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[Saygus V²] PXL42:
or a phone + earphones at 900 USD after preorders ..... like htc, samsung, apple, ...... etc

remember the price in preorder is 599 usd !

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exactly same for me !!
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
:silly::mad:

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:good:

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You have already bid goodbye.So please don't mess with your silly ideas here any more further.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
For those who are looking for SD810......

"HTC M9 Benchmark Proves Snapdragon 810 Overheating

When LG announced the successor to the G Flex back in January, the specs detailed that the device packed a Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 processor. This alarmed a significant number of people, because despite the anticipation that had been built around Qualcomm’s next generation SoC, a number of reports claimed that the S810 had severe overheating issues. Following the G Flex 2 announcement, wariness of the device began to rise, but LG executives stepped forward, admitting that the company did run into some problems with the initial batch of chips but they had been fixed in the time since then.

S810 BenchmarkThis announcement soothed a lot of agitated nerves, and with Samsung declaring that it would use the Exynos SoC in its flagship, all heads turned to the next major flagship to use the chip, the HTC M9. When HTC announced the device at MWC in the beginning of March, all seemed well, but that relief was short lived when a Dutch site got their hands on the M9 and ran a few benchmarks with GFXBench alongside other non-S810 flagships, yielding alarming results. While all phones tend to heat up during benchmarks, this test saw the other devices running between 37.8 and 42.2°C with the M9 surface heating up to a scorching 55.4°C, attenuating earlier claims that the heating issues had been fixed. However, it should be kept in mind that this could be a bug on the M9 due to it running pre-release software, and if so, it is extremely likely that HTC will fix it before the official M9 release.

While some of us may not push our phones to these limits, or are willing to compromise on this detail, the revelation could be a deal-breaker for quite a few. Does this affect your outlook if you’re looking to upgrade this year? Are you willing to compromise to get your hands on the 64bit SoC? Let us know in the comments below!"
[Saygus V²] limpopo:
I cancelled my pre-order. That does not mean I have no interest in this phone's development. Also, please don't be rude to people who are merely expressing an opinion different from your own.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
To those who are not ready to wait till Mayor June and going for upcoming flagships see the specs of immediately forthcoming Sony Z4....

Sony Xperia Z4Sony

Sony Xperia Z4

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Features

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Performance

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NETWORK	Technology

GSM / HSPA / LTE

LAUNCH	Announced	Exp. announcement 2015, Q1

Status	Rumored. Exp. release 2015, Q2

BODY	Dimensions	-

Weight	-

SIM	Nano-SIM

- IP68 certified - dust proof and water resistant over 1 meter and 30 minutes

DISPLAY	Type	IPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors

Size	5.2 inches (~70.9% screen-to-body ratio)

Resolution	2560 x 1440 pixels (~565 ppi pixel density)

Multitouch	Yes, up to 10 fingers

Protection	Shatter proof glass

- Triluminos display

- X-Reality Engine

PLATFORM	OS	Android OS, v5.0 (Lollipop)

Chipset	Qualcomm MSM8994 Snapdragon 810

CPU	Quad-core 1.5 GHz Cortex-A53 & Quad-core 2 GHz Cortex-A57

GPU	Adreno 430

MEMORY	Card slot	microSD, up to 128 GB

Internal	32/64 GB, 4 GB RAM

CAMERA	Primary	20.7 MP, 5248 х 3936 pixels, autofocus, LED flash

Features	1/2.3'' sensor size, geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, HDR, panorama

Video	2160p@30fps, 1080p@60fps, 720p@120fps, HDR

Secondary	5 MP, 1080p@30fps

SOUND	Alert types	Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones

Loudspeaker	Yes, with stereo speakers

3.5mm jack	Yes

COMMS	WLAN	Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, hotspot

Bluetooth	v4.0, A2DP, apt-X

GPS	Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS, Beidou

NFC	Yes

Radio	FM radio with RDS

USB	microUSB v2.0 (MHL 3 TV-out), USB Host

FEATURES	Sensors	Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer

Messaging	SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM, Push Email

Browser	HTML5

Java	Yes, via Java MIDP emulator

- Fast battery charging: 60% in 30 min (Quick Charge 2.0)

- ANT+ support

- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic

- Xvid/MP4/H.264 player

- MP3/eAAC+/WAV/Flac player

- Document viewer

- Photo/video editor

BATTERY	Non-removable Li-Ion battery

Stand-by

Talk time

MISC	Colors	Black, White
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I'm OK with the time frame but I'll admit I'm confused as it was stated "we have some models at the office that work great". But that irrelevant now. We all knew the was a camera issue but at least they finally owned it. I also suspect accesory availability plays some part in the date. I'll wait it out though.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
I want Screen Protector and Extra Battery too other than earphone because I did not pre-register and I will not get Screen Protector and Extra Battery :D
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
+1
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Wireless HD receiver can't cost 269$. Can it? I would rather go for a cheaper accessory. Is there a way to suggest such a "refund"?
[Saygus V²] Wot-75:
According to your specs the Z4 won't work on Verizon. The V² will. Guess the Z4 isn't for e anyone on the largest carrier in the US.
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
So from the email I still see no talk about any new hardware working since CES (I assumed the antenna was already working). And remember several pages back they said they upgraded some hardware, but it would be a surprise? Well there's still no mention of what that would be. I just hope they have enough money left to refund the many of us that are going to ask for it now. I wish i had the patience that some of you have.
[Saygus V²] rammjet:
When I first became aware of the phone in January, I went searching for Wireless HD receivers. Very hard to find. Find a lot which claim to be HD but only use 5 GHz not 60 GHz. Finally found a few that were high end sold by Geffen, DVDO and Peerless at over $200. Then I found one which has gone out of production, "Zyxel WHD6215-RV2 Wall-Mountable Receiver - WirelessHD 1.0 - 60 GHz - 4 x HDMI v1.4a". I did a lot of searching and only found 34 available to buy in price ranging from $25 to $43. I snagged one at $25. The remaining 33 are probably gone now.

As for Qi, I grabbed one with 3 coils for better charging capability: CHOE Stadium Qi Wireless Charger 3-Coils Wide Charging Area Wireless Charging Pad
[Saygus V²] r_anush:
haha, alright! :)
[Saygus V²] post_break:
Requested my refund. That's just too long for them to sit on my money.
[Saygus V²] Reallionare:
WTF wrong with you????
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
I don't get the whole headphones thing. Everyone that wants headphones already has a pair they like. Or someone like me that rarely uses them and could care less. Like someone else mentioned including that wireless hd thing would be better. Especially if they said there's would be cheap (50 to 100 if I recall correctly). Save them some money on those "229" dollar headphones.

If they had said oh and upgrading everyone to 4gb ram and a current gen processor I would have continued to wait.

You should ask them what the upgraded hardware was they promised us a couple weeks a go. There hasn't been any more mention of it.

Last thing. Ask them if they will have enough money to refund us still since we were clearly kick starting it and not preordering anything. Despite what the website leads you to believe.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
Question asked in their twitter. Multiple times. Waiting for answer.
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
since there is nothing on the market that has the same V2 spes....

I THINK TO WAIT ......AND SEE ALL STORY HOW IT ENDS!!!

ITS ALMOST END OF MARCH ... so its matter of month and half for shipment ...

If i asked for refun ...nothing in my maind even the new S6 or even M9 ....both are not comparable with V2

V2 is aunique device :)

I will still wait no matter what people here think...some of them
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Thank you for believing in Saygus... I second that. No devices has come even an inch close to Saygus V-Squared. You are absolutely right. No.. I can't say that. I must say this superphone is out of this world. Cannot be compare!

We have to stay on track and give them the time and encouragement.

We have nothing much to lose. Saygus will lose more than all of us have lost combined.

I urge all to stay with us, stay with Saygus.

The end product will bring a smile on your face in May. Now, take that date down in your calendar.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
About refunds: Everyone who want's a refund, will get it. This is not a crowdfunding thing here, as Chad clearly told me.

If you want to leave the ship, simply jump off. :)

Regarding component upgrades: They're considering it, but didn't gave me a concise answer what component/s it would be.

