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[G 2014 General] cuzzo94:
I don't want to sound impatient, i can live with kitkat, the phone is working well and i can wait.

But i think that they shouldn't advertise the moto series as a "nexus like" phone that will receive the update before anyone else if they have other plans.

I've already read some articles about m8's lollipop update that should come early in january, and like it many other manufacturers are near to the rollout, and considering that our moto g runs a clean and stock android version i think that it's taking really too long for this update.

However if they encoutered some issues it's good that they fix it before the global rollout.

Let's hope that we are finally near to the release date :)
[G 2014 General] bhs2x:
Thanks... Will try it out
[G 2014 General] Tomass0:
Moto g may not have been the first this time round for updates but it will still get it before most other phones..
[G 2014 General] GregX80:
It's starting to be ridiculous. I bought my moto g2 when all internet portals started to get crazy about this phone getting lollipop right away - when my nexus 4 died. I should go for nexus 5 not this piece of crap. Only today browser in my phone turned off a few times during browsing, with no apps running in background, because of fraking memory bug about which Motorola doesn't seems to give a single frack...so don't tell me kitty kat works great on this phone. This is first and last Motorola phone in my life.
[G 2014 General] Roni1979:
[MENTION=4435943]GregX80[/MENTION] what do have expected if you buy a phone about 200$. That it will be the same as a 400$ phone? Moto G 2nd is a good starter phone or a little bit more but it is no comparable to N5 or MotoX.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6 mit Tapatalk
[G 2014 General] asyba:
TRUE !
[G 2014 General] GregX80:
Not too much actually, just not killing browser during using it or a quick fix from Motorola at least, if everybody report the same. Is it too much?

My daughters 50£ phone can browse internet without switching off browser every few minutes.
[G 2014 General] gnubash:
My friend, I think you should be on stage at the theatre - sheesh - get over your entitlement - you faux "urgency" is highly amusing, and nothing short of a childish tantrum, which you should have grown out of by now. Be a man, act like a man, not a child demanding a new toy.

Incredulous...
[G 2014 General] zman01:
[MENTION=4435943]GregX80[/MENTION] Couldnt more agree.. Its ridiculous that at the beginning they didnt even admit the memory management bug, and its a bug that can be fixed realy fast, but i think they didnt even care. The other thing that i dont have sounds in messenger because of the great ascending ringtone so called "hearing protection" thing. Like you said.. the first and the last Motorola phone I bought. I'm disappointed.
[G 2014 General] GregX80:
Oh I apologize dad to disappoint your expectations saying what I think about motorola's poor service. Look at their forum how they treat their customers - fix for memory buy will be available when is released. That's it. They don't care al all.

Anyway I understand you're trying to be forum clown here, do you? This place isn't about that what trolls like you thinking in their little heads about people and their posts here - even if you don't know them at all. So if you want to debate with someone at this level you need to change forum.
[G 2014 General] gnubash:
I shall assume you are not a member of a highly focused specialist platform team for a gigantic international technology company, compiling many different versions of Lollipop for many models and international variants, scheduling the OTA pushes, deploying them to OTA servers, pushing them, receiving bug reports, reviewing and parsing the bug reports, finding AND debugging the bugs, re-compiling for multiple models and international variants... and on, and on, and on, and on... AND IT IS THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS (

they're human beings too you know? They have families and the right to a break

). Nope, you just want to sit back on your chair, and whine and bemoan the fact that YOU (and the rest of the majority of the world, who quietly make NO FUSS) don't have an update, a release date for which NOONE has been given, let alone been promised.

If you feel you can do a better job than they are doing, please - feel free to direct your hugely irrational irritations in the general direction of Motorola, where they will be replied to with a templated corporate response, formed especially to brush off annoying and "entitled" customers such as yourself, who feel they have a "right" to demand everything take place on THEIR time scale, with little to zero comprehension of what happens at an engineering company, and how stressed and hard working these people are, across multiple platforms and product ranges.

Still think you can do better than Motorola? Okay - grab the source code for CyanogenMod, and go build a ROM - we'll see who gets better results, and who gets it released first. Oh, and if you choose to do this, please give us your phone number, Twitter account details, Facebook URL, email address etc, so we can all rant and pester you, DEMANDING a release date, whilst you're working... sound okay to you? Another thing - you're not allowed to socialise with ANYONE, have a life of any kind, celebrate new year - nope - you just get your head down and work on that firmware - the world DEMANDS you deploy and push it NOW, NOW, NOWWW!!!! :D

Just face reality... yeah - that's it.
[G 2014 General] zman01:
You obviously dont know what you talking about. Christmas, family and the other nonsense.. The memory bug is known at least for 5 months now. So what you talking about? Like Greg said go to motorola owners forum and read a little, you will se how they treat their customers.

edit: Happy new year to you too ;)
[G 2014 General] gnubash:
Okay, I don't know what I'm talking about regarding anything, ever - yep - you got me ;)

I'm okay with that. Happy (almost) new year!
[G 2014 General] GregX80:
Oh well... I have 9 years behind me as an engineer in the company designing electronics so I know something about this kind of work.

Now you face reality. This is not about who is who here but about the way in which you write to people. A little respect for everyone and everyone will treat you with respect. Memory bugs with this phone were reported since September. They had a lot of time to fix it and nobody expected them to work over christmas holiday - even me though.

Anyone who pays for anything has the right to expect that will get something that works well, as it should. I guess this is not the case with motorola. On my phone, I can not listen to music or browse the internet because the browser and music player will switch off after few minutes - even when there is no other apps running in background. Everybody report the same and still nothing. This is not the way how you should treat your customers today. Especially if there is such a big competition on the market.

But that's enough of crying about for tonight, peace
[G 2014 General] El Daddy:
We don't need another speculation thread to talk about nothing.

Thread closed.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FR4USTY:
I've been trying out a few different RPG's and stuff. I was just wondering if everyone is having a problem running certain games. Like Chrono Trigger or Chaos Rings? I've tried downloading both like five times but every time I DL it and try to open it nothing happens. I've found some info that says it has something to do with lollipop running on ART instead of Dalvik? Is there anyway to change this or do I just need to wait until the games are updated?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omeganot:
Kingdom Rush Frontiers is the same way. Doesn't support ART. Seems that for now, and potentially forever, it's a waiting game on the devs.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FR4USTY:
That sucks. Well thanks for the info man.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] G1Master:
Yea I am having a hard time adjusting to android 5.0 as well. So far, Terraria, Baldurs Gate and Shadowrun do not work for me, instant FC. Its really a shame too, hard to show off this bad ass phone to others and myself when most of the games that I play do not work...
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FR4USTY:
Yeah I've tried Terraria too. I got FFIV to work but that's basically it, along with a couple less complex games like tetris and bad piggies lol
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
[ROM][3/26/15] Pure AOSP ROM -★| 5.1.0_R3 | LMY47I | Build #6 | Proof of concept! |★-

Pure AOSP for the Nexus 6​

Preface:

This is meant to be a Pure AOSP build with just minor edits to stop the stock recovery from replacing custom recovery, add some Google edits to the ROM for GPS, and modify the ramdisk so as not to preclude it from being rooted! Its not meant to be a fancy ROM, its just meant to be a baseline AOSP ROM. This ROM was produced by following the steps in the build guide I wrote. See post #2 for build guide links!

Install Instructions

Must have custom Recovery on unlocked device

Copy ROM to device (Gapps and root too!)

Reboot to recovery

Choose Factory reset (TWRP, not sure what CWM is)

Choose Install ROM

Now you can install the Gapps, and Root if you desire!

Specs and Download Link!

Android Build Version: 5.1.0_R3 / LRX22G

Current Build Date: 3/26/2015

Download: HERE!

Recommended Add-Ons

SuperSU by Chainfire here: SuperSU Stable Version

PA Gapps here: [GAPPS][5.0.x][BETA] OFFICIAL Up-to-Date PA-GOOGLE APPS (All ROM's)

Change Log

1/19/15 - Build 6 - Complete rebuild as proof of concept for 5.1.0_r3. This is PURE AOSP with no edits and no fixes.

1/19/15 - Build 5 - Fixed Youtube, Net flix DRM play back issue. Thanks to [MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION] for pointing me to [MENTION=4238916]ayysir[/MENTION] git hub for the fix by [MENTION=4395895]BeansTown106[/MENTION]

1/17/15 - Build 4 - Fixed Browser force close in settings.

12/19/14 - Build 3 - Updated to Android 5.0.2_r1

12/15/14 - Build 2 - Switched back up to block based build for installation speed! Thanks to [MENTION=4129069]hlxanthus[/MENTION] for the 411!

12/14/14 - Build 1 - Initial build
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
Build Guide Link

Want to build this exact ROM yourself?

Here is a great build guide I wrote: [Guide][1/19/2015] Building AOSP for the Nexus 6!​
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
Change Log

Add-Ons

Sprint Data connectivity linked by [MENTION=4000981]orlzzt[/MENTION] is HERE!
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
Reserved!
[Nexus 6 Android Development] gcng:
Hmm... I'll take this for a spin later. Thanks!
[Nexus 6 Android Development] hlxanthus:
Is it safe to say with this being pure aosp shamu that it is still set to force encryption?

Also, the drawback of not doing the block style flashable is it takes several times longer to actually install via recovery.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
Yes. Its pure AOSP.

Can you give me a calculation of time to install block based and file based ROM? Several times longer is a strong statement. If you could produce factual data I would appreciate.

However I am still not going block based installs because the user can take this ROM, add or remove things before it is even installed.

But I look forward to the numbers you show me! If you dont have the data that is fine. I can change the false to try in the script ota_from_tools and test it myself. Should only take a few minutes to recompile as block based.

But thanks for the input!
[Nexus 6 Android Development] hlxanthus:
Took like 3-5 minutes to install your ROM and maybe 20 seconds to at most a minute to install either rastapop or cm12alpha. Honestly I thought it stalled or failed so I rebooted recovery and installed just your ROM (instead of gapps together via twrps) and it simply takes a LONG time to flash.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] mjwhirly:
Great to finally see you here scrosler!!! Always great to welcome another knowledgeable developer to the forums :)
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
The exact numbers your reported time can vary buy almost 66%! Thats a huge variance.

Also, you are testing differnt ROMS. For a control I need to build this exactly as it is but block based.

I will test it on my device with a high end chronograph and report my results.

Also, what recovery are you using?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
Ok, I timed the file based intall, it was 2:16.08 (which was closer to your 3 minute estimate but a far cry from the 5 minute estimate)

I will build a block based ROM tonight and test to see the difference. However its still very unlikely I would change the current set up. Although I could just post both! :highfive: Win Win for everyone :good:

But once again! Thanks for your input!
[Nexus 6 Android Development] hlxanthus:
I can time it if that helps, or you can test yourself if you would rather. As for recovery, the only one I know of is twrp, downloaded directly via their website (only one version there) and manually fastbooted in place.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
We are cross posting. I timed it myself and it was just a hare over 2.25 Minutes. Which is not that far off from your assert of 3.0 minutes.

Im going to build the block based tonight and post it so people can have both options.

You brought a valid point. Once again, thanks for your input!

Edit: Also, wasnt trying to beat you up, I just like solid number comparisons.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] hlxanthus:
Haha no worries, us old optimus s veterans need to stick together ?

Edit: if you wanted to remove the force encryption, it is a very simple fstab.shamu edit. Under the /userdata line, change "forceencrypt" to "encryptable". Looking at a few rom sources, that is how they all do it. That way if you are encrypted you will stay encrypted. If not, then it wont force encrypt you. Would save people from having to flash an alternate kernel . .
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
OMG!!! Optimus S? Are you serious? That was my first Android Phone / ROM!

Yeah, I know how to shut it off. But i wanted to leave this as close to pure AOSP as I could. I think I will shut it off on the next build though. I heard the encryption can slow things down a hair too.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] gcng:
Ok, I just got lost reading comments. Is this encrypted? If it is, does anyone mind letting me know what to do BEFORE I flash to decrypt.

Ty.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] hlxanthus:
You just flash a no force encrypted kernel which I basically any of them. And as [MENTION=426561]scrosler[/MENTION] just said he may just build it into the next build.

---------- Post added at 02:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:53 PM ----------

And yes, same user name over at android central, I had DanteRom that I released. ?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
EDIT:

DAMN! There is no comparison from Block Build and File based build

Block build was roughly 2 minutes and 30'ish seconds

Block based build was 10'ish seconds!
[Nexus 6 Android Development] highwaybandit:
Hey Scott glad you are building for the nexus 6 are you planing on a Clean Rom also? Or just keeping it aosp
[Nexus 6 Android Development] mjwhirly:
I'd say leave it encrypted for now until faux finally makes it to the threads...from his g+ posts it seems his found a way to keep the device encrypted yet have around the speed as though it was unencrypted. And he's a very open source guy so I'm sure he'll share the magic
[Nexus 6 Android Development] sykopompos:
I've been saying that for the past hour lol
[Nexus 6 Android Development] johnnywayne28:
just flashed GPM is not playing but netflix works
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
What app is GPM? I tested youtube and Netflix. Nothing else.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] johnnywayne28:
Google Play movies

no playback available from this device

it will play trailers though
[Nexus 6 Android Development] HaRdC0r3:
Google play music.....perhaps...

Lol what he said.....
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
[MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION], any ideas. Maybe its the missing vendor files or is that strictly audio issues? I know I implemented those commits 100%

[MENTION=4478005]johnnywayne28[/MENTION] You can access your movies in Youtube, have you tried that and if not could you try it and report back?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] sykopompos:
The DRM libs aren't included in the nexus blobs for the n6, those need to be included so without them, it wouldn't play anything with drm
[Nexus 6 Android Development] johnnywayne28:
No movies in YouTube but the regular stuff plays

---------- Post added at 06:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:43 PM ----------

Also Netflix is working but not casting to my netgear p2tv
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
Well, the good news is I have tomorrow off so I can try to pull in your Shamu vendor files. Tonight... Not so much. Starting to get a Shamu sized head ache, lol
[Nexus 6 Android Development] sykopompos:
My DRM files are actually in my frank vendor so they can be pulled across all devices I compile for since they are the same files. Tomorrow I will be busy all day for the most part :(
[Nexus 6 Android Development] johnnywayne28:
Good news is every thing else ran nice and smooth, I enjoyed giving it a run today.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
IM sure you did before but I have a terrible memory, can you link to your vendor files?

Cool. Last thing to fix is the Vendor junk and the ROM is done :good:
[Nexus 6 Android Development] sykopompos:
There is my frank vendor so you can see how it is setup there

Side note, if you wanna have a ROM version in there then you also need settings changes to read the build info line

Derp

https://github.com/The-Ancile-Project/vendor_frank?files=1

Oh and to use a vendor like this, you have to delete the vendor check file in build/core
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Milly7:
Which specific files are needed from your vendor folder? Also, if I just cloned your vendor would it automatically be added to my build or are some additional edits needed? I already deleted my vendor check file.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Svid:
So far this is the best rom i used on my n6. Fit my needs like a glove. Amazing work :)

Only one "issue"?

When i connect my watch (G Watch R), the bluetooth icon is gray and i have random disconnects to the watch.

When i use my BT headset the icon is fine.

Is that normal?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] sykopompos:
You just need the DRM files there. In the config/common file, you will see where everything goes and that the core of every thing starts in one of those make files.

There is a lot more changed in frank then just the vendor so it wouldn't be the same but it should technically compile with no problems
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
I cant say that is "normal" but you have to consider that the Vendor files have not been updated from 5.0.1 to 5.0.2. Not saying that will fix it but that is something that has to be taken into consideration.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Svid:
What you mean the vendor files?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
The Vendor files are the heart of the device. They are like "drivers" for windows. Moto did not give the whole deal with the binary blobs. They held back and that will cause some functions to be 100% (as you can see).

Does that explain better?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] sykopompos:
All the nexus vendor blobs seem to be missing something of one way or another
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
I noticed :(
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Svid:
Yes :) Thank you for your time explaining this. Learned something new
[Nexus 6 Android Development] bmg1001:
Once Android 5.1 is released, will you be updating this rom? I'm wondering because this looks like the best pure AOSP rom out there, perfect for adding mods through Xposed. Thanks!
[Nexus 6 Android Development] jdavis7882:
Last I downloaded this ROM it had the jelly bean dialer icon is that still the case?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] paniro187:
Anyone getting thexringtone starting loud then gets quiet?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] paniro187:
OK yeah ringtone is def low anyone else have this issue?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
Oh yeah! For sure! I will also update my guide to build here: [Guide][1/19/2015] Building AOSP for the Nexus 6

Sad to say, that is the AOSP dialer. I am trying to keep this ROM 100% AOSP.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] mrgwap:
So this rom world perfect? Gps Bluetooth. No bugs and works well with Franco kernel? I want a power rom with my phone
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
You should look towards CleanROM :angel:
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
Updated to Android 5.1.0_R3 Build LMY47I

This is NOT a daily driver, rather proof of concept from my Tut thread here: Building AOSP for the Nexus 6!

Did not have time to implement all the fixes. If crowd demand is high, I will give it a shot... But with 40 thanks... I dont think crowd demand is that high :p

-Scott
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Mervingio:
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[Nexus 6 Android Development] bmwh0r3:
FYI [MENTION=426561]scrosler[/MENTION] PA Gapps is no longer maintained on XDA. May want to update that to either a good link for them or another gapps download.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] hlxanthus:
He stated in the build guide thread (link in the first few posts) that he does plan on it. Time frame of maybe as soon as this coming weekend.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
Yes, for sure!

Im sure. This phone is beast eitherway.

Maybe this weekend....Busy time at work you know!
[Nexus 6 Android Development] evolving:
scrosler!hell yeah!can't wait for a clean ROM..I use to port your att note 2 ROMs over to my sprint note 2
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
Thats awesome!
[Nexus 6 Android Development] kregstrong:
This might be a stupid question but can i dirty flash this over the stock rooted 5.0 ROM? Looking for a way to get 5.0.1 without wiping or losing root. Thanks
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
I would not do it.

Is there not a stock rooted ROM thread you could use instead?

If not I can make one.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] kregstrong:
I have been looking for one with 5.0.1 but have not seen it yet. I might be overlooking it, I will check again.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
No, I did not see it either. I will see if I can hook it up tonight... No promises. Lots to do. Hollidays really suck!
[Nexus 6 Android Development] kregstrong:
Haha agreed man, stressful just to be stressful lol. I would appreciate it if you got one, but if not its really no big deal, I might end of flashing this one in a few days. Thanks for helping
[Nexus 6 Android Development] hlxanthus:
Scott, if you do . . would you mind explaining how to build the updater-script? These new permissions on kk and L confuse me. Otherwise I would have done it myself lol
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
Just look at and use the updater script in this ROM... And there is also another portion that I add to be safe.

But yes, they are a PITA! Thats the real reason I do file based instead of block based, so you can see the perms.

Also, I dont use the AOSP binaries and updater when I build CleanROM from stock base, I use a hacked binary that allows both methods of setting permissions.

If you want to see it in action, download CleanROM 4.0 from my website and look at that. I am almost 100% positive it will be drag and drop into this ROM.

When I build the stock base I will let you know if I see any changes.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] HaiKaiDo:
You know...this rom looked like a real nice minimalist alternative to just plain stock...until I saw this

"service racoon /system/bin/racoon"

I see you sneakin in your hidden Service Racoons :P

All kidding aside, nice quality work :]
[Nexus 6 Android Development] casonswag:
Nicee i love your pure roms i used it on the nexus5
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Scott:
Hehhe. Damn you caught me. Did you find the monkeys? (Dooohhh! I just gave it away!)

You probably used [MENTION=3667193]GROGG88[/MENTION]'s ROMS. We teamed up and worked out the same thread. I did Nexus 7 builds and he did the Nexus 5 builds. But we both built almost exactly the same but brought alternatives to the same thread and the people in it.

That thread was a plethora of knowledge.