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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] scientificthegreat:
Did your phone reboot within 2/3 minutes after starting the process? After I kick off the update, there doesn't appear to be any progress, but it reboots back into recovery mode and just sits there.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ThuGzta:
I cant seem to get any update. Never have been rooted. Fully stocked 4.4.2

Everytime I check the update, it says its interrupted and it doesn't show any updates v_v.

Any help would be highly appreciated. I have an unlocked AT&T model (so I can run any sim) and I am not in the US.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] scientificthegreat:
I have the same issue. I'm going to try going to 4.4.4 first
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] CAG-man:
It should be pretty stable with most of the bugs worked out. It is the same build pushed to Verizon last week. OC4 They seem to be pleased with the performance of OC4 so far. Yes there will be bugs no matter what.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
(PcMark for android)

PCMark for Android introduces a fresh approach to benchmarking smart phones and tablets. It measures the performance and battery life of the device as a complete unit rather than a set of isolated components. And its tests are based on common, everyday tasks instead of abstract algorithms.

Finally, a benchmark application confirms what I have been saying for the past 3 months.......

Note3 (N900 Exynos: android 5.0) out-performs my Note 4 (Exynos: android 4.4.4)

Can you test and post your scores with Note 4 ( android 5.0.1 lollipop ) ?

Highest Scores so far (stock devices)

….

------------------------v1.2--------------------------------

Note 4, N910C Exynos, Lollipop: 5455

-------------------------v1.0--------------------------------

N900 [ Note3, Exynos, Lollipop]: 5216

N910C [ Note4, Exynos, Lollipop]: 4942

N910F [ Note4, SD805, Lollipop]: 4419

----------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 4 General] willowpc:
4808 on Work Performance... note that i'm facing some problems with bad GPU performance with my device on Lollipop, in KitKat it was better (just in GPU)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
My Note 3 (N900, Exynos)

Work Performance: 5097
[Galaxy Note 4 General] willowpc:
4901.. I'm having bad results at video playback .. so, as I have said.. the problem with the bad optimization of the GPU on Lollipop is affecting the overall result.. I think with the next update the results will increase..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Are you still getting 7500 or something on antutu 3d? If yes can you do gfxbench too?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
Note N910h android 4.4.4 kitkat
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
Note3 N900 Exynos android 5.0
[Galaxy Note 4 General] kolembo:
Love your Note 3.

Wait for the Note 5

Skip the Note 4.

The rest of us will just have to make do.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jetbruceli:
Note 4 snapdragon n910f on lollipop. That's even done in the freezer
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jetbruceli:
OK better. I guess I had power saving on.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
Please post N910c scores (esp. those running lollipop).....

thanks
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bajica:
N910C lollipop 4544
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Fabiolus:
Downloading test now, how long will it take?

FabiolusLMP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Fabiolus:
SM 910C

FabiolusLMP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] .IC3M4N.:
N910c too...View attachment 3166525
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jetbruceli:
All I know is no more non home made soc for me with Samsung. They seem to be wining the chip war like they did with the gs2 and gs3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SAVVAS.:
SM-N910C Lollipop. Room temp: ~20°C
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bajica:
I figured out the low video score is because of using experimental player in developer options
[Galaxy Note 4 General] willowpc:
So, without the experimental video player, i had a similar result. Looks like that in the best scenario we can get 5000 points...

4942 points...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
so far, no Note4 has managed to cross the 5000 mark, let alone beat the Note3 score of 5097.

Interesting !!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] turbomann:
It's disappointing, note 3 more faster than note 4 :(
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Okarina26:
Don`t worry guys...the Note 4 is a beast..:D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
Please give us a snapshot of the work performance details ( scroll down to end)

What are your Note 4 details... N910c with stock lollipop ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sirobelec:
Running the benchmark as we speak, the N9005 (cause I didn't see it mentioned, only the N900).

Because of the damn 2K display it's only natural that the good ole Note 3 can feel just as fast (if not faster in some cases) in day-to-day use.

