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[Galaxy S6 General] stevessvt:
Everyone with high Google services usage check to make sure always scanning WiFi isn't on under advanced WiFi. Mine was and after I turned it off play services isn't even listed under battery any more.
[Galaxy S6 General] Fille84:
For me it doesnt drain that much on mobile networks either for that matter...a tiny bit more than on wifi.
[Galaxy S6 General] belloni:
Under "Always allow scanning" I only have two options as below:

Scan Always

Scan only while Wifi is on

I'm assuming it's the bottom one that should be enabled?
[Galaxy S6 General] stevessvt:
Hmm, mine only has a check box next to 'Always Allow Scanning', which was checked. Unchecking it completely stopped the Play services battery usage. I would uncheck both and see where that gets you.
[Galaxy S6 General] belloni:
Sorry should have been more clear. I can only chose either of them, I can't turn it off as it were.
[Galaxy S6 General] stevessvt:
Oh OK, then yes, only while wifi is on.
[Galaxy S6 General] microserfs:
Okay so I discovered something is definitely keeping the phone awake, but not sure what. Battery life is average at best, but I'm still enjoying the phone so I'm not ready to give up on it yet. I've deleted Facebook since these photos and started to just use the browser to look at it but I'm still not seeing a difference in terms of battery life. Screen on time could be better.. am getting a max of between 3-4 hours.

At a last resort I will factory reset the phone but I'm reluctant to try that just yet, will see how it goes in the meantime.
[Galaxy S6 General] hovanhuang:
how's Xstestrolite rom? any bugs? my biggest concern is that camera. Can they keep the stock cam app?
[Galaxy S6 General] barondebxl:
Its excellent. The themes are not working for some reason but he said it will be fixed in the next build. Camera works great.
[Galaxy S6 General] bkeaver:
This is unfortunate as a week wouldn't have been enough time for mine to settle down. It to mine a good 10 days before I started seeing consistant 4 to 5 hours and up to 6 on good days on sot.
[Galaxy S6 General] gigoypotpot:
At 13 days, my batt just keeps getting better IMO. Reached 7hrs SOT this last charge! :eek::eek::eek::eek:
[Galaxy S6 General] Bass-15:
That's so awesome! How is it that your phone is like never woken up! What settings do you have to achieve these results?? :)
[Galaxy S6 General] gigoypotpot:
Im not really sure why that is, but i know there was an explanation for that a few posts back. I used to have cpu spy installed and i have verified that my phone goes into deep sleep. My settings are pretty straight forward, brigthness set to about 20%. Google now is on but no cards just "ok google", location on wifi/data, wifi does not scan, samsung lock off, disabled bloat, volte off, location history on. Bluetooth on when i need it. Sync on for 1 google acct and 2 yahoo accts. No sync for fb or fb messenger, but i do have them. I also use twitter and IG a lot, including spotify. I lose about 6% overnight when i go to bed. That's pretty much it, really.
[Galaxy S6 General] apsis:
I wonder when xda started to become such a place for trolls.

You are posting in the scratched display thread, providing manufacturing date and location. Telling that the screen isn't scratched and people start flaming, saying that they just seem unscratched cause no one really inspects his phone.

If you post your battery run times here, people start to flame that you were just looking at a black pic, use their phones as a dumb phone, stay in airplane mode for the entire day to reach high SOTs.that's hilarious.

I thought this a thread to see what you might get, to see what might be wrong, to get some help to increase battery life.

With people flaming on each page, how long do you think people will still give help in here?

Just my two cents
[Galaxy S6 General] scarchelli:
Anyone able to tell me how sync works with the gmail app? I recently went to the gmail app from the stock email app to save battery more, and am using a gmail account, hotmail, and exchange account for my school. Thing is, I have them all set to NOT sync in account settings, I also turned off the master sync option in the settings bar. Yet, I still get mail on all accounts. How is this possible?
[Galaxy S6 General] orange-man1:
I am on AT&T and the culprit for my battery problem appears to be wifi. I don't know how to interpret wifi being 50%. I have the podcast app Pocket Casts that automatically downloads all podcasts while on wifi, so I'm sure this is a big part of it, but 50%? It doesn't seem logical. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[Galaxy S6 General] gigoypotpot:
Maybe turn off wifi to always scan? I've turned it off on mine and seems to help. Also, I turned off VoLTE and it seems to have decreased wifi too. Hth!
[Galaxy S6 General] Fille84:
Pls dude...just stop. Everyone can see you haven't used any apps on that screenshot. I mean only 12% used by apps? And no awake time.
[Galaxy S6 General] Gboss01:
I no longer even bother with battery stats anymore for a few reasons. Firstly becoz i can easily go 1 to 1.5 days on a single charge with between 4 to 5 hrs SOT. Secondly its too easy to fake your SOT.

Set screen timeout to 30min and leave phone alone, only hitting home to bring the screen back on after it switches off. If i had the inclination and patience I could probably hit 10hrs SOT......

Not flaming anyones posts on here at all. Just MHO :)
[Galaxy S6 General] Japultra:
People who do this are, for lack of a better word, losers. This isn't a race to see who can get the most SoT under abnormal conditions. These people just set unrealistic expectations for other people.

My phone is currently at a state where battery performance is similar to yours. I am currently at 17 hours 40m at 64% with 1h45m SoT on my phone. With this level of performance, I'm happy.
[Galaxy S6 General] Gboss01:
Cant agree more with what you just said. People that do this just setup others for disappointment. Then you get people flaming the S6 coz they cant achieve 7hrs SOT [emoji13]
[Galaxy S6 General] Biggenz:
Has anyone got a way to make Google Services cause less battery drainage without having root?

I find that it is by far the thing that uses the most battery. The screen seems particularly frugal with battery use so I've turned up the brightness. :D
[Galaxy S6 General] dandrumheller:
I'm a new guy here, still working it out, but disabling google now seems to have had a good impact in that regard for me. Only a couple days / charge cycles in though.
[Galaxy S6 General] Josh LaCelle:
Exactly!!!!!! :good:
[Galaxy S6 General] yvibes:
I guess you could say I have the patience then.
[Galaxy S6 General] aliHTCDHD:
Yes I know you said that we shouldn't judge devices on pre release, I agree and I responded by saying it ain't pre release tho. We don't know for sure but if gsm wanted to review the s6 with beta sw they would have done it on the announcement day. They waited two weeks for a reason, so the sw is final or very near final. Look at m9, not a single review yet. Until sw is final we don't see reviews, oems have got clever.

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Yes I agree that we shouldn't judge a phone on one review but what I stated was just from what we saw in first impressions. I do too believe that the amount of hardware efficiency we have in s6 there shouldnt be a massive reduction. Finfet is meant to be really good. Tbh some of you (not all) are being hypocrites because your saying you shouldn't review a phone on first impression yet your all over m9, it's camera samples and speed.
[Galaxy S6 General] BoneXDA:
No mate, they were busy working at MWC for the following week then bring the pre-lease device home to Bulgaria and work on the review for the next 5 days, they still didn't receive a release unit or SW cause there is no release unit and SW. No matter. The release is just a month away and we'll see how close GSMA's preview got to the real deal, no need to spend any more comments on the matter.
[Galaxy S6 General] aliHTCDHD:
Whether it is or isn't, it doesn't really matter. What matters is whether "the final sw" will give us an improvement from gsm arena review.

Although you guys are annoyed with gsm arena they praised s6 in some parts more than they deserved.
[Galaxy S6 General] meboy:
You're guessing.

Someone on youtube that has an S6 was informed that his device was pre-release and will be getting a software update before launch.

