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[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Personally I won't recommend the Moto G, it still has hideous RAM issues that are possibly hardware.. :)

The ultra power saving mode... Well it can be achieved but would be pointless of having a smartphone... Because all you could do is call or SMS ;) not really a smartphone then.

Dual Sim smartphones are hard to come by that have good specs and good support, I think our moto g2 or the galaxy grand 2 , galaxy grand is identical in specs but has 512 MB more RAM.

I would personally recommend the Nexus 5 as still as a good deal.

And our Moto G has a tight but small community :) everyone knows everyone I would say...

Conclusion: Get the Moto G2 if you can stand the RAM management and the mediocre battery (3-4 Hrs SOT) or if you can wait for Moto to fix it as the alleged rumors say they will.

Welcome to help, anytime ;)

Nice what courses did u take specifically?

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] Janni007:
[MENTION=4725371]Pizza_Dox[/MENTION]

Firstly, thank you for your kind reply. Out of the three places i posted this question on xda, you answered me with the most care. I really thank you for that.

Ok, i had a look at the nexus 5, but its not dual sim (which i require to keep personal and business numbers separate).

i live in South Africa, and thus only have access to these dual sim phones:

The Moto g 2014 (2nd gen)

Samsung Galaxy S Duos 2 (S7582)

Samsung Galaxy Grand DUOS (I9082)

Hisense Infinity Pure 1

Nokia Lumia 630 dual sim

Acer Liquid Z200 duo

gobii IVP

Huawei Ascend Y330 Dual Sim

Wiko Iggy

Prestigio

And some other noname brands

I would like to stay with android because of the modability.

1) Would you still advise me to rather go with the moto g 2014?

2) What exactly is the problem with the ram management, and how will moto be addressing it? via ota?

I would also just like to clear up, i mentioned that i have coding background, not to brag, but to indicate that i 'might' be able to produce a custom mod for myself if i need to (i think) :o

Would you advise me doing this if i would only like to be able to:

Make calls

SMS

Email

Take pictures/video

And have the screen default to greyscale except when i want to take or view pictures/videos.

3) Where would you advise me to start?

Thank you again for your help Pizza_Dox, i really appreciate it!

May The Lord Bless you abundantly!
[G 2014 Android Development] sryverfx:
Well, i think it doesn't have any RAM issues on CM 11. The battery life depends highly on your use, I usually get an 4 hours SOT avg, but I got more than 6 hours SOT sometimes too. But the point is I don't think Nexus 5 will have a much better battery life if it has.

I don't know some of the devices you cited above, but I do think Moto G is the best on the list.

It has some RAM management bug on Stock 4.4.4. It can't do any multitasking.

I don't know exactly what changed from Kitkat to Lollipop in the RAM management department, but with the OTA update to the 5.0.2 it can multitask much better.

As I already said before, I think CM 11 is the best ROM atm in RAM management for Moto G 2014, and I didn't find any bugs on it yet.
[G 2014 Android Development] patvdzwan:
Ram management they say will be fixed in android 5.1 (I hope) and if I were you, I would buy the moto g 2014. I'm on Titan prime rom 1.1 and battery life is great.
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Not a problem :) pleasure to help...

Ahh I see, well out of that list I would recommend the moto g2 hands down, its definitely the best supported and has the best specs out on that list.

Yes I like the open source scene :)

A) yes

B) its horrible in my opinion, I can't have fb chat heads open with tapatalk, or even music with pocket, simple things... But it all depends on the user, Motorola has announced that with the alleged 5.1 update the ram management will be fixed (by ota) so my hopes are with this, I also predict it will greatly enhance battery life, devsk explains that less lmk killing means more battery life since apps don't need to constantly restart (see more at the RTRM thread)

Ahh Its OK don't worry :) yes well its quite possible, you could build a rom with grayscale built in and then you could make a simple launcher with those shortcuts. Its quite easy and possible since its Android ;) the os we all know and love.

