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[Galaxy Note 4 General] nookcoloruser:
That's just the love hate relationship that most of us have with touchwiz. Love the extra features it offers over stock but hate the bloated memory hog with inconsistent performance it can be with even the most powerful hardware running it.

My Moto X 2014 lollipop is far smoother, faster, vastly more memory efficient allowing more apps to be open without refreshing content - and this is despite having slower processor, less ram and earlier version of Lollipop (5.0 v 5.0.1)

So yeah touchwiz annoys me, but as you say it offers some great additions over stock android that make you often overlook much of its uglier moments.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Aijazji:
My Personal Opinion On This Thread That I'm Not Intrested In Buggy Lollipop Firmware I'm Happy With KK

Sent from my SM-N910G
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zabumba:
It's indeed strange this "update" release. I updated my n910f through Odin to Lollipop and also think to go back to KK again but for now I'm gonna keep Lollipop a little more and hope Samsung briefly release a "definitve" Lollipop update.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] renanterzi:
Help

Hey dude!!

Nice work here.

Please, can you tell me where did you find the CM 12 to our Note 4 N910C?

I´d like to install, but i can´t find to download.

Thank you!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Armazia:
I think there is no release of it for the N910C, just for the N910F(international)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] renanterzi:
Ok man.

Thanks any way!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
It's also available for the 910T and 910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Artoriuz:
Exynos variants very early builds are being developed by RaymanFX, but we're still far from daily-driver level.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] willstay:
KK is stable for me. I will wait for few more months until bugs have been sorted out.

Note 4
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] mostberg:
Hi!

Is there a cooked wm6 ROM that has all possible options avaible out here?

Non stripped?

/M
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] mfrazzz:
What do you mean by "all possible options"??? Everyone has different requirements for what they want in a rom, and the cookers build roms for what they want.

The Faria "the real thing" is one of the few cooked roms from here that has a lot of built in apps and such. Most of the others are more vanilla to let you add the apps that you want. There is supposed to be another XPLore version coming out with more stuff in it, and then a 3rd version that is supposed to be full of apps.

It really just depends on what you are looking for. Or the other is go grab the Faria ROM kitchen and read up on how to build packages for it, and then cook the perfect rom for yourself...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] mostberg:
Ok thanx, but I was looking for a rom that is "compiled/cooked an ready to go" with as much stuff in it as possible. I'm not interested in cooking myself. If there is any!? Could be interested in donating for it!

/M
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] anichillus:
Wait a day or so ;)

lol
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] killerkhatiby009:
New xplore version that isnt vanilla?? tomorrow?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3kgt:
Hi guys

Just bought a N4 today, and wounder if there is any way of not tripping knox?

I cant find any way with serarch!
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rs tony:
No.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tb5...:
what is the benefit of not tripping knox?

i am hesitant to root because of this whole knox thing, i've never had to deal with it.

:confused::confused:
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rs tony:
Knox is in hardware, so u can"t cheat that yet.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dlads:
[MENTION=2273736]3kgt[/MENTION]

You can root but you will trip knox, it's a security feature, when tripped it apparently makes a physical change, in the past with other Samsung handsets with knox there have been methods to root without tripping it, but not on the note 4.

Rooting and installing custom roms frees your handset, the performance and customization you gain from doing this (for me at least) far out weighs not retaining warranty, not to mention that Samsung do sometimes overlook the fact that knox has been tripped and have been known to fix tripped phones. Risky though so you should always assume the worst if you need to make a warranty claim.

The decision at the end of the day is yours, just get insurance and if something goes wrong, make a claim if you're really worried.

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With the age of the note now, chances are it'll never be done so tripping knox is here to stay.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3kgt:
THx for the detailed explaining mate. Im aware of knox and have rooted N3 and N2 at home now... but just wanted 2 make sure that there is no fix or bypass yet.. there is 4 example a buypass for my N3 without tripping stupid knox.

Problem is the phone ia bought by my company. Cost 6800 Swedish kr. Wich is a lot for a phone. And not covered by private insuarance. So i will olay with it 4 a few days a decide later. I love rooting and xposed, dunno if i can get used 2 it without. Damn Sammy with there knox.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dlads:
Yea I hear you there, I have an iPhone 6 corporate device, haven't even contemplated jailbreaking it.

In all fairness though, with a different launcher, a decent icon theme pack and some decent apps you can cover quite a bit of the stuff you get from custom ROMs, you won't have cm12 or a custom kernel, you won't have a modified system ui / settings, but it'll be a lot better than touchwiz.

The Google experience launcher for me is my go to launcher, it never slows down and you retain the spen goodies, fingerprint scanner and heartbeat monitor.

There's also a need root thread here in the Q&A section with some superb work arounds, take a look it may be what you need.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tb5...:
[MENTION=2880355]dladz[/MENTION]

so the only real benefit is warranty?

i am in canada and got my phone from kijijii online seller,

if that's the case i'll look into the best way to root the UAE 910c

thanks for the info.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dlads:
Well take a look at what's available custom rom wise, not all variants are catered for at the same level. The 910F which is what I have is probably the most popular AFAIK. So check out development and see what's there for yourself before you commit. Warranty is literally the only thing stopping you, plus the fact you could mess up your phone.

Make sure you back up your efs partition the first chance you get, once you've committed there's no turning back. For me it's the only way to enjoy android.

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The thread I mentioned before was for people who didn't want to root and the potential alternatives to using rooted apps and zips. Like I said, worth a look.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zurkx:
no the real benefit is knox with its app store and management platform. its awesome.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dlads:
? Really?

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Knox is an abomination. No one benefits from knox
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3kgt:
I dont use Touchwiz.. Thow i dont think that it sucks as much as some say! Its okey for beginners or "normal" users..

But personally i use nova prime wich is much faster and love the fact that u can backup and take it to the next phone.. U have Okej google in it as well.

I will try to live without root, thow i love skipping adds, removing blotware, Xposed, Call recording, and many other goodys.. Thow i never install costum rooms, personalt i think sammy rooms are okey but need some cleaning.

Hopefully we will get some root method soon :s

Will even call samsung service and make sure about knox and warrenty..but knowing myself i wont be able to wait too loong without rooting.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zurkx:
yes really. knox is such an abdomination that google is adopting it for all android versions in the future. so get over it.

its very useful and allows excellent control over the phone and privacy as well.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3kgt:
Im with u there.. Its good 2 have it, But You should be able 2 download it IF you want to!

Now with a stock Sammy phone u will see that it has many parts open and runing in background even thow i dont use it!

And i think if sammy wants more costumers, then they should really skip the knox warranty **** :S I pay about 650-750$ for a New phone every year and its should be 100% mine to controll as i wish. They should for example say if knox is void, then no software warranty is givven, but hardware still should be there as loong as user is not dum and have messed with settings to FU the hardware...
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tb5...:
can you elaborate or a link? or let me know what to search to find out more about this.

just want to know if its worth the root or not.

are you rooted?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dlads:
Attitude much? They can keep it. I'll be rooting and thus tripping knox on every single phone I have. Can't see HTC adopting knox and that'll be my next phone anyway.

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More to the point can you elaborate on exactly what knox brings to the table besides a corporate secure structure, as a consumer there is no benefit at all. Can you explain what you're saying?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zurkx:
sure. sign up for knox express free at samsungknox.com .. im not rooted obviously.

heres what it looks like :

knox has an entire separate app store with only secure apps. a stripped down and fast encrypted personality (basically a second phone with no bloat). seamless switching. secure email and separate invisible device storage. secure calendars and notes. device tracking and logging. remote wipe and remote lock/unlock. there is literally a multi hundred page manual for all the functionality available.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dlads:
and for the bloke who just wants to buy a phone, root it, install cyanogen mod and then reverse it if an error which was not caused by rooting happens and then he can't return it because knox is tripped? What about then? Not everyone gives a crap about security on this level, not everyone wants a corporate structure either, infact not everyone worries about the FBI worrying about them?!?

In-fact the majority of users who go into a shop to buy a phone with a tinkering mind, who simply just want to buy a phone they can root and put some customisations on it like xposed, or even just to remove some bloat, in that respect for them and for probably a bunch of people here on XDA including myself and yourself unless you work for the government (in which case you would only be using this device unrooted as you're on a corporate scheme) this is worthless junk which adds something which no one here will ever need, besides a select few.

Let me tell you something which is being forgotten as time goes on, the whole principle behind Android is CHOICE, this is why people who buy android are avoiding apple, they want to choose what happens on their phones and not have someone else tell them what to do, by doing this they are essentially taking that away from people and thus losing the essence of what makes android android.

It's a shame that this has happened and it's even worse that people like yourselves can't see the bigger picture and whom actually support it and it's implications to ourselves and freedom of choice, at the end of the day a high end phone will cost you around £500, that's not peanuts to most.

Think about it.

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And before you think i'm just bashing you, i simply am saying how i feel about being told what to do, even if the upside is something which I can use to avoid detection in the real world, I'm not hiding anything but if this is the way things are going then i'd rather do without.

Having this amount of security as a choice is amazing, being forced to have it is kind of like living in north korea.

Google has gone far enough with what they've been doing, this is a little too much.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alessandro_xda:
let me put my 2 cents...

i've rooted every single phone i had (even the note3 when the towel root came out), but on my note4 i'm didn't.

one of the reasons is that i don't want to waste my 700€ voiding my warranty

the other reason (that should be the most important for 3kgt since he has a company phone) is the secure environment that your company can decide to use.

if your company decides to deploy apps on your phone using knox you'll be definitely unable to use the phone!

bye
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3kgt:
Thanks mate, but i didnt mention that i bouhgt it fo myself by the company ;)

Sure i use it in work as well, but not that kind wich needs knox.

And i agre with Dladz that Android is about freedom and knox is not a nice part of it.. I will Root my N4 for sure, but will first talk to Samsung service + might wait for a better way or if someone makes a way 2 root without tripping knox. It sucks that most big koders seems to have left rooting in order 2 work for Google or others :s
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dlads:
It's probably never going to happen, it's never say never but I'd say it's improbable.

At the end of the day it's you who decides what you want from your device, I can be like a child when someone else can do something I can't and for that very reason I rooted and am now running cm12, which is superb. I'm not on any government watch lists so I think I'll be OK.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zurkx:
if you want to tinker you have google play edition phones. no one is forcing you to buy a samsung. there are tons of other manufacturers.

if you say you would like a choice -- then why are you forcing your choice on me ? I would like the choice to have a completely locked down and encrypted phone which is private to me. samsung gives me that. hard encryption, locked down bootloader, efuse protection to prevent tampering, hard bricking if the phone is stolen.

the choice to use it is mine. given that google is agreeing with me and most androids past lollipop will have knox built in by default, the makers of android think this is a good thing as well.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dlads:
I have one question. Why the hell are you even on XDA? Why did you make an account if you essentially should have a blackberry? I'm not forcing anything upon you, if anything I'm forcing CHOICE upon you, nothing more, if you can't accept that then perhaps you'd be happier with an iPhone. Also you said GOOGLE, not just Samsung, Samsung hasn't always been a **** about locking things down, they haven't always had knox, the very fact that they've imposed this Knox upon us means they've destroyed and forgotten about everything that android stands for, I promise you, this is my last Samsung phone, my next phone will be HTC, hands down. After that, I'd say it'll more than likely be a nexus, I've had every single high end android phone since the G1, check my sig for records. I love android, but this goes against the grain, this is not android, this is apple esq and you'd be better suited watching iTunes update an iPhone rather than talk about modding android phones..do yourself a favour, either stop replying (because you're being owned) or talk sense..

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No one here wants a locked down POS, a black phone would be bought if that was the case not a knox ridden Samsung box.

I bought a note because I wanted the pace and extra memory, I thought id like the pen but i don't, cm12 had been this phones savior away from that nasty OS touchwiz, I knew it was a mistake over the m8 and for some of the fools like yourself I've met here. I'll be giving this 6 inch lump of knox crap to my daughter come August and i'll be getting an M9 and joining the android party, you have fun in your safe room sending secure emails to your secure missus.

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gl with that
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zurkx:
i am on XDA because i do have rooted phones - but the note 4 is not among them.

blackberry does not have a modern dual personality phone. and yes by definition forcing chocie on someone means youre making a decision for them - its not a choice at all. if i want a locked down phone forcing your particular "choice" doesnt get me a locked down phone.

lol - im sure your daughter will love the security of knox and appreciate it.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alessandro_xda:
In my opinion samsung is just trying to make besiness on company phones.

Today the most businessmen own an iphone because the feeling is that android phones are toys for baby geeks and samsung is trying to change this feeling.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zabumba:
The main reason why I choose Android over ios (Apple) was the freedom Android OS allowed. Unfortunately Samsung is following Apple in that matter. Knox is useless for the vast majority of consumers including myself. For most of us here in xda the freedom of doing with our phones what we want and no what some manufacturer want us to do is one of the main reasons we join to this community. I agree with [MENTION=2880355]dladz[/MENTION] Android is (or should be) all about freedom of choice but unfortunately many manufacturers seems to forgot about that. So my next phone wouldn't probably be a Samsung.

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dlads:
And that's cool, I agree, so they should make it an option. You go for knox you lock it down, it shouldn't be a mandatory extra which you're forced to take, which makes you lose warranty on your expensive device

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Why not a choice though? Surely a phone can give you the security you need or the flexible open source, customizable readiness were used to. How about a disclaimer on first boot which requires you to activate knox if you plan to use it for corporate reasons, maybe saying afterwards WARNING! THIS CANNOT BE SWITCHED OFF! This would retain warranty give people a choice and give the best of both worlds albeit a single choice which cannot be reversed.

I could live with that
[AT&T LG G3] troy_glenn:
OK so I am trying the new root method and was able to push all files to my device. The device is recognized and can start when booted into the system. However, when I put my device into download mode and checked to see what port the device was on I got an error message: ">reg query HKLM\hardware\devicemap\SERIALCOMM 'reg' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file." I then went to the original command prompt and punched in "adb.exe devices" and had no results. I went to my Device Manager and discovered that I had "Error 10: Device Could Not Start". I uninstalled and re installed the drivers, rebooted my phone into download mode, double checked that USB Debugging was active and that the phone was MTP data transfer. Manually reinstalled drivers and nothing seems to fix the issue.....I appreciate any help that is given :)

EDIT: I am trying to root 20F (Lollipop)
[AT&T LG G3] noteespirit:
did you resolve the issue???
[AT&T LG G3] adosin:
Not sure if this will work or not... But I've had some luck with the old LG drivers. Uninstall your current driver and give it a shot... http://www.multiupload.nl/XEY2YR3L0I Not sure if that link works. May have to find. Lg mobile driver 3.8.1. Will upload it myself if I ever get around to it..
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nbdysreal:
I factory img flashed to 5.0.1 and sideloaded 5.1 to run completely stock. I enabled Allow OEM Unlock in developer options even though i'm unlocked, out of paranoia seeing what other people are running into.

Now the questions...

Any one else that has updated, is Allow OEM Unlock staying enabled on reboot? Mine isn't and i thought it did on 5.0.*.

Any one still on 5.0.* is your Allow OEM Unlock enabled after reboot?

Thanks.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nbdysreal:
Update: Flashed back to 5.0.1 factory and the Allow OEM unlock is persistent through reboots. 5.1 did not for me. Can someone on 5.1 reboot and see if allow stay on for them? I'm wondering if this is the reason people are losing access to flash in fastboot. Maybe a bug...
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Evo_Shift:
It resets on me. Boot loader remains unlocked. As long as the boot loader is unlocked what does that setting even do? I figured it was just for the first time you ever unlocked.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elreydenj:
Mine does not stay checked upon reboot. Anyone else?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nbdysreal:
It resets on 5.1. It stays on 5.0.*. That setting allows you to unlock. Seems several people are being "relocked" after loading 5.1. Idk what this means yet.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Intub8:
I was able to get it to stick on 5.1 , first I rebooted with my password enabled and it did not stick. Once I removed the screen lock password and re-enabled allow OEM unlock toggle it stuck through the reboot. Hope this helps.

Edit: I was wrong. If I go into developer options immediately after reboot OEM unlock is still enabled, if I go out and back in it is reset.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
I think these people are locking the bootloader themselves.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elreydenj:
The toggle just resets. You still have an unlocked boot loader. Not sure why the toggle reverts upon reboot.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doitright:
This ^^^

Who cares about the toggle? Once you have it unlocked, you'd have to be entirely MAD to re-lock it. First thing I always do with a Nexus, is unlock it.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Yep, the problem is in their quest to resolve their issues (for some inexplicable reason) they seem to be doing it. No idea why they do it, but it's ruined things for them
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the_rooter:
I agree with this I think people when reverting back to take the ota think that they have to have it lock. You dont have to do this. I for sure dont.

I honestly think that people are locking it back themselves. I also just for myself make sure that toggle is ticked to be safe.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Some of the therads I read, they certainly stated that they relocked it themselves. I can't see the update doing that in the other cases to be honest
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] razrus:
I was sitting on my couch yesterday, and my nexus 10 froze up. This is pretty normal as it freezes up alot and i have to hold the power button down for 10 seconds and restart it. But it went to the bootloader screen and now its stuck in there. I have never rooted my device or have never even attempted to, my device has been stock since day 1. Pushing the RECOVERY MODE, RESTART BOOTLOADER, START buttons do nothing but restart the device into bootloader. I have searched up and down these forums for a solution and cannot find anything, everything thats related with this problem is because of a ROOT, once again i did not root or have ever attempted to root my device. please help. here is a youtube video with the problem. BTW my device is not recognized in windows either.

Edit: so i cant post a video cause im new on the sight. Im really stuck on what to do here.