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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] deputydog95:
There are 340 pages in this thread so it was a little overwhelming to review. I've had it with my edge at this point. It is so bogged down with bloatware and garbage... And I'm being overrun with ads on the web.

Based on the last two pages of this monster thread... Is it safe to say that there is no permanent root solution at this point?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DamnCampers:
Have you considered using Adblock Plus's modified Firefox broswer? It will do a decent job blocking ads without having root.

That is correct, there is currently no permanent root. There is a temp root method, but you still need to be on Kitkat for it to work. If you are on Lollipop then there is currently no root available.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] playerone_:
Absolutely zero progress, I'm keeping my note 4 because I know the minute I sell it that some breakthrough will happen and I will be pissed. I have started using a moto x pure edition and I absolutely love it. Also, NoChromo works excellent for blocking ads on Google chrome. Not sure of a download link, just Google search NoChromo.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] warriorpluto:
No breakthrough will happen. Development is dead for the Verizon note 4. Now we need to focus on getting sprint note 4 to work on Verizon
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] playerone_:
Has there ever been a truly (permanent) unrootable phone? I've googled it a little bit but really can't find the answer.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] borijess:
Yes
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
what phone is this you speak of?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] borijess:
The ATT Note 4:D:thumbup:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
lol...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] eklipz3:
To me that would be like saying the people that locked it down can't unlock it either and we know that's not true. ijs
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dieselbuddeh:
Yes but the people who did lock it will never release the sha-256 key needed to do so
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nemopsp:
I'll post this here...

http://www.xda-developers.com/a-look-at-marshmallow-root-verity-complications/

Hopefully for the future, this mean we might get a walk around since many devices are getting this dm-verity write protection.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Yahyoo:
Root still not working for note 4 5.1.1 ROM

i Tried many things to root my note 4 5.1.1 but no chances

all the root procedure what i found is killing my phone :(

hope kingoroot released the new root for 5.1.1 ROM :laugh:

all the best guys ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] note3palermo:
Listen. This phone WILL NEVER BE ROOTED. . WE have moved on. . To the next LINE of phones. . You should too. C'mon man
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Android.Ninja:
Actually, this phone has already been rooted. We have temp root for Kit Kat. As for permanent root, now that's another story. ?

Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!

If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button. *?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spexwood:
Yes, but that root is pretty much obsolete now since most people are on Lollipop.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nemopsp:
Well only cause most people chose to update to 5.0.1 or 5.1.1

Unlike me I'm still using the advantages of 4.4.4 temp root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] eklipz3:
dm-verity seems to me like a anti virus program without external interaction.

Sent from my SM-N910V
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Android.Ninja:
Provided they took the update. The people in question with root are not on lollipop. They are on Kit Kat.

Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!

If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button. *?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yemkoid:
Guys, Best of luck trying rooting this devil! I sold this to get SM-N910H which I update to 5.1.1 straight and got rooted easily
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JBlinky67:
I just want a Note 4 that I can root and use with at&t somehow.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jpinoy:
From looking at the specs, what made you choose to get that model over one that has LTE? SM-N910C? I'm looking to get rid of mine as well.. just grabbed it on an upgrade promo of $0, so figured I'll make some $$ off it as I already have a Moto X Pure(Style)... was gong to keep it a first and return the Moto, but then I realized, I miss the root features more than the Samsung features.. :laugh:

AT&T - SM-N910A

2.5G*(EDGE, GSM/GPRS ) MHz:850, 900, 1800, 1900*

3.5G*(HSPA+, UMTS/WCDMA ) MHz:850, 1900, 2100*

4G*(LTE ) Bands:2, 4, 5, 12, 17*

SM - N910C

2.5G*(EDGE, GSM/GPRS ) MHz:850, 900, 1800, 1900*

3.5G*(HSPA+, UMTS/WCDMA ) MHz:850, 900, 1900, 2100*

4G*(LTE ) Bands:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20*

SM-N910H

2.5G*(EDGE, GSM/GPRS ) MHz:850, 900, 1800, 1900*

3.5G*(HSPA+, UMTS/WCDMA ) MHz:850, 900, 1900, 2100*

I was actually thinking of getting the Tmobile Note 4 and using it on AT&T....

Tmobile Bands:

2G GSM : GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900

3G UMTS(WCDMA) : B1(2100), B2(1900), B4(AWS), B5(850)

4G LTE FDD : B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JBlinky67:
Thanks. I now have a new goal. The 910c.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jpinoy:
I would definitely check out the other Note 4 forums on xda and see which one(model) has the most MOD/ROMS/Support that interest you(and work on AT&T bands), and go from there. I only listed one of the models, as I was only interested in why yemkoid chose that particular model.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
Get any root while you can..Marshmallow will incorporate a stronger dm-verity on most phones and the motion to make modding illegal makes the future look dim for development.

So what you guys see here is just a glimpse of the future.

Nexus phones may become the only developer phones for the future...Google's plan from the start?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] trafalger888:
Quite possible. And a smart move if this is the case.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spexwood:
Illegal?!?! I'm totalling fighting this because if the government wants to tell me that I can't modify an electronic device to do what I want and I have to pay $800+ for it, then the stupid government better provide the phone to me for free. My money used= my device= I can do whatever the hell I want with it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] stealyourface1:
^^^ amen! ^^^
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
Yeah, I feel ya! But in this case as a communications device it falls under federal regulations...just like it is illegal to modify the IMEI number of a device you own. But please sign the petition listed in the article.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] AtlAndroid:
Go read the DMCA. If the code is "encrypted", decryption is illegal.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spexwood:
I can understand things like changing IMEI, serial number, and even phone number (even though that's a sim card thing and not phone). Heck, I can even understand unlocking Wifi tethering if your plan doesn't support it. But NO ONE should take away a customer's freedom to use a purchased device the way they wish to. If you were leasing a device, then sure, lock it down because the carrier will be taking it back after 2 years.

I think they should just lock the IMEI and stuff and Android should have a Super User mode that will simply root the phone for you. It can have a bunch of scary warning popups during the activation phase too... to deter average users who don't know what they're doing. LOL

BTW, I don't see a petition link in the article you linked to. :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
It is post 2 in the thread about modding becoming illegal.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] soraxd:
I don't believe changing IMEI numbers is illegal, assuming you're a US citizen (being in att forums and all). People on XDA say that a lot, but that's a law in the UK, not the US.

Do you know something to contest this? I'd love to debunk this.

As for that petition hell yeah I'm signing it!

http://fightthetpp.org
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Stryke_the_Orc:
Changing your IMEI is equivalent to cloning a device, which is a federal offense. Documentation to support this is all over the place, beginning with a senator from Connecticut. Google is your friend.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spexwood:
Which is why I don't give out the IMEI when I'm selling phones on Ebay. I'll note if the IMEI is black listed or something (mine are always in good standing though), but I don't post it because someone could take it and clone the phone, putting me and/or my buyer at risk.

EBay even suggested that I didn't do it after I called them once after a customer complained because I didn't give them the number.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
lol i understand your reasoning but i wouldnt buy from you then unless i can confirm the imei is clean myself.. i just dont trust ppl i dont know
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] soraxd:
ahh what a useful reference, so yeah, this verifies that IMEI changing is indeed legal in the US. There was a bill raised to make it illegal in 2011, which failed, and was revised again in 2013, and has yet to pass. thanks for mentioning the senator.

and the "equivalent to cloning" part gave me a good chuckle! I've got one, 'firing a gun is the equivalent to a bus shooting, which is a federal offense!'

here's the bill's government page for those curious

https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/1070
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Stryke_the_Orc:
Cool story bro. Read this.

https://www.fcc.gov/guides/cell-phone-fraud

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.3186.IS:

Slithering from the nether regions of a twisted mind and tarnished soul
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
lol in the 5 years working for a cellular company ive not heard one legitimate instance of cloning..

not saying it doesnt exist but surely itd be caught quickly and dealt with.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DamnCampers:
Funny thing about the second link in that it describes removing the identify information. When the galaxy s3 was rooted there was an initial issue that if you wiped the phone from recovery and had not done a backup of your information you could potentially wipe all that information out due to where it was stored on the phone. All that was required was one or two adb commands to back it up in the correct location, but due to people not reading there was at least a few dozen posts here on xda about people screwing up their phones because of it.

But back to the topic at hand, since patch 5.1.1 is there any devs openly talking dozen b out root methods? I know kitkat is the only version that has a temp root method so no need to bring that up as many of us should already be aware of that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] catfish39:
Well i managed to root verizons straight talk s3 sch-s968c with cm12 and worka fine i wonder if i can do the same with att note 4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Black89:
Back in the day we would write esn in Verizon phones via jag when I worked for a device design company. If you had two on at the same time they would disable one very quickly. We would have a handful of devices and just turn on the one we wanted to use that day. These phones didn't have Sims.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ccallen:
kingroot

Anyone else having trouble with kingroot failing recently? has almost become impossible to get it to work
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] geebdroid:
"Cool story bro. Read this.

https://www.fcc.gov/guides/cell-phone-fraud

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.3186.IS:

Slithering from the nether regions of a twisted mind and tarnished soul"

While I don't disagree, I would point out that the first link describes fraudulent use, not cloning among devices owned by the account holder (tho I may be splitting very fine hairs here) and the second link is to a bill that appears to have died in committee.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] xRuisuCepi:
try the pc app. it worked for me
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] vonerk:
Wow! Are you saying King root worked? That was so a couple months ago. Just saying. DO SOME RESEARCH!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ODSTZ3RO:
?He's suggesting to use king root on pc instead of on mobile not announcing temp root for the hundreth time.?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] xRuisuCepi:
Well, I was assuming whoever asked about kingroot was on KitKat 4.4.4 (Of course most people know [in this thread] that we only have temporary root in Note 4 who's running Kitkat). I tried to temporarily root my phone, and the latest version of KingRoot apk was failing. Woth that being said, I tried to use the desktop version, and Goodness gracious I was able to gain temporarily access root in my Note 4 running KitKat 4.4.4. I did not stay longer cause I just wanted to get the .cfg file to update from kitkat to Lollipop. Afterwards, I bid my goodbye to Kitkat. My apology if I WAS NOT ABLE to specify what I said. I'm sorry
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ODSTZ3RO:
I got what you meant the first time , there was no need to be anymore specific since I had already countered the misinterpretation. Anyways you guys should hangout in the off topic thread ,yes it does relate to root ,but there's also a specific thread for kingroot related questions and if you wanted to ask someone who uses the note 4 you could have done so in the off topic thread. It'd be wonderful if this thread would only have posts on root progress not posts such as this one ,even if there's no progress it's best to just leave it as it is until there one day there happens to be some actual progress. Either way it was nice of you to assist a fellow note 4 user.(please don't respond)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] machhho:
is there an progress or any news on the root of the At&t Note 4 Lollipop v5.1.1 !
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yamaha_wins:
Isn't going to happen.. even if it did it would be a temporary root. If they can't break wp why would they worry about rooting lollipop on the note 4. You might as well hope another device gets rooted lollipop and it works on the note 4. Marshmallow has more security features so that's probably never going to happen, if it did.. it will be patched before the update gets pushed to the note 4.. your best option for a device will be the nexus device's on black Friday.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spexwood:
I'd actually welcome temporary root for 5.1.1 as long as it didn't randomly disappear on its own. I wouldn't care about it disappearing after a reboot, but it'd just need to stay while the phone is on.

