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[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
did anyone try the test build of 01/18/2016?

No problem?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] vandyswa:
New Nexus 5 here, I installed 2.5--was Test the better choice?

All is well on 2.5; two system restarts but otherwise works well. I guess

I should see a new OTA tomorrow.

One question; Alastor Wu at Mozilla says he fixed the background audio

playing for web in 2.5, bug 1190434. Audio still halts on change of tabs or

screen off for me. I see the commit in Mozilla's github, but it still bites me

here. Should Vosky's 2.5 build reflect all Mozilla commits to 2.5?

If Test is the place to be, I can reflash. All I need is a phone which is useful

75% of the time or better.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] eyoome:
Hi [MENTION=5359018]vandyswa[/MENTION],

The thing is, we have some trouble with OTA and since 2.2 it doesn't work... :(

Regarding your issue, music works correctly for me on 2.6 (and on Sony Z3c...), I can't test on N5 for now.

So I suggest you to try on 2.6 :)

So choose between 2.6 and 2.6-test (with Spark apps )

[MENTION=6529645]Thatoo[/MENTION]

I don't use the nightly 2.6 on Nexus5, so I can't really help you there sorry...I don't remember; why don't you do recovery backups and try whatever versions you want?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] vandyswa:
Attached is what the Mozilla build guy said about Vosker's 2.5 build.

I'm wondering if we can get that build tweaked to line up with the

Mozilla builds/commits?

(I'm actually blown away at how helpful the Mozilla folks have been.)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] shoT.:
Tested, this rom is little laggy, sometime i need to click 2x to open some app or settings, reboot is very fast...
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Vosky:
Hi,

In the script there is :

BRANCH="${branche}" ./config.sh "${device}"

and $branche = version number (master, v2.5, v2.2, ...)

I know there are no officialy "aurora" and "beta" branches.

I added this to automatically push latest and latest-1 versions with FOTA.

Exemple : If you flash v2.5 and tomorrow v2.6 is released, you will not have to flash it manually, it will push via FOTA (when FOTA will work...)

"canal" is only used by FOTA.

And I use it in the script because it is suggested on Mozilla's Wiki.

So v2.5 use source code published at "Date added" column (minus compilation time ~40 minutes).

If you have an issue with latest v2.5, I suggest you to try next build, thuesday.

Did you try Nightly version ? the last time I flashed it, it was mostly as stable as v2.5 and less laggy.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
Bon ben comme ça les choses sont plus clair : http://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/firefox-os-apres-mai-2016-ce-sera-termine-39832358.htm

Triste est vraiment désolé que Mozilla termine cette aventure prématurément.

Vous continuez jusqu'à la version stable 2.6? jusqu'à Mai?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] eyoome:
Oui, on finit par avoir des réponses, mieux vaut tard que jamais -_-...

Je suis d'accord avec toi, c'est triste, alors qu'il y avait vraiment des projets très intéressants dans les cartons.

Pour te faire rager et pour partager ma frustration, ils avaient comme projet de baser FirefoxOS sur Cyanogenmod, au lieu d 'AOSP. Cela avait pour but de rendre TOUS les portables compatibles avec Cyanogenmod compatibles aisément avec FirefoxOS.

Deuxièment projet, c'était de pouvoir compiler une version de FirefoxOS sans la partie propriétaire, le partage était alors complètement légale (contrairement à ce que l'on fait en fait actuellement, et oui, on est des hors la loi xD)

Troisième projet, c'était de construire un plugin pour Firefox desktop pour pouvoir flasher son téléphone, via Firefox desktop. Ca rend le flash d'un téléphone bien plus agréable et bien plus simple, et le plugin devait se charger aussi de charger toute la partie propriétaire du smartphone...

On avait là un trio gagnant pour proposer FirefoxOS à qui veut et facilement....

Un autre projet qui me vient à l'esprit est le projet Alopex, pour revoir visuellement et comportalement les applications core de FirefoxOS....

Bordel, que va devenir tout ça ?

J'espère que ce travail sera repris par des gens....

