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[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] snorklm:
Hi all. I am hoping for some very basic advice. I got a Kindle HDX 7 a few days ago. I have not connected it to wifi yet to avoid automatic updating of the firmware. When I go to settings>device>system update it tells me that my current firmware version is 13.3.0.5 installed on Jul, 30, 2013. From all I have read that is a good thing if I want to root my device.

The big question I have is if I actually should?

In a perfect scenario I could just replace the fire OS with a normal version of Android and not have any hassles. But I have heard that could play hell with battery life and I haven't actually found a good guide on how to do that safely with a KF HDX, so back to just rooting.

-Is there a comprehensive tutorial on how to root my device with it's current settings? I have looked but it is difficult to judge what is old/outdated information and what still works.

-How safe is this aka. how likely am I to brick my device just by rooting it (I'm a tech savvy user, but I wouldn't dare delve deeper than that) and how buggy are rooted devices if at all?

-How would I keep my device from upgrading automatically after rooting?

-Isn't the point of upgrades also to plug security holes that would compromise personal data? How would that work with never upgrading?

I would appreciate if the experienced rooters amongst you could advise me on this. Thank you!
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] lekofraggle:
Welcome. It is nice to see these questions asked before you have broken your device, as opposed to after. While I am by no means an expert, here are a few answers to get the ball rolling.

This is entirely doable, not all builds are buggy.

Not completely, but since root is what you are after currently, go to the dev section and check out the roundup on the rooting tool. Read through the posts.

However, it is simple for you to root. You can go to towelroot and do it that way. Regardless, I suggest reading the dev threads to see some of the other options. Also, there is some good info in the rollback, now what? Threads in this section.

All it does is give you the option of allowing root permissions to an app. Root in it of itself is perfectly harmless. It won't change the function of the device at all if you do not utilize this new power. However, if an app (or you), change the wrong file, it could be devastating.

There are some block updates threads. Probably the easiest is to use the kindle fire xposed plugin (I think that still works). Be careful with xposed. It does allow you to make changes which can make your device unstable.

Yes, and achieving root access is looked at as a security hole by Amazon. You also will be missing out on new "Features." This could include KitKat. Although, you can flash the new software with TWRP which if done correctly will be stable, but that will require a lot more reading. It is really only the custom builds which are unstable. They are buggy because they are not quite finished. Head over to the dev section to find out more. In the end, it all comes down to what you plan to do with it, and how much you plan to learn along the way.

Good luck,

Leko
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] DB126:
Hi Snorklm - welcome to the forums. The title of your post made my day :)

If you haven't already read through the response from Leko. Hits all the important points and mirrors what I was going to write (beat me to the punch).

Some additional thoughts:

- Be sure to block OTAs before connecting to WiFi. Your options will become much more restricted if Amazon pushes an update.

- I prefer HDX Toolkit to block OTAs. Xposed is great (I use many modules) but does carry some minor risks as Leko mentioned. Note HDX toolkit requires a tethered connection (standard USB cable is fine) along with installation of Kindle drivers on the host machine.

- While a bit more involved I suggest you consider installing TWRP which will provide more robust recovery options should something go wrong. It is very easy to do given your current firmware level. Life without TWRP (or similar recovery) is like driving without a seatbelt.

- I have been using ggow's excellent implementation of the Nexus ROM. Rock solid and functional. The only minor downside is its Jellybean roots. ggrow is currently working on bringing newer variants to the table; Lollipop seems likely at some point. CM11 and CM12 are also available (or being worked on) but have some minor issues that may or may not matter to you.

I know you were hoping for a step-by-step tutorial. While that may become reality someday I suggest you spend an evening reading through the forums before deciding on a course of action. Yup, a ton of information is old/confusing but there is no one right answer for everyone. Ask questions along the way. Lots of folks are happy/willing to help if you've done your homework.

Good luck!
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] snorklm:
Thanks for the overview and answering my questions! I'm still iffy on the whole process but I'm going to do some reading before I decide if this is for me :).

Thanks for the reply. I'm especially grateful that you name-dropped some specific recommendations because it gives me a starting point to research. I have already read about TWRP (though as of yet I have no idea how to install it) and I will definitely take a look at HDX Toolkit.

I am probably going to try rooting while keeping an eye on the stock Android variant. I'm not sure if I'm ever going to be brave/clever enough to dare try that though. Bricking my device would seriously make me cry ;).

I have one more question about the Firmware versions (well, I probably have several, but this is the only one I remember right now.) I have seen somewhere on this forum that you can also upgrade the amazon firmware manually until you have the version you want instead of getting pushed to the newest one from amazon itself. Is that correct? If yes, which is the best version to stop on while still being able to root and keeping the option of stock Android open? I ask because I would like to strike a balance between a reasonably upgraded OS and one I still can do stuff with without getting nannied by amazon.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] lekofraggle:
Here is where I recomend you start reading.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2986004

This is the link for the thor twrp.

Here is how a normal device works.

You gain root permissions, and then if you mess up, you jump into a recovery and fix things. You probably (definitely) will lose some data, but you learn, curse, and move on with your life.

However, the bootloader of the Kindle hdx is locked. This means that if you cannot boot right, and you cannot get to recovery, you have a 200 paperweight.

Now, on the old firmware, brilliant people found a way to unlock (sort of) the bootloader. So, you have a pretty universal reset switch. This is why the recommendation is there to grab twrp. It really is helpful if you have a hankering to tinker. In reality there is less of a risk of bricking the device with it. Once you have it, then you can update to the newest firmware (in theory) if you do so the right way, you still keep twrp.

Now, if you want root and do not care about the safety belt, update to 13.4.5.2 and root it, but block updates.

But know, you lose the option of twrp at that point.

I hope this helps.

~Leko

Edit: whether you go the easy route, and choose towelroot (just google it or go to towelroot.com for that route), the more involved twrp, or something in between, I highly recommend you learn what adb is and how to use it. The hdx toolkit comes with the drivers and it is not too difficult to use, but it is essential if you get into a sticky situation. Here is the toolkit link.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2665683
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] snorklm:
Yes, this helps. Thank you! :good:
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] DB126:
[MENTION=6459190]snorklm[/MENTION] - you can go up to 13.3.2.6, secure root and still retain the option to later install TWRP and a different ROM without having to engage Amazon for a downgrade (you will still have to roll your device back to an earlier FW before installing TWRP but you can do this yourself). Note the 13.3.x.x series is based on the previous version of Fire OS (which in turn is based on Jellybean) but it remains perfectly serviceable. A lot is happening with more recent Amazon firmwares which ultimately may allow other ROMs and recoveries to be installed without having to downgrade to 13.3.x.x. Keep an eye on the forums.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] leoclark:
Thanks for starting this topic snorklm. I was thinking in the same way whether it's worth to get it rooted or not.

I don't mind about the warranty as I think I will not break my Kindle Fire some how, just care about the services from Amazon Prime.

Actually I already contact Amazon service to roll back to version 3.2.5 and I'm waiting for the instruction email. My plan is going to root it, play around with the device then if something doesn't satisfy me, I will do un-root.

Would anyone show us the real advantages of rooting Kindle Fire here? As far as I know basic users just root their device to install Google Play Store which can be done on other un-rooted ones (like the method of Imma Wake) I still like Amazon service for Movies streaming so I'm a bit confused of what to do next, keep update it accordingly or give Rooting a try

Please share more your stories here.

Thank you
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] DB126:
I ran with 3.2.6 (rooted) for nearly a year before installing a different ROM. I was able to obtain most apps from either the Amazon store or 1Moble. The primary reason I rooted was to squash various Amazon services that launch at boot and consume resources in the background (CPU, memory, battery). Goodreads, FreeTime and numerous communication services to name a few. I also wanted to install Xposed for a few modules I find especially handy and block OTAs to retain maximum flexibility. I side loaded many gapps but never installed the play store and associated services. Also Opera (never liked Silk). I retained my Prime privileges and for the most part enjoyed the mostly stock tablet as Amazon intended. Ultimately I began to miss some purchased apps not available elsewhere and longed for Apex or Nova. Other launchers can be made to run on Fire OS but the experience isn't as fluid. There is also something to be said about having a fairly consistent UI across my various Android devices.

While Fire OS isn't horrible I recommend rooting (when possible) and blocking OTAs to maximize current/future options As others have pointed out the act of rooting generally does not introduce instability unless the method used to exploit a vulnerability has side effects or the conditions for root are not fully met. There are some risks as you now have the power to brick your device. SuperSU (or similar privilege manager) is your friend and should keep you out of trouble if used judiciously.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Face_Plant:
My Note 4 (T-Mobile version, obviously) is making a very faint rhythmic beeping sound that almost sounds like Morse Code when I place it on my wireless charging pad. The phone charges just fine and doesn't get hot or anything, but the beeping is very annoying when I try to sleep at night. The beeping stops when I take my phone off the charging pad, but starts again as soon as I put it back on the pad. It still beeps even if I turn the phone off. I am using the official Samsung wireless charging back cover and official Samsung charging pad. Is my phone just transmitting my personal info to the NSA through Morse Code while I sleep?

Thanks,

Jeff
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hellcatrydr:
Meth.. Not even once.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] accord91lx:
My nokia wireless charging pad's wall wart makes beeping/squeeking noises that I thought was the phone at first... might give that a listen if your pad has a wall adapter...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zoso28:
^^ what he said.. I've seen that with quite a few wall adapters so it's not a stretch to imagine it could happen with a charging pad, but put your ear to the wall adapter & see if it's that. In my experience it's old/cheaply made adapters but it could just be a manufacturing fluke with your particular unit
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Face_Plant:
It's definitely coming from the phone or plate (hard to tell which one is making the noise). The wall adapter/cable I'm using are the genuine Samsung ones that came with the charging plate, so they shouldn't be cheap junk.

I'm pretty sure my Note 3 beeped too, so maybe it's just a characteristic of this plate?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siraltus:
It's not your phone, it's your charger.

I have two Tylt Vu chargers and they BOTH make very faint beeping/whining noises when charging my phone, plus the wall adapter makes a constant whining noise, too. It's just ****ty parts used in the chargers, nothing you can do about it.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sekar12:
If you're hearing Morse code -like sounds while charging a device, it's likely an indication of a specific feature or alert programmed into the device. Some electronic gadgets incorporate Morse code-like beeps or tones to communicate charging status, battery level, or other notifications. Check the device's manual or settings to understand the meaning of the Morse code sounds, as manufacturers often use unique patterns for different messages. It's a creative and efficient way for devices to convey information audibly.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] cryptkiller:
Hi,

im trying to customize my ameo more with themes n shell designs

n just wondered if people could post pics of their screens n what they used

to customise the screen with

also whats the best software to buy for designing/making my own

themes/shell designs

thanks
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
IMHO use Wisbar Advance 2 and Wisbar Desktop (neither are freeware but both come with trial period if you want to try them).

Go to Lakeridge forums here:

http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/index.php

See here for one of many different personalised WA2 & Wisbar Desktop combos:

http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10348

There are several other apps that give a similar effect but are not truly as customizable as the above mentioned combination.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] QAN:
Freeze

When I use WA2 and WAD my Ameo freezes vey often. The last week I had so manny freezes that I decided after hard resetting ten times not to use WA anymore. My Ameo is now stable again.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
Funny you should say that. I've been running WA2 from day 1 of having my Ameo, but then I'm not using the latest beta version (too many bugs from what I see on lakeridge forums).

But the other night I installed WAD (it looks so good from screenshots of other peoples devices that I chose to give it a go). Didn't like it and uninstalled it after playing with it for an hour.

Today my GPS would not work at all....can't be sure, but I put it down to WAD and opted for a full system wipe and rebuild.

Glad I did it now....everything is rosy again (including WA2 without WAD and TomTom and I are pals again). ;)
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ad2003:
Hi there ,

I have m7, rooted, s-on, bootloader unlocked, with insertcoin 4.4 KitKat installed.

When I am installing a stock recovery and flash a stock ROM, can I get the Original OTA Lollipop Update from HTC including

the latest firmware 7.1.... :confused:?

thank you!

AD
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clsA:
Maybe ... unlocking the bootloader deletes a folder called preload that is needed for the OTA to succeed

So if you have data/preload and stock recovery it may work
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ad2003:
ok! Thanks for the reply - forgot to mention: bootloader is unlocked.
[M.O.J.O. General] gwaldo:
http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2015/02/27/review_mad_catz_mojo_android_gaming_console/

Just read that, but didnt get the 'revival of fortune' :confused:

It reads just like a review that would have been written at launch.

Maybe they mean to say that androidTV is real now and the mojo is good hardware for it?

But doesn't mention the custom roms??

Or that Andriod console gaming is becoming more popular?:good:

But only mentions old games and ouya... no mention of the new obox or games??:rolleyes:

Anyway

Just saw madcatz's new line of keyboard and controller-

http://madcatz.com/gamesmart_surf_r/

http://madcatz.com/gamesmart_lynx_3/
[Sony Xperia E3] marquinho444:
Good first sorry for the English evil, I to have a problem I already released the bootloader and caught again, today I want to unlock again so that is giving this:

14/055/2013 22:55:31 - INFO - Device connected in fastboot mode

14/055/2013 22:55:36 - INFO - Unlocking phone using key XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

14/055/2013 22:55:36 - INFO - ...

14/055/2013 22:55:36 - INFO - FAILED (remote: Command did not succeed)

14/055/2013 22:55:36 - INFO - finished. Total time: 0.035s

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX = the unlock code i got from Sony

Someone help me with this problem?
[Java for Android App Development] seahorsepip:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28787230/check-for-stopwatch-timer-and-alarm-in-android-wear

I just asked it on stack overflow but maybe someone on xda can help me out :D
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vash_stanped:
Yellowish color screen after flashing arymod 4.0 or Flex_Lollipop Rev2.1, also tried 3 different kernels: LP_Xplorer_Rev1.7, darkqueen latest and perseo matergold. Still can´t get rid of this yellowish tint when the screen gets dimmer.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devilsdouble:
A photo would be good, I guess?

So you have only two options, either flash Stock ROM and have the display as it was, or you can use the app Screen Adjuster and turn up the Blue channel to neutralize the Yellowish effect. Remember, with that app you will just be masking the tint, not get rid of it, well not fundamentally.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vash_stanped:
Thanks for the help, I've also tried that app but the problem is if I neutralize at lower dim when brightness goes up the colors are messed up again. I´ll post screenshot.

I was going to post screenshot but it doesn´t show the problem and I don't have a secundary camera to take a photo.

xinfinityoO said to try and use synapse "Tip for the people with yellowish color hue

Go to synapse / screen and enable mdnie control , there you change the "Digital edge enhancement", try every sharpness value."

But color still messed up
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devilsdouble:
Oh okay. Then you will have to ditch either the ROM or the kernel, I can't be sure which one is causing that (or maybe this is intentional), look for which one says stuffs about display tweaking, should be mentioned under the details of either the ROM or the kernel.

And screenshot won't capture that actually, a photo is needed, from a camera. Screenshots from all the Note 3 of the world will look all same.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vash_stanped:
I thought there was way to upload a synapse profile or something that could neutralize this. Everything works like a charm and at high brightness there is no yellowish issue only when it's dimmer.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devilsdouble:
Oh Synapse, no idea mate, have stopped using that buggy piece of software a long time ago (no offence).
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vash_stanped:
It was actually my first time using it and only to try and solve this issue but did find it quite unstable.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ooofest:
Hi Folks,

I heard that Hangouts can handle both group chats and Google Voice, as well as natively working with the Google Voice manner of MMS receipts, but when I tried testing with it, the chats only showed up in the Hangout app on other Android phones, which was foreign to the other phone owners (i.e., their default is the Google Messaging app).

Group chats are increasingly being used by other school parents among my kids' friends, which has been causing all sorts of communications problems because I can only see the original sender of a group chat in the default Google Voice app for txt messages.

Does anyone know if I can use my Google Voice number for sending/receiving group chats that show all participants, and if so, if I can send messages back to the group in a manner that won't trigger their Hangouts app if they don't have that set as default for messages?

- ooofest
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] p1xel-cl0ck:
hi everyone i have the choice between getting the nexus 5 or lg g3, but i cant make my mind up :confused: ! i really like the idea of having 2k display on the lg but i also like the nexus 5, can anyone point me in the right direction? anyone with user experience of both phones? thanks :good:
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Qusai.b:
which is better and more stable for galaxy sIII

Lollipop >> LiquidSmooth or CyanogenMod 12 or Paranoid

please answer me ASAP i really need your advice

and please stat why

thank you all .:)
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ShadowLea:
This is a question better suited for the S3 boards. Please use the device search bar at the top of the website to locate the correct board.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Glyphix:
Is there any downside to the Moto Maxx (intnl) version of the Droid Turbo? (I use t-mobile)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
No. With Moto Maxx, you can unlock boot loader and root. Droid Turbo, you cannot. No downside.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] GeodudeFFP:
I didn't root, so I like the absence of Verizon bloatware on the Maxx.

I was waffling and wondering about a One M9, but just got a Maxx this week, using on T-Mobile (thanks to ChazzMatt and others advice). Fantastic phone...the ONLY thing I miss is the IR Blaster (on my G2 and M7).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] matheus_sc:
No moto maxx is better
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] adrynalyne:
No moto maxx is better, than what?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ceelos218:
this thread gives me headaches....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] matheus_sc:
Than droid turbo, no bloatware, unlocked bootloader and root already.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] adrynalyne:
What you stated is that there is no moto maxx that is better. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] matheus_sc:
Sorry my english is very bad.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] this_is_nascar:
So, can US users get a Moto Maxx on Verizon? My biggest Turbo disappointment is not being able to have root.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
If you can find the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, sold by other (smaller) CDMA/LTE carriers, yes it will work on Verizon. The XT1250 has CDMA and Verizon's LTE bands. It's identical to the Droid Turbo, even the same FCC ID, but branded as "Moto Maxx".

The international Moto Maxx XT1225 will not work on Verizon. It's it's GSM/HSPA/LTE only without Verizon's LTE bands. I own two XT1225 and am running one AT&T GoPhone.

Both Moto Maxx models have unlockable boot loader and ability to root.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] this_is_nascar:
Thx. I guess I should have done more research before committing to the Turbo. Other than the lack of root, I really do love my Turbo.

Sent from my Droid Turbo 64-gig from Tapatalk.