yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S6 General] Clay330i:
My take on your dilemma:

-People aren't beating up on the iPhone 6 because the line of phones has historically never had great or even really good battery life.

-HTC M8 was really a good metal chassis alternative to the iPhone users that wanted to try the Android OS. It didn't have bloat like the Samsung S5 and has a 1080p screen. Which is why the S5 and M8 have similar, but great battery life. S5 gets better with de-bloating and turning off nonsense motion features.

-Obviously the M9 has the power hungry 810 and a smallish battery, so you can expect M8 owners to cringe at the fact that they can't improve on the already good M8 performance. Tech Gould be getting better including battery efficiency/life.

-One important thing is the carrier. Carriers can have vast differences between battery life on same phone. Call it coverage or whatever, but it's something that isn't captured in the complaints about battery life. I think T-mobile, AT&T, Verizon, then Sprint seems to be the best to worst as far as battery life goes. Check Anandtech and you'll see the trend amongst reviews.

-Lastly, some people refuse to accept the truth about a poor purchase and will do anything to prove to themselves and others that their phone has great battery life. So you have some people that turn brightness down to 15-20%, turn on airplane mode often, run all black themes (AMOLED) then stream movies or audio all day only to come here and post usage that's not even close to the average working consumer. It's understood that usage varies, but some people are ridiculous a day you all know who you are. They typically are the ones that get defensive and say something like "I don't care what you believe..." LOL

With that being said I have G4 and I was let down by the S6 for my own personal reasons. I wanted to love it, but they moves away from what I want in a phone. Quite a few of my friends are not happy with battery life and I can see why. I wouldn't let it bother you. It's going to be tough to get one correct answer. We are human and have emotions that affect purchases, reactions choices etc. You have your work cut out for you finding an answer, but that's my $. 02

Good luck and enjoy whatever new phone you have. Some people don't even have that option. [emoji106]
[Galaxy S6 General] Gboss01:
I read this thread and find there's 2 types if S6 users. Those with good battery life and those without.

I personally stopped even looking at my battery stats. For me I find the battery quite adequate. I used to watch my battery like a hawk, running BBS, CPUSpy and constantly checking SOT and Deep sleep time. Always comparing my stats against others posted in this thread. I don't get 7hrs SOT like some here users here. My SOT varies a lot between 3 to 5hrs but my battery always lasts me the entire day.

More important for me is that I can go a full day at work, get home and still have 30-40% left. Chasing SOT trying to match another user is a fruitless exercise because you have no idea what power saving settings or tricks the other people are using to achieve this. If I stream videos or movies my battery drops about 10% per hour. By my calculation on a full charge I could probably get 10hrs SOT. But this doesn't help or even compare to the SOT I'd get with normal use. Just enjoy the phone you have and stop the **** measuring competition. It's just a phone!

TL;DR comparing SOT pointless unless tested in the same "lab" or conditions on the same carrier or network.

My 2c..
[Galaxy S6 General] msavic6:
This isn't the correct answer as the 2k screen on the S6 is more power efficient than the 1080p screen on the S5. Battery capacity aside, you can't blame the S6's battery life on its screen when its more efficient than the previous generation.

In terms of WiFi usage, I achieve better battery life with my S6 than I did with my S5 under the same conditions, upwards of 5:45 to 6:30 screen on time with the S6 while the S5 only managed 5:15 to 5:30. The issue I face with the S6 is battery life using mobile data, there is something with the software as well as Google's "bloat" that tends to suck the battery dry while on mobile data. This issue was not present on my S5 although I only managed roughly 3:30 to 4:15 screen on time over mobile data while the S6 is currently averaging 2:45 - 3:45 on mobile data.

A few more updates from Samsung and hoping Google fixes Play Services once and for all, I think the S6 will begin to do a lot better in the battery department.
[Galaxy S6 General] thegregulator:
I have an incredibly difficult time believing that. I didn't have an S5 so I can't compare the two but I'm getting roughly the same uptime with my S6 as I did with my Moto X 2014. I don't find there's as big a discrepancy between SOT on WiFi and SOT on LTE as you suggest either. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that my experience is quite different from yours.
[Galaxy S6 General] theronlas:
True for your carrier. Mine, Telstra (AUS) is the opposite, more efficient on 4G than on WiFi. So who is to blame, Samsung or the carrier?
[Galaxy S6 General] msavic6:
Your Wi-Fi network should be the one to blame as it is well known that mobile data especially LTE, is more power hungry than Wi-Fi. My home Wi-Fi is running on 2.4Ghz and leads to miniscule battery drain compared to LTE.

---------- Post added at 09:20 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:13 AM ----------

Here's a day where I used WiFi nearly exclusively throughout the day. It's hard to compare results directly since our usage and settings will vary but in my case I have optimized my S6 the same way I optimized my S5. Also not by optimized I don't mean turning off every feature and turning the brightness down to 0. I leave location on high accuracy and have S Health measuring steps in the background, I leave brightness on Auto at roughly 50% and in turn have had great results.
[Galaxy S6 General] Fille84:
With my usage, and I think I can speak for alot of people here, I would never get that SOT even with all that stuff turned off. And you should know by now that turning off mobiledata while on WIfi won't do a ****.
[Galaxy S6 General] Shadyfurball:
I'm guessing in wrong here but I thought being connected to wifi android would auto turn off mobile data?
[Galaxy S6 General] :
I can agree with this. Just made a thread in the general section explaining it and how to get this. I get 8+ hours SOT on Wifi.

---------- Post added at 10:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:02 AM ----------

It's the bloatware. Check the battery "guide" in the general section "Samsung Galaxy S6 battery life is insane (how to 8+ hours sot).

This phone beats my Xperia Z3 (which is known for insane battery life) by just flashing a debloated rom.

---------- Post added at 10:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:03 AM ----------

You're not alone. I think the same. :) What you should do tho, is if you're on Wifi all day, you should change to 2g and then change to 3g/4g when Wifi is not connected.

There is an app (2g/3g switcher) that makes this faster (adds quick settings in notification panel), but you can automate the process when we get Xposed.
[Galaxy S6 General] Quinnaay:
My battery had been so bad i did a bit of research and bought Pacakge Disabler instead of rooting and i can honestly say its made a massive difference.

So I left my phone to run overnight without charging for the first time it used around 8% with WiFi etc on. I've seen a lot worse. Anyway here is a comparison without the app last week

And yesterday/today's results

Phone radio is still too high for my liking though. But the app has changed it for the better dramatically, more standby time, more screen on time and more app usage.
[Galaxy S6 General] spike.trickster:
Wow Im gonna try this app. :D

---------- Post added at 06:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:13 PM ----------

Downloaded the app Package Disabler. Disabled all bloatware with the one touch bloatware. Now will look out for standby time. The standby was horrendous with wifi on. Hope for the best.
[Galaxy S6 General] eric150:
Does package disabled trip Knox? I had a Knox agreement show up when I installed it.
[Galaxy S6 General] spike.trickster:
I checked and my knox is still 0x0.
[Galaxy S6 General] eric150:
I'm afraid to get the app.
[Galaxy S6 General] guaneet:
i think it actually disables knox from what i have read about it. or may be its a loophole they are using through knox
[Galaxy S6 General] :
Installed it and Knox is still 0x0

Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk
[Galaxy S6 General] eric150:
Did you get this same screen and agree?
[Galaxy S6 General] spike.trickster:
Yes
[Galaxy S6 General] whatnow275:
Anyone know if the screen filter app will cause extra drain? Hasn't been updated since 2014 but auto brightness is too bright (and probably drains a lot of battery)
[Galaxy S6 General] Quinnaay:
Knox doesn't trip just disable it it within the app. Don't get me wrong battery still isn't fantastic but better with stuff disabled.
[Galaxy S6 General] tmorterlaing:
Are there any apps in particular that should be disabled? I'm not too keen to hit the 'disable all bloatware' option...
[Galaxy S6 General] B$!ngh:
Wanted to test if it would last me 2 days of light usage and it comfortably lasts more than that.
[Galaxy S6 General] Lucho96:
That is actually a pretty good standby time. Can you share your settings? stock rom or anything else?
[Galaxy S6 General] :
Download pixel filter. It puts a filter with black over your screen. So if you chose like 38% it will make 38% of the pixels black cause of Amoled.
[Galaxy S6 General] B$!ngh:
On stock rom. Disabled some bloatware.

Brightness on manual. Location off. No wifi always on 3g. I haven't played too much with settings so everything is pretty much stock.
[Galaxy S6 General] Pratz852:
:confused: I always thought wifi preserves more battery than mobile networks? :confused:
[Galaxy S6 General] B$!ngh:
I don't have wifi to test it. After 5.1.1 update today my battery has become even better I feel
[Galaxy S6 General] SilentEYE:
I think all these Websites are not good enough to say something about the real battery life. There must be a fixed display brightness, measured with a professional equipment, and many other things have to be thought of ( connection, sim-card, room brightness, temperatures, background processes like playstore versions)

I would take a look at anandtechs reviews. They have been comparable with my real life battery results.

Of course you have to know that they run their tests in one row. In real life you have also many standby times.
[Galaxy S6 General] whatnow275:
Thanks, have you tried it? I find auto brightness to be too bright and I'd rather have it a bit dimmer. This save much battery?
[Galaxy S6 General] :
I mainly use it because auto brightness is too bright at the night. So using it to save my ees

Not made a before after test. Of course it will not double your battery life, but by turning something black the pixels should turn off on a Amoled, so it should save slme
[Galaxy S6 General] theronlas:
Not that the drain on WiFi is high (probably just extra apps syncing since i have several disabled on mobile data) but the point was that not every carrier exhibits high battery drain on LTE.
[Galaxy S6 General] godutch:
I just discovered uc browser, not only does it have a build in ad blocker but also it has something which can be even more useful than night mode on some other browsers : the ability to set a transparent background on all Web pages and set all text to white, so if you set a custom wallpaper in the browser to pure black you will get webpagrs with pure black with white text but without the distortion you often get with night mode.
[Galaxy S6 General] tazman19:
I get better battery life on 4g than I do on WIFI. Verizon G6. On WIFI, Android system and radio still 2 biggest drains. Tried everything I've read about short of factory reset.
[Galaxy S6 General] tmorterlaing:
OK so: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9146/the-samsung-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge-review/13

"Samsung has managed to exploit their vertical integration to keep battery life effectively similar to the Galaxy S5, while using a higher resolution 1440p AMOLED display and a smaller battery than the one found in the Galaxy S5. I was doubtful that Samsung would be able to pull off this off, but they have and once again our results show that battery life is fundamentally more than just adding a larger battery."

---Which again makes me think people's issues and short battery life here is very often down to software. All of the tests on Anandtech put it as at least average, if not better (bar 1 outlier). That people are getting such small SoT and general use from one charge doesn't make sense. As another point of issue again, I do wish people would stop blaming the 2550MaH battery - again, S6's internals are VERY efficient. Again, going by the M8, there's no reason this phone shouldn't be able to do exceedingly well with properly optimised software.

Samsung needs to get its sh*t together with that!
[Galaxy S6 General] pibe86:
how much time does the samsung s6 take to charge from 5% to 60% more or less with the original charger? do you think this will help?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...20&ascsubtag=d4735432440045028e3dcf3152ead8db
[Galaxy S6 General] ra9b:
Maybe 30 minutes. You already have a quick charger, so idk why you'd get another one. Try the charger out for yourself before you buy another one.
[Galaxy S6 General] pibe86:
Thanks for your answer [emoji4]
[Galaxy S6 General] Kanosha:
Some of it is hardware but yes a lot of it is software. Just take a look at the iPhone. Apple manages to get decent battery life out of in general a much smaller battery than those used in Android phones.

Google really needs to take more control of optimising battery life in Android (yes doze mode in m is a start) rather than expecting developers to do the work because all it takes is one rogue app and your battery will drain like a *****.
[Galaxy S6 General] godutch:
I reality google has done the exact opposite since kit kat by making battery stats inaccessible to ordinary users, so you can't even diagnose which app is the culprit.
[Galaxy S6 General] ChongoDroid:
Lmao this was a hilarious read.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3155047

Captain Facepalm to the rescue!
[Galaxy S6 General] msavic6:
The thing with Apple is that they have fine control over every aspect in the production of the phone. They control the software and the hardware and as such are able to finely tune their devices to preform at optimum efficiency and performance. Apple even designs their own processors in order to conserve power while maintaining performance.

Samsung doesn't get this luxury and unfortunately spends hours upon hours optimizing their processors, displays and other components to reduce power consumption only to have Google come along and destroy all the work they have done for efficiency with a rogue app/background process. It's almost as if Google has become "too" comfortable with their product and are toning down the level of care and detail they once put into it.

It's really quite unfortunate given the sheer potential the S6 has to be an outstanding performer yet the crappy software let's down the great hardware.
[Galaxy S6 General] ra9b:
I believe that it comes down to the whole android vs iPhone philosophy. Android focuses on multitasking and has many processes and wakelocks at once. IPhones just focus on the foreground app, and don't have to use as many resources for all the other apps/tasks that you have running. That's why IPhones can get away with using a weaker cpu and a smaller battery.
[Galaxy S6 General] Pratz852:
You're right, but it seriously drives me insane, that every time I turn my screen off I get a phobia that some app is going to drain my battery or not let my phone go into deep sleep. If I turn my screen off, I want my phone to just sleep and receive messages and not do multitasking or whatsoever. Is that so hard to accomplish?

I'm seriously considering to switch to iPhone (always had galaxy flagships and nexus 4) because of this issue. If you turn an iPhone screen off, you don't have to worry it might loose 20-30% in standby.

And I expect it to run out of the box and not after rooting, using greenify etc.
[Galaxy S6 General] Diaze:
Not every android phone is like that.. Usually android phones have much better batt life than iPhone... But ur right.. S6 has bad battery management and fast drain... Switch to g4 for a good batt life
[Galaxy S6 General] tmorterlaing:
---For now. The S6 (in all the links I posted previously) actually outperformed the LGG4 in most tests of battery - again, more efficient internals.

I'm just holding out hope either Samsung OR Google do something good with software and actually realise people enjoy battery life, OR a few ROM devs make a rom or 2 with this in mind.
[Galaxy S6 General] :
Well there already is a rom for that tho. XtreStoLite. The reason for the back battery life is the bloatware. I get 5+ hours SOT on mobile data and around 8 hours on Wifi.
[Galaxy S6 General] Clay330i:
I doubt the S6 beats this standy time. This is very much like the iPhone 6+ and iPad standby times:

So whoever recommend the G4 gave you good advice. My S6 experience in standy with the same settings was not even close. [emoji53]
[Galaxy S6 General] msavic6:
My S6 loses roughly 1% battery after 10-12 hours standby assuming I don't move around between low signal zones.

That's basically only when it's on my nightstand, when I'm at school in the concrete fortress with little to no signal and a very battery intensive wifi security setup, standby time goes to trash.
[Galaxy S6 General] Clay330i:
G4 is like that on LTE or WiFi. You must have got one of those special S6 units. Me nor 2 of my other friends have experienced that. Good luck!
[Galaxy S6 General] msavic6:
I doubt the G4 would be any different than the S6 given the conditions of my school. My S6 does noticeably better on standby over the weekend when solely on LTE, but my school is just an absolute killer.

Even with my previous device the S5, I experienced a vast difference in battery life on weekdays vs. Weekends solely because of the concrete fortress I attend on weekdays.

I don't think I was that lucky with my S6 though, I just optimized the settings for my needs, the same as I do with all my devices. For what it's worth, the S6 has better standby time than the S5 I had before it. It also has better WiFi only run time but the S5 wins out on mobile data.
[Galaxy S6 General] tmorterlaing:
This is a redundant argument for the G4 which yet again goes back to my previous points - it's software. The battery quality is equal, so battery drain on the S6 in standby should be about the same (maybe marginally more because it's a smaller battery so 1 percent is more of the overall charge) - the only thing draining the phone is activity that continues with the screen off. If it's i proper standby it shouldn't really matter what phone it is. hell, even the notoriously bad (battery wise) Nexus 4 did alright for standby time.
[Galaxy S6 General] gr4v1ty:
How can I get almost 95% of deep sleep overnight and loose 50% of my battery? I've been puzzled by this for 2-3 days since I started monitoring with BBS

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s6-edge/help/50-battery-drain-overnight-t3157798
[Galaxy S6 General] greglord:
I don't understand. Before 5.1.1 update, I've had pretty terrible battery life when I was at work. I couldn't find a reason to my problem. Eventually, clearing few apps, and clearing cache, it was finally awesome. I got approximately 2% drain per hour. Now, after I've updated to 5.1.1, the drain is back. I get from 100 to 80% in max 2 hours.

Now the funny thing is, this is only happening at my work. If I'm at home, the battery isn't going anywhere. :) At work, my phone's data is turned off, wifi on. Checking battery stats, its usually screen or Android System on 1st place with 3 to max 5%. I have no idea what to do... but its driving me nuts! :( And yes, I've cleared cache, tried safe mode and even in safe mode, the drainage is the same...
[Galaxy S6 General] Samiii2:
Something is draining my battery. I have downloaded gSam but need help figuring out what exactly is draining and how to solve it.

What screenshots do you need me to post to find out the status of my phone/battery and where all the energy goes?

Please advice
[Galaxy S6 General] joshiy3:
Well this is my battery life for a day, not impressed at all if I'm honest.
[Galaxy S6 General] ra9b:
I had the same problem as you. I snapchat a lot and it drains a lot of battery. What I started doing is that I disabled my location, and only used it when I needed it (gps, weather update, sharing location, a filter on snapchat, etc.) and this decreased my battery consumption. I believe that snapchat refreshes your location everytime it is opened, so it really drains your battery if the location is on.
[Galaxy S6 General] joshiy3:
Ahh I'll try that and see how I get on.
[Galaxy S6 General] ra9b:
Good luck, but snapchat is a battery drainer no matter what lol. Even after that, I only get like 3.5 hours of SOT in 23 hours. Which is fine with me. I may send/receive 10-20 snaps a day
[Galaxy S6 General] joshiy3:
At max I've got about 4 hours and 15 minutes but today's was just 2 hours in 11 hours of being on which just isn't on. Having come from a oneplus one it's really hard to settle for this mediocre battery life.
[Galaxy S6 General] dandrumheller:
First day on ATT OF3 firmware, not too bad. No GNow, location set to GPS only. Pretty much entirely on LTE.
[Galaxy S6 General] Quinnaay:
Battery's gone to **** again.. So bad it's embarrassing.
[Galaxy S6 General] wintermute000:
Package disabler pro in play store. One click debloat no root required FTW
[Galaxy S6 General] spike.trickster:
YEAAAAAH
[Galaxy S6 General] jj9922:
Hello guys ,

i am facing this abnormal phenomenon , it seems like every possible app is consuming way more power than my screen . that doesnt seem right at all .i disabled almost all bloatwares , updated the phone to latest version of android yet i am witnessing this abnormal drain . i dont know how much my battery life is considered good . any help??? :(
[Galaxy S6 General] criszz:
My new record. Mostly on wi-fi, 3g always on, bt off, htc launcher
[Galaxy S6 General] joshiy3:
How on earth did you get over a day and 10 hours screen on time?
[Galaxy S6 General] jj9922:
how ? :eek: i still getting all apps consumption above the screen consumption level :eek: and you are havint 10 hours SOT what is your secret
[Galaxy S6 General] scarchelli1:
Granted you have the international version, and I commonly get over 8 hours sot, 10 isn't possible unless you just leave the screen on and the phone idle. This would explain your high phone on time.
[Galaxy S6 General] ayoubij:
I have the same issue. I have no idea why this is happening. Had the same apps or even more apps on my s3 but never had this problem. On s6 many apps use more battery than the screen and i barely get 4hr sot
[Galaxy S6 General] B$!ngh:
Disable samsung push if you dont need it. Also check gsam battery monitor. Its more accurate I feel.
[Galaxy S6 General] gomek111222:
What is the reason of this. I formatted the phone and just installed WhatsApp. I slept at 95 percent of battery I have never use the phone and now the battery is at 56 percent. Please help me.
[Galaxy S6 General] Kanosha:
Wow this is a nice app especially since you can disable apps and services that you normally can't and without rooting as well. How is this app able to do that?
[Galaxy S6 General] criszz:
i have international dual sim version, wanam lite rom, unikernel v2 and htc sense launcher, used mostly on viber and only 30 min phone call's. Also i don't have FB, all sync was on, all unneeded startup programs was disabled.
[Galaxy S6 General] f1ux:
It looks like with data/WiFi off, the phone really well deep sleep properly overnight.

Weird thing is that when I enabled 'reduce background data' the battery seemed to drain faster!

Spot where data was off!
[Galaxy S6 General] skivnit:
Bad phone maybe, but can't really tell without bbs

Sent from my SM-G925F