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[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
LOL

Guess they want us to purchase even more;)

From today:

Dear TontStark,

JUST 24 HOURS LEFT!

With just few weeks before scheduled shipping, we wanted to remind you that there are only 24 hours left to order your V² and receive the special Pre-Registration Sales Package - which includes the extra battery and the custom designed glass screen protector - for the original price!

$549 USD!

PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS OFFER IS ONLY FOR THOSE WHO PRE-REGISTERED.**

The end of this promotion is Friday, May 1 at 11:59PM MST (06:59 Saturday, May 2/GMT)​

We are including the rest of the below information from our original email regarding this offer.

We have compiled a list of reasons why you should order your V² now:

You will probably never see a lower price. We expect carriers to sell the V² for no less than $650 USD, but could be as much as $850-900 USD!

Where else can you get the all the features of the V² in one device?!

Order now to secure your place in line so you don’t have to wait to get it later!

The more orders we get, the easier it is for us to build “The Next Big Thing” and have it waiting for you just around the corner.

You just got that fat tax refund, time to spend it! :)

Face it...you’re tired of having your phone die every day because you ARE a media junkie.

You secretly confess, only to your therapist, that you fanaticize about watching TV while sun bathing.

You’re tired of crappy photos.

You’ve had enough of the trillion dollar companies building sub-par phones. You’ve had the rest. Now you want the best!

You’re a fan of the best tech out there.

You’ve always dreamed of “Singing in the Rain” with your phone…now you can!

You’ve been saving up all those cat videos to watch on your big screen TV using the V²’s Wireless HD beaming technology.

You’ll finally be able to blow up and inspect all those photos from your latest trip to Loch Ness on your big screen TV and decide for yourself if Nessie is real!

You’re tired of getting the error message “Memory Full” right before you take what you think will be the best photo or video of your life.

Who wouldn’t want nearly a ½ terabyte in their pocket?!

…and finally, can you live with yourself if you’re not the first one on your block to have the coolest smartphone ever made?!

E-mail: info@Saygus.com

+1.801.748.1780
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
It's been exactly 1 week since their last tweet, I wouldn't worry too much about it. I don't think they "owe" us much more info other than notifying us when the first shipment has gone out.

What makes you not believe that the person is in the hospital? We heard that almost first-hand from Saygus through Andreas. Given that Chad is still in China and the twitter person is in the hospital, I find it very easy to understand how managing the twitter account would become a lower priority this close to launch time.

Sure, we'd all like to see more information; but we placed an order with much less info than we have now; and all the information they have given us confirms what they've been telling us. Even if we hear nothing until the 22nd (which I think is unlikely), I think I'd be OK with that. They've convinced me they're not doing anything under the table.
[Saygus V²] Lightroom:
Look up this app the best fhoto app and if sensor is raw compatibel then you can use that fhotoapp.

FV-5

http://www.camerafv5.com/
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
This seems to be not good at all.

A law suit against Chad Sayers... Could this be repeated again?
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
:svetius:

:good::svetius::svetius:
[Saygus V²] mbfdias:
In the US, if you're not sued, you're not considered a true citizen lol

What matters is, can they deliver now.
[Saygus V²] Zinguy:
Track Record

His track record does not look good. Each company he has been involved with fails to provide what it claimed it would. Utah court records show a storage company being allowed to sell Saygus office equipment to recoup losses from non payment after the V1 fiasco.

This is NOT trolling. This is factual information that you can research for yourself. One can choose their opinions but one can not choose their facts.

I want the V2. I want it bad. I can not find a single phone that appeals to me given what I am hoping for with the V2.

I'm not much liking what I'm reading though.
[Saygus V²] porkandbeans:
Lets look at what we know. 1. The Saygus V2 is awesome, as indicated by many of us who post to this website and have actually preordered it, in hopes of getting it in our greedy little hands as soon as possible. 2. The Saygus V2 has been confirmed with a shipping date of 5/22 by Saygus themselves, who even threw in an extra goody for us! 3. We are now in May, and some people are getting really skiddish. No need to be bitter or mean. My message to all: We will have the V2 in just a few short weeks. Relax, take a deep breath, get your 2 micro sd cards ready, buy your wireless charging pads, for soon we shall all enjoy the true awesomeness which Saygus will provide to us all!!
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
+1 :)
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
Interesting indeed.

You're such a good little consumer. You seriously sound like a paid advertiser though.

The V2 isn't awesome, the supposed spec sheet is awesome. For all anyone knows, the V2 (as published) actually truly doesn't exist. No one has ever seen it. I'd highly recommend people not go out and buy a bunch of cr*p like SD cards and charging pads and accessories until you get the phone in hand and confirm it all works as spec'd.
[Saygus V²] saantiago:
As someone who handles business litigation every day that is super sketch.
[Saygus V²] tipocool:
1. The Saygus V2 may be awesome. We don't know. No one has actually had a fully functioning device in their hand and Saygus will not be sending out any review units prior to shipping.

2. Shipping has already been delayed once.

3. Just being realistic. If it's as great as they say, get a few to reviewers. I'm sure we would all like to hear an independent assessment of this phone's capabilities.

I want this to be an awesome phone, but I'm definitely not throwing any more money into accessories until I have proof.
[Saygus V²] porkandbeans:
That's funny, but no I'm not a paid advertiser. As far as the accessories, I already have my 2 micro cards ( 128gb each, authentic Sandisk purchased on sale), and am getting ready to order myself a couple of CHOE Stadium Qi Wireless Charger Pad off of Amazon. I'll also buy a couple of WiHD dongles when I pay for the Saygus V2 shipping. Regardless of how some may feel, I'm excited and am getting all of my ducks lined up. This is so exciting! I can't wait!!
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Why

Why are people constantly trying to sway opinions on the phone or the companies credibility? Just make the decision that works for you. Everyone is so worried about being right.
[Saygus V²] porkandbeans:
It's true that there aren't any full reviews out currently ahead of official launch, but the way I look at it, when all the cool tech sites are reviewing the Saygus V2 and are giving it high ratings, I will already have the device in my hands. When the price of the V2 goes up, I will already have the device in my hands. If there is a shortage of the V2 due to high demand, I will already have the device in my hand. When my girlfriend comes home tonight......just kidding. Anyway, I rolled the dice and preordered, without first getting a full review of the device. Just the idea of supporting a smaller business, who had the guts to create a device others just wouldn't, a device that I really want to spend my hard earned on, is kinda like the sports term, a Cinderella story. If Saygus launches the V2 on schedule, and if the Saygus V2 does what the company is saying it can do, then we are potentially witnessing what is known in boxing as a TKO.
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Yet some folks around here want to play fan-boy and harshly criticize fellow XDAers if we ask too many questions or seem doubtful about the V2 and Saygus in general.

I could have used my awesome promo but I passed. Knowing a bit of their past and how little was demonstrated.

That being said. I hope the device is a success. I'm just not willing to even call my credit card company to do a charge back. I'm too busy to bother with that. Let someone else be the guinea pig.

As well as a two year old processor only capable of 32 bit proc. It's an over clocked 800 chip that came out almost two years ago.

Albeit I would still buy a V2 "if" it's rock solid...... if.

And who knows. I think I see a Sammy S6 Active in the near future if this doesn't work out.

None the less best of luck team Saygus.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
I called my bank yesterday and they told me that I can make a claim within 60 days of transaction and get my refund back. So, I placed my order yesterday. I'm gonna wait till June 1st. If I did not get the phone, I will ask for a full refund.

You are right ... Saygus V2 is great on paper. We were not able to see the most astonishing claimed features yet.

- No real unboxing.

- No fully functioning unit.

- No back and front facing camera demo.

- Do them really have OIS?

- Do the dual Micro SD really work the way they advertised?

- What is Sunlight Viewable Screen technology and how does it work?

- Any demo for Fractal Antenna Technology or a comparison with the regular one?

- No info about the side biometrical scanner yet. Is it swipe scanner or touch recognition one like the one in the iPhone? how does it work?

- What is the Cypher Sound Technology? Any ad or sound graphs ?

- what is the Armored Online Mobile Security?

- Is it really Harman Cardon stereo speaker? could they show it and compare it with the great one on the HTC One?

- How the power saving chip works, and is it really 50% improved the 3100 mAh batttery life? any data of battery life , like in calling, web-browsing, video playing ?

- Does the V2 have WaterProofing technology? Why didn't they show this awesome feature yet?

The only good feature that they really densely advertised was the WiHD.

I had same concerns before releasing OnePlus One, But I felt totally satisfied after having it.

We as customers have the full right to investigate and ask like those questions. I don't know why some users here feel angry if some one tried to search and ask about a company that had a bad record in their first phone (V1).

We are here in this forum to discuss, discover and share our opinions ,,, We are not blind fanboys... This is a new company and we are wanting to purchase its first product.

Saygus is not Apple or Nokia .. We are paying hundreds of dollars and we have the right to know everything about the phone and its manufacturer history.

By the way, Saygus team on Twitter favorites my comment. So, they are available at this moment.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
and for everything (OLD) that can be found on Saygus/Chad, there are many (NEW) better reviews

Dated April 17 2015

Utah Business Magazine
[Saygus V²] porkandbeans:
Great Article! Winning Best of State!! Congrats Saygus!
[Saygus V²] bob90210:
You should not use press releases from the company as evidence of better reviews of the company.
[Saygus V²] chrisingrassia:
“Utah is known as a hotbed of innovation,” said Chad Sayers, Founder of Saygus.

:confused: :rolleyes:
[Saygus V²] Omegaclawe:
Truth be told I've always been prepared for if they won't provide the phone, or it's a scam, etc. I can get my money back (card), and probably get a G4, I suppose.

Besides which, there'd probably be a decent class-action lawsuit against them if they never ship. It's not like we're backing a kickstarter, here.
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
As far as I'm aware, Utah is in the USA where law suits being filed are a dime a dozen, so possibly!
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Utah business magazine ..... unbiased? Perhaps....or.... perhaps not....

But thanks for the link anyway.

We are all here because we share some excitement over this device. In any event good luck to all pre-orders in general.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
It's really time for Saygus to release some new Intel. Natives are getting restless with speculation.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Saygus/status/594292333736144896
[Saygus V²] saantiago:
I suppose one option we can do is contact Harmon/qualcom/google/gorilla glass to see if they even have a contract/license agreement with saygus. If they don't then we would know 100% this is a scam.
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
The paranoia is now reaching ridiculous levels - this phone has been widely publicised over the past 5 months; don't you consider that the companies named above would have an idea that their products are being incorporated into the V2 & would be quick to distance themselves were this to be a scam??
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
How could they disclose such info for you?
[Saygus V²] saantiago:
By that standard the failure of the V1 should have been seen a mile away. The information about PSN doesn't exactly generate confidence for people on the fence about buying it, and it would provide 3rd party proof about the legitimacy of the phone. I'm not asking you to do it, take a chill pill.
[Saygus V²] BtotheT:
I really feel like a lot of you are born whiners, products of American Expedience, why don't you just wait 3-4 weeks?

If you have no constructive information and just wanna parade your capitalist doubts be sure to stfu in advance. Plz n Thnx

What will happen will happen, all the conjecture and speculation won't change a thing. If you wanna let your doubts cloud your decision process, go ahead jump ship like the faithless/dreamless tool that you are, otherwise, welcome to the USS hopeful headed for an epic device.

You people resemble 2 party politicians bickering over nonsense and in my hunt to keep up on being informed I have to read a truckload of b*llsh*t, enough's enough. If you can find out/divulge information about the phone which is recent fire away, in any other case your insecurities and slander we can do without.

