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[Galaxy S3 Neo Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] l.sabatini:
Hi to all,

i can assure, for my personal experience, latest triangle away doesn't brick my phone as it recognize i9300 instead of i9301... i tried and it changed system status to "original"..
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] xgm541:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q7C6FTA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

they've released the new iteration of their super large capacity battery. I've owned one on my note 2 and note 3. I'm looking forward to the case as well, the one for the note 3 was lackluster.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Araltd:
Did you see the size of the phone afterwards? OMG. Huge!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] rcobourn:
That should come with suspenders to hold your pants up once you pocket it.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] wbchristmas:
I'm going to keep my eyes on this, and order some suspenders or a utility belt to go with it
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Evofusion:
60 dollars seems steep. You could get an external anker battery with 12k mah for like 20 bucks and you wouldn't sacrifice size...these batteries seemed worth back then but with the cheap availability of power banks they seem irrelevant now.

I'll still keep an eye out though because it would be pretty sweet.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Galaxy-Shadow:
an UnNecessary expense!

Why would you need it on a higher technology device such as the Galaxy Note 4?.... I may want an external battery pack that's compatible with Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 spec (Samsung's adaptive quick charge).:confused:

If I'm to spend $60.00 on a big heavy battery of a mediocre life warranty, I would rather my money spent on a battery I can use for other things such as to charge my Bluetooth Headphones:)

not to mention the case is an awful way to make an expensive $900 smartphone look as if you pulled it from a cereal box!

I'm using Battery Guru https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app

and my Battery life is PHENOMENAL!!! SO I WOULD THINK TWICE ON THIS EXPENSE?.. as the previous post of above said would be a smarter choice to get an external battery.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] rfs830:
I will have to keep and eye out for this. I had one for my note 2, note 3 and s4. Use then all when I go on trips and am away from a charging station. This looks nice. Will have to see how this stacks up with the other brands and see if they sell them for a deal.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] iridaki:
I had a Zerolemon for my S4, battery life was phenomenal with it! But it made the phone so huge and heavy, my arm ached when I talked on the phone for more than 10 minutes. I can only imagine how big the Note 4 will be with such a battery... and it's scary!!

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
Already pre-ordered!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] cpufrost:
Hopefully it will come by day promised.

I bought from them last year for my Note 3 and it nearly missed x-mas, a good two weeks late!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] airmaxx23:
Wow, that's going to make the phone almost an inch thick.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] eksoccer99:
I have one of these. it's called a "Brick" in my front yard, hahahaaaa. j/k
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] btort1:
Zerolemon won't listen to us, their facebook page is filled with people asking for a "slim version" that's like their Note 2 extended battery.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] airmaxx23:
I understand but even with BT you still need to carry the phone around with you, to each their own.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
U even lift bro? ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Jstunna:
i pre ordered mine as well! i don't mind the bulky case because i work construction so it gives me a piece of mind if i drop it or something. and ive heard great things about these cases on the other note phones! cant wait!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] martuseich:
There ya go. Case in point.

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I bought the Zerolemon shockproof for my S4. It has served me well through many drops. That one looked a lot like an Otterbox to me. Only issue was the built in screen protector was very poor and sat above (not touching) the screen, so you had to press the protector down until it touched the screen to use the phone. I took it off (easy, just a little adhesive used to hold it in) and installed a Seidio tempered glass protector.

Hoping they offer the same case for universal fit with any extended battery. I'm looking forward to Anker's extended battery (in development). On the S4 they offered 7800mah vs. Zerolemon's 7500mah. I expect they may very well up the up the capacity vs. the Zerolemon again. Their warranty is 1 year and their customer service is outstanding.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] dcdgoth:
Pros: it lasts very very long time, reduced shock holster

Cons: expensive, 1.5lbs heavy, huge appearance, wife hates it
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Grimlock1973:
Had a zerolemon on my note 3 and would NEVER buy another phone that didn't have a zerolemon extended battery and rugged case as an option! I HATE charging my phone every night because I hate the cord getting all tangled up with me while I am lying in bed trying to visit websites and watch netflix. I don't mind the extra weight or thickness because I prefer a heavier thicker phone so I know that I am actually holding something! It's all about choice and options people, you like a feather thin phone that's up to you but for me, give me a solid rugged case and a 10,000 mah battery and I am in seventh heaven!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Then I would definitely forget about touching anything in framework till you do

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
This was the response I got about improper % reading

Thank you for contacting us,

Please ensure you are charging the battery per the details provided on the packaging as it is crucial for accurate measurement of battery life. While the battery is undergoing to first initial charge please do not operate the phone.

*Please do not remove the battery wrapping*

It is required to charge the battery fully for 12 hours and then let the battery deplete completely to 2 percent then recharging the battery again for another 12 hours.

This is required 5-6 times to get the most accurate reading on your phone and best battery life.

*Please note on the first few initial charges the battery life reader on your device is not accurate as it is not synced with the battery*

We definitely do apologize for the inconveniences. If you have followed the instructions listed above and still have concerns please get back to us as soon as possible.

Best regards,

Holly

My thing is, they say 2% but how do you know what 2% is when the battery is reading wrong? Lol...so anyone who has has this battery since launch, has the reading gotten any better?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] saltgrassspartan:
Actually just asking the dev of the rom i am on for a mod to remove dim at 5%. At least if the battery wants to run for 12 hours on 1% i can have full brightness.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
I got totally different response

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
This was my response

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
here ya go

http://www54.zippyshare.com/v/puRaM4k8/file.html

make sure to move it to the system folder then set the permissions

check boxes as follows- Owner: Read, Write; Group: Read; Others: Read. refresh and look at properties to see if the perms stuck then move it to the framework folder and overwrite. messed up permissions = bootloop afaik
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BeauSmith:
Hello, just wondering if you could fix my framework-res apk as well please? If you have time?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5kZr9DSyVSSQVUydEFNaTQtUUU/view?usp=sharing
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
http://www10.zippyshare.com/v/CExie2ti/file.html

here ya go. follow above instructions.

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in the end, i dont think this mod works. i think this is all releated to the chip in the battery that android reads to show the %
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JDevil:
working so far thank you. I don't think my error was the permissions, because when I was flashed, it said SELINUX not enforcing, your package it did. So, my battery is sitting at 16%, I'm going to drop it down all the way and charge it up. Will report back.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] divineazn716:
Hey, Im glad you had it for the note 2 zerolemon as well. so is it a lot bigger than the note 2 was with the zerolemon? or is about the same size? if it is then im going to get it if its not extremely larger. please let me know! thanks!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Mayonesa:
Idea/suggestion

On my note 3 i charged the zerolemon battery externally. I swapped between the stock and the zerolemon. This may be better and easier. From my search i dont think zerolemon makes a external battery charger for the n4 but any external charger should work.

This may be what i end up doing
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] golfinggino:
It seems bigger then the one I had for the note 2 but not really sure it was so long ago that I had the note 2 I can't remember
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
i bought the charger for the note 4 from samsung cause they the only ones who have the battery in the right way. Had to snap the cover off tho but whatever. It is bull that they want it charged in an unrealistic way.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
Do you guys keep doing battery pulls to get the true reading down to 2% for charging?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Araltd:
OK forgive me, I'm a little lost. I was considering a ZL battery for my N4 after having an issue with my factory battery recently (sucks not having power). Now after reading thru this, it seems like its more hassle than its worth?

So am I reading this correctly? battery level indicator is not accurate? and charging doesn't get you 100% capacity?

What's the clear answer here?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JDevil:
I'd say that even thought having triple the battery capacity is great, the fact that it still appears to be read incorrectly by the system with the framework-res edit is a good enough reason to stay away right now. At least for my stock rom, at 5%, my screen dims permantly until on a charger despite being able to pull another 6-7hrs or so. The way they're asking people to charge their batteries to get the system to recognize the larger battery seem to be not consistent with user reports. I refuse to do a better pull every time and begin to wear out the outer rubber like my past otterbox cases. This is my opinion, other than that the somewhat muffled speaker doesn't bother me really. If this battery fails to read somewhat accurately for me over next 2-3 cycles, it's going back.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] saltgrassspartan:
I am actually talking to a dev to try to get a mod to remove auto dim at 5%until we can get another fix.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.pruss.superdim

People say this works.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
Got a reply from zerolemon.

Basically it will never read right in android due to the battery being tri-Cell. Android is set up as a single cell battery...tthat's how I read it anyways.

Hi,

Thanks for your email. We are sorry to hear the trouble. The battery power your phone shows may not be accurate. For example, It shows 10% actually it is not like that.

You know, the phone and the charger of Note 4 are programmed as fast charge function and the battery percentage is also programmed to show the percentage of 1 battery. But actually the note 4 10000mah battery is tri-cell battery. The 10% percentage you see is based on one battery capacity(3333mah) , so the battery capacity you still have is 3333*2+3333*10%=6900mah charge. Then you use 6900 divide 10000 , then 69% comes out. Which is approximate to 65 % as you described. So at this point, you can use at least 2 days with "10% " charge.

As battery is oversized, the only accurate methods to test this battery capacity are based on how much time you can use from 100% to 0%.

Joey
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BeauSmith:
Thanks for doing that for me. I let my battery go down to 2%, pulled it and now have 26%. I see a lot of you guys experience this as well.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
ZeroLemon said no. Said battery will never calibrate with phone. This battery will never read right

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
So then we need a dev to figure out the battery chip reset feature. There is one in synapse. I dunno if that part is kernel related.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Yes it is

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
I might try out the 8000 mAh hyperion.

I haven't seen any complaints.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Lol yet lol

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Well I just had it out with ZeroLemon. Battery going back and ordered the 8000 Hyperion for the simple fact it has a 2 year warranty. I am good with that plus it is a single cell battery which will not mess with the damn gauge.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] btort1:
I got 10 hours screen on time and 2 days on mines with heavy use. Was rooted and used BatteryCalibration and followed the steps. So far it's accurate and the 1% doesn't last HOURS. It's more 45 mins to an hour at most. I tend to charge it when I'm almost at 10 hour screen on time, I don't want to discharge it too many times.

You guys haven't tried BatteryCalibration? Charge to 100% and leave it on for 15 mins, click battery calibration. Let the battery die completely, and then charge to 100% without any unplugs.

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The TPU case is almost a must, the back cover is WAY too slippery.

So every 1-2 weeks, I will switch to stock battery and everytime I always use the app BatteryCalibration, will this mess with anything? Should I keep it at a minimal or is resetting battery stats harmful in any way?

Sometimes I like to change it up and use different cases etc.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00OQB6KRG

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That was the first thing I used. What the seller like to do is make you do all these dumb charging that takes a while so u go over 30 days for refund. I had it. I did all they wanted me to the 2000 won't be missed when need be.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] 2thvet:
Wow, that is the most helpful post earlier..... If you read the last line by Joey, from Zerolemon tech support, essentially the whole process of completely charging and discharging from 100% to 0%, is pretty much for the user to get an idea of battery length, so they can then disregard the inaccurate battery percentage on their phone because it will never calibrate. Lol.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
Exactly! Then he told me to just reboot for the chip to reset...it doesnT work like that. If we can get a dev to get their kernel to reset the chip in synapse so we don't have to battery pull, I'd keep it. If not...see ya.

Hi,

Thanks for your reply. Yes, the only way to get an accurate reading of the battery, is to reboot it. because the battery percentage is programmed to original battery, after you reboot it, the phone will recognize the voltage of the 10000mah battery.

Best Regards,

Joey
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Lol they tried to give me a hard time sending it back. So I sent all the emails to amazon and they reversed the charge same day. Never again will I try a zero lemon. Now I need to flash a normal framework cause my battery read 100 did battery pull and it read 91. So I did it.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
Check their Facebook page. Someone just posted instructions to get it to work. Supposedly.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
I'm looking, I dont see it. U have a link handy?

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Not my work...Thanks cloaker for the tip.

"Duane Stepherson.....‎Zero Lemon

OK, so apparently this is going to take longer than I anticipated, to get my Note 4, to recognize the difference between the Stock Battery and the Zerolemon Extended Battery.. I have been powering the phone off, then pulling the battery for 1-2 minutes, then put battery back in and power phone back on.. I have been doing this when the battery reaches 1% remaining, and the battery percentage will go back up ( I repeat this process until the battery stays at 1%) Once the battery remains at 1%, I begin charging the phone with the battery in it.. (you can leave the phone on, and continue to use it, if you want)..

Once the phone is charged full to 100%, I power off the phone, pulled the battery out, wait for 1-2 minutes, put the battery back in, "DO NOT Turn On The Phone Yet!! "MAKE SURE YOU PUT THE PHONE BACK ON THE CHARGER".. Once you have the phone back on charger, go-ahead and Power The Phone On.. Look at your battery percentage, and if it's not 100% charge, then keep charging it until it reaches 100% full charge.. Then power phone off again, pull battery again, wait 1-2 minutes.. Put battery back in, " DO NOT Turn the phone on YET,. MAKE SURE YOU PUT THE PHONE BACK ON THE CHARGER".. once you have the phone charging again, turn the phone back on and look at battery percentage.. Repeat this process until battery stays at 100%.. Then unplug the phone and begin your daily usage..

OK, when you're battery reaches 90%, Power Off the Phone..Pull out the Battery.. Wait 1-2 minutes,.. Put battery back in the phone, "DO NOT CHARGE THE PHONE ", just power the phone on, and look at battery percentage.. It will be higher than 90% (probably 98% - 97%)..

.. Repeat this process until the battery percentage stays at 90%..

You can then let the battery drain to 1% and repeat the process from the beginning ( my instruction method at the top of this post)..

.. Once you do this process about 3 times or so, you will notice that the phone is finally recognizing the Zerolemon Battery Capacity and you will begin to see major difference and great battery performance.. ?

.. This method worked for me.. Yes it was a bit of a pain in the butt, lol.. But it definitely works and is worth the time and effort.. Trust Me, this is definitely the way to optimize your phone with any battery, to get the proper and most life out of your phone and battery..

Repost theses steps for other users having issues with battery life.. Guaranteed to get best results with this method.."

iI'll try this and see.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] XPLAYMAKAX:
After doing all this does the phone still hang at 1%? No more battery pulls?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] sefrcoko:
That seems to be what those steps suggest. I have a similar question but in reverse... If these steps do indeed work, will my phone "remember" the battery capacity of my stock battery, or will I need to do all those steps every time I switch between the zerolemon and my stock battery? I don't mind training my zerolemon, but I didn't plan on using it all the time and so I hope the above steps not only work but are also a one-time thing... (My zerolemon just arrived in the mail!).
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Good luck

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] charlie.s:
I am puzzled by all the comments regarding single vs multiple cell batteries. It would seem to me that the battery capacity (expressed in mah) is what matters. It doesn't matter whether a battery is a single cell or several wired in parallel. What does matter is the capacity. Am I missing something?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
It matters very much. In a single cell phone reads battery as a whole. In multicell if one cell is bad it takes the others out. Charge is never correct. In car terms. A car battery can test OK but if u let it sit overnight it can test bad in the morning due to bad cell. 1 cell can take out a battery without an issue. Having a bunch of cells is needed to have the cranking amps to start the car. Back to phone. U have 3 cells trying to act like one. Does not work. The brain meaning chip is made to have 1 cell. For that reason my Hyperion 8000 works great and has a 2 year warranty. Never ZeroLemon again.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] sefrcoko:
Thanks (even if that was meant sarcastically lol). Honestly I'm fine with the zerolemon as is. Sure I would prefer accurate readings more or less out-of-the-box, but for my purposes this battery is really only for the plane, road trips, etc. Battery pulls are annoying but the zerolemon case design makes it easy enough. Now if it was more difficult to remove the case (like, say, with the Otterbox Defender) then that would really be inconvenient...but it's not so I'm happy with it in the end. Especially with this tank of a phone in my bag and my new Gear S on my wrist :). Let the charging cycles game begin!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
No I really meant good luck my battery swelled big so it went back. Went with a higher quality battery.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] sefrcoko:
Ok thank you :). The Hyperion looks nice, enjoy!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] artofwar:
Please report back on your experience with the Hyperion battery and the charge levels (charging and discharging) and accuracy in comparison with the zerolemon
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Well they recommend 4-5 charge cycles. So far it been dead on.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] charliest:
I agree that simply wiring three cells in parallel (unlike a car battery where they are in series) without the necessary (active) logic is not a good solution. I have no idea if Zerolemon has made their battery truly intelligent In any event, I anm using one now and so far, so good. I have been unable to modify the power xml file in framework-res and am giving up until someone with more Android experience can assist us.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Modify the framework did not work at all.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
Yeah. Keep us updated on the hyperion. Also, do you think the zerolemon case(which I like) will work with the Hyperion?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] manbat:
It probably will if you modify the foam spacer that comes with the Zerolemon for using the stock battery...

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kernel-ed / TWRP 2.8.4.0.trltevzw
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
He is very correct but the back door is very nice and no issues but yes miss the bulky size with my fat hands. Still have zero lemon and looks as it will work but audio muffled cause sound is no longer channeled down.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
OK so far this was just finishing my third charge. Battery has been dead on no issues with it giving u wrong %.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
I can confirm also this trick works.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
I am not talking about any trick this is straight up Hyperion battery no modding needed.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
Well the post from Facebook seemed to have fixed the % issue on the zeroLemon battery. It's accurate to 1%. Thanks cloaker
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] manbat:
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Do you have a link?

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
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