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[Nexus 5 General] MilkyJoePD:
Is this new: MusicFX has different settings for different apps?

Never noticed before, could have always been like that.

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Only if you get problems. It may seem better at first, but wiping without updating would also be better for a while.
[Nexus 5 General] SilkyJohnson:
It's a Motorola app (read package name) and I have AT&T. I clean flashed the factory images through fastboot and sideloaded OTA. Weird. Nothing AT&Tish in my install.
[Nexus 5 General] foosion:
Aha! In processor stats, tap the big green and grey/black bar near the top.
[Nexus 5 General] MrKaon:
Can you uninstall it from play store? Or it needs root to do so.

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Over all I'm very happy with 5.1 now performance can be compare with KK days.
[Nexus 5 General] goughymachine:
Thanks, I'll go look at that thread. I use navigation a lot and had had no issues on 5 till the update.
[Nexus 5 General] rolldroids:
I wonder at the high system RAM usage reported here. My well running Nexuses show about 230 MB and my bad running Nexuses 400 and more. So it seems not solved? I've got no 5.1 yet.
[Nexus 5 General] Isus <3:
That's how Android works. Android is coded mostly in Java and it's based on Linux. That's totally different than Windows. So the reason why is your ram variating on Android is because your phone needs to sync, update apps, and send you notifications from Facebook, Twitter and etc. So when you're not doing anything it doesn't mean your phone is doing nothing behind hood. While you're not doing anything your phone is opening some apps to check for new notifications, new updates, syncing your stuff and that kind of stuff. Windows does that but not so often and it doesn't need to do tasks so frequently because pc is more powerful and it saves some data so you it doesn't have to do it later.

Oh yes and I almost forgot. Pc needs to have low ram usage so it stays fast. On Android you can have almost all ram used and it will still be fast.

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The hell?
[Nexus 5 General] francescobabbaro:
I know it's a very small thing, but has anyone noticed that apps in multitasking view can be moved and "lock" on the bottom of the screen? There are two screen attached. I haven't understood the utility, yet, but I'm curious.
[Nexus 5 General] Isus <3:
Can you explain how did you lock them? Or they locked themselves?
[Nexus 5 General] francescobabbaro:
Oh, yes. You just have to swipe down, and the app will move. This works only when there is one app in multitasking.

Sorry for my bad English. [MENTION=5356915]Isus <3[/MENTION]
[Nexus 5 General] matteventu:
Just drag down the preview in the overview screen, and it will lock down :)
[Nexus 5 General] californicated:
5.0 was showing me negative ram consumption by system from time to time. Even more curious
[Nexus 5 General] thesebastian:
No. If you ever need to wipe with the official OTA. Then, the OTA is buggy.

The OTA is made to update from an specific version to a target version without any kind of wipes.

Sideload vs no sideload = same result, same OTA.zip and same update method (stock recovery).

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] Isus <3:
It works only if there's only 1 app in multitasking bar, can't see any advantage of this feature and it looks kinda useless so I think that's bug.
[Nexus 5 General] francescobabbaro:
Yeah, I can't find an advantage, too, but I don't think it's a bug, I'm quite sure that there wasn't in 5.0.1. [MENTION=5356915]Isus <3[/MENTION]

P.S. Tapatalk doesn't let me quote you for some strange reason...
[Nexus 5 General] Isus <3:
Memory leak wasn't in kitkat too, doesn't mean it's a new feature xD
[Nexus 5 General] francescobabbaro:
Ahahahahahahah You're right! [MENTION=5356915]Isus <3[/MENTION]

I don't believe that this is a new bug, but it could be. However, we should focus on more important features. Memory leak for me is fixed, but I read conflicting opinions about...
[Nexus 5 General] Isus <3:
Correct, it's fixed for me too.
[Nexus 5 General] Flyview:
I noticed something peculiar on Android 5.1. The phone no longer uses the network mode/type "WCDMA preferred". This has been very much simplified beginning with Lollipop. If you go to Settings, More (Wireless & Networks), Cellular networks, Preferred network type, you'll see the options LTE, 3G, 2G.

You can check the exact current preferred network type by going into the testing app. Go to dialer and dial *#*#4636#*#*, go to Phone information, then scroll down to "Set preferred network type". With 3G selected in normal settings, it is now using GSM auto (PRL). It used to be WCDMA preferred it would use with 3G selected. If you try to select WCDMA preferred now, it doesn't work (it's still on GSM auto if you leave and come back).

From what I understand, WCDMA preferred would prefer 3G even if the signal was fairly weak compared to 2G, whereas GSM auto (PRL) will pick the one with the better signal if the signal is low on one of them. I wonder what changed that Google no longer allows WCDMA preferred. This is relevant to me because I'm implementing switching of network type in one of my apps (LeanDroid). Anyone have some info on what's going on?
[Nexus 5 General] kicksilver:
Lollipop started showing separate ram consumption.

Was the system portion this high in Kitkat, Jb, etc?

Enviado do meu Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] MilkyJoePD:
I have no issue so this is just a question/general wonderment; in running apps, what's the difference between running services and cached processes?

Free RAM in running services is usually over 1GB and cached processes is usually just over 200MB.

Why is there such huge difference between the free bits? Does it mean it's free but ready to write over if necessary?
[Nexus 5 General] ChrKu:
The memory leak is definitely not fixed! (54h uptime) Shame on you Google!
[Nexus 5 General] kicksilver:
Unbelievable

Enviado do meu Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] Traxex_:
I'm going to get an iPhone...

Unbelievable they still didn't fix such a major issue.
[Nexus 5 General] porman:
Getting an iPhone is like downgrading. What's so hard with starting your day fresh with a reboot?
[Nexus 5 General] flex360:
showing your free ram is not indicative of memory leak

dont be stupid
[Nexus 5 General] ChrKu:
Pardon me? You know what you are talking about? See the system ram of 1 gb? THAT'S the memory leak!
[Nexus 5 General] n2rjt:
Has anyone noticed that screenshots are lower resolution than before?
[Nexus 5 General] Towerdragon:
No memory leak yet after 2days of uptime
[Nexus 5 General] kicksilver:
Screenshot, please.

Enviado do meu Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] fkloznica:
It depends on your usage. If you are a heavy user in 48h you will have system on 900mb,if you are a light user you can go easily for 4,5 days whit system on ~700,~800mb.

Google is showing its amateur side.. For 5 mounts time they can't fix it..
[Nexus 5 General] aldyu:
Wrong info.
[Nexus 5 General] jss2:
here are some screen shots that I just took of RAM usage. This is after almost 70 hours. System using only 306 MB of RAM.

uptime

RAM usage
[Nexus 5 General] borgsta:
Glad it's not just me. Took 29 hours but mine has become unusable crap again.

Stats

29 hours up time

System at 1GB memory usage

100MB free.

1 Unhappy customer most likely selling his nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] MilkyJoePD:
High RAM usage is good. The Nexus 5 isn't a PC.
[Nexus 5 General] mikeszf:
Still want to try?

-place the folder you extracted from the zip anywhere, lets say the desktop.

-type cd and drag the folder to the terminal, hit enter.

-place the fastboot executable on the same folder (or place it on /usr/bin/ so can be executed from anywhere).

-reboot the phone to bootloader

-drag the flash-all.sh to the terminal and hit enter.

-Wait.

-That's it, no need for drivers or anything else. I, for obvious reasons didn't connected my phone on the screenshot.

It will of course erase all your data.

if you're using a desktop I recommend you to use the back ports, always use the back ports on any computer for this kind of thing.
[Nexus 5 General] MilkyJoePD:
Why do people equate free memory with a smooth-running phone? What's the point in having a phone with 2GB RAM if you don't use it?
[Nexus 5 General] borgsta:
How about 20 apps sitting in a restarting state??

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App usage good

System usage bad
[Nexus 5 General] MilkyJoePD:
20 apps? It may not be a PC but it's not magic.
[Nexus 5 General] parag60288:
:confused::confused::confused:

After flashing stock 5.1 on my nexus 5, it is showing only 2.90MB available on system rom.???

Anyone noticed the same thing???

[IMG="No space on system rom after flashing stock 5.1 on nexus 5"]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/parag60288/XDA%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-03-13-10-12-37_zpsf6nomi11.png[/IMG]
[Nexus 5 General] anshmiester78900:
Those who have updated to 5.1 are you suffering for wifi disconnection when phone is in deep sleep ?
[Nexus 5 General] BennyJr:
My phone has not been into deep sleep. A wakelock called SystemUpdateService is causing it to stay awake
[Nexus 5 General] SpasilliumNexus:
I created a flashable zip that removes stuff I don't use, such as non-English keyboards. I'm sitting at ~30MB free now, even after swapping the stock boot animation for the 60fps version, swapping the stock ringtones for the "material" versions from AOSP, and pushing ViPER4Android FX to priv-app.
[Nexus 5 General] borgsta:
Handled it fine before lollipop.

Anyone also with crap gps since lollipop? Probably fixed by just downgrading radio but again shouldn't have to.
[Nexus 5 General] Gaffadin:
In TiBu my System ROM is showing as "1.05GB (0 B free)". I'm assuming this is why I cannot reinstall my custom boot animation (keeps failing with "out of space" when I try to copy to /system/media using ES File Explorer).

Is this by design? It wasn't an issue before, in 4.x or 5.0 / 5.0.1. Not sure why it's suddenly hit some kind of upper limit that I wasn't aware of.
[Nexus 5 General] ChrKu:
What bothers me the most is that seemingly nobody knows what is causing the increase of the ram usage of the system over time until a point where multitasking isn't possible anymore. Even the people at Google so it seems.
[Nexus 5 General] borgsta:
Don't worry according to some people it isn't an issue at all. I'm sure Google like the defence put up by people like milky
[Nexus 5 General] asawi:
My GPS actually is a little bit better than with 5.0.1. Once it had "calibrated" itself to my position. It took a long time though for it to "see" any satellitres at all, let alone lock them. Once it got going it is, lika I said, slightly better than it was with 5.0.1.
[Nexus 5 General] chrisinsocalif:
There have been a number of users in this forum that are doing dirty flashes and other questionable techniques which can compromise the integrity of your device which leads to issues. Before you complain about something being wrong, please ensure you flashed your device correctly and know what you are talking about before we take you seriously. It's harder to pinpoint problems (to help fix or pass to Google) when some are caused by user error.
[Nexus 5 General] ChrKu:
I wouldn't write in this forum, if I knew that there could be a problem caused by me. Of course I flashed the factory image and I know what I am doing. Fact is, that there is still a memory leak in the system ram. There are forums at reddit that tell the same and there is already an issue opened in the Google bug tracker for it:

https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=159738

I am happy for you, if you don't experience or notice symptoms like that, but don't discredit people for posting experiences they made. We know what we are talking about.
[Nexus 5 General] borgsta:
Was on a custom ROM so had to do a clean install. Even performed a factory reset to make my phone appear as 32GB instead of 16 as I flashed userdata during the clean install.

Phone has remained completely stock since flashing factory image.

There are also plenty of people doing things correctly that have been and still are impacted by this bug.
[Nexus 5 General] postm:
Same here on Nexus 6 with 5.1: "'IP configuration failure" on my work WIFI. It's ok at home.
[Nexus 5 General] fattymcdirty:
Any solution tò this one? Got the exact same problem... no deep sleep!
[Nexus 5 General] surrealjam:
Regarding the RAM issue, I definitely had this on 5.0.1. My experience was a little different, as I could see apps restarting and launcher redraws even when it said I had 700 or 800MB free memory...

I installed 5.1 from scratch using the factory images, and that was 62 hours ago. It hasn't been rebooted and free memory is showing as 800MB and it's holding apps in memory quite nicely. It's still early days, as on 5.0.1 it could be 4 or 5 days before I saw background processes being restarted, but at the moment I'm hopeful it's significantly better...

On a side note, I'm sure when I set my alarm to "snooze" this morning the phone said "shutting down" instead of "snoozing for 10 minutes" (or whatever it says)! However, the phone was definitely still on. Maybe I was dreaming though... there's a fairly high chance.
[Nexus 5 General] linj:
postm : check for Tasssadar's new build; it fixed it for us.
[Nexus 5 General] foosion:
The status of the issue is needs info and an AOSP project member & committer listed the info they want in response #5.
[Nexus 5 General] kamajikaciya:
I'm not sure but anyone who has a memory leak issue is using facebook and messenger. I'm not using facebook or messenger apps, just using facebook lite. Despite the fact that I'm using 5.0.1, I don't have any memory leak issues now, I had never. This must be considered.

By the way it's not issue of Nexus 5. It's an issue of Android. So if yo don't want it you can easily buy a WP or IOS. Buying another android phone won't ease your concerns.
[Nexus 5 General] kicksilver:
Stock kernel?