Start by getting your hands on building a ROM for this device with grayscale or try a xposed mod or something, so step 1-obtain moto g, step 2-make the stuff, step 3-profit!

No problem :) welcome!

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Well I'll have to try CM11 and see how it is! :) thanks BTW for sharing the info.

Yes I heard this as well from Motorola/rumors. :) thanks for the info as well !

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] beliot130:
Hello guys. I installed microkat but for 2 days now i'm constantly getting notifications about upgrading my software to lollipop. Its really annoying cause it pops up every time i unlock my phone. Please help me. I dont know how to disable it. I thought that i wouldnt have this problem with custom roms
[G 2014 Android Development] Tonal4Nagual:
Just freeze OTA app with Titanium backup
[G 2014 Android Development] beliot130:
So whatever app has the word ota in it i just freeze it. I dont know the exact name.
[G 2014 Android Development] aseef17:
1.0 is the latest build or do we have some update patches too ?
[G 2014 Android Development] Tonal4Nagual:
MotorolaOTA
[G 2014 Android Development] Janni007:
[MENTION=6239998]sryverfx[/MENTION] , [MENTION=5757126]patvdzwan[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4725371]Pizza_Dox[/MENTION] ,

Thank you very much guys for your time and kind help. I really do appreciate your replies and input!

Ok great, i think i'm going to get myself the moto g 2014 then! :D

Hope to see you guys here soon :o

Thanx again and may The Lord bless you guys!
[G 2014 Android Development] beliot130:
Thanks for your help guys. :good:
[G 2014 Android Development] Hankmg5:
If I'm on android lollipop ROM. Do I still flash it normally with the wipes or do I have to be on stock kk to do it?

Edit: does this come with gapps pre installed or do I have to get it andnif so could you link me to the appropriate version?
[G 2014 Android Development] MajorP93:
Hi,

make a full wipe before flashing ( select every wiping Option which is available at twcr).

Gapps are included.

Greets
[G 2014 Android Development] ashlp2904:
Rooting???????

Guys, I need your help!!

I am on stock Lollipop 5.0.2 dual SIM Indian version and want to install this ROM.

I need to root,unlock boot-loader and install custom recovery in it. However there are many threads in XDA as well as outside world for rooting,etc and I am confused which will work easily with 100% success. :confused:

A small help on guiding me on this would be greatly appreciated since then I will also make a document on it and the number of questions regarding rooting will be reduced to a great extent. :angel:

TIA:)
[G 2014 Android Development] aseef17:
http://xdaforums.com/moto-g-2014/development/guide-root-moto-g-2nd-gen-2014-t2874245

Use twrp 2.8.4.0 and supersu 2.45 instead of the ones provided in the thread .. The rest remains the same
[G 2014 Android Development] rffslow:
I'm having problems with mute phone calls. The people on the other side can hear me, but i can't hear them.

Is anyone else with this?
[G 2014 Android Development] hkjareda:
no didn't have that problem while using this rom
[G 2014 Android Development] Cesar Cao:
I install your rom, and loss signal, the status bar from signal seems ok, but no sound during calls, i try to go back to stock KK, and now fastboot dont let me install it, the commands show a preflash error, i dont know what can i do now, please help, sorry for bad english
[G 2014 Android Development] patvdzwan:
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Why are you asking the dev of this rom about your fastboot problem? Search the Internet.
[G 2014 Android Development] KaiserEmperor:
The top speaker not working is apparently an issue in every ROM, even stock. Rebooting helps for an unknown amount of time.
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Slukks new pinkman kernel is fantastic, recommended to go try it out guys ;) 100% compatible with MicroKat, BTW I'm back home to MicroKat!

Sent from my XT1068
[G 2014 Android Development] luishr:
Which new kernel exactly? The one Slukk released for CM11? Or there is a new one for stock KK?

I saw his thread right now and only saw for stock KK the pINKman_21012015_titan.Kernel_KK.zip, which is the one I'm using with Microkat, and have not found a newer one besides the CM11 one. Not sure if I let something pass unseen...

Thanks!
[G 2014 Android Development] meadillas11:
MicroKat kernel = pinKman 3.4.42

New ver. kernel = pinkMan 3.4.106

;)
[G 2014 Android Development] luishr:
Thanks for the reply, but I'm still a little confused.

I know this must be sound really stupid, and normally I don't ask such question and just look for things (like you can see, I have almost 0 posts hahaha), but the only version I find to flash for KK on slukk thread is the one I currently use:

3.4.42-pINKman

slukk@titan #666

Tue Jan 20 16:25:35 CET 2015

So like I said, this must be stupid on my part, but I must be overlooking something really basic here.

Sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks again
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
MicroMod-11 in the works :D (CM11 + Optimizations)

Also im releasing PA Pico Gapps + Optimizations... :)

Stay tuned, should be available tmrw morning!
[G 2014 Android Development] ashlp2904:
Battery friendly - CM11

Yoo. Thats the spirit.

Please make cm11 battery friendly. Now I am rooting the device for the same. :)

Also provide the best kernel for battery. :cowboy:

TIA
[G 2014 Android Development] Hankmg5:
One more question. Is the battery life decent on this ROM? I get 5-6 hours on my quantom is ROM and wondering if this ROM has around that
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Yes it is :) I can get 3 hours SOT with heavy use on 3G always basically , that's my use... ;)

Sent from my XT1068
[G 2014 Android Development] metalrules321:
Aww Yeah !! :D:D

Cant wait m8 :laugh:

On a side note, I still cant find the new pinkman kernel update for kk.

The only one I could find was ''pINKman_21012015_titan.Kernel_KK.zip''

Was that the one ??
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Haha :D and about waiting xD status update is, I tried cm11 and I like it ALOT so I want to put all the effort into it, so I can't publish it yet, I'm working on as many optimizations as possible :) sorry for delay but it will be worth it... ;) (to all)

Re: Kernel

Nvm the latest pinkman one is the new one lol my mistake...

Sent from my XT1068
[G 2014 Android Development] Hankmg5:
Nice man can't wait !
[G 2014 Android Development] quesain:
No phone calls

Hello and thank you, the rom wors awesome but i got an issue, I can't make calls, the app works like if it was calling but it don't sound. ¿any suggestion to fix this little trouble? My cellphone is XT1063, I'm in México. Thank you!
[G 2014 Android Development] Hankmg5:
Hmm. After testing the ROM for 8 hours I noticed a lot of lag coming from browser and home screen redraws at times but non the less better than stock kk
[G 2014 Android Development] twilysparklez:
Same here:(. On a XT1064.
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Looks like xt1063,4 issues :( sorry but I don't think there's a fix at this time... if there is I will report back ;)

Sent from my XT1068
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Gapps are done, ROM has 8 parts to optimize, will start today :D

Sent from my XT1068
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
So stayed up most the night and finished off MicroMod 11 , it seriously took ages and I'm pretty tired so I'll be off to sleep anytime now.. point being ROM & GAPPS done, and for those who want metrics:

ROM PART 1 CM - 106MB

ROM PART 1 MICRO - 94.8MB

ROM PART 2 CM - 44.3MB

ROM PART 2 MICRO - 39.5MB

ROM TOTAL CM - 231MB

ROM TOTAL MICRO - 212MB

GAPPS PA PICO - 159MB

GAPPS MICRO PICO - 144MB

GAPPS TOTAL PA PICO - 88.8MB

GAPPS TOTAL MICRO PICO - 78.1MB

OVERALL TOTAL CM - 320MB

OVERALL TOTAL MICRO - 291MB

I will upload asap and test asap...

Goodnight all!

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Micro Pico Gapps: https://mega.co.nz/#!UQ50GDLY!mgXz1AssvI-dOBjToSJsdQxQfew1SHmtNV13BIKV8vw

Next up Micro Mod 11 :) uploading...

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] aseef17:
Waiting ;)
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Micro Mod 11: https://mega.co.nz/#!YMZEEToY!3Y_HpPP0H61bZJ5E8SEoIlzxQacxxfgkDWcbs7izPj0

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Will make a dedicated thread later and no branding is applied, all normal stuff, only zip names are renamed for sd card readability... :) enjoy!

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] hkjareda:
Hope this rom will work like MicroKat (my darling rom ever tried on my phone)..... once you told me to prt OptiPop but i know thats not gonna happen you told me that and said that you are working on MicroPop ...but now the MicroMod CM11...really very nice job done by you....testing it and will report about the performance and bugs if any ... keep going man i am a Fan of your decent work i am gonna press thank button fpr the very first time on XDA for you
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Thanks buddy, my daily driver here, no issues :) except camera HDR hands with cm camera.

I will port optipop, thats my aim. :D

Thanks :) the bugs are as same as cm11 and stability is even more solid.

Thanks dude! Its great to know people appreciate my work! :D thanks a lot for the support.

Yay lol :D

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] Hankmg5:
So would this be more stable than the unified cm 11 by luk1337?
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Yes in my opinion :) BTW dedicated thread is up

Edit

Don't try dirtyflashing if you want 100% performance and stability ;)

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] Hankmg5:
Alright downloading.
[G 2014 Android Development] Hankmg5:
Alright so it still has some bugs from cm 11 like that camera bug that Google camera won't solve in your build. The ROM it self is more snappier and more faster than the other one. I think that it would be better with pinkmans kernel. If you fix camera issue in the next patch I will love you (no homo). For now I will revert to the other cm 11 because the Google camera works on that and I use camera everyday use so yea. Good job though, would like to see this ROM being more optimised and stable. Perhaps you can other features in the future. Great work though!
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Google camera works fine for me, you need to have come from stock kitkat remember? ;)

And I kept it simple, if you want pinkman, flash it lol :)

Thanks for the constructive criticism though :D I will try to keep this ROM as excellent as possible.

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] Hankmg5:
No problem just Google camera worked for me whenni came from cm 12
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
O okay, well for me it works 100% fine :) sorry anyways for the issues...

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] Hankmg5:
No need to apologize. Its not ur fault but cm 11 xD. I just have the camera eorkig in the other build. Once the issue is resolved I will migrate to yours
[G 2014 Android Development] hkjareda:
ohk here is the thing i have played with this ROM almost two hours..everything is working very fine and yes it is more stable and much powerfull then CM11 ...for me HDR works ....i am using a third party camera from play sore .Nexus Cam and it naver hang ...by all means this is quite impreesive ROM .. and the one you may fall in love with...once the status goes to stable.....
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Thanks and yeah it is stable BTW xD that's why I choose this build to optimize cause its pretty rock solid. :)

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] hkjareda:
you are hero.... I like your work
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Haha I'm hardly a hero ;) but thanks, that means a lot to me :D

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] :
I'm sorry. Deleted. Wrong thread.?
[G 2014 Android Development] siddharthsharma:
Hat's Off

Dear Pizza_Dox,

You are simply an amazing and most courteous dev I have experienced so far.

This is not meant to flatter you at all, just thought of conveying my regards to you.

I spent around 120 minutes in reading this thread all the way from the beginning till the end (which I usually don't and try to come to the point straight), and realized that you have responded to each and everyone even when the questions are redundant.

It's honestly too much to expect from a dev, as they don't have time to get bugged by the blog.

Hat's off to you.

Keep up the good work, our good graces may do good to you someday.

Cheers! :)
[G 2014 Android Development] siddharthsharma:
BTW... I tried a couple of times but was unable to download the ROM on my PC.

Fate just doesn't wanna let me have the best experience on my Moto G 2nd Gen... or am I doing something wrong?

Can't install the Mega App and download directly on the phone, as I am at work and phone is running on cellular data.

Sharing the screenshot...
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Hey, um well have you tried without incognito mode? Idk , I don't have any mirrors and I'm currently on limited data... Sorry buddy, your gonna have to wait for 2.0, I'm changing isps soon so I can get at least a higher data cap, then I'll build 2.0 and I'll upload it ;)

Hey

Well thank you haha :)

I make it part of my time even though I'm busy to at least go through and reply to everyone's responses, whether they are nice or questions or anything, just keeps my vibes up as well!

Personally I think its the least to expect support from any developer.

It is doing good graces cause cool people like you say something nice and brighten my whole day up and that's just plain awesome! ;)

Cheers m8

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] Hankmg5:
Any hints on what will be coming in 2.0
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Updated apps with optimizations

Possibly change to CM11 base? Or should I stick to stock base? And if cm11 base is used I can theme it :)

Some UI tweaks that disable scheduling (from hoholee) (these actually work unlike the 99% of other init.d tweaks and build.prop tweaks that don't work)

Any suggestions as well for features? :D

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] Vidhanth:
I think stock would be better, we already have a cm11 based rom (micromod).
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
MicroMod is a CM11 Optimized ROM :) MicroKat however is a optimized ROM that's interesting, I'd like to share my setup currently as a ROM I have a lovely CM11 theme and nicely matched my boot animations and etc... :) idk just an idea but thanks for the input, I think I'll keep it stock though since I already optimized CM11 ;)

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] btb55:
I'd vote to keep it stock too. We have a good choice of CM11 and CM12 now and your MicroKat is the only cool stock KK option.

I like that I can use Moto Assist, and other stock apps with this ROM.

Thanks!
[G 2014 Android Development] :
Same here. Stock too. Cm11 is great rom but there are very less stock based roms. I use stock just to multitask better. I use my phone a lot for calls, messages, browsing, music etc. Stock gives me an all in one experience. Cm11 has non working bottom speaker (for me atleast) this affects in call volume...
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
CM11 no in call issue like that for me but I understand stock is more stable. :)

Stock it is :) yes moto apps are nice (I like the camera app)

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] hkjareda:
Please Launch The V2.0 ASAP Cant Wait
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Good to hear but I can't until I change ISP's and guess what, good news is! I'm going to visit my new ISP and get a connection and modem from them which has a higher GB cap and faster DL and ul so expect 2.0 in the next coming 3-4 days... And expect me to be more active as in updating all dat fo shizzle... :)

XD

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] hkjareda:
But Keep It Stock Based or Try to add thems
[G 2014 Android Development] MajorP93:
I have been using this ROM for some time now. I think it's the best Moto G 2014 ROM available for the everyday use.

Keep up the good work. I'm looking forward to version 2.0.
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Sweet :) thanks alot for the support!

2.0 should be available soon since I'm getting my new router today hopefully :D

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] plopingo:
2.0 new features ? changelog ? :p
[G 2014 Android Development] DiamondBond:
Good news, changed ISP's, 85GB cap now and at 16mbps, should get my router and line configured and installed by Tuesday latest :D

Changes:

* Updated apps with optimisations

* Updated pinkman kernel

* Updated su, bash & added sysrw/ro

+ Xposed & GB (optimised versions) built in / flashable addon (yes or no? suggestions?)

- Removed moto migrate and other moto libs

+ Tuned schedulers (thanks to hoholee)

+ Tuned flags (thanks to me)

* Fixed 700mhz min issue

* Changed version info to 2.0 in build.prop

* Increased WiFi scan interval (180ms)

Any suggestions are highly appreciated :)

Sent from my Moto G 2014
[G 2014 Android Development] :
A tweaked synapse app for the pinkman kernel for balancing battery and performance can be included? Xposed Yes ofcourse?. Can we request some third party app optimisations?