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[Galaxy Note 4 General] THS1989:
This is fuc%!ng stupid.

99.9% of Note 4 users across the world won't buy gear VR.

0.1% of people who do....buy it for virtual porn....

They are delaying Lolipop so the 0.1% can get a better VR porn experience ???

Release Lolipop and make Gear VR an optional download.....
[Galaxy Note 4 General] MyPeople:
yes, thats the reason.

Most of the internet traffic is related to porn and Samsung know that. Apple and Microsoft still dont want to play with porn but Samsung want to give us a good porn experience beacuase then they know they will run the world of smartphones.

do you know thepiratebay? the site was down and everybody was sad from argentina to vietnam, from south pole to Iceland. Now the site is back and everybody is happy because of that. And guess what: 90% of the uploads since the site is back are porn related
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom-Helge:
And what benefits do you get with CyanogenMod except for maybe 5% smoother experience?

Do you get the S Pen popup when you take out the pen from the phone with CM12?

Do you get all of the nice 'S Pen' functionality on CM12?

Do you get a camera on CM12 that is as good as the Samsung's camera for the Galaxy Note 4?

Do you get the awesome 'Multiwindow' functionality with CM12?

Do you have the 'Side key panel' function on CM12?

Do you get the 'fingerprint scanner' to work in CM12?

Can you use the screen with gloves on CM12?

Do you have the 'Download booster' on CM12?

Do you have the 'Power saving' and 'Ultra power saving' mode on CM12?

Do you have the 'Private mode' on CM12?

Do you get the accurate color mode (Basic mode) on CM12?

Do you have the 'Smart stay' function on CM12?

Do you have the 'Direct call' functionality on CM12?

Do you have the 'Smart alert' functionality on CM12?

Do you have the rest of the 'Motion and gestures' functionality on CM12?

Do you have the 'Hearthrate monitor' function on CM12?

Should i go on with things you are losing by going to CM12 from a Samsung TouchWiz ROM on the Galaxy Note 4?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] andythilo:
Do you get the S Pen popup when you take out the pen from the phone with CM12? Don't need it

Do you get all of the nice 'S Pen' functionality on CM12? Don't need it

Do you get a camera on CM12 that is as good as the Samsung's camera for the Galaxy Note 4? Yep

Do you get the awesome 'Multiwindow' functionality with CM12? Don't need it

Do you have the 'Side key panel' function on CM12? Don't need it

Do you get the 'fingerprint scanner' to work in CM12? Don't need it

Can you use the screen with gloves on CM12? Don't need it

Do you have the 'Download booster' on CM12? Don't need it

Do you have the 'Power saving' and 'Ultra power saving' mode on CM12? Don't need it

Do you have the 'Private mode' on CM12? Don't need it

Do you get the accurate color mode (Basic mode) on CM12? Don't need it

Do you have the 'Smart stay' function on CM12? Don't need it

Do you have the 'Direct call' functionality on CM12? Don't need it

Do you have the 'Smart alert' functionality on CM12? Don't need it

Do you have the rest of the 'Motion and gestures' functionality on CM12? Don't need it

Do you have the 'Hearthrate monitor' function on CM12? Don't need it

Should i go on with things you are losing by going to CM12 from a Samsung TouchWiz ROM on the Galaxy Note 4? If you're bored yeah. I'd rather have a nice fast phone that does what I want, not full of crap that I don't need.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom540:
I agree, if I used these often I would be reluctant to leave TW. However, since I much prefer the look and smoothness of stock over TW, I am happy to use CM, and there are other reasons, such as always being on the latest version of android, far easier DPI changing, the features CM adds to stock and more.

Let's not derail this thread though, there's no point in arguing since we all have pur preferences
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom-Helge:
Well, that's fine. But i forgot to list one thing to.

You don't get as good batterylife with CM12 over a TouchWiz ROM as it's better optimized for the Galaxy Note 4.

So why are you buying the Galaxy Note 4 to begin with if you don't need the features it has?

Oh it has the hardware?

So does the Nexus 6.

Oh also. No, the Camera on CM12 are horrible in comparsion to the Samsung camera when it comes to quality.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom540:
Right now, yes, but I'm sure that soon the battery life will be on par or better on CM; on previous devices for me that has certainly been the case.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom-Helge:
And you don't think the batterylife on Samsung TouchWiz ROM will get improved later to?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Hitman42:
If you need nothing go to buy a Nexus 6 ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] andythilo:
Blimey LOL, CM hater keyboard warriors.

I'll explain.

I had a HTC One M8. I have a Note 12.2. I wanted a smaller device able to make notes on for work when I don't have my 12.2 with me. The note 4 fitted.

I have no need for all those functions. I only use Papyrus and I don't need my phone to make a funny noise when I take the pen out. I don't need to take my pen out to take a screenshot. I take my pen out and I write stuff with it.

Touchwiz is fine, has lots of features if that's what you want. I do not. And pardon me, but I'll buy what I want and do what I want to it :).

Anyway, heres to 5 being released soon so that CM goes official :p
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Archiimonde:
Damn, there are some butthurt people in here. I don't see why it's so important to get the update right away, rather than getting a less bug-ridden one later.

You can still use the pen, just not to it's full potential. The Note's hardware is better than the Nexus'. Do you have a camera and battery comparison instead of statements? If the difference is so big, then you should have no problem showing us.

That was not the point? If battery life consistently has been better on CM, why should it not be in this case?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom-Helge:
There is tests done for the Samsung Galaxy S4, Note 3 and S5 on YouTube and on different review pages where there have been confirmed that the CM11 / CM12 cameras gives worser results than the stock Samsung cameras on those phones.

So, there is no reasons that the CM12 camera on the Note 4 is going to be better than the stock camera when that have never been the case on earlier phones.

You can turn off the sound when you takes the pen out.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] #1RAGE:
According to John Carmack the rumor about Gear VR delaying Lollipop for the Note 4 is false.

Check out @ID_AA_Carmack's Tweet: https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/561652982987915264?s=09
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Armazia:
But what do you get what noone on touchwiz has(Note 4)?!

Android 5.0.2!

Seriously, you can choose for yourself what you want to use. CM12 or Touchwiz. Some people don't use the pen that often(like me), some people do not care about all the fit features the note 4 has(Like me). The fingerprint scanner is something I miss yes.

And no I am not on CM12 but on X-Note, but I have used CM12 for a while, and I must say; the stock look overrules the Touchwiz rom big time, people are getting positive about touchwiz; but Imho Touchwiz is even getting worse by its new looks. I knew all the buttons in the settings, and now the layout changed and I need to search for them. The look of the toggles just looks like some simple 'press me' button. I see why you would choose CM12.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom-Helge:
But what does Android 4.4.4 or TouchWiz in this case get that Android 5.0.2 doesn't get?

Xposed Framework.

Without it, there is no chance that i'm gonna use Android 5.0.2, even as a TouchWiz version.

And also, i use X-Note my self now. Best ROM for the Note 4 now, PERIOD.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] MyPeople:
Then why tdid you buy a Note 4? Lol

I feel sorry for you. Someone should have tell you what touchwiz is about before you spent the money.

if you don't need all those things you should have buy a Nexus or OnePlus and you still would have around $200 in your pocket
[Galaxy Note 4 General] andythilo:
Read the post troll :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
stop bull ****ting the thread with cm12 vs touchwiz comparison, the thread was opened to talk about the delay in touchwiz lollipop update . Though i like cm12 along with touchwiz its stupid to see cm12 lovers come here and keep emphasizing that cm 12 is better. If you love cm12 then just stick with the respective threads and stop spamming wherever possible
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
Finally someone said it.Maybe a mod should edit this thread to keep it clean from CM vs touchwiz topics...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Archiimonde:
Nobody claimed it would be better, just equivalent. Do you have those links?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mkim055:
.....aaaaand its February 2nd.....

Wheres my Lollipop Samsung!...

