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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Park City:
They work fine for PDA Connect (ARP=ISP.CINGULAR) Not sure about Media.net (ARP=WAP.CINGULAR)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
I Like It!

Initial thoughts after loading up my main programs but still needing to do a little tweaking (like replacing the ugly dial screen):

This seems to be faster than the other WM6 roms I have tried. Much faster in some areas. Opening the windows folder in file explorer is very much faster than it used to be.

Maybe I had a problem before and just accepted it as normal, but activesync takes about 1/4th the time it used to take from plugging in until "synchronized".

Really it's still to early to tell but it seems like a solid and stable build. If it keeps going this well I may be through flashing for a while! :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] skypirate:
thanks bodypilot.. but i got the same problem in yr upload

thanks mantrius.. wait for your upload..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bodypilot:
This is odd. With the Dopod ROM I only got G when I got E before flashing and no 3g at all. Same with both 1.40 and new 1.41 radios. I kept 1.41 radio and just flashed to CUSTEL Black 2 vanilla and now Edge and 3G are back.

I am in CA USA and I wonder if the Dopod ROM does not use all the GSM/WCDMA bands needed in SoCal?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chymmylt:
You're right - activesync seems very quick! This Rom shares the worst WM6 bug - it still randomly doesn't awaken from sleep :( Wireless off from bubble is also still an issue :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chymmylt:
I didn't install the extended rom and I have both E and 3G with this rom - maybe it's something in the ExtRom?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Park City:
I havent experienced the "won't wake up from sleep" issue yet but I will double check wifi and see if that is a problem.

So far, this is has been the most stable ROM for me next to XDA 2. I will probably be sticking with it for a while (now that I say that, something will come out tomorrow night!!)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bodypilot:
Yes maybe, the extended ROM seemed to install a load of crap that took about 5 minutes. Probably better to avoid it!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Busstop:
The problem with the band showing only E only happened after i had run the Network Wizard. Strange
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bodypilot:
I ran that wizard almost right away and saw the problem from then on also.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chainbolt:
Right, incredible amount of stuff that is installed from ext.ROM, is there anyway to prevent this??? :confused: I don't need any of this Dopod stuff.

The OS is blistering fast though - clearly the best OS ROM I have used so far. Very nice.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jast82:
Just make a Soft RESET before the installation of EXTROM start.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chymmylt:
Yeah I was very sad to see it still persist. It happened about 10 minutes after I'd installed the rom. I did turn on the wifi but the phone did not have the sdcard installed if that helps at all. Lemme know if it's got anything to do with wifi!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
I failed to mention that I didn't load Ext Rom.

I haven't seen the won't wake up issue. I assume those with the won't wake up problem are doing a fresh install of their programs? Restoring a backup on top of a new rom will screw it up and can cause the won't wake issue.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chymmylt:
Glad I avoided it! :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chainbolt:
Thank you! :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chymmylt:
Freshly installed rom - no sdcard - no programs installed (and I never restore or backup - takes me 5 minutes to reset anyway and I rather know things are fresh). I also did not install the extended rom so not releated to that (unless they have a fix in the extend rom?)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mantrius:
Here's the repack.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=61CFHKAJ
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Park City:
First time I installed this ROM I included the EXT ROM too. Mistake. Hard reset and then soft reset before EXT ROM installed. Much better. Yet to see the "sleep of death" still. (My Eten m600 had the same problem and that is what I called it then) Even when I had the EXT ROM installed I didnt experience it. (doesnt mean I didnt have it....I might have just been and still am lucky) Wifi works great, no problems yet.

I dont restore from any backups; just have all the cabs I need on my SD card if I need to reinstall.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
And how often does the "won't wakeup" occur? :confused:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] c0wb0ycliche:
Cingular

I have the 8525 and I'm eager to get Windows Mobile 6 so I can stop down coverting all my Office 2007 files, but I don't want to not be able to fully use my phone (e.g. calls, texts, web etc.)

Which would I download from all the links posted here?

I guess I don't want the Extended ROM as it wouldn't have all the Cingular (ATT, whatever lol) stuff like Cellular Video and ATT Music?

Any suggestion as to which to get to have full WM6 only would be great, and an answer as to whether I'll still be able to use my phone fully...

Sorry, I'm kind of new to this. I've had Smartphones for years and just, converted so to speak to PPC lol
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
You will need to start by reading the wiki: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes

The guides: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=299462

And the threads for the available WM6 upgrades. Only you can decide which one you want to try first.

There is a real risk of bricking your phone if you don't read and follow the guides.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] c0wb0ycliche:
I read through everything, and I'm pretty tech savy.

I upgraded from the shipped version to the latest Cingular ROM that was on the download page here (2.15) and had no problems. But like I said, I'd really like to have WM6 before the estimated late July Cingular told me on the phone.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Lurch3559:
You really need to read, this is risky to do, if you haven't read the WIKI I would suggest go do it before you have a very expensive paper wieght.

Everybody on this forum is going to tell you the same thing. Read Read and more reading! There is a lot more to it than just a download and install. After you have read and you still have questions then come back and ask.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
OK, pick one and start flashing.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] trashcan:
I would suggest u first super CID your phone, then install HARD SPL 1.40, then just play with the OS upgrade only. You can brick your phone if you follow it correctly as long as you don't overwrite the SPL.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
He already knows that because he has read everything. He is just looking for someone to tell him which WM6 rom to flash but he has to make that decision for himself, which should be simple now that he has read everything.

I still haven't figured out why he asked the first question?:confused:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
Meanwhile, to get back on topic...

How often does the "won't wakeup" happen?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] lpsi2000:
I think what everyone is trying to say to you is that if you read enough you will know that each one of the ROM has their issues and only you can determine what you will be willing to leave with.

BTW I still don't think you read enough and tech savy has nothing to do with reading and learning. Nonetheless, it is your phone and money if you turn it into brick, you can only be mad at yourself.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] darkjedi:
Ugh, this has the ugly, stretched 3G icon. Anyway to fix it??? Love the ROM btw, bootup time is almost 30 seconds!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] lpsi2000:
Anyone used the toolchain on this? Also the pagepool does not seem to be in the same offset location.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] CUSTEL:
yes used the toolchain on it...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
I saw the fix posted earlier in this thread.

Ahh see post #50
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] philg2000:
I'll lay odds that these issues will be sorted in the actual ROM by JJ in Black 2.5, so could potentially save a bit of space ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] arnoutboer:
Yes. Works well without any issue on Black 2.0.

I heard in the forums that 2.1.2.31 works well.. I am running 2.1.2.54

To both should be links in the forums.

Vodafone Germany has some of the software online.

Black 2.0 is edited specially for BBC and Goodlink to work.

Ciao,

Arnie
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chymmylt:
I've had it happen twice since installing this rom. It doesn't seem to happen any more then any other WM6 rom however. Actually, there's only ever been 1 WM6 I've installed that I haven't had this issue with and that was the LSVW rom that was causing all those white screens (I think it was 3/24 or 3/25 - it was the first one). That rom worked beautiful - no issues with wakeup at all. I haven't reinstalled in fear of White Screen issues but one of these days I'm currious to try it again. I have noticed that this generally happens when the phone goes to sleep via timeout. If I push the power button to put it to sleep it seems to almost always wake up.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] darkjedi:
I guess I'm doing it wrong or something, but the crappy 3G icon is still there after reboot. Could someone make a .reg file? Thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
That is strange. You are the only one I have heard of that consistently has the problem, and with a clean flash! I'm going to let mine time out a few times and see if I can duplicate your problem.

As a side note, The "white screen" rom was re-released without the problem, and also I read that as long as you are using 1.40 oli even the first version of that rom won't cause the white screen.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] c0wb0ycliche:
So I've got WM6 running and I didn't install the extended ROM and SMS, phone and wifi are working fine, but I can't find the settings for sending/recieving MMS... could someone point me in the right direction?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Lurch3559:
Check this site for your settings, large thread but I am sure you will find what you are looking for. You said that you read everything, In the Wiki it does say to copy all of these settings before flashing.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=299023

Try to search via google to find your answers, pretty much every question that you can think of has already been answered, you just have to look.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] naufil:
how to install these files

i ve downloaded both rom and ext rom (nb files) but how will i use it to execute. i dont have any executeable file to actually run them. HELP me..

there is no ruu upgrade utility that comes with these files.. please advise..

peace..

naufil
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] c0wb0ycliche:
Yeah I remembered I should have copied the settings after I had started flashing.

Thanks for the link though, I was searching and didn't find anything for the MMS settings and figured there was a thread here that I just wasn't finding.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
I suppose the best way to do it would be to read. Earlier in this thread I posted links to the wiki and the installation guides. Please read them.

Your other choice is to copy the files to a CD, place the cd on top of your phone and hit it real hard with a large hammer. This forced loading will give the same result that you will get if you start flashing without knowing what you are doing.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] pello:
What about the Wifi-Bubble-Bug? Is it fixed in this rom?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
Well, I just let my phone time out several times in every configuration I could think of (flight mode, bT +phone, wifi +bt+phone, bt+wifi, etc.) and was unable to duplicate the "won't wakeup" issue. Sorry. If you want me to try anything in particular (except hitting my phone with a hammer :) ) to help solve your issue just ask.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] naufil:
:) well ok.. i did read them.. and well ok .. i got this ruu updater but now i ve placed those nb files in the same folder of ruu updater but now it says can open the file, do i have to generate NBH files from NB ? OR WHAT..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
Not sure about this bug but if you tell me what to look for I'll be happy to tell you what I see :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] CUSTEL:
yes.......
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] lpsi2000:
Wow, are you sure you want do this right now...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] pello:
There is no "Turn off Wifi" in the Bubble. You have to turn off wifi by using the comm manager. All cooked Wm6 roms have the same bug. there is a fix here anywhere, but it won't work well...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
Ah that. I have gotten so used to using comm manager I had forgotten how easy it used to be. And, the bad news is that there still is no "turn off wifi" in the bubble.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chainbolt:
I am just realizing that my MircoSD Card disappeared with this ROM. Had never happened before. :eek: Anybody knows how to fix this?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] drooch:
from using the ROM for a few hours, this is what i have concluded

- From Dopod Australia (installs 3 AUS certificates)

- Quick Boot Up

- EDGE icon is always shown, never 3G?? even when i select WCDMA only, the icon never changes (can some one help???)

other than that, this shouls suffice until WMXL .3 or the new Black ROM

Drooch
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] moisha:
The "sleep of death" and mSD disappearing "come" usually together.

The sticky http://xdaforums.com...thread.php?t=294324

discuss this for the past couple of month, but in 2 words -

do the following reg. hack (numbers are in DECIMAL! hex equiv. is 0x2004):

[HKLM\System\StorageManager] "PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:8196

[HKLM\System\StorageManager] "PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:8196

Someone also mentioned that changing registry in RAM need to be done after each SR for this to work, as even though the values are there - they are not being read in upon SR, so it's best to have them "pre-cooked" as in WMXL .30 ( but dec and hex were accidentally swapped around :-) and in Black 2.0

So anyone looked at what is the "official" pagepool value yet ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] moisha:
Or LVSW :-)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] c0wb0ycliche:
So far I've had no problems. I installed TenGO Thumb and it runs fine, and everything else I've been doing has been normal...

Is it me or is it slower than WM5? When I check the memory it usually says between 18-24 free, is that what it was before? It just seems slightly slower.

And this is more of an annoyance than a problem, but does someone know how to delete the Dopod Black option from the Today control panel?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] The_Hawk:
Been back and forth to WM5 and WM6 I don't know how many times today with my Dopod 838 Pro. Just saw this so thought I may as well give this a bash too.

Everything seems to work fine, although I'm still to get my MSS settings quite right. But that will be confirmed when I get to talk to Optus Aus tomorrow.

The only real issue I am having is A2DP and severe video lag/dropped frames. Is there any solution for this or is the CPU just not quit enough to keep up?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jasjamming:
OK Guys,

Pre-OEM means that this is straight from the billionnaires themselves, it hasnt been modded in anyway by any operators/oems.

the ROM I will release is the same build with no carrier custimzations etc from DOPOD and No EXTROM and fully working.

You may also notice on my signature i am running the 17742 build, but at this time I cannot release it due to some unfortunate circumstances that have taken place.

Give me a couple days to get everything sorted and Black 2.5 will be released.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Malik05:
that sounds fantastic...surely you will add in your tweaks and good stuff to the black 2.5 release...loooking forward to it...thnx
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
Sorry mods, I tried to restrain myself...feel free to delete.

Dude, a little while ago you had read everything and you were tech savy and now...oh never mind I'll get a beer instead of venting here.

What the heck, I'll even give you a hint, do you see that big DELETE button? Bet you can't guess what that's for.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] walshieau:
To All....

on the extROM dopod are replacing the rilgsm.dll with an older one from WM5 AKU2.3

not sure of the differences yet but will investigate...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
I didn't even look at the ext rom, just loaded up the cabs I knew I would need and this is running pretty smooth, I'll keep it loaded until jasjamming presents us with the "better" release.

Did I miss anything important by ignoring the ext rom on this one?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] walshieau:
not really... i did notice it has HSDPA Issues though... i wouldnt establish a valid HSDPA connection... only edge...

will keep looking...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] c0wb0ycliche:
I don't get why people have to act like little *****es.

If you click "Delete" it doesn't delete. It says you can't.

If you go into the Windows directory, and find the DopodBlack.tsk, and try to delete it, it won't let you. I tried from multiple file explorers, on both my PC and the PPC itself, and I tried renaming it etc. and it won't delete.

It's really not a stupid question, so I don't know why the stupid response. This really seemed like a great community but so far people have been arrogant and snide.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] aublumberg:
yes same here ... tried re-installing and HTCtweak HSDPA enable etc. but nothing worked ... only getting 330 kbps speeds
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] walshieau:
i think the issue is where the rilgsm dll is being replaced... but im not 100% sure yet...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
How much information did you provide when you asked the question? Do we know what WM6 version you are running? Do we know what programs you are running that may contribute to your problem? Do we know what you have already tried to fix the problem yourself?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
Same here after your post made me take a look at it. Hope you can figure it out. As I said I didn't load ext rom but if you need me to try anything just ask.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] walshieau:
so you didnt flash the extROM? just the OS? can you double check for me please... can you post the size and date modified of your rilgsm.dll file on your PDA please...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
On mine it seems way faster than any WM5 offering. Currently showing 24.5 mb free with all of my must have software installed. Main areas I notice big speed increases are during active sync and when opening the windows folder from file explorer. It seems that I see a lot less of the pinwheel when opening most programs.

As for Dopod Black I highlighted Dopod Black and hit delete and that took care of it. I did look at it first and called it ugly.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JasenR:
323.31KB

Dated 4/17/07 6:03pm
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] senergy:
my rilgsm.dll is the same and I'm using Black 2.0,

323.31KB

Dated 4/17/07 6:03pm

Do you think the speed issue is related to the radio rather then OS?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] aublumberg:
My steps were:

(1) flash this Dopod ROM with Extended ROM (since I've got a Dopod anyway)

(2) flash Black 2.0 (which doesn't have Extended ROM)

(3) flash again this Dopod ROM without Extended ROM (and soft sync before auto-exec extended ROM files)

rilgsm.dll is 331,068 bytes dated 17 April 2007 17:03:38
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] aquanaut88:
I've got the same rilgsm as JasenR. After applying the HTCTweak 2.0 Enable HSDPA tweak I get the "H" icon and HSDPA download speed.

I used the MTTY method to upgrade both ExtROM and OS. Afterwards, I removed all contents of the ExtROM, then hard-reset. Following the hard-reset, I allowed the customizations to run (only those in the Windows directory, not in ExtROM).

The Black 1.2 3G icon patch does not work on this ROM.

Allowing all of the ExtROM routines to run leaves you with an "E" icon that isn't representative of the actual service (we don't have E, only WCDMA and HSDPA).

Cheers

Cheers
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] lbarouf:
2.1.2.52? on this newer Dopod WM6 version does work? I would try that..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] aublumberg:
I've just reflashed the 1.40 radio, enabled HSDPA using HTCtweak and now I got one 730 kbps download but it's intermittent and not sustained if I test multiple times ... but icon still "3G" and not "H".

Previously I used the 1.41 radio and only got ~ 330 kbps. Am not saying it's the radio ... will try to flash 1.41 again later. The flashing sequence (radio first then OS, or OS first then radio) shouldn't matter actually right?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] lbarouf:
BBC and good technology... nice. I think the TyTn with BBC is a lot more interresting with it's video telephony, then the BB 8300 (which is hot in my book)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] walshieau:
E is for EDGE...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] solid_wizard:
Can someone post the rilgsm.dll that has the hsdpa one? I want to have a try if the old rilgsm.dll was the case.

i dont think the radio is the issue since i have updated from 1.40 to 1.41 i still get the same result

Cheers
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] walshieau:
i never mentioned its the radio... its the radio interface drivers that i think is the problem... still ripping the OS apart and looking...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] lbarouf:
Mine also shows E instead of 3G or H, but running radio 1.40 at -61dBm gives me 1244 kbps throughput. Don't see a need to update. Anything else I don't know?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] johnburn:
I use another way of turning Wi-Fi off/on. Slide the keyboard open just enough to show the bottom row of keys. Press the blue dot ("Option/Alt") button then press the "OK" key. This will toggle Wi-Fi off/on. Close the keyboard. It isn't quicker than the old bubble method, but it will do for now.

John
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kipe:
nice! thanks for the method bro...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] johnburn:
Why is it so important to delete it? .TSK files take up so little space (around 15K). Just don't use it. If the file is in ROM (or in use by a process or app), you can't delete it.

John
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] leo-chan:
Dopod is primarily used in southeast asia.. i guess so?