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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] brfitzp:
So I've been a long time samsung fan since the first galaxy s phone, since I've had the s2, s3, note 2,note 3, and currently the note 4.

My job gave me an iphone 5s and I find myself doing more and more with that over my personal phone (the note 4)

I used to love customizing, rooting and installing roms. But so far that isn't possible with this phone.

These days all I do with my phone is browse the web, watch videos and text.

I'm so tempted to sell my note 4 and grab an iphone 6 (the 4.7") for the size of it. I've been getting tired of using a belt holster for my phone.

I'm a tech person and work in IT, I feel like I'll regret switching but I'm so tempted to do so anyway.

Anyone want to talk me off the cliff and remind me what I'll be missing?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
I basically think your making a mistake iphone suck my friend traded his iPhone 6 plus for the note 4 so if i was you stay with the note 4.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] lebertian:
Very easy, my GF (super Apple believer, always had Macs and iPhones) got an iPhone 6 of course and she can't regret it more. She's even been considering getting an android phone! Which is absolutely crazy for her.

Bottom line, you'll regret it. Sounds like you are an android veteran so I don't need to list here why it's infinitely better than iOS, even on a non-rooted phone.

Heck, if you can't live without root get a different Android phone! Or a rootable Note 4! There's plenty to choose from, don't fall far Apple's fake charm, besides the company now is at its lowest point ever.

Again, you'll regret it for sure!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nyydynasty:
oh, how I love the "talk me out of switching to an iphone" threads [/sarcasm]

If you're going to switch, just do it. You dont need anyone to talk you into or out of it. You can make your own decisions.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] whmgreen:
The IPhone 6 will be so boring for you! Just a stupid app drawer with barely any customization available. Unless you use Mac for everything else I can't imagine why you would want to be stuck in that ecosystem. Have you tried just carrying your phone naked in your pocket or use a pouch case? I use a leather wallet case and it fits my front pocket perfectly and I don't even need to carry a wallet anymore. You will also miss the screen, I promise you. I watched a 4k video in YouTube right next to my buddies iPhone 6 and it was no contest. The only other reason i can think of to switch is the better slow motion video, but that's literally it! Don't do it buddy, stay on the light side!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mlin:
I had an iPhone, first one was the 5. As soon as I started using it I thought, wow, I get it! I could see why so many people like them. After a few months though, I started getting bored and frustrated by little limitations, mainly the lack of user adjustable settings both system wide and per app. So, I switched back to Android. I can't talk you out of an iPhone, because it's a great device, just not for me. The only way you can know if it's right for you is if you try it. Personally, it's my opinion that HTC makes the best phone you can buy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Geteamwin:
If you're looking for a smaller phone, I'd look into the lg g3 or the xperia z3 compact. Both are great phones that I'd honestly pick up over the iphone 6.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] borijess:
Just do it traitor. Who needs to convince you. You are your own person. Jeez

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 4! ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Xak:
Dude im 19 but turning 20 on the 20th of this month and have been with android since after my first phone the iPhone 3G. Since then -> HTC One X -> LG G Flex -> SGN4 all on AT&T. Everyone else in my family is using iphones from iPhone 5C's to iPhones 6's. I'm the odd guy out but I'm the guy who is like you. I root my phones when I can and I compile android roms for them as well when I can. I brought aokp 4.4.2 for the HOXL for example the first one to do that even beat official aokp upon release. But even without root Android has loads more too offer than iTunes app store especially if your a developer. Also one reason thats major to stick with the Galaxy Note 4 is for the Gear VR. Freaking oculus rift portable basically and vr gaming and cinema. Also its Quad HD 551 something DPI display. <- AnTuTu says it has 641 or something DPI I think specs are wrong from what is mentioned. I think AnTuTu is right. Also Galaxy Note 4 is using Gorilla Glass 4 . Also microSD card slot = expand storage up to 128 GB totaling to 160 GB's. Using SD card storage for movies music , utorrent (tv series etc.) Move app data to sdcard to increase storage and when we get root move entire apps to sd cards swap apps etc. You can also have camera save pictures and videos to ext sd card. We get android lollipop soon either end of this month most likely January. Also Note 4 is awarded with best color recreation read it multiple websites blogs etc. A stylus and optical image stabilization 4k video recording at 60 FPS! in UHD which I have it auto save to micro sd card then transfer vids and pics to pc. I have over 300 apps on my Note 4 and 4 HD movies and 800 songs downloaded from spotify. Several multi gb games. Because i transfer app data to sd card that im fine with them not working temporarily while sdcard it out and in my pc. Apps are back after the fact. When root does come out it will be the best phone ever #Note that it already isn;t! Swappable battery 3220 mah fast charge is legit! If you want to root now really bad get a tablet I recommend the nexus 9. >.< And check out the thread root progress note 4 att and someone is working on root for AT&T note 4 and seems close, just takes time and patience and we will have root and then customization and the best hardware and software.

