yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] yinfo:
About 2 month ago,I had got very angry and I kicked my computer heavily. So I had to buy a new motherboard the next day because it was broken. You can buy a new motherboard just like what I did.It's not a big money.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] galt:
Keep us updated, hope you're back up and running soon. After all you ROM builders and WinMo gurus have done to help so many I hope you find many paypal deposits. The fact that someone would mock you for asking for help is pretty sad.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Midget_1990:
edit: probably shouldn't post personal stuff like that here...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] tin2404:
@ Midget

it seems that attacking people is very best that you can give...recent "Grayme case" here
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Midget_1990:
err, 2 posts out of almost 700. is no-one allowed to have a slipup?

and the 'make a decent rom', wtf?!? i know you have only been here since JAN but look around before you make sweeping statements...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] tin2404:
when I am gonna to use your ROM (now maybe never)...I will consider donation...shame yourself...You live in "wealth" country...I do not... I do not need to pray...why did you?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Tadeusz:
Midget, Just forgive this poor guy. He is blind and can not see what is going on around him. He did not get his lesson yet, that there are people who take, and people who give, but the people who take and give are the most happy.

And for Tyl and alike. Midget is the host of this place because he has spent his time to make something for others. If he was to ask for some help, it was not polite to comment on this, at least here.

I came here because I am already fed up with my lazy jasjar and wm5. And am looking for some alternative. It should be provided by MS or i-mate or HTC but they prefer to wait and charge us for their new products. Of course they would and could charge us for an upgrade, but they have those strange people in their marketing, who simple do not think.

And we are lucky that there are some people like Midget, Helmi or Jwrightmcps and others, who are trying to do what every user of this devices would like to get. We all bought WM5 devices because we believed that, like with PC staff we can count on supplier of the OS and we will not have to damp our devices after a year or so, when a new system will come. Otherwise I, at least, would buy Nokia. I have already full drawer of them and I've decided to switch to MS OS driven device only in hope that this one will last for little longer than a lifetime of one version of OS.

And that is why I am very thankful to all those people here who are working for thankyou.

Buy the way, I just sent you some donation, not big but maybe it will be useful for you.

Midget, I am still using wm5, because I do not have much time for fiddling with my jasjar. I am using it hardly, have Destinator for my navigation, few (about 4) voip softphones, and I live in Poland and am using Era network (they have UMTS). Please give me some advice, which of ROMs should I go for. Of course I am waiting for your new version, but it is going to be vanilla, isn’t it. I actually would like to have it ready for use on my jasjar with radio most stabile. Although I am also in programming (but for PC), I do not have much time to spend on my phone, you know. I also am involved in VoIP and that is why I use my jasjar for testing voip softphones in our voip network.

Hope you will get out of that hole with your PC, and that hope is pure egoistic, because I am here the one who is taking, not giving .:)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Midget_1990:
Not quite sure how that software works, but Z111325967569 is my 'purse number' if it helps? (all the FAQ etc is in russian :) )

Thanks :)

About what rom...

At the moment Jwrightmcps's Roms are the best i would say, and yes my roms will be vanilla, but a new type of vanilla. they will have programs in the ROM and just need to be 'activated' via CAB files (only using 1-2kb of storage instead of mb's) Radio 1.15.00 works great for me but overall people say that 1.09.00 is the most stable, hope i was some help :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] astraman:
you know it is a matter of Give and Take.....if we give donations so what we are going to take????.....and what is the gurantee???....for me i do not have problem with money....if Microsoft is selling WM6 i will purchase cuse i know they will gurantee there product....Do know the best ROM to use????....it is the one released buy Microsoft....the original ROM...i have been testing all the ROM's around....and i can say that the original is the best for the user who do not want bugs during the use if his device....this is my openion

regards
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] tyl:
Its the only place to comment on it. But its not the place to solicit money linked to development and distribution of tweaked MS code.

Im sure MS isnt too bothered about the work done here, but sure as hell that will change if developers start soliciting. -Legally, the difference is quite substancial. IMO, this thread and Midget's new one sets a bad precedent.

As for soliciting money on any public forums, thats

never

good practise. And always open to criticism or skepticism from others.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Tadeusz:
Really? So were can I buy a new wm6. I will be glad to do it. By now, they are trying to sell us new devices, but not new OS for old devices. I am programmer, am writing soft since early 80'. I am very grateful to MS for their OS and VS (I mainly use it in my work), but nevertheless, I have never heard of somebody gratified by MS for Windows bugs and blue screens. If my car gets broken because of faulty something, producer has to either pay for that or replace it. Luckily they have this habit of upgrading their OS, but only for PC. And what about Mobile? I paid $1300 for my jasjar HALF A YEAR AGO, and what, should I throw it and by a new one? It is lazy, it gets stacked every day. You think that I should go to MS and ask them for replacement? I haven't heard about i-mate willing to provide an upgrade for wm6 for old devices.

And besides, just have some politeness and stop this unpleasant discussion. This tread is started by Midget, it is like his home. We came here because we want to find something here and take it with us. He is willing to give it to us. Not? So why you are wasting your time here? Just go to some other forum if you do not like this place and do not bother your host and others. Do you often go to some people’s house and quarrel?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Midget_1990:
poke your head into the hermes forum.

i hear jasjamming made enough monry from donations to buy a 52inch plasma telly. this is not what i'm aiming for, all i want is to be able to continue R&D + roms for you guys...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] sergeantash:
I'm moving house, work really hard but still could do with some extra cash, anyone fancy donating? Or should I instead look after my hard earned money and save without begging from others?

p.s. GET A JOB....frankly don't know how you have the cheek to post this topic - fair enough if you were looking for help to fix your PC, i.e. troubleshooting, but to blatantly ask for money together with a link to a donation button?.......unbelievable...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] galt:
I don't get it, maybe there's some history here that I'm not aware of.

Midget has supplied some folks with ROM builds which many appreciate. He ran into some PC trouble and he has put up a link so anyone wishing to help get him back up and running can do so. They may be inclined to do so out of appreciation for the work he's already done, or to support future work that he may do. He's not charging for ROMs, he's not selling someone else's work. He's simply giving those who'd like to help him out a way to do so.

I'm always glad to have an opportunity to donate a bit to developers who have provided me with some service for free that I have found to be valuable. If Helmi and the other ROM builders who's work I've appreciated had paypal donation links I would definitely drop them a donation.

*Edit - i can't help but notice that almost everyone who's trying to make Midget look bad for putting up the donation link has not yet donated to the XDA Forums themselves (or at least not under the account they have posted under). Hmm...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Olipro:
he's asking for money... better than going out and mugging people for it.

if you don't think he deserves the money... don't donate... going to the effort of hurling abuse is unnecessary
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Olipro:
yo... dumbass, the USA is a "wealthy" country too, but you can't say everyone in the country is wealthy.

I suggest you lookup the true economic meaning of those words before you start throwing them around.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Shaun33:
Nothing comes for Free !!!

<rant>

What do we (the community) get out of u moving. SFA.

What do we (the community) out of Midgets having a functioning PC. More custom ROM's, which im sure your happy to dl and use.

Now the poeple moaning could wait for m$ to realease a nice ROM that does all they want (not going to happen). With all the custom fixes they want, OR they could pitch in, remeber that he is only asking for a "Small Donation", he is not forcing you to. If you don't agree then just don't donate simple as that. If you look in the Hermes forum there is alot of donating by alot of happy members. Nothing comes for free.

</rant>

Keep up the good work Midget
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] tyl:
So, what specifically is broken Midget? Im sure you must know.

How much exactly do you want? And how much has been donated so far?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Midget_1990:
Broken for sure is the motherboard, possibly the cpu and ram too as i have nothing to test them with. when i checked yesterday it was £20, how much i need is at least the cost of a new motherboard (i dont think jwrightmcps found one in his spares bin...), i havent looked recently but last time i did they were around £40-50.

is that ok with you?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] bwesty:
Im leaping to the defence of Midget, all the kid did was ask if anyone could spare a few dollars to get his pc back up and running. Not really worth the criticism it received.

@grayme, while i respect your observation it would be nice if you could be a bit more helpful and a bit less cynical.

@yinfo, you can go to anger management class buddy, i hope you don't own any pets or have any kids.

yes England is a wealthy country, in fact earlier this year London's economy overtook New Yorks. This thread was not started to dscuss economics and finance. If you harbour resentment because you live in a poor country then you should take it out on someone else.

How about you work a bit harder and stop wasting time by teasing the kid?

Frankly i could care less about you moving house. Fair enough your trying to make a point but to do it in a condescending manner such as this is shameless. You need to act a little more mature and consider yourself lucky that i care so little about your troubles that it prevents me from posting anymore about this matter.

I dont own a universal, i have very little interest in reading the universal forum. I was saddened to hear about the replies that young Midget received. Feel free to vent some of this flaming nature towards me in reply to all that i have said.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] LegolasTheElf:
Listen up *****es... You guys profit from ROM's and CAB's and fixes on here to make your $400+ phone work better than it did; a senior member fries his computer, the same computer used to make roms that you leeches use without so much as a thank you. He needs a bit of a hand as he's a student.. If you want to help, do so. If not, STFU and go back to leeching roms without so much as a single contribution back to the community.

