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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] C0derbear:
+2

I've been through the variants of 5.x on my Nexus 7 and it's not been worth it. Maybe 5.1 will play out, too early to tell. I'd despise wasting the hardware resources of the GS5 to make up for bugs, just to pretty up the UI. I'd much rather have a stable base for something that I rely upon for *functionality* that while not life threatening is surely life inconveniencing when it's not working properly.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] abraxo:
What disappoints me so much is that I had an s2 as well as an s3 on att and the dev communities there were amazing. I guess att locked the bl so that idiots don't brick the phone but they really killed off something great.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] bennyboy78:
It's all about the money... they locked it for "corporate users" such as government agancies, businesses etc. Now anyone can buy it without worrying about security for the most part
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Swimguy14:
Y'all should have got the phone through cricket, they are owned by AT&T and they left the boot loader unlocked. I'm surprised more ppl don't know about it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] dk-v1:
+3 on this.

I'm with Verizon and wish I never would've taken the 5.0 update. Phone is now slower, battery doesn't last, laggy, constant "contacts stopped working" message.

Also, once you update you are basically stuck with the issues.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Swimguy14:
Funny how there's always something to complain about [emoji122]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] rg3-save-our-city:
My experience with the Galaxy S5 on ATT has led me to vow not to get stuck in this position again. I got it on black friday for 9 cents on black friday on a contract, but never again. Nexus 6 or HTC in the future, I want a wide variety of ROMS to choose from and fast updates!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] meissen:
I swore up and down I would do the same when I had the Galaxy S3. Somehow or another I bought the S5 and forgot. Now I'm kicking myself.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] LeKtRiCzzz:
I definitely won't be doing the att route come next year
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] 122ninjas:
Man, they even updated the Note 4 already
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Swimguy14:
Cccrrrriiiccckkkeeetttttt
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] QuillOmega0:
I'd love to replace it with something that has an unlocked BL. Preferably Nexus the only issue is that not having MicroSD is a deal breaker for me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Swimguy14:
Sell it and get the s5 from cricket!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] AlexusJ:
Cricket Wireless is even worse, though - they have no VoLTE/"HD voice", no Wi-Fi calling and no plans to enable these features on their network in any city any time soon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MattC867:
Better option is to sell for a G900T (T-mobile) or G900M (International Americas). I sold my G900A and bought a G900M. Works great on ATTs network couldn't be happier.

For what it's worth, stock TW lollipop is honestly not much different. I feel like the camera app opens faster and that's pretty much it. I completely understand the feeling of being left out (felt it too before I switched) but it's really just fuss over a version number in the settings app IMO. I'm still running stock firmware just waiting for a CM12 build with stable bluetooth and better Xposed support. My point is, from someone who made the switch for 5.0 and an unlocked bootloader, my personal opinion looking back is that you're not missing much right now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] malickie:
True there is not much in the way of UI change (Have the update on my Note 3) but it does iron out most if not all of the issues that where present in 4.4.4 that AT&T "vigorously tested". The Main issue I am talking about here is how the home button unless you press it just right opens up google all the time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] AlexusJ:
I also don't really care about Lollipop's new GUI or few extra features - all I really want is fixes for all the bugs brought by horrible 4.4.4 update, like "Home" button bug or "Check your battery cover" pop-up spam (if you're using official battery cover with built-in wireless charging) which didn't happen with 4.4.2 versions...

It's really sad seeing how such huge company as AT&T with such good wireless network coverage is absolutely unable to hire competent software developers and do proper QA job before releasing new software updates... Hell, they could've done all QA work for free - just release "Beta" versions of future software updates officially, on an official "Beta" site for everyone who is willing to test them out and report all of the bugs. Just ask the beta testers to agree to give up the factory warranty before downloading and flashing beta updates, that's all.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] pre4speed:
Verizon is now (re) rolling out 5.0 for S5.

http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...ollipop-update-for-the-samsung-galaxy-s5.html
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Swimguy14:
Cricket wireless cannot possibly be worse, not by any stretch of the imagination.