I also asked about replacing the in ears by the Wi-HD receiver, maybe they'll come up with a solution to this, when it gets closer to the shipping date.

Price for Wi-HD receiver will be at about 50-80$.

Additional accessories like 'those' SqGl ear buds, batteries, covers, screen protector and maybe even more will be available through their shop soon.
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Are you still there? Can you take pictures of Saygus V2 devices and share here? :D
[Saygus V²] G8351427:
CyanogenMod Support

This is what I came here looking for. mastewman posted the video originally, and in case anyone else is looking for confirmation, it is at 4:54 in the following video:

https://youtu.be/axpFS3R-opA?t=4m54s

My main purpose for choosing the Saygus V2 is for root and development support. I am super tired of the mainstream phones having encrypted bootloaders, closed source drivers, and occasionally spotty third party ROM support. It is nice to know that if I am paying full price for what is essentially a "developer edition" of a phone, that it will be supported by CyanogenMod.
[Saygus V²] tocirah1:
Can you take pictures with the Saygus V2 devices and share here?

FTFY ;).
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Thanks for correction.. Take pictures OF device and take pictures WITH device.
[Saygus V²] G8351427:
Yeah. For $50-$80, I would much rather have the WiHD dongle. I have no use for earphones since I already have a set that I am happy with.

I guess it will come down to what their cost is for each item. My guess is those headphones are cheap to make, otherwise they would not include them in the thousands of pre-orders.
[Saygus V²] jimmyhauser:
I am glad to know the phone will support 3-button head sets :D
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Yes, I'm still at the CeBIT right now, have some pictures of the V² devices and Wi-HD receiver prototype on my SD card of the DSLR and will upload them, when I have a good network connection, since I want you to get a better quality than pictures taken by a smartphone camera.

My interview/QA thing is ready texted and I'll publish it, when the images are included.

Stay tuned! Eventhough it's quite a stressful time for me, I try my best to provide you some more materials.

Those of you, following me on Twitter may have noticed, that Chad has been at the MobileGeeks livestream at the intel tech.lounge today from 12:30 to 13:00 and the recording will be available on youtube or at the MobileGeeks.com Website soon.

You should have watched it. ;)

Cheers! :)
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
100% WITH U .... and i believe its matter of time to handale the phone between our hand;)

I also has to say the same ....STAY ON TRACK......STAY WITH SAYGUS V2..:good::)

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THATS GREAT NEWS:)

Waiting for ut full report:good::highfive:
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Thank you. Waiting for your news and photos :)
[Saygus V²] sheriffa:
:(

My S4 GPE will have to stick it out a couple more months.

To be honest I am going to purchase the first phone that has a removable battery and 2015 specs that hits the market. If it is the Saygus, then so be it. If it is the LG G4 then it is what it is. Either way I didn't want to enter the summer with my current phone but I guess I have no choice.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
What really chaps my a$$ about all this is that Saygus, if for some reason, they don't pull through on this, have released all their secrets of hardware that can be included in a smartphone. In the next year all the giants, Apple, Samsung, LG, HTC, etc are going to jump all over this technology and produce similar patented hardware components that are "similar" to Saygus' and that in itself will make the Saygus Super Phone, obsolete in the blink of an electronic eye.

They shouldn't have issued Pre-Orders on this phone until the phone was pretty much ready to mass-produce. They let the cat out of the bag here, IMO.

I'm gonna hang in there until mid-April, see what kind of updates become available between now and then. If there's some substantial progress towards production by that time or any tech reviews that are truly hands on, I'll probably stick around. If there still beating their chests at techo-conventions demo'ing the engineering unit, I'm out. I see there is still time to stay on board. The ship has a hole, but its not sunk yet. ;)
[Saygus V²] Oupss:
For the most courageous, you can actually remove Galaxy S6 battery.

http://www.zorrotek.com/2015/03/how-to-remove-non-removable-battery.html
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
Ahhhh lg g2, g3, moto x 13/14, droid turbo all came without ear buds. Don't think that's an unusual thing.
[Saygus V²] G8351427:
The only technology that I see in this phone that is unique is the WiHD transmitter, which is something that I never heard of before the Saygus V2 but is a specification that was apparently finalized in 2008. Everything else is something that has been on other phones already.

If the big name manufacturers wanted to include the same hardware as this V2, they wouldn't be ditching things like SD cards and removeable batteries.

Removeable batteries, SD card slots, and dev friendly attitude are the exactly the features that got me looking at this phone in the first place. I have a GPE S4 and it's been great, but it is getting old and slow.
[Saygus V²] sheriffa:
I saw the how to but it takes probably about 5 minutes. I am the type of user that always puts a fresh battery in my phone when I leave my house and always has one fully charged in my office, and car as well. In the almost 2 years I've had my phone I've never experienced not having juice. That would change drastically with the S6.

Either way, I really want the V2 to succeed but it needs to come to market. I guess the power of Samsung, HTC, LG, etc are that they know to start testing all the components well in advance of any release date. The delay due to the antenna and sub par components would have been addressed if Saygus had more experience in the field. I've worked in electrical engineering firms as an embedded software engineer. The testing of components should happen immediately as this is most often the reason for delays.

I will wait and hope the V2 is a smash hit which should propel the company to release the V3 (cubed?) on time along side other giant retailers hopefully next year.
[Saygus V²] Purest:
Lets hope they give us a Wireless HD receiver instead.

They're making a killing off of interest by holding our money, they can afford to throw in a receiver.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
I'm going to stay afloat with the ship. At least until I see the LG G4.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
What was exciting about the email last night? They hyped up Twitter, "exciting news coming". There was nothing exciting about the delay becoming officially announced.

Some tech demos of this device would be nice. They still have yet to:

1. Provide any audio output from the two front speakers. It'd be nice to hear them in action.

2. Use of the IR Blaster to perhaps operate a couple of the monitors they've had in their booths/exhibits.

3. Use of the two SD Card slots? Show some 128 GB cards in the slot and data successfully written to those locations.

4. Waterproof Technology....drop it in some water, shake it out, use it. Proof is in the pudding.

5. Sunlight Viewable Screen....how about a live demo....OUTSIDE in the sun?

6. Sensors, show us how they work. Real world use?

7. Bluetooth/NFC, show us some action?

8. Fingerprint Scanner....make it work, again, show us some action of it in use?

9. Internet connectivity...show us some WiFi& Network speed rates, just show us something that tells us the device is capable of working on the internet...haven't seen that yet.

10. Lastly, the cameras. Let's see what this device can do!

Make us believe the phone works to the degree we won't be skeptical. None of these things have been shown to work yet? IMO, they are still very much in Engineering and will be for some time to come. Would anyone else be of the opinion they'd like to see these features work, prior to shipping? Would anyone else like to know all this stuff actually works before it shows up at their doorstop? I would.
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
I highly doubt they hold our money for interest. Let along to be "killing" one. They aim much higher. I remember them saying they need a new name for this type of device. They see themselves like Apples competition. Not getting into how much of it is justified, just saying it is not "interest" of couple of thousand tiny investors they are after. Latest news from Andreas was about them considering receiver. I mean if earphones are 269$, and they are killing themselves to make accessories prime quality and affordability, then receiver wouldn't be much more than 100$. Which is confirmed by our latest news from Hanover (50-80$). I see no problem if they throw in a receiver this cheap instead of over-the-Apple priced earphones.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
The speakers are quite nice! Had a chance, to test them today in the morning. Really good sound for a mobile device and it doesn't need a table or something to give a great sound. They're not yelling like other speakers do and don't overdrive, when you put the volume up to the highest setting.

Quite balanced audio for my favour, but maybe someone else can share his opinion on those here.

Go and visit them this week in Hall 5, Stand A50 at CeBIT 2015 in Hannover, Germany! :)

You find my promised news and the result of the QA session here: http://dev.erhard.cc/saygusV2/visit_cebit2015
[Saygus V²] slowpok22:
What would make the wireless HD any better than my Chrome cast?
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
It beems the hole screen to the TV, though it doesn't matter, what application you are using. Real HD and no noticeable delay.

You could do even business presentations with it, if you plug the Wi-HD receiver to a projector. ;)
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Thanks for sharing :)
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Before I placed my order in March 1st week I had almost zeroed to the choice of selecting Note4 and went through entire xda threads consisting of 1000 of pages for more than month and still doing it.On going through them I found from the customer's postings that even though Note 4 is still the best phone among the now available flagships it does have many flaws to which Samsung is giving deaf ears.It is then I saw Saygus having better specs most of them superceding to Note 4.So I fixed my choice on Saygus and placed the order.Now I am not bothered if the phone is delayed upto even July because even then Saygus would be the topmost among the then flagships including the Note 5 if it is released,because all of them will not be having a memory card slot and a removable battery ! So I may request you to please relook into your decision after going through the xda Note 4 threads.
[Saygus V²] Soltkemecsei:
Thanks, excellent job, our ambassador! ;)

So as I expected the camera sensor will be IMX230. :)

I have not received the email yet. Maybe because I will get a WiHD dongle instead of the earphones. ;)
[Saygus V²] limpopo:
Good questions, Andreas. Thanks for taking so much trouble over this.

Interesting that they are in fact using IMX230 (a new Sony sensor), which seemed unlikely earlier, but I suppose this delay allows them to get delivery of those parts. It still appears that they have a long way to go to finish the camera though.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Sorry to you if my words were a bit harsh.But your so called others should also be somewhat gentle in their repeated mudslinging and insulting.If they feel that the phone is not up to their expectations or the company is cheating them,they have the very freedom to not buy the phone or cancel the preorder or postorder except the repeated mudslinging and insulting. They should have at least some respect to other loyal customers also even though not to the Saygus company.
[Saygus V²] funkbuqet:
I am pretty disappointed. Thankfully I did not pre-order. I am still using my Samsung S3 and really do not want to wait until June (I assume it will be a while before non-pre-order folks can actually get the phone) to upgrade. This is still the phone i really want, but I may have to settle for something lesser that is actually available.

Has anyone heard if Sprint has actually approved this phone for use on it's network yet? Since they have not even started production I would not be surprised if the Sprint lab hasn't even started on it yet.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Same with me also.And I am going to put a ticket with this request because I feel that there is no use in posting it here other than asking them directly.
[Saygus V²] mastewman:
What was your overall perception?

So, what was your overall perception of the phone? (i.e. appearance, build quality...) Also, was the samples there at CeBit 2015 Final or still Engineering? :cool:
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
We are not in US.I know that every flagship phone including Z4 has International version which will work with every local carrier like our Saygus.
[Saygus V²] Cullenator:
http://dev.erhard.cc/saygusV2/visit_cebit2015#antutu-benchmark-of-the-device

I am very much looking forward to this! I am thinking (hoping) that the antutu benchmark will satisfy those who want to know why they aren't using the 810 (or whatever).
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Then what about removable memory card?You won't get a 2015 phone with bot removable battery and removable memory card!
[Saygus V²] scotth324:
Had a look at the IMX230 sensor and it isn't being shipped till April 2015 so this could be reason for delay buy a good reason for me. Sounds like it is a good image sensor. The camera quality is very important for me. One of the top things on my list along with battery life, sunlight screen, call quality and speaker loudness and clarity. The waterproof is also nearly a must now from having the z1 compact. Really excited for this phone.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
thank you!

Thank you very much Andreas. Valuable information right there. Cheers!
[Saygus V²] sheriffa:
The memory card is not an issue for me as I keep everything on a personal cloud NAS (RAID 1) at home. My issue is a phone without power is a $600 paper weight.
[Saygus V²] hella356:
$229 earbuds? Something tells me that's a load of manure. At least the pre-payers will get something for their troubles, but I agree with other posters that a Wireless HD dongle or wireless charging pad would have been a far better freebie. Or maybe a spare battery.

Still no good word about the USB 2/3 thing. Nice of Andreas to give us some feedback about the speakers, very good to hear.

I'm curious about the soft keys at the bottom. After using soft keys on my old GS2, I've never really liked the hardware button on my GS4, although many would have the opposite opinion. Has there been any word on whether these are fully programmable on the V2?