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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
I'm going to pick one up in the morning and see what it's all about.

If the edges stick real good it would be perfect for the Otterbox commuter as It's rubber edges will seal the whole thing up nice.

I'll be the Guinea Pig and pick one up in the morning and give it a whirl. :p
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] bleuiko:
This looks like the edge to edge screen protectors for iPhones; probably have the same "feature". The colored part has no glue and simply floats over the curved edge of the screen. This is not a curved screen protector; at least for iPhone, this works best for those wanting a thin case as the glass will float over the case making it seem more seamless. For those going naked, this will be very annoying.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
I guess this will be good for those (like me) that really wanted to put a tempered glass screen protector along with the built in screen protector on the Defender Series case, but couldn't so. Definitely keep us posted, especially with pictures.

Kinda reminds me of built in screen protector found in the Otterbox Defender series case. Otterbox really failed this time around, and perhaps this might be a viable solution for me.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
I've ordered one from Moshi's website. Will need to see this in person as well. Might actually satisfy me more than Otterbox's Defender Series.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] munkypoo7:
In the first picture I posted, I tried to catch that, so I may not have, but yes there is adhesive on the sides as well, which due to my Note's ridiculous curvature, didn't adhere, letting dust and all the general pocket dust slide right under the glass.

The glass portion on the screen has absolutely no adhesive, it's ever-so-slightly lifted due to the adhesive around the edges, which is why it never bubbles but can have crud caught under it.

Though, in all fairness, while any Otterbox case for me is an instant "no" (bulk), if you get a case that can essentially bite down on the sides preventing stuff from sliding in under the screen, you may have one hell of a winning combination :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ckspeed1968:
Guys, I am currently using the ivisor glass, see post#1880 on the tempered glass topic. Took some pix with 2 cases: samsung protective cover+ and otterbox commuter. The protective cover fits much better. It's like the ivisor was made to fit with the samsung covers. The commuter is a little tight on the 2 sides, corners go over the ivisor. Can't download pix right now cause i don't have cable or sd slot on my work PC to download from my camera. I'll try to upload pix this evening.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] gregma:
This glass only attaches at the top and bottom, not the sides. The glass itself is not curved, thus there will be a gap on both sides. What prevents dust, hair, dirt, lint, etc from getting in between the glass and the phone through these huge openings on both sides?

Thanks!

Greg
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ckspeed1968:
A good case like the samsung protective cover+ or cases that have similar fit. No dust so far in the 6 days of use.

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In my opinion I would not recommend the ivisor glass for people who do not use case or a case similar to the 2 case that I have tested. I think if you drop the phone and landed on any corner or side it would probably come off with the impact force as there is not enough adhesive surfaces.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
I installed fresh Skinomi TechSkin on my Note 4, it was a safe wet install. Also applied a regular Spigen Crystal HD PET Film Screen Protector, exceeded my expectations. If I can fit this with my Otterbox Defender, I'll move on from here, lol. I like how my Note 4 curves evenly on both sides.

I'm still going to try the Moshi when it comes later this week. I'll try it with the Commuter Series case, without removing the screen protector I just installed.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
For the moment. ;) I do have another new Zagg Glass sitting here that I might try in a few days. :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Getting my Moshi in the next hour or so, will immediately resort to installing and trying with the Commuter Case. If it fails, I'll send back the Moshi, and stick to the Defender Series case with the Skinomi Skin Removed use the HDX or iLoome Screen Protector for the time being. The tempered glass is not my thing at the moment. I'll hold my Commuter Case a bit longer till the BodyGuardz releases, that's final. Cheers
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Got my iVisor today in a huge box. Wonder whats lurking inside. Eager to try it out.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Interesting, my Moshi is Made in Taiwan, came in a White Glovebox, ready to install.

Now, The Ultimate Question is, WILL IT BLEND?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Pictures please :D
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
It's a perfect fit, no lifting with the Commuter Series Case, very compatible with the Commuter Case, will depend what type of curved screen you have on your Note 4. The only issue is that I received a damaged glass. Not the kind of damage where you cannot apply the product. There was already a scuff, debris, dust in the inner portion of the glass before peeling back the protective film. I still tried it anyway, and am impressed, no gap, perfect fit, all four sides were adhered to.

Probably the best glass so far, until the BodyGuardz comes to the market.

If one is OCD, he / she might favor installing an additional screen protector on top, lol.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
You and mitchellvii must have gotten that perfect Moshi glass, not me. :crying:

Give it a few hours to loosen up and then let me know how it goes?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Well, mine arrived defective in transit, not sure who's to blame FedEx or Moshi, I've had a bad experience with logistics lately. Otterbox, Zagg, now Moshi, When is this going to resolve. :crying::mad:

Wow, I'm suppose to return and place a new order, what a disgrace!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
No Moshi, No Cry ! :p

Go to your local AT&T store and purchase one. That way you can return/exchange it with ease.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Not worth going to the AT&T Store, Warranty procedure is different
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Only Moshi iVisor Glass purchased from Moshi.com is valid for a One time Replacement.

In my case, its not a replacement, its an exchange since I received an item that was defective from the start.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Moshi is owned by Aevoe Corp,

Aevoe Corp.

(408) 523-7886

488 DeGuigne Dr., Sunnyvale, CA 94085

http://www.aevoe.com

Alternate,

491 E Evelyn Avenue

Phone: (408) 876-6266
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
[MENTION=5860476]felloffthetruck[/MENTION],

The Moshi is also a fingerprint magnet. I might as well stay with the Defender Series and stick with it.

How many times have you seen me bouncing back and forth, lol
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Don't pay any mind to the scuff and dust; I'll be returning this protector for a full refund. I'll probably be purchasing another one, not sure if they do cross-exchange, horrible support channel..

There are no issues in terms of fitment within the Otterbox Commuter; FITS PERFECTLY.

I'm just unlucky to have received a defective one which already had dust and scuff mark between the removal film and adhesive end. There is also little adhesive on the left and right sides.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
That baby is on nice and straight too. Maybe it was built in dust/marks that I was seeing on mine also. :p

I'm going to stick with the Alpha or Zagg glass for now and wait on the Crown to rear it's ugly head. :o

What kind of Sony camera do you have there?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Good News, they are going to process my replacement, however, they require me to break the protector and e-mail them a picture of it to proceed with the replacement. They do have a phone number, but is not necessarily a support channel as per the BBB.

The iVisor Moshi protector is still better than the Zagg Glass and Alpha Glass when you think in terms of fitment.

Regarding the Sony Camera,

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] rajil.s:
Does this protector work with the case which comes with the zero lemon 10000mAh battery?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Yes it does.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Moshi's Customer Service was prompt to response yesterday. At the moment, this is the only practical solution for protecting the glass on the Note 4. I am very sure the dust that was on the glass before the adhesive film was removed, came about just by the way it was handled by FedEx, also Moshi's uses a middle man before shipping via FedEx.

The product is still promising. If you are able to adhere all four sides onto the phone, the chances of getting dust underneath is virtually zero percent. There is adhesive around the home button as well.

You do not need to, and I advise, should not install any plastic screen protector below the Moshi Glass as plastic film is a dust-attractant. Glass all the way. :good:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
I'm going to do some tests right now on the Moshi to see how much it can put up with sharp objects. First thing to do is remove the Moshi from the Note 4, then perform the tests.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
The Moshi iVisor is a lot resilient to scratches and hard impact than typical tempered Glass Screen Protectors like the Zagg Glass and Otterbox Alpha Glass.

However, removing and reapplying the Moshi iVisor really does not suit me well. It is difficult to remove the dust which quickly accumulates as soon as you remove the protector and expose it to the elements; the adhesive portions easily attract dust when removed. This protector is a one time install; I think Moshi needs to address this. Washing the protector under warm water does not improve the outcome, in fact makes it worse. Though the adhesive material does not wash out, dust and other particulates are easily able to make its way onto the adhesive portions in spite of running warm tap water.

I used a sharp Swiss Army knife to see how it well it can put up. I used the sharpest edges of the knife, quite sharp to ooze blood from the distal arteries of the fingertips. Even with mighty pressure, not a single scratch or indentation occurred on the Moshi iVisor Glass.

Coming to shattering the glass, the iVisor does have its weak points, particularly top part of the home button area and left and right sides of the protector itself (half-way bezel area); don't bend at those points.

The protector is impact resistant; as long as it is installed "properly," on the Note 4, you should not face any problems.

Works quite well with the Commuter Series case, not sure why some are reporting bowing. The protector has enough adhesive material to bond to the surface of the Note 4's display, especially the point at which the screen rounds off; the protector itself is flat, whereas the adhesive compensates in the curved areas.

Pictures enclosed of the sustained damage.

I'll be getting a replacement, not as part of the warranty, but as an exchange. Purchasing from Moshi entitles you to a one-time replacement as per the warranty; not sure if purchasing from AT&T or other retail stores makes you eligible for the Warranty. If you purchased from Moshi.com and if your Moshi sustained damage while in transit, their customer service team is quite prompt and will help you along the way to quickly resolve this matter.

For now, for those that like doing a one-time install, purchase the iVisor Glass, and don't bother purchasing and trying other Glass screen / PET screen protectors. This is a one time install, and should last you a long way, as long as it is properly installed.

This is still considered the most practical, easy, and best solution until the BodyGuardz releases to the market (I'm a little skeptical regarding how the company compensated the areas which were susceptible to halo; will have to see).

Moshi for the win.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Very Nice, are you going to keep the Moshi replacement and use it ?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Not sure, but I did respond to you in the other thread regarding this, haha

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=58192263&postcount=76
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
Halo 100% FREE And looks awesome no issues at all applied first time when on perfect no dust around it or in it, This is a Winner will stick with Moshi.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
You guys are making me want to try another Moshi :silly:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
What case is that?! :D

Are you using any additional screen protector below your Moshi?

I know things can happen when any merchandise is in transit. I'm still giving Moshi benefit-of-doubt and am confident that the replacement will be immaculate.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
The Moshi is the only practical solution at the moment.

Question: In respect to Physics 101, does the Moshi's protection work the same way as typical glass screen protectors (adhesive within display area). The Moshi reminds me of the already built in screen protection offered by the Otterbox Defender Series.

I'm going to hand this question over to [MENTION=4631220]Venom0642[/MENTION] , any idea? :p
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
That is the UAG case Venom0642 has pictured.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Thanks, I got my iLoome today by the way. Looks very similar to Zagg's HDX, but is actual tempered glass (Flexible type). The iLoome is extremely thin as well, and very likely to work in conjunction with the Defender Series case as well as the inbuilt screen protector.

Not sure what to do now. Don't like the idea of going through replacements. Received two Zagg HDX's today as well.

If I do the Defender, I'll have to choose between the Screenmate Flex or Zagg HDX.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
That's the UAG Case and no, no other screen under that is Moshi Screen on top of Original Screen from Note 4 AT&T Device. :p
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
The IVisor should looks elegant. Wonder if it will fit in the Defender Series case with its built in screen protector.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
[MENTION=4631220]Venom0642[/MENTION] , do you have a Defender Series Case by Otterbox by any chance?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
No i don't, i only have UAG case and the comutter and Samsung Protective in gray and all of these cases function with no issues on Moshi.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
arjun, what's your current setup?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
I received my replacement top & base assembly from Otterbox today (Assembled in China); the piece arrived intact. I'll be installing the iLoome screen protector today, and will install the phone in the Otterbox Defender Series case with built in screen protector, I'll most likely be able to retain my Skinomi Techskins as well. I have a home button transparent sticker that will be able to fully seal the phone from the outside elements. The built in screen protectors in the Otterbox are known for drawing in dust.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Is that China shell any better then the USA version?

Put up some pictures when you get it all together. ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Well, the Otterbox Defender series was initially and originally Made in China. The ones Made in the USA are as good as the China ones. I have a couple USA Shells lying around which fit the same way as the one I got from eBay. Some shells have slight variations. You pointed one of them out in a picture in a past post, the USA ones have a notably thicker protrusion inside the shell making it more likely to be defective compared to the China one.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Where are all the Pictures :confused: I like Pictures :silly:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] fcb1:
I have the bodyguards screen protector that's fits like crap but lost the receipt, would at&t swap it out?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
I'll be uploading them later today, most likely late evening. :D
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
How bad is it?

If you purchased it and have an AT&T account, maybe they could look it up.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] cjparker:
ok, REALLY dumb question comin' right up....

Just got my Moshi glass. I have the Samsung case. Can the Moshi be installed with the case still on? (I was thinking it might aid in alignment).

I mean I have to take it out to remove the HDX, but just wondered.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
On UAG Case no issues at all : http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=58192635&postcount=206

And Works On Samsung Protective Case as well!

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Remove HDX Screen and Case then Place Moshi once you do that then put case back on!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] cjparker:
OK. Moshi installed. I got it on nice and straight. Took me a couple tries to (gently) figure out where best to place my fingers so they acted as edge guides.

I know opinions are subjective, but the very first thing I noticed was that my screen appeared more vivid. Keep in mind that I was actually pretty happy with the HDX. But the glass is just so much nicer. My wife has glass on her S5 so I kinda knew what to expect, but still...

Fits well with the Samsung case. Like they were made for each other. We'll see how it is in a few day, but right now... it looks really good. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Cool, the more I play with the Defender, the more I like it. :good: Working good with the Alpha glass. :silly:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Why did you not keep the HDX on? You could have installed the Moshi right on top? Not sure how Moshi is shatterproof. The HDX could have acted as an additional barrier.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Where are those "Hot" pictures? :confused:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] cjparker:
Moshi iVisor with Samsung case. The flecks are actually NOT on the phone. :)

I pulled out my Canon EOS XSi and apparently I need to clean my lens. (Sorry about that. heheheh)

I'm extremely happy with the fit. I haven't tried taking it out of this case and putting it into the Commuter, because.... well.... I don't particularly care for how the buttons feel when it's in the commuter. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mahdibassam:
Moshi

Awesome, where did u buy the moshi ?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
Same as here it's the best Glass screen protector no issues at all i left UAG case on it works like wonders!

Can Get it here: http://www.moshi.com/ivisor-glass-for-galaxy-note-4#black
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mocsab:
First Impressions, based on the videos is that the CROWN by BodyGuardz looks really good and as long as the metal "crown" sticks nicely, could very well be exactly what I have been looking for.

I have tried two other glass screen protectors - both were good - but flawed in their own ways - Originally I had The Body Guardz glass screen protector - it looked and felt nice but I always hated the fact that it left a small border around the entire screen uncovered - I also installed the "Iloom Flex Screen" protector - this actually worked out better than I thought it would - nice feel - extremely thin - feels like glass - but not 9h (only 8h if that really matters)

Anyway - if the video is correct and it really looks like that in real life, and the metal 'frame' sticks well - that very well colud be exactly what I have been looking for. Cant wait for the release in February to see if it really holds true....
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] fcb1:
Picked up the moshi and at&t for 25$ :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
I think you picked up the film version and not the Glass version we are discussing here. The Glass version costs $45
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] fcb1:
Nope I'm 100% sure I got the glass lol. Got it for 25$ because I had the body guards on but lost the receipt so one employee was kind enough to give me her employee discount which is half off
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
The glass Moshi at AT&T cost $48.00 plus tax. :p
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
You can reply to me on the other thread :p

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=58291144&postcount=2054

The iLoome = Worst Install Experience yet! :(

These companies are wasting our time.

Go with the Moshi iVisor or Spigen Crystal HD PET Film Protector and move on, its getting to a tipping point where we all may turn ourselves against any device with rounded glass surfaces, lol.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
[MENTION=5860476]felloffthetruck[/MENTION] , I've already uploaded pictures of the iLoome (see previous post). I would say, avoid at all cost. I'm going to put this contraption to rest and stick to either the Zagg HDX or Spigen Crystal HD PET, and use the Otterbox Defender Series case in conjunction (as well as the built-in screen protector). This has gone far enough. :cowboy:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] twe90kid:
Is anyone using this with the spigen air cushion case?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] skillzo1:
Before i drop 50 on this, is anyone using the verus thor case with this? Anyone have a coupon code lol?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
If you know someone at an AT&T store, they can perhaps give you 50% off. However, these protectors are hard to find. Even B&H still shows this item as preorder only, lol.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mitchellvii:
Review after a few weeks.

Have been using the Moshi for a few weeks now. Here are my impressions:

1) Still can't believe I dropped $50 USD on a 4 inch piece of glass, but if ever there was a 4 inch piece of glass worth $50, this is it.

2) Best screen protector I've ever owned. Looks great, protects and cleans easily.

3) After a while and multiple cleanings a slight haze does start to build up. A simple wipe with some clear water and polishing cloth and back to new.

4) Looks very classy and high end.

5) Am using this with Samsung S View case so sides are completely exposed. So far not a single spec of dust has gotten beneath the protector. Some users earlier were complaining of constant dust intrusion even while in an enclosed case. Have no idea how that is possible, perhaps their adhesive was defective?

Anyway, 5 star rating.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mahdibassam:
Someone please find a way to buy moshi internationally (Aussie and Nz) !!!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mitchellvii:
Review after a few weeks.

Have been using the Moshi for a few weeks now. Here are my impressions:

1) Still can't believe I dropped $50 USD on a 4 inch piece of glass, but if ever there was a 4 inch piece of glass worth $50, this is it.

2) Best screen protector I've ever owned. Looks great, protects and cleans easily.

3) After a while and multiple cleanings a slight haze does start to build up. A simple wipe with some clear water and polishing cloth and back to new.

4) Looks very classy and high end.

5) Am using this with Samsung S View case so sides are completely exposed. So far not a single spec of dust has gotten beneath the protector. Some users earlier were complaining of constant dust intrusion even while in an enclosed case. Have no idea how that is possible, perhaps their adhesive was defective?

6) This is a bit odd but IMHO the screen actually looks more vivid and dimensional with this on than with bare glass.

Anyway, 5 star rating.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] skillzo1:
Nah don't know anyone. Plus i'd like to get the warranty with it that is only supplied when you buy through moshi. I don't want to buy it and not fit with my verus thor case. Love this case by the way. Makes the phone feel much smaller by the design. Highly recommend it. But thats another thread.

If i do get this screen protector, i have the DE verizon version. It is black, i want to mix it up and get a white moshi screen cover.