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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] :
Had Radio 1.34.00.10 before and now the new one. I am working in an area where only Devices with very good reception have signal. Had 1 bar with 1.34 and do have 1 bar with 1.41 too.

Battery drain seems the same.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Globalrebel:
buttons not responding

Hello all here is my setup . .

Black 2.5

Radio 1.41

and for some odd reason, all of a sudden my in call buttons don't work! I can't delete voicemails because when i press 7 nothing happens, and When i call places that require me to press numbers to move forward, it never goes!! I was wondering if anyone was getting these errors? BIG THING FOR ME. will be going back to 1.40 when i get the chance. I will say though, that for me the battery life has been much better! Wish it would fix the little things though!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
That is a strange error. Mine works. I wonder if something else with the operating and not the radio is causing the problem. I am using a different rom.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] armedmetallica:
Mine got stuck on HTC boot screen when I was done.

soft reset got it working again. After that ActiveSync stopped working. Soft reset caused ActiveSync on device to say something like "Server data changed, must do full synchronization. any changes made after the last successfull sync will be lost"

I'm on Olipro2.10

this radio

and Custel 1.2
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] johnburn:
Go into your Phone Options and make sure that "Keypad" (in the "Sounds" section of the first tab) didn't get changed to "Off". It should be either "Short tones" or "Long tones" with "Short tones" being the default.

John
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ccezar2004:
mine is off and is working... what you mentioned is only for the sounds not for sending DTMF
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] senergy:
In Black2.5 there is HTweakC. This app has an option under Phone>more Tweaks to Enable DTMF support. Check that it has a tick.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] layer1:
Switching back to 1.40.30.00 here as well.

I've been testing on my drive home with 1.41.xx.xx and the one thing I have noticed is that it looses signal easly. Not to mention, every single time going from UMTS to EDGE, it drops calls in every case.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Scrog:
Battery life seems less; some signal dropping, so I'm going back to 1.40.30.00
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] weinson:
I switched back too ... I was getting dropped calls on the transistion between 3G to GSM (using cingular in the Bay Area) .. and reception seemed a bit better with 1.40.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Globalrebel:
Checked and no tick. I went ahead and ticked it and saved. Hopefully this will fix the problem.

I'm guessing that DTMF means Dial Tone ? Function haha. what does it really stand for?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] horacehkm:
That's really cool! Thanks a lot and I can try on my mobile now!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] johnburn:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTMF
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] thedogger:
Dual Tone Multiple Frequency, if I remember right. Two sine waves overlaid on top of each other in a grid layout to match the keypad.

Some 3G mobile phones don't send DTMF to the network when you press a key, just a H.245 UII (User Input Indication) message. I'm guessing HTweakC must turn on a tweak which puts the DTMF tones inband into the voice channel, rather than just sending a data message indicating what key was pressed.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] brucewilsonpa:
Radio 1.41 = higher battery drain?

I've had 1.41 running for several days with WM6 and I feel like the battery drain has increased -- haven't done any objective testing, just a feeling that the battery is declining more rapidly than I experienced with 1.38. Anyone else experiencing this?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] boz:
I am another one that has reverted to radio 1.40, I found that the signal would drop right out in certain areas and come back again after a while which was no good to me, this would have contributed to the poorer battery life I had, as the phone is searching for the signal and consuming power to do this. Now I am back on 1.40 I have none of these problems.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Elchinator:
Same problem here, I had signal drops in the car. Very unpleasant.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
I am wondering if this is an AT&T tuned radio. I have never had better performance. This is the first radio I have ever used that did not drop a call while I drove from Central NJ to Wilmington DE to Philly and back. And the battery life is exceptional.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] debonairone:
I too will be going back to 1.40... I have had significant decrease in battery life as well as dropped calls in areas along my daily traveled route where I had no issues before... I used to have one dead spot, where the call would drop, but now I have three (minimum)...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ccezar2004:
me.. back to 1.40 too... there is no middle way for the signal strength ... only full or null...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] permet:
Back to 1.40... always "Insert Sim Card"...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mb:
I have also gone back to 1.40. The battery life seemed to drain quicker and the in-call volume I swear was quieter!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] senergy:
I think it would be helpful those who going back to older radios put what network your using then we can suss out what this radio is tuned for.

Personally I like it. Not problems for me at all

Vodafone:900Mhz, 1800Mhz, UMTS, HSDPA
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
You are making an excellent point. This is the best radio ROM by far for me. I have not dropped a call in days. I have clear connections. I have never had such a good experience on this Cingular (AT&T) network before.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] diezoo:
I back to 1.40... Battery life...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] joel32137:
Back to 1.40.30.0

3G reception on this radio isn't as good as the 1.40.30.0.... so I reverted back.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] nigel_wang:
Nice one, thanks for that.

