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[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pleske:
M9 for me but it was a lot closer choice this year.

M9

M9 should have improved battery life over the S6 because it has a higher capacity battery and a lower res display

I prefer Soft Buttons over hardware buttons because they hide in fullscreen and are customizable

I prefer the look of Sense over TW

I prefer the dotview case over Samsung's offering

I require a micro SD slot

S6

I prefer the Camera on the S6

It looks like S6 will be faster, if benchmarks are correct
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 8Anaconda8:
Exactly !! I'm confused too, why Samsung coming out with a lot of phones ????
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sachinfan:
S6 all the way.........If Samsung had stuck with a incremental update like HTC, then i would have gone for the m9.

But with S6, Samsung has answered the only criticism i had with them and plus they have improved in every department which matters.

Anyways people always spoke about HTC's design more than anything else.................with S6 has scored a equalizer if the not the decisive winner in the extra time.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RichJo86:
Now I'm using the aged Nexus 4. Besides the battery life I still really like the device.

Next up will be the M9. I like both the S6 and the M9. Both have features that I like. What made me choose the M9?

- BoomSound

- Bigger battery (hopefully battery life will reflect this)

- Sense (although Samsung's interface looks a lot better now than before, it is still a bit too much for me, color wise)

- microSD (Lollipop should handle external better AFAIK)

S6:

- S-AMOLED (great but why the sky high resolution, is it really noticeable?)

- Wireless charging (nice, also got it on my N4.)

- Camera (presumably a bit better than the M9)

Overall I thought the HTC was the better buy for me.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kirdroid:
I'll probably end up getting both of them, but S6 looks generally more promising than previous Samsung phones. Every year I buy the Samsung flagship and sell it within a month or so because of touchwiz begin intolerable. Always have loved the One series and M8 was my daily driver for majority of last year. I think M9 will probably not disappoint me, S6 on the other hand depends on how touchwiz performs after couple of weeks. If there is no lag or stutters S6 will be a great phone.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eosman:
I have the M7 and Im leaning towards the M9. I love the Boomsound speakers and the M9 has a 2840mah battery vs the S6 Edge 2,600mah battery. With the larger battery and the 1080p screen I'm confident the M9 will last longer. The 20mp camera should also be a nice upgrade over my m7 too. I'm going to wait till the reviews of course. The big concern I have with the curve screen on the S6 edge is how well it fair against dropping on concrete. Yes there are cases but the curve does increase the odds some what more than a flat screen in terms of being hit directly.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mermaidss:
don't like it when battery heats faster than I could imagine.. definitely s6 for me
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] victorinoxs:
I'm leaning towards to S6 at this moment simply for the best mobile camera on the market, but gosh, I really really hate TouchWiz......

If M9's camera can be, say 90% as good as that of S6, and if the price is right, I might go with M9. I don't care for its speakers, don't care for sdcard support, don't care for Sense and its bloatwares, don't like that useless black bar with an HTC logo, don't care for metal casing. I'm willing go with M9 simply because I hate TouchWiz to my guts, not because I like anything that HTC is doing.

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edit: BTW, I currently own an M7, but I converted it GPE because I don't like Sense either. TouchWiz and Sense are both bloatware-ridden but at lease Sense is more toleratable....
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Applesexual:
There's no reason to get the M9 over the S6.

The S6 is superior in every metric except sound and microSD card.

Concerning several arguments made by htc fanboys:

1. The S6's camera is superior to the M9's camera. HTC knows that their camera is inferior in quality, so they're playing the megapixel war, hoping that people would think the bigger number meant the better camera, and based on what some of you are writing, it seems their strategy worked.

2. Battery capacity does not tell us everything about battery life. The S6 is chock-full of Samsung's latest technology which improves energy efficiency. The latest geekbench test shows us that the S6 will have 8.5 hours of SoT under intensive usage, which is far higher than the 3-5 hour SoT from previous phones.

The M9 is pretty much the same thing as the M8, so its battery life under intensive usage should be 5 hours SoT.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SPreston2001:
As a longtime HTC fan sadly I have to agree with you. Sammy really brought out their big guns this time. If only TouchWiz was more Sense-like...
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fernando sor:
Is this supposed to be an in depth analysis? I don't get why people who have no desire to get the phone continuously troll HTC forums.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arslan1122:
Going with HTC M9

Because I have heard that Samsung Galaxy has some problem with the battery
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Applesexual:
lol... no...

The S6's battery is just fine and it looks like it'll probably have the longest SoT out of any phone released and will release this year.

The M9 is the one that has battery issues.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] avi16679:
where did you get that

this is a ****ing lie
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lex.vr7:
Innovation huh?

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" was HTC's motto with the M9. They definitely did a good job by improving on whatever went wrong with the M8; putting in a better SoC into a smaller body, an extra GB of ram, a better camera, a bigger battery. Agreed, Samsung is innovating (I love the S6Edge). But don't they seem a little confused about what to do with their flagships? If you want to talk innovation, here: BoomSound. Zoe. Sense. Dot-View. UltraPixel. SMU (Sexy, Metal Unibody).

Samsung? Umm.. Heart rate sensor?

The metal frame that they put on the S6 (after receiving a gazillion complaints about its plastic), isn't innovation.

The fingerprint reader, isn't innovation.

The overkill resolution on a 5.1" display, isn't innovation.

I don't see anything else that Samsung truly "innovated" :silly:

Speaking of design, you can't criticize HTC for their design when Samsung's been bringing out similar designs for all their higher-mid-range and flagship devices.

And speaking of internal parts- Kudos to Samsung for creating the almighty Exynos 7420. The performance of the S6 may blow the other flagships out of the water, but just because the S6 runs on Samsung's very own SoC doesn't mean that S6 is a better phone overall.

Now will the real HTC fans please stand up? :victory:
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vegetaleb:
The thing is that htc fanboys like me are deceived unless htc has magicians as technicians and transform totally the camera and screen of the M9
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xJedix:
Probably will go with M9. The RF testing shows M9 ahead of S6 and S6E. Hopefully the test results are close to re-world situations.

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...rock-out-with-their-flagships-for-the-season/

Definitely props to Samsung on their own SoC.... but definitely not much else for being innovative. If anything, copying HTC's metal body style.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Applesexual:
It's from tweakers.net, which is a very reputable Dutch tech site.

The S6 isn't a metal unibody like M9. Nice try.

No, but it's certainly shaping up to be one.

Another glowing review of the S6 came out, calling it the closest thing to a masterpiece yet.

https://recombu.com/mobile/article/samsung-galaxy-s6-review-in-depth
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badboy47:
None get a toothpaste.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jollywhitefoot:
It's hard for me to agree with this statement when the S6 looks exactly like the iPhone6. Probably just a coincidence, but still...
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HapticThreek:
I think its probably going to be the M9. Been debating myself between the 2 for the past few days but I've just found out that rooting the S6 irrevocably voids the warranty. I know rooting HTC *could* void the warranty, but I've always been able to get the bootloader Locked/tampered flags back to how they were. In the S6 (and other samsungs) there is a e-fuse that once triggered can't be reversed and voids warranty.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jonnyn93:
I personally feel that Samsung have realized that Apple are still leading and they are now following in their footsteps. I feel that Samsung are sellouts now. I guess in the long run they will sell much more devices because of their design choices this year. I would still be getting the S6 if the 128GB model wasn't to damn expensive, and that's why I'm going with HTC, just a shame that HTC aren't doing too well.

I guess next year I will be going with neither HTC or Samsung, perhaps one of these upcoming Chinese brands......??

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I guess what a lot of people seem to forget is that the M8 was a fantastic phone, gorgeous looking, great sound, great performance and the higher class of manufacturing processes. When you ask most people what they want in a phone. I guarantee that they will mention a lot of those things. This year HTC have simply renewed a design that was almost perfect, and made it better. I understand that the current software state of the M9 is a bit poo, but in time it will improve and once again be a truly amazing piece of hardware! :)
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vegetaleb:
If you are bored from the M7 and M8 design because you used them for 2 years, it's time to try something new like S6 or N4, you will discover a super screen and camera, this is what I am gonna do I think, I can't stand another year with bad camera so no M9 for me
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SPreston2001:
That's exactly what I did!! I've rode with HTC for YEARS going all the way back to the OG Evo! The M9 just didnt do enough to make me wanna upgrade from my M8 so I picked up a Note 4 a few days ago! I've always hated TouchWiz but honestly after using it for a couple of days its not that bad.. I do still pick up my M8 and reminisce, but imma try something new and give the N4 a run. I can say the camera is AMAZING!! It blows the M8s camera out the water lol.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vegetaleb:
Can you compare M8 and N4 screens under sunlight with Auto and manual brightness (should do a good difference on N4)?
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SPreston2001:
Sure if the sun is out tomorrow I'll go out and compare the two! Are you looking for the difference in sunlight visibility?
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vegetaleb:
Yep!

I red very opposite answers that's why I am lost, on the paper the Note 4 with auto and +5 should be better than M8 with 750 nits vs 480
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xda23:
Not to go off topic but this is a qwestion for m8 previous users. How was the battery life and was it kind of pain not having a removable battery? I have the Gs5 and note 4 now.which device has a bigger more powerful processor m9 or the Gs6. Thanks :)
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dondavis007:
As with other Ones, the camera won't be overall best but the phone itself is great. Most of my really great pics is from M7 and 8 because of the quick shutter speed, I'm a bit worried now. I'll wait and see if the next batch of upgrades will make it better. The Note 4 I'm using right now is great but it lags a bit, there is hiccups in the normal Samsung way and a great but way to slow camera. My ones has been like a better iPhone, instant. The Note even lag when playing The Hobbit, a game even MX 4 handle good.

Sent from a mobile gadget...

---------- Post added at 06:51 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:50 AM ----------

It was great, not as good as 1+1 or note, but overall a better phone.

Sent from a mobile gadget...
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xda23:
So is it safe to say these 2 devices on the tmobile network will have unlocked bootloaders? Thanks
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] entropism:
Pretty sure Chainfire confirmed the S6 is unlocked, but rooting will still trip KNOX as of right now. That means no Samsung Pay at all, and corporate email might be voided.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fernando sor:
It isn't unlocked. That would depend on carrier etc. Chainfire has rooted it. Unlocking will be difficult I would imagine with Samsung soc.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xda23:
I'm on T-Mobile so both the Gs6 and m9 should be unlocked right? Thanks
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] entropism:
Fernando, he was asking about the T-Mobile version in particular, which is unlocked. You can put money on the fact that AT&T & Verizon's will be locked down as completely as they can.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SPreston2001:
OK so I went out with both phones and I can confirm that while both phones look pretty good in direct sunlight, the Note 4 is slightly brighter on auto mode. On manual mode they seem to be about equal but when the N4 was on auto it got a few notches brighter! I tried to take pics but none of them can out very well. I can say the M8 has brighter more vibrant whites though! The N4 whites are more warm and creamy compared to the bright crisp white of my M8.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vegetaleb:
Thanks bro!

I think M9 is losing the battle for me, so it will be S6 or N4
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jureca:
HTC M9, S6 copy apple software and is pesimo, HTC best design and best software;)
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hija31:
I thought I'll go for S6 or S6 edge this year because of small differences between the M8 and M9, but after playing with S6 & Edge in local store I've decided to go for the M9.

I don't know if it's only me, but the S6 looks better than the S6 edge which is somehow "awkward", and feels strange in the hand.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SPreston2001:
While I agree HTC has the best software and design, they still swung and missed when it came to a few other areas. The design is both a positive and a negative. Its still the best looking phone, but its also the same design that's now starting to age. You can't keep releasing the same physical phone and expect people to stay interested. I'm not really too concerned about the 810 heating issue but refusing to challenge your engineers to find a way to make the black bar go away is just ridiculous. You really mean to tell me that after 3 years your engineers can't find a way to get rid of the black HTC bar and hide the internals behind the screen? Im starting to think HTC just wants the bar there for marketing reasons. Why can't they just expand the screen in place of that black bar and hide the speaker internals behind the screen? Its really a shame because I truly love everything about Sense. I know I'll still get the M9 but part of me is truly disappointed with HTC...
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jackal2001:
I need a new phone bad. Would like the ability to run custom ROMs but sine I will be upping a 2 year contract on ATT I feel if I want to do that the m9 is the only choice.

Att support sucks when it comes to fixing phones with software updates. They also have a lot of bloat. I'm not going to pay for a T-Mobile s6 outright either.

I really don't know what to do.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SPreston2001:
You don't have to pay for the phone outright on T-Mobile. They can set u up on a payment plan.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jackal2001:
I should have stated that I don't want to pay $700 for a phone outright. I really don't believe phones should cost more than laptops these days.

I can basically get anything on contract and I've only been messing around with my GS2 which I'm running cyanogen on. I haven't been following all the latest news on phones. From what I can tell the only phone you purchase branded by ATT that you can unlock the bootloader and rom is the HTC M9. ATT branded S6 and even the LG G4 probably won't be able to run custom roms... is that correct?

My other major concern is battery life. As of now the S6 looks like it gets better battery life than the M9.

Here is a stupid question. When the stores get these in stock, can I go to T-mobile, buy a phone outright and say I'm going to my ATT store with it. Walk into a ATT store and say put this Tmobile phone on my account and activate it? Or do I have to buy an unlock code for it online before going to ATT.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jonnyn93:
My M9 is arriving on Tuesday, I cant deny that I'm excited, but cant deny I'm not worried about its overheating either. How long I'll keep it for I really don't know.

I'm sure HTC will fix this problem eventually. I'd have bought the S6 Edge 128GB already if it was out before may.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chocolina:
For me its between the G4 and the M9 or M9+

If G4 release isn't confirmed to release before May 20th, I'll likely get an M9.

I jumped the shark pretty soon with the M9 so I already have a case for it.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] d-pak:
I'm in the same boat M7 user deciding between s6/edge or M9

M7 was my second android phone and I love it even today. Got it free from att and converted it to a dev edition immediately - Unlocked Bootloader via HTC and S-OFF back in the rumrunner days. No bloatware since that day, consistent OTA and since I use it for secure work, it is encrypted and not rooted.

Now on Lollipop and with a combination of App Ops, most useful, highly customizable device I've ever owned. I envy the wife's iPhone6 when I hold it or use the camera, but that lasts 5 mins before I realize can't go back to a locked down "do it our way" phone.

will wait to hold both the M9 and S6/S6 edge in my hands, not a fan of too big of a screen on account of road bike saddle carrier. I am not a big fan of TouchWiz (too dumbed down), but Sense had been a good balanced skin.

The factors for me to switch away would be...

1. which can be converted to a bloat free device quicker - buy via att & then convert i.e. s-off vs samsung root (s5 took an eternity)

2. better camera for an avid traveller - I am tired of the 4 UltraPixel Crap...that iPhone Camera is simply amazing, whichever comes close to iPhone quality wins in my opinion.

3. finish is not really a big factor - most pretty phones end up in cases anyways.

4. audio quality and battery life - i use my phone consistently as my sound system in hotel rooms about 3/4 weeks of the month.

5.less gimmicky crap and more practical stuff e.g. (IR blaster = good, Samsung Pay = crap; quick camera startup = good, fancy camera shooting modes = crap; uhoh protection = good, waterproof marketing = crap)

If S6/edge is really an iphone killer then worth a look. M9 would be "maintain loyalty" upgrade for me.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jureca:
If you could see improved much agree not know what happened to do some changes, even if M7 and M8 best phones and M9?, As will be seen throughout the year, who takes him, but I'm betting by HTC because I still love everything and sure for M10 there will be a big change.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Teo032:
You know what I like about the HTC M series, the forums. you guys are actually having a reasonable discussion with great arguments and counters. If this was the S6 forum, you would exactly know how that would go.

Also remember the early reviews for HTC m8? everybody loathed it, "camera sucks, battery sucks, etc etc etc" It turns out that the camera shines in manual mode. I love the manual mode for that beast. although point and shoot auto could've been better.

For the battery, remember how S5 battery ended up comparing to m8? Yeah... S5 battery was subpar compared to the note series and m8.

-Using the oneplusone right now and damn this **** lasts forever.

M8 rocked the S5 in every category except point and shoot auto mode for pictures even though the s5 had better early reviews.

Point is that take these early reviews lightly, play with the phones yourself for a few days each and see which one you want to end up keeping. I believe most carriers allow a 2 week phone return policy or whatever.

I know I sound like a HTC fanboy, but I'm not.. just a phone junkie. I jump between phones every few months and most likely will be going to the m9 from the oneplus. S6 sounds very nice from all the reviews but then I feel like the usability of it will be like the s3-s5. It'll start out very smooth and fast, then suddenly you see glitches and lags here and there then FCs (time to install a new custom ROM).

Don't get me wrong, I'll most likely test out the s6 for a few weeks and see if it gives me a different feel from the rest of the S series, but if not probably jump ships to m9.

What i'm really looking forward to is Sony's Z4. I really like what sony is doing overall, they just need more development to keep me interested
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vegetaleb:
You miss the point that htc didn't change the design for the 3rd year and the camera is nothing close to S6 and N4. If you come from sammy I can understand you want to try an htc aluminum phone but for us M7 then M8 users we are tired and annoyed by this becoming boring design and poor camera. If only they just changed the speaker grill into line instead of dots it would have been something, but no!

Oh and I forget! The slcd3 is here for the 3rd year too, the Z3 lcd and N4/S6 are miles better.

This is not what we should expect from an expensive 2015 phone : a phone with 2013 specs
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superchilpil:
Thread needs to be deleted, comparison threads and other similar threads are a breeding ground for flaming.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Teo032:
there's no need to attack me, I didn't miss the point. I am well aware of the same metal design and it was brought up many times already. the s3-s5 was basically the same phone. minimal aesthetic changes, but the same usability. I'm not even attacking the s series. I even pointed out that it looks and sounds like an awesome phone but will it bog down like its predecessors only time will tell. also it just sounds like the s6 camera is very good not that the m9 is bad. to be honest, you just sound like a disappointed fanboy who wanted more, sorry that htc didn't change their flagship into a flying car for you. to be fair I am also disappointed by the looks of it.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] graffixnyc:
The GS 6 is the first Samsung phone I've been interested in since my GS 3 and I think it's a really nicely designed phone (about time Samsung) however, I can't.....I just can't deal with touchwiz. It's by far my least favorite skin with lg's close behind because it mimics so much of samsungs UI. Using my moms g2 I feel like I'm using a Samsung device. I hate touchwiz so much that I would rather use iOS.

Now you might bring up the point "you don't like touch wiz that's easy. This is xda flash cm or something on it when it's available to get rid of touch wiz".

But there is a HUGE problem with that. The GS 6 uses an exynos processor which is notorious for being closed and making it very difficult for developers to get anything stable working on it. This is what caused entropy512 and other Samsung devs to stop deving for exynos based devices. You will always have major bugs in aosp releases on exynos based devices because of how closed everything is and a lot really has to be hacked pretty badly to get to work. The international GS 3 never got things like the hw composer working right it was project butter without the butter hahah. It was a mess. So in that sense it's kinda a development disadvantage to get an exynos based device. Qualcomm is a lot more open and developer friendly than Samsung is with their exynos SOC