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[One (M9) General] defcomg:
Nice i can do star trails on the stock nubia camera app its as simple as point and shoot it auto merges the frames and also makes a video along with the images so you can see the stars actually trailing and on the newer model of my phone the z7 there is a galaxy photoing mode as with the star trail it does everything for you.

VID_20150101_225048 by defcomk, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
Awaiting your results :D

you will have to be far out of the city to avoid light pollution. 4s shutter just might do it.

Sounds like a lot of work, light painting would be easier.
[One (M9) General] RSK01:
Finally got the M9. Can't wait for the new fw and camera app upgrade.

RAW camera, unedited, cropped slightly.

Coffee Graveyard by Yik Lim, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
Bro I was on steep down stopped my truck snapped the scene and left :D
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
yea but that's not RAW, you uploaded the JPEG preview of the RAW image ;) the RAW is the DNG file, the JPEG file is useless as it has all the HTC processing on top, you need to open the DNG via file manager
[One (M9) General] Teo032:
Hmm idk I feel like it can be better still. Maybe it's the compression? Anyways I tested some low light pictures the other day with two different focal points, turns out pretty well for a quick point and shoot.
[One (M9) General] RSK01:
This way? Hope I am doing it correctly....

PSX_20150527_155359 by Yik Lim, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
yup all you need to do is cap the ISO for low light and use auto focus for daylight

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yup that's RAW ;)

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[MENTION=4524244]c5satellite2[/MENTION] [MENTION=5512893]One Twelve[/MENTION] [MENTION=377973]defcomg[/MENTION] the biggest challenge will be the motion blur, is it worth it to try without a tripod?
[One (M9) General] dlads:
Try a pic of a small window and capture the wall as well as not allowing too much or two little light through. Auto mode.
[One (M9) General] c5satellite2:
You can try, but I don't think it will be better. Very long exposures would require a tracking mount.

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[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
Have to use a tripod. With star trails the intent is to get a blur around the north star (or its counterpart if you are in the southern hemisphere) but you want it as fine as you can get. These are ISO 200. Then have to use stacking to create the final image..

Lumia 1020 Star Trails by Richard Dorman, on Flickr

Star Trails Due North by Richard Dorman, on Flickr

This is with the lumia 1020, a camera also limited to 4s. wow! and he did not have to leave the city :)

http://onlyfoolsandmobiles.com/2013/05/16/can-you-do-star-trails-with-a-phone-camera/

http://onlyfoolsandmobiles.com/2013/08/29/having-fun-with-the-lumia-1020-camera/

To get more fancy depends on whether the guys here can coax the HTC camera into longer than 4s exposures. In the article i linked to the stock OPO could not manage to output 30s raws without being modded. It could do jpegs though.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
wait do you mean earth rotation is visible in a matter of seconds?! my question was for images of the milky way like the one in your post
[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
for star trails it takes stacking 400 images an hour to show the earth's rotation. More if you want longer trails.

That is a 30 s exposure at max iso which in the case of the OPO is 3700. A few more images were taken and then averaged to reduce noise.
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
Couldn't find the pic I did for star trails years ago :( but well I used to do it with only one pic ! Shutter set to 5 hours with Canon 5DmII

But I don't think our phone can do same though !
[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
No, so you take several shots on time lapse and blend using custom software. The result is the same.
[One (M9) General] c5satellite2:
A few Canon DSLR cameras were also offered as astronomical variants if anyone is interested.

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[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
hmmmm amma try that later

What do u mean ? :|
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
Lol i gave it try milkyway is partially visible i shot it at ISO 4823 31 seconds but my location had to much light pollution this spot was the darkest i could find .

IMG_2015.05.27_23.55.42-2 by defcomk, on Flickr

DNG

ScreenRecord of me shooting star trail
[One (M9) General] stevensgl:
Nice photo guys
[One (M9) General] racingmatt1:
I'm looking upgrade my phone to the s6,LG g4,or the m9. Which one has the best battery life and takes the best pictures in most conditions?
[One (M9) General] darkmantra:
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Sunset, Sur Oman

Sent from my HTC One M9
[One (M9) General] hoopla man:
M9 or G4 or S6

Battery life wise, the M9, G4 and S6 are approximately just as good as each other. Only, the G4 has a removable battery.

Camera wise, the M9 is capable of great shots, but requires tweaking/ good photography skills to get there. It also has the best Manual mode currently.

But for the typical point and shoot user, the G4 or S6 would be better, as the situation stands today.

I'd say that if battery and camera are priority to you, get the G4.
[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
G4 camera is looking good but i wish there was a way to tone back the sharpness.

There is no sharpness slider like you find on the m9 :)

I find a lot of reviewers taking shots in HDR which is not a good idea if you want details to stand out.
[One (M9) General] dlads:
Nice pic that mate.

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Point and shoot I'd say the LG or the S6, the HTC is the one I'd pick though. No doubt about it.
[One (M9) General] petvas:
Would you say that even with the latest firmware?
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
I almost died from holding my breath to take this pic lol

Forced eis off and forced the ISO to 200 and 2sec shutter.......

https://mega.co.nz/#!HBAwgT4Z!4VylnAFC_pgcAuQsCQG61G2FJQgrnqhbAKb-uHMCAHI
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
Ps.....compression sucks
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
but why ISO200, it would have been easier with MAXISO, we can see a lot more stars in the DNG
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
Cause it's a mess if I do, I'll go take one real quick and show you, btw the blue screen issue sucks
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
blue screen? you mean the cold bias in screen colors? HTC will introduce screen temperature control in the 2.x/5.1 update
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
Like this, jump from raw back to regular camera and go somewhere dark, u will see
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
Max ISO (1600) auto kept defaulting to 80

2sec

https://mega.co.nz/#!fBB0ST5I!r9ymeGS-8akSEpkskW745Br0GrQJdwD1Go1PnvKJros
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
Another example
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
purple tint"? :confused:
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
Yep but if I force close and reopen it's gone and won't come back unless I open raw and then go back
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
sigh of relief, then its a bug of some sorts, let's hope its not a sign of something worse
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
This isn't the m7 lol
[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
Good you showed up :)

what do you make of this shot

Flaming Lips @ SXSW 2015 by James Whatley, on Flickr

Sky high ISO but the secret is the shutter time. Its fast at 1/125 and ideal for freezing motion. Course on the Z3 you can't set shutter so this was lucky to get in auto.

Blogger who took it on his Z3 was over the moon.
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
I'm very sad now, until I install this new firmware :)
[One (M9) General] stevensgl:
What firmware are you on? My M9 is still on 1.32.617.30. Hoping that HTC will push the OTA my way.
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
The same as you, but maximusHD has the new firmware, now I need soff
[One (M9) General] stevensgl:
It's my understanding some users here are flashing their roms and updating to 1.40xxx.

Given that I'm relativly new, I prefer to wait for the OTA to be released. I wonder whats taking HTC so long?

My M9 is factory unlocked.
[One (M9) General] OGhoul:
Same here; I bought the Developer Edition phone.
[One (M9) General] stevensgl:
I would think that a developer edition or maybe even unlocked version would be 1st on the list of OTA deployment. I guess not. :(
[One (M9) General] StilsonCanyon:
I bought the developer edition as well, primarily to get away from carrier bloatware, but also because I figured I would not have to wait for the carriers to sign off on the update. So, I too am wondering when the OTA will land on my phone. I'll be patient for a bit longer...unless people start posting more great pictures and raving about the other improvements. :)
[One (M9) General] stevensgl:
EXACTLY right!! The pictures that are being posted are AMAZING! That's what's driving me nuts!

I have version 1.32.617.30 and I can't really complain unless I'm taking a photo in LOW LIGHT. It becomes too grainy and the focus isn't all that great, on the other hand, in daylight the pictures are really good! (At least good enough for me) I hope to be posting some photos soon.
[One (M9) General] OGhoul:
You all hit the nail on the head. I've still been shooting with it, but I have the tweaks enabled (such as Medium resolution and Sharpness reduction) and they're generally very good. I just can't wait to be able to use the sensor's full capabilities, especially since the 1.40.x firmware also has an enormous battery boost.
[One (M9) General] lawyerone:
If it is, then... Ohh gosh.

