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[X 2014 General] supermandroid:
$50 Root for sure!! I hope this thread is still going. Of course, this is the holidays... so the OP might be busy! I know I'm going to my in-laws for Christmas where there is no internet or cell signal... :eek:
[X 2014 General] brackett5:
I honestly don't see this ever happening
[X 2014 General] gotwillk:
but why though? other carriers have it rooted right? or is that because of the pure edition of the phone?
[X 2014 General] GrandMstrBud:
I did also but a little to big. Thinking maybe the Galaxy S5 on VZW. Pretty sure there' s root available for that
[X 2014 General] ssick92:
+1
[X 2014 General] NWKENT:
If any device is a Verizon device, very doubtful Root is available.. but maybe possible..

If you'all would stop buying Verizon pitch, their "chokehold" on customers, they'd change their tune..thank goodness, after 10 years with them, I finally purchased unbranded device's.. and would NEVER go back..now I can use my devices on ANY other network..by just switching the SIM card..and reboot..

I spent lots of time and money, Rooting and Unlocking bootloaders on Verizon's branded devices, not anymore..

Exclusive Moto user since 1989..

XT1045 Moto G 4G LTE (1st Gen.) #1

http://waynekent.com/page6.html

"Praise Jah" YOU people.!
[X 2014 General] TokedUp:
If the goddamn S5 can be rooted on VZW then we should be able to root as well. Locked down Knox crap with CrapWiz has a larger community. Where the hell is that Chinese middle man???????????????
[X 2014 General] neh4pres:
I for one am stuck on a relatively cheap unlimited data plan. Don't think there are unlocked unbranded choices for me ATM . nexus is to big.
[X 2014 General] tacosrdelicioso:
+1. Burning that data!
[X 2014 General] redsox 98:
Root may happen but bootlader will never be unlocked. Its Verizon peeps either you get great nationwide coverage or unlocked phones. My only complaint is how dam buggy lollipop is.
[X 2014 General] scoobaspeaz:
Do not take this the wrong way but I actually am tired of that type of comment. People like you act as if others are sheep and are just too stupid to leave Verizon. For you apparently other carriers are an option where you live and for how you travel but it might not be the best option for all. I would love to get an unlocked GSM phone then go to whatever carrier promises me the deal of the day...but the reality is i need network coverage. Verizon has the best nationwide coverage. Until AT&T can match that I am stuck. T-Mobile sure talks a great game but their network coverage is pure crap. At the end of the day I weigh what I want most out of a phone....and thats network coverage. A phone does me no good if i can unlock and root it if I am unable to use it. That still doesnt prevent me from hoping someone does find a way to root and unlock the device on Verizon. We all know its a slim chance but its worth the hope. I just ask that you think about those situations before you start blasting "you'all" for sticking with Verizon.
[X 2014 General] Mayze23:
^^ +1

I'm on a grandfathered UDP on VZW and I would love to have unlocked phones. Having unthrottled unlimited data with great coverage is way more important to me than a rooted unlocked phone though. The only carrier that offers unlimited data that I would consider is T mobile. I just finished their one week test drive and I know why they are cheaper and have these incredible offers. Their network is terrible. In urban areas it's pretty good but in suburbs and rural it's either super slow edge or no service at all. AT&T doesn't offer unlimited data and Sprint isn't much better than T mobile.

I hope that the X gets root but since Xposed isn't compatible with ART I'm not missing it that much.
[X 2014 General] gotwillk:
i just want root. don't really care for bootloader or flashing roms anymore. i thought i could live without root but i really can't. i can't even do a simple thing like use a reboot app because they all require root. now i gotta power off the phone and then power it on again to reboot? thats craziness to me. ok maybe i can live with that and even all the bloatware, but the absolute most annoying thing to me is trying to restore apps and data. i've always used tibu to backup/restore apps and data with no issues but now that i have no root, i'm at a complete loss. i can restore apps using mybackup pro but its a subscription based app and its a manual restore process where i have to keep hitting the install button for each app. and worst of all, i can't restore data because of no root. is there some app out there that can restore apps+data with an unrooted moto x?? sorry this became a long ramble and went OT but this was not what i expected at all coming from an LG G2. :(
[X 2014 General] Mayze23:
Hold in the power button for about 5 seconds and your phone will reboot.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup

Helium does data backup without root.
[X 2014 General] gotwillk:
unfortunately, helium does not work with motorola phones.

good tip on the power button holding though. thanks!
[X 2014 General] Mayze23:
Helium works for me on my VZW moto x on 5.0. I tested it first before I bought the premium version.
[X 2014 General] rob22202:
In for $25 here.

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Not being able to use my unlimited data via tethering is the thing that kills me.
[X 2014 General] jpen:
I reallllllly hope we get at least root. I hate the bright red Verizon boot screen.....so tacky and ugly and I need it gone!
[X 2014 General] gotwillk:
another reason i need root: being able to preserve modified date for pics and videos when transferring from an old phone. the dates and sort always gets messed up for pics and videos. for me, this is probably the most hated thing about migrating to a new phone. to this day, i can't find any way of doing this without root. if anyone knows of a way or an app to do this, that would be greatly appreciated.
[X 2014 General] brycekerr:
Bounty

Just received this guy as an asurion replacement (asurion has really stepped up their game, super easy process) and I figured I'd drop in to pledge because I really want TiBu functionality.

$20 for root
[X 2014 General] RyanBRZ:
$25 for root. Desperately need tethering.
[X 2014 General] chad24taylor:
In for $25.
[X 2014 General] supermandroid:
Is this thread being kept up with? I feel like a healthy bounty is coming on if these would all be accounted for in the OP.
[X 2014 General] gotwillk:
i hope it is...
[X 2014 General] jpen:
I don't think it is. It says in the first post that it hasn't been updated since December 11th. Don't know what happened or why he stopped. Not sure if anyone has the time or desire to, but maybe someone can find where he left off and just make a reply to this thread with the updated information just so we know where everything is at, and so the people working on it (if working on it) can know what the full bounty is.
[X 2014 General] rob22202:
Hell, I'll give my $25 if someone figures out a way for me to wireless tether on my unlimited plan without paying an extra $30 a month. I have 4 kids and a wife that I have to supply wifi for on road trips.
[X 2014 General] supermandroid:
Here, here. I attempted Foxfi, and it appears that Motorola is the only phone it doesn't work on. I really hate Verizon, and the only reason I'm with them is because of the unlimited data that I'm grandfathered into.
[X 2014 General] gotwillk:
yea same. otherwise i'd jump ship to tmobile.
[X 2014 General] mysterysauce:
Someone posted this on the nexus 6. I don't have a moto x. Its only a temp solution.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2992447

Tethering/Portable Hotspot on Verizon w/o root
[X 2014 General] dhoppy:
I can't make it work.
[X 2014 General] JayRyu:
Try this, Open up FoxFI, go to Hash code menu, type TEST (all in caps) and enter. See if FoxFI will enable wireless tethering
[X 2014 General] dhoppy:
Tried entering test, all it does is bring up the subscription check window, and then asks to enable $30 per month tethering.
[X 2014 General] revengineer:
Time to reconsider what unlimited data is worth if you don't get to use it. I switched providers and run now without any contract, which gives me more leverage. When I recently added a line, the new company wanted to charge me activation fee. I said if they do then they can disconnect my other three lines. That worked, I was not charged the activation fee.
[X 2014 General] JayRyu:
Did you keep on trying it? I am not sure if it works for Moto X but for my Z3v, I sometimes I have to try it 3-4 times before it bypasses the hotspot security.
[X 2014 General] dhoppy:
I tried 4 times in a row. Same result.
[X 2014 General] Caleeeeeeb:
is this right

I just talked to a Motorola customer services assistant and asked about a bootloader unlock on vzw this was our convo. So my question is if willing to accept responsibility and void the warranty will this work on a vzw moto x?
[X 2014 General] gotwillk:
i'm no expert on this but i'm pretty sure this is for the Pure Edition of the moto x.
[X 2014 General] Skeetch79:
Does not work for Motorola X (2014) on Vzw. At this point this device is not able to be bootloader unlocked. Just another case of a customer service rep not knowing what he is talking about.
[X 2014 General] NWKENT:
Exactly.. Most of the "Reps" have no idea what a "bootloader" is..they are trained on common, from a book situations..and most are completely green with any kinda phone mods..anyhow..

Moto has a list of "unlockable" devices..and is viewable on the web pages..and ones can decide before the purchase, for the desire to unlock, most that do any research before a purchase would know if the device is "unlockable" or not..Verizon and Unlockable and NO..is always in the same sentence..

Please don't blame Motorola, for the locked bootloader, they build what the customer/provider asks for..

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4.4.4_21.11.17.titan

XT1064 Moto G (2nd Gen.)

http://waynekent.com/page6.html

"Praise Jah" YOU people.!
[X 2014 General] azndan2:
Then why are HTC's bootloaders on Verizon unlockable?
[X 2014 General] Skeetch79:
This has been brought up many times before. Same old discussion.

Verizon does have the Samsung developer devices... Bought through Samsung however at full price... Though Samsung does not update their DevEds or give any support. They pretend they do not exist. At least moto supports their DevEd devices.

Oh wait, don't forget the moto nexus 6.
[X 2014 General] 903tex:
Root would be nice to have miss using some of the old root apps from the day. But after using phones where its locked down I gotten to the point to where I don't care for root or flashing Roms anymore. Miss the old days where Roms and root where just a given and actually made certain phones better than what they were. But I think a lot of android phones now out the box don't need root. Especially using the x. Heck I had a nexus 5 and ran it stock for the longest before I rooted and flashed a custom kernel for better battery life.
[X 2014 General] NWKENT:
Well stated Sir..very factual..

:)

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Yes..the devices Now-A-Days are much better, user friendlier, better performers out of the box, and the majority user never needs Root access..and I must say, if I was one of those users, I'd never miss having Root, if I've never had it..and seems as thow Root would be a lot easier to do without in the past couple years, much better performing devices..

BUT..this is a hobby for me, and Root is a must..lol

So..now I make sure and do the research before a purchase, that Root is possible, bootloader unlockable ofcourse..I finally cut the cord, strangle hold from "Big Red" after 11 years, I spent a good bit of money, donations, to encourage Root exploits and so on, the "Chinaman" unlock procedure and so on, once I broke free from all that..and now that I can go to any other provider with my Moto devices, I'd NEVER, EVER purchase a device with the "Big Red" branding..or any other branding..

sent by my:

4.4.4_21.11.17.titan

XT1064 Moto G (2nd Gen.)

http://waynekent.com/page6.html

"Praise Jah" YOU people.!
[X 2014 General] 903tex:
Lol don't get me wrong if root ever comes to the Verizon model I will be on it! BUT after using a lot of these devices that are out now I don't really see the need for root. This phone especially to me is out the box ready to go!
[X 2014 General] NWKENT:
Makes perfect since to me Sir..and very reasonable thinking..

The thing is, ones that want Root, have no grounds to complain about a non-unlockable device, because they should have known anyway..

Advice to those ones..sale your branded device, and go un-branded..and move away from ANY provider branded device..and choose whom your provider will be..some have no choice and must use Big Red..and that's understandable..but dont expect Root or unlocked..just hope for it..lol

There may be Root come along, because of the new way the Dev's are exploiting the "boot.img" and so on..but unlocked bootloader is another world..and even exploits are available for some devices for unlocked possible.. So..hope is out there..

Take it from someone that has spent hundreds of dollars on Root and Unlocked..don't rely on hope..move on, purchase a unlockable device..

Setting here, in this chair, with this very device in my hand, I can use three different carriers/providers without leaving my seat, just change the SIM..fact.!!

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4.4.4_21.11.17.titan

XT1064 Moto G (2nd Gen.)

http://waynekent.com/page6.html

"Praise Jah" YOU people.!
[X 2014 General] Skeetch79:
It obviously comes down to two words: user preference. Some feel they need root, some feel they don't, some are in the middle and unsure.

To some this may sound surprising, but I actually moved over to the Moto X knowing it was locked down from a developer device Galaxy s4. I bought the phone because I missed the build quality of motorola ( plus I was getting bored with TouchWiz, it was becoming very stale, personally I hated it). So far, for me, this phone is 99 percent fine without root access. I still have my galaxy s4 in a drawer. So if I ever get the urge to tinker I can always pull it back out. I bought the Moto X knowing that route may never come but as I stated I respect and missed the build quality of moto.
[X 2014 General] 903tex:
Doesn't sound surprising to me. I thought after getting this phone that it would be a Lil bump from the 2013 x. But to be honest with 5.0 on this phone I feel like this phone is basically my nexus 6 without the Roms lol.

Maybe I'm still in the honeymoon stages but I'm enjoying this phone my only pet peeve is I wish they would have went with a bigger battery. I would have been happy with a 2800-3000mah battery, but so far Motorola has coded the battery use to be enough to make it threw a day.
[X 2014 General] Skeetch79:
I agree with the battery statement. The main thing I miss is the expandable storage. With the Galaxy s4 I was able to expand with an additional 64 gigabytes. My Moto X only has 16 gigabytes of internal storage. But I do have football leather for my backing! Lol
[X 2014 General] NWKENT:
Yep..to get thru a day on battery charge is very good, considering the device is a small laptop, and does more than 10 years ago was impossible..at the time..

My advice to those ones that are terrified of not making a whole day on charge..GET A BATTERY PACK..small enuff to put in the pocket, but can get the device another 2 or three hours use..

Kinda of thread context here..but one needs to shake the tree sometimes..
[X 2014 General] 903tex:
Lol yes I almost got that model as well! But with the storage issue can be solved with just getting a usb-otg cable
[X 2014 General] Skeetch79:
LeanDroid is a good app for battery management
[X 2014 General] GatorsUF:
I want root, but a part of me does not really want unlock/custom recovery. I am like a cocaine addict, I have been clean for a few months but if a few since I got this phone, but I know if custom ROMs are an option I will not be able to actually stop myself. It is nice being able to use all the services that seemed almost meaningless when you reset you phone once a week by flashing ROMs.

I do however want root BAD, simply so i can hotspot/wifi tether. Heres to hopein'
[X 2014 General] jpen:
Yea I hear that. I definitely wouldn't mind having just root. Wifi tether, center status clock, get rid of the awful red Verizon bootscreen, deleting/replacing stock apps. That is really all I can think of to do to the phone, it is perfect besides those minor nitpicking things. Maybe everyone should just move their bootloader bounty over to the root bounty ;) lol
[X 2014 General] slogar25:
Well correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't we need root to exploit the bootloader? If I remember correctly outside of the middleman the last unlock exploits have needed root.
[X 2014 General] revengineer:
Wrong way of thinking. If you had an unlocked bootloader you can simply flash root.
[X 2014 General] slogar25:
I would prefer an unlocked bootloader as well but do you see an unlock method without middleman? In order to unlock without a certified code you would need at least a temp root
[X 2014 General] Skeetch79:
Towelroot does not require an unlocked bootloader. It exploits a vulnerability in order to install su to allow for superuser.apk to be installed. Therefore, an unlocked bootloader is not required for root.
[X 2014 General] revengineer:
Point taken, yet if you have an unlocked bootloader, rooting typically becomes non issue. Having said that for vz the exploit is likely your only hope.
[X 2014 General] rageyoudown:
I would drop 50$ on both root and bootloader.
[X 2014 General] sonic1675:
At this point I just want simple root access... Doesn't even need to be r/w root just to be able to see everything and use the apps that need root without r/w
[X 2014 General] gotwillk:
not trying to bash on anyone, but i think the people that say they don't care about root either never had root on their phones or never used it to the root's full potential.

whenever someone asks me why i would need root on a phone, i tell them root gives you full access to the phone. i compare a phone with no root access to using a computer where you are only a regular user and not a system admin. you have limited access. its almost like you are just renting the phone.

i came from a VZW LG G2. it was rooted and it was glorious. i was able to run greenify at its full potential. i was able to hide the soft navigation keys and use LMT, thereby getting the full 5.2" screen real estate. i was able to use titanium backup. i was able to transfer my pics from an old phone without the sort date being messed up. i was able to use adblockplus. i was able to use betterbatterystats. and probably the most important thing: i was able to identify apps that were draining battery, froze/uninstalled them, thereby freeing up space/memory and saving battery life. we all know we need better battery life for the moto x.
[X 2014 General] 903tex:
I've done all that with root and majority of phones I've have bought were based on root and Roms out for it. But as the specs of the phone are getting better and better. And how now companies are locking their phones down. to buy a phone with root and custom roms looks like either it being international or nexus line.

So now I've just gotten use to having no root on the phones. In a sense it better I move on with life than always tweaking and tweaking on my phone.

Not saying I wouldn't root my x if there was root out for it, but I personally think now if you can't enjoy a phone out the box and you need root getting a phone on any carrier besides HTC should be avoided.
[X 2014 General] tacosrdelicioso:
Lol. I've been a crack flasher ever since the droid incredible days. So I can tell you that I am definitely an experienced root/ROM/kernel crack whore. Been using nexus mostly ever since and then got this. Oh well. Really all this phone needs is root.
[X 2014 General] 903tex:
Droid eris when I first found out about XDA.
[X 2014 General] Caleeeeeeb:
Middleman

found this on the same site that the Chinese middleman was selling unlock codes:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c.w137644-59401639.41.vDz5YN&id=38051549195

is this legit? Cause the converted price works out to be 41.25
[X 2014 General] nmil1484:
$40. Sold!
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
Wait, what is the code seller back??!?!?!? Do we know if they have codes for Moto X 2014?

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Did you buy one?
[X 2014 General] nmil1484:
No, I was just saying that if it is $40 I am sold. The link wouldn't work for me I couldn't see it.
[X 2014 General] Caleeeeeeb:
Try this

Ok try this: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c.w137644-59401639.41.vDz5YN&id=38051549195 see if that works if not try a search on the site for moto boot loader how I found it
[X 2014 General] nmil1484:
Hmmm doesn't say moto x 2014/2nd edition. Sounds like an unlock for the first moto x
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
If he access to the database of codes perhaps he can get the Moto X 2nd gen codes. I can't find my tao bao log in that I used last time. I am going to have to make a new log in.

But there are ebay middlemen who know english and will help you make a purchase on tao bao. That is how many people did it last year for the OG Moto X.

edited - unless this is an old inactive listing? It is definitely not the guy I bought from last spring.
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
Over on the Droid Ultra forum a poster says he was able to get the Motorola site to return bootloader unlock codes for Droid Ultras.

http://xdaforums.com/droid-ultra/general/step-step-guide-how-to-unlock-4-4-4-t3005865

I can get the Request Unlock Key button to show up but get an error. Perhaps more people could try and post their results on that thread so we can figure out if in fact there is a reliable way to get the motorola site to email out bootloader unlock codes for the Verizon and ATT moto X.
[X 2014 General] nmil1484:
Just tried it got the website 404 error code
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
Yeah, so did I but a dev adrynalyne is working to see if there is any way to convert the bootloader unlock data into the proper format and query the motorola database.
[X 2014 General] TokedUp:
I like what I'm reading! Thanks guys
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
adrynalyne created a web app if you want to try your bootloader unlock data to see if your Device ID is in the database. It worked for my Dev Ed (but of course so will the Motorola site) but didn't work for my retail Verizon OG Moto X or Moto X 2014 but you never know if you will get lucky.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=58264697&postcount=48

It will send your bootloader unlock data to motorola to query the database of bootloader unlock codes. For my retail OG Moto X and Moto X 2014, it returned a message that my phone did not qualify. For my Dev Ed, it sent me the bootloader unlock code via email.

So it works but it is a just a matter of whether or not your Device ID is in the database.

There has got to be another database that has all of the codes, because that is how the Chinese code sellers were getting them. However, I suspect that it is a database that is only internally accessible through Motorola and likely the chinese manufacturing plant employees.
[X 2014 General] toricred:
Is there a Chinese middleman that can get the codes for the Moto X 2014 from Verizon?
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
The only thing that has been posted is that taobao listing a few posts back. If someone wants to try to contact the seller to ask, please let us all know what he says. On the OG Moto X forum, they thought that is the same guy they were using and the codes dryed up this fall.

Idk but that taobao seller is not the same one I bought my OG Moto X code from last spring.
[X 2014 General] nmil1484:
Just spent an hour on chat with Motorola birching about unlocking my device. They said they don't have unlock codes/keys. I said fine then give me a nexus 6 and they dodged that over and over agaon