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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
Not exactly... These batteries don't get "memories"... You are quoting old school NiCAD battery stuff from the 1990's...

And I am not saying to plug it in all the time. I use my phone a lot, and typically just charge it at night. On the rare occasion that I am really wasting a lot of time on the phone for an entire day, I might hit a charger for a little bit.

You are asleep anyway, so what's the problem with it being on a charger during that time? LOL

And when the battery is 3 times the size of the phone itself, yes, it is bulky and ugly.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] LunaticWolf:
Yes, but I was referring to charge cycles. You have a limited number of charge cycles, and each time you plug it in, it wears away the total capacity, accelerating the further along you get. Obviously you want to maximize each cycle to get the most out of your battery.

TIL 2x = 3x
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] kevinsbacon:
Does it really matter though? If the battery is no longer good in a year, you can replace it for $25 OEM or half that price for less. And if that replacement battery goes after a year, 2 years will have passed and you'll already be looking into a Note 5 or 6.

IMO, when using our phones, we shouldn't limit ourselves or alter our behaviors to maximize life of parts, particularly if they are replaceable.

I personally leverage all forms of power sources:

1. Use fast charging and plug in my phone probably 5x a day.

2. When flying or on road trips, use external battery packs.

3. Hiking or heavy GPS usage, use an extended battery.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
I've been using Android now for like 5 years, and plugged in my phone every night while I sleep. Not a single phone has had any issues what so ever. NONE!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] LunaticWolf:
At the end of my Epic 4G, I was getting 2 hours of battery life. At the end of my GS4, 4 hours, screen off. Even my blackberry before that went from getting 3-4 days to 1 day at the end.

It happens slowly, don't kid yourself.

As for the Zerolemon, I probably won't pick it up yet, as $60 is a bit much, and I am already getting 2 days off the stock battery. Maybe next fall, when its a bit cheaper and the stock starts to wear out.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
Very well said...could not agree more!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SquireSCA:
And by the time the battery dies you will either have a new phone anyway, and in the cases of most phones where the battery is replaceable, it's cheaper to pop in a new $35 battery in a year or two, than to spend a lot more for a giant ugly brick of a phone...

I haven't had a battery go bad since the old Windows Mobile PDA days, so around 2005 or so...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] domtru:
What if you erased the battery stats?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] XPLAYMAKAX:
Anyone figure out a way to a calibrate the battery stats yet?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
If that monster fits in a suit pocket, you need a new tailor...that suit is too big!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
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As mentioned earlier ...suit jacket also has to fit around my XD-40 holster....lol

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / StarKissed / TWRP 2.8.3.0 trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] eskomo:
Still far too big! No one needs a battery that big. No one.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nnnnr14:
No one probably NEEDS it but I'm sure there's a WANT for it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
I suppose the easiest answer to this debate is.....if you think it is big and ugly and unnecessary...then do not buy one and do not belittle the people that think it is big, useful and necessary. Everyone uses the phone that they purchase in the way that...they want to. The Note 4 is a great phone...enjoy it the way "you" want to.....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fire3element:
You guys make me laugh so hard. "There isn't anyone that could ever need this", hmm........

That's funny cause seems to me that I know a LOT of people around my area that " Need" a capable battery for long work days of use, including my self. If you can really stand there and convince yourself that no one could ever need a battery for their phone that is larger than the one the manufacturer designed... Well I f'n LMAO at you.

Stay in your little box of a world where looking cool and being hip is all there is to life.

"Good luck getting a girl friend with this thing on your hip". That statement right there tells the whole story of why you are even here.

By the way, I am a tradesman, and have had many girls/women hit on me whilst towing this boat anchor abroad my hip. I also have rather large upper leg proportions for a thinner type frame guy, so anything on my hip sticks out even further. I am admitting to the fact that it looks funny on me because of how it sits.

There lies the problem. I DO NOT care how it looks. Life is not a fashion show, and I do not trot up and down a runway in drag while I work.

What is the purpose of a smartphone? It is a utility device, not a piece of jewelry. I intend to use my device for all the functions it was built for and them some. If you can get through a day with a stock battery, GREAT! Wish I had a job that would allow me to not spend 1-4hrs talk time and well more than that in data usage every day that demands more power than a reactor can deliver.

If you think it makes my phone look stupid... Awesome, look the other way. No one cares what you think about MY phone anyway.

Some people just have to hate on something. At the very least, think outside the box instead of the world that only exists in your mind.

This was not aimed at any one person, but to all the complainers as a whole.

Been using my Note 3 and zerolemon for a year now. Could not imagine ever worrying if my battery is going to die on me again. This is 2015 and we still have to be tethered to a wall daily for pocket devices that were meant to enhance life. No thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] XPLAYMAKAX:
This is my 5th cycle charge results... The quick jumps on the second pic are battery pulls to reset the correct percentage left on the battery...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
This is actually a great response. I think a lot of people may work in a corporate setting where getting 10+ hours of screen time just isn't necessary and therefore its hard to imagine needing it (I know I am in that boat). In a case such as yours though, it makes perfect sense to have a huge battery reserve available.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mlin:
Well I'm glad you settled that debate. Did you hear that, everyone? No one anywhere, ever, will need one of these. I wonder why Zerolemon still makes them, perhaps they did not get the memo. [MENTION=980421]eskomo[/MENTION], maybe you could call them and tell them no one needs their extended batteries so they can stop wasting time and money producing them.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] androidlover1977:
I thought you had my old treo 700 for a sec
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] eskomo:
Life is not a fashion show and I'm glad you realize that. But wearing a boat anchor on your hip, like most nerd types that are starving for 3x more battery on one of the best battery devices available today, seems to be a bit excessive. I'm not talking about a slightly bigger battery. This isnt a 3800mah or even a 5000mah aftermarket battery that would slightly increase the size. This is literally a brick. I have used my phone some days much more than 4 hours of talk time and way more than 4 hours of pulling down data and still had battery left to get me through the rest of the day/night till it charged on my nightstand while I slept. Driving home from Florida a week ago with Google Maps Nav running and talking on the phone for, in the neighborhood of 2 hours, with some google searching for random places to stop and eat/rest and the above average use of FB and XDA and reading a few articles on various websites and taking photos every stop it seemed. My battery lasted the entire 18 hour drive with no charging. Now I understand everyone uses their phone differently but the difference between most heavy users is not that much. I personally do not believe there is a daily senario that demands over three(3) times the battery life just to get through the day. There my be a want for this but a flat out NEED? I just don't think so.

Now let me say this. This is a general statement. Obviously there is some scientist or archaeologist out there that needs to have a device running for a few days without a charge because they are going to be 5 days from the nearest plug or backup power source. That being said... its pretty rare that your not somewhere near a power source for a little while during the day. The only time I have ever been in a situation where I can't get to a plug to do a quick 30 min charge have only been when I have either been hunting remotely or camping in the UP of Michigan. Thats it. I don't see the NEED for 3 days worth of full use battery life that comes with a brick attached to it. Kind of the same thing when it comes to cars or houses I guess. Do I need a big house and lots of land? Nope, but I like it. Do I need a fast luxury car? Nope, but I like it.

I see the want(kind of I guess) but not the need for it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nh97103:
I really don't understand why you people are even debating this. If you need/want a bigger battery, that's great. If you don't for whatever reason, that's also great. Why does it matter what someone else needs/wants? It's not like them getting or not getting this battery hurts anyone else.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rgvsdigitalpimp:
I bought one just recently. I've always loved Zerolemon. There's just no way I can comfortably use this phone. I'm 6ft6 and weight 270lbs. Big phones don't look weird on me. But wow this one just takes the cake. Can barely fit in my baggy jean pocket. Even if it fits, pulling it out when it rings is such a pain. I refuse to use a hip holster (never liked those). The power and volume buttons on the outer shell are so sensitive even the slightest touch of my finger or keys and the phone wakes up. I went back to original battery and will use this ZeroLemon only when necessary.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rushless:
Do you have to register this thing as a weapon? :)

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I would like one at twice the stock size, but this is near comically big, but appreciate some like it..

The Note to me is almost too big, so notice the difference.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fire3element:
Eskomo, you obviously live in a desk chair world. Some of us actually move when we work. I can drive anywhere from 75 to 200 miles in a day for work. Most of the time I am in and out of the job in less than 1hr. And on the top of a commercial roof, 115v outlets are almost never available, so forget charging anything. And no, I can not charge it while I drive. I am usually never behind the wheel for more than 20min. And try remembering to grab your phone the 15-50 times you get out of your vehicle is just not gonna work. That doesn't even take into account how much havoc you would wreck on the charging port. It'd be broke in a week.

Oh yeah, I'm a nerd type alright. That's why I play around at dangerous heights with hand tools all day, cooking my brains out in the Texas sun. Nerd for sure...

Just wanted to thank you for making my point. No need for rebuttal, I said my piece and will not be entertaining any more drivel.

Desk commandos... LOL (Dont take it too harsh, I am just poking at you)

On to other news. Thank you OP for the review. I had 2 issues that really bothered me about the Note 3 version. Was wondering if the Note 4 ZL was better.

1st, the battery does not secure in the phone like the stock battery does. If you put the battery in the N3 without the case, the batt falls out of the the phone when you turn it over. The case is the only thing that holds the battery in place.

2nd, the Note 3 ZL case was poorly cast. I have been through 3 of them already, and all have some place where the case halves wont snap together. Usually the bottom right, close to the speaker. Since the case does not snap together all the way around, the case feels flimsy and creaks when moved. Is the Note 4 case more solid? Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] eskomo:
No worries. You are making my point. You obviously have baked that head a little too long in the Texas sun. You spend way too much time driving and climbing tall buildings working with "hand tools" to have time to burn through a stock battery let alone a 10,000mah brick. Honestly I don't really care what you do with your phone. Buy what you want. I still see no need for this battery. Smaller slightly oversized batteries? Sure. This thing? Nope. You did a horrible job of trying to make a valid example in favor of it, btw. And lol @ the desk commando comment. I don't sit at a desk all day sorry. But I also don't bake my head in the sun all day either. I have done well enough for myself so that I don't need to climb buildings in the 120 degree sun. But I appreciate that you do. Someone has to right?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fire3element:
Today has been rather gloomy. Eskomo, you made me smile. Thank you

That is all I have to say :)

Good day
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rgvsdigitalpimp:
Fire, the case on this N4 ZL is secure as can be. It's in like 3 parts. Nothing will pop open or come out. It's just REAL big. And the power/volume keys being so sensitive is an issue for me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] freak2431:
+1

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+1
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fire3element:
Thanks for the info. The buttons being over sensitive is not that big a deal. You can always shave material away to make the buttons on the case less touchy. The ZL for the Note 3 was the other way around. The power button has to be mashed too hard to press the button. I had to add about 3 layers of tape on the phones power button to make it easier. Try taking some sandpaper to the rubber contact point on the inside of the rear rubber shell. Wear it down a little at a time till you get it just right.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Android.Ninja:
Personally I love my homemade extended extended battery. I usually get 34 days of standby and 26 hours of talk time on just one charge.

Of course, lugging around two deep cell marine batteries does get a little cumbersome & heavy, especially when going out on a date, etc. LOL

Just in fun, hahaha
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rgvsdigitalpimp:
Thanks Fire . Imma do that right now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nnnnr14:
This is what I got.. I've had the battery for about 5 days.. Haven't really been cycling it like I should but I figured I'd start today.. It's probably really at 46 of something but don't have time to do a battery pull at work.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] LordRalh3:
Ill never get a phone without a zerolemon.

My question is when did all of you guys become so pathetic and weak that you are unable to carry/hold less than one lb?

When did less than a pound become "heavy" "bulky" or any of that crap... Unless your an 11 year old 75 lb little girl that really shouldnt be an issue???

And i know its hard for you city /office type people that sit in a cubicle or whatever with full signal and a charger but alot of us actually dont live that way.

note 2.5 waiting for D.E. to arrive
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nnnnr14:
So... Is the battery down with the cycling stage when you attempt a battery pull and it still has the same percent?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] EvoTillIdIE:
Damn Brickosaurus
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Jaytronics:
Has any one thought of what happens to the phones or charger plugs? The fact that this battery is so flippin huge means that you potentially plug the device in less overall times. Thus sparing the connector on the phone or charge cable from wearing out so quick. Just saying.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] cleopete:
That battery/case is a cry for help. Put down the phone. The oem battery is pretty good, quick charge is awesome, and nobody watches movies while walking up Everest.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bond32:
I want this battery/case just to have it. No, I don't need it. But it's pretty awesome to be able to go so long without charging...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pallstar:
ZeroLemon 10000 Battery, my take.

I have had this brick on my phone for over a month now. It took 5 charges, but now it is showing the battery levels correctly. I use a 2.1 amp charger in place of the Adaptive charger so it charges quicker without the quick charge setting turned on. It gives me a good 3 days of charge with the heavy use I throw at it. On a daily basis, I skype, S-Pen notes and pics, I take tons of pictures (even had to get a 128MB card) for my work and sometimes turns into my hotspot and dash cam. So, I get to see the benefit of going from a paltry 5 hours on the OEM battery to 3 days clean on the ZL battery. So, yes, I had proper justification for this battery.

The physical aspects of the battery reminds me of some of my old phones of back in the brick days before everyone wanted to go small. The life of the battery also reminds me of those days when it would be a week between charges. On days I don't have heavy use (just moderate since I might be working an office) the charge would only go down 15% for that day. This tells me that if I was not such a heavy user, I might last for a week without charging. Yes, it is heavy, but I use a Bluetooth headset to do my talking. It's no heavier than my wireless mouse. I do use the holster, but there are times when I might not have my belt, so I drop it in one of my pockets. If you are wearing pants that are not skin tight fitting, it should be no problem to pull out of the pocket when needed.

There is no hole for the speaker on the back directly over the speaker hole, but that's because there is a battery in the way. What ZL did though, I thought was ingenious. They made a sound channel that allows the sound to flow out one of the sets of holes at the bottom of the phone. Basically, it pushes the sound out like the Note 3. The sound is still loud. Only problem is, it is right next to one of the mics. So, I get a lot of cut out sound when the other side of a call goes loud if I am using speaker mode. The buttons are wide and easy to press. But, I am not seeing this sensitivity issue people are saying. If you are heavy handed and press hard on your case, then I can see where the buttons can be sensitive.

Access to the ports (S-Pen, Sync, wired headset) are easy and well made. The other issue I have though is for the sensor. If I am checking my heart rate, it feels awkward getting to the sensor panel through the half inch of material.

So, basically, for what I use this for, the ZL 10000 Note 4 battery/case works excellent. I truly enjoy the ability to use my phone and not worry about how much charge I have left.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rushless:
Seems the Hyperion 8000mah with case is a better option since affords over 2X battery life over stock and nowhere near as comically (IMO) bulky. I have had one over three month and the 8000mah correlates to the expected usage for the size. Costs less too. It seems mainly people of giant meaty paws should consider the Zerolemon.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pctech5510:
It's a Brick! Yesssss!!! I personally like it better than the oem style. I have big hands and the case makes it easier to grip the phone without it trying to commit suicide and jumping to it's death. I use my phone for game , fb , messages, music for the gym and netflix for break and lunch time... Not having to charge this thing for 3-5 days at a time is a blessing.. one less thing i have to worry about ... yes All day long!! I had one for my note 3 and will continue to be a customer. Their customer service is awesome if i had questions about the product. ( yes they speak english ) :cowboy:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tbvnz:
I'm going to take the plunge and order this product. As some one mentioned, not everyone is working out of a cubicle or near power sources. I'm a commercial painting contractor and I often work in environments for 8 plus hours regularly. I'm constantly in contact with customers and my other crews in different locales. I don't want to leave my phone, charger or extra batteries plugged into a generator or outlet unsupervised while I'm on another floor, on a ladder or in another area. These items have a habit of "walking" away in these environments while working with other contractors (strangers). I can throw this brick in the holster, connect my bem wristband and forget about running out of juice.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] PhillipS559:
All I need.

Well, I must admit I love this battery and case so far. I just recently bought this phone used, and the battery life prior to the zerolemon was unimpressive to say the least. I bike to school, have work and classes at the college, bike home, and then attend meetings for an outside program. It became very upsetting to not be able to last on a charge for a single days use without plugging it in.

Today, it gets me through a full day no problem, and that is well worth it. Also, I love the size. I was always so worried about my phone while biking and going throughout my day. I love not having to worry about dropping it and it breaking.

+ battery life

+ durability

- size

- weight

All in all it depends on what you are looking for.

+ If you want your phone to last you a full business/school/whatever day this is a great option.

- If you care about cosmetic appearance this is not for you.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] XDetoursX:
Was planning on getting another Zerolemon for the Note 4 as I had it on my Note 2 and it was great, but when I saw that they went to the hard plastic case I started looking elsewhere. I found a 9800mah battery by Kranich that comes with a TPU case like the Note 2 did, but it's better. Fits better on the phone, has little grip bumps on the side which actually do help, and it's a lot better access to pushing the volume rocker and the power button.

I haven't quite finished breaking it in, but so far so good. As seen in the screengrab, it's at 47% and I last took it off the charged 27 hrs ago. It's only been used moderately but still even with moderate use on the stock battery it would die within 8-9 hours.

Still like the Zerolemon, but just letting peeps know there's some good alternatives out there.

Since I can't attache any photos yet, here are some imgur photos (remove the space after the .)

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ghost495:
Hello guys! Please give more your information, using experience abou zerolemon on note 3 sm-n900 on android 4.4.2 and 5 android. How many times of working smartphone and display times etc. Intersting in android 5.

I have this battery . I think that consumption between 4.4.2 and 5.0 is more difference. I want the experience of using zl on kitkat and Lollipop by xda users. Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ODSTZ3RO:
Can some people post their charging routines/battery life stats?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VandersonRL:
I really want one of these batteries
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Phatboyj420:
What up Fellow Bricksters ?

I currently am sporting the Batt/case Combo on my Note 3 and I love it.

I just ordered my Note 4

I only have one question about the Batt/case Combo for the Note 4 before I purchase it.

My Question is does the case come with a screen protector? From the pictures online it doesn't seem to include the built in plastic one like was present on the Note 3 Version.

Just wondering if I'm going to have to buy a screen protector separately or not.

Thanks in advance,

Phatboyj

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ODSTZ3RO:
It comes with a separate screen protector.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Phatboyj420:
Is it Tempered glass or a flimsy film protector?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ODSTZ3RO:
It's a "flimsy film protector."