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[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
I think the video Andreas saw was the one from the factory showing Lollipop; not the pro video that shows off all the features. Perhaps Andreas could clarify?
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
I think we'd all be happy with any video over another broken promise.

Really starting to question their morals, I was always brought up to keep my word. It doesn't bode well for the rest of the business, warranty for instance? How will that be in the end? Lots more broken promises?

Saygus for your own sakes stop being such #&£! :)
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
At this point any video of the phone would help...
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
It is getting late even for videos. This thing is going down if there is no shipping (not talking about "shipping date") next week or two. There are already proven brands with 4GB RAM out there. And nobody knows Saygus yet. Their price must be around 350-400$ by August if they want to sell no name phone with average specs.
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
First video: Showing side fingerprint scanner set up and use, Android 5.1, web surfing and back camera shot!

[YOUTUBE]zgTlY0ks58w[/YOUTUBE]
[Saygus V²] minatour44:
rock on - video finally :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgTlY0ks58w&feature=youtu.be
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
FM Radio: cool

FM Tx: ...a built-in transmitter too?

Also, the customized LP it's running seems to mimic something seen in other Chinese phones: No App Drawer. Instead, all apps are just added to pages on the homescreen.
[Saygus V²] phixeus:
Well, it is a pretty crappy/shaky/noisy video for having taken them all week to edit. Also it is kinda ironic that they are recording the video with an iPhone, which you can see for your self, at 26 seconds into it. Other than that, it was ok. But really , for a whole week of editing, I expect basically a commercial, not a blog post quality video that looks like it was made by my 8-year old.

But time for more, faster, and stop ****ing around. Oh, and start acting like a bunch of professionals and release a schedule. The whole "were not going to release a date we can't make" is so childish. It just highlights an inability to properly estimate and schedule activities, which is something that this group of "experts" should be experts at. And missing a ship date for the second time by almost 25 days is hilariously amateurish.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
that also caught my eye... That would be an awesome feature.
[Saygus V²] saantiago:
Just curious about something I thought about yesterday. The only verification we have that this will pass/run on CDMA networks is because its using an 801. By that standard, what makes the compatibility any different than the OnePlus One? Did the OPO not want to run it by Verizon? Can anyone provide insight?
[Saygus V²] rammjet:
It is not the final edited video. This one was shot in the factory as a quick way to show that the phone does work. The polished video is still being done and it is being shot in the US. Here is a picture of the video team with Chad that was located and posted by Zachary Griffee on Facebook. He has been doing some sleuthing.

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=961ccbfb116e2efcb593deea932a5ab2&oe=562A4AEC

There is a big show in Los Angeles June 16 and 17 and Saygus will be there - picture posted by Ryan Walters on Facebook

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=26467b0dd4ba2218b3a2df3fb913c4f0&oe=55F6CF98
[Saygus V²] Vapour_909:
Looks like they are using a snapdragon app for the camera. I hope you can swipe the fingerprint scanner without having to go from the tip of the finger to the base all of the time. It'd be nice to swipe from the right side of the thumb to the left side.
[Saygus V²] phixeus:
That is great info you have provided. I would be pleased if they were still doing something more professional for later release. I would also be pleased if they just put that one vid out for rapid release. Unfortunately, it is so hard to to tell what's what since the communication is so spurious and cryptic. But thanks for the clarification.
[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
Yeh that video was done well over a week ago if not more. It was pretty much the manufacturer showing Saygus where they were at.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
The video I've seen earlier this week, is the video they have published via Twitter today.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
anybody checked with samuel rhodes over at saygus.com in case he has any important data to offer? have not heard him mentioned in a while.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
are we expecting something else or that was it? so it took them a few day's to mask out the wifi names in the video? I'm confused and was expecting a professional video as I beleive I understood from them.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
That's definitely not the marketing/promotion video. For their campaign they are doing a more professional one, but I'm not sure, when this will be finally released.

See this post:
[Saygus V²] slowpok22:
Who is going to be in LA to hold the actual phone? Wish they came to the DC area
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
this is what they posted june 3rd... that is why I was expecting more. (I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in that expectation)
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
I'm in San Diego, but unless I could actually take delivery of my phone its not really worth fighting L.A. traffic. Plus, I don't want to hold one of those engineering models. I'll ask on twitter if its the production model.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
A very bad and unprofessional video. I expected to see a commercial demo like the ones from other companies. It only looks like a leaked video of a device that would be released in 5 months but filmed by a kid. They took ten days to only hide the WiFi names. I also don't like this swipe fingerprint scanning. I already disabled it in my Note 4. The camera app and the phone itself is the old one. The front-facing camera seems not working.

I just don't know how people are still defending them and saying this is not the official video and wait (million time again) for the official awesome magnificent one, again without any clear evidence?

Could you tell me when would I get my official phone?

After all these months, we are still waiting for the official video and only got this crappy filming done by their world-leading marketing partner!

Totally incompetent.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
You should read the last couple pages of posts before you post. Just sayin'.
[Saygus V²] sonhy:
yeah 2 handed fingerprint scanning, very crapy... but it was known from day one so not a big issue mate, its just a shame they weren't smart enough to research the hold & scan fingerprint technology that everyone is using now.

Maybe they got so many refund requests, that they had to cancel orders and change manufacturers so that they dont end up with 1000s of handsets.

Saygus wont sell many phones at all (Im betting on it) If only 1 or 2 reviews of the v2 come put a little negative, then people will also realize that the phone itself is not worth the $550 price, saygus will end up bankrupt and having to sell at cost or under cost prices.

I suggest you get a refund and then wait for the discounted sale - you seem to strung on, thats all :p
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
I imagine that it was a decision based on cost since adding such a thing would require something physical in a location that may be less practical. On the other hand, making the power button touch-enabled would be an interesting concept.
[Saygus V²] sonhy:
touch-enabled power button? I assume you mean turning on the screen by capacitive touch?

is that to save on wearing out the standard push button?
[Saygus V²] hdtechk:
If you have pre-order don't worry about it it's unlocked CDMA and GSM the only requirement to make it operate on Verizon is to have a sim card that is already activated "that means take sim card out of current phone put it in v² turn it on" Verizon verification is only for Verizon to decide if there selling the phone. Example Nexus 6 never got Verizon verification for six months after it was available and there is threads in nexus 6 forums that tell you how to get sim card if yours don't fit.

Sent from non-Verizon phone on Verizon network
[Saygus V²] MikeyMike01:
I think he means a fingerprint reader/button combo (like the iPhone 5s/6 or Galaxy S6 home buttons) as a power button on the side.

That way one could press the button to unlock, have their fingerprint read, and be on their way in one simple step.
[Saygus V²] hdtechk:
If you read all the comments for that post it says filming begins give us some time for editing but it gives no date or time for finished video to be posted
[Saygus V²] sonhy:
Oh I saw "would be an interesting concept" ... so didnt think he meant that since the concept has been out for awhile... but fair enough.
[Saygus V²] minatour44:
progress

i'm guessing the unedited video was released since they promised to release a video by the end of the week and they wern't yet ready to release the final video. They needed to release something of risk more cancellations. I think they know they must get it right this time. they wont get another chance. The final video needs to be awesome....

Im finding the progress painfull :( but its also been a ride since when was the last time one got this excited over a phone :)

we'll still waiting for this surprise (the 50 dollar one?) i wonder when they will tell us? maybe at the e3 vip lounge?
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Does anybody paid attention that the V2 logo on the video doesn't match V' logo on Twitter photos? :( Another mistake or regular scam?
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
The one in that video is not final version.
[Saygus V²] xxDimxx:
What I see in this video is that the phone has the old logo...
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
So why to post photos with final version and videos with non-final version? Any reason?
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
What I know is...that video is not official and demo video will be coming soon
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Video is perfectly official - posted both on official twitter and youtube accounts.
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
Acording Alicia De Leon on facebook (in comments), it's not the final version !
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Thats exactly what I wrote.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
How can they have production if they don't have a final version? That's my question.
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
But if it's on Facebook it has to be true.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Nice joke - like it very much! :good: :laugh:
[Saygus V²] NexVision:
Same way they planned to release without ever having a phone.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
good point. Let's rely their business on faith.
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
Alicia is member of Saygus staff, then yes it's true !
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
So from now no more SayGoose or SayBuz - only SayTruth!
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
I always liked SayBS
[Saygus V²] BtotheT:
Just thought I'd stop in and tell you whiners to stfu, video looked responsive, screen looked sharp. I'm content and waiting(I'm guessing mid-end of July on production and to have the phone early Aug)

We should just have everyone write letters with their doubts sent to a PO box, I'll have a bonfire in August.
[Saygus V²] alexanseris:
Last Friday I called Saygus and Mindy took my call. I asked her to talk with Alicia DE Lion. She told me that ''NO ONE IN SAYGUS CALLED ALICIA''. Everyone can try and call them. I immediately realized that Alicia is one of Saygus crazy fans who wanted to keep this fu**** faith among us. Because I tried to contact her or asking her direct questions on Facebook group , but she chose to ignore.

In fact, I just want to know why some members justify this incompetence? . Saygus previously announced that they are going to film a demo video and release it on their official channels. So they released this crappy video by the end via their OFFICAIL Twitter and YouTube.

How the hell you are sure that this is not the official video?

Do you just wanna feel better?

It was so funny when one of the blind defenders said that this video was shot by a worker and it is not professional, so this is not the professional official video. Honey, do you think that Saygus is professional ?

''That is their optimum ability. That is their maximum output''

What did they previously do to tell you they are a professional team?

Making a superphone on paper with great specs is a professional maneuver, isn't it?

Another speculation related to filming V2 with the old logo. Dears, they only have these 3 engineering samples, and they took one, added camera compartment and fingerprint scanner, then film a video for it. That is it!

The new V2 was a plastic dummy manufactured for $5.

I'm sure some of you would feel so angry because of my words. I'm sorry to wake you up from your sweet dreams.

But here you go,

Keep the faith .. Don't give up.. Keep the faith.. Love the legend Saygus

If V2 turns to be another Vaporware, keep the faith and don't ask for refund. Saygus need your support and faith. You might finally get your phone in the next couple of years.

I will cancel my order tomorrow and get out of this BS. But I will wait and see how this farce turn out!
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
I'm pretty sure at least 5 members are from this Saygus team, who spread this ''Keep the faith'' propaganda just to keep us attached.
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
As said by Andreas on facebook : "So what's your explanation for this one?"
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
I doubt this. I think they have only one engineering sample, that we saw on video that was shoot using iPhone.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
let's stir the pot then....
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Saygus is a private company. How do they have shareholders?

Is she working for Saygus rightnow?

This adds more doubts to me than confirmations.
[Saygus V²] alexanseris:
Call them tomorrow and ask about Alicia, it is easy, isn't it?

---------- Post added at 06:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:30 PM ----------

Search their tweets. They announced they have three engineering samples
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
They announced many things. Shipping on May 22, for example.
[Saygus V²] vertigo_2_20:
To stir the pot regarding Alicia De Leon a bit more, she's following OPO (a competitor) and tweeted in November about an incident at a Costco in L.A. On top of that, the first two digits of her cell number (all that were left visible on the uploaded business card) do not match up with an Utah area codes, but area code 310 is in L.A. It's possible she's from there and works for them remotely, or has moved to Utah and kept her L.A. number, but all this combined with her supposedly being the VP for shareholder relations for a company without shareholders just seems fishy.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
There are shareholders - we are. But without right to vote and without chance for dividends.
[Saygus V²] phixeus:
Wow, VP? Before I just thought that she was some random and over-reaching employee. That was how I explained her overall lack of professionalism in some of her posts on Facebook. Maybe VP means something different at Saygus than at other companies but from all of her Facebook posts, she sounds like a gushing 13 year old girl, not like a VP at company that does international business.
[Saygus V²] saantiago:
That's not how it works. People have IPOs (initial public offerings) to raise equity. Companies don't have to offer dividends, and voting rights is usually determined on how much of that equity you own (usually at least 10%), or what class your shares are considered/preferred stock.

If they were considering ANY of this they'd have information registered witb the SEC.

Though Saygus may be confused themselves and Alice is the VP of stakeholder relations aka any investors who have given them money.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Why don't you try calling their office and getting Samuel Rhodes on the phone? Let us know how it went. He should know about manufacturing process much more than stakeholder which doesn't need to work in Utah. If SAMUEL doesn't respond then you have a proof.
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
I'm guessing C = Cell = her personal cell number that she kept with her when she moved from LA. O = Office, F = Fax, E = Email, so those would all be Utah/Saygus numbers.
[Saygus V²] vertigo_2_20:
That's exactly what they are, and as I said, it's certainly possible she just has an L.A. number, but based on the fact she was in L.A. in November based on her Twitter, and it would appear not just visiting but that she likely actually lives there, it just seems strange. Again, she could work for them remotely, but it's just one of multiple things that lead to suspicion over her actual identity and relationship with Saygus. And unfortunately, we don't know what the other numbers and email on her card are, since they're blurred out. I'm just having doubts that she's who she says she is, but obviously I could be wrong.
[Saygus V²] bob90210:
It is entirely possible, and is quite common, to have shareholders for a private company. Any company that has an IPO will almost certainly have private shareholders prior to the IPO. And Saygus does have private shareholders; there is an SEC filing for it.
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
What's your point? My current $125 MediaTek is both responsive and the screen is sharp.

August now? Only an additional 3 months from the we're excited phones almost ready BS which they obviously weren't.

Not being negative just realistic and these factless posts don't help the company image at all add we are not your average consumers. Saygus you are underestimating the intelligence of your target Market significantly I am sorry to say.

BTW I am waiting too but not for much longer, a new round of updates from many manufacturersare due soon
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Lmao @ BtotheT

Really tough guy? LOLZ....... Silly consumer zombies.....some of you are happy that this device will finally come out in August?????? Really? After the massive lying, disrespectful replies and blatantly misleading their clients. Hmmmm..... 6 months late? Ah okay no problem...awesome right????

talk about brainwashing. I bet some of you have women that abuse you as well and are puss wiped bahahaha!
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Camon CB, they're on the move now:good:

Gonna have a highfalutin party at a gamers conference:silly:
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
:) rofl ikr

Yo T.... You know I was down. But damn homie.... I mean wth.... it's like some people love being b!tch slapped and then ask for seconds.

In August the snapdrg801 will be nearly three years old...... 3d screen???? Update that silly chipset instead.

Honesty goes a long way.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Look at the way Alicia replying the customers in the Facebook group ... Very immature and impolite
[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
You hypocrite.

A witch hunt on a person is what I expect to see on reddit. Not a respected forum like XDA. Regardless of whether this is a *DISCUSSION* thread or not, doxxing should be banned, as well as anyone encouraging it. Trying to contact a person working for a company AT HER WORKPLACE who has EXPRESSLY commented that she is doing it off her own back and not as a company spokesperson is not cool.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
I could not find any doxxing here.

What are you talking about ?

we are discussing the new subject matter of Alicia De Lion, the so-called vice president of shareholders. Like someone is talking about Tim Cook or Bill Gates. What is wrong with that?. I really did not like her posts on Facebook, and I clearly understand that you are so sympathetic with her, since you gave likes for all her posts. However, I still miss the tenor of your blindly defending this incompetence.
[Saygus V²] alexanseris:
Hey you Saygus blind defenders and trolls team. .

You are not more than six or seven people, and used to spread your ugly disrespectful junky comments in different places.

Just behave well and respect all other opinions. I fed up of your childish behavior. I truly respect this great forum and its moderator Tony, but I don't wanna say bad words that you deserve at all.

Just accept all other opinions, and I want to remind you that we are not staying in your home to ask us every time to leave.

It is getting so ridiculous with these kids.
[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
Yes and thanks you two clowns we will not be receiving any more information from her.

So thanks guys. Well done as usual.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
What beneficial information did you get from her? , she did not offer only high-heels words with out any sense. Chad Sayers himself won't give you any information if you even call him. Just be more reasonable sir.
[Saygus V²] Vapour_909:
I think the entire feature set of the phone is worth more than one single feature or another. The phone as a whole has everything that I'm looking for, easily. Regardless of it being late there has been no other phone announced that has every single thing I want.
[Saygus V²] vertigo_2_20:
Your name is very fitting for this thread :P But seriously, I do agree, and I'm still watching to see how this turns out, hopeful the phone does eventually arrive. Since I just bought an M8, it's unlikely I'll buy the V2 even if it does come out, and I'll just see what happens this fall. I really wanted it, and still would want it if it's all it's cracked up to be once it releases, but I just couldn't wait any longer, and now that I've bought a phone, I just won't be in the market for another one anytime soon. Maybe they'll get me for the V3, but I somewhat doubt that, too, since I have a feeling I'm going to want to upgrade from the M8 sometime before then. Oh well. At this point, I've given up hoping to get one and now just hope they drive other manufacturers to provide more for less.
[Saygus V²] Vapour_909:
It's hard to stand the wait given my current phone sucks so badly (samsung galaxy nexus), but I've been able to hold out so far. I don't blame you for taking something that's readily available. I think the juice is going to be worth the squeeze, I just really hope they give a shipping date soon. I want to count it down, and the smaller the number the better.

"Provide more for less" - I totally agree
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
If the Microsoft VP for shareholders started posting on Facebook off his own back, childish and silly, and was a terrible moderator what do you think the shareholders of M$ would do? The CEO? Her boss? Uncle Bill himself?

That she is doing this just goes to show her immaturity and the overall lack of professionalism of the Saygus management team. It would not surprise me if she was family in some way.

Does she also run the Twitter account by the way? As it is ridiculous too.

Where is this internationally respected marketing team? We need then to avert the ongoing public relations disaster.

Saygus PM me if you'd like some tips. Seriously. First tip - don't use a gushing teenage type to interface with a group of techies (everyone who bought the phone early). Second tip, learn and understand your market. The phone strategy is good though, you'll make a name get lots of online interest and great reviews, more than you could possibly purchase with cash so please start trading us like educated intelligent customers.

Thankyou. And Thankyou for releasing something on Friday, at least you have more kept your word on that.
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
I dunno. The SD801 and SD800 keeps existing in persisting numbers.
[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
There is no particular point I disagree with you.

However the context of my statement was about trying to call someone out by ringing their workplace and TRYING to cause controversy where there was none.

This has happened several times....by the same people.
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sayg...e-of-the-UI-for-V2-still-no-ship-date_id70417
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
Yes sorry I should have made sure it read less like an attack on your post.

It just brought up some very good points I wanted to make. The FB group is such a joke I don't even look at it anymore, the Twitter account is almost as bad just bs lots of exclamation points and happy happy, like we're to stupid to see the facts. Big surprise next week!!! = phones not f@&#/&# shipping again. Hey BTW we R da BE$T fone c0mpany in da W0rld!!!

Since Saygus isn't paying attention to what this fool is doing then maybe it is for the best that they find out?