yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[ONE General] Kipp34:
I originally came from a Nexus 5, and I agree that for general day to day use I would rather have the Nexus 5 camera. OIS makes a huge difference, and the google camera software works well, however it is quite limited when it comes to features (like setting exposure times and what not, this is where the OPO camera is better). Really not surprised that the iPhone 6+ delivers the best results all around, as this was the consensus among internet reviews.

I honestly think that the OPO's camera performance is moreso a result of poor software optimization more than anything (other than the lack of OIS). I have used CM for previous phones (samsungs, HTC) and I always found picture quality to be worse on CM than on stock software. And for those bashing the comparison, if you are gonna call yourself a "flagship killer", be prepared to be compared to said flagships.
[ONE General] lordneopt:
A bunch of crap.

Had a N5 before and the picture quality can't compare. Learn to take pics and don't blame the lack of OIS.

The OPO camera is one of the best ones on Android's out there. Everyone say's that, but there is always some lame cheap ass with a lame crappy test trying to prove everybody is wrong.

And yes my opinion is not gonna change based on biased tests. I had two of the devices compared up there and clearly the N5 camera is a piece of crap on quality.

IPhone > Top tier Samsungs > OPO > lots of devices > Nexus
[ONE General] podspi:
I feel like saying "learn to take pics" doesn't make sense - if the OP doesn't know how to take pics, their incompetence is constant over all devices ... in which case the comparison is still valid :highfive::cool:
[ONE General] MarkusLi:
I didn't come here to defend the OPO camera, I've made a bunch of ****ty pictures with it myself, but in this test I actually like the OPO pictures the most. I downloaded them to check if maybe it's only because I'm looking at a downsized version, but even so they really seem the best.

I actually think this is one of the most OPO favoring comparisons I have seen.

You did name them correct, right?
[ONE General] .psd:
Ya they're named properly, I was very careful about that (I'm sure the metadata will confirm as well). Anyway you seem reasonable, you even gave the pictures a close inspection; and I'm not here to fight either, so I'm curious whether you feel the OPO outperformed objectively (and if so, where), or if you just like its pictures best subjectively?

Off topic: I've done the iPhone 4s pictures too now, I'll upload them tomorrow. Spoiler alert: 4s does a damn fine job for a 3.5 year old phone without HDR on a 2.5 year old OS (I keep it on iOS 6 because **** an iPhone 4s on iOS 7 or higher). Figured I'd do it for the haters saying its unfair to compare the OPO to newer, more expensive devices.
[ONE General] .psd:
UPDATE

Updated each gallery to include the iPhone 4s (on iOS 6)!

People were complaining that the flagship killer shouldn't be compared against a flagship phone from the same year, so I brought out a 3.5 year old phone with a sensor almost half the size, running 2.5 year old camera software (I keep it on iOS 6). Enjoy!

Indoors person:

In this shot the OPO (13MP) results are almost identical to the Nexus 5 (8MP, older), as they both capture less detail than the 4s (check the stitching of the chair or my striped shirt) while delivering better color accuracy.

Indoors Fine Detail:

The 4s captures better detail (see the barcode on the chapstick, the graininess on the table and especially on the Nexus 5, and the detail on the words "shift" and "return" on the keyboard). 4s also provides more accurate (less yellow) color here.

Great Lighting:

OPO has better color here, straight up. But instead of having almost double the detail (as you would expect from a sensor with almost twice the resolution in a perfectly lit scene) it has literally the same amount of detail as the 4s.

Landscape:

There were less clouds today during this shot so the comparison isn't perfect. The 4s captures better detail in the trees, but that could be due to more sun. Otherwise, the detail is identical between the iPhone 4s's 3.5 year old 8MP sensor and the OPO's fairly new 13MP sensor (interestingly the Nexus 6 uses the same sensor). The fact that the OPO delivers the same detail as the iPhone 4s in this shot can't be blamed on more sunlight in the 4s shot since it's clear by now (pun intended) that the OPO's software consistently uses its sensor to deliver the detail of 8MP cameras.
[ONE General] podspi:
The main takeaway I take from this is wow, the Nexus 5 did well.

That camera came so far from its initial disappointing release.
[ONE General] dakine:
I took a quick look. The OPO really did much better in the outdoor shot. The iPhone has nasty sharpening artifacts and it really lacks detail. Look at the chimney in the HDR shot, you can barely see the bricks. It's obvious that OPO has a tendency to favor the shadows when metering. Use "frame average" metering and it will probably look very similar to the iPhone.

I'm not sure why the indoor shots are so terrible. Maybe it's a noisy sensor and OPO applies tons of noise reduction. The optical stabilization should allow the 6+ to use a lower ISO and thus have an advantage in dark scenes. That desk looks pretty bright though.
[ONE General] MarkusLi:
Well I just started looking at them without checking which photo was taken with what camera and actually at first I suspected that you used the iPhone6 to take the pictures that were actually taken with N5. Really surprising, taking into account that the phone(N5) has got a lot of bad rep for the camera. I also got the iPhone6 and OPO pictures messed up, because I'm used to seeing OPO colors often washed out. That's the main thing actually: I liked OPO better because I liked it's colors a lot more. In some cases, the picture of the kid for example, I liked the N5 more though.

Landscape: I mean the sky on the iPhone pics is nice , but the grass is a greenish-grayish mass. OPO distorts the colors a bit, but I prefer that (I might actually even like it a bit)

Great lighting: on the iPhone the edges are washed out and contrast is bad - I mean just look at the iPhone photo and then Nexus Auto or OPO google Auto.

Indoors person: Here it's a minor problem. The iPhone has this "gray glow" (I don't know how to explain it, look at the armrests). Nexus overdoes it with the contrast, but OPO is nice.

Indoors fine detail: iPhone seem to have a thing for making pictures grayish. OPOs HDR sucks hard, but it tends to do that almost all the time anyway.

I remember having looked at several photo comparisons, but I don't remember such unimpressive colors on iPhone6 photos. Usually I look enviously at the iPhone photos and think "Such lively colors!", but not today.

Then I downloaded them and checked the detail, which unsurprisingly was better on the OPO because of the higher resolution. I did that mostly just to see if you haven't messed up the names, because usually I wouldn't care if I can distinguish blades of grass on a photo taken with a phone. Although it's occasionally nice if you can.

Having looked at the 4S pictures now I'm actually amazed that if I don't zoom in more than I feel is reasonable on a phone photo, It takes better pictures than the 6S in my view. At least outside. The picture with the kid was worse on 4S.

It's all my subjective opinion on photos made by phones though and I'm no professional.

I can say though that if they always compared like that, I'd be really proud of the OPO camera, but I've made too many bad pictures with it to hope that.
[ONE General] .psd:
Fair is fair. I think you gave a reasonable review.

I still maintain that the iPhone produces incredibly accurate colors (and reviewers agree), and the reason other pictures look "better" is because our eyes naturally prefer some extra contrast and saturation. iPhone can't do that though because it has a reputation to uphold for being accurate, and of course people are free to adjust pictures in post.

Again, fair review though, and I'd imagine many if not most people would agree. If nothing else, I agree that the Nexus 5 is outstanding, and I find it odd that it has such a poor reputation when I can only think of a few times I wasn't able to get a great shot with it point-and-shoot style. It does have a super annoying purple halo around the center, but it's not apparent in any of these pictures.
[ONE General] k@ke:
Having used iphone 3gs, 4 and 5 and now OnePlus One. I think, that OPO is amazing phone all in all, but the camera (app) really sucks to me too. It's slooooow and it's almost imposible to get a sharp picture of my one year old son, that is moving around a lot. No problem with that, if i take pictures with my wifes iPhone 5C.

Same thing in the gallery app... Grazy slow and laggy for some reason. Other than that, i'm really happy about this phone.
[ONE General] jonathanlyng:
impressive

it appears in each condition that 6plus auto is the best option, hands down.

opo and nexus are quite far behind in overall quality but the opo plus google is better than the in house app!

BTW: I never take photos with the opo, phone cameras are phone cameras, I seldom take pics so I tend to value each quite a lot,AFAIK nothing beats a camera with a big area sensor and enough space between lenses to let light do it's thing.
[ONE General] AcmE85:
If you still have the comparison shots, then please upload them. Other then that judging from OP's pictures the iPhone 6+ clearly wins in lowlight.

Anything else is just pure subjective if you ask me.

Also, if you or anyone else is happy with his device, why bother...
[ONE General] AcmE85:
Left one is OPO HDR, judging by the tinted color. Full resolution shots, uploaded somewhere else would be perfect because the are compressed and reduced in size here.
[ONE General] Stories:
The OPO is capable of taking better pictures than the N5. But I think the camera stack in the OPO is lacking which leads to some pictures (particularly in auto) are very hit or miss.

I've found that using the Google Camera on the OPO leads to more consistently good shots, although at the expense of shutter responsiveness. The image processing of the CM camera, is over aggressive and it ramps up the ISO far far too quickly.
[ONE General] Op3a:
I've used the Snap Camera HDR+, and had got georgeous results. The app is fantastic. The only downside is the UI. The one thing I love in iPhone camera (besides the fantastic quality of the photos) is the camera UI. If you want to make a slow motion capture, you just have to swipe left/right. In android, you have to go to option, Video, etc etc etc. But I cant complaint of the photos taken with Snap Camera, or the ColorOS camera.
[ONE General] MooNiSLe:
Try ColorOS, at least the camera ported from it.
[ONE General] joora:
Thanks for the comparison. I haven't been able to study all the examples, but I've took a look on the landscape examples.

If you observe closely, you will see that fine detail, as grass, wires on the small wooden support in the middle or the white fence on the right are noticabely better rendered on the photo taken with OPO (compared to iPhone 6). So, judging by your examples, your claim

is invalid. Now, I'm not saying that your other claims are faulty, but try to be more specific, and, more importanly, more objective in your evaluation. I'm sure iPhone 6 camera beats OPO's in several segments.

cheers.

EDIT: providing actual comparison of the landscape details between iphone6 and OPO, using OP's unaltered jpg's, saving as png to avoid artefacts.
[ONE General] .psd:
No you're right, in that shot the OPO does capture better detail. But that's why I said generally. Generally, most shots aren't outdoors and well lit; generally, I point and shoot and don't want to really try to steady my hands like I have to with the OPO. Now, compare every other shot for detail:

- the picture of the bush is identical as far as detail (except it captures less detail in the shadows), so the OPO doesn't win for detail there.

- the iPhone captures better detail on the keyboard and ChapStick in the computer shot.

- the iPhone does a good job of capturing the detail of the lines on my shirt in the background of the shoot with a human, while it's kind of a blurry mess on the OPO.

My assessment remains that the OPO software treats the camera like an 8MP sensor, as the detail is largely indistinguishable if not worse than the detail captured by other 8MP sensors. The only time shots look like they use the full 13MP is in Clear Image mode, which is worthless because it takes years to take pictures in that mode. A shame, because Samsung has optimized their software well--look at the detail captured by a Note 4 compared to a 6 Plus, and those shots capture instantly (I owned a Note 4 for awhile), demonstrating that high resolution cameras can use their full resolution and capture shots instantly that compete with the iphone, if only the software is written well.
[ONE General] lsl640:
Color OS camera still the best app out there for photo
[ONE General] served24:
I second this. Flash the app and it's plug-ins and the 50mp camera options makes day and night differences to the opo
[ONE General] lsl640:
How to get the 50MP option ?
[ONE General] joora:
Again, you cannot say "generally", because you can shoot outside and inside and both can be in good light or dim light. For some people (maybe not you), most shots are outside in well lit conditions.

- the picture with the bush gives a slight edge to OPO regarding detail, you can zoom to the leaves and compare. Also, I'm not familiar with the operation of auto mode in iphone 6, but seeing how there is almost no difference between samples for auto and HDR mode for the iphone, I would dare to conclude that iphone turned on HDR mode for that shot.

- yes, the iphone captures better detail of in the indoor shot, but at the expense of shutter speed (because it uses optical stabilization). Therefore, any moving subjects would be a blurred mess in those conditions (according to image metadata, the shutter speed was 1/15 for the iphone, while it was much more acceptable, although not ideal, 1/33 for OPO)

Therefore, we could conclude that iphone6 beats OPO when shooting static subjects in dim light. Any other conclusion based on these samples would be wrong.

Best option is using camera (and phone) which work best for you and your needs. In the last year I've had probably the best camera in a smartphone (Lumia 1020), but ditched it because of the hump for LG G2. LG had really good camera, but also a very breakable LCD glass. Moto X (2013) that came after had a medicore camera at best, and in OPO I've finally found a great combo in build quality, performance, battery life and imaging capabilities. Only thing missing is optical stabilization. IMO, no camera software can match simple, yet powerful 1020's camera app, but ability to shoot in RAW and killer options for video recording are making OPO a viable option for me.
[ONE General] .psd:
Well actually if it was labeled HDR, it was HDR. Also, which camera is superior isn't a matter of my opinion; almost universally, reviews speak poorly of the OPO camera and speak wonders of the iPhone 6 (and even better of the 6 Plus) camera. Further, I've taken more shots than I can count with both, and the 6 Plus is better by orders of magnitude. It takes better point and shoot shots 9/10 times, ESPECIALLY of non-still indoors subjects contrary to your expectations (for example my niece's birthday party the other day, where I had to retire the OPO in favor of an old iPhone 5s because the OPO was just worse than useless and the 5s pictures were actually really good). Naturally therefore, we would expect the iPhone to have better reviews, and in fact that is the case. On the other hand, of the dozens of OPO reviews I've seen on youtube, I don't think I've seen one that spoke favorably of it's camera. It's just bad, and at it's VERY BEST it just matches the quality of 8MP cameras.

Don't get me wrong, the OPO can take good pictures. But I mean, the iPhone 4s can take good pictures, so the fact that a camera "can take good pictures" doesn't really make it a great camera, and doesn't make it's pictures more favorable more often. Anyone who thinks the OPO is, overall, even remotely as good as the 6 Plus hasn't owned both, or has avoided checking reviews.
[ONE General] Renosh:
What's the point of this thread if when someone refutes your analysis of the images you make statements like the quote above? [MENTION=3476979]joora[/MENTION] made some very good points using YOUR images. Using bandwagon arguments by including other reviewers opinions doesn't really add value to your claims. This is why I told you it's not useful doing comparisons. You aren't really bringing anything new to the table with this supposedly honest review
[ONE General] .psd:
This isn't an "honest review". I stated openly, and repeatedly that, having bought the OPO and found it's pictures to be quite ****ty, I did the comparison for myself to compare the objective results side by side. I published the results not as an "honest review", but as exactly what I stated it to be. In any event, the objective content of the pictures are one thing and I've commented at length about them. The OPO does not perform better, it performs ON PAR at best, and worse the rest of the time. And don't ignore that I've given the OPO credit where it's due. But the pictures are just one thing.

My opinion is a different thing. My opinion is what you're complaining about. I'm not bothered though, because I actually own both phones and if I wasn't confident before assuring myself with an objective comparison, I'm certainly confident after having used the OPO extensively and found it to not only take poor shots most of the time, but to take poor shots when I needed it most—at my niece's birthday party, where I had to completely abandon it for an old iPhone 5s that took consistently better pictures. And, to be absolutely clear, this isn't just my experience. Like I said, the OPO almost universally gets poor reviews, because it's actually pretty bad, and iPhones—not even just the 6 Plus, but especially the 6 Plus—almost universally get good reviews, because it consistently produces good to great shots, with no effort, almost every time.

You're making things up. My analysis was not refuted, nor can it be. If someone wants to offer their subjective opinion, as several have, then that's one thing. But the OPO is objectively inferior, or at best on par, and where I've commented about that it hasn't been refuted. And you're ignoring that I did agree with him that the OPO captured more detail in that shot. It's utterly untrue that the OPO captures more detail more of the time, though.
[ONE General] joora:
OPO is not the best camera in the phone on the market, but neither is iphone's 6 camera.

Judging by your own images, OPO easily matches and surpases iphone's 6 imaging capabilities in good light. It absolutely captures more details more of the time in those conditions, without significant difference in dynamic range. Therefore, it can be concluded that OPO performs better than iphone6 in optimal conditions, at least regarding to captured detail. More samples are needed for color accuracy comparisons.

In low light OPO captures less details, but has faster shutter speed. Therefore we can conclude that it has worse image quality compared to iphone 6 in low light conditions.

cheers.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Unbenannt0412:
Hello,

I have a rooted One m7, running ARHD 4.4.3.

I was messing around with my gps.conf because I couldn't get a proper GPS fix. I downloaded the gps.conf for Europe, Austria (because I live in Austria). The fix was working, I got a fix in between 3-5 seconds (even in my apartement), was connected to few satellites etc, but the GPS was still not very precise, because it was jumping around sometimes (in the game called 'Ingress'), so I tried another gps.conf, this time it was a gps.conf for Europe (not specific austria, I mean whole Europe in general).

After I put the european gps.conf, I'm expieriencing serious issues. I downloaded GPS Status & Toolbox to check my satellites/overall GPS connection and the built-in GPS icon of the app GPS Status & Toolbox, and the GPS icon dissapears after 4-6 seconds from my status bar, but oddly enough, it's still 'searching for satellites' (in GPS Status & Toolbox) but I just can't get a satellite connection, no matter how long I wait. I re-downloaded the austrian gps.conf I had before, put it in the correct folder "etc", but it's still not finding satellites, it's still searching endless for a GPS connection... I thought the same Austrian gps.conf would fix it, but it didn't...

Here's the thread I grabbed the gps.conf's from (both austrian & europe):

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=953630

Btw, I've tried to delete the gps.conf, and suddenly I had a GPS/satellite connection! Oddly enough, It stopped working after I downloaded AGPS-data via GPS Status & Toolbox (I think, I'm not sure if this has to do something with AGPS-Data, but who knows...)

I would REALLY appreciate if someone could help me...

Regards

EDIT!!!

I just noticed there are two gps.conf's, one is located in "etc" and the other one in "system/etc".

Soooo... where should I copy the Austrian "gps.conf"? "system/etc" or "etc"?? Because I have a strong feeling It was all my fault, I always replaced it in "etc", not "system/etc".

Sorry, I know it's very confusing.. but can someone 1: tell me if there's an existing gps.conf in system/etc and/or in etc? I'd be forever grateful :)
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vortran:
/etc is a symbolic link to /system/etc

In English: They are one in the same. Two names that refer to exactly the same thing.
[Android Apps and Games] ClipartApps:
Heeey!

I just made a mini game for android, is not that detailed or big, but I think you guys will find it funny and even a bit addicted.

Read the description from the play store and give it a try, leaving me some feedback if possible!

And since Im new here, I can’t really leave a direct link, so to try it out you need search “unstable sheep” at the playstore and you will find an app with a pepper from clipart, sorry for the inconvenient guys :(

Hope you guys like and fair winds!! :D

Clipart
[Galaxy Note 4 General] L1k3ab055:
So I checked Kies for updates today, and looks like Sammy has gave a late valentines gift! This could have been released a while ago but i didn't notice it had.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DreamerTKM:
Ya and if u look at first page of general section, there are at least 5 similar threads that talking about lollipop
[Galaxy Note 4 General] POLO_i780:
Indeed.

And here's one that mentions 5.0 for N910S and other Korean models:

http://xdaforums.com/note-4/general/lollipop-update-sm-n910l-s-k-roll-t3028617
[Galaxy Note 4 General] malybru:
Mod Edit

As has been mentioned , there is already a thread on this

Thread closed

malybru

Forum Moderator
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] damianz:
Hey guys, im new to this whole seen and i recently unlocked the bootloader of and rooted my HTC one running 4.3. I wanted to this so i could update my phone since i dont have an att account. Basically whenever i connect my phone to my laptop it disconnects and connects quickly for multiple times. its like if someone was plugging the USB cable in and out, over and over, and over again.

Any help is appreciated, im really scared i screwed up my phone permanently. Also, im still S-On if that helps
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] majmoz:
Check FAQ #2 check the step for your drivers. Also, make sure FASTBOOT is diabled in POWER settings. If you haven't already enable USB Debugging in Developer's Option under Settings.