yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Other SmartWatches] taleboblen:
TWLab OS

I havent tried this, just saw the news and sharing it. I think this is only for Android and extends the functionality of the watch.
[Other SmartWatches] grizado:
Sounds promissing but sadly is more chinese stuff...

I'm personally more excited with the OSSW Project. The only problem to me it that it currently only supports android and my everyday device is an iPhone.

IMO the all ideia of the OSSW is very well thinked as it will be possible to expand the funcionality with the use of separate extensions, more likely as the pebble universe...

Lets wait for coming developments
[Other SmartWatches] taleboblen:
Update from Krzysiek

Krzysiek wrote 3 days ago

Hi, I didn't manage to do much in this week (work, life etc ;) ), my priorities are:

- create documentation about writing watchsets/extensions

- add notifications

I've updated the app because I needed some small change for Tasker plugin: https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.althink.android.ossw.plugins.tasker

sample usage is here: https://github.com/ossw/ossw-firmware-s120/releases/download/0.1.0/tasker.json
[Other SmartWatches] valeriosza:
taleboblen, I helped this week, little, but the dollar in my country is very expensive.
[Other SmartWatches] taleboblen:
Open firmware roadmap

short update from the creators page
[Other SmartWatches] bagheera18:
Me too...

Hi tommo, did you ever figure this out? Got the exact same thing here...:(
[Other SmartWatches] GastonP:
New GoClever Chronos Eco firmware version released today...

Now in 3.20.
[Other SmartWatches] Harlley Sathler:
Is there any change log?
[Other SmartWatches] GastonP:
Not that I could find. Just did my usual daily "upgrade firmware" check and got it upgraded.

Looked for some changelog on the web but nothing came up.

I notice that at least a couple major annoyances of 3.19 seem to be gone (for the moment, at least). When the watch lost contact (it happened not too often but happened anyway) the vibration got "stuck" and I had to resort to resetting the watch through the Android app, which took some time to come up, so I lost quite a bit of battery charge. When that did not happen, and always after a disconnect when the vibration was longer than usual, often some of the notifications were extremely long (the vibration could be stopped by the "back" button, but that also added to the increased discharge,

The FW does report version as 3.18, though.
[Other SmartWatches] Harlley Sathler:
Mine come with 3.19 and after 20 minutes of use I downgraded to 3.18. Thinking if it worth the upgrade now.
[Other SmartWatches] GastonP:
For the moment, 3.20 is behaving way better than 3.19.

I'll report again tomorrow after a complete day and night of use. I use sleep mode so the test will be complete (but short). 3.19 had the annoying custom of sometimes losing signal and the long vibration was really a killer. Also some times it got out of sleep mode and reported only the first hours of sleep.
[Other SmartWatches] Harlley Sathler:
Oh, thanks!
[Other SmartWatches] mpn105:
I think that the goclever have the problem with fix the disability in 3.19 and the 3.20 firmware is the 3.18. They can't downgrade firmware and do bypass with 3.20. In info hardware after upgrade i have firmware version 3.18. That is solution for problem with 3.19 - user friendly upgrade - downgrade.

I think right ?
[Other SmartWatches] Relogeiro:
Yes, you're right. 3.20 is good, stable and old 3.18 ;)

Wysłane z mojego HTC Desire 820 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Other SmartWatches] GastonP:
I'm not sure if 3.20 is 3.18, as I never had 3.18. But it is more stable than 3.19.

Few disconnects a day, only one scary stuck vibration (that could have to do with the silly "phone home" need in the Android App), and of course more battery juice to live with.

Pedometer is more reasonable than with 3.19, and sleep monitor (aside from sporadic vibration due to disconnects) seems to work well too.
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
anyone with experience with the weloop 1.29.3702b + 3.18 firmware care to compare the two?? I'm debating on switching to chronos
[Other SmartWatches] killer23d:
I was able to use the 3.18 bin file to cross flash the Weloop to GoClever firmware. However even the phone says there is an update for 3.20, no matter if I do it through OTA or from the app, it will still boot to 3.18 if I look into About Watch.
[Other SmartWatches] mpn105:
I wrote about that. The 3.20 is user friendly downgrade from problematic 3.19 to stable 3.18. Goclever i think don't have any other idea what to do.
[Other SmartWatches] GastonP:
If they (both Weloop and GoClever) think in letting the watches die, it could be a nice move to put what they did into the public domain. They will sell their HW anyway, or they could even sell more of it.
[Other SmartWatches] GastonP:
Since two days ago I cannot login into the EcoClever Android app. This helped me discover that the piece of crap refuses to run without authenticating with his "home". So if I'm without coverage I can't alter alarms, change dials (or load them if somehow they get lost), etc.

I think I'm going back to Weloop. Alarm only for one day of the week, false disconnects every hour or so, no sleep analysis... but at least I was never left out of my own watch.
[Other SmartWatches] Pehehetri:
So, apparently, i was able to flash the weloop 3.18 firmware using the goclever android app. And, for all the people that have problems flashing because of frequent disconnections, i set the timeout of the display to 10 min and, while flashing, i kept tapping the screen and it worked.
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
It looks like the open source project is moving a long great. There was an update yesterday for beta notification support... I wish I wasn't traveling or I'd give it a whirl
[Other SmartWatches] taleboblen:
The Weloop 2

https://hi.taobao.com/market/hi/detail2014.php?spm=0.0.0.0.CJQBte&id=32946&qq-pf-to=pcqq.discussion
[Other SmartWatches] lucioantoniolo:
Why they don't release the firmware source code or release the dammit 3.0 version?
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
i'm with you 100% - there is no way i'm upgrading with this company. I love the product the the firmware updates have been miserable and the whole Chinese only updates aren't great either....
[Other SmartWatches] GastonP:
Does anyone know what about the current watchfaces of the Open Source project? Does it have any?
[Other SmartWatches] grizado:
Open Source Project isnt a possibility for me "yet" as all of my devices are iOS.

This device could be so much more with the release of multilanguage version of the latest app+firmware.

In the images of this new Weloop 2 the firmware and app are very similiar to the Tommy chinese version, son IMO the public release of source code is not going to be a reality :(

Just bought a Polar M400 GPS watch with (activity tracking, sleep tracking, GPS, alerts and phone notifications) and i'm very happy with it.
[Other SmartWatches] Kickedee:
Login problem Chronos Eco app

I have recently tried to install the Chronos Eco "rom" on my Weloop Tommy but everytime I open the GoClever Chronos Eco app I need to login and when I try to create an account or login with Facebook or Twitter I get no response, so I can't use the app. Does anyone know how to solve this problem or another way to install de Chronos Eco rom on my phone? PS: I have an Elephone P7000 with original Android Lollipop 5.0.
[Other SmartWatches] grizado:
When goclever chronos server is down. You cant use the app, so no update or watcheface downloads. Yesterday was fine but today is impossible to login
[Other SmartWatches] GastonP:
That's exactly why I unistalled Goclever Chronos and went back to Weloop. Not because of watchfaces or updates but alarm setup and sleep monitoring control. A smartwatch that doesn't work unless connected to the internet is of no use to me. That, besides the annoying "stuck notification" which draw most of my battery power.
[Other SmartWatches] smolny2:
Hi,

Any chance to make the smartwatch work with a phone running JellyBean (4.2.2)?

I know the specs says: Android 4.4 or higher, but I would like a real world answer.
[Other SmartWatches] althink:
Android 4.3 is a must because it was the first version with BLE support. I think that spec says 4.4 because in that version it was much easier to get notification content (in 4.3 it requires some hacks).
[Other SmartWatches] taleboblen:
Android Wear on IOS

Google just released Android wear on IOS..... time to move on then...

http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/31/9231701/moto-360-does-work-with-the-iphone
[Other SmartWatches] GastonP:
Actually I don't care much for big hardware overloaded with bloatware... If it's not one of this, then it'll be a Pebble or the equivalent. I love the memory LCD and the long battery duration. If I can get some specific pieces of software (sea tides display, weather forecast, moon phases) work with the Weloop, I'll be happy.
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
I've been using the open source project for about 5 hrs... It looks like if you could figure it out you could do some of those things. I'm not sure about battery life... But I sort of expect of to be equivalent or a little better (mostly cuz it seems to interact less with the app)
[Other SmartWatches] GastonP:
Great!

Excuse me for the stupid questions but... does it show date and time? Does it have several watchfaces? Watch alarm seems to be one of the features, as seems to be music player control.

Thanks!
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
No stupid questions - the project in general isn't perfectly documented just yet. So it does show military time and you can access a date page... But its more a setting. Also no watch faces but if I'm reading the documentation correctly, it does look like you can pretty much add what you want. The music app... I'm on the fence. It has some nice features that are better than the weloop/eco apps but the damn thing vibrates too much. I suspect that'll hurt the battery life. But overall I do think I like it better... Just not sure yet. I'll let you know how the alarm works tomorrow. It looks like it's tied into the default clock so I'm hopeful. I've also read there is a bug in the battery bar.

This firmware and app are clearly in the early stages but its amazing work and I personally think it's unbelievable that one guy is close to out doing a company on a project on his free time.
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
Okay so a bit of an update- the rom i'm using apparently uses a bit of a custom clock app... so i have to download a compatible one i just haven't remembered to do that yet (the official google one and there's another one documented somewhere - i'll try the other one). Otherwise, I'm totally for the over vibrating music app and how the OSSW handles notifications. You can actually dismiss them now on top of viewing the entire notification (which can be a bother with emails but... beggars amirite?). Other than that, I also am quite fond of the default watchface and don't really miss having a bunch (you can even invert the displace color).

As for cons - I'm not a fan of the default app... it has a tendency to have an issue reconnecting if you disconnect bluetooth. Getting used to the new button layout is ... a bit of a learning curve (i find myself accidentally turning on music if i'm looking through notifications). I also really miss the step counter... which was the original reason i got the weloop. Lastly, it doesn't look like the battery life will be the same (probably due to all the viberating). But, again, for how early it is and how well it works... I can't complain and I will not be reverting to weloop/eco any time soon.
[Other SmartWatches] GastonP:
Thanks for the update, qkall, it's really appreciated.

I think the icing to the cake for a basic watch is to use the accelerometer for turning the screen illumination on. Step counter and sleep analysis can come later.

I'm feeling very tempted. Very :)
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
I actually forgot to mention that - to illuminate you hold the back button... I think i really like this versus the accelerometer alternative. it's convenient and should save from accidental lighting up... like during a movie ;)
[Other SmartWatches] GastonP:
I have installed the firmware however for the love of me I can't find how to install / enable the music player extension / plugin. I have tried uploading the .json file but the app complains about the plugin not being installed. Do you have any hints to share?

Thanks in advance
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
so the music app is sort of two apps it's teh .json for the actual watchface control and then a plugin for your phones ossw app. I'm at work so i can't give direct links (i ain't logging in to my personal email account... i'm paranoid). but you should be able to find everything from:

http://ossw.github.io/

or

https://groups.google.com/group/ossw-beta

the google group is actually pretty active and the dev replies very quickly.
[Other SmartWatches] SifJar:
Just installed OSSW about half an hour ago, looks like it's already an excellent alternative. Right now lacking in watchfaces, but it looks very easy to write your own in JSON, reasonably well documented here: http://ossw.github.io/instructions/create-a-watchset/index.html

Even with just what's implemented now, it should be possible to create some fairly functional watchfaces. With Tasker support already present (although I haven't been able to get it working properly yet...), it should be possible to do some very interesting things I reckon.
[Other SmartWatches] perama:
I can't see the watchfaces to the GoClever Chronos Eco app any more. Why? Anyone with the same problem?

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[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
i'm pretty sure the goclever phones home - so maybe their server is down.
[Other SmartWatches] fuzzywuzzy1991:
CHRONOS ECO doenst work with IOS 9( Ill try weloop tommy firmware today.
[Other SmartWatches] berendjan:
Tommy 2 ??!!

I found out there is a Weloop tommy 2 comming this month (in china)

a preview was made by xiaomitoday.com and it looks like a nice watch.

What i found in the (google translated) info page was this:

* There is an 500 (+/- $78) and a 400(+/- $63) yuan version (the 500 gets an exra strap and a collecotrs coin ??!! i think)

* Better step counter

* New Look

* Bigger Battery (now 4 weeks (100 msg a day)

* Thiner (19g, 10mm think)

* New charger (on the back using a magnetic lock)

* Changeble watch bands (20mm)

* The watch menu is only in chinese :(

* it uses the same (terrible) apps on the android and iOS phones as the 1st one.

Is there someone still interested in the Weloop watch (system) it's a nice watch to hack and toy around with IMHO.
[Other SmartWatches] Kidplay:
This is the weloop 2:

http://m.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_241274.html

Inviato dal mio GT-I9505 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
2 things... that doesn't look like the weloop pictures that they have on their site. Also, I'm in to quadcopters and on the forums I've been on, they have started to steer people away from gearbest - a lot of people have been ripped off by them recently.
[Other SmartWatches] accerca:
Osw dont work - how to install eco fw

Hello,

I have tryed to install PROJECT OPEN FIRMWARE, now the watch don't connect with any APP, neither Tommy, nor OSW.

I want to install ECO Firmware, someone can help me how do I can make this with nRF TOLLBOX?

Thanks!

How To install GoClever Chronos ECO firmware on Weloop tommy (android only)

Download latest ECO firmware to phone

Disconnect Watch from phone, install ECO app

Go to “Check For Upgrade”

Tap on the middle circle six times

“Select a firmware file___ [Browse]”

Watch must be in forced OTA

Update watch.

You can flash between weloop and Goclever firmware (always be careful and follow instructions when flashing, i take no responsibility for bricked or exploding watches...)

To install weloop firnware, follow same instructions but use weloop app instead.
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
you can't use/have installed both the ossw app and the weloop app.... they'll conflict with each other. but a tutorial is cool nevertheless.

edit - so a note on the OSSW... the battery dies when the watch indicator says ~25%... so keep an eye on that. Hopefully i didn't destroy the battery :/
[Other SmartWatches] althink:
You cannot break battery by using this firmware, it's just that it's not scaled properly, battery voltage drop is not linear and this indicator is linear, it was scaled according to my battery but looks like every battery is different.
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
yup - no issues... it's working fine. I just wanted to warn others that the battery reading is clearly not accurate.
[Other SmartWatches] GastonP:
What I have noticed is that I get shorter battery life. ~1.5 weeks, with the same usage as with the Weloop. From completely full to empty (blank screen). Perhaps the processor does not go to sleep between screen updates, or perhaps it is the high number of screen updates what affects the battery life.

I know for certain too that the shorter response time of the music player extension (compared with the Weloop) requires mor Bluetooth interaction and that could be shortening battery duration too.
[Other SmartWatches] althink:
There are multiple reasons:

1. It's not power optimised at all. I've not much time to add features so even less for optimisation. if someone has time then source code is waiting for fixes ;)

2. Default watchface shows seconds so screen is refreshed 60 times per minute vs once per minute in original firmware

3. BLE connection parameters may be different than in original firmware. Radio is set to quite intensive mode to have better bandwidth.
[Other SmartWatches] cotarelo:
Today I was in the swimming pool with it and after 30 minutes I saw that the screen is blank. When I got home I connected to the charger since I didn’t remember the last time I charged it and the phone powers up normally and even the status shows that is charging, everything works great. BUT as soon as I disconnect it the screen goes blank again very slowly (letters are dissappearing) and it turns off.

I’m not sure if this is a water issue but I dont think so, I was swimming in the swimming pool for 2 times before and in the sea and it was always good… I am not sure what to do now, maybe is just the end of the life, only 11 months of use. Do you think I can I fix it myself?

The hardware version is 2.01

The firmware is 3.18
[Other SmartWatches] cotarelo:
Are your watches still alive? Anybody can recommend how to do a battery change?
[Other SmartWatches] l.capriotti:
android 5.1.1, latest weloop app, no notifications for gmail, just incoming calls and "archived" when archiving a gmail message. Any hints?
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
do you have accessibility on for notifications? otherwise come move to the open source project :)
[Other SmartWatches] l.capriotti:
I do, still nothing.

Nm, I'll move to OSSW as soon as this issue is closed ;)
[Other SmartWatches] GastonP:
You can always do a long press of the "return" button and get the light on. Another long press will turn it off.

I thought it would be more cumbersome this way but after seeing the light turn on every time I had to park the car or do any menial task that involved a sharp wrist movement, I was convinced that I didn't need wrist-tied-light. Also, shaking my hand in the middle of the night ended up disturbing my wife's sleep. A no-no :D
[Other SmartWatches] BravoCharlie:
For those who have trouble syncing Activity on the Weloop iPhone app I found you need to swipe downwards on the Daily Activity page to initiate the sync.
[Other SmartWatches] gusomn:
Hi, do you know if it is possible to control spotify from ossw ?
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
I'm sure you can but you would probably have to make a watch face for it. Presumably it would be pretty easy to modify the musicplayer.json but I'm not 100%. [MENTION=6468923]althink[/MENTION]
[Other SmartWatches] althink:
Default musicplayer watchset will work. To be able to see current track name/album/artist you have to go to spotify settings and enable "Device Broadcast Status - Allow other apps on your device to see what you are listening to". Then everything will work fine (or at least works fine on my phone ;) )
[Other SmartWatches] rompa:
Hello.

Is there any chance to get goclever eco v3.20 bin file?
[Other SmartWatches] skid:
New android phone Lollipop 5.1.1 no longer syncs with watch - stops during watchface sync and activity. Is this a known issue?
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
i'm running 5.1.1 r24 without issue... oh that's right i'm on OSSW :p
[Other SmartWatches] ALTINBAŞAK:
Hi,

I tried ossw five mounths ago.I think, it was bad application.

Well, How is ossw now?

Notification, calling, message, music, fitness ???

Should I install ossw, again?
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
Only thing missing is fitness... And I believe he may be upgrading soon. But I'm sure he'll continue his work. I love it, especially the newest update
[Other SmartWatches] ALTINBAŞAK:
Well, Which is using mobile application, now? Special Application ? like weloop or goclever?
[Other SmartWatches] Ekaansh:
Watch won't charge or boot.

...
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
I'm not sure i understand but I use the ossw program
[Other SmartWatches] skid:
OSSW Problem

OK - so I've tried to move to OSSW but DFU keeps failing - once it did manage to get to 99% but then it said CRC error?

Now I can't get back to Weloop or Chronos as it is stuck at Updating 0% ... HELP! Tried other Android devices and also IOS but they won't connect now!
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
I didn't have any issues... Check out the Google groups. Its very active there. I do see a post about trying one of the beta ble apps

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/ossw-beta/tS4FCrGUTEI
[Other SmartWatches] skid:
Thanks - managed to get it loaded on an older android phone using the toolkit and installed OSSW. But app can't connect to phone!
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
Um here's a maybe stupid question... Do you have either the weloop or chronos app install too? They'll conflict.
[Other SmartWatches] skid:
Yes - tried it again after uninstalling both weloop and chronos but still could not connect. Given up for now and reverted back - did notice that Chronos appears to have a new firmware version 3.20 but couldn't get that to load either so back to Weloop 3.19 instead!
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
Post on the Google groups... I'm she they'll sort it out
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
https://github.com/ossw/ossw-firmware-s120/issues/9

closed five days ago... I have a feeling 0.5.0 is imminent. Also if you haven't already, there's a dude that created a 3 set watchface that is amazing. has date/time/day of the week on one, battery life and seconds on another, and 3 day weather on the last. If you hold one of the top or bottom button it then opens the music watchface... so really four in one.
[Other SmartWatches] GastonP:
Must have this one!!!
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/ossw-beta/-ZHFkHNHpSk
[Other SmartWatches] skid:
Ok - persevered and managed to get OSSW installed and working! Notifications all OK and installed some extensions and watchsets - loving that 3-watchset with weather etc! Although not sure if it has my city or not as I expected to enter the city code rather than name?

Looking forward to the next version of OSSW and any future developments ...
[Other SmartWatches] cotarelo:
Hi,

I posted a video of my failing Weloop... I think is a water damage since I was in a swimming pool when it stopped working. Anybody here has a different opinion or knows how to fix it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVDK5id_Kb0
[Other SmartWatches] GastonP:
It looks more like the battery is dead. As unsolvable as water damage :(