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[One (M9) General] petvas:
Yes, it's a matter of taste. I prefer to see the colors I see with my naked eyes. The picture I posted of my garden with 0 saturation has the exact same colors I see when looking at my garden with naked eyes. If I use 0,5 saturation then the pictures do look great, but are not realistic.

The M9's screen is perfect for me. It has very accurate and realistic colors and I love it. This was not the case with the M8.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
are you sure these two are not flipped? it doesnt make much sense
[One (M9) General] itzsnookums:
You know with fauxclock you can turn up the saturation....... It's amazing
[One (M9) General] petvas:
But only if you root your device, right?
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
This is seriously seriously weird and I can't find any real explanation

Plz have a look at these pix and read its description and it's exif data and compare them

https://flic.kr/s/aHska7PXfy [MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION] check this out
[One (M9) General] poko2121:
petvas I just installed the update and I see what you're saying. 0.5 saturation is no longer necessary in my opinion. I took a picture before the update then the same one after the update and 0.5 saturation before the update looks like 0 after the update.
[One (M9) General] petvas:
For me this update is nothing new. The question is, are the other settings also ok? I think sharpness should be -1. The rest I agree with Hamdir.
[One (M9) General] poko2121:
I have my contrast at 0.5 saturation at 0 sharpness at -1. iso max at 200 unless it gets too dark
[One (M9) General] petvas:
That is exactly what I use too. I like the pictures the M9 takes.
[One (M9) General] poko2121:
Ya I also am using 10:7 medium. so far pics look good. I'm not too demanding on a phone camera. When I want to take serious pics I always use my dslr.
[One (M9) General] augie7107:
Still think this camera is fine regardless of all the complaints.
[One (M9) General] davidtm0:
Some macro shots using 16:9 Medium, Sharpness -1.5, Saturation and Contrast both +0.5

This is after this AM's update to 1.32.651.30 (Sprint USA)

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[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
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Saturday ?
[One (M9) General] Duncan1982:
Iso 200, saturation 0, sharpness -1 the rest I can't remember :P
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
Which software version.
[One (M9) General] poko2121:
version 1.32.651.30
[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
1/5 @ ISO 100, foreground in focus

2s @ ISO 100, background in focus.

What's inteteresting about these two is even though the second got ten times the duration as the first the light levels look similar.

Does the 2s help to add more detail in the background that you could not have got with the shorter exposure ?
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
What is weird
[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
night mode on the m9 ?

all it seems to do is boost ISO. which is what auto would do anyway. so what good is it.

On the xperias, night mode is low ISO and long exposure.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
no night mode does slow down the shutter as well

i still dont understand his issue, i guess he is wondering why the manual mode with ISO800 is worse than night with ISO1600

[MENTION=1237654]sallam5010[/MENTION] the photos from the cafe are really good, manual mode?

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DARK ROOM - HDR

In my first attempt for this shot, In a fully dark room with only the aquarium as a light source, I have zoomed to lock into the light source in HDR and the results were good but slightly over exposed the light source

Sallam is right, the best way to do this perfectly on the M9, is to simply lock focus into the light source in auto mode (you can confirm when the scene darkens around your focus) then switch to HDR and shoot

notice the preserved detail of the aquarium
[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
2-Night.jpg has 1/5 @ ISO 1600. ISO is still too high, the m9 can definitely do better.

you then subsequently slowed it down further to 0.5 -0.8s and lowered ISO to 100-200, basically implemented your own night mode.

neither do i.

it's come out really good but this locking and then changing to other modes is a htc only thing.

On other devices there is no way to keep the exposure locked and change modes. You'd have to pick HDR mode, focus on the light to set the exposure and then recompose if necessary. come to think of it why don't you just do that in the first place.
[One (M9) General] poko2121:
Why does locking exposure in auto then switching to HDR mode differ from just locking exposure in HDR mode? Have you guys been noticing all HDR's look better with exposure locked first rather than auto exposing?
[One (M9) General] sotroof:
M9

Dunno what's the fuss about M9's camera being bad... I certainly had a lot of fun with it. I can't post link but if interested, look up my Flickr username "vmwt" and HTC m9 album.
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
[MENTION=5512893]One Twelve[/MENTION]

On night mode ISO is 1600 1/5s and still much lower ISO noise that manual mode ISO 800 1/5s !

