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[ZenFone 2 General] AustinPowersISU:
Noooooooo! I don't think I'm gonna change carriers for this phone. Darn.

Edit: On second thought, I wonder if I could get dual sim and use an AT&T data-only sim for data on the phone...
[ZenFone 2 General] dondavis007:
Looking like a good phone. I've had a couple of asus phones and the Pixelmator thingy really works. The pics cones out like 3-4 mp but ghey are really good compared to other phones. In good light they where lika any other ok phone.

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[ZenFone 2 General] __Miguel_:
I should have been more clear: what I was saying is that the piece of software has a big disclaimer that you must accept to unlock the bootloader, clearly stating that by unlocking the bootloader, your serial number will be registered as an out-of-warranty one.

So, ASUS basically forces you to accept a void warranty for you to unlock your phone.

And just so we're extra clear, I hate that stance, I find it utterly ridiculous (not to mention illegal), and wholeheartedly subscribe to the notion that your warranty should only be void after you unlock your bootloader if you bork the phone as a direct or necessary consequence of said unlock (like messing with the internal partition scheme, and erasing the IMEI/modem partition, or something like that, which you wouldn't be able to do if you hadn't unlocked the bootloader).
[ZenFone 2 General] Mrcl1450:
Now yes, I can throw my xperia of the window. :mad:
[ZenFone 2 General] waingro808:
99.99% sure they will not release dual SIM version in the USA. Just like Moto G...
[ZenFone 2 General] acejavelin:
I'm OK with that if the US version supports AWS frequency spectrum.
[ZenFone 2 General] deltatux:
Damn, was hoping the phone will support HSPA on AWS. Would have made it a perfect pairing for budget carriers like T-Mobile US and WIND Mobile in Canada.

Hopefully they will make it AWS capable but I doubt it...

deltatux
[ZenFone 2 General] bryanbreguet:
I'm really not good at understand this band thing, but it has support for band 4, which is T-Mobile LTE AWS band. So while I also think it won't work on Wind (which is my carrier) in Canada, there is a small hope. After all, if you look at the band listing for the Nexus 6, you don't specifically see AWS and we know the Nexus 6 works with Wind.
[ZenFone 2 General] acejavelin:
The statement wasn't regarding LTE, but HSPA... It uses 1700&2100 MHz and is also "AWS" band, but for 3G... The specs stated so far show no support for it, but only time will tell.
[ZenFone 2 General] bryanbreguet:
Yes well, this is why I said that I wasn't the best at this thing. I wasn't sure if a phone could do AWS on LTE but not support the same frequencies for 3G/HSPA.

This is a really bad news for me as my carrier here in Canada only does AWS (and no LTE at all) and I was pretty set on this Asus Zenphone 2. Here's hoping there'll be a compatible version.
[ZenFone 2 General] beattact:
Maybe a really stupid question, but is it possible without root and such to get a (nearly) stock rom on this phone?
[ZenFone 2 General] acejavelin:
I'm not sure what your asking... The ZenUI is pretty lightweight and contains little bloat on top of fairly standard AOSP Android if Asus continues down the same road as previous devices. You could probably disable most Asus specific apps and install a different launcher, but that is it without root.

Most people at CES liked the ZenUI interface and how it maintained most of the standard features... But without root, custom recovery, and a ROM, it won't be "Nexus" pure.
[ZenFone 2 General] AustinPowersISU:
Looks like Des Moines, IA is one of the cities that has refarmed 1900 MHz for HSPA+ on T-mobile. My hopes are once again high for this phone. I still do hope they add support for 1700 though, as there are a lot of areas that have not refarmed. I think hoping for band 12 LTE is a pipedream though :) I think they only way we'd see that is if T-mobile approached Asus to sell the phone in their stores.
[ZenFone 2 General] beattact:
Yeah i thought it would be a quite hard skin for AOSP. Still would like to see stock android, im a fan of that :) thanks for your reply!
[ZenFone 2 General] MiyagiSan:
Care to update your post with latest information about availability of:

