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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tekjester:
That's beyond the realm of reason. FYI, T-Mobile's private key wasn't compromised, a engineering BL was leaked. That means a SIGNED bootloader was put out that allowed the execution of unsigned code. Far more likely than what you're talking about. Private keys are:

1. Encrypted. Meaning only the computer that generated the private key can actually view it.

2. Stored offline. Typically, private keys are stored in an airgapped network. This prevents malicious attackers from gaining control of the PC.

3. Incredibly long. As in 2048 random characters. No one is going to open the file and be able to remember it.

4. Easily regenerated. In the case of SSL, a certificate can be revoked and marked void in a matter of minutes. In our case (a bootloader). The carrier would increment the bootloader, and invalidate the old private key. All future phones would have the new bootloader. Basically, you won't be able to downgrade, and only a few phones could get it.

Bottom line - Private keys are incredibly secure with very little payout. Nobody, especially people with access to the private key, are going to give it out to the public.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Viryllo:
I'm going of topic, just to share with everyone:

Read an article today saying that Samsung is going to integrate BES12 software (used in bb devices) into KNOX to add even greater security for phones.

Does this mean its going to get harder then it already is to obtain root?

Source of article is Android Headlines
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
who cares lol. it hasnt happened yet lol thats my opinion.. one thing at a time lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] butchieboy:
Nice to see a response without bashing..my hat off to you sir

Galaxy Mega..(MegakatV30)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] alpastor:
I just don't want to brick it.

Hi to all on this thread I just got a used note4 and it is possibly unlocked.

I have read that you should be able to root it and put on a custom recovery

and then I found this thread and it looks like I am SOL!!

So, can I root it or not? I am at page 56 and dont know where to look now.

I figure if you can't find the right answer on XDA then it is not out there.

I have messed up my share of phones, enough to know to do your home work first.

thank you for your time.:)

I am including my phone, the facts and a screen shot of the download mode screen wen it goes in recovery as well.

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Manufacturer samsung SM-N910 (trlteuc)

Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 - 2.65 GHz

Board APQ8084

Android Version 5.0.1

Bild ID LRX22C.N910AUCU1COC4

Kernel Version 3.10.40-4160876 (N910AUCU1 COC4)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Xak:
Your screen says its an SM-N910A ATT not rootable.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JOSHSKORN:
I can't speak for your phone exactly, but remove the back cover and look at the model number, then post back. I think it should have something like SMN910 in it. I don't know how AT&T works, but for Verizon, there are two different model numbers, one is for Retail and the other is for the Developer Edition.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] graydiggy:
The image he posted already States that it's the AT&T variant.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] eklipz3:
Looks retail

Sent from my SM-N910V
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Reinaldo33897:
As mentioned before the phone says sm910a that is an at&t phone. Currently there is no permanent root for it. There is a temp called kingroot but if you boot phone or it bots itself you lose root. Plus it's an root that many do not trust.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] warriorpluto:
Same ole same ole over and over. Round and round we go lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] scottjoshuac:
Since there are hundreds of pages on here, can we just have the current status on the first page? It would filter out a lot of unnecessary posts.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
The OP isnt a dev so he only knows whats posted here and elsewhere by people/devs and im not sure how active op is but theres really no profress for perma root and WP to post imo..

the thread title should also be changed to something regarding WP since root "technically" was already achieved
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] alpastor:
I am a newbie of newbie's

Yes it is an SM-N910A ATT I tried so hard to get all my facts straight I don't

do much online sorry.

I am a newbie of newbie's and it may sound corny but I am just thrilled when someone responds to my questions.

I have tried to get toweroot and found the web site but couldn't get it to download, which is probably better any way by the way it sounds.

I kind of figured I was out of luck as far as root but this is the first

phone I have had in years that I could not use and most of the things I like to use as far as apps the phone needs to be rooted, and it sounds like I am not alone.

I wonder if I will have root withdrawls. ;)

I got it as a gift and they thought that unlocked meant rootable , so onward we go.

Sooner or later someone will root it, and I think it will be here first, I just

wish i had some tech-knowledge to help.

but I think I read somewhere that there is a way to debloat it. and that

will help some.

and I think it will work with my consumer cellular sim card.

thanks to all :) alpastor
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] graydiggy:
You can root, but with every full reboot, you loose your root. Then you have to root again. There is a work around by doing a soft reboot, but that has been known to cause issues with battery drain and some applications acting abnormal.

If you can deal with the potential for small issues, then by all means, go for it.

As of right now, though, there is no permanent root solution and there may never be for the Verizon and AT&T Note 4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mrjalc:
Hope someone could find a way to root verizon and att devices, if not, this could be the begining of none rotable devices.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] graydiggy:
They are rootable. Like I said before, you loose root with a full reboot, but soft reboots keep the root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mrjalc:
Yes sorry, my mistake. But all we want is permanent root because lets accept that kingroot or another kind of temp root is almost useless for what we want: custom roms.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
its not useless if your a dev because even attempting anything requires root first to battle WP. So its actually very helpful in that sense..

of course you and others who have no idea where to even start with WP might consider it useless, just saying thats very far from it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] heXacode:
I modified the aboot to turn off WP. Only issue right now is not being able to flash it. It's being kept on the side till we can figure out how to use it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
Thats good! I assume the issue now is pushing it to the device which is prevented by the locked BL?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] warriorpluto:
Anyone try this? Check last reply of the page

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3107461
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] heXacode:
Correct and signature verification crap.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] heXacode:
I don't know a thing about that and probably won't try it. Best thing to do is ask the creator what all it does and inform him of our situation on the Note 4 and see if anything can be done, which I'm gonna assume no.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Nemo Aeternamn:
If you're not part of the solution you're either a solid or a gas

Sent from my SM-N910V using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] adamrpostjr:
Worth a shot!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] markworksfx:
What is this can't see pic
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] adamrpostjr:
I tweeted to Samsung asking for the keys to unlock ha
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
lol waist of time
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ChefAnt:
Waste of time replying to something if you can't spell. Oh boy! Quite the chuckle I had.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yamaha_wins:
Actually, isn't the spelling correct? I think it's the grammar?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Reinaldo33897:
lol, it's waste not waist. Waist is where your belt goes lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yamaha_wins:
I know the difference. Which would be grammar correct? But anyways.. the mods are going crazy for off topic posts right now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] heXacode:
Anyways, this is why gatesjunior and his team and myself don't "waste" our time discussing things here because of all the off-topic going on, arguing, etc.

If we have something substantial then we'll probably say something with proof.

This goes for the "Lets talk about root!" thread in the Verizon section too. Too much off-topic and bickering.

Kind of pointless talking about progress here now because of all of that and the neglect of using the off-topic thread made for us.

Anyways, just let people know... We are still working on it. I've taken on the task of doing the man-in-the-middle attack for the keyboard exploit. My goal, hopefully, is to successfully exploit it and get temp root through that and get us off of King and Kingo crap.

So, stay tuned.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
Oh, you got me on that one.. You are just a scholar/genius!

its impossible to keep any thread on topic.. The dev thread was technically closed after root was obtained leaving only these threads.

Maybe devs can create a dev talk only thread in a development section (a think tank thread) for WP since that is now the issue at hand...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Gods Son:
Hey I just want to apologize to you and the community for being such a **** about this whole permanent root thing. It's extremely frustrating to own a device and not be able to do what you want. It's suppose to be an extension of you. I appreciate all of you who are hard at work on this and those of you who still have faith in these guys that are doing it. Keep up the good work. May it all pay off soon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] scarygood536:
I meant to PM you but since I've seen this post I'll just reply to it. Looking at how the keyboard exploit works could we get "persistent root"? What I mean by that is the vulnerability is achieved every reboot. WP still would be enabled obviously, but at least when a reboot (intentional or not) happens the device will reroot itself. After you write a script to send your "package", when swiftkey tries to download a language pack, wouldn't the system think your file is legit allowing it to stay on the file system? What good would a language pack be if it disappeared? I mean it's only signed with SHA-1 and you change the manifest basically telling the system it's legit? Then you would need some code execution? Isn't part of the normal vulnerability actually rebooting? with WP would this void the vulnerability all together? I'm just trying to better understand the process... This is my resource so far [link]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] heXacode:
It would not disappear. Re-read the article through the link you provided. I'll be making a dev only thread shortly to get this exploit done and explain things.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mircury:
The language pack is written to the data partition not the system partition. The system partition is where all the good stuff is stored and typically where supersu resides in an ideal situation. The system partition is what is under WP along with the kernel. If you make changes to the system partition after rooting it gets overwritten on reboot. Your data partition does not get overwritten if I'm not mistaken.

The keyboard has system user privileges which if WP wasn't turned on, would allow you to write to the system partition and it stick.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] scarygood536:
Reading is one thing understanding is another :p. Good Luck. I hope the community takes it serious and stays true to the developer thread rules. It seems this vulnerability is still vulnerable in my BOF1 build. My SE policy being dated 6-16-2015 before the supposed patch. Also, ls -l /system/app/SamsungIME* still returns -rw-r--r-- root root. Looking forward to learning through by following your efforts.

Ah thank you for the explanation. I was putting /data on the same level as /system. We can put supersu in /data too right? From my understanding it helps hide root from this way. Obvious WP is the killer.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mircury:
Ya, you could put supersu in the data partition but you would have to modify the system partition to point to it. So it defeats the purpose.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] insang-droid:
didn't find it in search, but looks like LG G4 has several working root methods(unreleased).. since we're based on similar hardware so may be there's hope? may be something we can use?

http://xdaforums.com/g4/general/future-android-development-lg-g4-t3147603/page7
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] markworksfx:
Any more news on permanent root
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
not that ive seen but doesnt mean its not being worked on
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dque:
That's true and I would like to thanks all the dev's that's working on a root for at&t note 4 I check thread every few hours please keep up the hard work it's highly appreciated
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
youre like me.. check every few hrs and every thread even if i dont have the device
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JOSHSKORN:
What I don't understand, is, why don't all Note 4s on every carrier root the same way? I mean, regardless of the write protection on AT&T and Verizon variants which obviously lose root on a reboot or power off. Do they all have different patching schedules, some more stringent than others?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
certain carriers lock the BL such as vzw and att.. it really varies across the board
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] markworksfx:
So what is the process if I want temp. Root been thinking about it got a lot of task in Tasker that need root access a any links would be helpful on lollipop now don't want to downgrade
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hiperglyde:
I wouldn't do it. It requires searching and reading
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JOSHSKORN:
Download Kingroot 4.5, install it, then go to the Play Store, download Super-sume and install that. Basically Kingroot roots the Note 4, but it's a Chinese product that does who knows what to our phones. Super-sume removes Kingroot and replaces it with SuperSU, which we're all familiar with. There's a Supersume support thread. gatesjunior wrote the app. Look at his profile for his posts to find the thread for support.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Reinaldo33897:
Does anyone have a link to kingroot 4.5 as all I can find is 4.1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
Here you go..

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pz2t6fkg550hfgg/KingUserV4.5.0B200.apk?dl=0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Xak:
[MENTION=3178012]gatesjunior[/MENTION] [MENTION=3508760]heXacode[/MENTION] @ all devs

Is this a vulnerabilitiy for the ATT Note 4 n910a picture attached

[IMG="note 4 vulnrability root exploit?"]http://i.imgur.com/7pB9j1W.jpg[/IMG].

The message says

SECURE KERNEL : FAIL (in red on top)

System software not authorized by ATT has been found on phone please turn off phone and go to nearest att store for help.

Note: I can re create the issue. Don't want to mention how i got to it hear in case this is a major find
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] shadowtuy:
[IMG="excitment"]https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Heavy-Breathing-Cat.jpg[/IMG]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] PaulPizz:
I've flashed a different boot.img and got that screen.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Xak:
I also can reboot and each time shows the custom unlock icon and shows another message about enforcing but it goes by too fast to read, also goes right to that screen each boot.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
Yeah, you cannot get any further than that because it is failing the signature checks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Xak:
What if we had a recovery like an official TWRP would we not be able to flash it with temp root and chainfires flash fire to gain perm root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
No, the signatures are verified on all the boot areas and recovery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ngerasimatos:
Im willing to offer $200 for anyone that can root this device.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] graydiggy:
It's already been rooted...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] markworksfx:
I think he's talking about permanent root

---------- Post added at 05:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:16 PM ----------

I'll join you on that
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dque:
I was on craigslist offering my at&t note 4 and $100 for trade but my $100 can go towards permanent root
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
Money is not the reason the note 4 hasn't obtained permanent root....

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dque:
I know and understand your angle I jest won't to reward the work of the dev's to show how appreciative I am this is the first device I he'd that's not been rooted dating back to the g1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
lol then support them now and not after the fact.

Also, you guys should go to a bounty thread as bounties are not the topic of this thread
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tekjester:
Sure could!

If you had TWRP, you could do whatever you please because that means you've broken WP or cracked Samsung's private key. The trick is breaking WP ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
to add, twrp on vzw or att note 4 isnt a matter of WP, that would be the BL..

so in short, twrp is not possible on att/vzw for some time now due to the locked BL..

root has been achieved but affected by WP which is in the kernel which is protected even further by the locked BL.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] hacktivity:
So now there's a root for the SM-N910A/V for KitKat, but when will there be a root for Lollipop?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
the same root tool works for L on some devices already just not on the note 4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JOSHSKORN:
You didn't answer his question, and if this nor the other thread I directed him to is not the correct thread, maybe you should direct him to the correct threads instead of spamming the forums.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
you directed him to two other threads which he already asked in the wrong thread and is asking a question no one can even answer which is an eta for a lollipop root..

you could have let him know the "answer" yourself instead of having him spam multiple threads lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] liquidaluminum:
Because the boot loaders are locked down on certain devices

Sent from my 4G LTE Samsung Galaxy Note 4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] vscog:
Could we flash the T-Mobile odin file on our att note 4, then root from there?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
No.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] alanbrenton:
I'm always late to the party. Just bought a used GN4 on 5.0.1. and was wondering about rooting it too.

