yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] nextelbuddy:
are you using anyting social media wise like FB or messenger?

you were on strong Wifi the whole time. did you stream anything or did you just browse and read websites the whole time?

in the FKU APP are you set to the new Conservative profile?

I have been using the new conservative all day and screen off is perfect... Screen on and it sucks through batter.

I charged it back up and and set the FKU back to Interactive and i saw an improvement with in 30 min with SOT

I dont know what the heck is going on wit conservative... I know Franco tweaked it again but its worse for me now than it was the first go around.

ill stick to interactive since it works great for me.

Sorry to complain Franco just giving my feedback as a user, I understand i'm probably a unique situation like most of the time lol.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] soundwave123:
Franco is there something I can do to help diagnose this issue with WiFi connecting? No rush just feel like a lop asking for help without much info
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Hey flashaholics. Can you try a couple settings for me please. I'm trying to find an even better sweet spot:

conservative

up_threshold -> 99

freq_step -> 10

CPU-Boost

sync_threshold -> 1190MHz

Hotplug control

load_threshold -> 99

Don't jump into conclusions, I just want you to test this and get back to me with some tangible results on battery and performance across Android and between apps. Thanks.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Can you try this boot.img: https://copy.com/2BSgEjOFNKXOrrCt

Let me know how it goes with your Wi-Fi.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] big_adventure:
Testing...
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] pinoyflayv:
sync_threshold not sticking after reboot.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] angieri918:
What is the time_in_state profile good for?? Noticed it in profile settings
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] suku_patel_22:
Have applied these settings. Let's see how it goes.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] wimmetje:
Flashed R6 again, tried R7 yesterday and had a higher battery consumption.

R6 6hours SOT, with R7 4,5 SOT idle/sleep consumption is good but when in use it drains more then R6.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] jodvova:
I have similar experience. r7 drains more. I'm on interactive governor.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] NOUFELP:
I am using many services like gmail, WhatsApp, Facebook, Reddit, Twitter and XDA forum. So these should be syncing in background. Plus I downloaded a few apps during that time.

I am using stock balanced profile (conservative governor). Tried to undervolt but it never sticks for me.. Now will try the new settings Franco mentioned and see if it can get even better.

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Simply stock balanced profile!☺
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] inffy:
Don't know what CM guys have done but now if I flash the newest CM and after flash [MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] your kernel, i'll get FCs with the new Theme Manager stuff.

I guess it's a CM problem, maybe they have changed something considering kernels.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] big_adventure:
I've been running your revised settings for a couple of hours now - everything is smooth and good so far. Games still eat battery like it's going out of style, but that's normal and not much can help with that. Idle-but-syncing still sips battery. Non-gaming use is still easier on the battery. Phone calls don't use much at all.

More judgements later.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] mgear356:
2nd this.. I noticed a drop in battery performance for r7. R6 seems better
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] gamewarden234:
I think interactive still gives me way more SOT.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] uhguy:
Just plugged these in to test today.

R6 and R7 have both given me less SOT than R5 since switching from interactive to conservative.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] paychex:
They use CAF and it was going to split at some point

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I changed the frequency step to 20 and the sample rate to 200000 and I'm getting similar battery to r6. Still smooth.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] wrongway213:
+1 to everyone who had better SOT with interactive governor.. However conservative is still being tweaked so I'm riding it out.. I think things will be optimized better and if not I am sure a switch would be made back to interactive if that's what works and everyone wants.. For now enjoying the smoothness, my battery still lasts all day.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] kelmar13:
I'll try to do this tomorrow if no one gets to it by then. :)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] enzoevo:
I had to drop back to r6. My wifi just would not connect anymore. Tried rebooting, removing/adding APs. Only a restore to r6 helped. Installed r7, no wifi again. Restore r6, wifi comes back. I wish I had a logcat, but I just didn't have time to capture one this morning.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] funcrusher:
Did you try the boot image from the post above yours?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] pr0cl1v1ty:
-I dirty flashed r7 over elementalx newest version and have no issues at all with wifi, now to get extreme battery life! :D
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] cobyman7035:
welcome to the dark side! i too dirty flash over an older elementalX kernel with r6... not sure if i going back to eX...franco + vomer for now lolz
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
People posting about less battery with the latest configurations, you're free to use other settings. I'm still fine tuning what I think is a best experience for you. I still have a couple ideas. I understand that Conservative is really aggressive, but its as aggressive scaling up as it is scaling down. This device is very demanding, I think it's ok to try and find other alternatives. Thanks for the feedback.

