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[Android General] mkumar12345:
X89 has a slightly slower version of the Intel Baytrail processor, Z3735D vs. the Z3736F in X90HD and X10HD. I don't think that will make a huge difference though.

For me I chose the X90HD or X10HD primarily because I prefer the 16:10 screen ratio, as that keeps the tablet narrow enough in portrait mode to be held in one hand with fingers wrapped around the body.

If you like the 4:3 ratio similar to iPads that the X89HD has then it doesn't look too bad on the surface, but I have never personally tried it. Maybe Hendrickson has tried it?
[Android General] sence:
No mate, I think X89 and X90HD has got the same processor Z3735F....Main difference is the higher screen resolution of X90HD like the X10HD ......By the way , X89HD and X89 are two different models...X89HD is the older one with lot of problems like X98 air models.....May be that one has got Z3735D

The reason why I prefer X89 over X90HD is that , its a 7.9" tab,whereas X90HD is 8.9"....I prefer a smaller sized tablet for portability....And I dont mind the aspect ratios, whether its 4:3/16:10...I just want a good dual boot tablet with 7-8" screen size with a good screen and good battery life...
[Android General] mkumar12345:
I think you are right. If you don't mind the aspect ratios then X89 is perfect. Looks like it has a smaller side bezel than x90hd so with smaller screen size it should be very portable. Cheers!
[Android General] sence:
I know, but I am eagerly waiting for a reply from someone who is using the tablet or have used it.....I would like to know its real battery life and performance...I am worried about its 5000mAh battery,its not enough 'cause of its retina display....If I couldn't find one,then I dont have any other choice but to carry my acer W4+nexus 7......Or I can compromise on the dispaly and go with the $115 X80H dual boot one....
[Android General] mkumar12345:
Flashed the Android Firmware update and Wifi stopped working

The flash itself was easy to do and it was quick and seemingly went without a hitch. As expected the tablet is set back to Chinese and all the glorious app junk from before is back, but now the Wifi absolutely won't connect. When booted to Windows everything is fine. My other android devices connect fine to the same Wifi. Something is screwed up with this firmware.

Anyone else tried this yet? Any ideas on how to fix it?
[Android General] mkumar12345:
I thoroughly checked my X90HD and I don't have any line in the middle of the screen, that I could see with screen turned on or off. I bought it from TabletMaxx who say that they thoroughly check the models after they receive them from manufacturers, before shipping. After I received my tablet, I noticed that TabletMaxx has removed the model from their store. Maybe they were receiving too many devices with faulty screen from the manufacturer?
[Android General] _gl:
It's possibly shipping damage, this is what Banggood say about the X90HD:

"Note: Due to the insufficient protection offered by the original packaging of this product, we have made the decision

to replace it with our own foam packaging. Tablet screens are susceptible to damage during shipping, after

careful consideration and testing, we believe that foam offers the best protective coverage. Not only is this

packaging highly resistant, it is also very light, which allows us to keep shipping charges down and pass those

saving on to you."
[Android General] ApteryxK:
Hey Hendrickson our kiwi friend !

I just saw the x90hd is it new ? It's exactly the x10hd but with a smaller screen ...?

I personally wait better CPU and maybe more ram to buy one of these teclast tabs as they release one each month xD, I really like your reviews and appreciate that you share with us your experience.

Edit: after searching a bit I saw that its CPU is worse, as I thought it is the older generation, that's why it's not popular.

Let's hope that a new one will be released.
[Android General] Kohe:
I could connect to Play Store.

1. Get root (I used the toolbox for X98 from here)

2. Edit /system/build.prop to

ro.product.device=grouper

ro.product.local.language=en

ro.product.locale.region=US​

3. Reboot device

grouper is Nexus 7 device name, other name might be better.
[Android General] BigBoppa:
Playstore issue is talked about in teclast forum.

a possible solution here ? (i´m still waiting for my tablet, can´t check it now...)

best seen in chrome with automatic translation.
[Android General] zooster:
Maybe using same name of x98...
[Android General] HusinSam:
I just plan to buy one, is this X10HD is free from issue?

As issue about "play store" is seem solve and connected.

And I need suggestion for me to decide to buy or not to buy :D

Thanks in advanced
[Android General] CrimsonKnight13:
Could anyone try it out with a similarly sized tablet like the Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1? It has the same screen size & resolution, though with a Exynos ARM SoC instead of an Intel SoC.

