yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jwzg:
Flashing now...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] faria:
and now i cant for the love of god make the caps lock icon appear:mad:

**** it....im posting it tomorow the first test....then people can find the fix for it....this is taking way to much time...just this single issue.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jwzg:
Be patient...I'm on it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jwzg:
Caps lock is fixed on my end. The phone settings are still not fixed at this point, and I still would like the full welcome back. I need to run a check on the orwell's rom registry to see what the hangup is, but it's late on my side of the world.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jwzg:
That key is supposed to be in the user.hv file. Not the default.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] faria:
i do not work with hives.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jwzg:
I'm using molski's stuff to edit, so we may not be on the same page. Either way that key should be under HKCU instead of HKLM. Check your PM's.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] faria:
rom is fixed... will upload tonite...thanks man.....i dont know how da hell i did that mistake.:confused:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] faria:
and the rom has quite a few changes compared to the one i took down.

i have included 2 apps;

taskmanager and pimbackup.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] carlosdude1991:
you removed the caps lock patch? does that mean that caps now broken and phone settings now fixed?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] faria:
yes all is fixed now.....but we have another problem now;

windows live seems that has expired today.....so i need to replace it the the new one....sligth delay:)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] faria:
good new ! i got the new window live!:eek:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] csdaytona:
jwzg,

Will you be releasing the 8MB pp version to everyone? If so, do you know when you'll have it ready?

I'd like to see a WM6 rom with speed in mind, such as 8MB pp, all the speed tweaks, etc. I'm currently using Faria's WM6 TRT ROM w/4MB pp and it feels so slow. I was previously using Faria's 3.3 8MB pp ROM and it was fast without ever overclocking it, I loved the speed!

Anyway, great job guys, keep it up!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Ranger666:
As we inch closer and closer..........

Keep up the good (hard and tiring) work, Faria.

YOU ROCK BROTHER!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jwzg:
I haven't cleared that with Jose yet, but maybe. I'm still testing the original version with the phone issues, and I hit a snag last night, as I got a bit overzealous on cleaning up stuff and x-button quit working. We'll see what happens.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] ClassicalDonkey:
Am i being dumb here but the link does not work!!! Am i over looking something, i know that the windows live problem, so am i just asking before it goes back up!!!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] moebius_serpico:
faria is the best

this is my first post and my english its very bad:)..faria i just want to say u, u have make me love my wizard so much i was close to sell him couse i dont like after put ur rom THE REAL THING i love so much my phone i still wait ur vanilla so much and im shure that will bhe so good and make me love this phone more...

THANKS FARIA
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nstefanelli:
faria took it down a couple days ago because there were some issues with the settings screens along with a caps lock problem, and right before faria posted it, he realized that windows live had expired, so we are still waiting on him to post the new version

-NStefanelli-
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] ClassicalDonkey:
Ok thankz, i thought that, but i just needed to check that i did not have to go and get my eyes checked!!!1
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nstefanelli:
no problem.. its what all of us are here for.. right?

-NStefanelli-
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] golfernutnflorida:
oh my, guess that was the problem with opening up windows live messenger and seeing an error message box with nothing in it..with a red x on it.......I saw that on Faira's WM5 rom also.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] dr-jo:
Hello,

Could you put it in remote loading, for tested on other apparatus, thank you.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] ClassicalDonkey:
Ok I have read and re-read the 3 pages and i can not find anything that tell me how much Play space there is in this Rom.

I am planning what i want to put in my own copy of this, and would be nice if i know how come i can play with!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nstefanelli:
Its a vanilla so it should have a considerable amount of free space.

-NStefanelli-
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] faria:
ther is less than 1 mb tp play....you all wanted as close to oem as possible....this is what you get im afraid...you can always remove stuff like i did.....

anyway....i have updated netcf to netcf service pack 2......

should i put zip in or rar...or nothing.....

also ther is no pdf reader at the moment to.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] ClassicalDonkey:
Ok what is in the rom then??? Cus i am looking for about 6 mb!!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nstefanelli:
if its exe you really dont have to do anything.. whats a couple more seconds of downloading time? please upload soon so we can play with it too

-NStefanelli-
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jwzg:
Faria,

Take out Flash. That's at least 1.3 MB. The copy of Live Messenger on my ROM is fine, unless I'm missing something. Can you just not send an IM or what?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jwzg:
Faria, if you can tell me how to fix the phone settings page without tearing down the ROM, or give me a good copy of the first vanilla you released, I have an 8MB PP version ready to go out for testing. I've been pulling my hair out all day trying to find the issue and nothing doing. I'm sure the caps lock fix is not to blame for that.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nstefanelli:
Faria has already done that, everything is fixed (as he has said) and everyone is just waiting for him to upload it now...

Please upload soon faria.. waiting...

=NStefanelli=
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jwzg:
In addition, if you keep updating with new stuff, you'll be Christmas getting it out. Just pack it w/netcf (no SP) and since you've already taken out SQL and catalog, you may have room for a PDF reader.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jwzg:
Yes I know. I'd just like to have a fixed copy of that first release...that's all. From what I understand, this next release is going to be quite different.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] ClassicalDonkey:
So what is the total Rom MB, When building it, how will i know if it will work before trying to re-build it?

And also, how come the basic rom is bigger then the Built one???? The other one has more in it!!! Strange!!!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] faria:
simple

my first rom does not have voip,drm.,bt-hdi, windows update and the one you mentioned above....

the clean one has all of that plus; phone pad 15 languages as a OEM.

as i said before in another tread....even carriers are removing stuff from the Roms like; remote desktop catalog etc....because the Roms have no space for their own app! this is the drawback of wm6...the rom images are bigger.

the dumped rom total size for a wizard cannot exceed 118Mb +-

if you add more than that, buildimgfs will give you an error when compiling the rom.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] faria:
after Reading the ntcf change log fro microsoft ...no wonder we have problems ...current netc2 is ridden with faults.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jwzg:
I don't doubt it. If you think you should change it then do. BTW, there's still a ton of entries left over from SQL and marketplace in the ROM.

I was digging around in a few of the .xml files in your first release and the marketplace catalog feature wasn't even intended for end users in this release. It was for demonstration purposes. There's so much bloat in this ROM (I'll quote another member here) it feels like an old Packard Bell.

I'll have mine "to go", thank you.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] faria:
same of them are required by others app including net cf.... and others....

this is how it works...we remove the packages and its including reg keys...

if ther is reg keys left ther is because are needed.

i also can quote another member; you will never please everyone ,theres is always buts!:D

and frankly whats does that user know about cooking Roms from RAW???
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jwzg:
I looked at my post and I certainly wasn't referring to your rom as bloated, though it may have sounded like it. I was just stating that this no longer feels like a mobile platform. Hope you didn't misunderstand.

I concur about pleasing everyone...it ain't happening.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] faria:
i know:)

i feels like they took an aku 1 rom and then just dumped all the other stuff as they went along....:eek:

sometimes we see suspect reg keys etc....we could take them out but then it may brake something...if aint broken...

what i cannot undestand from microsoft is ,why tha **** do they build the pacage ...but then put some reg keys in the pacage then put the rest in another!

maybe to make our lives hell...

an example...

VOIP is contained in 3 packages !why?! when one can do the job...nooo they have to spread the whole thing....same for mms ,VC etc.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jwzg:
Faria, this may be a subject for the developers forum, but I'll ask it here. You said you don't work with .hv files. What DO you use? XML?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] faria:
dsm and rgu files, then my kitchen converts them to hive when i build the rom automaticly....

i also do not use initflashes.dat....i use initflashes.txt....no need to take of bytes. the kitchen converts it to initflashes.dat

all the above files go into the packages.

this is how microsoft and HTC builds roms.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] calouro:
Faria,

Before I burn a costume ROM I always burn the T-Mobile ROM to get a clean IPL/SPL 2.26.

Can I burn the new official German T-mobile 3.3 ROM to upgrade to IPL/SPL 3.09 then burn your WM6 Real or this vanilla?

I haven't burnt the new T-mobile ROM yet.

Thanks,
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Ricci82:
i think yes...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] trojan9x:
Thanks for all the hard work so far Faria.

You still working on the radio stack support?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] thiss:
I've upgraded with the T-mobile 3.3 AKU and afterwards flashed with Faria's rom and it's still IPL3.09 and radio so the answer in my case is yes
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] trojan9x:
do you have a link to that new tmobile rom?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] trojan9x:
Nevermind. I think I found it. Hard to navigate not knowing German.

http://www.t-mobile.de/downloads/t-mobile/ruu_vario_aku3.3_3822_382120_026911_tmo_de_ger_ship.zip

Is there an easy way to translate the rom to english?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jbrw287:
thx faria for all the hard work!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] papamopps:
Is there any way to translate an english wm6 into german??
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] cuboosh:
wait for the WWE rom to be made.. thats the only way
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] umirza85:
With the new version of live is it possible to connect to messenger without having it sync your contacts?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] XRaptor:
What is the difference between vanilla and first Faria's WM6 ROM? And why "vanilla" - what does it mean?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] pencilcase:
Vanilla = free of additional apps / out of the box :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] trojan9x:
Vanilla is close to an OEM release.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] dy2592:
Hey Faria, was wondering when to expect this to be release. I'm sure you're working on it and doing whatever you can and it will be release when you say so but I just thought if I could get a turn around time on this so I dont go looking for another ROM to download in the meantime. Thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] faria:
had major trouble with my pc.... rom will go out to test in a couple of days......in still restoring the pc ....
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] webgrafix:
I see "WWE" a lot... not sure what the acronym stands for?

Anyone?

Thanks!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] edhaas:
WWE = "World Wide English"

Regards.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] webgrafix:
Thanks! I knew was something easy. :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] perm:
Big problem with Wm6 Vanilla, 2.19.11 Radio

Hello,

I would appreciate any help or suggestions. I am running Nottoosmart's Vanilla wm6 on a t-mobile wizard. The OS has been working fine for some weeks and it is fast.

If there is likely to be a difference, I would change to this Faria rom. But this one apparently is almost the same with the same radio code, so I presume this one will work the same in so far as voice quality?

The problem here is that voice quality is very poor. After some experimentation I noted that the range of audio gain is way too high and there is often feedback between the ear output transducer and mike. The net result is clipping and feedback which makes the voice quality sound very poor to the other end.

When the phone volume is reduced to zero, it is better, but still a problem. The volume control seems to have relatively little effect compared with WM5 (e.g. the volume control has diminished effect). Also, clearly the mike is feeding back and not blanking much, if at all, which suggests that AGC (automatic gain control) is not working well. I don't know what parts of the above, if any, are directly responsible for the poor audio quality.

I am aware of the other radio roms which have been mentioned here (e.g. 2.69 etc.) and have not tried these. However it sounds as they make the RF signal detection more or less sensitive, rather than affecting the audio. So I am reluctant to start experimenting, since others have already done that.

I will have to go back to WM5 unless I can fix this problem. Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks in advance for your help.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] edhaas:
OK, first of all I would ask on the Nottosmart thread about this. But first, search that forum (then the other forums) for registry tweaks regarding microphone settings for that rom. I think this issue has come up for various roms. I agree that the radio rom is likely not the problem.

Good luck..
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] golfernutnflorida:
I believe it was a cross post because I already provided the fix on the other thread.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] perm:
Gain problem- thanks

Thanks ed and gofur.

I will check the other thread. I did cross post because I wasn't sure, but thought the originally vanilla thread might be dormant.

I put in the cab fix and it made a huge difference. Works now thank goodness, but it seems like the gain may still be too high. I will grep to see if someone mentions the specific registry entries that are implicated. May need some further tweaking.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nicodekker:
Hi Faria,

Really looking forward to this ROM. Especially the fact that the Bluetooth profile is back to v3.3 looks good. I hope this will solve the problems I have with the handsfree profile with my carkit. This problem seems to exist in all WM6 versions I've tried until now.

Nico
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] boy_de_ghet:
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Thanks for this Faria. This is a clean as I need and want it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] b.mann:
extended ROM

when we're talking about the extended ROM with all the cabs and other stuff earlier, exactly what is it, and how much of a difference does it make to the available amount of free space i have to play with and load my own apps?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] edhaas:
OK, this stuff IS confusing. This is my understanding...

There is ROM, Extended ROM, Program Memory, Storage Memory, and optionally an SD card in your Wizard. The amounts of each are fixed and they are not interchangeable. Programs can be executed from ROM or Storage Memory or Program Memory (aka RAM). Extended ROM and the SD card can hold data or programs, but programs cannot be executed from them directly. They need to be copied into Storage Memory or RAM to be executed. Ram is also used for dynamic data, stacks, etc. by programs in ROM or Storage memory. This is the WM5-6 model. ROM memory is generally left alone by us mortals, however the "Chefs" use "Kitchens" to "Cook" their own ROMs and share these with those of us who don't have the time or ability to learn to do it ourselves. Extended ROM, is like SD card memory, and is largely ignorable if you have a large SD card. Phone companies set up programs and data in there to be loaded automatically after a hard reset, to customize the phones for their customers. Most of us need to decide if we are going to load our programs into Storage Memory (safe, but finite, and generally faster than SD card), or SD card (lots of space, but usually slower). Program memory is used by whatever programs we are actually using at the time, and in the background. So, if you have a large SD card, generally the extended ROM is not worth worrying about.

Hope this help. If any of this is incorrect, let me know..
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] b.mann:
thanks

yea i guess it does, still lost outta my mind :P

but i get it enough to get by
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] BennTech:
I see the thread title went from [on hold] to [Technical Discussion Only]. Does this mean Faria's WM6 Vanilla is not going to be released?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] mfrazzz:
According to Faria (a few days ago I think) this rom is in limited beta right now, so it is coming. I know when the title changed, Faria also updated some things in the first 2 posts. So its a work in progress, and hopefully we'll see it soon.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jwzg:
New beta ROM is very quick and clean.

Issues:

1) "Menu" option in "Windows Explorer" is greyed out.

2) I'd like to get the "wireless manager" option back in the connectivity bubble instead of just "turn wifi on". This was done in the first vanilla release. At least let us know how to do that. Win a trip to Oz!

3) Cannot remove certain items from menu. I know how to correct this in cooking the ROM, but it makes more sense to fix it before release.

I'll play with it more this afternoon and see what kinds of issues I can come up with. I'm sure there will be only a few.

can you please post a screen shot?

honestly i have no idea ...i guess it was something to do with the connection bubble fix that i put in the first vanilla.

this is hard to fix since my wizard has a dead wifi radio!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Tsuioku:
Do you mean the Start Menu? There was a similar problem in Faria's 3.3... It was caused by duplicate shortcuts in both the Start Menu and the Programs folder. If you can remove one of them, it should work properly. If this is not the case, please disregard...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jwzg:
As I said, that change has to made during the cooking phase. The other two issues are of more importance because they actually deal with registry or file changes.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] faria:
did you not get a email from me? my email server is playing up......let me know....
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] faria:
ther is 3 duplicates ......this is because there is a copy in the program folder.....i left them there..... so people would not ask where is messaging icon etc..... this can easily be removed by me .
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] faria:
depending in the final version.......you will have 1 to 6 mb....free space....but people want as it come from factory...this will be less than 1 mb....now if i remove usselles stuff like windows update ,msql server etc... you will have up to 6 mb,,,then if you remove VOICE COMAND....you will have close to 10mb.....removing windows live will give you another 3-4 mb....

this is a cach 22 from were im standing.....

im also tryng a new tecnique...in my hermes.....this saves up to 6mb of rom space with out removing stuff....will see how it plays... so far so good...if ther is no problem this will be implemented in the wizard.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jwzg:
What about the greyed out menu.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] faria:
post a screnshot of that problem....i honestly dont know what you talking about.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jwzg:
I may need to re-download the ROM. I'll do that in a few minutes. We're watching the re-run of American Idol right now, so I have time. LOL

JB
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jwzg:
Sorry Jose, I didn't see that you'd edited my original post. BTW, I found out how to get the Wireless Manager back in the bubble. I may have the answer to getting the off/on option back, but this will take a bit of tweaking.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] mfrazzz:
Hi Faria, nope no email from you.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] faria:
crap msn email......check your pms
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] edhaas:
Latest build suggestion:

Just my 22 cents: Remove all the useless stuff, like windows update (won't work on a custom ROM anyway), and msql server. I personally would like voice command, but I would like the US version, and that wouldn't please everyone.

I personally like it when you throw in all the stuff you usually do. I can ignore the things I don't like, so no loss to me. I wonder if many people understand that its to their benefit to fill the rom with as much as the chef can, because then they don't have to use up their own storage space. The extra space in rom is just wasted as its not accessible or usable by the vast majority of people who don't "cook" anyway.

Having said that, if you are offering this as a base rom for other cookers, then strip it all the way down. I also prefer a slightly larger page pool, but I don't care too much as I've recently learned how to change that myself!

Regards and Thanks,
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] trojan9x:
Faria, did you get to put the updated radio stack in this rom?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] masr1979:
Faria strip it of all apps that we can later install (Voice Command, PIMbackup, TaskManager) maybe put up some links separate links to the apps or their release threads. If there are things that we won't be able to use as well it's pretty safe to say that non will miss them. I could be wrong, but personally I rather have it as clean and useful as possible.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] golfernutnflorida:
Yes clean clean clean, maybe the only thing is put in msn messenger. Leave out all the other stuff in your fully packed rom.