yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] pjam:
Since it seems this rom was based perhaps on a Prophet rom i decided to have a look for the button mapping solution within the prophet area.

I found that someone has created an app called NeoTab. This app has actually restored the ability to map button's 1 + 2. It also has an alt tab function that works from the red phone key but it struggles to come to the front on my phone.

Give it a try, do a search on this forum. it may be worth asking the author to tweak the alt tab function for the charmer.

pjam
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] nocturne.op.15:
i'm using also battery status as you do. 250mA seems to be quite a lot...

radio on, bluetooth on, nothing running, backlight on - set to 50% - consumption about 130mA

radio on, bt on, nothing running, display on, backlight off - consumption 50-60mA

radio on, bt off, display off - consumption reported by battery status 20mA and less

radio on, bluetooth on, nothing running, backlight on - set to 100% - consumption 200-250 as you have reported...

try to apply power mwnagement tweaks mentioned few pages back. only some of them are alredy activated in rom...thanks for report :-)
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] nocturne.op.15:
no, it was based on wizard rom, core2n is the base...
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] vlodeck:
Try also applying some power management tweaks if you havent done it yet.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] pjam:
Sorry, my mistake thinking it was based on a prophet rom.

The fact remains though that NeoTab was designed with the prophet in mind and it allows the charmer buttons to be remapped within wm6. (Only single press though for buttons 1 + 2).

The task changer using the red phone key now works really well too after uninstalling handy switcher.

You also have access to some system tweaks too.

Now that i'm getting sorted with these little things i'm really starting to enjoy this new wm6 rom and just want to say a big thank you to the people involved in bringing it to us.

THANK YOU.

pjam
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] Martie:
hi vlodeck,

be afraid to flash the rom and have a few questions...

i hope you understand me, my english is very bad ;)

I have read this thread and i understand maybee 80%

the questions:

1. I have 2 days ago flashing my Charmer with aku 3.3 --> than i musst use "ANOTHER FLASH METHOD" ... thats right?

2. Can i make a downgrade to "WM5 aku 3.3 TMO_DE" after flashing to "WM6" (when it not work by my Charmer)

3. which errors/bugs are still in your WM6-ROM (Blootooth is for me importantly)

i mean this question not negative :)

4.can i change the language with *.mui files? which parts of that ROM are in another Language? or gives another (better) method?

EDIT ON

5. radio rom ?? i´dont have radio in german Charmer (MDA Compact II) or is this out of order ???

EDIT OFF

thx and regards

Martie
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] melvincz:
People, read the whole thread carefully, please!

Well, I'm not a bad boy (for sure I'm not), but I have to say "those questions are all answered (or a majority of them) in this thread". Just be so kind and study it reply by reply to find answers for your questions. Use "search" feature of this forum as well, it's very well implemented.

Well after reading this I have to say some more. Don't try to play with your Charmer before you read enough about that. It's highly risky. "Radio ROM" has nothing in common with any FM tuner, it's a special communication layer controlling GSM part of your device.

Regards,

Radek
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] Martie:
thx for your answer melvincz,

i understand you...

I wanted only a confirmation whether I that correctly understood...

1. Yes

2. No

.....

ok... that with the radio ROM... i don´t now ... thx for the answer...

everyone times small began....
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] melvincz:
Well, I know it's not easy at the very beginning. You could be sure it's sometimes more difficult to answer those repeating questions.

1. Read this.

2. Read this.

Try to find the other onswers by reading the thread again, please.

Radek
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] vlodeck:
Martie:

1. Use Another Flash Method, it is reported to work in 100% cases.

2. Yes

3. There are no major bugs, bluetooth works OK.

4. Replacing mui files actually wont work, at least I think so.

5. Radio has nothing to do with OS. Everything should work fine.

Cheers,

vlodeck.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] pjam:
vlodeck,

can you confirm that this rom does not change the radio?

My t-mobile uk gprs connection seems very slow at the moment. It is probably to do with T-mobile advertising their mobile internet alot and lots of new customers.

Thanks
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] Martie:
thank you vlodeck....

@melvincz

the thread with *mui Files are here :

I have read it

ok and the bugs are here

[URL="http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1246972&postcount=94]I have read it[/URL]

PS: the name for radio-rom is in german ... "Funkempfänger" but i have it understand now... THX

the version of radio is 2.69.21 --> new
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] melvincz:
Don't take in a wrong way, I mean for your knowledge it's better to start to search then to ask. You could find many other interesting topics while looking for the answers.

Regards,

Radek
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] vlodeck:
i'm positive.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] pjam:
Thanks vlodeck
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] Martie:
It works very fine... and as big thank you...

... i have written a FAQ in german and english (with vlodecks text ;) ) with Screenshots

if vlodeck and nocturne.op.15 give their agreement, i uploaded it…

regards Martie
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] iamthebug:
GPRS

IE doesnt find any web page and no matter how I configure my GPRS, it refuses to connect. I am on T-Mobile UK. Im sure this isn't a bug and is just an ID10T error, but what are the correct settings?
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] nocturne.op.15:
Feel free to do anything with this ROM. Every help is welcomed, the more people will work on it, the more issues will we solve :-)

BTW, sorry for out stagnation, but vlodeck is realy busy right now and i'm testing completely new source for rom, much faster :-) it has lot of problems, but if we resolve them, it will be the fastest rom ever...
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] melvincz:
Hi, nocturne, is there anything I could do to help you solve any of the problems?

Regards,

Radek
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] littld:
Some buttons experience

Just sharing this for those who are struggling to get best use out of the hardware buttons on the Charmer, especially WM6. This is my experience / use of it and your needs may well be different.

The standard ROM provides "Start Menu" and "OK" on the bottom buttons. People are struggling to change these on the new ROM. Happily for me, this is what I always used them for anyway. The downside for some people is that they miss the ability to actually close apps with a button press rather than just minimizing. I also use the Record button for Voice Command as well.

I have installed AE button plus and have used it to add some more functionality. This means I can use one click on the camera button to rotate the screen and two clicks to actually start the camera. I am also using the Red and Green phone buttons to activate the softkeys (as they are a bit fiddly without a stylus in hand). The double click for the Green button is set to start the phone, and the double click for the Red button is set to close the active app (instead of minimizing). This means the green button still lets me accept cals and start the phone app, the red button still hangs up calls but I get the added benefit of easier access to the softkeys.

Hope this helps someone to enjoy the new rom a bit more.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] ap0ll0:
just spotted a bug (i think so)...

at night 11 pm my battery was 100% loaded, i set to standby.

at morning it was completly off, 0 % battery. after charging it works again, but i'm asking me how that could happen...
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] damac:
Hey, check here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=279908

Dave106 has posted T-mobile settings for MMS and GPRS as cab files right out from the extended ROM in the first post in this thread.

Hope this helps. It helped me and working fine :)
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] bubbahotep:
Vista style Large icons missing from Today screen!

Hi,

I'm a bit confused everything work great rom loaded fine but I'm also puzzled by the lack of "Vista Look" to the today screen. I've seen screen shots with the large icons and clock running accross the top but I don't seem to get it. Am I doing something wrong???

Can anyone help or is there some additional SW I need to get this look?

Cheers.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] nocturne.op.15:
yes, you are doing something wrong. probably you didn't install any 3rd party software that brings you icons on today screen :-)

wm6 itself has nothing more than provided in rom, so do not expect icons on today screen, do not expect aditional ringtones, wallpapers, themes...just clean rom from ourselves. if you want something aditional, just do it yourself
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] damac:
Hey bubbahotep, have a look here

http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/screenshots.html?en

Amazing piece of software. My phone feels incomplete without it. Coupled with SPB phone suite and SPB diary.... you have a rockin' device. Some might think I'm a SPB advertiser or somethin' but the products they have... they deserve some word of mouth advertising :)
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] Martie:
OK.. here is the FAQ of the "ALTERNATIV METHOD (2nd method)" with sreenshots...
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] nocturne.op.15:
Great, thanks for good work :-)

Will convert it to PDF with your permission and include to the first post...
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] melvincz:
Hi, nocturne, and Martie, it's a pretty good work for sure. My guess is to add the guide to the existing Charmer wiki page and insert just the link to the first page of this thread. Wiki page could be edited by all users. Take a look at Charmer wiki page.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] vlodeck:
wiki page can be edited only by moderators.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] bubbahotep:
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, I think you guys have done a fantastic job, it just apears incomplete if you check the review on

http://laptopmag.com/Review/Windows-Mobile-6.htm

Quote: "The Vista-like icons and larger fonts aren't just eye candy"

I wouldn't think they're using 3rd party software. But I guess what you're saying is this rom isn't containing this feature. No probs i'll try spb.

Is there any chance of further updates containing these features?

Cheers. :-)
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] vlodeck:
bubbahotep:

The link you provided shows WM6 for smartphones with 1-9 keypad. Our rom is for Pocket PC Phone. That's why it looks different.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] bubbahotep:
oops!........

sorry, I feel a bit of a muppet now!

Thanks.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] nocturne.op.15:
the real problem is that those icons are from branded devices...and, as mentioned by vlodeck, some of them (if not all) are taken from smartphones, not pocket pc devices...default wm6 looks completely same as wm5 - only difference is that stupid and terrible glass efect. reasons for wm6 are simple - speed. wm6 performance is absolutely great - as you will see soon with our new version that is currently in developement stage (and running on my phone now) :D
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] Martie:
@nocturne.op.15

thx... of course you can make that. ;)

@melvincz

thx :)

EDIT ON:

@ vlodeck/nocturne.op.15

i see.. there is a new version... :)

what is new in this Version ???

how is it, when we written a bug-list for the first ROM-version (and now for the second ROM-Version,too) in the first post???

EDIT OFF

@ALL

the life is give and take
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] vlodeck:
Martie: its based on a new rom, faster one and seems to be a lot better than previous versions. Btw. I added your FAQ to the first post as well.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] Martie:
thx and ok :)

a short question:

for the Update, i musst downgrade to aku 3.3 or go this with your first WM6 version on the device too?
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] pedro12:
NEW ROM WM6_vlono004.2

It's a good news for today, fast work guys!

What about the version history? Is it still based on a core2n wizard rom?

THX try it soon...
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] vlodeck:
pedro12: no its not.

martie: you can try without, but its better to do so.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] nocturne.op.15:
this rom has taken the best of mUn vanilla rom, faria, xbeta and core2n...some performance tweaks from the community, various tweaks and improvements(maybe) discovered by ourselves. somebodz calls it evolution :-)

but be carefull with it! it is still deep in development stage, for example, nobody took care of working links for buttons - and many, many other bugs. think about it as some sort of "technology preview"...
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] NaSeiKual:
I need some help to install the WM6. I have a QTEK S110 with WM3. Is it possible to upgrade to WM6?

I do not find the WM5. Can someone help me?

Many thanks.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] vlodeck:
NaSeiKual: No you cant. Your model is not HTC Charmer, so dont even think about flashing this rom.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] littld:
Links

Link to new rom doesn't seem to be working. Should it end in .zip rather than just .z? Thanks
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] Martie:
...now version "wm6_vlono_004.2" run on my Charmer, too... ;)

Great work!!!

bug fixing:

- the USB-charging functioned in this version... the patch one doesn´t use ;)

bug-reporting:

- mapping from button 1 + 2 out of order (button1 always "start" and button2 always "back"

- found mapping for Button Nr. 5 in Settings... without function,too :( ?!

- sync with windows mobile device center 6 is ok

(- 3rd Party - "sbp Shell Tool" Clock-Screen for an half second after press I/O Button - missing a point of set this feature

... tomorror i install it again and look again )

@littld

extract it with WinRAR!

Link is ok - I have test it!

PS: I mean the old(first) version was faster...or?!
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] anja31:
First, thanks for making Wm6 working on my MDA Compact II,

Some nice new things in it."technology preview"... like nocturne.op.15 said...

The new version (2.7) ist not so pretty good for me than the old one (2.5). :confused: Speed is slower, Contacts are not syncronised by activesync (4.5), crashed for 2 times, I have to do softreset. I went back to the 2.5.

Greetings from germany
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] nocturne.op.15:
ehh, 002.7 has never been released out, it was just experimental and does not exist anymore.

So if you mean 004.2 - there must be something wrong with your charmer, because you are the only one who reports unstability and low speed. not working activesync points also to your problem...(how the hell you think we are working without sync :-))

1) be sure you have charmer, not any similar device like MDAC1 or Prophet

2) flash the newest radio

3) reflash wm6 to be sure the filesystem is not broken

4) hr

5) try if everything works BEFORE you install any 3rd party application

The most common problem of ppc and computers generaly is, that users have their machines filled with junk - freeware is good, but must be tested twice before yo ustart to use it. Also using two different programs with similar purpose may lead to system conflicts...
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] nocturne.op.15:
it's 7z. 7z has better compression and little less chance to get corrupted than regular zip.

i'm using servant salamander as filemanager, so i have no reason to worry about compression formats - ss is able to work with all of them natively, as with directories :-)
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] nocturne.op.15:
no problems with spb mobile shell on my device...hope your problem will be fixed soon...

maybe the realy first one was a little faster, but it's almost no diffrence ( i tried them in a short time, 10 minutes between them :-) this one should be more stable and also compatibility will be better
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] FulesMacko:
Where can I found the newest RADIO? big thanks
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] littld:
OK, it's on now, testing

Thanks, all working now.

A few observations (not necessarily bugs):

1. PhonePad does not work

2. Transcriber is not available as an input method

3. A new app - OneNote is available

4. Word and Excel have new icons and save documents to the new xml format (docx and xlsx). They are notably slower at creating and saving documents as compared to the 2.5 rom imho

5. If I start the camera from the Pictures and Videos app, it starts realy quickly but insists on being upside down. A bit grainy as well. The old camera icon in Programs works fine, however

6. It's no longer possible to recognize scrawls in the Notes app with WM6 (though this was same on 2.5 rom as well)
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] nocturne.op.15:
1) do you mean phone app? or phone pad as input method? phone pad as input method is not implemented

2) transcriber - i was not testing this, but if i tis the same as wm5, you may enable it with cab, it is in system, but not activated by default

3+4) new in office mobile 2007, might be slower but will keep them - desktop office 2007 is great ant hey also cooperates well

5) this way of using camera is little bit strange, it depends on how it Pictures and videos handling camera API - imho we cannot do anything with it

6) was it working anytime? i was trying it, but it has recognized nonsenses everytime...
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] nocturne.op.15:
mentioned somewhere in previous posts...
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] button04:
Hi there, just updated to 004.2 from 002.1, and the changes in this ROM are great with the addition of OneNote, Windows Update amongst other things, however I'm missing the MMS option in messages and a few applications that were included in previous ROMs e.g the HTC Task Manager X button and the Wireless Today screen line (showing Network name and bluetooth info).

Keep up the great work.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] trojan_xv:
i got some problem about buttons settings.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] vlodeck:
maybe you would like to share your problems with us ? :) I'm not a fairy ;]
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] pedro12:
What is the newest radio rom for charmer?
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] FulesMacko:
Yeah, I have a problem with hardware buttons, If I push the contacts, the pda starts start menu, and when push the calendar do nothing, And chargeing, when I connect with PC, my machnie don't charge.

Sorry about my english.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] nocturne.op.15:
EVERYBODY has this problem, please read the whole topic. Lot was written about this. Sorry, but i will not reply to these questions anymore. :mad:
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] anja31:
sorry a little bit stupid about the No. 4.2.7z file

Activesync offcorse works, but it don´t coppy the the contacts from outlook.

@1 I am sure its a charmer :)

@2 radio is gsm 2.6921 - found nothing newer

@3 2.5 is working very fine

@4 off cause i did a hard reset

@5 no 3rd party apps

You are so right!!!

I like the way, you will give us a small and clean crossbow WM6 without junk, big icons and any third party progs.

Greetings from germany

Ps Thanks to Martie for FAQ
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] nocturne.op.15:
:confused: must be something wrong - i have found that WMDC does not want to comunicate with outlook2007 unless i have set up email account (does not matter that this account settings is filled with nonsenses). until this set up, wmdc did not detect outlook as installed. but i afraid that you problem is different

also strange - i have never had more stabile and faster system than 004.2 is - that's why i decided to pre-release it even if some functions are not yet finished.

We will continue with it - others will make customized roms if they want to. I don't like useless junk - i rather use paid but professional software than tons of one-purpose freeware
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] pjam:
Why no phone pad SIP in this ROM? I find it the most useful!

Thanks
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] nocturne.op.15:
i told you that it's just pre-release, not complete rom.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] pjam:
I just wasn't sure whether it was going to be permanently omitted from the final ROM or it was just this pre-release.

cheers
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] Oszi:
When make the finish ROM??? :)
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] nocturne.op.15:
as in every project, also here will allways be something to improve - there will be never final version :-D
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] Martie:
wmdc6/office2007 (Vista) not sync the contacts :(

AC4.5(XP) is ok

@ nocturne.op.15

The sbp shell tool "pseudo bug" is fixed .. it was the app "battery status" LOL

there was acivate: "show today screen wenn device on"

sorry...it was to late, yesterday... my brain was down ;)

@anja 31

gladly made :)
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] nocturne.op.15:
---revised---
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] littld:
Comparison of ver 2.5 and 4.2 and WM5

I have added this to help people compare the different roms now available.

First, thanks for all the hard work in making this possible in the first place!!

Positives of new 4.2 rom: new Office formats (zip xmls) are supported, OneNote is included, more up to date

Negatives of new 4.2 rom: no phonepad, no transcriber, no soft key app, no HTC close app, cabs are deleted after installing (I know this is easy to fix myself), camera launched from Pictures app is upside-down.

I have attached a speed comparison I performed with each of the roms today.

It shows that (on my device at least), WM5 is actually faster at handling Office documents and that soft reset is fastest on WM6 2.5 rom. General app-switching and usability is way faster with WM6 despite the apparent slower access to files in Office apps.

I hope this helps someone.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] jameslovell:
Hi All, I am a bit of a newbie when it come to messing with ROM's i have sucsesfully flashed the WM6 ROM to my Charmer (Using option 2) but i am having problems with the T-Mobile extended ROM... where is it? How can i install parts from it back onto the phone? or can i even install the lot? i want to get MMS working again...

Big thanks for the ROM!! hope you guys can advise...

cheers

James
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] vlodeck:
Install Total Commander and write \Extended_rom in the place where you type directory path.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] nocturne.op.15:
great comparsion littld, thanks for great work - i never guessed that office is so much slower. it's a long time since i used wm5 :-)

what i realy love on wm6, that's absolutely nonproblematic activesync via bluetooth. my whole flat is covered with bluetooth instead of common wifi. lying in the bed and riding irc for free :-)
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] jameslovell:
Thanks Very Much... I shall now slouch back to MoDaCo
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] pedro12:
Newest Radio Rom v2.61.21

Here's the link for newest radio rom for everybody who looking for it.

http://www4.turboshare.de/v/454059/XDA_Neo_Radio_2.61.21.rar.html

Installation is so simple, just use it like a rom update process(RUU in rar).
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] pjam:
Thanks for that. My Radio ROM is currently 02.19.21 (T-mobile UK)

Should i be ok using this ROM? Also, what are the know improvements?

Thanks
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] pedro12:
Some other members reported these reflections using on a Prophet:

Much improved signal strength in deep interior areas, but a slight more power consumption of battery in case of signal lost/searching.

GPRS, SMS, Bluetooth and IR all works perfect.

Sound quality OK, no call drops.
[MDA Compact II ROM Development] anichillus:
Hello,

How did you made that comparison ? looks interesting ... :D