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[One (M9) General] RSK01:
Just to chip in. I am a HTC fan. I have had almost every flagship device since the Dopod days.

But I was also swayed, by the Galaxy Series, so I have been also been getting almost all the Galaxy phones since the S2, be it the S series or the Note series, the latest being the Note4. Have been pushing the phones to my wife every year.

Due to work, we have also been using the iphones, having every model since the iPhone4, the latest being the 6+.

The M8 has so far been the best phone overall in my opinion, falling short only when zooming to get best absolute shot is necessary.

I have been carrying both the M8 and the M9 everyday, for the past 2 months. Simply because I felt the M9's camera and battery life was not on par with the M8.

Since the latest update one plus week ago, I glad to say, I am clearing out my M8 to pass it to my son, who is still using my S3. He did not get his hands on our S4 and Note3 because we sold them off while there is still a decent re-sale value.:D

Yes, I was very tempted with the F1.8 lens, but TW is still something I cannot get over.

Sadly, quite a few of the M8 shutterbugs have went over to the S6. To the few of us left, let's just post our favourite shots here to show what the M9 is capable of....

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All unedited auto/night except the last two, used Flickr Bleached Filter

TCC - Mellinia by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Fiery Pepper Wings - TCC by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Raffles Town Club by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Crystal Lamp by Yik Lim, on Flickr

1st Ave Penang by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Satay - New Lane Hawker - Georgetown Penang by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Shoes Parade by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Pinky Land by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Black & White.. by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Laces by Yik Lim, on Flickr

AirAsia by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Shoes by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Pickle Jars by Yik Lim, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] Tokuku56:
These pictures are amazing I'm excited for this update now
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
#m1strss
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
seconds is a crop

PSX_20150628_002055_wm by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr

PSX_20150628_002247 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
[One (M9) General] *Emix*:
S6 vs. M9:

[YOUTUBE]93qCU_Ixb4c[/YOUTUBE]

S6 vs. M9 vs. i6:

https://curved.de/news/galaxy-s6-one-m9-iphone-6-im-grossen-kameravergleich-236192
[One (M9) General] Super-Veloce:
Damn.. that camera of the S6 is goood.

HTC finally comes with a 20MP camera, and again poor results.. Why can't they do like S6??
[One (M9) General] th3:
Blame the megapixel naab for giving us that [emoji9]

It can't be that bad! It's being shown as utter crap in Auto, and so bad in low light. I think better may be achievable, even in Auto...

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[One (M9) General] Super-Veloce:
Hope so.. and maybe it's camera app related, maybe better performance with the app like Camera FV-5

But I always keep in mind, the photos come from a mobile phone, no DSLR.. but still, if you know it can be way better.. like S6..
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
Speed and stuff like that are purely software so it will hopefully be tweaked. What about latest update any changes regarding this?

Skickat från min iPhone 6 Plus med Tapatalk

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You sure he doesn't use a firmware from the age of dinosaurs?

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[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
I am so waiting for Gavin's camera battle between M9 and Note 4!

Where are you man?
[One (M9) General] curiousgeorge1893:
Not quite on topic but I've got an M8 coming, I'm ditching my Xperia Z2 for it, is that a good idea do you think? I was put off by the 4MP camera as i admit I like to zoom and crop, however I like a phone that is good in lowlight.

Also, I like a phone that offers manual controls and shutter speed, HTC phones are the only ones that do this plus a like a phone that has a good flash and takes photos quickly.

I was planning on getting a secondhand M9 later in the year but to be honest I am disappointed as I feel that HTC have go fowards then 2 steps backwards with the M9 camera. Whilst it's great it has a higher resolution, the f/2.0 aperature in the M7 and M8 is now f/2.2 on the M9, in my opinion it should have been f/2.0 or f/1.9, also lack of OIS is disappointing and it seems lowlight on the M9 isn't as good as the M8? Very disappointing if so.
[One (M9) General] Semseddin:
Unfortunately, M9 photos looks like sh!t and that includes the much glorified front cam,too. I don't think the finalized camera software would make huge difference as well. Sh!t is sh!t no matter how hard you polish it.
[One (M9) General] th3:
The M8 cam is good unless you zoom in much, and pretty superb in low-light.

