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[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Realism

I just don't wanna be pessimistic and spoil your sweet dreams guys, But I'm expecting another shipping delay at this point. Almost two weeks left for the announced shipping date and we didn't see a fully functioning unit or unboxing yet. I just want to see how the back and front facing camera work, fingerprint scanner, water proofing and Sun Viewable Technology , ...etc.

Don't you think guys that a reliable smartphone business is easy. Just ask Ericsson, Siemens, Palm, hp, Dell, and the two legends Nokia & Motorola, ask them why did they phase out or sell their handset division. Just watch how Sony, BlackBerry, Amazon and HTC are suffering and considering to leave this business right now!. It is very costly and difficult to compete in this business field. I doubt that Saygus Inc. could well-manage this business, and I hope I'm wrong.

Please, this is my opinion only and I hope that the Saygus angry fans are gonna respect it this time.
[Saygus V²] bag123boy:
Agree to ur concern as I'm also having mix feeling, but hope that u and my guts are wrong. Cuz I get ask a lot by family and friends "when is your new phone arriving":sly::sly:
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Just my opinion as a business owner myself.

I believe if having a new hot product that has exciting new features and/or features many want together on one device, you would WANT to create a fervor with media as to bring excitement and positive hype to your product.

Albeit providing the device truly is 100% ready for public release.

It would behoove one to NOT create a media stir about your product release. Having a team to tap into modern media is key when releasing a new product.

Why Saygus chooses to do things the way they do is baffling.

Hopefully they step things up as far as public media and promotion is concerned. It would be to their advantage no doubt.

I mean who wouldn't want such an awesome device?
[Saygus V²] tightos:
My wife has been making fun of me since like the beginning of March!

When she "pre-ordered" her iPhone 6.....she was able to track her order from the actual day she placed her order, through the manufacturing of it and straight up to delivery at her door...... but as I said before..... I'd be letting myself down, if I were to think Saygus could do something like that.

Don't get me wrong ppl..... my order has been in since Feb. 22nd and I am still going through with my purchase till the end..... delay and all. I'm not being negative..... just realistic.

I get really pissed off, when Saygus goes into "silent mode"!!!!
[Saygus V²] theleftykid:
Shipping date

When would they inform us about the shipping fee? They better have to contact us soon on how nuch we need to pay for the shipping rather than wait until May 22. They already knew the country of people who ordered the phone. What are they doing then? It is going to be a mess to process and ship orders in one day. How could they ship 2000 phones in one day if they have to go through the list of people who preordered first. I don't think the preorder number will be followed. This really means that they are not totally ready for their product.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Time for saygus to appease the community again.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Thank you very much for the link.Btw will amazon.com ship these to India?
[Saygus V²] minatour44:
website with some odd info

http://androidinfo.net/saygus-v2-release-date-may-22nd/

free phones and refunds on pre orders,- what ever next, i would love to know his source.

waiting patiently for the best phone ever (hopefully), starting to become obsessed with checking this forum :(
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Thank you Andreas for your timely updates.I would like to get transparent skin cover.Is it available?

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Exactly.:D

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And enacted...
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
I do know Saygus have offered free EARBUDS "valued at $229, but not free smartphones.....

I think that the author of this article is somewhat confused.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
This is all I could find for Amazon India
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I don't even want to speculate anymore. What's going to happen is going to happen and I'll just have to trust that it's shipping may 22 until I hear otherwise. I won't be buying a qi charger or Hoslter until I've used the phone for a week or so and decided to keep it. Odd about the twitter thing and 24/7 chat is pretty well useless, I think they just have scripted answers and probably don't really have anymore info than we do. So I wait for shipment or a delay announcement, either way it's been a fun ride. After this experience and my current oneplus one buying a phone that exists and is easy to get just seems boring.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Thank you again for the help.But I didn't find the ones in Amazon.in to the liking of mine.So will it be possible to get the ones from Amazon.com?
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
If you can order from the US site, yes. You may also want to check the Amazon.co.uk site
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Yes.Ishall try first Amazon.com.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
Not to thread crap, but ZTE just released a pretty sweet device.... https://plus.google.com/u/0/s/zte nubia z9

Wonder when this will hit the streets in the US?

Saygus, take note, your equipment is getting older by the day. Any delays past 5.22 and 3/4ths of the people on this thread will probably bail out. I know I will.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
I'll be the first one to cancel my order if there would be another delay past May 22nd. I read Saygus terms and conditions and found that order canceling is not possible after 30 days of phone purchasing. If Saygus will not accept to cancel my order at that time, I'll initiate a 'fraud' bank calim.

Also, there are a lot of nice options came from ZTE, Huawei, Lenovo, Meizu, and Xiaomi. But unfortunately, I could not find any of them support US 4G LTE. I hope these companies will start releasing great devices in the US
[Saygus V²] MikeyMike01:
Speaking of crap, why would anyone want that ZTE over a Saygus. It's got half the features, at best, and none of the things I care about most.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
I don't disagree with you at all MikeyMike, but if Saygus pushes the release date again, then ZTE has twice the features of Saygus, simply because ZTE is available to the pubic and Saygus would then just be another pipe dream like the V-phone in 2010. We'll have to just hang in there for two more weeks and see what happens, but if they push the date, then I'll be #2 in line to request a refund, just behind the guy 2 posts up^ :rolleyes:

Plus at this point we need something to talk about in this thread....Saygus has all but clammed up since 4/25.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Saygus actually replied to a tweet today to say that orange backs are not available. Random. How about some useful information?
[Saygus V²] bob90210:
So, orange is not the new back.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Damn. I wish I thought of that one. You made me lol.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
The ZTE phone looks nice but here in the states I'd be looking at a 700-750 dollar price tag through resellers. Should saygus fail I can get a great deal on a note 4 now or just grab the blackberry passport which is a really nice phone.
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
I'm pretty sure that Saygus is fully aware how important 5/22 is to their sustainability. I don't doubt they're working hard to get it to happen. The anxiety though is from folks who have literally pre-ordered the entire purchase. Not just a $100 deposit or anything; paid in full. After 3/31, I just said to myself "I'll gladly still support Saygus and buy their phone when it comes out and it works as needed, but I don't see the value in a fully paid pre-order. Especially considering the volume of unknowns still." I didn't see the point of pre-buying just to save $50.

We are literally in the first week of May now, with a public showing of the device being early January at CES (right?). I don't think I know a single thing more about the V2 than I did in January, even after keeping up with this thread.

I'm definitely pulling for Saygus though. Hope they hit that 5/22 mark and the product works as needed. I cringe at the thought of needing tech support from them though....

I still believe that Saygus should be shipping the phones to customers directly from Utah, not drop-shipped from China.
[Saygus V²] tightos:
Reply from Saygus (USA)

Rosco

Wed, 05/06/15 5:28 pm

Hello,

We appreciate your enthusiasm to buy our products! We are busy trying to work out those details and get them out to the public ASAP. We can work out 2 things since you are really excited to be able to purchase them.

1. I can send you an email as soon as it gets posted on our website.

2. As long as you follow us on Twitter, you will get a notification when we make those products available.

Regards,

Saygus Team
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Ever since I started watching this thread (Early February?), it's been speculation, people that can't handle the anxiety, bickering, and trolling. May 22nd is what they said. What _new_ company came through on the first release date announced? What smartphone manufacture has not had problems getting their phone out on time? Please tell me. I'm excited for saygus, and can't wait to hold it in my hand :). Just be patient.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Time for some news

Dear Saygus fans and followers,

I've recently had another call with Saygus and as a result I've got some news for you.

Many of you have been confused by some Live Chat answers about the GSM and CDMA capability last week.

The V² comes with the Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 chipset on board, which supports both networks. See Qualcomm's website for further details: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/801

There is no need for a special CDMA version of the V²!

Since the V² comes fully unlocked, you will be able to use it on every network you want, if your carrier allows it.

Saygus is expecting the carrier certification processes to be finished in July/August, as the carriers also need some final devices. Until then the V² is kind of "GSM only", except your CDMA carrier allows you to use it on its network.

This also means, that already pre-ordered devices will work on Sprint/Verizon's CDMA networks, as soon as the V² has been successfully approved by those carriers.

The first batch of devices will ship with Android 4.4.4 KitKat on board. The Update to Android 5.x.x Lollipop will be available in June and all devices shipped afterwards will be delivered with Lollipop as stock.

Another noteworthy information: The partnering with a large European distributor is almost done and you can expect the V²'s pre-ordered from European countries to be shipped from within Europe. No more worries about VAT issues or import duties. Isn't that great? :D

Everyone at Saygus is very busy and they are doing their very best to get everything finished by May 22nd. In the last week before the launch they even expect to work 24/7. Right now everything looks good for the shipping on May 22nd, but if there may occur some major problems on the finishing straight, the shipping could get delayed a

few

days.

Anyway, that's definitely not what they are striving for! Saygus will keep you informed about any delays and available accessories, as soon as possible and will provide you the final shipping details within the next two weeks.

Furthermore they have got an additional Twitter person now and you can expect some more Twitter activity in the next days.

Best wishes from Germany,

Andreas
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
Are you the Twitter person Andreas? ;)
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Right now everything looks good for the shipping on May 22nd, but if there may occur some major problems on the finishing straight, the shipping could get delayed a few days.

-___________

Hmmm so they are priming us for the delay?
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
I'll probably disappoint you, but the answer is: no.

But even if I'm not in yet, that doesn't mean that this won't happen in the future. ;)

Nevertheless I will keep this going and let you know about any further details I get.

That wasn't the intention of my wording.... In this case probably my english skills are the problem. :D

It's more like this: 'If there will be any delay, it would be only a question of a few days, not weeks'.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Your English is fine friend. I'm just more concerned with their wording or even mentioning a delay. Thanks for the work you do.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Damn it! What now comes to mind is a story of V- phone. If I remember well, they were trying to start big because of new feature: conference video. They were waiting carriers aproval for so long- it turned into vaporware- they lost edge. What I am reading now is almost the same story. By the detail. With the same company. V² was announced in January and now there are some models with 4gig RAM. I hope they go fast. Half of the story has already repeated.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I just wouldn't think if they were confident that they would even mention delays
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
The vphone was never planned as 'worldphone' and thus the approval by Verizon/Sprint had been crucial, but I don't see that much similarities as you do.

In comparison to the 'old story', the V² comes fully unlocked now and can be used without any specific carrier approval. on almost every GSM/CDMA/LTE network.

Anyway it's very important for Saygus to find some carriers and retailers to partner with, in order to get more than only ~10.000 units sold.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
It would be disappointing if there was a delay no matter how long, but it is something that I knew would be a possibility.

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Agree I don't see the similarities between V2 and the V'
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
[MENTION=5122214]andreas5232[/MENTION]

Any person from here can receive the same info as you have.

I too called today and received almost the same information, which equated to no more then a skirting of the hard questions.

As I said to Saygus, "your responses seemed to be scripted." The reply I received was. "I'm truly sorry I have no more to offer you, then what I am told to say."

I was also told "keep watching for more news and updates through our media sources. Exciting things will be revealed over the next couple weeks." To which I replied "There are only 12 business days left. If I have to wait for a couple weeks, this would imply a delayed delivery."

I was once again told "I'm truly sorry I have no more to offer you, then what I am told to say."

All in all, things still seem to be awry.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Thanks for the info, shouldn't be an issue
[Saygus V²] zakiwashi:
Here we go, a reply at least: "Hey, we really apologize for the delayed/lack of responses. We have been inundated with questions and we have been working hard to try to respond to all questions. We can understand your concern. Please know we are working on this!

We truly appreciate your interest and support of the V². We are super excited about it and know you will love it!

Please let us know what further questions you have. We promise we will be better at responding in the future.

Thank you and kind regards,

The Saygus Team"

I am a little less concerned!
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Hi Guys, I have been receiving a few emails responses to my queries since yesterday. I must say that finally I got a few replies after more than a week.

Also I have received feedback from them that certain detailed features of the V2 will not be made available yet due to competitive reasons.

So if you want to ask about camera sensor, durability of the material etc pls do not prompt them as it will be available in time to come.

So just sit back, relax and get ready for a series of hands-on videos and photo coming soon in late March or early April.

:D
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Hands on video in early April? After the phone should have been shipped? Lol
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
I suspecting during the upcoming Mobile World Congress they will showcase the phone..which is like on the 2nd March..

Okay I really don't know anything about hands on video for the final product.. Maybe you can enlighten me? Thanks Boom515..
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
I'm not expecting this phone to land on my porch until April and that's fine with me! Nothing better will be out before then anyway, S6, G4, M9. Bring it!!
[Saygus V²] zakiwashi:
I sent another email today regarding the shipping of the item to the UK asking about dodging some or all of the vat and got this reply back in less than two hours!

"We’re not sure at this point about shipping options but we we’ll see what we can do as we get closer to a ship date.

Thanks again for your support!"
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
I really doubt they can do something like that because all courier service follow rules. So how will they pull this off. Opo on the other hand had a ware house in UK where they would ship the items
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
So, they can't have a "hands on video"

after

shipping the phone to us?
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Yep that's exactly what I said, no wait... It's not. I just find it odd. Once the phone is shipped the customers will take care of the hands on videos for you.
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
I think that if they send a review unit to any of the hands on video e.g to erica or Android authority etc it would be great.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
MKBHD would be my choice of reviewer but I like Erica too, she goes deep with long reviews.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Absolutely, getting a fully functional unit in reviewers hands would be great. Perhaps their intention wasn't to pre-sell a ton of units but rather pre-sell enough to get moving and grow from there. I'm not sure what the profit margin would be but I'm sure they'd rather sell more at 599 minus the battery and screen protector than at 549 with the 2 items. Among the places I talk tech the 2 Main reasons people didn't want to buy were 1. Lack of proof/review of a fully functional unit 2. Price.
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
Her reviews are long and detailed but good she has a time skip mkbhd is good. I wonder if his ordered one
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
It's hard to gauge the interest level of this phone at this point. There was so much hype after CES and now nothing. My excitement has cooled a little but it still delivers everything I've wanted in a phone and more. I doubt marques or Erica have ordered one but if Saygus is smart they will send a review unit out to them.
[Saygus V²] s-lps3:
Well I just to MWC website and don't see them on the Exhibitors list so not really sure what they have planned. I just hope they do come through with a final product no later than the end of April.

So is anyone planning on getting the 128gb sd cards? And is anyone else hoping to buy different back covers? I know I like the gold / yellow carbon, and red they were showing off at CES.

I'm really hoping Otterbox hops on board and creates a case. I guess it will be a lot guessing and wishes until mid march.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I won't be happy if I got to wait any longer than first week of April. JS
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
Agreed...

If the zenphone 2 is ready to ship to US before this phone I'm jumping ship.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
March is out for sure but like you I'm hoping for early April. It will be easier to wait if we get some new looks and a review or three.

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Have you seen the dimensions on the zenphone 2? It's freaking huge! That's what I'm trying to get away from, my G3 is just too big and I'm tired of the size. Want to go back to a "small" phone and using a tablet for movies and such.
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
Yes I have seen it. I am okay with g3 size. But prefer the nexus 5 size. The longer this phone takes to come out the more appeal it loses though.

They said expected ship date 6 to 8 weeks at the beginning of feb. So mid March to early April. So early April should be latest. I know a lot of you feel this won't happen and I'm skeptical, but if that's the case they really shouldn't give unrealistic time frames. It only looks bad on them in the end. They should give longer eta and ship early then it could only look good for them.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
So nerve wracking.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
No doubt.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
At least andreas is helping keep optimism alive.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
Stark,

Have you pre-ordered a V2?
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
Sweet, thanks for the clarification on the CDMA!

I did some research into non-carrier phones with similar setups (both CDMA and GSM), and found the reason CDMA needs carrier approval. Apparently the CDMA radio binaries are signed by the carrier, and unsigned/forged/unapproved binaries are prohibited from connecting to the network (licensing BS). This limitation is not present in GSM radios, and people have had success getting phones with Verizon-compatible LTE bands on the network simply by asking tech support to add the phone's IMEI to the device whitelist.

I suspect that once Sprint/Verizon approve the device, they will either permit the binaries, or Saygus will push approved binaries to the phone via an update. :D

Now to wait!

Also, glad they're shipping with KitKat. Lollipop just has too many issues right now, both in the OS and application compatibility.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
Hey cm12 5.0.2 isn't too bad at all. I think the biggest part of being back on 4.4.4 is xposed support woo. Xposed on 5.0 is fine for the most part but it doesn't work on 5.1 for the most part.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
I agree with you.On looking into the specs of ZTE, I see that it doesn't have a removable battery.And it shows TBC for Card slot.What is it?Also for Fingerprint sensor it shows EXCLUSIVE.What does it mean?

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Thank you and I support you.

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Thank you Andreas for the prompt update.But sadly this will not stop the further whining and trolling.New horizons in this regard will be widened up!

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Present Lollipop 5.1.1 based Cm12.1 ROMs are far better than KitKat in performancewise and now in battery consumptionwise too.Moreover Rovo has released 5.1 compatible Xposed too.But one problem is that the modules compatible to this are very rare now.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Twitter blowing up
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
Looks like something this Friday as in next Tuesday.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Yeah. Id be surprised if they fit it in this week.
[Saygus V²] Omegaclawe:
You aren't exactly talking to the engineers, here. Saygus hired them (or their company) and gave them a bunch of relevant information. They couldn't anticipate everything. You would find many of the same "scripted" type responses from large companies... and frankly, it's better than the support people just "guessing" what might be right.
[Saygus V²] minatour44:
cool update page with info and shipping countdown timer :)

http://dev.erhard.cc/saygusV2
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
As a matter of fact, yes. Ordered first day of pre-order.

Why would you be asking?
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
I really do enjoy the immaturity and lack of simple English syntax in their tweets.

"No funny sounds...it's Harman Larson for cryin out loud. They shake out..."

"We aren't professional photags, but we did take a cutie if very low light shots that looked great to us."

"For sure! Eat under $100! We are shooting for $50 to $60 USD."

"Well check with engineers Fri.hit me back please. Thx"

:rolleyes:
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Might have thought that you are a window shopper!