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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Well current status is.

1) Call forwarding. Some people has problems scheduling this action. I will continue researching but no worry because there is official api and I will find a way to do it work in all devices.

2) Theme selector and backlight adjustment (this one under unit testing). There isnt official api to do it. In fact, talking about backlight, Microsoft says this feature is implemented in different ways by different vendors, so It is driver implemetation. It wasnt in this way in wm2003 (It was donde changing some registry keys and setting a system event object). By now I am trying to (programatically) bring to font the backlight dialog and change the controls (simulating a user).

So I thought these actions would be very easy to program but I was wrong...:o

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Confirmed. Nice test Mickey:)

The way to repeat it is.

1) turn off the phone.

2) Lock a profile.

3) Unlock a profile.

I will see if I find a solution to avoid it....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PayableOnDeath:
I found the 'plan' bit now thanks :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmalberto:
Actually you just shared an easier way to test(or least my PEE BRAIN didn't think of this). I can set up testing profile/places and just lock into them to force the intended actions or least when I enter back into my HOME(or wherever I am at) actions. This way, I don't have to set all these different time fragments and wait for the event to occur. What a time saver.

--Mickey
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Well, locking profiles is a little different than being really in that place because I ve to trick CMP. If you try the phone on/off situation without locking places probably will work (well, It worked in my suite tests) but locked profiles is a "special" situation. But I know is very boring because you have to change schedules and It takes 20 minutes for me to tests all the scenaries

ps: Finally backlight action works perfectly simulating user:

1) cmp opens backlight dialog.

2) cmp locates the bars and changes the values.

3) cmp closes the dialog.

All is executed in one second and works perfectly. I think I will use this system too if I cant find other solution.....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nukem:
Suggestion: Call Forwarding Delay?

Hi Dani,

Can I make a suggestion? Would it be possible to allow a user to add a delay for executing the call forwarding action?

For example, when I am driving home I notice that my phone switches between my home cells (I have 2 defined) and unknown cells many times before I actually reach my home. When this happens, CMP obviously executes all it's onEnter actions as it should, one of which is my call forwarding. But sometimes I notice that I might be 2 miles from my home and my phone switches from a home cell and unknown within 1 second.

Another example or reason to maybe have this delay is when I'm driving to work (or home) my phone might grab onto a cell when I'm several minutes away from my office and starting the call forwarding too early. If I could choose a delay of maybe 10 mins then I would be at my desk by the time that particular action is executed. I don't think there needs to be a delay when exiting that particular action though.

This is how I would envision it working.

When trying to add call forwarding to the onEnter section. Choose CF. Enter the number. Choose the days I want this action to occur. Choose a delay to start time. You might even want to just add it to the screen where you enter the # to forward to.

I hope all this makes sense.

Thanks for all the hard work.

Phil
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Good suggestion. Added to "to-do" list. This option is simple. In fact each action is executed always with a delay (that almost always is zero). The only problem is I should have to add a field to "Actions" table and to do it user should loose all the actions. Well, I will think about it.

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nukem:
Could you add that field to the table with a default value of 0? If actions are already defined with no delay maybe check for that value, if undefined, then default to 0?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
The problem is that field doesnt exits in the database. I could do cmp recognizes the situation and create a new db but then user would loose data. or maybe I could try to automatize this process.....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Landy_2002:
Hello, excellent soft Daniel, in first place thanks for your hard work. Since i´ve worked with miniGPS from Symbian last years ago, i was looking for this tool.

-I´ve tested in HTC Trinity v:1.23, with your latest release from official page, the last release of forum still is not tested. Results:

1.- The backup tool don´t works at all, don´t let save the file nowhere.-

2.- The location profiles doesn´t work with PDA in sleep mode.

PD: Tested latest release from forum and volume option is working fine. Still need to test the others...

BR Landy.-
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi Landy.

1) Have you seen in \My documents folder?

2) do you mean with pda turned off?. Changes of position should work althought pda is off. When you can do it. Register current place (only one cell) and create some action for "on exit", for example, play a song. Start to walk. CMP should recognize the change off cell althought pda is off. If it doesnt work in your device please tell me:o
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Landy_2002:
Hi Daniel:

1.- Can´t save the file, i mean,..., if i type "save" button nothing happens. Tested with different locations and in phone/card memory.- BTW nothing is saved in MyDocuments folder.-

2.- In fact, i have different cells for different places, and all is working ok, at enter and out but while phone is in "on" state, but when phone is off, recognise the cell and make the change only at the moment that i switch the phone on ,..., nothing happens with phone switched off.-

BR Landy.-
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Ops, vere strange....anyone with this problem? (no actions executed until phone is on).

ps. When you talk about phone on/off, are you talking about device (pda) on/off or "Phone hardware" in flight mode/on state?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Landy_2002:
pda of course.-
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Well, if the change of cell produces a change of current place the actions should be executed in this moments. Is truth that if pda is off then Windows (RIL) delivers the "change of cell" notifications slower by finally should they should reach the program interested on them (cmp doesnt poll for this information but register itself to SO to be notified). Later I ve to go out and I will add play song action to "Exit" actions. But Its strange. When I go home my device is off and near home actions are executed (song)....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Landy_2002:
Yes, my device plays a song when i go out of home, and another too when i enter in home area,..., but "always" when pda is in "on" state, for example if i go with tomtom , all is ok, ´cause the phone is on. I hope you understand what i mean.-

BTW sure that more people have this issue too, let´s wait that someone else is on line, hehe..

Thanks Landy.-
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
hehe, yes, I understand what you say. I will ask other if have same problem. Anyway I will research about it.....:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Karl der Käfer:
hello friends

first of all there is a terrible mess talking about phone and pda, off, flight mode and on.

landy, please explain what younexactly do to switch your "phone" off and please, with all steps.

As I know cell change is recognized by phone antenna signal. if you switch off the proper phone (also called radio) there is NO way to see where you are because you shut the phone's eyes. if you press the on/off button (upper right hard button) long time and the pda shuts down, and the phone/radio too. then not only the eyes are shut and cannot see cell change, but the whole brain is shut off, in coma, clinically dead. So in both cases logically there will be no place change reported.

if you just switch off the screen, pressing the on/off button (upper right hard button) just for a click, phone/radio should keep on workin, as long as you didn't switch the phone/radio off manually by command manager (WM5) or wireless manager (WM6).

mine does cell identification very well, and exactly the most logical way.

chears, ralf
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Landy_2002:
-OK Karl, in fact, i just switch off the screen, pressing the on/off button (upper right hard button) just for a click, phone/radio keep on working, sure, as long as i didn't switch the phone/radio off manually by command manager (WM5) or wireless manager (WM6), but cell change and it´s action is not recognized by the phone. That is the issue.-

Thanks Landy.-

PD: Trinity v1.23, radio 1.38, free for all operators and WM5 HTC ROM GPS enabled
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
I wonder If it can be caused by the trinity GPS rom because there are many trinity users without that issue. Tonight I went out to a restaurant with my wife and took my TynT(wm6) and my Athena(WM5) and to my home place added "on exit" action to play a song. Then I turned off both devices and started to drive. After one minute both started to play the song. I will think about a way to find a solution to your problem....

Dani

ps. In fact location notifications are provided by Radio ROM. For example, the radio rom in htc universal doesnt provide this info(always return 0). Other devices, like some ETEN always returns the same info (-51). But in WM6 this api is official so I hope that next radio rom versions fix this kind of problems...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmalberto:
Just discovered a problem with attempting to LOCK a profile. I choose to lock and I get the warning message that I press YES to. I next click the PLACE I want to lock to and I get the prompt of how long I want to LOCK for. I picked NO LIMIT and then get the message that the place doesn't exist popup. The third time that I tried it, it worked. Not sure what is up.

--Mickey
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Landy_2002:
-I´m thinking in radio update to 1.41, but before... some Trinity user with radio ROM 1.38 and working cell change actions in off state?

Thanks.-
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dirk L. A.:
I'm running ROM 1.23.167.2 and radio 1.29.00.01 (WM5).

I do not have the problem you describe.

Dirk
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tony.wheeler:
A Few Comments

Dani,

I have a few suggestions:

Profiles Versus Places - The use of these terms is confusing in CMP. I would suggest that you standardise on use of the word 'Profile' and consider the Profile either automatically set (according to cell ID, time or some event) or manually (locked) set. I suggest that you change the 'on press' action of the place icon on main Window to bring up a simpler option window to set 'Manual profile' (any predefined) or set to Automatic. It might be better if you build some basic profiles into CMP just like phoneAlarm and other mobile phone manufacturers - we could then change the standard settings as required and that would mean allowing us to define Cell IDs or LAC codes that might be used to trigger/set a profile too. You could also seperate Profiles completely from Places by allowing a place to have a particular profile activated on entry and on exit - of course adding the time settings can also add complexity...

Today Plug-in Requirement - Getting access to all the settings easily is key and the lack of a fully functioning Today Plug-in is a limitation. The phoneAlarm integration with the Today screen is worth looking at and such an aproach would offer easy control and access to device Comm settings.

Speaker Settings - Can you add the ability to define phone ring and pda notification volume settings either globally or per Profile? This is currently missing but would normally be there in a Profile setting application (which CMP is now)

I think that CMP is getting very good but still lacks a few elements to make it that fully capable Profile setting application. Having Profiles either set manually or automatically may help simplify understanding but there are still too many complications with the application fo rmany users to easily use - but that is always a factor with some many 'power features' and should not detract from the great control available. It would just be better if some settings were more easily understood/explained. Setting a 'unique' Cell ID or LAC code for a given location/place remains an issue.

I have one error that needs attention:

Profiles (Places) Lock - If I press the place icon on main screen then select 'Profile' - Yes then select a place/profile but press cancel as the option CMP still sets that place/profile and locks to it - I think this has been reported.

Keep up the good work Dani :) .

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Landy_2002:
Well,..., installed radio 1.41 and tested with same results, phone works ok in off mode, receiving calls, but CMP don´t work until i push "on" button, then make the action.-

I´m thinking now that problem may be some soft installed in my PDA.... perhaps a hard reset and will be ....

BR Landy.-
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
1) Usability issues will be redesign very soon, when thecnical aspects are finished....

2) Today plugin will be improved with many options. Well, by now users have to do two clicks to manage, for example, bluetooth. One for bring cmp and other to click bt...

3) I will research about differnet sound sources....

4) fixed.....

Thanks Tony :)

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Probably....My test devices are always clean except, of course, my own device (AThena). Maybe the problem is caused by a program that doesnt allow to flow the ril events....or maybe the SO version....who knows :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Ok. backlight action finished (well, firstr try). Asi I told before there isnt a "official" way to manage it. Microsoft says It is OEM decission so one solution can work in a device but fails in other.

I had two options. 1) Manage driver directly (this is the most common way used). 2) Simulate the user, opening backlight applet and modifying the values. This way. I ve added a check in options page where users can choose the method. By default driver method is selected. You can test it in main panel, menu/test/backlight.

I wont add more action before v.0.9.0.29 is released. Now I will try fix the Call Forward and theme selector issues.

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Landy_2002:
Hi Daniel... i tell you:

Hard reset the phone, then i install only CMP and test with sound at enter and exit in home cell, but results are the same, only working in "ON" state.

Now restoring....

BR Landy.-
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Ok, then It seems SO or SO + radio version....

I ve just found a bug in call forward action that affect to not spanish users:

lpForwardList->ForwardList[0].dwDestCountryCode = 34;

Now I understand why spanish people hadnt those issues......(34 is spanish prefix):o

Just reuploaded cab files with call forward fix. Please people that had problems with this action test it and report.....Thanks :)

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmalberto:
Dani - where did you upload to? I redownloaded the above CAB but it was the same file size which is why I ask. Thanks.

--Mickey
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
In this page. The size is the same, because only changed some bytes.....

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmalberto:
My testing with the CF fixes are 3 for 3...looks like you may have found it.

--Mickey
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] casouzaj:
Small icons on Today screen ?

Hi Dani,

Great application of yours ! Congratulations ! Although I've read, back on this thread, that it could not detect LAC and CellID when installed on a HTC Universal, I've decided to give it a try on my Xda Exec.

I have installed your last released VGA cab file (the one which is able to control backlight). I was able to lock my home location and assign a name to it. However, the icons and words, which show on the Today screen, are so small, that I'm unable to read them. Besides, my D-pad passes over it, i.e. I must tap over it to access its properties.

Would you know some possible solutions for these problems ? Any registry hacks, perhaps ?

Thanks anyway.

Best regards,

Carlos
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi Carlos.

Today icons are part of the skin and by now the only one is sKizZO.Now SkizZO is studying for university tests but very soon will be here again and he will finish the VGA icons :)

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dirk L. A.:
On my device CF is not working any longer... all other actions "on enter" are executed but not the CF

Dirk
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
have your tried the action directly, using test menu option?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dirk L. A.:
just tried direct with test menu: that worked but I had again the behaviour I have already described...

Dirk
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Theme selector action redone. You can test it like action or from menu/test options. Please, sometimes CMP opens windows theme dialog. Please dont manage it. Let CMP manage it......

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
I ve reuploaded a new version that solves these issues:

1) Now, when standar theme dialog is created now is only showed less than a second.

2) When a change of theme was executed and the devices was suspended sometimes the standar dialog needed to much time to execute so the action wasnt finished correctly. Solved. Now cmp waits for standar Windows dialog is present and ready and only then the action is executed.

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmalberto:
Having some CellID weirdness. I have an UNKNOWN cellid showing up at my house. I have recently removed it from my Home Place. Reason was that it shows about 20+ miles aways. Noticed it today and thought that the entry in my HOME place just had to be wrong. Anyways, I see it again now while I am at home. Problem is that I will add it to Home but I suspect that it will show up again on my way back to work...20 Plus miles away. No issues for you to resolve but annoying none the less as I don't want this location to be considered home. As I say...its weird.

Anyways..gonna go grab 0.29 and go play.

--Mickey
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ruppia:
A little problem.

From the last 028 version it's impossible to remove the little icon on bottom of today page.

The option it's no more availabe, because if you untick the option its continue stys on bottom.

Also i really don't understand the phone off function.

Can you help me.

Thanks.

Rups
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
1) Tray icon. Confirmed. Fixing....

2) Phone off. This feature is usefull, for example, to save bettery in the night. In my case I set up a schedule called "Night" from 00:30 to .7:30. On Enter I ve added "phone off" action and on exit I added "phone on" action. In this way the the pda stays in flight mode all the night, saving battery...

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Karl der Käfer:
Hello Dani,

I just downloaded ...29.

Program says there is a newer version, and "about" asks me to update from version ...29 to ...28.

I think there's something wrong.

Your home page still gives the version 28 for download.

I haven't had much time to test because I just installed WM6 and had lots of problems with ActiveSync which I wanted do resolve before.

ActiveSinc needs a lot of temporary ram space even if I put all attachments on SD-Chip. I have an available rest of RAM of less then 1 MB !!!.

So please check with Skizzo if there is a posibility of creating a "default slime line super light skin".

I think memory lack could be bettered if the installation put in RAM only the slime line super light skin and let you choose where to save the full size skins.

I would then save the magnific but large Skizzo skin on the SD-Chip. If the chip were not there, the program could fall back automatically to the slim line super light skin as default, until the next change of place/schedule.

Saludos

Ralf
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Yes. It says there is a new version version official version is 28 and cmp detects its version is different and it supposes there is a newer version but not, really official veersion is older than this one....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmalberto:
As I play with CMP more and more I feel like I need to at least mention these redesign thoughts. This perspective is based on creating and maintaining Places/Profiles:

After creating(or maintaining) a profile, there are at least two tabs to go to after the initial one; schedule, on enter and/or exit. My thinking is to at least reduce this down to two tabs(maybe even one) total for a place. So from the schedule tab, it would be really nice to be able to click/modify a time frame(via some sort of edit) to add actions right here. This would eliminate the need for the two other tabs.

Just my thoughts on usability.

--Mickey
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Karl der Käfer:
Also nobody will be able to call you on 03.00 am and you can sleep and dream and ...

By the way:

You must distinguish between phone off and flight mode.

Phone off (the phone icon in the MS CommManager) is PDA-only mode with all radio capabilities as wifi and BT, active, but just no cellular phone off.

So if you are asked to shut down your electronic devices, phone off is not sufficiant. Hospital equipment and airplains might respond inadvertedly to all kind of high frecuency signals, not only to cellular phone signals.

The proper Flight Mode is: Phone and WIFI and BT off.

Test it using MS CommManager: BT on, phone on, wifi on, then I pressed flight mode and all the three switched off.

For instance, it's easy to get into flight mode but not so easy to come out of it. By pressing the plane icon again the pda just reactivated BT. Wifi did not activate automatically and the phone got waiting for PIN without coming up the PIN-Screen.

So please remember this when your plane is doing strange things during taking off :( , like seeing the horizoon swapped like seeing the airport buildings upside down. :eek:

Saludos

Ralf
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Karl der Käfer:
I agree.

I saw that if in "on enter" you choose a place and a schedule, edit your enter actions and then press "on exit" you won't find yourself necesarily within the same place and schedule. This might leed to put "on exit"-actions for other schedules than you wanted to. The result could be quite a mess.

So I'd apreciate maintaining the selected place/schedule when swaping from "on enter" to "on exit" and vice versa, until I choose others, and then maintain the new selection when swapping.

Coming from the schedule page to "on enter" or "on exit" the proposal could be the choosen place/schedule from the schedule page.

Best regards y saludos

Ralf
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Its truth that must be changes in "usability" concepts. This tools is nice for "advanced users" but dificult to use for "normal" users. But I will cover these aspects after Release V1.0 because It can take hundred of hours. For curiosity people, :D Each time I work in CMP I start a timer. CMP has taken more than 1000 hours until now :)