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[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
Hmm, refresh apps still doesn't notice when apps are uninstalled e.g. I removed shealth and splanner and the icons are immune ;)

Edit: I figure now that it has to do with the apps not being uninstalled but frozen with TiBu.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Sorry for late reply daniel, i have been busy playing beach tennis with my son on weekend :)

"Delete from jina" works for frozen apps?
[Android Apps and Games] FerroFlux:
Love the app, very helpful! Would it be possible to add the option to move the sidebar activation area? I have it set to the right but I would like to move it vertically so that I don't accidentally trigger the sidebar. Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Hi, thank you for the suggestion, i'll add the option as soon as possibile... vacations are coming and my wife would not be happy if I spend too much time at the computer :)
[Android Apps and Games] FerroFlux:
No worries! Enjoy the family time!
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
Maybe you remember .. earlier we decreased the left area to launch the app options. Now I would like to ask that the right area - to initialte multi select - to be also decreased. Ever so often I get into multiselect mode even though I want to launch an app. As usual in "Name" mode.

Edit: I tried again .. actually it may also be that the touch time is too short before multiselect starts. Will observe ;)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Hi Daniel! How are you?

If i remember, you use the tablet layout, list view, 2 columns on nexus 7. In this scenario the sensitive area should be the left-most portion (about 3/4) of the card.

The touch time is the default android long press timing but i think i can tweak it if needed.

Indeed next weekend i hope to release an update: some bug fixing, the [MENTION=1055878]FerroFlux[/MENTION] suggestion and the revisited privacy statement, mandatory for all published apps, starting from 30 sept, to be compliant with the EU law...

So if you think it's worth it i can try to change the long press in a VERY LONG press :)
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
Hi there .. all is well :)

Indeed I have a Nex7 but I hardly use it. My focus is on my Galaxy S5.

The left area seems totally fine for me .. and after doing more testing it should be a longer press timing that remedies what I experience. Since my main use is to launch an app .. multiselect should not butt it the way it does. Maybe VERY LONG is too long .. but a bit longer would IMO be good.

Looking forward to your update :)

BTW I would still like to replace the default Appmanager on the main launcher screen with Jina .. maybe this requires some Smali stuff (or so) .. but maybe you have an idea ;)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New 1.2.4 beta is available

Fixed old folder opened sometimes instead of the right one

Option to position the Sidebar everywhere handler (up/center/bottom)

Option to disable the row alignment during scroll (to improve scrolling smoothness default value is true now)

Category and Tags filter screen "pin" status saved

Long press on app icon to launch the app from the app details screen

Sidebar everywhere startup at boot settings retained after app updates

Cookies disclaimer one time message (mandatory to be compliant with the EU law)

[MENTION=1209212]daniello8[/MENTION] the "very long but not too much" click is much more tricky than i though.

I'll include in the next 1.2.5 because i have to publish the 1.2.4 on the market before the 30 september (for the cookies disclaimer)

[MENTION=1055878]FerroFlux[/MENTION], i know it would be better to allow a "free" positiong of the sidebar handler but this solution can be good to start :)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
someone noticed any problem (only android 5+ ) using sort by Last Used?
[Android Apps and Games] FerroFlux:
Great update. Appreciate you adding in the top, center and bottom option for the handle area. Looking forward to seeing where this project goes! Maybe another option would be to allow a page for widgets to be placed (i.e., on sidebar for apps and one for active widgets)
[Android Apps and Games] gintama_me:
Cool. Now manage apps is so convenient.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
hmmm more and more like a new "Jina Launcher" ;)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you and to your families!!!
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New year, new beta 1.2.5b4

Added option to rebuild icon cache

Sidebar swipe to uninstall is now optional

Sidebar everywhere hotspot position changed and tuned activation detection

Tags list sort by name option

Uninstalled apps icon are now saved

App details: export app icon

App details: clipboard copy app store url

Fixed long press on clear filter behaviour

T9 search visual feedback

General stability improvement
[Android Apps and Games] FerroFlux:
Great to see the project continue! Any chance the RAM usage has been reduced? I noticed that compared to App Swap, Jina uses about double the amount of RAM.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
I hope so, the new icon caching strategy should be a little less eager...
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New RC 1.2.5a

Fixed startup crash on some devices

Improved backup/restore

App details new text notes field

Some bugfixing
[Android Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
Hi,

I've been looking for an app like this. AWESOME!

Only one thing (maybe i missed it?)

Is there an option to add shortcuts (things like internet bookmarks) to the "app list"?

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Hi and thank you!

There is no such option yet but you are not the first who ask...i think i'll add in the next future ;)
[Android Apps and Games] planeinmountain:
This looks fantastic, great work! :good:
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New RC 1.2.5p02

Fixed sidebar everywhere on android 6.0

bugfixing
[Android Apps and Games] FerroFlux:
Would it be possible to add a shortcut to toggle the sidebar? That way I could toggle it from another side launcher I am already using!
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
You can use the "Tap to search" widget to directly toggle the sidebar.

Indeed i'm planning to add new shortcuts to open the sidebar filtered by tag or category in the future
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New beta v. 1.2.6b02

System shortcuts can be added to folders (experimental)
[Android Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
This app getting better and better, awesome :)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New beta v. 1.2.6b05

Fixed wrong app launched from folders

System shortcuts can be added to folders (experimental)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New beta v. 1.2.6b07

New desktop shortcuts to directly launch the Sidebar (filtered or not)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New beta v. 1.2.6b08

Fixed graphics issues on android 6.0

Fixed sidebar shortcut icons not displayed on some launchers

New desktop shortcuts to directly launch the Sidebar (filtered or not)
[Android Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
Some suggestions

Awesome work with Jina, incredible smooth, love the sidebar and folders

Some things i notice / helpful tips, please don't see it as "bad comment":

My english is not that good, so i created a list.

- Launching a shortcut doesn't close folder (launching a app does).

- Custom Icons (also by shortcuts)

- Take shortcuts in the sorting (now always on top)

- Sort items manually

I guess that's it :o
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Thank you very much for your tip [MENTION=628601]bigchrizzieboy[/MENTION].

They are all correct but i would like to focus on the last one because i think it is the most wanted by many users, especially if you think of Jina folders as a mini desktop.

But is not easy to add such feature, because of the current data structure.... so i think it is time to start a deep re-engineering :eek:

This could be an opportunity to revisit some Jina concepts and i would like to listen to yours and other users's opinions.

For example, do you think it is useful to keep separate the concepts of tags and categories?

I mean i could create automatic tags with the current categories info from the playstore and let user add other tags...

Let me know what you think guys ;)
[Android Apps and Games] FerroFlux:
Excllent add with the sidebar shortcut. One suggestion I have would be to use more material design icons. For instance, the icons at the top of the sidebar don't seem obvious as to what they are and they don't really follow material design guidelines. I know there is an excellent collection of material icons provided by Google!

Also, I noticed the device ID permission...is that really required?
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Hmm the device id is not required for sure but i think the permission you noticed is the wider read_phone_state. The truth is that i don't remember exactly why read_phone_state is required... :o

Maybe for google analytics but i have to check
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
[MENTION=1055878]FerroFlux[/MENTION] : i did a quick check and i think i have added the read_phone_state permission only for the kids oriented Jina little brother, Kids Folder (to unlock the drawer on incoming calls), so i removed it in the attached Jina version... hope i have not broken something...

About the icons you are right but graphics is not really my strength... i would be eternally grateful if someone could make proposals on the icons to use :angel:

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[Android Apps and Games] FerroFlux:
Great thanks for the permission removal.

I'll have a look at some potential icons you could use from Google and post them here!
[Android Apps and Games] FerroFlux:
Ok, I have some potential icons that you could use, taken from Google's site here (you can download the icons directly from there in .png format):

https://design.google.com/icons/

Specifically considering the sidebar:

-for the filter button consider using the "filter list" icon (under the Content heading)

-for the tags button, the "label" icon (under the Action heading)

-for the sort button, the "sort" icon (under the Content heading)

These are just some ideas. I can download the icons and post them here if you want, but I didn't know what size would be best (you can change the dpi for each before downloading).

Hope this helps!
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
That's ok, no need to post the icon.

It will be something like the screenshot attached.

The biggest difficulty i see is when you cannot find some icon in the collection... it is very difficult (at least to me) to make an harmonius set.
[Android Apps and Games] FerroFlux:
Yes I agree that it's difficult if you can find an icon. But that screenshot looks good, and much more in line with material design! Ever consider adding a donation option ;)
[Android Apps and Games] RiseUp:
This is actually went I came to this thread for the first time. What is currently the reason for having tags AND categories? Is it simply that one is automatically applied (categories) and the other is user-defined (tags)?

Also, two feature requests if I may:

1) Can you make the T9 pad's height adjustable in the sidebar? Right now, the width is adjustable by reducing the sidebar, but I find the buttons too small in height for my fingers to quickly and accurately tap them.

2) Can you add an option search apps along with tags using the T9 pad? Basically, I'd like to open the sidebar and immediately tap away at the T9 pad to find things quickly, whether I'm searching specific app titles or tags if I don't remember the title.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Welcome!

There is mainly an hystorical reason, jina was born with categories only to map the hierarchical google play structure (apps or games and the apps belong to a single category)

Tags have been added later to allow a more flexible mapping m:n.

If i totally remove categories from jina and i automatically create a tag for each playstore category i could reach almost the same result.

What would be lost is the first navigation level between apps or games... unless i don't find an easy way to allow an AND search by tags (i.e. find apps with tag "apps" AND tag "tools")

I think it should be not difficult to use different preset heights (small, medium, large) could it be ok?

You mean show apps whose name match the current T9 search OR tagged with a tag whose name match the currernt T9 search?
[Android Apps and Games] RiseUp:
Using an AND search sounds good to me.

Sure, that should work. I'm just looking to make the height bigger to prevent mis-taps, not for any aesthetic reason.

Yes, precisely. The main thing I love about JINA is the speed with which I can launch things; I love swiping from the side and tapping away. Sometimes I can't think of the name of the app (because I'm testing several apps for the same purpose), and I think it would be great to type in the tag and browse through the tagged apps.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Ok i'm going to upload a new RC build with an option (sidebar prefs) to make the T9 taller.

Hope i'll be able to promote production tomorrow if no major bugs are reported.

I have some doubts about the mixed search app name, tag name, but I want to think a little more, lets come back on this subject later ;)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New rc v. 1.2.6p03

Sidebar T9 height adjustable

Removed unneeded read_phone_state permission

Tag colors code
[Android Apps and Games] RiseUp:
The taller T9 works great, thank you!

Maybe instead of a mixed search, there could be a button to switch the modes of the T9 search between the default, app searching, to another mode, tag searching. I know you said to save this for later, but I figured I'd just offer up this alternate idea.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Don't know... :confused: are you sure it is really that effective to search a tag by name? What about an option to automatically open and keep pinned the tags filter list on entering search mode?
[Android Apps and Games] RiseUp:
You're right, that sounds like a good solution. [emoji3]
[Android Apps and Games] FerroFlux:
Any news if you are still going to add these new icons?
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
I'm doing the deep re-engineering for tags/categories merge and general items sorting.

It will take some time and, at the end, the UI will change for sure: it will be the time to also change the icons. It will be JINA 2.0 :)
[Android Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
Can't wait for the big update!

Good to see more people are posting in this thread for this awesome app :good:

I've been thinking about the tags/categories question, it doesn't matter to me.

The automatic stuff (categories info from the playstore) i don't care about.

One of the two is enough as long as direct links / shortcuts / sorting will be possible.

Maybe by the "deep re-engineering" it's usefull to "engineer" the shortcut stuff?

So it can show in full Jina (not only in side-bar/folder) and in that way it can be sorted like normal apps.

Hope it's clear enough what i mean
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Yes the "deep re-engineering" is definitely also for the shortcuts sorting.

But i was thinking to keep shortcuts only into folders, do you think they should be shown also in the sidebar/full screen drawer as normal apps?
[Android Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
Maybe showing in the sidebar/full screen with "a filter" or something like that?

I think/guess it's easier to sort items in folders when you take them in the "normal list" but that is up to you (i don't know anything about engineering, only logical thinking here).

To get the idea straight: like this: some apps, shortcut to contact, shortcuts to email folder,

Folder:

-app

-app

-shortcut

-app

-shortcut
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Yes it is correct that if all items belong to the same list, it is easier to sort them by any item's attribute (i.e. names, dates, launch count etc.).

What is bit different, and the main reason for a new data structure, is the custom sort criteria, when users can freely arrange items in a folder (or in a list).

In this scenario, the sorting key is no more the plain item attribute but a mix of a new attribute and its current context: the container (maybe i want to keep at the first position item A in RED folder while in the GREEN folder the same item A is in a different position).

Indeed i'll think about showing shortcuts also in the apps lists other than into folders :)
[Android Apps and Games] FerroFlux:
Sounds great! Looking forward to the big update!
[Android Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
Question

Hi,

I cannot see all my apps inside Jina.

The cause is probaly that i switched ROM and restored with Titanium Backup.

Apps like camera, browser are missing (not hidden or something, really not visible inside Jina).

Is there an (future) option to "reload / rebuild" the "app-database"?

Or is clean data/re-installation the solution?

I'm hoping for a rebuild so i don't have to tag all my apps again.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Just try the "Refresh installed apps" function (settings->advanced).

Let me know if it works
[Android Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
Fixed it, thanks!

Yes, that solved it :)

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] blackscorpio06:
Great Launcher!!!

This is awesome!!! I was looking for some thing like "Windows Taskbar" that sticks around the bottom, you know with the large screens I can sacrifice little real estate for the convenience, but this is very close with "Launch Everywhere" feature.

But I have been struggling to get it to work properly on SL Launcher and Nova Launcher, "Launch Everywhere" works intermittently. First I tried to start through a NOVA gesture and later from the hotspot, it works intermittently. Not sure what I am doing wrong.

OP, has this been tested on any of the launchers I mentioned, what am I doing wrong? I looped through the settings couple of times, tried all variations of settings. No luck.

Another issue I am facing is: "show t9 search on launch" in side bar mode, I couldn't get it work for me.

:confused:
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Hi and welcome!

Nova is my main launcher and the sidebar everywhere works on my phone with the settings you see on the 1th screenshot attached, no special settings in nova (of course this is the answer you will always get from every developer :D )

Just to be sure, you mean it doesn't start at all intermittently or you just see the hotspot blinking sometimes? Do you have any memory booster installed or any app to manage gestures?

Indeed, to start the sidebar through a Nova Gesture you should choose to start a shortcut (in nova) and then choose "Jina Sidebar shortcuts" (see 2th screenshot).

The "show t9 search on launch" is for the fullscreen not for the sidebar but you are right, i have to add the same option also in the sidebar ;)
[Android Apps and Games] blackscorpio06:
Hot spot works on the home screen and once you launch an app, from then HOTSPOT won't show up. If I start Jina click on the app icon or from recents, it works again and same again once an app is opened. Regarding gestures, I guess there may be a gesture conflict between Nova, COS12.1 and Jina, a wild guess though. Since, DOUBLE TAP HOME is available in Nova and COS12.1. Right now I am using Smart Launcher, I am having same problems with SL as well.

Yes, indeed t9 on sidebar is much needed, for my taste. Thanks for the cool app, will try and report back.

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Check the screen recording of the issue, Smart Launcher is default.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3R9SESFm2ZTZU41OFB3UjVHaGc
[Android Apps and Games] RiseUp:
I have a similar issue where Jina launches only sometimes when using either the hotspot or the shortcut (launched via Nova Launcher's gestures).
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Hmmm that's not good at all [emoji53]

I assume you don't have any app blacklisted in the settings.

Do you have the "pop apps from history" option set?

Inviato dal mio SM-N910F utilizzando Tapatalk
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Maybe i found the problem guys, tomorrow morning (my time) i'll try to post a fix.

Inviato dal mio SM-N910F utilizzando Tapatalk
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
This version should fix the missed activation and there is also a new option to start the sidebar in search mode (sidebar prefs).

It was not really launcher related but a sort of self-blacklisting, a check to prevent the hotspot activation when the sidebar is in the foreground.

Let me know if the fix works.
[Android Apps and Games] RiseUp:
After some quick testing, this new version appears to have successfully fixed the issue. [emoji3]
[Android Apps and Games] blackscorpio06:
Looks good. [emoji106] [emoji106] [emoji106] Start in search mode [emoji106] [emoji106] [emoji106] [emoji106]

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Quick request, in search mode, change the search character color to little dark shade, right now it isn't easy on eyes.

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I tried bluegray and cleanwhite, same on both themes.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
You mean the matched characters highlightings?
[Android Apps and Games] blackscorpio06:
Search box text color.
[Android Apps and Games] blackscorpio06:
Screenshot
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
:good:
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Here you are :)
[Android Apps and Games] blackscorpio06:
Sooper [emoji2]

More here:

1. Launch side bar from hot spot, type search criteria, touch outside to close the SB, launch again from Hotspot, previous search not cleared??

2. How about allowing users to choose custom icon pack, currently installed in the system? May be in the next big update?
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Don't you like N.1 behaviour? If you just hide the sidebar without launching an app, on resume you start from where you left (but there is an option to clear current search after launching an app, both sidebar/fullscreen).

N.2 you should already be able to assign icons (apps, categories, tags) from icon packs if they are ADW compatibles
[Android Apps and Games] blackscorpio06:
N.1 may be user selectable setting to choose the behaviour would be nice to have. Another addition would be, one tap clear search string "x" in the search box.

N.2 thats per app setting, i would like to choose icon pack to use for all the apps.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
I don't know if it is possible, i'm not an icon packs expert but i suppose it is not easy if jina is not in the icon pack's supported launchers list... i have to investigate.
[Android Apps and Games] datawrhsdoc:
Issue with Jina Being Closed by Andriod

I'm using the latest version of JINA, and, while it would the too rely on the sidebar as an everyday thing, JINA doesn't seem to stay persistent in memory. Can you add a persistent notification so that Android doesn't close the app on its own?
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Ciao and welcome,

sure i can add a persistent notification, but first let me ask a couple of questions to understand the scenario.

Are you using the latest beta 1.2.6pr.05 or the current production 1.2.6pr? Do you use any memory booster?
[Android Apps and Games] datawrhsdoc:
I'm currently using 1.2.6pr.p5 but also have the same problem with the GA release. I never use memory bosters.

Also, is there any way to make the image sizes and fonts for the drawer larger?
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
The drawer icon view mode is pinch zoomable while the list view is fixed size. I could try to make also the listview zoomable but i'm a bit scared because there will be no much room to show tags and categories.

Another question about the Sidebar, sorry if i bother asking but i need to be sure, do you have this settings, "start at boot" included?
[Android Apps and Games] datawrhsdoc:
Ah...I see the zoom now with the drawer. Still rather tiny.

Yes, I'm using the start on boot option.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Ok this version implements the sidebar notification icon (optional default on -> general settings).

Let me know if that helps.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New rc v. 1.2.7

Sidebar persistent notification icon

Increased max zoom drawer icon view

Bugfixing
[Android Apps and Games] datawrhsdoc:
Yes, it's persistent now.

Thanks