Je sais pas ce qu'on va faire avec Vosky pour la rom du N5....
[Nexus 5 Android Development] eyoome:
https://twitter.com/vcasse/status/695513896879288320

action -> reaction
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
grrrr eyoome, tu me fais rager encore plus...

un article qui reflétait bien ma frustation et mon désarroi : https://actualite.housseniawriting.com/technologie/2016/02/06/firefox-os-une-mort-prematuree/13306/

Mais là avec tout ce que tu me racontes, je trouve ça encore plus stupide et désolant.

Alors que je ne me suis pas autant investit que vous, je n'ose imaginer combien vous devez être frustré, mais quelque part, je me sens un peu trahi... retour de bâton d'une confiance offerte.

Le twitt fait plaisir. Merci Vincent Cassé.

Aller, on y croit!
[Nexus 5 Android Development] eyoome:
Je suis frustré et déçu oui, mais j'en veux pas spécialement à Mozilla. Ils ont essayé de faire un OS pour smartphone, hé, combien ont essayé ? Combien ont réussi ?

Ce qui m'ennuie plus c'est que je pense qu'ils on'nt pas vraiment réussi à émuler plus la communauté. Ils ont vraiment essayé qu'à la fin avec le foxfooding et le site Hub, mais ils n'ont pas vraiment laissé le temps que ça prenne.

Je pense que les devs de FxOS et les devs du Marketplace doivent être bien plus frustrés que nous, ce n'est pas leur décision hein...

Et ce qui m'ennuie encore plus c'est que les gens semblent se satisfaire de la situation actuelle, et ne voient pas de problème au duopole Android/iOS(/WindowsPhone). Ca, on pourra faire tout ce qu'on voudra, tant qu'il n'y aura pas de véritable demande, on pourra pas faire grand chose....

J'espère que toute cette frustration débouchera sur un projet commun et fédérateur. FxOS est libre, il peut être repris par qui veut.

Dernière chose, je souhaite vraiment que Mozilla réussisse sur leur projet d'OS pour objets connectés. Mais il faut ABSOLUMENT qu'ils aient une vrai roadmap avec un plan clair, et qu'ils communiquent CLAIREMENT dessus.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
oups doublon...

Problème de VPN :)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] vandyswa:
So... is there any chance of a community to keep FxOS in some form going?

In a way it might enable some important steps forward--for instance, it's hard to

believe at top-of-trunk of a 2.X release the calendar app still doesn't have repeating

events. Or any fundamental way to maintain presence. Or password form

completion. (Thank God we now have cut/paste and a way to use the web page

controls without scrolling all the way back to the top!) Is there any possibility that

Mozilla let "perfect" get in the way of "good enough", and that the community

could possibly keep this software base from fading away?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] eyoome:
Hi [MENTION=5359018]vandyswa[/MENTION],

In resume, I don't know :).

All I know right now is, there are some people who would like to fork FxOS. I don't know if this motivation will stay and I don't know yet what they would like to do.

I will try to keep you informed as well as I can.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] vandyswa:
Is there any easy way to grab the binary blobs off my phone

for a FxOS build? I want to try my hand at some changes, but

it'd be much easier to use a Xen instance at my cloud provider.

Obviously, tethering my phone with USB during the build process

isn't an option! So how would I grab bits to keep the build

happy?

Thanks... Andy
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
End fait après toutes ces précisions , je comprends encore moins cet arrêt prématuré. Une fois le trio gagnant développé et avec un peu plus de temps passé main dans la main avec la communauté , j'aurais compris qu'il s'en détache petit à petit pour se consacrer à autre chose, le dev de FFOS aidant en amont celui des objects connectés.

Souhaitons qu'ils aient une vision long terme plus clair que la notre.

En ce qui me concerne, je vous suivrai jusqu'à la fin, que ce soit cet été ou plus tard si une communauté reprend le flambeau.

Bonne journée .
[Nexus 5 Android Development] eyoome:
I'm not sure to understand what you mean. :p

I don't know if it responds to your question but you can build a FxOS rom without binaries blobs with this command-line:

./build.sh blobfree

Here the wiki.

Hoping it helps.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] vandyswa:
Thank you. However, as somebody perfectly comfortable with moving files

around, I was hoping to avoid building a new Firefox extension *and* setting

up a new profile *and* (trying to) disable signatures *and* then hoping this

all comes together *and* trying to debug this experimental tool when it

inevitably doesn't.

So if somebody can tell me which files on the device I should pull out,

and where in the build tree I could stuff them, that would probaby be a

10 minute task instead of something which could take days--if it ever worked

at all!

(BTW, my first "toy" task once I get a usable build is to try and get the Nexus 5

light to blink when there are notifications.)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] eyoome:
So I don't know.

You should try to ask on IRC channel:

network: irc.mozilla.org

channel: #fxos or #developers
[Nexus 5 Android Development] vandyswa:
Thank you! I didn't know about that. :)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
Firefox OS isn't dead, let's work on his rebirth :

https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/firefoxos_is_not_dead
[Nexus 5 Android Development] fash99:
I tried it and it's good. I wish the project is kept alive and go further,

Thanks a lot!!!
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
Does anyone knows that http://maruos.com ?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] eyoome:
I heard about it, but I have never tried.

You?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Vosky:
Hi,

Sadly, Mozilla just say few days ago that they will stop this project.

I will continue to build it until the end.

A group will try to fork Firefox OS and continue the project.

If their fork work we will switch to it.

Here is the fork description : https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/firefoxos_is_not_dead

Thanks [MENTION=4660694]eyome[/MENTION] for the link.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mchlbenner:
I have sign up for this I also have made contact with them and yes android apps work on this.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] vandyswa:
I see your hosting site is down right now. Are you OK there, or do you

need some help?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Vosky:
Thanks for your support, but it is up now. ;)

It is the main drawback of the new server : When it crash, I have to physically reboot it and it is far from home.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] vandyswa:
Good news. :) Don't be shy if it gets to be too much bother; there are

many of us who can help by supplying servers which stay up (or can be

brought back without you having to drive anywhere).

Also... FWIW, 2/22 nightly boots but volume button blanks rest of screen,

and orientation shift when viewing web pages is locked (even though config

isn't locked). 1/23 is my working, stable version. I'll try again in a week or

so.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Vosky:
Good to know.

It would be hard to export build system, because it's heavy (215 GB) and delicate.

Mozilla's scripts need specific packages versions.

But we could make backup website.

If you have server with Apache/Nginx and ~8GB free space we can make deal. :highfive:

Let's continue this in PM.

We are not developers, so we can not fix this kind of issue...

I suggest you to post it on Bugzilla.

I does not see recent bug report for this issue.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] vandyswa:
Built for myself from two nights ago, so might be relevant to any other would-be users

of nightlies. Marketplace has the "My Apps" button disabled. Orientation changes are

back to working, but volume control still blacks the rest of the screen. And I couldn't

get WebIDE to connect to the device--a total non-starter here. So back to my January Vosky build for now.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] fash99:
Something is wrong with the latest nightly (ffos-master-2016-02-26-hammerhead-recovery.zip), i have a bootloop
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
email from Alexandre Lissy on the dev-fxos mailing list :

As you may know, one big pain point of B2G has been related to

distributing ready-to-flash builds. To make a long story short, this is

a legal nightmare. In order to avoid this nightmare, I have been working

along with a couple of people on a solution which we call a "blob-free

build" [1]. Basically, this is a full system build where we remove the

proprietary components and just instruct folks on where to get them.

This means we need a device to be already ported (i.e., have a config.sh

entry) *and* we need someone to add support for producing a blob-free

image, because it is disabled by default. Doing so is documented [2].

Installation steps are documented on [3] and the use of the addon, while

expected to be easy as plug & play, is detailed on [4]. Essentially, all

you need is:

- a supported device

- a firefox nightly with a dedicated profile

- install b2g installer addon and adb helper

- plug your device and flash it

- if you are running linux, you might have to configure udev rules

Right now, only OSX and Linux are supported. A virtual machine is also

available in a ready-to-use state if your platform is not supported or

if you are having issues.

We are collecting some data, on an opt-in basis. Those data are

documented on MDN and they will be useful to assess the usefulness of

the addon itself, and help focus contributions for new devices to

support. I can only encourage you to opt-in .

Please keep in mind the focus for this release is on the "flash from

Android to B2G” use-case. Being able to *update* a device /might/

work, but making sure we have a good user story for this will require

that someone step up and do this, as my focus will shift. I will however

remain available to help anyone willing to hack and to review changes.

Some of the devices we support includes:

- Sony Xperia Z3 and Z3 Compact with Kitkat base

- T2M Flame with Kitkat base

- LG Nexus 4 on Kitkat base

- LG Nexus 5 on Lollipop base

- Wileyfox Swift on Lollipop CyanogenMod base, from contributor

We have some very soon-to-be released support also for Fairphone 2

(Lollipop base).

Any contribution towards improving this is welcome, and there is already

a list of things that can be hacked in the TODO section of the MDN page.

Cheers

Alexandre

[1]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Building#Building_a_blob_free_full_system_zip

[2]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US...2G_installer_add-on#Adding_new_device_support

[3]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US..._Firefox_OS/B2G_installer_add-on#Installation

[4]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US...talling_Firefox_OS/B2G_installer_add-on#Usage
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
We had The talk with Mozilla two days ago. Here is the pad that we used to ask questions, most of answers are written also : https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/b2gostransition-kickoff

The video have been recorded but I don't know the link of it so far. I'll copy it here later. FxOS on pocket-computer will be in charge of the community and is, for now, called B2G OS again. Here is the wiki for the transition time : https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Transition_Project .

We keep discussing about on this two pads, https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/firefoxos_is_not_dead and https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/firefox_is_not_dead-brainstorming

There will be other talk every 4 weeks. 16 mozilian engineer (7, full time) will be working on the transition plan for the next 4-5 month.

The branch of transition of B2G OS will be very buggy and unstable for the coming weeks. So, I guess, it would be good to have one last stable FFOS 2.6 and then the transition branch of B2G OS (could you do that Vosky). I'd be interested to install both on my Nexus 5, the stable for daily usage and B2G OS to report bug.

We'll have to make some decision soon about the direction that B2G OS will take, like do we want to base on Cyanogenmod? So if you want to participate, so far, we gather on the pads (and Discourse I guess).

---------- Post added at 06:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:36 PM ----------

Something that could interest you : https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/t/b2g-installer-add-on-for-firefox/7523

Vosky and eyoome, are you working with them?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] eyoome:
Hi [MENTION=6529645]Thatoo[/MENTION]

Well, I follow a little bit and I just see how this evolved and how/when/if I can help.

Thanks to report it anyway :)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Vosky:
Hi,

I am passive with this new project and only watch it from far.

I was not really up to date with Mozilla project so it is harder now.

As usual, I count on [MENTION=4660694]eyome[/MENTION] (and all of you) to send me news. ;)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] eyoome:
xD
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
My phone doesn't want to display the summer time even though the alarm app display it correctly...
[Nexus 5 Android Development] eyoome:
Is it already summer time?

Maybe you haven't set the time automatically
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
Yes iin Iran at least it is. And yes I set the time automatic.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
Email from Benjamin Francis

and now, there is a forum on Mozilla discourse about B2GOS : https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/c/firefox-os-participation/b2g-os-transition
[Nexus 5 Android Development] eyoome:
I would like to add to the previous Thatoo post: https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Transition_Project
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
Hello, I have a problem.

I wanted to get rid of Android so I installed CM13as the principal ROM. I have activated root access to apps. I installed MultiROM. It says "Kernel: doesn't have kexec-hardboot patch" which was expected. I have to install the appropriate kernel for CM13 that is offered in the list.

However, the installation of kernel for CM13 failed. When it reboot to TWRP, it says

"

error installing zip file '/cach/recovery/kernel.....CM13....zip'

Done processing script file

MTP Enabled

"

It's the same if I download the zip and flash it...

My problem is that without it, FFOS won't boot anymore...

---------- Post added at 11:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:06 AM ----------

It's ok, I solved it. it didn't install because of zip signature....

Now I have the kernel CM13 installed and FFOS 2.5 boot.

Sorry for bothering.

---------- Post added at 11:53 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:14 AM ----------

Me, I'll install FFOS 2.6 (the last FFOS version for phone) as soon as it's available as my daily ROM and if you are willing to keep this adventure running, I'll install on the side the ROM of B2G OS to test and report (maybe everyweek, everyday I can't because data is expensive in Iran).

What do you think [MENTION=5033115]eyoome[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4466984]Vosky[/MENTION]?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] eyoome:
Hey Thatoo,

Happy you solved your issue.

I don't know if there will be a 2.6 release for phone, maybe I missed some infos...

Regarding B2G, I think there is no version available FOR NOW on Nexus5, but it's a matter of time I guess :)

For now, there is just an Aries version.

About me, I will do whatever I can for B2G :)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
No, you are right, FF 2.6 will be TV only Firefox OS version.

The link to build B2G transition is : https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Transition_Project#Building_the_Transition_Branches

then, I guess, it will have to do something with that : https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/B2G/blob/master/README.md

And the "B2G installer add-on" stuff sounds good to my ear :) : https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US...nd_installing_Firefox_OS/B2G_installer_add-on
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
Message from Velenti on discourse :

"

Hi there!

Let's gather feedback from people having tried to build: what works? what doesn't? on which device? ... and document it on the wiki (we can probably make a dedicated page "Building the B2G OS Transition branch" as a subpage from this one https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Transition_Project, or on MDN, what do you think?)

There is already a topic regarding Building for Flame on this Discourse instance. Having a topic per device might be a good idea.

Also, does someone know if it would be ok to upload the builds to Mexmod1? If so, is there a guide to do so?

Cheers!

"

https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/t/are-we-building-yet/8019
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
ّI have been today on https://ffos.vosky.fr/ and I saw that there is still new builds coming? I thought there will be no more nightly builds as FFOS 2.5 is the last one.

And what is the difference between the Pre-releases 2.5 and the nightlies then?

[MENTION=5033115]eyoome[/MENTION], when you say that you "think there is no version available FOR NOW on Nexus5", what do you mean? I thought Vosky was building the version of FFOS for Nexus 5? Maybe I don't understand the difference between make a version available on Nexus5 and build a ROM....

Could you explain me the process and who was doing what to make it possible for us here in this post to download our friendly firefox OS? from ex Mozilla FFOS team to Vosky and you...
[Nexus 5 Android Development] LluisAzm:
Hi!

I wanted to install as second ROM, 2.5 by Recovery seems OK... I will try it.

Let's see!

Edit: I hope there is no problem for flahs over 6.0.1...
[Nexus 5 Android Development] vandyswa:
Current image status?

Anybody tried a recent build image? I heard that Mozilla folks were doing massive surgery on B2G.

Do the images even boot? Run well enough to be worth trying to use?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
Starting from now, FFOS 2.5 will be the last version of Firefox OS on smartphone. I'm waiting from [MENTION=4466984]Vosky[/MENTION] to confirm that his build Pre-released 2.5 and the nightlies are now the same and not evolving anymore. In that case we better all update to the last stable build of FFOS2.5.

However, Mozilla's community decided to keep going with B2G OS (code name that was use before Firefox OS, a return to the roots of the project), a 100% web based OS so there are a lot of things to be rewritten and now there is a transition branch that offers a quiet broken B2G OS. Let's hope that in near future (3month) it will be working good enough to be used daily. Right now the transition branch has been build only on Z3C and Flame.

I don't know if [MENTION=4466984]Vosky[/MENTION] and [MENTION=5033115]eyoome[/MENTION] are already working on porting the transition branch to Nexus 5 or if they want to wait that it gets a bit more stable first.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] eyoome:
Hi Thatoo,

Sorry for delay, I am quite busy :).

Regarding the difference between FxOS 2.5 and 2.6, to be honest, I don't know :D. See the git version of your system to see if some comits have been done recently (just to see if some changes have been done...).

For now, the transition branch is above all for developers. The first target is just to have homescreen, keyboard, web browser and eventually system-setting functional. So it's useless for users imho. I guess some info will come soon.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
Thank you [MENTION=5033115]eyoome[/MENTION], I understand, the world is moving fats and if we don't pay attention we get easily busy :)

Message from benfrancis on discourse, https://discourse.mozilla-community...r-flame-on-transition-kanikani-branch/8024/18 , :
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Thatoo:
A very interesting remark from benfrancis on discourse :