Sigh..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zurkx:
end feb as per the schedule. code is frozen and final build is done. 4 weeks to QA and roll out.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
Let's hope they release lollipop by the end of the year...hahaha
[Galaxy Note 4 General] NamelessFragger:
So Carmack denies the "Lollipop update delay due to Gear VR kernel tuning" claims. I'll take his word for it.

All the naysayers can stuff it. I'm fixing to buy a Gear VR soon, and if the Lollipop update got released and I found out my brand new Gear VR didn't work because of that update, I'd be pissed off. I'm tired of waiting for the Rift CV1 and don't want a subpar experience with the DK2's Note 3 screen.

And if you think the only use for it is VR porn, you need to think beyond your **** because it's probably just as short-sighted. The gaming possibilities are huge, albeit not nearly to the extent of a gaming PC with a simulator cockpit built around it. I figure some Trinus Gyre finagling or whatever can be a stopgap measure to playing stuff like Star Citizen or Elite: Dangerous in HMD mode 'til we get the Rift CV1.

Also, as other people have pointed out, there are memory leaks and other issues with the early Lollipop builds that Nexus users have complained about all the time. I've tried pre-alpha AOSP Lollipop builds on my old Galaxy S3 and found things like nonfunctioning cameras and broken graphics drivers. I don't want to put up with that crap. You only get one shot at a good first impression - make it count.

If the wait for Lollipop on the Note 4 feels agonizing, and believe me, I don't like waiting, you need to realize that it's not just the Note 4. No phone I've seen aside from the Nexus products has an official Lollipop update pushed out in the United States. Not a single one. The Galaxy S5 doesn't have it, the LG G3 doesn't have it, and all the older phones I've seen on display in the stores also don't have it.

We probably have the carriers to thank for that more than anything, all things considered, but until they deem Samsung's Lollipop update to be stable enough (probably after shoving all their damn bloatware in it), we're not gonna get it.

Until then, enjoy KitKat like the vast majority of flagship smartphone owners. It's not like it's completely useless without Lollipop.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] isaakmg:
False.........

Do you read?????

According to John Carmack the rumor about Gear VR delaying Lollipop for the Note 4 is false.<br />

<br />

Check out @ID_AA_Carmack's Tweet: https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/561652982987915264?s=09<br/>
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mkim055:
Source?

Sent from my SM-N910U
[Galaxy Note 4 General] NamelessFragger:
Maybe if YOU had some decent reading comprehension, I said that he denied those claims, by which I meant the very tweet you linked in here several times. By "taking his word", I meant I believed the tweet.

Do I have to go back and edit my post to make that clear because you don't read?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zurkx:
samsung manager.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mkim055:
No link?

Sent from my SM-N910U
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ciscostud:
Yes if Carmack say false, its false.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
Does John Carmack only play the game "False or False" or can he can "True or False" as well?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jhill110:
Or any phone. I gave up on it (cm7) a long time ago. Has there ever been a version that worked right? Nope...

Actually I tried unofficial cm12 just to get a taste of lolly... That lasted about an hour... I'll wait patiently for the official hopefully bug free version. Don't care much why it's delayed... It certainly isn't because samsung doesn't care about GN4 owners

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You should have bought a Nexus. ? You dont need this awesome GN4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zurkx:
its been posted like a billion times. go read posts by tkmobilesupport.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
If they gonna give more optimized software which they gonna use in s6 im happy to wait but i doubt it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mkim055:
When S6 gets released, Note4 will get that slim TW update as well I reckon.

Sent from my SM-N910U
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
If we gonna wait 1 month till s6 release and get it its ok for me. But samsung will probably give that on later android update or never give it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
I fear we won't get the touchwiz from the s6...but then again the s4 and note 3 got it from the s5. .
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Toss3:
Must say the Gear VR is awesome, so I highly recommend getting one. The only problem with it right now is the screen door effect that happens due to the low resolution of the Note 4 (>4K screen is definitely needed). Ordered one from the US and the experience is pretty darn great! Love watching movies on it in bed. Wish I could get my server files to show up in the VR Gallery (right now I have to download them to my phone everytime I want to watch something). :good:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] NamelessFragger:
Wait, there's still some screen door effect on the Note 4 through the Gear VR? I looked at this screen with a small magnifying glass and it was still pretty dense, within acceptable levels! Figured it might just be good enough for the Rift CV1, but I guess not.

Of course, people who think the Rift DK2 is bad with that have never strapped on an old 1990s HMD from Forte or Virtual i-O where the screen for each eye wasn't even 320x240. Every single subpixel was huge and painfully apparent because of that. Display tech's come a long way in two decades, that's for sure, and we largely have the smartphone arms race to thank for it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jonathan-H:
VR is overrated and will die out the same as it did last time. I have used VR as well as true 3D gaming from way back in the day, and while it was better back then than it is now, even improving it, it'll be no more useful than 3D movies which are niche at best.

Putting gaming hopes in something which will be useless for anything quicker paced than a survival horror with no shooting elements or "movies" is useless and a waste of energy.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Toss3:
The step up to 2560x1440 from 1920x1080 isn't as big as one would think. Going from 2560x1440 to 3840x2160 would be a much larger leap forward, and would make a huge difference. The only complaints about the VR experience I've heard so far have been that everything is a bit muddy (thanks to the low resolution). It isn't as bad as it was on the earlier models, but it is definitely still there.

I'm actually kind of glad the experience isn't perfect as that would keep me from enjoying my new front projector. ;)

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VR is awesome and much better than it was way back in the day - granted there are still some small quirks that need sorting out, but Oculus have done an amazing job at reducing the lag to unnoticeable levels. You can also use the Gear VR to watch any 2D movie as well, and in those cases it functions as your private movie theatre when you don't want to disturb anyone else (or when you don't want to be disturbed, like on an airplane- Qantas will start offering it in 1st class: http://www.roadtovr.com/qantas-offer-1st-class-passengers-samsung-gear-vr-360-3d-videos-jaunt/), and the experience is much better than watching content on the small display while holding it in your hands.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] illogic6:
I have to disagree. The possibilities that come with modern VR are pretty astounding. Have you tried a modern VR headset? JanusVR?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
Looks like things might be delayed even more.

http://techdroid.eu/android-5-1-lollipop-release-next-month/

How likely do you think Samsung will cancel the 5.0.1 update and start over for 5.1?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] xvital:
If there is something i have learned from Samsung in the past years, it would be that they Are not trusted in term of the updates release dates.

If you want the update just ignore it, there will not be a specific release date for any update.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
Those are great news!!

Just kidding, seriously they can't bring lollipop to their newest device but can for the note 3 and s4...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ce:
reading the changelog I think i'm not even going to update to (probably) samsung's 5.0.2 TW version.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ciscostud:
So who can we trust then?

How can you expect anyone to release a stable L rom when google can't.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
Let's all rejoice, Verizon started rolling out Lollipop for the S5, ain't that great?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Svendrae:
In germany most flagship devices are updated to 5.0.x

LG G3, Galaxy S5, ONE M8. But Note 4 not.

When the One M9 is coming I will sell the Note 4, I want a flagship device with good hardware AND good Software-Support.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jonahtriangle:
I used to be an htc fan until i realized their hardware was always just short of samsung. Being in those threads for a few years i have seen so many people say they want to jump ship. Even because of updates too. Now i come here because i like what Samsung has done and all I see are wining crying babies just like htc threads. This is just like my wife when we go to the grocery store, as soon as I get in a line at the register with 3 people ahead of me. She is scouting every line to se which one was faster. She will move to 3 lanes just to find out that the first lane I was in, was moving just as fast as the others. We waiste so much energy by creating our own conflict it's not even funny. Everyone should just relax about this update. It's not gonna make your hot dog any bigger than your friend because you have Lollipop. It is not going to magically read your girlfriend's mind so you can be ahead of the game. Till then, when it does come out I am perfectly happy with what I have now. My phone is faster than my PC for crying out loud. I will just pop in periodically to see if the update is available. I will not be angry at the manufacturer or the Gear VR or whatever it is holding up the update. Just calm the hell down ya'll.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] vasishta.sushant:
^^^

Loved the reply fella.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tuckersmission:
[MENTION=2070458]jonahtriangle[/MENTION]

Ha ha ha! Seriously good post. It's the world we live in Bro...

