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[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
I just did a quick search of the website and didn't see a phone number, but they did add ces "review" videos. Maybe those have been there? Idk I haven't noticed before.

Anyways, I'm not going to call them. Not at this point at least (I hate talking on the phone. Only when the GF wants to chat. Strangely I have no problems skyping or hangouts video calling. Weird). If you find a number to call post it. I'm sure someone here will call.
[Saygus V²] letinsh:
You didn't look too hard.....

https://www.saygus.com/investors/

At the bottom....
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
That's for investors. I thought you meant a cs number.
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
they don't answer either way.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Omg.. It was so surreal.. I dreamt of myself unboxing the Saygus V2. I was so excited.

..... But.. Yea.. it turns out to be just a dream....

:confused:
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Seems like people just want to be upset now. They were mad because twitter s silent with saygus and now that saygus has been posting things on Twitter again, people are bad because they aren't posting what people want to hear.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Oh yes I have called them before... Several occasions.. But never get it..

It is a voice message tell me to leave a message. But I try to leave a message, it says mailbox full!

:confused:
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
The Twitter messages were negative to their customers and provide us with no new information. That's why we're upset.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
In customer service, you can never pleased everyone...

Guys, they will make it right. They are improving.

Very soon we will get our deserved phone of the year.. Its gonna rock big time..
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
And you're always going to have fan boys like you who will follow like a sheep no matter what happens.

recipe for success ( communicating with your clients respectfully.)
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
I'm curious. What cs do you think they are improving on? I've only seen more complaints and negative/non informative tweets as more time has gone on. We know nothing new. Not one thing since the preorders went up and since ces. Nothing else is working since ces a month a go either.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I'm not here to argue, but how were they negative?
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Yes, I'm sure this will happen. And I don't care if it's a month later or not.

I understand that some of you are very upset because of their bad communication, but I'm quite sure they are aware of it, but can't change it right now, because there is too much happening at the same time. If you expect them to be a small company with lets say ~10-50 employees and you get so much attention and have to compete against the global players like Motorola or Samsung, this can be a hard time.

Nevertheless, the communication has to be improved.

PLEASE Saygus, send us an E-Mail with some updates and what's going on right now!

Is this new? See: https://www.saygus.com/terms-conditions/

That would be atleast a first vague official date then.

UPDATE: Some new Twitter activities of Saygus.

https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/574006261127061506
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
Read a couple of the tweets mentioned a couple pages back. One: a guy says nicely they need to provide 2 way communication or they're going to turn people away. Saygus said in reply: we know this, but we only want TRUE FOLLOWERS. And some other junk about money.

Another tweet reply when someone asked if shipping was still on track. Saygus replied: Apple was MONTHS BEHIND schedule. YOU won't have to wait nearly that long.

This is not verbatim, but what I recall. I'm taking both of those as negative responses to customers. And if you check their tweet history there's lots of things said similarly.
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Statements about refunds

Saygus did some new Tweets recently and they wrote something about refunds, what may interest some of you guys.

https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/574008986107801600

https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/574009517521903616

So it looks like refunds will be relatively easy. Maybe someone can report if it's going really so smooth, as they describe.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Hi Andreas.. This is not new. It has always been there.. I was just wondering why people keep asking about shipping dates.. The expected shipping dates are well indicated.

For the communication, I have to agree with you guys on that. More updates on status. But well, they did! On their Twitter page recently. So go and check it out!

Please be more understanding towards them. They are not Samsung, not Apple, not HTC.. They are Saygus! Can others comes up with such a features? They are awesome.. Just hold on as they finalize their final showpiece of the year!

Way to go Saygus!
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
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Some updates from Twitter..

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[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
Couple of weeks for shipping...thats realy good news

i think for those thy canceled there order should think again

saygus is now is trying to comunicate by tweets and they are trying very hard to finish up the v2 which will be soon

so all should be patient thats all about it :)
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
Shipping news in a couple weeks. Not shipping in a couple of weeks :)
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
That's fine if YOU take them as negative but you can't read text with your own inflection added in. I see the True followers thing as, but I think the thing about Apple was just them pointing out that this isn't that unusual.
[Saygus V²] OkayThereBud:
I'm happy standing back and watching from a safe distance.
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
You see the true followers thing as what?
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Sorry, I can see how that could be taken as negative.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
Well, they are Mormons over there aren't they? Makes me uncomfortable to be a "true follower" I prefer "superfan"!
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
The guy said they're going to turn away people without communication. Saygus said. We know this, but want true followers.

How is that not negative?

They're effectively saying: we know we're turning away people, but we don't care. We want followers like isheep (or what ever the android equivalent is).

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Lol. Super fan. There's a better word.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
Superfan is a better marketing term, Saygus you need a PR firm dudes, seriously!
[Saygus V²] s-lps3:
I've been kinda m.i.a for a minute in this thread but reason being is because of the lack of new news and all of the winning going on.

It clearly states on their website that shipping date is expected on the 30th of this month. In the terms and conditions it states that there can be delays so I'm not really sure what the complaining is about. MWC just wrapped up and on Monday I'm sure they will be back on track talking with the Saygus team and developers on the progress of the V2. Seems to me that you guys might be over thinking the whole big announcement there was a big announcement the phone is going to be compatible with the new sandisk 200GB sd card. That is a big announcement 464gb capable phone. So people if you couldn't live up to the terms than you shouldn't have placed the order on the V2.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I said I could see how it could be negative, I'm not sure why you are still arguing that point when I agreed.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
s-lps3.. Well said! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

I am with you.. Wonder what's the fuss about anyway.... All their info is on the website, especially shipping etc.

Keep up the good work Saygus.. You have us to back you up! :thumbup: :)
[Saygus V²] bnick22:
I agree with those who've been turned off by Saygus's recent communication—especially on Twitter. Their attitude toward their customers, shown first by lack of communication and now by somewhat defensive, combative, and unrefined communication, concerns me a lot. They're pinning all of their success on the outcome of the phone itself, but they're forgetting that an enthusiastic and engaged community is crucial for growing a business—particularly a fledgling one like theirs. Most or all of us on here want to be fans. We've been waiting a long time for someone to build a phone like this. But it's going to be difficult to be raving fans when the company has an image problem. OnePlus dealt with this when they started out, after making some bad missteps. OnePlus seems to have broken through though.

But being clueless about marketing in general (specifically community and brand management) doesn't mean they can't make a phone, so I'm holding out for now, and keeping my pre-order in place (My Nexus 4's battery might not make it long enough though...). My tenuous hope at this point is that the phone ends up working, and I never have to interact with Saygus. But my wish is that they'd actually get a brand voice that resonates with us, like their phone does, so that I can enjoy the phone and promote the underdog.

Saygus, you claim that you're making a phone we'll love. You've pitched yourself as the Android everyman that had the gumption to make a device by the people and for the people. Slightly unrefined marketing might fit that persona, so maybe we can get past the weird logo and the high school quality website and conference displays. We've looked past those—and your track record—for now. We've also looked past the M9 and S6, and have stayed the course. You have our money, and we've tentatively given you our trust. In response, don't disrespect us with silence. And when you speak, don't treat us like an annoyance.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
This thread has just turned into a useless and repetitive gripe session.
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
Been thinking the same thing, it's a shame but understandable. $600 is a large amount of money. I'm not canceling, enjoying the ride.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I get that it is a good chunk of money and some people NEED a new phone instead of just wanting one, which is my situation. For me, the only other phones out there I'd consider are blackberry passport or the yotafone 2, but the prices are similar and both come with major consequences. So I'm like you, gathering information, not obsessing but staying on the boat.
[Saygus V²] Vapour_909:
If you believe in Saygus, that's cool. If not, that's fine as well.

Just post new findings, questions, or meaningful info.

Let's keep this thread as useful as possible. :good:
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
am 100% with u ......COOL :)
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Yes. I believed in Saygus.. That's cool!

Well, given that Saygus V squared as two sd card, how many of us will actually used it? I am just curious to know... 64GB of internal storage is alot to store hundreds of app.

Another thing, how many of us here actually has over a hundred app in their phone? I am one of them! :)

:):):)
[Saygus V²] s-lps3:
Saygus has been on a roll on their. Twitter account check it out ? at least we know that new back cover colors will be available, and the SanDisk 200gb is going to be compatible, the camera will be (not in those exact words but you can guess what they're saying) 4k capable, and a ship date will be announced in the coming weeks. I take it after the apple comment that shipping should start not long after the announcement. At least that what I'm reading between the lines ?
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
We should rename this thread. Here are a few ideas:

The Saygus Anxiety Club

Can you resist refunding your Saygus preorder?

Negative press is the best word of mouth. Saygus shows us how it's done.

Coax me into believing I didn't make a stupid mistake pre-ordering the saygus v2

The true followers of Saygus. Haterz and people that can't handle the anxiety don't enter.
[Saygus V²] babaAntoun:
I have no anxiety about the wait, I'm sure it's a logistical nightmare to be bringing a new superphone to the market. Even the lack of communication doesn't worry me that much.

What I do object to is that when there is communication, it's rude and condescending.

If a salesperson in a brick and mortar shop spoke to you like that, would you buy anything from them? I certainly wouldn't.

They should at the very least be respectful of all the people who have handed over almost $600 in a leap of faith and the next time there is a snide response from them to a legitimate question, I will be cancelling my order, superphone or not.

I support lots of new products and initiatives through various crowdfunding sites, but you don't get my funding or good faith by alienating me.
[Saygus V²] abunhyan:
No need for all that explaining !!!!!!

Dont want super phone just cancel ur order and find whats suite u:good:

Nothing in this life is perfect !!!! So......any misunderstanding can be corrected...and what saygus team is traying to do is that i believe :)
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Come on guys, lets talk about the phone!

I have about 324 Apps installed on my device right now, so the internal space will be eaten up very soon. :D

And the additional SD storage will be used for some movies and music which I can consume when travelling. As I prefer FLAC as audio format it needs a lot of space, because it's uncompressed, but it gives you a way better sound experience than MP3 does. ;)

Talking about WIHD I have to admit, that I haven't any productive use case for it now, but I think it can be a lot of fun, playing on a large screen. :D

But the features I am most curious about are the fractal antenna, noise cancellation, battery saving chip and the sunlight viewable screen. They sound really great, are difficult to realise and can be a very useful enhancement of the phone, if they work as expected.
[Saygus V²] babaAntoun:
If you're happy being treated like that then life is perfect for you!!

Hey, can you send me $600 and I promise to send you a unicorn and a time machine...I'll tell you when later...thanks!!
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Yes,you have got caliber.I am with you!

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Salute for you too!
[Saygus V²] renjithrc84:
Same here,,

And I have seen everybody complaining here. But as we all know, its of no use. We are here, because we were ready to take the risk. Those who have preordered ( including me) should have thought about all of this before we placed our order. Now that we have already placed our order and lets give them some more time. Even in the mail I received when i placed my order, it is mentioned that they will let us know about the shipping date in March. And there is still more than 20 days to go. Ofcourse according to Saygus, those who want to cancel their preorder should do that within 30 days. So those who want to cancel their orders can go for it without complaining.

Didn't mean to irritate anybody, just my thoughts only.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Hi Andreas, thanks for the reply. I believed both of us are in the same boat.. Same thought as you..

About the WiHD, I hope there is a cheaper version by Saygus.. Outside are selling at least a hundred.

300plus app is quite abit to handle.. Just want to know.. How many of those are games?

I think Fractal antenna is my most looking forward to because not many phones has implementation on that... I wonder how do I test the usability and reliability of the fractal antenna...

Hmmmm......
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
+1

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I have more than 100 in Note 2
[Saygus V²] BiffTirkle:
When I sent saygus a link to the forum I told them they needed more hype and news about the device. I couldn't have been the only one to suggest it. They're being more communicative which is exactly what I want.
[Saygus V²] mastewman:
Wow, in this video it appears, that it is confirmed that Saygus is working with Cyanogenmod on making a ROM! Good news at least for me... Saygus V2 Hands On The Super Smartphone Youtube 2015: http://youtu.be/axpFS3R-opA
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
I also support you renjith. Even though I am seeing majority of negative postings in this thread among a fewest optimistic ones,and on studying the various upcoming 2015 phones from the so called major companies I arrived at the conclusion that this phone is going to be a true phone,particularly after seeing the hands on and reviews at the Barcelona MNC. Hence I ordered for this phone paying 599 USD yesterday.And my order number is 4428.I think that we should give this company particularly being a start up one sufficient time because they are developing most of our long cherished needs which the so called major companies are evading.So please convert this thread to a bit constructive.

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That's indeed a news to hear.And exciting one also.
[Saygus V²] jameswxt:
Hi pnsdhrn.. I thank you for ordering the superphone. And you just only order yesterday and your order no is 4428. This is indeed a very encouraging numbers. It could mean 4428 superphones ordered so far!!! Amazing!

Plus do keep in mind that any one person can order a maximum of 10 Saygys V-Squared in one invoice. If 100 people order 10 units, its 1000 units already!

Way to go Saygus!

I am sure some retailers and investors may order separately in bulk! I do know some people who order more than 10 units!

Let's continue to discuss the wonderful features of Saygus V-Squared as we await the arrival of the superphone!

It will be soon... Hang on as we bring you the phone that will rock the smartphone industry and put other major brands into hiding (probably back to their lab to do more research on customer needs and wants).

:thumbup::thumbup:
[Saygus V²] mastewman:
Look at this, Wired says the Saygus V2 is one of 16 coolest at the 2015 Mobile World Congress... Think about all the devices that were there and to be recognized is also cool... http://www.wired.com/2015/03/best-mobile-world-congress/
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
Let's enjoy the boat ride! :D

Hasn't been an answer posted here some pages ago, where Saygus said that they will bring an affordable WIHD receiver on the market which we will be able to purchase before shipping the device?

I've only about 10 games on my phone. The rest are apps like Browser, Newsreader, Messenger, IRC- and Jabber clients and some network diagnostic tools. There are a number of apps that I need once a year, but I'm to lazy to reinstall them erverytime.... The apps for daily use are just about 15 apps, which I really need. ;)

You should notice the benefit of the fractal antenna, when you have a better signal then others have. Normally we should be able to measure this by analyzing the the signal strength as a value in dB (not only with the displayed UI bars) between two different smartphones. Additionally you should notice this feature when beeing to locations where you normally only have a weak connection or even none.

But we'll see how much this helps in reality.
[Saygus V²] esimon311:
Just tweeted @ team Saugus again with a link to our thread and the comment and view count... Maybe if they see how many people are on our thread someone might stop by from Saugus...y'all tweet @ them with a link to the thread also.....

________________

ITS OVER 9000!!
[Saygus V²] andreas5232:
I can't find your tweet anywhere, so I finally did my own one.

BTW: They are called Saygus.

See my tweet here: https://twitter.com/andreas5232/status/574218837832437760
[Saygus V²] esimon311:
Something must be amiss with my Twitter account ... I'll have to check into that... And tweet at SAYGUS again.

https://twitter.com/EricEsimon311/status/574215151122915328

________________

ITS OVER 9000!!
[Saygus V²] Charlie Brown:
Jumping to conclusions is pointless. I have not pre-ordered. That being said I am a Saygus supporter. Why?

Because they have the guts to do what most android people really want. They have the guts to take risks and go against what's trending!

• Massive storage that's expandable and removable.

• An already big battery that's removable.

• Two awesome cameras that feature image stabilization and a tactile button for taking pictures.

• Water and dust resistant

• An awesome magnesium device chassis with Kevlar and aluminum body.

• Wireless HD streaming to almost any modern display.

• Unlocked bootloader for developers and hobbyists alike.

• Usable around the globe as it's a world phone.

• Fingerprint scanner

• Two front facing speakers from a top audio designer and engineer.

You know what? If people want to go on rants and vent that's cool. But since Saygus stated March will be when they announce the shipping date, we need to give them a chance.

A chance to bring us a bad [MENTION=237736]SS[/MENTION] device that no one else has the guts to try and put together.

Yes, this for me and many android fans is our absolute dream phone! I want this to become reality.
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
So let us go together for a superphone.

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Thank you James.What we want is a creative stand.
[Saygus V²] post_break:
I snagged the preorder for $550 because as soon as I saw the specs it was a dream phone. No phone on the market touches it on specs, and it's a US company? Hell finding a 64GB internal phone these days is like playing whack a mole.

That being said their PR on Twitter has been shaky at best. They need help in that regard.

Moving forward I'm not canceling my preorder because I want the phone. It's as simple as that. No other phone on the market in the US has an 801, 64GB, and even a single SD card slot. And yet we're also getting QI and supposedly a great camera for $600.

The company can work on its PR and marketing, what it can't do is work on the phone, that part is set in stone. We were sold on the phone, now Saygus needs to step it up and sell us on them.

I'm patient. I don't mind dropping the cash and waiting, even if there are delays. I want that damned phone and sure I'll whine when there are delays but it will be like christmas when it shows up. And if it sucks? Well then I just return it. If you can't wait, don't preorder. Don't use kickstarter, don't invest in anything, don't take risks. These aren't negative things, it's smart not to take a risk, but it's not smart to take a risk when you can't handle what's involved.

That said I've been getting my roms and emulators ready.
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Just received this

March 2, 2015 10:36 am

After reading comments from mobile world congress, is shipping now not expected until June?

Thank you for contacting Saygus. We apologize for the delay in responding to your inquiry, we got a bit backlogged. There has been much excitement around the V² and we’ve been working around the clock to make sure to release the very best smartphone possible. We can hardly wait to begin shipping.

To answer your question:

We are anticipating that the phone will begin shipping in April.

However, we are finalizing our production schedule right now, and we will have the exact shipping date for your pre-order phone purchase in the coming weeks. We will keep you informed.

I hope that helps.

If you have more questions, or would like further support, please visit our “Support” page. You may also reopen this support ticket, or create a new one. Either way, we’ll be glad to help.

Thank you,
[Saygus V²] strikelight:
Editted due to info from above post
[Saygus V²] frigidazzi:
The problem with your logic is pre ordering and kick starter are not the same thing. No where did it say we were kick starting this, but that's what it feels like. I agree it's a great phone on paper. I'll save my praises for this like the camera until I see results (look at the m9. 20mp camera doesn't mean good pictures). But I'm hopeful.
[Saygus V²] post_break:
I only brought up kickstarter because of shipping delays. We didn't really kickstart this company, but we're having to deal with customer service and shipping delays similar to a kickstarter is all.
[Saygus V²] Vapour_909:
On their twitter they make references to "laser focus in V Squared".

"NEARLY HALF A TERABYTE memory for high res pics and 4K video"

Could they be dropping huge bombs right in front of us? 4K video and laser focus would be preeeetty cool.