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[Android General] Mudahuda:
Everything's the same, 5 hours in pocket. Only difference is MCS_HEARTBEAT, 67 alarms.

The rest is equal.
[Android General] Celestial Fury:
BBS text dumpfile?

Amplify dev says MCS_HEARTBEAT can't be limited.
[Android General] Mudahuda:
Here is it, phone stays awake 27% of time :/
[Android General] elitewarrior:
[MENTION=5401012]Celestial Fury[/MENTION] love this app. Thanks for all your hard work.
[Android General] Celestial Fury:
Hey, thanks but there's no app here only a guide. Amplify is here.
[Android General] Celestial Fury:
Were you travelling? Looks like the signal isn't too good. Probably, the changing of the cell towers as you travel creates drain as well. And your data is on so if it's switching between 2G/3G/4G that's a strain too.

Limit this alarm: com.oasisfeng.greenify.CLEAN_NOW. It looks like I have Greenify 2.5.1 as well and I confirm limiting this doesn't affect hibernation. Open a few apps, see it in Greenify as "Will hibernate in minutes after screen", turn screen off and see them later under hibernated.

[1.2%/h] is much lower than before. Percentage of drain is a better indicator than percentage of awake (25.6%).
[Android General] Sporbillis:
I need your help

Hello again,

The last time i posted my stats for help you said that i needed to let it full charge and let it drop for about 8-10hours on it's own. That's what i did this time. i lost 3% while screen was off, i had only wifi on, i am attaching the screenshots below and i hope i did it correct so you can help this time :( Thanks a lot man for all the work!!

Using samsung galaxy tab s 8.4" running IronRom which is basically the stock rom without the bloatware

Ps. More screenshots below cause they dont fit in one post!
[Android General] Sporbillis:
More screenshots here

HERE!
[Android General] aukhan:
BBS DUMP

[MENTION=5401012]Celestial Fury[/MENTION] l

Here is my new dump file and new stats.

Please suggest what all can be amplified is the kernel wake locks reduced because I've moved from custom to stock kernel.

[MENTION=5401012]Celestial Fury[/MENTION]
[Android General] aukhan:
Forgot to attach this
[Android General] Celestial Fury:
In a post you can only add 4 attachments. To add more attachments to the same post you have to edit it after posting it. That's how I have to do it. No idea how others manage it.

You have very low drain percentage already and with such low drain you have a somewhat high awake time which is even better because it means your phone is working harder with less effort.

I can't see what individual alarms are contained in com.google.android.gms and com.google.android.gsf though. There might be alarms that can be limited there. What I can see is com.file.transfer is acting up without actually transferring any significant amount of bytes. You should surely need to limit this.

If you're heading for 0.0/h you can limit GTALK.ASYNC_CONN_... (but always double check your push notification) and show the details of the two individual alarms I couldn't see.
[Android General] Celestial Fury:
I don't have dropbox so can't see it as it needs a log-in to display.

This alarm can be limited: - com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.checkin.EventLogService$Receiver. Have you limited Whatsapp? It's slightly above once per hour. I prefer below 1.0/h. Try limiting your Telegram app as well but as usual check push notifications. Kernel wakelocks seem reasonable. Nothing I'd worry about.

What your Amplify screenshot shows me is that only the default alarms/wakelocks are presumably blocked and the length of wakelocks allowed in Amplify more or less correspond with the awake time reported in BBS.

You can attach the BBS text dumpfile instead of Dropbox in case there's something I missed.
[Android General] aukhan:
BBS DUMP

Here is the DUMP I tried to greenify the Whats app and Telegram But I end up receiving no messages.unless i open them.
[Android General] Kappa Lamda:
Can I limit this partial wakelock:

*job*/com.facebook.katana/com.facebook.prefetch.feed.scheduler.NewsFeedPrefetchLollipopService

Don't know if I lose push notification of Facebook!
[Android General] J0shimi:
Really great post and a damn fine way to get started with Amplify.

However I'm having a slight issue, I have setup the Amplify the way this guide instructs on mine and another's phone, since then we both appear to be shown as Online via WhatsApp when we aren't? It may be coincidence that this has started happening to us both at the same time but it's not happening with any of my other contacts?