It's a bug on my app, that shouldn't be there. Fixed on the next release.

Most likely permissions or SELinux stuff that need to be added to the ramdisk. I can't find any changes on that regard anywhere on their repos, so nothing we can do about it. Let me know if you find anything in the mean time.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] tommy0823:
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION], flashed the boot.IMG on pg.160. WiFi issues are gone. Works like it did on r5. Connects quickly, images load fast, d/l speed is what it should be over WiFi. Thank you.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] inffy:
That seems to BE the problem. I have been digging through Gerrit and girhub but havent found anything yet
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] pughie:
Nice licence plate
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Heldwin:
Hello,

Is it possible to decrease the color saturation of the screen?

I try with RGB cursor but no decrease flashy color. I want try have less flashy color if possible.

Thanks
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] comicbookguy72:
Yes, but I doubt the owner thinks it stands for Franco Kernel Updater, ;)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Thanks for letting me know!

This is an AMOLED display, you can't really go away from a saturated display...
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Heldwin:
Ok, so not even decrease a little damage. It changes me the Nexus 5

On nexus 5 there was the choice of color profiles it seems to me with FKU ?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] kingston73:
You can't really compare the 2 screens because the 5 has a completely different kind of display. Also the 5 has gamma control but the 6 doesn't, at least not yet.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] michmeister:
Can you post the previous settings before the test ones. I didn't save and these new ones are acting weird.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Damon13:
conservative

up_threshold -> 98

freq_step -> 5

CPU-Boost

sync_threshold -> 1728MHz

Hotplug control

load_threshold -> 90
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Define acting weird... there are no settings that act weird, either they are too conservative or still too jumpy for you.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] enzoevo:
Flashed the boot.img over r7, wifi is back.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] michmeister:
Very jumpy. Seemed more jumpy with test settings.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] garylgray:
I guess I'm the only one reporting good things with the new values.

[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION], I definitely notice a change in snappiness, but for scrolling its a tad too much. Sometimes my eyes can't catch up. Could be just old age though. Lol. ?

Battery on the other hand is phenomenal. At this rate I should max out at about 45 minutes SOT per 10-12% of battery used. Moderate to heavy usage with social networking, and music streaming. Screen on fairly low brightness. Great job.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] comminus:
Interesting. I've had a much smoother experience with the test settings Francisco posted . I've witnessed less stuttering when scrolling rapidly or flinging to the bottom of a long page. It's a difficult thing to quantify without measurement, so I can't be certain that it's not placebo, but this seems pretty smooth to me.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Sorry but that is impossible. You probably had stuff going on on your device.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] michmeister:
Think I'll give it another try and more time to fairly judge.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] inffy:
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION]

Here is a log of the Theme Engine/apk crash

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By5TAx9BhakReERNeFAxaWsyZTQ/view?usp=sharing
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] uhguy:
So far, test settings seem a little closer to where battery life was on r5. Definitely the best I've had with since the change to conservative governor. Will continue testing. Definitely appreciate all the hard work you're putting in to make our devices better, franco
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Nocturnal86:
Franco min CPU frequency is still sticking when exiting per app modes. Seems to happen more often now and I have no idea why. I use Clash of clans the most often with PAM and the max is 4 cores 1.0GHz with 300mhz GPU and many times when exiting the app I check Sys monitor and the min CPU is stuck at 1.0Ghz and have to change it manually.

Still testing the new settings you provided for r7 and as far as battery but seems on par so far maybe a little less battery but its to new to tell. Ill be out today on pure LTE so I'll see then. Take this back I double checked the settings and they seemingly weren't the same ones provided so I was running half of them -_- I fixed them and ill test the right setting today.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
The bug exists on the current production build, it's caused by wrong file permissions because I'm trying to read the files using Java. I've fixed it on my local build and I'll be pushing the update sometime today!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] enzoevo:
Wifi dropped and wouldn't connect again. Cycled airplane mode, wifi came back.

I'd include a logcat but can't get tapatalk to attach a file.

Will add one from my PC.

Edit: Added a logcat.

Via my CleanROM Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Nocturnal86:
Thanks man can't wait and glad you have a fix already! That PAM issue is the only thing bugging my experience and setting up PAM all over haha
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] lalew25:
R7 is giving me better battery life than R6 did.

I don't know what'd different, I'm running stock rooted. I haven't even had time to try un-encrypting yet.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] jonnydopemsr:
I applied it this morning and am on Stock 5.0 still. While loading up Clash of Clans, I got a text message and it vibrated for a while and froze the screen then it rebooted. Again loaded Clans and it froze again and rebooted and stayed on the Google boot screen for a bit until I held down the power button. Had to go back to the default settings in order to be back up a running no problems. Just wanted to give ya my feedback. Keep up the great work [MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION]!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] wrongway213:
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] according to CPA Poke from LiquidSmooth adding these SEPolicy commits to RAMDISK make kernel compatible with CM theme engine http://gerrit.liquidsmooth.net/#/c/5348/
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Pushed r8. Make sure you read this commit message to understand what that two step thingy is: https://github.com/franciscofranco/Shamu/commit/15929856385f177036f18cb2475ba7133f483dd7

Ah also that Wi-Fi derp is fixed. Enjoy!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Nacho~:
Yay for fixing the wifi derp!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] eggydrums:
Just flashed! Will report back
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] gambit07:
Flashed! All good so far..
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] pr0cl1v1ty:
Just flashed! Yay I love updates :D
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] jodvova:
Can anyone please explain in Franco's paid app, in CPU settings I have the governor set to conservative but check box is unchecked. Does it mean that it is not set and the current governor can be smth else?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] ManHands:
It means current governor is conservative. If you change it to something else, you'd then check the box if you want it to stick on boot.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] enzoevo:
So are the default values for conservative in r8, what's recommended now?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] zephiK:
The recommended values are the ones out of the box. The developer, Franco can declare what the settings are out of the box.

The kernel is "flash and forget." That's why the settings in the kernel are defaulted.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] enzoevo:
Yes, should have been more clear. He had posted new values a couple of times for r7, I assume those where just for testing.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] aewig:
I've been having issues with file transfers between my computer and my phone as well as from a terminal emulator. I've tried a different PC where I previously had no issue and I also flashed a new ROM. The issue exists when I'm in recovery mode as well. Is that a function of a kernel?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Testingchip:
Flashed R8 as soon as you posted it and wow. Running it with Vomer dual core and amazing so far as far as feel and performance. Waaaayy too early for battery judgement but if it runs like this I will carry chargers... ?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
The recovery uses its own Kernel (most likely stock) so that problem is not caused by FK.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] gambit07:
Haha, my phone is running like greased lightning! :D Also can confirm file transfer over usb is fine for me :good:
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Testingchip:
#gambit07 only problem is when R9 drops I'll be afraid to flash because I may never get this machine tuned back to like it is now. Lol
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] soundwave123:
Franco you are the man. WiFi issues are gone!

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Franco the boot image resolved WiFi issues. Thanks!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] mexiking713:
What's the difference in battery life vs stock? I haven't used a costume kernel in a long time.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] SmokeyMon:
Night and day.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] trickster2369:
Really only one way to find out.

Sent from my SinLess Shamu
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] SmokeyMon:
You know you won't have to. :)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] big_adventure:
I LOVE "costume" kernels!

;)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] cobyman7035:
Gonna give r8 a try… on r6 currently

Via my NeXus™ 6 on Tapatalk⁴
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] jodvova:
Second that, I don't have any lag on WiFi anymore.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] mexiking713:
Took the plunge and even got the donate app. Any tips for using the app?

Yeah its been a while. I was on Verizon so that explains it ?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] cobyman7035:
R8 with vomer tweaks… still jumpy cpus cores…

Via my NeXus™ 6 on Tapatalk⁴
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Krunk83:
Seeing stutter when I unlock the device still. Doesn't happen on stock kernel.

nexus 6
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] rignfool:
I watched your video like 3 times... Saw no stutter...

However... Maybe if you remove the lock/unlock sound that might help...

Or maybe go into Dev Options and make the animation speed faster?

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
And what's the problem? Cores go online and offline based on load. If there's load they go in, if not they go out. Simple. If I was the one choosing I would leave them all online and ditch any attempt to control them altogether, but since ya'll people's mind is formatted to 2 cores online and 2 off that would lead into the 1st XDA War and the amount of time that I would spend educating people that cores being online all times isn't an issue anymore (yeah they hit deeper sleep states properly now even when online) I would be bald about 2 weeks after I do it, and I guarantee you my hair is stronger than a copper fiber and grows faster than Herman Li picks his guitar strings on Through the Fire and Flames.

True story.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] wrongway213:
That vivid imagery.. would never have imagined deep sleep could be achieved with cores online, interesting.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] laureanop:
So are you saying that for personal use you go load_threshold =0 for core management?

