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[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nickchapstick:
So I have never purchased a Google play version of a phone before so I am wondering something.

I always root and install ROMs on my phones and I have only had non-nexus devices and know that installing a sprint ROM on a Verizon phone makes it not work correctly... So if I buy a Google play version can I install Verizon ROMs since I'm on the Verizon network?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david279:
Both are the same. Roms work on all networks.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nickchapstick:
So the only difference is that I will have different firmware files to use if I bootloop and such?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] br125:
No difference. All Google nexus 6 factory images can be flashed on any nexus 6. They are all identical.

Only thing with Verizon is that they will not add any other nexus 6 to their system. It will work, but you will see that you are using a non vzw device when you log into your account
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JulesJam:
I bought mine from Motorola so that I could get the Motocare policy. The issues with buying a non-Verizon branded N6 are the following:

1) Verizon reps won't be able to activate a Verizon nano SIM in the device - so you would need to use an already activated SIM card to get the device active on your line - this can be done by activating a nano SIM in a Verizon branded phone that uses a nano SIM or by cutting down an existing micro SIM card;

2) If you deal with Verizon instead of Google or Motorola for warranty issues, you are going to get a Verizon branded 32GB Midnight Blue N6 as a replacement regardless of whether or not you have the light grey or the 64GB N6 - so IMO, dealing with Verizon is not an option;

3) Asurion insurance likely won't replace your device with a non-Verizon branded N6 should you need to use insurance coverage so again, you would be getting a 32GB Midnight Blue Verizon N6 as a replacement regardless of what device you actually have on the line if you pay for Asurion insurance;

4) Asurion insurance may not cover your device at all since your line will just show Non-Verizon Device on it - hence another the reason I bought from Motorola directly and bought the MotoCare policy;

5) To get HD Voice/Advance Calling/VoLTE active on your line, you would need to first put a Verizon branded device that is VoLTE eligible on your line to add it as a feature or search the forum for other ideas on how to do it; and

6) People with More Everything plans and the month-to-month or Edge discount on their lines are having trouble getting the discount to stick even after the reps add it to their lines.

I had a Moto X on my line, which uses a nano SIM card so I had no issues with #1. I bought the MotoCare policy so I have eliminated issues #2-#4 for myself. I used an iP6 to get VoLTE added to my line and have a legacy nationwide plan so issues #5 and #6 aren't problems for me.

I haven't yet flashed to 5.1 so I can't test the VoLTE yet but others say it works and I will do that soon and report back my results.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A2CKilla:
There's no "carrier" version, there's a nexus 6 made by motorola, endorsed by Google, that's it, your particular carrier may sell said device on their network, but it's not their device or their variant, there are two variants, a US model and an international model and even then, there's literally only a band availability difference. All nexi are the same phone not matter who's providing the service for it
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nickchapstick:
Awesome I appreciate all the replies and I have the info I needed. Thanks for being educational.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisgrim:
Right basically I got a g2 a couple of weeks ago and loved it but it started developing call issues where the person on the other end couldn't hear me very well or I sounded muffled (I swapped phones with someone during a call and it did sound awful) now I've tried the tutting noise cancellation thing of in call settings and a blast of compressed air.

but I was wondering if when I changed the battery a few days ago whether I may have dislodged something slightly and was wondering if anyone knew exactly where the mic was and what to look for. Now I don't mind changing the mic and everything else over as it was fairly easy doing the battery but thought I'd ask on here before ordering more parts
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hootowlserenade:
Do you have ok google from any screen turned on? I had the same problem, but after I turned off that option my calls are back to normal.

Sent from my Xposed G2
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisgrim:
Ah not tried that one will give it a go, cheers
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mackster248:
I have the same problem, but it only happens when I'm taking to them while laying down (thus the phone is parallel to the ground).

Are you laying down when this happens?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisgrim:
Thank you that appears to have done the trick might have to look into it though seems a bit daft offering a feature that messes up your calls, and I quite liked having it... Battery replaced, new white back cover on, next up is to try root it again and chuck cyanogen on it
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisgrim:
No, but I do like the idea of my phone being lazy though and not working properly because it's lying down
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hootowlserenade:
I'd like to see a software patch that disables google now when a call is in progress... Pointless to be talking to someone and they hear you say "ok google" anyway... Maybe the solution is on Google's side of the equation. Shouldn't google be able to make some code telling the service to stop when a call is in progress, then reactivate once the call has ended? The service is pretty much useless during a call anyway, unless you want the other party to hear what you're searching google for.

Sent from my Xposed G2
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uiuc08:
Messes up the stock alarm too
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisgrim:
I wonder what else it had messed up as I noticed since turning it off I've got track info back on my car stereo when I connect my phone, like you said gotta be a Google fix and not lg, no point having it if it is gonna cause issues
[HTC Tornado] dm251z:
Hey,

I am personally just bursting with excitement over the possibility of getting WM6 on my tornado, even though (like most folks) I doubt that I have any ability to contribute technically to the effort. So, just to get my ideas out, without cluttering the "Official WM6 thread", I started this one. This is so people who really know what they are doing don't have to screw with the clutter, unless they want to.

So, my first hope for the new ROM--I doubt that there could have been much improvement to crappy Windows Media Player, so my suggestion is that that be removed, and replaced with TCPMP.
[HTC Tornado] juan3211:
Why not customize instalation

Sorry about my english, but why not a customize instalation ?

Like WINDOWS, you can choose in advance what aplication you want, or similar thing, like, they can generate a lot of roms with english an other language in order to save space. I will only install the rom with english and spanish.

Also, I prefer that Pocket Office will be included in the rom that you are cocking.

Thanks
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
Ok, plan at the moment... English ONLY ROM with various language packs (including t9) that will be available as CABs for separate installation to save precious storage. The 'vanilla' ROM (no t9, no task manager, no office, no camera) only has around 19mb of storage to play with :S

Office will be available as a CAB, again to save space. WMP has been improved with support for the creating and saving of playlists on the device. TCPMP MAY be embedded depending on how many people prefer it over WMP.

As for other stuff, I'm open to ideas, it's really up to YOU how you want this ROM to work and what's in it (within reason of course ;))

BTW good idea to start a new thread for requests in the ROM (useful for saving clutter ;)) :D I'll link to this in my original post in 'The Official WM6 Thread' :)

Phil
[HTC Tornado] Dishe:
TCMP only is a BAD IDEA!

Error post... disregard. Next post covers everything I wanted to say.
[HTC Tornado] Dishe:
TCMP only is a BAD IDEA!

I love TCMP, but it can't replace WMP.

Yeah, TCMP is a better player for just about everything, but there are certain things that I still need to use WMP for.

For example, streaming media is a nightmare for me in TCMP because of certain proxy servers I use. WMP shares IE's proxy settings, so if IE can see the internet, WMP can, whereas TCMP can't.

Also, I've run across some weird files (high bitrate aac's) that froze TCMP, but WMP skips over the corrupted portion and keeps playing.

Yes, TCMP is great, but not at the cost of WMP. Please, don't take it out.

Personally, just install TCMP on a storage card, and everyone should be fine!

While we're on it...

You say that you're going to make office a .cab optional installation.

Interesting... Hey, this is a long shot, but is there any way we could try that with a WM5 device? I'm really just looking for office mobile, so if there was a way to extract that and make it work on wm5, that would be AMAZING.

I know, there's probably some propietary WM6-only stuff that would prevent it from working, but thought I would ask.
[HTC Tornado] psybill:
Ι think that there is no one here prefers WMP over TCPMP (or Core Player) but there is no reason include it in the rom. As you said the storage memory in Tornado is valuable and I like like your idea to give us language packs in seperate cab files. I only need English and Greek pack.

Also Office and Adobe LE have already ported from rom and work fine in storage card, so no need to be in rom.

keep on good work, can't wait!!:D
[HTC Tornado] iron1:
i believe that the applications that are to be put in the rom are the standard ones... cause like everyone has said memory is so valuable... and besides you can install tcmp to it anytime you want but you cant install wmp if you take it out... to say replace wmp with tcmp in my opinon is selfish...

oh and i would like to recommend to map the media buttons (Short_AP1-4.lnk's i think) like those on the imate sp5m,qtek8300 and t-mobile sda as default... most roms even the custom iphone dropped this... cause its a nice feature of the tornadoes... and if those arent the "would be" users preference its easy to remap it with something else but remapping it to a rom that dosent support it (like the c500 rom) is really hard... just my 2 cents...
[HTC Tornado] dm251z:
I suppose there is a use for WMP...I do use it to play drm-protected (license only) wma files. but maybe coreplayer can get licenses? I suppose if we have to have wmp, tcpmp will stay on the storage card. no complaints.

I do hope that a2dp support exists in the new rom. That is something I can't live without.

With regards to the media player buttons...that would of course be different between 8310/sp5 and 8300/sp5m. It is easy enough to customise those in existing wm5 roms, but I wonder what version of tornado this rom is coming from?
[HTC Tornado] Lovetz:
Sorry for my poor english. Is it real to do that new rom will be unlocked passing over in silence? That will be handy to use. My opinion that there is no reason to include in rom those application that can be installable by the separete cab files. Every one can decide what to install by itself. I think there is no need to include in rom WML or pocket MSN, original file manager and task manager. Every one can decide what to use. Thanks.
[HTC Tornado] iron1:
good point lovetz... making them installable cabs would save alot of memory... and yes the file explorer from the rom does suck ends! maybe our chefs could do that...

and yes i hope they put in a2dp support!!! good bye wires!!!
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
I personally prefer a clean ROM with stable Radio version. Just put in all the default softwares that a typical WM6 device will have to make it 'real' and pure WM6. Then from there, users can choose what they want to install. Perhaps put some options so that softwares like File Explorer, WMP can be uninstalled from the Remove Programs part
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
Few updates for you :)

A2DP - built into the ROM already

Office for WM5 - HERE

WMP will be staying and TCPMP will be packaged as a CAB :)

Phil
[HTC Tornado] Lovetz:
Whether the FrameWork.NET will be built-in this rom? And what version if will be.
[HTC Tornado] paggps:
Completely agree with this opinion: a "clean and stable" standard WM6 ROM. Everything else goes to Storage Card. Thank you for a great job !
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
WM6 is using AKU3 and NETCF2, even if its not, now we have the option to install NETCF2 into storage card directly, just download the latest NETCF2 SP2 and choose to install at storage card
[HTC Tornado] Lovetz:
karhoe I already have this version of FW.NET on my SD. I'm interesting in this, koz i need more free space in new rom. Is it possible to remove this application from rom?
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
It's possible yeah but why would you want to? If I ripped it out of the ROM then I'd have to put in .NET CF 1.1 and you wouldn't save any space at all...

Phil
[HTC Tornado] dwest218:
This will be incredible if I am able to load WM6 on my Tornado. I would have no problem sending a Paypal donation? Thanks for taking our suggestion on how to make this better and is awfully kind. My only question is whether there will be a Qtek 8300, Imate SP5m version and a Qtek 8310, Imate SP5 version also?
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
There will be a .zip with the relevant shortcuts for each model in it that you just need to unzip to the /Windows folder on your device...

As for paypal, I'll add a donation link when i get round to setting up a paypal account/remembering my password ;)

Phil
[HTC Tornado] Lovetz:
If you remove .NETCF from rom, all can install it to SD by themselfs using cab file. This will free more space in rom. I'm about that this app. can be installed from separate cab file to the SD card, not to the main memory as if it be in rom.
[HTC Tornado] G-Max:
Hello, i'm from Russia and we are waiting WM 6 for Qtek 8310 too. Here is some interesting information. This is http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/articles/wm6-standart.shtml rewiev of WinMobile 6.0 on Russian version of Mobile-rewiev.com. In this review there are links to videofiles where work of system in different modes is shown. If to look narrowly that it is possible to understand, that the device it used in the review QTEK 8310!!!! Improbably! The author of the review on e-mail has confirmed, that it is the truth and it received the official test version of rom for Qtek 8310!!!

Sorry, if my bad English.
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
We all already know that there are test ROMS for 8310, WM6 was tested on some HTC phones, one of them which is our HTC Tornado, however, the ROM was never released, until one of them leaked it to our ROM cookers who is currently trying to remove the build-id to protect his source
[HTC Tornado] lixxus:
so its all working and installs and everthing ?

u just need to remove the build numbers ?

could u post some screen shots please then of it on the phone.

gives us hope
[HTC Tornado] kartam:
screenshots will always be like WM6

I'd better see photos of Tornado w/WM6 ;]
[HTC Tornado] revanmj:
i would like to see photos of wm 6 on tornado too :)
[HTC Tornado] vlodeck:
There you go:
[HTC Tornado] anandoc:
That picture looks so photoshopped. Not that I dont believe you guys, but a picture or two of Tornado running WM6 would be awesome !
[HTC Tornado] giuseppebitonti:
any news with progress? do you fix someone other?..

do you found a solution to delete the build number?
[HTC Tornado] dbshane:
a wm6 rom for Typhoon has been released. When can we get a tornado rom...:confused:

btw: the Typhoon rom is here. Maybe it will help?
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
You can watch the mobile-review WM6 review, they reviewed it using tornado
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
Because I'm feeling nice today, I'm in the process of taking some photo's for all of you to drool over ;)

Phil
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
Pics :)

Phil
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
More pics :)

Phil
[HTC Tornado] mastermind278:
*Drools* Looks so nice!!

Can't wait till it is released!
[HTC Tornado] djp3k05:
looks great. thanks 4 preview.waiting to come on my phone.
[HTC Tornado] kartam:
don't count for too much until they'll remove build number

isn't just hexediting coredll.dll? or it's something deeper?
[HTC Tornado] c4software:
Thanks for Pics :)
[HTC Tornado] anandoc:
Thanks for the pics. Just waiting for it to come to my hands :)
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
How many times must it be mentioned, there will be no file explorer in the VANILLA VERSION !!!

@jm012a9749 - What phone are you using? It looks different than my Tornado, is that a Tornado variant? Hence, will the cooked ROM work on my device?
[HTC Tornado] xalex:
spv

is a spv c600.........:D :) ;)
[HTC Tornado] kongocui:
:D WOW!!!.WM6.0!!!
[HTC Tornado] ditch_azeroth:
...sooo looking forward to the 'alpha' vanilla version ^_^
[HTC Tornado] thenext1:
there's the WM6 (and WM5) builtin file explorer, fexplore.exe

Does the C600 have wifi?

Will it work with wifi on our tornados?
[HTC Tornado] kartam:
c600 has no wi-fi but it will surely be compatible with your wi-fi devices (i have had a rom with wi-fi support on my no-wi-fi C600)
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
Hey all

i am also crossbowing.lol.will post screenshots later after i've played with it a bit!

the device that phil is using is actually a TORNADO (as in, Qtek 8310) he has just placed the mainboard and everything into a C600 housing (something which i shall be doing soon simply because i think it looks more elegant!)

not too long now. i can confirm this build is SUPER fast- faster than the 'iphone' rom!
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
Exactly as duke_stix said.

I had a broken (corrupted bootlaoder) c600, and ebing as I like the look of it more than my Qtek 8310, I decide to remove the mainboard from C600 housing, and replace it with the mainboard from my 8310 :D

BTW as a side note, this will also work on the HTC Faraday hardware, tested this by flashing it to my gf's SPV C600 and sending it to a very trusted beta tester to again confirm that it works on his C600 (his primary device, so it'll get a thorough testing ;)) and that there aren't any hardware issues relating to buttons or whatnot.

Anyway, to keep you lot up to date:

Things to do before we release the ALPHA test version:

Remove build ID's

Thats it :eek:

The Alpha version won't be vanilla, but it'll be based on the hybrid I cooked last week sometime, we'll sort out the major issue of build numbers first, release the Alpha version, then pick up all the minor issues everybody finds with the Alpha version. Next will come the 3 beta versions: Vanilla, Standard, Fully Loaded. Pick up the issues found with each of those 3 ROMs and address them. Then release the 3 final versions. This process will hopefully, allow us to create a ROM that is pretty much perfect ;)

Phil
[HTC Tornado] noone85:
Great news!

I have one question.

What does build ID mean?
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
As in the build numbers you find in Settings>More>About

Each beta tester who signed an NDA had their own unique build ID, so that if they were ever leaked, the would know who leaked it, so this is why we are trying to remove the build numbers

Phil
[HTC Tornado] kartam:
so... it's only that you remove build number and you're releasing? Wish I could help...
[HTC Tornado] NiTroGenious:
Well, if it's really hard to remove it, why don't you try to change it? ;)
[HTC Tornado] LBN:
Overclocking app built in in the new ROM

It would be really nice if you included the OMAP Overclocking app in the WM6 ROM and make it persist, I really found that useful to boost performance on the Tornado when running GPS software.
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
No, you download the vanilla version and install it yourself

btw, I want to ask the 2 ROM cookers, can your WM6 use spearkerphone profile? As in, the phone auto answers in loudspeaker? Quite useful while driving
[HTC Tornado] kartam:
even typhoon has WM6.... and initially it had WM2003se... it's unfair!
[HTC Tornado] revanmj:
is this possible to change righ sofkey function form "calendar" to "contacts"??
[HTC Tornado] kartam:
yep

it is possible

wh-what ?? Polishman with Crossbow?? :O
[HTC Tornado] revanmj:
this photo is from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=306014&page=20 i'm asking because i have contacts there and i would like stay with this setting ;)
[HTC Tornado] lixxus:
u lot have literally smaked it with the progress hands down.

im hoping like u said the rom is super fast...because the major fallback is how bloody slow this phone is when opening apps etc.
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
if you take a closer look its actually phil's screenshot. i think he just rotated it. its got phil's MSN nickname on it!
[HTC Tornado] revanmj:
yeah i've just rotated it because i want show it to my friends in polish forum ;)
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
and in answer to your question, i'll hunt down a softkey changer for you!
[HTC Tornado] bluehanson:
One question to rom makers, is there any unfixed bug in the new build? Thank you.
[HTC Tornado] revanmj:
i'll be grateful if you find it
[HTC Tornado] lixxus:
hi quick question...

what

OPERATOR VERSION

and

RADIO VERSION

would you recommend before flashing to wm6( ie the lastest out there) ?

atm im using iphone rom

and i have OPERATOR VERSION: 2.5.39.2

RADIO VERSION : 413.1.04_02.09.00
[HTC Tornado] duke_stix:
right now this is the status as far as i have been able to test:

1) Major: Still contain build ID's

2) Shortcuts need assigning to correct hardware buttons (i.e comm manager button needs to be assigned to comm manager!)

3) HTC Debug apps and folders are still present, these need to be removed. should free up quite a bit of space

4) will then look into slimming it down as far as possible!

5) release!

however, please note, we cannot, under any circumstances release neither as a beta or final until we have removed the build id's, our primary concern here is that we protect our source.

put nicer however, the more time it takes us to figure out how to remove the id's, we are constantly working on improving the rom at the same time so you will end up with a more cleaner and faster rom!

and finally, this rom is FAST!!!!!

operator and radio depends on your country, i however am still using the original Vodafone Radio rom

is there anybody in here who has an old c600 they wish to sell? i would like to use the housing!

thanx
[HTC Tornado] lixxus:
hi duke_stix

im from the uk...my operator is o2.

could you recommend a rom and link please?

thanks
[HTC Tornado] Clayfree:
Thank you for the update! Keep up the good work ... waiting patiently :)
[HTC Tornado] giuseppebitonti:
WOW! i'm just flashed my thypoon with new WM6 rom! it's really amazing!! I don't want imagine how is better on a tornado :D
[HTC Tornado] AN7 OverClocker:
--delete--
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Is it really that hard to remove the build id ?
[HTC Tornado] anandoc:
I had nothing to do this saturday afternoon so I thought of playing around with coredll.dll file with a hexeditor if I could figure out how to modify the build numbers

Ok, I dumped all the files from the Windows Mobile SDK .bin files using the imgfstools. I do not see any coredll.dll file in the dumped files. Am I missing something ?
[HTC Tornado] dbshane:
the coredll.dll is in the xip....
[HTC Tornado] anandoc:
As you can see I am quite a noob at this. Could you point me to some guide etc where I can learn how to extract the XIP ?

I am sorry, I do not want to post OT stuff here. So you can PM me if you wish. Thanks a lot !
[HTC Tornado] mancom:
Hi.

Well, I`m noob as well, but maybe this will help to edit coredll.dll.

For hacking .dll or .exe files I`m using app called ResHacker.

"FREEWARE utility to view, modify, add, rename

and delete resources in Win32 executables and

resource files. Incorporates an internal

resource compiler and decompiler"

Give it a try.

Mancom.