yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Saygus V²] halo0:
Yeah no way am I ordering without even a guess at a delivery date. I doubt they get many orders without one.
[Saygus V²] ajftl:
yep i saw the 900$ msrp i think im going to pass i want to know about the camera 240 fps slo mo ?

PS no one would pay 900$ msrp for this
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
Looks like 6 to 8 weeks is expected shipping...

https://www.saygus.com/faq/
[Saygus V²] siphyn:
The V² will work on all the carrier networks in the world.

GSM: Quad band(850/900/1800/1900MHz)

CDMA: 850/1900MHz

UMTS: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8

LTE: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26

So....it appears to support all T-Mobile bands. Nice.
[Saygus V²] Planterz:
Sweet.
[Saygus V²] zakiwashi:
I have just replied to my pre order confirmation email with this "Hi there, given the lack of response from yourselves to me and everyone else in the thread on xda, that i believe you have been made aware of, I am concerned about my "donation". If there is no response to this email within 3 days, I will have to cancel my pre order.

Thanks"

I intend to carry this out too.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Well I certainly hope they get back to you. They should send out a mass email update, update on their website or via social media. If not all three. Maybe attach a blog to their website to keep us posted on where things are.
[Saygus V²] s-lps3:
I say to give them some time to get back to you. I know when I was thinking about going with one plus there was a great deal of complaints about customer support and pretty much put moderators in charge on the forum. I do think that saying your going to cancel your order is a bit fast as it hasn't even been a month. Their reputation is on the line here its do or die for them. I don't they would go through all the marketing just to quit. Think about one plus how long it took customers to receive their phones after payment. It was weeks out and then some. So give them a chance.
[Saygus V²] Soltkemecsei:
I do not quite understand what is going on in this thread.

It is frustrating to have no daily updates, but we all knew that February will be for the final touches, as they did not have a fully working demo phone at CES. They must be quite busy finalizing the production, which is not as easy as there is a 3-week-long new year festival season in China.

"Expected shipping in 6-8 weeks." means that the phones might start shipping late March, or rather early April. It is very important to have even the first batch thoroughly tested, so there might be some delay. Until then keep in mind that they are a startup compnay, so you have to decide if you want them to work on finalizing the phone itself or spend their time on answering thousands (!) of emails, they wil not be able to do both.
[Saygus V²] Nuskid Games:
I'm interested in this one but I think I'll wait until it's released and there are user reviews.
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
Except they were tweeting often when they first were going up for pre order and now all the sudden nothing.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I don't think they need to answer thousands of emails, that's being dramatic. I think a quick update via social media, Mass email or their own website would satisfy most.

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Agreed, the total silence is... Different. I do hope they are working on the phone but you don't need an engineer or ceo to post updates.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
Great comments above, I also think they should do more social media, been pretty quiet since CES. I thought doing a blog about the challenges of being a small start-up was a great idea and not sure what the Saygus team is thinking. I'm afraid there might be only a couple guys on the "team" and they are working overtime already. I'm going to hang in there, can always return it or sell it on swappa for more than I paid possibly. Don't see a real downside to taking delivery of this phone. People always want what they can't get or don't have.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
hmm

I'm not jumping the gun just yet, it's only been a week and a half since I've placed the order. Saygus maybe depending their company's life on this, as if this doesn't go well the company pretty much self-destructs. They probably had to cut human resources down to bare minimum because they won't have a return of investment until China gets those phones to us. I'd love for them to give us some feedback on our questions, but know how hard it is to start a company like that up.

Note: I am speculating here.
[Saygus V²] babaAntoun:
Very true...but how hard can it be to post a quick message either on Twitter or their own website? Just an update would silence all the doubt.
[Saygus V²] zakiwashi:
In the absence of any updates, everyone is speculating, and that is probably what is causing most of the unease.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
I did a quick news search for the Saygus V² and the latest mention I found was this: http://www.ksl.com/?nid=1012&sid=33461659

The article sounds quite nice and optimistic I think. But I don't know if it was written and researched earlier and if there has been a real interview with Chad Sayer, or if his statements from youtube have been used.

Does anyone here know ksl.com and can say if this is a reliable news source?

I'm quite sure the guys at Saygus are working hard to get everything finished for the delivery. Even if it is not easy for me, I will try to stay patient as there isn't anything I can do for now.

Greetings from Germany! :)
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Hi there! I have recently read about the articles. Whether its a reliable source or not it doesn't matter... Its not yet past the delivery period as mentioned in their website, so let's be patience. I know its frustrating..

A good news! They finally reply my email after sending out 3rd email and after about more than a week.

Email said that everything found in FAQ and we must open a ticket via their website for enquiry which I did yesterday.

Furthermore, they mentioned they received alot of queries and are trying their best to reply.

Thus, I conclude that they are really busy and cannot be answering every single email. Perhaps an update on status of their Saygus V2 in production would be good, right? :)

By the way, this phone there is google playstore right? I heard someone saying its not certified by Google? What is it about?
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
I don't understand what kind of questions people want to ask saygus everyone knows very well the device will be delayed. They didn't have a working device in the previous events. Most of the main questions are answered in the FAQ.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
So far, they aren't registered to use the Google play store which means any apps will have to come from other app stores unless they figure it out.
[Saygus V²] jesamyn:
I would imagine that's in the works. While it wouldn't make the phone "useless", it would make it useless for me. They've covered their bases with too many other wishlist items to miss something like that.

~ sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
In total honesty, I have no idea what it takes to be allowed to use the Google play store. It may be as simple as registering the device or software build.
[Saygus V²] jesamyn:
Oh, I didn't think any of us knew the answer. I was just commenting. :)

I did get curious and go look after you replied, though. I found out that the manufacturer sends a device close to final build to Google, who runs a compatibility test on it. The manufacturers generally have the list of test cases, so they can test the device internally before sending it to Google. If Google finds issues, the manufacturer will usually work with Google to resolve them.

That would answer why this phone isn't certified for Google Play access yet. I doubt the pre-production devices were close enough to the final build to be used for compatibility testing. I'm not concerned that the phone will be released before they get certifed.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Um. not having Google Play is not a deal breaker for me. Amazon App store, and Aptoid is still out there with most of the apps I need.

It be nice to have someone answering more specific questions, or having support for those that have faith in them. $600~ dollar investment is hard to swallow for the lack of information. A fifty dollar savings plus a second battery and screen cover is helping offset the anxiety but only for so long.

My guess is, they're being vague on purpose just in case they need to change things up on the fly. Personally, if there is absolutely no word from them by Friday I'm going to be reevaluating my faith and optimism for the company.

Note, more speculation on my part.
[Saygus V²] hdtechk:
I'm still using a phone that Verizon has not white listed the IMEI# on. If you have a sim card already activated place it in phone phone will work. But when you log in to Verizon account it was say none Verizon phone. But it still works the only way Verizon or sprint can prevent this is if Saygus volunteers to give them every IMEI# of every phone they manufacturer the they could black list the phone.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I want to say that Verizon service also has access to GSM network towers. I think in order to support their voLTE. Do you get a sim card from Verizon?

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And can you make calls on that phone with Verizon service? And if you can, is it over VOLTE service?
[Saygus V²] hdtechk:
VOLTE is only on lte networks and yes I have VOLTE. If don't have sim card for lte get old lte phone moto x droid maxx or something have sim card activated with one of them then switch card to new phone. The only thing the certification is going to do is say that they will sell the phone in there retail stores
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Thank you for the response.
[Saygus V²] hdtechk:
Saygus is only building one phone fractal Antenna is only thing that will be different for different services
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
Delay in production can happen even for big companies like apple

(Problems with taptic engine production have caused the delay in Apple Watch shipments)

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Prob...ed-the-delay-in-Apple-Watch-shipments_id68848

waiting for superphone soon:):)
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Isn't LTE, GSM tech, and also that LTE is backwards compatible to GSM? Meaning verizon would have to be compatible to GSM.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Remember what I said....

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Dear Andreas,it is better not to spare valuable time answering irrelevancies.Ofcourse it is okay to answer the sensible questions.Doubting Thomas' will remain always doubting.There is no cure for it!So please be sensible.

Regarding the price after the delivery of the pre-orders I speculate it would be in the range around 800 to 850USD.It will be justifiable to those who wait for the purchase after the material realization of the performance of the phone!

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You are correct...

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:rolleyes::crying:
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
LTE is a GSM standard, but Verizon opted to migrate to it for 4G data (and VoLTE).

However, traditional voice calls and fallback data links use Verizon's older CDMA network.

If the V2 only included GSM radios, it would only be compatible with Verizon's LTE networks. As soon as you went out of range of a Verizon LTE tower, there would be nothing to "fall back" to, because Verizon's 2G (traditional voice and slow data) and 3G (faster data) networks utilize CDMA 1xRTT/EVDO.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I do believe lte network verizon has is quite impressive. I know they are trying desperately to get rid of cdma. What i have hard time believing is that your phone got access to verizon cdma network (not lte/gsm) without being activated.
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
Yes, it's the largest LTE network in the US, but if I travel through an area with no verizon LTE coverage, I'd at least like to have voice+slow data via 1x-EVDO.

Verizon does plan on refarming one of its CDMA bands to LTE (CDMA B1 -> LTE B2), but I don't think they have any plans on refarming their CDMA B0.

Not entirely sure how Verizon goes about handling non-VZW devices. [MENTION=4302655]hdtechk[/MENTION] said you can just pop in an already activated SIM card and go, but according to this post, they had to call VZW CS and get them to add their phone's IMEI to Verizon's whitelist.

Also not sure if Verizon will handle the whitelist differently based on LTE vs CDMA connection (might allow it on LTE immediately due to FCC stipulations related to Verizon's 700Mhz LTE B13 purchase, but might deny it on CDMA before they approve it, since there are no such stipulations). Guess we won't know until the V2 launches! :o
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Just to be clear you are saying frog protection?! Yeah, fraud protection. Frog protection. FraUD. FroG. FrauD-uh.....I think we're on the same page. We're totally on the same page.
[Saygus V²] minatour44:
card protection

just out of interest does anyone know if the payment is direct to saygus and not though a third party billing system similar to billpay or paypal, just wondering cos if its direct then all uk buyers would be protection by section 75 law, if not no protection :(

h t t p://three w's dot moneysavingexpert dot com/shopping/section75-protect-your-purchases

it does protect for internation purchaces :)
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
Invoice on my credit card statement says the charge was from Saygus.com. The invoice I have from Saygus is an original invoice generated from info@saygus.com . Doesn't appear to be a 3rd party bill to me?
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
It's definitely not through PayPal. It's through whatever merchant services they use, not sure if that qualifies under "third party" in your country. My charge looked like this:

02-07-2015	SAYGUS.COM 8017481780 UT	MerchandiseELECTRONIC STORES	$ 549.00

Transaction Type: Purchases

Posted Date : 02-07-2015

Reference Number: G99V98HJ

Merchant Country: United States
[Saygus V²] minatour44:
payment protection for uk buyers

thats fantastic , thank you for that, that would mean all uk credit card purchasers should be covered by uk section 75 consumer protection rights :) awesome . its a very power consumer right from what i have heard and read. so a much safer gamble now.....
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Where did the name come from?

So, I think CDMA,how we can get refunds, and how support for an in-development product should be handled have been exhausted, revived, and then beaten to death again.

While some of us are patiently waiting for the V2, let's start a new topic, just for the fun of it. And I'm genuinely curious about this. :)

Does anyone know where the name "V2" came from and what it means? And how did they come up with a company name like "Saygus"?
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
In all your posts all you do is quote people to add worthless emojis and your pseudo philosophical remarks. Critical and judgmental. Riding the Saygus Epeen. (Logic forbid we question Saygus and the V2)

I wonder if ANY of your posts are diplomatic and open minded. But they all seem the same. Negative, judgmental and philosophically ostentatious as well as lacking in humor.

Are you that riddled with complexes that you feel the need to spread your negative character in a forum as well?
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Lol! OK, fine. I'll ask them, I'm just trying to add some positivity to the thread. With less than a month to go, there's no harm in trying to keep things fun, right? :)

While we're waiting for an official answer, does anyone else have info/theories on Saygus' or the V2's name? (Aside from being the successor to the V-phone, of course.) :)
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Excellent!To be critical judgmental is not exclusively your own portfolio.Everyone has the right for it. Don't act king over others.And negativity is not a matter to be decided by you alone.Others here also should feel it likewise.And coming to humor sense,I think whining,nagging,trolling etc are not good examples of humor.More over this thread in xda is not meant for humor,jokes etc.For that we can start a cartoon thread!(JOKE!JOKE!!JOKE!!!)
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Why would there be more info/theories on the V2 name? That's it. Their V1 never came out, now they're trying the V2. As for company name, maybe Chad was having a convo with Gus, who was complaining that no one could make a phone that consumers really wanted. Chad said, "Say Gus, what if I could make that phone, would you buy it?"
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Then why call it the V-squared instead of the V-two? And what does the V stand for?

I'm also wondering if there is a story like that behind the name "Saygus". I mean, who uses "Say [person's name], ..." for direct address these days, anyway?
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Meet Chad Saygus... he is confused​
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
:)

I should mention that I have always been genuinely curious about their name since I heard it. Seriously. I'm not trying to act like an idiot, I come by it honestly enough... :P Am I the only one wondering this?

Oh, and their live support didn't know the answer to my question. (Surprise, surprise!) But I've tweeted to them too... Rest assured, everyone that's worried; WE WILL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS!

Perhaps "Saygus" is a mashup of Chad Sayers and Tim [lastname or nickname with gus in it?]
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Edit, I was mistaken
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Nope. Definitely Chad Sayers: https://www.linkedin.com/pub/chad-sayers/8/6b8/76b

http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/07/saygus-v2-handson/
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
His name is Chad Sayers, the video says "Chad at Saygus"
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
My bad, good call:good:
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Well, we figured out the Say half... The tim in question is Tim Riker unless there was originally another person involved. I think claim to have been in business since 2009
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
100% Agree with you ... I'm new in this form but I used to read everything in Saygus forum. She/he seems very rude and impolite. (pnsdhrn) Just try to respect and behave well next time.

I did not like all your negative and disrespectful comments, but I never used your inappropriate way in commenting.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
Time to sit back & enjoy some popcorn. :silly:
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Dear halkhali,I am sorry to see you feel that I am very rude and impolite.In fact you have admitted that you are new to this forum.On the other hand I am very old, to be precisely since 2007.Since then I was and am very polite and submissive in all the threads in this forum.But at times some one has to be to the point to give deserving answers to those who make it a point to constantly accuse and nag at others. That is why I am doing this.You can find if you go through other threads that I am and was not specifically averse to any one,but very polite.Every one in these threads will admit it.Sorry to you to make me feel myself as a very rude and impolite man.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Saygus terms and conditions

I see this interesting,

"If the Device is or becomes defective through no fault of your own, you may be entitled to a refund, replacement, or repair of your Device. Please refer to the manufacturer for any manufacturer warranty by contacting: Saygus China, 912 Building 1A, Hezheng-Huiyi Cheng, XinhuRd. Xixiang, Baoan District, Shenzhen, Guangdong China, Postcode 518101

If you have a defective Device, please contact Saygus support. If the Device is manufactured by a third party, Saygus may refer you to the applicable manufacturer of the Device for support with Device defects. If Saygus provides you with a replacement Device, you agree that Saygus may exchange the defective Device with either a new or refurbished Device. If Saygus provides you with a replacement Device before we receive your defective Device, and you do not return the defective Device within 21 days from the date the replacement Device is delivered to you, you authorize Saygus to charge your Saygus account for the replacement Device, not to exceed the amount paid for the original Device. Nothing in this section affects your legal rights under applicable laws. Unless otherwise required under applicable laws, Saygus may only provide warranty support for Devices manufactured by Saygus that are located in the United States of America."
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Nothing out of the ordinary.
[Saygus V²] Windswept7:
Super excited, 1/5/15 21 days to go! (In Australia so, you know, we're from the future, along with Japan and New Zealand)

I really hope that Saygus implement some kind of manual camera control and DNG raw output for the camera, especially since it is using that new Sony sensor.

Phase detection in the new sensor should be amazing, just look at the sony a6000 or the a5100 to see what its all about. Not really fussed about the megapixels, could be good for prints but the real magic will happen once we get access to that raw data and can manually control the camera.

Dont think that will happen until a stable version of Lollipop, but heres to hoping!
[Saygus V²] minatour44:
Ordered

I finally decided to get off the fence and place an order before the pre-reg deadline. The order number was 113xx, wow - My guess is that they have had more than a few orders then , roll on 22nd May :)
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Saygus may have orders from mobile service providers as well
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Wise man!Good decision!!
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
When did you place your order???

I made my order since 11 hours and my order number was 114xx.
[Saygus V²] minatour44:
order

it was yesterday - 04/30/2015 12: ish - 113xx

very excited now :)
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
I'm getting anxious again about the lack of updates/information. I find it very hard to believe that only one person can tweet updates, and that person happens to be the hospital.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
According to Andreas, the one who always posts on Twitter is not feeling well and hospitalized