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[Xperia Z2 General] Vuja1:
If you go on www.wi-fi.org site and search for that ID or for D6603 you will see that there is no information like this :(
[Xperia Z2 General] _delice_doluca_:
I believe, focusing on mobile phones less means they will not be releasing a flagship twice a year, nor many side models like Samsung does. Also that could mean, they will not be leaning towards to creating softwares or apps of their own -again, mostly- like Samsung does.

Or maybe they are talking about many devices which we can put on our wrists, fingers etc.

There are some companies out there, almost about to claim Android as their own by putting so much (maybe more than Google engineers, yet failing to accomplish what they can) effort to change (meaning = torture, just like Orcs being created from Elves) and even making new deals with alternative operating systems, platforms etc.

If I were Sony I would want to keep things as simple as it is. I already have great achievements on screen and camera technologies, even some other mobile brands buying them from me. Not even mentioning the music world. Have you seen my Walkman app and experienced my music quality with clearaudio+ ? So why would I want to ditch a market that I can exist by only doing what I do best and adding a little bit of what's best on the software world (Android of course) with out further unnecessary modifications? All I need is 3 devices; a flagship, a budget phone and a tablet.

Besides a Japanese company would not wanna stop making it's people be proud of them, especially when they are really good at doing it.
[Xperia Z2 General] benjmiester:
I hope it rolls out like tomorrow, lol. They're kind of running out of February to keep their promise (more of a goal). HTC missed it, it happens. But I hope they don't. Only 6 days though.... tik tok Sony!:D
[Xperia Z2 General] effective:
Sony is not the company that takes its deadlines srsly when it comes to updates :silly: It will be delayed for 10/15 days i bet. Thats why im not in a rush (and there is no point to be because 4.4 is good enough :highfive:
[Xperia Z2 General] digitallysick:
You know at least HTC and Samsung updated phones on time, why is Sony so delayed ? I hope the update makes a lot of things better, im almost afraid to update after 4.4.4 took away SD card access (properly)
[Xperia Z2 General] Pandemic:
Why Sony is delayed ?

They take thier time and fix the problems and dont rush like HTC/Samsung, that is a... Smart choise !

Sent From Somewhere On Earth With My Z2 ^^
[Xperia Z2 General] Farooq95:
I hope they surprise us with 5.2 maybe?
[Xperia Z2 General] effective:
5.1 just rolled out for nexus 5. Good one my friend :laugh::highfive:
[Xperia Z2 General] avercros:
February is almost gone, where is my lollipop update?

Sony, never again.

I will buy a Motorola or an iPhone.
[Xperia Z2 General] reptile64:
Buy a Motorola or an iPhone :p
[Xperia Z2 General] Unlimate:
4.4.4 is fine but i want to see how Lolipop looks on xperia devices
[Xperia Z2 General] Haldi4803:
i wouldn't mind sony brining updates a little earlier.

Sadly i have absolutly no idea of how many people work in Sony software development, how many of them are working on the Lolipop rom, and how the software department is influenced by the bad financial state in which sony mobile is.

The only thing we really know is that all Lolipop updates should come roughly at the same time for the whole Z series.
[Xperia Z2 General] Vuja1:
:D we don't know anything :D I think that software developers from sony don't know when sony will rollout Lollipop. This is Enigma for all world :P

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[Xperia Z2 General] bdithug:
Yes it did:

https://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=24754
[Xperia Z2 General] tOrNadO™:
Haldi, U do know that internet has like 80% of just S**ty stuff lying around. And lot of sites are BS, atleast partly.. Very few provide accurate info and facts. Plus there's a reason for the delay. They fired like too many people from the Mobile department after they faced the loss in 2013. Probably less staff? It seems legit. As every user sees, this shouldn't be an excuse. But complaining about it on xda won't benefit to anything good. And since there were like 5 Beta's, i believe the update will be rock stable unlike other OEMs(Sammy,HTC,LG..). And ofc, the financial status is also important. They are actually recovering faster from the loss. From a loss of 1.2Billion in 2013 to 900million in 2014 is a really good progress. I would hope to see better progress in a year or 2 from now. I wish i could agree more with u on the rollout thing, but if updates are rolled out to all Z series at once, their servers should be capable of handling that much traffic worldwide, which is not that easy to own. Especially for a company like Sony Mobiles who are still recovering from the losses. I'd hope to see Z3 and Z2 updates first, then Z1 and ZU and then Z.. Lets hope it arrives by 21st..
[Xperia Z2 General] bgumble:
It's really hard to follow this thread :eek:
[Xperia Z2 General] EnIXmA:
I am done with Sony phones, selling my z2.. Would be buying the z4 tablet though
[Xperia Z2 General] reptile64:
I want to buy your Z4 ?
[Xperia Z2 General] EnIXmA:
Lol
[Xperia Z2 General] El.Guaje:
Just follow XperiaNews on twitter and check this page: http://blogs.sonymobile.com/category/software-upgrades-2/
[Xperia Z2 General] Kanchuka:
hey guys

some times this will be like this.we can get the update after certified the lollipop update in PTCRB.like this if they certified the updated today or tomorrow we can get the update in same day i mean ftf ok. i remember i had xperia z ultra those days certified kitkat update in x.xxx.x.681 in 19th march 2014. and we get the update in same day
[Xperia Z2 General] chesterr:
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[Xperia Z2 General] El.Guaje:
I think that "shutter speed control, aperture control, and more camera options" will not appear on Sony's Lolipop. Don't know about camera api2.

Any one with Lolipop devices should try this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2_compatibility_test

Check if your devices support or not.
[Xperia Z2 General] chesterr:
I tried it on CM12 and it didn't work as in mentioned as incompatible.
[Xperia Z2 General] stanley08:
I agree with you. Most people on here are Sony fanboys, and they will support Sony even if the update comes in the year 2020. I have the Xperia Z2 and it is no doubt the best mobile I've ever used. Sony had always been below par until Z1C. Came from Samsung, HTC next. 2013 HTC M7 and S4 have lollipop. I thought the update nightmare was over when Z1 got 4.4.4 super quick. Oh well! Still, we wait! Hopefully it's worth the wait.
[Xperia Z2 General] Pandemic:
Yes bro exactly and i am one of them, i never had another mobile then Sony so i will always support them no matter what, it is not only about thier updates but also thier products, i just like it !! ^^

I know hwre are people that hates or dislikes Sony, well is that only about the delayed updated of LP ?

Come one.. Be realistic and i believe it is sure worth to wait ^^
[Xperia Z2 General] skellum:
anytime soon we can have lollipop. :good:

http://www.argyllfreepress.com/2015/03/14/lollipop-updatexperia-z/
[Xperia Z2 General] bdithug:
I just got word that Slowny is the name of Sony's Internet Service Provider. That's why the OTA is still uploading to their servers.
[Xperia Z2 General] tOrNadO™:
You're right.. Its better to wait and get a stable update than get an early buggy update.. From what i see, all devices which got lollipop are too buggy.. Lot of fc's and stuff on G3, Moto, Sam****s too.. Probably htc one m8 and sammy s5, note4 were the only ones with stable fw.. And its undoubtedly YES, I'm a Sony fanboy because of the quality of the product, durability, features, Waterproofing, H/w,etc make me wana go for the same brand again and again..!!!
[Xperia Z2 General] Rajeev:
Still uploading :D I think they are using 2G mobile network for uploading the update... Superfast speed :p:p:p
[Xperia Z2 General] kunaltyagii:
Its just the same image rotating at different sites. and nobody even knows if it true. might just be a hoax.
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
It is a hoax image from a serial news fabricator.
[Xperia Z2 General] stanley08:
I don't hate Sony, i don't have the luxury of time to hate anyone or anything. At the same time, I'm not Sony biggest fan. And what happens if they release a software that's still buggy after all this while? Would u still think highly of them and make excuses for them? As I said, i really hope it's worth it.
[Xperia Z2 General] tOrNadO™:
They probably use the same isp like u dude.. ;) :p
[Xperia Z2 General] Rajeev:
Haa haa exactly dude.. ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
Z3 lollipop started. Z2 anyone checked?
[Xperia Z2 General] rubino25:
Realy?! Where?
[Xperia Z2 General] sonyfan45:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=59474683
[Xperia Z2 General] yuskhayru:
We are next. Brace yourself boys.

Sent from my D6503
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
can anyone with Z2 unlocked bootloader check EMMA? Sony usually upload there first..
[Xperia Z2 General] AlanDS:
Build number 23.1.A.0.690 rollout started for Z3... Still no update for Z2....

I am expecting to get update for Z2 tomorrow. Lets see!

Now official announcement has come for Z3 :

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/03...lollipop-rollout-xperia-z3-xperia-z3-compact/
[Xperia Z2 General] yuskhayru:
Just now check via Xperifirm, yea the update for z3 was real dude! Here i made a ss for it~ :D
[Xperia Z2 General] kunaltyagii:
nothing for Z2 yet? just curious.
[Xperia Z2 General] Steve3581:
Nothing yet.. and I doubt we will be today (or the next few days) judging by the comment on the Sony Blog....

I quote:

You’ll see the upgrade hit first devices in the Nordics and Baltics, continuing to further markets, for more Xperia Z Series products, starting in around two weeks time* – we’ll share the latest here, as it happens.
[Xperia Z2 General] chesterr:
Yea there's nothing happening actually. Maybe today or tomorrow, hopefully. We've been waiting so long :p
[Xperia Z2 General] gamer649:
We’ll start the upgrade at beginning of 2015 for the core Xperia Z3 and Xperia Z2 series – continuing thereafter for all remaining devices above.

You’ll see the upgrade hit first devices in the Nordics and Baltics, continuing to further markets, for more Xperia Z Series products, starting in around two weeks time* – we’ll share the latest here, as it happens.

Yeah, cheers Sony. So not only have you not been very informative you've also decided to cut it close to the end of the beginning of 2015 for the Z2. Would have been nice for all three phones to be updated at the same time, considering that they are virtually the same bloody phone.

So guys, it looks like week 14 (30th March-5th April) for us to be getting 5.0. And also, nothing has been certified on PTCRB for the Z3 but Sony is rolling it out. Looks like it doesn't have to appear on there after all.
[Xperia Z2 General] noshatake:
Oh God...WORST.OEM.EVER. They cannot even keep TWO of their promises...The Z2 is ALMOST IDENTICAL to the Z3, WHY delay the fu***** update TWO WEEKS?!
[Xperia Z2 General] Pandemic:
Easy man, just stay calm, if someone recived the update for Z3 or even the z2 with LP then he or she make sure and ftf for us or pre-rooted 5.0.2 ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] chesterr:
Oh wow I just read the blog as well and I was like WTF. is it this hard? damn I think they should've fired the guy who's taking these decisions lol
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
They promised two things - by Q1 and February. They only broke one. Two weeks later is still Q1.
[Xperia Z2 General] adamsmth663:
im never one to await updates etc and ususally couldnt care less

but even i can see this is just bullcrap on sonys part

the z3 and z2 are identical

asif they need to piss of the userbase by making us wait a further 2 week
[Xperia Z2 General] dkionline:
That means the Z Series will be updated in the comming 2 weeks., we can get it today or anytime in this week.
[Xperia Z2 General] Koostis:
Man, I understand that a company needs to update THE flagship device first to satisfy the people who actually bought Z3 instead Z2. Otherwise, why would they have paid more for the same device. But they seem to have forgotten that all the Xperia Z have been waiting friggen 2-3 months longer than other OEMs, was it really that hard to release the update for all the Z at once? Did they really not have enough time to do this.
[Xperia Z2 General] Pandemic:
+1

Exactly !!
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
Anyone have guts pls flash the Z3 ftf to Z2. I tried the kitkat firmware b4, it booted but the touchscreen can't work. Reflashed the Z2 and it got back to normal.
[Xperia Z2 General] gamer649:
I honestly doubt that it will be sooner than 2 weeks. I reckon week 14 and no sooner.
[Xperia Z2 General] romdroid.:
****ing gay Sony looks like they didn't improve anything on the camera
[Xperia Z2 General] Bn Waheed:
Z2 and Z3 are IDENTICAL.

4.4.4 on Z3 was a direct port from Z2 4.4.4.

it's very easy to port.

no idea why sony is doing this. the weirdest phone manufacture i've ever seen in my entire life!
[Xperia Z2 General] yakupTR:
I think update tonight or tomorrow ...

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[Xperia Z2 General] zodiac100:
The only improvement you can hope to see is improvement to the light sensitivity. The blown out highlights issue has been around since the original Z but it got really bad after the 4.4.4 update. The z3 series also had the same problem at launch but Sony seems to have addressed the issue there with further kitkat updates. Shame they didn't bother with the rest but I hope to see the same fixes in lollipop.