Enviado do meu Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] JonesL:
Why is a memory leak listed as a small priority?

http://www.computerworld.com/articl...pressure-reveals-three-more-windows-bugs.html

Dear Google, fix your own sodding bugs...
[Nexus 5 General] onesolo:
About the lack of space on the system rom, what was the free space on 5.0.x and on Kitkat ?? Can anyone tell us what was the free space on the system partition??

Why the hell they maxed out that??

oh boy... this is also a major issue for me...

On my work we have a femmcell that only works over 3G, so I have to be WCDMA only to prevent that it falls back to 2G where I dont have any signal... I also tried to set WCDMA only, but when I go back to those tools, its set on GSM auto (PRL)... the funny is that apparently it feels that its WCDMA preferred (or only), as I dont feel any loss on 3G network connectivity.
[Nexus 5 General] jss2:
Yes, stock kernel. Everything is completely stock, but I am rooted. (I just boot to TWRP to flash supersu to root, but I keep the stock recovery installed. If that matters.)
[Nexus 5 General] zerosum0:
That's not what its about. Its about learning more about your phone, and hopefully learning how to create things your self instead of being dependant on others. Its far more than a place to pick up the latest ROM to flash.

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It seems like a great update. RAM use is way down. Too soon for objective battery comments, but I put a new one in last week so I'll be in a grt position to tell.

Loving it so far. May not go back to CM12 ...

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Get something to switch off all the apps that start on boot and use RAM up. Makes a big difference. As they are not froze they start when you need them, instead of using power and other resources in background
[Nexus 5 General] mikeszf:
This is only 10 hours but before restarting it was about 2 days and system consumption was about 350mb. I din't liked lollipop at first, in fact this is the most time I have used it so I keep checking. And yes, I do know how unix-like systems reserve memory as on mac, about 95% of my 8gb tends to be reserved.
[Nexus 5 General] snajl:
hello, you have same problem with wifi to connect any wifi network?

i today upgraded to my n5 from 5.0.1 to 5.1, and bug still exist.

(sry for english)
[Nexus 5 General] fkloznica:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=159738

This is a joke... Google wtf...

For me is easy to recreate the problem, simply start a game like Farm Heroes Saga, then close it by swiping away. For each time I do this the system memory increases 100mb or more until there is no more space and then cell phone stops responding. Additional I noticed than when I start Farm Heroes Saga for example the free memory on ‘Show Cache Processes’ is negative as can be seen on the print I took, and there is no free memory, this problem can be recreated even in the first minute after boot simply by starting the game. Even if I don’t play any game the problem appears but not so soon and apps start to restart sooner or later.
[Nexus 5 General] Henrock11:
I just received the OTA update this morning. So far I'm really liking it. Its running a lot smoother than 5.0.1. Anyone else get the actual OTA update?
[Nexus 5 General] Nexonian:
Running 5.1 (unrooted, all stock, OTA via adb sideload) since a day. Phone is perfect, much smoother than before. Battery life seems to be good aswell.
[Nexus 5 General] Danny 0311:
OK. For the sake of my sanity, let me say this. Last night while surfing the web for a solution to my problem, i ran across a terminal code that would tell me if my N5 was plugged into a "working" usb port. My N5 showed up exactly where it was supposed to be, but when i started entering commands(adb devices, ./adb devices, etc) i got "no such command", and all the other b.s. that goes with it. Now, i follow commands very well, as i was in the Marine Corps, so either i go blind when i'm typing, or just maybe the cable that came with the N5, doesn't send data through it, anymore(a real possibility). Since i'm not sure, i will buy a better data+charging cable, and try again. If i still can't get it to interact with my N5, i will ask you for the help which you have kindly offered. I may need to buy a book called "How to use the Mac Terminal...for Dummies". Talk to you soon. Thanks again for your concern.:)
[Nexus 5 General] efrant:
The problem is (and it has been mentioned to you before) is that you don't have the fastboot and adb files on your Mac. These commands are not native to MacOS. You need to download them. And you need to make sure you have the latest version of them.
[Nexus 5 General] snappycg1996:
The simple fact of the matter is that the memory leak is still very much present in 5.1, at least for the Nexus 5. Even though it was supposedly "fixed" months ago. Now, the 5.1 experience IMO is much better. It doesn't leak as fast as it did, but it definitely still does. I haven't had the launcher redraw but 3 times now, and that was after 2 days of use, but after the day it got insanely slow. It was lagging, apps would crash (Instagram especially) and it felt like 5.0/.1 when the leak was happening. For anybody claiming it isn't there, you must be a very light user. What I do with my phone primarily is play Clash of Clans, use FB, Instagram, Twitter, Pinterst, Kik, FB Messenger, Chrome and that's basically it. Nothing else. I wouldn't even call that a "heavy user" and yet I experience it. It is much faster than 5.0/.1 as well upon a reboot.

Also, I have noticed that TWICE now I restarted my phone and it stuck in a bootloop. However when I restarted it, it said "Optimizing apps, Starting Android" and it took about 15 mins to optimize everything. It's happened twice now.

And yeah, I flashed the factory image, AND wiped the phone. It isn't an error on my part, and anybody saying it is all user error obviously don't understand how memory and system cache and RAM even works, and must be completely oblivious to the thousands of complaints on Google forums, various Android forums including XDA, and various social media sites.

And as for battery life? It's the exact same for me. Just like how I knew it would be. 2.5 hours SOT is best I can get, full airplane mode all day, greenify, no wakelocks, and nothing consuming battery in BBS. Except my daily usage apps.

I guess Google doesn't know how to fix their own issues. Either that, or (my guess) they simply do not care anymore. It seems the Nexus program is dead and gone. Android One had 5.1 weeks before us and now not every Nexus got 5.1 the same day. On top of that, the whole Lollipop release has been a flop in my opinion. User complaints galore, bad battery, various other issues, cellular issues, radio issues, GPS issues, horrible OTA times, terrible release times. AND they had what was it... 5 months? 4? To fix all these issues on Lollipop, and it seems to me that barely anything was fixed. What a slap in the face. 5.1 brought along more issues, including this ROM memory issue? And didn't fix the leak. Maybe made it better, but not "fixed" I can easily bump the Android version number up to 5.2, it won't make a difference in the software either, which appears what Google did for the most part. I can't believe all these horrendous bugs are still in Lolliflop. KitKat was just fine, why can't they fix this?

This wasn't supposed to be a rant, but there it is.
[Nexus 5 General] Danny 0311:
They are in the "downloads" file, in my Finder. Both adb & fastboot exe's are within a folder named "android-sdk-macosx-tools. How do i find out if they are the latest? When i double click on each one, i get a whole bunch of stuff on my terminal. I'll send along screen shots.:confused:
[Nexus 5 General] efrant:
Ok, those should work. Now, those files need to be in the

SAME

"folder" as the image files that you downloaded.
[Nexus 5 General] borgsta:
Fairly similar range of apps here. I find it really noticeable when I start to use link bubble.The app is almost unusable with stock lollipop for me.
[Nexus 5 General] mikeszf:
In finder press cmd+shift+g and type /usr/bin place the fastboot and adb in that folder, it will prompt you for password. That way both will be "installed" then you can do what I told you on my earlier post, though omitting the part were you put the fastboot on the android image folder because it will be already installed.
[Nexus 5 General] Yaz75:
Never mind
[Nexus 5 General] fkloznica:
2 treads. This and cata.. It is for all noobs and google lovers that are acting like there is no problem with this beta OS
[Nexus 5 General] Yaz75:
And no matter what, I have no problems with this OS. I've been a user since the G1 so I'm not a "noob" or apologist. In no way have I had a single solitary condition like you and others are describing. If me having no issues makes me a "Google Lover" then you and others constantly complaining makes you "Google Haters" by the same logic.

But feel free, carry on. Nothing will change your mind either way. In no way can it be remotely possible that you've done something to cause these bugs at all. Nope. No conceivable possible way at all. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 5 General] Danny 0311:
I have a file called...image-hammerhead-lmy47d. It's sitting right next to the adb and fastboot exe's, inside the tools folder.:)
[Nexus 5 General] BennyJr:
This is a whole different ball game coming from kitkat. The new runtime is obviously still needing development. I feel as if its not just a ram management problem but something bigger.
[Nexus 5 General] efrant:
Ok, so your folder should contain these files, with no subfolders, correct?

adb
bootloader-xxxxxx.img
fastboot
flash-all.bat
flash-all.sh
image-hammerhead-lmy47d.zip
radio-xxxxx.img

EDIT: I just re-read your post. You need to extract the files from within the "image-hammerhead-lmy47d" file. Your folder should have all the files that I mentioned in this post.