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[One (M9) General] Super-Veloce:
I really would like to have the M9.. but reviews aren't that positive yet... I'll just wait 2 months and also curious what Sony is going to do with the Z4.. it also has stereo front speakers and a nice design.
[One (M9) General] caanda45:
I love the M9, the metal body has always been a cut above the rest since the M7, then 8 and now 9. What I would have liked is a fingerprint scanner for fast open, I think that would have been a nice addition. The other thing that really irks me is that the camera at introduction should have been thoroughly tested before introduction. That bad press at the beginning could be the downfall of this model year even if they fix it. I think that is inexcusable and just really dumb on HTC`s part....Sammy`s S6 had really no bad press at all...shame on HTC!!
[One (M9) General] barondebxl:
This phone looks to be a disaster after all, that snapdragon 810 is just troublesome.
[One (M9) General] barondebxl:
No it did not. I have the M8 right now. I was gonna get the S6 but with the battery life looking to be a disappointment I think I'll go back to the Note 4.
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Sorry I meant heavier than M8.
[One (M9) General] barondebxl:
I don't think it is heavier than the M8. I can't remember though. But it's a solid all around phone. So is the M8. If the M8's camera was really good then I wouldn't care about any other phone. That's what the M9 is supposed to be but now we have heating issues.
[One (M9) General] Prasad:
From twitter,
[One (M9) General] breaky9973:
I am hoping for a version of the M9 with the new Mediatek processor. :D
[One (M9) General] Prasad:
How does it compare to Snapdragon 810 ?
[One (M9) General] breaky9973:
So far there's only one benchmark published, which looks favourable : http://blog.gsmarena.com/mediatek-mt6795-smokes-snapdragon-810-geekbench-3-0-closes-exynos-7420/

This is a pre-release benchmark of course and doesn't say anything about how, for example the GPU performance is.
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
If HTC is rushing the E9 or M9+ into international markets and with a non s810, it means perhaps the M9 is a failure, as usual HTC discovered its mistakes too late.

Personally I will wait till May (my bday is anyway in May ;) ) to see how things will evolve, will the M9 be boosted in all levels thanks to the ''final'' software? Will the S6 Edge 64gb still be very expensive? Will the Note 4 Exynos get boosted by a new TW version with themes a la S6?
[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
It is a little troublesome but most of us know from experience that when a phone is overheated the battery can drain fast. I'm going to wait for reviews with final software.

The new htc protection plan looks pretty cool though.
[One (M9) General] kolembo:
Sigh.

I bought the note4 because I couldn't find the M8. Money to burn, I was really looking forward to the M9. I'd talked Samsung down since the horrendous S5 and was so sure HTC would up the ante.

Ooops. Exactly what happened to the S5 last year, has happened to the M9 this year.

It was a lazy, complacent approach to an important phone, deluded by in-house sycophants blinded by the previous 2 years of design success.

You can't sleep for three years on a single design. They DID listen to people about the camera and I think is excellent that they kept their innovative one as a front shooter but this two tone metal looks plastic I'm told - and they forgot that they forced the fight (thankfully so) on design.

Begrudgingly the S6 Edge is spectacular. The Huawei P8 and the LgG4 are the last phone's to look at: the Z4 is out of the picture.

I don't understand how they missed it, and is going to hurt them. Every phone out there is going to be gorgeous next year. That was their territory. It's the same thing that's plagued HTC from the beginning.

They get it right...and then get lost in the hype and try to play Big Corporation Games.

