yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Saygus V²] hdtechk:
I already requested refund so this is not an attempt to defending Saygus. If Saygus was doing frequency tuning then yes they are working with FCC certification labs. And if you read about testing facilities on FCC Web sight you will know that "you might not see anything on there sight before it's ready to ship
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
I just don't think that from the moment most of us pre-ordered in February to this August 17th date, we still know nothing more about the phone. I know today exactly what I knew in Feb.
[Saygus V²] BiffTirkle:
Same... Its frustrating to say the least. I had to step put of the forum due to the negativity. It made me want to cancel my order. And since I've been out I haven't cancelled. But now with no solid date I'm heavily contemplating it. I'll be pissed if they ship in November. That's too long, I know its been said but the specs now are out of date. If it shipped 3 months ago it would be fine. But the processor is my biggest gripe. I have a opo and it's fine for now but I'm already feeling its age.

This is a tough call.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
We can see real progress there: someone was promised shipping date to be produced in a week or two, another one already asked for refund.

Sounds familiar, yeah? ;)
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
On igg
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
They are a bunch of liars I won't trust them anymore.
[Saygus V²] Makavelli-:
wow, next week or the following...

but it always will follow a week after the next, that can be a never ending story. Muahaha

I am really curious when will i get this phone.:cowboy:
[Saygus V²] GuillePin:
True words
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Honestly at this point I wouldn't do business with saygus, even if the phone worked perfectly at half the price. I can deal with mistakes and unforeseen issues when accompanied by honesty and integrity. Sadly I've realized there was never a may 22nd ship date, at least not one they had any chance of achieving. 3 months later and we have no ship date, that amazing spec video has yet to show up and twitter communication is as spotty as ever.
[Saygus V²] BiffTirkle:
i sent in my refund request. 9 days, we'll see how long that actually takes. its a tough situation to be in. wanting the device, but really feeling this is too long to wait, and whether or not they deliver. ugh. well, [MENTION=6417622]Boom515[/MENTION] said it. i dont know that id want to give them my business after their crappy business practices is enough to turn me off forever. heck, at least oneplus delivered a phone in spite of the stupid invite system.
[Saygus V²] :
Thread cleaned.

A few things folks....

First, if you are here to just post insults to those that are still interested in the device..... Don't. Just un-subscribe to the thread and move on. Got it? Good!

If you want to discuss other devices you might get, or compare them to the V2... Go here, http://xdaforums.com/saygus-v2/general/alternatives-to-t3114482

If you want to use foul language, find another site for that. ;)

That is all. Please keep this to a discussion about the V2.

Thanks! Back to my pizza...

Darth

Forum Moderator
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
:good:
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Read those Indiegogo comments - amazing enlightment going there.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/saygus-v-squared/x/5609604#/comments
[Saygus V²] Darkside14:
I'm not going to get my refund quickly :laugh: , the answer I get after my refund request:

"Thank you for the feedback!

We are working on the process of refunding customers who ordered through Indiegogo. We were not made aware ahead of time that we would have to issue refunds so we are finalizing the process of how to handle this matter.

We appreciate your patience for the time being."

These guys are going places :silly:
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Does this mean they're refunding all IGG orders, or does this only apply to those who request refunds?
[Saygus V²] Darkside14:
I think it's only for those who wants a refund
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
I suppose it will be the majority of Indiegogo backers once they will realize the scale of SayLies.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
it's an interesting statement because to me it seems saygus might of thought they would not have to refund. i think indiegogo is making the right move and is probably trying to distance themselves from saygus.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
I think we have very bad sign of current situation - Saygus is not presented on IFA 2015.
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
Neither Elephone, OPPO, Meizu or Zopo appear to be exhibiting either - so what's your point?
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
In the past Saygus was using any opportunity to promote V2 at any ocation, but you're right - it is just another chinese phone that nobody cares about.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
I opened a ticket to get an update and they told me they don't know what needs to be done before the is ready to ship, but an email will be going out "by the end of the week with any updates the management has".
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Email by end of this week? Hope to receive email with good news.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
It is second or third "end of the week" in row when update mail was promised to be sent. Let's hope that it won't be condolences.
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Which means Saygus has zero ... zero!....business knowledge of what contractual law is in the United States. The buffoonery at this point is mesmerizing.
[Saygus V²] shaxs:
They havent updated Twitter in a month. These guys are done.
[Saygus V²] Darkside14:
I'm getting tired of not getting my money back
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Why don't you ask for charge back, guys?

You would also get the delay interest.
[Saygus V²] Vattu:
how much is the interest? any fixed, yearly percentage?
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Not that much..

My interest was $36 for 65 days delay.

I don't know the exact ratio of this
[Saygus V²] Vattu:
I make that to a yearly rate at 5,5392%. That's good. I got 0 interest when I cancelled mine. I even got LESS money back, because I didn't pay in USD. Lost money both on the transfer to and from USD. :(
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
But no one else is posting on Twitter either so they must be actively deleting constantly.

I'm glad I hit my refund now I can enjoy the show, see what comes next without ahh money riding on the outcome.
[Saygus V²] vittogn:
I sent them an email and they replied immediately.

Non mentioning about-turn a ship date....

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[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Another end of the week has passed - another SayLies has happened again. Anybody can shoot this poor SayHorse?
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
They deleted (or muted) 2 of my tweets. I asked 24/7 chat why, they responded that they weren't sure why because a different department handles twitter.
[Saygus V²] crazedgod:
How many people on this discussion still have their pre-order open and when did you order? Just curious to know.
[Saygus V²] Makavelli-:
I am still in the game, preordered on 30.04.2015 :p

But i am currently really annoyed because of the absolute lack of any new information (just as the promised video about the phone before 3 weeks ago).

I only hope andreas give us any kind of new information after his call with saygus this week.

Cheers
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
If you come to the other thread....
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
I'm still in.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
I've preodered on Feb 3, in first 30 orders. Still waiting but don't know why, because I've actually found few reasonable alternatives and just waiting for detailed reviews of Sony Z5C, Nubia Z9 Elite world edition, Axon Mini, Bluboo Xtouch, Meizu m2 and Xiaomi Redmi 2 Prime, then I'll decide. I think V2 was planned with all these fantastics specs just in order to attract more people's money, but SayGus has ultimately failed until now in every possible aspect. And those lies, empty promises, lack of communication, childish behavior, cheap marketing tricks doesn't contribute to actual success (if any) of SayGus.
[Saygus V²] Jkteam:
i sent them a ticket friday to cancelled

no answer yet (long weekend i give them a chance)

receving a 50$ extra off from them in may was fast let's see if it will be the same here

I ordered a moto x pure basically because of the price
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
You'll have to be far, far, FAR more patient than giving them just three days. Let alone over a weekend. Or a holiday weekend at that. I wouldn't expect a response for a couple weeks, if not months, given the recent posts from people around here.
[Saygus V²] Jkteam:
yes i am ready for it:)

but honestly Saygus was always fast for me i find

All the tickets where answered fast etc. (expect for the first one in febuarary)

the next one was in may that was fast and it was actually to get 50$ off like those who registered on time so that involved them giving money to me that they didn't had to.

after in june 2 tickets fast answer

now, in september maybe things are different, but 2 weeks ago it was pretty acurate.

I will give them until Friday am
[Saygus V²] Karly Johnston:
They were pretty fast giving you lies and empty promises...
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Yeah, they were pretty fast with this lie: I opened a ticket on Friday, 8/28, asking not for a ship date, but what testing still needs to be completed before its ready. On Monday, 9/1, they sent me a canned response about making the perfect phone, blah, blah, bull****, and they don't have a ship date. I reopened the ticket asking them not to insult me with a boiler plate BS and they sent me this
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
I come back to this forum every few months to see what's going on with SayBS, and die a little inside each time...

Wow, that's a really good question! If they had any business sense at all (which we know they don't), they should have answered that one with at least some details! At this point, they really need to just tell their customers exactly what's going on with the development process. I highly doubt there are any competitors out there at this point that are taking them seriously. Heck, there aren't even that many consumers that still take them seriously.

Good luck on actually getting that email from them. I remember hearing that one before.
[Saygus V²] Jkteam:
Lol ye i guess.

I know that most of the time they have been awful but I have to be honest I can't complain with that in my case
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
From Indiegogo page:

Another lies-formation?
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
I was promised an email by last Friday, so this will be very telling if they fail to follow through (again).

If the phone is coming by the end of the month they should have address confirmations going out so they can label the boxes. I'm still very sceptical. I'll give them until the moment I order my Z5c or Nexus 5 before I ask for a refund.
[Saygus V²] courtneyomg:
They just posted a video to their YouTube channel demoing the V2's V-Chip sunlight viewablity...

and sent out this tweet:

It's not a great update but hey, at least they're communicating again.:rolleyes:

Either way, I'm still going through with my refund. Most of their former 'flagship' features are now outdated. If/when the phone is released I'm guessing it will be filled with many bugs. If they were this bad with the V and now the V2, what does that say about the final product?
[Saygus V²] Jkteam:
Just received this.

Much faster than I thought

RedRalph

September 10, 2015 4:12 pm

Hello,

We are sad to see you go. We greatly appreciate the patience you have had with us and hope you return to be a Saygus customer in the near future!

In order to cancel and refund your purchase please provide the following info:

Your new card information.

Your email. (If the email used at the time of confirmation is not the same, please include it too.)

Awaiting your reply,

Saygus Service Team
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
that makes sense. Can't move on with production if parts are missing and you're waiting for the supplier to send more out to you.
[Saygus V²] waterplanet:
From the latest twitter updates it seems that this is what remains before the phones can ship:

-Some weeks of camera tuning

-Waiting for more parts (10 days?)

-assembling the phones

-some weeks of testing

-CE and FCC certification

Based on this information I guess we have to wait at least to late November before anything will ship.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
So now we have another bunch of fresh lies:

-Some weeks of camera tuning - Back in May or June is was told "weeks, not months" so it is another "weeks" lies. ;)

-Waiting for more parts (10 days?) - This is usual "end of the next week" lie, we get it almost every week. :mad:

-assembling the phones - What "assembling"? The phones were "assembled" back on May 20. :good:

-some weeks of testing - Another "weeks, not months" lie :fingers-crossed:

-CE and FCC certification - Just a moment, I remember is was done back in May, isn't it? :eek:

You forgot to type in which year. :laugh:

---------- Post added at 10:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:48 AM ----------

And actually these were lies too. This time typical "Chad lies"
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
I wonder how the sun-screen tech will affect touch response. I've noticed with phones sporting a new kind of screen-tech that there exists some delay in touch response (e.g Sony's Glove Mode).
[Saygus V²] vittogn:
It shouldn't. I think it is increasing the contrast mainly (hopefully in a smart way).

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[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
People on Indiegogo started to think Saygus is a scam. Lol

Their comments show what we had since several months.
[Saygus V²] crazedgod:
Search for Engadget - Washington state fines crowdfunding project.. Wonder if Saygus will reach this stage.. As far as I'm aware they did issue refunds earlier, but aren't doing so now.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
But most funny thing is that people still contributing money to Indiegogo campaign - few people every day! Amazing!
[Saygus V²] minatour44:
re refunds - might be of interest to some - indiegogo next perhaps

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2015/09/sk...ordered-to-pay-back-the-donors-it-ripped-off/
[Saygus V²] vittogn:
I did it with 5 $! I still think it's a great phone that I'd like to see or have! [emoji2] [emoji2]

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[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Makes me sad people didn't listen to me 5 months ago. Goes to show blind loyalty and ignorance trump simple common sense. I sincerely hope everyone is able to get their money back.
[Saygus V²] courtneyomg:
I was the last IG Early Bird...:rolleyes:

I had heard of their mess up with the first phone but was hoping -- and trying to give them the benefit of the doubt -- they'd gotten their act together in the years-long hiatus and with this new phone. Hadn't heard the talk around the forums, unfortunately or I would've stayed far away!

Needless to say, I'm done with their horrible communication and postponements and started my credit card chargeback dispute on 9/10 and should get my $613 refunded soon (after their investigation is concluded). If anyone else is in the IG boat like me, just contact your credit card and dispute the transaction... IG has already given Saygus all the camapaign funds and can't help you anymore. And Saygus just keeps giving you the run-around telling you to go back to IG.

I'll update you when I get my refund.:good:
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Everyone from Indiegogo needs to mention his terrible story on the campaign page. People there must leave Saygus and do charge back ASAP.

This company does not deserve any measure of trust!.

Guys, act fast and save the rest of naive people.
[Saygus V²] slowpok22:
Got my refund a couple of days ago, good luck to those who wait.
[Saygus V²] courtneyomg:
Were you a Saygus site pre-order or an IG pre-order?
[Saygus V²] slowpok22:
Pre-order #1343
[Saygus V²] courtneyomg:
Okay lol but did you order the phone early from Saygus' site or did you order it when they had their Indiegogo campaign?
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Courtneyomg,

When we say pre-orders it means the early backers who ordered a way before the start of Indiegogo campaign.
[Saygus V²] theleftykid:
hopefully another trusted well known company incorporate the idea of wireless - hdmi to their next phone. that is the main thung i like in this phone.
[Saygus V²] courtneyomg:
Oh okay, I understand now. Thanks.

Saygus is back with Twitter update(s):

"About 90 percent of those who ordered have stayed with us and we appreciate your support! We expect to have more details on shipping by Fri"

More defensive/deflective tweets are on their Twitter if anyone is interested.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
I highly doubt that 90% are still waiting, and I am almost confident it is another lie about shipping.
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
Thats really good news still waiting

thanks
[Saygus V²] zakiwashi:
I was an early pre order customer direct from saygus. Until this time, the only reason I have hung in there was there was simply nothing else on the market comparable. Enter the xperia Z5 compact. I have begun the refund process with saygus. They have, without a doubt, missed the boat. I could never face paying for two 200gb cards anyway, and don't get me started on the camera, et al....
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
sony xperia M5 has smeller:good: camera 13mp front and 21.5 mp back with all sonys goodness
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Yeah, mix of fresh new and old stinky lies + regular marketing BS. Business as usual.
[Saygus V²] zakiwashi:
Indeed but it lacks the biometric scanner. I detest pin and pattern unlock. Face unlock is a non starter.

16gb on board is so 4 years ago! Mind, so is 32gb but i digress....
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
Hey some weeks ago i write them. They promise to give all people a reply about shipping on 11th of September. Of course I receive noooooo Email. I ask again and again. NOOOOOOO Reply

Dear all,

I am still waiting for a reply. Very strange company you are.

From: Dr Skywalker [mailto:xx@hotmail.com]

To: info@saygus.com

Subject: RE: Question

Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 21:44:56 +0200

What is the reason for not answering anymore?

From: info@saygus.com

To: Dr Skywalker [mailto:xx@hotmail.com]

Subject: RE: Question

Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 16:50:15 -0600

Hi xx,

Thank you for contacting Saygus!

We do not have an exact shipping date, but a customer email should be going out next week. This will include the status of the phone.

I’d be happy to assist with any other questions!

Regards,

Sandy

Saygus Service Team

Saygus-Horizontal-200-Yellow-Little

Don’t forget to visit our campaign on Indiegogo <igg.me/at/Saygus> or our Twitter account [MENTION=6700101]SayG[/MENTION]us

From: Dr Skywalker [mailto:xx@hotmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 2:38 PM

To: info@saygus.com

Subject: Question

Dear All,

are you still hold your roadmap? We are now in September.

Best regards,
[Saygus V²] Jkteam:
hi guys

so a little follow up asked for a refund about 18 days ago i openned a ticket

got an answer sept 11th that it will take up to 10 days (business) i received it yesterday so 6 business days. so that's ok.

in may they gave me be a discount of 50 usd (+- 65 cad) now with the refund i just received it ends up that i received more than i paied at the begining lol. i guess it's the only positive point in that long story.

good luck for those hanging there
[Saygus V²] Darkside14:
I've got my refund tuesday, I've opened a refund request with my PayPal account, and I got my money back 3 days later, I'm happy to forget all this bs.
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
I'm expecting the phone to be shipped in November most likely since they haven't even discussed production and more about manufacturing (camera module, sunlight-deflection tech) such that expecting anything in October is going to cause disappointment. They're not a big company such that production plants will willingly give enough resources to make/deliver phones on a global scale within a month of announcing shipping details.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
Sooo tomorrow... Are we getting info?
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
It would be great if we are updated, but it's such a rare occurrence for deadlines to be met I don't hold too much hope.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Not tomorrow. Friday. Lol.

They never did post the video about the waterproofing did they?
[Saygus V²] shaxs:
You expect it to ship? Awww thats cute :)
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
I get a reply after I send the Email again and again like a stalker.

Here the result. But I didnt understand if the will tell us shipping details by Friday. But the need still few weeks because of the OIS back cameras......

I do apologize but I have been waiting for an update myself so I can email you back.

Our current Twitter update was September 21,2015. (LINK not allowed i am a NEWBIE)

Sept. 21: We expect to have more details on shipping by Friday.

Sept. 10: The 21 MP Opitical Imge Stabilized (OIS) back cameras have arrived! They sill require a few weeks of tuning.

I’d be happy to assist with any other questions!

Regards,

Sandy

Saygus Service Team

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[Saygus V²] Purest:
Well it looks like the Turing Phone will be coming out before the v2, they put out a ship date today.
[Saygus V²] vittogn:
Very true.

Z5 Compact, ZUK Z1, OnePlus Mini and a thousand of Chinese interesting phone will likely be on the market before the V2 as well.

The phone is still very attractive but at 600+ price point I struggle to foresee a success.......

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[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
AND Turing Robotics have essentially met each and every deadline they've set themselves for communications. Quite a change from the Saygus silence.
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
Hi,

if someone get a message from Saygus would be great if you post it here.

Until now I didnt believe they give any informations totday about shipping.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Prepare yourself for today's big announcement
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
I already did - just bought some beer and meat, will do barbecue. All our neighbourhood gathering near the huge monitor to see new twits about shipping of mysterious SDP.
[Saygus V²] waterplanet:
Maybe they should name the phone "Saygus PostPhone". :p
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
I have mail them already. Of course no reply.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
You mean Saygus PostP(h)one?
[Saygus V²] mikemaddux:
Looks like you engaged in a llittl currency speculation and got lucky!
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
The announcement was so big that it won't fit twitter page. Saygus is currently looking for proper place which is big enough to put this announcement in.
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
I don't know whether this Tweet will hold good:

"The rest of the cameras are here. A BIG "Thank You" for your patience. We do expect to begin shipping in late October! Possibly sooner."

:rolleyes:
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
wooow . thats great news
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Another empty promise, nothing more.
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
I am wondering that technic homepages like engadget.com or similar pages dont comment this saygus v2 and their politic mentality. everytime lieing then promise and lie and promise lie. what the ****. The people wont be so pissed of. if they hold their mouth. after the first problems sorry for delay we write in one year again. thats it. but all months lieing over lieing.
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
They take off the last post from Twitter. So they cant stay behind their last post "send the phone end of October maybe sooner"

unbelievable........
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
That post is still there I Twitter
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Not sure, what you're referring to....

Their tweet is still available on Twitter, see here: https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/647853333613379584
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
Sorry, now I see it too. I update the page then suddenly i could see it again. Dont know what to say. Just a damn mistake from me.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
WTF?!?!?!
[Saygus V²] jackpot82:
döner
[Saygus V²] courtneyomg:
Of course there's no "big annoucement. Maybe I should link my bank to the Saygus timeline of lies lol :p Still waiting on my (Indiegogo campaign) refund from the chargeback I initiated with my bank on September 10th. I should get an update in a few weeks but their 'investigation' could take up to 3 months total.:rolleyes: