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[Saygus V²] kenosis:
My order number is 2176. I ordered on 8 Feb Sunday (around 8 AM Singapore Time). I did not get $50 discount and my total price is $599.

According to Saygus website, they extend Pre-order until 23:59 (MST, Saturday 7 Feb Midnight). When I made order around 8AM (Sunday) Singapore Time, the time there will be around 17:00 (Saturday). I don't know why I did not get $50 discount. I do not receive coupon via email. I sent emails to saygus and no reply until now.

Hopefully, i can get $50 discount + extra battery + screen protector.
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
You didn't apply for coupon. The coupon is the same for all customers.

Here's the coupon : v2preorder
[Saygus V²] zakiwashi:
My credit card has been charged. £357.68 that's less than i expected to be honest. Bonus
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
The currency conversion goes up and down
[Saygus V²] zakiwashi:
The coupon is cross checked against your email address to prove that they sent you one out. If you apply this code here you would not have got the discount unless they personally sent you a code.

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True, but at the time of the transaction my calculation was 362. I was also expecting a non sterling transaction fee from my card supplier of 3%, which didn't happen.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
I didn't know that coupon is v2preorder. What they mentioned in FAQ is...I will receive a code via email. I just clicked order and Total cost is $599.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
Yes you had to pre register in order for the pre order discount code to work. I was fortunate enough to have the code applied to my order. The price is now $599 and pre order discounts aren't available anymore, unfortunately. I too wonder if the battery and screen protector is included with all pre orders or just to those who were "pre registered"?

Edit: Super excited for this phone! If it works as advertised it's worth every penny of $599 IMO.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
When did preregister start? I just saw that phone around Feb 5 and ordered on 8 Feb (5 PM MST time). Hopefully, I can get screen protector and extra battery
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
Pre registration ended Feb 2nd. You can still pre order but at $599.
[Saygus V²] Planterz:
It's my understanding that the tech already exists for slots (and buses) to handle 1TB or even 2TB microSD cards. But for the moment, that's moot since those capacity cards are still a ways away. Like how Microsoft advertizes that Windows 64bit can handle 192gb RAM. So what? Even the most insane gaming PCs top out at 64gb, and most have "only" 32gb or 16gb, which is overkill in most cases.

I agree with those who expect that the V2 will get the SD805, which only makes sense. Putting a year+ old processor in a device like this is like when you were a kid and your parents gave you the toy that all the cool kids got last Christmas. Of course, the same could be true for Lollipop instead of KitKat, but I kinda doubt Lollipop will come at launch. In fact, I kinda hope it doesn't (but comes later, of course), just to give people the flexibility of choosing a KK ROM or LP ROM. I mean, many Nexus 4/5 and OPO owners have stuck with 4.4.4 ROMs, but you don't see any 4.4.4 ROMs for the Nexus 6.
[Saygus V²] post_break:
Finally got a reply on my month old ticket about those who got the discount not needing to pay the restocking fee if the phone is returned within 14 days.

Well they reneged. I should have taken a screen shot of the faq... but it said if you got the discount, you didn't have to pay a restocking fee if you returned it within 14 days. That part from the faq disappeared. Annoying but I'm still waiting for this damn phone.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I hope so. It was just my understanding , just from what I've read from other tech Ventures, that a hardware change like that at this stage in the game is unlikely. Maybe I'm wrong and it is not a big deal. Any idea what the cost difference would be? I hope there is no up-sell..

For an extra 50 bucks or whatever.
[Saygus V²] jesamyn:
One final post from me just to wrap things up... I did get a response to my cancellation request this evening. No issues with getting the pre-order cancelled. This is not meant as encouragement for others to do the same. I just wanted to follow up on the non-response complaint that I made and confirm they did eventually respond.
[Saygus V²] Jan de Mor:
Totally agree Cullenator

I decided to wait until significant news in april

If they continue just encouraging to stand, I'll surely change my mind. And then I'll be terribly sorry to invest in a chinese device... I still can't realize that's vaporware, but the lack of communication they played between a preorder and a kickstarter project really annoyed me, and the whole month between ces and mwc without a serious feedback doesn't help at all

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Jesamyn, sorry to read that, but obviously If they hasn't been so amateur with pr and communication, I'm pretty sure all people would be still in

They didn't gave us much more than hope recently, and even with such a poor info we're waiting a little bit more cause we are really optimistic and wishing a real v2, but it's logical our commitment won't last forever. In my case beggining of april is crucial
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I'd hate to think that the secrets they are talking about are what is already known like 200g slot support or insignificant like ships with lollipop. My opinion, they low-balled the spec sheet to throw off competition, and have insurance just in case any specs greater than what is listed won't work flawlessly. They want to emerge as a powerful smartphone company in the USA like Apple. They will need the sum of every feature to be significantly greater than the competition, and work flawlessly. Having some significant secrets are no surprise to me. Just as we are uncertain of Saygus' capabilities, so are the multi billion dollar smartphone companies. Exactly where they need to be. That's my hypothesis.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
1. It is not processor. They must have closed financial structure by now.

2. It is not an upgrade. If it is- that must be storrage.

3. Could be new, not yet advertised feature. They did say that there should be new name tor this type of device. So far we have just a phone with an option or 2 more than others. Still a phone.

4. I am thinking- something new and original. Doesn't cost much, has big effect. Some new sensor?
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
The thought of a new sensor is interesting...

Let's see what kinda sensors are there.... And the phone that uses this sensors..

1. Accelerometer (most phones)

2. Gyroscope (most phones)

3. Magnetometer

4. Proximity Sensor (most phones)

5. Light Sensor (most phones)

6. Barometer (Nexus)

7. Thermometer (Galaxy S4)

8. Pedometer (Google Nexus 5)

9. Heart Rate Monitor (Galaxy S5)

10. Fingerprint Sensors (Iphone 5, Galaxy S5)

11. Radiation Sensor (Sharp Pantone 5 has it, in Japan only)

12. Air Humidity Sensor

Any other interesting sensors which I miss out?
[Saygus V²] limpopo:
I have received a reply and acceptance of my cancellation request from Saygus.

I hope the phone works out for those hanging in there - I am still hopeful, but I have been using a temporary device since my Nexus 4 died, and I just can't hang on any longer. Plus I don't really want to spend £450 to £500 (after shipping and VAT) on any phone, certainly not before reviews are out.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
10. is off. They wouldn't use fingerprint sensor if they had scanner already. Something that can be paired with already implemented feature. Something that works with 2 strong cameras or wifi. They also went into negotiations wih SanDisc the very moment they heard about 200Gb card. Perhaps it is something that was also presented in Barcelona? Remember, this device also shoots widest range of wifi signal known in mobile phones. Some GPS booster or some GPS feature? Virtual reality implementation of a sort?
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I wouldn't rule out processor.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
I would HATE to rule it out. Snapdragon 820 is about to come out. But deduction says we must question price of production with startup companies. Also, having in mind their communication with other presenters in Barcelona- it would be nice to know what else was presented there that can be shoved into new device.
[Saygus V²] Purest:
13. UV Sensor (Note 4)
[Saygus V²] theleftykid:
Latest response tweets available.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Saygus recently replied to some tweets. See here: https://twitter.com/Saygus/with_replies

They confirmed, that the camera sensors will be from Sony.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Actually I don't quite get it. So camera sensor from Sony. Not sharp? I thought I actually saw and hear a representative from Saygus in a video saying its from Sharp? Or it was something else?
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
That's what I also thought until now, but if I rethink this again, they could have simply said something like "...a sharp 21 megapixel camera...", which can be misunderstood. ;)
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
To add on to that, Saygus did read our forum....

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I knew it... They are progressing slowly....

Thats why I said take it slow.. No rush.. The good will come...
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Saygus is again blowing Twitter up right now.

Bad news for some of you guys, the will stick to the Snapdragon 801. See: https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/576011949231636480

But for me this is absolutely okay, because I like their vision of getting the best fitting components, to deliver us the best smartphone experience ever.

I'm quite excited now, to read their news. :D

See https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/576006327404666880

Maybe they even have an european distributor, so that at least the EU customers don't have to pay for the import/VAT. That would be great! :)

UPDATE

https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/576015058729209856
[Saygus V²] tocirah1:
see above.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Shipping details out this week!

Time to get really excited!

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[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
HAHAHA. Great!

So excited, that we even need various people posting this? :D

BTW:

https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/576017437016997888

Sounds great! :D
[Saygus V²] post_break:
All aboard the hype train. Here's to hoping the news isn't "Hey guys the official ship time is 6-8 weeks from now" haha.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
I think you got a point there. They may email all to inform us the official shipping details, which may be 6-8 weeks from now.

Lols...
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
I find this quite funny..

Open a ticket "cancelling my cancel"...

Lols..

Check this out...

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[Saygus V²] sheriffa:
Shipping update this week

https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/576016282740375552
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
What is the approximate ship date of the V²?

Expected shipping in 6-8 weeks. We will notify customers in March on an exact ship date.

Above sentences are from Saygus FAQ page. IF they really send out email for shipping in next week, Saygus keep their words. Am I right to say it? :)
[Saygus V²] letinsh:
If you Pre-Registered, they sent out an email stating this, so there is precedent if you want to claim it.

See attached screen shot from the email I received on Feb 7th, around 7pm (just before the pre-order window closed).
[Saygus V²] post_break:
Wow thank you, this will come in handy should I need to return it!
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Well, just assuming that they find out the shipping dates this week. What would be the variables involved?

- Manufacturing time.

No idea how long this takes, assuming a day or two at least.

- Shipping from China's manufacture to Utah (probably not directly to consumer)

Probably going to take at least 4 weeks to ship from China

I'd still say early to mid-April.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
4 weeks to ship from China? I would expect them to ship their devices rather by plane, than by ship.

But I think it's not necessary to speculate about this a lot, because we will hopefully have an official information about this soon.
[Saygus V²] letinsh:
I don't do the whole twittering thing. Can one of y'all pose a question about how Verizon validation is going. I'm also interested in the port - the Specs say micro-USB 2.0/3.0, but the connector on the bottom of the phone is a USB 2.0 only (unless I'm confused about the ports).

Thanks!
[Saygus V²] post_break:
They must be changing the port to be USB 3, that's the only way they could advertise USB 3.
[Saygus V²] scotth324:
Maybe one easy hardware change was to USB type c. May have been easy to implement. Can't wait for my new phone.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
I doubt it would be feasible to transport ALL of their pre-orders via plane, and I would hope their team does some inspection before they send them off to us, so yes, I doubt it's going to be as quick as you could expect for an amazon order. It's probably a good idea to set low expectations so we don't freak out if/when we hear the ship date is still a month or two away.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Yet some of you have no issues posting stuff like "I am willing to wait until September", or "I would gladly pay 1000$ for it". What are you thinking with?! Of course they read this thread! Saygus will reach its best with the help of developers here. Saygus will be best accepted phone among this kind of population. And we all need to be constructive.
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Glad to see this thread taking off. I wanted to point out that I did pre-order, and I got an email that explicitly stated all pre-order customers would essentially have a 14-day grace period to return the phone w/no re-stocking fee. Was really the largest reason I ended up ordering it.....really no risk except for minor shipping fee.

In case Saygus is reading this site, I'd just like to say that their communication efforts to the public, and in particular customers that have ordered their product early, are atrcious and appalling. I still have emails from February that are unanswered, tickets not responded to, the website has had almost zero updates since Jan, etc. I'm sure you all do as well. Five weeks on pre-order now and there has been zero communication as to the phone status?

I'm giving Saygus the benefit of the doubt with my money, but I don't think a single final production unit has actually been captured on camera/film yet. This phone is a beast, but it actually may be too good to be true.

As the zen master says.....
[Saygus V²] jimmyhauser:
I hope they don't up the screen to 1440 like samsung and LG. 1920x1080 is just fine for a phone this size. I think an 801 is fine too. 810 and 1440 would come with battery life hits.
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Agreed. An 801, HD resolution, and 3gb RAM will be a sick setup with a 3000mah batt. I just want them to hit 3/31, that's all I want. If this gets pushed to June, July, August.....then my money is wasted as most of those specs will be dead tech by then.
[Saygus V²] Planterz:
It wouldn't be "dead tech", not by a long shot, but it would certainly kill off the price point advantage.
[Saygus V²] Jan de Mor:
Agree... I think v2 it's worth for 550/600$ until mid april. More than that the device should lower a bit his price cause this config won't be top tech by those days
[Saygus V²] Planterz:
I think it's well worth $600 even months after that, but what I'm saying is that Saygus has made the point of advertizing that it's cheaper than comparable flagships. But compared to other phones with similar tech (LG G3, Galaxy S5, Sony Z3, HTC M8), they're running out of time before that point is no longer true. Bump the processor to an 805 however, maybe throw in another GB RAM, and it still holds up to the "$100 cheaper" claim because then we're talking about the Note 4, Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx, Nexus 6, and the upcoming G4, GS6, Z4, and M9.
[Saygus V²] post_break:
Processor isn't everything. No flagship currently comes in 64GB and offers a microsd slot and removable battery.
[Saygus V²] hella356:
I briefly had a Note 3 with the 800 chip & 3GB RAM, and it was definitely snappier than my S4, so the 801 looks really good to me. If Saygus delivers with the V2, it should provide the capital for a V3 with whatever the current top of the line chip is a year from now.
[Saygus V²] Vapour_909:
I think that the feature list on the V2 is enough to represent the "$100 cheaper" claim if it works flawlessly. Other flagship devices may have the processing advantage but are falling behind in many other respects when you consider all of the features involved. If Saygus surprises us with additions to this feature set before launch then that's pretty impressive, but only if it works perfectly. According to their twitter they're striving for perfection, and are upholding the V2 to their own meticulous standards. They may not be able to say it well, but that's what they're saying. Lollipop out of the box would be nice though.

Dunno if this has been seen by some:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLWypFLEbfg

Saygus claims that their battery saving software increases battery performance comparable to a 4500mAh.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
I second that... To be brutally honest, no flagship products have come close to Saygus V2. Some readers here has said that within a short time the Saygus will be consider "old" and "overpriced".

Maybe you guys can enlighten me and the Saygus team how can a superphone like a Saygus V2 be overpower by the current or upcoming flagship smartphones?
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
My guess is people wanted and 810 and a $400 or less price tag on it. Personally I would have loved to have seen an 810 in it, but as it is I feel that the v2 is probably the first phone that at least going by specs checks off everything I want.
[Saygus V²] hella356:
That would be epic. I assume Type C (or 3.1 or whatever it should be called) would provide for significantly faster charging times on top of faster data transfer. I'd like to at least see USB 3.0, but if it ends up 2.0, I'd consider that forgivable. If Saygus gets the V2 right and becomes a legit player, I'd think Type C would be used in the next model they produce.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I'd like to think it be by plane but that seems a bit out there. I'm speculating that they are playing with razor thin margins and as long as they are within the estimated ship time, they won't make those margins even thinner if they don't need to. Not to mention there will probably going to be a quality check, and special packaging and literature by Saygus. That again is speculation as that all could be done at the manufacture standpoint- but doubt it. You're right though, not necessary speculate this.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Usb 2.0- not forgivable. Because of internal memory and advertising. Nobody wants to fill 400 or whatever Gb using 2.0 connection. I read 3.0 and I want it as promised. It was poorly advertised as "usb 2.0/3.0". It is one and only connection! Don't know why this is discussed at all?
[Saygus V²] hella356:
You're right about all that. They ARE specifying 3.0, & with that much storage, it would make a big difference with fast SD cards. My thinking is that I'd go with more affordable (& thus slower) 128GB cards, & would load them up once with music & movies & not do many transfers after that. Then use the 50 or so open GB of built-in for more frequent transfers. If 2.0 is the biggest performance drawback, I could live it in light of all the other great features. But I agree, Saygus needs to address this.
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Correct, maybe "dead tech" wasn't the right term. But "obsolete" is certainly coming to mind as I rephrase myself. I thing $549 was a steal for what this phone offers, and more importantly for what I need my phone for. But Saygus has to deliver....and soon. If it gets stuck pushing into July/Aug/Sept, it's obsolete at that price point. And their customer support HAS to get better, it

HAS

to. So far my customer experience has been absolutely abominable, hopefully the phone experience won't follow in that footpath.
[Saygus V²] renjithrc84:
Saaygus still in its preorder stage, shipping date cannot be confirmed

Hi guys, This is the reply i got from saygus. And i asked them about shpping yesterday, Means the reply didn't took that much time. But again this reply made me sad.

cclayelijah 4 hours ago

Hi Renjith,

Thank you for contacting Saygus, and coming back with more questions you have. There has been much excitement around the V² and we’ve been working around the clock to make sure to release the very best smartphone possible. We can hardly wait to begin shipping.

To answer your question:

The V² is still in its Pre-Order stage, and shipping has not been defined. All information about shipping schedule, shipping fees, etc will be determined at the time the V² is ready to ship. When ready, we will contact you by email to present shipping options. At that time, if you determine that the shipping fees are higher than you expected, you have the right to cancel your order.

This smartphone is packed with technology and is designed to help make your life better. It’s worth the wait.

We are currently finalizing our production schedule and do not have a shipping date. We will make shipping options available in the coming weeks. We will keep you informed.

Don’t worry,

We can still ship to you no matter where you are in the world.

Shipping information such as postage or service is not available at the moment. Shipping options will be provided to you via email when your order is ready to ship.

Any VAT fees for your respective country that may be required, or taxes, will also be calculated for you.

You do have the right to cancel your order if the amount added is more than expected.

Additional information on shipping may be found in the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) section.

I hope that helps.

If you have more questions, or would like further support, please visit our “Support” page. You may also reopen this support ticket, or create a new one. Either way, we’ll be glad to help.

Thank you,

The Saygus Team
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
They're basically just giving all their customers the middle finger, saying "wait until 3/31 to bother us about shipping dates." It is what it is, I will be as patient as possible until 3/31. After that, all bets are off.
[Saygus V²] theleftykid:
One thing I like with the phone is the design. It looks pretty cool. Soooo different from other phone. So I was tempted to preorder...lol