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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
I wish they would just ditch the stupid GearVR crap, as that is what is holding us back. Nobody cares about giant virtual reality goggles, hardly anybody is going to buy them, but they don't want to release them until the Note 4 issues with them are worked out, so the millions of us that have the Note 4 can't get the update, because a dozen people that might actually buy the VR glasses won't be able to use them because of the bugs with the VR gear.

It's just so stupid to hold back 99.99% of the Note 4 user base, for the 0.01%...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] sfld:
That theory died when the first lollipop releases for note 4 got released. GearVR has nothing to do with it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
I just read 3 new articles yesterday that said that it was the issue, that the problem was with Occulus or whatever the company is and that they were working with Samsung to fix the problems before they could release it...

For all we know, it could be issues with certain carriers or variants of the device...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] sfld:
Nah all those articles were BS. The occulus team replied to all that bs when it first came out and said its not true. But gear VR works on all carrier variants / lollipop / kitkat in the usa
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] deathshead:
Why do you people keep saying this?

John Carmack himself cleared this up twice now, he is the CFO of Oculus..

Gearvr is running on LP on both Exynos and Snap platforms.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
Perhaps, but I still think it is what held it up... just because it works now, if it delayed the code from getting to the carriers and now they are working on it... If they had gotten it a couple months sooner, we would have it by now...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] deathshead:
Go Find and read John Carmack's response to this situation, this is a dead horse.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Justinphxaz:
Well, must be nice to be a Verizon Samsung Galaxy S5 owner, they are receiving a new updated Lollipop update today, on a Saturday! C'mon now Verizon, you've managed to push two Lollipop updates for the S5, let's make it happen for the Note 4! New build for the S5 is G900VVRU1BOA4. On a side note, t-mobile customers are receiving their S6 Edges with a update rolling out today too, I wanna see a weekend update for a phone I have!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] marthinollys:
A second update because, evidently, the first rollout was buggy and a lot of S5 owners were complaining. I'd rather wait until the ROM is totally sound before getting lollipop for my Note 4.

Note 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Justinphxaz:
Oh I hear you, just seems they play favorites. They can get 2 Lollipop updates pushed out for the S5 within an almost 2 month period. It has now been almost 4 months now since any update for the Note 4. Feb 2nd the S5 on Verizon gets lollipop, gets a new build today. The Note 4 Lollipop update started rolling out in Europe and Korea what, February 12th or so? Hopefully Verizon gets it right and pushes it fairly soon. Pretty soon 5.2 (what ever the next maintenence release is) is going to be pushed and we will just be getting 5.0.1. Maybe they should just wait then and push 5.1, but I'd assume we wouldn't see anything then until July or so.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droid fetish:
Yes, CEO's "NEVER LIE"!!!!!!!!!! what a joke
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] deathshead:
Really? First off all its CTO, second of all do you even know tho John Carmack is?

Now im starting to see why the devs have abandoned this device...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droid fetish:
:D

Actually, yes I do, It was a simple misprint. I didn't say he "was" lying, I simply find it hard to believe that you drink so much koolaid that you don't believe a person would lie to protect the bottom line of a company they work for, especially when they have so much at stake themselves. (i.e. stock, stock options) As for the DEV's abandoning this device, that simply isn't true, Some people prefer to perfect their craft in the dark before releasing to the masses. Silence doesn't mean lack of development, it just means lack of communication. This device "WILL BE ROOTED"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have patience people. And don't drink to much koolaid! its bad for your teeth and your mind! LMAO!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] slowz3r:
Personally if anyone wanted some "good" development and stick with a Galaxy device they should have gotten an S series. I dont think many of the extremely well established devs are jumping at the chance to hack at a note 4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] chamberc:
That's exactly correct. It's a niche device. No one buys a Note 4 to run custom roms. If they do, they're not very in touch with the Android development environment.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tu3218:
The S5 probably received the Lollipop update quicker because besides the iphone, it is the most popular phone for Verizon. I would imagine at least. There are millions and millions more S5 users than Note 4 users, therefore it only makes sense for Verizon to get the most popular phone the updates first. I sure hope we are close behind though cause I'm tire of waiting. I have an android wear watch and I want the proximity lock feature big time!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ballisticn8:
Wow, now the LG G2 gets Lollipop...

Clicky

So bass ackwards. Thinking about jumping ship to the Nexus 6, cant stand the issues regarding software updates when it comes to VZW.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
I predict that we will literally be the last flagship phone to get it.

As a result, I will likely get a Nexus device next time. The problem with that is that VZW, if they even get the Nexus, they get it 6 months after everyone else, so either way, you are still half a year behind the curve...

This will probably be what forces me to finally leave VZW when our contracts are up...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
Lol Verizon :D let me just relax grab a beer and wait forever [emoji14]
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
Tell me about it. I am with them because I rely on my phone for work every day, I need reliability and coverage no matter what...

But I think at this point, that ATT has caught up, or is close enough that it doesn't make a difference and I can switch to them...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
I have the 30gb, 130$ plan when contracts end in about 5 months I dont see any point of going anywhere, 6 lines barely over 40 bucks per line with most having inusrance, I will simply never sign contract again.

Thats all
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
It's less about the money and more about choice. VZW is so determined to keep bootloaders locked, keep Nexus devices off their network or at least delay them enough that it dissuades most people from them...

I have ATT U-verse at home for internet, TV and landline, so I think I can get a package discount if I add cell service... The fact that I can get the phone I want, when I want it, makes it worthwhile... the savings is just a bonus. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] furfmonkey:
didnt the nexus 6 come out a week ago?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
Yeah, 5 or 6 months after everyone else, and so I had to go with the Note 4 at the time, which cannot be rooted and will be the last phone to get Lollipop., etc... I wanted the Nexus, but the Note 4 was as close as I was gonna get. The problem now is that I can get it, but I am paying top dollar new MSRP for a 6 month old phone... whereas most phones have come down in price...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tengtengvn:
I love lollipop on my Nexus 4 but the Nexus 6 with non-removable battery and SD card is the deal breaker. So, I gave up my verizon note 4. Switched to t-mobile note 4 last week and I'm so happy that I did.

Xenon HD 5.0.2 on N910T is so stable and the animation is so smooth. Now I have close to stock Lollipop, removable battery, SD card on my Note 4. It doesn't get better than this.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
At the end of the day, while I have insisted that all my phones have removable batteries, I have never actually made use of it. They phones all last all day long and I am never far from a charger, and I have never owned a spare battery, so to me that "benefit" exists on paper only...

As for the SD card, I like the idea of it but you know what? I never really make use of that... If the phone has 32gb or 64gb on it, I have never used that up, let alone really needed my 64GB SD card. The only benefit there is being able to pull the card rather than pull files off with a cable...

It's one of those things that I liked the idea of, coming to Android several years ago, but I have never really found it to be a real world advantage to me personally...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ChadH42:
I am the exact opposite! I always have a spare battery in my backpack and switch out batteries at least twice week. I have 2 128gb SD cards with all my music and a couple dozen movies to pass the time when I'm traveling or commuting.

Going to a device that doesn't have those features isn't something I want to do.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] furfmonkey:
note for nothing the note 4 >nexus 6 in all areas and i dont even mind that its stock.. and as for being a 6 month old phone it still just beat the iphone 6 and the galaxy s6 i9n a blind camera comparison ill take my 6 month old phone with s pen removable battery and sd card over anything out or coming out this year... if someone offered me anything coming out thats not a note 5 i would sell it

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4-wins-our-blind-camera-comparison-iPhone-6-is-distant-second_id61676

http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_blind_camera_test-review-1228.php
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
Those were some of the primary reasons I switched from Apple to Android. But like i said, what looks good on paper might not translate to a real world advantage...

If I want to pass the time, how much music can I possibly listen to? I am not going to load all of my 30k songs onto a device anyway... I tend to put 500 max... I don't need the entire series of Lost on my phone, when I have Netflix...

I liked all of those features but I guess I just never actually felt the need to make use of them... I know that some people have 100 apps installed. I have like 20 at most. I use the phone a lot for work, but I don't live ON the phone... hehe I think that I have 150GB of music, and another 2-3TB of movies, TV shows, etc... So I can never take my collection with me anyway, so I just grab some songs and a few movies and that's it. Everything else I can just stream...

So I think that going to a Nexus would let me enjoy more timely updates, let me fiddle with it more due to root and the abundance of ROMs, etc...

I don't know that I will sell my Note 4 to do that, but the next time I am need of a phone, I will probably need to go that route...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tengtengvn:
I travel a lot so those things are useful to me. I don't find myself swapping the battery very often anymore because fast charging works so well. I can tell very clearly that the battery slightly starts losing its capacity after 6+ months normal usage. So, having removable battery is the cheap option in the long run. For external memory card, this is a must have. The last few time that my phone crashed or damaged, I can't imaging what it would be like if I have everything saved in the internal memory.

I hope Samsung won't follow the same path as they did for the S6 when they release the Note 5.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
Question is why do you rely on your phone for watching movies ? Even on the go tablet seems muchhhh better option, and bigger battery.

I have 64gig memory card in my phone in about few months I used 8 gigs out of 64gb and most of it is spotify offline and music and about 400 pics. I cant imagine having bunch of movies on my phone and charging it so often lol.

In few months im traveling to europe so I will fill it out with bunch of gigs more of offline spotidy music but still I will have so much more left.

Just my opinion dont take it personally :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jcissell:
The camera is the main reason for the note 4 for me. Honestly my phone stock is dang good. I'm just pissed because we haven't gotten the update. If there was no update I'd be perfectly fine.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] CreamyNougat:
I have both Nexus 6 and Note 4. I'm going to return the Nexus 6.

The reason? The camera and on-screen time. On the Nexus 6 they're a disgrace.

I've been using both devices daily for about a week now - along with an iPhone 6 Plus, and the Note 4 is the superior device IMHO.

I'd keep the Nexus if it were priced at or under 400. The price they're asking is way WAY too much for the privilege of being the first kid on your virtual block with the latest from Google.

Before you reply, please keep in mind that I habitually root and ROM my devices and in 2014 I owned and used a Moto X, LG G3, HTC M8, S5, Nexus 5 briefly and the three phones listed above. In short, I feel fairly well qualified to speak about this.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
Why did you have 7 phones in a year? LOL
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bickfordman:
Can anyone tell me why the LG G2 is getting lollipop before us. This is crazy
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
Nerds [emoji14] I thought I was crazy after 1 year going crim 5S to note4 lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
Yeah, I contemplated doing that kind of stuff, and did it once or twice, but then you realize that it's just a phone, and after a week the newness wears off and you realize that it doesn't do anything different than the last phone... haha
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] CreamyNougat:
I'm always looking for the "Grail" phone - excellent camera, great battery life, good screen and a tolerable UI, in that particular order.

Also, I've completely lost faith in review sites. For instance, DxOMark has the Nexus 6 ranked amongst the top in camera quality. It turns out that's true if shooting test patterns in a lab. In the real world the camera experience on the Nexus 6 is a laggy, featureless piece of ****. Yes I know, Sony sensor, very capable, it's the Google camera software that's the problem, just download Manual Camera on Google Play store, blah blah, etc etc ...

Nobody wants to call a spade a spade; all reviews are lukewarmishly praising the phone for doing this, that or the other ("Motorola and Google show that they can build a big screened device" - yes they can and it's full of fail). Not one reviewer really puts out the notion that in late 2014/2015, a flagship phone's camera experience should be (1) excellent and (2) completely transparent (by that I mean, the user shouldn't have to **** around with additional apps to get the most basic functionality out of the camera). Nobody can explain to me why the Note 4's screen-on time is 4+ hours and the Nexus 6's is hovering around 2.5 - 3 hours at best (with the same usage patterns, Lux Auto Brightness on both, etc etc). Same Snapdragon SoC, same battery. Lollipop was supposed to do great things to battery life, right? (no it's not a defective Nexus 6 or a particularly good Note 4).

It's an (unhealthy) obsession that I won't justify. I'm happy with the Note 4 and the kicker is, I can't even modify the device (yet).

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Not fundamentally different, no. With the (notable) exception of the s-pen functionality, they all take photos, play music, browse the web, answer calls, do messaging, etc. Some are just much better than others.

What sets them apart isn't the feature set - for the most part they're virtually indistinguishable these days. What sets them apart is you and your value system, so to speak. If, for instance, you treasure build quality and hand feel, you will assign more weight in the decision making process to that category (and you'll probably choose an HTC One).

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I know that some random internet person telling you this won't ease your troubled mind but believe me when I say this: you're not missing much.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
It's probably less about the new features, and more to do with the fact that a new version of the OS is out, and almost every flagship phone out there has it but us. LOL
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] richrcp:
Back to the the topic

Exactly, I thought that was the topic of this thread!;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
A thread for us to ***** about being the black sheep of the Android world...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] V-Ty:
LOLLIPOP HAS ARRIVED FOR VERIZON NOTE 4!!!!

Those are the words I'm waiting to hear!:p

Sent from my SM-N910V using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] richrcp:
Note 4 updates

Don't hold your breath on that! :rolleyes:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
May at the earliest...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] richrcp:
I agree may-June timeframe. The update could be 5.1 when it's released. What's definite is we will see no update until after the S6 is launched!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] V-Ty:
I know it's off topic but will I be the only one to go get that beautiful S6 Edge?

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] slowz3r:
One day I will be back on a carrier that doesnt pull this BS. Screw you Montana. I really miss having a Nexus.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
it won't be 5.1, samsung has even said they haven't even started working on 5.1 update for any of their products.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ChadH42:
It will be 5.0.1 or 5.0.2.

Sent from my SM-N910V
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] richrcp:
Typo in my earlier post stating 5.1 but the main issue is vzw's slow update of the Note 4. Like another forum member stated the Note is a niche device & the S series is clearly favored.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Justinphxaz:
I hope that the update gets pushed earlier via kies or the Verizon software assistant. Anyone checked yet? Once I get home I'm gonna bust out that USB cable and take a look. Just read that the T-mobile G3 has it (Lollipop 5.0.1) available via the LG tools, figured I'd give kies or the Verizon software upgrade assistant a look. Waiting for Verizon to push updates is mind boggling.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] richrcp:
Sorry no luck with vzw software updater. There was an update to the program itself.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tengtengvn:
I looked at the S6 and the S6 Edge in store. I actually don't like it.

Plus, coming from the G3 and Note 3/4, I won't buy a phone with smaller screen than 5.5".
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] waleed300:
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Nope, you're not alone. I already pre-ordered my 64gb S6 edge at best buy (along with my free wireless charging pad) It's just so smooth and perfect (software and hardware). Definitely much snappier than my Note 4 which at times freezes and stutters, but no matter what I threw at the S6 Edge including having 12 apps opened and 31 windows on chrome and a dozen or so on the stock browser, it still flew.. Maybe has something to do with the UFS 2.0 memory or ddr4 ram? Idk. But sometimes my Note 4 does struggle especially when opening texts (takes a couple of seconds) But the S6E just wouldn't even flinch no matter how hard I tried. But I will be going back to the Note 5 in the fall :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] guthrien:
I keep seeing the Note 4 referred to as a niche product... Really? I mean, is that even remotely true from a sales perspective? We're just getting screwed. If the root bounty thread paid interest I'd invest in it. Meanwhile, no update to salve the pain of buying the android equivalent to an iPhone haha.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Justinphxaz:
Well, thanks for checking though! Yeah I just saw that update on my laptop too, well maybe kies or the VZW software assistant will have it over the wire before the Note 4 OTA rolls out. Hopefully sometime this month!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ChadH42:
My experience tells me that the OTA will drop before Kies or Sammobile.

Sent from my SM-N910V
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Justinphxaz:
I agree with ya, I was hoping it would turn out like last year when I had the Note 3 and they pushed the 4.4.4 update over the wire first about a week before the ota via the software update assistant, that was nice!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
Lol nice one making bunch of people update was there already :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] chamberc:
What is the monetary advantage to Samsung in upgrading it quickly, or ever? Very few people care about updates. My wife whines every time her phone "upgrades", and for every one of us that cares, there are 500,000 people who don't.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Sippi4x4man:
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Lollipop update rolling out across India, Brazil, UAE and Baltic countries

http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4-lollipop-update-rolling-out-across-india-brazil-uae-and-baltic-countries
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
Yea I read it today will add those few models to OP later.

Maybe soon for VZW
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tu3218:
The Lollipop update has already rolled out in the US already. Being that the AT&T Note 4 has it already. So we're just waiting on Verizon at this point. Although when I chat with Verizon reps, they try to tell me Samsung is in charge of rolling out the update. Not that this isn't known already, but damn they are morons over there lol Cmon Verizon!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] richrcp:
Issues with 5.0 on AT&T

Verizon frustrates me just like most of you but we should be careful what we wish for! AT&T customers are reporting various issues with the 5.0 update. Issues include various bluetooth problems, issues with private mode files, and battery drain issues. I have also read complaints in relation to call blocking, random reboots, and issues with various applications. One of the most concerning problems that I have personally noticed with a colleagues phone is very weak cell signal. :eek: VZW could possibly be attempting to fix these issues before releasing the update.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Justinphxaz:
India is getting it right now too. The Samsung youmobile.org page states that the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Lollipop 5.0.1 update is "pending" which in their terms means it is done being tested just waiting release....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mademan420:
I would probably hold off on ANY OTAs as of right now since ROOT has been achieved.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
Lol nice but I think I would still prefer lolipop over root I am just a normal guy who prefers newest os over geek stuff lol :D but good to know they finally cracked it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] sfld:
Well good thing we can update to lollipop when it drops, then downgrade if we want root
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mademan420:
It may take a little longer, but Y not have both;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Justinphxaz:
Sweet the Sprint S5 Sport is getting Lollipop today too!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
Can you provide link so I can see it and update OP? Cheers
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Justinphxaz:
Sure no problem Patt.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...5-sport-android-lollipop-ota-software-update/

Anyone heard from the guy (ahhh his name is chamberc) on here who said that the Lollipop update was coming the week of the 30th? A few people asked him where he got that info and I private messaged him but haven't heard back from him. I mean the week of the 30th ends tomorrow as far as updates are concerned so I'd imagine it's not happening and he was just having a good time BS'ing but I was hoping he'd have some actual info on where he got that information.