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[Saygus V²] minatour44:
finally gave up :(

I have also now requested a refund yesterday, will update once funds returned. status currently on hold, was told 2 weeks, I have lost absolute confidence that they will deliver and especially how to deal with problems (ie sending it back for repairs), i have compromised with an Xperia Z2 which fits most of my current needs with the stereo speakers, sd, fully rainproof :) and 1080p 5.2 screen, the battery life appears pretty good also, and I got it for £219, incidentally it has a feature not on the v2 that i am aware of, it came with noise cancelling headphones (mic in them, Z2 does the processing), I like Sony's attention to detail (notification light, smart connect etc.), and 12 months local uk warranty

Hopefully the V2 comes out and if its as good as it sounds i will try to purchase next year locally

good luck to all with their decisions on whether to hang on or quit, I must admit to some sadness but also a relief from wondering constantly what was happening, I was almost getting OCD checking these forums, facebook, twitter,. i even setup an account with changedetection.com to monitor saygus.com , enough said.
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
What ever happened to coloured back covers that were introduced?

http://www2.marketwire.com/mw/frame_mw?attachid=2775220
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
What ever happened to the phone that was introduced?
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
It is e-vapor-rated? :crying:
[Saygus V²] Thraxzzz:
I thought the fingerprint sensor will be like the ones on s6 or iPhone 6, I was wrong. Bye saygus
[Saygus V²] Zinguy:
More importantly, what ever happened to the SQGL headphones?
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Chinese factory making video of it in this very moment.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/623669143187763200

Wow! I was thinking that only RF part doesn't work, but now we see that almost NOTHING works in this "phone". It simply doesn't exist... What a shame...
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Twitter bot is back to provide more lies and excuses.
[Saygus V²] field893:
Yes, as you say "lies and excuses " How do you know ? , little respect for the thousands of people who ordered this phone , ok , thanks
[Saygus V²] :
I don't see any disrespect shown to anyone here with that quote.... Only for Saygus.... Which isn't out of line under the circumstances. :good:

It's implying that Saygus is just telling people what they want to hear. Which may very well be.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
I just read the posts and there is nothing else: no information, no shipping date, no promised videos of working phone. NOTHING. Only lies (about videos, working phone, etc.) and excuses ("we are working on things"). So far we saw only some gaming console prototypes from SayGus, but not the product that

You're most welcome. :good:

BTW, you're little bit wrong about "thousands of people who ordered this phone" - there are maximum 1911 people who actually ordered it and from this number we must deduct all those who has requested refunds during past 36 days. So there is definately not thousands of people - only thousand+.
[Saygus V²] phixeus:
Speaking of which, I have now had to interact with Saygus about a dozen times. Despite their insistence that the refund would only take a week, I'm now going into week 4 of my wait.
[Saygus V²] ryanwoods10:
If the One +2 looks like a good alternative i'll be getting a refund that day. Any longer than 15 day refunds i'll be filing a dispute with credit card company, they'll soon issue refunds then.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
File for a charge back from the beginning. . You will get the delay interest as well next day.
[Saygus V²] ryan49ryan:
Another email from Saygus was just sent out, not much in terms of new information though.

Email Quote-

Dear Friend:

Here's the latest at Saygus!

Indiegogo Campaign

As you know, earlier this year, we launched an early adopter pre-registration orders for the V SQUARED on the Saygus.com website. Looking towards future growth, we've decided to work with Indiegogo to continue offering the V SQUARED to an amazing community of technology early adopters and gain additional exposure. Through Indiegogo we have received scores of requests from carriers, reporters and analysts for more details and samples of the V SQAURED. We're humbled by the growing enthusiasm we've received from super fans, and can't wait to get these phones in your hands.

THE SAYGUS V SQUARED HIT ITS $1 MILLION INDIEGOGO GOAL IN JUST 2 DAYS!

On June 19, Saygus hit the $1 million mark and the final hardware version of the VSQUARED arrived in Los Angeles that week for the big E3 (Electronic Entertainment Expo) electronic gaming show... and the phone is AMAZING!

TWO DAYS LEFT! There are only two days left in our Indiegogo campaign.

Please tell your tell your friends, family and associates about the world's most advanced smartphone and send them to the Saygus Indiegogo webpage to order a V SQUARED NOW!

You can donate a few bucks to the campaign, get a shirt to show support for the innovative creativity of Saygus, the American Smartphone Dream Team or order a V SQUARED to show that you are supporting a better mobile world for all of us!

REMINDER: This is an opportunity to get the V SQUARED at $650 US Dollars before it gets to the carriers at a higher price!

Here the link to our Indiegogo campaign:

http://igg.me/at/saygus

Here are some videos about the campaign and the V SQUARED:

The V SQUARED 1 Min Teaser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Yi8FVTeh0

Media Rock Stars Review of the V SQUARED: https://youtu.be/N8ngpJqe2ko

Indiegogo Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBqYWCEVOIc

Behind the Scenes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfc-uxsC7bM

Founder's Vision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCvy9pG1HY8

Inside The V SQUARED: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7o_2y76P-E

V SQUARED Features Demonstrated:

Wireless charging: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VFu2WalCQ4

Battery Life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n3W3_QTeeo

Dual Boot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjZuFBsMCac

Storage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDgotIo0IUg

Finger Print Access: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGHmRDR_Ioc

USB 3.0 Type C: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpd6NGBHt0M

3D Audio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO-ei-sZ1O8

First Look 4k Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6fDZkmMvNs

E3 Gamers Conference:

Saygus was at the E3 Gamers Conference to show gamers the great features of the V SQUARED. Their enthusiasm for the V SQUARED was amazing. We appreciate their support and interest in our phone.

Here are a couple videos from E3:

BlackNerd Game Play: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrGt9qIKf6U

First Twitter Response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ggxn4Li99I

Get ready for the V SQUARED! The world's most advanced smartphone!

The Saygus Team
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Lies, misleading, miscalculations - everything as usual. And the bottom line also as usual - BRING US MORE OF YOUR MONEY! NOW! :mad:
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
I have not received that email (not that it really matters), I still have my pre order.
[Saygus V²] billybob4:
Whoo hoo !!!!!

Saygus started a refund of $549.00

However, I still have a wait by the looks of things :(

This email is to confirm that your refund has been issued by Saygus. It can take up to 10 days for the funds to appear on your statement.
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Mines almost 3 weeks now...prepare to have to fight to get your money back...
[Saygus V²] UnicornKaz:
Darn SAYGUS !!:mad::mad::mad:

WTF does that email show us ???

Nothing!!!! except the fact how incompetence they are !!

They have the balls to collect all old information ( if you can call it that ) and sent them out JUST TO GATHER MORE AD/SALES...ETC

I guess this is the result of the new PR/Advertising team they'd mentioned ? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

They are "fishing" for new suckers ...You'd be surprise at how many who only heard about it recently and all bet in on Saygus...etc

For every 1 of us pissed/refund customer ....there will be 10 new suckers willing to come on board ( I was 1 of them but I've seen the light...lol :cyclops:)

Pissed !!... filed for refund TODAY ( reply ticket said a week...we'll see...doubtful :mad:

...I'd gave them a chance before when I'd cancelled May/20( after the promised may delayed )... but closed my refund ticket when communication improved a little.

This email yesterday was the FINAL straw !!! ( ORDER # xxx ...I'm in the hundred, very early from the beginning)
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Yes, you have clearly posted your opinion. No need to be a broken record about it ;)
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
As someone who actually works financial crimes for a living, and a passionate consumer about tech, I think it relevant to make consumers aware. Because I see thousands of posts about this phone alone on this thread, newer folks may not be as aware of the history here (who's going to read all the prior pages?). Consumers really should learn how to protect themselves here.
[Saygus V²] Soltkemecsei:
Tony, if you - again - happen to take it as a fact, then why not shut the fck down this topic to protect your forum users?

If you do not take it as a fact, then why not act as a moderator, like how it was promised several times?
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
I am a Moderator, but not of this section.

The ,moderators of this section are well aware of what goes on here. They will do what is necessary when such a time arrises.

Should this thread be closed, assuredly another would take its place. No need to have this happen. This is most likely staying open for those that wish to vent, to have a place to do so.
[Saygus V²] Soltkemecsei:
It is irritating that the mods continuously ask to post respectfully, but when repeatedly those who share your opinion call everyone else a complete tool, then you cynically agree, and then state that you are not the moderator of this specific section.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
OK then.

You have a good day sir
[Saygus V²] :
Who said what now? :silly:

Seriously.... I am a mod in this section. Let's not take frustration with Saygus out on each other. Good idea?

:good:
[Saygus V²] :
We mods get called all sorts of mean stuff around here.... Many times for what you are suggesting. Yes, this thread could be closed, and has been, temporarily. But another will surely pop up. Why not let's just be adult here? People can vent, tell their experiences and opinions with Saygus........but.... ...yes, respect each other in the process.

I see no reason to turn on each other... No one here runs Saygus. So let's keep the frustration focused where it should be.

No, the thread is not closed. Why? It's still a worthy discussion... No?

:good:
[Saygus V²] Soltkemecsei:
The thread is titled "Saygus V2".

For you, the mods it is fine if everyone who has a Saygus V2 preorder is called a complete tool (or a consumer robot, a zombie etc.)

It is just what a worthy, respectful discussion means for you. Not only you accept this derogating speech, but even support and incite it.

When the offended people ask not to treat opinions and theories as 100% facts, and please respect each other, then suddenly you see it is not a discussion anymore, but a frustrated bickering, and the thread is suspended.

Everyone makes mistakes. Some fail to deliver a phone in time, some simply cannot be respectful, some cannot be objective enough to moderate, and some do not realize when to leave a conversation.

I now correct mine. Bye.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
I, personally, have no doubts that SayGus is lying to us all the time till this very moment. I just don't understand the reason for this. Do they trying to disguise their product and fool the competition? Useless - they couldn't be real threat to anybody, not to the major industry players, not to the minor ones. Do they trying to scam the customers? Also somewhat unlikely - we are talking about not very big amount of money which is not enough even for paying salaries and renting the company's office. Does it such high level of incompetence? So far they are holding Guinness Record for this in both categories - high level and very long time staying at this high level. If this is only the incompetence issue, its leads me to conculsion that they're simply the fools and as such they are unable to release any working product at all. Did I missed some other possibility for such stupid behaviour? Remember, so far we saw no single proof that this phone exists!
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Since February and till today Saygus has only $1.2 million in hand. ONLY 1.2 M.

How can they stand in this business? (I just did not count the refund requestsin 40 days, Indiegogo commission, PayPal & Credit card fees, shipping and VAT costs). Last month my friend installed a gas station in Orlando for almost $700K. With million dollar, I can not even buy a good house in London, NYC or LA.

But Seriously, How could they pay operation costs came from rent, employees salaries, manufacturing, communications, travel and events costs in LA/ Barcelona/ Vegas/ Hanover, marketing, and the huge after sale services related to the worldwide warranty centers and offices?. Even the giant phone manufacturers could not release any cellphone in everywhere simultaneously. Someone might says ''They will start with loss but they can generate profit later''. BUT, how would Saygus be able to keep a good selling margin for V2 after they ship it (this Christmas or next year). V2 is gonna be outdated at that time and consumers will find many greater options to choose.

All in all, I highly doubt they can success in this business if they really wanted to be in, but I honestly don't know what is their real intention from this long campaign.

Any clue?
[Saygus V²] billybob4:
Well I thought that this was fixed previously (I've seen the message before on this thread)

We have processed your refund and it’s on its way back onto the card you made your payment with. Our system only let us do a couple but we have fixed that error now. We appreciate your patience during this process.

We will also remove you from our customer list so you don’t receive future customer emails. If you would still like to receive emails about Saygus and the V SQUARED – please reply back with which email you would like us to add to that list.

If they can't fix a card payment system problem f**k knows how they expect to fix any phone issues :D.

Good luck all of you that are left holding on, I've a feeling you'll need it.
[Saygus V²] TheYoungLord:
A full month passed but I finally received my refund. Relieved to say the least!

Time for me to throw some money at Motorola I reckon
[Saygus V²] 008freak:
Also got my refund today. I went out and got a used HTC one M8 to hold me over until the later phones come out this year.
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
For everyone that received a refund. How long before did you receive the email that your refund was processing?
[Saygus V²] crazedgod:
One+2

Signed up for an one+2 invite less than 12 hours after it opened and it's already close to 53k. Assuming 25% actually end up buying this phone, it's still at least as much as Saygus has managed in 5 months.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
It is very easy to sell what actually exists and what one has in hand (stock, plant etc.). But it is very difficult to sell almost two thousands of non-existiting nothing - it requires special talent. And Saygus has it! :good:
[Saygus V²] vladser:
Finally got a refund, it took 3 weeks, i'm happy, the only regret is not requested earlier
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Still waiting on mine. Does anyone know what typically happens if you get a refund to an old debit card? My bank sent me a new one but I made the purchase on the original one. Will it go to my account automatically or will i have to resolve this issue?
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
I would assume that you would have to notify Saygus of your card changes.
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Well in that case i am screwed because there is no way to get in contact with them...
[Saygus V²] phixeus:
It is now 25 days since I requested my refund for 2 phones. I would like my $1100 or so back now, please.

I have interacted with Saygus via a support ticket about 6 or 7 times. Now when I go back to check the status of the ticket that was supposed to have been elevated I see the following:

"Oops! That page can’t be found.

It looks like nothing was found at this location. Maybe try to use a search?"

I created a new ticket to address my deleted/elevated ticket to address my 3-4 week wait for a refund. Load of fun. Thanks Saygus, you guys are the best.
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Same. It looks like they are moving to a new support ticket system. If you click on the support tab it takes you to a new page.
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
That's quite a step away from what I would have expected. If it isn't the V², then I would have gotten the Galaxy S5 since the functions are similar enough to what I want in a smartphone. When I think of the M8, the only thing I can think of that has going for it is the speakers and that expandable storage.
[Saygus V²] 008freak:
Well I'm an old HTC fanboy to be honest, the speakers are actually higher on my list than most people. The water-proofing would have been nice, but I guess that's why I got one used so I can see what the phones later this year will bring. If not, I prob would have gotten the z3 or z3c. I guess the appeal of the V2 for me was just a 2015 phone that wasn't using the SD810, lol (And not 5.5", wtf too big). Not much of a power user, but I like having the options.

Before I go too far off-topic. Yeah, the lack of communication past couple weeks again doesn't bode well. That latest update shows they still have LOTS to finish, can they even get carrier cert without a finished phone? I feel bad for the Indiegogo backers. Do they have the refund option (I know you lose your money regardless normally for Indiegogo, but maybe Saygus will allow it?)
[Saygus V²] kboya:
I stopped following this thread a while back when it was all a self defeating, but thought I'd update those awaiting a refund. I applied for one 16th July, got the stock reply, heard nothing for a week, wrote a stronger reply implying the use of legal/financial companies. Within 8 hours I received a separate email with the 10 days window. The refund was applied to my card same day, but took a couple of days to show. Bizarrely, saygus have sent me a ticket reply today saying I should expect it in the next 10days... Seems they have no idea who has been refunded.

It's a sorry situation for such a promising product. I hope it sees the light of day. Good luck to the waiters and the bailers.
[Saygus V²] billybob4:
I applied on the 7th July and it appeared on my card on the 27th
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Can anyone else comment on how long it took from the refund email to the money being back in your account?
[Saygus V²] billybob4:
If you mean the one that has 'Saygus started a refund of $549.00' in it

I got the email on the 22nd, the money was back on my card on the 27th. This did span a weekend, so 2 days were non working ones.

Cheers.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Well, since the OnePlus 2 doesn't have NFC, and the new Moto X is 5.7 freaking inches across I guess I'm still hanging in there for this phone. I figure the money is gone for months now, so I don't really miss it. My next hope is the 2015 Nexus 5. I hope they stick with the size and just update the specs.
[Saygus V²] AdamColligan:
Refund time update

Ticket created 15th of July | cash went back on card 25th of July.
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
If only it had NFC... Either nexus is going to end up being my phone
[Saygus V²] Jkteam:
So my patience is slowly going away

Since the end of the hype of the e3 i didn't follow much of what was going on

Started again last week and only realized for the first time i also didn't receive the mass mail

I signed up for oneplus2. not the best specs but for the price whatever.

I will still wait and if it comes that o get an invite for oneplus2 first i willl cancel.

i still hope deep inside the v2 will come first
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
That's exactly my thoughts. :D

I'm still missing a good competitor, since my recent phone starts to struggle with some microphone issues now. Anyway I'm still in the game! :)

For all of you, who are still hanging in:

I've had another phone call today. A bunch of V²'s with the updated hardware and the new PCB layout are expected to arrive in Utah by the end of next week. All issues with Quicklogic's sunlight viewability chip have been resolved. The Issues with Multi-boot, noise cancellation and IPX7 haven't been finally resolved yet.

If anyone has wondered, why I've been very quiet during the last weeks here: This thread has just been an itself repeating mess and I felt unworthy to contribute to it.

Cheers!

Andreas
[Saygus V²] gamingforfact:
I finally cracked. I placed my refund request on July 8th and it posted in my bank account today.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
Thanks again Andreas the saviour ;)
[Saygus V²] limpopo:
Yeah, and the video is in Italian, not Spanish.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I'm in a tech holding pattern. I'm waiting till early to mid April (estimate) for the V2 and some time in may for my Jolla tablet... Ugh
[Saygus V²] mastewman:
Take a look at this article, is it saying that the V2 has the new universal micro USB connector? http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/fea...b-connector-you-will-love-646974?site=classic
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
I don't think that's what it's saying. I read each topic as separate from one another. Self driving cars, saygus v2, wind breaker thing, and the usb connector. None are related unless I missed something?
[Saygus V²] mastewman:
I know it was kind a hard to follow but the articles title made me believe it might be... That would be nice little surprise...
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
View attachment 3189840

A look at the final product.. Photo showing the clean look of the product under the Kevlar back cover..
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
It looks nice. One of the videos above had nice shots of it. I really wish someone would take pictures and show the dinner print scanner in action. I don't have high hopes for it, but I'm really curious.
[Saygus V²] QuantifyThis:
I can't quite tell, but do you have to remove the battery to get a micro sd in/out? I was wondering if it would be possible to swap in/out a micro sd while the phone is running.
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
this others review in mwc 2015 thing goes up http://www.digitallife.gr/saygus-v2-hands-pics-shostoppers-mwc-2015

and this with clear pictuers http://android.hdblog.it/2015/03/01/Saygus-V2-la-video-anteprima-di-HDblogit/
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
This time in Russian :)
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
Man I wonder if/when anything in English will roll out..
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
another video with clear view http://android.hdblog.it/2015/03/01/Saygus-V2-la-video-anteprima-di-HDblogit/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAJFf0uEtSU#t=13
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Weird article. Starting with "missleading headline" explained. And it is storrage (320gb being possible, not incorporated). Continues with Snapdragon 810, and doesn't mention usb (which is in headline)
[Saygus V²] Soltkemecsei:
Or in whatever languge, it's all greek to you. ;)
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Jesus, these articles are confusing. I speak no Italian but the second one says: "Saygus V2 è disponibile per l'acquisto da qualche settimana solo in America al prezzo di 599$, certamente elevato, ma immaginabile vista la spaventosa scheda tecnica.", which means (I believe): Saygus V2 is avialable for purchase in a few weeks ONLY IN AMERICA for the price of 599$, certainly high...blah, blah... so they will delay shipping to other countries?! Or "only in America" stands for the price?
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
New Article as of an hour ago about Barcelona MWC. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/saygus-takes-saygus-v2-v-070100260.html
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Saygus finally post a update via twitter...

See photo.. View attachment 3190442

What do you think?
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
View attachment 3190443

Royal visit to Sayus Booth..