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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mthomas:
two minor bugs

two minor issues have noticed across multiple versions.

1. about 70% of the time on an bootup, I get an erro message telling me that cmp cannot be initialized. This is in the ms splash. The startup continues and cmp does eventuay load. I also noticed this with bandswitch.

2. I have mentioned this one before. I have four separate connections set up for my device. No matter which one I specify as default, cmp will use the first(in order of appearance in connections selection box) active connection. I can force cmp to use a different one by manually turning that connection on or by turning all the others off, or by going into windows connection setup and reordering the connections (delete all and re set them up with my preferred connection being set up first). The bottom line is that default connection setting does not appear to work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi.

1) What says exactly the message?. I didnt see in my test devices.

2) I can remember you talked about connections issue. But in my devices I have several accounts and CMP uses the one selected in the box. If I change the account then cmp uses the new one. So I suppose there is something in your connections setup that cmp doesnt understand. There is a thing you can do (if you want, of course). In www.commmgrpro.com there is debug tool that you can install. This tools writes a log with all the cmp debug comments. If you want to use it please let me know and I will send you a debug version.

dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ruppia:
Phone on and off in Trinity

Hello Daniel and thanks a lot for this great piece of software.

It amazing and could became a masterpiece.

I' using it till .27 and today i install .28.

I'm trying all the function but those are quite a lot.

One big problem til now that Phone On/Off is not function.

I use lsvW rom Wm6 and the last Radio version.

Consider that Band switching is working 2G/3G.

What could it be ??

Thanks in advance for all and consider me good for special testing with this hardware.

RUppia
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi Ruppia.

Thanks for testing. This project isnt possible without without the testers help :) . Just test with my tynt wm6 and It worked for me. Do you have your phone sim lock protected?. In my wm5 devices it works too but there is a problem if you turn off the phone with time limit (to turn on phone automatically) It doesnt turn on again. This is because when the phone is off then "unknown" profile is selected and all the time notifications are erased but I am fixing it right now :)

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ruppia:
Phone On/Off Problem resolve.

Daniel now with .28 all is perfect.

Still made testing and report all is not going well.

Very very impressive.

RUppia
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Happy to listen it.....:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ruppia:
I'm waiting for Phone On/Off auto mode because is so usefull.

In my mind there is:

Day Phone On-Sound On

Night Phone Off-Sound Vibrate

And of course it's not easy to solve issue for it but i way is writing in the db when Phone is going Off witch is the last cell used by the Phone and use it meanwhile the Phone is coming On.

Hope i give you a good idea, i really like your response.

Rups
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
HI.

Well, really when the phone is off then "unknown" place is selected. So if you want your phone turns on in the morning then you have to do a schedule for "unknown" place (for example, one minute before you wake up) adding "phone on" action. In this way your phone will be on when you wake up.....

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TROTAMAR:
Sugestions

I have just saw your soft in Todopocketpc web site.

Your soft looks very nice. I am giving a try to it.

I have got a sugestions:

That commagr take control of the light and sound level.

Why? One of the big problem I have with my Tryni is that if I set the light level lower when I am in, in order to save batery, I can not see the screen when I go out.

If I am in the office or at home, I do not need a very high volume for the phone ring and alarms sound. So again I reduce the sound level when I am in, but when I go out, I need the maximun level for both.

So a good feature will be not only be able to selec if sound is on or off, but also be able to selec the sound and light level according to the place and schedule.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi Trotamar.

Thanks for your sugestion. Those features are already in the "to-do" list and will be ready very soon.:D

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TROTAMAR:
Good, it will make the soft very usable for me, and will make me to by it when it is commercially available.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Karl der Käfer:
trinity with wm6? please tell me more.

cheers

ralf
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nella:
today plugin didn't work

Sorry for bothering you but I found my mistake.

I stored the program on my storage card and then the today plugin doesn't work. Now it is stored on the main store and it works fine.

You certainly did tell that before but I didn'read it.

Sory again.

Uli
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Karl der Käfer:
I totally aggree. Very usefull, as phone off gives you a calm night and saves battery at the most. And if the phone were able to start again automatically, that would be great.

I if you enter into a place where, by schedule "on enter phone off", or if you manually activate "phone off", then it's only logical to lock on the active place, with schedule staying active.

Unlocking perhaps on

- schedule time slice ends with "on exit phone on" or

- next schedule time slice says "on enter phone on" or

- next manually done "lock place"-command or

- manually choosen "phone on".

I think cmd should show the same behaviour when ocasionally GMS coverage faults, as p.e., when you enter into an elevator, or you drive through a tunnel or enter into en underground garage.

That would be: If coverage is totally gone, just keep locked on the last active place. Only change place if you receive a cell or lac that is not in the list of places.

This would change the "default place" behaviour into a "unknown but existant place default" whilst the last known place will be the "default place on total coverage loss".

What do you think about this?

Next item: As I have a lot of hangs, please send me a debug-version of cmp. As I cannot say the circumstances (I see the hang when it hangs already some time), perhaps a log file would give you a hint.

Loaded pgm's: CMP, Sleuths ATIfix, Tomtom6, Total Commander. System: oficial HTC-GPS-Rom with WM5

Great work, keep on.

Saludos

P.D. I cannot download CMP with the trinity and WM5. It just shows me the cab-file as plain text in the browser. Would be great to be able to download directly to pda.

-> I just read your answer by private mail. A pitty that this is not possible. Perhaps ftp? Total commander permits ftp-downloads, but I really don't know how this works.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi. Yes, Its a good idea because there are two diferent situations:

1) Change from known place to valid cell but unknown place.

2) Change from known place to invalid cell (no gsm coverage). In this case current place schedule should be kept.

I will send you a debug version but you have to install the debug tool. This will write in a log file all the cmp activity to isolate your problem. Tomorrow we talk. Ahora a dormir :)

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ruppia:
Trinity with WM6
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ruppia:
http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=359

Rups
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Ok, change is done.

When the phone loose coverage or the phone is OFF then the current profile remains active. Now you can schedule, for example, turn off the phone at night and turn on the phone in the morning using your "home" profile. No need to "hack" with "unknown" place.....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PayableOnDeath:
Does CMP do this yet or is it on a to-do list? as i cant find where this bit is

i thought i had found bug with the 2g/3g swtich but then found in this topic that i had to put in my pin in to the program lol

Nice program you have :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Not right now but I am working on it :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi. I ve done a "deep" change on Location and Schedule manager. Changes:

1) When phone is turned off or coverage is lost current place and schedule is locked. If in this moment cmp is restarted (or the device is resetted) then on start the last place/schedule is activated (cmp saves last active place/schedule).

2) So now, for example (as many people wanted) you can turn off on night and turn on in the morning using your home place (unknown place hack isnt needed:

home day 08:00 - 23:00 -> On exit Turn phone off.

home night 23:00 - 07:59 -> On exit Turn phone on.

I ve upload here these version (and not to official web) because the change is very big I would like to geet some feedback before make an official version. So if you can, please test it and report any comment.

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dirk L. A.:
Hi

Is there any difference or reason in the way you set the boundaries in your example below?

Once it is the same time 23:00 - 23:00 and once it is 7:59 - 8:00. Does it make CMP behave differently?

Thanks

Dirk
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi Dirk :)

Start time is included but End time isnt included. I start the "day schedule" at 07:59 for giving time to CMP to execute all the actions and ensure at 08:00, when alarm sounds, volume is on.

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
i always follow this topic, but i have *a lot* of study... tomorrow an exam and another 2 days later...

Into this period i have exams until the 3/4 of july! :o ... a lot of icons are cumulating :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Dont worry SkizZO :) and study very hard ¡¡
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmalberto:
Maybe I am starting to confuse my self but EVENTs don't really need an END time do they? That is if I have my HOME place and at 8 AM, I need the phone to turn on for example and then turn sound on too. I don't necessarily care that it ends at 8:01 as long as the 8:00 trigger works. On enter and exit isn't exactly relevant here either except when moving into a PLACE(or out) which you would want to trigger "events/things" for a range of time.

I guess just thinking through the logic, there are reasons to have EVENTs occur while you are stuck in a PLACE and then EVENTS that occur when moving in and out of a PLACE.

So maybe included with a On Enter and On Exit, there should be(not sure what to call it) an DURING tab that only has events that have a trigger date/time.

Does this make sense?

Going to go check your your Interim release now.

--Mickey
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Karl der Käfer:
It's quite easy to get confused, but its not too difficult to understand it.

I'll try to find some examples:

First example:

At first I will stay in the same place, lets say "home", and just change time slices in the schedule, as there might be "day-time" and "night-time".

Actions:

night-time: on enter turn phone off

day-time: on enter turn phone on.

What will happen when I leave my home and come back during the day-time?

Every time I come back, the phone "enters" the "home" place and will turn on the phone. Won't be very nice, as I go in/out quite often.

What will happen when I leave my home and come back during the Night-time?

I go out and if the "default" place doesn't have an action "on enter phone on" the phone will keep off. That's very usefull if I go out at night, becaus my wife couldn't call me ;-)

If the "default" place had an action "on enter phone on" planned, always when I swap to default, the phone will reinitiate. Not too nice, isn't it?

Second example:

At first I will stay in the same place, lets say "home", and just change time slices in the schedule, as there might be "day-time" and "night-time", as before

Actions:

night-time: on enter turn phone off

NIGHT-time: on exit turn phone on.

What will happen when I leave my home and come back during the day-time?

As there is no action "on enter phone on/off" in day-time, the phone just keeps running as normally.

What will happen when I leave my home and come back during the night-time?

Leaving the home zone, there will be executed the "on exit phone on", phone is operative, my wife can check where I go to :-( and when I come back it will "on enter" turn the phone off again.

Ok?

With other words: if entering a place/schedule modifications are done on enter, but not on exit, all other places and schedules must take care "on enter" to rectify "strange" status. If you activate on enter a very special action (as phone off) and "on exit" you cancel that caracteristic, the other schedules and places won't have to care (normally).

Daniel:

might be interesting a "on exit resume the "on enter"-action" and come back to what it was before entering that place/schedule. It's like a stack with one step of depth, to save the state just before each action being activated.

In this case it could be "on enter phone off" and "on exit phone on/off resume". If the phone were off befor, it would stay off, and if it was on, it will turn on when exiting schedule/place.

Buenas noches, amigos
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
In some situations, when a there is a long period with phone off and some combination of ations have to be executed in the morning the phono doesnt turn on. Continue researching.....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] newdps:
Universal Problem

Hello, I have the problem with cell/Lac (0:0), I use Helmi AKU 3.5 wm5 and 1.14 Radio. :(

Thanks,
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Which device? Universal?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] davidnovak007:
Cell ID problem

Hi, I'm having problem with Cell ID and LAC (-51, 14 all the time). My PDA is E-Ten M700, WM6.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Soft:
Using it with WM6 on Universal

seems to kill the universal, cannot accsess/use any input device, like keys or screen. And no connection with the host pc so back to setup again :-(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Yep. Seems that access to cell and lac, using RIL, has same strange effect on HTC Universal.

dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] davidnovak007:
ActiveSync schedule

Dont you plan to include ActiveSync schedule settings into controled parameters?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
.

Yes, E-Ten devices return always same information. Keep in mind that cell and lac information is available officially in WM6 (Official ROMS) and unofficially is included en WM5 but is oem decission (radio rom)to include it or not. Hope new WM6 ROM Releases include this feature.

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] newdps:
Yes, Daniel. My device is Universal (vodafone V1640).

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] davidnovak007:
Hmmm, bad luck. But it's official WM6 ROM however. :-(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Yes. I dont understand why ETEN (or its radio rom builder) decided to not provide this feature (by now). Hope they solve it soon because in WM6 this is official Windows API (RIL) and OEMs should implement but last word belongs to OEMS
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Soft:
Are you able to use it at all ?, all stalls on mu uni, running wm6
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] newdps:
In the AKU 3.5 all work except cell and lac ID, alwais 0.

Device: Universal

ROM: AKU 3.5 Helmi

Radio 1.14

Provider: Vodafone, V1640

Any Solition??

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Karl der Käfer:
One minute is enough. Sorry. Phone off works, phone on does not.

Saludos

Ralf
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Yes. Its fixed. I am testing and I will upload (here) a new alpha version...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hope all the casuistic is covered now.

Dani

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ps: Phone off using last active place opens very much the "tree of posibilites" so isnt easy to test all the ways :o
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Call forwarding (activation and deactivation)finished.

But this action make me think about a new concept: "Actions dependency".

For example, When Its night I want to turn off the phone and activate call forwarding. But Call Forwarding action wont work if phone is already off. So first should execute Call forwarding and then turn off. And in the morning should be the reverse secuence. First turn on phone, then call forwarding off. Now all actions are executed concurrently, because some of them are very slow and should affect other. But I dont want to do a strong change only to resolve the dependency between call forwarding and phone status. What do you think? It would be easier, for example, with the concept of delay. For each actions user could choose a delay. Then for example, at night you can schedule activate call forwarding and turn off phone, but this action to set a 20 seconds delay, ensuring that the call forward is activated.

ps: By now I will solve it by hard-coding and if I find a similar situation then I will start to think about a more complex solution....(dependency injection, etc)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmalberto:
I certainly can see how this would be needed for certain actions but perhaps not all off them. So my question should ACTIONS be done sequentially as opposed to Asynchronously? Then select actions would go last and or first or at least before. Phone actions that require the phone to be on should ensure that the phone ON action goes first then the rest. And vice versa.

Now how to make that happen? Easy to say - not so easy to implement(is it?).

