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[Saygus V²] aspid667:
If they will sent the units to beta testers then how they will make such great informative videos?
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
Well the wait is almost over....

No, the other wait. Nokia will be producing phones before these clowns....

http://company.nokia.com/en/news/pr...on-of-nokia-branded-mobile-phones-and-tablets
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
They are not clowns! They are working very hard. Remember the guy over the Twitter who wrote that they've built many-many phones? Just see how many new phones they've built during past 16 months: Samsung S7 and S7 Edge, New Sony Xperia X series, Xiaomi Mi5, HTC 10, Huawei P9, iPhone 6S and many others! They are simply so busy with all those new amazing phones, so simply don't have enough time to finish V2. After all Saygus team is small and has lot of amazing phones to build. Including new ones for Nokia.
[Saygus V²] Makavelli-:
Whats goin on again? They now passed the last weekly update, so are there probably upcoming bad news that they won't tell us?

Naaaf, nightmare come to be real:eek:
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
I think they give up. No news means some trouble ;) no certification, and they begun from new. Build again a phone after 19 months ;)

I am so happy that i didnt wait anymore. Just want to know, what will be happen in the next time with saygus V2 ;)

Before I look every day, or try to find some more news in google and so on. Now I look one time a week or one time in two weeks.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Out of reasons. They don't know what reasons to give.
[Saygus V²] post_break:
I wonder if anyone is still hoping for the squiggle headphones lol.
[Saygus V²] Makavelli-:
Yea, which was from a unknown brand, which does also not exist i think.

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[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Another bunch of old stinky lies and self-praise on Twitter... "Weeks, not months"
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
New twitter updated a day or so ago. FCC testing supposedly in two weeks.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Weeks-Not-Months company posted some pre-production garbage images fooling customers into further hopes, promising not to ship in Q2. Waiting for next promise: not to ship in Q3 etc.
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
exactly: sometimes I am wondering why people on twitter believe them and still write sentences like "ohh yes I wait"

Sometimes I think this persons are not real. Just Students that get paid or employees of Saygus.

For me is it impressive to see, that the company testing all the equipment just now. They start to build the phone now not 18 month ago. But you can see, always their are enough stupid people in the world.

Im looking forward too, will i see ever this phone in real. For me not interesting anymore. Expect they would put into the phone the really actually hardware from now not 12 months older hardware.
[Saygus V²] post_break:
An 801 phone in 2016 or will it be 2017? LOL I still can't believe it hasn't shipped yet. I'd have to laugh if LG comes out with a dual SD card phone before they do.
[Saygus V²] zathus:
This still available thing? I stopped keeping up but I imagine at this point saygus just threw in the towel and refunded everyone? It's been like 2 years lol. SD 801. Just a tad outdated
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
some of those pictures look like they are from the batch of pictures they posted a year ago. that is the manufacturing partner that they dumped, perhaps. remember, all buyers get 50% off the next phone. so in a couple months they can buy the next one, which retails for 700 , for just $350. that next phone due out in Q2 2017. limited edition 3 sd card slots. 2 sim card slots, google daydream capable, saygus nightmare ready. comes in black and pink.
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
Turing Robotics have announced a (delayed) shipping date for their "Turing Phone" of July 12.

What is interesting though, is that despite the Turing Phone being initially produced with a Snapdragon 801, they have decided to update the phone to a Snapdragon 820 to pre-purchasers before the end of 2016:

"The first batch of Turing Phone(s) will be shipped as Evaluation Unit(s)" as we wish to upgrade you to the Snapdragon 820 Edition (free of charge) before the end of 2016. Turing Phone shipments will start on July 12th and continue until all units have been shipped. After your package has been dispatched we will send you an email with full tracking details for your reference."

If it's OK for Turing to redevelop their product at relatively short notice to include an up-to-date CPU, why can't Saygus???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1DnMn7P1oU&feature=youtu.be
[Saygus V²] noci2:
So you say you rather like to have the Evaluation model (with 801) they send out soon (tm) and the 820 before end of 2016.

So what is different w.r.t. Saygus they say the same?... they mention a date... Saygus did... and fell through...

And here you're enthousiast?....

My guess both companies had to buy a (few) thousand CPU's upfront to be able to book buildtime in a fab. And both companies hate to throw those CPU's in the wastebin so they still deliver phones with the 801. (nothing to see, continue please)
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Are there users here that still have their money with Saygus? Just curious.
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/749689788245041152

Great, another year wait while they take the time to test out the 128GB chips...

https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/749696016073388032

I... thought they moved production to the 'States because of the issues in China. How could they "hit the States" if they're supposed to be made here? Fishy, fishy!
[Saygus V²] noci2:
If you actually read the announcement the Design went to the USA...., so not too fishy.

AFAICT hardly anyone can beat the assembly prices used in China. Where they also have skilled picking machine operators.

Other memory chip (same model, other size) mostly is a choice of what to piggyback onto the CPU. Memory manufacturers are not stupid, they have a lot of chipsets that are capable for the maximum (pin layout) where some address pins are NC (Not Connected) in case of lower amounts of storage. Also many chipset manufacturers use the same connections layouts. So it is just the amount of money you want to spend on memory... And it is also pretty safe to assume that 128GB chips are cheaper during the last 3 months then to procure 64GB from last year.
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
Originally, and one of the reasons I put money down, was that it was described as being made in the USA - But then they have been fishy all along, in fact it'd be more amazing if they posted anything truthful....
[Saygus V²] limpopo:
Saygus has just made this announcement: "We recently had to pause the FCC certification process due to an issue with the position of WiHD and the front camera."

Source: https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/756675932019097600

Also, "We are finishing the fix on these and expect to start production of the pre-order devices asap and begin shipping as FCC and CE is completed"
[Saygus V²] phixeus:
Thanks for the info. I keep coming back for the lulz since I requested my refund a while back. The good thing is that Saygus is still producing this comedy of errors to keep me entertained.
[Saygus V²] crazedgod:
Just wondering

How many of you are still invested in this phone?
[Saygus V²] Makavelli-:
I am still in the game (but don't know why).

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[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Me too, despite I already got my Mi5 Pro and it is doing just great. But I think I'll ask for refund very soon.
[Saygus V²] Makavelli-:
Yip, i am also interested in the mi5 vor the mi4 because the miui operating system is very good and have some cool gimmicks. Will wait for the next updates in twitter regarding FCC and so on, if there is no way forward i think i will also request my refund...

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[Saygus V²] zathus:
If they ever do launch this phone there going to make hundreds!!! $$$
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
i was watching the video they put out recently on indiegogo and the part which shows the about phone details seems to show the cyanogenMod symbol , or a symbol very close, so i'm wondering if they are running a generic 6.0.1 version of that. another thing is it appears to list a very recent kernel / system build but have only jan 2016 security. so there are some things to iron out on software. but it seems, assuming they release soon, the are going with a basic android 6.0.1 at the time of close to android 7.0 release, another stupid plan.
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
I agree, much better they wait until android 7 is ready then go through all the individual tweaking and programming again......
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
That'll just give them another year to delay.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
heck, it appears, according to the german guy, that saygus is on it. posted 8/10 on his website,

"NEW: For those of you, who are looking forward to Android 7 aka Nougat: an update to Nougat is alreay planned."

no info on when. my guess is months after the phone is released.
[Saygus V²] Miggity12:
My guess is Android 8 Oreo will be released before this phone is.
[Saygus V²] crazedgod:
My bet's on peanut-butter being available by the time they deliver a phone with an 801 processor.
[Saygus V²] mklpickle:
I was actually thing more when Twix was released.
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
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[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
I guess you are referring to Vulkan and OpenGL ES 3.1., right?

As far as I know, Vulkan isn't mandatory yet, so it should be still possible to run Android 7.x Nougat on SD801 devices, but further Android versions may be an issue.

See https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/4z94rm/unless_nougat_can_run_without_vulkan_it_looks/
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Holy crap this thing still ain't out??! Pfft. This is hysterical.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
The post by Randy Poole in facebook

I spoke with the founder yesterday and also the head of manufacturing. Those of you that are waiting for a refund, may not know that not one cent of your money has been spent. Ironically, the money you invested to purchase a new phone must be escrowed until the phone is shipped. It cannot be used to cover the manufacturing costs.

That being said, the phone is a reality. I recently have actually used the number 4 phone that was shipped to the US. I had this production phone for a week.

True, there have been numerous delays causing unlimited frustration but it soon will be available. Believe me, the folks at Saygus share that frustration and are doing everything possible to get the phone ready for shipment. You might be interested in knowing that the internal RAM has been upgraded from 64 gb to 128 gb at no extra cost to the consumer.

I will share more information as I obtain it here as long as I am not flamed. I will do my best to answer questions but I will not enter into an argument with anyone. If that happens, I'll simply pull this post and cease to post any future updates.

On another note, every single preordered phone will be shipped before any other phones are sold. You folks stand at the head of the line.?
[Saygus V²] crazedgod:
Lol I love the "the folks at Saygus share that frustration and are doing everything possible to get the phone ready for shipment". They've been doing "everything they can" for 18 months now and still no phone. Anyone else think it's possible that they actually suck at making phones?
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
What/Who is a Randy Poole?
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Another Saygus spokesman, who spreads more BS.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
oole randy sez "...RAM has been upgraded from 64GB to 128GB.." this sounds so stupid to me it's just another indication of how off the rails anything connected to saygus is.
[Saygus V²] limpopo:
According to Ars, Qualcomm has decided not to provide driver updates for the Snapdragon 801 that would be required to run Nougat. The suggestion is that OEMs may be unwilling to pay Qualcomm to provide this support.

So, if Saygus do ever release this phone, it won't ever run the Android version that was current at its date of release.
[Saygus V²] waterplanet:
Saygus have built up a reputation of being dishonest, and it certainly does not help that they promise to create a product that everyone know is impossible for them to deliver.

https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/765678933643628544
[Saygus V²] 52smitty:
He's one of the top/ senior investors in this Saygus mess. Hence the positivity and the ability to be using phone #4. In other words he belongs to the privileged 1% Saygus elite
[Saygus V²] theleftykid:
Lol. this hasn't still released? Why what happened to Satgus v2? Vack to square one?
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
I'm still waiting for the Saygus V1.....
[Saygus V²] limpopo:
Saygus has been blowing up Twitter again. It says that "shippable phones" are expected at the end of next week, but apparently it cannot share any progress on the FCC certification. Oh, and it suffered from another week long public holiday in Shenzhen - workers' paradise over there!

Source: https://twitter.com/Saygus
[Saygus V²] phone sound 2:
Is the V2 finished?

I ordered a V2 beginning of February 2015. After 7 months of delays and lack of communication from Saygus I requested and received a refund. Since many others were also being refunded, I doubted Saygus could successfully market this phone (they don't manufacture or sell anything else to help fund it).
[Saygus V²] Mighty_X:
I dont really know why, but im still following the saygus story every once and a while. two years ago I even thought of ordering one :) I really doubt that the will actually ship anything but explainations for further delay. Why would anyone get a dream phone with a very slow processor? And customer service will be worse than non exsistent - thats for sure.;)
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
"No update, so here's a stock image we had commissioned a year ago"
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
"NEW: As of now there is a high probability for an updated SD820 version of the VSQUARED"
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
What fantastically s**t news & a kick in the teeth for all of those "victims" who have laid out large sums of money for an outdated SD801 phone (which still hasn't seen the light of day).
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
New menu when you login !
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
NEW: As of now there will be an updated SD820 version of the VSQUARED.

https://dev.erhard.cc/saygusV2
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
That's exciting!

Now Saygus have the opportunity of delaying with THAT phone so it's totally outdated when it's released too.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
The most important information here is "will be". Very promising.
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
Is it audio part of V² ?

http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-will-acquire-harman-for-8-billion-in-cash/
[Saygus V²] dhonzik:
More like V cubed
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
Great news for those of you, who want to get in touch with us: We will be at MWC 2017 confirmed. See you there!

After some production challenges- will discuss them after we ship- we are finally shipping the first devices by the end of December 2016!
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
Flash forward:

"Shipping delayed due to the holiday season"
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Is this thing for real? Still not out. Hilarious. I cannot believe anyone with a brain would have any money with them still.

Easy to see why PayPal declined them.
[Saygus V²] lee480:
well..... last yr they said shipping will begin soon.

What an elaborate scam... ..

https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/647853333613379584
[Saygus V²] theleftykid:
A lot of version upgrades in units was planned but never once the first version is released. A load of crap and scams.
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
:p
[Saygus V²] limpopo:
I have been quite polite about Saygus up until now, but ...

Saygus are now promising to ship the "first batch" of phones at the end of this year, and then to give a free exchange to a new version of the phone with a Snapdragon 820 at a later, unspecified date.

I think that is an offer that could be superficially attractive to some of Saygus's long-suffering customers, so I would just like to point out that there has to be a strong risk that none of this ever happens. In other words, the V Squared may not ship at all, and even if it does, customers may never see the promised upgrade.

Source: https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/800883417390817281

Just sayin'.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
They will simply ship nicely printed specs sheet with the blank field for CPU details where you could put your own desired chip model.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
yeah, kinda hard to believe that it's been close to 2 years now. i think there were close to 2,000 pre-order customers, the ones that bought in right at the start. i wonder how many of those are still onboard ?
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
Coming up for my first anniversary of "bail-out".

Can't say I regret that decision! ;)
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Really going out on a limb there.
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
inb4 they cancel it after receiving "poor reviews"
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
LOL! Yeah, I can't imagine anyone believes a word they say after the hundredth time they've claimed their "review devices" are in. They haven't even fake-promised a shipping date yet, so I'm sure it will be another few months until they update their customers again.

What would be incredible is if they actually did ship phones one day and it actually lived up to all the promises the company made. I'd say the chances of that happening are 1 million to 1 at this point.

Anyway, I'm glad I already got my refund and moved on; I can't imagine the stress of waiting over 2 years for them to release a phone. I'm just looking forward to hearing the story behind the scenes about what happened at Saygus, if it ever gets published. I'm sure it would make for an interesting cautionary tale.
[Saygus V²] vertigo_2_20:
Over a year and a half after cancelling my order and on a hunt for the third new phone since, I suddenly remembered this disaster and decided to check up on it. It's like I never left. All that time and they're still making the same exact claims. I really just wanted to see some progress one way or another, to see that either this was finally determined without question to be a scam or that they'd finally done it. Now I'm wondering if we'll ever know. Part of me wonders if they're really, truly trying to release it and just having a hell of a time, but still pushing onward, and that part of me actually feels for them. But I still think it's just a scam to make interest on other people's money.
[Saygus V²] hdtechk:
Also a year and a half since I got my refund. I'm looking for my 4 phone since that time. They would have to drive to my place of work and give it to me free to except one now. And it's only 22miles.
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
LOL....

And NOKIA are releasing a phone again before these clowns...

"After 24 hours, the Nokia 6 tallies over 250,000 registrations for its January 19th flash sale"

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Afte...tions-for-its-January-19th-flash-sale_id89932
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
Interview with Chad

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Reme...down-with-founder-and-CEO-Chad-Sayers_id90433
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Interesting... I'm always a bit baffled by Chad's interviews. His frankness in this article is a welcome change, but I always wonder why his company doesn't communicate this attitude more clearly to their customers.

A little humility, ownership, and honesty on their Twitter account and update emails would go a long way in helping with their PR problem. Instead, they just spread false optimism and lies, covered up with piles of excuses. Why do they keep making things worse for themselves?
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Eleven letters.

P.O.N.Z.I. S.C.H.E.M.E.

"The Snapdragon 801, as solid a CPU from Qualcomm as it is, is basically at the end of its life. Saygus promises a lofty, free exchange for V-Squared owners. Sometime after the current-spec model is released, those that pre-ordered will be able to trade in their V-Squared for a new device with beefier specs, namely a Snapdragon 820 CPU (same device, upgraded components)."

What an absolutely

insane

comical joke.

I still remember way back when where Saygus was all upset because they didn't think KickStarter or IndieGoGo or whatever it was was under a requirement to refund money. They thought "buyers" were just giving them free money without any liability.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Yeah, I don't see how that will ever happen... I don't think Saygus has the competence or the money to be able to give away free phones with a completely new chip that they have no experience with. This company's promises always smell strongly of the old saying, "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is."
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
At this point, I don't see how these people aren't in prison yet. They've stolen millions.
[Saygus V²] phone sound 2:
How is Saygus still in business?

When faced with another V2 delay back on May 21, 2015 Saygus tweeted "We are smartphone specialists who have launched many phones." It appears that all they have launched are refunds (with some delayed for months, according to posts). The handful of orders that remain can not possibly save this project.
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
It'd only make sense of it was an investment scam, not a retail scam.

That they missed their latest Christmas deadline didn't surprise anyone.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
it's been~ 2 months since that fellow in germany updated his saygus site so i guess this adventure is finally over for him also.
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
Uhhh from what I can tell, those aren't going over 4G, as there is no connection type indicator in the status bar.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Nice guess, but the main reason for my site being "outdated" is the lack of noteworthy news and the fact that I'm currently having exams.

Sorry BTW for not mentioning that the VSQUARED is now being able to do Dual-SIM calls. Totally missed that! What an awesome video...

AFAIK Saygus is currently getting ready for MWC in Barcelona, but I don't know if they have new devices to show or just the ones from January 2017.
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
Most likely just the ones from 2015
[Saygus V²] MoveAlong77:
Wow, don't know what made me think about revisiting this thread, but no surprise to see that these scammers never shipped anything. And, seems like they're still spewing their bull****? I got my refund after the very first delay announcement and was glad I did. I feel sorry for anyone gullible enough to still be sticking around!
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
i read that saygus did a tweet that we should all stay tuned for big news on fcc certification. do not hold your breath, though. care to wager a guess on what the big news is? my guess is they have resubmitted phone and just need to wait to hear back from fcc. same thing they did last year.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Looks like they did! Who knows? I get the feeling they are actually going to release the phone soon, but I'm expecting it to be a dumpster fire of bugs, shipping delays, and broken promises. You know, the usual Saygus stuff.

What would be sad is if it actually turned out to be a good phone, because at this point, I don't think ANYONE who didn't hold on to their preorder would buy their phone.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Android Police posted a nice analysis on Saygus' story so far: http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...grade-because-who-even-believes-this-anymore/
[Saygus V²] phone sound 2:
More nonsense from Saygus...!

Back in early March 2017, Saygus said their VP of sales ran LG's sales for 9 years (sales of what)? Why would a

person leave a world class company and end up at a flakey failed company who manufactures nothing, and has nothing to sell (except years of false promises)?
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
Blah blah FCC delays blah blah WiHD is a thing blah blah
[Saygus V²] smohanv:
Has this ever been shipped yet. I requested refund and it took several in order to get my refund.
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
Don't hold your breath - they haven't even posted on twitter since June 8.....

Total losers. :p:p
[Saygus V²] smohanv:
Worst precedent. This will make the crowd wanting to encourage new products to think weather it is worth helping on crowd funding.

Saygus has set a worst example.