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[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/saygus-v-squared-smartphone-coming,31280.html

More news inbound from Tom's Hardware. It confirms a lot about what we know through their Twitter feed regarding plans for the newer chip and the confirmation of Marshmallow shipping with March.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
... and that they title the article as
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
https://www.androidpit.de/saygus-v2-test

is in German.

But look at the picture the old device and the newer one. the new one seems a bit taller/bigger.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Better look at the upper picture with the title on it - this huge gap between front bezel and side of the phone is terrible.

BTW - I don't know regarding Foxconn, but I'll check with our corporate team if we going to produce Saygus phone or it is just another Saylies.
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
It makes you wonder about the popularity of the Saygus V², when Xiaomi has received 16 MILLION pre-orders for the Mi-5.....

https://twitter.com/dead_cell/status/704492405798481923
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Quite an apt twitter handle for Saygus, wouldn't you say? :)

But the difference is that Xiaomi has a proven ability to produce promised phones; Saygus has completely the opposite record. Also, I'm pretty sure Xiaomi isn't taking people's money ahead of time and using it to crowdfund their engineering and manufacturing (while still mislabeling it as a "preorder")--at least I hope they aren't!
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
I don't know regarding Foxconn, but I've checked with our corporate team (I'm working at Flextronics) - no one aware of customer named Saygus so I think that most probably it is another lie.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Interesting...

FLEXTRONICS NEWS. :silly:

just sayin'
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
It is link to the same rumors page on Tom's Hardware. I don't have internal confirmation for these rumors, but will keep digging. It so tiny customer, so probably nobody ever remember it's name :D ;): :cyclops:
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
The article regarding Donald Trump's push for US-manufactured iphones reminded me that Saygus is a US-centric company and that they had manufacturing issues that caused the delay. Not so much about Saygus, but it makes me believe that getting iphones made in China isn't so greedy of Apple, but realistic of logistics. Sucks for Saygus, but it makes me less reluctant about buying Apple products in the future if that's the case. I'm invested in the "Made in USA" mantra of goods but I can appreciate logistics where it keeps the gravy train moving.
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
No, it's greed. Don't kid yourself. 2015

alone

they had net income of $60,000,000,000. That's after every single expense was paid for the year.

They can afford to build phones in the U.S., they just choose not to because money is more important. Whatever they have set up in China can be as easily set up in the U.S. Saygus isn't having logistics issues, they're having offshore account issues.
[Saygus V²] hypoPLAsm:
No. It's not greed. It's basic economics. Please make yourself familiar with the concept of opportunity costs.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Second week of March is over - another FCC certification promise is broken. SayLies as usual.
[Saygus V²] mklpickle:
I'm very happy with my galaxy s7 I bought with my v2 refund money!
[Saygus V²] svtcontour:
I'm just curious if I'll ever get it now. And if I do if it will live up to the hype. If there is ever a V3 we get it at 1/2 off :p
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
What I can tell for sure is that this half price off will be with us for sure - for V3, V4, V5 and so on. :D
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Here first picture of V3 with 1/2 off

[IMG="Saygus V3"]http://www.tecnozoom.it/immagini/8/161438/mobiblu-cube-3-1q.jpg[/IMG]
[Saygus V²] crazedgod:
V2 latest pics

Here's the latest pictures of the V2. Love the deep blue colour :p

[IMG="V2"]http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xd/492493829.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=62CA815BFB1CE480458521AA3797DB5F86871D979DBBA836164569ECA11EBBDC71529919A1F49FD0[/IMG]
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Wow! So they finally upgraded it with Snapdragon 810???
[Saygus V²] crazedgod:
and here i was hoping for the 820... maybe it's just me, I just expect way too much for $550...
[Saygus V²] MikeyMike01:
China is good at manufacturing because China does the manufacturing.

If Apple (or someone else of sufficient resources and personnel) opened a huge iPhone factory and offered the jobs and training necessary for it, they would have little trouble.