So this rooting process, along will all others, will trip the Knox Counter, correct? The seller didn't even send over the invoice so not even sure if the one-year warranty still applies though the Knox Counter hasn't been tripped yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JOSHSKORN:
A good place to start would be posting your Build Number. Go to your Settings>About Phone and it's in that list. The reason I say that, is there apparently is a recent update that seems like a point of no return. That is, if you have it, there's no way to root. Post back with that info before you bother trying anything else.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] markworksfx:
What update and what models???
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JOSHSKORN:
Look at this page of this thread. From what I understand, if you took the update in question, your build number will end in OF1.

Let me explain everything before someone comes along and gives you a very short and practically useless answer.

Yes, you can root the Galaxy Note 4 AT&T and Verizon Retail variants, HOWEVER, due to write protection/locked boot loader, root does not stick, and is lost over time, and also lost when you reboot or power down/power up your phone. This does not apply to any other Galaxy Note 4 from any other carrier, with the exception of the Developer Edition of the Galaxy Note 4 on the Verizon network.

The current exploit used to root is only exploitable on Android Kitkat 4.4.4

In order to root your Verizon Retail/AT&T Galaxy Note 4, you must roll back your phone to Android Kitkat 4.4.4 if you are currently on Lollipop 5.0.1.

According to replies in the thread I just linked, there was an update after the first OTA for Lollipop, which changes the end of your build number to OF1, which is somehow the point of no return. I don't know why, though, I've just heard that after taking the OF1 update, you are unable to rollback. Be advised that the thread I linked, is the Verizon variant, and you may have the AT&T variant, possibly. There may be a different carrier specific thread for that. If you need help, post back and I'll see if I can help you find the information you need. I'm on Verizon

If you're able to rollback, then after doing so, you need to download KingRoot 4.5, install it and run the root app. Try to find an English version of it, otherwise, it's in Chinese. If you can read that, then great.

KingRoot is a product from China, which, does who knows what to our phones. Its root manager is something the KingRoot team made up.

Super-Sume removes KingRoot, keeps root intact and installs SuperSU, the app all Rooters are familiar with
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] alanbrenton:
Thanks for your response. The Build number is LRX22C.N910W8VLU1BOC4

Screen shot of the about phone:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49jnI2SkaiTVDMxWnhhSG1JN1l1UllBdU5TMEdTVDFISDdv/view?usp=sharing

Didn't know that KingRoot is only for phones on KitKat.

Hopefully our GN4's will get at least the 5.1.1 update.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] budroid:
Not sure if this will be helpful or not...I had an AT&T HTC One XL that I was able to unlock the bootloader. I think the method used had something to do with the official ROM update unlocking the bootloader during an upgrade from ICS to Jelly Bean.

IF YOU'RE READING QUICKLY, PLEASE READ AGAIN AND REALIZE THIS WAS FOR ANOTHER PHONE NOT THE NOTE 4. I have no idea if this could be helpful with this device but here's the link to the thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2155071
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
htc uses fastboot to my knowledge which is somewhat different than samsung devices
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dallen5:
[MENTION=3508760]heXacode[/MENTION] how is it coming with the WP???
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] heXacode:
Working on keyboard exploit now. I don't know how far I'll be able to get it to get to WP. I'm looking to hopefully escalating keyboard exploit to user root (0).

WP won't effect this exploit but it may be a way to work around it like moto x did rather than trying to get to WP and shutting it off.

Haven't gotten that far but its promising.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dallen5:
Hope you break through on it!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] heXacode:
I'm sure we will crack something. I'm getting some help from gatesjunior on some parts.

Will resume it once I get off chemotherapy Thursday. This stuff makes me sick and concentration lacks going through it. But I'm working hard on it when I can.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mrjalc:
Get well man, your health is most important than anything else. Thanks for your hard work!

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] eklipz3:
I know this ain't the but I'm saying it anyway, beat that thing hexacode and pray you don't need anymore chemo. I apologize to the mods but I had to encourage a community friend.

Sent from my VS985 4G