I'm going to call it - the M9 is a disaster. I'm going with the S6Edge. Sorry. Inside, I still love HTC. I just don't know how they're going to get out of this one.
[One (M9) General] zylith:
O.k. I am looking forward to this phone. I have the G3 now. Biggest waste of money. I will be glad to be rid of this. There is more to buying a phone than just the specs and pre-reviews. From my experience HTC is a great company- I am soooooo sorry that I went to LG. ( even after having the G2x). HTC stands behind their product and is open to development. I will be happy to be back with a company that puts their customers first.
[One (M9) General] SPreston2001:
Sadly, I too just ordered a Note 4 yesterday.... As a longtime HTC fan I need to scratch my upgrade itch but I couldnt bring myself to spending $650 on the HTC M8s (M9). As much as I hate TouhWiz, ive heard nothing but good things about the Note 4 so im going to give it a go and see if I like it. I still cant believe HTC let us down with the M9's design. Yes it still looks good, but everything gets old after awhile...
[One (M9) General] kolembo:
I just don't know how they missed it. I'm feeling for them because this year is going to hurt. You're going to love the note 4 by the way, it's massive. And...you're ABSOLUTELY going to hate Touchwiz! Worry not though - we're told some fixes are coming. Wait for the new updates then root yourself. I dare you not to love the S-pen. You'll wonder how you survived all this time!
[One (M9) General] tommason1968:
I went from a M8 to the Note 4 and I have to be honest compared to the Sense overlay touch wiz is not that great, it's slow, it lags sometimes badly, the phone will also totally freeze up from time to time. I'm really trying hard to like this phone, but compared to HTC the phone has issues that you didn't deal with using HTC. The good things about it is the screen size, how the screen looks, and the pen. I've read that rooting the phone cures most of the ills that the note 4 suffers from. In my opinion, you shouldn't have to root a phone to get it to work right.
[One (M9) General] Prasad:
Absolutely agree! After using the M7 since launch (which I totally loved, by the way), I switched to the Sony Xperia Z3 at the start of this year. I bought it because I loved several of it's features and improvements. Now, don't get me wrong but the Z3 is an incredible phone with 10 hours SOT (screen on time), amazing camera, waterproof, performs flawlessly (zero lag), but I missed several things that I was so accustomed to due to ease on the HTC, like contacts integration and the great sound (Beats Audio) without having to root or unlock bootloader, among other things akin to Sense. And since HTC is launching this new device, which is an improvement involving all they learnt from the last two devices, I find no better a time to switch over. So I sold the Z3 just last week and am now eagerly awaiting the M9. :) Might I say, that Dolby Surround is quite the icing on the cake!
[One (M9) General] tommason1968:
There really is something about a htc phone. The only reason why I haven't dumped this thing early is because I use the S-pen features quite a bit during my job.
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
M9 camera is bad, the screen still need confirmation for being bad too, it still heat after the final update but it's manageable (taiwanese review), Sense 7 is certainly superior to TW but Note 4 has superior hardware.

I hope M9+ will have a screen and camera on par with Note 4
[One (M9) General] defendthat:
Do you have a m9? ?
[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
You have a link?
[One (M9) General] Adam182:
I know right, to be so critical of the M9 you would think he has one in his hands.

In his dreams maybe - Adam
[One (M9) General] defendthat:
Starting to wonder if HTC fan boys go to the Samsung thread to bash their phones but no we are more mature than that
[One (M9) General] Adam182:
Yeah I wondered that aswell and had a look, nothing. A lot of Samsung "fans" seem to spend more time over here in the M9 section than in their own dwellings. They must fear the competition - Adam
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
If you are saying I am a samsung fanboy you didn't check my signature.

Here taiwanese today's users reports:

https://translate.google.com/transl...om/topicdetail.php?f=566&t=4315203&edit-text=

Here a review also from Taiwan

https://translate.google.com/transl...5%BD%B1%E9%9F%BF%E4%BD%BF%E7%94%A8&edit-text=
[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
If this is on new software it would appear they have under clocked the cpu.

---------- Post added at 08:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:25 PM ----------

In defense of vegetaleb I've seen him around for a while.
[One (M9) General] defendthat:
Any one can set a bogus signature and further more every region makes different m9 so the way Taiwan is USA might not be
[One (M9) General] mrshades812:
If they underclocked the processor to cover up the heat issue, that would suck. I'll wait to pass judgement on it until the US release.

I can see quite a few returns/lawsuits if they are promoting a 2.0ghz phone that runs @ 1.5...

Sent from the future...
[One (M9) General] tommason1968:
I'm really hoping that HTC releases a m9+ with a stylus. I will pay whatever early upgrade fee and get it.
[One (M9) General] Chocolina:
Oh wow, last week I was really excited about the M9, but since then, everyone's been ****ting on it hard. Starting to rethink it. But I hear bad things regarding Exynos when it comes to custom rom selections...
[One (M9) General] th3:
My opinion but I don't view the soft, development and UI side of Samsung anywhere near that of HTC Sense.

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[One (M9) General] Corduroy-21:
I'm not so excited either. I'm thinking of replacing my M7, but M9 does not seem to be that good. The worst thing for me is that I don't find many alternatives.

I can't stand the looks of S6 or TouchWiz, although it is a very improved phone to the S5 and also its battery life has taken a turn for the worse.

I'm also not optimistic about the new LG flagship. I liked the G2, but not G3.

I'm starting to think that maybe it would be wise to just get an M8 cheaper now instead of going for the M9.
[One (M9) General] ijat91:
So far all the feedback from users here are not really promising, hope HTC can further improve it before officially release it. Want to switch to HTC as qualcomm have better support for custom rom but as for now, better to wait for review first after HTC finalized the software
[One (M9) General] Adam182:
Well, there are very few users actually on here that have the device in hand and those that do really like the device.

The only people bashing it are the ones who don't have the device (and likely never will nor want) and are basing their judgement on pre-release reviews/information.

I cannot wait to receive my pre-order, i know its going to be a fantastic phone in all aspects - Adam
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Still not convinced to buy the M9?

I like this tattoo :silly:
[One (M9) General] zaaye:
Source?
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Htc community Taiwan website
[One (M9) General] th3:
I've pre-ordered one from o2 UK. £172 they are paying for the M8

But if it's sh*t, I'll still call it sh*t.

Pig with lipstick is still...

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[One (M9) General] Adam182:
£172 for the M8 doesnt sound to bad i would like to think i could get slightly more on ebay though even after charges but theres the hassle of delivery, packing etc.

Its good to know you're willing to give it a go - Adam
[One (M9) General] EchoX860:
I'm still very excited for this phone. I couldn't care less about camera, the tweaked look, Sense and hopefully decent battery life and I will send my Nexus 6 back
[One (M9) General] th3:
I'm a HTC fan since Desire, and I've never hid it :o

So I want to test it out myself before I say something for definite... Try to make it work and fit my needs with tweaking (3 requirements: better screen, better battery, better camera). If it works for me, I'll love it, if not, I'll pass on it. But I'll be badly disappointed if it doesn't live up to my expectations of HTC.

Yea, you can get £250 on eBay but I got my M8 free so I don't mind.
[One (M9) General] nipun1110:
Hello guys, I am not a tech genius or sth. I am just an enthusiastic who loves to flow with cool new tech stuffs and I am a huge fan of HTC. I have been using M8, before that M7, even before that Desire S for a really long time. Here are a few opinions of mine on the latest M9 & Sense 7....

HTC M9 isn't still quite out thea, but sense 7 is, due to the courtesy of some great developers. Now, yah, HTC has been drawing their attention by their sense skin for a long time now. Some ppl used to hate it than the default google ui or some used to like it. but since sense 5 i guess, those dislikers decresed in no a lot. Sense 5 & 6 were too beautiful in comparison with others at then. Sense 7 is also great. Those theaming capabilities are too much awesome IMHO. But there I have a problem too. U c, google's own ui was never praised this much b4 they brought lollipop. With lollipop, everything went upside down. People are more into google's default rom these days than custom ones. Most of the devs changing their app's ui into materialistic design, but here HTC probably doesn't care about it. U c, from top to bottom, u will not find any single feeling of materialistic design in sense 7. Yah HTC's own people/phone app has the most intelligent brain than that of any other rom IMHO. Even their msg app has the best integration engine for same contacts with different numbers n so on. But those floating dialing button in phone app or plus button in msg app in google's lollipop has a very feel about it. Why HTC opted those things? Even the new clock app of google is much more cool than that of Sense 7. Overall if we could delete that new "theme" app, sense 7 would have remained same-to-same as Sense 6. Here HTC'S promo was "something big is coming", but from software to hardware nothing was so big about it for HTC. Why didn't they bring something this time which could keep ppl in awww n wouldn't let them look into any other direction. M8 & M9's ultrapixel was so much praised for it's low light capacity. Then why HTC has used a f2.2 lens this time?? Why don't they take it a bit more seriously. This year HTC could blown away anyone if they only could bring an outstanding camera & maybe a few other little things like wireless charging or fingerprint scanner etc. Even single camera improvement could be enough for many. I have been some people's review about camera sample. Those are not that much satisfactory.

I am a die hard fan of HTC, that's why it makes me upset when I see HTC didn't do much as they spoke.
[One (M9) General] legend221:
With all the overheating reports I was hesitant in considering the M9. I have read today that they are already in final stages of TWRP for this device which makes me jump back to the HTC side. I love the look the from the videos how fast, fluid and responsive it appears. The theme and optional 4th button on the onscreen navigation bar really peaked my interest. I recently reformatted my current device and love the ability to root, unlock the bootloader and flash a custom ROM. There are way too many benefits in that, I just hope we are given an option for that in the Verizon version of the phone.

If we just get root on the M9 and S6 then I might just end up with the Samsung.

I will continue to monitor what happens in the following weeks or months of both phones.
[One (M9) General] lopri:
Not sure if serious..
[One (M9) General] Heisenberg420:
Samsung and mediatek don't share kernel source
[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
Kernel is software not hardware and kernel source has to be published in a reasonable time. It's the drivers I believe you are thinking of.

But yes Samsung soc is very difficult to put aosp roms on.
[One (M9) General] Prasad:
HTC Dev [official] seems to always provide a bootloader unlock mechanism for HTC devices, so I doubt there'd be any issues rooting/unlocking the M9. I'm pretty sure there'll be good support for the Samsung as well, atleast from third party developers, if not from Samsung direct.
[One (M9) General] lopri:
The processor will run at 2.0 GHz when it is not thermally challenged, albeit for less duration of time, so it really does not affect the advertised spec. 1.5 GHz is probably the frequency of A53 (LITTLE cores). All CPU-Z shots I have seen report the frequencies of A7/A53 for whatever reason.
[One (M9) General] Chocolina:
What really bugs me about the M9 is the SnapDragon 810 that I've been waiting more than a year for. Its been having overheating rumors since December, or even slightly before, and now its almost April and they're more apparent now than ever before. Even if the overheating is done during intensive benchmark tests, its troubling for me as a gamer that wants my device to be my "does everything" device. So I'm worried about how hot the device would get when I'm playing a game like Asphalt 8, or a PSP emulated game.

Also the rumors that the M9 isn't the same screen as the M8, but infact worse, is also a little upsetting. If the Galaxy S6's storage isn't too expensive for 64 and 128GB models, I may finally adopt a Samsung device. I know what you can say about Touchwiz, but as long as you have- OH **** I JUST REALIZED XPOSED DOESNT WORK ON LOLIPOP OH GOD IT BURNS.
[One (M9) General] rkial:
Can someone tell me what HTC did over the last 12 months to improve their flagship?

Sense was updated and added a dual tone to the finish.. what else?

They just went with the industry standard for the SoC and picked a different camera sensor and couldnt finish the software till a couple of weeks after handing out review units.

I have stayed away from Samsung because I hated bits about their phones... and I'm still not sure if I want the S6.. but at least I can see what they worked on over the last 12 months.. EVERYTHING.

Come on HTC... this is very disappointing.
[One (M9) General] Prasad:
Apparently, there's a joint announcement on wednesday from T-Mobile and HTC USA. Seems to me like launch day out here!
[One (M9) General] Chocolina:
So wait... what did you expect the M9 to be when they've been receiving high-praise for the past 2-3 years for their design? Did you expect them to fix something that wasn't broken? Of course the natural route the M8 was going to be was a refreshed, higher-performing version of the M7, and it'd be common sense to expect the same of the M9. Except for the overheating and clocking woes that no one was expecting, on paper, the M9 is either the same or better in several ways compared to the M8. And I don't see why that is a problem, or why anyone would have a problem with that. Its like people were expecting something like a downloadable switch blade instead of standard incremental improvements that all the other popular devices go through.
[One (M9) General] SPreston2001:
Ok but what you don't seem to understand is that not everything on the M9 is an improvement based on a lot of the reviews! The screen is said to be worse, the cameras 1080p video recording is terrible, some of the photos are looking worse, and the battery life is less than it was on the M8! How do u expect people not to be disappointed?? I can see if they knocked it out of the park and everything about the phone was better, but to recycle the design (again) and take a few steps back in some areas is completely unacceptable. I love HTC as much as anybody but to justify their approach to the M9 is just crazy to me...
[One (M9) General] Prasad:
The final camera software hasn't been tested by any reviewer yet. But I get your points.
[One (M9) General] rkial:
I love with the design. It's a shame when that is the only thing people can think of when defending the M9.. Well.. that and sense.. which I really like.

HTC had plenty of time to work on improving their camera.. but they are still talking about the camera software not begin ready... 3 weeks after launch.. a week after it was supposed to go on sale in India and other regions (I think it on sale in a couple of countries.. not many)

That is pretty amateurish.

Again.. I hate bringing up the Samsung comparison because that makes me sound like a fanboy.. and believe me.. I am anything but. But they managed to squeeze plenty into a 6.7mm thin phone. They even got in OIS and wireless charging. HTC couldnt find a way to replace the black bar (not that it has ever bothered me). The phone isn't notably thinner or lighter or has a lot more crammed into it. If they need that space below the black bar, they could have tried to fit in a larger display.. Something to cover it up. Reduce the bezels. Use that space better. They did nothing.

There is no fingerprint scanner (i thought it was useless till I tried it on the iphone and it actually works very well and is very convenient.) There is no wireless charging. There is no OIS,

I thought with a bigger battery and a 1080p screen, the battery life would be stellar... That is an important feature... one that is often overlooked. But even that has regressed.

Most OEMs go with the industry standard. There will be plenty of S810, 3GB ram, 1080p display phones. What are HTC doing to sell their product.

It's beautiful.. sure. The UI is not stock.. but its great. But they already had both in the bag. Why didnt they focus on improving what was missing.

Are you seriously telling me all their engineering efforts went into adding themes to Sense and adding another tone to the metal unibody? Because that is all they are talking about.
[One (M9) General] barondebxl:
The M8 was a solid phone with a bad camera and now the M9 seems to be a phone with a disappointing camera and worse battery life than the M8. Theres no way I would buy an M9 after being a very happy M8 owner. Makes zero sense and I don't think its an improvement at all.
[One (M9) General] Chocolina:
You made it sound like a completely different thing with the cliche "They might as well be samsung" approach. It sounded like that time people were upset because because HTC kept doing what everyone liked last year and changed everything they didn't like. Before people starting getting their review units, before the talk about pictures and throttling, no one had any idea how the M9 performed in any category. They saw the official spec-sheet and official images and were all "Booooo!" Even though on paper the M9 is almost perfect.
[One (M9) General] jauhien:
How can write such bull****?

Did you operate the M9 handheld by yourself for any reasonable while?

It's already a week as I've purchased M9 and heavy using it while still holding M8 with me due to no TWRP for M9 available.

After a week usage I prefer the screen of M9 to M8 screen.

The new Dolby Audio boomsound is a mind-blowing experience and never known or even possible before in mobile phone history.

The both software parts: the smartphone interface itself (Sense) as well as all my versatile operational environment perform so steady, so solid without even a minor lag noticed throughout the week!

The similar reliability of software I remember I was feeling feeling when handling Cisco hardware.

The next crap is your statement about M9 battery life.

My M8 got S-OFF within 30 minutes after it was purchased last April, furthermore I have uninstalled about 60 apps and widgets from the stock Lollipop 5.0.1, moreover I am hand-picking and monitoring every single app to ensure it is not affecting battery.

Here now in M9 I do not have even ROOT, it is complete stock right from the box - and it beats HTC M8 in battery life hands down.

I just took screenshots to illustrate.

About the heat. The handheld becomes warm if it is plugged into the wall charger and at the same time you're giving heavy load on its outstanding Snapdragon 810. Is it wrong???

After reading your dishonest typing without even working with this incredible piece of hardware (which often called a piece of jewelry because it incorporated the best from M8 and M7) - I wish you will give your money to Samsung accomplishing a foolish but well deserved self-punishment for 2015 year of Life.

J.