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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] manbat:
This kernel also works great on the Verizon Note 4 Developer Edition....ran it most of the day yesterday (v5.6)....worked great !! Just test flashed v5.7...boots fine.

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / StarKissed / TWRP 2.8.3.0.trltevzw
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
Will this give me better bench marks lol. J/k. So I not have a huge ass ZeroLemon battery so now can just do performance and not worry about battery life lol

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] sefrcoko:
Strange experience here on my N910W8 with the latest DynamicKat rom. For me AEL 5.2 works flawlessly. 7 hrs SOT and smooth as silk with no lags. Spectacular every time I flash it. The AEL versions since 5.2 seem to slightly stutter/lag for me. I didn't even need to install Synapse or any apps to tweak 5.2, but ended up doing so for the following versions to try and fix my issue. I can almost get rid of the issue with interactive_pro, but even then there is still slight lag here and there. I tried umbrella and Bluactive but get best results with interactive_pro, although battery suffers a bit no matter which of those I choose. Cleaned cache, synapse cache/data, no conflicting apps, etc. I'm not complaining at all, 5.2 is magic for me :). Just wondering if I can do anything on later AEL versions to mirror that 5.2 goodness lol. I'm sure it's a PEBKAC issue but I'm not exactly new to this either so any help is appreciated :)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] d0ubl3_d1zzl3:
I can also vouch for this... I'm also on the latest DK ROM (but with T-MO N910T), so I'm assuming this may have something to do with this... I'm noticing the lag mostly when my keyboard is popping up in Hangouts and other messaging apps... I've only started using this kernel since 5.4 and been noticing it on every version, but so far less often when using 'blueactive' so far... At first I thought it was the kernel tweaker I was using, but I've switched back and forth between a few. Currently using Synapse. I'll try the new 5.7 version and see if the random lags go away. If not I'll compare with version 5.2.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] neoed:
Just a quick question before I use this kernel, does this support baseband NK4?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] psycho4us4:
Yes
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] raw2000j:
I have no lag
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] friedrich420:
V5.8 is up

- i reverted intelliplug to the previous version

- i did the same thing my friend Pafcholini did and used the nexus 6 interactive governor (i rarely use it so pls pls pls if u get lag with that just switch governors..)

Its where all links are usually..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] t83wood:
Same here with 5.2 on DK rom, nice and smooth but versions after that lag, bumping up vfs cache pressure seems to help but also optimizing apps and databases (pretty much just zipaligning) using 3c toolbox for only that purpose seems to help, using synapse. Going to test 5.7 for a couple days and play with it, I can live with lags and from reading this thread multiple times over the past few weeks I'm convinced it's not a kernel problem... Have either of yall questioned this type of stuff in the DK thread too?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] jds3118:
5.8 running great so far! No lag here! [emoji4]

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That's 3 reports of lag on DK rom anyone getting lag on a rom other than DK? I'm on Echoes tmo port and haven't had any lag.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] t83wood:
A couple things I like about the DK rom is all the themes and how quickly dalvick is optimized after wiping caches, faster than I've ever seen on any rom from multiple devices over the past couple years. I'm using odexed and I've read it's better optimized for speed versus deodexed being easier for devs to work with apps, maybe that's why it's running so fast? Also I always have to reboot again because it usually misses about 20 apps for Android to upgrade after a dalvick and cache wipe. Maybe that's a clue that will help idk. I'm not a dev obviously but maybe there just comes a point when there's just too much going on in a rom or too many apps and the most beastly kernel in the world wouldn't be able to smooth it all out lol...

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Alright, cleared cache and data for synapse, deleted synapse folder, booted recovery, wiped dalvick and cache twice, flashed 5.8, wiped dalvick and cache two more times, booted, let it rebuild dalvick, rebooted, let it do the 11 apps it missed on the first boot, left everything untouched in synapse except cpu gov which I changed to umbrella and will see how it goes for a day or more.

