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[X 2014 General] BootloopedMillennials:
Don't really understand the Droid Turbo root exploit. They were able to obtain root but you can't write to the system. Write Protection still enabled. So what exactly can you do? The only thing I can think of is developers removing stock Verizon apps from the .img file and then flashing that to the device. You won't be able to do much beyond that correct?
[X 2014 General] laxkid13:
Write Protection Possibility

This may be a possible solution.... It's all still developing over on the mofo thread
[X 2014 General] substanceD:
I tried going through the steps in hoping that it would work for the Moto X but no dice:

Error: Sorry, your XT1096 is not supported. Maybe next time.

Edit: for anyone who hasn't read up to this point, I'm referring to the method at https://mofo.disekt.org/.
[X 2014 General] Mocha_Bean:
I'm assuming their website just checks your device info from when it grabbed it in bootloader mode, and determines whether or not it's a Droid Turbo.
[X 2014 General] dhoppy:
https://twitter.com/jcase/status/581105182492135424

WOOT!
[X 2014 General] redwings73:
SO stoked!.. [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] is on it!
[X 2014 General] TokedUp:
just seeing the name [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] gets me in a positive mood! Fingers crossed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Got my $20 ready!
[X 2014 General] pyro6128:
YES! I'm throwing my wallet at the screen but nothing is happening!
[X 2014 General] ry_t:
Got my money ready!
[X 2014 General] bondlolo:
Hope it work for the AT&T variant too [emoji17]
[X 2014 General] xFuGiToiDx:
Only for Verizon model? Could someone ask if he would support at&t also? Sorry I dont have a twitter account lol
[X 2014 General] bmwh0r3:
How does one downgrade from 5.0 back to kk on the vzw motox? I thought that wasn't possible...

Or

I wonder if I can complain to moto care that the replacement they built didn't have kk but lolli on it?
[X 2014 General] en_pneumati@netzero.net:
so, here's my $64,000 question... will we be able to run superuser, and, ultimately, Barnacle wifi tether, if we get root using mofo? do these root-only apps need to write to system, which mofo root method apparently doesn't enable?
[X 2014 General] Legacystar:
Should be able to use xposed wifi tether enabler
[X 2014 General] d33dvb:
Someone should start packing up a system image with root in preparation for the mofo fastboot tool. (Brilliant by the way, why has no one else thought of this? I wonder why heimdall wont allow signature checks to be removed.
[X 2014 General] TokedUp:
Wish I knew how. It would be a good idea to have an img ready. Over in the Turbo thread theres a lot of progress building them.
[X 2014 General] bits3rpent:
Jcase is on the case. *happy dance*
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
Yes, it gives you root by flashing a pre-rooted system.img. It just doesn't give you write protection disabled nor does it unlock your bootloader.

A simple mod to the build.prop will allow you to use native tethering for free. Of course, the build.prop file must be modified in the pre-rooted system.img.
[X 2014 General] skytbest:
Have there been any updates? What's the best place to follow the status, this thread, or is there something else I should be looking at?

Thanks!
[X 2014 General] TokedUp:
I asked about the status for us in the Turbo thread but I got no response from anyone. [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] mentioned on Twitter that it was in the works but I dont want to ask him about it on Twitter cuz his last post was talking about him having some health issues. I just can't get myself to ask a guy thats going thru something like that about Root for a phone LOL, im sure he has other priorities.
[X 2014 General] skytbest:
Cool. Do you have any idea what MOFO is? I see if coming up a lot
[X 2014 General] pyro6128:
Check out the paid software section of XDA, you'll see mofo there. It's the tool used to root the Droid turbo, which has a locked bootloader. It allows you to flash system images to the phone, so any root tweaking needs to be done to the image prior to flashing as write protection is still on.
[X 2014 General] jimbohurt:
Yay !!!!! Got my money ready, so excited
[X 2014 General] slogar25:
Has anyone figured out how to edit our system.img. I get a return error trying to mount it on Ubuntu. Using the file command returns data.
[X 2014 General] purejoy:
Mount the IMG first via issuing 'mount -t ext4 -o loop system.IMG sys/',then 'cd sys' to customize your system. Remember to issue 'umount sys/' once you have done with it.

PS: replace the sys/ with your own mount point and the system.IMG must be a raw ext4 image.
[X 2014 General] skytbest:
Right now is it looking like we'd have to downgrade to Kitkat in order to get root? I know a lot of this still has to be determined, but realistically does it look like this will only be for kitkat right now?

My X came preloaded with Lolipop, not sure I can go back now
[X 2014 General] bmwh0r3:
Likely those of us on lolli will be screwed if the root exploit won't work for us. I don't think we can downgrade.
[X 2014 General] TokedUp:
Great news guys! Maiko, the OP of the Turbo thread, sent me a reply that he is working on getting us root! Yay!
[X 2014 General] pyro6128:
great news!
[X 2014 General] jon102034050:
Awesome news! Thanks!
[X 2014 General] supermandroid:
Oh, that's fantastic! My wallet is ready!
[X 2014 General] motcher41:
Cool I guess but with WP on...isn't all that much point to half root.
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
It's full root. You either don't understand what MoFo does or don't know how to modify a system.img.
[X 2014 General] BootloopedMillennials:
Verizon Note 4 now has root. Different method than MoFo?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=59846306&postcount=98
[X 2014 General] jimbohurt:
What is WP? Thanks
[X 2014 General] pyro6128:
Write Protection
[X 2014 General] d33dvb:
Here is more info on that exploit, cannot discern if this will apply to us. But here are the links:

http://xdaforums.com/kindle-fire-hd...luating-cve-2015-1474-to-escalate-to-t3045163

http://xdaforums.com/note-4/galaxy-...s-only/rd-rooting-n910a-n910v-models-t3042045

https://github.com/p1gl3t/CVE-2015-1474_poc
[X 2014 General] motcher41:
I understand both. Sorry but that is not full root. Root access gives you access to the root of the phone. Mofo allows you to flash a system img that you have modified. That is not root access. That's a hack that allows you to use su apps. Root without the ability to write to system...or root of file system is kinda like buying yourself shoes...but not shoes you can wear cuz they 4 sizes too small.

Man I suck at analogies believe it or not it took me 5 minutes to come up with that.

Its...half root. Root for apps...sure....abilities to do anything in the root level of the files system. No. Have to dink around with a system image and then flash it and then next time you wanna say mod a build prop or something you have to do it again.

Cool....sure but good luck using it for anything cool like xposed.
[X 2014 General] mcgrathpatj:
And it's still not good.

My analogy would be it's like buying a 1970s muscle car and not being able to work on the engine.

Most people don't want to, but those that do, can't.
[X 2014 General] d33dvb:
Read my post above, I am not referencing Mofo, there is a new exploit being explored.
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
Which gives you full root access to the phone, lol! Sorry but word games aren't going to work with me.

It's full root access - you just don't understand what root is.

You absolutely can do that - it is just that write protection is still on so if you do a hard reboot, your changes go away.

You are confused about what root access is and think that write protection is part of root access. It's not.
[X 2014 General] TokedUp:
If anyone isn't happy with Mofo root please feel free to come up with ur own method. For the rest of us we will be happy with what we can get.
[X 2014 General] motcher41:
If you think that's actual root then...my friend you don't know what root is. :)

Root: Rooting is the process of allowing users of smartphones, tablets and other devices running the Android mobile operating system to attain privileged control (known as "root access") over various Android's subsystems.

No full access...no "real" root. Full access being changes made actually stay.

I mean hell...can't even make a simple build.prop change on the device without modifying a system.img and then flashing it to the device

Don't get me wrong...kudos for finding it .. Its better then nothing.
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
No, you are the one who is wrong. Root is a LInux term and obviously, you don't know what it means. I am putting you on ignore b/c you don't understand the basics and so there is no reason to read anything from you anymore.

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Then don't buy it. Live with a locked down, unrooted device.

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And is anyone working on seeing if it works for the Moto X 2014? Maiko1 is working on finding a root method for this device.
[X 2014 General] motcher41:
Fully locked...half locked...not much of a difference for $20
[X 2014 General] sonic1675:
Why can't we all just get along...
[X 2014 General] jimbohurt:
Just wanna comment on your behalf. I think you are being considerate and correct. People are getting butthurt and defensive but you aren't being ungrateful or anything, just pointing out how it will work. So thank you.
[X 2014 General] pyro6128:
He doesn't need to point out how it works though. It's literally explained on the first page of that root thread what it does,in very clear bolded letters. It does allow root access, just not as conveniently and easily as some people have become accustomed to.
[X 2014 General] 1upyours:
Half root, full root. Personally to me, I could careless. Only thing I want is tether, and possibly ad-block. That's it

I'll be glad to pay the premium just for that alone.

Make it happen fellas. My money is ready.
[X 2014 General] cgehring:
I have Verizon and use tethering all the time. There is a Tethering and Mobile Hotspot option under "More" in the Wireless & Networks section of settings. Does it not show up or not work for you?
[X 2014 General] sonic1675:
You do realize that it costs money. Therefore defeating the purpose of free... Wi-Fi tethering.
[X 2014 General] Slipfish:
I'll fix this for both of you. :) Car analogies are always a good start:

It's like buying a classic car with the hopes of improving the performance. Whenever you need to do anything to the engine though, you have to hoist it out of the car, make your modifications, and then bolt it back in.
[X 2014 General] pyro6128:
Spot on
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
But for me, I only need to improve its performance once, so no big deal.

All I need is titanium back-up, free wifi tether, root cloak and adaway. Nothing else on the phone needs improvement.

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He may have a More Everything plan, then the MHS option is free but you pay outrageous amounts for your data.
[X 2014 General] motcher41:
I am getting along. Nothing like a good debate to get the blood flowing :) Point-counterpoint. I love it.

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I am always grateful for the work put in on devices. I appreciate them all but I call it how I see for good or bad. This is definitely a step in the right direction and once available I will have to think...and only think about it's worth but at some point if it is the same method through PC app as Mofo it will come out for free. If it is "whole root" ;) lol I will definitely consider ponying up $20
[X 2014 General] RyanTX:
It does not cost money. I believe it is not available (free) on plans with unlimited data. I have been using it for 2 years now on a tiered data plan with no upcharges for it.
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
It is free on a More Everything plan. But on a Nationwide TDP it is $30/mo just the same as if you have UDP.
[X 2014 General] en_pneumati@netzero.net:
i've been able to refuse OTA update from KK to Lollipop as we wait for possible root.

however, now my phone is telling me there is a Motorola firmware update awaiting installation.... Motorola Sensor Services firmware update. it doesn't even really tell me what it is for.

is this something i want to hold off on, too?
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
I wonder how much longer this will take? The amount of time this is taking concerns me that it may not work for the Moto X 2014.
[X 2014 General] bits3rpent:
The process is hard to put a specific time on, the most likely hope for this is jcase who seems to be working on it.

By the way, my phone came with 5.0 from the box.
[X 2014 General] dhoppy:
Jcase isn't working on it. He only said that the Mofo guys would have a version soon for us.
[X 2014 General] bits3rpent:
Ah, my mistake. Thanks for the correction.
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
Right and I was under the impression that this was a "universal" method in that it wasn't specific to the Droid Turbo, rather it was specific to kitkat. So that is why I am concerned - perhaps it is not universal and is specific to the DT.

I wonder if he is working on lollipop? I wish we could get some sort of update even if it was just - hey this is taking longer than I thought, hang on I am trying my best. Something to just know if this is even a possibility at all.
[X 2014 General] TokedUp:
Go ask in the Turbo thread
[X 2014 General] d33dvb:
$20 full root, $100 bootloader
[X 2014 General] bits3rpent:
I sent an email to the MofoRoot contact email earlier today.
[X 2014 General] d33dvb:
Someone be the sacrificial lamb, modify the moforoot binaries and allow to flash to any device :/ Then modify a system.img and prepare for paperweight. Hope motomaker has you a good desk ornament.
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
Please let us know if you get a response!
[X 2014 General] BootloopedMillennials:
First generation Moto X (Verizon & ATT) might have root now. Different exploit and only on 4.4.4.

http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/general/moto-x-root-pogress-60-t3071602/page4
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
I read that thread but can't understand it very well due to English language issues. Is there any hope this can work on a Verizon Moto X 2014 running 4.4.4?

What is Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008?
[X 2014 General] Mocha_Bean:
Out of legitimate curiosity, how many people here are actually still running 4.4.4 on their VZW Moto X?

There has been a surprising amount of focus put on 4.4.4 development when so few people are running 4.4.4 anyway.
[X 2014 General] Pizzuto:
<2% of android user have 5.0, (see link below) perhaps thats why KitKat development is alive and well. I have a xt1096 still on KitKat as well. Mocha if root is so important to you, as well as being able to by a phone on contract with no money down, then perhaps someone like you of all people should avoid OTA's. Just my advice as your helpful posts from the beginning of this thread have turned to gentle whines as perhaps the exploit that may help others, may not target you, as you went with the Lollipop OTA. That being said, I imagine the Mofo root method may benefit all, as from what I read, its a fastboot flashing tool, that someone gets around signature checking. If not this, i'm sure when the masses are using Lollipop, perhaps a universal method will appear like Towelroot once did.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/android-lollipop-is-out-but-almost-no-one-is-using-it/
[X 2014 General] Mocha_Bean:
I was mostly referring to how many people still had KitKat on their XT1096. The 5.0 OTA has been out since December; I highly doubt very many people are still running KitKat on their XT1096.
[X 2014 General] d33dvb:
Mine came stock from vzw with 5.0
[X 2014 General] motcher41:
Same here. 5.0 outta the box
[X 2014 General] mbkintner:
My XT1096 is still on KitKat. But then it's been sitting in a box unused since I bought it new. I purchased it before Lollipop was released to hold on to in hopes of someone achieving root and a bootloader unlock.
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
Me too. I had the N6 but then returned it and so now I am back to my Moto X 2013, which is a great little phone.

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Well I have a Moto X 2014 on 4.4.4 but like I said, it has been unused.

I would even be willing to let it be the test device as I bought MotoCare on it so I am not worried about a $39 deductible. If [MENTION=5697730]maiko1[/MENTION] could just let us know if there is any hope that would be great. If there is no hope, I will sell mine and get the XT1250.
[X 2014 General] abuttino:
Aren't these bounties considered "against the rules" on xda?
[X 2014 General] scoobaspeaz:
Would be nice if a trusted XDA mod would hold the money in escrow in paypal. Instead of pledging someones word they can actually send the money.
[X 2014 General] ijotech:
25 uss for root Verizon , 25 boot loader Verizon and 100 uss each if includes At&t too
[X 2014 General] jcase:
Most of us don't like the hassle of the bounties, we certainly dont want the extra hassle of holding money that may or maynot be collected
[X 2014 General] Michajin:
Only give the root and bootloader unlock to those who pay. I like the Sunshine method, but it would be nice to know anyone developer was working on it. But keep in mind 30% of something is alot more than nothing. Collect as much as the bounty possible then do a app like sunshine. just a thought, but still I'm in for $20 root $25 for bootloader....
[X 2014 General] GrandMstrBud:
The problem with only giving it out to the ones who donated is chances are it would get spread around anyway. Maybe start out that way and then release it to the public? I wish I was smart I'd be giving it a shot
[X 2014 General] hungarian:
I only really need root but 25 isnt a biggie for what I get

Cheers
[X 2014 General] rrossilva:
hi, it will work with att ?
[X 2014 General] Mayze23:
If there was a way to sell a root tool sorta like the way sunshine is sold I'd be all for it.
[X 2014 General] GrandMstrBud:
The bounty for the Droid Turbo is huge and still no root. I give it to the end of the week before I ship my Moto X back. No point in having this if I can't use tethering. The iPhone works but much rather have android
[X 2014 General] GatorsUF:
Put me down for $50 for root.

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Jcase, is sunshine still in development? Can we hope for MotoX_vzw inclusion in the future? I an see how that is a more guaranteed way to get the money.
[X 2014 General] JakeT85:
I've got $25.00 for root and $25.00 for bl
[X 2014 General] scoobaspeaz:
If money isn't a motivation then what would be for you guys/gals? I'm sure people would be willing to round up whatever it took. :)
[X 2014 General] jcase:
Self amusement
[X 2014 General] TokedUp:
[MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] I have a ton of self amusement I am willing to part with. PM me! ;) LOL
[X 2014 General] jimbohurt:
Can edit my contribution? Ill up it to 20$ and also add a bootloader for another $20
[X 2014 General] hotpass105:
I seem to recall you stating on a prior occassion that you had no plans on working on a solution for the Moto X. Is this still true?
[X 2014 General] azndan2:
Awkward :p
[X 2014 General] Milly7:
Can't blame him if he doesn't. I really appreciate what he has done across so many devices. I bought this device hoping for root/bootloader unlock but was willing to live with it if not. The only thing killing me right now is Verizon/Moto didn't even have the decency to update the signal icons to lollipop's design? And the old messaging app? [emoji15]

I have never been in on a bounty, but count me in for $20 for root just to be able to change those damn signal icons alone.
[X 2014 General] Ricowan:
I donated to Wugfresh for NRT, it's a no brainer for this as well.

I'm good for $25 to help get root on the VZW Moto X2.
[X 2014 General] BootloopedMillennials:
From Cellcom?
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
I guess I have to research where to buy it from, lol! I know on the Droid Turbo general forum someone posted the places you can buy it. If you can't find one to buy on ebay, then you have to buy one from a small regional carrier and some won't sell them to you unless you are a customer.

Edit - here is the post

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=59075613&postcount=20
[X 2014 General] tacosrdelicioso:
People cut the crap it's getting really annoying. K thanks
[X 2014 General] bits3rpent:
There is an exploit for Lollipop that should give privilege escalation. So it may be possible for temp root on 5.0, just need to get past write protect for "full" or "permanent" root or whatever you care to call it. Since the exploits that seem to be in the works focus on 4.4 (for logical reasons) I might look into this further since my device was lollipop OOB.

Ref: http://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2015-1474/
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
Maiko1 Says He Is In Final Testing of Root Method for Moto X 2014!

Thank goodness!!! I PMed him and offered to use my device as a tester but he says he has someone doing final stages of testing for XT1096!!

Can't wait!!!!
[X 2014 General] TokedUp:
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[X 2014 General] mbkintner:
Not to start some of the last few pages of discussion back up but.....

Is this root with write privileges?

Notice I stayed away from terms like "full root" or "partial root". [emoji3] Let's keep it that way. I'm no debating the value of one versus the other or what "root" means.
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
It is MoFo - it gives you root access but does not turn off write protection. It allows you to flash a pre-rooted image. Over on the DT forum people have created pre-rooted images with free WiFi Tether and Xposed so hopefully that will happen for the Moto X 2014 too.

I just hope we will still be able to use it on Lollipop 5.1 b/c I want HD Voice and simultaneous data/voice capabilities.

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There is no debate on what root is - that is defined by Unix. Root access and write protection are different.

MoFo gives you root access but does not disable write protection. I don't need write protection disabled as long as I have free WiFi tether, TiBu and Adaway. There was one other app I wanted - one that lets you selectively control app permissions but I forget the name of it.

Greenify is pretty nice from what I have read and I believe that on the DT they have it working, idk for sure, but you can read over there if you want to know more.
[X 2014 General] d33dvb:
REFERENCE HERE: http://xdaforums.com/kindle-fire-hd...g-cve-2015-1474-to-escalate-to-t3045163/page2

There is nothing "to look into" at the moment, unless you can add something to the aslr discussion in the above thread. They have a PoC, but its in progress.
[X 2014 General] Skynx72:
Has anyone else seen this?

http://rootjunkysdl.com/?device=Moto X 2014&folder=Root Firmware
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
Great find!!!! [MENTION=5697730]maiko1[/MENTION] said it was in final testing and rootjunky tested it for the DT so maybe he is testing it for the Moto X 2014 too!!

Yay!!! Root is near!!!! And it looks like it may be for lollipop too!!!!
[X 2014 General] bondlolo:
No love for AT&T variant? :(
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
I am sure that right now the priority is on Verizon XT1096 b/c there is no Pure Edition for Verizon so everyone who has a Verizon Moto X 2014 has a device that can't be rooted. To maximize the revenue per hour spent on this, the Verizon XT 1096 is the best option after the Droid Turbo.

Once the method is released for Verizon, then it will work on the AT&T model, it will just be a matter of creating the flashable rooted image for the AT&T model.
[X 2014 General] VannMann:
Anyone tried it?
[X 2014 General] Mocha_Bean:
It hasn't been released yet; all we have is images.
[X 2014 General] Tomsgt:
someone always finds this stuff :)
[X 2014 General] neh4pres:
Take my money!
[X 2014 General] TokedUp:
So what do we need to do? If those are the images can't we use mofo to flash them?