yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
[MENTION=3870743]alb3rtt[/MENTION]

Yes and no. Taking away the core functionality of the phone is terrible. The camera in full auto is not good here, besides perfect conditions.

Anyway, a user from Xperia forum having already 5.0.2 from Scandinavia,

says the camera is pretty much the same.

Nothing seems to be taken away.

Seems like a good news.

Other than these doubts, I welcome Lollipop with open arms.
[Xperia Z2 General] raniastar:
5.0.2 from Scandinavia for z2?????
[Xperia Z2 General] djgigi94:
Finally lollipop

Finally lollipop is here! For no raw suppport i can immagine it,because the other OEM doesn't support it because they must rewriting the all camera software to implement it ;) For UI and sd card support i'm happy :D For the others who aren't happy for these entire two weeks of waiting...relax...they update (probably?) entire z series in two weeks.The z2 update can probably arrive tomorrow or in a few days.The differences are minimal in those two devices .And sony says that begin to update first z3 and z2 series. For marketing and probably for some differences in z2 and z3 kernels, they oblivusly begin to rollout the update with z3 series.Then a few days they begin with z2 series. We just wait a little more! remember that sony india says...they says the truth about lollipop update,it is arrive for z3 today (monday).The week isn't end...it probably arrive this week according sony india...stop complaing about update!
[Xperia Z2 General] Eminos:
No. Z3.
[Xperia Z2 General] MelihCaliskan:
Can we edit this fw?
[Xperia Z2 General] atif_afzal:
update for z3

www.gsmarena.com/sony_pushes_android_50_lollipop_for_xperia_z3_z3_compact-news-11564.php
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
Well Z3 of course. Sorry, didn't clear that.

Anyway, yes. That's like a good news.
[Xperia Z2 General] HellRoot:
I can wait a bit longer.. But it is getting close :)
[Xperia Z2 General] root82:
RAW for a phone? Bad quality with higher storage space requirements. Who of the normal users even has a RAW converter? Sounds like I want, I want, I want for the sake of having something again.
[Xperia Z2 General] mysara saad:
Q.for developers can we flash z3 ftf or zip files and then flash our kernel over so we can have full working rom?

Just asking

Regards
[Xperia Z2 General] Rajeev:
Lolipop kernel is different i think.. I think its need some serious porting...
[Xperia Z2 General] Zwulf:
No complaints about battery life or devs... But still no company offers a device that has most things customers would like to see. Got good customization options and FOSS on Nexus devices? Sure, but poor battery and camera... Got good hardware and nice battery life? Sure, but DRM crap, closed source, bloatware that you can't get rid of if you don't like it without massive loss of features (again DRM), and getting worse quality of the device when choosing FOSS for it. Why people always complain? Because NONE of the manufacturers produce devices that have everything, not just one or two nice features. That's all. Even if spending 600 Euros (not dollars!) which is a HUGE amount of money the device I got is not the best I could possibly get for this amount of money and there is no alternative. It's just the one which has not as much of that annoying stuff, but still is annoying. I'm sure there would be many people who would buy a device from a company not "covering their ass" because they want to serve the best they could offer and have a friendly not restrictive philosophy, that would be honored for sure. But it's not the customer who is the center of their philosophy but just making money leaving the customer behind because every manufacturer does so and you have no real choice - only between bad and worse. Like choosing between Republican and Democrats, both not the things people really want, but there is no real choice. People will keep complaining if manufacturers don't offer a fair choice for users. That's it.

Maybe you like it that way but most people don't like being restricted for no reason (but money).

Guess why Linux became that popular... could it be because it offers possibilities and as few restrictions as possible, customizations with hardly a limit? Does Linux kernel cut features because you add a kernel module or use sudo? No...? So Google does earn nothing with FOSS, only proprietary components? It's sad that manufacturers try to enforce users to use what they want them to, not the other way round. I learned that a market should serve what the customers want but still this is not the case with smartphones.

There is a German proverb: "Friss Vogel, oder stirb." Means you should always take what you're given even if this is the worst you could get. That's the way manufacturers still act today. That's why people still complain, hoping there would be a device fulfilling their wishes, but there isn't one. And probably never will be. You can't serve everyone that's for sure but there are principles almost everyone here shares, but still no device offers, doesn't matter how much money you spend.
[Xperia Z2 General] samuraix21:
Either she's un-informed or she knows something the hardware that's different between the Z2 and Z3 that we don't know about :confused:

Granted though, I recall that the ftf size between Z2 and Z3 are actually different... so yeah *shrug*
[Xperia Z2 General] ronniecross:
She sounds clueless, tbh. First she's saying there's no information on release dates for other devices, then after a bit of a grilling, she gives some more information.... that apparently doesn't exist....
[Xperia Z2 General] ImS0Raw:
She basically is still right, there is no information on an exact release date. She gave more information indeed, but that is just the same as in the Sony blog, aiming for the coming two weeks. I am dissapointed though that they don't update the Z3 and Z2 first instead of the Z3C.
[Xperia Z2 General] mschwanke:
In germany we spell "so nie" in english : "so not" or "so never" (a joke)
[Xperia Z2 General] artikle:
Sony's Lollipop release announcement video : https://youtu.be/DyGVDc1Wtmw
[Xperia Z2 General] Credulos:
Disappointing promises even after seeing only the rolling Lollipop nothing for Z2 and Z3 further , unless a speculation for two weeks line Z which may include other Z2 , having the same number build similar to Z3 . .:mad:
[Xperia Z2 General] djgodlike:
Finally able to move apps to sd... And i might like the work and private profiles. Hopefully they switch based on location ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] bdithug:
Since we don't get raw support for the camera, the least Sony can do is improve their auto mode for the times where you need to take a quick shot. But from what I've read, the auto mode is pretty much the same :(
[Xperia Z2 General] Haldi4803:
And that's the main difference between these two phones ^^ Different Screen, different touchscreen drivers. So yeah no wonder they don't work.

It's our job to be disappointed! That's the whole fu***ing reason XDA exists! To improve which was given to us by the manufacturers. To adjust the software to our own silly unimportant personal needs. We are no news page that has to write an article about great software updates, we take what we cand and demand more! we strive for the perfect rom so that all our uncommon needs can be fulfilled. If you ever become 100% Happy with a product you bought from a company... congratulations, you are either delusional or hit the jackpot. It's human behaviour to aim for evolution, to improve whatever you can. If you stop doing that you've lost!

And about the people claming "they will leave sony if they don't do this or that" they're simply idiots. Yes you've heard (read) right! Idiots!

That's a remnant of the pre-internet communication, where you actually had someone to talk or write to. When you need something from someone else it's a common practice to threaten the opposite faction to make them yield to your demands. There are simply 2 little (really obvious) problems here in this case. A: Sony does not read this Forum (and even if some Sony Dev does read this, it's not his job to report this complaint to customer care!), B: Sony tries to reach the maximum amount of customers whit their phones, so they have done a whole lot of research on what customer want's and what now. if your personal specific wish is not on this list, well sucks for you.

So please stop doing idiotic things like saying "If sony does not include feature X and Y and not Z i will leave sony" here on XDA. You could use the sentence "I would rather use another phone than not have Feature X an Y" this would make you sound smarter but would still not help anything about the ongoing conversation, because still nobody cares about your own personal needs.

If you really wan't to do something to change the World (or more like... Sony...) send them an Email with your complaints :)

If you don't know why you need RAW, you don't need RAW ;)

I'd still take it tough. Not like i need it but it could be nice in a few situations.

btw, i can fully understand Sony here on not implementing Lolipop Camera API 2.0, i assume they'd have to rewrite the whole Camera.apk (or at least 50% or more!) and that seems like a whole lot of work!

I just hope that someday (soon) we get an update on Lolipop with manual control for the camera.

Finally no more Sony Quick Settings in the pulldown.... i hated those! i hope there is gonna be a Xposed mod to improve these. Don't expect much settings options in the sony ROM.

btw, anyone noticed the video is not public but only accessible via Link ? ^^

Greetings,

Haldi
[Xperia Z2 General] Koostis:
Even if they had to rewrite the whole source code, three additional months have to be enough for a team of proffessional programmers :D
[Xperia Z2 General] artikle:
Also take note of the fact that the Walkman app is renamed to "Music" in the above video.
[Xperia Z2 General] B1nny:
It's just the Walkman app renamed to Music. Nothing else has changed.
[Xperia Z2 General] sfkaudi:
Someone here have a link or screenshot of that sony mentioned that the core of z2 and z3 will get lollipop first
[Xperia Z2 General] Koostis:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/10...d-5-0-lollipop-to-the-entire-xperia-z-series/
[Xperia Z2 General] Pandemic:
ya`ll know what i just wonder, since when is the Z3 compact a flagship because it gets 5.0.2 first instead of Z2, in my way Z2 and Z3 must get it first and then that lil plastic baby !
[Xperia Z2 General] magpte:
Z3 and 3c got updated yesterday
[Xperia Z2 General] tOrNadO™:
they are new gen devices officially.. so they release for the latest gen devices first, then z2 series and then z1 series and finally z series.. Its only legit.. Its not about the specs, its about the z3 series being primary priority.. ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] jsscx:
Yeah,agree,but z3tc didn't receive update either, it's forgotten.
[Xperia Z2 General] yuskhayru:
Looks like the Z2 are also ready for lollipop in some regions guys. Check it out!;)
[Xperia Z2 General] stanley08:
Sony products are no doubt quality, expensive however. But i didn't like any device before Z1C. I think they were all BS. Z2 is amazing. And every other after really.

