I have 0 concerns, camera is great, Dolby audio is outstanding, no heat issues as stated in the press & the responsiveness is unmatched.

The latest ota solved the previously mentioned heat issues and also brought with it big improvements in the camera, I had to take the previous and new base and compare out of curiosity?

All in all i would definitely recommend it to anyone as an upgrade, coming from the m8 its still a worthy move.
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
Playing for 12 hours how's battery life after that?
[One (M9) General] Genetic517:
Mind sharing some battery details? :fingers-crossed:
[One (M9) General] LeeDroid:
Been modding, pulling dumping and wiping guys so stats wouldn't give any kind of a true reflection... Its definitely better than the m8 & will improve more so once my ROM is ready..

At work tomorrow using it as my daily so will have a better view then.. bear in mind im never off the thing lol
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
Thanks we will be waiting. Are you creating a custom rom?
[One (M9) General] th3:
Been following you since the Desire.... You smashed it there [emoji106]

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[One (M9) General] LeeDroid:
Started last night mate, most of the tweaks porting is also already complete as we ported all M9 apps to the M8.

Seriously guys, if you have doubt about the M9, squash them , its a fantastic device
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Thanks Leedroid!

Are you already building a Rom? :D

Camera is certainly better in daylight compared to M8 but compared to Note4, S6 and iphone 6 it's lacks lot of details when cropping and 100% opening the photos, they should have chosen this Toshiba lens 6-9 months ago to master it and not last minute, it was a huge error from HTC
[One (M9) General] J10BLN:
Can you let us know what your conclusion on battery life is plz :o
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
I will squash them once you give us some battery life details
[One (M9) General] LeeDroid:
Still not done a full charge just snippets? its a touch better than the m8 but that's all the detail I have at the moment.

Bear in mind guys, battery life on every device will be different depending on a number of variables including.... light that affects auto brightness, how much and what you use, mobile signal quality being one of the biggest impacting factors, data type used, I.e 4G is more power hungry than 3g as it uses a higher frequency, 3g higher than 2g for the same reason... And with this in mind your provider could massively positively or negatively impact battery duration as could being in different buildings.. the worse the signal, the more the device searches and this leads to higher power consumption...GPS configuration, apps installed etc. will also impact everyone differently.

I never understood the whole battery life obsession people have. I have never had more than 14 hours from any phone as I am constantly using it.

To dismiss a few rumours and bull, Custom roms improve battery life as lots of background logging and debugging stuff gets removed and that's really the only reason it improves.. any claims other than that and kernel mods are bull.

Seriously guys, its better then the m8 & the CPU is much more efficient, I have no gripes at all, not going to post gsam battery history or HTC battery history because in the real world it means nothing
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
Thanks for the post, but i think what all of us are worried about is every single review that is out there says the battery is not as good as the predecessor. I mean if it was just a few reviews saying that then ok. but when you have a multitude of big known reviews saying the same thing it makes you scratch your head and think. EVEN if everybody has different variables why are all the reviewers who are across the world saying its not as good?
[One (M9) General] th3:
When top reviews show 2 hour loss from the M8 in some common situations, you have reason to be worried.

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[One (M9) General] LeeDroid:
I think the key issues here were caused by HTC making a massive marketing mistake, allowing reviewers to review pre-release and debug builds, its cast a lot of inaccurate doubt over what is essentially a fantastic device.

Thunk about it in scientific terms, a more efficient chip set & CPU, the same screen as its predecessor & a highter powered battery, a decrease in battery life could have only been put down to software / firmware, the device its self has had several updates since the review builds ?
[One (M9) General] vRS Carl:
Not even turned mine on yet. Currently on charge to start with a full battery. :)

I always do this and it seems to give me better battery life than the average review.
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
IM still waiting on one more review and thats the grandaddy of them all MKBHD he gives the best reviews non bias at and he takes his time.
[One (M9) General] LeeDroid:
And for the record guys. I totally agree, the reviews SUCKED lol.. but that was a marketing fail on HTCs part
[One (M9) General] LeeDroid:
Looking forward to it mate, i'm loving it
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
let us know how it goes at the end of the day

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you know i was thinking about that when all these negative reviews were coming out and i blamed it on the qualcomm processor but you really believe its just software? the processor is more efficient you believe?
[One (M9) General] MSIOCGenie:
According to Anandtech HTC removed panel self refresh, something that would affect battery life negatively.
[One (M9) General] LeeDroid:
Take a look at the Snapdragon 810 spec on the Qualcomm website, network drains are always a massive factor but should effectively improve with the 4th gen LTE multimode transceiver. low end tasks are handled by the lower powered A53 quad core chipset meaning most background tasks will consume less power than they would on the M8, less demand on the A57 CPU for high end tasks once again means less power consumption.