Apart from that, I don't expect any other improvements to the camera software. Stop using auto settings would be my advice
[Xperia Z2 General] adamsmth663:
i think it should be pretty easy to port the z3 rom to z2? no

i mean its almost identical hardware
[Xperia Z2 General] Bn Waheed:
i think you need z2 kernel
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
Any comment on this??!!

http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/1...-does-not-support-manual-camera-settings-raw/
[Xperia Z2 General] fidasek:
What comment? It's joke of a company.
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
So you're telling me Samsung, LG are jokers too for not implementing RAW?
[Xperia Z2 General] fidasek:
I have a Sony phone, I don't give a damn about Samsung or LG. It has taken Sony maybe even 3 months more to update their flagship devices and what do we get? Well, in fact, nothing plus it's late.
[Xperia Z2 General] bdithug:
It's funny. All those telling me the past month that Sony releases rock solid updates, bug free, and they spend more time with their updates before rolling out, etc... Well they didn't spend any time here. One of the bigger features of lollipop is MIA
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
When it comes to the speed of updates, you kids come running and yelling that Samsung and whatever is faster. When it comes to the features, you said Sony have no RAW API. what a joke.
[Xperia Z2 General] MattJaO3D:
calling all devs lol,, :D

nice find
[Xperia Z2 General] gamer649:
Well I was preaching patience because it wouldn't get the update any quicker (I'm still going to preach it but that's another story). I was expecting to get the update at the same time as the Z3, you know cause it's the same damn phone. But it is stupid that we have got to wait another two weeks.

Hopefully the update is solid and relatively bug free. Give it a few months and hopefully some developers will find a way to port the missing camera features to our LP update. Google should have made it mandatory for the new camera API's to be in the LP update. Sony have taken the mick out of the Z series owners now though, last to update, previous 6 month release cycle, and other things to damage their eco system.
[Xperia Z2 General] MrCatalyst:
I honestly don't mind the wait. Sure, promises were broken and it's not okay, but a little wait won't kill anyone - especially since it's based on 5.0.2, instead of 5.0. Source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Chec...the-Android-5.0-Lollipop-update-video_id66854

I'd rather wait for a polished update, than one full of bugs. If there are really bad bugs once it gets to Z2, then we can complain about it, but for now, let's be thankful it's based on 5.0.2 with minimalistic UI from Sony - namely quick settings. Remember when other OEM's messed up the quick settings by heavily changing the UI? Yeah.
[Xperia Z2 General] IreshS:
Whats so important about the new camera API??
[Xperia Z2 General] blackhawk_LA:
Isn't it theoretically possible to develop a Raw camera app whatever the firmware includes?

I had a Xiaomi Mi2s and there was a dev that make Mi2raw, which let us take pictures in raw format
[Xperia Z2 General] adryanosss:
Ability to use manual settings. And that's a fuc*ing damn camera phone or Sony used to call Z1/2/3 like that. Why is a camera phone when a Chinese company, Oppo, has a lot more settings on their stupid phone?
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
However on phonearena I can see on M4 Lollipop

It still has Manual Mode.

I wait for the reply from some polish users who have it already.

It would be CRAZY it they'd strip the camera down.

It would made my bye bye to Sony.

It's actually hard to believe.

---------- Post added at 02:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:30 PM ----------

Edit

One of the users on polish Xperia site on Facebook

who already has 5.0.2 says that

there is NO difference in functionality between 4.4.4 and 5.0.2
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
1)M4 doesn't have full manual.

2)The upgrade to lollipop by Samsung and LG doesn't add any major functionalities either.
[Xperia Z2 General] fidasek:
I guess you didn't get what "manual camera" means. At all.

[MENTION=4704767]lee480[/MENTION]: What's your obsession with other manufacturers? Have Google introduced manual camera and raw shooting as one of the main Lollipop features? Yes, they have. Have Sony added the needed API to their Lollipop update, which arrived years after updates of others? No, they haven't. What's the story here? Is it good that they haven't provided it?
[Xperia Z2 General] alb3rtt:
I just feel like many of us XDA users will always be disappointed with an OEM, regardless of what they do. Even if they do give us manual mode, etc, people would STILL be disappointed and state that they will leave sony.

It happens on every device forum i've seen, from samsung, to lg, to nexus devices, to htc, to sony. XDA members as a whole have gone from being grateful for even the slightest bit of support to being the spoiled fat kid who will always cry and through a tantrum even if they receive everything they want. I remember a time where devices waiting YEARS for BROKEN releases and people were absolutely dying from happiness when it was released. I remember when we would be given no sources at all, no documentation, nothing at all, yet people still managed to write GPU drivers from scratch for devices and even update the kernel for 2.xx to 3.4.xx. (I'm referencing my first device, the i5800).

Is it good that we always push manufacturers? Yes. It will encourage further community support, etc, however, I feel like users should stop being so ungrateful and give credit where its due. (Goes for people attitudes towards devs as well)

Sony is giving us a BRAND NEW kernel base (3.10), Android 5.0.2, a refined UI (keep in mind sony also has a theme engine so if you don't like the stock theme, you can change it or just manually flash a theme) and probably many hidden extra goodies which we don't know yet since the update has not even dropped yet for the Z2.

They also gave our devices absolutely amazing locked bootloader support, unlocked bootloader support, etc. "What about drm, etc?" Sony is just covering their asses by doing this. Its to be expected.

A beautiful design, waterproofing, amazing camera (Even without manual settings), dustproofing, amazing display....

Can things be improved? Of course. Should we still be happy? Definitely. We are pretty well off compared to other devices.

I've even seen people complaining about battery life on kitkat. Are they serious? I've consistently been getting 7+ hours SOT with only stamina mode enabled. This is double what my nexus 5 used to get and 2.5 hours more than what my G2 used to average....

It's absolutely amazing battery life.
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
I don't know this is directed at who but I know what's full manual.

There's nothing obsessive about other OEMs. But a little intrigued that some users here (the same few people liking each other posts) choose selective comparison. When Samsung launched lollipop early, these people harp on the speed of the update but choose to ignore that the firmware is full of bugs. When Sony firmware came, people come with weird reasoning (eg Sony said this is a camera phone, forgetting that every OEM says the same thing) that Sony must include Manual API but choose to ignore, majority dont.

Fortunately, XDA users are the minority compared to Sony's large user base. They listen to the majority.
[Xperia Z2 General] gamer649:
Rachel: Thank you, how can I help you today?

Markus: Now that the Z3 has had the lollipop update begin to roll out, when will the Z2 receive it's lollipop update? Both devices are virtually the same and the initial announcement stated that the rollout would start with the core Z3 and Z2 devices.

Rachel: The update has been released for the Z3 and Z3 Compact today, as a rolled out process. Unfortunately there is no information at the moment or dates of when it will be released for the other Z handsets

Markus: I have seen that it has been released for the Z3 series today, and the new announcement from today states roughly two weeks for other Z series phones. Is there any particular reason you are aware of as to why there is a delay considering the Z2 and Z3 are virtually the same phone.

Rachel: The phones are different phones, so it will be released firstly for the most recent Z range handset and go down the list from there

Markus: They run on the same board with virtually the same internal hardware though. Would it be suspected that the rollout will be two weeks from today for the Z2 and then two weeks after the Z2 update for the Z1 and Z1 compact?

Rachel: We would aim for two weeks from today for the Z2 handsets, however there isn't a specific date

Well there you have it, aiming for two weeks but no date has been set.
[Xperia Z2 General] IreshS:
Soo true. Only thing all this complaining does is reduce the overall quality of the forum. XDA is not a place for complaining and how ever much you complain here it's not going to change much. It's a pain to see people whining about why they are leaving Sony when you come here to check out news and updates and help people.
[Xperia Z2 General] bdithug:
I also remember that time. A big difference is the prices for phones now though. I paid $200 for my Captivate years ago. And that was considered one of the better phones on the market at the time. You got what you paid for though.

Now people spend $800 for a device, sometimes more, so the consumer should expect more out of it. The market is much different now a days.

You can't expect prices to shoot up drastically and not have consumers expect more for their dollar. That's just unfair.
[Xperia Z2 General] yakupTR:
Xperia z2 when? Your mean two weeks? Or today? Which???

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[Xperia Z2 General] gamer649:
It's shaping up to be two weeks, however no date has been set.
[Xperia Z2 General] ImS0Raw:
For everyone saying it should be certified by PTCRB before we can receive it. You're wrong. Go check out yourself, roll out for Z3 started but there's no certification on the website of PTCRB. Which is great, I don't need to constantly refresh (DDoS) the website anymore XD
[Xperia Z2 General] esps:
Starting our Android 5.0, Lollipop rollout: Xperia Z3 & Xperia Z3 Compact

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/03/16/starting-our-android-5-0-lollipop-rollout-xperia-z3-xperia-z3-compact/