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[Elephone P7000] DonaJuanita:
Hi, thanks for the reply.

Well, in my previous chinese phone the Apple earpods (even though they fitted in the 3,5mm) they were not "compatible". The quality of the sound was the worst, its chinese earphones worked better than the Apple ones. That's why I am asking.

As for the phone comparison, I am quite confident they will not lie about the Gorilla Glass, the cpu and things like this. They may lie about the battery (which I know is also the case for Kingzone Z1, it was not 3500 mAh as advertised), but in total it should be as advertised I guess. 155 GBP is not little money, and all this waiting time for it (since December where the rumours started) are good indicators it will be trustworthy.

The Jiayu S3 has only 3000mAh battery and still runs Android 4.4. Unless they are willing to update it, it's not worth the 184 pounds.
[Elephone P7000] fernandogdl:
Well The reason why i recommend Jiayu over Elephone or Kingzone is becasue they have never lied in any of their advertisements,

All jiayu phones have excellent build quality, software is very well optimized, Camereas are great and software camera are well optimized to take great pictures (in the S3 they admitted they had an issue with the camera app, and they will update it) sound quality is great, Battery is Great, So in my opinion there are 2 Chinese brands that i will trust with my eyes closed and those are THL and Jiayu, they are really worth the extra price you pay for them.

Sadly Jiayu does not want to sell outside Asia apparently and they always use 3g Chinese bands, making them useless in American continent, THL is another great company with great quality devices, sadly they are very ugly devices.
[Elephone P7000] DonaJuanita:
I could agree with that, but you have to judge a phone overall and not from just few perspectives. This is price, quality and updates.

A chinese phone is a chinese phone, what if it is 80 pounds, what if it is 180 pounds. It won't last for a good 3-4 years as a flagship one (Samsung etc). My view on this is you buy it , it will last a year or two if you're lucky and then try another one. This gives you the chance to get updated with new features, save some money and get to have new devices every now and then. So in that case, I wouldn't consider the things you said. I want a fairly stable phone that will do its nice job for 1 year. If it can do it, I'm in.
[Elephone P7000] PJBXDA:
If it is £180 (???) and lasts a year (???) then you could have an S6 or S6 edge over 3 years at that price surely? The point of the this phone is meant to be that it has more/similar spec so will last longer than a cheap import, otherwise there are plenty of phones under £100?
[Elephone P7000] DonaJuanita:
It was a metaphor, not something I meant literally.

I personally have paid once £114 for one phone and then asked for replacement before the warranty expired (3 months for every phone). If the other phone I wanted was more expensive, I would just paid the difference. This is what I am gonna do this time too for the Elephone (if I choose this). I do understand that 114 + returning the old phone costs + paying the differences adds up to quite a lot of money, but still not half enough to buy a S6.

I still do not consider chinese phones are to last the same as a flagship phone. I got to test my friend's iPhone 4s that he owns for quite a couple of years now and it still performed greater than my just bought chinese phone (that cost 130 pounds at that time).
[Elephone P7000] ravian29:
same here with me they are doggy in my opinion because after applying coupon the price should not change they show the reduced price till checkout and when you checkout they change the price to full, will not be buying again from such site i was one of their loyal customers and was always with them but now its time to move on some other online Chinese retailer
[Elephone P7000] scoobydoo99:
It's not a discount code, you need to contact customer services after buying at full price and give them the code, they'll then issue a refund for the voucher value. That's how it worked for me with focalprice.
[Elephone P7000] ravian29:
no this time there was coupon code P7000 which had to use before buying, guys try EP7000 coupon code and pay $198 instead of $229
[Elephone P7000] scoobydoo99:
So this wasn't the elephone flash sale - because that's still every Wednesday and the price is still $159.

I've 2 on order, the first from gearbest and that was using the p7000 code for $197, but that was bought on the 13th may, the code worked OK at that time.

The second was bought through the elephone flash sale, and that's the one from focalprice where I got a $70 refund after buying for $229.
[Elephone P7000] reganlives:
Exactly that mate! I work in IT and I know what to look for and from what I can see its dodgy. For the price to show as reduced right until you click "pay now" is down right cheeky! I used paypal checkout to provide me with some more security. I've cancelled my order now though thankfully and its showing as cancelled in paypal also. I made sure that at every stage of the order the price was showing as correct etc and it was but only once I'd ordered did it change and they charged more.

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Oh also....they didn't have anything to say about the issue only saying they had limited quantity so not everyone could get it. What a load of crap! My order went through bang on the hour when the code became active lol
[Elephone P7000] DonaJuanita:
Saw some reviews on YouTube, the sound quality sucks :(

That is really a turn-off.
[Elephone P7000] crashsvg:
uhhhh....its not exactly rocket science that u cannot judge a phone quality from a youtube video simply because we dont know what camera they are using to replicate the sound..we have no idea of the camera audio compression or eq optimization being done to the recorded sound...

for feed bk like this its best to hear what 3 different reviewers say rather than just listening to a audio clip..

and for a price tag of around 225 us ...really cant go wrong...am growing tired of buying $600us phones and having to upgrade every other dam yr .. these phones are cheap,parts are cheap and they all have similar performance when tested ..sure the camera might not be that of a note 4 but its definitely on par with that of a s3 or s2 which 4 yrs ago they were the bomb..and since i have old pics from those old phones and still enjoy the quality am sure i would enjoy new pics with the same quality...
[Elephone P7000] skezza:
All phones have **** sound quality coming from those little speakers. What do you expect? Most cars have 6 inch speakers and even they suck balls. The bigger the cone, the better the frequency response. There are few phones with really good speaker quality, you just think they sound better probably because the speaker is mounted on the chassis giving the phone some resonance. Take it on face value, this is a budget phone with big specs, corners have to be cut, and all that.

Nobody forces you to buy a 600 dollar plus phone every (other) year man? The original price of the Nexus 4 was $350 and 2 years on it's still a ****ing great phone. I only sold mine because I got tired of not having SD support. No offence, but it sounds to me like you've been bitten by the 'big company' bug and are only now starting to get it. Not only that, you can pickup second hand bargains all over the place. I just picked up a Samsung S4 which still knocks out 31000 in Antutu for just £100. Take all the technology crammed in that little Samsung and you've got one hell of a ****ing mint phone, for what the price of a months worth of diesel?

Are they? Even if they are, labour isn't cheap and manufacturing phones is actually not as 'cheap' as you think. The S6 costs $290 to build, primarily in parts alone. Add in labour costs, quality control costs, accessories, boxes, distribution, and you realize that in fact, Samsung, Apple and other big companies don't make as much as you think on individual devices alone. It's the mass sales that ensure their continued domination at the top. The main reason why smaller manufacturers like Elephone are able to survive is because they have much lower operating costs. Simple.

That said, I would always recommend holding off buying one until the reviews have come back, because the amount of product research and design is significantly less than the big companies therefore design issues may lie. Not saying that hasn't happened with a big company before, but it's worth noting it.

Subjective I'm afraid. They all have similar performance but how do you measure such an opinion? Antutu, I suppose? Yet two devices with identical Antutu scores may perform differently. I've seen that. I've seen one device with an identical Antutu score, have a much slower overall UI and experience than the other. There's more to phones than just raw CPU power I'm afraid.

There's plenty of Chinese phones with very good cameras. Check out the Xiaomi Redmi 1S. The camera is an 8MP cam but it's an absolute pearl. It's all about playing the waiting game and checking reviews ;)
[Elephone P7000] DonaJuanita:
Your answer is invalid.

I checked 3 different reviews on sound quality on this phone and all 3 were crap. The reviewers also said it.

I'm not expecting an iPhone quality sound, but this is utter BS. A decent speaker is not too much to ask, at least a decent quality with earphones. I am getting tired with this plastic sound quality, no true bass, no nothing!

I'm buying a chinese phone every 3 months or so, and none of them gets a true sound quality. I don't care if it costs 229 USD or 0 USD, it's not a lot to ask for something so simple. My Nokia Lumia 625 which costs less than 100 euros had awesome sound quality! What about that?

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You are totally wrong.

As I said previously, I have a Nokia Lumia 625 which costs less than 100 euros and has an awesome sound quality. What about that?

Are they so cheap seriously? I'd rather have a ****ty camera rather than bad quality through my earphones.
[Elephone P7000] crashsvg:
I have a mate 7....phones beautiful.... I got a 32g version for 460 off eBay.. and I can confirm that this phone is not lagy and plays game quite nice... has similar untutu score as my note 3... when I listen the speakers test online comparing it to the note 4 the reviews said the speaker were crap.. install dsp manager n the sound quality for listening casual music was 85% similar (am a sound engineer, I would know)..... and yes the phone bug price has hit me.. lol... I live in the Caribbean so we are mostly exposed to big brand names n not Chinese phones...

all am saying is that most of these phones offers decent quality for a 3rd of the price and compromising some quality should not be a issue.... am sure no one expects to buy a Landover and expect it to out run a bugatti...

and parts are cheaper.... a screen n digitizer replacement for a mare 7 is around 80usd and note 4 is around 140usd...parts are cheaper!!!...
[Elephone P7000] skezza:
I have a Xiaomi with good sound quality. What's your point?
[Elephone P7000] DonaJuanita:
That Elephone does not have it! (Along with others that I had).

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All I'm saying is why is the sound quality the thing they always compromise?
[Elephone P7000] crashsvg:
as long as I could hear ma phone ring I couldn't be bothered...
[Elephone P7000] Graham Lee:
I've ordered two and latest from Gearbest is that they won't have stock until 10th June, maybe even 20th June.
[Elephone P7000] Sp1tfire:
When did you order them? Seems all the stores push the delivery time further and further away from the original date.
[Elephone P7000] quejo:
Ordered mine from ele store on aliexpress. Shipped today.
[Elephone P7000] matteo2:
I hope tomorrow they will ship my black p7000

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[Elephone P7000] Graham Lee:
Ordered on 20th May. First they said after 25th May. Now after 10th or maybe 20th June. Luckily I'm not in urgent need.
[Elephone P7000] neavissa:
Hi,

I went a few pages back to see if I can get some sample picture that were taken with the Elephone, but it sure looks like no one on here has it yet?! is that correct?! I also remember reading that the phone does not come with Google Play??? Is that even possible?!

thanks,

G
[Elephone P7000] Sp1tfire:
Check Elephone official forum, someone posted some sample pics there. They look decent for a cheap chinese phone. It's not unusual for chinese phones to come without Google Play, but it's not the case for Elephone. It has Google Play preinstalled.
[Elephone P7000] beetnubbin:
And I doubt you ever will find it. Cm for this phone will be very much an unofficial build on account of the lack of sources for mediatek soc.

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Isnt this the same "13MP"sensor used on the p6000 which in fact turned out to be 8 true MP interpolated to 13MP? It should also be noted that the used a different non sony sensor for some p6000's. I've got a p6000 which doesn't have a digital compass or USB OTG or a true 13MP camera as the specs claim.
[Elephone P7000] Sp1tfire:
No, theP6000 had indeed an 8 mpx camera with either Omnivision or Sony IMX219 sensors. According to their site, all P7000 phones have Sony IMX214 sensors. Guess we'll find out when more people get their hands on the phone if Elephone lies or not. Same Sony IMX214 is used in OnePlusOne and OPPO Find 7 phones.
[Elephone P7000] neavissa:
I will check it out. Good to hear that Google Play is installed. I just cant make up my mind if I should fix the broken screen on my Note 3 or get this one??? Did anyone compare the two side by side?

thanks,

G
[Elephone P7000] Sp1tfire:
I'd fix the screen if I were you. Even though specs-wise Elephone is ok, it probably won't offer a smooth experience like Note 3 when it comes to software. I'm really curious how Elephone will perform in daily use. I only bought it because it was a cheap option to replace my wife's Galaxy S4.
[Elephone P7000] neavissa:
I agree. Already started looking for new screens on eBay, ha ha. I appreciate the input...