Of course, a full root would be 1000x better, but temp root is better than nothing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] eklipz3:
Someone posted root in verizon general on BOG5 5.0.1 not sure how real it is or if so if it's permanent, and I just let my note4 go a week ago. I know this is ATT but thought I would share.

Sent from my SM-G925V
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nemopsp:
Yea, I've seen it honestly I believe it's fake...

Could be just easily Photoshopped. plus it was post back in July 2015... and we are just now seeing it.

If it was real, it was SM-N910V Developer Edition.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JBlinky67:
What exactly does "temporary root" mean?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nemopsp:
Google the definition of temporary.

you should get your answer...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JBlinky67:
Then let me rephrase: What makes the root access stop?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nemopsp:
dm-verity or could be known as system write protection

http://source.android.com/devices/tech/security/verifiedboot/

http://www.xda-developers.com/a-look-at-marshmallow-root-verity-complications/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JBlinky67:
I'm obviously not asking this correctly since answer 1 was smart-assed and answer 2, while appreciated and thorough, was way over my head. I just want to know more about the temporary nature of the root is. Is it time? Meaning I have a certain number of minutes/seconds then access is "gone"? Or is it user-initiated like an app or feature or setting that triggers it back to stock?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nemopsp:
Yes it's timed... it's different everytime...

Kingroot to root 4.4.4 kitkat Note 4

It seems to freeze and hardboot it self, when you keep granting root access.

Use SuperSUme Pro found on Google play store. To get rid of Kingroot, and install SuperSU, but sometimes while I set up my apps it reboot, than other times I might go for 7 days without a reboot, tho root it lost within a few hours...

My opinion is use xposed and those features stick even after root is lost because it's running in background until next reboot. And SuperSUme tries to keep root now, which creates you to freeze more often. Reason cause the system will no matter what lose root, and the apps acts like you still have root. When you trying to grant permission. Freeze an Hardboot!

So I recommend a few xposed modules and use a wake blocker an disable SuperSUme, once root is lost within 30mins they you may remove the wake block. And then you have xposed enable, but no root access.

Apps like Adway, Viper4Android, Titanium Backup will work at first tho their files will get erased over time. And may cause you to freeze and hardboot.

Some people keep root for few days, but they don't install anything to system or write or move... if you don't change anything what's the point of having root. Cause most root apps need to write to system / install something. This is what will trigger the write protection. It notices the system been tampered with.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Ddjergins:
Not to be the jackass but that's the umpteen millionth time I've heard that phrase on hear like some of us take offense to the uninitiated saying we don't have root. It's pretty much uselless. What it amounts to is spending 65% of your time watching and waiting for the big fail then starting the process over( not to mention It's WP) . The developers on here and elsewhere have busted a$$ and spent no telling how many sleepless nights on this. I have no doubt that (well some doubt) that one of these incredibly talented guys will get it but if we had "root" then everyone wouldn't crap themselves when some smart ass with to much time and a YouTube account posts a video on a working method that is total BULL PUCKEY. Ok Eliwigy tear me up
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jcradio:
Malware that ROOTs your phone

http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/05/android-malware-roots-your-phone/

https://blog.lookout.com/blog/2015/11/04/trojanized-adware/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
So this means you guys are safe from this? :confused::eek:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] bobloblaw1:
Twist that knife, man.. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
/Me sorry :cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dergezero:
i was going to ask about this, but im sure this dsnt stop the DM-verity from resetting it every time you reboot. but if we can get this into an app, i'm sure it wouldn't be a hassle to use everything you reboot your phone. could i be wrong? would this be the new gingerbreak?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DamnCampers:
If you read both articles you will see that they make mention that the malicious apps make use of known root exploits. This leads me to believe that it would only give temp root for our devices like what is currently available for people still running Kitkat. The WP that our device has would wipe this out, but if you are experiencing random reboots like those that occur when temp root came out you might want to check where you are getting your apps thru as it seems so far to only effect third party app stores.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dergezero:
yeah, i read that, got excited and jumped the gun. :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] elliwigy:
haha thanks for giving me a shout out!

