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[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Saygus has already tweeted that WiFi calling is expected to be supported by the V2.

Yeah, second device is pretty far fetched. I musta been high when I wrote that ;)

This theory actually sounds plausible. Having support from a reputable ROM/OS developer would be exciting.

I'm going to do a thought experiment here, and anything stated below is just for fun but probably not true:

It would be literally the best news if Google had their hands in this. I highly doubt it though. Only because Google is really focused on their Nexus brand phone. However, on the flip side, there are not many phones that have the network (cdma, gsm, lte) capabilities as the V2, and Nexus is one that immediately comes to mind. If Google really wants to get Project Fi off the ground, I think it would be a good idea for them to target other supporting phones like the V2. Us pre-register folk are the perfect people to get involved in that, and I'd think some of us may be interested in traveling down that path- myself included. Google could also divorce overseas production of their Nexus and invest in a closer to home manufacture like the Saygus to develop future Nexus phone. (Edit: and having a phone like V2 constrained to just either CDMA or GSM seems like a waste of power anyway. Why not unleash it's ability to operate on both networks?) That would I think save them money in the long run, and be an exclusive USA product which would bring more money to American economy (I'm biased here btw being American myself), and become a major player against Apple. Apple is a threat to Google, because of their IPHONE and Apple Pay. The Saygus' concepts on phones is a great breath of fresh air in the smartphone industry, and I think if V2 is a success, these companies like Google will want Saygus to manufacture their future flagship phones.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Plausible if not probable. Goes along with the "company move" and promotes new capabilities.

Two OS's mentioned could be free and Google cooperation seems unlikely to me because we haven't seen any signs of company policy or contacts in that direction.

SD cards are expensive and could be new surprise if Saygus went into some agreement with SanDisc to promote huge storage making SanDisc promoter of Saygus and Saygus promotor of SanDisc. I doubt there are some other expenses Saygus made while launching first batch at that price. I'm quite sure they didn't buy those cards for first 1000 users.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Please make it for the first 2500 users. (because my number is #2176) :D
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Hell, make it 5000.
[Saygus V²] t3chfan:
Seriously?

The 200gb micro SD card has not even been launched yet, and will be sold for £220 on Amazon.

SanDisk are a business, doing very well for themselves. Should the V2 see the light of day then the owners of this device are very likely to want to buy 2 * 200gb cards to experiment with / show off. Let's say 5000 of the pre-orders are shipped with a single 200gb card, as has been hypothesised, this would equal over one million £ of lost revenue.

Simply not going to happen.

Peace out... :cool:
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Tx for claryfication.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
SD card is just my imagination because the price is expensive as you say. :)

I keep on thinking the possibilities of secret.
[Saygus V²] porkandbeans:
Ok, I want the 200gb SanDisk micro sd cards for my preordered V2, but I don't want to spend another 800 bucks making it happen. Here's hoping for some sort of Sandisk discount!
[Saygus V²] strikelight:
Just curious, this close in, without a final product, how is the device going to pass through the FCC so quickly in time for may 22?
[Saygus V²] field893:
Hello,

What do I think the secret of Saygus : a unique commercial gesture for our fidelity to this supersmartphone-- " transport payments " for all.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
One more guess. What about if Saygus deliver to us without letting us know and we all receive on May 22?
[Saygus V²] slowpok22:
Thank you for your support, you are our foundation, as I sit on the beach in Croatia, with no extradition we really appreciate you sticking with us!

Now that is an exciting move ?

Thanks from the Saygus team.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
I am still waiting for an answer on this from support.

I asked about this via chat. I received the same answer as for everything, "I have created a ticket for your question. You should have a response within 24-48 hours"
[Saygus V²] hella356:
I didn't see that. That suggests that they'll be on board with TMo as a carrier, which I would love. Not sure if I can hold out long enough to see that happen, my battered GS4 might not hold out that long. I might be stuck with getting a 128GB S6. Not like I'd be suffering with an S6, but I hope I can check out the V2 before I'm forced to upgrade. C'mon, Saygus!
[Saygus V²] strikelight:
When was that? Let us know when they answer.

