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[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Don't be a self seeker,be benevolent!

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[Saygus V²] possibilis:
1. I'm glad for all the people that have a late chance. Saygus did tap in the dark for a while and this is what I consider proper timing for pre-order. January was way too early.

2. They DID make early buyers extra privileged. Besides timing of shipment there are earphones that quitters won't receive.

3. All should chip in! Let ROMs rain!

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Certain Josh Werner posted on Facebook an answer from Saygus that they will make Cyanogen and Ubuntu available "shortly after launch". This will be awsome.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
What the heck? Where did you read this? :eek:

The reply of the Saygus doesn't state clearly, if there will be an official version of CyanogenMod or Ubuntu provided by them. It only says: "[...] we do expect to provide the option of running Cyanagen Mods and you will be able to boot Ubuntu and other 'authorized' OS's. [...]"

I think it would be far to much interpretation, if you expect them to provide official builds of different OS'es, completely ported by their software development team.

IMHO they should focus on the hardware part and one official, primary OS. ;)

Less than one month to go - lets see what the next weeks will bring. Excitement is rising! :D
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Did anyone recently place an order to get the 50 off plus the extras? I tried it and I know i put in the code but I was charged 599... Did it work for anyone else?
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
My bad. Was in a rush.

Providing an option is a bit different indeed.
[Saygus V²] MadBob:
It will only work if you pre-ordered it, this code is linked to the email address you already pre-ordered against.

It will not currently work with any new purchase.
[Saygus V²] Soltkemecsei:
It will work with new purchases in case you use the new coupon code and order from an email address which you signed up with during the pre-registration (that was closed on 2/Feb).
[Saygus V²] MadBob:
Sorry I meant pre-registered not pre-ordered
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
So i originally ordered before Feb 2nd then canceled about 2 weeks ago and now i placed an order with the code. When i first put in the code it showed the discount and all but when I submitted my payment info it charged me 599. Should I be getting the 549 preorder deal or not?
[Saygus V²] Soltkemecsei:
You must get the $549 deal only if you received the email offer (Subject: "Saygus V² Shipping Begins in a Few Weeks | Get your V² for $549 One Last Time!").

If you haven't received this email, but did pre-register, then I'd say you should ask the 24/7 support., as there is chance that you were left out by accident. (pros: you did pre-register, you put in your money; cons: you canceled, which means handling costs)

Good luck!
[Saygus V²] bag123boy:
So far we have seen the durability of the phone and the cameras. Now we need the water test, power saving chip, sun light view screen, finger sensor, and the SD card. Those are the one I'm looking forward. What about u guys?
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
Personally I don't care too much about the booting from the sd slot or the finger print scanner. Everything else I hope they show off soonish*

*in Saygus time
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I'd find the booting from SD card interesting to see. Heck; I'd be tickled for any other feature than the WIHD to be demonstrated. I have been pleasantly surprised by the drop test, and pictures they showed over the last week. I can't wait for more.
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
type of both camera sensors used in your V2

The answer

We are waiting for the specs of the cameras from manufacturer as well. Watch on twitter to see them posted in the next couple of weeks or so. :confused::confused:
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Saygus should not offer Extra accessories package to those who canceled their pre registration orders and/or those who haven't ordered yet after preregistration. For me, I did not pre register but I ordered on 7 Feb. The price is $599 without accessories. Saygus take money from CC almost immediately. Waited for almost 3 months. Now, are the persons who did pre-register getting extra accessories if they order now? Or Is Saygus offering for new pre-registration?
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
It's only for those who cancelled their pre-orders that had the accessories. I think pre-registration peeps are allowed to get it. I'm afaik in the first ten pre-orders, I don't see why others who cancelled can't get back in. Saygus had a really rough start. I wonder if the fact that they are talking is because the phone is pretty much ready to go.
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
This was my last chat with support team today

Hello, Welcome back to Saygus 24x7 live chat support. How may i help you today?

Client

hi

Jessica

hi

How can i help you today?

Client

how is the spekers in ur V2 phone

Jessica

They are custom made from Harmon Kardon. So you will experience a bliss

Client

what about the Biometric Fingerprint Side Scanner

Jessica

They are sliding type and works extremely well.

Client

do u know which type of sensors used in the V2 camera

Jessica

We are using the Sony 230 sensor for the 21 MP back camera. It is very reliable and one of the best on the market for high-end smartphones.

:):good:

Client

you mean Exmor RS™ IMX230 for both camera ?

Jessica

For the back camera

We will soon reveal the specs of the front camera.

Client

Its from sonalso ?

from sony also

Jessica

I do not have that information yet. We will reveal them soon.

Client

what about aperture for the back camera ? do u have any detailed information ?

Jessica

We should have the "down and dirty" details of the cameras from our camera manufacture this week sometime. We will keep you posted.

Client

u can update the V2 spes

in ur site

Jessica

Yes we will update them soon.

Client

can i use any wireless charger to charge the V2?

Jessica

Yes you can use any one

Client

Thanks for ur help

You rated our customer service as good.

Jessica

You are most welcome :):):)
[Saygus V²] post_break:
I'm so torn. I cancelled my preorder after the ship date slipped. $50 off, with an extra battery and screen protector is nice, but the company is what worries me the most. I guess I have a week to sit on it.
[Saygus V²] enzo ferraro:
Don't Forget, We Did Benefit By Waiting

It may not seem like a helluva lot, but those of us who signed up early, and have held our place in line, have gained some benefit, although not necessarily directly from Saygus.

As other orders ahead of me (I'm No. 1132) cancelled out, presumably I have moved up in the queue, and I'll get my phone ahead of the now-latecomers who decided to reverse their original decision to cancel out. It may not seem like a big

deal, but it may result in getting my phone a few days sooner than otherwise.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
Android 1.6, up-gradable to 2.0! Just about 5 years ago and that was cutting edge technology. Sounds so obsolete now. Amazing how fast the tech evolves in just 5 years. 5 years from now the V2 will look the same way. They miss the 5.22 ship date with the V2, I would think they won't be in a good position. Time will tell. Nice post!
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
Saygus website updated about Specs!
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
In my experience, to have failed one learns how not to fail.
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Just curious, since I don't believe it's been inquired on yet. Since these are shipping direct from China to end country, will buyers also be hit with customs/duties/import/VAT upon receipt?
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
As far as I understood the FAQ, you will have to pay them together with the shipping cost and Saygus will calculate them for you in advance. ;)

See https://www.saygus.com/faq/how-much-will-shipping-be/
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Oooh, boy. That could get ugly quick. As the zen master says...
[Saygus V²] sonwon:
The sunlight is of major concern to me. I suspect I'll end up with a Galaxy S5.
[Saygus V²] Soltkemecsei:
Here are some features we might expect: http://www.quicklogic.com/technologies/visual-and-display/vee/

I'm sure, Saygus will not create and upload a comparison video to demonstrate the display.

If you make a video that includes your competitors, then you need laboratory environment and professional, documented shooting to protect yourself. Such videos will be uploaded during the first days/weeks by the first lucky users, but these videos usually have so bad quality and accuracy, that they do not help, but mislead.
[Saygus V²] revwillie:
where does the preorder support group meet?

seriously. I resisted the temptation to preorder for the extras package the first time around. I was very proud of myself.

But then Saygus reopened it and I couldn't resist any more. This better be good. Now the $50 dollars I saved I can pay to someone else to tell my wife about this.

I tried to ask on the chat support if the spare battery needs a special charger or if it could simply recharge wirelessly outside of the phone. Sam did not know the answer. Do other phone batteries with built-in recharging coils work that way?

Thanks for reading.
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
I definitely give some of you guys props for being so patient and submissive. You literally are buying this product completely blind. Saygus just casually seems to keep saying "We have the greatest smartphone on the planet....we love it and know that you'll love it!".....but then in the same breath "we don't have anything to show you guys about any of the actual features we claim the phone has."

Scary, but I definitely tip my hat to those of you who are loyal and stick with it.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
The wireless Qi charging is built in the V²'s back cover and not included in the battery. ;)

So you will need a 'special' charger, in order to recharge the spare battery outside the phone.

There are universal smartphone battery chargers out there, which will probably work.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Thanks. I'm a thrill seeker myself ?
[Saygus V²] revwillie:
I figure if I hate it, I'll sell it on ebay and get a cheap LG G3. Once the G4 comes out, G3's will hopefully be cheap.

I went looking all over for a 32GB GSIII and had to buy a used one off ebay. Then Samsung never put out a 32GB GS4 or GS5 and the GS6 has no expandable storage or replaceable battery. I've been squeezing value out of my t999 for more than 2.5 years. All I want is more than 32GB internal storage, expandable storage and a friggin swappable battery. Is that too much to expect? The V2 is kinda like my holy grail now.
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Glutton for punishment :)

Dude, I am

RIGHT

there with you. My Note 3 is struggling bad (probably just the 5.0 update), but I have become so disenchanted by all the carrier skins and bloat. I just want a great phone with raw Android that fits in my pocket with SD slot and removable battery.

Believe me, I hear you. I'm willing to buy from Saygus, but I don't need a pre-order for a $5 screen protector and battery to do that. I'll buy it once it's legit.
[Saygus V²] Soltkemecsei:
After watching the recent videos, Saygus is not at the level to shoot a video that could demonstrate the display the way you'd see it. Lots of flares and reflections that you maybe do not even notice, but the camera makes them disturbing.

It might be because I do photography, but on the other hand they won't buy the cellphone that I design. ;)
[Saygus V²] BiffTirkle:
i have been a bit annoyed from the start that i didnt "pre-register" but i preordered the same time they were doing the promotion. i paid full price and just dealt with it. to be honest, i have been too busy to fuss too much with it.

yesterday i figured id send them a question about my preorder/pre-registration and they issued me a $50 refund and i got the benefits of pre-registering! for that i give saygus props!

so now i need to buy a couple of 128gb micro sd cards!
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Please tell me how you did this/who you got in contact with! I've been struggling to get this same thing done!
[Saygus V²] BiffTirkle:
my order number is 1845, all i did was give them the facts, the date i ordered my order number and simply asked if i could get the same benefits of a pre-registration. i also told them i had no desire for the headphones since i already had a nice set.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
You did not pre-register but pre-ordered? It is NOT FAIR if Saygus issued $50 refund. I also did the same thing but I pay full amount $599 WITHOUT extra screen protector and battery
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Can you give me the email of the person you contacted?
[Saygus V²] BiffTirkle:
I preordered during the promotional time, I registered as I preordered. If I had preregistered, I would have received a code for the preorder. Simple as that. I think that is the reason I got the promotional offer.

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i submitted a ticket, thats all.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
Que the whining....
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
That's all this thread is...a bunch of entitled whiners.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
I've been reading this thread since page 8 and there is a lot of great info and helpful comments but this last few days have been rough.

Saygus needs to sell as many phones as possible to make it so please don't be mad of you paid more or had your preorder in for three months now. Let's play nice, in three weeks we can begin talking about custom roms and sharing personal reviews?.
[Saygus V²] jimmyhauser:
Is saygus pronounced with a hard g (like guard) or soft g (like germ)?

I believe people who feel slighted or cheated should just contact saygus, get a refund and move on. Not sure why you come here and complain about it, as it will not get you anything at all.

I'm hanging in there because I'm a gadget whore who can afford to waste money on gadget whoring. I presume most who preordered this phone are likewise.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
You can hear pronunciation in Saygus' YouTube video. Pronounced by Founder, Chad.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
It used to be ten weeks. People you can hold on? Saygus has busted out customer service. Given those that got refunds a second chance. Showed us features on their youtube. Can't you wait just three weeks? I'm sure within the next few weeks a plethora of reading and viewing pleasure will be available for v2.

Side question: How many people will be extremely apprehensive to test the waterproof feature of this phone?
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Saygus fact

Who still think Saygus is a scam or vaporware?:D
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
I don't think I'll be game.

[IMG="I don't think so!"]http://cdn.mos.techradar.com/art/mobile_phones/Carphone%20Warehouse/WaterproofPhones/Liquipel-Press-970-80.jpg[/IMG]
[Saygus V²] nonlose:
I kinda can't live without front facing speakers after being spoiled by the shield tablet. I also need expandable storage and a good camera. I was thinking of getting the htc m9 before the v2 but with the reviews and the pluses the v2 has over the htc m9 I decided to get the v2.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Thanks.You said what should be said.

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Instead you buy 2 nos of 200 gb cards now.

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[Saygus V²] possibilis:
I am still not sure what exactly can make one QI charger so much better than the other. And the article was stating advantages like "plug it directly into usb port" or "Available in black, blue, red and yellow". I appreciate the thought though. I believe this should be taken into wider discussion. Are there models that Saygus will not be compatible with?
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Who is gonna acquire ''Saygus Devices and Services''?
[Saygus V²] post_break:
I've thought about it and I can't get back on the preorder. 4.4.4 these days is so old it's not even funny. Sure 5.0.1 had a massive memory leak but that was fixed. The LG G4 is dropping with 5.1.1 out of the box. There is really no excuse to not launch on the current gen OS and I don't have faith that Saygus will support the device beyond 4.4.4. Sure maybe CM will pick it up, but I'm tired of buggy roms. I guess I'll wait for the next one plus device even if it has stupid invites and won't have SD card slots.

On that note, I hope everyone who preordered gets their device fast, the wait has to be killing you guys. I look forward to seeing user reviews.
[Saygus V²] MikeyMike01:
If Saygus is as developer friendly as they claim they will be, software support should be the last thing you are concerned with.
[Saygus V²] MadBob:
I'm glad they finally altered the spec list to show USB 2
[Saygus V²] tightos:
I've got the PowerBot.... it works fine, plus it has an audible feedback for successful and unsuccessful device placement (makes a noise telling you whether you placed your device properly on the charger and it's charging, or not)....... and a led indicator too.

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I've owned two different types of QI chargers.... and one of them got hot within the first 15mins of charging..... the other brand worked just fine. One took longer to charge from the exact battery percentage point, with both of them having the same output (volts and amps). So there are differences between chargers.....
[Saygus V²] limpopo:
Yes, the G4 is looking like a well-balanced device. LG have gone for Snapdragon 808, which shouldn't be as bad of a space heater as 810, while still being 64 bit. Screen contrast is apparently higher, and it has panel self-refresh, which should help battery life. Battery remains removable and there is SD card on top of 32GB internal. Camera lens is now F 1.8 and there is three-axis OIS. It will launch with Lollipop 5.1. GPU might be an issue for gamers given the screen resolution.

I am happy with the 32GB/3GB RAM G3 I bought after I got a refund from Saygus.

Just an option, not trying to undermine Saygus or tell people what to do.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
There is no twitter post yet for this week. Saygus must be planning to post something interesting for us :)
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
or they are taking lessons on valve time.
[Saygus V²] hella356:
Now that the G4 is confirmed as a phablet (too large for my wants) & the Z4/Z3+ is looking iffy in a number of ways, I'll be waiting to see if the V2 gets released & lives up to the hype. I've used Galaxy S phones the last 4 years & the S6 lacking SD & removable battery makes me want to vote against Samsung by not buying the S6, although it otherwise looks like a great phone. So hopefully the V2 becomes a viable option.
[Saygus V²] saantiago:
Good news boys

If it doesn't, at least we'll have the screen shot to potentially get a refund after its released.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
I don't know why, but I cant believe this company. I tried to ask same questions for two of Saygus chat operators (Samuel and Jessica). Both of them gave me different answers. For instance, Where the phone is made in ? Samuel did not know the answer, he seems skeptical first time, and then he created a ticket for me. later, I received an email:

"	Hi,

We are currently building the V Squared in Shenzhen, China, but we plan to move the manufacturing here to Utah for the bulk of it over years.

Thanks for a great question! "

Jessica immediately replied my question and said that the phone is proudly made in USA. I told here are you sure? She said "Yes. We do have our own factory in Utah''

My second question was "how many employees does Saygus have?"

Samuel replied that we currently have almost 50 employees. On the other hand, Jessica said '' We have 300s but we are growing really really fast''.

I also asked both of them where are they right now?. Both said that they are in Utah - USA, but I could not believe that someone is working after 2 AM for a US company in the USA if he/she is not in security job.

I'm still having concerns about all of these points:-

1- Who is funding Saygus? What are their resources? how they can pay salaries to the working staff?

2- Why do they seem to be so unprofessional in their official videos, photos, and even the demo madeby Saygus CEO? I know they are a new and small company, but their media department is in no way comparable to the ones in Nokia, HTC, OnePlus, BlackBerry or other new Chinese phones manufacturers.

3- Big Phone manufacturers took a very long time to produce CDMA variant. How they are so confident that they will release both GSM and CDMA variants at the same time (May 22nd), while they still don't show any fully functional unit or make official unboxing yet?.

4- Do they really can ship this phone internationally? Do they have worldwide offices or stores? They even did not make any exclusions and put every country in their shipping list.

5- Are they really able to ship phones to Afganistan, Syria, Iraq or any difficult to reach places? (it seems they can, because they list these places in the regions shipping option).

6- What bout after sales??? If someone was able to get his phone in Iran and it happened to be a defective unit. How can they return it? to where? and who is responsible for paying the shipping cost? .

I really don't know if should I place an order before May 1st for $550 (Pre-registered option) or wait and see if Saygus is a true company or Scam vaporware like QSAlpha !
[Saygus V²] bag123boy:
What is this about? Sprint network?

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Wow the part where they both different answer really making me nervous. From 50 employees to 300. That is some ****.... Andres can u shed light into this matter? Obviously in ur free time cuz we all here appreciate what u do
[Saygus V²] saantiago:
You have to realize they are a very small company. They don't have the experience/know how as companies that have existed for a few decades. My guess is that they have venture capitalist backing and probably small business loans. The employees quote is strange, but if I had to guess most of the people answering are kids hired at a support center on 8 bucks an hour, and that they may have been answering the questions based on the employees at the site. I'm just playing devils advocate here, and what they are attempting to do certainly isn't impossible. Also, it follows the same path many of your larger companies have gone down in the world today; everybody has to start somewhere. If it does flop, I personally would be disappointed, but there would probably be some class action lawsuit if it did and $550 is an amount I'd be willing to sacrifice for a phone this developer friendly.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
I'd also imagine some one the support stay may be overseas as well.
[Saygus V²] saantiago:
It was regarding Verizon.
[Saygus V²] BtotheT:
I personally look at it(phone aside) as a 320-464gb small 1080p tablet with all kinds of connectivity, durability, battery life, and beasty cameras.

It's pretty much a win to me in many ways, the dual operating system(via reboot) leaves the ability to have one microSD run Ubuntu(desktop style with peripherals), on the other microSD throw 80GB of my encyclopedias/literature, some recent movies to stream or play via the USBs HDMI capability, IR blaster control other devices..

Etc Etc, Win.