i for one agree the video must be bologne/gimmicks since hes afraid to post anything usefull or verifiable for perma root..

i also understand theres a dif between "root" & perma root
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Ddjergins:
Hey dude thanks for all the good info…. And not ripping me a new one. I myself am going to wait for the next iteration of Note or Edge and see what, developes with other OEM's. I will keep this Edge though I like the design, it works well and if perm root ever comes it will operate up to its potential.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] eric303:
Hey guys is there currently a root available for N910A on 4.4.4? I have searched high and low and cant find anything. King root does not work
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yamaha_wins:
Kingroot 4.0 works, it can be found on rootjunkysdl.com
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] machhho:
that is for kitkat temp root , we need a root for a 5.1.1 lollipop but thanks anyway
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yamaha_wins:
4.4.4 isn't kitkat? Isn't that what he asked for?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Gods Son:
I always wonder how many people on here are employed by AT&T and if these people on here are paid to go through these forums trying to see if anyone has figured out how to permanently root AT&T'S version of the Galaxy Note 4? I'm sure they're here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] KennyG123:
They're ALWAYS watching!!!!

(Your instincts are more than likely correct BTW)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Gods Son:
I really do hate that **** of a CEO @ AT&T.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] fbauto1:
This thread had become useless because of useless posts.

Unsubscribed
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] yamaha_wins:
Thank you for adding another useless post for me to get a notification about..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jpinoy:
Buy yet, people complaining about useless post are posting.... Wait for it... Useless post... The irony..... change your notification to weekly.. Monthly.. Unsubscribe.... Or... Post something useless about other people posting useless info... So everyone can get notifications about your useless post... Lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DamnCampers:
http://hothardware.com/news/vicious-chrome-javascript-v8-exploit-leaves-all-android-devices-ripe-for-attack

I wonder how useful this would be since the bug has not been disclosed. I'm wondering if it is giving elavated permissions since it is allowing the installation of apps without user interaction.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Kyuta Syuko:
Might provide a method to temp root even 5.1.1, but I don't see how it would be able to bypass write-protect.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] soraxd:
just gonna light a small fire here.

http://www.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5-bootloader-has-been-unlocked/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] warriorpluto:
Useless story because author of exploit will sit on it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nemopsp:
I'm just gunna post this here...

https://youtu.be/kHQWPg_TNeY
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] 666syco:
Don't by in to it all be warned he pulled this crap with Verizon it will hurt his shop over seas if he shares with the USA so in order to get root got to fly over to Korea pay the A $$ clown to root your phone. If he even really did it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] murf1972:
Rooting for 5.1.1 with OI2 is not available yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nemopsp:
Yes I know, I'm not buying into anything just now he showing a N910A, which thought it was interesting.... to start some fire

Wish a developer would jump on this a create us a root...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] 666syco:
I know what you mean I wish we could all get some love/full root for our note 4. But it's looking more and more everyday to be just wishful thinking. Some day when this bad boy is so outdated it will happen of course by then the new note 27 will be available and who knows that might come with root. Ya ok lol more wishful thinking.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nemopsp:
Well I know we have the exploits to root... Just a lot people see the write protection an seem to stop from there...

The original idea of using kingroot to get around the write protection obviously is not going to work... But no developer before than or after has made a root...

Makes me question the developers that was working on root, they do not have the proper knowledge to create it...

It would be lovely if the Galaxy S5 bootloader unlock worked for Our Note 4 too... Tho that is just beyond dreaming... Plus they seem to not plan on releasing it anyways.

My note 4 is staying on 4.4.4 NK3 KitKat and I'm just waiting for the day... I can update to 5.0.1 OC2/ OC4 anytime...