Open the pix with full brightness and full resolution and u will understand me.

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[MENTION=5512893]One Twelve[/MENTION]

On night mode ISO is 1600 1/5s and still much lower ISO noise that manual mode ISO 800 1/5s !

Open the pix with full brightness and full resolution and u will understand me.
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
Check those pix

Left is night mode with ISO 1600 right is manual mode with ISO 800

Night mode got something going behind it in noise reduction with greatly preserved details
[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
More sharpening taking place in night mode over riding your own settings. Can see a few more halos in the night mode shot.

It's really slight though.

eg. From Saadi's review, one in each pair is in night mode. can you tell which.

1/10 ISO 800

1/10 ISO 800

or this pair

1/10 ISO 1600

1/6 ISO 800

So I don't know what night mode on m9 is good for. You can do better yourself.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
exactly sharpness controls apply to auto and manual, in any other scene mode they can not be controlled
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
From first pair I would say second pic is night mode

Second pair I can't really tell any difference !hmmm
[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
An app you guys should check out (demo has a watermark in the centre of the screen but not a big deal)

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anthonymandra.rawdroid

What i like about it ?

You can overlay exifs data on the photo. You can choose what to display in the settings. Say just exposure and ISO or even histogram Then you can swipe and have that data appear instantly. its for viewing raw images but it will work just great with jpegs. This way you can test out different settings and see whether your image improves much quicker :)

Couple of sallam shots. There is a colour cast in one, wb got tricked but how to tell in the field. Notice the histograms of the second are further apart than the first. That is one clue.
[One (M9) General] Joplisan:
A quick guide for those of us, who aren't as familiar with manual mode as most of you here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svM-FhJxqd8

I was always a little bit too lazy to read what a certain setting actually does, so this was quite useful. :good:
[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
Yeah, saw max's video yesterday. he says not to use auto focus. auto focus sucks bla bla.

you MUST use auto focus to get exposure right.

What he does is uses manual so that then you can tap anywhere on the screen and exposure isn't affected. This is actually harder than hamdi's tips. Notice when he's pointing at the cooling fans, the m9 goes green and is ready but he prefers to tap. Not necessary.

You just have to point the m9 at your subject and it will get focus automatically. Low light is the only exception or when it cant get focus by itself.

This does not happen on other devices. if they have dual stage shutter for example. You need to tap some where or half click.
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
HTC One m9 Flickr Album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/maik_reifschneider/sets/72157651505923058/
[One (M9) General] Allesa:
I'm a bit puzzled.

These are three shots taken under same light condition.

First and second shots were done on manual, iso 400 1/6 & 400 1/8

the last one was done on auto, limit iso 400, shutter obviously on auto capturing at 1/7

How come the auto shot is noticeably darker and noisier than the two on manual? Three of em on 400 iso.

Logically speaking, the 1/8 manual one should be darker than 1/7 auto right?

[IMG="Manual ISO 400 1/6"]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7613/17120959301_4ff65f02fc_s.jpg[/IMG]

Manual ISO 400 1/6 by all3sa, on Flickr

[IMG="Manual ISO 400 1/8"]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7725/17121011601_39dbcc4364_s.jpg[/IMG]

Manual ISO 400 1/8 by all3sa, on Flickr

[IMG="Auto ISO MAX 400 1/7"]https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8777/17095652976_d1600ef1b2_s.jpg[/IMG]

Auto ISO MAX 400 1/7 by all3sa, on Flickr]all3sa[/url], on Flickr
[One (M9) General] aliHTCDHD:
My M9 picture collections

pictures taken with M9 with sharpness -2 and iso below 200 (besides a lowlight picture and HDR.)

Can the OP please attach this to his collection. More pictures will be coming :)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/131682595@N02/sets/72157651909030821/
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
finally this should end the debate about a new camera update:

http://www.androidcentral.com/us-ve...0001&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

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but did you use auto focus? your photos are slightly over exposed, the number one rule in M9 photo club is: always use auto focus ;) i also think some of your photos has EIS kicking in, so you need to hold your hand until the shot is fully captured, finally sharpness -2 is too low especially since you are using medium, go for -1 or -1.5, they look too soft

, I loved this one:
[One (M9) General] LSpizzle:
Here are some I've taken using VSCO Cam....
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
HTC One M9 Flickr Group > https://www.flickr.com/groups/htc_one_m9/
[One (M9) General] victorinoxs:
M9 vs S6 comparison: http://goo.gl/0FtcZa

I have to say, it's better than I expected, but still a bit behind S6 I'm afraid, despite the higher pixel count....
[One (M9) General] c1-p8:
Ok... but it's just a bit. Absolutely not bad :good:
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
M9's camera is not so bad in daylight, what is obvious is that the majority of daylight photos are over-exposed.

