yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] blu8503:
Yea the idle drain on this release blew me away. It's nice to pick up my phone this morning after being off the charger with light use and about 4 hours sitting idle and still be at 94%.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] simms22:
out of curiousity, whats your battery life like? i did have my n6 reduced in cpu speed for a few days, until i realized that i, getting the exact same battery life with it reduced as when i didnt reduce it.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] HdMsTrTeCh:
I agree and if you have a hotrod why not let it rip?

This goes out to everybody; For those who like being in the "balanced" or "performance" range and not squeezing every ounce of longevity on the battery, are there better settings than stock? Though I do know how to enter scripts and use a terminal but was hoping for easy through FKU.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] wrongway213:
Performance profiles in FKU. Go into FKU --> performance profiles and switch from balanced to performance.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] simms22:
:laugh:

really, the screen drains the most battery, and phone calls, unless you have misbehaving apps. so all i do pretty much for battery is keep my screen brightness very low, which my eyes appreciate. and i dont make many phone calls per month(i average less than 100 minutes usually). and misbehaving apps i take care of right away usually. other than that, i always run the highest cpu speed thats available, like 3033mhz with elementalx, and i still see 5.5-6.5 hours screen on time. but, also my signal quality is in the awesome range, so i see less battery drain because of it.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] :
So your setup is highest cpu speed for max, lowest for min, and all four cores on at all times correct? Or are there any other settings you have? I want to try them out and see how good of battery I can get
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] simms22:
conservative/deadline, fsync off, and thermal throttle disabled as well.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] SmokeyMon:
I second this. I was under clocking as well. Given my particular use I noticed that I seldomly use the highest frequencies anyway. Now it scales so efficiently, I found the savings to be negligible when i first started comparing at r9. But essentially I just let it "eat" as it wants now.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] casonswag:
This works on cm12 right?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] frenchy714:
Yes.

I pooped my pants once, it's a long story....
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] simms22:
at 2956mhz high and low. at 3033mhz, i cant finish an antutu, but every other benchmark runs fine, and so does regular use :eek:
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] mouse100:
With my very intense use I can reach 5hrs of SOT with vomertweak. Without it only 3.5 hrs.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] papikev:
Is there a way to adjust the sensitivity of the double tap to wake feature? To me, seems to be a bit unresponsive at times.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] simms22:
odd. since im a heavy user as well, but set my max usually to 3032mhz(or 2880mhz), i normally see around 6 hours sot. but my data/phone service is awesome as well, so it saves me some battery.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Johnny424:
anyone else having issues getting voltage to stick through a reboot? every time I set it with fku then reboot, go back into fku and the voltage has returned to stock. maybe a uninstall and reinstall I'll try next
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] slysir:
R10 is giving me over 7 hours SOT. default settings no tweaks.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] holeindalip:
Do you even have service?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] dan04103:
I'm at 4.5hrs and still have just under a quarter battery left. I've been playing marvel puzzle quest and cytus a bit today too. Excellent results on my end. Could NOT be happier.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] slysir:
Day of rest for me. Stayed home on WiFi. Did a lot of reddit and tapatalk , YouTube, news and email.

This is just for my reference. It's about an hour more than my best SOT on r9.

It only shows that r10 is good at battery life
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] dan04103:
Pics
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] michmeister:
Seriously
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] holeindalip:
Maybe its the ROM he is using but on stock signal bar will be slightly Gray in back of the white, am I wrong?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] MiPaDo:
Can I use this on stock encrypted 5.0.1?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Yes.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] chuck24:
Are there any recommend settings or just flash n go?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] trickster2369:
Flash and go. Nothing wrong with the default settings.

Sent from my SinLess Shamu
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] anuragvivek93:
What's this happening.. What is this wakelock which is sucking my battery up
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] big_adventure:
The display? Wakelocks that are problems are things that prevent your phone from entering deep-sleep when the phone should otherwise be capable of entering that state. Having the screen on is going to devour battery - Moto made a really nice phone here, but either they clearly didn't get the most efficient AMOLED displays from Sammy, or they just aren't capable of integrating them as efficiently as Samsung does.

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Generally about r10: I had a very slow day yesterday. But the first 8 hours of use on r10, using all default settings, with one hour of screen-time, consumed only 16% of battery, and slept 76% of the time. This is mostly downstairs at my place, where signal is pretty questionable. r10 seems extremely nice to battery in light use. Well done, Franco.

I did see one potential bug, but I couldn't diagnose it at the time. I was in a park with one of my kids, and the sunset was beautiful, so I pulled the camera to snap it. And I got a "Could not connect to camera" error. I went to multitasking and swiped away the camera app - it loaded fine the second time. I had already used both the front and back cameras after flashing the kernel, so it's definitely not a 100% thing. If I see it again, I'll bring logs back to the party.

Stock 5.0.1, FK at defaults, stock Google Camera app only, in this case, loaded directly from the lockscreen by swiping left.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Ladduro:
Outstanding overnight idle drain on r10. 2% for about 8 hours. Stock settings.

Kudos to you, Franco. bought the app!!!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] 6-speed:
I was hesitant to flash r10 at first because r9 was perfect on my device. But boy am I glad I flashed r10. r10 is a beast! Deep sleep drain is super low, its super smooth, no lag anywhere, and just plain perfect!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] paychex:
Kernel wakelocks won't tell you anything!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] enzoevo:
r10 is super nice. On a lark I enabled all 4 cores. Last night it slept like it was rufied. If I get this kind of battery and performance with all 4 cores on, I can honestly say I no longer need to throttle my phone.

:cool:
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
The Kernel plays no part in that camera thing, that's the old bug on the userspace camera daemon.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] wrongway213:
It sounds like we can all pretty much agree that r10 is the best release yet. I get almost no idle drain on this kernel... like almost every second of idle drain is accounted for by apps or syncs, deep sleep at like 96 - 98% with all syncs and stuff on (no FB app of course). Great work as usual Franco, kernel is really top notch! I think I'm gonna be saving this release for the long haul for when I am out and need my phone on for awhile but won't use SOT (camping, concert, etc) because the idle drain is just... gone.

Those top two are literally just your phone being on.. should match SOT pretty closely.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] mrjs84day:
I'm new to this thread, I've come from a long bout with apple, HTC and then samsung so it's good to see a nice thread and developers being able to actually progress without as much stress. Thank you franco for the kernel.

I saw a few people state that their settings from vomer wasn't sticking once they upgraded from 9 to 10. Mine was doing the same thing so I went back to recovery and reflashed r10, cleared cache/delvik rebooted. once everything came back up, including universal init.d, I rebooted again and it showed that my max was back to the script setting. I hope this helps someone.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] zige:
This is just fantastic! I get about 0.8%/hour battery consumption at idle and i still have all syncs (inclusing example FB, three mail account (gmail and two exhange) etc. many other things).
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] uhguy:
Thread is quiet. Nothing to complain about. What have you done Franco? :D
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] simms22:
come to nyc, play in the fresh snow :)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] stas333:
or to socal and enjoy summer time weather in the winter lol
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] twcobra:
When the whining stops the Dev Sleeps :silly:
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] HdMsTrTeCh:
I've been running all 4 cores and as well have been getting good/great battery. Loving the speed this phone is a beast and kernel is matching thanks FF!

Stock, rooted, flashed r10 only moderate use.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] pr0cl1v1ty:
Is there any special configuration you all are using on r10? I'm trying to find the best battery life and am feeling the short end of the stick. Thanks!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] niv3d:
What ROM do you pair with Franco?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] wrongway213:
A few, lately Dirty Unicorns
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] vomer:
PSA: The VomerTweaks app is out now (both free and paid versions): http://goo.gl/XZQ31b

Forgot to post here... sorry! :good: :angel:
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] stas333:
hmm. im still confused on the tweaks. are they an addition to fku app or basically the same thing?

Thanks
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] vomer:
its a sepearte app - they are a custom set of values different from stock fk kernel values... you can apply them via the vt app
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] comicbookguy72:
Purchased!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] pantmunu:
Man its gon be crazy tomorrow .. But I'm kinda lovin it.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] kergefarkas:
what does dynamic do exactly? i mean how is it different to franco's balance profile?

does it change cpu frequencies as well? doesn't seem to show in fku (here we go again :D)

edit: it seems cm applied some sort of forced performance profiles that mess with any kernel tweak. balanced is the default, but not much info on it. any way to disable their inbuilt thingy?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] benrees21:
Hi Franco!! ;)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] ManHands:
What are your display settings? Level? Adaptive? Ambient?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] zephiK:
Ooooh you look familiar from a previous Nexus device :D I remember the avatar
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] big_adventure:
Figured as much, I just thought I'd mention it. At least I didn't have to reboot to get it back.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] pinoyflayv:
Thanks Bro!

