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[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
YES! Finally we will have a curved 3D screen in the V²!! :D

Wait, what?! :eek:

This mind-blowing 24/7 Live Chat drives me crazy. :(

See those unofficial tweets for more details: https://twitter.com/JabbaMac/status/599276677961633792 and https://twitter.com/professor__x/status/599091415897935873

Obviously this document is from early January (before CES) and has been created by their PR guy Tim Rush.

Author: Tim Rush

Application: Microsoft Office Word
Created: 03.01.2015 18:26:00
Last Saved: 03.01.2015 18:26:00
Last Edited By: Caterina M. Lui
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Character Count: 6051
Revision Count: 2

Recent Hyperlinks List:
Hyperlink #1: http://www.saygus.com/
Hyperlink #2: mailto:Info@Saygus.com
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Damn it! Newman! (fingersnap)
[Saygus V²] Courtoman:
...Meanwhile back at Saygus HQ

(Comedy...don't get offended)

Chad: I hope everyone had a good day off yesterday after the debacle the day before?

Samuel Rhodes (24/7 Live Chat): .....

VP for Technology: Great, thank you! I had time to think and I thought maybe we could put in another...

Chad: No no no! I'm gone to China for a week and look at whats happened! Not only has the V Squared been renamed to the V2 Plus One, it's now three times bigger than before, and whats this...? What the hell is this? Is this a portable life raft? Is it a tent?

VP for Marketing: That was my idea sir. I thought perhaps if while lost in the woods and the phone ran out of battery and there was no reception then you could possibly still survive...

Chad: Are you serious?!?

VP for Marketing: ...and then after spending a lovely night in the woods you can press this button here...and you have a handy signalling mirror!

Chad: It's a PHONE you moron!

VP for Marketing: Yes but after getting the feedback from our pre-order customers last week it was felt prudent that we broaden the scope of what it can do.

Chad: .....

VP for Marketing: See sir...we sort of let slip that there was this secret...

Chad: you WHAT?!?

VP for Marketing: ...well it wasn't me. Anyways, We decided to go into damage control by hinting that there might be some new features and potentially some giveaways.

(Chad puts his face in his hands)

Samuel Rhodes: I was wondering why I was getting so many questions about that. It didn't say anything about new features when you wrote out for me a list of potential questions from customers when I started last Friday, so I've been making stuff up. Remember? We flew to Paris and ate at that lovely restaurant and you had the company credit card and said don't say any...oh

Chad: And why is Twitter chatter up 500%? I mean we haven't even announced anything. Wheres the Twitter girl?

Samuel Rhodes: Well, see, I had the soup and she insisted on lobster, and I said the lobster doesn't look too good. But did she listen? Noooooooooooo...

Chad: So who is in charge of the Twitter account?

Jed: Me

Chad: Who in blue blazes are you?!?

Jed: I'm Jed

Chad: For Christs sake...ok...ok. Now I hope someone did their job right. We have a PR nightmare right now, the phone seems to be getting more stuff added to it that NO-ONE told me about. Tell me at least you settled the people out there on social media down and at least were respectful and non-condescending and maybe we can save this sh*t show

Jed: Nah...I told 'em to f*ck 'em 'selves
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
It was not ment to be a mention. It was ment to explain that his Twitter post was about lack of emails from Saygus and not Shipping information. ;)
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
OMG, courtOman! That was frickin' hysterical!
[Saygus V²] vertigo_2_20:
I have no expectation that they will, either, but only because they have so far shown a complete lack of competence. I would expect any company with decent management to ship the majority, if not all, of the pre-orders on the initial ship date, hence the entire reason for pre-orders (to let them know how many they need to make at first).

I will agree that oftentimes people could stand to be put in their place, and people can be overly demanding/ignorant/rude/etc, but as much as they deserve it, a business looking to gain customers and keep the ones it has needs to turn the other cheek, not lash out, especially not publicly. So far, everything I've seen from Saygus has ranged from incompetence to apathy toward their customers to unprofessionalism.

We need businesses like this one COULD be, but not like this one. The US and this world don't need more companies with crap CS that ignore their customers. CS is very important to me, and I'm very seriously considering canceling my order and buying from someone else, because even if they do end up following through on their promises, and the phone is everything they claim it to be (both very big ifs that I doubt will happen, though as with everyone else, I would love to be proved wrong), their near-total lack of communication throughout all of this has been inexcusable, and I question if I want to support such a company. Yes, I realize the big companies are like that, too, but a) at least they have a product I can get right now and know what I'm paying for, and b) small companies need to have better CS, that's one of their selling points. Then, ideally, they should keep that CS as they get bigger, but that rarely happens.

I agree with dkryder. You don't seem to understand how bankruptcy works. If they file, they can potentially wipe their slate clean and not owe us anything. Supposedly Chad is independently wealthy from his other business(es), so that seems unlikely, but who knows. Considering we're less than a week away from the supposed ship date and still completely in the dark, anything's possible (though certain scenarios seem more likely than others).
[Saygus V²] tightos:
I couldn't have said it better!
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Saygus is obviously not in the mindset of being the people to deal with CS. They probably need a company to do it for them, and thus why I think that it is one of their big secrets-- a contract with a big (hopefully US) company that can. They are really treating us 'pre-order' folk as a business and honestly, this is what it feels like when you're in a business to business relationship. It's more crude than a business to consumer relationship. But I believe that is their mindset.
[Saygus V²] BtotheT:
127 Hours

[IMG="http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/02/09/1226003/295997-127-hours.jpg"]http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/02/09/1226003/295997-127-hours.jpg[/IMG]

I'm feeling very much like Aron Ralston right now(man being portrayed in the movie '127 hours')

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aron_Ralston

Cause in 127hours It will be 6am May 22nd in Utah :)
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Are you going to chop your own arm off when the phone doesn't show up?
[Saygus V²] BtotheT:
Maybe

With the idea behind it being my right forearm(same as Arons right forearm) must obviously be unworthy to hold the V2, a job more fit for my next ROBOARM!

But really, I just hope for a shipping and carrier announcement.
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
Anyone here who can offer some advice on applying tempered glass as a screen cover? I've never used them in my past phones since I've always seen that regular PET film serving my needs just fine. The reason for asking is the issue that comes up with trapped lint as such where I would hate to ruin my one-try with the tempered glass us early-birds are receiving.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
Guys shipping info email.. Well says it'll be Monday that we get the shipping info!

Dear V² Customer,

We hope you are excited to get your new V². We are excited to begin shipping!

We had planned on having the shipping information to you today but complete details won't be available until Monday afternoon (Mountain Daylight Time). Along with the shipping details, we will be emailing you some additional information on Monday.

Get ready! We're almost there!

Thanks,

The Saygus Team

Nearly died from excitement.
[Saygus V²] bag123boy:
I don't see the email
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
Now this is awkward.
[Saygus V²] Ahg3r1:
I also got the email.
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
:confused:ME TOO :)

---------- Post added at 10:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:56 AM ----------

Whats ur order number # approx ?

I dont think that saygus will ship all #10000 order in one day for that they are going by # order number :good:
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Crap! I wanted my shipping details now! Sending details on Monday just shows how irresponsible they are. Now I think I'll have to turn to a decent company and buy me a nice LG. :P
[Saygus V²] andriman:
Simply follow the tutorial in the package you'll receive. It's all described there, if you follow the steps, there is no way you could do it wrongly.

---------- Post added at 09:13 ---------- Previous post was at 09:10 ----------

Sarcasm?

No matter when you get the shipping info, it won't get shipped sooner than May 22.

They have tutu collect the package to be able to ship it. The shipping info will just let you know that the courier is on the way to take the package from the customer (Saygus). That can take days.
[Saygus V²] BtotheT:
Trolling?

I'm semi-contently awaiting.
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
[IMG="Happy Dance!"]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f7/0d/ae/f70dae662630616f7693b20bb61eb561.jpg[/IMG]
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
The Saygus Team no-reply@saygus.com via mail28.atl71.mcdlv.net

11:47 (1 hour ago)

Reply

to me

Twitter

Instagram

Website

Dear V² Customer,

We hope you are excited to get your new V². We are excited to begin shipping!

We had planned on having the shipping information to you today but complete details won't be available until Monday afternoon (Mountain Daylight Time). Along with the shipping details, we will be emailing you some additional information on Monday.

Get ready! We're almost there!

Thanks,

The Saygus Team
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
I just wander whats the size of the first batch.

Actually Andreas fired that question first.

Anyone with 5000+ order number? To tell us if the confirmation came? 10000+?

Facebook guy 11000+ didn't get the e-mail.

Well, poor guy can be sure that he will get new "branding".
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
also got the email ;)
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Same. I also received.

Dear*V² Customer,**

We hope you are excited to get your new V². We are excited to begin shipping!

We had planned on having the shipping information to you today but complete details won't be available until Monday afternoon (Mountain Daylight Time). Along with the shipping details, we will be emailing you some additional information on Monday.

Get ready! We're almost there!

Thanks,

The Saygus Team
[Saygus V²] Soltkemecsei:
I'm #18xx, but have not received the email. (Actually none of their shipping info updates.)

It is not about the order number, they must have some issues with their email system.
[Saygus V²] Jan de Mor:
I was the order #17** but asked for refund a two months ago, but anyway I've received the mail. :what:
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
I got the mail and refunDed a month or two a go too
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
I think their website will be updated on Monday
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
I was #1774 and got the shipping email. Refunded six weeks ago fyi.
[Saygus V²] okankaldi055:
How can ı pre ordered now?
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
pre-orders are over.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
New logo

In the infinite wisdom of Samuel Rhodes
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Well this is a bit stupid situation for someone who is into looks: getting your device and not knowing how it looks exactly.

Luckily I am not one of those. :D
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Did you cancel?
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
As I've stated before (at least in the US) your credit has buyer protection.
[Saygus V²] enzo ferraro:
No. 1132 Speaks Up (Again, At Last)

Not only days, but also more daze from Saygus.
[Saygus V²] okankaldi055:
How can ı buy this phone before 22th may? I dont wait 22th may
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Troll along sir.

You need to read. Do some research, before you post.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
I was on the verge. But I'm no quitter!

:p
[Saygus V²] nonlose:
I have a 4000 something order number and got the email.
[Saygus V²] MadBob:
Order #5***+ got the email

But I expect they will take shipping cost/detail confirmation from everyone and send when they are ready.
[Saygus V²] vertigo_2_20:
I know that, which is one reason I buy almost everything with credit cards (especially stuff like this), but the way that works is the credit company does a charge back and takes the money back from the company, which typically they can do within 3 months of the charge. However, once the company files bankruptcy, they might not have the money to give back anymore, at which point it's up to the bank to fork it over to you, which can get hairy. So it's not a guarantee.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
maybe. the best bet is if the card was issued by a credit union. they generally are easier to work with. the process is not as cut and dried as you seem to think. i'd bet you could count yourself as one of the lucky ones if you are not left to file a claim with the bk court, which would be sort worthless. but even with 10,000 units @ $500ea visa is gonna less than jumping to eat that. so they are gonna do most everything they can to avoid it. and there is much they can do.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Does the order number reflects the number of sold phones or it is just an unrelated number?
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I'm fairly sure it reflects the order number but I've read the numbers started in the 600 area instead of 1. Also consider that many people in front of you have cancelled.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
This^^

However many have canceled, so the # system can be somewhat askew
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Also some may have ordered multiple phones
[Saygus V²] enzo ferraro:
You Could Have Gotten Insurance On Your Buy

I gave this considerable thought before I placed my order on Feb 3. I'm #1132, and hanging in for 5-22.

However, I considered buying cheap insurance against the purchase of the phone by NOT buying on Feb 3, and waiting to see if this outfit could really produce or not.

The insurance would have cost me only $50 (approximately) against the $550 pre-order or the subsequent post delivery purchase price. I opted to take the dive in February, recognizing that the entire amount might get swallowed up if Saygus folds, but it seemed like a reasonable risk worth taking.

I used a credit card, and I spoke to my card company (USAA) and they will try to recover my $$ if Saygus doesn't come through, but recognize that if Saygus has burned through all the cash, and there's nothing left to get one's hands on, then there's not much of a recovery, bankruptcy or otherwise.
[Saygus V²] porkandbeans:
I sure hope we can exchange our headphones for the WiHD adapter! If so, I think I'll still purchase an extra one so that I can have one on both flat screens!
[Saygus V²] Purest:
Well they did say their headphones are retailed at $229 so I'm sure you could return them for at least 2 adapters! :highfive:
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
FYI, there is now an accessories thread started here :good:
[Saygus V²] mokumdrie:
Now we wait. Thx for the 2588 posts of info and Speculations. Lovet it.
[Saygus V²] bag123boy:
i think u meant the DRAMA! XD
[Saygus V²] mokumdrie:
i think u meant the DRAMA! XD

To get the phone absolutely, ;)
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
It's been interesting to say the least. I'm very curious to see the price of the back covers, anyone care to speculate? I REALLY liked the idea of switchable back plates on my one plus one, sadly the idea fell through and due to quality issues only limited quantities of one back cover (bamboo) ever got released. That was a bummer but after seeing the price at $50 US I figured I wouldn't have been a buyer on those anyway. I am eager to get the phone and see others reviews. I'm tempted to not read any reviews as I can see many bad reviews based on unrealistic expectations that the build up may have caused, much like my oneplus one.
[Saygus V²] Jkteam:
I asked them about 2 weeks ago since i already have good headphones and they said they will stick to their earphones as a gift

that said, that was when the adapter wasn't ready yet so maybe it will change.

but as Purest said, i am pretty sure there will be a way.

will shall see monday
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
The new Saygus ??

A rumor stated that Nokia acquired Saygus. I asked the chat man. He neither confirmed nor denied this rumor. But he confirmed that the phone will be shipped with the new logo. I insisted to know which logo, but he said "'I'm sorry I'm not authorized to mention more details. There is something big will be announced and the company will demonstrate a major leap soon''
[Saygus V²] scomat:
Read bottom of the first paragraph. It seems to confirm about Nokia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saygus (Please ignore)
[Saygus V²] bag123boy:
wiki can be edited by anyone...until there isnt any news about we cant be certain!!
[Saygus V²] scomat:
Yeah I suppose your right mate. Never thought about that. Oh well. ..Just ignore
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Nonsense, we need all the whiners we can get lol.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
Yes join us in speculation and whining, it helps pass the time while we wait for what we hope is going to be the most complete and awesome phone on the face of the earth!

Also, contribute any new info that you may run across please.[emoji12]
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
One more whiner right here. Interested in Kali on one of SD cards and CM. How long will it take, what do you think?

---------- Post added at 10:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:14 PM ----------

2 interesting facts: 1. I was charged for this phone INSTANTLY. Less than 24 hours after my pre order I believe. 2. AFTER I pre ordered it I found out about some "new" important specs Like 60 GHz wifi, and wireless charging. So I think these guys mean business- if they were just about the money they would simply publish all the features a lot sooner in order to take money. So I'm going to take it easy on them- it is not easy to start all that.
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
Wireless charging was there before and if your referring to the beaming that was also already there lol
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Possible. I might not have been paying enough attention. I am after it for 3gb of ram and 2 sd cards mostly.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Me? I cant say one particular feature is more lusted after than the other. The collection of these great features is what i lust after. If saygus makes me happy, they might just have a superfan. Thats what i want to be. A superfan for Saygus. The ball is in their court to make that happen.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I agree with that. Any new info anyone finds I'd encourage you to post it, even at the risk of it being a repeat. Some thoughts on the back covers... I wonder how much they will be should saygus choose to sell them. Do you think the fractal antenna will affect pricing dramatically? Same with a case, I wonder how badly it affect the antenna.
[Saygus V²] BiffTirkle:
I don't think it would affect pricing much. Seems pretty simple a thin ribbon looped in the back with terminal contacts on the inside.

The question is "does it work as advertised"

I honestly don't care. It kind of looks cool.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I'm curious to see if it works. But it really won't affect my usage as I only get bad reception in one particular warehouse and I only spend an hour there every other week or so.
[Saygus V²] sonhy:
It was mainly a joke... :) I've paid and willing to wait. But i would be shocked if a real business would include the interest earnings from pre-orders into their production investment funding or any part of the business - it would surely help their petty cash tin though.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
I believe they received quite alot of pre-orders but then its our choice if we want to continue with the orders after the delivery charges are imposed. We can still cancel order before delivery. Correct me if I am wrong...
[Saygus V²] jesamyn:
Yeppers, that's in the FAQ.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Yes I agreed with you. Its a collection of rich features which makes this phone really awesome..

In all honestly, I read about this phone on phonearena.com.. Afterwhich it immediately aroused my interest and I pre-order it on the same day. I have a dream phone which I am looking around for and finally I found one.

I realized some of you mentioned screen tech and processor should be improved.. But personally I feel that this are less crucial than things like being a world phone, their upgraded wireless tech such as wifi, nfc, wireless charging, lte and many more..

Let's all create more hype on this superphone...
[Saygus V²] xxDimxx:
Hello,

I have just opened this ticket at Saygus in case it could interest one of you :
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Saygus is alive! :D

Yeaaaaaaaah!

They posted a new picture on their Facebook account: https://www.facebook.com/1529108940....1073741828.1529108940649066/1698844860342139
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
I am checking now
[Saygus V²] adamo86:
We want to see some videos with the features in action so far we have only seen the beam in action
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
Is it actually their account though or a fan made account. One of the posts (O don't remember which) seemed like it was posted by a fan and not directly by them.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
I suspect its not official Saygus V2 facebook page. If it is official, they should have mentioned it on their official website. Apparently they only have an official Twitter account.... Which is mentioned on their website...
[Saygus V²] nvitone23:
So now we continue to wait...
[Saygus V²] NexVision:
Sounds interesting however it would completely contradict.

http://company.nokia.com/en/news/statements
[Saygus V²] Omegaclawe:
Y'know... Wikipeds shouldn't be taken at face value... for this reason, they require sources for all claims in an article.

The edit is gone, but if you had followed the source link provided for that "information" you would find no mention of this acquisition.

This claim is almost certainly bunk and, even were it to happen at some point, it would likely be entirely coincidental. No one uses the Wikis for press releases.
[Saygus V²] scomat:
Did I not already say that in my previous post. Move on
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
While correct, Nokia has made it clear that they are changing direction and moving more of their handheld device efforts back to Android.

Nokia wiki

Excerpt from wiki;

It's also very interesting that Alcatel is releasing the Idol 3 on May 22 Forum for Alcatel Idol 3 is http://xdaforums.com/idol-3
[Saygus V²] NexVision:
Intwesting....
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
I preordered idol 3 for $199 after canceling the V2. Third of the price and we'll see how they compare in real world day to day use. Do I need fingerprint scanner, two SD slots, waterproofing, wiHD, nice ffc, shutter button? Probably not but those things are nice.

Sent from my M8.
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
No contradict with that if Nokia acquired a phone manufacturer. Still Nokia a very giant company and has lots of new strategies
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Accessories

Samuel rhodes tells me that the accessories "most probably" will need to be ordered and shipped after the phone launch and will not be ready with the phone.
[Saygus V²] TheYoungLord:
I really hope that's not the case. I'm already struggling to not cancel and get a zenfone 2 sent out!
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Grrr I was totally ready to order a zenfone 2, I really like the circle case. Then I read reviews where the battery wasn't so good and the camera got panned. I was interested in checking into the zenfone zoom but I haven't heard a word about it since it was announced.
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Well.....few more days. I didn't pre-order (didn't want to risk any aggravation) but I'm excited for all of you! I really hope all goes well and Saygus kicks butt! Then I shall join the crowd and enjoy what seems to be the one true hobbyist device.

Hey if they didn't announce another delay yet, then things are looking good.
[Saygus V²] MikeyMike01:
Agreed on both points. If there were to be a delay, they'd know it by now. I'm also sitting on the sidelines hoping the device is every bit as wonderful as I believe it will be. :good: