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[Wear OS General] henkim21:
Speculation aside, it is the developers' decision on their timetable to develop, release, respond...etc.

In terms of speculation, there are hints that Google is working on it, but nobody knows for sure as to what depth. Apple may block their submission just like they did with the devs that are working on ANCS solutions currently. I am of the opinion that the devs have already put hard work into it so even if Google is putting something out, until a timetable is confirmed, I would continually work on it. But that's just me.

In terms of technological possibility, I think [MENTION=3395877]ali.almahdi[/MENTION] has mentioned that the solution for the Moto360 is to initiate auto reconnection of bluetooth via an iOS app. If Apple decides to approve his app, I think it may work. [MENTION=2011359]MohammadAG[/MENTION] may have a similar implementation in his iOS app but I havent heard anything specifically. I do know that [MENTION=6499164]shiitakeo[/MENTION] has not as of yet worked out the kinks for the Moto360. Also, if the devs are willing to release on the Cydia platform for jailbreakers, waiting for an approval process wouldnt apply. But their decision. Open sourcing the project may also be an avenue to get it into jailbroken devices. But for non jailbreakers, an iOS app I think is the only way that I have any hopes for to relieve Moto360 woes. I know that [MENTION=2011359]MohammadAG[/MENTION] has mentioned on his twitter that the reason for his rejection is that his app lacked content, so he was working on iOS Health integration. [MENTION=3395877]ali.almahdi[/MENTION] said that the reason for his rejection was that they wanted a tutorial video of how to use the app.

Right now, I'm hopeful for these 2 devs to get an Apple approval, but what I really would love is for them to submit this project into Cydia. It would be awesome if we could get more features connected to a jailbroken device.

I only purchased the 360 because it was affordable due to Best Buy's promotion which I hear has now ended. If it means much to you, I agree with [MENTION=235066]firehawk[/MENTION]. The LG G Watch R is much better in almost every way. If I could justify the money, I wouldve done that in the first place. But hey, I couldn't pass a 360 up for $60.
[Wear OS General] firehawk:
Again, I think the problem is root/system level in the 360. Some persistent daemon or OS configuration keeps cutting out the bluetooth, and refusing to let a background process request take priority.

It's likely no amount of wear app code could fix this. And even less likely some iOS app code could fix this.

The fix would have to be at the 360's system level. Changing something as root, or installing some differently behaving OS firmware.

But I could be wrong.
[Wear OS General] timnwyatebe:
!!

;)Status update: I haven't abandoned the project, I just don't want to give any false promises. I should be releasing next week for sure tho.

from mohammadag

https://twitter.com/mohammadag/status/589378467428491264
[Wear OS General] firehawk:
New Android Wear just announced

www.engadget.com/2015/04/20/android-wear-wifi-and-gesture-support

-Always on Apps

-Wifi

-Wrist gestures

-Easier app launches

-Emoji drawing

No mention of iOS support, but it could be unadvertised. We will know when the update starts deployment.
[Wear OS General] timnwyatebe:
because its update for watch LOL
[Wear OS General] wez_db:
Exactly, two different things. Which would hopefully be their next press release ;)
[Wear OS General] iAppleDev:
Wifi! Nice can't wait then android wear should work with iPhone's hotspot! Any apks in /system/app and /system/priv-app can use networking right now so I assume the same will be with wifi!

/system is small partition and only about 30+mb free, so you can't just move any or all the apps like Chrome, Dolphin Web, UCBrowser, PlayStore, file manager apk's etc... But what can be done is install an old version of playSore or witch ever APK you wish to use to /system and update it with newer apk to /data partition where there is 2+gb free, then make an dummy apk with everything removed but the older version AndroidManifest.xml file and META-INF folder with file in it zip it and rename and move to system after update and the app still work with networking ;) and playstore.apk in /system is 200kb not 10+mb and it works with Chrome and other apps just get an older version and make dummy apk to put in system after you update the app.
[Wear OS General] firehawk:
I would have thought that if Google releases iOS support for Wear, it would be built into the firmware like how the ANCS calls were inside 4.4.

This intermediate Wear release shows that the iOS support isn't ready for release yet. But rumors are that it will be announced at Google I/O conference on May 28th. Still not holding my breath though.

