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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
Yes it will, the dev has a note edge

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@blazinandroid1

This is directed to everyone including other devs. Multiple people are questioning the authenticity of root that blaz has obtained. A lot of people want some kind of proof. I'm just exciting as everyone else, to be honest I want it more in my opinion because I sold my nexus 6 and went back to the note edge.

I look at it this way if or if not blaz obtained root, we don't need proof until he releases the method. I say this because we've been waiting this long, and the only devs I've seen posting often about trying to obtain root was [MENTION=3176141]AndroidNinja[/MENTION] and blaz. There's some advantages of other devs trying to continue to obtain root until a proven method is released, example a dev may find a new exploit that can be used in future root methods. FYI I don't know blaz, but I know he has been trying to root the note edge for some time. Let's give him some time, this is a lot of pressure.

For the users who's patiently waiting for root. DO NOT TAKE THE OTA UNTIL WE CAN PROVE THE ROOT METHOD WORKS ON THE OTA.

Also, if this turns out to be real, please please please stay true to your word and pay your bounty. Regardless if you can't pay the entire thing at once pay something. If you only pledge $5, pay that $5... It may not seem like the dev won't miss that $5, but it's the principal behind the bounty. Bounties tend to leave a bad taste in devs mouth when people don't follow through. You may think that broken bounty/pledge only impacts the dev who earned the money, but it actually impacts all past and future devs.

Who the f am I? I'm a guy who's been around XDA for years but never truly contributed to the future of XDA. Over the last year, I've been studying Android so that I can finally start giving back to the amazing devs and community here!!!!!!

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] heXacode:
I'm the kind of guy that just sits there twiddling his thumb while watching everyone go at it like it's the last Xbox 1 being sold in Wal-Mart on a Black Friday.

Relax people. Have confidence.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pclaunch:
I traded my m8 on next for a nexus 6 in December rooted and runnining lollipop. The worker asked about it and if it was custom and asked howbi did it like he was very interested in the process. Took it back with no problem at all.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] maddawg138:
Lol same here...subscribed to both this thread and the dev thread.....I'm just excited to see that root is close to becoming a reality for us
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kyuta Syuko:
I don't know. Earlier he was asking for dev help to debug his program and now it sounds like he's refusing to give it to the devs because he's afraid they might try and steal his thunder or something...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
I think he wanted help until he started thinking about the back end stuff... I don't know the method he used, but he may be able to claim more than the bounties for the note 4... the bounties alone for the AT&T/Verizon note 4 is 15k +. Could you imagine getting 15k deposited is your paypal account in 72hrs????? I would go straight to the strip club lol

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kyuta Syuko:
That is always a possibility, but there's no guarantee he's going to get all that. Will probably be lucky to get half that. Granted it's still a pretty nice chunk of change.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
Even with half, I would still go to the strip club. Call me Floyd Mayweather Jr "make it rain" :)

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] SlothlyDX:
I would be nervous too. He did a lot of hard work and we dont know who he worked with behind the scenes. He does keep saying "we" have obtained root not I. I have seen blazindroid1 around and he is legit. The way he is going about it is much more believable than the idiots before him that tried to lie. He took his time, he showed real progress, and hasn't asked for the donations or talked about them. He is simply trying to obtain root. That's enough in my book to have some serious high hopes.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] barondebxl:
You should give credit, I have resurrected thread!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kyuta Syuko:
I'm just tired of getting my hopes up only to be let down, but either way I was still planning on waiting with eager anticipation of its release. However I have seen you around on these forums and believe you to be a creditable person, so if you believe blazin is legit then I'll have faith he's legit too.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spartan07:
I think the biggest thing is making sure we keep our pledges. I for one an not getting another Samsung phone unless it is disable or is the development version.

I don't really understand why anyone is asking for proof. I feel like [MENTION=5844563]blazinandroid1[/MENTION] does not owe us proof or anything at all. Only way I can show my gratitude is with a thank you and since a thank doesn't pay the bills with my pledge.

With root I will be able to use my note 4 for a longer period of time without upgrading.

Would like to ask. Did the wait for root change your thinking about getting another Samsung in the future? Will you be looking for a more rootable phone?

I love the stylus and that's what keeps me with the Note but I hear other phone manufactures are coming it with stylus phones (lg,lenovo,asus-i think)

Would like to know you're thoughts guys
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] maddawg138:
I personally would stick with samsung...but will get a tmobile version next time instead as I use straight talk for my service
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kyuta Syuko:
I was looking at my recovery logs the other day out of curiosity (and my phone keeps trying to update...) and noticed variables for both AT&T and T-Mobile so I'm wondering could a person buy the T-Mobile variant and flash AT&T software minus the blootloaders to it? On second thought that probably wouldn't work due to the bootloaders being different...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] vdub12:
Very much so. I have owned the note 1 the note 2 and now the note 4. This will probably be my last note if this continues. From now on I may just purchase my phone outright. With the next plan that's what we have to do anyway. Might as well just pay upfront and save some money and have a lower bill. AT&T is really screwing themselves.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] bbeelzebub:
From the looks of what is written in that thread, it's only for the Verizon model. I could be wrong, but he sure didn't mention the AT&T model when he announced it. Take it as you will.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] maddawg138:
He said att will be soon after
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kyuta Syuko:
I was under the impression that the phones were virtually the same so that what works on one should work for the other. I just think he hasn't been able to test it with the AT&T Note 4 and doesn't want to say for sure until he has.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] thepianoman77:
And after this big thing... the next big thing will be custom ROMs. Hopefully hyperdrive by scott. =]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tampa8:
Re read it, he specifically said At&t root is coming.

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Lol. They are having the best profit and best churn rate. If they are screwing themselves I want to be screwed that way too. Profits are way up. The amount of subscribers who want to root - or even know what rooting really means is miniscule. Sites like this obviously attract those of us who do want to root or learn about it but it is in no way a representation of the vast majority of subscribers.

"Wireless revenues up 7.7 percent versus the year-ago quarter" And that's just one of many gains.

http://about.att.com/story/att_fourth_quarter_earnings_2014.html
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] bbeelzebub:
I see it now. According to the time stamp, he edited the post shortly after I posted here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] vdub12:
It will hurt them. Pissing off your customers, even if it's simply a minority, doesn't help. Also this is something they are doing to intentionally piss off there customers. Its like spitting in someone's food. even if you only do it to a small percentage of your customers eventually people are going to hear that the food keeps getting spitt in.

Also many of us work in industries that people ask recommendations from.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] thepianoman77:
I think Samsung should have the option of a bootloader unlock tool for those who want it. That way, if you want to root or know about it, you take your own risk, and for those who don't know and are not interested, then they can stay that way.

I guess the only reason I see them not going out the tool is to sell dev edition phones... which I guess makes sense. But do they really make that much money off of people buying dev editions???

I just need a reason on why they do not give us the option......=/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] heXacode:
Because there are a lot of people who think they know all about root and bootloaders when they don't. Think about how much that would cost the companies with people returning their phones because they stupidly did something with little to no research just cause they wanted freedom on their phones for a ROM, theme, or root apps.

Also, security is a big issue. That would open up a lot of vulnerabilities if they just handed out the tool to everyone.

There is so many reasons why companies won't just freely hand out these tools to do whatever they please. Even the carriers would stop selling some of these phones if that became the case then profits and support would plummet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] thepianoman77:
True. That makes sense... but just as KNOX, they could put a warning and voiding warranty.

I know ASUS released a tool of this sort for tf101 back in 2011... I think... do not recall.

But your view point makes a lot of sense. After all, the tf101 was a WiFi only tablet..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] 彩色的风:
I don't think this method will trip KNOX. KNOX counter, in my eyes, will only be tripped when you flash the custom rec or firmware into your device! but it remains to be seen!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] taz44410:
It's not about security or vulnerability

It's about control

My n4 is the first at&t branded device in many years and will be my last

I have owned all the phones in the galaxy line since the s2 and I can say for sure the bootloader lock down isn't making anything any safer just Making it easier for uncle Sam to spy
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] 彩色的风:
ironic but true!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] torreon901:
Wow it's incredible.. now I own a tmobile note 4. Works just the same but ant way I'm keeping bounty because 1st I promised and second if in the future I get the next note and is att I want devs to continue contributing to help on our devises.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] WizeGuyDezignz:
This is awesome news at the perfect time! It should help the resale value of my Note 4 next week. :D:thumbup:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] howellcp:
I wouldn't get my hopes up yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Xak:
+ move apps to sd cards entirely to run them off of it to have more storage, greenify, roms, etc
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] vdub12:
be able to actually write to your SD card. by the way that was the single most stupid decision Google ever made is to make the SD card read only. someone should literally get fired for that suggestion.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] PaulPizz:
Agreed. But with root this can be fixed
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] vdub12:
Ummmm, yeah. With root. lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] WizeGuyDezignz:
Damn, that sucks lol. I'm selling it next week either way, so I will wait and see what happens!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] drivel2787:
Anyone know what exploit was used to gain root on the VZ model?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] windstrings:
It's limited, the Samsung file manager has always been able to write to the SD.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] vdub12:
All system apps can still write to the SD card. However, the Samsung file manager sucks compared to ES.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] windstrings:
True, just saying it gets the job done, I use Es for all else
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] husker97:
Sorry to ask this question, but where is the process to remove automatic system updates. I can't seem to find it or remember what it is called. I just want to make sure I don't automatically update to 5.0 before root is released.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] longview41:
Search for Debloater on XDA.

Remove the SDM.apk if on VZW, or Com.ws.dm if on AT&T

(and any other crud you dont want - like all the VZW/AT&T apps)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] vdub12:
I haven't even received a notification for the update yet. I just plan to ignore it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] raynan:
I would either pm the dev in the R&D thread or wait until it is actually released to the public to ask; they likely won't want to give it out so that someone else doesn't take credit for his hard work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] v3ngence:
If root needs android 4 then you can just use Odin and go back...

Lollipop is seriously better, I wouldn't miss out just because we have a "hope" at root!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] husker97:
Thanks. Is it the smart deboater by SkywalkerZ that you are talking about?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] abthegreat:
Have a look here ,

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-att/general/debloater-remove-bloatware-t3008238
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] longview41:
I havent used that.

I was talking about:

http://xdaforums.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] husker97:
Awesome, thanks guys.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] SlothlyDX:
A lot of doubters in here! I know your chains have been jerks a few too many times but this seems real. Maybe I am wrong and I will be the first to admit it but I truly believe we have root. I would not take the LP update until sold proof shows you can odin back. Trust me LP is not that great or a big deal. It's hyped up. I personally prefer root. We will find out more this weekend I am sure.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] vdub12:
Odin back has been confirmed.

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-att/general/roll-to-4-4-4-5-0-1-ota-t3063452
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nnnnr14:
It's so tempting!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
Yes tempting but if you don't take the update it will automatically update on it's own believe what i am saying unless you use the debloater and block the update.

Running On New Deadly Venom Note 4 v1.2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
This may not work for Verizon... Verizon can push something that will block rolling back.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] garwynn:
To all:

Thread cleaned again. Next time won't be just a cleaning.

The fact that we had to shut this thread down temporarily to avoid going off the tracks should have been sufficient notice.

Apparently people don't want to listen or talk back to other members so I'm going to make it REAL simple.

Keep on point to the discussion of root progress. You may talk about what's in the R&D notes, such as it seems N4/S5/Edge all have root solved.

Please do not start going off into other tangents. The community has had enough warning on this and we don't have time to constantly monitor a single thread.

Next time a mod comes in it will be to close it... and I cannot guarantee the next time will be temporary.

If there are any additional questions you are more than welcome to PM me. I will not respond in thread and any responses to this in-thread will be dealt with quickly and severely.

I understand it's an exciting time right now based on yesterday's news... but don't ruin it for everyone else following please.

Thank you for your time and understanding.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] bobloblaw1:
Hsbadr stated that he has not received anything from blazindroid1 as of this morning in his edit to http://xdaforums.com/note-4/galaxy-...10v-models-t3042045/post59857579#post59857579.

If he doesn't have it and no other devs have chimed in, I think it's pretty likely that no one has been provided the requested files.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] StayingSober:
This is only my second post in this thread, so I know the "annoying" comment wasn't directed to some of us, but I think the reason the majority of us are so skeptical (whether we voice our opinion or not) is due to past occurrences with this phone. Back in December, us Note 4 users went through the same scenario, and like clockwork it all was proven to be some elaborate troll. The only difference is the last guy was a pathological liar beyond the point of him claiming he rooted the phone, he made a lot of people angry.

I myself am the type of person to give someone the benefit of the doubt, because we all know for a fact we have some incredible Devs here who have achieved some great things in recent years. Some of us just need to keep the skepticism to ourselves. If [MENTION=5844563]blazinandroid1[/MENTION] is the real deal, then he is bound to make a great deal of our community of Note 4 owners happy and he will surely receive the recognition he deserves. On the other hand, if he isn't, then we need to just move on and let other Devs handle it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
you need a signature to flash files in odin to my knowledge. if we had the signatures wed be able to just unlock the bootloader.

i am sure if this was possible itd already be done
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
Yes, you need signatures for verification. I think if you look around you will see that I said, that I felt the communications between the ADB command and the device was what I was talking about. It already has the ability to backup and restore natively to the system folders as well as data. Looking into a possible vulnerability in this mechanism is where I was going.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jay8302:
I've been reading all the threads and it all boils down too this:

1. Lollipop is out root might not work update at your own risk.

2. Root method has been found but not confirmed yet

3. If your not a dev then there not much we can do but wait or switch phones.

With all this being said there no need for anymore chatter until something is comfirmed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
Thread in time out

I will be going through the last few pages of posts to decide the thread's fate

I made a post in the Dev ONLY thread. Please have a look.

