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[Moto G General] djpailo:
I said a while back that the update will be released in January and I still believe I will be correct (not based on anything in particular other than common sense). They've done it well, just releasing soak tesks and gathering bug information. Infact, I wouldn't be surprised if they just went straight to 5.0.1 rather than 5.0.0. There is no rush. 4.4.4 works very well at the moment. 5.0.0 is a huge update so of course things take a little longer...
[Moto G General] Uzumaki:
Ya ya, you people are genius, I admit it. -_-
[Moto G General] nirmalbalaji:
Lollipop memory leak problem that plagued 5.0 to 5.0.2 has been fixed on yesterday according to the AOSP issue tracker.

Seems there will be a minor update to 5.0.3 very soon. I think most probably we will get the 5.0.1 on Moto G and then direct update to 5.0.3 later.
[Moto G General] vikraminside:
Interesting

Sent from Moto (G)od. THANKS for pressing thanks.
[Moto G General] Sri2702:
Funnier part would be, if Motorola scrap the 5.0.1 soak test and start testing 5.0.3 :p
[Moto G General] Malyaj:
Saying the truth lollipop is much more hyped than it should be.

Having used it thought i must admit it. It is the most beautiful yet biggest update ever with major performance increase and beautiful transitions and animations. It is still in early stage. Most of the apps and heavy games of 500 mb + doesnt support it. The transitions in dialer are so heavy that it lags. I would still prefer kitkat over lollipop because of the support of apps and performance. Lag in the system is mainly caused by these transitions only. I would recommend waiting for final update over soak test or install my personal favorite cm12.

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[Moto G General] brainscollector:
Transitions in the dialer are so heavy that they are lagging ? Are you sure you have moto G with lollipop ? I have't observed any lags with the dialer, more of that, it's most fluid stock app in lollipop. Also,I agree with app compatibility, but in month/two developers will optimize their apps for ART and for the lollipop (it's mainly ART problem and new Api's )
[Moto G General] Malyaj:
Try opening dialer from lockscreen and also open dialer and try to open keypad you will notice the lag.
[Moto G General] brainscollector:
On every phone there is small delay after choosing quick shortcut to dialer, even on Nexus 5 I'm holding right now. So it's delay, not lag. Try to enter dialer app from launcher and it won't take so long because cpu clock is set on higher values, on lock screen it's set to minimum to conserve battery also lollipop buggy RAM management do it's job here slowing process.
[Moto G General] Malyaj:
well man i didnt knew that about that still lollipop it in its early stage, performance is much better than art but still in early stage though. :thumbup:
[Moto G General] vkk178:
Not sure how conformed this article is but have a look .http://www.xda-developers.com/android/lollipop-memory-leak-fixed/ .. IMHO lollipop is still not perfected and has memory leak issues which cause lag .. Worth waiting for this release
[Moto G General] vikraminside:
Happy New Year to All :D

No lollipop yet. Looks like memory leak issue fixed in 5.0.3 saw in google+ xda
[Moto G General] S0bes:
Go in dialer app and then try to call someone by touching one of the colorful tiles with your favorite contacts. You'll see animation but then delay about 1.5 sec before phone starts doing a call. That's a lag for me. When something works with delays it lags.

Also as [MENTION=5695533]Malyaj[/MENTION] have said it shouldn't take so long to open camera or dialer from the lockscreen. I'm the average user and I do not take care about cpu clock and other geek stuff. It should just work without delays because I got into the habit with KK that camera from lockscreen opens quite fast in comparing with L.
[Moto G General] Malyaj:
Exactly. Take it for as an average user. The phone should work fluid for an average user and for an average user it would be called a lag only.
[Moto G General] methuselah:
Well there is always option in the developer options to stop animation scales.... You could use that. Though I didn't yet tried lollipop So can't say . coz moto g just got 1, GB of Ram some would say that's enough for a phone. But that's not true.... Having more than 1 could be a cherry for us like nexus 4 which has 2gb of ram. About lag I know it sucks still on kitkat official I always shut the animations off so make phone quick. Even with GPU it's really hard when In background so many apps are working ..
[Moto G General] vikraminside:
Animations are off and on ART. Its blazing
[Moto G General] methuselah:
Exactly....but when you use xposed you can't use art...so you have to live with dalvik
[Moto G General] brainscollector:
Do you really freaking expect that 150$ phone will be smothest device ever made and all transitions will be played 60fps, apps will open in split second alongside with animation and everything will work even faster than on hi end computer ? Jesus, Did you remember how phone was working 5 years ago and how it was looking ? Buy Moto X 2 instead G and you won't complain on animations and "lags", but put 3 times more money.

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For average user that knows that it's OLNY 150$ phone, he should not expect miracles but anyway really fluid as on present times user experience.

Just to prove how wrong you are, I didn't wasted much time,and I could make it even with timer, but it will show how "laggy" moto g device is... (sorry for crappy quality, I don't have decent camera, I don't need one)

http://youtu.be/PN6DUsDoads
[Moto G General] Malyaj:
Okay, you are one annoying person. Who simply cant admit he is wrong. What did you just say? That your nexus 5 also had the same transition lag?? Right? Now you are trying to tell me 2gb ram, snapdragon 800, 2.4ghz quad core processor and 1gb ram, Snapdragon 400, 1.2 ghz quadcore has no difference???! Now you are trapped in your own saying! You only said that it is due to cpu clocking that on your hands you were holding nexus 5 and it had the same transition lag just like moto g and now you are saying you expect transitions to be fluid, and to get fluid transitions buy moto x2! Lol, you only trolled yourself!

Admit it you are wrong the transitions are actually so heavy that it had your "nexus 5 and moto g" lag!

You aint that much brainy! :p
[Moto G General] brainscollector:
You have really funny perception of reality man. Still you don't know what are you reading I said IT ALSO HAS DELAY, I didn't said it has THE SAME DELAY or even LONGER. Read and understand what are you reading.

Quoting myself "On every phone there is small delay after choosing quick shortcut to dialer, even on Nexus 5 I'm holding right now. So it's delay, not lag. " Where did you saw in this words what I said that Nexus 5 has "That your nexus 5 also had the same transition lag" ? So, saying about "Lol, you only trolled yourself! " you just did it to yourself and proved you are really - sorry to say but you are trolly pathetic person, you just can't deal with peoples without abuse.

Just recorded to prove that your 1,5s about dialing number is some kind of joke.

http://youtu.be/PN6DUsDoads

and for comparison http://youtu.be/pEDQ1z1-PvU?t=5m8s

I hope to see some laughs at you here, because someone has to loose your temper. And I'm not going to waste single second at you from now on kid.
[Moto G General] S0bes:
That's not about what did I or someone else expect. We're talking about lags. And they exist or not. Do not bring the price tag into it.

I do not compare phone price with phone performance like you did when you brought 150$ as excuse. I compare KK with L. And in dialer app there's delay like I said earlier.

Also we're talking about what's happening now and not about what was happening five years ago.

I like how moto G is working on lollipop. I don't say that phone lags here and there. Overall performance is great but dialer shouldn't work so SLOWLY. And here is my proof http://youtu.be/cZfSrRihrUk

The delay is about 1.5 sec like I said.

this is my last post about the issue. But you still can with a foam at the mouth prove that you're right and there are no lags at all.
[Moto G General] brainscollector:
I'm glad you brought some constructive feedback towarzyszu :) I'm sorry if I did sound like I wanted to offend you, that wasn't on my mind. I see you are running some kind root and modifications, maybe it's the cause of it, as you saw on my video, delay wasn't as long as yours, also don't worry about it, put phone near speaker and you will hear that phone start to send information in same time as you are choosing contact, it's just a animation delay because of some unknown reason, so you don't need to worry about it practically. Maybe it will be fixed in later versions of dialer. What annoys me more is that after choosing contact sometimes calling screen don't even appear but hides into notification bar, which sometimes it's really irritating.
[Moto G General] CJMom:
when you dial someone in KitKat it's taking you to a white screen for about a second or so before placing the call, the difference is not that big imo.
[Moto G General] Anon321:
I prefer to see the official OG version of Motorola's Lollipop, instead of some Brazilian or whatever beta testing version, that is tossed like herpes and on which judgement is passed, and later argued what works fine and what does not.