My country doesnt sell the M9, so i cant claim it here like how i did my old M7. It certainly will cost lots of fortune if this thing got such issues
[One (M9) General] blueberry60:
Pictures based on 1.40.401.5 firmware (Many thanks to Hamdir for recommendations)

Medium Resolution- Sharpness: -0.5 (Perfect for me)

Medium Resolution-Sharpness: -1 (Good)
[One (M9) General] mwatson:
Looks good. Can you post a low light shot later?
[One (M9) General] stevensgl:
very nice photos!!!!!
[One (M9) General] aliHTCDHD:
Why do the pics have lots of fog in them? HTC One x suffered the same and only auto enhance or defog fixes it. Also how are you guys take awesome low light pics? If I take a low light picture with iso set between 400-800 it gives me a good balance between noise and motion blur but the images are still super smudgy. Finally how do you reduce the shutter speed to capture pics of the sky at night etc.
[One (M9) General] aliHTCDHD:
Some more pictures :D I also posted on Flickr but they severely lose quality.

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[One (M9) General] K00li79:
Use manual mode. You can set shutterspeed there. When in camera press the camera pictograph,this will take you to camera modes. You can also set it to hdr.

:)
[One (M9) General] aliHTCDHD:
Okay thanks. I never use Manuel mode, I just adjust iso and sharpness and take pics. I'm aware of hdr, I'm not that much of a noob ;) pics above your comment have hdr.
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
PSX_20150531_000511 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
[One (M9) General] mahdibassam:
Good colors and lighting with the M9 camera, photo taken at North harbour stadium in auckland.
[One (M9) General] barabico:
Alte Donau U1 by Hristo Hristov, on Flickr

in between by Hristo Hristov, on Flickr
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
PSX_20150531_000927 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
[One (M9) General] YorubaDey:
Well I mean, the camera on Z1, Z2, Z3 are all pretty garbage too. Requires some heavy manual adjustments for half-decent shots, unless it's in bright daylight. The results are extremely inconsistent as well. Sad to say, but Samsung is better by far. Heck, I'd take the M7 camera over the M9s, though admittely there are some really good shots in this thread. Software needs huge improvements, not only HTC.
[One (M9) General] m4jkee:
RAW. All auto. Only converted to jpg via Photoshop express. https://www.dropbox.com/s/r0zz6undsw4ookm/PSX_20150513_170049.jpg?dl=0

I upload more when i take some. Meanwhile you can check my instagram ;)
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
PSX_20150531_164852 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
Actually I find RAW takes great pictures most of the time, there's no need to huge tweaks or edit, but there's a lot of grain when you're viewing the image at 100% of the size

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Are you using HTC camera for your photos?
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
Yes, always HTC camera (raw).
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
PSX_20150601_075920 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
[One (M9) General] neo905:
Are you taking these pictures (especially low light) with the 1.32 and 1.4 firmware? I am not getting close to the detail in my shots. I took a picture of the sunset with trees below it and all the trees were blacked out even though it wasn't that dark out. I also notice the street lights in your low light shots aren't way over exposed like mine. You can actually make out the shape of the lamp and it's not covered by a burst of light.
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
new 1.40 software + firmware
[One (M9) General] neo905:
Thanks. Good to know.

Have you noticed any improvements in the video quality with 1.40? Namely, the shakiness of the EIS?
[One (M9) General] clemHTC:
Here photo at Stade France for the final of French Cup (Firmware 1.32, RAW edited with photoshop express)
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
PSX_20150601_203110 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr

PSX_20150601_203337 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
[One (M9) General] stevensgl:
Are you serious? These photos are awesome! Look I don't have 1.4 YET, but I think that after looking at these photos, we can't complain about the M9's picture quality. Now i guess it's safe to conclude that the camera has the potential to take quality photos, but the question is do we have to spend 2 minutes in setting up our m9 before every shot?
[One (M9) General] rizevnarastek:
[MENTION=456666]starbase64[/MENTION]

Beautiful shots man!

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
Raw mode with manual focus, all other settings on auto

Raw is processed with Photoshop express for Android
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
looks like a big improvement on the latest firmware.
[One (M9) General] stevensgl:
I tried installing Photoshop express on my M9 but it didn't work. I assume the users are using another version of Android when using PSX?

Also, has anyone tried editing the photos with the M9's stock editing software? (trying to find away around PSX)

Cheers
[One (M9) General] StilsonCanyon:
I was able to install Photoshop Express on my M9. Did the software not install, or did it not work after installing?
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
No problems here with Photoshop.

Here is a little video, in German, but you can see how it works.

https://youtu.be/AIVFbFO1x9g
[One (M9) General] frankcck:
As we've seen many spectacular photos here, I think I should drop this information here, for anyone who is interested in winning a M9 and SanDisk 200GB microSD.

Just simply share your best photo.

http://www.viewbug.com/contests/pushing-limits-photo-contest?linkId=14650395
[One (M9) General] stevensgl:
thanks guys I got PSX to work. I simply installed it from google play.

Keep those photos coming!
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
I am still using the new camera base but without the new FW, sometimes I get blue tint in very low light, but it looks like totally software related as the next photo is good.
[One (M9) General] stevensgl:
I'm not sure that I'm getting a blue tint, but when shooting in low light the photos aren't good at all. At least with firmware 1.3xxx. The good news is that we have a lot of hope riding on 1.4. (That is if HTC rolls out the OTA)
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
This sensor is noisy by nature but at least they corrected it in daylight, low light will still be noisy whatever htc does but at least they could decrease the yellow noise and increase efficiency of the digital stabiliser in next updates
[One (M9) General] stevensgl:
my low night photos are pixeled and lack clarity.

Firmware updates can only do so much. Some users have posted some really nice photos with low light.

Lets cross our fingers that 1.4xxx handles some of these gaps.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
If htc pushes the update that is, its possible that they would skip to the 2.x base which is currently in tester hands
[One (M9) General] ccsoccer03:
Question... I currently have an M7 but I'm very interested in the m9. I've read through alot of this thread (though admittedly I haven't read half of it because its so large), and I haven't heard much mention of 3rd party Camera apps. My question is, how much difference does the app make in Pictures? I'll save you the basic stuff, because I know apps have more or less features like raw,hdr, manual settings etc. What I'm asking is, from app to app (using the same settings or "like"), is there a difference in quality if you use, say camera fv-5 or manual camera? How much of the photo is the "camera app" and how much is it HTC Camera drivers, libs, etc.

Thank you in advance.
[One (M9) General] neo905:
And what does 2.X address?

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Camera FV-5 has auto focus before taking a image which the HTC Camera does not so you may end up with more blurry pictures with the HTC Camera App. That's the biggest difference for me anyway.
[One (M9) General] Rage1ofakind:
2x is the Android 5.1.1 update. So it will include performance, battery, Sense tweaks (maybe) & bug fixes. Plus camera will be improved upon again.
[One (M9) General] stevensgl:
Why doesn't HTC roll out their ota updates to everyone?

Is there a criteria when rolling out updates to certain htc modals?

thx
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
i belive they roll out to small markets first because if theres a major bug they rather have a small market deal with it than everyone.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
from what i've heard, sharpness code from 1.40 is further refined on 2.x less aggressive default, added screen color controls, guest mode and ofcourse all the improvements from Android 5.1.1

5.1.1 for instance greatly improved battery life and speed of the Nexus 5
[One (M9) General] StilsonCanyon:
Sounds like a great list of improvements. Is there any way to know when this will land on our phones? Are we talking one month, or three months?
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
1.40.x with the now known sharpness / denoise / sun balance improvements is imminent

2.x / 5.1.1 is expected between July and August (August is the schedule for the M8 so the M9 should be earlier than that)
[One (M9) General] stevensgl:
Thanks for the clarification. It makes sense.

Guess i have to keep wating....
[One (M9) General] d-pak:
Not what one would expect from a 20Mpx camera, but Way better than my M7 for sure...

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[One (M9) General] starbase64:
Oberelspe_03.06.2015_20-21 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
[MENTION=456666]starbase64[/MENTION] just curious, why don't you allow the view of the full resolution image? I'm back from the G4 camera thread and I wanted to compare photos at 100% zoom with the new 1.40 base, but your flickr limits it, while the guys of the G4 thread allow the full resolution image download.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
he wont answer, we've been begging him for that ;)

if you are comparing with G4 please note the improvements in the imminent OTA:

http://xdaforums.com/one-m9/general/htc-flagship-2015-htc-one-m9-snapdragon-t3078486/page5
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
That's great news, it looks really promising but looks like at this rate I'll have to wait for 5.1 update to get it, is there no official ETA about this or 5.1 update right? That's why I wanted to see it in action, but I found that problem :p is there anyone else using 1.40 official firmware update so far in this thread?
[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
What about EIS with stills ?

..and does raw bypass EIS.
[One (M9) General] stevensgl:
I have a feeling we're going to have to wait a while before getting the 1.4 update. :(
[One (M9) General] Sashtheflash:
I use 1.40. Too. And the difference is definately noticeable. The only Problem i found with that Base so far is that the phone Charges very slow now...
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
Yup buts its in beta version now that's why its not realesed world wide yet
[One (M9) General] ivicask:
You on stock or custom rom?
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
yes

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can you describe the slow charge? does it happen on the wall charger? CPU powersaver vs fullspeed?
[One (M9) General] siemz:
I'm on the 1.40 base with Insertcoin ; I notice no problems with the battery life since this update nor any bugs?

I do not charge any slower or whatsoever.

I really notice that the quality is drastically improved comparing to the older software, real happy with the Camera performance and cannot wait what future updates will bring.
[One (M9) General] neo905:
Have you noticed any difference with the video quality or specifically the EIS stabilization?
[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
Good, then there is nothing to prevent the m9 from competing with other raw shooters in general use case scenarios.

problem ? i'm not finding too many comparisons that include the m9 in shootouts. They are always jpeg with its attendant issues.
[One (M9) General] aliHTCDHD:
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[One (M9) General] aka120:
I'm no photographer, but this turned out pretty decent I think
[One (M9) General] lawyerone:
Can the bokeh in M9 surpass the dual camera setup ufocus from M8?
[One (M9) General] graycorgi:
The sharpness algorithm still seems way too aggressive (as noted in the link). It's extremely bad on the vegetation. I prefer the 1.36.x shots for those areas of the pictures. HTC should really reduce the amount of sharpening applied by default. 90%+ users who don't browse XDA are not going to adjust that setting. They are going to see crappy vegetation and be unhappy with it, and assume it is just a bad camera.
[One (M9) General] brockyneo:
Just a question ive just got a m9 was really not going to after all the bad reviews just a question tho is the camera what people call bad a software or hardware problem or a bit of both

I know there no ois but could they put digital stabilisation or something like that with a software update

Guess the main question is it a capible camera

Thanks
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
Honestly I couldn't care less about lazy users who can't look at options
[One (M9) General] graycorgi:
I agree with you, but it is important for HTC's future that those lazy users want to buy another HTC phone. They can't survive on the niche enthusiast market alone.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
Go back to general area and look inside the M9 collective thread, you will find the answer as well as everything posted in this thread
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
I just took these shots today, everything on auto. I just installed Android Revolution HD 7.1 yesterday, which is 1.40 base but I'm still using the older firmware (1.32.617.30) are the changes not only related to the firmware? cause I have the impression these are a bit more sharp then the ones I was taking before.

Pool M9 Auto by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

Pool M9 HDR by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

M9 Pool RAW generated JPG by Juan Carlos Alpizar, on Flickr

What do you guys think, is it just my imagination?
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
You get the new sharpness code without firmware since its library changes
[One (M9) General] ItsCoryWeston:
How does it feel to be so wrong

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The camera issues are purely software. Their is nothing wrong with the hardware. The M9 uses the same sensor as the Lumia 930 just with a lower aperture.