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[Nexus 5 General] 19dragon98:
Resuls after 68 hours, and now going to test Code_blue kernel r954 for android 5.1.1 :)
[Nexus 5 General] wintrxtrem:
Do we know how the leak was actually fixed and whether the fix has made its way to AOSP?
[Nexus 5 General] markdapimp:
Apparently Google didn't lie when they've said it's been fixed "internally"

It's the kernel.
[Nexus 5 General] wintrxtrem:
I thought I read there was only one kernel commit and it wasn't related to memory? Or has the kernel source not been released yet? (I don't know where to look)
[Nexus 5 General] j3poii:
My uptime since I reverted to KK... KK is the best ROM for our N5.

Need I say more?

(I wish someone running lollipop can beat this. I might give it a second chance.
[Nexus 5 General] darthanubis:
Not our, your. Give it a rest. You'd have to be crazy to go back to KK.
[Nexus 5 General] j3poii:
Lollipop is the Vista of android. M is on the horizon, the 7 of android world hopefully. No to memory leak of L!
[Nexus 5 General] markdapimp:
Lets look at this from another perspective

KitKat was the equivalent of iOS 6 from iOS 5, Minor changes.

Lollipop is the equivalent of iOS7 from iOS 6.

There are lots of under the hood changes in 5.0 Android than 4.4 As 4.4 was an incremental update from 4.3.

5.2 Android should be stable (Android - M).

Hopefully Then Google will have the right mindset of having public beta's before dogfooding to thousands of Nexus users and OEMS

Really Google? Camera issues since 4.4 Kitkat with the battery drain, Ontop of that Flashlight bug and the memory leak!

Apple wouldn't have never had these BASIC issues with some public testing.
[Nexus 5 General] pfmiller:
I have 182 hours of uptime so far, which is how long it's been since my phone received the 5.1.1 OTA. So far so good, it's been a long time since I've been able to go more than 100 hours without needing a reboot.
[Nexus 5 General] j3poii:
In any way, KK or XP was better than L or vista. I had vista but I returned to XP. Now with iOS, there was no major bug with 7 as compared to our N5's lollipop. I don't think it's a valid analogy. Vista is the equal of L with Windows. iOS? Nope.... Apple people know how to make software.
[Nexus 5 General] markdapimp:
Apple people know how to make software. BINGO!

Google is an Advertisement company, all they care is that you're using Android which serves ads from various sources (Apps, Youtube, Etc) And they're happy.

Apple's only source of revenue is selling hardware and selling content and taking a cut from it.

Do note, I own a Nexus 5, iPhone 5c, Nokia Lumua 635

In no way I'm more favored towards Apple, but the stupid sht with Android and bugs and lack of R&D must end.

Maybe in the future Android won't be top dog no more, Perhaps We'll see iOS, Windows, Tizen.

Samsung wants out of Android/Google... Once that's over with (Samsung is the top market share for Android devices) It's D-DAY for Google/Android.
[Nexus 5 General] Gorgtech:
It´s hard to believe that Android will be replaced by something else, especially by iOS. Do I have to remember you about the "quality" of Apple software ? Updates which literally broke working devices and still the customers bought another Apple device after ?

Apple is good at marketing stuff, not more or less. You don´t only buy a Apple device...no no, you join a ( religious ) cult.

Well, Android might also have some extreme Fanboys but these are a minority in comparison to iSheep.

It´s just like comparing some harmless Jehovah's Witnesses ( Android ) to Scientology ( Apple ).

Do you want a even better analogy ? Well, how about this one: people who eat meat and vegans. Just have a look at this link : http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sponsor

:laugh:
[Nexus 5 General] markdapimp:
Do, please enlighten me on the quality of Apple software
[Nexus 5 General] Gorgtech:
How about this one ?
[Nexus 5 General] markdapimp:
How about the Memory Leak, Flashlight bug, Camera Bug

Or the Nexus 7 brick

http://www.wired.com/2013/12/incredible-glitches-from-google-street-view/

Jony Ive, is that you?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx3pdWBlZ34#t=28
[Nexus 5 General] uodii:
http://www.imobie.com/support/common-ios-8-upgrade-problems-and-solutions.htm

http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-8-update-screws-up-iphones-2014-9

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/4...ery-life-issues-keyboard-freezes-and-more.htm

Cut this nonsense out about 1 company being better than the other about software updates. BOTH have issues when releasing new updates. It's not exactly like they employ thousands or even hundreds of people to test their software. However, it's obvious why Apple appears better at it, they simply have fewer products.

This is a 3 year old article: http://www.cnet.com/news/android-on-600-phones-and-tablets-in-less-than-four-years/

Apple has what, a dozen or so products? It seems to me if iOS ever has ANY type of issue, it should be a far bigger deal than people make them out to be.
[Nexus 5 General] markdapimp:
iOS 8.3 Problems Reported By iPhone And iPad Users: Touch ID, Battery Life Issues, Keyboard Freezes And More - iOS 8.4 coming just before iOS 9 (I don't have these issues)

Data Loss After Updating to iOS8/iOS 8.2/iOS 8.3 - Backup to iTunes, if messed up restore from iTunes backup

Apple's New Software Appears To Be Turning Some iPhones Into Bricks - Apple quickly pulled the update, offered assistance in Apple stores and quickly shoved out a fix
[Nexus 5 General] uodii:
Again, it's much easier to target a fix towards a handful of products that are similar in nature (chipsets, hardware, etc.). Apple controls the release of their software. With android, the carriers basically control the release and have to support a far greater amount of devices...

Also you say "I dont have these issues", then I can honestly fire back with the same about a great majority of issues people on android have experienced. Just because you dont, it doesnt mean they dont exist.
[Nexus 5 General] markdapimp:
Alright, you win but Android L still sucks.
[Nexus 5 General] republicano:
I just can't believe they are discussing android m when L is still plaguing users with these issues since its release, but it would be smart for google to sweep L under the rug

Android l does feel like a transition like honeycomb, small market of users on it, only around 10% I believe.

Google can test this new ui and layout and the next version is what lollipop should of been, just like vista and osx yosemite

I've gotten used to L but I expected a more tight lip os, with security,battery use, google services, less wake lock and ram usage, they need to improve on these to make more android users on the latest version, if they want to retain thier large market share.
[Nexus 5 General] j3poii:
Google has a handful of products too. We are talking about Nexus lineup, and in this thread N5 only! But we've reached up to tjis point where the lollipop becomes almost useless unless rebooted. I have ipad 2 and I never had issues with an update. I have ip6 and things become really interesting. I am not an isheep but I am starting to believe that ios is much much more efficient than android. 3gb ram vs 1gb, really?
[Nexus 5 General] markdapimp:
Also iOS 9 is expected to come out boosting and increasing performance on older devices with the Apple A4 and 512MB RAM

iPad 2, iPad Mini, iPhone 4s, iPod Touch 5th Gen - All will see a performance gain and the update will arrive simultaneously to all devices.

As Google said on Google I/O 'We've fixed thousands of bugs"... Oh really... Guess i'll have to see it for myself.
[Nexus 5 General] NotFromMountainView:
Finally!!!

Absolutely perfect!

Running just beautifully with no sign of memory leak at all!

Cheers Google, you've done it!

*It's been ~90 minutes, I'm just cheering before the crushing disappointment overwhelms me.
[Nexus 5 General] uodii:
So google is the only company with a line of phones running Android? Nexus 5 is the only phone running Android? We're talking about phones RUNNING a specific OS. Some phones experience issues while others dont. Some people experience problems even though others that may be using the same device/rom/etc dont. The underlying discussion is about the OS.

What phones/tablets that dont have Apple branding on it are running iOS? How many phones/tablets that dont have Google branding are running Android? The two are worlds apart and anyone that says otherwise is being naive to say the least.
[Nexus 5 General] Yaz75:
I bristle at these kinds of blanket statements as it is simply not true for all users. I'm not even sure it's true for the majority of users. I've had this phone since launch day and I've never had a single issue that people rail about and curse the heavens that Google is the worst thing ever.

Rant over, back to the usual hyperbole.
[Nexus 5 General] dinoaus:
Memory leak is fixed for me after 191 hours.
[Nexus 5 General] j3poii:
We are talking about Nexus lineup, particularly N5. They can't make the proper rom for N5. I call that bullsht. Don't compare it to Apple, I am an Apple user and I start to get offended when they compare it to android. Lol. OEM's like Samsung, LG, etc. are a different story (except Google devices). These companies just get the android sdk and modify it as per their hardware requirements and add bloats.

I still love my n5 reverted to KK, it's smoothness is comparable to my ip6+.
[Nexus 5 General] kicksilver:
I noticed that the system ram floates around 500mb.

210h uptime, everything smooth.

Enviado do meu Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] j3poii:
Hey, any update after the 90 minute window? Thanks.
[Nexus 5 General] kicksilver:
Mine is always floating in between 450-550mb.

227h uptime, as of now. Performance still optimal.

Enviado do meu Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] markdapimp:
Mine floats about 250-725MB
[Nexus 5 General] NotFromMountainView:
Well...

On the bright side memory looks surprisingly excellent - starts out around 450 but drops to ~325 after a few hours! There's general fluctuation depending on what I'm doing. Of course pre-5.1.1 the needle only ever moved in relentlessly upward direction. Overall, on memory, I am very happy. :D

On the other hand... after a few hours uptime the camera crashes (unable to connect) so I haven't been able to run the phone for days and days on end to see just how long these memory stats stay so excellent. :crying: ***This is not - in my case - the infamous 'flashlight' bug as I have not used the flashlight (or flash) since updating.

Google giveth, and... Google slapeth in the face.
[Nexus 5 General] alen1901:
Yeah, memory leak is finally fixed for me too. Just keep in mind that if you use custom rom and kernel, be sure its compiled with latest aosp changes, otherwise you will still have a memory leak.

Sent from Pure Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] Comed1an:
Over 270 hours here on 5.1.1 and no signs of issues with services restarting or performance glitches that appeared on 5.1 just after two days.

Good stuff! [emoji3]
[Nexus 5 General] BullHorn7:
Actually my lag wasn't caused by memory leak - it was latest version of MOAB hosts file (30mb+). Got rid of it and phone is back to its sweet self.
[Nexus 5 General] ilciumbia:
So it finally seems the leak was solved through an intervention on the kernel... I am using Cataclysm and Code Blue, and updating the rom to 5.1.1 was not enough, I had to wait for the new kernel... Just for the sake of curiosity, has anyone tried to use the 5.1.1 kernel on the 5.1 ROM?

Sent from my Nexus 10
[Nexus 5 General] pfmiller:
Do you have Face Unlock enabled? The camera issue is caused by an app using the camera in the background, Face Unlock is one of the most common causes.
[Nexus 5 General] NotFromMountainView:
I wish, but no, have never used it. Nothing

that I'm aware of

is using camera other than, ya know, actual camera apps. If I reboot I can use the camera(s) for a bit, but only in the first hour or two (or three...) after a reboot.

And just moments ago I got a new treat: microphone is unavailable! Didn't have the patience to reboot just now -- guess I'll wait till I wanna take a picture...

This page needs a really good grimace emoji

But, hey, memory is still looking good!
[Nexus 5 General] pfmiller:
That's too bad. I haven't had a problem at all since disabling Face Unlock. I'm on over 13 days of uptime now and have used the camera and flashlight a number of times.
[Nexus 5 General] surrealjam:
Do you have Viber installed? It's often listed as causing camera connection problems and when I deny it camera permissions, it seems to reduce (or even eliminate) the "cannot connect to camera" message...
[Nexus 5 General] NotFromMountainView:
No Viber either. (or Facebook...I'm kinda a boring user, aren't I?)

Running in Safe Mode now. It all looks and feels so weird after all that time on Nova. The gloomy greyed-out (huge) icons ain't helping me get used to it any faster.

UPDATE: Brzzz ftzzzzcrap and just a couple of hours later camera cannot connect. In Safe Mode. *sigh*

Next up: Factory reset... .

Jolly good fun, wot?

Update #2 Factory reset last night & camera was working this morning!! :)

But not this afternoon :(

Google realized it's 18 months old so won't RMA at this point, referred me to LG who seem to be offering a free repair (!) But gotta send in the phone so the agony of absence would ensue. But this still doesn't feel like a hardware issue anyway... maybe I have the bite the bullet & try an early stab a M as daily driver?

Can anyone with more Android understanding than I give an explanation as to how this is actually likely to be hardware?

* Camera always works for a few hours after booting.

* Camera always fails (either "cannot connect to" or "camera has stopped") within a few hours (~4) of boot. (Got at least 12 hours after the reset!)

* Does not matter if I use any camera apps or not, camera still gone after a few hours of boot.

* In the few working hours I can cycle through all my camera apps flawlessly.

* This all started with the install of 5.1.1.

* Don't use Face Unlock, don't use Viber, haven't been using flashlight/flash...

Hmmm?
[Nexus 5 General] j3poii:
This is one of the reasons why I ditched L. Memory leak, flashlight/camera.

My KK is still doing very good. I play clash of clans with this, Facebook, chrome..., etc.
[Nexus 5 General] markdapimp:
See https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79565

"We've made some major updates to the flashlight for the next Android release, which will hopefully help resolve these issues. The M developer preview includes these updates, but it is not recommended for general use yet.

We did also fix several stability issues between 5.0, 5.1, and 5.1.1., so we believe the incidence of flashlight and camera problems was much reduced.

My apologies to those who were still running into problems"

Keyword Reduced, It should be fixed in M near the final release.
[Nexus 5 General] j3poii:
Lmao to the previous post. Reduced?
[Nexus 5 General] markdapimp:
Apple - We've fixed it 100% (Users Rejoice)

Google - We didn't fix it.. but! We've reduced it! (Users cuss at Google)
[Nexus 5 General] pfmiller:
I haven't noticed any improvement in 5.1.1. My camera failed within a few hours of reenabling Face Unlock. Of course I immediately disabled Face Unlock, so I don't have much of a sample size to go on.

Regardless, cheers to this developer for actually communicating to people through the AOSP bug tracker for a chance instead of closing the issue with no comment as is typical.
[Nexus 5 General] j3poii:
Maybe the leak is solved now as per some user. But is the camera issue still there?
[Nexus 5 General] Edge330:
Google testing humans in their illumimati project, it's funny that big corporation like google need 6 months to fix memory leak, lol.
[Nexus 5 General] luckana:
memory management seems good with uber l kernel
[Nexus 5 General] porman:
My main Nexus is on 130 hours uptime and around 430 mb system ram used at the moment.

I will check my other Nexus 5 later as well. Both are on stock Lollipop 5.1.1.

One runs Google Launcher and has a few games installed, but my main has Nova Launcher and loads of apps except the pre-installed Gapps.
[Nexus 5 General] kinderko1000:
Is this normal on 5.1.1? I mean that restarting of apps
[Nexus 5 General] kicksilver:
Is this totally stock?

Enviado de meu Nexus 5 usando Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 General] kinderko1000:
Of course I am also not rooted. But after ota I didn't do factory reset
[Nexus 5 General] markdapimp:
Completely normal
[Nexus 5 General] j3poii:
Was it fixed and now running better than KK?

I was talking about this screen shot.

796 hrs! That's 33 days without reboot! Buttery smooth as I was typing and still going on!
[Nexus 5 General] markdapimp:
Lollipop baby! :cowboy:
[Nexus 5 General] -sheldor-:
Does whatsapp usually take that much memory as mine does?! Constantly >300MB as soon as it's started.. it also gets very slow, almost impossible to write when I start texting longer messages..

System takes about 350mb, that seems okay.

I'm using latest Cataclysm ROM 5.1.1 and latest Code-Blue Kernel, also removed whatsapp (cleared data and cache first) and reinstalled it without any impact. Is it possible that whatsapp cannot handle a big database of messages (>100k), pictures (>2k) etc.?
[Nexus 5 General] Edge330:
Do you running last version of whatsapp?

In mine case it takes around 80 mb.
[Nexus 5 General] ilciumbia:
88 MB for me as well...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] -sheldor-:
Latest Whatsapp v2.12.121, yes.. so there really seems to be a problem over here :D
[Nexus 5 General] madrigal77:
I couldn't replicate this bug on the latest Purity with code blue kernel. I tried farm heros saga and 7 other games.
[Nexus 5 General] markdapimp:
Before complaining, please try stock :good:
[Nexus 5 General] Comed1an:
Personally I find the 5.1.1 to be very good, now with over 400 hours since last restart. Memory management seems to work as expected and the UI is as smooth as it was right after the update.

My N5 has always been completely stock, with some upgrades via OTA's and the latest 5.1 and 5.1.1 as side loads, but since I unboxed the phone in beginning of 2014 I have never wiped or done a factory reset as my expectation is that things just have to work without wiping and loosing data and settings.

After the utterly crappy 5.0 and 5.1 the 5.1.1 feels amazingly good.
[Nexus 5 General] xsoulsaber:
I had this host file in ad away as well. After removing the file, phone is back to normal!
[Nexus 5 General] j3poii:
This one is holding me from updating to L.

1176 hours of uptime. KK 4.4!
[Nexus 5 General] RolF2:
and 766 hours uptime and 1.2GB free RAM on L here ...
[Nexus 5 General] birdie:
I still see memory leaking here (Nexus 5, vanilla Android 5.1.1).

On start up the system eats around 400MB of RAM while over 1,2GB of RAM is free.

After just a few days of uptime the system eats over 800MB of RAM while just 500MB of RAM is free.

Don't get me started on atrocious memory life in any Android 5.x. Android 4.4.x worked miles better.
[Nexus 5 General] azlan96:
Noticed less memory leak but I am still having camera issues, "Cant connect to the camera" Camera Error. Have to restart everytime that happens, flash light wont work either
[Nexus 5 General] kr1pt:
Somebody forgot to do free().
[Nexus 5 General] GldRush98:
ITT: People STILL don't understand how Linux uses ram in 2015.

The leak is fixed.
[Nexus 5 General] chrone:
The Android bug tracker did confirmed the memory leak on Android 5.1 at the end of the thread. :D

I noticed slow down on UI responsiveness and smoothness, and apps getting reload often after almost 2 days of uptime on Nexus 5. But same setup on Android One device running Android 5.1 with kernel 3.10 does not lagging the UI rendering at all almost a week of uptime. :D
[Nexus 5 General] kicksilver:
People aren't thinking straight.

In Linux, RAM is supposed to be always filled with cached apps in order to provide optimal multi-tasking, experience, CORRECT.

The problem is that the systam RAM usage is rampant & non-decrescent, so the own system will uncache apps to make way for itself, resulting in a terrible multi-tasking experience.

The bug persists in 5,1. I hope we'll be seeing 5.1.1 soon, with the definite fix.
[Nexus 5 General] zerosum0:
Critical?? Its not imo a bug. Mines at 30%and I've not cleared it for hours. If you have a lot of apps that start on boot, esp games they will hog the ram. Stop them booting, not with a task killer but something like cm cleaner. It stops them booting but does not freeze them. BTW a new os or kernel needs bed in and takes a day or two. You are panicking over nothing IMO.

---------- Post added at 06:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:52 PM ----------

Another thing is I don't think app-developers have got to grips with the new OS. Most of my apps have been updated two dozen times, some weekly to fix 'bugs' Real racing 3 is unusable again
[Nexus 5 General] opssemnik:
its not just xda, its everywhere, "new os", well this os is meant to be used on more than a billion of devices, a little *real world* testing its the minimum expected from such OS before its released
[Nexus 5 General] MrMarques01:
I'd suggest you do some research before posting wrong information.
[Nexus 5 General] DevJan:
It IS a leak, if the device gets laggy after 94 hours with 1.1 GB system mem usage, 400MB app mem usage and 150 MB cached memory.

I have a few linux box which can work stable for months without increasing memory usage. I can tell that this issue is not coming from linux. Google messed up the android somehow and cannot fix it back.

Edit: I would stay in 4.4.4, if it wouldn't ask me to install 5.x every 5 minutes.
[Nexus 5 General] zagorteney:
You can simply stay on 4.4.4 by doing this: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=54459582&postcount=3
[Nexus 5 General] Pastorelli's:
Memory leak still exists.

Google acknowledged it, and they say it's fixed, but the status is Future Release, so maybe we'll be seeing 5.1.1 soon.

Source : https://code.google.com/p/android/is...tail?id=159738
[Nexus 5 General] SoftWord:
people: try with synapse and setting minfree to "Exterminate", trust in me, it's incredible but i'v solved my problems of lag.

I think that all "free()" and all memory leaks are ok but there is something about VM cache......like someone us has said....
[Nexus 5 General] markdapimp:
All these memory leaks, killing me
[Nexus 5 General] FunDionysus:
Updated my N5 from 5.01 to 5.1 three days ago. Rebooted several times after installing. Then left phone on for three days (wfi and cell radio off, gps off). Only usage has been launching/closing calendar app a few times, and launching Settings>Apps to view device memory usage. Otherwise the screen is off.

Only running apps are: Greenify (free), Google Keyboard, and Google Services (four svcs & one process).

As on 5,0.1 I have employed the 'Disable Service' app to disable various Systems services: eight (8) Google Play services, three (3) Google Services Framework services, one (1) YouTube service, four (4) Gmail services, and one (1) Qualcomm service (QcrimsgTunnel Service). I have not disabled any Third Party services.

Settings > Apps > Running shows for Device Memory:

System 360-390MB

Apps 140-157MB (95-113MB attributed to Settings app)

Free 1.3GB

When launching the Settings app the memory usage reported for Settings increased to 110-115MB. But after closing Settings app and let it remain closed for awhile, settles back down to <100MB usage.

Will keep watch for another day or so but with very minimal usage, it appears I'm not observing memory leak issue.

Question: Is TRIM operation still occur on reboot only. Or does android run TRIM operation at regular intervals without a reboot?
[Nexus 5 General] toaom2:
Removing Facebook Messenger from my device indeed cleared up the slowdowns completely. I also installed the Boot-animation fix and the combination is great. Today looks like it will be a 24h uptime.
[Nexus 5 General] californicated:
Got 140h uptime with no leak yet. Must be something special that's triggering that beast.
[Nexus 5 General] Gerhard.M:
..tnx just read it, and was about to post it