:) Nice one, thanks for that.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rupture:
1.40.30.0 remains the best for me while using Rogers in Canada
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] stan23:
Hi,

I tried to flash that Radio ROM according to mrvanx guide, but failed.

First, I updated to HardSPL and now have IPL-1.04 and SPL-2.10.Olipro (had IPL-1.01 and SPL-1.04 before)

But the HERM_Radio_Only_1.41.00.10_CustomRUU does not detect my bootloader, I once allowed a DLL (itsutils.dll?) to be executed on my device, when the RUU said it couldn't connect my device.

Now i always get the message "Error, Unknown version! You should pick SSPL!" when i try to autodetect.

Shall I choose a bootloader on my own? Which?

Thanks in advance...

EDIT: ok, got it, thanks to mrvanx telling me to manually choose "SPL 2.02-2.10 New bootloader" and tick the box "is it HardSPL?"
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] arnoutboer:
Back to 1.40

Found out that on UMTS 1.41 is not stable..

Back to 1.40.

- A
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Vibein:
No good for T-Mobile UK, loosing signal.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] masta7100:
can someone post a link to where I can get the 1.40 radio... I can't find it.. thanks much!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] vp3G:
You're kidding, right?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] joej:
Back to 1.40 myself. much more stable for me too.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
It is strange. Is there anyone besides me who finds this to be a good release? It seems nobody is having luck with this, but I sure am! Maybe it works well on ATT (Cingular) but not any other network. I have never had a better radio on this network.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] joej:
possibly so as radios are sometimes tweaked to work better with certain networks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
Could be, but I have heard nobody say they like this ROM other than me. Maybe I am in an alternate universe.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] joej:
haha... no clue.. but I have 2 different hermes on 2 different telcos here in Asia which simply chokes on this new radio. band switching every 20-30 seconds making data transfers unusable.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
Well, I am traveling to California today from New Jersey. We will see how it works there.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] armedmetallica:
Another one back to 1.40

I upgraded to 1.40, then custel 1.2, custel 1.3, and then 1.41

When i was on the 1.40 and 1.2 combo, i was in manhatten, which has superior coverage regardless of radio.

However, that being said, 1.41 seems worse than 1.38. I'm going back to 1.40, trying it out for a week, and if that's worse, going way back to 1.38.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] wildwilly:
1.41 was terrible. It kept disconnecting from the cingular network and saying it was unavailable, even though i normally would get a perfect signal. I downgraded to 1.40 and hopefully wont have any problems.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] RemE:
I haven't had many issues with any radio rom to date, however, 1.41 seems less stable around my area in So Calif. I've gone back to 1.40 as it seems to be the best I've seen so far. 1.41 would show 4 bars everywhere it seems, even in places that I know are bad, and guess what, calls would disconnect. The radio would just sit on my desk and suddenly drop out and search for a minute, something I've never seen it do.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] wildwilly:
Yup, thats exactly what happened to me.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
I have been in San Francisco all week and have not experienced one dropped call (excpet the one time I dropped the entire phone on the floor). I am very impressed with this phone.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] peezy:
I was using 1.40 for about a week, then I just bricked my phone earlier tonight. I used the 1.41 ruu to get back online. Noticed right after the install that the bars kept fluctuating back and forth from 2-4 at my house (where I always had full bars). Just flashed back to 1.40, full bars again. Oh btw I live in Los Angeles
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] hiss1967:
THANKS

Thank For All Effort

I Test This Rom It Is Good
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] domomedia5:
for me better 1.41 than 1.40
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
So, I am now in Phoenix and went back to 1.40. 1.41 was totally unreliable here.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] etijburg:
you are not alone, I love this radio. battery life increased by atleast 25 percent. no dropped calls except in one spot where I have always dropped calls even on gms phones. all the other spots where I would drop calls I don't any more.

erik
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
As I said in a previous post, I had to dump this ROM. It is very flaky in Phoenix.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] massiv:
Ran 1.41 for about 2 weeks. I found that the signal strength seemed to be lower (2 bars instead of 3 at home). Signal seemed to fluctuate, whilst mobile (more than usual). Went back to 1.40.30 which seems to work for me (back to 3 bars at home).

