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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jolly_roger_hook:
If you mean obtaining root no we have to have a kernel and system exploit to obtain root anymore

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DeathLord..:
Only had this phone for a week I love it wanna root it but I may have to return it and switch
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JOSHSKORN:
There are known kernel and system exploits, yes?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Puppy69us:
It's my understanding. Yes there are known exploits. However none work currently. They would have it solved shortly if it were so simple. Unfortunately, were waiting until someone can find an exploit. Fortunately, we have very intelligent devs working hard to help us.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DeathLord..:
I truly hope the devs can figure this out quickly. I really want root badly for so many reasons.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] PhillyFlyer:
Bro - this phone was released 8 months ago...quickly should be deleted from your last post. We are clearly in all types of trouble with the root topic, because when this phone becomes obsolete in the market (release of a Note 5) devs will move on and leave it where it lies.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
im surprised no dev has chimed in about the bl unlocker samsung released in china for the g9250 and if it has anything useful or not..

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here again is a link to a thread with 4+ users saying they got it from samsung and it unlocked their BL..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=60170560

and here is a thread where two vversions of the actual apk are posted:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=60205122
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Puppy69us:
Unfortunately that's for the S6 edge. I don't believe the hardware is similar enough to allow this to work for our phones. However, could this be useful to pull from and see how Samsung is unlocking the bootloader? I have no idea what the Crom service is or how it works.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] note3palermo:
What is the main blocking point of us rooting this phone? (the GN4) Is the boot loader the main issue blocking everything?

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What I'm reading, is it true that the S6/s6edge are being rooted already?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
The s6 for Verizon and AT&T have not been rooted. The bootloader unlock is something they hope to manipulate for the s6. There's two issues I see with that... 1. If the apk doesn't need to report back to samsung to unlock, they should be good to change the verifications in the apk to work for Verizon. 2. It's very possible this won't work for the note 4 because it utilizes a snapdragon processor... All the s6's utilizes samsung processor.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] note3palermo:
I'm just going to throw this out there, I left iPhone at the 4s to come to the "darkside" and Samsung. . Because of the root the freedom of it all. . My question is this, what happened to it, ROOT, I mean. It was what Samsung was all about. The freedom of it all. . Is this gone? Ios seems to be jailbroken every time. . I know why it is so hard, I guess, due to the wide variety of Samsung devices all need the same code to work.... Is that right... At this point I'm frustrated and wondering why. . Is the Samsung freedom going?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
idevices get jailbroken because they all have the same processors, kernels, etc... So their development community is all working in the same phone/device to obtained root. Think of it this way, if there was only 1 android phone, they would never stop us from getting root because we would have 100s of devs. Android is fragmented like crazy so now our dev community is 100's of devs / firmware version / kernel version/ processor type / phone brand / carrier....

The future of xda and Android is buying dev phones, or phones with an unlockable bootloader.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Ragnar:
I think you are blaming Samsung when you should be blaming the carriers. Samsung locks down the bootloader at the request of ATT and Verizon.

The same identical device gets rooted and unlocked on Sprint and T-Mobile. The Tmobile version is almost identical to the ATT and the Verizon is similar to Sprint.

This is at the carrier request. The easy answer to solving the 'I need Root' issue is buy a device from a carrier that does not lock it down, some INT unlocked device or a DEV device.

If switching carriers is an issue then look for a device which can easily be rooted as opposed to one which gets locked down.

Just some choices for those who 'Need Root'
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] note3palermo:
Yes I understand that for sure. With the iPhone, Saurik has hundreds of followers and devs doing their thing to jailbreak ONE device. . Only one. With Samsung, there is the note 4, the s6 the s6 edge and so on and so forth. . So many things to overcome. What if everyone just put their focus on the note 4,then it would be rooted. The issue is not everyone has that or thinks that phone is their cup of tea. So they all, we all want ROOT for our cup of tea. . I totally get it. What if Instead of gaining root, we just wrote those programs that are used in root, write those programs in form of apps? . Like a boot app where we can control what loads or as in cyanogen mod, someone just made that theme. . What about the other apps or exposed modules. What if those apps or functions were just made into working apps? Can that happen? . These devs are so smart and everyone wants the same thing. . With us wanting this so bad, it has to happen. I'm only asking Questions because I don't know those answers obviously. If one click ROOT worked for something, the note 4,it would have to work for another Samsung phone too. Or towelroot. I thought towelroot was the best thing I've ever seen. . Does tripping Knox compared to not tripping it make a huge difference with coding? Or even better, who really cares if Knox is tripped? I know I don't.... But why would we care really if it is tripped or not.... I dont get that. . I care less if Knox is tripped. . It's my phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] raynan:
At least they have recently been using VERY similar hardware between devices in the same generation.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] drivel2787:
Take a look and let us know LOL
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ZPaul2Fresh8:
It's for the S6 Edge, but I'll kindly look at it just for future reference.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] drivel2787:
I was referring to the person who keeps asking about it. Instead of insisting someone else looks at it why not look at it yourself? (Not you). I'm no code expert. I'm a networking guy but I can easily grab the source out of an APK and throw it into a decompiler to view the source code. A lot of people are wanting root on this thread and distracting the thread with ideas but not assisting at all.

Again I'm not an expert but it looks like it pulls info from the device and runs it against a check on a server. If the certain serial # and device type match then it unlocks the device.. Not sure how far off I am or if that's correct.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] eklipz3:
Be nice if that is it and not sure how easy it is in Android but when I use to do Windows coding you could change some jumps to fool a program to make it think it checked.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
the reason i posted here was because no one has mentioned it all and it could potentially be tweaked to work on other devices...

Clearly, if i knew what i was looking at code wise, i wouldnt need to post for someone experienced to look at it.

this thread is for root progress but also for ideas on getting root. Your comment on my post is irrelevant and 0 help towards obtaining root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] drivel2787:
Nor does your posting here about an application that is not at all related to the device root is being worked on. How about learn and try to help contribute :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
a samsung apk that unlocks the BL for a galaxy phone has 0 potential towards rooting a device.

it doesnt hurt to look into it. instead of trolling ppl proving an idea just dont post at all
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] drivel2787:
As mentioned previously with all these "ideas" anyone can provide an idea all day long and keep filling up this thread. It's not going to help if you're not willing to actually look into it and help. Otherwise there's no reason to provide "ideas" I'm sure that the developers already have "ideas" and are working on them to try and provide us root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] vdub12:
I have to disagree. My idea of using adb backup is currently being looked at in the root thread. So people posting ideas that maybe the dev haven't thought of could be useful.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] drivel2787:
Pretty sure that idea was not posted by you and was an original concept by gates junior posted over a month back.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] vdub12:
OK, whatever. I posted several posts about adb backup and system permissions just a few days ago. I'm not aware of older posts. The point is, what if one of these "silly" ideas actually gets root? Everything starts as an idea. Sometimes even a stupid idea that works. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
Designgears just posted some information in the dev thread regarding what he believes should be the next steps. Dude really knows his stuff

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3086609

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Surge1223:
Hmm interesting so libQSEEcomApi.so deals with all qseecom calls including smc calls made to TZ. So apparently some qseecom call is needed to unlock the bootloader on those foreign s6 edges.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
Gatesjunior did originally post about using adb, but the guy you are going back and forth with rejuvenated the idea, and now the devs are taking a second look at it.

I say again to those who are giving individuals with ideas/questions are hard time, it's no need.. without them this thread would be completely dead. I agree while coming up with ideas you should study in parallel. That way in the future you can continue contributing ideas, and have some testing experience to also contribute. In the mean time, if you are asking relevant questions about root, process methods, or anything else that may lead to development, keep it coming. This is not a developers thread, this thread is about root in the general section. If you are unhappy with those asking relevant questions about root, or ideas about a process it should be allowed. If you don't want to see the questions, go to the developers thread

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] drivel2787:
Sure thing if you want to clutter the thread up with a bunch of useless nonsense :thumbup:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
non sense that got the attention of a few experienced devs. It clearly is new and potentially helpful to know how samsung unlocks one of their devices using an apk
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
Can we please stop the back and forth, we appreciate both of your contributions and time. This thread is finally alive again, let's work together and keep this train moving forward. Thanks

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] drivel2787:
Your missing my point. Any person can post a link. How about decompile it and look at the code? Maybe learn something. That's my point. My five year old can post a link. I'm done. Thread is alive hopefully we get root soon. I'll be actually looking at code and seeing if I can help in any way instead of just typing on a keyboard or swiping words into a post.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
i did decompile the apk and posted in other thread what i saw but i do not know coding so i posted for devs to look into it. I never claimed to be almighty but I am not stupid to where i didnt decompile the apk.. Again, if I knew coding and was some codeing pro I would have never needed to post it anywhere.

this apk has been in threads for days now with no attention and couldve passed devs up if it wasnt posted.

at least i posted what you would call an "idea" instead of what you are doing which is attacking others for trying to contribute to the discussion/ideas to get us root and maybe even an unlocked BL eventually.

