[Saygus V²] vertigo_2_20:
If you actually paid attention to what's been going on in this thread, you'd realize that most of the people are not upset because they don't have the phone "NOW." Just about everyone here preordered the phones weeks or months (or weeks per Saygus, just a lot more of them) before the anticipated release date, so they were buying it knowing they would have to wait. How is that impatience? I absolutely needed a new phone ASAP, and I bought a cheap $50 Windows Phone and have been begrudgingly using it as I wait until a satisfactory Android phone becomes available. And I was fine waiting for the V2, as were most people on this thread, because it appeared to be worth waiting for. Sure, we're upset about the delay and that we wouldn't have the phone when we expected. For those of us with either a broken phone or a cheap, temporary phone, we are desperately wanting this phone to become available to get us out of our situation. For those that have a perfectly working phone and just wanted a "superphone," it is also understandable to be upset about the delay. But the fact is, while many of us are upset about it, that's not the reason we're disgruntled and canceling and making negative comments about Saygus; It's because of the way they've handled the situation, from the beginning, and how they continue to handle it, despite repeatedly acknowledging the fact their communication has been terrible. As I've said before, had they just been honest and forthright about everything, letting us know when they knew about things, and keeping us updated, even if it is just to say there are no updates yet but they're working hard, I would have been willing to give them a lot more slack, and based on the comments here, I think most others would have as well. Of course, they've done such a lousy job up to this point that even if they started making such posts it wouldn't matter anymore, because people have lost faith in them.

It doesn't make people immature to expect a company to which they've given $550-600+ dollars to keep them informed on when they can expect to get what they paid for, not to mention alleviate their concerns that they will even get anything. If the phones are done, even with QC issues, why can Saygus not make a video of one working just to show people they do exist? That's the least a company owes its paying customers. If you truly believe people should be ok with paying a company several hundred dollars without any expectation of service or knowing what they're paying for, then I don't know what else I can say to you on the matter.

As for the "3 kinds of people hanging around this thread," you left out the kind I fit into, which is the ones that have given up on the preorder fiasco, and most likely the phone itself, but are still interested in seeing what happens, whether due to morbid curiosity or a love for tech (I admit I fit into both reasons). I'm sure some people are here just because they're a part of the conversation and so they feel compelled to stay. And others purely out of spite of Saygus. And then there are the people who do have the money but don't want to throw it away, which is the category I was in until I canceled my order about a week ago. Not everybody believes that just because they CAN afford to give a company money for nothing (well, except for being ignored and talked down to for it), that they SHOULD. Again, if that's truly your viewpoint on it, then fine, to each their own, but you need to realize just because you feel a certain way, it doesn't make everyone else wrong.

It's fine to be opinionated, but I think you need to check yours, because you're way off base. Not everybody is in your unique situation or feels that companies deserve so much unearned slack from them, and not everyone can be fit so nicely into so few categories. Perhaps instead of putting down those who are tired of this mess and of giving a company their hard-earned money for nothing, you should reevaluate your "unique perspective" and consider that maybe it's Saygus' fault for how they've treated their customers who believed in them and argued for them, when they wouldn't do it themselves, and finally had enough.