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[X 2014 General] M3drvr:
Completed probably around 30 by now since fully loading it up. Process stats shows the following:

Memory status: Normal

Whatsapp 99%

Google Keyboard 100%

Fongo 88%

Google App (search) 100%

Play services 100%

Moto Care 100%

Moto Display 100%

Play services 100%

Device management 100%

Play services 50%

Play Music (main) 99%

OneDrive 100%

Exchange 100%

Play Services 99%

Email 50%

Moto Actions 100%

Smartcard service (remote) 100%

Motorola Modality Services 100%

Google App (interactor) 100%

com.qualcomm.atfwd 99%
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
There doesn't seem to be anything unusual, but still quoting few items which I don't have in my phone, just telling in case any of them is making any difference:

Anyways, try out greenify app and see if that helps.
[X 2014 General] M3drvr:
If one can't use whatsapp and if its causing a battery drain, that would mean millions of people would be complaining. Highly doubt its the case. Same goes for Onedrive and exchange. The exchange is just my personal email going through stock email app which gets literally 5 emails a month. Fongo is my phone service which has been my phone service for years now. I can't greenify that as i'd no longer get calls or text messages. All the above are on my Nexus 4 as well right now with the exception of whatsapp and not causing issues. So i doubt those are causing issues here.
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
Hmm.... So how much maximum screen time you could achieve so far?
[X 2014 General] M3drvr:
I'd say 2.5h SOT over a 13 hour period. Standby is more what i'm concerned with. On my Nexus 4 i'll be able to do a full 24 hours with that 3h SOT.
[X 2014 General] nithin1992:
Your not doing anything wrong, its just lollipop being ****ty. Stop trying to figure out the rogue app, I dont think there is one, other than the OS itself. Sit tight and hope for the next bug fix update to fix this thing. Google messed up big time with lollipop, battery life has taken quite a hit and the memory management is totally screwed
[X 2014 General] rogeriorp:
Actually my battery is not that bad, wish it could juice a bit more out of idle though.
[X 2014 General] grubber24:
I am facing weird battery issues since the update. The battery drops like a stone at some points of time (screen 1). This is some days after a reset and the so called battery calibration overnight! Most of the consumption is from google play services!

Edit: also in the default battery stats, if we add up all percentage consumed, it doesn't add up to the total battery consumed. Some part is unaccounted.. (screens 2 3 & 4)

Sent from my XT1092
[X 2014 General] deepanshu sharma:
im facing the same issue past 3-4 days and have no idea why
[X 2014 General] gabo_e30:
This! Battery went down like a rock when I upgraded from KK. Used to get about 4 hrs of SOT now it's only about 3 hrs if lucky. Standby time is awful compared to my galaxy s5
[X 2014 General] haibhailieZ:
Trollipop battery drainer.

Drains my battery like no one's business. Started using greenify again. :'( Around 10 mins on 4g drains 6-7% and around 3.5 hours on screen time without data enabled -.-"
[X 2014 General] Bl4ckX:
From the perspective of a person who owns their Moto X for just about 24h battery life looks pretty nice, at least when coming from a Nexus 5 with the same size battery. 12h since unplugged with 2h SOT and still 50% left is pretty damn nice :o
[X 2014 General] GRS10:
I've tried a number of ways to reduce the Mobile Radio Active time, and surprisingly enough clearing the data in Google Play Services does the trick every single time.

OTOH, I've been getting these weird battery drops occasionally. Sometimes it will drop from 60% to 40% quite suddenly. I've tried calibrating the battery but it always comes back within a week or so.
[X 2014 General] GTCC:
I'm getting huge amount of my battery used on both WiFi and network. Over night it is 50% WiFi, 46% phone radio and just 4% app usage. That is over 9 hours and 12% battery used in total.

Any ideas, if I use the phone over one day I can get over 5 hours easily so screen on time is fine.
[X 2014 General] MaKTaiL:
Facebook has been killing my battery lately.
[X 2014 General] lunzi88:
Just got my phone today, overall i'm really satisfied with the battery life on this.

Considering this is the first day with the phone its holding up really well.
[X 2014 General] unk3:
Your battery only lasted about 7 hours from 100% to 10%, and your screen was on over 4.5 hours of that. I think you may be addicted to your phone.

Most users can get 4 hours of screen on (SON) time if they never stopped using their phone. The problem with this phone is the balance between idle and SON. My phone only lasts around 19 hours with 2.5 hours of SON.

It is the year 2015, I wish phones can go a full 24 hours with moderate use before dying. I know there are some that can such as the Z3, Note 4, and OPO. The new HTC M9 should be impressive unlike the S6 (with a lower battery than S5).
[X 2014 General] lunzi88:
Different expectations I suppose.

As I mentioned earlier, this is the first day I got the phone.

Intensive usage is pretty much expected.

Personally i find the battery to be decent compared to my dying Nexus 4.

That thing barely lasts me half a day with 1-2hours of SOT.
[X 2014 General] unk3:
I did not take account that the usage was based on the first day. Makes sense then since your'e installing all your apps and updating settings.

My old 2013 Moto X started off with 4 hours of SON, then slowly to 2 hours over time. This is due to battery degrade and installing battery intensive apps (facebook, waze, instagram).

Are you currently using KitKat or Lollipop?
[X 2014 General] lunzi88:
No worries mate.

Came with lollipop out of the box I'm afraid. Was planning to get xposed running on it but now I guess I'll just wait
[X 2014 General] neocryte:
Facebook does seem to use an incredible amt of battery. Even when I don't use it.

Could also be that the battery reporting tool is just way off...
[X 2014 General] titotito1983:
I think there is something wrong with Lollipop's battery reporting tool. It reports, every day, aprox 12-15% of battery usage coming from Google Play Services. I think that is crazy, something is wrong I think.
[X 2014 General] GTCC:
If any of you have Gsam installed then can you test what percentage your WiFi uses over night. The reason I ask is because mine uses 50% of the battery used and about 40-44% going to phone radio while the apps only use just over 5% Over night the phone uses between 0.8% and 1.2% per hour over the 8 or so hours. Surly that can't be right.
[X 2014 General] arpitnathany:
For those of you having standby drain I suggest disabling moto voice with moto voice on I was getting 1% drain per hour when idle, with it disabled I get around 0.5%. I am always on WiFi. But even if you are not you should be able to save at least 10% battery over the course of the day which should help to get at least half an hour more sot.
[X 2014 General] grubber24:
No matter what i do, i get these sudden drops of 5-10%. I have tried factory reset, calibration and use greenify! Though the SOT is 4 hours+ and total duration is roughly 17-18 hours!

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[X 2014 General] M3drvr:
Done long ago. I had all moto services except moto display disabled. Standby drain remained.
[X 2014 General] qqhorus:
I got my phone late last week. I have a Pure version. I had around 32 hours of use since last charge and 3 hours of screen time with around 18% batter left. Consistently getting 4+ hours of SoT by the end of the battery.
[X 2014 General] sailindawg:
Lollipop rolled mobile data services and gps services into the Google Play Services. Previously, the two items were reported on separately.

When I'm on mobile data only (while at work) Google Play Services is reported as the top battery user. I've helped reduce its usage by setting Location Services to Device Only. Everything that uses gps still functions with no lag versus High Accuracy mode. High Accuracy mode uses much more battery.

If I'm on wifi all day, I don't see Google Play Services being reported as number 1 in the battery app usage graph.

I run my phone with full Moto service running, BT always on, NFC always on, location = device only, screen on 50% using all power saving screen options.

I don't use Facebook or the other major social media apps. I do use Google +, but with its notifications turned off. When it's not being used, it's off. I back up photos over wifi only. That app seems to behave well, when it's off, it's off.

Overall I get on average, 2 - 2.5 hours SOT, 14 hours battery life on a single charge. Gets me through the work day & the phone gets put on the charger about 8/9 pm. Weekends, if on wifi only, I'll get two days on a charge 3.5 hours SOT. I find standby very good. Been using Lollipop since I got the phone in December. The latest Google Services update has seemed to help with battery life as well.
[X 2014 General] titotito1983:
Thanks man for the help!

Yes you are completely right, when I'm not connected to WiFi Google Play Services is the top app in the list of battery consumption. But, If I'm on WiFi is not.

I will give a try to what you are suggesting.

