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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] eagle 1:
I tried to install this on my Athena (HTC Advantage version) and it made the device unstable. It would not consistantly show on the today screen. It just usually was blank. And the other items on the today screen would just constantly blink or act like they were updating. I have Marsware Weather panel - version 2.5, Spb Pocket plus - version 3.2, Spb Pocket Diary - version 2.5, Marsware news reader, Marsware Time. I removed the today pluggin, but then couldn't figure out how to get to the app. After several soft resets, it appeared in the tray of the today screen. Unfortunatly, Not all the icons did much. Reset a few more times and was able to to set home location. But after not much else. Had problems with my connection all day removed it and worked fine. Went to comm mgr site and downloaded CommMgrPro_V0.9.0.25_Theme_SkizZO_VGA version and tried again. Keep loosing my 3g and/or gsm signal. It would randomly loose the signal and then search for a few minutes. (nothing else running) Removed and connection was stable in the same place.. So it must be a conflict with my apps or the athena. Other apps i have loaded are AOL mail, Exchange push, several games., adobe reader,sprite backup, sktools, tweaks2k, jetcet print, nero mobile, sling mobile player, MS One Note Mobile, Resco keyboard, Resco explorer, TomTom 6, and the usual WM5 Apps. Weird it worked fine on my hermes.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Wrote down.

Thanks Mickey
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Thanks Eagle. There is a known conflict with spb pocket plus. I dont remember the page but there are 3 or 4 pages in this thread dedicated to Pocket plus. CMP can receive events from scripts like ...."switch to 3g, close connections,....". I dont know why but spb pocket plus uses a similar system and turns crazy CMP because It get commands from pocket plus. It is under study. In the meantime could you do a test? Please format database.(menu/data/format) and restart. Loosing signal (really is switching from bands) is tipically when option "On AC then Full Power" selected and then cmp receive events constantly "AC on, AC off, AC on, AC off". In this way cmp switches band constantly resetting radio (and loosing signal for half minute)

Thanks :)

ps: Lost icons in today plugin isnt related with pocket plus (I ve athena too) and is being fixed
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Its already in my list.

Thanks :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Fixed issue of missing icons. Now if cmp cant detect the status of some device (wifi, bt, speaker) then appears a admiration icon. It cmp isnt started all devices appears in this way. When cmp is started all icons recovers their status.

dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmalberto:
Daniel - have you or anyone else been able to repeat this? I am kind of lost on this one as I know I used to be able to start the app after EXITing. Perhaps it may have something to do with the Today Plugin since IT(the plugin) may be getting confused since the ENGINE(CMP) is no longer present.

--Mick
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Dont worry Mick. The problem is detected and I am fixing it. (weird, It doesnt happens in emulator)...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Its related with the today plugin. If you disable it and reset device then you can exit and start cmp without problems. I am fixing it. If It is a problem for you I can upload a "alpha" version with this issue fixed. I say "alpha" version because I am testing "on exit" actions. It seems to work correctly but I usually test each new feature some days.....

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmalberto:
I would say I am ok unless there is something that you want me to test for you. Having to reboot is not neccessarily a BAD thing but is annoying at times. Just knowing that it is a bug and not just a feature with my device is comforting to hear.

--Mickey
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Ok. You can try Alpha version then.

IMPORTANT

1) Uninstall cmp.

2) Reset device.

3) Install new version.

4) Reset again.

This is the safer way....

Notes:

1) Its compiled with "Release Mode" so exe file is half size and faster than before.

2) Now you can exit and start cmp without problem (I guess).

3) Actions page has been removed

4) Two new pages.

On Enter: Actions to be executed when entering a place/schedule

On Exit : ........ .......... . exiting ........................

Remember is "alpha version" but You can help me to test it, if you want.

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
Installed.. one thing:

before i've set a default timeframe for unknown location, which have determined settings..

What happen if i leave a place and, 4 example, on exit profile the speaker is "VIBRATE" but unknown location is "ON" ?

i hope i have to set the nochange icon for all the features into the unknown location, in this way it should be ok, but what happen if i leave the default unknown timeframe as it is now? (just to know if you've thought to the problem)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi folk.

Wait a minute because I was uploading cabs again because menu in actions pages was disabled.

Referred to your question.

1) Before: exit actions are executed. So speaker is set to vibrate.

2) After: Enter actions are executed so FINALLY speaker is set to ON....

Dani.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Ok, I ve upgraded cabs of previous post....

I continue studying why sometimes, when cmp is exited then cant start again until soft reset...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
I hope i'm not explained well...

If i leave a known location with an exit X exit profile, which is different from the "On enter" Y profile of an unknown location.... what does the app?

maybe you've already answered, but i've not understood.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hehe. Sorry, You know my english...:)

When there is change of location or schedule.

1) First is executed "on exit actions" of the place/schedule being exited.

2) Later (one second later) are executed the "enter actions" of the new place/schedule (if any).

Dani.

ps. I ve reupload installers in previous page
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
...your english is good, bad is my head!

so if i have two different application started by the x and y profiles.. they will be runned... all into 2 seconds

ok, i'm a bit unsure of this "method".. maybe switch the "on enter profile" of the unknown cell at THE SECOND unknown consecutive cell found can be a solution...

For now no problems so it goes good :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Finally I found the problem of restarting cmp. I was caused when CMP was starting and there was a connection opened. Its fixed. Its a important issue so I am creating a official V26 and I will upload it to www.commmgrpro.com in some minutes....

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Ok, version out in www.commmgrpro.com

Version V0.9.0.26(2007-05-16).

1) First time CMP is builded in "Release Mode": Exe file has half size and is faster.

2) New concept. Actions to be executed when exiting a place/schedule. When exiting place and entering place are known places/schedules FIRST are executed

exiting place actions. After are executed entering place/schedule actions.

3) Fixed a bug that did cmp dont start if there was some connection active.

4) Fixed a bug in today plugin. When CMP finished today plugin didnt recover until soft reset.

5) Please uninstall previous version. Then reset. Then install this version and reset again. This is the safest way to avoid problems with today plugin.

6) This version has many changes (more internal than external). Please report any bug or malfunction. Thanks :)

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tony.wheeler:
Dani,

Thanks for the efforts:) . Installed on my Vario II (Standard T-Mobile UK WM5 build) OK but had to install onto main memory because it would not run when installed into Extended ROM - but only tried twice. So far OK and will report back with any problems.

A couple of suggestions and some observations:

- Disable the close (x at top right) so those of us with that have set this to actually close an application cannot mistakenly close CMP. Most people would not normally wish to close CMP so just making this command available from the menu alone would be better.

- When running the Today plug-in make the normal CMP icon (bottom right) not appear at all - it simply is not required if the Today plug-in is in use.

- When a Today plug-in icon is selected it would be better if the actual icon selected brought up the relevant CMP screen for that function. For example: if the BT icon were pressed then take the user straight to the screen where he is asked what change to BT is actually required.

- Why not add full profile selection from CMP? You effectively allow us to select all the things normally associated with a profile but it is not possible (?) to force a particular profile definition independant of location (LAC and Cell ID). You could allow us to select already defined "places" as profiles manually rather than time or location dependant. This could simply work as a manual selection to force a particular set of "on-Enter" commands to be executed. When a 'profile' is selected this way the word "manual" could be displayed both on the Today screen plug-in and on the main screen of CMP.

- Very Minor - when using the choose image (icon) screen the bottom row is partially obscured so they cannot easily be seen, a vertical scroll bar would also help with landcape mode (and it might look better if all the images were centered on screen rather than left-aligned)

- Minor - When on the Choose image screen the "cancel" command (soft key bottom left) does not work.

- Minor - Today plug-in. This seems to be refreshing every so often and this causes the today plug-in to 'flash' which does not look good.

- On Enter & On Exit Screens - I cannot find a way to delete something entered here Dani! Suggest press and hold pop-up with delete (or even add/edit too?)

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmalberto:
Cool - so far so good(I can stop and restart CMP). Looks like you have the "hooks" for call forwarding and other events.

You may have to explain what EMAIL and SMS actions would be for.

Thanks for the great work.

--Mickey
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi tony. Thanks for your suggestions :)

1) Good idea.

2) You can disable tray icon in options page. There is a check button for that.

3) yes. good idea.

4) You can force a manual selection of a profile selecting place button(big centered button with image place) and then select "chain button". Then appears a dialog with all the availabe profiles. Then you can choose one with or without time limit. In this mode changes of location will nof affect the chosed profile until you unlock it using "unlock button". But I think It isnt intuitive because many people doesnt know this feature is available. But yes, of course, you can select manually any profile like in PhoneAlarm, spb....

5) True

6) You can delete action on Actions pages selecting a action and then selecting left button in popup dialog (uggly button, waiting for skizzo image :)). It makes disappear that option....

7) Refreshing today. Today icons are refreshed when there is any change in bt, wifi....and cell or lac. Maybe I should update each 10 or more seconds.....even if there are many changes.....

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi Mickey. Those features are being developed but I had to upload the new version since you discovered the "start cmp bug" :o and it was a very important issue.

Sms and mail will allow you to send sms and mail like actions...

Data logger page is being developed too..

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Recordatory:

Recordatory:

Some people has mailed me with this question: why the cells associated to a place grow and grow (in lac mode) without adding them.

The answer is that in LAC mode all the cells that CMP founds in that LAC are automatically associated to the place where the LAC belongs. Its what I called weeks ago "Intelligent LAC Mode". This feature was requested one month ago for somebody. If you think It can be a problem I can put a check box to do it optionally.....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
Uhm!! i've missed this feature!!! this is why i was having *A LOT* of cells to my home location...

so it's an auto-learning feature :D

...make in a way that, when installed, is selected CELLID and not LAC, because if someone forget it... all the cells will be added to home location (as my case)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
You are right. Just changed default value to "Cell Mode" :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tony.wheeler:
Dani,

Thanks for the tips. Let me know if I can help with an instruction manual for CMP - there are indeed plenty of features that I am sure many people do not know of. If you have a template for the manual I'd be happy to start work on something to assist.

I think you meant "Lock button" rather than chain but I worked it out. Perhaps a better way to get these features would be:

- on place button press bring up 2 (large) text options: "Add/Change" and "Select Profile". The Add/Change would take the user to the CMP Main window where schedules and actions (etc) can be changed and where places can be added. The "select profile " selection would take you straight to the "select place" screen where the lock does now.

Suggestion: on the "Choose Place" screen perhaps it would be good to provide a fixed icon/image to allow the user to set the mode of operation to location dependant (LAC/Cell ID) - perhaps identified by "Auto" to denote auto selction of profile according to location.

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
I dont have any template but It would be nice if you could start a little english guide. Your suggestions about buttons are nice because 4/5 users doesnt really know what they do...

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmalberto:
I haven't seen a compelling reason to use LAC as CELLID gives me more granularity doesn't it.. or is it just because of the different GSM carriers?

--Mick
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tony.wheeler:
Dani,

I'll look to put something together starting this weekend. I have the simple text (instructions) file from your web site but do you have any more text on all the features?

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Dont worry. This weekend I will describe all the features, buttons, menus....and I send you it....:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Well, In very very concentrated citys (like Madrid) a single point is under 8 or 9 cells but only one lac and this one covers, more or less, 250 square meters so is easier to use lacs. What I usually do is to set lac mode when I register a place. It assigns automatically the cells inside the lac to the new place and when CMP is "trained" then I switch to Cell Mode to gain more granularity, as you do.

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bigdriver4u:
I'm back trying this again.

Daniel,

I had all but given up on .25 working on my system. I finally was able to get it to install and had the today's plug in working. Soon after , the text on the screen became blury and the 8525 became unresponsive. I uninstalled and went back to old faithful, Band Switcher, which works in wm5 and every wm6 rom tested todate. I even experienced some type of memory leak when uninstalling the .25 version. I would watch my literaly go from 24mb to 2.1 mb in less than 5mins. I found the problem was caused by still having a reference in the startup to the CMP but the product was removed. Anyways, I'm hoping .26 will work for me. I really like the product and have been following your work for a while.

Faithfully

bigdriver4u
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi.

Hope V0.9.0.26 works better for you. NO memory leaks in latest version have been reported or detected by any memory leaker debuggeer tool. If you have the memory problem again please verify the "memory eater process" :D is commmgrpro.exe and in that case please tell me and I will try to discover the problem.

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Ixtana_ran:
Hello Daniel, using app on Wizard works great, occasionally doesn't load, but thats because it installed on storage card. No big deal as it doesn't happen to often, will probably install in main memory now its shrunk in size.

Any way my question is the today plug in just opens the main app, when a icon is pressed. I have to run it in SPB mobile shell as the plugin isn't available any where else. (something to do with to many other plugins available on today screen, only a couple used)Would it be possible to have the main program in a tab in mobile shell?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi.

I dont use Mobile shell but I will install it (because many people use it) and I will try to find a way. I dont know how spb shell works but I will try it......

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tony.wheeler:
Dani,

I use Spb Mobile Shell and think this would look good integrated within it. However, the skin will need to be simplified because the available screen area to work in is very much reduced - the screenshot below indicates the available space. I would suggest that you would need to develop a kind of Today-plug-in "skin" that goes someway to provide CMP main window functionality. An excellent example of this is achieved with phoneAlarm (pA) where it integrates with Mobile Shell very well.

This is the Today plug-in integrated into Mobile Shell. If you are going to provide a better today plug-in then the approach may be to adopt a form of skins approach (like pA) that allows us to create our own skins. You would also need to provide direct access to the functions just like they are available on clicking the icons/images on the main window of CMP. Only with this kind of 'on-click' functionaility would it be of much use integrated to Mobile Shell. This is the screenshot:

As far as I can see there are no issues with this integration - it's just that CMP does not do a lot in this mode where the Today plug-in might normally be hidden fom view. The advantage would be on providing direct access to CMP profiles and management of the comms suite.

For completeness here are some more shots that will show what can be done.

This is the default pA skin in Mobile Shell. It leaves unused space and the buttons could be larger to ease finger press activation, so I created this skin myself (called mobishell):

All the functions are there and are easy to press with a finger. The house image is the "profile" selector and when pressed looks like this:

The profiles are easy to select.

The latest similar application is Spb Phone Suite - that looks like this: click link to view (can only post 4 images).

Hope this helps - there are plenty of ideas here that might be taken forward with CMP to make it that killer app.

Regards
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
:) wow. Nices ideas. Now I have two open works. On one side continue adding actions to CMP engine. This is, call forwarding, sending sms and mail, cpu mode and many other good actions. On other side I ve to work in "usability" (I dont know If Its the correct name in english). I mean do the user's life easier. It includes more intuitive dialogs, direct access to features and do a "real" and interactive today plugin. Current version(plugin) was done only to allow users to see cmp info taking a look to today page. I will work in both jobs at same time and fixing bugs, of course. Final objetive is to let CMP (after same training) manage the device (almost)automatically according to our needs. ahhh, other thing I am working is posibility to assign a profile to a calendar item, with posibility of time limit. In this way cmp not only advise about happy birthday but It could send automacally send the mail, sms......Well, many ideas, I know..:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Ixtana_ran:
Thanks Tony, you've read my mind, a lot clearer than my post.

And THANKS Danni you're english is a whole lot better than my Spanish, keep up the great work you are doing, a really useful program.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
There's a fact that can confuse (i was confused for 2-3 mins):

When you switch between Schedule and on enter/on exit tabs, the place into the upper left dialog shouldn't go back to home.. is nice also if the timeframe is mantained (between enter/exit profiles)

If it uses the current location by default during switching, make in a way that it's showed only at the first access of one of three tabs, because re-organizing a place is confused & need A LOT of screen taps.

Ps: icons in progress

...icons finished.. remember to configure the skin file also for custom_ov, and overwrite all the files (custom.png is changed, because i have lost the psd :emb )
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
yep, you re right. Wrote down.

so then icons for edit, delete. And, maybe by now we could change image for lock place....maybe with the text "select profile" or something similar. What do you think?

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
...icons added to the previous post.. while i was posting i've seen some problems and i've spent some time on they...

however i see thet the lower text isn't aligned well, it's late now, i'll fix they tomorrow in the morning (i have already fixed & exported all the times manually 6 images for 4 times.. stop for now..)

Ps: Ok for the lock icon...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
They are nice skizzo. what about the "select profile" icon? :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
Ok, here are the fixed icons... and also profile icon :D

..remember to:

-delete the Lock_on / lock_off / lock_ov icons .. :D

-edit the cx&cy for "lock/profile" pressed image

-edit the custom time pressed image

ops, i've forget to delete thumbs.db... 162.7kb was a strange size..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
thats what I call fast. Thanks :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SkizZO:
and what do you think about this layout??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] El Philou:
Schedule Yes but...

In first time, Nice Soft !!!

Schedule it's a good idear, but with days of week , will be better ;-)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
yes, that feature is in "to-do" list and will be ready very soon
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Yep, good idea for QVGA and VGA resolutions in Portrait mode. Changing.....:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
SkizZO Icons included. Looks nice. Thanks :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] danielherrero:
Hi.

All images dialog (Select profile, select image for place....) have been replaced by dialogs with scroll bars and more space. It will allow to square devices users to see all the images and the posibility to include much more images.

Dani
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmalberto:
Priorities with controlling volume?

I run(and I am sure this is the cause) Phone Alarm and CMP side by side. PA has some features that aren't replicated in CMP. CMP strengths are performing actions based on locations and not neccesarily based on time. I say this because one would have to create these same actions in all PLACES to enforce an setting/action at a particular time...For example, you might be in any of lets say three places during a particular time frame.

So I am attempting to exploit my location on Sunday's when at church. I wish to force the VIBRATE setting. I noticed yesterday that the phone was in vibrate according to CMP but PA had normal volumes(phone, inbox, messaging) for the default profile. I received a text message and of course it beeped.

So my challenge is to find a way keep CMP in control/priority since it knows where I am. I will scratching my head as I am building a very complex sceneriou.

--Mickey