yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[L Speed] DB126:
Initial (very early) readout on updated govonor tuner w/interactive govonor:

- balanced profile is much more aggressive; switched to battery profile

- frequency utilization is better but still favors higher values

- excellent responsiveness on battery profile (see above)

- with limited data (just a few hours) average hourly battery consumption on battery profile mirrors that of the balanced profile in L Speed 4.11

- improved responsiveness with the same power consumption - I'll take it!

- frequency mapping is imprecise but not a big deal as most/all devices will use the closest available frequency

- hispeed_freq not set to more rational values (yea!)

More testing is needed to confirm early observations. Stay tuned ... (bad pun)
[L Speed] martyfender:
I have been using SuperSU for about a year and a half and have had no problems with root on an Intel x86 android 5.0 and 5.1.1 tablet, as well as a newer Intel x86 anrdroid 6.0.1 tablet. A few weeks ago I tried Magisk on my newer Nextbook Ares 8A 6.0.1 and after about a day I lost root at least twice over a few days. So I reverted to SuperSU and have had no problems since. Others I have read about have had similar problems with Magisk.

One user on my Nextbook ares 8A 6.0.1 root thread stated that he had no problems with Magisk. So maybe it is the combination of apps and my particular setup, but I thought I would put this up here. I feel that Magisk has bugs on particular devices and setups. Maybe it will be improved in future versions, though.
[L Speed] ash001:
Why is doze made foreground???
[L Speed] D1stRU3T0R:
[MENTION=5514152]Paget96[/MENTION] it was there for some mins... Maybe emui (Huawei's own android, like miui) is blocking it after some mins? I never saw that notification again :/ (i don't even want to appear it anyways, just to work). Logcat or gtfo xd?
[L Speed] Rjhncrz:
Is there anything i need to delete here? As it is mention on the instruction of the OP, to delete any tweaks on the init.d
[L Speed] cristixperia:
Govtuner is still bad on latest version.:(

I installed v1.4.13 alpha 20170504, with this version everything is fine (battery govtuner is lil bit laggy but balanced govtuner is very good ;)) [MENTION=5514152]Paget96[/MENTION]

My advice is to revert on old govtuner parameters (seems to be better than the new one):)
[L Speed] PrinceLys:
for problems like lost root...

Just check in the magisk manager superuser tab.. turn off and grant superuser again, thats what I usually do for any apps that lost its root.
[L Speed] DB126:
Disagree and have posted preliminary analysis which appears to be holding through several more hours of use. Still testing though ...

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Shouldn't have to do this on any type of regular basis.
[L Speed] :
You probably lost the point of battery profile.

The earlier parameters didn't do ANYTHING to save battery. It wasn't lagging because the CPU spend most of the time on higher clock speeds which shouldn't happen on a battery profile.

In a nutshell, battery profile should be a bit laggy, which it is, so that's fine.

Balanced profile should not lag too much and should provide a reasonable performance, which it did, as you said. So that's fine too.

In fact this is the best Govtuner update ever. (Congrats and Thank you [MENTION=6773050]Senthil360[/MENTION] )

Let me put it in a simpler way,

Old Govtuner profiles did this;

Battery profile: Performance.

Balanced profile: Performance.

Performance profile: More Performance?

The new update does it like this;

Battery Profile: Battery life. (That's why it lags a little)

Balanced profile: Balanced between battery and performance.

Performance profile: Favours Performance more* than battery life.

When doing CPU intensive tasks, performance profile, in theory, can actually save battery because it's a race to idle situation.

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Wow magisk is annoying.
[L Speed] cristixperia:
It's exactly opposite :laugh:
[L Speed] :
Can you please tell me why?

In my case at least, the battery profile set the sampling_rate to 73000 (so the cpu stats are polled less often and there are no unnecessary ramping up frequencies)

and up_threshold to 98 (means the frequency is only increased when the current frequency is having a load more than 98%).

All are settings which provide better battery life.

Coming to the performance profile, sampling rate is set at 53000 (cpu polls more often, so more responsive) and the up_threshold is set at 68 (the frequency jumps when the current load goes over 68% which will give more smoothness at the cost of battery life).

This is how a performance profile should look.

All in all, Govtuner profiles makes a lot of sense now. I didn't checked the balanced profile yet.
[L Speed] cristixperia:
With new govtuner parameters even on battery profile Cpu is stuck too much on higher frequencies, I didn't see lag (like in old govtuner) but neither an improvement on battery life.

Old govtuner parameters is more better for me.

So with new govtuner :

Battery = performance

Balanced = performance

Performance = performance.:eek:
[L Speed] cristixperia:
First 2 screenshots with latest version (1.4.17 beta 2) on battery govtuner.

The last 2 screenshots with 1.4.13 alpha 20170405 on balanced govtuner.
[L Speed] D1stRU3T0R:
Kernel 3.4 and 2.2 ghz? Sorry for off topic, but what phone?
[L Speed] cristixperia:
Xperia Z2 with stock kernel, android 6.0.1
[L Speed] warface9991:
Are there any chance you could make speaker's volume louder with l'speed?
[L Speed] Kzyw:
[MENTION=754512]page[/MENTION]t ... Hello, 2 queries

I wear the superman MM rom in its latest version on my S7 Edge

Without L speed 8 hours of screen 100% to 0%,

With L speed 6.30 hours of screen 100% to 0%

I have activated within the setting of the CPU "balanced"... nothing more!

Is it normal to lose so much battery by this unique adjustment?

The mobile works better and faster but the battery consumption is great.

Any suggestions or is normal that greater consumption?

2... The flag tuner setting ... On or off?

What is better?

Regards
[L Speed] DB126:
Too fussed over frequency distribution. Responsiveness and battery endurance are the telling metrics. Former is clearly subjective without a highly structured test environment. The latter is a bit easier to measure/quantify using standard tools assuming reasonably consistent workloads and device settings. I only consider frequency spreads when one of the former is not performing as expected.

Reminds me of the overblown fuss over evil alarms and wakelocks (cough). Transparency is not always beneficial unless properly interpreted.
[L Speed] Senthil360:
Thanks for the early review guys, ur review reflects exactly on the results that I wanted to achieve with the latest update and I still got some more to add which will definitely be another step or two in the right direction.

In all honesty, your cpu frequency distribution looks fine to me. Maybe you need to look at some of your other settings.
[L Speed] :
Frequency spreads are not a thing to be bothered about mate. :)

Let's say you have a cpu intensive task which a lower frequency will need almost 3x the time a higher frequency will take to do.

So here if it stayed in the lower frequency it will use less power but because it has to stay there for longer the low powers will add up to a huge number and will have a substantial effect on battery life.

Lower frequencies doesn't mean better battery life.

If it went up to the higher frequencies, the cpu will use a bit more power but it only has to use that for a short while because the tasks finishes faster and can go back to idle very quickly. This is called race to idle and is very useful to save battery.

The concept behind govtuner is not to restrict the cpu to lower frequencies but to prevent the unnecessary boost in frequencies for loads which does not need them and provide higher frequencies for tasks with heavy loads so that they can finish quickly so they won't put a hole through your battery life.

What the Govtuner team is trying to achieve with each update is to get that balance between low frequencies and high cpu times. And the new update is in the right direction.
[L Speed] :
Edit: Added formatting.

Edit: OOPS, wrong box. Sorry about that mods. :(
[L Speed] cristixperia:
Ok, I will try latest version for few days.:)
[L Speed] nick0s23:
By mistake I got to use both aggressive doze feature of L Speed and Forcedoze app but I see that in general the phone is idling very well. Is it possible that these two are cooperating well and they don't interfere as it could happen with other apps or with some mods also?

I am using the latest beta of L Speed from XDA labs.
[L Speed] DB126:
Cooperate is probably not the best descriptor; I'd go with "tolerate". Really shouldn't intermix. Accomplishes nothing while increasing odds of a non-beneficial interaction.

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Quick update: above observations continue to hold on two Qualcomm devices after 8+ hrs of combined use. So far no significant downsides. I do have a few caveats to share but want to verify before posting. Unqualified crap continue to stink long after being retracted if wrong; best not to say it unless confidence is high. :)

Interactive governor only; YMMV with others.
[L Speed] cristixperia:
You see an improvement on battery life?

I use latest version with battery govtuner, performance is great, very smooth but battery life is seriously decreased.:(
[L Speed] Paget96:
#android #LSpeed

New beta version!!!

v1.4.17-beta3

Changelog:

- Fixed problems with sensors on doze

- Fixed NPE

- Improved code of doze service

Play Store link:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paget96.lspeed&hl=en

Join beta channel on Play Store:

https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.paget96.lspeed

Follow L Speed on Google+:

https://plus.google.com/communities/114615858954464149084

Follow L Speed on Facebook:

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Follow L Speed on xda-developers:

https://xdaforums.com/apps/l-speed

Join L Speed discussion on Telegram:

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If you want, you can also donate me using this link:

http://paypal.me/Paget96

or simply disable adblocker and support me with ads inside the app :D

Thanks for the support :D
[L Speed] looney_tkp™:
those with XDA labs installed, I've started uploading to their servers so check there for updates when Paget updates

:)
[L Speed] Kzyw:
The flag tuner setting ... On or off?

