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[YotaPhone] wideasleep1:
Starting to look less Sony Z'ish (version1), and more Sammy/Nexus'ish:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/yotaphone-2-review

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2014/12/03/yotaphone-2-dual-screen-eink-android-smartphone/

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...date-december-for-europe-worldwide-next-year/

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2855112/seven-things-to-know-about-the-dualscreen-yotaphone-2.html

http://www.androidauthority.com/yotaphone-2-announced-571851/

http://www.engadget.com/2014/12/03/yotaphone-2-review/?ncid=rss_truncated
[YotaPhone] zute333:
Its out and its beautiful. What are people's general thoughts on the yotaphone 2? I really really really want one but prefereably not until its less than £500
[YotaPhone] mkiller88:
I have the phone, and i like it, here are some photos, sry for the quality, photos are taken with HTC Desire 816.

Antutu 37451 points

Quadrant 20879

3D Mark Ice Storm Unlimited 15086

PCMark 3753
[YotaPhone] kam1962:
my quick review

i have one,

ink display can be a little sluggish, and takes a little but to set up - can only use prefixed screens which can be slightly customized ... not like traditional hone screen where you can add a lot of widgets and apps!!!

case is slippy like most phones but overall pleased.

.but think price is a bit ott

not too much clutter ie inbuilt apps but no memory card slot

battery not lasting much longer at moment but playing a lot with it so hoping for better when novelty has worn off

customer care appears ok.... had to chase up delivery but it was carrier problem
[YotaPhone] kleinmischa:
I have also one. It is fast and slim. It feels realy nice and the ink display is working fine.

Missing all the options I have on S4 with custom roms xD

However, I'm trying to get root on the phone and so far I only found a way via Kingo Root. My problem is however that there is no driver for win7. If I enable USB-debug Kingo root can not find the device....

Nice thing is that you can charge it via EasyCHEE® T900: Qi for example.

I hope that I will find a way in the future to root the device p,p
[YotaPhone] mndgz:
It could do with a memory card slot and waterproofing. Hopefully in the next version :)

I actually preferred the Xperia Z'ish look but it might be just me.
[YotaPhone] :
Would you say that this phone was worth using as a dev unit or is it just a good phone to have in general?
[YotaPhone] mndgz:
just took the plunge and spent hundreds upon hundreds of pounds on a YotaPhone 2 (used YOLO as an excuse :))

It will arrive next week so will be able to give some feedback if anyone will be interested
[YotaPhone] zute333:
waiting for mine as well, hoping for it to come next week. will get back with first impressions sooooon
[YotaPhone] G0dly:
Would be really interested to hear how the battery life is if only the e-ink display is used. I only ever use my phone for reading webpages, text and phoning so if there was a big enough increase in life I'd switch.
[YotaPhone] thebigg69:
Using the yotaenergy mode but still allowing full data and background account sync I have managed to run 24hours with only 15% battery used, so I could push if to go for a whole week without charging.

In reality I make a bit more use of the phone and am typically getting 2-3 days use out of it between charges with about 30% battery left.
[YotaPhone] zute333:
First report - it is utterly beautiful and the bumper adds to the aesthetic imo. E ink screen is great, feels lovely, panels are pretty configurable. All the yota apps are working pretty well for me and being able to switch over is a great feeling. Still slightly disconcerting when putting hand in pocket and feeling screen on either side but its class being able to just take out phone and look at clock, notifications and whatever else without unlocking and using negligible battery. It hasn't had a full charge yet, it had a small one and then had a heavy night of downloading and updating apps and playing with. At work now, will give it a full charge when I get back and then can do a proper battery test (don't have gsam on him yet either). I'm impressed so far though, seems to be holding out well considering there were a fair few solid hours of heavy usage.

Full report to follow soon.

It's name is Yakov - after one of my favourite crazy Russians; Yakov Pavlov. (for those interested in a good story or two - http://listverse.com/2012/09/17/top-10-facts-about-the-battle-of-stalingrad/ has good summaries)
[YotaPhone] zute333:
anyone tried rooting yet?
[YotaPhone] mndgz:
Framaroot not working, will try Kingo next
[YotaPhone] zute333:
Kingo worked on the first yotaphone, fingers crossed.
[YotaPhone] rien-ne-va-plus:
Just stumbled across the fact that there is a YotaPhone 2. I had waited for the first one for quite some months before going for a Nexus 5 (well, it was over half a year after YotaPhone was announced and before Nexus 5 came out, you do the math)

Now, even after it was finally released, it was certainly not set up for success. But they seem to have done everything right with the secnd incarnation (almost, that is. Bit weak on the processor and battery, and what's this Qi-charging which cannot be done with E-Ink facing up?)

The phone is about 520 Euros in Russia and I'm getting really tempted, especially reading initial reactions on here. But at this point I'm not sure I could live without my custom Android tweaks. Do you guys think there will be any development on this device? Maybe Yota would be smart to actually release their code...

Cheers,

rien
[YotaPhone] zute333:
TLDR version of my review that I stuck on a yota 2 review thread - Very pretty phone, great front screen, back screen surprisingly useful and nice to look at and touch. Software well implemented. Hopeful for long term development improvements. Very good performance, great battery. Occasional glitch but nothing that detracts from and limits experience.

Overall, loving it. Expensive but very different and a joy to use.
[YotaPhone] bartveld:
I admit I'm very tempted, but yes, will there be any development? The novelty of the double screen will wear off and then I will certainly miss the tweakability of a rooted phone.
[YotaPhone] mndgz:
YotaPhone 2 successfully rooted

Achieved root on YotaPhone 2 on 4.4.3, build KTU84L.4.4.3-S01-003-EU1.0.3.56a using Kingo Root on a Windows 8 device.

Used the original YotaPhone ADB drivers downloaded from yotaphone.com

Hope that helps
[YotaPhone] zute333:
Nice one dude, thanks very much for the info. Happy tinkering / modding.
[YotaPhone] IceDealer86:
Is YotaMirror still working for you after rooting?

I rooted mine with Kingo Root, installed some root apps like Xposed Framework with a few modules (XPrivacy etc.), changed the screen density from 480 to 400, but then figured out, that YotaMirror does not work anymore (when started from the color display - when started from the e-ink side it still works). I revoked all the changes I made after rooting, but YotaMirror still works only when started from the "back" (e-ink). :(
[YotaPhone] mndgz:
YotaMirror works fine on my one, the only change I did after rooting was installed AdFree.

Maybe factory reset would help?
[YotaPhone] Ra2o2:
I've problems to root it, and I hope someone of you can help me.

I've the same build KTU84L.4.4.3-S01-003-EU1.0.3.56a, I tried Win7 and 8.1 and I tried Kingo Root and iRoot but after trying the Phone reboots and everything is like before.

The only different is that I didn't found the ADB drivers for the Yotaphone 2 on yotaphone.com so I used the iRoot and Kingo Root drivers.

thx a lot
[YotaPhone] IceDealer86:
I used the drivers for YotaPhone, not YotaPhone 2 (yotaphone.com -> Support -> YotaPhone -> Drivers) with Win 7 and Kingo Root. After a few downloads and tests via the Kingo assistant it said "Rooted successfully", my phone rebooted and it was really rooted (even after several reboots).
[YotaPhone] mndgz:
use drivers from this link:

http://yotaphone.com/media/support/YotaPhone_Drivers.rar
[YotaPhone] Ra2o2:
thanks for the hint, but still no luck for me.

I tried factory reset a few times and also the wipe/reset from the recovery menu, I replaced the installed drivers from iRoot with the one from the yotaphone.com and also tried with totaly deinstalling of the drivers and reinstall with the yotaphone.com drivers. Always the same, at the end of the rooting procedure the phone reboot Kingo Root says everything done but after the reboot still no luck and iRoot says no permanent root possible just temporary.

At this moment I love my HTC one m7 with factory bootloader unlocking and the developing around the device ;)
[YotaPhone] IceDealer86:
Very strange. I did a factory reset but it hasn't changed anything.

I found the the real symptom: my sensors don't work anymore. I turn my phone 90° left/right and the display does not turn (turning feature enabled). I start an app with a spirit level function and the bubble does not move. Compass does not work, too. Is that really an hardware error!? I haven't dropped my phone or so. It's accidentally the same time when I root my phone, so I think there's something leftover from before the reset..? Any ideas? :(

Edit: I tried a few other sensor test apps and all say "You don't have Accelerometer, Compass, Magnet field sensor,... " - ALL! Is it possible that they are disabled somehow?

BTW: can you update your SuperSU app/binary? "Normal method" and via TWRP/CWM does not work for me..
[YotaPhone] zute333:
I could update the SuperSU binary using normal method once, the next time it didn't work but not fussed, doesn't seem imperative right now. My yota is working perfectly after root. Sorry Ice, no idea whats going on with your sensors. Have you definitely got rid of all the xposed stuff? Maybe use a file explorer and go searching through stuff. Sorry to be of no help.
[YotaPhone] adamo86:
So after rooting does all the features work? Also a step by step guide on how to root would be good.
[YotaPhone] zute333:
Yeah nothing changes except your now rooted.

Download kingo root and the yotaphone drivers from yotaphone.com. install and go pretty much
[YotaPhone] 6imon9:
I try tomorrow ..tks.

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[YotaPhone] zute333:
Might be worth me saying that my pc didn't download the android drivers so it wasn't fully installed at first. Kingo didn't work so downloaded many drivers and tried a few things. Eventually manually selected the phone as an Android USB device and selected a qualcomm composite ADB interface driver and then kingo worked and now rooted.

Trial and error, rooting rarely goes as smoothly as we'd like.
[YotaPhone] IceDealer86:
I deactivated the Xposed modules first, restart, uninstalled the modules, restart, uninstalled xposed, fixed file/directory permissions, factory reset, even unrooted...

Does your device rattle in some way when you shake it? It sounds like a small ball jumps inside the upper part of my phone..but I think it's since I own it.. :confused:

Damn, I cannot ask Yota for support because I rooted it already :rolleyes:
[YotaPhone] Ra2o2:
wich version of the qualcomm composite ADB interface driver are you using??
[YotaPhone] zute333:
You could try for support if its unrooted? Perhaps just say it happened randomly?

The rattle is a little slip inside the sim tray with the IMEI and serial numbers on it. It hangs loose inside. A very minor niggle but it isn't a build quality issue thankfully :).

Good luck with your yota, hope you can get it fixed somehow.

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I'm at work at the moment, will check the driver version (and try and figure out where I downloaded it from) when I get home.

okedoke, I installed yota as an Android USB device and chose the Qualcomm Composite ADB Interface (Google USB ID) driver version 1.0.10.0 and then Kingo worked. Good luck to you.
[YotaPhone] zute333:
20% discount offer on facebook for anyone contemplating. £444 seems pretty reasonable
[YotaPhone] mndgz:
What Facebook page is that offer on? I might get me a second one ;)
[YotaPhone] zute333:
Just the official yotaphone page. Like your thinking. Shame to miss the offer but I've loved the few weeks I've had it so meh.
[YotaPhone] euroclie:
Thanks to your help I was able to root my Yotaphone 2... :)

Some tips for others:

1) I modified the android_usb.inf file to add the PID & VID info corresponding to the Yotaphone 2 as shown in Windows device manager.

2) I had to navigate through windows advanced settings and menus and reboot twice to enable Windows to install unsigned device drivers (otherwise Windows will reject the modified .ini file because the hash in the associated cab file isn't correct anymore).

Here's my new android_usb.inf, with the added lines in bold. Check on your setup that the VID & PID are correct. The Vendor ID shouldn't change, but maybe the PID depends on hardware or software version of the Yotaphone 2, and could change according to the region, or evolve with time...

Replace the original file from the YotaPhone_Drivers\Drivers\Google directory with the modified one.

android_usb.inf

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Oh, and by the way, Kingo Root installs the 2.02 version of SuperSU.

Google Play suggest that you update to the latest SuperSU version, and indeed the 2.40 version gets installed, but part of the package cannot be updated (the files that are open in memory while in use, I think) by the normal method, even after a reboot, so I guess we're stuck with a partial 2.40 SuperSU update until someone port TWRP or another custom bootloader to make it compatible with the Yotaphone 2.

But even in the current situation, root seems to be working just fine, I'm able to run ClockSync again to keep the Yotaphone 2 clock perfectly in sync, or use Titanium Backup. So nice! :)
[YotaPhone] zute333:
Anyone else tried out Xposed yet? Tempted to try it but would like to avoid IceDealer86's experience. Only really want it for some greenify modules but don't want to lose anything in the way of functionality.
[YotaPhone] mndgz:
switching on the main screen

Just found this out today after finally reading the users manual:

The main colour display can be switched on by swiping up from the bottom of the screen (same as e-ink)

Not exactly tap-to-wake but close enough :)
[YotaPhone] zute333:
Good spot dude, very nice. Enjoying that. Have you found all the things that come up when people text you certain things?
[YotaPhone] parsiabs4:
What a coincident, I just found this today as well !

It's a big relief.

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Hey guys,

Does your App Launcher ( The Widget in YotaPanel ) Reset back to default after a while no matter how many times you customize it? or this is just me....!?:confused:
[YotaPhone] mndgz:
mine seems to work no problem
[YotaPhone] All Day On XDA:
Hey I just got my yota2 and have tried to follow your guide.

I have Kingaroot and the VID and PID on my phone is the same as yours.

I'm on Win 8.1 64bit, I disabled signature verification and installed the drivers fine.

But when I launch kingaroot, it seems to start, downloading some files, then it just seems to reboot my phone a few times before stating it failed.

Would appreciate some more help if anyone can.

Thanks
[YotaPhone] euroclie:
I should have recorder the process on video to show how the process goes. Sorry, I was too eager to see if it worked or not! :(

Basically, it does indeed transfer some files to the phone, reboot a couple of times, but in my case the result was positive.

How is your Yotaphone 2 recognized by Windows 8 in the device manager? Mine is recognized as an ADB Interface: "Android Composite ADB Interface (Yota Devices USB ID)".

Also (just in case), you obviously waited until you got a failure message, right? Was the failure message on the Yotaphone or on the PC? Did you check on the phone using Root Checker or similar application, just in case it worked despite the Kingo Root error message?
[YotaPhone] All Day On XDA:
Stupid me was running an outdated version of Kingo root!

Got the latest version 1.3.2 and root worked

Thanks for replying :)
[YotaPhone] zute333:
Yeah the apps do seem to reset occasionally, not that often but every now and again. Doesn't take too long to change back which is nice but yeah, hopefully they'll fix it in an update.
[YotaPhone] IceDealer86:
My Yotaphone 2 is back from repair now. Apparently it was a hardware fault, so sensor problems had nothing to do with rooting etc. They exchanged my phone with a new one, I rooted it again and everything (still) works :cool:

Hopefully SDK or Lollipop will be released soon. Ok, Lollipop is not as important as SDK, because Xposed still doesn't work there..
[YotaPhone] zute333:
Ah, good to hear dude, glad it's all better. Also glad it wasn't a root related thing. Yeah hopefully lollipop will come soon, Xposed for lollipop seems to be on its way too. Soon we will have all the things.
[YotaPhone] All Day On XDA:
Lost root after latest update

Kingo root no longer works.

Could someone else confirm please?
[YotaPhone] 6imon9:
I confirm. since the last update of yotaphone not work anymore

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[YotaPhone] mndgz:
Updated to 1.0.3.61a with SuperSU 2.45 Full version in OTA Survival mode and root has survived.

All hail Chainfire :)
[YotaPhone] zute333:
shall have to get full version when manage to get root back then :P
[YotaPhone] zute333:
Anyone having problems since the update other than root issues? My chess widget on the EPD won't load and another user is having contact EPD widget malfunctions.
[YotaPhone] manmikey:
I Just tried chess and it is working okay on my device, I had the update yesterday, Its the first time I've loaded the chess app on the EPD
[YotaPhone] zute333:
I don't think it's specific to the chess widget, just wondering if some bugs have creeped in.
[YotaPhone] manmikey:
I cant get the EPD people widget to work since update :(

I've sent a support request to Yota
[YotaPhone] zute333:
I sent a request too, fingers crossed they can send a patch or summit.
[YotaPhone] All Day On XDA:
My chess widget is broken too
[YotaPhone] Antechris:
Just received my YotaPhone 2.

Update to 1.0.3.61a and Root with Kingo without any problem :good:
[YotaPhone] All Day On XDA:
Kingo says it has rooted, but if you check the phone, you will see that it has not
[YotaPhone] Antechris:
No, really Rooted.

I just used Titanium Backup :
[YotaPhone] All Day On XDA:
Strange, I've updated kingo root, reinstalled usb drivers, but it still doesnt work for me

I've also rest the device and tried again. IT still didnt work.

Anyone got any suggestions?
[YotaPhone] parsiabs4:
Thanks for the update. ;)
[YotaPhone] zute333:
Since the update I haven't been able to regain root. Anyone else having trouble? Will probably try factory reset eventually, just can't be bothered with it if I can avoid it
[YotaPhone] All Day On XDA:
Same here. Didn't help with the factory reset either. :/
[YotaPhone] zute333:
Damn. Well let's hope they send out another update soon that sorts it all out. They should have got quite a bit of feedback so are probably cookin summit up
[YotaPhone] deckaddict:
I ran the update immediately on Friday and today I rooted with kingo 1.3.3. It worked fine.
[YotaPhone] zute333:
Thanks for that, shall try again with newer kingo

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Mine still won't do it, just finished root procedure, reboots and checker says root not properly installed, missing su binary and whatnot.
[YotaPhone] 6imon9:
same problem .. reset does not erase supersu. I think it is a problem of residual files ..

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[YotaPhone] zute333:
yeah have found a couple, but can't delete without root, frustrating
[YotaPhone] All Day On XDA:
Yes same here,

su files still found in xbin I think

I've sent off a report to Kingo support... can only hope they're on it as it's pretty quiet in here....
[YotaPhone] zute333:
Have reported to the yota site and the facebook page, nothing yet from either in over 3 days. Taking that to mean they're working on it...
[YotaPhone] zute333:
Chess widget (and presumably other apps that are playing up after the update) can be fixed by clearing data and cache and force stopping.
[YotaPhone] All Day On XDA:
So no news of a fix yet?
[YotaPhone] zute333:
It doesn't seem so. I've emailed Kingo root, seeing if they have any advice or anything. Also going to try a few other programs to root / unroot, will report back.

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Did find something nice though, the back screen locks with 3 fingers. Might just be me that didn't know this, hadn't thought to try it before turning on 3 finger lock on the front display but just tried it, excellent feature.

In hindsight the wording of the setting should have indicated it was a feature to me. Oh well.
[YotaPhone] All Day On XDA:
Nice tip.

I did some digging on the russian forums using google translate.

http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=550302&st=1800#entry38018248

That link is to the guide to rooting the 61 firmware. They recommend using Baidu Super root ver 3.0

I havent been able to download it yet and I'm have severe problems signing up to the russian forum :)
[YotaPhone] 6imon9:
works! ... look in google baidu super robot 3.0.0 apk (russian language)

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[YotaPhone] All Day On XDA:
Confirmed working on 61 firmware. Baidu Super Root 3.0.0: https://yadi.sk/d/iQlZl0cFeFguR
[YotaPhone] 6imon9:
trashbox.mobi/files30/312809/baidu_super_root_3.0.0.apk

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[YotaPhone] euroclie:
I've downloaded the Baidu Super Root 3.0.0 apk, you can get it here in zip format, rather than sorting out the Google results:

http://euroclie.free.fr/Yota/baidu_super_root_3.0.0.apk.zip

or get the apk file attached to this post...

Not yet tested, but I'll report as soon as I have. ;)

Edit: OK, I've tested Baidu Super Root. Not quite easy since the User Interface is a mix between Russian, Chinese and English, but all in all I haven't been able to root my Yotaphone with it yet. :(
[YotaPhone] 6imon9:
Baidu Super Root - Облачное получение Root: http://youtu.be/P6PQ1B85hkQ.. following the video is not difficult. the problem is to uninstall the program after the root. I used titanium to freeze. and eliminated apk in system/priv-app

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[YotaPhone] All Day On XDA:
What happens when you run the apk?
[YotaPhone] zute333:
I ran the apk, the app ran for a good old while. Eventually it asked for su permission, after that it just kept going. I left the app after a while and checked root status which I now had. The baidu superroot app was acting as the superuser. Got a few root things set up for testing, all seemed to be working. Then rebooted, after reboot I didn't have root anymore. Will try again and then remove the baidu app and see if can get it working.
[YotaPhone] zute333:
Right, so I now have proper root, all sorted and settled.

What I did was use baidu super root, rebooted, it lost root so when I got to work I ran kingo root which seemed to give me only some elevated privileges. The baidu super user had been acting up and failing to start since the first root so once it eventually got going (after many app FCs) I used the opportunity to remove it via system app remover, then removed supersu. Then I re-ran kingo root, rebooted and installed newest supersu via apk, updated bianry and then done - had full and proper root.

Hope everyone else is sorted and that this might help those that aren't.
[YotaPhone] euroclie:
How long did you let Baidu Super Root run before getting root? It does indeed request SuperSU permission during the process, but after that I let it run for half an hour without noticeable progress.

Tried rebooting and I'm re-launching the root process right now, in case it finally works...