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Posting in the DK thread too to try and get to the bottom of this :)

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Update, just changing governor to umbrella core produced insane lag first in chrome then homescreen. Had to pull the battery. Noticed that 3c toolbox app kept turning on read optimizations and changing synapse settings to cfq with read aheads at 128 bytes, so reset that from within its own app settings, rebooted, force stopped it, wiped it's cache and data, uninstalled it, set synapse with umbrella core, row for internal with 2048 read ahead, row for external with 1024 read ahead, left everything else untouched, rebooted, so far much better. Minor lags about 20 seconds after boots when opening option to add widgets to home screen and opening applications waiting for the apps sizes to show but smooths out pretty good after that... In app lags seem much better too so far including tinfoil, Facebook, and chrome.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] bobbarker2:
For those who are reporting lag, does it go away when you turn your screen off then on?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] t83wood:
Not really seems about the same, how long are you leaving your screen off though? What are you thinking it might be?

Actually yeah that does help a little for me, just had some lag in chrome and when hitting the home button...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] Play4Zeta:
Been on DK for awhile and I've been testing 5.7. It lags randomly after 1 minute of boot with Synapse. It's also changing my Gov to Interactive when I'm trying to set Umbrella. Then again, most of my options haven't been sticking either dont know if its kernel, ROM or Synapse. Going to test 5.8 to see how it runs with Default options with Synapse then Ill start tweaking it myself to see how it works.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] masri1987:
i experienced lag on 5.7 and it only went away upon reboot, no lag on 5.8 so far running rapture
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
For anyone using interactive or umbrella_core and complaining about lag:

Before you jump on the reply button and start writing your life story, make sure you know what values you have set and you took a minute to RTFM where it has been said that the governor is designed to minimize frequencies unless it was absolutely necessary.

In umbrella_core, you have three settings that are important

max_inactive_freq_screen_on (default 1958400)
max_inactive_freq_screen_off (default 422400)
go_hispeed_load (default 99)

In interactive, you only have two settings

max_inactive_freq (default ???)
go_hispeed_load (default 99)

max_inactive_freq_screen_on is the speed it will max out at regardless of your CPU max unless the load exceeds 99, which means unless a lot is going on at once when it will use your max.

max_inactive_freq_screen_off does the same thing, but

when the screen is off

.

max_inactive_freq (interactive

ONLY

) is both screen on and screen off, but does the same thing.

go_hispeed_load is the load percentage that was mentioned in max_inactive_freq_screen_on

If you have lag while using the phone, you could increase max_inactive_freq_screen_on

If you have lag when running things with the screen off, you would increase max_inactive_freq_screen_off

If you are using interactive and have lag at either time, you would increase max_inactive_freq

If you simply have lag when you aren't doing that much, but your max_inactive_freq(_on/_off) isn't fast enough for some things, you would decrease go_hispeed_load
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] friedrich420:
Imo the problem is that not enough people are using umbrella_core as their governor despite being recommended over and over and over...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
I should just edit the post since I think we've realized everything needs to be spelled out :/
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] avengethis1:
I don't know if anyone else has problems but can't get Google play movies to work if they are downloaded. Noticed the problem on the 07 and 10 Jan release.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
Some one should make an app that has presets so when ya load a kernel you can just choose performance, battery saver, balanced,extreme performance,and lag plus but killer battery. Lol. Yes it is a lazy way but you know what it would be a great way for a Dev to make money lol

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] friedrich420:
Lol on the Lag + settings ;)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
It funny bro. I was at a bar some dude said his note 4 was perfect. So he shows me. He got the app button and no joke 5seconds to open. So I grabbed his phone and he had it ufc so bad I was like perfect settings and gave it back. Smh. I couldn't even bring myself to help him.

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
You'd get too many complaints that it causes battery drain, or reboots, or doesn't let you pick which parts of the default.

You could make an app that just told you what was there and let you fill it in. That is great until the UI isn't fancy enough, people set the wrong stuff, or it is too much work.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] Flashvetrin:
#1^^^^Here..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] sefrcoko:
Flashed 5.8 and everything is smooth for me on DK rom. Thank you!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] masri1987:
Twisted umbrella are those settings avail in faux or synapse only?

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Err found them

Bumped both max screen off and max screen on values. It's still not as smooth as bioshock but will allow it to Settle

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The lag on umbrella core is even visible when you pull down notification screen BTW.. Its happening as we speak
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
None of the kernel settings are ever really app settings. For example, these are files in a folder at /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/(name_of_gov)/

All the apps do is handle reading and writing based on known paths. That's all...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] masri1987:
Well I found them under cpu governor show details screen. I Bumped the max screen on values that you suggested to 2.4ghz and screen off to 1.2,, I feel like I'm Doing something wrong, because the lag is clear in all portions of navigating system

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derp. I was still running 5.7!!! Hahaha what a long week my bad fellas. Will report back.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
[09 January 2015] [Kernel] [SM-910T] N4 TMO AEL Kernel [SYNAPSE SUPPORT]

Most apps have them, but on the off chance yours didn't, you had a way to still set stuff.

Every once in a while I like to throw in some technical stuff in these dev threads :D
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] bobbarker2:
I actually am using umbrella_core and the problem with lag isn't a constant presence. But if I'm using the phone for a few mins, not even anything heavy, the entire UI lags out and becomes choppy. Then cycling the screen off and on fixes it for a bit. Was on v5.7, just flashed 5.8 gonna test.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] Flashvetrin:
Not sure of settings for folks,but im maxed 289 hardlimit, cpu and perfomance. On the Gov settings outside of the gpu update,we get now, thanks to 5.7, and 5.8. Zero lag on the synapse controller. 100% thing of beauty... running dk with a zero lemon battery, im looking at 3 days and 23 hours and still have 13% battery life..... it cant get any better..... THANKS....

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] jds3118:
Just reporting an experience I had. The past 2 days I've been using one of the DK themes on Echoe tmo rom. I have had lag, freezing, random reboots, and any attempt at an antutu benchmark froze during the gpu/3d part of the test and i would have to pull the battery. After searching and experimenting I believe I found out why. I believe the culprit was the modded services.jar, because since I replaced the modded file with the original from the rom zip, I have had none of the issues listed above and I'm averaging 48-49k antutu scores. So just food for thought that if you have issues it could be something you flashed lol [emoji4] [emoji12]
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
For some reason, not having any periods or commas (not counting decimals and ellipsis) it seems to sound like this in my head:

[youtube]MfnJ24kRlz8[/youtube]
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] Flashvetrin:
Lol ok lemme update my post..

I guess 10 th grade grammer doesnt pay off at 50 years old.

But you wouldnt know that.. lol

And once again you make me laugh.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
What is SOT?

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Foamy rules

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] Flashvetrin:
39%
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] manbat:
SOT=Screen on Time...

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kerneled / TWRP 2.8.3.0.trltevzw
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] Flashvetrin:
Delete
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
I haven't hit 3 days but I hit like 2 but I heavy use

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] Flashvetrin:
It took awhile for this battery to do its thing. I did Alot of full charge and run it dead. Also i didnt use the fast charger.

Something weird,i showed like 8% a couple times and pulled the battery,rebooted and it showed 40% [emoji15]
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
That is normal. What was your screen on time with your 3 day and what was your kernel settings.

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] manbat:
Phone bases readings on stock battery mAh not the 10,000 mAh of the Zerolemon ...a restart updates readings. Also if you are using fast charge. ..charging will stop at stock mAh rating. You have to unplug and turn off fast charge and then replug to complete to full charge.

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kerneled / TWRP 2.8.3.0.trltevzw
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
You may also need to clear battery stats.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] t83wood:
Hey where did you find the original services.jar?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] jds3118:
I pulled the services.jar file from the tmo Echoe rom zip with a file explorer and replaced the one in framework folder, set permission and rebooted.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
[youtube]0xbGwUwUEwY[/youtube]

[youtube]F-Iz1wRR01c[/youtube]
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] zizoty:
Where can I download older version of the kernel? I'm looking for version 5.2.. Thank you
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
Look back through the thread. I'm not sure when it started, but a lot of them were posted throughout.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
If you downloaded 5.2 then you know the location

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] zizoty:
He took it down on androidfilehost or at least I can't seem to find it there.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] jds3118:
Should be in the download center click link in op
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] bobbarker2:
This is the most intentionally funny thread on XDA, mainly cause of fred and umbrella's hygienics. If only the rest of XDA was so lighthearted.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] steve97ta:
Yeah links are gone for a few builds
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] crazynewfie:
5.8B? What's this?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
It is version 5.8

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] BACARDILIMON:
This is why you guys should have backups .

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] grantusmantus:
I'm gonna test this out with Fire Kat V8.will post results in a few days.

sent from my little pony.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
My crystal ball says "Lots of kernel issues" lol
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] therussian87:
There's 5.8 (jan10) and 5.8B which is uploaded today? The obvious thing would be to install newest but just wondering about the changes.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] jpeps:
Please check wireless charging went to Starbucks used Powermat adapter it was charging on and off
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] em0ney14:
That's the reason I would use Synapse.

Great program! !

I'm really liking the Ael kernel too,very nice work between all of you guys! !

Twisted, fried rich, Jamison, faux, just need to get kt on it and there would be NOTHING else to compete.

I miss ktoonsitive governor :(

Awesome work guys.

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One question. ...

What are the actual benefits of using simple_gpu_algorithm instead of the stock one?

That is the only thing I'm confused about
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] Play4Zeta:
Its actually stable and awesome! No reboots anymore and synapse settings actually stick!

Great Job! :D
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] twistedumbrella:
I didn't mean real kernel issues. That's what they call everything. "Are you using the stock kernel?" I bet he walks on water to get to his keyboard.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] louforgiveno:
Hella funny....lol ?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] wing_addict_usa:
Thanks gpu works again
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] em0ney14:
[MENTION=4401403]friedrich420[/MENTION]

Quick question,

Do you have any plans for BFQ or is there not really any improvements over the others to not worry about it?

Thanks for the response! !!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] friedrich420:
it seems to be impossible to have a working version of it for the 3.10 kernels..

at least any way i tried. im not sure if KT actually managed to have a working bfq scheduler but any attempts i made resulted in rebooting as soon as i would choose that governor...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] em0ney14:
Yes, I helped kt test all his builds for the tmo variant and he did finally get bfq to work without crashing, there was an update, I'm not sure what but I guess the best way to find out is to get ahold of him yourself through hangouts or pm I guess.

Or,if you would like, I can put a word for you.

Ps>the kernel tutorial thread is probably one of the best threads on here as far as what I believe this forum should be about, developers helping developers, as well as those with limited knowledge and teaching them instead of showing them.

Thanks for everyone's dedication and unselfishness.

I have donations coming your way, Jamison, Mr. Imp. , twisted,and Brian over at dynamic next week.... with the money I loaned a good friend of mine to have a graveside burial for his daughter this week I got setback a lot because I took care of all the expenses for him and his fiance. Also more funds going to kt747 at the end of the week too.

Good luck bud and if you need a tester I'm here.

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BRB, I'll flash the latest one we were working on that had bfq, I'm not sure if it was 3.10 so yeah, that might be the issue.

Give be about 10 minutes bud and I will be back with results.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] friedrich420:
OMG my friend :( :(

Ouffffff :( :(

I AM SO SORRY!!!

Please!! Anything you were considering donating, PLEASE give it to that family.. Its the least..

Im so sorry!!!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] em0ney14:
It just really upset me that other co-workers only have 2-5 dollars and a card to him. I made sure he did not have anything to worry about on the financial side of things and have been hanging out with him almost everyday whether it is at work or outside work.

This happened last Friday and the service was this past Tuesday. I even helped him pay his car payment and all.

And I'm not rich by any means, I just help people out the way I would like to be helped if something as horrendous as that happened to me.

Anyways, I'll be back in 10 minutes, going to switch to kt and see what's going on .

Any one need anything from the gas station? Lol

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Here you go, this is from the last build we were working on,

,

How do I use the spoiler button istead of embedding the pictures? I'm using tapatalk .
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] friedrich420:
ah screw it ;)

they can fix it for you ...

Hmmmm...

Ill try implementing KT's bfq again at some point when i can breathe my man... and hopefully ill have some good news.. i want that scheduler as well.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] em0ney14:
Bfq* lol
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] t83wood:
Yeah that just made everything worse, you're running the latest DK? I'm using Nova launcher now because when I extracted and pasted the DK version back in /system/firmware touchwhiz keeps force closing, set permissions for echos services.jar and DK as rw-rw-r and tried different touchwhiz launchers from Dks rom control. Nova is noticeably smoother with kernel 5.8 than touchwhiz I'm noticing, right out of the gate before and after adjusting kernel settings and mucking with novas animation options.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] jds3118:
No I'm running Echoes tmo port with Dk's material theme. I was having trouble with the theme causing reboots and freezing.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Original Android Developmen] t83wood:
So did replacing your services.jar with the extracted one from the echoe zip fix the issues? How's the performance of AEL with that rom?