They are owned by AT&T, they run off AT&T towers, and monthly rates are lower than any other mnvo in the US by a long shot.

Hd voice is a gimmick and really so is wifi calling, I cannot imagine many people are often in an area without cell coverage but with wifi. Even then, there are simple voip solutions (free) like Google voice.

Did I mention (I did) that the boot loader is unlocked.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] AlexusJ:
You sound like a paid Cricket promoter, dude ;) VoLTE (or "HD voice", as some companies label it) is definitely NOT a "gimmick" - there's a noticeable difference in voice quality due to higher bitrates used. It's as good as, for example, using Viber or Skype on your smartphone over Wi-Fi. Only much more convenient since you don't have to waste storage space and your phone's battery life on third-party apps (which might introduce more bugs or break existing features with each update) or force someone else to use same proprietary app. I've tested it with T-Mobile's phones (when calling from one of their smartphones to another on same network), the difference is very noticeable where LTE signal is available. Unfortunately T-Mobile's LTE coverage is extremely bad (their coverage maps do not even provide accurate information), especially inside the buildings, otherwise I would've gladly switched long time ago :-/

And YES, calling over Wi-Fi (again, without forcing anyone else to download some proprietary apps) is also a useful feature - I know many spots where even AT&T's signal is extremely weak and affects call's reliability and phone's battery life in a very negative way. Spots where people have to spend several hours per day to do business. Sure, you can put a $500 cellular signal booster from companies like weBoost/Wilson Electronics in those locations, but using a good quality Wi-Fi access point (and routing all calls through it) is much, much cheaper and convenient, even compared to AT&T's own microcell.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] CAG-man:
Just because Cricket is owned and runs on AT&T towers does not mean ths service is the same. I have full bars in my apartment. A new neighbor moved in with Cricket and no service was available.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Swimguy14:
Moved in to your apartment?

Same phone as you?

You spent lots of time with your new friend to compare notes on your respective signal strengths relative to your position in the building at various points throughout the day?

[emoji41]

Thank you for the solid info

Getting paid to post here? Where can I sign up? ...would be so awesome[emoji60]

'hdvoice' is (currently, still just) a gimmick because http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...voice-criticism-its-just-marketing/2014-02-28

I'm Sorry you have t mobile,I used to have them too but ditched it because their coverage area blows. It sounds like you're understandably butthurt about having crap-mobile. With that in mind I'm puzzled that you were playing captain save-a-ho for AT&T who isn't even your carrier, not to mention that AT&T doesn't even offer wifi calling.

Are you a paid promoter for AT&T??[emoji33] [emoji33] just messing w/ya , take care
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] CAG-man:
Info is solid as a rock considering the location where I am and the availability of only one tower to service this address. Kind of nice living out in the middle of nowhere to determine this. Will service vary by location yes. More populated areas can have multiple towers servicing 1 address. However, the theory is that the same service should be provided to all. A strong signal such as the one at my address is available to all devices that could potentially connect to the tower. A weak signal is not picked up by devices with poor reception. There are apps to give signal information, will map out all towers nearby, their gps coordinates and so on. I barely know my new neighbor. They moved in to the apartment next door, which can only be served by the same single tower. After a week, they knocked on my door asking who my carrier was and if I had service. I have ATT with full bars, they had cricket with no bars. End of story. :o Doesn't get any simpler than that. ATT can provide a less than stellar service for Cricket, it may not be the case in all areas but it cannot be assumed for all areas either. :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] malickie:
Quite a lot also depends on the device in use. If they have a really bad antenna inside said phone it would have issues regardless. Now say they had the exact same phone with a bad build again same thing would happen. If the phone is a sub standard phone again bad reception. Can't boil it down to carrier all the time. I mean I have had times where I had top end phone and friend of mine has a lower end phone on same network same spot in the house with completely different reception so yea.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] czechpunk:
What the actual ****...

http://www.androidcentral.com/att-htc-one-m7-snag-android-50-lollipop-starting-tomorrow-march-31
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] malickie:
WoW, so the HTC M7 is getting Lollipop before ours, real nice.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] QuillOmega0:
So I did some estimates.

