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[Xperia Z2 General] gamer649:
Why are people complaining that the February window is going to be missed? They said starting from February, yeah. But obviously they have run into problems with the software; i.e. major bugs what affect the performance.

Think of it this way. You go to a restaurant and place your order, they tell you that there is going to be a 30 minute wait on the food, you agree to still wait about. 30 minutes passes, you complain they have failed on the 30 minutes and you want your food now. They tell you that the food is only half cooked and having it now would cause food poisoning. Would you still demand the food? No, because it is unsafe for consumption. So why are you all complaining/demanding Sony release it soon? The software isn't finished and that's all there is to it. If they released a half finished ROM you'd all be complaining it was full of bugs.

Rant over.
[Xperia Z2 General] bdithug:
What I don't understand is the very people who preach "wait patiently" are the ones who sh!t on other manufacturers for any hiccups. Then when Sony has one, all they can say is wait patiently, Sony does a good job, yada yada..

You have to have a balanced view of things. Other manufacturers are quicker with their releases. Hands down. Proof is in the pudding. It was like this with 4.4.4 and now 5.0.2. Sony is always last to the party. Call a spade a spade. Sony is slow, no excuses.

For a 2014 flagship to still not have lollipop in February 2015, it's a joke. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure EVERY other 2014 flagship has lollipop released now (htc m8, Galaxy s5, LG g3, moto x 2014). Hell even some 2013 phones have it as well. This is unacceptable. An $800 2014 flagship device and I'm running 4.4.4 which google released about a year ago. Something is seriously wrong there. Why can other manufacturers do it but Sony can't?
[Xperia Z2 General] chesterr:
Well it's 50-50 when it comes to updates, specially major ones. and I just saw that PC Companion was getting an update as well. But when you say February, it gotta be February.

Well Sony is a huge company and to keep their happy customers more happy they should NOT go back to the Deja vu moments. While other main OEMs updated their flagships Sony is still struggling to release a proper build.

Sometimes I feel like that they're only having few Engineers working at software department. And with updates they just simply made stupid decision by making two exact the same phones and releasing them in different time, and they do NOT have proper ads to market the damn phones and complain that oh hey no body buys our product.

Breaking Bad was Sony pics but Samsung managed to get Saul Goodman in their ads just because He was so famous among the people in US and other countries as well. So everything they fail and I mean they never try to learn.

P.S: My sister is using her phone (M7) with LP and she has no issues or whatsoever.
[Xperia Z2 General] _delice_doluca_:
Of course I would not want a food that would poison me.. But I wouldn't blame (or talk behind) people who are going to the other restaurants which can cook the food in damn 30 mins...

Everybody is saying they prefer a fully problem free and ready ROM and I agree with them. But everybody fails to admit we are talking about actually a great company and this behavior does not suit Sony well in nobody's eyes, I am not even mentioning they "promised" (I have never witnessed a Japanese not honoring a promise, so that's heart braking, they are NOT Samsung right?) to deliver the update and when the KitKat was here they published their "new team and works for faster updates and lighter softwares" articles all over the net.

If nobody said February then probably this many people would not be that sad about the current situation I believe.
[Xperia Z2 General] zohaib0001:
When Sony is near to release his higher end device, then he never release the latest software

I saw this in start of 2014 and 2013 also....

We will get lollipop update but after the WMC 2015 when sony release his new Z4 Ultra with Lollipop

And its only 4 days left :p

And because of Delay they will give us 5.0.2 or 5.1 which is good
[Xperia Z2 General] bdithug:
Wishful thinking, but unfortunately we haven't even seen a new firmware on ptcrb's website. My guess is we'll be lucky to receive anything in March even.
[Xperia Z2 General] Kondzioz:
Actually I wanted to share the same observations, but I was too lazy ;) yeah, same situation happened before and I have the same feelings its gonna drop down to us until Z4 launch with 5.xx onboard.

And as someone also said, it might be that as a reward of delay we may get not 5.0 but the latest.
[Xperia Z2 General] dakunclear:
Sony has already leaked the fact that there will be no phone this year but the z3 tablet which will be there for the people that want a 10 inch screen and the fact that their ps4 remote play just got updated to support jellybean.....or at least I just got that update
[Xperia Z2 General] pec0ra:
For all the people who think Sony is doing a bad job, take a look at these stats. They are the reason why ETA is forbidden on xda and why we shouldn't be so hard with Sony if they are a month late.
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
+1 to the post above

I dont see much when devs are late but ive never seem so much when sony is late :/
[Xperia Z2 General] Vuja1:
Sony show me that lollipop :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wlzLyDNlI
[Xperia Z2 General] bdithug:
Fair enough. But keep in mind that means people need to take that into consideration when other manufacturers are late with updates, or have bugs as well. Sony fanboys always seem to bash other manufacturers, while letting Sony off the hook. My point is that all android software will have bugs, Samsung, htc, Sony, LG, Motorola, etc. There is no way to make a software update 100% bug free for 100% of the consumers. The difference is Sony is ALWAYS last to update their devices, regardless of their announcement earlier that they were going to be focusing on prompt software updates moving forward. We have not seen this yet. That is why people are upset. Before Sony made that announcement, Sony was last to update their devices. Even after that announcement, they are still last to update. So what's the point of making an announcement about focusing on prompt updates, if it doesn't change anything? And what's the point of being last to "iron out all these so called bugs" when the release will still have bugs? All it does it tell the consumer that Sony is slow, and prioritizes releasing new phones (see Xperia z4, z4 tablet, e4, c3 software update which isn't even 4.4.4, m4 aqua, etc).

Sony continues to do the same crap over and over. They continue to release a bunch of low to mid range phones. Because of this, their resources are tied up and cannot deliver software updates in a timely fashion to existing customers. They prioritized the z3 when z2 customers were waiting for 4.4.4. Now they're prioritizing these other devices (mainly z4 and z4 tablet) when z3 and z2 customers are still waiting for lollipop.

Sony has shown they've bitten off more than they can chew. They need to simplify things. Fewer phones, closer to stock, faster updates, more frequent updates. In fact that is what their announcement was last year but we still don't see any evidence of this happening.

I can't speak for others, but that's why I'm getting pissed with Sony.
[Xperia Z2 General] MelihCaliskan:
Sony Mobile Turkey. I can send you SS but i think you can't understand it
[Xperia Z2 General] noshatake:
What!? End of MARCH?! That is totally out of the window they initially gave! Come on, Sony is being totally un-professional all this time!

At least they should inform their customers of the delay, state an official apology and tell us WHEN we should expect the Lollipop Update!
[Xperia Z2 General] migueldbr:
lol technically its not, since i remember reading something along the lines of Q1 2015 (if im not mistaken). But its a **** move xD
[Xperia Z2 General] gamer649:
If you're getting so angry with Sony jump ship to another manufacturer. Personally I won't go with any lines apart from Xperia or Nexus because 1) I don't like the UI on other phones, 2) I don't like the designs of other phones, and 3) I've had experience with other manufacturers in the past.

Yeah, it is bad that Sony hasn't provided a 'fast' update but at the end of the day I'd prefer it to be properly done than a half finished thing where I'm having more bugs than I did on an earlier firmware.

You're moaning about how long it took to get 4.4.4? We got Z3 features in that software update. Do you really think people would have been happy needing 2 updates for 4.4.4 (an initial one and then one to get extra features) or just one update (an initial one without extra features)? No they wouldn't, it is pointless.

People (Z3 users) will probably start receiving OTA updates for 5.0.x on or shortly after March 5th, we won't be long behind. But if you are truly unhappy with Sony, don't sit and complain, do something about it.
[Xperia Z2 General] bdithug:
To start, it's not so easy to jump ship after spending $800 on this device less than a year ago. Sell it and buy a new device with the proceeds? I'll have to buy used mid range phone, and it won't carry a warranty either.

Second, giving the z2 the same features as the z3 is no gift from Sony. In all honesty there shouldn't have even been a z3. The z3 could have very well been provided to z2 users through a software update as the phone is 99% identical. And considering the price of the z2 when it was released, Sony pretty much owed it to z2 users.

I've dug my hole by buying Sony. Like I've said a million times, Sony makes great hardware. That is what sold me on this phone. Hardware aside though, this company is a joke. From their customer service, after sales support, marketing, software updates, you name it, it's bad. Hardware is the only thing Sony does right IMO. And unless Sony makes some drastic changes, this will be my last Sony device moving forward as other manufacturers are catching up hardware wise.
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
Let's go point by point.

After sales support/Software updates - if you're referring to software updates, yeah, they're slow, but the current 4.4.4 firmware works perfectly. If you're referring to warranty support, they're equally great- my old Xperia Z got basically every component replaced (from the screen to speaker), even though I only sent it in because of the loose flaps.

Marketing - You live in North America where Sony Mobile have basically given up. Here in the far East, you see Xperia advertisements everywhere, on trains to billboards

You shouldn't put your grievances on the delayed lollipop update, so much so that it overwhelm you to put everything in the bad light. And that's no wonder Sony Mobile sold a record number of phones the previous quarter. But of course, sales do not equate to profits.
[Xperia Z2 General] Pandemic:
Wow who said you must spend $800 to buy a Sony device ?? No one !!

I see you hate Sony and act like a Samsung/Apple fanboy, if you hate Sony so much because they are slow or it is a worse company then let you dont force and buy another device and start complaining over there what is wrong or good and if the updates are better or not, but you care about Sony because you have a lot to say about and yes mostly bad things, nothing is good in your eyes about Sony, i use it for years and like the company alot, they are slow with updates and i agree about that but not full of bugs or useless features what nobody use almost and they have a better design then any other plastic device or copycat... Sony making more then only mobile phones, it is a big company also,

Dont blaim Sony if it is little delayed of the release of LP and 4.4.4 is just great for me either ^^' !!

# LP will come and it will take some time, we know but dont give up with waiting, dont let you head hang or give up the hope people, patients is the keyword to wait on something what you will love ^^

Peace
[Xperia Z2 General] bdithug:
Here in Canada, to purchase the z2 outright (off contract) it costed $800 after taxes. Nobody said I had to buy it outright, but the only other option was to sign a contract with Bell (which I would never do) and that would give me a locked bootloader z2 (bootloader unlock = no). Bell had exclusive rights to the z2 in Canada.

So my only other option was to buy it out right from the Sony store ($800 after taxes) .

Second, I'm not a fan boy of any manufacturer. I've tried many different manufacturers as I previously said. Sony has the worst customer service by far. Just look at their own support forums and the horror stories on there, not to mention the garbage they put me through when I was trying to get my dad's z2 fixed. It took weeks, and numerous phone calls to at least 10 different Sony departments (every department would transfer me to a different department because nobody wanted to deal with the issue) before I got a clear answer on how Sony would rectify the issue.

I'm not saying I hate Sony. And I agree that other manufacturers make cheap quality phones. Plastic, flimsy garbage. Sony has great hardware, but that's about where it ends. I'm just getting fed up because I'm still dealing with the same bugs that existed back in July when I bought the phone. Sony support isn't any help other than saying "send it in for repairs" which it clearly doesn't need.

Not trying to turn this into a hate Sony thread. Just giving my opinion on my experience and what I've noticed. And I notice a lot of people here crap on other manufacturers for the very things that they're patient for with Sony. They're extremely bias. Just trying to point out that Sony isn't God's gift to the phone industry, and they have a lot of work to do if they ever want to compete in the cell phone industry, hence the rumours of selling this division off. I also know that if your phone division is struggling, the worst thing to do is lie to your customers about prompt updates when you can't deliver. It doesn't give much hope to customers (existing or future ones)
[Xperia Z2 General] reptile64:
I don't get this service related bad experience from lots of people around the globe. Here in Greece the service was always awesome, I've never had problem or needed to contact them more than once and they always solve my problems. All my electronics were and will be Sony because I'm satisfied from all aspects, as for the updates.. Well that's their weak point but I'm sure that we will get a bug free software with good performance. Patience friends.
[Xperia Z2 General] Korke86:
hahahahaha :D :D
[Xperia Z2 General] benjmiester:
I figured I should share this in here too, shared it in another thread. I found this link just now:

http://best-tech-reviews.com/sony-xperia-z2-android-5-0-lollipop-release-on-15-march-3411/

Not sure how credible it is. But it seems to indicate we're getting it this week starting in Australia on Vodafone (who they credit with spilling the beans) and then rolling out globally from there on. It also seems to indicate that the Z3 might actually be next week. That part seems a little weird. Maybe just bad wording, or I'm reading that wrong.

But to everyone who's upset about the february date I only remember Sony officially saying it would be Q1 which means first 90 days of the year or till the end of March. February was speculated as the date since a few other makers got in in Feb and I think we all just kind of latched on to that, myself included.
[Xperia Z2 General] gamer649:
I wouldn't trust it, the official Xperia twitter (@sonyxperia) says that there is no official confirmation for either the Z3 or Z2. Until Sony confirm it I won't believe any other source giving a release date. I can't see anything on the Vodafone Australia site about getting the 5.0 update and nothing is said on their twitter either.
[Xperia Z2 General] catalin.v:
Here's a sneak peek of Sony's Lollipop running on Sony M4 Aqua

The status bar looks a lot like Vanilla, I believe we're almost there, probably a matter of days.
[Xperia Z2 General] alb3rtt:
The ui looks really good imo.

I can't wait...
[Xperia Z2 General] xarfrost:
They could have made their own original Xperia style lollipop status bar like we currently have with Z2. Don't get me wrong, i like the Vanilla stock look. Also those UI leaks from Xperiablog was kinda true, white settings with blue top banner. Im waiting for their bets for calendar/camera/album/messaging app.
[Xperia Z2 General] chesterr:
So tell me that we'll get the update after they release these products to the market. LOL
[Xperia Z2 General] jamesbdx:
According to french site frandroid, lollipop should start rolling out this week in Europe and next week in France. They don't mention which devices will be served first though....
[Xperia Z2 General] IreshS:
But it still retains that recent apps page with the UGLY (IMO) white bar at the bottom.
[Xperia Z2 General] effective:
Sony needs to update the Album app before the update i think.Its the only one left.
[Xperia Z2 General] PRO>KOMP.<:
Maybe new Album app is in LP Update :D
[Xperia Z2 General] danmak89:
Just coming from the Z3 forum. Someone posted this earlier. Build number matches that of one that was posted here a few pages back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Nfi4nqnd0
[Xperia Z2 General] dkionline:
Thats the latest build we saw on handsetdetection. Maybe it shoud be stable for release. No one get a dump ^^ thats bad.
[Xperia Z2 General] danmak89:
Now I wish I was there. I'm always happy to serve the community ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] dkionline:
I think they finished it and will release after MWC -.-
[Xperia Z2 General] gamer649:
They've got a Q&A at 5:30-6:30 CET (4:30-5:30 GMT) so maybe we will get some information on it then.
[Xperia Z2 General] Haldi4803:
Well, if I wouldnt have bought a 700.- food coupon from this restaurant I would simply go to another restaurant which has the same quality and delivers food in 20 minutes!

But at least this restaurant is as friendly as giving out food groceries for free so some chefs on the street can cook the food and fill my stomach!

Thx to all the people on the street who cook with Love :)

Keep on dreaming!

Anyone wanna take bets if we get 5.0.2 or 5.0? XD

I'd place my money on 5.0!
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
Didn't read the analogy because it's foc but please lower down your ego but a notch.
[Xperia Z2 General] reptile64:
3.4 kernel??? SRSLY?
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
Is that an issue? G3, S5 uses it in the lollipop update?
[Xperia Z2 General] jonathangrag:
It seems very fast. Now it's a matter of time...
[Xperia Z2 General] dkionline:
They work on 3.10, maybe they release it also with 3.10, but 3.4 for mwc only.
[Xperia Z2 General] reptile64:
I don't know but I guess that it affects performance..

hopefully Z4 tablet is using 3.10
[Xperia Z2 General] gamer649:
https://twitter.com/SonyMobileNews/status/572442677205192705

We’re finalising testing, still focused on rolling out soon. We’re optimising Lollipop for *entire* Xperia Z Series - more news soon ^JM

I suppose that is the closest we are getting to a release date... Maybe we will get a system dump soon?

EDIT:

Note, this is all guesswork so please don't take ANY of this as fact.

If they are finalising the testing that should mean that the software is near enough fully tested. In the next week or 2 weeks we should hopefully start seeing certifications/builds popping up. If they are adding in extra optimisations (and possibly features) for the Z series over the M4A then that will take a little bit more testing. All I can say is keep checking their twitters, the Sony mobile blog and the Vodafone Australia software update blog for a change on the status.
[Xperia Z2 General] statickiwi:
That looks very snappy on the Z3! Looking forward to seeing this on the Z2.
[Xperia Z2 General] effective:
They've added the Z on the first release also,so maybe this is the thing that delayed the firmware.Hard testing on an older hardware is a b..ch.It take some time tho.But yep,its commin sooon ^^
[Xperia Z2 General] romdroid.:
I think it's really nice
[Xperia Z2 General] Abdl:
Is it just me or That lollipop design looks waaay much like the stock android,and kinda ugly over the xperia UI IMO,might as well stick to 4.4.4
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
Seems like it's only you and the same few people, fortunately.
[Xperia Z2 General] Pandemic:
I like LP for sure ^^

Nice settings menu, systemui and taskswitcher.. Cant wait !! :D

Sent From My Z2 On Mw Revolution V2.4

.. A Piece Of Art From A Rom ..
[Xperia Z2 General] AttilaGolik:
According to this video I think we'll get 5.0.2 with 3.10 kernel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE77tGBdg6o
[Xperia Z2 General] joeliomason:
Did anyone else notice that there is no close all button on the multitasking D: surely that can't be right...
[Xperia Z2 General] yuskhayru:
Its 98% for sure. ;)

Sent from my D6503
[Xperia Z2 General] brouwerchris:
Z4 in video MWC has 5.0.2 and 3.10.49 kernel,see attached screenshot.
[Xperia Z2 General] kamalmawa:
Z3 running Sony lollipop firmware http://youtu.be/90Nfi4nqnd0
[Xperia Z2 General] Pandemic:
already posted few pages back -__-
[Xperia Z2 General] juicejuice:
My carrier has just listed April 13 for Lollipop release (Z2, Z3c, Z3). See here: http://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/Device-Updates/Handset-Software-Updates-03-03-2015/td-p/428088

BTW, my carrier is known to be a slow at releasing firmware updates so I imagine we will see leaks or earlier launches prior to April 13.
[Xperia Z2 General] brouwerchris:
Z3 in video MWC has 5.0.2 with 3.4.0 kernel,build 23.1.A.0.632
[Xperia Z2 General] chesterr:
So anyone got the album update? cause I didn't receive it yet
[Xperia Z2 General] IreshS:
English version of the Z3 running Lollipop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbctDtoY6Gg

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbctDtoY6Gg[/YOUTUBE]
[Xperia Z2 General] chesterr:
Ah I really thought it might be released today, but guess we have to see if they roll it out on Thursday.

waiting impatiently
[Xperia Z2 General] tsunii:
looks like no camera2 api :(
[Xperia Z2 General] bdithug:
Don't hold your breath. Nothing has been certified yet, plus someone from Sony posted on Sony forums today saying stay tuned in the upcoming weeks. My guess is we will be lucky to get it this month. What a joke of a company. I could see such a delay if Sony redid the entire ui, but they haven't. In fact the status bar pull down and quick settings looks exactly like aosp. Not that it's a bad thing, but it raises the question, what have they been doing this whole time? How is it that Sony takes so long to release an update, yet they do very little? Camera is identical, no new camera firmware, outdated kernel, etc. Instead it appears Sony has focused on renaming Walkman to music, and tinkering with the icons. Not much else has changed.

Minor aesthetics aside, my biggest gripe is that we still won't get a camera firmware update. How is it that the top smart phone cameras all use Sony hardware, but every other manufacturer can somehow optimize it better than Sony? IPhone, Samsung Galaxy Note 4, both of these cameras use Sony hardware, but their software blows Sony out of the water. It's pathetic. Really disappointed in Sony lately.
[Xperia Z2 General] el_doksh:
This's sony
[Xperia Z2 General] djgigi94:
They use this time for : update more devices than the others brands (all z series are a lot of phones), fix all lollipop bugs (and there are a lot of very bad bugs...infacts others brands are with a very bad lollipop update...maybe only htc have for now a bugless lollipop).In MWC preview lollipop firmware,z3 is more fluid than other phones with lollipop and it seems bugless.Quality of camera i don't know(nobody make a full review of camera) if they improve like z2 in 4.4.4...but for now camera is perfect ;) you must learn to use better ;) (i know it is too hard than others brands but , when you learn to use correctly, you can shoot fantastic photos ;) ) i disappoint other brands who make lollipop so fast and make their phones usless with a pathetic and lagging firmware