yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
the focus didnt fail, its poor in z5 in lowlight.

didnt really want to compare anything, but M9 impressed me here and because its M9 photo thread its worth to highlight it among the new hyped boys. also its worth to show that Midranger A9 is keepin with the so called best camera in the market :cyclops:

its the weekend here, will post more photos inshallah

i didnt understand what you mean by 1:1 ?!
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
to view them at 100%
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
its done now Arbab

RAW M9 PSX processed
[One (M9) General] rizevnarastek:
That's some weird color fringing... From blue, to red, to green?

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
[emoji1] I can see now I don't know what is this
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
as its in the edges it looks like lens vignette correction since the edges are darker than the center lens correction lifts brightness to match center however this also increases noise ive seen that green stuff before when i pushed iso to high in an area with little light. use brush in lr or acr to selectively do more NR in those areas
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
You are right, I was pushing more iso because the area was so dark

But it's funny I was editing this photo and didn't see anything till I post it here heheh
[One (M9) General] NightShrimp515:
Thanks! This is killer, you're great man.
[One (M9) General] stinkytaco:
At a 40% discount today, do you still think this is true? I miss the HDMI out and speakers on my M7, but not enough to pay an additional $250 over the A9 I bought. This is even more true when I use the camera, which is a huge improvement over the M7. When the sale came today, I seriously considered returning the A9 and buying the M9, so much so that I posted on the A9 forms to see what people feel about their jump.

I'm really impressed by the work that's been done on the camera in this forum, but the A9 is pretty solid in auto mode and though I like the idea of shooting in manual and RAW, the reality is I'm pretty much going to shoot in auto.
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
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i agree, i have them both, cant really see anything better in my M9, not feeling the midrange processor in A9, its fast and MM is doing great job

i bought 64 micro SD extreme pro, man its blazing faaaast:cowboy:

only 1 thing keeps me holding my M9 in my hand more hours a day than the A9 (its the front facing speakers)

but many things makes me wanna pull A9 from my pocket over the M9

camera

Fingerprint

the nice display (and soft glass far less fingerprints)

light weight and comfortable buttons

aaah htc M10 should rock s820, and pls pls i pray to keep the normal usb we dont want that usb c, we want to use our accessories, poer bank sd on the go and many
[One (M9) General] Mostafa Wael:
Yes i agree with the usb-c thing, it is useless! If my M9 had the usb-c then my USB OTG would have been immediately rendered useless!! Anyway, about that comparison of yours between M9 and A9, i would like to wait till MM arrives to the M9 so we have a clearer point of view and therefore a fairer comparison (camera excluded of course :D )
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
There is nothing I am comparing could be changed in MM for M9

I said amoled + gorilla g 4+ fps along with light weight and buttons combination.

I hope but I don't think that htc will improve M9 camera in MM, it's already Allright for non ois device to perform this way.

I don't want to get into crappy s810 discussion, I said it before I am not heavy gamer so I don't feel the processor if it's mid or high, I just want to do my tasks smoothly. No heat, no issues out of the box

You know, I've learned one thing this year, the hardest wait is when you wait for update fixes. [emoji1]
[One (M9) General] Sinistertensai:
"Vacation"
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
UAE National day by Omran Jumah, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
awesome ride aside ;) this is an M9 thread not A9 :laugh:
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
Consider it analysing A9 for M9 development ;)
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
ok waiting for the RAW vs RAW enhance shots
[One (M9) General] LLegion:
i just cant good photoz on night and have not understood correctly long exposure, im a mess :S
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
do you own a tripod ?

if not invest in one try those mini tripods they are easy to carry around i usually place them on top of stuff ie the hood of a car .

i also use lowest iso .

take some test shots to gauge your scene ie if there are streets lights and brightish lights 6sec + will blow out alot of those highlights.

back to iso ask yourself is the object/subject in the scene moving if not iso can remain as low as possibe.

However is there is movement i would start with a slow shutter say 4 sec iso 100 if movement still crazy double iso half the shutter iso 200 2 sec movement still unacceptable half again iso 400 1 sec expo till you reach a compromise between motion / noise.

i dunno if the m9 can fire the flash while using manual exposure time but if it can this allows to freeze subject in a long exposure when lighting is very very poor just keep subject a distant from the flash also diffusing the flash helps the Cheap way is to place tissue/leenex over flash module
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
Was playing to see if I could see the crystal structures
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
i am not expert at photos at all, but i think they still enhance the JPG file of the gallery app.

here is the images/files for your analysing

RAW as appear in the gallery before you touch the enhance button

0 by Omran Jumah, on Flickr

enahnced RAW. (one touch button in the htc gallery)

2015-12-04_07-08-32 by Omran Jumah, on Flickr

pure RAW just viewed the DNG file in PS and saved it as it is (here is Full size file as well)

2 by Omran Jumah, on Flickr

conclusion, A9 RAW is rubbish, compared to G4 and the king here is M9 in this department, even though M9 is not with ois, but it shoot surprisingly very so much focused and crystal clean RAW DNGs

on the other hand, i have tried the Auto A9 Mode against Z5, iPhone6, iPhone 6s, Lenovo vibeshot, LG G4 and it beat them all night and day (in auto mode) beat them specially in light sources balances and balanced exposure, today i got the chance to test it with badass note 5, here is the pictures

A9 auto

2015-12-04_06-37-51 by Omran Jumah, on Flickr

Note5 auto

2015-12-04_06-37-32 by Omran Jumah, on Flickr

i am soooo surprised by a9 auto mode performance, will i care about RAW poor performance, no, not when i am getting such results from auto mode.

i have to say that i miss the lowlight superior HDR performance of the M9. A9 HDR is normal but faster than M9 by 3x maybe

i have to give it to Evan Rodgers on Medium dot com,

he is right
[One (M9) General] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
my camera often really laggs eg is slow in UI when using low ISO..is it normal or what could it be?
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=7012021]imOJ[/MENTION] thanks for these, no its working properly now, RAW is being auto enhanced finally, not the JPEG [MENTION=377973]defcomg[/MENTION]

the super low light photo you took was a real challenge thats all, its best to test a glass in very good light

i really hope they bring this to the M9 without breaking it
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION] Oh really, nice to hear this

Can you have a look at note 5 and A9 photos and gives us detailed feedback as an expert
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
yes its fixed, enjoy RAW + auto enhance now on your A9, you just needed to inspect them at 100% and see how they both have different pixel precision, i am glad it was caught so quickly

as for the N5, unless the lens was smudged or something your A9 destroyed it

really hopeful about the M10 now but what i really want since as you agree the M9 RAW is so good, i really hope they give us a working RAW enhance in the M9 MM update
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
Before any shooting test I clean the lenses of both devices very well.

Man I am also hopeful that M10 can be that good but htc always teach us that they can easily screw themselves down
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
true true but i like to push the camera to its limit lol i recently forced uhd to 31.5fps @ 160mbps just for the fun of it lol 3 min video made the metal part of my phone burn my finger so yeah if you use your phone like a normal person good light is a must . id love to get my hands on a m9 so i can push it to the point of seeing smoke :D and yes i have smelt burning plastic once or twice
[One (M9) General] NOTilyass:
just got the m9. Can someone tell me how you can get better pictures?? I'm guessing using something other than the stock camera app ??
[One (M9) General] jaskarandhanju:
use raw mode and Photoshop express for android or on pc is the best way to go for best results.
[One (M9) General] fernandezhjr:
Another option for opening and converting dngs is Snapseed. I like the interface better than PSX.
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
But it's very limited compared to PSX, I agree interface of PSX is rubbish but I can achieve 2 times better photos than snapseed

But let's give snapseed sometime they have only started DNG editing feature a month ago unlike adobe who own this format already
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
Hi,

here new pics from marshmallow 3.34.

regards

starbase64

HTC One M9 - 3.34 - HDR untouched by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr

HTC One M9 - 3.34 - HDR edited in Lr by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr

HTC One M9 - 3.34 - RAW edited in Lr by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=456666]starbase64[/MENTION] totally useless without full resolution ;)
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
nothing has changed
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
1:1 is the only way to know

But it seems on the leaked test base RAW enhance from the A9 was not given to the M9

Lets hope it makes it on the final release
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION]

full res hdr untouched, i hope this link works: https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/700/22930449633_a2f9f9eaa0_o.jpg

edit: more comes later, i have a big upload at the moment
[One (M9) General] LLegion:
Can you provide with ALL camera Settings before shooting this awesome picture? Thnaks so much in advanced, i have Cqamera Mod 1.04 HW Denoise. =D
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
All automatic and 10:7 (no modifications on some files)
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
now more photos from 3.34: https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=7AA3784ED74B7EF9!45871&authkey=!ALZdO5Fa_RnsTA4&ithint=folder,
[One (M9) General] fernandezhjr:
I can accept that, but I'm strictly using Snapseed to convert the dngs to jpgs. I don't do any enhancements, except some slight exposure or contrast adjustment if needed. Will you tell me how you are opening the dngs with PSX? I don't get a file explorer option and when I use the gallery option, I believe it is opening the raw jpg created, not the dng.
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
You are right gallery won't open it, you need htc file manager to browse manually for the DNG or ES File Explorer which I use.

I will be automatically opened in PSX app

I started doing aggressive editing but now I only do little touches I prefer to have it look naturally. Good luck

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buzzing with the last update :laugh:

RAW

HTC gallery Auto enhanced (impressive & grainy) :laugh:
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
install freedcam and use the image viewer that come with it it will preview your dngs then tap on open dng
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
images are not showing

and i am pissed HTC skipped RAW auto enhance for the M9 MM update, the final base better have it
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
I will re-upload

You know, RAW from M9 is way way better than A9

I just can't imagine how would this feature would be in M9 it should be amazing

Is there anyway I can enhance M9 photos by sending them to my A9, I did but they don't show in my A9 gallery

What do you think?
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
Good idea! Yes place both the RAW and jpeg companion in your A9 gallery
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
No luck

Not appearing in the gallery :(
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
there is probably some dng filter using that UniqueModel tag found inside a dng share a deodexed gallery apk i will try find it and bypass it
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
My A9 Apk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-O6Sj2Xgy8xN2hHSEc1a0MtaVk/view?usp=docslist_api
[One (M9) General] Mostafa Wael:
Okay here is my first PSX modded photo (opened the DNG file via File Manager in PSX ;) )
[One (M9) General] Mostafa Wael:
And here is the photo from Auto mode
[One (M9) General] Mostafa Wael:
And this is the JPG of the RAW mode in the gallery [MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION] [MENTION=7012021]imOJ[/MENTION] i think i am beginning to improve in PSX :D
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
whats the point if you are attaching them on XDA, they all look the same at this scale
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
Very nice, just try to avoid too much defog, clarity and reduce noise

Those 3 could washout the photo regular sharpness
[One (M9) General] Mostafa Wael:
Will upload them on mega for full res

Forgot about that :o
[One (M9) General] seanie2322:
Picture of my cat chilling in the sun. Shows the capabilities of this camera in good lighting

The sunset the other night
[One (M9) General] jaskarandhanju:
hardware if capable but only HTC software lacks. http://1drv.ms/1lrVMAK
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
Dubai mall htc one M9 HDR

2015-12-11_08-55-47 by Omran Jumah, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
Some pics taken at a private reserve here in my country :)

IMAG0943 by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

IMAG0932 by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

IMAG0920 by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

IMAG0954 by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

IMAG0955 by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

IMAG0957 by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

IMAG0973 by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

[MENTION=994565]Ramsey[/MENTION] you asked them a long time ago, but I hope you like them :p had to be away of forums for a season because of work
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
Where's that exactly ? Great shots
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
Thanks :) it's a private park called "La Paz Waterfall Gardens" located at Vara Blanca, Alajuela, Costa Rica. They also have a lodge if you wanna stay for a weekend, it's a beautiful place indeed, here's a link if you want to find out more

http://www.waterfallgardens.com/la_paz_waterfall_gardens.php
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
2015-12-12_12-42-18 by Omran Jumah, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] jaskarandhanju:
water drop in the web
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
M9

2015-12-18_09-45-37 by Omran Jumah, on Flickr

2015-12-18_09-44-20 by Omran Jumah, on Flickr

2015-12-18_09-47-28 by Omran Jumah, on Flickr

A9

2015-12-18_10-30-07 by Omran Jumah, on Flickr

2015-12-18_10-05-45 by Omran Jumah, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] rizevnarastek:
The dynamic range on the A9 seems incredible. Great that HTC finally got their algorithms right. Gives us all high hopes for the M10. The sky on the last two seems real. What was your setup and are the photos true to life?

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
The A9 photos are enhanced in PSX but this no setting was adjusted, just auto shoot

And as you said the Dynamic Range is incredibly nice in A9

I will post these last two in original so you can have better idea

You can visit my Flickr and see comparison with note 5,z5, LG G4 and iPhone 6 as well
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=7012021]imOJ[/MENTION] my friend, you need to do two things mate before i declare you officially the king of the M9 camera :laugh:

practice level the horizon in your photos mate by rotating the phone slight left or right, it should be perfectly flat and then you need to level the vertical lines for the buildings as well by tilting the camera backward or forward a little
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
It's all done throughout your inspirational thread mate [emoji23]

Not kidding but I was frustrating and hopeful at the same time that this camera could do better. Because sometimes it surprised me with really good photos, so I was saying to myself this camera is good if you learn how to use it, or if you a photographer.

And since long time I am here and there only reading headlines. But then I started to read all the discussions which results an amazon Tripod for the M9 [emoji23]

I will try to get the best balance when I shoot I think grids lines would help, let's see
[One (M9) General] davidtm0:
Yeah, I've always used the grid lines. They help!
[One (M9) General] NDR_man:
We can all admit the M9 has a terrible camera but it has potential, it's just that the HTC camera department's post processing is that of a 3 year old's dog's regurgitated cabbage. The hardware is very good but the software is terrible. [IMG="Photos I took from my M9. I promise."]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxhSiU0AVAMDNFhBUjdFenNVSkE/view?usp=docslist_api[/IMG]
[One (M9) General] NOTilyass:
I'm reading this "camera is good but the sofware is bad" trend here, is there any tutorial on how to get the best possible pics on the m9 ??
[One (M9) General] nbicho:
Look here
[One (M9) General] RSK01:
More photos from my recent trip (all untouched unless otherwise stated). I have 3 cameras with me the M9, HTC Re and the Sony RX100 M4. Have been using the Sony more (just too cold to switch cameras too often):

[IMG="A manual 2s handheld attempt on a aurora"]https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5814/23851442426_d358789d43_b_d.jpg[/IMG]

If you want to check out more samples visit my flickr account here : https://www.flickr.com/photos/31191230@N07/
[One (M9) General] neo905:
Tim Cook mentioned on 60 Minutes that Apple has 800 engineers working on their camera software/hardware. Does HTC even have 800 employees total globally? I think this says a lot right there.
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
It doesn't not counted this way

BTW A9 destroy iPhone 6 and 6s day and night you can check my Flickr

I Rather have 5 staff doing good performance than having 100 doing very good performance
[One (M9) General] p50kombi:
I don't mean to rain on your parade, but that comment made no sense at all... Think you might have it the wrong way round..

Isn't this a thread for m9 pictures btw?

I know you love your a9, but it has no place in this thread, place them in the a9 section please.

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[One (M9) General] imOJ:
I didn't have it wrong, it's my opinion in life, it's about the quality not quantity.

We all know that htc is rubbish in camera department, but in A9 they have done well, yet no one is giving them any credit.

I most admit that A9 video shooting is junk and htc didn't put any work to it

I am not here to defend A9 or praise it, and I use my M9 as my main phone. It's just your imagination when someone goes against your opinion that means he love what he praised.

And remember, it's M9 thread, so stop praising your hidden iPhone :)
[One (M9) General] p50kombi:
It must be a language thing.

Read back your original post, which stated 100 people doing a very good job is worse than the doing good job.

In my book a very good job is always better than just a good job. So you just contradicted yourself again.

But I'm unsubscribing from this thread, it was supposed to be thread to post m9 pictures, yet it has turned into a comparison thread.

You do tick me off with your personal comments, look how long I have been a member of xda, I have never owned anything different than HTC so please keep your silly iPhone comments to yourself, many thanks.

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[One (M9) General] imOJ:
I am sorry if it meant that way to you

I didn't mean anything to you in person

I don't know you either

But it was strange to me that didn't like what I was saying about A9. Even though it could be same setting in next htc flagship which make sense if discussed here. But you didn't like Because it's an M9 thread and in the same time you brought the apple team camera work here.

I don't know who's contradicting himself here
[One (M9) General] p50kombi:
You're still not getting it are you.. You wrote your comment about few and many the wrong way round.

I don't know what this iPhone thing is you keep going on about nor the apple team, never did I mention iPhone nor do I have one or support their team or work.

Just give it a rest please, don't worry, it'll be the last time I correct you on using language the wrong way round.

Sigh.. But I'm sure you're dying to get the last word in anyway.

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[One (M9) General] imOJ:
Mate

First of all calm down

We are matured and no one is looking for last word here

I said I prefer 5 staff doing good job than having 100 resulting very good job

Means, to me I can sacrifice the 95 if the work is good specially for a company like htc, small company with broken financial status

This is my opinion, respect it or skip and go

And no need to correct my language, we are all from different cultures and sometimes we could not understand some examples when talking to each other's and that's why I apologize to you in my previous post, but you still say I want last word

Have a good day
[One (M9) General] neo905:
I bought the M9 back in April and it took 4 months for HTC to turn beta software into something usable that still was subpar by 2015 flagship standards. That is unacceptable. They knew for a whole year they had to get the camera right and still botched it. That could have been a management issue, a resources issue or both. Either way they need to come out with a polished FINISHED product when it comes to the software/hardware of the M10. I don't care how many people they have working on it, just get it right.
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
This is what I am saying, I always said that M9 camera and the phone itself is a failure

But yes I don't care how many staff they have in camera department

If imx214 can do this much on A9 just by adding ois and software tweaks, then I am sure it doesn't need 800 guy to repeat this result

800 guy could do Inception 2
[One (M9) General] fernandezhjr:
Just because it wasn't polished on release doesn't mean the phone is failure. It just means management failed at making some good decisions. I have found my M9 to be a very good phone. Sure it took a little time to get some quirks ironed out, but in all honesty, I have seen this before with other phones, including the iPhones and Galaxy's. At the end of the day, if you are that unhappy with your phone that you think it is a failure, why are you sticking with it? You should sell it and move on to something you will be happy with. I know this thread is about photos the camera takes, but this seems to be the biggest complaint against the phone, although I do believe that is a bit overblown.
[One (M9) General] imOJ:
Did I tell you I am not happy with my phone? I am happy because I love the fast ui and I just can't move out of sense.

Yes in my opinion it was a failure because the camera was horrible for the first 4 or 5 months, and there was heat and charging issues for this period too.

Launching M9 without ois was huge mistake that htc would never repeat and I guarantee you that M10 will have it.

Why I didn't sell it? Because I love htc but should I lie to myself?

The phone to me is a package includes music player so I care about front facing speakers, I love the build quality, I have many htc accessories also.

It let me down sometimes in photos but since the update on August I can shoot better photos than iPhone and many phones, but it takes effort because I am using manual to achieve this and at night I carry Tripod.

I agree with you management failed in some decisions like ois maybe but that lead for massive negative first impression which results in poor sales(failure)

On the other hand A9 is super easy to get beautiful photos, this show that M9 failed in this department which is maybe the most important department for people these days. Let's hope that M10 would be as good as A9 out of the box, not after 4 months