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[G 2014 General] transp0rt3r:
Posting images voilates agreement??? Dude its lollipop not some secret software, people already have it on their phones, even motorola released lollipop for US customers first, and they have relesed videos.

Oh btw You are forgetting people were currently flashing XT1064 images on their XT 1068 phones and some of them got bricked. By posting these details I stopped them to do that as motorola will release lollipop for everyone soon and I dont know what are you saying about 'risk'..

What risk? Are you saying motorola wont release lollipop in india? lol They will do it and they better do it properly because its a lenovo company now, if they will do mistake people wont buy their phones in future and many people bought moto g due to their "guranteed one update" terms and by the way no OTA files are leaked yet so I don't think Motorola will have some issue.
[G 2014 General] transp0rt3r:
[MENTION=5079542]Aniket[/MENTION] multitasking still sucks and there is still some memory issue. I can't even upload image to imgur.com from my device, it still says "last operation was not completed due to insufficient memory. Hope they will fix it in public release.

But free memory is more than kitkat and Im getting good battery backup now. With 84% battery its showing me 13 hours remaining.
[G 2014 General] sahil kaul:
Works for me
[G 2014 General] ArtRahul:
Please capture

& upload the OTA zip so that other members having Moto G 2014 can also get a taste of lollipop.
[G 2014 General] sahil kaul:
That was Sarcasm, read the post and my reply to that post again.. If you still didn't get it, just pm me. I'll create a new thread and spam every other thread to explain this.

Just in case,

: P

Happy now?!
[G 2014 General] xDDen:
what's the point of making this thread???
[G 2014 General] UnBeATaBLe~PrO:
Is it Soak test or Official?
[G 2014 General] Sri2702:
Seems to be soak test...
[G 2014 General] er.jaldip:
To make jealous who are waiting for lollipop.

Or

To make happy who are waiting for lollipop.
[G 2014 General] BuCkETBoSS:
Lol, so true :laugh: :p
[G 2014 General] vorakeyur:
How long others will have to wait for regular OTA. I mean usually how long it takes..
[G 2014 General] mk1151:
Clearly you didn't read my comment.

What I said was that there are people in this thread that said they are part of the MFN and then posted images that they got their updates through the MFN. That violates the agreement that they had to accept to be a part of the MFN.

The risk is that India customers will no longer be invited to be a part of the MFN. I never said that India phones won't get updates. They just won't have anyone that gets them early.

If people don't care about that, then by all means, continue violating the MFN agreement and this will be the first and last time Motorola decides to run the MFN for the Moto G India.

I don't really care whether people were obtaining copies of Lollipop elsewhere and flashing their phones, either successfully or bricking them. Frankly that makes no sense anyway since Motorola already said, as you admit, that they are releasing Lollipop.

This is simply about respect. It's you're phone - do whatever you want with it. Share anything you want about SW you obtained from the Internet. Try to load anything you want on your device. Have a great time with it!

BUT - think about this. If people are part of the MFN, and some of those people decide "I don't care what the rules are, I want to be the first to tell everyone I got Lollipop" and because of that, Motorola stops doing the MFN all together, that person, or those people who violated the MFN agreement have just, selfishly, affected the hundreds or thousands of other people what want to be in the MFN because it will never happen again. And it's all because a few people want to be "first" on the Internet.

It shows a lack of respect for the rules. It shows a lack of respect for all the other people in India and around the world who signed up for the MFN, waited patiently, and didn't say anything. It shows a lack of respect for Motorola.

Bottom line - yes, the software update will still go out to everyone, but don't expect to see another offer from the MFN for an early release.

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For all those asking about the delay between MFN test and full SW release, the answer is, if no problems are found, it's usually about 2 weeks. It can be less time.

There have been times in the past where the soak test version has been coded to phone serial number and can cause problems when getting another OTA update.

For people asking for a copy of the soak test image, just wait a little while and you'll get your own legitimate copy direct from Motorola. There are many users reporting problems with Lollipop now anyway. With the switch from Dalvik to ART, quite a few apps are having problems. This is not a Motorola specific problem, but it seems Google still has some work to do. They've been updating many of their apps a few times a week to keep up with the bug reports.

I would resist the urge to be first this time around. Just be patient and it will come as bug-free as possible.
[G 2014 General] transp0rt3r:
[MENTION=3979095]mk1151[/MENTION] well not gonna say anything because you probably wont like my reply, anyways if you care about MFN terms and conditions and motorola then you should visit motorola forum not xda, I've already said i don't give a damn about these tos and what do you know about MFN, how it is good or bad for average indian user? do they care about what MFN is? No.. So dont tell me whats right and wrong and in future if motorola doesn't chose indian users in MFN then it will be their headache to solve issues first before releasing updates to general consumer. Oh btw motorola wanted to be first by releasing it to moto g usa customers and then encouraged media to post about it, every single news site and even newspapers were saying..Moto g got updated to android L, to get this update do this do that blah blah, without even knowing in which models are getting update. and again if you care about MFN and motorola go back to motorola forum. tc.
[G 2014 General] mk1151:
I frequent both XDA and the Motorola Forums. In fact, it was some concerned India users on the Motorola Forums who made me aware of this thread and asked me to post here.

I am making people aware of the issues on both sites. I have never asked you to stop posting your opinions, or go to another site. There was certainly no reason for you to ask me to do it either.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions about the MFN, carrier and manufacturer practices, and many other topics.

Have a nice day.
[G 2014 General] hitarthdani:
i got the invite via survey monkey but didnt get any email reguarding imei any confrmation what sould i do? of got it on nov 26 motog 2014
[G 2014 General] alphadog00:
I am always amazed by everyone wanting to rush in and have the latest and greatest - and to what end? You get <name version of android here>, you play with it for a few days, and then back to using your phone as a tool.

I have never seen an update allow me to time travel or teleport. It has not increased my wealth or attractiveness to the opposite sex (good thing I have a significant other). And it has never solved any world problems - I think the Middle East, Balkans, and Asian countries are still ready to fight at a moments notice.

So what is left? A few users can brag they have it, or get some kind of "street cred" by capturing the OTA update and sharing it with others - even if that violates an agreement. These same people "don't care" that they agreed to keep this confidential; maybe because they are fighting against the big evil corporation? The big evil corporation that did what to them? Forced them to buy a product? No, really nothing "was done to them". They violate the TOS because an agreement is meaningless to them.

Just remember that if people decide to break agreements because they can make up some justification, what will stop them in the future? Would you donate money to this person that claims they can root or jailbreak, knowing that their word or promise is meaningless?

Trust is earned. If I know someone lies to others, why should I not expect them to lie to me.
[G 2014 General] smitharro:
Well said!

Send from my XT1068 using Tapatalk.
[G 2014 General] rufflove:
'Fragment, consider revising', as a great developer once wrote. :silly:
[G 2014 General] rufflove:
:laugh:

I'm not suggesting you revise your opinion. I'm just ribbing you because you cast aspersions on poor grammar and then promptly made a fairly elementary syntactic mistake. Beware the pedants! "Fragment; consider revising" is the error message shown by MS Word when you type out an incorrectly structured sentence...

Take it easy. I doubt Motorola get upset when a few people break confidentiality clauses for soak tests. No doubt they aim to limit the distribution of potentially buggy updates, but also accept that some redistribution will occur. What is it to them if a few impatient kids with insufficient aptitude screw up the software environment on their devices? These people have already voided their warranties (assuming they live outside of the EU), so it doesn't really harm Motorola. No doubt they are already busy enough trying to sort the wheat from the chaff in the jumble of feedback they receive.
[G 2014 General] RamaKrishna9:
Hello guys..please put tos & rules for a minute and tell us whether the soak for moto G 2nd gen(XT1068) (India) live or not..please
[G 2014 General] Sri2702:
The point is not that you're sharing the OTA, the point is that Motorola sent you the OTA because you agreed to be a soak tester and were supposed to keep mum and give them feedback.

I bet you would not even have given feedback to Motorola yet. Because, you didn't sign up to help them, but only to get Lollipop earlier.

You may not be only one doing it, most people dying for soak test are only doing it to get it sooner than others. They may not be giving feedback to Motorola, so how can we expect Motorola to release the final version soon; if they don't know whether their software is having any problems?

