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[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
I'm awaiting the upgrade, reserved it a few weeks back, anxiously checking my W3 every few minutes now, will report back here how that goes once it has finally started.

Edit: Tried to force the upgrade to start by doing this, after which windows update did mention windows 10, but so far (after installing updates and rebooting) it hasn't started installing Win10 just yet :(

Edit 2: Did the same command again (from the above link) but without clearing windows update downloads, and now its saying "Downloading Windows 10", reporting that its 2,210.1 MB

Edit 3: Download is taking ages, guess because 'the whole world' is downloading it, currently got 57% downloaded, seeing about 1% increase per 5 minutes

Edit 4: Finally finished downloading, now its "Preparing for installation"

Edit 5: Update failed! :crying:

Edit 6:

Yea, its not working, tried a few different suggested 'fixes' but no dice, Getting these error codes:

- 80070057

- 80240020

- 80246010

All seem to relate to issues with drivers and/or the downloaded copy of Win10 being corrupt. (and yea, did try the wuauclt and rundll32 commands a bunch of times, aswell as clearing out that windows update downloads directory, but neither fixed things, and its not re-downloading it either)

As a last resort, ima try downloading it manually from here, but im not getting my hopes up

Edit 7: The above tool is doing a new download (thankfully a bit faster) so i got a slight sliver of hope again :p choose to install it on the 'pc' i run the tool on (the W3) but they also offer making an installer from a USB stick, so if this fails i'll prolly try that too

Edit 8:

Succes! its running Win10 right now :D

Ok so for the ones among you that would like to go on this endavour:

- Dont even bother with the free upgrade tool that you could use to register your upgrade, that thing is really just a mess at the moment, "half the world" is getting corrupt install files from it

- Instead, use this tool and just choose to install it on the machine your running the tool on

- Give it a 45-60 minutes

- Profit!

On quick glance things seem to be functional, tho i haven't touched my camera's yet, and the led is still burning (as if the cam is on, some bug i got in 8.1 aswell the last few days of it)

My guess is that the driver package for 8.1 should work for 10 too (after all, the drivers are said to be interchangable) so ill try that and let you guys know
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
Which version did you choose. I am afraid activation with the Win 8.1 w/Bing prod.key will fail.
[Windows 8 General] Linkito93:
So [MENTION=1093776]suicidal.banana[/MENTION] the touchscreen is working? I think is the main problem. I would like to upgrade if everything its okay, and would know too if a clean install is possible (Since we need the drivers for W3 from PiPo).

Expecting too some increase of battery life/duration since W10 "has a better performance and less consumption" that W8.1 Bing.
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
You don't choose a version, it just detects Win8.1 w\Bing and gives you Win10 Home. If you want choice (other versions of Win10) you'll have to buy the upgrade

Touchscreen works, keyboard works, cameras appear to work and things like Bluetooth and rotation sensors work, and looking in device manager i see no issues (except that i do have a issue with one camera actually, but had that before the upgrade too so that's irrelevant to your question)

I went for a clean install, it did however do some preparation before shutting down Win8.1 (from which ive started the Win10 setup, they do offer you to create an installation usb stick btw, but i was just lazy) and that preparation may have been placing used drivers on some hidden partition to reintroduce them later, but honestly, i dont know, long story short, i started the install, choose clean install, it installed, and booted without issue, and all old Win8.1 accounts/settings/whatever/<anything i had on the c drive> was gone

Finally, you shouldn't have anything to worry about really, the Win8.1 drivers for the W3 are actually supported, Win10 didn't make any drastic changes to how drivers work, so 99% will be interchangeable, and prolly 100% of the Win8.x drivers.

Edit:

Oh, quick tip, if you do install it, expect things to be quite different, not in the least because it defaults to tablet mode and that's downright horrible, like you can open the start menu, but

cant

close it (unless you take a silly detour) everything always opens fullscreen, and more weird bs like that.

So if you've just installed it and are freaking out that it appears to be buggy, nope, thats a feature haha. Turn it off by going: Start menu (wooh! trololol) -> Settings -> System -> Tablet mode and turn it off, and if your as awestruck by its failure as me, set it to go to desktop when you sign in too :P
[Windows 8 General] SteveBaptista:
SD card drivers

Hello

I need some help I have the W3F, my SD card works fine under android, but under windows it used to work but now it wont bring up the drive. in computer management it show that "SD Storage Class Controller" has a yellow mark Devie stauts staes "this device cannot start (code 10)

can some one point me to the drivers i need or a solution ??

Also has anyone tried Win10 on the W3F and if so dose it break the dual boot ?
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Android and windows use different file systems, Android formatted it to a certain format, Windows doesnt understand that format.

Most likely the SD card is formatted as 'ext3', you could try install this in windows to get support for that filesystem, ive used it in Win7 with great success, never tried in Win8, and they dont mention Win10 yet (but with interchangable drivers and all, it should work)
[Windows 8 General] arnonram:
[MENTION=1093776]suicidal.banana[/MENTION], thanks for all the info. I'm in no rush to install so I'll wait till my turn comes up and hope the kinks were hammered out. Failing that I'll go your route :D
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Sure thing, my pleasure :)

(i actually pretty much bought the W3 thinking ahead)

[MENTION=6314138]_gl[/MENTION]: any chance you could give a quick rundown of opening the tablet? (thinking you where the one that shared internal pics, if you where not, my mistake) because im not losing this thing again for weeks to have it replaced, and i just wanna double check if its a connection in the tablet thats gone bust
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Yep it was me, are you sure you wanna open it? I cracked the digitizer on mine as the clips are really tight, and the case is weak near the internal 3G Ultrastick port. Also if you're getting it replaced, what about voiding the warranty?
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Yea im aware of that, did you ever managed to get a new digitizer actually? And i prolly wont try for at least a few more weeks for exactly that reason ('afraid' ill break it) but it just annoys me that the camera led is always burning a pixel in my eyeball :P (especially very noticeable in the evenings)

And i wont go trough warranty again, because it just takes to long (and the camera is alot less important to me then bluetooth was, so i may not even try fix it for way longer then the few weeks mentioned above) so the fact that opening it will void my warranty doesn't really bother me :)
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
No, but this is the model in mine: 101170-01A-1-V1. Some sellers have it but it's expensive at the mo, around $60US is the best I've seen. It seems to also be called: CTP101170-01 (not confirmed but controller looks the same and some sellers are listing it for the Pipo W3). There's also another part that some are listing for the W3, but its controller looks different.

I haven't followed the thread much lately, wasn't this a driver problem? Did you try to install the original Pipo image (I think someone posted it)? Worst-case you can always put some black electrical tape over the LED or cam :).
[Windows 8 General] SteveBaptista:
Sd Card issue

The SD card works fine in other windows devices so it's not a format issue, I believe it's a driver or windows update issue. any other ideas?
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Ah, thanks for the info, and it was a driver problem for the other guy that had a similar issue in this thread, but im afraid it isnt for me, its giving the exact same error as the bluetooth did on my last W3 (STATUS_DEVICE_POWER_FAILURE)

Could it perhaps be that windows somehow doesn't see the SD slot? do you maybe have another SD card at hand you could use to test if the SD slot actually works in windows? just a wild guess really.
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
I have tried the tool to upgrade my WIMBoot Win8.1 w/Bing but it always fails with error 0x80070002 - 0x20009 "the installation failed in the safe_os phase with an error during prepare_rollback operation". Tried both options offered by the tool: upgrade this PC and download of iso to usb pen drive.

Perhaps my free diskspace (~12GB) is not big enough to prepare rollback.

How much free diskspace did you have? Was your Win 8.1 also of type WIMBoot? Did your Win 10 activate with the Win 8.1 productkey that you already had?
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
I had like 35-40gb of free space, but it only a 2,2gb download or something. currentlly i have 33.9gb left.

Dont know if i had/have WIMBoot, if its there on default i do/did, if not (and i think its not?) then i dont.

I didnt write down my Win8.1 key anywhere, so i cant compare, but the Win10 install thats there now does have a product key, and is activated. (key has a lot of 0's btw, so im guessing its a new Win10 key)
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
I restored my standard Win8.1 w/Bing partition (not WIMBoot) and could install Win10 w/o problems, even though free space was less than 11GB. I installed it using a USB pen drive with Win10 Home that was created with the MediaCreationTool and running setup.exe from Win8.1. All drivers are up and running, no errors, everything fine. Windows is activated, but interestingly the productkey has changed to a generic key as listed here. I do want to find out if a WIMBoot type Win8.1 can be updated, so after backing up the Win10 partitions I will try that again :)
[Windows 8 General] Marvido:
I installed windows 10, one thing that does not seem to work on mine is the auto rotate function. And i cant seem to find if anywhere ?

Also the screen keeps being black after being idle..
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Get yourself (if you dont have it already) the W3 driver package thats out there for WIn8.1, in there is a driver for the G-Sensor, install that into Win10, reboot.

Screen going black after idle is a issue with recent Intel Graphics drivers not playing nicely with the CPU/GPU in our W3's, you can also resolve that by installing the official graphics driver from the W3 driver package.

Edit: this is the W3 driver package (yep, sadly with Chinese readme's and whatnot, but thank god most installers are English)
[Windows 8 General] Viper888899:
Hi,

Ran into the exact same issue after upgrade to Win10, no auto rotation and screen won't come back on after sleep. I downloaded the driver package, ran the G-Sensor, rebooted made no difference. I can't find the Graphics driver folder inside the W3 driver folder? Currently using Intel HD Grapics v 10.18.10.4252.

Any advise?

Thanks
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
About rotation, maybe try run the kxsensors-win8-x86-dbg-20140204-1 thing as administrator? did it pop up with the driver installation window after extracting?

If it did pop up with that window, look at your device manager (quickest route; rightclick start menu icon, click device manager) does it mention two items in the 'Sensors' category? (note that 'Sensor I/O devices' is something else)

About the graphics drivers, they are part of the default package for the cpu, wich is (in the W3 drivers download) located in "intel_W3/Installer/PlatformInstaller/" and then just run the Setup you find there.
[Windows 8 General] micouu:
I have the same problem after upgrading to Windows10

The screen remains black after waking up .

I tried an older driver but it does not resolve the problem ( 10.18.10.3910 )

Which driver will work?
[Windows 8 General] Marvido:
Thanks, will see if i can get it, is there not a way without registering with phone number ???
[Windows 8 General] Viper888899:
Hi, thanks for the advise, everything is working now, screen rotate and screen turning back on after sleep.
[Windows 8 General] micouu:
which driver he used to run screen after waking up ?

Thank you
[Windows 8 General] Linkito93:
[MENTION=1093776]suicidal.banana[/MENTION] Another question about I'm thinking, the version of W10 you installed is x86 or x64? Since PiPo W3 has an x64 processor but W8.1 was x86
[Windows 8 General] Marvido:
I have some fun issues after installing the drivers, screen rotates either opposite or mirrored. Tried downgrading and upgrading with the issues swithcing back and forth, so not sure what to do about it at the moment. And the black screen issue still remains, i will try and mess around with it later today.
[Windows 8 General] Viper888899:
driver date 30/12/2013 / Version 10.18.10.3383
[Windows 8 General] micouu:
[MENTION=1932891]Viper888899[/MENTION] I could ask where download link?

Thank you
[Windows 8 General] Viper888899:
http://chinagadgetsreviews.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/download-windows-81-drivers-for-pipo-w1.html

click on the first "here" link.
[Windows 8 General] Marvido:
Can the issues with drivers be due to using 32 bit and not 64 bit ?? i installed 32 bit, wondering if that was a mistake ?
[Windows 8 General] Marvido:
I found another 32 bit driver from a russian forum today, looks like it solved my black screen issue. So hope it helps those that had the same problem as i did, only thing now is to find a sensor driver that doesnt reverse...

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24226/Intel-HD-Graphics-driver-for-Windows-8-8-1-32-bit-
[Windows 8 General] micouu:
[MENTION=5942828]Marvido[/MENTION] super :good:

wake up the screen finally it works as it should :)
[Windows 8 General] gingerprince:
Driver download

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[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
The one in the PIPO W3 (or W3F depending on what you have) driver package. (note that for best result you should remove any drivers windows already downloaded for it)

Get them here: W3 driver package, W3F driver package

I installed the 32bit version since that was just the safest route (like you said, Win8.1 was 32bit too) but i have a vacation comming up, and then (when i have time and a clear head) i will try the 64bit version (and maybe dualboot with some unix os) and report back in this thread.

Same advice for you, get the graphics driver from the proper driver package and install that, links a little higher in this reply. (again, note that you should also remove the one you have now, else it may just default to the one you have now, since thats a newer driver)

You linking him to the W1 driver package, im 99% sure thats not what he needs. (again, get the proper W3 or W3F package from top of this post)

The drivers come from PIPO, and PIPO released the W3 and W3F with 32bit Win8.1, so no, shouldnt be an issue. (but may be for 64bit)

Nice find, though please be wary of any graphics driver not provided by PIPO.

About the sensors, did you try running the kxsensors-win8-x86-dbg-20140204-1 executable from the driver package as administrator? (again, find it at the top of this post) after running the executable it should pop up with a window for installing drivers, after you complete that and reboot, the sensors should work.
[Windows 8 General] Marvido:
Yep, done all the steps you mentioned not as admin tho, i think. Ill give it a go as admin, cant remember if i tried that one.

Ok done that now, with something different now....vertical it flips correctly, but when held horizontal it is mirrored flipped.
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Very strange, can you perhaps shoot a short video of it?

Oh and maybe check if theres no weird thing going on with video drivers, simple way to check, rightclick your desktop, you should see only one set of intel graphics options and things, if you see two, your running two intel drivers at the same time (which may, somehow, cause the mirroring)

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Been chatting with Microsoft about replacing the 32bit Win10 install with a 64bit Win10 install, and apparently thats not a easy fix, what will need to be done is first do a clean 64bit install of Win8.1, then upgrade to 64bit Win10.

The problem is, to do a clean 64bit install of Win8.1, we need the key from the 32bit Win8.1, wich i sadly didnt write down (since i figured Win10 would just re-use it)

So what im wondering, theres a few people here that did the whole firmware reinstall trick ( [MENTION=6314138]_gl[/MENTION] for one) did that get you guys/gals an activated Win8.1 with a serial? because if it did, i may just go trough those steps just to get a Win8.1 serial which i can then use for a clean 64bit install, and then upgrade that 8.1 install to 64bit Win10. :fingers-crossed:
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
The BIOS apparently holds the key permanently. I didn't reflash mine but just tricked it into loading the default settings, so I don't know what happens if you flash it. Hopefully it leaves the key alone? There should be a utility that can read the BIOS key, try a Google. If it's still in there you're golden.

BTW I just decided to upgrade to a used Surface Pro 2. Loving it, will write a comparison if I get time.
[Windows 8 General] rndm:
Any chance you have an english link for those drivers. just installed windows 10 and my pipo w3 doesnt wake up
[Windows 8 General] TheMoops:
Can someone post the contents of their touchsetting.gt file? It's in Windows/inf. It's just a little ridiculous that pipo doesn't provide touchscreen drivers, especially when you need to manually configure the damn thing.
[Windows 8 General] Marvido:
I have reinstalled win 10, and no matter what graphic driver i use, i still have reversed rotations. So i think thats it for now, i really got tired of messing around and trying various settings and stuff without result. I really dont get why this persists, after following what you guys have done step by step precicely.
[Windows 8 General] arnonram:
Got my Windows 10 upgrade notification yesterday and went ahead with it.

Went rather smoothly, everything working except for the screen not turning back on after. Now, i already had this once and when i first got my Pipo W3; to fix it last time i did a complete Windows 8.1 re-installation, then i backed up all the special Pipo drivers (ie non-system drivers) with Double Driver. So all i had to do was remove the upgraded Intel HD graphic driver, then install the driver from the backup. Fixed :)

So my Pipo W3 is running Windows 10 and so far looks good. Only thing i'm not happy with is that in desktop mode it seems to be a bit lagging in response (start menu, opening windows, etc..)., but tablet mode works just fine. I haven't played around with it yet, but i'm sure that there is a place where you can lower the transition effects, or something and it'll work smoother.

Cheers,

-arnon
[Windows 8 General] pystolero:
Where did you buy your W3?

I'm looking for, and I don't find easily a reseller with it in stock...
[Windows 8 General] arnonram:
I bought it from geekbuying, but i see they no longer have it in stock
[Windows 8 General] peroxidex:
I should have just left this darn tablet alone!

I was trying to reinstall the Android part of it, I went to flash the dual boot BIOS, but noticed a link in the comments section that claimed to be a newer version. After flashing this "newer version", I have a black screen on boot, no sounds, no nothing, just the red light at the top!

Is she bricked now or is there someway to flash the BIOS again?
[Windows 8 General] arnonram:
So I came back from work today and the screen is (again) not coming on. Apparently there was Windows update which overrode the Intel Graphics drivers to the new one. A simple roll-back and restart was all I needed. Then I went to goggle and asked it how to hide driver updates from Windows 10 and this is the answer I got: How to temporarily prevent a Windows or driver update from reinstalling in Windows 10

Don't know if it really works yet, but I certainly hope it does. Hope it helps others as well...

cheers,

-arnon
[Windows 8 General] OMGitsShan:
1. Is anyone else having issues when it goes to sleep of not being able to get the screen on again? After updating to Windows 10 everything is fine, but once the screen goes blank after a certain time, the only way to get back into the system is a force restart.

There are instructions on how to fully remove the single original language and convert it to your own language of choice PROPERLY. Follow the instructions which I've added into the original post.
[Windows 8 General] arnonram:
[MENTION=4355669]OMGitsShan[/MENTION], you can read up several posts where this exact issue is discussed. Basically, Windows 10 (8.1 did it as well) updated the Intel (HD) Graphics driver for you. You just need to roll-back to the previously supported Intel Graphics driver, the one that came originally with the tablet. So go to Device Manager -> Display -> driver properties -> roll-back.

Also, see my post previous to yours for instructions on how to disable update for a particular driver.

Cheers,

-arnon
[Windows 8 General] misbehave:
Does anyone know if our W3 works with N-trig or Wacom pen input?
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
It does not, things need a special touchscreen to support those, and the W3 (nor W3F) dont have it.

In a perfect world, you might be able to find a replacement digitizer that fits and does support pen input, but that would likely just be a fruitless endeavor, breaking your tablet beyond repair if you even manage to find something.

Oh! clever stuff, thanks! managed to pull it out using RWEverything

Oh and i would love to read that comparison :) (starting to get this 'itch' to just go buy a surface tab too, since i'd assume that wouldn't have any of the many issues we see with our W3's)
[Windows 8 General] Fredy Oliva:
it isn't switching on. It's stoppes in initial screen. The first black screen. either the PIPO logo doesn´t appers.
[Windows 8 General] Fredy Oliva:
I was travell by 10 days, when I back I tried use the PIPO it didn´t switch on. nobody were home to use the PIPO while I was out. I tried to charge the battery many hours and many times, but it stoppes in first black screen. either the PIPO logo didn´t appers. I thinking the bios was corrupted. I need the bios file to restore. Could you share the bios file with me please?
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Nice, thank you for that comparison, some informative stuff right there.

I would start by reading this post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=59493211&postcount=52
[Windows 8 General] Fredy Oliva:
Dear Friend,

I had read this post, but you think the only way is oppening the PIPO and trying to reset the BIOS?
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
It depends what the problem is. Any idea what might have happened? Is the USB port still doing something? If you plug something in with an LED (keyboard, flash key etc) is there any activity? From the video it looks like it could be a hardware fault too, hard to know. Also have you tried booting with the charger connected?
[Windows 8 General] Fredy Oliva:
I tried with 1Gb USB drive. I formated him only with FAT system. Copy both BIOS (AMIBOOT.ROM and SUPER.ROM), inserted into the table with OTG, turn on a usb keybord, i tried without and with pressing ctrl+home. In all the cases the USB led flash, but nothing appers on-screen. Do you think is there anything else to try? I´m trying all the procedures with charger connect. I tried this link bellow too (https://techjourney.net/recover-or-undo-corrupt-ami-bios-flash-update/).