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[Galaxy S6 General] :
Please learn to quote.

You're that kind of person that want everything running and syncing in the background and expecting 2-3 days of usage, with high SOT.

Today I used my phone the way you would describe "non-economic". I had full brightness + GPS and Google Maps running around 2 hours. 51% left and still beating your SOT. Face that you use your phone wrong if you want better battery life. Even Xperia Z3 (my old phone) can't do that stock. Running Facebook, Messenger, Snapchat, Instagram, Twitter and Spotify + other rogue apps with every feature on and full brightness and still get incredible battery life.

This phone is no where near the best battery on the market and I never said that. I said the battery is way above average and fine if you use it "right". I don't need the Facebook app, I use Tinfoil. Works flawlessly. Neither do I use Messenger as Opera Mini notices me about Facebook messages. Also if you don't need to get notify of every email you get, get Tasker and synker and set it to sync every x hour. When you say I use my phone the economic way by not using full brightness you should read more carefully again. I said, auto brightness is **** on this phone and way to bright. At time the screen almost blind me in low-light conditions. Again I use tasker to disable bluetooth and Wifi when no reconnect after 5 minutes and they enable themselves when needed (most of the time).

Bluetooth enables in the morning waiting for Smartwatch. If no connection, disable and re-enable when in car-dock and disable when leaving.

Wifi disconnects again after 5 minutes of no reconnect and enable itself when arriving to school, work or home my checking the cell towers around.

You can define that economic, but even if my phone could hold a week of charge, I would still do that as I love to play with Tasker.

Today brightness was at full, cause well sunshine and I was out driving, still 3 hours of SOT with 51% left. So well, would equal around 5-7 SoT (depends if I get inside ((lower brightness) or stay outside rest of the day).

Something is definitely draining your battery and if you don't even want to find out, you should get an Iphone. They just work out of the packed. But well, many members on here love to play with their Android phone. The great thing about Android, is that if the battery is ****, you can (almost) always do something to increase. If it's **** on Iphone you're doomed.

TL;DR - Get an Iphone.
[Galaxy S6 General] BoneXDA:
The standby drain is very low on LTE networks with the G925F and reception and call quality is top notch so I wouldn't read too much into this, and I don't think any specific region model would improve battery life with a different modem. BTW, I'm on my best cycle so far, more to come later!
[Galaxy S6 General] yaddam205:
Looks like Snapdragon 810 is the culprit here. Lower res and looks to perform worse than the GS6. I think 14nm 7420 in the is the biggest reason it outperforms it based on early results.
[Galaxy S6 General] tokuzumi:
I saw a report on PhoneArena about a software update on the M9, which reduces the temperature of the phone 10 degrees during heavy load. I would imagine this would have somewhat of a positive effect on battery life. I wonder if the test above was using that updated software?
[Galaxy S6 General] rkial:
Any idea how the battery on the S6 would hold up over 2 years?
[Galaxy S6 General] tokuzumi:
This is going to be case by case, much like any other phone. Phones that are constantly drained completely (battery at 0%) are not going to last as long as phones that were charged regularly, and not allowed to reach 0%. It's going to be similar to how 2 year old iPhones are holding up.
[Galaxy S6 General] BoneXDA:
All right, an S6 edge battery stat, admittedly on lighter use, some short gameplay and photography, much browing and checking the usual suspects (weather, transit, email etc.), GPS high accuracy on, mostly on WiFi while connected to 4G network. Some app installing and themeing, an hour of calling and some chat.

Definitely an improvement, although if you add more gaming, more time under the sun and some music streaming, I'd say the SoT would be an hour or so worse. Please note that I'm on March 1 SW.
[Galaxy S6 General] omersak:
The people who did a 40 minute video on the S6 edge did a new one for the S6:

[YOUTUBE]tcUaDgGvprE[/YOUTUBE]

Interestingly, they say that the S6 Edge 'clearly' has better battery life - they got 10 hours 47 minutes in their video loop test on the Edge and 9 hours 17 minutes on the S6 (S5 got 11 hours on the same test).

I think it's something on the software or kernel side of things.
[Galaxy S6 General] msavic6:
Thanks for the update! I look forward to your review on the camera!

Since your Edge is only on the March 1 firmware, I'm sure Samsung will push an update or 2 in time for release which will improve things quite a bit. Even as is, the battery life is fairly decent.
[Galaxy S6 General] omersak:
I'd be over the moon if I could consistently get this level of battery from the S6. Very good news, indeed.

Which theme is that? looks very pretty.
[Galaxy S6 General] CLARiiON:
That definitely looks 'decent', not exceptional but manageable. The theme looks very clean. What theme is that?

And I think they will upgrade the FW near to release date. Give us more update once you get any firmware update.
[Galaxy S6 General] justamelvin:
i agree. and to think an update could possible increase battery life a bit more...i would be very satisfied with this battery performance.

also, i agree that the theme is very cool.
[Galaxy S6 General] FSOP:
That sort of battery life isn't too bad, if you take into account the small size of it, along with the CPU and screen it's powering, it'll last most people a full day.

I'm one of those people who hate letting the battery % get past about 30 though, not sure why so if I was getting home after a day at work with it at this everyday, it'd bother me, but that might just be me.....
[Galaxy S6 General] Japultra:
I'm not sure if you've already stated this, but could you please let us know what brightness % you have the screen set to?
[Galaxy S6 General] BoneXDA:
That totally depends on the location. I was mostly indoors, so around the middle mark. All in all, on this SW version the edge does about 90% of what the S5 can, which is acceptable, but not satisfactory.
[Galaxy S6 General] FSOP:
Would it be sensible to expect the S6 would see slightly better battery life, not having the extra curved part of the screen to power? I know the difference is probably minute, if noticeable at all....
[Galaxy S6 General] Japultra:
The screens are the same size regardless....
[Galaxy S6 General] equake:
It seems that Battery life is on par with the S5 will optimizations it might be able to outdo it with final S/W and H/W. Although not great, its a feat since the screen is QHD and the CPU is significantly more powerful. With built-in Wireless charging and fast charging the wall hug effect should be minimized.

I use an S4 and have no problems with battery life now but I'm a fairly light user i.e. no gaming, long videos, camera photos. Mostly web browsing which seems to be most hungry for display since web pages are bright backgrounds.

If the browser was color-inverted, AMOLED fones would probably last forever but thats what the ultra-power save mode enables I guess.

my 2 cents
[Galaxy S6 General] meboy:
I went from the S4 to an S5 and the battery life was a Big step up.

Those with the S4 thinking the S5 isn't that much better and therefore the S6 if nearly equal, is not nearly good enough, would be very incorrect and happily surprised.

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You can use the dark mode plugin in "go browser".

Doesn't remove all colour like power save. Just gets rid of the white.
[Galaxy S6 General] aami.aami:
battery is actually 2550mAh... :D
[Galaxy S6 General] tft:
doesn't seem all that impressive when i can get over 5 hours screen time with my S4....
[Galaxy S6 General] :
Yes it adds additional drain, as the mic is always listening to the key-word. Try it out and see if it's too much for your taste.

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Yes you do, you just don't where to look. Of course it don't drain a whole lot but if you turn it off for a week or so you can see the difference. The percentage you see out from the Google App is just how much THAT app have drained and that's not a lot, however the reason Google Now drains your battery is cause the mic is always active listening to the key-word and since the mic and Google Now is now is not the same thing, it doesn't go under Google Now as battery consumption.
[Galaxy S6 General] ¿Will-it-Blend?:
Why are you trying to disprove me? I get very minimal battery drain from the OK google voice commands.I get like 1-2% battery drain over 8 hours with in on. Don't think I'll get much better with it off. I don't use Google now however.
[Galaxy S6 General] :
No need to disprove anything. It's a fact, that a mic that is always on, is draining battery. I never said the drain would be much, but it's definitely there and it's a known fact.

Also I said when you're NOT using the Google Now, it will not show up on the battery stats under the Google app, but something else (if anything at all) as it's the MIC that is "draining" the battery and not the use of the Google App itself. Only when you say Ok Google or open the app and start using it, it begins to "drain" your battery. When not using it, the mic is just on.

Of course you would not double your battery life disabling it or anywhere near that, but as said, it's a known (and pretty logical) fact that a mic that is always on is draining more battery than a mic that is off.