In the US, the final release rolled out pretty soon after the Soak Test. But, in India, considering how many people only signed up for the soak test to get it early; we won't be getting it as fast. We Indians need to get a little professional.

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The reason devices don't come pre-rooted is; not everyone is supposed to get root access. You need to understand not every user who buys a smartphone is a developer. If it is rooted, a casual user may end up messing with a setting that he shouldn't. A casual user may just search "How to install Lollipop in Moto G (2nd Gen)". If the device is pre-rooted, they may try flashing incorrectly, screw it up and end up bricking their device. Next thing that will happen is, a bunch of such users start posting threads like "Moto G SUXX!". This will tarnish the company's image.

That's why they have made rooting a little harder, so that casual users are not able to do it. It's like a filter, only experienced users are able to do it. Your warranty is void if you root. It's a way of saying, "You're doing something you're not supposed to. Now, if you screw it up, it's your mistake".
[G 2014 General] vorakeyur:
I don't see anyone else receiving this soak test OTA. Not even on other forums
[G 2014 General] Sri2702:
Well, two people from this thread have got the update. And one from the Moto G Forum has got the update as well.

This can be real.
[G 2014 General] RamaKrishna9:
This can be real ? I don't think so cuz in all of India only 3 people has received the soak ? LOL :D
[G 2014 General] N.K.V.:
Only three are telling publicly that they have received.

That doesn't mean there are only 3.
[G 2014 General] transp0rt3r:
Yes there are many more members.
[G 2014 General] srinuchry:
After survey...how you came to know about the update?? I mean did you get any email or mamually checked for update???
[G 2014 General] RamaKrishna9:
When soak got released for Moto G 2013,there are several posts on several forums that the update is live for moto G 2013 model etc.., When it came to moto G XT1068(2014) I didn't see any such posts online(except on XDA)...so confused ! :/
[G 2014 General] luffydrawat:
Is it released......Officially lollipop 5.0
[G 2014 General] Sri2702:
Nope, only a soak test version.

To [MENTION=4731776]transp0rt3r[/MENTION], if you're reading this and if you really did get the soak test, please do provide feedback to Motorola, as it will help them release it to us.
[G 2014 General] transp0rt3r:
[MENTION=307157]sri[/MENTION] obviously I will do that, I've never said I'm not gonna provide feedback, report bugs etc. There aren't many issues now except memory management, little bit lag, slow touch responce (keyboard) and that quick settings issue (invert color,hotspot,Potrait etc) Few apps are crashing and I've reported that issue to app developers. I didn't experienced any other major issue. Overall its a nice update.
[G 2014 General] Sri2702:
To back up the OP's claim that he has got the Lollipop soak test version, here's scrrenshots from my chat with Moto Care.
[G 2014 General] xDDen:
guyz i have flashed the xt1069 firmware and over it restored the twrp backup of lollipop provided on the other thread. just want to tell you guyz that its working realy fine on my xt1068. so far i have not encountered a single problem. even i have noticed some improvements in performance. so i think motorola should release the official update for xt1068 since its working fine. don't knw what is holding them back lol.
[G 2014 General] KrishnaSagar:
Not to be rude... but.. thats not for you to decide :/ Bugs are not only those that a user can identify with daily usage. There's much much more to it.
[G 2014 General] xDDen:
no dude u got me wrong am not deciding anything am just sharing my experience & thoughts about it nothing else.
[G 2014 General] vorakeyur:
[MENTION=6214014]Sri2702[/MENTION]

Your chat screenshot only confirms for moto g 1st gen and not 2nd gen.

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Also I just had call with motorola helpline where they said there is no update for moto g 2nd gen. Testing is going on for 1st gen in India
[G 2014 General] transp0rt3r:
I've removed some apps and now i have almost 500mb of free memory :D
[G 2014 General] Sri2702:
Hey man, sorry; the attachments were uploaded in the wrong order.

The right order is; I ask "What about 2nd Gen?" And for that they reply "We would like to inform you...."

So, see the 2nd attachment first and then the 1st one.

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500 MB on Moto G 2014?

I am going to faint, xD! :D:laugh:

Did you get the 2nd update as well, which reportedly fixed Memory Management?
[G 2014 General] transp0rt3r:
Didn't checked yet, It's not released for Indian moto G 2nd gen.
[G 2014 General] rahilsayed:
Are u posting the screenshots for Moto G 1st? I got 2nd Gen and even the forum is 2nd gen xt1068

Anyways...

I applied the MFN but even after a week i didn't got notify or Email of some sort.How long did u wait for the update or is it Randomly sent to any moto g 2nd gen?
[G 2014 General] transp0rt3r:
[MENTION=572792]rahil[/MENTION] XT 1068 is 2nd Gen which is my device and no not randomly sent. Keep Patience everyone will get it soon.
[G 2014 General] KrishnaSagar:
Thats why I said "Not to be rude...". Consider it as a Constructive Criticism :)
[G 2014 General] srinuchry:
Hey OP,could please tell me about this...how did yu get update aftr u compltd d survey....bcoz most of d ppl done the same,but still no update
[G 2014 General] vikasb32:
Can you tell me which apps you removed?
[G 2014 General] Sri2702:
For soak test, people are chosen randomly from the people invited.
[G 2014 General] srinuchry:
Thts unfair...so tht means i dont get soak update ryt?? :confused::confused:
[G 2014 General] Chur2Much:
Just use the lollipop backup that's on XDA
[G 2014 General] srinuchry:
Flipkart sent me a faulty device,i replaced it..im getting fear of voiding warranty of this...
[G 2014 General] Chur2Much:
I recommend just printout a lollipop logo and glue it to the back of your phone and wait a week
[G 2014 General] srinuchry:
:cool::cool:

Im gonna restore lollipop backup now....
[G 2014 General] Chur2Much:
This is what champions are made of!!
[G 2014 General] aniket.dali:
Hmm.... This is kind of major bug. I was expecting a bug fix update in KitKat, still they haven't fixed it is surprising.. I hope Atleast they know about this bug.
[G 2014 General] Chur2Much:
:cool:
[G 2014 General] whatever7276:
If you're talking about the app crashing issue because of low ram, Motorola already knows that.

In fact, there is a special thread on their support forum for this issue and recently (after installing another update for Lollipop) some users said that the issue has been fixed for them.

Here's a post from that thread, if anyone wants to confirm: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/6168839e0e?commentId=846154#846154
[G 2014 General] Anizor:
No OTA for MFN registered xt1068. Guess I have to wait for the official one :(

And yeah, its' coming. Sooner or later.
[G 2014 General] MrIngenieur:
Where did you read that there is no mfn Soak Test for xt1068?
[G 2014 General] vorakeyur:
Even i called Motorola customer care, they said soak test is only for 1st gen. Even gave me link to register for MFN forc2nd gen. This is yesterday. They said no soak test going on as of now for 2nd gen.

Confusion all around
[G 2014 General] Chur2Much:
Soak test has been out in the US for a few weeks now and the soak test for BR and India have been out since last Friday! The only confusion is you posting stuff you clearly have no idea about!
[G 2014 General] Sri2702:
It seems like those at the Motorola Support themselves don't know what's going on. Each time, they just blurt out same set of answers.
[G 2014 General] Chur2Much:
Motorola Support are just average worker s who work for Motorola who's job is to tell you the basic information you can find from google! Motorola support workers are customer serivce! I could call them up asking what the weather is like outside and I would get a better answer from google
[G 2014 General] vorakeyur:
Well then Motorola should clearly announce things officially. I don't see any reason why they can not announce if soak test has started or not. What's the harm in that.
[G 2014 General] Chur2Much:
Google is your friend
[G 2014 General] gnubash:
What, just to appease everyone outside the MFN enrollment who's desperate to try out Lollipop early, and whom have no intention of helping Motorola debug their firmware? Motorola have no obligation or need to "announce" that the MFN soak test has begun - why would they, since everyone who is participating already knows, as their devices are pushed the update, if they have subscribed and enrolled correctly. MFN testing information is highly confidential, and even those customers participating have limited information, except for that which Motorola reveals to them. Motorola don't care that you don't know what plans and schedules they have, nor do they care that you care about it, nor should they do so. It's their company, their products and their release schedule, and the limited portion of knowledge the public have as MFN soak test participants is NDA protected, so there's zero obligation on Motorola's part to tell anyone anything. Can you imagine Apple being pressured into releasing top secret information? Nor can I.
[G 2014 General] vorakeyur:
Hello, its their product, their release BUT we paid for their product, we are the customers, they have every inch of obligations to their customers. And by all means they can't say that they don't care.

By the way there are people who registered for soak test, filled the survey and didn't receive any information on soak test. Is there no obligation to them to atleast tell them that they are not part of the soak test. Who are eagerly awaiting being part of it.
[G 2014 General] gnubash:
You can spin it any way you want, and no doubt you will - and complain about it until you're blue in the face, but the hard facts are that Motorola are NOT in any way, shape or form, obliged to release details of if/when/where/how/what about ANYTHING to do with the Lollipop updates to *their* products. They were not even obliged to GIVE the devices the Lollipop update AT ALL. - there's no legal requirement for them to do so, and they're not exactly dragging their heels. Motorola are testing Lollipop in whatever way THEY deem fit, and at a time scale only known to them - NO amount of reasoning or debating or complaining about it being "late" is going to make it come any faster, so to waste time doing so is a silly, childish and futile thing to do.

You own the PHYSICAL device, you have the software running

on

the device, BUT you do not own the software licences and binary blob copyrights of the software you are running on your hardware, so I am sorry to break it to you, you are going to have to wait. Find me a lawyer that can prove you're entitled to it NOW NOW NOW, **stamp stamp stamp**... and I'll buy you a pizza.

Motorola's patents, Motorola's version of Lollipop, Motorola's company, Motorola's hardware and chipset designs and associated technology, Motorola's timetable. None of these are yours, and none of these are you entitled to own or have knowledge of. They owe you NOTHING, update wise. If you don't like how they don't reveal confidential information, sell your device(s) and stop complaining.
[G 2014 General] vorakeyur:
Well no lawyer can create goodwill for anyone. And goodwill my friend can not be created by any legal obligations only.

And what I am saying is if someone got invites to MFN and filled survey and all, shouldnt atleast those be informed if they are included or not. I dont see any problem or issues in that. It just shows a good gesture.
[G 2014 General] gnubash:
Direct your umbrances toward Motorola - they're more likely to care, and infinitely more able to do anything about them. We aren't, however.
[G 2014 General] mannulko:
Are we going to get lollipop update this year?
[G 2014 General] rahilsayed:
Big Question:

Everyone wants the Big News ,me too :p

Are WE ? (Master Shifu Style) :cool:
[G 2014 General] smitharro:
Why so impatient? Relax... Everything will be fine in time!

It seems you guys have noting else to do than worrying when you get a new Android version...

Send from my XT1068 using Tapatalk.
[G 2014 General] mannulko:
Yes bro u r correct i have nothing else to do but to worry for next android version:o

Where is my lollipop

Where is my lollipop

Happy dude:p

I know u too want lollipop thats why u checking on this forum.
[G 2014 General] cuzzo94:
Still anyone was able to capture the ota zip? :)

I hope that motorola will proceed updating european xt1068 very soon :S
[G 2014 General] Chur2Much:
Tueaday
[G 2014 General] cuzzo94:
Do you mean that ota will arrive on tuesday? Sources?

Thank you :good:
[G 2014 General] mahendru1992:
Contrary to the popular opinion most people don't come to XDA to check when lollipop will come to this phone. Don't project your beliefs onto others. And repeatedly asking the same question again and again wouldn't make the update magically appear.

Just take a chill pill and relax. The update will come when it will.
[G 2014 General] ArtRahul:
:eek: nobody yet captured the OTA zip for XT1068 yet???

And why motorola is testing indian users' patience huh????:confused:
[G 2014 General] smitharro:
No, they're testing Android, they can't test your patience, because you don't have it.... Chill man!

Send from my XT1068 using Tapatalk.
[G 2014 General] ArtRahul:
So what was that i was having so far. Wasn't that patience???? O.o
[G 2014 General] Chur2Much:
No but you are Generation I WANT NOW!! You have a smartphone! Which many people can not afford! Generation I WANT NOW or I will throw a hissy fit
[G 2014 General] Arjen:
Ok, cleaned up a bit,

Instead of reacting to posts which provide nothing or are insulting, please use the report-function!