Running on the Vodafone network in the UK
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] misfitflt:
Trying Radio 1.41 in MN

I was on the original 1.16 radio Cingular/AT&T in Minnesota so I figured I had nothing to lose going to 1.41. I just installed it. I will report back with results later.

Has anyone come up with a more quantative test of signal beside number of bars. Since applications like SPB phone suite and capture and display number of bars is the signal strength able to be read from the device? It would seem an application could be written to monitor signal.

Scenario. Load radio X. Start get in car. Start application. Drive a predetermined consistent route (hopefully without too many lights or traffic) and after returning home. Tell the applicaiton to collect statistics (signal strength, band switches, battery usage.) Then load radio Y and test again. Compare results.

Be kind - I am a n00b.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] bigdriver4u:
Field Test

I'm sure what u are asking can be captured thru the Field Test utility. Check the WIKI Herems page for software. It's there.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] nacholibre38:
1.41 likes SF AT&T so far

Changed from shipped radio to 1.41 two days ago and haven't had a single problem here in SF. In a couple of locations where I had little or no reception, I've had a 1 bar improvement. I was planning on checking out 1.40 from all the posts here but so far I don't feel the need to.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] weinson:
1.41 worked fine for me in SF (where I work), but from my admitedly subjective perspective, 1.40 works slightly better in oakland (where I live). The reality is radio selection is somewhat subjective...since there can be so many other factors at any given time affecting reception (yet we all blame the disconnects on the radio version we then happened to be using).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
I agree. I found 1.41 to work ok in SF and in NJ, but it did not work in Phoenix. When I went to the version listed in my signature line, it seems to work better everywhere. 1.41 seemed to have more noise than the version I am currently using regardless of where I was.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] simple:
1.41 or 1.40 Hmmm...

I have downgraded from 1.41 to 1.40.

The 3G connection is very very low now; I think the difference between the two is minimal and "probably" each is optimised for a particular setting.

That may explain the many missed calls. I will go back to 1.41 or wait a couple of weeks when HTC releases it's WM6 ROM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] joej:
I have gone to 1.40 now and my connections seems back to normal now
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] silverfox0214:
Rollback

I, too, have rolled back to 1.40.30.00. Incoming calls were dropping, thought it was BT first. Happens without, so concluded 1.41.00.10 was the culprit.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
Actually, I had not known that people were being dropped even before my phone rang. I was told they were getting messages that my phone no longer on the network. Since switching back to 1.40.30.00, I am not getting any complaints. 1.41 must have some strange behaviors depending on where we are.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Acuum2:
Is there a comparison chart?

I'm still on my varioII stock radio radio rom

1.05.05.00

seems a LONG way below this newest one.

can anyone let me know if its worth upgrading to this and why?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
The best reason is because it fun to do it. Just watching the couter tick off is a blast. Waiting patiently for the upgrade to finish is a bit scary. And when the thing reboots and says it it finished, you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

The less important reason is because these radios should prove more adept at switching between the voice and data networks. I think you probaly have figured out by now that 1.40.30.00 seems better than 1.41 for most people who are responding. Also, where you live and what carrier you are on makes a big difference. I strongly recommend upgrading to 1.40.30.00 and I would be very surprised if you are not happier with it than with 1.05.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] vulkanxxv:
Just now updated to 1.41.xx.xx

GREAT!

Usually in this position i take only GPRS signal.

Now i've 3G!!!

GREAT
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
I am curious. Is your voice signal as clean or dirtier than with an older version? Also, are you getting all your calls?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kipe:
anybody from malaysia tried this radio ROM? what's your take with regard to this (regardless if you are on DIGI, Maxis or Celcom)

I am subscribed to Celcom 3G (Unlimited Voice + Data) and has tried this radio, 1.40 & 1.38 ..seems to me 1.38 is the best for my usage (data & voice) with almost no problem with regard to drop calls etc. ..1.40 came in second place & I found out that 1.41 have issues as enumerated by members herein..

appreciate the feedback.. :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] duttythroy:
very impressed

I am very impressed with this radio after reading so much negative feedbacks.

I am from the united kingdom on T-Mobile and I must say my battery life has never been better and even better reception when handling calls. I ahvent soft reset for 4 days unless i want to and my available is always between 24-27 ram

Im loving it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kipe:
yes, with regard with battery life, this radio is impressive, I agree with u there bro.. but my issues here in malaysia is drop calls..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] vulkanxxv:
Voice is perfect

Yes, no call loosed
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mbn:
I had a few dropped calls today IN NYC during very sensitive discussions. Thinking about going to 1.40...

