yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto G General] silverdroid:
to all the people claiming that the people who have got L are not active on xda/not rooted/etc

How did these guys manage to get the OTA from Motorola in the first place.

Last i heard only amongst those who register for soak test, the selected few (who are active in MDN network .. and should provide good user feedback) got them.

So does it mean that people who got OTA are active on MDN and not on XDA or that they got it by pure sheer luck?

Whats the point of releasing an update to those who dont know what a custom ROM or even a ROM is?

PS: if you call yourself a dev and have android L Indian OTA on XT 1033 then you are definitely a script kiddo!
[Moto G General] MasterAwesome:
Firstly, people who are in the soak test are not supposed to leak the ota. And, an update is just to tell us how close we are to getting the Android L on our phones. So, calling people "kiddo " is pointless; they're helping the XDA community and you should try doing it too.

Regards.
[Moto G General] Vedarshi:
Top kek.

Seriously, nobody from India bothered to capture it. Selfish noobs.

I got frustrated and flashed the Brazilian version this afternoon.
[Moto G General] MasterAwesome:
Guys like you decrease the amount of faith in humanity. You just called a bunch of great developers and testers "noobs" because they abide by the laws of the company by not releasing the ota.

Keep your thoughts to yourself. This thread has become a place for hatred and flaming all OP tried to do was create an awareness about it. Deal with it!
[Moto G General] OldYellowBricks:
Just don't be surprised as to why people are so puzzled as to why the brazillians got to capture the OTA, and not the Indians, because statistically speaking, the number of indians that post here and ask stuff here, and develop stuff here (or build roms) are high so it kinda does not make sense that they weren't able to.

We have to be reminded tho that they're not obliged to, but so are the Brazillians.

If this thread is free for all, then we're free to speak up about this too.

It's like y'all feed on others that do stuff and help y'all on xda, but when the time's for y'all to give back, y'all run away. (this is assuming the soak testers get/are on xda, and from what I've read, they are.)

and the truckload of people that ask for the OTA are from y'all part of the world (statistically speaking).

Truly, I mean no racist vibes here.

But hey, you can always flash the Brazillian firmware if you're so eager to try
[Moto G General] deepayanneogi:
I kinda agree, not a single Soak test zip from indian xt1033, disappointing.
[Moto G General] CedricAndroidlover:
Stop pointing the whole country just for the sake of OTA. Please close this thread.
[Moto G General] asusm930:
Bout 2 fuccin bomb these OTA threads
[Moto G General] moralesnery:
The frog guy appeared

You know when the frog appears the thread is closed. So..
[Moto G General] asusm930:
What did u seh to me?
[Moto G General] SA3DX:
Yet me called a kiddo was completely okay. Actually there are tens of threads that cover the damn subject and don't give an OTA link. Well, except the Brazilian ones. And tbh, all those threads and this thread is complete BS. The soak test should have been in XDA news and not flooding the forum with crap threads. Didn't you guys ever learn to use the search button to search if there are threads like this already? Apperantly I "the noob" which knows coding ( C, C++, Java, JavaScript, Python) and makes himself ROMs without sharing them to the XDA forum knows that.

This is XDA. New posters and people get stomped on for the sake of great developers/testers. And from the looks of this thread no one said they were great. And now what? Brazilian developers and testers are not so great because they released it for us? This is pathetic.
[Moto G General] MasterAwesome:
Firstly, I never called you a kiddo nor did I call you a noob. Your pretentious boasting of knowing so many languages doesn't serve any purpose in the comment. I'm trying to reciprocate by saying stop hating the OP for not posting the link. This is just another of the notice threads. I'm going to stop this argument here. There's no win here and I'm going to attempt to be in peace with you.

You're understanding is all wrong mate, reread the stuff I posted. I never tried to put anyone down, all I said was that you should reduce the hate against the Indians for not uploading the ota.

Regards
[Moto G General] SA3DX:
I didn't say that you called me a kiddo. The OP did. And actually the boasting has a reason. Not ever noob is a noob. And heck call it newbie. I bet the OP doesn't know half of what I know about coding and Android yet goes calling others noobs and kiddos. And of the notice threads, stop it for XDA's rules sake. I go into tons of threads that all serve the same meaning as a damn notice thread. It's already NOTICED.
[Moto G General] MasterAwesome:
I'm just saying 2 wrongs don't make a right. So just deal with it and let the haters hate. Peace out.
[Moto G General] SA3DX:
Well, I edited my comment two times already. And dude, I'm not hating on you, but it's like you're the OP's lawyer.
[Moto G General] sirtbhopal:
Who was this shouting NOOB NOOB & crying in this quoted post ?