Edit:: sorry for the typos typed in 50 seconds. busy. saw this had 2 respond
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Hardknockz313:
If you like iOS just switch. You've used Android before so you should be aware what you're leaving behind, so there shouldn't be a need for anyone to convince you to stay with Android.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] norcal61:
My GF has been an iphone user since the first iphone, all the way up to the 5c. She had major problems with her last iPhone (5c) and she still planned on uograding to the 6+. I talked her into getting a Note 4, and she couldn't be happier. She had played with her friends android phone a couple years ago, a cheap entry level htc, and that left a bad taste in her mouth. She thought that was the experience involved with all android phones. Now that she has a flagship android device, she's all android and not looking back to ios.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] httuner:
Just switch, iPhones are great, easy to use and smooth ui I still love iPhones even though I'm on a note 4 and my wife is on yhr galaxy s5, the s5 is the perfect size phone, I'm starting to regret my note, too bulky and no root... I will really regret it if there is never going to be a root...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] lyrad12:
or have them both, that's why I carry both of my note 4 and an ipodtouch 5th gen with me all the time, same ios function,updated ios, with facetime, I just use mobile hotspot tethering on my note 4 to supply net to my ipod though whenever I need it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tee00max:
People bash the iPhone but I had a 6 Plus and a 6 and they are wonderful phones. Yeah its not customizable and blah blah blah but regardless they are excellent device and the kind of set it and forget it device. You get updates quickly and you don't have it wait around for an update to hit your device. Apps are optimized way better for ios. It just depends on what your needs are. I switched back to the Note 4 because expandable memory is a big thing for me and the certain features. There is nothing more smooth than an ios device so dont let people sway you into thinking the iPhone is a bad device. Your always going to get that answer on xda.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] thanitos:
Remember that if you want the better resolution screen you need the 6plus which has the true 1080p screen. The 6plus also has an estimated battery life of about 24 hours tall time 16 stand by time, the screen resolution is 1920x1080 at 401ppi and it's there retina display so there's that,

the note 4 has 23 hours talk and 14 hours standby, it has a 2560x1440 resolution screen with 515ppi,

both have finger print recognition both have NFC with a mobile wallet, depending on where you live mobile wallet might not even matter yet, both are large thin phones.

The iPhone 6plus 16gig is 300$ on contract with att, the note 4 32gig is 300$ as well.

I sell these phones all day, the iPhone 6 is a hell of a lot more popular than the 6plus, the note 4 gets some love but with Samsung not really marketing as hard as apple it's a slow sell, both are amazing phones but I prefer the "freedom" of my note 4, keep in mind I phones are all jailbreak able at this moment where as we have nothing but stock , this is not to speculate what we MAY have in the future. This is a here and now comparison of the facts for each phone, not speculation or opinion. That is why processor and memory are not brought up, in real world use it depends on what you do to really know if one is better than the other...

