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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] elevul:
Depending how how they implement wireless charging into the phone, I might not mind.

Although I don't trust Zerolemon to build a proper external battery with wireless charging that can be attached to the phone, considering ho badly they screwed up both the Note4 battery and the S6 external battery case: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VFIAKBK?tag=b0c55-20
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Then someone else will make a morphi type power case with sd card slot. Lol and a big fu to Samsung lol

BAD ASS NOTE 4
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jacob808:
Yep! The only reason I went with the Note 4 is because the S6 didn't have a removable battery! Every mobile manufacturer needs to realize this. Having the option of changing out the battery is important, if only because batteries have a shelf life that's about 2 years, but mostly because in order to use a smart phones potential you need the extra power of an extended battery. It's foolish to go the route of an unremoveable battery. .
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
Not gonna happen

Phone+Non-removable battery -> Dead battery after 2 years -> New Phone -> Higher Profit

You're probably better off holding onto a phone in which you can easily swap out the battery just to make it last longer, but who knows when OS support will end for it. THAT, is the problem.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
Yeah what I did with the Zerolemon 10,000 mAH battery is just went and downloaded a App called Battery Voltage Free2 (Just trying it out) [It's a pretty old app also] and just set up the Max and Min Voltages of the ZL Battery when it's full and when it dies and that gives me a good idea of when the battery is going to die (Or in a better saying, it's current capacity.). The Max Voltage is around 4385mV when it reaches Fully 100% charged (But set Max mV to 4250 mV or somewhere around there, because once you take it off charger, voltage drops a couple of points) and the Min Voltage is around 3442 mV. (That's when the phone shuts down and is considered true 0%) It tends to fluctuate of course because of Phone usage and of course its said that mV never gives you battery capacity, but it's much more reliable than the Stock battery meter.

And when I pull the battery out to check the true capacity, it gives me the same reading as the Voltage reading.

I tried Battery Monitor Widget Pro but didn't work well for me.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] d12unk13astard:
That would be epic!!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
I think this also could be the problem also. The stock Battery is rated at 4.4V or 4400 mV when Fully Charged. When the Stock Battery reaches 1% or 0% respectively when the phone Shuts Down, the Stock battery only goes down to 3.8 Volts (3800mV). On the ZeroLemon, it charges up to 4400mV 4.4V (4200mV is considered 100% charged but takes a extra 1-2 Hours to reach 4400mV = Fully Charged) but the ZeroLemon even though the label says its rated at 3.85 Volts or 3850mV, it goes as low as 3400mV or 3.4 Volts before it turns off.

Now, I am not sure if the Stock Battery goes down to 3.4 Volts and turns off the same way, or if it turns off at 3.8 Volts. If that's the case, then the Phone is thinking that 100% is 4200mV and 1-0% is 3800mV which explains why the ZeroLemon stays at 1% for so long before it turns itself off. The battery gets unstable and the phone recognizes the instability and shuts off. If this is the case, then the problem is more than just changing battery.capacity in Power_profiles.xml. As far as I am concern, if the phone can recognize the mV and Voltage levels, then it should be able to read the correct battery stats.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
I am making Progress with the Zerolemon battery or any calibrated battery. But I will start off by saying you MUST be Rooted to try this or the commands won't go through. I was able to change the System set 3220 mAH to show 10,000mAH. See screenshots. I am working on seeing if it finally calibrates accurately now. If it does, this fix could possibly work across mostly ALL Android Devices with Root that use a Extended battery. The app I used is called Charging time. You can use this to check your Battery mAH and Voltages. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.battery.chargingstatus

The issue is that you don't edit the Framework-res power_profile.xml. Even when you edit that file, the system will still see it as a 3220mAH Battery. You have to edit sys/class/power_supply/battery.

The problem with this is that you can't use a XML or Text editor to edit it, nor will you be able to change permissions or edit the file via a File Root Explorer. You have to get Terminal Emulator and type in this command:

su

echo mA /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charge_full_design

Replace mA with the mA of your Battery (10000 for 10,000 mAH battery)

So you should have this entered in emulator:

echo 10000 /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charge_full_design (All in the same line)

Once done, just reboot and use the App Charging time to confirm. I am running test to see if it is more accurate but it's a start. At least we will know where the fix could possibly be. I can say that the Battery level isn't dropping as fast like it use to be.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
I tried this but the change isn't sticking. I still see 3220.

Wonder why?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
Are you on the DE Note 4 and rooted? I type in 'su' in my Terminal Emulator and get

/system/bin/sh: su: not found

With further examination, I went ahead and issued the following commands:

cd sys/class/power_supply/battery

I then tried the command echo

mA > charge_full_design

, then got the message

can't create charge_full_design: no such file or directory

Then, simply typed in

ls

(i.e. sys/class/power_supply/battery $

ls

) at the next line, and saw that there was NOT in fact a directory called charge_full_design. Is

charge_full_design

a directory or a file? Does it exist or is it hidden unless you're rooted?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
My note 4 is from T-Mobile but I am running a Lollipop Canadian rom. And yes, you have to be rooted or Terminal wont work. Also charge_full_design is a string within the File. The Echo command is to change the current 3220 value to 10000 to represent 10,000mAH or whatever capacity battery you have.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
Terminal should look like this after you submit the command.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
Try navigating to that directory (/sys/class/power_supply/battery/)

Also make sure when you enter the command that you type su first and of course, you MUST be Rooted.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
I'm on the Verizon Retail US version. At this present time, it cannot be rooted, but hopefully that'll soon change.

Is there any way to use ES File Explorer to navigate to the correct directory and see the contents of the file you're speaking of?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
Without Root it would be virtually impossible since the /sys file is in the root directory of the file system. Hopefully someone finds a way to unlock the bootloader, or if possible get a D.E.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
So, basically you're telling me that, without root, just about any extended battery will not read correctly, because you won't be able to change the mA setting. Yes?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
In a short statement, Yes. The Sensor on the phone isn't quite smart enough to adapt to the new higher capacity batteries. And the batteries don't have a identifier in them (like Laptops do) to tell the phone "Hey, im a 10,000mAH battery, Calibrate to me" just like your car can't really tell what type of grade of gas you put in the tank. Even if your phone does read the correct percentage, every phone has a different battery statistics stored on them. So a Note 3 will have the mAH of the corresponding battery hard written into the OS. The S5 will have a different mAH and so on. At the same time, the Zerolemon is a Tri-Cell battery which (in theory) android doesn't quite yet understand. I am still running test on this also to see if they're any changes. I don't think it's wishful thinking, but I did the power_profiles.xml edit and I saw that the mAH value stored in the phone was the same so I knew had to be another file or something else to really improve the stats. But basically, it can be fixed if time is willing to be put into it and its something that has been there ever since the Motorola Atrix so it could work on multiple platforms potentially. But if the phone can read the mV values accurately and correctly, then it HAS to be a software issue and not really hardware related.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] silverbladef:
I just got mine......and honestly I am not able to actually install it lol.

This thing is enormous! Looks like it crawled out of a sci-fi movie. Not sure how I feel about it yet...definitely requires a lot to get used to. Excuse the bad quality photos, that's what you get for buying a Nexus 4. I learned my lesson.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] WizeGuyDezignz:
Wow, that looks like an absolute embarrassing joke. Nobody will ever convince me that they need this much battery life to justify the laughable and horrific looks of something like this.

I'm really sorry as I don't mean this as an attack on you, but this looks as awful and ridiculous as awful and ridiculous can look.

People that think they need this much battery life just need to buy a spare battery and call it a day. If you need more than 2 full battery charges in a 24 hour period, you need to be evaluating your life rather than getting a product like this. Just my opinion.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] silverbladef:
Lol nobody asked for your opinion man. Gotta love trolls. Maybe you need to re-evaluate your life instead of cruising threads you have no business into.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Sean Z:
He's not trolling. He clearly said that he meant no offense nor is he attacking you. Taking no sides here, but I think all of us can agree that the battery is obnoxiously huge. I wish ZL makes a slimmer version in the future. Thanks for the pictures! Made my decision on waiting this out.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
Zerolemon prides themselves on shock factor batteries. It is what it is. It's like buying a Ferrari and complaining it's obnoxiously fast.

Well duh... You bought a Ferrari.

Edit: Mine will be here Monday. I like obnoxiously good battery life and the looks! ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] WizeGuyDezignz:
Of course nobody asked, but this is a message board where opinions are welcome. Heck, even you yourself said you didn't know how to feel about it yet, so it seems like you have doubts yourself.

And like Sean said below, I wasn't attacking you personally. You just happened to be the only one to post pics of it on the phone so I was responding to how it looked in general. Sorry if it came off as a personal attack. It was never intended that way.

Yeah, exactly what you said. It wasn't a personal attack but rather my general opinion of how it looked.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Mayonesa:
Is it difficult to use the heart rate monitor or finger print scanner?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ravijani:
Its not a phone... its a tank. I dont have any pants to fit this in.

I will wait after watching those pics. for more reviews.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] silverbladef:
The heart rate sensor is visible, but it's definitely a little uncomfortable and difficult to use/reach. I never used it to begin with.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] elevul:
Then feel free not to buy it. :D

More of them available for people who see their phones as tools, rather than fashion accessories. :D
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] tomashaker4e:
Can anyone provide me with a link from a store that has a worldwide shipping? I searched ebay and couldnt find it, btw i live in Macedonia, thank you :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] WizeGuyDezignz:
Also, look at my history here and thanks. Now ask yourself if I'm a troll. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] silverbladef:
your history means nothing to me dude, and it won't make your option worth a dime more than it does, which in my book it's worth nothing. Your tone is condescending, and very self centered. Nobody is begging you to buy one or trying to convince you. There's a market for these kind of batteries and a demand. I'm pretty sure everyone is at ZeroLemon is hella upset that you do not approve of their design.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] WizeGuyDezignz:
I totally agree.... My opinion is no better or worse than the next person. But I've been here long enough to prove I'm not a troll. Come on now.

Regarding this battery, I don't care if 2 million people buy it. I will give my opinion regardless just as people who like it will.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] robbase823:
Got mine 2 days ago and I'm loving it!!!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] divineazn716:
lol haha thanks for the pics, i was wondering how much thicker it would be... i'll think twice before i do that, i been on a pretty good rom with good battery life, until it starts sucking, i probably wont get one. thanks for the pics though

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hey im with you about the size of it lol. it's pretty thick. ill wait and see more reviews from the consumers that have bought it to see how they feel.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Hawkhell:
Amazing. How long do people need their phones to last? Week long nature hikes or boat trips? That thing would without a doubt make for a conversation piece. "compensating for something?" "Is that the brick Craig hit you with Debo?". How long is the battery life on this thing in normal use?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] OptimusOBrien:
I wanted to get this simply because I'm a lazy bastard and I don't want to plug my phone in all the time lol! Seriously though, thanks for the pics! I will be passing as it looks much larger then I ever thought it would be. Quick question for anyone buying this, is it much larger than the OtterBox Defender?

Sent From My Dynamically Powered Note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
What is everyone's opinion of the new design vs the note 3 battery and case? I think this looks more modern.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] grifter9931:
How do most folks carry this on a daily basis? I have a hard time figuring out how I can shoe horn this in a suit...
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
Where is

power_profiles.xml

located?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
Its located in the framework-res.apk (system/framework/framework-res.apk) Which you need root permissions to get access too. Which you need to decompile the apk to get to the power_profiles. This is what it looks like. The yellow box is the value I changed to see if it would work and didn't really make a change. It was set at 3220mAh.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
What would happen if I clicked Install after tapping framework-res.apk?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
It most likely won't install. Its a system app which requires special permissions. It's not really made to be installed while the system is running.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
The framework mod don't work. I'm still trying to get this new mod working. I have root and I'm on Arcadia 5.0 I've tried terminal and everything goes through nut when I check it still says 3220
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
Can you post screenshots and also go to the directory sys/class/power_supply/ on your File Explorer and screenshot that please. I might not be able to look at it tonight, but I will tomorrow.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
Sorry I initially reminded you that he did before, but that was using Terminal Emulator. I see what you mean, using a File Explorer app like ES File Explorer.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] dam90042:
I have found that if you remove the battery for a couple of minutes when it reaches 40% or so, and put it back in, you will be back up to 65 to 85%.

Sucks that we need to do this. But now I am back to loving my ZeroLemon in my Note 4!

Hope this helps you guys.

Sent from my SM-N910P using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
Are you rooted, though?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] dam90042:
Yes I am rooted. The method I mentioned works on unrooted device as well.

Sent from my SM-N910P using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
Does having a locked bootloader have anything to do w/ being able to/not being able to do it correctly?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
I am charging the Zerolemon 10,000mAH battery to 100% and it is much slower at the percentage rate than before and it is taking longer to reach 100% and the voltages are matching up so this maybe the fix for it. We shall see how long it takes at 100% for it to say Fully Charged.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] dam90042:
What do you mean?

Sent from my SM-N910P using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
I'm honestly not quite sure what I mean, but I'll tell you this. From what I do know, both AT&T, and Verizon's Note 4's (mine is Verizon, SM-N910V), have a locked boot loader. In otherwords, you can't install your own ROMs, yet, that might have some sort of software pre-installed which might read non-stock battery sizes. Not only that, but you need to additionally have root access in order to install the programs that support such thing, if I'm not mistaken. I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you have a custom ROM installed, maybe it plays a role in reading the ZL battery correctly...just guessing. Not only ZL, but possibly others as well. I don't know, you tell me, does that sound possibly accurate?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
Having a Unlocked Bootloader with root permissions still won't fix the issue of having the ZeroLemon read correctly UNLESS you did the file modification. As long as the phone is set on 3220mAH, the calculator will ALWAYS read wrong. That's why every phone that uses a Extended battery, no matter if its a single or Tri-cell always has battery percentage issues. (Sometimes even stock batteries) I was running custom firmware and I still had battery meter issues with the ZL Battery. That's why I am trying this mod out. You need a rooted phone for this mod to work because the files you need to change are in a directory that is normally locked down. Locked bootloader and Not being rooted is only part of the equation. If you can get root access, then even with a locked bootlader, you can try to get this mod to work.

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Alright the battery is at 100% and the voltages are higher than what they would be without the mod so I am waiting for the Green Disconnect Charger LED. It usually takes me 1-2 Hours for that to happen after 100% so anything better than that would be a BIGGGG Improvement.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Don164:
I thought this is worth sharing as its seemingly working for me.

I tend to charge my battery at night so I wake up with a full battery but 2 days ago, I discharged it, pulled the cover off and battery out. I gave it a good blow it eliminate any dust, popped everything back. Switched the phone on and it was reading 1% I used it till it died, removed everything again. Then I let it charge for the night.

Usually my phone drops 5% after I unplug it but this time it was only 2% and as of now, my battery is 90% 1D 0M, 2h 7m SOT. Its worth noting I have the note 3 battery.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
Need more pics?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
Do you see a charge_full_design file inside the battery folder?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
I think he's looking for a picture in File Explorer that shows the name of the file that was modified (not the actual contents...or maybe both?). I don't see it in your screen shot, unless I'm missing it.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
Don't have that file. Which rom are you running?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
Arcadia V 4.1.

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Pretty tired, I will calibrate it and start testing tomorrow. Hopefully I don't have to dig further into the power_supply files for a fix but we shall see.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
That's where I see mine

/sys/devices/i2c.83/i2c-13/13-0066/max77843-charger/power_supply/max77843-charger/charge_full_design
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Been done doesn't work. Good luck

BAD ASS NOTE 4
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
I don't think it's been done before because I am seeing improvements and there aren't many post about it, It's much better than it was before. But just because there wasn't any success before doesn't mean you should quit and not try more. Unless its fully not possible. This is possible to fix, but just needs time to work on, and being a big Battery it takes time to perform test and its sort of a turn off.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
It's showing some improvements then before but it is still not perfect quite yet. But I am pretty sure they are more strings to edit. I would usually be around 85 to 80% by now.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] sefrcoko:
You're correct, something similar was tried in this thread before but it wasn't the the same procedure. This is new.

Fyi, Bacardilimon isn't a big fan of this battery lol, as he often makes quite clear ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
I don't know about you guys, but if you can get 4 hours and 32 minutes on the ZeroLemon 10,000mAh battery without the battery going lower than 90% I can say it's good progress.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
I can't get the string to stick. I've tried my location and your location. The file doesn't seem to be there in your location. I'll keep at this and see what I can come up with.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
I used the cMD line

su

echo 10000 /sys/devices/i2c.83/i2c-13/13-0066/max77843-charger/power_supply/max77843-charger/charge_full_design

it doesn't say anything just goes back to root

I use

su

echo 10000 > /sys/devices/i2c.83/i2c-13/13-0066/max77843-charger/power_supply/max77843-charger/charge_full_design

and it says permission denied...any ideas?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
If it goes back to root, try rebooting and checking charging time to see if the mA Capacity changed

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This is what I am working on currently. If I can get the values corrected, then it should work. I am thinking these files belong to a Kernel.

https://android.googlesource.com/ke...10/Documentation/power/power_supply_class.txt
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
The MA didn't change. I'll try some more at work. Thanks for your hard work!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
Now that we can get back on track, what rom are you running again and are you rooted? I am looking at the structure of Power_Supply and I see that Charge_Full_Design is not the only string that needs to be changed. I am having a stable battery but there are other variables that need to be changed to match the battery. The only problem is trying to concatenate the currently set values.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
I'm on Arcadia 4.1 I don't see that file in that folder or any other folder cept the one I listed earlier. I tried on rapture lollipop and that file wasn't in your folder either. I wonder what's going on. I tred stock rom too.

I'll keep trying and digging
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
Make sure you go to /sys and not /system
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
dunno man
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theslimed2013:
Use root browser. That's what I used.

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Well the good thing about the file explorer you are using is that I can actually change the values. But it won't show the capacity file that needs to be shown. But it shows up on Root browser.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
I've checked a few programs and none show the file in that folder. Guess my phone us a lost cause lol