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[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
I am more and more positively surprised by the camera, specially in daylight, with low light it's better to resize to low small resolutions to hide the noise and smudges, WB in low light is on the cold size, better to use manual WB

Beirut Waterfront today

From RAW

From Jpeg
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
[MENTION=2390514]vegetaleb[/MENTION] excellent photos :) what resolution do you recommend by night, the last photo @ ISO 400 looks really nice! :D what did you edit on them with PaintShop Pro?
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
DAM those pictures came out the m9 wow
[One (M9) General] Galaxysm:
Just took this awhile ago [emoji4]
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=2390514]vegetaleb[/MENTION] full res please
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
thanks to [MENTION=377973]defcomg[/MENTION] for one more second

5 seconds exposure time on HTC One M9 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr

5 seconds exposure time on HTC One M9 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Iso 200 or 400 for night shots as 800 and more are too noisy, WB manual so you can set colors for your liking(new fw camera is a little cold). I edited Raw with Lightroom on PC, most jpeg no postediting, and even if I used it was something very slight.

Auto with low light is very usable now but better change WB modes [MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION] I will for daylight, night shots in full size are not very pretty (smudges and noise)
[One (M9) General] d-pak:
My opinion of the M9 Camera is dropping quickly. I was in Montreal this week and on of of overcast days, i.e. no clouds just bright grey sky, Usually the best for most cameras For the life of the M( it could not balance the light, in auto, in manual, in raw, in HDR. Buildings were too dark and sky was too bright, focusing on the darker areas lighted them, but the washout from sky was too bad. I sat there fidgeting with my M9 for 20 mins and could not get a decent shot.

The next evening was beautiful colorful sunset over the harbor area in old Montreal, skipped dinner to walk around and get some shots. They were absolutely gorgeous, M9 did a fantastic job until the light dropped off and more ISO was needed. I used HDR, manual, raw, different setting, was really proud of my little M9 camera...UNTIL....I copied the pictures to the computer's big screen of zoomed into them and realized that there was an every so slight blur due to shake. I was pissed and entire evening ruined. I held my breath, propped it against various objects such as rails and posts to be steady, shot with the screen shutter and volume button shutter....Now I know the big deal about not having OIS!!! I AM PISSED!

Also the battery drain and heat up of the phone while using camera is crazy. Last irritating point is that M9 doesn't save the camera setting....i.e. I want it to stay on HDR for example...but oh no, every time the camera app exits, it defaults to the original setting....UGH!

I do have a D7100, I do have a X100t, I am not a novice shooter, but I like to have a decent camera in the phone to capture random moments without them completely sucking....an iphone or s6 user who has no clue what they are doing, can simply point and shoot and end up with some amazing shots.

To add insult to injury, this morning Blinkfeed is ridden with ADs. I like Blinkfeed I keep in touch with the world that way, do not even go into Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and news websites any more, not since the M7. Finally HTC crapped all over everything I liked about the M9.

<END RANT>
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
I see that and I think "that's so gonna need a tripod" :p did you use one or have any other trick to keep it that steady?
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
Tripod ...
[One (M9) General] hudsoncouto:
What MOD is that? If it can be made to shoot at 5sec, why not go all the way up to 30sec for some milky-way night shots? Is it possible to add more ISO stops as well? Going all the way down to ISO50 would be nice
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
[MENTION=5300649]hudsoncouto[/MENTION]

really unstable at the moment and crashing over 5 seconds, more development by defcomg is needed.
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Next time use HDR when you are facing a difference in lights.

Yes as I said the m9 is not made for full 20mp photos for night shots, but when you resize from 0.5 to 4mp (perfect facebook size) the night photos are very good, it's like if htc had to remember you the good old days of the 4UP ;)
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
No need to go all the way to 4mp, medium = 16mp, small = 12mp

---------- Post added at 09:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:37 PM ----------

Auto focus, auto focus, auto focus, in both HDR or auto mode don't tap for focus just use the centered auto focus or you break the exposure averaging algorithm, its not iPhone like but that's the way it works, also are you on 1.40 yet?

