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[One (M9) General] eric7486:
The problem is that so many people wanted the EvLeaks edition to come out and when we saw the same design, we were slightly disappointed. Sure if it isn't broken, don't fix it, but my ocd won't allow those off center speakers to plague me anymore. I was slightly disappointed in the camera, it's like the just slapped any old camera on the back and expected it to do wonders. I'll have to wait till final software to see if there is any improvements, but I won't get my hopes up. I wasn't expecting the holy grail of phones to come, but some flare was definitely needed. They couldn't even wait to get off the stage when presenting it, that says a lot. Since they weren't upgrading the screen I was hoping for a few things, on center audio grills, wireless charging, and to get rid of those black bars...or at lease make the screen center, tired of my right thumb stretching out to get to the center of the keyboard in landscape.

I will say that I have never been a fan of Samsung design, but they definitely hit some marks on the board. Better camera with ois and better aperture! Though I definitely wouldn't mind some laser precision. Finally got rid of that cheap plastic that they have been reselling year after year. Great recharging, with wireless charging built right into the phone, big plus! Only gripe is that they could of put in a bigger battery, I don't need my phone razor thin! Lastly they finally toned down touchwiz, looks a lot more mature and less cartoony. Dissipointed in the fact they still don't have dual front speakers or that their phone speaker looks cheap, tops looks a bit cluttered. Also sad about the loss of their ip rating, removable battery, and sd card.

I'll have to wait to see what LG has up their sleeves, but for right now I'll be keeping my money right here in my pocket till I can see what they have done.
[One (M9) General] n3tr0m:
I agree. They changed what everyone was upset with (the camera) and didn't change the design (which everyone LOVED). Whats the error? If they did it the other way around that would have been a problem aswell I guess. It's the same with Samsung and their S6, they changed the looks (which most people hated) and removed the SD-card and removable battery (which everyone loved). It's not just HTC, although they didn't take AWAY anything that we loved, which Samsung did with their lack of SD-card. HTC just used the brilliant design from last year once again.

I wanted the design thatr EvLeaks made aswell, though im not dissapointed with them sticking to the M8/ M7 design at all. They fixed the biggest issue that most of us had problems with, the camera, and didn't change the good things, like the design. Samsung did change most of the issues we had over the S5 although they removed some of the highly liked features like IP-rating, removable battery, remove the SD-card support etc. In my eyes, HTC did the best by not removing anything we loved and still upgraded the thing we "hated", without removing anything. And it's still IPX3 rated, which is good for us who gets 200 days of rain each year .. :p And I guess the battery on the M8 and S6 will be awesome, although they are "small". The Exynos SoC and S810 SoC should help with that, aswell as the 1080p screen in the M9 and the S-AMOLED in the S6 :)

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Btw, does anyone know if the HTC One M9 will support the 300 Mbit/s LTE-Advanced mode? The M8 did support LTE-A although "only" up to the speed of 150 Mbit/s. The Note 4 etc supported the 300 Mbit/s if im not mistaken.
[One (M9) General] chazybaz13:
But whose fault is that? I've been around ppcgeeks and xda when you had to email olipro to get your device s-off, developed here and there but the constant entitlement of the recent community has stopped me from releasing anything publicly again. That and the fact that it's been proven Samsung pays users to post crap about HTC and other manufacturers on this forum bothers me. Left and right people are bashing HTC. It's very bizarre. Even the verge review
[One (M9) General] Nemeth27:
To be honest, I can't complain about the design yes it's basically the same I don't care for the two tone because it looks like they clipped a back onto the phone, but the gunmetal grey still looks great. I still think nothing can touch sense and it looks like sense 7 is even better. But some people are saying that they listened to the customers and fixed the camera. Has anyone read any of the reviews? They camera is not really good at all. Not only is there noise everywhere, now it's terrible in low light. At least the M8 was good at that. Unless software fixes it, the camera is worse than the M8. That is the issue with the phone. If final software doesn't fix it, then M7 users are better off buying a cheaper M8. They said that they put a lot of thought into fixing the camera this year. It doesn't seem like a lot of thought was put into the actual quality of pictures though. That's the disappointment..

They jumped right back on the bandwagon of megapixels is everything. One they jumped off of two years ago and obviously they were right. Too bad they are the ones to show the Android community that.

If I'm proven wrong in the released product then I will buy it, so I hope I'm wrong!
[One (M9) General] Scramjet:
Holy crap, yes. I was shocked to see the Verge review bash HTC so hard. Come on, people, be sensible... It's a tried-and-tested uni-body design that works perfectly, looks excellent and protects the phone quite well. I can't say the same thing of a certain previous-gen Samsung smartphone that had its screen shatter, the cover pop open and the battery fall out when it was dropped.

Furthermore, HTC upped the camera, and hopefully the final version will be markedly improved over what we currently have. Samsung has lost some of its flair in its competitor bashing. It never really did have flair, anyway. It makes good washing machines, dishwashers, bulldozers and solid-state drives... But not phones.

The S6 Edge is a giant gimmick - who wants to pay $100 more for a stupid curved edge? The M9 is a careful, incremental upgrade that addresses issues present in previous generations without trying something exotic and failing spectacularly. This is HTC's version of what was Apple's Mac OS X Snow Leopard back in 2009 - an under-the-hood overhaul.

I want to trade in my M8 for the M9 just for the new speakers and the camera, and of course, the dual-tone edges.
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
If you guys have been watching video reviews on the phone, as they are reviewing, they were getting software updates. The specs for the camera are all there, it's just software that has to be finalized. Over time that will come. If I remember, it was the same thing with the m8 camera in the beginning.
[One (M9) General] n3tr0m:
They DID fix the camera, no one said it was bad in low-light situations with the M8, they were complaining about it's performance in daylight for the most part as far as I know. They fixed that by upping the resolution to 20mp over the previously 4mp. The fact about noise in the images in the dark is something that HTC can't do much about to be honest. A normal DSLR with a APS-C sensor can't even get good images in low-light with such a resolution without using a very low-aperture lens and going with the high ISO numbers, and that sensor is way bigger than the one in M9 or Sony Z3/ Z4 etc. It's nothing the software can do about it I guess, it's because of the physical size of the sensor itself. They could have stopped at 8mp or 12mp if they were afraid of getting too much noise in the images in night-situations maybe? I actually have no idea when I compare my skills about this vs the folks at HTC. They now what they are doing :)
[One (M9) General] hgoldner:
Wrong. I have seen both the M8 and the M9 and the M9 is also an upgrade on the M8. CPU, screen, cameras and speakers are all noticeably upgraded, as is the battery. Only "loss" is the Duo Camera, which only ever worked unzoomed in auto mode, like, almost never.

One other thing, this constant fuss about the bezel at the bottom is just stupid. Anybody who actually notices it while the screen is on is NOT LOOKING AT THEIR SCREEN. (How's that for wasting battery life?) You do "notice" it when the screen is off, but then you're not using your phone. I just don't get it.

My name is Harold and I'm a flashaholic.....
[One (M9) General] t4duzan:
Coming from the AT&T Samsung Galaxy S4 here and the HTC Inspire before that. I'll be going to the M9 because it (and the M8) was heads and tails above the S5. Plus, if you want to root the phone, the S6 will be just as hard, if not harder to root. I can only put Touchwiz roms or bastardized Google Edition roms on my phone because of the locked bootloader. That is the main reason why I'm going back to HTC. Plus I've heard nothing but quality comments about how Sense has improved since I was a user. I wanted the nice renders of the M9 also, but am in the camp of understanding why HTC kept the design and making it better. HTC took a chance of destroying what base it took 3 years to build back up from the fiasco of too many phones and directions in 2011. The black, sleek renders with the hidden speaker at the bottom could've came off as too 2013. I'm still not sure how they could've gotten an aluminum phone to look that way; it looked nice but almost too plastic looking also.
[One (M9) General] n3tr0m:
Totally agree! I got the M8 aswell and I am up for buying the M9. Everything you say is either updated or upgraded with new components/ software tweaks. The black bar at the bottom makes it comfortable for my thumb at least (as someone else said somewhere), it raises the screen so that my thumb don't have to cramp together to reach the bottom of the screen. It could very well be only me who thinks that's a good thing though, but in my eyes the black bar is helping more than it is destroying the phone. Duo-Camera is the only "loss", which I used the first day and never again after. Its funny that after HTC explained they needed the black HTC bar because of the speaker components that people are still angry about it. Make a choice then, remove a thin black bar at the very bottom of the screen or lose the speakers. Should be an easy choice :)
[One (M9) General] cables2590:
I think this will be my next phone... Unless LG G3 pulls something that completely wows me... I don't think the Samsung s6 change much in form... Material yes but form not really... The only thing is the edge which has some potential but right now seems more gimmicky than anything... I am fighting every part of myself to not pre-order the M9 to wait for the G4... Ugh...
[One (M9) General] Scramjet:
Ironically, it was in 2011 that HTC was at its most profitable and at its peak. It's just that Samsung's and Apple's immense marketing and legal budgets, as well as HTC's failure to properly market the One X, that led to its downfall from 2012 to 2014.

I loved the Sensation XE, which was released in late 2011. It was a reliable, hardy phone that delivered. With a custom ROM, it just flew. I miss it; I felt like I had lost a good friend when I traded it in for my shiny new One M8 last year.
[One (M9) General] barondebxl:
There's a phone for everyone out there but you seem to think that there's only con's in those devices. If every phone you mention does not suit you then you should really build your own phone.
[One (M9) General] Nemeth27:
I understand that the new sensor won't be as good in low light as the M8(which I have), it I hoped that it would perform close to the iPhone camera in low light and better than it in bright light, since the megapixels are higher. I wonder what Apple knows that everyone else doesn't. Btw....I hate iOS, so don't think I'm and Apple fan. But I am a fan of the camera's on their phones.

The only thing that worried me was that there was a review that said the M8 was even better in normal light in some pics than the M9 is. I just hope that its just a software issue. I was just surprised that they said they focused on the camera as one of the things that they felt needed to change, but it is performing poorly.

In the end, if they fix the camera by time of release I'm all over this phone!!!!

Just not sure of the two tone look though..
[One (M9) General] n3tr0m:
Yeah, although the iPhone 6 camera is a 8MP one and not even close to the one on M9 in terms of resolution. The higher the megapixels the higher amount of noise it produces in low-light. Which is easy to see when you look at the pictures from Sony's Z series of phones which all of them got 20mp and they are terrible in low-light, even the Note 4 with 16mp struggles in low-light even though that camera is superb in daylight. If they adopted the same resolution as the iphone, surely the low-light performance would be better but it would (normally) reduce the quality of the images when you crop them out etc. I guess the M9 uses a larger sensor than the iPhone 6/ Plus aswell although not quite sure about that one. Sony did some amazing things with their camera after a few updates regarding the daylight performance in their Auto-mode, and I do hope and expect HTC to make the same kind of tweaking as Sony did with theirs. I just hope they are not struggling with it because it's not their own sensor, its developed by Toshiba (?). Sony got a much simpler job to optimize their camera on the Z series cause they are the ones who develop them in the first place. At least that's what i'm thinking, I might surely be wrong about it as well.
[One (M9) General] hgoldner:
They are still working on the camera algorithms for the M9.
[One (M9) General] max.barrett:
Just pre-ordered the M9 a few minutes ago.

Coming from the M7, which still satisfies me but I need some improvements over the time, I never fully liked the M8 corner-rounded style so the M9 is my choice.

If the M9 combines the more industrial design of the m7 with the technical aspects of the m8 plus sophisticates them even (64-bit, 3 Gig RAM, 1600 MHz etc. -> see here for a comparison between the m8/m9: http://versus.com/en/htc-one-m9-vs-htc-one-m8) than I'll be happy with it.
[One (M9) General] lonewolf083:
they can be had Wireless charging , but finaly no :rolleyes:
[One (M9) General] GermanGuy:
I'll be upgrading to the HTC M9 from my M8. Black bezel and lack of OIS do bother me, but overall nice device. Samsung for sure will not see my money. No expandable storage, edge screen is just a stupid gimmick and locked-down bootloader make this an easy decision.
[One (M9) General] DroidShift79:
I got too say Good Bye I9300 and Welcome M9 :D

Just ordered it today.

...I really was sooo into the S6Edge, but in the End, the M9 makes me feel something :P
[One (M9) General] robsonline:
I too wish the M9 would have been the revolutionary design; however, I currently have the M8, and I still think it is a great looking phone. My deciding factor will be if the M9 can be rooted and unlocked. I will not be getting the S6 for several reasons: rooting/unlocking unlikely, Touchwiz, possibility of bad battery performance, and lack of expandable storage. Now hopefully the wonderful XDA devs will be able to root/unlock the M9. :good:
[One (M9) General] 3DD:
I think it's too early to judge it's 20MP Toshiba camera above the 4MP UP camera. It's nice that it's moved to the front, although I feel like this is aimed at M7 owners who are going to have 2 year contracts ending. Aside from the camera and faster processer this seems more like a greatest hits of the M7 and M8. I'm happy it's still got some practical features that are getting phased out like a 1080p screen and a card slot.

So yeah, too early until it's released with the camera, but hopefully it will be more consistent than the M8.
[One (M9) General] .Ryker:
I mean, all in all, it still looks good. We can't deny that even though its not too different that leaves less innovation for the future. But all the same, they could have at least made the features of the phone a bit better. If their going to do that then why not wait longer to release a phone?

Anyways, If I end up not getting the M9 I'm going to get the Sony Z4.
[One (M9) General] rp3:
I wish they would make a second flagship... without the speakers. I love HTC's phones/software but I use my phone 50% on car bluetooth, 25 on my ear and 25 on headphones... the speakers are useless for my purposes and it's hindering the design language. Last year I did a t-mobile trade in of my LG G2 for a M8. Within a week, I went back to the store and asked for my old phone back (didn't like the bigger size, worse battery life, smaller screen and extra weight enough to make up for the microsd slot and speakers)... also a few phone trades later, I again have the G2). I would have liked it better with them using the black bar for buttons. (my all time favorite HTC phone design was the HTC One S/X, the last of the physical button, thin, stereo speakerless phones). Looking at where phones have gone since then, the One X body size with an amoled 5" (70-73% screen to body), 8mm thickness/2800 battery and snapdragon 810 would be a superior phone in style and function to almost every phone today.
[One (M9) General] geoff5093:
I agree. "Boomsound" is nice and all, but I only use my phone speakers for maybe 15 minutes at night while watching a few YouTube videos. All audio is going out over bluetooth, so for the majority of the time it just takes up space.

I'm waiting for proper reviews, but as of now the camera samples seem pretty poor. It reminds me of the Droid Turbo. Sure it has a 20MP sensor, but the quality sucks.
[One (M9) General] epsix:
My issues is.....no 5.5", was looking forward to hTC saving me from Apple. :(
[One (M9) General] deeevan:
If they do release a 5.5" screen phone, I assume it will come later... Like how the One Max did
[One (M9) General] fatmike922:
the phone looks great, deciding between this and the S6
[One (M9) General] _flow_:
Hey can anyone tell me if the m9 will have a ip rating? Or at least water resistance?

I have read different things some saying it will be resistant others saying you will need a case.
[One (M9) General] Icyman:
The S6 is like the latest model 1/2 ton pickup truck with a big V8 engine. It's beautiful, lots of room for your stuff and can pull a big camper to go out and have fun with the whole family.

The M9 is the 1 ton truck with a diesel engine that can pull a 5th wheel trailer with an exterior entertainment system, enough room for your family and your friends too; that everyone thinks they should have bought when seeing it driving down the road like a boss.

I wouldn't even consider a phone without an SD card slot. My M8 has a 64GB card installed and last week I had to start deleting sh1t again. What the hel1 would I do with 1/3 the storage space.

I like the functional design of the M8. When everyone around me has an iPhone, I'm glad it has the black bar with HTC on it. It let's them know I don't drink the Kool-Aid.

And BTW, No real man would ever complain about the branding label on the most functional phone ever made. Wear it like a badge of honor.

Fortunately, I have two upgrades ready on a 5 phone plan. So yeah, I'm getting two. The two DNA users will be very happy getting the M8 hand me downs.

But I would buy the M9 even if I didn't have upgrades. Watch how many M8's get listed on eBay after the M9 release. It's going to be crazy.

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It's splash resistant.
[One (M9) General] _flow_:
Cheers.

So no more texting in the shower then. I was going to upgrade to the s6 but If I wanted a iPhone I would have brought one.
[One (M9) General] vizzy:
Stupid question. Coming from an m7. On my nexus 10 there are mods to make the capitive buttons smaller and rearrange them etc is there similar mods available on the m8? .... I know it sounds silly, but the size of them seem massive when I've used an m8 before.
[One (M9) General] Scramjet:
I don't think the M9, by your analogy, would have a diesel engine - those are inefficient and polluting. In fact I wouldn't call either phone pickup trucks. I'd call the M9 a futuristic jet airliner, maybe the B787, that has really really neat features, is very functional but still manages to look and fly good and also has an epic efficiency ratio. Have you seen TechnoBuffalo's first-look video of Sense 7 on the M9? Man, that is a good phone
[One (M9) General] DonPhelippe:
So. This is the forum of XDA Developpers, i.e. more crazy and zanny than your average power user and always aiming first and foremost at power features and enablement and what not.

HTC has microSD.

Let me say that again.

HTC. Has. Micro. EFFIN. ESS. DEE.

All this phone lacks is a proper debloated android (read: AOSP / CM) to be perfect. I would buy the heck out of a google play edition (if there was one and if it was available in my country).

Looks mean absolutely nothing for me, and I could see myself going towards something smaller after Note3. Since Sammy lost me with S6 (no microSD, no qualcomm) HTC is the returning champ.
[One (M9) General] Scramjet:
'Proper debloated Android ROM'? Sense 7, and perhaps even Sense 5 and 6 satisfy that 'debloated' ideal. You can switch off BlinkFeed if you wish. Furthermore, AOSP and CM wouldn't perform as well as the stock ROM - they aren't exactly optimised, the quality is pretty terrible with AOSP on the One and M8.
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
As an M8 (and M7 before) here are my impressions till now, while waiting for reviews in the coming weeks:

-Design is boring for a 3rd year in a row, whatever it was sexy 2 years ago, now it's ''deja vu'' too much for a M7-M8 user.

-They could have at least use the hTC logo on the black bar as a virtual home button

-Camera quality, well I can't say a final thing as in some samples it looks awfully behind Note 4 in both day and night shots, but in other samples the quality and details are 3x better, RAW photos could be the key for more details.

-Sound quality, I think HTC will still be N'1 this year as Samsung didn't implement any sound quality plugin nor stereo speakers.

-Screen: Very deceived like fore the design, they could have upgraded to 5.2 or 5.3'' and QHD, battery is not bad at all on Note 4 while it's a 5.7'' QHD screen, and I prefer better and sharper wallpapers/photos than 3FPS more in gaming.

-Sense 7 looks promising with more customizable themes and even the Weather clock widget is transparent this time, Sense is again the best UI in Android world :good:

M9 vs S6 Edge:

-M9 will be available 2-3 weeks before the S6 Edge, and of course at a sweeter price.

-S6 Edge design is fresh and gorgeous compared to the ''old'' design of the M9 (again as a M7-M8 user)

-Loved the S6 Edge side notifications.

-For the rest still have to wait for final reviews of both devices as Note 4 Edge is not well rated for the curved thingy (darker screen, slippy for one handed use...)