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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JOSHSKORN:
Thanks for the screen shot, that helps immensely.

It looks like you don't have the Verizon, nor the AT&T variant. Am I right? And you may live in Canada, as well?

AT&T - SM-N910A

Verizon - SM-N910V

Yours - SM-N910W8

I'm not familiar with that one at all, but what I can tell you, and mind you, I've never actually utilized this site, so I would do your homework, but apparently the site www.oneclickroot.com claims your phone can be rooted. What I also can tell you, is look for Chainfire. I looked at the list of compatible phones, and the SM-N910W8 is listed, but only with build KTU84P.N910W8VLU1ANIH. Is this the KitKat downgrade build you need? I'm not sure, to be honest. Look around for a forum specific to your model number. - SM-N910W8 and find out, there. I wouldn't know if one exists for XDA or not. I'm in the USA, and like I said, yours appears to be from Canada.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] liquidaluminum:
Hey, brother, I just wanted to say that I'm praying for you. My father just had his entire prostate removed to beat his cancer. He goes back to doctor next week to see if he's still cancer free, so when I saw I'm with you in your fight...brother, I truly am. God bless to you and yours, my friend.

Sent from my 4G LTE Samsung Galaxy Note 4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dallen5:
Yes I understand that and hope you get to feeling better!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] meanhacker:
hope you get better man!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gcodori:
I've only posted once in this thread but I also want to wish you a speedy recovery. Cheers mate!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
Good luck bro, my mom has cancer and that chemo to hell.

Sent from my SM-G925V using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jmahaffey:
I have never posted in this thread, but I took the OF1 update on AT&T and I was able to rollback to NK3 without any issues.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] eklipz3:
Verizon will not roll back, at least my n910v won't.

Sent from my VS985 4G
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] epic4grooted:
I flashed through odin
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JOSHSKORN:
Are you on AT&T or Verizon? Users of those two carriers tend to post in both Verizon and AT&T areas since both have locked bootloaders. I'm on Verizon, and it was a Verizon forum I saw this in.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] epic4grooted:
Verizon I took the lollipop update and rolled back to 4.4.4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jmahaffey:
AT&T
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] eklipz3:
Epic is the rollback from the OF1 update because I have Verizon and I couldn't.

Sent from my VS985 4G
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] phone dude:
As usual, this crap is getting ridiculous. Can't you people follow forum etiquette? Be more considerate.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
Epic, do me a favor and flash the latest Lollipop update again and show us that screen shot, much smaller please, as an attachment :) And then roll back again.. And repeat the show of that as well.. You did not take the hsabdr update right ? This was the official OTA update from your device ? Or did you flash the latest from hsabdr ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] epic4grooted:
It was the ota then I flashed back cause I was having problems with chromecast and my appradio 3 so I went back to 4.4.4 I accidently accepted the first update prior to 5.0 and haven't accepted one since I will do it again when I get home I on a road trip for work right now
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
Now remember, there were I believe two updates for Lollipop.. So did you take both ?? You are sure your build was the latest BOF1 and not BOAF ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] epic4grooted:
After I flashed I got one 4.4.4. Then I got the first one of the 5.0 which still has me on 4.4.4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] stealyourface1:
It sounds like it's the ota BOAF not the most recent BOF1...

I have read a few posts from those who took most recent ota BOF1 and tried rolling back with no luck, one of witch was a DEV N4 turning it to retail ed. stuck at OF1 then having to sweet talk Sammy into flashing it back to its original DEV status

it isn't the most recent update...I know this this because when lp was rolling out I took the ota (2 parter) I opted not to take the 2nd download and checked my android version and it showed 4.4.4 still, it was the second download that was LP BOAF.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] epic4grooted:
That's where I'm at now exactly
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] stealyourface1:
I recommend using Odin rather than taking any ota that way in the event perm root is achieved and you wanna root you can Odin back...do some homework first if you intend to root your N4 in the future...also i suggest using [MENTION=3178012]gatesjunior[/MENTION] debloat tool to get rid of bloat and the pesky ota reminders to update
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
odin or taking update on the phone are the same typically when it comes to being able to downgrade or not
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
Is there a known method to root the note 5? :) :)

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
when is the note 5 custom rom ready? and will it trip knox?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
Note 5 won't be out till August 12 lol, but i bet it will get root as fast as the SG6.

Running On New Deadly Venom Note 4 v3.0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
Lol lol, sorry I couldn't resist. In all seriousness, I had the note edge and it was by far my favorite phone of all times... I only let it go because the s6 got rooted. I will remain on the s6 unless a miracle happens and the note 5 obtains root. I really miss my big screens, I feel your pain to my note 4-family .