Thanks!
[Saygus V²] mbfdias:
I think saygus bold move is going to be another delay in delivering the v2... Has to be, otherwise why the silent treatment...
[Saygus V²] Omegaclawe:
Non-disclosure Agreement, most likely. Could also potentially be because whatever they're announcing isn't finished, but chances are they wouldn't be stopping pre-orders in that case.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Once I receive it, I will post their reply.
[Saygus V²] MikeyMike01:
Why do people keep saying this? It's comically inaccurate.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
805, 808 and 810 are out for quite some time. Yes, they are overheating, and becoming slow after few seconds. I would also agree that 801 is the right way to go. But most of the people don't research. Otherwise they wouldn't be buying so many iPhones. :D

I am talking from marketing point of view. New solution will be out. And it will be soon. 801 is outdated for a flagship. I would rather have it on my phone than 810, but 801 just wouldn't sell. And with lower selling score Saygus will not have that kind of start. Just a bad moment I suppose. Not talking quality here. It is about timing and marketing.
[Saygus V²] saantiago:
I'd rather have the 808 IMO.
[Saygus V²] BtotheT:
Correct, the 808 is the top Snapdragon atm, the biggest win processor wise would be Exynos 7420 currently, though that's very highly unlikely(Samsung produced).

As to the Secret announcement I'd most enjoy a major carrier adoption for multiple reasons, first of all functionality, secondly bug correction punctualness, finally I'd love to see it become a legacy device with a V^3 a couple/few years from now.

My fingers are crossed for Verizon as that's my current carrier and the one by which the first Saygus phone was granted approval(whitelisted), either Tmo or even At&t would work for me as well.

I'd love to receive the phone by the 25-26th(shortly after my birthday)

*Fingers crossed* :fingers-crossed:

Cheers:victory:
[Saygus V²] rammjet:
Questions about FCC approval. Been doing some Googling.

Requires approval according to FCC CFR 47 part 15 and labelled per part 2. Testing is done at an independent lab. It takes about 2 weeks. It costs around $5000. The lab submits information to the FCC. The company requesting the certification (ie Saygus) submits info to the FCC. Many labs are authorized to issue the certificate once approved by the FCC. The company may request that the FCC keep items confidential per 47 CFR 0.459.

For the Saygus V1, they used a certification company in Taiwan. You can find the items Saygus submitted for the V1 including the testing report, photos and a user manual (and a request for confidentiality) by performing the following Google search (I don't think I'm yet able to post links).

Google Search: FCC Equipment Authorization Search

For "Applicant Name", enter: Saygus

In results, click on links found in left 4 columns.

Information found at several sites, but a good summary of the process is found by Googling: Digikey The FCC Road: Part 15 from Concept to Approval
[Saygus V²] MadBob:
Isn't that FCC stuff about the v1 in 2009?
[Saygus V²] tightos:
I was wondering the same thing.....
[Saygus V²] rammjet:
Yes, but it is interesting to look at what was required to be submitted. If it doesn't interest you, then don't look.

The point was that it takes about 2 weeks for the certification. We are supposedly 2 weeks away from shipment. Certification must either be complete or well on its way. The certification is only for the radios (not cameras or fingerprint scanner, etc) , so if they had a good prototype phone case with the final radios, they could have submitted a device for certification a while ago and meanwhile are working out various minor details for production of the final phone.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
If anyone is interested...

Hello. My name is Samuel Rhodes, How can i help you today?

Client

When is the big secret to be announced?

Samuel Rhodes

Sorry but I am not provided with a definite date. Please watch out for these updates on our site in the coming days

Client

Before shipment?

Samuel Rhodes

Yes, we currently doing a major development on our site and the updates will posted very soon

Client

Thanks
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Did some homework on the FCC stuff myself,and had little luck.

Saygus' official legal business name is "American Smartphone INC." which makes it a really ambiguous search term when trying to find information about it via FCC and such. I decided to check for trademark, the V2 (which is an ambiguous search term itself) is trademarked under "American Smartphone INC" and listed a legal representative from Georgia/Florida that filed that trademark and tried to cross reference from there but no luck. My guess is, if they have FCC certs they have it hidden under a different name or waiting last minute to preserve trade secrets. They could have a confidentiality agreement with the FCC, but usually the actual confidentially agreement is public, but have not found that either.
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Dude, call me crazy but that level of secrecy and sheltering is insane from a company that's never even produced a product. Apple sure, but Saygus?
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
So your best call is- they will simply not ship on time?
[Saygus V²] Purest:
I hear the big announcement is another 2 month wait and for the ones that want to wait they'll throw in a case that retails at $149.99 USD, anyone hear that?
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Please don't spread false information like this.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
Only you...
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
My only other idea is that maybe they reached a retail agreement with a large store such as best buy.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
that wouldn't be much of a surprise for us.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
You are correct but I don't recall them ever saying it was a surprise OR for us. They said they have a secret and have no more pre-orders until it's announced. Per the email "Our goal is to utilize this campaign to amp up our awareness and distribution and make it easier for people around the world to have access to the Saygus V²." This leads me to believe the announcement is more about future customers than current.
[Saygus V²] tightos:
Did some research on the WiHD device......here is the info.:

http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=MQ4-VM331R&id=570747#axzz3ZmCaluQv

http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=MQ4-VM331R&id=570747#axzz3ZmCaluQv

I saw some mention of it was made on this thread (Pg. 114) as: http://www.abocom.com.tw/product.aspx?id=170

http://www.abocom.com.tw/product.aspx?id=170

The model number was found on the WiHD device itself.

View attachment 3306425

Photography credit: Andreas Erhard

http://dev.erhard.cc/saygusV2
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
something i do not understand is the company reps spend a lot of time apologizing for lack of communication and a promise to do better in the future while at the same time revamping the website which seems to have stripped away roughly ~80%~ of the information that use to be on the site. a new customer would learn very little.

right now there is not much info on the site. maybe the revamp work is still in progress.
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
I think the shop has been pulled down from the site to update it with all of the accessories and extras.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
That'd be pretty awesome if so.
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
I cant see why else they would remove the store from the website. We know the extras should be coming soon so it only makes sense.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
I think they're getting ready to pull the old stink-a-roo on us! Take our money and run. Oh, we've moved all your money to an of shore account, thanks for your support. C-yah!

Not sure what they have up their sleeve right now, but it sure does make me leerie?
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
Honestly, they are probably really busy atm, especially if they are opening up accessory sales.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Another theory is that, they pulled the phone off the shelf because they have a contract with another company. Something like, "we will sell v2 from our store as long as you do not sell it elsewhere including your own website."
[Saygus V²] minatour44:
suprise

I dont suppose that the surprise is related to the the 13mp front camera (overkill?) and the Saygus is a pioneer in the video compression sector. Chad Sayers - TechLounge Tag 2 - CeBIT 2015 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFoR34a_tmU) , some competition beating video conference thingy?? video calling? i agree this doesn't explain the website down, which is more likely accessories or carrier announcement.
[Saygus V²] tightos:
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=GQNMDF55EMTWN

Hey guys and gals........I am in no way trying to be silly, unreasonable, or to pressure anyone, our friend Andreas Erhard has put up a link after much convincing on his website where donations are accepted on his behalf.

He has played an important role in getting information to us about the Saygus V2, even so much as to surpass Saygus' efforts in MY opinion.

I am grateful to him for all he has done and although he mentioned numerous times that he did everything on his own free will.......I have chosen to make a 5 EURO donation (5.77 US) to his PayPal account, simply as a gesture of thanks.

If you can afford it and wish to also express your gratitude, please do not hesitate to show it.

Please leave ALL negative comments out of this post and remember that NO ONE IS OBLIGED TO MAKE A DONATION.

Cheers Andreas! Thanks for your continuous hard work and dedication to OUR cause!
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
I also second you.
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
It'd make sense to take down the store in prep for adding accessories, but what reason is there to take down the FAQ? A lot of the nitty-gritty details (bands, battery capacity, etc) are no longer listed on the site.

EDIT: Actually, it's still up, but they removed the link to it from the homepage. Have to Google to get it now :/
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
well one thing is consistent in their communication: they are silent for a while but then they try to make up for it in a a single day (twitter).
[Saygus V²] vertigo_2_20:
A bit off-topic, but you could do multifocal contacts, monovision with the contacts, or over-the-counter readers over the contacts. Not trying to say you shouldn't get a bigger phone if that's what works for you, just offering possible things that might help. Personally, I use my phone a lot for calls, texting, videos, browsing, gaming...pretty much everything. And I prefer an ~5" screen size, as anything bigger is just too big to hold and manipulate comfortably. Though it's really an issue of the phone size, not the screen size, as the LG G3 (and presumably G4, though I haven't really looked) is roughly the size of a 5" phone despite its 5.5" screen.
[Saygus V²] hdtechk:
Or since you have android phone go into settings change text size and high contrast text
[Saygus V²] porkandbeans:
Saygus V2 prediction: It will be a huge hit! So much that many other mobile phone manufacturers will start adding WiHD to their phones, AND I predict that after witnessing the worldwide phenomenon known as the Saygus V2, other Android phone manufacturers will start putting micro sd card slots in their phones. It is my opinion that micro sd card slots benefit the consumer, regardless of what some other android manufacturers want you to believe. If you have 2 identical phones, except 1 has a micro sd slot and the other does not, but they are identical in every other way, I would choose the phone with the micro sd slot because it only adds to the phone. The Saygus V2 is setting a new bar in both innovation, and giving consumers what we really want! Android is about choice and the V2 embodies what many consumers want, not what we are told we want. Rock on Saygus!!
[Saygus V²] alexanseris:
"AND I predict that after witnessing the worldwide phenomenon known as the Saygus V2, other Android phone manufacturers will start putting micro sd card slots in their phone"

What are you talking about ????

So Saygus will be the first phone manufacturer that will put micro SD card in their phone ???????

Your statement looks like a paid advertisement by Saygus ... Seriously, We know nothing about this phone yet. It is only a list off specs on a paper. Just wait and see before glorifying something that no one tried before
[Saygus V²] porkandbeans:
Lol. To clarify what I mean: Samsung dropped SD cards on their latest incarnation and what I am saying is that once the Saygus V2 has astronomical sales which will go right through the roof, other manufactures will do what they can to input Saygus's winning phone formula. This will lead to micro sd cards, to make a return to more phone manufactures. Please do not mistake my pure excitement for a product that I feel is both game changing, and exactly what I have been waiting for as anything other than true glee. I preordered and soon I shall have my dream phone. Please don't knock me for being happy and optimistic.
[Saygus V²] post_break:
I don't mean to crap on the V2 but with the G4 dropping I'm glad I cancelled. It seems to just crush the V2 out of the gate. Swappable battery, QI, quick charge, 64 bit, faster gpu, storage speeds that are worlds faster, and supports the biggest SD card you can put into it up to 2TB if that ever comes out. Oh and it's not shipping with kitkat.

I really wanted the V2 to be my next phone but I still haven't seen a gold master phone, does a final product phone even exist?
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
LG G3 and G4 have similar /better specs. They also have a more feasible storage limit 128gb sd card. The HTC One M9 has external storage.

What does Saygus really bring, which is new and innovative to classify it as astronomical?

LOL. The V2 is the Loch Ness monster of the cell phone world
[Saygus V²] porkandbeans:
I think that the G4 is a good phone, but to answer your questions regarding why I think the Saygus V2 sales will be astronomical are:

1. WiHD. Many people out there have demonstrated that they enjoy displaying content from their phone onto other screens, i.e. the huge number of people who have purchased Chromecasts, or those who use MHL adapters. With WiHD, I can share my screen in HD, with minimal lag and without using WiFi to do it. This is a huge plus for me!

2. Sony IMX230 camera sensor on the rear 21mp camera, and OIS on both cameras. Google the sensor information and be truly amazed at its capabilities. Pictures and videos are gonna be awesome, which brings me to...

3. Two micro sd slots. I enjoy having plenty of room for media content on my device, for pictures, videos, phone back ups, and anything else want to store. To me, this is a plus.

4. Boot from micro sd support, vanilla android, stereo speakers, and water resistant technology. This makes the phone rock!

5. Quick Charge 2.0, wireless charging, and removable battery.

6. Worldwide band support. This means that whatever carrier you go with, you can use your Saygus V2.

So to answer your question, all of these things will make the Saygus V2 sales astronomical. Is anyone else out there excited about this?
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
V2 and G4 both have swappable batteries (V2's battery slightly bigger), QI, quick charging, and support up to 2TB microSD (as long as you format it correctly).

Why does 64bit actually matter? Both phones have 3GB RAM, which is the max supported by a 32bit OS (and being a phone, you can't upgrade the RAM).

Can't comment on storage speeds yet, as neither product is out and reviewed yet.

Shipping with KK with L following right behind it is great. Gives people a choice of which OS version to use. (I don't want to move to L just yet, too many application compatibility problems.)

The only things that crush the V2 are the CPU/GPU (I don't know how well the 808 stacks up heat-wise, but the 805 and 810 both start overheating and perform worse than the 801 at long periods of time), screen size (I find 5.5in too big for me, personally), and screen resolution (2K is nice, but doesn't seem necessary at 5in).

On the flip-side, the V2 has better cameras (both front and back), multiple microSD slots (multiboot), WiHD, and is unlocked and has more cell bands.

To each their own, though! :)
[Saygus V²] tocirah1:
I just want to point out that I highly doubt the V2 will have better cameras than the LG G4.
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
Many phones have great camera hardware, but fail because of software. I would wait until it's released or in the hands of reviewers before you get excited about the camera (cough m9).
[Saygus V²] ryan49ryan:
V2 Limiting The Compromise

For me at least, what sets the V2 (or should I say "THE HYPOTHETICAL PHONE FROM SAYGUS THAT MIGHT SHIP MAY 22") apart from other more recent flagships, isn't it's key specs, but the overall collection of what they've added. Yes there are phones with better key specs such as RAM, CPU and Screen Resolution. I won't put a ton of emphasis on the Snapdragon 801 vs 808 as that seems to be an area of great debate, Yes 808 may be a little better, but not generational leap, and with the problems on the 810 I think the 801 is perfect. Comparing it to other phones, do they have removable batteries? Some do, some don't. How about being waterproof? Then again some are, but then they don't have removable batteries. As far as screen resolutions goes, yes more pixels can marginally improve the screen's appearance, but if you can't see the screen in sunlight, wouldn't you rather a screen that looks almost as good 100% of the time? They seem to be really excited about WiHD, seeing as that sums up roughly 90% of the demos Saygus has given us so far. It will no doubt come in handy, and just adds one more extra feature that sweetens the deal. Cameras, I really hope they nail the software, hardware wise they have the best of the best to work with on both the front and back, along with OIS and a hardware shutter button to boot. Having one SD card slot on my next phone was a must for me, two is just a bonus. My current phone, a 16GB Xiaomi mi2 tells me daily that I am running out of space and, no you can't update that app cause you are out of room, I hope to never see a message like that ever again. Other features like the front facing speakers, Qi wireless charging, IR blaster, light sensors, fingerprint scanner, and triple microphones just add to an already amazing package. You can look at all the phones currently available and yes, you will find phones that have all these features, just not in one single package, thus you must compromise on something. For me, the V2 offers the least amount of compromise out of all current flagships available.

After reading my post I had a good laugh, people are going to probably rip on me as well claiming that I am a paid Saygus supporter. Think about it though, If I worked for Saygus how many typos would be in that post? :p
[Saygus V²] tocirah1:
Any news if the phone will support QuickCharge 2.0? The chipset supports it, but evidently it requires some form of software support.
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
https://www.saygus.com/v2-2/ in Power : Quick Charge 2.0
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
It won't. Don't worry, that's not speculation on your part.

I love me some expandable storage, but can we all stop acting like we're going to go out and buy 2TB SD cards for our phone? It's kind of a pretentious argument.