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Actually, if I clear FKU data and flash your kernel, are those ALL your personal use values???
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] funcrusher:
I get that on every custom kernel. It's weird. Not on stock, though.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I use the Kernel the same as I ship it, I already said that 10000 times.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I didn't say that. I said the cores, even online, they achieve deeper power states. You know they have several states they can achieve based on tasks bound to them. That is completely independent from the "deep sleep" state you see when using those apps...
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] funcrusher:
What video?

Edit: Forget it, I found it.

P.S. - it's easier to see at the top of the screen near the search bar (if you have the search bar).
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] oak:
I always use kernel defaults. If I am going to flash a custom kernel, I would like to think the dev knows more than me. I know some have special circumstances though.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Krunk83:
Watch the second to last unlock(stutter) and the last unlock(no stutter).

nexus 6
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] paychex:
Franco said it would be. Quick up and quick down

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do it for spite!

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yes
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] kelmar13:
R8 fixed the Wi-Fi issue for me. Thank you sir!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] akellar:
I've seen that the latest fixes wifi issues but is it working on cm with the theme engine?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] bikeryder007:
Ah, the dark times are already upon us where there will be 50 thousand questions about a constantly buggy theme engine.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Skripka:
Worse still...a theme engine that requires sepolicy in the kernel to work. Oi wei.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] oak:
Thanks

Thanks, franciscofranco. R8 seems solid. Have a beer on me - 8B727955U17889621.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] lightsout:
Wait... CM has theme engine running on LP :) Sorry I couldn't resist. I am happy to hear about it though.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] lethalboy:
Got a 64gb nexus 6 today.. Right now I'm rooted and running stock kernel.. But very tempting to try franco again. (Was my favorite kernel on the n5). I think I will run the stock kernel a few days and then switch to franco. Thanks franco for your work :)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] bkdodger:
Congrats welcome to the party.. Don't bother just flash Franco.. [emoji3]

Tap'd by Big 6
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] anthonyg45157:
Agree with guy above me. No reason , flash Franco.. I feel its smoother and the battery life is HIGHLY noticeable

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] ManHands:
Great idea. Then you'll truly understand how much better franco.Kernel is.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] bigdog_nick:
Yup, stock kernel sucks. I ran stock from early November and made the jump to r4 and now to r8. Holy crap! Haven't used franco since my N5 days.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I'm blushing!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] anuragvivek93:
Tried everything.. Vomer tweaks also.. Max juice I can get out of this is 4hr sot at a stretch and 3.5 sot for full day use. ???
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] wrongway213:
Check your wake locks and stuff in better battery stats.. You may have a rogue app. Or do you get poor signal where you live? If its very weak that could be normal..
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] New Rising:
When I use Franco kernel I have that problem where the screen splits and freezes. Anyone else getting this? Thanks
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] cmo220:
It has nothing to with the kernel or any ROM. Some phones have this problem but many don't. It happens no matter what kernel you are on. I have a replacement on the way for this issue. It happened on stock too. A good friend of mine has never seen the issue. It seems to be a hardware issue but who knows.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] New Rising:
I switched to lean kernel because I had the issue with r7 and didn't have the issue again till I switched to r8. Not saying it's Franco just a coincidence maybe....
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] blueren:
Hows your signal strength?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] angieri918:
Do we still need to apply these settings in r8 or should we go with something different? I'm about to wipe data on ur FKupdater so didn't know if I should leave it out what! Awesome work man!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] stas333:
I'm also seeing some stuttering on r8 that I didn't have with r7
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] kergefarkas:
I flashed r8, but to be honest, I don't see any "jumpy" cores. Sure, when the system boots up and I dash through everything to get to FKU / System Monitor all 4 cores active, but come on. That is expected, since all apps and services are registering and loading up. Take 4-5 secs, 2 cores go offline and stay that way.

When I unlock the screen, yes, they "jump" in for a sec. And then offline again. But that could be because I set the min freq to 833MHz, instead of the deafult 1.497 franco uses. So my bad.

On the other hand: I don't have facebook on my phone, nor Messenger, nor any of their... how to put this gently... "less quality focused" apps that run like a gazillion background services. I know most people can't even imagine this situation (not having that shi*t on the phone), but from what I experienced, no matter how beast and to the bone optimized your phone is, fb will cannibalize it anyway. Delete it for a day or two, and I bet all those "jumpy cores" will be gone for the better.