Love your extra tweaks! Loving the Gestures from Flar2! Best combo!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] slysir:
[quote name="slysir" post=58424665]R10 is giving me over 7 hours SOT. default settings no tweaks.[/QUOTE]<br />

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What are your display settings? Level? Adaptive? Ambient?<br/>

Adaptive and Ambient are off. I don't use auto brightness, just keep it set about 15-20%
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] machNex:
r10 - absolutely fantastic. No lags, stutters, fizzles or farts. Aaaand the battery is muy no dischargo.

Thanks Franco :)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] vomer:
it is a set of tweaks to franco's default settings - attempts to save you more battery life without a performance hit :)

not sure on the cm part... there should be a way to disable it...

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Thanks! :) more goodies coming soon ;)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] simms22:
hey, its that chick ;)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] benrees21:
This chick has a Nexus 6 and I'm back on the gravy train lol.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] simms22:
be careful calling yourself a chick ;)

hows it all going, hope that you are doing alright :good:
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] funcrusher:
OMG, I heard that there's a girl in here.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] biggiestuff:
You do have a nasty wlan Rx wakelock. This is something I'm experiencing now and on my nexus 5 but never my moto x 2013 or nexus 7 2013. All the research I've done has help reduce but nothing has helped eliminate it.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] rignfool:
Wrong...

There are no girls on the internet :)

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
That happens on crowded/noisy Wi-Fi networks. At this point in time I was hoping those guys are Broadcom stopped ****ing around with this filtering thing.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] zige:
Lol wtf is that freakim battery life? 0.8%/h idle (deepsleep with all syncs on example Whatsapp, Fb, 3xEmail accounts push, etc.) and even when using this phone it only takes about 8.1%/h when using Chrome, just Facebook, or Whatsaoo etc (not gaming music, videos) so if you calculate fron that you can get freaking over 10 hours od SOT (oh brightness is automatic and slider at ~40%). Lol that's really sick!

Using Bliss Pop 1.8 (1/26 build), Franco R10 ja Vomer Tweaks Dynamic application.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Johnny424:
my phone died right at 5hr sot. fb,calls,text,YouTube,videos in web,can,music,GPS on LTE and 4g 90% of time. WiFi last hour or so before it died.nice
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] sn0warmy:
You may remember that I've been having a hell of a time getting custom kernels to work for me as smooth and lag/stutter free as the stock kernel. I tried some previous settings you recommended but ended up back on stock after they didn't seem to work for me.

However, I've now been using Franco's r10 with all of your above settings all day now and its been flawless. I've had the 4 cores on full time and I haven't found any overheating or excessive battery drain, whatsoever. I think you found the perfect combination of kernel/settings. :highfive:
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] biggiestuff:
So its broadcom WiFi card related? I guess that's why nexus 7 2013 and moto x 2013 don't have that issue. Thanks for the info.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] simms22:
:o

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since i rarely get to 0%(or around), heres my battery stats for tonight at 50%, with all 4 cores on, at 3033mhz/300mhz..
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] dan04103:
LOL! That's what I'm talking about ?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] vomer:
I knew you practiced witchcraft!! No other explanation for my excellent battery life...
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] jadams212510:
Anyone have issues with their screen while using adaptive brightness and setting brightness to lowest setting? I'm running stock-decrypted. I see faint lines/shadows running down the screen.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] wrongway213:
So I have heard it said that keeping multiple kernel control apps is bad as they can conflict. Is this true? If so, is there any way to make them play nice, such as only giving SU privileges to one at a time and denying to the other? Trickster has a few new features I'd like to use with this kernel but obviously I'm not ditching FKU all together..
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] big_adventure:
There in no concrete reason that having multiple apps would be "bad" - you just might have conflicts where stuff doesn't work the way you expect thanks to conflicting settings in two places. If you set a value to initiate on boot in both apps, you might not get what you expect. I would also expect that it would be difficult to support such a setup in case of problems - the first response of anyone would be to uninstall the other person's app to isolate the issue.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] wrongway213:
Yeah I definitely know I can't actively use both apps at once, I was curious as to if there's a workaround, e.g. if denying SU to one app while using the other would work. Or if I would actually need to freeze the other app in TiBu or what... I have seen a lot of people menton in this thread to "use Trickster" to fix certain issues people have, so I'm just wondering if there's a way people are able to use both apps, or if that was always just overlooked when that was mentioned (a LOT of times relating to charging LED, like a ton of times).
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] buggerthis:
Just wanted to say thanks to Franco for the amazing kernel and share screenshots of the best battery life I've ever got. Two whole days of use out of a single charge is ****ing brilliant!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] lethalboy:
R10 running excellent...!!! Just curious.. Anyone here using stock rooted rom w/franco kernel or is everyone using a custom rom lol..!!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] 6-speed:
I'm on stock 5.0.1, rooted of course, running r10.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I'm stock encrypted.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] firewave:
WiFi

Hi,

After investigation, I found that this was an issue with CM12 nightly build. R10 just broke completly my WiFi, with auth_error logged on kmsg.

I just wipe system, and flash CM12, PA_Gapps and SuperSu, without factory reset, and all goes well.

R10 is damn stable and battery looks very nicely so far.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] big_adventure:
I'd just try it. What's the worst thing that can happen? ;)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] githyanki:
Hell yes I want this fixed too.

I don't use my phone too intensively, only about 2Hr SOT per day. I can go 2 days on a charge easily. Perhaps a third, but would probably run out so i don't do it.

At work, I am lucky to make it the whole shift. I usually end up charging by the end of the day.

Tried AFWall to see if it would help, no luck. The only way I can stop the battery loss at work it to turn off Wi-Fi. Unfortunately, the building has horrible reception, so I don't get emails, txt's, or IM's for hours at a time if I do that. :(

Hope Broadcom can fix that **** soon too.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] jadams212510:
I'm running stock 5.0.1 with encryption disabled. I've ran a few custom roms and at this point there are still have too many bugs for me.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] wrongway213:
Probably what I will do. Honestly, though, I felt the need to ask because I have used trickster and FKU at the same time (not for long periods) and never had issues, which is why when I saw it mentioned I wanted clarification as to what those issues might be and if there was a way to avoid them.. stock kernel on my current ROM is actually quite useful so I like to be able to switch on the fly, which FKU is needed for for kernel backup, but intelli-anything needs Trickster or another kernel tweaker to configure it, can't disabled mpdecision, etc. in FKU as it's designed for a kernel where there is no mpdecision.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Ladduro:
Stock decrypted rooted

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Have you tried vomer's chroma?

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The only issues I know of/heard of, is when you change the same options in both...
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] jadams212510:
No but I'll check it out.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] TheySaidWhat?!:
I completely understand you. While stock has unbeatable stability you got to admit - it is pretty barebones. But I guess that's why the bug department is nearly non existent for stock. Nearly.

And if you got a kernel like this one on a rooted stock you virtually add "custom" battery management to the mix anyway :)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] dtroup64:
Using Terminus with r10... and there are Zero bugs. Purrrfect.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] big_adventure:
Stock encrypted here. FK is made for this. :)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] michmeister:
Pure shamu has zero bugs along with Franco's kernel is perfect.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] wrongway213:
I'm gonna have to disagree with this.. stock is a lot buggier than the ROM I am currently running. The only "bugs" that I see are from the CM theme engine, not the ROM.. a lot of ROMs are probably more stable than stock right now.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] firewave:
And if it's not yet the case, it will be in a few weeks. But I'm pretty sure it's the case right now, most custom ROM are damn stable.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] wrongway213:
I wouldn't say most - a lot of the ROMs that are stable enough for dailies are still buggier than stock, or similarly buggy at least. A few of the ROMs on here, not gonna single any out, but a few in particular seem to be optimized in ways that eliminate some bugs that are found in stock or at least lessen them. I definitely agree with you that within the next few weeks this statement will become a lot more true, though - stock will definitely not be the most stable by a long shot.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] ManHands:
Poor [MENTION=1978554]zephiK[/MENTION]. No love for his own rom.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] big_adventure:
I would assume that the only issue would be if you have specifically conflicting settings, or if one or the other tweaker apps was making changes under the covers that contradicted what you wanted out of the other app. In FKU, it doesn't set anything unless you tell it to set it - either manually or on boot - or unless there is some kind of bug causing havoc. So letting FKU hang out won't cost you anything and shouldn't overwrite anything in Trickster. It might get confusing if you try using PAMs though. I'm not saying it would, but if it did, it'll be hard to track.

If all you are using FKU for is to backup/restore the kernel and to auto-flash new ones, well, nothing in it should play with any default settings.

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What is changing in the next few weeks?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] lethalboy:
Running the same setup... :D
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] wrongway213:
Thanks so much, that's exactly the answer I needed. I am just using for auto-flash and backups. Also, look how much has happened in the last few weeks in development - I am just assuming by a few more weeks from now it'll be even better at the rate we are moving.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] zephiK:
lol what?! its my ROM, vomer is just my partner in crime in the early days of learning git.

I know right?! :confused:
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Seriously, who the **** are you?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Seriously, quit trying to steal vomer's work.. :P

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Next thing we know, he'll be trying to claim your kernel too... :P
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] chrisch91:
Franco.kernel + vomertweaks just for me lagging a little bit?