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[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
What a ridiculously absurd statement that carries absolutely zero merit. If you truly believe that, you're completely miseducated on what a supply-and-demand economy is relative to superfluous consumer goods. Your statement ONLY holds true on things people require, like food, shelter, and water.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
As you have already cancelled your order becoming 100% sure that they won't deliver the phone and even if they deliver it would be a nontested-imperfect phone,what is necessity of your repeated posting of negations here ?
[Saygus V²] prasathvishnu:
I heard about Saygus v2 only by March 1st. Before trying for a pre-order, I have raised a ticket to ask some basic questions. I also asked if I can avail the pre-order freebies.

I got a reply couple of days back.

1) I was told I can still use the preorder code and I will get the freebies.

I have not decided about the pre-order. But, I was happy that they extended the pre-order freebies to me too :)
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
Anyone have a coupon code for me ? :D
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
If I am not wrong, coupon code is "v2preorder" without quotes.
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
You are correct. I checked my old email. It isn't supposed to work any more though.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
I think it is until Feb 2 or Feb 7 only. I forgot to put it when I made order and I need to pay $599 without Screen Protector and Extra Battery. :(
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
How did that demand seed? The market or customer found out that they have a need/want for that product through marketing strategies. How is marketing not manipulative?
[Saygus V²] prasathvishnu:
You apply and you will get "Applied". But, if you proceed further and just before you make payment you will get a message saying like "Coupon removed as we could not associate with your account"... Something of that sort.

So, basically, unless you have registered, it will not go through. Mail them or raise a ticket. They might make the coupon work for you.
[Saygus V²] Windswept7:
Marketing IS an attempt at manipulating opinion and motivation towards an idea or product, however it isn't always a bad thing, people can be manipulated into appreciating something that they might otherwise overlook or not even be aware of. It can also be a highly effective method of education, by manipulating ignorance into knowledge.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I don't feel being a pawn to a company or an economic/political system that uses marketing strategies that attempt at manipulating the opinion and motivation towards an idea of product a bad thing.
[Saygus V²] Soltkemecsei:
Pleasant support ticket experience

A few days ago I mentioned that I have not received the shipping update email. I suspected it can be because I made two preorders and cancelled one of them, possibly causing my email being removed from the mailing list. (For the first attempt I did not have my credit card token with me, and on the next day I started a new order as there were no any sign that I already have another oder in my cart, which I cancelled later, when logging in later.)

I have opened a support ticket and asked them to look into the issue as it might affect other customers. The ticket was handled quickly and professionally, well done Saygus. ;)

"Your first order (1xxx) was cancelled without any payment, but your second order (1xxx) is good. It will be processed as soon as the manufacturing is done.

Thanks for the heads up on the email database. You’re totally right. Because your first order was cancelled your email address had a cancelled flag and you didn’t receive the notification email for “current” customers. Thank you for letting me know. We will get this fixed for everyone thanks to you."
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
I got a reply from Saygus. I am currently at work and cannot post now. I will update later.

Edited:

To answer your question:

Currently, the phone will come with a charging kit and a glass protective screen. We are evaluating other options including an affordable WiHD receiver, high end earbuds, back case with a kickstand, Qi charger and more.

We officially announce our shipping date as May 22, 2015.

In exchange for your patience, and to say thank you, we will offer all of our current customers an added bonus. Customers will receive a complimentary SqGl (pronounced “Squiggle”) headset—a $229 retail value—as a FREE accessory. Building the V² is like conducing a symphony with all its parts coming together in harmony—we want it to be perfect. As an additional note, the antenna engineering issues have been addressed and we are now preparing to move into mass production soon.

We understand that some of you may be concerned about this updated status and want you to know that we will support you in a refund request, if that is your preference. Although, we hope you will stay with us to benefit from the savings and receive our high-end SqGl earbuds.

We value your support and continue to appreciate your patience as we approach the shipping date of this remarkable world-leading smartphone!