If you or any devs dont like my post then dont read them and mods are welcome to delete it if it is irrelevant.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] drivel2787:
I'm not attacking anyone. It was said in this thread a little while back same thing. That flooding the thread with ideas is pointless. I guess if they get root from your idea all the credit goes to you as well
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Ragnar:
End the back and forth. Any idea is a good idea and better than no idea.

Let's continue trying and working together

Edfunkycold

Have a great day!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
I cannot agree more. There is active work going on with the vulnerability that was found. And some POC work as well. Now you all just need to sit back and wait to see if any of us working on this get to any point where we can exploit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
Dude your are nominated for mod of the year. I'm sorry to get off topic but you be joining the conversations, providing helpful hints, and when things are going bad in a thread you take the high ground, shut down the problem while still showing respect to the forum. In my book you are cool as a motha. Thank you

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
Thanks gatesjunior, I don't know if it helps but any other dev dropping into the thread, if you have the time to help [MENTION=787413]zxz[/MENTION]000 was looking for more dev testers.... THIS REQUEST IS ONLY FOR Recognized DEVs. These are three guys that I know are very educated [MENTION=2260077]Android.Ninja[/MENTION] [MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION] [MENTION=5868929]hsbadr[/MENTION]

ZxZ000

"Any dev with correctly set up Android Studio wants to test (in the best case with N910VVRU1ANJ5)?"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DeathLord..:
This sounds promising for Verizon and hopefully At&t note 4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Android.Ninja:
Sorry I haven't chimed in lately. I was very sick & admitted to the hospital, but I'm back to working on trying find root possibilities for us. If testing is needed to be done send me a pm. Retired from software / engineering & have multiple experiences on many platforms.

Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!

If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JOSHSKORN:
Sorry to hear you were sick. Glad to see it seems you're doing better. I think I speak for the rest of us, but I'm definitely "rooting" for you guys to find get root for this phone. :) Thank you, sir...as well as everyone else, contributing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
no worries or rush man, hospitals suck so glad you are not in there anymore! Let US know if YOU need anything lol dont stress out over root, its not worth it! help when you can with what you can and nothing more brotha, we appreciate anything and glad you are around when you can be :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DeathLord..:
I am so Very Happy to see that no one has given up on rooting the AT&T Note 4. I just wanna say I have MAJOR Respect for all DEVS working on this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] note3palermo:
This phone, the best phone on the planet, WILL BE ROOTED. I can only give props at the moment and wish I could be the one to get it done.. I just wish..... I'd work on it every single free second I'd have. I only wish I knew what to do. These devs, I give all the props in the world
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Solarkiller13:
Reward still active? also compinsation in hardware?

Is the compinsation tally for the rooting of the at&t note 4 still going on?

Also I am curious if I could offer up two brand new 800gb Enterprise SSD''s or other hardware as opposed to a cash reward?

Is that an option?

Thanks,
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Xak:
this should be in the bounty thread not developers only. [MENTION=379930]kennyg[/MENTION]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JOSHSKORN:
http://xdaforums.com/note-4-att/general/bounty-att-note-4-root-knox-list-pledges-t2946770
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] note3palermo:
If the root for the galaxy note 4 is available for other carriers, what is it that's making it so difficult and different for the att variant? Like isn't the t-mobile note 4 rooted?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nemopsp:
The retail edition of AT&T and Verizon have locked bootloaders...

Also as ChainFire said that even on unlocked bootloaders devices.. after 5.0 lollipop, to obtain root they need a custom kernel

hopefully they will find exploits for both 5.0 and 4.4.4 but for now.. it's a waiting game

That what makes it soo hard...

Which this post don't help obtain root

Ask questions in Off topic thread!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3073034
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DeathLord..:
I myself would settle for any root on the note 4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
wrong thread... i didnt know there was different types of root lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DeathLord..:
I guess I should clarify... meaning kitkat or lollipop. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] rquinn19:
While his post doesn't make sense since the bounty could clearly buy him what he wants with plenty of $$$ left over, this is not the dev only thread. Completely different thread. What's up with all the wannabe mods nowadays?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] note3palermo:
With a locked bootloader,, that only means you can't flash a custom rom, right. . What if the person as only wants to use xposed modules? For me, gravity box, xui and those few other types of modules are all I want, are all I will ever want. I don't want any custom rom. . Is that what a locked bootloader prevents? A custom rom? Or you can't root with a locked bootloader. . I read that, a locked bootloader doesn't prevent root. Just prevents flashing custom roms. . Where could I find this info. In what a locked bootloader prevents.? My heart is so broken without root. I find my note 4 just a normal phone at this point. . Sucks.. Can the newest nexus be rooted? With lollipop?

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Which phones can be rooted? With the newest version of lollipop?

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On AT&T, that is.....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DeathLord..:
I must agree. I don't want a custom rom. I need root for several of my favorite apps that have never failed me before and made my phones run a whole hell of a lot better.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kyuta Syuko:
Last time I checked Chainfire found an exploit that allowed root without a custom kernel and built it into the latest SuperSU app. As for the T-Mobile variant having root and pretty much being the same as the AT&T variant minus the locked bootloaders it got root via some odin flashable method (I believe it was odin can't remember what method it was atm...) which of course locked bootloaders prevents.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DeathLord..:
I read this on another site snooping for anything root and seen the following and figured I would present it to see if it's possible.

Has anyone ever thought to use an apn backup program to replace the file with one from a version that can be rooted, root it that way, then change back
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Ragnar:
I'm just going to leave this here...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DeathLord..:
I apologize for offering some help.

We the public would like to know what the status is on the AT&T Note 4 root. Provided We the public are not waiting our time in hopes of root that may not be happening.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Ragnar:
I Do not see why you think that was directed at you?

That was a very General Statement.

But I will explain the simple meme for those who may not get it.

I am seeing repeated comments and suggestions made several posts ago or several pages ago or several weeks ago.

This clearly means that people are not reading the thread and just blindly posting comments.

Or they simply like to see their username with a useless comment on the thread.

The first and foremost rule on XDA is to read and search before ever posting. Because 99% of the time it's already been said, asked or mentioned.

So tip of the day "read a thread whether 2 pages long or 171 pages long before posting"

Edfunkycold

Have a great day!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Surge1223:
Can I add to your meme with one of my own? (that I have made myself)

Basically I think what he's also trying to say is, before posting a question in here please please please
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] eklipz3:
I hope I'm not wrong by saying this but the time it takes to obtain root is determined by the expertise of the person working on it, we lost 2 highly skilled people so give these other guys a chance. Mods delete if this shouldn't be posted here.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
this is the wrong thread for general questions..

a locked BL prevents you from flashing a custom kernel/BL and havimg a true custom recovery.

Root can be obtained without an unlocked BL as well as a alternate recovery option like safestrap can be used to flash roms. We just cant flash kernels.

With that being said, last i checked xposed and v4a require permissive kernels so even with root you cant use them since we have locked BL's and permissive SELinux needs a custom kernel to function at this time.

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you are mistaken. thereis a bounty thread and a off topicroot waiting room. although this isnt a dev only thread, its solely to post suggestions for root methods and for devs to update ppl if they have any news.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] liquidaluminum:
Well, AT&T will unlock your BL for you, providing you have a history of on time payments, and the account is currently paid in full. I just paid my bill off and was told that as soon as it reflects to my account, the code to unlock my BL would be sent to me immediately. Does this mean anything to you guys? If you have even ONE Note 4 that the boot loader has been unlocked on, could that phone be rooted, or would that just be the start of the game?

This was found on their policy website which prompted me to call.

http://www.attpublicpolicy.com/wireless/bottom-line-we-unlock-our-customers’-devices/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] cstayton:
No AT&T won't unlock your Bootloader what they are telling you is they will give you the code to SIM unlock your phone so you can use a different carriers SIM.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
Unlocked from AT&T means only sim card unlocked , not bootloader so the answer is no root for it.

Running On New Deadly Venom Note 4 v2.0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] liquidaluminum:
I'm not sure if you guys looked at the link that I posted below, but it clearly states that they will not unlock their phones to use with other carriers, nor will they unlock another phone to use with them. When she asked me why I wanted to unlock my BL, I told her for root reasons, and she said that if I chose to root it, I would totally void my warranty and would hate to see me make that mistake, but both the article and the rep specifically said BL.

Anyway, just trying to be helpful.

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I do apologize. I thought her and I were on the same page.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
Has anyone heard from [MENTION=3178012]gatesjunior[/MENTION] and team? They were testing some adb commands but no one posted an update

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] heXacode:
Nope. I never received the files to test in Android Studio.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
I am getting the files Saturday to do some investigative work and looking at system level access. Also, we are still working on some POC items as well.