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[One (M9) General] Adam182:
Just want to voice my appreciation for [MENTION=456666]starbase64[/MENTION] and [MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION], you guys are doing a great job with all this camera testing - Adam
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
[MENTION=377973]defcomg[/MENTION] also...
[One (M9) General] th3:
They're (HTC) reading already...

Carry on the tweaking

Sent using Tapatalk
[One (M9) General] creepinm3:
Its just weird how the first generation had OIS but now they we're in the third they remove it? Why is that?
[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
Then everything is at default. Can't be helped. Reason i asked was i saw a little halo around the buckle.

When i looked up the N86 was surprised to find out it had a variable aperture. That is quite rare, not seen a fixed focus camera phone with a variable aperture before.

This means N86 is a capable macro shooter and would challenge current flagships in that space. When it comes to macro it isn't surprising to find 5 yr old devices doing well in this space. I've seen a macro photo of SE 850 from 2008 match if not beat a Z1 from 2013.
[One (M9) General] augie7107:
Revolution game
[One (M9) General] flex360:
IMG_2015.04.26_10.04.49 by flexbox360, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
Hi,

here is a HDR sample from "a better camera", completely untouched.

Oberelspe_26.04.2015_19-35_HDR by starbase64, on Flickr

regards

starbase64
[One (M9) General] XperiaNexus333:
So, I just added those camera properties at the end of my build.prop. I tried adding them with a build prop editor and they wouldn't stick after reboot. I am wondering if they need to be placed in a specific place in the build.prop or is it OK to just as them at the very bottom?
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
camera app hdr comparison between:

a better camera

camera 360 ultimate

camera awesome

google camera

htc camera

pro capture

snap camera

20150426_203104_HDR_a-better-camera by starbase64, on Flickr

C360_2015-04-26-20-45-37-352 by starbase64, on Flickr

20150426203325_camera-awesome by starbase64, on Flickr

IMG_20150426_203452_google-camera by starbase64, on Flickr

IMAG0049 by starbase64, on Flickr

IMG_20150426_203618_pro-capture by starbase64, on Flickr

IMG_20150426_203822_snap-camera by starbase64, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
i used build prop editor also and works fine here

and yes, place on end of build.prop
[One (M9) General] DjLukeW:
Htc camera. Standard panoramic shot and the other HDR auto focus
[One (M9) General] v1rk:
All Iso set to 800 and tap to focus. Although forgot to clean the lense
[One (M9) General] acidspider:
What's best to change in build. Prop or is it personal preference?
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
your flickr account disallow fool quality download :)
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fjvjleyd89cnwd6/AAC5HawaZ2FRZYWXdVE0zd_Ba?dl=0
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
HTC One M9 - low light - HTC Camera

pic 1: ISO100 et 2 sec (image stacking)

pic 2: ISO1600 et 2 sec (image stacking)

pic 3: Sony QX100 ISO160 (without image stacking)

Oberelspe_26.04.2015_23-05_ISO100 by starbase64, on Flickr

Oberelspe_26.04.2015_23-05_ISO1600 by starbase64, on Flickr

Oberelspe_26.04.2015_23-05_QX100 by starbase64, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] dratsablive:
Primus and The Chocolate Factory in Hershey Pa. Yes those are Oompa Loompas on stage.
[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
Can you enable downloads for that flickr album ?
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
Looks like I have to put them somewhere else so you get full a sized images

https://www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157624743789041/

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But.....how about this....

https://mega.co.nz/#F!fBQzHDZL!Bvayug4C3FsfpvGIUrpfeA
[One (M9) General] itc518:
Pic with m9 of Hudson River Glens Falls, NY
[One (M9) General] StilsonCanyon:
I take it you used custom camera settings. If so, can you tell me what they were? I went to a show on Friday night and wanted to snap from pics, but I just couldn't get the camera to behave for me. In some captures the performers were totally washed out, and in others I couldn't get the camera to focus properly, due to low light and flash off, I presume. I just deleted them and enjoyed the show, rather than continue to be frustrated by the M9's camera.

Anyway, looks like a great show.
[One (M9) General] clemHTC:
My little contribution ! Photo at the zoo in Paris with HTC camera app
[One (M9) General] VictorC:
Good and bad...

