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[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Why do you say this ??

Go check their tweets. It is so clear that they will not ship this May 22nd. They are clearly saying that the smartphone business is very difficult and not easy as shown by Apple and Samsung (A clue paving for another delay). They also mentioned that they have built more than 200 phones which is a very small number and unable to supply these orders in the promised date.

They were totally unable to answer any question related to unboxing or showing functioning unit.

What about in ten days they will change the brand, logo, and graphics. While 8 days left for their promised shipping date.

I'm just realistic and not dreamer
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
They have designed and built 200 unique TYPES of phones/smartphone. They did not mean how many V2 devices they've built so far.
[Saygus V²] alexanseris:
100% agree with you.

There are many users here worship Saygus for nothing. I also don't rule out that the rude Tweet guy is among us. It is obvious Saygus flops and don't know what to do.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
How do you know that the logo/branding/graphics hasn't already been applied to phone

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Not having faith in the little guy, is a bit depressing. We need businesses like this in the USA to work.
[Saygus V²] alexanseris:
This is the original tweet : "combined with our team, Saygus has built more than 200 cell phones and high-end smartphones so we do get a bit"

How did you get that "they designed" ???

They clearly stated they have built and built only ..... Just watch the truth with out creating your own modifications
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
I'm already supporting them by paying $550 along more than 3 months, and I wanna get what I paid for, not only faked promises. In addition, I have the right to search and discover what they are going to do. So doing all these does not make me a troll.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Eh, they mentioned their achievements in a previous post somewhere I can't find it though. They stated before they all have many many years of experience at developing phones. I want to say I heard in one of their videos too... I'm not on computer to look up references.
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
It's getting weird when members of a technology forum don't know how Twitter works (you DO know that messages can continue across tweets?)

"Combined with our team, Saygus has built more than 200 cell phones and high-end smartphones so we do get a bit miffed when the word “vapourware” comes up. Hey, we’re human. By the way, our combined team has built those phones for Sony, HTC, Motorola and Asus, among others. So don’t take it personal, just HANG IN THERE FOR THE PRIZE!"
[Saygus V²] shekers:
Good job for taking that line out of context...if you read the additional tweets, this is what the Saygus twitter account said.

"Combined with our team, Saygus has built more than 200 cell phones and high-end smartphones so we do get a bit miffed when the word "vaporware" comes up. Hey, we're human. By the way, our combined team has built those phones for Sony, HTC, Motorola and Asus, among others. So dont take it personal, just HANG IN THERE FOR THE PRIZE!"

Do you actually think those people physically "built" the phones for Sony, HTC, Motorolla, and Asus...come on...
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
All you're doing is creating assumptions that have no basis while also 'flaming' the fire of most peoples' anxiety here on this thread . They said May 22nd, and has been confirmed more than a dozen different times.
[Saygus V²] tipocool:
If you take the time to read the tweets, it's pretty obvious that they are not referencing the V2 when they say they have built more than 200 phones.

"......Saygus has built more than 200 cell phones and high-end smartphones........our combined team has built those phones for Sony, HTC, Motorola, and Asus, among others........."
[Saygus V²] alexanseris:
It's getting weird when a member of technology forum believe that members of a tiny unknown company with a history of vaporware did design and build hundreds of phones for Sony, HTC, and Motorola.

It's getting weird when a member of technology forum do think that Saygus will ship V2 after a week, and they still don't have a single functioning unit on board, and keep believing them
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
We're weird. Join the club if you dare :).
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
I think that Saygus has been COOPERATING with those companies. Saying they have "built" those phones might be overstatement for the sake of propaganda. But their point is clear to me- they are not without experience.

Andreas has released new, updated spec sheet. I have noticed Harman Kardon microphones that I don't remember seeing before. Sounds sweet.

Also, it has been spoken about Saygus is supporting glonass signal. Not mentioned in that sheet. Does regular GPS module work with glonass frequency bands? All of them? L1, L2 and L3?
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Loool. I also started to believe that Saygus engineers designed Galaxy S6 and they are ready to design and built the next iPhone.

''Justification worse than the original act"
[Saygus V²] alexanseris:
Whatever!

I love you all
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
1 of 2 things will happen. Either you're right, or we're right. But not going to know till the time comes. :D
[Saygus V²] pnsdhrn:
Dear Zack,it is better for you to not answer these irrelevancies.At least you get peace of mind.Just wait for the phone.
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
I think some people are too excited ! May 22nd, it will be nuclear war on this forum !!

Please, keep calm and don't forget it's not easy to worldwide ship a new product !
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
I have a friend

that eats nuks
[Saygus V²] Jkteam:
They did a mention of that a while ago. I believe it's twitter. They were not talking about saygus devices. They built /developed /worked one /whatever word you want to use when working with other compagnies. This is the 200 they are referring to. They said that few weeks ago
[Saygus V²] azumandias:
My Stories

I have to admit to a guilty secret: I have been lurking this thread simply to get my daily soap opera fix. I have rarely been disappointed :laugh:

Seriously though, I am posting now to draw attention to the somewhat ironic XDA Portal Post that has been appearing on the side of this thread since yesterday:

Unfinished Phones, Excuses and The Industry’s Course

Saygus isn't the only one that has a hard time delivering a phone to the exacting standards of XDA members.

If I had heard of the V² before forking out the funds for a Note 4 Dev Ed I would be posting here more often. That said, please continue the drama so I don't have to find my stories elsewhere. :good: For those optimists on the thread who are keeping the hope alive, I am right there with you. I am looking forward to my Note 4 replacement in a year or two, the V3.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
when i hear the talk about new logo i immediately thought bankruptcy. and then i think if this is the case saygus probably owes no one a thing. oh well such are the thoughts of someone with too much time on their hands.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
Saygus owes all the Pre-Order customers $550~$599 if they don't deliver a phone. It's that simple. They said 5.22 for shipping to start. If they don't the end user can request a refund or wait longer. If Saygus doesn't deliver on time, refunds are requested and they don't return people's money, well then that's another story.

I'm optimistically looking forward to next Friday to hear more news on one of this year's coolest cell phones to hit the market with the delivery instructions to my front door. Their communication has been bleak to say the least, but at least they have communicated some form of language to us. I respect the fact they have trade secrets they are obviously trying to protect right now and with the possibility of a major vendor buying/branding them out, they probably have to keep a tighter lip on their proprietary information as to not spoil their agreements with, what I am guessing, is a major partner that will be either buying the rights to the phone, a percentage (>50%) share of the phone or some other form of a business agreement Saygus has made with a large vendor that requires them to go into hiding like they have. I'm sure they have all sorts of deals, agreements and confidentiality clauses with various vendors of not only the main components within the device but for future stake(share)holders in their product.

I doubt they are selling off the Saygus name, probably just this one product. I'm sure if this goes well for them over the next few months, you'll see Saygus grow, create more development capability and likely output some pretty successful devices that'll leave the Big Names in the Industry wondering how to do the same. If Saygus has patented their proprietary components successfully, they would be free to make all sorts of deals with the big players and collect royalties for years to come. They're in business, they're here to make money. They're not going to sell the farm off unless the deal is too sweet to refuse and they're likely not going to distribute confidential proprietary information to a public forum to appease 8,000-11,000 pre-order customers and the many outside vendors that are watching what is going to transpire in the coming weeks. They simply have too much to lose.

I do agree though, their PR, communications, product demos on their equipment is pretty piss poor though....total amateurs...they should just stick with phones or what ever else it is they make.

7 more days!
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
You obviously do not understand bankruptcy
[Saygus V²] t3chfan:
History repeating itself?

Hi all, me again here with the raincloud that follows me around.

If anyone has a little time, please read this article - https://medium.com/@stevekreyos/the-rise-and-fall-of-kreyos-new-ac4e2d847964

Although there are a lot of differences, smartwatch/smartphone, crowdsourced/preordered etc there are always parallels that can be drawn in terms of having an idea that generated lots of interest, going into the arrangement with the best will, delays being introduced, lack of updates to customers etc.

Dependent on your viewpoint you can either be sympathetic with the guys at Kreyos and their best intentions going wrong, or you can be gobsmacked at their naivety and appalled at the rough deal their customers got.

It is fair to say that at this late stage there is a huge vacuum of uncertainty which Saygus themselves have created with a lack of customer engagement and the fact that there is no 'proof' that this phone exists.

This will go one of 5 ways. We will either get the V2 (on time or late) as promised which is what we all want, we will get (on time or late) a version of the V2 which does not do what it says on the tin, or we will get nothing.

So come on people, as we're all here filling this forum up with idle speculation, put your flags in the relevant camp.

a) It's on time, and as awesome as advertised.

b) It's late, but that's ok because it's still as awesome as I knew it would be.

c) It's on time, but something's not quite right.

d) It's late, and it's not doing what they said it would.

e) What do you mean there is no phone!?! :crying:

I hate to be the pessimist, and I assure you all that I want nothing more than for this venture to succeed, but I have to say I'm in camp d

Let's keep score, and see everyone's true colours! And people, this is just a bit of fun so please don't be too offended (you know who you are!)
[Saygus V²] redeyss:
D, definitely.

Sorry all, I still hope to own one, but only one that's working as advertised.
[Saygus V²] NexVision:
What about F:

We had a phone but we sold the company now everyone can wait for the rebranding and design changes which can take 6-8 months.
[Saygus V²] strikelight:
Changing the subject a bit..

I logged into my account on saygus' website today and checked my order details. It seems that it didn't save the carrier and location that I will use the phone when I placed my order:

Country where you will use the V²?:

City where you will use the V²?:

Your Cellular Carrier?:

Anyone else blank there too? Reason I ask, I just want to make sure the antenna gets "optimized" for my carrier, should the phone ever actually ship of course.
[Saygus V²] NexVision:
I am pretty sure those questions are purely for polling as to try to provide leverage of interest to carriers.
[Saygus V²] strikelight:
Hm, I could swear I remember them saying they were using that information to tune the antenna.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
My info has been removed also. I looked back on my original receipt from 2.7.15 and it has the information I listed contained within the receipt. Not sure why they removed the information from our order on their servers now?

I recall the same; optimization for the antenna to be tuned to the cellular service provider. Perhaps that was just a line?
[Saygus V²] field893:
Hello,Sir , all the data are there talking in "My Account " on the right you have a view yellow , press and have all the information for order details;for me is ok
[Saygus V²] strikelight:
Yes, that is where I copied the lines I pasted from. That information is blank there for me.

Checked my email order details as well, and it was provided there too. Hope we aren't losing out on this "optimization" now.
[Saygus V²] NexVision:
Maybe preload the APN info. However it should not matter which carrier it is for it either has the frequencies or it doesn't. Since the questions were optional blocks I highly doubt any configuration will be based on that. I mean come on they are still trying to make the phone work period. You think they have the time to customize it for each order. I would say they are scrambling to attempt to meet there shipping deadline.

Which I really really hope I am wrong about because I want to get out of my iPhone and back into Android. However I truly think a hoodwink is coming.
[Saygus V²] dkryder:
back when they were first engaged in the snow job, oh, i mean.. taking orders they said they could tweak the antenna on your phone to your carrier.
[Saygus V²] NexVision:
They also had said a couple years ago they where shipping the V1 and then in February they where shipping the V2 here we are in middle of May and still no finalized phone has even been seen.
[Saygus V²] theleftykid:
If Saygus is ready for the phone they built. Then why still now we are not getting any email on how much we need to pay for the shipping. Not even on their website. They could have sorted out early on whos getting the device first in accordance to order. The old order number might not be followed but by those who pay the shipping fee first which is BS.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Deja vu?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/saygus-vphone-finally-wins-approval-from-verizon-not-so-high-en/.

With no sign of FCC approval. No mention of major carrier partnership and a little more then a week to go...

The excitement builds:laugh:
[Saygus V²] NexVision:
I'm 3 yrs older than you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Saygus V²] Jkteam:
i am going for c.

i think some phones will be shipped on may 22th. it will do everything as they said but will have bugs. hopefully they will be able to correct them with updates. since they dont take orders anymore i hope they will focus on those bugs fixing

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Mine is not there also (cant see it) but Saygus have it somewhere since I contacted them recently to change the carrier
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
If V2 is vaporware, why did they stop accepting orders ?
[Saygus V²] porkandbeans:
Well...despite ongoing concerns regarding the release of the Saygus V2, I'd like to say the following: I still believe.
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
As Spongebob would say, "two years later. "
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Who is this Spongebob? Is Spongebob one of the Saygus CS?
[Saygus V²] halkhali83:
Thank you for being so awesome Mr. Tony
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
The way I see it? If they don't provide, there are other options out there. I think G4 is my backup plan. But this no way constitutes my lack of faith in Saygus. :)
[Saygus V²] kevin6876:
Your link ^^ indicates the article of Verizon's approval was written in summer 2011, "two years later" after the V-Phone was introduced.

C'mon, you don't know who Spongebob is, lives in a pineapple, under the sea? Sometimes I think some of Saygus' CS's are as ridiculous as Spongebob.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpongeBob_SquarePants_(character)#/media/File:Spongebob-squarepants.png
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I assumed he was being sarcastic.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Si.. and they had FCC approval :cool:
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
Your real number?

Ever wonder what your real number is? Like I'm 2200 something, but I'd love to know how many of those in front of me cancelled.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I'm thinking they have FCC approval under a pseudonym like the new branding they're talking about. I did a deep FCC search for any recent activity with radios like what the V2 has- because the 60ghz wihd is pretty unique to this phone. Can't find anything. But I wonder if they needed FCC approval before even getting their prototypes? I'd suspect they would. I'm not familiar with the legislation on that.
[Saygus V²] kensayers:
Alternative pocket cover for Saygus

Just a quick note. I purchased a pocket for my Nexus 4 on Etsy and asked the maker if she could make one for the Saygus. She said "just order another model and send me the dimensions of the phone and I'll make one to fit." The model I bought is this
[Saygus V²] sonwon:
What about a Samsung Galaxy S5 Plus, it has a 805 processor and improved radio?
[Saygus V²] MadBob:
Here's hoping they are removing these details as they get them ready to ship ;)
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
improved radio? care to elaborate? I live and travel in low cellular areas and the S5 to me doesn't have a great radio.
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
these details are removed since more one month ago for me.
[Saygus V²] Jimmy_Neutron:
I asked a similar question via a ticket some time ago now:

"Hi Saygus Team

When I pre-ordered my V², I completed a survey of sorts which requested details of my mobile phone service provider in Australia in order for you to tune antennas correctly.

I wanted to know if I change my current Australian mobile service provider (Optus) to Telstra, if there would be any service degradation, or if tuning to all Australian mobile frequencies would be carried out?

Regards

Jimmy_Neutron"

The answer was as follows:

"Hi Jimmy_Neutron,

Thank you for contacting Saygus. We apologize for the delay in responding to your inquiry, we got a bit backlogged. There has been much excitement around the V² and we’ve been working around the clock to make sure to release the very best smartphone possible. We can hardly wait to begin shipping.

To answer your question:

*** Here are the cellular band the V² supports:

The V² will work on all the carrier networks in the world.

GSM: Quad band(850/900/1800/1900MHz)

CDMA: 850/1900MHz

UMTS: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8

LTE: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 40

Since the phone is unlocked, it is compatible with any mobile service provider.

We didn’t conduct that survey in order to tune antennas correctly, but just to make sure everything is running smoothly.

I hope that helps.

If you have more questions, or would like further support, please visit our “Support” page. You may also reopen this support ticket, or create a new one. Either way, we’ll be glad to help.

Thank you,

The Saygus Team"
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
I have seen that it was for fractal antenna tuning also. this makes no sense?
[Saygus V²] NexVision:
So basically they wanted to verify the frequencies being used by the carriers.
[Saygus V²] PXL42:
3D screen on V² !?
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
I'm glad the twitter activity had died down a bit. The impatient people are really making humans look bad. And I am feeling sympathetic for the handler who has to read the same comments, phrased different times.
[Saygus V²] Jkteam:
[QRCODE][/QRCODE]

As long as what they promised is there they can add stuff
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
Phoenix’s biggest attraction is its auto-stereoscopic hardware technology that frees viewers from the hassle of putting on those antiquated viewing glasses. By offering something called a Parallax Barrier, a screen overlay piece that adds more vitality and superior depth to any 3D experience, we provide our customers with the effortless opportunity to instantly redesign their visual experience in the most superlative way possible. See… We told you we knew how to tell the whole story.

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source : http://www.phoenix-3d.com/
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
Where'd all this 3D talk start? This is the first I'm hearing of this.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
ps. that website is badly made. Strange
[Saygus V²] JabbaMac:
They've always mentioned 3D sound in the specs. I bet (hope) Chat was confused.
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
I've thought long and hard about S5, I'm not interested.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
only time will tell... 7 days to go ppl ;)
[Saygus V²] rammjet:
This issue of a 3D screen came from a document that "Nyi Nyi Aung" posted on FaceBook. He had been mining Google for any info and found this document from apparently a couple of months ago.

http://www18.zippyshare.com/v/j7v9xpaw/file.html
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
It also came from here.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
that share is full of spam.this should be better http://www.virtualpressoffice.com/J...ContentId=1000000035606&source=sd&showId=3667
[Saygus V²] Boom515:
I asked support of the v2 had a 3D screen and he replied "yes 3D is supported" when I asked about pre-order phones coming with the new logo or the original he replied "all options will be provided at the time of shipping information"
[Saygus V²] kenosis:
Thank you for sharing. It's me, Nyi Nyi Aung, from Facebook.
[Saygus V²] strikelight:
Interesting.. I decided to read up on the battery saving feature given the technology used in that document.. ( http://www.quicklogic.com/platforms/visual-and-display/al3vx/ )

It says it can save 25% battery life on average, from my understanding. I wonder where saygus is getting the extra 25% on their numbers.
[Saygus V²] Eagle1337:
I really hope that it doesn't get a 3d screen.
[Saygus V²] alpha-niner64:
I hope it is an option for those who want it and leaving the rest of us out. Options are good right?
[Saygus V²] Zack.TheDark:
Id like 3d. I'm a VR nut.
[Saygus V²] waterplanet:
'

In this page they state that "QickLogic’s Display Power Optimizer (DPO) technology can extend system battery life, in some cases by as much as 50%, without negatively affecting the user experience.":

http://www.quicklogic.com/technologies/visual-and-display/dpo/

'

That's probably where the 50% is taken from. It seems to me like the 50% is more like a theoretical maximum saving that can be achieved in some cases.
[Saygus V²] sonwon:
The S5+ has higher LTE speeds.
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
where do we see the LTE speeds of our beloved V2
[Saygus V²] possibilis:
new twitter post about shipping:

"@MilesFromAus We need to verify that we have your correct email address.Please open a ticket and give us your email address and order number"
[Saygus V²] Freaky Beanie:
Check out [MENTION=240619]miles[/MENTION]FromAus's Tweet: https://twitter.com/MilesFromAus/status/598985066581200896?s=09

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It has nothing to do with shipping.
[Saygus V²] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Ther's no member on XDA w/ the UN MilesFromAus

Your "mention" are going ... nowhere :silly: