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[One (M9) General] geoff5093:
Since you love quoting old posts, you'd see I was talking about the pre-release software and what was available on release day, not months later.
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
Lol
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
I see, that's nice then, how about PnP and battery improvements, are those from firmware directly right?
[One (M9) General] RSK01:
We need more photos. Here's a few I have taken the past few days. Most are jpeg renders from raw, except the last photo.

M9 Samples by Yik Lim, on Flickr

M9 Samples by Yik Lim, on Flickr

M9 RAW by Yik Lim, on Flickr

M9 RAW by Yik Lim, on Flickr

M9 RAW by Yik Lim, on Flickr

M9 by Yik Lim, on Flickr

View from hotel - Zhunan Taiwan by Yik Lim, on Flickr

Mix of Auto, Man, Night, Raw - unedited except for the one with flags and very blue sky.
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
I've been taking some photos with a Custom ROM which is based on 1.40 firmware, I'm still using 1.32.617.30 firmware though, however considering the camera updates are on the library rather than firmware, some of the upgrades should be there at some extent and I've felt it that way too. The following pictures were taken in with all settings on auto, no camera tweaks, just auto focus and shoot like an average user would do it :p

This is a bit dimm, but also consider it was taken at 5:27 PM (you can check details at exif data)

neighborhood auto by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

Macro focus tests:

leaf macro by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

water drop macro by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

coin macro by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

paint auto by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

plant auto by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] lawyerone:
can you please try more indoor and dim-light photos?

i'm quite curious about those shake and noises
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
Oh sorry did you find shake and noise in those photos, I thought they were ok I don't have very steady hands I guess :( I will tomorrow, it's almost midnight here, want me to take indoor pictures at night? The only one I got is this little bud I took around 8 PM at my room

url=https://flic.kr/p/ujGwge]figure night[/url] by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

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[One (M9) General] lawyerone:
Nahh, it's not bad from your photos. Okay then, will wait for your further post :) Thanks for the response

I'm just curious as the last time i got my hands on the M9's low light photos it's just disastrous. Very blurry and got lots of noises. I just wonder wether if those issues have been fixed alr or not :)
[One (M9) General] jauhien:
Check them properly, mate, which part of your body they actually grow from, then if they duly articulate, and so on.. :)
[One (M9) General] siemz:
With the video quality definitely not, could be the idea but feels like it's even improved!

The EIS works fine, also... No problems with this update at all to be honest.

I'm on the 401 base & Insertcoin
[One (M9) General] neo905:
What's 401 base? Do you mean 1.40? Also, the video has improved how? It's two biggest problems are the exposure levels when panning across a scene cause it to go very light and very dark. Second, any time you start walking while you are filming it is just plain awful. It shakes like crazy. The lack of OIS really hurts the M9 in this case.
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
They were fixed at some extent, but you'll need manual mode for most of photos indoors. All of these were taken between 5:00 am and 5:30 am on automatic mode using artificial white light, except for the angel statue which was taken under artificial yellow light.

Most of the times when there are shadows over the object or illumination is not direct, the camera supports on flash automatically, producing artificial results as you can see, personally I don't like it at all

IMAG0444 flash by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

If your target is close, you can get clear photos, not so bright though, that's probably a camera limitation for the f stop or the algorithm can't take long exposure shots, can't be helped. At least there's not a lot of noise because of ISO flying to the skies.

IMAG0449 auto by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

When illumination is proper and/or over the object, auto mode can take decent shots without raising ISO much, making the image clear

IMAG0443 auto by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

Auto Mode, 5:10 am under yellow light from a lamp on the room, hard to believe it was that early, this was by far my favorite one

IMAG0438 auto yellow light by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

If the object is somewhat 'far' the camera will automatically support on flash, if you don't want it will raise ISO to the celling, causing noise and distortion.; just zoom on flickr the image and check it out. This was just 640 ISO though, I saw some pass over ISO 1000.

IMAG0426 auto by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

In those cases, you can use manual mode with very low shutter speeds and cap the ISO. ISO 100, half second shutter speed, manual focus

IMAG0425 manual by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

This one I couldn't take any decent photo with auto, hdr, night or any preset mode. There was a shadow over the apple, and light wasn't getting close. Manual mode, 1/5 of a second, ISO 100, manual focus

IMAG0420 manual by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

This is the last one, no direct light, shadows around all of the table, very dim light.

First attempt: flash, very artificial results, high detail and 0 noise.

IMAG0455 flash by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

HDR, helps lighting scene but as expected from having a low dynamic range and using a high dynamic range mode, the noise is too obvious (less obvious than auto or night mode though)

IMAG0458 hdr by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

Auto/Night mode (I don't remember which one sorry, but both produced crappy results on par lol) ISO went up to 1600, no comments about the noise

IMAG0454 auto/night by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

Manual mode, 2 seconds shutter speed, manual focus, ISO 100. I think I screwed a bit the focus but I was tired at that point :p Even capping the ISO produces a bit of noise on the table surface, so that's taking the lens pretty much to the limit I guess.

IMAG0460 manual by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] lawyerone:
Great shares. Thanks for your work mate.

I will mostly use it for night/indoor photos, but not taking objects but rather human/people (ex: me, friends, etc.) And most of the time i'm not the one taking photos, but rather someone else, who definitely are not familiar with mobile photography. So i'm considering it's performance for low-light point and shoot photos.

Guess it's better alr than the one produced months ago, but still i believe the auto mode is not really that good. Hope HTC can come up with something. If there's at least a lil bit of hope ray rolling out in July, guess i'm getting one. If not, wait for the M10 (or go to G4?)
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
I noticed the low light photos are now too blueish with Auto white balance, better enter the manual mode and make the WB warmer or you will get blueish whites lol .

Must be because HTC fixed the too warm WB in daylight, now it's too cold for low light.
[One (M9) General] stevensgl:
1.3 firmware
[One (M9) General] jsaxon2:
Verizon m9 1.32 firmware using Viper 1.9
[One (M9) General] einrae214:
Just some random pictures
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
incredible [MENTION=456666]starbase64[/MENTION] i can see you are really enjoying the M9 camera now

you really truned the M9 using RAW + PSX into a professional camera :) even at night!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/maik_reifschneider/sets/72157651505923058

mate can i recommend that you sort your M9 album by newest?

hard to believe its the same camera in your OP ;)
[One (M9) General] CROrION:
Will m9 get longer shutter speed like G4?
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
how?
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
watching closely O_O cant wait for my m9 to shoot in manual mode and show you how to get the lowlight job done :cowboy:

peace it out till then :p
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
htc camera is always bad in previews, but i've taken great pictures.

here many samples from my m8: https://www.flickr.com/photos/maik_reifschneider/sets/72157644250211695/

edit: more samples > http://xdaforums.com/one-m9/general/htc-m9-screenshots-photos-bit-personal-t3059862

edit: m9 is ordered :P
[One (M9) General] tryfound:
You're so full of yourself. How dare I waste your precious time.

Make up my mind or sell? Sell what? Some people here asked to see comparisons with the Note 4 and I gave them.

To suggest that I should be tweaking manual settings on an M9 to achieve the quality of the Note 4's auto shots is beyond comprehension.
[One (M9) General] RSK01:
Chill... I think what the few "HTC hardcore zealots" are trying to say is:

1. The software on the M9 is not perfect or even good now, but we know HTC is always like that ....

2. The software algorithms will be improved over the coming months ... as evidenced in the M7 and M8

3. If by working the photos manually for now , and we can get a good photo, it goes to prove that, improving the software, we can get the camera to work "out of the box" in future .... how soon? We don't know, but there is a much higher chance now with the updates possible thru playstore.

4. For the M7, M8 and M9, we have a manual option, to overcome difficult lighting conditions. Unlike other phones......

I have been a HTC user since window mobile days, but have also been buying the S2, S3, S4, Note3, note4, iphone5s (pushing them to my wife) along with the HTC flagships. I think we have been thoroughly spoilt with the M8 (though a lot of reviewers slam the camera, quite a few of us are getting fantastic results, please see the M8 Photos thread). I am also very disappointed with the first reviews, but after seeing the new samples, I am fairly confident I am going to get the M9. The big push for me is F1.9 vs F2.2, but I cannot stand Touchwiz.

I would like to thank One Twelve for his technical insights into analyzing the photos and suggestions on how to try to overcome the current M9 software deficiencies ( I really hope it is only software). Maybe frustration has crept in, and the words did not come out right.

Peace

https://www.flickr.com/photos/31191230@N07/

All unedited - Some recent shots are from the HTC Re
[One (M9) General] tryfound:
Thanks, I made the effort to get as many pics on both devices as possible inbetween my working hours and weather conditions to get some usable shots so being told I 'wasted' someone's time was offensive and was not a good motivator to provide some manual shots which I'm sure will again be criticised.

I've taken some for my own testing but I won't be posting in this thread anymore, my photography skills are clearly not of the calibre required to be participant here (yeah I'm spitting the dummy, oh well). Peace out.
[One (M9) General] Corduroy-21:
Nice photos. Except from the HDR ones, they remind me of my M7 photos.

HRD more has problems many times with the skies and the exposure in my M7.

I think it's a fine camera for this kind of photos. Lacks in low-light, but I can live with that.

Please keep the photos coming. I don't pay any attention to the war in comments from fans and haters. The pictures speak for themselves.

Also, forgive me if you already did, can you tell me about some things?

Battery life (maybe a GSAM screenshot) and heating under normal performance (I don't play any games, but if it does heat with the occasional youtube/browsing).
[One (M9) General] jauhien:
Some yesterday snaps here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/we88grvt72bldy8/4PDA_REQUEST.zip?dl=0
[One (M9) General] RSK01:
I don't have the M9, but this is what I do on the M8, and it has served me very well, especially in low light conditions, works too in bright light.

1. In auto mode set the max ISO to as low as possible. M8 is 200.

2. If you still can get a good shot, try with night mode.

3. If that fails, try manual, you should be able to get a shot you are satisfied with.

Other settings to try is forcing the exposure setting by pointing at the screen till the AE lock comes on. The Exposure locking HDR trick is very useful too.

Hope we still have these controls on the M9.
[One (M9) General] tryfound:
Thanks, ISO can go to 100 but only in manual settings.

Can you explain this exposure locking HDR trick more?
[One (M9) General] rizevnarastek:
We've seen photos posted by Jesse on Flickr and those had sub 100 ISO.

You can lock exposure by long pressing on the select subject. The trick with HDR is to zoom in on a bright area, quickly lock exposure and unzoom then take the photo. The viewfinder should be much darker but the result will be a well exposed HDR photo.

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M9) General] tryfound:
I don't see where, 100 is the bottom of the slider on my phone, I can't take it any further.

So is that a workaround for something htc should be able to achieve automatically when selecting hdr mode?
[One (M9) General] th3:
Hey

Thanks for all the pics and feedback. End user data is always good and most of us appreciate it... [emoji3]

Just try moving the viewfinder around locking the exposure on a middle area if exposure metering is poor... until you see the correct overall exposure. But first, use EV compensation and WB, and lower the Sharpness to -1 and Saturation to normal. Then see what you get

Sent using Tapatalk
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
How does the speed of camera, opening, auto focus and look feel? Right now that's more important. It looks like they try to keep the shutter speed up by iso.

Sent from a mobile gadget...
[One (M9) General] th3:
Camera opening, taking pic and focus has been shown in reviews as lagging the M8. So I wonder what try finds...

The ISO is definitely being kept high to increase shutter speeds.

Sent using Tapatalk
[One (M9) General] rizevnarastek:
I don't know where and how exactly but this is a shot from Jesse Penico's Flickr album of M9's photos... https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/jpenico/

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M9) General] badboy47:
good in day light but so so in low light.
[One (M9) General] jaaystott:
Two pictures from the garden the other night. Only natural source of light was a very very small light and so the flash had a lot of work to do.
[One (M9) General] flex360:
youre drunk lol
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
M9 camera is very good for resized flicker size and Facebook only, once you want to use 12 or 16 or 20mp it goes bad
[One (M9) General] galmoham:
Something like that. Lol. Was rather trying to say S6
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
i hope so
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
Album > Edit in Organizr > Arrange > Arrange by date taken newest first

i dont know if there is a way to automate this in settings
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
ok, changed
[One (M9) General] einrae214:
What's is psx?
[One (M9) General] fernandezhjr:
Photoshop Express. It is one of the free apps in the Play Store that will allow you to edit and convert raw photos.
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
Hamdir, I didn't limit the ISO this time.....Lol

Plus no light pollution in Montana versus Spokane

Now we need like 30 second exposures :)
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
i have been on the 1.40 base for the past few days, sadly everyshot i took was either in low light or in the shadows

sharpness is amazing now, it has to be reduced for best results, but smudging in the shadows is still extreme, HTC is still hunting noise like plague

this is why i am still getting better results using RAW in low light or shade

look at this photo, taken 8pm would you believe this is the same camera being bashed everywhere? lovely dynamic range

this one taken at 9am but it was backlit by the sun from the right, so i went with RAW again

i can confirm few things, sharpness in auto is greatly imrpoved even in low light, so distance shots benefits the most as you no longer get the murky photo, also color balance is beautiful the green tint is gone

however we cant do anything for smudging in the shade or EIS artifacts, for that we need to rely on RAW, its funny this camera is doing wonders in low light using RAW

also i was able to test EIS, its definitely disabled in the DNG, i have a motion blurred photo where we can see the difference between the jpg alternative, EIS tries to corrected the edges while in the DNG we see good old motion blur
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
1.40.401.8 is finally pushing
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
theres alot of confusion going on in the web, most articles you read are saying the .5 firmware is being pushed but on XDA it says .8? clarification please?
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
.5 was the preview of .8, .8 is the final base

anyway the camera improvements were applied since 1.38 (test base)
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
Skickat från min HTC One M9 via Tapatalk
[One (M9) General] v1rk:
Both images taken on the new base, the image of the flower was shot in raw mode with all manual settings but not touched with photoshop or so yet.

Took the same images with the nokia lumia 930 and 1520 and uploaded all images to flickr in the link below.

https://flic.kr/s/aHskdeVxLP
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
i strongly recommend reducing auto sharpness to -1 or -1.5, its extreme

comparing the n930 photo to the M9 at 1:1 will quickly reveal the destructive nature of HTC's processing

-1.5 is perfect for me :)
[One (M9) General] v1rk:
will do thanks
[One (M9) General] DjLukeW:
UK update now available on o2
[One (M9) General] zeus4466:
it is .8 I have received it
[One (M9) General] ffodi:
Two pics with the new official FW.

ISO capped @ 200, sharpness -1, others on auto. (+ some PS Ex effects :) )

(Pic1)

(Pic2)
[One (M9) General] ffodi:
+1 "low light" pic

ISO capped @ 200, sharpness -1, others on auto, this time no effects applied.

(PIC)
[One (M9) General] RSK01:
Finally getting the 1.40 in SE Asia too. How appropriate on page 140 too.... YES!!! ....and on post 1400....this is wierd....
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
Another thing fixed, HDR works properly now
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
What's the default sharpening you're using, does the settings you set on auto mode also applies for RAW? This is a bit Off Topic but do you know any good software to edit RAW on Linux? I barely use windows =\
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
http://codecondo.com/top-photo-editors-for-linux/
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
I am using sharpness -1.5

sadly the changes in auto don't apply on the RAW preview JPGs and of course the DNG is unaffected by any processing at all which is the whole point

I use Photoshop Express on the M9
[One (M9) General] rizevnarastek:
No need for zooming and locking exposure as before? Is auto HDR on board?

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
i took over two dozen yesterday all using point and shoot auto focus, no need for zooming or lock anymore at least in ordinary low light scenes, sunset or daylight, you still need to lock for the odd indoor shot with a corner light (to be honest there is only one phone which nails this one on its own and that is the iPhone)

no auto HDR onbaord

here they are again on Flickr, point and shoot HDR
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
HTC One M9 - Distance Image Quality tests - Large 20MP 1.32.x vs 1.40x
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
wow thanks! :) Darktable was a bit confusing to me as a complete beginner and Rawstudio didn't read or write exif data properly on the M9 camera, but I'll give a shot to the others, that's big list :D wonder if AfterShot Pro is worth it

---------- Post added at 12:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:36 PM ----------

Well it makes sense :p everytime I use Photoshop Express I find my photos to have smudge or noise, do I need to raise the noise reduction? I don't wanna loose much detail
[One (M9) General] themuffinman:
Half Life 3 confirmed......
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
hey hamdir do you still recommend capping ISO to 400 or did they fix that on auto iso?
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
you dont need more than ISO800

its always better to cap it at night, anything higher than 400 or 800 is useless anyway because it will ruin your shot and auto max can go all the way passed 1600

there is nothing to fix, its the way auto ISO works on most Android phones....but this phone due to its extreme denoise, will start destroying any shot above ISO50, so yes its better to cap it
[One (M9) General] DoKaTSuYa:
Are these pictures took in Raw or Jpeg ? hamdir,

The ones with the sunset in HDR.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
point and shoot using the camera HDR mode, JPG ofcourse
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
Oh my bad, I forgot to mention this happens on low light (indoors at night for example) daylight photos are really good so far :)
[One (M9) General] morfini:
Hamdir, I left htc this year because of the lack of novelty in design and the bad camera. S6' s camera and screen are really good but I must admit I 've missed htc's m series features. Do you think m9 can match s6's camera quality after the update? Video recording has been improved at all? Early samples I have seen are very bad.
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
in system/etc there is some conf the htc cam reads values such as shutter speed has anyone attempted to raise the max value?

at 30sec should be easy to photograph even the mikyway

like this

Milkyway by defcomk, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
Dude.....I want
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
In daylight the camera now matches or exceed the s6, HDR works perfectly now, but not the rest

Anyway I have to say that with M9 camera even after the update, in auto mode or HDR, I feel I need to take many photos to get the perfect one, but RAW is so good, it insures a perfect shot with one take, I think it will become my default camera usage

RAW is awesome even in low light, In this mode the M9 camera becomes killer

Have a look at [MENTION=456666]starbase64[/MENTION] Flickr album, it's unbelievable

Last I must say people who prefer HTC software suit shouldn't have abandoned it for s6 (especially when the press lied, the s6 is the phone which overheats), they needed you to buy the M9, now there it's a chance there won't be an HTC left to go back to
[One (M9) General] Vogal:
View attachment 3359507

Point and click, all auto. Hdr.

Hometown
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
try edit this file

https://github.com/TeamONEderground...3b010845336be8ee20a5/system/etc/res_ctrl.conf

M_ISO=1600,800,400,200,100
M_VIDEO=3840x2160,1920x1088,1280x720,960x544,800x480,768x432,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144
F_VIDEO=1920x1088,1280x720,960x544,800x480,768x432,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144
M_SHUTTER_SPEED=1/8000,1/6400,1/5000,1/4000,1/3200,1/2500,1/2000,1/1600,1/1250,1/1000,1/800,1/640,1/500,1/400,1/320,1/250,1/200,1/125,1/100,1/80,1/60,1/50,1/40,1/30,1/25,1/20,1/15,1/13,1/10,1/8,1/6,1/5,1/4,0.3,0.4,0.5,0.6,0.8,1,1.3,1.6,2
M_SHUTTER_SPEED_MARKER=1/8000,1/1000,1/125,1/15,0.5,2

M_SHUTTER_SPEED=1/8000,1/6400,1/5000,1/4000,1/3200,1/2500,1/2000,1/1600,1/1250,1/1000,1/800,1/640,1/500,1/400,1/320,1/250,1/200,1/125,1/100,1/80,1/60,1/50,1/40,1/30,1/25,1/20,1/15,1/13,1/10,1/8,1/6,1/5,1/4,0.3,0.4,0.5,0.6,0.8,1,1.3,1.6,[COLOR="red"]2[/COLOR]
M_SHUTTER_SPEED_MARKER=1/8000,1/1000,1/125,1/15,0.5,[COLOR="Red"]2[[/COLOR]/CODE]

try change it to like 3 seconds if that works keep increasing value till it refuses the value

if you change it to 3 but it times out at 2 seconds this code

[CODE] if ( (v13 >> 2) & 1 )
_android_log_print(
4,
0,
"%s adjusted_line_length_pclk %x < original_line_length_pclk %x",
"sensor_calculate_exposure");
word_58CA = 0;
}

found in this lib https://github.com/TeamONEderground...ee20a5/system/vendor/lib/libmmcamera_t4ka7.so

also logcat this filter this "adjusted_line_length_pclk"
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
[MENTION=377973]defcomg[/MENTION]

great find, but max is 4 seconds :(
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
when you add 5 seconds does it appear in the apk ?

if yes

what happens stops at 4?

can you pm a logcat so we can track down where it gets stopped.
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
shot with 1 second
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
exposure time: 4 seconds

ISO: 1600

App: Photoshop Express for Android

4 seconds exposure time by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr