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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] bobloblaw1:
No need to be condescending. This is the same dev that claimed he was there two days ago and then threw in the towel just hours later. This sparked the latest flame war in the R&D thread that required mod intervention. I guess that dev has reconsidered and is working on the project once again.

Id be more than happy to be proven wrong, but those who are urging caution have a basis to support their reasoning -- they aren't being downers for no reason. And seriously, this isn't an attack on anyone-- it's a case of once bitten (or several times on various devices), twice shy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kamau54:
Personally, I have given up on root, and just getting use to not having it. I'm still hoping for the best, but at the same time, looking for the worse.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kyuta Syuko:
The thing about that is getting root as a dev on your own device is one thing. Putting out something that makes it easy for most other people to get it on theirs is a whole nother animal.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Jspex:
I'd be happy with some source and a general guide. Hell, I'd put my device on the line right now (since I don't actually use it) if he gave out his method/code and a little general instruction.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] bobloblaw1:
I don't understand what you're getting at. Unless you have inside info, no individual has found an exploit to achieve root. The work that's left goes beyond packaging up an already discovered exploit.

Furthermore if you have an exploit, it's reproducible.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nemopsp:
But from my understanding the dev. don't even have a full rooted device yet..

There still trying to put it all together to get full root. Then they will probably post proof to the public that they have root and will work on public release...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Jspex:
Yes I understand that. That is why I won't bother them by asking. I'm just saying that if it were just a matter of a faulty USB port holding back development that I've got enough experience with adb/command line to follow instructions.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kyuta Syuko:
What I'm getting at is the dev is manually going through various steps in an attempt to root their phone. These steps may be more complex than the average user might be able to do. So now they have a method which they have to package up in a way that the average user can execute it with minimal effort. Granted in this case the dev could just be double checking his work and have his USB decide it wanted to start acting up.

He had posted a picture of his Note 4 or Note 4 Edge (someone mentioned seeing the Edge screen but I didn't pay that much attention to it.) running a terminal that showed root directories with r/w permissions, but that post seems to have disappeared... Kind of wish it didn't because I would like to look at it again...

*edit* Nevermind I think I found the picture in question, and now I've become skeptical...

Same here I was thinking about trying to PM the dev in question to see if I couldn't get the stuff they're working with and attempt it on my phone, but I figured they probably wouldn't respond because they'd be too busy trying to get it working.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] bobloblaw1:
I'm aware that he has been trying to use various known exploits on the phone. I'm not going to say anything negative, you can look in this thread and form your own judgments.

Yes, this is what I and others were getting at earlier.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kyuta Syuko:
Well I'm going to see what happens over the next few days before I form any real judgment. People get frustrated and quit all the time only to pick it back up later...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Android.Ninja:
Currently I've been examining in extensive detail, any & all code for every exploit thats been patched along with the rooting method that exposed those vulnerabilities. As of this time I'm moving closer to finding the pathway that allows certain ADB code the ability to read/write/modify system files at root level with root level permissions. The communications that occur for example in the LG devices during FastBoot are as of interest and I believe hold a valuable key to explaining how the communication works. I'm currently working on being able to push files and inject to bin sucessfully. Once I have access to the system files at root level, I'll push onward for a way to package an exploit to deliver root, as other root exploits have done. Once a package is built and can be delivered sucessfully, It should be able to be applied across the board for the Note 4's.

Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!

If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] NCzerniak83:
Women DO do that. With shoes.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] vdub12:
from what I understand just from reading about the subject there is a kernel exploit but there isn't an exploit for Android. apparently they're just looking for a way to get to the system UID and then they can use the kernel exploit. is there any way this can be done with some of the built-in apps? there's got to be a security vulnerability in Facebook or Twitter or one of the many AT&T bloatware apps. Is it even possible to get elevated permissions from a factory app?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Bubba Fett:
Seems easier to hack into North Korea than phones now a days. I was just checking in on progress. I bailed to tmobile and am enjoying the phone better than the service but I had to pick my poison. Seems to me all the signatures in the world will just waste paper. They only way to make a company give you what you want, is to take from them what they want. Your money. If you can stomach another carrier, try it. Good luck. I know there are alot of good devs here waiting to unleash somethings great.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] MrPlNK:
Thanks for your sweet story. Unfortunately nobody cares as this is a root progress thread for AT&T note 4, not the "hey i switched to tmobile and got root" thread. There's already one of those.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] NCzerniak83:
Some of us are trapped in a family or business plan and have to stick with AT&T. I don't mind...it's worth the wait.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] vdub12:
personally I don't mind the wait either but I'm just worried if we're waiting in vain. from everything I hear the odds are pretty high that there might never be a root for this phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] drivel2787:
Actually if you read the thread root isn't really the concern. An unlocked bootloader may never be accomplished. Trying to figure out why people keep clogging the thread up with bs like how they went to tmobile and junk. I mean posting in here isn't going to speed anything up. Be patient and let the developers work their magic. If you don't want to wait buy a different phone. Other wise quit pissing and moaning lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] wolfy287:
The minute we get root we can we can re code safestrap to flash custom roms
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Android.Ninja:
Don't worry, you're not waiting in vain. If I thought this was a lost cause, I wouldn't be this close to obtaining root on multiple Note 4 devices across the board ?

I don't care if others leave for Tmobile or some other carrier that gives you an unlocked phone at the cost of losing service. What I do care about is rooting this bit** and letting them know, they may think they can lock down the phone, but I will have root and unlock it. Take that! (End of rant: now back to rooting this thing.)

Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!

If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] heXacode:
If you don't mind me asking... I was wondering what happened to the other guys working on this before the mods closed this thread temporarily. I know you and blazinandroid1 are working on it. The other guys seem to have dropped off the radar after the last incident. Were they made aware that a new thread for devs only was made and moved? They seemed like they were close to something and I was following what they talked about to learn and understand how they do this stuff so I could get into too.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] vdub12:
Thanks man. I think you helped me make my decision. I have 10 more days to return this phone. I have been troubled by the thought of going 2 years without root. However, I love the phone and as long as I know that talented people like yourself are hacking away then i'll be patient.

Personally I don't care if I can flash Roms. I personally like the stock Roms and don't want to loose the Spen functionality anyway. I just want Root. Its buggin me not being able to block adds and run the Xposed framework. Also not being able to write to my SD card is a huge drag. lol.

Thanks for all the work you do. God bless.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Android.Ninja:
I know the other dev's were aware and we're very close to working on root utilizing a recently discovered vulnerability. However I beleieve from what I read in the dev forum, to me sounded like some people were not seeing eye to eye, or agreeing about things on the same level. I don't want to inform wrongful information. I'm only providing my opinion about what I myself read according to the statements that were made. Shortly after that, silence. So I'm not sure If anyone's working privately on this, or if everyone who was formerly working on it just abandoned it. Whichever the case may be, I hope if there was a stall in work for whatever reasons, things return to a work in progress state.

Either way, I will continue to work on root using every resource, every contact, and every extra minute that I have...

Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!

If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] thepianoman77:
Android ninja, thanks for your hard work. No one asked you to get into this but you still did... I appreciate it.

Patience is a virtue that a lot of people can't afford.

On another note for you ninja... The only way to get a dev edition note 4 is through Samsung at full price, correct? I asked a Samsung employee and they said i can get it through Verizon, but I think he's a noob. He confused me. Just point me to the truth.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Android.Ninja:
Hey no problem. What really bothers me; I hate to see people pay so much money for a top of the line "Flagship Model Phone" only to be held hostage by the same persons putting it out there by their limiting software. My opinion is that while I'm sure each and every carrier has their own excellent Dev's. There are Dev's out here on XDA that are willing to go an additional step foward and go that extra mile to give something more in a ROM, other than limitations or setbacks. I don't want to get off subject and again this is only my opinion, but the way I see it, people should be allowed to "Choose" their individuality on ROMS to suit their particular taste. I know that there are reasons these carriers lock down their phones so tightly etc, etc, and etc. But what I feel is that overall, in the majority, each and every person should be allowed the right if they are themselves paying such a high price for a device to be allowed the choice to use a better ROM other than Touchwiz, or whatever the case may be. I'm not saying of course that Touchwiz is bad. Maybe a wee bit overbloated, lol. But overall Touchwiz runs very effectively especially when you add these ability of the xposed modules for example. Even so further to point out. I have seen so many times where developers here in XDA, take a stock rom, correct most if not all of these problems, and deliver a better product. Just my opinion though ?

Concerning the Samsung Dev Edition phone. I did see it up on the VZW website at full retail price. I know Samsung offers it as well. Not sure who is better on the pricing though. But yes, I do believe VZW did have it on their site at one time

OK enough of me ranting on and on and wasting XDA'S data space, lol. I'm gonna try and get back to working on root. You may not see me post something very often. But if I'm not posting, it's because I'm working. "When" and I say "when" not "if" I achieve root, I don't expect anything in return. I only ask that you show thanks when root is achieved, by a simple click on the thanks button. That's all. ?

Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!

If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Bubba Fett:
Not my intention to ruffle your panties. Just good luck. Sounds like your about to crack the bootloader yourself so congratulations instead.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] thepianoman77:
Yes, find an exploit so big Samsung has to shut Down!.. not really, but still good luck.

I just wish I know more about these things so I could help out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ng4:
Its verizon only though, I couldn't find one for AT&T or even an unlocked model.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] iB4STiD:
hope u do it man :good:

on a side note, dev editions aside, as u guys know tmobile carrier unlocked note 4's can be had, to any of u within ur return policies, think about that!.. as long as att continues to ensure control over your handsets (which i dont see them changing) this is something that should not come as a shook, exploits come and exploits go, and i hope you guys find many!

but, when buying a device from att, never hope for root, unlocked bootlader, roms, etc.. thats not guaranteed! i feel for u guys tho, i know some of u are trapped, but there are options, dont support the ones who suppress, instead of signing a contract, save that money and buy this or any device carrier unlocked, and bootloader unlockable!

again good luck everyone :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] NCzerniak83:
Somebody a little bitter towards AT&T? lol...perhaps a disgruntled former employee? [emoji12]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] iB4STiD:
bitter? not sure how u got that ..

if ur happy with no control over a device that ur paying for over the course of ur contract, im glad .. but some here might be holding onto a device with a hope of something that may never come!

and as for working for att, no im just a former customer, who is much happier elsewhere ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
Plus 1 on that and i can vouch on him ??

Running On Deadly Venom Note 4 v1.0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] NCzerniak83:
Then take your doubt and dislike for AT&T elsewhere as, again, this is not a thread for "I'm happier without AT&T" or anything else of that nature.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ng4:
You should return the phone because with t-mobile you can get this deal if you shop online. You will also get guaranteed root and bootloader, both of which aren't available or guaranteed for AT&T as of now. You will pay the price of the phone regardless if you are on AT&T or tmobile so just buy an unlocked t-mobile phone pay the small amount each month for the phone (which you would pay to AT&T anyways) and get guaranteed root and bootloader unlock.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] iB4STiD:
hey man!!! good to see u my friend! :good:

when u become a mod i will pay attention to ur request, until then ignore my post if u don't like the truth :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
You misunderstood [MENTION=1380660]iB4STiD[/MENTION] my friend.

Running On Deadly Venom Note 4 v1.0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] iB4STiD:
think they did... what part of im trying to help im not sure he/she doesn't get

p,s..

again good luck guys!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] MrPlNK:
My favorite dev out! Me and this dude go way back haha

Hopefully we can get safestrap running soonish so we can use your tmo roms
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] iB4STiD:
thank u man, yes we do!!.. hope ur doing well my friend :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] MrPlNK:
Dude cool it. Hes not here to ruffle your feathers. Hes poking his head in to see how development is going and if theres anything he can do to help. Id be careful what you say around here, kenny is no joke. Lol

All is well man, everythings turned out 100% completely opposite than what was expected last time we spoke. Holler at me when you got a min to BS with me
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kamau54:
Someone do me a favor, and when root is established, let me know. I think I'm gonna avoid this thread because there's wayyyyy too much drama in it.

I miss root like everything too, but it's not that serious.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] PhonePhan:
MOD EDIT

Its about the progress of root.

Let's keep this relevant please.

As for the topic at hand, the latest progress was a Dev ordering parts for his computer to complete the root exploit. According to him the parts have arrived by now and there honestly isn't much here to say until the devs release the official root guide/post.

Thanks revs.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Ragnar:
This is the second time the thread has to be cleaned.

Posting any other topic other than the progress of root for the N4 is not allowed.

As well as ranting about people being off topic. Simply click the small triangle and report the post.

Edfunkycold

Have a great day!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] brorex:
Wow a couple of my favorite devs in one place where there's no devolopment...well not yet anyways. If you guys are working on this thanks I've always liked both of you guys ROM's
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nemopsp:
Well sounds like AT&T released 5.0.1 lollipop for SM-N910A...

But I'm currently staying on 4.4.4 to see if we going to achieve root? plus new software bring more issues

This is where users r goin to have to choose whats more important? having latest update or waiting on root

Also I would like to kno if we can downgrade back from 5.0.1 to 4.4.4 with Odin?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] brentsalinas714:
I'm not sure on if you can downgrade back since it will be 5.0 version, different kernal is the reason.well at least not anytime soon. It was like that on the note 3.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] terpin32:
Ill be shocked if its 5.0.1 and not 5.1 but either way not updating until they figure out root in lollipop which they might just have to flash the old 4.4.4 kernel then root then flash the new kernel been seeing that alot in newer phones
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] thanitos:
It is 5.0.1, as far as root goes we can block bloat we have a fast smooth phone as is, with some non root tweaking I can get well over 24 hours battery time, I'm going to get the s6 or m9 and that can be my riot phone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] NCzerniak83:
Amen, brother! Well put!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] torreon901:
will be hard to believe that you can go back, and only after we have the odin file(s) t push the new software to our beloved note 4 i don't think some one will try... so lets get this started.. some one get the lollipop odin files..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] thanitos:
Best case scenario is that the devs know of a bypass on lollipop that they kept locked up amongst the devs, otherwise there's no root method yet, simply because why wait to release progress when we knew lollipop was coming soon, why risk people giving up and updating and then not paying the bounty because everyone went to 5.0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ZPaul2Fresh8:
Took the plunge. Don't care.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kyuta Syuko:
It's not the kernel that prevents the downgrade. It's the bootloaders. Chances are 5.0 will have new bootloaders and we won't be able to downgrade.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] sweetboy02125:
Let's just update to 5.01. Not to be negative (don't hammer me :) ) I doubt root for 4.4.4 will come soon. Well updating now. Update comes earlier than root. No more waiting for either one
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Xak:
Also we can roll back to 4.4.4 when it does come out. The odin.tar for the SAMSUNG 4.4.4 note 4 AT&T is on the forum.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
Might not be possible if you update to Lollipop i assume the bootloader got updated with new kernel so lollipop bootloader will be different since it's now 5.0.1 we will see i am not 100% sure but that's what i thimk tho.

Running On Deadly Venom Note 4 v1.1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechSavvy2:
That doesn't necessarily mean you can roll back. Sometimes the BL etc cannot be downgraded. Hence why on a lot of Sammy devices you see long workarounds on how to downgrade. But maybe you can, someone would have to confirm first....

EDIT: Damnit......ninja'd......
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] xlr8shun:
http://xdaforums.com/note-4-att/general/roll-to-4-4-4-5-0-1-ota-t3063452

user DroidHelp101 verified you could.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] brentsalinas714:
Hmmmmm I haven't seen any post on devs thread so I wonder what that means?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DroidHelp101:
Yes I have successfully rolled back via odin. Now to proceed through the next 2 Ota in order to get back to lollipop :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
Cool as i said in my post above wasn't sure but that is great news ??

Running On Deadly Venom Note 4 v1.1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] xlr8shun:
fun fun...

thanks for testing for us though. lots of us are daily drivers, hard to find time to do something like this.

no worries, and yes. it is great news.. I might upgrade to check it out.. might just hold off, I haven't decided yet. need to find the time to stop being lazy ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DroidHelp101:
Well some one had to find out and I had free time this morning and a spare note 4 so I wasn't to worried.

Hopefully now that we know that, root progress can proceed without a delay
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] NCzerniak83:
I second this notion!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] heXacode:
Guys.... I don't want to be labeled as an ass but this thread is about root discussion as stated several times by users and moderators. Please take your Lollipop and KitKat discussions to the Lollipop updates and rollback threads or various other threads discussing those topics.

Please keep this discussion strictly about root and anything relating to root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] scarygood536:
Assuming we get root and safe strap, wouldn't it be possible to get root on 5.01 the same way as the s5 was able to? With the safe strap work around.

Although we are getting ahead of ourselves, we don't even have 4.4.4 root yet. Give developers time to look at the source there may be a new hole or method available to get root. Stay positive.

Sent from my bandaid smelling s-pen
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
Not to be negative, but I'm not sure how many devs are still trying to obtain root. I know androidninja is working at it, but it seems like the developer root thread has stopped progressing. This may sound crazy but I think most went to the nexus 6.I had a nexus 6 and sold it because I enjoy the note edge more.

Sent from my SM-N915V
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] drivel2787:
Same here
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] bobloblaw1:
I'm sure people are working behind the scenes, but if there's nothing to announce there isn't a lot of point in endless hype. People are already excited and hype just brings out the nasties.

So, we wait patiently or we attempt to learn and tackle the issue ourselves. Such is life with a locked bootloader.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
I hope you are right. I left root and unlocked bootloader when I left the nexus 6. All I care about is root.

Sent from my SM-N915V
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] br3w3r:
Not sure if it will help with Root but we can now boot to the bootloader through the recovery menu.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Ragnar:
Ok thread has been cleaned again. This is a thread to discuss the progress of root on the Note 4 not the Developers Edition. Please read and post in the correct forum.

Edfunkycold

Have a great day!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] thanitos:
I think this paired with Knox being disabled by default is a good sign
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] AtlAndroid:
Link?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] br3w3r:
Sorry about the potato quality used my Surface Pro 3 http://i.imgur.com/7ZWls97.jpg

Also we can apaprently look through Recovery logs and enable and disable CP logging.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] thanitos:
Yup, I saw this as well, maybe 5.0.1 will be the root ticket. I posted this in another topic but I'll post it here to. ...