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[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
v. 2.1.4 ga585

Workaround for the "Screen overlay detected" message when accessing permission (Samsung and Nexus security updates).

It is a workaround because, as far as i know, there is no real solution until google and samsung don't fix the problem.

New option in the Sidebar Notification to quick toggle on off the handler and bypass the "Screen overlay detected" message while granting permissions (sidebar)

Sidebar handler is automatic disabled (and re-enabled) when is Jina who asks for their permissions (general)

Fixed Tags manual sorting ignored when adding tags to apps from app details (general)

Stability improvement (general)

Need feedbacks on different devices guys... on android 6x please try to revoke all grants to Jina and let Jina ask for them again.

If you have permissions issues with other apps, while the Sidebar Everywhere is active, use the notification icon to temporarily "hide" the Sidebar overlay view.

Let me know
[Android Apps and Games] Trasd:
Automatic Grouping of Non-Tagged Apps

I did a few searches and came up empty, so forgive me if this has been requested, or if it can be done and I haven't figured it out!

I would like to see a way, with a dynamic desktop folder, to automatically group all apps without a tag into that folder.

Let me explain: I like to use my own tags exclusively, so I turn off the fetching of Google Play categories. When I install new apps, since they will have no tags attached, I'd like them to automatically show up in a desktop folder that is reserved specifically for apps with no tags, so I can decide what to do with them from there. Also, I leave apps there until I fully test them and decide whether to keep them or not. I do this now with Folder Organizer, which I will be replacing with Jina. Once the app is assigned a tag, it will automatically no longer show up in the non-tag grouping.

Thanks.

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The current selection of sources has legitimate choices and an Unknown. For developers, to help keep their own apps straight, I think another source choice could be very useful. It doesn't have to be customizable, it could just be called "Special" or "Other."

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Hello and welcome!

You are right, there is not yet such kind of dynamic desktop folder but i can add it for sure very very soon.

Meanwhile you can use the preset filter "without tags" (or "with disabled tags") in the drawer to achieve a similar result.
[Android Apps and Games] yanyan0505:
It looks quite fancy:)
[Android Apps and Games] Trasd:
Wow, quick response! Thank you.

I think adding the no-tag filter capability to JINA home shortcuts screen would be wonderful and useful for other purposes as well.

I look forward to the addition and, I think I can get rid of those other apps, now.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New v. 2.1.6ga588

Improved speed dial menu positioning (drawer/sidebar/folders)

Tags management and folders screen padding increased in manual sort mode to make easier the vertical scroll (drawer/folders)

Fixed fc when there are no launchable apps at all in the db

Stability improvement (general)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Back from holidays guys :(

to not think about it I'm doing some experiments with the app icon, if someone wants to take a look these are the proposals so far:

https://goo.gl/forms/pVfeexRgWJSQf9QI3

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[Android Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
Welcome Back :) Hope you've got a nice holiday!

I've voted :good:
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Hi! yep, very nice holidays just a little shorter than I would have liked ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Trasd:
Recursive Folders

When you can, could you please make folders recursive? Basically, folders can contain entries to other folders.

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] Trasd:
Exclusive Hide

I did find quite a few hits on this next suggestion when I searched, but none quite covered what I'm looking for. I think a very specific tag (or category, or group, or a simple boolean like how an app can be classified as a game or not) that categorically hides an app entry from any interaction in JINA (except for the hide\unhide UI) would be a great addition.

There always seems to be an app or two (or ten) that defies being categorized, like leftover manufacturer apps that are never used, but are required to be installed by the devices branding. Removing them from sight is usually the best way to deal with these things.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
There is already such possibility, you can add any shortcut inside a folder, including a nested jina folder shortcut.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Thanks for the suggestion but i'm not sure to understand completely, what are you talking about is not the "hide app" function (app details->more or multiselection) ?
[Android Apps and Games] Trasd:
Thanks. I'll have to look again. I missed it. :o

Edited

I got it. I just didn't make the connection before. Thanks, I probably wouldn't have tried again if I didn't already know it was a feature.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Maybe it is not quite intuitive, i will add a dedicated direct entry in the folders menu.
[Android Apps and Games] Trasd:
I'm usually pretty good at finding that kind of thing, so something dedicated might not be a bad idea. But then again, I probably would have looked harder if I had known it was already possible.
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
You're app has evolved amazingly well .. good job :) One thing I would like to mention is launch time .. I perceive it as quite long until the app starts. Of course it's only moments .. but it would be perfect if it launched snappier.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Hi Daniel, glad to read you again!

Yes i know, especially the sidebar start speed must be improved. I'm doing a lot of experiments in this direction and i hope to get some results sooner or later... better sooner :)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New beta v. 2.1.7b590

New dynamic folder for untagged apps (folders)

New direct menu entry for nested folders creation (folders)

Removed unused resource to reduce a bit the apk size.... hope i didn't remove too much :fingers-crossed:
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New beta v. 2.1.7b592

Improved apps desktop shortcuts icon quality (general)

New Sidebar content sizing algorithm: let me know if you notice any performance difference (sidebar)

Original install date is now preserved when an uninstalled app is reinstalled (general)

App details screen resized to prevent cropping of the tags area first line: you will notice on small screen devices (general)
[Android Apps and Games] Trasd:
Small, Low Priority Issues

Small, low priority issues that made JINA a little bit confusing in the beginning:

The Quick Settings and Advanced Settings on the same menu level.

When in a dark theme, sliders are highlighted when they are to the left (off) and not right (on).

Favorites doesn't show up as a tab when searching in the sidebar.

Max, these aren't necessarily issues that need to be addressed, but things I've noticed in getting used to JINA. For new apps (new to me), I tend to keep a running list of issues. I still haven made the transition to JINA, though I'm getting close.

I've used Folder Organizer since I started using Android, 5 or 6 years ago, and Swapps (and just recently Glovebox) for a few years. I was dissatisfied with Swapps, so switched to Glovebox and lately, have become disenchanted with Folder Organizer.

Before I commit, I need to make sure JINA is stable, isn't going to be abandoned, and its developer (you, Max) is amicable (which you are).

I'm on my tablet at least 4 hours a day, so everything has to flow. So far, JINA seems (almost) just right!
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Thank you very much!

As a developer, I'm always hungry for feedbacks/sugestions from users. There are lot of things i don't notice because when i look at the Jina UI i'm too much used to it and there are very different use cases: someone use almost exclusively folders, someone else always start from the Tags Management screen while other ones use only the Sidebar or the Drawer.... it depends of course on personal taste and needs.

I have to think about the "favourites", you are not the first one suggesting a different way to manage them.
[Android Apps and Games] Trasd:
Custom Shortcuts

I read a lot of technical PDFs, which I keep in my programming folder. While looking for a way to add these shortcuts to a folder, I ran into three problems:

I had to apply my custom icons two times to my custom shortcuts to make them stick.

I had to add the custom shortcuts to the desktop twice before they showed up.

I could not figure out how to add my custom shortcuts to a folder.

Any help would be appreciated.

EDIT: I figured out the last one (#3). I didn't think to go through the desktop folder itself. Also, I'm finding I need to apply most customs icons, and folders, twice, to make them stick.
[Android Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
Good to see more feedback

Good to see more feedback, I'm still playing and love this app.

My sugesstion (more a wish); other views for the folders.

Instead of tiles (which can be zoomed very good) a LIST view.

instead of:

[] [] []

something like:

___

___

___

Hope it's clear enough
[Android Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
If you've got trouble creating shortcuts you can try the app MoreShortcuts (i'm using it many times), great app created by Chyk.

Freeware and easy to use: Play Store Link

You can use it on your homescreen but also INSIDE Jina
[Android Apps and Games] Trasd:
Thanks, but I have no trouble with shortcuts! I use X-plore for regular shortcuts and QuickShortcutMaker (which gives me access to Activities as well) for speciality shortcuts.

The problem was not creating the shortcuts, it was integrating them into JINA, but as I said, I figured that one out.

EDIT: But, More Shortcuts looks nice, I think I'm going to try that one out! Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
Another tip: For files you can also give Total Commander (free) a try, powerfull filemanager that can create shortcuts to folders and files.

Also many addon's available (LAN, dropbox):

- PlayStore

- HomePage
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Very to glad to see how Jina functionalities can be integrated with other apps, new ideas may come!

It is a security check, to prevent you add wrong icons or shortcuts :cool: Joking of course ;)

The first problem was almost certainly caused by a missed refresh in the shortcuts management screen. I fixed it in the coming very very soon b593.

The second problem is a bit more strange , did you see the message "Done. Your launcher... blah blah.." during the first attempt?
[Android Apps and Games] Trasd:
No, I don't get any messages and, it does it for all JINA shortcuts I add to the desktop. As far as I know, this behavior started with the last update.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New beta v. 2.1.7b593

Sortby spinner icons (general) DIFFERENT ICON PROPOSALS ARE VERY WELCOME!

New sortby bottom-sheet: long press tags filter (sidebar)

New option to disable Sidebar opening animation: default disabled on pre-lollipop (sidebar)

Reduced again apk size (general)

Warning, this release was built against a new android library version, please tell me if you notice any strange or unwanted effect (almost but not only on the ui)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Hmmm, 2 questions:

1 - which launcher are you using?

2 - does it happen also if there are no custom icons involved? if it happens only with custom icons, can you send me an example of custom icon? (i need exactly the size and the format you use on the phone for the shortcut)
[Android Apps and Games] Trasd:
Wow, so many responses! Nice to see. I'll try to get to all concerning me, but we are in the middle of packing for a cross-country move.

Nice, but I've been using the paid (and donate) versions of Root Explorer and X-plore for years and, though I use a and own a few others, these are my preferred file managers.

Thanks!

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First, the problems are now fixed, though it did place the new desktop icons on top of the old icons at first (I cleared the old icons since they were for testing anyway).

Security check, huh? Wow, great "feature," LOL :laugh:

Yes, I saw all the proper and expected toast messages. I use Nova Launcher Pro (I'm not running a beta Nova at the moment, either).

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1. Nova Pro (see my last post).

2. It happened with both built-in and custom icons.

The problem is fixed now, though.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New beta v. 2.1.7b595

Fixed sortby spinner and bottom-sheet missed sync (sidebar)

New look and feel for the first run tutorial (general)

Bug fixing (general)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New release candidatev. 2.1.7ga596

minor translation improvements (general)

bug fixing (general)
[Android Apps and Games] Trasd:
I still think you should let us donate some money! I feel like I'm cheating.

BTW, are you planning on adding the special "Hide" category for hiding unwanted (but not uninstallable) apps?

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] Trasd:
With nested folders, there should be a quick exit instead of having to back out of each and every folder one at a time. For example, if folders are all tied together (parent, sub-folder, sub-folder, etc.) and it takes 5 folders to find the proper app, after launching and exiting the specific app, all 5 levels of sub-folders must be closed one at a time to get back to a clean desktop. Plus, the folders stack on to of each other.

My recommendation would be to only have one folder opened at a time so they don't stack. When a sub-folder is opened, the parent folder should close.

The breadcrumb Back key is useful, but there should be a way to dismiss the entire folder chain at once. I would recommend the Back key still be used to backtrack through previous folders, but a tap on the desktop, or an Exit All button (on folder title bars), could be used to close the currently opened folder(s) and erase the folder path. One tap to return to a clean desktop.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Sorry for the delay guys but i had the woderful idea to install openwrt on my home router and... ehm... well... i hope that I am able to program android better than what i can do with networking :D

Yes got it, i'll modify the folders behaviour, [MENTION=628601]bigchrizzieboy[/MENTION] will be ok for you or should i make it optional?
[Android Apps and Games] Trasd:
Committed!

I have now totally and completely committed to JINA! So, what does this mean? Well, I was using two separate apps before: Glovebox (I used Swapps before this) and Folder Organizer. They have now both been backed up, then removed. As of yesterday, I am completely dependent on JINA (and Nova) for launching and managing my apps.

JINA does nearly everything my other two apps did, but better. There are some differences, of course, but I am quite happy with my decision. I've used Folder Organizer for as long as I've been using Android (for about 6 years) and a sidebar launcher since they were introduced to this OS.

I fully recommend and endorse JINA. It's fantastic at what it does, as fast as any other, ad free, and comes at no cost.

Thanks, Max!
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
Interesting .. on my daughters new phone the letter bar doesn't work. The bar itself reacts normally but the app view doesn't change according to the selected letter.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Hi Daniel, can you check if there is an installed app (first or last) with the name that begins with an "unusual" letter?
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
Indeed .. something is fishy.

First app is "Taschenlampe" .. which is the system's torch app.

The second app is called "#LollaDE"

The third "Bitmoji"

So I guess the Lollathing confuses Jina?!
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Really strange... some time ago there was a problem with an app named "∞ Infinity Loop" because jina didn't expect the ∞ symbol in the app name.

Now it is managed, as well as the # and the diacritics, the problem should be elsewhere..

Can you send me a log dump just after swiping over the letterbar? To directly upload the system log to my server, you can go to the about menu and long press on the mobeedom logo.

Another test could be to hide Taschenlampe and check if the letterbar behavior changes.
[Android Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
Checking the developement during my Holiday trip.

Answering your question regarding the folder View.

It would be nice to have some layouts to choose from on every folder.

Hope i'm clear enough, otherwise i'll make some pictures in about 2 weeks (when i'm behind a computer again)
[Android Apps and Games] daniello8:
Yes .. hiding Taschenlampe helps. It seems to me that there is a leading space before the "T" .. probably this messes things up.

In fact even if there is a space .. I'd sort it to "T" and ignore the space.

Is this something you want to look in to?
[Android Apps and Games] blackscorpio06:
Feature request: auto launch app

In the sidebar or launcher, if the search leads to only one result, auto launch the filtered app. May be we can have setting to control auto launch.

What you think:

Feasible?

good or bad?

TIA.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Not sure to fully understand but now enjoy your holidays, jina can wait!!! :)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Don't know, i think that this could lead to a lot of unwanted launches... if you know exactly the name of what you are looking for and if you never do typing errors it could be ok but otherwise....
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
OMG we developers we are really strange :)

I downloaded the Taschenlampe and i found that the leading space is not really a whitespace (whitespaces are managed) but an unicode 2 chars "non breaking space" (not managed).

I'll add the fix in the next beta, meanwhile you can rename the app to remove the leading space (app details, tab more).
[Android Apps and Games] FerroFlux:
Any luck with the Trebuchet style horizontal letter scroll? Still enjoying the app!
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Not yet ready but it won't be long :fingers-crossed:
[Android Apps and Games] FerroFlux:
Awesome! Looking forward to it!!
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New beta v. 2.1.8b598

fixed letterbar not working if an app name starts with a "nbs" unicode (general)

fixed tags filters not applied after an orientation change (sidebar/folders)

fixed double activation and fc on theme chooser on some devices (general)

other bug fixing (general)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New beta v. 2.1.8b599

improved app drawer/tags management back stack logic (sidebar/drawer)

single tap on the desktop to close all nested folders (folders)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New beta v. 2.1.8b601

optional horizontal letterbar: drawer listview only for now (drawer)

Let me know if it works [MENTION=1055878]FerroFlux[/MENTION] ;)
[Android Apps and Games] FerroFlux:
Awesome job, works really well!! :)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New beta v. 2.1.8b602

horizontal letterbar on drawer icons view + bugfixing (drawer)

optional wide sidebar activation hotspot: helps on samsung edges (sidebar)

single click on apps count to show the sort-by menu (folders)

improved first install ui (general)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New beta v. 2.1.9b605

new experimental query cache: should improve sidebar and drawer opening speed, give me feedbacks (advanced options drawer)

new experimental dial menu on shortcuts, now it is possibile to move shortcuts between folders (folders)

bugfixing (general)

Warning, this release was built against a new android library version, please tell me if you notice any strange or unwanted effect (almost but not only on the ui).
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New beta v. 2.1.9b606

swipe up on the bottom toolbar/last row to enter search mode/swipe down over the "search" field to exit search mode (sidebar)

new option to hide the sidebar search button (sidebar)

bugfixing (general)
[Android Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
My wish explained more (with screenshots)

Back from Holiday and maked some screenshots from another app i used.

What i'm wishing for in FOLDERS is another look; please make it posible to choose for every folder (under the options from the folder seems to be a good place):

Full screen

resize folder

choose view (just a tought)

Add nested folder

Add a shortcut

Something like:

- GRID (already exists)

- LIST (this would be awesome)

- 2 COLUMNS (if posible)

Under here some screenshots (click to enlarge)

- GRID (already exists):

- LIST:

- 2 COLUMS:

I think later options in the list-view can be added (icon size, font size seperated from each other?).

The reason? A big list with contacts that have a long name to scroll within, internet favorites, direct links to documents with long names. A list view can be more comfortable in some situations.

Questions? ask them here or p.m. me

Thanks for reading and offcourse the great developing.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
Ok, got it, very clear thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New beta v. 2.1.9b607

New back stack management (drawer/sidebar)

Query cache enabled by default for new installations (drawer/sidebar)

New optional sidebar everywhere activation effect (sidebar)

Fixed hidden attribute not preserved on not launchable apps refresh (general)

bugfixing (general)

Please give a try to new sidebar everywhere activation (sidebar advanced options).

I need to know if the animation is fluid because it will be used for a future "secret" sidebar function :cowboy:
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New beta v. 2.1.9b609

Back stack management and cache integrated (drawer/sidebar)

Various options linked to the new state managemeent are reset to default value with this build (drawer/sidebar)

App stats are now applied asynchronously when ordering by usage (drawer/sidebar)

Added pull to refresh gesture for sidebar and drawer (drawer/sidebar)

bugfixing (general)

Huge internal changes speed oriented.

From the second launch onwards, the opening speed should be improved significantly for both drawer and sidebar (also for the heaviest sorting criteria usage stats related).

Just hope not to have cached too much. :fingers-crossed:
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New beta v. 2.1.9b611

bugfixing (general)

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Back stack management and cache integrated (drawer/sidebar)

Various options linked to the new state managemeent are reset to default value with this build (drawer/sidebar)

App stats are now applied asynchronously when ordering by usage (drawer/sidebar)

Added pull to refresh gesture for sidebar and drawer (drawer/sidebar)
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
New rc v. 2.1.9 build614

bugfixing (general)

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Back stack management and cache integrated (drawer/sidebar)

Various options linked to the new state managemeent are reset to default value with this build (drawer/sidebar)

App stats are now applied asynchronously when ordering by usage (drawer/sidebar)

Added pull to refresh gesture for sidebar and drawer (drawer/sidebar)
[Android Apps and Games] Trasd:
The Best and Improving

Features added and improvements made right before my eyes!

Thanks, Max! Nice progress. My main tablet is still using JINA exclusively for desktop folder and sidebar app management. To date, I have not regretted the decision to replace Glovebox and Folder Organizer with your software.

As always, anything I can do to help, just ask.
[Android Apps and Games] bambapin:
v 2.1.9ga is live

[IMG="Get on Google Play"]https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mobeedom/appmessages/master/english_get.png[/IMG]

Roadmap for the v 2.2.0 :

- new folders views as suggested by [MENTION=628601]bigchrizzieboy[/MENTION]

- something totally new on the sidebar

:cool: