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[Note Edge General] nmcgrawj:
WINNING!!!

rather than all these threads about people crying over a phone, we need more threads stickied that have cool tips like this. Too much crap is buried and people miss it.. Never expected to see this in this thread.

For the purpose of this thread, I tried to convince myself to go nexus 6 after my note 3. I couldn't give up the note's features for simply more roms. In my opinion, is either note edge or the 4. Can't lose with either.
[Note Edge General] glidersgalore:
For those of you looking to get the Edge, here us a bit of info. I am on AT&T I called and said I was going to cancel and go to Sprint. When asked why I said I wanted the Note Edge, but could not justify paying the extra $120 that AT&T wanted. They gave me a credit of $120 as soon as I ordered my phone.
[Note Edge General] htcmaster:
I understand what you are saying.

Before I used a Note 2 for 2 years, and briefly a Note 3 for a few days. In The Netherlands I could choose a "branded" Vodafone Note 4 or and unbranded Note Edge. The price difference was also about 200 euro's.

My observations:

-The wow factor is limited, most people don't even notice that the screen is bend.

-The added value is limited, I bought the flip wallet, but even then there are not to many examples of good use of the edge screen.

You have to live with some shortcomings compared to note 4:

-Smaller battery

-Smaller community

-Does not fit gear VR

-Even wider

-Limited amount of accesoires compared to note 4

-Not all software works nicely together (chromecast screen mirror, mirrors the edge screen)

Its still a cool and goodlooking piece of hardware, but I'm not convinced its worth the extra €€. Maybe its just the price of being an early adopter.
[Note Edge General] cigarillocitti:
lol 200 extra dollars I paid 47.50 with my att next plan and the note 4 is the same exact phone just with the panels at the bottom and non gliding display lmao if you researched first
[Note Edge General] NineToTheSky:
I agree with everything you say, but, still, for me, the wow factor is very high.
[Note Edge General] cvaria:
I dont agree.

- There are no limited oem accessories

- The battery size is not a big deal.

- Who is dumb enough to buy a gear vr?

- Most of the note 4 mods work on the edge

Just no roms. But to be honest who has tried using note 4 roms? I haven't looked.

I love my edge. If you just dont have the "extra €€", then the device aint for you. Its a meager difference in cost. 120 max.

You dont need to be "convinced". Either buy it or dont. The note 4 is fine.
[Note Edge General] _Dennis_:
I tried a kernel and got a boot loop. Pretty sure the kernel/ROM can be hacked to work but I'm not skilled enough to do it lol.
[Note Edge General] Jeshter2000:
You will miss the cocktailbar APK for sidescreen....
[Note Edge General] cvaria:
I honestly want no more from the phone. No rom will change that. My thong has always been reduced clutter and minimalism. TW gives me that and the can fit every single application in folders. All this "speed" people are clamoring over is the speed at which the app grid moves... how stupid is that? I dont even have an app grip anymore just one page of folders. Thats what i love about TW. No mess of apps all over the place. Organization. All those folder fot into the side bar and that means i dont need to stop what im doing to get to apps. What rom gives me that... none.

The edge os the most incredible phone ive ever used. And i never, for even one second, regretted it. Its rooted and its a note 4 at its core. Its a win.

The most misunderstood phone of the year.

Morons are running around putting it down saying silly stuff like, "how do i hold it" and "where can i rest my hand" dead give away that they've never used one for any length of time. Most of that negativity is coming from not even trying it.

All the people saying it's not worth it or theres no support... what are they expecting? Sharks with laser beam to come out the side of the phone?

I am thrilled. I just feel sorry for the att folks who cant root. Att is evil. I cant go back to regular phones now unless someone ports over the cocktail sidebar.

I just want to see multi-window integrated with the cocktail bar. I'm not sure why Samsung didn't do that to begin with.
[Note Edge General] razorseal:
I'm so torn between a Note 4 or the edge. I currently have a Note 3 from ATT. I love the phone. I don't even see the need for an upgrade except just getting a newer phone.

Wife and I looked at the Edge, and she really liked the concept. I told her she should stick with what she knows, and she insisted she wants to try something new with the edge. (I also told her to get a galaxy 4 instead of the note 3, and she always says I was wrong in that decision because she loves her note lol)

That being said were ordered her a Edge last night. I'm still torn if I want to go with a Note 4, or try something new and get the Edge...
[Note Edge General] frankgreimes:
I think both are absolutely great phones even excellent, at first I thought like Edge ? Really never but now that I've tried it out it has really grown on me. I'm still not sure if I will pick it over the Note 4 because something is very annoying:

The Edge Panel doesn't just turn black it always shows that "Express Me Message" is there a way to completely hide it so that it only shows a black bar ? I've thought about making a custom 100 % panel und then only add ___ as a text wihtout any animation would that work ?

The grip obviously isn't as good as the one on the 4 but I didn't find the Edge unfomfortable either just takes a bit of getting used to. Last thing I've noticed is tat the screen isn't as bright.

Although these are obviously downsides, that the edge panel combined with favorite Apps, active apps switcher (like alt+tab on desktop) and the incoming phone calls panel is just too damn useful..

I don't care about the higher pricetag because over a two year span it's about 4,5 bucks more per month and since I keep my phones much longer it's even less.

So the decision will come down to convinience and for sure dev support.
[Note Edge General] cvaria:
Black bar:

Just delete the text in the "personal message " And delete the express me text... and you'll have your black bezel.

The grip beef. Nah. If anything you have a better grip on the edge. The curved side digs into your paws.
[Note Edge General] frankgreimes:
Really nice tip thank you will try that tomorrow
[Note Edge General] htcmaster:
-Off course the OEM en offbrand accesories are limited. The sales numbers are limited so there is less drive to make new accesories? Take for example flip wallet and led wallet for N4 and only flip wallet for Note Edge. If this is important to you is something else, but it is a fact and it makes sense, moneywise

-Battery is smaller and te me and a lot of users thats a big deal

-Gear VR is not interesting? :rolleyes:

-There are 130.000+ posts about note 4 vs 10.000 for Note Egde. That seems like a smaller community to me

Everybody is entitled to have his opinion, so attacking someone having a opinion is not cool.
[Note Edge General] jdkzombie:
I have the dang locked down att model. It's a fantastic phone, my favorite music app updated to use the edge screen (poweramp ftw).

I just want root to remove bloat with titanium backup pro, increase battery life, control my cpu myself, and make use of some of my paid apps.

That's why I have great faith in the guys here at XDA.. If anyone can get us root, it's these guys.. Just gotta be patient.
[Note Edge General] cvaria:
Im a bit of a tool.

Im sick of the crying. "Limited test run"

You want safe go get a note. But keep you tears and compliants. If you don't even have one and arent developing. Dont hang around crying.

The gear vr is silly, period. Did you order one? Interesting and worthwhile are not equivalent. It limited in application why would anyone order. One you get a new phone in a few months its useless. Find an emoji for that.

Accessories that are eed are available. Your cute, clever, and convenient ones are note. "Limited test run" comes to mind. Try looking at world site for addons. I imported my parts from Samsung korea. They dont show up on the us site.

Bottom line. The edge is demo. Stop the crying. Either deal with super small, inadequate 3000 mah battery.... wait... what size is the battery on 99% of the phones on the market? .... yeah, either deal with demo as it is or dont... but the crying help nothing. Opinion or not.

People are afraid of the edge... they say stupid stuff like "how do i hold it" or "I need some where to rest my hand". long as ignorance like this is out there, which is forever, then edge and things like it will be niche items. Not for you. You need an iPhone.

Thus stuff is answered by just holding the phone as all owners know. We just took plung and didn't look back. It's a new way to use your phone and i love it. Its hard to go back to flipping through an app grid to find stuff now.

Quit your crying....especially if you dont have one. The note 4 is there for you because the edge is not for you.

The edge does everything the note does and more, note the otherway around. The world is not flat. Stop being negative.
[Note Edge General] ingenious247:
I have had the Edge since it was 1st available with T-Mobile and I love the phone. I love the idea, the look, how it feels in my hand, that it's lighter than the Note 4, has better build quality IMO (no gaps at all, bezel doesn't scratch as easy as the Note 4 for some reason, neither does the home button which scratched on the Note 4 very easily). I am not rooted, pure stock, and I have no intention to root. It has the same hardware as the Note 4, so everything is good there. For some reason, to me, the screen on the Edge is even better looking than the Note 4 (I had both obviously). As soon as I had the Edge in my hand I knew it was the phone for me. I prefer my phones naked so rocking it with no screen protector/case is all gravy.

However, the lack of Samsung's effort to make the Edge more than a poorly executed secondary notification panel is baffling to me.

The main "notification" Edge panel is poorly implemented. If you don't want their ever-so-inaccurate weather info on there, just disable it right? Only then it says "Tap to add weather".. permanently. Who the hell wants to see that all day? Notifications are nothing more than a little icon, that gives zero information. MUCH better than the standard notification bar, riiight? The panel doesn't light up when the phone is locked when you get a text or email or anything. Just sits there, all dark and useless. The panels they offer us are a joke for the most part. Memory match? Tiny Burger? Are you friggin' serious??

Essentially the only stock/news/etc services offered are Yahoo based (no thanks). Which also stop working after a while, for no reason. Seems very beta-esque if you ask me. I help beta test apps all the time that have less issues than this "finished" product. Remember, I'm completely stock. Should not be having ANY issues like this.

The CNN news panel stops working after a short time. Then it will work again. Then it will freeze again. This is a CNN app issue though, but still irritating. Uninstalled CNN.

ONE favorites panel? Yes, you can add as many as you want, but part of the beauty of the Edge is to be able to swipe to the side for the next panel. But instead what I really bought was a VERY limited sidebar launcher built into the phone, since the favorites panel is all I ended up using on a daily basis.

I DO like how phone calls are handled on the Edge, I like the music/Netflix/etc controls popping up on the Edge when I am using those apps.

Don't get me wrong - it's still my favorite phone I've ever had due to the POTENTIAL. But if Samsung or some really talented Devs don't get deeply involved with the Edge then this phone is basically just a sidebar launcher Note 4. That's my take on it after almost two months of using it every day.

If you're on the fence and you're one of those perpetually dissatisfied people, DO NOT buy the Edge. If you're like me and value a great phone and potential (and have patience) then buy it. It's a great phone. Easily the best of 2014 IMO.
[Note Edge General] cvaria:
the cnn bar was trash.

you don't like the folders in the favorites bar? i love it because it's a launcher in the bar. i hate the whole app grid thing. it's so tired. folders where like a gift from god when they first appeared in andriod and ios!

"favorites panel is all I ended up using on a daily basis." yes!

the one thing i wish is that multi-window could be launched from the fav bar. would seem like that'd be a natural thing. it's not...
[Note Edge General] ingenious247:
I don't really like folders. It takes a simple one-step process (click icon) and turns it into a two-step process (click folder, click icon).

I power use my phone at lightening speed so even an extra second annoys me.
[Note Edge General] cvaria:
i suppose. i'll say a lot about a stock edge. "lighten speed" is not one of those things in that lot.:D
[Note Edge General] ingenious247:
I don't use the TW launcher though. I usually use Apex, but right now I've been using Flow Home Beta, it's awesome.
[Note Edge General] Apsterdam:
On typhone.nl its free with t mobile got mine last saturday and lovin it ever since im happy that i choose the edge and not note 4 its just that little bit extra and everyone that sees it loves it and the development will come give it time the phone is just a couple of weeks old

sent from my new note edge sm-n915fy
[Note Edge General] htcmaster:
I have to choose a 64 euro/month contract to get it for free on that website. The pricedifference was big because VF probably made a good deal for a branded Note 4. I enjoy the phone, but need to work out some glitches that come with the Edge screen. I think my opinion is more or less the same as this review: http://www.techspot.com/review/938-samsung-galaxy-note-edge/page5.html
[Note Edge General] knlgSeeker:
I see a common theme here.. "the curved edge is awkward to hold".. and "it's too expensive". Both of which have nothing at all to do with the phone itself lol.. if you have little hands or difficulty adjusting to holding objects with asymmetrical dimensions, I understand your concern.. I guess lol. If the price of the phone is out of your budget, then it may not be worth it for you, and you are wise to spend your cash on a cheaper device. As an Edge owner, I have no trouble holding my phone, and my only complaint is the battery life, an issue which will most likely be addressed when lollipop is available. For now, fast charging is an acceptable resolution, I live in an urban environment, an electrical outlet is always nearby :)
[Note Edge General] quangtran1:
Regarding the Edge, where have you been all these years? I'm an early adopter. My IP6+, Droid Turbo, Sony Z3, Note 4 were all purchased on release dates. I like them all. I had figured the side screen would be beneficial, but never realized how useful it would become. All that information is readily accessible. I hardly use the Note 4 now.
[Note Edge General] troycarpenter:
My IT department let me use a Note Edge to help decide between it and the Note 4. At the end of the day, I thought the Edge was a gimmick and was leaning towards the Note 4. However, something prompted me to get the Edge anyway, and boy am I glad I did. Integrating it into my daily routines turned out to give a totally different experience than just playing with it for a day, and now I see the value of the edge screen that I missed just playing around with it.

My advice: If you have even the smallest thought of getting the Edge after trying it at the store or elsewhere, do it! You don't get any real feel of the usefulness in that setting. You have to set up your email; you have to get your calendar and contacts on it; you need to receive a phone call while using the device; you need to have it in a car dock using your favorite GPS software with your music player in the background or receive a phone call to see how useful it really is.
[Note Edge General] blackinjun:
The Note Edge is Not Worth It

I keep coming back to this thread because of the responses. Just want to say everyone has their opinion and if you look at the title of the thread it was always going to be a mainly "crybaby" thread. So for those like me that love the Edge don't take it too seriously the people that are responding more than once about why its not worth it.....think about it, why are they still here. And trust me that's not a dig at them, just reminding you, you're happy don't worry.

Here endeth the lesson
[Note Edge General] mscion:
The title of this thread should be "The Note Edge is Not Worth it for Me." Everyone is entitled to their opinion. He is not speaking for everyone, including me.
[Note Edge General] Ukbondraider:
The note edge is a great device. However it should not be priced above a Note 4. It should be the same price released at the same time. The edge would therefore have been the option for a lot of people where the Note 4 was not enough.

A higher price with a later release means effectively an even higher price relative to the Note 4 as the Note 4 has already dropped in value. Whilst RRP shows a USD 100 or £100 difference the actual reality is a £200+ difference between the two phones which makes the edge a very unattractive option.

It is still the best phone currently available though.
[Note Edge General] *Omnipresent*:
The Note Edge is worth the extra $$$ to me and here are my reasons why.

1. The $100 price difference averages out to about an extra 2 dollars a week, if you only keep the edge for a year. If you can afford the note 4 to begin with, why is 2 bucks a week an issue?

2. Using the edge screen by itself for things like checking the time, sport scores, weather, negates the smaller battery complaints. You may actually save battery, depending on how you use the edge.

3. Most people use a nice case to protect their $800 - $1000 investment, which renders the 'harder to hold' argument moot.

4. Multitasking efficiency is increased using the edge panel. So long 'gimmick' nonsense.

5. Power button can be moved to edge screen using the free app 'Screen Off & Lock' from the play store, or the excellent and free 'Edge Navi' app, in the themes and apps forum. So much for 'the power button is awkward to reach at the top' stuff.

6. Feels less premium in hand? See #3 counterpoint.
[Note Edge General] Ukbondraider:
Did you even read my post. It is no longer a USD 100 difference. More like a £200+ difference or when converted, a USD 300 difference here in the UK. I expect it will be a similar difference in the US.

Yes we can all afford it but financially it is poor sense.
[Note Edge General] blackinjun:
I agree about the title of the thread, although i don't think it would make a difference. Not sure whether you are referring to me in your reply but just to make sure you understand. I wasn't trying to limit opinions or knock those that have a negative one about the edge. I was just reminding satisfied users, why argue.
[Note Edge General] mscion:
Hi. I was just refering to the title of the thread. It was a bit too much on the dogmatic side. I just reread your post and it makes a very good point. I'm happy, why bother!
[Note Edge General] Kainoa3:
One could also make the title "The Verizon Note Edge is Not Worth It", seeing as how we will probably never get a root.
[Note Edge General] derekpaul:
You do not know what you are talking about, the edge has a lot to offer... more than

You obviously really didn't give it a really good thorough looking through! the edge shows you stuff that that the top bar doesn't have to now, plus a lot of other things to come!!! you are just impatient and not ready for new ideas!!! stay in the stone age, we like your thinking there!!!
[Note Edge General] droidxxxxx:
I don't know why this phone would never see root. The extra possibilities with the edge bar I could see somebody wanting to mod that. Basically just like the note 4 with a extra little feature that is unlike anything else on any other phone. I would have to say it's one of the more unique phones if not the most unique phone out there now. Somebody needs to root it lol claim the notoriety!
[Note Edge General] nightelfdruid:
Yeah?...Well that's just, like, your opinion, man. Just got mine this morning and I'm loving it. We can still be Note buddies if you get the 4. <3
[Note Edge General] yosteve:
Everyone has a different reason for liking/ not liking the edge.

Personally, I like being able to have my button of choice (settings button) at my right hand's fingertips since I hit it constantly, just like being able to go to messages just next to it, and being able to get there without having to hit home or back.

The op mentioned it's too wide for him, well that you're never gonna change so if that's a deal breaker definitely switch.

I also like how I'm able to see incoming texts as I'm writing this and when the next song comes on in spotify comes on I can tap next if I want on the edge.

When my brother saw the phone on the net he was like that is the fugliest phone ever. The other day his 9 year old said, uncle, I like your edge. Lol, made me feel proud.

But other people commented on how it would annoy them. To them I say, you know how PC's have tool bars? That's what this is. They still might not like it but they at least understand a dedicated bar and how it can be convenient.

I do wish the handing of windows was more intuitive, especially with making them and maximizing and minimizing them.
[Note Edge General] cvaria:
Why is this thread still going
[Note Edge General] drmacrofish:
I don't have a Note edge. Still have my rooted Note 3 though. Been looking at the edge and Note 4 for possible change. Thanks for this thread. Some of the posts have been useful. I will say this, IF Samsung comes out with an S6 edge like it is rumored to, development for the Note edge will skyrocket for sure. This would be great as I really like the concept of the edge and think I would find it extremely useful. Time will tell though. Hopefully Samsung doesn't just drop it as they have so many other things that they make. I may wait awhile longer and just see where things go.
[Note Edge General] parusia:
I owned the Note 2, Note 3, Note 4, and now the Note edge. The Note 3 is a beautiful and very reliable device, i left my Note 3 because I really love the display on the Note 4, at least for me the Note 4 is a step up from the Note 3 on display, speed, and Touch Wiz experience. Then I took the plunge and brought the Note Edge, and all I can say is that I love this phone, I love the speed, the whole experience with the Edge part is nice, I know the camera is the same with the Note 4, but the pictures are more clear on the Note Edge. In sum I love that I took the decision to brought this phone, I just sold my Note 4 on Ebay, because I don't have any use for it now. If you have the chance to buy this phone I highly recommend to you to buy it, you won't going to regretted.
[Note Edge General] DionWhite33:
I've been using note since note 2 days...still have my Note 3 rooted and love it to death...tried to get a Note 4 and actually feel in love with the Edge. I have one coming tomorrow. I must say I am very disappointed at the fact that this phone has been out for almost 6 months from what I've heard and yet there is no glass screen protector yet no one is in development and decent cases are hard to find and yet the s6 is not even out yet what you can already buy all that stuff for it and then there's the lack of development, as for ROMs a lot of the guys that worked on the Roms with the T Mobile Note 3 are now working with T Mobile Note 4 and are not even touching the edge! I don't see why not the best phone on the market right now!