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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
The only issue concerning me regarding the Crown is that it is .4mm thick (like typical tempered glass, nothing innovative of the sought) and that the Crown is a separate component after applying the Pure screen protector. The Pure Screen Protector received massive negative feedback even after being revised for the Note 4. Hurts to own a Note 4 it seems. If only if Moshi considered curving the edges of their Moshi iVisor and adding adhesive to the screen area. I'm getting my $45 back, no exceptions now. ;)

If I want to continue using my Defender Series case, I should consider the iCarez, but their customer service doesn't look ready for the task of handling any warranty related issues; thus post-sales is a factor.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
The answer is no it's a hard glass nothing like the flex glass just thought i let you all know.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Looked flexible based on the pictures and video posted. ...so basically, this is a very thin piece of glass susceptible to chipping and shattering if not handled with care? :confused:

Doubtful here.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
If you like I'll throw the phone on the floor and see what happens hehe jk ,for my understanding l looked on ICarez on other phones like note 3 , S5 etc etc and it has over more than a 1,000 on those other phones that this protector last long look it up on other phones and they all got 5 star rate from more than 1,000 people.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
This is great to know, my only remaining concern is customer service. They haven't responded to my inquiry on Amazon yet. :(

How long has iCarez been in the market?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
Not sure I'm at work if you can check amazon see the post review from like older phones like SG3, SG4 etc those post should have dates.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Has there been a video or review showing the Bodyguardz Pure being installed using their "Express Align" tray on the Note 4?

I can see the Crown now with nice halos on both sides of the display from the Pure glass. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
If The Crown produces halo regardless, I'll probably purchase the Moshi again, lol, for use with the Otterbox Commuter Series case.

Otherwise, with the Defender, I'd use the iCarez with the built-in screen protector of the Otterbox Defender Series Case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDAU9XLBanY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARb1dZUq1iY (No Express Align)

Express Align on iPhone 6/6+ though.

I believe they will include express align on the Crown for the Note 4 though as per the comments and responses on their "Crown" video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo4bb7Mr9aQ
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Did you order the iCarez? What you got on there now?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Still have the defective iLoome. I don't intend to order the iCarez yet until I hear a positive response from their so-called Customer Service team regarding how the warranty works, post-sales, and after the return policy is up.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
The more I think about the Crown, the more I think complete FAILURE :p
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
I don't blame you. :p

The Crown solution is analagous to hiding the problems under the rug. They need to completely revise the product from bottom up.

Might as well combine best of the Crown, Moshi, and iCarez together = you'll have the ultimate screen protector, it seems.

Anyone want to start a company with me? :cowboy::p;)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
I bet the crown it's self well work with any screen protector that comes with halo to hide it lol.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED, LOL. Might as well make the Crown a separate product, Alibaba anyone? ;):p:good:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cubfan99:
Just dropped my phone out of my locker at the gym on a slate tile floor. Face first and first caught the corner of the face. Chipped the screen protector and not a mark on the phone and without the moshi going clear out to the edge, the corner would have been seriously messed up. So the Zagg glass would not have protected me nor any of the plastic ones. Sure, it was expensive, but I'm glad I had it.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cubfan99:
And I don't know where people got the idea they wouldn't warranty replace the glass protector bought at the AT&T store. Looks like they're replacing mine once I send a photo of the damage.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] djdig:
Yeah first thing I asked at the AT&T store was about replacement and they said as long as they have it in stock they will give me a new one or order one to my house. Love the iVisor
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
The warranty might be good, but I'm still not convinced about the styling. I'm not normally a form over function kind of a guy, but I'm not sure I'd be happy with an iVisor staring back at me every time I looked at my Note 4.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] djdig:
I honestly don't even see the small strip at the bottom if that is what you are talking about.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Can you post a picture of the damaged screen protector as well as your Note 4. Think I made a bad decision returning my Moshi, haha. :silly:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cubfan99:
Not much to see. Just the corner was a little chipped but saved major damage to the screen and the edge of the case (which only had the tiniest nick). It fell flat on its face and damaged two corners in similar fashion. Relatively certain I would have had a smashed screen without this protector on it.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Better order another one up right away. :silly:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
That is good that it didn't break your screen my daughter's Note 4 she dropped yesterday and the ICarez screen didn't break on her fell on screen in school in the hallway she was lucky nothing broke cause the school has marble floor.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Comes to show how virtually any edge-to-edge screen screen protector will protect you from the worst falls. The BodyGuardz Crown does sure seem aesthetically appealing, but is no way a design marvel, it can be perceived as a straight-up gimmick. The fact that the Moshi stood up to Cubfan99 drop seems convincing that any edge-to-edge glass screen protector will do. And as always, don't forget to apply a case. :good:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
And that was face-down. Be fortunately that wasn't on the side or extreme edge. :p
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Really?! :silly: You can lead the way. :D
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cubfan99:
You'll never catch me using a case... especially on a big phone like this. Only using a screen protector because this one scratches so easily unlike the S5 and every other phone I've used before that.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Bodyguardz Facebook = Crown, maybe by the end of the month :(

I wish somebody would make a tempered glass screen replacement for the Defender case.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
I'm going to leave the caps lock on for this one. :p I'M SURPRISED THE ADHESIVE DIDN'T SHIFT OR MAKE THE GLASS SCREEN PROTECTOR FALL OFF AT THE MOMENT OF HITTING THE FLOOR. Quite Impressive. :cool:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
That's an extremely late release date for a device which is already close to four months old! I don't see the point, lol. :D
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Yes, I'm ready to move on to the Note 5 or Galaxy S6 already ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
I agree, also I feel no difference coming from the Note 2, have we reached a plateau?

Also, Well, read the following article, and you'll be in for a shock, perhaps hyperventilate when you find out where mobile technology is going from here (More Speed),

http://www.arm.com/about/newsroom/arm-sets-new-standard-for-the-premium-mobile-experience.php

And follow this thread, http://xdaforums.com/note-4/general/arm-sets-standard-premium-mobile-t3021181

for ongoing discussion. The future is already here, lol :silly:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
A tempered glass screen protector for the Defender Series case is something for the Otterbox team to take up and embrace upon. It's too bad they are too conservative over their products.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Don't think they ever will.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] TMPOOLE:
works fine with Spigen Neo Hybrid Metal

Figured I'd bite the bullet, order one and see.

Easy install, no bubbles, works perfectly well. No lifting at all. If you are on the fence regarding compatibility, stop worrying.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] djdig:
I have used the Moshi with Spigen Tough Armor, Slim Armor, and Hybrid all of them work 100%
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
*Cough* Time to order one? *Cough* [MENTION=5860476]felloffthetruck[/MENTION]

Ahem, what's the status with BodyGuardz? It's February already and the next big thing is just a few weeks away.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] sefrcoko:
Deja vu here lol, but I am currently using the Otterbox Alpha glass with my Defender. Fits great, even though Otterbox says it wont work with the Defender. Keep in mind that I removed the original plastic screen protector that comes with the Defender. So far I was able to fit the Inskin glass, Moshi iVisor, and Alpha Glass with my Defender. No extra force required to snap the inner case closed either. Maybe it's a quality control issue and some Defender cases are not quite the same as others, but if so then maybe I'm just lucky with mine.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cubfan99:
Ok, so after one drop, I guess it's time to go with a case. I wanted the most minimal possible, and one that did not make a big phone larger. The Samsung case seems perfect, and it's a perfect fit for the Moshi glass. In fact, it probably would be a perfect guide for putting it on in the first place... looks made for the glass. It even covers my corner chips so well that I may not order a replacement until I really break it or scratch it.

Here's the case, and I haven't seen it mentioned here before. It's weird that the blue one is $15 cheaper than the red one.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NP5GQWI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
I have the Black one when i had Moshi it fits perfectly in that Samsung Protective case if that is what your asking.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Same exact setup here, Otterbox Defender (stock screen removed) with the Alpha Glass and everything seems to be fine. :o

I only have a halo at the top of the Alpha glass which the Defender covers up nicely. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
I'm probably the weirdest out of the bunch, keeping the stock screen on, along with a thin glass screen protector by iLoome (living with it for now, no worries).
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] cheryl ndiaye:
i should purchase on amazon ,com . quicker to get it good customer service
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Can't find the link for the Moshi iVisor for the Note 4 on Amazon.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Android300ZX:
I just went to the AT&T store today and picked up the Moshi iVisor glass that covers the screen from edge to edge. The rep stated it just came out 2 days ago (guess they just received it at the store). Anyway, he cleans it and installs it for me. I get home and start using the phone and start hearing sticky noises everytime I touch the middle of the screen.

The screen protector is lifting up in the middle. If you look at the phone from the side you can see the arch where it's lifting in the middle. You can see through to the other side. Damn screen protector is $50 or close to it at that and this happens. I get half off for being an employee but this still sucks. I'm going to take it back and have them either reinstall or refund me. I'll just stick with the other screen protector I had that didn't cover it from edge to edge but at least stuck to it.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Returned my Moshi also, Nothing but problems.

No Moshi, No cry :p
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
An arch is seen in the middle because the Moshi doesn't have any adhesive for the actual screen area, just the sides. Useless and half-baked product. Thanks for pointing this out to us. Get back to your R&D Moshi! :good:

BTW, got my refund today from Moshi. Here comes the Crown.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Looking at munkypoo's pictures it looks like there is adhesive along the sides :confused:

I would not be happy if the sides were floating in the air and allow junk to get under the screen.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ckspeed1968:
There is no adhesive on the side.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
You 100% sure? Just the top & bottom?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ckspeed1968:
I can lift the side up and blow the dust out with the air can. If you lift it too far up, one of the end will come up. The glass, as pointed out earlier, is straight not curve down to meet the note 4 screen. It does have the 2.5d or whatever. I think that is one of the reason that the cover+ fit better because the edges & corners are thinner.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Does the protector stay attached to the phone good or does it peel off real easy? Is your Note 4 an AT&T model?

Is there any rainbow effect where the two glasses meet in the display area?

Can you post a couple of pictures?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ckspeed1968:
Monkyppo7 said that there is adhesive on the side. I don't believe there is when I realign the screen and happen to touch the side edge.

I can't post pix right now as I don't have way to download from my camera . Wil have to wait til tonight..

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You might want to read post#20 about my opinion of this ivisor. Not enough adhesive. I afraid if you do not have a case that goes over the ivisor edges and corners it might come off if you drop your phone.

The rainbow effet that i see is when i remove the phone from my jean pant front pocket. It will go away after a few minutes.

I will keep the ivisor because it serves my needs, to prevent scratches and 100% halo free, until a better curve e2e glass screen is available.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Seems like the iVisor is great if you have a case. In my case, an Otterbox Commuter would suffice as the inner silicone material can hold all four sides of the iVisor down making it a thinner version of the Otterbox Defender Series case
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Do you think this will be doable...if I install a regular PET film below the iVisor Glass Screen Protector and apply the Commuter Series case?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ckspeed1968:
Verizon Note 4 with moshi iVisor, no case
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ckspeed1968:
Moshi iVisor glass on Note 4 with Samsung Protective Cover+
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
That looks extremely pleasant to the eye. Silly question, how long did it take you to install this protector?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ckspeed1968:
and Moshi iVisor on note 4 with the otterbox commuter case
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
That looks fantastic, thanks for the pictures. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ckspeed1968:
No problems, glad to post pix for you all to decide.

The AT&T employee took like maybe 2-3 minutes and he did not install it straight, also have some dusts in between so I have to remove, clean and re-align. maybe the same amount of time for me also.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Can the Moshi be removed and re-installed again with no problems?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ckspeed1968:
Yes, I think I read on the mfg's package that it can be removed, clean, and re-install as many time as you want. It also said that if the glass don't adhere any more, you just need to clean it with some kind of soap. I don't remember what soap it said to use.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Awesome, no way can dust penetrate through the sides. This is a lot better than the Defender Series.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
I'll remove my Zagg Glass and install the Moshi tomorrow. I'm just too tired to attempt it tonight. :silly:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] babak:
very interesting, there is the possibility to order it from italy?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] rocketsurgeon:
Moshi Visor

How well does the fingerprint sensor work with this item?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Notice how I removed Moshi from the initial post of this thread. It's just not worth the hassle. Trust "Us" ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
I'm a bit worried about the Crown also. :(
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] kench33:
Is the icarez extremely flexible?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Correct me if I'm wrong, how did BodyGuardz decide to market their next-gen screen protectors through the term Crown? What are they encouraging? lol :silly:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] kench33:
Apparently I got the wrong screen protector because mine is just a regular screen protector, even though the box says it is the true glass...Have not received word that I will be getting a replacement or not yet.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
What screen protector did you get ?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] kench33:
I bought the icarez one. I asked them if it was supposed to be flexible and they said no. I'm not sure if someone returned it with the wrong product? It looks exactly identical to the pictures of the glass one. There was even nothing in the icarez thing where the screen protector should have been.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] refinition:
Wow that sucks, best of luck in getting a replacement/refund.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] noremac258:
It's meant to be flexible. It's 0.15mm in thickness.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Android300ZX:
Update:

I was using a Skin Glove case and it seems that was what was lifting the middle of the screen protector. I removed it and now it sits flush but now I have to apparently get another case. I'm going to return it since it's pretty pointless if I can't use my case. I got the case since it was slim and barely added thickness to the phone. This is due to the fact that the screen protector is EDGE to EDGE so the sides of the case were lifting it.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
Get the iCarez. 0.15 mm you will have no halo at all.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Seems like it was adding to the degree of lifting like you said. Even without a case, there is still a gap produced because of the lack of adhesive in the display areas. Time for Moshi to go back to the drawing board, lol. :p
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
The Otterbox Commuter case was causing me this same exact problem. :(

I've noticed the "Moshi Love" ain't what it use to be. :p

Everyone thought I was crazy. :silly:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
I got love for the iCarez no issues at all 2 weeks so far and it's outstanding. [emoji14]

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cubfan99:
No problems at all here. Love the Moshi and it saved my phone from a serious 5 foot drop to a slate floor. Maybe you guys have a case that is pushing it away from the phone? Or maybe have reapplied it several times? Mine is stuck on once and has been flawless from the day I bought it. Totally worth the cost and they stand by their warranty.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
If Moshi has included adhesive on the actual screen area, I would have probably given their product a second thought.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] kench33:
I am almost positive I received the wrong protector. This is flimsy as a regular one, and they emailed me telling me that they are supposed to be rigid. Also it produces bubbles when it says it's not supposed to.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cubfan99:
This is why there is chocolate and vanilla. Because it doesn't have adhesive on the screen and can be repositioned is exactly why I love it. I've had zero problems with mine. You guys must have OCD way beyond anything I've ever experienced. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] noremac258:
It's half the thickness compared to a normal protector. It's thin so thin so it can stick to the sides of the device.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
The fact they can be repositioned is something which skipped my mind.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] kench33:
Interesting,does it seem like yours will shatter? Or does it only shatter on high impact?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] noremac258:
I actually don't own the protector. I've read a lot about it on the forums.

My glass protector has a halo so if I dropped my phone the glass wouldn't stop any impact.

But with a thinner protector that covers the full glass will for sure improve the structural rigidity of the device.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] smacsteve:
Got my iCarez Pro Glass today and now I'm a believer! This is the first and only screen protector that has gone on perfectly and absolutely no halo! I'm in love with iCarez! I'll most likely go with these on all of my phones! I wish the made the Pro Glass version for the Nexus 6.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
I CAN'T SEE IT! It appears to be blended in with the actual screen. This may be the best thus far. :silly::good:

[MENTION=5860476]felloffthetruck[/MENTION]
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mty msi:
iCarez w/ Seidio Surface case

Anyone using the iCarez w/ a Seidio Surface case that can tell me how it fits?

Also, I see no mention of oleophobic coating for fingerprint resistance on Amazon, how is the iCarez for fingerprints?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] kench33:
Does anyone know how to contact icarez? I tried emailing customerservice@icarez.com but am getting an error message. I cracked my protector trying to get dust out from under it.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
All i have to say just buy the iCarez Glass Protector 0.15 mm all feed back on this screen are excellent as i have it myself, so if you don't want HALO then this is what you need for now this is the best glass screen protectors for Note 4.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Let us know how your experience with Customer Service goes! Either in a review on Amazon, or here on XDA. Cheers :good:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
I contacted them via Amazon with a question regarding shopping to the UK, and they answered within 24 hours.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Peteret:
Did they confirm they will ship to the UK?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
No, they confirmed they wouldn't which is why some of us made alternative arrangements with [MENTION=5312977]Dvanzutphenkann[/MENTION]'s wife, Jennifer.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
For those trying to order from the UK. I'm pretty sure there is a company out there that orders from the same factory that manufactures these Glass Screen Protectors. Perhaps Alibaba may work? :confused: