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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] internetpilot:
Lollipop or not the Note 10.1 2014 can never truly replace a laptop/desktop like my ASUS T100 already has in my life. In fact, it also easily replaced my Note 10.1 2014, by basically making in obsolete. There's simply no reason to have to deal with multiple operating systems when my tablet and desktop PC are both running the same OS.

And I use the touch interface on my Windows tablet rather frequently (scrolling, browsing, selecting files and starting applications), but when it's time to bang out a lot of typing, I'm doing it at an easy 40-60wpm on a true hardware keyboard with a touchpad mouse, which is something the Note 10.1 2014 will never see from Samsung.

I have no reason to even glance in the direction of an ultrabook or MacBook now that I have the ASUS T100 any more than I do my Note 10.1 2014 . I do have reason to laugh at people who overspent and yet are doing less with their device than I am, and that includes my own two college children who both have $2,000 MacBooks and spend the vast majority of their time in Chrome Browser.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] GldRush98:
lol, keep telling yourself whatever you have to to justify your ****ty Asus tablet.

You couldn't PAY me to use another half baked Asus trainwreck.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] internetpilot:
Exactly my point.

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If...IF...it ever gets here.

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I don't have to tell myself anything, I'm already sold. And if this is ASUS half-baked, then it would love to see ASUS at full-baked, because I'm already loving the half-backed version far more than I ever did my Note 10.1 2014, which still won't accept the latest OTA update simply because it's rooted but still running the stock ROM and stock Recovery. Yeah, yeah...I know...just subscribe and download it from SamMobile, right? That's not even half-baked -- that's just stupid, and I shouldn't have to do that just because I want full root/admin access to my own device.

Yup, can't wait for Lollipop, so my Note 10.1 2014 will refuse that update, too. So much for the "more open ecosystem" of Android. I might as well have an iPad.

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I'm contantly switching back and forth between Lollipop and Kitkat ROMs on my phone, but I almost always end up back on Kitkat (CM11) because it's more stable and just works. Since I bought an Android tablet (Acer A500) several years ago, I don't really mess with my phone that much anymore, so I just need for it to work when I pick it up, and not have to constantly watch it or search out bugs, etc. I'm pretty much settled into CM11 for the duration on my phone. I don't think Lollipop is going to give us much, if anything, on the Note 10.1 2014 other than to just say, "Look, I'm on Lollipop."

I'm still happily running Win 7 on my desktop PC and probably will not update it to Win 10 (at least not right away), but I'm loving 8.1 on this tablet, and my wife (who is also career IT) likes it on her touchscreen laptop. I've modded things up a bit by adding the Classic Startup mod (and wow -- didn't even have to root/void the warranty...go figure!), but it was more about just getting used to it. I don't use the whole Metro UI thing very much, especially not since that's what was so appealing about this tablet -- no more being limited by scaled down tablet "apps". Just running full desktop applications. I was also a long-time holdout on Win XP, because I really got deep into it for tweaking. There was definitely no reason to update it until Win 7 was a relatively mature product. I purposely avoided Vista.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
To most the net book experience (a 10 inch desktop environment), is a painful and frustrating experience which is why tablets overtook net books. That's why I called you a minority, but if it works for you kudos to you. To me it's a downgrade in experience. A bit like how a friend of mine absolutely loves British ales and another loathes them. It's a matter of taste...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] internetpilot:
And again, my 10" Windows tablet running a full, desktop touchscreen OS is simply not a netbook, no matter how many times you continue to refer to it as one. You also keep saying that "most" people feel as you do, but that is simply not my experience with "most" people in my life (both personal as well as professional as a career network engineer). Actually, the only "people" who have referred to Windows tablets as painful or frustrating is one -- you.

The complaints I hear by far are concerning moving data around a desktop, tablet, and phone which all have different operating systems. Windows tablets take away a huge chunk of that pain and frustration rather than adding to it.

Back more on topic, Lollipop isn't going to do anything toward resolving this issue. As Android devices become more and more locked down like iOS devices, it's only going to make things worse -- not better. This is exactly the reason why I was so quick to abandon an expensive Android tablet for a Windows tablet. Even remaining with an Android phone, my life is so much easier now that I actually feel stupid for ever buying an Android tablet, especially when this specific Windows tablet has been out for just as long.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] wkoffke:
Why here, but MS has gotten smart and adopted the Gillette marketing approach. Give away the OS and sell data, office apps ETC. I like 5.0 on my LG G2 and want it on my Note 10.1 2014. Also looking to put SlimLP on my Tab 2 7". Also just got a Win 8.1 laptop and can't wait for Win 10 to fix it, clunky UI.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] md1008:
I feel you on the security becoming more and more locked down. However I am confused as to how is moving to windows a better solution
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] clouds5:
Hey man I respect your decision to go for windows. I thought about it myself but the os just isn't ready in terms of apps and usability on the go - at least for my needs. But I feel like you didn't buy the correct device for what you need with the note 10.1 2014. You say you have to type alot and you like to use a touchpad mouse, which means you do your work at a table and not really on the go.

The main feature of the note 10.1 2014 is obviously it's handwriting capabilities through the S pen. And that is the only reason to get this product in my opinion. There are much faster, cooler and lighter tablets available if you don't need the pen... Sadly there are basically no options if you need the pen. I'm a math teacher and this tablet has been a revelation for me. Writing math with a keyboard just sucks. Period. So being able to write with a pen and still have all my stuff digital and compact is just perfect for me.

I don't care if samsung wants to support this tablet or release a new note 10.1 but I really hope they do one of the two, because it feels like we are standing still... better yet a competitor like Asus, htc, sony, even apple decides to make a useful pen supported tablet. Then I could finally move away from samsung.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
Most people as in most sales. Tablets took over netbook sales by an order of magnitude (There is a reason why Windows on those inches do not sell well.)

Netbook: A desktop computer of 11 or less inches.

Very precise terms. You are using Desktop apps on a Desktop environment, with Desktop DPI (Desktop DPI = one used by Desktop computers i.e. less than 200). A netbook by any other name is still a netbook.

Not everyone is into netbooks, the people around you (and some odd ones that I know) are. Still I prefer a Macbook Air 11.6 as netbook/small laptop, more battery, you lose touch, but touch is not very useful on netbooks anyway.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] internetpilot:
Yeah, well you seem to be stalking me from thread to thread with your rather fixated claims that I own a netbook rather than tablet. So rather than go through the deja vu, I'll just end this little debate before it even gets started with the same message from the previous thread:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
Well actually I merely replied to your post. I was reading info about lollipop and bam someone came who likes laptops. I don't even know why someone who likes laptops would come into a tablet forum and spam his views.

The reason that I replied the same way (it) is because I reply to nonsense with the same tone of disbelief... anyway I don't mind your views, I only hoped to show to you that you're off topic, but you don't seem moved by reason. I hope a moderator would see your post and clean up this thread. I'm not into reporting, I like to reason with people but apparently it doesn't work with everyone.

Anyway both of our posts are off topic. This thread is about lollipop and having it used on Tab S it is awesome so here's hoping that Samsung won't do us over.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] internetpilot:
Well, actually this is the second thread that you've said (spammed) the exact same lecture about netbooks, and the other thread my post was completely on-topic since it was regarding replacing the Note 10.1 2014 with a Windows tablet (which is exactly what I did with the ASUS T100).

In this thread I simply posted that I gave up on Samsung/Android and their long overdue updates, and moved on to a Windows tablet. You (and a couple others) are the ones that took the thread completely off-topic with opinions/preferences, and your continued accusations that my device is a netbook. And yet you call my posts "nonsense", and post repetitive, off-topic replies in an arrogant, condescending tone as if I, a 20-year career network engineer, don't know what tech device I purchased? And that's "reason" to you?

It's not that I'm not moved by reason, it's simply that you're not providing any to the topic, and two threads and many posts later, I still do not understand why you feel the pressing need to continually lecture me about netbooks, which I have no interest in, do not now nor have ever owned, and was not discussing in the first place (off-topic or not).

Move on and stop the stalking. Unlike you, I do report people.

Back on-topic, I also own two Tab S devices, and can barely even tell that the update took place. The only thing that has noticeably changed is the method for dismissing notifications. Wow. Amazing.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
[MENTION=3561052]internetpilot[/MENTION]: You seem to be the one obsessed with our talk, I scarcely remembered ours or you personally up until you pointed this fact out.

Anyway, you're like a car enthusiast coming into a motorcycle enthusiast forums thinking that you make them a favor by trying to turn them away from their "punny" , low powered machines. Boasting about the speed and power of yours whilst forgetting (or indeed not knowing) its *glaring* downsides. On the other thread I tried to explain them to you, but you were always gleaning them over, leading me to believe that you're either a paid shill or someone with very little comprehension.

Most of us have been laptop/desktop OS users for years, even decades, there is a *reason* why we chose a tablet this time around. We're no fools and frankly it's insulting that you imply that we are, especially with such weak arguments.

We're a band of enthusiasts who will modify, engineer and turn our machines into sth very specific. There is no place here for your ancient generic machinery and you should stop peddling it, it's rude and insulting. There are windows forums for you.

If you wish to report me do so, all I did was to try stopping you from taking over our threads with your dribble, using reason and reason alone.

Peace.

BTW I believe that both our posts should be deleted. Yours for being inflammatory , mine for trying to stop the flames but ultimately none had anything to do with this thread.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] internetpilot:
I'm obsessed? Uh....no. Worried that I apparently have picked up a forum stalker? Definitely.

But you really cannot help yourself, can you? Now you're arrogantly speaking for the entire forum, who you are assuming believes everything to be exactly as you see it. Gee, did you have trouble picking out an XDA forum name, Mr. "TheGreat"? Somehow, I doubt it. None of my posts were inflammatory at all, whereas your latest response is chock full of glaringly blatant insults.

Regardless, I don't feel too badly being off-topic in this thread though. Do you hear the crickets? Yep. There's no one here...especially not anyone with any official news from Samsung. If nothing else, we're generating advertising page views in an otherwise dead thread. Frankly, XDA should be happy.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] ¿Will-it-Blend?:
Kinda agree with Steve here. [MENTION=3561052]internetpilot[/MENTION] everytime I come to check on this thread,or get notified, I always see your post about your ASUS tablet and how great it's been. That's cool and all, but when I come to this thread I wanna see things related to the note 10.1 2014 and lollipop. Not 3 paragraph essays about why you feel windows and ASUS are better.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
[MENTION=3561052]internetpilot[/MENTION]: Look this is not our thread to make it our own. Even it has very little traffic, it's being drown from our irrelevant posts. There's PM for this. I'm only posting here in the hopes that you'd finally stop and let people with actual lollipop news to write here. Apparently it didn't work, at least I tried.

As for "stalking" you. I did remember a bone headed windows guy from back in the day, but I had no idea it was you, I'm not good with remembering usernames, up until you quoted yourself of course. As for my username it's obviously ironic and in jest.

Anyway enough with the off topic. If you have something to talk about lollipop write it here, if not don't. Next time you get reported.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Aquarianperry:
I have an Asus T100 too, yeah it's good but it's not a tablet it's more like a small laptop to me with the option to use it as a touchscreen only windows device. Windows need to really step up their tablet game if they want the OS and available Apps to be taken more seriously as an Android tablet/Ipad rival.

As for the Note 10 2014 edition getting Lollipop, I just hope Samsung is taking their time and fine tuning it so it's doesn't fudge this great pro tablet up.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] internetpilot:
You're only posting because you're the personality type that has to have the last word and insists that everyone view everything you're way. Neither is going to happen, so it's time to get over yourself. You want me to stop posting? Then simply stop replying to my posts, especially contradicting things I've posted and insulting me.

Thank you for proving my point about what I've been saying about you all along in two different threads.

Again, your audacity knows no limits. You're not a moderator here, and like you said yourself, this isn't even a thread you started. If you don't like what I post, skip over it and move on. I don't post here in attempt to obtain your approval of my opinions. As for reporting me -- too late. This thread (and specifically you) were reported 6 posts ago. If this particular device forum wasn't such a graveyard, a moderator would've already stepped in a long time ago.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
See, that's the issue I can't ignore you. I came here to read about lollipop news, instead I found most of these last pages filled with some random windows guy's posts, boasting about his mickey mouse device. Obviously it affects the quality of this forum when threads are derailed so much.

I hoped that showing how different your device is from ours would at least let you understand that you're off topic. Apparently I was wrong and I'm sorry for that. I should had reported you in the first place. Here's hoping that a moderator will delete both of our posts.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] internetpilot:
Shocking as it may be, sometimes threads here on XDA get (brace yourself) off-topic. My initial post on the subject was very brief and relatively on-topic (rather than wait on Lollipop for this Android device, you might want to do what I did and move on to a Windows tablet). I wouldn't have had to post longer replies if a certain few people (one in particular) hadn't felt the pressing need to blatantly criticize my choice/solution, post completely wrong information about the device I mentioned, and even directly insult me. In other words, sorry, but I'm simply not going to take it it up the posterior from forum bullies/know-it-alls in order to remain on-topic in, let's be honest here, a relatively dead thread. Other than maybe 1/2 dozen posts theorizing about when/if this tablet will get the Lollipop update, this is nothing but a gripe thread anyway.

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PM me and I'll send you instructions for how to to press the large button at the top of the keyboard so you can remove the TABLET from the keyboard dock. Windows tablets don't need apps -- they can run real applications. To grasp the concept of a Windows tablet, you're really going to have step out of the app-centric world of Android/iOS tablets, and realize that apps were created to mimic a small portion of the functionality and capabilities of applications. In other words, applications are the original, superior, no compromises, serious solution. The fact that applications are now available on truly mobile tablet platform is a great thing, not a bad one.

Haha...nice recovery. Don't anyone lecture Aquarianperry, because his last sentence actually was on-topic!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
Well to be fair I have not personally insulted you, I don't even know you, it would make no sense. I called you bone-headed as in "stubborn" because you insist on the same points even when they've been proved wrong beyond any doubt.

Let me re-iterate: "Desktop OS, Desktop Software, Desktop DPI"

Let me unpack it further. A Desktop OS was created for Desktop use, yes it can/could change into one which is amenable to touch, which Microsoft kind of achieved.

Desktop Software: software intended for Mouse & KB use. They're hard to use on the go without the aforementioned peripherals.

Desktop DPI, DPI of less than 200, small elements, hard to be used via touch, again require the use of peripherals.

You use *that*, which is what I called a laptop. Your device *could* be a tablet if you were using the modern UI environment, but as you admitted you are not. Thus you're off-topic, thus you lower the quality of this forum.

And I called you stubborn because it's so hard for you to understand that.

I don't mind that you like what you like, I mind that you're in denial and ultimately into the wrong forums.

Understood now? Obviously I can't stop you from posting here, but I can *implore* you to think of those things before posting, you're polluting a perfectly good thread for no good reason.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] internetpilot:
Thank you, XDA forum software, for having an Ignore feature. This is heaven! Hopefully a moderator will be by soon to delete all of my replies to the person added to my ignore list, as unfortunately I cannot do that myself.

To the thread subscribers, I humbly apologize for getting caught up in that and posting so many off-topic replies. I promise this will be the last.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] wisepage:
Well, that escalated quickly!

:)

So I assume no actual news on the LP update then? I really hope we do get it. Would love to squeeze a bit more life out of mine. Not that it's bad on KK of course.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] torickray:
If u need keyboard, just get a bluetooth keyboard. Works perfectly with note 10.1. However, i don't think a 10 inches device is suitable for office use. Hard to read for full page view. That's why netbook failed. I'll buy a 14 inches laptop for that purpose.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Gian Tech:
now May and June are gone... and still no lollipop for my 10.1 2014...

I am very upset about it! we are waiting too much! Now is July and no official excuses comes from Samsung, so i consider we are alone and i can wait one more week before stop to be a Samsung customer anymore! :(:(:(
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] lecorbusier:
I have seen an official bulletin a couple of weeks ago, stating Q3/2015. So maybe LP on the Note gets released alongside M on luckier devices.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Shanghai.Knight:
I love my Samsung 10.1 2014. Love my Samsung phones. have 4 of them.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] ultramag69:
I have 4 or 5 too, but I'm getting sick of this stupid KNOX Bullsh!t... And now with the latest phones they aren't region locking anymore but putting out different models the world over that, though they have the same hardware, aren't capable of running another model variant rom...

Makes suggesting these devices to others a little harder to do when they seem to be going out of their way to exclude the developement community...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] OcainD:
Theres no lollipop yet?

I think i should buy a nexus 9 becouse i think that samsung will not update our note 10.1 2014:rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] supergrobi94:
At the moment Samsung has started to update the “big brother“ the Note Pro 12.2 with 5.0.2. Let's see, the month has just started. Maybe there will be something coming.

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] OcainD:
Well lets only wait

Maybe samsung is developing 5.1.1 for this tablet:D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] guthrien:
I would have liked to have gotten the S-Pen enhancements from Lollipop (Note 4) on this tablet. I've got no real complaints about it otherwise, using TouchWiz was always the compromise involved because this was the only mid priced tablet available with a digitizer and a screen worth a damn (it's still very much worth a damn). People who claim no enhancements otherwise from Lollipop I assume were basing that on other TouchWiz devices, which are admittedly awful and not very improved. But the SPen works on this tablet, and works well. There was nothing comparable until the new Surface's started showing up, and Samsung has shown me now that they won't support anything besides their devices that get real attention, so I won't make the same mistake again. Done with their phones, done with their tablets, but this is still a great device that held up well for me. Feels far more future proof than early iPad's I bought.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] OcainD:
Thats right, samsung somethimes only update their most famous devices,this tablet have a good hardware,screen and samsung didnt update it, anyway i think i will sell it and buy a xperia z4 tablet or even an ipad air 2, sorry for my bad english

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] kornelius1982:
Maybe someone takes care to port 12.2 LP firmware for p600?

I know there is difference in cpu platform, but there should be the way.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] guthrien:
I know this is irrelevant to most who don't want to lose the SPen enhancements, or go through the trouble of setting up an alternative system (which you can do for a lot of things), I'd urge you to do what I did after reading this thread and check out where CM is on this device now. I did a backup and put the latest Temasek build on this and holy sh#t. This has come a very long way since I last tried it. I guess I will have Lollipop on this tablet after all. Again, I know it's not for everyone, but I'm not locking in to SNote or Scrapbook anymore anyway so for me it works, and it's very impressive.