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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] ej_424:
Sony announced at CES yesterday that Lollipop will be available to the Z3 line this February. Right around the corner...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] BobbyHenceMcGee:
Most exciting thing about Lollipop update in my opinion is the native support for RAW format camera shooting.

It will allow people to make the most of their phone camera sensors.

Now whether Sony are actually going to do anything to their camera software to enable this support to be used is a different story.

Worst case scenario I'm sure Google Camera will allow RAW with their software, which is better anyway. :cowboy:
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] n0iz3:
I just need a better performing auto mode.

Manual mode and RAW are nice to have, but ain't nobody got time fo' dat.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] mattdm:
...and completely break the Xposed Framework. That's why I won't even consider upgrading to LP until Xposed is updated to work with ART.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] bilboa1:
Yea lolipop aint great on nexus phones so i would not hold my breath. Not just bugs but the ui is worst and its slower. Theres no feature i find worthwhile. I highly doubt we even ger raw shotting (which isnt going to make the camera magic anyway).
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] DrEzkimo:
I went from my nexus 4 on 5 to the z3c on 4.4.4 and its soooo good to be back on a decent os :) I hate lolipop, brought nothing, broke lots of things and looked awful (in my opinion).

ill be blocking any update
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] lamenramen:
Lollipop on an HTC One m8 was a downgrade.

Slower, less stable, more bugs.

Absolutely would not upgrade to this OS.

With smartphones, stability = #1 priority.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] SONY大法好:
hope 5.0 come quick as they said
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] yss34:
索大好！

炫酷的id-。-
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] SONY大法好:
哈哈哈，活捉机友一只，我猜你也是等免解锁root的
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] thienbrand:
ENGLISH ONLY PLEASE. It's in the rule.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] kzchy:
Glimpse at what to expect with the next update. Seems OK.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Clark Joseph Kent:
4. Use the English language.

We understand that with all the different nationalities, not everyone speaks English well, but please try. If you're really unable to post in English, use an online translator. You're free to include your original message in your own language, below the English translation. (This rule covers your posts, profile entries and signature).
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] SONY大法好:
Im very sorry about my fault,I promise it will never happen again:(
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] TheNakedGun:
They have to change the statusbar icons. Their design is old as hell, I don't like them anymore.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] fratzika:
hi

I had the nexus 5 for a while with different lollipop builds and it worked flawlessly...as of performance nexus 5 lollipop> z3c kk...Though the 801 is a bit faster than the 800.

The n5 camera with api2 was a lot better than z3c cam too..(less noisy)

I am waiting for Sony to make a move on the camera on llp:)

Forgot to mention: my current Phone is z3c and i like it for sound, battery life and small size. Currently i don't fancy the camera:)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] ogyct:
Are there any news on when is going to come?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] bluelavender:
walkman update

Looks like it is getting closer... i just received walkman update with material design and "ready for Lollipop"
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] slyr114:
My walkman update just mentions something about android wear?.. Oops nevermind, was two updates behind XD
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] jmoore2:
The new walkman app is pretty nice. Small update for sure but definetly a small improvement. Seems faster to me
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] clouds5:
As long as it won't show any artist art it's not an option for me...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] jmoore2:
Account manager of updated with android d 5.0 support now
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] ogyct:
source: http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...l-5-0-release-date-when-can-i-get-it--1257804
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] dillalade:
Apparently Sony will be pushing lollipop to the z3 line as of this month... Could be any day now.

I got a feeling we may see it within the next 3weeks.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] bruce7373:
And then there's this:

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/3...t-coming-anytime-soon-blame-it-on-gear-vr.htm
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] nielsbrakel1998:
I can't wait for the update!! I really hope they inprove the camera. And can't wait to try out this app! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] dillalade:
No mention of Sony in that read. We can only speculate.

Though the COO of Sony Electronics shared this at CES http://m.androidcentral.com/sony-roll-out-lollipop-xperia-z3-lineup-starting-next-month
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] davebugyi:
Hopefully Sony will not be the one....
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] nielsbrakel1998:
Can you explain further? What effort?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] davebugyi:
To add the New camera API introduced in 5.0 - manual settings, TRUE long exposure, RAW etc.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] bruce7373:
You're right, my bad. Getting my devices and forums mixed up.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] nielsbrakel1998:
Still no update... (can't wait)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] serajr:
Next month ?!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] acabreram:
Hi serajr for 3rd paty notification badege in xperia xposed (KK) i need miis it? or some thing else?? because don´t shows badges in whatsapp for example. Thanks
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Chadie:
It takes this long to upgrade their flagships.. Sooo... Much.. Torture.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] giosal:
guys, be patient! delay is caused by the bugs in the source-code of OS itself, hence it was bugged coming out by Google. Sony is just trying to fix as much bugs as possible. Samsung already got the update, and tbh, it's so buggy. I myself prefer to wait for bug-free version than hop into smth which is full of bugs
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] flipside101:
[MENTION=2123819]giosal[/MENTION] do you have a source for this or is it conjecture ?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] YoMarK:
Not saying it's 100% bug free, but Lollipop is running fine on my Nexus 5, much better then 4.4.x and much smoother then 4.4.x on my Xperia z3 compact(which has faster hardware in theory).

Samsung has build their own bugs...has very little to do with google's source.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] giosal:
well, as it said in the article linked on the previous page, it is bugged...

as for Samsung, my friend has Galaxy 4 and from first-hand experience he said that in 90% of cases he can't even dial a number in less than 5 sec
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Pyres:
yet on nexus 5 works just fine, since last november...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Mons1990:
I think they're delaying to re-compile all the ****ing bloatware the phone comes out with. Unuseful stuff like extra stores, stupid camera effects, demo software, google stuff that does the same things as Sony one, gay multimedia apps and unuseful social integrations require time and resources! :mad::mad::mad:
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Tracy1988:
Lmao. What about those Nexus devices that have had lollipop for a while now? Are they unusable, no?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] ogyct:
Despite of your rude message, I can't agree more, that bloatware is really annoying. Moreover they actually need to update it all to support lollipop.

But at least I hope they will manage to fix camera and they will make a pretty material like design.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Mons1990:
I'm rude :D

Yes, that's the priority for me too
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] pipspeak:
I hope they fix more than just the camera... I'd like a decent dialer (that doesn't look like something from 2005), a launcher that is a little classier-looking and more customizable (so I don't need to use Nova), and the ability to control a bit more without needing to root (like disabling the lock screen in certain situations, for example).

The camera, though is def a priority. An auto mode that actually works would be a start. It would also be nice to cut out some of the needless complication of the multiple manual mode resolutions.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Tracy1988:
Sir, you're absolutely correct. :good:

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His message isn't rude at all. You should go to /system of this phone and see how many useless craps they implanted in there. I've never seen a phone with so much crapwares. Sony is trying to take a bite out of Google ecosystem and miserably failing at it.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] _katho_:
Certified on Z3 now, http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/02/18/android-5-0-lollipop-for-xperia-z3-certified-by-wi-fi-alliance/

So shouldn't be far away.

Not that I really need/want it, Kitkat + root works wonderful. :)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] scottjb:
Yes, it was very rude. Read it again. It had nothing to do with technical items regarding the phone.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Mons1990:
I can't stand bloatware. It's the reason why I left Ubuntu, for example.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] dlx350:
Love the specs; should add this device to my wishlist.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] lysp:
From here:

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/sony-xperi...ipop-march-z1-april-says-rogers-canada-622848
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] :
To be 100% honest with you, Sony is one of the brands that have the least amount of bloatware preinstalled when compared to other OEM's such as Samsung and HTC.

Every post I've seen from you on this forum have either been hateful against Sony or something like that, and I really wonder why you even bother to clog the sections up with all hateful posts.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Avengeme:
Agreed....jackass in every thread I've seen them post in.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Zwulf:
Erm... to be 100% honest with you, I got about three times more bloat on this device than I got on my old S3 stock with TouchWiz.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Mons1990:
Yes, but there's difference between useful bloatware and - for example - What's New. ;) Samsung is terrific, but we can't enjoy that someone does worse.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] NYC_ROCK:
the fact that US carriers are pushing out Lollipop before Sony can get to thier unlocked flagship is just awful. I guess we should assume this is what Sony will look like now that they are getting out of the mobile game? Its the Sony of two years ago.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] _katho_:
So you want a terrible buggy experience like other brands have instead of something that will work smoothly? Got it. :D
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Mons1990:
Let's see... It would not be the first time that a Sony update turns a phone into a disaster. It happened very often with mid-range phones, high-range phones were not affected by this, let's see what happens now that it seems Sony is no more interested in smartphones marketing and claiming. ICS update on my Xperia Sola turned one of the most advanced phones of its period in an awful garbage.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] NYC_ROCK:
You work for Sony dude? I clearly laid out a point of comparison. The fact that Samsung, HTC and LG have all worked on, internally tested, submitted and had their software approved BEFORE Sony was able to get out their own build straight to their customers is a joke.

No, I dont want a buggy experience. I want, no expect, Sony to have been able to put out a smooth, well tested experience before their competitors were able to get it through the PIA US carriers and all their add on bloat. Thats the market they play in. Their competitors ate their lunch. I guess its not surprising though. Given where Sony finds itself at the moment.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] _katho_:
Sony have never been quick with latest Android-releases so you've bought the wrong device if it's so important for you, there are plenty out there so don't be so upset about a software update, life goes on, dude.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muzab a:
Agreed but i do think sony should communicate with its consumers as to whats the progress on lollipop (not eta)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Mons1990:
They said that we would have received Lollipop in the early February, as stated here. That's not a serious behavior. If you are uncertain about the release date shut up instead of giving false promises.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] ro_explorer:
I wonder what people are expecting from Lollipop. The phone is already stable and super fast, w/o lag. The back and front glass will not become more durable with Lollipop ...

Other than this it will still be Sony skin on top of regular android .. so just install a Xperia theme of your choice (lollipop even) and move on. When the update will come ,it will come and that's it.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] _katho_:
No, it wasn't a promise, it was an initiative to deliver it in February, that was the official statement. Learn the difference between initiative and promise.

I still don't get what the big deal is, but apparently it is for some.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] :
It's better that Sony releases a stable version instead of a buggy stockrom, and I believe they've put some efforts towards that.

Many manufacturers have been struggling with buggy Android L stock roms, with issues such as memory leaks and more.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Tracy1988:
NO you're not honest at all. Do you want to get technical with me? I can go in the Z3C system folder and give you a long list of Sony crapwares right now.

First explain these:

- MyXperia and Android Device Manager?

- Music/Video Unlimited Sony store and Google Playstore?

- Before FW.77 update, why the Z3C came with Baidu which connected to some IP in China and send some of my info, location to over there. Spyware?

FYI I have LG Optimus G E970 and Samsung S3. They have way less bloatwares than the Z3C and use less system RAM too.

I'm entitled to my opinion. You can kiss Sony for all I care but if you want to get technical about this Z3C crappy display and bloatwares, let me know.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] :
MyXperia have been implemented earlier than google made such a feature available. Google embedded device manager acc. to Wikipedia back in August 2013 and there were APK's for Xperia Arc S of myXperia around February 2013. I believe Sony includes this due to convinience for past customers that have had Sony phones.

Music Unlimited / VIdeo Unlimited is a Sony service that offers ondemand video and there's plenty of other manufacturers that bundle similar software with their devices. It may be a bit inconvinient but atleast you can disable it, so that the software no longer views relevant artists etc in music player.

I bet the Baidu software was a misstake but I do not think it's great that it's even there in the first place, heavily embedded into the framework. It's a little bit disturbing, but remember that Google also logs a ton of data for the sake of advertising.

Also, it seem's like you don't understand how Android memory managment works, as the ram usage does not matter that much. Sometimes having a lot of used ram is actually good, as it makes the overall system snappier due to that apps are being cached in memory. You can read more about it here, it's about taskmanagers but it kinda goes into why free ram is not always good:

http://www.howtogeek.com/127388/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-use-a-task-killer-on-android/
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] ro_explorer:
I was following your explanation until you brought up Samsung S3 in the picture. To compare the "crapwiz" bloatware (which is embedded in the system's inner files) with some bloatware that can be removed independently it shows that you're not technical at all.

I'm sorry but I do not trust your "technical" approach.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Mindwipe:
It's pretty disappointing that Sony let it's release window go past without even a comment and a new ETA tbh. I appreciate that sometimes testing happens and things don't quite meet deadlines, but that's no excuse for a lack of communication when you're already late compared to your competition and have contradicted your own statements on release.

It just feels rude to customers.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] jerverg:
Where is my February Lollipop update Sony? Sad that a company like this snacks on its own words as if nothing.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] baste07:
where oh where is our lollipop
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] michyprima:
honestly I already knew they wouldn't deliver on feb.

Pretty disappointed since pretty much every other major brand did.

Thing is KK is running so good I'm not willing to change it for an unstable version of LP just because it's 5.0 ...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Chadie:
Kitkat has a wakelock bug when i use the controls on any bluetooth headset. So yea.. I'm waiting for v5 so that i can use the expensive bluetooth headphones that i bought without worrying about battery life. Sue me for wanting v5 at the soonest.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] michyprima:
I was referring to AOSP-based roms, like cyanogenmod. Obviously the official LP the sooner the better!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Zwulf:
It was said in early February that it will come in March because of problems in Lollipop source (not Sony's fault). You should read recent news before complaining. Samsung users know these problems as they already got that update... I prefer a stable system instead of a buggy one but pushed out early.

You can still use CM12 if you can't wait.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1839215/xperia-z3-is-to-receive-lollipop-update-in-march/
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] ltdan166:
Not only the bluetooth ones, any in line controllers can trigger the wakelock. So when I'm afraid of using my headset for anything except play/pause.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] jerverg:
It did not say anywhere in the article that Sony says sorry about Snacking on their words about February Lollipop release. All it says was that they're fixing some issues.

Expectations were set. They didn't FORMALLY say it would be moved and to what date. Who knows? Late May? WTFROFL Sony.

Better for Xperia to die so people won't expect update than keeping people wait without any confirmation.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] XQC:
Yeah, Sony should send an apology letter to every customer in the world, each single one officially signed by Sony's CEO. And also a free PS4 as atonement.

/s
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] kzchy:
Chill out. Lollipop update is extremely ugly and meaningless. Only FEW icons have been refreshed, just too many design elements from older firmware versions. Basically nothing new, looks awkward and stupid.

It has the very same UI with the exception for settings menu and notification center (they actually are material). As for me, I will of course check it out once it reaches my region, but after that I'm quite positive that I'll be willing to install a much more clean-looking CM12.

Thanks.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] xDD64:
I think Sony's lollipop update looks rather nice, very much like stock, especially if you use the right launchers. I like that they didn't adulterate it :)

Hope it arrives soon
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] serajr:
Today at MWC or at Xperia Blog!

23.1.A.0.632
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] granbonobo:
I can't believe my eyes: they still have the same icons for phone and message!! Probably the ugliest looking icons in the history of cell phones. Thank god you can change them. My Alcatel One Touch 301 had better icons...

Such a beauty it was...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muzab a:
Cool story
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Sadman Khan:
A LITTLE different :P
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] pipspeak:
Yeah, I cried a little when I saw those fugly icons, which suggest the apps, too, will be just as ugly and design-less as they are now. Does Sony not employ any graphic designers?!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] cyphomatic:
I still don't give a rats ass about 5.0.2. It is known to have a huge memory leak, wich will probably be fixed in 5.1 maintenance update. Even Google own nexus 7 is useless with lollipop now, also nfc doesn't work. Sony should take all the time needed to provide a decent rom. AOSP would be welcome. Their tv-devision is running a clean android tv version. They should only care about hardware, something where there very good at. And thus, leaving software to its core, but very reliable.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] ray_J13:
don't like the quick setting from lollipop, need 2 steps to pull down quick setting toggle
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Gabewithkungfugrip:
The quick settings pull-down in lollipop is accessed exactly like it already is in the xperia skin... one finger for notification menu and two fingers for quick settings.

This is the most unnecessarily negative thread I've read on xda in a while btw. All the entitled talk and bickering at each other about things that are ultimately speculation is a little ridiculous. Just be patient and happy that you're getting an update at all.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] kzchy:
You're right at some point. But how exactly this thread is UNNECESSARILY negative? People are only reacting to those ridiculous things Sony is doing. I'm not talking about the availability of the upcoming update, but the firmware itself. It is rather unchanged and considering those few UI refreshments Google have brought, rest just doesn't fit in. All those icons, dozens of bloatware, even plenty of system icons and usefull Xperia apps are exactly what they were on KitKat (or very close to it).

So why be happy, bro? CM12 will indeed make me happy, once it gets a little bit more reliable for a daily use.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] :
I love Sony's Lollipop 5.0.2 :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] devil188:
You..didn't even tested it yet?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] krugu:
Z3c Lollipop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ipfFJ2Q5og&feature=youtu.be
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] spiaggefredde:
thank god the phone app is changed a bit

let's hope for the contact one :P
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Tracy1988:
Thank you for taking your time explaining and the link. You're right I don't understand much about how Android memory management works but I can see that Android background apps/tasks can consume battery in sleep mode. After I've done lot of readings since I switched to Android from iOS and had hands on with both systems, I've come to conclusion that iOS manages memory better than Android and Android device should be better with less background processes, especially unesesary apps/processes that I'll never use preloaded by OEM - Sony in this case.

Even tho I'm a noob when it comes to Android system but I'm in IT field on Windows. As a person who has knowledge of Windows OS and computer hardwares, I'm just pissed when thinking such a reputable company as Sony sold me devices that made with below standard components. Not once but 3 times - ZR, ZL (made with TFTs but not listed in specs) and this Z3C crappy touch panel. I'll upload some picture of it (visible grids) so you can see for yourself.

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I agree with you about Samsung "crapwiz". However, answer these:

- Does out-of-the-box Z3C have less bloatwares than the S3?

- If the Z3C couldn't be rooted then how can its bloatwares be removed?

- Was it a good purchase when you had to wait for a root exploit without losing DRM keys and some function of the phone so you could remove the bloatwares you didn't need?

Don't be sorry when you jumped conclusions.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] ro_explorer:
Windows has nothing in common with android. Think Linux.

1. yes, definitely less bloatware

2. most of it can be removed by simply deactivating/uninstalling the respective apps. Not being embedded in the framework, it can be simply deactivated/uninstalled. Of course, not 100%.

3. I'm not waiting for any exploit ... I'm simply unlocking the bootloader and move on. On Z3C I did not unlocked anything ... I'm usually waiting for a month to see if the phone does not have any fatal design flaw so I can return it w/o any fuss. After the 1 month trial period I'm plowing in full speed :).
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tofu-:
i'd be on cm12 already, but i use the camera often :(