Some shots - Auto mode (with sharpness -1, contrast +1, saturation +0.5)
[One (M9) General] graffixnyc:
Some comparison shots I took with the edge and the m9

https://plus.google.com/+PatrickHill/posts/dZ5mLa5mzAX
[One (M9) General] 030575753:
did anyone try the new firmware 1.36.709.3 that just release from Taiwan yesterday
[One (M9) General] frankcck:
What's your setting for M9?

hTc one M9 LET THEM STARE
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
Essentially i kicked up the contrast locked the (iso max to 200) I locked the focus on the brightest light (which was a ***** when the lighting kept changing), and I played with the shutter speed between sets.....

I wish I could lock the iso to 50-100 in the auto settings......

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Graffix, you need to lower your contrast or saturation that yellow tint
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=5235636]VictorC[/MENTION] contrast +1 is too high mate, it's crushing the black areas, i find +0.5 already high, i wish for a setting between 0 and 0.5

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an upcoming update for the M8 will fine tune denoise/smudging and fix the yellow tint in sunlight but i am also wondering which contrast did [MENTION=3537886]graffixnyc[/MENTION] use, in these photos it's stacking up nicely along the s6
[One (M9) General] rizevnarastek:
It serves to show how the S6 benefits from its auto-HDR algorithms.

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M9) General] v1rk:
Manual mode used- Iso 200-800, White Balance 4430k-5860k, Manual Focus, Shutter Speed 1/125-1/1000
[One (M9) General] smudgelab:
I just checked these and to be honest, with a couple of exceptions, I actually prefer the look of the M9 photos of quite a few of them. No technical reason why, they just seem to have a more pleasing feel to them than the S6 versions. Both seem really very, very good (to me) and as I've mentioned before, more than adequate for my needs but if HTC can make this M9 sensor more effective through software updates - fantastic. Thanks for that post by the way, very informative :) :good:
[One (M9) General] Rage1ofakind:
Have you guys tried doing time lapse videos with the M9? Amazing!! Did a 3 min timeless yesterday. Got it upto 30fps, so after the rendering the video became 2 seconds long. I posted it on Googe+ . The quality obviously decreased there but still looks great :)

https://plus.google.com/+RahanRaY/posts/Fmnh44Namej
[One (M9) General] graffixnyc:
I had contrast and saturation set to +.5 for the 4:3 shots I had it set to Medium size (also the S6 was set to 4:3) for the 16x9 shots I changed it to large
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
i am slowly reaching a realization that maybe we need just either controst +0.5 or saturation +0.5
[One (M9) General] v1rk:
The yellow tint was at 5860k although because it was sunny didnt get a chance to try another setting, the others was shot at below 5000k on mine
[One (M9) General] m4jkee:
What exactly should i add to build prop? only this two lines??

persist.denoise.process.plates=0

camera.eis.enable=0

Or is there any other things i need to do? What is that sourcecode for?

Thank you for your reply.

regards,

Michael
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
Freedcam received an important update:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=troop.com.freedcam

[MENTION=377973]defcomg[/MENTION] few comments about the new update mate, why does it say "Test" in the new temporal denoise? if you turn it on, the next time you go to the camera app it says "test" again, also thank you for changing the way the menus open but a new bug happened! when we play with the menus the center circle changes it position! :) and temporal denoise is it really working? (in my tests it doesnt show any difference)
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
Hi,

Viper Rom is updated to 1.3.5 with camera update from base 1.37.

here is a little comparison.

regards

starbase64
[One (M9) General] rizevnarastek:
More detail on 1.38 ...is the metering different or does it just seem so on the 2nd photo?

edit: most likely the Auto-HDR kicking in. :)

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M9) General] reubenskelly1992:
Looks better to me
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
i don't have more details for new ota, but more camera samples (untouched).

Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/k3efnup2rldwd80/IMAG0235.jpg?dl=1

PS modified version: https://www.dropbox.com/s/77sthb48gyjig8l/IMAG0235_optimized.jpg?dl=1

second with zoom: https://www.dropbox.com/s/etkavmi8qgt17wl/IMAG0235_optimized_big.jpg?dl=1
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=456666]starbase64[/MENTION] slightly hazy any smudging on your lens? :)

also rizevnarastek is right, the landscape photo with the center focus looks like HDR?
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
yes, i have anti scratch lens protection on my device
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
About temporal denoise we are unsure if it works we found it after decompiling the hal lib provided by starbase64, it was added as test everything we know about is by reading data flow chart and asm code .

nofilmschool.com/2012/03/temporal-noise-reduction-ipad-its-improvement

the menu change was not done by me it should be noted that [MENTION=5128617]troopii[/MENTION] does most of the developing so thanks should go to him.

but the center circle is for exposure Metering so you can move it anywhere but I'll pass on the message to troopii

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you should ask [MENTION=456666]starbase64[/MENTION] what works best or look at his samples

the first line is for denoise type second line is to disable sis

the source code is to see how it works as I got theses values from the m9 camera hal lib the source is how code looks before it compiled
[One (M9) General] acidspider:
Where do u get for lens protector?
[One (M9) General] troopii:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION]

Its not set on app start. Did this because if you activate both modes the app will freez/crash and do it the next time too when you start it. It has test as value that people see it thats for testing.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
thx for the reply, but i am confused about the center circle, what changes its location? since the focus crosshair is a square and i didnt know we can move the circle

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is surprising that they have it in there and very interesting, but it doesnt seem to do anything in average light, its temporal so maybe its associated with a shutter freeze to take multiple photos like HDR?

In general i must say that i prefer the M9 photos without denoise, i mean yes there is noise but the pictures are usable and detailed, Freedcam proves how usable the M9 sensor is in indoor light, kills 90% of the tiny pixels sensor last year
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
1.38 it's not the right base, correct is 1.37, a little typo.

Gesendet von meinem HTC One M9 mit Tapatalk
[One (M9) General] neo905:
I didn't realize EIS stabilization was disabled by default on the M9 until I was messing around with the Camera/Cinema FV-5 settings. Is that the case with others?
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
no its ON by default in the HTC camera app and it sucks
[One (M9) General] neo905:
Ok. But is the EIS enabled on the FV-5 better than the execution of it on the native camera app? I am finding the metering and focus much better using the FV-5 than the M9 version. It doesn't seem to be "hunting" as much on FV-5.
[One (M9) General] troopii:
the circle is to set the metering where the sensor should exposure.

all denoise stuff is postprocessing denoise.

it happens after raw picture is taken.

all postprocessing stuff reduce the quality.

the noise you see (with all denoise off) is the plain sensore noise, this can only get removed with correct exposuring the image and using always low iso.

i recommend for shooting raw always iso100 for that small sensor, thats the only way to get "noise free" pics

the movie explains why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8T94sdiNjc#t=17

i dont think that raw quality will get better with updates from htc. it will get only better when they activate 12bit raw. the sensor is capable for that and the source has the string already inside.

what can improve the quality is a better color matrix

this shows nice how it works in the background

https://developer.android.com/refer...ra2/CaptureRequest.html#COLOR_CORRECTION_MODE
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=5128617]troopii[/MENTION] [MENTION=377973]defcomg[/MENTION]

guys what about this: "On_PostProcess_Denoise(cam_frame_len_offset_t)"
[One (M9) General] troopii:
dont know^^ i think its the wavelet denoise

the final goal should be to deactivate all kind of denoise.

extended my previous post.
[One (M9) General] creepinm3:
I love cars...so you'll probably see a lot of cars from me.
[One (M9) General] ivicask:
PostProcess_Denois

TemporalDenoise

WaveletDenoise

DenoiseProcessPlat (controlable via build.prop)

Ill try to kill first 3 ones in camera.msm8994.so, but reverse engineering in IDA isnt so easy, i hope i get lucky with few guess n try's :)
[One (M9) General] troopii:
temporal denoise is off by default. seems that this only affects video recording

wavelet denoise is default on but can get disabled in freedcam.

Post Process_denoise is only the method to apply the selected denoise mode to the frame i think.

No idea what DenoiseProcessPlat does. could have something todo with cds but thats good for low light shoots.

but there are some params left i dont know what they do

human-joint-mode=0

rdi-mode=disable

secure-mode=disable

tintless=enable
[One (M9) General] ivicask:
human-joint-mode=0 is that stupid effect where it puts your picture on another picture, nothing important.. .)
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
Gents, i sent you a PM :)

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dude i know ;)

I find freedcam with all the quality options disabled able to do ISO100 a lot better than any other app out there and at much greater speed, i think all the ZSL options should be disabled by default for the M9 in your app

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this explains it
[One (M9) General] troopii:
the non-manual-zsl must be true i think for wbct, mf and shuttertime, also scene should set to manual

zsl should get set on appstart as it was when you left freedcam. but i must say i never cared about because the g3 has it default off^^
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
how CDS? it also doesnt stick and all the sharpness / saturation controls they dont stick either

and the top menu isnt it better to bring it from the bottom so it doesnt conflict with the notifications bar? equally when swiping right to exit the app we often get a shot by mistake :)

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few tests, these were done in average light

HTC Camera App, defaults, sharpness -0.5, ISO200, medium:

Freedcam, quality settings off, denoise off, sharpness 0, saturation +6, ISO100

JPEG100, in this one you can see the original sensor 1:1 precision and noise, reminder the scene was in fairly average light

JPEG100 + Photoshop Denoise + Levels

DNG to JPEG + Photoshop Denoise

for some reason you can denoise JPEG100 a lot better than DNG using Photoshop's Open As DNG
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
In liking the new viper update, takes decent photos, also seems that the auto iso is working, almost all my pics today are iso 50

https://flic.kr/p/snSuuM
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
probably because the raw is not calibrated properly for the m9 its using calibration from another sensor with a different type of lens.

M9 needs proper profile can you get access to a color color checker / xrite color passport to do some calibration?
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
https://slickwraps.com/htc-one-m8-lens-protector.html
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
But with freedcam its like another camera [emoji1] even ISO is not so hard to use in average light, wish we can introduce some sort of acceptable denoise to Freedcam

Personally I don't really care for DNG since I prefer usable JPEGs and at 100 it should be fine, but we always need to set sharpness at 0 since it resets to 15 every time
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
Meggen_29.04.2015_15-09 by starbase64, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] ivicask:
Me like too :)
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
Elspe_29.04.2015_16-22 by starbase64, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] creepinm3:
With the latest viper update. No HDR.
[One (M9) General] roryh86:
Sorry, but could you explain what the Viper update is? Is it a Custom ROM or a Camera hack/app? I don't suppose this is something I can use on an unrooted stock phone? :confused: Excuse me if it's a stupid question its really late and brain is half functioning
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
[MENTION=3391421]roryh86[/MENTION]

HTC One M9 > One M9 Android Development > [Rom] ViperOneM9 1.3.5...
[One (M9) General] blueberry60:
I love flowers and nature,here is a sample pictures from M9:
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
RAW incoming: (looks like it's still beta)
[One (M9) General] blueberry60:
What is best noise reduction function on freedcam ?
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
non :) all the quality options should be off, CDS if you want can be left on auto
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
HTC camera app update adds RAW support to the HTC One M9:

http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-one-m9-can-now-take-pictures-raw-format

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.htc.camera&hl=en
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
awesome curious is the raw 12 bit or 10bit ?

does raw capture work for front camera if it does this would be great for m8 users as it would contain needed profiles for m8 rear cam.

could you extract profile from dng captured so it can be applied to already shot raws .

dcptool.sourceforge.net/Introduction.html

from cmd dcpTool -d rawfilename.dng m9.XML

and post resulting XML file thanks
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
no problem ;)
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
interesting real world usage

most of the photos in this following article were taken using the M9:

http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2015/04/in-pictures-iss-2015-showcase-focus/#!prettyPhoto

more photo samples here (beautiful but smallish)

http://asci.vsco.co/media/553d56fa2556157a378b45a2
[One (M9) General] xsardax:
Guys, I've just updated HTC Camera, and there is no more ZOE or ...???

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M9) General] frankcck:
Thanks.

Don't know how to identify 10 bit or 12bit, but here you go.
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
use this www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/ drag the drop the dng on the exe file .

it will display a bunch of info

look for either black level or while level

if black level = < 64 that's means its ten bit raw

if white level = <1024

12bit depth white level should be about 4096.

8bit 256

10bit 1023/1024

12bit 4096.

anyway here is the dcp file should work for shots taken with dcraw by the way this looks like a really basic profile.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b7q7b8bjj5psig1/m9_Toshiba.dcp?dl=0

also is raw capture working with front facing camera?
[One (M9) General] zaaye:
Yep, you are right. No Zoe.
[One (M9) General] xxquicksh0txx:
Black level is 64, and white is 1023
[One (M9) General] Adam182:
- Adam
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
it's 12 bit:

black level 64 64 64 64

white level 1023

RAW only supports the rear camera and by the way it's awesome i will post more soon
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
Hi,

here is a comparison between HTC Raw and Freedcam RAW.

[IMG="test"]http://www11.pic-upload.de/30.04.15/mlxpfjgljbwj.jpg[/IMG]

Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/29881lic9e1xsnj/HTC_Camera_RAW_vs_Freedcam_RAW.jpg?dl=1

regards

starbase64
[One (M9) General] xsardax:
[MENTION=2725083]zaaye[/MENTION], what's the catch?? I loved ZOEs and did like 50 ZOE videos. Pihh

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
So RAW mode works great on the M9 and it's well thought

when you first switch to RAW camera, it gives you the option to change storage location and do you the good favor of recommending the phone internal storage for faster operation, the RAW camera has some settings of it's own so you will need to change to 10:7 aspect ratio if you want the full 20MP, even if you already had that set in normal camera, now the cool part: the interface is the same as manual mode but it's all set to auto, effectively giving you an automated camera with raw output, you can change the values to get a manual result, once you take a shot it takes a little longer to save it than it does for normal camera and the reason is simple, its saving a huge DNG file and a highly compressed JPEG version of the same image, the best part: you can still see the photo in the HTC Gallery thanks to the JPG companion photo :) once you go to DCIM you will find two files of each image, JPG and DNG

here is a processed DNG with manual values, ISO100 and 0.5sec shutter

Below you can compare PURE DNG vs Processed vs JPG Preview, also Manual vs Auto:

RAW mode, auto values (it went for ISO320 light was after sunset)

JPG preview file (as you can see it has HTC's Denoise)

DNG converted to JPG, pure (as you can all the Denoise and processing code is disabled)

DNG processed in photoshop (denoised, sharpned and detailed)

RAW mode, manual values (ISO100, Shutter 0.5sec)

JPG preview file

DNG converted to JPG, pure

DNG processed in photoshop

you can download the two DNG files from here (auto values vs manual)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7nalyaa6q58fmgh/M9-RAW-Samples.rar?dl=0
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
those values are for 10 bit the specs for the Toshiba sensor is that it can output RAW12.

https://luminous-landscape.com/expose-right/
[One (M9) General] zaaye:
Can't say. Has to be a bug. Zoe is a great fun feature as far as I'm concerned.
[One (M9) General] clsA:
I thought the same thing when the canceled support for the HD Media Link but sad to say it's true, they totally dropped it on the M9.
[One (M9) General] c5satellite2:
They ruined zoe. It's now an app and it has been horribly crippled compared to what we had. No more local creation, must be uploaded to cloud, and amount of source clips is limited. Please post a bad review on Google play so they know that we are extremely dissatisfied with this. Myself and others have already done this. #BRINGBACKREALZOE!
[One (M9) General] StilsonCanyon:
I was going to take advantage of the micro-sd option on my M9 and was considering a 64 gb UHS-I/U3 card. SanDisk claims their current generation offers write speeds of up to 40 MB/s. Do you think that is fast enough to use with the RAW format?
[One (M9) General] xxquicksh0txx:
It'll just take a while to save.

I've got a Samsung EVO 64gb microsd and it takes about 7 seconds to process where as internal storage takes a slightly more than a second.
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
is it this http://za.transcend-info.com/products/No-615

I think min write speed should be about 39mb/s but the additional JPEG that's saved along with the raw say about 50mb/s to save each within 1sec so if you can double that speed you can cut saving time to about 500ms but faster card is needed if you plan on taking lots shots at once / burst but for normal shots 40mb/s is enough even with additional jpeg as the data will be buffered.
[One (M9) General] xsardax:
According to [MENTION=223784]HTC[/MENTION], they didn't. I have asked them on twitter, and they confirmed that M9 supports it. Did anyone tried it??

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M9) General] clsA:
Yeah it's a known fact it doesn't work

Check here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3068914