Its obviously all theoretical but if HTC get it right its a win win situation.

I would be particularly impressed if quick charge 2.0 and WiPower wireless charging is activated as it is supported by the chipset.

Edit: apparently WiPower is not possible due to the metal unibody which is a shame
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
Then i look forward to future software updates and your rom mate.
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
That's what I was thinking. Battery life had to be on software. Every price of hardware is more efficient. How could battery be worse? Now how is the heat issue on the CPU? HTC said they fixed it, but other than physically altering the device, the only other things that could be done were down clocking the cpu or setting really low thermal thresholds So it throttles a lot. Which is it?

Imo, an 8 core cpu is WAY WAY overkill for a phone. A nice high spec quad-core clocked at 3ghz would be more efficient For a phone.
[One (M9) General] LeeDroid:
No heat concerns whatsoever since the last OTA and I did do a little testing before installing it, can't see any performance losses or any visible throttling although not had chance to look into that properly yet, HTC have not clarified what caused the overheating, it could have simply been down to poor configuration and or Inefficient coding
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
Gotcha. Cpu is still running at the full 2ghz?

The heat issue also came up with the gflex 2 and they said they have solved it. Qualcomm was VERY quick to release the 815 with a statement t that said it runs cooler than the 810.

I mean, as of now from what you are telling me, my only concern is the battery life.
[One (M9) General] th3:
Don't worry, colby brown and dpreview will be reviewing the camera side soon. And you probably know about my M8 battery life, so....

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[One (M9) General] LeeDroid:
Confirmed

Had to dig around as none of the CPU info apps seem to pull back the correct stats for the A57
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
Interesting. I wonder what they did. I just find it so strange that both HTC and LG had the issue and somehow software fixed it. The m9+ is rumored to have the MediaTek MT6795T cpu Instead of the 810.
[One (M9) General] LeeDroid:
More than likely a code issue messing up priorities or causing unnecessary spikes.. it does get a little warm under heavy load such as running benchmarks but no more than the M8 did
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
I did a quick test on my M8. is there any way you Can find out temps?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=59665565&postcount=48

Also, u think that battery performance and camera will improve a lot over some software updates?
[One (M9) General] LeeDroid:
Unfortunately temp doesn't appear to be being reported via sysfs. Camera improvements have already been seen in the latest update and im positive that further improvements are possible
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
Gotcha. Alright, I think you just convinced me. come April 10th I'll see if I'm getting the m9+, m9, our sticking with my m8
[One (M9) General] The Great Dane:
Let´s hope your right on that one:D
[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
Well that's encouraging. Thought it was set to 1.6
[One (M9) General] th3:
AFAIK they've got only changed the governor threshold limits and time skew.

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[One (M9) General] grrrr_unt:
HTC has replied to my feedback that they'll send it to the relevant department and improve on the camera :)
[One (M9) General] th3:
More bad news. This year will be very tough for HTC, the M9 will sell poorly and they know they fd up big time.

"Jonah Becker, who oversaw the development of the newly released HTC One M9 smartphone, is the second head of design to leave the company in less than a year"

http://www.cnet.com/news/another-year-another-htc-lead-designer-leaves-company/

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[One (M9) General] rkial:
How is that bad news? He came in after the M8 and was in charge of designing the M9.. The design is still great.. but it has little to do with him..
[One (M9) General] th3:
It has everything to do with him. He was in charge of its development/design decisions.

The reason CEO and now he goes is very obvious to the business world. You'll see, give it 6 months...

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[One (M9) General] BoneXDA:
How do you monitor CPU clock speed during benchmarks and normal apps?
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
I dont think apps support it yet, but trickster, or a status bar cpu monitor app.
[One (M9) General] Super Chimp:
The damage is now done and the reputation of the device is damaged, it will be hard to repair this error.
[One (M9) General] SPreston2001:
Yeah I'll probably still pick up a M9 in the coming months but I agree I think its going to be a tough year for HTC. I don't think the M9 will sell very well considering the wildely more popular S6 seems to have hit it out of the park and brought something totally new. The M9 is a great device but when it comes to cutting edge technology, it just doesnt deliver. HTC still has the build quality and skin crowns, but when it comes to excitement and innovation they just don't seem to have it. Long time HTC fans like myself may appreciate what they offer but to the average Joe the S6 will grab their attention before the M9 will.
[One (M9) General] Slaughter59:
Hi! I'm new here :)

Juste found a new "review " : m8 vs m9 with photo test, and gaming test.

frandroid.com/marques/htc/275755_comparatif-one-m8-one-m9

If you need some translation let me know. (Sorry for not posting full link, first post so I can't..)
[One (M9) General] jkcarp94:
I think you drastically overestimate the number of people that will eventually own this phone that read tech blogs and phone reviews. The vast majority of people that will own this phone are going to walk into a phone store not even aware that something called the M9 came out.
[One (M9) General] SPreston2001:
Yeah but you also have to think about all the store reps that typically recommend Galaxy and Apple devices. I remember before I got my M8 every store rep tried to sell me either the S5 or the 5s. Luckily me being a HTC fan I pretty much already knew what I wanted but people typically buy the phone they see their friends with or the one thats the most popular and well known. HTC phones arent usually filled with gimmicky sell features so its harder to convince people to buy them when they see it next to a trendy Apple phone or a galaxy device that can track ur eyeballs and check ur heart rate etc. I love the minimalistic approach HTC takes but a lot of times that doesn't translate into huge sales.
[One (M9) General] combat goofwing:
I agree your average Joe will buy it based on looks mainly followed by BoomSound and great selfies
[One (M9) General] TwistyValhalla:
I see a few people asking about monitoring CPU. I find Trepn Profiler to be quite useful.

https://developer.qualcomm.com/mobile-development/increase-app-performance/trepn-profiler
[One (M9) General] Super Chimp:
But has it now got the looks compared to the S6.
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
The average buyer in my country doesn't even know HTC exists!

I am eager to see the review of MobileReview the infamous Russian web, he take tons of camera shots and compare them with closest rival
[One (M9) General] AndreiLux:
The CPU is absolutely not more efficient. Basically the opposite of what you just said is true. Claiming that logging has effect on battery is the real snakeoil here.
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
I hope that new logic, blobs, etc will give the 810 at least a fighting chanse. I probably will get the M9 anyway because I like the devs here and the phone itself is just a charm. But... A shame about the start, M7 and M8 is easily the smoothest and best phones I used, mostly because HTC knows how to optimize it's firmware. Looking at you Samsung :)

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[One (M9) General] BoneXDA:
All right, 4 shots I've just taken. HDR works quite strongly, which is a benefit in scene one but too much in scene two. A bit overexposed IMO, resulting in lower contrast than I'd prefer. What do you think?

edit: darn it, wrong thread
[One (M9) General] Th3Bill:
LG isn't new to thermal issues in their devices. I had the Optimus G back when it first came out. Would heat up terribly at random while fully inactive (like just sitting in my pocket, no apps running). If I recall correctly, it was kernel related and was fixed about 6 months after device release.

Doesn't surprise me that HTC ran into this given the rush it seems was put on the device to announce at MWC. I really think that haste did the device's rep a lot of damage. Between the reports of a substandard camera experience in early reviews and the thermal issues, this device will have a tough time pushing the S6 out of the way (or the to-be-announced G4 or whatever iteration of Moto X comes out this summer, let along up and comers like OnePlus, Oppo, and rumored Xiaomi devices coming to US). Both of those issues should have been seen and corrected before an announce or at the very least before any review handsets were sent out. I think they tried to get the device out before Samsung to create a buzz and ended up creating all the wrong kind of buzz.

I SOO wanted to fall in love with the M9. I had the M7 and M8, and went for the Note 4 when I changed service providers (mainly for the supposedly great camera). I miss having an HTC with Sense, as TW sucks and the Note 4 for all it's supposed power is a very laggy device. Hopefully M9+ will come to US and will be what the M9 should have been and all of us HTC fans can rejoice
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
Yes. Sometimes I think that lag is a feature and not a bug in Sammy phones. The worst thing with N4 is for me the slowdowns, probably throttling.

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[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
They say latest lollipop update on N4 fix all lags, did you try it?
[One (M9) General] Th3Bill:
Not available on T-Mobile yet. Funny thing is that opening the gallery from the camera app is so slow, I could take a picture, go to gallery, return to camera, and take another pic on the M8 before the N4 would even get to the gallery.
[One (M9) General] zaaye:
HTC One M9 Review! Android Authority: https://youtu.be/3M6h8EZxumA
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
I'm using it right now and it's a Samsung so the lag, hiccups, slowness and throttle is still here. It's better, but not good enough.

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[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
I see were in the same position currently with a note 4 looking at a m9 lol.
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
I'm feed up with the lag of TW. It's not as bad as it been but my Chinese phones, not known for optimization, and my N5 runs in cirkels around. I have had M7 and M8, and whatever fault those may have had they are fast, smooth and beautiful, exactly what I want a flagship to be. I'll wait a couple of firmware until I decide because battery life and cam is important. HTC getting the cam of the year is probably not ever going to happen, but it has to be good enough.

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[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
yeah i just want a smaller phone. I thought i would like a phablet but there not for me I am going to miss the battery tho. theres no way the m9 will be able to touch the notes battery lol
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
No, thats for sure :)

The best phones I had for battery so far is G2, 1+1 and Note 4.

