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[Saygus V²] dkryder:
but still no review phones. no info on fcc certification. of course i would think if they are confirming addresses then the phone passed, seems to be no reason to do it if the phone failed. building used to have altius [mcat prep] sign (google earth 2015) if in fact that has been changed.
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
when is now the next date for lies?
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
Useless but I remember them giving us some shipping prices way back even if they had no phone.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
correct. i think it was for pretty much everywhere but the u.s.a, that was on the price list? so you got a point.

could be just a repeat of that.
[Saygus V²] Makavelli-:
Wow, I am really wondering, i have received the Email for the address confirmation, but the procedure is quite tricky in my opinion.

It would be easier to proceed it on their website with login and not with sending a lot of eamails that have to be read also.

But no matter, as long as I get my phone until christmas (this year).

By the way a interesting information (or writing error):

If you have a look at the comparsion sheet where the link is in the confirmation email.

At the bottom they have listet Bluetooth 4.1 (will be 4.2)!!

That is a different specfication than on the website and if you know, the snapdragon 801 only have V4.0, so is there an extra chip for it or is it a write error?

Maybe it is the "Killer Feature"....:good:

Cheers
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
I can confirm to have received the same email. You'd think they'd extract our shipping information from their payment processors? Though it is a broad generalization that peoples' billing/shipping addresses are often the same. The way they have it set up so far, it is a very low tech solution for cataloging information if the best they can do is Ctrl+F. If we still run with the story that Saygus is still a start-up then this approach makes sense when you're trying to cut costs by not licensing database software, all while trying to setup either a HADOOP or Spark server in the meantime.

EDIT: I liked the later rows in the Smartphone comparison criteria: "Fits comfortably in male and female hands". Why yes, I do look for phones where they can fit in my masculine, but effeminate hands!

I attached the 2 files in context below for cross-reference.
[Saygus V²] ValtheBatman:
I really hope you guys will finally get your phone. I personally couldn't handle the excuses from a year ago and cancelled it before they started a kick starter or whatever fund me crap. I really hope that it is a legit phone and everyone in here will get to enjoy all the awesome specs. Saygus better be able to pull their crap together and provide more information and support once the phones are delivered.
[Saygus V²] soskinner:
So a couple of days after address confirmation I get a FedEx shipping notification coming from China. I haven't ordered anything on-line that's not already here so wondering if this is it??
[Saygus V²] mklpickle:
Around what order number are you?
[Saygus V²] soskinner:
Dont recall offhand. Original round back last Jan??

---------- Post added at 01:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:24 PM ----------

Order placed Feb 5
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
What place in China?
[Saygus V²] soskinner:
Chongqing,

CN
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Doesn't look like Saygus - they should ship from Beijing or Jiangsu http://www.zhntd.com/english/intro.html. Chongqing is Quanta place, they are HP laptops manufacturer.
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
Did anyone expect of soskinner a trackingnumber?
[Saygus V²] Makavelli-:
Nope, nothing here
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
The phone has no FCC certification so there couldn't be nor shipping, nor tracking number because it doesn't shipped yet.
[Saygus V²] post_break:
Someone needs to ask them on twitter about those squiggle headphones lol.
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
They're sending the free battery and screen protector :o
[Saygus V²] mklpickle:
Says who?
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
I think its just a wish.

had anyone any new informations? from may we arrived and of oct. now we are in December. Just the address confirmation mails. What they say, nothing expect new hope to the customer who pre ordered. that they didnt leave and take their money back.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
my guess is as they have done in the past they are doing things that they hope will slow the cancellations. like if i was thinking of cancelling and read of the shipping confirm emails i would probably not cancel. to be honest these little movements did fool me in the past. it was because i actually believed them when they said things. it took me til mid june to question what was going on and when the feelings of being scammed hit me they grew fast til i did cancel late june. but i remember many of you from the beginning and actually respect those who have held in there with the order in a way i wish i could have held but i could not afford it at all so i took the money returned and got the oneplus two, but now i'm thinking i was suckered by oneplus, i have many issues but at very least i got a new phone which i needed.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
As this was posted on Nov 4, has there been any further communication with regards to your "review device"?
[Saygus V²] ValtheBatman:
Not sure if anyone knows this about Saygus, but for anyone that's still waiting for the phone, please be wary and understand that similar issue has happened before with Saygus Vphone that never came out. There is no info that I could personally find yet about what happened to the phone and all the people that purchased it, however, there is this video at CES 2010 it seems:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QR32dMVxVE