Requesting to active Mod. again to close this thread since its moving towards baseless discussion.
[Moto G General] sirtbhopal:
You only started to target me without even reading the thread subject and teaching me the Rules.

whatever knowledge you have, its useless. Keep it in your pocket.
[Moto G General] vikaseth:
Guys get this guy have indian soak test with unlocked bootloader may upload his recovery backup of lolipop ,do any thing to catch them -https://plus.google.com/105720685786895659668/posts/JnULHVbuZ9D

I got them here .and i already beg ....
[Moto G General] SA3DX:
I'll have to thank BSers like you that won't let me take the knowledge out. Thanks to you and people like you people like me don't post anything because the community doesn't deserve it. Not all of it, but surely people like you don't.

---------- Post added at 01:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:01 PM ----------

Actually, you have shown that you illiterate too. It is clearly stated that it's a rant.
[Moto G General] sirtbhopal:
I agree, you declared in start only that what's you are going to prove about yourself. :victory:

No more comments needed on this topic now i think. :p
[Moto G General] vikaseth:
Please stop fighting , this is not a place for this
[Moto G General] helinhof:
I don't know what's funnier

the frog memes or this pointless arguing.
[Moto G General] MasterAwesome:
Why not both?
[Moto G General] brainscollector:
I would rather see whole Moto G section locked to time of official lollipop release than read dozens of posts every day of bs dumb kids that shout for OTA capture/I did something and now I have bricked phone/how to do something (that is explained even in OP or in many posts in thread or another one)/crying/typical bs that fill 90% of every thread.

DEAR MODS, PLEASE LOCK MOTO G SECTION AND MAKE IT READ ONLY TO TIME OF LOLLIPOP RELEASE
[Moto G General] SA3DX:
Finally a person that agrees that threads have gone to ****. Awkward enough the mods seem to be dead, or seem very amused with the conversation going on here. And OP, if you want to quote me you better do a good job of doing that. Noob.
[Moto G General] asusm930:
what did u seh to me?
[Moto G General] ankushv:
Wait for a few months ... Once most Indians will have their warranties over .. Then they will root and then you can talk about capturing ota's about the latest android being pushedoff Motorola's servers .

The phone here in India costs a significant amount of money , hence the hesitation in rooting it for fear of loosing warranty as rooting can only be done by unlocking boot loader and only Motorola can do that for us .

No offense intended to anyone .
[Moto G General] SA3DX:
Lol, a few months? Dude, you don't get the idea of fast updates do you?
[Moto G General] sirtbhopal:
^^ +1 You got it right bro, :good:

Noob who received this phone in Charity , could not understand the fact. :D
[Moto G General] kingnfs:
hi

i think that its possible

to take

Blur_Version.220.21.16.falcon_umtsds.Brasil.en.BR.zip

and change it to Blur_Version.220.21.25.falcon_umtsds.AsiaRetail.en.03

and change in the build prop

maybe use the old gpt

finally it's the same phone

what do you think ?
[Moto G General] brainscollector:
Dude, you don't get how life works and don't get how basic marketing works (and a lot more). I really still can't believe how peoples are dumbfooled to put 100% trust in very basic marketing tricks. Motorola is not exception. "fast" updates means there will be update fast enough not to be last from everyone else. They are safe now, they are not in danger like last year where Motorola was step before collapse. As everything has to repeated 76148971294 times here - Did they updated newest moto X ? Yup, but not all, just few. Did they updated newest moto G ? Nope, not at all, test is not update. Did they updated last years moto x ? not, not even test versions available. Did they updated GPE ? yes, because it's GPE and it don't need to be cut into parts like stock version where it's not even split into different countries but even on separate regions (oh I bet almost nobody knows that, for example not whore EU has update in one time but that depends on markets/regions it was sold). Mostly the less aknowledgeable peoples are the most crying here about posts like this one because it ruins their vision.
[Moto G General] SA3DX:
Actually the Moto G 2nd gen was the first phone to have lollipop and yes, globally. So your argument is invalid. And that MDN subscription sucks, I opted in and didn't get a damn survey. All I want is that instead of making useless threads, either do something and give a link or shut the **** up. It's become a blog around here. Not a developing forum.
[Moto G General] vikaseth:
Friend yesterday Motorola invite for suggestions to lolipop in india one of my friend say are u have similar news ..?

He got lolipop soak update on second batch.
[Moto G General] admax99:
those members who are directly getting the soak from 4.4.4 to 5.0.1 are requested to share the OTA zip
[Moto G General] sirtbhopal:
Yes, One of my friend who is on official soak test (1st batch) got the survey mail regarding this.

Actually Motorola sent a common survey mail to all Soak testers regarding feedback and also for apology on delay for lollipop update.
[Moto G General] admax99:
please ask your friend to share the OTA
[Moto G General] sirtbhopal:
He wasn't on unlocked boot-loader & installed the OTA at 5th Dec only. :rolleyes:
[Moto G General] SA3DX:
I never got an email. Could you at least care and share the survey link?
[Moto G General] sirtbhopal:
Kindly read my post again i din't recieved that *** mail,

BTW anyhow i manged to get this link for you..

https://www.surveymonkey.com/survey...9rQGfEhBwBAL2/1tqK7ieskyPGMvkmNfCZcuOgcjPd8OU
[Moto G General] SA3DX:
Thanks for the link but.... I got this.. "This registration option for the Motorola Feedback Network is now closed.

To get signed up with the new registration process:

Please register on the Motorola Owners' Forums

Opt-in to the MFN during registration or from your forums profile, where there is a link.

Register your products with the new registration process"

Which is stupid because I am already registered in MFN and my device is opted in!
[Moto G General] sirtbhopal:
Ohh is it so?

I'll ask motorola to release a fresh link.

Till time try this..

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=248Jh06CxhhIPO47mmUz8g_3d_3d
[Moto G General] SA3DX:
Damn it. I really like that you are helping. But still I got this from that link. "This registration is closed. Thanks for your interest." This is depressing. I'm sorry if I am making you mad.
[Moto G General] admax99:
did check this earlier.. had also received an invite for the MFN and then replied to the survey .. after that there is no news .. lets hope someone has got the OTA zip for usage by us
[Moto G General] sirtbhopal:
@29 Dec, more soak tests are going to be rolled out by motorola.

Just cross your fingers to get the OTA & circulate among we peoples.

I am not much desperate now for OTA, because Brazilian OTA is there as an option, and official will come soon.

"There is life beyond .com" :cowboy: :p

Chillax, Enjoy the Christmas..
[Moto G General] vikaseth:
I will right every forum every social networking site to grab ota link any how this time becoz it is not a matter of wait it is a brain storming. For me ,not read or wright any thing other then search for lolipop.why i dont know
[Moto G General] Sri2702:
Any news about the 2nd Gen G? :p
[Moto G General] sirtbhopal:
No, Wait till monday.
[Moto G General] ficki yahya:
Theres a lot of speculation here lol ...... And yet... Xmas has past .... But the ota hasnt arrives ...... And yet againt, indian soak tester has already 5.02 updates, and what ia funy, no one therewant to share the ota .....
[Moto G General] deeplyyoung:
5.02??¿ really, how you got that news bro...and yes no Indian soak receiver shared any ota links... Whereas from BRAZ we getting the same....
[Moto G General] rr46000:
Update

All the Indians who got the update didn't have an unlocked bootloader i guess

What i think is motorola is giving the update only to locked bootloaders so the probability of sharing ota is less

Moto made a mistake with brazil users and they captured the ota ,they dont wish to do it again

I don't think so anyone got 5.0.2

The person who got the ota and installed the indian firmware can still share a twrp/cwm backup

My apologies if this view has already been shared
[Moto G General] naszrudd:
and yet no indian twrp/cwm backup, yet.
[Moto G General] sirtbhopal:
I agree, since i have not seen any user with Soak OTA who are on unlocked bootloader.

And yes Brazil OTA was released prior to India, so might be Motorola working cautiously now.. huh.

sent from myphone.
[Moto G General] ficki yahya:
Theres a way to full out, the ota zip wihout root. I have read those on onther post.

I think its simple, most of indian people who are in soak test is not in this forum, and i have read that motorola cancelled the batch update for indian soak test, because the tester give a confusing feedback, its ao raddiculus.
[Moto G General] sirtbhopal:
Yup, the same information i have, that Motorola extended next batch update for India.

Can you share the Way to get the OTA out without root?
[Moto G General] Sri2702:
Well, what do you mean by "extended next batch update"?
[Moto G General] brainscollector:
Learn English then :) there will be another one
[Moto G General] Sri2702:
It's not that I don't know English, but what ficki said was "I heard Motorola cancelled the batch update".

Sirtbhopal quoted the post and said he has the same information and went on to say the batch test has been extended. Both the statements are contradictory. That's why I asked sirthbhopal to elaborate a little. :)
[Moto G General] modifan14:
I am also a soak tester.The moderator of the private Motorola Soak Testing Community(Official) had said a few days back that the soak test scheduled to release on 29th Dec for a large no. of soak testers who didn't get the update in any of the 2 phases has been cancelled due to unproductive/confusing response from the soak testers.He also said that there might be a release (very unlikely) although most of the bugs have been fixed by Motorola.

So,I don't think there will be another update.There should be a direct final release around 15th January
[Moto G General] Sri2702:
Cool, thanks for the info. Is that same for the 2nd Gen G, as well? And, release is unlikely? :eek:
[Moto G General] totoybibo:
is this what you people talking about?

http://www.carbontesla.com/2014/12/moto-g-xt1033-android-lxb22-lollipop-220-21-25/
[Moto G General] naszrudd:
please tell me u got the OTA file for indian soak test.

10 more days to 15 january, phewww.
[Moto G General] modifan14:
That's the brazilian ota for 2nd phase of Lollipop soak test.

---------- Post added at 05:53 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:47 AM ----------

I don't have the Indian ota zip because I tested the 5.0 version only and after that I converted my XT1033 to GPe as it's more stable.But I am still a member of the official soak testing community.
[Moto G General] modifan14:
I guess so because soak tests for both 1st and 2nd Gen were released simultaneously.

Anyway, here's the post of the moderator of the official Motorola Community for 1st Gen. Don't spread it.It's confidential.:cowboy::cool:
[Moto G General] Sri2702:
Thanks, modifan14. :)
[Moto G General] nirmalbalaji:
This is what happens when we have unexperienced persons in private beta software testing. There is no much use with the guys with locked bootloaders who scare to do testing for an alpha/beta OS. They simply complain too much about the particular issue like slow GPS, bluetooth sometimes not working or Wi-Fi issues. Some users are even worse and can't even understand what is ART or its benefits. They want Dalvik in Lollipop because apps are consuming more space than before. LOL. Seriously?

The reason for the Lollipop delay is because of these kind of users (mostly Indians) who can't give any constructive feedbacks to Motorola regarding the bugs in 5.0 and 5.0.1. It seems Motorola have been testing many of the features and bugs themselves apart from the soak testers to have the clear idea about the stability of the OS.

I was invited for the soak test on the last week of December and that update has been cancelled as the person above said. I just simply left the Motorola forum which is mostly bunch of useless testers who want a rock solid Lollipop even in the alpha/beta stage. Now I was on KitKat waiting for the official final update of Lollipop.
[Moto G General] miklosbard:
You are totally misunderstanding the purpose of these tests. When a software reaches an almost final state, the people testing it are too familiar with it that they sometimes don't recognise small issues, because they lived with them for months. Here comes the usefullness of the random people, to whom everything is new, they want to explore it, and match it to their previous system. They are the ones who instantly realize if a new lag is introduced or a feature is working differently, or something is missing they used. This is not a beta software and of course miles away from an alpha. This is what the companiies' testers think is almost ready, probably some dedicated bugs left in to be able to count the potentially left unknown bug numbers with some heuristic algorythms.

The problem here as I understand was, that the common people, who got these invites couldn't express their problems on a way that helps development. Also, as it is stated above, a number of these people gave feedback that showed serious issues, however most of the others didn't see any problem there. This means that the devs had to investigate these cases and check, if it is some hardver or specific usage related issue. This takes time. Don't blame the people for being who they are, be happy that motorola takes this kind of testing so you, as a customer only receive a quality software.
[Moto G General] Sri2702:
I completely agree with this. Just take a look at the Motorola Forums and you see countless people ask when they will get the update and some people even create threads requesting them to be selected for the Soak Test. Many people have opted in for MFN for just one purpose: Not to give feedback, but to get Lollipop before others. These kind of people don't care about feedback, all they want is Lollipop.

I also learnt from a soak tester that, few of the new soak testers who didn't get the update are abusing in Hindi on the private forum. Only happens in India. -_-
[Moto G General] nirmalbalaji:
Motorola requested them countless times to report the bugs and issues on English and they are still continuing in speaking their regional languages that can't even be understood by the other Indian state users like South Indian guys who speaks Tamil, Telugu and other. Thats an another headache to deal with them for Motorola devs.
[Moto G General] nikolov47:
Then why they didn't invite anyone from UK/US? Its simple as that.

And to be honest... I also joined the MFN with the idea to get the lollipop update faster, but now my only will (if i got invite of course) is to help Motorola release this update ASAP for everyone. I just want everyone to stop asking about the lollipop update... It's getting really annoying duh!
[Moto G General] nirmalbalaji:
They should have invited people from US and European countries like they did for Moto X 2nd Gen. Moto X 2nd Gen soak tests were finished very fast. The rollouts are pretty fast globally for that device. May be a marketing strategy? I guess so.

Moto X 1st Gen users are the most unlucky. They are feeling like having a cheaper device day by day with no news about even the soak tests. It's a device that punched and beated Nexus 4 in the face when KitKat was available.
[Moto G General] gnubash:
I'm ****SURE*** Motorola said they were releasing 5.0 pre-2015? Never mind - I tried it, and the battery life is disastrously poor, and thankfully I'm not champing at the bit for an "upgrade", just for the sake of it. I perceive little benefit, having exhaustively tested 5.0/5.0.1 TWRP backups, and the loss of battery is pathetic.
[Moto G General] vNa5h:
Also no xposed, Viper4Android etc

Tap-a-talked from the MOTOG
[Moto G General] Sri2702:
There could be one reason. Moto X 2nd Gen is not a budget phone and almost most of its users in India would be over 22-25 years age. Which meant, they are more responsible. Moto G, is a budget phone and hence the userbase may start from, say, 16? That's a lot of kids with the phone and lots of kids in MFN. That's the reason you see people abusing them in Hindi and losing their minds over a update.
[Moto G General] brainscollector:
Just like in MFN mod report update, everything is fine for everyone except for indians and indian phones... coincidence ? I don't think so. I'm not here to abuse Indinas or make them worse but let's face the truth. Now let's stone me bacause I dare to say that

http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.co....PNG?key=KZaiCdihPepltVNPzzQusg&ts=1420566573
[Moto G General] Semseddin:
I agree you in one way but its better not to mention nationality over all of this. Be that indian or anything else, if one could ever take a backup of an existing mfn test ota release, they would share it with the community. It's just not about the indian nationality, it is about indian moto g owners, that's a rare coincidence in this case. People who are used to use samsung or micromaxx phones can become tend to be delicate about warranty issues since they didn't own many motorola phones in the past. I for myself know that motorola phones are made to last even the cheap moto g is included in that list. I believe no indian motorolan fellow who is in the mfn test program available in our community at the moment, that is why we didn't get ota from india mfn test program. I know of so many good and sharing full indian motorolans from the v3 days till now. This is just a coincidence that we don't have any indian moto g owner sharing a ***ing ota file with us.

This phone resemble the good old E398 and E2 to me with its price point and design language and materials. Functional and cheap simply made to last. We can all enjoy the Brazil OTA 5.0.1 which is already available for the whole moto g community, be happy. Lollipop is just another android version. Nothing at all. :cool:
[Moto G General] sirtbhopal:
Agree with You.
[Moto G General] sirtbhopal:
New Update

Just now Motorola updated release note with 220.21.28 - India where all Soak testers are on 220.21.25

Seems like a final update ? or another patch for existing soak testers...

https://motorola-mobility-en-in.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/102775

Might be an OTA for all, since posted on official Release Note.**
[Moto G General] sirtbhopal:
Another Confidential Update :P

herez the official news from motorola for soak testers..

Keep This confidential :cool:
[Moto G General] Sri2702:
That means you got the 220.21.28?