On a side note - For a standalone action within a PLACE, can I have FROM/TO timeframe of the same and not have it mean 24 hours? Ie...I need an action for my WORK to turn off the phone at lets say 8AM which is in the middle of my work profile daytime of 0700 to 1500. Do I need to change my 0700 to 1500 profile just put an a specific 0800 action? This is kind of a carryover from my previous post yesterday. I want/need specific actions and find it troublesome to have all of my time frames fragmented for each action that add at various times throughout the day(WORKDay).

Thanks.

--Mickey
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Related to phone actions I ve put the dependence by code. ie, if the there is a action "phone on" then I execute call forward or switch band some seconds after it. And if there is a action "phone off" then I execute call forwarding before it, and finally phone off. I can program a more complex scheme (dependencies, orders, ) but maybe It will be "too much" for "normal" users.

Related you second point...I think Its a good idea the concept of actions asociated with an instant without need to fragment the time frame. In fact I plan to a similar thing, this is, associate profiles to calendar events. So I will think how to implement it in a "user easy way".

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmalberto:
Just something to keep in mind of how I would use a call forward instant action would only be of value in my WORK places so in this particular case, I would want to call forward at 0700 iff I was at my work location. At 0700 at any other place, I wouldn't want this. Then at 1500, I would want to turn off. Also would probably turn phone off after the forward and on before the disabling of the forward.

--Mick
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Yes, other tipical situation is to turn off the phone in the night and set call forwarding to your home line. In this way battery is saved but if there is a important call you will get it at home....

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rob_Quads:
Since installing it and setting up a profile at work to silence the phone I now can't get the phone to ring at all. Even uninstalling it has not fixed it :(

[Using a SPV M700 with standard ROM)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Are you using hermes? you cant restore sound using standar comm Mgr?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rob_Quads:
Mine is the trinity - Using the standard com manager I have it set to ring but it does not ring :(. If I have it set to "Vibrate and Ring" then it will vibrate but not ring.

If I try and change the ring tone I can select it and test it but it does not play the tune :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Well lets see. Is your problem with the ring tone or with all the sounds?. I mean, if you play a song does it sound?. CMP sets the volume using standar windows api. CMP doesnt use any registry hack so I can imagine can CMP mute action can exits after a soft reset...(but nothing is imposible ;))
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Ok, I hope this is the last prerelease version of v0.9.0.29.

1) Hope all the situations about phone off/on actions are covered.

2) Call forwarding action included. ATTENTION: Its not recomended mix phone off/on actions with call forwarding ations because thery could overlap.

3) Fixed a bug in V0.9.0.28 that disabled power actions...

Dani

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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mthomas:
overheating

Daniel,

My 8525 has had a minor issue with getting fairly hot during browsing sessions. This has gone on for a while. It is particularly warm when used for tethering via either wireless modem or internet sharing. For other reasons, I recently did a hard reset, and through oversight did not reload three programs. commmgrpro, googlemaps, and LvmTopBat (battery utility). Interestingly, the unit is no longer getting very warm at all. In fact I have just been tethered for the past two hours, and the battery area is barely warm at all. Since I only use google maps occasionaly, i do not think it could be a factor, but i am wondering about the other two apps. Both are running continuously in the background. I am wondring if you have noticed an increase in hermes running hoit with commmgrpro loaded?. i am going to load apps one at a time and test, but I was wondering if you had seen tghis before? I suppose it could have been related to some other process running in the background as`well, but the abovr three cabs are tyhe only ones I am aware of not reinstalling. I will get back to you with results.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Ok, ,report me any result. My test devices run with cpu process logger and cmp usage is minimum. In fact cmp is like a state diagram based on time and location events. I mean, if cell id doesnt change then cmp doesnt spend one cpu cycle. But I remember a person feeling same issue, but finally didnt know which program caused it and it dissapeared suddenly. If you finally think cmp is doing it please tell me.... :)

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mthomas:
no problem

I reinstalled cmp, and tethered for the past 20-25 minutes, monitoring cpu usage, and there does not appear to be any issue. CMP just sits there quietly doing what it is supposed to do. Unfortunately, i had not thought to monitor this situation with task mgr until the problem disapeared. I just assumed it was a hermes flaw to run hot.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SANDMAN1080:
Yes Daniel! You understood me correctly. That would be great if that is possible!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Ok I will see what can I do....;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Applestar:
You can already change pictures. I tried it and it seems to work. Well, but it would be nice if you could change background color - and the bar color(s) for battery & radio.

My suggestion is another one: I am not a graphic artist, but if someone from the forum could work out a more refinded "basic skin" - daniel could probably adapt the application to this.

A -fully- skinnable application would probably take another months of work.