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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Ciloteille:
I figure people would have investigated this route already. Gives you a chance to trial and error without killing your phone every 5 minutes.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] NattMixon:
I would think so as well but after reading through this thread I didn't see any mention of it. Then again I just got this phone and haven't thoroughly researched everything yet (should have done that before purchase).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spexwood:
I've been following this thread since it's creation and reading every post, every repeated question, and every flame war (until cleaned up by the mods). That said, this method has never been mentioned, but it doesn't mean that it wasn't explored. If it was, no one mentioned it here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Chief.:
Soooo I am assuming there is no root yet for note 4 5.0.1? I just joined today and there is no way I am going to read hundreds of pages of posts lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Puppy69us:
Use the search function next time, It'll narrow questions down fairly quick. The answer to your question unfortunately is no. Hopefully soon we will have something.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JOSHSKORN:
I'll make it easy on you. Go to Settings>About Phone and report back with your BUILD NUMBER.

To root, you have to rollback to 4.4.4, and it's only temporary due to write protection. There is a certain build number for 5.0.1, and if you took that particular update, you cannot rollback, thus temp root.

Before you ask, different carriers of the same phone have different update schedules. Yes, there are permanent solutions on 4.4.4 and maybe even 5.0.1, but those have been patched on the AT&T/Verizon variants. They also do not have the same write protections.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] slothdabski:
Am I able to downgrade from N910AUCU2COC5?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
typically the OFx builds you cannot downgrade but let some others confirm lol

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] coldcrush390:
I've sold my Note 4. Last time im ever buying an ATT bootlocked phone or any bootlocked phone for that matter. Just wanna say goodluck to all and hopefully you will see root soon. Peace!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] eklipz3:
It's still a good phone rooted or not, anyway bye see yah so long

Sent from my SM-N910V
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jinx10000:
I am pretty sure COC4 was the last version that was able to be downgraded.

Edit:

Read more here.

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-att/general/att-update-t3163628
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ThePublisher:
I second your "I am pretty sure". I have stayed on COC4 just in case. No interest in temp root, but if/when we get perma I want to be ready.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Puppy69us:
Have we gotten anywhere with this? Has this route been explored?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ThePublisher:
With the Note 5 not being a true 'power user' phone, I'm going to be hanging onto this sweet Note 4 for a while. If we can get full/permanent root it will be the perfect device. Come on Devs, you can do this!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] borijess:
I would love permanent root but I don't see it happening. I believe the devs that are working on it will move on to newer phones. I hope I am wrong:o
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] heXacode:
I'm not moving onto the Note 5 or any other phones. I'll still be working on this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mik3di3s3l:
https://youtu.be/75DKAGNstbM

has this been performed? even though it's an s4 mini, the concept is still there..

I might be trying this method out later this evening when I get home from work. In the meantime, someone please tell me this wont work. u know, so I don't fubar this device.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] a40dayflud818:
You do not realize just how much I needed to see this. I had the same concern. I know all the devs have put in an outrageous amount of work, time and effort into the root project. Thank you for being steadfast. =)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
unfortunately removing knox isnt the issue.. its wp which to my knowledge is kernel/BL related

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jkleenote4:
The reasons I would want to root my Note 4 would be Viper4Android, disabling the annoying automatic update, removing the carrier ID that's at the top left corner of the screen, and increasing volume steps (because 15 volume steps is absurdly too little). Other than that, what things will you guys do with your Note with root? My Note 4 is my first ever Android device (switched from iOS) so I'm not too familiar with the advantages from rooting. :P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] eklipz3:
Q&A section or off topic waiting room is what I would do.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yamaha_wins:
I'm pretty sure most of that you can do already.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gcodori:
I have removed Knox and the updates using the debloater app. Simple one click and reversable.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hilokilo:
Is this available for lollipop? Can you share the app please?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ksoze:
I believe the app he is referring to is Gatesjunior's Debloater app: http://xdaforums.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294

Requires a Windows or Mac computer + USB + ADB Debugging enabled.

As for Lollipop Compatibility, the new Android update changed the way the command works - so the most you can do without root - is to hide the app - you can only disable the app if you have rooted the phone.

