yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
I am not a big fan of Tor. Tried it and it slowed down my connection significantly. One click solutions for the time of need- I can have that. But all the time- quite sure that reducing my speed even more would be awful. Sniffing is different- I don't browse while doing that. If I lived somewhere else, where prices of the satellite data is almost human- I would consider trying Tails. Plus, bunch of apps and features don't work with this device as well.

About Kali- it doesn't work the same with all WIFI hardware. I got great results with Edimax card on my netbook. But generic drivers were garbage. Could 60 GHz protocol be used for boost? Is implemented card on the list? Same question applies for GPS/GLONASS.
[Saygus V²] BtotheT:
OOOOOoooo I'm telling, you said the H word (Ha)

I definitely plan on a little OS experimentation as well.

:) 3 weeks 2-3 days and it's ours MwahAhahaha :)

This just sprung up minutes ago(though it's little more than photos to music I wonder if some aren't new, ocean cloud ones) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFctixUBFFk
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I wasn't aware the h word was forbidden, my bad :).

TOR/Tails is definitely not for normal internet usage. There are special times and special applications for TOR especially in the security world. But, having a quick method of creating a 'torified' connection or gateway would be valuable to me.

I wouldn't expect compatibility with Kali for a bit. I'd not expect much to be compatible with V2 and it's unique hardware set right away. However, we can't be the only ones thinking about using this phone for that purpose, right? How would you think the 60ghz protocol could be used?
[Saygus V²] mbfdias:
60 GHz should be used for local network connection, instead of or as a supplement of 802.11 ac
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I'm not very knowledgeable of the 60ghz wirelessHD tech. I can use it to create a local network connection with it other than video streaming?
[Saygus V²] mbfdias:
Just do a search on 802.11ad
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Probably not useful for pen testing. I had no idea the the WiHD radio on the V2 could be used for data transmission. WIHD had never been the top reason for me to get the V2.

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Further reading, I don't think 802.11ad is the same as WirelessHD even though they operate on the same 60ghz signal./
[Saygus V²] mbfdias:
The capability will depend on the silicon, haven't seen any specs on that
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Thank you for the retort.In fact I expressed '+1' and Smileys in confirmation with the postings of [MENTION=3694895]porkandbeans[/MENTION] and [MENTION=6417622]Boom515[/MENTION].If they have any objection in it I will wholeheartedly withdraw them.I think internet has introduced these shortcuts in order to make communication easier.And in xda even many eminent and well known developers are using them.However if you are feeling any kind of irritation in having used them by me I beg your pardon.And I shall make it a point not to use them in my comments relating to your posts.

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[Saygus V²] possibilis:
In theory- we have two antennas working on quite different bands. I was just wandering... 60 GHz requires directional antenna. And needs to be precisely pointed to make effect without killing the battery. WiFi does better distance with weaker signals. Now, I have read a thing or two about those but haven't found any ideas about combining signals. Frequencies do alter one another ALOT. I know that because I own analogue synthesizer. Using Low Frequency Oscillator player can change the pitch and even strength of higher frequency. Newer synths do that with software. I mean... I haven't found anyone exploring that on mobiles so far. And this is one of first toys to have multiple band casting ability. Using proper harmonics on one, second signal caster could boost signal. In theory. This works for lower and higher source, but lower alters higher one more efficiently. Results should be interesting and I am eager to read more about this.
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
He's not talking about you thanking them, he's talking about you making a separate quote and reply for each and every post you agree with ("+1" or smilies). Doing it for every single post that you agree with is, well, very spammy. Instead, use the "Thanks" button located on each post. It expresses your approval and confirmation of that person's post without clogging up the forum with quoted replies and "+1"s.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Thanks for the clarification.In fact,together with expressing the shortcuts I also use press the THANKS button also.But in several cases I can not use the THANKS button as my limit of 8 nos is reached.So my use of shortcuts is a sort of alternative appreciation of their posts.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
But all it does is spam the thread.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
But spams more than these are already spread and being spread in this thread!
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Another interesting article from Reuters

Two names here that may have answers to questions some have.
[Saygus V²] scomat:
Just came across this. Might be of interest to some people. It's the first time I've seen a picture showing the dual sd on the phone.

http://www.coolsmartphone.com/2015/03/02/mwc-hands-on-with-the-saygus-v2/[CODE]
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Good comparison specs layout.

Here
[Saygus V²] bob90210:
It's not an article from Reuters; it's a reprint of a press release. Marketwired is a press release company so anything from them is a press release. Also, Springboard5 is Saygus' press company; anything from them is a press release.
[Saygus V²] mbfdias:
Some of the specs are different from the Saugus website, so guess it's not of any value
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
The following is reply from Saygus.

Samuel Rhodes

The V² features only one SIM slot. Although we received many requests to add a second SIM slot to the V², the development of the device is too far advanced and we can no longer make any major design modifications. We are considering to include a second SIM slot on future designs.

Notice of any future updates will be made public on our website.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
dual micro SD slots =/= Dual sim slots.

edit: technically it can hold 1tb in each slot. 200gb is just the current biggest card.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Sorry, I saw wrongly. :D It has TWO micro SD slots. Each slot can support 200GB. See the link below.

https://www.saygus.com/v2-2/
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Makes sense to me. Unfortunately is probably also a FCC violation. Not that I abide by rules or anything 8). But I'd definitely be interested in whether that theory would work with the specific phone. Heck, I'd be interested if data transmission is possible or h***able for this radio- I'd be surprised if it wasn't. Why would it be useful to me? I'm sure I could find one.

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*drools*
[Saygus V²] spd_rcr:
Subscribed to the thread. I put in a pre-order right after it was announced, cancelled when it was delayed, and re-ordered last week after they confirmed the shipping date. I'll continue to be skeptical until I have it in my hand and it works as described. I think at this point it's a short enough wait that getting a refund via visa/mastercard if it doesn't ship or doesn't work shouldn't be a problem and the specs and price still trump everything else on the market. The S6 dropped their sd-card support and waterproofing, while the new G4 is priced even higher and also lacks the waterproofing.

What I'm most interested to see here on XDA will be the adding of a Saygus V^2 forum and rom development for it. :good:

A little tidbit I picked up from their support recently. The V^2 is supposedly using The new Sony 230 Exmor RS™ IMX230 sensor. No word yet on the lenses/aperture.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Not until the phone released I'm thinking.

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This chart has bad data about saygus.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
I have already addressed this. Look back for my post

It's also from January. Most all device spec sites, offers the same. These specs come from the pre-released device showcased at different venues.

My post did say "Good" not Exact:good:
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
This made me chuckle just a bit :).

Each phone here has their good points in this chart, but factor in the chart's faults, Saygus blows these phones out of the water IMO. :)
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
16 days, 23 hours, 15 minutes left before May 22nd.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Yes, I am counting too. I don't know when we will receive shipping details.
[Saygus V²] spd_rcr:
... To be fair, the Saygus is the only one in that comparison that's safe to have anywhere near water. :laugh:

Seriously, wtf was Samsung thinking with the new S6 ?
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I kind of expected to see some accessories by this time. At least the WiHD dongle and back covers for sale.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I got a miracast dongle that really sucks. Im hoping that there will be a reasonably priced wihd dongle that also supports miracast. For the other devices I have that don't support wihd.

I been lusting after the oculus rift, thinking about buying it. On their site it shows off the samsung gear which is a VR that only uses the galaxy note 4. I was thinking that the V2 phone would be a perfect basis for VR tech. With note 4 you got to latch it on and hook it up with a cable. But with v2's wihd, just turn it on. With the 4k video capabilities, the 21 mp front camera, and the big storage, this thing is almost made for VR and augmented reality. Whats anyones thoughts on my imagination? Only thing i can think could make this not so possible is the screen size. (read through google cardboard, the screen of the v2 is sufficient in size)
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Sorry, someone may have posted it before.

Why do you choose Saygus V2?

For me, I like screen size 5", Removable Battery & mAh, MicroSD, RAM and Internal Storage, Cameras, Body & Material, Speakers.
[Saygus V²] Stijn Maller:
A high end device with screen size 5 and front speakers in as small a case as possible. All the other amazing specs are a bonus.

Awaiting the first positive reviews and deliveries before putting my order in though.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
I also remember...
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
The 5-inch screen was the first thing that caught my attention, then the internal storage size, the dual front speakers, and the big battery (with the alleged 50% battery savings chip). The dual micro SD cards aren't that important to me because after I got the Moto X (2013) I realized that most of the storage I had on SD cards was ROM's and nandroid backups, but they will be nice to have in case I fall off the flashaholic wagon. Getting the Moto X (2014), and using the Nexus 5, helped me realize that the perfect screen size for me is 5-inches. I think the dimensions of this phone will be perfect at 137mm x 67mm it sits right between the OG Moto X and the N5; which is the sweet spot for me. I'm not concerned about the thickness. Anything below 10mm is good, and it gives you a little side grippage to hang on to that phone. I'm super excited to get this phone. I ordered some bare Qi coils to play with, and I need to get a waterproof micro SD card. My son is a junior Olympic diver, and its cool to follow a diver underwater with a camera ( I did it with a Sony Xperia Z3 compact).

I hope Saygus gives us some relevant updates today. Yes, we are ready, and we know there's 17 days until shipping. I want to see dual boot work, the fingerprint scanner function, and to see it actually take a picture (underwater too).
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
For me it's the extra bar of signal, the cameras and speakers.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
:good:
[Saygus V²] waterplanet:
This is what I consider the main advantages of V2 compared to most other flagship phones:

1. Removable battery, and hopefully a better batterylife than other phones like S6 or M9.

2. Root capability (even if I don't know exacty what this means)

3. A clean Android version without bloatware and skins like touchwiz.

4. Possible to use as a gaming console with WiHD + a bluethoot controller.

5. Support for External SD-cards.

6. I think the size is ideal, not too big like many other phones.

7. Robustness, seems to be durable, solid, waterproof, not bendable and so on.

The only possible downside I see with V2 compared to other flagships is that it might be slower, given the older processor. But hopefully it will not be a big difference in real life performance.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Yes, forgot to mention in precious post. The first time to come in my mind is 5 inch screen. I am currently using Moto X 2013 (4.7") and I tried to hold my friends' 5.2" device and it is too big for my Asian hands.
[Saygus V²] funkbuqet:
Unfortunately, my understanding of WiHD is that the signal is very directional. As such it may be difficult to maintain a consistent connection if used with VR since you would be moving your head around.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
1. Removable battery AND SD. These are must.

2. Developer friendly options: alternative OSs bootability,

3. Good RAM (very important for android)

4. 5" size and front, good speakers.

5. Disputable signal enhancement on the back cover, bunch of sensors - these give a lot of practical usage options.

6. All the other trinkets are welcomed. WIHD, good camera, watter resistance, quality built, fingerprint sensor, NFC, hard glass screen...

These are my priorities.

Under 6- I can live without, but are most welcomed.

Under 1. I don't see the phone as a proper android without these. These are blackmailing tools for companies and should be left for iPhone users only: battery because of limited usage- which MAKES me pay expensive service, SD for limited data which MAKES me store my infos and preferences on horrible "cloud" or similar other peoples servers. This kind of "service" should be banned legally.

Under 3. and 4. - very important, and I would consider buying cheaper phones for these if only they weren't all MTK developer- closed structured.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
Really the biggest thing for me is the simple fact the base unit alone has 64 GB of ROM. At this point in time, that's ample storage for me by itself. Having the ability to add SD cards up to 200 GB in size is huge for the future. I'll probably just start out with another 64 GB microSD card and add from there as things fill up.

Rear camera with good resolution and ability is a must for me. Tired of taking crappy pictures with a subpar phone I have.

Front facing speakers is a plus. Tired of cupping my hand around the back of my current phone so I can hear what the audio is.

5" screen, the right size! Not too small, not a phablet.

WiHD will be pretty cool and I look forward to being able to do PP presentations right from my phone, no more laptop or USB Disk to a projector.

Does anyone know what the plug style will be on the WiHD dongle, (i.e., HDMI, CoAX-oragne, RCA-yellow component or RCA-BGY composite)?

Seriously thought Saygus would've provided an update by now? It's been crickets from them for a week now? No leaks, no info, nothing. The silence is painful!
[Saygus V²] MadBob:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/cell-phone-reviews/saygus-v2-hands-on/

Nothing new but you might as well read, as you gotta do something to pass the time :)
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
That is definitely an orange back in those pics. They need to sell various color backs. I also like the two-tone (checkered?) Ones.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
The positional tracker on the Oculus rift (development kit 2) is directional as well and must be placed in front of you. But you're right, after thinking about it-- the WIHD wouldn't give the V2 a big advantage among other phones. However there are other things that would give this phone a significant advantage.

[IMG="Positional Tracker"]https://dbvc4uanumi2d.cloudfront.net/cdn/4.4.14/wp-content/themes/oculus/img/product/two.jpg[/IMG]
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
While there's a lot of those generic one's on there. There are a lot more screen protectors on there now and the phone holsters are new.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Could create a new kickstarter and call it the WIHD Oculus Rift Belt Accessory. The buckle is a WIRELESSHD receiver that connects to the rift by hdmi cable. Course would need an oculus rift that supports android other than the note 4 (gear vr)
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
In no particular order:

Screen Size: 5" is the max that I can do one-handed usage.

MicroSD slots: Switch out media as desired. Two at that!

Removable Battery: Allows for extended battery.

Good CPU+RAM Combo: The "second gen" 801 with 3GB RAM is great. Newer Snapdragons seem to have major overheating and throttling issues.

Developer Options: Root and unlocked bootloader out of the box!

Boot from microSD: I'm not much of a ROM-a-holic, but being able to try other ROMs without having to flash over my main ROM would be great.

I do wish the phone had capacitive menu keys along the bottom though.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
HOT bootable

Waterproof/Durability

Fractal Antenna

GSM AND CDMA

Two SD slots

Battery Life

Average Screen Size

Camera Quality and Shutter Button

Removable battery is a must in a phone I choose, so any phone that does not have this capability is not even recognized by me.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
More than any 1 feature I like the combination but...

Battery life

Great Cameras (physical camera button is an excellent choice)

Durability
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
I expect it to be an HDMI connector for video (and power, if TV/screen supports it) and a micro USB plug for power via USB of the (smart-)TV or via standard USB charger.

Bad news first: The Twitter person will be away for some more weeks. Hopefully they will find a solution for this soon. The silence is very depressing and killing... :(

At least they are on schedule for May 22nd, as I've heard today. I'll will keep you posted, if there are any recent news. ;)

It's quite interesting to me, how different the use cases and priorities of the features are. Personally I don't think about a specific killer-feature, it's more the perfect 'feature-cocktail' that's fascinating me. But I have to admit... replaceable battery and microSD slots are a must-have for a smartphone. :D

Have you ever thought about expanding your V²'s screen via WiHD to an external screen? I'm thinking about doing a presentation and having a clock/timer and notes on the device's screen and the actual slides on the wall/TV. That would be awesome!
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
As I said before... I can't believe they have (had) only one person capable of posting twitter updates. Chad should be posting updates from China.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Saygus should hire or appoint someone for Twitter update. They should be teasing us now because Device is going to be released.

Need to update accessories on their website too so that we can order now and able to ship together with or the same week with V2.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Thanks for your positive suggestion!

I see your point, but Chad is way to busy to handle the Twitter thing himself. They should probably offer a part-time job to one of the community people or hire a social media professional.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
andreas, you should be the one updating twitter :D
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
There is no need to order the accessories extra. They will provide you the ability to add them to your existing pre-order. ;)

I'll get back to you, as soon as I've got some more details on this.

Yeah, maybe this will be a possible solution. I'm going to discuss this option with Saygus within the next days.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
I second that. Motion passed.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Yes, what i mean is to add-on in my existing order. Thank you for your hardwork and updates. 16 more days to go.

BTW, i like countdown in your site.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Interesting that you say Chad is to busy. He hasn't been to busy to make YT vids up until recent.

Chad could easily appoint someone to the task of PR.

Chad went to China... Why is there no published ... anything from there? Publicity photos, chatter on the interwebz etc.

They have a 24/7 support chat now, however most of their recent replies seem to be canned answers.

Chad is not way to busy to see another project fail, is he?
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
I think twitter is banned in China.
[Saygus V²] scomat:
I thought the idea of Twitter was just to put latest updates of people daily lives. You see movie stars and singers and sports people doing it all the time. Your not telling me that every single one of them has someone else tweeting for them. Chad could put in just a little update every 4 days as opposed to every day. So the way I see it there's no excuse.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
Yeah, it's total crap the PR representative is sick for 2 weeks now.... BS!

They're holding out on us for a reason; good, bad or In different. I find it hard to believe and write frankly am not thrilled by their poor PR quality. Total line of BS there feeding us! Chad can pull strings from anywhere around the globe..there's no reason they can't update a post. . Poor!

I say they don't have all their ducks in a row and they're scrambling to try and figure out last minute problems they're just not informing any one in the public about

Poor!
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
I just found in google.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
Those are so beautiful looking, please have those listed for sale soon saygus, I'll most definitely add those to my order.
[Saygus V²] tightos:
Saygus keeps saying tha accessories, etc. will be made available soon on their website.........

Like when? Two days before shipping?

Come on, they should allow us time to make proper decisions.....and not hurried ones, but then again......I would be expecting too much from them.

My guess is that Chad is in China......when he returns.....he'll put the accessories up on the website..........cause apparently he's the only person that works there........and there's no internet, orrrrr workers in China!

SMH!

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FYI

Conv with Saygus support rep.

Samuel Rhodes: Hello, Welcome back to Saygus 24x7 live chat support. How may i help you today?

Client: Hi, when are accessories going to be made available to us (WiHD etc.)?

Samuel Rhodes: Hello there

We are evaluating other options to include on our website; for example affordable WiHD receiver, high end earbuds, back case with a kickstand, Qi charger and more. To be one of the first to know join our newsletter, found on the bottom of our website.

Client: I've joined, but I have now received any NEWS thus far. I check the website daily

Samuel Rhodes: We are currently working around the clock with manufacturer’s to introduce our phone accessories to match our amazing phone. Please stay tuned on our website and social media pages for release dates and options.

Client: I don't want to sound mean, but those social media outlets are dead.....Saygus has NO social interaction with us.....Twitter hasn't been active for some days......and yes we know that the person responsible for PR is in the hospital

that's no comfort for us though.

We check the website and Twitter 3-4 times a day for update with no luck.

Samuel Rhodes: I'm very sorry but there is no update provided to us as well. We'll do our best to post more updates in the later part of this month.

Client: I understand.....and I apologize

What's the possibility of our feelings being relayed to Saygus via this chat?

Samuel Rhodes: I can create a ticket in our system and forward this chat the concerned team. Otherwise, you may also create a ticket using your own Saygus account.

Client: Do me the favor please

Samuel Rhodes: Sure, may I have your email address, please?

Client: roger@yahoo.com

thank you and have a good night!

Samuel Rhodes: Thanks too and good night!