yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Saygus V²] waterplanet:
Thanks for answering, hopefully they will find a good solution for the Camera lens :)

I have another question, concerning the WiHD functionality and Privacy. Is it possible limit in some ways what will be casted to the TV when using the WiHD? Or will the entire screen be casted all the time?

For instance limit the sharing only to certain apps? Or pause the sharing during the presentation? Users might be a bit uneasy by using the WiHD for presentations since the phone usually contains sensitive or private information. Maybe they don't want to cast everything to the TV when other people is around.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Yup just a teensy bit of engagement may of saved saygus all them refunds.

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I honestly didn't really find the fifty dollar savings a real deciding factor towards getting pre register. I would have probably bought it at full price if thats what i would have done. Saygus v2 just seemed like a phone i got to have, and it still does.. $100 overnight shipping? id do it.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
A new Video Review by Gadgets tech released on 23rd April.

Please see the link below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovku7ooWeMY&feature=autoshare
[Saygus V²] MadBob:
Shocking robovoice crap, don't bother watching
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
I forgot that shipping is from China. May 25 will not be holiday in China and Chinese may work over the weekend
[Saygus V²] mastewman:
Coming to realization....

Here is an article that was posted yesterday.... http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sayg...hoto-samples-from-21-megapixel-camera_id68612

:fingers-crossed:
[Saygus V²] MadBob:
Here is ther exif info for the images.
[Saygus V²] tocirah1:
I'm definitely getting different EXIF data:

Lens:	4.8 mm

(Max aperture f/2) (shot wide open)

Exposure:	Auto bracket exposure, Manual, 1/189 sec, f/2, ISO 50

Flash:	Auto, Did not fire

Date:	March 7, 2015 2:49:45PM (timezone not specified)

(1 month, 16 days, 19 hours, 35 minutes, 20 seconds ago, assuming image timezone of US Pacific)

File:	4,394 × 3,507 JPEG (15.4 megapixels)

7,033,287 bytes (6.7 megabytes)
[Saygus V²] jimmyhauser:
For those disappointed by the lack of 810:

http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...hermal-throttling-examined-compared-socs.html
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
I was stoked when I read that. Basically, the 810 is slower than the 801 because of excessive thermal throttling.
[Saygus V²] MadBob:
Which image and which exif app?

I did this on the 3 dropbox images and used a Windows app exifview, but it should report the same details?
[Saygus V²] tocirah1:
hmmm. The name of the file is

IMG_20150307_144944932_HDR.jpg

I tried viewing the EXIF data in Windows by clicking the "Details" tab in the "Properties" dialog, as well as on: http://regex.info/exif.cgi

The image in question is the HDR image. The other two images agree on f-stop
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
they just posted on Twitter regarding 810 heat problems.

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27 days :)

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Homemade drop test video by Saygus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSTM8bE-xlk&feature=youtu.be

Source: Saygus Twitter
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
Anyone wanted beta test ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSTM8bE-xlk
[Saygus V²] bag123boy:
They could have use a goPro for better video.. But I'm happy with them hearing us out. Keep the good work.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
24/7 live chat available on www.saygus.com
[Saygus V²] blhd2:
I hope its Less than $25 USD. But whatever it will be, I really don't care. I just want my V2. ( I'm pre-order #1060 baby!)
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
It is now officially supported 200GB mucroSD. Source: official Saygus website :)
[Saygus V²] tightos:
As per live chat with Saygus CSR tonight......F.Y.I.

Welcome to Saygus 24x7 Live Chat Support

Samuel Rhodes

Support Agent

Good

Samuel Rhodes

Hello, Welcome to Saygus 24x7 live chat support. How can I help you today?

Client

Hi.....will the WiHD device be available for purchase and shipping when handsets are being shipped?

Samuel Rhodes

Hello

Yes we will make it available when are closer to shipping the phones

Client

any word on the price?

Samuel Rhodes

We are working on make it the most affordable receiver in the market as the current ones are roughly $200 to $400.

