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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] eseregin:
I have just tried, works pretty well arter kernel :)

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Just to clarify points:

3. Call recording works if not using BT. Have not tried with BT yet.

4. In Ultra edition all this trash removed. :) Ultra works pretty well indeed.

I am on Arter 11.1 kernel now. It's pretty good!
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
so which one to keep...Is arter better for battery than idle????I keep JC kernel for now because I can undervolt it..............
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] eseregin:
Not sure about battery at all... Think they all pretty close one to other. Never used undervolt, and really dont know if Arter kernel allow it. It just works 8-) Yes, Idle pletty pretty good as well, think those two kernels mast have all people just in case 8-)
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] BERSERK79:
Hi can you give me the link of this rom ZSUGOL1 Stock + Ultra + N5 Port, thank you.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Here
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] BERSERK79:
thank
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
I made a Light version of XXUGBOL3 rom (767 Mo), with Spen utilities and cameras mods and filters...........

and an ultra version without all.....529 Mo.......

is someone interested????????????
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nguyentankiet:
Yes
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Will up tonight.....but maybe you can flash ZSUGOL1 rom because you are from same region....

Just realized that last ZSUGOL1 stock rom was deodex,from origin.....

XX base are odex.......
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nguyentankiet:
No problem, i can deodex it
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Both boot fine and works perfectly. ...the ultra rom seems to be a little faster than OL1. ....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
XXUGBOL3 Light

XXUGBOL3 Ultra
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] manne48:
Can not use the links!?

From my Note3 with AudaxL L.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] m.4_ts@yahoo.com:
Sorry for a dumb question.. is OL1 a LL 5.1.1 rom? Just making sure i install the right kernel or my choice.. tnx buddies
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
just tested on computer without issues.........

no it's 5.0 stock rom, not 5.1.1.............
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nguyentankiet:
Use computer ok
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
The idle kernel Gsensor 7.0 I put in light rom cause me proximity sensor problem. ...I try arter 11.1 without success but idle 7.0 normal works normally. ......
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Mr.Salman:
BOL3 Ultra Is A BEAST..!!!

Post The Deodexed Version If Possible.

Thankyou
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] raspizdiaika:
ultra

Hi rayman and to all. How i can instal xposed on boa1 ultra ? I tried but i got boot lop. Sory for bad english
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nguyentankiet:
Try ver 79 of arter97
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
It s odex rom. I think you need deodex one.....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] raspizdiaika:
Ohh but i very like this rom great performance and battery life:) on lite rom of smokkie rom working xposed. But it is 5.1.1 :( maybie rayman can make ultra lite rom on 5.1.1 ? :)
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
I made a lite 5.1.1 rom, look few pages ago.........
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
I made an ultra based on XXUGPOK2 from master [MENTION=5150393]_alexndr[/MENTION] but without testing it

i will put the link if someone interested.........

if someone can compare B and P rom.............

EDIT : Link removed due to some FC....just tested this morning...sorry
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] bickas:
Any chance you could make a light version?

Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Not immediately, have not the time to test myself and cook for the moment. ....you have OL3 light if you want....

I will up POK2 again but without testing. ..if someone want to test..

Edit ÷ Link removed...
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nguyentankiet:
[MENTION=1488698]rayman95[/MENTION] why you dont deodex OL3?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] denicay:
Hi [MENTION=1488698]rayman95[/MENTION],

i'm using Phronesis v6.1 right now and i wonder, which in your personal opinion is best (smoothness, performance and battery life) between Phronesis v6.1 and Alexander XXUGBOL3 light version ?

Note 5 port Phronesis is a great ROM, however i keep thinking that a stock note 3 ROM is better.

Thank you
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Why must I deodex it?????there is so many deodex rom.with alexndr you can do it....

Agree with you....port rom can't be be better than specific rom...if you want custom rom maybe you an choose QS rom who have more options than alexndr but I prefer simple odex rom like light or ultra from alexndr. ....and you can choose arter or idle kernel on 5.0 stock rom...

But didn't test 6.1 only 5.0.....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] m.4_ts@yahoo.com:
[MENTION=1488698]rayman95[/MENTION].. how can i add back vpn services to the ultra rom? What apk's and libs should i extract and add back for vpn to work on ultra roms.. tnx for helping buddy
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Mr.Salman:
He'll not do that. i've requested that before n he ignored.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] raspizdiaika:
Hy rayman where i can get spen tools i use from you alexandr v29 v2 kitkat rom but i missing spen utilities from plau store not working:(
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
I don't ignore it, just find useless to do it but you can do it yourself here
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Normal all is removed. ...you need to flash V26 who was the last with spen utilities. ...
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
you have to add vpndialogs in system/priv-app.......but not sure if it's enough.....certainly not

but nobody can't say which files are needed for....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] denicay:
I share the same point of view. I will give QS rom and Alexander rom a try with your suggested kernels and see wich one suits my needs.

Phronesis v6.1 is way too good than v5.0, you should test it and notice the difference by yourself.

By the way, thank you for your reply and suggestions [emoji106]
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] raspizdiaika:
Who can give me link for alexandr v26? Thanks
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
ME....:D

V26 Light KK
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] denicay:
[MENTION=1488698]rayman95[/MENTION], Hi i installed BOL3 Light and i need arabic fonts for my daily use in some apps, like whatsapp, facebook, twitter ...). Do you have an updated version of L fonts, or shall i use the ones in the post #229 ?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
I think you can use old one, in case of problem I'll send one

i found the problem for the POK2 rom and up it....................

XXUGPOK2 Ultra
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] denicay:
I used the old L fonts and everything is ok. :good:

Just flashed GBOL3 and restored all apps and things i needed (a looong process), so i think i'll stick to it for a while at the moment :)

Is there any difference between GPOK2 and GBOL 3 ?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
it s different way of developpement by samsung......
[MENTION=5150393]_alexndr[/MENTION] said that Pxxx rom is better than Bxxx....with feedbacks from users....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nguyentankiet:
System BPB2 deodex by me

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_1ZDTi0uiQVNFdQR0tlcFlpRkE/view?usp=docslist_api
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] denicay:
i'm wondering if it is possible to add theme chooser to BOL3 Light or it only works on deodexed roms ?

i woud like to use MM note 5 icons and folders style.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
You need to flash theme center..it should work on odex rom.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] denicay:
OK I will do this. Thank you.

By the way, great battery life on BOL3 light with stock kernel on my 2 years old phone.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Nice....better than me.......with ultra. ....and idle kernel. ...
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] eseregin:
Probably watching movies? In movie watching using phone works pretty long time...
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Is someone interested to flash and test this rom "a la alexndr" N9005VJUGBOL3....??????

I ve not tested yet....don t know even if it boot...

But if Zxxxxxx rom boot why not Vxxxxxx..

or maybe XXUGBPB2 rom, more recent but with lower changelist than VJxxxx
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] denicay:
Not too much, just two episodes of One Punch Man anime (20 min per episodes). The rest of the time I use Twitter, surf the web, feedly, short videos on YouTube and vine , gmail , tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
XXUGBPB2 is on the way, will post link soon................

EDIT : Link removed due to some problems....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] guaruneri:
deodexed rom ?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] newintage:
He shares almost all ROMs in Odex
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Yes it s odex rom.....but you have plenty of explanation for converting to deodexed. ...
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] GregoryHouse15:
So, first I must flash the modem and the bootloader, and next I can flash the light ROM, right?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
exact...:good:
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] GregoryHouse15:
Another question...

It's necessary flash modem and bootloader, although I have the same version?

Inviato dal mio SM-N9005 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
no, you can go..................forza!!!
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] GregoryHouse15:
Fantastic rom!

Inviato dal mio SM-N9005 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] MystaMagoo:
anyone know a fix for wifi not reconnecting after sleep?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
thank's, grazie!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
no need for fix with any roms, it's reconnect automatically..........
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] MystaMagoo:
no it doesn't though.

I choose option keep wifi on only when plugged in.

with android 5.0 it does not reconnect automatically from sleep.

with 4.3 it does and with 5.1.1 it does but not with 5.0

wifi fixer from play store can fix it but then I have problems with air gesture.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Did you update your modem and maybe change kernel by idle or arter97. .....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] MystaMagoo:
Not sure which modem I'm running (how to check?) and I'd rather not flash a kernel.

Can anyone confirm it is fixed by using the modem?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
I'm on BOJ1 modem and no problem. .check in settings your baseband. ...
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] MystaMagoo:
BOJ1 here also.

When I pick phone up after 20 mins or whenever and check wifi it says authentication error?

I'd be willing to test a kernel if it was possible to revert back to stock if that didn't work?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] bigfnfil:
Keep getting systemui not responding any help would be appreciated thx
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Dl idle kernel 7.0 and flash it...choose 8t for your specific phone and rom. ...if problem extract the boot.img from the romantic and replace it in the kernel and flash again....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Which rom which phone???always or sometimes ? ???
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] bigfnfil:
Rom XXUGBPB2 and i have SM-N9005
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
have not this problem on PB2 but sometimes the SIM card wasn't recognized by the phone, so I remove it

, certainly due to different region firmware, so I made a PB1 rom

sorry but you should install OL3 or POK2 or BP1 rom
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Civ BP1 is online

a big thanks to [MENTION=3986004]civato[/MENTION] to share with us.....all credits goes to him

original thread

it's a light version with Spen utilities
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] denicay:
Your impressions, if possible, about this ROM in term of stability, smoothness and battery life ?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
All good except battery life for the moment.....but flashed yesterday evening. ...all need to settle. ...but very smooth.....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] MystaMagoo:
USSD code *#0*# is not working on my phone did you disable them or something?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
All unnecessary stuff is removed....you need to read add removed apps....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] MystaMagoo:
Ahh my bad,didn't realise ussd was app related as some ussd codes do work?

*#0*# is like an engineer test code,which app would need reinstalling?

Voice commands don't work also.

Which app to install to make that work?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rezapn1255:
Dear rayman95

What about scrole capture in these stoke roms .

Any suggestions, please
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
finally, got the reason why the rom doesn't boot..I upgrade the BL and modem to last PB1 and no more problem

will reupload the stock rom and made after a light rom

XXUGPB2 Stock

XXUGPB2 Light

DON T FORGET TO FLASH GPB1 BL and MODEM
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nguyentankiet:
Why not post link same mega.nz/....?

Cant download it on phone
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Both goes on mega links....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nguyentankiet:
[emoji22] [emoji22]
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] eseregin:
Don't cry :)

I will try to reupload Light to One drive later...
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nguyentankiet:
Only want everybody download it easy, i have pc

But, thank you
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] eseregin:
Here it is on Google drive, thanks rayman for new ROM...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9csjmtqJDA_bUx4OW5pazFUbGc/view?usp=docslist_api

If it is unallowed to post mirrors, I will remove the link...
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] denicay:
Is it safe to dirty flash it over BOL3 light ?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
No....your phone will explode ! !!!!:mad:

If you update modem before you can dirty flash...
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
I put this link to have the number of dls. ...just to know how much. ....thanks for the mirror. ..
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] denicay:
Lol you got me. I meant is it safe from bootloop [emoji16]
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Before updating modem got Sim card problem and second time bootloop....after update no more problem...
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] denicay:
Ok then. I already updated bootloader and modem when I tried civato's GPB1 ROM . Thank you for the advice !
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nguyentankiet:
Hi, i copy samsungsans into system/app, set per and reboot

But i get fc setting when choose font. I need alot which apk?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
I remove most of the fonts in system/fonts, that's why........

you need to copy or flash them.....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nguyentankiet:
I copyed fonts folder from full rom, copyed samsungsans and still fc
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Did you check if the have good permissions and reboot????

What is f.cing???you want to launch a program or just want to change font???

You have also 3 or 4 aoks I removed, don't remember exactly the name but it s chock, cool. ..who are fonts too...
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nguyentankiet:
I want change font[emoji4]

Permission very good because i often do it
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Don't have fc....it just say me that's the stock font installed and propose to dl more fonts....will up later all around fonts files....maybe it's te Samsungsans in lib folder.....but I need to look on my computer. .
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
fonts pictures
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nguyentankiet:
Ok tks, i waiting[emoji4]
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
try this .........
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nguyentankiet:
thank man, it involve *EUKor?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
yes, that's it..
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nguyentankiet:
Why delete mms candy in clean.sh
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
It doesn't remove it...just flashed 2h ago....but will remove instruction in clean.sh...
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] fefuzzo:
where i can find gpb1 modem e bootloader to flash the last version of the rom?? thanks a lot
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Look to civaro thread for modem.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Is there someone who want to test the new firmware "a la alexndr "????
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] denicay:
Which firmware?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
VJUGBPD4 5.0

but not tested it yet......
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] eseregin:
Yes please 8-)
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] denicay:
Yes, I'm in too. Thanks. Do I have to update modem and bootloader ? If yes, I would appreciate a link :).

Thank you for your support [emoji106]
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
got big problem with my internet upload.....

will put Modem and BL link but if you re already with LP, you don't have normally to flash it...
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
VJUGBPD4 Stock

BL PD4

CP PD4

are online..please give feedbacks
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Modem and BL are online

please give feedbacks about the rom:good:
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
I want to thank the 40 people who do the rom and give all these feedbacks. ...it s too much. ..:(
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] dr_hard9999:
The links are broken and invalid
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Andrew59:
Nope.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] eseregin:
I have tested, works very good as usual for your ROMs. :)

Though have not yet flashed new modem and BL.

Thanks for new Rom !
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nguyentankiet:
What note 5 port?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
It was long time ago....tazzy N5....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
just installed PD4 version without any issues...the only thing changed is security updates to may 1st....otherwise still the same
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] davito:
works for hlte n9005 ?? Bl y cp pd4

Thank you.

Enviado desde mi Pepinote 3....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] denicay:
Sorry couldn't test it yet. I had some family issues, my daughter got sick these last days
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
yes it works on my N9005 without issues ..

I don't flash BL and modem but it works with PB1 modem and BL
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
that's not a problem, not only you dl the rom but nobody answer..

and finally i flash it 1 hour ago without issues
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] fefuzzo:
I installed latest versione (VJUGBPD4 stock) and i have "Messages app Force Close" and i can't open it. I deleted data files of the app, but the problem persist...how i can fix it??? i installed rom with BL and CP, and then i try ShinTo kernel...

EDIT: i install previous version of message app (from N9005XXUGBPB2 stock rom) and now all works good ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
what do you think compared to PB2??I don't know if it s worth to work on it, because it's exactly same than others and will return to my QS PB1 nandroid..
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] fefuzzo:
i installed this evening, and for now seems to be more stable (with previous version i have some auto-reboot). but now i found that also Camera app doesn't work....now i try to put the previous version of the app..

EDIT: now, with the previous Camera app (BPB2), all works!
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] eseregin:
I have tested camera, and it worked for me...
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
XXUGBPD3 stock is out

Enjoy

BL PD3

CP PD3

N9005XXUGBPD3_DevBase_v2.2_By Rayman95
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] timec77:
I've download the VJUGBPD4 Stock, Message App doesn't work and SIM card is not detected.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] GregoryHouse15:
I'm reading that message app doens't work.

Better to install another version?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] audiosystem:
Thank you nice Rom
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
look on last page, otherwise dl XXUGPD3 rom

thanks
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] GregoryHouse15:
So, I've:

Bootloader. GBP2

Modem: GBP1

Can I flash the new bootloader and modem without troubles?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
yes flashed yesterday without issues..
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] GregoryHouse15:
Thank you...

Now i'm on cm 13. It doesn't matter if i flash the modem and bootloader now and after I flash the rom?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
no..but uou can keep them without issues...
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] MystaMagoo:
I cannot get modem PD4 to flash?

Using CP PD4

Do we also need to flash NON-HLOS.bin for our LTE ?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
I include it in BL like alexndr does.....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] GregoryHouse15:
If you're still on KK, you need it.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] MystaMagoo:
I'm on LP.

So is not needed?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] GregoryHouse15:
Yes, because you need that file when you pass from KK to LP.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] MystaMagoo:
Ok but I'm already on LP not KK so not needed for me.

PD4 shows as baseband PD4 or PB1?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
No you don't need...

I don't know because I flash XXUGND3 BL+CP
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] MystaMagoo:
I see your post in other rom thread that PD1 is latest modem?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
yes..
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] MystaMagoo:
Got a link please?

Having a bit of 4g troubles so want to try diff modem.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] GregoryHouse15:
So, I'm on another stock rom, but I can flash this rom without problems, right?

(sorry if i'm too harassing :D)
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
BL PD3

CP PD3

EDIT : Why nobody says that I forgot to put the link rom?????????????

here is it

N9005XXUGBPD3_DevBase_v2.2_By Rayman95
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
yes no problem.....:good:
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] GregoryHouse15:
For you, it's better this version or the other version?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
XXUGBPD3 rom is better for European phones than VJUGBPD4. .....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] MystaMagoo:
Baseband/modem is actually PD1 or at least this is what I get when flashing CP PD3
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
yes, it's PD1 CP from PD3 rom
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Sjant:
What's wrong with PD4? Any bugs? And why do PD3 when POK2 has a higher changelist?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
don't know..I'm not in the brain of samsung dev......

european base has always less change than others firmwares, don't know why

and POK2 is a different branch of dev....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Mr.Salman:
Flashed the latest modem ,bl

flashed pd3

instant increase in signal and wifi reception and battery life too..

Only bug found so far : Google account settings fc

day 2 result below
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] MystaMagoo:
What's the benefit of flashing latest BL?

I get why for modem.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] vhsantos1:
error downloading on xda APP
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Dl with browser....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
Both work's better together. ....and combine great with his specific rom....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] bickas:
I might have missed it, but is there a Light version of the new N9005XXUGBPD3?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] rayman95:
No only stock for the moment.....nobody ask it for the moment...