But it's last years tech, and no competition to 2015 tech.

Those guys in the One M8 pictures thread have tried very hard to get the most out of the M8 using camera and post-processing software. They really have done a splendid job. Gtg465x and Hamdir are two of them: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2694621

So any questions, just refer to them in that thread. They've covered a lot.

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[One (M9) General] gavinfabl:
Lurking ☺ sadly the weather is crap at the moment. Rain and fog. The M9 camera is not **** BTW, just the S6 is really good.
[One (M9) General] tryfound:
I can't really tell the difference in speed, seems about the same to me which is impressive considering the phone is taking 20MP shots. Speed differences are probably marginal at best.
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
Can anyone take a low light pic with lower resolution ? I believe it will lessen the falling photons on the sensor, thus lower noise and more light hitting the sensore ! I guess
[One (M9) General] Tuborg68:
Realistically, how much do you think the m9 camera can improve with firmware updates?

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[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
I believe it will be improved just as it did with m8 ! it won't be a totally difrnt camera but it will be improved am sure 100% can't wait for it to arrive !!!!!
[One (M9) General] curiousgeorge1893:
I like the Z2 but not the post processing, it smudges details, I read on here that the Z3 does the same? I also don't like lack of shutter speed control. Even on the S6 you can't adjust sharpness, saturation and shutter speed.

You are right about the image stabilization, it's great on the Z2, even better than a lot of phones that have OIS in my opinion.

It's good to see that the HTC One M9 has a 1/2.4" sensor, a lot of compact cameras have a 1/2.3" sensor so it's almost as big as that, it has a bigger sensor than the 1/2.6" in the S6.

I'm looking forward to phone cameras having even bigger sensor and also a lower aperature, would be great to see a phone with a f1.8 aperature, no need for LED flashes then.
[One (M9) General] BoneXDA:
All right! From my short experience, the One M9 Camera is pretty decent , nice level of details without overshapening during daylight, though with some noticeable noise reduction (skies are bit "greasy"). That's at 20 megapixels mind you, so there's plenty of print-ready details in the large jpg files. I do notice the white balance shifting sometimes on the goldish side around sunlit areas, and the M9 tends to underexpose in such conditions. Not a biggie. During the night, the SW preference is high ISO with major loss of details, but luckily we have manual shutter control, and something like 1/3s comes to help, though auto-focus becomes slow and unreliable.
[One (M9) General] SPreston2001:
The whole camera comparison may be silly, but 90% of users just want to pick up the phone and snap good pics. Most users don't fiddle around with the camera settings or even know what they do for that matter lol. All they see are which photos look the best when they pick up their phone and take a pic. The M9 camera seems to be alot better than the M8s camera but it still tends to fall behind Apples and Samsungs imaging abilities.
[One (M9) General] curiousgeorge1893:
What i find frustrating and think is that HTC don't seem to have a clear strategy in my opinion.

HTC One M7: OIS, 4MP Camera

HTC One M8 OIS removed, 4MP Camera, Duo Camera

HTC One M9: No OIS, 20MP Camera, no Duo Camera

HTC One M9+: Rumours suggest 20MP Camera, no OIS, Duo Camera.

The great lowlight shots on the M7 and M8 appear I think to have been sacrificed to play the megapixel game which is surprising given that didn't HTC say Megapixels weren't that important? Hence the 4MP cameras on the M7 and M8.

Surely a 13MP ultrapixel would have provided very good daytime and low light photos?
[One (M9) General] th3:
Out of the 500k sales a month, them average Joe are 99%, and more.

Tech enthusiasts tend to overexaggerate their importance and numbers in the grand scheme of things.

HTC didn't design for the hardcore enthusiast but the mass market AKA profits.

A la pickup and shoot.

The huge overheating scare will kill off most sales alone. It'll sell worse than M8, that's absolutely certain.

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[One (M9) General] jkcarp94:
This article really summed it up for me: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Noki...Galaxy-Note-4-HTC-One-M9-ends-up-last_id67659

I've already ordered the M9 and don't plan to send it back after reading this.

There is a big difference between a photo not being chosen as the best in a comparison lineup and there being something inherently wrong or terrible about a photo.

I tried to imagine myself being frustrated with any of those M9 results in isolation and couldn't. I think this whole camera thing is getting blown way out of proportion.
[One (M9) General] DoKaTSuYa:
The pics are nice, but all seem taken in Raw.

How is the stabilisation video now ? what is the last update ?

With what you edit your Raw ? direct from the phone or with the PC ?

I want One M9 or Z3+ if the last one have no more heat up.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
Edited on the phone using Photoshop Express (PSX)
[One (M9) General] dafluke24:
Raw+psx from the museum of natural science. The exhibit has pretty low level lighting, but the phone performs great. Since I'm on sprint, I don't have the newest update yet. Suppose to be coming soon. Second pic is just auto setting.
[One (M9) General] stevensgl:
Still waiting for HTC to rollout the Ota 1.40. This really bothers me. I understand that the company needs to make sure that the firmware is stable, but come on.... They released it in several counties already. I bought my unlocked m9 in the US., I'm sure there are many customers that feel left out as well. Come on HTC!
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Anyone tried to run LG Camera from G4?

It would be cool to use it on M9 as it has extended settings
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
A walk in the forest with the new 5.1 update, I must say as long as you resize your photos to 1 to 4mp it's very nice but 1:1 is awe-full even in daylight, it's noisy at the sky and smudgy at the trees.

Looks like HTC went back to the pre-sale camera improvements.

I am very pissed by htc this time, they fixed the thermals but killed the camera (again)

RAW is overexposed when opened in Adobe Lightroom, it looks like HTC changed the RAW info into worse.

Auto HDR

Crop from above:

RAW
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
i don't think it will work on non LG Device . even though g4 can use api 2 the stock cam is using LG's api's for the most part .

are you rooted ?

if yes attach these files

found in system/lib/hw

libchromatix_t4ka7_snapshot.so
libchromatix_t4ka7_cpp_snapshot.so
libchromatix_t4ka7_cpp_snapshot_qtr.so

then i can reduce gain value to 1 for some reason the gain is set to 2 could be the reason image is noisy
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
files attached... from base 2.7.401.1
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
I will try Viperom new base as its camera jpeg compression can be reduced to 0

If it doesn't do a difference I will go back to Leedroid 7.6 and wait for a proper base update
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
attached zip with two versions of the lib

gain 1x Just changed gain to 1x

gain 1x expo line count 2x - Doubled line count to see if exposure will be longer than 4.999999 seconds

edit [MENTION=456666]starbase64[/MENTION]

forgot that the m9 snapshot config has three defined devices one for m9, CMCC device and KDDI device

in test 2 i changed all the values for the different tables
[One (M9) General] ffodi:
Sunset :)

1.40.401.8 stock, shaprness -1, jpeg, this time

NO

effects

[IMG="sunset1"]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/fj03ep3rbjt1ffc/IMAG0332_thumb.jpg?dl=0[/IMG]

[IMG="sunset2"]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/bh4mgjq8y3vg58x/IMAG0325_thumb.jpg?dl=0[/IMG]

--> Click the pics to open it in full.....
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
You can't even call it an update, as this is a leak by football of test build, I have the version number of the latest version, it's much higher than 2.7

So relax and don't be pissed just yet, it's impossible to think that they will regress from 1.40, 1.40 was pushed recently when the 2.X base was already testing

Most likely the amends will merge in the final release
[One (M9) General] ericc191:
unedited on the newest firmware
[One (M9) General] fps_pete:
The first one is raw and the second one on auto.
[One (M9) General] Albert Poon:
Sorry, misread.
[One (M9) General] diamond09:
Is it better to use this zips or are the normal one ok for now?
[One (M9) General] neo905:
I find whenever I take sunset pictures in auto mode the trees are black with no detail. HDR gives the trees some detail but the picture is a bit washed out. I'll try RAW mode next time.
[One (M9) General] fps_pete:
Yeah I tried it for kick and giggles and it came out pretty good. Still haven't tried HDR.
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
if your on the same base rom as starbase64 you could try it and look at the results

Modified HAL Lib to bypass max exposure time check

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5NJTB9bLPdsTE1HbWFfYUMtWXM/view?usp=sharing

the line 2x was to test if can go past 4.9 seconds
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
Which file should we replace ? And what's the dir ?
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
/system/vendor/lib/
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
And downloaded the file "camera.msm8994.so" and placed it in system/vendor/lib but longest exposure still 2seconds !
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
[MENTION=1237654]sallam5010[/MENTION]

res_ctrl.conf in /system/ETC/ needs also a little modification.

attach the exposure values they need.

