yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kevinmr82:
Would Moto/Verizon be willing to pay for said root method just to be able to patch it? Could that possibly be the hold up? I'm starting to wonder myself...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] smooth781:
For this too be true, You would need to think that more then let's say on the high side 5% of all users would even know what root is. Then of this number people would cancel their wifi tether plan and how people of this number do you really think are paying anyways. So if the numbers end up being so small what do they even care? They may spend 100 times more then it would cost them.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cstone1991:
jcase said something along the lines of that he would sell exploits to the manufacturers if they would pay for them in a post quite some time ago in the unlock our bootloaders thread so I am fairly confident that they do not pay for them.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
android file host? dr devs?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] computerfreek274:
Thanks That is what I was trying to say by temp!.

This is why I just made the WIFI hotspot img and I am playing with my own copy now and removing and adding stuff I like into my IMG,

Thanks
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bobhinkle:
Has the people who downloaded this program tested to see what's different for each user. It says it only works on one device. Interested to see if our phone information is needed to bypass the check on the system.img
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] nrage23:
I hope this leads to something really cool. I see many many post from people who have no idea what Mofo does or what can be doing after using it. I just replied to a thread someone made wanting to know if a system image from another phone can be flashed to get xposed on the Turbo. Alot of phones are going to get nuked by people not understanding what this does.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
I wish i was smart enough to write images and make changes. this root methods is pretty nice. a little more cumbersome but i am sure little bylittle, more and more will get adapted to images by people like you who know what they are doing.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
it was moved at my request, ill look into it now
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
also since we need 22. whatever to flash the image. does any image that is flashed have to be that build? can someone make a lollipop image and flash that?

Found in another thread. regarding this. since we are just flashing system images 5.0 and 5.1 are different kernels so we not modify those yet
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Coronado is dead:
Thanks! Looks like it was unlocked and the notification that it was locked cleaned out.

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Has anyone checked the boot loader to see if it changed to qe 1/1?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] computerfreek274:
xt1254.system.21.44.12.quark_Root_wifihotspot.ver_1.img “ NOTE : Still Uploading to android host files I will update here when done.”

I setup a new one for my IMG's Please goto http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/development/xt1254-21-44-12-quarkrootwifihotspot-t3064908

Thanks And please be nice don't Start with this and that. I will add stuff to this IMG and see where we can take this. So if you looking to add or remove anything I will take request but please do not blow up the Forum with crap or I will just walk away like I did years ago from XDA after i was working on roms for the eris.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
Well there ya go. I don't understand how this is working. If you could explain to me what this exploit does at a high level, that would be great. Thanks!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jwort93:
Do we actually have the ability to flash images in fastboot, or is that something that the exploit would have to be used for?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] computerfreek274:
All set my new IMG is up on android file host. http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/development/xt1254-21-44-12-quarkrootwifihotspot-t3064908/post59697444#post59697444
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] CtrlAltConstruct:
LOL. I can only imagine what some of those threads are like, "No, you cannot flash a G1 ROM to your Droid Turbo."

Sent from my XT1254 (Not rooted yet)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GhostRider5666:
It's funny how people think you can flash any rom you want to the Turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] r3pwn:
I don't know, but even if you can't, you could dd the image to your recovery partition while the OS is running (as long as you're rooted)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] MonkeyMouth:
What is the one command you run to remount? I understand this is a temp rw. But I would like to update su binary. And be done
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
What is "dd the image"?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gqskrub:
I don't know what it is either but here is a thread about the dd command for noobs.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jwort93:
I'm not quite sure of the commands to do so. If you would be willing to tell me the commands, I would be more than willing to be a guinea pig!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] r3pwn:
su

dd if="/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/boot" of="/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/recovery"

Then reboot to recovery. It should boot the system with writeprotect off.

Edit: Don't run these, they don't work.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] beaups:
Nope.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] r3pwn:
Nope? Did Moto patch that since jcase recommended it in the OG Moto X forums?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jwort93:
Seems like it. It just goes right back into fast boot when I try to boot into recovery after doing this. Damn, oh well, thanks though!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] 123421342:
I can't be the only one who noticed that "mofo unlock" -> "not yet"
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
I noticed it too
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jparasita:
I do know this someone with enough skill could probably make a custom rom into a img to flash on the phone debloat modify etc.....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
Does anybody remember that app in the playstore a few years ago that allowed you to make a nandroid backup. I remember the backup looked a lot like safestrap but as I recall the rom slot boxes were red. Like safestrap you would choose what you wanted to do during boot. I remember it worked on several devices "it wasn't made for one particular device" But for the life of me I cant remember the name of it. I do remember the page said "this app is no longer supported. If I can figure it out I'l try to get an APK and try to make a backup. And NO I am not crazy this thing DID exist because I used it on my Razr Maxx before safestrap! LOL
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mikera67:
Would a root app like viper4android in apk form function without "baking" it in an image? I've paid but haven't flashed yet
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] nrage23:
I believe Viper4Android writes its drivers to the system partition, therefore it would have to "baked" in to the system image.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mikera67:
Well darn.....

Have to wait until an image with xposed, an ad blocker, tether and viper then.

I'll go out on a limb and guess that very shortly several methods will be found, perfected and released making mortals like me "bake" in the stuff we want easy, now is like the wild west, no rules, I'll sit back and watch awhile but I'll enjoy the show....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JakeDHS07:
See top status bar. That working Xposed GravityBox though. Using my method and soft reboot option it works. No instability and no crashes. Temp workaround until someone bakes into IMG.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JGoldz75:
http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/orig-development/kill-write-protection-motowpnomo-t2551113

Let's get to work
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
did you try does it work? i am flashing the wifi teher img atm i cannot try this
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Harry44:
That's not going to work. I am pretty sure beaups already said it wouldn't work. [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] correct me if I am wrong.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] evastonian:
The OP of the linked thread said earlier in this thread that it's patched and doesn't work anymore.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
is there a place to download an original img file for the droid turbo to flash back to beginning? or is that not an option now?

Also is tere a reason i cannot select accept or deny when supersu asks for it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kevinmr82:
To revert completely back to stock

The rootjunkysdl website. I don't have enough posts to post a link on here.

It's in the firmware section for the Droid Turbo

Download it, unzip it, run the .bat file while in recovery mode. Wait for the magic.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
http://rootjunkysdl.com/?device=Droid Turbo&folder=Firmware
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
the more important question is why doesnt supersu allow me to click accept? is that only in the pay version? if so i will buy i just did not need ot pay to use the basics of supersu for my xt912 so curious if things changed or why i cannot click the accept button. without being able to click accept i canot pass root checker

reinstalled the rooted image and supersu worked again for me.

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i know you wrote this yesterday and because of instability issues you probably wil not answer. but iseem to be doing everything right and it gives me a usage message.

i do this

mount -o rw,remount system

which according to the usage from a website it appears correct. is there a punctuation i am missing or is implied that i do not see here or understand from the document

mount [-o OPT,OPT] device directory
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] r3pwn:
FTFY
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] SBC44:
If you have a screen filter (like lux), disable or sleep it. Took me forever to figure that out, and oddly I don't remember that being a problem on prior phones.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
that is probably what did it. i read that on another post and do not remember if i went thru and dleleted un used apps, lux included, vefore or after i checked for root access.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] HOFFABALBOA:
worth the 20.00

Finally rooted. worth the 20 bucks.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
Without a doubt

sent from my FLASHABLE!! droid turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] HOFFABALBOA:
Xposed

Anyone else having a problem getting Xposed to work?:confused: can't get the frame work to update.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] windraver:
What do you see when you run this command in the busybox terminal emulator?

The steps I took are:

1. Get the root access from MofoRoot

2. Install Busybox install for non root

3. Install Terminal Emulator

4. Get Busy Box Files

5. Open Terminal

6. Type SU

7. Paste and run the copied text from Busybox

8. enter "mount -o rw,remount /system" while still in "root@quark:/ #"

Then nothing happens. Does that mean I have RW?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jwort93:
This root process does not remove system write protection, so some root apps such as Xposed which write to the system partition will need to be manually added into the system.img before flashing. I don't know whether or no someone has gotten Xposed to work yet.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
R3pwn helped I was missing / in front of system. I really hope people smarter than me do something awesome with this

Mine said it is read only
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] HOFFABALBOA:
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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Joshmary:
since its still write protected then what can you even install
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Harry44:
This is not R/W.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] windraver:
Yea... I just checked the ro.boot.write_protect and it was still 1.

Oddly, while the device hasn't been rebooted, through root explorer, when I changed the entitlement file names or the build.prop within system, it persists until I reboot my device. Does that mean my "changes" are only in memory and not actually being written?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cstone1991:
From that thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=55135823
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] 123421342:
Its not hard to understand guys. Any system changes you need to make need to be made offline. I edited the hosts and build.prop and flash that, no problems. You are not going to be able to bypass WP without BL unlock or finding a way to exploit the aboot.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BDA_Rival:
question about the mofo method. Lets say lollipop comes out next week but im on a prerooted image, could i flash a stock image and take the lollipop update or will i be locked out because of the whole "modified" marker? i tried to search but couldnt find a real answer. Also, lets say we are locked out after that, we wont be able to even flash a lollipop image because we cant flash kernals with this method, correct? we need to have a lollipop kernel to be able to flash a lollipop image, right? Id hate to do this if lollipop would be out of the question in the future.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
AIUI, when you flash the stock image, you are fine to take an OTA. Your phone however, will show that you had rooted in the past.

If you have never rooted, the flags are set to 0/0. If you have root, the flags are set to 1/1. If you are currently unrooted but have rooted in the past, the flags are set to 0/1.

If you are 0/0 or 0/1, you can take the OTA w/o bricking.

If you are 1/1, you may or may not be able to take the OTA w/o bricking.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kwyrt:
In my experience with past moto devices, rooting has never caused an issue with being able to take an OTA update. Yes, if you modify anything on the system partition, you probably won't be able to take an OTA update until you revert back to stock, but then you should be able to update. That being said, this is a new phone with an unusual way of gaining root I don't think anyone really knows for sure what will happen with the Lollipop OTA drops.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
I think if you flash back to the stock image, there will be no problem with taking the OTA.

It is only if you try to remain rooted when you take the OTA that we can't say what will happen.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] windraver:
So from what you're saying in theory:

1. We can get an OTA such as lollipop 5.1 that will come one day

If the OTA includes a bootloader upgrade/changes

2. We could modify the OTA bootloader upgrade to be unlocked.

3. We could additionally modify the OTA bootloader upgrade to leave protection as off as WP must be off in order to upgrade bootloader or write to kernel right?

I think the challenge here is that we can't sign the OTA right?

Otherwise we'd have Lollipop bootloader unlocked with write protection off.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] burmjohn:
In short. No
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Its going to be one here
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
What? Where are you getting #2 and #3 from?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] burmjohn:
Bomb just dropped
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
so, in essence, we will be stuck w/no further otas, but a modifiable sys.img?

(presuming there isnt another iteration)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
do they at the core know if i root my device. i have insurance on my phone and if i root it break it and blow it up. if i call and say it was stolen will they know if i rooted it? in this age of snooping and stuff i cannot say they donot send a data bit letting them know
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] windraver:
I'm just thinking theoretically. Bootloaders, kernels, android, its all software sitting on a hardware platform.

If an OTA is capable of updating the bootloader or changing the kernel or updating the Android, at the end of the day, something must have been unlocked.

I'm a believer that anything can be hacked and no digital security is truly secure thus if we could reverse engineer and disassemble an OTA, change the way it "performed" its update by injecting or removing code that would handle WP or Bootloader unlock, we essentially can do anything.

On top of all this, we still need to resign the OTA to trick the bootloader into thinking it was from Verizon/Moto in order. Its like the trojan horse.

Of course this requires far more skill than I am anywhere close to but that is the gist of it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BDA_Rival:
Any way you could explain? I'd hate to have the device stuck on Kit Kat forever. Should we hold off on this?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Typical root survival wont work with WP.

If verizon/moto uses the new update procedure, the whole block device gets patched not individual files, this breaks root servival

an update is surely to patch this.

If you want root, dont hold off.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BDA_Rival:
I guess I'm not too worried about root survival, I'm more worried about not being able to get Lollipop on this device after root. It sounds like all we can really do right now is flash system images and no kernel images. We would need to be able to flash a kernel Lollipop image for a Lollipop system image, right? And it sounds like mofo root would actually cripple Lollipop capabilities. Sorry if I sound dumb, just trying to make sure I have all the info I need.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
Obviously and without much of an understanding of what you are proposing.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] windraver:
I'm open to disagreement so what do you think?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Jhall8:
Be careful. Asurion has replied to posts like this with warnings about insurance fraud.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
What do you mean "at the core"?

If you call Verizon tech support and they can connect to your device through MyVerizon app, they can tell you are rooted. Do they note that in your account? I doubt it but they could. But someone would have to look through the notes on your account to see that.

I have called Verizon when I had rooted my phone, had root cloaker on but didn't disable MyVerizon. The tech guy said, "root, nice, don't see that too often", lol!. Did he notate my account? Idk but I don't have asurion and I bought my phone full retail so I don't care.

So if you don't want Verizon to know you have rooted your phone, disable MyVerizon. AFAIK, if that app is disabled, they can't "see" inside your phone.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] burmjohn:
They can suck it. If I had to put it into four words.

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So you are saying verizon can remote into your device? Not happening.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
Yes they can - disable MyVerizon if you don't want them to be able to do that.

I thought Xposed Root Cloaker would do it for me and I was quite surprised when the tech support guy told me I was rooted. So no, Root Cloaker can't hide root from MyVerizon app.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Absolut_Malarkey:
Shot in the dark

Would it be possible to make an update.zip using the image and them flash it? wouldnt that make it easier to acess the write protected part? Idk here shot in the dark
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] trikotret:
There's no need for a Verizon tech to access your phone. I'm sure we know more than their techs to trouble shoot our phones.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
By Verizon tech you mean script reader and googler
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
I was calling about a network issue - I have no ability to trouble shoot tower issues. While on the phone, the tech guy wanted to make sure there were no issues with my phone that he could see on his end and he did it w/o warning me he was doing it. The only way I knew he was doing it is b/c he said "root, nice, you don't see that too often." Took me by surprise b/c I though root cloaker would conceal root from MyVerizon app but no it does not.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
i had started on a ditrode of "privacy" and how easy it would be to profile users for monetization, and what companies at play might really think it advantageous to be able to dial in (without an obvious app) to what you do, say, or view,.but anyone with logic *should* realize nothing is ever truly free and privacy went out in '01.

the reality is, if it benefitted the bottom line (i.e.-insurance claims *enough*, you bet your butt they would be checking actively.)fortunately, x is more than y is worth. i still woudnt say such things, as the long arm of a corporation goes far. as far as a counter on root versus a claim, i think it cost-ineffective to bother to check before a refurb job. maybe im wrong.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
yeah, but I needed an NRB ticket filed and the only way to get one filed is to go through tech support.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] elir41:
When I had an M8 and root, opening the My Verizon app would ask for root privileges. 1st time I had ever seen that before, so yes, Verizon will know by that app.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Draven10785:
Rooting is still legal and cannot void a warranty unless overturned this year when they reevaluate the DMCA. Look it up if you don't believe me. Just Google DMCA rooting.

On phones anyways. Tablets it is deemed illegal for whatever reason.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
True.

False.

While rooting is legal, all this means is that it is not a crime to do it. You can however enter into a contract that would void your warranty should you do it.

Now having said that, each state has its own laws governing warranties and for many states, the law is that if the rooting isn't related to the issue for which you are claiming warranty service - e.g., charging port failure - then in many states, the manufacturer must cover the issue regardless of whether or not you rooted.

And having said that, a financing agreement like Edge can in fact prohibit you from rooting a financed phone until you pay it off.

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I had denied the MyVerizon app root privileges and the tech still could tell I was rooted.

If you want to keep Verizon's prying eyes out of your phone, disable the MyVerizon app.

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And this is why the FCC made the right decision to regulate the cell phone carriers as the utilities they are.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
(^^^ google is the one with the ultimate goal to monetize the user, not the cell companies. ;)

they are, partially, about to be one, though, so fair enough. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
Which is why I have a fake name on my gmail account on my phone and my real email is not a gmail account.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
ditto

even on xda. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
Especially on XDA, the mods here are OOC and on a power trip, lol!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] smokie11:
Oh yes, for so long sometimes I feel I was born married.:laugh: