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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
V0.9.0.29 out.

Version V0.9.0.29(2007-06-05).

1) Turn off the phone with time limit didnt work correctly. Fixed.

2) When a profile is manually selected then when is unselected(unlocked) "On exit" actions are executed.

3) When the phone is turned off (with action, manually or because coverage lost) the current place keeps active. So now you can

schedule phone off in the night and phone on in the morning....

4) Fixed power actions (didnt work in V0.9.0.28)

5) Fixed 24 hours new time frames problem.

6) Today Theme selector action finished

7) For "speaker on" now user can set the level.

8) On exit actions of current place/schedule(if any) are executed when selecting manually(locking) a profile

9) Added action "Backlight". Now you can set backlight leven on enter/exit a place/schedule

10) Added Call Forwarding action. Now you can activate/deactivate call forwarding on enter/exit a place/schedule

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dirk L. A.:
Hi Dani

Installed (after a complete uninstall) the new version. Today plugin's display of place - schedule isn't updated any longer. It's still on the place - schedule where it was started. Cell and LAC are wrong also. Taping the plugin opens CMP where the info are correct. In fact the status displays do not match the setting neither.

Previous night CMP crached and didn't enter phone off state, it was the last pre-release numbered 0.28. Let's see what it does tonight.

Dirk
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
I hope it was a wrong instalation. No problems on the test devices and the microsoft emulators. Report me if you cant solve your problems.....

Detected today plugin refresh problem in schedule info but couldnt repeat the other issues...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Landy_2002:
-Well Daniel, i test in my Trinity, with wm05 HTC original gps enabled, then i installed wm6, on fresh install, and nothing to do with the off state problem, CMP doen´t work at all except if i turn device screen to ON state. Tested with different radio versions with the same result too.-

After read about some people that afirm that it works in Trinity device in off state, i get some units to test, and the result is the same, ..., reason for that i can say that CMP at the actual state don´t work in off mode in Trinity devices, doesn´t matter that other people says, but this is tested by me in various units.

I hope this can be fixed.-

Thanks for your time.-

Landy.-
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Well, I cant say anything about It because I dont own a trinity. Unfortunately there isnt nothing I cant do because I use standard api to register to ril notifications. If RIL sleeps on trinitry when device is off then I cant do nothing. Other positibility was poll ril each some minutes but It would drain the battery.....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tony.wheeler:
Dani,

Installed and working OK so far on my Vario II (TyTn):) . I agree with the previous comments about usability and the need perhaps to simplify some of the actions if possible.

One suggestion: it would be useful/better to be able to add a location simply by creating a location based upon the current active Cell ID or LAC.

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Landy_2002:
Not problem, only important is that to you know about the problem in this device.-

BR Landy.-
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi Tony.

When current place is unknow and you tap the place button then appears an option to create a place using the current lac/place. Is this what you say?:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Thanks Landy. If I get a trinitry I will try to research why RIL sleeps:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dirk L. A.:
Could describe the kind of tests you are doing?

I would like to try them on my trinity, because I'm almost sure that mine works.

Dirk
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmalberto:
How does CMP handle this situation? I have the phone off and set to come on at a particular time(lets say 1455). The time frame is 1455 to 1456. I next have another time frame for 1457 to 1500 to turn CF off. All these time frames are for the same place.

Phone came on but didn't find a signal so it just sat there until the next frame was invoked. Since was no signal, the CF couldn't have been turned off. So does CMP keep trying or does CMP think that the action was performed.

The above scenerio actually happened but unfortunately my Phone Alarm profile kicked in at 1500 and it possibly turned off CF too so I missed my test oppurtunity. Not knowing which may have turned off CF, I thought I would ask to see how CMP was expected to perform. I know for a fact that PA will only try once and notify me if it fails due to no signal.

Thanks.

--Mickey

P.S. Any plans to put a something on the Plugin or CMP screen anytime soon to say that CF is on? Or any of the other actions? Just curious about the timetable.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi Mickey.

Starting by last question. Yes, of course. My plan is, if Release 1.0 is accepted by market, to continue improving CMP for ever because It makes me improve my Windows CE knowledge and Its what I like. And If CMP isnt well accepted I will continue with it, but I wont spend 100% of my time because I will have to accept other projects from clients to pay the bill :).

CMP executes actions but only once. A future feature can be to take the results and notify the user.....

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] madmaxedcn:
after new att upgrade daniel bandswitcher not working

after new att upgrade daniel bandswitcher not working..the signal dosent stay on gprs always auto and the singnal fails alot....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dirk L. A.:
Hi Dani,

Everything fine this night. I could make the plugin working again by stopping CMP and starting again, but still the refresh problem of schedule.

What I saw this morning: when the schedule changed at 7:00, the screen turned on automatically and the action was executed.

I already had the impression that the screen is turned on regularly, could it be each time a new cell/LAC is detected?

Is there something I could do to help you testing a Trinity?

Dirk
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi Dirk. CMP on should wake up the device because of a change of cell If there is a change of place(unknown to known, known to other known, known to unknown). So there is a test you can do when you go out from your home or work that would be realy helpful :) . For example, if you are at home. Add an "on exit" action that you can see/ear. For example, play a song. Then turn off the device and start to walk /drive. If the device starts to play when you leave your cells home then the test is OK.

Ahhhh, but screen shouldnt turn on if there is a change of cell but not of place. I you detect it please tell me. This happened passing from unknown cell to other unknown cell but It was fixed.

Thank you very much Dirk.

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tony.wheeler:
Dani,

Volume settings appears to work OK but it apears to control only the PDA volume. Could you consider a volume setting to set the Phone ring/in call volume? It would also be nice to be able to set the speaker phone active on connect. The ability to set phone ring volume, in call volume and speaker phone on with connect would add more profile capability and would allow (for example) a car profile to be max ring and set speaker on with connect (needed without BT headset in noisy car.

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi Tony.

Yes, I will try to isolate each source of sound on the pda. This isnt a problem. The only problem is.....usability :). Its very easy to add new actions to control these new sound sources but.....should the speaker button (in main windows) change?. Should it be posible to control those sounds with this button?. Suggestions? :D

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Now adding Multilanguage, Ringtone action....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dirk L. A.:
Did the test as described: play a song on enter my home place. Screen was off and song played without touching the device. That's why I have always been telling that I don't have the problem with my trinity... but like I wrote I'm on an old radio version 1.29.00.1, maybe that can explain?

Dirk
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Happy to listen it. GSM Hardware signals the event to Radio ROM. Then Radio ROM forward this event to Device ROM (Windows) and finally the events reaches CMP.....

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Landy_2002:
Then finally that can be the only reason, your radio version 1.29. If i can find it i will try in my device and post results.-

Thanks Landy.-
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Bug detected and fixed:

When today theme changes then "desktop window" handle changes so when cmp tries to notify changes to the plugin this notifications never reach it. They are thrown to the black windows space....:D

I dont want to bother with many version but this problem was important for user who usually changes themes (now with cmp is very atractive) so I ve create V0.9.0.30. Schedule text in today plugin is fixed too......

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Landy_2002:
Well, another test.... Radio 1.29 installed and still not work in off mode with my Trinity.-

Thanks Landy.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TROTAMAR:
I have version .29 installed, and it doesn´t wake up the phone, although the PIN is set in "options".

Is it a known bug or am I doing something wron?

BTW, I own a Triny.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dirk L. A.:
These are all the value of my Trinity:

ROM 1.23.167.2

ROM date 01/12/07

Radio 1.29.00.1

Protocol 32.62.7020.06H

WM5 5.1.461 build 15671.3.3.0 french

This night CMP (official 0.29 version) turned off my phone (radio) but this morning I found it with an error, something like: can not find/run commmgrpro.exe. I had to reset in order to have everything back.

Dirk
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
What do you mean with "wake up"?. device doesnt turn on? or phone isnt on?

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
I saw something similar two days ago. CMP relies on Windows Time notification system to be notified for start/end schedules or any scheduled action (turn on BT, wifi.....). And sometimes windows fails doing it so then appears that error (This is the same system used by other programs, like standard alarm, calendar, ...... IN general, every program that needs schedule). It isnt important if it happens very ocasionally but if happens often then I will have to do something, because CMP is based on Ril notification and Windows Time Notifications.

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tony.wheeler:
Dani,

I'd leave the speaker button unchanged (on/off/vibra is fine) - the current ability to change volume has no impact on the button (although it would be really smart if the button had a small number on it to reflect vol level).

Ringing volume is another setting altogether and here you need to decide whether to summarise 'all' current settings visually with buttons/icons on the main window - I do not think it is necessary. However, getting quick access to a screen that shows ALL the current settings is essential so you can check on a setting. Of course the ringer/speaker volume is already available on the top bar of each screen as a normal click-to-present volume icon (normal WM capability).

This discussion all points back to a need to be clearer in the application about what is being set and how to display that to the user in a simple format (if possible). I'd suggest that you need to provide a screen that highlights all the applicable settings and below is a suggestion that might address this desire. This should be a textual display rather than using icons. Perhaps a screen that looks like this might simplify some of the settings and also address this requirement. This screen could be used not just to summarise but also make changes.

Such a screen would bring together the current CMP tabs: Schedule, On Enter and On Exit. The controls are fairly obvious but the selection of a given timeframe would be highlighted in bold (perhaps grayed) and then the settings (On Enter and On Exit) would be displayed below. Only those settings made per profile schedule would be displayed and so all the actions not used would not be displayed (following the same logic that you currently have with use of colours etc).

In fact this screen could also be used to create Profiles too. Perhaps you might consider changing CMP to start simply with definitions of Profiles (from this new screen?) then in another screen the user would then associate a Profile either with a time of day/week or a place (Cell ID/LAC). A basic setting would then be needed to set profiles either manually (locked) or automatically dependant upon time and/or place (Cell ID/LAC).

I think that the current Groupings of Actions (under Hardware, Messaging, Misc and Power) might be better grouped and the menu re-arranged. I'll give that some thought and also make a suggested screen layout that might be used for actually creating Profiles if you are interested. I am busy over the next few days but if you'd like me to look at this I can do next week Dani.

Regards:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
wow Tony thank you very much. I think these ideas are nice. I will add "experimentally" that page (or similar) and when It is ok and tested then I will remove Schedule, On enter and On exit pages....:)

Nice shoot to usability issues. Now I am working in ringtone-volume so suggestions about it are very appreciated.........

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dirk L. A.:
Don't know if you fixed that one, but in 0.30 the schedule with a locked profile isn't displayed. Or does that mean that the profile is locked?

Dirk
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
When a profile is locked then today plugin only shows the name, not the schedule. But I write down and I will include schedule text in next versions.....

Thanks Dirk.:)

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmalberto:
NICE!!! This is a visual of what I was thinking about combining the profiles and actions. One consideration would be screen size. This still may be ok of SQUARE screens like my 750 though.

On a side note, I am waiting on WM6 to be released(official) for my HTC8525. I plan to sell this phone if some of it's quirks aren't resolved.

Dani - Just a thought on design and your volume piece of the project. One thing you could do is all the main window page(SPEAKER ICON for example) call another screen to display all relavant sound settings plus the ability to set an action or vice virsa. Have the pop-up display a config option and then the next screen.

--Mickey
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi Mickey. Yes, I think Its a good way to simplify things. I ve thought too to add a button on speaker popup to change ring level. (ring level or phone speaker level???). When you(all the people) talk about ring level you are talking about the "little" speaker you use to ear the other person, isnt it?

Dani.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Ok, for testing....Ring Tone action finished. You can choose ring tone and type (mute, vibrate, vibrate then ring.....etc, etc) and you can play each tone (like in standard windows dialog). It can be tested too from menu options/test/Ring tone

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ruppia:
Little problem with trinity wm6

Hello Dani, really nice job as i told you before.

I'm sill little things going bad:

1) Icon in today page still remain after untick the oprion

2) I use to set at 22 phone off and on at 6 but every morning my phone is still on... if i check the option and refresh it... it going off till 6 like i want...

What can it be??? (i follow you till .027 and till .030 the problem is there)

3) In the morning i use to set phone on and band 2g but because the command is one after another the phone tel me is off at the moment, but the action is absolutely correct.. the phone goes in 2g. What about timerize action (like someone told later on) and user could choose delay aof that ?? so i can do phone on = 0 ( Immediately)

band 2g = 30 (so the phone have the time to wake up in auto mode)

Thanks for your great program, i really like it.

Rups
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
1) You re right. I ve fixed it and reuploaded in previous post. :)

2) This is what I do. I set a time frame from 00 to 7. On start action I set phone off and on exit action I set phone on. I worked in my test devices. Which is your situation?

3) Yes. I am going to include a "delay option" for each action. Its in my "to-do" list....It will be ready soon.....

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tony.wheeler:
Suggestion - New CMP Settings Tabs

Dani,

I've done a bit more work on the options screens along the line of the last - see what you think. If you follow this approach I think it would improve ease of use and understanding of CMP. As you can see it would also simplify the tabs down to only 4 as shown. I doubt this would require significant coding on your part - it is largely just rearranging what you already do within the application.

The principle of operation would be simple:

CMP would come with basic profiles already created (Home, Work, Meeting, Car, Flight, Slient) but allow users to modify existing within Profiles tab - and create others too.

Profiles (not places) would be the basis of control and they could be either activated manually or automatically according to Cell ID/LAC.

Profiles would be allocated (associated with) places that are Cell IDs and/or LACs (see means to achieve this in Main tab above)

Users need not allocate any places if they wish to use a simple version of CMP (it might even be a lite version at less cost).

Users are offered an easier way to associate/allocate cell IDs and LACs to Profiles by simple display of active Cell ID and LAC with an option to add to existing Profiles.

The main screen (which I think should certainly come as a large button Today plug-in as per phoneAlarm) would need minor changes - the main change being to provide an ability to set manual or auto/place profile mode. Clicking on the main window 'profile' icon would provide a drop-down list of available profiles and an option to set to a different profile or to auto (if not already set).

PS - I used Excel to draw these but I think they get the idea across OK.

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Great job Tony. In one or two days I will start with this task and I suppose I wont need to much time. As you say, I ve to move code......(well, a little of new code is needed :) )

Dani

PS. There is other idea I ve been thinking about it....but I dont know If It will complicate everything and may need much work...This is: There are many events in our devices. This is, incoming call, missed call, new sms, battery under x%, mail arrived, memory under x%, gprs connection stablished, bluetooth on, etc, etc, etc.....Well It would be possible to associate "events" with a chain of actions for each profile. For example, If I am at home, in "morning" schedule, and there is a missing call then send a mail, or sms. Well the idea is to relate the concepts of "events" and "actions" with profiles....So CMP not only react to changes of location or schedule but other events to....

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sozi:
Hello..

good software ! but i cannot really understand how to set my pda to connect at exact time (example 8.00 am to 8.05 am every morning) to my wifi access point.

How to set this software?

THANKS
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi.

Create a "home" place, accept to create a 24 hour schedule. Then create a new schedule from 08:00 to 08:05. Being at your home add the cells you find to that profile to let CMP recognize your home. Finally to "On Enter" actions and add "wifi on". And "on exit" actions add "wifi off".

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DR400:
Hi very good job indeed ... still a bit complex for me (CellIDs and LAC) to manage but working on it.

Beside, I have a request/question : I will soon have to record my hours of work @ work. It's a posted job (I work on different positions, very close (less than 2 m) from each others). I will have to record hours in total but also hours on each position. I was about to configure your soft to do it on my behalf but if your soft is ok to open or close software, I can't see how to configure it to set a record of what I want.

Hope this is clear enough and btw, I know it's a very personal request that I alone will take benefit of, but I did not find out any other soft capable of doing it.

Thx a lot in advance !

Of course if I may help in any way ... just ask
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi. YOu can register every places you need and then, on actions pages, add actions "Open File". This action lets you open other software, or execute an script, or a link with arguments.....

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bigdriver4u:
Daniel

I've been away for 2 weeks working and was just able to reload the phone to Black 3.5. I ran for about 1 week without CMP and I almost went crazy. Again, Let me thank you for such a wonderful product. I especially like that you've reduce the footprint of the product. OK on to my observations.

1. I like the input about creating several default profiles not related to locations. This allows users to run out of the box without much setup and seems to cover must general usage.

2. I do not like the idea of creating a lite program. What has drawn me and others to this product is the flexiblity and power of locations,places and Cell id's.

3. Please continue to expand on the event correlation. I think we all have been attempting such things but this product can really tie it together.

4. I've loaded the .30 version . I am still not prompted with an overwrite error when creating backup with the same default name as the previous backup.

5. I noticed the memory footprint expanded by 1000k. Is there a limit that you try to adhere to for space?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi. Now working on these usability issues :).

When cmp start it needs arround 400 kb, more or less depending of database records. Each time cmp has to load an image It caches it for performance reasons. So if you enter on every options showing all images, edit a place and display all the posible images.....then cmp goes growing because of the cached images. Keep in mind that a png file is compressed, but its bitmap can be 40 or 50 kb in memory. I ve thought to add a option: "Cache or not cache" images. (Performance vs Memory size). But no, there isnt any limit...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ruppia:
Hello Dani.

Thanks for your response. But the second point is not clear.

I use to make to action on enter the first from 6 to 22 (day) the second from 22 to 6. You speak about action on enter and on exit...??

So:

Day: on enter - Phone on, Speaker On (60%), Band 2G

Night: On enter - Phone Off

If i test it for 30 minute is ok but when i try it for the entire night in the morning my phone is already on.... Strange.... After that (usually some minute befor 6) i take the phone, click on today line with commanager... update and the phone goes off... (obviously because is night).

My device is a trinity with wm6... Can you help me ???

Thanks.

Rups
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi Rups.

Its not recommended to mix phone off/on and switch band actions because they are executed concurrently and they will fight. In next versions I will add "delay" option for each action and this will be posible but not now. So I recommed you to set your phone off action on start night schedule, then "phone on" on exit night profile. By now you can create other schedule, for example, from 06:03 - 06:05 and on start action add "band 2g". In this ways those actions wont fight....

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] benbranson:
hi,

I've just tried to download the program beta (on my wizard) but I just a load of text code come up when I click on the link. Any ideas to help me download it?

thanks