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[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
I'll salute Saygus when the phone is released and working. ....thanks. Consumers remain "poor" even when following blindly. That being said... I hope things are going well for the V2 and we get ours soon!
[Saygus V²] porkandbeans:
I agree with you. It is my opinion that Samsung is planning on making more profit by screwing the consumer over. By eliminating the micro sd card slot, consumers are lead to buy over priced fixed storage amounts, knowing that many will most likely buy 64gb or higher storage models. The battery is small, so that Samsung could create another model of the phone, with a bigger battery in it, thus getting more money. I love how most reviewers state how gorgeous the S6's screen is, then do battery tests with the device only set to half brightness, or on auto brightness, so the battery life looks better than it actually is. Don't be surprised when Samsung come's out with another model that is water resistant as well, thus getting even more money from more consumers. Is this really all about functionality, or is it really about profit? Anyways, I'm glad that I'm going with the Saygus V2 and avoiding this.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Yeah. IMHO, Saygus' lack of communication is the lesser of the evils out there when it comes to smartphone manufactures.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Why?

You guys all realize that these are businesses right? Samsung, Apple, etc... Are not charities and of course they are about profit, just like the companies most of us work for. You don't HAVE to buy anything from them. They are going to keep trying to find ways to make money because they are businesses not because of some vendetta against consumers.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
And they will produce models and bills feature by feature. You know it is soooo hard to make SD card AND removable battery. Thats just too much! And expensive. Both features for, say, three times the money. And then we have: WIHD (model xy with SD, no removable battery), then waterresistant model (without SD), then there is fingerprint model, but that one can't be charged without wire....etc, you get the picture. When they make one with 80% of all the specs wanted it will be super cool advertized (hype included in price), and there won't be removable battery AND SD in that 80% of specs. That is just iPhone all over. Perversion of Android. No versatility, just plain corporation greed. I want this Saygus to go over the roof just for sake of Samsung, Apple and HTC and their greed and blackmail.

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If you want flagship (so you can keep it for a year or more), you HAVE to buy it. This is not business but greed, let us call it the right name. It is interesting how low processors are able to keep removable battery and SD card at the same time. Only thing is- new OS makes them slow and their customer nervous.
[Saygus V²] porkandbeans:
I understand that companies are businesses that are geared to make profits. I was simply making the point that Samsung, who previously made one of the leading Android phones, and of whom devices I previously owned, S3, S4, Note 2, and Note 3, totally changed their business model and eliminated features on their phones which were a benefit to consumers, such as micro sd slots and removable batteries. Samsung could have made the S6, while keeping previous features, but didn't. Samsung going to a tiered storage model without removable storage smells of nothing more than corporate greed. Taking away things which gave Samsung an advantage over others, only to apparently imitate other business models, doesn't benefit the consumer. It just makes consumers look for phone alternatives. But soon, like many out there, I am abandoning Samsung devices and shall have a Saygus V2, which is far superior. Come on May 22!
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
My comment wasn't really directed at you and I do understand the complaints. As for Samsung, I think they have kind of lived on reputation since the s4. I have their tab 4 10.1... It is weak and I wish I would have purchased a lenovo or a jide. I also am not sure their motivation for getting rid of the SD card slot or the removable battery, features people obviously liked.
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
I had my pre-order canceled and now I am regretting it... I just emailed them back to see if I can get it back lol. So many mixed emotions about this!
[Saygus V²] orld:
FM radio & Glonass

I could not find information on couple of things.

Does the phone support FM radio? similar chipset like it is in LG G3 Dual-LTE and HTC One (E8) has FM on board.

Also about navigation does it support just GPS or GPS + Glonass?

PS: maybe andreas5232 can add it to the list of questions ...
[Saygus V²] strikelight:
Someone earlier in the thread sent a message to saygus asking, and they replied that it will include FM radio. Whether it will or not, that's another question. (Post #133)
[Saygus V²] rammjet:
Almost all cellphones have FM built into the chips in the phones. Almost all cellular providers in the US block it from being used.

I cannot yet post links. Do an internet search for: "fm on cellphone"
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
freeradioonmyphone.org
[Saygus V²] rammjet:
Thanks.

Also do a search for the very recent article with this title, originally posted on the npr blog: "The Hidden FM Radio Inside Your Pocket, And Why You Can't Use It"
[Saygus V²] Jan de Mor:
Before my pre-order I asked Saygus especifically about that because for me the fm radio is a must in my phone. They confirm it, so you can count on it
[Saygus V²] tocirah1:
Evidently Saygus as a company was recently verified by Dun & Bradstreet?

https://www.dandb.com/businessdirectory/americansmartphoneinc-southjordan-ut-37499229.html
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
I agree with you that these companies are not doing real rightful business.Instead they are cultivating pure greed.And [MENTION=6417622]Boom515[/MENTION] seems to be devil's advocate!

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I have tried my best here to compel most of the customers not to cancel their pre-orders saying that they would regret once the phone begins delivery.That is becoming true even before the delivery begins!
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
Thats what i also trying some how to do :good::)
[Saygus V²] SaygusV2:
Thank you!

Thank you for the great feedback, we really appreciate everything that has been said about our new V2 phone! We hope you have all pre-ordered the phone, the phone is due to ship May 22nd!

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Thank you for all of your support! We are so excited to release a phone that everyone can enjoy. We are just as excited for May 22nd! Thank you for being a loyal customer!!
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Any "basic" info or updates?

Specifically.... has the device been water tested yet? Does the fingerprint scanner work? Do both mini SD card slots work?

Would be great to get updates on this stuff.

Wish you guys at Saygus all the best!!!!! But some basic info would be great. We here at xda (and I'm sure all of us feel the same) can't wait for this device!

Thanks

Long time XDA member.... Chuck

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Whats "real rightful?". In business????..... don't kid yourself. It's always about the bottom line!

I understand you are super excited about the V2. So are 99% of us here including myself. It was the lack of info and communication that pissed people off.

And there's no need to feed the trolls either.

Cheers
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Only a month away! I'm ready for it!
[Saygus V²] orld:
official forum section

Since company is presented here, would it be reasonable to allocate forum space for V^2. ?

I would love to hear about how Saygus going to incorporate community development ideas and level of feature exchange with 3rd party ROMs.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
Glad to see Saygus has finally made their way on to this forum! Overdue, but certainly very welcome.

Best wishes Saygus and welcome aboard.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Saygus keep their promise. Now, they improve communication with us as they promised. :)
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
Hi Saygus.

Its realy nice to see some boday how present the company here :)

Can u provide to us more detailed official information about the front and back camera !?

Also as u promised us with more sampels from both camera in all lighting conditions :))

We support ur work but also we need some information regard that....thanks
[Saygus V²] kensayers:
FM Radio

Strange...

The FM radio was in the early list of specs but seems to have disappeared!

I guess this was a component which didn't work in the time frame they needed...
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
This is a Facebook post by "Alicia De Leon"

Hello! All, Sorry for the silence! We are working very hard to get this phone out to you all! We are currently assigning people to handle social media for us, as we can't always do it ourselves; as we have other tasks and duties that take precedence. It is not our intention to ignore you or keep you in the dark, the reality is at this time we all are taking on many tasks and responsibilities outside of our outlined positions to make this all happen. That being said I know you will understand that we can't be everywhere at once as that is humanly impossible. Once we get our social media team fully set up, things will be updated in a more timely manner. Thank you all for your tremendous support and belief in our vision to bring to the world the best smartphone on the planet.
[Saygus V²] porkandbeans:
I am interested in the WiHD dongle as well. I hope its ready by the time my Saygus V2 preorder ships, so that I can add it to my order when I pay for shipping. I can't believe we only have about a month left! My hopes and dreams are becoming a reality! Soon you will be mine! All mine! My precious!! Gollum...
[Saygus V²] Windswept7:
FM Radio

This was the response Saygus gave me when I opened a ticket about the FM Radio:

"Thank you for contacting Saygus. We apologize for the delay in responding to your inquiry, we got a bit backlogged. There has been much excitement around the V² and we’ve been working around the clock to make sure to release the very best smartphone possible. We can hardly wait to begin shipping.

To answer your question:

V² features a built-in FM radio receiver which uses your headphones or ear-buds’ wires as an antenna."

So that is good news in my book.
[Saygus V²] Zinguy:
I'm out

I requested cancellation of my pre-order 3 days ago. No response from Saygus yet.

I am still hoping that Syagus brings this phone to market,

especially now that I am actively looking for a phone to buy in its place and not finding anything remotely as desirable.

For me this is a simple game theory, risk/reward decision.

I will buy the V2 when it is released.

The $50-150 savings of having it on preorder is a relatively small reward since I can afford whichever phone I want. (headphones, battery, etc. not really additional incentive for me) As we approach four weeks to ship date without any announcement from carriers about compatibility, without any FCC info, without any info on beta testing, the risk of this being vaporware increases and with that increase, risk of losing the whole $550 outweighs the reward of saving $50-150.

Looking forward to joining you all as a Saygus owner slightly after you have your fantastic new phones in hand.

Since I am sure there are other optimistic skeptics like myself who remain on this forum after cancelling, can anyone tell me how long it took for their cancellation to be processed? Thanks and ever hopeful about the VSquared, Zinguy
[Saygus V²] Jan de Mor:
I've done the same. Already bought a new cheap phone that I surely will sell if the reviews of the v2 talks about a succesfull device as incredible as we all expect. My refund ticket was responded in about 36 hours and the money came back to my bank account in 5 days aproximately after that, so really good answer from Saygus in my case.
[Saygus V²] :
Thread cleaned. Any more disrespectful posts, religious talk or bickering and the thread will be closed.

And all 3 of those things are not allowed on XDA, please reread the site rules if in doubt.

Thanks,

Darth

Forum Moderator
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Welp. Looks like I'm not going to get my preorder back...
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Critisizers of Saygus, please see this link

http://www.eastcoastdaily.com/2015/...6-edge-being-sold-in-japan-sans-samsung-logo/
[Saygus V²] enzo ferraro:
Geezer Hanging In

Thanks, Darth. I'm an old fart, actually coming up on 82 in September, so you can understand my concern about when, or whether, the V2 will materialize. My Moto G is running great just now, and I'm very happy with it, but the Saygus was too hard to resist, especially because of the OIS camera and the removable battery.

I ordered the V2 during the first week, and I'm planning to stick it out until the very end (May 22) before I make any

contrary decisions. I am delighted with the information posted on this site, and the speculative comments are often very thoughtful, although I suppose Saygus is a very small company, and I visualize everybody there beavering furiously to get this thing out on schedule.

More feedback and stroking would be great, but if all are tied up on other projects, then so be it.

Miracles weren't promised to be immediate when the phone was announced, and I appreciate your enforcement limiting comments to the phone, and not wild speculation about business ethics or practices, or totally unrelated ephemera.

I'll sit tight for another month, and hope for the best.
[Saygus V²] sonwon:
Please don't close the thread and just deal with the problem peeps.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Sorry for your bad luck!So many cancellations which are irreversible now!!
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Maybe its better this way. I'm a college student with a girlfriend and car payments to make so I will probably need that money lol. Maybe over the summer once I am working everyday and I have seen some reviews I will make the jump.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Thank you Darth for cleaning this thread.And I am sorry if I had made any irrelevant remarks which were out of Saygus.I was compelled to make them seeing repeated accusations demeaning Saygus and it's phone being an ardent supporter of this company and also being in genuine need for this phone.

Once again thanking you for continuing this thread which is an absolute necessity for us...
[Saygus V²] funkbuqet:
[MENTION=6612890]SaygusV2[/MENTION]

Does anyone know if the phone has been certified by Sprint yet? I know the phone is capable of working on Sprint's bands, but last I heard it was still awaiting certification by Sprint for use on its network. As a Sprint user with a couple family members deep in contract still, This is the main thing keeping me away from the V2.
[Saygus V²] tocirah1:
As far as I'm aware, the phone has not been certified to work with any CDMA carriers (yet)
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Maybe they already have a "head count" on the free items? Only reason I can think of honestly.
[Saygus V²] hdtechk:
The only thing certification is going to do is say whether or not there going to sell it them self has nothing to do if it works on there network if have sim

And some at Saygus told me that Verizon wants there phone. That sounds good for some.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Hey Guys! :)

I've recently had another call with Chad and Chris. As Alicia already wrote on Facebook, they are all very busy getting everything well organized for the 22nd of May. Chad will be flying to China tomorrow, in order to meet with their local team, near the factory, and to supervise the manufacturing process.

Regarding the question, if May 22nd will be still the ship date, I've been told that they are on schedule and will start shipping on May 22nd. Unfortunately I don't have any concrete number of units, which will ship in the first batch, but the remaining devices will follow very soon.

Concerning the VAT issue for European customers I can spread some hope, as there are ongoing talks with probably the biggest distributor for IT stuff in Europe. Besides that there are also some negotiations conducted with a large European retailer, which has its headquarter in Germany.

Coming back again to the 'business' talks from earlier this day...

It's not that easy to compare Saygus with some of the other big players in the smartphone market. Saygus is still relatively small against the well-established companies and has considerably less financial means to achieve its goals. You should try to keep this in mind, when talking about Saygus. ;)

Moreover they want to give always the best and get better, where they have to improve. So they are really happy about every feedback, ideas or suggestions, in order to deliver you the best smartphone experience you've ever had. They really appreciate all your support. A great smartphone needs a great community to support it!

In case you're having trouble reaching them, just drop me a message and I'll take care of your concern. :)

I can understand your motivations and hope you took the right decision. Feel free to come back again, whenever you want to!

Nevertheless I want to point out that there has been an information about beta testing here: http://xdaforums.com/general/genera...-one-maybe-t2996443/post60160367#post60160367

Since we don't have any details about the FCC inspection yet, I'll try to get some more news on this in the next week.

Although this question has been answered almost ten times now: FM will be definitely supported. Hurray! :D

Not only GPS, but also GLONASS will be supported by the V² and both are already well tested and working.

As far as I know that's just the case with GSM/UMTS networks, but for CDMA the device has to be approved by the carrier in order to work with the specific network, as the carriers are having a device whitelist. See a detailed article about the difference between GSM and CDMA networks here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407896,00.asp

Just to repeat it: I'm always quietly following here and trying to keep the thread clean and my contributions helpful.

Apropos: Thanks for your endurance so far! In the end, this post got a little bit bigger than expected. :D

Best wishes from Germany,

Andreas
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Andreas...

Good stuff! Looks like things are coming together for Saygus. The fact that Chad is on his way to oversee manufacturing is huge! Hopefully all goes well.

Once this phone gets in people's hands and the device is at least as stable as any other device (granted, nothing is perfect ).... I think (as most of us here) Saygus V2 will really take off.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Thank you Andreas for the latest update.We are greatly indebted to to you for this self motivated,profitless service.

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[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
One month left people. I have complete confidence the team will make this phone happen. Anxiety is tough mistress when it comes to monetary situations.
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
Itching to see some videos of the V2 multibooting ROMS from the microSD cards!

Also hoping that the CDMA model will be out on the 22nd as well.

Anyone know if Saygus is planning on sending review units to major android phone reviewers before the release date?
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
As I already stated in my last post, there isn't a special CDMA model of this device. The V2 just needs to be approved by the CDMA carriers (e.g. Sprint and Verizon) and added to their device whitelist. ;)

Saygus has a list with some reviewers on it, who have already asked them for a review unit.

As far as I know, the pre orders will be served first and the review units will be sent out some days later. So it's rather unlikely to see any deep 3rd party reviews of the V2 before the 22nd of May.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
And that makes us first reviewers. Not sure if that is good or bad. Andreas, were you contacted by Saygus related to your role? Any chance to make you official?
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Hopefully, my order #2176 is included in the first shipment and can receive in hand by end of May.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Any info on the size of the first batch? 100, 1000, 3000, 10000?
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I don't mind being a reviewer.

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Me order # is 1473. Me thinks many refunds happened. Me thinks several orders before me got refund. Me thinks I could be within first batch. Me hopes so. :D

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Me thinks one v2 device does both gsm and cdma. They just got to be approved on the cdma networks. GSM you just slide your sim card in. Me loves the GSM networks.

I'm in a weird mood
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
And just think of how many people probably cancelled in front of you.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
For me that's a fact or privilege that comes with a pre order. You have to take the risk, but you have the chance to get things early. :D

Depends on your personal opinion, if it's positive or negative.

I'm in direct contact with different persons at Saygus, but right now I don't have any plans to start officially working for them. Please don't get me wrong, but currently I don't want to leave my recent situation and I've already got enough to do with studying, my half-time work and hobbies. ;)

But that doesn't mean, that I won't let Saygus recruit me in the future. :)

Right now the V2 and all my commitment for it is happening in my spare time and I didn't get any reward for it so far, except your appreciation. Thanks for all your support! :thumbup:

There aren't any details about production capacites and the size of the first batch yet. As soon as I've got any news on this, I'll let you know!
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Me thinks they should compensate you somehow. You've probably given some people here hope and confidence to keep their preorders.
[Saygus V²] waterplanet:
Camera lens sticking out?

Do you know if the camera lens sticks out so that it will prevent the device from lying flat on its back? It's a bit hard to determine from the photos.

I often use my phone while its lying on its back on a table, so it will be an advantage that it does lie flat.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
You're absolutely right! The whole Saygus team is very grateful for my support and the community work I'm doing and thus I'm confident, they will provide me some kind of reward in the near future.

Not sure, what kind of reward it may be, but it would be definitely awesome², if they could get one of the first units!

Man, I could do some testing of the camera, fingerprint, multi-boot, etc. and finally give it a short bath... :D *dreaming*

During my visit at the CeBIT in March, where I got my hands on different V² prototypes, I noticed exactly this 'bumpiness' caused by the rear camera. You can slightly see this problem on some of my pictures.

The bottom part of the device was lying quite flat and stable on the table, but the upper part with the camera on the back was kind of wobbly.

This problem could be probably fixed by adjusting the back cover shape a little bit.

In order to get this fixed in the final series, I emailed this issue to the production and engineering specialists at Saygus and here is the response I got one month ago:

Thanks for this valuable contribution, [MENTION=6614546]waterplanet[/MENTION]! :good:
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
I prefer lens to be as deep in the body as possible, to avoid scratching. We wouldn't want it to stick out too much, not just for the sake of stability.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
According to the pictures on Andreas's website, camera is a bit deep and it will not be easily scratched
[Saygus V²] enzo ferraro:
Geezer @ 1132

I ordered a V2 in the first day or two. I'm 1132, but I've always wondered where Saygus started the numbering system. I'm of the opinion they started at 1000 or 1001, kind of like your checkbook. In any event, whether the numbering began at

0001 or 1001, I'm hanging in and waiting for "D Day," D as in Delivery. Enzo.