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[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Heya, yea should be safe to change the video memory, did it a few hours ago and been trying out all kinds of games with no trouble, just know that it will eat a bit more RAM, so depending on what you want to do you may want to fiddle with the graphic memory setting a bit to get the best balance for your use. Anyway heres how you find the setting:

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Quick and dirty Intel Graphics Memory tweaking tutorial

Get into BIOS

Metro menu -> PC settings -> Update and recovery -> Recovery -> Advanced startup / Restart now

Troubleshoot -> Advanced options -> UEFI Firmware Settings -> Restart

When in BIOS

Chipset -> North Bridge -> Intel IGD Configuration -> DVMT Pre-Allocated

Change to any of the given values (press [Enter] to change, [Up] & [Down] to choose, [Enter] to confirm)

Press [F4] to save & quit (on my keyboard that's [Fn]+[play/pause]) after which it should boot into windows again and give you a somewhat better graphics performance

(I set mine to 512 but 256 is most likely good enough for most things while leaving a little more RAM 'on the bone' for the OS & programs.)

That said, like _gl and the neowin article he quoted pointed out already, i should underline that the BIOS allows you to do way to much, if you don't know what your doing, then don't touch anything besides what i just described, i hereby deny any accountability for you breaking your tablet by changing random stuff ^_^

If you run into issues of low ram due to (ab)using it as video memory, remember that windows has virtual memory and 'readyboost', i have never used the second, but that might be possible with an sd card, but the first (virtual memory) is easy to set up, takes a bit of disk space, and will help battle low ram warnings, just google 'win8 virtual memory' for some pointers on setting that up.

Hope this helped :D

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Anyways, been poking around my tablet some more checking if everything works as it should, and sadly i noticed that the Bluetooth isn't working, i have installed drivers from the link in OP, the device manager lists it as a "Realtek Bluetooth UART Bus Driver", but sadly with the status

This device cannot start (Code 10)
STATUS_DEVICE_POWER_FAILURE

:(

Anybody got any ideas? maybe a BIOS option i missed to enable it? (i did find one Bluetooth option in the BIOS but that appears to be too switch between 2 bluetooth modules PIPO often uses, its set too the Realtek one, but theres also a Broadcom option, that did even less when i tried it) should i dare open my brand new tablet (at the risk of ruining the body) to see if all cables inside are properly connected?

:confused:
[Windows 8 General] Linkito93:
Well I entered into the Bios and there are lot of interesting options. Mine got option "more performance while charge" by default, but I saw others like the Windows / Android boot (I guess dont work) among others.

My bluethoot by default isn't realtek, and it works fine, but one time I got an annoying problem with screen autorotation, saying that the driver did not work. I had to reboot and everything returned to normal.

Another question: Someone knows how to desactivate the "auto screen lighting balance"? I turned off auto light level in Windows (And guessed find the other in BIOS) but when Im seeing a film or something the screen light changes (When is black colors it swap to less light and when is white colors it changes to more light) personally, it's annoying cose is an abrupt change.

Thank you!
[Windows 8 General] misbehave:
Will the video memory tweak help with smoother full HD video playback?

Or will it only affect 3D graphics only and no help on 2D HD video playback?
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
It should help with graphics performance across the board, best i can tell you is to just try it. (again, while beeing carefull around all the other BIOS settings)

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Meanwhile, like a few people in this thread i was wondering how large of a SD card i can shove in the PIPO, so i just picked up a 128gb SDXC, it got detected without issue, will test what happens if i stuff it full of files, but thinking that if it sees it (119gb of it) then it'll prolly work fine too.

:cool:

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Sorry, missed your reply last time around, what is your bluetooth thingy set too then? is it the broadcom option? if so, could you check your windows device manager and let me know what the broadcom bluetooth thing is listed as?

About the screen brightness changing for full screen video im guessing you can find that in the intel settings?

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Also, yay, ran into another issue, while i know it worked before, im now getting a blue screen when i try and use the camera on the back of the tablet :(
[Windows 8 General] Linkito93:
I can selec 2 in Blue Tooth (BIOS->Advanced->Platform Configuration) I can select "RealTech" or "BroadCom". The selected is RealTech. And i dont know about ur issues with the cameras, in Bios my selected are Rear - 0V5648 and Front 0V2722.

Hope it helps.
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Thanks for those values :)

Heya, those are exactly the same options that mine is set too, but for me the bluetooth never worked, and the rear camera stopped working somewhere yesterday (thanks for sharing the settings btw, its what they where from the start for me aswell)

Ive sent Banggood (the site i bought it from) a lengthy detailed mail describing keyboard flaws, broken bluetooth, and camera creating bluescreen, will let you all know if anything comes from that, for now im installing more windows updates, hoping it will change anything. I'll also try lower the graphics memory again since one site i found when looking for the bluescreen error code i get when i try use the rear camera says the BSOD relates to low RAM, so increasing the memory used by the intel graphics may actually be cause of this, but cant test atm since windows update is effin slow (been going for at least an hour now, 47 of 69 installed now)

Btw, about your brightness changing itself, did you try turn both of these settings Off in the "Power options"? (reach power options by rightclicking the battery icon in your tray (bottom right) and going somewhere like "Change power settings -> Change advanced power settings", again, currently stuck in a slow windows update process)
[Windows 8 General] Linkito93:
Yes, that are the settings I changed. Today I tried with Intel Settings, and for now it seems work (Changed color and video settings to "application decides" instead "use this hardware configuration").

Do you save more than one plan in Power Options by default? Mine just got "Balanced", I cant touch so much options so I revised and who cares :eek:
[Windows 8 General] NeoMatrixJR:
Sorry to jack the w3 thread for more w8 stuffs, but I just heard back from banggood.:
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Ah ok good to know, and yeah, i only have a 'Balanced' power plan too

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Btw, ive tested some settings, and the camera BSOD doesnt seem to relate to amount of RAM
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Yep Pompmall got back to me privately and said twice that they don't include the keyboard after all (so their first reply was wrong). Very strange that nobody seems to have it.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Sigh, now Pompmall say again it IS included:

"Sorry we have double checked for you, the PIPO W8 is equipped with the keyboard, and we will send out the keyboard with the tablet together. Zoe.".

This is the kind of thing you have to watch out for with China sellers. It's possible that the others simply don't know, as they don't have stock yet (Pompmall claim they have). I will ask Bangood to check direct with their supplier or the factory.
[Windows 8 General] misbehave:
LOL, if you prefer to ask them in Chinese instead, I can help you translate the message.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Thanks! I'll see what Bangood's response is first (will post here).
[Windows 8 General] kbl:
Stuck in Android Paritition

Hello,

Has anyone else had an issue where the tablet gets stuck in Android? The boot selector only has an Android icon... no Windows icon. I just received this tablet... it's the first time I've switched into Android so it's a little frustrating that I can't seem to go back.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Wrong thread - this is for the Pipo W3 (and W8 :)) which are Windows-only.
[Windows 8 General] NeoMatrixJR:
Got this response from pipo-store.com:

Makes me wonder if, since banggood is repacking the tablet, if they're skimming the keyboards to resale separately. I'm hoping this is just a lack of knowledge since they don't have the product in-hand yet. I generally like banggood, but if they were doing something like this I'd never buy from them again. Interested in hearing what _gl hears back from them.

interesting... pompmall & pipo-store both now have all 4 options (grey/gold, 64/128) at the same prices (469/499) and cost about the same on shipping and both responded to us with someone named zoe...
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Let's hope not, I'll let you know.

It's possible that the sellers are just sending orders to the factory/Pipo to drop-ship them. So maybe a Pipo rep (Zoe?) also handles questions for them? Or maybe Pompmall run Pipo-store for Pipo (or just for themselves as another outlet). AFAIK, China 'manufacturers' are often just agents for the real factory or maker, so these kinds of layers aren't unusual (but confusing!). That explains why eg. the S10 looks like it's made by the same people. I have an older Chinese glasses-free 3D Android tab (Gadmei E8-3D) and that was rebadged a lot too.
[Windows 8 General] Linkito93:
I have an annoying problem and I don't know if is because I was closing some useless services (But no one related with the screen rotation). Normally I have the auto screen rotation desactivated, but last days worked fine. Right now I was seeing some documents and wanted the autorotate but It wont works =S

I will try later shut dow the tablet and check again but is so strange, there is no "driver problems" or something.

EDIT: Okay, just deshabilited and rehabilited the device driver again in the devices panel and works fine again.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Maybe not the same thing, but I also sometimes find the tab confuses itself and refuses to rotate. But IIRC I fix it by switching it on and off briefly, I don't have to reboot.

Lately I'm noticing another annoying problem - the Metro version of IE keeps hanging for a few seconds on certain pages, eg. Ebay. If I switch to the desktop by swiping in from the left and back again, it's instantly fixed, so I think this is a bug rather than something being really busy. Anybody ever see this?
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
W8 keyboard:

Bangood: "Since it still have't in stock now, most things still can not sure, our supplier said it will be in stock within two days, we will modify all the things when we confirm, thanks. Shawin"

So as I thought they don't actually know. I bet it has the keyboard, worth waiting.

Pompmall (I asked them to triple-check): "Do not worry, we will have fully test before we send and the PIPO W8 do comes with keyboard. Zoe"
[Windows 8 General] NeoMatrixJR:
Ah the fun of sorting out scheduling in China vs USA. So, BG sent the message presumably last night, or Thursday for them. +2 days = Saturday, so we probably won't see anything updated on the site until at least Monday if I was guessing...and that's if they update it right away. I still haven't heard back from pompmall at all unless, like you said, pompmall and pipo-store are the same. Do we know when their pre-order period ends? It says 1-2 weeks, but it doesn't give the start or end times so that's more than a bit vague.

I'm really torn between pre-ordering in hopes of a better price, or waiting for some reviews. [MENTION=1167021]Hendrickson[/MENTION] from techtablets has it in his signature that he will be reviewing it. Looks like they already have a header page for it: here. They also have a hands-on already for the Onda v116w Core M. Full-sized USB, but only FHD screen. <sigh> can't get everything in one tablet can you? I do hope the W8 will have a laminated screen Would be a pity to have such a hi-rez nice screen have a horrible mirroring effect.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
I think it's May 15, ie. the first two weeks in May are the pre-order period. Have you done BG's 'Alert me on arrival' feature? It seems to lock in the pre-sale price if you choose to go ahead.

I hear ya. My ideal tablet would have a full-size USB3 port, wide gamut AdobeRGB screen (probably OLED) for my art stuff and a stylus. As we don't have wide-gamut Windows tabs yet, the only other one I'd want is the Surface Pro 3 - but the used prices here in the UK are way above my budget. So I'll probably grab the W8 from BG (if it has the keyboard). If I do I'll do a review.
[Windows 8 General] NeoMatrixJR:
I think I did that on the 64GB tab and then I read it said something about a pre-order... I didn't mean to pre-order at the time and it freaked me out. It sounds like this is a half-way system then? It price-locks for you, but you don't have to commit to the order? I might go submit again on the 128GB just to be sure then :)

Sadly, we want it all, and we want it cheap :) Just never works out that way. Yeah, I'd LOVE an i5 or i7 Pro3, but that's WAYYYY out of budget. I still need money for my eventual upgrade to a 4k monitor on my desktop after all :)....wishful thinking.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
I think so. It's not like they can force you to buy :).

Amen :).

:fingers-crossed:
[Windows 8 General] Linkito93:
Someone knows if there is any way to improve the audio quality across speakers? The sound isnt bad but normally when Im watching a movie or series, the voice is hard to listen with the other sounds.
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Sorry to go back ontopic (hint hint! make a W8 thread guys!) but a little update on my W3 endeavors:

- Got banggood to offer me a replacement keyboard instead of some points for a discount (hint: if you ever find yourself in the same situation, say that you cant buy the keyboards separately so them giving you some discount is totally useless)

- Got both my camera's (which seemed to pass around the BSOD stick) to play nicely again, simply by removing them (and their drivers!) from device manager, rebooting, and re-installing the devices using the driver package found in the first post of this thread (did have to do that 4-5 times before it actually solved things, but hey, at least its solved) also note that im fairly sure windows update "broke" them.

- Currently looking at re-flashing the entire firmware image (eep!) to try solve the Bluetooth issue (based on a email convo with banggood) which i will prolly try tonight, if that doesn't resolve things i'll prolly be sending it back to banggood along with the keyboard.

Will post an update again as things progress.

You may be able to improve things by installing audio enhancers like SRS or similar, but realistically the audio will always be this shoddy, there's hardly any 'soundchamber' in the speakers used, if you want better sounds, you may have to go the length of replacing the speakers, wich i would advice against at least the first year or so that you have the tablet (because that will obviously void your warranty, and who knows if it will even work as intended)
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Shiny new W8 thread. Please add your info there.
[Windows 8 General] orditeck:
I've got a small issue.

I just bought this tablet and re-installed Win8.1 Pro. I installed all the drivers but some of them don't seem to work because the installer won't open.

WiFi, Bluetooth, rotation, battery, screen, touchscreen, it all work.

The only two things not working are:

- Camera, I could live without that

- Sleep. When it goes to sleep and then I move the mouse or click the power button, I see that the LCD "power on" but it's still black. I have to force-reboot by long-pressing the power button and turn it on again.

Any idea how to fix that? Which driver could help me? As I said, some driver installer won't open...
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
I saw this with the most recent Intel HD graphics driver, usually on but black screen coming out of standby, only option was to hard reboot. I fixed it by going back to the original driver OMGitsShan posted. Bizarre bug, v. strange for Intel. It's probably some BIOS setting or bug that the new driver doesn't like.
[Windows 8 General] orditeck:
Thanks, I'll look into that direction. I did took these drivers however. Another interesting thing is that the red light right to the front camera is always on when the tablet is on. I watched some videos on youtube and the light doesn't seem on. Should it turn on only when the camera is in use?

Edit: I reinstalled windows, and without any driver, I still have the sleep issue. So either the driver was missing in my first install or the tablet has a problem. The red led next to the front camera is still always on.

Edit2: So now I reinstalled all the drivers and I'm still getting those two issues: red led next to the front camera always on and wake up from sleep = black sreen, need hard reboot. I can hear Windows make sounds when I press some keys so... Windows isn't frozen.

If someone could help I'd be very very thankful.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
V. helpful instructions.

The Bluetooth thing sucks (edit) actually I had mine working once to transfer some files (slow and painful, I've now bought a USB3.0 ethernet dongle). So it should work.

Re. keyboard, post a pic? Is it the origami/folding type, thin grey velvety cover, with 'Pipo' printed on the front?

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BTW, my keyboard also has what looks like a type of permanent sticker on it. I assume it's cheaper than making different engraved keys. But mine are all correct.

BTW [MENTION=6269097]orditeck[/MENTION], the LED by the front camera should not be lit all the time. On mine it only lights during BIOS boot IIRC. So it's probably the camera driver than turns it off.

I actually would like that LED to show real-time Wifi / 3G traffic. If I knew how to drive it from a program, I would write a little program to do it.
[Windows 8 General] orditeck:
[MENTION=1093776]suicidal.banana[/MENTION] thank you. My tablet is the W3F but the official thread seems less active than this one so I decided to post here and adjust the answer accordingly to my tablet. Your answer is really helpful, I was actually installing the chipset drivers with the "setup.exe" file but there is a .bat file in the scripts folder and it seems that it install more stuff. I'm currently re-installing Windows (again!) as I tested lot of stuff and want a clean install. I'll let you know but I've good hope!
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Hope the instructions will help the guy overcome his issues, this tablet is actually pretty damn great, besides the small quirks all over the place, and once you covered those quirks you'll be laughing at people that bought surface tablets for triple the price. :highfive:

Been poking at the Bluetooth thing for about a week now, and it really seems to be a hardware issue, it never worked, and whatever i try (from re-installing drivers to resetting to factory settings to flashing that Chinese image) it just sticks too the same problem message in the device manager:

This device cannot start (Code 10)
STATUS_DEVICE_POWER_FAILURE

And now that i've had somebody open the thing up to look at the connections (wich ive been told where good) the only remaining possibility is a broken Bluetooth chip.

You do make a fair point that it prolly wont even be fast when i do get it working, but its more of a principle thing, ive got plenty of usb bluetooth dongles, but id rather just keep the usb port free for fancier hardware.

The keyboard cover that i got with it is truly laughable, please direct your attention too these pics

But then when i told Banggood that the keyboard doesn't match whats displayed (besides the fail with the number keys it also doesnt have the status leds for capslock numlock etc, nor the PIPO logo) they told me this is the new keyboard that PIPO delivers with it, which sounds pretty bull****ty too me.

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Glad to help :) i gotta say im enjoying myself poking at this tablet (and win8) from every angle, feel free to ask questions specifically about your W3F, most of the hardware (besides cpu and hdd) prolly is the exact same anyway, so yea, ask away :)
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
It could also be a BIOS setting. Have you tried downloading & flashing the W3 BIOS posted earlier in the thread? That seems to reset the settings to defaults. Of course messing with the BIOS settings manually can be dangerous, but if you're thinking of sending it back anyway, not much to loose :).

It's most likely from the same factory as the shape, materials, magnetic lock etc seem to match (I can't imagine someone going to the trouble of copying it). But it's not the same, apart from what you mentioned it also has the F keys as FN keys, with the special keys in white (reverse to mine). It also doesn't have FN functions for the arrow keys (Home/End etc), and a strange icon on the 2nd key to the left of the left arrow.

My hunch is the factory ran out of Pipo customised keyboards, so they just threw in one customised for a different tablet.

Although strangely, yours doesn't seem to have the key stickers like mine. On mine the white key is printed on a black that is darker than the key itself - not noticeable unless you look close. It's possible that they had key problems like yours from the factory, and decided to change to stickers or some different printing method that looks like stickers. When I get time I'll post a pic of mine so you can compare.
[Windows 8 General] orditeck:
[MENTION=1093776]suicidal.banana[/MENTION] Could you tell me what camera drivers you have installed? And, if possible, something that could allow me to figure which camera is the right one, like the path to the peripheral. I don't have the exact terms as my Windows is in french. But when you go into the properties of your cameras, you should have a Details tab where you can find a dropdown. Select Access path or something like that and paste the value here. I think that could help me. Not sure if it's the same drivers as my tablet is the W3F...

I still have the sleep issue. I really don't understand why.

Oh and, I have the exact same keyboard with my W3F. The touchpad is soooo bad. But otherwise it's good, no print errors like yours.
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Thats actually the one thing i've been holding back on, mostly because of the issues mentioned with BIOS and USB devices, where if you don't watch out you lose all ability to control the tablet, im quite tech savy, but replacing BIOS (or rather UEFI as these new beasts are supposed to be called) seems like a very last resort, that said, i am pretty much at that point now, so i guess your comment is no more then fair, and ill think about doing it today ;)

Hmm, strange that we got such diverse yet similar keyboards, im sorta thinking they could be the same though, but yours came with stickers attached to all keys to overcome the double key issue? (also because i read on some Chinese shop a review by a guy that had a similar problem, only he had two 8 keys haha, so its not like its uncommon either)

But what im wondering now, does yours have a PIPO logo and the status leds?

Oh and the strange button on the 2nd key to the left of the left arrow is actually pretty damn usefull, it toggles the touchpad on/off, which is pretty great when you start typing for more then a few minutes, where you (or at least me) often accidentally touch the touchpad, which 9 out of 10 times makes windows 'do stuff' (like open metro interface, lock the tablet, etc) while your just trying to type an email or whatever. What does the key you have in that position do for you?

And yea, would love some pics to compare yours to mine, so when you have a opportunity to make some, please do :D
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Pics of mine: