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[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Oh guys, has been such a long day with lots of impressions and information. I'm trying to catch some sleep now and update you, as soon as possible.

Thanks for your patience! :)

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[Saygus V²] Oupss:
Don't worry, we haven't received any email yet so I guess tomorrow is the news day. :D
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
The day's not over in Utah yet; they've got 9 more hours.

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/salt-lake-city
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
You can take my word for it. The email will be sent out to everyone who has pre ordered very soon. Only a question of hours now.

Passed all your questions to Chad today, who is the CEO of Saygus - as you all here may already know - and also informed him about the huge communication issue.

Sent with my RAZR HD now Free
[Saygus V²] Oupss:
Go rest for tomorrow! I think there are a lot more things shown at CeBIT

And thank you for your time with Saygus team.
[Saygus V²] Jan de Mor:
thanxs!
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
The silence is deafening...
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Suggest getting used to it. It's pretty apparent they have no interest in giving a sh*t about keeping their word. I'm almost tempted to cancel just so I don't run into a situation where I love the phone but then need support somehow and actually have to need their support
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
This is so very depressing to watch...
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
Not at all surprised
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Some good news from my side anyways.

I've almost finished the collection of new answers&details and some images from my visit today.

One thing I can tell you so far: The VAT issue is really a big point on their list and they're figuring out right now, how to get this fixed.

Lets see the delay of the email like this:

The more hours are passing by, the higher the probability gets, that the email will get delivered within the next hour. :D

Sorry for the joke.

But NOW I definitely have to go and get some sleep, as it's 700km back home tomorrow. Good night!

Dreaming of waking up tomorrow morning having THE email (for which we all are impatiently waiting for) in my box - still keeping the faith.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
[MENTION=5122214]andreas5232[/MENTION] You've been truly great--thank you! Saygus should hire you to handle all their communications; you're clearly much better at it than they are! :)
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Maybe I'm destined to get the blackberry passport after all. Lol
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3YxcGKa4QA

a video showing hz0 from a few years ago.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Hi Boom515. Please hang on as they tried to get you the Saygus V-squared as early as possible to your hands.

I believe it will be much better than any phones you are planning to get now.

I urge you to give them another chance. They are trying their very best.

Thank you.
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
If they were trying their best they would not post that they will be posting news and not do it. They have done this many times now... You think they would learn... :silly::silly:
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
I know it must be difficult for them and all, and most of the patrons here are trying to be sympathetic to what Saygus is dealing with, but seriously, an update after a month and a half since preorder is not too much to expect. Especially when they say they're going to and they just don't.

I feel like a mushroom. We've been kept in the dark and fed sh1t.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
^ Exactly. As pre-orderers, it's not at all unreasonable to expect them to send just one email. Instead, we've gotten ZERO emails, false promises on twitter, and to top that all off, each of us is out $550. I don't care how much money you make, I'm going to wager that's not an amount you typically just hand to someone you don't know from Adam's house-cat and expect NOTHING in return...

Before people jump on this as "not supporting Saygus", here's a few quick points, which are completely my opinion, so you're welcome to correct me if I'm wrong.

Isn't it just whining/showing bad faith when you post your frustration? No, not at all. See above.

But what if they send the email tomorrow? That would be good, I'd probably wait for the ship date as long as it wasn't some soft "7-12 months" kind of answer; but it still really sucks that they didn't send the email when they said they would. And how can we be sure that they actually will send it tomorrow? How many times have they actually kept their word or even gotten remotely close? NEVER.

Why don't you just cancel then? I am definitely considering that option. But even though I know I sound very negative right now, I still am absolutely 100% in support of the idea of the V2 and want to continue supporting it if I think there's a chance that it will actually happen before my current phone dies.

Have you considered other phones? Yes, absolutely, as it is looking more and more like that is what I will need to do. I keep on looking back at the HTC One (M8 or M9), and I like the Xperia Z3 line. None of them check ALL of the boxes on my list, but the alleged Saygus V2 does. If another phone did, and was actually available in Canada, I'd jump ship in a heartbeat.

But Saygus is making such a revolutionary product! Shouldn't we be supporting that? It does appear that they are, but they aren't exactly giving us any good faith that they actually can even produce a phone like this, and they certainly won't be able to support it if they do, unless a lot of things change with how they run their company.

So yes, I'm still a supporter (my wallet says so). But Saygus' lack of concern about their customers is making me wonder why, and I can see I'm not the only one.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
They blowin up twitter saying they minutes away from sending e-mail.
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
Yeah I saw that to. It must be that we won't be getting the phone any time soon. Why else would they keep delaying this? It's taken them over 12 hours to write an email? Common...
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Anxiety is killin me ?

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I hope it's we're going to get earlier than expected. Dreaming.
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
So did anyone get the email?
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
Nope. April fools!
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
Your an idiot.
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
You're...
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
"your" so cool
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
They said to keep the sun up just a little longer in Australia. Um, they got an hour and 18 minutes to get that e-mail out which is already day late.

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Where you learn that from?

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It's nice to have a delegate of information.
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Delayed 5/22/2015
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
"We officially announce our shipping date as May 22, 2015."
[Saygus V²] ryan49ryan:
Shipping Update!

Finally they have sent out the shipping update that they have been promising!

Some good and not so good news depending on how you look at it. The email states that the official shipping date will be announced on May 22. They are now bundling a set of SqGl earphones with it for anyone who pre ordered, a value of $229. Camera and antenna issues are what has been causing the delays. With the extra time they also plan on making sure that distribution and VAT costs will be better for us.

Hang in there everyone, I'm sure it is going to be good when it's ready!
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
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Can you post the full email please? I never seem to have gotten it...
[Saygus V²] Purest:
How do they come up with these prices, like saying the phone is going to retail at 900, now these headphones they're throwing in are retailed at 229.

---------- Post added at 10:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:11 PM ----------

Dear Saygus V² Customer,

We sincerely thank you for your patience with us as we drive the creation of this world leading V² smartphone and with our delayed communications. We are working to provide more timely updates and plan to reward your great loyalty in supporting us.

Saygus has been in the business of developing mobile device technology for more than a decade. Our commitment to the highest quality smartphone is our focus. We are currently working out our final hardware and software integration efforts. This email is to address the shipping plans including the VAT in varied countries for the V².

First, we would like to address some of the recent developments that are exciting but that also have caused us to push back the date when we initially expected to begin shipping the V² super smartphone.

We have had some delays in production due to imperfect components and an antenna design issue and we refuse to use inferior components in our smartphone.

We are working to finalize some key distribution partnerships that may alleviate some of the VAT costs.

The integration of the industry leading cameras we have in the phone has taken a little longer than anticipated.

We officially announce our shipping date as May 22, 2015.

In exchange for your patience, and to say thank you, we will offer all of our current customers an added bonus. Customers will receive a complimentary SqGl (pronounced “Squiggle”) headset—a $229 retail value—as a FREE accessory. Building the V² is like conducing a symphony with all its parts coming together in harmony—we want it to be perfect. As an additional note, the antenna engineering issues have been addressed and we are now preparing to move into mass production soon.

We understand that some of you may be concerned about this updated status and want you to know that we will support you in a refund request, if that is your preference. Although, we hope you will stay with us to benefit from the savings and receive our high-end SqGl earbuds.

We value your support and continue to appreciate your patience as we approach the shipping date of this remarkable world-leading smartphone!

Sincerely,

The Saygus Team
[Saygus V²] ryan49ryan:
Full Saygus Shipping Update Email

Here is the full email for anyone that has not gotten it yet:
[Saygus V²] GeneralMayhem:
This is a copy/paste from my email.

-

And ninja'd.

I'll leave this here to verify the contents.
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
google returns nothing of this brand "SqGl (pronounced “Squiggle”) headset—a $229 retail value—"
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Now... Who is going to wait till end May for the shipping?

I am definitely going to relax and wait for the superphone with the promised free accessory.

I believed by then LG, Sony and a few others are going to launch their flagship products..

What do you guys think of this?
[Saygus V²] Purest:
Seems to be their own product, I just tweeted them about specs and photos of these so called "$229" ear buds.
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
What a joke probably bought from from a mass producer in china for 1.50 USD each. Then re-branded.
[Saygus V²] renjithrc84:
Got an email with shipping date 22-may-2015

Just now received this email,

Dear Saygus V² Customer,

We sincerely thank you for your patience with us as we drive the creation of this world leading V² smartphone and with our delayed communications. We are working to provide more timely updates and plan to reward your great loyalty in supporting us.

Saygus has been in the business of developing mobile device technology for more than a decade. Our commitment to the highest quality smartphone is our focus. We are currently working out our final hardware and software integration efforts. This email is to address the shipping plans including the VAT in varied countries for the V².

First, we would like to address some of the recent developments that are exciting but that also have caused us to push back the date when we initially expected to begin shipping the V² super smartphone.

We have had some delays in production due to imperfect components and an antenna design issue and we refuse to use inferior components in our smartphone.

We are working to finalize some key distribution partnerships that may alleviate some of the VAT costs.

The integration of the industry leading cameras we have in the phone has taken a little longer than anticipated.

We officially announce our shipping date as May 22, 2015.

In exchange for your patience, and to say thank you, we will offer all of our current customers an added bonus. Customers will receive a complimentary SqGl (pronounced “Squiggle”) headset—a $229 retail value—as a FREE accessory. Building the V² is like conducing a symphony with all its parts coming together in harmony—we want it to be perfect. As an additional note, the antenna engineering issues have been addressed and we are now preparing to move into mass production soon.

We understand that some of you may be concerned about this updated status and want you to know that we will support you in a refund request, if that is your preference. Although, we hope you will stay with us to benefit from the savings and receive our high-end SqGl earbuds.

We value your support and continue to appreciate your patience as we approach the shipping date of this remarkable world-leading smartphone!

Sincerely,

The Saygus Team
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Taking me a bit to fully digest this delay. What makes me scratch my head is that, they have exciting developments but fail to present anything really exciting. I'd rather see a perfect phone than an imperfect phone. However, I don't see what the exciting developments really are from the e-mail. Great I'm getting ear buds with the phone, hopefully they'll be really nice cause I see no data on it anywhere. Nice that we got a solid date though.
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Not me, will take care of this tomorrow. Not interested in waiting another 9 weeks. Oh well, thought it would have been great.....overpromised, underdelivered. Wish you guys all the best!

I don't need anymore Chinese crap. I don't need other free accessories, I need a phone!

I was shocked at this statement: "As an additional note, the antenna engineering issues have been addressed and we are now preparing to move into mass production soon."

You were supposed to initially hit a 3/31 delivery date, and you haven't even started production yet???? Sorry, but not sorry. I'm out. Too many red flags at this point for me.
[Saygus V²] GeneralMayhem:
I'll wait for it.

I know it wasn't sold that way but I'm looking at it as I would a kickstarter & I've never had any of them get delivered on time.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I'm waiting. But I gotta stop stalking this forum and their twitter, it gonna kill me :D.
[Saygus V²] GuillePin:
Saygus V² delayed

I will cancel the purchase. My suspicious mind tells me that close to May 22nd, we'll have another "delay" and new "gift" for our patience...... Mmmm
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
If anyone wants to "buy" my preorder and get all this free crap, PM me.
[Saygus V²] MadBob:
I'll hang on and see how things develop.

I bought this phone knowing it was a startup, and there is nothing else out there that interests me.

The way I read it from the beginning was that 6-8 weeks after the preorder phase they would "start shipping", that would have made it towards the end of April. Now it is the end of May.

No big deal. I think once we get our mitts on this phone it will have been worth the wait. After all I'll have this phone a couple of years if it is any good.

Hopefully they will have EU partners who can ship the phones, then we avoid some of the extra individual customs costs.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Earbuds? Not my cup of tea. I would rather have 229$ improvement in a processor or USB 3.0. But what the hell... bring it on.

I guess Andreas made them squeak. :)

If you want results - send in z Germans!

Andreas? Would you consider helping them with the antenna? :p
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Excellent Update

I'll sleep on it and decide then. I was very happy with their email; they took their time on it, but they were actually technically still on time with it in their timezone (and mine, which helps).

Their email restored some of my faith in their company. Unlike their twitter account, they've proven that they aren't completely incompetent with communicating. The tone was informative, honest, and respectful.

None of their news was a surprise, it was very clear that something was causing delays; thanks again, [MENTION=5122214]andreas5232[/MENTION], for your information about that. It was also very clear that they weren't going to be shipping on March 31, at least to me; I thoughtthat even the original terms and conditions said they would notify us about shipping by the 31st, but maybe I'm wrong on that? Anyway, the main point for me is that they told us exactly what trouble they were having, and that at least the antenna issue was resolved.

I think the camera might be a tough hurdle, because they promised such incredible camera specs and such a low price. I'm sure it's not insurmountable, but this will probably raise the final price of the phone (good news for pre-order people, bad news for everyone else).

Really glad to hear they are working on reducing VAT costs, that's always a concern for me since I live in Canada (the land of the fee). I am expecting I may still have to pay an import fee and all sorts of other taxes, but that's kind of the norm for living in Canada, so I am prepared for whatever.

Finally, like everyone else, no idea if those earbuds are that great or not; I would probably never pay over $10 for earbuds normally (none of them seem to be even close to my AudioTechnica over-ear headphones), but I'll take 'em for free, no complaints there.

So right now I'm thinking it's worth the wait... there's just no other phone out there that's even close to the V2. But I'm still deciding.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Not exactly jumping for joy. They better be some really good ear buds :/.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
I keep saying that, but then I keep coming back! It's like an addiction at this point... :eek:
[Saygus V²] Reallionare:
Those ear buds was probably already supposed to have came with the phone .....Every phone that I have purchased in the last 7 years came with ear buds. That's not good business!!!!
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
It's become my third most visited website. One day the Saygus will be in my hands.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I've never had $229 earbuds ever--- don't even know what to expect from it. I've always grabbed the $5 ones.
[Saygus V²] limpopo:
I already got my refund, but I am not impressed by this update. I will spare you what I really think, because I don't want to take a knife to anyone's dreams.

I HOPE this works out for everyone and for Saygus.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Not to totally change the subject or anything, but... has anyone heard anything about the new colours that will be available? I'm really diggin' the orange V2's I'm seeing in the trade show pics and videos.
[Saygus V²] vladser:
Instead of headphones would be better to receive Wireless hd Receiver or QI Charger
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Totally agree
[Saygus V²] Reallionare:
Most all name brand phones come included with them, from me to you , you can put any price on your product but it Dont mean its worth..Saygus should let all pre- orders opt. for 805 or 808 processors since they haven't started productions, the longer the delay the price bargain margin depletes,,,last but not least IF there are issues after release which is highly normal with 1st batches will be another story, dealing with Saygus . I Dont want to be negative just reality, mostly all of us should know these things mentioned.......
[Saygus V²] r_anush:
Did you get an email with the pre order details though even after the refund? i mean, the mail which everyone is sharing here.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Update from Saygus

For all those whining friends and suspicious eyes I am furnishing below a message received today from SAYGUS

"Dear Saygus V² Customer,

We sincerely thank you for your patience with us as we drive the creation of this world leading V² smartphone and with our delayed communications. We are working to provide more timely updates and plan to reward your great loyalty in supporting us.

Saygus has been in the business of developing mobile device technology for more than a decade. Our commitment to the highest quality smartphone is our focus. We are currently working out our final hardware and software integration efforts. This email is to address the shipping plans including the VAT in varied countries for the V².

First, we would like to address some of the recent developments that are exciting but that also have caused us to push back the date when we initially expected to begin shipping the V² super smartphone.

We have had some delays in production due to imperfect components and an antenna design issue and we refuse to use inferior components in our smartphone.

We are working to finalize some key distribution partnerships that may alleviate some of the VAT costs.

The integration of the industry leading cameras we have in the phone has taken a little longer than anticipated.

We officially announce our shipping date as May 22, 2015.

In exchange for your patience, and to say thank you, we will offer all of our current customers an added bonus. Customers will receive a complimentary SqGl (pronounced “Squiggle”) headset—a $229 retail value—as a FREE accessory. Building the V² is like conducing a symphony with all its parts coming together in harmony—we want it to be perfect. As an additional note, the antenna engineering issues have been addressed and we are now preparing to move into mass production soon.

We understand that some of you may be concerned about this updated status and want you to know that we will support you in a refund request, if that is your preference. Although, we hope you will stay with us to benefit from the savings and receive our high-end SqGl earbuds.

We value your support and continue to appreciate your patience as we approach the shipping date of this remarkable world-leading smartphone!

Sincerely,

The Saygus Team"

"
[Saygus V²] vladser:
If such a high price on the headphones then how much will it cost Wireless HD Receiver and QI charger, I even scared
[Saygus V²] limpopo:
No, I just read the contents of the email that has been posted here about eleven times already.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I looked at the calender and saw how many weeks between here and may 22nd. My heart sunk.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
In our life, some of the best things are worth waiting for :)

You can do it... :thumbup:
[Saygus V²] coolguy09:
No E-mail still

I still didn't received any e-mail.

Anyone else who didn't got the e-mail.
[Saygus V²] vladser:
I didn't received
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
received at 6:02am (French time)
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Good morning everyone! :)

WTF is wrong with you?!

Those in ears may be way better than any included ones with other phones. Even if the so called 300$ ear phones will perform like 50$ ones, that would even sound like a good deal to me. Additionally it doesn't sound, like those ones will get added to all phones shipped.

Must be exclusive addition for us pre orderers as a gift for our patience so far - anything else makes no sense to.

Wow. After reading their email today in the morning I decided to change my travelling schedule and will stop over at CeBIT again today, to ask them about details regarding their email.

Will get on the road in the afternoon then... Quite much action so, but I'm really hoping it's worth it and I'll get some more answers for you.

Have a nice day and as always: feel free to contact me, I'm glad to help!

Sent with my RAZR HD now Free
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
:p
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Now I wonder if Saygus will be the first phone NOT to have earphones for those which didn't preorder.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
I am definitely waiting till June or July since upcoming LG or Sony or Samsung or Other flagships come either with a nonremvable battery or without a memory card slot.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
i received email from Saygus. I will continue waiting