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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] archie87:
How would this work with customized UI's such as TouchWiz and Optimus UI?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] wmunn:
The best solution as enlightened users and fans of the android OS, is to only buy devices that are running the generic version of android on a non subsidized device, carrier independent and unlocked in full. This means choosing something like an HTC developer edition device, a google nexus device, or my personal choice due to the extreme value presented, a oneplus or other open source alternative device.

Break the cycle of carrier subsidized and controlled devices for good. There is nothing better than having full ownership and control of your personal electronics which you have paid good money to have.

We are all used to paying cell service prices that are higher than they need to be, simply to afford a pool of money the carrier uses to subsidize our handsets. Smartphones do NOT cost $199 to make and sell. The true cost out of pocket for the average smart phone today is somewhere between $500 and $1000 depending on how much storage and features are present. This cost rapidly dwindles to a resale value less than $200 in as little as 12 months of use. Think about that constant decay in value for such a short amount of time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] C0derbear:
On Mars.

:P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ButtonBoy:
I bought my S5 off contract, and both Samsung and AT&T have no way to send me an unencrypted boot loader. So I am screwed., and for that reason I'm done with Samsung. No matter how cool the S6 looks, I will never deal with this issue again.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] android4sunny:
If you bought it off contract, you should have gone for the international unlocked version.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Nyxerosoir:
Been checking this thread constantly everyday... I don't even want to make my phone the way I want it because I know I'm going to want to flash stock when I update... Come on AT&T just get me to 5.0 :rolleyes:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ButtonBoy:
If I had known about the locked BL, I would have. My mistake.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] TheeDesecrator:
Funny story to fill some time: I said something similar to this (ending my relationship with AT&T) on the AT&T forums and I got an e-mail saying that my post has been accepted as a solution, hahaha!!! Then AT&T bumped me up to the level of "tutor!"

So, as your tutor, get rid of AT&T as I will at the end of my contract.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Swimguy14:
Man I'm reading backwards through recent posts and I feel sorry for all of you guys who got this phone with AT&T.

You Should have gone with cricket...they are nationwide and owned by AT&T and have way better rates...not to mention the boot loader is unlocked! SIM unlock is available after 4 months..but you're on AT&T network so there's really no point.

Don't blame Samsung for your misfortune, it has nothing AT ALL to do with them...

Blame the carrier. The carriers choose to lock (or leave unlocked) the boot loader.

I wonder what the model# is for that...

At&t= g900a. Aka: klte-att

Cricket= g900az. Aka: klte-aio

International= ???????
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Rakuu:
International is g900f, and it is partly samsungs fault, they were the ones that provided the locked bootloader.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
I just bought a G900T running 5.0 and put my G900A up for sale. I do love having twrp but if it's of any consolation 5.0 is not much different than OA1 on the G900A. OA1 is just as smooth and stable.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jpcdeux:
So another "I heard from..." Fail
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] pre4speed:
Really? I'm with cricket and had no idea about this. Only thing is they don't have as big of a selection. This S5 I got thru the insights program but my Note 3 that I'll be going back to after this insights contract is up is mine. Too bad cricket doesn't offer that. Thanks for the info. Next time I decide I want a new phone, I'll for sure check that out.

What about custom recovery and ROM? Are any available for it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] rg3-save-our-city:
AT&T is being ridiculous. Can't say this is new for them though, given hpw they are always one of the last to give updates. Can't wait to escape my contract...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] CAG-man:
I must be the only person who thinks this is unusual. I used to ha e Verizon which always had updates last. I came to AT&T for faster updates. Which occurred until this update.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] KennyG123:
My AT&T S3 got the 4.4.2 update 4 months later than Sprint or T-Mo. Don't know about other manufacturers but they have always been way behind in OTAs on Samsung.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] elliwigy:
haha yea, and verizon was the first us carrier to update

Sent from my S5 running Extreme Syndicate v4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] CAG-man:
I was talking to a friend with Verizon S5 the day before the release and he was complaining how Verizon is always last with releases. We both felt dumb the next day when they released it, FIRST! lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jpcdeux:
Yeah. And it's bug ridden garbage
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] gnahc79:
I REALLY hope AT&T is being slow in order to deliver a fixed up build of Lollipop (5.0.1 or 5.0.2). IMO being first to get a new version of Android means being first to hit some bugs, some them pretty dang annoying:

http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...cial-Lollipop-Updates-are-On-Hold-due-to-Bugs

http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...tedly-put-hold-samsung-fixes-re-releases.html
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ezio.altair:
maybe its taking so long because of the lock bootloader ? i mean the other s5 with unlock bootloader received the 5.0 .. waiting to iron out bugs on lollipop sounds like a load of bs .. other than that overall happy with the s5 running kotor and nba2k15 with no lag : )
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MattC867:
The boot loader is locked, but ATT has the key. It is of zero hindrance to them.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] malickie:
Well it looks like I am done with Samsung after this debacle, I mean granted half of it is AT&T being a bunch of tools and not rolling out the software, I mean hell my Note 3 already has 5.0 with zero issues. The other reason Samsung is gonna be dead now is due to the release specs on the new S6....No Removable Storage, and no removable battery (Way to shoot yourselves in the foot)

Definitely done with AT&T after contract expires though. I mean I can pay $10 more for unlimited Everything on T-Mobile and that is including the phone prices plus T-Mobile is currently Not Locking Bootloaders on their phones which is a bonus...And faster updates lol. $146 for 200 MB of Data on AT&T or Unlimited Everything with T-Mobile for $156...hmmm
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cstayton:
what plan are you on with ATT that you are paying 146$ for 200mb? you must have your numbers mixed up, I am currently on the shared data plan with 5 devices and 30gb thats 6gb per line and i'm only paying 200$
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] malickie:
Mobile Share Value 300MB (thought it was 200MB but 100MB doesn't make much difference lol) with Rollover Data, 2 Lines one with this phone/Note 3 (Insights) the other with SGS Zoom.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] 49Nus:
After an hour on the phone with AT&T....

I was forced an update to 4.4.4 today, it wouldn't allow me to "remind later" any more and it was going to update in 30 seconds ready or not. So after update the email app would not authenticate and with repeated attempts to fix, the AT&T rep finally got a tech on it. What she said is 5.? was released last week. Due to some kind of a security update, to finish the install correctly, after the 24 hour recheck timer runs out, I have to recheck for an update and install it. SOOOOO maybe 5.whatever is here.

I just hope it doesn't cause anymore issues as I haven't had a chance to check the rest of the phone's function out yet.

Thought you guys would like to hear what I was told.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] malickie:
Nope not available. That Rep had no clue what they where talking about, or it Might be that it is only in select regions at the moment although I do doubt that as well. My guess is that the rep was thinking about the Note 3 possibly and mispoke as is usual for AT&T Reps in all honesty.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cybershawngates:
Well it probably means an eminent push of 5.0 is coming "soon" for which the prerequisite 4.4.4 needed to be installed on all phones.

they're just getting ready
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Swimguy14:
Nothing new there. Doesn't matter what company: call center employees will say whatever they think sounds good to the caller to appease them/get them to shut up.

"Lollipop? Yes, sir, one moment while I check on that.

((Doesn't have a clue what the big f3cking deal is with these people and a stupid update/wonders why it's called lollipop//doesn't actually try to find relevant info))

"Hello sir? I've just checked and it looks like lollipop will be in your area very soon, just sit tight and expect to see it within a few days! Kthxbye"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] CAG-man:
This combined with a recent update that Verizon is again releasing lollipop. This was reported on a number of sources including sammobile, but is as of yet unconfirmed in the Verizon threads.

I think with that news and if AT&T suddenly deploys lollipop for the S5 then they were waiting for some fixes from Samsung that are now ready. It seems a forced 4.4.4 update might lead credibility to this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] gnyland:
Not just 4.4.4. I have that issue almost daily, I'm rooted on 4.4.2.

911 probably ignores my # by now. Oh... that guy again....

