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[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] chriss29:
Having the issues I have mentioned above, I am completely stock, never rooted or installed recovery. So phone is untouched. I didn't want to mess with it because I thought it may cause issues receiving future OTA updates

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Yeah, the Amazon app problem was really a pain. I ended up uninstalling the app entirely, being fed up with the reboots it was causing. The only thing I have never tried with the phone is a factory reset, wonder if that may help in any way
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Moody66:
The gnu gpl is in the post by markmanning. It's for good reason though. Not just because Android is open source and you agree to the open source to use it. It's about privacy. Without it any company could pile spyware data stealing etc into a rom and no one would know. It's about protecting the end user.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Moody66:
"The problem comes in as the Android licensing. Google states in order for companies to use and distribute Android it has to be released openly. Even the source has to be released. If not they are in violation of Google's terms of use. They did release somewhat the source for 4.3. Not correctly. But the hush hush nonsense with L is pushing the boundaries.".

Do you see anywhere where I said they should release the source for the beta test?
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] rdbud:
If you don't think they should release the source, then why is the hush hush nonsense pushing boundaries? What are you even arguing for at this point?
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Moody66:
MOST companies want people talking about up and coming things. It's a selling feature. You don't keep people in the dark about your product. Common sense business practice.... After the uproar about these particular phones even more so. The previous source is useless in its current form. Try compiling it yourself and see what you get. It won't be a flashable rom. This was an attempt to break into the US market. Market share. Lack of openness won't help that. What does 20 people testing accomplish? Very little at best. Why tell those 20 or so not to say anything about thier experience with it? Makes no sense whatsoever.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Borghi:
Obviously Huawei has missed an opportunity to build trust in the US market AGAIN!. They have had 8 months to debug 5.0 on this phone and they waited until the last possible minute to start work on it. I have no doubt that they will miss their commitment to update our phones in the first half of 2015. They really need to hire a US business consultant to help them understand how the US market works. This will be publicized all over the Android news sources and this is clearly NOT going to help Huawei build a business in this country.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] ElCid43:
I agree. I was at the top of the list to test, was accepted and then left out. I thought this was basically ready for primetime (according to Huawei rep) but needed some fine tuning. That appears not to be the case.

I believe that they have good intentions but the way things are handled are leaving a bad taste.....follow through is important. It just seems to be misstep after misstep.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] rdbud:
That's fair enough. I will certainly not defend how they've handled this phone, and their entry into the US market in general. And I will certainly think twice before buying another Huawei product based on my experience.

That being said, there's really not much to tell anyway. They have an update. It's got some bugs. We're reporting them. They thank us for reporting them and say they're working on fixing those bugs.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] 4L0M:
The thing about you all arguing about Huawei support in the US in my opinion ( bearing in mind I'm in the UK and own a different variant), is that I bet the Ascend Mate 2 sold very poorly in the US. This forum has got to be one of the LEAST active dedicated device forums on the entirety of XDA.

You were told you were getting Lollipop..... You are getting Lollipop..... So it may be a month late. Big deal.

A lot of other phone manufacturers are late with updates. Not all, but a lot.

For a phone that like I said probably sold pretty poorly, you should be thankful they are still giving you the update.

I'm sure that if Huawei don't crack the US market, they won't be losing too much sleep about it.

As for the post above, in my opinion, Samsung make THE dullest android phones on the market. They have zero imagination.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Moody66:
Actually is sold quite well. The reason for the lack of posts is due to the fiasco Huawei generated announcing there would be NO updates not long after releasing the device. And there was a HUGE uproar from the people that invested in it. Obviously you haven't followed the subject. Google mate 2 update and look. It was more than a dropped ball.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Iguanadon:
could you please link me to the source for verizon builds of android?
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Moody66:
Verizon doesn't make phones.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] ElCid43:
I totally agree that none of this matters 40LM but it must be taken in context. Ultimately, this is just a stupid toy and will get updated. My problem is getting told one thing and a whole host of others things happening.....over and over.

Also, I would think that a country of 300 million plus consumers with arguably the largest economy in the world would be on Huawei or any corporation's list to crack, especially when you have let it be known that you want to be number one in the world. Crap, even F1 knew it needed to be here!

Again, take this all in context because ultimately it doesn't really matter.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] :
Thread cleaned a bit folks.

Let's keep posts respectful. Also, let's keep them constructive. There's an off topic section on XDA if the need arises. :good:

Keep it civil and on point please.

Thanks,

Darth

Forum Moderator
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] spooky_ghosty:
I also have the European version of the mt2 l02, I got it with an UK plug so they gave me an adaptor as I live in Romania. Do you think our version will ever get Lollipop ?! Mine came with 4.4 out of the box
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] medwatt:
For all those pre pre testers . . . do you have any news for us ?
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Moody66:
They have posted a list of all the phones getting L.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] kimtyson:
I had posted several times with updates and our illustrious Moderator deleted them. Not sure if he didn't like my info about Lollipop or if it was because I was having an alternate view from Moody. Funny thing is that Moody's comments survived, mostly. Oh well. That's life in a forum I guess. Not my place to question the mod.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] rekamyenom:
I was signed up as a beta tester from day one, I have a HAM2, as well as six others I have using one, so far still nothing from Huawei to test with.

Holding breath

EDIT: Exhailing, Got v. B308 on my phone as a daily driver, with no issues so far and battery life is as normal, kick ass!
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Moody66:
Or a dev. Probably get done faster that way.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] rdbud:
If you scroll up the thread, you can find out how to get into the private testing group.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] pucherto123:
https://community.gethuawei.com/mate_2_android_l_fut/f/50/t/1398
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] ElCid43:
If being added to the "unofficial" Hangouts group is the way to get in, that irritates me even more. All of this was supposed to be handled through the official FUT forum and blog. Not surprised at all though.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] kimtyson:
The Hangout is just an UNOFFICIAL way that we communicate with fellow FUTers. There are many of us that are connected with the FUT. If you are having issues , perhaps the FUT is not for you. That said, we are still waiting for the external release of the FUT. And it has been too long, in my opinion.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] ElCid43:
My issue is having signed up as it opened, being told that I was going to the receive the rom to test and then being left out for others that signed up later. I understand how it all works. My problem is how it is being handled. I understand before you received the early build you were rather unamused by the situation. Hope you undererstand where I am coming from. I am actually almost at the point of not caring anymore anyway
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] spooky_ghosty:
I never got to see it. Do u have a li k or can you post a list with all the MT2's that r getting the updates? Thanks ;)
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] rekamyenom:
EDIT: Got it now, B308 HAM2-L-5.1. SWEEEET!
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] pucherto123:
Weird....it's working for me
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] rdbud:
If it's not valid, it means you are either not logged in or were not added to the FUT. Use another window to log in then try again.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] medwatt:
I got the same error and I have been signed-up from day 1. We only have 13 days till the end of the protracted "first half of the year" release and the beta ROM is still not available. That's 6 months folks !!
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] rdbud:
Not signed up, logged in to the forums. It's a private forum so if you're not logged in, you can't access it. Log into the forums at community.gethuawei.com. Click on Community Groups. If you signed up successfully to the FUT, there will be a group at the bottom called "Mate 2 Android L FUT" (if it's not there, you didn't sign up correctly). Click it and you'll find the thread.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] kimtyson:
There was a simple process to get the build that we are testing. I don't know if you did that and were told no, or if you never messaged Taylor for it. I totally get that you are unhappy that we still don't have the early release ROM that we were to test. I am also not happy about that. I agree that they could have handled it better. They should have waited to announce the FUT until they actually had the ROM available for everyone to test. Yes, I was very unhappy and voiced my concerns. Perhaps that is part of the reason that we all had a chance to get our hands on the file that we were given. So, if I came across as not caring about your displeasure, then that was not my intention.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] ElCid43:
Yeah, I signed up and got a PM from Taylor and that was the last I heard. I am actually over it as I realize how silly this is. To be honest, I think the whole forum/FUT sign-up was a way to buy time and save some face for Huawei. Just my worthless opinion, of course!
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] medwatt:
Indeed, it was Huawei's way to buy time . . .
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] ScoobSTi:
They still have about 2 weeks to deliver with their promise.

They HAVE to get this right. If they don't, how will they expect to sell a Nexus/succeed in the West? Google probably wouldn't work with them ever again.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] p51d007:
IF they do release it before July 1, I'll leave it to you guys to try it. If it is deemed stable, I MIGHT give it a go, but (at least for me)

it's working so well right now, I really hate to monkey around with it.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] rdbud:
You don't say?
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] kimtyson:
I'm pretty sure that's a link to a private forum so if you were not invited to be in the forum then the link would not work.

It is totally untrue that "they are NOT releasing a beta or any other HAM2-L". I am running their test 5.1 on my HAM2 right now. It gets better with every version. I am now using it for my daily driver. Stop spreading false rumors, please.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] rekamyenom:
....EDIT: I have it now if anyone wants it. It's awesome!
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] rdbud:
Yeah, you might want to check this out.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] rekamyenom:
EDIT: Got it now, if anyone wants it.

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Do you have an official copy from Huawei?
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] rdbud:
Be honest - did you read the link? Post a comment and they'll hook you up.

Yes, I'm running it on my phone. Why do you have 8 phones?
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] rekamyenom:
Got Beta Lollipop 5.1 B308 on my Device, Works Great! No Bugs that I can see so far. If anyone wants it I can share it with you via Google Drive (need your gmail address). You must have this on your phone for the next update which will be OTA. The HAM2-L-5.1 is AWESOME !!!! I will report any bugs and Battery life.

