yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] majestywil:
I'm from nyc.... tested the 2.40 today.....first off got all my sms message ...haven't tried mms as of yet....

2.40 i get signal right away as soon as my phone starts up compared to 2.19 that took 7 secs to get signal around my house in queens(long island city)....

went to brooklyn no dropped calls or ever lost signal...

drove thru the upper level of queensbridge didnt lose signal....

usually i lose signal once with 2.19.... both 2.61 and 2.19, i lose signal atleast once or twice on the f.d.r going towards washington heights...

but i didnt lose signal... good signal in washington heights from 137 to 175.....

now in Jersey i lost signal in edgewater,

but that always happens and regained signal again in about less than 10 sec....

i get one bar more compared to 2.19 as i noticed...

hope this helps guys...peace also using T-mobile
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Zer0:
Similair experience here. Installed 2.40 radio [anything over 2.19 actually(including the official cingular 2.25)] on Cingular with WM6. Works great for a few hours until the device has been sleeping for a while. That is when the missed calls with no voicemail notification problems begins. Seems to be a problem specific to Cingular.

I did notice that after I missed the call and did not recieve the notification... I flashed back to 2.19 expecting to then get the notification that I had a voicemail, but did not. Usually if your phone has no service, as soon as it gets service you recieve the notification. So... The phone has serivce, and Cingular is transmitting the notification but the phone is either not waking or not registering there is a notification. I was trying to do a reg comparison between Cingulars 2.25 ROM (OS) and a WM6 ROM. I have found a few differences regaurding RIL but no changes have seemed to helped. Anyone else know any other areas to look?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] majestywil:
I got two missed calls and immetadiely i receieved two voicemails...

pretty quick actually...

maybe its a cingular thing cuz tmobile is working fine...

but i dont i'll do a lil more test tomorrow n c....

esp. on the points u guys said about it sleeping...

i know for sure on one voicemail it was sleeping n i did get it cuz after the missed call... i hit the power button....
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] deviusdragger:
Yeah tried out the 2.40 radio and it sucked. IT SUCKED.when the phone goes to sleep i missed a bunch of calls and sms's. i had the phone in front of me and called it and it never rang. phone also was in an area with full reception. So i really dont recommend this radio. especially with WM6.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] GldRush98:
Actually the thread title clearly says "NEW HTC WIZARD radio..."

I didn't realize WM6 had problems with the 2.47 radio.

I had to many other silly problems with WM6 I couldn't stand so I went back to WM5.

I will probably get WM6 when it is officially released on the 8525 and upgrade to that phone at that time.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] W.O.P.R:
Have not had this happen yet. Granted I run PUSH and get 50-60 emails between 7am and 6pm so I wouldn't really notice during the day. I will turn PUSH off and test that tonight.

Sync's multiple times throughout the day but did not experience this. I'll keep an eye out for this.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Zer0:
The missed call/no voicemail notification issue seems to be Cingular specific.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] calouro:
Seems like the same old story...

Works well with WM6 on all carriers EXCEPT Cingular...

:(

Large power drain for me, went back to 2.25.11!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] W.O.P.R:
I took this as "NEW" meaning newly released. This is the first I have seen of this Radio ROM on the site. It is not neccessarily newer than 2.47 and up, just new to us.

But maybe Faria can shed some light on the "newness" of the ROM.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] petraviva:
I have push E-Mail from Outlook on 24/7 and I still have problems with 2.47, 2.61, and 2.69. I don't think that has any bearing on it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] GldRush98:
ah, I see.

I just interpreted the thread title differently
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] W.O.P.R:
What I meant was that with PUSH going non stop the phone would come out of sleep mode when an email is received so I wasn't able to test the lack of phone\sms\vm notify properly. By turning off PUSH I will be able to let the phone sleep so I can test a little better.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] OryHara:
On a locked G4 Wizard 8125, this utility, can also be used to flash the 2.19.11 T-Mobile rom to the G4. I thought I might add that for people that are having trouble with the T-Mobil utility. The utility with this ext Rom works with other ext roms as well if you are having problems on a locked G4.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] perm:
Making heads vs tails out of these reports

Ok, I have been trying to decide whether to risk time and frustration for a chance of a better signal and faster acquisition. But these reports are confusing at best. May I offer some suggestions.

1. Distinguish whether you use Cingular, t-mobile or are abroad (e.g. nota= none of the above). There are reports claiming a problem with Cingular and not with t-mobile, but no evidence that the writers have ever made a comparison.

2. Whether you are having problems when in weak signal areas, strong signal areas of both. The software should make no difference whatsoever on the "real" radio, which is hardware in the phone (amplifier front end), but there may be differences in how code adjust the hardware gain etc, and in filtering algorithms. Obviously this will depend on the S/N ratio.

3. Sleep problems or not, and, btw, precisely what is meant by "sleep" (e.g. running another application or really suspending.

4. Op sys. you are running, e.g. NTS's vanilla (which I am running and like), or one of the various others. If there is a software problem it stands to reason that the OS may have an effect.

5. Area where you are (rural or urban US). Some people have reported this, others not.

6. Do you have this problem with GPRS off, on, whatever.

Bottom line is maybe one of the *senior* members (not me, I'm a mere MIT engineer) could post a matrix for use in making a report. This could also help organize input from the other threads so that the quality and applicability of these reports would become more evident and beneficial to the community.

I really appreciate the terrific resources and help on this forum, but when something is quirky, like this radio business, the reports seem to degenerate into mythology. I admire NTS b/c he cut to the chase and simplified things, so that one could tell what worked.

For the record, I am on t-mobile in the Bay Area, running NTS vanilla with his native radio 2.19. Originally the worst, and a deadly problem, was the registry audio gain settings, now fixed. As for the radio, I qualitatively perceive slow acquisition at times (even when there is a strong signal), and sometimes (rarely) have to reboot (soft boot) to get acquisition. I don't have GPRS, I do use wifi and, on occasions, bluetooth. I believe (but no side-by-side) that phone reception was a tad better (stronger perceived signal) and more reliable (no acquisition delay) when I was using stock t-mobile wm5. However the unit is *much* more responsive and useful with NTS' wm6. So from my perspective, the only problem is that the phone side acquisition and reception is inferior to the original t-mob wm5. On the other hand the software features, dialing, address scrolling, voice recognition with ms voice, are better now.

I took notice that NTS is sticking with radio 2.19 for the moment, although he *is* on Cingular (no idea whether this *really* makes a difference).

Oh yeah, "new" doesn't necessarily mean better.

How this helps somebody give us good advice and/or make repairs.

Thank you to all.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mfrazzz:
This probably makes the most sense of everything I've heard about the possible reasons. Something with WM6 screwing with the radio's 850MHz frequency. Not exactly sure how that would happen, but this issue does seem to be mainly around Cingular, and as you mentioned, Cigular is teh largest 850MHz carrier.

I honestly can't explain this behavior... But since reflashing 2.19 (after rebooting my computer) I've connected and disconnected my phone a number of times today and no problem with ActiveSync since. We'll see how it goes tomorrow.

As I stated in my previous post, I'm done with roms above 2.19 until I see other people on Cingular having good results. Maybe if / when the 8525 gets WM6 on Cingular, we can snatch the radio from it (not sure if they are compatible or not though since thats a 3G device).
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mfrazzz:
This info may actually be better in the thread on fixing GSM radio issues with WM6...

Cingular

Strong Signal areas

As reported earlier today, the problem did not seem to happen with this rom when my phone was connected to ActiveSync or if I called when the screen was on (whether backlight was on or not didn't make a difference, it still worked). I even let the phone go to sleep (ie: Not use it for about 10 minutes, well after my 5min power timeout setting on battery) and called it, and it would wake up and ring. Same with SMS in this same test. It wasn't until I went to bed and the phone was off for an extended period of time did I start missing calls and sms messages. Before going back to 2.19 to test this I let it go to sleep and called it again after about 10mins of inactivity (so asleep for around 5mins) and it rang. I then let it sit for about an hour and tried it again and it did not wake up. I couldn't play more due to the fact I needed the phone and couldn't afford to having it missing calls.

Currently I'm still running the Faria Vanilla WM6 Beta. But I can tell you this same thing happened when I was running on MBE, NTS, aRTM, and XPlore (so every WM6 I've been on) when trying to use T-Mobile 2.25, Cingular 2.25, the 2.61, and 2.69 radios (Note, I had major issues with 2.47 radio on WM5 so I've never tried it on WM6). Also, the 2.61 radio worked just fine on my stock Cingular 2.25 rom (before I was CID Unlocked), and seemed to be fine on Faria's AKU 3.3 rom (I didn't extensively test it as I moved on to MBE pretty quickly).

I'm in a small community 6 mi NE of Colorado Springs. I guess you'd call this rual, but the coverage with Cingular is very good here (and partly why I don't ahve T-Mobile, Verizon or other services as they don't have great coverage here).

Don't know. But since the phone is sleeping, I'd say GPRS is probably off (I don't think that stays connected, but I could be wrong). I know last night before going to bed, I sync'd my contacts and appointments via SyncML, so GPRS was connected before going to bed.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] raventec:
This radio seems to be working well for me in the Northwest. I'm with T-Mobile US. In a lousy spot in town for wireless signals. We're covered, there's just a lot of interference in this particular spot RF and otherwise... (I won't even listen to an am/fm radio here due to noise) I'm using WM6 and so far I haven't got any dropped calls and it seems that I don't have nearly as many service disconnections that I did with 2.19. I've had quite a few calls the past few days. I also have pushmail from T-Mobile running and an activesync connection to an exchange server sending me emails which are mostly a lot of voicemails. I don't have any accurate way of measuring anything but as far as I'm concerned, this radio is worth a shot.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] OryHara:
I am not an HTC engineer, but I have messed with many phones before these, mostly the moto v551, and consider myself an expert on that particular model. As well as portable devices, especially in Linux based Routers, and networking. I can tell you, from observation, and experience in general that the radio issue, is an issue with WM6 itself. Not with the customization of these roms, or their software. It is a SLEEP & WAKE issue. (When your windoze peecee crashes from wake) For some reason, Wm6 does NOT like radio firmware (roms) other than the Tmobile 2.19.11 one from my experience. I have tried 5 or 6 ext roms to test this. Although your phone DOES in fact intercept the signal, it will not wake to alarm you. You are actually not dropping calls, but missing them, if your phone is running an app, it may / may not work. If it has been idle a while, it will not ring through unless you manually unwake it with the power button on top, then it will ring after a couple of seconds if no apps are running. On x86 this is a implementation called ACPI. These HTC phones may have something similar. I have not dug into them enough to be able to tell you.

I live in the south, 80 miles from Memphis, so we have towers everywhere within a 30 mile radius. I would imagine this is due to the fact that these faria versions are versions of WM6 that were tested with the 2.19.11 roms by M$ themselves. This is just speculation, but it can't be far off if it is not true.

I do not use GPRS since most areas in the south now have %60 coverage of wifi, and %90 in town. (off topic)Plus the company I own has 6 1w towers covering most of our county. Your HTC 8125 although claimed a max of 11mbits is really capable of 24mbits running 802.11g. It will not do full 54mbits according to my tests.

EDIT: Correction. 36 Mbps max on 802.11 standing 3 ft from 250 milliwatt repeater.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Billabond1:
I have an idea, whether it will work or not is a different story. Would it be possible to write an app that runs in the background that every 10 minutes or so would wake up the phone with the buttons locked for a few seconds and shut then it off? This could work for testing the sleep long theory. I do not know enough about coding these things to do it myself.

In sudo code it would work like this:

Timer hits 10 minutes

if phone is sleeping then trigger wake up

as soon as awake, lock keys

count 5 seconds then reset timer and turn off

I have no idea if this is possible or even if it would work at all, but it would take the phone out of "deep sleep" or whatever you wish to call it.

Just throwing an idea out there...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] alexn2:
Thanks to the none htc engineer and the guinea pigs before me; until Cingular releases a radio rom its 2.19 forever. I've had emergencies where people tried to reach me for hours with no success. We all have to remember after all the phone stuff, need to upgrade, trying out the latest technology etc. The Wizard is still a phone and when you dont get calls or text messages then it becomes a brick.....

By the way, time to stop blaming Cingular.... Its At&T screwing up now as usual.....

"OUT"
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] OryHara:
Anything is possible. Its a matter of getting someone to write it. It would be better probably to have an app send some type of 'wake ping' to the radio itself.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] OryHara:
Of course. That is why their logo looks like a giant deathstar. :) hehe
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] W.O.P.R:
1. TMobile USA

2. All Signal Areas

3. Sleep mode - meaning that the device "turns Off" after a certain amount of time. Mine is set to 2 mins on External Power.

4. NotTooSmart Vanilla WM6

5. Denver, CO - Populated Areas

6. GPRS Always On

I do not seem to be having an issue currently. I tested last night after letting my phone sit for approx 30 mins without touching. GPRS was off so no PUSH email notification to wake up phone. Did not receive any calls or sms from an outside party. Tested from my wifes phone multiple times. Let phone sit for another 1 hour and tested again and still not having an issue, phone rings through. Let sit entire night and received a call first thing this morning from work.

2.47 and 2.61 were a big problem for me. 2.69 seemed to work for about 2 weeks and then it all of the suuden started to have issues. Obviously 2.19 worked but the signal quality and connection time were slow.

As other users seem to be seeing, this may just be an issue with Cingular\AT+T. I do not have a way to test this on my own, but from the sound of it, it may be that this radio does not work well with 850, but does on 1900.

mfrazzz or anyone for that matter- do you know anyone with a tmobile sim? Maybe you could pop the sim into your device and test calls? I used to work for TMo as a sales rep so everyone I know bought service from me so I can't think of a single person with Cingular that I could use as a test.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] gmanus:
Folks,

cannot access the FTP site. would like to try this Radio. can someone post the correct link or if the RAdio has been hosted somewhere else, please provide that link.

thanks a ton for everything. keep up the good work.

Cheers,

G3 - TMO US

Faria's CB rom

GSM - 2.69

IPL/SPL - 3.08

OS - 2.28.0.0
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] bachviet:
I have used this radio ROM for the last 3-5 days and it works pretty well with T-Mobile in SoCal. It regains signal pretty fast and has stronger reception than the 2.19. I'm using Faria's AKU3.3v2 ROM and has no missed call issue that I know of.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] gmanus:
Sorry, Fat fingered the OS entry.

Os is 2.18.0.0
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Intergalactic:
Confirmed 2.40 Is A Stronger Radio Than 2.19

I'm also in the Denver, Colorado area, my carrier T-Mobile. I am running the (Wizard_NTS_1010811_21911, Now with the 2.40) Thus far I'm finding the 2.40 a little bit stronger than its counterpart, the 2.19. The things I notice the most was the data transmission rate was faster with the 2.40. Also when I'm using my Slingbox, my (FPS) and (Kbps) are much higher now. I believe the 2.40 works better with T-Mobile, than Cingular for some reason. Now for me the 2.40 is a must have!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] W.O.P.R:
ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/faria-roms/radio2.40.11.zip
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] human75:
this radio rom is good!

works perfect in capetown.we have cell-c and vodacom.all other radio roms gave me hard time!(2.69.11,2.47.11,2.19.11,2.25.11)but this rom work perfect!it picks signal up quickly,full coverage even in dead coverage area!it works Nice on gprs as well.my rate is 8/10.thanks faria
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] edhaas:
Tried this radio for a few days. Actually was running it on a WM5 Tmobile Rom. Yesterday a voicemail did not indicate on my wizard, and I didn't hear the original call. Back to 2.19.11 for me. (Also back to WM6, but that's another story.)

Regards,
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] petraviva:
I would agree with you. When I tried 2.47, 2.61, and 2.69 and the device is in sleep mode when a call comes in, the left and right hardkey light up for the duration of the call but the mobile does not ring.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] gmanus:
Thanks Jmastera,

worked perfectly.

Appreciated!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] k2e15:
Same problem, just I'm on Xplore 1.1. and I have missed a couple ot sms messages and I voicemail still hasnt shown up.. One more day of 2.40 and I'm going back to 2.19 if the problem keeps going.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] dy2592:
Does it matter what device you are using?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Intergalactic:
T-mobile Or Cingular (at&t)

The people who are having a problem with the 2.40 vs the 2.19, please let us know your carrier and the wm6 software version you are using. This will give us a good ideal where the problems really are, because all the Cingular people don't seem to like the 2.40. I want to see all my T-Mobile and Cingular friends happy too...............!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] WizardGuy:
Updating Radio on CID Locked G4

Can I just run the ROMupdateutility to update my radio ROM on a CID locked G4 units?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] deviusdragger:
well i had that 2.40 radio on my 8125 with cingular and on Farias WM6 the real thing rom. Radio worked like ****. No Good.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] petraviva:
I am on Cingular using an original AT&T blue SIM. My WM6 version is mun_rus.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Intergalactic:
CHANGE TO FARIA'S [the real thing] 2.40 ON T-MO STILL WORKS GREAT!

I change my ROM back to Faria's [the real thing] just to see if the 2.40 would work better and believe it or not, I think the 2.40 gives a stronger signal strength on Faria's Rom, than it did on my old Wizard NTS ROM. Why some you are having problems, I don't know understand! Still my signal strength is a full 4 bars all over town!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] W.O.P.R:
If last night were any indicator as to if 2.40.11 works on TMobile in Denver than I am going to stick it out for a while. I received multiple SMS and Calls throughout the night while the phone would normally be in "sleep" mode. Freaky Storm came through town yesterday and random power outages were causing my 24 helpdesk to see servers\routers drop all night and of course I get the calls. While annoying to get woken up 5 times it was a great test. At this point, I can honestly say that the 2.40.11 Radio Rom works on my Wizard running WM6 on the TMobile network. In Denver atleast.;)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] petraviva:
For us Cingular users, the later ROMs actually give better RF reception for performance form what I have seen. I think battery life is better too. It is a software issue as another poster has suggested. With 2.19 over last weekend, I was dropping voice packets downstairs in my house being only a mile from the Everglades. Upstairs it works fine. In comparison, 2.47, 2.61, and 2.69 worked well downstairs while on a call.

The isssue is lack of receipt of incoming calls. I think in all the cases I have read, the users suffering from this issue are NOT suffering from lack of signal, just lack of notification under certain conditions, namely that the phone is sleeping when a call comes in.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Intergalactic:
I'm Totally In According With You!

I live in the Denver area too and THE 2.40 did work fine through those stroms. Maybe it's a ROM made only for T-Mobile users.....!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] joaosousa:
Hi, I am also using IPL\SPL: 3.08 and Radio Version: 2.40.11 and Faria Kitchen Rom (WM6) , and i have no problems with it. I live in Portugal and i am a Vodafone client.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] cushcalc:
2.40.11 Radio with Cingular

I'm using this in Denver, CO on my 8125 with Cingular - no problems.

See my signature for what I'm on. Seems faster than most other radio ROM's for me, with no dropped calls. Not running WM6 because of a few problems, and wanting to run E-Ten big button dialer. Everything works will with Molski final 2.26