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[Android Apps and Games] BigLilyStyle:
I had this problem too. It took me a while to find the setting to close folder after launch - I don't know why. Changing this in the folder setting for one folder applied it to all folders and now all works perfectly. I love this app, thank you so much for it!
[Android Apps and Games] 31pl:
hello, i really like the app but I was not able to find the option to change backup directory, so I could make my backup file automatically save in my cloud. Is there such thing?

I'm aware of the fact, that I can export backup manually. I thought, maybe through "backup data" with a pre chosen default directory chosen with e.g. total commander cloud integration plugin, to be able to just press that button and data will automatically be backed up to this folder in my cloud, while having internet access.

just besides:

I wondered, why there are so many really nice ways to modify the skin in the folders, but it is not possible to modify the skin for the drawer/main app itself. Maybe you consider also a blurring function, so that when you open a folder widget on the home screen and have enabled transparency you can blur the sharpness (like in picture editing) so that the wallpaper shines through but is no distraction. I think that could add a real nice finish and make it look even more professional (as if it was part of the devices preinstalled OS).

thankful for the app

greets p
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Hello and welcome!

That option was available many versions of Android ago :-( For technical reasons (e.g., JINA uses symlinks and recursively zips the contents of various directories), the backup file needs to be created in a filesystem where JINA has full control.

With the limitations on storage access and the tightening of permissions that an app can request introduced over time, I had to remove the option to choose the folder to use private storage and had to split the backup process into 2 steps, the ones you know.

Regarding the drawer skins, it's just that folders were introduced much later. I have always intended to unify the management of backgrounds, but free time is increasingly scarce...

When you talk about the blur feature, do you mean the background inside the folder or the external home background?
[Android Apps and Games] 31pl:
Hey there,

thank you for your answer. I really sppreciste your work. And yes, free time is a rare good, so the germans would say.

I first noticed, that I could need this featureb when I changed to the transparent light skin, because then it got really jard to focus on the App drawer, while having the homescreen fully organized with the widgets snd other app tiles. It is "a bit" of a distraction ^^ . Then, when I've been setting up the look and feel of the folders background (by opening a homescreen widget) and I wanted it to be maximized, I noticed that I was confused by my homescreen, too, when having a bit of transparency. A blur effect could make the difference here.

just attached an example woth comparison for the folders in full screen.

I added also one screenshot of the app drawer in transparent light. I think when the workflow should be fluently, the dmallest amount of distraction is needed. Now I have the bluegrey skin, thats ok for me, too.

There is a little thing i noticed too I was wondering why I could filtwr for uninstalled apps but not for indtslled spps. Thinking of the future having a ton of crossed out apps in JINA it could be nice if I would be able to see only instslled apps.
[Android Apps and Games] 31pl:
But what I find the most importsnt is, to be able to add apps , when navigating inside of folder widget.

P, over
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
JINA by default doesn't show the uninstalled apps on the list (even if there is a setting to show them). The funnel filter works as a temporarily switch to show them (if the settings is not active) or to show "only" them (if the setting is active and they are shown by default).

With regard to the blur i have to investigate: i cannot blur the launcher background image because i have no way to read it. The folder background is an image/solid color with alpha, it doesn't know anything about what is displayed behind. Maybe i can simulate a blur effect adding some random noise, don't know, I'll try...
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
It is possible by expanding the bottom toolbar, don't you see an up arrow in the lower left corner?
[Android Apps and Games] 31pl:
Ok, I found in the advanced settings --> App list content -> Show uninstalled apps and disabled it. Don't know why I checked this setting ^^

The arrow in the folder widget was due to my design settings nearly invisible. But found that, too thank you very much! :)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Ok i'll add an option ;)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
1.0.5 beta is ready to test and available for direct download on post #2.

FIxed desktop folder position problems

Added option to exit fullscreen after first back
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
exit means close app or send it to background?

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[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
means close... i tought you didn't want to press twice but reading again i think i have misunderstood :)
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
Sort of .. to prevent opening times I though about just warping it to background. Closing will also do ;)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Ok guys, another beta, but this one is a little different.

No new features added (except the "send to background" instead of closing the app as [MENTION=1209212]daniello8[/MENTION] suggested). I'm just trying to improve the first launch speed, when jina collects apps information and categories just after installation.

The apk size is increased because a preloaded app db is included.

