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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] 93fuelslut:
What abt people who buy the DT now with LP. Are LP DT's to late to root?

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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
DT come with LP now?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Leraeniesh:
Not yet.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] detonation:
Now let's just hope it gets released soon...I know there can be politics around this kind of thing. Look at the background of the root exploit for the last gen moto devices that only was released because google spilled the beans on it. By no means am I complaining about that, it's just that root for this phone would finally give me a reason to switch to it!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Fruban:
This is good. I've had good experience with ROMs running smoother than the stock software. For some reason my turbo doesn't run as smoothly as my droid maxx did, so hopefully any ROMs will improve functionality. Never felt a need to root the Maxx. I hope someone makes an AOSP lollipop ROM but retain the command center, moto voice, and camera shake functionality.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] miketoasty:
Would definitely love to work some more battery life into the phone, Greenify + Root should definitely help. Looking at actual 48 battery life, which would be amazing.

Didn't have any hope of this before today, but it seems the XDA devs always find ways.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bmcclure937:
Hell yes! I never thought this day would come.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
it wont, at least yet
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] drmrjake:
Sorry noob question... Might this also apply to devices such as the D maxx on 4.4.4?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] golgothagecko:
Please, baby Jesus, post the rootkit this weekend so I can get my phone updated while everyone is out of town.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] localceleb:
I think the important question here is if this exploit is specific to KitKat ? Since there's reason to believe that there's an update in the near future....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
i would hold off on getting lollipop if root was able. with root maybe bootloader can get unlocked. then who cares about lollipop. or anything else verizon shoves down the pipe
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joeriv5692:
Verizon just went...."Uh Oh" !!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
The author in the bounty thread said they were planning on "releasing soon"http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=59394102&postcount=1227
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Coronado is dead:
Oh man, I am so excited to have proper Greenify back.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] SirBindy:
I had no doubt we'd get at least root access, eventually.

There are so many xposed modules I miss having.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
Every Moto droid I have had over the last few years I always heard "That phone will never get root" But they always have. I didn't know how long it would take but I knew without a doubt it would happen. :D
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] apaliy:
This just made my day! I've been waiting for this since the Turbo came out and hopefully the coming up update doesn't patch this... keeping my fingers crossed. :cool:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] windraver:
I held of on updating just in case it increased my chances for root.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
This is for kit kat only?

Also, shouldn't this work on the Moto X 2014 too?!?!!?!?! Please say yes~~~~
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jfriend33:
I will sell my lg g3 and g watch and buy a droid turbo in blue and a moto 360 if we get full root or unlocked bootloader. Finally!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Coronado is dead:
Sure hope the latest update is able to take this :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
if not then i think there is going to be a round of people losing their phones. it is still too early for rebuilt ones for warraentee
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] diabl0w:
I think this is the fifth time I've read this question
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] civiksi:
That's f'ing great. Thanks [MENTION=1415579]adrynalyne[/MENTION] !!!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] MonkeyMouth:
"Samsung ROMs"
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gqskrub:
I have never had a greater desire to give someone else my money then I do right now.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lgp187inc:
Good News I will stay posted. Is there anyway I could use these exploits or someone to work with me to do this on linux?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Droidavie:
Dude its not even posted yet, come on
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
Your killing me smalls
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
Not only that, it may not ever be posted as a method you can do yourself - it may be more like Sunshine where you pay to have it done.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cstone1991:
Now he'll probably just create a new username and come back to troll some more and we won't know if it's the same guy or not. I'd rather not see a guy like him get banned/disabled.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] evastonian:
So with the DT getting root, do you guys think we're going to see a lot of dev. on this phone like we do with some of the more mainstream Galaxy's? It seems with the droid line, whenever we get root and BL unlock, there's hardly any development. With this being the beast that it is, hopefully we see lots of devs flocking to it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bill0405:
Well, I was on cm11 and 12 on my droid razr hd. Ran great for 3 years until I upgraded to turbo.

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It's supposed to be. (and sure it isn't ;))
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] spinach.chin:
I never expected massive development activity with this phone, even with root and/or unlock. I'll just be happy to see root and maybe a few well deveoped ROMs (if we get unlock).

Actually, I like the almost-stock-ness of the Turbo so much, I'll be happy just to de-bloat and use xposed and a few other things.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] evastonian:
Very true. The thing I miss the most is (along with being able to uninstall everything, and doing stuff with TiBu) is being able to customize the QS menu. That would be fantastic.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] civiksi:
I doubt it. Might see a few but it is just a verizon phone. I bought this expecting nothing. I was kinda done will all the wiping and flashing. It was fun but it is a pain. I'd be happy to root just for wifi tether. Comes in handy when my kids are in the car with their tablets.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Harry44:
I think if we get BL unlock then we might have a chance to have a few ROM's developed and have development take off making this phone more appealing to others. This phone without development is beast, imagine it rooted and rom'd. There are certainly alot of users that have the phone. So the interest is there. It all depends if the right users have this phone in their hand.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] NELORAO:
I think the same way. I like the "moto stock", I hate Verizon apps and I would like to use TB.

For now, you can use this method to easily "DeBloat" your device until root comes out:

Tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk46B_shCSY

Turbo DeBloater: http://rootjunkysdl.com/?device=Droid Turbo

Advanced DeBloater (be careful with this one): http://rootjunkysdl.com/?device=Android Programs&folder=DeBloater
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Tomsgt:
thanks love it when someone shares my work :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] CtrlAltConstruct:
So anyway, what are the risks associated with root and the rooting process? Is it possible for some devices to be bricked due to certainty conditions while the root takes place?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bill0405:
When I get root, the first thing I'm going to do is install Titanium backup and delete all the f'kin bloatware Verizon forces us to look at. THEN I'm going to install Adblock plus so the Internetz isn't shoving ads down my throat every 2 seconds. THEN I'm going to install root explorer and delete that annoying sound that plays every time I reboot my phone. THEN I'm going to install Xposed and Greenify to make my battery last even LONGER (among other things). THEN I'm going to get tethering working because this unlimited data isn't gonna use itself. THEN I'm going to sit on 4.4.4 until some gentleman/woman unlocks our bootloader. When that happens, I will update my post to tell you all the other crazy **** I'm gonna do! (Hows that for shifting the topic back to root?)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Shtiff1:
What Xposed module do you run with Greenify?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bill0405:
The only risk associated with rooting is deleting a file that you shouldn't. Getting root gives you access to all the files on your phone that you cant see in a traditional android file browser. As long as you stay out of the folders you shouldn't be messing with (system folders) you should be fine.

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There's advanced features within Greenify's settings that you can't activate without Xposed.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Shtiff1:
Ok, I'm familiar with that. I thought there might have been something else in Xposed that I was missing. Thank you
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bill0405:
No need to type thanks. Just point your mouse at the thanks! button :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Harry44:
When it comes to the risks of rooting, you really shouldn't worry. There is very little you can do to your android device that you can't undo. Your biggest risk is bricking your device but in today's world you can almost 98% of the time recover from it. There are tools developed to help you recover if you have an issue. As long as you read threads about things you're attempting to do/flash you'll be safe. In the off chance something goes wrong, just flash the stock rom over. Fastboot is there for a reason! And we can thank the android sdk for giving us that amazing piece of software whenever we mess up. Best of luck in your future rooting endeavors. Also everyone at XDA is here to help if you have any issues!

I wouldn't get your hopes up about safestrap. [MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION] stopped supporting safestrap on 9/1/2014. I know its on github and unless someone forks it and makes it work for the Turbo we won't get it. As far as I know there is no alternative to safe strap rom flashing method either.....yet.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] 93fuelslut:
Isn't safestrap only for locked BL?

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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
technically.

my comparison was flashing roms on the Bionic versus the Droid Maxx Dev. some said it *could* be used on an unlocked bootloader.

personally, i like having 2 roms (provided i have the storage space). it was an adjustment to have to wipe/restore backups versus just swapping slots.

id almost say it is an idea worth selling to someone like Moto, [MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION] . i can give you a direct submission link. ;) just my .02 , though.

so long as we can flash somehow, i really dont care how. if root leads to SS or root leads to bl unlock, it is worthwhile.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
Maybe you have inside information about Motorola, idk, but as an outsider it looks to me like Motorola is more interested in staying in the good graces of Verizon and AT&T and also developing the appeal of its phones to business customers. I don't think the carriers want phones that have 2 ROMs on them - 2 ROMs means twice as many calls to customer support by befuddled average joes who can't figure out how to use their phones. And I don't think it appeals to business customers at all - they want the phones locked down tight for corporate security reasons.

If any entity would be interested in it, I would say it would be Google. But if you haven't patented the technology, there is nothing stopping Google from writing their own code that does the same thing.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
ha ha. no. not inside info/connection at all. just a way to submit ideas, as they listen.

as far as business customers and security go, i imagine those people are stock and those people are encrypted.

the average user wants plug and play, wysiwyg operation.

i am a firm believer in nothing digital is truly secure. certain things might take a lifetime to get through, but there always is someone or some group that can get through anything.

i mean they could use a system to keep a fail-safe. it really is a good idea. granted, a fxz can return most phones where they need to be, it is just simple to say press the button without the 'i lost my ____' (enter any files, contacts, pics, etc).

google would love it, but for the wrong reasons, i believe. (EDIT: *monetization of the* user [by application of aggregate] data).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] MoPhoMike:
THEN, your gonna post all the S*** your gonna do and help the REST of us out!! Because I TOO am gonna do everything YOU mentioned and MORE!! I really want to free up about half of that OS OCCUPIED space in my storage!!

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GPS Notifier can be blocked using Debloater program.. I was getting tired of that friggin thing every 2 minutes.. VERY ANNOYING!! I used Gates Junior Debloater to block MANY apps, including Moto OTA so I wasn't forced to take an update that my ruin/limit my chances of root... Go HERE and get it: http://www.rootjunky.com/debloater-tool-android/
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
You won't be freeing up that space, just sayin.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GreaterLesser:
Wasn't there an app that could be used to de-odex any ROM? I can't remember where I saw it. I think it was called Odex\De-Odex our something like that. All it required was root.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
deodexer? script package? i used one on my Maxx for my own personally tweaked stock rom. it worked really well.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2213235
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GreaterLesser:
Close but it was an app that you could sideload on your device, run as root, and then it would reboot you device after deodexing or odexing you system partition
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Well either way, you don't save space.

The partitions aren't dynamic, and therefore you won't be regaining anything.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GreaterLesser:
No I didn't mean to regain space but wouldn't it make system apps a bit quicker or am I mistaken?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Not really because dalvik will simply odex the apks and you are back to what you already had before, just the dex files are located on /data instead of /system.

So you end up with a slower initial boot, and saved space on /system that you don't really need.

Deodexing is good for modifications, and thats about it. The overall performance is identical.

In Lollipop, the files aren't even odexed anymore. They are compiled to machine code native binaries. Now that increases performance.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GreaterLesser:
Yea forgot about that dalvik part....oh well was just a thought
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Character Zero:
Also navigate some github projects both kernal and ROM. I don't build or anything but I liked looking through the code. and you can see changes which, at least for me, can really teach how things work. I remeber looking at the changes back in the ICS days where people were adding options to the unlock ring (used to just be camera) and it was interesting to see where in the code the changes were made.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] diabl0w:
So deodexing and switching to ART in developer section WOULD increase speed?.. is this correct?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ganggreen30:
Adguard I use it works flawless
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] soopervoo:
anybody know if root will work with MobileIron email app?

I really want root for wireless tethering, but I think my work email will not work with root....sigh...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RyanTillery:
Mobile Iron

Mobile@Work will most likely flag your device as "compromised" if it is rooted - depending (of course) on the policies set in place by your company. On my unrooted work phone, I had Greenify installed to help with battery life, and Mobile@Work as required; Greenify was apparently on a list of "root" apps, and I received a nastygram in my email about my device being rooted, which was absolutely moronic. Ended up emailing back and forth for three weeks with an IT security guy in Slovakia, who asked questions like "Is it possible that Apex Launcher rooted your device?" Yeah, it's *just* that easy to root a Moto, isn't it? This is a guy paid to know the ins and outs of mobile devices. Anyway, a rooted device, for most any company that will implement Mobile Iron (or most other Mobile Device Management software for company-connected devices and proprietary info) is a pretty universal no-no.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
While I agree with all of this, Xposed root cloaker tricks the best of the best apps. But of course you need root and then Xposed.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RyanTillery:
Right, and I've used that for a few things before, but in this case, you're looking at MDM software that requires device administrator privileges, and constantly reports back to a company dashboard, with a list of every app installed on the device. Xposed would probably grab some attention, and Root Cloaker would most certainly raise an eyebrow or two. For a lot of the folks implementing Mobile Iron, they know next to nothing about root aside from what they're told by ultra paranoid security folks in IT. Does a rooted device give you chlamydia? They don't know. It's a little witch hunt designed to err on the side of caution, and to them, any conversation including the word "exploit" is probably going to end with company info getting out into the wild.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhouse1983:
And remember folks......xposed doesn't work with 5.1. So a choice will have to be made. I don't think root is worth it to me if xposed doesn't work.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RyanTillery:
I wasn't even aware of that... what a bummer. I'd probably rather have root than 5.1, if I absolutely had to choose one or the other. I'd still like to block ads, fix my hotspot, remove the bloatware, use GravityBox and Greenify modules, etc.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
For people worried about losing their corporate email after root I thought I’d share this. My employer uses Air-Watch for the email server. Well they want all kinds of ridicules control over my device and I just wasn’t having that because its my device and not a company phone. Well come to find out for whatever reason I was able to bypass the Air-Watch app and uninstall it by using the the Aqua Mail app. Just remove your corp email from the device and set it up again within the Aqua Mail app and NOT under the accounts setting on the device. I've been bypassing the Air Watch security for about 3 months now. Our IT department asked me why I wasn't using the mobile email "apparently they cant tell at all" I just told them that something in the app didn't agree with my phone and caused glitches so I would just check my mail via internet. No more questions asked since :D Only drawback is your calendar wont sync with the server but I really don’t care about that anyway because I set all my appointments etc on the phone anyway.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] tnowakow:
X_man, is AquaMail similar to MobiMail? Basically just uses OWA connections in an actual email client? I'm currently using that but would love to have a more integrated setup. Would this be possible

* Root phone

* slim down the pre-installed apps by removing them

* make the updates you want, install an ad removal app

* Un-root your phone <-- is this even possible with all your changes still working

* Install Airwatch

* Use integrated corp email with the benefits of rooted apps (the ones you installed while having root)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
I'm not sure tbh. I've never used mobimail. But I do know that when you set it up it does ask if its an exchange server/corporate account. If it was strictly OWA I don't believe it would ask that because it wouldn't matter. I may be wrong on that tho. Maybe one of the other guys here could tell me if I'm right. As far as the rooting then unrooting and still having the benefits of rooted apps I seriously doubt it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] compuguy1088:
Honestly, for some mdm software like good for enterprise, its a cat and mouse race. Even Rootcloak isn't enough to hide root for Good. I recall at one point carrying two phones just to be able to access work email (defeating the whole purpose of mdm/byod).

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Your lucky. Some organizations do not have OWA or Notes Traveler enabled and force you to use the mdm solution.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JasonJoel:
Just remember you may have signed a use agreement to use company IT resources...

In my company we fire people for circumventing IT security requirements when they are caught (and they are getting much better at catching them). Seems like a dumb way to get fired.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
Yeah I've thought about that. But the only user agreement I've signed is a computer usage policy. I never signed the BYOD agreement because I never completely set up Air-Watch. I set up some other peoples Air-Watch for them and you don't get to the agreement until almost the last step and I stopped the setup process on my phone without agreeing to it ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JasonJoel:
Yeah, everyone's situation is different. Sounds like you are on solid ground.

I just throw that warning out there for others to double check. With the focus a number of companies have on 'cybersecurity' these days, things that used to be a slap on the wrist can get you fired (no matter how dumb that is).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] compuguy1088:
I agree. I've talked to people that have managed/worked with these mdm products. They think that root makes a device the most insure thing in the world. I could tell you the constant list of devices that have never been updated that have far more security vulnerabilities than a rooted device would. The reason they use these products is the mitigate any risk or liability that in the slightest chance could cause a leak of data. I can also tell you that a lot of these mdm's have many issues and don't support the latest operating systems (I'm looking at you good), because these services/apps dig so deep into the operating system to get any inkling of compromise. This is why I've stayed away from Samsung devices since they introduced Knox. I'de rather not void my entire warranty just because I want to use root.

Agreed, hence why I gave up fighting it. I'de rather have a blackberry than use good (its that bad of an app). They really need to balance their paranoia with making an app that actually works to do email/calendar/etc. Its just as bad on iOS as well. The crazy thing is I have a educational background in cybersecurity, and my devices have been more up to date on vulnerabilities than the unrooted ones....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
so who is going to write a "company security" app that requires root? ;) (if ya cant beat 'em, join 'em, right? )
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Slartibartfast_:
You think "Good" is bad? Try MaaS360. Everyone in my company that had to switch from Good to MaaS misses Good now...