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[Moto X General] Liam0o:
The problem isn't the flashing, it's when users try to get back to the original stock 4.4.4 for their model, 5.0.2 brazilian OTA updates the bootloader and gpt which is the partition table, neither of which can be downgraded once flashed, which is obviously where the issues start, when users decide to flash back to 4.4.4 they are forced to skip gpt/motoboot which leaves mismatched parts, brazilian bootloader/gpt with 4.4.4 system files assuming it even boots

They then try to accept an OTA and PLOP, motox is a paperweight because of mismatched parts, flashing the brazilian OTA isn't advised but it's not as scary as some are making out, it's users trying to flash back to their original 4.4.4 that are walking the tight rope
[Moto X General] santosacm:
Come on, let´s be real. :rolleyes:

The OTA image, which was only sent to a small group of people, was available here on day 1. How long do you thing it would take for the final version image, which will be sent to millions, to be available here? 10 min? Less?
[Moto X General] mh0520:
Question about lollipop, is there a way to disable moto voice and use android's native hotword detection? I'm just curious since this was not an option in KK.
[Moto X General] bhmcarr:
Ambient Display?

I know moto's got their own active display.. but is it possible to use Lollipop's ambient display instead on this build? IMHO it looks better.. but I'm not sure if it's a feature exclusive to the Nexus 6. Can anyone on the 5.0.2 build tell us if it's available? :)

EDIT: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/102640

shows that the feature is on the 2014 X, I would assume the 2013 has it as well..
[Moto X General] alresave:
Yes, you can disable moto voice and use Google's hotword detection, you can enable that on Google app, but it would work as on any other phone, with the screen ON and it would eat up your battery.

There's a Xposed module to do that, but it drains your battery. The CM12 implementation works better.
[Moto X General] Travisdroidx2:
Let's get real here. How many people are going to end up with a bricked phone because they could not wait a week or two to do things right? Warnings have been posted all over. I don't want to see all these please help post after the next OTA.
[Moto X General] lolcopter:
Uh.... Settings > Touchless Control

http://i.imgur.com/xsGt5vi.jpg
[Moto X General] MadPriest:
I afraid you will have to leave the forum once the OTA is out :)
[Moto X General] nbell13:
Don't recommend flashing if using a "T-Mobile" XT1053. The leak seems to have radios for the regional carriers. I couldn't get 2G data at all (i live in the country) and status bar said 4G instead of LTE, and I didn't feel like flashing the 4.4.4 radio individually. On a positive note, this drove me to finally unlock my bootloader and flash CM12 (which is AWESOME)

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Pretty sure the option to use ambient display is in the display settings. (not moto app settings, normal lollipop display settings)

Tapping it on warns you that moto display will be turned off. Give that a shot.
[Moto X General] bhmcarr:
Ah okay, neat! I'm personally waiting for the OTA for XT1060.. so I'll try it out once it officially drops.
[Moto X General] mh0520:
This only disables touchless control. Hotword detection in KK is disabled. If I remember correctly the moto x is blacklisted by the Google app so the option to enable hotword detection is greyed out. I wanted to know if it could be enabled in lollipop.
[Moto X General] anotherfiz:
So the '4'g you are seeing is LTE. If it were H or H+, your icon would say H. If you are having trouble getting edge to work, try switching to the DUN apn and then doing carrier selection in settings. You did flash the xt1053 radios, right?
[Moto X General] nbell13:
I figured it was LTE, since speedtest matched. I flashed the radios that were in the update zip file, and had trouble finding the 4.4.4 radio file individually (my internet at home is fairly slow). Updated my post for a little clarity. :P Then I said screw it, unlocked my bootloader, and flashed CM12. Seems way more stable anyway.
[Moto X General] sorullo_xgrx:
I'm on T-Mobile too using the leak soak or how some people call it beta release
[Moto X General] nbell13:
I got 22 down and similar upload speed.
[Moto X General] DarkWolffe:
You can disable Motorola's Touchless Control, but the Google Search app will not allow you to use it's hotword detection. It's completely disabled on the device because Touchless Control is baked into the OS and utilizes the third or fourth low-power CPU cores for hotword detection and natural language processing.

[IMG="Google Search "'Ok Google' detection' settings"]http://i.imgur.com/H4jcPum.png[/IMG]

That being said, please keep the thread about the Lollipop OTA.
[Moto X General] anotherfiz:
The only bug I am seeing is with Cellular acting wonky when connected to wifi. After a while it just starts turning off and on. As soon as you disconnect wifi it acts fine, any ideas?
[Moto X General] Bigluc:
For those on the soak, how are you guys doing for battery life?

I'm getting 3 hours screen on time, but interestingly 58% of my battery is taken up by cell standby.
[Moto X General] zed011:
Same here high cell standby usage otherwise battery life seems good. Over 8 hours idle my battery dropped from 100% to 90%, on kitkat I would have dropped to 84%. I got about a minimum 1 hour screen on time improvement (from 2h30 to nearly 4h) from KitKat probably largely due to the fact minimum brightness is lower than Kitkat
[Moto X General] adity:
Turn off data while using wifi.

This will solve your cell standby problem.

This is supposed to be a feature of lollipop
[Moto X General] Bigluc:
My data is always off unless I'm actively using it (usually 30 minutes total in a day).
[Moto X General] adity:
You toggle it off while using wifi?

Cuz that solved the issue for me
[Moto X General] JimJ2Mz:
Back to CM12

Has anyone flashed CM12 over the soak test?

If you did, what were the results?

If you haven't, maybe try it?

Thanks.
[Moto X General] D4W!D:
Restored backup from twrp over soak, then updated to the newest nightly.

No problems at all.
[Moto X General] zed011:
Data on or off doesn't matter to me. It seems like as long as wifi is enabled and radio enabled, cell standby will appear.
[Moto X General] adity:
Just let the battery drain once and charge fully.

Make sure you keep data off when you don't use it or on wifi.

Then report whether it solves the problem for you.

I had this problem and this is what I did.

Please try once
[Moto X General] Bigluc:
I'll try this tomorrow and report back.

As a note, battery life is pretty much normal, in fact maybe a bit better, its just odd the battery stats are showing cell standby taking up so much battery.
[Moto X General] adity:
Yeah it was eating me up too.

Was showing cell standby at 107 percent
[Moto X General] domenci:
I hope you're only suggesting this as a temporary solution. This seems like a pretty big problem and having to manually turning on and off data multiple times every day would not be cool. I hope the people officially receiving the soak have been reporting it.
[Moto X General] adity:
All roms I tried have this problem.

Thing is lollipop has improved handover if you recall.

It apparently keeps data on all time for that.
[Moto X General] domenci:
I did not recall. I don't think "improved" is a great word to use if it's killing the battery as a side effect...
[Moto X General] zed011:
I will give it another shot.

By the way, does anyone have this wake lock called com.google. android.syncadapters.contacts? I tried disabling contact sync for my google account in settings but it's still showing that wake lock.
[Moto X General] perfoliate:
The thing is that its not actually killing the battery from what I've seen, but it is incorrectly reporting as the biggest battery hog in the stats. This shows up on cm builds too.
[Moto X General] adity:
Might be.

But I definitely saw an improvement when I turned off data.

It might be placebo though.
[Moto X General] perfoliate:
I'm sure their is "some" improvement, after all you are shutting off cell data. I'm not disputing that. However I am doubting that the accuracy of cell standby as its reported in battery stats could possibly be draining battery more than screen on time. If that was accurate we should see at least half of available screen on time before the battery dies. Make sense?
[Moto X General] daede86:
no news about others version soak? i've received the soak invite in january but nothing this time :(
[Moto X General] SREEPRAJAY:
Members,

Just thought of stepping in to infuse some positive plus basic stuff.

Please dont push negativity into others. If you arent happy with something...you have your choice.

Please allow this FORUM to remain, a place for helping others and be helped.

THANKS

as a side note ( @ adm1jtg hope you are doing great my friend . Have a great time and life)
[Moto X General] mr4r4n:
Anyone having issues with viper4android?
[Moto X General] eeshlikhith:
Moto is sure taking its time preparing 5.0.2 for our device :) Almost feels like they pushed out the soak because we were getting too impatient ;) Can't wait to see how polished the final build will be :) How is 5.0.2 so far to those who are still using it?
[Moto X General] bhmcarr:
Somewhat bad news..

According to Rick Osterloh from Moto:

"Moto X 2013 (1st gen) in early test drives in different countries, but its really early in the process."

Source: https://twitter.com/rosterloh/status/580857942951505921

Looks like there are still problems with the soak. Buckle in y'all.. it's probably gonna be a while.
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
So if that is the case, then its not a SOAK... soaks are the final version, or release candidate.

If these are intermediate tests, then those who flashed the leaks will be off the upgrade path, because Moto doesn't have their IMEI being part of the test, and future OTA's (intermediate test, soak, or otherwise) will do a pre-flash validation check looking for a "STOCK" rom version.
[Moto X General] superm1:
Yep, you hit it spot on. It's not a soak that has leaked (as confirmed publicly by Motorola now). It's got a long way to go before it's up to the status of being a soak.
[Moto X General] zed011:
Fine by me. I will wait for the final lollipop and flash to that then for the meantime I'm ok being "stuck" on the test drive lollipop.
[Moto X General] winjer:
What are our options?

I wonder if someone could confirm some of my assumptions about ROM choices for the Moto X.

1. Because of motoboot and gpt, we can't downgrade once we upgrade. So moving from stock L (5.0.2) back to stock K (4.4.4) is off the table.

2. However, we are free to move from any stock ROM to any Cyanogen "ghost" ROM (or variants), and back again.

3. But--the release of stock L isn't going to help Cyanogen "ghost" add Moto-specific features, since that work isn't released as open source. There is zero chance of Cyanogen adding Moto features or equivalents because those features depend on proprietary and closed-source X8 drivers.

4. Given this, the decision to upgrade to stock L is rather high-stakes. Once you do it, you have no other options if you want to retain Moto features.
[Moto X General] Fadelight:
Not entirely true. CM12 already has the twist to launch camera feature.

They also have their own version of dynamic notifications, which work pretty well.

About 2-3 weeks ago, an option appeared in one of the menus for using hotword detection to unlock your phone and launch Google Now, but that option was buggy and disappeared. Its appearance, though, tells me that we will see it again at some point.

As of right now, the google now feature is the only thing missing.
[Moto X General] winjer:
Thanks. Hotword detection is pretty much the main feature I had in mind.

For the other features, are the CM12 versions equally as battery-efficient? Do they make use of our unique hardware?
[Moto X General] Fadelight:
The only unique hardware is for the hotword detection, so no. But neither does the stock ROM.

It seems most people have slightly worse battery life with CM12 over stock 4.4.4, but my experience has been much different. On a stock ROM, the best I had ever done was between 15 and 17 hours of battery, but with CM12, my best has been 27 hours. That said, my average is closer to 18. the 27 hours was with ambient display (dynamic notifications) disabled.
[Moto X General] winjer:
Are you saying neither CM12 nor the stock ROM make use of the "natural language processor" or "contextual computing processor"? That can't be right, can it?
[Moto X General] whgp:
waiting waiting waiting...and latter we get 5.0 :mad:

I don't know why not 5.1 :rolleyes:
[Moto X General] Fadelight:
Meh. I'm not a developer. I just see that cm12 and stock share features that most people say are unique yo the stock ROM.
[Moto X General] crpeck:
For those of you that got the invite, how do the notify you that you're in the soak test? Is it via email, or, does it just pop up as an update on the phone?
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
If you signed up for the MFN, and they invite you to a trial, test, soak, etc.. they notify you via the email address you entered on their site. The emails have contained information stating that it is to be kept confidential, not shared, etc. You must agree to that, and answer some survey questions. They usually then email you with info on when the push of the trial/test/soak/etc files will be starting, along with a link to a private area on the Moto Owners Forum to discuss and provide feedback/bugs/etc.
[Moto X General] crpeck:
Thanks for the scoop, guess I'm not worthy :)
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
If, as I hypothesized in Post #507 that this was not a soak, but rather an earlier test, then the target audience would have been very very limited...
[Moto X General] telemike:
Sounds like Beta testing
[Moto X General] cammel:
Seems like there is a new update to the soak test for some Brazilian folks... I read it on Google + here

https://plus.google.com/+FelipeSenaGplus/posts/QGuxCzoWWEV
[Moto X General] kayserxx:
can you upload the new ota please?
[Moto X General] joel_sinbad:
Just curious, but anyone made a custom ROM based on stock 5.0.2? You know... for the folks who still can't update to Lollipop.
[Moto X General] cesarsuarez:
link 221.41.38

https://mega.co.nz/#!fYER3QYT!OBiOxlOTE9JIZTTzj-j0nIr_ZP5eQTxkpwnzg91bIcM
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
If that is 502, you should know that Moto did send take down notices to XDA... so this link will disappear
[Moto X General] Ctrl-Freak:
This file patches the brazil lollipop soak to the 'latest' soak...
[Moto X General] kayserxx:
I have a soak test 21.41.31, delete the root, install the stock recovery, factory reset, when installing the new ota 21.41.38 I get error. any solution please?
[Moto X General] Ctrl-Freak:
I, as usual, ripped out the bootloader and modem changes and flashed this, but it caused me to soft brick. I wiped cache and data, but that didn't help. Restored back to soak and am reviewing my procedure...

edit: I didn't find the problem. The check_patch and patches went fine. The only changes I made to /system was supersu, and I moved 'play music' and maps to /data, but I didn't find any reference to these in this latest patch. I would like to hear from other testers.

edit2:

Strange:

brazil 444->fixed 1'st soak ota->root->fixed 2'nd soak ota+wipe = soft brick

brazil 444->fixed 1'st soak ota->fixed 2'nd soak ota->root+wipe = worked
[Moto X General] wolfen69:
Yeah, and I want no part of it. I like my phone to work well, and it is on KK. Even after L is available to everyone I'm going to wait until I see it's running well. I'm OK staying on KK if it means having a stable device. As far as roms, I think I'll pass on this phone. I got the X because I like the stock features and don't want to lose that.
[Moto X General] whgp:
motorola policy about updates: close your mouth and waiting
[Moto X General] marcgtsr:
How do I flash this? I installed the soak already.
[Moto X General] zed011:
Enter fastboot mode then recovery mode and select update from sdcard.
[Moto X General] guruzen:
Is this 5.1 update? or is it still in 5.0.2?
[Moto X General] helldagp:
Still in 5.0.2
[Moto X General] zed011:
Yep just a newer 5.0.2 build
[Moto X General] Razgriz:
I wonder if there's a newer one for the XT1053, too.
[Moto X General] raddacle:
Are the bugs from the previous release resolved? Are there any new bugs? Just trying to guess if this will be the final build, and if OTA's will be starting soon.
[Moto X General] zed011:
I am not sure yet still need time to evaluate. I can tell you that the proximity sensor still does not react to waving and there is still cell standby drain when wifi is on.
[Moto X General] marcgtsr:
I cannot enter the recovery mode, I enter the fast boot and then when I try to enter de recovery I just see a message which says NO COMMAND or something like that, I press bouth volume keys and then the power button.

Nothing happends.
[Moto X General] gokart2:
Hold the power button down, then tap the volume up button.
[Moto X General] el6006:
My XT1060 is ready.
[Moto X General] zed011:
I'm quite happy with Lollipop on the X. I've been able to consistently get 3h30 screen on time compared to the measly 2h20 I had on kitkat.
[Moto X General] athulele:
So Apparently Moto's Gonna skip 5.0.2 and give us 5.1. Don't know if it's true.

https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/cV4vDyyMmw2
[Moto X General] zed011:
Yep its real, posted by admin on moto forum
[Moto X General] flipm00de:
Any talk of soak test?
[Moto X General] guruzen:
5.1 soak test going on in Brazil now.
[Moto X General] flipm00de:
Awesome. Anyone have a link yet?
[Moto X General] ajsonofgod:
Will soak tests ever complete
[Moto X General] sorullo_xgrx:
Go and update your Motorola updates services app. Motorola is getting to push the soak tests or maybe straight update...
[Moto X General] nuffins:
Yes do, there's also an update for moto gallery
[Moto X General] netokee:
good news ;)
[Moto X General] tonymacc:
I'm Italian and i have a moto X. Model XT1052. and now Aggiornamento Motorola is just updated now. Version 4

Very happy
[Moto X General] grhomes:
Would posting an .apk of the updated app be prudent? I haven't seen the update to Motorola Update Services but have seen the Gallery update...and I'm an active member of the MFN and have been for a while now...
[Moto X General] mrbradeli:
Can't believe their even considering not giving us 5.1. If they don't give us 5.1 at the very least I'm done with Motorola altogether. I picked this phone because I wanted to get away from the world of custom ROMs and rooting and actually have a usable, up to date device out of the box.
[Moto X General] todarkness:
one question about this ota. the title says 'for unlocked Moto X(2013)'. why unlocked ? what is with the carrier locked phones like from verizon etc. does it mean verizon is further delaying the update or that there are more problems ?
[Moto X General] raddacle:
It's simpler for Motorola to do soak tests through unlocked phones as the update doesn't need to go through a carrier and instead can be done directly by them. But no, I would expect carrier updates to follow quickly after the wide roll out to the unlocked versions.
[Moto X General] DarkWolffe:
Chill out dude. 5.1 just came out.
[Moto X General] megapinky:
Or 5.1.1 ?

Enviado desde mi XT1058 mediante Tapatalk
[Moto X General] dicarli:
They told this soak test might take longer than usual, about 2 weeks. Maybe one, if everything goes perfectly. So you can expect to receive it by the end of the month.

For the soak testers, the update will start to roll tomorrow.

Also, you indeed need to update the Motorola Update Services, just updated mine.
[Moto X General] nbell13:
Android 6.0 will be out in a year or two... I'm never buying Motorola again because I don't have it yet!! Seriously though, the whining is ridiculous. This is what happens when everyone gets a trophy.
[Moto X General] avenged73:
Honestly lollipop isn't that spectacular. This phone runs great the way it is. Why ruin it?
[Moto X General] bhmcarr:
I can't imagine why the update would ruin it.. Assuming moto fixed the memory leak.
[Moto X General] avenged73:
I can't either but then all we'll hear is everyone complaining about how they don't like the status bar menu or the colors are all wrong etc... I have a nexus 7 it runs great, it just took some time to get used to.
[Moto X General] zed011:
It is not only lollipop itself but what comes with it being some features from the Moto X 2014 such as custom phrase for Moto Voice and the updated Moto Display.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Updated Active Display is pretty much the only reason I want Lollipop.
[Moto X General] Emiliano55:
What's new on on the 'updated' Moto Active Display ??
[Moto X General] wiidbzxt:
If it's the same as the 2014 model, you'll be able to peek at more than one notification when it activates.

People looking forward to update the Moto Contextual Services app, just wait, it takes some time to get the update, I just received the APP update notification right now.
[Moto X General] Petrit Ziu:
Just got the update for Motorola Update Services
[Moto X General] zed011:
Yes precisely. Also it shows the date and battery at the top which is a minor detail but useful.

Hopefully this is exactly what we will get.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.motodisplay&hl=en
[Moto X General] Emiliano55:
Yeahp, I also got the "Motorola Update Services" update recently. Hopefully we will be getting Lolli in about 2 or 3 weeks.

Btw, don't panic just because its 5.02. Chill out people. It might be 5.02 but if Moto makes these tests right, we will not have any bugs or memory leaks out there. Remember its a custom Lollipop made for our Moto X. So, its not like the 5.02 version from the Nexus 5 will the the same exact version as ours. Get the point ?

Btw, I wonder how our Active Display notifications will co-exist with the new "notifications preview" that Lollipop have.... given that we already had that feature (sort of) in the Active Display.
[Moto X General] BlackFang171:
There is a toggle in the settings.
[Moto X General] Emiliano55:
I know you can disable either of the 2. My question was more about if both would co-exist along well or maybe in a bothering way.
[Moto X General] EspElement:
Offical. It is lollipop. Will get the download soon hopefully!!
[Moto X General] HydrogenCyanide:
I'm just waiting for the invite or someone who upload it. :(
[Moto X General] m.ryuu:
extract the rom

If anyone got their hands on the lollipop soak test.. Kindly extract the ota zip and post it here so that even others could flash.

I request you to upload the flashable ota
[Moto X General] sorullo_xgrx:
People in Brazil already getting the update
[Moto X General] guruzen:
Great.. Is it an official update or soak test update?

Thanks
[Moto X General] sorullo_xgrx:
Not sure, already ask but haven't had a answer

Link to +google post

https://plus.google.com/100344134463987804092/posts/FJBjz5QHq3j
[Moto X General] fgaulke:
it's happening!!

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Brazilian users are getting the Soak Test. Probably the official OTA will appear in a couple of weeks....
[Moto X General] shinjipsx:
he said that is soak test
[Moto X General] gambiarraweb1:
https://plus.google.com/100344134463987804092/posts/FJBjz5QHq3j

Receiving Update, waiting for him to do the Download the ZIP and upload somewhere!
[Moto X General] rodaven:
I have a question, if someone upload the update, can we use that update in our Moto X assuming it's unrooted, bootloader locked, etc.? Or is needed a custom recovery?
[Moto X General] lolcopter:
+1 as of this afternoon, 100% stock
[Moto X General] BlackFang171:
It's one or the other. Both cannot be enabled at the same time.
[Moto X General] dicarli:
It's the soak test obviously
[Moto X General] Henil Shah:
Will i be getting an invite now? i would flash the Brazilian Firmware and then capture the OTA!!:good: