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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] borijess:
Wow that would be nice to have root on 5.1.1. It would suck if 5.0.1 gets it and we can't roll back. Any progress is good progress.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] k1darkknight:
Is it possible to upgrade a 4.4.4 rooted Note 4 from KitKat to 5.1.1 with a custom ROM? Or are there no 5.1.1 custom ROMs yet?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nemopsp:
Well to answer your question properly 4.4.4 is not permanently rooted... so no...

But if we had a permanent root solution yes... we could install multi system and run a 5.1.1 rooted TouchWiz rom off an SD card... so I mean if we had a permanent root solution doors would open...

No AOSP roms or CM based roms tho due to locked bootloader... can't install a custom kernel to run. Would b stuck with only TouchWiz roms, but we could debloat them an also port over Note 5 rom or Galaxy S6 rom.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] k1darkknight:
Okay, so...just so I'm sure I understand...

AT&T Note 4 = no perma-root, only root-till-reboot, at best

T-Mo Note 4 = able to perma-root, custom bootloader, custom ROM, and everything...and fully compatible with AT&T (and, by extension, Cricket)

That sound about right?

*EDIT* Also, are both versions of the Note 3 capable of being perma-rooted?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] eklipz3:
I'm going out on a limb here but didn't at one time the SD card could be used to help obtain root, and since they are getting away from sd cards is it still somehow possible and that could be part reason for getting away from the SD card. Just curious.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yamaha_wins:
I'm pretty sure it's because Microsoft owns rights to the file system which the SDcards use or something like that.. I read a article that said how much Microsoft got for each device sold.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Glitch01:
Last AT&T device I will buy. As long as boot load is locked, I will be boycotting AT&T purchases.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] lamarwallace:
I second that. I traded my AT&T note edge for a t-mobile note 4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kamau54:
I agree 110%. AT&T will never see another purchase of their phones from me. The Note 4 is a beast of a phone, but held back by AT&T rules.

And I wholeheartedly agree with the poster that said we'll be never see permanent root, though I was saying that months back.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Reinaldo33897:
I agree with the rest of you at&t will never see another upgrade from me no matter how popular their phones become.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] borijess:
I just got rid of my att note 4 for a tmobile note 4. Best move ever. Couldn't be another year without root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] el_chiefo:
I just dumped the Note 4 for the Nexus 6P ... No more locked, under contract phones for me....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
i assume you sold note 4 and then paid on top of that for the 6p?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] edjahman:
Unfortunately I can't really see getting rid of my Note 4 just to get a Nexus 6P which has seemingly lesser specs just so I can flash away with ROMS. It's really tough because I have considered it a lot.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
specs maybe not as good but a new device with unlocked BL is worth a note 4 which currently the note 4 is cheaper..

the note 5 however is worth more than an 6p to me lol

i wont trade my s6e for a 5x due to hardware and iverall value is higher (and i at least have root on it with vzw)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] edjahman:
I understand. I have considered it a lot.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yamaha_wins:
I'll trade my note 4 for a 6p. Even.. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
lmao anyone prolly would
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] F3AR420:
Love this phone and would never trade it for a 6p. This phone of just a higher quality device even with the lack of root it's still a solid device. I for one am not giving up on it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] IcemanRevenge:
Not me, I value a removable battery more.

I'd probably trade for a V10 straight up though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yamaha_wins:
I just replaced the batteries on mine and my wifes note 4s. Both would be at random battery percentage and die with a dead battery. But you could plug the phone into the charger, once it booted back up it would show the same percentage which it just died over a dead battery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hollwpoint:
Did anyone ever find out the viscous wake lock on 5.1.1 stock? Its outrageous
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] NYYFan02:
My battery has been progressively worse with each update: 4.4.4 to 5.0.1 to 5.1.1. I literally hibernate almost every process when my screen goes off and it's still terrible; barely get 3 hours SOT. Was getting almost 6 on 4.4.4 with Google now on and no greenify.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hilokilo:
Jeez I actually miss the 6 hour SOT on kitkat. Now I hardly get 2 hours
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hollwpoint:
What u think causes it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Blob Blobbed:
The well-known, gradual degradation of Lithium-ion batteries over time is the culprit. To make things worse, the average person's patterns of usage and charging habits also happen to be very rough on these batteries. Factors that accelerate lithium-ion degradation include: consistently charging battery to 100%, leaving the phone, on or off, at a high % level for extended periods of time (plugged in overnight, or charged to 100%, unplugged, and left at 100% overnight are both equally bad for battery), consistently letting the battery run below a certain % (20%-50% depending on where you look), exposure to high temperature, operating device while while battery is exposed to high temperature, operating device and charging while exposed to high temperature.

I've noticed in forums around the internet that a lot of the people who complain about battery life also tend to relate it to their batteries past "SOT" ability. Unfortunately, habitual long-term SOT , just so happens to be one of the few activities that will accelerate lithium-ion degradation most, as it includes operation at higher-temperatures, operation at low percentages, and a higher rate of charging in general.

Its unfortunate that battery technology cannot give us anything better right now, but we are still fortunate enough to wield the best smart phone on the market, root or no root.

Samsung also sells new batteries for the phone on their website for something like $25 with free shipping, pretty reasonable. Pony up an extra fifteen, you can buy a portable charger that also comes with an extra battery, $40. Damn reasonable. I remember when I had an S4 and the new battery was 40 or $50.

Its going to wear out, buy a new one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hollwpoint:
Um..this phone is brand new. Lol

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Um...yea..this phone is brand new..just curious on the known bad wakelocks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Blob Blobbed:
In that case, you could have a faulty battery and should be contacting someone about your warranty ASAP. Otherwise, you might try a factory reset, there could be an app causing your

wakelock issues.

Either way, it is very doubtful that whatever "known" wakelock issue you mentioned is connected to the OS version, much more likely it is an app, faulty battery, or outrageous settings.

I would get in touch with Samsung and let them know there is a problem as soon as you can so you can get it on file. They will probably request a factory reset before warranty. Apparently redeeming the manufacturers warranty through them can be a pain in the ass, so the sooner the better. Good Luck.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] NYYFan02:
I think it's no coincidence that battery has gotten worse with each update honestly (each of which I've done a factory reset after)... I have 3 batteries (thanks to the crappy battery life) ranging from the original one to one I bought just a few weeks ago, and the difference between any of them is negligible. I'm not a huge app person, I have maybe 10 or 15 apps that are not stock; and they get hibernated everytime my screen goes off... I wish I knew the issue, but it's been very disappointing from the 4.4.4 days where I could go almost 2 days on a battery charge.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hollwpoint:
See?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Mad383Max:
Post screen shots of your open/running apps. Check your wifi settings. My wife's Mega 2 was just force updated to 5.1.1 and it exhibited your pattern of battery usage. The update put all settings back to factory and where she was working had multitudes of wifis around her and it was killing her battery. There are many things that can affect your battery life and I agree with whoever said it was most likely app related. I am 5.1.1 and get over 5 hours SOT consistently. That is with everything aleays on ,Bluetooth, GPS and wifi (only connects to my home) and usually 1 to hours tethering my surface pro through it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hollwpoint:
It drains even when I disable apps. This is just a gist of apps running.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hollwpoint:
More
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
Facebook!

Disable or remove.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] NYYFan02:
I did that a while ago personally; just use it on chrome. Made naught difference.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jack man:
Disable the Unified Daemon app. It will make a big difference. Also, disable the two com.facebook apps but not the actual FB app.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hollwpoint:
Same as what nyy said. No adverse affects

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I'm not rooted. I'm purely stock

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And which FB are u referring to?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jack man:
I'm pure stock, too. Go into your all apps list and find two apps next to each other - com.facebook.appmanager and com.facebook.system. they won't affect your use if the Facebook app, and it won't use battery as much.

Here's pics of all the apps I have disabled. No adverse affects from disabling these. I've also used Package Disable from the play store and disabled more than this (ones that can't be disabled from the apps setting menu).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hollwpoint:
I've done majority of those, and the awake is still the same.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jack man:
But according to your earlier post there are many still running that are draining your battery; namely the com.facebook.appmanager. shut it down. The pic you posted shows it using over 20%...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hollwpoint:
Should I force close it or disable it? Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jack man:
Both. Force close, clear data, then disable.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hollwpoint:
OK. Will do. Will keep ya posted
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hollwpoint:
Not much difference

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Omg...duh..brain farther. Lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
Turn sync off and see if that stops the drain. If not then try turning off data. On stock and on wifi you should be at worse maybe 1% every 2 hours. Also check data usage to see what apps are pushing and pulling data during the first 2 hours.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
too bad greenify doesnt work the same without root..

i think it needs to have no lock screen and then has to wake the screen to hibernate the apps lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jack man:
I always forget this one, too... turn off "Enhanced 4g LTE services" under mobile data settings. It sucks down battery, too.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hollwpoint:
Yea. I hear ya ...kinda dumb huh? Hehe..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] kirewade:
Will this new Droid bootloader unlock come to our att note 4's?

http://theroot.ninja/disclosures/TRUSTNONE_1.0-11282015.pdf
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
New Super-Sume Pro v 9.2.6

So, I have update the application to now include the newest SuperSU v.2.52. I have also verified that all is working correctly with the newest KingRoot v4.2.6 as well. Now, keep in mind this, you should hard reboot your Note 4 from the power menu prior to trying to root with KingRoot v4.2.6. It will root successfully around 30% from my findings. If you do not hard reboot your device first, it will take a lot longer to root and maybe even fail.

Super-Sume Pro v 9.2.6 should be available on the Playstore shortly for download.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hollwpoint:
Um...this could brick it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
No. I have tested it many times, it is safe. I have also already received a review from a completely different device and it worked perfectly.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] stevenj05:
Does this work on 5.1.1?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] kirewade:
I don't think we have a root for 5.1 so it's probably only for the 4.4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
Has anyone tested on 5.01 ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] kirewade:
Wish I could help I'm on 5.1.1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hollwpoint:
Would be nice. .I'm running 5.1.1 too

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Do your guys notes make notify sounds while your screens are on? Mine doesn't.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jayochs:
is this trustnone thing legit? it targets the 805. i'm surprised more people aren't jumping on this..maybe they are behind the scenes, who knows, but it'll help get us moving forward on all our locked bootloaders.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] kirewade:
Yeah I asked jcase but he never replied.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
pretty sure jcase is aware of it seeing as how him and beaups work together..

hell, this might even be same beaups used for the S5?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] kirewade:
Yeah he replied and said that the trustzone bug would not unlock our bootloaders
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jayochs:
well that sucks.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] sycol65:
In almost two days It's going to be a year about the first reply that says "So far there is no progress so this thread will stay empty. If there is progress on the future then there will be a thread started in the development section I'm pretty sure." and now It's one of the most watched threads in this forum, but one way or the other it was true. No progress...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] longbeachyo:
I have faith!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] base_ten:
May happen at some point, not holding my breath. Trying to get my mitts on a TMO Note 4. ATT phones suck. ATT says I "own the phone, not the software" Sounds like a good reason to be able to remove it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spexwood:
Just a comment:

That's like saying I own my home, but not the electricity. So if someone comes up to my home and plugs in a bunch of equipment without my approval and they spike up my electricity bill, I can't do anything about it because I don't own my electricity? BS
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mik3di3s3l:
welcome to the wonderful world of piggybacking.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] base_ten:
ATT is too big for their trousers
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pattonsj:
So is verizon...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] bbeelzebub:
Just curious, has anybody tried the new Chainfire systemless root method on the AT&T Note 4?

More info here: http://www.xda-developers.com/update-to-snapprefs-xposed-module-includes-17-instagram-like-filters/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] miten_sheth:
So.. I happen to buy a note 4 from AT&T moving away from my HTC One.. And not going for note 5 coz for me removable battery and memory card are a big requirement and not having that in my HTC One made me choose the note 4..

Thinking how I would have a new device to play with and explore with root.. I happily come and view the forums and find that there is no root possible on 5.1.1..

Deeply saddened and now have to bear with the bloat and can't customize my phone.. Should have checked the forums before getting this one.. Waiting for a root to come so that not only me but all of us can play with this beast..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kyuta Syuko:
Looks like it needs to be installed via recovery, and unless Chainfire has worked some serious magic I doubt he has the keys that would allow our phones to flash it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tonyd371:
root without using system

http://www.xda-developers.com/update-to-snapprefs-xposed-module-includes-17-instagram-like-filters/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] webbie2:
I wonder if you can flash it to your device using ADB.... Like the gold old HTC's

I hope if this dose not work we are still getting somewhere.

either that or I need to pay off this phone and get a nexus.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kyuta Syuko:
It most likely won't work, but since you know more about flashing via ADB than I do why not try it out and report back?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DamnCampers:
After reading thru the support thread it looks like this will NOT work as it appears to need an unlocked bootloader as its very dependant on having a good working keneral and appears to make security policy changes. There are a single person that has chimed in with a note 4, but on a Canadian carrier, that has gotten it to work but if I remember correctly they have the N910W and not the N910A. Now for anyone that has the t-mobile note 4 this should work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] kirewade:
Correct will work for note 4 on unlocked bootloader so no att or.verizon
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jethro650:
Bell Canada at least is 910w. Probably the others are as well.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tonyd371:
was worth a try.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] XcceLL:
I was wondering if there was a root for the note 4. Not that I really need to though, it's a really good device less the last 4 forced att ota updates.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Phatboyj420:
Would it not be possible "If not in theory alone" to Temp root a KK imaged ATT Note4 then make a complete dd.image of mcblock0 for backup purposes then one would also want to take separate dd.images of the EFS partitions "to be used to personalize the phone later".

Now the big ?

Take a full mcblock0 dd.image of a Tmobile Note4 and dd if/of to our ATT Note then ddif/of our device specific efs partitions?

I've heard of this being done to make a reg carrier phone into a Dev phone but have always wondered if it would work for a cross carrier situation.

If I understand the process correctly , the locked bootloader is not a problem in this scenario because it is never triggered the only thing that is necessary is the Root privileges for the ADB interface Hence the need for the Temp Root Correct?

I am merely thinking out loud here so as to add to discussion, so if you don't have anything positive to add please don't add at all.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DroidHelp101:
Dm-verity (write protection) will prevent this from working, reason being DM Verity is checking the software and comparing it to stock software to see if there's any modifications, so far we cannot access that place it's checking, so any changes made to the system will be replaced by stock unmodified system.

That's my understanding anyways so far. I'm sure somebody smarter can chime in to verify....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JOSHSKORN:
Yes and no. If you aren't on Anroid 4.4.4, then no. If you're on Android 5.0.1, build BOAF or the AT&T equivalent, then you cannot flash back to 4.4.4.

To be honest, the root that's available on 4.4.4 isn't even worth it. Security on your phone will kill root access after an unspecified amount of time, or a reboot. AT&T and Verizon have done an amazing job of locking this phone down, which is unfortunate. Other carrier versions of the Note 4 are not locked like ours. Can you go get on another carrier, get that phone and bring it to AT&T or Verizon? I believe so, but will it work as well? I don't know. Will it automatically be as locked? No. Therefore, will root be solid? Probably. However, that's not the point of this thread. How many people have the time, money and effort to want to do all that when we've all invested in AT&T/Verizon units?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kamau54:
To be honest with you, I can't understand people still wanting this phone rooted. I personally gave up on that month's ago, and just learned to live without a permanent and reliable root. As you said, they did an excellent job of locking it down.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] galacticboy2009:
Journey, Man.

Don't stop believing. It's been quite a while, but it could still happen. Especially since this is the last Note with the easily removable battery and SD card slot.

I can't be the only one that places this phone over the Note 5 based solely upon those two features.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jayochs:
lol, def isn't happening. cmon guys. just accept the note for what it is, and buy something else if ya want root. it's just not happening.

Sent from my Moto X Pure Edition
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] edjahman:
Unfortunately the current offerings leave little to be desired and I do agree that we'll never see root regardless of what the overly optimistic people say.

Patiently waiting for newer devices.

Flashing roms and having root isn't so appealing on older technology that's going to be obsolete soon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] PepNYC:
Anyone know if there are any android phones on AT&T that the bootloader can be unlocked and be rooted?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spocko:
Any Nexus phone. Also, HTC used to provide an official unlock mechanism (htcdev) for many of their phones, not sure if that's still true.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
AFAIK only Verizon has blocked access to HTCDev.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jayochs:
moto x bootloader is unlockable and much like the nexus, is not carrier specific. at this point, best bets are to go with phones like this. screw the carriers.

Sent from my Moto X Pure Edition
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] swatty43:
Did you have the Note 4 prior to the Moto X Pure? If so how do you like it in comparison?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jayochs:
yep. honestly I love the note and i switch back and forth between them. moto x is nice and all, but the note is just so much more premium in general. if it had root, i would have never gotten the moto x.. but i got the x because i wanted atleast one phone with root.

Sent from my Moto X Pure Edition