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[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Be sure to check out their twitter... Once again, they're totally super-duper-pinky-promise-winking-face-emoji hoping to... have "news soon". Everybody hold your breath. Or don't, actually.
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
from Saygus :

"Passed the FCC! Filling out paperwork now. Some LTE bands still in process... its the 'crawl through mud to paradise' of startup reality!"
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
FCC's site doesn't show any new entry for Saygus, so either they submitted it under a different name, or they're just lying again. (most likely the later)
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
FCC listings

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm

I just checked and you're correct. If anyone else wants to check to confirm, note that there are 4 grantee codes for Saygus that you need to search: XP3, 2ANBX, 2ANBY, and 2ANBZ. (I found these by using the "Grantee Search" for all companies in South Jordan, Utah). As of this post, XP3 is the only grantee code that yields any results (4 of them, to be exact), and all of them are from 2009. So yeah, either they're lying or perhaps the FCC site just doesn't list grants until they're finalized or whatever. Who knows?

I certainly am never buying a phone from this company even if they do ever manage to actually make one, but I can't stop watching this train wreck out of morbid curiosity at this point.
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
The paperwork still needs to be filed which can explains why we can’t find it on the FCC website yet
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Yeah, that's one possible reason. However, given how many times they've claimed to be ready to ship before, but then (of course) failing to deliver anything, I'm inclined to believe this is just more nonsense to keep stringing along the few backers they have left. I honestly wouldn't put anything past these guys at this point.

On another point, here's an interesting comment by user "Tim Darkinsaw" here that says their office seems to be deserted these days: http://www.droid-life.com/2017/08/14/guys-saygus-v2-supposedly-passed-fcc/#comment-3469351591 (You'll have to scroll down and click "Show Comments". It looks like Droid-Life's Disqus permalinks are broken...)
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
maybe, if Saygus lies, why recent registrations on FCC ?
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Yes, those are the grantee codes I already listed, but searching for actual grants (the "Authorization Search" page on the FCC site) for any of those codes except for XP3 (which was created in 2009) yields no results.

Contrast that with, say, OnePlus, whose code is 2ABZ2. When you search for grants for them, you get 168 results. Even Essential Products, Inc (grantee code 2ALBB), who haven't even shipped their phone yet, have 40 grants listed.

I don't claim to be an expert on FCC certification, but you would think that if Saygus had really completed FCC certification for the V2, we'd see at least one authorization newer than 2009. Maybe the "passed the FCC" tweet is referring to them being able to register their company 3 times as a grantee? If so, they still haven't gotten FCC approval, and still have a long, long way to go if they are actually planning to ever ship a phone.
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
I know the note edge took forever to come out. Even if I cancel now I still have to wait for the s6 edge to launch which will take ages. And the price is going to be sky high and with regards to storage I really doubt UK will import or the variety.
[Saygus V²] Stijn Maller:
Good post, I fully agree and it almost makes me want to put an order in. ;)

If you've already bit the bullet and decided to pre-order, backtracking now is IMVHO not necessary. Apart from a bit of dodgy communication and a delay which was to be expected, not much has changed since the day you decided to commit. But others clearly feel different and that's their good right. :good:
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
I agreed with you guys.. Let's all just stick to our orders and wait.

Furthermore, they did indicate that at least by 30 March 2015 the shipping will take place. So why not just wait until 1st week of April?

Let's give them our support and if it doesn't turn out well, we will get our refund.

It is not easy to make a comeback after their first smartphone failed to take off. We give them time. We will wait and see. They deserved some credits for being bold and come up with a superphone.

We, shall wait and see. I believed they have their reasons for all this slow responses.

Look at the product at MWC, it has a much cleaner and a more polished look. There are more apps on the phone during demo. All these shows that there are some progression.

I urged all of you to just wait and see. Stay on the positive...

All will be fine... :)
[Saygus V²] dragon-tmd:
I just ordered the Saygus V² because i think, that this beast will be one fine smartphone. Years ago i did the same with my Sendo X. Which tooks ages to come out.

I think, the guys at Saygus actueally have to do a lot of things the same time and maybe the will fail. BUT if they succeed, there will be another player on the market. I liked my OnePlus One and i hope, that the Saygus V² will be better. But it depends on US, the community to bring it to life. We have to deleop custom-roms and stuff like that. Otherwise is will be just another Geek-Smartphone which will be sold at ebay in a few months for some bucks...
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
I also believe everybody here should try to be patient, unless you need your money back or need a new phone NOW (you can always buy a cheap Nokia 520/1 on amazon)! This is bigger than just getting a new phone, it's about getting what we as consumers want all in one phone and, for me, supporting an American company.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Thank you everyone here for your affirmation...

:thumbup:
[Saygus V²] Stijn Maller:
I think I will do the same when I get home from work tonight. What ordernumber did you get? I wonder if the MWC has sparked another batch of preorders?
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
I say no to supporting company just for its American background. I say yes to supporting company for listening to customers. What they did is an investment in something they cannot fully charge: open source phone: exchangeable battery, unlocked phone, anti-cloud storage, no compromises to openness. I say yes to those things and wait for the competition to the private data-greedy-friendly companies. Imagine Samsung S6 or HTC M9 chaining your data to "cloud" or one battery limited time device. Thats a no-go for me and yet, I want a decent high- spec device. So I stick with them even though i can barely afford it.

To Saygus I say- work on communication- even with some bad news and fairplay you will earn respect of your fans. Silence is starting to backfire as I see people thinking to back away or already did that. We are waiting and we would rather be aware or work out some problems with you (if possible) then stand here and not knowing what is going on. I know you are reading this thread.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
I would certainly hope that it has created a batch of new orders. They've now got their product out on a world market base now. Big bucks get spent to enter into the MWC. There's no turning back for them at this point. They're all in. They don't make this phone work, they bust. If they have over 3,000 units sold now, that's well over $1.5M in revenue at this point. I'm sure most of that is spent (and that is our money; anyone who has pre-ordered)! Hope they make it work.

Kinda concerns me that in a month since CES they've made little to no advancement on installing a camera app that works on that phone? It's not rocket science. In another post in this thread someone else eluded to being annoyed that they keep pushing the WiHD thing and they keep playing the same game. In one of the more recent videos at MWC, I see they have played a Yahoo video or webpage, or Yahoo Podcast from the WiHD to a larger screen:confused:, so at least we know the WiFi is working and we should be fairly confident the internet app works...that's a good thing!

Good video if you don't mind German. http://www.computerbild.de/videos/cb-News-Handy-Saygus-V2-Smartphone-11474935.html

Also good video, finally in English https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j970TlNYjHM Notice the CAMERA APP ICON on the home screen! They also play some video through the WiHD.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
"It's gonna ship in second quarter" video says. "Second quarter" of what? May? Year? Century?
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
Oh wow they have a working internet app! Sounds like it will be released in the next few days!! wow!!!

---------- Post added at 06:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:46 PM ----------

Second quarter: from the beginning of April to the end of June
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Anybody else also please?
[Saygus V²] limpopo:
Great to see there has been no regression on the WirelessHD function - almost two months since we first saw it, and it is still working.
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
I seriously don't get why the big deal about this wireless thing either. In this day and age mhl or casting the screen works fine most of the time. There is still a slight delay for games even with the wireless hd, which too me makes it no point.
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
They can re-tweet people on twitter but they can't even give us a quick update or the announcement they promised last week?
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/572845813279424513

A little satisfaction
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
same old same old, pictures and videos of just the phone... or Wireless HD... and as I stated earlier they can re-tweet people but they can't give us a quick update or even give us the announcements they promised last week?
[Saygus V²] Vapour_909:
It looks like the WiHD reciever is as big as a webcam. Sucks that to use this feature you're required to have something sitting visibly in front of, or on top of the tv. I hope they make this as small as possible and allow it to be clamped to the bottom of the TV or someplace slightly concealed.
[Saygus V²] sonhy:
Yeah im close to asking for a refund as well, lots of uncertainty for us non-us buyers.

There doesn't seem to be any waterproofing seals on the battery area, would really sux if it turns out waterproofing doesnt fully work, or some other fault cos they rushed the product. sending it back would make the phone as costly as all other high end devices.

How does nano water repellent stop shorting of the sd card slots or the battery terminals? I'm sure the final design will have some rubber seal or something.
[Saygus V²] Miggity12:
They just tweeted a bunch of useless drivel, but Andreas (dev dot erhard dot cc) has posted today that they passed the FCC and it should appear on the website in a few days. Of course, we've all heard that before.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Sure, sure. Next they'll promise they're actually shipping (because they've never said that before...)

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LOLOLOLOL Their only recent tweet that is actually related to their phone is a retweet of themselves from JULY saying the phone is totally working with one of their classic "demonstration" videos. Haven't seen any more tweets about their supposed FCC approval, so my guess is Andreas is just speculating. Unless he still claims to have direct contact with Saygus and they tell him things they don't tell anyone else, which seems quite bizarre to me. :rolleyes:
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
FCC Grants

Well, what do you know? Their FCC grants were posted yesterday for their fourth code, 2ANBZ. You can check the FCC site for the listing, which is interesting because if you look at their submitted docs you can view what looks like an early draft of the user manual and some device photos and test reports. Looks like things are moving along, for this already outdated phone... Who knows what will happen next? (My prediction is more delays and excuses, but I'd be happy if they surprised everyone and actually delivered something to the poor souls who are still waiting for a phone.)
[Saygus V²] field893:
Hello, here are months and no more talk about Saygus V2 plus we all have seen that FCC tests have passed well, so most of those who pre-ordered have received this smartphone or is going to receive, maybe tell us the impressions of it.

Thanks, sorry for my English.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
You don't need to apologize--your English is pretty good! :)

The V2 "passed" a few FCC tests, but that doesn't mean that Saygus is ready for shipping yet. As far as I know, this phone has not shipped to anyone yet. They are currently claiming to be "very close" to shipping, and using words like "absolutely" and "definitely" on their twitter account, but we've all seen this kind of language from them before. We'll have to wait and see if they are telling the truth this time. Their phone is so outdated at this point, I'm not sure what good it will do them if they actually do ship.

I'm sure those who still held on to their preorders will share their thoughts here if they ever get the V2.
[Saygus V²] field893:
Hello, thank you @ Cullenator, for your answer to the question, now let's hope our colleague @ Andreas who received the smartphone, will tell us the impressions about it, hopefully ...
[Saygus V²] Miggity12:
I don't think Andreas received a Saygus V2, he got the domain name sayg.us to move his Saygus info onto.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
I'm sorry to correct you, but I haven't received any smartphone from Saygus yet. Otherwise you would have probably already read it on my website.

As soon as I have received mine, or anything else noteworthy happens, I'll post it there. ;)

Yep, you're right! Over the years that whole one-page thing has gotten quite confusing and since I've always just added single updates without any date, there is no real time relation of those posts except their order. That's why I decided to go for an own domain name and to restructure all contents. Another neat feature will be an RSS and Atom newsfeed, which hopefully will help you to keep track of my posts.

I hope you'll like it! :)

I'm still working on the last pages of my bachelor thesis right now, so please don't expect the relaunch to happen before mid/end of March. 2018 of course! :p

Greetings from Germany

andreas5232
[Saygus V²] Frouxy:
Refund Saygus V2 (Indiegogo)

Hello everybody,

Im trying to get a refund from Saygus where I ordered a phone via Indiegogo. Could you tell what's the best way to get a refund, please?

I remember some people and threads speaking about it but can't get my hand on it...

Thank you un advance for your help,

Félix
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
I'm so sorry to be the one to tell you this, but prepare for the worst--you might not be able to get your money back. :( Indiegogo has really bad policies around refunds. Basically as soon as the campaign ends and the campaign creator has received the money, you can't get a refund from Indiegogo.

However, you still might be able to get a refund from Saygus.

I'll tell you what I did with my regular pre-order from their website (this was quite a few years ago at this point). What I did to get a refund was simply (without being rude or emotional) telling them that I no longer had faith that they would deliver a product on the promised schedule and would initiate a chargeback with my credit card company if I didn't receive a full refund in 5 business days. I emailed their support team and called them when I hadn't heard back in a day. They did eventually get back to me with a refund, but I would have followed through and called my credit card company if they hadn't. I'm not sure if you'd be able to threaten a chargeback since you paid the money to Indiegogo, but it might be a possibility. You might also get some attention if you complain with public tweets mentioning [MENTION=7954984]SayGus[/MENTION].

Unfortunately, this might not work for you because of Indiegogo, but it's worth a try... Good luck!
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Hi Félix,

please try to follow the regular path for a refund and open a ticket using saygus.com or email their customer support.

As far as my experience goes, this should work out pretty well.

If you haven't heard back from Saygus within a week or haven't received your refund within two weeks, please let me know. I'm not sure how Saygus' recent refund policy is, but all refund tickets I've heard of, have been finally payed back in the end.

Andreas
[Saygus V²] Frouxy:
Thank you guys for your help, it seems Saygus finally start my refund process.

Cheers
[Saygus V²] mklpickle:
I'm thinking that the Saygus Phone isn't gonna happen, huh.....
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Ya think? I called this for what it was like 4yrs ago.....

People are stupid.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Saygus website says 6-8 weeks. I don't know start from which month but Saygus will let us know shipping date in March.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
It has that nano coating so it doesn't need the rubber seal(according to saygus.)

They stated that back when the pre-orders started.
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
They'll probably tell us some bs like oh no it's 6 to 8 weeks from when we get the March shipping times. Because in reality it's already been 4 weeks for a lot of us from their original eta.
[Saygus V²] sonhy:
Yeah mate, i saw the words nano coating too. im thinking deeper into it, like logically the terminals wouldn't be coated so they can make contact, and thus water could enter bridging the small tiny gap between positive and negative points right?

If they had seals around the terminal areas and card slots somehow, id understand but doesnt loook like it.

this and other factors like, no solid shipping date or cost, no new vids of functional features, i saw the camera app but no one opened it, maybe they weren't allowed? , plus the aussie dollar is dropping fast against the us, so I should actually get paid for waiting all this time :p

With all the uncertainty and as time goes by, for me it might be best to get refund and wait for detailed reviews.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
https://twitter.com/shem_pl/status/572742660798210048/photo/1
[Saygus V²] Oupss:
Apparently, the phone the journalist holds hasn't the same app arrangement than the other they show, on the base.

The one on the base has CAMERA APP ICON, but not the other. The camera app icon is not in the app list between 1:25 and 1:29.

So i think exhibition models have this icon, maybe because not tested by journalist and the ones they offer to test do not have this feature.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
im worried by the time I get the phone it won't be so super.
[Saygus V²] mastewman:
Here is what I do, with any current or new flagship phone and you may have done this as well but I keep reviewing all the capabilities against all the other phones. And for me, there is only 2 possibly 3 things the other flagship phones may have an advantage over the V2. However, for me they are insignificant, when compared to the sum of all the capabilities... (I.e. Super Smart Phone)
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
They haven't updated any news about the company since 14th January.

https://www.saygus.com

I am going with the being busy theory here.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Yes, if they are Super Late
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
GSMARENA at MWC 3 MARCH 2015

See this site.

http://www.gsmarena.com/various_mwc_2015-review-1221p7.php

Also this

http://www.gsmchoice.com/en/news/3918/MWC-2015:-Saygus-V2-which-is-the-American-in-Barcelona.html
[Saygus V²] post_break:
People in this thread getting impatient even though Saygus didn't give a solid ship date. Seriously, if you're not able to handle waiting for a preorder, don't preorder lol.
[Saygus V²] letinsh:
I agree. This company has never released a phone and need to iron out all the things that go along with that (completing the engineering/dev, getting the device production ready, passing provider certs, etc) I think we're seeing that their dev cycle is lagging a little behind the big shows of the year, but they needed a presence there to market the phone.

I'm not worried, though I would prefer sooner than later (was coming from an S3, but that took a crap over the weekend. I had to pull my OG Droid out of cold storage. Let me tell you what....there's nothing like a few weeks back on Gingerbread to really cause an appreciation for all that is going on with the V2).

Having said that, what is the competition? The S6? No SD card, no removable battery - the 2 things that torched the iphone in the first place....

OnePlus One? Runs on GSM, not CDMA like us Verizon users need....

What else is there? Nothing that I can see in the immediate future.

Just gonna suffer through some Gingerbread and wait it out :highfive:
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
Be patient ....

THEY SAID VERY CLEAR SHEPING WILL START 6 TO 8 WEEKS..

its now 4 week since preorder started !!!

We all know that saygus people are SO busy these day in MWC WHICH WILL END TOM..

I think we will hear good news soon ..so be patient :)
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
They should not have taken the money from my card then until they were ready to ship.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Lack of feedback is what is bothering me. I will go with the reason here. I just need one or two.
[Saygus V²] Oupss:
According to a french site lesnumeriques, Saygus designers told them shipping for preorders will happen between may and june.
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
you never know if thats true Or not !!!!

They said!!! and saygus mentioned clearly 6 to 8 weeks!! In there web!!

i dont realy take any news in maind bez they are different and not true somtimes :)
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
Yeah this exactly is why many of is are impatient!
[Saygus V²] guent_peer:
Yes, hearing that I feel a beginning impatience even if I just ordered today... ;)
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Oh la la....

https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/573213305424068608

some heavy words on 460Gb potential are implied on Saygus's direct info source (currently only one).

How does this affect their speed protocol plan? I mean if they plan to advertise close to 1/2 TB storage before they start shipping- there will be no end to hardware updates. We just might end up waiting forever while they continue preparing for the best/ biggest/ fastest there is.
[Saygus V²] Planterz:
This likely follows Sandisk's announcement of 200gb microSD cards from a day or 2 ago.
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
So if they really intended to ship to preorders in another 2 to 4 weeks then they have to have the hardware finalized and being produced by now right? If so they could theoretically ship the phones and issue software updates for fixes couldn't they?

That would be better than having the phones sit in a warehouse somewhere collecting dust.

And if they haven't started producing then for us then they would have lied to us about the intention of shipping in the original 6 to 8 weeks eta...

I just want my Damn phone lol
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcuXa0RZJw

New video today, actually shows the camera app in use....I like to see that.

I guess the S-V2 does the best selfies in the world?
[Saygus V²] limpopo:
Yea! Shows the camera ui projected onto a TV screen using ............... you guessed it, WirelessHD!!!!!
[Saygus V²] GeneralMayhem:
Some good news for Australians who have pre-ordered, like myself, Ausdroid have confirmed Aus bands & they are delivering to Australia.

I'd include the link but not enough posts.

Glad they are now delivering to Australia as they didn't mention anything int he pre-order.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
sdxc supports up to 2tb, a new size card shouldn't change anything.

I think the biggest issue people have is the fact that saygus has mainly been silent instead of giving any updates about things.
[Saygus V²] sonhy:
Im very sure the V2 supported all bands from day one, the pre-order questions had my carrier details and city location all there... this ausdroid site might have just woken up from a coma :p your best bet for update is here mate! whats unknown is the cost Saygus will charge to ship to Oz.