Verizon released 4.4.4 for the S5: 9/9/14

AT&T released 4.4.4 for the S5: 2/3/15

Verizon released 5.0 for the S5 2/3/15 (rerelease 3/29/15 for bug patching)

So AT&T is lagging about 5-6 months behind other providers.

I can assume we'll see it in the Fall of this year.

Certainly the last provider phone I'll be getting, as well as the last Samsung

Not having a MIcroSD is a dealbreaker...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Nucleartx:
I'm thinking we will get 5.0 after the S6 is released to increase sales of that device. Just a possibility...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jtaylor991:
AT&T does not offer nor has announced plans for any of those things...

(AFAIK, I'm not infallible)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] C0derbear:
Just for sharing ... ;^0

http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB425890&cv=820

http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/features/hd-voice.html
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] devilsadidas:
Yes it is sad. VZW used to always be the last now AT&T charges more for phones and updates way slower.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ButtonBoy:
If you think our phones are bad- you should see what AT&T did to my wife's Galaxy S4 mini. That is truly an orphaned device. Even XDA won't give it a voice.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mwrobe1:
You know, I read a WHOLE lot about the Galaxy S5 and observed friends and acquaintances that had a GS5, until I finally pulled the trigger on a FREE GS5 thru an online-only deal (i.e. starting or continuing a 2-year commitment w/AT&T)

I think the Lollipop update "issue" is really limited for people who cannot (or will not) factory reset the phone after the Lollipop update. Yeah I know...we really shouldn't have to factory reset our devices after a firmware update....but the fact is...that IS the fix for any issues post 5.0 update IMO.

I've gotten great performance and battery life on 5.0 on my GS5....and while I'm probably in the minority here....I actually LIKE Lollipop versioned TouchWiz on the device. Most of the really intrusive bloatware CAN be disabled without root; and that being said...about the only reason I would want to root right now is for Wanam, Amplify, and XGELS. Yet for now the user experience (at least for me) without root is decent enough that I don't feel like I NEED it. That was NOT the case with the GS3 or GS4, which I feel were killed by AT&T and were close to unusable without root/debloating/modding/Xposing.

Anyway thats my $0.02...YMMV.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Swimguy14:
Xposed doesn't work on lollipop I'm guessing you know this but in case you don't
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] nutt_case:
Lol....we knew:sly:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mwrobe1:
Yeah...I knew. Not exactly "doesn't work" as much as it is not fully supported. :cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] C0derbear:
Probably answers yourself.

Complex apps, built to high quality, take time to test, to iterate multiple times with large test suites and low tolerance for idiosyncrasies.

If at managed to put out a solid update they deserve some credit to taking the time and paying attention to quality.

Particularly in view of how many systems have had lollipop teething issues.

Note: not a fan boo, just another software geek with a lot of hours on a keyboard.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Dark_Vortex:
All the frustration in waiting for Lollipop to drop for our AT&T S5s has paid off in a great way. While S5 owners on other carriers are complaining about lag, memory leaks, and crashes we are enjoying a smooth, fast, lag-free experience. I honestly would defy anyone to use my phone and try to say that it is bloated with a straight face.

AT&T and Samsung both have their problems, but they did a really solid release for us AT&T S5 owners. My only gripe is I wish Samsung would have went with a 'Material Dark' theme for the sake of the AMOLED screen. I miss being able to use Xposed like I did on Kit Kat, but there's no way I'd revert to 4.4.4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] wamsille:
Playing around with the GS5 I don't think for a minute that AT&T crippled this device. If anything, we are looking at subtle differences in hardware responsiveness or constant flashing of ROMs prior to reverting to stock to send in for a warranty replacement.