The Wifi is interesting, if it works on existing 360s or G Watch Rs and doesn't do massive power drain. Hopefully it lets you use data-hungry Wear apps by tethering to your iPhone's data plan via hotspot. Right now any Wear app that needs data would require bluetooth to an Android phone that is currently online. Not terribly useful overall, but maybe we can use it to scrape weather data or synchronize the clock.
[Wear OS General] GuiyeC:
Release of "iOS Wear Connect"

Hello everybody!

I'm new here, I took shiitakes's project and practically rebuilt it, it is now working much better and has a lot more features. I started working because Telegram notifications for example were not working at all, it turned out that the notification data wasn't being properly processed.

I changed the name to iOS Wear Connect because I thought "android_wear_for_ios" was a little meh.

I managed to improve notification management, control media from the watch and get battery level updates on the watch. Also I changed the way incoming calls are managed, there is a picture at the end.

I can't post outside links yet but you can easily find the project on GitHub by the name of "iOS Wear Connect" or in my profile "GuiyeC".

You can also find me on Twitter, I'm [MENTION=6614388]GuiyeC[/MENTION]

[IMG="Incoming call"]https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/289797/7249800/5529e7ee-e81d-11e4-9fe2-ec09d0bab814.png[/IMG]

[IMG="Notification"]https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/289797/7250594/18b280ee-e824-11e4-9d46-81733a81ed36.png[/IMG]
[Wear OS General] wez_db:
Awesome! Cant wait to try it out, have you made any changes to the BT connection to have potentialy improve the 360's connection ?

And/or would you be able to ? ;)
[Wear OS General] GuiyeC:
I have not even seen a Moto 360 on person :D so I can't say anything. With help maybe I could try to see what the problem with Moto 360 is.

Also tweet or retweet about it to get the word out! I don't have a lot of followers.
[Wear OS General] svdemon:
Installed your app and it worked for about an hour or so. Got two phone calls and I was able to answer both by selecting it on my moto 360. I was also able to try out the media controls which worked to a tee with two twenty minute videos. only flaw in the experience was after that time I got a text and nothing showed even though the iPhone said it was still connected. I went back into light blue to see if blank was still on and it wasn't so I turned it back on but now your app is stuck on the searching notification card
[Wear OS General] gidi:
This is great news! Thank you for your effort.

I see a mobile.apk and a wear.apk in your github. What is the first one for?

Anyone with a Moto 360 can comment on connection stability?

BTW, lots other people have grown tired of waiting for MohammadAG's sollution.
[Wear OS General] GuiyeC:
mobile.apk: You can install this on an Android device and then sync with an Android wear watch and the app will appear on the watch.

wear.apk: This is for installing directly on the watch, you can do this over adb for example.

I don't have a Moto 360, it appears to work to some people and to other people it doesn't, I will check tonight if I can do something to make it more reliable but I have had no connection problems with my LG G Watch.
[Wear OS General] svdemon:
my findings were posted just before yours. so far it does last longer than shiitakeo's but it was giving a false positive connection on the iphone. it wasnt fowarding the notifications even though it showed the watch connected. as of right now it just shows searching on the watch. I'm going to uninstall and reinstall to see if I can get things up and running again.
[Wear OS General] gidi:
[MENTION=544645]svdemon[/MENTION] has already provide feedback on Moto 360 stability. Hopefully wou can work this out.

How about adding more functionality like Siri/Google Now? That would of course require a JB iPhone.

Also, how about networking on the watch itself while tethered to the iPhone via BT?
[Wear OS General] GuiyeC:
Moto 360

Everyone with Moto 360, state your Android Wear version and experience, maybe updating helps.
[Wear OS General] svdemon:
I'm currently on 5.0.2. on the moto 360. Since my last status update I was able to get it back connected after uninstalling and reinstalling the app otherwise nothing I did would get back connected (i.e checking "blank", forgeting the bluetooth and trying reauthorization)
[Wear OS General] GuiyeC:
Turning off and on the iOS Service should have the same result as reinstalling, is it staying connected?
[Wear OS General] svdemon:
after a restart of the watch and turning off/on the ios service it did reconnect. I'm going to wait to see if it disconnects and just trying the off/on method. hoping for the best
[Wear OS General] cwegrecki:
I am using 5.0.2 as well and have tested several things on my moto 360. I lose connection anywhere between 5 min and 20 minutes without any notification. If i get at least 1 notification within 20 minutes it seems to stay connected for the most part. As for reconnecting the only steps i take are to turn off the service from in the watch, then forget the blank connection in settings. Set watch airplane mode to on then back off. After doing that turning the service back on and repairing with phone works every time for me. Just wanted to throw this out there to hopefully help find a resolution.
[Wear OS General] swyner:
Great work here!!! I tested on LG G Watch R and all works as normal except.

1) when you control music then stop it seems any notifications coming in after do not show on watch although I get the buzz.

2) it seems to disconnect and maybe it's me but I had to re-pair twice now for no real reason. I see "connecting" show up on a card and my "blank" is not checked on iPhone.

Icons are much much better and battery and music control without using a modded signed app is awesome! Will keep testing. Edited. Now this is awesome! No more buzzing twice and showing notifications twice! Also when you read the notification (ie it no longer becomes a notification on iPhone) it disappears from watch. HUGE awesomeness there!!!
[Wear OS General] slpro:
Great work!! iPhone 6 and LG G Watch R awesome now!!
[Wear OS General] iAppleDev:
Did you upload your changes to Shiitakeo github?
[Wear OS General] cwegrecki:
Fix for moto 360 disconnect!

Hello all. I have been trying to find a way to keep the moto 360 connected without the drop after 20 minutes. I found a solution that has worked for me for the last 2 hr and 15 min. I have setup 4 recipies in the app IF (formerly IFTTT or If This Then That) I setup 4 recipies as follows which force a notification to the phone every 15 minutes therefore keeping the connection active.

I cant post actual links but here is my best shot

Step 1 - ifttt dot com /recipes/281725-moto-360-iphone-force-connection-1

Step 2 - ifttt dot com /recipes/281726-moto-360-iphone-force-connection-2

Step 3 - ifttt dot com /recipes/281727-moto-360-iphone-force-connection-3

Step 4 - ifttt dot com /recipes/281728-moto-360-iphone-force-connection-4

Let me know if this works for others!
[Wear OS General] GuiyeC:
I did not, I forked his project and I didn't just improve little things I practically changed everything, I didn't like the way he writes code and so I want to keep it separate. I'm not considering a pull request as they are very different projects right now. Also he is asking for donations and I'm not, I may ask for donations to get a Moto 360 and try to get it working, maybe do a little lottery with it between everybody who helped if I can solve its issues.

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If this is true maybe I could keep the connection alive sending a package asking for the battery level every 5 or so minutes. Is this working without ambient mode on?
[Wear OS General] henkim21:
Although this is a good find, I wouldn't call it a fix...more of a workaround. For a smart watch, the main thing for me is to look less at my phone and ignore things that can be ignored at a quick glance. However, this is good progress. If ifttt forcing notifications works, then it seems like the Moto360 power saving theory is closer to being proven. Keeping the connection alive with something like the battery level or a "connection status" might be an idea? Edit: [MENTION=6614388]GuiyeC[/MENTION] just posted the idea...haha

Aaaaaand literally as i was typing this I was trying to control music. It was working for a bit and then my 360 disconnected while I was using it. The watch says "searching iOS device" and Light Blue says Blank is on. I tried turning the iOS service off and on, no go. I tried deleting Blank and recreating it, no go. I'm on 5.0.2, Moto 360, ambient mode off.

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I also noticed that when I adb the apk it goes into /data/local/tmp/wear.apk according to the terminal output...is this normal? "tmp" kinda raises my eyebrow...
[Wear OS General] cwegrecki:
Ambient mode is OFF
[Wear OS General] svdemon:
i made it to about an hour and within that time I got to two IF notifications and a couple of emails before I went back to the searching card. Not sure if it makes a difference but I was playing music the whole time. In my experience whenever I'm some kind of media whether it be music or a video the connection last longer the second I stop playing either a few minutes later I'm trying to reconnect
[Wear OS General] cwegrecki:
Very Interesting. I checked my IFTTT channel and all of them but one have run 3 times and I have no music or video playing of any kind. I recieve texts, emails, facebook notifications along with other randoms. I am running 5.0.2 and iPhone 6 running iOS 8.1. Not sure if that makes any difference.