But remember, no posting in there unless it is developer level information to help in root

Friendly Neighborhood Senior-Mod
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
OK...let's try something different. Let's keep this thread on topic with thoughts on root and the developers popping in to say what they are working on.

For everyone else that wants to argue conspiracies or talk about anything else I made a new thread here http://xdaforums.com/note-4-att/general/off-topic-roor-waiting-t3073034

As of right now there is no root method! None! Blazinandroid1 stated he had partial root....however nothing really worked. Looking at his Note Edge thread, he tried every root method he could there. Since he has given no details here then we can only guess what he did...perhaps the same and one of those methods gave indication of root but no proper root access. If he explained what he did, other developers can collaborate and maybe fix it. Otherwise something like this can take months to get working if at all.

You can't blame many for being skeptical because the community has been scammed before..and the lack of info does not help.

Of course XDA wants nothing more than you guys to have root to spur develop, activity, Google hits, etc. And at the same time understand your frustration....so please use the other thread I linked to vent and try to keep the more serious on-topic discussion here so those that are interested in the methods and current news can subscribe and not scan through a bunch of posts on whether it is real or not.

Thanks guys for your cooperation in keeping the threads separate and all working to keep your house (XDA) running smoothly and tidy!

Friendly Neighborhood Senior-Mod
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kyuta Syuko:
In regards to blaze's method, what could possibly cause the bugs he claims to be having after rooting? The random freezes and longer boot up time?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] heXacode:
Many things can cause this. We don't really know anything until he discloses his findings. He had USB trouble a couple weeks ago. I'm not even sure if that contributes to anything or not relating to the freeze up and longer boot time.

Many times injecting something or crashing something will cause a disturbance in the software section. Could that contribute to the issues? Possibly.

We just don't know anything at this moment till he discloses all this info.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
I think it's more than just blaze working on the root. His comment said "we received root"... then he followed with "hope to have the app out this weekend"... All that makes me believe he has someone helping him, and that may be why he hasn't responded in the last two days...

As for the long boot times it can be a number of things. First it depends on if he trying the root method on lollipop or kitkat. When I had my nexus 6 I noticed lollipop tends to boot up slowly even with decryption disabled due to art.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] thepianoman77:
I think blaze and android.ninja are working together. But I also heard that the exploit didn't work on note edge, or perhaps I misunderstood.

I hope I did and they are working the bugs on the exploit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
You read it wrong, blaze himself has a note edge...

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] thepianoman77:
Oh ok... good... cause I know they work hard.

I hope other people keep their word on bounty.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] stealyourface1:
It's confirmed (verizon N4) that you can flash back to kk 4.4.4 from lp 5.0 if need be...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
Serious thread is serious!

No more whining or flaming...or I will get..."Unfriendly"

Whine about missing or needing root or whining about whining in the OT root waiting room...and be nice!

Thank you for your cooperation

Friendly Neighborhood Senior-Mod
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] stealyourface1:
Root question...I just downloaded the new update and in the package is 2 different os, I started (b4 update) ANJ5 I downloaded first update now the build shows ANK5 and asking if I wanna dl the next packet containing the 5.0 LP....was wondering if this can help with root somehow? I will hold off taking the second packet until someone says I'm an idiot or a genius lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Ragnar:
No go ahead and take both updates.

Please also refrain from double posting the same thing in multiple threads.

Edfunkycold

Have a great day!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Jspex:
Just a snipit from the Verizon root thread. Root is being worked on, it just takes time. No its not a hoax, nor was it an April fools prank. It is a long process though. Maybe he thought he'd have it sooner and posted early, no biggie. Just feels amazing to know that with all the b.s. bickering in all the threads that he is still working on it for all of us.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jcase:
From the perspective of someone who has a long history of writing root exploits, and does android security for a living, his comments make no sense to me, but hey I'm leveling no public judgement on this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ZPaul2Fresh8:
I've been calling this ever since his first claim... He's trolling and the worst thing about it is that anybody else that could possibly develop a root for this device is probably not going to since they might believe someone is already working on it.