People like jas, midget, oli, pof, etc.. all CONTRIBUTE back to this community in ways that they can. What have you contributed tin2404? Verbal diarreha? ****wit....
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] grayme:
Sorry bwesty, but you have to expect an answer that reflects the mood im in atm...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] sergeantash:
Oh sorry and who the f*ck are you? Fortunately I have even less consideration for *your* own troubles as you have of mine, you blatantly missed the point I was making...

Eitherway whether this guy's provided a few roms here and there or not, I haven't ever used one and don't have any plans to, frankly I don't care, I still think its bloody cheeky to post a topic specifically designed to gather funds from strangers!! Get a saturday job for christ sake if you're that desperate!!

I run a successful forum of 4000 members myself (focused community), they're ALL active users and yet donations are very slim, even with the amount of work I put into running it - I haven't donated to XDA Developers because I know that running such a site costs very little and although I've gained a little knowledge from it, its not 'changed my life' - thats me, but we're all different.

Anyway, enjoy the summer weather, I'm on a day off today and heading off for a cruise in my 42ft'er on the Solent...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] bwesty:
I dont have any troubles except for one over-zealous atm loving wanker swearing at me when there's no need.

If you thought the idea of this thread was cheeky then post a reply saying this. The thread wasnt started as an invitation for one and all to vent their troubles in a somewhat sarcastic manner and as a result compunding someone else's troubles.

If a random stranger approached you in the street and asked you for money, would you give him an earful about your trouble moving house? I think not. Stop using the anonymity and safety of a public forum to make someone feel bad.

Would you like to get this thread back on topic, or carry on arguing with me? The choice is yours.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] vbJoe:
ooooo Handbags time!!!!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] sergeantash:
I beg to differ on that one...

Yeah, I would give him an 'earful', I disagree with begging, I'd suggest that the person in question took the effort to get a job to bring in an income, to stop laying his troubles on everyone else and get on with life, students can have part time jobs!!! I used my 'house move' as a comparitor you idiot, you blatantly don't understand. You seem sympathetic to begging, why?

My opinions are seamless whether in front of a computer or not, perhaps you consider this forum a virtual safe haven? I see it for what it is, a discussion forum, with the occasional idiot that tends to always miss the point.

I'm not arguing with you, I'm expressing my opinion - that I strongly disagree with this chap begging simply because he can't raise a few quid himself to fix his computer!!! You're actually the 'wanker' (to use your own expression) that initiated this sub-thread...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] jasjamming:
You People Make Me Sick!

Its Not Like Midget Put A Gun To Your Head And Asked For Some Cash.

He Contributes To This Community And You All Benefit, If The Poor Guy Asks For A Bit Of Help, Well He Can, And If You Want To Donate Then Thats All Good, But If You Dont, Then There Is No Need To Flame Him.

By Flaming Him You Are Demotivating His Developmental Work.

If You Dont Like His Thread, Keep Your Thoughts To Yourself.

Midget, Glad I Can Help With Your Upcoming Build, Im Sure There Are Many That Will Enjoy It.... And Many ****ers That Will Leach It And Flame You In This Thread....
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] bwesty:
Beg to differ all you want i've already stated how little i care about you, Perhaps your impulse reaction to flame others prevents you from remembering what people have already stated?

Im not sure where to begin on this one. Not only were you unable to work out why i compared that scenario to the cowardly way in which you chose to make your point, but you also fabricated the idea that im somehow sympathetic towards begging. Maybe you could spend a little less time name calling and a little more time on your english literacy skills.

I think the house comparison is out of line, its an unecessary contribution to the thread. There were many more polite ways to voice your disapproval. Given that your post represents your opinion on the matter, and your post was worthless, some might find your opinion on this topic worthless.

Amen to that, take a look in the mirror, dont be too alarmed by the idiot that stares back at you.

I stood up for a person you obviously know nothing about yet are willing to flame. Not everyone is in the situation you were in while you were at college. I've yet to see how you know a thing about Midget.Given your lack of knowledge im unable to see how you are fit to judge him the way you did.

This is the part i want you to read. This is the part i want you to get your seemingly unused brain around. This is the part where i want you to remove whatever is lodged up your bum disabling your ability to comprehend the seemingly obvious. My point was and still is, if you were unhappy with the way Midget started this thread you probably could have said that in a much nicer way than the way you chose.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] sergeantash:
Have you not ever heard of expression? i.e. putting a point across (textually via a forum) translating your feelings towards the opinion?? Well there you go, that was the goal of my first post.

