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[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/611250908106612736

https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/610494731143884800

Why doesn't it apply to us?
[Saygus V²] Jkteam:
No what I am saying is that the plan on indiegogo with like shipping in fall doesnt apply to us since we are supposed to have it before.

now i was wondering, since they have the final phone, and they need to tune up some stuff (software and usual stuff as they say), i wanted to know if someone here knows who much time it takes to do this last tune ups?
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
I'm not too familiar with multi-SIM phones, but I see that most have 1 slot that behaves like normal (calls/text/data, 2G/3G/4G), and one that only does calls/text over a 2G connection. Is this a hardware limitation (SIM Slot 2 only has hookups/access to 2G radios), or is it something on the software side?

Would be really cool if both SIM slots on the V2 could fully connect to both networks at the same time, or at the very least allow you to switch which one is the "primary" (choose which SIM you want the data connection to go through) via settings instead of having to physically switch the cards around.
[Saygus V²] zelendel:
It is a programming issue with the antennas. As very fee places in the world use them outside of some 3rd world and developing countries there has been no big push for it
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
Having lived I Asia for years and had my share of dual SIM phones, well before the US ever heard of them I have only seen Chinese units with two fully working SIM slots, calls, sms , and data you choose which one to connect through each time or set a default.

My current $125 MediaTek has dual SIM like this so it's not a far stretch to imagine Saygus will.

You'd set the non data SIM to 2G to save power, no need to have 4G draining the battery.

These SIM's can be turned on and off individually in your settings, in the one I have now I can set a default SIM for each function (data, call, sms, video call).

The only issues I see would be doubling the radiation output which would be an issue if the phone wasn't designed specifically to be low radiation as in the West there are laws restricting the output.
[Saygus V²] theleftykid:
This is the old prototype phone showing the old "V2" logo. They only changed the back casing with a new logo. The new one supposed to have a new logo in the front. .. Sick!!!
[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
[YOUTUBE]Hpd6NGBHt0M[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]lO-ei-sZ1O8[/YOUTUBE]

And thank you [MENTION=4544710]nvitone23[/MENTION] for asking a question that got answered by Saygus :)
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
And they have confirmed that the V2 has an FM transmitter... confirmed on Facebook and Twitter
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Everything is looking up for them now with their recent social media presence. Glad I stuck around.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
please wait on the FM transmitter confirmation... Saygus taught it was FM receiver. Waiting for confirmation now. Note Fm Tx in screenshot.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
last thing I want to do is send false speculations.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
meanwhile over on indiegogo saygus has a 5,000 perk listed as

2 V SQUARED and Factory Tour

Pack your bags because you're headed on a personal tour of our factory. And you're getting two very special phones.

indiegogo lists any form of air transportation as prohibited. just curious if reading that perk you would think it would include transportation to the factory? i do and was wondering if others also did.
[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/611434357266345984

https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/611604680762748928

Edit: Sorry, thought it was just about FM Receiver....but...transmitter? Seriously? wtf would you do with TX when all we need is RX :)
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
Most cars don't have bluetooth enabled radios so an fm transmitter would let users send their audio to their car stereo.
[Saygus V²] post_break:
If Saygus would have acted like this from the beginning a lot less people would have cancelled. I'm still interested to see how it turns out but refuse to buy anything until they actually ship.
[Saygus V²] mklpickle:
Well, they're a Factory Tour Pledge away from being fully funded on Indegogo.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Yes, this :good:
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
Agreed totally, I probably wouldn't have jumped ship after the 5.20.15 let down. I wish them well.
[Saygus V²] mklpickle:
Ruh-Roh....Looks like they need a Factory Tour Pledge, 8 T-shirts and 20 Friends of Saygus now!!
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
So my guess is we are still quite a ways off seeing the actual phone in our hands.
[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
I'm wondering...even with FCC approval and all...

If you turned on the Wifi, had two sims going, turned on the IR blaster, the wiHD, FM Receiver/Transmitter and anything else that sends a signal...

Would you be able to contact aliens or would it give you insta-cancer? :P
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
You'd get cancerous aliens. Duh.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
The V2 has wifi, cellular signal, bluetooth and wihd. I can't wait to be an Alien ?.
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Yay videos of..... IDK....what.....she's kinda cute though. But I promise Tony Sfarks I will be more positive from now on!

Go Saygus!!!!!!! Yay Awesome!!!!!! Can't wait OMG!!!!
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
haha I see what you did there...
[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
(Comedy...any similarities to the living and dead are intentional. Get a sense of humour)

...Meanwhile, back at the Saygus E3 booth: (Part 6)

*Tinkling of glasses, people standing around with champagne*

Samuel Rhodes: ...atom walks into a bar and says "I think I've lost an electron!". The bartender asks, "Are you sure?". The electron replies...wait for it...wait for it..."I'm Positive!"

*Laughter from several people is heard*

Chad: Ah ha ha ha. Nice one Sammy... Hey do you mind checking on Jed? I think him and Pat took one of the phones for a spin.

Samuel Rhodes: Sorry Boss. But who is Pat?

Chad: Ah I think he goes by the name of PatMat or somesuch thing. He's from TheoryGames.

Samuel Rhodes: Oh yeah...I know who he is. We were supposed to watch Fifty Shades of Gray together but he bailed...

Chad: What?!?

Samuel Rhodes: Never mind. I'll do it straight after I visit the rest-room Boss. This Moet is just going straight through me...

-----------------

*Tinkling is heard from a basin. Muffled grunts and a slight knocking on a bathroom stall are heard as well*

Samuel Rhodes: ...aaaahhhhhhh. Thats better. Hey! Hey whoever is in there, are you alright? Do you need help? It sounds like your being strangled!

*Electronic Click*

Jed: Errr...nah we are fine in here. Be on your merry!

*Electronic Click*

Samuel Rhodes: Jed? Jed is that you?!? Hey man we need that phone back! Chad is going to be submitting it to the FCC in the morning!

*Electronic Click* *Muffled grunt*

Jed: Errr...be out in a Saygus minute!

Samuel Rhodes: Ha ha ha...a Saygus minute. Classic. Hey uh...whats that sound? Is someone in there with you?

PatMat: Heeeellp...hell...!!

Jed: Errr...No just the phone and me! I tells ya what though Mr. Rhodes. This Camera is soooooo good. This 4k video makes you feel like your right in there...

*Electronic click*

Samuel: What the...

Jed: And having 464 gig to play with...I've already used half of it!

*Toilet stall door opens with a bang. A plop is heard as the phone splashes into the toilet.*

Jed: Well...this is awkward. At least it's waterproof.

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Team Saygus @Saygus - 3m

What does 3D Audio mean? Sound emitted through Harman/Kardon speakers both through earpiece and receiver. You can hear every scream! Sorry again PatMat!

Team Saygus @Saygus - 4m

If anyone finds a phone in the water near the convention center can you please hand it in. FCC will be delayed for a ‪#‎Saygusminute‬.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
All those Alibaba, Ebay and Amazon accessories "made for Saygus" still haven't updated to USB C. "Order now and you will get a ton of incompatibility absolutely free!".
[Saygus V²] trompeusz:
Hi,

I've got the following e-mail from saygus last night (UTC +2).

Does it means, that they just now processed my refund request, and I have to wait another 5-10 working day from now?

or they already transferred my money, just need to my credit card company to receive the money?

or that i'm again "on the ship" waiting for the phone to be shipped? (I ask this, because 30 min before to this mail, I talked to Samuel, and asked about my refund, and I told him, if the pone will be shipped until mid july, I still need it, and want to cancel my refund request)
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
It would appear it clearly states Transaction Type: RETURN

Why would you think RETURN would mean anything other then RETURN?
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
I just posted this to Fb.

Why is it I've yet to see more than 5 Saygus V² being used at one time? Wait... how about 2

How about you?﻿

^^ it's a poll, so go vote.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Yeah, I had to wait a couple days after that email to see the transaction actually appear, but it did come through; be patient. :)
[Saygus V²] ryan49ryan:
New video showing the wireless charging functioning. Who knew, something wireless other than WiHD works!

[YOUTUBE]watch?v=_VFu2WalCQ4&feature[/YOUTUBE]
[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
New videos up.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_1iTBeqhySTSaq8ajYPFA
[Saygus V²] ryan49ryan:
Good shot of the new layout under the back cover to accommodate the additional SIM card slot. A few people have mentioned that the battery looked like it had a smaller footprint thus potentially increasing the thickness of the phone to keep the battery capacity the same. I don't believe that will be the case as from the rough measurements I took from those two photos after adjusting the perspective, the new battery actually appears to have a slightly larger surface area. We would need straight on photos to actually confirm this though.

[IMG="Saygus V2 dual sim"]http://s13.postimg.org/vxj7w6m1j/V2_dualsim.png[/IMG]

Compared to the old layout.

[IMG="Saygus V2 single sim"]http://images.cdn.stuff.tv/sites/stuff.tv/files/brands/Saygus/saygus-v2-memory.jpg[/IMG]
[Saygus V²] mastewman:
Here are some videos from Saygus in one convenient location: http://www.twenth.com/d0z1m4
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
I don't think we can make any kind of educated guesses toward battery capacity since material and manufacturing technique are the main factors in size. The fact that Saygus contracted with Amprius(yet another startup in Sunnvale,CA) for the work complicates things further since little is known about that company.
[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
The manufacturing of the new layout looks much better than the old one too. Not as rough cut
[Saygus V²] hdtechk:
224 phones sold by saygus since indigo go campaign
[Saygus V²] UnicornKaz:
3D effects

FYI...

The 3D effects they mentioned here ( sound through regular speaker + earpiece) ..

https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/611708643822563328

It already been a possibility with my 1+1 through this method and "might" well works for others ;)

Link

updated 07/21

:

http://xdaforums.com/oneplus-one/development/mod-oneplus-one-stereo-mod-t2967925

~~~

We should aim for the "sound quality" of claimed (Harman/Kardon) hardware :cool:
[Saygus V²] ryan49ryan:
Not sure if it's just me, earlier today I was adding the numbers up as well and 224 phones just seems kinda low. I pre-ordered mine on Feb 4th, just a bit over 24 hours after orders opened up, and was in the 1500's. The first actual customer orders started in the 600's, but still that's almost 1000 phones in a single day. When they cut off pre-orders leading up to the supposed May 22 date order numbers were well over 10,000 if I recall correctly.

My guess is any of the early adopters who are the type to pre-order an unlocked phone, either already have an order in from the first wave, or have cancelled and have no interest in ordering again for the higher price after all the apparent incompetence Saygus has shown up until the complete media turnaround in this last week. Also could be that Saygus has gotten themselves enough negative publicity since February that Indiegogo backers are holding off on ordering.
[Saygus V²] hdtechk:
That's just how many the sold since indigogo campaign started

But if you read contributer list you can count all of us as anonymous
[Saygus V²] ryan49ryan:
I realize I didn't word that right, I was agreeing with your 224 since the indiegogo campaign began. Only an additional 224 since the indiegogo campaign seems low to me. As you just said, all our pre-orders were listed there as anonymous, but only about $800,000 worth which is roughly 1400 orders max. Have that many cancelled from the apparent 10,000+ that had previously ordered?
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
unless they plan to use some kind of pressure metal to metal fitting it seems from that device , which is supposedly finished except for some fine tuning, that there is a lack of a connection to the antenna on the back cover. considering one has to remove that back cover to access sim and data card maybe they decided to use a tensioning fitting. maybe those 4 small studs. anyone know for sure?
[Saygus V²] hdtechk:
Fractal antenna is not an attached antenna it's just a signal booster
[Saygus V²] minatour44:
indiegogo

Has the early bird 600usd changed from x out of 500 to x out of 200???

i think the indiegogo is more about advertising than sales, however if they were to deliver the pre order phones before the end of the campaign i suspect the number of orders would go off the scale, compared to the current dribs and drabs.

I have certainly not yet recommended this phone via indiegogo to my friends since im not sure when/if i ever get the phone. It certainly looks more promising and i wont be cancelling until the likes of andreas and Tony cancel.
[Saygus V²] theleftykid:
Another campaign to cover up the money lose from their investment using previous customers money.
[Saygus V²] theleftykid:
Still no proper review or hands on about the phone. That means mostly everything is not working and manufucturing the phone is still on hold until they sort out that they have a fully functional phone. My suggestion, get a refund and buy a device that exist with longer battery life. Like Nokia 3310.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Pretty much agree with you, except of Nokia 3310 :laugh:. Still much more splurge and show off than actually fully working product. Looks like they are really found new marketing partner to brainwash preorder customers and in order to finance the service of this new marketing partner they've started crowd-funding campaign.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
ok, that would mean there is a second antenna that gets the boosted signal that the fractal creates. is that antenna on a chip? if not, i would not think they would put the receiving antenna behind the battery, so is it also on the back cover?
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Like we didn't see this coming. #sagusheads :eek:

Link

hahahahaha really, didn't see that comming
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Something wrong with my hands... :confused::eek:
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
"NOW is the time to get.... in your hands"

Even the Saygus marketing people admit NOW is the time we got our phones....

...or at least a current delivery schedule.
[Saygus V²] saantiago:
Yes its been changed. Does anyone know if you're entitled to a phone if you buy one from indiegogo? Or can Saygus just take your money and run?
[Saygus V²] slowpok22:
The website says available now at Indiegogo, the new marketing team surely must not know the English language very well.

Am I wrong that from that statement I could get the phone now???
[Saygus V²] MoveAlong77:
First post on XDA! I pre-registered and pre-ordered the V2. I was curious about Saygus' policy on firmware images and here is their response, took 4 days to get reply but they did answer.

Me:

"Hi, one of your pre-order customers here. Just curious what the situation will be with firmware images. Like Google with Nexus and Motorola with MotoX, will Saygus be hosting the original stock firmwares for download? I’d imagine that custom ROM’s will be developed and it’s always nice to know that we can easily get back to stock if needed. Thanks!"

Saygus:

Thank you for contacting Saygus. We apologize for the delay in responding to your inquiry, we got a bit backlogged. There has been much excitement around the V² and we’ve been working around the clock to make sure you get the very best smartphone possible. We can hardly wait to begin shipping the amazing “Superphone”.

To answer your question:

We’ll make sure to help you restore your firmware if necessary. I’m sure we’ll either host our firmware on our site or on a 3rd party support site. Either way we’ll make it easy.

The V² ships with KitKat 4.4.4. An update will be available over the air at a later date. We’ve tried both KitKat 4.4.4 and Lollipop, and for the moment, KitKat affords an overall better user experience. Since the phone is open and root access is available, with a guide, anyone can update the software even before we release an update. But even more interesting, since it is multi-boot capable, you can install another OS (Lollipop for example) into an SD card and boot to that. That way you can experiment and try out the new software without ever erasing the original. If you want to boot back to the original OS just change the boot menu option. Nice!

The V² was built to be amazing. We spent all our effort into packing as much useful technology into it as possible. No gimmicks, just sheer awesomeness. We’re confident you’ll love it.

If you have more questions, or would like further support, please reopen this or create a new support ticket. We’ll be glad to help.

Thank you,

The Saygus Team
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Great post, thanks for sharing
[Saygus V²] BiffTirkle:
Its possible this question has been asked, I've been following for a while now and cannot recall if its been discussed.

What phone are you leaving for the V²?

I have been using a OnePlus since july.

I Usually bump phones twice a year.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Coincidence, I've been using the OPO since July also. The phone itself is a little large and I miss my SD card slot. I will miss the TOL screen though.
[Saygus V²] BiffTirkle:
I got my wife a opo in July too she loves it. I wanted additional storage and yeah its just a bit too big. I had invites like crazy gave away 8 I think.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
It's not a bad phone at all, I can see it being a more comfortable phone for a woman in her purse than a man in his pocket. The battery life is awesome and the cameras are decent. I think cyanogen is overrated though.
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Nexus 5 here.
[Saygus V²] BiffTirkle:
I loved how the nexus 5 looked and felt. But never got it because I don't Like LG.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
iNew V3 plus will be gone. It is a great phone and still will be by the time Saygus arrives. In fact- the price has gone up since I bought it (140$). I just miss custom roms I used to put on all my previous phones and Mediatek doesn't seem to give up on their source code.
[Saygus V²] MoveAlong77:
Galaxy S4 with CM11 just bit the dust, so now getting by with my backup Moto X 2013 DE. I hate not having Qi and SD card. Can't wait for the V2!!
[Saygus V²] BiffTirkle:
The major reasons I'm switching is removable battery, storage and form factor. The rest is a big bonus.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Qi charging, storage, form factor and all the little things
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
I'm using a rooted lg g3 running cloudyg3 and it's a little too big but camera is great with removable battery and SD card support. Looking to downsize while not losing anything and gaining a bunch of additional features.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
Switching from a ZTE Z998 here. I've rooted and ROM'd this thing and can't wait to upgrade!
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Honestly, I haven't upgraded since S2 so that's what I have now. There really has not been a phone that tugged on my heart-strings since then.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
Wow, good for you! I've had every phone since the S2 it seems, including all the Nokia windows phones so I'm impressed that you've made it that long. The v2 should be a fantastic upgrade.
[Saygus V²] s-lps3:
I cannot wait for this coming week to find out any new info. I have though found a video on YouTube that is official its old (CES) but its has

Mr. Sayers going over the phone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pziqKA6LZxM
[Saygus V²] sonwon:
I'm using an S3 and waiting for you all to receive your Saygus and tell us what it is like to own the worlds best phone.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Moto X 2013 here.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I know man. I was tempted with the S5. I can't bring myself to get anything larger than 5" screen either. I work with a bunch of people that have the big phablets. I wouldn't want to lug around something that huge in my pocket. I got a tablet and a comp for all that.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
They can do this easily, because you're not buying phone, but crowdfunding the project. And at the end you supposed to get your perk, as sign of their gratitude to you. But who knows - may be they will be angry on you and won't give you any perk :o

---------- Post added at 06:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:52 PM ----------

You know, they've changed the delivery schedule manufacturer because previous one was bad. Now the new one strugling to produce the new delivery schedule and soon we'll see some engineering samples of this new delivery schedule.
[Saygus V²] Sam K:
After seeing the announcement of the Samsung Galaxy J5 and J7 in the past few days I realized that there's one feature missing from the V² that those phones have and that's the front facing LED flash for the front facing camera.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
http://mblog.gsmarena.com/saygus-v-squared-features-highlighted-set-improvised-videos/

Posted in GSMarena. I believe that you all have seen videos
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
Yeah, that is something that could have been nice for those nightclub shots. Though a workaround that works plenty is Front Flash that uses the screen's white light to produce the same effect. Depending on how far you want to run with this discussion: you can find interesting things about the lux of a display over time versus a LED flash needed within the ms; finding yourself wrestling between the two for your everyday needs and specific needs. For example: the instantaneous lux for a iphone 5 LED light is roughly 40 but a display at say 452 nits can have a consistent intensity of 42 per square feet. Obviously consistent results are much better but if you're the person who wants to only expose your subjects while darking out the background then a flash would be more ideal. In that case, you can just use the rear camer w/ flash and hardware camera button. Either method works. While a front facing LED flash would be nice, I would not pay any more for that specific feature.
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
A rear mounted xenon flash however i would definitely pay more for, it makes the phone into a "real" camera for those night shots - one reason I still have the 808
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
Ask and deliver ASUS: Xenon-diode add-ons is in the works.
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
Thankyou, nice add on, though the whole carry around several bits of gear all the time just in case sort of destroys the usefulness
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
While reading through Indiegogo and twitter posts I found that people asking same specs questions all the time. No wonder - there is no specs at all on official website. Only if one digs a little one can find https://www.saygus.com/v2-2/ with old specs - no dual-sim, no usb 3, no lollipop. I wonder what other changes were made during complete phone redesign. Size, for example.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
Yes everytime they do a website update they removed specs from the list...