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[Galaxy S6 General] megagodx:
I'd like to see AMOLED screens hit at least 400 cm/nits of brightness when displaying content with 100% white average. Right now the best the Note 4 can do in that situation is 340 cm/nits. That's why I hope this S6 panel is an improvement and not just taken from the Note 4. Now that TouchWiz uses more white backgrounds, it won't be as energy efficient over the long term for having the display on and I certainly would like whites to look more white with better brightness on Average Picture Level
[Galaxy S6 General] hamad138:
The white are very bad in amoleds
[Galaxy S6 General] system.img:
I'd take an AMOLED white over an LCD black any day.
[Galaxy S6 General] vegetaleb:
Can't wait to see how it's doing under direct sunlight with the Edge
[Galaxy S6 General] MattMJB0188:
AM I the only person who thought the Note 4's display looked somewhat grainy? That and I often found a few models to have pinkish screens.
[Galaxy S6 General] megagodx:
They went from being inaccurately calibrated with yellow or green tints to being more proper on white point. They (QHD displays) display whites more accurately than most of the high-end LCD panels. The problem is, they don't look as good because they can't get very bright due to hardware limitations at the moment. AMOLED is still a premature technology that has improved tremendously in a few short years on the market, but more efficiency needs to be tuned in.
[Galaxy S6 General] anewday:
I prefer 1080p as all my videos are in that resolution. It's going to look worse upscaled in this. Also, not sure if eyes can even notice a difference on a phone call.
[Galaxy S6 General] Poetique:
Short of pressing your face up against the screen and trying to look for flaws, it won't look any worse. 1080p is too many pixels for a 5" screen as it is. QHD is pure overkill.
[Galaxy S6 General] anewday:
My point is I prefee it to display videos at native resolution.
[Galaxy S6 General] JasonJoel:
Then I guess the S6 isn't for you. Lucky there are other options that are FHD still.
[Galaxy S6 General] hamad138:
Improve the white coulor its really bad.
[Galaxy S6 General] foodie.me:
People always think they can't do better but still, they always do, they always manage to find a way to improve the technology.:D
[Galaxy S6 General] Japultra:
Colour accuracy on the S6 doesn't seem to be as good as the Note 4 but the maximum brightness on the S6 should be a lot brighter than N4 (Samsung claims max 600 nits).

This data is for the edge, but I would think the S6 would be similar.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...benchmark-and-color-accuracy-analysis_id66830
[Galaxy S6 General] ponts:
Looks like a valid test done by someone at MWC, I'm not a fan of how the article was written and by who BTW. Should we be concerned? Added "Does anyone know the app being used in this test"

http://www.cultofandroid.com/72195/sorry-samsung-galaxy-s6-may-major-hardware-fault/
[Galaxy S6 General] Japultra:
For all anyone knows this could be intentional to reduce the number of false touches.
[Galaxy S6 General] ponts:
I agree it could be, as well it could be that the testing application isn't compatible yet with the new hardware? Anyways I tested a similar application with my Nexus 6 and I get responsiveness right to the edge. I sure would like to know the application he was using. I would also like to see this test on the s6 edge as well. I'm hoping this isn't a major issue as I have pre-ordered both the s6 and s6 edge.
[Galaxy S6 General] Japultra:
The S6 and the S6 edge?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrwqhAwQVLg
[Galaxy S6 General] gtg465x:
Yeah, one would think. It's a great screen, and it may have the best pixel density, black levels, and colors of any display out there, but when you factor in the viewing angle, pink and green tint, and uniformity issues, I don't think it is the best overall mobile display as many sites say. I would personally give that award to the iPhone 6 Plus. It doesn't have as good black levels, and the pixel density isn't as high (though it would be very hard to see the difference), but overall, I think the iPhone 6 Plus display has less issues than the S6 display.
[Galaxy S6 General] daffie:
Yes white has become much more important since Lollipop...many screens have extensive use of white color. Hence my personal issue with the bad screen on the S6. It's just too big a hindrance when using the phone...much too visible!

I had the Note 4 before the S6 and it had an absolutely gorgeous screen...it really was perfect. White was crystal-clear white, colors where spot-on, no pink or green tint whatsoever! They say (specifically Displaymate review website) the screen of the S6 is even better than the Note 4 :eek: Safe to say I do not agree!

Keeping my fingers crossed (all night if necessary! :) ) for lucky nr 4 tomorrow.

To be continued...
[Galaxy S6 General] reubenskelly1992:
Wish you all the best. The s6 is a good phone but these screen problems have ruined it for. Hopefully be happier with the m9. Love that boomsound lol
[Galaxy S6 General] gtg465x:
Hate to break it to you, but the One M9 has a worse screen than the M8 and M7. Many complain that it has a green tint and the colors aren't accurate at all.
[Galaxy S6 General] megagodx:
I think you got a faulty unit. My whites on the S6 look more white and accurate than my Note 4. But the problem with whites in general on AMOLED screens isn't due to color rendering. They probably are more accurate than top LCDs, but efficiency. The brightness has to be generally lower because Samsung hasn't figured out how to make rendering white backgrounds all that energy efficient on the relatively new and developing technology yet. But they've come along way in just 5 years and they typically make strides every year.
[Galaxy S6 General] reubenskelly1992:
Its even though and i prefer that to pinks everywhere. And its mainly just calabrated cooler than the m8. If i root theres a kernel app called kcal. Lets you change the levels of cool or warm and satuaration levels:)
[Galaxy S6 General] superleeds27:
And to top it off, my camera has random pink/purple/green patches...

Going back
[Galaxy S6 General] bazaine:
I posted a thread in the Edge forum about the tinted screens... Might be worth a look.

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/samsung-korea-tinted-screens-due-to-t3097488
[Galaxy S6 General] *Emix*:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=60465553&postcount=439
[Galaxy S6 General] trenzterra:
Any sample picture? All my four S4s have a slight pink tint in the camera in the middle. Seems like a lens limitation issue.
[Galaxy S6 General] Duzzy5:
Dissapointed !! Never had samsung with amoled that was not dissapointing...
[Galaxy S6 General] e34v8:
That's just bad luck. Use the warranty and replace it. It's electronics... there always will be some bad units , but not all. Mine is clear.
[Galaxy S6 General] ponts:
AHAHAHA!!! That was awesome love it!! While I'm definitely a phone whore I may end up only keeping the one I like more and I'm leaning towards the edge right now. No not rich that's for sure. Most of my phones are through upgrades or kijiji used purchases. Got an M8 half price when HTC had the promotion. I have two phone plans one personal and one through work so I could keep them both. I just need to sell my M8, and possibly my iphone 6. Won't part with my Nexus 6 though just love it!!
[Galaxy S6 General] David_freestyle:
I agree with you
[Galaxy S6 General] hamad138:
They should do everything fir improving the white colour for amoleds
[Galaxy S6 General] megagodx:
I saw several videos of the S6 display, it seems much brighter and more white than any AMOLED based device to date. The Note 4 included. That's a good sign, so I hope that means there has been efficiency improvements in these second generation QHD displays.
[Galaxy S6 General] tepsarit:
I really hope so.
[Galaxy S6 General] Robert542:
The Note 4 has an amazing display. If you thought the it had a grainy display then either your eyes are really bad or the display was damaged in some way.
[Galaxy S6 General] hamad138:
I think the note 4 was a good display but the Iphone were better. The Whites were way too warm on the Note 4
[Galaxy S6 General] jbdan:
A video, at phone arena, did a comparison (stupid comparo if you ask me) between iPhone6 and GS6 (regular or edge can't remember) to see which is faster opening a few apps like contacts etc...In the video the GS6 whites are much whiter than the Apple device. I don't know what brightness levels were set to though so that could make for the difference.

Edit: found it http://youtu.be/lsViP9LIrN0
[Galaxy S6 General] megagodx:
So you're saying you like colder whites? It's not exactly accurate, the Note 4 being warmer is closer to the reference point for ideal whites, so it's more accurate, it just doesn't "look" as good because the iPhone is around 200 cm/nits higher in brightness than the Note 4 displaying full white content.
[Galaxy S6 General] msavic6:
"Samsung Galaxy S6 has the best smartphone display so far"

http://gizmodo.com/the-samsung-galaxy-s6-has-the-best-smartphone-display-y-1690515387
[Galaxy S6 General] CLARiiON:
Displaymate analysis:

http://displaymate.com/Galaxy_S6_ShootOut_1.htm
[Galaxy S6 General] GreeleyXda:
sounds good.

but i heard theyre biased
[Galaxy S6 General] CLARiiON:
So whome do you trust then? 95% of tech sites/journos don't even have basic qualification to effectively analyze a display. If you start digging every site will have some controversy. I will just look into the quality of this article, and unless someone can comeup to refute the numbers, I see no reason why I shouldn't trust them.
[Galaxy S6 General] GreeleyXda:
ive had the s3, note 2, note 3, s5, note 4, note 8.0, and a tab s.

i love their amoled screens. their articles get me hyped haha.

just when i was reading comments on the site that had linked their article, everyone was saying how they always are biased towards samsung.

to be honest i never really messed with the display modes, guess im partial to the samsung colors as opposed to the realistic colors in the other modes
[Galaxy S6 General] CLARiiON:
Well, they used to praise the iPhone display previously and called them the best display in the industry.

http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_2.htm

http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_1.htm

Nobody called them biased then, now suddenly when they say that OLED displays are better now, people start doubting them.

OLED is a newer tech and needed time to settle down and now it surging ahead of LCD's. It getting more efficient and more accurate with each generation. Fact remains no other vendor can match Samsung's technology in next 2/3 years. Compare to that the LCD tech is really slow to improve.

Imagine this - Galaxy S3 with a 4.8 inch and mere HD display consumed 1.30 watts on full white screen and full brightness. Galaxy S6 with a Quad HD resolution, higher brightness, larger display size consumes just 1.20 watts to display full white.

Now you can understand how much efficient OLEDs have become in 3 years.
[Galaxy S6 General] megagodx:
The only one who actively calls out DisplayMate is Erica Griffin and her husband, both of them though have neither the proper qualifications, nor the state of the art equipment that costs thousands of dollars, to make these assertions that DM is wrong or biased in their analysis. Dedicated hardware will always be more accurately calibrated than some software that any "enthusiast" like them or tech websites, use.
[Galaxy S6 General] JasonJoel:
I find Erica's opinions annoying as they aren't supported by the data.

I'm sure she's a fine person. But she is no more qualified than I am, so why would I listen to her 'opinion'?
[Galaxy S6 General] pratyush997:
THIS!
[Galaxy S6 General] daffie:
Not sure where you heard this...

DisplayMate does incredibly detailed and extensive testing of displays. The outcome I will take any day over anything else, especially some of the reviewers who have neither the testing equipment nor the know-how and expertise.
[Galaxy S6 General] *Emix*:
Expected.

Also they improved whites so much since S5 and specially Note 4 also it's great to hear that they improved power efficiency compared to S5, amazing results!
[Galaxy S6 General] vegetaleb:
What about amoled's screen burnin? New gen like Note 4 still get some?
[Galaxy S6 General] CLARiiON:
You can't get 100% proper display for every unit. There is bound to be some variation and certain imperfections. On average I don't think there is much issues reported on Note 4 display. The pace at which Samsung is upgrading AMOLED displays, the LCD industry is relatively stale. We haven't seen drastic improvement like what we see from Samsung's AMOLED tech.
[Galaxy S6 General] JasonJoel:
I'm sure you can burn them in if you try hard enough. But my 9+ month old S5 has zero burnin of any kind, and that is even with a 5 minute screen timeout.

So it just isn't something that I think most people need to worry about.
[Galaxy S6 General] vegetaleb:
If you use Car app, the screen won't stay On till you close the app?
[Galaxy S6 General] JasonJoel:
Don't know. I don't use that mode/app. When using Google Maps it stays on by default though. Have left mine on up to 2 hours at a time with no issues.
[Galaxy S6 General] sonyfan12:
review from best screen reviewers

https://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/Samsung_Galaxy_S6_iPhone_6.html

ideal color reproduction
[Galaxy S6 General] daffie:
Yeah, bit difficult to follow though :p

Btw photos from the iphone seem better...clearer and less dark than the S6.
[Galaxy S6 General] CLARiiON:
Note the following parameters:

1. What you are looking is what has been captured by the camera. Depending on the focus area, and exposure compensation the displays might easily look different in real life.

2. You don't know what the actual photo looked like. They might be darker or might be more bright. We can't say for sure from here.

3. Less dark doesn't mean better, normally that's a phenomenon you attach with displays with lesser contrast ratio. They tend to overexpose darker parts of an image.

4. The actual image taken by the camera is going to travel through your monitor. So obviously the initial photo taken by the camera would lose some quality, that photo will lose even more quality as it passes through your monitor (unless you use those specially calibrated displays). Even then you are reduced to a limited colour gamut.

Rather looking at the images, which i am 100% sure is not actual representation of the displays, check the graphs and analysis.
[Galaxy S6 General] hamad138:
Display is good but white colour is bad. I hope one day they fix the white colour
[Galaxy S6 General] avenging:
if the s6 screen is as good as the note 4 screen then this is no contest, held the note 4 side by side to the iphone 6 absolutely no competition in the screen/display
[Galaxy S6 General] daffie:
Nope...display is picture-perfect...see Displaymate review. As the Note4 was...the best screen in any mobile..ever!

Make sure you set the ' Basic' color scheme though. The other schemes are oversaturated colors and inacurate.
[Galaxy S6 General] tmac31:
"Basic" is what makes him think white is bad probably. 6500k srgb white is generally what people dont like cuz they are used to bluish 7k whites of iphones.
[Galaxy S6 General] daffie:
Exactly. But nevertheless the Basic scheme is the one most-accurate regarding color temp. But as you say, most people have no clue what they're looking at :laugh:
[Galaxy S6 General] desiregeek:
I was just at a mobile shop comparing the display and audio on the new Galaxy S6 and the new HTC ONE M9. I found that the Galaxy S6 had a much better and more crisp along with more vivid display. Between the two I would pick the Galaxy S6 over the new HTC ONE M9. The HTC ONE M9 had a blueish/Greenish tint to it. Colors were not as bright and vivid as the ones on the Galaxy S6. The screen on the Galaxy S6 was pretty damn crisp in my opinion. :good:
[Galaxy S6 General] progosu:
a review from androidauthority,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BvNHWQ-BiA @ 4:09 on the sound icon, is that a dead pixel?
[Galaxy S6 General] daffie:
Nevermind...read that completely wrong :o
[Galaxy S6 General] zathus:
Good eye. I'm not sure tbh but here's the image cropped

Edit. Because of the pixel density, I think spotting a dead pixel would be harder. I think it's the image itself.
[Galaxy S6 General] Outcasst:
It's a spec of dust. Look at the scene just after when he's playing the game. They're all over the screen.
[Galaxy S6 General] _alex74_:
related to display.....

will be posted tomorrow...

will gain battery life and preserve display:D:D:D:D

Ps lemme know wat u think.... i do not own device but like new S6 app.....
[Galaxy S6 General] D15:
The S6 display is indeed the best display in the market today, and everybody seems to agree/admit that.

---------- Post added at 01:55 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:51 AM ----------

Dust. There are several fainter ones near the location toggle, and many more all over the phone visible in the next scene. That's also bigger than a single pixel on the S6 display.
[Galaxy S6 General] desiregeek:
The Speaker on there is quite good too. Even though it is at the bottom and just a single speaker in my opinion and others at the telecom shop it sounded much better than the two front speakers on the new HTC ONE M9. So far we have better sound and a better display on the S6 Edge along with a much better camera of which I also compared. No we have 3 things in favor of the S6 Edge over the new HTC ONE M9

I have to give 1 point to HTC for having the SD card option still available.
[Galaxy S6 General] Lodix:
That is a dead pixel, I don't know why do you try to deny it xD
[Galaxy S6 General] CLARiiON:
Dead pixel will be there no matter how good your display is. That's just part of manufacturing defect. Even if you have a 6 sigma certified process, you are bound to have a few units with defect. I am sure out of few million units they produce, there will be few 10s of thousand units (or more) which will have certain defect.
[Galaxy S6 General] yahyoh:
no not even close...dude have you even seen Gs5 screen or galaxy tab S or Note 4 ?? :eek:
[Galaxy S6 General] D15:
That was long ago. AMOLED these have great whites, the S6 actually have better whites than the iphone 6.
[Galaxy S6 General] Lodix:
I agree [emoji14]
[Galaxy S6 General] derWolf_:
It is not dust for sure. The AMOLED technology doesn't allow dust to come between the screen and the display, since they are one piece. What we are seeing are dead pixels.
[Galaxy S6 General] daffie:
Indeed. People that talk about bad whites on the current (Samsung Note4 and S6) screens have no clue. If they use the Basic setting then whites may seem yellow, while actually they are white. All a matter of perception, as most current 'whites' are often more blue-ish.
[Galaxy S6 General] D15:
Dust on the screen. Look at the scene after that, dust particles are all over the screen.
[Galaxy S6 General] jimmiekain:
I've never had a phone with 2k display before bit the main thing I'm excited for is the brightness. I always hated how people with iPhone always had super bright displays. I heard the brightness on the s6 beats that of the iPhone 6. Can't wait to our see a comparison.
[Galaxy S6 General] D15:
It will beat the iphone 6 when set on auto brightness. On manual brightness it matches the iphone at 50% brightness level but it doesn't go as high as the iphone at 100% brightness level unless you set it on auto and put it in a very bright environment (where it will even beat the maximum brightness on the iphone 6 slightly).
[Galaxy S6 General] derWolf_:
What do you mean slightly? It is said, that on auto brightness the screen goes up to 784 nits, which is more than any smartphone currently on the market.

Also on manual brightness it should reach around 600 nits, which again is more than i6's possibilities.
[Galaxy S6 General] D15:
I'm basing this on a GSMarena review (which may have been done on a proto-type rather than an end product), but it mentioned that the iphone 6's brightness goes up to 740 cd/m2 at 100%.

Where did you get those numbers?
[Galaxy S6 General] derWolf_:
A friend, reviewer for a site, has the phone and did the calculations. According to him it will go as high as 784 nits. This is also confirmed by DisplayMate in their review of the display of the phone.

The other figure - 600 nits - was mentioned by Samsung, and again by my friend.

I have reasons to believe I'm correct :)
[Galaxy S6 General] Lodix:
You have to take in mind that amoled brightness depends on the amount of white percentage of the image.

If the screen have to turn on just one pixel, then it can reach the maximum of 7XX nits that displaymate claims ( and auto brightness )

If the screen is totally white, the maximum brightness is lower.
[Galaxy S6 General] D15:
Displaymate is actually giving the S6 auto brightness a range of 542-784, while the iphone 6 scored a maximum of 558 in the same category.

The auto mode on the S6 has been proven to increase the max brightness by 60% compared to the manual mode regardless the content.
[Galaxy S6 General] the Doctor:
Check out this remark by Joshua Ho at Anand Tech:

Source
[Galaxy S6 General] derWolf_:
Ok, I'm incredibly confused about the display. Every reviewer says it is the best display in a smartphone up to date, there is no denying that. However every review I read gives different numbers for the display: phonearena for example, said that the S6 has a white balance of around 6500K, which is perfect. However Anandtech says it is around 6200K. Which one is correct now?

Also about the brightness: again, PA says it is around 600 nits on manual settings, whether Anandtech says it is around 370 on manual. Which one is to believe? I mean - the difference between the numbers are quite significant, and should be cleared which one is correct. I believe they are both correct in one way or another, but which scenario comes closer to real life?
[Galaxy S6 General] equake:
You can never judge a review. I noticed that phonearenas review of the S6 and Edge have vastly different Performance results between the 2. There is no question the display is one of the best with all those pixels in a 5.1 in display. The talk about subpixels is not irrelevant with the calibration and tuning that Sammy has done with these next gen displays.

my 2 cents.
[Galaxy S6 General] CLARiiON:
I have some doubt on PA numbers. The difference between normal and Edge variant is just too much for my comfort and logic. I don't think you will find AMOLED displays with 600 nits on manual mode. It has to be automatic mode. Also note that there will be variation in manufacturing. Since the Edge display is actually produced differently than the normal S6 display, the characteristics could be different.
[Galaxy S6 General] vordhosbnbg:
From a non-technical perspective, I tried the S6 live in a store, and can tell you that maximum manual brightness is really way too high for what I would need even outside in a sunny day. It almost burns the eyes, so I don't get this obsession over which nits are bigger. :)

Color accuracy is much more important imo, and while I didn't measure it like Display Mate did, it seemed to me richer than any other consumer display I've seen. I was also a bit skeptical if QHD display is reasonable in such form factor, but after looking at it in person, I can say that it's definitely justified - you can see amazing details in hires photos (and videos). I've read that human eye can't distinguish more than 300 DPI and I generally believed this, but now I call bull**** on this statistics.