yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
lol I hear ya.

FB has become a joke. Twitter has become barely decipherable. This is becoming the last bastion of ANY information sharing and it would be a pity if it became like them, if it's not already.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
No info- nothing much to discuss. Is there?
[Saygus V²] vladser:
New design webpage wwwSaygus, write: Availiable now on Indiegogo:eek:
[Saygus V²] crazedgod:
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

searched indiegogo, but nothing turns up.. not sure what saygus is up to... isn't it a little late in the game to start crowd-funding? Am curious to see what the delivery date for the phone would be on indiegogo since they've used the same name (at least on their website)- Saygus V Squared

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
First off I'd say because there are hundreds of us always searching for Saygus related stuff I think all thats happened is we have come across the website before they put it on indiegogo. Chicken before the egg type stuff. Second it was always going to be crowdfunded. It's essentially a start-up company (I know I know, it's been around for a while but money doesn't show up from nowhere to make these things)
[Saygus V²] billybob4:
Damn being in the UK

If I was local I could have turned alcoholic for a couple of days to get some money back :D
[Saygus V²] minatour44:
crowdfunding again?????

This makes sense however

Given the order numbers i guessed they took about 6m usd ballpark , what about delivering phones before asking for more money from more people, i would be surprised if anyone shelled out money towards them if they didnt deliver on the original batch to the original pre -order guys, that would be plain madness wouldnt it?
[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
It could indicate how close they are to announcing a delivery date. I'd assume the video that they were getting ready for "Monday" (Monday being almost over where I am) is actually for the indiegogo campaign.

And you're right. Why have a campaign when the phones aren't ready? Could be the clue... ;)
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
And voila...
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
You see - they are following XDA forum ;)

Thanks! :good:
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
hahaha. could be but I'm assuming that they are just slow. I had sent them a few messages about their transfer utility and it did take quite a while for them to release it. now I'm happy ?
[Saygus V²] mklpickle:
USB Type C confirmed on Twitter.
[Saygus V²] theleftykid:
Are they really shipping on August? Galaxy Note 5 will be revealed soon on September. I am expecting a removal back case, if it happens I'm buying it instead of getting the Note 4. Who knows it might come with WiHD. That would be a plus..lol
[Saygus V²] ValtheBatman:
Why not just return it if you don't like it? Why go through the hassle of selling it on e-bay and potentially losing money?
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Yes. Agreed. We have 14 days to try the phone and if you do not like it, please feel free to return.

But please be optimistic and look on the bright side.. This phone is already a superphone.. I believed it will turn out awesome..

The worst you would want is for this unit to have manufacturing defect.....
[Saygus V²] ValtheBatman:
I hope it won't have any issues as I ordered one. I'm sure it will be the best phone, it is so far. My one and only concern was the SD card compatibility. Meaning, if we can install apps on SD cards instead of internal. Even though 64GB is a ton of internal storage, but it would be nice to have virtually no limit on how many apps you can install.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
This may be a possible option for the US customers, but for the buyers from the rest of the world it probably isn't.

If I sent it back to Saygus within 14 days, it would be a quite expensive 'fun' for me, because I will not get the taxes and import duties back. ;)

And as already mentioned, the only thing which could be a 'real' show stopper is a defective or poor quality device.

Software can be improved later either by Saygus itself or the community. :)
[Saygus V²] drago10029:
Anyone have a leaked released date or anything like that? I know there's no official info yet.
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Idk if we are gonna see anything leaked. They aren't a big company so there's less of a chance that info will slip out.
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
I hope some info is released by tomorrow since it is the end of the week
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Can't wait for new information!
[Saygus V²] drago10029:
i agree but you never know what people can get there hands on
[Saygus V²] jimmyhauser:
I preregistered, and when I preordered, I remember reading about the free battery and screen protector, but it is not in any of the confirmation emails, for those who were asking about that.

I am not too worried about the software. I have used alot of android phones, including Nexus, and I have never been impressed with any of the their software. They all had problems. Even my iphones have software issues. I just accept it as a fact of life.

The thing I am wondering is if the extra battery comes with a charger (like samsung offers). An extra battery doesn't do me any good if the only way to charge it is inside the phone.

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This.

I use Onedrive as a redundant backup (and for ease of access on my ipad) and sync of my documents between computers. But beyond that, I don't trust my files to "the cloud" nor would I store my music or videos there just to stream them to my phone and tear into my data allowance. Provider X wants my money to store MY data and provider Y wants my money to redeliver MY data. It's a conspiracy I tell ya.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I've been looking at Universal pin charger, many under 10 bucks
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
I have one of these from my nexus one/gs2 days. They work just fine. Plus I like to slow charge the batteries with it via usb :).
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Do you know what brand you have?
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
Anker. This is the one I have. It's a little dirty. Ignore that it's old :P.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Thanks so much
[Saygus V²] BiffTirkle:
I had the same one! Couldn't tell you where it is now. But it worked.
[Saygus V²] theleftykid:
Because I have to keep the phone for like 3 months and see how the developers makes perfect ROM for this phone. I have the NVIDIA shield tablet and I was very disappointed of how little the development with the ROM and kernels and the latest update of the firmware has plenty of bugs on it.

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The firmware running on the phone during CES 2015 is not running properly. Like there is trouble in running the camera app and seem like browsing the app drawer is laggy or slow. I know it is just a prototype and hopefully the one we getting would be running perfectly.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Yes.. a phone too buggy will not be too good to start with.. But no worries.. I am sure at the upcoming MWC, the final product will be showcase.

We are all keeping our hope high.. Its already March...

Just to clarify something.. Does it mean that having root access will enable us to move app to the sd card??
[Saygus V²] renjithrc84:
I am not an expert, but i think they are asking for the country and network to customize the fractal antenna according to the network provider.

You can check about fractal antennas in wikipedia.
[Saygus V²] theleftykid:
Yes. I use Foldermount from Playstore to move application data to my SD card.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
You're welcome.
[Saygus V²] jeeperz:
Looks like it has it in the demo photo
[Saygus V²] jcipactli:
Seems now the Indiegogo link is actually working!

And they haven't even started manufacturing according to indiegogo timeplan...
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Can anyone get to the Behind the Scenes and Camera Specs videos linked from their new video?
[Saygus V²] minatour44:
Just received email - dual sim :)
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Many things have been confirmed by them. Shipping in May 22, for instance
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
[YOUTUBE]06sOhfxwZTA[/YOUTUBE]
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
The Indiegogo timeline shows shipping in "fall". Do you think we are lumped in with them and will be waiting another 4+ months?
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
The Plan

January- March 2015 - manufacturing prototype

March - May 2015 Manufacturing partnerships

June - July 2015 - Carrier certifications

June - July 2015 finalize tooling

July 2015 - order parts

August - September f2015 assembly and QA Testing

Fall 2015 Shipment

Isn't Septemeber in fall? or what ?
[Saygus V²] vladser:
E-MAIL:

"Dear V-SQUARED Customer,

Thank you for your continued support. We wanted to update you on the status of the V-SQUARED as well as update you on our exciting new marketing event.

Phone Update

As we announced previously, the shipment of the V-SQUARED was delayed due to our need to switch production partners because they were not meeting our stringent quality requirements. We are now pleased to announce a great addition to the V-SQUARED that we were able to include because of this manufacturer change. We have added the capability for two SIM cards! This feature has been requested by many of you because – as you may know – this allows a user to switch between SIM cards for personal or work data or swap between carriers for plan savings. Additionally, the V-SQUARED will now come with Android 5.1 (Lollipop)! And finally, we are approaching the time for you to receive your V-SQUARED and will notify you of your shipment soon!

Indiegogo Campaign

We are also excited to announce the launch of an Indiegogo campaign starting today. Indiegogo is a great platform to assist us in bringing together a global community of technology enthusiasts who want to collaborate with us to create the future of mobility. Additionally, Indiegogo is another vehicle to let people know about the V-SQUARED and enable consumers to understand its unique features and their benefits. Please visit and share our Indiegogo campaign page at: http://igg.me/at/saygus. You will find lots of new, great photos and videos of the V-SQUARED. We are very excited to have been able to work with the Indiegogo Team. They have been outstanding to collaborate with as we have worked together to bring consumers our product!. We believe that this Indiegogo campaign will enable us to reach many more mobile users around the world and show them how the V-SQUARED can benefit them.

We appreciate your continued support and thank you for being as passionate as we are about the V-SQUARED!

Sincerely,

Chad, Tim and the Saygus Team"
[Saygus V²] xxDimxx:
Shipping in Fall 2015...

I know several who are going to cancel for the new Nexus...
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
I'm wondering how the funds raised to $850k +?. You might say this is for the previous pre-orders, but when you go to the funders' names list, you are gonna find these funds have been made two days ago. On the other hand, the selling in their website has been stopped since mid of May.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Well, the Autumnal equinox is September 23, so technically that is the first day of Fall, but that also means they have until December 22 for the winter solstice. Throw a dart at the calendar between September and December and the reality is we're still potentially waiting between two and five months.
[Saygus V²] ryanwoods10:
Indiegogo

Tried getting an answer from 24/7 support.
[Saygus V²] jcipactli:
I asked the same and he just said "no idea" seems last tweet confirms we're getting it earlier!
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
At least now we can figure out approximate number of preorders - about 1400. If this is true is very low then... But I doubt that this is real figure.
[Saygus V²] ryan49ryan:
On Twitter - "Our LOYAL Pre-Register customers get the phones currently being finished! Indiegogo buyers will be LATER. Hope you love the add on features!"

That was the first thing I was wondering when I saw the indiegogo timeline, glad they cleared that up quickly.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Does this indicate that they are on schedule?

Where did this schedule come from? (from to Indigogo)
[Saygus V²] ryan49ryan:
It's good to see another reputable face that wasn't previously affiliated with Saygus. Lewis was the same guy who did the first iPhone 6 Plus bend test and has done many good and honest reviews of smartphones in the past. He's actually from Toronto and and a friend of mine knows him, I doubt that he would put his name behind something that he could see is vaporware.
[Saygus V²] vladser:
My order 20** since 7 february and I'm still here
[Saygus V²] t3chfan:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-launches-mega-suspicious-indiegogo-campaign/

Probably a fair summary.

I'm still borderline interested but the processor still worries me, it will be positively midrange by the time anyone has the phone in their hands...
[Saygus V²] trompeusz:
Have anyone got his money back??

I've made a legal refund request(20 days <14 working days> after my pre-order) 3 weeks ago, but I didn't get nothing.

Today they deleted all my tickets, and I'm not able to make any new tickets.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
http://res.cloudinary.com/indiegogo...it,w_620/v1434373206/thfejsqhf7d50btki1ei.jpg
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Lol kenosis, you may want to change your sig;)
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Some have, but many are still be waiting.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Yes, I will change if shipping date is REALLY confirmed. :)
[Saygus V²] trompeusz:
That's sad. If they would deliver the phone in the next week, o would consider to cancel my refund request, but I'll go mad if I must stay till September with this Lenovo A328, after my Find7 was stolen.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
I checked till the first placed order!
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
I got mine, but it took them a ridiculous amount of time to respond, and when they did I had to wait another 10 days or so for the money to actually show up on my credit card.

That's super sketchy that they deleted all of your tickets though... When they responded to say that they had sent my refund or whatever they "closed" mine. I reopened it and told them I wouldn't close it until I saw the money on my account. Shortly after that I got a "receipt" email from them saying they had sent the refund. About 10 days later I did see the transaction on my account and closed the ticket. Not a great experience, but they did eventually keep their word. You should call them directly and ask though.
[Saygus V²] trompeusz:
I got back to Saygus.com, and now I can see the tickets, but when I try to open, I get a 404 page not found error.

The same thing happened with my ticket to, when they responded they closed it, but I reopened saying until my money doesn't appear in my account, the ticket isn't solved, so it can't be closed.

Since then it passed more the 10 working days. Hope I'll get it back soon.
[Saygus V²] vikramkhalsa:
Wow. All I can say is wow. I've been following this thread since day one, reading all the whining and complaining, seeing all suspiciously positive supporters, the jokes, the doubts, the controversies. I recall being super exited when I first found out about this phone, it really was a dream to have those specs in that for factor. I almost pre-ordered, then when they re-opened the pre-order promo I did submit an order but fortunately it got declined by my CC due to fraud protection. I was going to re-order but seeing their terrible customer service and unprofessionalism, i held back. The lies, delays really disppointed me but I still hoped that they would make it and maybe I'd get it after seeing some real reviews. I've been looking around but I can't find anything with a similar enough feature set at this size (<5 in). I had pretty much given up.. but now it comes to this? an Indiegogo campaign? Really? And making everyone who pre-ordered basically be a crowd-funding sponsor? All thse crowd-funding jokes and conspiracy theories basically turned out to be accurate. They took money form all these people, didn't deliver, and now they want more money!

Sure I know building a new phone is no easy task, but not delivering on time, missing all your own communication deadlines, immature grammar and communication.. I'm sorry but thats just unforgivable. Especially if you have failed once, AND you claim to have experts on your team. They should have known better. Don't make false claims and hype things up when you're so incompetent! What finally came clear to me through all this was if this is how they're handling the launch, god forbid if I ever need updates or service.. Its just not worth the risk.

For those of you hanging in there( crowd- funders) , good luck! I hope its worth it :)
[Saygus V²] raimondomartire:
On indiegogo price have vat inside for european guys. No respect for first order from europe. We must pay vat ( In Italy plus 22% on price)
[Saygus V²] Zinguy:
Nice summary

A good summary of the most recent development. Note: flexible funding campaign! Indie gogo is not on the hook to get you your money back. You are making a donation to saygus, not contracting to buy a phone. http://www.droid-life.com/2015/06/1...-at-e3-and-launch-indiegogo-campaign-for-now/
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
Do you have any news about VAT ?

My credit card has not been debited of VAT and no email about VAT ... only an email dealing with shipping price ;)
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Apparently this will all come in an email when they are ready to ship.
[Saygus V²] jimmyhauser:
I requested my refund on May 6th and it posted back to my credit card on May 7th (although, I don't think it actually showed up that day, it was probably 2-3 days later). I am in the United States.

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It is kind of crummy of them to now start a crowdfunding campaign. They should have done that back in February. Then people would have had to expect delays.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
this is just plain wrong if the preorders are now part of the campaign. looks like refund chances just ended.? this is getting pretty deep. i thought only non-profits and not corporations?
[Saygus V²] post_break:
Alarm bells are going off. This seems like such a scam. The fact that the fund was fluffed up by anonymous donors, the fact that they even need a funding campaign like this...
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
They can't hold you to that 'flexible funding'

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Don't start this. You didn't buy it through indiegogo so you aren't part of the campaign. You'd have to have agreed to the flexible funding terms. Don't go getting people rowdy with unfounded speculation
[Saygus V²] funkbuqet:
This is pretty disappointing news. With there record so far I can't imagine that anyone would actually pledge on indiegogo. You would just for forfeiting you money if they didn't deliver, with no recourse. Super glad i didn't pre-order.

It's like a ponzi scheme. Maybe they are trying to get enough money out of the poor folks who fund the indiegogo to actually be able to refund all of the pre-orders when they can't actually produce a phone. ;)
[Saygus V²] shaxs:
Yeah I am afraid you are right. I never pre-order anything so thankfully I am not affected. I feel bad for those who preordered.
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
I pre-ordered, now I'm just waiting to see when these phones will eventually appear.

I'ts been a roller-coaster ride so far!
[Saygus V²] strikelight:
Started my cancellation process on the 30th.. Was told it will take 10 to 15 days. Still waiting for it to be posted back to my credit card.
[Saygus V²] signupstuffid:
Something seems strange, about the indiegogo campaign.

It is at nearly $900,000 of the $1,000,000 goal in 7 hours.

A huge majority of the 1000+ backers are anonymous, and have chosen to pay $599, or exactly $1 under the earlybird price.

The actual amount of people that have claimed a phone in this campaign is less than 20.

Are they just putting in the people's money that already preordered under anonymous donations, and keeping the amount below the $600 early bird price?

Also a change in manufacturers is not a trivial change. In the event that they are making good on all the original preorders, I wish them good luck on making this phone a reality.:fingers-crossed:
[Saygus V²] pah2602:
I just hope we don't get an inferior product to the one that gets tested and shipped in the fall
[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
I'm not sure if most people have seen this or if it had already been posted.

Saygus Twitter:

"Our LOYAL Pre-Register customers get the phones currently being finished! Indiegogo buyers will be LATER. Hope you love the add on features!"
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Just wait 6 monts (once they are finally delivered) and pick one up on Swappa for $300+/- $5:laugh:
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
I read that and I don't believe it with out a confirmed shipping date.

''Later or soon'' don't work with me any more.
[Saygus V²] vertigo_2_20:
Does he say at 2:20 they've been designing software for smartphones and smartphones for more than a decade?

I got mine about 2 weeks after requesting it. I wouldn't be surprised if their closing/deleting of your tickets was due to ineptitude rather than malevolence.

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Yeah, I'm done trying to buy used phones online. I just had 2 attempted purchases of an M8 fall through, one on Swappa and one on Amazon. Add that to a bad experience years ago with an S3, and I give up.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
IndieGoGo backers? Are they real?

Are there any IndieGoGo backers out there? Just curious if there are any real backers out there... :eek:
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Yes there are.. they are all from Utah :laugh:
[Saygus V²] hdtechk:
As anyone actually read there email from saygus? Dual sim cards lollipop not kit Kat we will be notified of your shipment soon. Just curious no comments about anything that sounds good.
[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
Dual sims are alright...Lollipop should be a given considering M...but the usb type C is very cool. UHSII would have been good too, but can't have it all.
[Saygus V²] vertigo_2_20:
Probably because most people are in a believe it when we see it mentality at this point.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Do major design changes when phones are supposed to be in production sound good? So the phones taken off the production line all of a sudden have:

USB-C

Dual sim

Lollipop

Why didn't they just say that before? I'm trying not to be prescriptive in how to think about this because that's really none of my business, but so far I haven't seen anything that makes me personally want to reinvest in Saygus. But of course, I'm still watching.
[Saygus V²] Jkteam:
me too,

if we don't have issues good, if we do, we will see right away and will still be on the warranty
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
it is kinda obvious that saygus had some of the money prior to the start of the campaign. so why did they select to run that money into the campaign?. by doing so it will just cost them whatever fees will be assigned.
[Saygus V²] sonhy:
But wait! there's more! if you pre-order again in the next 15 minutes, we will give you everything you've seen and another unique limited edition pre-order number! absolutely free!

how's that forks :D - yep you heard right, a 2nd pre-order NUMBER, FREE! when you make another small pre-order payment - RIGHT NOW! FREE, EXTRA STUFF FREE !

*#^termsandconditionsapply.actualproductmayvaryfromimagesusedinthisadvert.
[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
Hehehe, yeh it is a bit like chasing a unicorn. I'm sure they want to keep adding stuff to it.

However those changes were hinted at a while ago through tweets, so they aren't major changes while in production (unless you were counting the May 22nd date). There has been speculation of dual sim and lollipop for at least a month (longer if you are a #SaygusV2 on IRC regular). People had mentioned USB-C and quite frankly that one surprised me. I thought it more wishful thinking than a reality.
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
Never mind. Brain fart.