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[Windows 8 General] peroxidex:
I'm having the same issues that [MENTION=6269097]orditeck[/MENTION] was experiencing. I have a Pipo W3F and I admittedly didn't know much about W8 when I received it. I did a full format and reinstall of W8. I have been able to get everything working except for sleep mode and my cameras. I've disabled Wifi, uninstalled the drivers and reinstalled the ones from the W3F driver package numerous times with no success. I was able to restore sleep mode eventually by simply rolling back to 'Microsoft Default Display Driver', but this severely hinders it's performance and seems to just turn the screen black, not actually turn it off.

Now for a somewhat related question, I had used a program to grab the W8 key before formatting as that's what I would normally do with W7. Obviously this did squat as the key is embedded in the BIOS, but this is irrelevant as I simply used Windows 8.1 with Bing and it activated itself upon installation. The issue is that the program that gave me the W8 key never mentioned anything about a Office 365 key nor did I see any of the programs installed. Did I get jipped and not receive Office 365 with mine or is it similar to W8 where I just need to install it and voila?

UPDATE: I was able to get the rear camera working, but the W2F driver package I got did not have the driver for OVTI2680. Hopefully [MENTION=6269097]orditeck[/MENTION] pops back in and can help me with that. I also tried the graphics driver from the W3 and W2F with no success in fixing the sleep issue. :(
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
[MENTION=6782465]peroxidex[/MENTION]; just repeating some findings from this thread:

- Updating graphics drivers is just a no-go, use the ones provided in the driver packages, my best guess is that its because pipo made some manual tweaks. (default drivers do make the machine sleep properly btw)

- Please dont mix up W3, W3F and W2(F), although it may not seem like it, they do in fact all have different hardware, hence, different drivers. These should be W3F drivers

For the camera's, did you try rebooting between every step? Removing the drivers from windows completely? (its a check-box when you uninstall a device in device manager) try follow the guide in this post (note that that guide mentions the names/models of the camera's in the W3, not the W3F)

[MENTION=3934457]misbehave[/MENTION];

This may be a usable starting point, just please be careful, that guide is actually for the W3

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, or you could wait on other people to reply, fairly sure there were posts here from people that got dual boot working (and then complained about it not wanting to boot windows anymore, so yea, you may just not even wanna try in the first place)

[MENTION=2379396]Linkito93[/MENTION] & [MENTION=6314138]_gl[/MENTION];

Thanks for the details guys, based on your comments i've been installing all recommended updates, and checking Task Scheduler after each batch, but so far no luck yet, will post about this again if anything changes.
[Windows 8 General] misbehave:
Thanks, I have actually given up trying to get this thing to dual boot.

With the rate they are pumping out new models everyday and the price keep getting lower and lower, I think I will just get a factory built dual boot model next time when I visit Asia.
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Prolly a good call :)
[Windows 8 General] peroxidex:
I've tried countless times while restarting, but I shall try some more after work. Isn't that the definition of insanity? Repeating the same tasks while expecting different results? :p

As [MENTION=6269097]orditeck[/MENTION] said, the drivers included in that package are NOT the camera drivers required for the W3F. I have verified that I have the same hardware as him before trying the drivers he has recommended which happened to work for him and myself. The front camera has no drivers installed, it's an unknown device.

UPDATE: I just Googled "'Camera Sensor OV2680", managed to find a driver this time. Installed it and now my camera works and the red light is gone! As orditeck , the colors seem washed out, almost greyscale, but at least it works!

UPDATE2: Followed your guide, tried all 3 drivers from W2F, W3 and W3F. W3 allowed me to come back from sleep, but the LCD would not completely shut off and I couldn't change the brightness. W2F and W3F were able to change the brightness, but no sleep mode again.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
My Win10 stuff was slightly wrong, try running this from an admin command prompt:

c:\windows\system32\schtasks /run /tn "\microsoft\windows\setup\gwx\refreshgwxconfig"

OR

"Reddit user FearGX_ explains that you can force the update to do its thing. We’ve reformatted his instructions below.

Open the Control Panel, choose Administrative Tools, and then fire up the Task Scheduler.

Expand Task Scheduler Library, then Microsoft, then Windows, and finally scroll down to expand Setup.

Click the folder GWXTriggers and on the far right hit Run.

Again, this will only work if you’re running a legitimate copy of Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.1, have KB3035583 installed, and have all the latest updates."
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Okays, thanks for the details, guess ill have to wait till i get said update then. (which so far i dont)

Thanks :)
[Windows 8 General] Marvido:
Has any found a solution, to charge the tablet when your on the go ? thats really a big deal if you cant recharge if you are travelling, for me atleast. Otherwise i would probably get this one over the Chuwi due to the slightly better screen.
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Wooh, all of the sudden, without ever seeing said update, and while the given command was telling me the command was erroneous, i now see the win10 upgrade, registered for it :)

Thanks for the help :D

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[MENTION=5942828]Marvido[/MENTION];

You will need to carry the charger around, afaik it does not charge via usb.

If you really wanted too, you could cut the cord of the charger, find an external battery with same voltage and ampere, and then diy that into an external battery you can use with the tablet.

But really, just charge it overnight and bring the charger for the few cases where you do actually run out of juice, personally i've yet to encounter this, and (besides using it for mail and random browsing) ive been playing hours of GTA:SA a day on it without issue, in general theres still roughly 25% battery left at the end of the day. (~10pm)

If you want it to work longer then a day, then simply put, dont look at chinese tablets.
[Windows 8 General] Marvido:
If thats the case i am less worried, as i might have to take public transportation for 6 weeks that might end up in 5-6 hours daily travel time.

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Another thing...I would really like if i buy it to get windows 10 on it. But wont that remove the android ?

Not that i mind, as i have no intention of using android because i want to have a entire windows sytem with mobile phone, tablet and desktop pc
[Windows 8 General] misbehave:
It can be charged via the micro usb port.
[Windows 8 General] Marvido:
I couldtn resist, so i went ahead and ordered one from Gearbest where i found it cheapest. With expited shipping i hope it wont take to long.

Well if it does charge from micro usb it would be great, but havent found any place mention it can :)
[Windows 8 General] Jabberrr:
Not sure where you're located but I would suggest switching it from Expedited shipping to their Standard/Regular shipping option unless you want to get hit by brokerage/customs fees.

Also, regarding the charging, from what I've read, the Pipo W3 can be charged via the micro USB port. However, the Pipo W3F does NOT have this feature. I have a Pipo W3F and can confirm that you cannot charge this tablet (W3F) via the micro USB port.

Source: http://techtablets.com/pipo-w3f/review/

Since the Pipo W3F's charger outputs 5V 2.5A, I've ordered a USB to 2.5mm DC cable to see if that will charge the tablet. If it works, you should then be able to use any battery pack or USB charger to charge the tablet instead of having to use the included charger.
[Windows 8 General] peroxidex:
Let us know how that turns out!

As for the sleep issue on the W3F, I have finally resolved it with some help from someone who didn't mess around with their tablet! :D The driver included in the package is a bit newer than what the W3F shipped with. After I installed the 10.18.10.3643 version from 6/11/2014, I was finally able to put it to sleep and bring it back! The LCD actually turns off while in sleep mode as well!

Much thanks to [MENTION=4021179]JasonYo[/MENTION]ng19 who provided me with the version number it shipped with!
[Windows 8 General] Marvido:
Can you please clarify Expedited shipping to their Standard/Regular shipping option about the custom feeds ?

I live in Denmark, last time i got a china tablet it was with fast DHL delivery from HK and got here without problems. But ofcause i would like to avoid the extra charge, so it is sent as gift. But that doesnt make any difference ?

Not even sure how i can change that ?
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Yep mine can, but it's slower.

That sucks.

Should work, but you may be limited to 500ma (USB2.0 limit except for some specialist charge protocols that may not work) so it could be a lot slower. Also 2.5mm is a full-size plug (like the similar 2.1mm), I assume the W3f takes 1.7mm (or 0.7mm?), so you'll need an adapter. Also double-check if the PSU uses center-positive or negative convention, getting it wrong will fry some devices (many don't have polarity protection built in).

Personally I would just buy a generic 2-3A 5V PSU on Ebay with an adapter if needed. But check the polarity.
[Windows 8 General] Jabberrr:
Sorry, I should have clarified.

At Gearbest, they have the following shipping options: Flat Rate Shipping, Standard Shipping, and Expedited Shipping. I haven't had experience with their Standard Shipping but I have read that if you select Expedited Shipping, they use DHL and DHL typically collects brokerage/customs fees. However, if you select Flat Rate shipping (Auto, Netherlands Post, or Royal Mail), there's a lower chance of getting charged fees. I selected Auto when I purchased my W3F and I wasn't charged any extra fees.

If you want to change shipping methods, login to Gearbest and go to My Order. Select your order, click the Send / View message link and you should then be able to create a ticket to get your shipping method changed.

Also, it looks like Gearbest now sells the keyboard/case so that may be something you want to look into as well. When I bought the tablet at the end of May, they didn't have the keyboard/case yet so I had to order from eBay.

Thanks for the heads up on polarity. I remember reading your post way back in this thread about it being center-positive. I also double checked the adapter itself and the diagram does indicate center-positive.

In any case, will update you guys once the cable comes in.
[Windows 8 General] Marvido:
I have tried to contact Gearbest, will wait and see what they reply. Otherwise i hope that it will be the same as last time i got a tablet sent with them. But i did order the keyboard sleeve as well at the same time ;)

Besides that i found you can get a USB to 2.5mm Inner / 5.5mm Outer DC cabel that might work with a power bank. But that would need a heavy power bank i think, directly made toward tablets ?

Not sure i am allowed to post links, otherwise i would have.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Cool, yeah most things are center-positive these days, it's actually safer as the current source is inside the plug and not exposed to accidentally short out with anything. But the odd device swaps it around, usually to force you to buy their expensive adapter. You can design a circuit board so it doesn't do any damage if you get it wrong, but many don't bother to put that protection in.
[Windows 8 General] Marvido:
Bummer...both keyboard sleeve and screen protector will arrive much later due to out of stock.

Has the Pipo been released with later models, or are they the same as first batch ?
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
The keyboard is quite the weird subject, so far, in this thread alone, we've spotted 4 different versions.

It appears that PIPO started shipping the W3 (and possibly the W3F) with a keyboard that had status leds (like capslock numlock etc) but nowadays there only seem to be versions around that dont have said leds.

Besides the leds, theres at the least 2 different versions of icons on the keys, and theres also a version with a "for Windows 8" badge on the cover, and one without (where as the origional one with leds had a pipo logo on the cover)

All in all, theres a whole slew of keyboards floating around, they all work, but you may get (un)'lucky' and get a keyboard similar to the below (that i got at first, and has since been replaced)

http://imgur.com/a/XIvLb

Multiple people have shared photos of their keyboard cover in this thread, page 15 and 16, check them out if you want to see more versions :p

I got my tablet replaced due to some issue with the bluetooth, and because of the silly keys shown in the pictures linked above i sent the keyboard-cover along too, and the replacement came with a separately packed keyboard (unlike the first package where they where packaged up as 1) so im guessing they need to find you one of those seperate keyboard coveres aswell.

Finally, the screen-protector on both tablets (the original and the replacement) was applied with dust and air and stuff below it, so i just pulled it off in the first few minutes of use, so i sincerlly hope you get the screen-protector as a separate (not yet applied) item, else its just wasting delivery time.

Interesting, i remember reading somewhere it couldnt charge via usb, guess that may have been about the W3F then? either way, nice to know, thx for the info :)

You where just exceptionally lucky i guess, in my experience (recieving packages in the netherlands) they always sniff out the packages, even when specifically labeled as being worthless.

Ontop of that, they (post/tax/border office) can be real dicks about it if they find out a package is labeled with a incorrect value (or none at all) so be carefull.

Personally, i used all those shipping options on another chinese webstore (BangGood) and each time the post/tax/border office found out, so nowadays i just go for expedited, takes like 2 days top's to reach me, quite the difference with the 3-5 weeks it can take to reach me otherwise, if that ruins my chances of ever getting a package trough without having to pay taxes, so be it.

Offcourse you are, everybody in this thread is in the "we like cheap chinese tablets/webshops"-boat, so really, theres no downside to sharing your favorite chinese webshop :P

Making a seperate thread just to talk about a shop may be another thing, but just sharing some product page links in a thread about said product is a-ok
[Windows 8 General] Marvido:
Sounds like it can be an interesting experience with the keyboard sleeve, this is how it looks where i ordered : http://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_198771.html

But if it is what i will get is another matter i guess ;) I dont think it look like the one with leds on it, i didnt notice that they actually made several crappy models, only thing i took notice in was that the cover is a dust magnet.

This is the cable i mentioned that might work with a power bank : https://www.av-cables.dk/usb-2-0-ad...zLBHOgvP30nnc2gaPDvgRIgpDTBu9C7fAQaAt938P8HAQ

Stil lwaiting for it to be shipped, even i had word on friday that they would ship monday. But i recall that things from China can take a while before they acutally ship it. No idea why that is....
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Weird one, it has an FN key but no FN functions marked?

Some sellers probably buy in on demand, or ask the factory or a middle-man to drop-ship to customers on demand. The whole China tech trade thing is a mystery, where agents will often call themselves 'manufacturers' even though they don't actually make the thing.

Personally I'm leaning away from importing from China. I'm getting tired of the advertising lies, the (semi)faulty hardware or advertised items missing, wrong country adapters included (which is just sloppy), no support except expensive shipping and long wait times (plus no guarantee it actually gets solved correctly), the clueless sales reps who cannot answer simple technical questions or other pre-sale questions correctly, and of the dodgier sellers that outright lie (as me and Hendrickson discovered)... etc. All that stuff was worth the gamble or extra leg work required when the prices were a lot better, but now I just don't think it's worth the hassle anymore. As I need better sustained perf than CoreM anyway I'll wait to see what MS do with SP4 and what happens to used SP3s. Shame as I started the W8 thread as it looked a good upgrade from my W3.

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You will need an adapter for the DC socket end, as that is a full-size 2.5mm and the Pipo is either 1.7mm or (more likely) 0.7mm. You can get those cheap on Ebay though, eg:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_f...+2.5mm+0.7mm+adapter+-40&LH_PrefLoc=2&_sop=15

There's also eg. 0.7mm versions of your USB cable, but check the size the tab takes.
[Windows 8 General] Jabberrr:
Just received the USB to 2.5mm DC cable today. It definitely charges the Pipo W3F but I will have to do some testing to see if it's charging at the full rate (>= 2.1A) or at a slower rate (0.5A). Note that the 2.5mm refers to the outer part of the plug, not the inner portion. The inner part looks to be about 0.7mm or 0.8mm.

Here's a link to the item on DealExtreme: http://www.dx.com/p/dc-2-5mm-plug-to-usb-charging-cable-for-tablet-pc-100cm-217276

Will update this post later on with my findings.

Update: Using BatteryBar v3.6.6 in Windows 8, here are the charge rates in mW:

USB port on desktop PC: 1480

USB port on Anker Astro 3E: 2013

USB port on Dell monitor: 1894

Original charger: 1658

I don't know how accurate BatteryBar is so I would take my findings with a grain of salt. In addition, I don't know if the battery will report a faster or slower charge rate based on how much battery is left.

In any case, the tablet does charge with the USB DC cable so I'm totally happy with my purchase. In the event that the original Pipo charger dies or gets lost, I at least have a backup now.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Ah OK, '2.5mm' can mean the inner diameter of the plug (ie. the hole), or the outer one. I was talking about the inner (most people quote either that or both).

So yours is 2.5mm (outer) x 0.7mm (inner). The one [MENTION=5942828]Marvido[/MENTION] linked is 5.5mm x 2.5mm and won't fit.
[Windows 8 General] Marvido:
I cant remember where i found the size, but good it was corrected. I will get the right one from the link. Sounds really good if it works, will be nice to have as back up or for out from home if needed :)

And finally my tablet is shipped today with sleeve and screen protector, now its just to wait and hope it gets here fast and with out tax or other import duties. I hope the keyboard is the right one, i have no idea if it is the one depicted or something else. I will post some pictures when i finally get it home.

Is any one actually gaming on it ? dont plan to do much of that myself, but maybe some torchlight 2 could tempt a bit some times.
[Windows 8 General] Hyperhonda:
Games

Can you run common pc games like Dead Island, Far Cry, Resident Evil, etc. On PiPo W3?
[Windows 8 General] Marvido:
Arrived today, so here is a picture of the keyboard that i ordered.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9hbIXneBd5KZ2d6XzBWNVo5Y1k/view?usp=sharing

Dont know if you can see this picture ? otherwise i will find another way to share it...

I am trying to get rid of the chinese language, but still there after removing the language pack so far. In the process of upgrading windows, though it seems to just hang on the download for now. There were 2 profiles when launching windows one "admin" and one called "s" is that nornmal ?
[Windows 8 General] Auke11:
Anybody know a good screen protector? Preferably a glass one?
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Anybody else have this happen? Ive been happily using my new Pipo W3 for a while now, but since idk when (95% sure some automatic update) the camera broke again, re-installing the driver gives no difference.

The light of the camera is always on now, and when i try reinstall driver (with reboot in between) it quickly flashes during installation, then it goes to always-on again, and windows tells me there was a power failure..

Oh and besides the camera, more problems are popping up:

- Sometimes the touchscreen doesnt work at all, requires a reboot to get working again

- The rotation sensor no longer works or something, if i rotate the tablet nothing happens, if i check the settings for it, there are none (as if it cant see the rotation sensor anymore)

All 3 started happening last week, been using the tablet with care, and have only let it install automatic updates.

Any input highly appreciated. :(

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You're able to game with it, if you meant the first version of each game, you can prolly run them without trouble, if you meant more recent versions, you'll have to tweak the graphics settings to get playable framerates.

You can game, but dont think its anywhere close to a recent desktop gaming pc, games like CSS and Portal2 run fine (because the source engine used for that is great at 'scaling') but others (CS:GO) run considerably worse
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
I never use the camera so can't help with that one.

Not seen that one before.

That one has happened a few times on mine. (from memory) Try Device Manager -> Sensor something group -> right-click disable and then enable the Simple Orientatinon Sensor. Or if that doesn't help, do it with the other entry in there. One of them works for me without having to reboot. Haven't found the cause yet, maybe a Windows update as you said.
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Yeah, never really use the cams either myself, and cant really be bothered if they did infact break somehow, but the light constantly being on freaks me out (even though im running nod32) as if somebody is watching me :p (since i know it used to only be on when the actual cam was on)

Touchscreen just doesn't work ~1/5 times, i do however always leave the keyboard 'plugged in', so it may relate to that, ill try boot it without the keyboard attached a few times over the following days to see if that helps.

Disabling and re-enabling the 'Simple Device Orientation Sensor' actually fixed it! :highfive: ****yeahhh! thanks for the idea :p
[Windows 8 General] gingerprince:
Buzzing Microphone

Hi All

Received my W3F this weekend - all seems well except the microphone - there's a terrible buzzing. Don't expect it to be perfect, but it's really bad - so won't be really usable for Skype etc.

See attachment for example.

Can anyone confirm if theirs is the same and they're all this bad, or have I received a lemon?

Thanks.
[Windows 8 General] arnonram:
So... Will you be upgrading your pipo w3 to Windows 10?

My gut says "yes", and I like listening to my gut :D
[Windows 8 General] misbehave:
I will probably wait for others to be lab rats first, but I think eventually I will upgrade my w3 to Win10.

But for my other main working laptop, I will stick with Windows7 on that one.