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JOSHSKORN:
Screw the Note 5, I wanna root the Note 6. LOL.

/sarcasm

Anyway, the turn off for the Note 5 for me is, the lack of Micro SD card, if that rumor is correct. However, I'd read something about an extended battery/case for the S6 that actually adds a Micro SD slot. I'd be willing to go that route in my next phone.

Back on topic - There's another Note 4 user on another thread, and I hope he's following THIS thread and someone's claims to have been on BOF1 and the ability to rollback to 4.4.4. I'll PM him or link him to this thread if the consensus is that it CAN be done, but I'm not going to believe just one person's claims, particularly if it seems to be more common knowledge now that you can't rollback from BOF1.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Gods Son:
Actually there is a case for the S6 that is a battery and has a slot for the micro SD card. I'm so serious about this. Google it because it retails for $89.99

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Someone said months ago probably about 2 or 3 months after the Note 4 came out for the AT&T model that there never be root for it. That the Note 5 will arrive long before root is ever achieved on the Note 4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yacopsae:
I just got the note 4, and unfortunately it's an ATT model. I have been reading a little bit of this thread but haven't read everything there is alot of pages. A couple years ago I had a Droid X and they used a safestrap recovery to be able to use custom roms. Would something like that be possible with our phone? Sorry if this has been asked already, just sucks having a locked bootloader. I almost want to try to trade it for a T-Mobile or International version/Dev Edition. =\
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yamaha_wins:
Currently not possible.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
yamaha answered you already but to add safestrap is actually no longer developed by hashcode to my knowledge.. if your ddvice did have perma root theres alternatives but due to WP you cant keep root after a reboot lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Gods Son:
At least we have one of the most secure phones on the planet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yamaha_wins:
But there is multisystem which allows you to run multiple roms which could boot from the sdcard but due to WP this will not work on write protected note 4's
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tekjester:
WP is a generic term, but not technically correct with what you're talking about. The bootloader, system, and boot partition all have "write protection." It's all linked together by DM-verity. We can turn off Android system Write Protection, that's how we get root, we just can't keep it. DM-verity (in the kernel) sends the root hash the system and boot partitions to the bootloader and reverts any block changes that have invalidated the signature. We can modify the data, but once we try to read it, dm-verity will refuse to load the information. If we mess with something important in System or Boot, the device will crash, reboot, and we lose root. Other times, it fails and is re-written so we gracefully lose root. So, it's not so much "write protection" as is it is "modified system read protection with the ability to undo all your hard work." So we turn off Write Protection in Android, and can touch the system, but when we tried to read something back, it fails.

However, the bootloader is very much write-protected with eMMC and a 2048 bit signature. If you can write the bootloader, you can turn off DM-Verity (really, you can do whatever you want), and root to your heart's content. Getting past the WP of the bootloader is the key, like I said.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nastyking:
I have a question about the temp root if I were to use it would it be possible to have wifi hot spot unlocked on this note 4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yamaha_wins:
That's possible without root using foxfi, I use the paid foxfi app daily. But I also asked the same question about bypass the check while rooted and if it would stick after root is lost due to reboot. I never got a reply when I asked before. :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] epic4grooted:
this is where I am now I will be home tmro and flash the next morning and post again
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ThePublisher:
My build is COC4. Which to my knowledge is the most recent update for ATT Note 4. Am I missing something here with everyone else on BOF1 or BOAF?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Escobar27:
Can someone please confirm the correct build and if it possible to roll back using odin?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
Those are Verizon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] madchainsawer:
You have to be on kitkat for the note 4 and it is a temp root so you cant turn off the phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ODSTZ3RO:
So what about at&t ? is the new update safe? I've just been postponing it .
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ZephCr:
Just outta curiosity, since this can be rooted but not perma root, can you remove the files that let you tether without att knowing? And will they stay gone when root is disabled?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
nice progress on perma root
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yamaha_wins:
Why not just use foxfi? I have yet to figure out why temporary rooting the note 4 would be worth the time. Most claim ad blocking but I haven't found ad's to that big of a issue.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ZephCr:
And that won't trigger another letter from att about tethering without a tether plan?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
lol agree. i wouldnt just for that but at same time if you use ad blockers you can really see the difference in every app and browsers
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yamaha_wins:
I have verizon and I've used foxfi from day 1 of purchasing this phone.. but I've never got a letter from Verizon.. but I mostly use my hotspot for my tablets, dish network, I have in the past used my hotspot to play xbox live on the 360.

But a guy I worked with which had att also rooted his note 2 and started using his hotspot he also got a letter from att.. maybe att has other means of detecting usage of the hotspot
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
it doesnt matter typically.. if they see excessive use they have the right to terminate data services..

for example, its almost impossible to use in excess of 100gb on 1 cell phone line.. whether they have proof or not excessive use and other items are prohibited such as p2p streaming etc. since they use large amounts of data and can negatively impact other users on the network and cost them $
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yamaha_wins:
I use ad guard on my nexus 10, I play words with friends, I've noticed that words doesn't play video's anymore just shows the same ad over and over..

I've updated to lollipop, I'd really like to flash back to kk! My phone is laggy after flashing lollipop.. I just hate the process of setting the phone back up after a clean install.

Sorry about the double post. I was going to delete 1 and merge together... don't seem to have the delete option available
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
to add, i dont work for att but do work for usc and know ppl who work for att and cell companies have similar policies..

ive seen users get suspended for 30gb on one line when they have a low data pkg because its excessive even tho they pay for overages
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ZephCr:
So back to my original question, anyone??
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
he answered your question with an alternate solution.. you an use foxfi regardless to do the same thing

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and why dont you try it and report back? you expect others to do it for you and tell you how it went instead of doing it yourself which would b a lot quicker imo
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ZephCr:
and why dont you try it and report back? you expect others to do it for you and tell you how it went instead of doing it yourself which would b a lot quicker imo

I don't have the phone other wise I would try it lol. I'm I search of something new but since Samsung started integrating batteries and no sd card I'm stuck. It's either this or the s6 with the 89 dollar case that provides what I need.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
I don't have the phone other wise I would try it lol. I'm I search of something new but since Samsung started integrating batteries and no sd card I'm stuck. It's either this or the s6 with the 89 dollar case that provides what I need.[/QUOTE]

oh lol. i thought u had the device.. the s6 is a beast of a phone i say its worth every penny
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mircury:
It won't work. Once you fix it to allow tethering it will fail the WP check on boot up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] johnsgone:
Any additional information ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
i was being sarcastic bcuz hos post had 0 to do with perma root progress lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] XVIravenIVX:
Out of curiosity does anyone know if the update that got pushed out today comes with the fun little feature of removing the ability to roll back to 4.4.4?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Dwillian:
I'm not sure which update you are referring to, but I think it probably does prevent the option to rollback and probably makes rooting your phone even less likely. Here's a link on how to upgrade that preserves the option to rollback and root your phone: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2942937
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] rmp5s:
If root is still not possible in the next couple few months, I'm considering selling my Note 4. I took a leap of faith in buying it knowing there was no root. I still have my fingers crossed but it's looking kinda bleak...

Anyone else thinking of selling?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] solodV8:
I'm thinking to give a try to Nexus 6. Don't see any other competitors to this phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jomeza001:
Also thinking of selling my Note 4 att and get a TMOB or Verizon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] heXacode:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3166586

Follow progress. Be sure to follow the rules. No posting unless you can help out with experience.

The pursuit for perm root is not dead.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] rmp5s:
Awesome. Good to hear the quest continues. Wish I could help as, like Solod mentioned, there really is no other phone like this. Thanks for the info.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] happy2472:
Promising

I hope root is achieved sooner then later bought this phone outright right after i told my wife were getting divorced and smashed my S4 lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
As mentioned here let's stay on topic please or post on the other thread above my quote.

Running On New Deadly Venom Note 4 v3.0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jcradio:
new texting vulnerability in Android

I don't post much but do read the thread often. Thought this might be of interest to acquiring root.

theverge.com/2015/7/27/9045841/android-vulnerability-mms-stagefright-exploit-hack
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
root has already been obtained so id say it wont help
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jcradio:
I did not know perm root was obtained. Unless you mean temp root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
your post was asking if stagefright exploit could be used to obtain root.. root has already been obtained so stagefright means nothing..

what you need for "perma root" is a way to bypass wp, not another root method
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] scottjoshuac:
I'm pretty sure Lollipop hasn't been rooted yet on the ATT Note 4. Probably should make sure you're correct before shutting someone down so quick. Not everyone wants to be stuck on 4.4...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
why would anyone want to work on a temp root that is almost completely useless on L instead of working to bypass WP for a permanent root solution?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] scottjoshuac:
It's not useless. Many people appreciate having some sort of root, be it temporary or not. By trying to root Lollipop we may find other exploits to use for write protection.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Android.Ninja:
"Temporary root" should not be considered as the "Root being achieved," especially if you loose root on reboot, power loss, or shut down of the device. While temporary root is progress being made & signs of progress, it does not bypass WP. Once permanent root is achieved, then the device shall be considered as rooted.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mbrown8767:
Change hosts.txt with temp root?

I hope this is considered "on-topic". One of the main benefits of root access (for me) is the ability to block ads.

If one gets temporary root access, wouldn't it be possible to permanently change the hosts.txt file so that you can block a lot of adverts? Or will you still lose that feature when you reboot/root is lost?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
lol if its not considered a form of root then you shouldnt call in temporary "root" or perma "root" either then.

fact of the matter is, root and WP are two separate items altogether.

Root has been achieved.. this is fact.. it not sticking after reboot is not an issue with root itself its an issue with WP preventing the root from sticking.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Martinjv71:
Real root has not been achieved. A TEMP root has. It's like owning a car with 1 wheel. Yes you own a car BUT it's not complete. Or even owning a house only 2 days of the week. What if your phone only made calls part of the time? Would you consider it a complete phone?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yamaha_wins:
I agree with elliwigy. Root was achieved regardless if it's temp or perm. Focus isn't on getting root, it's all about disabling or bypassing WP now to make the achieved root method stick
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
its not the same at all lol. you can take the same root method that you claim isnt root and it roots other devices that stick after a reboot therefore its not the ROOT method as it works..

to tweak your analogy. lets say root is the driver (you) and device is the car.. you work the same in every vehicle but are limited to the car itself.. you have an old beater it might not drive right but if you jump in a race car it will be better..

therefore a proven root method works just fine and does its job but the device itself prevents the root from sticking after a reboot.. therefore its not the root its the phone.. to say that your device doesnt have root or hasnt been rooted is completely false.. its the actual device/WP you are fighting now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] scottjoshuac:
No one has posted a way for us to gain root access on Lollipop still. Many people would take temp root and I feel like you are completely overlooking that fact.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] eklipz3:
Obtaining Perma - Root Discussion lounge

Sent from my SM-N910V
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gatesjunior:
Ok, guys, we all want permanent root and no one likes temp root, so let's get passed all that. We are currently trying to bypass WP, this is true. So, let's quit bickering over what root means and focus on value added comments about bypassing WP.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Surge1223:
Also, just to end this discussion, since not many users understand the concept of root, root is just being able to execute as the root user. So as you can see from my screenshot below, as long as you can Switch User to 0 (root), you have root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] rmp5s:
Am I safe I'm assuming that installing the update that just downloaded would be an unwise decision with my future rootish aspirations?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
i would say so lol.. unless you are able to downgrade still
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Gordonson:
This is my biggest reason for desiring root as well. Would anyone be so kind as to test this?

I remember I rooted my S3, and later lost root somehow but Adaway's changes had stuck. If the same can be done on the Note 4, that would be lovely.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] graydiggy:
Oh my glob! Who cares?!

You guys are going to sit here and continue to argue it, yet do nothing for progress to gain perm or whatever.

Please just stop.

Root is allowing SU commands to be executed. Be they permanent or not, it is still able to be executed in some fashion.

I and other people are tired of this debate. Please either be a productive member in this or just be quiet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JOSHSKORN:
Hi...I'm a nobody here (I'm not a dev lol)....but here are my two cents...I might as well, right?

I agree with both sides. Root HAS been achieved, HOWEVER, the old infomercial of Ronco Rotisserie's catch phrase of "Set it and forget it" comes to mind. Does anyone REALLY want to have to keep messing with re-rooting or worrying about not rebooting their phone and use special apps to get around needing rebooting? No. So, I say root has "not really" been achieved. Once you can "set it and forget it", I'll consider root being achieved and I'll actually pay up on the bounty. KitKat, Lollipop, who cares...I don't. LP sucks anyway, the battery drain on my phone during the brief time I had it was awful. Anyway, I don't know about you guys/girls, but I don't want to end up playing a game of "Jenga" (figure of speech) or whatever everytime I want root.

But anyway, this argument is trivial. We need to somehow break write protection, which we all know. Thank you to anyone currently working on this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spk99:
This thread has inspired an idea for a reality TV show. Socially inept, sweaty, chubby, virgins fight over minutiae until the two most petty debaters duke it out in a tearful slap fight.

1 winner is crowned, 1 loser is shamed, all gently sob themselves to sleep as the pain of loneliness sets in.

Hmm. Maybe this is off topic. Sorry, that happens here.