Any ideas at all?
[Android General] Extreme Noob:
[MENTION=5401012]Celestial Fury[/MENTION] & other experienced folks

What is android.net.wifi.DHCP_RENEW? I am getting this alarm when device is in deep sleep and I keep both Wi-Fi and auto Sync turned on. It does not fire if Wi-Fi is turned off.
[Android General] Portgas D. Ace:
Most likely this issue arises as you have limited com.whatsapp.alarm.AVAILABLE_TIMEOUT. Unlimit it, reboot and check if the issue persists.
[Android General] J0shimi:
Thanks orville87, that was exactly what I needed.
[Android General] sacredsoul:
Whatsapp web keeps saying my phone is not connected after a minute. I had already disabled any restricting on whatsapp wakelocks. Have never restricted anything with the cloud icon. Is that some other wakelock/alarm/service that affects this?\

Edit : Nevermind. Disabled Amplify in Xposed, rebooted and the problem still exists. Not an Amplify issue.
[Android General] one7dchevy:
Anyone having issues keeping SystemUpdateService under control? I am still running 6.0, so I assume its wants to update to 6.0.1..

I have it set to allow every 9999 seconds in Amplify and also installed DisableService from the play store and disabled it. However everyday I get alerted my phone is not deep sleeping and SystemUpdateService is keeping it awake. I then enable then disable in DisableService and its fine for another day.

I extended 9999 to 99999 in Amplify just now, so we'll see if that helps any..
[Android General] jockovonred:
I use '3C Toolbox' (rooted) to disable all Activities, Providers, Receivers and Services for Google Play Services and Google Framework Services by searching simply for 'SystrmUpdate'.
[Android General] one7dchevy:
Thanks! Downloaded it and I think found where to disable these. Will keep monitoring!
[Android General] Wilmerin:
Please, check new stats on idle battery drain test.

Thanks
[Android General] TNSMANI:
If anything, the 12 MB has gone up to 19 MB.

What is it you have connected it to?

Your WiFi is continuously on as per the history.
[Android General] brizziodf:
Fantastic job.

I would like to show my BBS stats after many changes. Things are working quite right.

Unfortunately, my username is new and forum prevents new users to post outside links and files.
[Android General] deepu458:
HI Friends,

i wanted to ask you guys a quick question , when i saw recently my battery stats its showing that my device is Awake all the time but when i open Better Battery Stats only 1% Partial wakelocks & 1% of Alarms are showing. So all the awake was due to a service? i wanted to identify the rogue one tht made my device awake. Please help me where other places i can see to identify the problem.
[Android General] jabbermacy:
Thanks Cpt. Obvious! Didn't even think of that! -____-
[Android General] :
There is actually a blog about the same on how to solve the idle drain caused due to system update service Google. I had it on KK. Installed "autostarts" app as per the blog. Searched for system update service under Google framework and Google play services. Blocked it. This was the only solution that worked for me. Earlier I had tried disable service, amplify disable service and even servicely. But no doughnut. [emoji39]

Experimenting with Kernel governors now ?
[Android General] Celestial Fury:
What [MENTION=5656100]tnsmani[/MENTION] said.

"cw1200_wlan" (): 48 m 54 s

10106 (Wifi) (com.sonyericsson.dlna.Dispositivos): 19.0 MBytes

You used your phone for streaming. Streaming is not idle. Not idle = drain. If this is not clear, tell me what you think it should be.

"suspend_backoff" (): 30 m 38 s

I got a fix for this now. See my next post.

Alarms: 11, Intent: ALARM_WAKEUP56253432

REGEX fix for random alarms in Post #2.

No problem. This thread is not going anywhere.

Sure. Where's the attached BBS textdumpfile?

What's obvious is that you can't follow instructions. Post that dump in any other battery help thread and if screen on time is fine with them then they don't know what they're doing and that's where you need to be. :good:
[Android General] Celestial Fury:
FIX for suspend_backoff

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST.

What was previously known. Chrome is disabled on my phone but suspend_backoff still occurs. Doesn't seem to occur when the phone is used.

When it occurs

After charging - and you disconnect the phone "improperly", that is you disconnect too quickly or pull it off from the charger first before turning off the power supply. Does not seem to occur consistently with either improper methods.

How to stop it

Here's what works for me consistently and I'm satisfied with my method.

Turn off the power supply, wait a few seconds then disconnect cable.

Unlock phone and clear recent apps.

Turn off screen.