That being said, HTC must introduce auto HDR since it rocks now on 1.40
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
test with exposure time 5 seconds...

PSX_20150619_034509_wm by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr

PSX_20150619_034146_wm by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr

PSX_20150619_033856_wm by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr

PSX_20150619_033550_wm by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr

PSX_20150619_033153_wm by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
[One (M9) General] neo905:
If you are from Canada, how are you already seeing ads? It is a pilot project right now and Canada thankfully wasn't included. Also, unless you rooted and installed the 1.4 update many of the issues with the camera you had have been addressed. Unfortunately, they screwed up the charging. I was confident when I bought the M9 that in a few months they would iron out the problems. They seem to be playing wack a mole and plug one hole only to open up another. This is getting pretty bad.
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
How did you use 5 sec shutter speed?

The best I can get in manual is 2 sec
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=61315513
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
You really need a tripod for anything slower than 1/8 sec btw

Without OIS and/or f1.8 the M9 camera is not a low light star like an S6 but you get average to good photos quality once resized to hide the smudges. and noises.

For daylight with RAW I can say from experience it's better than S6.

The perfect camera on phones is not possible right now, if you want to put a hybrid sensor (sensors that have the DSLR quality on smaller bodies) on an M9 for example, it wouldn't cost 600$ but 1500$

Even the S6 has trouble getting the right WB indoors, I remember having yellowish walls instead of white, and the absence of RAW is a also a bad point, it's crazy how samsung lied to consumers about RAW, first with Note 4 and now S6
[One (M9) General] DjLukeW:
Here some new ones.

One left as is and 2 edits...

M9 by Luke Woodward, on Flickr

M9 Edit by Luke Woodward, on Flickr

M9 Edit by Luke Woodward, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
PSX_20150621_221853 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr

100% crop

PSX_20150621_221832 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
What are your settings? And build.prop edits???? Those pics look sweet
[One (M9) General] BillTheCat:
Would it be possible to maintain some recommended settings in the op so as improvements are made by HTC in firmware and software we can just get right to it instead of having to wade through what is now a 1500+ post thread chock full of gobstopper photos?
[One (M9) General] kakanjac:
+1
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
Focus: infinite

ISO: 100

et: 1/30

processed with Photoshop Express for Android

no build.prop edit or other special settings, but with tripod.
[One (M9) General] DoKaTSuYa:
A comparison with the S6 & LG G4 ?
[One (M9) General] p50kombi:
Yes sir!!!

Right away sir!!!!!

:)
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
A walk in the forest!

Auto Jpeg DSR untouched:

RAW edit:
[One (M9) General] DoKaTSuYa:
Faster please :p
[One (M9) General] K00li79:
HTC camera app got an update today.

Anybody notice what has changed???
[One (M9) General] neo905:
"Bug fixes and performance improvements" is the most annoying thing in the world of app updates. It is the sports equivalent of a team releasing an injury report and saying "upper body injury" instead of being specific and end up lacking transparency.
[One (M9) General] OGhoul:
HAHA, that was perfect!

...I also got the update, and have no idea what it fixed.
[One (M9) General] K00li79:
Indeed....to lazy to

Make a decent changelog...assholes ?

Couldn't find anything eighter....was wandering if I missed all the fixes and updates... :p
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
At least there is a changelog, with my TV updates there are none for years! I finished once trapped with a laggy smart TV menu for 2 months
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
hey Hamdir or Starbase and significant improvements been done to the camera with the 5.1 update?
[One (M9) General] rizevnarastek:
Better than Google that states nothing in the changeling with it's app updates.

