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[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
In Canada, Rogers has posted a update schedule and it doesn't look good for the Note 4. It had a release date of TBD. This could be because Samsung refuses to give Rogers an answer about the Note 4 update or Samsung updated them to let them know they are not planning on updating the Note 4 for awhile. There is a possibility that Rogers already has the update and needs to test it, but since none of the other Carriers have released an update I highly doubt that will be the case.

Source: Rogers
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
I really think we're looking at a late March or April release.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jonahtriangle:
It also says the same thing for the s5. Other varients of s5 have it already. Not sure about Canada but it should drop soon for and international varient.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ciscostud:
Can we just flash a tmobile rom?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
If it's just Rogers holding the update and not Samsung, then in theory yes. No guarantee it will work or that the device will work properly and it will probably take a kernel modification. However if it's just Rogers holding the update then the other Carriers would have released as well. Example, if Bell releases LP then we can just flash that instead since it is the same device model.

Incorrect, It says "Coming Soon!"

Please check again.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jonahtriangle:
You're right I was looking at the s5 active.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
;):cool:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Toss3:
That's what I'm hoping for as that would probably mean that we would get the same optimized touchwiz version of the S6 (and with some luck android 5.0.3/5..1).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] megatooth:
Can somebody translate this?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Braxos:
Note 4, lollipop upgrade S5 LTE- A product is expected, but since mid-February

That was the red part.

Love translators

Rest of the text

Good evening. Your Cyber ​​Samsung service center personnel. We thank you for using the Samsung product. 일정에대한부분은공지된내용이없어정확한안내가어려운점양해말씀드립니다. You gave me your questions, contact your hearts sorry that did not receive a satisfactory answer
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
I am really pissed off now, Samsung can't deliver any major update properly to their newest device...and when they do it's not polished enough.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
Some new good phones like the S6 and M9 out in the next month. Might be time for a trade in of the N4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
Nah, after I switched from the note 3 to the s5 i hated it especially because there was no pen xD.Note 4 is a good phone but the things Samsung lacks is updating their newest handset first...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
To not update their current flagship phone first is strange. It would seem to suggest they're having problems with Lp on it. The N4 has held its value well though and with the S810 phones out next month, I'm tempted.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
The question is why are they having problems with it, and no problems with the S4 with snapdragon 600 which is somewhat outdated....
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Aijazji:
Problem ? Its Due To Gear Vr..

Sent from my SM-N910G
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Drizzy xS:
Once again... No, no it is not John carmack the owner of occulus himself denied this
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
As [MENTION=4585222]Drizzy xS[/MENTION] said...Samsung could have at least said what's about about the delay.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
If note 4 wont get the update this week too it ll probably wont get it till s6 release and get the new tw. It cant be just a problem with it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Drizzy xS:
It's just Samsung I just think they're a **** company and they don't particularly care about their note 4 owners, cause as I've said before if they really cared and worked to the potential that they are actually getting paid for they could've got this update out weeks ago, they just don't care they just wanna sell more phones. Welcome to capitalism
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Just no. If they just wanted to sell new phones they wouldnt be updating s4 and note 3 like last years they did for old phones. There must be another thing.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
I'd agree with this, I don't think they'd update the N3 and S4 without trying to do their flagship N4 first, it makes no commercial sense . Also, remember the Lollipop "adverts" when the N4 first came out? I think Samsung have wanted to update it early but have ran into problems.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Drizzy xS:
But why won't they provide information on why their latest phone has been delayed? You go on their twitter and all their responses to people are is like oh we can't reveal our secrets yet, they're taking the piss out of you

Exhibit A:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
cuz that could be just like what i said they can give new tw for note 4. And if they wont realese it this week ill be sure they are working on something different than other phones. Cuz exynos s-lte variant already on 5.0.1 so it should be ready for other exynos variants too.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
It would be like saying "go and buy another phone because we're having trouble putting Lollipop on our flagship device". They're putting out the "everything's fine" story and hoping people still buy the N4 even though it might not be updated for another month or 2.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ce:
I think that new hardware specs and a new TW are the main reasons to let you buy the Note 5 in a few months. I don't think there will be any difference between LP TW on, for example, the S5 and LP TW for the Note 4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Soryuu:
On that Korean site which people have been referring to (and yes we still don't know whether it's trustworthy or not) the user that's been providing everyone with "info" about Lollipop suggests that Lollipop is being delayed not because of Gear VR but because they're ironing out some pretty major bugs...

http://www.matcl.com/?m=bbs&bid=usermoim&uid=245072&노트4롤리팝이늦어지는이유..

Spoiler content hidden.

Sent from my Note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
whatever they put in s6 probably none of the note 4 users will change to s6.

---------- Post added at 09:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:17 PM ----------

well like i said s-lte variant already running on 5.0.1 and there could be bugs ofc i dont know. im not happy what they give for note 3 too. but whatever if there isnt any bug makes phone unusable samsung would probably release it for 1 country atleast like they always do.

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[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
I really don't think they will give us the new touchwiz of the S6,(if it even has a new design), also the note 4 S-LTE variant is running lollipop which indicates that they ain't changing and giving us a new design, right?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Skizzy034:
Willing to bet the ONLY reason it's been delayed is because they want to boost sales to the S6. The Note devices have more features than the S phones so maybe they're hoping that once the S6 and Edge come out with Lollipop in tow, that they can steal a few sales from current Note 4 owners who desperately want the upgrade for some reason.

This is how corporations work. It's never about the consumer. It's always about their bottom line.

Just my two cents on the matter..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] egren58:
Have you ever walked into the marketing field cuz what you said makes no sense S line and note are two different lines aimed for two different consumers, why would samsung WANT to steal sells from its most expensive flagship for a much less revenue?.. would you rather make 2 dollars or 5 dollars?...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Skizzy034:
I'm saying to boost sales of its upcoming S6 for people who don't want to wait for the note to get LP. Then when it does maybe they go back and buy the phone again?

A lot of people want the latest and greatest and aren't just loyal to one brand. I've gone from the S line to Notes, HTC devices, LG and back to Samsung. There are some who care about certain features and some who want the latest updates right away. Need proof of that? Here is this thread.

I thought what I said made sense. Sorry if you didn't think so. I do agree tho that "steal" wasn't the right word to use. "Gain" maybe.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] 2dorr:
For sure Lollipop is not late so Samsung can launch S6. Let's not forget that the launch moment and the sell moment are separated by 2 months. And for sure we are not getting Lollipop in June after S6 sales already begun. Note 4 might get the new touchwiz, with the next Android version. S4 and Note 3 got touchwiz version from S5, with Lollipop.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
I hope you are right about the note 4 getting the new touchwiz from the S6 but in a later update.They won't be probably delaying the update until the S6 is released, hopefully we'll receive it by the end of this month haha...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] willcor:
hi all ,

i tend to agree with Skizzy034 view that to me it seems more of a "financial " gain/ motivation , behind the delay .!!

my viewpoint is that if you look at this video of Note 4 running Lollipop v5.0 ( +- 2 months back ..3 dec 2014 )

posted by Samsmobile ( who has a leaked Rom )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2DW6YKhLxY

Lollipop seems to be running quite smoothly ?( the bit i can see in video android v 5.0 any ways and seems useable ? )

Now to my "logic " If you got "issues /bugs " to fix say Lollipop v5.01..........etc why not just release v5.0 ,to keep customers overall happy ,nevermind a few bugs ?

( ..I have a few other Samsung devices and they have each "some" bug or something )

(one reason /positive, for me to install Lollipop , i then can enable "RAW " option / features in camera apps etc .)

So i personnally feel this whole delay is more of an financial /motivation issue. ??..(same as Skizzy034 post above , viewpoint )

Yes ,i believe there will be "some " bugs at present ,but not so serious ?

Bottomline, if it was serious why does Samsung not issue a statement .clearifying delay ?

No , instead i see post that Samsung is quoted as saying" ...soon ...next week... etc etc ? "

Plse note, above is only my viewpoint how i read matters at moment ( who know better ...?)

good luck to all
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Not really very early alpha cm12 for i9300 was running good too. You cant understand that by a short video. What about battery can die after 30 min screen time? You cant just say its usable. If it doesnt giving random reboots or crashes it doesnt make it a usable rom. What about heat , battery, wierd memory leaks etc.

If samsung think if they dont update note 4 and people gonna say " hey lets go and buy s6 for lollipop" its most retarded thing i ve ever heard. They did it once with s3 and letting it stay on a very bad 4.3 update. Since then they are loosing market share. If you cant make your old customers happy you cant make them buy a newer samsung all they gonna do is" **** samsung ill buy htc or nexus" . Samsung couldnt really make customer loyalty sales of s4-s5 showed that. Im sure they understood it too so they gave fast and decent lollipop updates for note 3 and s4 . Its about satisfaction if you are happy with old device you can consider buying a newer one if you arent happy with it why would you buy another 1 pretty much all companies giving same devices with different design.

I think samsung will give a good update for note 4 and hope it will be. Its the 1st device im happy with touchwiz performance as an old nexus user.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] 2dorr:
Also Lollipop has issues. My wife has a Moto G with stock 5.0.2 and it has superb battery and no issues so far. Nexus 7 2013 also with 5.0.2, still has the memory problem and need a reboot to be usable again. I hope Lollipop for Note 4 will be stable.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] willcor:
hi ,

plse, read my post ..again.

I never said anything/ or implying that Samsung in not going to update etc .?

i only agreed with Skizzt034 that it seems to me its a "financial " gain/ motivation , behind the delay .!!

also i never said anything about S6 etc ......?

also nowhere in relevant video or later post here or on Youtube, by Samsmobile did i read about Vers5.0 been very buggy or your speculations( i quote ) ....What about battery can die after 30 min screen time........................................."

Fact is Lollilop v5.0 for Note 4 was leaked over 2 mths ago and nothing yet ?

also what update did the S5 recently get ..Lollipop v5.0 ?

or what update did Note 3 get ..Lolipop v5.0 .................

was relevant updates on these devices so bad ?

bottom line

believe what you" believe in" and thanks for your input !

good luck
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
Jesus, your way of writing posts is really unpleasant.

On Topic

Maybe our wait for Lollipop pays out.Totally agree with you [MENTION=400134]2dorr[/MENTION]
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Same goes for delay too. Its even worse that thinking delay will make people buy newer device too. Yes its still retarded if samsung thinks that. And i feel sorry for people who buy devices for update.

On my old note 3 i have lollipop i dont think its better than kitkat. And using insane ram on idle 2.3gb seriously? Its even buggy on nexus devices too. None of the google roms still fixed memory leak problem.

And since its not released for all countries there must be something right? Korean users reportig problems too. And i didnt say there is a bug all i said there could be you cant just understand it from a short video.

Whatever think whatever you want.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sPEADy:
Samsung please give these people update otherwise they start tearing their clothes as well from others.

It's the biggest conspiracy at the moment of this world "why" Samsung not updating Note 4 although none of us has any valid information about this "why". Please don't pollute the thread with ideas come up with some information that is helpful for some other users rather arguing with one an other like I said this you understood that. Live in peace and be polite to each other lame arguments won't make the situation better. Let's clear things up and wait patiently for Samsung to reveal the secret behind the late update for our beloved device. At the end these are just my thoughts and are not pretended to be targeting someone in special.

Good day all and have a nice Sunday.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Drizzy xS:
According to Samsung lollipop is exclusive to the s5, no delay just only s5 is getting it right now, idek if lollipop is out for the s5 in the UK
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jonahtriangle:
I love coming hear fo the Entertainment. Not that I will get any real information about lollipop. Its like going to a syche ward. This is where all the coo koo clocks are.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
Wow, that sounds interesting.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] egren58:
Makes no since why this would be financial gain.. if your a consumer and Wanting the lates greatest thing... first thing you would think to do is research samsungs history on update, and this as a reference is not good. Now you tell me if you want the latest in android and you hear that after an android version is released a manafucture takes 6 months to realease its version of android... Now idk but how is that encouraging to buy their devices?.. a perfect example.. im sure many people here thought lollipop would be here sooner and that if they knew it would take this long thy would maybe gone with the nexus or another device.. again you have to understand not alot of devices have officially release lollipop. So its just not samsung. BUT since samsung its a bigger sales company its targeted alot more than other companies like LG,Moto,etc.... which is completely normal.. due to its popularity.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jura55:
WTF? How can be Lollipop exclusive for S5 when there is Lollipop for Note 3 and S4 (and many other devices from other brands)? That stu..pid guy should be fired (with Samsung Note4 Lollipop manager).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
Sounds like he's bored, working on a Sunday and can't be bothered giving a "proper" reply.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Drizzy xS:
That's exactly what I thought my exact tweet was saying why have other devices had lollipop before note 4 and I gave examples such as note 3 s5 s4 but just that was his reply that apparently it's exclusive to s5
[Galaxy Note 4 General] isaakmg:
One user of htcmania have 5.0.1 Sm910F with rom stock Nethertland......

http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=912599

The problem is....how extract the ota?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
Here is it a how to extract it, question if the guys wants to do it

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2387941
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Drizzy xS:
It just all seems too shady, why does one person in the world have lollipop but not anyone else?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
Here is a video of that guy on Lollipop [MENTION=4585222]Drizzy xS[/MENTION]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqXAUV3UHTs&feature=youtu.be
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Drizzy xS:
Hmph well you've made a believer out of me, now I guess we just have to hope he'll share it
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
I have a feeling that he ain't sharing anything hahahahaha...let's hope I am wrong

EDIT

Just read on that Spanish forum that people are asking for a Lollipop firmware dump but the guy who got Lollipop ain't answering...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Drizzy xS:
I just wonder though if this means it's beginning to roll out this week, and that Netherlands is the first country to get it? I'm sure it's been like that on the note 3 before
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
Well, that would be great.I'll keep an eye out on that forum and update here if anything interesting pops up.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mythos234:
I sent him a PM with instructions on how to convert it to a flashable zip and added loads of love into the message ;)

We had a Sammy Manager on a survey here who confirmed the Update in beginning of February while leaks suggested still end of January. And I believe some Samsung Twitter account answered someone that it might start next week. Add this guy in and mix it all together and next week looks like a safe bet. At least to me :D

Too bad that Xposed still won't work on Lollipop, it will break half my phone :/
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Drizzy xS:
That sounds good then yeah honestly I think it might come this week then, and honestly I thought I'd miss xposed loads but I have been using cm 12 lately and I haven't really missed xposed all that much the only thing I really missed was greenify and donation package.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
Nice, let's hope he answers :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mythos234:
I also use the XSecureStorage module to keep the Privat e Mode running despite the triggered Knox, and Finger Lock to secure apps with the fingerprint scanner. When it comes to privacy protection , the Note 4 scores big time. xposed will be dearly missed :(
[Galaxy Note 4 General] megatooth:
Google knows nothing about N910FXXU1BOAF. :(
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
There is a debate going on that forum whether that Lollipop update is true or not...judging from the video he posted it looks real.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] megatooth:
Installed stock Dutch firmware (PHN) via Odin, Kies doesn't give me any update...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
A guy from the Spanish forum said that it's not only the Dutch firmware you need but I'm quoting the guy from the forum
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mythos234:
I don't know. Hmm, don't Samsung firmwares end with a number?

BOAF sounds more like a test-build.. Never seen anything like it. Which would lead to the question how on earth he was able to get this via Kies...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ORCA999:
The CSC need to be changed too, I got a 3 branded but using NEE instead, but not getting either NEE or HTS ota or through kies.

Skickat från min SM-N910F via Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
It seems as it is a test firmware that he got because of his IMEI which is why he got the update via Kies in the first place...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
We think you need the PHN serial number to get the lollipop u date nothing to do with Csc. If anyone with a PHN serial number can try kies firmware upgrade and let us know it would be appreciated
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
The problem is that they guy who got the ROM isn't going to make a flashable zip out of it...he isn't even active on the forum since he posted the pic and video...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ce:
PHN serial but no update available in Kies.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
Thanks for checking. Looks like it's just the one guy who has it or he made it up then
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sephkateno:
He ain't a bro...:silly: but something tells me that he isn't the only one with the test build out there...maybe someone with the build will feel like sharing in the next days..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
I'd say he is the only one with the update, which he could have shared...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mythos234:
Impossible. He shared a screenshot from his Kies, a video with all the animations and elements from Sammobiles preview, an authentic looking modem and version etc. He either dedicated his life to making hoaxes or he is one of few people who started receiving updates.

And his Knox Status is 0x0, so he isn't on a custom rom and unrooted. Please do enlighten me how to modifiy the SystemUI this extensively without root ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
What's impossible about him being the only one to have it? My comment was about the serial number not working.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] megatooth:
He replied in the youtube video...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ashatar:
That English though.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mythos234:
I meant that it's unlikely that he made it up. Entirely possible that a few people got an update but haven't noticed what they've got. Not everyone is interested in Smartphone software and will tell the entire world about an update. I guess that Monday will bring some clarity.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Soryuu:
It's consistent with the leaked Edge build (BOA2) but since it ends with a letter it's more likely an earlier test build of lollipop, yeah

Korean site's suggesting the most upsated build in progress is BOB3

Sent from my Note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] galaxynote2:
Seems like Next week will be decisive. Hoping that it will not be delayed anymore (touching wood)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jinosong:
I think we're going crazy over the update because we don't have it yet. From the reviews, Lollipop seems mediocre at best. There seems to be quirks about it that people aren't happy about. Also, it's going to break Xposed.

I foresee this update being a total disappointment. I've seen it whenKitKat was released by Samsung and it took multiple builds to address those funny bugs. Whenever a massive update comes, people go apesht because it doesn't function properly and there's a huge letdown from what they expected.

It'll be the same this time around too...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Hitman42:
Lol we hope i Will be stop à 5.0.2 no 5.0.3 lol or 5.1.x
[Galaxy Note 4 General] starbuckk:
Hope us Verizon users see it sometime this year!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jrowe820:
Any new information? Sm-n910p
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Pandavieux:
nothing, Samsung likes to play hide and seek with users ... hope for January.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jrowe820:
Thought I'd reach out to find lollipop update for sm-n910p?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] daffie:
Egh...who needs lollipop anyway....4.4.4 is running perfectly on my Note4. Ok I will definately do a nandroid and check out the very first lollipop custom rom :D but still I don't believe there will be too much benefits over 4.4.4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jrowe820:
Anything new 4 note 4 lollipop update?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] megatooth:
Not really...

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/01/22/touchwiz-finally-looks-good-thanks-to-google/
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RiverCity.45:
Perhaps by version 5.4 TMO will release Lollipop for Note 4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Soryuu:
I got this today, hmmm (not sure if N910U/NZ specific or not)

Sent from my Note 4