But does it really matter? You won't double your battery life by disabling it, so if you like it or need it enable it. He asked if it would drain your battery more and by how much. The answer to that is, yes it would drain your battery more, but not a lot. I just know that the mic being on does not count under the battery drain from the Google App.
[Galaxy S6 General] ¿Will-it-Blend?:
Okay, but from your original post you made it seem that the drain was a lot, so I just wanted to clarify. Google Now will kill you though, I agree.
[Galaxy S6 General] Inelukis:
Hi mates! I'd like to debloat my system by disabling a lot of useless apps installed on my S6. I've rooted it but i don't know how to do that. I've tried by using Debloater but my device does not support "Block Mode"..
[Galaxy S6 General] dehnhaide:
The quickest and painless is Package Disabler from Play Store. No root needed and the process is absolutely straightforward. [emoji1]
[Galaxy S6 General] Antonio_Mazzei:
Another way? ?

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[Galaxy S6 General] godutch:
[MENTION=6037486]Faspaiso[/MENTION]

Something most people don't realize is that putting a stop to the big drainers will yield little extra standby time, whereas trying to stop the little drains could yield massive gains: 5%/h -> 1%/h saving 4%/h will yield 80h extra standby but just saving 0.9%/h when you have 1%/h drain will yield a massive 900h extra standby!
[Galaxy S6 General] :
I kind of get where you're going.
[Galaxy S6 General] godutch:
It's probably the reason people were so disappointed in project volta, google probably made big savings but they didn't translate in real extra standby/usage time and also the reason why you have such great battery life; you went in full and went after each little drain
[Galaxy S6 General] ¿Will-it-Blend?:
I'm already at 30 hours with 41% left. I think i'm just fine with OK Google on. Turning off the little things does not yield that much in battery saving. You need to address the big battery drainers.
[Galaxy S6 General] godutch:
google services is not always a drain by itself, it is used by other apps, most likely google now. But you have pretty okay battery life already and a smartphone should be a smartphone,not an expensive large dumbphone
[Galaxy S6 General] ¿Will-it-Blend?:
I think you can tell from my status bar that I pretty much leave everything on.
[Galaxy S6 General] andreip90:
I think it's better to stop flaming here.. I didn't say I expect 3 days of usage. Better read carefully because I don't think that my english is that bad as you never understand what I want to say. I didn't say either that the iPhone it's better. Iphone just has a better software which doesn't require so many tricks to unlock a better battery life. Anyway , the last update improves battery life (BOG8) to 4h sot with 1 day usage which I think it's very good.
[Galaxy S6 General] :
Well sure Iphone software is "better" in the way that nothing runs in the background, so great standby time and you can't do much wrong, it just works out of the box.

The thing is you can get Android to get good battery life too (at least increase it) if you choose to root, you can almost control anything.

Yes 4 SoT is great, just saying that you can do a lot to get 5 hours SOT with battery hungry apps that I think that you use. But well, 1 hour SOT might not be a deal breaker. For most people the phone still last to the end of the day which is the most important thing.

But yes, I agree that Samsung slapped power users in the face. They should have made the phone a bit thicker at at least have put a 2800 battery in place and well for me they could have gone with a 3200+ too.

But by judging the battery size of this phone (and you root it, cause stock rom is battery hungry and make a few changes too) the software does incredible well. 5-7 hours (for my usage at least) on mobile data and around 8 on Wifi (a lot of pics of people getting this, so well not only me) is very very good for a 2600 battery. But I hope they put a way bigger battery in the next phone + optimized software (with Android M coming + better software optimization + rooted with Xposed) I think we might begin to see 10 hours SOT soon on 3000-3500 mah batteries as soon standard on new flagships.

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That is pretty damn good. What is your SOT if I may ask? Even if it's low, the standby time is great. Are you rooted, stock rom? Greenify, disable service etc?
[Galaxy S6 General] ¿Will-it-Blend?:
I'm at 2hr 50 min. I plan on posting again before I plug in tonight. I'm completely stock, unrooted. NFC, bluetooth, GPS all on. Syncing through inbox, SoundCloud, evernote, and some other google apps. Also have my outlook account syncing through the stock email app. I've been streaming music through Google Play for most of the day today. No greenify or any other battery management apps.
[Galaxy S6 General] Apoxx:
Since samsung so retardedly removed the option to auto-stop background apps again with the latest update, my batterydrain has skyrocketed.

Now I have to resort to the old way of actually uninstalling apps that drain too much battery again. What a backwards company samsung is at times.
[Galaxy S6 General] googchrome:
Thanks to everyone for taking time to look into these issues.
[Galaxy S6 General] mgfjd:
How is Samsung fault when the app developer has developed an app without the proper battery optimization?
[Galaxy S6 General] :
Can you explain further? Not fully understanding what you're meaning.
[Galaxy S6 General] Kanosha:
Google would be more at fault than the developer. They should be taking control of optimising battery life rather than trying to leave it to the developers. All it takes is one non-optimised app installed and your battery can go to ****. Google can optimise it on the os level so regardless of how poorly an app is not optimised the battery life won't run away.

Hopefully doze mode will help but until I actually see it in person I won't believe it. *cough* lollipop battery optimisation *cough*
[Galaxy S6 General] theronlas:
How, if you provide the ability for an app to wake the phone then this is possible (phones doing it when they shouldn't). If you don't then functionality is reduced.

Some apps genuinely need to be battery hogs, how is Android supposed to tell them from something badly coded?
[Galaxy S6 General] Kanosha:
Sad to say it but be more restrictive like Apple does. Don't let apps do what they want when they want. I see a lot of apps doing really stupid things like running services in the background for no reason and long after the app has closed.
[Galaxy S6 General] mgfjd:
Uninstall the app and email the developer. 98% of the apps that are essential for my phone usage, dont have any problems.
[Galaxy S6 General] Bonvaz:
Hi guys! Just got my new s6 three days ago...great phone! I haven't root, so I start to disable all Samsung **** apps..then I installed greenify pro,I use the widget to hibernate the apps but every time the apps open again..I also don't know which app system I can disable..can you riassume me what I have to do to get the best battery life?also Samsung app push service I don't understand why is in my battery stats,I disabled all synch of samsung account except the keyboard...

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[Galaxy S6 General] godutch:
Absolutely not but Android has made some really stupis decisions since kitkat which made getting control on battery almost a nightmare, there should be no reason battery statistics should be reserved for root, we should be able to see what keeps are phone awake AND we should get control over what is allowed to wake up our phone. Most apps we do not need running in the background at all, so we should be able to hibernate them
[Galaxy S6 General] richyb86:
Does anyone have a link or the name for this app I keep hearing about for non root users to disable bloatware?
[Galaxy S6 General] pnr2020:
Package Disabler get it from Google play
[Galaxy S6 General] cavags5:
The app doesn't exist anymore.

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[Galaxy S6 General] d3l1:
For me its still there. (Germany)

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[Galaxy S6 General] pnr2020:
It's still in Google play
[Galaxy S6 General] pnr2020:
Sorry wrong picture in previous post
[Galaxy S6 General] pnr2020:
It's been removed from Google play here is link to official site http://www.ospolice.com/package-disabler/
[Galaxy S6 General] richyb86:
Thanks everyone
[Galaxy S6 General] profesy:
http://apk-paradise.com/package-disabler-pro-v2-8/
[Galaxy S6 General] Apoxx:
No app. In the first release of 5.1.1 you could auto stop apps from the battery menu, and for once I got great batterylife. Then another update came and they removed it again, without a single good reason for doing so.

And yes I blame samsung, cause this is something stock android has.
[Galaxy S6 General] Kanosha:
So rather than get Google to be more restrictive or to take more control then what do you propose should happen?

You would rather leave it to the developers or users? As I said above the majority of developers will not / can't (due to time, finance or whatever) be able to optimise their app and even then it will just take one app to spoil it. As for leaving it to the users that is even worse. For power users like you or me on this forum who like to tinker that's fine but the vast majority of users out there have no clue or time to tinker with their phones. They just want to use it.
[Galaxy S6 General] gaston_garcia:
Everyone mentions SOT a lot. I've been checking for a few days and I never get more than 2:30 hours. The day I got the most was 3:20 min.

But honestly I can't complain at all. Today I started using my phone at exactly 5:45 am. It's 8:40 pm and I've just plugged it in for the first time (and I'm still at 26%).

So I'm definitely doing tons better than a few months back with my iphone 6 (which has an even worse battery than this phone has).

I always make it through the day just fine.
[Galaxy S6 General] Giocarro:
I completely agree: battery life is good and brings me at the end of the day easily.
[Galaxy S6 General] godutch:
people are not stupid, if they just gave us the wakelock statistics and greenify power we could decide for ourself, in part they will do this of course in M but they could make it more obvious and they should give users even more control
[Galaxy S6 General] Kanosha:
Not stupid but not tech savvy. I really think you need to see how normal (non xda users) use their phone. The vast majority don't change a lot of their settings or use other versions of the default apps. I see so many people using the default Android browser, messaging apps, gallery app, email app etc. even though there are many better options out there.

Also as I said a lot of people do not want to waste time tinkering. They just want to use the phone not try and squeeze every minute of SOT out of the phone that they can.
[Galaxy S6 General] godutch:
I see many non tech savvy people with task killers, android optimizers, anti virus etc etc. trying to get the most out of their phone, this wouldn't be necessary if google included the correct tools out of the box
[Galaxy S6 General] piscabarka:
You still can auto stop. They move it to ram > manage app
[Galaxy S6 General] Kanosha:
Yes but apps like antivirus scanners run in the background and people expect them to do their job without the need for user intervention unless something happens. Trying to look for wake locks, apps causing battery drains, memory leaks etc. require significantly more time and effort.

Google should offer tools for tinkerers and power users but they also need to take more control by default.

Anyway I am probably just dragging this thread off topic so I will stop there. Sorry if I am.
[Galaxy S6 General] Apoxx:
Thanks for that. +1

I really missed this. Now i can get my 5h SoT back instead of the current 2 hours.

No idea why samsung moved it. So weird.
[Galaxy S6 General] belloni:
Can you explain what you're doing please?
[Galaxy S6 General] godutch:
No it doesn't or it doesn't need to require a lot of time and effort, it's just that google has made it really hard but before kitkat finding the offending app was really easy with wakelock detector
[Galaxy S6 General] marios_ch:
2 hours screen time at 70% really good! [MENTION=4550510]5.1[/MENTION].1
[Galaxy S6 General] whatnow275:
Sorry, where is ram and manage app? I tried looking in app manager running section
[Galaxy S6 General] piscabarka:
It's in the smart manager, where u can check battery, storage & ram. Click on the ram then look into 'manage apps' tab.
[Galaxy S6 General] whatnow275:
Does the Verizon version have that? We're still stuck at 5.0.2 but ice never seen that

Edit: googled it, not for vzw :(
[Galaxy S6 General] mgfjd:
Battery all day. No problem here.

I am a business user, so for me this phone is great.
[Galaxy S6 General] tzmx:
Gotta love the Play Services drain.....
[Galaxy S6 General] Neuz:
Where do I find your guide? Thank you

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[Galaxy S6 General] Quincux:
How?
[Galaxy S6 General] misterepicwin:
Like much people said here

Disabled unused apps

Limit back round data

Lucid launcher

WiFi or 3g on

Sync just a view things

Auto brightness

Google things disabled except music services and play store

I think that's it

I have this phone now for one week and just the first charge was 6 h sot

I just read newspaper and other things and do a bit Twitter Instagram snapchat and browsing

And that is now:

Had the phone off while sleeping

Forgot to mention

Black background and black themes
[Galaxy S6 General] vphilot:
I'm in 10% per hour battery drain on IDLE. "Android OS" sucking up all of my battery. Tried everything yet but nothing works. I envy you guys!
[Galaxy S6 General] ra9b:
How are you guys disabling background data? Are you doing it from the "data usage" settings and clicking on apps and then selecting "restrict background data?"
[Galaxy S6 General] misterepicwin:
Settings

Data usage

And you can select every app there or klick more and select all apps
[Galaxy S6 General] marios_ch:
This is when using data?
[Galaxy S6 General] misterepicwin:
Right

Only on mobile data

It has no influence to WiFi