Bwesty you appear to be a forum tit/troll (judging by your previous posts asking people to correct their posts to your lame standards), the type that dislikes 'top posting' etc in newsgroups, whatever your personal posting preferences do everyone a favour and keep them to yourself, but allow people freedom of speech and expression to voice their opinions.

I completely disagree with this 'begging for money' to fix a computer, if people donate, fair do's but I'd expect them to be a little bonkers....

p.s. You're the chap that broke this thread into an off-topic discussion.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] tyl:
Tell me what CPU and Ram you have and Ill send you a suitable mobo for free if you remove the paypal link and refund all monies.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Olipro:
oh I know your type... you're the self-important idiot kind who swans about with no understanding that not everyone leads the same kind of life they do, and should anybody take any sort of action they marginally disagree with because "it's not the kind of thing I'd do so neither should you" then immediately they have a whine.

it's rather nice to see someone so stupid that they think people who beg are just too lazy to get a job... many of those people have serious problems and have lead very sad and troubled lives.

but then... we fall back to the point that you clearly can't comprehend this, so why bother considering the fellow man.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] sergeantash:
Oli, go play with your HardSPL, then get back out onto the streets, really can't be arsed to reply further...

TYL thats a kind gesture,
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Midget_1990:
Thanks tyl, i will refund all money given to me for a new motherboard, but just FYI all donations so far have been given to me for past, present and future ROMs/R&D (i have spoken to each donator). If i get any specifically for a new motherboard ill be sure to refund it (minus the 2x 2% PP take).
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Olipro:
yeah, I expected as much from you... avoiding an answer because someone actually made some valid points.

I'll quite happily play with it... now crawl back to your hole like a good prole and stop bothering people.

maybe you should considering donating for all the free software you've "sponged" since hey... clearly nobody deserves anything for free in your mind
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] tyl:
Sorry mate, but thats taking the whizz and you know it.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Midget_1990:
ok, that's up to you, thanks anyway.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] bwesty:
Try substantiating what you post instead of launching personal attacks based on your opinion of others according to their post history. What you wrote above is way off the mark, but to be expected i suppose given your apparent habit of judging others that you dont know. Thanks for affording me the luxury of looking through my post history. I care too little about you to do the same, but ive already stated that many times already.

I'll do it again whenever someone mis-directs their seemingly useless two cents towards someone i know alot better than they do.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] tyl:
No problem. Just wanted to demonstrate that you are scamming people for money and not just trying to fix your pc :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Midget_1990:
whatever you want to think... if you really want ill take pictures when i get it.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] galt:
Don't. Please stop feeding the troll.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] grayme:
That 'troll' offered to give him just what he was asking for and Midget tried to be greedy; I couldn't believe his response to the offer. Considering the terms behind the offer, to try to dictate your own....?

It is interesting that the initial post was basically 'please send money to fix PC' and instead people have started sending money for 'development'; so that's different...

Trolling or not, the term I believe is 'pwned'.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Midget_1990:
So just tell me how im meant to refund donations to people who dont want them refunded...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] grayme:
I don't care if you refund or not; my point was that at least Olipro's 'Shamelessly accepting donations for Hard-SPL and CustomRUU' is upfront and honest.

Someone offered to repair your PC (remember that was why you asked for money) if you gave back the money you had received and stopped the request; you tried to take him up on the offer and keep the money by claiming that people were just giving you money anyway and you lost out.

Why not just sell your ROM?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] apd:
Give it up

I have been away for a while and come back to find this thread - have just read it all in one go.

These arguments are frankly childish. Midget is not forcing people to donate. He is asking for donations. If you want to donate, do so. If you don't want to, then don't. It really isn't very complicated and certainly shouldn't engender the sort of flaming and language that I've just been reading.

This site is supposed to spread development and assistance for xdas. Some of the contents of this thread are an absolute disgrace and reflect badly on all of us. Time to move on, I think.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] vbJoe:
I've been watching this thread with great interest.. <sitting back while chanting *fight* *fight* *fight*>

Midget has done plenty of work for free, I believe for love of PDA and *not* for monetary reasons and the moment he hits hard times and lets ppl know that he's open for donations he gets burned to the ground.

Now I know some of the ppl arguing here have also done work on ROM building etc but come on, he’s a student! Even with a part time job he wouldn’t be raking it in, He still has food and beer to buy!!

I reckon its time to give with the flaming and ppl that don’t like it just let alone and don’t comment, don’t get me wrong I don’t mean offence to you guys because some points a good and valid but can a fella not ask for help? After all if you don’t ask you don’t get.