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[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkOrPn:
I just got an email from NVIDIA saying its almost here. It starts out saying the wait is over, but then goes on to say its still not available and that they are giving away one Shield Console everyday until it is available to the public. I hate emails that start off telling you the wait is over but then asks you to wait some more, lol...
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ady702:
Its out!

Although only can see USA and Canada

$199.99 for 16GB

$299.99 for 500GB

http://shield.nvidia.com/android-tv

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[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pixelwitch:
I'm not personally too interested in the gaming aspects but that amount of GPU power will prove very, very interesting. My main hope is that somebody can produce a minimal linux install for HTPC with Kodi and mpv builds, or perhaps just a release of Debian.

This device is the perfect low-cost HTPC. It should have more than sufficient CPU power for 10-bit h.264 and h.265 decode as well as sufficient compute power on the GPU side for EWA-type resamplers for chroma and image. I'm given to understand the X1 has full desktop opengl compatibility so it ought to be fully compatible with mpv (though I'm unsure of the state of the ARM builds).

The denver CPU should be more than enough to handle metadata crawling and the likes via Kodi in a non-sluggish fashion too. Christ, this device needs more videophile attention...
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skrowl:
Just ordered mine on Amazon. It'll be here Sunday.

XDA needs a forum for it. This old shield handheld forum is for a completely different device.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Batfink33:
Just ordered mine from Amazon US to be delivered to the UK next week by expedited delivery. What an absolute beast of a machine.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] minieod:
me too!

returning my fire tv to them for a full refund, and getting this

this will be great to stream my pc to the tv so i can play games like witcher 3 in full 4k 50" vs 1080p 24"

and all the other stuff it does
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ady702:
Full review

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9289/the-nvidia-shield-android-tv-review
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericvh:
Shield Console Rooting Experience Thus Far...

Got mine this afternoon and after futzing a bit, tried to root it. It came with developer mode already enabled, one hassle for me is that rebooting to fastboot makes the screen blank so I had to fly blind to oem unlock. So, I've got an unlocked system at the moment, but Super SU is still not working because their is no su on the device. Anyone make it any further than me? I also went ahead and cracked it open to see if there were obvious serial port connection points. Looks like there's a nice spot for a laptop hard drive that is probably populated in the Pro model.

I'm going to look into building my own kernel + ramdisk to try and get the necessary tools in place so SuperSU can work, but I'm a bit worried that the screen isn't going to work and so I'll essentially be flying blind through the whole process.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A.N.Droid:
Does that that mean there is an internal SATA connector or not?
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GalaxyWhy:
Yeah no SATA connector but there is an option in the settings to install all apps to an external hdd or micro sd card anyways :)

PS. Anyone know if this will be getting a dedicated XDA Forum? I'll probably be picking one up soon
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericvh:
Hard to tell for sure, looks like there might be solder points for it, but no header. I've got the 500GB on order, will post the diffs when it arrives.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkOrPn:
Can everyone who visits this thread please take the time to do a official request for adding the SHIELD Console forums please? Just visit the below thread and put in your request please. Thanks

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1660354
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sfin54:
Considering this for my daughters.

Just curious, what multi-controller games are available? So that using 2 controllers, my daughters could play against each other.

Thank you.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericvh:
Just as an update on rooting efforts - built an android kernel based off golden fostermp sources, but just get the nvidia splash screen on boot (which the bootloader puts there). It does look like there are two serial ports, one of which the console is going to...so next step is a more thorough tear down to identify the headers so I can get the serial port on there. If anyone has already gotten further, please let me know. Will post pictures of the full teardown when I do it for others to use as a resource.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teletype:
I sniffed the OTA update URL and downloaded the image, then built a TWRP recovery with the stock kernel. TWRP had a couple quirks, but it was good enough to get root. I posted the steps and a recovery image in this thread.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Luxferro:
Could you share the OTA URL with us?

I'm still waiting for my 500G order, but that was one of the first things I planned to do; find the url.

edit: NM, found it http://ota.nvidia.com/ota/data/post..._e-full_ota-32494_552.2662.20150527094447.zip
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericvh:
USB/Ethernet funkiness w/OTG plugged in

Also, looks like plugging in OTG turns off the gigabit (maybe the other USB ports too?)
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biothundernxt:
Mine should be here by tomorrow, I am very interested in finding out if simply soldering on a sata connector is possible. SD is always an option, but internal HDD would be nice. There was just no way I was going to pay 100 dollars more for a dinky 500gb 2.5in hybrid drive.

If no one posts detailed teardown pics before I get mine, I will take some pictures.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Batfink33:
Mine arrived today, Jees so near but yet so far!

Firstly, this thing is powerful, it's super smooth and runs the Grid games as well as Play Store games great! I'm using it on a UHD TV and it runs fine. YouTube 4k looks great and videos play well.

The downside is, Android TV is a joke. There's virtually no apps in the Play Store which means you have the hassle of side loading them. The launcher is terrible and it's difficult to get to the apps you've sideloaded.

I'm also having trouble getting my USB HD to be recognised. It seems to mount and then instantly dismount it so I can't access my photos and videos at the moment. I'm trying to try and reformat my HD to see if that works but considering it is working fine on my cheap Chinese Android TV box, it's not good.

Overall there's massive potential with this box and if the devs get their hands on it, I'm sure it will be great.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkOrPn:
Who was even planning on using Android TV? It never even once crossed my mind to get this for Android TV. I fully planned on waiting for root and custom Android ROMs, lol.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Batfink33:
Yeah, true. I'm just shocked at how bad it is.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkOrPn:
Yeah, I read it was awful when I was considering the Nexus Player earlier this year. But someone over at the NP threads made it MUCH BETTER with a simple rooting, and turning it into a full fledged Android device with your own choice of launchers, etc. Once we get that for this device, its all over... will probably be the best streamer for a while I think. I wish I knew what/when Roku was cooking up for 4K certification though. Anyway, this is better and much more inline with my inner geek. lol

WE JUST NEED SOME OFFICIAL FORUMS FOR THIS DEVICE!!!
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spiteful Monkey:
Anyone tore in to the unit with pics yet? I'm curious as to what the sata header looks like. Would be nice if we could fashion an adapter for the 16gb models.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tillaz:
Anyone had any luck swapping mount points now its been rooted ?

I did a similar thing on the china android dongal i had to use SDcard as internal storage, this is needed for 16gb version if you plan on having a load of native games installed at once.. war thunder is near 4gb alone, the likes of boaderland will be bigger

Also, I'm sure the YouTube app only plays at 1080p... anyone know how to check this ? as i see no option to change quality like in the tablet of phone version :(
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biothundernxt:
If and when someone makes a rom for it, it will essentially stop being a shield device. It will no longer be able to game stream or have the shield hub installed, which means no grid streaming.

If all you wanted it for was the horsepower, then more power to ya, but otherwise don't get too excited.

Though if the original shield or the shield tablet are any indication, no one is interested in making custom roms for these devices.

That being said, you can sideload anything you want and it should run fine for the most part.

---------- Post added at 05:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:28 PM ----------

Youtube runs at 4K, but only if the video and your internet connection support it.

Also nVidia has baked in support to move games to the SD card, so you can install a large game and then move it off of the internal storage.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tillaz:
Yeah, but the additional game data is not moved it stays on internal, the .obb files i mean, these are what take up the space as they are around 1.5GB to 4GB +
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lartomar2002:
I believe a rom developer can leave as much of the stock rom as they want and then add or take away what they want. Of course not being a developer I could be wrong but I have flashed a lot of different roms on different devices and what I said seems to hold true.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biothundernxt:
Yes, they can, however the applications for gamestream and grid streaming are signed and will only run on an unmodified rom. I think it is to prevent someone from just ripping the rom out and installing it on whatever they want.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lartomar2002:
Thanks, I tried to use the Thanks button but I have reached my quota for today.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killerskincanoe:
Yea im really hoping this is the case. My unit just arrived a day early from amazon. yay early b-day for me. After some messing around I sideloaded ES file explorer and TWC TV (wasn't in the play store) and the first few versions i tried def didnt' work. Had to get the one from the forum here at XDA. Link to Thread download from post #384 Nova Launcher seems to be pretty weird. def got some issues. Biggest issue driving me crazy at the moment is the right click on my bluetooth mouse doesn't go "back" like it does on my Minix X7... def a learning curve. i have to pick up the damn shield controller to back out of anything that doesn't have an exit button built in. Le Sigh! Seriously hoping the performance for streaming is better than the Minix x7. Mounting my 3tb seagate was a breeze and loaded some 1080p files without a hitch directly in the video app. I'll wait till i get home to try some others. like BSP and MX and mayb VLC. I'm sure i'll have to sideload most of those. The play store is def crippled. I couldn't find anything on there that i wanted. I guess thats what you get for early adopting anything. But i figured there would be more since the nexus player has been out a while now.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Steel01:
Ummm... Do your research first. The hub and game stream work perfect on tablet custom ROMs. The only reason they don't on the portable is lack of supported lollipop OMX libs. As soon as Nvidia drops 5.1 for the portable, I'll have grid and game stream working there too.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Batfink33:
Android TV OS is driving me insane, makes me want to throw my mouse at the TV, the fact you can't right button back click and can't use it to select characters on the keyboard is crazy, the fact you can't download all apps is also crazy. Google should take a look at the way you can navigate round the Chinese boxes, it's much easier. On the hardware front though, this thing wins hands down, it runs apps, games and videos with ease.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killerskincanoe:
I'm right there with you. I'm using a combination of bluetooth keyboard and mouse and controller. The nice TV style controller from nVidia showed up today it is super slick, the middle portion works as a touch slider for the volume... (don't ask how long that took to figure out, and by complete mistake)

So on my bluetooth keyboard the ESC key works as a back button. Also the new controller has a dedicated back button. So unless I have to type i can by pretty well with the nVidia TV style remote and my bluetooth mouse. Here's something that truly drives me nuts however, No Recent Apps. I've got Nova launcher installed (can't install prime, which is annoying) And I can set a widget to a custom action and if i choose Recent Apps, it does nothing. So multitasking is kinda... nada atm.

I'd imagine somewhere there is a file to edit to allow the right click. probably somewhere in the etc folder

Other thoughts: Sling TV is nice, but i'm not sure i'd pay for the service. The TWC TV app does an OK job at streaming TV. HBO GO installs and accepts my login just fine, but nothing will play. shows the HBO GO logo and then ....nothing. Hopefully HBO can work out that issue soon. FINALLY a TV box that will play movies and tv I've purchased from google play IN HD! woot! (seriously frustrating that the Minix x7 wouldn't do this) Still messing around with KODI i wasn't much for a xbmc user before but i might be after using this a bit very fluid and the scrapper's do their job very well.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tillaz:
Is it just me or can you not write to the external sdcard ? Or any other external device, from internal ?
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dunemessiah:
How many requests do we need until we can get our own forum?
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Luxferro:
There's a reason Android TV is the way it is, it's so you have apps that work with just a simple directional remote. If they allowed all apps to install it would ruin the experience they are trying to create; where the majority of apps that are intended for touch screen don't work well on a TV. They don't want to require users to need a keyboard and mouse, as most people don't want to use them on their couch, in front of their TV.

It's the reason why Roku has been successful; because it's simple. Google is going that path.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meber:
Not just you, but I believe it is intended. I tried copying data from Network storage via ES File Explorer to my USB drive and I didn't have permission.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Batfink33:
I can understand that but if you want a fully functioning smart TV box then why can't we for example look at Twitter and Facebook easily, 2 of the most popular apps in the world? My 4 year old smart TV can integrate them fairly seamlessly into its smart functions. If Google are going down that route then force app makers into providing TV apps, the TV app store is sparce at best. Also what harm would it be to make a mouse and keyboard work easily? I'm sure a lot people would use a mouse and keyboard or even keyboard and touchpad rather than a remote. It doesn't make much sense to me. Android to me has always been about choice and the TV OS really lacks much choice, it reminds me of Windows RT.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tillaz:
I am also having a problem where i cant download apps from play store that are over 50mb... just says "waiting for network" this happening to anyone else ?

i pulled the play store from my phone and installed it over the android tv one and it resolves the problem, but its for phone UI, so not reasonable...

i also found from doling this you cant uninstall updates to system apps any more so had to factory reset
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biothundernxt:
Well, I got as far as the last guy in disassembling it, just some plastic clips holding on the back panel. But boy is it heavy; it's got some kind of metal plate on it. I was really surprised at how much the unit weighed.

But once I got the panel off, I got to some torx screws, and none of my torx drivers were small enough... I will try to pick some up at the local hardware store today if I can, but it looks like where the SATA headers would be there is a metal shield soldered to the board... Not a big fan of the metal shielding all over the place on the board, but maybe it helps dissipate heat better.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] npaladin2000:
Don't think of it as Android...think of it as an Android-based Roku. Being Android-based it makes it easier to port regular Android apps over to it (in fact you can use the same ones, helpful if you're into buying apps and games). Downside is that not all Android apps have been ported to that interface yet, including Facebook...and frankly that'd be up to Facebook to do anyway, not Google. And personally I'd rather see more TV and movie apps than Facebook. And more games, of course

There are a bunch of apps and games that DO work, and there's GoogleCast support for some of the others.

By the way, they just massively expanded the TV app store. The problem up until now was that the on-TV store experience was curated and didn't show you all the AndroidTV capable apps. Now it does.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericvh:
Finished tear down

I finished tearing mine down so you don't have to.

https://plus.google.com/photos/1129...ms/6157388634796512001?authkey=CInHo-TSosiwUQ

Maybe slightly higher res here:

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0CGY8gBYaXAgo
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkOrPn:
I wonder if that shield over the sata or sata express area (or m.2) is strictly as a deterrent so to discourage anyone who might be getting the idea of adding their own storage to the device? We need to see images of the 500gb model so we can determine what the true and only differences are. I'd also like to ID some usb connections, if any extra are broke out onto the pcb.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biothundernxt:
If the headers are under the shielding, they would be where the serial numbers are... I really hope that this is the case.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkOrPn:
I doubt the headers are present, but yeah that would be a bonus for sure. I suspect if a shield is covering the area that the headers were never installed onto the 16gb model. It would "hopefully" be 22 unused solder pads hiding under that shield, either surface type or through hole.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericvh:
I didn't take pictures of it, but I pulled back several of the stickers and no obvious headers underneath. There is a picture with the top-side shield removed and you can see its just the memory underneath it. If you look just below the cpu on the cpu mezzanine you'll see where the ball-grid ribbon connector to the peripheral breakout board is. There's actually a second set of pads right next to it without a conncetor. My bet is that the connection to the SATA interface is in that array along with the serial ports and other debug options. Of course, these could be used in other instances of the X1 platforms (for tablet or automotive). It's also possible there's just a different implementation of the peripheral logic board with the SATA hardware on it. There are 22 unpopulated pins on the upper right of the CPU logic board with 4 larger solder points right next to it -- although I wasn't getting power readings from the 4 larger solder points when I probed them. I'll have the 500GB model by the end of the week, will send pics when I get it open.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biothundernxt:
Are we ever going to get our own forum?...
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkOrPn:
This is clearly not the place to ask that question. You need to ask the owners, Admins and moderators that question, the same as the rest of us.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
Ask here.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1660354

Some people have already asked though.

"I'd Totally Hug You, If That Was Something I Did"
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkOrPn:
Yeah, and keep asking every few days... lol I've asked twice myself already in that thread. And once I sent a message to the XDA owners, and no reply either.

I wonder if they dont consider it a real XDA worthy device because of the lack of a built in screen?
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lartomar2002:
I don't think so because Ouya has its own thread and it does not have a built-in screen. You know, it could possibly be that the moderator is sick or on vacation. Trying to give the benefit of the doubt.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkOrPn:
Haha, yeah but that is a very long sickness, I been asking for over 2 months now. lol, thinking of quoting all the requests in the request thread to help make it apparent that its being requested quite often. Instead of one request every other page which may get unoticed.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MadFlava:
The FireTV has its own forum as well.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lartomar2002:
Just did a search on that thread for Nvidia SHIELD ANDROID TV and returned only 39 post. There will probably be more as people start buying more. Many are probably like me and waiting for it to be out for a while before we buy one. I know I want to see what the experts on this forum has to say about it first.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkOrPn:
ONLY 39?

Hasn't there been many many devices over the years that had a dedicated forum before it was even released? I see plenty of devices with dedicated forums I never even heard of. Not seeing one for a NVIDIA device, WITH a flagship Tegra X1 processor seems nuts to me. One, its an amazing processor, and two its one of the worlds largest GPU manufacturers, bar none. This device seems like it should have had a dedicated forum since last March shortly after it was announced. lol

But not everyone see's eye to eye and I recognize that. Is it possible, LOL, that XDA is not aware of this device yet???

P.S> What exact term did you search for to find 39 results?
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lartomar2002:
It's in my post, Nvidia Shield Android TV.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biothundernxt:
I have done all of those. As I am sure most of the other people here have as well.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] npaladin2000:
As does the Nexus Player. Though I notice the Razer Forge TV doesn't.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] takitoes:
Hey guys, thought i might try here before starting a new thread (getting a little crowded in Shield forum huh =/ ).

Just got a new Shield TV Pro and im loving it, I want to sign up for a netflix account but im wondering how easy it is to get a USA netflix running on the shield while im in Canada? I know I can mess around with VPN's ect but is that going to ruin the experience with the rest of the system?

Thanks :)

PS: If anyone wants me to try and describe / explain something about it then go ahead and ask :) I have the Pro + extra controller + stand + remote.