In low light the S6 is way better though
[One (M9) General] Adam182:
I'm so pleased with these results!!

All you need to do is crunch the blacks, increase the vibrancy and tweak the exposure and they will be on par with the S6 for sure.

I'm thinking with manual settings you could even exceed the S6 - Adam
[One (M9) General] th3:
Look at the foliage... That is really bad. All of is smudged.

Look at the sides away from centre, even in macro, and background behind person... Badly out of focus, blurred. No detail at all.

There's extreme sharpening there, and it does look like artifacts from too much compression. I wonder what the default setting is... +2?

I'm happy with the colours, saturation and WB in daylight to an extent. At 10mp, they'll look fine.

Definitely not dim/low light though.

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[One (M9) General] Adam182:
I don't think you'll ever be happy man, what will you be using your photos for exactly?

I cant even think of a use for them to be 10mp let alone 20mp. who are these people immediately zooming into a photo 100% instead of actually enjoying the photo subject and its composition.

You could zoom into a 5k monitor and if you got close enough it would look terrible - Adam
[One (M9) General] gavinfabl:
How does anyone know if this was photos taken with the M9 final firmware prior to release? Even if it is or isnt , the shots from both are fine.
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Hello bro!

I am eagerly waiting for your photos of M9 :good:
[One (M9) General] th3:
Not fb/insta selfies anyway [emoji14]

I obviously have different needs/expectations than yours. You want MP and I need IQ. My usage is:

1. Cropping and sharing, zooming into distant area's/landscapes to get details you can't see with your eyes. Minimal if any post processing. I travel every 2-3 months in places that it's hard to go again (places without basic amenities). I tend to take the shots there. Mountains/Landscape/Sky/Water/Foliage is a major for me as is dim lighting. I can take a lot, but smudged/blurred out? No

2. Macros of vegetation, food and the animal world.

3. Cars and around home. Even around home, +85% of my family/other pictures are dim to low lighting. M8 struggled badly in this use.

4. Middle East, Africa and Asia 40-50C indoor and outdoor shooting. I travel there, a lot. Blown highlights/shadows is a major.

Shot some recent all auto with M8. Pretty crappy but random, quick snaps (funeral). The M9 pics above don't look like it can even replicate them.

I'm waiting anxiously to see M8 vs M9... Because that's my benchmark. Not S6, because I know S6 is too far ahead, and I don't care for it. It's not something I'd buy.

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[One (M9) General] Corduroy-21:
These are the best examples from M9 that we have seen.

Most of the photos are very good for everyday smartphone use.

For anything more demanding I always carry my DSLR.
[One (M9) General] Adam182:
You should treat yourself to a dslr, it sounds like no phone camera would do the kind of photos your taking any justice. I bought one in 2013 and have never looked back, one of my best purchases in recent years.

Cropping/zooming in on any phone camera to see details the eye cant even see is going to cause a world of pain no matter what.

I have to disagree though, theres no way the S6 is "too far ahead" to the everyday user they are like for like - Adam
[One (M9) General] dondavis007:
I havent used a computer to look at them, but my phone it looks much better than the djungledrum has been telling. It's the first final firmware so I looking forward to a real review. If the camera is good and they can do some magic for the battery I'm sold. It's a HTC so I know the rest will be optimized. This written on a Note 4 with a great cam and laggy interface :)

Sent from a mobile gadget...
[One (M9) General] th3:
Already have a v.good cam, I don't need that much. DSLR is way overkill for these trips. You don't have that much time or balance to get a capture. Nokia, S6 and iP6+ already have the level I'm after, pity M9 failed to match. But I'm not about to buy non-HTC...

1. Big cam useless without too much weight/size/cost.

You can't carry past your phone in most of those places, as the terrain is too harsh and dangerous and you need both your hands and balance elsewhere. Your batteries finish too fast (no electric). And we're talking £600 range here is.

2. There is massive smudging of detail on these photos and its not acceptable by any standards. My M8 shoots better foliage and away from centre.

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[One (M9) General] gavinfabl:
Wont be long :)
[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
I'm looking at these at full size on my computer and there is no clear winner here. My m8 could never take pictures this good. These all look great. If this is the result I'm sold on the camera.

Granted you may be really into photography and are seeing things I'm not but I'm happy to see these pictures.
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
Reading tons of reviews the M9 is good in daylight even better than Z3 though not as good as Note4,S6 and Iphone 6+

In low light it's a smudgy mess
[One (M9) General] th3:
All the major reviews are saying detail is washed/smudged on the good daylight shots.

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[One (M9) General] CandyAndy:
HTC did it, they actually managed to make camera even worse than the much bashed M7 and M8. However have to say that I always found M7 and M8 cameras to be quite nice for what purpose they were. Maybe HTC here is trying to say "see, we told you megapixels don't count!"

Anyway huge fail for HTC and I assume that hard times coming for them this year. Samsung and Apple will be laughing. It's a shame really, always liked HTC the most.
[One (M9) General] gavinfabl:
Check out the Zdnet review. Link to Flickr set with M9 vs M8 vs Z3 vs iPhone 6 Plus. Worth a view and probably the most realistic so far. Also, Pocketnow review highlights the fun camera modes, highlights and Zoe missing on other brands. Headphone audio is mentioned by gsmarena as the best ever.
[One (M9) General] tryfound:
Getting my M9 tomorrow morning, just 12 hours to go. Will try to take some pics during the day and then some indoors at home tomorrow night and post here if anyone is interested.
[One (M9) General] defcomg:
if rooted edit build. prop and try add this

persist.camera.HAL3.enabled=1

and try use a camera2api camera
[One (M9) General] ivicask:
I checked latest .30 sprint base, camera is 100% same, only few camera drivers are changed, some are related to image processing like denoise, exposuretime, gamma , HDR, gain and similar image processing.

Heres flashable zip if anyone want to check if there's actual noticeable difference, which i doubt..

View attachment 3259702
[One (M9) General] ivicask:
Interesting, in zip i added changed files are libmmcamera2*, maybe thats the 2nd camera api changes than.
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
api2 compatibility test: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2_compatibility_test
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
well drivers are indeed changed, then thats interesting, considering that the main issues are denoise, exposure time etc

anyway ill just wait for the next proper update, no rush
[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
Did not see Michael's

review

posted, interesting framing. Not seeing any exposure problems so he was using auto focus. The low light could have benefited from a ISO cap though.
[One (M9) General] aliHTCDHD:
Do you mean autofocus as in letting the camera focus?, I manually focus on several different places till I find the right picture. I also take lots of pics then decide which is best. Regard EIS, yes I agree photos do look soft however Flickr has downgraded the quality of my pictures. I promise you that the pictures look more sharper on my phone. The only pictures that are terrible is the picture of the chicken and macro shots of the flowers don't show as much detail of the petals as I want. I will take a few at -1.5 to see the difference. I am going to move my pictures on to dropbox to see if I can get the quality 1:1 with actual pics.
[One (M9) General] xxquicksh0txx:
When everyone says autofocus they mean to just pull the camera up and without touching the viewing area, hit the capture button. So you're not tapping to focus on one certain spot. Basically, just point and shoot. HTC's metering is normally spot on.

This doesn't include HDR mode.
[One (M9) General] iggdawg:
I normally don't like "fun" photo tools, but this pic works for me for some reason. I just like it.

Also, it's cool to see some Boston mixed in this thread with all these far away locations.
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
comparison between the S6 and the M9, 2 Nokias (808 Pureview and 1020) + Panasonic Lumix DMC-CM1 > http://smartcam.club/node/3284
[One (M9) General] Jonathan-H:
Quite a scientific comparison that. Different street, different cars, probably different distance, no idea of settings. I have to say with all that said, considering the S6 is meant to be the most amazing camera in the phone world, it's not winning by much of a margin...

These are the favourites from a my weekend. I think they were HDR. Slightly over bright but manual was struggling with the sun.
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
S6: ƒ1.9 ISO40 1/1808

M9: ƒ2.2 ISO50 1/1221

the most cars have the same size in this world

yes, samsung is amazing. but i've bought a m9 :p
[One (M9) General] Jonathan-H:
Lol good reply :D Good choice too :D I was more meaning distance to camera though hehe
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
HTC One M9 vs. Sony QX100

M9: ƒ2.2 ISO200 1/80 4,7mm 20MP

QX: ƒ2.2 ISO200 1/80 10,7mm 20MP
[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
do you have these images on flickr somewhere ?
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/c8zvf9vgw1ji34b/AAAbcgb2XXsPNtq4wXtTVB-Ca?dl=0
[One (M9) General] Adam182:
Heres a tasty one I snapped yesterday...

- Adam
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
HTC One M9 vs. Sony QX100

M9: ƒ2.2 ISO100 2 4,7mm 20MP

M9: ƒ2.2 ISO1600 1/4 4,7mm 20MP

QX: ƒ2.2 ISO1600 1/4 10,7mm 20MP
[One (M9) General] poko2121:
An issue I've noticed so far is focus speed when taking flash photo in dim lighting. The flash will turn on to help the camera focus and then it will flash once it's focused, but by that point the people I'm taking pictures of are almost blind :)
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
+1
[One (M9) General] One Twelve:
it looks different because qx100 is using multi metering so clock appears brighter. maybe its better if you set to centre weighted. Have seen similar between note 4 and s5 and it led people to conclude note 4 was better but when metering was the same there was very little difference. Centre weighted makes for a more clear shot if unevenly lit whereas multi will equalise the lighting and introduce a little haze.

Why did you use default sharpness for m9 ? we saw earlier -1.5 or -1 will reduce sharpening artifiacts. This appears to be beneficial when subjects are not too far away like in this scene. But your earlier grabs showed that default sharpness works better for landscapes or where objects can be seen much further away.

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Hmm are you sure third one is correct ? seems too dark for ISO 1600
[One (M9) General] p50kombi:
First quick shots

Haven't had a chance to give the camera a good run for it's money yet, but managed to shoot a couple of really quick pics on my lunchtime walk today...

I have to say, for just quick snaps, I was quite impressed...

Bokeh

Macro

Auto
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
goods

[IMG="manual mode"]http://www.flickr.com/photos/132417641@N07/16960045620/in/set-72157651765271206[/IMG]

[IMG="auto mode lock on brightest area then hdr"]https://www.flickr.com/photos/132417641@N07/17146940231/in/set-72157651765271206[/IMG]

[IMG="night mode"]https://www.flickr.com/photos/132417641@N07/16959800118/in/set-72157651765271206[/IMG]

[IMG="night mode"]https://www.flickr.com/photos/132417641@N07/16961408179/in/set-72157651765271206[/IMG]

[IMG="night mode"]https://www.flickr.com/photos/132417641@N07/16959829698/in/set-72157651765271206[/IMG]

[IMG="hdr"]https://www.flickr.com/photos/132417641@N07/16961408279/in/set-72157651765271206[/IMG]

[IMG="auto mode"]https://www.flickr.com/photos/132417641@N07/17146041932/in/set-72157651765271206[/IMG]

[IMG="auto mode"]https://www.flickr.com/photos/132417641@N07/16967715009/in/set-72157651765271206[/IMG]

[IMG="hdr"]https://www.flickr.com/photos/132417641@N07/17146052192/in/set-72157651765271206[/IMG]

[IMG="auto"]https://www.flickr.com/photos/132417641@N07/16961454419/in/set-72157651765271206[/IMG]

i really dont know whats wrong with xda not shwoing my pix links anyways heres my link to flicker https://www.flickr.com/photos/132417641@N07/
[One (M9) General] Rage1ofakind:
Dissapointed in the day light bright sun photos though :(. As its finally looking lovely every day here in London. Thought I'd take a few sky shots / sun rise shots.

But every time I take a pic, the sun is over exposed / too bright. If I lock into it, the surrounding then is too dark. Tried HDR as well :(.

The M7 used to snap those scenes in seconds and it used to come out perfect.

Anything I'm doing wrong?
[One (M9) General] sallam5010:
Rely on auto focus and don't you ever tap on view finder or else you will get what u hate
[One (M9) General] Rage1ofakind:
That's what I normally do. Auto focus. To be fair, most cameras over expose the sun but the Ultra Pixel cameras were amazing at getting balanced pics.