4.9 is the highest stable value for me.
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
I changed the values from the code you posted with more values to res_ctrl.conf and copied the file camera.msm8994.so to system/vendor/libs but all I got was fc lol I think viper rom 3.0 got difrnt system folders I guess ! As those file for gain control also isn't in system at all I don't even have it !
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
camera.msm8994.so > /system/lib/hw/
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
Well I got it working it was also permission isn't right

Now camera is working fine but manual controls are blank !
[One (M9) General] RSK01:
Manual:

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Macro:

Ikea Pencils by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Night:

Ikea Pencils by Yik Lim, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
please post your res_ctrl.conf
[One (M9) General] andybg40:
A few pics from the garden a couple of weeks back. I reckon the camera works just fine!

No edit, just JPG straight from camera.
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
There u go
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Back to 1.40 rom, wow! I missed the good camera of 1.40 after the awful 2.7
[One (M9) General] Ramsey:
I don't have the phone yet as I'm comparing the whole package to the S6. Still not sure which to pick. I would actually take the G4 if it didn't have so many issues!

What I notice with the camera of the M9 and S6 is a simple case of HTC and Samsung using wayy too much noise reduction. We get ugly results and smudging of details.

Can anyone test with Snap Camera and enabling Advanced Settings and unchecking Denoise to see if that removes the noise reduction? (It does remove it on my Galaxy S5 and results are totally different and actually realistic, but you get lots of noise, which I'm fine with).
[One (M9) General] djbutter:
Same here, although I'm leaning towards the S6 myself. The images coming out of this thread just aren't as good as what's coming out of the equivalent S6 thread, IMHO.
[One (M9) General] fabian080587:
Hi everyone, I'm Fabio and for the first time i've decided to post here in XDA.

I've been following this thread since i've bought my one m9 and i must say i really like this phone even with its flaws. The camera, in fact, is still giving me doubts and i cannot stop myself to think if we ever have a really decent development from HTC.

I have a question for you guys: how can i get decent pics in low light situation?

Let me explain: before posting i've looked all over the thread, all hamdir's posts, but i cannot find a real analisys about low light situation (i don't exclude to have missed it). In fact, trying with my new one m9 and the old htc desire, I still get better low light pics with the latter. They are more "defined" (or at least they seems to get a a better processing and i'm asking if it's me or just a matter of time to have a decent camera). If you look at the desk, the pic taken with desire is better looking, not the better overall, but better to see for me.

One m9 have been taken with iso capped at 400 ,-1.5 sharpness and everything else on auto, Medium res. Even changing this setting i'm not getting a real better pic. I'm using Leedroid 7.6.1.

Do you think that is my fault? There is some post i've not read properly?

Thank you and sorry for my bad english.
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
ViperOne 3.0.0 - Base 2.7.401.1

PSX_20150701_082329_wm by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
[One (M9) General] peca_slo:
Any manual settings and any edit.... Very nice picture
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
camera in raw mode and processed with psx
[One (M9) General] m4jkee:
[MENTION=456666]starbase64[/MENTION] HI, can you please write whole tutorial for getting 4.9 seconds long exposure in raw? I tried those gain and test files, all those res_config things and it didnt worked. And I dont know why. So if you can PLEASE write whole manual, how to do it. Or maybe start a new thread like "how to improve you camera". It would be AWESSOME!!! I am sure, many of us would appreciate it.

BTW i am on 2.7 base on viper 3.0. and I LOVE taking photos and I would like to BEAT all of those S6 and 6S photos and take maximum of my m9 camera ;)
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
1+

As iam still trying to make my manual control work cuz even the stock manual control are gone and I can't get it back lol

I think I will flash the rom again and wait till there's proper step by step how to do it :D
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
G4 issues? The only one was touch screen issue and it's fixed now.

I prefer my M9 mainly because sense 7 is the best UI ever created and the metal back can't be replaced by glass (s6).

The G4 has a better camera in low light for sure but do we buy a smartphone based on the camera only?

The M9 with 1.40 fw produces better photos than s6 thanks to Raw, you can control the amount of noise removal as much as you want, but the limited memory of s6 can't help you, only M9 and G4 have sd slot
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
Hi,

i've created a flashable zip with needed files, but all credits for this mod goes to [MENTION=377973]defcomg[/MENTION]

based on lastest htc base 2.7.401.1

4.9 seconds is the max exposure time at the moment!

regards

starbase64
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
Sweet and working like boss :D
[One (M9) General] Ramsey:
It doesn't seem like the touchscreen issues are solved :/.. G4 has other issues actually, heating up a lot, lagging, (same issues with G3).

I really like Sense! even more than the other 2. That's why I'm torn.

I want to see some Raw samples here but I haven't been able to find one with original/max resolution. People seem to post tiny resolution ones, and of course, anything in low resolution looks good.

I'm also still waiting for someone to tell me if Snap Camera removes noise reduction by unchecking denoise setting (FreeDcam also does that).
[One (M9) General] richierich:
[MENTION=994565]Ramsey[/MENTION], I can confirm that using snap camera, and unchecking the Denoise setting does actual switch the noise filter off. Will post samples later this evening.
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
You must understand that RAW photos are not postprocessed, so you have to correct noise yourself using Lightroom on PC for exemple, but once you know how to denoise then it will be a piece of cake to get amazing photos, some photos taken in very bright daylight don't even need denoising.

About the G4 not all models have the touch screen issue anyway, only some US models got this bug (most likely due to branded OS) and nobody complained about any lag, all the dudes migrating from note 4 and S6 to G4 said it feels way faster (like M9 UI), a friend bought the international version and didn't get any lag not bug. If you follow all the negative threads about smartphones then you will buy none of them as you will always find someone in a corner of the universe saying his phone has lags, or it get warm...and the perfect phone doesn't exist, all phones nowadays have more or less problems, the M9 used to get warm with old FW but it's fixed now, the only remaining bug is the screen waking lag (should be fixed in later fW) , the S6 has numerous hardware problems like pink tint on whites, motherboard traces on the screen under sunlight...
[One (M9) General] Ramsey:
I know about RAW, that wasn't my point.. I have a Panasonic GX7 for photography. I just want a good reliable phone that takes great pictures, and I think with denoise off the M9 could have great details!

Good to know about the G4! I still like the size and software of the M9 better but I would have loved OIS on the M9.

Actually I have to go by what many are saying because that's how you filter out having a bad device. Look at the Z1-Z2-Z3, most have cracked glasses, random software issues, and because of that I will not buy that phone. While selling my HTC M8, I met a person here in Canada that says that his Z3 cracked out of nowhere.

Now I have to apologize for no longer being relevant in this thread! We can discuss this elsewhere.

tcharrafna :)
[One (M9) General] fernandezhjr:
I don't have a S6 to compare to, but I have been making comparisons to my wife's Note 4 and have pretty much come to the same conclusion. When taking low light pics, the Note 4 pics look better detailed. Zooming in reveals why. There is more noise with the Note pics, but detail is still very good. With the M9 pics, there is less noise, but the over aggressiveness with noise removal creates a loss of detail and make the images look a bit blurred and smudgy. In certain low light situations, where there is less noise created, the M9 actually takes better pics, but this is not often. And forget about using the flash. The M9 actually has the worse flash I ever had on a phone. I will note, I am still on older software and am not totally disappointed with the camera, so the upcoming improvements should make me happy.
[One (M9) General] rizevnarastek:
I don't actually get how the M9 has a POS flash when the M8 had the best... Is the metering off or what? PS in darkness (black viewfinder) always tap to focus with flash enabled. That way it will illuminate the scene and focus properly and also make the flash balanced when it takes the photo.

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
does it also includes general fixes for 2.7 firmware camera, like grain detail and such? Camera is horrible in 2.7, I was about to go back to 1.40 because of it.
[One (M9) General] fernandezhjr:
Brightness is weak and there is too much yellow light. This is more evident when you are comparing to a same pic from another phone. Could be metering involved, but I doubt it. Maybe I just don't like the way the yellow light changes emits a more incandescent looking light and changes skin tones.