We will have the pricing soon

Client

ok.....and Team Saygus tweeted a recommended micro SD card that was available on Amazon. I noticed that they said it was recommended in order for the phone and data to be protected when submerged in water. Does it have to be an "Extreme" micro SD card......or can just any card work under water?

Samuel Rhodes

I apologize but i do not know the answer to this. I need to check with my technical team for this. Can we get back to you by email?

Client

sure.....it's roger_?????????@?????.com

Samuel Rhodes

Thank you Roger.

Client

I just have one more question for now. I watched the "drop test" video and noticed that the back cover was quick to come off the device.......is Saygus attempting to reach out to phone case manufacturers to make cases for the V2? If the answer is yes.....with whom?

Samuel Rhodes

We have no current plans to make cases, but are considering options. We made the phone tough enough so it won't need one, however, we have been receiving quite a few requests for it.

Client

ok....thanks a mil.....I appreciate your answers and look forward to getting an email to answer the micro SD card question.......I want to be sure to buy the right card for the phone and not lose my data if my phone gets sunk.......can you also confirm the phone's final data capacity/support for external micro SD cards b.t.w.? There were discussions about support for something like a 500 GB card.

per slot

You rated our customer service as good.

Samuel Rhodes

You are most welcome. We will get back to you as soon as possible. I will also get our technical team to comment on the storage capacity as well.

Client

Thank you.......have a great night!

Samuel Rhodes

You too have a great night :) Thank you for visiting us.
[Saygus V²] guent_peer:
accessories section will soon open

Welcome to Saygus 24x7 Live Chat Support

Client:

I have already ordered the phone a while ago. The removable battery is a very important feature for me, as I do a lot of travelling. and I definitely need at least two spare batteries. When will they be available for ordering?

Samuel Rhodes

Support Agent

They will be available very soon for ordering as we are nearing the shipping date.

And if you had per ordered using the Promotion Coupon Code. You will receive an extra battery

Client:

Unfortunately I was a little too late for that. Thank you for answering and greetings from Germany!

Samuel Rhodes

Ah i see. We will soon have the accessories section open.
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
thats realy great man:)
[Saygus V²] Ahg3r1:
:good:

I have 5 pre-registered emails if someone wants... ;) PM me.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Doubting minds ,please read this carefully!
[Saygus V²] Jan de Mor:
great news! I've just talk with Saygus with the new 24/7 chat service and they confirmed that after my forced refund (my cell died and couldn't wait until june) I can attempt for the new offer.

Time to think and calibrate If I can afford the money and invest on the v2, which obviously if it's all that Saygus promises, it's a must have

Have to say this new service is great, they answer immediately and clearly. I'm sure If they had featured that from the beginning a lot of refunds would be avoided...
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
What do you mean you can attempt for the new offer?
[Saygus V²] Jan de Mor:
I pre-ordered and then asked for refund.

Now Saygus offers to pre-registered ones who did'nt order to get pre-order offer (550$ plus extra battery and screen protector and headphones). Just until may 1st
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Oh. Really? Didn't hear about this.

Anyway I am pretty sure I got the preorder package back! Just ordered with the coupon code "v2isyours" which one of the representatives provided me. Takes off 50 and according to him I will get all of the extras! Super excited I am able to get the preorder package again!
[Saygus V²] Jan de Mor:
That's it!

Finally Saygus bringing some good news... New chat, pre-order offer again, some tweets and videos... Not 100% convinced, but seems they're (slowly) on the right way
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
So what were you charged at checkout? $599 and you are looking to be refunded the 50?
[Saygus V²] tipocool:
Wow! What a slap in the face to those of us who pre-ordered and paid at the beginning of February. Thanks for nothing Saygus, you really know how to treat your loyal customers. What's the point of having a pre-order special if you're just going to offer it again 12 weeks later? It doesn't look like Saygus has any idea what they are doing or any type of plan in place.

