yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] tech_yeet:
Material design....
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Dennis21220:
I hit them up on the Zte facebook page. For bootloader unlock. If anyone needs to know APN settings for no limits hotspot hit me up. I will share what works for me.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] StonerSteve420:
I spoke to a Mr. David Thornton early and he said T-Mobile designed and order the Zmax from ZTE with the bootloader locked. T-Mobile does not have the ability to unlock the device because they just bought them from ZTE. He stated that if it where up to him he would have unlocked the bootloader to begin with. My response was well than how come T-Mobile can't just send a email to ZTE asking to unlock the bootloader since you guys are buying the phones from them. His answer simply was that the bootloader can not be unlocked. He has dealt with this before on another phone just recently and that the same thing has been said from whatever company the phone was made from. What I'm thinking is ZTE can unlock the bootloader but don't want to make a new update push it out to T-Mobile than push it to us change all the programing that's already set in place in their system to flash the new software on newly made Zmax devices which would put their factory on a slow down for just one phone. He repeated many of times tho that the bootloader can not be unlocked and if someone somehow figured it out than good job. We will not be getting any help from either company.......

I'm pissed
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
I'm about to ditch this zmax for a nexus looks like were at a dead end.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] thegrim11:
I wish I could do the same but no money and my carrier doesn't allow my current plan on non carrier phones.

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] jamesthegreat88:
I was poking around in the zte v5 forums and a user or Dallas gave me this link anyone want to try it see if it works?

http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=616049
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
It's in Russian
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] totlth:
I translated it with Google but I couldn't find anything about root.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] therealduckie:
Not our phone. That is the v5 Max.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] jamesthegreat88:
I know. I'm just trying to find ways we can root. Sometimes similar devices from the same manufacturer can be rooted the same way.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] klobster:
Looks like that phone has an unlocked bootloader, so no need to root.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] ubigred:
No surprise. Said it months ago. This phone will not see root.

Sent from my SM-N910T
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Krista904:
Hitting you up on the APN settings, and thank you in advance :)
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
Well. I give up. Goodbye zmax. Hope u live a prosper life. Hahaha not

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
If there is a recognized dev out there who wants to take on the challenge of rooting the zmax pm me, I'm willing to donate mine, I paid cheap for it anyway.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] StonerSteve420:
Just had the weirdest thing happen woke up my zmax had a red light on the screen wouldn't turn on. I hard rebooted it and when it turned on pretty much every app was force closing like google play services gmail all them and I didn't even open anything. I tried a wipe cache in the recovery and it lagged up so I did a factory reset when it turned on after about 30 seconds it would reboot and go back to that black screen with a red light. I finally did 3 factory resets in a row plus a cache wipe in the middle of all that and now it seems to be fine.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
Did you play around with the DPI or anything?
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] StonerSteve420:
I did not play with anything except a new launcher and lock screen app
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
Then that's really odd, your lucky you were able to bring it back to life, its dangerous not having a restore tool, in my opinion if there going to release a device, it should be MANDATORY to release a restore tool with it.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] StonerSteve420:
Yeah exactly why we need root. I'm wondering what happened honestly. Maybe there was something corrupted?
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
so look at this. its an app that shows system data. i dont lnow if it will help any of us. but it says bootloader is unknown.. any ideas?
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
so i talked to zte online chat and penny said this.

Penny said:(11:20:54 03-25-2015)

I'm afraid I can't help you with this issue since we don't have the bootloader so far.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] jamesthegreat88:
They are liars. They are trained to say that and I'm sure the person you got was just a basic support staff not someone with a degree.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
yah. im going to call them in aminute and see if i can talk to the engineering department. they would have anumber right?
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] brandonlee96:
So you guys are telling me that this phone will never ever get rooted?
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
Most likely without any type of developer support, doesn't look to good.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] skinlab:
Nobody can answer that. You never know.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
Well. I'm sure we can find one. Hope!

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] jamesthegreat88:
Has anyone talked to shabby penguin about this phone? I know he helped us in the LG motion but not sure if he would help us.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] skinlab:
Him and Bliss got root on every phone I've bought besides this one and my L9.

They are awesome devs. Playful God also.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
I often get a popup unfortunately contacts has stopped when making a call with the zmax, anyone else get that.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] jamesthegreat88:
All the time.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] StonerSteve420:
Post a link to their accounts ill PM them
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] skinlab:
Shabbypenguin

www.xdaforums.com/member.php?u=2614663

djrbliss

www.xdaforums.com/member.php?u=4229979

PlayfulGod

www.xdaforums.com/member.php?u=2999829
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
There's only a couple things I really even want root for since its already near stock, one being xposed, and the other being google dialer.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] jamesthegreat88:
I want to see how roms will do on this phone
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
Roms, we dont even have root, or unlocked boot loader, this device will most likely never see a custom ROM, possibly root, but doubtful of any rom.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] skinlab:
According to Mobile VulnDB.apk on the market says that we have 4 bugs on the metro 4.4.4.

3 severe 1 medium threat. Throwing that out there. Be cool if it helps.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
Which ones?

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] StonerSteve420:
For some reason those links aren't working
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] StonerSteve420:
Don't know what they mean but
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
Just tap them. I saw them and it was just for attackers. Nothing root related... At least of what I know

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] skinlab:
Not trying to be a tool bro but download it and see.. Best way to know.

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Hold on my chiefin brudder.. I will fix the links..

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Wtf.. The links are whack.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
I will post a screenshot of all the bugs

Sent from my Z970

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Well. It won't let me post

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Exconvict:
Anyone tried towelroot with these modstrings:

"1337 0 1 7340 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7344 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7348 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7352 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7356 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7360 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7364 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7368 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7372 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7376 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7380 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7384 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7388 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7392 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7396 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7400 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7404 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7408 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7412 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7416 4 0"

"1337 0 1 7420 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7340 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7344 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7348 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7352 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7356 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7360 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7364 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7368 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7372 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7376 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7380 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7384 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7388 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7392 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7396 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7400 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7404 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7408 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7412 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7416 4 0"

"1337 0 0 7420 4 0"
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] skinlab:
Did you player?
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Exconvict:
Half done. A few of them tells me to make sure internet is connected. Some crash the app
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
Yah. Happened for me too

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] thegrim11:
I may know of a developer that might take you up on that. Donate as in free? Orrrr? I'll PM him now and see what he would want to do.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
Yea I have a nexus 4 sitting in the drawer at home I bought this for the big display but if there is someone out there that actually has the time and ability to root the zmax I'd be willing to donate it
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] thegrim11:
PM sent. I'll respond with what he wants to do if he wants to do anything. I'll try to pitch in some for shipping cause he lives in Germany so haha
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
I'm going to pm you with my email address it will be easier to get in touch with me that way sometimes I dont get the notifications from the XDA app
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DroidisLINUX:
You know there is a lot more strings than the ones posted, some of the numbers you didn't change like the 4 or the 1 can be changed as well, on his site he says some of those numbers can be 0-1,0-2,0-3,0-4,0-7 depending which one needs to be changed, that is a lot of possible strings plus the 7372 from 0-8000 I think he says so there could be a string somewhere that roots it. The 7372 is multiple of 4, so add or subtract 4 every time and see what happens plus all the others can be changed as well so each 7372 has like 30 some possible changes or more
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] jugjug:
Yup, every time.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] tech_yeet:
Do you guy have the one from metro PCs if SI there that exploit been got patched homie do not even try.....
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] StonerSteve420:
Well guys its been a lot of fun for sure. But my zmax has shot the **** for good it bricked itself somehow idk. I dont want to wait for yet another warranty phone or root so i overnight ordered an LG G2 from T-Mobile. Got a deal going on now i spent $100 bucks for the phone and first months service. I still have my old zmax metro might exchange it for that dumb galaxy avant but if they dont im willing to donate mine as well. Thanks for all the hard work and support
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
Well. It was good having you. Are you still going to monitor the thread?

Sent from my Z970

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Also. If one was to find the correct modstring would the bounty go to the dev of the app or the guy/girl who found the modstring?

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] StonerSteve420:
Of course i will monitor the thread. I'll even see if i can find a g2 dev help you guys
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
But if someone was to find the string. Then they get the bounty?

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] StonerSteve420:
That's how i see it yes
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
I dont see why they wouldn't its technically achieving root for the device.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
If someone achieved root for my zmax today, I'd be more than happy to hand over my pledge, I dont really care what method they use as long as the end result is root, lol.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
I am working hard on these methods. Are u running 4.4.2 or 4.4.4

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
4.4.2 T-Mobile variant
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
Ahm I have the metro variant and 4.4.4. But I almost succeeded in root I was sure of it.

I'm going to see if the string would allow temp

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] ubigred:
No. Not mainstream enough. Devs aren't interested. Check the previous thread.

Sent from my SM-N910T
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] thegrim11:
I messaged a developer I worked with on my old phone. I asked if he was interested in helping us out. Haven't replied yet though. I don't think he'll say no to a free phone.

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] voidcomp:
Outta here. Just got a great deal on a new, unlocked LG G2. First order of business will be to root, apply recovery, then install Xposed.

I purchased the Zmax knowing root wasn't a sure thing, but considering the deplorable 'who cares'? attitude of ZTE it's clear they don't deserve my business. Good luck to you guys.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
Another thing about this device is you can almost bet it will never receive an update, really a shame because its a decent device for the price, I bought mine off someone on craigslist for $70 so no big loss.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] jamesthegreat88:
Agreed next year I'm going to find a note or something better than a zte should have got the avant.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
I actually have an avant at home as well its okay the display is low res but there is an almost complete cm11 ROM out for it and its smooth as butter
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
So we are giving up on this phone?

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] thereal_antiHackmasta:
No and there does not haven't I be a post ever 5 secs just to keep it relevant.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] StonerSteve420:
Has anyone tried booting into recovery and using update via adb maybe tthat can help get adb to work
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Planterz:
These words are English, but the syntax is not. Pyrex pickle blowfish purple monkey dishwasher.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] totlth:
That's adb sideload. It reads a zip package and installs it. No other adb commands work when phone is in that mode. I've tried.

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Its autocorrect syntax. Lol. I figured the code out. Lol
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
People can post whatever they want, just what we need another XDA Nazi.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] totlth:
I think he was just letting foolks know that just because posts aren't happening, that doesn't mean no work is being done.

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I meant folks not foolks. Lol
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
Don't mean to be rude but just because something isn't relevant to you doesn't mean it isn't to someone else, and this is a general thread this isn't a development thread, its for discussion, as we are all well aware of, there is no real development going on for the zte zmax.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] totlth:
I don't know how anyone can take that as rude. I was just saying what I thought he was saying. I wasn't fanning anything. I'm with you about the discussion thread stuff. And I agree about the relevance of things to people. And also about people posting whatever they want. I'm no Gestapo.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] ubigred:
Que?
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] thegrim11:
Although no one is actively trying to root it (I mean recognized developers) , just give it a couple weeks. Maybe a month or so. It'll happen eventually. It has already been rooted. We just need to find a way ourselves or another Dev pick up the phone.

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Beerthirty:
you know what I have been watching this and last thread since the beginning. I got my zmax last september from metro. I have had no problems of any kind. Except no save to sd. I too have been waiting for root and I've read every single post in both threads. That's alot of posts to read. I too prey for root. Espacally since I bought a second zmax cause I love the phablet so much. I also talked three other friends including my girlfriend into buying this phone. So for any of you that give up your gonna regret it. Someone will come thru. Anyways just had to finally post here. Good luck to everyone and once again I love this phablet
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] jjrx3:
do you guys notice that the phone "squeaks/creaks" when you grab the sides? Ive noticed that it only happens in the bottom half.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] therealduckie:
This is NOT in ANY way a "general thread". It is for development, FAQs, and guides ONLY. Don't like it? Make your own thread.

Stop bumping it and posting nonsense.

Back on topic or I will have the thread closed.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] kardeef:
I have been trying to find info on the boot sequence of a android, maybe its buried somewhere ,if someone could point me in the right direction or recommend a good heck book. I have been as a hobby coding mostly in C and CPP in dos and windows the last 20 yes. I just need to figure out how the android ticks . I would like to try to figure out how to root this thing... Sick of waiting lol
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Djoec1983:
I created a thread over at android forums for anyone who's interested its the one that says (GENERAL DISCUSSION) like that in bold letters, had enough of XDA these guys drive me insane on here, there like a bunch of old woman, feel free to come by and post whatever may be relevant to you.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] johnb380:
Well i got sick of no root and all the Bs in this thread, and the last, so I went and bought me a mint condition 1 WK old One plus one off of Craigslist for 350. Best phone I've ever bought... And best community so far... And tons of ROMs and development!

So with that I'll see you guys if you ever get tired and move on hit me up!

Good luck guys!

PS... My 1+1 came rooted with boot loader unlocked and lollipop 5.0.2 cyanhack ROM already installed with newest twrp recovery. O how awesome it is to be back in a community a real one!

Bye!
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] skinlab:
Off topic.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] tech_yeet:
https://developer.android.com/training/index.html there you go...

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I still can't get over how that man said that for real through!!! and the really ***** up part about it is said he did not even own the dam thing!!!!!??????
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
Ikr. Funny thing was that he's over like he's Bad and all with his phone. Yet he's on here criticizing everyone else

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] kardeef:
Thanx for link :)
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] ubigred:
Good move. That's the only choice left now.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] brandonlee96:
I got my zte zmax for $10
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
Yeah it does for me.

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] thegrim11:
Suggestion. Maybe we can do mimick the process that is being used on newer LG devices. Which is making a script to do everything for us while in software update mode... Which is the FTM mode. I've check and there is a way to send commands to the software update mode so maybe we can make a script that will do the same for us. Here is the root method used on the LG phone I have:

http://xdaforums.com/android/development/guide-root-method-lg-devices-t3049772

Maybe this is our way in? Because the LG F60 which is the LG phone I have that this worked on, didn't have access to bootloader or recovery. Only software update mode. And we have at least recovery and software update mode. Just to let you guys know.

The only thing we would have to do is either edit the script they use or make our own.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] skinlab:
This thread is in general discussion. It is a general topic. If closing this thread means that nobody has to put up with your condescending patronizing attitude, by all means, close it.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] totlth:
I'm gonna try this.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
If we get this. I'm going to crap my pants haha how do we put it into software update mode?

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] thegrim11:
Turn off the phone completely then hold down Volume down + power then let go off power and when the red LED turns off, let go of volume. And don't bother trying the script they use. We need to make our own script.

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] totlth:
From what I've read so far about this, it uses com ports to connect. FTM mode doesn't. But there is another mode that does use the ports that I found while messing with qpst.

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If you hold volume up and down while powering on it will go to blank screen with red led. When I plug it into pc it recognized the port it was on. I had to play with all the buttons to get out of this mode tho.

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I haven't looked thru the contents of the zip download yet but I'm sure it needs a lil tweaking.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] noyoof:
......#

Add purpledrake to the WILL NOT ROOT zmax list before it's asked

+1
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] totlth:
I get as far as running the sh script. Nothing happens after that.

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I did however have a # prompt
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] thegrim11:
Yes. Because the script is made for the lg phone... Didn't I say that? We need to make our own.

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] totlth:
Yes you did. I never said you didn't. I simply was giving an update of what I tried. I looked thru the script and it was all generic locations like system instead of physical location. So I tried it.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] tech_yeet:
We got root!!!!!! We got mother ***** RRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://mobile.twitter.com/srsroot/status/564491722567069697 !!!!!!!!!
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] totlth:
Looks like its just for 4.4.2
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] DarthJaylen9189:
I think it may be fake

It looks outdated. Says 4.2 or below

Sent from my Z970
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] tech_yeet:
I some other KitKat 4.4.2 supported as well...
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] Mizoah24:
I'll try it tomorrow morning if we don't get any official year before that. I don't have my laptop with me.
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] tech_yeet:
Yeah I'm not around PC nether...
[ZTE ZMAX Guides, News, & Discussion] skinlab:
SRSRoot said the same shat for the alcatel fierce 2.. But it was bullshat ...