yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
It's possible, one person said that the final version will be better than the ones that they could demo today. They might still be throwing a few things in.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Not sure about laser focus. For sake of avoiding confusion, I will quote their tweets about it. Perhaps I am wrong and you CAN understand these words as a laser focus teaser.

1. Few guys nagged about their communication, one XDA member asked politely about refund terms.

2. They answered: "We'll get better at communication- laser focus in V Squared"

3. They corrected themselves: "oops on not in".

So, people... which is it? Bad english (like mine)? Or they are planning some surprises?
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I doubt they wouldn't be advertising this though. With pre-orders already in motion and, I would think, wanting to drive more sales would it make much sense to still be holding back features? What would be the motivation?
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Agreed. And that makes me wonder- is there delete or edit option for tweets?
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I'm not very familiar with Twitter
[Saygus V²] jesamyn:
There is a delete option for tweets. I can't remember if there's a time limit to delete.

~ sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Sure you can delete tweets! In my twitter profile I'm also able to delete some older ones from a year ago.

While we are talking about twitter, there are some new tweets from Saygus. ;)

Seems like they're posting at the same time like yesterday... 3:00 AM here in Germany :D

Looking forward to seeing the first shots with the integrated cameras in the next weeks!
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Thanks for sharing!
[Saygus V²] sonhy:
https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/574384774543896576

Team Saygus

‏"@Saygus@cetterus Some issues. Working on software updates to ensure SanDisk 200 GB card works well."

good thinking Saygus!! 128gb SD card support wont be good enough to ship out now, you better put more resources into fixing that compatible issue.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Hi Andreas, thanks for sharing. You are always there with the latest updates :) :thumbup:

Yeah.. Posting at about same time.. Its about 8pm at their local time when they did the posting on Twitter. I think so.

Hopefully, by the time shipping announced this month, they could show us some of their own reviews and samples of photos from their camera.

Anyway their camera modules from Sharp. Its a electronic Company in Japan which I could say produces one of the best LCD screen for their phones and alot of their phones are mostly edge to edge display.

But I have never seen a 21 Megapixel camera on any of their smartphone but Saygus V2 probably could be one of the first to use it. So its interesting to see how it will perform.

They said testing software for 200GB sd card. I guess they are on time for launch and doing their final touch up! Awesome!

So let's look forward to more updates...

Way to go Saygus! :):thumbup:
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I would be happy with April.
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
ME also good news and reviews coming soon :):good:
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
April is no problem for me. I expected mid to late April even when they stated on or about March 31st.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Shhhhh! Not so loud, someone might read this.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Please do not announce on 1 April :)
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
...I hope there are at least battery, back cover, Qi wireless charging dock and the wireless HD receiver to purchase before the shipping takes place

:thumbup:

Every passing day is a chance for Saygus to make the superphone even better for all of us here :thumbup:

Anyway, they are already testing android lollipop. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
[Saygus V²] mastewman:
Good one...:thumbup:
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Found this in a hands on review from Stuff

The WiHD transmitter is obviously built into the V2 itself, but you need a receiver that you plug into one of your TV’s HDMI inputs - and currently these cost between about $150 and $400. You’ve clearly got to be very committed to the concept to spend that much, but Saygus says it’s working on its own receiver with a target price of under $50. If it manages that I can see every V2 buyer bundling one in.

Read more at http://www.stuff.tv/saygus/v2/review#cyVdEp4iT1Ouo2Cf.99
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Well if March 31st is target shipping start, giving a buffer of a few weeks, plus the shipping times, before May I'd expect the phone in my hands. Anytime before May 1st will be satisfactory for me. Shipping times I'd expect to be estimated a couple weeks, unless they give a rush delivery option which I'd be happy to pay especially if the accessories could be bundled with it.
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
Saygus also said you can cancel order even after shipping cost is given
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Same here.... I really don't care if it's a month late!

We need to give them the benefit of the doubt. It's a tiny company trying to produce something most android fans want.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Damn it, I said shhhh! They are reading this.

You say May they make it August.
[Saygus V²] hella356:
I'm not too keen on the extra thickness and weight compared to my Galaxy S4 that I'll be replacing in the next few months, but I think I could live with this, considering the massive storage capability and other good features. If it could utilize TMo WiFi calling, I'd be 100% sold on the V2, but this is the only phone I've seen that could possibly make me give that TMo feature up. If the V2 comes to fruition, it should be a big hit with enthusiasts, and could drive other manufacturers to improve their offerings.

Maybe we'll see a V3 next year, with THREE SD card slots! (Sounds crazy, but I would use all 3.)
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Good point about WiFi calling. It does come in handy.

Albeit I would be more than ready to totally forget about WiFi calling though, if this device drops.

As for the added thickness I hear ya. But hey... 3100mah battery with two mini SD slots. Also I think the rear camera runs through the entire depth of the device (less the screen of course).

A few reporters did say it feels light *magnesium chassis and Kevlar border/lip and backplate*

Also one small feature also I really dig about the V2..... as silly as some might find it. .... *aluminum buttons! Haha yeah... aluminum volume, camera and power buttons made from machined aluminum.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
Sadly metal buttons don't always equal good feedback. The nexus 5 has metal buttons and they well feel bad.
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
I think the nexus 5 had ceramic buttons if I remember correctly, but I love the way they feel :). At least from what I remember. I've been using a case for so long I forget
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
they feel like they are metal, and I've dropped my n5 from about 12 feet without breaking anything. I've compared the n5's buttons to the n4's buttons the n4 imo has a more tactile feel to it.
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
It's not the buttons that worry me but what's behind them. The actual micro switches is what gives the push and response. If Saugus uses quality micro switches then the feel should be great with aluminum buttons.

But I know what you guys mean. I hate it when buttons have a loose or wobbly feeling to them.
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
Did they say somewhere that they are working on lollipop right now? I figured they would be working on getting everything working on kk that it's shipping with first. I'm fine with kk until Google fixes the memory leak (had to reset my nexus 5 several times a day). Which I hear week be with 5.1 soon, but we shall see.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
For WiFi calling use hangouts dialer, works for me.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Yes they are working on Lollipop but kit kat will be shipped. They hope to fix lollipop and push to all soonest possible.

I do know that lollipop has quite a few problems on alot of devices, not just nexus. Takes awhile for Google to fix whatever they need to fix and push it out.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
It really doesn't matter what ROM they choose to give the Saygus, I'm more than likely going to flash something else. I'm hoping as soon as this phone is in peoples' hands a rom developer will work on something spectacular. Every phone I've ever owned I've had a modified rom/kernel. With the dual boot feature, this is going to be very interesting to play with. If I can test out roms before even messing up the primary rom, how cool would that truly be? I'm not worried about it shipping with Kitkat, and I'd rather have KK until Lolli is relatively bug free. I simply cannot wait folks to see what the possibilities are.
[Saygus V²] hella356:
Is it possible to do this with the phone number from your carrier? The beauty of TMo WiFi calling is that it functions exactly the same as cellular in terms of sending & receiving calls, caller ID, text messages, all with my normal number. If not, this looks like it could still be of some use with a Saygus.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Just found an interesting article written 5 March 2015,

informative points:

- fingerprint scanner still unusable

- speakers still unusable

- HDMI receiver shall be small and connected to the HDMI port in the television

(similar to all Chrome casters and Miracast devices but with better signal)

Here's the article:

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/rev...g-its-muscles-amongst-the-heavyweights-667497

Shell of the phone is obviously done a long time ago. Speakers and fingerprint scanners are separate modules. I don't expect much fuss and delay implementing them on finished device. Processor is decided- not much to delay with that. Camera is made by Sharp (can't remember where I read that). HDMI caster is tested many times. What hardware is left unknown? Seems like there are some software issues (as written on Twitter). I think they have everything more or less to put the pieces together. As for software- we all ordered it (more or less) for its high customization. We will be fondling with it. I guess the date is not far.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
I've used T-Mobile WiFi calling and it's pretty slick. It's built into the firmware of their phones so zero chance v2 will have this capability. You'll have to get a Google voice number to use hangouts for calls so you are correct that it won't use your carrier number. My close contacts have my Google number added to their contact list so when I call they see that it's me through caller id.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Even though I've never built my own ROM nor built Cyanogenmod for any device, I could image to put some effort in porting Cyanogenmod or Ubuntu Touch to the Saygus V². :)

Maybe there is someone else here in the community who want's to join me or I can join and support someone who is more experienced with building ROMs than I am.

I'm quite shure, that together we will make this challenge! :good:
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Hi Andreas, I will join you. However, I have no experience with building ROM or anything near that.

But I am willing to learn something from the people here who shared the common interest.

Yes, together we can make this a success! Or rather, make Saygus a success!
[Saygus V²] renjithrc84:
Hi, A mail from saygus, saw this in facebook

This is a mail from saygus team to a guy named renalto janelle in a closed group SAYGUS V2. With his permission I am posting it here.

Received this email from Saygus last night re: delivery

"Hi Renato,

Thank you for contacting Saygus. We apologize for the delay in responding to your inquiry, we got a bit backlogged. There has been much excitement around the V² and we’ve been working around the clock to make sure to release the very best smartphone possible. We can hardly wait to begin shipping.

To answer your question:

We are anticipating April you will have your phone.

However, we are finalizing our production schedule right now, and we will have the exact shipping date for your pre-order phone purchase in the coming weeks. We will keep you informed.

I hope that helps.

If you have more questions, or would like further support, please visit our “Support” page. You may also reopen this support ticket, or create a new one. Either way, we’ll be glad to help.

Thank you,

The Saygus Team"
[Saygus V²] hella356:
Thank you, sir. Learning of this makes me lean more towards the Saygus for my next upgrade. Fortunately, as TMo continues to increase their cell coverage, WiFi calling is becoming less common in usage for me, although there are still instances where it is key. This could be a doable workaround for losing WiFi calling.
[Saygus V²] Planterz:
There's a thread on porting T-Mobile's Wifi calling to the Nexus 4, with a sizable bounty, and it hasn't been done. If they can't get it on a Nexus device, it won't happen with the Saygus. Not unless T-Mobile offers the phone itself, but even that's doubtful. The Nexus 6 doesn't have wifi calling, yet my lowly Galaxy Avant does. I don't know why they simply can't make this feature an app. Normally, I'd think that they're limiting the feature to sell newer phones, but if my $100 hunkojunk has it and a new $700 phone doesn't, I don't know what to think. The iPhone 6's have wifi calling...
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
News aside. I have one small gripe. And would like to know everyone's thoughts on Saygus's processor choice for the V2.

Snapdragon 801.....

I wish they would have gone with something newer. It's a very capable chip. Although I would liked something more robust.

Thoughts?
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
This was my only reservation initially with the phone as well. Saygus said back at ces they choose the 801 because it was the most stable.

I tend to think that either 1) the 801 is a lot cheaper (I would gladly pay an extra 50 bucks for an 810).

Or 2) the phone has been a work in progress for a long time and the 801 was the top end processor back then and it took longer to produce than expected. This is what I tend to lean more on.
[Saygus V²] Planterz:
805 would have been nice, yeah. Not the 810 though. I've been reading too much about overheating problems and thermal throttling. Not sure why they went with the 801 and not the 805, but I suspect it might be cost and/or availability thing.
[Saygus V²] Reallionare:
I agree...
[Saygus V²] hella356:
TMo has been kinda weird about what phones get it. Assuming it could be done as an app or patch, I would think they'd be willing to have it apply to any phone, if that meant more people buying their cell service. But not the case. Maybe they're worried an app would work with other carriers, negating one of their biggest selling points? The V2 with this feature would stand far above any contenders, to me.
[Saygus V²] Reallionare:
I'm thinking that the phone has been in the making probably when the 801 was fairly new....