- unlocked (or unlockable) bootloader

- kernel sources

- AOSP device tree sources (hopefully leading to custom roms like CM11/12 or Omni)
[ZenFone 2 General] bobzookaa:
Ready to Launch in Indonesia ?

source: http://www.asus-zenfone.com/2015/01/asus-zenfone-2-spotted-on-indonesian.html
[ZenFone 2 General] Rubberducky:
Zenfone 2 5"

Link

It seems that a smaller (5" instead of 5.5") Zenfone 2 will be released also. Do you guys think this device (apart from a smaller screen) will have lower specifications? (720p screen, lower clock speed, less RAM, worse battery, ...) or do you think it would be the same as the 5.5" version?

5" look interesting since 5.5" is pretty big phone.

I really hope the specifications will be very similar!
[ZenFone 2 General] AlphaBravo:
sexy phone.. but looks to be wider than usual

planning to buy if within $280 limit

:)
[ZenFone 2 General] AustinPowersISU:
Wow, nice! If it has the same specs as the 5.5 version, that is what I'll be getting.
[ZenFone 2 General] evilbobvu:
I would get the 5" if it have the same specs as the 5.5".
[ZenFone 2 General] electro`:
It's 199$ USD for the lowest spec one.

177.58 Euros precisely.
[ZenFone 2 General] beattact:
I thought from all the articles I read about this phone that the 2GB 1080p will be $199 (ASUS confirmed that at their booth at CES2015 as I understood it at least)
[ZenFone 2 General] electro`:
The smaller Zenfone 2, with 2 GB of RAM and 16 GB internal storage has a starting price of $199
[ZenFone 2 General] AeroPilot03:
Maybe the 5" one is the 720P model? Presumably less than $199?
[ZenFone 2 General] MiyagiSan:
16GB ROM?. ROM?. Are you sure about that?
[ZenFone 2 General] radier:
Storage if you like :f
[ZenFone 2 General] kibmikey1:
The price alone makes it a no brainer for me. At this point, with all of the rumors of overheating with the 810, and I refuse to purchase another Samsung device, this is providing the perfect alternative. Everything is on par and yet the top configuration of this phone will be about half of what the lowest configuration of a Qualcomm will be. If the specs hold true in everyday practice, this might outshine many for best of the year.
[ZenFone 2 General] electro`:
you're literally repeating what i just said..
[ZenFone 2 General] kinged:
U.S. release?

I want the Zenfone 2 Zoom with 4GB RAM, 128 GB ROM. Best camera and most storage!!!. I am sold!

But is it coming to U.S? The previous Zenfones are not sold here.
[ZenFone 2 General] acejavelin:
Sure they were, you could get them on Amazon... My buddy had a Zenfone 5 on AT&T, worked fine.
[ZenFone 2 General] dealova2008:
Does anyone know :

1. If it has LED notification light ?

2. Both SIM slots supports 3G ?
[ZenFone 2 General] beattact:
Yes to both :)
[ZenFone 2 General] piskr:
Notification light is likely to be the part of features but I doubt that data would be supported by both SIMs. Neither official nor other published specs support that and usually the best option is that both SIMs are constantly active but one of them supports gsm and data and the other only supports gsm.
[ZenFone 2 General] haasgo:
It says dual active.
[ZenFone 2 General] balaji.iyer21@gmail.com:
I'm planning to buy 720 p display version with 2GB RAM..16GB variant...

I hope it can Game better than 1080p $200 variant

Is .Lowlight goodness...NFC...Quickcharge available for. low end model..(3000)mAh will last longer ..also
[ZenFone 2 General] san206:
Any idea About release date in India .
[ZenFone 2 General] acejavelin:
All Asus has said is March... No mention of what market(s) specifically.
[ZenFone 2 General] TheAtheistOtaku:
anyone know if this has stereo speakers?
[ZenFone 2 General] Floken:
isn't it strange that there's been no news about this phone since the CES? no detailed info, no unboxing, no further details about pricing, date...

doesn't look like a phone that's to be released on march.
[ZenFone 2 General] MiyagiSan:
Only news I care about (and most others should also care about) isn't mentioned and isn't likely to be:

- is the bootloader unlocked (or unlockable)?