Android as an OS is fairly responsive for the most part. When you pair it with respectable hardware and don't bog it down with too many customizations it ends up being an enjoyable user experience. I think TouchWiz overall is feature heavy on the GS5. I would have appreciated a more muted interface, but knowing all the sensors packed into this phone for the sake of adding sensors and features I can understand the purpose if not so much the need for them.

The one thing I don't like with carrier branded devices is that they are riddled with pre-installed applications that overall serve no purpose for the majority of buyers. It's just the carriers cutting in and trying to take advantage of additional revenue streams by monetizing features many companies now offer for free. However, because it's under the umbrella of AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile it is 'premium'. Emphasis on premium.

If there was a reduction of pre-loaded applications or an in-house solution to uninstall these applications from the beginning there would be noticeable performance gains and reclaimed space. I don't care if the phone costs $50 more to cover the less of revenue. They weren't making it up really anyway.

I took all the updates on my GS5 not realizing I was losing the ability to root. I was just giddy to get a new toy to play with. I had been using an iPhone 6 since January and this was my first shot at Android in some time. If I had kept KitKat and was able to root, I would have installed CM. I don't despise Samsung for TouchWiz, or HTC for Sense. What I ultimately find displeasure in is their customizations result in very disorganized updates. Various carriers may prefer one phone make/model over another as well, leading to preferential treatment towards one company and less friendly terms with another. Strategically AT&T may be in bed with Apple more to cater to the iPhone, but on the Android front they may favor Motorola or LG based on margins. Who knows, I can only speculate.

Bottom-line, updates come when they are 'ready'. Our expectation is that they are complete and work. What we often fail to understand is our expectations are not generally in line with those of the companies providing the updates. When they work out well, it's great. When they don't, you can blame the Samsungs and AT&T's of this world but complaining that "x" feature was depreciated in favor of "y" is a tad unfair when the motivating factor is not known. (Hint: monetary) If you show me a receipt that your phone is free and clear and not subsidized / financed (any longer) and you should have full access to all features and updates early - go ahead and complain. But when AT&T or Verizon are footing a portion of the bill to you first and collecting from you later, chill.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
You wouldn't have been able to install CM or any custom kernels for that matter on your G900A even with root due to the locked bootloader you would've only been able to flash T/W ROMS
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] wamsille:
So no CM and only TouchWiz? Well, that bites but this was pretty much something you had to deal with on the LG G3. I'm not too overly concerned with the sad state of affairs right now regarding the Galaxy S5 and it's ability to be modified. Much to my chagrin, the Galaxy S5 began acting up and I was left with limited choices as to how to handle the situation. AT&T thankfully re-flashed the 5.0 update but I would have loved getting KitKat back. Just debloating the phone would be better than nothing at all. Running stock with just about everything I could disable, disabled. Nova launcher and the Lollipop theme. At least Samsung adopted the material design in a way that unless you were using a Nexus side by side it wouldn't seem out of place.

I can report massive force closures, endless boot loops, etc. If you can, I highly suggest getting a reflash from AT&T along with a factory data reset and clearing the cache after you verify the phone 'works'. I attributed most of my issues to Accuweather, since removing it I don't have problems with Play Services shutting down. I cannot stand looking at ads in Weatherbug.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
I still have my S5 updated to 5.0 but I've moved on to the OnePlusOne the last few months or so and I'm not looking back
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Swimguy14:
Saying something isn't fully supported implies that it is at least partially or in some way , to some degree, supported.

While it's no longer the case, at the time of that post, xposed was absolutely and completely 100% nonfunctional on (touch wiz) lollipop roms.

If you're unsure, read the developers take on the subject in his xposed thread.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] OG!:
Well, look at Verizon. They updated their s5 to 5.0 and they had huge amounts of issues and I mean HUGE.

AT&T gave us the same update but we had no issues whatsoever. I think it is better to have the more stable version than being on bleeding edge.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] trinity4200:
Probably a little late to respond to this post, but damn, I wish I was still on KitKat! Lollipop comes with some nice little "fluff-features" but honestly, I would rather take a TWRP Recovery than a free Uber ride anyday!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] abraxo:
Looking back, I suppose att did the right thing after all by releasing a stable lollipop at the cost of time. I didn't even bother to flash anything, just root so far, it's that stable! That being said, I've had every Sammy flagship on big blue since the GS2 and, while I do get that bootlocking the phone saves them a lot of hassle with people filing useless insurance claims, it's a shame that they let the once great dev community wither like it did
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] lowspeed:
I need to restart my phone every day, it becomes weird if i dont.

Unfortunately i didn't have a choice and I got the 5.0 not 4.4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mwrobe1:
IMO, after a few more weeks of using this device on Lollipop about the only thing that's missing is a theme manager similar to the S6, but I could live without it. Hopefully we get at least one more update to this device that includes just that.

Coming from an S3...this device has much better battery life. GREAT battery life if you toggle location services on only when you need it. Root would be nice for TiBu and Wanam...but I'm not totally annoyed by it. Some of the minor bugs I've seen in stock TW roms have been fixed as well...certain camera settings not sticking, flaky performance when casting the screen to wifi device, having to reboot the device after 24-48 hours to fix instability, FB and FB Messenger can run and exist on the device without totally killing the battery, the USB/MTP wakelock continuing after unplugging the device is fixed, sound issues when listening to media on headphones and getting certain notifications is fixed, and stock tethering and allowed devices work as expected. I'm also impressed by the wifi strength, range and power consumption when compared to the S3.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Astroballs:
Any root method yet?

I'm looking around the posts, and looks like if I didn't root before getting lollipop, I'm out of luck.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] PinkPower:
While I want the option to upgrade...

While I want the option to upgrade, I have a Nexus 5 that has never worked right on any 5.0+ Lollipop--mostly wi-fi issues. I have done clean install, factory reset, and set up as new phone each time. I am browsing this forum because I am thinking of picking up an s5 until I can decide what to get. Very disappointed with what AT&T and Samsung could have done with s6 Active but didn't. I will miss unlocked bootloader though because it was so easy to downgrade.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Clselfridge:
S6 active isn't announced yet is it? Haven't seen it yet...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] PinkPower:
Active 6 is not officially announced yet that I know of...

The Active s6 is not officially announced yet that I know of. However, Samsung posted information on it about their website and quickly pulled it. You may be able to get the .pdf manual or cached site still by googling. I believe it is coming this month :). A waterproof s6 in a rugged case is still an improvement, but Samsung and AT&T could have made this a slam dunk sale for many by adding back in some removed "active features" for those of us who wanted the s6 but originally passed on it waiting for the s6 Active, a more functional instead of fashionable, version. In other words features like a larger battery would make the phone thicker but last longer for those who work outside for long hours. I am waiting to see what the announced specs are, a tear down, and to see if I can work around some of the issues. I may go with another phone now too.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Clselfridge:
Ah yes. I saw the leaked page. But everything listed matched the s6 exactly. Including fingerprint scanner so I chalked it up to a placeholder and not actual specs. Guess I'm a wishful thinker. Lol. I went from the HTC One m7 to a used GS5 last week so just really seeing the Galaxy for the first time here... Hoping for a waterproof large battery phone when I am in the market for my next cheap upgrade.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] trinity4200:
Sorry friend

I am finding out the same thing. Unfortunately, because I am a Gemini and don't believe anything until I try it myself, I am now trying to unbrick my phone. So...good luck with your lollipop, friend. I am on the hunt for some OC4 stock crap. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] lowspeed:
Anyone has an issue that google nav dies if you have many things running?

I've had navigation quit on me on long rides, passenger playing with the phone running games, youtube etc.