To keep the size as small as possibile i have also optimized some libraries...hope to not have removed too much :)

Indeed, during the first launch or after a full db reset, you should notice a speed change and the next web scraping phase should be much faster.

As side effect, you could notice a small increment in ram usage, and maybe some little lag during the app list scrolling. This is because this version doesn't compress anymore app icons but uses the original ones (so icons should look better in jina).

This version will not be published on beta market so if you don't like (or lags and memory become a problem) you can uninstall and download the previous version directly from market.

Need feedback on speed and lags on different devices.

IMPORTANT: you need to uninstall the current version before installing this one
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
big like! one small thing that I noticed is that the launcher title falls into place each time I call the app. Hope you understand what I mean... just cosmetics

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category browser and app statistics sometimes have a gray font in the fly in menu. maybe there is a reason?!

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[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
yes i just noticed the same on my nexus 7, obviously it is not the same on my phone and on emulators ... damn android :)

no they shouldn't be grayed, i'll try to reproduce. This version only or also the previous ones?
[Android Apps and Games] vault1965:
Well I have tested it through basic features and lag is there without doubt, but it gets better after some time. If you can find a soft spot with a bit of a less lag, this is a candidate for publishing in market. My device is HTC one M7.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Thank you. Can i ask how many apps you have installed?
[Android Apps and Games] vault1965:
Exactly 265.
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
not 100% sure but I'd say also previous

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437 scrolling is not 100% smooth but still OK. S5 with Lollipop.

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[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Let's try this one, still experimental and not published on beta market.

Fixed the bouncing title (at least on my tablet) and introduced a lazy loading strategy for app icons.

Should be smoother and should use less memory but i'm not sure if you like the lazy loading effect on scroll.

No need to uninstall the previous one
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
interesting look .. I don't mind it. It seems to me though that the icons once loaded aren't cached .. is that the way it should be?
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Actually they are cached but the cache size is limited to a percentage of the available memory, i can tune it
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
don't worry too much it's working well already :)

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IMO the area for the app menu is too big. when I press the app icon it doesn't launch... not intuitive. I don't remember.. why wasn't long press used to get the additional options?

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I see because of multi select. Maybe limit the sensitive area for the options to 25% of the icon or less?!

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[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
You are right. Try this one
[Android Apps and Games] vault1965:
Last version is almost perfect. I love the way apps scroll in sidebar. Only two minor cosmetic things:

When you slide on side of screen, for a moment handler is visible and it does not look nice.

When you activate sidebar, you can see that app takes over the whole screen for a moment.

Hope that these two things are not too difficult to fix.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Ok for the handler it is not difficult.

About the second point, you notice always or only when you slide the edge of the screen?
[Android Apps and Games] vault1965:
It is always noticeable. Not much but you can see it, especially as it overlap status bar for a briefest moment. Nothing big but I can see that you strive for the perfection ?
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Oh well perfection is very very far :)

I'm trying to replicate, meanwhile you can try this build with handler hidden. There is still a visual indicator as user feedback when the hot spot is activated
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
welcome :)
[Android Apps and Games] vault1965:
Nice, handler is gone and animation of opening sidebar is smooth

If you could implement same animation when you exit sidebar without launching anything it would be perfect.

As far as effect on screen, as Lollipop colour status bar with same colour as app that is launched, effect is visible as my status bar is transparent. So I do believe that nothing can be done but it is OK as it is.
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
hidden? Handler is quite dominant now when you use sidebar everywhere.

Why don't settings also apply to sidebar? one can assume that I don't want to see categories in both... as an example.

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I figure that seeing the handler is sort of useful. How about a color picker with opacity slider ;) this way you could also make it invisible.

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ha ha.. I messed up.. you guys were talking about the jina handler I guess. I was talking about the active spot to pull out the side bar. Sorry for any confusion I may have caused!

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[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
hehe i was quite selling all my android devices to buy a nokia lumia :D

ok for the hot spot customizable color, i'll add a color picker.

about settings: the sidebar content is customizable field by field using the sidebar specific settings that's why the fullscreen preference is ignored
[Android Apps and Games] ew:
Great application - I just discovered this.

I was wondering if I could submit the following possible enhancements for your consideration:

Provide the ability to group shortcuts as well as applications

Provide the ability to assign an application to more than one group

Provide the ability to add a launcher shortcut to a group.

Instead of automatically categorizing applications on initialization, provide that as an option. This way, the user can totally use their own groups instead of the default

It is entirely possible that these are features that I missed.

Thank you for making this available.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
hi and welcome.

I'll add to the wishlist. The db structure to use personal tags as alternative to the rigid categories structure already exists but i never finished a decent implementation.

It is time to start working again on this :)

thanks for the suggestions

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[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
when the app is sent to background the hidden filter is not switched off.

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[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
and how about SU for uninstalling system apps?

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[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
yes good Idea, i'll add su support in the next release

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[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
did you notice the hidden filter thing?

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[Android Apps and Games] vault1965:
I have found small bug in latest test version, sidebar everywhere settings does not stick after reboot. You need to enable it every time.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Sorry for the late answer but this weekend it was my wife's birthday and i was fobidden to use electronics things too often :)

On my phone no filter is reset when the app goes to background, would you like to reset?
[Android Apps and Games] vault1965:
Wherever I reboot my phone, screen edge in Jina defaults to disabled. Option is sidebar everywhere. It works fine till reboot, than I need to enable it again as it do not stick.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Yes i know thanks, i didn't implement as a boot listener yet because i wanted be sure not to brick phones with the sidebar everywhere enabled :)

next update i'll implement
[Android Apps and Games] vault1965:
Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
I assume it makes sense for the hidden category (only that one) otherwise you couldn't use it to keep things secret. Anything that switches away from Jina or switches off the display should reset that.

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[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Ok i agree
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
1.0.6d beta is ready to test and available for direct download on post #2.

Added option to start Sidebar Everywhere at boot

Sidebar Everywhere hotspot color customizable

Added french translation (greetings to Hervé)

Improved app icons loading strategy

Hidden filter is now reset when Jina is sent to background

Su support will be added in the next release, hope i didn't forget anything :)
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
hidden is reset when you bring the app back ie activate it again. So you see the hidden stuff for a moment.

Screen off doesn't set it back.

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[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
1.0.6f beta is ready to test and available for direct download on post #2.

System apps can be now uninstalled on rooted devices

Hidden filters reset improved

The filter is now reset on screen off but, when you switch on again, you could notice a quick flash of the old hidden list (1/4 of my devices).

This is a release candidate, if there are no major bug reports, tomorrow will go live.

It would be great if someone could test on real non rooted device... i know it will be hard to find

:)
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
system files are uninstalled but not deleted in db

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filter reset not working when I toggle home and app

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zooming in grid view not working well. Icons scale after I let go.. so size is hardly controllable.

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[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Are you sure you don't have the "show uninstalled apps" flag set in the preferences?

Ok i'll reset whenever the window loose focus

at present, zooming the grid views is a discreet process (fixed steps) not a continous one. i'll check if that can be changed fast
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
It is not checked
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Can you try to reboot and check if after reboot the app is shown in jina as uninstalled (red cross icon) or missing (question mark icon)?

Another question, after uninstall using jina, was the app still present in your default launcher also if not launchable anymore?
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
before boot:

android icon in jina

regular icon in launcher

app not startable

... now I will do a reboot

Questionmark in jina

no icon in app launcher
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Try this one, i have also changed the zoom gesture behaviour
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
Zoom is better Questionmark is still there

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[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Also for new uninstalls? For the old ones try to uninstall again using jina
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
Repeat uninstall seems to work. BTW .. the toast Min Zoom is reached is quite nagging and pops up several times even after zoom is not min anymore.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
1.0.7 beta is ready to test and available for direct download on post #2.

Android 5+ app stats usage

Recent app list included in sort by "last used" view also if launched outside Jina
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Ok, i have removed the toast in the latest beta
[Android Apps and Games] vault1965:
Latest version in market is a bit slow when loading app icons. Sometimes it even takes couple of seconds before icons appear.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New name guys, i need to change something because on market JINA is suggested by Google similar to:

a Tv Remote

a Calendar

an app to install CA and websites certificates (FS Cert Installer)

Great algorithm Google.... :mad:

Goobye Jina Fs App Organizer, welcome to JINA App Organizer Evolution

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[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Which order by criteria are you using? You are on lollipop right?
[Android Apps and Games] vault1965:
Most used, and it seems that is not working right as before. App order is just not right. Yes I am on Lollipop.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Ok did jina ever show a message asking to be granted on "stats on app usage" access (see attachment)?

if you never saw such message, can you try to switch the sortby criteria to "last updated" and then back to "most used"?

Please note that Most used and Less used counters are now provided on lollipop by android. That means that counters start on first boot and are incremented when an app is launched also outside jina (while with previous jina the counter was incremented only for apps launched by jina). Could be that the difference you noticed?

In the app detail screen the Launch counter is shown, please let me know if the number is consistent with the order position or not.
[Android Apps and Games] vault1965:
Permissions are OK, the thing is that selection of display options are not consistent. Only after checking different filters it will settle and display property app list. There is still that moment of blank sidebar before it displays icons. Hope this helps.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Can you try with the current production version 1.0.6f (i send in attachment because from market you will keep receiving the 1.7 as beta tester) and check if it is different? You have to uninstall 1.7 before downgrading.

[MENTION=1209212]daniello8[/MENTION] latest beta 1.7 has the same problems on your phone?

and [MENTION=224084]umetnic[/MENTION]? where are you hiding? we miss you :)
[Android Apps and Games] vault1965:
This version is perfect ? I would recommend to keep this one as latest beta or even production version.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Thank you for the patience :)

It is really strange... i didn't change any logic in the sortby spinner and the lazy loading routine is exactly the same :rolleyes:

About the counters 1.7 leverage on android stats and should be much more accurate.

The only thing that comes to my mind is an overhead when reading system stats that slows down the icon loading process and gives you the feeling of unresponsive view switches.

I need more feedbacks on different loollipop devices.
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
Will be back next week.. if there's still an issue I can jump in :)

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[Android Apps and Games] vault1965:
OK, got more time now. 1.7 was completely inconsistent in filtering most used versus last used apps. It would even change order completely after selecting different options in filtering.

This is not the case in 1.6f. Also, app is much more responsive in 1.6f than in 1.7 (at least on my phone) I do believe however that this is because there is something wrong in filtering options

so app is not responsive immediately in showing icons.

Let me know
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Can you try this tester app and check if results are consistents and how many ms are shown on both columns?

First column is sorted by launch count while the second one is sort by last used.

If results of tester app (app-debug.apk) are ok, you can try this new beta
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
did you have a chance to try the tester app or the new beta [MENTION=3315215]vault1965[/MENTION] ?
[Android Apps and Games] vault1965:
Sorry mate, got some very stressful days at work, will try to test during weekend...
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Ok don't worry, take your time
[Android Apps and Games] vault1965:
OK, found some time yesterday evening and the version that you posted for testing is perfect. No lags in showing icons, app order is correct and it is consistent in changing views.

I would say that we have a winner :good:
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Thank you very much!

I did change the way android stats are stored on Jina db. Previous version performed a loop writing each app info inside the loop while this version perform a single write at the end of the loop reducing a lot the write overhead.

That could explain the slow icons loading but i didn't fully understand why sorting results were not consistents. Both ways were wrapped in transactions so both ways should have been consistent, i have to investigate more....
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
1.0.8 beta is ready to test and available for direct download on post #2.

Fixed 3 dot menu not showing in Category Browser view

Improved French translation
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Sorry for the self spam guys :)

i'm experimenting stripped down flavours of JINA. If you want, have a look at the new Kids Folder thread

or directly on Market

Kids Folder
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
1.0.9 beta is ready to test and available for direct download on post #2.

Random game pick
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
1.0.9a beta is ready to test and available for direct download on post #2.

Random game pick added to the sidebar

Change icons for All Games and All Apps category shortcuts

Improved French translation
[Android Apps and Games] vault1965:
Both latest beta and market version are force closing as soon as i activate sidebar. Let me know if I can help, latest version that is working fine is 1.0.8
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
I'm sorry :(

Does it propose to send a crash report when fc? If so, you can send and i'll see the stack trace.

I'll attach also the 1.0.8 so if you want to downgrade you can (you must uninstall before downgrade)
[Android Apps and Games] vault1965:
I have already downgraded, will see if i can provide log for you. It does not provide option to send log, i need to capture it differently...
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
someone else experienced a fc on sidebar launch (1.0.9 or 1.0.9a)?
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Ok don't worry. If you have a chance, you can try to install Logcat Extreme but don't keep it running because it will slow down the phone, start it just before launching the sidebar and stop after the fc