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[Nexus 9 General] Semantics:
The only area that I noticed in my short time of using it was battery life, but I didn't even get two cycles in on the battery before sending it to HTC for repair for the buttons and light bleed.
[Nexus 9 General] Infamous512:
My main issue with the nexus 9 is the buttons and light bleed and possibly could of had 3 GB ram. I had no issues with the performance. I can't speak on the experience of others but YouTube always opened slower on every Nexus device I had. Other than that it was golden for me. I give iPad props for build quality, although I have no issues with the build quality the N9 is supposed to have. I feel like it grips way better. iPad performance isn't dead on all the time either. Granted I do think it's more consistent though.

I'm speaking from my needs of the tablet though. I don't game on my tablet, I have consoles for that. I use it to browse the web, watch movies and TV. Apple iOS bores me and I just don't like it. If they made an iPad with Android it would be perfect lol. To me, getting the N9 for $100 less makes sense. I prefer Android, save money and the performance is more then adequate to me. I feel like sometimes people get too hung up on things being perfect or without flaw. Nothing ever is.

Yes, iPad is better which is why is cost more. But how much better? I don't think the gap is that big. I see a lot of people saying the N9 costs iPad money but it doesn't. I think the money trade off is worth it but that's just me. But yes, google and HTC messed up the launch, that is undebatable. I think once that gets sorted out the N9 will be just fine.
[Nexus 9 General] Semantics:
Good post. I got the 32GB version at Best Buy with a 429 dollar Amazon price match and 30 dollars in rewards coupons I had. I feel like its a good deal. I was on the fence about the 4:3 screen ratio, but I absolutely love it. It's one of my favorite things about the tablet. Comics/Books look amazing on it. I'm very happy with the tablet aside from the buttons and light bleed, which we both hope will be fixed by HTC.
[Nexus 9 General] Infamous512:
I got mine 16gb from Amazon for $350 no tax, free shipping and $50 google play credit. So for $300 I think its a great deal. I was iffy on the new ratio as well. It bothered me at first watching Netflix but I got used to it and the ratio is way better for pretty much every other part of it. Plus I have Chromecast and it's a perfect match for me
[Nexus 9 General] natsinicky:
After play store giftcard, et al, I've paid $300 for this thing. The size IS a little different, but not horridly so. The issue for me is battery usage- it must be defective, because after about 2 hours of normal use, it's nearly run dry. Aside from that, I love the thing, but I pretty much have to use it plugged in, if I want to do anything that actually makes the device work.
[Nexus 9 General] jsgiv:
I am extremely interested in your opinion as to whether or not HTC has resolved the issues or not. I got the 32GB version when it first went on sale during Black Friday rush for about the same price as you. Unfortunately my unit had all of the reported issues. I was willing to live with the light bleed and "springy" back issues. The buttons were a little concerning. However what really killed it for me was the heat while browsing, battery performance (imho directly tied to the heat issues), and extremely long charge times (8+ hours overnight and it was still at 78%).

I use my tablet 90% of the time simply web browsing and keeping up on sites and news. Occasional game or two.

I obviously returned mine and lucked into a good deal that same week on an iPad mini 2 ($229 for 16GB model).

The good - unit is flawless from a hardware perspective - especially compared to the N9. And I consistently browse up to 10 hours on a single charge with no heat issues at all.

The bad - I LOATHE iOS - period. Can't stand it ... If there was an alternative device out there similar to iPad mini or N9 with the same (or close) build quality as the iPad with lollipop on it (hate Samsung touch wiz as well) and he company keeps up with android updates - I'd be first in line to buy it.

So what's next? If the N9 build issues can be addressed - and price comes down a bit - I'll buy it. Otherwise, if HTC actually builds a premium device along the same lines as N9 with no issues... Sign me up.

One other option I'm looking at is the Nokia N1. Though not sure how I will be able to get one here in the states.

Hoping they fix your unit correctly. :)
[Nexus 9 General] Semantics:
They shipped it back to me yesterday, when I get the tablet back, I'll update here and let everyone know if it's worth sending back to HTC. :)
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
If you dont see it then you don't have it
[Nexus 9 General] Infamous512:
As will I. Hopefully the delay in shipping doesn't take too long
[Nexus 9 General] maconsultant:
Thank you, i also called HTC and they offered for me to send it in to them, but i said let me try t-mobile first, if not then ill try HTC. I am eager to hear you experience, and i feel with some development this thing seems like it can fly.!
[Nexus 9 General] ram130:
Since I got my iPad mini 2. I haven't plugged into iTunes once. No lie. Thought I would too. But there is just no need.
[Nexus 9 General] volwrath:
Until you have to upgrade and you have only 1.8 gigs free but need 8...
[Nexus 9 General] ram130:
Then I'm glad I hardly run that low. Hence buying for your needs.
[Nexus 9 General] di11igaf:
Are you jail broken?
[Nexus 9 General] ram130:
Nope. Haven't found a need yet.
[Nexus 9 General] di11igaf:
Say you wanted to download music or a show or movie right from the device, is there any way to access filesystem on device to play said music, or would you have to go through iTunes? I'm assuming not, since I'm sure apple still doesn't allow any type of filesystem access, just curious. This was one of the major things that I hated about my iPhone way back when. Even if you managed to get music downloaded, there was no way to play it, unless you were jailbroken or went through iTunes(which is one of THE WORST pieces of software in the history of software, imo)
[Nexus 9 General] Semantics:
You must just use it for browsing the web or as a media consumption device. I actually like to move my own files to my tablet, books/documents, and various other things. Try and do that with an iPad. If all you are going to do is browse the web, and stream Netflix, and download the occasional game, I'm sure that an iPad is fantastic. Let me know what happens when you want to move some of your video files, music files, ebooks, etc to your iPad. I'd be interested in seeing how that works out for you. I actually use my tablet for both entertainment and for productivity, the ability to plug a tablet into my PC and get access to all the files and folders and drag and drop to and from them can't be touched on an iDevice. They're fine tablets, I know this, because all the guys I work with bought them for their kids, and they all love them.
[Nexus 9 General] sale 83:
I just did that a few days ago, my cousin wanted some songs on her iphone, that I had on my pc...10 stupid songs.....google how to add music to iphone, Install itunes, open it, create a folder, find songs, put them in the folder, connect the damn iphone to pc, sync it, find a bigfoot and a unicorn,wait for a world peace, find a life form on other planets, find cure for aids and cancer, and then you'll have it added on your device....wtf.
[Nexus 9 General] ritchea:
Or even better, just go into your android file manager, set up LAN, then move files back and forth without plugging in. Having played around with iPad for a few weeks, that's my biggest complaint with iOS.
[Nexus 9 General] oooMrFrank:
Nexus 9 is amazing! :laugh:
[Nexus 9 General] tzuyang:
Force GPU rendering

I enabled the Force GPU rendering for 2D drawing on developers settings

it seems to run faster with less lag on app switches etc.

is it placebo or can someone else confirm this?
[Nexus 9 General] mkygod:
Sounds interesting. I'll give that a try for a few days to see how it goes. Hopefully the battery life doesn't suffer as a result.

If this actually helps, than that could explain the homescreen refreshes you sometimes see. Possibly something to do with the switch between 2d and 3d rendering.
[Nexus 9 General] di11igaf:
Launcher already uses hardware rendering, same with most apps. By default they use the GPU. I'm pretty sure you used to have enable GPU acceleration in the app manifest, now its default and must be declared not to use it if you don't want your app to. Basically that is an old setting for when GPU rendering was not default.

Launcher reloading is just a memory issue.
[Nexus 9 General] maconsultant:
So i got my replacement and it has less light bleed the power button stills seems flush with the housing, But @ first glance it looks ok to keep.. Now to put it through its paces.. will report back.. same build date as the other 11/28..
[Nexus 9 General] mva5580:
For the first time I actually got to put my hands on a Nexus 9 at Best Buy today, first time I've ever seen one on display. That itself is ridiculous...they can't be selling many of these things if they're this hard to find in stores.

Anyway of course it wasn't even charged/on so I couldn't mess with the software, but I definitely liked the feel of it. I would love to get rid of my iPad and move to an Android tablet and while the form factor of this one felt good, I'm just so baffled as to why 32gb is the biggest size available. Why you can get a 32gb Nexus 6 but not 9, I will never understand. If there was a 64gb 9, I'd probably already own one; I have no interest in owning any non-Nexus Android devices.
[Nexus 9 General] FrankBullitt:
What sorcery is this?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=57685319

Seriously, you guys should try and see if the results are the same to you.
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
I dont see how that can be

unless very light usage

But im keeping an open mind
[Nexus 9 General] FrankBullitt:
If you consider this light usage, then yes, it was light usage. The same one I do every late afternoon/evening on this tablet:

Gmail/Inbox+Hangouts(video)+media apps (power amp with USB otg pen / GPM / Plex), Tapatalk, Reddit (Bacon, Reddit Now, etc), solid explorer to transfer within LAN my working material for tomorrow + Chrome (light usage, only a couple of tabs / sites).

BTW, since day one of Faux thread your attitude towards his kernel is not very positive. You should really see what he already achieved with many older devices. His kernels are legendary and when he decides to invest his time on a device you own you should consider yourself lucky.

Now all we need is a rastapop for flounder... (Although Craig Gomez's lollipopalooza is also excellent)
[Nexus 9 General] Hiro Nakamura:
I don't have critical memory issues either using elementalx kernel with disabled zram.

Not sure how you get to low memory. Even if i open a lot of apps i have more than 300mb of ram free.

Edit: it never shows critical state only normal state for me with normal usage.
[Nexus 9 General] maconsultant:
My replacement is a keeper.. Much better than my original one, seems smoother no crackling while playing youtube or GM. Now if T-Slowbile can ship my nexus 6 already.

Sent from another Nexus..

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[Nexus 9 General] maconsultant:
Now I know some of you said you don't want root your Nexus 9 but please do tell me what you use as far as an ad blocker solution that does not require root because it just seems that more and more ads are popping up all over the web.

Sent from another Nexus..

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[Nexus 9 General] kendrick8997:
I just deal with the ads.... I work in advertising, so... I want people to see my ads, so I return the favor, and deal with the ads.
[Nexus 9 General] Maleficar:
I returned mine because of lackluster performance.

I was really curious about the real use performance being so way off from the benchmark results and did some research.

OMG. The K1 Denver isn't a custom designed ARM, but just a reincarnation of now defunct Transmeta's cursed Crusoe design!!!!

Simply put, it's a VLIW-like GPU that EMULATES ARv8.

All of a sudden, everything makes sense now: primitive benchmarks get cheated by the emulator, complex ones not.

Cheated benchmarks' results are very high, uncheated ones' are very low. And we all know that the latter ones mostly translate to real world use.
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
Need proof

from a reliable source
[Nexus 9 General] docangle:
I recently returned my Nexus 9, I went through 5 of them before giving up, but the following is my observation:

1st Unit - Severe Light Bleed, Back Creaking, Buttons Okay, eMMC (Memory Fast, No Lag)

2nd Unit - Moderate Light Bleed, No Back Creaking, Buttons, Both Volume buttons flush to unit, eMMC (Slow, Lag issues, especially when updating Apps or going to home screen.)

3rd Unit - Severe Light Bleed, Back Creaking, Volume UP button flush, eMMC (Memory Fast, No Lag)

4th Unit - Moderate Light Bleed, Back Creaking, Buttons, Power and Volume buttons flush to unit, eMMC (Memory Fast, No Lag)

5th Unit - Only small Light Bleed in lower left corner (Best of all units), No Back Creaking, Volume UP button flush, eMMC (Very Slow, Lag issues, especially when updating Apps or going to home screen, or any multitasking.)

Test Conditions: Latest OS release, Same Apps, Synced Accounts, and Data across the board. The 5th Unit, I even did Two Factory Resets, because I really thought this unit was the best, but the slow performance just killed it for me!

Conclusion: HTC like all manufacturers source multiple vendors for LCD's, Cases, Batteries, eMMC Memory , etc... But in my love and hate history all the way back to the Wallaby, they have always seemed to source more vendors than other manufactures and they seem to have a wider range of what is considered acceptable (Quality of Construction aside.) The Nexus 9 reminds me a lot of the Flyer (high quality of construction, excellent design, slow storage memory and lack of it, high price) but the lack of consistent components really kills this device. In the end it is just history repeating itself for HTC.
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
Huh??

why quote me

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[Nexus 9 General] maconsultant:
I think he's saying he is the reliable source.. Lol

Sent from another Nexus..

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[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
O ok lol

Im vary reluctant to believe [MENTION=6288493]Maleficar[/MENTION] theory about the cpu

Not being 64 bit

because the laws of logic don't apply to his theory

If need be i will say my understanding.
[Nexus 9 General] R3Lax1:
This is hilarious...
[Nexus 9 General] docangle:
mistake, sorry.
[Nexus 9 General] Maleficar:
Coming soon. Why do you think the full Nexus 9 review is delayed so much at Anandtech?

Those primitive , off-the-shelf benchmarks are so easy to cheat, especially when an emulator is invoked.
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
Right :silly:

Ok so lets use emulators to boost performance of our apps lol

since we are faking performance

Lets fake fps or better yet lets fake our 2 cpu cores into 4 cores

Now that would be somthing haha

Ok so whats doing the emulation

The CPU, Kernel, or ROM

If it where the kernel we would have already found it out.

If it where the ROM... ?? You are thinking in the wrong space time continuum my friend

it just cant be the ROM ... Put it this way if the ROM were doing emulation

Then recovery cant run any 64bit binaries because the ROM is not booted

to do the emulation.

If it where the CPU then why in the world would they make a 32bit cpu that acts like

a 64bit one.. Would it be easier just to make a 64bit cpu and save all the time and money trying to

make 32bit cpu emulated as a 64bit cpu..?? and all this is saying if the cpu can even emulate.

I need that proof that you were talking about...
[Nexus 9 General] cornelious2:
Rule #1 of the internet. Don't feed the troll.
[Nexus 9 General] jarjar124:
For some reason, my RMA performs so much better than my previous. No redraws, stutters, or lag. All stock BTW.
[Nexus 9 General] maconsultant:
Mine does as well.

Sent from another Nexus..

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[Nexus 9 General] Maleficar:
It's an ISA emulator, NOT a kind of kernel simulator.

I hope you are able to tell simulators apart from emulators someday.
[Nexus 9 General] tu3218:
Performance on my nexus 9 is amazing. Fast, smooth, and no lag. Does get little warm on chrome but everything is like butter.
[Nexus 9 General] Hiro Nakamura:
Mine gets pretty warm using youtube. Anyone else noticed that?

If you play videos for like 10min it is already quite warm
[Nexus 9 General] maconsultant:
Yes and any intense games as well.. Some one has posted a possible mod to dissipate the heat a little better but I'm not sure just yet.

Sent from another Nexus..

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[Nexus 9 General] Hiro Nakamura:
I am waiting for a tunable gpu governor haha.

For now i can only tune cpu but thats only half the business if the gpu ramps aggressively as well.
[Nexus 9 General] hongkongtom:
According to this article, http://www.androidauthority.com/fix-lollipops-massive-memory-leak-coming-soon-ish-577101/ memory leak for Android 5.0.1 seemed to exist, even without any monitoring app, i can tell the N9 was less responsive and apps are being restarted almost every time I do multi tasking.

It was smooth as butter when it was at 5.0, hopefully google could come up with a fix asap.
[Nexus 9 General] maconsultant:
Yeah I am awaiting the next update... Can't come soon enough..

Sent from another Nexus..

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[Nexus 9 General] Nishant_Jain:
Mine runs smooth as butter and it doesn't gets hot.

Though it have lightbleed on one edge but m not gonna return mine coz of that.
[Nexus 9 General] maconsultant:
I RMA'd mine because of light bleed the replacement is fine. I'd say RMA the unit with light bleed.. $600+ for something with defects.. No way..

Sent from another Nexus..

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[Nexus 9 General] .vermilion:
I'm getting little memory leaks but I'm getting them. So I'm hoping for an update as well.

Sent from my Nexus 9
[Nexus 9 General] vincepg13:
Disable encryption.... I was going to return my Nexus nexus I was so disappointed with the performance. I mean it was good but it definitely didn't live up to the tegra project Denver hype. I saw the forced encryption slowing down read/write speeds topic so I decided to root and give it a try. 8 days later and im still amazed by the difference. I'm still stock everything, just with root and the modified boot.img which disables encryption. Definitely should be tried for anyone annoyed with the performance
[Nexus 9 General] primetechv2:
I've seen the Lollipop OS bug out too. At first it seemed caused by an app, bedside restarts wouldn't fix it and deleting a bunch of unnecessary apps in safe mode did. Then a memory leak happened a little later in 5.0.1.

Weird, though, 64 bit buggy performance seems to point to an iPad like processor. Looks like Apple finally got Google's beta releases to production down, haha
[Nexus 9 General] Infamous512:
I don't play games on my Nexus 9 but when I first set it up and installed all my apps and such it was getting pretty hot but I haven't noticed it ever since.
[Nexus 9 General] prabandh91:
It's fluid, you don't have to have any doubt on that.
[Nexus 9 General] maconsultant:
It stutters @ times but I am leading towards apps not being optimized and or the CPU being throttled.

Sent from another Nexus..

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[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
I say memory leak
[Nexus 9 General] maconsultant:
That too as my nexus 5 on 5.01 after about 2 days of use would become unresponsive when moving files to my NAS's or copying files over 2gb. I would have to reboot it every time. Hopefully 5.1 will fix it as they said they fixed it. We shall see. But I don't plan to stay on stock too much longer. PA is in development for the Nexus 9 LTE so things should get interesting.

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[Nexus 9 General] Dr. Hurt:
I've only stated getting lags after updating to 5.0.1

It most probably is due to the memory leak problem in .1

Should be fixed in 5.0.2/3 (Google has delayed it for both nexus 9 and 10 due to bugs)...

That gives me hope that Google is aware and working on it.
[Nexus 9 General] maconsultant:
I thought they marked the bug as resolved in a future update in the AOSP bug tracker last week... They are definitely aware of it..

Sent from another Nexus..

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[Pebble] wyelkins:
Join the Pebble beta group for the new 2.9 firmware testing. Actionable notifications are enabled for any app that uses the Android Wear API. No need to run the Wear App. You just need the new Pebble app.

Just bought my Pebble and I felt a little left out from all the Wear Hoopla. Pebble just keeps getting better.

Not bad at all for $79!
[Pebble] justjayhere:
Do you have the 2.9 firmware.. Can you send it to me...
[Pebble] djmvt:
You can get the new beta by joining the g+ group and opt in on beta testing. The beta can then be downloaded from the play store.
[Pebble] imfloflo:
You can find all infos you need on AP : http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-android-wear-notifications-beta-version-2-3/
[Pebble] Mikegrmn:
I found it very hard to find the information where I can sign up. I joined the group on my tablet, been looking in the play store, etc. Finally at work, I logged into google and looked from there in the play store. There I acutally found the following link a day later: https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.getpebble.android?authuser=0
[Pebble] wyelkins:
The new notifications are a big improvement.
[Pebble] justjayhere:
Thank you!!!
[Pebble] wyelkins:
New beta update for the Pebble apk and phone firmware yesterday. No real chance to test it yet, but I will tomorrow.
[Pebble] teresa1kiss:
Hi, I'm totally noob and I just bought my Pebble few days ago.

Wich difference are among Android Wear native support and the Notification Center App? I mean, the Notification Center app already allow to replay with Wear integration or this is what I understood. :confused:
[Pebble] djmvt:
That is correct but the notification center app is a third party app, pebble has this integrated in its own app now, but still in beta. It's what you prefer, both have their pros and cons.
[Pebble] teresa1kiss:
Ok thank you. I think I'll wait the stable version :)
[Pebble] ChemoNL:
I've installed the beta, and so far i am very happy with it.

The Wear support works great and saves an application slot on the pebble.

Thumbs up for the Pebble devs :D
[Pebble] hamiltus:
So to what extent can the Pebble hook into Android Wear ?

Can I use it with apps featuring Android Wear support such as Fly Delta's app with smartwatch Boarding passes ?

I'm just curious what the pebble can access with this new feature
[Pebble] Mikegrmn:
I've got no clue about that one, but apps that support android wear deliver same/similar functions now as they do on android wear watches. If I get an e-mail via google inbox, I can snooze the message, dismiss and such. In google keep I often set reminders that can now be delayed should they pop up at the wrong time or dismissed, too. It's great. If I get an ad from amazon books, I see at a glance on my watch what it is. If it sounds interesting, I either get my phone to check or let it pop up again later. If I don't want to see it again, I dismiss the message.

You can also send canned responses as Pebble doesn't have a microphone (which I'm glad about because I find it rather strange to talk to my watch in public).

I could see myself using voice in the car or at home, but not in public.

I've been checking out sony's smartwatch yesterday, but I couldn't find an answer via google whether or not it's possible to use android wear watches without talking to them. So Pebble is still the best option for me. And today was the first time I had used my watch for full 6 days on one charge.
[Galaxy S 4 Mini Accessories] cuben:
Hello all,

Does anyone know if a replacement back cover is available in metal? Not a case that goes over the back cover but a metal version of the back cover?

Sounds like an awesome idea to me for that premium feel!

Thanks, John.
[Galaxy S 4 Mini Accessories] rkmgz:
I have found some on ebay but i'm not sure if i'm allowed to share the links here, anyway, it's not hard to find them there at all. Good luck!