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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
i think that the overlay.png image can be used for focusing & pressed state.

If i adjust the text over the images into the buttons (on-off-auto text), i can do a single pressed/focused transparent image for each button category (save time & space)

you can disable the pressed state & use the "overlay.png" picture instead of it, so if i push the button or use the d-pad, is always used the overlay.png picture.

In this case the last image is the pressed/focused, that is overlayed to the original, so the shadow remains :D :D... but there are some little imperfections... (first pic) we can avoid this if you allow to overlay an image of a different size, so i can split the text from the pressed/focused image, and it can be also non-trasparent (in my examples, consider the focused/pressed image non trasparent, with the same background of the first icon, but 40x60 instead of 60x60), overlaying this with the original button, the ON remains here, and the image is changed & perfect!

this thing can be done also with trasparent image... just make trasparent ONLY the area with the text (not all background as in the attached file), and overlaying it, maybe looks good or not..

However tell me if u want to substitute pressed & focused with overlay.png, and i start to re-modify all the icons :( (i hope is the best solution)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Nice ¡¡¡¡¡¡ OK OK OK :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
ok, now i go to rest for one hour, one hour & half, then i resume my work
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Ok, good "siesta"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
I hope we're ready... i have made all the changes to the images.. now we can reason well!!

Remember the possibility to allineate the overlayer image and we're "on the EXACT way"... :D :D

Actually the lightning is cutted over the text... i've changed the effect, however i will return at the last one because it would have no problems (disalignment a part).... but is better than before... also can be used an effect that non involve the lower part of the overlayed picture, so that the "rebuilt image" is very perfect.

For now is well, once finished the entire skin, we can change the focused/pressed effect (only 13 img at the moment)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Ok Skizzo.

Now overlay image is showed when focussed...An example with your (not last) skin and the installer..... (skin not included) to let you play....

I will continue working in bars but first I will let set cx and cy for overlay image
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
4 ALL: We're READY hehe... for the first relase naturally

1) Install the LAST attached version of commmgrpro

2) Unpack the attached rar & copy only the skizzo dir into the Themes directory

3) Run commgrpro, options, select theme, restart the application

@DANIELHERRO: ..the file outside the dir is for danielherro, this should be the DEFINITIVE skin file for the first release of the skinned version.. note the difference ( cy="45" instead of "60" for _pressed images).

Note also that, if you edit it, hide & refresh button has REALLY an overlay/pressed image of 60x60 px.

However the "cx=45 file" respect all the image dimensions (the actual has, for pressed buttons, cy=60).

I hope that tomorrow daniel will fix this issue and release an all in one packgage

so.. enjoy!

EDIT: THE DIFFERENCE IS CY="45" NOT CX, FOR PRESSED IMAGES; i've corrected the post except the namefile out of the dir into the zip.

Hemmm i've not described the issue, it happens when the button is PRESSED (test it with the other skin file outside the dir)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
daniel, do u have the email push?? every time i post, after a while you're online!! eheh... see my correction on the precedent post
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
hehe correct but now I have guests. If my wife see me sending this post will throw out....:). Tomorrow I will see the skin and I will fix bugs....:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
aaahhh wifes & girlfriends... the same thing..

let US what we WANT :p

good continuing... and remember that the used skin.xml into the skin is a provvisory solution, the real is outside.. (just if i'm not explained well into other posts.. sorry if i repeats the same things, but is to know that i'm explained clear)

Hemmm i've not described the issue, it happens when the button is PRESSED (test it with the other skin file outside the dir)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
What is the next step?? i am thinking how made it... in the first image i hope is needed a background, for the other we can leave it with a coloured background (white for me) for 3 motives:

1)The final user can put easly trasparents images on a white/as he wants background and they appears good (not with the stranges white pixel around).

2) The the shadow of my images, that in png trasparency appears bad, is solved due the white background :D

3) The places images are no transparent... space saved :D

However a background is also good for the "big centered rectangle", but if we need it, i hope that i will make the PLACE button background white (with some "incassed" effect) and other things .. see the example made in few minutes
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Here again.... I am going to install the skin. In last version there were some images incorrectly assigned (disabled connection)....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
...the lastest updated cab (yesterday at 21.00 ?? )

Maybe the errors are also in my skin file, because i've build it from the default skin.xml
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
nope, errors in app, not in skin.xml
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Version out

Version V0.9.0.17(2007-04-14)

1) Reset radio improvements

2) Changes in Wifi adapter management

3) First version of Skin Engine

4) Included SkizZo skin ( Thanks SkizZO ;)) as default theme

Download from www.commmgrpro.com
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
ok is good, but try to keep pressed for 2 sec all the buttons, one by one.. the only right is the Connection button, BT is streched ad speakers, PDA & Band became trasparent.. wifi is good but doesn't show the "background" picture

Hide & GET(refresh) are good because the pressed image is cx & cy = 60, but give also it a controlled)

you have to do what you've done for focused state also for pressed state(connections are good)

I know that in 5 mins you connect to the internet & read the message.. :p the "sixth sense"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
hehe, yes, Now in a wedding. Remember you can set x, y, cx and cx for all the buttons....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
ok, tonight i'll prepare the skin with all button coords.

