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[Android Apps and Games] Panderawan:
French translation complete.

Amazing job, keep it up man.
[Android Apps and Games] Nirnic:
Hi, [MENTION=575209]bambapin[/MENTION]! Sorry for the late answer. I'm trying version 3.3.0b1172.1903090805

Theme issue: yes, white background and black toolbar.

Swipe down to close issue: it is still there. It only works in apps view and on top. So strange! It would be nice if another user could try it.

Suggestion related to search by name in folders: it would be great if it could search folders in subfolders too, not only apps in subfolders.

Regarding this feature, I think there is a bug here: if no folders were found by name, the button to switch between apps and folders disappears by pressing it twice (image attached).
[Android Apps and Games] Watchapa:
Hi , i'm new on this forum but i use Jina for a long time.

I would like to say that there is a bug on the function center on the screen in folders since version 3.3.0b1172.1903090805.

And a big thank you for this app become indispensable.

I hope this is the right place to post that kind of message.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Welcome, yes this is the right place, i'll fix as soon as possible. Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] Watchapa:
Super ! ??
[Android Apps and Games] dbareis:
I only use Jina as app launcher and love it EXCEPT that it is almost impossible to click on any app in the right hand column without it scrolling instead, this annoys the cr@p out of me.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Hi, could you record a short video? I need to see exactly what happens and where you press.
[Android Apps and Games] dbareis:
You can't see much but I think the issue is that you allow for a very wide ribbon on the right for the scroll control. In the video I clicked on the GMAIL icon, if I try hard to click on the very left of it it will work.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Ok i understand, thanks.

Please try this version, i changed the behavior of the fast scroll, the bar is activated only after you start a scroll with a relatively high speed.

[MENTION=8000582]Watchapa[/MENTION] this build should fix the center in screen problem.
[Android Apps and Games] dbareis:
On the new version, I did have a few odd scrolls but it mainly seems to work, I'll have to try it for longer to be sure. Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] marciozomb13:
I would like to suggest for the dev to kindly consider to add an option to remove/make transparent the divider lines on lateral drawer. This will make it cleaner and beautiful. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] hotcell:
After updating to XDA Labs version seems there is notification present, although I'd expect it only when a new app is added (for tag assignment). Didn't find a switch to eliminate that in settings... yet. Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] Nirnic:
Hi. If you are using Android 8.0+, you can disable Jina Service notification channel via system settings.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Thanks for the suggestion, i'll add to the todo list.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Yes [MENTION=8455626]Nirnic[/MENTION] is right.

To allow an app to be published on the Play Store, Google forces developers to use the latest versions of Android libraries.

These new libraries force a notification when an app or some services are active in the background.

This notification is not manageable from within the app but it must be the user, using the system interface, to hide/minimize it if he does not want to see it.
[Android Apps and Games] dbareis:
I'm on Android 9 and don't remember ever having that notification before loading the APK a few comments back. The service is disabled in settings as are just about anything else I could think of.
[Android Apps and Games] hotcell:
I'm still on Android 7.0. Does that mean there no differences between xda labs and GP versions in that regard and a A7.x user has only option to either disable notifications for the entire app or just have this functionally useless notification enforced on him?
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
The notification is not linked to the android version of the phone but to the version of the android libraries that are used within the app, the GP version is much older than this beta on XDA and did not yet have new libraries.

I was forced to update the libraries because Google no longer accepts apps (nor new apps nor updates to existing apps) that have old libraries.

From https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/113469?hl=en#targetsdk

The "Target API level" is the is the set of libraries i was talking about.
[Android Apps and Games] hotcell:
Got it. So what API level the GP version currently has and when you plan to update it?

Looks like I'll be forced to disable all the app notifications entirely and launch J to assign new apps tags manually.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
The GP version (3.2x) targets API 25, the current version (3.3x) targets api 28, the notification thing was introduced with the API 26.

I plan to update it soon, there are still a couple of things to fix and some translations but it won't take long.
[Android Apps and Games] dbareis:
If we must have a notification can it at least do something useful?
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Ok Dennis, i'm open to suggestions.

Please note that now, if you enable the overlay service even without enabling any hotspots, the default notification is replaced by the complete one, with 2 or 4 slots for quick access to the app.
[Android Apps and Games] dbareis:
As I've said I only use the app draw (currently), that would make a good fallback, otherwise let user choose? Your decision will probably be better than mine, but it's useless at the moment.
[Android Apps and Games] dbareis:
I tried to customise the notification, seems there are a few bugs/features:

(1) Enabled overlay service

(2) Pressed on (from memory) a plus icon, got choice of apps (search wouldn't hurt here), it is multiple select so I chose 2. Only the 2nd was used. If you only want to allow one then the UI is wrong. I don't see why you wouldn't have allowed 2 or more. Why stop at 2 apps? I have another app that has this functionality (although it's not limited to just apps).

