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[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Makes me think that the "engineering model" they have at the office only has the one feature working. Could have at least unlocked it with the fingerprint scanner as someone mentioned earlier. But at the very least we have to wonder if they were really "on the assembly line"
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
it sorta depends on how much of the muck left by the old partner the new partner wants to work with. could be looking at weeks or could be looking at months. in any event it is now bubbling to the surface that some un-named company is making the phone for saygus. this new p.r. partner has yet to wean the clowns off twitter. until that happens i do not see much hope in changing the direction of the overall poor image problem that is developing. saygus needs to start laying out their case in properly spelled words within correctly formed sentences that have content greater than the limitations of twitter. saygus seems to be floundering in a reactionary state right now. they have been hard pressed off of the game plan that they had at one point. it's a great test of management which i think they lack but instead of things unfolding according to plan they are now reacting to things.
[Saygus V²] MadBob:
Twitter:

1. Quality assurance issues with manufacturing partner caused us to secure a new manufacturing partnership.

2. Original production schedule was expected to stay the same. The transition has caused some delays.

3. Our new partner has built award-winning, high-end smartphones for Fortune 500 companies.

4. We've teamed up with a world class marketing agency to ensure our communications, like our phone, are top of the line.

5. Your loyalty matters. To provide the 'superphone' u expect, we delayed shipping to ensure the phone is awesome even tho the delay is not.

6. Lastly, we launched our new branding yesterday as promised. What do you think of it?

#1 #2 #3 -The way I read it is, the initial delay was the manufacturer move and it just wasn't ready by 22nd.

Otherwise if they are NOW moving manufacturer it will be a massive delay, and I'm not sure I will be along for the ride by then, depends if anything comes out that interests me (S6 Active is interesting me).

#4 they really need, look at how Pebble keep customers up to date, photos of production teams, staff images, WIP updates.

#5 FYI

#6 Branding change is of little interest to me, old logo = 1980's meh, new logo = better, V on front screen is too big, but I prefer it to the old one, however I would have been happy with either as long as the phone is ok.
[Saygus V²] UnicornKaz:
I like the old one actually :)

the way I see it... they are both the same ...here's how ...

The new logo is the letter "S" that you look at straight on (

flat looking

)

The OLD logo is better ( IMHO ) because

IT'S THE SAME LETTER "S"

... but it's "

TILTED

" on the Z axis so it represent "3D" POV.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=60907520&postcount=2932

think of the logo on a circle ( paper, bottle cap, a dollar coin ...etc ) ... it's the same letter "S" ... just "

tilted

"

