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[Nexus 6  General] Smallsmx3:
It seems to me that it's in slow Mo right when you hike the ball.... But intentional? Otherwise everything is fine minus the choppy menus on Madden....
[Nexus 6  General] clninja:
You don't read well.. There are other games other than rock star and EA being mentioned. . way to be useless to the conversation though
[Nexus 6  General] msd24200:
Just double checked and BOTH mine are Samsung!
[Nexus 6  General] TheEmpyre:
Glad to Report that Knights of the Old Republic works very well, buttery smooth
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
Im curious how the new ea sports "king of the course" plays. I wanted a nexus but ended up on a note 4 because of back orders on 64gb. The game is very demanding on graphics. Im on level 103 and have unlocked the second course. I have zero lag. It looks amazing on a 4k screen. Would someone check it out?
[Nexus 6  General] Smallsmx3:
It's actually a 2k screen. Same as the nexus 6. It's smaller. So the DPI is higher than the nexus
[Nexus 6  General] myisf08:
Out of curiosity I downloaded and played Madden NFL and the game was lagging during punts, field goal attempts, throws, and receiving. I have a Note 4 and the game plays smooth. My eMMC and DRAM are Samsung. My Nexus 6 is rooted too.
[Nexus 6  General] gmiterek:
I got my Nexus 6 last Friday and I've played SpiderMan Unlimited and still playing and there is no lag at all, the only time I've ever lag is on my Nexus 7 (2012) and I think it had to do with the network, as soon as I turned off syncing it would rarely happen. Maybe yours is defective? Have you rooted it? Mine is stock right now, I do want to root it, but I will wait until the warranty is over. The only problem I've had is that the image on the phone is way to crisp. But it's beautiful :p
[Nexus 6  General] 413vzwh8r:
***** at devs for not fully supporting 5.0 and up... The phonenisnt to blame. And if yiu really think its the device... Maybe take a break from tech until you get older... Changing from Dalvik to ART is big, and it affects many apps. Give it time.

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I only have lag in madden during kickoffs. All other time and any other games have no issue.

Def a software thing.
[Nexus 6  General] nightmare911:
It doesnt lag straight away its after you play the game for a few rounds than you'll start to noticr some lags but it gets worse the more you play.
[Nexus 6  General] msd24200:
I've played it a lot and haven't noticed any lag on spiderman unlimited. That being said I downloaded Madden to test it out and got lag when passing the ball. So I can confirm what others have stated about that game in particular.
[Nexus 6  General] Smallsmx3:
Played temple run 2 and spider man. Both flawless on slim rom using elemental
[Nexus 6  General] noobdeagle:
Wouldn't it being worse over time indicate some kind of memory leak or something specific to the application it's self (or some underlaying api). Don't think the issue is a hardware related one tbh at least not from what I have seen so far.
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
I mesnt 2k, typing without reading glasses
[Nexus 6  General] MrDSL:
I've been complaining about this since I first loaded castle clash a couple weeks ago. It's gotten a bit better but still runs better on my LG G Pro.
[Nexus 6  General] Hand76:
I hope more devs can weigh in on this. I would love to get their take on why this is happening

The most helpful voted comment across all devices (Chinatown Wars) is about Nexus 6 lag.
[Nexus 6  General] hungmung:
You people know this happens with almost every new os update right? Especially ones that completely change the entire runtime environment that software uses. Honestly especially with rockstar games you should be glad they work at all on art when it was first released they just about ignored everyone even commenting that the other gta games didn't run at all on lollipop. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they did the minimal work to get it working and not so anything yet to sort out bugs and issues.
[Nexus 6  General] Hand76:
This is the thing we don't know! I have old games that have not been updated in over a year that work fine with 5.0...Gta 3/Dead Space have not been updated to work on 5.0 yet work fine. But newer games released this month (Chinatown Wars/Xcom Enemy Within) don't work right.

There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to what is happening. How come we are not hearing on updated Nexus 5 complaints of lag?
[Nexus 6  General] MrDSL:
I run with ART on my LG and many users with LP on older phones the games play fine.

Its always the same excuse every time...its a new os and a new this ignoring the fact that other OLDER phones are running this new OS and new this and that and the games play fine.

