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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] friedrich420:
i can tell you this..

There are no reports of lag and Jay doesnt respond with "its because of your kernel" ;)

Echoe and AEL are made for each other.. The fact that AEL is used with other roms, is a side-effect of development..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] t83wood:
Thanks man, I was just wondering if he got the gpe theme working in echoe without any other issues using the method he described :)... Might be switching from dk to that if that theme works because I like how it looks.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] jds3118:
Yes. The DK themes have a services.jar file that goes with DK rom and that file was causing me to have reboots and freezing it took a day and a half to find out that's what was the problem. When I replaced the one flashed by the theme with the original file from rom zip all problems have stopped [emoji4]

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Yes they are sir a match made in heaven [emoji4]
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] t83wood:
Awesome that's what I wanted to hear, thanks!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] friedrich420:
There's a v5.9 available..

Couple of changes:

- Added BFQ Scheduler

- Raised some of the hardlimit defaults

- Added option for governor tunables in synapse thanks to my friend Pafcholini!!

(Note: The tunables dont show for all governors- it depends on the governor)

You know..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] jds3118:
Yup both themes work just delete the services.jar file from the theme zip then flash and you should be good to go just make a backup first[emoji12] lol
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] bobbarker2:
You rock fred, thanks for the consistent and fast updates.

I wonder why people asked for BFQ when it's one of the worst performing schedulers...

Also in regards to Synapse gov tunables, when I change the governor and apply it the tunables don't change unless you close and reopen synapse and then it displays some settings that don't apply to that governor. For example, I go from interactive to ondemand, close the program and reopen and it has some ondemand tunables like powersave_bias and sampling_rate but it still shows interactive tunables like boost.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
Agreed! 110%
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] TechnRom:
Any suggestions for fastest Hotspot speeds in synapse using the tcp congestion I have tried the high speed setting and some others. On dk4 and ael umbrella
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] bobbarker2:
Westwood is best.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] masri1987:
ok im gonna ask a question please don't hate me.

aftermarket kernels are supposed to extend on the experience of a stock kernel and make it better

yet on every kernel i try my battery life is decent, SOT is around 4-5hrs, performance is great

Stock kernel , battery life is insane, SOT has now broken 6.5hrs SOT (and i still have 30% left) and performance is great overnight i lost 1% during idle.

my OCD is killing me with stock kernel because there's nothing for me to play with, i want to go back to a aftermarket kernel but i need your opinion . thanks. (when i tried AEL 5.8 , i got SOT of 4 hours and 50 minutes, overnight i lost 10% during idle)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] friedrich420:
We hate you :p

The 10% overnight is abnormally high! ! Anything more than 3 % overnight i consider it a lot..

My 1st recommendation would be to do a search on xda about various apps that will help you pinpoint whats causing this high battery drain.. also, experiement with other settings of the kernel my friend.. this is a tedious process because each experimentation should last for at least 2 -3 days in order to have a reliable judgement on the battery..

In your case i would always have intelliplug on along with eco extreme profiles.. but it will take some trial and error (and patience) on your part..

P.s. we hate you :p
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] masri1987:
Well while i was on AEL and Bioshock, i had all apps in greenify, and i was using leandroid which turns off all radio's after 30 minutes of screen off, and i was still losing 9-10% overnight.

Will the eco-extreme profile hamper performance ?

I'm barely back on stock kernel as of yesterday and i haven't even had a chance to charge it back up yet (when i reported the stats in the first post)

I even tried AEL\Bioshock without touching any settings at all and ended up with results that weren't close to stock kernel
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] friedrich420:
My friend i gave you what i could..

So i would tell you what i would do if i were you: i would stick with what makes me happy.. even if thats the stock kernel..Your experience is your experience.. mine is the opposite but that does not invalidate yours (like yours cannot invalidate mine..). My experience on a stock kernel almost made me think that i threw away 800 euros down the toilet for a pos phone..

But again.. that's my experience..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] masri1987:
while i generally agree, each experience will vary, i'm not the only one asking how people are getting those crazy SOT's on stock kernel, while being on a aftermarket kernel.

I agree performance on stock kernel is average, nothing like your kernel performance.

I'm just trying to narrow down what i'm doing wrong and how i can adjust it to make it work like or better than stock kernel.

thank you
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] friedrich420:
This is where you are spoiling a good discussion.. because invariably your need for your experience to be generalized comes into place.. that kind of contradicts you saying you agree with what i said..

You are welcome! :)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] masri1987:
lol i'm simply trying to figure out where the discrepancy is, as you can see i pre-faced it with "aftermarket kernels are supposed to build ontop of the stock kernel experience", you mentioned eco-extreme profiles, do they affect performance?

And like i said i've been posting on the rom's that i've been using regarding battery life and even got blasted there for asking about SOT's while using a aftermarket kernel (which then i came on here and posted my experience of over there)

It seems that i'm constantly being bounced around when all i want is a open friendly conversation about the subject so i can either get educated regarding settings, or resolve my problem if it is something that i'm doing wrong.

Now i should probably shut up and just use stock kernel, but since i've been rooting and roming for years i've never used a stock kernel and always got great results, so it's something i'm accustomed to (not your problem lol)

Keep in mind my experience with your kernel is the same with bioshock kernel as well regarding what i stated earlier , saying that to clarify that it's not just your kernel i'm having these questions on.

Thanks again though , i'll open up a thread in the Q&A section and go from there.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] bobbarker2:
By Eco extreme you mean Eco Performance? What exactly do the profiles change about intelliplug's behavior? I've never been able to tell a real difference in battery/performance or awake cpus.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
[12 January 2015] [Kernel] [SM-910T] N4 TMO AEL Kernel [SYNAPSE SUPPORT]

Sounds like you factored out kernel issues by using two different kernels. Also sounds like FireKat because that's the only ROM I've heard flames users for conflicting results. So...

It's either your specific configuration in regards to installed apps, running services, etc.

Or

Time to switch to a ROM where it isn't a "cool place with chill people" (using one specific configuration and never questioning it).
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] masri1987:
I was on Firekat V7 about two weeks ago, i've been messing with Rapture 2.2 and 2.3 since then though ( i did get flamed on the firekat thread for not using stock kernel)

Now i don't have many unique applications that are running that would be draining battery, and i use better battery stats to monitor wakelocks and i greenify everything + use leandroid. what am i missing.

FYI i would never break more than 4.5 hrs of SOT on any aftermarket kernel, stock kernel @ 35% and i'm way passed 4.5hrs of SOT

For the record i have no tried starkissed. Only bioshock and ael/
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
I did 7 hours sot with stock ROM and this kernel on battery saving set up that was given here. When I flash a ROM it went down hardcore to 4.5. When I flash a ROM that works I will be happy till then stock ROM is good for me. Now that I got a huge brick of a battery I am getting great time lol.

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] bobbarker2:
Which settings are you referring to?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] masri1987:
Last time i used Bioshock , iwas running Bioshock\Zen with 2048 emmc turned off intelliplug was on hardlimit was to ignore dvsf (whatever it's called)

The most SOT i got on bioshock after a few days was nearly 5 hrs of SOT
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
If you search like a month ago Friedrich posted a suggestion for me to try. I will look later if you can't find it.

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
[12 January 2015] [Kernel] [SM-910T] N4 TMO AEL Kernel [SYNAPSE SUPPORT]

I ran Greenify for 5 minutes. It's got more services than it stopped. Use something like autostarts and read up on the apps before killing off what you know is a waste.

Widget updates, on screen or not, waste battery.

Startups for stuff like Dropbox are pointless if you don't use photos.

Startups for stuff that refresh when opened are wasted unless you use push notifications.

FireKat provides results based on a specific setup so anything said there is nothing more than trial and error findings. Forget anything you read there.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
Can you show me the auto starts app you talking about. Play store has a few.

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
The one I use is paid with a red car icon.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
Wow funny I bought it and stuff that is frozen with titanium back up was still active. So I froze with it as well. It definitely shows more in ways of start up apps and after start up. People are just gonna have to read lol.

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
Titanium just disables the launch intent. It is a lot like how apps hide their icon but can still run. People freezing FauxClock in Titanium still have it applying settings on boot. That's why I've said to disable set on boot, too.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] bobbarker2:
Oh I never knew componentenabledsetting just took away the launch intent. Today I Learned.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
It disables whatever intent you aim it at. Titanium appears to target intents flagged launcher or main, but could go after any marked default. The issue is that it is standard practice to only have one default, so that varies by developer.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] bobbarker2:
http://xdaforums.com/note-4-tmobile...ael-kernel-t2961240/post57366423#post57366423

These it?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
Yes sir

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] masri1987:
see i tried that too and still resulted with what i posted earlier lol
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
Not really. You have never stayed stock ROM. I bet you have a ton of wake locks. Use the apps that I posted in your other thread and u will find your issue. It won't be a fast fix but will get better

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] masri1987:
I really don't have a lot of wakelocks. Not any that betterbattery stats are reporting at least and i was running rapture2.2 with those settings you referred to in the previous post.

i downloaded WLD though and we'll see
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
When you get it fully charged set it up the right way and let it go over night and then post screenshots in your thread on q&a and let's see what is going on.

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
I think it may help a lot of people knowing I did a long-term test on SOT.

No kernel changes, stock ROM.

All KNOX stuff disabled (by renaming apps) - 6.5 hours

All KNOX stuff disabled via Titanium / Wanam - 4.5 hours
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
Sounds about right. It what I got.

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
[12 January 2015] [Kernel] [SM-910T] N4 TMO AEL Kernel [SYNAPSE SUPPORT]

Good to know I didn't lie about my findings :P

Time to get rid of KNOX again. Bleh!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] t83wood:
Still seem to get better results with 5.2 on DK 4.0, tried 5.8 with echoe but kept having issues after modifying and flashing the gpe theme with echoe settings.jar. Tried Bioshock kernel yesterday, I think every app I have was FCing lol. Been trying KT kernel since last night and so far that seems better for my setup, lots of xposed mods, including Wanam and gravity box running, probably fighting with each other but meh, looks cool lol.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] masri1987:
well on rapture + stock kernel for the last two days i've been getting phenomenal results about 6.5-7hrs SOT

it's just when i use another kernel it all goes down the drain

Bacardi i'm gonna run the full day's charge with starkissed FYI
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] t83wood:
Hey twisted can you tell me specifically what Knox stuff you renamed and the paths you found them in so I can try it?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
I used the stock firmware with KNOX renamed from the stock flashable thread.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] jds3118:
It's the services.jar not settings.jar that may have been a problem [emoji4]
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] Journey159:
v5.2 or v5.9

I am currently using v.5.9 with DK 4.0 on my 910-W8 and the battery life is not what it used to be. Example 15 mins screen on (regular brightness) is roughly 5%. The kernel is all around amazing and has DK running perfectly its just the battery life that's not adding up. Would you say that 5.2 is better for DK 4.0. or are my settings (using Faux123) not configured properly?

Settings

Max - 2.7

Gov. umbrella_core

intelliplug

intellithermal

msm-adreno-tz - 600mhz (simple GPU on) laziness - 4 ramp - 5

I/O sio 1024

no voltage change
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] friedrich420:
Ok you guys i need your help..

WHICH GOVERNORS DO YOU CONSIDER USELESS AND SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE KERNEL??

I would appreciate your prompt responses ;)

I dont need justification for your opinions..

At the end of the day ill pick the 5 most hated ones (or more) and remove them...

In the meantime:

(16 January 2015) N4 TMO AEL Kernel v6

Changes:

DOWNLOAD
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] t83wood:
Figured out a way to have different profiles... I flashed KT kernel which also installs ktweaker app, then flashed AEL kernel, now I can switch easily between different profiles using ktweaker with AEL kernel :)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] Mibuix0r:
I think

interactive

is kinda pointless with interactive pro on there same with

ondemand

and ondemandplus. Heh I can't even find much info on some of them like darkness, alucard, yankactive, and bluactive. I was using umbrella but had some lag issues so now i'm on interactive pro, might try bluactive if I could find info on it.

PS: this works flawlessy on the Verizon DE version :D
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] friedrich420:
(16 January 2015) N4 TMO AEL Kernel v6.1

Changes:

DOWNLOAD​
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] sefrcoko:
Personally I would like to see the default interactive governor kept because I find it works well without any tweaks, but agree that it's hard to find info on some of the newer ones...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] friedrich420:
i agree with you. I will not remove any stock governors..

About the new governors.. why dont you guys try them for yourselves and you write the info/opinion about it?

Just a thought.. Dont be trapped into thinking everyone else knows better than you.. Create your own knowledge :good:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] bobbarker2:
Lionheart, dancedance, smartmax, smartassv2, wheatley, adaptive. Seems like these are thrown into every custom kernel and I've never read anyone actually recommend/use them.

Or you could just get the ktweaker.apk from the zip and push that. No need to flash the entire kernel.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] friedrich420:
I agree with all of them except for Lionheart. By far the best governor (smooth performance incredible battery ) i used on the Note 3..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] psycho4us4:
I use smartmax for over a month now. Imo

this is an excellent governor.

Please do no remove smartmax, you can remove the rest mentioned above, but please leave smartmax. Thanks in advance
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] bobbarker2:
Flashed 6.1 (N4_TMO_AELKernel_v6_1_160115.zip) and I'm seeing my GPU freq drop down to 27MHz when not in use. Switched to simple_ondemand gpu gov with min freq of 240MHz and enabled simple_gpu_algo. I've never seen this before and looked at the freq in two apps to confirm it wasn't just a display bug in synapse.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] friedrich420:
the more i think about it, im prob not removing any of them.. everyone has one that they prefer..

The good thing is it doesnt matter what governors are there.. what matters is the one you are using ;)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] psycho4us4:
Much appreciated.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
I don't know that changing everything to RELATION_C is really going to help.

For ondemand-based, it balances it out by letting the load directly impact the frequency, but for interactive types, you'd probably want to favor higher (RELATION_H) and for conservative types, the lower (RELATION_L).
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] friedrich420:
Thanks!!

Im trying to figure out which balance is the best..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
I say leave as is cause everyone uses phone different. Some guys play games all day. Some of us use this for work and need less performance and more battery life. You made it universal and gave starting points. Now it is on us to figure it out.

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Where would u push apk to. System app or priv app

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] bobbarker2:
Whichever folder the ktoonz.zip is installing it to.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
Be very careful with that. All those profiles are meant for the s4 and that under clocking is not meant for this beast lol be very careful lol. Tho I love the idea of fast swapping profiles it not for this phone lol.

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] em0ney14:
Only issue I'm having with 6.1 is the GPU frequency drops to this until the screen is touched, causing a little lag with certain things. .. I don't know what's causing it, I've tried different governors.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] bobbarker2:
Yep same here.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] em0ney14:
Do you need a log?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
If you have one always post with screenshot along with ROM you are running. Saves devs from having to scanned back to try and find info

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
With a log, screenshots are just memes.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] em0ney14:
Just tell me what you need I got you I've been doing a lot of testing with kt to get his kernel up and running for the note 4 so you could PM me or post in here and I got you
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
I know the logs are for you guys the screen shots are for the rest of us.

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] em0ney14:
Well I went in Flash 6.0 and then redownloaded 6.1 and flashed it and it seems to be working fine now. I will report back later when I get a break from work if anything changes but loving this kernel
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] chrisrj28:
I'm currently using this kernel with Echoe rom but WiFi calling seems to not be working. All the searching I did indicates it should be. I'm using the latest 6.1 release
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] Flashvetrin:
Can you be a bit more specific??..

Are you getting an error message?

And if so what code is followed by that message..[emoji55]
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] Adam1203:
I've been running the Bluactive Governor and it runs like a dream. Saves battery when I'm not gaming, but provides butter smooth graphics.

Friedrich, I sent you a donation as a thank you! Your work is much appreciated.

Thanks again!

Adam
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] chrisrj28:
Nope no error message. It just doesn't come on. When I go into settings WiFi calling is turned on but it says WiFi not connected when I clearly am. See the screenshot
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] Flashvetrin:
Prior to flashing this kern it worked??

Im on 6.1 with zero issues with wifi calling.

What rom are you running??

Im running dk,and have also ran the echo rom for tmob, and ael has never interferred with wifi calling..

Sounds like your issue is rom related..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] unibomber:
Is the fuel chip reset in synapse a kernel thing or a synapse thing?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] friedrich420:
Everything is a kernel thing in a way.. synapse is just a blank app.. you need to heavily modify the ramdisk in order to have options.. but if you mean if its a feature that was done by modifying the kernel source then the answer is no..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] unibomber:
ahhh ok. I was looking for a way to reset the chip without pulling the battery.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
Bro I wanted to ask ya something but don't wanna blow it up on ur thread. How can I reach ya. Your pm is full.

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] than8:
I have random reboots

Enviado desde mi Bestia SM-N910T
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
What ROM and well what did u touch in either app

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