It's device name is picassowifi if anyone is willing to switch that out with grouper.

Doing so with a similar screen size and/or resolution will allow for better app compatibility in the store.

List of devices & device names with 2560x1600 screen resolution

8.4"

Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 - mondrianwifi

Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 - klimtwifi

Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 LTE - klimtlte

10"

Google Nexus 10 - manta

10.1"

- recommended device names for proper sizing of the Google Play Store

Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 - picassowifi (works! - credit to [MENTION=4117179]mkumar12345[/MENTION])

Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) - lt03wifiue

Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 3G (2014) - lt033g

ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T - tf701t

Kobo Arc 10 HD - macallan

Toshiba Excite Pro AT15LE-A - tostab12BA

10.5"

Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 - chagallwifi

Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 LTE - chagalllte

12.2"

Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 12.2 - v2wifi

Device ID lookup source: https://www.otaupdatecenter.pro/device-lookup

I'll list more as I find them. If anyone can confirm success or failure for each, that'd be great to know.
[Android General] mkumar12345:
Play store works now

I was able to fix the WiFi connection issue. Rooted the tablet and changed the build.prop file and now the Play store works as expected. Thank you Crimsonknight. Picassowifi works better than grouper. With grouper play store had a narrow window with large fonts. With picassowifi its as you would expect.

Thanks to kohe for confirming root works.
[Android General] CrimsonKnight13:
I'm glad it works as I expected. Thanks for confirming!
[Android General] Hendrickson:
Awesome, thanks given! Now we have Play Store! :)
[Android General] zooster:
Shame on teclast. It was just a misconfigured build.prop... I'd like to know personally who's supposed to develop Android there.

Since this is their poor development grade I think lollipop will never come on these tablets. And it's a miss, considering the 64bit cpu.
[Android General] CrimsonKnight13:
I wouldn't count Lollipop out of the equation. Teclast is still quite active with their product development.
[Android General] CrimsonKnight13:
The first link is pointing to another page I think.

I found this one works.

http://techtablets.com/teclast-x10hd-3g/downloads/

Nevermind, it works for me now for some odd reason. Chrome for Android had an issue while Chrome for Win64 works fine.
[Android General] nyersg:
Windows only

Hi everyone,

Is there a way to make it (or any other dual boot chinese tablet for that matter) a Windows only device? Or at least make all of the storage visible to Windows?
[Android General] Rita Muster:
Is the 3G connection really so slow ?
[Android General] Hendrickson:
Seems to have issues with direct downloads, I'll try and fix that.

Seems to be max 2 Mbps for me, but when I pop the same sim in my Air 3G I get 6-10mbps from where I am.
[Android General] Kohe:
Yes, It's easy.

I found settings for windows only in X10HD WINPE images.

Make installer USB sticks and edit WINPE/Scripts/Main.cmd

Change line 44:

diskpart /s %InstallPath%\wimpart_dual.txt

to

diskpart /s %InstallPath%\wimpart.txt

I've already tested it.

C drive has 49.1GB free of 53.2GB.
[Android General] CrimsonKnight13:
Does the Android installer allow for the full install as well?
[Android General] Kohe:
Yes, we need to modify partition.tbl like below

add -b 7045160 -s 29360078 -t data -u 80868086-8086-8086-8086-000000000008 -l data -T 0 -P 0 /dev/block/mmcblk0

to

add -b 7045160 -s $calc($lba_end-16384) -t data -u 80868086-8086-8086-8086-000000000008 -l data -T 0 -P 0 /dev/block/mmcblk0
[Android General] smartchip:
I'd just like to commend [MENTION=1167021]Hendrickson[/MENTION] on the awesome www.techtablets.com! Looking forward to more reviews and news from that exciting corner of the tech world.

Have you gotten your hands on the Onda v919 3G yet? I'm especially excited to see if the dual boot switching is working well and the speed of the eMMC.
[Android General] CrimsonKnight13:
Nice work! I'll probably stay with dual OSes for a while but I'm glad that I have options available to me.
[Android General] BigBoppa:
Originally Posted by Hendrickson

Hopefully we can use this tutorial for the X10 also :good:
[Android General] _gl:
You can actually make calls right, but only from Android? No way in Windows? (not that I really care, but in an emergency ...).
[Android General] Hendrickson:
Thanks, it's a huge work in progress at the moment and a hobby. The Onda V919 dual boot was meant to go out today, but I have no DHL tracking number from the seller, been delay after delay from Onda. :(

I will work, more or less the same but just with X10HD roms :D
[Android General] Altered Carbon:
Thank you very much, Hendrickson, for all the videos and posts. You've really helped a lot with my tablet shopping, going to be grabbing one for myself and another for a family member. Just have to decide where to get them from.

One question I've still got, though, and can't seem to find anything official about, is the card capacity. Does it say in the manual what the maximum card size is?
[Android General] Hendrickson:
They say 64GB, and my 64GB works. But 128GB cards will work in Windows for sure.

My X98 Air 3G how to super tutorial is finally up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLjayeQJg4Q It also applies to the X10HD, just using the X10HD roms and later custom partitions.
[Android General] CrimsonKnight13:
Yeah, only Android. Windows 8.1 has no phone support built-in. I think that you'd need the Windows Phone OS to make that happen.

----------------------

Last night my X10HD arrived. It works great in both OSes, which I love a ton. Small complaint about the creaking sound, which points to the fact that it could be built a bit better. My battery in Android was sitting at 7%, so I left it on all night & through the day. I'll test out my Quick Charge 2.0 charger from Aukey to see how fast it will charge up (I know the X10HD doesn't have a Qualcomm SoC but the charger does charge fast for any device). The performance is great, so no complaints about that. I still need to test video playback, 2D gaming & 3D gaming. Overall, I'm quite pleased with my purchase.
[Android General] zooster:
This software should do the trick: www.phonedialerpro.com
[Android General] freshmobile.net:
crazy choosing

I'm becoming crazy choosing which one tablet could be good for me, x98, x10 or x16

x98 air and 2 , x10 and x16 r too good tablets..... should wait For intel m core tablet 40% faster than current
[Android General] CrimsonKnight13:
Strange... I can't get OTG or fastboot mode to work. Devices aren't recognized by the tablet with 2 separate cables for OTG. Fastboot mode won't work since Windows doesn't recognize the device while plugged into any port. MTP does work though, so that's a plus at least.
[Android General] heikkiap:
I got mine yesterday evening.

Took a while to apply Google Play fix, since I am not so familar with ADB stuff, but I managed after googling a bit.

-battery bug, 7% , one cell only (charged full and now recharging, watching 007 Skyfall bluray over wifi :), will see what happens after next full rechage from empty ) Now from full to 9% in 1:51 hours, so it will stuck to 7% for some hours, I guess. Recharge rate 7.848 mW

-played RR3 for 90 mins, no problems

-keyboard case attachment is poor, I try to make some fix with magnets after my holiday trip

Having flu now and brains are not working too well, so not much testing expected.
[Android General] Altered Carbon:
Thats perfect, ty! I was hoping for at least 64GB so I could pop my video camera's cards in. Thanks for the link, I will be following that tutorial (hopefully) shortly, ordered mine tonight. :D
[Android General] dabotsonline:
How do you find the keyboard itself?
[Android General] heikkiap:
I don't type to well with 10 fingers, so no comment about "real typists" needs or feelings.

-Missing some features of real PC keybard

-Touchpad logic is not fully understood (function of "mouse keys" together with pointer, dragging as an example), it works, but not always well. I guess it is my problem, not the keyboard's.

-Little bit too plastic feeling, Logitech Ultrathin Folio for iPad Air (fits for X98 with small modifications) has better quality. But it is not bad, however.

For me, it is a good one, as the virtual kb hides the screen. I would like scandic keys too (ÖÄÅ), but I can use this (ordered stickers, since using Finnish kb setup those letters are in normal place, so stickers will solve it, http://www.ebay.com/itm/230525210100)

But this attach system may suck, you can drop your tablet easily. As I mentioned, I try to make a fix with magnets, needs to open the tablet, too. With X89 it would succeed with small modification, making a bit more space for thin steel wire, but in X10HD I am not sure.
[Android General] CrimsonKnight13:
The battery definitely works really weird, even after a full discharge & recharge. The keyboard case really need improvement.

I recommend that anyone format their Micro SD cards to NTFS since Android & Windows both can read it. exFAT is not recommended since Teclast didn't build it into the kernel. Paragon's exFAT app only supports businesses now, so there's nothing that can be done to fix that at the moment. ext4 could be used if you have ext drivers for Windows.

I think I'll have to ask OKQI about the OTG & fastboot issues. If they don't, at least they can relay them to Teclast.

I tested out Xposed Framework but it puts the tablet in a boot loop when accessing Android. I had to install Paragon EXT for Windows 2.0 & edit the files through Windows. Please be aware of this issue since I wasn't able to utilize fastboot to correct it.
[Android General] Hendrickson:
Core M tablets will also be very expensive, Cube just released the i7 and its around $650 ....

Welcome to the X10HD 3G Club!! This battery issue is really annoying and I don't understand how when I do a full discharge and recharge it will read correctly, then after using Android and charging again it reverts to 14,000mwh again in Battery Bar Pro. Might need a bios update to fix it?

Thanks for the info, I asked OKQI who sold me the X10HD and Sherry replied that there is an OTA update. But when I check it's that Chinese message saying No updates available.

I can enter fastboot, (Entering DnX mode it says) Just hold down power + vol up and down+, once the Teclast logo appears release the power button but keep holding the vol+/- buttons.
[Android General] heikkiap:
Been used to it :) . Converted my C6J6 to windows, no problems with battery. Later installed dual boot BIOS. With the same Win10 installation, battery without problems in Win only BIOS and big problems in dual boot BIOS. And when I tried to flash back to win only, I bricked my C6J6 :( .

We will see what happens.

Edit:

and yes, now as the tablet is fully loaded, Battery Bar shows 41 694 mAh

HWInfo shows the same capacity and current Capacity is 41276 mWh and curent Voltage is 4.224 V

SubEdit:

and yes after visiting Android, only capacity of 14 432 mWh is reported as max in Windows

Edit2:

Tablet has magnets, but somehow the keyboard counterparts seem to be polarized wrong, even if it does not have magnets in it ???
[Android General] CrimsonKnight13:
An OTA would be nice. Do BIOS updates come through OTA as well?

I was able to get to the DnX mode screen but no matter what port (USB 2.0 & 3.0) or PC (desktop & netbook), I can't seem to get Windows 8.1 x64 to recognize it properly. It shows up as an unknown USB device. :( I really hope that will be fixed over OTA, too. I used to fix this issue by moving any Android device to USB 3.0 & everything would work. This tablet has made it difficult to troubleshoot & recovery quickly. I still love using it, though I hope that I don't have any castastrophic failures.
[Android General] Hendrickson:
I think it's Android that is killing the battery meter, thing is it doesn't seem to happen on my X98 Air 3G. Also 41276 mWh this is much higher than 8000mAH right. Is the battery larger than we thought? So far I have managed almost 6 hours in Windows.
[Android General] _gl:
One is in watts (= volts x amps), the other in amps.

So 41276 mWh / 4.224V = 9772 mAh

Or if the full voltage should be 5V (I guess?):

41276 mWh / 5V = 8,255.2 mAh

Ballpark right?

---------- Post added at 08:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:13 PM ----------

Try disconnecting any other USB device first. And/or connecting straight to a motherboard port, not a hub (potential insufficient bus power issue). I have both issues sometimes.

If still no joy, try uninstalling the not-recognized device from Device Manager (right-click -> uninstall), then try connecting again (and/or on another port). Sometimes the registration goes bad somehow and will only work again if you do that.
[Android General] CrimsonKnight13:
Thanks. I only connect to motherboard ports for troubleshooting, so I'll have to attempt to try uninstall the trouble device & see if I get anywhere. I know that other devices aren't at fault since I attempted the fastboot mode on a netbook with no external devices connected.
[Android General] Hendrickson:
I've created a video tut on how to fix the play store for anyone that might have issues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7mHGOmOPTc (We were all new to this once! :) )
[Android General] OMGitsShan:
OKQI have updated the keyboard listing to say there is a new version that has left and right keys below the touchpad. They have made a point of circling this in a new image in the keyboard only listing which you can find as a link in the beginning of the description of the X10HD product listing. I'm not sure if this means that the keyboard that was originally sent out with first orders is different to this new keyboard?
[Android General] Kohe:
As far as I know, there are 3 keyboard types, without touch pad button, with buttons and mine.

Mine is the same as this:

No Insert/Delete keys. It sucks.

We should ask a shop about keyboard layout before order.
[Android General] _gl:
I've tried asking several times on AliExpress, including generic keyboard-case sellers. I couldn't get one to even send a photo of their current stock. The keyboard case seller had pictures from two completely different keyboards, when I pointed this out he said 'they're the same functionally' (they're not, different special key layout, different key shapes). When I pointed that out, he stopped replying altogether.

The idea seems to be 'it's a keyboard, move on'. Erm no.
[Android General] CrimsonKnight13:
Has anyone had issues with video playback (won't stream at all or give the option to allow downloading of movies) on Google Play & Flixster (Ultraviolet-based)? Netflix & local video work though.
[Android General] cosimopepe:
Good evening today i received this new tablet X10HD 3 G included the KEYBOARD ! When i have opened it go wit Android and i check many video to see how to pass to Windows !

Now with Windows i have put the tablet in to the keyboard dock but this keyboard not working !

Same pipol help me and explain how work this keyboard before i send to the vendor ?

Grazie
[Android General] heikkiap:
Tried to apply update (button on bottom left). Downloaded files and restarted to update. Error about writing biuld.prop (I had modified as instructed in first page).

I copied back the original build.prop (push etc. and mount, busybox, remount) and tried again to update. Now it succeeded, and Google Play works without modifying the build.prop anymore.

Looks like the only difference with the original build.prop and the one after this update is the case of the "ro.product.device=x10hd_3g_m6k6" as in the old one it was mostly in capital letters "X10hd_3G (M6K6)", and the pharentheses.

Also "ro.build.display.id=V1.07_20150113" is showing newer date.

In other XDA topic it was noted that device should be in lower case letters.

Other updates came, at least about 113 applications were told to be upgraded (not sure how it was told exactly, but the process that takes place after updating the system)
[Android General] Hendrickson:
I heard that the PiPo W3 and other brands use the same keyboard attach system, not sure if its true.

But this Pipo W3 keyboard has a Delete key.
[Android General] Kohe:
I bought a new keyboard from OKQI. I think it is the same as for PIPO W3.

Both of my keyboards are little bigger than X10HD by 1 cm height, so they don't fit when folding.
[Android General] ar2rc:
@up

keypad on the right is the new x10 ?
[Android General] CrimsonKnight13:
I applied the update as well, which fixes some stuff but Android is still horrible with CPU throttling. Most of the time it sits at the max frequency, which is why the battery burns down faster than in Windows. My tablet still doesn't want to work correctly with DnX & Windows on another system. OTG is jacked up as well, so the OTA didn't fix that.

When you see that applications are being "upgraded" after an update, it means that the Dalvik or ART cache has been cleared. Android has to regenerate the cache from all of the installed applications & possibly update the application database to a newer version (very rare unless you're upgrading major versions (4.x to 5.x).
[Android General] heikkiap:
That I meant, since I am not so familiar with Android, I put some careful wording there :)

As I will tomorrow leave for two weeks holiday, I will leave the tablet as it is to avoid any trouble on the ride. When I come back, I will check the "tuning up" things more carefully.

But looks like the build.prop has been fixed for Play Store.
[Android General] _gl:
I wouldn't buy either keyboard because of the special key layout. For example, Page Up and Down are used a lot with text - putting them on the top row makes no sense. Much more intuitive to put them as FN functions on the up/down arrow keys for example (I've seen generic keyboard-case ones do that).

On Windows you can actually completely reconfigure the keyboard layout, there's a utility for that (I can dig it out if someone's interested). But then you have to remember everything, or re-label the keys somehow.
[Android General] CrimsonKnight13:
I'm not too fond of the one I got, which has no DEL key. It'll work for gaming since I'm fine with changing bindings around but I'm not impressed with the touchpad. I did buy a bluetooth mouse, so won't need to use the touchpad. I guess I just have to cut my loss on it since I already authorized the payment to OKQI. I should've paid more attention since I stupidly assumed that the keyboard was the one I thought was in the photos. :silly:
[Android General] _gl:
Yeah you gotta be so careful with these sellers. Mine (QH-Brand store on Ali) told me they had the X90HD in stock ready to ship straight away, but do I want the optional keyboard? When I said no, they then didn't ship for 12 days (and only after much chasing did they even acknowledge they had stock after all). And now nearly 2 months later it never arrived, plus they keep trying to get me to cancel my dispute (fat chance).

Not showing right pictures or descriptions is widespread on Ali, eg. I recently bought a 'CE certified PSU', a non-certfied PSU shows up that doesn't match the picture either - and about 5 different Ali sellers (probably all the same behind the scenes) all had the same listing, and all confirmed it's wrong (sigh).