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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] abubasim:
Brickmaker

I managed to brick my JASJAM using this procedure. I tried to install i-mate's Arabic ROM. The phone died in the middle of the upgrade. Had to remove and reinsert battery to bring up the phone. (Note that battery still had plenty of power left so the death was not due to power loss.) Now the phone shows "No GSM" and hangs on the Windows logo. SPL is 1.06. ROM reload shows "Invalid vender" for all ROMs I've tried, and I guess that makes sense, since the radio is broken and CID cannot be determined! (SuperCID is only "super" with a functioning radio...)

I handed in the phone to my dealer for repair. This will probably not be covered by warranty so a costly main board replacement seems likely.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Izzard-UK:
abubasim: you're not *saying* that you think the phone is bricked because of this method, but if you *do* think that, I'd like to suggest the method was not the problem. In my (humble) opinion, you used a bad ROM: either a ROM that was plain wrong for your phone or a corrupted one. Alternatively, maybe you didn't format your storage card as FAT32 first and tried to flash from storage card with other files on there.

(I say this because when I first tried this method, I added the HERMESIMG.nbh file to a half-full storage card and it did not work. The second time I tried it did not work either because I had transferred the file via Bluetooth and, for whatever reason, the file was not accepted by the bootloader. In the end I uploaded and then downloaded it direct to the phone, onto a freshly-formatted card via FTP with a Pocket PC FTP client - and that worked perfectly.)

I don't see how this method is more likely to brick your phone than using the RUU on Windows. But then maybe I'm just being defensive :P
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] abubasim:
I do not think the procedure as such is to blame. I suspect that the drivers for microSD cards are a bit flakey. The RUU method is more "popular" so the USB support gets a more thorough thrashing.

Just some facts about how I managed to brick my phone:

- The phone was SuperCID, at the time with SPL 1.06.

- The microSD card, a Kingston 512MB, was formatted as a FAT32 filesystem.

- There was only file on the card; the file hermimg_CDLME_1.20.305.3_1.20.304.104_Ship.nbh extracted from i-mate's Arabic ROM JASJAM_Arabic_1.20.305.3_1.20.304.104_1.07.03.10_ship as downloaded from i-mate's FTP site. The file was renamed HERMIMG.nbh.

- I have flashed the phone with same image the traditional way, i.e. via USB cable, before so I know the ROM file itself is good.

Edit: once the phone is back with me I'll do some checking of the card I used.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Izzard-UK:
Hmm, could be that. You've just reminded me that I did carry out another step before my successful flash: I used "Storage Tools" to scan/verify the integrity of the card and I had "fix errors" ticked. That might have helped, too.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mightyeric:
I just tried this method to upgrade my radio rom since RUU updates won't work on vista (at least not for me). It worked perfectly! Now I have radio 1.38.00.11. Yay!

Thanks Pof!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Izzard-UK:
..............

Oi!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mightyeric:
D'OH ! ! !

My bad.

THANKS IZZARD-UK ! ! ! !
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] PPC-Warrior:
HELP PLS! I've done extensive readings but still no luck trying to upgrade with SD or USB...

If i use USB, I get error 262 no matter how many times i reinstall activesync, hardreset and etc.

I tried this method and when I run the exe, it loads the bootloader but it doesn't seem to ask me anything and stays there. I am 100% sure that the file is renamed properly. What has gone wrong? something wrong with my device?

I just can't update! Please give me some directions. Really appreciate it!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] PPC-Warrior:
UPGRADE SUCCESSFUL!

After Trying for a FULL day. I finally updated the ROM by using the SSPL-HERM.zip from the Hermes SD ROM Update thread (do a search), I was NOT able to update it from the SD card itself but the bootloader from the file worked with my USB update!

Hurray!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] MWillis561:
No SD Card

I was just wondering (I am thinking about trying this) if anybody has encountered any problems with the SD card dissapearing problem. On my phone, both with WM5 and WM6 I have had problems with the SD Card dissapearing from File Explorer. This is at totally random times but can happen a couple of times a week. It seems like if the phone was going through the upgrade and all of a sudden my SD Card dissapears that could cause a phone to crash. Let me know if you have any input on that. Thanks.

BTW: Maybe that is what could of caused the random shut down with abubasim's upgrade. Just a thought.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rallyup2000:
:) yes you can rename the file hermimg.nbh it work for me
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] schriss:
Since my Hemes couldn't connect via USB (stupid unrecognized device error) I tried this method.

First: SSPL-HERM.exe froze on tri color screen.

So I entered bootloader manually and it worked. (I had hard spl v7 or something like that).

Oh, I didn't format my card, I just copied .nbh with card reader as it's most reliable method. Seems like bootloader is just looking for HERMIMG.nbh file in storage card root dir.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] david06:
I am trying to follow this procedure in order to flash the new official Cingular ROM onto my 8525 (I have a Mac and would prefer to do the flash from the card)

When I execute the EXE on my phone the device reboots into the tricolor screen and displays HERM100 IPL-SSPL by Des / HERM 100 SPL -1.09.ds in the red area and "Serial" in the bottom white part of the screen. The phone is plugged into power when I am doing this. It never mentions the upgrade and sits there until I soft reset with the stylus. Any suggestions/clue what's going on?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] xdaking:
Flash the sim unlock from SD card

Hi,

Can i Flash pof sim unlock rom from SD card??

I have Radio_.nbf file which i have extracted from HTC_Hermes_Radio_for_SIMunlock_v1.16.00.69, can this be converted into .nbh file??

i have this Herm with faulty usb connector and need to unlock.

many thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] xdaking:
Hi,

Actulay Pof V.3a sim unlock for herm comes with radio_.nbh file. but i couldnt flash it from storage card.

i've renamed the HermesUnlocker_HardSPL.nbh in to HERMIMG.nbh and copied to main root on sd card. and i run the SSPL on my device and it comes to bootloader but flashing not happening.

wot i am doing wrong????

Please help
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] xdaking:
sucessfuly unlocked HERM wihout PC and Cable

i am very very happy :) :) thanks Pof and izzard-uk franjoe1985

i think i am the first to unlock HERM without PC and Cable :) :)

Many many thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pof:
No, u're not... probably u're the second ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] terry_cheong:
Thank you for your sharing.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] schriss:
I am now flashing any new ROM that comes out from storage card, I just copy ROM to SD, rename to HERMIMG.nbh, reset with stylus to get into tr-color and that's it. It's also extremely fast, like 2-3 minutes.

Anyway, how to flash other things with tri-color bootloader?

For example Radio only or just splash screens?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] xdaking:
Many thanks for your Kooool HERM unlock pof.

Thanks again
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] dny238:
Having the same problem... did you figure out how to get this to work?

Rob

PS. Here's what I've got/done.

HERM100

IPL-1.01

HERM100

SPL-1.40.Olipro

1) Formatted the card with "Storage Tools"

2) Copied over a "RUU_signed.nbh" from a ROM package

3) Renamed it HERMIMG.nbh

4) Rebooted it with the right buttons held down. Tricolored logo. Serial at the bottom. Nothing else. Just sits there.

5) Also tried out the SSPL-HERM. Same results.

TIA!

Rob
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] walshieau:
was the file allocation table FAT16 or FAT32 on your SD card?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] papamopps:
Hi, i have a bricked Herald and read this thread.

SO i tried the same - but without the .exe on my device because :) its bricked.

AND the bootloader searches for the nbh - i named it HERAIMG.nbh (another name is not recocgnised).

The screen stucks 5sec on "Process bar" and "Checking SD content" and then goes back to bootloader.

When i take a self generated nbh - i get an Error "wrong certificate" - so the nbh on SDcard is recognized - but nothing is flashed.

Any suggestions??

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1284636#post1284636

Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] schriss:
I hold down both: left OK and right power - then soft reset, it goes into tri color and asks if I want to upgrade.

I do not format my 1GB card, I just put the ROM file there. I keep my "Install" filder with all my CABs so after I upgrade I'm ready to install everything from storage, no need for PC at that time.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] papamopps:
BUT you have run teh .exe before on your device??

I cannot run this - because it stuck on bootloader.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] schriss:
I don't run exe on device because it would get into tri color and stuck there.

I press the buttons and soft reset to get into tri color and upgrade works then.

I have some version of Hard-SPL flashed, it may be important or not, I don't know...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kenm47:
Rom flash from storage card (MAC OSX)

so heres the deal. I tired this and it didn't work. so i went out and bought a card reader (normally i just transfer files through bluetooth file exchange on my macbook).

in disk utility you can format the storage card to MS-DOS format, which is fat 16 until osx v 10.3.4, after that its fat32... so on mine its fat 32

so then i can move stuff back over, (my backed up files), and hopefully this whole process will work slick as snot.

still having not sprung for any syncing software with my hermes has been exciting... had to borrow a friends computer to do the original flash because I bought the softbank, and it was in chinese....

-PIECE. hope this helps.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mlalahoi:
Can I use this method to flash Hard-SP-v7?

Noob question retracted, found the answer finally with a google search. Sorry, not sure how I missed it before, maybe just too many straight hours of going over the wealth of info here. Thanks to all for such great work!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Killbillprime:
Hey guys big thanks to all esply- IZZARD

iv flashed more then a few tytns with this in total 12 and only 1 got bricked ( BY NO MEANS THE FAULT OF THIS METHOD!!!)_

anyway big thanks

iv got a question thats not tytn releated have any of you guys tried this method with any other device such as the universal ,

i understand for the tytan we have to rename Rename the WM6 .nbh file to HERMIMG.nbh

what would we rename the universal version ????

any thoughts?

appericate it

p.s or is it the only reason this is working is because we have POFS SSPL program? and this will only work from that and not universals bootloader.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] adad:
I want to know too. If I want to upgrade my Universals to WM6 with this method, what should I rename the nbh file to ???
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] luria:
I have been trying this for weeks with no sucess and can't figure it out. Seems that others have had the same trouble and either figured it out or died quietly clutching their tri-colored 8525. I have formated my sd card using disk tools, placed the file that I have renamed HERMIMG.nbh onto the otherwise empty card and placed it in the phone. I have tried rebooting into bootloader both manually and using that funky SPPL-HERM thang and all I get is the triband screen looking back at me. I swear that its chuckling too.

Anybody have some advice (no, I'm not buying a windows computer).

Thanks;

Stephan Howard-Cooper
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Killbillprime:
LURIA hi mate

do you get any splashscreen at all (does it even turn green for a few seconds?)

when your formating the card are your doing it in FAT13 or 16 or any other format or what options are you selecting?

dude when you enter SPPL mode (holding the OK button< on the left hand side, the power button and then pressing the soft rest) you should get the tri colours > but then does it even for a brife second flash to a grey screen?

if all that does not work , may be your memory cards are fault??? try borrowing someones elses?

all the best.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] luria:
Thanks so much for the reply.

When I enter the bootlog screen it just stays tri-colour; no flash brier or otherwise of anything else. I formatted the sd card using DiskUtility that comes with the Mac (computer not raincoat ) and formated the card first 16 fat and then Dos format. Didn't seem to make any difference. The card seems fine otherwise; I intall all my cabs from it without hitch. So, don't imagine that it is a bum card but will do a swap if need be.

This is driving me mad! Never had any problems with Mac and palm/treo hacking and such. Oi this learining curve!!

Crossed hammers!

Stephan Howard-Cooper
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] xdaking:
your problem is very easy to solve

rename the right flash file RUU_signed.nbh (83,926KB)

switch on the device with WM5 and just run the SSPL-HERM

make sure the battery is fully charged

thats all

Enjoy
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] leglez:
I have an HTC TyTn (Cingular 8525) I am in the process of upgrading to WM6 It got to the screen where it says update in progress and has the loading bar. The loading bar finally got to the end after about 5 minutes but it still says Update in Progress. What should I do?

hmm well I went ahead and soft reset it. It booted up into WM6 fine, but then I was in the process of setting it up and I went to put my email address in and it said something about customizing the phone and then it turned off and back on and now it is stuck on the bootscreen. It shows the HTC startup image and then below it it says:

M 05 R 1.40.30.00

S 04 G 32.73.7020.16H

N 06 D 3.57
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] vin-saint:
Would this work on a wizard?

Whould this work on a wizard? and what file name should i rename the WM6.nbh to?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] GreatGrey:
Nevermind,

I didn't read enough.

damn eyes.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] GreatGrey:
Patience is your friend.

Hard reset the device, and then wait. Do all the screen alignment BS, skip all that you need to on the original setup, and when it boots.... wait again.

Let the extended roms load, and the device should reboot again.

Again, patience.

Then , and finally then, start entering data.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] AZGhosthawk:
OMGOMGOGMOGMOGM DUDE THAT TOTALLY FIXED MY USB PROBLEM

OK LISTEN UP PEOPLE.

If you were getting that 262 error in windows or your computer wasnt detecting your USB after your phone Bricked try this.

I HIT LEFT OK, AND RIGHT POWER, AND when the RED green and blue screen pops up, PLUG IN THE USB and BAM it should work, but if you go back to the other screen ( THE SCREEN YOU BRICK AT) the usb wont work... took me all day to figure this out and it just saved my ass 500 bucks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Wantoknow:
I think this is another solution to unbrick our Hermes if it still get bootloader screen (tri-color screen), and a method to upgrade anything (SPL/GSM/OS/Splash Image) into Hermes without Windows2000/XP PC. For me, I had got ERROR 262/302 when were using CustomRUU (see my post here), then I can change ROM in using this method.

I had tested flashing Splash only, OS only, Radio only without SSPL :eek:, because my X01HT is using HardSPL V7. I believe Olipro's said "HardSPL Not Brick Your PDA Ever Again And Fix Bad Blocks" :D. SPL and Extension ROM has not been tested yet :p, because I don't wanna change them and they suitable and safe for my X01HT.

After testing flash by MircroSD Card without SSPL, my device can not upgrade against CustomRUU anymore :mad:, and that why I have to use microSD method upto now!

But I don't wanna use this method forever, I am managing to take my device can flash again by RUU as normally. I am suggested by my friend that unclockCID again, it maybe use RUU.

@xdaking: can you instruct me and all xda's members here your way to unlockCID under microSD, that I try it!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] benace:
can you use the OK/PWR method of getting into the bootloader to upgrade the OS from a MicroSD card? or do you have to d/l the sppl to the phone and run it from in WM5?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Wantoknow:
My device is SuperCID but I always use SSPL to get bootloader when flashing some things in two cases: by CustomRUU (previous) and by Memory card (now) :rolleyes:

You can run SSPL base on WM5 and WM6. That's OK!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] benace:
wow ok... so i'm def a n00b with baking, cooking, flash frying, and whatever else we do with ROMs.

was that a "yes you can flash the rom using the OK/pwr method" or a "no its not a good idea to do that. stick to the directions and shut up"

:)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] coeeconomou:
Yes

Yes you can flash by booting into bootloader mode by holding OK and PWR and simultaneously resetting with a ROM .NBH file on the MicrosSD card just like it says in this thread. You don't even need to clear off the card like some suggest. Works great. Safe and reliable. Perhaps the best method for flashing. Just don't do it with a low battery.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] benace:
any reason not to do this while plugged into the a/c outlet? seems like a no-brainer to me.... ? thanks for the help!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] coeeconomou:
That'll work...

good plan...plug it on in and flash that ROM!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] benace:
did you ever get past this?? i'm having the same problem. tried naming it HERMIMG.nbh, hermimg.nbh, RUU_signed.nbh - all on a 2gb card formatted with FAT16 and FAT32. nothing works.

most of the times I try this with FAT32, i get the tricolor, then it says "loading", and after 3-7 seconds it just comes back to the tri-color screen and sits there. occasionally it will flash loading for 1/2sec, and occasionally it will not show loading at all. very occasionally it will say loading, then display some red numbers at the top, then return to the tri-color screen. AGH!

i guess i could try to find a smaller microSD card? any other thoughts??:confused:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] schriss:
My card is 2GB and upgrade works.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] LandyMan:
I managed to brick my TyTN this morning while flashing the 1.54.07.00 radio ... files are on the Micro SD as per this thread, but it is still stuck on the tri-colour screen :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mthomas:
a couple of questions

1. how do you find out what format sd card is? Is 32 fat necessary for flash from card.

2. is sspl necessary, I have hardspl on device already.

3. Can you flash radio as well with this method?

4. Can one use pocket rar to unzip files directly on device, and rename file with total commander. ie can this process be done with no other computer than the wm device.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] fylim:
Can I install HardSPL V7 2.10 using this method ? I am on WM6 already. Will installing the HardSPL hard reset the phone ? Thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] newbian:
where to get the WM^.nmh

hi! was wonder where i can get the "WM6.nbh" file to rename it to "HERMIMG.nbh" .................... the only .nbh file I saw when I opened the "RUU_Hermes_DOPODASIA_WWE_3.54.707.3_6275_1.47.00. 10_108_Ship.exe" with Winrar was "SPL.nmh" Thanks for your assistance..... This is my only option to upgrade to WM6 since there is a problem with my phones mini USB port, preventing me from attaching the USB cable. :confused:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] lagoskon:
You are just 1 step from your goal.

Unrar again the RUU_Inside.exe and then you will have the RUU_Signed.nbh which is the nbh you have to rename. Hope I helped you
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] newbian:
wow!

Rally?!?!?! WOW! I'll try that... OK... I officially love this site! I guess I'll just have to wait for my computer to finish copying the files from my phones Storage Device... It's been copying for over 2 hours now. BT transfer seems much slower... :) BTW, I hope it wont matter is my phones IPL is 1.01 | SPL: 1.04 .......... :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] newbian:
SSPL Question

regarding the SSPL instruction: according to the readme file: " *** Usage ***

For flashing ROM copy sspl-XXXX.exe (XXXX stands for short device platform name

i.e. TRIN for HTC Trinity) to your device and run it. Standart bootloader prompt should appear on screen, ..."

--- is sspl-HERM compatible with my HTC tytn?

"....check SPL version number: if it ends with ".ds" then

everything is fine...."

------ If my SPL is just 1.04, without the .ds , what should i do then? :)

(Re)attach usb cable and run firmware update utility.

".....In case if something goes wrong during flashing you should flash your device with ROM accepted by standard bootloader (and have another try if you wish)."

------ what does that last statement mean? :confused:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] fylim:
Can someone help me with this question ?

Can I install HardSPL V7 2.10 using this upgrade without PC method ? I am on WM6 already but was thinking of making it more brickproof so that I can try customroms.

Will installing the HardSPL hard reset the phone ? Thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] themilkman:
XDA-Live? where do i get it from?

hello there...

i am trying to do what you did and i cant seem to be able to figure it out.. i downloaded vp3G's WM6 v3.62 AT&T ROM Makeover but i can seem to figure out what XDA-Live is and how i can use it to extract the .nbh file out. i have limited access to a pc (i'm surrounded by mac people, and also a mac user) and might be able to do it.

btw, the archice that is provided by vp3G contains the following items: RUU_signed.nbh and RUUWrapper.exe

is the actual ROM contained in the nbh file?

thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] todd_jg:
Yes, the ruu_signed.nbh is the ROM file.

btw: I use a 15" MacBook Pro with paralells to do all my flashing!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] themilkman:
It Worked!!! Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah!!!!!

It worked.. so here is what i did...

1. formatted mt CF card with Flash Format (its shareware, but you can use it for 10 days, and you only need it for 10 minutes)

2. copied the ROM to the CF and renamed it to HERMIMG.hbn.. in my case it was vp3g's. To do this i unRAR-ed the file from his link and renamed RUU_signed.nbh to HERMIMG.hbn and then copied it to thte frshly formatted CF card with a card copier.

3. i copied Des' SSPL program in My Documents on the phone.

4. i crossed my finger and ran: SSPL-HERM.exe

thats all... it went into the flash screen.. and so it worked... :D:D:D

thanks for the help to Izzard_UK and todd_jg