Here is what I found about the Vphone from their website history

It was this on Nov 4 of 2012: http://web.archive.org/web/20121103010559/http://saygus.com/

Still coming soon

Then in December, they got the new Vphone LTE coming soon of 2012 that eventually in 2015 turned into the V^2

Just by browsing that history, I'd say this phone isn't coming out :(
[Saygus V²] alexanseris:
First of all, I do apologize to intervene here. But your post is pretty interesting and I need to comment over your point.

From the beginning, Mr. Andreas Erhard told us many stories about Saygus and brought lots of news. I can honestly say that all of these stories were unfortunately false.

If someone would tell me "Saygus was lying, so it wass not his mistake".

NO dear.. It was his fault 100%. Because, He kept promoting for Saygus stories and when he knew those were lies, he never apologized or blamed Saygus anytime!.

On one of his latest posts, he justified the "the faked late October shipping story" by Saying that Saygus is a small start up company and these issues are common in that situation.

Why didn't he go back to Mr. Chad Sayers and told him "why did you gave me faked info?".

Why didn't he asked Alicia De Lion "Where is my review unit that you promised to send?"

He never did that, and in every time he kept telling more and more false stories.

I never seen him for once criticizing Saygus.

In summation, with all due respect to him, Mr.Andreas credibility is ZERO to me, and I can not explain his repeated and similar reaction concerning Saygus over and over again.

Thank you and I hope I'm respectful in my opinion.
[Saygus V²] limpopo:
I was a pre-order customer from early February, but cancelled in mid-March after it became clear Saygus would miss their original 6-8 week delivery target (i.e. end of March). My issue was not the delay, but the fact that at the time of pre-order it must have already been abundantly clear to Saygus that they could not possibly achieve their target.

So I can safely say I have been a massive sceptic of Saygus from very early.

My opinion of Andreas is simply that he has been enthusiastic about the potential of this phone (or this potential phone!), and has done his best to pass on information given to him by Saygus. Never for one moment have I felt that he has misled anyone, or claimed that he had any actual first-hand knowledge of the situation at Saygus.

I don't know how anyone could have derived any reassurance from anything he said, because it was always clear the ultimate source of his information was no more reliable than Saygus itself.
[Saygus V²] Huey:
You are respectful in your wording but your intent appears otherwise.

This is not the first time you have raised this as your view. Hopefully as you have stated again that you have no faith in Andreas, you will now be mute on that point, unless of course your view changes to the contrary. Andreas has had more contact with the company than the community in the main has had, and he has simply told us what happened, and when, and what we might expect, given his personal opinion. If he had said nothing, you would perhaps have called him selfish for not sharing?

All that will happen with intermediaries such as Andreas trying to do the right thing and remain impartial in the face of such constant personal criticism from repetitive comments such as yours is that they will flip the bird and do no more. And that will not be of benefit to the community. And that will have been down to you.

I hope I said STFU sufficiently respectfully for you.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Agree with you.

I was trusting him in the beginning, but not anymore.

By putting forth all Saygus news, claiming to have a direct contact with Saygus CEO, and never anatomizing or explaining previous tens of Saygus lies and false information, he simply had put himself as one of Saygus family. And, I will deal with him as one of Saygus team.

It is so clear how loyal he is to Saygus and refused any negativity toward them, even if that talk was true.

I read one of the tweet to him when someone told him that he is hurting his reputation by keep promoting those false news.

Yes, that was right. Andreas had a good and reliable website. I thanked him that time, BUT when your website keep broadcasting false news over and over again, No one would trust you anymore.

He had to take this into his consideration.

He had to review his spurious resources and give vindicatory explanations after any untruthful story; Otherwise he is just doing like Saygus team!.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Yes, I'm still having contact to Saygus, but unfortunately there hasn't been anything substantial regarding the review units and the final devices since then. If there was something new, you would have been able to read that on Twitter and/or my website.

Thanks for your warm words, Huey!

When all this Saygus stuff started in early 2015, I couldn't imagine how difficult and depressing it would be, when you are getting personally attacked and harshly criticized because of your efforts. However during the last months I started to have a more distanced view on all the criticism and responses like yours and limpopo's encourage me to keep it going. I'm always doing my best to correctly name the source of information and mark personal opinions respectively.

Please note:

Use all the information provided in this post with care and at your own risk.

Even though I've checked the content before publishing it, there can be major mistakes.

I'm not responsible for any damage you or your kittens may suffer from reading it.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
So Saygus conned you again? How dare they! :mad:
[Saygus V²] leytens:
I was interested by this phone in June.... But waiting and waiting and see nothing (no product, no video, ...) very serious, I neglect Saygus and by a OPT.... But I continue to look if maybe, perhaps, that dream can comes true..... But I'm also 99% sure that this will never happen and people will loose their money.... Good luck for the pre-ordered buyers....
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
I saw the first pictures (renderings) and information in egandget.de 13.11.2014. From this time I was interested in this phone. And if they had hold their words and bring the phone latest on may. It would be the awesome phone. Now its just a normal phone with here some extras but on other side not so good like cheaper phones. Then after CES in Las Vegas the phones should be come out next few weeks. The first delay, the next date was may 22nd. Then another delay. Next they start with indieogogo because they need suddenly money.....

their rollout plan:

August - September 2015 - Assembly and QA Testing

Fall 2015 - Shipment

then they talked about October, then end of October, now we have f...... December. Wow how they fake the people. Why the people dont open their eyes and didnt see it. they lie and lie.
[Saygus V²] kalypso44:
Sorry for my English, I go through the Google translation!

I am French.

Having been a former customer since February, I asked my refund and I got it in 10 days. I think this awesome phone will never leave the specs: shame! Either way it is now too late! Even with cursor up, the share in 801 is now obsolete. It would make another phone, and probably our money allowed the R & D for the next, which may be presented at CES 2016.

Now I think Saygus is more credible because of its miserable communication, and it will be very hard to convince the former customer?

Produce a phone is not easy, and I do not even speak of the bone. If they need one year to produce a phone, the OS will take how long? If bug of the OS will also require one year !!!

Saygus is a pathetic business

Finally, I ordered a Motorola Moto X style
[Saygus V²] 008freak:
If their price point were around $400 or less I would still consider the v2 since there is a less featured oneplus x with 801 chip for only $250. Granted they would actually have to produce the phone. At $650 or even the $550 preorder at this point is too much even with the extra features (half which I won't use)
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
PLZ

I'm still following this thread even though I've gotten my refund because I'm still interested in what happens with this phone. I'm just going to throw out some general observations.

This thread always seems to take a dark turn whenever a Saygus update turns out to be certified BS (which has been just about every single one so far.) So let's get one thing clear. Saygus is the culprit for all the misinformation, not Andreas (or anyone else who is just trying to share useful information to those holding out hope). Andreas has always been perfectly clear that his sources may not be accurate. Those disclaimers are there for a reason. Also, attacking those who are still holding on accomplishes nothing and only causes them to be less willing to share useful information, such as email updates from Saygus. So please, if you have to take out your frustration by venting online, take it out on Saygus, not the members who are just trying to do the best with the information they have.

Of course, I still believe that Saygus is full of the aforementioned BS and can't be trusted at all at this point. I would be shocked if anyone received a real, working V" by Christmas. At this point, even if they did release their phone, I wouldn't ever consider buying it just because the company is either just incompetent or both incompetent and malicious. And it's also outdated for its price range. But hey, that's just my opinion! It's fine if you disagree. I'm not going to attack you when I don't know the situation myself. And a small part of me still wants Saygus to prove me wrong by succeeding, in spite of their gross incompetence up to this point.
[Saygus V²] leytens:
Ok for your analysis... But regarding the "dark turn", I would like to say that NEVER we receive any positive, relevant and tangible informations from Saygus. And this is the point... How in 2015 can you let your customers without any informations about what they buy in advance... I'm a geek of 44 years old and I'm following different projects since more than 20 years now... I never see a so bad communication... And those relevant traces let me think that Saygus will never deliver any phone (as described on pre order)... And this also let me to conclude that the customer service if/when the phone will be delivered will be a disaster... So my advice, take your money back (if still possible) and run away...
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
I could see that being a viable option at maybe $329. But I'm just curious from those who have stuck with their initial full pre-order, what is your plan if the phone is delivered in 2016 and it has 6 dead screen pixels? Or there's a camera glitch? Or perhaps one of the speakers is crackling? Or the SD slot fails? We already know Saygus is entirely unreachable by phone or any sort of direct contact....is the plan to just send them an email or use their 24/7 online chat? Considering how long this process has undergone already, I have to imagine this device will not be void of issues. I'm just curious on buyer's plans for product hardware/software support?
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
I think, everyone gives up and the hopes are done. No news nothing changed. Still same.....
[Saygus V²] enzo ferraro:
Unregrettable & Long Gone

I sent them $549 very early after the original announcement, and gave up hope three or four months later. I asked, and received, a refund a few months after the whole fiasco began.

This was as dismal a business arrangement as I can recall ever entering.

I consoled myself by purchasing (and returning, then repurchasing) an LG G4, and this has turned out to be a remarkably capable instrument with a removable battery, SD card, and a 16-meg camera which allows me to convince myself that I now carry around a pocket-sized DSLR (I know, I know).

As for price, I paid more for the LG, but they threw in an extra battery and charger, and Best Buy gave me a $100 gift card, and all that made the deal very palatable.

Saygus, for myself, has now rapidly gotten smaller and smaller in my rearview mirror.

Enzo Ferraro
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
Yes of course you find a lot of Phones in the same price level like Saygus. And the specs are not worse then Saygus v2.

I had only one think what make me angry in the mobile phone world. Because apple design a thinner phone, every competitor want the same and make the phones thiner but the volume bigger. also they have 5,5 inch displays or bigger. But i didnt want a phone bigger than the Samsung S4. It fits perfect in my bag. The Bezel was thin and in my opinion they can do a bit thicker phones but more battery power. If I take a small phone, then you have a lot of bad specs in the phone. The bezel of the LG G2 was a bit better than the S4 and I didnt take this phone because of the not expandable storage. But normaly it has everyhing what i want. A big screen, very good battery life. good camera and so on.

So i wait a long time for LG G3.... unfortunately it grows up..... the G4 too.

Saygus build a phones with good specs, not awesome anymore in a small size but with i hope enough power of battery (3.000mha) similar to the LG G2.

But the problem is the politic of the company. I think this year the saygus wont be on the market. CES Las Vegas thier they will be show again some prototypes.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Still no FCC certification, still no produced phones. We are approaching new big Saygus lie - shipping Fall 2015. Just 12 days to another huge fiasco.
[Saygus V²] leytens:
I think 12 months of lies = thief now...
[Saygus V²] Makavelli-:
I think also, but my last hope is post from a guy on the Google commutiy who talked with "the bot" and he say: the certifications are done and the shipping will be prepared... But i don't think so. I am really pissed off from saygus. Sorry

Gesendet von meinem HTC One mit Tapatalk
[Saygus V²] hella356:
I suspect the only thing that will save Saygus at this point is if, in the near future, they begin shipping phones with a surprise upgrade to SD820, 4GB RAM, 128GB storage, or similar. The current specs have become seriously out of date.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
It is simply untrue - once the certification is done it MUST be available to everyone. This is the purpose of certification - consumers should be able to check whether the device is certified for safe use or not. So it couldn't be invisible, secret, classified etc. This is total BS.
[Saygus V²] mklpickle:
I think I'm officially done. Getting a refund, sticking with my LG g4, and using money towards Surface Pro 4 or Surfacebook.......Bye Felicia!
[Saygus V²] svtcontour:
I am so pissed at them. At least be realistic about the information. I go and buy 2 cases back in May because of the May, 22nd shipping date. That's goes by fast. Then one lie after another. If you told us we will ship in November or December 2015 then I would have been fine. But just more lies. No updates on their website, FB, or twitter for weeks at a time. I will give until 12/19/15 and I'm requesting a refund. Then of course it will come out about 2 weeks after that. But this is utter BS, they either have a phone or they don't.
[Saygus V²] ProdigiousJordo:
I asked for my refund on November 9th, November 13th they replied asking 2 simple questions, my order # and Zipcode.

I wrote back and 3 days later they replied with:

"Hello,

Thank you for providing this information.

We will begin processing your refund request, this can take up to 9 days for it to be processed. We will also remove you from our customer list so you don’t receive future customer emails. If you would still like to receive emails about Saygus and the V SQUARED – please reply back with which email you would like us to add to that list.

Thank you for considering the Saygus V SQUARED. You can also follow our Twitter (@Saygus). With the most up to date information we have for our amazing customers, fans and the public.

Sincerely,

Saygus Service Team

Thank you for choosing Saygus!"

I wrote to them 3 times since and no reply, no refund and I got that email a week after (roughly) about Saygus shipping info.

Do yourself a favor and message them asap, they continuously lie, even about refunding, but at least you'll be in the next step.
[Saygus V²] leytens:
Keep us informed about refund process... If everyone is asking refund, how Saygus can continue to live... If they don't already spend all the money... ??
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
I think this is the problem. They make a new singn to the headquarter. Would be better to produce the phone and inform your customers. That cant be truth what they do how they act.

People spend money for dreams and maybe they will lost their money.
[Saygus V²] dakipmyster:
Long time lurker of the thread here and long time skeptic of saygus. Being from the Salt Lake area the company has interested me and have thought of a local company trying to make big waves in the tech industry for phones. Been very disappointed with their BS and glad I've told myself to wait for the phone to be available before placing an order. Now I just don't want to.

But to the point of my post in relation to the new 'sign'. I'm curious if anyone has perhaps taken a close look at the photo for any photoshop evidence. For as sketchy as saygus as been with their PR and customer service, it honestly would not surprise me if those pics have been photo shopped.
[Saygus V²] ValtheBatman:
Since you are from salt lake, can you drive to their damn buildings and ask them wtf they are doing and demand to show the latest version of the phone? Record the experience as a vlog as well. :)
[Saygus V²] dakipmyster:
lol I should. I've never bothered to google an address for them but they are located in South Jordan just off the freeway. I live/work more the north side of Salt Lake so I don't go down that way very often. I should at least drive by and confirm if that sign even exists. That way everybody knows you at least invested into their company so they could get a sign.
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Gosh. If only there were someone on here who could have sounded this alarm, I don't know, 7 months ago.....:rolleyes:

Please do. Record the interaction on your phone and then upload to YouTube so we can all see. Ask to see a V2. Ask to see Chad...or their 24/7 chat guy. Show them the XDA thread, we want to see their face when they read it.
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
If you do that, i think we should make a indeogogo programm for him. and spend everyone here 5 bugs. so u would have a lot of money for couple of hours and your petrol is paid then ;)