yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Topics] ekto:
Many thanks to those of you who have made contributions!

We're starting to get there, but we still need more devices and howto's added. If anyone could help with this it would be much appreciated! :)
[General Topics] rajib:
where did it go?

site down..

i just saw this thread, and wished to check the site, should be interesting. but alas
[Micromax A110] QA Bot:
[Q&A] [RECOVERY][CWMR 6.0.2.8][CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY][MICROMAX A110][24 march 2013]

Q&A for [RECOVERY][CWMR 6.0.2.8][CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY][MICROMAX A110][24 march 2013]

Some developers prefer that questions remain separate from their main development thread to help keep things organized. Placing your question within this thread will increase its chances of being answered by a member of the community or by the developer.

Before posting, please use the forum search and read through the discussion thread for [RECOVERY][CWMR 6.0.2.8][CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY][MICROMAX A110][24 march 2013]. If you can't find an answer, post it here, being sure to give as much information as possible (firmware version, steps to reproduce, logcat if available) so that you can get help.

Thanks for understanding and for helping to keep XDA neat and tidy! :)
[Micromax A110] Rishabh Dhiman:
The link redirects to dev-host which installs adware. Any other idea?

---------- Post added at 05:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:20 PM ----------

Any other link for downloading ?
[General Questions and Answers] fjodorowitsch:
Is there a maintained list, maybe even here on XDA, of devices running stock or almost stock Android? Would be helpful to keep an overview. Thank you!
[General Questions and Answers] LS.xD:
You mean "AOSP" ???
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] /dev/0:
Problem solved!

If you want to remove the encryption under Cyanogen Mod 12 on /data read post 1 & 2

Please note, that the device path may vary between different versions of Android and devices! So before you brick your toy ask for help ;)

Hi,

I tried to encrypt my Samsung Galaxy S4 i9506 on Cyanogen Mod 12, which failed. So I started to undo the encryption by formatting /data, which failed too under TWRP Recovery and CWM (all versions from index thread HERE ).

Well, GUIs suck anyway and Android is kind of a penguin so why not use the shell.

# cat /etc/fstab
/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/cache /cache ext4 rw
/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/userdata /data ext4 rw
/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/system /system ext4 rw

# blkid
/dev/block/vold/179:65: UUID="E0F8-9FAE" TYPE="vfat"
/dev/block/mmcblk1p1: UUID="E0F8-9FAE" TYPE="vfat"
/dev/block/mmcblk0p25: UUID="57f8f4bc-abf4-655f-bf67-946fc0f9f25b" TYPE="ext4"
/dev/block/mmcblk0p24: UUID="57f8f4bc-abf4-655f-bf67-946fc0f9f25b" TYPE="ext4"
/dev/block/mmcblk0p23: UUID="57f8f4bc-abf4-655f-bf67-946fc0f9f25b" TYPE="ext4"
/dev/block/mmcblk0p22: UUID="57f8f4bc-abf4-655f-bf67-946fc0f9f25b" TYPE="ext4"
/dev/block/mmcblk0p21: UUID="57f8f4bc-abf4-655f-bf67-946fc0f9f25b" TYPE="ext4"
/dev/block/mmcblk0p11: UUID="57f8f4bc-abf4-655f-bf67-946fc0f9f25b" TYPE="ext4"
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2: UUID="00BC-614E" TYPE="vfat"
/dev/block/mmcblk0p1: UUID="00BC-614E" TYPE="vfat"

Ok, that’s unexpected! I can't determine which partition I should format to get rid of encrypted /data , so can you please help me to find the right target for the format command?

Edit:

Hi again,

some additions:

# parted /dev/block/mmcblk0
GNU Parted 1.8.8.1.179-aef3
Using /dev/block/mmcblk0
Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.
(parted) print
print
Model: MMC MAG2GC (sd/mmc)
Disk /dev/block/mmcblk0: 15.8GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: gpt

Number Start End Size File system Name Flags
1 4194kB 19.9MB 15.7MB apnhlos
2 19.9MB 80.2MB 60.2MB modem
3 80.2MB 80.7MB 524kB sbl1
4 80.7MB 80.7MB 32.8kB dbi
5 80.7MB 80.7MB 32.8kB ddr
6 80.7MB 82.8MB 2097kB aboot
7 82.8MB 83.4MB 524kB rpm
8 83.4MB 83.9MB 524kB tz
9 83.9MB 94.4MB 10.5MB pad
10 94.4MB 105MB 10.5MB param
11 105MB 120MB 14.7MB ext4 efs
12 120MB 123MB 3146kB modemst1
13 123MB 126MB 3146kB modemst2
14 126MB 147MB 21.0MB boot
15 147MB 168MB 21.0MB recovery
16 168MB 178MB 10.5MB fota
17 178MB 186MB 7331kB backup
18 186MB 189MB 3146kB fsg
19 189MB 189MB 1024B fsc
20 189MB 189MB 8192B ssd
21 189MB 197MB 8389kB ext4 persist
22 197MB 210MB 12.6MB ext4 persdata
23 210MB 2600MB 2391MB ext4 system
24 2600MB 2967MB 367MB ext4 cache
25 2967MB 3177MB 210MB ext4 hidden
[B]26 3177MB 15.8GB 12.6GB userdata[/B]

(parted)

Am I right, that /dev/block/mmcblk0p26 is the data Partition? So format on the Partion with ext4 should end my problems?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] /dev/0:
Problem solved

Ok,

I'm realy bad at waiting, so I got a old phone and reproduced my problem. It was enough to just write a ext4 filesystem to /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/userdata by using (via adb of course)

# mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/userdata

I was curios about the device path, it was new to me, that /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/userdata is a valid path.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] txv0:
My stock music player is not detecting music that I add to a folder I made called 'Music'. I'm wondering if the mediascanner is not working properly? I can see music files on my cloud services while using the music player...just not any files on my device. I can play the file if I go into File Manager and start it from there. My file manager will not detect said music files under the Music Tab either though (it does shows ringtones I downloaded from Zedge).

I recently removed a .nomedia file but I'm not sure if this has any impact on this matter?
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dgm_mixtoon:
Hello fellow! I'm new! :) on this great page, I wanted to know how I can do to revive my moto g not passing of fastboot! everything bad is not Flash anything from nothing, stock formware nothing downgrade or even the recovery starts! This imei on zeros and the model also is there any way to make it work as before?

my moto g is a verizon cdma xt1028 method o any way to solve this big problem hear it all give! T_T thanks in advance and greetings new colleagues

Sorry for my bad English
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brawn_Sg:
Hii welcome to XDA

Sad to hear that ur device is not working

But basically what happened

That its not starting

Was it rooted
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dgm_mixtoon:
hi, I use a program to destroy fastboot and a program to restore called MotoFlasher and now does not flashing, says boot up failed

failed to validate boot image

failed to validate recovery image

is not rooted

:crying::confused:
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brawn_Sg:
Use mfastboot v2

Its important

Dont use any software

All d best

No worries man

At least its booting to boot loader
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dgm_mixtoon:
target max-sparse-size: 256MB

sending 'logo' (76 KB)...

OKAY [ 0.057s]

writing 'logo'...

(bootloader) Permission denied

FAILED (remote failure)

finished. total time: 0.092s

says failed with all commands
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brawn_Sg:
Go to boot loader again....boot it

And tell me d status code there

0 1 or 3
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dgm_mixtoon:
Device is locked. Status code: 0
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brawn_Sg:
Oh man u r really new here

Its really easy to fix

First unlock ur motorola boot loader

Search for it on YouTube

Unlock the boot loader

Then use mfastboot v2

It will surely work

Press thanx plz

---------- Post added at 11:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:11 PM ----------

And one tip :

Plz learn things before doing

All d best

Enjoy ur moto g

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eapiGrLIoPs

See this video for help

-;--------------------------

Press thanx if I helped
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dgm_mixtoon:
previously it was never legible by motorola and now the bootloader nothing of unlock code see:

C:\Users\R Y V SUP\Desktop\fastboot v2> mfastboot oem get unlock data

...

(bootloader) 'get' is not a supported oem command

(bootloader) See 'fastboot oem help'

FAILED (remote failure)

finished. total time: 0.020s

:(

without m fastboot

C:\CFC-fastboot_falcon_verizon_user_4.4.4_KXB21.14-L1.41_42_release-keys.xml>fas

tboot oem get_unlock_data

...

(bootloader) Could not get unlock data!

OKAY [ 0.020s]

finished. total time: 0.022s
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dgm_mixtoon:
i need to destroy bootloader and flash again in downloader mode:rolleyes:
[General Questions and Answers] JugoBernal:
Do you know how to root ang use supersu on cm excalibur? I want to use stickmount on it
[General Questions and Answers] LS.xD:
Kingoroot will do it. Once rooted you can switch to SuperSU .

If the easy way doens't work, check out THIS
[LG G Pro 2] johnnyyh:
NOW WE CAN ROOT OUR BE LOVE GPRO 2 D838. ALL THANKS TO UNJUSTIFIED DEV.

HERE IS HOW TO ROOT.

http://xdaforums.com/android/development/guide-root-method-lg-devices-t3049772

THIS METHOD ROOT MY D838 STOCK KDZ.

WORK PERFACTLY.
[LG G Pro 2] surya.putra:
Thanks for sharing mate
[LG G Pro 2] ray-lee:
thanks. does it work for Lollipop D838 models? It looks like it should... but thought i'd ask.
[LG G Pro 2] zoreli:
Its works , successfully rooted my D838 :good:

Now its time to some good developer make a working custom recovery for 5.0.1
[LG G Pro 2] mephike:
Working!!
[LG G Pro 2] johnnyyh:
I have rooted my D838 lollipop with this linked method.
[LG G Pro 2] aftermath85:
thanks for sharing! do we have twrp too??? please share the link.. thanks
[LG G Pro 2] ray-lee:
D838, stock rom, 5.0.1. Rooted now using this method. Works fine.
[LG G Pro 2] johnnyyh:
Here you go. Custom recovery for your Lollipop.

Since you have rotted, just enable USB debugging and run d838recovery.bat.

You will have permanent recovery on your Lollipop.

If you want to enter, press volume up and power till korean word appear then release both button.

You are in recovery in chinese language.

Only this recovery can access Ext SD so far. Enjoy.
[LG G Pro 2] johnnyyh:
Update: https://drive.google.com/drive/#folders/0B5uvL4aVsm_fRXV1Y1AzZndrMFU
[LG G Pro 2] johnnyyh:
No TWRP but here you go https://drive.google.com/drive/#folders/0B5uvL4aVsm_fRXV1Y1AzZndrMFU chinese version custom recovery for lollipop.

Enable USB debugging mode and run d838recovery.bat. You will have permanent coustom recovery on your D838 lollipop.

This recovery can access Ext SD card. Enjoy!!!! Please hit thank if it help.
[LG G Pro 2] zoreli:
Thanks :) , but can someone translate this recovery to english , I dont understand chinese language ... and Im afraid to install something what I dont understand and I dont want to brick my phone by press something by mistake :o .
[LG G Pro 2] kvaka22:
My friend, you dont understand chines language, hm, very strange ;)
[LG G Pro 2] enkhtwshn:
This folder doesn't exist or you no longer have permission to access it.

Share it man
[LG G Pro 2] johnnyyh:
Try this link and revert. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5uvL4aVsm_fU1VDbGJIT0QwakE/view?usp=sharing
[LG G Pro 2] johnnyyh:
I have used this recovery and ofcause I am not responsible for your phone brick. But it very easy to follow the flashing method. After flash you can translate using google. This recovery quite good. I got it from bbs chinese forum. I use google to translate.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5uvL4aVsm_fU1VDbGJIT0QwakE&authuser=0

The link for recovery in case you can't access previous link.
[LG G Pro 2] enkhtwshn:
thanks man
[Galaxy Tab 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samxel:
I cant seems to find a pit file for it to unbrick . anyone have it? or any other way to unbrick it using something else thats not odin? or any other guides on how to unbrick it?
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti] :
Q&A for [ROM][N5110] Dirty Unicorns 4.4.4 Official (07/30/14)

Some developers prefer that questions remain separate from their main development thread to help keep things organized. Placing your question within this thread will increase its chances of being answered by a member of the community or by the developer.

Before posting, please use the forum search and read through the discussion thread for [ROM][N5110] Dirty Unicorns 4.4.4 Official (07/30/14). If you can't find an answer, post it here, being sure to give as much information as possible (firmware version, steps to reproduce, logcat if available) so that you can get help.

Thanks for understanding and for helping to keep XDA neat and tidy! :)
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti] Watch Listen & Learn:
N5110 Download

Is the download for the N5110 not available anymore? I've searched high and low and don't see it anywhere on the DU download page.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti] boricuas54:
I do not see it either.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti] Gnosishunter:
*bump*
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti] TheDroidsYoureLookingFor:
Any chance to get a new download link for the most recent stable Kitkat version? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] santoshvaza:
Guys,

This device belongs to this Forum right

http://www.flipkart.com/moto-g-2nd-...+gen&ref=92484d2d-ea1d-4c51-8997-24ec38a822de

Couple of questions.

CM11, 12 officially supported for this device?

And

CM11, 12 officially supported to Moto E 2nd Gen (4G) version?
[G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Duck86:
Yes, and a quick look at the threads here would have answered your questions. Stop posting pointless threads.
[Ornate TrueSmart] stanelie:
Hello.

I just installed KitKat from http://xdaforums.com/omate-truesmart/development/rom-omate-truesmart-ironman-firmware-t2998434 and it looks like most apps launch in fullscreen mode and I have trouble getting the status bar back anywhere except from the default launcher.

Is there a way to disable this "fullscreen by default" setting anywhere?
[Ornate TrueSmart] gerhardo:
No, this is changed in the ROM. We do not know how it is done, the Umeox/MediaTek changes are hidden.

The change is different from 4.2, so SwipeStatusBar very seldom work.

The workaround is rooting, Xposed, GravityBox and enabling Expanded Desktop.
[Ornate TrueSmart] nilezon:
Permanent status bar

I finally have a working PoC for permanently enabling the status bar in every app, and will try to build an Xposed module to control the visibility of the status bar in these smart watches. I'll be back ;)

Edit:

I'm back.

Xposed module to enable the status bar in (most) launchers:

http://xdaforums.com/xposed/modules/truesmart-status-bar-custom-launchers-t3063624

(N.B! Only tested on a 4.4 ROM)
[ZTE Z7, Z7 Max, Z7 Mini] pedrud:
So I downloaded the FIUI rom and gave it a try. While there were some aspects that I liked, there were others that were too annoying right now. Battery life seems decent, at least compared to Mokee. I only use one SIM card at the moment, so I don't know if both work. According to what I read in some forums, the answer is yes; but I cannot confirm this.

My issues after about 6 hours use:

- Internal keyboard seems tied to some of the bloatware. Delete the bloat and delete your keyboard ( I did this before logging into play so I couldn't download another keyboard).

- No back button (most annoying thing of all!)

- Very few options for customization

Back to Mokee and bad battery life for now. :(
[ZTE Z7, Z7 Max, Z7 Mini] alain57:
I had the same issue with keyboard on another rom

kind of anoying... And I really like to first remove bloatware and then type my passwords ;)

so I left a keyboard as apk on my memory card just in case ;)

what I don't like in this rom -> the task manager appears with menu press and not with home long press this is kind of disturbing..

the task manager also has no option to kill all tasks

I'm also used to set my settings in the notification menu... here there are only the quick menus and the

notification, no settings menu :/

and last point : did not found how to have more than 3 icons at the bottom of the screen :confused:

by the way, are you speaking of mokee 4.4 or 5.0 ?
[ZTE Z7, Z7 Max, Z7 Mini] pedrud:
Mokee 4.4

I agree with the observations you make as well.
[ZTE Z7, Z7 Max, Z7 Mini] petrofsky77:
Anyone tried the latest CM12 for Z7 Max dated 16/03/2015? Care to share what works and what still does not?

http://www.needrom.com/download/cyanogenmod-12-android-v5-0-2/

thanks.
[ZTE Z7, Z7 Max, Z7 Mini] alain57:
you know that you're writing in a Z7 MINI topic right ?
[ZTE Z7, Z7 Max, Z7 Mini] petrofsky77:
Is there anywhere else I can ask? Don't see a thread for Z7 Max tho ...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Plurit:
Hi, to all. Greetings from Argentina.

I want to change the Rom of my tablet and get out from Samsung's Jelly Bean, and I am thinking about going the custom rom way.

I own a N8010 from early 2013, and lately I don’t use it a lot, but suddenly the rest of my family (wife and children) want to start using it, and honestly I do too.

The main use would be:

Surfing the web (Firefox)

Play games

Read e-books

Listening music (local and streaming)

Watching Movies/Youtube videos (not a lot)

Take pictures and record videos (ocasionally).

All the online activities are done via WIFI (because it is an N8010, only wifi model).

I don't mind losing the following functionalities

S-Pen, and all the apps related to it

S-Apps

Samsung multiwindow

I almost don’t use Bluetooth at all, neither advanced networking, just wifi access.

I need (if exists) a rom that provides this key functions:

Multiuser

Posibility to move apps to sd card (without root or link2sd, etc.)

A friend of mine have an LG G Pad 7 with LG stock Kitkat and it does have those 2 options.

So, I want to ask you, which would be the best rom that can fulfill these requirments:

Stock Samsung Kitkat - I guess not

A custom Rom based on Kitkat?

A custom Rom based on Lollipop?

CyanogenMod 11? (I know it's Kitkat too)

CyanogenMod 12 ?(I know it's Lollipop too)

Thanks in advance, and excuse my poor english.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] d4rkkn16ht:
To answer your questions:

There are no BEST ROM here.

Every ROM/Custom ROM has its own advantages.

Just try one & if it's good for you then stick with it.

If not, then try another.

"Every" Android version has multiuser ability as Android=Linux fork (At least Jelly bean is proven has multiuser, but without UI).

The only problem is the UI(User Interface) as not all Android version/ROM provide it.

I've tried multiuser in my GT-N8000 but then decided to remove it back to single user.

It consume my internal memory space too much.

Moving "apps" into microSD is a built in feature in Android, but not all app support this.

I also seen some ROM disabled it, so....again....try it yourself.

This built in "move to SD" feature has it own disadvantages though as some files are needed to be installed into internal memory it can cause the app size after moving it to SD will become slightly or significantly bigger around 10% - 40%.

And widget apps will be broken if you move it to SD.

By using ROOT,you can move it to SD without additional 10% - 40% size.

The method is called Mount Binding Folder.

Conclusion:

Read carefully before flashing any ROM

Avoid turning your device into an expensive paperweight

Try it & if it suits you, use it as your daily driver

If not, try another

If you have any questions, ASK

....Again....avoid turning your device into an expensive paperweight
[Moto 360] siburny:
It looks like Motorola decided to release this band in the end. It's listed in the Motorola Maker right now (albeit with delayed shipping notation).
[Moto 360] timvasvi:
Now I just need 3 things:

Black version

Sold Separately

In the UK
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
Exactly. I am eager to buy the Moto 360 but only if it´s with this metal band, but I live in Europe, so...

In your opinion which would go better when wearing a suit, the black or the silver option?

Cheers
[Moto 360] timvasvi:
I personally have the black case and it is very versatile. can go with casual and smart to a degree.

I think if you mainly wear suits, the silver option may be a better look to go for though as it's more classic.
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Don't know when the silver mono link metal band gets to Europe, though... Let's hope sooner than later :)
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
Any news or reviews on this out yet?

Also, the price is kind of high... Is it possible to buy some 3rd party band which similar but cheaper on a store?
[Moto 360] CJSnet:
Their comment below the following thread says they'll keep us updated on a standalone version https://plus.google.com/+Motorola/posts/McMS7YF87wQ

Thanks!

"Recordar es vivir"
[Moto 360] Deltastylez:
Is there a way I can buy a metal band from Motorola?

I live in the Netherlands, but there no option to ship there ..
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
The 24mm Monolink Metal Band is not available separately, you can only get it when buying a new smartwatch from Moto Maker site and if you are a resident in USA and UK :(

I also wanted it and ended up buying a 3rd party option in ebay, it's not the same but it's similar to the normal official Motorola metal band, costed 9 euros and it's pretty good, I definitely recommend it.

I just received my eBay metal band

http://m.ebay.com/itm/351366220700?_mwBanner=1

It came from Hong Kong and looks pretty good for such little money (9 euros). The crack back problem won't be an issue, I believe, as you can see in the last photo. Paid 2 euros for a guy on a watch store install it properly.

I would very much prefer the 24mm Monolink Metal Band but Motorola insists on not selling it separately for us that already have the watch. But considering the price I payed and comparing to the grey leather band I am very pleased :)
[Moto 360] Deltastylez:
And there a no other original metal bands I can buy separately?
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
See my edited last post
[Moto 360] Deltastylez:
Did you cracked your back? I'm so afraid to crack my back of my moto 360 ..
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
No, see the last photo, it's made especially for the Moto 360 so it folds completely and dosent stress the back part.
[Moto 360] Deltastylez:
Looks the same as a pepple steel band? :o
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
No. it looks more like the original Moto 360 metal band than with the pebble steel. This is the pebble steel metal band:
[Moto 360] Deltastylez:
Alright, and you sure it will prevent the cracked back?
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
Yes. But beware that even the stock leather band can crack the back if you use it too tight.
[Moto 360] Deltastylez:
I'll give it a try. I hope this will not crack the back!

---------- Post added at 06:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:14 PM ----------

Is there a website, where i can buy a orginal leather band?
[Moto 360] mohcho:
You can buy them off the Motorola.com site.
[Moto 360] jskim72:
Nice watch!

---------- Post added at 07:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:57 PM ----------

Me too
[Moto 360] cyberon:
Reading a lot about the pebble metal band cracking the moto back and curious if after a few months your ebay band still didn't crack the back.
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
No, it didn't. :) Probably the pebble dosent fold all the way. Also, having the bracelet too tight causes the crack, independently from the bracelet used, from what I've been reading.

Edit: I've been using this monolink knockoff for 2 weeks and have no crack also:
[Moto 360] cyberon:
That's what i thought, on many videos we can see the pebble band doesn't stay vertical as seen on your third photo. Did the jeweler cut the plastic back on your moto?

The one you are using now looks awesome, link please. ☺

Edit: does the monolink you're using now stays vertical also?
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
Theres no need to cut anything, it fits perfectly.

Here is the link for the new one: http://pt.aliexpress.com/item/High-..._78_77_80,searchweb201644_5,searchweb201560_7
[Moto 360] cyberon:
Does the new one put pressure on the plastic back? I like them both so i would prefer buying the one with the less probability to break the back.

Wich one do you recommend?
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
They both don't put pressure on the plastic back, don't worry. Buy the one you prefer. [emoji6]

Cheers