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M9) General] ffodi:
Rainy day. :)

1.40.401.8 stock (+updated cam. app. :p ), sharpness -1, others on auto, + some PS Ex mods

[IMG="Rain1"]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/2w0riu76cw61z0a/PSX_20150623_170859_thumb.jpg?dl=0[/IMG]

--> Click the pic to view it in full res.
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
no freaking way this is from a htc one m9 no freaking way, thats to beautiful to come out of that lens lol
[One (M9) General] neo905:
I think the "ps ex mods" has a lot to do with it. I would love for him to post the shot without any adjustments, just the new firmware and auto mode, for comparison purposes. Most people aren't going to do "ps ex mods" to their pictures.
[One (M9) General] jollywhitefoot:
So cynical...haha.

The photo has nice detail and a pleasant, creamy bokeh. Photoshop isn't going to help much with those. If I had to guess, I'd say contrast was boosted, maybe some curves were adjusted (or shadow/highlight or both) and maybe some sharpening. Nevertheless, it's a fine image and almost every great photographic work of art is going to have some level of post production. Even old Ansel Adams believed in the magic of post production.

"50% of the Creative Process Occurred in the Dark Room"

https://expertphotography.com/10-photography-lessons-from-ansel-adams/
[One (M9) General] fernandezhjr:
Oh there you are. I knew a nice pic would bring you out. Lol
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
PSX is needed to process RAW photos, that's about it, its not really adding to the beauty of the picture

anyway, we need 2.7.401.1 samples please Full Size :)
[One (M9) General] RSK01:
Sorry, is 2.7.401.1 the version number of HTC Camera app?

The one on my phone is 7.15.563434, according to the My Apps listing.

Where to check the version number?
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
not its the leaked 5.1 base for the M9
[One (M9) General] neo905:
Not cynical at all. I am actually glad he stated specifically the settings of how the picture was taken and if it was edited instead of just posting a picture with none of that info. I just would have liked to see what the original picture looked like. I know Hamdir provides baseline pictures like that along with adjusted pictures and that is helpful. So basically a before and after.
[One (M9) General] v1rk:
Took the image below using camera fv-5 app with the leaked 5.1 base just to see how it performed.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/131150354@N05/sets/72157655006630011/
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
MaximusHD 5.0.0 Rom with new Firmware 2.7.401.1

Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rt8r9sbt4pb830s/18928480789_c78cba98fc_o.jpg?dl=1

IMAG0406 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr

PSX_20150623_221914_wm by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
Sunset captured in RAW @ 20MP edited in Photoshop on my PC on the latest AT&T firmware.
[One (M9) General] tomorio:
As many people have mentioned it can be lacking in some aspect. For example sharpness etc. However as mentioned again by a lot of people it all depends on how you take the picture etc. Even professional photographers with the top spec cameras still know that you need lots of light and tweaking to be able to obtain a decent picture.

I think for what it is ... a phone camera ... it does a great job. And in order to take "picture perfect" shots you need to know how best to do it. You will always have limitations when using a camera and if you wanted to take amazing pictures you will never get better than an ACTUAL camera :)

Im still new with the HTC m9 after coming from my samsung. When using the TW camera I found the pictures were slightly sharper than the HTC however the HTC seems to create a certain ambiance which is greater than that of the samsung. However when using custom roms that had the google camera installed the HTC is far superior. Again, only from how I have used it and the results i;ve seen :)
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
Been a while didn't post some edited raw

PSX_20150611_135516.jpg

https://www.flickr.com/photos/132417641@N07/19094754196

PSX_20150610_113204.jpg

https://www.flickr.com/photos/132417641@N07/18500304963

PSX_20150610_094631.jpg

https://www.flickr.com/photos/132417641@N07/18933302520

PSX_20150609_223652.jpg

https://www.flickr.com/photos/132417641@N07/19094866476

PSX_20150602_211532.jpg

https://www.flickr.com/photos/132417641@N07/19121039575

Enjoy
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
I like how the camera performs so far, it has improved a lot from the beginning, however I find the flash screws the white balance most of the times.

I also find the flash is too bright for indoors or close shots sometimes(take previous [MENTION=456666]starbase64[/MENTION] pictures here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=61521197&postcount=1544 as an example of both intensity and white balance distortion), is there a way to measure the flash intensity or reduce it?
[One (M9) General] Albert Poon:
Reduce it... Put tape on it.
[One (M9) General] acidspider:
Manual flash exposure compensation would be great
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
I was looking for a software solution rather to put tape on it lol :D
[One (M9) General] reaktor TuT:
Has anyone noticed the new camera app update seems to have some form of digital image stabilization?
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
How do you mean? Is there an option for it or what ?

Sent from a mobile gadget.
[One (M9) General] flex360:
IMAG0476 by Dwight Beckett, on Flickr

taken with the latest OTA
[One (M9) General] andybg40:
Picked up an Xperia Z3+ yesterday for a try out. Been taking some indoor pics tonight as comparison with the M9 and was quite surprised, both have very different outcomes.

The Z3+ on manual has minimal adjustments at full resolution, so isn't really manual. Popped a shot off and checked out the EXIF on google photo and then replicated the settings on the M9 and fired off the same shot.

The Z3+ has great focus and produces a very clean image across the frame with good sharpness in both fore and background. The M9 produces and equally pleasing image, but the background is less clean in the darker areas and struggles to replicate the Sony. However, the real surprise was in crop.

I'm not sure why this is, but the Z3+ becomes a complete noisy mess on crop, the image looks terrible! Artefacts everywhere and the sharpness it uses to create an overall pleasant image when viewed in full, completely destroy's the picture. The M9 holds great clarity on full crop, minimal artefact and sharpness is well under control, pretty good really.

I notice on DXO Mark that the Z3+ has gone in at 3rd behind the iPhone Plus and S6, so they obviously rate it. I'm yet to use outdoors, but will be going to Brighton this weekend to the beach and the weather is supposed to be great, so will see how the modes function in those conditions. I spent an hour in the garden macro shooting with the M9 a couple of weeks back and the results are truly stunning.

Oh and to add, the speakers are no match for the M9, but we all knew that! ;)
[One (M9) General] ericc191:
That looks epic!

Can you give us your settings?
[One (M9) General] flex360:
Everything stock / default
[One (M9) General] richierich:
Hey guys,

Finally took the plunge and did the whole bootloader unlock, root,s-off, change CID thing, and have now updated to the new 1.40 firmware. Results camera wise are awesome IMO, and as such, here's my first photo post!!! Shot in RAW, full auto, with the recommended image settings, and converted (and lightly processed) in PSX. Really looking forward to seeing what the 5.1 LP update improves!!

RR
[One (M9) General] Sashtheflash:
That s 2.7.401.1View attachment 3379318

Gesendet von meinem HTC One M9 mit Tapatalk
[One (M9) General] erikmollink:
Awesome? What's with all that red/green stripes?
[One (M9) General] Sashtheflash:
Auto mode 2.7.401.1

Sharpness - 1.5 contrast +0.5

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Gesendet von meinem HTC One M9 mit Tapatalk
[One (M9) General] neo905:
Is that pic with the new 1.4 firmware? That is a great low light pic.
[One (M9) General] flex360:
2.7.401.x

Android 5.1
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
Any advice to take decent outdoors shots by night with very low light? Yesterday I tried to take a picture of my of my girlfriend outside a viewing point to capture the view and they were that awful that I deleted them right away, the flash is making some weird things with textures on people and objects in general, completely removing the shadows and making it look 'plane', which doesn't match the behavior of a normal camera, someone had an iPhone 6 there and the photos on flash were looking normal.