However the right effect is show when the connection icon is "disabled", and then press it

ehhe two minutes!! record for this thread :p

Ps: if U want, you can also delete the old theme..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
hehe I get the posts in this thread inmediatly with push mail but I must hide to answer. Now from church to restaurant. tonight or tomorrow we talk about it...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lokmeup:
I have been testing out CommMgrPro for about a week and I must say it is a great program. I do have a few questions/suggestions.

1) A "Soft Reset" option in the scheduled tasks would be a very helpful addition.

2) Landscape mode only show 4 buttons (WiFi, BT, Speakers, & Phone), but I am sure you are aware of this and it has just not been addressed yet.

3) Maybe a button for IR could be added, but it might look weird if there are 9 buttons. I only request this because I have intuitively assigned button 3 to CommMgrPro, instead of CommManager. As a result I have lost the quick on/off button for several features. It would be fantastic if CommMgrPro could completely function as the Trinity 10 button CommManager does, plus all the new function of CommMgrPro.

4) I have noticed that for each location I must assign serval CELL towers for both 2g and 3g band, sometimes as many as 6. Are there actually 6 different towers close by, or are they switching their cell tower id's.

5) Provide a clickable IE Link on the about page to your www.commmgrpro.com website.

Thanks for a great product! I look forward for a final product.

Ron
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
The BEAM feature is into the todo list.. i hope that it will disponible soon thanks to daniel... also i hope it goes to substitute the Hide button.. (it's an hint naturally..) because it's already assigned to softkey sx
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi Ron.

1) Nice idea. Added

2) Actual skin is designed for QVGA portrait but engine allows Square, QVGA, VGA in landscape and portrait. When the skin engine is finished(very soon) the rest of the layouts will be ready inmediatly. If you see skin.xml you will see there are space for square, qvga(portrait and landscape)....but the only one filled is qvga portrait. Very soon all finished

3) Beam is already in the list. Probably hide button will disspear for other button that will open other page with many other buttons (beam, reset, light....). More ideas

4) In big cities is easier to use LAC mode. For example, my home is under 8 cells but only 2 lacs. And cells'id and lacs are different in 2g and 3g.....2g cells and 3g cells can be in some tower but the are different....

5) You can download the latest version using download button but I can add a link if It is interesting...

Thanks for the suggestions. The pourpose is to do a definitive communication tool. No hurry so all the important suggestions and ideas will be included. In the future some of them will be implemented in isolated DLLs(one, two, three) so, for example, if you only use two or three features the footprint will be very small. IN fact only used features will be loaded in memory for each user.

DAni
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
..good morning.. always bad news 4 U.

this morning i've attached the pda to the pc.. i haven't the "on AC power ecc ecc" on, so the band is switched to 3G, wifi ON, BT ON... and crash!

The phone is freezed, the screenshot is taken with the camera :d
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi.

Yes, I saw it yesterday......I ve to catch it....;)

Tell me if you find a way re repeat to crash .....(probably something related with the new (and little tested) engine skin)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
ok, you've employed 2 minutes eheh
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Do you have "on AC power" activated or deactivate?. You say It isnt activated but you plugged and bt wifi and band went to ON...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
It isn't

..the message is too short ecc ecc
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
I only can wait to see the errro again and this time be near of my laptop to debug the source of the problem. The problem isnt a crash but a assert of stl library...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lokmeup:
Some more suggestions:

6) Allow actions to be set for the "unknown" location, or add a "default" location with the ability to set default actions when not in a known location. Reason: when leaving one of my locations which is set for silent, my phone stays in silent and I have to manually set speaker on.

Thanks,

Ron
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi Ron

You can do it. Create a schedule for the unknown place,for example, from 00:00 to 00:00 (this covers 24 hours) and the assign action in actions page to default place and the just created schededule. Then those actions will be executed when you enters into unknown place.

Try it and tell me if you cant

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lokmeup:
Oops... I guess it was user error. Your instructions worked.