I have no expectations 's about my hotdog though.

Peace
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Braxos:
Then Don't pick the register with the beautiful 24 years old girl. ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Flyer.michael:
I see it your way...

EXCEPT for the point that it will make the phone much more usable for Gear VR users.

???

Due to the ridiculous low 32GB the note 4 comes with, we (the Gear VR users) need to really have a convenient SD card access without root. A HQ 30 minutes 360 video has 5-8GB

HQ 180 degree porn around 3-5 GB

As we all know in some cases/countries root will void warranty - and in the Gear VR, the note 4 runs on maximum clocks, constantly on the limit, often to the overheating provoked forced shutdown.

I, just because of this, don't wanna have the the Note 4 without warranty.

In this case 5.x will be a drastic improvement
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jonahtriangle:
Oh I don't disagree with you about the update being impotant for Gear VR. However I just think we should all be patient. Remember one thing, that VR is a brand new technology for Samsung. No brand new product ever launched reached the consumer flawless. There will always need improvement. That's what you get for buying something when it first comes out (PROBLEMS). Slow and low wins the race. For that reason, when this lollipop drops, do you think I want to be the first person to flash it? No. I will be patient and wait to see what problems come with it to see if I want the update or not. Till then man just enjoy you VR the way it is. It's awesome I'm sure. Android has baggage too, like sd card and such but at the end of the day we still have to find happiness with our device. They all have baggage Apple too. We just have to pick which baggage we want to deal with. Like I would rather have the VR with the sd card issue than not have one at all. Just my 2 cents.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] megatooth:
This guy here has it. :(

http://www.reddit.com/r/galaxynote4/comments/2ujma1/lollipop_on_my_note_4_any_questions/

Edit: Screenshots:

http://imgur.com/a/mobWQ
[Galaxy Note 4 General] slink_59:
He hided his Note4 variant model so maybe it's a N9106w

EDIT: See screenshot, should be N910W or N910V variant

Sent from my SM-N910C
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pikul:
Note edge users have it now xD if vr users dont need lollipop just yet because of posible issues, why not just cancel the update just for them lol
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
We are getting closer to the update it seems, btw the new volume options looks nice
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sephkateno:
He could also be a fraud.. Can you spot a difference if it was a note 3 with moded buildprop in order to change the model number? As far as i know there are lollipop roms for the note 3 on xda flash one change the model number and start all this charade although i don't see the point behind something like that.... Does he have any images of the actual device the body of it any hard proof you know.... I didn't see any although I just glanced at the sight....

EDIT: Just checked a pic which shows fast charging meaning it can't be note 3 does the s5 have fast charging if yes this could be one too...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] slink_59:
As far i know, it's not possible to change baseband version by editing build.prop lol

Sent from my SM-N910C
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
S5 doesn't have fast charging.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
Maybe then. Too bad he won't leak it out to the rest of us.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sephkateno:
I'm not sure about this but how about the lines on the pic below? Won't these change the about information in settings? I couldn't know any better...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
I don't see a reason to why not...hell with him, hopefully we'll get an OTA in several days :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sephkateno:
Oh I didn't know never had the device

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It would be awesome if he did although I don't see there is a chance he would...

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I really hope so I wouldn't cross my fingers though the first phone that I rooted was because I was forever waiting for ics to come out but was always postponed from month to month then I checked xda and realized was I was missing :p
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
He's also the same person that got their hands on a leaked Note 4. I have a feeling they work either for Samsung or a higher up wireless provider.

EDIT: Reading through the comments looks like he didn't obtain a leaked firmware but was rather given a device with it at his work. That's probably why it hasn't been reported anywhere.