[Saygus V²] :
OK... Nothing constructive is coming from Saygus at the moment.... And nothing much constructive has been posted here in days, mostly just bickering.

Thread closed for now. Massive cleaning incoming..... And maybe this will be reopened.

Darth

Forum Moderator

Edit: Alright, here's the deal. I am leaving this thread closed for a day. Let people cool off, and realize that bickering back and forth with each other will solve nothing. Also, I am not deleting anything as of now. I found no real disrespect in any posts really....just frustrated members venting on XDA and unfortunately, each other.

Now for the "TL: DR" part.....though I hope you do read it! ;)

I understand and empathize with everyone here. That is why nothing has been deleted. You looked forward to this new device, some even paid money up front as a pre-order, and so far things don't look good. The manufacturer hasn't delivered, and maybe never will. So, frustration is high. I get that. And I would be frustrated too.

But....now that frustration is being brought here, to this thread. Oversensitivity to comments is understandable when patience is thin.........but realize, Saygus are responsible, no one here on this site is. Let's end the bickering and turning on each other here and now. It won't make the phone suddenly appear, and it won't make refunds appear quicker either. Anytime a thread focuses on anything negative, like this situation, emotions run high for sure. So see it for what it is, and keep the focus on the device and it's manufacturer.

We are all entitled to our opinion....some will hold on to hope, some will simply move on and some will be upset. All those are fine. What isn't fine is turning this thread in to a boxing ring because you disagree with someone else. If you don't like what someone said....ignore it and keep walking. Or report it if you feel it broke any site rules.

As far as Moderators "throwing their weight around"...or trying to force their ideas on anyone.....I don't see that here. Moderators are members too, albeit, they represent the site....so need to uphold the sites rules and ideals always.....but Moderators have opinions too and also are free to participate on the site just like any other member. And I did not see any Moderator posting as a "Moderator" in the last few days....except me. Yes, this is a "business" post. Theirs were not. Theirs were opinions. Nothing more.

So, this will stay closed until tomorrow. And when it's reopened, we can all post constructively and no more personal battles. I would like to see a fresh start. And I will be deleting any senseless bickering posts without a thought like a Ninja in the shadows. Or off topic. Let's discuss the device, the current situation, and all respect the fact that everyone has an opinion, and most are frustrated.....so cut them some slack if they vent some. And, with the device probably not coming anytime soon....this thread can and will be closed permanently if it continues to be a battleground. I would prefer not to go that route....but constant cleaning can get any thread shut down.

See you tomorrow!! Let's relax a day and come back here refreshed and focused on the subject matter. :good:

Darth

Forum Moderator