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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] windstrings:
I've never really understood this logic behind locking it in the first place on the SD card but not the phone storage.

Isn't the phone storage most vulnerable to attack or corruption from a malicious intent app?

It's my stinkin SD card, leave it the heck alone!

What business is it of Google what's on MY card?

They leave the whole phone storage wide open ?

I suspect this was about money all along trying to force us to cloud storage.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nh97103:
I agree completely. It didn't affect Google's Nexus phones, so they went ahead and screwed those who it did affect.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] windstrings:
I guess rather than Samsung sueing Google at a tremendous expense, they just made their default file manager work to write to SD.

Es file explorer will delete but not write, but stock will.. Go figure!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rajkabul:
Agree
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kristech2011:
Still no signs of lolipop update!!

Samsung whtly this delay!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
Android Lollipop manual for Samsung Galaxy Note 4 goes live, update could arrive soon

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/01/28...xy-note-4-goes-live-update-could-arrive-soon/

Interesting to see.. the Note3 in Russia think got Lolipop already lol it kind of makes no sence but according to this article the guides are showing up for:

SM-N910F, SM-N910C, SM-N910H

I wonder how much longer it will take before verizon gets it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Poloasis:
June 2015
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] windstrings:
Humm,

And do we want it's the next question

Root is so hard to get on the Verizon phone I guess only time will tell if lollipop is this
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] :
For me, no I don't want it. I'm happy with the way my phone is on NI1. I really dislike the color theme of lollipop and it seems a lot of apps are updating to that. Unless it gets rooted I'll stay where I am for now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] windstrings:
I have greenify blocking sdm but it only sporadically hibernates so on a non rooted vrzn note 4 with locked bootloader, not sure there is a good way to block the update forever.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mademan420:
I found the reason why.

Q: Who is eligible for the Video Calling feature that is part of Advanced Calling 1.0?

A: Customers who add HD Voice and have a Video Calling-capable phone are eligible for Video Calling. Currently, this Advanced Calling 1.0 feature is not supported on iPhone 6 or iPhone 6 Plus.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] windstrings:
Yeah looks like you don't know if you can connect to a call until the call actually connects, then it checks the status of the other caller when you hit the Video button.

I don't know if lollipop is just that much more superior or if the apps of late have been getting optimized for lollipop and not for KitKat , but things are definitely faster and punchier..... especially the Internet when using lollipop.... I'm quite pleased so far.

Somehow it seems to utilize memory better and smoother
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hazedabeast:
Can anyone share the Ota file?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Aokusman:
I am using the verizon note 4 on tmobile. Currently the keis update info page is being updated. Fingers crossed that verizon uodate will show up.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
You should try first verizon software upgrade assistant (you don't need vz sim f or that)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Aokusman:
How do i get that? Im using a mac by the way.

I also have a verizon sim (never activated) but does not do the trick.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
not sure about mac, i have a hackintosh and pcs so i never have this issue if needed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] V-Ty:
I'm guessing you guys haven't went to settings and checked system updates for OTA right?

Sent from my SM-N910V using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Aokusman:
We have but we dont have verizon service and it says update not currently available.

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I have access to a pc, can you link to this software?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
I am on Verizon and already have it for few days but some people are not, you must have active sim from VZW to be able to pull up OTA (for example motorola phones don't require any sim to be in to pull up ota)

Plug in your phone via usb to your pc -> go to my computer you should see your phone as a CD-DISC click on it and install it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] V-Ty:
You could find a friend with Verizon Sim card. Throw it in your phone, look for software update, download and give them there Sim back. Unless you're a gangsta. Then you just keep there Sim:D

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Aokusman:
Just plugged it into my old netbook and it just shows up as a portable player and not a CD-disc
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
That is because you are in MTP mode,i think you have to uncheck it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Aokusman:
ok got it installed but dont think the upgrade is available yet.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Aokusman:
It's in kies now. Whoopie
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
The guy above me says its in kies now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Aokusman:
That guy is me lol. Do I need to restore before or after the update to lollipop.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
Restore? that's iPhone thing ;) if you feel your phone is slower then it should be do it after (it usually is recommended to do factory reset with such huge update but not required)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Aokusman:
Yeah I was using a 6plus before buying the note 4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] brokenartist:
Just saw the update for this come up. Wondering do I update or continue waiting on root. Wanted to know what everyone else has been doing.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] windstrings:
I hear you can go back to KitKat if you don't like lollipop, I personally like it
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hazedabeast:
So it's safe to update?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nh97103:
Please try to search for answers on your own using XDA's search function before asking questions, but yes, you can roll back to 4.4.4 for root or whatever else.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Aokusman:
I updated yesterday. No issues thus far.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
updated OP a little if anyone can provide me devices I missed with lolipop upgrade let me know didn't have much time lately.

PS. if anyone of you wife or whatever has note3 it's getting lolipop today.

Not a bad job,verizon.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
This thread has been updated Galaxy S5 on T-MO Has been updated to 5.1.1 let the 5.1.1 awaiting games start!

any updates on US carriers that happen to 5.1.1 let me know!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mademan420:
This should do the trick:good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] :
The easiest way to block the OTA or any app is with this program if you have a Windows computer. After you install it block SDM.apk and it will not bother you again, it will even be removed from the settings menu until you unblock it. I use this method but the first is the easiest. After run either of these you will most likely have to open the app manager and manually stop the app but it will not start back up until either you unblock it or do a data reset. Clearing cache will not affect the block state. I use greenify too but just to hibernate when I'm not using the phone.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] K-alz:
Yes, there is. Look into this section of the forums (general) and find debloater for note 4 without root or something like that. There is a video about it as well. You can literally freeze/disable anything on your phone regardless of what it is.

Edit. There it is http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2972263

from my Allianced N3.

Remember! if your Alliance manager FCs, just delete the "Alliance" folder in your SDcard then re-open the Alliance manager app.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
Verizon S5 got lolipop update today :D

are we mad about it lol? :D :silly::confused::highfive::rolleyes:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tu3218:
We have to be right behind them right?? Hope so! Lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] cylamanae:
I wonder would we be able to oden back to one of the other versions if a root method becomes available?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] slowz3r:
Typically once you upgrade you cannot odin back to your previous version of android.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] :
We can now and the VZW S5 can with the lollipop update they got last night. The VZW Droid Turbo allows rollback too, hopefully they will continue with this trend.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bbeelzebub:
Every Android device I've had has been able to ODIN back to an old version. (And on HTC, we used a diff. tool). This one isn't different.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nh97103:
The Note 2 couldn't, and I'm guessing there are many more like me that went from it to the Note 4, which is where the question comes from. :P
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mademan420:
Finally some good news....

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/02/11/galaxy-note-4-lollipop-5-0-1-update-starts-rolling-poland/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
Lol i wonder why they start with my home country again. It is interesting because most people can't afford high end phones,usually businesses get good deals. But regular family/single plans in Poland are kind of expensive,minutes still are expensive but data cheaper.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mademan420:
I wondered this myself. My guess is that they want to start in a smaller market that way if something is wrong, they can fix it before they roll it out to the masses. Kinda like how moto does soak test.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
I wish I could answer that lol.

People in there usually stick with cheap contract phones or prepaid deals.

Yes even phones on prepaid are sort of like contracts for like 1pln less then 50cents you get a phone lol.

Makes me think not to many people will have it so they can see if there is any issues. Most people in Poland I know stick with sony phones,lg,samsung galaxy core? Something like that,hell some people still rock nokia 3310! Lol.

I wish i could ask some friends how smooth it is.. No one I know has PL Note4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bsweetness:
One international variant of the Note 4 (N910F) with a Snapdragon processor is starting to see the Lollipop update arrive (in Germany). That's good news for the U.S. since all of the versions of the Note 4 here have a Snapdragon processor. Hopefully we're inching a little bit closer.

Galaxy Note 4 Snapdragon variant (SM-N910F), Galaxy Note 3 LTE get Lollipop update (SamMobile)

Samsung has a large research and development center in Poland. When you add that to the fact that you have a smaller group of users with whom to pilot test the software, it becomes easier to see why updates are often released there first.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droid fetish:
According to my tipster, that tipster is wrong! I know my tipster is correct because it's February! When it comes it comes.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] agentxavier:
What is the change for lollipop on the note 4. I dont see much of a difference. Looks just like touchwiz that has come before? Am I missing something?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] windstrings:
Apps able to Write to SD?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manatti:
I have to say lollipop on my s5 with encryption from work mind you runs so much smoother and faster and no lag or any issues. It's how this phone should run.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Rippley05:
Not much. Some visual changes, app redesigns. Overall, even tho people will claim it's much faster and smoother, it won't be all that much different.

It's still nice to have a few visual upgrades tho.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] CyberZion:
And the reason for the lack of visual change is TW. Come on Sammy, give us a AOSP "Theme", that we can choose if so desired.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
Updated dates a little if I missed any let me know (in 1st post)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
My friend got lollipop 5.0 update yesterday on his sprint galaxy s5
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] chamberc:
Should be coming week of March 30.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] richrcp:
Update for the Note 4

:(

Looks like it will be a bit longer this this time frame folks. Spoke to a VZW tech today and was inquiring why my flagship Note 4 still was not blessed with advanced calling 1.0.

After about 10 minutes of searching his resources he advised me that advanced calling & lollipop 5.0.1 would arrive mid May. He also stated that advanced calling would actually be 2.0 by the time we received it.

Samsung does tend to favor the S line & I just hope the issues with the VR device & the GS6 launch dosen't push us back any further?? Oh well!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
One person by accident got lolipop on g3. I don't think it will take this looks long til may. No way.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] richrcp:
Note 4 updates

In all my interactions with VZW over the past 8 years they rarely give solid dates but when they do its close! I hope the information he was quoting was exaggerated!:(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Matttrix:
Ive also heard May in repprts. That other updates will also be in the package (of course not android 5.0.2 or 5.1) as well. It was in a couple Facebook forums I was in thats closed group.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bsweetness:
If you've been around Verizon and smartphones for long, you'd know that Verizon techs and reps who interact with customers rarely know anything about upcoming software updates or new phone releases.

The members here almost always know far more than they do.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
A verizon tech seriously won't know the date. Just like no one expected the s5 update as well :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] richrcp:
Note 4 updates

:fingers-crossed:

Look folks I agree in most cases the verizon techs dont have the best information to provide. This tech was referencing a document from Samsung to verizon with the specific timeframe. look I hate it as much as the next Note 4 user but it seems valid! if I am wrong i owe you guys a cup of coffee.:fingers-crossed:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
Good lol I will remember about that coffee [emoji14]
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bsweetness:
Based on the entire history of Verizon and the knowledge of their reps and techs, it's very unlikely that a tech who works in customer support would have such a document and would reference such a document to a customer. If customer service reps and techs had that document, many people would be reporting the same information and the actual document would be widely available by now. ;)

As will I. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] guthrien:
With root not on the horizon, May for lollipop would be about the biggest teeth kick combo I've had in android. Love the phone but it's simply hampered by little issues. I hope this leaner TWiz is a reality, that would make a gigantic difference to me. I cannot do a Verizon / Samsung combo again though, so frustrating.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Jweimn:
I will say from being within the industry that the carriers do not give their employees documents like that at all.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] topherkey:
advanced calling is pointless

Just came from the turbo. Advanced calling on that was pointless. Only worked half the time. Finally got a fix for it and then it jumped up to 75% of the time. Entering numbers on that system was beyond frustrating. Would hit a number once and the system would hear that I hit it multiple times. Don't feel left out by not having advanced calling 1.0.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
I don't think many people care about VoLTE, they just want Lollipop.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Delakit:
Correction. People want: a smooth device (no lag) that is customizable - like a PC - since we spend loads on the devices. Root has been the only thing allowing seemless customization and performance improvements, among other things.

Having to buy a developer edition is ridiculous. Having to put blood, sweat and tears trying to customize a device we now own is even more ridiculous. Not that this is anything new to anyone. I purchased my device with the knowledge that we'll never get root.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Android_Fr3ak:
I will start out by saying that I want root as much as anyone.

However, to play devils advocate, is it really ridiculous that they make it so hard to obtain root? Root opens doors to allow things that are not supposed to be allowed. AD away? Has the potential to take away money from developers. Free hot spot for unlimited data? That is not the way it was designed (although I think it might be the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You pay for the data. Shouldn't matter how you use it). There are also many devious app you can get to do bad things. Such as hack into someone's internet connections and obtain passwords and logins.

I hear what your saying and trust me, I want root. But I can understand why they have a tendency to make it difficult.

All I'm saying is
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
I'd like to know what this thread has to do with root lol?

it was general discussion about avaibility of lolipop on note4 lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gottahavit:
Would you ever buy a PC or laptop that wouldn't allow you to uninstall bloatware, or locked down the hosts file so you couldn't add your own entries?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] topherkey:
Of course. I read earlier that people were upset that the note wasn't volte enabled. I really want lollipop too. Love it on my nexus 9, was going to get the nexus 6 but I needed the stylus for work. I realized that only after I left my note 3 for the turbo.

Have tried to de-samsung this phone as much as I could but the ART runtime should fly on this.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
ART runtime yes flies on this thing but on 4.4.4 it optimizes about 100+ apps on each boot,with lolipop it will be fixed and also I do care about VolTE and I am kinda pissed Note4 does not have it..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] xxVAGRANTxx:
I can't believe they release phones nowadays without VOLTE it's not new feature. So stupid Imo.

Sent from my SM-N910V using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SOTK:
Gotta say, from videos I've seen, I'm not impressed with lollipop on the Note 4...visually I mean. At the very least though, I am hopeful that we'll feel underthehood improvements although I'm not really complaining. So far, the Note 4, for me at least, has been a surprisingly fairly stable smooth experience. That's saying a lot since we don't have root and I personally have never not had root on android.

One of the biggest performance issues I've noticed (lagging) is waiting for the gallery to open after I've clicked on it within the camera app. In fact, I've noticed a few camera related lags such as this. It's doesn't seem as polished (the software) as it should be. I've also had my contacts app randomly close (force closes). Other than these couple of things, for the most part, it's been okay as I've said.

At any rate, I am hoping that stuff like this will be dealt with, but as I started out saying, it would be nice if we were to see some more cooler visual improvements.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] sirrkitt:
If you paid full price for your PC? Then yeah, that would be ridiculous. If someone else paid for half your PC? Then no, they're more than entitled to make their money back before its yours to modify.

It's like, you wouldn't lease a car, spray paint it black and throw a custom stereo in it.

Now, for those of us who have paid our phones off or have finished our contract terms, then yeah, I think I should have a say in unlocking my bootloader and rooting my damn phone and doing what I want with it.

._.

Man, this is so frustrating. The AT&T one supports HD Voice, so no clue as to why ours can't. So stupid! It's not make it or break it, but if a stinking $40 Boost phone can get HD Voice, I don't see why we can't have the equivalent of that feature baked into our top-of-the-line monster phablet.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tinpaul:
Lollipop next year, not this year, that's my opinion.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nbock01:
I am having the exact same issues. I found that keeping a lower amount of photos on the sdcard seem to help the gall issue. Seems to be rebuilding the cache before it launches the app....

Also the contact app has stopped. havent figured that one out yet... but annoying...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
I don't see us getting Lollipop before April.

I tried ART on this phone and it sucks. Takes forever to boot, and several apps take a long time to load, like FB, and they tend to crash...

The problem is the stupid VR Gear, that nobody is gonna buy anyway... they are having issues with Lollipop and that, so it is holding us back from getting it till they get that working... Which is asinine...

Let's see, inconvenience the million people who already bought the Note 4, or inconvenience the couple hundred kids that might actually buy the VR Gear headset...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
Makes no sence Galaxy S6+Edge runs on Android 5.0.2 and Gear VR works. They did say it was only for these 2 phones maybe it's a different version.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
I don't know, the VR Gear thing is just what I read... That they were having problems with it and as it needs the Note 4 to work, the Note 4 was being held up as a result...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mademan420:
They aren't running the Snapdragon processor combined with being able to run Gear VR is the reason. Some Note 4 international models already have lollipop but none of the Snapdragon models have it yet, I dont believe...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
Makes sence.. now lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bsweetness:
The issues with Android 5.0 and the Gear VR have been resolved. Lollipop has been rolling out steadily to international variants of the Note 4 for a couple weeks now with full Gear VR functionality (including both Exynos and Snapdragon variants).

The Lollipop update for the U.S. models is probably already in the hands of the U.S. carriers or will be shortly.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
So, another month for VZW to bloat it up, test it and start pushing it out the door...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bsweetness:
It's been officially released for the Snapdragon variant in Germany.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mademan420:
That GREAT NEWS then! :p I stopped researching the issue a few weeks ago since I knew we weren't getting it anytime soon:(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
HTC M8 is supposed to get 5.0.1 today.. samsung is really trolling us..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
Very disappointed... I thought for once that I was on a flagship phone that would get some sort of priority...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ballisticn8:
T-Mobile is starting to roll out Android 5.0 to the Note 3 now. Verizon gives me the lulz. If I couldn't laugh about it I'd scream and rant in frustration. Oh well. We'll get it when Verizon is ready to give it to us.

Clicky...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
Ye I just read it and updated OP. Samsung is really pissing me off-_-
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ballisticn8:
I highly doubt it's Samsung's doing. I'd place blame on Verizon. Only way shape or form I'd place blame with Samsung is for not buttoning down and telling Verizon I if you delay releases for premiere devices you won't get our products next year. Think we'd be waiting for lollipop while the T-Mobile note 3 is getting it if it wasn't Verizon controlling testing and bloating everything?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ChadH42:
You have expressed our situation perfectly.

Sent from my SM-N910V