I will say however that i just tried to control audio / video of some kind and dont have any notification or audio control options. Am I missing something?

Have you had any updates to your .apk since this morning?

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I agree that this is not a fix, and did not say it was. I am just trying to help those who have a moto 360 and are looking for something to help in the interum until someone else finds a better method.
[Wear OS General] croccio:
can't connect gear live with 5.0.2 and iphone 6 with 8.1.2 please provide step by step instruction
[Wear OS General] cwegrecki:
Do you have access to an android phone or tablet?
[Wear OS General] svdemon:
I'm on 8.1.2 on the 6plus and as for the media I have the same thing where the media controls over power the other notifications. Im still using your iff method and this time around I'm having more sucess I've had three so far
[Wear OS General] GuiyeC:
v1.1 Ready for download

Good news everyone!

I just uploaded a new versión:

Option to turn on Color backgrounds.

Option to turn off battery updates.

Added Snapchat icon.

Experimental fix for Moto 360.

The Moto 360 fix is sending a request to the iOS device every 250 seconds to try to keep the connection alive, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO WORK

Test it and tell me the results!
[Wear OS General] cwegrecki:
Awesome, Glad its working for now. Even if it disconnects I still feel like it is lasting longer than the flat 20 minutes most are seeing and the plus side is if you dont get the notification after one of the 15 min intervals then you know that it has disconnected... Again I hope that we see an actual fix in the future but for now this will have to do.

posted this as GuiyeC posted one :)

Im going to try his update to see how it behaves. Stopping IF notifications for now.
[Wear OS General] croccio:
yes
[Wear OS General] henkim21:
The title of that post says otherwise. But again, it's a good find. I'll try it out if 1.1 doesn't work and post my results as well.
[Wear OS General] josue85:
Ok, I feel really, really dumb. I've looked up and down the github page, and I can't find the apk to download. The link https://github.com/GuiyeC/iOS-Wear-Connect/blob/master goes to a 404 not found page.
[Wear OS General] henkim21:
you want the releases page. https://github.com/GuiyeC/iOS-Wear-Connect/releases

wear.apk if you want to adb straight to your wear device.

mobile.apk if you want to sync with and existing android device compatible with wear.

[MENTION=6614388]GuiyeC[/MENTION] 15 minutes in Moto 360 is still connected :) I've never gotten past the 10 minute mark thus far (I dont get many notifications). I'll keep you updated!
[Wear OS General] cwegrecki:
TRY THIS again sry cant post actual links yet

github dot com /GuiyeC/iOS-Wear-Connect/releases/tag/v1.1

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@guiyec I too have been running it for about 15-20 min so far so good. I do have one quesiton. How are you determining the backgroudcolor(). Every notification is white or black still except the following 2 notifications. - App Installed (iOS Connect) and - Snapchat. Even the default messages app is showing a white backgroud.

Just wanted you to know since I know you said you use the black because you like it better.
[Wear OS General] henkim21:
around 25 minutes in, no "searching" card on watch, but no notifications. Blank service still on.
[Wear OS General] gidi:
This is a great finding! Please keep us posted on the progress.
[Wear OS General] ghc:
Hey henkim21, is your 'around 25 minutes' update with the new 1.1 version or with the IFTTT option (or both?)?
[Wear OS General] henkim21:
Havent gotten around to try the ifttt bit yet. but it was with the v1.1 apk. moto 360 5.0.2, iP5s 8.1.2. Ill post back if the ifttt works when I get around to it.

just a thought, maybe the new android wear update with "always on" apps might help in this project. but by then [MENTION=2011359]MohammadAG[/MENTION] 's solution might be released.
[Wear OS General] cwegrecki:
Ok so I have a quick note from the 1.1 build. I have run a timer on my 2nd phone from the time i hit pair to the time i get the disconnect card.

1st - 23min 52sec - Lots of stock notifications durring this time

2nd - 20min 23sec - only 2 notifications early on from stock text app

3rd - 21min 41sec - no notifications durring this time.

Im turning back on the IFTTT notifications to see if that still works for me.

