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[Android General] cosimopepe:
I have the keyboard show on the second picture ( is the keyboard wit the false touchpad ) and this keyboard not working !

I have purchase included the tablet in the store QH-Brand Store on ALIEXPRESS.
[Android General] CrimsonKnight13:
I've noticed something that might be of interest...

The X10HD looks a lot like Sony's Xperia Z2 Tablet. It appears that non-keyboard cases might be used with the exception that the X10HD's speakers might be covered.

Edit: I'm going to keep doing research until I find another tablet that's like the X10HD. I need more options for cases than what Aliexpress & others are offering...

Edit 2: I decided that its not worth the headache, so I'm going to get a case that stands. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newe...pc-teclast-x10hd-cover-touch/32261816046.html

So far my issues w/ the X10HD are as follows:

OTG doesn't work - I really want this to work for external device hookup and maybe even for a custom install of Windows at some point

DnX mode "works" but this mode isn't recognized by Windows (via desktop & netbook on both USB 2.0 & 3.0) - this I definitely need if Android or Windows take a nosedive

Xposed Framework bootloops Android - would be nice to have working since Teclast's AOSP build doesn't give me enought power user options hidden or visible

CPU throttling is good on Windows but horrible on Android. Has plenty of thermal events that need not occur whatsoever - they need to fix something in the kernel I think to bring down the temperature & battery use

Battery reports 4,999mAh instead of 8,000mAh in Android. After a full charge & plenty of use it drops to 7% & stays there for a long while. - definitely needs fixing; fast drain probably due to CPU throttling issues

Creaking noise near speakers. I suspect the housing around them maybe causing the noise. - other than the noise, it feels like a fairly solid tablet

Screen shuts off completely in Android & Windows. Won't turn back on unless a forced shutdown occurs.

Charging flickers on & off while connected to a charger (doesn't matter what type). - I hope this will be fixed once I completely drain the battery.

Windows & Android reboot randomly when connected via USB - WTF is going on with my tablet?!
[Android General] Hendrickson:
Not working? Oh dear, this is the keyboard I'm waiting on. Damn, I will not get my hopes up. I've done reviewing this tablet - 7.0/10 http://techtablets.com/teclast-x10hd-3g/review/ I have knocked it down due to the creaks, battery meter issue, Play Store issues and battery life. I think it is an okay unit if you ignore Android as the rom runs like poop. Installing just Windows and a full cycle of the battery should fix the meter.
[Android General] Hendrickson:
I'm not experiencing the above issues, sounds like your usb port or some kind of hardware issue there?

But all the other issues yes. The PiPO W3F might be a good option too, it's 16:10 1920 x 1200 and has a keyboard dock. The best part it has a full sized USB 3.0 port :)
[Android General] dabotsonline:
Has anyone tried Android 4.2 DuOS ( http://www.amiduos.com / http://www.amiduos.com/nextsteps ) on one of the Teclast tablets, and compared its performance to that of the pre-installed Android 4.4 that [MENTION=1167021]Hendrickson[/MENTION] says runs poorly? [MENTION=2571521]CrimsonKnight13[/MENTION] , perhaps it might improve your throttling problem? My only Windows device at present is a Linx 8 tablet but it only features 1GB RAM whereas DuOS requires 2GB.
[Android General] CrimsonKnight13:
It works great when I need it to but I'm irked that some of the issues haven't been updated yet. Windows shows that there is USB 3.0 support built-in but Teclast skimped on that sadly.

I'm not sure if its possible to run DuOS on the X10HD. If there was... I'd jump right on it.
[Android General] _gl:
Interesting, anyone used one? What's the screen quality like? Any bad bugs?

That keyboard looks much better too (has the Fn PageUp/Down/Home/End on arrows layout that makes sense to me). It's even got a Break key (used in Visual Studio debugging) and a PrtScr :). And a Del.
[Android General] CrimsonKnight13:
After attempting to do a full discharge of the battery (pressing of the power button until it stops showing the battery with a red sliver of power), it got stuck on a screen with a fully charged battery... I have no idea why this is happening.

Edit: After it went away, it looks like the battery finally fully discharged. I'll post an update tomorrow if the device takes a turn for the better (or worse). I've contacted Teclast & OKQI to see if I can get a replacement (or refund if it comes down to it). I'm quite unhappy with my X10HD after week of frustration.
[Android General] cosimopepe:
I have contact the seller and i back tomorrow to she, and she send a new one ! Of course i hope the problem is the keyboard and not the tablet ? I have also the X98 3G wit only

windows and also is greatfull,but onest i have not preference, bat i have buy the X10 for have a keyboard fit similar at netbook.

When you received your keyboard pls give us a reply test.

Yesterday i try the connection with sim card Vodafone and working well.
[Android General] ar2rc:
whether anyone realizes it is working with the Polish Aero 2 3g network ( 900MHz ) ?
[Android General] digitalac:
Hi

I need help

My kid want from me to buy him one tablet (he has PC with Windows 7 but need to play game also outside of home...) to play Minecraft. I mean this game need Open Gl support to work and Java. We need only to work with Windows, rather to delete 8.1 and install Windows 7. Is this tablet capable for Minecraft game and is possible to change Windows 8 to 7 (I hate Windows 8 and Android...)? Thanks
[Android General] cosimopepe:
Also on my tablet the play market not working !Usb otg in windows working !
[Android General] digitalac:
Hi

i will quote this:

Connectivity & GPS:

Realtek Wireless 801.11n and Bluetooth combo card is onboard, with a maximum connection speed of 150mb/s I had no issues with the wireless speed and signal quality was good around the house. 3G however I found was slower than my X98 Air 3G, I could only get a maximum of 2mbps download speeds from my location. On the Air 3G with the same sim card I could manage 5-6mbps download speeds. Maybe it was the network at the time, but repeat testing showed it was slower. And 3G will only work on the 2100Mhz band, which maybe an issue for some users in the U.S. First GPS lock took about 45 seconds and once locked was fine. Both GPS and Glonass was working

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Is that fixed? And is it was on Android OS or Windows 8.1 OS?

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Which graphic card is integrated in this tablet, Intel HD Graphic 7? Support Open GL? And can I format disk and install Windows 7 Ultimate instead Windows 8.1?

Thanks for answers
[Android General] cosimopepe:
Good morning i have followed this video , but when on the file build.prop i save all changing it not permitt and " failed to save " !

Can explain how to save ?
[Android General] OMGitsShan:
Wow........ OKQI are no longer selling this tablet on Ali! Didn't even last a month! I hope its a supply problem and not a case that they are not happy with this device or its sales. Between the time of me placing my order with them and then getting my documents verified by Ali security who only got round to completing it, this tablet is no longer sold by OKQI! Just my luck as I was hoping to get the improved keyboard with OKQI and I can't be sure the other sellers are offering the old or new version of keyboard.
[Android General] Hendrickson:
That's odd, I hope it's not discontinued, I see other sellers are still selling it.

Sounds like you don't have root or it's not rooted correctly.

I tired again in Windows and got around 3mbps, still slower than what my Air 3G can do. Not sure what the issue is.

Yes, its a Intel HD 7 and I have run Open GL 3 tests on it with no problems. As for Windows 7, not sure, I haven't tried it.
[Android General] cochran_sg:
Anyone know how to resolve the battery issue regarding only detected one cell and not 2 cell?

The tablet battery reading is really out.

And anyone know where to get tempered glass screen protector for the tablet? Or is there any other tablet like sony or samsung etc that have the closest spec and available tempered glass protector?

Thank you.
[Android General] OMGitsShan:
I'm actually torn between the Teclast X10HD and the Pipo W3 (not the 3F)! I do love that the screen res is higher on the X10 and it has GPS but the whole uncertainty of the attached keyboard (which is a big draw for me) and the build quality are putting me off this device. Given that Chris wasn't blown away by it and still loving his X98, hmmm not really sure anymore. The Pipo W3 may not be dual boot (wasn't an issue) and may not have the higher res or GPS (probably the only thing I would miss) but it seems the keyboard for that is much better (for what we know about it) and also the tablet design seems more solid. I just realized that with the full size USB port, I no longer have to buy the OTG 4 USB port hub that I would have to get if I got the Teclast.
[Android General] BigBoppa:
OKQI tell me that X10HD is out of stock. Next month they have spring festival and OKQI will get new tablets in march...:rolleyes:
[Android General] CrimsonKnight13:
This will probably one of my very last posts in this thread since I'm sending my broken X10HD back to OKQI in exchange for a Xiaomi MiPad 64GB (if possible). I'm hoping they hold up their end of it since the shipping will be quite pricey.

