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[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t4d73:
I'm in the same boat as you man. This is the 1st device I haven't rooted in many years. The main reason that I'm not is I'm on the easy pay plan so in one years time I walk in to sprint, hand them this, pay the taxes which are next to nothing, and walk out with the note 5. So long as I don't mess with it. Which btw so far if you do root you will trip Knox and currently there is no way to reverse it. I'm kinda ok with it with this device though as I had the Note 2 before this running cm11 and while it was good something always went wrong somewhere. I'd take a pic and the phone would freeze or something and never ended up getting the pic/vid so it's kinda nice having a device as good as this and everything actually works.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeepers128:
I didn't or haven't yet added $10.00 early upgrade option to my account. Frankly I forgot about it until you mentioned it.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Solarenemy68:
To my knowledge tripping KNOX does not affect your upgrade eligibility. The policy simply says the phone must still be in good condition. That is all. They just want to be able to sell it a refurb and they can actually have it sent to Samsung and have KNOX reset. It can be done with JTAG equipment and knowing which bit needs to be flipped.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t4d73:
Maybe. But they did say they cannot accept a rooted device. Whether or not they actually knew what they were talking about I don't really know. But there are ways to bring it back to stock though.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GhostAssassin:
I'm on the easy pay plan

I rooted the same day i got it :p

Nothing to be afraid of sprint doesn't check if you're rooted or not

Sent from my SM-N910P using JellyBombed Tapatalk 2
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tjward5489:
I'm a technician for Sprint and it isn't that big of a deal since we can just flash it all back to stock. And for upgrade purposes the reps in my store don't even know what rooting is so it shouldn't be a huge issue for that either.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t4d73:
Thanks. That's good to know. I've rooted and flashed many custom roms for years but never really knew that end of it. What about the KNOX tripping thing? I thought I heard before here on xda of people all of a sudden getting whacked with a $400 or so hit on their bills because they messed with their devices. Any insight on that? Or is that a non issue these days?
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeepers128:
I've not heard that charge before.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t4d73:
Yeah I'm not even sure how true that is. I think I'm gonna root tonight. If anything I'll at least be able to get rid of all the damn ads on this thing. That's one of the most annoying things about not being rooted. Lol.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeepers128:
I think I am going to root it too!
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t4d73:
Just make sure you know how to fix/solve issues should they arise.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeepers128:
What problems are you talking about? I've rooted a lot of phones over the years. Just wasn't sure about knox. Otherwise it was a go!
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] millerboy3:
rooting itself causes no problems. -_- Problems arise when you start using titanium backup or removing apks manually, and you don't know EXACTLY what they do. Many resources out there will tell you, and sometimes a friendly question in a thread may solve your problems quickly. One good lol for you is : If you use xposed thats typically going to get blamed first for your issues xD
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t4d73:
What he said. ^^
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkyeTheGuy:
Im a sales rep at a sprint store and I can say with certainty that we do not check to see if a phone is rooted when we do a giveback on them. honestly the only thing we check is if it turns on and if the screen is broken. most of us wouldn't care regardless, ive even given advice on rooting to a few customers ive helped.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] millerboy3:
I learned about rooting long time ago from a service tech :)
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] planb234:
Just be ready to pay the premium.

I see it this way - you have to by insurance anyways. I could buy a house with what I have given Asurion over the years. If my phone goes down it costs $200 to get another. If I have to trade it in the claim will be for broken hardware. They will get enough pieces to identify what it was.

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The only problem I'm worried about is that I won't get my copy of 5.0 if I root before I get it. Is there a way around that?

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I think you are fine on a trade because the only reason you would need to trade is if it is not working. If it is for a repair it is going to be the hardware anyways. I've taken rotted phones in for repair and they didn't even know.

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Is there a way to bring it back to stock right now. I've never owned a phone this close to it's release date. I haven't had a chance to look in to what's out there yet. I want to root with just ADB and not use a recovery but I can't get the USB through with out superuser and if I did get him in there I think he would be dead before I could tell him about the Knox.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slaldrich:
question... Just to be sure...

I have been waiting to see the lollipop update before rooting my note 4.

But... if I were to root the phone (and add TWRP)... but did not install a new rom, would I still be able to get the OTA update from Sprint without issue? Will the OTA break root? Could the update brick my phone?
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chubby19865:
Alright Im also in the same boat as you guys. I been rooting phone since htc hero loll. Slow piece of **** lol. Anyway im scared of tripping knox and having a fear if anything happen to my phone like crack screen water damage etc. I have a best buy insurance and not sure if i do root it and best buy can still find out if my phone is rooted and my warranty is voided after that so waste of $12 a month. So what should I do?
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] planb234:
Always have back up in case of brick. You will have to full unroot for the ota. I'm in the same boot but don't think i ca an wait. You can always get the lollipop from a .tar instead of ota.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chubby19865:
Ah I would say you will break root and then you will have to wait for developers to find a way to root the new software update. You will still get OTA but you will have to do it manually.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] planb234:
I use sprint. I don't know about other carriers but you can't manual from sprint. It is random. I was hoping if i trip knox it will push to me earlier because they want to get rid of my control over their bloatware.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chubby19865:
When i mean manually i mean it doesn't do automatically update. You will have to go system update and check. Some times it works and sometimes it doesnt. I saw the new kernel just got release im tempted to root my phone man. I'm worried about the insurance doesn't work.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] planb234:
Your fine for insurance. Their the ones ripping us off. Asurion has no spyware in your phone. The only issue is with Samsung warranty and they didn't sell you the phone anyways. If i get warrantied it's through sprint.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] millerboy3:
You can use the KitKat root currently in other variants no problems. So unless the boot loader from lp magically comes to use locked from Sprint. Root is a no issue as the kk method still works.

If only it worked that way. :-/ you can manually tell the device to search, but while rooted it doesn't work most times.

Insurance doesnt care from sprint. As long as you dont turn in the phone with xnote or bobcat you shouldnt have any issues lol

I've always loved sprint because they never cared about root since the days when I had an OG Evo
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chubby19865:
So I should be fine rooting the note 4. I'm under best buy insurance. Just making sure.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schlepprock:
I returned two rooted S3s to Best Buy. One was a pile and the other had poor reception. And the geek squad guy never said anything.

EDIT.. I did a factory reset on it though, but was still rooted.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] millerboy3:
Rooting isn't the problem. Its the Knox being flagged I would watch out, at bb
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chubby19865:
So anyone ever trip knox and have the insurance work? And is there a way to root without tripping knox
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhill110:
Short answer : yes and no. Samsung DOES repair hardware warranty issues with Knox tripped. You'll be fine.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] millerboy3:
wait, what? you mean bb? :P
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhill110:
Well, samsung authorized centers do and I've seen posts about bb. Remember I'm talking about hardware failure here. The day I bought mine I had a pretty good talk with the guy helping me out. He talked me out of the bb insurance. To expensive if you need to use it. Hardware failure issues are fixed by samsung even with Knox tripped. I'll edit this post in a minute with a thread from the Tmobile forum. Very astonishing comments.

Here ya go. Interesting in deed :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2637718
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] planb234:
I couldn't wait anymore so I rooted using chains. After root as expected I no longer had the option to ota. Samsung said there was unathorized software changes on my device, try using keys. So I put my phone back to stock with keys 3.0. I am now able to OTA again.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhill110:
Good deal. Pretty simple stuff. One thing about these major updates is, it's usually a day or so until a dev makes a flashable zip of the ota. When it comes I'll flash (odin) back to stock to check it out and then wait until tx_dbs_tx works his magic on it.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] millerboy3:
I can't wait to work on "SmoothPop" and "NakedPop" those sound odd. I think I will be working on a new name lol
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhill110:
How bout smooth AND naked pop... Kinda sez it all about a rom.

:cool:
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] millerboy3:
Well thats actually 2 different ones :P They are both distinctively different ;)
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Polarwindz:
I rooted my Note 4, I have the protection plan , so if i just flash the original firmware I should be okay? And is it safe to keep on flashing roms if you have to turn your phone in and upgrade?
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t4d73:
It doesn't seem like anybody has the right answer to that question yet? Rooting trips the KNOX warranty that much we already know. But does Sprint actually care about that or is it just a Samsung thing or both? Does anyone know and if so how does it affect this discussion?
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schlepprock:
Sent from my Galaxy Note 4
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t4d73:
Yeah I should've asked all that differently. Looks like a few people have different answers. I guess if I walk into the sprint store and try to trade in for an upgrade it's probably going to all depend on the luck of the day and hopefully I should be able walk out with note 5 without issue next year if I root now. Guess we'll see.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhill110:
Ok, here's the skinny... Samsung, sprint & BB have and do take phones back/warranty per members here at XDA. Hardware repair issues have nothing to do with knox... Were you might run into trouble is if you really hard brick your phone flashing or whatever. If the home button or volume rocker or any hardware issue comes up, it will be fixed or replaced. I've seen a couple of posts were the phone came back with Knox back at 0x0... Untripped. So don't fret...

Oh, if you walk into sprint next year wanting to trade in and the phone boots and works they won't trip. I did my $200 trade in at BB with the gf's old S3 that had a shot speaker and Knox tripped. They only care that it booted. That's my story and I'm stick'n to it. ?
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chubby19865:
Thank you Jhill for answering my question. Ill be rooting my note 4 tonight.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t4d73:
Thanks man. Now if we could only just come up with a way to reset Knox wouldn't that be great? Then again Samsung would probably come up with a way to shoot down pretty quick with whatever method we draw up. It was so nice in the old days with triangle away wasn't it?
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] millerboy3:
Pffft knox. Tripped mine asap, and on my wife's device didn't even let the service tech that handed me the box turn it on. Plugged it in the old laptop at my aunts house 5 mins away and tripped it. This is on 2x note 4's and also includes a note 3. I was fortunate with her s4 and kept the pre-knox boot loader.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] awilson77584:
Is there any reason to wait until Lollipop ships in my area (Houston, TX?) I'm not getting the LTE numbers I see quoted in this forum. The best I've seen in 35 Mbps down. My thought is to get lollipop and see if it improves. If not, then call Sprint to see if there is an adjustment. Then, I'm planning to root.

TIA.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] millerboy3:
If thats your process. I wouldn't bother waiting. Call sprint now, I am not sure just how much it will matter. Good idea would be to ask on the international forums and ask if they experienced better data in general. Its not guarranteed that ours will be better, but they very well could have optimized things a bit.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samep:
[URL ] http://support.knowroaming.com/hc/en-us/articles/201644044-BACK-HOME-VERIZON-SPRINT-CDMA- [/URL]

If you're on Sprint Everything Data or unlimited data, try opening dialer and dial *720, the phone will dial, make adjustments and hangup. Don't think it requires root.

Otherwise, it's *38 in the dialer.

I came across the article and asked the question in the development forum but didn't get an answer. Anyway, it may fix slow data, possibly without rooting, but I'd also suggest updating data profile and pro, first.

It's a quick fix; let us know if it improves your data speed or no change.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] awilson77584:
Those codes are for "Call Forwarding." Glad I check before following things. Sniff test. Thanks though. Cheers
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkManX4lf:
That link doesn't work.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samep:
Sorry, I tried to fix that but it only seems to work copy/paste in open browser

support.knowroaming.com/hc/en-us/articles/201644044-BACK-HOME-VERIZON-SPRINT-CDMA-

Try copy/paste the link above. Thanks for telling me. Was wondering if I was the only one having that issue.

Call me crazy but that's not what the link described it as. Not trying to waste anyone's time with foolery. It didn't forward my calls or ask for a forwarding number.

Edit: OK, I see where you got that. It turns off call forwarding. The last part seems to be the part I was after. It refers to APN Global roaming for Sprint everything data users. You do need root to edit APN; otherwise it's grayed out.

Must not have read that. Sorry to waste your time.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] awilson77584:
Not a waste of time. XDA is a great forum for idea sharing. A sincere thx!
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lilram:
I have had my galaxy s4 serviced by sprint with knox tripped and rooted as i walked in and they did not say anything about it. Also i have talked to sprint before hand and they said the sprints insurance will still cover rooted phones.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] planb234:
So I've had time to play with the note 4. It is possible to take it back to full stock and reset the knox counter to 0.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] millerboy3:
Full stock yes. Knox no
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] planb234:
Mine was at 4 and now it is at zero. Am i missing someting? Are you talking about a secret counter they have in the ram or something?

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Hu b

Yes sir Chainfire has the answer for you. For $2.49 you can purchase Chainfire's Triangle Away. Then reset your phone to stock with Odin and it will look like a virgin.

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Hu b

Yes sir Chainfire has the answer for you. For $2.49 you can purchase Chainfire's Triangle Away. Then reset your phone to stock with Odin and it will look like a virgin.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] millerboy3:
This is incorrect. This does NOT set the knox flag to 0x0. IT WILL REMAIN 0x1 after its rooted/custom kernel/custom recovery etc. All you have done was reset the flash counter itself that sits next to the knox counter. You can however odin the stock tar to you phone to make everything else look official. But once knox is flagged, its flagged for good.
[One (M7) General] bbmaster123:
Hey everyone! just wanted to share my experience so far.

I got an HTC One m7 last year, and I love almost everything about it, except it began to develop the pink camera tint. For those who don't know, many m7's have a manufacturing/design defect that causes the camera to slowly degrade, and as a result, all low light pics come out with a pink or purple haze across the image.

I took my phone over to the bell store, where I signed a couple documents, and the rep sent the phone over to the repair center. The phone was in "Like-New" condition, and still in warranty.

I waited about a week, and today I got an email telling me that the repair facility was refusing to repair the phone citing physical damage (there was none, maybe a micro scratch!), and to get it back they would charge a $35 diagnostic fee. I don't even really care about the fee (although there shouldn't be one) I just want my phone fixed.

I called Bell and they escalated the issue and told me someone from the repair center would call me in 24-72 hours. They wouldn't give me a number to call, so now I have no choice but to play the waiting game...
[One (M7) General] grigoriisi:
Well u are not in USA. I had couple of devices with this deffect fixed under warranty even when warranty was expired. Call the consumer support number in your country and talk to them and tell them u have done your homework and this is a well known deffect and it should be taken care by them. Or wait maybe they will call.I never deal with carriers in this situation s call directly the manufacturer. Good luck.
[One (M7) General] bbmaster123:
Well, its been a while now, and it looks like I may have to send the phone to HTC since Bell are a bunch of ********. I eventually got a call, but it wasn't from the repair center, it was from USA's tech support, and the gentleman told me he had no idea what was going on, and that he couldn't help me at all, nor could he offer any type of recourse, or contact information for someone that may be able to help. I am very displeased as you can probably see. Anyway, I wrote HTC a letter complaining about their service. Here's what I wrote to them for your amusment:

Hello,

I recently sent my phone in to repair it's camera that wasn't working correctly. I was denied the repair, citing physical damage (I have documentation from the Bell store stating otherwise) and the device has now been marked down to be shipped back without the repair, when I did not give my consent, nor talk to anyone who had any bit of control over the repair process. I am very displeased at the service that has been given to me, as well I do not appreciate being lied to, or cheated out of the repair I am entitled to.(the phone's camera issue is a widely documented factory defect, just search Google or call HTC about the m7 pink camera issue). As well, I am appalled at how Bell has tried its hardest to evade my asking for help, instead pointing fingers at other divisions of the company and telling me to go talk to them. And finally, I would have liked to call the repair center, or visit the facility directly as I understand it is fairly close to me, but the information I have been seeking was kept secret from me. If you listen to the recording of the support call I made last week, you will hear the agent telling me that the company actively tries to withold this information.

I WANT MY PHONE REPAIRED. Not returned defective. If my phone is returned defective, you can be sure I will not renew my contract with Bell, ever.

Brandon Benyacar

I can only hope they read this letter sooner than later. Anyway, that's my repair experience so far. Lesson learned: Don't by a phone right away, let a few months go by and see if any major problems turn up. also, note to self: Buy extended warranty.

I may post one more time if anything else worth sharing happens. Have a good day everyone!
[One (M7) General] PandorasNL:
I'll also post my experience with the purple tint problem. Got my phone in may/june 2013 and got the purple tint somewhere around september 2013. Over time, it got worse in dark settings, but as the phone was still ok during daylight, never bothered too much. This year I finally took the effort to get it fixed. I contacted HTC europe (as I live in the Netherlands) about the problem and they said to just make an appointment; if I had caused the problem, I had to pay 35 euros research costs and if I agreed, an additional fee for the repairs.

As I rooted the phone like a month after I got it (unlocked through HTC dev website), I was kinda 'scared' they would say that would be the cause, but I followed all wonderful steps here to get it S-OFF and in locked/untampered state again and send it off. Made the appointment (UPS came to pick it up) and after a few days I got the email it was ready and repaired. Today (after about 10 days) they delivered the phone back. No charge at all.

So my experience with HTC customer support is fairly positive at the moment. Purple tint is indeed gone. Sadly, my original phone was just fixed and not swapped for an M8, but still no complaints about their service.
[One (M7) General] bbmaster123:
Glad to hear everything worked out for you. I contacted HTC a few days back and explained what happened and they said they would be happy to repair my phone at no cost, and agreed with me about Bell's repair process being all sleazy. I just need to wait until my phone gets shipped back from Bell's repair center first.

I think I read somewhere that sometimes HTC will put in a higher quality camera module. do you notice the picture being better than the original? (before the purple tint started)

I really don't want my phone to be swapped for an m8, I like the m7 better. slightly smaller, capacitive buttons, and a more symmetrical speaker grille. Not to mention its super easy to s-off. though I might not mind if they give me an M9! HAHA