thanks again,

G
[Elephone P7000] s7yler:
Sample pictures

https://plus.google.com/photos/100582382505207418108/albums/6156302275625518417

Here originals ZIPPED http://www.mediafire.com/download/d464ch1mjdwszyu/Elephone-P7000-Photo-Samples-by-s7yler.zip

Elephone P7000 Pioneer (Raw Video Camera Sample 2 FHD with Build 20150529)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n5oSX0Pmh8

More videos & GPS live test added in Post #1
[Elephone P7000] neavissa:
Excellent. Thank you.

G
[Elephone P7000] s7yler:
UPDATE:

In post #1 I have now also added a Youtube video showing the Lenovo VIBE UI 2.5 ROM on the Elephone P7000.

This ROM has 100% screen brightness without any issues! But the ROM is still just a beta rom.

But it shows us that the screen can be 100% bright! The ROM can be found now also on needrom.
[Elephone P7000] scottharris4:
this has NFC, right? And where would be the best place to buy this as an American?
[Elephone P7000] Sp1tfire:
No NFC. You can only order it online from asian shops.
[Elephone P7000] xkox:
Camera

I download all photos, but every photo have F2.8 ... the specification of say : Rear Camera	13.0 mega pixel / Auto Focus / Flash Light (SONY IMX214 f/2.0)

Why?

If i look at http://www.gizchina.com/2015/06/04/elephone-p7000-benchmarks-photos-and-impressions-after-a-few-days/

P7000 - F2.8 - 4160x3120 - bad colors, not much details

Xiaomi Mi Note - F2 - 4208x3120 good colors, more details

LeTV X600 - F2 - 4160x3120 mid colors, more details

Have sameone P7000 with F2.0 photo? or P7000 have only F2.8!?! Maybe even sensors IMX214 is fake, or just optic?

IMX214 can 4k or fullhd with 60p, have this P7000?

Old LG2 have F2.4, in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor ... there lens is just F2.4 ... www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/new_pro/april_2014/imx214_e.html

New sample # https://www.dropbox.com/s/rayjt986hua47ki/Elephone%20P7000%20Picture%20Samples.rar?dl=0

I ordered it yesterday and today this, hell, I'm really mad.

Xkox
[Elephone P7000] Emmago:
Heard the fingerprint scanner doesn't work with this rom.. What other bugs should I take note of? Secondly when is the final version gonna be released?
[Elephone P7000] KURT.Beadles:
Well, pictures from s7yler looks very nice as well as video. Don't see anything to complain about...
[Elephone P7000] Emmago:
Please how do I root this device?
[Elephone P7000] DonaJuanita:
So, since some people already have this device, can you report problems?

Or confirm the battery capacity (3450mAh, how long does it last), if 4G can be switched on both sims, how is the sound and things like that? Any major bugs?
[Elephone P7000] Taskman:
Just got the phone 2 days ago so haven't had time to actually test the battery that much yet.

No problems that I have noticed yet but a few annoying things.

1. 4G(LTE) can be used on both cards but you have to choose which one that you want it on. Can be changed in settings. The other card will operate over GSM (2G) when I set my first to 4G.

2. Speaker is only on the right side in the bottom not both and it is quite muffled.

3. Camera needs to be fixed in software because if it is a IMX214 it is lacking quite some optimization.

4. This is only personal opinion but still. Back button is on the wrong side and it has a menu button instead of "task switcher".

5. Google now/search can't be opened by long press on any button as it instead opens "search" which basically search things inside your phone.

6. It is a bit on the heavy side but apart form that it is good so far.

It doesn't have NFC or fast charge are only MT6592 supports it(fast charge) right now and no other MediaTek SOC.
[Elephone P7000] Sp1tfire:
That's the general opinion: sound and camera kinda suck. [MENTION=1308972]Taskman[/MENTION] Can you check the EXIF data on your pictures and confirm the aperture? It seems to have f/2.8 instead of f/2.0 they say on their official site.
[Elephone P7000] Emmago:
How do we root this device?
[Elephone P7000] Taskman:
Can't be done yet it seems. Neither Kingroot, Framarot or iroot works.

