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[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biothundernxt:
If you're adventurous enough, pictures of the inside would be nice. One of the panels just pops off with a spudger or a guitar pick.

I have the 16gb version, and was hoping to upgrade the internal capacity, however it seems as though there are no sata headers, so it would be nice to see where things differ.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] takitoes:
Hey bud, I had a look inside and took some photos (Just uploading now). Best quality i can do with my phone im sorry!

As you said, getting the back pannel off is easy, just run something thin and plastic around the edge of the side cover that doesnt have the nvidia logo and pop the small clips out.

Once inside, its a pretty manageable layout, with a regular SATA hdd (seagate) being held down by 1 small shaped bit of metal and a torx screw + a few bits of tape.

There is a ribbon cable running from the SATA end of HDD just off to the right hand side which im guessing is all you will need to add your own drive.

The harddrive has 2 thin bits of rubber on the sides to handle vibrations and hold it in place nicely.

Lastly there are 2 of other cables routed over the HDD and plugged in above where the ribbon cable goes in, they are just held down with the tape and im assuming they have nothing to do with the HDD and will probably be there on the 16gb model.

This is probably all you will need me to add own HDD me thinks (sorry it looks right but im not sure if the pins differ from brand to brand ect):

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Repl...Samsung-Q45-Q70-Brand-New-Best/498798443.html

Just make sure its long enough to run 90 deg right from the SATA around 1cm longer then the edge of the HDD.

Hope that helps :)

Links for photos:

http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp65/takitoes/IMAG0036.jpg

http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp65/takitoes/IMAG0039.jpg

http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp65/takitoes/IMAG0040.jpg

http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp65/takitoes/IMAG0037.jpg
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkOrPn:
Is it too late to ask for better pics of that ribbon cable on pcb end, and the white connector it attaches to please? I would like to contact my source to see if they can get them. Thanks
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkOrPn:
According to your pictures I can't really tell if the SATA headers solder pads are exposed or not. If they are exposed it might be possible to get a compliant surface mount connector, such as what Nvidia is using soldered on at home. I could do it all day, but not keen on having to scrape off pcb coating, although still doable.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biothundernxt:
Here's a zoomed in version of one of the pictures I took of my 16GB model with the area circled.

Ill open it up later today and take more detailed shots.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkOrPn:
At least we know now that it is not the exact same PCB rev. If you get the 16gb version with intentions of modding it, it will most definitely be some work, and a slight cost. If you want more storage I suggest to most to just get the Pro version, so it already has the SATA header. I can do the mod professionally myself, but for most people it wont be worth it unless you already have the 16gb and wanted the larger version or you want a 1TB or more storage, lol, and of course you are good with a iron. I was hoping it was the same PCB and you just needed to add your own SATA drive WITHOUT the need for a header being soldered on, or needing the ribbon cable adapter.

In any case, from what I see so far its still a very simple modification. :good:
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biothundernxt:
Here are some more freshly taken zoomed in photos>

The solder seems to be exposed and ready to accept a header, though those are some tiny solder points, and a bit beyond my tools. I don't have a precision soldering iron for tiny connections like that.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkOrPn:
Thanks for the photos. I have the tools and a fully stocked electronics tech station for that job.... Well good enough anyway. lol
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rolldog:
I would like to see someone root this device and make it operate at its full potential. The market already lacks 4K content, and TV manufacturers have been signing exclusivity agreements to provide 4K content to buyers of their TVs, but no one has access to all available 4K content, whether its H.265 or VP9. Since this console runs all formats, I'd like to see someone develop something allowing owners of the Nvidia console to side load apps which are all capable of running 4K content. You would think that since royalties on H.265 quadrupled what they were for H.264 that more manufacturers would embrace the open-source VP9 compression which would be a win-win for manufacturers and consumers alike. Since this device supports all formats and compressions, someone could possibly come up with a way to side load and run all these applications that the TV manufacturers have signed exclusivity deals with. With limited content already floating around, and then manufacturers signing exclusivity agreements, no one will have access to all of the available content out there. If someone could develop this console to run content from all of these different sources, which are already available on Android, it could help shape the future of delivering 4K content to everyone, regardless of whose TV they purchased.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkOrPn:
I thought it was already rooted, and already had TWRP working? I also heard it already had a custom ROM.

http://xdaforums.com/nvidia-shield/general/shield-android-tv-rooted-t3123197
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] takitoes:
Too late for now, ill have another crack later after work if you need?
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkOrPn:
Actually do not worry about it bud, you already done more then enough. Just enjoy the device, lol. Besides, I am looking for high quality macro pics so I can for sure ID the connector and cable being used. In fact, I can wait until I purchase it myself later this month and then take the pics myself. I hope its a common type connector and easily sourced.

It looks to be a 20 pin connector too. I guess a few ground pins must be relocated to the edge of the connector or not needed at all. SATA is a 22 pin setup, including the power pins. So, a few pins must be shared I think. I wont know until I tear mine apart and ID each pad.

Oh wow I just found this Tear Down of the 16gb device.

http://broo2.blogspot.com/2015/06/nvidia-shield-android-tv-tear-down.html
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] takitoes:
Let me know if you change your mind :) Its not hard to get apart, unfortunately im not in my usual residence so i dont have a good camera with me :(
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EniGmA1987:
My Shield Pro 500GB will be here tomorrow. I can open it up and take 4K resolution pictures of the internals to get great details of the inside. I know one of my first plans is to replace the 500GB HDD with a 500GB SSD. I am going to try and take the HDD out and plug it into a PC, then clone the drive 1:1 onto the SSD. I normally dont like cloning from hard to solid, but I want to make sure everything is preserved exactly and any special keys are left intact from the official hardware. Just in case we need them later for various things or the image can help with development in some way.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkOrPn:
4k resolution would be great, especially of the HDD SATA adapter and the end of its ribbon, and the connector itself on the PCB. Thanks to everyone who has been willing to provide internal pics.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biothundernxt:
So we _kind of_ have our own forum now...

But not really.

Someone added it to the list of devices on XDA, and clicking it takes you to a page about the device and a collection of forum posts from various areas, but posting a new thread actually posts it in android general.

*shrugs*

Thanks mods, it is a step in the right direction I guess, but a lot of the threads are missing from that page that are relevant.

Perhaps we will get an actual forum soon.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkOrPn:
Yeah not really. Seems like who ever creates these forums sections at XDA does not see this device as XDA worthy, or does not like NVIDIA or the Tegra line of ARM processors. Yesterday I went on the hunt for a Forum hosting service, but the prices are a little too high for a decent service. I wanted to create a Dedicated Development Website Forum for this device alone, since it deserves it, and XDA seems to hate it. Oh well...
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerflash:
I decided against the 500gb model because app to sd setting is really all i would ever need then hookup and external drive for any extra video storage.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evilh007:
Netflix APK

hey everyone,

i bought myself the shield tv from amazon US (I live in Germany). Still trying to work around the area restrictions on game streaming but I noticed that I don't have netflix on my device altough it is available in germany. Does someone have an APK for it? The usual one does not work (no navigation with controller, does not appear on home screen). That would really help me out. Thanks
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerflash:
This is the one for android TV boxes. Try it out.

http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/netfli...ndroid-tv-2-2-build-636-android-apk-download/
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evilh007:
Hi,

thanks! An Firmware update helped in the Netflix matter. Still working on a game streaming in europe workaround. A VPN service seems to do no good - getting a "service not available in your location" message.

Any ideas?
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerflash:
It is still using your location somehow. Try a location spoofing app
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Batfink33:
That's strange, it all works fine in the UK. Why would there be a restriction on Netflix in Germany?
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biothundernxt:
So, posting a new thread in our new "forum" goes and posts it in general, and does now show up on that page...

For example, I posted this yesterday:

http://xdaforums.com/android/development/sata-header-16gb-model-internal-hdd-t3137735

From the page for the shield TV, however, even though it is tagged as shield-tv, it does not show up on the shield tv page...

Can we please just get our own actual forum now?...
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xaudiblex:
Any update on your attempt to clone the drive? I am tempted to purchase one but I would much rather have an SSD in it for reliability purposes.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jainanshal:
Hey where did you get it from & got it shipped or crossed the border to pick up yourself ?

Also, if you could provide a breakdown of your total cost getting it in Canada?

Were you able to figure out the USA Netflix thing? I can help you with that if not.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] takitoes:
I got it direct from Nvidia and paid in USD pretty much exactly what it says on their site. Normally I shop around but I really wannted this one so I splashed and spent up :P

http://shield.nvidia.com/store

Shield Pro bundle $299 + Stand $29.99 + Extra controller $59.99 + Remote $49.99 + Express postage $45.99 + Tax $24.30 (Alberta) = $510.25 USD :)

Hope that helps a bit :)

I havnt looked back into the netflix thing as of yet, at the moment im using a friend Canadian one. Would love to get USA netflix running without messing up the rest of the system if you have an idea? Thanks :)
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EniGmA1987:
Im really busy so the project is going to have to wait till the middle of July :(
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jainanshal:
You my friend, certainly did not hold back on this one :)

I do want one of these as an upgrade to my Amazon Fire TV but the price is a deterrent considering I hardly (read never) game.

Ok regarding Netflix, you'll have to subscribe to a US DNS service. Many available in market, starting from as low as $2/month. Most also offer a free trial for a week or so where you can test their service before subscribing. Some of the providers are;

https://adfreetime.com/

https://dns4me.net/

https://www2.unotelly.com/home

Setup is simple, you just change the DNS in the device from which you want to access Netflix (or in your Router and use any device on your home network), DNS will be provided to you by the provider you decide to go with. These DNS providers not just support Netflix but many other services from US and other places around the world. For example, you just don't have option to see US netflix but also from other countries like UK and more, just change the Netflix country on the settings page of the DNS provider and you're now a subscriber from that country for Netflix purposes... similarly for other services.

You always have the option to select for what service you want the DNS re-direction and to which country (as long as it is supported by the provider) so only that is affected and rest of your traffic remains untouched. Also, since this is just DNS re-direction, there's no speed loss or data caps as well as in the case of VPN.

One thing I won't indulge myself is the legality of this whole thing, just so you know, President of Bell Media considers this as "stealing" US Netflix (like anyone cares what she thinks!). As far as I know, Netflix hasn't raised any concerns over this until now.

Hope this helps!
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] takitoes:
Thankyou very much sir :)

As per the cost, i definitely didn't hold back however in hind site:

The pro console really isnt that needed unless you plan on playing a lot of games. Im not going to touch 500gb anytime soon and an SD card would probably keep me going for a long while yet.

The second controller, and stand are luxuries and the remote is a 50/50.

I really prefer using it, but the controller is still really easy to use and really not that different to have lying near the tv remote ect.

I dont regret for a second, i feel like it you have a decent PC / network setup to feed this thing with content, once its setup you won't ever look back. The gaming is a huge plus for me, but the system itself is pretty fecking amazing to use. I definitely feel like Nvidia is going to be ontop of adding features and extras quickly as well, its definitely been the case with their other shield devices (used to own the portable and the tablet).

Thanks heaps for the netflix help :) Should be another step to having the perfect media centre for me :)
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jainanshal:
No problem mate!

How do you think is the media experience on this thing considering very limited apps for Android TV, not that I need need many apps, but its always good to have options. Actually I will mainly use it for Netflix & Kodi.

I definitely do not need the pro, the basic one is enough for me neither any other accessories as I already use Harmony smart control. Since I won't be gaming, don't even need the controller. Stand looks nice, but not $30 nice. I think I read somewhere its going to be on Play store as well, may be will wait for that.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] takitoes:
So far media playback has been nothing short of simple and smooth. Took me a little while to get the PC setup so all my content is easy to push/pull to the shield and all the apps work together nicely but now its just so easy to pickup content from my pc or the web in seconds and the system keeps the whole experiance running very smoothly. Only issues I run into are with Gamestream and Chromecast and im pretty sure they are more related to my router then the shield.

Honestly if you want the really smooth experience and extra power it might be worth it, otherwise i think you probably isn't without the gaming giving you some benefit. I havnt used a fire tv but it cant be that much slower? what advantages are you gaining?

On the other hand I also can hardly think of many ways to pickup online content that arn't possible for the shield? There are a few that seem to be in the works but lots of content providers seem to be moving pretty quickly towards android TV and I doubt there is much that won't be available after a month or 2 of settle time.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jainanshal:
Hey thanks for the quick round-up, appreciate it!

It's actually less about Shield TV but more about what else? Our main usage is Netflix and Kodi (both equally important), rest all like Youtube etc occasionally. Now the problem is that there are not many devices that could do both of these equally well. Kodi doesn't work with most mainstream streaming devices and those chinese devices cannot do Netflix in HD.

Unless there is something I'm missing, Fire TV & Nexus player are the only 2 options. Fire TV is not bad but it isn't always able to handle Kodi flawlessly specially if you install a bit demanding skin. So after using it for about an year now, looking for an upgrade and there's nothing else!
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnciaccio:
I have owned several Android boxes (logitech, ouya, nexus player) and believe Android tv as a platform seems to be doing better then the previous attempt by Google. It looks like google is getting it right now. Plus there is actual development going on here where in the past manufacturers produced a product and then dropped the ball on development. And now the hardware is here by the top manufacturer.

So far the nexus player and now the SATV has blown me away. Sure some tweaking is needed But it really is a good experience. My only complaint about all these is the lack of a dedicated audio out port(s).
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lartomar2002:
What is SATV?
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnciaccio:
Shield Android TV = SATV
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] takitoes:
I havnt used XBMC / Kodi alot on this thing, but it runs buttery smooth and im sure all the functionality is there or close to, that team definitely knows what they are doing when it comes to quick ports of their software.,
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnciaccio:
Kodi runs fine on nexus player. Should be great on Shield.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lartomar2002:
How is the 5.1 surround sound on this console when streaming internet video using Kodi? I have been using Ouya and SPMC'S fork of Kodi but pass through does not work for me no matter what settings I choose. Not knowing how well the 5.1 surround sound pass through works is the only thing holding me back from buying it.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnciaccio:
There is a thead about it in the official forum.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lartomar2002:
Where is the official forum? Do you have a link, please?
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnciaccio:
I dn not think it is allowed to link other forums. Just google geforce forums.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] angel.martinezsanchez.92:
Ok
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] repdetect2:
Would this be the general "catch all" thread for anything related to Nvidia Android TV?
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lartomar2002:
So it would seem until the XDA admin deems it necessary to give it a real forum. Wish I knew why they don't and they are not saying. Very strange. :p
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigall123:
Kodi

Well i have the 16gb 1 and i have to say, apart from the lay back ui on this thing witch i hate. Kodi works a dream on this thing & YouTube hd is stunning. I have never tried the streaming of games from my pc though.
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mezot:
Got my device yesterday and I can say streaming games (both from my pc and nvidia hub ) worked flawless. But as I said, Ive had my device for less then 24 hours so I cant really say anything yet ;)
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kajman:
tell me guys, when not using uhd services, resolution is 1080p or all the time it is 4k (desktop, browser and so on)?

Are there any games on 4k already? and how would you compare game graphics to xbox 360?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devilsdouble:
I don't know why I am asking this, but maybe because I can't use LP because Xposed isn't compatible with it yet, I mean for TW based ROMs that is, or something else, but I see that a lot of people are using AOSP based ROMs and even happy about it. I personally like stock Android too but for Note series they have always been a mess and either this or that never really did work fine, and I have used that Cyanogen thingy before, the experience was nothing short of awful!

So I am creating this topic, asking to the TW users only, who like TW, has any one of you moved to AOSP based ROMs and finding it good, or better than TW to put it simply? Does everything work, I mean S-Pen related features and all that?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] themate1987:
I personally like TW interface. I'm currently using Lollipop TW and i find it really stable. I have also tried teamsek lollipop AOSP. It is stable but it lacks some samsung features like S-pen, S-cover and all those small sensor (smart screen, air view) options that TW software has. The latest version of AOSP that i have tried was teamsek 5.2 i think and it was really nice but battery life wasn't really good. But it might have changed in recent versions. So i suggest that you make nandroid backup and try AOSP and if you don't like it just restore your previous firmware.

Also there are apps on playstore that can enable some S-pen features on AOSP.

Hope i helped
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Journyman16:
I kinda qualify - I use and like Alliance ROM LP version - 7.1 currently. It is highly configurable and fast. The 'kinda' is because I normally swap to Nova Launcher as soon as a ROM is installed.

But I also use, more as time goes on, Temasek's LP CM12 build - currently 8.4 just installed. I'm liking it more and more as I use it - no Samsung bloat and the S-Pen beta from XDA does all I want with my pen and it's being upgraded pretty regularly as more features are added. I can't think of anything a stock-based ROM has that I don't have in Android 5 from Temasek.

Now if only there was a dual boot kernel around for the Note 3. :D
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devilsdouble:
So with this ROM (Temasek) there is no problem you notice which isn't there on TW ROMs? Like poor call volume, crappy camera photo quality, the display going yellowish etc.? Basic functions, or the problems with basic functions scare me most.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenny1991:
Link to the s pen beta? ?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Journyman16:
You can try the one at http://xdaforums.com/android/software/app-app-samsung-devices-provided-stylus-t3000448 - first post has email to join the beta program.

Also there is CM S Pen Addon from Play - requires root.

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None that I have had. There was an issue with the AOSP cam I think where the video didn't work but changing the setting from 4K back to 1080 fixed that. No display issues I even seen mentioned - that was a problem with early AMOLED screens I thought...?

Only issue I have had is my custom ringtone and notify mp3's keep reverting back to default ones on reboot. Most annoying but hardly a deal-killer. :D

It's fast and smooth and Temasek and his crew are responsive to issues and good at their work.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vishnu pv:
Can someone pls upload the SecWallpaperChooser.apk here pls...? I really want it. Thanks