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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
agreed; if I have a choice between the 2, I would always choose having the ability to pull the battery.

however phones that have a non removable battery usually have a way to do a "reset" that allows you to recover from the kind of issue you are talking about; I had a gflex 1, and it had a non removable back, and there was a key combination that would do sort of a "hard" reset, that would always get me out of "trouble"..

Whether the new Samsung stuff will have that too remains to be seen though!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
I would think it would have to have a reset option and or app probably has the option. Maybe need root for that though. S6 Edge needs to hurry up so I can rid of this itch. hehe
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] rosedog:
w00t Note 5 to have a MSD slot (rumored, i know, i know...)

http://au.ibtimes.com/samsung-galax...port-4k-super-amoled-display-4000-mah-battery
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] rosedog:
S6 to get removable battery and MSD slot, sort of...

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...-microSD-card-slot-but-at-a-high-cost_id67615
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] jazzmachine:
From an article that page linked to:

T-Mobile Galaxy S6 32GB: $0 down + $28.33/month x 24: $679.92

T-Mobile Galaxy S6 64GB: $99.99 down + $27.50/month x 24: $759.99

T-Mobile Galaxy S6 128GB: $199.99 down + $27.50/month x 24: $859.99

T-Mobile Galaxy S6 Edge 32GB: $0 down + $32.49/month x 24: $779.76

T-Mobile Galaxy S6 Edge 64GB: $99.99 down + $31.66/month x 24: $859.83

T-Mobile Galaxy S6 Edge 128GB: $199.99 down + $31.66/month x 24: $959.83

Approx. $100 / 32GB internal vs. $15 / 32GB microsd card.

Not only is the Active variant the most expensive (minimum $800+) but I believe(?) that only AT&T carries them (I know that was the case with the S4 Active, not sure about the 5 or 6). From my perspective, that's far more of a game-stopper than the loss or gain of any features... Locked bootloader, next to no development as it's much more of a "niche" device, and by far the worst... you freaking have to deal with AT&T! :eek:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] RaiderWill:
It's bad enough these S6's envy the iPhone 6.. and have cloned them..

But.. they also seem to want to clone the prices of the iPhone 6 as well.. :cool:

These prices are OUTRAGEOUS... and will the Galaxy Note 5 carry the $50.00 to $100.00 Premium over the S6 as has been the tradition?

These "Rip-Off" prices, (IMO).. simply make the Galaxy Note 4 shine just that much more.. ;)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] d12unk13astard:
If the galaxy note 5 has 128gb internal,SD card support + removable battery I don't care how much it will cost, I'm getting it!!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
That would be killer, plus stereo speakers and a 6" screen.

Id be sold immediately

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Jammol:
Lol, I have the same 64GB card for past 6 years now. I probably just jinxed myself! Lol.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Lol....yes....dont say that out loud!

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Jammol:
I will say though, that I definitely see sdcards being phased out in the short coming years. Everything will most likely be cloud related soon. I don't like but it just seems that its the direction things are going. Makes me wonder when The Matrix will occur, or even Interstellar.

We've got robots that 'learn' on their own just from observing us, literal stealth(not being able to see objects) exists, oh yeah...and we make our own particles?! Anyone remember that Corning Gorilla Glass video that was published a a year or two ago where everything glass had some kind of interface? There's already demo units in alpha stages of that. NASAs Voyager is now in OUTER SPACE(beyond our solar system), we've found the 'oldest light' in existence.....

Sorry I got carried away there....no I'm not a paranoid person. Lol.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] flexxoo:
How about if has a toilet that will be fantastic!!!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] barondebxl:
Well I was kinda hesitant on which device to get between S6/edge or back to a note 4 but after my hands on the S6/edge that's what im going for. The phone is super duper snappy, love the build, display and the size is perfect. Compared it to the note 4 in store and it sealed it for me.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nosympathy:
Going to be hard to go cloud only when everyone anymore wants to limit your data consumption. Including regular household ISP who either do or want to force data restrictions.

Highly doubt the cloud only will ever really do that and I sure hope to hell it doesn't. I am not a fan of it and I don't use it.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Nit3H8wk:
Back to the note 4

Used my jump upgrade to try the nexus 6. I played with it for a week and sent it back. The battery life was horrible. No xposed framework for 5.1 yet. Real racing 3 doesn't work on 5.1 or atleast not the nexus 6 version. 64GB is not enough space. And netflix doesn't work with miracast. The galaxy s6 is just a wannabe iclone from a company that stole tech from nvidia. Why get a 128GB s6 for 200 down on contract when you can get a iphone 6 plus 128gb for the same price. If it had an sd card slot that would be a different story. If the note 5 has an sd slot i will get one otherwise iphone it is.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] bvzxa3:
"The galaxy s6 is just a wannabe iclone from a company that stole tech from nvidia."

Get out of here...you probably have a iPhone anyway lol!!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] d12unk13astard:
Oh yea! That was my next suggestion.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Nit3H8wk:
Nope i actually have a note 4 running firekat v11. Before that an S5, G3, S4. TBH i haven't had an iphone since the 4s.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] KingBeef:
I took occasion to fiddle with both the S6 and the S6 Edge in Best Buy over the weekend, I really do not see where all those who claim it to be an iPhone clone are coming from. It looks, feels, and behaves nothing like an iDevice. I have owned both the iPhone 4 and 5 and spend a fair amount of time around individuals who own 6's or 6 Plus'. Is it just the bottom of the device? Even that is stretch, in my opinion, as there are only so many ways you can machine anodized aluminum in a given space for a speaker grill, power input, and headphone jack. Further, this isn't the first time Sammy has stuck the headphone jack on the bottom.

As to its merits, it looks like a solid device, but removable battery and expandable storage are still necessary for my use case.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] a10ciod:
Time to look to Xiaomi series.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] jazzmachine:
Please read this http://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-finally-releases-kernel-sources/ , currently featured in the portal before considering Xiaomi hardware. I posted on this earlier in the thread, but I realize that there are many who aren't aware of the consequences of GPL violations, and particularly who they are affected by them. This article explains that aspect of it much more directly. I really hope people actually take a look at the link; it's very short, but in case anyone doesn't feel like opening another tab, copy and pasted from the post (the Mi3 was released in 2013):

"Earlier this year we featured an article explaining how Xiaomi was late on their GPLv2 compliance, and how they still hadn’t released updated kernel sources for many of their devices. This transgression is not only morally and legally wrong, but it prevents our developers from modifying key aspects of Xiaomi’s phones to make our software visions come true. Moreover, this can potentially concern users wary of security backdoors and other kinds of spyware. But after a long and tedious wait full of broken promises, we get to see the kernel for the fan-favorite Mi3."
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Trev420:
checked out the s6 and edge in bestbuy today. My note 4 is lucky my girlfriend gets the upgrade this time around. This phone would be jump'ed in a heart beat.

the s6 demo units made my phone feel like a slow turd.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] glensta:
oh dam, that makes me very curious now. I'm tired of kit kat and the boring same ol same ol. I might have to go get this thing
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
Galaxy S6 vs. Note 4 Antutu Benchmark Test!

33% boost in performance vs Note 4

http://highonandroid.com/android-smartphones/galaxy-s6-vs-note-4-antutu-benchmark-test/
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] LpSk8r:
My note 4 and me are parting ways. Best phone I've ever had. Why am I going to SGE6, well because I can.

Will I get Note 5, and jump from SGE6, yep.

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
Same here brother. LoL. I'll have my S6 Edge tomorrow. Wife rolled her eyes at me and said great I have to learn a new phone again. I used her Jump on the Note 4. I told her to get her hair done. So it's all good.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
same here, should be here tomorrow!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Kil4Thril:
I'm waiting for mature ROMs. Girlfriend needs a new phone real soon. She may want my N4 and I'll get the GS6, or another 4
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] dotson817:
You can pre-order the gold platinum edition now! Also people don't forget to register for your free year of Netflix if you pre-order!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
I don't think the 32 GB Gold is avialable to pre order at least it hasn't for the last few days. I read that whatever size ya get won't ship until the 10th. Who knows though.

The fine print of the Netflix promo says the first 92,000. T-Mobile still has the promo on the website so they should honor it. imo Seems like false advertising even though what the fine print says.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] jazzmachine:
I just read the latest review of the S6(s) on Android Central, and it struck me that I've been so focused on the battery being non-removable that it hasn't even occurred to me that the battery life of that built-in battery is freaking terrible! The reviewer stated the following: "Grabbing the phone off of its charger at 8 a.m. and having it dead as a doornail at 10 p.m. — and that's on an easy day." Not particularly surprising for a 2550 mAh battery pushing a QHD display I suppose. Here's the review of which I speak http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-review
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
you dont register for a year of netflix; you have to have the phone in your hand, before april 12th

https://samsungpromotions.com/Netflix
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Trev420:
from the same article

" I can say that the Galaxy S6 is far from a battery champion — a title often tagged on the Note 4 — but it will be serviceable for most people with average smartphone habits."

"While most self-described "power users" will say that charging throughout the day is not an acceptable way to use your phone, the same isn't necessarily true of most smartphone owners. I'd say my usage is a bit heavier than the average person, and most days I could easily go to bed with battery left to spare. The other days I'd toss it on the wireless charger on my desk here and there, or if I need to know the phone is juiced up for a full night I'd plug it in for 30 minutes."

And who can honestly say they dont have atleast half an hour at some point in your day to recharge your device. And even then, portable power blocks are becoming VERY common now days.

And lets face it, an 'easy' day for those androidcentral guys is a rough day for us normal people.

Down the line with a little tweaking, the battery life should improve.

Learned my GS5 still needs 55 dollars to become eligible for my jump that im giving to my girlfriend. Also found out i have it good enough with Tmobile that they will let me add another device to my installment plan. Might be picking up two of these bad boys....
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Tiffany84:
The Gold model isn't available in 32gb. That's why it's not showing. You can only get Gold with the 64gb and 128gb versions.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] PinkPower4:
ACTIVE 6

If they come out with an Active 6 with features of s6 minus heart rate sensor, finger print scanner, and hardware buttons would that change your mind? However, it is coming out on AT&T so your customization potions are more limited. I am mostly trying to decide between these two. Thank you,
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
Booya! The S6 Edge will cost me $88 for 6 months with this $107 Netflix promo credit. Then T-Mobile pays it off and I Jump again. LoL Thanks T-Mobile/Jump/Netflix. Oh and I have Lollipop. Hehe
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
quit rubbing it in!!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Jammol:
Waste of money. I looked at it and looked back to my N4 and I felt shivers. I don't trust that phone. Definitely sticking to my N4 until the next note at least. And if the next note is anything like the S6, Samsung can kick rocks.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] LexLuger82:
How so cheap?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
32 dollars per month times 6 months until the next Jump! =192

Netflix credit for a year =107

difference = 85 dollars

I guess you could add the tax paid out of pocket if you want to get technical..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
Ehh

I don't think I am going to buy into the hype. My bill is 73 bucks with my installments and I got about 130 left on my Note 4. I will pay it off and when something comes along that blows my mind I will sell and purchase that. This whole baiting consumers into the next new thing with all these fast upgrade paths always seemed like a way to milk just a little more cash out of us.

I like having no strings and lots of options.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Archaenon:
They did indeed copy apple, the s6 is pretty ugly compared to the i6 though.

I don't hate apple personally, I have a 6 and a N4, both are great imo.

I just feel like Samsung doesn't try outside of the note series. Some folks will like the 6 like some folks like the N4, personally it's not for me, but I'd like to see if it works better then the S5.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
First person that's said the S6 is ugly. The Edge is best looking phone to day with great specs. I think I like the look of the older iPhones more then the newer ones but all that stuff is subjective.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mgbotoe:
Ya I hate the new iphone look...its just so ugly o.o

On another note, I love how this went from I will take the note over the s6 any days to....i can't wait to get my s6!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
are you getting an edge or a regular s6? the edge is gorgeous..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Coderedpl:
I 'jumped' my wife to the S6 from an S5. Holding it in hand and using it for a bit, it definitely felt nice and snappy. Going to be keeping a close eye on reviews and development community to see what happens
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mgbotoe:
I will see how's development though I'm used to the notes...so maybe note 5 edge....will get the s6 if they get stupid with note size
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
reviewers all love it, and, since all the Samsung galaxy phones have tons of dev for them, there is no reason to think this one will be any different. There is root already, just waiting for TWRP, and I'll probably root mine..

remember, it doesn't "officially" release until april 10th, so its still way early for any of that..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] daniel4653:
The one big thing , if I read correctly from an article, is that ALL S6's are going to be Exynos based. Which is the enemy of development. The Samsung phones with the most development are the Snapdragon based.

Sent from my SM-N910W8
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] ViciousLSD:
Goodbye note 4.... helloooooo s6!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] glensta:
I got my S6 Monday 4/6. So far it's really nice. Just the simple black 32gb model. Touchwiz is snappy on it. Def. notice the size step down from the note but I've done this plenty before from the Note 2 to the S3 and on. Yes I hope development kicks in being as I received it early been waiting but thats the game.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] ktetreault14:
YEESSSS!!!!! at least I know one dev is getting the S6. BTW which one are you getting? I'm thinking about the edge.

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Yeah but that's because the greatest devs had to get snappy processors because of where they lived. Now they are forced by the hand of samsung hahahaha!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mgbotoe:
haha, wait wait wait I'm not getting it...I was just saying the flow of the conversation LMAO

but if the note 5 comes out and it is way too big...I may get it :) Honestly I'm not available for jump right now anyway

I take it as you are getting it?

I wonder if I should make my INDEX for the s6..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] ktetreault14:
I'm still checking threads but I could get it tomorrow just want to make sure it's gonna have devs.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mgbotoe:
Yes I'm worry about the devs my self..no more note 4?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] ktetreault14:
Possibly
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] bvzxa3:
I like the look of the new Galaxy phones. However those of us that like our expandable storage and removable battery I now aging relics or dinosaurs for still liking those options. Having had the HTC Droid DNA, my first non-removable battery and no expansion of SD, it was annoying trying to move around data. The DNA only had 16GB with 10GB usable unless you used a CM/ASOP ROM. I had like 2GB of songs and hardly any videos on my phone. It was always scary when flashing and switching roms because I had at one point accidentally removed all the software and it was a nightmare to get it back to stock. When I got my Optimus G Pro with 32GB + expandable storage I was happy again. Sometimes pulling out the battery helps when all else fails. Now with the HTC One Max, it was decent because it did have expandable storage.

The way I see it, I'm going to keep my Note 4, and outright get the Note 5 in October. The Note 4 may be the last bastion for us dinosaurs lol!! I really do like the new Samsung design this time around.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] philliman:
I was skeptical about the storage issue until I realize I don't really need more than 64gb. My Note 4 is 32 gb and SD card is 16gb and I'm nowhere near full. Plus I won't be flashing roms or making nandroid back ups like I do with my Note 4. I always wait at least 4 to 6months before I root just in case I need to do a warranty exchange. So I decided to go with the black 64gb S6.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] barondebxl:
S6 is a monster, I think OP is all alone now lol
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] ktetreault14:
Good bye guys. Hopefully will see you on the other side. Whichever one is fine by be as long as it has am Edge ;)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] LexLuger82:
You on jump 1 plan or 2?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Coderedpl:
I got this note like two months ago and I'm already thinking about getting s6. Lol
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] daniel4653:
What I'm hoping happens with the S6 is that it will have USB otg support so you can hook up and external drive while in recovery.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] MajorTom_:
I still prefer my Note 4. Size is big factor for me. Also I don't like how the S6 looks then again I'm not a big fan of how the S series looks
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mgbotoe:
grand fathered in jump 1 :)

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Dam you just got here!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] glensta:
Installed stickmount and tried tried hooking up a couple of external hd's (My Passport 1Gb and a Toshiba Canvio 2Gb) to my S6, the phone won't read them and ended up rebooting over and over. Uninstalled stickmount and tried again, this time no reboots but still won't read the drives. My guess is the external drives require too much juice? Who knows.

I tried 2 usb drives (A 32Gb and a 64Gb) both worked fine.....I'd guess a 128Gb usb would work fine too.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] s1lenz:
I got the 32gb edge but im really close to taking it back. I dont know if I got a bad unit but the battery life is abysmal. I was out at a restaurant for 3 hours with a friend and the battery dropped 30%. I just did a reset this morning on the phone, and while the screen was on I saw it go from 93% to 92% to 91% in a matter of minutes.

The only reason(s) I'm still considering keeping it is because a) the screen is amazeballs, b) the fingerprint scanner and heartrate monitor work better then the note, and c) the samsung pay system is going to be pretty cool if they can get it up and running correctly.

I wish they would have released an S6+ :(
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mgbotoe:
S6+? You sure you don't have iPhone 6? Lol but the S6 series got battery issue...Samsung claim they working on an update
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] ktetreault14:
I know but now I am finally here to stay :D
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mgbotoe:
Wait so not getting s6?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] ktetreault14:
woops sorry for the confusion Here to stay
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] americasteam:
Not all have battery issues. [emoji6] Had 5 hours SOT on my second charge. On pace for over 6 hours today. That's with everything turned on except enhanced 4g. I actually find it better than what I was getting on my T-Mobile Note 4. AT&T user here.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] s1lenz:
lol yes i couldnt find any other way to describe it.. basically just a blown up S6 edge with the same glass on metal design language.

Oh well, I guess that will be my jump in 6 months... O_o
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] d12unk13astard:
The s6+ is the note 4 with all the extra features the s6 crippled. I swear if Sammy pulls this kind of crap on the next note the N4 will have been the last product I own from them!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] ReggieTee:
If you like Samsung phones, then you should prepare to be without either the removable battery or sdcard slot, maybe both. I really can't see leaving the Note 4 for an S6. That's a downgrade to me. Note 4 still has one of the best displays and best cameras. Why are people going to the S6? You'll be back on the Note 5 in 6 months.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] glensta:
I have high battery drain as well. Someone wrote booting into recocery and clearing cache helps alot. I tried it about 15 min's ago, we'll see but usually by now the battery would've dropped 3% and it hasn't moved yet. FWIW
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
The S6 display is sharper then the Note 4 and think the camera is too not much though. As far as why some Note 4 users are leaving to the S6. The reason why I got the Note 4 is because it wasn't another rehashed Sammy. Same goes with the S6. As far as S6 users being back with a Note 5 in 6 months well that's how some of us phone junkies /Jump works. I loved my Note 4 but I'm surprised I don't miss it after a week using my S6 Edge.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] RaiderWill:
The Fix Is Easy....

Samsung can fix the (expected ) battery issue on their S6 / S6 edge pretty easily... :cool:

Simply do what they should have done in the first place... and that's make the rear removable so their cute little 2600 mAh battery that is forced to push 577ppi of Quad-HD can get relieved of it's duties and another little fellow can go in and take it's place while it recovers...

This method sure works GREAT on the Samsung Galaxy Note 4... ;)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Flowbyte:
Blackberry devices are still the go to for government security. They have SD card slots.

I call BS on the 'security' angle. Security is predominantly software enforced.

The fact that you can interface an android device with a computer using micro USB and freely available drivers is a greater security issue than micro SD could ever be.