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[Saygus V²] porkandbeans:
The Saygus V2 contains the new Sony IMX230 sensor, which the G4 does not. So the Saygus V2's camera and video capture should be breathtaking. Only time will tell which takes better pictures. But.. I wouldn't rule out the Saygus V2 until then.
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
about my question on EAP-SIM :
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Is anyone considering a universal holster type thing? If no official one is made. If so which one?
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Food for thought:

I'm thinking this may be the last full demo of the device from the UK. Exactly 2 months ago

[YOUTUBE]kQz2ne_woGY[/YOUTUBE]
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
I just hope Saygus doesn't go full retard and start charging $700 for the V2.... not willing to pay more than $600 for an almost two year old processor.

Because I remember them tweeting that they think the device is worth $700 to $800 lol
[Saygus V²] saantiago:
I wouldn't be surprised tbh.
[Saygus V²] MikeyMike01:
I really hope this phone is available very soon. No other phone announced, leaked, or (in my expectation) otherwise will be available for at least a year that compares or even comes close. There's literally nothing else I would even consider buying right now.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJZuN3aRYAU
[Saygus V²] Omegaclawe:
So... just to clear up some confusion... the LG G4 does not actually have Qi Wireless charging. There is a specific case you can get that adds support, but the phone itself? No.

While the G4 is my current back-up plan if the Saygus thing falls through, there are a few notable areas Saygus wins:

Battery Life - Lets assume, for a second, that the "battery saving chip" in the V2 is nothing, and has a net-zero impact or even slightly detrimental impact on battery life. In that case, the V2 has a slightly bigger battery than the G4 but also, needs to draw only half the pixels, has a smaller screen, and a lower power usage CPU/GPU. This should make it much longer... and if the power saving chip works even slightly, and the fractal antenna does improve signal, you'll get much better battery there, too.

Size - A bit debatable for some people, but for me, the G3 was a little too big. Incidentally, with similar screen to body ratios, the V2 is going to be small for a 5" device... slightly smaller than my old HTC One M7, in fact, which I find right at the edge of usability. YMMV.

Water Resistance - the G4 basically has none.

Storage - The V2 has twice the storage out of the box... and the built in storage is usually MUCH faster than SD Cards. Do I need more than 96 GB? Heck, I don't even need quite that much, but more, faster, internal storage is good.

Developer Friendliness - LG will do whatever they can to make it hard to root and install ROMs on their phone. Saygus offers me an easily unlocked bootloader. I'm pretty much going to be running Cyanogen or Paranoid or Omni on my phone either way, but Saygus promises to make this much easier, with far less time stuck on an awful OEM UI.

Front Facing Speakers - Yes, they make a huge difference.

I could hardly care less about WiHD at this point, and find the "battery saving chip" and "fractal antenna" claims dubious on account of not being tested at this point, and I haven't had quick charge or Qi Charging on a phone for it to become a big deal to me, but Saygus overall seems to be supplying the phone more in line with my wishes.

In the meantime, the phone is ugly and seems more power user focused... it's hardly going to "explode" so that everyone wants one... it might dominate its niche, but it will not displace Samsung or Apple in the popularity wars... not with this phone.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
Turns out the average smartphone user doesn't care about removable batteries or an sd slot.
[Saygus V²] alexanseris:
Wooooooooooooow

Woooooooooooooooow

Woooooooooooooooooooow

We started to hear stories about Saygus would take over Samsung and Apple. Congrats., weed started to roll out in XDA forum.

Next story, ''Saygus Inc. is planning to acquire BlackBerry devices and services''
[Saygus V²] theleftykid:
dude, the phome does not look ugly. the first reason why i bought the phone is the design itself. it is totally different from other phone and i very like its design.
[Saygus V²] BtotheT:
Maybe if there is a next generation it just might go shoulder to shoulder.

It's my favorite look atm, Rugged, Functional, Sturdy, I probly won't need any casing beyond the screen cover as well, Teflon looks to have a nice grip-ability, and it's Screen to size ratio percentage(75%) will be the highest on the market upon release by a 5% margin.

Looks ideal to me, I find the the tablet look of most other mainstream phones unattractive, slippery, and flimsy. Most are so thin they need a massive case which literally makes them tablet sized.:eek:
[Saygus V²] Purest:
Would be nice to raid 0 the SD cards.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I'm in it for the collection of features. G4 vs V2, The V2 suits my needs a bit better. Plus I'm a sucker for helping small businesses trying to get a leg up in a large business dominated industry. I will say, if V2 for some reason doesn't work out, G4 is my second choice definitely. Also, I'm not just any typical smartphone user, I'm also a computer nerd to the extreme. So that helps this decision too.

Features of the V2 I care less about, yet it is icing on the cake?:

WiHD, Qi, Fingerprint Scanner, Camera Quality, IR

Features of the V2 that made me drop what I'm doing to buy on Feb 5th?:

- Hot swap, and boot on either of the SD card slots.

- Root capable out of the box

- Durability (Waterproof, Kevlar, Magnesium frame, Gorilla Glass Corning 4)

- Battery life and Removable Battery (100% must have for me)

- Both CDMA and GSM networks.

- Will eventually be made in USA (I'm a patriot, what can I say :D)

- Sunlight viewability, I live in the Sunshine state :).

- Speaker sound quality

- Processor speed and reliability.

Edit: Forgot to mention, the average size. I need a phone I can reach everything with one hand. I also have more than a smartphone to put in my pockets. Five inches will work fine. If this was a phablet, I would not have bought it.
[Saygus V²] MikeyMike01:
I agree with you completely, other than the phone being ugly. I actually think their product renders are terrible, and that it looks pretty good in real life videos and photos.

I'd also add the fingerprint reader, since I find it invaluable on my iPhone 5s.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
What about Fingerprint Scanner,real waterproofing & WiHD Receiver?

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More over compare the price of G4 with that of V2

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The camera of G4 is not that much super when compared to that of Samsung S6.See the comparison done by Phone Arena.

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Appreciate your last para.You judged it correctly.Definitely you will be nailed as paid supporter or agent by the heros.I am completely in unison with your statements in the first para also.So let us be fools or idiots who are waiting for this phone as some others proclaim!
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
10 days to go. I keep on refreshing Saygus website to see updates. So exciting.
[Saygus V²] waterplanet:
Personally I don't care about the age of the processor. What's matter to me is real life performance.

I find it weird that many people just want the latest no matter what. They absolutely need to have Lollipop, even if its full of bugs and not stable yet, or SD810 even if it has serious heating issues. I really don't get it. I like that Saygus seems to do more conscientious choices on these matters, even if it will be unpopular among many potential buyers.

Time will tell how good the performance of V2 is compared to other flagships. My hope is that their less bloated software will compensate for the older processor, and that it will perform similarly as S6 and other competitors.

But even if V2 turns out to be somewhat slower than other phones, I still thinks the overall package makes it much more appealing than any other phone available today. At least from the perspective of advanced users and power users.
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
100% agree.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Supporting your comment.
[Saygus V²] sojizy:
I agree with you there. It's the whole package that matters.

The 2 deciding factors for me are the battery life and camera which if both knock it out of the park then I'll be extremely happy with this phone and recommend it to everyone i know looking for a new phone.

I don't think anyone here would say you are being paid by Saygus, we are all fans/people interested in the phone.

There are one or 2 things I wish were better but aren't a deal breaker for me,

1. Thickness of the phone

The phone is a brick, let's not mince words here. Some like it but I'd rather a slimmer phone. Considering what we're getting i understand space has to be made for it all but I'm just saying it would have been nice.

2. Design of the phone.

There isn't a person I've showed this to that hasn't complained about the way this phone looks. I personally don't mind it as much but after owning the Oneplus, s6 edge, M9, I'd have to say the images I've seen haven't been too appealing.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on the design
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
This phone is specifically designed for the non-average consumer.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
I like the design.

Most every device that comes to market "shows" great in video. The Saygus is showing it's own design, with a story behind the design.

I have owned and or played with 100 to 150 cellphones in my lifetime. In 80% of these cases, the fit/finish and feel portrayed in video were sadly lacking once in hand.

This iteration of Saugus is trying to set a new bar, as iPhone had done with it's all aluminum body. The Saygus with its aluminum frame and kevlar body are trying to improve on a flaw of the iPhone... it's all aluminum body. There's nothing worse than owning a beautiful ,expensive device and rushing out to get a case to protect it:eek:

The "sunlight viewable screen" will be a first for any android/iphone device. While not the same as a Kindel Paperwhite, this will be one for the ages.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Aluminium or Magnesium body?
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
I heard Chad say in an interview it was magnesium.

I like the design of the phone. It's a bit different than every other slab out there. And, it's not just one thing that's enticing me to get this phone; it's the sum total of all the features that contribute to an overall positive experience. That's why I liked the Moto X (2013). Everything from the screen size, to the design (feel), the clean (stock) UI, to the unlockable boot loader made it an awesome phone. I have the 2014, and its just too big for me. I won't consider a phone with a screen bigger than 5-inches.

Its ridiculous how many times a day I check twitter and this thread for new news, and its just not there. I know I need to chill, but the suspense is killing me.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Same to you. I am currently Moto X 2013 (XT1053). :)

Every 10 minutes, i refresh Saygus website and Twitter for new news.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Like...
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Design?

One major flaw: the bottom edge. It WILL break, crack and chip. You can carve it out of diamond, but if it's that thin- it will break. I like the story behind it, I like it because it is unusual, it is not gorgeous but I need a device, not a fashion statement. I am just worried about that thin bottom edge. And thank God someone stopped it at 5" with those specs!
[Saygus V²] sojizy:
I find myself checking social media quite often too. Then again I do this for any new technology that I'm getting. You should have seen me with the T-Mobile G1. I think thats when I had it the worst with people sharing up to the minute status updates with where their packages were. Aaah, Good times. I'm just getting into reviews myself as a hobby and I'm probably most excited to review this phone.
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Didn't someone address you earlier that posting a quoted comment with your inclusion of "Like..." is redundant? There's a "THANKS!" button below each post, just use that. It may sound nit-picky, but there is some general online forum ettiquette that should be followed, especially when tools like that are readily available and are programmed into the site.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
This is a General forum section.

I'm pretty sure teh modz is ok with this...... wait, yes we are:good:

It's different when you see a user quote the entire OP in a ROM/Development thread.

That said,

[ /HIDE] tags can be used.. if you ask a user nicely, they might use them.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
pnsdhrn's comments don't bother me. However I do find the complaints of pnsdhrn's comments to be borderline 'trolling' and 'flaming'.

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I probably check at least three times a day. I been moderately busy, as I'm a bartender--mothers day and prior week was very busy. But now it's dead and have more time off, i'm going to be here a lot lol. My co-workers keep asking me about the phone too, cause they want to see it and possibly get one too. I could literally make saygus twenty orders if it is as good as it's being advertised.
[Saygus V²] hdtechk:
As for back on V² subject who remembers all this? https://www.saygus.com/terms-conditions/
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Is there a notification light on this phone?
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Especially #6

I asked this question before I pre-ordered. It has multi-color LED lights.
[Saygus V²] porkandbeans:
Heck yeah! I remember the T-Mobile G1! I had an extended battery for it and everything! Talk about thick! But it was worth it! I hope that Zero Lemon comes out with a huge battery for the Saygus V2! Can you imagine this phone with a 10,000mah battery! OMG! Here's hoping!
[Saygus V²] kensayers:
Agree completely with Tony's comments about the 'sunlight readable display'. I went through a myriad of Palm 'Pilots' over the years and still am amazed that the old colour screen on my last Palm PDA was brilliant in direct sunlight! I am yet to see a smartphone which comes even close.

Let's hope that I'm amazed by the Saygus when I get my hands on mine.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Thanks.

BTW, Ken, do you know Chad? :laugh:
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Just saw this on reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/35rvw2/just_met_with_the_ceo_of_saygus_thought_id_share/
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
Strategic tactic to stall the consumers longer.
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Very well could be. I think it would be to bump up the phone to the 805. That seems to be the biggest thing that people are complaining about when looking at this phone.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
I guess that confirms no may 22nd (don't take this 100% seriously.)
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Hmm. An option that you'd need to swap the phone out to take advantage of. What could that be?
[Saygus V²] saantiago:
Stock options? That would imply saygus is/is going to be a publicly traded company. Either the CEO is extremely optimistic (and is probably looking for an IPO to raise additional funding, though that in itself is its own hassle) or something is very fishy about that post.
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
Maybe, maybe not.

Maybe they'll roll out a V2.5 in a few months with an upgraded processor.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
I'd be fine with that if I could get it just by shipping mine back.

Edit: Did anyone catch this?

"So sorry. :) The phone is plastic."
[Saygus V²] bob90210:
Not necessarily. Many companies offer stock options that have no chance of being publicly traded anytime soon.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I trust no part of that reddit post. Too over-the-top.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Thank you very much for the support and the kind consideration.

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Please don't act as a police man.And if you are actually a one it is for your country,not for this thread.There is moderator for doing that control in this thread.And coming to the point,I actually pressed the 'THANKS' button for his comment.But most of the men who made the post unlike you won't bother to see who had pressed the THANKS button for their posts.So I made a verbal act of liking his post in order to identify me. If my this post had made him any kind of unconfort, uneasiness or the like I beg his pardon.
[Saygus V²] strikelight:
Comments from the author of the reddit article mentioned that saygus is working on a battery drain issue.. This close in to the shipping date, and they are having issues with that (keeping in mind that there is supposed to be a battery saving chip to make the battery life even longer), still no word if the fingerprint sensor has been implemented inside the device yet (although they confirmed it works outside the device nicely).. There's probably other issues that need to be squashed as well that we don't know about, and still doubt that they've passed through the FCC yet...

With all this, if it is all factual, really makes it hard to believe the product will ship on the 22nd, atleast, a bug free product. :(
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I wouldn't put much faith in that post. Besides isn't Chad supposed to be in China overseeing production?
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
I thought he was back now? Would probably have to ask Andreas about that one.
[Saygus V²] strikelight:
True, but if it is factual, it feeds my theory that the big move for saygus, is simply them moving all their operations to Utah instead of China.. I play a scenario in my head where chad went to China and wasn't happy with the output or quality or something else, and said "forget this, we'll do it at home.. No more orders until we're set up!"..

I probably think too much.
[Saygus V²] s-lps3:
Tell me about it I'm not trying to wait any longer than 3-30-15 but I rather it come to me with good quality control instead of them trying to rush the product out with tons of issues and blame glue or what ever like another company.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
Nexus 5 size is perfect, even lg g2 with 5.2" was great because it was the same size as N5 with smaller bezels. Zenphone 2 is just a pitstop if you think N5 is the right size because Zp2 is the size of the Note 4 except way fatter and heavier. Cool features on the Zp2 though and can't say I'm not interested as well, bit the size....
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
I am planning on gettint the 128 GB but I am worry that the final product will not turn out as expected. But I do believe that they will make this product awesome with adequate support such as updates etc.

For the back cover, I too hope they have more varieties for us. Don't you think the size already big enough? I don't fancy any form of casing unless I am bringing this to some adventure camp etc..
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
I'm waiting for the price of the 128gb to go down under $60 but have a 64&32 I can use. I also wonder about a case and the need for it. Replaceable back covers for when they get worn and Kevlar front bezel might protect metal frame and front glass. I hope front Kevlar doesn't peel as if it's a cheap coating like the pre production models we saw from CES.

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What is there, like, 6 of us discussing this, 6?!?!?!
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
6 die hard fans lol
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
Die hards/phone geeks!

We need more interest or this thing isn't getting off the ground, c'mon Saygus! Is there a thread on android central or anywhere else that anybody knows about? Maybe XDA is too niche for many.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
What they claim about their superphone, may not be super passed April. :)
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I'd like a selection of back covers, I chose charcoal because I wouldn't want white at work. I saw a silver one on one display model and that looked cool. For me, I'll wait to see how I like the phone before getting any 128s. I'd like to be able to use one for work and one for personal so hopefully that's easy to sort out. I'm most worried about battery life and rear camera quality.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Saygus may receive many emails from those who are interested and they will be late to reply. I can understand that but they should, at least, update their website or twitter rather than silent.
[Saygus V²] s-lps3:
I know I was think about the case also how fat it would make things since the phone is on the thick side. I know when I had the flex I really liked the OtterBox case but it was really big. As for memory I think I'm going to wait till they get the speed up. I think max from Sandisk is like 45mb/s and right now I got a 64 with 80mb/s so I just might get another one and be good with that and just transfer stuff to my PC which I do anyways. I wish we could get more of a audience for the V2 but I guess its up to us to get the word out there. I went to T-Mobile the other day and was telling the three CS reps there, and they were like whats that. So people are clueless about this phone which is pretty sad.

I tell you what though over one the one Plus forum they are dogging the hell out of the V2. I felt like starting something over there but I figured I would end up getting no where. I just don't get all of the hype from a phone (one plus ) that has so many issues and made of plastic. That is the only thing they got on Saygus is a fan base. How can we build that.

As for the back I got white because I like the fact you could see the Fractal Antenna and might raise a few questions. But would buy more to change it up.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I'm a Oneplus phone user and oneplus forum user. Some of the people on that forum display cult-like devotion. As for the phone, it has some pros and cons. It's too big for my taste and the camera is decent at best. I will say that the battery life is incredible and the speakers are loud despite being poorly placed and do get a little harsh when turned up. OPO did a brilliant job of creating buzz and giving an illusion of scarcity. Like anything "rare" it reached a level desirability that is hard to match. I will miss TOL screen though lol.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
I agreed with you. At least some updates but I guess they have their reasons for doing that..

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I tend to believe that startup company usually have a better quality control as they cannot afford to handle so much problems later on which might affect their product reputation at the start..

What do you think?
[Saygus V²] sonhy:
com'on saygus... use all that free cash you guys are making from our pre-order payments, to get additional staff to update us on our pre-orders!
[Saygus V²] s-lps3:
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I tend to believe that startup company usually have a better quality control as they cannot afford to handle so much problems later on which might affect their product reputation at the start..

What do you think?

I guess it could go both ways but I would think that when you take your time with the construction of some kind you're more likely to have better quality. We all will have to wait and see.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Atleast on twitter there are some more people around the V². But I am not shure, if these are the same people as here on XDA.

If there have been about 2000 pre-orders, so where are the other 1994? :D

Maybe they started with their order-numbers at 1000?

BTW: Has anybody an idea, how much employees Saygus has?

In case you haven't noticed already, Saygus restructured their FAQs and added some new answers.

Can't say when they changed it exactly, because I'm not visiting their site everyday....only every second day xD
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
My order number is below 1000.

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