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[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] istperson:
1. A lot of people here on XDA believe that's TW that severely cripples phones.

2. This thread is about custom roms for the S6

3. How lucky for us, there are no public executions for those who want to mod their Samsung phones

4. But you're right, S6 + exynos = iPhone of Android, no modded phones
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ¿Will-it-Blend?:
1. In times past I could agree with you. With the note 4 and S6 it really is great. (Opinions though)

2. Never said it wasn't.

3. What? You can mod all you want, just know there are limitations here.

4. The S6 can be modded, just not to the level that you seem to want. I think the S6 is more about following the iPhone model of 'it just works', however.

As I said before, if people don't like it then they'll have to buy something else. I'm just being realistic.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Goldie:
Your posts go from one point to another. What actually do you think?

Touchwiz crippling phones is a throwback from old samsungs. With the roms available now or just root you can remove as much or as little as you like.

Touchwiz also has the same mods as CM etc.

By buying the s6 you don't lose out on anything you would have on any other device. So....what's your point exactly?
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] istperson:
2. No, you just said if you dare to mod it, better buy another phone, because modding is crippling the phone, which is a sacrilege.

3. People know that.

Realistically people will not buy this phone if they want to mod it.

Edit: which affects the sales too. Last year Samsung couldn't sell the S5-s because they were too similar to the S4. And now the S6 lags behind Apple because if people want an iPhone then they buy an original.

Give a bigger battery, an SD card slot, open up the architecture and there's no better hardware on the market. But until then the Note 4 is the best phone now.

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It's obvious, you never used cyanogenmod, and I mean used in a sense that not just adding apps, typing on social media and answering calls. If you would have used it, the security/privacy settings, the available source you can always revise for your taste, and the speed it can achieve, then you wouldn't be so willing to give it up.

Maybe after the warranty period ended, and when Samsung stops updating it to boost the sells of the new models, but it's good to know your phone can mean more then just expensive scrap metal.

But perhaps you'll throw it out and buy the most fashionable model.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ¿Will-it-Blend?:
I used CM for a while back on my S3, and while it had some nice features here and there, it was too much of a buggy mess to continue using. Even with a snapdragon processor and tons of support. Features that used to work would suddenly crash the device for no reason, i would have inexplicable battery drain on certain days, updates would usually break features that worked perfectly before, there where usually security exploits (because it's custom firmware) that would of course have to be patched, random reboots, and let's not forget the crappy camera software. I tried a plethora of AOSP ROMS after that, all with the seemingly the same issues, and i just got sick of it. If you THINK CM or any AOSP ROM will benefit this phone, you are sadly mistaken.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Goldie:
Lol. I used cm on devices. It just doesn't last long on Samsung ones cos so much doesn't work that makes a Samsung a Samsung.

App ops gives me all the security and privacy I need and speed is plenty.

To go back to the point of the thread....Exynos does not mean no custom roms because the roms that will give you your full functionality PLUS the cm mods stuff AND privacy (should you be of paranoid inclination) are Samsung based one's.

And source you can revise...I will revise to my taste with or without it thanks [emoji14]
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ¿Will-it-Blend?:
Exactly, and with the material themes coming to the theme store, you can have all that with a Stock Android look. AOSP offers NOTHING for this phone. But i digress... I'm getting too OT.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] istperson:
Okay, I get it:

So people are stupid if they say that Touchwiz is a laggy mess, because it maybe was the truth for the S, S II, and S3, but since the Note 4 it's the best a phone can get.

So people are stupid if they say that cyanogemod is

not

a buggy mess, because that was the truth for the S, S II, S3, so it's impossible it has improved since for the Note 3 and Note 4.

:D

Really, people, I've had Samsung phones since my Omnia, and Touchwiz phones since my Spica in 2010. I've used my Note 3 unrooted for a whole year before I tried cm. You really think I would use cm for daily driver just to spite you two?
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Goldie:
No. We don't.....all we are saying is CM isn't the only choice anymore. Our apologies if that offends you.

So...how is CM on your s6?
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] istperson:
Oh really? Then I apologize, I have mistakenly read, that everything that is not Touchwiz cripples the phones.

Can't tell you for now, ask me in a year. Or two. Or three...
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Goldie:
Why's that?
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] istperson:
Well, I think it's obvious, but if you do need help, then:

S6 = Exynos

Exynos = no ROM from source

no ROM from source = no updates past last Samsung update

no ROM from source = no cyanogenmod

no cyanogenmod = so far skip this Samsung phone*

* no sd card + no (removable) battery = no Samsung phone (IMHO)
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] virulentt:
I have to admit that i am a big CM fan. I do think TW got a lot better since Samsung updated it for Lollipop. However, on the S6, memory management is a huge problem, and it seems to have remained the same with the 5.1.1 update (T-Mobile). Almost everything we've expected from the 5.1.1 update has been ignored.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Goldie:
I still dont get your point and I would ask politely that you stop with the tone...

So you are saying there is no CM on S6 and probably never will be because too much stuff will be broken. And the OP is asking if Exynos means no custom ROMs. To which the answer is that there ARE custom ROMs that give just as much privacy, security, modification, themeing and size (should you choose to debloat) as AOSP but they are Samsung based and not CM for the reasons you stated above.

Unless you are just using this thread as a place to vent your hatred for Touchwiz I guess his question is answered :)
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ¿Will-it-Blend?:
Lol, where did I call anyone stupid? You're just putting words in my mouth to try a justify your failed logic. Just stop... please.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] istperson:
I might have simplified it a bit, but you do use one more too often the word: cripple. And this

My tone? You really should have read this thread before trying to destroy me with your "arguments".

Secondly, I don't have anything against Touchwiz, and apart from the last 8 months I've been using Touchwiz on my phones, so wrong there too.

And thirdly, while I don't want to say that modding stock roms is not a good thing to do, or without benefit, they only last while the manufacturer has will to update theirs to new Android versions. Take for instance an S II. My daughter has inherited my and now has KitKat 4.4.4 on it. It works fine, instead of the 4.1.2 from almost two years ago. If it weren't for cyanogenmod, then it would be a dead phone with no chance of bugs fixed ever.

Some people don't throw they used phones away like soiled diapers, and what would you suggest for those for their three year old S6-s in 2018?
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
This thread has sure given me some good laughs but seriously guys your arguing... On the internet no less about a phone.

Really? A few of you are vets here, one a software engineer and look at the crap you have added to this thread. Cmon...your all better than that right?

I'm amazed the mods haven't stepped in yet...

current devices: Nexus 6, Note 4, 3, 2, S3, OneX+
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Goldie:
Destroy you? Seriously man...chill out! :p

Mods are really not needed. It is possible for people to have a debate without someone calling moderators!! This is, after all, a forum for discussion of phones
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ¿Will-it-Blend?:
Just a good ole Internet debate man. Why call the mods? We are discussing things in regard to what the OP wrote, without vulgar language or name calling (for the most part).
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
I wouldn't call the mods, no need they monitor these things anyway.

Have fun lol

current devices: Nexus 6, Note 4, 3, 2, S3, OneX+
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matheus_sc:
i really is a fan of aosp roms, i have moto maxx until a month ago, now i buy a s6, and with material theme i get more perfomance than my moto maxx(same hardware of n6) and much better camera and screen, if dont get aosp i dont be angry, exynos is much more cooler than snap 805 and more stable too.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Obagleyfreer:
I agree with what you are all saying about AOSP not bringing anything that TW based ROMs can't offer.

However there is one thing that I REALLY miss about AOSP and that is the ability to adjust screen DPI easily.

Of course you can adjust it in TW , and for the most part it work but the Stock Dialer and Camera app just don't play nicely with anything other than stock DPI.

I find the stock DPI far too large and is not very pleasing to the eye at all.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cooldato:
I did read few posts and I dont get it... Why the hell do you guys buy Note 4 then? or S6? To install CM/AOSP like ROMs and losing alot of good stuff?

Ofcourse Touchwiz sometimes can be annoying but, remove bloatware + use different launcher :) Losing all of Samsung's rich soft/options is just meh XD

Go buy cheap Nexus 4 then and enjoy "clean android" :D
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AJ:
for me , i bought the s6 for the great hardware , no the sucky software , Nexus hardware suck for the most part ,

and when you have a great hardware you want a great software to run on it , that's why i like AOSP .
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cooldato:
Well, for me having Note4/ S6 and saying a NO to Samsung's Smart/Swipe functions/software/Features doesnt fit well :D Also losing stylus' features is just mehhh XD

For sure CM like roms are faster but well, having way less functionality :X

Just my opinion / taste :)
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Goldie:
I would say software that breaks great hardware is not so great [emoji14]
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AJ:
lol

why are on XDA then ??
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Docmjldds:
Spent the last 45 minutes reading every post on this thread. Well said. The S6 has superior hardware to any other Android phone I have ever used/owned/rooted, whatever. Now with deodexed 5.1.1 and your soon to be released Framework 1.2.1 I know I will be one happy camper and more than happy to throw additional support your way for sticking with the S6. :cool::good::good:
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Goldie:
Huh? I don't get your point? To provide mods that don't break stock functionality would be the answer though
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matheus_sc:
Besides of all, i see at least 4 devs working in aosp, maybe some day can comes.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ¿Will-it-Blend?:
Trust me, this phone will be stuck in AOSP development hell. You may get some builds that you can play around with, but if you need your phone to work... well, I'm quite sure you've read through this thread already.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matheus_sc:
Yes i already have another exynos device, but for now device is really fast and Samsung put material design theme, there no much things in aosp than dont have in tw now.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akapu01:
Just one thing... I don't like samsung's Notification panel... it is same as KK.. no Lollipop animation goodie...?
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mythos234:
Well, no. Stuck for a while here and there? Yeah, definately. Will it be frustrating at times? Probably.. But the statement that "You may get some builds that you can play around with, but if you need your phone to work..." is just not right, sorry... Please visit the Note4 subforum and take a look at the N910C's CM development. You'll find a Rom which is very close to becoming a daily driver ;)

Something becomes impossible when you go into that "impossible-mindset". Which is why we're building with the attitude of "we can do it" instead. So, lets not jump to conclusions about the possibility of this project just yet.

Instead of saying how impossible it is, support us :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3153982
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cooldato:
Yeah, the new Touchwiz performs very well, alot faster compared to old versions.

I dont see the need of AOSP roms :X Samsung's soft is just amazing by its finctionality/features.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AO7:
Haven't seen this mentioned yet so here goes: many people used to buy Samsung and then flashes AOSP because they like AOSP, but also need a removal battery and external SD card. Neither of those can be found on the Nexus line.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theronlas:
So why pick an S6 then, since it has neither.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markhimself:
I, for one, can not wait until there is some form of AOSP/CM ROM for the S6. I upgraded to the S6 from the Note 4 - on which I was running CM12.1 - it was absolutely amazing, the only feature I lost was fingerprint, which was not such a bad tradeoff for the performance that I had from CM. HTC Camera fixed any woes of running CM instead of TW. I can't stand TW on the S6 - the Memory Leak issue is unbearable.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Goldie:
Ahahahaha! Good point! :D
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AO7:
Hence why I said people used to do that.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gboss01:
Just read through this entire thread, some very interesting points on all sides.

Being a fan of AOSP and having come from an Exynos S4 I know full well the effects AOSP has on the functionality of an Exynos device.

RIL battery drain, random reboots, FC's, losing audio etc - I quite enjoyed working with the Devs to iron out these bugs with CM on the S4.

It took almost 2 years before we had a stable CM rom 5.0.2 that I used as my daily driver.

Before I would use CM ROM's for a few weeks before getting tired of the bugs and going back to TW.

I always missed the customization options in CM that were not available in the S4 TW ROM's.

Right now my S6 is running XtreStoLite 5.1.1 with Material theme and I don't miss AOSP at all.

I can't wait for [MENTION=3065070]Goldie[/MENTION] to get Alliance Framework working on 5.1.1 and then all the customizations will be there.

All being said, I would still love to try AOSP/CM on my S6 :D
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Isus <3:
If touchwiz with all the bloat runs so smooth on S6, image clean AOSP android run on S6, it would fly like no other phone, thats why I want AOSP. I WANT MY PHONE TO BE FAST without stupid memory managment issues and ****ty samsung unnecesary apps....
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kmiloxdxd:
a clean image of AOSP is not a smooth system because it needs drivers, tweaks, init.d tweaks, etc it needs a lot of development to run "stable".

i agree the stupid memory magamenet issues and i hope AOSP come to our S6 but it will need a lot of development to run fast, with no bugs, stable. and developement = time .
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gekkehenkie11:
This probably will never happen. There is no 64 bits device (HAL etc) sourcecode for Exynos available. So if you want AOSP, sell your S6, simple as that.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fritsypeij:
Meizu just announced its new flagship phone, the Meizu Pro 5. It runs Flyme OS 5 (based on Android 5.1) and has the Exynos 7420 chipset. I hope this contributes to the development of new AOSP / CM roms! And does this mean something?
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sieerra:
I was thinking the same, flyme os is Exynos friendly and love to have it on my S6.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] istperson:
Exactly. And it shows in the sales.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] istperson:
And what happens when Samsung stops updating your S6 in late 2016? Will you be able to patch the current exploit like the Stagefright 2.0 now? Can you do more than just recompiling the java code? What will you suggest those who use your mod, but to jump ship?
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyan2011:
Hey,

I have the One M8 and i was thinking about the M9 mainly for the battery.

I bought my One M8 about 7 months back and I've have been having the worst battery life. I get about less than 3 hours of OST (ON Screen Time) it won't go beyond that and I loose about 40~50% of battery in 5 or 6 hrs of standby time. Hell, this one day I charged my phone to it's maximum by 2pm and after listening to music for about 6 hours. I lost about 70% battery with 40min SOT with no call or texting.

Clearly something is wrong here. But... I don't know, maybe it's the LTE network or I was a Note 3 user before I got the M8. Maybe the 2days battery life spoilt me because according to Gsam

-battery life is 1d 1.8h (6h 23m active)

-screen On: 1h 46m (1h 44m MAX)

PS: I'm sorry I couldn't post any posts any screenshots. My phone is 100% charged as of now.

I tried everything from going to stock to custom ROM to different kernels. Turning OFF Google services (Google Now and location reporting), turning OFF mobile data, disabling sync, no GPS, brightness set to 20%, killing media server, greenify system apps and even maintaining the wakelocks using Amplify battery extender and even reading a lot of post on XDA to save battery. I still loose a lot of power.

Is this what 2600mAh has to offer.

Will the new 2,840mAh with 810 processor be any different.

Or should I just send my M8 for repair and hope I don't end with up a refurbished phone because I've had a lot of bad experience with a refurbished phones. I don't wanna do that mistake again.

Or should I get the Nexus 6 and get this over with.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Verrocio:
Nope.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyan2011:
Thanks for the quick reply, but can you be a bit more specific.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kemal:
looks like you're having problems with your battery. did you try changing it? these are the worst battery performances i've ever seen with one m8. something's wrong here but it's not about the phone. it's about your phone.

and i think m9 will have great battery performance as it seems to me.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PlatinumNick:
I personally believe the M9 will have one of the best batteries in a phone in 2015 everything is lining up to be that way. and something has to be wrong with your phone you need to check that out asap.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yatindroid:
Do a battery test

if after 1 hr it below than 70% it's not good according to htc
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajtauro:
You could try turning on Power Saver mode, it may help you out. But personally, even with Power Saver off, I can easily get 4+ hours of SOT on campus with my battery going from 12 AM to around 10:30 PM and still having about 30% at the end of the day.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hgoldner:
Just for battery life? Nope. For a better camera, better speakers, better screen, better CPU, better GPU, Sense 7, and other under-the-hood improvements AND for a better battery than the battery in your older M8, yes, it's worth it.
[MX Player] Elipso:
Dobry den.... chcel by som sa spytat že podla čoho zistim aky codec si mam stiahnut. Dakujem
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jizang:
Hi Guys

I have the European version of the Note 4 with Snapdragon processor,and was thinking about rooting my phone,but before that I wantedt to ask if there are any updates on rooting without loss of warranty I could not find anything helpfull on the internet. Hope someone here can help me
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mariosraptor:
Not possible yet
[Galaxy S6 General] croatia1:
So I found this Austrian page where you can pre-order the new devices and get a Wireless Charging pad for free.

Galaxy S6 - 32 GB

S6 - 64 GB

S6 - 128 GB

S6 edge - 32 GB

S6 edge - 64 GB

S6 edge - 128 GB

In my opinion are the 849€ too much for a 32 GB S6 edge, although I fell in love with this device, it's just way too much money and I don't want Samsung to think, that we're like the Apple fanboys, who pay a lot of money for nothing.
[Galaxy S6 General] riz157:
Far too pricey I hope people vote by not buying mind you iPhones are a rip off too which sell like hot cakes.
[Galaxy S6 General] tft:
that's a lot of kangaroos ;)
[Galaxy S6 General] thyttel:
Way to pricy for me. I was ready to change my iPhone 6 plus which I thought were pushing it with prices but this is just getting rediculas. I don't care how nice that edge looks. That's just too pricy in my opinion. Will wait for LG and see what they do.
[Galaxy S6 General] Super Chimp:
That's a heck of markup for a curved screen!

Making the basic Edge version more expensive than the 64GB standard version wasn't very sensible.
[Galaxy S6 General] meboy:
Interesting. Thanks for posting.

For North America minus 20% vat and convert Euros to USD makes almost exactly $800 USD for the 128gb regular S6 version.

About what I would have guessed.

A 128gb card is $95 so to me $100 extra going from the 32gb to 128gb would be just fine. We'll see..
[Galaxy S6 General] Annunneo:
What the hell were they thinking removing SD card support.
[Galaxy S6 General] Towle:
It makes perfect sense from a marketing standpoint. It's called innovative pricing. Some people want the newest/coolest thing, and they are willing to pay extra for it to be an early adopter. The rumor of there being limited availability of the Edge variant is just a PR stunt to build more hype among those early adopters. Once it's in their hands, Samsung gets the 'word of mouth' advertising. All new products enter the market in phases.
[Galaxy S6 General] kolembo:
€849 *gasp*

Toooo much. I'll have to wait. Or by the Huawei P8
[Galaxy S6 General] David_freestyle:
Finally I think it'll be 699. It's expensive, but what I expected to.
[Galaxy S6 General] DextarRogue:
Well, I had planned on getting an Edge because of how good it looked but I'd rather get the 128GB vs the 32GB Edge. That's just crazy.
[Galaxy S6 General] tft:
when huawei phones come to the US later this year samsung is going to sh*t their pants and these ridiculous prices will not hold any water for long or they'll be going back to only making TVs and refrigerators..
[Galaxy S6 General] JasonJoel:
Maybe. But first they need to make a phone that I would even consider - which they don't. The Mate2 is a ridiculous size and weight, the rest all seem to be crappy bargain phones.
[Galaxy S6 General] Super Chimp:
Now tell me has Apple's huge pricing caused it to go back just making home computers due to the existence of cheaper competitors, no it hasn't, so I don't see why you think this should happen to Samsung.