So there's your reasoning, go ahead and pick
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DARKCHYLDX101:
Chromecast, Gear vr, sd cards, more options for 3rd party accessories, ir blaster, Samsung phones are easier to fix. More apps. S-pen, better multi tasking features. 2k display, better hardware. Idk Last Iphone I had was a 3g. I'm not sure how much they've improved the os.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] fcb1:
Nahh i have an iPhone 5s and it's solid but I don't see myself being able to handle it as my daily phone regardless of screen size. I just use it as an ipod or if my battery runs out on my note 4 i can just switch very temporarily
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] RiNo808:
The only thing I have to say about switching over to any other device other then the note series is "S-pen". If you use it a lot, trust me you will miss it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DARKCHYLDX101:
True I had the OnePlus One and I did miss the S-pen. I also missed the Super Amoled screen. As well as the ir blaster. Note 4 is sexy. People are always checking mine out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] borijess:
Just go iPhone you will love it. :rolleyes:

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 4!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] raduque:
I bought an iPhone 6 Plus 128gb and used it for about a week. It was difficult to do the simplest things I took for granted in Android, such as adding music to my device and player library or using custom ringtones and notifications. I also don't like the "App grid as home screen" concept.

It also did not want to talk to my truck (Ford Sync), and I missed my Moto 360, S-Pen, widgets. Don't get me wrong, it's a great device. Solid, well-built, responsive, nice to look at.... but It's just not for me.

Oh and the fingerprint scanner worked AMAZINGLY. Nothing touches it in the consumer sector. Samsung's fingerprint tech is pathetic next to it. Sammy should have licensed Apple's biometrics.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
IPhones are the worst phones i ever seen and remember they are not android phones, which we all know androids are the best , so do not make that mistake in getting one if your wanting root and custom roms since the number one phone note 4 does'nt have it yet then go with the second best LG G3 can root it and flash custom roms, So don't go to IPhone i seen the 6 plus looks trebile and it's laggy as hell 2 of my friends are gonna swith there 6 plus for the note 4 which has the best performance even without root, but it's your choice!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] icexshinigami:
Without root note 4 is still an amazing device while kitkat did mess up the ext sd card the default file manager can write and move files freely from phone to ext sd card.

While not ideal it does work.

Apple's interface was made to be simple (app drawer centric). While you can make your note 4 work like an iphone you can't say the same about the iphone.

note series distinction spen features.

fingerprint reader iphone has the touchscan version while samsung went with the traditional swipe version

apple did not invent touchscan it has been available for awhile now just samsung chose to go with swipe variant. (saves space but ofcourse you have to learn how to swipe your fingers)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] COA4178:
Iphone is for dumb ppl:cool:muahahah
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] slackwaresupport:
ive lost the partitions on my s5.. all it has is safestrap3.71 can anyone help me with the partition layout or how to recover
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Rakuu:
I believe you nees to flash the pit file in odin to repartition it, then flash the firmware.
[X 2014 General] Shemploo:
Well I have to say, or rather share my depression from the lack of custom ROMS, zip, zilch, nada... :(

Since selling my Nexus 5, I've been checking the forums on this device more then I care to admit, hoping I see some [ROM] tags start to pop up on topics, I feel like i'm going through a withdraw, and a sudden withdraw, it's hard...

I don't even have a reason to root, other then trying to get some apps to work, couple that with the idea that unlocking bootloader on my Moto X 2014 Pure Edition feels like i'm doing something wrong, the act of doing that somehow downgrades the device, despite the device not loosing warranty...

Last concern is that flashing a custom recovery, and/or unrooting, updating OTA's, and flashing in general feels still untested/dangerous on this device.

I feel hopeless, I feel like I want to get the OnePlus One, and sell this device - The OPO Is so much cheaper, so much more for the money, plus it's got a TON of ROMs for it!.
[X 2014 General] TopazUser1:
Nexus 4 owner here. I feel ya! But this phone is as close to perfect as we can get. The only thing that bothers me is that we have to choose between moto display or ambient display. Imagine ambient display working with the sensors. So many possibilities with this phone. Maybe the dev section will blossom soon.
[X 2014 General] Notorio:
Yeah the dev support for both Moto Xs has been pretty scarce. I used to flash A LOT on my old HTC last year but I finally settled down with Paranoid Android. I'm rooted but there's no urge to flash for me mainly because of how barebones lollipop roms are. It's funny & a bit disheartening to be honest that my 2 year old device has multiple lollipop roms though :/
[X 2014 General] pulley06:
I come from a S3 [i9300] and I know the feel!! My External SD Card was filled only with CWM Backups / Titanium Backups and a range of roms :P

Had a 16 GB external SD card + 16 internal.. Don't miss the storage but yes do miss the flashing of the ROMs
[X 2014 General] Shemploo:
Ambient Display is nice, I love it.

Was never a big fan of moto display, maybe if it was a bit more interesting, maybe if they did some more design to it to update it a bit, I would totally looooove if they did something with it that looks like the b&w side of this one

Or did something interesting with rendering the background dimly of the phone

Sorry Phandroid, I took an image of yours and used it to illustrate an idea.
[X 2014 General] AK47ita:
I feel exactly like you!

I'm happy of the device (it works very well) but I need something to flash...I need it!!!
[X 2014 General] RepeatUntilTheEnd:
If you're unhappy with the lack of custom ROMs you could always learn how to develop and get the ball rolling. There are plenty of resources available.
[X 2014 General] juliospinoza:
I used to have the Moto G before this beast and I am more than happy. In my old G I used to flash Roms every week but that was more for the lack of performance and sensors. Now I am with moto X 1097 and I converted it to 1095 and I have to say: that's all I need. I hope with time developers will surprise us with some great things but by now this phone is close to perfect
[X 2014 General] pacobahyba:
Interesting... I think that the main reason why there are no roms is that almost everyone that has this phone is more than happy with the features we have. I used to be like that too. When I first got my first moto x I thought it was absurd not having roms for it. Then I started noticing how fast the phone was and I found that most of the stuff I looked for on roms (improved performance and no bloatware) was already there! Same goes for the new x. Between lollipop and moto software I really see no point.
[X 2014 General] CWick4141:
I'm hoping what I did with my note 3 doesn't happen to me again..there was 0 development for the first 6 months or so of device release and I sold it..a month later there were a ton of ROMs available.. That being said I'm happy currently without a ROM..but I am watching the thread in original development closely as he has brought some great cm ROMs to devices that weren't supported in the past
[X 2014 General] _MetalHead_:
I grew tired of flashing ROMs years ago. The Moto X is super refreshing in that it is perfect the way it is and I don't need to flash a ROM to get it to perform the way I want. Just use Xposed and a couple modules and I am a happy camper.
[X 2014 General] juliospinoza:
Well. I am in Lollipop and Xposed is not supported. And by far, Android 5 is superior than 4.4. No regrets at all but more development will be appreciated
[X 2014 General] _MetalHead_:
I couldn't disagree more. KitKat is a fully functional finished product whereas Lollipop still has a loooong way to go. I have an L ROM on my N5 and I play with it from time to time. It has its pluses, but KitKat for me is perfect. Especially when you throw Xposed into the mix. To each his own though, you know?
[X 2014 General] Diesel779:
This is pretty simple - If you miss flashing ROM's sooooo much, sell your Moto X and buy a phone with a big dev community. Problem solved.
[X 2014 General] DanRyb:
Def to each his own. I could never see myself going back to 4.4 even with Xposed. Lollipop is so much nicer!
[X 2014 General] jimbohurt:
Wow! Nice to see that side. I am IN LOVE with lollipop, i could never use kitkat again. If i had an n5 like you and saw lollipop i coudnt live with my moto x not having it. Then again, to get lollipop on verizon is literally why i bought this phone :P
[X 2014 General] DIXZ06:
I agree 100% with Diesel

For the others with a problem of no ROMS, why not take the time you spent flashing ROMS and learn to develop a new ROM. You will get what you want and make plenty of others happy at the same time. The tools are free and readily available if you search.
[X 2014 General] juliospinoza:
disagree? sending from an iPhone? :highfive:

Xposed is a great tool for those who want to keep stock and have a taste of developers performance.

Lollipop at soak sucks, but when is official is great. As I said, I love the performance, battery and looks of the new android... and in my old moto G was not the same, even with CM 12

regards my good fellow
[X 2014 General] _MetalHead_:
Yep, sent from an iPhone :p

I get why everyone likes Lollipop, it's just not for me. At least not yet. I have plenty of experience with it, I just keep going back to KitKat every time.
[X 2014 General] juliospinoza:
well, it dependes of the person, I am using Android since 1.6 (Motorola X1, iDen technology) and now, Lollipop for ME is just amazing, maybe I need to use iPhone to see what is the big deal about it :fingers-crossed:
[X 2014 General] _MetalHead_:
I can't tell if you're giving me crap or being genuine. I like smartphones in general, and I like the iPhone for different reasons than I like Android. For one, no phone beats the iPhone in terms of hardware, though the Moto X and Xperia Z3 come damn close. iOS also has a much better app selection, with generally higher quality apps. And gaming on it is lightyears ahead of Android, especially now with iOS8 and the larger screens on the new iPhones. I also like that I can keep all my music on it and still have a ton of room for apps and games (I have the 128gb version). iOS in general is pretty boring compared to Android since it has ZERO customizability, but that actually can be nice because I don't have to worry about tinkering with it at all. Also, battery life is PHENOMENAL. Overall I prefer Android, I think it is more user-centric than iOS and it is infinitely more versatile, but the iPhone is still an absolutely amazing piece of technology. The HTC Hero was my first smartphone (I've had well over 20 different ones since then), and since the iPhone 4 came out, I have always had at least one Android and one iPhone. What can I say, I'm a sucker for cool technology.
[X 2014 General] juliospinoza:
Well, I dont have and will never have an iPhone and I am genuine with you my friend. I work as a Civil engineer and the iOS is so limitated for me (I am talking for some friends who owns iPhone, iPads, etc) and I prefer the feeling of being free of taking my phone and "molde it". I was thinking to go to the Nexus 6 but for me is tooo damn big, so the closest choice was the Moto X and I can tell you, I have no regreats, is just amazing. regards my friend
[X 2014 General] _MetalHead_:
Yeah the N6 is waaaay too big for me. I think the Moto X is just as good, even better due to its more manageable size. I honestly think it's the best smartphone ever made, just like the 2013 Moto X was before it. And yeah, I am all about making a phone my own, which is why I love Android :) I am using both the 2014 Moto X and Nexus 5 at the moment. I also still have my 2013 Moto X but it's been retired.
[X 2014 General] rohithksaj:
Confession of a flashaholic... :cool:

Sent from the future...
[X 2014 General] Diesel779:
Not to go off topic but - I use and love Android, it is my preferred mobile OS. However iOS is great too. Where iOS really shines is on the iPad, battery life is unbelievable, build quality is great and the Air 2 is lightening fast. I've tried near enough every Android flagship tablet out there over the last few months including 3 Nexus 9's all faulty. Android tablets just can't compete with iPad'd at this moment i time.

As regards flashing ROM's on the X 2014. I really don't think it needs it, it's perfect the way it is. I installed Lollipop yesterday and I was going to root until I realised the only reason I needed root was for AD Away.
[X 2014 General] rogeriorp:
This, exactly this.

I bought mine yesterday, it feels complete except for the lack of ad away and perhaps greenify (which is quite useless without xposed, so I have no need at all for it).
[X 2014 General] bill1971:
I think moto x 2014 need some kernels,for better battery,or oc,the reason I bought was,substitute for nexus, for the money, size.is soon yet,as the phone realeased before 2-3 months.and just this month Motorola make it available in the stores in my country.
[X 2014 General] civicdrivr:
I just want a god kernel and xposed support for lollipop and I'll be pleased. I like the stock ROM, and I rocked the stock ROM on my Nexus 4 for almost two years (with xposed of course).
[X 2014 General] _MetalHead_:
Agreed 100%. There is no Android tab that can touch the iPad in pretty much any aspect.
[X 2014 General] 66racer:
Hello my name is Anthony and Im a recovering flashoholic :) I have been flash and root free since october :)

Lol but yeah I totally miss flashing roms but at the same time I mostly did so to get aosp on my phones so thats why I got the moto x even though I knew dev support was low. I always hated how aosp always had some little issue and its refreshing have a 100% stable aosp experience.

What I do miss are the customizing toggles and such in kit kat that most aosp/aokp roms allowed. I kinda thought that was stock the way cm11 had it but guess not. Thats why I am checking for my 5.0 update on att a few times a day lol hope the new drop down makes it better.

Well other than that this is a great phone and worth the trade off of low dev support (dont know why though, its an awesome phone)