yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Wear OS General] iAppleDev:
So after a day of testing on my new moto360 :) connection with moto360 to iPhone - works but yes there is something weird going on, it disconnects lots compared to LG watch and so now the hunt begins ;)
[Wear OS General] dexter69:
Hey everyone, sorry for the really really n00bish question, but it's driving me mental...

I've a Galaxy Note3 used as an initial host, along with a Galaxy Gear sm-v700, downloaded the Android Wear app to phone, as well as the most recent ios connect app - so when I'm trying to Sync Data between both using AW, nothing happens, it just sticks on the Syncing Data screen on phone.

If I click back, it looks like the AW app isn't actually connecting to the watch - also, if I back out to the main screen there are constant Connecting/Disconnecting messages in the notifications area of phone.

Latest version of Android, and latest version on watch - anyone any ideas why AW won't connect to watch (even though it's paired) ?

I've reset watch, "forgot" pairing, uninstalled/reinstalled AW, but nothing helps...

Help!
[Wear OS General] arno93:
Galaxy gear doesn't have android wear as OS but tizen.
[Wear OS General] dexter69:
It used to, it's been downgraded back to Android...
[Wear OS General] arno93:
Yes but it's not the Android Wear version.
[Wear OS General] therddler:
[MENTION=6614388]GuiyeC[/MENTION] is there anymore features or functionality that you have planned for your app?
[Wear OS General] AndyInParadise:
Battery life

I have had both Pebbles and was not too excited to get another square smartwatch. After looking through this thread I saw potential in what Android Wear could do with an iPhone. After one week with a Moto 360 I have fallen in love with the round face and it feels more comfortable to wear than the Pebble Steel.

I am using 1.6.1 on a Jailbroken iPhone 6 running 8.1.2.

It connects easily but only lasts a couple of hours at most, but while it is connected it works perfectly.

Once the connection issue is sorted it will be exactly what I need.

A final question, does the type of watch face influence the battery life?

I have changed watch faces and it seems to have halved the battery life.

Keep up the great work and I look forward to the next version.
[Wear OS General] vetvito:
The momentum has really changed around here.

Anyone heard from this guy:

https://mobile.twitter.com/MohammadAG
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Yeah it definitely has slowed down. At this point I'm not even really hoping for much more with this, I'm more focused on counting down the days to Google's I/O thing, and hoping they come to our rescue.
[Wear OS General] telmo.santos.794:
[emoji122]

Enviado do meu iPhone usando o Tapatalk
[Wear OS General] chundrik:
Can any one share a working solution ?

What actualy is working , whats not , and which is the best ?

I`ve seen the Android waer utility from cydia , but it seems to only control the music .

Any thing to give notification and other stuff?
[Wear OS General] swyner:
I got in trouble from some users for saying what I thought about his "solution". But man, seems that others have got an App Store App (Wearaday) so there is really no other excuse except he's not focusing on it at all. That is fine but to start off with "hey look what I can do" then not respond or even just say "hey, no time" or "hey, trouble with App Store again" is frustrating. Oh well, GuiyeC's version works well enough on LG G Watch R so I am happy.
[Wear OS General] FutureBSD:
I currently have trouble getting things working on the Zenwatch. Can anyone already confirm that it is working with this watch as well and which combination works best (there are currently two versions in the play store)?

Update: Problem solved after seeing that there was the lollipop update available.
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Huh? How did you get the new Android Wear update, was it released today? Or you mean lolipop update for your phone/tablet/computer?
[Wear OS General] FutureBSD:
It's not the 5.1 release, just 5.0.2.

That should be available for everyone via OTA?
[Wear OS General] rjohnstone:
Android Wear has been on Lollipop for months now. Current Wear version is 5.0.2

What we're waiting for is 5.1.x and WiFi being enabled.
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Yeah, no, I know all of this.

Its just that he said "Problem solved after seeing that there was the lollipop update available", and since 5.1.x should be out any day now (the rumor had said today actually) and saying 'the lollipop update' is pretty vague since it could mean any number of 5.xx updates, I assumed he was talking about the impending update, not an old one from a few months ago.
[Wear OS General] FutureBSD:
Ha, sorry for the confusion. Just received my watch today.

