yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
And we have 6 pages of Ebays accessories tagged for Saygus.

Some of them funny too. Like power banks with capacity lower than the actual battery, or cables like these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adapterkabe...55?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item5b0f647903

You gotta give it to the Chinese, they are really ahead of our time.

:)
[Saygus V²] t3chfan:
Andreas, you are a legend :D

See, this is all it takes to put people's minds at rest, a little at least.

I'm still very dubious and I'll continue with the refund request because it all still doesn't add up for me, but this may just be my suspicious mind. If they can manage an official update of real substance before the refund is processed then I may stay on the train but I'm not holding my breath.

Andreas, I certainly hope that you will be supplied with your order gratis for all the good work you've done on their behalf ;)
[Saygus V²] MadBob:
Especially funny as the cable is USB 3 and we have already been told the phone is micro usb (USB 2) :)
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Hi Andreas, thanks for the update!

I have one question, not that I'm doubting you or anything, but it's really started to nag at me, so maybe you could help clear this up.

Here it is: why are they talking to you and not anyone else? What did you do differently that made them talk to you that none of the rest of us did? I don't have anything against you and I very much appreciate your keeping us informed, but I don't understand why Saygus does things this way rather than sending an update email or a quick tweet to make sure everyone gets this information? It just doesn't make sense to me.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
news

They work hard but I'm certain that they need to go to the bathroom sometimes. They could update us then ;)
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Sqigles earl tablet... Sqigle like the SQGL headphones? Just kidding. But I can no longer blame people for applying for refunds. I've been very positive and supportive but by now I'm starting to question staying aboard (I've considered a refund and applying the money to a jide remix Ultra surface). I'm not freaking out but things have reached a point where I'm more concerned as time goes by and not more assured as I figured I would be with them getting better at communication.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
Camera

If the camera would be ready wouldn't you think that they would be astonished to show the photos? I know I would.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Sure I can understand you doubts, but unfortunately I can't provide you a precise answer, since this behaviour isn't even completely understandable for me.

I have never seen their office and I don't know how many permanent/own employees Saygus exacly has. After I met Chad and Chris at the Saygus booth at the CeBIT, we have talked a lot and they have been very interested in the questions and worries of the community. Till this day I've had contact with about five different Saygus staff members and every single one of them was always friendly and open minded. Until now they have kept every promise they made to me.

To bring this short story finally to an end:

Everyone at Saygus is working really hard in order to get things done, keep the deadline and for the main part delivering us the best smartphone experience out there. :)

They are absolutely focused on building this device, finding the best matching components and getting it very reliable..

The Saygus guys can't tear themselves apart and thus the social media is still suffering. I can't tell you exactly, when this will be getting better, but they are discussing different possible solutions for this problem now. ;)

If I were Saygus, it would be a lot easier for me, to give some information directly to one of the community and he does the "delivery" for me. So I don't need to formulate everything and think about the wordings. Nevertheless this can't be a permanent solution, since the community needs some 100% reliable and official information being published by the company itself too.

BTW: You guys rock! There have been 1295 visits by 763 unique users from 59 different countries on my website during the last month. :D
[Saygus V²] Jan de Mor:
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm out. I waited all I could, but I need a new phone right now so I asked for refund. It's a pity but it's v2 taking too long for me to be real.

There's no doubt Saygus communication skills needs to be really much better, but I've to admit they've been impeccable with my request. Just a few minutes after my ticket I had a mail answering and 24h after they confirm the refund in a 5-10 days period.

If in June v2 is real and reviews are as good as we all expect, maybe I'll sell my new phone and go for it. We'll see!

Good luck for you all, I really want this phone to be real, but I simply can't wait two more months... I've tried to wait, but my Samsung Galaxy S2 needs urgently to be retired!
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
In the time it takes for them to discuss how to communicate better they could just send a fracking tweet like...hey, we fixed the camera problem today or, good news we attenuated the fractal antenna. Maybe I'll start making crap up. It's better than nothing.

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Like this... Testing the fingerprint scanner today. Works great. You'll love it.

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Or...booted CM12 today from the second SD card slot. Yay.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Seven more weeks people. Got to be honest with you. IF for some god awful reason they can't deliver this phone- there will be plenty of options on May 22nd to get another phone. To be honest though; if they can't deliver, they'll tell us way before May 22nd that they can't and thus give refund or give us new ship date with another accessory. My phone has developed a crack along the middle of it, and well I'm still going to endure until May 22nd.
[Saygus V²] 4ktvs:
I hope this phone turns out well, but I couldn't wait much longer so I got a Z3 compact on order as I feel it's the best deal for a new phone under $400. I just wonder though is this phone made in the US or is only the business that designed the phone in the USA? (Is it made in the USA?)
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I wonder

Do you think something big is happening? Could be good or bad. IF they are thinking about moving the ship date either way, it would make sense to wait until you absolutely know for sure. If they have been using fully functional models, which has been stated, it's realistic to think they could bump the ship date up a week or 2.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Andreas, the spy has news:

1. The camera issues front/back are fixed

2. The antenna problem is also fixed

and those are pretty big in my book. Because we are not talking iPhone Evilglobecorp.com but some startfromscratch anonymous wannadoitright company. They need to do it for all the Jobs's *****es as well. With replaceable battery and SD slot in one high spec phone. Versatility, modularity, choice. Android is all about that.

There are things happening, I am taking Andreas's word for it.

And now that you mentioned it: there were component and production issues mentioned before. Antenna specifically. And camera lens shipping. I wander what is current status? Antenna- solved, camera- solved, what is left?
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Fingerprint scanner is the only thing I can think of 9
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
In my Fake Saygus Update post I said they fixed the fingerprint scanner, so we're all good there. Next up: fine tuning auto brightness values when going from light environment to dark. Update soon.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I'm really liking the zenfone 2 stuff I'm reading so I think that's my backup device for now
[Saygus V²] t3chfan:
Jabba, if you could also give us all a fake update on the 'Built-in Power Saving Chip – 50% Improved Battery Life' that would be pretty sweet, that was a big feature for me ;)
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Hello dear Andreas, @ lukec36 will call you Devil's Advocate since he is absolutely sure that Saygus is not going to deliver the phone on May 22nd or even afterwards.So he is polluting this thread repeatedly scolding every one who is optimistic.
[Saygus V²] t3chfan:
Ah, good evening and happy easter to you pnsdhrn, and thanks for calling me a pollutant, that's pretty nice!

I'm just highlighting facts, plain and simple, and joining in with a bit of humour that others have instigated.

I salute your optimism :)

I just can't risk 549 fine American Dollars on optimism alone. I'm happy for you that your financial situation allows you to take calculated risks like this.

Please trust me, I want the Saygus V2 to be available on May 22nd, it is the only phone that has the specs that really do it for me. Once this phone is released I will almost certainly do my utmost to purchase it, and if by some degree of karma I'm not able to do so, and curse my cynical mind for ever being a doubter and cancelling my order then I will only have myself to blame.

pnsdhrn, sorry I hurt your feelings somehow.
[Saygus V²] MadBob:
As far as I understand 22/5 is shipping date not delivery date, so we'll have to wait a while longer.
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
Ship date means its ready to go no ifs ands or buts. Its Ready for USPS/UPS/Feddex to pick up to be delivered to us.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
Man, Saygus finally responded to my ticket.... They asked me to fill out some information and to respond in said ticket.... but they closed said ticket.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Thanks for revealing that you are an American schewnist who value your precious American Dollars and think that our hard earned currency has no value at all.If you like the specs of Saygus you are free to buy it whenever it is released or save your precious Dollars if it is not released at all.It is your own choice and decision.Why you bother us here?So let me say once again,why are you polluting this thread especially because you havn't invested anything for Saygus?On the other hand, most of us here have invested our hard earned money and have some MORAL eligibility to express our views whether it be positive or negative.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Blah, blah.... enough of Dostojevski- I want to read about Saygus.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Fake Saygus Update: Auto brightness values have been optimized so you can read in bed without blinding yourself, or your partner, but still read the news in full sun. Next up, power saving chip results. 50%? On a bad day.
[Saygus V²] Windswept7:
Hey JambaMac could you give us some fake info regarding the WiHD and if Saygus are secretly planning on bundling a pocket sized transceiver in with the Saygus V². I love the idea of being able to use any screen available.

Thanks!
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Ok

I'm turning off my email updates. This thread has turned into petty fighting and pretend updates that were amusing the first time. Somehow this ended up worse than the awful oneplus one forums. Impressive.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Hi Winswept,

Thanks for asking. Your fake is: Our engineers are working with the manufacturers in China to get the cost down a little more so we can bundle one with every pre - order.
[Saygus V²] MadBob:
Not quite sure why you quoted me and repeated what I said? I.e. shipping date is the date it ships not the delivery date, but thanks for agreeing with me ;)
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
There is no Einstein on this planet that could predict the exact delivery date. Not with my country's Post. It is simple: they are planning to SEND us bloody phones on Christmas, May 22nd.
[Saygus V²] :
Hi all!

Can we keep this thread about relevant information , instead of clogging it up with jokes and off topic? Otherwise closing it until the phone is actually released may be the best idea.

Some want to discuss actual information about the device.

Thank you for your cooperation,

Darth

Forum Moderator
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
This is appreciated.
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
:fingers-crossed::good::good:
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
EXACTLY
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
I also received a response on Friday to a ticket I had opened back in early February inquiring if any phone cases would be made available for the V2. I replied back to them asking how come it took two months to reply to a ticket and that I look forward to hearing from them in two more months on a response to that reply and that I am also looking forward to the May 22nd ship date. I doubt I'll hear back from them on this ticket response though.

Their public communication is an utter disappointment. I don't know how they expect to sell phones going forward it they don't drastically improve their method of communications?

I'm hanging on my my pre-order until 4/20. If this Saygus support community doesn't hear anything substantive from them by then, they've lost my trust. At that point in time it'll have been 5 weeks without any public communication following CeBIT. How long are they going to kick us in the pants for and expect that we'll sit idle and take it?
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
We sound like a bunch of people in a bad relationship haha. Cause that's what it is, a bad business relationship. :D But I'm staying in until the specified ship date.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I'm still in for now but another phone has caught my attention. I've picked my own "show me" date so we'll see what happens.
[Saygus V²] sonwon:
which phone?
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I'm liking what I read about the zenfone 2
[Saygus V²] sonwon:
I did too until I found out the battery is now removable.
[Saygus V²] s-lps3:
Well guys and gals,

Its been nice but I'm not going to be riding this boat any longer maybe next time when the V3 makes it to the rounds. I hope by that time they get all their ducks in a row. I hope all the best for everyone who sticks around.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Hate to see you go but I do understand. Have your eyes on another Phone?
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
On a good note

After receiving issues with Visa on my order (blocking my original transaction with the coupon code) I got this awesome email.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Good deal man
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
Yeah for sure. For a while I was thinking that the ticket wasn't going anywhere. There is light at the end of the tunnel and hoping it's the V2 flash ;)
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
There was even rumored Facebook talk by a saygus employee that shipment might even be a little early. :)
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Did you preregister?
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Crossing Fingers! I wonder if anymore saygus talk is on that employee's Facebook.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
Well I tried. My Visa card got blocked. Once that was fixed it was too late (well that's what I taught)
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
Sorry all, I cancelled my preorder today. After two months of waiting the excitement for this phone has worn off for me. I'll be looking to pick one up later this year, used most likely. Realizing that my G3, rooted and modded, is plenty good after seeing the latest released phones. G4 still looks interesting but probably won't have root right away so I'll pass on that too. Good luck to you all and press on boldly and patiently!

Sent from my LG-D850
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Well we hate to see you go. But I might not be far behind. If I get a solid USA release date for the zenfone 2 that might do it for me.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
was the lack of communication from Saygus your deal breaker?
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
Communication was a factor in cancelling. I think two more months waiting while they have my $$ is a bigger factor.

If V2 is as good as they hope I'll grab one in the fall of this year used. The fact that LG is keeping the G4 5.5 inches and adding what looks to be an even better camera was part of the decision for me. I usually buy my phones used after 3-6 months of release at $300-$400 max so $550 was a stretch, not financially, just psychologically.

Fyi they replied to my cancel ticket within a couple hours and have begun the refund process of 5-10 business days. So weird that it was that fast yet others are hearing back weeks and months after opening a ticket?!

Sent from my LG-D850
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
My biggest concern is progress. It seemed they made very little progress between

January and March. Now we really haven't heard anything definitive since then. My concern is IF they don't have 100% working models today (45 days from ship day) How likely is it that they can get them fully functional, properly tested and into production by that time.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
I've been worried about camera software from day one. It's not enough just to put a good sensor in, look at the droid turbo 20mp vs. the Lumia 930/1520 20mp shooter. The turbo gets lukewarm reviews and the lumias get consistently stellar reviews. I've had both phones (1520) and the lumia was much better.

Also, I've been using my 5.5" G3 for video watching and now don't think I want to go back to less than 5.2" at this point. That is a change since two months ago when I thought a smaller phone might work. I'm looking at the lumia 640xl as a back up device to my G3 until i can grab a used V2 or G4, depending on reviews of both phones.

Sent from my LG-D850
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
they have tweeted that they are focusing to tweet every week.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
That's true, some companies really care about their cameras. I've been checking out the zenfone 2 as I've heard they are camera enthusiasts.
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
I cancelled 2 days a go. They got back to me right away about it. I'm still eyeballing the zf2. Apparently there's a battery issue with the 4gb of ram version people ate talking about in the xda thread. Hopefully it gets fixed by the time it chores to US.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
[MENTION=463378]cottle[/MENTION]515 [MENTION=574463]say[/MENTION]gus Yes, you are right. It will be the Sony IMX230 sensor.

See more details on my website: http://t.co/k98J5xKQPs

if this is the sensor used by the V2.... I've read that Sony was only releasing the sensor in April (now) so that could of delayed the camera a bit.

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[/COLOR [MENTION=463378]cottle[/MENTION]515 [MENTION=574463]say[/MENTION]gus Yes, you are right. It will be the Sony IMX230 sensor.

See more details on my website: http://t.co/k98J5xKQPs

if this is the sensor used by the V2.... I've read that Sony was only releasing the sensor in April (now) so that could of delayed the camera a bit.
[Saygus V²] eleiton:
Hi, what do you mean you can't disclose? If you have this information, can you share? email perhaps? What could be so sentive that cannot be disclosed?:rolleyes:
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I know this is the claim but Saygus also stated they had fully functional models at their office that worked great, those statements were made before they would have even received that sensor. How?
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
They probably had a few samples (first a sharp and then a sony.) I know Motorola and everyone else gets their hands on with the new Snapdragon's before they start shipping them out, It allows companies to develop around the parts before things can start shipping. Sony's new sensor has hit mass production and is being sold in April.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Convince me that there is or going to be a better phone than saygus v2 before June; then I might back out. Can anyone do that? I invite you to try!
[Saygus V²] MikeyMike01:
I went to see what the fuss is about, and two things come to mind. One, that phone is huge, and two, that phone is ugly. If other's like it, that's fine, but there's no way I'd get one.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Did you preregister?

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For me, i will not get new one in these two months before V2 is released.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
Hey their twitter just exploded in the last hour. Sounds like they are beefing up their customer support team.
[Saygus V²] orld:
MultiROM and klick

Just technical ideas

I wander, how difficult would be to port MultiROM for Saygus V^2? or it would be some original in-house boot manager?

Also, has anyone used klick or pressy headphones plug? is it worth to buy? what is your experience? :confused:
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
New facts I gathered from 3 sources:

1. Fingerprint scanner works with "high accuracy". It has been demoed at CES 2015 but nobody recorded it. And they didn't bother to inform anyone it works.

2. They are considering accessory swap for those who would prefer something else over headphones (3 sources)

3. Verizon still didn't approve

4. Service Team that will work nonstop is about to be hired
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
For No. 2. I will go for screen protector and Receiver.

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Last time, I used Motorola Razr XT910. There is an app called Boot Manager and I always swapped one rom to another. I hope V2 will also have similar app
[Saygus V²] Ahg3r1:
For #2: I received an email stating:

"For now the only item that we are offering for the delay is the headset, unfortunately we do not have another option to offer."

So could you please reveal your "sources"?
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
So reality is there won't be a better phone than Saygus within the next five weeks. ESPECIALLY within the price range of the pre-register.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Thank you possibilis.That's good to hear.And Iam not bothered about Verizon since I am not in USA.

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What you said is absolutely correct.
[Saygus V²] Spenser46:
I am also not in the USA but I AM bothered: if they don't get big carriers into their boat the whole thing may not float.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
no I could not pre register as the card isues I got.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
You will get Screen Protector and Extra Battery, right? I did not pre- register but I am still hoping for FREE Screen Protector and Extra Battery. :)
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
As per their e-mail yes ;)
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Huge, I wouldn't agree but it is in the larger realm (which some people prefer) and ugly, just a matter of personal preference.
[Saygus V²] tocirah1:
Can you please post your sources for this info?
[Saygus V²] bag123boy:
It is on saygus twitter page.
[Saygus V²] tocirah1:
Gotchaaa, somehow I missed the fingerprint scanner tweet.

For reference:

Source
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
Still haven't found the source of verizon not approving it, from what I've seen it's still going through the approval processs.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
I remember seeing a tweet about this last night, but I can't find it anymore, so they must have deleted it. That probably means that their twitter person wasn't supposed to say that yet as it may not happen. So I'd put #2 down as a "maybe".
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205618602920711&set=gm.871433646250305&type=1&theater
[Saygus V²] tocirah1:
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[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Or you can just log in
[Saygus V²] tocirah1:
Thanks for the screenshot. I am logged in, but I don't think I have permissions to view the page.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Yeah, you have to request to join the group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/SaygusV2/
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
It would be good for everyone to get those perks as this is still in a pre-order stage. As for switching the free earplugs for other devices would be nice but I don't think it would be smart for a company that has had delays (money loss) to give out more free stuff. All I want is information from Saygus on the process of the phone and I'll gladly pay for the extras at the release date.
[Saygus V²] tocirah1:
Sweet, do I need to contact anyone to get my request approved, or do I just wait?
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
you just have to wait.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Just request to join and then wait. It didn't take more than a day for them to add me, but that was a while ago.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
if you give out your name and a short description of your Facebook profile picture I'm sure some of us can add you to the group ;)