The radio has been pretty good, but I went right from 1.34 to 1.41 and never tested 1.40. I think it's time to try it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
Funny. I went back to 1.41 today to retry it. I found it to be better in NYC than 1.40. It could be the network that is dropping calls and not the phone. Cingular is really bad in the greater NYC area. That is where I use my Verizon phone.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mbn:
Very helpful post. Since going to 1.41 the G/3G switching is a lot better than it used to be in my office in midtown. Maybe it was the network in NYC today. I travel a lot and 1.41 has been awesome in every city I've been since the move: SF, Boston, Orlando, LA, Atlanta (standing right next to Cingular HQ, of course).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
I found the same thing you are finding with the notable exception of Phoenix. I had to go back to 1.40 to get reliable service there. But I also sense that 1.41 is a bit noisier than the other versions. So far, the best version I experienced for voice was 1.38, then 1.40, then 1.41. While the data keeps getting better, the voice seems to be suffering a bit with each new release.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] krknl:
very good signal

Around Logan airport while driving in the big dig tunnel, I get all four bars and 3G... even at the lowest/deepest point in the tunnel with this Radio. :) ..... Why dont it give me atleast 2 bars in my office :mad: slowly I am facing noise in my voice calls at office.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] micwk:
hi kipe, i'm on 1.40 now using DiGi (unlimited data plan) and has some issues regarding this ROM, during calls i would sometimes has static disturbances and echo-like sound effect, when i was using the 1.41 rom, i dont have these issues but the battery seems to drain very fast, but i'll update the 1.41 rom with the latest LVSW rom. hopefully this time the battery wont drain like the previous version of LVSW rom.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Vision77:
So far so good...

I have an unlocked 8525 on Tmob USA in Chicago. I have seen an overall increase in signal strength and data speed. Can't wait until us Tmob US users get 3G.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kipe:
thanks for the feedback bro.. :D

1.41 & 1.40 ROM were released for the American users if I am not mistaken for Cingular or is it AT&T? ..& as such was tweaked to suit the dual-band UMTS for 3G (operates on 850 & 1900 MHz) while we in Malaysia are relying on UMTS at 2100MHz band ( considered to be one of the least favourable band for transmission. The main reason is related to coverage as 2100MHz signals propagate shorter distance than 900MHz) Users in North America and Australia use dual-band UMTS for 3G, which operates on 850MHz and 1900MHz. I believe we in Malaysia, follow Europe's guidelines & as such we have our 3G operate on 2100MHz band and may not be that compatible with 1.41 or 1.40 radio
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] SPSP:
2100Mhz UMTS

Here in Czech (middle european area) we have 2100Mhz band. I am using 1.41 radio and everything is O.K till now.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kipe:
yes.. not denying there.. in terms of batt life, data connection & all.. :) love the radio but my qualm over here in Malaysia (with our local network provider) is due to drop calls..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] niekth:
This radio didn't work for me. Calls dropped and people immediately got my voicemail, even when I had full signal. I couldn't use Google Maps anymore. Everytime I scrolled the map I got a time-out error.

My operator is T-Mobile (Business), Netherlands
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mrvanx:
Double check against the ROM you are using, quite possible that something is accessing data whilst the phone is in use???
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] niekth:
When I removed my data connection it didn't help. Especially in the morning people where unable to call me. When I make my first phone call that day, the problem is fixed. So everyday I have to call my voicemail or something otherwise people can't call me.

I didn't check with a different ROM (I'm now using the LVSW 05-19 ROM). If you mean I should also check it with a different ROM, Black 3.0.1 for example, then I've to admit I didn't check it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Ch@rly:
I have a bug of functioning, which deactivates me the telephone.

Result, while the telephone is according to me active, my correspondents fall directly on my messaging. When I want to call, the telephone remains blocked on "Numbering", then at the end of about twenty seconds, that passes on " ended call 0:00 "

It is necessary to pass by the mode "Plane" then "Telephone" to reactivate it or with a Soft Reset.

That bug is random, but at least once a day.

Does somebody have same the bug? If I want to try to put a Rom Radio older to test, which do you advise me? Thank you ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mbn:
I downgraded to 1.40 last night. The dropped calls were too frequent on 1.41 so I had to see if 1.40 will be better.

First thing I noticed using 1.40 is that battery life for me on 1.41 was a little better (usually 60-70% at end of normal work day but today using 1.40 it was 50%), but I had fewer dropped calls today using 1.40.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] singrysweets:
I just installed it yesterday. I will be traveling from the bronx to brooklyn today where i will test it... theres usually one dead spot, i'll see what this baby does later. have some faith people.... i do.