**WARNING THE BETA 5.1 WILL WIPE YOUR PHONE SO BACK IT UP IF YOU NEED ANY OF YOUR ******
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] rdbud:
Well forgive me for asking, since the link specifically said the software is available, you just have to comment. Yet you "can not seem to get a confirmation from Huawei that an Official Beta actually has already been released for testing." I guess you can split hairs and say that it's not an Official Beta, but there it is, on their website.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] ScoobSTi:
Wait, we're getting 5.1 instead of 5.0? This actually sounds like Huawei is doing good for us.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] p51d007:
I signed up for that, but didn't make the cut I guess, no biggie. Thanks for testing it out, pretty stable by now?
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] medwatt:
Personally, I don't believe anything of this. Its too hushed up for my liking. There's not even a single screenshot around of Lollipop on the HAM2. The only reason we have to believe that Lollipop is on its way is from a bunch of guys on this forum who for all intents and purposes might be covert employees from Huawei. Yes, I am skeptical !
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Alucai Vivorvel:
I know this isn't what you're looking for but I asked Huawei if it was actually coming and they said yes, so... Take that as you will.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] rekamyenom:
I guess what I was trying to get at was, did this Beta that is floating around, originate from Huawei's R&D team or is it simply a port from another device. I have no problem with either, just like to know what we are dealing with. No biggy.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Moody66:
I think this thread proves one thing. Huawei has much to learn. And probably cost more customers than they gained. At least from Mate 2 owners.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] :
Here is something you guys can try out:

MT2-L03 Device Tree

Setting Up Compile Environment for Omnirom

Building TWRP Guide

Feel free to challenge yourselves :)
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] ScoobSTi:
What if we have absolutely no experience or knowledge of this stuff? :p You know, which is why no one one here has done this stuff.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Moody66:
It probably is from Huawei. They just haven't figured out how to communicate properly. There has been trust issues with them for some time. They are supposedly making the next Nexus device. If you Google it and look at the posts on the articles you will see many saying they won't be buying one due to the fact they don't trust Huawei. There method of testing here is just an example of why that trust doesn't exist. Having Google behind the Nexus line may help build that. Slowly. Time will tell.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] :
Simonsickle was the main developer for the K2_CL (HTC One SV Boost Mobile variant). He eventually moved on to big and better things and at the time TWRP needed to be updated. No one had experience, the community of that device was shrinking and even myself had never once built TWRP or anything else for that matter at that time. I decided to step up to the plate and teach myself. My first TWRP build took me three days to figure out and successfully compile. Then I practically redid the device tree for that device and made it compatible again. Since then, I decided to expand my mind. Hence my original XDA name, Modding.MyMind, before the recent name change.

A lot of this stuff isn't as complicated as it may seem. It's just a matter of learning, and going through trial and errors. Even at first when you may be successful you will not always understand how it all works, but over time it becomes a second language.

Give it a go. Even if you have no experience you can figure it out just as I once did.

Nobody comes here to XDA and "knows everything" :)

Think of someone with no experience with development as a child. They lay, then begin to crawl, and before you know it they are going from walking to running.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] kimtyson:
I'm not sure how, or why, some folks seem to be left out of the testing. Personally, I think it is YOU and not Huawei that is preventing you from getting to the files. I've already said more than I should. Doubt if you want. But I don't make stuff up.

And I don't work for Huawei.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] ElCid43:
I don't think that you understand that only a small handful that had signed up received and early build to test...I believe this is where a lot of confusion between the "haves" and "have nots" is coming from. The communication from Huawei's end tends to be confusing, and I think that is where there biggest problem lies. They mean well and are good intention-ed but aren't the best with PR. Perhaps there issues between the home office and the US office where things get a bit lost in translation, who knows?

At any rate, if you originally signed up like me and are waiting to hear about the upgrade...check the blog for some good news :p
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] MikeyLee:
This link doesn't work. I signed up for the Beta too on the first day they took signs ups on the forum and before Taylor stated he has signed everyone up who requested it prior to his post and I have yet to receive anything from anyone. That's ****ty for him to say he signed everyone up when he really did not

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Can you post the correct blog link? I signed up here https://community.gethuawei.com/sup...i-mate2-android-l-friendly-user-test#pi558=44 just like everyone else and Taylor posted at one point that he added everyone who did post for testing. Never heard anything else and he hasn't posted on there since. If there is some other magical blog or thread besides this one please post it because any other links that people are saying we should check out do not come up with anything
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] ElCid43:
I would send Taylor a private message to be sure you were added....the other forum/ blog is private so a link probably won't work. Sure he can help.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] tomlogan1:
Sign up link for Huawei Android Mate 2 uptate

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1FPirPNPHv_I1KI39jLx3zOi3Lr9kLKL49CJsGt_uoFs/viewform?c=0&w=1
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] kimtyson:
If you are signed up then go here, https://community.gethuawei.com/mate_2_android_l_fut/b/weblog. There is a Blog, and Forums, and an Issue Tracker. Look toward the top.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Moody66:
If I remember correctly the ROM to be tested still hasn't been released to the testers. Just some variant of it. Probably plenty of time to add more that wish to test.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] :
Every Rom released is for testing for the testers, otherwise, it wouldn't be a Rom lol. Just like when CM or Omnirom is built by a freelance developer and there is instabilities to be tweaked ;). The testing is to improve the Rom prior to the official release. Started on 5.0, but they bumped to 5.1 since testing is going well. That, and merging 5.1 to 5.0 wouldn't be difficult given their similarities from the original AOSP. :)
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Moody66:
As per the previous post. Is in reference to that. Two separate roms maybe.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] :
Ah, I see, well, nobody honestly knows what is going on with that situation. In my personal opinion, they allotted a specific number of slots to prevent a wildfire of unofficial releases to the public. Given that their are testers and company personnel working on this project, it really isnt necessary to hand out the Rom to every single soul. Though, maybe the official reps could mention this to ease some peoples minds it would still in my opinion be common sense regardless.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Moody66:
I am curious why they didn't do what other makers have done. A soak test. Of course then they wouldn't get the feedback.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] :
That would probably be why.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Moody66:
Let's hope in the future they ay least become more open to devs. Like here at xda. If they are going to indeed make the next Nexus device its going to happen with or without them. Personally I see any device maker that is fully open to devs having full access as more sales for them. I know there are many people that look at xda to see if there are custom roms before buying a phone.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] :
They are working on becoming dev friendly. Just new to the west hemisphere is all. The last XDA community get together that took place, Huawei Employees attended and was handing out free devices. That's how people like Dees_Troy and many others got their hands on it.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Moody66:
Ya I think that's how Tom Marshall got his too.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] :
Exactly, and mdmower lol
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] ScoobSTi:
Samsung or Apple would never do that. I agree that Huawei has good intentions, or so it seems... it just sucks that they can't communicate properly.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Moody66:
Neither of those are working to gain footholds. So no reason for them to do that really. They are established here. Not gonna comment on Apple. Lol I don't care for them is all will sy there . lol sorry.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] :
It's pretty clear a Mod is watching this thread closely lol. Comments keep getting deleted everytime I log back on to check progress ha!
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] pucherto123:
Wait.....what? Did you say something inappropriate? I heard some one else's post got deleted too
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] :
Not that I am aware of but who am I to question a Mod :D
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] kimtyson:
I must be speaking out of school because my stuff keeps getting deleted. So, no more comments from me for now. Not on this subject, at least.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] :
Check your messages :)
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] kimtyson:
Check YOUR messages. lol
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Iguanadon:
Both of you check your messages lol :D

I don't know if this has been answered but any builds thus far are internal builds.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] kimtyson:
Correct. Very close to external build release.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] tomlogan1:
Beta Program

Huawei has been very gracious in supplying beta code to anyone who bothered to register. It is not final or it would be released, I'm sure, with a lot of press releases. I don't believe there is a deadline to register and try it out for your self.

I'll not go into specifics, but I am sure it is close based upon my own experience.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Alucai Vivorvel:
So, if I want to register, and I have already modified my build.prop on my current 4.3 to change the DPI, do I have to reverse that and maybe uninstall the Xposed framework first?
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] medwatt:
Can any of the lollipop testers record a video of the HAM2 running L and upload on Youtube. That, I think, will help quench our doubts.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] tomlogan1:
Better still, register yourself and download the code. You can try it and revert back to JB if you wish. Heck, I might just make a video showing a HAM2 running VMware. Only way to be 100% is to try it yourself.

Unless you are afraid.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] medwatt:
I've registered from day 1 and I check my messages every day. I entered my imei and all. But not a single message received so far.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] Alucai Vivorvel:
I registered a few hours ago. Or at least, I left a comment on the post where they said to do that... And where dozens of people had commented months before without a response.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] medwatt:
Check the attached picture.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] tomlogan1:
Try again

I just got the phone two weeks ago and registered. I had to then send a note saying I realized the risk and was willing to wipe the phone. I got a link to the firmware and installed in for testing.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] kimtyson:
We have been asked not to discuss what we have right now. So, a video is totally out of the question. It would be disrespectful to Huawei and the guy (Taylor) who has put trust in us.

You are free to doubt all you want. You will come to see the light eventually, Maybe even in a week or so.