The longer this mess drags on, the more of a joke it is becoming.
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Why is it a big deal? You are still getting the same package for the same price. They are trying to get more people on board by continuing to offer the promotion. Doesn't affect you at all.
[Saygus V²] tipocool:
Really! They've had our money for over 2 months. We were supposed to have a phone by now. If you didn't take advantage of their pre-order special for whatever reason, so be it. They are showing complete disregard for those that pre-ordered. Of course, you don't see it that way because you are now able to take advantage of the pre-order price (with all the extras it seems). It may be good for you, but it reeks of bad business to me.

So I guess you're right, it doesn't really affect me at all. :rolleyes:
[Saygus V²] Jan de Mor:
You're right in your point. Even if I'm rewarded with this second opportunity I think people who pre-ordered in february must have the extras and now saygus just should offer the 50 bucks discount and the headphones, then they offer a special benefit for the firsts followers.
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
I had a preorder til a week ago before all of the stuff they posted. I canceled because I got nervous about the whole thing and then regretted it. Now it give me a second chance to get it again. I haven't had my money the whole time either...

Im not the only one either... A lot of us had preorders and canceled because the lack of communication. Saygus realizes they f-ed up and now they are trying to get all of those people that canceled back.
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
+1
[Saygus V²] tipocool:
So you cancelled, changed your mind and expect to get the same deal. By your logic, if you buy something, then return it, then change your mind 2 months later and decide to buy it again, the retailer is obligated to sell it to you at the original sale price. Well, aren't you lucky that you and Saygus both share the same f-ed up logic! I'm sorry if you aren't able to wrap your mind around the fact that this kind of business practice pisses people off.

I can see that my point has fallen on deaf ears so I'll quit while I'm behind and just be grateful for all Saygus has done for me. Oh wait......... :rolleyes:
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Sorry for being a college student without a surplus of money in my bank account. It's not an easy decision to just drop 550 for everyone.

And I don't see the need to talk condescendingly towards me. I'm sorry that you can't just be happy for someone else in a community like this.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
It makes no difference to me whether pre registerers getting another chance. All i care about is May 22nd
[Saygus V²] Jan de Mor:
You can reiterate again if you please, of course.

I think we got your point, but I'm not going to debate about your vision of saygus plans for the next weeks. We'll see.
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Seriously, people being greedy as hell. What difference does it make if someone else gets the same deal as you. You are still getting so much for 550. What more do you want?
[Saygus V²] Jan de Mor:
That's true and obvious, but I also understand those who want their commitment rewarded with a special privilege. I've been there, and I consider those who stood from the beginning deserve a consideration coming from Saygus. For me it'd be fair enough.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
I want, at least, Screen Protector for FOC although I did not pre-registered but pre-ordered. Screen Protector will not be easy to find in the market.
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Yea i mean I understand but theres no need to complain about other people getting a good deal if you are too. Can't we just be happy for each other in a community like this? Why does everyone always have to compare?
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
The more the merrier. I figure the more they sell, the more accessories 3rd parties will make for the phone.
[Saygus V²] sonhy:
I will definitely not be using mine and im sure some other ppl too - so id say there will be some way for you to get one :)
[Saygus V²] tipocool:
Respect. However, that is a concept that Saygus does not seem to understand. I don't believe the people are being greedy but some do seem to have a healthy sense of entitlement. Saygus is just making a desperate attempt to claw back some money from people who cancelled their pre-order or didn't take advantage of the pre-order window when it was available to them. I'm not begrudging you or anyone who takes them up on this 'new' offer.

I do take issue with the way Saygus seems to be making this sh*t up as they go and I've told them as much. I don't expect anything other than their standard template response because to date I have yet to receive an answer to any specific questions I've asked. They are great at giving vague replies and choosing to ignore questions as they see fit.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Normally, i don't put in my devices in cases. I just use Screen Protector only and may be skin for back panel. I have to wait for Screen Protector. Hopefully, Saygus can ship it together with the device (IF I can order accessories before shipment).
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
This is normal timing. If your company has a plan. If you do it Saygus way- some naives might wait for 4 months. Me being the first one, LOL. I am just happy for other people that got the 2nd chance. Not so fair to me, but no biggie. I don't need to feel exclusive and smarter than other people that can have the same deal now. The biggest cheat for me is usb3-gate. Still pissed about that and still not sure how can you use just "some features" of a protocole that is standard. Still dont have an explanation about the difference of this frankenstein being connected in usb2 and usb3 slot.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
Think i might buy for the second time after canceling a couple weeks ago. That drop test really impressed me. The ability to root out of the box and install xposed and gravity box is a huge plus.
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
I just asked the the live support about the camera sensors used in the V2 and i got this replay

The V² features a 21 Megapixel rear camera with Auto Focus and Optical Image Stabilization (OIS). This camera is of high quality and made to take some of the best pictures a phone can take. The auto-focus is quick and the OIS goes a really long way to make your images look sharp. This is specially noticeable in low light situations.

The camera app comes with the Operating System and is the same as on other Android phones, so you should feel familiar with the controls.

Included in the settings are the HDR function and the flash function which also work similarly as in other high end Android smartphones.

These functions coupled with the dual light sensors combine to give you an easy time taking sharp, clean, balanced, and overall great quality photos and videos.

The

forward camera features the same specifications except for it being a 13 Megapixel camera

. You'll be able to take the best "selfies" imaginable!

Than i asked again if is the sonsors are from

Sony Exmor RS™ IMX230?

and there replay was

Sorry but I don't have this specifics. I will research this so that I can give you the most accurate and up to date information. I will need to create a ticket for your question and we'll get back to you via email with the information. We appreciate your patience, and if there are any updates, please reply back to this ticket.!!!

forward camera features the same specifications except for it being a 13 Megapixel camera

is that mean the same sensor in both? and which type:confused::confused:

:rolleyes:
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Certain people around here should stop being such $h!tter$ What do you care if someone you don't even know has something good happen to them...... the human ego is unreal..... and the creators only mistake.

Can't wait for real reviews and real world usage of this device. When I know that EVERYTHING is working. That's when I'll get mine.

* look down for the lost ego lol
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Certain people should stop qualifying others and focus on the phone
[Saygus V²] tightos:
I got this response via email today:

Roger,

If you want your memory to be safe on your SD card, you MUST use the Extreme card only. Other cards are not made for water or dirt, but the Extreme is.

We are actually getting ready to get some covers designed and produced for the V Squared since there is so much demand for it.

Hope this was helpful!
[Saygus V²] t3chfan:
I am one of the 'vocal cancellers' and have been watching the recent updates with quite a bit of regret.

I've not looked into this new offer yet, but if I can now give saygus back the same amount of money that I did on day 1, and get the same package (discount, screen protector, headphones, extra battery) then I would almost certainly take them up on that.

And yes, I think I would be a bit p*ssed off if the shoe was on the other foot and I was getting no 'reward' for my commitment and belief.

But this backs up what some of us have said all along - saygus is a business first and foremost, they are not doing anything for our benefit they exist at this point to make and sell as many phones as possible.

- edit, just did a live chat and I wouldn't get the SQGL headphones if I re-pre-ordered, that's fine as I can't stand ear buds and would never use these.

Really tempting, I will see what info they release before this offer expires on may 1
[Saygus V²] orld:
CDMA vs GSM

I am thinking about using V^2 on Project Fi from google. Would it be even possible?

For right now google allows only Nexus 6 for it, so time will show.

That is leading to another question,

I am trying to figure out Ting for Dallas, TX area with good LTE coverage. Would it be better to go with GSM or CDMA? since they support both.
[Saygus V²] Soltkemecsei:
About the pre-registration re-offer.

Those who ordered the V2 for $599 might have a bad taste about it, but this is a pre-registration benefit.

This deal is good for the pre-registrators as now they can correct their mistake. ;)

This deal is good for Saygus, as they get more funding, and they will have a larger user base right at the beginning.

This deal is also good for the loyal pre-orderers, as larger user base means more active 3rd party and community development. I do not have any bad feeling, as the earbuds (that maybe we can opt for a WiHD receiver!) is still only our compensation.
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
At the moment, Fi is only for the N6, but there's much better prepaid plans out there that are phone-independent from other carriers.

Ting uses Sprint's native network (don't think there's any roaming), but since DFW is a major metroplex, I suspect Sprint to have good Spark (Tri-band LTE) coverage. Check the coverage maps for Sprint's other prepaid offerings (Virgin/Boost) to get an idea what their native (non-roaming) network looks like.

Ting will be offering T-Mobile service at a later date. Similarly, it'll be T-Mobile native network only. From what I've read, TMO has launched 20Mhz Band 4 LTE in most of the DFW area, and are in the process of rolling out Band 12 (better coverage) as well. Check some TMO prepaid offerings (TMO Prepaid/MetroPCS) to get an idea what their coverage will be like.

I spoke with a Saygus live agent earlier today, and asked them what the situation was with the CDMA radios. Apparently the launch V2 will only have GSM radios...

So unless the agent was really confused or didn't know the correct answer, those who want to use the V2 on CDMA networks should probably hold back for now.
[Saygus V²] kensayers:
Location of Samuel Rhodes

I received an email with the chat log from my chat with Samuel Rhodes yesterday a while after ir finished.

I asked about the chat availability, and he responded that they were open 24/7.

Looking at the email it seems that he is based in Dubai (1st line Samuel Rhodes (Sat, 4/25/2015, 04:44:18 am Asia/Dubai)

The vibe of the chat was very positive.

At present I'm working on a major project with Telstra (the dominant telecom operator in Australia and the old monopoly). and I heard that our director was looking for relationships with handset manufacturers to support advanced services such as Wi-Fi calling among others.

As a result a ticket was raised and I was assured that the management would respond to my 3 outstanding tickets.

He assured me that independent reviews would be available in the next few weeks.

Must say the responsiveness was impressive. Every time I logged onto the web site they asked if I needed help.

My biggest concern with Saygus from day 1 is if they can get the volumes required to make this product viable, but to quote Mr Rhodes "everyone here is very positive", so perhaps they have found a sweet-spot which the others have missed.
[Saygus V²] strikelight:
If by 3rd party development you mean ROM/software development, then yes, quite possibly. If on the other hand you mean accessories, I can pretty much assure you that as great a phone the saygus has the potential to be, it will still not garner enough

of a user base to motivate companies to produce 3rd party accessories for it. I say this from lessons learned from the Nexus 4. Nexus 4 naturally had more buyers than you can expect saygus to have, and yet decent, quality, nexus 4 specific accessories are hard to come by.
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Well said. We should be happy for fellow users. Not lash out like jealous children.

I hope Saygus can get as many pre-orders as possible as well. It will only make the device better in the long run..... imagine some sweet custom ROMs and/or some xposed goodness. Mmm.... :p

Best of luck these last couple of weeks Saygus!
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
I also feel that it is quite disingenuous of Saygus to now offer out the pre-order price & benefits to everyone else again. They've had my money for almost three months now and then all these new pre-order customers can now walk on late in the game and get the same benefit that all the early birds who've patiently waited are getting.

If Saygus up'd the ante for the original, February pre-order customers by offering, perhaps those original 2000 or so customers a free WiHD dongle, that would certainly reward the original pre-order customers and still give the sense of the original customers the thinking the early bird still got the worm.

We forked up or money first and stuck with our commitment to Saygus, the value of the reward has diminished substantially now that everyone else is again eligible to receive the same reward we've waited for.

For Saygus to not see this logic is quite disrespectful to the original customers, but, hey, whatever, it is all about them making money. No real rewards for loyalty these days.

Call me a sour grape, but that's how I feel.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
If you are getting what you were promised when you pre-ordered then their is no reason to complain. I don't care if they give people ordering now the same as I got. It's not like this affects my order. I really wish people wanted to talk about the phone more and gripe less.
[Saygus V²] prasathvishnu:
The phones will be shipped on first come first server basis. So, the early bird customers will be getting their phones first. The new customers will be able to get their hands much later (a month or more).