That's it.
[Android General] bobokun:
Hi Celestial Fury, first of all I want to thank you for all the hard work and effort you put into this! My idle drain has improved significantly after applying the changes you recommended. If you have some time can you please take a look at my BBS textdump file attached? I know I didn't meet the 7hr criteria (Only have 5.5hrs) but I was hoping this would give a good enough indication of what other things I can do to improve my idle drain, if not I will do another BBS dump tonight. Thanks
[Android General] Portgas D. Ace:
Lightflow is causing some drain:

com.rageconsulting.android.lightflowlegacy (): Wakeups: 19 (3.4 / h)

Alarms: 11, Intent: 111

Alarms: 8, Intent: 112

Alarms: 0, Intent: -1

android (): Wakeups: 13 (2.4 / h)

Alarms: 9, Intent: com.android.server.device_idle.STEP_IDLE_STATE -> I don't know if this can be limited safely, leave it for the moment as it is

Alarms: 0, Intent: android.net.netmon.lingerExpired_100_965263519

Alarms: 0, Intent: android.net.netmon.lingerExpired_102_1142616274

Alarms: 0, Intent: android.net.netmon.lingerExpired_213_-59532022

Alarms: 0, Intent: android.net.netmon.lingerExpired_201_720918319

Alarms: 0, Intent: android.net.netmon.lingerExpired_189_-94932666

Alarms: 0, Intent: android.net.netmon.lingerExpired_243_631068359

Alarms: 0, Intent: android.net.netmon.lingerExpired_221_-478248367

Alarms: 0, Intent: android.net.netmon.lingerExpired_206_-705753858

Alarms: 0, Intent: android.net.netmon.lingerExpired_235_-739174168

Alarms: 0, Intent: android.net.netmon.lingerExpired_183_-1288201795

Alarms: 0, Intent: android.net.netmon.lingerExpired_209_1913303669

Alarms: 0, Intent: android.net.netmon.lingerExpired_199_987315701

Alarms: 0, Intent: android.net.netmon.lingerExpired_151_1153413207

Alarms: 0, Intent: android.net.netmon.lingerExpired_191_144824342

Alarms: 0, Intent: android.net.netmon.lingerExpired_203_-1590825257

Lots of android.net.netmon.lingerExpired_XXX_-YYYYYYYYYY alarms. You can use Amplify's regex function to limit them, but according to your stats they already have been blocked (Alarms: 0). I haven't seen this alarm before.

EDIT:

com.kakao.talk (): Wakeups: 10 (1.8 / h)

Alarms: 10, Intent: com.kakao.talk/o.aid

Kakao Talk is also draining some juice. You can try to limit it, starting with 300, and check if push notifications are delayed or not. If not, increase the number until it meets your personal needs.
[Android General] Celestial Fury:
system (Android System): Uid: 1000 Sys: 14 m 30 s

Custom ROM issues. This isn't seen on stock ROMs.

Alarms: 32, Intent: net.dinglisch.android.tasker.ANOFFCHECKORUM

Lots of tasker tasks?

Alarms: 33, Intent: com.google.android.gms.gcm.HEARTBEAT_ALARM

New MM alarm related to heartbeats (synching, push notifications). Test limiting it if you want. I'm still on Lolipop.

com.rageconsulting.android.lightflowlegacy

com.kakao.talk

Apps that drain while idle.

You also have a lot of apps that use the network during idle in small amounts of transferred data but it all adds up.

I see [MENTION=5901790]orville87[/MENTION] replied first (yes, that's how long I take to reply sometimes). I'd add that those Alarms: 0 don't need to be limited because together they don't even add up to 1. You can see the total Wakeups: 13 (2.4 / h) don't include the 0s. Why are they even included? I just chalk it up to another feature that the BBS dev can't be bothered to explain if I ask. Just remember that anything you limit that's not in the guide is of your own choice.
[Android General] bobokun:
Sorry I'm still new with Amplify, I just donated a couple of days ago for it so I'm still in the learning process. I tried to do a search for com.rageconsulting.android.lightflowlegacy under wakelocks and alarms but I couldn't find any. I found some when I looked under the "services" but I'm not sure which one to choose and it only allows me the option to "allow/Deny" the service. Similar experience with kakao as well, can't seem to find any under wakelock or alarms, only under services do I see it.

In regards to android.net.netmon.lingerExpired_XXX_-YYYYYYYYYY alarms, is this the correct REGEX expression to limit this?

android.net.netmon.lingerExpired_[0-9]{3,}_-[0-9]{9,}
[Android General] Portgas D. Ace:
com.rageconsulting.android.lightflowlegacy is the name of the app itself, there is no name for the alarm in your BBS dump. You can uninstall Lightflow if you want better battery life or leave it as it is if you rely on notification light, but notification light is a common drainer.

For the regex expression: I am not 100% sure, but your idea seems okay. Set up a regex rule according to this expression and limit it to 84600. Reset your Amplify stats and check your Amplify stats in some days. If you see any of those alarms, but with a count of 0, then everything is okay.
[Android General] rpr69:
Which 'autostarts' app, on which blog? I searched Play Store and there are hundreds of autostarts apps. I am having the same problem, I'd like to fix it, and I've done the same steps as you did, with the same result, still a wakelock.

Thanks!
[Android General] deepu458:
Sorry [MENTION=5401012]Celestial Fury[/MENTION], i forgot to do that. Please find the attached one. Even though its for 24 Min the device is awake all the time and i see no wakelocks or Alarms running that wildly. Please help its really annoying me a lot.
[Android General] Celestial Fury:
Post #3 last line.

Pity. I found the problem with just a search. Which means you can do the same as well.
[Android General] gilliantpham:
Can this thread be applied for custom ROM?
[Android General] Portgas D. Ace:
Yes.
[Android General] deepu458:
So what you meant was the culprit was in services section and i need to look at which service ate my battery? After i saw ur message i started seeing every section of log even kernel Wakelocks and then i saw this

================

Kernel Wakelocks !!! wakeup_sources !!!

================

event2-1600 (): 7 m 16 s Cntc/wc/ec)3575/15/0 29.5%

event3-1600 (): 7 m 15 s Cntc/wc/ec)3575/15/0 29.5%

event0-1600 (): 7 m 14 s Cntc/wc/ec)3620/0/0 29.5%

r these can be the battery hoggers as well? Sorry if i put more work on you. Didnt quite get what u mentioned in ur earlier post.
[Android General] Celestial Fury:
Post #3 last line says: Strictly NO posting in multiple threads for help at the same time.

What is it that you don't get? You didn't post in multiple threads for help at the same time? If you do, which you did, you can get your help there and not here. And I've already seen that in

one

of the many threads where you did, you have already received what I believe to be the better answer for your problem but from your reply to that answer it looked like you didn't realize it. That's all I'm going to say on this.
[Android General] dobermann24:
I Hope its korekt log. Can anyone say whats false ? I have limited the most wakelocks and alarms but dot Come to 0.0 % :(
[Android General] fradbari:
Hi, anyone suggest me a good 3g-2g auto switcher?

Inviato dal mio A0001 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Android General] Extreme Noob:
Why am I getting such drain? I don't see any alarm/wakelock, which is firing too much. What have I to do to get better result?
[Android General] Celestial Fury:
First: 3.4.0-ElementalX drains. Second: no one asked for screenshots of Amplify.

Can anyone suggest me why this is related to the thread?

And neither does the other thread you posted. You should have stuck to a more competent thread instead of firing a wide spread. It's like 3 posts up in RED. What do you have to do to get better result? Read or get ignored.
[Android General] f0xy:
I have respect for you that you help people with battery life.

But I have to say, your attitude sucks at times the way you reply to people. Maybe it's just a language barrier and I've got it totally wrong, if I have, I apologise.
[Android General] Celestial Fury:
You've got it totally right. If they can't be bothered to post properly then neither will I. If they can't be bothered to respect my wishes then neither shall I. -->Noob friendly threads here<--
[Android General] Extreme Noob:
I don't know what misdeed did I do by asking help from mulple threads..:rolleyes:

I follow both of these 2 threads and trying to achieve the best result. Sorry for pinging you.
[Android General] garthybarthy:
Don't start a thread if you can't be bothered to help people properly, yes it can be annoying when people post silly questions or an incorrect dump but jeezzzz don't be so rude to people.

Whole point of xda is its a community and to help people, not everyone might have the same knowledge as others and require more help.

Don't understand why people start threads and then just complain.

It's the whole reason I don't use this thread as I was new on here and got a sh*tty reply once. Just use v7 thread as much more helpful.

Don't mean to be an idiot but it bugs me...
[Android General] aidy.lucas:
Pretty sure this thread was here first regarding battery life. If people can't follow simple instructions what do they expect. This thread is great it's done wonders for my Xperia battery life
[Android General] dobermann24:
Thx for answer me ;) i have given this Screenshot for helping me. But in bbs log its all. You right. I forgot....
[Android General] Dendis:
Here's my information. What should I change?
[Android General] Portgas D. Ace:
To everyone complaining about Celestial Fury being "rude":

he was the one that started this battery saving thread a long time before the other threads have adopted/expanded his ideas. If you want him to help you, respect his wish and ask for help in his thread only. If you don't want his help at all - post in another thread. This has nothing to do with being rude (at least not from his side but from people complaining about his simple wish).

It is his thread, his ideas of how to utilize only Amplify for battery saving, his guide. Other members have other ideas/ways to achieve a better battery life. Quite simple.
[Android General] garthybarthy:
Delete...
[Android General] Celestial Fury:
Can't help it. First someone calls me Captain Obvious when I gave a

valid

response. Yeah, this one started it all. Then for the next 3 pages in a row 3 people posts in multiple threads for help at the same time. Call it professional pride, as far as an amateur - me - can be professional. For you, it might be seeking a second opinion. For me, if it's at the same time, that's just insulting.

A second opinion is fine as long as sufficient time has passed, sufficient time meaning I don't remember you've posted about it in another thread. There's also a very specific reason that started the no multiple posting rule which those who have been following this thread will know.

The Sayings of Captain Obvious

When other people aren't rude, neither will I.

****ty replies have solid reasons. (wow XDA has an auto censor function)

Don't understand why people who don't use the thread still remain.
[Android General] Celestial Fury:
Awake (): 38 m 11 s 5.5%

Screen On (): 5 s

5 s is the fastest I've ever seen anyone take a dump.

*job*/com.facebook.orca/com.facebook.bugreporter.scheduler.LollipopService (com.facebook.orca.Messenger): 10 m 47 s

wlan_rx_wake (): 21 m 15 s

Some data transfers during idle.

Alarms: 5, Intent: android.appwidget.action.APPWIDGET_UPDATE

Widgets drain.

Alarms: 6, Intent: android.content.syncmanager.SYNC_ALARM

Alarms: 9, Intent: com.oasisfeng.greenify.CLEAN_NOW

Help Greenify work less and drain less by clearing recent apps before leaving it idle.
[Android General] Dendis:
Changed appwidget update, messenger bugreporter. What should I do with sync alarm and greenify? I know that clearing recent apps, makes them reopen from start when I launch them. Isn't it better to not clear them?
[Android General] Dendis:
Second test. What's wrong now?
[Android General] Celestial Fury:
LAUGHING OUT LOUD.

Even the wording's the same.

Ignoring now.
[Android General] Dendis:
Everyone has different opinion on alarms /wakelocks, you don't have to be rude about it to be honest :)) people search for the best and everyone learns from their or other mistakes ;)
[Android General] Celestial Fury:
Asking for help elsewhere and asking here at the same time when I said not to is what's rude to be honest. From your reply you obviously know that and obviously don't care so neither do I. :good:
[Android General] Dendis:
Saw that warning a bit too late, ups, sorry, thanks anyway for your help :)
[Android General] nixie2121:
great thread. I just bought amplify and am very new to this. I am guessing that I should start with all the settings in the op and work from there? I sort of asked the same question in the amplify thread to see if these settings would be a good start with a nexus 6... thanks for creating this thread.
[Android General] azeem40:
Try turning off wifi. Otherwise, I don't see what's wrong. 3 percent drain in 10 hrs is 1 every 3.33 hrs.
[Android General] TNSMANI:
Or 0.3% per hour which is very decent.
[Android General] dimm0k:
[MENTION=5401012]Celestial Fury[/MENTION] I noticed on my device I have com.facebook.rti.mqtt.keepalive.KeepaliveManager.ACTION_INEXACT_ALARM.MqttLite.com.facebook.katana instead of - com.facebook.push.mqtt.keepalive.KeepaliveManager.ACTION_INEXACT_ALARM.com.facebook.katana like you have. Is this the same thing given that I'm on Lollipop? Trying to limit FB instead of Greenify...
[Android General] mcdachpappe:
hi there,

first of all i want to thank you very much for your detailed guide.

but im losing 7 percent of battery over night (8,5 hours - see attached dump file, amplify shows the same runtime as bbs).

could maybe somebody help me to get even better battery life?

i have to say that im using boeffla kernel but no over or undervolting or anything else super special. im using it with a debloated rom.

thank you in advance
[Android General] azeem40:
Turn on airplane mode when sleeping. Should fix the problem. Otherwise, I see nothing wrong in terms of your battery stats.
[Android General] Celestial Fury:
I think RTI is the lollipop version. I don't know if MQTT still drains on KitKat but RTI doesn't drain on lollipop on my phone so I don't have it limited.

The guide is only a guide and your idle drain should be compared with the guide rather than limiting whatever's in the guide.
[Android General] Celestial Fury:
Custom kernel issues then as you can see - android system and events. On phone, so can't cut and paste. Also, widgets drain.
[Android General] Anok38:
Hey boys,

This tuto is very nice but i still have an issue :(

During the night, sometimes my phone is "awake (screen off)"

Look at the pics !

Anyone have a solution?

Thanks a lot !
[Android General] mt12345:
does it mean navigation apps (sygic,waze,navmii) dont use network location ?