If you guys have some most have things for the watch, I'd be very interested in knowing those (preferred via pm to keep this post clean)
[Wear OS General] firehawk:
The reason this thread has been mostly stagnant is because it does everything anyone has asked for (except for moto 360), and there haven't been requests for extended features.

Other than that, the only posts remaining are the kind like this: "Installed latest version on my moto 360. Cuts out every 20 minutes. Please fix"

And unless the fix is in a tweaked ROM, root level, or a new update from Google Android Wear, the only "fix" you will likely be seeing is some Wear App hack which polls for reconnection. Hardly the solution anyone wants, since

a) this means notifications will be delayed by poll, and reduced to pull style instead of push.

b) these 360 hacks potentially ruin the battery life for any of the other 6 Android Wear watches which use proper bluetooth stacks.

All we can hope for the future is

a) some other implementations from other people that have nicer/easier to use UI or new features

b) a possible official implementation from Google

c) a MAGICAL Moto 360 fix

TLDR: Stop asking to fix Moto 360 20-minute cutouts. We all know it doesn't work, and it likely will never work (unless someone hacks up a ROM, root configuration, or blows us away with an "I somehow got it to work using an APK" post)
[Wear OS General] Crem:
Honestly, my Moto 360 connection is far better than you described. I've went days with 3-4 hour connection time, back to back. Sometimes it's 20-30 minutes, but the next connection could be 5 hours. I'ts really random.
[Wear OS General] firehawk:
That's good to hear! Some of the previous comments from people made it sound like it was unusable...

I'm curious how close it is to the "ideal" experience, where notifications always show up in realtime, and the watch doesn't ever disconnect except when out of range, or either watch/iPhone get shutdown/rebooted.

Just for the purposes of compiling a Moto 360 user wishlist...What inconveniences do you still have left to deal with? What experience would a newbie to the forum expect out of a 360?

Does the watch vibrate/inform you that it's disconnected after a random interval (from 20 mins to 5 hrs), and it reconnects with one tap on the watch face without having to pick up the iPhone, launch an app, or repair? Do the notifications show up in realtime, but when it disconnects, they queue up and show up all at once upon reconnection?
[Wear OS General] slpro:
A vibration disconnect would be welcome for all watches! :)
[Wear OS General] wez_db:
shiitakeo just posted a 2.1 version to github.

-support music control without jailbreak iPhone. (don't need my cydia app.but, my app is little better than BLE Utility.)

-setting time(need rooted wear device)

-improve reconnection seaquence

—

View it on GitHub.
[Wear OS General] iAppleDev:
[MENTION=6499164]shiitakeo[/MENTION] nice update ;) music player now shows playing song info on music control page. But still not showing all app Notifications like Pinterest, TextMe,etc, but I'm sure it can be fixed
[Wear OS General] chundrik:
Well , so far i could only use the wear connect , some why the "android_wear_works_with_ios" thing doesnt work for me at all , cant get a connection.

and the wear connect works fine over all when its connected but it disconnect every 20 min or so.

I use Moto 360.
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Yes, welcome to page 87 of us Moto 360 users mentioning our constant disconnects. You'll get use to it, not much that can be done it seems.
[Wear OS General] iAppleDev:
I just got my Moto 360 other day and yes it has an issue! But this is what I've done to make it work for now I renamed my iPhone in the setting/general/about page to "BLE Utility" and it seems to stay connected much better, I also am now trying both ios wear connect apps together with one blocked from the notifications, and is way better so far.

I think the problem is with the way that the apps are connecting to the iPhone Bluetooth LE only and using the BLE Utility as device name to connect but the classic bluetooth name is the name of the device not "BLE Utility", so it's trying to connect to Bluetooth LE but the device name gets changed to the iPhone's real device names in settings!?? I think if we pair the watch the same as the pebble watch with an Classic Bluetooth connection for the music, battery, etc and an Bluetooth LE connection for the ANSC service?

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Try renaming your iPhone in Setting/general/about to BLE Utility It seems to help!
[Wear OS General] sw6lee:
Hi guys,

1. Which of the two Android wear for iOS apps do you recommend? I saw roykutya's video from April that his app (I think is the teal colour icon with a cloud) is able to auto reconnect if it disconnects. If this works with Moto 360, then it would be really awesome because taking out iPhone and opening up BLE Utility and tap on Peripheral every time it disconnects is pretty annoying. If it's able to reconnect on its on it would be great. Is this possible?

2. Also, I'm actually currently using the other app, light blue coloured Wear Connect app, and as someone above suggested, I changed my iPhone name to BLE Utility, and it seems to work pretty well, but It's been only about an hour or so, so I'm not sure if it's going to disconnect on its own. Does this app also have a auto reconnect feature?

3. Also, with the app in question 2, I'm unable to control music on my wear that's playing on iPhone. Is this because I'm using Google Play Music app? I don't have any music stored in the Apple's music player. No music notification shows up on my watch when playing with Play Music app.

Thanks in advance for your help!
[Wear OS General] iAppleDev:
Music player works with both apps!

This app is best for moto360 so far that I can tell ;) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.codegy.wearconnectforios&hl=en
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Agreed. But if you have a moto 360, it will disconnect a lot, and no, it usually won't reconnect, you have to do it yourself
[Wear OS General] chundrik:
Changing the name didn't help me at all , it still disconnect every 20 min or so , some times even less.

And Iam still not able to connect using Wear_for_ios any one can help ?

Download the app , enabled Bluetooth debugging just in case , open app on the watch , open BLE utility and nothing happens , tried light blue added blank and nothing again.

The app it self however seems to work when i connect using the wear connect , but it still disconnects ...

Really a shame i was so excited over the idea i can use Moto360 with my 6+.

Honestly if no fix will be found for this ill probably sell it and either get WatchR or the damen apple watch.
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Well no, there is no fix, getting it to connect for 20min before disconnecting is just the reality at this point for moto360.

I may return my Moto as well, depending on whether or not the rumor about Google introducing an iOS app for Wear at I/O in two weeks is true.

Because honestly, as nice as it is to have the watch connect to our iPhones (even if only for 20 minutes), these apps that we're talking about here aren't really enough to make me stick with the watch.

Getting txt msg notifications where I then have to go and pull my phone out of my pocket to reply to them isn't really useful.

At least if Google releases a proper app, we'll have access to Google services like maps and responding to Gmail from the watch.

So I wouldn't base your disappointments or whether or not to return your watch on these apps here, these are just here to keep us nerding out on something until Google releases something worthwhile. And if they don't, or if what they release isn't anything really remarkable, then I'll consider returning.

Guess it also just depends on what you want from your watch.
[Wear OS General] chundrik:
Yea for the most part you are right , I wanted the watch for steps count , Heart rate , notifications mostly.

But notifications with the 20 min disconnect thing isnt working for me at all , and the other 2 just isnt worth that much on their on to keep it.

Really hope that google with indeed release some thing in the IO
[Wear OS General] netchema:
I am getting connection times of 5 to 6 hours on the Moto 360 with the application of GuiyeC, Ble Utility, and BTNotificationEnabler with jailbreak iphone 6+.
[Wear OS General] Matchstic:
I'm afraid BTNotificationEnabler won't be doing anything on your device; it's not compiled for arm64, so it's .dylib's won't be loaded.
[Wear OS General] 2.0t03speed:
is their something i'm doing wrong ? my phone connects successfully but i only get vibrations and never pop up cards. This is with the moto 360 btw. The music card is always first and i have to swipe past that to see what the notification that came in was.
[Wear OS General] briwil:
I've never gotten anything close to those time on my iPhone 6 with BLE Utility and Guiye's Connect Wear.
[Wear OS General] firehawk:
I would think, if Google were to introduce anything, it would be built into the ROM instead of being an app. Like a new feature of Android Wear 5.2 or 5.1.x or whatever... And judging from the timeline between the last two updates (5.0.2 and 5.1) it will take at least another 3 months before it gets released.

Not to mention that if it requires a companion iOS app for any reason, that may never pass through Apple's bouncer.
[Wear OS General] mgladindev:
Google has more resources and ability to get it approved.
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Yes, all true, it would require both an Android Wear update as well as a companion iOS app, just as Pebble has, just as every existing Android phone must have in order to work with an Android Wear watch now.

If they were to announce it, I would bet my money that it already exists within the newest update, 5.1.1 (which almost no one has except Urbane owners, and it could very well be released at I/O along with the announcement). I know all the rumors had said May 12 for the already announced rollout, but obviously that was wrong.

Plus people have already found references to Apple within the existing Android Wear 1.1 apk.

And while yes, Apple could be a hurdle, I don't think they will be. All that recent press about Pebble apps being rejected turned out to be false, and there are so many competing apps like Google Maps that Apple is ok with, I don't think they'd want the bad publicity of rejecting Google.

Apple Watch sales are phenomenal, I think they are pretty confident in their ability to compete with iOS-compatible Android Wear watches.
[Wear OS General] mgladindev:
All of this!
[Wear OS General] bazaglia:
GuiyeC's new version (1.7) just published: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.codegy.wearconnectforios

Now called Aerlink: Wear Connect for iOS.

Our thanks to GuiyeC. These updates involve a lot of work...
[Wear OS General] plnda:
I would love the functionality of syncing the time with my watch
[Wear OS General] briwil:
The Zen watch has started getting the new 5.1.1 update.
[Wear OS General] iAppleDev:
Did it get wifi?
[Wear OS General] FutureBSD:
I don't have a menu item "WiFi" in the settings of my Zenwatch.

Just own the watch for a couple of days and I'm already thinking of switching to another model because of this. I don't mind if I'm out of the house but at home I don't always have my phone in the pocket and there it would be really nice to get updates on the watch anyway. Then I look at the other models and I'm not satisfied with their design though. Hmm. Still have to think about it.

First impression of the update is positive I have to say. I like what they did with the menu.
[Wear OS General] briwil:
The Zen watch is one of the few that doesn't have a WIFI chip, there's nothing that can be done about that.

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Well, Zenwatch 2 is coming this fall if you can wait-

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/we...is-coming-soon-with-epic-battery-life-1293720
[Wear OS General] FutureBSD:
I read some other news a couple of days ago where an Asus Exec mentioned that there will not be another Zenwatch in 2015 anymore.

http://www.msn.com/en-ae/lifestyle/other/no-zenwatch-2-for-2015/ar-BBiPP9p

Regarding wifi chipset. As far as I remember the chipset is part of the Snapdragon. The only difference is, from what I've read, that there are no antennas for wifi.

I guess I will try out if I like the smartwatch concept at all. Before I got one I denied to buy one because I think it doesn't give me any benefits. As I'm a gadgets guy I had to buy one anyway. So let's see if they prove me wrong.
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Yeah, you're right, that's really confusing, because a month later the Asus CEO said there will be and gave some pretty specific specifications-

http://www.digitaltrends.com/wearables/asus-zenwatch-2-news/
[Wear OS General] FutureBSD:
It's good when a company speaks the same language around the world. ;)

But besides the missing WiFi I've to say it's a pretty good watch so far. Design is beautiful.

Quick off topic:

1) How was your guys opinion on Android Wear at the beginning and did it change so far? If yes, into what direction and why?

2) What was your main reason to get a smartwatch? Where did you try to benefit from it?
[Wear OS General] felix_tung:
Aerlink Moto 360

Has Moto 360 dropping issues been resolved in latest aerlink update? Seems like comments show that if battery isn't swiped away connection doesn't drop out.
[Wear OS General] guitarbrain:
Ahh...well...

I wish I could report good news but, after reading everything I could on various forums and websites, I could never get this worked out. I'm heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem but love the design of the Moto 360 and hoped I could make this work. I tried everything, including the latest Aerlink update. I could not keep my Moto 360 connected for longer than about 20-30 mins. Then the reconnect process was often inconsistent too. Some times one tap would cause reconnect in a few seconds, other times I would go through several taps and swipes, and restarts and open/close apps, turn various settings on/off, then maybe reconnect. When it did connect, it worked great (with some limitation in function that I expected from this unofficial fix). I did get email and text notification, call notification, and music function. The thousands of fantastic watch faces was also a great treat. After one week of frustration, I decided to return my Moto 360 and hope all this gets worked out soon. I'll keep searching the web each day, including this forum, for some hint that a better solution has been found. If and when that happens, back to the store I will go to buy the Moto 360 again. Also, perhaps Version 2 will be out soon. Still in search of the magic formula that would allow for my iPhone to work with this great device.
[Wear OS General] PanosMouz:
I can confirm all you write . Got the same issues and still no fix found. However, I am gonna keep my moto 360 and keep waiting and searching. Others have reported that watches other than the 360 (such as gear R) can stay connected for up to 12 hours! I hope there is a fix soon, since i love the watch a lot.
[Wear OS General] therddler:
I can get an all day sync with my Asus zen watch. Even with the five-point 1.1 update it still gets all day usage. to some it may not be aesthetically sexy but it still has all the functions and I need.
[Wear OS General] guitarbrain:
New Android Ware 5.1.1 -

I read today that the Moto 360 will get Wifi support with the new update in Android Ware 5.1.1 which started to roll out today. I would really like to get this to work with iOS. Has the update reached the Moto 360 and if so, can anyone confirm the connectivity with iOS has been corrected, or at least significantly improved?
[Wear OS General] guitarbrain:
Android Ware Update?

Have you received the new Android Ware update and has this helped at all with the iOS connectivity?
[Wear OS General] PanosMouz:
Unfortunately the Moto 360 update has not been released yet. Waiting patiently for it
[Wear OS General] briwil:
I can't imagine that this update would do much to help in terms of connecting to iOS via Aerlink, and I definitely don't think the wifi feature will help us non-android users.
[Wear OS General] mgladindev:
If they update the Bluetooth Stacks it will help immensely!!!
[Wear OS General] bogdan_wrc:
ok, read the last 10 pages..but i do not understand...whats the status (except for the 20-30min interruptions) ?

and after the 5.1.1 update? thanks
[Wear OS General] Zephiris:
can't wait Google I/O release official wear suppot for iOS device:o
[Wear OS General] felix_tung:
Gear live support

Seems like a lot of talk about the urbane and Moto 360. Anyone got any experience with the gear live? Contemplating buying the watch but worried about pairing issues on this.
[Wear OS General] Lebage:
Google I/O

iPhone 6 user here. Just took the leap of faith and bought myself a 360. Aside from the rumors from the Verge do we have any other sources that could confirm that Google: (1) has an Android Wear app in development for iOS, (2) is planning on releasing it at I/O? I've seen this rumor about a dozen times, curious about other source/why people are so confident this is a sure thing. Thanks!
[Wear OS General] Matchstic:
Can confirm that they're very likely to be working on it. I've decompiled the Google Play Services APK on the Wear side into its Java classes, and there is a ton of references to ANCS, such as in the class that handles working out which type of "command" has come across to the watch. I'd be highly surprised if there wasn't an official app at this rate.
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Nope, thats it really. More of wishful thinking than anything else. If nothing is announced at IO, I'm returning my Moto the next day.

This is encouraging though!
[Wear OS General] Lebage:
Thanks for that! If they stay on course, I'm curious what the Apple-gatekeepers in the App Store will handle this. A block would look very anti-competitive, but then again a closed marketplace of apps is itself a restraint of trade.
[Wear OS General] wez_db:
They wont block it, as they are also not doing so for Pebble. Depending on the proposed app they might stonewall it a bit if google tries to incorporate some play store thing into it. Otherwise it'll be fine i guess. Might take 1 or 2 retries but as Lebage also said, Apple doesn't want the bad publicity either.
[Wear OS General] Lebage:
I was reading that Apple recently rejected an app for mentioning the Pebble "platform." But it appears the app is back on the App Store, with the same reference to Pebble that Apple alleged was the very reason it was rejected in the first place. And the rejection was a little over 2 weeks ago. IMO it was denied by mistake and Apple blinked to the pressure, very quickly at that.
[Wear OS General] groovy2312:
LG G Watch 5.1.1

I just received the new update for my lg g watch
[Wear OS General] iAppleDev:
And? No wifi? :( what did it add? Maybe try paring it to iPhone with wear connect app running? Maybe it will just work ;)
[Wear OS General] groovy2312:
No wifi

Well i think this update just need a apps companion because is alway trying to reconnecting when is disconected from the android device.