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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Buy a GSM unlocked phone in that case. I do love my old S3 but it was time to move on

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] brd912:
Well I'm making the switch to straight talk today. Hopefully cdma workshop can get 4G working. I've searched and searched and I can't find any explanation as to why or where the 4G is deactivated. by the process of elimination, I've come come to the conclusion that it has to be in the physical hardware. I'm going to try one more thing before I start tinkering with cdma workshop. I'm going to try to flash a d2lte rom to see if that does it. anyone know of a lollipop d2lte rom?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
I didn't find any with a search but If I come across one I'll post it here, the two d2vzw lollipop roms I seen are both lollipop but not & d2lte roms.

I think the issue with the straight talk S3 is indeed the hardware, they managed to remove the 4G option on this variant and the VZW prepaid version also

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] brd912:
I'm wondering if the process they used is the same process page plus retailers used on 4G devices..because my girlfriend had a Verizon s3 that they had to flash to 3G so it can be used on pageplus..when she switched to a note 2 a few weeks ago they told her they offered Verizon's 4G coverage now and she would get it on her note no flashing required. Worked right outta the box. We took her old s3 and hooked it up for my mom. They said that it had to be flashed back to 4G so I'm wondering if straight talk flashed this phone to 3G only with flashing software..if so, is there a free program anywhere to do this? The CDMA workshop trial has never given me the outcome I was looking for.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Droidriven:
I would like to know how you got a straight talk phone on Verizon prepaid? That's the first ive heard of this model going yo Verizon, its not supposed to be possible. Explain.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] brd912:
About 2 weeks ago I was using this straight talk s3 on Verizon postpaid, not prepaid. I just flashed a Verizon ROM and setup the apns and threw my Verizon sim card in and it worked. It stayed in a roaming state but it worked fine. Calls, texts and data. I think I did dial *228 to get it to lock onto the network. I still have the line if you would like to see some proof
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Droidriven:
If you are saying that you were on Verizon because you had the Verizon wireless showing in your status bar or because it said it in your phone somewhere then no you weren't on Verizon, your phone showed that stuff because it has that stuff in your build.prop, that doesn't mean you were on Verizon, the only way to actually be on Verizon is if you actually setup an account with them and activated the phone on their network. Supposedly Verizon won't let you activate a straight talk phone on Verizon account, this device is not able to carrier unlock and that's what you have to do to actually switch carriers and use your IMEI on another network. It shows SCH-I535 because of the build.prop, all of that Verizon stuff and the i535 stuff can be edited in the build.prop, that has nothing to do with who you actually have service with, that's just there because its written in the ROM.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] brd912:
No...I have a Verizon contract tied to my Verizon 4G sim card...it works fine in this straight talk phone. Just stays roaming.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Droidriven:
That doesn't matter, it requires more than just sticking the SIM in, just because its an active SIM that still has an account on it doesn't change anything. Did you setup an account with them using the IMEI from that phone, you would have had to unlock the device to switch carriers and unlocking this model bricks it, did you ever have it on straight talk and cancel the account then take all the info and numbers from the phone and setup a Verizon account with them, if not then I don't care what you think or say you weren't on Verizon.

And another thing Verizon would have never allowed a prepaid device on their non prepaid plans, I've been over this with Verizon reps already, that's why I say somehow you are mistaken.

You have no idea the amount of research I've put into what can be done with this model and what can't be done. If you did do it then that's the first I've heard of this device being switched to a different carrier.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] brd912:
Maybe the phone is unlocked, I don't know. I don't care what you think or say, I was using my contract Verizon line on this s968c...I'll post some screenshots tomorrow when I can get the sim card without waking up the girl.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Droidriven:
Screenshots of what, I'm on straight talk using Verizon ROMs and my screenshots will show the same thing yours is if you're talking about taking screenshots of your settings, mine say Verizon all through them too, doesn't mean I'm on Verizon.

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Answer the question this time, did you actually setup an account with Verizon using your IMEI? Or are you just sticking the SIM in?

Your device is not unlocked unless you did it yourself or if you had straight talk do it but I know that isn't possible because straight talk doesn't do that AT ALL. It takes more than just flashing a Verizon ROM and using a Verizon SIM also.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] brd912:
I'll take screenshots of my Verizon account showing my phone number and what phone I'm using and I'll have the phone in the picture as well to show the same number is on this phone and its the s968c...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Droidriven:
Myself and many many others have been over and over this with Verizon, the answer is the same every time, they don't take straight talk phones of any kind on their network and they don't accept prepaid phones on their paid plans either, no matter what network its from. I know Verizon's procedure and that's not how they operate.

Where did you take it to switch it, I'm telling you its not as simple as flashing a ROM and using the SIM, I don't care what your bill shows or what your phone shows. That is not how a phone is switched from network to network.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] brd912:
They must really like me then..I'll post proof that can't be denied tomorrow..no worries. I gain nothing by lying about using a carrier.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Droidriven:
You still haven't said anything about the process you used to switch, it takes more than just flashing a ROM and using a SIM, there is more involved than that, there are numbers that have to pulled from the device that you can't get to through settings, there are secret menus that have to be accessed through the dialer and those numbers along with your IMEI would be used to set it up on a different network, did you take your phone down to the Verizon store and have them do anything to it?

They don't change their policies just for one person.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] brd912:
Dude I flashed a Verizon ROM, threw my sim in and called *228 and it worked. It was that simple. Not sure if it matters that the line has passed the 2 year contract but maybe so. We'll get to the bottom of it. Hey, maybe someone can benefit off you being skeptical :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Droidriven:
Dude, I flashed a Verizon ROM and stuck a Verizon 4g SIM in and dialed *228 ALSO!! Guess what, all that does is make the Verizon ROM get data and working MMS but still on STRAIGHT TALK, all of us that are on straight talk that have the Verizon 4G SIM have done the EXACT same thing because that's what it takes to get the stock MMS to work properly on the d2vzw ROMs, that's how I know you are mistaken SOMEHOW otherwise we'd all be on Verizon, myself included but I'm not and neither are they. Some of the guys with our phone are even going down to the Verizon store to get a brand new Verizon 4g SIM just so they can use it in their straight talk phones by dialing *228. YOU or VERIZON are mistaken somehow.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] brd912:
Please read this out loud while you read it. The sim card I have in the phone now is a spare 4g sim card. The one I was using was from my VERIZON CONTRACT. It was on my dads account, I switched to straight talk and haven't given him the sim card back yet. Anyways, I'm not saying I was on Verizon because I put in a random 4G sim card with my straight talk service and it just magically connected to Verizon. There was no account on this phone at all. I put my sim that has a Verizon contract line tied to it in the phone and it worked. I just called Verizon to see if I could pull up a list of my recent activated phones but I can't because I don't have manager access to our online profile. But I told her around the time I was using the s3 and she that at that time it shows that I was using a test device. It wouldn't show her any information on the phone at all. I will download an app that shows whether your sim unlocked or not, and I'll take screenshots of the phone number on my Verizon contract line matching the one in the phone. As soon as everyone else wakes up I'll dig for the sim card and get you your proof. Hell I may even make a video of me putting the sim in and me turning it on. I did nothing to the phone to get it to work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Droidriven:
Exactly, it wouldn't show anything other than a test device because the device is not ACTUALLY activated on Verizon's network so your IMEI shouldn't even be in their system if you haven't called them and set that IMEI up with them you just HAPPEN to be getting something from the Verizon network because the SIM is active and the phone number is tied to the SIM so that is allowing you to use that number but the device is not actually on Verizon, its just showing up in their system, this device is basically subbed under Verizon because straight talk is on Verizon's network so when you put the activated sim in the Verizon network sees it and starts pumping service to it, you're basically in a signal pirating situation, that is not actual activation, your phones info has to be entered into their system for that and you havent done that so you aren't where you think you are and Verizon is just too stupid to realize it, they'll kill the SIM if they ever figure it out.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] brd912:
Sounds logical. But it did happen
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Droidriven:
I believe you but you are missing my point the whole time, my point was you are NOT on Verizon whether the phone is getting anything or working or not. I never said your device wasn't working, I said you aren't on Verizon because your phone has not been entered into their network, that's why you were only getting 1x data and that still remains true, call Verizon and go through the phone switch and IMEI activation and see how far it gets you using that SIM, my money says they won't do it once they know its a straight talk phone and even if some idiot there goes through the process with you and tries to activate your phone with your info on their network and it actually works, then Verizon's network will at some point automatically detect that your device is not a Verizon device and that will raise a red flag and get an administrators attention and when they see it they'll ping the card and kill it just like they use to do when people did a similar thing with direct TV and their network access cards, once they realize something is on their system that isn't supposed to be then they hit it over the air and kill it, that's considered piracy in their book even if someone there did by some means activate it they will have done it when they weren't supposed to and in the end Verizon won't allow it, its just a matter of time, even if you don't say anything to them they'll still pick up on it eventually if you continue to use the SIM, then when they kill that SIM you father will have to get another SIM and might even have to go through account setup and activation all over again which will cost him extra when he shouldn't have to do it. Things like that can even cause credit issues and sometimes even get someone in trouble, you could be walking a fine line on violating FCC rules which is federally regulated, that's not something you want to mess with, it could backfire on the one that owns the account.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] brd912:
When I was using on with my Verizon account it only showed roaming and never showed 1x or 3g but the data speeds were pretty decent. Had to be 3g. It even kept up with my data usage. Like all the data I pulled while my sim card was in this phone, it took from my account. But na its not illegal if you simply put a sim in the phone and it happens to work. I didn't modify the serial number or anything.. They would probably just disconnect it and force me to get a new sim with a different phone. Either way IDC, I found a way to flash it to pageplus so I'm gonna hop on that route
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Droidriven:
Good luck unlocking without hard bricking it then, that's what happens when an unlock is attempted on this device, a device must be carrier unlocked to switched networks, there is no other way to do it, I can link you to quite a few threads and posts where this was attempted by many people, all failures and all left with a device that is hard bricked with no way to recover the device. But go ahead, if you get it done without bricking then by all means post it, but my experience is that you aren't going to have any luck.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] brd912:
The guy I've always used to flash my phones claims he has put both the st Verizon and st sprint s3 on pageplus. He said his wife owns one of them he flashed. He don't take any money until the flash is done and successful and last time he broke my droid incredible 2 trying to replace the screen and charger port, he replaced with one in a better condition..he's a trustworthy guy so I figured its worth a shot. I've seen many of devs and other very intelligent members here say something couldn't be done but there's always a way. Sometimes people don't find it right away so maybe this dude is the one who could solve the problem. If not, so what? I understand you have some knowledge on this stuff but is really that big of a deal? My s3 worked fine for 2-3 weeks running off my postpaid account sim card and that was a shocker right? I'll let you know what happens when I go to get it flashed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Droidriven:
There is more than one model of st s3, is he talking about the 960L or the s968c? I'm thinking he is talking about the other one.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] brd912:
He said he's done both. I'm willing to try so I'll post my outcome here
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Droidriven:
Whatever, his "way" will have to involve doing the things I mentioned already with secret dialer menus to get the numbers he needs to do the cross flash and it is doing this that results in the hard brick, there isn't "another" way to do this, the same thing has been done by many others, I very seriously doubt its going to miraculously work just because its your guy doing it, I think you are wasting your money and time and I'm wasting my time trying to explain to you that it isn't going to work, I'll garauntee that this has already been tried by way more experienced people than him, the results aren't going to be any different just because its your phone, your phone and your guy aren't that special. Get ready to buy another phone. He's not the first to "claim" he can do something that can't be done, he won't be the first to fail either. I wouldn't have him do it without seeing one that has actually been done and verify it for a fact. I'll bet he hasn't, he just THINKS he can, he's probably full of himself and thinks he can do anything.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] brd912:
Why do you assume the people here are more experienced than him? Why are you putting so much effort into proving me wrong? I'm willing to take the loss to see if it works but like I said, he replaced my other phone was the repair didn't go as planed, he replaced the phone with one of his phones so I I feel cool about doing Jt.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Droidriven:
I'm not talking about just people here, I'm talking about hundreds if not thousands of people that have tried this, I've researched everything there is on this device, even back to before ST picked it up. There are only so many ways to do this and its been tried by many many many people many many many different ways by masters of this kind of thing, all the ways that exist have been tried and tried again and again with no success, just a brick. Its like this, I also work on cars and you're basically trying to tell me that this guy can put a Ford camshaft in a Chevrolet engine, not possible by just switching parts, to even be able to do it you'd have to machine and fabricate something to make it work. The equivalent with this situation would be him opening the phone up and taking out pieces of hardware and replacing it with hardware that wasn't designed to be used with this device, to even do so would take some engineering, not just flashing.

I assume nothing, I'm telling you what I have chased for a LONG time all around the world everywhere there is even the slightest mention of this device, I've been through everything with a fine toothed comb, I'm telling you what I KNOW, it is YOU that assumes, my friend, but you'll learn that soon enough, I'll bet you didn't listen when you were a child and someone that knew better told you "don't touch that, it will burn you", I wonder how many burn scars you had to get before you figured out that they actually knew what they were talking about.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] brd912:
Lol dude you've long ago proved your point..but you also acted as if it using my s3 on my Verizon contract was impossible. Regardless of the state it was in, it showed my number, talk text and data was working fine. Honestly I give no f***s about it, I've only argued this far because of how much effort your putting into proving me wrong and it doesn't even mater
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Droidriven:
Dude, its you that are trying to prove thousands of people wrong, you're just one person. And yes actually getting it on Verizon's contract IS impossible regardless of whether you just happened to get the device to do something, and besides, it wasn't your PHONE that was showing on the network, it was the SIM that was showing because it was in a device, that's it, like having a title for a car that doesn't match the VIN, your phone was recieving signal, it was NOT and WILL NOT be on Verizon's network no matter what and that's just all there is to it. The fact is you don't know your ass from a whole in the ground. The trick will be you proving yourself (one person) right, not proving thousands wrong. You're in kind of a cloned state, one that has the network thinking your phone is another phone, its THAT phone that is actually on the Verizon network not YOURS. Your phone is pirating data which makes you a thief as long as you're using it. Think about that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] brd912:
It isn't illegal until you modify the phones physical identity of the phone..like the serial number. The lady at Verizon told me that it seen no problem with it. How is it stealing if it was taking data from my account, which means I pay for it? You sir, are the one who doesn't know you're ass from a HOLE in the ground. You're replies aren't even based off what I actually said. If you're done trying to look cool in my thread feel free to bounce TF out.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Droidriven:
Its piracy no matter how you look at it because you are doing it on a device that you are supposed to be doing it on regardless of who's account it is or what is paid or what SIM is used. Now, if you actually had it on their service through them directly after having the actual phone and it's info entered into their system then what you seem to think would apply, but not at present, call them up or go down to their store and actually put it on their network if you want to do it the right way, until you actually accomplish that you haven't done anything that is actually legitimately usable. You're pirating, Verizon just doesn't know it. If you went about it legitimately you wouldn't be able to do it all and in a nutshell that's what "it can't be done" actually means.

You think you've done something because you found something no one can ACTUALLY use, so no matter what you post you haven't accomplished a thing. You thought you had something but you don't.

Get it done the RIGHT way if you even can in the first place. Then come back and post the whole process start to finish and I'll even make sure other people that want to do the same thing know where to find it, I'll make sure you get all the credit for it too, and then when another user besides you actually successfully does it and it works I'll even apologize and tell you I was wrong and that you were right but I'm pretty sure that day will never come because as I said, Verizon doesn't take straight talk devices, they especially won't put a prepaid device on their paid service, PERIOD!!! Thats their policy, always has been their policy and will continue to be their policy.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] brd912:
Its no different than rooting your phone to use mobile hotspot when you don't pay for it. Either way you look at it, I bought a phone, threw my sim in and it connected. If there was a problem with it I'm sure the tech rep I talked to would have known. Oh and guess what? Just threw my girls pageplus 4G sim in my s3, transferred my line to another straight talk phone and her sim worked fine but it stayed roaming. We all know pageplus don't care how you get a phone to work on their network...I activated a bad ESN galaxy s2 on pageplus because it showed up as unknown but I got them to add it to the system and I did the programming my self. I may can't set this phone up on an account, but wether its Verizon or pageplus, an already activated sim will work in this phone and that is not illegal my friend. Its my phone and my plan, if it works without me modifying the serial number then wohoo for me. I've accomplished all I needed to accomplish. Pageplus will work.

Mods you can close this..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] brd912:
Actually nothing you said makes any sense at all. I have a plan, I have a phone..they just so happen to work together. Is it my fault I tried it and it worked? That makes me a thief? You're the slow one bro. Verizon didn't seem to give a **** so why do you? I mean really you're trying to make it out like I purposely worked some evil magic behind closed doors to get this phone to work..it just worked. If a warehouse handed me the keys and said take whatever you want, no crime would have been committed. I put a sim in my phone and it worked. Please try to accept the fact you are fishing in the wrong pond, with the wrong bait. Seems like you're one of those who know a "lil" bit of knowledge so you go around the forums trying to throw that knowledge around as if you are the only one who could possibly be right. I told Verizon my self I rooted my straight talk galaxy s3 and it it worked on my account..I then asked her if it was possible..she said of course, she's seen it happen before. You're wasting you're time bro..I got it working on Verizon and pageplus and you're the only who seems butthurt. Please cry somewhere else.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Droidriven:
It doesn't make sense because you don't understand English. You are distracted by the excitement of what you think you accomplished that you dont give a damn about what you are really doing, all you give a damn about is you can use the phone. Nevermind that you aren't doing it the right way.

Like I said, Verizon is just too stupid to realize it, they didn't give you the keys, you took them, they just don't care. I can go up in your house and take something, you not liking it doesn't make the thief, the fact that I did it does.