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[General Topics] demlasjr:
I started using Telegram too, even if there are few people using it.

However, I'm using a modified Whatsapp with material design (it's not Whatsapp Plus) and I'm not banned. On other account I'm using the (defunct) OGWhatsapp which wasn't banned either.

But...on a third number I tested Whatsapp Plus I am banned.

Don't you guys feels like "Hey! What are we paying for ?". If we pay for a hosting and goes down, shouldn't they just pay us ? We paid to have a service which they stopped working for us.
[General Topics] nydmt:
**** whatsa'p
[General Topics] zige:
Watchout mate, read this: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...ers-until-they-switch-to-the-official-client/

I want to highlight to you one thing from there:

"Bans are occurring on at least one other 3rd-party WhatsApp client, WhatsAppMD, so it can likely be assumed that any usage of a 3rd-party WhatsApp client at the moment may get you temporarily banned, at least until workarounds are developed. According to the developer of WhatsAppMD, the fix may be as simple as changing the app signature to match the official app's. If that solution does work, you'll likely see it implemented shortly."
[General Topics] TrypelZ:
Sry i don't understand what you want to say.

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Best thing is that they want to involve ads im whatsapp ( they are going to test it with favebook messenger first )

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Thanks for the info m8
[General Topics] demlasjr:
Thanks mate! The whatsapp I mainly use is the official whatsapp, but only with the design modified. I'm wondering, are they checking for the signature or only for hardly modified version. Mine have no features, but only new design.

I also read that some people who are still using Whatsapp+ got the counter reset until they installed the official Whatsapp. Since then, the counter hasn't started.

Mine is at 20 hours, even if I'm using OGWhatsapp on the banned number.
[General Topics] zige:
Still if developers find a fix and Whatsapp find way to block that fix too i think not many developers want to play that cat & mouse game. So i think that Whatsapp is gonna win this game, unfortunately.
[General Topics] Army92:
I think what he is trying to say is that if he's deleting his whatsapp + will he be able to see his messages in the original whatsapp version.

My answer: Yes, whatsapp+ and whatsapp are using the same mechanism to encrypt and save your messages in a database on your sdcard so you can easily restore them when setting up whatsapp.
[General Topics] ROADKING17:
What's app please refund me my 99 cents.. Thank you
[General Topics] demlasjr:
I'm pretty sure they will win this game, but not the war. They will lose users. This is a great reason to users to leave the overrated Whatsapp. I always wanted to stop using it, but I couldn't due to friends.
[General Topics] TrypelZ:
Hopefully not.
[General Topics] zige:
I was using Whatsapp+ until i saw that news what i linked. Then installed official Whatsapp and i haven't been banned. Maybe i was lucky because one of my friend wasn't even she used Whatsapp+ 4 months ago...

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You are right mate. They will lose the war, i hope so. But i also understand that developers don't want to play cat & mouse long and they will give up... But until then i will encourage all developers!
[General Topics] demlasjr:
It looks like WhatsappMD just found a way already LOL. It just need the "extras"

https://plus.google.com/102613809832589771759/posts/i8hKYjLJnnS
[General Topics] hello00:
im pretty sure w+ will release a workaround
[General Topics] Exelios:
lol piece of **** company banning people instead of getting to work and making a decent app.

We have a PR stunt like the OnePlus who wanted girls to put hot pics, how did that end up for the company?

Piece of **** companies who's services I will never use in my life, OnePlus and Whatsapp.
[General Topics] ElDainosor:
it's happening (in a bad way)

It's happening the same with 3rd party facebook apps.

What facebook do to change this?

Changes their policies on the mobile API to make developers, who wants to create their way to use facebook, leave their work. Apps like klyph or Atrium stop their work, and now are dead, now in the market there's fast, spatio, and they have troubles too.

I hate this stuff about "using the stock app" when you have creative minds outside doing great stuff.

Do you want people use your stock app? Add something their want with 3rd party apps, and add it. No matter what it is, if you want people stays into your app, please, think to change "the bad thing" your app has.

The facebook app needs some hard optimization (a 100mb package between FB app and Messenger) and every update make it worst.

Whatsapp... well, just read all the comments on this thread and see it by yourself.

-Sorry for my bad english-
[General Topics] demlasjr:
I'm pretty sure it costed them more time to develop the ban system than would need to make a better "official" app. ****ty business...I expected that when Facebook bought them...
[General Topics] vawaid:
Im using wa+, if I got banned, I rather say good bye.
[General Topics] XavC:
What to think of this:

I have been a long time user of WA+. Been using it for well over 1.5 years I think. Recently I changed back to official WhatsApp due to the Oman themed 'new' and defunct versions of WhatsApp+. Did rafalense quit the project? I even got banned while running a legit WA copy, just because I used to run WA+. It's insane.
[General Topics] VictorotciV:
Telegram is waiting all of you...
[General Topics] ROADKING17:
Telegram s**ks
[General Topics] Zevin64:
I haven't been banned....yet.

I live in the Caribbean and everyone uses WhatsApp (ppl are just now getting off blackberry smh) so switching to something else isn't an option. Oh well.
[General Topics] VictorotciV:
Tell me three disadvantages of Telegram compared to WhatsApp (regardless the user base).

In Telegram you can create your own client without risk of banning, it's cloud-based (so you never lose your messages and it's multiplatform), it's faster, you can send documents of any type (up to 1 GB per file), you can be in a group with up to 200 members or talk with someone without sharing your number to all of them, and a long etcetera.

So why it s**ks?

PS: I feel like a Telegram commercial LOL
[General Topics] ink718:
Sorry i missed it. I dont really use whatsapp but what was special about whatsapp plus?
[General Topics] ROADKING17:
Can you create your own theme with telegram? Or install a theme? Emojis on there are a few nothing like what's app plus.. To me telegram seems like a normal messaging app.
[General Topics] zige:
I has used rafalense version all the time until today because of what Whatsapp did so he/she isn't quited the project.

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I appreciate your opinion but it's better if you also tell us why it sucks? Everyone has right to own opinion but if you just throw words like this it don't give good picture of you. Just tell to community why you think that Telegram sucks?
[General Topics] ROADKING17:
Scroll up I just explained how I felt and reasons being
[General Topics] zige:
Can you create your own theme with official Whatsapp? Or install a theme? Also Telegram has same emojis like Whatsapp have. Telegram is option to official Whatsapp. Anybody hasn't said that Telegram is better than Whatsapp+ and all the talk what here has been is that "Telegram is better than official Whatsapp" which is right.
[General Topics] VictorotciV:
Those are features of WhatsApp Plus, not WhatsApp's. But if you are a developer, you can make your own app using the open API and code of Telegram and add all the things you want (you can see some examples such as Telegram X with dark themes or Telegram+ in Google Play).

OK, in this sense is not as advanced as WhatsApp Plus, but that doesn't mean it s**ks...
[General Topics] ROADKING17:
Sucks to me when I have to revert to something lower like going from a Mercedes to a Toyota.. This thread is about what's app plus and not what's app
[General Topics] VictorotciV:
I'm sorry, we have very different perspectives and no one will change the other's opinion. When I buy a car I'm looking for more than a beautiful bodywork (themes). Call me when you can carry five people in your customized coupé (200 members group) or attach a trailer (send PDF or APK files). End of the conversation, I'm leaving.
[General Topics] Sturdy_99:
Waiting for them to ban me.:p
[General Topics] axlslash_gnr:
Banned, really weird of whatsapp to ban without prior notice. Really sucks.
[General Topics] henriluiz:
banned by whatsapp+ use too, start using telegram right now :p
[General Topics] karthi1:
I'm still Using whatsapp+ without ban ... :cool:

I must be very lucky ?
[General Topics] jeevan_500:
waiting for the whatsapp+ to find a workaround to bypass this ban :p
[General Topics] Triplo:
Banned me too (12am india),i used whatsapp+ just the day before and uninstalled it because wanted to install an updated version,then i installed whatsapp (stock) again same day.Then yesterday got banned while using then stock Whatsapp.Really sucks.:rolleyes:

Well,who needs whatsapp ,better just spend the day with friends than chatting with 'em on Whatsapp. :p
[General Topics] hello00:
just wait for itt

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just wait for it
[General Topics] crimsonedge03:
Banned. Tried to escape it by installing official WhatsApp but I was too late. Thankfully the counter had already reach 13 hrs so I only have to wait for half a day.
[General Topics] Trupal Patel:
Waiting 13hrs to see what they can do more?

Banning for more 24 hrs?

Will wait till this ends..but cirtainly will not install normal whatsapp ...:cool:

Sent from my GT-S5360
[General Topics] anazhd:
Copied /Whatsapp folder from my old phone backup and inside, there's a folder called PLUS (which I don't think will affect anything), dated more than a year ago. Just a folder. Still got banned. I'm not running any modified whatsapp apk since late 2013. Speaking about it, since whatsapp 'read' that specific folder, isn't that privacy breach? such detection, very modified.

maybe if I rename one of the folder inside /Whatsapp/ , let say, My Neighbor Naked Collection PLUS, will I got banned in the future too?

just a folder and there's nothing modified on my whatsapp. nothing. zero. not whining, just wondering and sharing this bulls*** false alarm on my case. to make it worse, they reply the same automated email to me although I asked them to check any log on their end, or anything they got to prove I'm using a modified whatsapp.

13 hours to go. no big deal, except for my work related whatsapp group. they don't care about our priority right?
[General Topics] Moopow:
12 hrs for me....

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After reading this thread I have found out about telegram.... I have installed it and it seems cool so far... I only have 3 friends on it.... I would definitely switch to it if more people came on board and join the protest of abandoning WhatsApp
[General Topics] vishnuushankar:
Telegram is much better than this thing but less users mean less fun. Telegram should promote them self with some ads on medias :)
[General Topics] Moopow:
Just like what you all have said it's disgusting how they ban us without any warning....

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Yup... I agree... Especially with what is happening now

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I think it will be difficult to persuade others to switch who have been using the official WhatsApp
[General Topics] kibmikey1:
Pretty sure the team already knows people will try for a workaround. I think there's an ulterior motive at hand here...
[General Topics] fuarkgl3:
I will wait for whatsapp+ to bypass this ****
[General Topics] msohail_7:
Im using Whatsapp+ and its working fine but my bro's WA+ is banned...?
[General Topics] Borwe:
It's facebook. Becoming ****ty like Apple products, and blocked as hell like Microsoft products. I see facebook deing soon.
[General Topics] mandarjoshiin:
+1 :D
[General Topics] karthi1:
I'm still waiting :-/
[General Topics] Pomeon:
Ads

I also just read on the news that Facebook is considering adding advertisements to WhatsApp.

Seems like they're digging their own grave..
[General Topics] sohebq:
M still surviving :P
[General Topics] kanivier:
I ain't banned yet, so am gonna uninstall WA+ and wait for the fix
[General Topics] Trupal Patel:
:thumbup:

So they are reading-detecting

/whatsapp/PLUS folder...

Hope someone working on fix reading this...

And yeah thats rediculous that you don't use whatsapp+ still getting banned.

Sent from galaxy y GT-S5360
[General Topics] Guido83:
I am using WA+ for years and I am not banned yet
[General Topics] androidmud:
how to uban

i think it will help u

www(DOT)apknexus(SPACE) .com/2015/01/how-to-unblock-whatsapp-plus-ofiicially.html
[General Topics] royest:
I'm not banned yet..i removed plus folder and i'm waiting to see if i will be banned
[General Topics] Svid:
I got banned for using the original WhatsApp apk with meterial style.

Well 12 hrs till cooldown ends
[General Topics] quorn23:
And the point is? We all used a third party app which is against the terms of service. It's like complaining to a car dealership that you can't go skiing with your car. :silly:
[General Topics] Ninja_Gundam:
Reporting from Italy, still on , no ban for now ^_^;

Btw, plenty of users always same chitchat blabla about useless things... wth care about material design , round avatars (ugly for me) ecc.!?!?!? >_<

I switched on whatsapp+ coz if u have amoled phone, u can set all dark themed ecc. and save battery! And if u are a little blind u can customize colors for high contrast ecc.,

Plus a lot of nice feature like see from userlist when contacts are online ecc. (things that was avaible on icq in 90s... that even now skype destroied on awful mobile client... -_-)

If the bigguys of whatsapp can do that in original version..no need to use modded apk , but noo hell, follow the flow of kids liking material design before do something good....blah

Chooo
[General Topics] shaggydiamond:
What design are you using?
[General Topics] demlasjr:
First I started playing myself with Whatsapp. Now, I started using WhatsappMD since I don't have enough time.

BTW people, go to Play Store and rate Whatsapp 1 ?. That's all they deserve. Make them suffer a bit. We can bring to 3 stars the rate

Sent from my GT-I9505 32GB
[General Topics] RealFreddyBananas:
Same here, though I'm using WhatsappMD, but it seems they've started banning those users as well...
[General Topics] Fishawy:
This has been just posted by the developers. I believe this is the end of WhatsApp+.

https://plus.google.com/+MounibAlRifai/posts/99mmV7RA7ne

Shame.
[General Topics] gork1975:
It seems that WhatsApp plus is going down forever.

Got this Info on g+
[General Topics] sumeetchopra89:
whatsapp

thanks for this information :)
[General Topics] alexandruvlad:
Shame on the the official app developers for this push&shove decision.

Hopefully losing around 5% of their user-base (migrating to Telegram for example) will prove a point. If they care at all.....
[General Topics] Dimitris Dinozzo:
here I am :silly:
[General Topics] xpc21:
It's funny to think, ironic even in present day in an open system like android has always been, people have this kind of attitude, and not because of causing problems, but by their incompetence. If this was not a desperate attitude, then I would say that dictator because if you say no to something which is open source, I think your argument is over. We live in a society and world where everything is actually created, copied, exemplified and improved, if you can not live with such factors do not go trying to be innovative and try to be creative, much less try to ban those who could be better than you as this only certify their lack of evolution. Shame this situation.
[General Topics] ekksman:
I don't think I've ever read an instruction manual, terms of service and terms of conditions before, maybe the odd occassion here or there, a simple warning would have been nice, I'm only annoyed because of my work and family group
[General Topics] Trupal Patel:
Make your rating one star on play...

And move on to other options..

I think its a legal procedure and even if it's possible to take whatsapp+ back it would take more days then we can think...

Its wierd but i checked it on titanium backup app...i have a backup previously but now whatsapp backup is also missing with this ban...

NOTE: And 1star on thier face for banning devs of whatsapp plus for something they can't include or add in their app...it's your inability that whatsapp plus is famous for themes and other mods...

We'll use what we like to use they shouldn't tell us...
[General Topics] the_scotsman:
I find all this rage quite hilarious. The 3rd party apps are in violation of the Whatsapp ToS. You're luck to have gotten away with it this long.

When XDA was issued with a cease & desist, surely this was a hint that they were serious about it.

Giving them a 1 star on Play isn't going to do anything whatsoever. Ratings are onyl good for new upcoming apps, to let others know what it's like. But everyone already knows what Whatsapp is like :)
[General Topics] luqman98:
Thank you very much..... now I'm safe from being banned by switching to the normal Whatsapp. Maybe I'll moving to the Telegram in near future.

Why I use Whatsapp+? :

- I can send pictures & videos in full size/quality.

- Themes/UI customization

P/S: You might want to delete "PLUS" folder from the Whatsapp folder .

Sent from my Xperia E1 dual

1. Love doesn't need any reason.

2. Wanna speed up 3G (not 4G LTE)?

Here it is:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2586876

3. Press the thanks button if I really helped/assisted you.
[General Topics] sweetdreamz338:
So there is still time to unban aprox 7 hours but the Q is all our chat and data will be there.

I also moved the Plus folder out side whatsapp.

Fingers crosses for the chat history.
[General Topics] Truepeace:
Still not banned

Still using whatsapp plus without any ban :D
[General Topics] Ninja_Gundam:
Ban a modded apk can be ok..but search in my phone and control if i have a determinated folder like PLUS i think it's a bit illegal....

Btw, installed original client... OMG what a awful graphics\color.. just want to puke :( even telegram have nicer colors :(

I put 1 star review and ask to at least have a dark theme to choose, please do the same, better than nothing.

Chooo
[General Topics] the_scotsman:
Lol it's not illegal. It's one of the permissions you agree to when you install it. Permission to read the contents of your sd cards and installed apps.
[General Topics] luqman98:
Indeed.

Sent from my Xperia E1 dual

1. Love doesn't need any reason.

2. Wanna speed up 3G (not 4G LTE)?

Here it is:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2586876

3. Press the thanks button if I really helped/assisted you.
[General Topics] shaggydiamond:
I think I dodged a bullet here. In my country (holland) everyone uses WhatsApp, could not really afford a ban. Switched to stock WhatsApp and removed the PLUS folder outside of the WhatsApp folder.

I highly recommend using WhatsAppX if you use Xposed and stock WhatsApp.

I wish people would just switch to telegram or other apps. Secretly wishing Facebook would incorporate ads so people would migrate to telegram or other apps.

It's a sad day for WhatsApp plus users:rolleyes:
[General Topics] Marília de Oliveira:
I think this a slutty with users they did it because it was losing pro whatshap plus + normal and whatshap horrible, ugly and creativity beyond the bugs they never tidy there now invent to put link in the app will get worse than it already is. .. I will quit using the whatshap'm using telegran that is much better than the beautiful whatshap and lightweight and is being improved gradually! I was the refalense would create a better application that whatshap and without bureaucracy where everyone can make their subjects your changes.
[General Topics] demo84:
Let's promote Telegram!!! Use this pic on your whatApp profile picture when they unlock you!!
[General Topics] solidsatras:
Why is everyone promoting Telegram over TextSecure? Last time I searched for an alternative (around March 2014 I think) Telegram had a bad cryptography and was a mere clone of WA.

https://missingm.co/2014/02/fightin...of-mobile-cross-platform-encrypted-messaging/

http://www.cryptofails.com/post/70546720222/telegrams-cryptanalysis-contest

I'm using TextSecure ever since and the only complain would be the still missing iOS-version.

Was there a new development in this area?

Sent from my SlimKat powered N10
[General Topics] TrypelZ:
This does not do **** cause the ban is serversided from them. The only thing is that your phone freezes after giving root acces. Also AVG PRO gave a big warning so i uninstalled it.
[General Topics] luqman98:
Old story.....?

Sent from my Xperia E1 dual

1. Love doesn't need any reason.

2. Wanna speed up 3G (not 4G LTE)?

Here it is:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2586876

3. Press the thanks button if I really helped/assisted you.
[General Topics] Truepeace:
The WhatsappMD dev said that Whatsapp are checking the app signature to see if it matches their signature, so changing the app signature to match the official app's is a suggested fix. However, some users were banned even after trying Whatsapp plus for a day a long time ago and then switched to the official app. Some of them suggested removing the Plus folder from inside Whatsapp's folder. I'm clueless but it is still working on my device :D
[General Topics] Ninja_Gundam:
Using now this :

xposed/modules/theme-engine-theme

at least to change bubbles color of messages... -_-

And Holo Themer xposed module too to put black contactlist ecc.

what a mess btw...

Chooo
[General Topics] ROADKING17:
Don't know why they banned it after all this time it's not like they weren't getting their yearly subscription fees. Are they upset that someone took their app and made it better? Or is it like with any other app once it becomes real popular they wanna screw it up and piss people off
[General Topics] TrypelZ:
They should just hire the whatsapp + devs and everyone would be happy.
[General Topics] Moopow:
I agree ?
[General Topics] DJ AJ:
I'm going to keep using whatsapp plus and keep getting banned :D
[General Topics] Trupal Patel:
Edit : I know privacy issues and server may be selling data to third party..

But

i don't send nuclear launch codes or Bank Accont password over whatsapp+.

And also some people are silly to use and announce (i.e. Some Bloggers) whatsapp plus as next future version of whatsapp and "BGR India" has also an article on this issue...

They annoyed whatsapp authorites i think...
[General Topics] sohebq:
2nd ban will be permanent

Sent from Galaxy Note 3 (The beauty & beast)
[General Topics] aHanSolo:
Hmm it appears that the only fix seems to be to change your phone number since it is what the ban seems to target (source) any one else has a better one?
[General Topics] Tobi@s:
I'm still using WA+ and Im not banned yet. Weird.
[General Topics] gabrielfrias:
for those who don't care about MD and care only for the features provided by WA+, there are two mods with some good features I use and still working. They are OGWhatsapp and ENWhatsapp. Both are based in old .432 version, but as long as they work and give me the possibility to hide blue ticks and my status, it's fine!

At Rahil twitter, he published a few hours ago a statement that annouces WA+ death. You can seach at google. I believe it will be reverted and someone will find a solution. Let's wait.

Sorry for my English, I'm brazilian.
[General Topics] TrypelZ:
I think the 24hour ban is just the first stage. There will be more i guess.