I'm worried about battery but the Facts are suggesting that the S6 will have as good if not slightly better battery life than the S5.
[Galaxy S6 General] aliHTCDHD:
We are all guessing tbh the only reason I'm convinced it's running final sw or very near final is because it took 2 weeks to get the review out so obviously bugs were being squashed during that time and because starting from tomorrow in the UK you can play with the s6 in store. Your telling me Samsung would allow their phone to be in stores before version is final or very near final? I doubt it.
[Galaxy S6 General] David_freestyle:
Battery life still being a mystery, as I see. Some people say one thing, some say another and I don't know well... When it comes on sale, we will know really how is it. We'll se more reviews and we'll know for sure the features, and I'm gonna be looking for accessories to the battery (like the Zerolemon's battery case) till I really know.
[Galaxy S6 General] aliHTCDHD:
Your right your not smasungsexual your applesexual :p

I'm not gonna really write a whole article to reply back cos your just blind and stupid. I will try though to get some information into your thick head. Androidpolice and other tech sites always praise samsung and apple. If your buying a device on their recommendation then your blind. I'm really not surprised that androidpoice said what they have. Your just absurd with the whole "m9 feels like a cheap car" just because someone else said it. You talk about not being blind from obvious truth yet you believe whatever reviewers say even if it's against obvious truth.

S6 has a good display, camera and is feature rich. I have praised them were it is due but you haven't given HTC a single credit. The whole Samsung has best everything is just complete bull**it. You slam the m9 and use reviewers as proof and tell me to accept the "truth" yet when someone says something bad about s6 you ignore it all, you see how much of a hypocrite you are! I liked the people on this thread and we've had a good discussion but you are just daft. I haven't read all your rubbish because it's just a stupid kid crying because someone said something bad about s6.

Samsung s6 has a better design then m9, ***** please! ;)
[Galaxy S6 General] Applesexual:
The M9 has better sound and expandable Sd card slot. I've given them credit where it is due. You can't use past Samsung devices to say that TW is less optimized than sense, since Samsung reworked TW from the ground-up for the S6. People who have used the device have said that it doesn't lag or stutter a bit and is as fast as stock Android.

The only issue I have with GSMArena's battery life test is that Samsung has never been wrong about battery life in previous models, so unless their testing methodology changed, I don't know why battery life should deviate from their stated 12 hours wifi and 11 hours LTE figures.

GSMArena was wrong about the S6's display brightness and speaker loudness/quality in comparison to the S5, so I wouldn't be surprised if they messed up the battery life analysis as well.

I will wait for Anandtech's analysis.
[Galaxy S6 General] derWolf_:
I really didn't wanted to get involved in this discussion, since I like both phones equally much, but!

That's the biggest BS I've read in a while. Saying 810 is hardly an improvement over the 805 is like saying that Audi R8 is hardly an improvement over VW Golf ya know.... That is one of the biggest improvements in the M9 compared to the M8.

Also saying that the M9 (a full metal unibody smartphone, with GG4 at the front) feels like an used old car or whatever? Does anybody seriously believe this cr@p?? That compassion blows everything out of the water in terms of dumbness.

Actually I don't know which of the two statements was dumber - the one about the chipset, or the one about the used old car.
[Galaxy S6 General] Applesexual:
The 805 scores a 1000-1100 on singlecore performance on geekbench. The 810 scores 1100.

Multicore performances only differ by a couple hundred.

Not much of a difference except the aggressive throttling on one of the processors which I don't think I need to name.
[Galaxy S6 General] derWolf_:
Aha.... you are comparing them in terms of benchmarks. I really don't know how to respond to that. If a benchmark is your base of knowledge then its gg.

p.s.

Oh and you are talking about a single core performance. Hahaha.... Touche. You left me speechless! :))
[Galaxy S6 General] Applesexual:
The multicore performances only differs by 200-300 points. Not a noteworthy difference.

Also, you forget that in this case, benchmarks do tell the whole story, since the SD 810 and Exynos 7420 use the same exact reference ARM cores. The only difference is that the 7420 is manufactured on Samsung's latest state-of-the-art 14nm finfet fab, giving it superior performance.

There really isn't much to debate, and benchmark scores should scale linearly with these two.

The only time where the M9 has better performance than the S6 is when the S6 is running a game at native 2k resolution, but you can always bring down the resolution to 1080p, giving the S6 the edge.
[Galaxy S6 General] aliHTCDHD:
I've been through your posts, your new to this forum. A word of advice is don't call people liars or stupid. Regarding m9 and s6 you say that I shouldn't say s6 tw lags from past experiences yet you use samsung past battery as an indication on it's future performance. All I can say is go to a shop, see s6, m9 and decide for yourself what you like and whatever you do pick, good for you.
[Galaxy S6 General] derWolf_:
Ok, ok, ok. Allow me to summarize. You mean to tell me that there is no difference between the performance of the 64bit, based on 20nm process, snapdragon 810 and the 32bit, 24nm process 805. Do you seriously believe this? Forget the benchmarks, forget all the things you told me, and think whether it is even remotely possible that Qualcomm's latest state-of-the-art SoC is going to be on par with the one from 2014? If you really believe this is true, do not answer me anymore. I will really have nothing to tell you anymore.
[Galaxy S6 General] Applesexual:
No, you're mixing things up.

TW has been reprogrammed from the ground-up, so the S6's TW will be different from previous TW, making them incomparable.

The battery life inconsistency has nothing to do with designing something from the ground-up like TW or the S6's metal and glass design. This issue deals with honesty, not design changes.

When reporting battery life, Samsung has always been honest about their devices.

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There is a difference.

I predict that the 810 will start off with better performance for the first few minutes before throttling itself to lower performance than its predecessor.

Here is something written by Ruddock:

"OK, I've got a new toy for testing out the Snapdragon 810 (HTC M9), and my preliminary results with this test show something that, at least on paper, seems potentially troubling.

I'm using a new heat stress test from Geekbench, which basically does a continuous high CPU load cycle over and over as long as you want it to run (like Prime95 sort of).

So, here's what I observed.

The Snapdragon 810 has 8 CPU cores - four low-power A53 cores at 1.6GHz, and four high-power A57 cores at around 2GHz.

The thermal benchmark I used will run those A57 cores at 1.5-2GHz for about a minute or two, then they'll drop down to 1GHz-1.4GHz. Then, two of the A57 cores shut down. This is where I get concerned.

The two remaining A57s run at about 1.3-1.4GHz for several minutes - maybe 2-3. Then they throttle down to 1GHz, maybe bouncing back to 1.2GHz a few times, but mostly sitting at 1GHz. Then they drop to 864MHz, then 768, then finally they go full limp mode at drop to 384MHz. That is, two A57 cores active and clocked at 20% of their rated speed.

At this point, the A53 cores (the low-power and low-heat) take over, and run continuously at 1.555GHz, occasionally allowing two of the A57s to take over at 864MHz until they quickly throttle down to limp mode again, and the A53s then take back over.

Tl;dr this seems like some pretty heavy-handed throttling.﻿"

Qualcomm didn't have a choice here. 64-bit is a key marketing point, even if it is useless.

P.S. The 805 is on 28nm node, not 24nm. I don't think TSMC has 24nm.
[Galaxy S6 General] aliHTCDHD:
We will see whether s6 battery is good when all reviews come through and regarding s810. I don't expect it to be amazing since it's their first high perf octa core soc but I doubt it will be a little improvement over 805.

You should never look at benchmarks as a indication to real world performance.
[Galaxy S6 General] derWolf_:
You are right about the 805 being on 28, not 24nm! My bad.

Your whole post is about throttling though, which I haven't discussed at all. Now you are talking about the issues the 810 might have, whether before you were comparing 805 to the newest version? Stick to either one of the topics, don't mix them....

Now, about that throttling. This is the second time I hear something about that, and I've read/ listened to quite a lot of first impressions on the phone. So 2 cases out of many more.... I really don't see an issue here. But even if we say, that in fact there is throttling (which there might be, I don't believe it, but it doesn't mean there can't be) do you seriously believe it won't be fixed?
[Galaxy S6 General] Applesexual:
The issue is very real.

"Having spoking to several people in the loop on Snapdragon 810 at MWC this year, I can pretty much confirm the chip has Qualcomm in full-on damage control.

Partners had no idea until the last minute that Snapdragon 820 would be announced at the show, and the general consensus on 810 is that of a significant misstep. Qualcomm is deeply worried that it will lose partners long-term who may end up getting burned (pun intended) by giving 810 their design win, and even had Peter Chou of HTC up there selling Snapdragon during the MWC press conference.

I've also heard at least one partner may drop 810 from their portfolio, instead opting for 808, which has a less aggressive dual-core A57 layout (with quad A53s). This version of the chip also will benefit from the revisions Qualcomm has made to its A57/A53 architecture to avoid the kind of thermal issues that legitimately plague the 810.

Essentially, Qualcomm will probably not provide a legitimate competitor to Samsung's 7400-series Exynos this year, and if they do, it won't happen until very late in the year, with mainstream Snapdragon 820 phones hitting the market probably in early 2016. Qualcomm isn't on a failing trajectory by any means, but their 2015 flagship-tier SoCs are unlikely to impress versus those from Apple or Samsung.

Flagships from Motorola, HTC, and LG could all end up with suboptimal solutions this year because Qualcomm overpromised on 810 and categorically underdelivered.﻿"

You also have LG G Flex 2 as proof.

Then there's this a few days ago: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony...t-dissipation-from-the-thin-Xperia-Z4_id66984
[Galaxy S6 General] derWolf_:
I definitely think the whole throttling and temperature issues on the 810 are waaaay exaggerated. If the situation was THAT bad as you are presenting it, do you seriously think that htc, LG and Sony would opt for that SoC for their phones? htc are company that just a few months ended an endless series of loses and absolutely no profit whatsoever. With the M8 they started turning things around,and the M9 is really important for them. Let me ask you this again: do you seriously believe that, if the issues were that bad, they would opt for it? Either they are ridiculously stupid or the whole issue is overblown.
[Galaxy S6 General] Gboss01:
Can't tell if your proving my point or just trolling :silly:

LOL from what I see your phone had very little activity besides the screen being on and 7% being used by music or video.

Be honest, did you just leave your screen on and not use the phone?

Or did you run your phone on UPSM?

PS: I must say your battery drain while idle looks great! I lose about 3-4% overnight, it looks like you use less than that.

NB: I don't turn off my wifi or mobile data or sync or anything when I go to bed.
[Galaxy S6 General] stevessvt:
Make sure Always Scanning is unchecked under advanced wifi. Now Google services maybe uses 1-2%, if it gets listed at all, for me.
[Galaxy S6 General] Biggenz:
I've done that, plus disable almost all the other Google services but it's still happening.

Strange thing is it didn't happen the first week or so. Maybe the latest update is causing this.
[Galaxy S6 General] stevessvt:
Also make sure under google settings-location-google location history is off. In fact, even if it is off turn it on, turn it off for the actual device, then turn it off again.
[Galaxy S6 General] YaviSGS:
I also stopped monitoring my battery life. I can easily do a full day heavy-medium use.
[Galaxy S6 General] gigoypotpot:
FWIW, I just wanted to show that it is possible to get 7hrs of sot WHILE ACTUALLY USING THE PHONE and tweaking it to your desires. To assume and blatantly accuse someone of faking results is just plain wrong. And with that, I am done.
[Galaxy S6 General] 4NDROID4LIFE:
Do you guys think even if this phone had a 3200 man battery it would kill it just as fast? I've heard reviews say that they have to charge it by 3pm. Is the it the display or the soc? Thanks

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5 hours of Facebook lol nice I'm jelly right...
[Galaxy S6 General] Josh LaCelle:
The screen doesn't drain that much. I can probably get 6-7 SOT in airplane mode... maybe more.

On any given day it will last you through on light to medium usage. I can get over 1 day of standby easily with 3-4hrs of SOT.

Over 5-6hrs of SOT I am pretty sure is not possible. A lot of people saying they get that are not using their phones properly (ie. fabricating times.)
[Galaxy S6 General] YaviSGS:
5 hours of Facebook?