On LP update, Sony promised February update, Failed. Sony promised to kick off with Z3 and Z2. Failed. If you are a company as big as this, you either keep ur promises or don't make them. That's why the mobile division would always suffer because it's like even they aren't sure of anything. They say 2 weeks yh? We have waited since last year! What's another 2 weeks? Enough time for another failure. LP we await.
[Xperia Z2 General] adamsmth663:
is the build number the same as z3?
[Xperia Z2 General] yuskhayru:
Downloading in progress... :p
[Xperia Z2 General] kunaltyagii:
Let me know about D6502? in ofc right now. no access to xperifirm.
[Xperia Z2 General] ImS0Raw:
My XperiaFirm doesn't show this firmware. Too bad since I have high speed internet I couldve uploaded this for everyone in no-time.
[Xperia Z2 General] yuskhayru:
nothing yet for D6502
[Xperia Z2 General] dkionline:
ist up guys.
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
FTFa are being uploaded it seems

youll have to wait till its uploaded to download FYI
[Xperia Z2 General] ImS0Raw:
I found it in XperiaFirm and I'm uploading it to Mediafire right now. Test it out for me guys since I have to go

EDIT:

Mediafire is acting sooooooo ****ing slow. (This is the file uploading D6503_3 SE_1281-2601_23.1.A.0.690_R3C.rar) 50 minutes remaining. Sigh, Mediafire used to be fast. I should upload in a few minutes, atleast today not.
[Xperia Z2 General] :
I'm already downloading it. BAL 1282-0827
[Xperia Z2 General] Steve3581:
What region is Customized BAL?

Edit : Don't worry just worked it out "Baltic Generic"
[Xperia Z2 General] dkionline:
how good i said tomorrow and it's seeding now, lets check this evening and build something ;)

Balticum
[Xperia Z2 General] IreshS:
Sony servers are slow 1 MBps :crying:
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
dont be supprized, so many people at once are downloading via xperiafirm or official update and its likely to bog the servers when upward of a few hundred thousand

or it could be limited to 1mbps, i never pass 1.02
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
Mine much faster (3 times)

below 3.26MB/s
[Xperia Z2 General] Erotas:
speed

By me speed 10MB/s :) , maybe later we can update trough Sony PC Companion software?
[Xperia Z2 General] PRO>KOMP.<:
I don't have update on my z2 in settings. How you downloading and it is the original?
[Xperia Z2 General] IreshS:
You are making it slow for all of us :P
[Xperia Z2 General] Rash-182:
Somebody please report on notifications volume ASAP :)
[Xperia Z2 General] IreshS:
Yes it original by Sony you will have to download it through http://xdaforums.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/pc-xperifirm-xperia-firmware-downloader-t2834142

OTA updates will take sometime and considering what version and where you live it might take even longer.
[Xperia Z2 General] yuskhayru:
Since lollipop is ready, anyone can upload the pre-rooted flashable zip? :D
[Xperia Z2 General] ImAnurag:
post about phone screenshot as soon as someone flashes it :)
[Xperia Z2 General] yakupTR:
Pls lolipop screenshots pls pls wait

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[Xperia Z2 General] :
I'm on it! It is uploading to MEGA...but it will take HOURS!
[Xperia Z2 General] Ambor:
[emoji106] [emoji106] [emoji106]

Regards. Ambor

Member of RXS MoonBreakers Team and

Main Designer of MoonWalker Revolution

first Contact Lollipop for Sony Xperia Z2
[Xperia Z2 General] :
Something is not right. My phone got stuck on the bootanimation a few minutes, then I turned it off because it was TOO hot :crying:
[Xperia Z2 General] ronniecross:
Does it have xloud?
[Xperia Z2 General] Rajeev:
Do we need to include kernel??
[Xperia Z2 General] PRO>KOMP.<:
Ok, but when i download from XperiFirm how to install on my z2 i have stock rom?
[Xperia Z2 General] IreshS:
If you don't include kernel you will have flash the kernal only separately through Flashtool
[Xperia Z2 General] Rajeev:
Thats why he got a bootloop..
[Xperia Z2 General] El.Guaje:
Flash the zip, then turn of the phone. Use flashtool, exclude partition and system and do the flash!
[Xperia Z2 General] IreshS:
Do you know how to install FTF's? If not read this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2775411 and if you don't know how to flash FTF's you probably should wait for the OTA
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
FTF D6503 BATLIC GENERIC

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwp2-eAlYaIdU1BUdnpuMzUwRVE/view?usp=sharing
[Xperia Z2 General] earthtk:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/1...0-690/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

Z2 lollipop is rolling!
[Xperia Z2 General] :
I think it was a false alarm. Lollipop just takes too long to boot the first time. I flashed the full .ftf WITHOUT root and still took about 4 minutes, so now I'm downgrading to the 314 to install the dual recovery and try again
[Xperia Z2 General] Rajeev:
I will wait until someone flashed it successfully :D
[Xperia Z2 General] IreshS:
We have already finished downlaoding it :P and making pre rooted zip now
[Xperia Z2 General] yakupTR:
Who update??? Pls screen :) pls video :)

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[Xperia Z2 General] kamalmawa:
I'm testing here with a flashable zip.. Hope Sony didn't change the RIC protection again.. Will upload complete zip with kernel if it works
[Xperia Z2 General] earthtk:
I just woke up :D
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
hold on!!

i cannot boot the firmware :\
[Xperia Z2 General] earthtk:
Aiks seems like a lot of peeps can't boot :eek:
[Xperia Z2 General] adamsmth663:
made a flashable zip following the instructions in the other thread in general section

used super su 2.46 and didnt add the recovery zip as i will flash twrp2.8.50 using the fastboot method later

ill post some screenshots ina few moments
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
did yours boot?
[Xperia Z2 General] IreshS:
Did you flash the kernal through Flashtool ??
[Xperia Z2 General] Darklauber:
Currently I have a locked bootloader and Android 4.4.4 stock . I want to update to Lollipop and thereby make a full wipe . Can I back up my data before and after restore ? If so, how ?

Sorry for my bad english
[Xperia Z2 General] :
It took 8 long minutes for me. Now I'm on rooted Lollipop
[Xperia Z2 General] Arvis20:
Updated successfully, ROM working fine so far :) you need wait some at first boot ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] Sly Bastard:
So is there a issue with the FTF or another file? What are peeps using so they cannot bootup?
[Xperia Z2 General] AlanDS:
Thats great... Can you please post some screenshots?
[Xperia Z2 General] nomaj:
Can you upload somewhere flash-able zip? tnx!
[Xperia Z2 General] adamsmth663:
yes

yes as i said i followed the instructions of the other thread

so i didnt include kernel or anything in the flashable zip

i flashed kernel with flashtool
[Xperia Z2 General] Nilmotoo:
still waiting for d6502 !!!

Could it happen today ?
[Xperia Z2 General] Steve3581:
I have also updated with the Baltic Generic using Flashtool

All good so far!
[Xperia Z2 General] kunaltyagii:
You can try using helium, that is the only available method for non rooter phones, also you can try the inbuilt backup and restore method but i dont know where it stores the app data backup and whether you can restore data from kitkat to lollipop
[Xperia Z2 General] gamer649:
So, time to hold my hands up and say I was wrong and impatient. A day after the update started rolling the Z2 versions started rolling too. Not updating until the eXistenZ ROM and the AndroPlus kernel get updated (don't want to lose my multiROM).
[Xperia Z2 General] Patrol619:
So the .ftf uploaded here is working or not?
[Xperia Z2 General] Indicious Flow:
Flashed the new .ftf on my SG set. No issues and boot time after 1st flash was pretty fast though. It took me like 2 minutes only. :o
[Xperia Z2 General] yakupTR:
More more pic.. And pls report sound camera phone quality? And pls screen ram???

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[Xperia Z2 General] IreshS:
The boot time is only slow if you make a pre rooted zip
[Xperia Z2 General] action294:
Is there a way to keep root and data when flashing the FTF? Coming from 4.4.4.
[Xperia Z2 General] IreshS:
FTF works.

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Only way to do that is make a flashable zip thats pre rooted. Then flash it through TWRP without clearing DATA then flash the kernal and other important parts through flash tool. Risky most probably you will run into some bugs.
[Xperia Z2 General] mysara saad:
No d6502 yet? ?
[Xperia Z2 General] zaryab360:
Can any one tell me the flashing procedure?

I'm on rooted 4.4.4 with dual recovery!

Flash like other FTF? With full wipe?
[Xperia Z2 General] yakupTR:
I can't see. Try pic. Ram . Message. Phone vs .;) pls :)

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[Xperia Z2 General] PRO>KOMP.<:
Look this Link
[Xperia Z2 General] Rash-182:
Volume of notifications.. anyone please?
[Xperia Z2 General] yakupTR:
+1

Whatsapp and message???

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[Xperia Z2 General] IreshS:
Did root work?? SuperSU says no binaries installed. Confirm if it works foe you so i can try agian
[Xperia Z2 General] kamalmawa:
The reason it doesn't work is the Sony RIC protection. Needs to finds a way to disable it
[Xperia Z2 General] Plogm:
hey, how exactly do you preroot your rom? with pfr creator and latest SU?would that work alright? tnx

also fellas , can we use "backup and restore" to recover our app-data to lolipop?!
[Xperia Z2 General] stanley08:
And then a documentary?
[Xperia Z2 General] arash.mid:
hi. screenshot from ram management please!
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
Does the existing RIC killer work??
[Xperia Z2 General] Darklauber:
Can anyone upload the Nordic FTF please?
[Xperia Z2 General] kamalmawa:
Nope.. I tired the one inside the NUT's dual recovery and the one posted here here with no luck
[Xperia Z2 General] yakupTR:
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Art runtime??? Art or dakvik which?

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[Xperia Z2 General] Huszi:
Hi all,

I have a nordic D6503 phone. My software CDA is 1282-0508.

I`m living in Hungary.

Why can`t i upgrade?

Thanks for answers!
[Xperia Z2 General] Darklauber:
ART :)
[Xperia Z2 General] adamsmth663:
just checked now

not fully rooted, can uninstall some stuff with titanium back up

however unable to mount r/w in Root explorer or edit build.prop

cant seem to enter recover either i installed twrp using fota method and twrp manaer says 2.8.5.0 is installed but rebooting using ndr utilit twrp maanger or manual method (holding vol down or vol up etc nothing works)
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
you tried installing via the adb way or manually flash the files?

If you noticed the logs for the 'other' version, it has issues mounting system.
[Xperia Z2 General] El.Guaje:
Check PC Companion for the update.

If not, you should learn to use flashtool.
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
So guys who have the Lollli already, any info about memory leak?

No problems?
[Xperia Z2 General] alb3rtt:
From what ive seen so far, people haven't been having ram issues.

But its too early to say anything
[Xperia Z2 General] Huszi:
Thanks!
[Xperia Z2 General] PRO>KOMP.<:
If I use flashtool for update do I lose drm keys and other things?

Now I have all stock 4.4.4
[Xperia Z2 General] Luhccas-X10:
Try Ric killer. :good:

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Have you tried the "alone" ric killer?
[Xperia Z2 General] djgigi94:
4.4.4 is perfect for now...i wait for a perfect lollipop instead of a bugged one. My girlfriend have a galaxy s5 with lollipop and there are some annoying bugs in that phone. This because samsung run so fast for this update, and there you are a buggy os! Lollipop include some radical changes in everything, and we have to wait sony to make a very stable update... if you need to have a fast(and buggy) update , buy nexus,lg,samsung or iphone. ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] Pandemic:
See Samsung rush always with updates, they want to fast always so Samsung users will have some bugs, Sony just take thier time to fix it first and then release it, Sony kicks Samsung from the throne... Sorry already happend !! ^^

Btw my Z2 beats my GF her S5 in all the ways and i laughed at her haha [emoji14]

Sent From Somewhere On Earth With My Z2 ^^
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
I always wanted to see this

SM should release a sort of pre-update

So what it is is a stable version as fast as they can with old icons and old features

This is for users to enjoy while SM is working on the full update

Sounds like a nice idea to me honnestly
[Xperia Z2 General] Pandemic:
Well in my eyes people with a Samsung will keep updating thier phone, it is better well just in my eyes to make a full perfect version and not an update after update.. Kinda useless and i think everyone on this planet need thier phone everyday ;)

Just my opinion !

Sent From Somewhere On Earth With My Z2 ^^
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
True

Well they have the option to do this

And doing this will stop impatient people from complaining
[Xperia Z2 General] Mahdian57:
Lollipop Update not for all Z series in February!

Harry up "Sony Mobile"! (not All Sony Corp.) again and again losing customer