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[ZenFone 2 General] Overandout:
What a mess they are making of this!

The advert shows a 4GB / 32GB / 2.3Ghz phone for 299€. But when you go to the Darty page there is no phone at 2.3Ghz even listed, and the 299€ is clearly the 1.8Ghz.

Surely that's false advertising?
[ZenFone 2 General] panthera1:
Now asus shop france are saying they are 2.3 but they all seem to be sold out.
[ZenFone 2 General] Overandout:
Both of these links are from Asus France website:

The Technical specs of the phone on the main site are here:

http://www.asus.com/fr/Phones/ZenFone_2_ZE551ML/specifications/

Quote: "Intel® Atom™ Quad Core Z3560 (1.8GHz), PowerVR G6430, with OpenGL 3.0 support"

But if you go to the Asus shop:

http://eshop.asus.com/fr-FR/zenfone-2-ze551ml-4gb-32gb-hdd-argent-eur-fr-fr-90az00a5-m00340.html

Quote: "Vitesse effrénée avec 4 Go de RAM et un processeur Intel® Atom™ de 2,3 GHz"

Utter madness. :eek:
[ZenFone 2 General] spyblaster91:
Does anyone have address of an ASUS local shop in Guangzhou, China? my friend is gonna be there for 1 or 2 days.
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
i think that this picture clarifies lot of things

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http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/0...rrives-in-europe-with-prices-starting-at-193/
[ZenFone 2 General] PsyCLown89:
So are there any places other than eBay where we can purchase the 4GB RAM version of the ZE551ML ZenFone 2 and have it shipped internationally (to South Africa for me in this case)?

Soo eager to get this phone! Dammit, why are Asus making it such a mission and not releasing it locally in my country? Orange are taking forever to bring it in as well and might not even be able to!

SIGH!
[ZenFone 2 General] dar_zen:
what am i seeing now? in France you can only buy the ZE551Ml with 4gb ram? where is the 2gb ram model? they want 250 euros for the 720p model?

ZE551ML (5.5″, 1080p display, 4GB RAM,

ZE550ML (5.5″, 720p display, 2GB RAM,

is this a joke or what? from januar 199$ 1080p to march 250 euros for the 720p?
[ZenFone 2 General] radier:
No one ever said that 1080p was 199$.
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
yeah,and from 299 for the 4gb ,up to 349...in april 6 will launch in italy.lets see what they will say there
[ZenFone 2 General] beastofexmoor:
All the reports out of CES in January stated the Asus employees were telling everyone that the sub-$200 USD model would be 1080P. Whether they were correct or not remains to be seen since the phone hasn't been released in the US. Things in Europe are typically much more expensive then the US. Just look up the price of some other phones in the US compared to the EU. Galaxy S6 goes for $680 off contract in the US, but I'm seeing it going for $800 in europe (once you convert Euros to dollars).
[ZenFone 2 General] dar_zen:
the site eshop.asus has the best model for 300 euros. its not official from asus . could there be any problem ?

''Your product will be sent no later than 04/21/2015.''
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
the french eshop?
[ZenFone 2 General] Overandout:
Yes, it clarifies that the marketing department doesn't know what the technical department is putting as the phones's specs on the company website!!:D

It is quite likely that you will get a 2.3GHz processor in your FRench supllied 551ML, but if you only get a 1.8GHz processor, Asus will just tell you to look at the technical specs on their webpage.....

I will only believe that the French 551ML for 299€ is a 2.3 GHz processor when someone on here receives one and confirms it.
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
in the same post i posted a link from todays presentation in france.according to that and the picture we are talking for 2.3 ghz intel atom z55380 and 4 gb of ram.but i agre with you.its so confusing.asus messed up things very much...waiting for the itallians in 6 days...
[ZenFone 2 General] Overandout:
The Asus Hong Kong website added the Zenfone 2 about an hour ago!

(Not that I was watching or anything....)

And the 551ML specs on there say that the 4GB RAM comes with either the 1.8 OR the 2.3 GHz processor.....

The sad news is that the HK sold phone is the TW SKU, so LTE bands are not so useful.... :(

http://www.asus.com/hk/Phones/ZenFone_2_ZE551ML/specifications/

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It's just come to my mind that all of Asus France reference to the 2.3 Ghz equipped phone have no mention of the "discount".

I wonder if the offcial spec is 2.3Ghz, but they've got an early batch with 1.8 Ghx processors and that's why they are discounted to 299€.....

As soon as the "real" versions arrive, the discount will disappear and they'll be sold at the full 349€???
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
you get the discount because its preorder....i think....
[ZenFone 2 General] dar_zen:
until when is the preorder?

on eshop.asus /fr ?
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
yes.but they dont ship orders outside france,plus they are already out fo stock last time i checked...
[ZenFone 2 General] Horicchio:
Today was an other special offer for this phone in France on cdiscount.com

As you can see, I ordered a ZE551ML + Asus Zenwatch for 299€

https://www.dealabs.com/bons-plans/...montre-connecte/113502?page=3#comment_1641978

Very good price I think
[ZenFone 2 General] kietakas:
that's an insane deal. but of course it's expired already...
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
is anybody experianced with alieexpress????i found this,it says he has 499 items availiable??????

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-ASUS-ZenFone-2-ZE551ML-Smart-cell-phone-4G-FDD-LTE-Intel-Z3580-Quad-Core-CPU/32300495501.html
[ZenFone 2 General] geegs8:
I buy quite a bit from there. As long as you find a seller with tons of feedback you're usually good. Didn't buy because I want 32gb but the 2.3GHz. Plus the bands don't seem to be what I need. GSM850/900/1800/1900 3G WCDMA 2100/1900/900/850 4G FDD LTE 800/1800/2600

64G Version ZE551ML : 5.5 inch intel Z3580 2.3GHZ 4GB RAM 64GB ROM IPS 1920X1080,

32G Version ZE551ML : 5.5 inch intel Z3560 1.8GHZ 4GB RAM 32GB ROM IPS 1920X1080,

16G Version ZE551ML : 5.5 inch intel Z3560 1.8GHZ 2GB RAM 16GB ROM IPS 1920X1080,
[ZenFone 2 General] vipercoyote:
Yea man there isnt US versions. So yes request your money back
[ZenFone 2 General] Bl00dRunzC0ld:
I know there aren't US versions out yet. I ordered the Taiwan version which works on T-Mobile.
[ZenFone 2 General] vipercoyote:
Any info on USA release yet?

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O wow, I want one..lol How much did you pay? I'm with tmobile as well
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
been reading on the web about the european roll out of the phone.it seems that asuus will only bring 3 models in our continent for the time being...and that sucks!read here http://www.androidauthority.com/asus-zenfone-2-europe-launch-597878/
[ZenFone 2 General] kietakas:
anyone know any other stores for buying or at least preordering zenfone 2 which can ship internationally, besides expansys? it's really weird that they can deliver to latvia, but can't to lithuania, which is the country right beside it
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
expansys ?wich one? uk or fr?
[ZenFone 2 General] kietakas:
fr. preorder only
[ZenFone 2 General] kodorevi8ulis:
be carefull with ali (well my opinion is not to buy at all from aliexpress because is it very easy to get a fake/replica device)
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
did anybody had any confirmation from france that the 32gb rom 4 gb ram comes with z55380 intel soc?
[ZenFone 2 General] SiriusCybernetik:
Yes! All sites, ( Asus shop, darty and cdiscount) have fixed the wrong specifications from their respective product details.

ZE551ML in France comes only in the following config:

4GB RAM + 32GB storage + 2,33GHz z3580 CPU

Normal price is 349€ and special launch offer is 299€.
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
i will be in front of my pc at night so unable to see through my phone if cdiscount ships outside france.does anybody know that?thanks

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i just find out that they dont ship outside france.parcel forward for me then.
[ZenFone 2 General] Overandout:
I haven't checked all sites you list, but Darty still has the following as the spec for the 551ML 32GB phone:

"Processeur, système d'exploitation et 4G :

Zenfone 2 intègre un processeur Intel Atom Z3560 Quad Core cadencé à 1,8 Ghz, "

http://www.darty.com/nav/achat/gps_...phone_portable/asus_zenfone_ze551_32g_no.html

But the important part is that the Asus Spec page that I linked to yesterday has been changed, so it looks as if it really is the z3580 (just as well!!)
[ZenFone 2 General] dar_zen:
how is the warranty? do you have to send the phone back to france or can you give it to Asus in your country?
[ZenFone 2 General] vasek.maly:
What about LTE frequencies?
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
you have to register the phone serial number to asus.after that you can adress to your cou.try asus store.but dont take my word for grunded

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well good news for me! here http://www.cdiscount.com/telephonie...551ml-full-hd-32go/f-144040203-gpze551ml.html i made my order.this site ships only to france and belgium.a good friend of mine lives in belgium.free shipping to belgium and he will ship my phone to greece later.one thing to consider:NO WARRANTY!i had to pay 27 euros extra for 2 years warranty.but its o.k.tomorrow i wiring the money to my friend to continue with the purchase of my phone!??????
[ZenFone 2 General] PsyCLown89:
Does anyone know whether Asus Shop France ship internationally?

I registered and asked to be notified when they have stock again, I noticed that cdiscount do not ship internationally. I am really getting fed up with the waiting for this phone.
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
you can buy the phone but you will need a parcel forward service.they dont ship internationally.in page 36 you will the zervice that is posted .i was going to use and many people allready did.its an additional 30 euros cost
[ZenFone 2 General] SiriusCybernetik:
My mistake, I didn't check the full detailed description as well.

At the same time in the specs summary (top right) it says now " Processeur quadri-cœur 2,3GHz - 32 Go de mémoire", where it said 1.8GHz yesterday.

Obviously the sites slowly start updating their specs.
[ZenFone 2 General] dar_zen:
when i trasnlate the page to english it says 1 year warranty.

''PRE-ORDER - LAUNCH DATE: 30/03/2015 - Touch screen 5.5 "IPS Full HD - Intel® Atom ™ processor Z3580 Quad-Core 2.33 GHz -Android Lollipop 5.0 - Li-Polymer battery 3000 mAh - Living Memory : 4GB - Storage: 32GB - Extension Micro SD up to 64GB - Micro Dual SIM - Network: Wifi / Bluetooth 4.0 / 4G - GPS - Camera: 5MP front / rear 13MP - 1 year warranty''
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
just an update.well just bought the phone with the help of my friend in belgium.the only down side is that the warranty doesnt exeist outside france.so to conclude,299 euros for the phone,and 16 euros for shippment.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
i read that too but when me and my friend proceed to the purchase(i wanted too extend the warranty too years) they replied that this is only for france.we stardet again and on the validation-confirmation mail we received from the seller it was written without warranty.nevertheless ITS EYROPEAN LAW every single electronic device sold and purchased in european ground is covered with warranty by the oem(asus,samsung,you name it) for a year....my friends wife in belgium is working as a legal advisor in belgium for legal firm.you only have to regiter you phone in asus.
[ZenFone 2 General] SiriusCybernetik:
There is a European directive (1999/44/CE) that states that all goods bought in the EU have 2 year mandatory warranty from the retailer you bought the item from. This is regardless of the manufacturer warranty, which solely depends on the manufacturer.

Most retailers try to fool customers into the belief that there is only one year and that the warranty does not apply to them if they live in another country. Fact is that you have to ship the item to the retailer at your costs if you want to claim the warranty but he can not refuse.
[ZenFone 2 General] dar_zen:
glockaki my english is not very good. so are you saying that even when they say that there is no warranty its a lie ?

because i also read the law and it says that if you buy a product like Asus in EU you get waranty in all EU.
[ZenFone 2 General] Overandout:
No need to apologise! I didn't want to come accross as being picky.

I have decided to take the plunge and order a phone from France so as to get the WW SKU and LTE bands, given that it seems that the processor is the pukka version!
[ZenFone 2 General] knince:
the CPU of zenfone2 is 64 bit, but the os is 32 bit? Is there any reason for that??
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
yes.all europe.register your phone in asus and communicate with them and especially asuus in your country.
[ZenFone 2 General] dar_zen:
i guess i now missed the 300euro price for the 4GB phone in france. i will try to get it for Italy.

how do you make sure that the site you are ordering is safe? i dont have experience with france and italy.
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
good news for those who want to buy the phone.check minideal site.it has the 32gb 4gb ram in stock for 303 euros.black and white.

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here you are http://www.minideal.net/original-as...20x1080-4gb-ram-13mp-4g-lte-mobile-phone.html
[ZenFone 2 General] dar_zen:
thanks for this. Interesting site.It says free shipping to all countries . is this even possible?

it says Intel Z3560 1.8 GHz but i guess this is a mistake like others had 2 days ago ?.
[ZenFone 2 General] manpan:
Below, in comments session, a representative says it is the model with the Z3580 soc. However I am not sure it supports all the lte bands mentioned in the description....
[ZenFone 2 General] geegs8:
The description and comments don't match up. at all.
[ZenFone 2 General] dar_zen:
i dont understand why someone in the comments is asking for an EU adapter.
[ZenFone 2 General] nicolas vds:
Delivery date mentioned?

Hello there, I live in Belgium and I ve also bought the phone at cdiscount.

Now I was a little disappointed when I received confirmation because for delivery date it's mentioned 14-05,I was wondering if your date of delivery was also that late?
[ZenFone 2 General] Overandout:
Wow !

cdiscount says they have it in stock!! Lucky I didn't get my order done with them becasue the person who can pick it up for me is only in France until middle of April...
[ZenFone 2 General] t3chfan:
Hi,

Has anyone taken the plunge with this retailer?

https://www.eglobalcentral.co.uk/as...g-dual-sim-64gb-sim-free-unlocked-silver.html

Seems a decent price for the 64gb ROM version.

Also, do we have any news on whether the 128gb micro sd card will work? I know the specs for the ZF2 says up to 64gb but this doesn't mean that you can't go higher.

Thanks for any info :)
[ZenFone 2 General] panthera1:
Done a bit of checking on the website, mostly good reviews. Checked a forum in my country http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057154505 and no one seemed to have any issues with them. I have ordered the 64 gb and should have it by Friday. I will give updates if there are any issues
[ZenFone 2 General] lordpipa:
Doesn't ship to USA. Really nice price. I have the 32gb wouldn't mind getting the 64gb and giving this one to the wife.
[ZenFone 2 General] panthera1:
Pre order on http://www.expansys-usa.com/asus-zenfone-2-ze551ml-dual-sim-unlocked-lte-64gb-deep-black-275813/ but no price included
[ZenFone 2 General] lordpipa:
I didn't have a problem with 23sport. But this is a really good deal for 248.99 euros.
[ZenFone 2 General] TheAtheistOtaku:
Im kind of a noob when it comes to wireless frequencies, but am i correct in saying that the version linked supports t-mobile fully (except for the 700mhz band)?

also, is expansys-usa any good? never heard of bought from them before
[ZenFone 2 General] dar_zen:
on expansys when you change the country the model changes. for example if i pick germany or austria they only have the 2GB version. and no info on LTE so they could sell the taiwan version. :D
[ZenFone 2 General] piskr:
As they advertise they're selling the EU (ww) model in the USA. This model supports all TMO LTE bands except 700MHz.

I bought from several Expansys branch offices in Europe many times, even cell phones. They were fast and reliable. I don't know how they perform in the USA though, you can check yourself: http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Expansys_USA. At least they must comply with US laws and regulations and any claim is processed in the USA.
[ZenFone 2 General] TheAtheistOtaku:
Alright thanks for the confirmation.

Does anyone know if the us version is going to support tmobile 700 mhz frequency? because if not ill just buy this one and get it early (hopefully).

Only reason im being so anal is because i plan to keep this phone till it breaks, and i want it as future proof as possible and the longer the money sits in my bank account, the risk of me spending it grows -.-
[ZenFone 2 General] taphius:
The US spec one per Asus is going to support band 17/700mhz.

Hopefully we get root and can unlock other bands so use TW users can get that band =x
[ZenFone 2 General] piskr:
Yes, US model of Asus 2 will support 700MHz but on band 17 LTE. Why is this important? Because TMO USA currently builds its network on 700MHz which it acquired from Verizon but on band 12 not 17. ATT covers band 17 pretty well and although it is also planning to spread its network to band 12, it intends to assure "software interoperability" between two bands (more: http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...ability-likely-benefiting-t-mobile/2015-03-20). Band 12 is currently not supported on a lot of phones (if any) and it is not likely that already manufactured phones will support that interoperability.

Hence you gain a lot with band 17 on ATT but you gain nothing on TMO or Verizon (which currently operates on 700MHz band 13).
[ZenFone 2 General] Bl00dRunzC0ld:
I've got mine posted up on Swappa in case anyone from the US wants to grab one without dealing with a Taiwan or overseas seller.

Edit: and it's gone.
[ZenFone 2 General] lordpipa:
Why are you selling yours?
[ZenFone 2 General] Bl00dRunzC0ld:
Because I don't want it anymore.
[ZenFone 2 General] lordpipa:
OK my bad. Thought was something more elaborate.
[ZenFone 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Good question is why you don't want it anymore?
[ZenFone 2 General] dar_zen:
question about android apps. is it true that a lot of apps wont work because of the Intel cpu?
[ZenFone 2 General] beastofexmoor:
Not really true. Android apps run in a virtual machine so CPU architecture doesn't matter. That said, since the majority of Android phones use a ARM chip, there is always the possibility that an issue might exist on a phone running Intel that might not be easily found by developers who only test their apps on ARM chips or something. I haven't heard any issues mentioned though. Intel chips are starting to become very popular, especially in tablets, so it's not nearly the niche product it once was.
[ZenFone 2 General] alkot:
I hope there is no specific reason made you do that unless you just didn't like at all, because actually we're all concern about the reason that made you sell your phone so quickly!.

Thanks for reading this.
[ZenFone 2 General] Zeljko1234:
We are all waiting for explanation...
[ZenFone 2 General] jejemc:
Hi I have already had the Lenovo K900 Intel cpu no problems with the applications of play blinds ;);)
[ZenFone 2 General] Bl00dRunzC0ld:
Battery life and not being able to see the screen in direct sunlight. With summer coming up, that's not going to cut it, and having to crank the brightness up to full means the battery will drop even faster. I'm also a phone junkie so I was thinking about selling it pretty much as soon as I got it.
[ZenFone 2 General] alkot:
What do you think about the "Huawei Ascend Mate 7" ? Does it have the same problems you've mentioned or you've not tried it before?

By the way, Thanks for your explanation it's very useful for me & other people .. :good:
[ZenFone 2 General] Bl00dRunzC0ld:
I have not used it yet. I should receive it tomorrow. I've watched several reviews and have spoken with someone that owns it, and the general consensus is that it's a great device.
[ZenFone 2 General] vipercoyote:
any word on usa device yet?
[ZenFone 2 General] ward24:
I have the 32gb 4gig of ram model I freaking love it
[ZenFone 2 General] I am Legend:
Hey guys does the 4GB version have irda? Thanks :)

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[ZenFone 2 General] ward24:
What's that
[ZenFone 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Check front of your tv remote controller ;)
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
no it doesnt have..asus had to keep the costs down...
[ZenFone 2 General] I am Legend:
Thanks :)

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[ZenFone 2 General] mrcamp:
I am not sure anyone can tell you exactly when it will be release here in the USA. I read somewhere that it will be in the 2nd quarter. So, we'll see.
[ZenFone 2 General] yeahman45:
the phone design is ok but why did they put the power button at the top and vol buttons at the bottom if the bezel is still quite big .. it's nowhere as slim as it is showed on their promo photos... the phone is a bit tall also... what is the purpose of having that "blank" bottom?
[ZenFone 2 General] TheAtheistOtaku:
asus is having an event on april 28th in nyc, so probably the same day or soon after it will go up for preorder
[ZenFone 2 General] PsyCLown89:
I wonder when they plan on releasing the Zenfone Zoom?
[ZenFone 2 General] alkot:
What do you think about the Huawei phone now?

Cause all I am curious is about this phone (mate 7) & Zenfone 2

I heard that mate 7 screen is LCD IPS good one .. What do u think?
[ZenFone 2 General] grzsz:
Hi

As phone has 64 bit processor why on benchmarks it shows that Android Lolipop is in 32 bit version?
[ZenFone 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Ask Google about release date of Android 64-bit.
[ZenFone 2 General] Bl00dRunzC0ld:
I think it's a great phone. I'm glad I chose it over the Zenfone 2 honestly. Bigger brighter display and the battery is amazing. Build quality is super nice and the finger print sensor is great too.
[ZenFone 2 General] elias87:
Hi i am from greece and i am looking foward of buying the 32gb with 2.3gb soc vesrion..can anyone tell about a shop that ships to greece?

or can you suggest any good parcel forwarding company to order it from asus france?please help..

asus france has it for 300euro,so its a good deal i think!
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
ελα πατριδα!!!!http://www.french-office.com/french-forwarding-service.html

this was recomended to me when i was looking to buy the phone from asus france or cdiscount.com you can find more on the "myphone.gr" site of our country.but this is good site.choose the express service.θυμισου!!!only for france!
[ZenFone 2 General] elias87:
Did you purchase it from there? How many days? Τι λεει το κινητο τα σπαει?
[ZenFone 2 General] glockaki:
no i dont have it...yet.i ordered it wth the help of afriend who lives in belgium cause cdiscount ships only to france and belgium.μαλ..κ...ες.as for the phone.im on the edge of canceling the order.asus just ****ed up the delivery dates to the resellers and the result is the delivery delay to us...its the 3rd time cdiscount changed my shipping date .i have decided that if i dont have the phone until the 16th of april(that was the last date they gave tome from cdiscount) i will drop it.i wiil spent 300 euros extra for lg g4.thats how mad asus has made me. γαμωτο

but seeing videos like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1GbfgaLHtI makes me sad because the phone rocks!!!τα σπαει!!!!
[ZenFone 2 General] alkot:
Glad to hear that as I own this matey from couple of days actually, how long does the battery life usually work with you in intensive usage?