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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] windstrings:
All the kings horses

And all the kings men

Couldn't find root

For the note 4 again! ?

I see this like the old days when pollution control choked the life out of performance in the older cars.

Now we have developed much more horsepower and efficiency.

While we would all rather have the performance boost of not having pollution control, we just out up with it realizing we really have all the horsepower we need plus so much more than the old days even with restrictions in place.

I havent checked this thread in months but I'm honestly surprised we are still stumped.

No biggy.... Those that have root with their other devices have bragging rights and more latitude to play, but unless you need that latitude it's a non issue.

It is what it is... If they find root now who cares, it's dang near time to upgrade to a better device making it a moot point.

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Agreed.

Now I play the Devils advocate...

Verizon wouldn't have to worry about locking if a few didn't mess it up for the many.

Let's look at this from another perspective.....

Why is mean Ole Verizon spending millions to torture and block us poor geeks that just want to have fun?

*A geek that knows what's he's doing can do a lot of damage to security.

War games is an old movie but that does come to mind as devices are now much more powerful.

With terrorism now in full play do we want our marvelous devices to be able to tweak our most sensitive defenses?

We all want our accounts private, #'s protected, conversations sealed away from public, and we expect and will sue Verizon if they fall down on the job.

But we also want them to allow free rein on their rooted phones so we have no limits.

Well if people were considerate of each other and didn't take malicious advantage we could without worry.

While it's true geeks will install software to protect against other geeks, the layperson "where the real money is at" lies vulnerable?

Every Tom, ****, and Harry app out there is wanting access to your soul, your habits, location, and # of times you go to the bathroom as it is?

They want to be able to access your cameras without knowledge and monitor your conversation if possible.

I guess another way to look at this.. While there are still many holes out there, maybe Verizon is the most "secure" network to be a part of?

If they were going to watch your back and best protect themselves, wouldn't preventing root be a first start??? ... Just saying...

Heck my mobile Bank app accesses my account much easier than doing the same from my laptop.

Do I want some malicious app having full access to my affairs?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] howellcp:
Dafaq does any of this have to do with root progress.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] edjahman:
There won't be any root progress lol. Might as well chat it up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] bselesnew:
No

This is exactly why we have all this **** posting in this thread because people like you don't want to stay on topic.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Odischeese:
There's no hope. Give up on root progress... he's right. Might as well "chat it up"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kamau54:
There is no topic to stay on, and personally I don't see why these root threads are not closed by now. Root is just not gonna happen for this phone on AT&T. It is a dead issue.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] chrisctb:
Just move to a different thread nerds. People still want to hold out hope for root lol, not read your nonsense
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Galaxy*$4:
thats what i am hoping for as well i been using it on my s4 and love it, i dont have the phone yet but maybe next month.

is the edge better then the note 4? you can pm me or something.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
The Note 4 is better than the edge that is a fact plus Note 4 battery is bigger and better battery life the edge is just a remake of the Note 4.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] MrPlNK:
What's so fact about the note 4 being better than the edge

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Your 200mah more than us?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
He asked i am being honest on what is the true I'll leave it at that.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] MrPlNK:
No go on, sorry for being off topic but I'm curious how the same phone is better than the other when they have same specs minus battery, which I've tested and note 4 batteries work for the edge so...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] greekunit690:
Only thing I can think of is the note 4 having more development than the edge which may bring it to be slightly bettet

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Galaxy*$4:
thanks i am just trying to figure out if its worth the extra 100$ and would an otterbox defender work for it?

in ways yes, but trying to figure out if its worth the extra 100. (havent messed with one yet will soon though.)

not to get off topic and not for discussion

note 4

note 4 edge

iphone 6+

maybe more?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] fix-this!:
and at&t cant wait to patch it again with lollipop.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] MrPlNK:
Oh ya with all this sweet root and bootloader unlock action were seeing.... WHAT DEVELOPMENT LOL
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Martinjv71:
The note 4 is not better than the edge. Yes there is a bigger battery but the phone itself is not better. And it's not a remake of the note 4. The note 4 is a dummied down version. Same old technology as any smart phone you can pick up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
Ok last time being off topic and i do Apologies for being off topic on this thread , What i ment as in better is the protection on falling and battery and accessories has more stuff for the Note 4 Then The Edge, Yes basically they are both the same phone, This is what happens when i try replying on Tapatalk lol and don't have time to explain better, But most will go with the Original Note 4 i tryed both i was more comfortable on The Note 4 Then the Edge Plus don't think it's worth paying that 100.00 for it Note 4 Has Multi-Window Which is Basically to me better than having those icons on the corner Edge!

Anyway Back To Topic As for root i do believe we will have it we just need to be Patient, I Develop Roms and as for now i consider the Way the Note 4 is right Now Magnificent without Root, But I am sure we will have Root all we need is Faith!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] iamdeon23:
I just honestly think with Android 5.0 so close to being released that the developers are waiting for that to really dig in to this device. With the exploit already exposed in Lollipop it'll be easier to root and an easy way for developers to earn the bounty that much easier! Makes sense to me...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] imnoob55:
The way I understand it is to do these sort of rooting we'll need to likely spoof the digital signature AT&T uses to 'sign' their roms and bootloader, correct? To me this seems like a very hard thing to perform if not somewhat impossible. The other alternative would be exploiting the linux bootloader via some exploit that hasn't yet been patched -- also likely not an easy thing to perform as these sort of exploits are scarce these days but maybe some developers are holding this in their back pocket, like mentioned above, and will use it after a major release so it isn't patched immediately.

Another way, and this is likely very farfetched, but in my experience of working on hardware normally there's an exposed interface or discrete pin on the uP board itself that permits writing to the write-protected memory that is holding the bootloader (normally SPI flash is where the image is held). Likely not a fun thing to exploit and for production boards it might not even be capable but that's how I would guess they do initial factory loads of the bootloader. What this also means is that any conventional way, non-intrusive, to exploit the bootloader would likely only be capable of doing-so in RAM and thus once the device resets it would revert back to original by re-loading the original image (which is digitally signed as well) from SPI flash back into RAM.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Reinaldo33897:
I think since chainfire was able to exploit 5.0 for rooting we may have to wait for upgrade for root to happen. Devs may not be wasting their time on trying to crack 4.4.4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mircury:
To clear a few thing up, Chainfire hasn't found an exploit for 5.0. He found a way for his SuperSU to work with SELinux once you gain root on a 5.0 device or are able to flash something with an unlocked bootloader. So in other words, you have to have an unlocked bootloader or a root exploit in 5.0 before Chainfire's stuff will work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Reinaldo33897:
DELETED

Please no replies to my comment and let's not take this thread off course.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] rcanderson232:
mircury corrects your misconception so that makes him Mr. Negative? Ignorant optimism isn't helpful either.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Orito:
How about this then... Most likely, any exploits that have been revealed prior to the upgrade coming down for the Note 4 will likely have been patched. Samsung is notorious for patching exploits before release.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Conkrete:
[Cuts a piece of steak and holds it in front of him] You know, I know this steak doesn't exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious. After nine years, you know what I realize? [Eats the piece of steak and sighs contently] Ignorance is bliss.

Root should be here any minute now...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mircury:
Not trying to be negative. I'm actually trying to keep people ON track here with correct technical information and what info they should be looking for to gain root. Look at my past posts in this thread. So ya, sorry for trying to help. :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] whmgreen:
Anything is better than nothing at this point. How many years can you hold out hope for something? I'm still waiting on my real hover board and jet pack!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] shadowtuy:
I have a "Hover board" at my store for 499.99. XD
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kamau54:
Personally, I just dropped by. I prefer not to waste my time in wishing & hoping for things. And by the way, if by some miracle they do get root, do you actually think anyone is gonna develop roms? Most of the recognized devs have long moved on.

Tell you what, keep on hoping, and stick around waiting. I'll let you know how the Note 12 is doing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] PhonePhan:
I agree, are we allowed to request to request a thread close?

I've been doing my best as well as probably thousands of others, to stay quite and constantly be let down every time this thread post count goes up. Just to find out its just random chatter, mostly unrealistic people still thinking root is happening and others saying it wont. We already see what a full root can look like with temp root. Even if Root DID happen, guess what the boot loader is still locked and will always be locked so no ROMs will see this phone. Literally this is a pointless "issue". Bounty? Please the people that committed probably forgot about the issues by now or already got the Tmobile N4. Also for future reference, lets just all learn from this and purchase unlocked or Nexus phones if you really want root and ROMs. At&t isn't going to listen to %1 of users petition on a developers forum they'll probably never even see, so please stop that. Can this please be closed and any other root related thread so we can all move on? Thanks

-Highly annoyed user
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] webbie2:
I second this. We should bring this thread down until root is achieved. I'm really surprised that the Note 4 is unable to be rooted.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nh97103:
Actually, there's a way around the bootloader being locked that I can't remember the name of, but it would allow us to put ROMs on the Note 4. However, we need permanent root first for it to be of use. It was talked about a long while ago.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Jmelendez1:
Please close thread. AT&T has rendered Samsung Galaxy Note 4 to be unrootable. Period. Thank you and Happy New Year.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] edjahman:
Word!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nemopsp:
All you guys give up to easy, as the old saying goes if there is a will, there is a way...

But honestly on xda just the right developers are not lookin at the note 4, cause the people who has the knowledge, don't mess with locked bootloaders anymore...

Everything is hackable... the ps4 just got hacked.

This phone I believe will b permanent rooted, but yes no one will care cause many will have moved on... just as many have already.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Rashawn229:
I'll post this here hopefullyhttps://threatpost.com/serious-linux-kernel-vulnerability-patched/115923/ somebody can root this
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] raynan:
Just have to be careful where the root exploit comes from...If it comes from anywhere.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Android.Ninja:
I'm gonna have a good XDA kernel developer take a look at this. Thanks.

Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!

If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
I wonder if [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] can comment on this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Android.Ninja:
That's who I'm looking for too. ?

jcase is Einstein when it comes to Linux security!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Surge1223:
you guys can compile it and try it you want already

Makefile

TOOLCHAIN=/opt/androideabi/bin/arm-linux-androideabi-
LD= $(TOOLCHAIN)gcc
CXX=$(TOOLCHAIN)$(CC)
CC=$(TOOLCHAIN)gcc
CFLAGS += -Wall -O2 -fPIC
LDFLAGS += -static -L.

SRCS=cve_2016_0728.c msgget.c msgsnd.c libkeyutils.a
all: cve_2016_0728

cve_2016_0728:
$(CC) $(CFLAGS) $(LDFLAGS) $(SRCS) -o $@

surge@cheekydevs ~/Downloads/keyutils-v1.3 $ adb push cve_2016_0728 /data/local/tmp
487 KB/s (1583836 bytes in 3.172s)
surge@cheekydevs ~/Downloads/keyutils-v1.3 $ adb shell
root@angler:/ # cd /data/local/tmp
root@angler:/data/local/tmp # ./cve_2016_0728
usage: ./keys <key_name>
1|root@angler:/data/local/tmp #
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Surge1223:
If I had to guess he would probs say not many new devices are vulnerable since the kernel doesn't use msgget syscall or export it in a vulnerable way by default on 3.9+ kernels and selinux doesn't allow access to the key items by default in sepolicy. Although that doesn't mean this method cannot be used, there are other ways to potentially leverage the exploit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] raynan:
Hey, this is a new hope to breathe new life into this device, let's keep it positive :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] eklipz3:
Google is planning on having a patch ready by March
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] RocknSteve:
The good news is that Samsung and Verizon will take ages to release an update including the patch.

For once their slowness could be helpful.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] richterman235:
just work on 1 android version and stay with one vertsion, it sounds like ya'll keep trying to work on the latest android version for note 4 sm-n910a, work on 1 version only that's an issue, and that work around the fuking bootloader or try to disguise it and make the phone think its updating from the server, try to modify it, u'll hae to like make a special version of root for this phone instead of adding files modify existing files

special type of root can't put the existing forms the bootloader detects that, so code an official android version and hide the root in it,

Now the bootloader, (read a lot of post where they gave up can't find anything much on it on here but on other sites they gave up) the right people need to be on it obviously there's no progress on it either work it or drop it and go around it

I have no ability to code as I don't have the patience but I know for a fact this is definitely possible if the rite people worked on it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
what?

anything is possible.. you cant however flash a modified rom without unlocking the BL. Which Im sure many have tried and or are trying to break as we speak.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Rashawn229:
Yep he commented on my twitter post that I tagged him in
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] RocknSteve:
Who is "he" and what was your Twitter post about?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nemopsp:
He is [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION]

But honestly from his post it sounds like the exploit is just another dead end.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Samsung8600:
Hello everyone. .i bought note 4 at&t and i live in country that none of their services is available so all of those apps is desabled . I have 5.0.1 and it won't update on it's own. Is there anything i can do???
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] vsn4:
Use Samsung kies
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Samsung8600:
I have kies ver.3.2.15072_2 and it won't give me update option it says

Current firmware version: PDA: OC4 / PHONE: OC4 / CSC: OC4 (ATT)

What should i do?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spexwood:
Use the search function on XDA because your problem has been answered hundreds of times.

Plus, your post doesn't belong in this thread.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Samsung8600:
Ok sorry
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] rstanford2:
Just adding my phone info for tracking

I just got my AT&T Note 4 SM-N910A. I can't wait for someone to crack this guy so that I can root and install TWRP for starters.

Android Version 5.1.1

Base Version N910AUCU2DOI2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nemopsp:
TWRP will never happen xD never on a locked bootloader.

If we are ever lucky a root with multi system roms but the roms will only be TouchWiz.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] frosty374:
just got note 4, coming from htc one m7 on AOKP....touchwiz is so bad it makes my heart hurt. Please someone, HELP!!! :crying:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] edjahman:
6p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Jbreez216:
Just got my hands on the At&t Samsung Galaxy Note 4 SM-N910A Running 4.4.4 KitKat, and I did not know that there was not a Root Platform for this Device. OMG what a waste of money now I have to sale it and go back to Tmobile Note 4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
thats why you research before you buy something like that lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] thepianoman77:
Wow it's been a while. Sad to see there's still no root. Oh well. I hope our devs are focusing on more important things. RIP samsung for me at least on verizon. I get discounts so I don't think I'll be switching service. Thanks to all who tried hard at cracking this $#!+.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] vmatt:
We all learned a hell of a lesson, I'm bending over and grabbing my ankles.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Android.Ninja:
Don't give up quite yet. My team is still researching viable methods of achieving a permanent root solution. ?

lol, AT&T & Big Red is gonna be grabbing their ankles when we discover a permanent root solution / possible unlock for a TON of Samsung Galaxy Note 4 users!

Never give up, never quit! We're still hunting down every avenue imaginable.

Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!

If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
Please don't start this again. The last time it caused quite an amount of drama. If you have some honest and earnest progress to report then report it. Show something to people rather than leading them on with glimmers of hope like this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] wolfy287:
Can you guys boot twrp? Like on the amazon fire
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] bobloblaw1:
Why would you even ask that and how is a fire relevant here? :(

It's a locked encrypted bootloader device. Thanks for the effort, but have you read anything about the situation?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] rockironwebb:
I am unfortunate enough to have att note 4,, After using a rooted note 2 for a few years, the unrooted note 4 feels like i've taken a major tech step back.

My question is this.

I am ready and willing to get a new device(phablet)

I am also prepared to leave att

what is the best rootable phablet and would i be advised to leave att?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
Just get a Nexus 6P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] rockironwebb:
Thanks for the tip,,any other suggestions? G5?

is the rooting issue specific to samsung/att? I suppose I've read verizon had the issues as well
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
Samsung and LG is locked down for both those carriers, HTC Verizon is locked. For latest updates and root get the 5X or 6P Nexus.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spexwood:
T-mobile Note 4 or an International model with the proper bands for your carrier.

Nexus 6P

LG G5 or G5 Note.

LG V10

Changing carrier really only depends on what has best coverage for your area and what can give you the best price for a plan that suits your needs. IMO anyway. You can always used an unlocked phone on any carrier as long as the phone has the proper bands.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] rockironwebb:
Thanks for the help,,I live in a metro area so most carriers will meet my needs,,I was trying to stay current with all of the details on phone/carriers/locked/unlocked and what not,,been working terribly long hours so my brain has become mush.

I consider the v10 also,,IMO with root and proper rom,,a phone regarded by most as substandard can become a killer device. again,,Thanks for the help. I will try and stay informed leading up to my next purchase,,it will all depend on my brain mush.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] James.Markham0757:
This sucks I just bought this phone. I upgraded from the Att Galaxy S5 which is Rooted and find out I can't on this phone. MY S5 with Root battery last much longer than this phone :/ I would have bought a T-Mobile Unlocked if I had looked into this before hand
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
yup.. shoulda researched before hand as is advised to do at any point in time..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] James.Markham0757:
Yea I'll be on top of that for now on. I bought this second hand so when the note 6 drops later this year I'll probably change out anyway and I always wait a few months into the phones life anyway so I'll be able to check up on root for whatever device at the time
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dannydav709:
Do you think if you find a permanent root method it may work on 5.1.1 lollipop?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
Nope.. the root isnt available for Samsung devices on 5.1.1 that have locked BLs on vzw att..

Theyd need to find root for 5.1 first then youd still have write protection.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] James.Markham0757:
Maybe something will come up on marshmallow. Although all the devs may be gone at that point if they're not already :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nuwayman:
I got last years nexus 6 to hold me over for root and flashing. While the note 4 sits in my drawer waiting patiently for a miracle. Didn't want to spend the money on the new nexus line. I'm really enjoying the nexus 6.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Gods Son:
? This at&t rep was trying to get me to upgrade to another Samsung phone and my reply was after I laughed hard for a few seconds in front of other customers was are you crazy? I told him that in not your typical at&t customer because I would never again buy another phone from you all! There is no freedom as all of your android phones have locked bootloaders and I know you think you know what that is but since you work for at&t I definitely know you don't. That guys face and some of the customers was lit up and the funny thing is that he didn't know anything about locked bootloaders. The CEO of at&t must love being a rich ass punk and a ****. The note 4 at&t variant will never get rooted or bootloader unlocked so it can really shine. Here's hoping for T-Mobile to taking down at&t plus T-Mobile's phone are better. Sometime this weekend switching over to them.

Oh yeah please shut this thread down as it has no purpose.