Sincerely,

The Saygus Team
[Saygus V²] Faultier80:
And now it have atp-x on board ore not ? I have an gamecom backbeat pro headset so this codec from the producter is one must have (same white sd slot) !

The support after 2 weeks and 2 messages say nothing about and sleep ...... :mad:
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
To finally answer your question: aptX support won't be included in this version of the device.

See: http://dev.erhard.cc/saygusV2/visit_cebit2015

BTW: You find my small review of the V² manufacturing smaple at the CeBIT here: http://dev.erhard.cc/saygusV2/visit_cebit2015/review
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
Very nice review

Thanks and waiting for the final one:):good:
[Saygus V²] Mokele Mbembe:
For some reason that reminded me of Sqigle INC, the company that promised Earl tablet for outdoor use long time ago, keeps postponing its release and has big communicating issues. I hope there is no relationship.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
I had registered for the pre-order, but never went through with the purchase. I tried the v2preorder code last week, and it didn't work. I opened up a support ticket asking if I could still get in on the preorder deal, and they allowed it. My order number for those keeping track is #7567. I hope their first production run is at least 10,000 units. The tone of their email was really friendly, so if anybody is still looking to get the preorder deal just ask them nicely.

I'm pretty excited about this phone. I was waiting to hear any rumors if the Oneplus Two would be smaller, but after their Reddit AMA it doesn't look like it.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
How much you paid for your order?
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Alright, May 22nd isn't getting here any faster :(
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Its $50 off plus you get the extra goodies.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I was excited about the oneplus two until I read thr the invite system is still in place, no thanks.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
Not to change the subject, but I've been looking into the ZTE Z9 Max and Mini. It's been getting a lot of attention. http://www.androidcentral.com/zte-officially-announces-nubia-z9-max-and-z9-mini http://www.cnet.com/products/zte-nubia-z9-max/

It's still no Saygus V2, but it's not a bad unit for the price.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
It looks nice, but by "mini" I think they're only referring to the specs. I want a 5-inch or less phone with premium innards. If Moto had kept the form factor of the 2013 Moto X in the 2nd gen. it would have been the perfect phone for me. I had the Sony Z3c for about three weeks, but it was laggy, slipperier than butter on a hot pan, and the radio was weak.

I know it's a risk buying the Saygus, but I'm always rooting for the underdog, and I'm willing to give them a shot. In California we have 30 days to return a product, so after a month of testing if I don't like it I'll return to my Moto X (2014).
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
Saygus V² in french press (Le Figaro) :)
[Saygus V²] sonwon:
And these all have non removable batteries, no go.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
There is a girl/woman called Alicia de Leon in Facebook Saygus group. Some of you are probably not keeping track there. She says she works for Saygus. I dug up two interesting comments from her:

1. Alicia De Leon: "All already handled and the phones may ship a bit sooner than May 22nd, we are working really hard to get them out sooner...stay tuned."

2. Alicia De Leon: " The official ship date is still May 22nd, however Chad said today it may be sooner hopefully. I'll do my best to keep you posted. "

Perhaps we have the opposite approach now: I bet that May 22nd is SAFE date for them. They are 100% sure they can deliver by then. If it comes sooner- we might see it as bonus.

No matter what- these comments are suggesting evident progress.

:D
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
According to the internets she is the Senior Shareholder Relations Executive at Saygus, INC. Sounds like shes head of PR.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I had a feeling they push the date to be safe then pull it back if possible to seem like the hero. That information isn't giving me any hopeful feelings though.

---------- Post added at 05:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:06 PM ----------

They actually have someone head of PR?
[Saygus V²] vikramkhalsa:
Totally agree with you, I reallyyyy wished moto kept the same form factor of the 2013 moto x. It was perfect. Moto x 2014 is great but I would still prefer smaller. Really hoping saygus pulls through.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
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Saygus engineers solved antenna issues and they are starting mass production soon.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
I^^how about the camera issues, have they figured that out before they start shopping? Be nice to see the cameras in action?
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Sony camera will be available in April. Now, end of March and we can believe about mass production soon :)
[Saygus V²] noyoof:
#~

PLease can we get a full dedicated dev team on this phone?:D
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
That would be great. I've been on lollipop so long it's going to be so annoying going back to 4.4 for God only knows how long with this phone.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
I have asking the same here repeatedly!
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Sure it's nice to have a dedicated dev team for the Saygus v2, but that's nothing you can control yourself. Developers have to come by their own, unless you're going to raise money and pay someone. :D

It's impossible to tell, if there will be five or hundred ROMs, but I'm almost 100% sure, that there will be some ROMs soon.

You should wait until the phone gets released first, before you ask for developers. Nobody of us is a wizard here and thus nobody can make a working ROM/mod for an unreleased phone... ;)
[Saygus V²] sonwon:
Hopefully there will be zero bloatware.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
OK,I agree with you that there might be some ROMs hope for the same.But I don't agree with your remark that nobdy among us is a wizard here .There might be someone for sure.And ofcourse they can make a working ROM possibly based on LP. And that is exactly I expected in post a ROM after the release of the phone.I know it is an inhuman task to release a custom ROM for an unreleased ROM by anyone other than the official software personnel.

Thank you Andreas for your reply.
[Saygus V²] BtotheT:
Why are there soo many trolls?

I myself and very excited to get an epic phone with more features than any other offers out there.

Spoiled whiners, and

PR trolls

from other firms.

This Phone :victory::cool::good:

Some of these posts :crying::silly::rolleyes::eek:
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
I recently noticed that Saygus have offered other colour options:

http://www2.marketwire.com/mw/frame_mw?attachid=2775220

Has anyone asked when these may be available?
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
It's just the back plate. Hopefully we'll be able to easily buy them. I want green.
[Saygus V²] s-lps3:
To answer your question:

You shouldn’t have a problem with that. You can very easily remove the back cover of the V² for easy access to the battery, SD card slots, etc. With that being said, you can easily use the back covers interchangeably whenever you want to whatever color you want! If we do sell the back covers on our website, which I think is a great idea, and I will refer that to the team!

This is the answer I got from a Saygus rep
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I asked if they had any other OFFICIAL colors maybe 2 weeks ago on Twitter. They replied they hadn't decided on any official ones yet but they did not they are getting a lot of requests for red.
[Saygus V²] Jan de Mor:
Still with hope that my V2 will come... but if not, ZTE Z9 Max, Huawei Honor 6+ or Elephone P7000 are not bad options and cheaper units. I discard other flagships like Sony Z4 or LG G4 cause it's much more money. Just wanna invest 550$ for V2, otherwise I'm sorry but chinese options are getting every time more interesting. While I'm waiting I Just bought a Jiayu S3 and I'm impressed with that phone, couldn't be happier. Hope to repeat sensations in june with my brand new Saygus!!! :D
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
54 days left for scheduled ship. I said I wasn't going to stalk this forum- but I've been here every day since pre-register.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Thank you for sharing the message with us.It was highly helpful.
[Saygus V²] sonwon:
The Jiayu S3 looks interesting, although I think it maybe to large for me. More important, outside in the sunlight on a very sunny day, how view-able is the screen?
[Saygus V²] Jan de Mor:
Quite good! Right now I'm writing outdoors and it's perfect. We will see in summer, with total sunlight... But the screen is surpringsingly bright
[Saygus V²] sonwon:
Need "need total sunlight" measure since my S3 is okay outside until total sunlight.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
just crossed my mind: sharp edge at the bottom of the phone might be sensitive to falls. No matter how hard the material is - if it is thin - it breaks or at least chips. It would be smart to have some sort of mask that rounds that piece of the phone. Anyone found some case already? Cables and screen protectors "specially for Saygus" are already out there. Chinese rippofers work fast. :)
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Please see this posted in G+ Saygus site.

Dave Knight (KnightofScorpio)

Accessories - 12:11 AM

#HTC

Random, but... XtremeGuard has screen protectors available for the Saygus V^2. If anybody was actually interested, they also have a 75% off everything sale. I used it when I thought I was gonna get a HTC One M9. lol﻿

Xtreme Guard Screen Protectors

xtremeguard.com
[Saygus V²] rseifer:
Silicone Bumper

I've always found it easy to locate soft silicone bumper cases on eBay & Amazon, and they're generally in the range of $2-4, and quite easy to install or remove. I presently use a Moto G with a bumper on it, and that seems to be adequate protection for a small bump or short drop to the ground. I'll do the same with the V2 when (if) it arrives. Ralph L. Seifer, Long Beach, California.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I wonder if those cases will affect functionality of the antenna and fingerprint scanner?
[Saygus V²] BtotheT:
I'm not sure why we're discussing cases with gorilla glass 4 and a metal/kevlar frame. Beyond that I really feel like you are the troll of this forum which comes out and gnaws on everyone's ankles with every opportunity they provide.:silly:

A simple google search achieved validation to my assumption that you work for a competitor, in this case the 1+1.

And I qoute; "A huge thank you to [MENTION=6417622]Boom515[/MENTION] , I got an invite half hour ago and ordered a 1+1. "

So Buzz Off Troll.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I shared my shareable invites after I got my 1+1, which is what I have now and what I'm buying a v2 to replace. More research (just on this forum) would have told you that. Nice try moron. I am looking forward to the V2 and have tried to encourage patience and positive contributions to this forum. But calling me a troll as you Google my handle, classy. But you joined the blog 2 whole days ago and clearly have every right to tell me to leave.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Well done Boom515.Just say more to the trollers.They deserve it.
[Saygus V²] mikemaddux:
Why I like the v-squared

What I especially like about what Saygus is doing with this device is that they are favoring function over external prettiness. For instance, my current phone is a very nice looking HCT One M8. Its case is made of aluminum and is delicately curved and brushed. Since it would be a shame to allow that beautiful exterior to be damaged, I've put a case on it, and I've hidden the beautiful case. So why did I bother even caring about the case in the first place?

With the V-Squared you have the back and front protected by kevlar, a very durable material. The back is textured and slightly curved, and the phone isn't too thin, so it's easy to grasp and feels secure in your hand. It's sort of like the phone is its own case. Not only that, but it appears that it will be easy to replace the back plate just in case you do manage to put a gash in it.

When you consider that people generally use these things in the real world, not letting them sit in a display case in a museum, it doesn't really make sense to have your device be a beautiful but delicate piece of handheld jewelry.

There are other practical touches, for instance the screen to body ratio. For me at least this is practical when I'm wearing pants whose pockets aren't so big. Here are the numbers for a few current phones.

HTC One M9 = 68.52 %

Galaxy S6 = 70.48 %

IPhone 6 = 65.71%

V2 = 75.7 %

The v-squared wins, and by a significant amount, I think.

Another practical choice - the pixel density. Saygus went with 441 ppi versus 577 ppi Super Amoled, used in the Galaxy S6. For some people maybe the higher pixel density is important. For me the extra battery life wins big time.

There are more examples, but I imagine I'm preaching to the choir!

So that's why I'm really pulling for this company to come through.

Mike
[Saygus V²] MadBob:
Not sure why talking about cases makes you as troll? I will be looking for a see through plastic case, not so much to protect the phone, but to allow my sticky pad to hold the phone in place in my car, the back of the phone not being smooth will probably stop this.

Unless there is a QI charging pad that will somehow hold the phone? The sticky rubber pads are prefect for holding the phone vertically on the fascia of the car, unless TomTom doesn't work of course :)
[Saygus V²] BtotheT:
Just because I've only written 2 days ago doesn't mean I haven't read it for months(finally annoyed enough by whiners and trolls to comment). Every time a new topic is brought up you leap at it with doubts, in this case whether a case will reduce function. As ALWAYS a poorly designed case will, and one made correctly will not, as with any phone.

As to MadBob, I'd think kevlar in the checkered depth pattern will grip a 'sticky pad' just fine. Depends on the granulation of the 'sticky pad' and whether the proper static friction can be achieved.
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
Not sure why I initially brushed off this phone when it was first revealed (maybe I thought it didn't have a removable battery), but looking at some of the more recent hands-on videos, it looks to be the device for me.

Love: 5in screen (perfect), 1080p, Kitkat (L not stable enough yet), dual microSD, removable battery, GSM+CDMA with all the important US LTE bands

Like: 3GB RAM, 64GB onboard storage, Multiboot, kevlar/metal construction, good cameras, dedicated camera button, front facing stereo speakers

Indifferent: wireless HD, fingerprint scanner, IR blasters, waterproof, external antenna (does it really work?)

Don't like: SD801, the large V2 logo in the corner, it's not out yet!

Wish: SD805 or 810 instead, off-screen buttons of some sort (maybe optional like the OPO)

The positives far outweigh those couple of negatives for me (801 is fine for almost everything but isn't really futureproof, I'll get use to the logo), but I'm not going to preorder one, juuuust in case. I'll wait until they send actual units out to various phone review sites and start shipping it out to customers.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
By then the cost will be raised,I think.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
I was talking about these edges- not about screen:

What do you think?

If the angle of impact is right it wouldn't take much force to make damage.
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
Any news regards the camera sample?
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I leap at it with doubt? It was a simple question because I don't know that much about the fractal Antenna and you don't know either. I've done nothing but support saygus with my money and my words. Please get your facts straight before you try cast aspersions. Accusing me of being a 1+1 employee was one of the dumbest things I've ever read.
[Saygus V²] theleftykid:
My interest on this phone becomes lesser and lesser that I don't even care anymore about the updates of the development. I feel like it's already an old phone to me. Hopefully I will still going to like the phone when I can have a grip on it.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
Probably delayed due to sensor switch?
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
I can confirm that xtremegaurd is a poor product but it's cheap so if you go there get extras for replacement after short life span.

Sent from my LG-D850
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
So sorry TonyStark.Seeing it on the official Saygus G+ site I thought this cover is a a quality one.Again sorry please if I have misguided anyone.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
Xtreme is a Utah company like Saygus so it makes sense that they are partnering for accessories.

Sent from my LG-D850
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I'm just hoping the phone is strong enough on it's own without the need of cases/protectors. I already got glass screen protector, battery and ear buds coming for me. Only thing I'll need is wireless HD adapter.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Are you sure, that the G+ page is official? The only official social media I know is their Twitter account.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Also, does anyone know what these tweets are about?

https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/582159820523905024

https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/582160481319669760
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Not sure, they posted it twice and I couldn't find his corresponding comment. Odd.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Maybe the OP deleted his original tweet? I'll ask him and see what happens.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Let's hope you get a reply back :)
[Saygus V²] ryan49ryan:
I believe I saw that those were regarding a tweet someone made that they should send out weekly email updates about progress.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
No, that was my tweet. I've seen no reply. I sent that in reply to the mentioned tweets.
[Saygus V²] ryan49ryan:
Ah okay, that was the only thing I saw that looked like it was related to what they answered. The weekly updates would be very good to have though in order to calm everyone down!
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
its might an update on next Monday about the final progress i hope :)
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Sorry please.I thought so.Thank you for correcting me.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
So far, it hasn't turned into anything, so I wouldn't get my hopes up. It might just be a support request. I'm just hungry for more news about my V2!
[Saygus V²] t3chfan:
Getting seriously low on patience now, especially as the Zenfone 2 seems to be imminent in Europe, 64 bit SoC and 4gb RAM, removable battery, sd card, much cheaper etc.

Albeit I'm a little unsure about 5.5 inch screen, but I'm sure these things are reasonably easy to get acclimatised to.

Will wait and see what the hands on reviews of the ZF2 are like and evaluate my standpoint. As a previous poster said, every week that passes is a week less spectacular the V2 looks.

All it would take is weekly updates from Saygus but these information blackouts only serve to worry people off.

Stupid conspiracy alert: what if saygus know they can't manufacture as many units as have been pre-ordered, and are waiting for enough people to cancel before they can start shipping?