Here's an example or the problem also applicable to objects in general, the photo without flash it's too dark but you can look at the texture of the rocks in the plant

View attachment 3379574

This is the same photo with flash, looks at the red stones once again

View attachment 3379575

And this is the best I got editing it

View attachment 3379576

Any recommendations?
[One (M9) General] neo905:
You know what. I did notice it was a bit better. Could have been all in my head as well though. It wasn't shaky the last time I used it.
[One (M9) General] mwatson:
No disrespect, but you must be easy to please. The noise and artifacts really are sad for a 2015 "flagship" I really want to upgrade to this, but the camera is putting me off. It is no improvement over the M8.
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
Strange enough Sony, of all companies, always has been subpar with camera software. If any company should be able to nail a Sony sensor it should be Sony :) ?

Sent from a mobile gadget.
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
Maybe he overdid on the PSX processing and he didn't look at it on a big screen, it happened to me a lot of times with the first PSX images I was experiencing with it, 1.40 firmware uses to produce decent shots under natural ambient light at least that's what I got so far
[One (M9) General] andybg40:
Last Sony phone camera that impressed me was the K800, even had a xenon flash too! :p
[One (M9) General] richierich:
[MENTION=650183]mwatson[/MENTION], not easy to please at all, as I'm a freelance photographer, so do understand the issue with noise within the images this PHONE can produce. However, for a phone, which amongst other things also acts a camera (and coming from the M7) I can appreciate the kinds of composition and ambience I am able to produce with this phone. If i wanted picture perfect images all day everyday, then I'd walk around with my digital SLR and fine optics lenses. But just to grab a nice sunset pic, or anything else on the go, this is perfectly acceptable to me. Again, I know there are other handsets available which are able to capture better quality images than the M9, but lets face it, its the HTC M9, and camera aside, everything else is pretty much tops! So like I said, I'm looking forward to more improvements as HTC seem to be working to better this, hopefully the LP 5.1 update will bring the camera up to par with its rivals. (No disrespect) :)
[One (M9) General] mwatson:
Taking the view that "after all its just a phone" is rather outdated now as we know what can achieved just by looking at the images produced on the iPhone and the SGS6. Even my SGS3 from 2012 performs so much better hence the disappointment. I agree camera aside the M9 is the winner or rather the joint winner with the M8. I has the SGS6 but sent it back as TW is still horrible. I'll keep my eye on this to see how it progresses. Maybe HTC can get their camera nailed with the new rumoured Hero.
[One (M9) General] fps_pete:
Just got this phone, coming from an m8.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
That's widely inaccurate and almost ignorant, he clearly said RAW and using RAW/PSX the M9 destroys both the M8 and the iPhone 6 camera, head to starbase64 out of this world M9 Flickr account before we continue this conversation
[One (M9) General] mwatson:
I did. Sorry it does not produce better images than the iPhone 6. I wish it did!
[One (M9) General] richierich:
...sounds to me like you've already made up your mind fella. Just get the iPhone 6 and be happy! I was happy to buy the M9, its a fantastic all round product, but admittedly was disappointed with the camera performance when first used. But recent updates have improved things massively in terms of image capture, so in that respect, I'm very happy with this product now. Oh and actually, yes, it IS just a phone and is designed to do many things, and until a phone camera can produce the quality and range of images my 5D MKIII and L series lens set up (which has only one purpose btw) can produce, it cannot be an outdated view. (and please lets not point to Apple's recent ad campaign, as all of those images showcased have been retouched by professionals, some of which I know personally! :) ) Lets all try and remember that.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
Sorry but this is ignorance because it's based on outdated information, we are the experts testing here and in RAW it destroys the iPhone

1.40 greatly improved auto processing, but RAW remains the secret weapon on the M9, which also proves that the sensor is great and HTC still doesn't makes the best use of it

But for those who use RAW+PSX it's a photographic beast, we have already posted enough samples to prove ift and solidly our conclusions

Refresh your info by checking out my Flickr album and the one by starbase (not to mention the excellent photos posted by many like vegetaleb)

You say you did but I think you did dismissively, the photos recently posted by starbase are almost DSLR quality