Its a $700 dollar phone and it should play these games as well or better than older phones on the same new OS. I don't think that's too much to ask.

I kept the phone because of development and the screen so I can live but I'll think twice the next time around.

I have no doubt that when my buddy at work gets LP on his Note 4 he'll show me castle clash runs fine for him.

I wonder what the excuse will be then?
[Nexus 6  General] TheEmpyre:
I think this is an investigative process more than giving excuses.

However I do agree it doesn't add up, especially because we are paying good money for the device
[Nexus 6  General] PoisonWolf:
I wrote this a while back, but I firmly believe that it applies even to this context (see here). I'd wager that the culprit is the pointless increase in device resolution (i.e., gains in CPU/GPU performance is being overshadowed by the ridiculous increase in device resoluion and the need for these things to run at 60fps). Of course, the game programmers can choose to run the game at 720p and just scale it up to Nexus 6's screen (but then why even have the high resolution screen right? lol).
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
My son has been playing madden and many other demanding games on the note 4, zero issues
[Nexus 6  General] cobyman7035:
I seem to be getting lag opening certain apps. I hope ? its the app and not the phone ?..I'm underclocked to 1.95ghz

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Especially wen I enter a text box with ai plus keyboard.. It takes a sec a?popup the keyboard sometimes.. I hope ? its that ai app not the? Phone

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[Nexus 6  General] Toneman07:
I'm running stock rooted faux kernel with tweaks. I average 52k on benchmark. I play age of warring empire and various driving games with zero lag. The only issue I've experienced so far is with SwiftKey occasionally not opening. I had the same issue with my g3 on lollipop and chalk it up to developer issues. This phone is hand over fist faster and smoother than the g3
[Nexus 6  General] Hand76:
Thanks! And make senses excpet games on Note 4 seem to be running smooth. Also i tried a root related app to lower resolution to 1080p and fired up one of the games i was getting lag in and even after the change i still got the same amount of lag :(
[Nexus 6  General] MrDSL:
Oh we're blaming the screen resolution now? The Note 4 has the same screen res.l

I've changed the screen res to 1080 and certain games still lag..

When I first complained about this ppl said its LP and ART is new and games need to be updated. Older phones started getting LP and the games ran fine.

Then it was well the games aren't optimized for this hardware. The Note 4 got test LP and games work fine.

Then it was screen res, ignoring the fact that the Note 4 has the same res and a lot of same hardware and still doesn't have this issue.

There's something wrong and it would be nice to move forward and try to figure it out instead of being fan boys and blaming it on stuff that's proven to not be it.

There's no way older phone running LP should be able to play these games smoother than out N6.

There's something wrong people!!
[Nexus 6  General] cobyman7035:
Doesn't bother me I don't play games on my nexus™ 6

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[Nexus 6  General] akellar:
Seriously people, what result are you expecting here? Don't like the performance of the device, sell it. Repeating yourselves over and over won't make these games run better for you.
[Nexus 6  General] Turgur:
I think a lot of us would rather figure out the problem than sell it.
[Nexus 6  General] MrDSL:
And neither will you essentially adding nothing to the topic. If it doesn't bother you guys that's fine move on.

However some of us would like to see this possibly resolved. I've already said that I'm keeping the device because of development and screen but that doesn't mean I don't want it to be the best phone it can be.

If there was something about the phone that wasn't right and effected something you guys use then you'd be saying something also.

When the hell did the mentality of the consumer become buy $700 dollar product and just accept it as is and if you don't like it return it....geez
[Nexus 6  General] akellar:
Damn right if I spend $700 and I don't like it I'm returning it.
[Nexus 6  General] Hand76:
Akellar just saying sell it is not the answer.

I need to be on Verizon, i want a large screen device, that's rootable and preferably running stock android. Don't want bloatware or touchwiz.

Not like there are that many options for a high end user.

Don't want to sell just want a fix/sution. Think you can appreciate that.

Ohhh and one last thing. Two posters in this thread are down playing this, yet have another thread going posting all these impressive benchmark scores! That is lulz worthy. Worrying about scores that have nothing to do with real world performance.

And on a final note Merry Christmas all!
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
of course they have real world performance/use, these benchmark apps. problem is that the normal user is clueless to what the scores mean. just like you dont know. if your scores are half of what they should be, and you benchmsrked properly, then your real world performance is also going to suffer.
[Nexus 6  General] akellar:
I'm not saying the device is without issue, I'm just saying that repeatedly saying games lag isn't going to make them suddenly work better. Game devs don't typically hangout in xda. I'd suggest contacting them via whatever contact info they provide on play store and hope they actually respond.
[Nexus 6  General] noneabove:
Is your N5 running lollipop? I would definitely be tempted to say it's not optimized to use ART, I know there are many older games that are not supported by new OS versions and even big game devs won't bother to update them to work properly, they'll just say your device isn't compatible instead
[Nexus 6  General] TheAmazingDave:
I'm thinking it's the display drivers that Google implemented with the N6 firmware.

That said, the only lag in games that I have experienced is with Beach Buggy Racing, and only with the visual settings maxed.
[Nexus 6  General] Hand76:
Another high profile game now with complaints of lag Kotor.

I am going to try this one next week but already worried.
[Nexus 6  General] OrionBG:
My Moto G is with Lollipop too and the games that lag (a lot) on the Nexus 6 are working perfectly on the Moto G!
[Nexus 6  General] TheEmpyre:
Interestingly I do not get lag on my stock rooted AT&T on KOTOR... Doesn't seem to be much consistency between devices
[Nexus 6  General] Hand76:
This is some scary ****.

Realistically phones don't change much performance wise from software over there lifetime.

Yes you can root and make tweaks and improve performance some and battery life some...But the problems here are so significant that I'm afraid they may not change all that much.

Can we contact Google/Moto on this?

[Edit]

TheEmpyre I have yet to try, going to next week. Who knows if it could be different devices or maybe people playing longer? Which could mean memory leaks?

I just don't get it, I see others benchmark scores and I am getting similar. Says my phone is top of the line. Yet real world use tells a different story.
[Nexus 6  General] OrionBG:
You haven't! You CAN'T change the resolution of this or any other Android device for that matter (except on some Chromebook maybe). The resolution is hard-coded and the only thing that can be changed is the DPI setting in Android( which only re-sizes the interface). If in some miraculous way you were able to hack the LCD Matrix controller and make it show FullHD instead of 2K resolution, you would have the picture not in Full Screen.
[Nexus 6  General] Hand76:
What about this app? I tried it and thought what you did it only changed the dpi. Is that the case?

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/themes-apps/resolution-changer-t2977699

[Edit] Sorry Orion I see you commented in that thread so I guess you have seen it already.
[Nexus 6  General] OrionBG:
As you can see from the screenshots in that thread, the only changed thing is the DPI (all UI elements are smaller). In Android (and not only) You can't manipulate the actual display resolution as it is hard-coded into the LCD controller. The only thing that can be manipulated is the DPI which re-sizes the UI to fit the same amount of data into different screen sizes and resolutions.
[Nexus 6  General] MrDSL:
You can change the screen resolution. Show us data where you absolutely can not because we arent just taking your word for it since there are plenty of web sites that show how to change screen res in LP.

The command has been changed in LP to

adb shell wm size

Next you'll tell us we cant change the res on our PC monitors.
[Nexus 6  General] PoisonWolf:
You can indeed change the resolution. This requires changes in the kernel before it is compiled (e.g., custom resolution tables,vertical and horizontal refresh rate information, etc). I've done this on android sticks to bring it down to 800x480 instead of 1280x720 and this drastically improved gaming performance (significantly). My TV, in this case, handled the scaling to scale the 480p image to the entire 1080p resolution of the TV. I'm not sure what would happen if you tried this on an android phone. It would be an interesting experiment to see if the Nexus 6 LCD controller would know to scale the image up or if it would just show a smaller image on the device itself.

But once the kernel is compiled, there is no way to change the device resolution. What you can only change is the DPI, if I recall correctly.
[Nexus 6  General] sykopompos:
I actually sat down and read this thread and all I am hearing is whining, then more whining, then even more whining talking about excuses but I have not seen a single logcat here to bother trying to figure out what the issue is....
[Nexus 6  General] cobyman7035:
Can someone here try HERE beta maps app to see if it lags on u while scrolling in offline map screen.? Mine lags so bad… it should be smooth like google maps

Also my androbench stats seem to be going down.. 2weeks ago I got 160read. 60write.. Now I'm down to 120read and 40write.. My? NeXus™6 seems to slowing down with age lol

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[Nexus 6  General] Hand76:
Wow thanks so much Trypsyk that's awesome! Thank you
[Nexus 6  General] air2k57:
Ended up using iPhone as daily device again, same issues. I still use nexus 6 as a busienss phone but it is not as snappy as expected. Stock apps do tend to have delay between hitting the icon and app opening, sometimes delay is longer than others. Main issue is with games indeed. World of tanks blitz for example, 10-15fps max... Unplayable. Researched to see others have same issues. Tried on droid turbo, runs pretty decently.

As much as I like android 5.0, it is hard to use as daily driver when even basic tasks such as opening dialer stutter and take 2-3x the time to open compared to iPhone. And don't get me going on the camera. Nexus never had good camera, but I thought this one would be better. Focus time is 2-3x longer than iPhone, shutter speed is slow and impossible to take good moving shots. I question optical image stabilization.
[Nexus 6  General] zetsumeikuro:
That or you have loaded more apps and you know the deal with flash memory. How many tests did you run in a row?
[Nexus 6  General] zetsumeikuro:
Everything on my Nexus is pretty much instant and for a phone it takes acceptable pictures. Turning off encryption does wonders for the device.
[Nexus 6  General] cobyman7035:
ya i guess the more apps i have the slower my nexus6 gets...i just did another test after flashing new elementalX v10 kernel

got 145MB/s read and 45 write, so it did speed up a bit from 120/40 , when i first decrypted with hardly any apps it was around 165/60

also re: fast turbo charge, is that correct? at 3:03am my phone was at 13%juice, then at 3:33am = 37% juice

so in 30mins it went up by 24%, thats normal using that stock turbo charger? mA was around 950

i used gsam battery pro app
[Nexus 6  General] zetsumeikuro:
Yeah that sounds about right for the turbo charge. I got a full 5-100% charge in about 1hr while tethering.
[Nexus 6  General] noneabove:
The nvidia shield tablet can change resolution, just saying :)
[Nexus 6  General] OrionBG:
I could not find any proof of that. The only resolution that can be manipulated on the Shield is the HDMI output resolution.

But whatever... This thread is not for the Shield and you just can't change the display resolution on an android device like you do on a PC.

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You are quite right! I have also mentioned in one of my previous posts that heavy low level modifications will be needed to achieve this. It can be done over HDMI or VGA/DVI interfaces, but on Phones/Tablets... There is always a But!

First you will need the LCD Controller to support those resolutions in order to correctly display the picture on the LCD matrix. You will also need the LCD controller to know what is display scaling.

Second you will need to change the kernel as you have mentioned and also the Adreno driver should be made aware of all this.

So Yes it is theoretically possible but not with a simple program (even if it called Resolution Changer) and surely Not on a stock or near stock device!
[Nexus 6  General] noneabove:
I know this isnt about the shield, so maybe dont make blanket statements about android without doing research... See attached screenshot, it may be just the resolution of a given app, but it is still resolution. you talk as if we're saying use fewer pixels, but it's just rendering at a lower resolution
[Nexus 6  General] adl:
I have only the Nexus 5 but am reading and watching much about the Nexus 6 and videos like this are holding me back on getting the Nexus 6 soon:

[YOUTUBE]024-peDZMck[/YOUTUBE]
[Nexus 6  General] TheEmpyre:
Trypsyk, thank you for investigating for the rest of us who lack the knowledge of Android development, much appreciated! Obviously more investigation to be done but a wonderful start. I trust software optimization will be made in the future by Google. Growing pains of being first ones with the newest of the new.
[Nexus 6  General] sykopompos:
I have a question to those who are having performance issues on the n6 here. I'm on my own custom ROM that addresses a lot of the memory leaks that were in lollipop (everything here seems memory leak related BTW) and am not experiencing any of these issues.

Now I don't have these games that people are complaining about but the games I do have don't have any of these issues.

So is anyone complaining about any performance issues on a custom ROM?
[Nexus 6  General] nightmare911:
Yeah im using rastapop and lean and still having the same issue with lag in games. For me it might be a memory leak becuase the games start to lag even more after awhile of playing the game.
[Nexus 6  General] sykopompos:
I don't know if rascarlo has address all the memory leaks that was. Is any of these games people complaining about free so I can install them and check them out? I'm not going to buy games that I will never play again just to check it out
[Nexus 6  General] Hand76:
I think Madden NFL Mobile is a major culprit of poor performance specifically on this device as opposed to running fine on just about everything else. And that's free. But yea unfortunately a majority of the games I have expierienced lag with have been paid titles. I will take a quick look through some of the more demanding free games on the market later and look at reviews for our device and let you know.

I asked in the gaming thread but did anyone else pickup GTA Chinatown Wars? Just driving down a long city street at a high rate of speed will start to show lag right off the bat in the first 30 second of playing. Again I just beat the game on my Nexus 5 and smooth as butter. And this is not even a very demanding game....It's a top down 2D/3D and both phones run cool but Nexus 6 has a problem keeping up.
[Nexus 6  General] sykopompos:
I just gave Madden a try on my ROM and it seemed perfectly normal and fine for me. I did miss the field goal though :(
[Nexus 6  General] Hand76:
And this is the new Xcom Enemy Within. Looking at reviews we seem to be the only device complaining about graphical glitches.

Looks like shadows are not being rendered properly on the Nexus 6. So who's responsible for fixing this? Google or the Dev? Wouldn't this be a graphic driver issue?
[Nexus 6  General] sykopompos:
Probably Qualcomm and google. The 805 brings a new GPU that supports open gl 3.1, once other 805 devices get updated to use the new gl drivers then they will probably run into the same issues
[Nexus 6  General] OrionBG:
I already said what I have to say. This thread is not about the Shield and if it is capable of changing resolution on its own screen than it is an exception. I've had many android based devices over the years and none of them had such an option (or feature). It was also pointed out the this can't be done unless the kernel have been specifically modified to allow this! This thread is about the performance problems of the Nexus 6 (the stock one) and we are trying to find where the problem is coming from!

Let's stop this pointless discussion about resolution as it is not relevant for this device and can't be implemented on a stock (or near stock) device!
[Nexus 6  General] V6iNSPIRE:
Just downloaded madden and I can say that there is no lag during game. The only lag is when the opponent kicks the ball for a starting drive.

Running Euphoria latest
[Nexus 6  General] OrionBG:
I see Euphoria is an AOSP based ROM... Maybe there is something in the Nexus 6 stock code that is f**ked up....

What Kernel are you using?
[Nexus 6  General] V6iNSPIRE:
I'm running leankernel 1.3. Its included in the ROM
[Nexus 6  General] cobyman7035:
Wow n5 loads much faster in most apps… qfhd nex6 y screen seems not optimized… I too find some lag on certain apps… here beta maps… scrolling maps is very laggy… can any1 confirm this or not on n6?

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[Nexus 6  General] OrionBG:
If you are looking at the map at higher altitude it is almost ok, but if you zoom in to see the 3D buildings.... veeeery laggy...
[Nexus 6  General] Amos91:
Looks like an encrypted Nexus 6 to me. It beats the 5 in the tests when the app has already been loaded into the ram.

Although he has sped some of those videos up, on the ones I can compare, my decrypted 6 is faster than both.
[Nexus 6  General] moropazzo96:
That i think the app is not optimized for nexus 6, and lollipop is not good system. Google needs to work on it :confused:
[Nexus 6  General] MrElmy:
Could this be our issue?

I don't know much about this stuff, so excuse my ignorance. I did install Madden and noticed the same lag others are reporting, but haven't noticed it anywhere else. I am rooted on stock 5.0.1.

I have seen a few people here mention memory leaks. I found this article this morning, could this be the solution to our issue? (I can't post a link, being a noob) Search Google News for "maine news google fixes lollipop bug which caused ram leak and crashed apps"