;)

~~~~~

anyway ... what's the latest ??

even after their 6 tweets.... I'm still in the dark :mad:

It's like being given the runaround and not a single ETA answer ...etc
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
From Samuel Rhodes

Roughly 2 pm eastern standard time.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
yeah it's like the first one is a picture of a dead drunk on the sidewalk taken from across the street. and the new one is a picture of the same dead drunk taken from above as it lays on the autopsy table.
[Saygus V²] UnicornKaz:
It's kinda hilarious for them to post a 18s video ( a bad quality one at that ) while there are numerous existed of better quality and more info...etc

This was their tease to calm the masses ?? wow !!! :eek:

---------- Post added at 02:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:26 PM ----------

LMAO ! :D analogies are fun.

I meant to say the

"Z"

axis instead of "Y" in the previous post :o
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
so confusing lol
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Lol CB I too was thinking this.

I truly believe their right hand (CS) has no idea what their left hand (Chad and the peeps in his hood) are doing.

It's all hand jive
[Saygus V²] mikemaddux:
For Saygus, three little words: Talk is cheap.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Do you really guys believe the story of old and new partner??

They did not mention the world class marketing agency name that they partnered with, so no one could investigate and discover their new fib.

Mentioning this story is just to pave the way for the new imaginary superphone that is gonna delayed for a couple of months.

I started to believe they did not build any phone yet, except the three demos that they used to take and show in every tech. events.

I just don't what is their goal? what do they want?
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
I'm glad I backed out of this when I did, I came back to this thread expecting to be disappointed that I backed out and got a different phone but now I see all of this. I believe that I made the right decision and even if it gets released whats after support going to look like... I wish you all the best of luck who are still waiting with your pre-order. :eek:
[Saygus V²] saantiago:
I just find it strange that they wouldn't release the names of the manufacturing companies they're working with. It serves no purpose to keep it a secret.
[Saygus V²] NexVision:
Yes it does.. It stops the ability to verify claims.
[Saygus V²] redbaron1324:
Anyone get a successful cancelation and refund since this last Friday? I made the request Thursday and have gotten no response or confirmation besides the automated email stating my support ticket was sent.
[Saygus V²] nutzuTo:
Now the fun begins :)u will get it by Tuesday if u lucky :)
[Saygus V²] 52smitty:
I called them out on their twitter feed about the same thing. They said an agent replied to my request after that. I recieved an email shortly after saying a refund would occur in 5-10 days .The odd thing now is that I can't sign into my account on the Saygus site and can't open the email link anymore.. I'm barred from access on their site! So I'm not optimistic its going to go through to my CC now. Yet another example of their bush league approach to customer service.
[Saygus V²] Purest:
I'm sure most of you are looking for alternatives, I am but all the current flagships I'm not interested in. The v2 will prolly be another 2 months, I'm cancelling.

I've been doing some searching and I came across this.

http://www.cometcore.com/

Has some really nice specs. Love how it's going to be a 4.7 inch amoled, 16mp front and back camera, 4gb ram, Snapdragon 810, waterproof/buoyant, 4000mAh battery. Not sure if it's going to be another Saygus Vaporfone though. Will be on Kickstarter soon.
[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
...Meanwhile back at Saygus HQ: (Part 4)

(For comedy purposes blah)

VP for Marketing: ...so in light of the new changes, we thought we would take advantage of the do-hickey that the China factory made accidently, and use it to our advantage!

Chad: Do-hickey?

Vp for Marketing: It's some sort of cloning device

Chad: How did that happen? How do you give specifications for a PHONE and get a cloning device?

VP for Technology: Well we think it had something to do with when you turn the wifi, IR blaster, the WiHD streaming and flux capacitor on all at the same time. They sort of...you'll see.

Chad: Wasn't Samuel checking the first batch out?

VP for Technology: Thats how we found out what it does.

(Multiple Samuel Rhodes's enter the room)

Samuel's All Together: Good morning Mr.Anderson!

VP for Marketing: As you can see, it works! Just not as a phone...

Samuel's All Together: Good morning Mr. Anderson!

Chad: Why does he keep saying that?

VP for Technology: He went to a Matrix marathon at the cinema yesterday, coupled with the psychological effects of being cloned. He is in some sort of loop.

Chad: Well how is this going to help us? Can he say anything else?

VP for Marketing: I spent all morning training him to say other things...Watch! Sammy want a cracker!?

Samuel's All Together: Thank you for your patience! We are doing our best to get the superphone to you, our loyal customers, ASAP. We are as excited as YOU!

Chad: Well thats going to have to do I guess. Where is Jed? Is he back from that Star Trek convention? Wasn't he scheduled to be on Twitter today?

VP for Marketing: He is down there now. I gave him a list of things to put up. He said he was going to do it after he played with...the...oh no...

(Later that Day)

-----------------

TEAM SAYGUS

@Saygus: 4. We've teamed up with a world class marketing agency to ensure our communications, like our phone, are top of the line.

We are Jed. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!

-----------------
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Looks cool, but...
[Saygus V²] Omegaclawe:
But... I ain't buyin' it. In both senses. The video and website are full of marketing focused design, and the phone in these is all CGI. Notably, the "interfaces" they've shown are not realistic, and they're making promises that it'll do things they clearly haven't even started implementing yet... and fins thicker than the phone itself coming straight out? Does this thing have a TARDIS in it, too?

Even if they do eventually deliver on these features, which are somewhat less realistic than what Saygus was pitching us, they're obviously nowhere near manufacturing these things. Just like Saygus, you have a long wait ahead for this phone, and there will almost certainly be delays. Perhaps they'll be better on the communication front (wouldn't be hard), but I'm not waiting another six months for a phone... particularly not one with so many gimmick features.

My two cents, anyway... but I'm becoming saltier on these unproven startups by the day.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Totally with you. Looks cool, but... In some of those shots it looks like an HTC one. The fins must be like airbags? The bubble messenger for comet to comet messaging... Odds are you'll never come across another person with this phone.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
:'(

*sigh* I'm still waiting too. I asked for a refund immediately after their last "Oh BTW we're delayed again, but we're still awesome. KTHXBAI" email. I haven't heard from them yet... I sent a follow-up that said if they didn't reply by Tuesday of next week I'd have to talk to my CC company. One way or another, I'll get my money back, but I'd rather they do it the easy way.

BTW, Monday is an American holiday (Memorial Day), so we probably won't hear from them then. But then again one of their copy-paste catch-phrases is "we are working around the clock," so maybe we will?

All the best to you!
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
News from Phone Arena

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sayg...anding-and-new-wireless-HD-video-demo_id69609
[Saygus V²] Loragejt:
They could at least provide a name about the new manufacturer's company...and of course a new deadline something more accurate to relieve us!keep walking!
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
I think the new manufacturer is ACME°. Wild E. Coyote will be supervising the process..... lmao! :p
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
I'm glad it's Wild and not his doe eyed brother Wile:laugh:
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I hope they get it out soon. I still want the device but I'm getting more and more tempted by the blackberry passport, the note 4 (which I can now get cheaper than the V²) and new phones like the nubia z9 and the letv series.
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
Who would have guessed that the delay was due to manufacturing? If they had been more forthcoming with this information weeks before the 22nd then it would not have ended up as badly for them. Though IMO, I would have been willing to pay more for someone to make my phone in the US, like I did with the Moto X. Maybe for some like myself, but support is everything to me in products such that having the best phone at a cheap price means nothing if you don't have a good support when things get tough.
[Saygus V²] Zinguy:
Note 4

I went with the Note 4. On a 2 year ATT contract, $199 through bestbuy. ($299 if I went through ATT). I just hope I don't mind using something so big as a phone.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
It's a really nice phone. The camera is a rock star and the s-pen stylus is the best in the biz. Throw in a removable battery and access to a billion accessories and I think the note 4 is a great choice.
[Saygus V²] jimmyhauser:
Been using note 4 for a couple weeks now. Battery life and camera are meh.
[Saygus V²] bag123boy:
Any luck on canceling your order?
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
been doing a bit of looking around for any saygus info and found these two names listed on a press release about some award that was given to saygus apparently for being best in utah. utah must be hard up for contestants. i sent a note to tim rush asking if he had any info to share. do not know if springboard5 is the new or old pr firm.

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[Saygus V²] bob90210:
Saygus has been using springboard5 at least since the announcement of the v2 last November.

Also, the best of utah is run by a private company. It is not affiliated with the state of utah. Companies nominate themselves for the award. The companies are judged based on the data supplied from the companies themself.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
i would wager a guess that springboard5 is the old pr company. thanks for that info.
[Saygus V²] NexVision:
Pretty sad to think they actually had a PR company this whole time.
[Saygus V²] Vapour_909:
I was asking support how they use the wireless HD feature, because it always seems to be turned on and it never shows how they go about turning it on. I wanted to know if it's easy to use like airplay, or if it's a pain to turn on and off. At first they didn't understand the question but it turns out that it's an 'always on' feature. You just switch to whatever input the receiver is on and it's streaming. so....there's that :highfive:
[Saygus V²] mbfdias:
Ridiculous, what about privacy?
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Seems like a huge waste of battery to have that going all the time.

I doubt I'll ever use it after the novelty of trying it once or twice wears off.
[Saygus V²] Vapour_909:
I remember hearing that the streaming doesn't use much battery life at all. Perhaps between that and the battery saving stuff it'll sort itself out. I doubt privacy would be a concern as long as the receiver doesn't connect to the internet.

Here's a video regarding the streaming chip they're using.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bHgfDcGjlc
[Saygus V²] minatour44:
and battery life
[Saygus V²] vinnyjr:
Please install these chips on all devices, at least the top devices. That is the future and it's been around for a few years. Let's get it together people. Great video, thanks for sharing.

Sent from my Note 4.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
LOL. Who did you ask about this? Our best friend Samuel?

I can't imagine that the WiHD will be an 'always-on' feature. It's just a total waste of energy and absolutely unnecessary to have it always switched on in your pocket.

At least on the devices I've seen at CeBIT in March, there has been an extra app for the WiHD features, where you could switch it on and off and had some more settings. If I remember it correctly, I've also seen this app before in one of the video reviews on YouTube, but I can't remember, which one it was.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
to me WiHD is cool but it seems that Saygus is more proud of their (new to market) WiHD than the V2. I have a Chromecast and I'm happy with that and have no use for WiHD, I have use for a phone tho.
[Saygus V²] mbfdias:
I'm thinking they are proud of the only feature they have working, or they would just do some videos of other things
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
I made a refund request on Thursday also and have inquired twice since on the status of the refund. Haven't heard a peep back from Saygus. Patiently waiting.?

Looks like a pretty cool phone. At least the company personnel put their names, with photos, right on their website. To me that shows some responsibility and sends a message of competence. I'll keep my eyes on it.
[Saygus V²] jcipactli:
To continue with paranoia, does someone know why the website logo hasn't been updated??

BTW this is my first post in xda
[Saygus V²] hormazdm:
Guys its a request to let the posts keep related to Saygus only here.....there are other forums for another mobiles......one ha sbeen created as a Saygus alternative too.....so lets keep this forum for Saygus for the sake of whoever is optimistic and sticking aroun d with their preorders......as one news from Saygus and you all will be bouncing up and down like rubber balls again.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
A thread has been created just for the purposes of alternative to the V2 here.

Folks are free to post here on the subject:good:
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
I think UK is highest in tax 20%
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
The one percent difference between UK's 20% and Germany's 19% doesn't change the world I would say. ;)

I've already calcuated the price in euro with taxes, so I'm not afraid of paying another 100€ for shipping and import.

Come, on Saygus - We can't wait to see your V² Superphone! :D
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
I think It's to much because a standard flagship cost that much including tax and all
[Saygus V²] Soltkemecsei:
20% is at or maybe below average in the EU. Hungary is the "winner" :mad: with 27%.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Are they updating their website? I cannot access to Saygus page
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I can access the site but the FAQ section is not right.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Yes, slight changes on FAQ.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
I received a reply from Saygus and here is their reply..

Thank you for taking the time to contact us!

We are currently working with manufacturer’s to introduce phone accessories to match our amazing phone. Additional backcovers and Qi chargers will be available for purchase via our web site. Please stay tuned to our website for release dates and options.

Thank you!

Hope this helps...
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Imma get the accessories. Wondering if qi charging is worth it?
[Saygus V²] BiffTirkle:
I'll get the qi. I have gotten used to not reaching over to grab my cable to charge my phone at night. In the morning I hop in my truck and plug it up where it stays until I get done with my day. So the qi would be nice. Maybe two if I can use one in my truck.

And I searched for the wihd adapter and saw receivers for under 100. They may not be the right ones but I figure I'll get one of those too. Though I never stream or want to stream to my TV. But for hotels it would be nice.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I've never used a qi charger but I saw some one 20 dollar range. I also looked at wihd receivers but not sure if there are compatability differences. What do you plan to use to keep the other battery charged?
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
I think those universal pin charger is the best for charging an extra battery
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Thanks I'll check those out, most of what I was finding seemed to be for a specific phone
[Saygus V²] limpopo:
WirelessHD is a standard, so any receiver should work.

On the other hand, there is a competing standard, WiGig, also known as 802.11ad, promoted by the Wi-Fi Alliance.

The two standards each operate at 60 GHz but are incompatible.

Initially, both standards are being implemented for point-to-point transmission and are mostly limited to line-of-sight connections, although signals can be reflected off walls and other surfaces, through a process of "beam forming" to achieve multipath transmission.

WiGig would appear to be better placed to dominate the market given its promotion by the Wi-Fi Alliance.
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
Looks like there's moveMent again.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Good. We will see on 1 March.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Glad to see some activity, I'm reluctant to order accessories in case I return the phone though.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Well I have a WIDI receiver already but its a cheap one. Might have to get a better one for this phone and my Surface Pro. I've always had lag transmitting video and wondering if its just the cheap adapter I'm using or channel confliction with my router. I can see benefits of the QI Wireless Charger. But typically I'm using my phone while its charging and don't see how that would work if its gotta stay connected to the QI charger.

Love that we are finally getting some activity on their end.
[Saygus V²] newstem:
I agree; it is no skin off their back to send a few tweets responding to all of those concerned pre-order customers. It is a significant investment on an if come. Show some respect for your customers!
[Saygus V²] limpopo:
WiDi is an Intel technology based on the Miracast standard, and relates to connections made in the traditional 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands. Miracast devices typically have operated with 802.11n standard connections, although 802.11ac-capable (faster) Miracast devices have been developed.

While the Saygus V² will presumably support Miracast, it will also have a separate, incompatible, wireless technology operating in the 60 GHz band, which will offer lower latency and higher bandwidth than Miracast/WiDi, albeit only over short distances and essentially only in line-of-sight. This is WirelessHD, which again differs from a similar but competing technology known as WiGig or 802.11ad.
[Saygus V²] hormazdm:
Are you still in the game Tony.....still on the ship??
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
"Game":eek:

What game:confused:

Serious phone is serious:silly:

TonyStark is in EVERY GAME:cool:
[Saygus V²] ryan49ryan:
Following up on a post in the Facebook group with a link to a street view tour of the Saygus offices. https://www.google.com/maps/@40.562...!3m3!1sKY88tT124IkAAAQDMaeeVg!2e0!3e2!6m1!1e1

I noticed another phone on a poster that kind of looks like the V2 but slightly different. Someone had suggested that the tour was taken in 2011 although it is listed as April 2013. Any idea if this is what turned into the V2 or another phone that never saw the light of day?

[IMG="Saygus Vphone LTE"]https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11377127_950170978429465_2549738592851309286_n.jpg?oh=a25587cc2e471339924f1991b4a9b793&oe=55F495C7[/IMG]
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Searched for Vphone LTE

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/saygus-maker-vphone-looks-8m-new-funding/2012-08-20
[Saygus V²] ryan49ryan:
The phone in the photo isn't the original Vphone though. It only ran android 2.3 and the phone on the poster looks to be running something 4.0+. Additionally there is no front facing speaker and the display has a glass frame before the plastic/Kevlar which the V2 does not.

For reference here is a picture of the Vphone

[IMG="Saygus Vphone"]http://assets.fiercemarkets.com/files/wireless/fierceimages/saygus_vphone_0.jpg[/IMG]
[Saygus V²] shaxs:
And no, that is not a peak at their old v1 phone. The v1 was a candy bar shaped slider. This is called the v lte. Looks like a completely different phone. So they have failed at two and are now going to fail at a third.
[Saygus V²] hdtechk:
All though Saygus's offices look the same the hall way is much darker now so its not resent
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Yeah this looks to be a separate device. By the time the Vphone was finished it was pretty much outdated and probably just not very profitable. Every time I relax, something like this comes up lol
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
This picture

Paris Hilton says it was taken January 18,2013. Interesting
[Saygus V²] hdtechk:
Hope this backwards counter stops soon
[Saygus V²] ryan49ryan:
My guess, based on the fact that there no info whatsoever on another phone called the Vphone LTE, is that this phone just turned into the V2 part way into it's development as to make it clear it was a different phone than the original Vphone which was not LTE enabled.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
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i was doing a search via the wayback machine and found an interesting story about the oneplus invite system on the saygus website i think it was on an investor page back in december 2014. in that story the writer states saygus has obtained verbal promises for billions, if needed. if true they seem to be with the big guys.