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[Galaxy S6 General] abbaskip:
I'm getting conflicting specs from different sites. Does anyone know if the phone includes MHL? It's missing on most spec sheets I've seen, but then it's on others.

No removeable battery can possibly be overlooked if the battery life is good enough, but no MHL, no MicroSD and no waterproofing all seem like big, unnecessary steps back.
[Galaxy S6 General] tft:
since when has samsung includes a MHL in their phones? i don't recall any.

samsung is turning into apple, less is more... you'd be lucky there is still earbuds in the box.
[Galaxy S6 General] abbaskip:
Samsung have had MHL since the S2, and I've used it in every model (S2, S3 4G and S4 - I didn't get the s5 as the step up wasn't big enough). Knowing the basics before responding would be good.
[Galaxy S6 General] tft:
it's common sense it will have MHL support since it's been in there in pretty much all their phones.. i thought you meant the actual MHL cable/adapter...
[Galaxy S6 General] Super Chimp:
Can't help feeling the ordinary S6 is going to get forgotten with the Edge version around.
[Galaxy S6 General] abbaskip:
Not really. I think that's making assumptions.

MicroSD and removable battery has been in all of their phones too - but that isn't there this time around. Loads of spec sheets have it missing from the connectivity section, and they usually include everything in there.

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I'm not sure about that. Using my wife's Z3 Compact I get annoyed that the screen is so sensitive it keeps thinking I'm touching the edges of it. With the curved glass, I'd be worried that it's always going to think that I'm touching the sides. Also don't really see the advantage in the curved surface.
[Galaxy S6 General] Super Chimp:
Apparently from the admittedly limited number of mentions of this I have so far seen the edge doesn't appear to cause touch issues.
[Galaxy S6 General] hella356:
Lacking SD is a big turnoff to me. If it had SD, I'd still pay up for the 128GB version to get 256GB total. If Samsung made a plastic version of the S6 with removable battery, SD slot - make that 2 SD slots, front stereo speakers, water resistance, USB3, and 256GB internal storage, I'd pony up top dollar for it. Even if it just added removable battery & SD slot, the S6 would be looking like a no-brainer for my uses.

Otherwise, the more I read about it, the better the S6 looks. The super bright 2K screen, offering usage in direct sunlight, is a big deal. Wireless and otherwise sped-up charging is a very nice step forward. Keeping the phone pretty lightweight, IOS, UFS, 3GB of faster RAM, supposedly leaner TW, etc.

I can't say I'm really rooting for them, given what I see as several big backwards steps, but I have little doubt this will be a big winner for Samsung. Too bad they've taken on several of Apple's worst aspects to get there.
[Galaxy S6 General] varunkumars:
I have a quick question, does AT&T in USA also come with EXYNOS chipset??
[Galaxy S6 General] abbaskip:
Spot on. I'm really torn, as I'm very happy with the engine room of this phone, and it does look a nice handset. But I really don't understand some of the features they've taken away.

To me, the whole point of having a non-removable battery and wireless charging, is to make water proofing more effective. So why remove water proofing?

No MicroSD I can overlook, if my local telcos have up to 128GB available, but it's still disappointing.

MHL is really a must, so I'm still awaiting confirmation on that.

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Currently they've stated that all versions will be Exynos. But if that's going to be different anywhere, it'll be the US I'd suggest.
[Galaxy S6 General] Annunneo:
Damn you Samsung for removing SD card support. Damn you to fricking hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Galaxy S6 General] BigMosley:
I have always bought the ZeroLemon extended batteries and I paid big money for my 128gb Micro SD card. I PRAY they don't make the Note 5 like this junk or I will be sticking with my Note 3 or leaving Samsung :thumbdown:
[Galaxy S6 General] abbaskip:
I think plenty of people will be thinking along these lines. They've invested big coin into good, fast, high capacity MicroSD cards, and now have no purpose for them. Even more annoying was that there was no indication of this move at all from Samsung. They've always had expandable storage, and it was only leaked around a week before the specs (whilst every other spec was announced ages before!).

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http://gadgets.ndtv.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-edge-2444

Another site saying no MHL.

Anything official I find seems to not mention it either way. Then loads of websites seem to either think no mention means it doesn't have it, whilst others seem to just be assuming. Would love to hear officially one way or the other.
[Galaxy S6 General] pvc_:
Samsung is not gonna get the boost in sales they were looking for and will have to bring back some features later on. They may even come out with a more feature friendly phone in a few months. Call it Alpha, Active, or who gives a crap.

Just give us the same internals, camera, and LCD as S6, but put it in a water resistant enclosure with removable battery and SD card. How hard is that? They've been doing that for years!!
[Galaxy S6 General] abbaskip:
Yeah, I'm wondering if they will do this.

It's so ludicrous, to think that the way to fix your diminishing sales figures is to release a phone that alienates your core customer base.

The people that were still buying the Galaxy S series, and have since the start, obviously liked MicroSD and removable batteries.
[Galaxy S6 General] lopri:
Technological marvel. I do not want to go overboard with excitement, but it is simply astounding how far smartphones have come in such short time. It is difficult to even begin to comprehend what kind of computing power people will be carrying in their pocket. The amount of techs in this phone is mind-blowing. It does not look like this phone will be topped by anything else in 2015, perhaps except for Samsung's own Note 5.

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All these complaints about the S6/Edge have "Doth protest too much" ring to it. :D
[Galaxy S6 General] abbaskip:
The issue isn't with the power behind the phone - it's that Samsung have taken some unnecessary steps backwards to go forwards - removing the MicroSD wasn't necessary, and is Samsung being greedy and wanting to make the money from the extra memory themselves. Removing waterproofing is a ridiculous step backwards - what is the point of making a sealed unit (non changeable battery etc) if they end up not even taking advantage of it by having even better water proofing? The non-removable battery can be excused, if the phone lasts a long time on one charge, and if it was to add to the water proofing. But it's not.

Samsung have instead deserted their core fan base, to chase new fans.

The processor and screen is exciting though.
[Galaxy S6 General] pvc_:
You think they couldn't use the same battery that's in S5? Of course they could, but then what would they do next year with S7??
[Galaxy S6 General] abbaskip:
This phone is thinner, so possibly not.
[Galaxy S6 General] verks:
Ok, has anyone seen if there is a notification light on it. Im primarily interested in the edge and in all the videos I have watched I have not seen one. This is always a hot button for some and I enjoy having a light and always customize it. Is it there?
[Galaxy S6 General] chefdementia:
I'm interested still, though was hoping for the water resistance. Also concerned about the glass back, I don't really know how well those hold up. But the edge does have my eye ATM.
[Galaxy S6 General] se1000:
I'm not really big on Samsung phones, told myself I probably wouldn't buy another one after my S4. I didn't hate it, it had some redeeming qualities, but I didn't love it either. Oh, and generally, I prefer IPS over AMOLED screens. I've had TONS of phones over the past few years, and my last two daily drivers were the Z3 and Z2.

With that said, WOW, I think the S6 is going to be FANTASTIC. I think this phone is 6 months to a year ahead of anything else technology wise. IMO, we just can't compare the numbers to current spec phones. Here are my reasons:

- 14nm FinFET SOC. We've already seen that the Exynos 7420 will perform similarly to a SD810, but I think with it being on 14nm, it'll use noticeably less power. Nobody else will match it until at earliest the second half of 2015, the SD810 is on 20nm and for the first time since I can remember, an Android phone is ahead of even Apple with the A8 on 20nm as well. I'm not aware of any SOC for android slated for 14nm until 2016

- LPDDR4 - again, lower power consumption, although all of the other 2015 flagships should have this. It's nice to see they put in a generous 3GB in. I wonder if they user their ePOP technology however to pull off the 6.9mm packaging.

- UFS - I think this is going to be something that's overlooked but makes a big difference when it comes to every day usability. I also think this is part of the reason we don't see an SD card slot in the S6. Samsung really wants no room for an end user to feel like things are slow or unresponsive, and they can't ensure everyone buys a nice fast SD card, so I think the decision was to just get rid of it. I don't like it as much as you guys either, but with 64GB and 128GB versions available, it's not like they are trying to squeeze us all into 16GB phones. Sounds like there could be some power advantages here too.

