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[Nexus 9 General] paztine:
Good to hear that your happy with your purchased...likewise too. I have noticed that it's slow to charge maybe because of the SOC similar to my shield tablet . light bleed is very minimal you'll only noticed when tab is booting up. I haven't unlock/ root mine still enjoying stock for now maybe in a few months I will..
[Nexus 9 General] pknath19:
I have the same. HT4AHJ
[Nexus 9 General] aLPaSLaN07:
What is the release time and do you have the common issues?
[Nexus 9 General] icon123:
I just got a HT4ARJ from Amazon and it is absolutely flawless. I had a previous release day unit that had the normal symptoms and got returned. But this one is a definite keeper. Doesn't even have any light bleed.
[Nexus 9 General] singmokjai:
Which model is the confirmed version for the newly improved nexus?

Is it HT4BNJT or HT4AHJ?

Too bad they don't show the model/revision number on Amazon...wonder if I can call and they will tell me? Can't wait to buy this tablet -_-'

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Does anyone else have an older model/revision number to compare with the ones provided by EverythingPortable in the above?

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Hey icon123 I plan to get the nexus 9 from Amazon too but can't be sure if it will be the newer batch with the fixed issues like light bleeding or flat buttons. Can you tell me which size and color you got from Amazon and the dates in which you purchased the old one and the one you just got? Thanks a lot!!
[Nexus 9 General] icon123:
I purchased it Friday night. It is a 32 GB Black. I noticed earlier in the day (on Friday) that Amazon had pulled the black 32 because of "issues with their current stock" Something like that. Then when they showed up again later that night for $50 less, I pulled the trigger. Maybe its luck, but I know how bad these units can be because my first one from BB had all three symptoms. But this one is perfect. What a difference. I purchased the 1st on on release day from BB. I don't remember any of the other details about that one.
[Nexus 9 General] singmokjai:
Thanks icon123 for the super prompt response!! Yea I saw the message regarding the issue message too. I plan to get the 16gb model in white. I believe Amazon has 30 day refund policy right? I think I'm pulling the trigger on this one! I doubt the HTC hot deal promotion is going to offer the nexus 9 for half price again lol. $50 off is better than nothing, fair imo. Could you tell me how much space is left in the internal hard drive after all the pre-loaded stuff? Thanks again you really helped me on this one :D By the way did you order through Amazon Prime?
[Nexus 9 General] richii0207:
Perhaps it's flush on purpose who you don't accidentally press it while in landscape mode? I hate the tablets that have the buttons sticking out...makes the buttons easy to accidentally press.
[Nexus 9 General] icon123:
Yes, I ordered through prime. I don't quite remember how much space was left but I think it was 23gb. Its a good device.
[Nexus 9 General] marctronixx:
amazon has no way to check the model number. the stock is in shelves in a warehouse. they are not going to stop to check for you.

just because a tab is earlier or later than someone elses does not mean its automatically defective. i have a earlier model than the launch day tablet i had and this one it more solidily built.

buttons are flush on purpose according to a google rep.

please dont get caught up in this bandwagon defective nonsense.
[Nexus 9 General] enduin:
I got mine release day. 16gb HT4ANJT. Lightbleed isn't bad, only noticeable on bootup and really just on the top edge, sides and bottom are very faint at most. Buttons are pretty flush but not too much for me at least. Far out enough to feel but not too much so to cause accidental input.
[Nexus 9 General] singmokjai:
Nexus 9 work with usb microsd card reader?

Hey guys! Can anyone take a pic of their nexus 9 usb port so I can confirm that it works with Unitek Micro SD card reader adapter with OTG USB 2.0 from Amazon?

If this works I won't need to purchase the 32GB version and just get the 16GB version of the nexus 9.
[Nexus 9 General] plbelanger:
The 16gb is $350 on amazon atm. Is this the new revision...anyone know?
[Nexus 9 General] brushrop03:
I returned my original order back to Google to take advantage of the black friday sale on Amazon ($50 off w/$50 play credit).

My original didn't have bad light bleed, but the buttons sucked. I've returned my Amazon Nexus 3 times. All HT4A models. One was HT4B (can't remember rest off top of head), but it had the same issues too.

4th replacement is coming today. It's been pretty easy doing it through Amazon. Just a few clicks, and they give you a shipping label and send out the new one. Guess I should send back these 3 before they charge me...

I'm pretty sure HTC hasn't recalled any of these bad units, so retailers are going to continue sending out old ones until they run out. Just going to be luck of the draw.
[Nexus 9 General] plbelanger:
Yeah Amazon is good about returns but I guess I will just wait a bit more then.
[Nexus 9 General] singmokjai:
Nexus 9

brushrop03 it seems you know which model numbers are the bad ones. Could you tell me which model numbers will likely have the button and other issues? Or could you share a little more on your experiences considering you returned your nexus 3 times. I assume you bought all of them from Amazon? When did you buy them? Could you tell me if Amazon charged you a restocking fee and what reason did you tell them for returning the item? Sorry for bombarding you with questions lol. Let us know how your 4th replacement goes! Thanks in advance! :cowboy:
[Nexus 9 General] marctronixx:
again there is no rhyme or reason to which builds will give good or bad results--which are all subjective to the end user.

i have an early ht4a model which was much better overall than a later (ht4aj) model.

it IS conceivable to think early builds will be rough over later builds as the manufacturing process tweaks as they go and newer components from different vendors are sourced, etc., so waiting later may yield better fruit.

i have read reports on this very site in other threads in this sub forum who have even had later (november) builds and still had issues.

anyone here at best can only speculate and no one will know if their model will be better or worse than a prior model.

if one is concerned about built quality, wait until january or so to purchase as there may be potentially more later/newer builds (which ALL can be guaranteed will be perfect--which is what everyone wants) and the manufacturing process may be better overall.
[Nexus 9 General] brushrop03:
Correct, I bought all of them from Amazon. Rather I bought 1 and have received 3 replacements.

You really don't have to give any reason. They will allow for any returns/exchanges within their return period (Jan 31 for Holidays) as long as it's not physically broken. I simply told them the product was defective. No restocking free, and free shipping back to Amazon.

I've received the same model number each time, and each have had pretty bad buttons. Some worse than others. Regardless of model number I'm opening and checking them all out. I'll take pics of each when I get home tonight and post.

If this 4th one doesn't work out, I'll just keep one until late january and try to exchange then. The bad buttons are super annoying, but I miss not having my tablet :(
[Nexus 9 General] singmokjai:
Nexus 9

Thanks for the reply! I didn't know Amazon has free returns lol. At this point there may be somewhat of a trend in terms of certain model numbers having bad buttons but I believe its random at this point. I read some people have these model numbers but the tablet is fine. Right now I just can't sit still seeing my nexus hasn't shipped yet :eek: Good luck on your 4th one and can't wait to see your pics!
[Nexus 9 General] reijndert:
HT4ALJT here.

Acquired on release date in Holland.

No problems with keys. I can feel them with my fingertips.
[Nexus 9 General] ilostmypistons:
^^^Mine is the same build date/batch as yours and absolutely perfect..... but I only opened the box 15 minutes ago^^^
[Nexus 9 General] kyyummy:
I got a HT4AJJT on launch day. There were problems with the back cover, buttons and light bleeding. Curiously, the tablet was dirty with sand too. HTC sand color joke? :eek:

I almost pulled the trigger on a different brand, but the N9 screen size is so good that I don't want to give up on the first try. I ordered another N9 from Amazon and I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
[Nexus 9 General] brushrop03:
So here are all the models I've received from Amazon over the past week or so.

HT4AJJT

HT4B7JT

HT4ADJT

HT4AHJT

So here's a comparison of the units and their buttons. They are in order by models i listed above going from right to left. The two on the far right (HT4B7 AND BT4AJJ), look good but they are still fairly flush. Don't let the pic fool you. They are a little easier to press than the other two. Though they still require a decent amount of pressure if using fingertip. Using nail makes it easier, but annoying.

Pic 3 is for light bleed comparison. Go in order from left to right this time. The HT4B (2nd from left) easily had it the worst . Fairly noticeable in the corner when watching youtube clips. HT4AHJ (right) had a big spot up top, center-right. The HT4AJJ and HT4ADJ were barely noticeable.

The HT4AJJ definitely has problems with the back. So does the HT4AHJ
[Nexus 9 General] singmokjai:
Hey brushrop03! Thanks for the pics! In the first pic I can see the two tablets to the far right obviously sticks out more than the other two on far left. The 2nd pic I guess due to the viewing angle they all look the same. I can't tell which sticks out more. However in the 2nd pic it seems the two tablets on the bottom, which I believe are the same 2 on far right from 1st pic the buttons look a little crooked. (correct me if I'm wrong) As for the 3rd pic there are very obvious light bleeding in the tablets with the 1st tablet being the least obvious. It's better to spot the light bleeding in the dark right? I'm personally more concerned about the light bleeding and the back of the case having too much give. Buttons can be annoying if too flushed for sure, but I guess that will depend on when my fingers meet the buttons lol. If only I had ordered my nexus while I was still on free trial of prime...every day now is a waiting game :( Once again thanks for the pics bro, do let us know if you find other problems that are worth taking note of.
[Nexus 9 General] brushrop03:
The picture is a little misleading. It may seem the buttons stick out, but they are still fairly flush, and a little wobbly. There's not a significant difference between each of them, but the two on the right are slightly better.

You don't have to be in a dark room. If you can only tell in a dark room, it's probably not that bad in my opinion. These pictures are with brightness all the way turned up (which I doubt I'll have it turned up in regular usage).

I'm not sure if there's a pattern with the models and their builds. But hope this helps to figure anything out.

Going to hold on to HT4ADJT. In terms of lightbleed, buttons, and mushy back it was the best. I may still try to do a return mid-January (yay for extended Holiday returns) to see if anything has changed, but this may be what I'm stuck with. *Finger crossed for better buttons* At least it was $50 off with a $50 Play credit. Still enjoy performance, Lollipop, and the bigger screen.
[Nexus 9 General] singmokjai:
So when I test my nexus for lightbleed is it best to put the brightness at max? Is that the best way to spot it? Actually I think it's probably better to test in a dark room or night time because you can spot the bleeding easier. In a bright room its probably harder to tell. By the way you said you got $50 play credit and you bought it through Amazon? I didn't see that deal...I did see it like 2 weeks ago something about $50 play credit on Amazon. I guess it isn't available now since I purchased mine just this pass Monday. I wish I can somehow have trial Prime now on Amazon so I can get my nexus faster in case I need to return this one.
[Nexus 9 General] Apoxx:
Got mine today. Not too horrible backlight bleed, but the viewing angles are horrific. Here compared to my tab s (amoled screen).

Looks like a cheap TN panel to me, not a good IPS like it is supposed to sport.

http://imgur.com/jMoIWtw

http://imgur.com/gVHClMI

Should I return it?

Serial: HT4BNJT

No flex on back, and buttons are OK, although a little bit flushed.
[Nexus 9 General] singmokjai:
Nexus 9

Could you take closer pics of the buttons? The lightbleed doesn't seem too bad. Mine is arriving tomorrow!!! :cool:
[Nexus 9 General] 3dupunk:
My unit isn't that bad and I'm debating on rma-ing it, I've been approved by HTC but I'm worried that I'll get another back with even more issues. The only complaint about the buttons that I have is that my volume rocker, the volume up side is more sunken in. the back of my unit seems fine and the light bleeding isn't really noticeable unless I'm looking for it or during boot up. Had they not gone with the 4:3 aspect ratio and gone 16:9/10 I think the light bleeding would be less of a problem than it currently is.

Fwiw, I love my n9!
[Nexus 9 General] kyyummy:
HT4AJJT (Black, Best Buy) vs. HT4B7JT (White, Amazon)

The buttons feel more tactile in the HT4B7JT. In other words, the button surface isn't as soft as the black one. The Vol+ button isn't sunken in as much. The default keyboard sound/vibration on key press was a good deal stronger. The back cover doesn't bulge out like the black one did. Plus the slimmed down edges on the sides make the speaker grills appear thinner, and the tablet feels better when I hold it. This is likely due to the sharp edge around the front and uneven weight distribution on the HT4AJJT.

The tablet now has an IC certification logo on the back and the Spanish grammar has been corrected. The back and sides don't line up around the USB port, but that did not interfere with plugging it in.

I noticed less light bleeding at the top of the screen. However, WiFi couldn't connect to a WPA2 corporate network or a guest WiFi with captive portal. Though my phone's WPA2 hotspot connects, further testing will have to wait till I can grab the 293MB OTA at home and try some things side by side.

PS: To anyone on the fence about which color to get, I think the white one looks significantly better from every angle.
[Nexus 9 General] singmokjai:
Nexus 9

When did you buy the tablet from best buy and Amazon? Great pics btw.
[Nexus 9 General] brushrop03:
Yes its easier to see lightbleed in dark but test based on personal usage. I doubt ill ever have brightness all the way up so i normally judge at 50-75% brightness. In the dark i definitely wont have it at 100%

All lcd screens have some lightbleed.
[Nexus 9 General] Semantics:
Got mine from Best Buy today. HT4ASJ I haven't seen anyone with this model in the thread. Has pretty awful light bleed and the buttons are sunken in nearly flush. It's going back tomorrow, hopefully for a better one.
[Nexus 9 General] kyyummy:
HT4AJJT (Black, Best Buy) vs. HT4B7JT (White, Amazon)

I picked up the tablet from a Best Buy store the day it went on sale. The Amazon order was made on 12/09 and received on 12/11.

The HT4B7JT has some bleeding on the top right side, and also on the bottom corners. Despite that, the 4B display looks better overall than the 4A did. The 4A is kind of grayer and with poorer color/contrast than 4B.
[Nexus 9 General] brushrop03:
I'm so disappointed with HTC. I can't believe so many corners were cut in production for a premium priced device.

Now there are rumors that they may be releasing their own tablet similar to the Nexus 9
[Nexus 9 General] singmokjai:
Nexus 9

You just made me feel better cause I ordered mine on the night of 12/08 and it's arriving this morning! Too bad I have to wait after work to see it lol. Btw could you tell me how you got those color displays on so I could test mine later tonight? Once again, great pics bro.
[Nexus 9 General] mkygod:
From my understanding, HT4A** is still an October model.

The new revision supposedly is somewhere in November, so that would be in one of the HT4B** batches I presume. Not all HT4B** are part of the new revision though; mine wasn't (still had light bleed and even a worse case of sunken buttons).

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Looks promising. Thanks for the report. Was the button issue improved?
[Nexus 9 General] Semantics:
Yeah the bootloader says mine was built in October. I guess I'll just return it Best Buy and exchange it. I'll ask them if they have the HT4B serial numbers, if not, I'll just keep opening the box right in the store until I get one that has the build quality of a 500 dollar tablet. I called HTC, and the rep (unsurprisingly) said this is the first time he'd ever heard of any of these build quality issues. I also noticed, that while browsing the web while charging the tablet, I was losing battery. I was using a different cable than the HTC one. I can only imagine how awful it will be charging and playing a game or watching a movie or whatever. The battery fell 2% in the limited amount of time browsing the web and I didn't even set the tablet up with all my apps, because I didn't like the light bleed and the power/volume buttons the minute I turned the tablet on.
[Nexus 9 General] kyyummy:
The app is called Backlight Bleed Test

When I put the tablet in the Moko slim case the light bleed increased dramatically. I think the tablet design/build has structural flaws that make the tablet flex more than other devices. The panel back light distorts if the panel isn't perfectly flat. I love the Nexus 9 but I wish it didn't have these "first generation" issues. Many manufacturers have been making tablets for years.
[Nexus 9 General] milkaCH:
I ordered one Nexus 9 one month ago from Play Store (sent from Holland) and had issues with it (HT4AGJT), get a replacement with same number and then finally get refund.

Are the batch coming from Play Store correct now ? Are they all HT4B ?

(I just call Google to know this but they can't (won't) tell me. They tell me that they got any return due to quality issue (lol ?))

Thanks
[Nexus 9 General] singmokjai:
Nexus 9

Ok guys I just got my Nexus 9 earlier this evening. First I gotta say the design is nice and feels pretty good. This is the first tablet I've ever owned. The back of the nexus is sturdy and firm. The buttons are more flush than tactile, however I don't know how much of a difference it is for those of you who got the improved versions. (newer batch) Even looking at the pics I took the buttons look like its sticking out a bit but in reality its pretty flush. I personally feel that it just takes getting used to.

My main concern however is the lightbleeding. In a dark room with a black background and 100% brightness level, you can obviously see bleeding from the top right corner. There's also some bleeding from the left side but not as much. My initial thought was that I probably have to RMA it but now I'm thinking, it's not like I'm staring at this background with the lightbleed all the time. I'm not sure if I should RMA it or not as the bleeding issue is the only concern I have after examining the tablet. Please let me know what you guys think, should I RMA? On a scale of 1-10 how bad is the lightbleed? Any decent tablet like the Samsung Galaxy Note 2014 could have satisfied me but I wanted to choose something else other than Samsung products. I mainly wanted a tablet for general entertainment and productivity purposes. Not a heavy gamer or anything. Check out the pics below. Look forward to hearing from you guys.
[Nexus 9 General] 3dupunk:
This is my screen at a 100% brightness using the backlight bleeding app. I'm keeping mine, sure it has its faults but compared with others I've seen my unit is as good as it is going to get for right now.
[Nexus 9 General] Semantics:
I was going to also, but mine is going back to HTC. I can live without it for a week, and I told them I wanted my unit repaired, no refurb replacement. I want the light bleed taken care of, and I want the power/volume buttons fixed, they are awful. Hopefully, they take care of it. The only other problem I have is horrible battery life, and I haven't installed anything but GSAM monitor, so I don't know what's going on there, but I didnt bother to unlock or root because I know its going back to HTC in TX tomorrow.
[Nexus 9 General] singmokjai:
Nexus 9

Yea i used the same app as well. I think my nexus bleeding is around same as yours. I'm going to keep it for a week or two and see how things go. Did you get the nexus from Amazon as well? Which model number and color?
[Nexus 9 General] Shadowguy:
bought one on release date returned because of dead pixel and lightbleed + flush buttons

really want to get another one I miss the darn thing.....should I wait or give it another shot and hope to get a decent device?
[Nexus 9 General] rymanh:
Just picked up a 32GB white nexus 9 So far I'm liking the build quality. I was lucky because the buttons on the side are easy to press.. but there is noticeable light bleed. It's not really noticeable during use. The back can be slightly pressed in but I don't think I would've ever noticed that unless I didn't hear about it prior. All in all I'm very happy with my purchase.
[Nexus 9 General] singmokjai:
Nexus 9

By any chance can you share pics of your buttons? I believe I have the newer model and my buttons look pretty flush but even in the pics I shared in my earlier post it's hard to tell on pics. I'm still trying to get used to the buttons. The back doesn't budge for mine at all.
[Nexus 9 General] rymanh:
This picture shows that the buttons are indeed raised. There's no problem at all pressing them.

As for the back cover. It presses in. But ever so slightly. I seriously would have never noticed it at all if I hadn't heard someone else mention it. The only gripe I have is the light bleed. It's not a deal breaker for me though. In fact, There was a little light bleed on my 2013 nexus 7

The screen actually looks pretty nice and the 4:3 aspect ratio works really well in apps and on the Web. During video playback there are back bars on the top and bottom but it's about the same amount of screen as the nexus 7 which I thought was perfect for laying in bed and watching movies. However if I look at the screen from an angle there is a shiny yellow glare. Clearly this tablet is designed for personal consumption and not for a group of people sitting around watching it.

The thing that bugs me the most about this tablet is that there is no hdmi out support . I have slimport adapter for my nexus 7 and can't use it. I really hope that can be changed with a custom kernel. But I don't even know if that's possible

The tablet was built in October and the serial number starts with HT4AF
[Nexus 9 General] singmokjai:
Nexus 9

Wow my buttons are definitely flush after seeing your pic. Based on your serial number it seems you got the tablet from the earlier batch. Suppose to have improved buttons in the later batch. Did you get your nexus from Amazon? If from Amazon, when did you buy it?
[Nexus 9 General] rymanh:
I bought mine online from futureshop. I actually wasn't going to get this because my nexus 7 was working perfectly .. But I dropped it and the screen smashed and the back was all bent. So I ordered the nexus 9 that night.

It seems that there isn't a definitive way to be sure that you're purchasing a tablet with more tactile buttons
[Nexus 9 General] Jsunn:
I still don't think that there is any way to know that there is an actual "revision". There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to what models will have lightbleed issues, button problems, or back cover issues.

Is anyone seeing a trend with later models being better?

Is someone tracking models and build date and problems?

Thanks,

-J