yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Wear OS General] drhkp:
It looks like the user used some sort of translation software, hence it looks all jumbled. :p
[Wear OS General] vetvito:
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https://youtu.be/FWsid6C6jbU

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It's happening!!!! We need someone to rip the apk from those watches, and we will need the app from Google. Game on!!!
[Wear OS General] wez_db:
Nice!! Wonder why the older watches aren't supported
[Wear OS General] rjohnstone:
According to a post on The Verge, they will be supported soon after the initial release.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/31/9231293/android-wear-ios-hands-on-video-google-watch-iphone
[Wear OS General] wez_db:
Not quite; Chang says that Google isn’t supporting older watches because it wants them to work right away, without software updates. "In order to guarantee a good experience, where out of the box it will work immediately and you don't have to do any fancy footwork, that's why it has to be the newer watches," he says. But I suspect that the Android community will find ways around that limitation for older watches in relatively short order.
[Wear OS General] wez_db:
the app is in the stores, looks a lot like the android version. Going to try and pair my 360 in a bit.
[Wear OS General] gidi:
THANK GOD IT IS HAPPENNING!
[Wear OS General] wez_db:
Yes, the Moto 360 does work with the iPhone http://flip.it/yfw4w

Haven't tested it myself but the verge is confiming it will work
[Wear OS General] firehawk:
Works for me and my iPhone 6/LG G Watch R

You have to do a factory reset first, because the watch can't pair with both android and iOS. I'm not sure how to install the Android Wear Apps onto the watch now though. Sideload?
[Wear OS General] steve_bk:
Looks like you need to have Android Wear 1.3, my moto 360 is still at the last release. I tried to pair to my iphone 6 no good, been using aerlink. I am going to try and get the latest 1.3 on my watch tonight and pair.
[Wear OS General] vetvito:
They all work!!! We lose Wifi abilities tho [emoji58]

And we get these material notifications, I liked Aerlink notifications better.
[Wear OS General] vythai28:
No notification for picture messaging.
[Wear OS General] techguy0:
Confirmed Moto360 working (firmware 1.30) with my iPhone 6, all is well.

Had to do a factory reset to pair it with the iPhone rather than my Nexus 5, and unfortunately in the process obviously lost my Facer Watchface.

Probably too early but any thoughts on how to get custom watchfaces on via iOS?
[Wear OS General] steve_bk:
I am wondering if on the Moto 360 it is a more solid / stable connection. With Aerlink on the Moto 360 it is unstable and frequent disconnects just like the early days of Pebble on iOS.
[Wear OS General] firehawk:
So far, comparing Android Wear iOS to Aerlink

Pros

Native support

Internet connection through iPhone for Voice Search, Google Now, Google Translate, Weather

Better notifies for Calendar (Location, participants..) and Gmail (Archive, etc...)

Easier reconnection of bluetooth

Same as before

Music integration

No Siri

Cons

Third party wear apps not supported (like Watchmaker)

Wifi and Bluetooth settings gone, so you can't use bluetooth speakers/headphones

Unconfirmed

Connection is not just Bluetooth LE, but also regular Bluetooth?

Syncs Google Fit with Google account, but not Apple HealthKit?

Android device is probably no longer needed? except for maybe firmware upgrades?

Turn by turn GPS notifies work? for both Google Maps and Apple Maps?
[Wear OS General] jonnyc51:
My LG g watch paired with iphone6 no problem, problem is I had to factory reset to pair and have lost my watch faces and games, im sure the Devs will come up with ways to side load ask without android phone.
[Wear OS General] briwil:
I'm wondering the same thing. I'll begin to find out tomorrow when my second attempt at a Moto 360 shows up in the mail from Amazon.
[Wear OS General] srj228:
Working on Sony Smartwatch 3 / Iphone 6

I installed the app on my iphone 6, did a factory reset on my watch, restarted my iphone, launched android wear from my phone, and am now paired (Sony Smartwatch 3).

By the way, I haven't had an android phone for over a month, and I am pretty sure I got an OTA software update on my watch based from the wifi that had been saved from my last android phone pairing.
[Wear OS General] vetvito:
Huh? Connection problems were fixed with the 5.1.1 update.

When I was using Aerlink I had zero disconnects.
[Wear OS General] AndyInParadise:
How to connect iPhone and Android phone

Seems to work well on iPhone this morning.

Would love to be connected to both iPhone and Android phone.

Cannot live without Watchmaker!!!!
[Wear OS General] firehawk:
The guy at 9to5google seems to think there's some connection issues with the 360

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRzbv4dBefI
[Wear OS General] sycamore22:
I'm also missing watchmaker watch's faces on my watch....Hopefully someone would figure this out soon. This is the step in the right direction though.
[Wear OS General] oohsam:
I had disconnects. When you went out of range and came back, you had to manually reconnect sometimes. Was still good though.

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The setup of my watch to my iphone 6 totally smashed my battery today. I had full battery and after setup, i had 29%. Two hours later my watch was totally dead (my fault cause I kept playing with it and all the settings on the app). But in those two hours, it was awesome. I like it much better than AErlink which was great, but was 'not quite there' yet. props to the developer though.
[Wear OS General] vetvito:
Horrible video by Cam and he usually does good work. Just awful.

He said you don't even get SMS notifications, which is a lie. You get all notifications.
[Wear OS General] briwil:
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Really? With a moto360? I haven't checked in as much since I sold my watch a few months ago, but every time I do check in I hear people saying the Moto connection is still unusable
[Wear OS General] vetvito:
That was true prior to 5.1.1, now everything is working correctly with no weird disconnections.
[Wear OS General] steve_bk:
Aerlink still disconnects on my iphone6 and Moto 360 using LightBlue. Sometimes after a few mins sometimes after a couple hours. Also notifications just sometime stop Calendar first then everything else. Restarting the connection works for SMS notifications and what's app. A watch reboot is needed for Calendar. This is all with iphone6, LightBlue, Moto 360,and Aerlink on the watch.

I am tempted to try the android wear iPhone connection but don't want to loose watchmaker.
[Wear OS General] duddy:
Pulled my old Sony Smartwatch 3 out of the drawer and charged it up. Did a factory reset and ran through the setup. Worked great.

But my watch has v1.1 on it. Not 1.3.

iPhone is running iOS 9 Beta 3.

Mostly seems to be working, and it is seemingly downloading the 1.3 update right now. So I'm not sure this lines up with the whole "you need v1.1 to pair" information floating around. I'll run the update and see what happens.

EDIT: Since it's using the bluetooth connection to load the update, it's taking a good long while.
[Wear OS General] oohsam:
Yeah Im on 5.11

It's useable, it just sometimes stop sending me notifications. I get a lot of whatsapp messages so I know right away when it stops working. Never really looked into it, but all that was required was to open the aerlink app and the watch would just say "reconnected, you're good to go".

Same here steve.
[Wear OS General] steve_bk:
Has anyone tried pairing with the iPhone first then trying to pair to an Android device after successfully paired to an iPhone ?
[Wear OS General] sycamore22:
Tried. Doesn't work! You need to factory reset each time pairing.
[Wear OS General] GaresTaylan:
My 360 paired flawlessly on 1.3 with my iPhone 6 Plus.

The only issue I'm having is it doesn't seem to be tracking my steps very well. Ill walk off and on for an hour and see it will show I walked like 70 steps. Doesn't seem to matter how tight it is. My work also supports healthy habits that tie into our medical benefits. So if it doesn't track my steps properly and I have no way of importing them into apple health or vitality then I'm having to switch back to my fitbit. :(
[Wear OS General] vetvito:
Yeah, I don't know what to tell you about that. Mines never disconnected. I haven't had a drop connection with the Wear app for iOS either.

Google fitness or Moto body? I know Google fitness updates slowly.
[Wear OS General] GaresTaylan:
Either one. I figured Moto probably wouldn't work out of the box, if at all. I guess I never paid much attention to how quickly Fit actually updates. My co-worker with an Apple Watch has updates more or less on the fly.

Still cant seem to figure out how, if at all, to export that info into apple health or another iOS app like map my fitness.
[Wear OS General] vetvito:
Moto body works out of the box, it's stuck on the watch as far as I can tell.

Google fitness doesn't export to Apple either. It sucks currently.
[Wear OS General] GaresTaylan:
Looks like Moto body wasn't updating for me. It is now.

