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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] abuduri:
Am trying to upgrade my trinity with this radio ROM image but everytime i run the Romupdateutility, my phone gets disconnected and hence the update utility does not detect any USB connection and so my phone is left at the Bootloader SSPL tri-color screen.

I even tried running the hard-spl but same result.

Am i missing something here? Please let me know.

I have installed the LSVW WM5 ROM image which has GPS enabled in it and also have the bass boost drivers installed.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] boz:
I meant to say gprs! :o
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] boz:
Are you trying to run it with bootloader screen? if so try it connected to ActiveSync as normal and just run it as Hard SPL is already installed , remove any cards and soft reset it first. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Halldor:
I had the same problem! I solved it by going to on my TyTn SETTINGS>>>CONNECTIONS>>>>USB TO PC and UNCHECK Enable advanced network functionality.

Hope this works for you?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Halldor:
I have much better reception after I installed this radio ROM and I notice an improvement in the battery life also. I live outside the city so I can not access EDGE where I live and unfortunately we have no 3G yet. But last evening I tested RADIO 1.34 and was able to drive pretty far outside the city before being cut off the EDGE network. Today I did the same with this radio and was able to drive over 2 kilometers further then yesterday.

What a difference in reception. Is it really possible that the difference can be that much.:confused:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mshagg:
Installed this radio last friday and gave it a good workout over the weekend.

Significant improvement in battery life. Now shows correct UTMS, HSDPA etc icon. Reception is better than ever.

Very very happy with 1.38!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] abuduri:
This is what am doing...

1. Download the ROM rar file and extract it on the PC

2. Connect my phone to the PC via USB and Activesync connected

3. Run the ROM update utility on the PC (go thru the check boxes and click UPDATE)

4. SSPL tricolor screen shows up on the phone and is immediately disconnected from the PC (Activesync connection lost).

5. ROM update utility reports error that it cannot connect to the phone and so cannot continue.

Also, on my phone, SETTINGS -> CONNECTIONS -> USB-to-PC has "Enable Advanced ...." UNCHECKED.

Am i missing a step here?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mshagg:
Eek. What bootloader is on the ROM? IIRC the RUU exe for radio rom didnt go to the bootloader until flashing started, when it came up with the white screen showing flash progress. This was with 1.01MFG bootloader.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] monx®:
Work flawlessly with WM6 just like v 1.27.

I'm in malaysia using Maxis operator and i really loves this radio ver.

Thanx pof!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jeRrRKKKK:
anybody here got wierd reception meter issues?

my 838pro now keeps on showing 1 - 2 bars only but i'm able to make/receive phonecalls without any problems... used to be at least 3 or 4 bars at the area i'm at
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] abuduri:
This is getting very confusing :confused:

Current State of my Trinity:

Have LVSW's WM5 ROM with GPS update and bass driver updates

What i want to do

Update my radio rom with this new rom here

Problem am facing

As soon as i run any kind of RUU utility on my PC (with my phone connected to PC and Activesync connected), i see a tricolor SSPL screen on the phone and phone is disconnected from the PC. RUU utility ofcourse now complains that it cannot see the phone and hence error is reported. And hence, am not able to proceed with the ROM upgrade.

What i want to know

What am i missing here? Instructions says to flash HARD-SPL, but even there it is the same problem (of phone getting disconnected from PC immediately). Should i have something more installed on my phone? Should i enable something in some settings?

Please help me out here ...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mshagg:
OK, bear with me... im very new to all of this!

Can you tell me what Radio bootloader you have? I understand there is an issue with some later radio bootloaders which make it difficult to upgrade/downgrade radio roms.

I will do a bit more reading and report back. Like i said, im still very new to all of this :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] masa9881:
Flashed succesfully. Thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pof:
@abuduri: this radio is for hermes, for trinity read here.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] randomelements:
@gurubumsmack

Yes, I'm in the UK.

I too had problems with 1.34 after going back to it from 1.38 - I ended up hard resetting the phone and 1.34 is now OK.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Halldor:
I am trying to figure this problem out with you?? Here is what I would do:

1. Download latest version of activesync. Here http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/activesync/activesync45.mspx

2. Make sure that Enable advanced networking is unchecked on your Trinity.

3. Connect your device to the computer and make sure you get a connection via activesync.

4. Run the RUU and see if you are able to complete all steps now.

What operating system are you running on your pc?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] DAFTEK:
Well after a few days of testing i noticed immediate drain of the battery, it was so bad that i thought my battery was bad... Also i kept getting disconnected and in Chicago had a hard time getting a signal. I think this is only for the people on WM6, or maybe on Cingular... The best battery life and reception for me so far is on 1.35 so im back on 1.35 now and i love it..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] sdam:
Haven't anyone noticed?

Guys, this is a Hermes radio.

Even if it worked, I gather it would render the GPS unusable...

-s.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
Yes, and no. The radio that ends in .n1 is with GPS. If it ends in .n0, does not. This thread is for 1.38.00.10 which has no GPS support.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] aublumberg:
Improved GPRS / HSDPA latency

Have applied this 1.38 radio rom today and noticed that the HSDPA / GPRS latency seems to have improved. In the IE browser pages are loading faster, and an AvantGo sync takes less time with the new radio.

On the other hand the download speed seems to have slightly gone done, maybe by 5 - 10% compared to the 1.27 radio.

Using https://text.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1 the latency is < 1 sec (used to be 1 - 2 sec in 1.27) and the bandwidth is around 750 - 800 kbps (used to be 800 - 850 kbps in 1.27).

Personally I favour 1.38 since the lower latency is more condusive to internet browsing and downloading reasonably small sized data volumes.

Will watch battery consumption next ... too early to tell.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] sdam:
But of course, Sir.

This is exactly my point. Since it is a .n0 radio it will effectively render the GPS unusable, by not offering support for it.

Why don't they just switch threads, to the .n1 one?

Although, I suppose, flashing a trinity with a .n0 radio and then trying to have a working GPS could, in some unpredictable ways, help that other project, porting the GPS capabilities to Hermes. Now that would be fun to try ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gurubumsmack:
I've got some major problems then because even after a hard reset I'm still having these issues.:(

If I dial the handset from a landline I get a pause, then the mobile starts ringing but all I can hear from the landline is a series of beeps. Making calls from the mobile is a non starter.

But if I force the frequency band to GSM, it works perfectly without any issues.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] randomelements:
I just checked and re-flashed 1.38 to see if I had the same problems. Sure enough, calls redirected to voicemail straight away and calls from the mobile not able to connect.

Going back to 1.34 again.

It's strange that you're getting issues after hard resetting.

I have heard that the 3G side of things can cause problems with calls. There's obviously an issue with this in the UK.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gurubumsmack:
Its really strange because the 3G signal strength is being show as a full 5 bars, but when I force GSM signal strength drops to around 2 bars.

I recall having the same problems with Orange 3G and the Nokia 6630 ages ago. I switched to GSM and left it there. A few weeks later, I switched back to 3G and lo and behold everything was fine.

I have a feeling its something to do with the fall back to GSM if the 3G signal is too weak. But would this be an handset issue or a network issue?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] abuduri:
Am using 1.38.00.11 (for Trinity) but reported my problem on this thread instead by mistake ....

I did download the latest Activesync 4.5

Advanced networking is unchecked in Activesync in my trinity

I connect my phone to the PC and i do have an activesync connection

Am using Windows XP SP2

My main problem

I run Romupdateutility.exe, click all checkboxes, and click on UPDATE... After about 3 secs, i see the Tricolor screen on my Trinity and i lose the connection to the PC ... My problem is not with the version of the ROM am running .... It is this problem of losing connectivity with the PC as soon as the tricolor screen comes up.

Before LVSW WM5 ROM upgrade ....

Before i upgraded my phone to LVSW's WM5 ROM with GPS, the connection to the PC would not show up a dialog box on my phone. I would just see a status indication. The Romupdateutility.exe went smooth and as expected for the WM5 ROM upgrade ...

After i upgraded to the WM5 ROM, whenever i connect the phone to the PC, i see a small dialog box on the phone that shows the USB connection status and then goes hidden when its connected. And with this "new" USB connection is where i see the problems. As soon as the phone goes into tricolor screen, PC loses connection with the phone (as though USB cable was plugged out).

So again, ..... Am i missing something in the new ROM ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] randomelements:
@gurubumsmack

It's got to be a combination of the network and hardware talking to each other when this rom is installed.

I've just gone back to 1.34 and it's ok again. Calls coming in no problem.

When I updated I did notice that it was having problems retrieving network settings (I was looking at call fordwarding etc to see if I could work out why stuff was going straight to voicemail).

What radio have you currently got on?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Aardvark1978:
I've now got a nice brick

Flash failed at 55%, reflashed following the recovery instructions, now displays NO GSM at startup and sticks on windows mobile screen.

Tried everything in the common upgrade problems, still always resulting in NO GSM and sticking at windows mobile screen. :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gurubumsmack:
Radio is version 1.34.00.10.

I can send and recieve texts no problems and retrieve phone settings like Call Barring etc. Problem is making and recieving calls and obviously no Internet access.

If I force GSM then all my problems go away, but its no ideal for data useage. Its like being on 56k!

I've tried 1.38 and 1.27 Radio ROMs and all have the same problem. Previously I was using the 1.18 Radio included with the SA HTC 1.35 ROM without any issues.

I'm getting these problems from my home address btw, which was non existant with the 1.18 Radio.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] randomelements:
If you've done a hard reset and reflashed the radio I just don't see why the problems are still there ???? :( Beyond me I'm afraid.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gurubumsmack:
Will be out and about the next few days so I'll see what its like then.

If it turns out to work fine then I can put it down to my home location and a network issue. Can have a nice phone call to T-Mobile then.

If I get the same problems then I will be utterly stumped!

Thanks for your help randomelements.:)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] asz344:
i have been using it on vodafone pay as you go since the 15th and so far so good NO problems all ..it works better than the 1.27 for me ,,,

thanks

asz
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gurubumsmack:
The plot really thickens now!

Went to work (5 minutes down the road) tonight and had zero problems! Was able to make calls and my data connection was working perfectly.

Walking home chatting to my girlfriend up to my front door and again, no problems.

Just been sitting in my room awaiting a call from her but this time the problem returns. Phone rings but when I go to answer theres nothing there. She later told me that she heard the beeping sound.

What are the chances of something in my home causing interference? I have a wireless access point but surely this can't be causing the problem?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
This is an intersting issue. You were not seeing this happen with an earlier radio? If not, then I would wonder why your house has something against this radio!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gurubumsmack:
I was previously using the SA 1.35 ROM with 1.18 Radio without any problems.

Going to flash to the 2.11 ROM now but I'll try disabling the wireless completely tomorrow and see what effect that has on things.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] andi0:
Downloading now, have a noticable battery drain, hoping this will fix
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] abuduri:
(with reference to the "losing activesync connection on a tricolor screen) Thanks for all your help folks :) ... i ll try posting this issue on the "1.38.00.11" thread. Am still seeing the issue ...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] DeniaL:
OMG. I INSTALLED 1.38.00.10 RADIO and the slow startup with iGuidance 3.0.1 is FIXED!!! Can anyone else confirm this!?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gurubumsmack:
Well, disabling my wireless network has zero effect. Still the same problem.:(

This time though, when I phone the handset from a landline, the Vario II rings but when I listen down the landline I get a message saying "You have dialed an incorrect number" :confused:

This is with the recent HTC 2.11 ROM by the way.

Going to meet my girlfriend later so will try making a few calls in town and when I get back to her house.

If it works perfectly in those locations, I will be utterly stumped as to what the problem is as it might be that its perfectly fine apart from inside my house!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jcespi2005:
Hi all.

I upgrade from 1.35 to 1.38. All goes good, the upgrade finish and the phone reboots, but now continues saying the version is 1.34.

Anyone with this issue?

Thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
I am not sure about this, but you may be confusing the OS ROM version with the Radio version.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Halldor:
Sounds like you need a new house!:eek: This is strange indeed!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] brucewilsonpa:
pof can this be flashed to an XDA-Live modified phone? I tried but got error msg. so decided not to try again.

Thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jcespi2005:
Sure not.

Anyway, i try with 1.38.00.11 (GPS Enable) and works good.

Perhaps i make a mistake with the upgrade process.

Thanks anyway.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
Something had to go very wrong to produce a 1.34 with a 1.38 installation after coming from 1.35. Anyway, all's well that ends well.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] MrDSL:
Yes because I have with no problems..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] brucewilsonpa:
Thanks MrDSL -- did you install Hard-SPL first? I noted that this would change my system to a version 2 instead of the 3 which I believe is WM6, so I didn't install it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] LinoX:
HardSPL and system versions are unrelated :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gurubumsmack:
Right, think I'm going to have to knock my house down.

I've gone into town (approx 1.5 miles from my home) and guess what? Calls and data work perfectly over 3G! Back at my girlfriends house right now and again, zero problems.

Think I'll have to investigate and see whether my walls are made of lead!

The only thing I think it could be is the cell coverage. My home must be right on the edge of one but 10 minutes down the road and I'm in another cell.

Think I'll have to phone T-Mobile up on this one!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] randomelements:
At least it doesn't look like a problem with your phone or the radio itself.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gurubumsmack:
I was worried that might be the case at first, but the fact I can make and receive calls at other locations tells me its purely a network issue.

Might knock on my neighbours door and ask if I can come in and make a call on my mobile tomorrow. If that works but fails when I return back home.... I'll cry.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
You might also check to see if their phone works any better (if it is the same network).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gurubumsmack:
Good thinking.

I'll pinch my girlfriends 6233 (3G) and test it with that at home.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] reo:
Hi

i had the Radio 1.14 then i updated it to 1.38.

i noticed that my calls are much better quality however i noticed a strange increase in the amount of drop calls.

any ideas why ?

also which is the most stable radio rom for Hermes.

i currently have the Live XDA version OS of WM6 loaded.

reo
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
Maybe more people are haning up on you now that you have a phone that works! :) :D :) :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] reo:
ha ha .....

My luck.....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] armedmetallica:
they hear you now, and realize just how boring you are!

j/k. i've had problems with my stock 1.18 doing this to see if it helps!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Mesh:
Experience with new Radio ROM so far:

- Left for work this morning around half past nine. Battery was on 70%.

- Only called a few times, no data transmission

- Left for fitness this afternoon around six. Battery was still on 70%

- Turned on Live Messenger, connected using UMTS.

- Left for home after fitness around half past seven. Battery was around 40%

- Got back home around half past eight, made few more calls and messenger was still on. Battery was around 30%

So far I'm pretty impressed with this new Radio rom. But need to test it some more.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] randomelements:
@gurubumsmack

Just occured to me last night that this is most likely an aggressive form of the "dropped calls" bug that we see on some radios where calls drop when the phone is trying to fall back to GSM in weak 3G areas. If the 3G is particularly weak in your house at the moment (maybe there's a local transmitter issue) then this may be how it's manifesting itself.

Must admit, I've been noticing a few issues here at work (I'm on the 24th floor of a notoriously bad building for reception) but as soon as I get outside things are okay.

I'd definitely have a word with TM to see if there are any local issues.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gurubumsmack:
Seems to be ok at my home today! Am able to make and recieve calls on 3G.

Think it must have been a local transmitter issue.

Used this site: http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk and discovered my house is pretty much slap bang in between 2 UMTS transmitters.

Will be keeping an key on this and if it happens again, I'll be straight on the phone to T-Mobile.

Radio ROM seems good though. Data connections are established a bit quicker for me and battery life has improved.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Maysbach:
sorry for this newbie question but what is the different between GPS enable and GPS disable!?!?!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] LegolasTheElf:
duh, one has GPS enabled and the other doesn't? Please read the wiki and the appropriate threads, then if it still doesn't make sense, ask again with some content indicating you've at least TRIED. i.e. EXPLAIN to us what you think you understand, and we'll fill in the gaps.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Maysbach:
ok I give a try :)

GPS enable

makes u able to use a virtual port for some other tools which are using GPS-Data......i.e. Tom Tom and some other stuff in the backround

GPS disable

u are only able to use just this one port for your gps-mouse or hardware

is that correct?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] LegolasTheElf:
No.

There is no way you've read anything about the GPS radio's in the time it took you to reply to my post. :mad:

Seriously, do us all a favor and don't play with your phone.. I predict that if/when you try to flash the radio, you will brick your phone anyways. So, given that, it doesn't really matter WHICH rom you use. Flip a coin.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Maysbach:
it`s not my first time flashing my XDA :D

and it`s not the first time I flash a mobiledevice ;)

I appreciate your answer and commandation I had Radio 1.34 before but I guess I will take 1.38 without GPS and still use my bluetooth GPS mouse
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ach2:
I'm guessing you're asking because of the difference between radio rom 1.38.00.10 (gps disabled) and 1.38.00.11 (gps enabled).

I haven't read too much on the gps threads because I'm not interested in it, but my understanding is:

Hermes phones are theoretically capable of running as gps devices without an external receiver. However the internal antenna isn't good enough to receive the satellite transmissions. The hardware could be modified to improve the antenna but the cost and complexity (and guaranteed voided warranty) make this impractical - therefore xda gurus have stopped developing this.

GPS enabled allows that part of the hardware to receive satellite transmissions (but no good bacause of weak antenna).

GPS disabled does not allow the hardware to receive satellite transmissions.

I use the 1.38.00.10 rom because I don't see the point in enabling hardware which won't work anyway.

I'm probably way off the mark with this - but if you're really interested this try reading these threads http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=295751.

Also, as LegolasTheElf says - do some reading before flashing your phone - it'll save bricking it and also loads of $$$$
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
After a couple of days with this radio, I am noticing better battery, but many more dropped calls than 1.27 (which has been the best for me so far). I will leave it for a couple more days and then decide if I want to change back or not.