(3) The "J" icon still doesn't do anything

(4) At some stage notification returned to default state, to fix (a) disable overlay service & (b) re-enabled overlay service. Not sure how long that's going to "stick".

(5) I don't know what the "pause" icon does but I probably don't want it and maybe also not the settings.

That's my feedback, but I'll probably just disable via android although maybe if it could show the app drawer with only favourites showing that might make me change my mind.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Thank you for the feedback.

Do you mean the drawer filtered for the favorites apps only?
[Android Apps and Games] dbareis:
yes
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Ok, try this version please.

[MENTION=1057334]hotcell[/MENTION] i added an option (drawer advanced settings -> experiments) to hide the persistent notification on android < 8.0.

It could work on your phone but it could also lead to crashes, please revert it back if you notice a strange behaviour. To apply the new option, you have to manually force close the app.

Let me know please.
[Android Apps and Games] hotcell:
[MENTION=575209]bambapin[/MENTION]

Yes, seems it works! :good:

Will report back if stability issues arise or something strange happens. Thank you!
[Android Apps and Games] Watchapa:
Hi. Sorry for the delay, I didn't pay attention.

Yes the center on screen is working again.

Thank you very much.
[Android Apps and Games] Nirnic:
Bug report: when you try to search a shortcut by label (in order to add it to a folder), Jina closes.

Version 3.3.0b1174.1903312149
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
New user.

What a wonderful tool, but the ui is not intuitive to a new user and a setup tutorial is needed. Perhaps it's menus algorithm or somewhere to search how to do something.

Removing items either works one at a time or not making setup lengthy and frustrating.

I like the sidebar but don't need the app drawer. Can it be disabled along with its hotspot that interferes with my installed keyboard typing?

Where can I support the developer?

Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Using android 9 (pie).

I too have used Nova prime for years.

Are you saying this can replace Nova as a launcher? It is not listed as a 'launcher'.

What about things like gestures (double tap to lock phone, etc.)?

It looks amazing but certainly not intuitive.

Edit:

Discovered the How to section on your website. Personally I prefer the how to in text, not video. Both faster and clearer for me.
[Android Apps and Games] LighthammerX:
No, Jina is an App Drawer / App Manager.

Current versions of Nova Beta are starting to offer features that make Jina attractive to me.

I've actually dropped Jina as my day runner pending what happens with improvements to this app versus Nova.

Nova lacks options and can only do some of the stuff Jina can if you're --- let's say --- "creative".

Jina offers lots more features, but lacks fine tuning IMHO.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Thank you for your helpful comments. From my very limited experience I agree. The interface is confusing and unpolished to me.

I was mainly attracted by its sidebar, similar to the one in Action launcher. I've never tried Nova beta. Will look for it.
[Android Apps and Games] LighthammerX:
Just be aware, Nova Beta doesn't have a side bar.

What is important to be is being able to group all my apps along with various shortcuts into folders. Thats what I can kind of do with Nova Beta now. Jina is much better at this, but the feedback I gave on user interface stands as the primary reason I'm not using it right now.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Thank you for your help LighthammerX.

I'm getting to figure out Jina. I just need a couple more items explained.

What are the names of the 2 Jina side trays (can't seem to attached screenshots).

1. The one on the left in which I can put folders. I open that one by sliding its hotspot.

Is that the 'sidebar'?

2. The other one appears on the right. It contains everything in alphabetical order, no folders. What is it called?

There does not seem to be a 'hotspot' for it, or is there?

How is it made to appear?
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Hi,

the one with the apps in alphabetical order is the Full Sidebar (actually the alphabetical order is the default but you can change it as you do in the app drawer), the content is the same as the main app drawer.

The other one is the Favorites Sidebar, the content is the same as in the Favorites Folder (ie the app flagged as favorite or other nested folders with their apps and shortcuts).

You can manage the activation hotspots of both through the settings of the overlay service.

There is also a third activation hotspot meant to open the app drawer sliding up from the bottom (please check the screenshots attached)
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Thank you so much! That makes sense.

Somewhere along my arranging things I deleted the shortcut that opens the 'full sidebar'. (It may have been part of the favorites but now gone). So now the only way I can access the 'full sidebar' is by clicking on the Jina desktop shortcut and clicking on hamburger/sidebar.

I would like to add a direct shortcut to the 'full sidebar' into the smaller sidebar. How do I find that 'full sidebar' shortcut to use?

I really appreciate your help. Thank you.

---------- Post added at 10:08 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:59 AM ----------

Solved.

It's another hotspot whose color was set transparent and therefore invisible.

Sorry to take up your time.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Indeed if you want to add the shortcut to the Full Sidebar inside smaller one, for example if you prefer to have only one hotspot, you can either:

- mark the Full Sidebar as "favorite": long press on the JINA Sidebar icon (from the drawer or from the same sidebar) and then "Toggle favorites"

- add it directly from within the Favorites Sidebar (see the video: https://youtu.be/G93wxlxswPo)
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
That's my problem, I deleted the JINA Sidebar icon you mean. I'm using Nova launcher and when I long press on the Jina icon I get (screenshot), not what you describe.

Edit

Your second method worked for me.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I once stumbled on a screen that let me choose the app elements to include in the full sidebar. Things like date, app size, etc.

I can't find it anymore. Could you help me find it again? I want to remove items like app size etc.

One problem I noticed:

The hot spots suddenly disappeared. When I restarted Jina they reappeared.

What causes this?

Does notification settings have anything to do with this?

Is internet access required for Jina or can I use a firewall for privacy?

Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Deleted
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
From the Sidebar main menu: Look & Feel -> App list content

About the hotspots, almost surely it happens because the app gets killed by your ROM.

Make sure that JINA is excluded from the list of apps to be optimized and that there are no settings that prevent it from remaining active in the background. Keeping the notification on could help but it is not enough by itself on some ROMs.

Internet access is not mandatory but it is used to automatically tag the app: without connection JINA will continue to work but will no longer assign categories.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Really excellent app. Thank you.

Feedback:

1. Look & Feel -> App list content

works for me from main Jina *desktop* icon.

2. Above App list content section not available if Jina setup accessed from the sidebar. That's why I couldn't find it.

3. I have size, date, icon unselected: but they are still present in sidebar.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
The main JINA "desktop" (the JINA Drawer) and the Full Sidebar are 2 different modules, each one has its own Look & Feel settings.

Not sure to understand what you mean by "if Jina setup is accessed from the sidebar", could you post a screenshot?
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
That's the explanation. Solved.

1. When I access "look an feel" from within the large sidebar I find the settings I need and the changes I make appear in the sidebar.

2. But, if I access Jina settings by clicking on the Jina drawer shortcut on the home screen, this also opens up Jina settings which also contains a "look an feel" section. I was making changes there and they were not reflected in the sidebar.

So, it was my fault in not realizing that though they are similar Jina menus, the 2 sidebars and the drawer are separate modules with similar looking settings menus. Now that I understand I realize my confusion and all is clear.

Sorry to waste your time.

(Is it possible to just install the 2 sidebars and not install the drawer which I don't need?)
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I've created several Jina folders each containing appropriate apps. I added these folders into the narrow sidebar, the one containing the favorites folder.

I now have things the way I like them.

One question:

Using the narrow sidebar (not sure of its name), when I open a folder on it and use an app, that narrow sidebar closes. That's good. But the next time I use the narrow sidebar hotspot to open the sidebar it opens where I last used it: with the sub folder open.

I would prefer that when I use its hotspot, that it opens at its root level (favorites? ), not the last opened subfolder. Is that possible?

Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
There is an option int the Favorites Sidebar settings, please check the screenshots attached.
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Thank you for taking the time to reply.

I already had that option selected, but because of my many different attempts I had not noticed that it had indeed achieved what I wanted. Stupid me! Sorry and thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] Nirnic:
Bug report: in app details, swipping right and left from "entry points" doesn't work properly: if it is empty, it works; if there are entry points, it doesn't. Strange ?

Jina version: 3.3.0b1174.1903312149

Device: Honor 8 (FRD-L04)

OS: Android 8.0/EMUI 8.0
[Android Apps and Games] huct:
Is it possible to filter my list of apps and games with multiple tags at once?

I'm wanting to setup tags so that I can filter with two or three at once to show things like all puzzle games that can be played with one hand or all card games that support S-Pen and don't require internet or any mix of categories like this.
[Android Apps and Games] Jinnn92:
Hello. Do you have time and feel like adding promised long press duration? :angel:
[Android Apps and Games] koimr:
Scroll sidebar

Hi! Very new to Jina and love the favourites sidebar. :)

Because I am very lazy :) is there a way to do an "endless" scroll of the sidebar? When I open it and the app I want is at the top it would be easier to scroll down so it's right by my thumb. Does that make sense?
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Sorry for the delay in the response.

You can use folders to merge multiple tags. You should create a custom folder and add into the Live Folders linked to the tags you want to merge.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
I'm sorry, i completely forgot about the long press :o
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Hi, there is "Stack from bottom" option in the Favorites sidebar, could you try if it helps?
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Hi, if you are still trying JINA on a beta of Android Q, can i ask if you noticed a long delay with the sidebar hotspots immediately after pressing the Home button?
[Android Apps and Games] Jinnn92:
I'm sorry to keep bugging you about this, I'm just so used to 200 ms for years and the regular delay seems like ages ;P
[Android Apps and Games] igloohed73:
Sorry for the delay either missed or didn't get this notification. Anyway, yes sometimes there has been a delay. Has been very inconsistent in that regard. However I just installed the latest beta for Jina a little while ago & that inconsistent lag has seemed to disappear, fingers crossed.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Yes i can understand... the difficulty is that it is not possible to simply change a parameter (perhaps because it would have been too easy and the android developers would have been bored :( ) but it is necessary to completely replace the long press management function provided by Android and to do this i also have to give up all the other automatisms related to the gestures and therefore i have to rewrite those too.

A couple of questions to see if it is possible to think about a workaround: do you have root? eventually (i have to check the feasibility) a double tap instead of the shorter long press could be fine?
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Thank you very much. The limitation on starting apps in background in Android Q, is likely to be a big problem for both JINA and other apps that use overlays (or those that automate tasks) :(
[Android Apps and Games] xdatok:
Can Icon Pack Studio be used in JINA?

Can icons generated from Icon Pack Studio be used in JINA? I've generated icons but I haven't been able to figure out how to get them to show up in JINA. Only icon packs from the playstore show up in JINA. Any pointers?
[Android Apps and Games] kam333:
Yes, I use IPS. To use the generated icon pack go to menu > look and feel then choose the icon pack (see image).

You can also long press an app icon and choose 'app details' then 'reset/ set icon' and choose the individual icon.
[Android Apps and Games] xdatok:
Re: Can Icon Pack Studio be used in JINA?

Yes, I had been doing what you wrote but the icon pack would not show up in JINA. I finally got this working by loading Nova instead of SL5, (probably could have used stock as well), and then opening IPS to export. This actually exported the icon pack, which then showed up in JINA. Somehow when using SL5, IPS would not export something that could be viewed in JINA.

Hope that helps someone else...
[Android Apps and Games] Jinnn92:
OH sorry, I thought it was simple, like changing system default delay. But as you said, Google makes sure developers are entertained ;D

Sure, I have root.

Thank you for answering and the best app to keep my billion others in check :good:
[Android Apps and Games] Quality26:
Just downloaded - need some sidebar help

What is the best way to have a specific list of apps only in the side bar? I have created a tag set, and filtered on that in the sidebar, but it goes back to all apps very frequently. Is there a better way to manage this?

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] kam333:
Have you tried using favourites only setting?
[Android Apps and Games] Quality26:
That has done the trick so far. Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] Nirnic:
Hi! Two suggestions related to search tool. It would be great if:

- "search mode on startup" option could be applied in folders view too.

- "search by name in folders" could search folders and subfolders names too. I don't know if "search by name in folders: apps, shortcuts, subfolders" described in the changelog means you can do that, but actually it only searches apps and shortcuts names.

Thanks in advance!

Jina version: 3.3.0b1190.1905310933

OS: Android 8.0/EMUI 8.0

Device: Honor 8
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Hi, search by name should match folder names if the option search in subfolders is switched off.

When that option is set all folders are expanded and only their content is shown.

Do you think it should show also the folders?
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
yes

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Sent from my phone.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Try this one, the version name was reset to 1 because i'm testing an "official" beta on the market.

If you guys are interested in the google play beta let me know and i'll send you instruction
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
Seems to be fixed .. thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] umetnic:
Instruct away!

Oh BTW:
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Thank you :)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
First i need to add the email you use as google account to access google play, to the tester group (send me a pm).

After you are added you can join the beta using this link

https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.mobeedom.android.jinaFS

Advantages of joining the "official" beta are:

you will receive automatic updates as it was a published app

i'll receive crash reports with log when the app crashes ... hope to not receive :)
[Android Apps and Games] umetnic:
I'm In, tnx.

So I don't need to send You logcat after crash?

Because I can reproduce one FC at the moment and would like to send it ;DD
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
:crying: Logcat is always better :crying:
[Android Apps and Games] umetnic:
log cat it is ;) Current FC gone in the wind with latest release ;)

… via XDA.mobile app on N3
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Don't worry i'm managing to introduce a new one :angel:
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
it is simple to switch from full to sidebar but i miss an icon to go back to full just as easily.

Sent from my phone.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Yes i know.. now you can long press the sidebar menu icon to switch while a dedicated single click icon would be better.

But where would you place such icon? Any idea guys?

Double tap on the title? Too much windows like?
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
I would have expected long press on control tab (the thing right).. another thought is to add a round icon like search on top of screen.

Sent from my phone.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
This is the best i have been able to do :) You'll receive the updated version in a couple of hours (it depends on how much are busy google servers).

This evening JINA will go live guys!
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
Thanks for implementing this .. though I don't think it adds nicely .. long pressing on Jina my have been the more aesthetic way to go ;)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
I tried long press on Jina first but it often interferes with motion causing unwanted full screen switch....