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[Windows 8 General] _gl:
You can always use a standard USB charger (with a microUSB cable) if the 9V charger ever goes down, it will just be slower. And I don't think it's proprietary in the sense that it's just a thin version of the typical 2.1mm DC jack, you can probably find an adapter for a generic 9V supply (just needs to be the correct polarity and >= the amps the tablet needs).

Main cons I'm aware of are no GPS, and screen is not optically bonded. It will be interesting to see how much of the sRGB colour space it covers, and what the black levels are like (I can measure that with my colorimeter when I get it). 4GB would have been nice. And even though it's a higher-end Baytrail CPU, Core M tabs will be faster (but also look like they're going to be super-expensive).

But the full-size USB 3.0 is very handy (main reason I bought mine), looking forward to getting it in my grubby paws :).
[Windows 8 General] misbehave:
Great pics and write-up.

I have also received my W2 a couple weeks ago.

Glad to know that this thing can be charged via the micro usb port so that I can put my 10000ma portable battery to good use with this tablet.

One annoying thing about this tablet (or maybe windows8.1) is that when I press the power button to put it to sleep and then close the cover, either the keyboard hit the windows touch button below the main screen or the touch screen hit the windows key on the keyboard and that would wake the tablet and turn on the screen draining battery while not being used.

Same thing happen when I plug in my charger, it will be awaken and screen turned on.

So to sort of temporary solve this problem, I created hibernation shortcuts on taskbar, desktop, start menu, and start screen. So I just hibernate it whenever I don't use it. Lucky that it just takes about 10 to 12 seconds for this thing to wake from hibernation.

Hope there is some ways to disable the keyboard, touch start button, and charger from waking the tablet up when I press the power button.

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BTW, since Onda is mentioned here, I wanna let you guys know Onda have just released a 11 inch tablet with full HD screen, 2gb ram, 64gb storage, but have dual OS with both Windows 8.1 and Android4.4 installed and can be switched instantly.

It is getting a lot of praise in Hong Kong.

I am quite interested in this thing.
[Windows 8 General] EQLucky:
OMGitsShan, thank you so much for the review. I was thinking about buying this wonder, mainly because the keyboard and the case. With those pics, I almost have no doubts right now.

Just a silly question: You mentioned it comes with a 1-year subscription to Office365. What about OneDrive? Iw ould be great to have anything attached with that subscription.

Thanks again.
[Windows 8 General] Marrond:
Hey, I've got similar tablet (it's the same just named and sold by local firm in Poland - Kruger&Matz EDGE 1081 - with current currency exchange rate it's 214$ and that's already with taxes for WiFi only 32gb). I've got an issue - sometimes Windows button (touch sensor) bugs out and act as if it was pressed all the time and it doesn't respond at all, meaning pressing power/screen lock button leads to CTRL+ALT+DEL screen and Volume UP button launches up narrator. Problem appears randomly, though very often when tablet is docked into keyboard cover.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Oh btw, first thing I did was download 70+ Windows updates. Maybe a freak occurrance, but they took forever to discover and then wouldn't download (always stuck at 0%). One time they finally did, but on a reboot didn't seem to be applied + "TiWorker.exe" was taking massive CPU even after a reboot. Turns out the update database got corrupted somehow - fix: Control Panel -> Trouble Shooting -> Windows Update. Repairs the DB + reboot (may need to dl' the updates again to get them to stick).
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
[MENTION=6406539]Marrond[/MENTION], I think I've seen what you describe. For me it very occasionally goes a little nuts, eg. it registers presses all over the tablet when I press in a spot, and think I've seen it trigger the start button once. In my case it seems to be interference with other gadgets on my desk (I'm still setting it up, copying files etc). For one I have a Wacom tablet that probably radiates stuff as part of what it does. I noticed that if I moved the tablet elsewhere on my desk, it's all fine again. I'll keep an eye on it.

One thing, be careful updating the Intel HD graphics driver. I used their auto-driver update tool, found & installed an updated HD driver. Worked fine, except every time the screen went to sleep, it would then wake up all black. Backlight still on and tablet still running fine, but nothing on screen and no way to fix it except hard reboot! Thanks to [MENTION=4355669]OMGitsShan[/MENTION]'s link to the driver package I just put the old one back on and fine again. Google suggests it's a long-running problem with Intel drivers, but couldn't find the exact cause. Never seen this on my desktop (with HD4000).

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Apparently most Win 8 devices (even 'with Bing') have device encryption enabled by default (so if someone steals your tab they can't then pull the files off from another OS etc). But it doesn't seem activated on the W3. This might be the reason & workaround, scary though in case it bricks it.

If anyone is brave enough to try, please report.

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BTW [MENTION=6406539]Marrond[/MENTION], your tab might be a clone of the W3F (it's a cut-down version of the W3 with a slower Baytrail CPU).

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BTW if anyone needs a driver let me know (takes FOREVER to dl from China).
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
OK I took a gamble on enabling the security stuff in the BIOS, and sure enough it worked (note I didn't bother to create a password). You then have to create/sign into an online MS account (I did that inadvertently by trying to download a free app from the store). This changes your login into an online login. And seems to enable Device Encryption silently & also automatically uploads your encryption key to MS as a 'backup'. You can also make or print your own copy for safe keeping. I can now see Device Encryption is enabled (with option to disable) on the PC Info screen - but this is only shown on the Metro version, not the desktop one. But yeah, seems to have worked. You can then also choose to go back to a local login (Account Settings) if you don't want to be signed into MS permanently. You can also choose to use or disable OneDrive.

The touchscreen weirdness came back quite badly, fake touch events all over the place, but recalibration seems to have fixed it (Start Menu -> Search for 'Calibration'). That should fix the Start button too as that's likely just using the touch screen.

The USB3 Seagate HD also works if I plug a USB power monitor between it and the tab, so it does have enough juice to power it, but perhaps a firmware glitch makes it disconnect, maybe a short power drop that doesn't happen when the monitor is also plugged in. But it works fine with my powered usb3 hub. And all other USB devices I've tried so far work directly on the tab.
[Windows 8 General] OMGitsShan:
Thanks and you're welcome! I'm happy to see you got yours! We'll be able to bounce ideas and suggestions now and hopefully figure things out.

Thanks! I haven't experienced the problems you have but if I do i'll let you know. I actually heard about the Onda v116w a few days after I had ordered my W3, and initially I thought OMG I want that instead but looking at it now, I'm kind of glad I didn't go with it and here's why. Most people buying the 8 and 9 inch models of these Chinese tablets only want to use them to consume media. Yeah sure full Windows is a bonus of course. However with a 10 inch tablet not only is it as good for media consumption but you finally get a device that you can do work with. So in the case of the PiPO W3, the keyboard is a big draw and because PiPO include their own, it feels safer than picking some random magnetic keyboard or even using a bluetooth one. With the Onda being 11 inches - that would be a perfect companion for work (and great for media too!) however Onda have not released or even mentioned a keyboard case with the device. In my opinion, that was a huge loss to them. Without a keyboard option, the need for the tablet is limited. Also on an 11 inch screen - Onda could only offer a 1080p resolution?! What is this - 2011? Such a large screen deserves a high resolution to turn a great screen into a gorgeous one. I really don't understand Onda. Its like they never push hard enough. Every tablet of theirs always has some major limit. Previously they never offered HDMI out. So with such a low resolution for an 11 inch screen, the PPI (Pixels per inch) will be pretty low. Also they offer the same processor as the current crop of tablets. With a slightly bigger screen, it would be nice to put a more powerful CPU in to help games etc work better. So for me Onda always do something to screw up their upcoming tablets.

You're welcome! OneDrive is included with Office 365. You get 1TB of space online to store your documents. Your Microsoft ID would get you 15GB of OneDrive space outside of this Office 365 subscription however. Hope that answers your question.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Quick update on the external USB 3.0 HD issues we're both having. We're not alone, it's also happening on Surface.

As I wrote there, mine actually works unpowered on the (2.0) micro-USB port, so it's not a power issue. And my USB power monitor (that makes it work on the 3.0 port) drops the connection to 2.0, so that explains why that works too. So the issue is only with the true 3.0 connection. It seems very unlikely this is a hard drive firmware bug, as people are reporting the same thing with all kinds of HDs. So either the Intel USB 3.0 driver or some Windows USB 3.0 part (maybe from a bad update) must have a bug, or maybe it's a bug in Baytrail itself (but the driver could probably work around that). I've not been able to find any Intel USB 3.0 drivers for Baytrail (updated or otherwise), anyone?

Also [MENTION=4355669]OMGitsShan[/MENTION], when you had the HD problem did you already download all the Windows updates, or was it clean? I already got the updates so I don't know if it would work clean. I guess I could uninstall them all again, but if someone has a clean install to test...

BTW I hear you having to reinstall Windows, it sucks! My (power-user) desktop system takes WEEKS to rebuild from scratch - no exaggeration! Word of advice, set it all up, and then image the OS partition. I do these days because I'm never going back to a full rebuild (just catching up the few months between the last backup takes long enough :) ).

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[MENTION=4355669]OMGitsShan[/MENTION], check you System even log for "disk <x> has been surprise removed" messages. That's what I get when it briefly detects and then disconnects the drive when I plug it in (about 50% of the time, the rest it doesn't see it at all).

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I got my micro-> full SIM adapter, and tested the 3G stick at home. I'm near a mast so get a v. good signal - the stick gave me the same as I get on my iPhone 4s. Haven't tried in a weak signal area yet, but looks promising. There's no voice call facility in the supplied Mobile Partner software, but it seems to be able to send/receive texts (that probably explains the vibrate motor - which I don't mind firing on the Start button, but there's probably a tweak to turn it off).
[Windows 8 General] misbehave:
Which carrier sim card are you trying with?
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
3 (UK).
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
I also agree that the W3 is more of a work horse - if you're not planning to use the desktop much, it's probably overkill unless you want the faster CPU just because. But to me it's a poor man's Surface Pro (in a good way).

Gotta say I'm also really impressed with what MS has done with the mobile part of the OS. I run 8.1 on my desktop, but never use Metro at all. It's horrible to navigate with a mouse (or my Wacom graphics tablet, which doesn't react like the touchscreen even though that makes more sense). But it's great on this - I love IE in Metro mode, super slick, all the touch gestures in general finally make sense and are intuitive. I especially like swiping in from left to switch between desktop & metro screens, very slick.

And I'm very impressed with what they have achieved with the power usage. I'm a programmer and I know how much they would have had to gut the OS and rewrite massive parts of it, including the drivers, to get that to happen. It even seems to boot a little faster from cold than my (admittedly old) iPhone 4S. Sweet.

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Anybody know how we can replace the Pipo boot logo?

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... simple.
[Windows 8 General] yadzzze:
hi there!

I've received my pipo w3 tablet.

They forgot to put the AC charger inside the box.

So i have to charge it with micro usb port and my ipad charger (5v,2.5A)

After 8 hours. battery says 100% charged.

I ran some test. Battery last 3 hours.

I ran HWmonitor and it seems battery not fully charged.

there is a difference betwenn designed capacity battery (29250mWh) and full charge capacity battery (16268 mWh).

Full charge capacity battery don't go higher with more charging time.

Does my battery have a problem ?

If i charge via AC input with correct charger (Don't have it yet) will it fix the problem ?

Thx for helping me !
[Windows 8 General] SteveBaptista:
I need some help. I just received my tablet and applied all windows updates. I just noticed my tablet isn't reading my SD card (adata 64gig) not sure if it ever did or if the windows update killed it,

If I go to device manger I see a yellow ! on SD Storage Class controller , {This device Cannot Start (Code 10)} can someone point me on how to fix this. under android it sees the card fine.
[Windows 8 General] davebert0:
In Windows try uninstalling the device and have it reinstall. If that does not work try rolling back the driver.
[Windows 8 General] Calajian:
Pipo W3f Sleep/Power button

First of all sorry for my bad English.

Yesterday I've received my W3f, everything was fine, until today I noticed problem with sleep/power button, after one press the tablet was offering me shut down menu, and even if I swap it up, tablet turns off. That problem was in Android too. I've decided to plug in charger and wait (think that problem was low battery level).

Now (after kinda 4 hours of charging) the button not work at all. Not in windows nor in Android. If my tablet turns off I couldn't be able to turn it on.

What you think, is this a hardware issue or something wrong with bios?

Thanks in advance, and one more time sorry for my bad English.
[Windows 8 General] Linkito93:
It will be safe apply the free W10 update? I have the notification in my PiPo W3 and the uptdate is programmed July 29.
[Windows 8 General] Luckzzz:
3hrs of battery? You probably bought W3F !!!

W3 original has twice the capacity... 8000mAh.. not 4000mAh of W3F..
[Windows 8 General] Luckzzz:
you just had bad luck

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This seller has good reviews.. you just had bad luck .. sad..

95.7% positive reviews of 995 sells.. looks good..
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Just a quicky reply; wooh, finally got my replacement W3 after sending the previous back due to its strange keyboard and hardware issues with the bluetooth module.

(after waiting for a whole friggin month, 3 weeks where shipping and 1 was tax office trying to charge me, and then me forcing them to read/watch all email convos videos and images ive had/shared with banggood, after wich they accepted that i wasnt gonna pay tax twice, wooh!)

And on first glance, everything is perfect this time around

- Came with a seperatelly packaged keyboard that didnt have weird double keys, nor that ugly 'metal' windows 8 sticker, no leds either though but ill live with that.

- Bluetooth properly works out of the box

- Both camera's work out of the box

- Was already pre-configured to english

Fun fact, i have 2 pictures of the insides of the banggood warehouse now, they tested the cams and then forgot to remove the pics hehe.

Al in all, looks like this one is the proper 100% (or 99% if we do take the keyboard leds into account, but ill take that loss, just happy i finally got the replacement) so im pretty happy, will let it charge today, and play around some more tomorrow to really check every aspect, but things are looking great, so i guess this also means that BangGood has some pretty good support, even if it may take them a little while, they did replace my tablet (while they didnt recieve it yet) with one that they checked/tested before sending it my way, top job, gonna give them a nice review for that.

I was wondering that too, somebody will have to have the ball's too try, or we need to find some detailed info on that update, if it actually makes sure the current drivers are compatible with win10 and warns you otherwise, it may be safe to try.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Good things are working out [MENTION=1093776]suicidal.banana[/MENTION], and really good to hear that Bangood seem decent. I was starting to loose my faith in Chinese sellers, but if the W8 performance works out I might till grab one from them. Shame about the LEDs but as you said, probably not a disaster. Did you get a good PSU, no touchscreen going nuts when it's connected?

Can we see the factory pics? :).
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Heya,

The PSU is very similar to the one received in the past, but does in fact appear to be a different one (or at the very least, a better one)

For starters the EU extension bit doesn't wobble nearly as much, and (because of that) there's no scary sounds when plugging it in a power outlet with said extension either (unlike the previous one, which i ended up opening and bending the contacts of to stop said scary sounds) I however do still have tie-ripped the extension onto the PSU, because it would still stay stuck in the power outlet most of the time when i unplug it, but guess that's in part due to my power outlets (which i admit are quite firm in holding plugs, like a power outlet should)

Furthermore, the touchscreen seems to function fine when its charging, ive been dragging squares on the desktop in all kinds of sizes and positions for a good 15 minutes just to test this for you haha, and really, i couldn't spot any misinterpretation of my input.

About the pics from inside, they where from an office of some sorts, but ima decline you those, because i already deleted them, and if i wouldn't have removed them already i prolly still wouldnt share because there were people in both of the pictures, and im always quite anal about my own privacy, so then i wouldn't feel right sharing pics of some unknown Chinese guy from Banggood support. What matters though is how the place looked, and for as far as i could tell, it looked like any office over here in the west really, it was clean/white, the only cabinet i could see was closed off (and decent) and there was the usual suspended ceilings like most offices have, the guy was clean shaved too and not looking suppressed either (hehe) so i guess all in all Banggood does good business and takes care of their employees.

To top it all off, i even got dutch customs to accept that this was a replacement for a returned product, so i wasn't charged import tax for the replacement either :D

I will shop there again basically, even though the support process did take a while, by far the most time (like 70%) went into the shipping and me dealing with the tax/border/post office, so i don't really blame them for that, and they did in fact do a great job helping me resolve the hardware issue, at first by suggesting me taking it to a repair shop with them covering the costs, later by sending me a replacement before even receiving my return package, and now that i have it its quite obvious they did check everything before sending the replacement, like i requested, so im quite happy with them.

And for as far as i've been able to tell, they mostly have cheaper prices too (when compared to aliexpress and other more known chinese webshops)
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Cool. Yeah mine was totally unusable with the original charger, when you touched it would permanently fire tons of random touch events in a column above and below. I ended up replacing it with a generic PSU that almost completely fixed it - occasionally it still misfires, but only near the left edge.

It seems their touchscreen (or their PCB design) is/was sensitive to noisy PSUs.

That's fair.

Cool. My worry always was the expensive return shipping, and with an unscrupulous seller they could just pretend they never got it (after months of waiting and emails), or send something back not fixed, or in worse condition. So based on your experience Bangood sound very good, especially them sending out the replacement straight away.

Yeah with their vouchers they look pretty good. If this is representative of what they do, they deserve the business (and I feel happier ordering my W8, if I do :)).
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Been poking around a bit trough my W3, and yea, its perfect this time around, haven't found any issues at all, woo-hoo!

Also have been looking at the Win10 upgrade, apparently we're supposed to get Windows update "KB3035583", wich adds the register-for-upgrade logo/program too the taskbar, but sadly that update doesn't seem to show up for me :(

So now im wondering, [MENTION=2379396]Linkito93[/MENTION], what did you do to see the upgrade option? i'm kinda reluctant to just install all possible updates, because last time i did that it (on my now replaced W3) it cost like 20GB, so where possible id like to figure out what exact updates are needed to get the Win10 upgrade option, and skip all others. Any chance you could share what update's you've installed? (Metro interface -> PC settings -> Windows Update -> View your update history)
[Windows 8 General] Linkito93:
[MENTION=1093776]suicidal.banana[/MENTION] I really don't did nothing, you just need have the Windows Uptade activated. Anyway, you can get a free copy of W10 installing the Insider Preview (https://insider.windows.com/).
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
[MENTION=1093776]suicidal.banana[/MENTION], you may already have the update(s), but they activate at different times to roll it out in steps. Open Task Scheduler, find (from memory, may be slightly wrong) Windows -> Setup -> GWX<Something> and run the GWXtrig (or similar) task. That should put a white windows icon in the system tray, and you can reserve your official copy from there.
[Windows 8 General] misbehave:
I have been using my W3 for my job for the past 6 months now.

So far pretty happy with it but I do wish it could have done more things ,1) duel boot with Android, and 2) the windows touch key on the bottom of the key could be disabled.