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[Saygus V²] bag123boy:
I remember that saygus tweeted about the first guy that pre order the phone, someone from Texas. Maybe if u

ask his order number u can know.
[Saygus V²] tocirah1:
Lol yup, the first order is #612 for some strange reason (I'm the Texas guy).
[Saygus V²] Pepeelgordo:
I'm number 704

Hello Saygus Buyers (past and present),

I'm order number 704, to answer the query of when they started counting. Andreas, I'll add my thanks to the chorus of people who've already done so - great work!

Cheers
[Saygus V²] SESTI777:
Tell me will be a separate music or sound chip name. Or what will a decision regarding uluchsheniya sound of music (DAC). Thank you
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
SWEET! I'm #628. I knew I had to be one of the first ones as I was spamming the refresh button when preorders opened. :) Can't wait until this is ready.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Normally, the first batch has issues :P (just kidding). Can't wait to get it in hand
[Saygus V²] Jan de Mor:
:eek::D:eek::D:eek:
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
I'm number #617, I guess I'm one of the really early ones
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Yeah, something I've kinda had stuck in the back of my head. Hopefully not too many issues.
[Saygus V²] Omegaclawe:
So... Google just announced Project Fi, which looks great. Right now, it only supports the Nexus 6, with the line of reasoning being that there are not many phones with support for all the necessary networks. Comparing the Nexus 6 to the V2 is actually rather favorable in Saygus's favor for network band support, though... so once Google starts opening it up to other devices, why not the V2?

In light of this, I would ask Saygus to please try to work with Google to get the V2 approved and working on this network, which I suspect will mostly involve supporting the SIM on the phone and some things Google does on the back end. In any case, this could bring two great things together.

...not that I expect it to happen quickly... I doubt Saygus heard anything about it before we did, and Google may restrict it to the Nexus 6 for some time... but it's still worth the attempt!
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
Don't want to get too off-topic, but Fi isn't as good of a deal as people make it out to be.

On Fi, unlimited talk+text+1GB data (they charge you extra if you use more) goes for $30 + various government taxes.

On Cricket, unlimited talk+text+2.5GB data (throttled afterwards) goes for $35 flat and runs on the more-extensive AT&T network (downside is the 8mbit LTE speed limit and no international roaming)

If you are a contractor/own a business, Harbor Mobile (a TMO reseller) has unlimited talk+text+2.5GB data (throttled afterwards) for $33 (plus sales tax if you live in NJ), and has all of the usual TMO benefits like music freedom, free speed tests, and international data roaming.

Could even go a step further and go for their $18 5GB "tablet" plan (throttled after) and use free VOIP like Hangouts and RingTo. Can even use it with a phone if TMO doesn't recognize the device (a phone not sold by TMO).

The only real pluses that Fi has is Sprint roaming and slightly faster international data roaming speeds (2G TMO vs 3G Fi).
[Saygus V²] MikeyMike01:
I have to wonder if the fine folks of XDA could get Fi service working on a phone like the V2. Seems to me it's just a matter of software...
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
"If I already have a Nexus 6, can I use it with Project Fi?

Yes, you can bring a Nexus 6 you already use to Project Fi. When you sign up, you'll have the option to get a free SIM card shipped to you.

"

Its not software it looks like a whole new service provider. Anyway were swaying off topic.
[Saygus V²] ryan49ryan:
Yet another demo of WiHD

Just saw that Saygus has posted another video to their Youtube channel demoing the WiHD again. This video is a nice complete overview of all the things possible with it and it's nice to see how good the camera app is working.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2PbRYNftPE

It would be nice to see some demos of some of the other things that people are asking for, as amazing as WiHD is, such as the fingerprint scanner, front speakers, rear camera samples and SD card booting.

Glad to see Saygus improving on the communication front though! Keep up the good work! :)
[Saygus V²] bag123boy:
Just hope this video was taken 2-3 days ago bc according to andres Chad should be in China right now.
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
lol the cats out of the bag! :laugh:
[Saygus V²] ryan49ryan:
I noticed in the video the Saygus website had the Best of State medallion on the home page. Upon looking into the Best of State image details it was last modified on April 21st at 7:44 PM. So the video was most likely not taken before that. It was only yesterday that Andreas posted that he was leaving tomorrow, so if it was taken last night that still makes sense.
[Saygus V²] MikeyMike01:
Yes, I know what it is.

I mean, someone ought to be able to:

1. Sign up for the service

2. recieve a SIM card

3. stick it in a Saygus V2

4. [insert software modding here]

5. ????

6. Profit! Google Fi on another phone!

Just a thought. I suppose we'll have to wait until people are using the service to know for sure. :D:eek:
[Saygus V²] bhoth:
I just ordered and I am order # 10361. Keep the info coming!
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
My friend just ordered his one 6 days ago and his order is #10001 .Thats mean 360 orders for V2 done during that period of time(5 days):)

SO orders in saygus is going up and up :good: :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Only a few of them are in XDA?
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
:laugh:
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
29 days
[Saygus V²] tocirah1:
It's the order number you were emailed in your order confirmation.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
If you look at about 2 minutes into the video you can see the time/date when Katie gets done with one of her samples. While the phone is in landscape mode while showing off a photo album you can see the video was done at 4:21 PM on 4/21/15, which was Tuesday.:cool:
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
:fingers-crossed:
[Saygus V²] bhoth:
While we are waiting, has anyone given much thought to TPU cases for this phone and screensavers. I always put a case and screensaver on right away with a new phone and I am worried about being able to do that with this phone.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
I'm a big fan of phone cases with kickstands built into them. Hands free viewing, don't have to worry about the phone sliding out when you rest it against something to lean on while your watching. Don't have to worry about people looking over your shoulder when you try to show them something. Kickstands work in both landscape and portrait view too! I've had them on my last two phones and I'll never go without one. Once you have one, you'll love it! Only downside is then tend to make the phone a little thick overall. Minor trade-off.
[Saygus V²] tipocool:
I submitted a ticket yesterday asking about accessories, got this response:

"We are evaluating other options to include on our website; for example affordable WiHD receiver, high end earbuds, back case with a kickstand, Qi charger and more. To be one of the first to know join our newsletter, found on the bottom of our website."

Thank you,

Saygus Service Team
[Saygus V²] t3chfan:
To be honest one of the things that attracted me to the V2 was alleged robust nature of the device. I'd agree that a screen protector is pretty vital but I can't wait to have a phone that I don't need to cheapen by covering the design with a £10 bit of plastic.

eg what's the point of spending £700+ on a beautifully designed iPhone 6+ only to completely obscure the design by hiding it in plastic.

I think the market needs a good looking 'tuff' phone and I hope that the V2 is it :D
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I've wondered the same thing. Without affecting the fractal antenna or the fingerprint scanner, I'm not sure a case will work
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
hey guys we got some rear camera photos.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
New photos with saygus rear camera in twitter at 12.30AM TODAY!
[Saygus V²] t3chfan:
Does twitter compress photos? Hope so!
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
Sweet, good things and good PR are finally starting to shake their way to the consumers. Good to see they're starting to open the curtains up a little. It goes to show they've had the 21MP camera working since CeBIT and they're just finally starting to release photos now. Those pics were from Italy. They're holding out on us!

I'm sure there will be better things to come in the next few weeks prior to shipping. I bet we're gonna be pretty impressed with some of the features, they haven't even showed us yet. Bet they got a few other tricks up their sleeves they haven't even told us about yet too. Early call. :fingers-crossed:
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Twitter allows a 5mb maximum upload
[Saygus V²] t3chfan:
Yeah thought it was something like that, we'd assume that a high definition photo would exceed that so the ones on twitter are likely to be compressed.

Andreas, any chance you could ask the saygus guys to email you the original photos so you can upload them to your website and we can examine the originals?

Camera quality is also very important to me.

Thanks, and if the drip feed does continue we will be very happy.

I do wonder what a working unit is doing in Spain, so far from Utah...
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
I'm not a huge camera nut, but I might be with this phone... the low-light one looks incredibly good (from a technical standpoint, no idea about composition, framing, and whatnot.)

[IMG="low-light mode"]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDTHR0aW4AEYfig.jpg[/IMG]

I just had a horrible thought though, was this before or after they ditched the Sony sensor? :S
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
They ditched sharp for a Sony sensor, these photos should be from the Sony sensor.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Err... right! Yeah, that's what I meant. Were these taken with the Sharp or the Sony sensor?
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
If the cameras and battery life don't live up to the hype I'll go for a lg g4, which will be missing a lot of the v2 features.
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
The only feature I see unique is 2 sd cards.

Finger scanner is old now but it would be nice if all manufacturers applied it. Especially the apple design one like n3 has.
[Saygus V²] s-lps3:
Here is another diagram which is nice posted by tripletremelo , I think its a little more than just two sd cards it's a feature rich phone.
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
The only thing that is new on this device that other devices haven't done is fractal antenna and wireless beam
[Saygus V²] s-lps3:
The mid-frame is magnesium, the edges are Kevlar, and the sides are anodized aluminum. The device has a dedicated camera shutter button , and a fingerprint scanner (sorry it doesn't check your sugar levels):D

There are two front-facing speakers optimized by Harman Kardon sound technology. The battery is 3,100mAh with a power-saving chip, Saygus says you will get the same performance a 4,600mAh battery would provide.

The Phone has the new Corning Gorilla Glass 4, and new waterproofing technology IPX7 which can withstand incidental exposure to water of up to 1 meter for up to 30 minutes.

A 21 MP Rear Facing with OIS auto focus, with dual LED flash and a 13 MP Front Facing camera with OIS and Auto Focus.

So for me this phone is worth the money And since I'm on T-Mobile there are not to many phones with these specs unlocked at this price. Along with the other features.

Yeah I look at One Plus but I don't have time for games and yellow screens, refurbish phones with other consumers photos, and screen protectors sold as new. Along with all the other B.S they tell their consumers.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
The point is, for me, that you couldn't get all this tech in ONE phone, always compromises in one area or another. Even all the new flagship's coming will omit something, Qi charging or a fingerprint scanner or sacrifice battery size for slimmer body (moto x). Not to mention front facing speakers, only available on the HTC one until now. If it's as good as advertised phone geeks around the world will be drowling for this phone!
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Have other devices done the front and back light sensors or the double SD card? What about the Harmon Kardon speaker 3-d speakers? Also how many totally new innovations does any one phone bring to the table? 1 if we are lucky and 2 if we are really lucky. As another poster said, it's not really about any individual feature but more the collection of features on one phone. I feel like they targeted many of the best features on other phones and tried to bring them to one device.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
I agreed with you.. Saygus did was to put all tech available in current smartphone into one Saygys V2. I dare not say nobody has done the OIS camera for front and rear but we never know. China has many brands which has really nice rich-features but problem is that their brands mostly cater for their own market. I have seem many china brands producing far much cheaper and comparable spec to all major brands.

The one brand that can take on the sound techology on all our phone is HTC. They have some really good speakers on their phones.

For the SD card storage, never seen any brands with those huge storage but it is again a mystery because we don't know how the phone will perform with 2 SD cards.

As everyone here has said, this phone is truly worth every dollar but user-experience is not yet tested. We never know how it will turn out. Furthermore, they have gone into hiding since the pre-order period starts. Either its too overwhelming and their customer service just couldn't cope or perhaps demand too low so they thinking of how to solve it, thus no reply.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
You are totally correct. Right now its a wild card and all these features mean nothing if they can't marry hardware and software correctly. I share your concern about their invisibility since pre-orders.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
The point is that manufacturers can make a phone with all the "dream" features... Problem is this will affect many things.. The cost. The production.. Etc.. Major brands make many phones to cater to different needs and to generate sales... Actually its to make money and promote market presence in the already busy market with so many brands..

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I have a feeling its about 2500 units sold online.. Yea.. Its that amount of money.. Keeping in mind that they mentioned orders from 40 over countries. Not only that, one person can order max 10 units. But then again, you are free to cancel your order anytime.. At least they said you can return within 14 days of receiving it.

I wonder whats their company manpower size.....
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
I hope the first 2500 person will get extra battery and screen protector FOC :D
[Saygus V²] joe recipe:
Latest count of preorders anyone ordered lately?:eek:
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
True, but they compromised on the newer screen and newer processor ? as well as design.
[Saygus V²] mastewman:
Yes, they may of compromised but is this really? With the screen, I believe anything above ~300ppi, the human eye can't distinguish the difference in PPI. I also, believe the 1080p is the perfect resolution for a phone. And the 1080p screen, should be better on your battery because there is less pixels to maintain power too. Now, as for the processor, I read, the reason they went with the 801 processor was that it is a proven stable processor and easier to get certified with all the different carriers (I.e. Global phone)....
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
I have tried to call them. But it direct to a voicemail messages. And the thing is their voicemail inbox is FULL. I bet alot people have been leaving them a message.

I have never experience such a customer service.. Really bad..

Strong feeling that its gonna be a vaporware. To all, please prepare to have your money back.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
As mentioned above, there is very little benefit in more than 1080 especially on a 5 inch screen. Also keep in mind they still had to stay competitive in terms of price. The 801 chip set is fine for most people, my oneplus has it and I've never found a scenario that it can't handle.

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Ok, so if that happens we are out nothing. Whats the big deal? Did you pre-order?
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
...and the thing with the notion this could be vaporware is that we all just gave them $550 at 0% interest for who knows how long? They could keep that money for upwards of 3-6 months making interest on it the whole time! If invested aggressively that could fuel them some $50k in interest alone.

I give enough of my money to Uncle Sam, I'm not into giving corporate business a free loan so they can make interest. I sure hope this doesn't pan out to be vaporware. They will lose all credibility with the consumer if so.

Time will tell? :confused:

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Kinda interesting to note. Go to Saygus website, click on the link to Google Maps of where they are located and some of the live street views actually take you right inside their office building space, Suite 500 and allows you to walk around inside there office. If you look inside the offices, you can actually see name tags on office doors of the people who work there. In once instance you can see inside Chad Sayers office room slightly. You can see he likes Samurai swords, has a telescope in his office and from one view has a statue of liberty on or just behind his desktop.

What is a little disappointing to see is there are lots of empty desks, not much paper on anyone's desk or on bulletin boards and doesn't look like an office with a lot of clutter, activity or personal touches within? I like to see clutter and personal touches to some degree, shows personality, shows interests and shows character?

Check it out.
[Saygus V²] Omegaclawe:
Would be nice to get a photo comparison between the front and back... though I suppose it's probably better if they keep working on getting the phone ready, and leaving things like that to the initial users / reviewers.

...I mean, barring any further delays, I'm getting the phone whether or not it's Camera is the best thing ever.

Edit: New pictures being posted to Dropbox right now!.. apparently these are only 14-15megapixels, though.

One

Two

Three
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Full size samples are up on Twitter link to Dropbox
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
https://photos-1.dropbox.com/t/2/AA...c,dMLKam-3cpMAmJawahSVjbtHcr-crl3FiZzRZDCup6E

That Sony sensor looks to be really good.
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Must be still uploading. ..... got an error message
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Very impressive.

See? It doesn't take much to placate the masses.
[Saygus V²] Omegaclawe:
The first one they posted (of a flower) got taken down, apparently. Right when I tried to download it.
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Dear Saygus

I would purchase three V2s right this second if I saw a short video with two sd cards working, a phone call, lte data working, the fingerprint scanner working and then the device submerged in a bowl of water....... Go! :p

Albeit I'm dead serious.

PS Great pics Saygus..... thanks!
[Saygus V²] field893:
+1

thanks Saygus
[Saygus V²] tocirah1:
Fun fact, the EXIF data suggests the camera is f/2.0
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Really getting excited about this phone now! So happy I stayed with them through the dark period. :)

BTW, in case anyone missed it from xda news this morning, here's a neat article about the SnapDragon 80x chips vs. the 810. Looks like saygus made the right call on sticking with the 801:

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/in-depth-with-the-snapdragon-810s-heat-problems/

But yes, they need to demo fingerprint scanner, waterproofing, and/or dual SD/multiboot next. Drop tests would be super cool also, but I can wait on that one.
[Saygus V²] scomat:
For those like me that didn't know what that meant

An f/2.0 lens means that that piece of glass is capable of an f/2.0 aperture. Generally this means that f/2.0 is that widest aperture the lens has.* This type of lens lets a lot of light through and can be called a fast lens in the industry.* Fast lenses are able to offer faster shutter speeds and can work in lower light.* The faster the lens the shallower of a depth of field it can offer.* Fast lenses can be heavier and more expensive then alternatives that have even slightly smaller apertures.
[Saygus V²] hdtechk:
Saygus just posted new YouTube video I have got time to watch it tell get home check it out.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
I don't see it. The WiHD one has been there a couple days.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
28 days :)
[Saygus V²] bag123boy:
Explain this to me, in one of the pic it says it is from Spain. So that was the WMC and I though the rear camera wasn't working. Or they have so much free time to go vacation on spain.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
Saygus stated that the MWC ones had the sony sensor and that the cameras were working at MWC.

I'm guessing the one with the working camera wasn't one of the prototypes on display.
[Saygus V²] bag123boy:
Then explain how the heck the time line is legit, the sensors didn't come out till April.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
And HTC had a snapdragon 810 before the 810 was officially out. Saygus would have had a production sample, that may have been why we didn't see it at MWC due to NDA contracts. The Sharp sensor isn't out yet either.
[Saygus V²] bag123boy:
ok make senses! Now all there is to do is wait and pay for whatever shipping price is going to be. With standard and OVER NIGHT! XD $ 50 for overnight shipping?! anyone willing to pay for it!?
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
You better believe --- I'd pay for overnight in a heartbeat. Trying to keep money aside for the WiHD receiver too. I'm hoping the WIHD won't be too expensive. :D
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I'm still waiting to hear about back cover Color options.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Course May 22nd is on a freaking Friday, so if they ship it then and if I'm apart of the first batch to ship, it don't look like I'd get it till the following MONDAY even with overnight me thinks. What a stressful weekend that will be.
[Saygus V²] bag123boy:
Well at least for me that is a good date being that my college finals are done. And just have to wait patiently for the arrival. Just hope the shipping prices aren't ridiculous, bc it would be like the 50 dollars for the discount will be use for the shipping.
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
ANY one can confirm that these picture from Sony IMX230 sensor ? :)
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Is there public holiday at the end of May or at the beginning of June?
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Memorial Day. Monday, May 25th. D'oh.
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
I'm in Australia - $50 for shipping will be the economy option!!!
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Not much cancellation nagging lately. It all stopped around front camera samples. It would be funny to see if their orders went up since then. I expect new *****ing in a week or two weeks max. That is if they don't tempo their other demos: finger scanner, water resistance, battery chip... if they release demos - one per week, they just might stick to the end without significant order drop. Contact with customers DOES help.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
I bet they'll all be shipping from China and the cost will be similar for everybody.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Fudge!

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If thats the case then we won't get it till early June.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Nah. When I ordered my Moto X (2014) it shipped from China to Texas, then to California and I had it in three days. Free shipping.