To be honest, I like the design of the Note 4, but the "low quality plastic" on the 3 somehow feels better in my hand. o.O

My N9005 just measured a score of 4281, close-to-stock official Lollipop ROM.

When [MENTION=3357040]Imoseyon[/MENTION] gets his hands on the kernel source and we're able to overclock again to 2,7 gHz, I'll run this bench again. :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ebusuhejbi:
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[Galaxy Note 4 General] Fabiolus:
Redid antutu and pcmark, here it is

FabiolusLMP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ilker79:
Great scores
[Galaxy Note 4 General] knox0x1:
Pcmark and the other one. Can remember how to spell it. Is there anything I can do to beef up my device? I know I'm limited with a locked bootloader but someone has to know something.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
New top score: 5130
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ZiR0:
Here is my n910c (Cq) with stock lollipop.

Score: 4982
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
Are there no Note4 variants that can score better than 5000 out there?

Please give full details of the setup..i.e stock Rom/kernel etc
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mcaserg:
Well....
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
That's more like it .....

Phone details please?

Lollipop 5.0.1 ?

Touchwiz ?

stock ROM ?

Stock kernel ?

Phone model N910C ?

details please !!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Braxos:
The guy above has exynos and 4.4.4 since it has 4G and not lte as symbol for LTE connection.

And yes lollipop has a issue with the gpu I guess, on antutu it gives more times half the gpu score as it should be. 7.5k instead of 15k+

N910C with polish lolipop stock
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Go in power saving. Enable it then remove cpu limit from list and disable power saving. Its a bug on lollipop whatever power saving is enabled or disabled if cpu limit checked gpu stays in power saving mode.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mcaserg:
N910C , KitKat4.4.4, my kernel UK_v.11.4(special version for performance, not uploaded on xda).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Okarina26:
Yes there are..!!!...:D

N910U with 4.4.4...there is still no Lollipop for this version

Sweet Rom with Perseus Kernel..!!!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Soult:
Restarting

I made the right process, but my phone is so restarting
[Galaxy Note 4 General] umberto.sulla:
Are you sure? I will try...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Yeah im sure.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
Stock lollipop, N900
[Galaxy Note 4 General] knox0x1:
Note 3 kitkat
[Galaxy Note 4 General] rj3005:
910f stock lp
[Galaxy Note 4 General] midreestaj:
Note 4 CPU utilization under LP in PCmark is very low it seems, benchmark is not exploiting the cores potential fully
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
Yes, the benchmark is designed to imitate real world use scenarios.

My way of putting what you say would be...."Note4 is poorly optimised"
[Galaxy Note 4 General] midreestaj:
I see a customer kernel or wait for next update from Samsung ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] satslu:
Stock Lollipop INU with root. 5216.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
Impressive !!!

Please give more details on your phones setup.

and confirm it's pure stock with no mods.

Really impressive!!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] satslu:
No. I didnt do anything. Everything is stock and supersu.zip flashed by CWM. Thats all.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
just matched that score
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
pure Stock SM-N900 -Exynos Note 3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Sidneymac:
So I'm on kitkat and my settings are actually geared towards to battery life but this score doesn't seem too bad. I got 47200
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
for Note 3 or Note 4?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Sidneymac:
Note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Sidneymac:
Evidence
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RochiWizz:
Stock lollipop rooted with CPU governor set to performance
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
Interesting score.....

thanks!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
V1.2 changes......... Note 4 now scores above 5000
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jamesbond007uk:
Which Rom are you using?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] v1rtu4l:
at least the OP got a sh1tload of people download the this benchmark app. it is not a long shot to assume he has some kind of affiliation with the app or developer and is just trying to promote it (seeing he only created two threads and both about the bench mark, one in Note3 and one in the Note 4 forums :eek:).

well played.

btw: the benchmark does not really show the real life performance, because you download a package of several hundred megabytes for that work benchmark test. this means that are the actual scripted "apps" that should simulate the performance of the device in real life. since these apps that run inside the benchmark test are not the apps the galaxy note 4 use uses to operate its phone on a daily basis the result only show how well those PCmark work benchmark apps are optimized for the Note 4.

a proper comparision would compare a sample task with the installed apps that people actually use. i.e. do some image modifications and filters in the inbuild picture editor of the note 3 and then the note 4.

this benchmark would still show the note 3 superior in imaging for instance, even if samsung packed a super imaging editor in the note 4s stock rom that is 10 times as fast in doing everything (compared to the note3) simply because the bench mark uses own apps that nobody knows how well they are designed.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
stock ROM .... B0C5
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
I would like to accept your praise but unfortunately, I'm just investigating a suspicion I've had about "so-called " phone upgrades.

There's no affiliation to any software developer.

I can't imagine why "simple curiosity" would be difficult to accept as the motive.

That's what the app is trying to simulate. Perhaps you can send (benchmark developers) your suggestions.

Now "you" sound like you work for Samsung.

I'm simply checking if upgrades are really worth it..... and so far, the note4 is not a worthy upgrade ( over the note 3 - in terms of performance) for day to day activities.

However, you have every right to disagree and remain happy with your purchase.

I have both phones( Note 3 / Note4 ) and I still find the Note 3 faster.

The note4 can't even keep up with the Note3 when flipping through the same 20-page SNote document.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alom5:
I have to say i can't notice the difference in terms of performance from the nite 3 to the note 4. The real upgrade is on the camera and the screen. That's what i find anyway. Performance wise really fail to see any difference. ....
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
Thanks for the confirmation... I'm surprised more people have not noticed this.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
I have both version of note 3 and exynos note 4 and s805 note edge. Edge is very similar in terms of performance with note 3s. But exynos note 4 is significantly faster than both note 3 versions.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
Is your exynos note 4 running stock firmware ?

Can you elaborate on how you judge speed difference between these devices?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Yes its stock. And i just put them side by side with newest software and note 4 definetly faster. Actually in power saving mode its same with note 3 in app opening etc. Without power saving its just faster and way more responsive
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
What's your average room temp ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Dunno 25c? Btw im not talking about benchmarks so i dont think room temp relevant.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] v1rtu4l:
Your observations would make sense and lead to the conclusion that Samsung is better at optimizing android for its own processor. Am I correct or did I misunderstand ?

Gesendet von meinem SM-N910F mit Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alom5:
It is reported that the exynos variant is faster in terms of pure performance. ..so that would make sense
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
Not only benchmark apps..... anything that heats up the cpu/phone/gpu .... like games.

Comparing Note 3 and Note 4,

Both running lollipop ( v5.0 vs v5.01)

I have the very same apps installed on both phones... ( N900 / N910H ..... both Exynos )

Running the same apps side by side for comparison.....

eg.

SNote, - flipping through a large document. - Note 3 faster. than Note 4

benchmarks - Note 3 completes the tasks faster (eg. geekbench, antutu. )

Opening large documents - Note3 is faster

Multitasking - Note3 holds more apps in memory than Note 4 (max: 10 vs 8 ) depending on size of apps

These are just a few.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
im not a gamer so i didnt see any of my devices throttle in general use

dont have anything on snote. but on evernote both is smooth note 4 is abit better.

in geekbench my note 4 finisg it way faster with almost 50% higher score. deleted antutu long time ago but i bet gpu bug on note 4 lollipop effects there

i just opened a very big word document note 4 opened it faster and scrolling is smoother.

in every app note 4 launches signifacantly faster for me

about ram. my note 4 has higher free ram but also note 4 apps use higher ram like stock browser use like 2x ram on note 4. and yes note 3 is better in here but switching between opened apps note 4 is more responsive and fast too.

dunno its my experience with it.

every bloat disabled or deleted from all devices. useless smart features not active too if it matters.

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exynos 5433 and s805 has power difference. exynos has more powerful cpu so i cant comment on optimizing anything on note 4.

but on note 3 i dont see any difference only exynos note 3 has better browsing performance it probably about cpu too. in general use both version is very similar only difference note 3 exynos heats mor than s800 note 3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] darkbahamut:
Just tried this benchmark on my 910c. Got 5455 at stock clocks.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
Really?,

can you post a screenshot of the score?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] darkbahamut:
Sure.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m42/emeraldphoenix/2015-04-10 20.34.55_zps0mmdd8b1.png~original
[Galaxy Note 4 General] v1rtu4l:
The difference in processors does not make much sense since you can clearly see in the benchmark app that the processor is never even remotely under full load.

Gesendet von meinem SM-N910F mit Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
ah if you are talking about this benchmark i didnt even try it real life simulating benchmarks worthless imo. and if processor doesnt go full load in this test it makes sense why scores are low cuz note 4 exynos goes full freq mostly on every app opening etc and browsing too
[Galaxy Note 4 General] darkbahamut:
You mean because the clock speed is rarely maxed? That's not really a big issue to be honest. A benchmark that fully loaded the CPU wouldn't tell you a lot because the device would be throttling within 10 seconds so wouldn't give you any indication of real usage at all.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fixfox2:
Real world use rarely max's the cpu so this attached score means very little.

My daily use of the phones however suggests that note4 is poorly optimised (lollipop ). ....if indeed it is faster in hardware.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] v1rtu4l:
no,

my original thought was if the difference in benchmark scores between the note 3 exynos and the note 4 snapdragon is due to the cpu or the optimization of it, then at least it should show a bit of load on the cpu while performing the tasks.

the screenshot of blackbahamuts benchmark result (of his exynos note 4) is very telling. even on stock firmware he has many CPU spikes in certain parts of the benchmark. he has more than 15 cpu spikes some even for a longer period of time which indicated the cpu being under full load meaning the cpu is not fast enough to process all instructions and so it needs all the cpu clock speed to process it.

these spikes are not present in the snapdragon version. i have exactly one short cpu spike for the whole benchmark (without power saving activated) to put this into perspective.

so the exynos processor seems to be a bottleneck here actually.

this leads me to the conclusion that it is probably only the cpu gouvernor that is differently tweaked and much more lazy on the snapdragon, so the CPU will not even raise the speed up for this type of task. i am pretty sure that if you modify the cpu gouvernor and set it to raise the CPU speed instantly it will show similar results. since the benchmark is probably not even multi-threaded (since there is always only one task being done) the amount of cores should be irrelevant and in the end theoretically only the raw cpu clock speed should count, since exynos and snapdragon both use arm architecture with very similar if instruction sets.

back in the old days on the galaxy s2 i had a mod which allowed me to change the cpu governor settings on the fly. if there is such a mod already for the note 4 snapdragon it would be nice to let somebody run the benchmark with stock settings and then with a governor setting tweaked for full performance.

on the other hand it is also reasonable to assume that the benchmark only really makes use of less cpu power than is available on the snapdragon variant.

snapdragon variant has a top speed of 2.7 GHz and hits only one spike during the benchmark.

exynos has a top speed of 1.9 GHz and hits the 100% quite a lot. so the benchmark is probably giving the cpu hardly enough to do fill the pipe for a 2 GHz cpu.

all these observations just lead to the cpu not really being a big factor in the benchmark. in the end most of the time the storage speed is more important anyways, because todays RAM and CPUs are so fast you that you got trouble to get the data read from flash storage to the RAM in the first place and that is what delays the operation and not the cpu not having the power to process all the instructions you throw at it.

just had a look at the galaxy note 3 cpu graphs and they do not even spike much.

the part where the note 3 destroys the note 4 snapdragon is web browsing (probably better optimized web rendering engine) and writing. it is pretty probable that the note 3 just has a faster internal storage or some other factor that makes it write to internal storage faster than the note 4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] darkbahamut:
Some of the spiking is due to big.LITTLE as the graph is spiking between full speed on the A57's and full speed on the A53's and sometimes lower speeds on the A53's. Changing clock speeds is a fast operation so unless it is actually lowering performance then it isn't much of an issue (or bottleneck). It's more important to try and avoid unnecessary high speeds on power hungry cores like the A57's so it may just be that the governor is more aggressive at down clocking once the load drops.

I'll try locking my cores to stop them downclocking and see if it makes any difference.

Rerun of normal speed range: 5556 - http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m42/emeraldphoenix/2015-04-10 23.47.46_zpslyiqebb7.png~original

Speed lock: 5769 - http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m42/emeraldphoenix/2015-04-10 23.54.01_zps1vr8bjqm.png~original

2.5% speed improvement. Clearly the cores running down at 700Mhz at times isn't really reducing performance very much, but it will save a lot of power in the real world.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] v1rtu4l:
that is pretty much what i expected.

the end result will not change much because the difference in scores is in the parts that are not so cpu intensive like web browsing and writing, but the little parts of the benchmark where cpu spikes happen will benefit from a forced high clock speed.

you can even tell that only the parts of the benchmark (web & write) benefitted from forced high clock speed that had spikes in the first place. the other parts of the benchmark did not improve at all.

of course this is just virtual e-peen tweaking for useless benchmark results, so it is not sensible to have such settings in real life (at least not of you plan to plug your phone off the power cable :p )

i think it is save to say that the cpu does not play a big part in the bench mark at all since the note 3 is already a powerfull beast cpu-wise. this also kicks out the assumption that samsung did not properly optimize for the snapdragon, if the cpu does not play a big part in the results in the first place.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] darkbahamut:
Actually, if you look at the breakdown you can see the web browsing score increased by 15% and all the other tests stayed the same. Interesting. There is clearly a big.LITLLE penalty being paid in this benchmark, but this has been highlighted before on other workloads.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jaznjai:
To be specific, the AT&T (jflteatt) has the CM12 with Lollipop on nightlies, however not the Canadian versions. As far as I know, both phones are identical except for carrier.

Has anyone tried to install the CM12 for jflteatt on a Rogers S4? what results did you get?

Also, I am seeing alot of safestrap and other new things I am completely noobish on, if I were to flash Lollipop roms, what is different compared to flashing kitkat roms?

[Sorry if this has already been asked]
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DABOZZ:
I've been trying to install xposed framework on cm12 since it's compatible lollipop, but there's no way to flash the xposed armv7 zip and install the xposed alpha apk.

I have the cm12 recovery
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davebugyi:
1. ask in the xposed dedicated thread

2. it's in early alpha, so don't expect miracles
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nelvinchi:
Try using TWRP recovery to flash the zips.....

[MENTION=4861355]kyasu[/MENTION] has the packed the latest TWRP version for flashing to the FOTA partition in this post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=58854063&postcount=229

:D
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DABOZZ:
Thanks man!
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C2fifield:
Did you ever get it working? Because now the only way I can get it is if I soft reboot through the installer, but that kills my network connection... :confused:
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroidenKalle:
Me too.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DABOZZ:
Yes I got it! What I did is flash the zip through recovery then install the apk and then flash the zip in recovery again... The only problem is that every time you install a new module you have to flash the zip again
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C2fifield:
Did you have to do the soft reboot thing, or did it just work? Regardless that's awesome news!
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DABOZZ:
It just worked! But there were some modules that didn't work though. Anyways it just an alpha so we'll have to wait to final version.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rochs:
With the cm12 recovery, if you go to "Apply Update" then you can also pick zip files. But since it's pretty useless otherwise, the FOTA Kernel is the best option.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] know.i.dee:
I've flashed xPosed on Lollipop and after restart cannot install anything & that which was previously installed is no longer available!?!?!?