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My latest read abouts are saying that the 810 overheating issues has been resolved, and supposedly tested by numerous people in Barcelona....
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Thank you Renjith for your latest info.

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As Saygus is looking for novelty and power,it could have been 807 or an upcoming one,if there is one.Note 4 already has 805 and upcoming Note 5 is going to have 807.
[Saygus V²] Planterz:
I love T-Mobile, but some of the things they're doing baffle me. The wifi calling for one thing; it's on my cheapo Samsung, but not the Nexus 6, but it is on the iPhone 6's, which can be used on on CDMA networks as well (the phone, not the wifi calling). Some of their newer LTE phones also support AT&T's bands for some reason, despite the fact that the only band that they share is band 4. Expensive phones like the Note 4 and S5 and G3 all have unlocked bootloaders, but the ZMAX is locked, and a recent update to the Avant appears to have locked it?

I can only assume that there's some corporate compartmentalizing, and there's differing opinions or understandings held by those in charge of each part.

I've never actually even used wifi calling. Hell, I barely use cellular calling. My phone is my internet/wifi. Last billing cycle (which included the short month of February) I used 300gb or so of data, and maybe 10-15 minutes of talk, most of which was ordering pizza delivery then finding out where to meet the drivers as they got to my apartment. But I know wifi calling is an important feature for some. To seemingly arbitrarily limit it to specific phones is a real head-scratcher. Especially with their Uncarrier "good guy" image they're pushing.
[Saygus V²] mastewman:
Look at like this...

Yes, there are better processors now but when Saygus was in the design phase, the 801 was probably the latest version. The 801 is barely a year old and I know a year is like a decade as fast as they are turning out processors. :)
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
Not only that, but my concern is more 32bit vs 64bit. Granted it means nothing right now, but will it in a year?
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
How many other phones currently in the makes will be cutting edge in a year? There may even be a V cubed (v3) by then. Its the problem with investing in tech like this. One thing is for certain though.... how many features does the saygus have that could be made better in a year? It's already got tons of potential space, how much more will we really need a year from now? It's already got kevlar, and water proofing-- I'd like to see what more they can do towards making a phone invulnerable to damage; but it's pretty strong phone as it is being described. Sure the processor can be better; 64bit is a tech that took computers a while to introduce and to have a respectable list of compatible software and hardware. Biometric scanning, what better could there be in a year? Retina scanning? 21mp with optical stabilization and 4k capture capability; how much more can they do? Will there be optical zoom in the next line of phones? Memory could get better. I don't expect saygus to be so super in a year; but maybe the ruggedness of the phone will give it a nice resell value to get the next gen super phone by then. Or maybe it will remain super, who knows. It's all conjecture. Give me a solid phone that will make me dream about it at night.
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
But if it had a current gen 64 bit snap drain it could last 2 years I think easily. My nexus 5 I've had for a year and a half and it's still doing great speed wise. I just hate the battery life, memory, and lack of more storage. Camera is meh, but fine for me.

I mean sure everything will be better in a year, but with a better processor it could have probably easily lasted 2 years. I guess we shall see. I'm still super excited. I just hope the finger print scanner is actually good. The one on the s6 looks pretty darn sweet. Not to mention the snap Dragon finger print stuff that will work on 810s when it's finished.

Ahh what a great time to be in tech!
[Saygus V²] hella356:
Coming from a Snapdragon 600/2GB RAM in my GS4, the 801 is a nice step up, but likely a lateral or downward step to a lot of users the V2 is targeted at, which can't help matters in terms of sales. The reality is that 801 with 3GB RAM is still a damn good performer even now. If the V2 really comes to market and has good sales, it will provide the capital for Saygus to build a V3 next year with the 820 chipset, 4GB DDR4, 128GB UFS (maybe 256GB?), the new fingerprint ID, Type-C USB, maybe AMOLED screen?, and whatever other improvements. For my purposes (I don't game) the V2 is more than adequate in every way, but if a V3 comes out a year later, I'd probably jump on it. For me, the massive storage capability is by far the biggest selling point, although removable battery is a close 2nd. Water resistance, decent front speakers, OIS, meant to be rooted, etc. are all very welcomed features, too. I really hope they can deliver the goods, the enthusiast crowd will buy a lot of these devices.
[Saygus V²] theleftykid:
They should have given a sample working phone to some of ghe developer in xda to start making custom ROMs :)
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
I bet we could have helped move things along. :p
[Saygus V²] hormazdm:
Hi Renjith,

Are you from India?.....Cause i am from India too and have pre-ordered the Saygus V2 with full payment. Looking forward to get the shipping details from them. Do you have any idea how much the shipping to India would be approximately.

Regards,

Hormazd
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
well that's pretty awesome to hear.
[Saygus V²] renjithrc84:
Hi,

Im from india but working in qatar. No idea about the shipping rate.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Hello Hormazd,I too am from India.Now we 3 are from India as far as I saw the postings in this thread.I am not one who has preordered.But I am the one who has ordered it and my order # is 4428.They have informed that they will let me know the exact shipping cost when the shipment is due.So let us wait for it.

Thank you.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Nice to hear from everyone who has a interest in Saygus V-squared.

Maybe we could start off with sharing with us the country you are from?

We have people from India and Germany here.. The rest?
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Croatia.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Myanmar (Burma)
[Saygus V²] Chemo84:
Thailand - but living here as a German expat
[Saygus V²] Lightroom:
Norway here... ☺
[Saygus V²] scotth324:
Canada.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
WOW, you guys come from very different countries across the world. That's very impressing! :)

As my spring exams are finished now, I did some YouTube surfing and came up with a video from a polish guy, called SHEM, who also tweeted about his visit at the Saygus booth in Barcelona. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kles84GBuvE

While watching it there were now new facts for me, but I took a closer look on the Build Settings.

After a short search on the internet, it seems quite clear to me, that at least the baseband, and maybe also the kernel of the V² are familiar with the ones used for the LG G3, which is based on the same chipset: Qualcomm MSM8975AC Snapdragon 801 withAdreno 330 GPU .

Hopefully this helps us by porting CM to the V², so we won't need to do that much for our own device, except camera and other device specific features. But maybe Saygus will be cooperative at this point and support us be releasing their code or parts of it.

I will try to collect some relevant information on my dev website and if anyone wants to chat, I've made an IRC channel for the #SaygusV2 on irc.freenode.net.

For web IRC you can simply use this link: https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/SaygusV2
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
US Colorado
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
Am from oman and my order #785 :)
[Saygus V²] prasathvishnu:
I was about to pre-order this. But, I realized that they card is charged immediately, and not after shipping.

I cannot block 35k forver. So, waiting for the first batch to roll out, before I order again.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
US, RI here.

Order 2,1xx something. I made it in time for the pre-reg, pre-order rate of $550, hours before the pre-sale, discount rate ended. :)
[Saygus V²] Purest:
What if this is Vaporware? And they're just holding our pre-order cash for 2 months to gain interest? Then return the cash to everyone... Hmmm I just don't understand how they couldn't give us a release date while they take our cash. I've never pre-ordered something where they take your cash instantly, it's always on shipping when they charge.
[Saygus V²] letinsh:
The Republic of Texas ;)
[Saygus V²] post_break:
Order #11XX here. The wait is killing me but I will be patient.
[Saygus V²] Oupss:
France here
[Saygus V²] Jan de Mor:
Barcelona, Spain!

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Order 17##, by the way

If v2 finally it's vapourwave, then other options could be honor 6 plus, lenovo vibe z3 pro, asus zenphone 2 with 4gb or even the new lg g4... we'll see.

Now what I want is a shipping date for the v2! :cool:
[Saygus V²] xxDimxx:
Also of France.