Do us all a favor and be silent unless you have something current and factual to contribute.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
Okay, how about this...

Opened two tickets and did a couple chats this week trying to reorder (i canceled 3 weeks ago) because the code didn't work for me on checkout. Submitted ticket 4/25 and got immediate reply saying they would get back to me. Next day reopened my cancel ticket and asked for help, no reply. Today 5/1 haven't heard a thing back yet. Why do i need to beg them to buy their damn phone? I think I'm moving on but hope for the best for the rest of you.
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Sounds like you're begging them to save 50 bucks after you got cold feet and backed out. You are not entitled to a discount because you forfeited your preorder.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
Well, my point was that the lack of communication has swayed me from jumping back in after i decided to reorder. Cold feet, yes, absolutely!

I've been extremely supportive of this phone and careful not to post anything negative, but damn, this continued lack of customer service has got me down and just lost them another order. That's bad business any way you slice it.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Yeah.... 22 days people. Hold on tight! We will get there. Just put your mind on something else for now. Play video games or something to pass the time.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
This forum seems to be filled with Saygus employees. I don't rule out that Chad Sayer, Tim , and Chris are spamming comments among us.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
So, who'd likely be a saygus employee here? Any assumptions?
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Honestly, I don't know. but it is really weird that some users here don't accept any criticism to Saygus or its CEO. Like if Saygus the holey God. Those people do really behave like Apple or Samsung fanboys when someone talk no-good about their legend company.

Saygus is a new company with a flimsy previous record. No one has tried the V2 yet. We all do love it before trying it, but we still have the right to discuss the unsound action of Saygus management.
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
If the cap fits...
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
?Alright, I'm done with this stupid crap. all this bickering and etc is way to tiring to read over and over and over again. It's what 10ish pages of this now? I'd rather actually discuss the phone. either way I shall not follow this mess anymore.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Yeah most of this thread is about peoples' anxieties.

Few Questions for everyone to take their minds off the bad stuff.

1: Whats the first thing you're going to do with the phone other than charge it?

2: Will you attempt to take a shower while using your v2 at the same time?

3: Will you take a selfie with the camera the first day you get it?

4: Will you annoy your friends on social network or work about how awesome your phone is compared to theirs?
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
1. See how well restoring my titanium backups will go.

2. Nope, I don't care how waterproof it is, It'll only accidentally get wet.

3. Nope but i will compare the front camera with my Nexus 5's rear camera.

4. I don't use social networking so..
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
YES! You rock, thanks for bringing some positivity to the thread!

1. Set it up? :) OK, but really, I think I'll try to install another OS on it. Or just play Star Wars KOTOR in my TV screen. :)

2. No. Ew? But I'll take it on kayaking trips without worrying about it. :)

3. Real men don't take selfies... But if I happen to take a picture of myself, and it ends up on Facebook, well...

4. How could mocking the iPhone annoy anyone? I prefer the term "enlighten". I will enlighten all my friends. And they will just have to learn to love it.

As a side note, does anyone have any good ideas aside from CM or Ubuntu for a secondary OS? Mozilla Phone, maybe? (I would assume they're open source.)
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Questions continued:

5: Will you ever play games via wihd with the v2?

6: What alternate operating systems and or roms would you want to dual boot with?

7: If windows 10 has an arm architecture version in near future will you dual boot with it?

8: If there was one positive thing to say to the saygus team, what would it be?

9: Will you buy a case for this phone even though it suppose to be super tough without it?

10: If there is an overnight shipping option, what would be the most you'd spend to have it overnight shipped?
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
5. I don't even having a n hdtv.

6. Cm12 not cm12.1 plx. I'd also likely to to play with Ubuntu.

7. Nah.

8. You've made the first phone spec wise that fits everything I want.

9. I'd love to see a belt holster for it. I'd love on for work.

10. I think about @ hundred bucks would be my limit.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Kali OS for penetration testing would rock on a phone like this. Windows 10 would be cool and i dont quite know why.

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Id definitely play with ubuntu. Pair a bluetooth mouse and keyboard to the phone and wihd it onto a big screen and test how far i can take the phone in comparison to my surface tablet.
[Saygus V²] minatour44:
windows 10

i believe already a technical preview already out for the pi 2 quad core :),
[Saygus V²] Purest:
Free overnight shipping to all the first preorderers would be nice.
[Saygus V²] minatour44:
update on twitter

cant wait:)

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i asked - quick question - does the dedicated camera button take a picture straight away, even when the camera app might be not running at the time there was mention in a founder video but no further information on your website and any forums, - 50 seconds into video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pziqKA6LZxM

reply (sic)

"That is a great question! With the V², the camera will open instantly then you have to click the same button again to take the picture. This will happen within a few seconds of each other, so most often you will still be able to capture the moment.

Sincerely,

Saygus Team"
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Interesting fact mentioned in video: V² stands for advanced video features. If I remember correctly they were boasting back in 2008. that V-phone is the first phone with double video protocol. This front camera is just a natural progress. I haven't seen this presentation yet, tx for the link.

Zack.TheDark, I am going to keep my eyes on you. It seems that we are going exactly the same way with this baby. I want it with Kali for experiments, and Windows 10 for computer compatibility. I also want to test Ubuntu because I'm curious, but main OS, the one that I will keep on internal memory will be CM (11 or 12) for stability and features.

Camera button is EXACTLY what needs to be done on each and every phone with the camera. I had this on my K750. One safety click to turn it on, and second one to snap the shot. I lost so many good photos because it takes forever to turn the bloody thing on. That includes all of my old androids and iPhones. If OS will be sleeping during that time- then it is like having 2 separate gadgets and great save for the battery. This is pure logic and I can't comprehend why would anyone make phones without such conveniences. Is it so complicated?
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
+1

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+1

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++1

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Dear Tony Stark,you will be labelled as a paid promoter of the company by some of our earnest friends here in this thread.Be cautious!

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Thank you for saying what should be said.But it is worthless here in this thread.Nagging will go on until the release

date!

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+1.Seems every one feels that they are entitled!

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I know you and understand.Feels sorry for their stand although you are an ardent supporter.Why don't you seek the help of our and their friend Andreas?

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6:An AOSP or CM12.1 based one.

7:Yes,ofcourse.

9:yes,a fully transparent and slim one.
[Saygus V²] leith51:
yes it would but cant see me getting on overnight shipping here in the uk lol
[Saygus V²] t3chfan:
Polite request, please can you concentrate on leaving comments with some substance or use to other forum members. These endless, long '+1' and smiley sessions are no more than spam, if you agree with what another contributor says, please simply thank them.

On another note, the recent improved comms and other details, along with the reintroduction of the pre-registration offer made me reconsider - especially as I now have a credit card which would protect my purchase in the event of a 'worst case scenario', however when I tried placing with the new discount code I got a message saying I could not use that code. Support ticket has been open for 3 days but no progress. Let's see how that pans out, but I'm also ambivalent.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I really hope that Microsoft will make Windows 10 ARM edition nearly identical in compatibility as the standard Windows 10. Problem with ARM though is that in order to get support for this phone either Microsoft will need the ARM version open sourced to the extent so that developers can make it compatible with the V2, or Microsoft would have to make it compatible. I know with the PI, I read an article some where that Windows 10 ARM would be free. Also Windows 10 be free for anyone with Windows 7 and up for a year.

And Kali OS would make this phone the ultimate hacker/network analysis tool. If only Tails OS would get on board with the ARM arch, that would make this the phone of the GODS. I was thinking that Orbot (tor connection) is available on android; perhaps have a separate CM rom with it installed and thus anything that is tethered would be torified. Maybe even make it as a virtual machine for Whonix.