TWRP exists already but still missing root on it. Waiting for that as it would be really nice to have.

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F2.8 is what Exif data says. I tried both 4:3 and 16:9 at 13MP and it shows F2.8 when looking in Exif data.
[Elephone P7000] Sp1tfire:
Makes me wonder if they pulled the stunt of using an 8 mpx camera interpolated to 13 mpx. Shame they said f/2.0 aperture and turned out to be f/2.8.
[Elephone P7000] DonaJuanita:
After these things, I am really considering not buying it. :/

I do not care about the camera, I just need a basic picture quality when taking selfies/pictures, and I do not understand why people seem to care about the camera so much (I do not even know that f/2.0 or f/2.8 thing). I did read however that it has a red tint which seems really really bad (in the centre of the picture).

Is that true? In that case, I can accept that a bad camera is a factor.

Can you explain a bit further the back button thing, the menu switcher and the google thing? I didn't really get it.

Last question: using earphones, how is the music quality?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] z31k:
In wanam theme settings, which is the green is the picture? I changed just about everything in the theme settings and keep getting green... ?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pre4speed:
Check the toggle on or off color. Not sure where in wanam it is tho. Or even if that's the right name for it.
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[Xiaomi Mi 2] Torpin:
Battery life?

Hello, how is the battery life compared to mokee rom for example?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alealealeale:
Hi guys.

I'm a Note 4 user.

I love It, but using white background i find a little area in the low half screen not so white but white /pink.

Tilting the screen white is cold.

It's normally?

Erica Griffin in Note 4 Review spoke about this problem in her video.

Ps. Why "Reading Mode" is missing in Note 4?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inuit:
Same here. I have seen a lot of N4 - an they all had a pinkish tint on white backgrounds. One more, one less.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alealealeale:
:D

So this is not a problem?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inuit:
Of course this is a problem. But as I said before - this is the way nearly all the N4 screens I have seen look like. I fear you have to accept it.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 1980aksoy:
Try changing screen mode
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jonathan-H:
Adaptive or Cinema makes it bluer. But having half the screen colder like that isn't normal.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] rirawin:
I be using this guide to root my wifi model of the Note I be getting soon:

http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-note-10-1-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition/

I just wanted to ask, is this the best and up to date method?.

Also do I have to disable knox?, all I want really is to have access to the SD card so I can delete and write stuff there.

Thank you
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] rirawin:
anyone help please?.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Orion116:
Here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2975199
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] rirawin:
Anyone please?.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] TweakedSystems:
Not if you only want to root..I used towelroot then go to market and grab superSu
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Orion116:
Towel root doesn't work on the p600
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] rirawin:
Rooted it, didn't install busybox or twrp since I'm not going to use roms.

Is that OK?.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Orion116:
That is fine☺
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] rirawin:
Thanks, if I do a tablet factory reset ie erase all content would I lose root?.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Orion116:
Shouldnt.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] X3NOM:
Can I get the Android 4.4 KitKat update for US Cellular Samsung Galaxy S3 (Model: SCH-530U) ?

If its possible can somebody help me with the process?

Thank You. :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Razvan:
Sir,

Please wait until mods will move this thread to the device specific forum for more relevant answers.

Stand by

Good luck
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] sherpa:
I recently upgraded my 8525 to radio v1.38.00.10 from the factory installed 1.16. I am experiencing worse radio reception with 1.38. Anyone else?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pinkopalino:
Please read here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=297925

I know, the search button seems tricky, but it does work.

You can also search individual threads and set the search to display posts as results instead of whole threads. Just play around with it for a while and help keeping/making this forum a better place.

Should you have already read the aforementioned thread, I apologise for my redundant post.

Chris

Oh, I am running this radio since it came along and have had no issues with it.