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[Nexus 6  General] painfree:
What actually comprises a "Post" is it a new topic or simply repeated replies in a single or more than 1 topic?
[Nexus 6  General] hayzooos:
I'd say all of the above. There might be some stipulations on which forums/topics qualify as a 'post' or not as well, but not that I'm aware of.

Whether you reply to someone, like you did previously or I did to you, or you just make a statement in a thread without quoting someone, or start a whole new thread...all of those would constitute as a post.
[Nexus 6  General] hayzooos:
Anyone in here know how to get rid of that 'System Update' message? With previous phones I know I could manually edit the build.prop and change it that way, but I wasn't sure if that trick still worked. I'd like to hold off on flashing anything until M officially drops, but I got the update yesterday and it's already starting to annoy me.

I did grab the latest factory image from Google though in case this is the only way, I just want to make sure I flash only the right things. Userdata is obviously a no, recovery is a no.

I'm planning on flashing only system and radio, but I'm wondering if I HAVE to flash boot (or anything else, like cache) if I'm flashing system as well.

Since I have root and Xposed installed, I'm going to go ahead and assume the stock T-Mobile OTA update will fail even if I try and update it.
[Nexus 6  General] TechnoGeek2134:
I've been wondering this myself as well. I'd like to manually update to the latest version, keeping userdata intact as if I've done the OTA, but my phone has the no-force encrypt boot image from WugFresh's Toolkit and for some reason his program still doesn't have the latest K version in it (and, as such, the no-force encrypt boot isn't there either).

From my previous experiences, I know that flashing the stock boot image forces my phone to encrypt; i'd like to avoid this. Could I skip flashing the boot image located in the K update without any issues? Or will something break if I do?
[Nexus 6  General] hayzooos:
I'm not 100%, but there's another thread in General about 'Flashing Stock OTA' where I also posted and the guy in there was talking about only flashing system.img. I think if you only flash that, you should be okay. Might want to check in there and ask the OP (XDA Admin I think) and he should be able to tell you for sure one way or another.

I never messed with encryption since I got my phone, so I'm not familiar with it.
[Nexus 6  General] Ryjabo:
I installed the 5.1 update last night -- no change as far as this is concerned. Maybe the radio didn't get flashed right? Or T-Mobile just sucks where I live?

A co-worker has a T-Mobile phone and he does not have the same reception issues I'm experiencing.
[Nexus 6  General] brizey:
I just flashed the vanilla 5.1 ROM...and the tmobile app auto-installed again.
[Nexus 6  General] RoninRyan:
It's a "feature" of lollipop. Google made an agreement with carriers that when the phone boots for he first time with a sim card in, it'll look at the sim card and download the apps google and the carrier agreed on. For tmobile, it's just one app and you can uninstall it.
[Nexus 6  General] Smallsmx3:
Unfortunately after owning many nexus devices I think it's how aosp and stock android handles cell reception. My guess is since carriers have time to tweak a phone before it's launched and being optimized for that particular network it will always have better cell service. Think about it, every nexus is the same on every carrier. There's no code to make it better for one network over the other. I've had the same network issues on every nexus I've had. I've always thought it was just a hardware issue. on a positive note T-Mobile upgraded towers in my area so I get LTE just about every where I frequent. But it seems that the radio is better for me in the others.
[Nexus 6  General] SFVDan:
I flashed the factory image last night on my TMo acquired N6. No issues to report other than the existence of Band 12 service. Stock, rooted and that's it.

On a side note, thanks to all the contributors here. I appreciate all the help and guidance y'all have provided over the years.

Enjoy the weekend!
[Nexus 6  General] liquidhaste:
Just wanted to chime in, I flashed the radios last night and the vanillapop ROM. I'm seeing a very stable LTE connection in areas I would constantly be hopping from H+ to E to LTE. I'm very pleased to report this. In my area of lakeland Florida this is a dramatic improvement. Now just waiting for WiFi calling.
[Nexus 6  General] ford12acing:
ive not been able to sideload on my n6. verification fails and the installation aborts. sigh
[Nexus 6  General] kenbrownstone:
Were can I find if I have band 12 here? Mine stays on band 2....Just got tmo couple weeks ago and don't know much other than in my area they smoke vzw
[Nexus 6  General] tbird302:
Double text messaging anyone?
[Nexus 6  General] noodles2224:
I have duplicate text if I have enhance LTE on. There's a thread about it already..

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] jbdan:
I haven't had any double text issues (knock on wood) and am using the enhanced LTE mode. Texting all day today. Tmo

EDIT: knew I had jinxed myself... Got double text this morning.... Oh well :)
[Nexus 6  General] Smallsmx3:
Im only getting double texts in certain areas
[Nexus 6  General] kingston73:
Have any of you updated and then gone back? Any issues if you Have?
[Nexus 6  General] aergern:
You kind of missed the point. I WOULD not have purchased it from them if I'd have known that just a TMO sim would get one the zip pushed to do Wifi calling.

The main question was HOW will we get it if our phones are flashed with the factory image .. what triggers the 2nd download of the wifi zip?

It's cool .. no one knows how that will work yet. Nevermind.
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
its probably something google is going to update. with google wanting to do service, they want the phone to seemslessly go from network to wifi and back, same as tmobile. so expect a different update for wifi calling from google. tmobile cant update our devices, at all.
[Nexus 6  General] tbird302:
I went back to 5.0 waiting for it to come ota
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
WiFi calling should be coming to all nexus 6 phones......its a lollipop feature...
[Nexus 6  General] z0phi3l:
Only when Mom tests me from her iPhone, when she uses her N6 no doubles, everyone else uses Hangouts

Now to get her to use Hangouts !!
[Nexus 6  General] brizey:
Getting double texts occasionally from my wife, mom, and dad. All iphone 6 users. Hmmm...
[Nexus 6  General] tradermatt:
I manually upgraded to 5.1 hoping for WiFi calling only to be disappointed and also upset to now have the duplicate message issue now. Hopefully if I revert back it will fix that issue.
[Nexus 6  General] IronCityMZ3:
I had double texts with stock 5.1 messenging app. No problems with textra.
[Nexus 6  General] rhray:
I don't know if it's been said before in this thread but the double text issue is solved on T-Mobile for me by turning off Enhanced 4G LTE Mode in my settings. I was getting doubletexts from lots of people as soon as I flashed 5.1 and no action of changing texting apps solved the issue until I turned off that setting. Good luck!
[Nexus 6  General] jbdan:
I'd rather get the infrequent double texts than give up enhanced LTE but that's just me. SMS is instantaneous now as fast as hangouts, voice calls connect instantly and my radio not having to switch is bonus on my battery. Of course I'm assuming this is all because of the enhanced LTE feature
[Nexus 6  General] hasbrobot:
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...olte-support-coming-to-nexus-6-this-week.html

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] 530farm:
Says it would come via OTA. Does anyone know how that would work on a non-TMO nexus 6 w/ a Tmo sim? For example i'm getting a nexus 6 from verizon but will be using it on Tmobile.
[Nexus 6  General] Sieber101:
Can anyone who installed the newer 5.1 factory image test the enhanced LTE double text message issue? Since the new image seems to mess with binary and cell network stuff perhaps that issue has been fixed?
[Nexus 6  General] TheAmazingDave:
I'm on T-Mo, and I've had enhanced LTE enabled since I flashed 5.1 on the 12th. I haven't had any problems with duplicate SMS.

FWIW...
[Nexus 6  General] beachbum40:
I'm T-Mobile n6 as well and haven't had any more issues since 5.1 update.. Very pleased?
[Nexus 6  General] noodles2224:
I turned off enhanced LTE but only problem is my SMS don't come through sometimes. Then I have restart or toggle airplane mode. Stock 5.1 since the 12th. T-Mobile.

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] daijizai:
Had problems with call kill and duplicate sms until I re-flashed factory images.
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
no issues with duplicate sms/mms, and volte is working fine. i dity flashed a 5.1 rom over 5.0.2, then dirty flashed a different 5.1 rom, then flashed the 95r radio. everything is golden here :)
[Nexus 6  General] beachbum40:
How we get volte working on T-Mobile n6 ? Do I just enable enhanced LTE feature?
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
yup. make a call, if it stays on lte while making/on the call, then you have volte.
[Nexus 6  General] jaggrey:
I haven't gotten the update yet.... Do you have to turn on Enhanced LTE or is it on by default? Out of curiosity...
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
i flashed an aosp rom, and it was on by default, if that matters.
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
So, HD calls are only supposed to work with other compatible HD voice capable phones? I was able to get HD voice with my nexus 6 talking to my moms moto g on kk (unlocked us cellular version). How is that possible? Something I overlooked?
[Nexus 6  General] wondercoolguy:
So apparently my volte was turned on by default which is good. The call quality seems to have changed for the worse its louder in my ear but sounds different. However the big difference that I've seen is Android Ram use I use a pop up widgets / launchy mix for my icons and before no animations worked they would just appear now I got everything works perfect
[Nexus 6  General] prerunnerseth:
Pretty sure I got a VoLTE call from my wife on her Z3 yesterday. Can't be sure because we just switched to T-mo and thats the only call ive had since switching, But it sounded crystal clear.
[Nexus 6  General] kingston73:
I'm curious, does VoLTE work across platforms, android to IOS?
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
all volte is is voice over lte, hense VoLTE. HD voice is different.
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
HD calls do not equal VoLTE calls. Even is explained on T-Mobile's website. It says HD calls need both compatible phones, VoLTE calls must be on VoLTE compatible phone with LTE service.

HD calling is a codec thing, makes calls clearer but uses old 2G/3G technology otherwise. VoLTE is using the data channel (LTE) to place a call (essentially you are calling on a super VoIP client)
[Nexus 6  General] ceo4eva:
Anyone know that answer?
[Nexus 6  General] qnzesc0bar:
You do not know what you are talking about. All calls now use LTE when available. Nexus 6 does VoLTE. VoLTE = calls made OVER LTE....which the Nexus DOES. All my calls have been using LTE. Please do not say things you have no knowledge about.
[Nexus 6  General] grim489:
_Dennis_ never said what you are stating was said. Just explained the difference between HD calls and volte
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
Was this a failure to quote the right post or failure to read?

Let me try to explain again just in case.

"All call now use LTE when available."

Available means 1) Your phone has VoLTE enabled. 2) You are in a LTE market with LTE signal. These we agree on I'm pretty sure.

"Nexus 6 does VoLTE"

Yes if it is enabled and running 5.1 with one of the new radios sure does. Once again we agree.

"VoLTE = calls made OVER LTE"

Well that's 3 for 3, correct again sir. Again we agree.

"Please do not say things you have no knowledge about."

Since nothing I said is different then what you said, either we both know what we are talking about, or neither of us do. And I am fairly certain I know what I'm talking about so......
[Nexus 6  General] plasticarmyman:
Anyone heard anything concrete about WiFi calling with T-mo yet?
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
Nothing concrete just Does saying "still coming". :( I asked on Twitter but no response.
[Nexus 6  General] plasticarmyman:
I asked the chat support a couple weeks ago and all i got was "soon"

I just figured since yesterday was the end of Q1 that we would hear something from them at least...

*shrug* it's gonna be here eventually...at least we still have a better phone than the Next Gens that have been announced :P
[Nexus 6  General] TechnoGeek2134:
It might be sooner than soon now. I've been reading about a possible 5.1.1 update around the corner, which could be the build that finally includes Wi-Fi Calling.
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
Could be, or it could just fix the wake lock in 5.1. No one knows til there is some official word :(
[Nexus 6  General] boidsonly:
New to T-Mobile-was on unlimited with VZW for many years. Ordered the 64gb N6 since they did not have any in stock. Unlocked the bootloader and rooted it the day after I activated it. Don't miss VZW a bit.

VZW has been after my unlimited plan for a year or more. Well, now they have it.....

Coverage is not as good on T-Mo but the unlimited plans are cheaper and I was able to enroll everyone in an unlimited plan and save $70/month. Loving T-mobile...:)
[Nexus 6  General] Sieber101:
I was helping my dad shop for a new phone and was talking to a tmobile rep about Wi-Fi calling and he told me the nexus 6 would "probably never get Wi-Fi calling " and recommended he buy a galaxy 5 or a note 4 which already has it. Asked him if the nexus 6 has the ability to Wi-Fi call in hangouts and he said no... He obviously never heard of google voice and it was a good thing I was there.
[Nexus 6  General] BigDig:
Reps don't know sh!t. They're the last people you should trust with tech questions... They're no savvier than a Stop and Shop cashiers....
[Nexus 6  General] paychex:
Also they push the phones with the highest markups
[Nexus 6  General] lordhamster:
If they had the first clue about technology, they wouldn't be working as cell phone sales reps.

That said, it is always a safer bet (especially in the Android arena) to go with the phone that already has the features you want, vs the vaporware.

If I knew that Early 2015 wifi calling meant "Sometime end of May...maybe" I'd probably have gone with another device. I need Wifi calling yesterday.
[Nexus 6  General] treIII:
http://www.pocketables.com/2015/03/...-wifi-calling-to-be-added-to-the-nexus-6.html

Latest news on WiFi calling. Tmobile giving bs again.

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 6  General] sithdroid2187:
Wifi calling will get here when it's ready. I'd rather they delay it and make sure it's good than for them to push it out now and have to deal with everyone complaining that it's buggy.
[Nexus 6  General] lordhamster:
That is a false dichotomy. I think what we were hoping for was a quality, tested and working function in the time-frame that was promised. As a phone-addict, I generally only have any given phone for 1 year. That means that for over half of the life of this device, I will not have had access to a feature that it was billed to come with. Major letdown for me.
[Nexus 6  General] amaddux:
It was never "billed to come with it". Right from the beginning, Google/TMobile made it very clear it would not be on the phone at launch. They said it would come during the first part of 2015. Most of us took that to mean Jan or Feb, but technically it is still the first part of 2015.
[Nexus 6  General] YankInDaSouth:
Here's what I got from T-Mobile on G+

Edit: this is the page they referenced in the post - https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
[Nexus 6  General] lordhamster:
Since we are being nitpicky on phrasing, lets be specific. They didnt' say "first part" they said "early 2015." Then back in Feb Des said by end of Q1. NOW after all of those promises have slipped, they are saying first half.

Either way, this product will have gone past half its lifecycle without Wifi Calling.
[Nexus 6  General] YankInDaSouth:
Typical retort ...
[Nexus 6  General] Smallsmx3:
I didnt use WiFi calling when I had it on other phones.... If it's that important of a feature maybe it's time to switch carriers
[Nexus 6  General] YankInDaSouth:
I'm new to T-Mobile, so I haven't had WiFi calling yet, but it was a big draw for me switching to T-Mo. And as far as I know they are the only US carrier that offers it.
[Nexus 6  General] drewgalyen:
Yeah, if you split the year into Jan-Nov and Dec, I guess Halloween is still in the "first part of the year" too.
[Nexus 6  General] hd2Raz:
Really disappointing. My note 4 appears to never get lollipop and now my Nexus 6 won't get wifi calling (which I rely heavily on at home, no service in my area) anytime soon. So tired of waiting around for updates. luckily my S6 edge has it all, except the screen is too small. Lol.
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
Typical retort lol
[Nexus 6  General] vvveith:
I agree.

I was shocked to see how small the screen is. My god, you could almost fit two of them side by side on the Nexus 6. Sharp phone though.
[Nexus 6  General] paychex:
Accurate. Should have done some research
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
Done it and also agree wifi calling is one of the reasons why someone would choose tmobile
[Nexus 6  General] yellowman82:
Because of their lack in services in some area's correct?
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
In one area in the mountains yee

The rest due to buildings being fortresses and signal degrading to edge
[Nexus 6  General] paychex:
Sound more like you believed their promise and ignored the fact that no other Nexus device has had it. If that feature is so important you should have got a phone that has it out the box
[Nexus 6  General] yellowman82:
This is true and I had that feature on my LG G flex on sprint but I never used it since sprint is really great in my area and location. So far 2 nexus variant doesn't have it which are sprint and T-Mobile not sure if the other 2 even have that feature but for me it's not needed.
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
I already have a wifi calling phone. Switch between the 2 until wifi calling comes to Android. Besides its an upcoming android feature so all will have it like iOS.

Besides its something they promised and they already are testing so its a matter of time.

Was going to get the z3 but wifi calling promise was the one that pushed me over the n6 edge even though I hate the size
[Nexus 6  General] treIII:
IOS just got WiFi calling. Android has had it for a couple years. Its only the n6 that doesn't have it being a nexus device.

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
No Android does not have it

That's a tmobile add-on

Google is finally set to add it
[Nexus 6  General] treIII:
U win

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 6  General] sithdroid2187:
It makes me wonder why is it so hard to put wifi calling on a Nexus, but it's easy on every other Android phone.
[Nexus 6  General] rrmzr1:
What's funny to me is how long its taken to come out now. Along with the n4 lollipop update? Also what's also funny is how many Tmobile employees/stock holders we have in the XDA forums these days. Tmobile is like any other carrier. Its not about us. Its about the profits
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
I dont think its easy but its something only baked into tmo variants.

They are putting it on android for all. Thats many different configurations of hardware.

Plus its already being tested so cant be too hard right?
[Nexus 6  General] TeacherMac:
Google Fi Requires a Nexus 4 which has issues with WiFi & WiFi Calling

This will be a horrible experience with T-Mobile & Sprint - The two networks that make up Google Fi.

My choice is to go 1/2 miles from my home to be able to make or receive calls using the T-Mobil network so I don't drop calls or to have non-stop issues and aggravation using the CellSpot Asus TM-AC1900 router which I received from T-Mobil (replaced once already) and the Galaxy Note 4 which has unresolved issues which Tier 2 support finally told was confirmed by Samsung, no clue as to when there might be a fix.

They would have upgraded me to the Nexus 6 except that WiFi calling isn't working with the Nexus 6 and there was no date for the fix. I was provided with an LG G3 that also did not provide WiFi calling and was returned within 2 weeks.

I require WiFi calling for my phone from my home in Orange County, California 92782 and I'm sure there are many thousands of people that require trouble free calls .

I am not alone in believing that the advertising of WiFi calling is false advertising when it doesn't work reliably.

Google requiring a dysfunctional Nexus 4 to be used on the two networks that provide the worst customer support dooms Google Fi to failure.
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
OK, your experience is not that of thousands of others, plus your WiFi calling complaints are about T-Mobile not Project Fi. I've had fairly good customer service from sprint in the past, and while I think T-Mobile has some shipping issues, their customer service has been fairly good to me.

One story a trend does not make.

Edit: I suck at typing.
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
i agree. and he also has 4 posts from the 3+ years as a member of xda :eek:
[Nexus 6  General] Circaflex:
Thats weird, I am also in Orange County, 92780 and have ZERO issues with tmobile and dropped calls.

edit i realized we are in the same city, I have had zero issues in over a year after switching to tmobile from sprint
[Nexus 6  General] vvveith:
LG G3

I had the LG G3 and it did indeed have WiFi calling, don't know what kind of LG G3 he received but if it was Tmobile branded, it had WiFi calling, I know that for a fact because I have the same issue has him in my house. :confused:
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
Who called into question if the G3 had WiFi calling? Also how does having his issue prove the G3 had WiFi calling? You're post is all over the place and has no logic. It's like saying "I know refrigerators make things cold because mine had problems making things cold just like this other guys."
[Nexus 6  General] Exel:
Thats weird, I am also in Orange County, 92780 and have ZERO issues with tmobile and dropped balls.

I am also in Orange County, 92780 and have ZERO issues with tmobile and dropped balls.

have ZERO issues with tmobile and dropped balls.

dropped balls.

balls.
[Nexus 6  General] david279:
? what the hell is going on in here?

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] kingston73:
The "teachermac" poster said his G3 didn't work with wifi calling, so the other guy said his DID have wifi calling.

As far as tmo having poor customer service, they've gotten a lot better in recent years. I've been with them for nearly 12 years now and at first they had horrible CS. I'm not saying they are perfect, but what carrier is?

The biggest issue I've found with Tmo has been their shipping and handling dept SUCKS. I returned an Iphone (my wife's, no apple in my pocket) as part of the JUMP program and got a confirmation of receipt along with a picture of the phone saying they adjusted it's worth based on the IME number. All good, but skip ahead 2 months and I get a bill for $600+ dollars. Call Tmo and they say I never sent the phone back and need to pay them for it! After talking to 3 levels of CS I finally get somebody who listened and found the picture TMO themselves sent me.

Moral is, if you are worried about the network, don't be. If you have to return a TMO phone, do it in store through an actual person who can give you written confirmation before you ship it.