- can the device be rooted?

- will kernel sources for the versions of Android that is offered on the device be released promptly?

- will a full device tree repo be released?

- will Asus be happy to release a fully open source basic AOSP port of Android to the device (a la Sony with many of it's Xperia devices)?

Even if you don't ever use anything but the stock rom, this should give some reassurance about backdoors and data theft...
[ZenFone 2 General] Floken:
Yes, that is important too ofc, but it usually comes after the info I mentioned. The lack of news is suspicious.
[ZenFone 2 General] TheAtheistOtaku:
i find it strange too. Usually we would have at least a release data and maybe some un-boxings from people who review phones
[ZenFone 2 General] acejavelin:
Read through the thread and most of your questions are answered... Asus has a history of your first 4 items, if it continues the answer is yes to those, items 5&6 not so much, although ZenUI is very lightweight and most users like it.
[ZenFone 2 General] user91:
Are there (potentially) any disadvantages from it being a dual-sim phone?
[ZenFone 2 General] __Miguel_:
As usual on dual-SIM enabled devices, dual-active (which is common these days, and I'm assuming it's going to be the same thing with the ZenFone 2) means that you can have twice the power draw on the radio section of the SoC, if both SIM slots are in use. Probably less than twice at all times, since syncing is infrequent, only one voice call should be active at any given time, and AFAIK you can only get data on one SIM at a time (don't quote me on that, though).

Which means that, while power draw should be higher than a single-SIM phone, it probably won't be through the roof.

Other than that, and some confusion that might arise from which SIM is in use (coming from my mother's experience with a dual-SIM Android phone), there shouldn't be any disadvantages.

Actually, if you have a data-only SIM with a nice plan, you can actually use that one for data, and use a voice-only SIM on the other line. Potentially best of both worlds, to be honest.
[ZenFone 2 General] tcyjohnny:
So the South African Orange shop online now has a page for pre-order without a price, surely it's near right?

http://store.orange.com/za/mobile-phones/sim-free-phones/asus-zenfone-2-black-272985/
[ZenFone 2 General] Roy360:
2.3GHz CPU vs the 1.8.

Is 2.3GHz actually better? or is it like comparing the 4130 to the 4150?

Any word if Intel plans on locking these chips to prevent overclocking?
[ZenFone 2 General] __Miguel_:
Both of those speeds are maximum burst frequencies, not maximum sustained speeds. The CPU will only get to those speeds for short amounts of time, while power draw and temperature thresholds are not hit.

Which means that, in practical terms, you shouldn't count on either speed being too common. However, the 2.3GHz top speed might allow you to get back to idle faster than the 1.8GHz version, resulting in not only a faster device but (potentially) a longer lasting one, battery-wise (race-to-idle is a huge marketing speak, btw). Assuming their TDP is the same, that is (couldn't confirm this information, unfortunately).

As for the chips being locked for overclocking, I'm assuming they will be. They are not K-series, so multipliers are already locked by nature, and I don't know of any apps/settings that allow for overclock on these chips (I'd love to know about them, though).

I would love to know if they plan to allow custom ROMs on the thing, though. AND if I can expect it to be better than my S4 :)

EDIT: Also, anyone has any ideas if the USB port allows for HDMI out? That would be sweet!
[ZenFone 2 General] Slaughter41:
Any news about SAR value?
[ZenFone 2 General] Floken:
any news about ANYTHING?

galaxy s6 it's following the natural process, with leaks everywhere, and it's scheduled for late march, i don't see zenfone 2 releasing in march.
[ZenFone 2 General] Fire code:
good news

ASUS's Zenfone 2 will go on sale 9 March in Taiwan. :good:
[ZenFone 2 General] Floken:
That would be great! Where did you read it?
[ZenFone 2 General] TheAtheistOtaku:
Well at least there something. Mind posting source ?

Edit: found this. dont know how credible it is though
[ZenFone 2 General] beastofexmoor:
What's to leak? Asus already announced it and put it in everyone's hands as CES. They even gave out vague release dates (March) and pricing info (starting at $199 for 1080P 5.5" model) . We're basically missing a list of SKU's (I.E. 16GB 2GB version $199, 32GB 4GB version $xxx) and an exact release date.
[ZenFone 2 General] Fire code:
Taiwan ZenTalk~

it is true!

I got a ticket~:victory:
[ZenFone 2 General] Floken:
You almost replied yourself, but let me add, i've followed other mobile phone launches, and a few weeks before release, as we supposedly are here, normally you have all kind of reviews, unboxings, benchmarks, detailed hardware and camera information and tests...

Here we only have january CES stuff, look at youtube, all zenfone 2 videos are hands-on from CES, same with press articles.

Maybe it's just Asus being leakless, I didn't follow zenfone 1 launch, so i don't know how it went.
[ZenFone 2 General] Fire code:
NEWS

The Zenfone 2 will first arrive in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, China, and surprisingly France, in March. Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand, Italy and the US will follow suit in April, while Japanese folks may get it in May. Brazilians will need to be even more patient and wait until June.
[ZenFone 2 General] Aceofzeroz:
Sweet! If things work in my favor then I may end up getting a 2gb model when it reaches the US (would LOVE the 4gb, but I'm tight on funds at that time).:cool::D
[ZenFone 2 General] beattact:
Do you know anything about the releasedate in the Netherlands? Cant wait to get my hands on this phone :)
[ZenFone 2 General] __Miguel_:
Any idea about Portugal? I hope we get it, and that hopefully we don't need to wait until next year...

Also, source for that info, please?
[ZenFone 2 General] Mrcl1450:
http://www.whatsontech.com/2015/02/14/asus-zenfone-2-rollout-schedule-and-new-models-in-tow/
[ZenFone 2 General] SH3H1:
Too many variants to come to confuse people :(

http://m.gsmarena.com/asus_to_release_qualcomm_and_mediatek_versions_of_the_zenfone_2-news-11187.php
[ZenFone 2 General] san206:
Any IDea Bout India launch ?
[ZenFone 2 General] kibmikey1:
Well, we'll have to wait until a list of SKU's on this one. I had hoped there would have been one already, but I guess there's still time, I mean they just announced 2 more variants, the QC and Mediatek, so there's still time. I can see the flagship variant (intel, 3-4gb/16/32/64gb) being released mid to late March, with of course the US getting it in April. Of course, if it's through carriers only, I'll be buying mine online anyway, so I suppose regional variants (other than bands available) don't really matter.
[ZenFone 2 General] Goreman:
Hi, I've read that the Z3580 is LTE ADVANCED so why the Zenfone 2 will only be CAT 4 LTE?:confused:
[ZenFone 2 General] 0kpkp0:
Z3580 is a SoC without an integrated modem, so it depends what modem the OEM pairs with it.
[ZenFone 2 General] ZioRò:
Any news about 5" version?
[ZenFone 2 General] radier:
http://www.asus-zenfone.com/2015/02/zenfone-2-5-inch-edition-revealed.html
[ZenFone 2 General] vipercoyote:
yea i hread the 5" version will be the $199 phone now. Bummer Only reason i was getting the asus was for the 5.5 version.. Not getting it now
[ZenFone 2 General] LikedTheNooBvideo:
you done goofed Asus >.> so much for that , Is there really a reason to take one of those over the new moto G ?
[ZenFone 2 General] beastofexmoor:
I can't even begin to parse the text at that blog into something that makes sense. Asus was apparently telling everyone that the 5.5"/1080P phone showed at CES would start at $199 and there would also be a smaller, cheaper version, so until I hear something more legit I'll assume that's still the case.

Here's a much better article on the 5" phone: http://www.whatsontech.com/2015/02/...-2-leaked-with-hd-display-2gb-ram-and-4g-lte/
[ZenFone 2 General] TheAtheistOtaku:
maaaaan such a huge disappointment.
[ZenFone 2 General] acejavelin:
Umm.. Yeah... because it has double the RAM at 2GB, LTE, bigger battery, and a faster Intel 64-bit processor for just a bit more money than the Moto G 2014 3G, and if rumors hold true, a good $50+ cheaper than the upcoming LTE model. The 2GB of RAM alone are worth the $20 more than a Moto G, and the Zenfone 2 is just downright better looking.
[ZenFone 2 General] vipercoyote:
They should just scrape the 5 inch and stay with 5.5

why would we want 4gb ram vs 2gb... ?

Will this phone release in USA next month?
[ZenFone 2 General] beattact:
Its quite disappointing that asus doesnt keep their word, selling the 5.5 1080p 2gb version for 199
[ZenFone 2 General] troy5890:
Wasn't there another 5.5 version with 720p? The ze550ml version.
[ZenFone 2 General] kenil89:
Phone is upgradable or after 5.0 no update??

Mod edit: Link removed
[ZenFone 2 General] Fire code:
antutu benchmark

ZE551ML 2.3 GHz/4GB RAM

benchmark≈ 46500

27000 Z2580 2.00GHz+2GB LPDDR2 RAM (Zenfone 5)

45875 Z3580 2.33GHz+2GB LPDDR3 RAM(NOKIA N1)

40926 Z3560 1.83GHz+2GB LPDDR3 RAM (Zenfone 2)

43809 Z3580 2.33GHz+2GB LPDDR3 RAM (Zenfone 2)

46500 Z3580 2.33GHz+4GB LPDDR3 RAM (Zenfone 2)
[ZenFone 2 General] radier:
It is still valid.

Wysłane z mojego GT-N7000
[ZenFone 2 General] celticchrys:
More RAM and storage?
[ZenFone 2 General] troy5890:
Isn't there another model that has a 720p resolution that is also 5.5 inches
[ZenFone 2 General] wavexda:
So the Zenfone 2 - 1.83GHz+2GB and Zenfone 2 - 2.33GHz+4GB is the same in camera, displey etc...just the diffrence is in RAM nad Ghz?

Did someone can tell me which camera is using Zenfone 2? I want to know and be sure that camera will be much better then Zenfone 5. Because Zenfone 5 have a low quality camera. Every Chines phone company have better camera then Zenfone 5.
[ZenFone 2 General] __Miguel_:
Not sure if anyone has seen this yet, but I just came across an Android Central article about the Zenfone 2.

Apparently, the pre-order for the 4GB version is set at $439... A bit on the steep side, unfortunately...
[ZenFone 2 General] troy5890:
I think asus pulled a **** move. But seriously isn't there a 720p version that's 5.5 inches
[ZenFone 2 General] Aceofzeroz:
Guys, I know the tension and anxiety from the the sheer anticipation for this phone is really high, but don't go start assuming all the worst things before any new official news. They said March, not specifically the first week of March or anything precise so please, patience.:p;):cool:

Sent from the Ace's MB865 using Tapatalk
[ZenFone 2 General] TheAtheistOtaku:
Welp, this would of been my first Asus phone. But after this pricing stunt, I will never buy a phone from them. I may have considered it if they would of been honest from the start, but now they can go screw themselves. The thing is they probably did this to drum up hype for the phone. I hope it bites them in the ass. Here's the link with the pricing of the 5.5 incher.

http://www.androidcentral.com/asus-zenfone-2-4gb-ram-goes-pre-order-china
[ZenFone 2 General] grayson73:
$299 for 2GB/64GB version here:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Zenf...5-5-Inch-Quad-Core-Android-5/32276866431.html

$287 for 4GB/32GB version here?

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015...-phone-5-5-Quad-Core-Android/32287449434.html
[ZenFone 2 General] beastofexmoor:
$299 for the 2GB/64GB version. A 2GB/16GB version could/should be significantly cheaper. I wouldn't stress about ASUS pulling a bait & switch with pricing until we actually see what we'll be able to buy them for when it's released. All the recent leaks related to the 720p model mean jack-squat about the 1080P model and may not even be right anyway.
[ZenFone 2 General] grayson73:
If the 4GB version is $100-$150 more, is it worth it, for 2700 additional antutu score?
[ZenFone 2 General] Fire code:
40926 Z3560 1.83GHz+2GB+16GB /$199

46500 Z3580 2.33GHz+4GB+16GB/I guess $259

C/P 40926/199=205.6→100%

C/P 46500/259=179.5→87%

If the 2.33GHz+4GB version is $60-90 more, I think it is worth it.

More ram always was good things,otherwise less wasn't.
[ZenFone 2 General] kibmikey1:
It's nice to see it's rolling out, but I'm going to wait until it rolls out here, or at least a less sketchy looking re-seller. I've had some unfortunate outcomes buying from China in the past, so a little more patience is worth getting some peace of mind this time around.
[ZenFone 2 General] Mike Stark:
where it is written that it will be available by march.????????????
[ZenFone 2 General] acejavelin:
That was what Asus said at CES... Also there have posts on Asus various social media outlets that talk about a March release.

BTW, you can edit a long post you quote to just the relevant portion... Makes it nicer for people to read.
[ZenFone 2 General] Ltdrev:
I was jumping to the ceiling when I first saw the link to Ali and even more pleased to see that the seller was FEIMAO because I bought Lenovos & Xiaomi's for resale from them with great results, but upon closer inspection I saw they usually don't sell Asus devices but they have a lot of Iocean inew tcl etc... wich are all related one or another to theses not so small chinese shops who specializes in quick reverse engineering-to-production cycles ...

F**k FEIMAO I'm waiting for something else just to be sure, sketchy indeed!
[ZenFone 2 General] SHOCKWAVE14704:
The 4 GB RAM Model will not be in $199 range, it will cost higher.

Since it said that the price starts from $199 and there are more than 3 lower specs model there for Zenfone 2 ZE551ML:)
[ZenFone 2 General] jerdog:
I do have it on good authority that Its $199 for the 1080p, Atom Z3560, with 2GB ram and 16GB of storage. The 4GB / Z3580 models will cost a little more.
[ZenFone 2 General] Overandout:
Been following this thread for a while as I am another person waiting for this phone to be launched, and just signed up because I don't think that this has been picked up so far:

The website "mobilewithprices.com" is listing various versions of the Zenfone 2 with prices, and this site is not a reseller.

Zenfone Zoom ZX550: $450 (2GB RAM and 16GB Storage)

Zenfone 2 ZE551ML: $400 (4GB RAM and 16GB Storage)

Zenfone 2 ZE500CL: $280 (2GB RAM and 16GB Storage)

Obviously I hope they are wrong, but with no profit to make as a reseller, you have to wonder where they got these prices from....
[ZenFone 2 General] Mike Stark:
Well actually i dont think 4gb will cost more than 300$..

if it will cost 400$ than other people will prefer oneplus one instead of zenfone 2....
[ZenFone 2 General] Overandout:
Not if they, like me, are desperate for a decent LTE

dual sim

phone....
[ZenFone 2 General] beastofexmoor:
Possibly their own butt? The only remotely plausible prices we've seen (those Alibaba sellers a week ago) were cheaper than that ($299 for 64GB/2GB).

This is possibly 0.5% of the population in the US. I am part of that population as well, but it's not like its a big contingent.
[ZenFone 2 General] Overandout:
That may well be true, but I believe that it is also true to say that ASUS do not see the US as the main market for this phone. Hence it is being released in Asia first.

As far as I am aware the two main growth markets for dual SIMs are Asia first, Russia / Europe second. So in these big markets the Zenfone 2 will not be competing with single SIM phones.
[ZenFone 2 General] wavexda:
Asus Zenfone 2 aces Antutu, scores above the 50K mark

There will be 2.3MHZwith 2 GB. YES I WANT IT!!! :)

Ahhh, so many asus zenfone 2 :/