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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cubfan99:
I'll pay $48 for this all day long. It's just about $15 more than I paid at Best Buy for the HDX and I had like $90 on an AT&T gift card left. What am I going to buy there for that?

Now I'm wondering if Best Buy will take back the HDX I bought and didn't like? If not, I see that Zagg has a refund policy, so I could go through them.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Argh, where's my Tracking Number?! Moshi doesn't have telephone customer service support. Hopefully they will grow, pretty young company. :D
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Can you post a couple pictures of it installed?

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That's way I drove over to the AT&T store and purchased one there for $48. plus tax. :(

Maybe I'll get a chance to install it tonight.

What did Otterbox do about returning the Alpha glass? Did they make you summit the whole picture deal?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cubfan99:
Mine is black and I can't do any better than the pictures already posted.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mitchellvii:
Here's my verdict

OK, just ran by the local ATT and had them slap one on for me. Verdict.

Crazy expensive.

Totally worth it.

Looks like a million bucks. Has super smooth feel of Zagg Glass. Screen oils wipe off effortlessly. Zero halo, edge to edge protection. If I own this for two years thats 7 cents a day for dramatically improved user experience.

I'm using this with the S View Samsung OEM case and cannot perceive an screen lift or gapping at the edges at all.

Conclusion. Unless you already spent your last $50 on your phone, buy this protector.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Nice, hopefully I'll get my installed tonight. You get white or black?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
The problem is Mophie will not honor the warranty if the product was not purchased on their website.

Otterbox did not make me submit the pictures, they were insisting me on sending another one, I declined, and stashed the trash in a mailing envelope with the tracking number.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mitchellvii:
White. Definitely looks premium.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cubfan99:
Those with OCD (like me), it's impossible to get this on perfectly with the same edge on both sides. You'll get very close or might get lucky. If you're off by a hair like me that can only be seen by feeling both sides at the same time or putting under a magnifying glass, go ahead and live with it. You won't get it any better by removing and reapplying, and you might make it worse.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Now, I'm worried :silly: Does it interfere with the display at all?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cubfan99:
Not at all. I'm just saying that since it goes edge-to-edge, it's really hard to get perfect (down to the micron) since it's so close to both sides. With the larger gap from glass to edge on the other glass protectors, you have more wiggle-room.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mitchellvii:
Absolutely love how easy this baby is to clean. Quick wipe on the pant leg and it's out of the box pristine. Screen actually looks better than the plain glass. I think I can honestly say this is the best screen protector I've ever owned.

Wish they's make one of these to cover the plastic screen on my S View case. That gets so funky fast.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cubfan99:
Hard to resist the urge to say "Told you so." ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Ever since the Lollipop update, I have more positive thoughts about my Note 4. Its been several months, the chrome edges have been intact, there are no visible scratches on the sides thanks to Otterbox. Speaker holes are intact. The charge port does seem to have the trace marks left by the charger. Perhaps wireless charging would have been a good idea.

I'm still stuck with the old iLoome. I'll be receiving The Crown in the next 3-5 days and will be posting a detailed review.

I'm optimistic The Crown will work with the Commuter Series Case
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
Anyone Seen This Looks Nice! http://www.casesinthebox.com/alumin...e-for-samsung-galaxy-note-4-black_p30084.html
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Looks enticing, but is not going to transform my Note 4 to an S6. Can't wait for the Note 5. :p
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] xdm9mm:
Note 6 will be better than Note 5 ...
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
Hows that Note 5 ain't even out.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Batfink33:
Note 6 will have an 8k screen.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
Well for the meantime I'll stick with my Note 4 and wait on Note 5 , long ways before Note 6 even shows up ☝

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] skillzo1:
looks the same. I heard you have to remove the stock back for the case to work, and it offers limited protection.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ST6R5DM...olid=NUAF56AU6Q6A&coliid=I3INFGUNQCTIMP&psc=1
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] seriosbrad:
So why do some Note 4's have this mythical "extreme curve" that is different from other Note 4's? It it just a rumor because nobody can fit their glass protector properly?

I have a "Logiix" tempered glass with very minimal Halo effect, but I'm interested in the Bodyguardz with Crown for that added protection.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kinsman-UK:
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Just to let people know, I ordered a Momax from shop.brando.com and the one I received has the capacitive buttons correct (recent apps and back button, rather than menu and back button) - although the product image on their site still seems to show them as incorrect. They must have fixed this in newer runs of the product. I haven't tried it out yet, as I currently have a Moshi iVisor on and it is perfect at the moment - don't want to remove it unless absolutely necessary! :silly:

http://shop.brando.com/Momax-Full-S...-for-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4_p12490c1547d8.html
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arvylas:
I'm really interested in this one. Can't you just try it to see if there's halo or if it's adhering right?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jwrubi:
pics of the momax pls. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
In due time dust will get under the screen by the home button.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kinsman-UK:
Is that the Moshi you're referring to? I have read that, and am monitoring it to see what happens :)

OK, attached are some photos of the Momax. If the protector is as good as the packaging it should be alright! As you can see the capacitive buttons are now correct. My understanding is that this has adhesive under the screen, and not just on the edges like the Moshi. I guess that might introduce the possibility of a slight halo, although my Note *seems* to be one of those with a slightly less curved screen, judging by how well my Moshi has been performing. Notice also that the Momax covers the 'Samsung' branding on the front of the phone.

As I'm sure you can understand, I'd rather not take the Moshi off just to try out the Momax. At the price of these things, and with the trouble so many others have gone through, I'd rather not risk it as the Moshi is great at present (I've only had it on for a week). Having said that, I *think* I may have noticed a couple of specks of dust under the Moshi this morning. Not sure how they got there as the edges are all still down firmly - it's possible they may have been there from the start as they are only visible in direct sunlight when the screen is off. If it does get worse, though, I may have to try the Momax sooner rather than later! For now, though, it's my 'spare' - sorry :o

My Momax took just under two weeks to arrive (sent from Hong Kong), and postage to the UK was just $3 (Or was it £3? Can't recall!).
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] borijess:
Any pics installed? Does this have adhesive on the screen?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kinsman-UK:
As I said, I haven't installed it yet, but here are some photos posted earlier by another member (before the buttons were corrected). As for the adhesive, I can't say with absolute certainty but I'm sure I read somewhere that it is full coverage (as the poster above also mentions). As you will see from the installation instructions I posted above, you have to apply pressure to the centre of the screen during installation to activate the adhesive - so that says to me that it is all over the protector. The Brando site says: "Full Frame not only provides full coverage for Smartphones, its adhesive side also sticks to phone screen automatically while preventing the formation of air bubbles or dust from entering".
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] borijess:
Any cheaper place to find the momax?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arvylas:
I missed that post completely and i was desperate finding an application of the Momax to see if there's halo or not.It seems pretty good. Thank you
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] CODENEX:
Does that clearly defines that both Momax and UAG works side to side with no issues? I seriously doubt whether this full guard Momax will pop up on some stress by the case.

Can you please post the thread where you find those photos.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kinsman-UK:
Ummm, sure, it's this one! :p

Here's the post:

http://xdaforums.com/note-4/accesso...or-waiting-t2995411/post58727230#post58727230

Yes, I think the UAG should be OK - I'm using one with the Moshi, which is the same thickness, and haven't had any problems yet (though I haven't tried taking the UAG off and on yet!).
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] borijess:
Anyone have a better price for the Momax?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] CODENEX:
Thanks, And you tried installing Momax with the case on, Right?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
The white one is available on eBay - http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=271716239441&alt=web
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kinsman-UK:
No, the Moshi, not the Momax - If you read back a few posts I explained why I haven't yet installed the Momax. However, they are the same 0.3mm thickness.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mitchellvii:
You know when I drop a Grant on a 5 inch piece of glass it better be damned good. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
My order is processing now, looking forward to this.

Do Not purchase the cheap $20 one from eBay (if you look closely, the graphics on the capacitance buttons are wrong), also you can forget about the warranty, because there is no warranty.

I'll go with Moshi all the way!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mty msi:
I'm wondering if this will work with my Seido Surface case (to be a Convert case if Seidio ever releases it). I got the Zagg HDX a month ago which I haven't gotten around to installing because of its 1mm thickness and everyone that posted about installing one said it had no halo. But I'm reading posts from users that state the S Pen leaves indentations and it's a chore to clean fingerprints off the HDX.

Seidio's Vitreo glass protector is .33 mm thick and according to them fits with the Surface & Convert cases but I don't know how much of the screen the Vitreo covers vs. the iVisor. I currently have an iCarez film protector on and it doesn't fit well with the Surface case. The case causes it to bubble on the edges but I think the iCarez is 5.08 mm (.2") thick. If anyone using a Seido Surface case buys one of these please post your results.

If this works I'd grudgingly part with the price.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Just took off my Zagg glass and installed the Moshi. :) This protector went on perfect and I'm very happy with the results. Here are a couple of pictures of the white Moshi on the Verizon Note 4.

(very hard to get good pics).
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JippleStar:
Is this the same as this? The pictures on the AT&T website look different *-* More specifically, the top portion seems to be different?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
No, the one in the link you provided is not for the Glass version. The Glass is $45+ tax
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Amazing, also says Limited Lifetime Warranty. Awesome!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
No, it's this one.

http://www.att.com/accessories/screen-protectors/moshi-ivisor-glass-screen-protector-samsung-galaxy-note-4.html#sku=sku7500489

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Just wonder if the sides could become loose over time and let junk get under the screen. :p

Guess time will tell.

This is the best one so far !
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Do you have to be an AT&T customer to buy AT&T accessories? :p
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Definitely, what are you planning to do with your other screen protectors from Zagg, Otterbox, and iLoome?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Nope, as long as you can pay they will sell you anything. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JippleStar:
What the heck *-* I still can't find that link on my own >_> mm $48 dollars though *-* Kind of got excited thinking it was only 25 lol
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
I'm going to try and get a refund from Otterbox for the Alpha.

Zagg is sending me 2 HDX so I'll just cut my losses with the Zagg Glass and dump the HDX's on eBay. The others are in the garbage. :p
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
No better way to get them out of the way :good:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ckspeed1968:
No, you do not need to be an ATT customer to buy from ATT.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Mayonesa:
Has anyone installed this with a otterbox defender?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ckspeed1968:
Does your iVisor have adhesive on the 2 side?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
I strongly doubt this is going to work with the Defender Series case because the glass is .3mm thick. Regular PET Screen Protector will do just fine, but any tempered glass is incompatible except the iLoome flexible tempered glass. If you're looking to install tempered glass without removing the inbuilt screen protector on the Defender Series case, the iLoome flexible tempered glass is for you.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Yes, it absolutely has adhesive on the two sides. I worry about the sides getting loose over time though. :p

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I'll give it a try tomorrow and report back here. The stock screen protector has been removed from my Defender. ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
The problem is closing the polycarbonate shell from the sides. Removing the inbuilt screen protector will not help.

However, if you do manage to fit the Moshi iVisor Glass with the Defender series somehow, I'll edit this post and thank you two times. :p

I know the Moshi iVisor is gong to be the best for long.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Mayonesa:
Well i got a glass screen protector i got off ebay with my defender on with no problems. It goes over the top with no problems. The sides are cut short so it doesn't go over that but i hate thr the halo this has so i have been waiting for something else
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] eksoccer99:
Going love my at&t 35% off accessories business discount, bahahaaaaa
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] AmorImpermissus:
Seems a little gimmicky

I'd like to know the metrics they're using top measure how, exactly, it's "stronger than tempered glass." What are the tensile strength, elasticity, & psi ratings? There are a few types of safety glass which are arguably "stronger" than tempered glass because they have a bit more flexibility. But they aren't any more difficult to scratch than a wine glass.

Here is my letter to the manufacturer:

Dear Moshi R&D,

You should inform your marketing dept. that *all* glass is harder than steel-- by an order of magnitude or more. That includes the glass which is already installed on practically every capacitive LCD made since 2007. That's not to say another layer of glass won't protect what's under it. However, saying your glass is stronger than tempered glass & "scratch-proof" because you can't scratch it with a knife is ridiculous. That would be like if I went to buy a car, and the salesman told me, "This car is *way* faster than other cars. It's essentially unbeatable on the racetrack. In fact, it's *so* fast, even a Schwinn 10-speed road bike can't beat it." My reaction is going to be, "Dude, you just described a Geo Metro. Adding custom rims didn't magically make it a racecar, kthx."​

The only way this screen protector is "scratch-proof" is if Moshi found a way to produce sheets of material harder than diamond on the cheap. Silica (glass, sand, quartz, etc.) is among the hardest substances on Earth. Only a few precious gemstones are harder. As such, I would encourage everyone to treat these claims with a grain of salt. However, I would NOT advise you to treat them with a grain of sand-- not even one. Why? Because that's all it'd take in your pocket with your shiney new bling protector to scratch it to hell on your morning jog.

I am not suggesting this is a bad product for its cost and features, but I *do* say that one of these "features" is a lie.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mitchellvii:
Amorim,

A gimmicky technology product? God forbid! Don't compare it to perfect, compare it to what else is actually available. I don't think you'll do better based upon my personal (and extensive) experience.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] EfrainTrejo:
OK if this doesn't fit on my defender I'm going to return my defender and get the commuter and then get the screen protector because it just looks sexy
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mitchellvii:
Word of warning regarding the Moshi 1 Year Replacement Guarantee. This applies ONLY TO PRODUCTS BOUGHT DIRECTLY FROM MOSHI.COM. In other words, you buy it at AT&T you're SOL. The rest of their warranty applies only to manufacturer defects. Scratch their unscratchable screen? Again, unless you bought direct from Moshi.com, you're SOL.

Still a good product, but don't expect the same guarantees you get from Zagg. Not happenin.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cubfan99:
Might be worth ordering from them and returning to AT&T... especially because it's $5 cheaper not counting tax and has free shipping.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JippleStar:
Has anyone tried using a Gear VR with this SP applied to their N4?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] dschachm:
Anyone using this with a diztronic slim case? the case wraps around the front of the screen and i'm afraid the screen protector will push out the case.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] smacsteve:
Why the color bezel?

I was intrigued about this when I came across this thread and I go to the site and find that they have colored the bezel? With little circles over the capacitive buttons and the Samsung logo? (actually I'd rather they left the black/white color over the sammy logo and just covered that up) Anyways, I'm a bit disappointed with their design.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] gregma:
If they didn't cover it, you'd see the halo effect. You could almost do the same thing with any glass protector and a sharpie... :D
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mitchellvii:
Really? I love it. Don't think I'd like the design you're suggesting at all.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] cjparker:
I just ordered one from Moshi.com. I have an HDX on my phone right now 'cause I got impatient waiting for glass. :)

I'm in no real rush as I like the HDX, but just so I'm prepared.... how would I pull the HDX and keep it safe, just in case the Moshi glass doesn't work out or something?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cubfan99:
Me, too. The Note 4 with a screen protector felt to me like driving a car with plastic over the leather seats. I hated it. This upgrades the whole experience to the premium level it is without a protector.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] cjparker:
Cubfan,.... hmmm.... there's another site I frequent with a Cubfan on it.... Scott G runs it. Any relation?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
New Moshi iVisor Glass development:

After looking close at the screen this morning I noticed that there are tiny bumps on the back side of the protector. Also I now see some dust specs under the screen that I don't believe were there last night. :silly:

I still worry about that thin adhesive on the side borders letting in junk. :p

Anyone else notice any new junk under their screens?

You can only see this under bright lights. Here are a couple of pictures.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] cjparker:
That looks like a grid I'm seeing.... not dust. Unless I'm not looking at what you're intending to show...
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ckspeed1968:
I do see some under the screen too. No time to air spray it out yet.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
I put the phone into my Otterbox commuter case and the touch sensitivity just went out the window. :(

I believe the adhesive is not worth crap on this protector. Back to the drawing board. :p

This protector is not all peaches & cream. :(

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I'm starting to see where you are coming from with this. ;)

Should have listened to Munkypoo7 :(
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
After trying a couple of other cases, I'm done with this protector. Any case that applies a little pressure to the edges of the protector renders the touch sensitivity pretty much useless. :crying:

I hope I can get a refund at AT&T? :p

Monkypoo7 was 100% correct about this protector (post #2 of this thread). Good luck everyone !
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mitchellvii:
I'm confused by these negative reviews.

I had this screen protector on all day using the S View Samsung Flip Case. Not a single spec of dust under the protector despite being in and out of my pocket multiple times. I also placed the phone in my Spigen case which goes over the edge. Again zero issues, touch works perfectly.

I think the problem may be not the screen protector but individual phones. It is known that certain N4's have VERY curved screens. If this is the case I can see you having issues. On my N4 the protector is perfection in case and out.

The adhesive on this protector is activated by soap and water. If for some reason you do get dust underneath, simple remove it, wash with soap and water, allow to air dry and reapply.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
I thought it was great also until I put the phone into a case. Glad yours is working fine, mine is going back to AT&T for a refund. :crying:

If I take the phone out of the case the touch sensitivity works fine. I believe any case that pushes down on the very edges of the protector will cause the glass area to rise and loose sensitivity.

The hunt continues...................
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mitchellvii:
That's too bad. Two factors at work here. The curve of your screen and how far the lip of your case impinges on the screen. The sad news I'm afraid is that if you have one of the screens with a more severe curve, you can pretty much write off glass screen protectors as even one which just covers the visible screen will still halo.

The Spigen Slim Armor Case provides excellent drop protection, a kickstand and does not cause the protector to lift as it does not impinge on the protector on any edge. It should also prevent dust as the fit while not impinging is razor close. This case was literally made for this protector. It is under $20 and comes in a variety of colors.

P.S., Good luck getting a refund. I don't know about AT&T but Sprint does NOT give refunds on screen protectors as they consider them "damaged" once used.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MAWQKIW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
I have the Verizon model and don't think I have a severe curve to my screen. I had the Zagg glass on it with only a tiny halo along the sides of the display. I'm ready to give up and get a Note 3. :p

Called the AT&T store and the manager said no problem giving me a refund.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Put the Moshi on the top of the existing HDX, and enclose the phone in a rugged case
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Did the case not help in preventing debris from entering?