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[Wear OS General] mgladindev:
You only need the android device to install and update the applications. I would suggest buying a cheap android device that you can get lollipop on, either stock or custom ROM, this will allow you to maximize the use of the Moto360 and install fixes immediately vs having to wait and dealing bugs and missed updates on the watch.

The iPhone does not need to be jailbroken.

Notifications will work, but as far as I have seen they don't pop up, but the watch does vibrate to indicate a new notification, you just have to scroll through it.

The watch will only work with notifications. No Siri/Google Now integration or use of apps on the iPhone as of now. We are likely going to need an official google release to get that working.

MohommadAG is looking to be the best solution, as his is going to be an actual app on the iOS app store (if approved).

If you want the best experience now, don't buy the Moto360, get the LG G Watch R, price just dropped to match the 360.
[Wear OS General] swyner:
Problem is MohammadAG is so silent all the time. I appreciate the hard work and difficulties with developing and getting things on the App Store but man, he is dragging us along for almost 3 months. I am so glad others (@shiitakeo and [MENTION=4818520]Guie[/MENTION]yC) have stepped up and moved this forward. I really think MohammadAG is holding back for no other reason than to be a super star. C'mon, release the version you have.....get the iPhone app out to the public (Cydia and developer signing can use) as the development community is just that......people that work and test and provide feedback rather than doing it in isolation and being the star.
[Wear OS General] wez_db:
And then get people like you complaining that the app is crap, which he developed in his spare time and never promised a release date for. I understand his wanting to release something that works to his standards and Apple's.

Super stars don't get to be if they don't earn it so your argument does not even make sense.
[Wear OS General] swyner:
I have never complained about any of the apps developed. I provide issues in hopes that the developer addresses them but if not, oh well. I agree all this is done for "free" in their own time. Not once have I said anything negative except allowing some frustration to come out with Mohammad's false promises. He did say "app to be released this week" which was last week. He did that once before. I apologize but at least other's released something and work with the public to perfect.
[Wear OS General] henkim21:
One thing to consider when buying the lg gwatch r, I believe I've heard that it won't support wifi when the new android wear software updates pushed because it lacks a wifi antenna. Just something I've heard.
[Wear OS General] xtc.sanchez:
Thank you very much guys! Actually I thought about either getting the Moto 360 or the Zenwatch. Is there any difference when it comes to compatibility to this "iOS Hack"?

And what would be a "cheap lollipop phone"? Because, when I have to pay 200 EUR for the watch + 150 EUR for the phone I would rather get the Apple Watch for 450 EUR. :/
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Also, aside from its lack of wifi, the LG G Watch R is fugly compared to the Moto (and its name is ridiculously long).

Also, they're not the same price, the LG is $250, whereas the Moto is $180 now.
[Wear OS General] wez_db:
Haha I agree, although that remains taste. Compatibility wise the LG at the moment is the better choice. But I am still glad I bought the Moto.
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Yeah, you're right, it wouldn't be worth it.

If you can get android running on your Mac or PC via VMWare or Parallels (which is what I've done), you don't need to get the Android phone- I use my computer to sync the moto now. It's not ideal, but good enough for now-I'm counting on Google's official iOS app to come out next month, if not I'll return the watch.

If you can't get it running on your computer, yeah, probably not worth it to have to go out and buy another phone.

The Zenwatch does look pretty nice though, for a non-round watch. :good:
[Wear OS General] xtc.sanchez:
Thank you. Your idea with Android as a virtual machine sounds great, could you post some info on how to get there?

All in all: Would you recommend an android smartwatch used with a iPhone? I would like to see whether a smartwatch is something I'd like using/wearing.
[Wear OS General] wez_db:
If you want a stable dependable no hassle solution, wait for google or one of the developers to get it stable.

Otherwise buy a pebble, still love mine had it since day 1, or save up for the apple one.
[Wear OS General] mgladindev:
I can get one in the US for about 80. Moto G is pretty solid.

Its about functionality not how pretty it is. Yes the G Watch R is wordy and ugly as dog crap but it works.
[Wear OS General] xtc.sanchez:
Is there any info on how well the Zenwatch is supported by this "hack"? I am currtently installing" android-x86-4.0-RC2-thinkpad.iso" on VMware fusion (Macbook) and would love to try it out. Is there a how-to on how to get this work? I found some on youtube but it does not cover on how to get wifi to work on the android vm. oO

about waiting for google's official release? I thought that apple will block everything in its app store or am I wrong? Isnt that a barrier for Google?

Thanks again guys, I really appreciate your help!
[Wear OS General] wez_db:
Then Pebble would be banned as well so that isnt entirely true. Apple might attempt to get in Googles way but that will not last I hope.

/offtopic

Just read an article Apple does block custom watchfaces on their watch.... Disappointing choice
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Well considering that's its a piece of jewelry that you wear on your wrist, I think how pretty it is actually is just as important in this case. Different story if we're talking about phones.

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I'm using Parallels instead of VMWare, but I would imagine that if the wifi is working on your Macbook that it should automatically work in Android.

If you decide to switch to Parallels, here's a article- http://www.idownloadblog.com/2015/04/07/how-to-pair-android-wear-without-android-phone/

It could be a barrier, but I think it won't be, especially if you look at Pebble as an example. Plus Google has apps like their Maps iOS app competing with Apple's map app, so they don't seem to be totally against competition. They don't need to draw the attention of the government with potential anti-trust lawsuits.
[Wear OS General] xtc.sanchez:
Thank you very much briwil. I will try to figure it out using Fusion and switch to Parallels if I don't succeed. Another difficulty I am currently facing is a really bad lag running Android 5 as VM (allocated 4GB Ram and 4 Cores). Android 4 ran smooth in comparison. Could you tell me what ISO you are using?
[Wear OS General] wez_db:
I'm using 4.1 on Fusion as well, not all apps are stable but getting the wear app on the watch works fine. The moto app, facer or watchmaker all crash.
[Wear OS General] briwil:
I'm using 4.4 RC2:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/android-x86/files/Release 4.4/android-x86-4.4-RC2.iso/download

These apps crash for me too. Android Wear app works, and thats the important one.
[Wear OS General] xtc.sanchez:
Ive often read that Android 5 had to be used. Is that false?
[Wear OS General] wez_db:
Android 4.3 or higher for the mobile / tablet / vm and Android Wear 5.0+
[Wear OS General] xtc.sanchez:
Have you got wifi to work on VMware fusion and android?
[Wear OS General] wez_db:
Havent tried actually. No real need to
[Wear OS General] xtc.sanchez:
But don't you need Internet access from the android virtual machine in order to download the apk from the App Store? Sorry, but I am confused now. :)
[Wear OS General] rnicholls:
If your laptop has internet (wifi) (wired) it will auto transfer to Virtualbox VMware etc.
[Wear OS General] xtc.sanchez:
Actually that does not work for me. Android tells me to enable WiFi. :/
[Wear OS General] rnicholls:
What one are you using VMware ?
[Wear OS General] wez_db:
Shouldnt matter. Mine works fine on VMWare, had it on another iso as well, try a different one
[Wear OS General] GuiyeC:
v1.6 released

Hello!

I've just released v1.6:

- New way of connecting, more info cards, no more infinite "Searching..." loop.

- The pairing PIN is now displayed in a card too.

- Connection and reconnection improvements.

- Moto 360 improvements, a little more to come.

- BLE Utility support.

The app is ready to download on GitHub and will be ready in a while on the PlayStore.

I've been trying with a borrowed Moto 360, so far it connects every time, no turning off airplane mode needed in this version, hopefully...

Also I got it to reconnect automatically without relaunching LightBlue or any app, buuuut... it needs a different app, I haven't been able to find an app that accomplishes what's need on the background so I had to create one to test. I'll probably release this app on Cydia and later on the AppStore, this can take a while, being reviewed, approved, maybe rejected...

If you are a developer or someone who knows this kind of stuff, there may be a BLE app that advertises it's service on the background, if you know an app that can do that, comment this and I may be able to get this working with that app, I just need this to be able to find the iOS device, that's it.

Anyway everybody try the new version, let's hope it improves everybody experience and post your results!
[Wear OS General] briwil:
What happens when you try to turn on wifi from within Android (swiping down from the top right corner, to pull down the menu)?
[Wear OS General] xtc.sanchez:
I am using Android 4.4 RC2 and when I enable WiFi it just does not change anything. "IP Address" and "MAC Address" are unavailable. Can you tell me what you chose in the Network Tap of VMware Fusion or Virtual Box? The Bridged-Mode? I've tried "Bridge" and "NAT", does not change anything. Of course I rebooted Android after switching. Any idea? :confused:
[Wear OS General] wez_db:
Great that you were able to borrow a 360! I've just installed it but will go to bed soon. I'll post my findings tomorrow.
[Wear OS General] swyner:
Awesome! Will test it out. Have you tried BLE Utility from the App Store? I believe [MENTION=6499164]shiitakeo[/MENTION] used this in the end because of the better reconnection and it runs in the background. Let us know!
[Wear OS General] GuiyeC:
It does look like BLE Utility works in the background, if you look closely at the changeling you can see "BLE Utility support" ;) This version does work with BLE Utility.
[Wear OS General] iAppleDev:
what about the wearAday? It's on AppStore! I don't know about backgrounding
[Wear OS General] GuiyeC:
What about it?
[Wear OS General] mgladindev:
Anyone know how to connect to BLE?
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Which part are you confused about?
[Wear OS General] mgladindev:
Honestly not sure. I had no issues with Lightblue, but BLE wants to give me issues.

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I figured it out. Like a bonehead I forgot to forget the device on the Watch.
[Wear OS General] fukamizy:
It is a Chinese Application to connect iPhone and android wear.

It requires installation in android wear and iPhone.

I have tried it for my Moto360, but disconnected in 20 minutes...

And I have tried your 1.6 app.

It is a very good app!

Connection is stable and auto re-connection is working over 4hours.

But unfortunately default mail apps notification is not received...

I use default mail app for business, so I hope it is improved.

Thank you for your hard work!

Best Regards.
[Wear OS General] therddler:
using BLE utility I noticed on my Gear Live it connected faster than using Lightblue.
[Wear OS General] bubosvk:
Works better

The new version 1.6 works super with BLE Utility.

But autoreconnect not working.

Reconecting works when i click on watch on button searching.

I must clicking every 20 min.

All notification works fine.
[Wear OS General] xtc.sanchez:
Thank you for your effort! :) Are there notifications for:

-Mail

-Calendar

-Wunderlist

-iMessage

-Telegram

-WhatsApp

and how do they pop up? Is the content available so I do not have to pull my iPhone out?
[Wear OS General] bubosvk:
I have try this notification

- mail

- outlook

- imessage

- whatsapp

- facebook

- battery status

- reminders

- calling

Music control works super, but paused evry 3 second
[Wear OS General] bazaglia:
The same here with Moto 360 and version 1.6.
[Wear OS General] swyner:
I installed the new 1.6 and then deleted LightBlue and installed BLE Utility. I cannot get the watch to connect. I unpaired "blank" on the watch and "forget" device on phone but still cannot connect. What did you guys do in BLE Utility? There is no "blank" peripheral......
[Wear OS General] svdemon:
its simple just make sure you're on the peripheral tab and when you turn on the ios services you should see the code prompt and you're set
[Wear OS General] mgladindev:
Make sure you also forget the devices in bluetooth on the watch and the iPhone first.
[Wear OS General] swyner:
Ya, did all that. I will reset the watch and ensure I have 1.6 on there.

Edit, just uninstalled and reinstalled 1.6 and worked awesome....just for reference for others, might need to check that on each update.

[MENTION=4818520]Guie[/MENTION]yC, awesome work man. The connection setup now is so much more informative and quick. Thanks again for all your hard work!
[Wear OS General] josue85:
1.6 is working really well with my Moto 360. Connection is solid, and when it does lose connection, I've been able to just tap on the watch and reconnect. Nice work.
[Wear OS General] mgladindev:
Still needs work. Much better though.
[Wear OS General] Crem:
My man, you're definately on the right track with this version! Pairing process is solid, and connection seems fine for the most part. When it loses connection, tapping the card reconnects automatically. Nice job!
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Changed my comment, I agree with this.

Moto 360/iphone 6
[Wear OS General] therddler:
For better battery life, which for right now is like asking for cold water in hell, airplane mode on or off. I was getting about 12 hours use but today I barely got 2 from 100% charge.
[Wear OS General] judgetom:
Any update regarding [MENTION=673760]moha[/MENTION]mmedAG version?

[MENTION=6614388]GuiyeC[/MENTION]: great job - my 360 and the 1.6 are almost a dream combo. Only minor problems sometimes with the reconnect
[Wear OS General] queeko:
Not able to pair

whats up all.. I have a iPhone 6+ running iOS 8.3 so I can't jailbreak yet.. I also have moto360 running android lollipop 5.0.2.. I side loaded apk from google play store using an app from Google play store called apps2wear.. Worked great.. I installed ble utility and light blue from Apple App Store.. I got both to connect to each other but only thing I could do is play music and control volume and skip tracks.. Which is progress.. But I do not get any notifications of any kind.. A sa matter of fact on the moto360 it shows it is disconnected not paired but I still could control music functions.. Has anyone out there been able to get any functionality.. If so what is the set up process that I missed!! Any help would be great!
[Wear OS General] briwil:
What process exactly are you trying? Are you using an actual Android phone to sync or are you using a Virtual Machine? You can delete Light Blue off of your phone, just use BLE. Also, you shouldn't have to side load anything with the app you mentioned, just install the iOS Wear Connect app on your phone and it should sync to your watch when you sync the phone and watch from with the Android Wear app.

I think I usually open BLE and go to 'Peripheral', turn on the iOS connect app on the watch, then switch to the watch Settings, Bluetooth settings, then click on 'BLE'... Then while its "connecting" I just go back to the watchface and the card usually says "connected" after a few seconds.

The watch will always say "disconnected" in the main menu and show the little cloud icon with a line through it whenever it's not connected to Android, but that's different from the Bluetooth connection we're using here.

And of course you have to have things set up on your phone to send notifications- like whatever email program you use, it has to send a popup notification on your phone in order for it to get passed along to your watch.
[Wear OS General] queeko:
I use ble utility only

I tried both methods.. Both had same results.. But I didn't go to settings on watch to pair there.. I opened ble selected "peripherals" then iOS wear app on watch then it says it is connected but on watch it still shows symbol of not being connected. I'll give another shot..?

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I am using a nexus phone to send iOS apk to watch then I disconnect nexus from phone then tied pairing watch to iPhone..
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Well again, that symbol of not being connected (that I think you are talking about) has to do with not being connected to an Android phone, totally separate from what we're doing here.
[Wear OS General] wez_db:
Same here, works better than ever, getting connection times of 2-3+ hours mostly. Sometimes short but big improvement .
[Wear OS General] swyner:
[MENTION=4818520]Guie[/MENTION]yC, I think I have narrowed down my issue with some notifications coming in that do NOT cause the watch to buzz or "wake up and show the notification". This only happens on my Gmail account within the iPhone Mail app. I have work account and Gmail account and most of the time, the Gmail account notifications do this. I find this extremely weird since both accounts use the same app. Both accounts have the same notification settings on the iPhone....Skype, text and work email all notify on watch 100% of the time. Is there something that you can think of causing this? Thanks again bud! Awesome work
[Wear OS General] xtc.sanchez:
Can someone tell me how to get things done with Android running in the virtual machine, a Moto360 and my iPhone? I am still having the problem with "no WiFi" on my android virtual machine no matter if trying with VirtualBox or VMware. :( My Macbook Pro Retina is connected via WiFi. When using windows or cloudera in vmware there are no issues regarding the internet connection. :(

Edit: The connection seems to share, it's just the WiFi which is not "active". I didn't think about simply trying to test the connection. Nevermind. :D
[Wear OS General] mgladindev:
Ok! So after some heavy use, these are my findings and suggestions on where to improve. Ultimately we are going to need an app on the iOS App Store to make this work even close to satisfactory. With that said, this is still amazing work.

First off, connection time has improved, but still not to the point of using it daily for practical use. Also, trying to block any notifications immediately disconnects the watch.

Second, notifications cause the watch to vibrate, but does not populate the card, you still have to scroll down to find them, and it seems that they aren't "priority" because the notifications are always 2-3 cards down every time. Not really useful to connect your watch to your iPhone if it isn't truly a glancing event.

Finally, reconnection is still an issue. Granted it's easier with BLE, but that's a band-aid. We need constant connection.

I know some or all of this is in the works, but without a dedicated iOS app, this is not going to ever truly work.

Keep up the good work guys and hopefully this changes.
[Wear OS General] briwil:
How long is it taking you to connect? On my moto360, its maybe 7seconds at the most.

I don't understand this, how are your notifications 2-3 cards down? What are on the other 2-3 cards that you're scrolling past to get to them? Isn't this layout just how Android Wear works?
[Wear OS General] mgladindev:
Actual reconnecting is short. It's the frequency that I have to do it.

I'll have the default watch cards (travel, weather, health) -apps with icons are the only thing that will be up top, but I still have to pull it up to see it. When I connect my Nexus 6, the notifications pop up and show me quick info (like message from Joe Smith, message from Hangouts). Like I get the notification and just have to look at my watch to see what it is. I can't really pull it up every time.
[Wear OS General] magicowl:
hm not use virtual box, use parallels his very good and don't have problem(no share documents)
[Wear OS General] xtc.sanchez:
The Moto360 should arrive today and I am gathering information on how to make 1.6 run. I have a few questions after reading this:

I've installed the "Wear Connect" App on the Android Virtual Machine. But how do I get the smartwach part (wear.apk in github) onto the watch? The other thing is, when turning bluetooth in the android settings on, it simple switches back to "off" again. I've enabled VMware BT sharing, did I forgot anything?
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Don't worry about the wear.apk- just install the other one (can't think of its name- iOS connect.apk?) Once that's installed on your VM, it'll copy over to your watch what it needs when you sync to the watch in the Android Wear app. Just look for "sync apps" in the Android Wear app in the phones settings, you'll need to have the phone connected to be able to get to it.

I've had my parallels Bluetooth do that before, switch off, try restarting the VM. It's weird like that. Try clicking it on your once and wait, sometimes it's delayed. Or just restart your computer. I remember dealing with this, it seems buggy, just keep messing with it, eventually it'll stay on. Make sure Bluetooth is on on your actual computer of course.
[Wear OS General] fatundem:
Guiye's version is working perfectly for me here.

iOS 8.1.3 using shiitakeo's cydia app

Android Wear 5.0.2 on the LG G Watch R.

The progress in this effort is phenomenal so far. I'm sure google will have an app out soon too!

I wonder if Guiye's version reads GPS directions from google maps. Hmmmmmmm
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Interesting, I never though about using shiitakeo's app instead of BLE, wonder if there's any benefit to that. I'll have to try later today when I get home.
[Wear OS General] Nav93:
Lg urbane

does THAT all work with The lg urbane ? All people are saying it s the same like the g watch r . So it Should right ?
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Should work with any Android Wear watch
[Wear OS General] Nav93:
yea but Many people have Problems with the 360 and on the g watch r it works good so i thought my it Is the same case:/
[Wear OS General] gidi:
My main problem with the Moto 360 (appart from the disconnects) is that when a notification comes the watch screen does not turn on. The only thing that happens is a short dual vibration.

(I have ambient mode OFF.)

Can someone please tell me if you have the same issue?
[Wear OS General] fukamizy:
[MENTION=310234]gidi[/MENTION] I have same problem, too. I tried to connect my moto360 to iphone5s, it was success.

But when a notification comes the watch screen does not turn on. And my moto360 lost connection in 2-3 hours (ambient is on). When my moto360 lost connection, my phone5s showed that moto360 is connected. But moto360 showed blank is disconnected and I can't receive notifications. I did not understand why iphone5s shows "connected" and moto360 shows "disconnected".
[Wear OS General] steve_bk:
Hello,

I was able to install on my moto 360, during the paring process i never get a code on the watch to pair to the iPhone. On the iPhone the box pops up to enter a code but i never get a code on the watch and the watch eventually tells me to turn on airplane mode and turn it off and re-run the app.\

No successful pair.

Moto 360 and Iphone 6 - All software at the latest versions.

Uninstall

adb -s localhost:4444 uninstall com.shiitakeo.android_wear_for_ios

Thanks