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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] 2thvet:
Anyone else have results with this method, posted by Duane Stepherson on Facebook, I am just into my first charge discharge cycle using this process, that he described. It takes me three days to drain this battery, so it'll take me weeks to get through the process. Was anxious for feedback.... Is it for real, or should I give up now. Never thought I'd be so anal about wanting the dang stock battery meter to read more accurate, because overall it's a good battery with excellent battery life, it's crazy that it bothers me so much!!!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] manbat:
I am at 2days and 5hours with 15hrs screen on time@16% currently. I am on vacation and I have been forcing screen on to run this beast to empty...kind of hard sometimes...lol.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Eldartho:
I'm convinced I got a dud of a battery.... Best I've managed is 9hrs screen on
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
You charged it wrong. Just ask ZeroLemon lol

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Eldartho:
This is my 4th zero lemon.... None have been this bad
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] MaxxViper:
I must be one of the lucky ones, my 10,000mAH zerolemon battery for my note 3 has lasted over a year now without any issues. "fingers crossed" .. lol

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Try the note 4 and let's see if that stays the same. They did a piss poor job with it

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If it ur 4th for the note 4 then bro give up.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Eldartho:
4th as in note 2,note 3,lg g3, note 4 and yeah the one for my old note 3 would never die hahaha
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Gotcha. I went with Hyperion 8000 and love it no learning new charge cycles or anything.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Eldartho:
I love the hard time they are giving me for trying to get a replacement note 4 battery
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
I went over their head and went to amazon and eBay they refunded me the money.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Guitarfreak26:
Does the zerolemon hard shell still fit with a glass protector fitted?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
Yep
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Depends on the protector. Some did a few didn't .I stopped using it

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] sefrcoko:
Has anyone tried the "Reset Fuel Gauge Chip Now" button in Synapse (on the Battery tab/page)? Using AEL kernel v6.1 and latest DynamicKat rom with my N910W8. Just tried it and will post update after a full cycle, but curious to know if anyone has tried already.

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This case has a lip around the front edges like most cases, so glass that fits most other cases should also work with this one. I have the Zerolemon with the Inskin glass for the moment and they go together great. The only issues I can imagine might be with a thicker edge-to-edge glass, but I haven't tried that yet so I can't comment with certainty.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
I've got a dud also. Im in the process of returning It. I get 9 hours onscreen time and 1 day standby. That's the same as my stock battery.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Eldartho:
I chose the "we will send you a shipping label and give you a new battery upon return of the old one option"
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
Well see what they say. It was great at first then turned to crap....charging 12 hours 4 or 5 times is unrealistic in the real wold.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] manbat:
I must have a good one...did the break-in charges...regularly get three days on a charge. I have gotten up to 16hrs screen on with over 2 days on a charge....forced screen on test. This is with no battery pulls....hate to take the case off...lol.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Eldartho:
Yeah especially when on a bad work days I'm pushing 14 hours....
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] shawnpuerto:
Hm interesting data, thank you for sharing
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] shawnpuerto:
Wow, I'm surprised. You should exchange yours for a non-broken one lol
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] shawnpuerto:
Wow, that's a shame. I guess I just don't really have a need for one- I just let my phone charge all night, and then while I sit at my desk at work. I never have a problem with battery life.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] shawnpuerto:
Not sure where you live, but the Northeastern US might have a demand for those soon. haha, they're supposed to be getting around 2-3 feet of snow tonight
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] shawnpuerto:
My prayers extend to you and your family. Stock up on some books too; incase there's a power outage
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOB Dave:
Have started this process and with the percentage gets to 5% the screen darkens and it is impossible to read outside. I looked through the options trying to figure out a way to brighten the screen and found nothing and at 5% the even the auto dimming bar is not present. I did a restart which did not help so I wound up pulling the battery at 4% and it jumped to 30% so we shall see what happens in the next cycle.

~Dave
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
Root dim works. I haven't figured out how to lock it to a certain brightness, it doesnt work for me. Also do the 12 hour charges. The way this guy is saying will only charge the battery to like 50%
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] 2thvet:
Indeed, this method seems to only charge the battery to about 2/3 of its full capacity. I am on the third cycle of this method, and I have noticed that doing battery pulls during discharge to the recommended 1% definitely gets you to 1%, with the repeated pulls, but it certainly doesn't work when charging to 100%, as clearly, even by pulling out the battery during the charging process it will read as 100% and this doesn't mean anything.... It doesn't really mean it's at 100%, and that is why you need a 12 hour charge to fully charge this battery, and yeah it'll sit at the 100% for hours, but still be charging....
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
Just got the Hyperion. I've been on battery 3 hours and I'm at 84 percent. Let's see how this goes.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Just make sure u charge up 12 hours first 5 times. Also don't let it die

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] papped:
The Hyperion battery is pretty much the perfect solution (and they offer a case which is great). The only negative I can really think of is that their battery door doesn't have a stand or QI receiver built in like the Mugen one. But the Mugen one certainly isn't worth almost double the price just for that...

You can get a Qi receiver (usb or direct contacts) for like $11. If I wasn't lazy I could probably mod a stand...

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One other small negative, the hole cutouts around the usb and headphone jacks for the Hyperion TPU case should be slightly larger. That's an easy mod though.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
On my second charge now and getting the same results. Voltage is at 3700+ and I'm near 0%. Wtf.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
ZeroLemon for note 4 sucks

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] sefrcoko:
I'm pretty sure everyone here knows your opinion on the Zerolemon, because you post it on almost every page of this thread. We get it. More posts like this don't actually contribute anything useful to the thread at this point. Not trying to be disrespectful, but not much point in just saying "it sucks", it's terrible, etc when your experiences and opinions have already been shared here. Let it go and enjoy your Hyperion mate :) [emoji106]
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
I helping others not to buy this poorly made crap. They shouldn't spend hard earn money. Few have had success with this thing. The charging cycles are a joke and the hard time they give trying to get your money back is a joke. I will keep coming here daily to remind folks not to spend money on junk.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
I meant the hyperion. Lol
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Did u fix ur framework back to normal

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
No.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] sefrcoko:
If people care about their hard-earned money then they will read this thread and decide for themselves what type of product is a good investment for their needs. What sucks for you might be good for someone else. With all due respect, we don't need someone "looking out" for us on a daily basis. But thanks anyways.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Ehhh I will do it my way. Carry on.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
When ya get framework don't use fast charge and charge it for 12 hrs.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jlczl:
I get 7 hours screen on time running FireKatN4 and have the extra battery kit so I have a solid 14 hour screen time without the added bulk. Had considered getting a zero lemon for occasions I might need more but it looks like that's about all I'd get with the zero lemon anyway from what I've read of this thread. Am I wrong?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Some would swear by it many will not. Only can know the answer.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
It's the luck of the draw. I get 9 hours screen time 1 day of use. Garbage. They are sending me another battery. I feel it's the luck of the draw...this one does t work I'll just send it back and use stock until everything gets worked out.out
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] papped:
That means they have ****ty quality control... I'd never buy batteries from a company using a random grabbag of cells...
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] manbat:
Did I get the only good one...lol. I regularly get 2 1/2 to 3 days. I have gotten 16hrs screen on time recently (screen forced on) with 2 days life. All I do is charge it 12hrs after it drops below 5%. I do a complete power off (not a reboot) and turn on after about 5 minutes....usually twice in the 3 day run. Do the same thing with my Note 2 with ZL battery...I have always had good life.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
The issue here is the phone. You guys saying you're getting less than 2 days in the zero lemon are probably assuming this because the battery meter says 1%. In reality, you have about 40%.

The hyperion is behaving the same way. I have 53%, but my voltage is at 3.9v. Meaning I have probably around 70% left.

This appears to be a Samsung firmware issue.

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I actually just used an app to calculate the percentage from mV and it actually might be more accurate than I thought. I'll keep you updated.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
I think it has to do with the fuel chip in the battery and probably the kernel but who knows. Manbat, how accurate is your % indicator?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
Well I've had the same thing with the Hyperion and the zero lemon. Meaning the phone is the likely variable.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
My Hyperion is dead on accurate. Single cell will operate just as factory battery does.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] manbat:
The % indicator varies. That is why I power off (not reboot) a few times during the run...it makes the % closer to accurate. I believe the Hyperion battery is two stacked cells (it was on my wife's S3 and my Note 2) ....where the Note 4 ZL is 3 stacked cells. The ZL for Note 2 was also 3 stacked cells. The ZL for Note 2 % always was accurate for me.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] papped:
You've had the phone stuck at an inaccurate percent on the Hyperion? I've never seen that on any Rom.

Also people are already aware of the zero lemon reporting inaccurate % especially at 1%. Then you reboot and it jumps again. That's the main complaint here....
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] wub02:
I think this battery indication issue is more related to firmware or Android, to me if phone is at high current state, it "estimate" instead do actual reading until current drop back to lower state,so if a phone is running at high current state (bright screen, lots of sensor/ radio on, high activities ),it uses OEM battery's capacity to calculate. It also have a very slow updating rate, maybe 1 or 2 hour per read (when it reads).

I'm no expert on Android so I could be wrong, first time post, go easy on me :o
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
Yeah. I'm getting the same (but not as dramatic) behavior from the hyperion.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
There is a fuel chip reset in synapse. That takes the place of a battery pull but it doesn't work...dunno how to get it to work. I just hope my new battery last 19 hours screen time like everyone else's. Lol. I can live with the inaccurate % until we find a solution.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
It is a single cell for the note 4. Maybe if they go bigger it be 2 cells.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] sefrcoko:
I tried the fuel guage reset button in Synapse (running latest Dynamic Kat rom and AEL kernel on my N910W8 with the zerolemon 10,000 mah battery). I get an error message every time I press the button though so I dont think it worked. I assume it's a kernel issue (since Synapse is a kernel control app), but haven't asked about it yet in the AEL kernel thread. Maybe it works on other kernels but haven't tried yet either. If someone is able to get it to work I would be curious to know the results with the zerolemon.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
So I'm getting the same result in cyanogen. What gives?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
How many mv is the zl?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Should say it on the label

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
Judging by this post http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=153489 (even though it's for htc) it might be a starting point for our problem? The op says it's a kernel issue with the fuel chichip unless I'm reading wrong..

Now to get a dev to look at it
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
2 ROM devs look at it quickly and 1 kernel Dev. Battery not assembled to work as 1 cell. It will never work . I didn't wanna waste their time with a bad engineering.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
But my hyperion is behaving exactly the same as the zerolemon. That points to the phone. The phone thinks the battery is nearly dead when at 3700ish mV. In reality, the phone shuts down at about 3400.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Ur phone or ROM or kernel is weird. Start over with stock. Then reroot.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] avilancaster:
I was having a similar issue- rerooting helped.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JDevil:
Can you tell me how you managed to get Synapse working? I'm running AEL kernel (T MO version) and it just says error and that last boot settings were bad, to reset. I did full unintelligible and reinstall. I think it may be the rom. I have 4.4.4 Definitive. Thank you.

Edit: to be clear, this is a VZW developer device.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] sefrcoko:
Works fine for me without any tweaking, running latest AEL kernel and Dynamic Kat rom on N910W8. Check this post in the general Note 4 AEL thread. Looks like an issue with busybox.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=58499637
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JDevil:
That seems to have worked, thank you.

Back on topic, so previously on stock the xml edit seemed to help out. I have since upgraded to NJ5 (with xml edit) and done a full charge. The battery corrected itself when I booted into recovery [this morning at 73%] but continued to fall considerable quickly. I'm sitting at 25% with 1d4h12m up time with large amounts of screen time and frequent recent reboots in an attempt to get synapse working. I'll see how far into today I'll get. I don't perceive the xml edit to helping. It seemed to helped with percentage previously with a higher charge 80% on up.

All in all, this battery is a wash, even the battery percentage corrections don't happen similarly. I think I'm going to move to a hyperion. I had one for my s3 and it worked great. The additional clip holster, dust flaps and added bonus of the flat surfaces are not worth the trouble.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
I have another zl coming.free of charge. If it's as garbage as the one I have now both will be going back and I'll pick up the hyperion
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Lol I returned both my ZeroLemon. They emailed me today that they sending me one to keep for all my inconvenience. So I gonna charge it my way with a desktop charger and then use it and drain it down and test again. If it don't work I will pull apart and redo battery in a different way to see if I can make it work. I been refunded so don't really care about it.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JDevil:
Phone fell to 1% right after first screenshot. Wish I could have let it go longer, however needed to charge overnight. After charging overnight, in the range of 60 - 70% it reset back down to 60%. That seems to be the only consistant thing about this battery. Last 12 hours or so had many reboots.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
Is your fast charge really on? If it is, it's not supposed to be.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JDevil:
Can you elaborate? I thought that just allows the quick charge ability. I've never touched it.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
ZL says it will only charge to the standard capacity of the oem battery If fast charge is enabled. Take it off then charge for 12 hours. ..that's what they say.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JDevil:
Hmmmm. It was to my understanding that it was compatible with fast charging in the way the oem batteries charge. the "fast charging enabled" notification disssapears around 50%. Tbe charging rate definitely slows down from there on up.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] manbat:
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I received a postcard from Zerolemon shortly after purchase with new instructions. ..which included the suggestion to turn off fast charging because the phones system turns into a "trickle charge" after stock mAh is reached when fast charge is engaged and this would cause the phone to never fully charge. I have no issues with the ZL charging....but I do have a custom kernel and have it set to charge at 2100 mAh and I use a tablet charger that supplies that.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] golfinggino:
It takes forever to kill this battery - trying to get it less then 5% to recharge it - It has been on for more then 2 days - I have been using the GPS at full brightness for more then 10 hours and still can't do it lol - this battery is crazy - thinking I will put my second sim card back in my xperia ultra and just use this phone for a gps running all day !
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
How exactly did you charge it when you first got it? Did you just go to 1% then charge or did you battery pull to get it to true 1%?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] twistedumbrella:
If you are trying to get accurate percentage, you need to delete the battery stats file, run the battery completely dead, charge it fully, then run it completely dead again. That should help to get it reading. There is also the documented issue that the ZeroLemon battery exceeds what Android can guage in terms of capacity, so the last 5% will be more like 15% - 20%.

Fast charge is supported, but only to charge to the stock capacity. You can either charge to that point and disable it, or simply disable it from the beginning. Keep in mind the Synapse fast charge and Settings fast charge are two completely different features. The fast charge that needs to be disabled to fully charge the battery is the one in Settings.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] golfinggino:
I had to pull the battery to get the % to display properly, when I first got it I didn't have to for some reason it was displaying it properly. today it is not reporting properly either now at 75% battery, phone has been on for 7 hours with a sot of 3 hours
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] manbat:
You can power off (not reboot)for about 2-5 minutes and power back on and % will come back up.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
I gonna modify their battery and see what I get

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] golfinggino:
Turned it off twice for 5 minutes and it didn't change the battery, I have everything turned off today except been running 100% on lte, I should be getting around close to 20 hours sot with these settings so I don't think the battery is displaying the correct %
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] manbat:
Forgot to add...after you get down to about 10%...turn it off for about 5 minutes. ..works for me. Mine jumps back up to about 70% from 10%...most screen on I have ever gotten was 16hrs and 2days + battery time.

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kernel-ed / TWRP 2.8.4.0.trltevzw
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
Does this battery fit in the Samsung external charger? I mean the main part like how it fits on the phone?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] 2thvet:
I don't think it does, if this is the charger you are referring to?

http://youtu.be/fuK4gB10wdM
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
When I had this battery I topped out at 14 sot so it possible for you to have 20 hrs

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It does if u snap off cover like this.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
Looking for something Like that. Just don't need an extra battery. Just an external battery charger. Any ideas?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] golfinggino:
I am hoping to get close to 20 hours sot, I was getting 14 hours sot the last 2 days with everything on brightness at the highest and minimum of 10 hours gps, so without this I should get much higher will report back tomorrow or Tuesday when I have run the battery down
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Nope ya gotta bite the bullet or wait till someone puts theirs up for sale

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14 hours screen time is great. If ya looking for my you will have to sacrifice a lot. It be worthless and laggy phone. If you on phone for 14 hours of sot then u either in hospital bed tied to bed or ur job does not check on work production lol.

OK let say stock battery u was getting 5 hrs like most it was due to major cuts in places and definitely no GPS like that. X3 is 15 hrs you are about right. I can show u how to hit 20 but u won't be using YouTube or phone or playing any type of games. No GPS no Bluetooth no WiFi . at this point I say throw phone away. That's just my 2 cents

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