yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M9) General] muayyadf1:
So if I understand correctly, the only limitation is the software. Not something to do with circuitry. I will contact HTC then and get their reason ��

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[MENTION=377973]defcomg[/MENTION] I tried to take a video in 720p in low light and to my surprise, it is MUCH less grainy than 4K in low light. HTC , what were you thinking? At least there should be an option for pixel pinning
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
[MENTION=456666]starbase64[/MENTION] modified lib from your current base tell me how it affects exposure time

also attached in the same zip is modified lib for binning at 720p i set it to 4x4 .

to test record 120fps video with stock lib then change to the lib in the zip file record same scene and do comparisson
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
Forced Max Res to 2692 x 1876 to force 2x2 binning

Before copying this lib set HTC Camera res to the lowest supported as it may fc then use any res listed that falls belows the dimensions of 2692 x 1876

not sure if it will break raw or not if htc cam fc try freedcam
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
[MENTION=377973]defcomg[/MENTION]

long exposure works fine @4.9sec, thanks
[One (M9) General] racingmatt1:
Can anyone tell me if I need to get a new phone because of the camera I am using a m7. This picture is with night mode and auto mode isn't any better. View attachment 3418647
[One (M9) General] muayyadf1:
The only thing you would miss in the M7 is the OIS. Upgrade now!

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I don't have that resolution in the settings at all. Where is that lib located at?

Thanks

EDIT: nevermind, found it.

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I found something interesting, IMX230 lib. Looks like HTC considered sony sensor.
[One (M9) General] fokus:
Wasp steals my breakfast :)

https://youtu.be/xs4oqe7XOR0

This video was taken with my M9 last sunday at breakfast. I'm suprised of the good macro qualtiy.
[One (M9) General] muayyadf1:
This once again, confirms good hardware but bad implementation..
[One (M9) General] racingmatt1:
Is eis way worse than ois? Will I notice a big difference (bad) from the m7 considering the m9 is eis?
[One (M9) General] RSK01:
Night mode or manual:

Sentosa Singapore by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Sentosa Singapore by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Sentosa Singapore by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Sentosa Singapore by Yik Lim, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] fokus:
Flower taken with my M9, latest firmware (2.10.401..) and latst HTC camera updat.

Cropped a little and added a bit saturation and sharpness with th M9's photo diting software.

BTW: Do NOT use the AWB! If you have a dominant color in your image AWB will kill the brilliance.

EDIT: To compare: second image is the untouched one, straight of the cam
[One (M9) General] jollywhitefoot:
Nice tip on WB. I'll have to try to remember that next time
[One (M9) General] tele_jas:
I like the camera much better than the M8, in normal lighting......But in low-light, I actually liked my M8 better.

The M9 sometimes has trouble focusing and the shots are a little more grainy and sometimes blurry. I play in a band and take lots of stage shots (usually fairly dark) and have many more blurry ones with the M9 compared to when I had the M8.

But like I said, the regular lighting pictures are really amazing IMO.
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
what are your guys settings for regular point and shoot in auto?
[One (M9) General] RSK01:
Make sure your lens is squeaky clean, no oil streaks etc

Fix max ISO at lowest possible, 200 for auto, 100 for manual.

Sharpness -1 or -1.5

Check your lens again

Just press the shutter button, don't pick a point to focus, unless you know what you are doing. Hold very very still, or brace phone on any immobile object (I need that coz I have shaky hands and I drink too much)

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Auto vs HDR vs RAW vs jpg vs Photoshop Filter

Originals on Flickr

By the way, I am on 2.10

M9 Auto Sunset by Yik Lim, on Flickr

M9 HDR Sunset by Yik Lim, on Flickr

M9 Auto jpg by Yik Lim, on Flickr

M9 RAW dng by Yik Lim, on Flickr

M9 RAW jpg by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Photoshop Vibrant Filter by Yik Lim, on Flickr

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Night Mode:

Mini - Old vs New by Yik Lim, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] c5satellite2:
You may have a bad sensor. Known issue with m7. Purple tint is the issue.

Check here for more info:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2817607

[GUIDE] HTC One M7 - Purple Tint Fix
[One (M9) General] fps_pete:
On auto. Stock att 5.1
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=535051]RSK01[/MENTION] thanks for the samples, are you sure about your DNG? it looks processed by HTC to me ;)
[One (M9) General] RSK01:
Can't believe I made the same mistake again!!!! I need to drink less....

M9 RAW dng - 2nd try by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Same location : HTC Re Time Lapse - Cluody-Sunset-Jupiter Decending

HTC Re Time Lapse - Cloudy - Jupiter Decending by Yik Lim, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
it's still wrong mate, are you converting the DNG to JPEG yourself?
[One (M9) General] RSK01:
Open the RAW file in Photoshop express then click the share button....

Is that correct?
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
yes but you are posting is the processed JPG even in the second run

open the DNG file via the file explorer in photoshop express and save the image
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
Some tests made with Auto vs RAW on zero light room. I have to say I'm impressed about RAW capability, and not so much with auto mode. All of these were taken with 2.8.617.4 firmware running MaximusHD 6 ROM. Here's the DNG file in case you're curious:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23590425/M9 White Balance and Flash Test/zero light room RAW.dng

Auto mode, all settings on default, sharpness 0:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u...lance and Flash Test/zero light room auto.jpg

RAW JPG companion:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u...sh Test/zero light room RAW JPG companion.jpg

Processed RAW with Darktable, I just added profiled denoise cause the exported JPG was too grainy.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u...est/zero light room default processed RAW.jpg

Processed RAW file with additional spot white balance adjustment

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u... Flash Test/zero light room processed RAW.jpg

I exported all of them as 8-bit JPEG with 95% quality, and doesn't matters which one all of them look a lot better than auto mode in my opinion. I'm surprised on how little modifications are required on the default RAW shot, I'm not sure which one I like most; fixed white balance seems a bit cold to me, maybe I could've adjusted white balance better manually, but it's 3 a.m so I wasn't on the mood I guess :p, but again any of them look a lot better than auto, so I'll just take night shots on RAW, auto handles decent shots on daylight but night seems a whole different story.
[One (M9) General] flex360:
all auto shots at my girlfriend's cousin's house. I love her garden so :)

IMAG0739 by Dwight Beckett, on Flickr

IMAG0748 by Dwight Beckett, on Flickr

IMAG0750 by Dwight Beckett, on Flickr

IMAG0772 by Dwight Beckett, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] muayyadf1:
Pictures are not really different than the S6 if you-know-what you are doing. Except for low light.
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
I would love to have auto hdr and some kind of dis in the software, especially when it comes to video it's more or less necessary if you want to use it. A live hdr without the full effect would be nice also, on the S6 I prefer the milder version of hdr that you get from the live (auto) hdr version.

In daylight the camera is pretty good doing freze motion but sadly something needs to be done with the software when the lights is out. I just want a point n click that works out of the box, I think it's more software than hardware really.

sent from a mobile gadget.
[One (M9) General] racrickey:
Some under water shots with the active case.
[One (M9) General] peca_slo:
Which case did you have
[One (M9) General] OGhoul:
So your Active Pro case actually seals all the way around? My two did not, in the top corners, sometimes a bottom corner, and below the buttons on the side. And if I squeezed it screen and back, the side below the buttons would pop open.
[One (M9) General] racrickey:
The HTC active case.

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At first it didn't. I moved around the yellow seal that's on the back to make it straight all the way around and after taking it off 3 or 4 times I got it to fit really well. There still is a little seam on the top but it doesn't leak at all. I had it in the water for about 40 mins with no problems.
[One (M9) General] OGhoul:
What about if you squeeze front and back, does it pop open anywhere? As it stands right now, I wouldn't trust the cases that I've had., however HTC is replacing my second one once they're back in stock.
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
Agree with the HDR Auto it's a nice feature but the low light shots would have a higher priority IMO. And talking about that check RAW out for night or low light shots, it works out of the box pretty much, basically you only need to process the RAW into JPG and maybe add denoise; that's it the default values look a lot better than auto.
[One (M9) General] muayyadf1:
Auto mode = auto destruction
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
Yeah, HTC needs to get their algorithms revised as a high priority. This lens is the proof it doesn't matter how good the lens will be (cause this seems a very capable one) the software screws it up. I don't get it I even used a free RAW manipulation software for Linux (Darktable) and the denoise algorithm is way superior to HTC denoise one, a free program based on a free to use algorithm! :eek:

Maybe this is just a troublesome lens, but I'd bet for the bad software implementation.
[One (M9) General] muayyadf1:
At least we have manual mode and raw option. We know the camera module is good by using these other options. I don't know why HTC fails so bad in software. It should not be that difficult.
[One (M9) General] trwnh:
Well... Finally bothered to update to Lollipop 5.1 / Venom 3.5 / 2.10.401.1 now that most of my Xposed modules work! I do miss a few things, like how you could customize power saver, and how some modules were less buggy on 5.0, but that's not really the point here.

I haven't taken many 2.10 sample shots yet, but I DID get this one full-auto shot quickly. I had to act fast, and the subject was spinning around quite quickly, so I had to minimize blurring as best as possible. Results aren't bad. ;)

(Again, full auto, very quick shot, entire window of opportunity was about ~2 seconds. 10:7 "Medium" Sharpness -0.5, I believe.)

The lens is f/2.2 and could be better (I will NEVER understand why HTC didn't go for f/2.0 like the M7/M8... that would have been closer to the f/1.9 of the S6 and f/1.8 of the G4...), but the sensor is definitely not bad (1/2.4" which is bigger than the 1/2.6" of the G4 and S6) even though pixel size is 1.12um (same as S6 which is 1.12 or 1.2 depending on source, and the G4 is 1.29um). And of course, software is the main issue because even though the M9's camera setup is technically better (except for the f/2.2, I'm still mad about that), the post-processing ruins it. Thank God that the M9 has RAW mode, and their RAW mode is more useful than on the G4...

(Still though, f/2.2 with 1.12um pixel size is not doing the M9 any favors, since its aperture isn't as big as its Rayleigh limit: http://sonictech101.blogspot.com/2015/03/galaxy-s6-vs-one-m9-battle-of-optics.html they would have benefited greatly from a larger aperture... the closer to <=f/1.77 the better for 1.12um pixels, and while f/1.77 is too difficult on a smartphone for now f/2 is still better than f/2.2 and the 1.2um S6 sensors are pretty close to their limit.)
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
Thanks. I'm using raw for night, but I would love to just pop t n click :)

sent from a mobile gadget.
[One (M9) General] trwnh:
True "point and shoot" in low light is unfortunately not quite possible on M9... there is hope for the future and it has improved and the results are decent, but not good. I am personally hoping HTC implements pixel binning, but that's not now.
[One (M9) General] Qwest905:
i kind of like this camera..has potential..but i agree software is bad..

took this in HDR mode...i do wish this had image stabilization...because videos suck on this
[One (M9) General] OtterNZ:
I like this photo. The colours, brightness, and crispness are all really appealing. Was this straight from the camera, or have you edited it?
[One (M9) General] Qwest905:
straight from the camera no editing at all...straight HDR auto...was very impressed
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
True, there is a few software trick that could be used, Asus binning, Samsung's hdr like nightmode, google hdr plus or just some other trick made by HTC :)

As a matter of fact , the hdr is great for nightshots, you just have to keep the phone extremely still for a quite to long time, a live hdr could probably be a good middle ground :)

sent from a mobile gadget.
[One (M9) General] RSK01:
Manual - untouched:

M9 - Manual - Marina Bay Sands, Arts & Science Museum, Helix Bridge by Yik Lim, on Flickr

M9 -Manual - Arts & Science Museum by Yik Lim, on Flickr

M9 - Manual - Singapore City Skyline by Yik Lim, on Flickr

M9 - Manual - Singapore City Skyline by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Photoshop Express Vibrant Filter:

M9 PSX Auto Enhanced by Yik Lim, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] BR7fan:
Point and shoot with

A better camera app

HTC Camera

Which do you like better ?
[One (M9) General] lilhaiti:
I really don't see any difference in the images aside from the Words you added.
[One (M9) General] BR7fan:
That's the answer I was looking for. I didn't want to say anything to put an answer in someone's head. This way I get an uninfluenced answer.

Thanks :)

Based on these pictures I think the HTC Camera is getting bad ratings on GP,because it says HTC.

A better camera app ratings 4.3

HTC Camera app 3.5
[One (M9) General] Ramsey:
Just got my M9 from Swappa, I can take some shots using Snap camera on the M9 and comparing them to my Galaxy S5 if someone is interested. Both will be denoise off.
[One (M9) General] FreeWolF80:
I am very interested!
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
Can you share these dng's

:fingers-crossed:
[One (M9) General] RSK01:
[MENTION=377973]defcomg[/MENTION] Here you go....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fn6yp1se3jrutye/IMAG1746.dng?dl=0

I have been using RAW camera for almost every occasion, except on a few when HDR can do a better job....
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
thanks my usage is the same always shoot raw and when scene is very contrasty i use hdr mode capped to iso 100
[One (M9) General] OtterNZ:
At first I saw no difference, then after clicking backwards and forwards there might be a very slight difference in the sharpness on the front petal...but I've clicked back and forwards between the 2 so many times that I'm more inclined to think that I'm just imaging it as I slowly go insane.

If I had to give 1 answer, I'd say there was no difference between the two.
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
gave it a go in LR

IMAG1746 by defcomk, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] iggdawg:
dat color...
[One (M9) General] muayyadf1:
raw + psx

[IMG="1"]http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3432996&stc=1&d=1439091660[/IMG]
[One (M9) General] barabico:
under the bridge by Hristo Hristov, on Flickr

bicycles by Hristo Hristov, on Flickr

Denkmal am Zirkusgasse by Hristo Hristov, on Flickr

I don't remember if i had posted the last one
[One (M9) General] killeeeeer:
While cleaning my gaming PC

Auto, Sharpness - 1.5

View attachment 3433439

View attachment 3433440

Sent from my HTC One M9
[One (M9) General] xxquicksh0txx:
Noctua fans are the best +1
[One (M9) General] marchitecto:
View attachment 3433570
[One (M9) General] Ramsey:
Question to everyone.

I'm trying to take some samples from my S5 and M9. I just got the M9 2 days ago and I'm noticing that the camera is very very laggy in lower light, even day light isn't that smooth. I'm running ViperOne Android 5.1 latest firmware.

Focusing is very slow in low light, the S5 is smoother and much quicker.

Is it very laggy for everyone? Not the UI but the "viewfinder".
[One (M9) General] RSK01:
Same few photos auto enhanced with PSX:

HTC M9 RAW PSX Auto Enhanced Singapore Skyline SG50 by Yik Lim, on Flickr

HTC M9 RAW PSX Auto Enhanced Singapore Skyline SG50 by Yik Lim, on Flickr

HTC M9 RAW PSX Auto Enhanced Singapore Skyline SG50 by Yik Lim, on Flickr

HTC M9 RAW PSX Auto Enhanced Singapore Skyline SG50 by Yik Lim, on Flickr

HTC M9 RAW PSX Auto Enhanced Singapore Skyline SG50 by Yik Lim, on Flickr

HTC M9 RAW PSX Auto Enhanced Singapore Skyline SG50 by Yik Lim, on Flickr

HTC M9 RAW PSX Auto Enhanced Singapore Skyline SG50 by Yik Lim, on Flickr

HTC M9 RAW PSX Auto Enhanced Singapore Skyline SG50 by Yik Lim, on Flickr

HTC M9 RAW PSX Auto Enhanced Singapore Skyline SG50 by Yik Lim, on Flickr

HTC M9 RAW PSX Auto Enhanced Singapore Skyline SG50 by Yik Lim, on Flickr

M9 - HDR - Bugis Stairs by Yik Lim, on Flickr

M9 - PSX Auto Enhanced - Bugis Stairs by Yik Lim, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] peca_slo:
Do u have advanced pack bought in psx?
[One (M9) General] OtterNZ:
I love checking out your photos, Singapore always looks so interesting! Those coloured stair houses are pretty awesome too. Thanks for taking the time.

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Your definition of laggy and my definition might not be the same. But I've never considered the viewfinder or photo taking laggy Note: corrected in another post below as I misunderstood which part of the process we were measuring. It takes a fraction longer during HDR capture obviously, but auto is instant. Stock 5.0.2 with 1.40 firmware I believe.
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
First, can you define low light? Environments like night indoor shots, or outside with almost or no light at all?

Second, can you define laggy? If you mean the time it takes to focus + take a pic yes it's way slower than daylight pics, but I think that is because it takes a second calculating the white balance with dual tone flash on.
[One (M9) General] Ramsey:
It's definitely laggy. Not when I press the shutter button but when moving the phone, the image is really laggy. As soon as I use my S5 the difference is huge, very smooth and you feel like you can just take pics quickly.

But anyways, I added these "persist.camera.qcwnr.enabled=0" "camera.eis.enable=0" to build.prop and I don't need to use snap camera anymore so I'm happy that I can use stock camera app with noise reduction reduced for great results (though there's way too much color noise). On the S5 snap camera denoise unchecked really takes the noise reduction away so it's sharper than Snap camera on the M9, where it does take most of it away but not everything, so some smudging can remain when zooming in. I remember on the G3 when I tried snap camera denoise unchecked it hardly worked so results were bad.

HDR is awesome in this phone because it actually improves the quality of the image and reduces noise, it doesn't just fix high contrast areas but improves the image and I believe because it applies multiple exposure just like DSLRs and mirrorless cameras.

The phones heats up too much though so it's annoying for my hand.
[One (M9) General] OtterNZ:
Ah sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying above. Yes I get that when moving the phone in low light too.
[One (M9) General] Ramsey:
Sorry I didn't see your message.

It would be inside a house with the lights dim, not off but pretty dim. Or outside if you want at night. I don't use the flash but even flash is very slow compared to other phones. I had the Oppo find 7a and that one was so fast in any light.

I'm noticing lots of color noise that I wish there was a way to reduce only color noise but keep the noise reduction low in stock HTC cam.
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
Nice shots can you share 1st, 3rd and fourth dng
[One (M9) General] Ramsey:
I took some shots with my M9 with Snap Camera and denoise unchecked. Download them to see full size, zooming in GDrive doesn't show you full resolution =(. Each pic is around 10mb, so they're without compression.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3vmznAFra6gMEZPeU9oV3dUUDQ

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3vmznAFra6gQkI3QUJOZ0V2alk

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3vmznAFra6gNEYxdGVJSEpJNms

While those were taken with Snap camera, I stopped using Snap camera and I am only using stock HTC cam with denoise off in build.prop. I'll take other shots later and compare them to the S5.

There's too much contrast and saturation from my M9 and I found pics unrealistic. With denoise off, I found that contrast and saturation are best kept at -0.5. Sharpness at -0.5 so far, I'll keep testing. Of course sharpness is better at -1.5 when denoise is on but with off you can bring it to -0.5. The pictures above have contrast and saturation at default in Snap camera with sharpness at 1 out of 6, I believe.

I like Raw the most but I don't have time to always convert them to JPG (I find photoshop express super slow! Photoshop on my PC is faster), so I find that stock cam with denoise unchecked is the way to go, for me. :)
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
I tried to take it with HDR but the colors were too flashy, so I took it Jpeg normal + post edit
[One (M9) General] RSK01:
[MENTION=5621588]peca_slo[/MENTION] Yes I have the advance pack

[MENTION=377973]defcomg[/MENTION] Will provide the link in a while

A few more from past few days:

HDR

M9 - HDR by Yik Lim, on Flickr

HDR

M9 - HDR - Z4 vs The Sun by Yik Lim, on Flickr

PSX - Vibrant Filter

M9 - Flickr Bleached - Mushroom Sky by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Just RAW camera:

M9 - Mushrooms by Yik Lim, on Flickr

M9 - Macro - Flower by Yik Lim, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] muayyadf1:
Manual raw mode and with little PSX editing
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
[MENTION=535051]RSK01[/MENTION] is the grain on the sky while taking HDR photos normal on other camera phones? Just curious cause I didn't use camera at all on my previous phones, and now with the M9 sometimes I notice that
[One (M9) General] hamud.q:
No , I'm sure there is a problem with inaccurate colors while using HDR in m9 .
[One (M9) General] Maclx:
@ RSK01: Really nice pictures!

What do you mean with psx editing? :) Can't find anything out there in the internet
[One (M9) General] fmedrano1977:
Photoshop Express, app on playstore.

HTC One (M9)
[One (M9) General] Ramsey:
psx is photoshop express, you can find it in the play store for free. You can edit pics and raw .dng files in psx.
[One (M9) General] oblivianz:
What is the recommended settings for 2.10 firmware camera? Is it still reduce sharpness by 1.5 and change to 10:7?
[One (M9) General] DjLukeW:
All hdr I think these were...
[One (M9) General] OGhoul:
It will always be 10:7, but I believe [MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION] stated that we should still be using Medium and Sharpness at -1 or -0.5.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
[One (M9) General] RSK01:
[MENTION=377973]defcomg[/MENTION] Sorry for the delay, here are the dngs

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b2msl2hba9xdomh/Downloads.rar?dl=0

Yes - PSX is Photoshop Express available on Google Play Store
[One (M9) General] fmedrano1977:
Question, is noise when zooming in on a photo in Photoshop normal?

HTC One (M9)
[One (M9) General] fmedrano1977:
IMAG0357