Really hope Google comes up with a way to export this data. Does this data get uploaded to Google somewhere that I can view on my GMail account? Maybe then I could do some sort of a convoluted workaround for now by going to the website, exporting the data and manually uploading into mapmyfitness or something.
[Wear OS General] vetvito:
Fit.google.com is all I can find.
[Wear OS General] firehawk:
So has anyone tried sideloading watchmaker into their Wear?

I kind of remember that sideloading involved bluetooth ADB to an android phone's Android Wear, which would relay to a PC via a USB cable. If this is the case, then it would be difficult since Android Wear for iOS has no ADB relay. And the Wear on iOS mode disables the bluetooth menu on the watch.

If the above is true, then we won't be able to bluetooth our way to ADB on a 360. It would have to be on a homemade USB cable.

I'm wondering if other watches like the GWR can just usb back to a PC and ADB sideload watchmaker that way. If nobody has attempted, I will try tonight.
[Wear OS General] steve_bk:
Guess What, Paired with my iPhone and I am able to Debug over Bluetooth on my Android device, Trying to sideload some stuff now.
[Wear OS General] sycamore22:
If successful could u kindly guide us how to debug and sideload app...I'm missing watchmaker.....ty!
[Wear OS General] steve_bk:
So far it is saying it is successful but none of the apps are showing up on the watch. Still digging into it.

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This is the guide I am following.

http://xdaforums.com/moto-360/general/guide-install-apk-moto-360-t3028067

I am able to connect and see the watch through my android device on my PC. I did disable the iPhone Bluetooth so not to interfere.

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So only one of 3 side loaded apps showed up on the watch. They all list when I do a device dump from adb and they all installed successfully. The app that I can try and launch a calc app won't run. You get the typical unfortunately it stopped message.

Also I can no longer pair back to my iPhone after doing this.

So to me there seems to be promise here. Someone needs to pick it up and figure it out.

Thanks

I tried installing

The mockeymouse watch face from The xda forums

A calculator app

And a task manager
[Wear OS General] oohsam:
So I woke up this morning to a firmware update on my moto 360. Before this I noticed my battery on the moto was getting absolutley spanked. I lost 50% in about 20 minutes.

Updated it ( i was already on the latest version) and its much much better. Not sure what else they updated, but my iphone app has watchfaces section which I didnt see yesterday but not sure if thats new or not.

Anyone able to confirm.
[Wear OS General] firehawk:
First sideload success!

Like I said, I think Moto 360 would have a lot of trouble doing adb over bluetooth.

I did an adb over usb cable with the GWR plugged directly to the computer.

Step 1: Enable developer options on GWR

Step 2: Enable ADB debugging

Step 3: Install ADB and universal ADB drivers

Step 4: Plug in GWR

Step 5: "adb usb"

Step 6: "adb devices" (optional)

Step 7: "adb install signedflappybird.apk"

As you probably guessed, I installed flappy bird. Tested in watch and it works. Connection to iPhone is uninterrupted.

I tried watchmaker, but it synced the phone app into the watch. Not sure how to find the watch app to sync

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Answering my own questions...

To uninstall a phone app

Step 1: "adb shell"

Step 2: "pm list packages"

Step 3: "pm uninstall slide.watchFrenzy.premium"

To install the watch app

Step 1: rename APK to zip

Step 2: open up and take the wear apk from res/raw

Step 3: run "adb install" on that apk instead!

Booya! Now to find a way to get the custom faces installed.

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I tried doing an "adb push" of a *.watch file but I didn't know where to put it! It's not /sdcard/BeautifulWatches/watches

Right now I only have the two default Watchmaker faces, Steel Blue and Retrospecto
[Wear OS General] Jubmasterflex:
Hey Jonny, mind if I ask what steps you took in order to pair? I only ask because my 6+ can't seem to find my LG G watch, even after factory reset and having upgraded to the latest update.

Any way you could point me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
[Wear OS General] aidlover:
I am only able to sideload those watchfaces that without settings or requires android app based on your steps

i am able to pair my 6+ after factory reset of the watch

requires minimum android wear version 1.1 and 1.3 works fine too

mine is 1.1 and then it auto updates to 1.3 after pairing to my 6+
[Wear OS General] Razor29:
I found that you can launch any side loaded app via voice command "Open (Name of App)"

im trying to figure out if we are getting Internet connection on the Watch via the iPhone

My setup is

iPhone 6 + iOS 8.4 JB synced With Samsung Gear 2 Wear Port by Biktor

(Synced and working with the iPhone Regarding basic features but does not show watch faces on the iOS Wear app)
[Wear OS General] steve_bk:
That's pretty cool the cable route worked on the GWR. Like I said on the Moto 360 it jacked it up pretty good and I had to wipe and start over.

I Think someone will figure it out.
[Wear OS General] pennywise1988:
The strange thing I see is that the experiences users have had with the Moto 360 for example (as I also have one) and the iOS app seem to vary quite wildly. I had mine in the drawer until Monday when the app came out, I first just tried syncing with no factory reset or anything and obviously it didn't work. I don't own an Android phone anymore but the 360 still had my home wifi saved and I believe that it received an OTA update over that connection, updating my android wear to 1.3, I then did a factory reset and paired it immediately with my iPhone 5S, and everything just worked. I think what needs to happen is the big G needs to add a "Wear-only" PlayStore link in the application, or quite simply ad the possibility to add files to the Wear iOS application through iTunes as you can do with PDF readers or video players for example, this could maybe let us add custom watchfaces.

Overall I think this is the best move the big G has done all year, it can be all downhill for it's wearable business now :victory:
[Wear OS General] mitchjackson94:
I wonder if there is a way you can somehow inject the watch faces onto the android wear app thought a file manager like iFile.

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Anyone know how to get the 1.3 update I'm still on 1.1 and it says I'm on the latest.
[Wear OS General] steve_bk:
Just a note when i side loaded my apk's on the watch i did not extract the android wear version i loaded the phone versions so that could be why none of the apks i side loaded worked. I will wipe my watch and try again. I will also dig more into see if i can re-pair to my iphone after adb debugging over android bluetooth.

Here is what I tried:

1. Wiped moto 360

2. Paired to iphone

3. Checked i was paired and receiving notification from iphone

4. turned off bluetooth on iphone, watch said need to reconnect.

5. turned on adb debug on watch and android tablet

6. in the android wear app it showed i could connect over adb debug to my moto 360, did that

7. adb commands on pc and sideloaded apps

8. turned off all the adb debug on android tablet and watch

9. turned off android tablet

10. turned on iphone and tried to reconnect watch and iphone, no dice

11. rebooted both devices, still no connection.

My setup is:

Moto 360 on 1.3

Iphone 6 - Non JB

Some Kit Kat Android Tablet only used for the moto 360
[Wear OS General] firehawk:
I "adb push"ed my whole friggin BeautifulWatches directory from my Android Phone to the watch, and still nothing! Those two stupid Steel Blue and Retrospecto watches.

I also tried injecting them into the watch apk file under assets, but wasn't able to get the certificate signing in order to install it.

Need to know more about how Watchmaker Phone syncs libraries with Watchmaker Watch through Channel, Data, and Message APIs
[Wear OS General] vetvito:
I'm having serious delay issues with the official AW app on iOS. Take almost 20 seconds before my watch alerts me to a notification, and it misses a lot of them.

I had zero issues with Aerlink.
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Hmm, I haven't had any issues, my notifications come in maybe a second or two after the phone.

Its bizarre, because you're also the one who said Aerlink was working perfect for you with your Moto, while everyone else out here was still getting constant disconnects.

Are you GuiyeC?? ;)
[Wear OS General] vetvito:
Who's that?

It's getting ridiculous now, always asking me to reconnect. I miss Puije Black watch face as well.
[Wear OS General] oohsam:
oh yeah, like thats gonna happen! There was resistance allowing android wear app on appstore and now you're talking about a whole new android wear app store LoL.

I'm very interested in the issues you're having.

I had some issues initially, after a factory reset, a sync, and then software update, its been working for 3 days flawlesly. I did have to block some apps which were sending way too many notifications to me.

I still dont know how to get weather updates, but your issues seem quite easy to resolve.

Try a software update and then a system restore on the watch.
[Wear OS General] briwil:
He's the developer behind Aerlink. (As if you don't know).

What iPhone are you using? No one else seems to have these issues with the official app.

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Yeah, true. But... One thing Google could do is release an OSX Android Wear app that had a store built-in. It could just be a downloadable dmg file, so it bypasses the official Mac App Store and its rules, and it could sync to the watch via Bluetooth just like the phone and offer Playstore purchases. Basically it's what I had to do with my Moto up until recently- I didn't have an Android phone so I installed Android x86 on my Mac via Parallels and used the Mac as my android "phone"

Hell, they could just build it into the Chrome browser.

Or they could just release an sdk for iOS developers so that they can add Wear functionality to their apps.
[Wear OS General] vetvito:
Very delayed notifications on the watch. My phone would light up with a notification, and 20 seconds later my watch would finally buzz. With Aerlink the notifications on the watch were instant.

Check your settings in Google Now or Android Wear for your weather settings.

Wrong quote?

I'm on a iPhone 6+.
[Wear OS General] firehawk:
I had these delays too, but only when it was in the middle of uploading something like a watch face. When it wasn't transferring data, the delays went back to half a second or so.
[Wear OS General] steve_bk:
Anyone found a solution to this yet ?
[Wear OS General] BanaHero:
I got these notification delays all the time and they are extreme, I would say about up to 30 seconds late, and some notifications don't come through to the watch and same is with phone calls. So not really polished, aerlink worked way better for me, except that this one has a working internet connection. Hope this improves with updates
[Wear OS General] steve_bk:
Yeah I went back to aerlink for now until this gets a lot better.

No Music Control

No Imessage alerts

No Custom Watch Faces (the ones google gives you suck)

Can't change Bluetooth or WiFi settings

No play store access

No non-stock apps - unless you sideload and then i couldn't reconnect to the iphone

That's all I can think of for now.
[Wear OS General] firehawk:
I have both music control and iMessage alerts. And I can sideload via USB without disrupting my iPhone Bluetooth link

I'm guessing that the people who have notification delays (@Vetvito , [MENTION=6570234]BanaHero[/MENTION]) have 360s? Because it's probably that you have the bluetooth disconnection issue and Google never solved that yet (I'm guessing again).

Otherwise these things work fine for my GWR.
[Wear OS General] steve_bk:
Yeah I am sporting a 360 with the stuff I listed. Granted the iOS app for Android Wear is not even tailored for the original 360.
[Wear OS General] BanaHero:
Nope, am using GWR, never had problems with aerlink (delay related etc.), but got these with the official version... I even get a lot more disconnects
[Wear OS General] vetvito:
I never thought about it that way. It makes sense.
[Wear OS General] jonnyc51:
Hi I reset my lg watch and opened the iOS wear app and paired the watch and phone,

Worked first time, I have actually used Aerlink again so I can keep my watch faces that I loaded form my galaxy s 5, problem I have is I keep swaping between iOS and android and I always seem to go back to iOS.
[Wear OS General] vetvito:
On second thought, this is not the problem. The watch and phone stay connected. I can say "Ok Google" and get results. The notification delay is the only problem.
[Wear OS General] mitchjackson94:
I have the 360 and the delay is bad for me too I'm on 1.1 anyone with 1.3 is there less delay?
[Wear OS General] guitarbrain:
I was one of those early adopters for the 360 and iOS . I was very unsatisfied with the initial experience of frequent disconnects and cumbersome re-connects. I returned my 360. When I saw Aerlink was released in the AppStore, I bought the 360 again. It was a little better but still about 5 disconnects per day. Now with the Android Wear release in the AppStore, I have high hopes that this will be much better. So far, I have experienced much better connectivity but it has still had a little hiccup now and again. The 360 is the best looking smartwatch in my opinion so I am happy with my choice, despite some limitations on the function compared to an AW. Next on my wish list is an ability to get more watch faces into the watch, beyond the few Google bundled and made available in the Android Wear iOS app. Surely there is someone out there with the skill to figure this out. Yes, I would pay for that feature... There are sooooo many great watch faces out there and changing the watch faces is one of my favorite features of the 360. Come on....who has the magic formula?
[Wear OS General] mitchjackson94:
I too was one of the first aerlink worked really well for me and had no delays in notifications and handly disconnects I'm hoping someone will make a cydia tweak that'll install custom watch faces and use iFile to somehow transfer new ones that have been downloaded.