And its dead :( guess I have to wait until after work to do further testing
[Wear OS General] henkim21:
Same result here. around 17 minutes in. :crying:
[Wear OS General] svdemon:
same results i reactivated IF to see about getting longer results but no dice it actualy disconnects faster and now i have turn on/off airplane to reconnect
[Wear OS General] iAppleDev:
Nice work! I just dowloaded your wear.apk with UC Browser on my gWatch and installed it with ES file explorer only took 1min;) https://vimeo.com/125623073 fixed the notifications for TextMe,Pinterest, Facebook,etc... :) and music player can control pause, play, skip and volume:)

Do you want names of apps for icons or com.bundle.ids and icons uploaded

could you add an color picker for background of music player buttons?

Can you add keyboard text reply options to the Apple messages app and or Text+,textMe,etc... Or other messaging apps threw responseID?
[Wear OS General] timnwyatebe:
maybe add app for google play?
[Wear OS General] hvnk:
Noob here. Can someone possibly explain to me how to install this step by step? I have an iPhone 6+ running 8.3 and a Moto360 still in the box. I have been waiting for something like this that would allow me to use android wear on an iPhone because I don't own an Android phone/tablet. Any help would be appreciated.
[Wear OS General] briwil:
Parallels

check this out-

www dot idownloadblog.com/2015/04/07/how-to-pair-android-wear-without-android-phone

(sorry, can't post a link here)

Its pretty much your only choice unless you get an android tablet.
[Wear OS General] josue85:
I'm about to leave for the day, but I can give you the gist, and you can google for more details. This is by no means user friendly or easy, each step might require you do some research.

1) Since you don't have an android device, you will need to setup a virtual machine to run android. I used VM Ware, and downloaded an ISO for android 4.4 from here http://sourceforge.net/projects/android-x86/

Note, your computer needs to have bluetooth, or you need a bluetooth dongle, or else this will not work.

2) On your android VM, install Android Wear. Connect to your Moto 360 (make sure bluetooth is on before you start the android VM. If it wasn't, reboot Android.

3) In android, you will need to go into the settings | Security, and check "Unknown Source". Then, open https://github.com/GuiyeC/iOS-Wear-Connect/releases from the android browser, and download the mobile.apk. Click on the download and install.

4) Go to Android Connect, click on the gear icon to go into the settings, and click on the option to refresh the apps on the watch. This should install the app on the watch. You are now done with the Android VM.

5) In iOS, go to the appstore and install the Light Blue Low Energey app. Open the App, and click on the plus (+) sign in the upper right. Choose Blank. On your watch, click the screen to bring up the launcher menu. Scroll to the bottom where there is an option for Start... Click on that, and then find iOS Wear Connect. In the Light Blue app, you should get a pairing request. It'll ask you for a code, that code should be on your watch. Pop it in and hit pair. Click ok on the watch. After all that, you'll have a connection for between 30 minutes to an hour, and it will lose connection unfortunately. When it does, you have to go into airplane mode on your watch then turn it off and try connecting again.

I realize this isn't the step by step you wanted, but hopefully it will get you started or scare you away at the amount of work for something that isn't totally functioning on the 360 (by no fault of the developer).
[Wear OS General] swyner:
I am not sure about reconnection automatically. Maybe that is my issue with me finding it disconnected the odd time. I will test today some more. That is what I was mentioning in my above post as there is not currently an easy way to see if everything is connected. If you go to Bluetooth devices on the watch it shows both "blank" and "iphone" as disconnected but it's currently connected as I am getting notifications. I wonder if there is some way to make this easier to see if the wearable apk is connected and can see that on the watch.

As for the LG vs Moto I was in the same boat. I bought the Moto 360 and love it but I am travelling in the US and saw the G watch R and loved it too. Lol. The LG isn't available in Canada so I bought it and will test both out and see which one I like. Awesome to see you here Gidi as I gave up on the Gear S with iPhone as it was just too cumbersome.
[Wear OS General] gidi:
From today on i will be testing too. Totally agree it would be nice to have a clear indicator of connection status on the watch itself. Mind though that even people with Android phones after upgrading to Lollipop have been experiencing connection problems with Android Wear!

As a sidenote, i did not give up on the Gear S. I consider this a one of a kind device that i use only standalone. Sometimes i do not want to carry a phone with me and in these cases the Gear S is a life saver. Especially for joggers it is undeniably incredible.