yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Guybrush:
I really don't know why u have troubles with it, I've tested on a p3300 that as same processor of wizard and there works enogh well.

Scroll should work like this :

1) tap

2) always with finger pressed on the screen move in up or down direction

3) release the finger.

if you do that bad maybe it calc a 0 speed and can't move... speed depends from lenght of drag and time. With p3300 that I have here at the moment it is working good.

I have added a new version where i calc position also when u release the finger from the screen, I hope this help. try it ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] freeyayo50:
You know what....I guess im just so use to using Larna's app and the way it handles taps and drags compared to yours. Scrolling is working better because i changed the way I do the tap and drag.

I tap down on the screen, then wait a split second, then drag. It works better when I do this with your app.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djtimmy:
I really can't get it to work for my PPC. I'm running a WM5 around 600mhz. I follwed instructions to intsall it, but i can't seem to get it working, it just freezes my ppc, any ideas?

Cheers

-DJ
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pokey:
Just downloaded iContacts 0.2 - runs very nicely on my HTC Charmer. One question: is it possible to run Pocket Informant rather than Pocket Outlook when you select a contact?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] larna:
@djtimmy

I really don't know why you can't run iContact. Maybe you have some custom ROM which is flawed somehow.

Sorry

@pokey

Pocket Outlook has API that allows me to programmatically instantiate it. I don't think that would be possible with Pocket Informant. I guess we should ask Pocket Informant developers do they support that kind of stuff?

larna
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] YoLoLo:
I think i can answer... I use SBSH PocketBreeze, and the DEV has succeed in invoking PIContacts when taping on a contact list...

I think it is possible to code... but i don't know how ! :rolleyes:

You can contact Alex Kac, senior DEV of PocketInformant... I think he will indicate the name of API... :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] larna:
@YoLoLo

Well, i just contacted them, so we'll see.

thx for information.

larna
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sx1-doc:
the problem...

hey Guybrush

i am testing both applications to the max and here is only the difference:

- icontact is faster because of the first action ,that means when i put my finger on the screen and scroll without waiting any milli second.

-Scolingstone dosnt react in the same way, i have to put my finger on the screen and wait for a sec and then scroll,

thats make the speed difference.

i hope you got what i mean.

PPC-DOC
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Guybrush:
@sx1-doc thanks for help... i've done this version should be more reactive...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pighead:
it is quite easy to use and scroll is very smooth, very good...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] YoLoLo:
Now, only missing the dial function :D :D ;) :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sx1-doc:
here is ma asus p525

just took fast video of some prog on my asus p525 ,icontat,pocket suspand fx,...ma first video :).

i will try the new version now.

thanks

PPC-DOC
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] daxliniere:
@Guybrush

The ScrollingStone is jerky/unsmooth on my phone. Also, I hope you add a config page so users can specify font size, box height and the amount of information each box shows (i.e ability to switch off telephone#, photo, etc)

I have also experienced the same problem as sx1-doc reported. iContact 0.2 is still much smoother.

Also, what keyboard layout did you use, man!?!? :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sx1-doc:
finished testing

@Guybrush for me is the same as b4.

i give u a tip m8.

when i touch the screen and scroll it directly select an contact and doesnt scroll , i notice that have to select a contact to scroll???why??is there a reason behind it?

means the scrolling method you use depand on the selected contact ,thats not the way in icontact.

just do it as icontact i will make video now and uploaded for you to c what i mean.

PPC-DOC
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] LordDeath:
one downloadlink to pocket suspend fx please :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Guybrush:
when item become black not mean u have select the contact... it's just a way to inform you u are pointing that item... but u must double tap or take it pressed to activate the item :) it's only a choose to paint it

@daxliniere personal layout
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sx1-doc:
i hope you saw the video

Guybrush you didnt get what i mean m8.

in icontact i begin scroll from any point i want .

in scrolingstone i only can scroll from the colored contact (mean i have to put my finger on the colored contact AND scroll.

PPC-DOC
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Guybrush:
because icontact paint item only with double tap :) i paint when u touch an item... it's only a different choose :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sx1-doc:
try this then

so try to put the first tap for scrolling and the second tap to color it .

that should do the job.

PPC-DOC
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Guybrush:
no, i like this, because I want also add speed buttons to make call and sms... so u must know the item you are pointing :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jackbnymbl:
Great job, it works wonderfully on WM 2003 SE (BTW, I've come from A_C's post to bug you...)

from what I read in previous posts, I understand that you're going to add quick email/call buttons?

If that's the case, could you make them optional and add new contact and call from skype buttons as well?

The only bug I noticed (as fas as WM 2003SE goes) is that if you go to another app, the today bar sometimes shows up at the bottom of the screen again.

Anyway, great work. Any chance you could get together with the author of WisBar Advance? It would be really cool to have this interface system wide...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] larna:
Ehm...

Who your talking to? Me or Guybrush? ;)

As for me, i wont be adding quick email/call buttons. That is something you get in a second after you tap a contact. My task is making a contact selection more easier and comfortable. And I'm already there as far as I'm concerned. I'm working on improvements, but nv0.2 is perfectly usable for me. I use it instead of standard contacts app. It doesn't have fancy features, but i think it's most pleasureable (does that word exist?) contacts app to use. I wont add new features in terms of displaying a number on the list, icons and what not.

There are some things that are in my plans, and i'm working on some nice things... I wont tell which ones, but they'll make the app more usable for me, and i hope for the rest of you.

larna
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jackbnymbl:
ok, I didn't realize that there were two separate apps here. Still great job, the scrolling works just as well as in the iphone keynote demo

Where is guybrush's app?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Guybrush:
because me and larna enjoy programming, iContact is the official app and it's great and ready to use, less buggy and more simple while I have my test app where i try new features and develope my ideas that maybe larna can apply in the official realease of iContact. My app have more features and not all of them will be available on iContact... with larna I have a good talking about improve iContact, share ideas and code, that's why two separate apps.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gabbyg:
Guybrush, It's great that you and larna are working together in terms of ideas and so on but I really suggest you open a new thread for your tests as this thread is getting more confusing as I myself want to concentrate on larna's app. As I only have a wm2003 version, your tests are useless for me. Thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rcperez:
here an extensive iphone demo, scrolling is well shown here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB6boQPIG30&mode=related&search=
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] larna:
Is there anyone who haven't seen that already?

;)

larna
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Guybrush:
i agree, iphone has really a very good interface.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] daxliniere:
Much love to you Mr Threepwood, but I agree with GabbyG.

Dax.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Guybrush:
ok guys, I'll leave this thread.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Anth:
Dear larna

I love the v2 of yours. Can u do some improvement on the "stop scrolling" part?

For example, can it stop perfectly on the border line instead of showing half of the name for the top and bottom part of the screen?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Rob w:
Beautifully done larna! The only thing is that I too would like to see contact pics on there. and maybe the option to adjust font size?

or maybe I just missed that.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] alex_ban2001:
Hello Larna. Like I said before, your app is very nice and keep up the good work. I will agree with Anth aboyt stopping on the middle of the boxes sometimes and I wonder if there is in your plans to make some sort of limitation system for contact look up. As you can probably imagine I have hundrends of contacts stored in my phone (maybe you don't, OK) and it is quite difficult and time wasting to scroll down so many contacts to find one which is alphabetically at the end of the list. Thanks any way and we are all watching up closely for any improvements.:cool:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] daxliniere:
Hi Rob,

Larna has stated that he'll only be introducing features that he wants to use, because, essentially, he's developing this for himself and kindly sharing his work with everyone.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] freakuency:
this seems to be an exact copy of the iphone, and although its pretty to look at, and easy to use... when youve got over 200 contacts, its a frikkin nightmare trying to find someone!!!

great app though!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] freeyayo50:
If your really leaving this thread. Can you please start another one with your developing app??!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] YoLoLo:
... And post a link in this thread to follow you... keeping an eye at larna's excellent work ! :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zanfo:
very nice job!I use this apply on my universal,and I have a question:is possible to make bigger letter in the icontact screen?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] markquinton:
I'm very happy with this application, v0.2 includes loads more fixes so thank you larna for all your hard work. I've had to amend my contacts so that any with an '&' in them appear correctly. "Mum & Dad" has been modified to Mum && Dad otherwise the first D in Dad is underlined. Could you think of a way round this so I can have them appear correctly in Outlook (No double &)?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jackbnymbl:
I have an idea. I'm not sure what the iPhone uses, it's been too long since I saw the keynote, but what about a OS X dock-esque alphabet in one vertical column on the right side that appears when you tap your stylus over there (or it could be there all the time), and as you drag the stylus across each letter, iContact scrolls to the corresponding contact.

Maybe it could even have magnification like the dock if that's possible, and if it's there all the time, it could change as the screen scrolls.

Just an idea though, probably too hard to implement...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Guybrush:
I've already did it, but qvga screen are really small and letters can be touched only with stylo... it's not very usefull :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xander803:
Couldn't you split it into two columns one each side of the screen? Or would that leave too little space in the middle?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xander803:
On a different note, I've noticed in this thread that the rationale behind not having the program truly close is that it only occupies 40kb of memory. I'm not sure this is entirely true. When initially loading the program up, yes it only occupies that much. However, after selecting a contact and then closing that contact window and going back to iContact, the memory usage is now about 300kb. Perhaps the memory associated with opening this contact window is not being released? As far as I can tell, after opening one of those windows, the iContact memory usage will never go back down to 40kb.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] freeyayo50:
Even 300kb is still not alot of memory. With that being said, this app is still good and I am having no troubles with it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xander803:
I know it's not a lot. I'm just merely pointing out that if the developer thinks that only 40kb is being used then something is not working as intended. Either way, I agree with you that it's a great program. Even in such early stages, I already use it as my method to retrieve contacts.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] larna:
Thx for pointing out an issue. However, i don't have that issue :) After a day of using app, and not closing it, just minimizing it, the task manager still shows iContact using 30 - 40 kB of memory.

What windows version are you using? What exactly do you do before memory goes to 400kB

I've solved all issues i had on my device, and yet, some users still home troubles with the app. Problems that i don't have. That is why i don't like windows ;)

larna
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jackbnymbl:
In response to what guybrush said: I can see your point, that would be tiny. Perhaps if it maximizes like OSX does (i might have said this already, I'm too lazy to look...), you can just tap it anywhere, and drag down/up it till it comes to the right letter. The contacts themselves could scroll while you do, making it easier to tell.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xander803:
I'm using a HTC p4350 (herald). I believe the AKU is 3.2. All I'm doing is scrolling through the list selecting several contacts. I close those contact windows and then close the main iContact window and the memory usage is pegged at 257 KB.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] larna:
Just tried what you did. And this time i didn't even closed contact details window. I opened a few of them, maybe 5 - 6. Then i opened task manager ans saw iContact using 37kB. I closed all contact details windows, and then checked memory. And again, iContact used 27kB. So i really don't understand. If it is some kind of a memory leak, then it could maybe be related to some strange characters in your contacts name? Could that be the case?

larna
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] diamond01:
colors

is it possible to chage the background of font colors?Great program
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] daxliniere:
Hi Diamond,

Not yet, but if Larna thinks that feature will be useful to him, he might introduce it in the future.

There has been discussion of the "release version" having a seperate config program. As yet, all the settings are hard-coded into the single exe file of v0.2
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cybersush:
ABC ... easy as 1..2..3

Hey Larna, any news on the ABC-thing? I know iContacts keeps running in the background (with 27kb :) ), so i dont know if this is possible: I launch iContacts, and first i see a screen with letters A-Z (filling the whole screen, so the letters are big and can be tapped with the finger), then i tap the letter i want (example "F" for Fred), and presto: iContacts starts with all names starting with "F" (i hope someone understands what i mean). Anyway, great app, still my number 1 contacts program!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] GldRush98:
I love this app, very cool and fast way to get through your contacts.

I think it'd be cool to have an option to start it in the middle of the list. That way you only have to scroll 50% of the way through your list at most no matter who you're looking for, instead of starting at the begining and having to scroll through 100%.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] markquinton:
Since the app doesn't totally close it remains at the last position you had it at when you closed it. Leave it where you want then the next time it opens it'll be there :)

I personally would prefer it to always start at the beginning!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pgmnv:
Hello all,

It's just to let you know, that I'm using iContact 0.2, on a Glofiish X500 with WM6, unknow AKU. And so far it's working good.

Thank you for the great program larna.

Cheers

Pedro Vicente
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Syl538:
Can you make an app like this for MP3's
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Syl538:
MP3

Can u make an app like this for MP3's
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] larna:
I thought about programming an music player, but as I'm just a beginner, I guess this was better start.

larna
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Grumps:
Larna i wrote an iphone lookalike app and referenced your scrolling ap on there would you mind mentioning mine on your first page. Excellent app btw.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1219757#post1219757
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nicolas:
for all people like me who did not know what this app. is all about.

little youtube video in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohJ7eevds-k

works great btw.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pw-man:
Larna - great little app! I just thought I'd tell you that I played with it on my Samsung I730 running WM5 at 530mhz.

The one thing I did notice is that the scrolling seems to be very sensitive. I am more likely to hit an entry and have it open the contacts than to scroll. Maybe a double tap for opening would help??? not sure... I like where this is heading... keep programming!

pw-man
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NNagendran:
simple contact apps?????

dude, change the title.... it's a great piece of programming... may be AWESOME contact app?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] larna:
Thx guys & gals for comments and encouragements.

Thx nicolas for youtube video. I don't have a cam to record one.

There are a few features i'd like to add to the app and i hope i'll be able to do that.

Thx,

larna
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dole_95:
Thank you for this app! It is so cool! I just need to add some more contacts now ...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ianrulz123:
Very cool app!!!

I'd also like to reverse the colors (black background, white or another color text...)

Also, I've noticed with most other apps that I have when I push "end" on my HTC Wizard it takes me back to Grummps iPhone app, but when I push "end" in your app it doesn't seem to do anything, is this just me? Any way to make "end" also take me back out of the program?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joecruz:
ur application is excellent! just a simple request...could you change the font size smaller or make an option to change the font size. If you can make it look like/integrated with the actual contacts applications, that would be excellent
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joecruz:
also, since u started this with a wizard and i assume ur device is a wizard, how come u didnt post it in the wizards forum? please post ur EXCELLENT application in the wizard forum as well, so that more wizards owner can get the benefit of this WONDERFULL application! coz a lot of wizards owners just stick to wizard forums without even taking a look at this forum. this way (if u post ur app in the wizard forum), more wizard owner will benefit from ur application...thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] larna:
I didn't post the app in the wizard forum couse it isn't finished yet (the app), so i posted it in the development thread, as right now, i'm more interested in developers opinions on the app.

Once the app is more or less bug free i will post it in wizard section also.

Thx for comments, it means a lot to hear wonderfull responses to my "test" ;)

larna
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mccune:
I do not agree on this one. This is an application that can run on QVGA devices running WM5.0 so it's best to leave it in the "General Section".

I have had multiple times searching fixes in all different sections while it's really a "general tool". For example: the BatteryStatus programm is an excelent programm, but it could be hard to find if you don't look into the HTC Prophet section ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] justtune:
Nice!!!

Works on My MDA...

Wish list.... MP3 Scroll
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Cifer:
Gorgeous app, Im lookin forward to the next version! And omg it would be so cool if you could code a mp3 player...!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kunz:
larna, this is brilliant! Well done for your first application!

Its already awesome =) but since you have asked for dev input, here are my suggestions for short term goals you could probably consider for this project:

Simple, colour based skinning - I think the majority of people will want this application to load as fast as it does right now, and bogging it down with graphics etc will only cause it to lag. Also, I would suggest you simply implement calling the variables for colours, font-size etc from an external file (contacts_settings.ini) for now instead of implementing a settings function in the actual executable. Doing this is quite simple and will only take you a couple of minutes to implement in your code or at most, or 30mins - 1 hour if you're not familiar with the methods.

Command line support - Almost everyone I know has their contact list filtered according to categories. It would be good to specify a category name as a parameter, which you could then use to load only those contacts
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fallenczar:
VGA Support please!!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NNagendran:
larna,

if you continue to make this app better, I think we got ourselves a great contacts manager replacement.

only if we can see summary page and notes designed by you, rather than the default ones...

great job dude...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dy2592:
Works fine on my HTC 8125. Hope development continues. One issue I have with it is it doesn't display contacts for companies correctly. Seems Like all my company contacts are shown as a blank spot, but I can still click on it and it will open up that contact.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] akiaki1:
svaka cast majstore, programcic je zakon :) samo ga dalje razvijaj i uljepsavaj malo, mozda svaki drugi unos da je svijetlo sivi ili tak nekaj i mozda nekako da se moze preskociti na neko pocetno slovo? samo par ideja, ali odlicno je, samo tako!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] larna:
Hrvatski, eh...

Fala, fala.

Sta se tice prijedloga, iman u vidu neke stvari, al hrpa posla u firmi i izvan nje... Pomalo ;)

larna
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] myRIGHT:
many thnx for your effort, finally the icontact is working in may imate.

i ve one suggestion ,i do not know if anyone raise it or not, what about adding contact photo beside the name.it will very easy and practical than name alone.

am i right???