Thanks again!
[X 2014 General] sailindawg:
Also, if there is poor LTE reception, Google Play Services uses even more battery.
[X 2014 General] arpitnathany:
Sudden drops are most certainly a calibration problem or your battery may be going. You say you have tried calibration, then your only choice is to replace your battery
[X 2014 General] grubber24:
Since it happens occasionally, it must be something related to the lollipop memory leak and restarting of apps or something. Otherwise i get close to 4.5-5 hours SOT and around 18-20 hrs standby. So the battery is fine IMO.
[X 2014 General] M3drvr:
Here's what I've noticed as I can do a slightly different kind of test and still maintain 100% phone functionality. My phone number is an IP phone so all my calls and texting works through data. So I can use Wi-Fi only or mobile network and have no loss of functionality on the phone. I've always used battery saver mode on GPS as well.

I did a day of using the phone normal and I got my normal 14 hour usage pattern with 1h45 minutess screen time. Absolutely terrible in my opinion. This is 90% on Wi-Fi with some sort periods on mobile network, but mobile network is LTE and I can see the tower across the street out my window. There is no real app eating my battery from what I can find but a lot of apps like to keep the mobile radio active it seems. Some for nearly two hours! No idea why, they have no location access, and don't even ask for location access or need location access to work.

Then I tried something else. Since I'm by Wi-Fi all day mostly, I use airplane mode and then turn on the Wi-Fi. Note, like I said, my particular case I maintain 100% functionality on my phone and can still make and receive calls and text with this method due to having an IP phone number. My battery life skyrocketed! I'm now going a solid 40-45 hours on a charge with 5-6 screen time! And I'm not using my phone any differently whatsoever! Leads me to conclude there is something up with apps and mobile radio. To jump that significantly is outrageous! And everything still gets location access due to battery saver mode and using Wi-Fi location.
[X 2014 General] sailindawg:
It's the LTE radio & service. It's gotten better since my Samsung Galaxy S3, with LTE usage, lucky to see 4 hours total battery life stock, but that one radio is very heavy on the battery.

IP number sounds like the ticket, but no wifi for me when at work. I only have wifi at home. Great work around!
[X 2014 General] RJQXCV:
I think I may have figured out the battery draining problem, guys...

This is my first run. No battery saver. Sync on. WiFi on. Data on. Left it on over night. This is great. I'm actually posting this @ 1% battery.
[X 2014 General] RJQXCV:
Last pic I could get.

If anyone is interested, I can post what I did to get these results.
[X 2014 General] xarcom:
I alwayd get 5 hours screen on View attachment 3209410View attachment 3209415
[X 2014 General] grubber24:
What special things did you do? I get those results but inconsistently!

Sent from my XT1092
[X 2014 General] sailindawg:
Yes, please share
[X 2014 General] pro.gangster:
How do you folks get this long SOT ?! I can't manage over 3 hours! what do you do when the screen on? I mostly surf the web , feedly or instagram.
[X 2014 General] gabo_e30:
I installed greenify on my Verizon Moto x 2014 32gb purchased from Moto maker. Today is my first day and it has been a noticeable improvement especially in standby. I have greenified Facebook, Fb Messenger, viber (cuz it kept crashing) kindle. I used to get around 3hours of SOT. I'll report later on what my actual SOT is today.

I used to get a ~5% battery drain when idle and my Android system was always high use. Now android system is not as high and about a 1% every hour or 1.5 hours. A noticeable improvement.

Also FYI (I discovered this yeaterday) if you go to developer options there's an option for " process stats" check it out to get more info on what processes have been consuming system resources.

I'll report later.

Thanks

---------- Post added at 10:51 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:50 AM ----------

I'm also using the auto hibernate feature... One downside is that you can't have a lock screen without root... Bummer
[X 2014 General] BryanHo1128:
I am trying to use tasker to change the option.

If WiFi connected, change to battery saving location mode.

If not connected, change to device only mode.

Hope it can help to improve the battery life of my Moto X :eek:
[X 2014 General] Chekp38:
Yes, please. Same here. If I get to 3 hours my battery is gone. I lose quite a bit at night to but I guess some work with greenify would help that.
[X 2014 General] bblzd:
Could anyone give me some input on which Motorala services are best to disable to save battery? I'm seeing 5-10 Motorola services running in the background and the battery is tanking in standby.
[X 2014 General] manueltts:
If you have 4.4 or 5.0 you could install xposed and use Greenify app with xposed extras and Amplify app (which works with xpposed, and it's worth a donation). With both apps you'll have quite less battery consumption without the need to turn off services. Cheers!
[X 2014 General] bblzd:
Thanks for the suggestion but the device is not rooted. I'm surprised Motorola needs so many background services when it's running essentially stock Android. I guess I'll just have to disable them all and enable them one by one until I get an idea which may be causing this abnormal drain.
[X 2014 General] lizaSB:
Another entry to the excellent SoT pool.

CM12 + Root + Greenify. No xposed (trying to get used to it before 5.1 hits). I will say one of the advantages of CM12 over stock is that I have a tasker profile that disables LTE when I'm connected to wifi. When I tried the 5.1 OTA update, I was unable to switch the radio automatically (sort of a deal breaker for me now, sorry Moto). I have pretty bad LTE reception in my apartment, so I'm pretty sure disabling that radio while I'm at home has made a significant improvement in my idle time. I've used amplify in the past and I think it helps; however, I do also have a fair number of apps greenified and as a rule of thumb I don't have facebook or facebook messenger installed on my phone.
[X 2014 General] gammite:
anyone one else's battery taking a major hit when you get alot of mms. after going to lollipop on my att x anytime i get a run of mms my battery gets hammered and my phone get hot. this did not happen before the ota.
[X 2014 General] lizaSB:
First, remember you are running preview software and it's not a final build. I've seen reports that there has actually been an update to the build that we don't have access to.

Second, do you have good cell reception?
[X 2014 General] gammite:
i am running the official ota on an ATT Moto X 2014. what preview software of you speaking of?

and i have no issues with cell reception at all.
[X 2014 General] lizaSB:
Sorry when you said OTA, I thought you were referring to the most recent leaked 5.1 OTA that has been circulating around here (my reading comprehension failed to notice you did mention ATT). What app are you using for messaging? You may want to consider trying a different messaging app... Google Messenger, QKSMS (a few more bugs than the rest), and Textra are all pretty solid clients
[X 2014 General] gammite:
thanks. i tried google messenger and the same behavior persists. i just did a wipe and will see what happens once i get everything back up.
[X 2014 General] gammite:
after doing a wipe and removing all apps i don't ever use battery life is much improved and the phone is no longer getting hot. i don't know what the cause was. But the phone only got hot when i received a bunch of mms at once which often happens during popular sporting events.
[X 2014 General] tiflao:
up
[X 2014 General] bullghost:
you were right, i have same problem google play services always on the top, when i change to 3G from LTE i got good battery life and the google play services are drop from top to level 4th. i test it by left it 1 day on LTE and 1 day on 3G

this i assume the problem lies between mobile network management and google play services.
[X 2014 General] AhmedFaiz:
Indian user here running selected users 5.1 build for a month now. On WiFi battery works perfectly. But when I switch to network data like 3G or 2G that will be about 30% of my daily usage Google play services most of the time it reaches on top of my battery stats. I have tried lot of things, but this issue still remain. Max SOT I get is 4hrs, honestly not happy.

I think both Motorola on radio end and Google on the play services end need to address this issue. I don't see this problem in the nexus devices that people use around me. Even my wife use a 1st gen MOTO G running 5.0.2 she gets SOT of 5+ hrs everyday.

I am hoping someone from Motorola is reading this so final build OTA for all Indian users comes with this issues addressed.
[X 2014 General] AGISCI:
It's not going to change, the final version has already been released for india.

Sent from my XT1095
[X 2014 General] AhmedFaiz:
According to Motorola official update thread it not released for all Indian users, only select users build is out as of now.

Here is the link - https://forums.motorola.com/posts/a28b48456c
[X 2014 General] AGISCI:
Update 7/2/2015: All users on Retail EU (22.121.1.victara_reteu.reteuall.en.EU reteu) can download and install Android 5.1.

Says all users.

Sent from my XT1095
[X 2014 General] AhmedFaiz:
Are you sure that is that version for all users in india! Which all country's does it mean by retail EU?

Can you plz share a screenshot of your about phone just want to chk weather I am running the same build.

Are you using the above mentioned build on Indian network. How is the battery performance any feedback would be great. If the build you are running is much more fresher than mine would love to try that build.
[X 2014 General] AGISCI:
From your screenshot, you are on the final release now. It's the same as the select users. What they do is give it to "select users" first. If there are no problems, the same version is given to all. As far as battery use, I get 1 extra hour of screen time after the update to 5.1.

Sent from my XT1095
[X 2014 General] AhmedFaiz:
After 5.1 system is very smooth and battery is fine when using with WiFi . But my daily use is always 70% on WiFi and rest 30% on network data, if I use full day on WiFi I might hit 5hrs SOT.

But if Google or Motorola can fix this Google play services issue on netwrok data for Indian users would be nice. I think I am not the only one there are few other Indian users also mentioning the same issue.

Thanks for the info. What is your SOT on a battery cycle.
[X 2014 General] AGISCI:
Now get about 4:30 on 5.1. On 5.0 I was getting 3:30.

Sent from my XT1095
[X 2014 General] AhmedFaiz:
I really hope Motorola comes out with 5.1.1 OTA soon! I am itching to unlock bootloader and try CM or PA.

But want to give this 5.1 stock for couple more months. I got this device in a mind set not to flash anything. I think from this battery we should be getting 5+ hrs SOT on each cycle.

Edit - just found it on Reddit. This issue is being reported two months ago - chk this link and plz star it - https://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/3d09yb/slug/ct0qfv9
[X 2014 General] a1exus:
I'm having an issue with my battery and I was wondering if someone can help me...

Yesterday I was looking at my phone and battery said about 30% left so I launched the game and before game finished loading my phone says it's powering off... I start my phone again and now it says 5% left, I let it die completely, plug it in to a charger, a minute later it says my battery at 30% mark already...

What can I do to resolve this issue?
[X 2014 General] Amisuta:
5 hrs sot, 36 hrs uptime, 10% left.
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
Wonder how some of the guys manage SOT like 5+ hrs.

I hardly get 2.5-3 or sometimes 3+hrs.

Anyways there is an official app by snapdragon which learns for couple of days and then tweaks the background processes according to usage pattern which helps achieving some extra efficiency:

Snapdragon™ BatteryGuru
[X 2014 General] Amisuta:
Wakelock detector powers :)
[X 2014 General] Tinchoska:
Can you please provide us some info? Kernel, Rom, configuration

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[X 2014 General] nithin1992:
Get rid of stock rom and kernel, you'll be able to achieve similar results. Moto Actions, Ambient display with IR sensors all work, except for moto voice. I've just switched to custom ROM and kernel recently on the X, and its really stable, great battery life, many useful features! Overall breathes a new lease of life into my Moto X!
[X 2014 General] Tinchoska:
You don't nessesary need to use a rom.... Just need to disable some stuff delete another.... And you are done...

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[X 2014 General] Amisuta:
Though I use CM, the moto features are still there, such as moto display, gestures, and ir. Battery life is about equal to stock, though with a custom kernel (Render) I can achieve an average undervolt of -100 per step. Nailing down the wakelocks makes idle time at least in the same league as iOS.
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
Then why not to use the custom ROM with stock ROM? If custom ROM is affecting custom ROM then it should do the same in stock ROM as well.

Where did you get the custom ROM? Does it work with stock ROM as well?
[X 2014 General] Amisuta:
Not sure what you mean by "use the custom ROM with the stock ROM", and " custom ROM is affecting custom ROM".
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
Sorry, typos :D I meant custom kernal with stock ROM
[X 2014 General] Amisuta:
Render kernel only works with CM for now
[X 2014 General] grubber24:
Does it really work on 5.1? The last time i checked it, it stopped working for lollipop.
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
Yes, its running fine on mine phone.
[X 2014 General] grubber24:
Is it really saving battery? The reviews on the playstore say otherwise.
[X 2014 General] Tinchoska:
Battery guru drain more battery at the end, it's not such a good tool as it said on pay store. ... you should try paying with the kernel settings

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[X 2014 General] Amisuta:
It only does stuff like manage your WiFi based on ur location and such. Not as good as managing wakelocks and undervolting.
[X 2014 General] Amisuta:
Does anyone notice that their phone has better idle on LTE than WiFi?
[X 2014 General] sonic1675:
Does anyone mind telling us which wakelocks they have edited and the values they have edited them to?
[X 2014 General] Amisuta:
Do you know what a wakelock is?