Thanks,

Ron
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
HEY daniel, use this image into the site ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
done¡¡, Fast, isnt it? :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
hmmm good, but we can improve :p
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Tomorrow will be ready skin engine with support for place button and bars (for the latest two options: Gradient bar or image bar). Of course you can set x, y, cx, cy, pens, colors, fonts, brushes......So next step will be tuning popup dialogs and finally complete skin.xml for landscape orientation and then for square, vga and real vga....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
ok, remember the pressed/focused state... also see that there are already the focused/pressed images for the others icons.. like "schedule" or "gear"

I suggest the image bar, that can be substituted also with a gradient image :D

.. For the "big centered Button", you mean ALL the white space upside the buttons already skinned or only the blue area arount the house?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Yes, dont worry. Place button is like other buttons, with all the states. The work status is this:

1) Place button. I mean the button with the place image and some texts like "Lac Mode" or "LAC 34352". status: finished. Configured using:

<button id="place" autolocate="no" border="yes" text="no" transparent="yes">
<position x="41" y="20" cx="158" cy="58"/>
<font family="Tahoma" fontsize="12" fontbold="700">
<rgb r="0" g="0" b="0"/>
</font>
<state id = "focused">
<border_color id="pressed" width="1">
<rgb r="100" g="100" b="200"/>
</border_color>
<border_color id="unpressed" width="5">
<rgb r="255" g="100" b="100"/>
</border_color>
<brush id="pressed">
<rgb r="100" g="100" b="150"/>
</brush>
<brush id="unpressed">
<rgb r="200" g="255" b="255"/>
</brush>
</state>
<state id = "not_focused">
<border_color id="pressed" width="1">
<rgb r="100" g="100" b="200"/>
</border_color>
<border_color id="unpressed" width="1">
<rgb r="100" g="100" b="200"/>
</border_color>
<brush id="pressed">
<rgb r="100" g="100" b="150"/>
</brush>
<brush id="unpressed">
<rgb r="150" g="150" b="255"/>
</brush>
</state>
<image id="place" cx="48" cy="48">doesnt matter</image>
</button>

<TopTextSate>
<position x="30" y="2" cx="180" cy="18"/>
<font family="Tahoma" fontsize="16" fontbold="700">
<rgb r="0" g="0" b="0"/>
</font>
</TopTextSate>

SkizZO, Do you need diferent images for one place? (focussed, pressed......) or you will use different brush, etc.

2) bars. I am working on this. Currently the skin.xml for this feature is like this:

<!-- Mode can be "gradient" (default theme) or "image". If image is chosen then image "bar" must be set -->
<bar id="battery" autolocate="no" mode="gradient">
<position x="0" y="65" cx="60" cy="65"/>
<gradient id="begin">
<rgb r="150" g="150" b="150"/>
</gradient>
<gradient id="end">
<rgb r="150" g="150" b="150"/>
</gradient>
<font family="arial" fontsize="11" fontbold="400">
<rgb r="150" g="150" b="150"/>
</font>
<image id="bar" x="0" y="0" cx="0" cy="0">thermometer.png</image>
</bar>

3) I must allow to customize popup dialogs: cx, cy (images), background)

4) I must allow to set a background image to cover the white zones....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
i've though, for pressed/focused places image, to overlay a trasparent png with a frame (transparent into the center) like that...

Note that, because the inside borders of the frame are cutted clearly, there should no problems into its visualization overlayed to the places images
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mthomas:
Problems/ bugs?

i've been testing cmp for about four days now. This has been a good test as I have travelled from my home location ( an area with no 3g and low tower density) to San Francisco (3g and high density) to Monterey (2g low density) all by car.

I noticedyesterday while driving that upon changing to ac power cmp turns on wifi,bt, forces 3g, and turns off my phone. I think this was a profile I set for my apartment in SF, but then deleted.

I then created an unknown 24 hr action on ac to ' no change' for all functions, yet on ac the actions all occur again.

To clarify. When I plug the unit in to charge, wifi goes on, bt goes on, 3g is forced, and the phone turns off. I cannot seem to stop this behaviour. What suggestion do you have? What info can I send you to help?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Do you have selected the option "On Ac Full Power" for any of your schedules?. When this options is checked if the device is plugged then wifi and bt goes on and phone switches to 3G. Is it you case?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mthomas:
another glitch

If I turn off wifi by clicking on G or U in top bar and then click on turn off wifi in bubble, button on cmp still shows on and cannot be changed to off. If I then use the same method to turn wifi back on, button in cmp regains functionality.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
If you turn off wifi using other ways (Comm Mgr or buble) cmp needs some seconds to know. Really the way is:

1) Any app turns (on/off wifi).

2) NDIS updates registry.

3) Notification broker notifies all the programas registered (cmp is one of them).

4) cmp refresh the button state.

This process can lasts some seconds....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
You are right. those issues have just been discovered. Fixing

Thanks mthomas ¡
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mthomas:
Yes. So I did not understand that these were default actions. I thoght the actions ' on ac' were user defined. I often chargemy device in the car while driving, and do not necessarily want all these changes. In fact this is a problem in my home area as there is no 3g available.

Why would the phone turn off?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
Hey guy, i've never tried it before, but seem that the scheduling doesn't work. Maybe i make something of strange..:

i'm at home, go to schedule & start a new time frame 3 minutes later the "actual time", stops after another 3 minutes (in total a time frame of 6..)

i wait (also reboot the app) the 3 minutes, but

a) The text under the big centered button shows always "Home - Default" and not "Home - Test"

b) Under the actions i've selected on the left "Home" and on the right "Test", changed BT state, but it's always off after the "famous" 3 minutes..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Well. Actions page will be remade from scratch because seems confising for the users. One item in the "to-do" list is to set which elements will turn on when the device is plugged, if you want. By now ALL items go up (bt, wifi, speaker) and finally band switches 3g. But if in your zone there isnt 3G then the phone will be off (cant register on networks). It explains why phone goes off....

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
Daniel, i have increased the size of the centered button (180x70) but i have problems... once edited the skin.xml to the right values it's displayed strange..

The coords of the place image are related to the button or to the screen??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tony.wheeler:
Minor Problems with CMP (v0.9.0.17)

Daniel,

CMP looks good after installing but I have noticed some initial problems. Running 9.0.17 on my WM5 Vario II here in UK. comments so far:

:( When I plugged the device into the mains it (like the earlier report from mthomas) vibrated, turned on BT and Wifi and also cycled the radio to 3G (which I luckily can get here at home). I had not made any changes to the basic installation so this appears to be the current default behaviour. I have checked this and it consistently behaves this way. I cannot see why anyone would to have this default behaviour so believe this is an error that you should look at. I have not created any "schedules" - that option area is blank.

:confused: I am not sure why this came up but this was on screen just now: "CommMgrPro.exe - Se ha producido un error [Time out de espera en mutex CMgr::_muNotif]" - I clicked OK and it went and all seems otherwise OK now.

:( I left CommMgrPro on screen when I turned the device off (not fully off) and when I turned in on about 10 mins later I tried to 'hide' (minimise) CMP and it the screen started to show it minimised but only the top half actually went. Th erest of the screen then appeared to freeze (would not redraw) and left half CMP and top half the normal Today screen. I had to soft reset the device as it froze completely.

:confused: I assume that as CMP is used as a Today item it must be installed to main device memory. It is a rather large application (for the limited memory on the TyTn/Vario II) - have you considered installation spreading both main and storage card memory? Is that possible?

Cannot see the option to display items on the Today screen as per the CMP web site instructions - is that missing on this version?

The skin by SkizZO is great and looks really nice. Have you provided any descriptions of how to use all the functions Daniel? I have seen all the instructions and most are obvious but I note (from this forum) that some appear to have difficulty understanding what the capabilities are because you have done so much in this app. Obviously I will 'play' in good testing fashion but I'd appreciate any guidance you can offer so I realise the potential an can offer best coment and feedback on features.

Keep up the good work and sorry I am late to the testing.

BTW - I run Spb Mobile Shell with Spb Diary and phoneAlarm embedded with Mobile Shell. Are there are any current known conflict with other apps that you are aware of?

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi Tony.

Thanks for your comments. They improve CMP :)

1) Thats truth. I am trying to simulate that situation in my device to fix it but before I ve seen this so....soon will be fixed ( I ve to see it again)

2) It is produced when some device (bt, wifi, ...) needs too much time to change of state. Release version wont show that message and wont crash. Really the program exits, dont crash. I do it to detect those situations. It is normal unless you see this message very often

3) Today plugin have been disabled (by now) until cmp is really really really stable to isolate debug and testing process.

4) Yes. I ve to write a more detailed guide because many users dont know 100% of the features (many of them 10%) but the problem was mine. I didnt have time to write a good guide but I will do it. sure :)

I hope next version (very soon) will fix these issues....

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Ok, I ve found the "plug" bug. I ve solved it but I cant upload a new version because I am finishing the sking engine and SkizZO is finishing the skin. By now It can be avoided creating default scheduled for the known places. So If you have this problem in a known place without schedules then create a default 24 hours schedule (from 00:00 to 00:00 ->weird, but It means 24 hours) and, for example, leave all actions "dont change"....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Ok. There are much work in progress but I found a important bug and needed to be solved. This was related with plug AC and suddenly all ON without "On AC Full power" option selected.

Version V0.9.0.18(2007-04-17)

1) Bug AC plug fixed. This bug could cause all comunications components go on(bluetooth, wifi, UMTS) without "ON AC Full Power" option selected

2) Skin Engine and SkizZO skin in progress