The real obstacle to this is tax loopholes and the fact that factory jobs just aren't desirable.
[Saygus V²] zelendel:
It is all about money man. Why pay an American $25 an hour to do something when you can pay someone in China 2 an hour to do it.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
i've read a few stories about how terrible the foxconn factory experience is for iphone workers. they live in barracks and work a lot of hours. conditions that the u.s. govt would most likely have issues with not to mention u.s. workers.
[Saygus V²] zelendel:
Oh yeah China is known for having issues. Human rights would be all over it.

There was even a story where one of the people at the apple plant jumped out a window and committed suicide because the conditions were so bad.
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
yeah but the saygus v2 is still not available
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
I wish I was in Germany right now. I would've gone to CeBIT 2016 and have a look at the phone myself. I don't know many German tech outlets so wouldn't know which ones to tune into regarding coverage.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
What for? To get new portion of SayLies? It will continue forever, like last promise to get FCC cert second week of March. It is third week just coming to the end and still no FCC cert. So Andreas will go to their booth, will receive new fresh portion of relaxing and promising lies and will pass it to all of us so we could continue to dream about V2, V3 and so on.
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
To funny.

I was wondering why nobody talks about Saygus from CEBIT. Maybe same story like 2015. But I google it. I found one interesting article.

http://www.teltarif.de/saygus-v2-smartphone-handson-cebit/news/59066.html

its in German. There you can read at the last part of the article the phone is expected in MAY ;) wow saygus you are f..... awesome with lies and the relaxed company of the world. u earned so much ****storm and you go further your way. u have my respect for that. but for nothing more.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
One of the funniest things in this arcticle are old pictures of V2.
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
Mistake of me, the article is from 18.03.2015
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
Shouldn't matter too much - same information will probably apply.....
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Here some interesting info - V2 will cost 450$.

http://ithardware.pl/aktualnosci/ce...iutancki_smartfon_z_niezl_specyfikacj-66.html

If this is true then it looks like all preorders and Indi backers are screwed big time.
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
I really really believe that the $450 is a misprint of some sort. I can't imagine that Saygus got such a good deal with their manufacturers that they're able to knock off $200. Though I don't think that Saygus is above the sunk-cost fallacy either. $650 seems more true since that's always been the quoted price. Good pictures in the article though! Definitely of the updated engineering sample posted on twitter a few weeks back.
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
you can see still too large gap witdth between adjacent parts. look at the picture with the USB C and the audio jack.
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
No news? No Updates, the march goes to end and the certification is not there and so on. again they didnt hold their words. SAYGUS did you believe yourself? No Twitter messages nothing.
[Saygus V²] Darkside14:
I'm glad that I've got my refund months ago, now I'm enjoying my lovely LG V10 and I'm happy with it, what have you done saygus...
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Even Andreas in his blog kind of hopeless, not enthusiastic at all. No light at the end of the tunnel. I'm looking forward for reviews of Xiaomi Mi5 and Sony Xperia XA, best alternatives for me.
[Saygus V²] Makavelli-:
It seems that we will get another delay... Have already spoken (written) with Andreas on this, but i will not anticipate him, so he will give us an update on his page soon. Think also that from Saygus itself comes nothing, maybe some '' we are under evaluation'' or ' something else. Hope only that they come back to us with some good news.

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[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
shame on saygus that andreas try to keep the flag up and the company does not care about the customer. ur business wont work like that. it wont sayer it woooonnnnttt.
[Saygus V²] Makavelli-:
Yup, agree. It is really embrassing for saygus but if you sayd, Andreas keep the flag up and try to make the best out of this Redicioulus situation [emoji41]

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[Saygus V²] aspid667:
I'm not sure that this IS a business... It looks like something completely different.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
I've seen those devices last week at CeBIT 2016 in Hannover and the answer to this is very simple:

These prototypes are missing screws, so they're looking a little bit "blown up" and got gaps between the single parts. ;)

I'm not sure, what made them so confident that they will ship the devices until the end of the month, but right now it doesn't seem realistic.

The fully working units with the final built quality have been made last week and those will be used for the certifications and final testing.

Yes, I am aware that we had this state already. Anyway, I'll keep you posted.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
When? And who is the manufacturing partner?
[Saygus V²] bob90210:
That's good to hear that the phone is in the final build stages and will be sent for certifications.

The screws on the other hand has some issues. The previous engineering samples did not pass their internal testing. Saygus switched to a different screw ODM and manufacturer partner but still did not have the quality that Saygus expected. So Saygus has hired new screw designers and pulled in all the screws design in house. Look for industry leading screws in Q1 (year not specified).
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
Hmm final product is now ready for certification. Sorry I didn´t believe it. Because Saygus would present it on twitter. But until now nothing. No Video of final product or something else. This would calm down some customers.

Andreas maybe they say it to you. When I understand it correctly, you didnt see it, because they was not fast enough to take it to CEBIT.

Sorry Saygus try to play the same game. They lie and lie, and its like the story about pinocchio. If they really say the truth, no one belive them. Much easier if they proof it and show us the pictures and a video.
[Saygus V²] alexanseris:
I neither trust Saygus, nor Andreas... Two sides of the same coin.

Since first day, false info and lies flowed and continued over and over and over SHAMELESSLY
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
Hmm I am not sure if Andreas have only the bad situation to receive false informations from Saygus and delivered to us. Or if he is part of the SayLies machinery . What ever its sad how the company act.
[Saygus V²] Huey:
That is your choice, do we really need to know about it?

In that one is the manufacturer and one is a paying customer. The coin is the phone.

And you? You are stirring up trouble and spreading ugly statements yourself. Once again.

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I very much doubt anything but the receipt of the phone (or a requested refund) would calm down customers now. I think Saygus did the only thing they could at this moment - and that is to say nothing.

Or SayNothing as some folk might morph it ;)
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Saygus is doing great with screws - it screwed so many customers, it screwed it's own products several times. Saygus is true screwing specialist.
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
Interesting. I would be happy if they're able to design a product that uses no adhesives in its design/production. I know people take lightly the situation with screws, but this is actually a big deal if the joining-method is poor quality. If the screws used are of poor enough quality that it strips the inlets when dropped then your product falls apart as that's essentially total failure from a design perspective. Things like the camera module need to be held tightly for mechanical OIS to work. The speakers need to be held tightly in order to deliver precise sound as well as having a good design to handle the dynamic loading conditions from the speakers under service loads. You can side step all this by using less screws, using more adhesives, and possibly use unibody design principles to achieve stability, but then you end up having phones like Apple, LG, Sony, and so on where the majority of their construction is just less screws, more glue.

We can have a discussion between which form of joining is preferable, but I'm a mechanical guy so I'm biased toward mechanical solutions and abhor using adhesives if I can help it. All the more if your design involves heat transfer. If Saygus' phone can emulate the Galaxy S4's modular construction then I would be very happy to know they're trying for that design. Too bad Saygus' communication sucks because I would love to engage with one of their engineers on this topic.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Went through this http://dev.erhard.cc/saygusV2/qanda_cebit2016 - total disaster...

Remember June 2015, "weeks not months"? These March 2016 answers are very much the same. This phone won't be released ever.

Preordered Mi5 Pro - 128GB, Snap 820, Dual SIM, less than 500$.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
saygus.com FAQ seems to have not changed much and as a result states that indiegogo phones are expected to ship in the fall of this year. the pre-order phones before that. the stuff on the german site is speculation at best basically just bull. but i guess if saygus produces 20 phones or so the german dude probably has locked in the best chance of getting one.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
From Indiegogo:
[Saygus V²] Darkside14:
Even if I'm out of this and have been refunded. I've got that mail too and I have a lot of laugh
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
its a dream phone (you will see it only in your dreams)
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
http://www.areamobile.de/news/37515-preissenkung-yotaphone-2-kostet-nur-noch-299-euro

its an interesting phone, and have the same processor like the future phone saygus v2. and has a nice feature the second e ink display.

And only 299 €
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
seems no one wait anymore for this hyper dyper phone. Saygus what can I say... you lose
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
The Saygus Twitter feed is now discussing the COLOR of the box that the phone is allegedly expected to ship in.

Talk about putting the cart before the horse!
[Saygus V²] crazedgod:
Go Saygus V2 Unicorn & Rainbow Box!!

Saygus is working towards building the best smartphone BOX ever. Even the iPhone BOX wasn't built in a day.

It's not Saygus's fault that the cardboard manufacturer for the boxes did not meet standards acceptable for the best smartphone BOX ever. Saygus's 1st priority has always been the satisfaction of their customers and are not willing to compromise on on quality. Instead of being so negative I think you should appreciate the effort the team's been putting in to get the box "just right". It isn't easy to make sure that the box is not just a flat piece of cardboard and that the lid fits the box. While options like Choc/Black, Choc/Gold, White/Gold, Black/Gold, Tan/Black & Mocha/Black may not be important to you but it's the most important feature I look for when I buy a phone and would appreciate if you weren't so anti-Saygus even when they've always tried to keep their word!!!!
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
The box has a feature. After you take out your phone, the box........ you will put in a cupboard and never use it again. only if you sell the phone.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
I used to keep the accessories which are not frequently used in the box.Not exclusively for the purpose of reselling.
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
seriously does someone still wait for this super duper awesome future phone?
[Saygus V²] Makavelli-:
yup, I am still waiting for this super duper mega phone, but the funny thing is i had already 3 different smartphones, since then i have ordered the V" :D

Well, let's wait further and look where it's going.:silly:
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
U really believe, that you will hold it in your hands???
[Saygus V²] Makavelli-:
yes, definetely! The question is only when!

My luck is only, that i currently not necessarily need a new phone, but nevertheless it would be really cool if i had it already in my hands. (actually already last year)

Only a big shame about the money i have paid...
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
Not big shamed about the money you paid. Big shamed about the Saygus. They always broke his promises. Normally the phone was already build last year. Then only a FCC have to make. Now seems like, they just start to build the phone......or testing the hardware and so on.

the last promise, the FCC for the phone will be ready last Friday... but again no comment about this on twitter or somewhere......
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Which phone are you talking about? :( SayGus isn't phone maker, it is top specialist in making empty promises and scewing its customers. Sometimes they are making t-shirts and some various colors empty boxes just for change. And their most important invention and famous product is Perpetuum (mob)Lie - true state of art masterpiece.
[Saygus V²] shaxs:
Y'all are crazy. IF this phone ever gets released, it will suck and will never get the support it needs. Good luck on the overpriced, outdated phone.
[Saygus V²] Makavelli-:
Unfortunately you are right, noboby knows how the Support will be and the phone really come to be outdated, so the price for it was originally ok (my opinion) but now it is really to much for the currently market. Embarrassing Situation...

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[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
If they have the same quality of support since they produce the phone and inform all customers. Ohhh holy s.... then everyone who have a phone get problems.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
According to recent update from Saygus they are trying to solder software onto PCBA. Amazing technology.
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
Sir

Please know that the V Squared is very near launch. The first production phones are scheduled to arrive at our Utah offices late this week. Promptly, they will be shipped off for FCC and CE certification. The certification only takes day or two, but the timing of the certification is a function of how long the queue is when we submit. The last FCC certification Saygus did took less than two weeks. If you keep an eye on the Saygus Twitter feed, you will see weekly updates until the V Squared ships. All the molds and tooling are complete, and we are about to shift into full production. For immediate notification you can enter your email address at https://www.saygus.com/contact-us/ in the section “Get notified first”.

I am not comfortable giving a date certain, but as soon as I am, you will be notified.

I’d also like you to know that we are preparing a package of goodies that will ship with your V Squared. We feel a debt of gratitude to our early buyers, and wish to thank you for your timeless patience by shipping accessories that you will find useful with your V Squared. Please look for an email on this matter in the next week or two.

Paul at Team Saygus
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
Is it possible to send emails of Saygus updates for early buyers like IGG buyers ?

thx
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
Just for info, I had buy a Samsung S7 completly new for 450 Euro = 510 $

;) what can I say. Saygus V2 a dream phone what is really in our dreams.
[Saygus V²] nutzuTo:
Wow good deal you got there :)
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
Yes Really and today someone would sell me an S7 Edge for 550 completly new with all papers. So I had to denied it. But its still possible to get a S7 for this price I bought it. Important you have to search and take your chance if you find something.
[Saygus V²] slowpok22:
My son wants an S7 for his graduation, be nice if I could find that price, not to get this forum off track but not sure it's even on a track :(
[Saygus V²] Makavelli-:
To be honest, i will never buy a samsung, but the price which you get it is really nice. Hope you get a good Deal and enjoy your choice!

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[Saygus V²] 52smitty:
To date, Saygus is celebrating its success of creating empty boxes and showing off its batteries but as usual ,no concrete updates on release date etc.. on its Twitter feed. Does anyone on this forum have any further insight?
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
No need to disparage at Saygus - after 15 months of hard work they finally produced magnificent battery powered empty boxes which cost just 650$. It is amazing innovation that no one did beforehand!
[Saygus V²] nutzuTo:
If u find a deal like that let me know I'm interested :)
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
Anybody check out their twitter page? They have videos of the 3 different phones. I think the far-right one (black) has a screen cover on it, or maybe that's the light refracting at an odd angle to make it appear so.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
The new leaks are very ugly.
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
I find it from a privat person who get this phone after he make contract extension. So he didnt need it and sell it. We have in Germany "Ebay Kleinanzeigen" its a platform where you can sell what ever you want like in ebay but without auctions.

So I have placed an ad. He offers me his phone for that price. It was with the samsung seal also. and his invoice was only 2 days old. So I have the full guarantee.
[Saygus V²] nutzuTo:
OK so did u find one for me?? :)
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
I deleted my advertise. So I cant say if I get again this offer. But I received more than one. My was the best of all. The other offers was used for couple of days. And if you didnt be in the same region I didnt recommend you to buy something there. I only buy, because I meet the guy. Get the original invoice, see the sealed package of the phone.

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s...rsiegelt-schnell-zugreifen/466013666-173-9438

I look now and the cheapest at the first advertisings was this offer. But more expensive than mine and I didnt would buy it. If Amazon sell this phone for 580 €
[Saygus V²] nutzuTo:
We have the same here they call it kijiji.ca and yes they sell it too but way more expensive than your deal that you got there :(:mad:
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
before it was here kijiji.de too then ebay buy it. but i still put kijiji in the browser to open the page.

I was patient. Before I didnt know if I buy the LG G5 or the S7. I had the S4 before. I liked the LG G5 very much, the only reason why I didnt buy it, was the dimension of the phone. It was to big for me and a little bit of quality. Thats it. For me the LG G5 had more needed skills. IR, possible to change the battery, radio (yes the old feature of radio), and slimport.

But I like now my Samsung too. Lets see in 6 months because of the akku. But I love this quick camera. Awesome.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
These are the same phones that they are taking to every exhibition. These phones will be cut into small pieces and will be sent out to buyers in amazing battery powered empty boxes.
[Saygus V²] 52smitty:
Hey if the Beta testers, like Andreas ,haven't received their units to play with, no one else should even think about seeing a final production model. Bottom line, Chad and Saygus are scam artists. Hopefully most folks have been able to receive a refund.
[Saygus V²] nutzuTo:
I have an s7 too ,i used and LG G4 before and i like somehow the LG and like you I like G5 but what put me off was that is now waterproof ,to wide ,smaller battery plus that module battery after a while get loose,and to come back to saygus,seams like this guy's when they smoke something they go on Twitter and add more bullcrap for brainless ppl,who in the right mind will pay 599$ for a phone that is not real??plus even if is lunched imagine how many bugs and hardware problem will have since is rushed on the market.