[Windows 8 General] cutterjohn:
It is. And it's main purpose for me was to dip my toe into the water so-to-speak, and it worked, unfortunately.

Now it leaves me wanting something with a teeny tiny bit(at least) performance possibly with a stylus... so that's why looking around at all the crazy prices and low specs I decided to take a throw of the dice on a T300 chi. I SPECIFICALLY ordered from M$ as I've got a 30d return window, which SHOULD(if all goes well) allow me to see some real user benchmarks, videos, etc. of the atom x7(z8700). This of course goes to the next problem I'm REALLY feeling that for Atom, yeah 4GB is a good enough amount of RAM for the models that SUPPORT 4GB(some of the current z37XXs and the z8500 & z8700, but according to specs they DO support up to 16GB, so I'm expecting to see those 8GB minimum as that should be the current min. RAM for ANY CPU that can support that much RAM, followed by 4GB(again if max supported) and last by 2GB which is REALLY marginal with iGPUs.

For example, IIRC the various info utils that I've used listed the HD graphics having 1GB RAM available to them on the x80h! That's HALF the physical RAM, and worse I suspect that it's pre-allocated rather than a max value that it can "grow" to if available.

So I'm happy with the x80h for what it is, and that it was enough better than I expected to make me want to "move on up" a bit, which unfortunately is quite expensive for whatever reason. That said my 2nd choice for what is available NOW was the T200/4GB but $400?! WTF?! Is it gold plated or something?(No it's not.) which leads me to sucking it up. Cube i7 very nearly $670 w/a 5y10 and not very good keyboard dock -> $30 for a T300 chi in that case seems to be a bargain. OTOH I also have a local ucenter that has the Acer Aspire Switch 12 also with 1920x1080/4GB/128GB(m.2 TYPE 2280 SSD replaceable) for $600 so there is that as a more reasonable fallback(ucenter has a good return policy as well, I built my i7-3930k desktop purely from parts available there(all the ones that I wanted) at LESS than I could buy for online + shipping and that's EVEN WITH SALES TAX! but it's a long haul from(other side of city, c. 40m and no good really direct route, so more like 60 some miles)), and as I mentioned before Amazon has a seller with supposedly new-old Surface Pro 2s 8GB/256GB for $650 or something so there are those too, but the drawback on those are I've read reports of the warranties already having been activated and the fact that if I didn't like it I'd be stuck selling it for a loss likely, myself just to get rid of it especially with a potential Surface Pro 4 broadwell looming and a flood of Surface Pro 3s coming on market.

So just to say it again, the x80h did much more than I expected and much more fluidly generally, but it still was just not quite enough for what I was looking for. Close, but not enough. I suspect a z3775 or the z3795 T200 that I HAD been looking at would have sufficed for a while, but core m calls and for return possibilities, I may as well just at least give them a shot. That said I'm am NOT AT ALL sold on 12" tablet size. I've mentioned having 10" tablets before and not really being sold on them, and I expect more of the same, so we'll see. If that's the case then I'll be totally screwed until z8500 and more realistically priced z8700 machines come out with realistic resources and pricepoints.

I would like to thank Apple and their fanbois for making it popular to try to sell glass baubles like they were waterford crystal or something... :laugh: