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[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
We have humans having relations with animals. We live in a crazy world ;)
[Saygus V²] zelendel:
I think the same thing to myself when ever I see someone say that.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
IMHO USB type C is too small for this.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
But it has 4k video and Wihd.... Ehh I'll stop there.
[Saygus V²] scomat:
Lol...Dude!....i just spat my pint out.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
But it works faster
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Maybe for a mouse:rolleyes:
[Saygus V²] minatour44:
810 snapdragon in trouble again, good decision saygus :)

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2015/06/sony-xperia-z3-camera-crashes-in-seconds/
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Seriously? What of the 820? Heck the new Nexus will have many of the features that this Saygus superphone will have first... First!

Saygus V² not so segment leading, feature rich any longer:cyclops:
[Saygus V²] minatour44:
801

sorry i should have been more specific, seems like they had made a good decision at the time, certainly its becoming out of date by the #sagusminute , and at the rate we are going, I expect to find a unicorn first.

Im getting closer to bailing out like im sure like a lot of others. It was the first phone I would leave iphone for. so clinging on for a few more weeks....
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
It depends on what you are valuing. I still don't see a phone that boasts the spec sheet anywhere near that of the Saygus phone. The manufacturing-level water-repellant, battery tech are still industry leading. I won't be doing many frontflip with the Saygus phone though.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
While we do not know the final specs the Saugus may have, they are slowing narrowing the list of "industry firsts". Keep in mind, these are only "industry firsts" when the device is a viable product.
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
I do wonder why they released knowledge of the 128gb demo model though - if the V2 came standard with this then that would explain the delays better than the type c and dual SIM as these are really nothing upgrades.

That would go a long way towards building good will and market buzz too.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
I would think changing the layout to accommodate two sim cards is way more complicated than swapping out a memory chip.
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
Yes, but I think the bigger ram would have a bigger marketing impact, it would have been part of an overall redesign.

I've had dual SIM phones for years they aren't that useful and you double your radiation which no one with good sense will do for extended periods.

It's only really useful in the third world where communication between networks is still dodgy so you need a SIM for each network - this isn't the sort of person going to buy a $650 phone.

My MediaTek phone is dual SIM, I use one SIM and a redirect to this number, no need to have my overseas number "hot" all the time.

Just conjecture but you have to wonder.
[Saygus V²] trompeusz:
Bigger ram need Soc change. SD801 has a 32bit processor. For more then 3,5 GB RAM 64bit is required.

BTW. After a month I've finally get my refund. I've lost only 50$ because my credit card company's currency exchange rate. (from Saygus I've got my 549usd, which arrived to my ccc in euro, and they put to my romanian lei account)
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
This is awesome yet pathetic. Kinda like a hispanic soap opera. ....hot women yet the plot sucks lol.
[Saygus V²] strikelight:
Looks like I finally received my refund as well after 24 days.
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
It sounds like you're fishing for an FCC doc somewhere. Does our phone have to go through that before the phone can be sold stateside? Does the Alcatel Onetouch Idol 3 have an FCC doc?
[Saygus V²] zelendel:
If a device is "officially sold" in the US it dies need fcc approval. This doesn't hold true if you say import a Xiaomi device that is sold by website but only intended for some countries. Then no it doesn't need fcc approval.

That was the last I checked on the fcc site. Was years ago so could be wrong.
[Saygus V²] theleftykid:
after the indie campaign, people have to wait another 4 months to hear their BS replies and reassurance. then talk abouy upgrading SoC to the latest one. then advertise again on what's new so they can make another campaign. and people have to wait another 4 months. and then it goes on and on. yhen they get heaps of money from their investment.. hooray!!!
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
Yes it needs to be FCC certified before it can be sold stateside. Saygus' FCC ID is "XP3". Searching for all "XP3" documents only reveals the Saygus V1. No V2 listed yet. Testing usually takes a couple of weeks (probably longer for a company with not much prior testing history, like Saygus), so considering there's no documents at all, it looks like the V2 won't be out (at least in the US) for a while.

[And before anyone raises a fuss about "FCC confidentiality", Saygus can only require the test/picture documents to be temporarily confidential. It doesn't keep the FCC from publicly displaying an entry in their database, and they cannot make the confidential request document itself confidential.]

The Alcatel OneTouch Idol 3 (5.5) is indeed in the FCC database. Search for Grantee Code: 2ACCJ, Product Code: N002
[Saygus V²] Purest:
Sounds a camera sensor issue not the processor.
[Saygus V²] Sam K:
The camera sensor in the Sony Z3+ is supposedly the same one that's in the Z3 so why would it be an issue in the Z3+ and not the Z3?
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Nope, plot sucks as well. Some screenwriters here tend to be as bad as it gets.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
As Charlie said plot sucks. And at this point the hot girl is getting older with wrinkles.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Actually it seems they're having trouble finding a workaround for their buggy clock.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
This is the first I've heard of a buggy clock. What do you know? Just slap Timely on there and move on.

In other news...Saygus said last Thursday they'd have an unboxing video up that day or the next. Nothing yet.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
It is very complicate to do - they don't wanna disappoint us, because I'm sure we won't like unboxing of empty box.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
As I said, they do have issues with their clock. For some reason, it's between 24 hours and 3 months slow at any given time! :P

(I'm joking; I don't know of any issues with the clock on the V", if it actually does exist.)
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Sorry, I'm slow today. More coffee needed.

They said on twitter they're tuning the last frequency band right now. This makes me think they haven't submitted it the FCC yet.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Oi lets get back on tract
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
SayGus company name evolution: SayGus, SayBS, SayBuz, SayTruth and last but but not least - SayJoke. Slowly-slowly moving towards SayEnd.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
Don't forget my personal favourite...
[Saygus V²] slowpok22:
I want dovetails on my box, made from curly Maple or a nice figured Walnut ?

Might as well give the box a nice French Polishing since the wait is so long.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
Check out [MENTION=2521519]newrock[/MENTION]stars's Tweet: https://twitter.com/NewRockstars/status/614141413085855744?s=09
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Seriously...they made an unboxing video and did nothing but rattle off the specs that we already knew from January...the software wasn't even complete...I'm getting sick of this. If they can't even do this then how am I to expect future support on this device?!
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
I'm super stoked about the new emotion sensor. What do you think it's reading right now?
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
WTF?! This is not unboxing video - this is another SayBS!!! :eek:
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Looking at the clowns on twitter, at this "unboxing" video, at Indiegogo fiasco, lack of information, missing FCC certification - it is total SayRIP...
[Saygus V²] nutzuTo:
That was the most lame unboxing ever what a clowns,they just trow one of their engineering phone from that show , a cable and they have and unboxing video for the gullible ppl :)
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
I'm just happy I saw the phone boot ;)
[Saygus V²] waterplanet:
I'ts an unboxing video.... in a very literal sense.
[Saygus V²] vertigo_2_20:
That's what I thought at first, but it could very well be the CPU, as recording at that high resolution would be very CPU-intensive due to encoding. There's not really enough information in that article to say one way or the other, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's due to the CPU overheating.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
I heard they were going to use a nice Birdseye maple or Rosewood from the Yucatan.

Rumor has it, that Chad may be in Cuba right now swinging a deal for 500 (yet to be produced V squared cell phones) in exchange for 10,00 boxes made from native Mahogany :laugh:
[Saygus V²] pah2602:
OMG what a pile of ****. That is the fakest unboxing I've ever seen. And comments are disabled on the video?? How much did saygus pay that douche?
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Good grief. ....all this negative sarcasm :p
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
I'm glad that they've released (hopefully) the first of many unboxing videos, but I'm still waiting to see the new V-squared logo on the front screen.
[Saygus V²] mikemaddux:
Sounds like trouble in paradise!
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
I knew they are clowns and here the proof from video description:
[Saygus V²] prasathvishnu:
yeah, they meant it exactly. Its wrong from our side to have expected other way :(
[Saygus V²] phixeus:
Randomly made by someone else but sums up my feelings at this point. This wait is getting old, just tired of thinking about it.

[IMG="Say Gus Again"]http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/59373501.jpg[/IMG]
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
June 30 huawei honor 7 and Meizu mx5 will be announced/launched
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
MX5 is too big. Samsung Galaxy S6 mini could be very promising. Also Xperia Z4 compact. And many chinese phones close on the heels of SayGus, which is actually another chinese phone, we have to admit it.
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
I got a Z1 compact on Amazon for $250, essentially the same SoC, camera, waterproof, size, weight, card slot, plugs into a TV, and if you're into Games then it doubles as a PlayStation with PlayStation controllers.

And it exists, with lots of info already available to mod it.
[Saygus V²] Purest:
Damn they sure are on top of their facebook, I ask about LTE-A and if first preorderers get what was promised to them still, such as "Tempered glass screen protector, over priced headphones, extra battery and no restocking fee". Oh and if we even get a charger since the "unboxing" video didn't show a charger just a usb cable. They deleted the comment within a couple minutes.
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
What I find the most entertaining of all these posts is that literally no one would care about the delays, the wait, the BS communication, the amateur-ish interface with their customers.......if Saygus hadn't taken money from everyone beforehand. It's the only reason for the frustration and the impatience. Honestly, if you had no $$ tied up in this endeavor, would you really care how long the delays are or how bad an unboxing video was or how petulant their Twitter "updates" are?
[Saygus V²] phixeus:
I guess it isn't surprising, and lame, that they wouldn't want all of the Indiegogo contributors to know about the extras that the preorderers are supposed to get.
[Saygus V²] theleftykid:
hahaha.. this unboxing is just hilarious. can't fool us SayBS.. when will this company learn their lesson and make their customer happy. now that they have raised the funds they wanted the next big thing is to wait for another month for their announcement on "delayed shipping". and it goes on and on. trust me guys, i work in Saygus apparently. that's how we run our company. :)
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
There won't be another "delayed shipping" notice because they haven't given a shipping date. Apparently they're still "tuning the antenna" (and the camera according to twitter) which means they haven't submitted it to the FCC or the carriers for approval. I'm guessing a September delivery for us early order suckers, and November for IGG.

I should unsubscribe from this thread, and their Twitter, and forget about it. Then I'll be pleasantly surprised when/if the long forgotten Saygus V2 shows up on my doorstep.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I'm seriously considering the nubia z9 or LETV s1 pro.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Looks like V2 will be released next year: https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/615066326613164032.
[Saygus V²] xtermmin:
Where are you getting "next year" from that?
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Year, I admit, I'm too much optimistic.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Probably when he's going on his next trip:silly:
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I'm not too upset about the wait just the empty promises and tinkering of definitions. There are really good phones coming around in this price range (oppo r7 plus, letv s1 pro, huawei honor 7, meizu mx5) and some really good ones that have dropped to below this price (blackberry passport and note 4). I'm becoming uncertain if saygus is the type of company I want to do business with. Still love the theory of the phone though
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Hopefully, I can get V2 in my hand before next trip. My next trip is on August 5. I missed a chance to bring Saygus V2 on May 30 trip.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
I'm afraid you will not get the V2 in your hand for the rest of your life.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Dream phone is still in the Dream
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Some people love the abuse, the tease and empty promises. I just absolutely loved how the little fangirls pop up like little spoiled brats crying about being negative. I'm mean you clowns beg for it roflmao!!!! Where's that indian guy with his philosophical view on business and life, barking his melodramatic BS?

Strange no? I maybe I'm the weird one. IDK but you guys should get out and try to score some poon.

Queue Journey song please. ..

"Don't stop, believing.....
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
Dam you!!! You got Journey in my head lol

Concert in 30 day's woohoo...
[Saygus V²] phixeus:
I need the phone to help me pull the poon. "Look, baby, this sucker wirelessly streams games to a TV. I only had to wait 6 months for it. Now give up the poon."
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Thank you for another one useful and constructive post.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
We also must thank SayScam for very usefull posts on their twitter account. 6 weeks after shipping SayBS V2 to buyers, but no sign of phone, no sign of delivery information, only deceiving "taking preorders on Indiegogo" hiding the point that any "preorder" can turn easily into airblow.
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Anytime :p

You know it ..... after all what's left? Don't forget I was defending these incompetent liars two months ago.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
As was I.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Charlie, you get the golden medal every-time you post!

I'm also missing that nervous Indian guy. I miss his aversion toward non-believers and suspicious members of the holy SayBS
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Honestly I don't do it to troll or be a stick in the mud.

But damn people snap out of it. Yes this phone sounds perfect for me as well. But FFS people. All they had to do is be DEAD HONEST. And show real progress. Not insult the very people supporting them by repeating the same lies, delay tactics and same old demonstrations.
[Saygus V²] hdtechk:
Don't know but if I didn't already have a NEXUS 6 I would get a refund so I could buy one. I guess I could have 2
[Saygus V²] sonhy:
with the s6 active out, maybe i should get a refund, there's always a chance the waterproofing has issues like the s5 (and that's after years of practice).

just cant get over the internal battery, no sd slot on the s6 active.

its just so much easier to swap a battery than be tethered to a portable charger.... ahhhh god damn 1st world issues!
[Saygus V²] Soltkemecsei:
My Photoshop Jedi, if Saygus does not worth a penny, then why they worth you to spoil your respect here with your conception-driven unprofessional statements and childish behavior?
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
The only childish behavior came from the blind Saygus fanboys, who keep defending this farce for no reason
[Saygus V²] hypoPLAsm:
Finally got my refund.:) Took a while, though. Who sticks to the presale?
[Saygus V²] phixeus:
Congrats on your refund. Drop back and let us know what you went with instead.

I'm still sticking in there and hoping for the best. But I have to admit that I'm annoyed as hell at the at how child-like Saygus sounds when they say "Well, we've screw up scheduling and coordinating things twice so we aren't even going to try to understand how long it takes now."

I can only imagine how they could have advertised this thing more honestly so that I could have made a more informed decision. The Saygus home page should have had disclaimers that looked something like:

Possible delivery delays of 4-6 months

Manufacturer subject to change

Hardware subject to change

Development team unproven

Unable to afford to hire scheduler

Communication spurious

"Mistaken" communication likely

Refunds take a while and you'll just have to eat the exchange rate difference

Any other disclaimers you guys think they should have put out there for all the folks who preordered?
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Company can vapor with VaporProduct and buyers money

Employees can lie frequently

Customers could be treated like an idiots
[Saygus V²] mklpickle:
Looks like Saygus has a Dirty A$$

Randomly went to the main Saygus site. Got the attached message. Hopefully it's just hemorroids, but could possibly be colon cancer. I'm thinking this is why we haven't gotten our phone yet....
[Saygus V²] mklpickle:
Looks like they got some baby wipes....
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
I think you were on the wrong side of the website ;)
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
Their Twitter account had gone strangely quiet, even their biggest "fans" have stopped tweeting.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
With the staggering success of their Indiegogo campaign you'd think their new fans would be all abuzz about it.

People not caring about the phone is worse than people enraged because they don't have it yet.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
I think they have great success there on Indiegogo. They've managed to "sell" almost 400 "phones" just in 2 weeks - about 30 a day. Who from big names had such success in past 10 years? Apple? Samsung? Xiaomi? Nobody! They didn't sell even one V(irtual)' phone! SayScam has beaten all big players in industry with these "sales". :good:
[Saygus V²] phixeus:
I would have to agree that an additional 400 phones is pretty dismal sales. Especially when a company like OnePlus sells 500,000 units and expects to sell over 1 million. I don't think they are getting their money out of this new marketing firm they are using.

I'm thinking that since they haven't really built or delivered even one phone yet, they could be promising the world to boost sales. They wouldn't even have to worry about accomplishing it until late December (the official end of Fall) to meet the "Fall" delivery promise. And then they can just push the date out further when they can't deliver. They seem to have had a lot of practice at that, so it shouldn't be too hard to do it again.

Since they seem to make promises all the time and not deliver, here are some of the things they should be promising to boost sales:

3D Screen

Built in 1080p projector

Curved Screen

Holographic projected keyboard

Battery upgraded to 10 Ah

Money printing capability

Transforms into robot

Any other promises that could be made to boost sales?
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
I think the following will boost the sales tremendeously

Anti-missile defence

4 Wheel Drive

Stealth invisibility. Wait - this feature is already implemented.
[Saygus V²] hypoPLAsm:
Although it doesn't meet the requirements I had towards the V2, I'm now very happy with the Meizu MX4 Pro. It has some other pros for me, though.;)

However, I'm still very curious if, how, and when Saygus will deliver.
[Saygus V²] crazedgod:
The one feature that every owner wants:

Lay a golden egg every day
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
WTF are they doing really? The phone was "nearly finished" in May and has been getting "finishing touches" and "coming soon" since.

I mean it's just a bunch of off the shelf parts slapped together after all, no real design, no real innovation.

They didn't do R&D, and they aren't even building it themselves.

I'd be willing to bet money that it comes with stock Android too so all the "customizations" they are "doing" are likely pure BS again too.

I could have called a Chinese white label factory and "made" my own SymbianRefugee branded phone by now, especially if I had a pocket full of stolen pre-order cash.

So WTF are they really up to? (Besides being incompetent, bumbling liars)
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
Sorry, but what phone you're talking about?
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
lol, I thought "incompetent, bumbling liars" would have been the give away there..... V(aporware) 2 of course.
[Saygus V²] aspid667:
I'm terribly sorry, but nobody has promised real phone. It was "dream phone" so it will be delivered in "dream" manner.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
yeah, but those off the shelf parts are probably fairly limited in smartphone land. and in the quantities these guys want they most likely have to settle for sloppy seconds for any of them. what smartphone company orders in lots of 1,000 ? what supplier sells in lots of 1,000? the parts and all the darn goofing around have most likely pushed the cost above $650 per device. i heard that the pre-order folks have 90 days to register a complaint with saygus about the handling of their money and after that it would be accepted legally that the pre-order individual has given ok to the transaction. at that point, end of sept, saygus can fold and owe no one a thing. they would have about 200 phones out of the venture.
[Saygus V²] phixeus:
I've got about 1100 USD tied up right now with Saygus but the LG G4 is starting to looking pretty sweet. I could add wireless charging aftermarket. Battery is replaceable. The only deal-breaker is that the damn speaker is on the back. Thanks, Saygus, for help teaching me patience and how to weigh all my options, you guys are the best!

I remember as May 22nd was approaching, people were starting to get pretty edgy about the shipment/delivery of the phones. And there was this huge group of people who were telling everyone to calm down, and how Saygus was doing what it promised. They kept talking about how everything was going to work out just as planned if everyone just calmed down. Every time Saygus gave another tweet saying that things were on schedule, they were like, "See I told you so". Where are those people? Did they just leave me here alone with you guys to turn off the lights if/when this thing goes South?
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
Here's how a real company shows progress, leaks....

The MS 1030, could be #worththewait

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Lumi...lete-with-Microsoft-and-Verizon-logos_id71054
[Saygus V²] alexanseris:
I hate to say that, but sometimes I feel Microsoft is worse than Saygus.. All that awesomeness created by Nokia, and it is still run by Nokia staff
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
You are gonna find them barking in their Facebook group, asking people to keep the faith and wait for the awesome incredible Sayscam V2. I actually don't know if those guys are idiot and dumb enough to keep saying that faith sh** every time or they work and got paid by SayBS.
[Saygus V²] SymbianRefugee:
Since ALL tweeters stopped on the same day, all the very active fans stopped all at once and NO tweets at all for two days I'd say they were paid and the contact is now finished for them.

Astroturf. would you have expected any better?

If they had even one working prototype they could have had someone do a real review by now, say send one to our very own Mr Stark for review.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
Check out [MENTION=6700101]SayG[/MENTION]us's Tweet: https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/616368666121228288?s=09
[Saygus V²] Steven_Richard:
Waiting next week for another video...
[Saygus V²] 008freak:
Already requested my refund a couple days ago. Guess I'm going with an HTC m8 or z3c.