Best of luck to all of you who have bought this tablet, since its not a shining paragon of stability.
[Android General] OMGitsShan:
Thanks! Yikes.. by March there will be a whole bunch of new tablets to choose from i'm sure. Shame the X10 is no longer a great tablet. Think i'll definitely go with the Pipo w3 64GB version now. That full size USB 3.0 port is looking pretty good. I hate that the Pipo is a little bit more expensive even though it lacks a bit more in features.

I wish there was ONE Chinese tablet manufacturer who would just offer all the best features in one tablet. You buy an Onda - No HDMI, you buy a Pipo - No GPS, etc etc!
[Android General] BigBoppa:
I think all issues with X10 can be fixed ota.

So in march the X10 could be fixed hopefully:

- bad battery drain in windows (faulty connected standby)

- bad battery drain in android (faulty kernel/governor)

- bad battery measurement in Windows

it should be no big deal for teclast to fix it,

much more easy than fixing the random 3D freezes of the X98...
[Android General] Hendrickson:
Yes its all fixable, and at least my X10HD has no freezing issues at all.
[Android General] _gl:
Yeah, once I get my X90HD refund I'll probably buy the W3 aswell. Not just for USB3.0 (could be essential for what I'm planning) but also has the slightly faster processor (Z3575D boost 2.41 GHz). It got a good review here and they liked the keyboard too.

Agreed, GPS doesn't matter that much to me, but USB 3.0 + Samsung's OLED AdobeRGB 2560 screen (OGS?), fast CPU and good-to-excellent battery life... :). And for that kind of workhorse tablet, 4GB would be nice.
[Android General] OMGitsShan:
I find it bizarre that the cheapest seller on AliExpress is offering the Pipo W3 for $368 which is the 3G version with the keyboard. Considering the W3 has been out a lot longer I was hoping to see more sellers offering it for cheaper, but there are none. Even the X10 with keyboard is a lot cheaper than that. Most are now stocking the newer 3F model which is $200, but who wants a 32GB and 4000mAh battery? Last night I was looking online and noticed that POMP Mall is offering the tablet with keyboard for $312 which is a lot cheaper. Even with the FedEx/DHL $30 fee added on you still save $30 over the cheapest AliExpress seller.
[Android General] BigBoppa:
I get my X10hd and keyboard today. It is the simple keyboard without mousetabs but working fine. i booted several times in windows and android, so far no battery issues, at both os it shows 97% battery, now waiting for 100%... :)
[Android General] mnitstanley:
Someone please share snapshot of the BIOS screen of X10HD 3G.
[Android General] BigBoppa:
I just recognized that there ARE mousetabs UNDER the touchpad surface. So for right klick just press the lower right corner... :D

(sorry, i´m new to this kind of touchpads :o)
[Android General] _gl:
Agreed, prices are v. strange. Apparently OEMs get the Windows license free for tablets up to 9" (MS wanting to break into the market) - they pay for larger, not sure how much.

And ~30% slower CPU, and 3G optional. (but according to their site it's 7800mAh).

Another Pipo advantage over Teclast is a separate DC in jack (not shared with micro-USB) - unfortunately 9V though.

:good:, keyboard seems to be included, shipping to UK is $28 ordinary airmail / $34 DHL. Are PompMall reliable / decent support? At least you have Paypal protection.
[Android General] OMGitsShan:
For tablets with 9 inch screens or less, they pay $0 - for tablets with 10.1 inch screens they pay $15 for a Windows 8.1 With Bing license. There is absolutely no difference between a Windows 8.1 image compared to a Windows 8.1 with Bing image. The only difference is that the search engine on the browser must be Bing by default which is set in the Bing image.

I would probably take that 7800mAh quote with a pinch of salt. All the W3F sellers on Ali have the battery at 3800/4000mAh and given the price cut, I would assume that makes sense to put a smaller battery. The other things you mentioned that were lacking would also account for the almost 55% price cut between the W3 ($369) and W3F ($200)

Yeah this was one benefit to me because I no longer have to get that OTG 4 port USB hub. The device can be powered and BOTH USB connections are still free to use.

I would suggest paying the extra for DHL as the registered airmail is quite high but takes a long time for delivery negating the point of paying so much. A few people have posted on some tablet Youtube videos that they have ordered from POMP Mall and had good service with them. Based on the product listing (text formatting/images), it is likely to be an AliExpress seller although I'm not sure who exactly.
[Android General] cosimopepe:
Good morning , i have back to the seller my keyboard becouse wit my X10HD 3G never working, ando also i have buyed another from another seller, this guys send also a link were to see the video the keyboard working !

Of course i hope the problems was the keybosrd received wit ny Teclsat x10.

Attached here a link

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODc0NTIxMDA4.html

pass : 123456
[Android General] Hendrickson:
Ouch 3800/4000mAH battery will last what about 3-4 hours, not good at all. Anyone finding the the touch screen where you touch is actually about 1-2mm higher? At least it is on my X10HD.
[Android General] _gl:
(on WIndows at least) you should be able to recalibrate it, try this (it's for a reset but options are there):

"Solution 3: Reset touchscreen calibration

The touchscreen shouldn’t need recalibration, but if you or another user has recalibrated it, it may affect the performance of the touchscreen. Here’s how to check or restore the factory default calibration using a keyboard or mouse:

Step 1:	Press the Windows logo key Windows logo key + S to open Search.

(If you're using a mouse, point to the upper-right corner of the screen, move the mouse pointer down, then click Search.)

Step 2:	Type Control Panel, then use the arrow keys to highlight Control Panel, and press Enter.

(Or, click Control Panel.)

Step 3:	In Control Panel, use the arrow keys to highlight Hardware and Sound and press Enter.

(Or, click Hardware and Sound.)

Step 4:	Under Tablet PC Settings, use the arrow keys to highlight Calibrate the screen for pen or touch input, and press Enter.

(Or, click Calibrate the screen for pen or touch input.)

Step 5:	Use the Tab key to select the Reset button, and press Enter.

(Or, click Reset.)

If the Reset button is greyed out, your Surface touch calibration is still at factory settings and you can move to Solution 3.

Step 6:	Use the Tab key to select Yes, press Enter, and then follow the instructions on the screen.

(Or, click Yes, and then follow the instructions on the screen.)

Step 7:	After Surface removes recalibration data, test touch input again. "

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This from Pipo's Facebook page (posted Dec 3) might explain the high W3 prices:

"W3 is in stock now.

Sorry keep you waiting so long

W3 is with highest specs with Z3775D , up to 2.4Ghz

stock quantity is limited. After finished these stock, we will only do lower version with 2.0Ghz (Z3745D)

If you like to buy 2.4Ghz version, please order ASAP"

So sounds like they stopped making the W3, concentrating on the (even more cut down) W3F instead. So might be a good time to buy unless something else with similar specs is on the horizon? Guess Core M will take a few more months?

BTW there's also a damning report there from someone who bought from Pipo's own retail outlet, had a fault, and then got given the run around for (it seems) a year, and he claims even Pipo themselves won't fix his tablet under warranty. No way to know if it's true, but personally I will buy from Ali or where I can use Paypal for protection.

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BTW for anything from Ali you can currently get 3% cashback from this site:

http://www.topcashback.com/aliexpress-by-alibaba/

Not a lot, but usually it's 1% :). I've gotten some from them so they do pay up.
[Android General] BigBoppa:
New (?) and old issues i experienced with my X10:

- Battery falls in 3 h from 100% to 7%, then sitting for the next 3h at 7% (permanent ON, Windows), then i restarted in android and battery also shows 7%

- If tablet is charging and completely shut down, i can´t turn it on, not by power Switch and not by power & volume+. It only displays for a few seconds a charging battery and then turns off again. Only solution is to unplug charger and then power on works as expected.
[Android General] _gl:
That usually happens if the battery is too far drained (ie. pretty much empty). If that happens, it's important for battery life to establish a safe minimum charge, before powering up the device. All my recent gadgets (including iPhones) do the same thing if the battery is dead, eg. if the iPhone drains all the way down, it will then charge for a few minutes first before it powers up.

Or are you seeing the same thing with a more charged battery?
[Android General] _gl:
Careful with Pompmall - seems that the W3 keyboard is now not included. Their most recent comment:

"PiPO W3 tablet is not equipped with keyboard, you need to be purchased separately"​

And they told me the same thing off-line. So looks like that Ali Seller is now the only cheap option? He refuses to ship with faster-than-airmail delivery methods, claiming none of them will accept devices with batteries:

"Hello my friend, the all Express don't allow with battery goods, so we have to use Holland Post Air Mail, or Singapore Post."​

Seems unlikely when everybody else is still using DHL etc. Never feels quite right, does it?

Anybody else taking the plunge? (don't forget the 3% Ali cashback)
[Android General] OMGitsShan:
So last night I decided to take the plunge and order my W3 tablet. Contrary to my earlier posting, I decided to not go with POMPmall due to the following reasons. Firstly as you pointed out, there seems to be some to and fro regarding the keyboard situation. Some comments say it is included and other comments say it is not. If it was included then the tablet is a real bargain but it's not, so by adding the cost of the keyboard the tablet is about the same if not more expensive as the offers on Ali. So in the end not worth the saving as the keyboard is a big draw.

Secondly, as I scoured the technical details and info, I noticed that there is no mention of the 3G aspect of the tablet. They mention "3G" in the title but nowhere in the technical info is there any mention of the 3G modem. So again looking into the comments, POMPmall stated to 2 people that it included the 3G modem but then when another commenter called it out by its specific name "Huawei Ultra Stick" - they got a resounding "no" - now given the fact that it isn't mentioned in the specs either, for me it was dicey to assume they would include it. Perhaps the "3G" in the title was purely to inform us that the tablet had the capability? I wasn't willing to take that risk! In all likelihood it probably is included but I don't want to wait for delivery for that gamble. So for those reasons I decided to avoid buying from POMPmall.

That's a load of bull and we both know it. If what he said is to be believed, then I guess Fedex and DHL never ship laptops anywhere in the world because they contain batteries, which is a load of crap. Every other Ali seller who offers this tablet also offers expedited delivery. In fact this seller you mentioned lost my business because they didn't offer expedited delivery. I feel his crappy excuses are probably based on the fact that by offering free shipping, his listing comes out better in the search results or perhaps he couldn't get a good price from DHL/FedEx - but even so that would be our choice to pay. So perhaps then he just doesn't want to bother? It's silly and kind of risky to be sending such an expensive device through regular mail though. For me of course the wait of 39 days was too long. I need the device in less than a month so I wouldn't want to take that risk. In the end I bought it from this seller who charge a little bit more but faster shipping is the plus and they also had good overall feedback.
[Android General] BigBoppa:
You are right, with full battery power button works with charger connected.

The only thing is you have to press it for a few seconds (~3s). If pressed a shorter time then big battery logo appears and tablet switches off again
[Android General] HusinSam:
Today I just got my X10HD, the problems is similar, batt issue, play store issue..

out of that, I think the unit is good enough,

coz i use windows for work thing, and android for fun :D

I bought it from http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6447807317.html?orderId=65446158010986

The seller Mark Jiang from MC Computer accessories Technology is very good service, @308.99 + keyboard + EMS +discount = USD. 335.11

then as EMS donot accept batt li-ion, seller swicth to DHL without extra charge.

I recommend this seller.

Order @9PM 14 Jan, and the package arrive 22 Jan, Morning [MENTION=1569894]jambi[/MENTION] City.

[MENTION=1167021]Hendrickson[/MENTION] , thanks for all your review, I decide to buy X10 as per your review :good:
[Android General] _gl:
I'm not sure about this. I looked at a few W3F Ali listings, and the main listings (usually made up of large images) show the official 7800mah figure. You're right that 3800mah is sometimes (not always) listed in the Item Specifics, but I found on many Ali listings that those are frequently wrong (for all kinds of gadgets), and sometimes even for completely different devices. I think many sellers are sloppy about updating those, just concentrating on the main listings.

I also can't see them cutting the battery by 50%, that's crazy as the tablet isn't spec'ed that different. A cut sure, but 50% seems unlikely.

... here's one where even the Item Specifics say 7800mah.