Only Kitkat allows you to disable the app without root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
Technically KK is block, but you are correct.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gcodori:
You can't remove it but you can disable it. Even the update part of settings is gone. I'm on lollipop.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] benzs129:
Got note 4 today hope to use it with t-mobile. Anybody here has any problem with 4g lte?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
This is not the thread for this. Please ask your question in Q&A.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] lightfire228:
I've been reading about the BL and how it checks for software signed by AT&T and such, and I have a question. Once you obtain a root/custom rom, is it possible to downgrade to another custom rom of a previous version? Like if the root and unlocked boot loader were obtained for AT&T 5.0.1, would it be possible to flash 4.4.4 rooted back onto the device since it is no longer checking for signatures and valid updates?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yamaha_wins:
If your rooted and managed to unlock the bootloader on lollipop why would you wanna downgrade?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mik3di3s3l:
would an sgs3 att bl work?

by going off of lightfires post, say cloning an unlocked bootloader from previous att samsung device? is it possible? or are there specific driversignings for the N4 vs. other mobiles? sry for the ?'s my coffee brain is peaking!!! ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
no. the bl is device specific and if u did somehow manage to do that youd potentially hard brick your device.. im pretty sure it will recognize this and prevent it altogether..

if you did have an unlocked BL, you should have no issues downgrading to my knowledge since u could flash older BLs

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] lightfire228:
So once you unlock a BL, you can put whatever software in place of the kernel/OS you want, regardless whether it will actually run or not?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
an unlocked BL will typically allow you to use custom kernels/recovery which in turn allow you to have more control as well as aosp roms etc.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
It seems some of the newest security updates now prevent downgrading on Sprint and T-Mobile even with the unlocked bootloader.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mik3di3s3l:
thank u for the response. I love troubleshooting, so forgive me if I come out with some random thoughts like I did. there just has to be an easy way. somehow....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
its been a while since i had a unlocked BL lol.

that suck but then again you can typically trip knox and root with an unlocked BL on newer firmwares correct?

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jenkem110:
Cool story bro.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] v3ngence:
I know I will never sell my Note 4, it's just too beautiful...

Really the main thing I would do with root is use ad block's built in function, using a proxy is so slow and laggy.

It's a shame we have to decide between fast internet with ad's or slow with ad's blocked, some ads actually slow the page loading more than the proxy would...

But internet is fast enough that it's usually just a second or two extra, IMO not worth losing the epic screen and camera of the N4 :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mkeric1:
i sold my note 4 and got gs 6 cause of root installed a rom and after a month realized how much better note 4 is even with no root sold gs6 and got me an att note edge no root but still 100 times better than any other phone no love for note 5 here its just a blown up gs6 with an s pen Do not sell your notes people you will regret it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] scottjoshuac:
So I'm switching to the LG G4 today, I'm keeping my Note 4 though. The camera is cracked and the G4 just looks like a good upgrade. I'm willing to try some root methods that have been otherwise untested due to device bricking since I'm keeping the Note 4 as a spare. If anyone wants me to try anything let me know.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ccallen:
downgrade

I bought my sm-n910a a little over a week ago and was immediately able to downgrade to 4.4.4. . . used kingroot and have the temp root....every once and a while while playing with root setting a reboot will occur and come up with the bootloader screen and at the bottom is a lock opened and custom underneath. doesnt happen every time. anyone know what this means if anything?[IMG="the bootloader screen"]https://goo.gl/photos/YMKtPMquju2wkmSn9[/IMG]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
its means you rooted your device lol. does that on most to all samsung devices after root.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ccallen:
but the root goes away the second the reboot happens. still supposed to be a locked bootloader and all that correct? still very inexperienced with the finer points
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mik3di3s3l:
+1 same thing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
You cannot have permanent root on the Note 4 no matter what carrier, due to write protection.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
it will stay just showing modifications were done.. not sure with note 4 on wp but on my s6e i need to odin full stock tar and reboot few times for it to not say custom..

also, the lock with custom does not mean in any way the BL is unlocked as simply rooting will cause it to show custom.. it doesnt really do much at all to be honest except that you modified something on the device whether it be temprary or not

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
On Sprint and T-Mobile you would be able to flash ROMs based on older firmware but you cannot odin back. Once you take the latest update you have to keep that bootloader and modem combo.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
Oh, I see, they're asking about the custom logo that shows up on boot. That will in fact go away once stock on the system partition.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
It is just me, or is that a new Spider Man from what you had before ? Are you trying to pull a fast one on us ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
ahh, the good ole sprint days lol. if my service wasnt terrible id still have em lol

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
O.k., so I am working on something that could very well give us more perm root

So, I think I have figured out a way to maintain perm root as long as the device is not "hard" rebooted, that would at least be better than root disappearing on its own or reboots happening. This would / should also prevent random reboots as well.

It might take me a day or two to put this together, but I am hopeful.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
hard reboot as in completely power phone off and turn back on?

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
Well, no, meaning if you reboot from the power menu. A soft-reboot will still work and the random reboots on its own I think will stop. So in other words, once you are rooted as long as you do not reboot from the power menu or adb, it should maintain root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
would def make your guys life easier!

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nemopsp:
This is wonderful news :) yea it's not full permanent but it's alot better then losing root have the matter of min to few hours.

My question would this b update with Super-SUme Pro? Or something else?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
No, this would be my own creation. Well as far as Super-Sume Pro, maybe I could work it into that as well.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] swatty43:
Hey Gates,

Would this new method allow us to change system files as well or are we still SOL due to the verity check?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
As long as you do not reboot it, I believe it should maintain root. As far as the system files being restored, have you seen this while the phone is up and running without a reboot, because I have only noticed them being restored upon a reboot.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] swatty43:
Yea it was after the phone rebooted.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
Well, this should prevent that from happening on its own.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] swatty43:
You're the man!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
Well, lets not count our eggs before they are hatched, but I think this will work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] swatty43:
Touché
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nh97103:
Does it trip Knox? Also, thank you for your continued efforts.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kyuta Syuko:
Could have gotten an unlocked T-mobile Note 4. Lots of people doing that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ZPaul2Fresh8:
Actually this exploit looks to be the most promising (In my opinion).

https://nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2014-9322. (Update, looks to be a vulnerability in 64-bit only)

The first one listed in the above quotations (CVE-2014-3153) Would achieve the same results but I'm not sure if it's easier than the one just discovered on 12/17. (Update: Our kernel version(3.10.x) is newer than the one mentioned in this exploit (3.8.x) So I doubt this hasn't been addressed already.)

Root will come soon enough. But I fear when 5.0+ comes to our device it will be even more difficult to achieve.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] holywhitebread:
Chainfire has already found a way for 5.0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ZPaul2Fresh8:
His method is for unlocked boot loaders only if I'm not mistaken.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kyuta Syuko:
It's not that Chainfire found a method to root but that he found a way for SuperSU to give apps root access without the need of a modified kernel when you are rooted. Still need a method to root that doesn't require a custom recovery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] deeken:
Guys,

Rather than waiting around to root to happen for this phone why not just move to another carrier such as Sprint or Tmobile and not have to deal with this waiting around game? The odds are that this phone will not be rooted for a while. Just look how long it took the note 3 to get rooted. Maybe it will get root sooner maybe it won't. Who knows. There are too many things that I do that require root. I don't have the time or patience to wait around for root to happen.

I've been with AT&T for almost 18 years (since 1997) and for the most part I've been fairly pleased with their service and their phone selection. But that was before they started locking the boot loaders for the Note 3-4. Whatever their reason for doing it is not my concern. I know that I want a new phone and I want to be able to root it. So I made the drastic decision to go with a different carrier. I've gone with Sprint. They offered me a ridiculously cheap package with unlimited everything for two lines. What my bill will be now is going to be less than when I had AT&T and I will have two new phones that I can root and not have to play this waiting game for.

I'm already aware that the new carrier is not going to be as good as AT&T but for me it was worth it. I've already accepted the fact that it's going to be a bumpy road so anything close to AT&T service will exceed my expectations. I did not want to give this company (AT&T) any more money if they felt that they could lock down these phones and nothing was going to come of it. This was my way of say FU to AT&T. You want to lock down the boot loaders then you will lose my business. I know the day will come that every carrier will lock down their phones but for now we have options. Until that happens I'm giving my business to someone that won't lock down the phone.

The other carriers would love your business and would be willing to buy out your contract. Why aren't more people willing to make the switch? I say screw AT&T and when they ask me why I left I'll tell them exactly why. Anyways, good luck to all of you guys.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] windstrings:
True, first download the app "opensignal" and see how good the coverage is for your particular carrier your choosing for your area.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] squareatom:
Or go the Tmobile phone on at&t route. Sprint and Tmobile are way too horible in my area.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DJsCrIBbLe:
+1 you should of just went with a tmo note 4 vs give up better coverage for sprints pathetic service. In my area they're 4g/LTE has always been slower than my at throttled lol. That's bad!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] deeken:
I would have preferred Tmobile but their quote was just too high. Sprint has this cut your bill in half plan and offered me a quote I couldn't pass up. I'm in NY metro Area and their coverage is "supposedly" good according to their coverage map. I've already heard the nightmare stories about Sprint so I'm expecting the worst. I'll give them a week. If its unbearably bad I'll contact Tmobile and see if they are willing to give me a better quote.

I was considering getting the Tmobile variant and using it on the AT&T network but I don't have $750+ to dish out. Besides why should I give AT&T any more money when they aren't giving me the phone I want?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] windstrings:
Freeze the TV screen and Read the fine print on that cut in half plan. They throttle your bandwidth.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Simsron1:
Look guys, this is the AT&T thread, not the t-mobile, Sprint, Verizon, other carriers forum. This thread is for discussing AT&T exploits. Not all of us can switch to these different phones, and not all of us want to. If you have switched phones, or switch carriers this forum is no longer for you. I know that I remain hopeful that it will be rooted, like another gentleman said if man made it man can break it down. Now, once again I say keep this forum positive, that's what it is for.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] b3asty:
Can we get this thread back on track please??? No one monitoring this thread cares about the Tmobile on ATT option....

Geez.

Talk about beating a dead horse...

Congrats to you for doing so. No one here cares.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JGuinan007:
The reason is because AT&T locked the Bootloader so well on the note 3 no Dev will bother developing for Note 4 AT&T version they get the Tmo version or International
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Martinjv71:
This has nothing to do with root. Post somewhere else and don't ruin thread.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] blkghost22:
Nice one douchebag. That post was a while back and i know how to search... so there after i didnt post it again. So if your saying go back to the subject subject and its not about root then you shouldnt have brought this back up.

And now~...! going back to subject. When lollipop comes and chainfire (sorry if i got the name wrong) would the carriers find another way to patch it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] sireniankyle:
This. There is about 1% chance that devs will do anything. You've known the entire time what you signed up for (a device without root).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DroidHelp101:
Ooops, wrong thread....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DroidHelp101:
Would this help us at all?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
No, it should not.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
lol.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] XVIravenIVX:
Curiosity does anyone know of a site that has all current vulnerabilities listed just on the note 4 or of an app that can check for a broader list then just the stage fright vulnerabilities?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Surge1223:
Gonna recompile the reboot binary and edit the reboot commands to something else? Let me know I have the reboot binary in standalone jni compilable form so I don't have to rely on AOSP source to build. I can git it if needed
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] borijess:
All we need is root on 5.0.1. One can wish:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JOSHSKORN:
I actually would love an All-in-One tool if possible, [MENTION=3178012]gatesjunior[/MENTION]. That is, one tool with options to:

Disable KNOX & OTA ONLY (kinda like what you can do with Debloater if you know the package names and are willing to use the search feature for them)

Do what SuperSUMe does

Apply the fix that you're currently eluding to that prevents restarts or losing root.

I'd even pay for a tool that does all that, combined, if that's possible. Granted, "debloating" requires a PC, not sure if it can be done just on the phone or not, or I haven't seen an app that can do that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] WuchuHurD:
Just my luck. I can't revert back to KK anymore since I'm updated to C6 lol :/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mik3di3s3l:
are the reboots more repetitive on Lp vs. KK? I'm on 4.4 and I usually keep root for 3 days before I eff w/ something in the system files, then it forces to reboot. I'm thinking of getting a logcat to see which process is acting a fool. that is, if it saves. none of my settings stay the same when this dreaded reboot happens. then it's back to clearing data and starting from scratch again...

since I have some time on my hands today, I'm going to look through this 4.4 rom...the BL is definitely the culprit in this pickle..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
I don't think you will see anything since it is kernel based..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mik3di3s3l:
the price is right fail tune just rang in my head after reading that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ODSTZ3RO:
why would there be reboots on LP when there isn't root for the note 4 on the at&t variant !!?!?!?! Are you talking about some sort of bug or should I go kms . Forgive my ignorance?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
This is for rooted Kitkat variants.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mik3di3s3l:
I'm just asking and giving my experience on KK. I don't want to update to LP if I don't have to.

there is temp root and the method I've been using is King root 4.5 and Supersume 6.7, update supersu binaries, install Simple reboot, grant permish, now u can soft reboot w/o a hard reboot.

I've also been using ti-backup to freeze the garbage that is unnecessary. so far, it's been 1day 5hrs on battery..