What is better?

Regards
[L Speed] A-Moustafa:
[MENTION=5514152]Paget96[/MENTION]

Can you add control over colors such as light white color
[L Speed] lucianogpiu:
I have a question. its better turn on, the flag tuner on a low ram phone?
[L Speed] DB126:
As noted in my initial 1.4.17-beta2 post the "balanced" profile appears to be more aggresive than legacy builds (pre 1.4.12) prompting a switch to the "battery" profile. Average hourly drain rates on v17-beta2 "battery" are roughly equivalent to v11-stable "balanced" with better response time and lower varability across different work loads. More on that in a future post.

If you were a fan of the legacy "battery" profiles (which were laggy on my test devices) then v17-beta2 will likely be a set back from a pure power saving perspective. Perhaps a 'super-sipper' profile can be added to future builds for those willing to trade responsiveness for battery savings.

During the brief period I ran with a v17-beta2 "balanced" profile observed drain rates were ~15% higher vs. legacy build "battery" profiles. Keep in mind the brevity of that test; I could very well be blowing smoke after a more detailed evaluation (which I don't plan to do as the battery profile meets my needs).

Hope this helps. :)
[L Speed] looney_tkp™:
most users here have devices with 1gb+ RAM, I'm not sure you'd be answered. best solution here is to test and feed us back so we know what to tell the next user who asks the same or a similar question

best regards :)
[L Speed] lucianogpiu:
Thanks, bro
[L Speed] :
So I tried an older build of L Speed (1.4.10 from March if you are interested) with the 4.0.2 Govtuner parameters.

I found that it is even more aggressive, in fact very aggressive than the latest beta in using lower frequencies. So that might be the reason why the new one shows a slightly less battery but more responsiveness.

Still the current beta is more battery oriented than the previous stable version and that's why I've said before it's a good update. It's not as aggressive as the older builds but better than the current ones.
[L Speed] Ufeldraku:
Uhm, could you add an "apply all tweaks" button? For some reason, on my phone, rooted apps don't autostart, thus, L Speed doesn't get to show the notification and doesnt' apply the tweaks.

The phone is a ZTE Blade L3 Lite.
[L Speed] looney_tkp™:
Check this out
[L Speed] looney_tkp™:
[MENTION=5514152]Paget96[/MENTION]

Is veez1's Art optimization the same as the Runtime Optimization in L Speed ?
[L Speed] Paget96:
I'm currently busy, working today. I'll reply to your posts tomorrow :)

Also expect one more beta, i have to see are there bugs or anything to improve.

Thanks for support, see ya tomorrow :)
[L Speed] God Terrible:
You just need disable gov tuner

... now dont work... me too:confused:
[L Speed] :
Hello,

I flashed Android O Yesterday but since I don't see the lspeed notification saying "applying configuration" instead Android O is showing me that lspeed is in backround.

So what I need to do.

Thanks in advance for help ?
[L Speed] zputnyq:
Sorry, my mistake.

I forgot since those two contain "flag", flag tuner & low ram flag.

You can try it, if you wanna improve your battery.

If it cause instability on your device, just disable it then report it :)
[L Speed] Harishwarrior:
The frequency in the target load does not matches my CPU frequency.

I am using battery profile.

Please help me, paget

Device : Micromax Canvas 5 E481

ROM : Resurrection Remix 5.8.3 Android 7.1.2

Kernel : Stock (3.10.65)
[L Speed] DB126:
Doesn't need to; kernel will use nearest frequency.
[L Speed] Harishwarrior:
Thank you bro:good::D
[L Speed] Paget96:
I'll check but kernel module should be needed, will check it.

Well you can enable it, keep in mind that it can cause OOM sometimes.

Remove root booster if it's installed. It kills LS service on every boot if it starts before it. Also check auto start permission.

Similar, his edits build.prop and have some extra lines.
[L Speed] ytgbg:
[MENTION=5514152]Paget96[/MENTION]

Hi mate,

My device is Huawei P10 Plus, I am rooted with Magisk on Custom Stock 7.0 EMUI 5.1.

L-Speed doesn't start at boot when the kernel is in Permissive Mode, as soon I switch to Enforcing L-Speed runs at boot.

I must run Permissive kernel to get Viper, Titanium Backup and Dolby Atmos to function.

I guess it is something weird with EMUI going on and Permissive Kernel together as there are users reporting running Permissive Kernel with L-Speed without any issue on other devices...

By the way autostarts are allowed for L-Speed, I removed battery optimisations for it. Also it is excluded from lock-screen clean up. Root rights are given. All permissions are allowed.

I am not using any other similar apps to L-Speed.

It is not my first time and first device that I use L-Speed.
[L Speed] Tech0308:
Lspeed on XDA portal ,yay:)
[L Speed] moroo:
Paget96 I'll check but kernel module should be needed, will check it.

Thank you very match i wait that :good:

Yes my kernel supports that when use kernel editor but i want use Lspeed only
[L Speed] PedroCaseiro:
L Speed ****ed up my phone. I followed everything on the instructions, made sure everything was ready. Installed, applied balanced profile and the phone was slow as a snail... Applied Performance profile and it was equally slow.

I resetted the settings to default and uninstalled the app... Phone is still running slow.

Not a good experience for me with this app. It might not only be the app who made the phone like this but oh well

I made a hard reset on the phone and now battery is draining like crazy.

I hope you guys have better luck with this app.

Congrats to the dev btw, Most of the people seem to enjoy it. I guess it's not for my phone

I'm with a Zenfone 2 ZE551ML on CM13
[L Speed] mzj4213:
I'm on Zenfone 6 and it runs well for me… As for after the hard reset, it's not LSpeed app's problem, IMO
[L Speed] DB126:
Did you reboot after uninstalling L Speed? That step is required to restore your phones previous configuration. L Speed makes no permanent changes; all tweaks only last until the device is restarted. A hard reset was unnecessary if only trying to restore to a pre-L Speed state.
[L Speed] PrinceLys:
your pointing your hands at the wrong way.

Nothing to blame?... you're the one responsible for your phone...

Btw, im using "all battery profile + a little tweak" battery is better than before with less impact on performance.

using my Zenfone 2 ZE551ML stock fw v352
[L Speed] D1stRU3T0R:
He isn't pointing nor saying that lspeed ruined his phone. He said that he doesn't had luck with this app, and even wished good luck for others/dev. He didn't blamed, so don't blame him, ge shown his opinion in the most respectful way (even if he isn't right somehow) and than you are "attacking" him. Only he knows what he did, he just shared his opinion, even if it's not true.
[L Speed] gh0stzk:
In the first 5 words of his stupid post, he said " lspeed ****ed up my phone"
[L Speed] peterlee928:
fellas, fellas... is this really necessary? we can leave the back and forth for those silly "status of xposed?" threads. no need for fighting at the adults table, yes? ?
[L Speed] Paget96:
I need one Android O user to test notifications, after that we can have next beta version.
[L Speed] :
What can I do exactly?

I Want to help ?
[L Speed] Paget96:
Check this out.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=73608421&postcount=33
[L Speed] bYOndo:
Hello,

I have a ZTE Axon 7 with Lineage OS 14.1 latest build, I installed Lspeed, everything went fine ( I think...) except Waze! I use Waze daily and after Lspeed configured with "battery save" profile, It behaves crazy; it seems that it loses GPS position every 5 seconds more or less and then reconnects. Tried Google Maps too and no problem with it. I tried every GPS mode (gps+wifi+bt,wifi+bt, only gps), nothing changed, I tried uninstall/reinstall both Waze and Lspeed with reboot, nothing changed. I don't know what to do, maybe I did something wrong or forgot something important.

Any comment appreciated, thanks.

Massimo
[L Speed] grifforama:
Hi, can I ask ?

I'm using EX Kernel on Oreo Pixel XL. Also using the EX Kernel app.

Will that app and LSpeed conflict ? Should I leave LSpeed to change Kernel settings, not EX Kernel app ?
[L Speed] sol212307:
nope. i use both without any issue
[L Speed] :
Yes but don't apply two different settings for the same thing

For example don't set the governor to performance in lspeed and to powersave in exkernel mgr.
[L Speed] sol212307:
...???actually changing the governor doesnt affect anything. using performance on l speed can also use powersave gov in exkm app although it wont give performance gud enuff for heavy usage. it doesnt matter what governor u use in the kernel app as long as the kernel app doesnt do the same thing l speed does.
[L Speed] :
Thanks for correcting my example.
[L Speed] grifforama:
Thanks. One more question. This morning when my phone connected to wifi, it started downloading all my offline music in Spotify again. There's no way L speed would have wiped my data?
[L Speed] zputnyq:
Afaik, It won't wipe your data.
[L Speed] grifforama:
yeah, i didn;t think so. Spotify being squiffy
[L Speed] Paget96:
Update delayed for tomorrow night.

We have working notifications on Android O ;)

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=73637861

Thanks for support :D
[L Speed] Paget96:
#android #LSpeed

New beta version!!!

v1.4.17-beta4

Changelog:

- Updated design

- Updated about section

- Turkish translation updated

- Prevent some NPEs

- Removed live logcat reading

- Updated snackbar text for allow higher youtube resolution

- Added function to open battery section on pressing doze notification

- Added notification channels and updated notifications priority

- Added monochrome mode

- Code cleanup

Play Store link:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paget96.lspeed&hl=en

Join beta channel on Play Store:

https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.paget96.lspeed

Follow L Speed on Google+:

https://plus.google.com/communities/114615858954464149084

Follow L Speed on Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/LSpeedAndroidOptimizer

Follow L Speed on xda-developers:

https://xdaforums.com/apps/l-speed

Join L Speed discussion on Telegram:

https://t.me/LSpeed

If you want, you can also donate me using this link:

http://paypal.me/Paget96

or simply disable adblocker and support me with ads inside the app :D

Thanks for the support :D
[L Speed] :
Don't solve the sound of the notification on Android O...

But does monochrome color is saving cpu or any battery?
[L Speed] mimo.aridi:
It saves battery.
[L Speed] Paget96:
Does it make a sound when enabling Doze???

Well in theory it can improve battery life, but according on how AMOLED works it's not so true. Try and see.
[L Speed] zputnyq:
[MENTION=5514152]Paget96[/MENTION] monochrome doesn't work on my 4.4.2 device.

Isn't it only for lollipop and up probably?

Based on this web lollipop has already had option for it on its developer option

https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/74887/force-android-to-display-in-grayscale
[L Speed] :
No it make a sound when lspeed is applying configuration

just after boot.

The doze don't do any sound.
[L Speed] koyo:
Hey. You say to not change the Seeder setting but when I set it to Aggressive, my phone is extremely smooth 100 percent of the time despite a noticeable battery drain. Setting it to Moderate makes it somewhat laggy again. I use a 1gb ram Moto G3.
[L Speed] :
The seeder option depends on how your cpu reacts, generally seeder works well on old phones running Android 4 but on new phones this option makes your cpu run on high frequencies and that result in a high battery drain.

So you need to test by activate seeder and watch with a system monitor if your cpu runs on high frequencies or not.

Hope it helped?
[L Speed] koyo:
Weird. When I use Apps2SD to set my CPU to run at full frequency at all times, I still don't get this Pixel level smoothness I am getting with the Seeder set to aggressive. Not to mention I just got 3 hours of screen on time from only 20 percent battery. It's crazy and makes my phone so much more usable.
[L Speed] :
The best way for your moto G3 to reach this level is that you instal squid kernel and lineage os.

Lspeed is perfect but not enough if you have an old phone running old Android version.

You can flash them easily with guides on xda
[L Speed] koyo:
I don't have LineageOS, but I do have CyanogenMod 13. Like all phones, it didn't lag at all when it was a clean install. Several app installs later and it started to lag alot, especially when scrolling. Aggressive seeder seems to fix this wholly. I wasn't wondering how to make my phone smooth. Seeder corrected that. I'm wondering why he says to not change it when it makes such a big difference.
[L Speed] DB126:
Explained a few posts back. Increasing seeder values is usually unnecessary on newer devices/ROMs and often triggers excess battery drain. Your device seems to be an exception. If it works, use it.
[L Speed] koyo:
I wonder if it's not the case of new old device but the amount of ram available too. Maybe your definition of newer devices is different from mine but I don't think the Moto G3 is old
[L Speed] DB126:
App suite and sensor activity are the two biggest drains on entropy. Available RAM is not a big factor although anything that generates activity (eg: swaps) can reduce entropy.

Never said G3 is an "old" device, nor is newer with a modern SOC and sensor suite.