- Second gen QHD AMOLED. If this screen is anything like the screen on the Note 4, it'll be a great one.

Seriously guys, how many of us complained about losing CD/DVD drives in ultrabooks, or even ethernet ports in a lot of them. Apple has never had SD cards and neither have Nexus devices. Moto X 2014 didn't have it either, and all three of these start at 16GB internal storage with an upgrade to the S6's standard 32GB.

Removable battery? Again, this isn't 2010 when it took hours to charge to full. QC2.0 + wireless charging really changes the equation on how you will typically charge this thing. Pick up a few Qi charging discs for $20, set it down on one of those if you really hammer your battery that much. I do have a suspicion that the battery life on this thing will be far better than the 2,600 ish mah would lead us to predict, given the reasons above.

So, although I LOVE my Z3, I'm probably going to be getting an S6 in April, give me a black one please.
[Galaxy S6 General] anewday:
Anything on band support?
[Galaxy S6 General] lopri:
I understand and sympathize with the micro-SD argument, but I do not understand the water-proof/water-resistant S6 argument. You not only will have to have those unseemly flaps that are prone to be damaged, but you also lose speaker sound quality.

Oh, do you know that there are people who complain how Samsung did not "redesign from the ground up" to have front-facing stereo speakers?

Doth protest too much, indeed.
[Galaxy S6 General] tft:
that isn't true.

have you heard the sound from the Z3? it has dual front facing speakers and sounds amazing and almost comparable to HTC boom sound. samsung probably didn't go with waterproofing to save money on building the device. it's obvious a device that is water resistant requires more thought to build and money. same for speakers. there is plenty of room for speaker at the top and bottom bezel of the phone yet they choose to put it on the bottom frame facing down. again, probably to save money from adding and time implementing dual speakers.
[Galaxy S6 General] Beefheart:
Even setting aside the cynical exclusion of the S5's waterproof features and Knox, Samsung are effectively removing themselves from my radar. If their long term business strategy is to basically drop Snapdragon and use in house Exynos in all future devices that equals bye bye Samsung for me once I move on from my Note 3.
[Galaxy S6 General] Sarmo94:
I saw some people mention that there may be a higher clock on the Edge variant to necessitate the features of the edges. 2.1 GHz on normal vs. 2.5 GHz on edge was what I saw, anyone know if these claims have merit?
[Galaxy S6 General] dandroid13:
What's so bad about the Exynos?
[Galaxy S6 General] tft:
probably too fast for him.

it blew the qualcomm out of the water in just about every test http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/1987431?baseline=2007685
[Galaxy S6 General] lopri:
Heh.. How do you think I know about water-proofing and its deleterious effects on speaker quality? Take a guess..

Are you saying Samsung's motive in not-adopting water-proofing is cost-saving? Really?

And why do you ignore flaps? Do you like them?

P.S. As an aside, I am shocked to learn that S6/Edge are lighter than the S5. I was so sure that they would be heavier than the S5 because of the glass backs. Another point for them.
[Galaxy S6 General] Beefheart:
Grow up.

As for Exynos, my main issue is the inability to have a non-TW ROM that is approaching stable. Anyone who buys one of these are stuck with Touchwiz for the duration. If they're fine with that then they don't have a problem. But if they're like me and enjoy variety then they're s**t out of luck.
[Galaxy S6 General] dandroid13:
Spend a lot of money on hardware to run buggy, feature-less software, real smart. You didn't even try the new TW and want to replace it, lol.

Enviado do meu Galaxy S5
[Galaxy S6 General] Beefheart:
What, Samsung are finally releasing a version of Touchwiz that's non-bloat and doesn't contain 156 new features which no one will ever use? Great!

On a serious note, I spend most of my time on TW, especially on my Note 3 given that Samsung deliberately make the Spen features closed source. But you're missing the point. If I want to use a different version of Android on my phone I should be able to. It's easy on a Snapdragon device because Qualcomm make all their architecture open source to the community, something Samsung decide not to do. And they're perfectly entitled to do that, despite their previous promises to the contrary. And for most people they won't care, and that will include virtually everyone in this thread I suspect. But I do care as I like trying new ROMs and have been doing so for years, and not necessarily TW. Also, Knox hasn't helped either, forcing that on the non-business public was a big mistake by Samsung.
[Galaxy S6 General] lopri:
More S6/Edge Geekbench scores, presumably from MWC.

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/search?q=universal7420

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/search?q=SM-G925F
[Galaxy S6 General] dandroid13:
You should learn to use the reply button. [emoji14]

As far as I know there's no rule that says that they should open source their SoC drivers or software features, the kernel is open source because that's the way it works. The S series is mostly aimed at average consumers and not developers, I wouldn't care about a few kids with no social life complaining on Twitter about drivers too lol.

I don't see any problems with Knox, my GS5 is rooted since day one, zero issues other than needing to mod secure storage to use knox related apps. But if you mind modding you should be safe to find a fix.

Enviado do meu Galaxy S5
[Galaxy S6 General] se1000:
If this was billed as a "developer edition" or something similar, but it isn't, so I disagree. Samsung makes no promises to support anything other than it's own software. Whether you choose to try something else is totally up to you. I do agree that manufacturers could and should open their devices up and let people tinker, I also believe they are trying to run a business, and that's just not a priority for them.

I personally feel like the need to ROM is a lot less these days. Throw the launcher of your choice on top of the latest OS's and most of what people hate is addressed. I've been there, done that and ROM's are generally just not very polished and come with their own set of headaches. What I really do like are tools like xposed that offer customizability without a completely new ROM.

I also don't like Knox but totally understand why they did it. At least they don't seem to be enforcing any kind of warranty denial because Knox counters are tripped. If they are I haven't seen them. Again, this really is important for them to capture the enterprise market, all of those blackberries being retired means a lot of new devices need to replace them. Companies like big banks and other fortune 500 companies place a very high importance on security and I bet Knox goes a long way to differentiate the Galaxy series over other Android products.

Here, I'll split the difference with you and say they should definitely release an unlocked, dev edition phone without a knox bootloader. Bonus if it also has a AOSP based vanilla ROM but I think that'd be too much to ask, not only for Samsung but I bet Google would crap an egg.
[Galaxy S6 General] TEKHD:
This is my worst fear too... No SD and no removable battery on the Note 5 is a deal breaker for me. I have been a loyal Note series customer since the first one came out. And you are correct, the Note always comes at the end of the year (6-8 months after the S brother) and it is always basically an improved S series phone plus the S Pen. But this time around... If the S6 is a hint of things to come (as it always is) then we Note users are also ####ed. Damn, (I really hope I'm wrong) But I fear the S5, Note 4 & Note Edge are the last "good" phones made by Samsung.

I think this was mentioned before, and it is 100% true... If I pay the extra bucks and actually buy the 128GB version I will stay with 128GB forever and ever. My current Note 4/Edge has 32GB + 128GB SD... (yes, I do use it, and even 128GB is not enough!) So, no matter how you put it, it is obviously a huge step backward in this department. Not to mention the retard idea of integrating the battery. This is the exact reason why I hate tablets. A phone with integrated battery = a disposable phone, in my opinion. Same as buying a disposable camera without the possibility of swapping rolls. I would never pay $800+ for a disposable phone. It's just plain stupid. At least the tablets should last longer since we don't use them as much as a phone. (so the integration of the battery on a tablet has more logic) but on a phone???... No way.
[Galaxy S6 General] Beefheart:
As I said in my previous post, I'm well aware Samsung have zero obligation to provide any documentation or drivers for their hardware.

I agree with this, and to go back to my earlier point, I find myself spending more and more time on TW, although in my Note 3's case, mainly due to the fact I can't live without the Spen functionality. But I don't see why the option of AOSP, AOKP and CM should be removed from the equation completely. I also don't see why pointing this out and explaining why I won't be sticking with Samsung should result in childish and petty insults (this isn't directed at you BTW).

Knox has it's place, and that place is in the business environment. It has no place whatsoever for the general consumer, so why didn't Samsung make it an option if required and wanted? Why does every Samsung phone now come with it regardless of what environment it's used in? And I agree that, for the most part, a tripped Knox flag doesn't result in warranty issues, I myself had a system board replaced in warranty on my old I9505 with Knox tripped. But I have read reliable reports of people having the opposite experience.
[Galaxy S6 General] heahmad:
does the galaxy s6 has a led light notification
[Galaxy S6 General] CLARiiON:
The CPU and GPU performance is very good! Everyone already knew Geekbench numbers, no point repeating that. Now look at GFXbench results.

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[Galaxy S6 General] mortuus82:
So dissapointed with this phone, to me its like an iphone now but with samsung name, it has no ip protection, built in battery, no memory card slot and top of that they use a damn glas glossy back cover which looks hideos, smallest scratch and fingerprints will shine like crazy.. i dont see any reason why i should dump my s5 to this piece of crap, so only sony will have phones with IP class protection samsung really have lost it really bad move...
[Galaxy S6 General] da.trute:
I think this will push more people toward the iphone, more then the S4 a& S5 did as it further degrades the differences in features and hardware which then just leaves the apps - apple app store wins hands down for me as a musician. I cant stand itunes but this is the first time i have ever really considered moving to apple after owning S1, s2, s3 & S5 - bye bye Samsung. I will miss the amoled but there have been suggestions that the 6S will get an amoled screen or maybe the 7, that really will be the end of Samsung.
[Galaxy S6 General] vegetaleb:
You will definitely need a 64GB version because of lack of sdcard, meaning the price at launch will be in the 1000$ for the Edge.

Better wait 3-4 months so it will drop to 600$
[Galaxy S6 General] JasonJoel:
Speak for yourself. Lots of people manage just fine w/32GB + cloud. Myself included.

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You sir, get the award for most wrong comment of the day.

Waah, they made my phone more secure. Bastards!
[Galaxy S6 General] Beefheart:
Well, I can't really argue against such a brilliantly thought out and eloquently stated counter-argument.

Sir, I doth my cap.
[Galaxy S6 General] mgbotoe:
You forget 32 gb is NOT what you will end up with right? You do realize samsung software usually occupy 8-10gb of that 32 yes? lol

You realize that would not suffice the music junkies out there? Movie junkies? You also realize with chromecast, many now put movies on their phone yes?

Have you also forgotten all those flasholics in this wonderful place we call xda? TW NOT compress is about 4+gb?

So let look at the math...32-8= 24....24-4= 20....those who loves to download games on their phone (I mean SERIOUS gamers) where one download is about 1gb+ ...after all that data is chunk on your phone, we are looking at 2gb+ for ONE game.

Now let go on to the photo junkies out there....I am in no way or shape a photo junkie but MY photos take 8gb of space on my Note...and yes, I got countless more on my computer so dont tell me to save it there. Sometimes, I just can't be bothered to go on the CLOUD and DOWNLOAD gb WORTH of data...oh ya, did I mention, 1gb data can diminish in the bleak of an eye?

God forbit you are a music junkie, photo junki, movie junki and a gamer oh oh oh and love to backup and flash!....no sir, 32 gb is NOT enough.

For you perhaps, but please do not be selfish in your thinking? o.o
[Galaxy S6 General] dandroid13:
It isn't 10gb lol but yeah, I'll miss my 64gb sdcard.

Enviado do meu Galaxy S5
[Galaxy S6 General] gomez.pl:
big step backward at all :/

after S5 everyone -including me - was thinking that S6 will have everything that have s5 plus addiction features like metal body, and some small "fixes" but nothing like that happend...

Now I feel like iphone user, becouse I need to buy minimum 64gb s6 and pray that it should be enough :P
[Galaxy S6 General] tyvar1:
This is so true! Will be my upgrade from Note 3 :D
[Galaxy S6 General] Lympe:
The problem is that most people (including me) like to flash different roms (even stock ones) all the time, which means lots of factory resets!

Doing a factory reset without external storage will be a major pain. Now I have my music - pics, even from my galaxy s3 - pdf's, on my 64gb card. I can't erase my phone 1000 times per day and I can try different setups easily without worrying about deleting anything crucial.

I guess we'll see many threads like "omfg I deleted my pictures how can I get them back"
[Galaxy S6 General] novi.sad:
There's no way I'll give that much cash for the phone. Frankly, I'm disappointed no sd card, no removeable battery. I think I'll turn to Xperia family...