I haven't found anyway to remove the emergency dialer from the pattern lock. I've recently installed the M$ next lock and our has helped "slightly".

SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using XDA Free mobile app
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MichaeLionheart:
Seriously.. where is this update at lol?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] skyrocketeer:
at this point I wouldn't even expect it anymore... 4.4.2 works well enough

5.0 wouldn't hurt..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mircony:
I honestly believe that we will get it but not until the S6 is released... I think they are using that as a selling point, after all AT&T is about money over user satisfaction.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] tailgunner9:
US Cellular got it today. As normal for AT&T to lang behind.

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/06/us-cellular-releases-android-5-0-1-for-the-galaxy-s5/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Nucleartx:
http://www.phonedog.com/2015/04/06/att-htc-one-m8-will-start-getting-android-50-tomorrow-april-7

M8 now getting it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mattucf:
F that. Come on...my s5 with 4.4.4 sucks. I'd go back to 4.4.2 but I want to be lazy. You fix the slowness and crap your unneeded update caused!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Sheldor1967:
Yeah, the issue for Verizon and ATT is probably more that they push themselves hard as being safe for Enterprise. Business to business will always go the safest path possible, no matter how slow it is. Look at how many companies are still running WinXP! T-MO has the whole Rebel without a contract thing going on, so they push on ahead.

I have a T-MO S5 and Lollipop is still buggy as well. Apps close, the battery usage is uneven due to periodic drain issues. The grass isn't as green as it appears...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] CAG-man:
Out of curiosity, how does this apply to 4.4.4 since it appears to also be a buggy release. I have seen many complaints about 4.4.4. I also experience many issues. If Im going have a buggy device I prefer to have the latest software, Samsung and Google prefers us to have the latest software.

I have read a lot that AT&T and Verizon like to keep things stable for one reason or another. Yet even Verizon was the first US company to release S5 lollipop and AT&T has not. With their competition they do a lot of mirroring (give or take a few policies). In this case they have not mirrored.

Personally having the latest software is how I work. This is also how many software companies work. Keep the latest and we will keep squashing bugs. Winblows anyone? Windows in notorious for being buggy and running constant updates to fix and update.

Microsoft is a little nicer than Apple but has the same sort of policy, "You run our OS keep it up to date." Google acts like that is their policy but seems to make no actions to support it. The tell the manufacturers to keep Android up to date, who in turn tell the carriers to provide the updates which gets passed to the user. Each level progressively weaker at forcing updates.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Sheldor1967:
Truthfully, and here is the advantage of a T-Mo Unit, I have been off 4.4.4 for so long, I don't remember. I ran International versions of Lollipop for a weeks before T-Mo finally released it. Even so, I have to say that I am so much happier with bare-bones stock. The Devs do great work, but seem to hit snags at every turn on Lollipop. Stock is just more reliable.

But I agree with you wanting to be on the latest if you're gonna have bugs either way. I'd rather they work out the bugs before they release it! We heard all these great promises about how 5.0 was going to be the promised land of efficiency! Oops! I'd love to use an iPhone for that reason alone. When you only have to develop IOS for a few devices that you have total control over, it's a lot easier to get it right. But even still, IOS can be buggy at times, as my wife often complains about hers! But then I'd miss Android's flexibility!

O-Well, it keeps Developers working, so it's all good!

I am still thinking that I may buy an International S6 to avoid all the carrier drama altogether...But spending $700 on a purchase across the pond has me proceeding very cautiously! ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Dieselrellim:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/04/07/galaxy-s4-on-att-gets-android-lollipop-ota-software-update/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] archie87:
Well, it's official, the S5 is a lost cause.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mattucf:
Right cause if they update the s4 it won't affect s5 sales
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cybershawngates:
Wow s4 getting the update. Might mean we are soon then....didnt they update the m7 one week before m8? It could be they think the s5 was such a flop sales wise that the s4 is higher priority. I dont know why i like my s5 better baterry life than s4 and waterproof bigger screen
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Sheldor1967:
I owned the S4 for four days and took it back and got the HTC M7....The S4 was crap compared to the S5, in my opinion anyway. I'll never understand the beating the S5 has taken. Cheap feel? Sure, but I slapped a case on it just as I had done to the "great feeling" M7! Inconsequential as far as I'm concerned because I will always protect my investment. I sold the M7 for almost $300, so the case is a WIN!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] sakdroid:
Looks like S4 got 4.4.4 on Nov 2014 and S5 now in April 2015.

So considering this pattern, ATT S5 will get update in July 2015... :fingers-crossed:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MichaeLionheart:
Still 3 months away.. you'd be happy with that? :confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] dmcwhirter72:
Not sure about the M7 to M8 updates but I know for a fact they held an update to the One X+ till the week before or week of the M7's release. I recall lots of pissed people over that one too since the X+ was only like 6 or 7 months old.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] nicetucu:
I doubt most of us would use a stock lollipop anyways. Also isn't the 5.1 version the best, most stable also?

I feel it's probably a week or so out from getting it and most of us are going to wait to see if a rooted version can be used. Don't get me wrong I'm a bit irked at AT&T, but it is not going to be a monumental change. It may be a marketing ploy to get many to upgrade to an S6 perhaps.

I for one am sticking with the S5 and waiting for the next upgrade to see what comes out. All in all, it is just a phone guys.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] amazingasian:
Still better than not getting lollipop at all... even though that might happen.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] justlovejoy:
I put money way sooner than july, before this business week is up.

Mark my words! Shhh...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Sheldor1967:
Just a phone?! Blasphemy! ;o)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] xfaega:
Am I missing something or am I reading this wrong?

http://www.appy-geek.com/Web/ArticleWeb.aspx?regionid=1&articleid=39914852

According to this both S4 and S5 are getting the L5 today.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] FilthyFord:
[MENTION=5767697]nicetucu[/MENTION]. I agree with you. IT'S JUST A PHONE PEOPLE. You'll still be able to call, text, surf the net, etc. Sure the icons are different but i don't see the big hype in an update. i think yall should put the phone down a little more often and live life a little more.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] schilkemusic:
My boss has a s5 with sprint in Puerto Rico and a lollipop and updated this morning
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] amazingasian:
If the s5 did get the lollipop update today, then someone on xda or androidcentral or some other place on the internet would have said something.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] sakdroid:
That's not happy.. its Fingers crossed!

Hoping to get sooner.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] D1ON1S:
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"The update for the Samsung S5 will be released on 4/8/2015. "
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cybershawngates:
Seems like tomorrow is supposed to be the day. S5 active too

Check [MENTION=271250]att[/MENTION] twitter s5active advert. I have a screenshot but cant attach from xda app for some reason
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mircony:
So I've jacked with my time/date to check for updates... Will I still be able to update if my date is set forward?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MichaeLionheart:
Yeah i was wondering the same thing.. kinda sucks you need to wait 24 hours just to check for updates lol. :mad:

Maybe plug your phone into Kies and trying to update?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] LeKtRiCzzz:
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It's a verified twitter account if that makes any difference
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] CAG-man:
Yes, you can. However don't change the date and time until it becomes available. It will only be available when it becomes so on the server regardless of actual date the device checks.

When people start posting the update set your date 1 day beyond when your next update check will be. To get the update.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Co2Noss:
I'm downloading the update right now :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] czechpunk:
Yep, me too!!! :D :D :D :D

BOUT F-ING TIME!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mattucf:
performance / question

So a few questions : If I upgrade to 5.0.1 I won't be able to go back to 4.4.2 no matter what right? Also how is the performance guys - have the issues with the home button, slow pulling down of the notification shade, etc been fixed? Are you having major issues with the new version?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Dakmagnum:
So lollipop is here now we need to roof it lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] czechpunk:
I think AT&T put this update on their oldest & slowest server; i'm still downloading...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Co2Noss:
Yeah I'm at 61% right now but you gotta keep in mind everyone with an S5 that heard the news today is spamming the update server for the 5.0 update. Looooooonnnnggg overdue so I'm patient.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] czechpunk:
You're probably right
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] LeKtRiCzzz:
Do i need to return to stock in order to update
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] czechpunk:
Probably
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] CAG-man:
The update is 1433.70MB. So at 1.4GB make sure you are near a fast WiFi connection. I cannot update with this. I am downloading to post the update file unless someone else is able to do so before me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] LuckRocks:
Anyone with an s5 Active check?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mattucf:
downloaded lolipop

Yes I'd love the update file and instructions on how to apply it. Update files downloaded though require you to factory reset right if not done OTA? I have no wifi at work, but I could download on my work PC and copy it over.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] d34thbl00m:
I have S5 Active, update not available for me yet. Gonna check kies and see but I don't s really want to lose root.

Also, I've heard people on other carriers say they can still downgrade the kernel to root....hopefully that method works for us.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MichaeLionheart:
Might be a stupid question but, i really don't know too much about the whole "root" thing and whatnot but what exactly do you get out of your phone if you root it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] d34thbl00m:
Rooting gives you the ability to use root apps such as Titanium Backup among several others. Also gives you the ability to modify system files or uninstall bloatware that att loaded on the phone. You can also install safestrap recovery which allows you to install zip files and make backups of your current ROM.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MichaeLionheart:
Ah ok. thanks for the heads up man.:good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] amazingasian:
Lollipops here!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] archie87:
Now we just need root, lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] raymondn:
Where does the 1.4gb OTA file get stored until you perform the update?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] CAG-man:
I believe in a subdirectory of the cache folder. It has been awhile since i pulled an OTA file.

To the other questions from others about flashing the OTA via stock recovery. Yes it will factory reset of you install it that way. If I or someone else posts the OTA file I would wait until muniz creates a flashable file from it. Then you will likely be able to say your data.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] raymondn:
I think I found it... It is in data\fota

It's a .cfg file though... Is that correct? It's called 2400258.cfg. I'm sure it's the right file as I was watching it get bigger as I was downloading, and then it has stopped at 1.4gb
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] CAG-man:
Thank you, I knew it was a fota folder. Yes it is a cfg file. If you pull future updates it will usually follow that pattern a cfg file named with a series of numbers.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] norbarb:
Can someone please post .cfg file of current OTA update. .
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] CAG-man:
Again I plan to as soon as I finish downloading. It is a very slow download.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] raymondn:
I'm uploading it at the moment. As soon as it's up I'll post a link
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MichaeLionheart:
Hate to be the negative nancy here but.. how long do you think it's gonna take AT&T now until we get lollipop 5.0.2.. another year lol?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cybershawngates:
Try turning off animations developer in options I think it makes it much faster.

I did an upgrade it seemed kind of sluggish my first few min of using. Esp live wallpaper and fb. Maybe it is still caching. On a family members s4 a clean install and lollipop seemed really fast.

Much Better now after second boot up
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] sakdroid:
Looks like AT&T is pushing just 5.0 to S5 but S4 gets 5.0.1...

So its just taste of lollipop with bugs...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MichaeLionheart:
That's ridiculous...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cybershawngates:
May explain why S4 seemed faster than s5 on lollipop update (tho the S4 was a clean install). i didn't think I'd have to turn off animations on the S5 but seems to help.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mattucf:
punishment

It feels like they are punishing us. Hey you wanted Lollipop...we'll give you Lollipop alright. Here you go, have the buggy version we would have updated to 5.0.1 if you hadn't complained and wanted it now!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] scientificthegreat:
I downloaded the .cfg from the guy in the other thread, renamed it to update.zip, rebooted to recovery, installed from external sd however it failed. In fact it never even kicked off, it displayed "no command"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] biggong:
I've just updated exactly like this. You just need to wait, process is slow...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] norbarb:
You nee to push true ADB from sd-card or PC. If you push from sd-card it will erase your data if you push from PC will not. I'm uploading lollipop update to my personal server. So more people can download and push by ADB or someone can make flashable zip