Back to good enough again :)

Let's see what the Batterythread says when another firmware and wider userbase is on
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
I tried the N4 and Note Edge in a samsung showroom, I didn't find lags and it wasn't updated to LP yet, TW is not as well done as Sense 7 which is the king of all UI (included ios and MS) but with the help of a good third party launcher it can be very good.

My analysis about the M9 based on actual infos and reviews:

+ Sense 7

+ Sound quality

+ UI speed

- Camera is good in the 2013's standard ( I was expecting something much better after 2 years of crappy 4mp)

- Design! For an HTC user of 1 year with M7 and 1 year with M8, I a bored by this design

- Battery

- Screen size or resolution, for me who have a slight blurry vision at close objects (astigmatism) reading the much sharper fonts thanks to QHD is a joy on N4, HTC didn't update their 3 years old SLCD 3 screen.

All and all the HTC M9 would have been the king of Android phones back in 2013 as it uses 2 even 3 years old tech and standards
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
to tell you the truth I had to pick between the s6 edge and htc one m9 and the ONLY reason I mean Only reason im picking m9 is because the possibilities of it being a great phone in the future based on future software updates android 5.1 and our htc development community is very strong. I know the devs are going to dig there teeth into this phone and make it a Great phone and Great Battery life because the hardware is already there to make the battery good 5 in HD phone 2840 mah battery. Its just the software thats holding it back.
[One (M9) General] J10BLN:
I agree, so long as it's not the 810 chip that's the problem
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
Lags as a subject is subjective, but you need to own it, use it and load it upp with your normal apps to notice I suppose. Trust me when I say it lags, in about the same way as all the Sammy-phones I've owned, my standard is Nexus, Earlier One series and iOs on iPhone 6. But... It's a good phone with a great battery life and whats good 4 me is probably not as good for someone else. :)

The reason I should pick the the One, if I find it good enough, is because they have kept a "normal" resolution, and because i just love the form. By now I've had two phones with higher resolution and both of them just don't have the GPU or battery to drive all those pixels, especially the G3.
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
Then were all f****ed lol
[One (M9) General] SC300ES:
Phandroid review is up

http://phandroid.com/2015/03/30/htc-one-m9-review-video/
[One (M9) General] Sachinfan:
that's lot of optimism, considering the amount a customer is paying....
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
I don't know where your located but the m9 is the least expensive phone coming out in the USA
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
It's about choices, they all expensive and you have to pick the right One :)

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[One (M9) General] J10BLN:
in the UK they are the same price as the S6 32GB
[One (M9) General] SPreston2001:
I think once the M9 hits stores imma go into T-Mobile and pick one up. I'm not 100% happy with HTC this time around but I can't abandon my love for them lol. I've been using the Note 4 and even with it being rooted it still lags and has hiccups here n there. My M8 never had issues like that and I'm sure that's just the difference between Sense and TouchWiz.
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
The sad truth

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[One (M9) General] th3:
Newer reviews are out... And everything is slamming the M9.

One of my favs, DigitalVersus is posting the M9 review this week.

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[One (M9) General] melihcarter:
In Turkey it's 1200 usd! I mean that's technically because of the bad economy of course but still that's a lot of money and every HTC fan I am talking to in Turkey is slowly deciding not to buy M9, mostly because of the price and the problems that phone is having currently. That's really sad!

Also in Germany it's 750 euros which is more expensive than USA price

:(
[One (M9) General] LeeDroid:
If you guys haven't given Dolby a run yet.. give this a whirl in theater mode

Dolby Atmos Amaze Theatrical Sound System Trailer HD-Enhanced: https://youtu.be/TlSLbfhVod8
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Did you implemented it on your M8'a Rom?
[One (M9) General] LeeDroid:
Can't be done and any claims to that effect are rubbish mate, its firmware dependent ?

I have a feeling the hardware is a little different too but hard to say
[One (M9) General] jauhien:
OMG.. what's f*cking going on!? where can I download that particularly missing hardware - a.s.a.p. ?

It's not a joke BTW.. :D :D :D
[One (M9) General] Jaa-Yoo:
GSM Arena M9-vs-S6

vs its predecessor, the m9 is a marginal upgrade at best, and even worse in some areas.

vs the S6 though......................i really cant cheer for htc this time around. :(
[One (M9) General] kolembo:
I have to hand it to HTC though, this phone is still an excellent phone, and they're releasing a plus version with qHD.

I think they'll resolve their software issues... I just don't know if they'll sell enough phones.
[One (M9) General] th3:
Similar: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-S6-vs-HTC-One-M9_id3975

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[One (M9) General] peca_slo:
M9 has been cracked :D
[One (M9) General] Cryosx:
Custom firmware here we come :)