Considering none of you, including me, has the 1st gen Moto running OG Lollipop, I deem any sort of "experience" with 5.0, empty.

TL;DR

Stop arguing about a release that we do not even have, not counting the Brazilian and Indian beta testing releases.
[Moto G General] brainscollector:
Well, I'm using GPE 5.0.1 which is not beta or test but final stable release. So we can compare it without any problems with anything else more or less official. But as you said I Hope for performance boost on stock Motorola OEM as it was better on KK comparing both, stock and GPE
[Moto G General] flyjazz:
Besides the difference in partition tables;not that I understand why they are different,I don't see the Motorola Lollipop version having a significant advantage over the GPE version as it will have additional Motorola apps running in the background. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
[Moto G General] brainscollector:
Well, from my experience stock motorola oem seems to be more polished and more fluid compared to gpe, motorola apps are useful and best of - they are possible to be disabled. Also stock has more functions than gpe for example camera is superior compared to gpe, it simply has more options and with "ladybug tweak" moto camera app makes better shots compared to gpe google camera app. Also, lots of peoples jizzing pants about f2fs file system on which stock is running instead ext4 gpe, but I found it dangerous as I never had problems with copying files from or on device but on this motorola some files just are impossible to reach from computer (I just got simple "file unable to copy or does not exist" error) via usb but on gpe I have not a single problem with files management. So it has it's pros and cons like everything. Also as you said a lot of apps are runing in the background - I have most of them which you are talking about - disabled
[Moto G General] Malyaj:
Exactly, thats what i tried to say. I wont recommend updating to Brazilian ones and wait up till the final version is released and told them about the issues faced but no. Our brainy guy has to throw a row of comments and start over issues on soak test.
[Moto G General] SK Chowadry:
Is a Soak Test “beta testing?”

We do not consider a Soak Test beta testing, as we expect Soak software to be final -- no more development needed. We’re not always right about that (sometimes we do need another version), but that’s our expectation.
[Moto G General] Malyaj:
Soak test is an early preview of software given randomly to selected devices so that they could give the bug reports and the final version of the software that is later released is bugless.
[Moto G General] vikraminside:
Back to dalvik. Some Dolby stuff doesn't work well xposed too. Am thinking if xposed is being reworked for ART as its default for lollipop.
[Moto G General] pritishp333:
Dont worry about ART

So, there is a bunch of kids arguing about some stuff as usual, like dialer lag etc and spamming like there's no tomorrow. And might even burn the XDA down.

Back to Lollipop, people who are worried about ART (vs Dalvik) causing unsupported apps and crashing stuff.

Just want to inform them that I'm using ART since almost a year in moto G stock 4.0 till 4.4.4, and there is not even one problem that i can mention here.

one issue with ART is, battery life almost doubles (that's a nice thing, right ?). I'm not sure if it is specifically due to ART because i've not used dalvik at all since the beginning...

People with different findings are welcome to share their experience, though.

Please keep this thread relevant to information about lollipop update, news...and like
[Moto G General] -ahtiang-:
I've been using ART runtime since I bought this Moto G on stock ROM and no issue at all...
[Moto G General] methuselah:
well its not that much simple

as per revo there are lot of changes happen under the hood by the google....

can’t give any estimation when that will be the case, it depends much on my personal situation. Chance are pretty low that it will be within a month after Lollipop release, and will get higher once I start thinking about flashing a Lollipop ROM myself (which would probably be CM12, and I think these guys won’t give us a timeline either, for good reasons).

I’m still not 100% sure Xposed for Lollipop will work, but I hope that in some way it will, even if it might not be as compatible with most ROMs and as easy to install as it is for Android 4.x
[Moto G General] brainscollector:
It's already annouced that there will be xposed working with lollipop within weeks from now on (it was annouced around 2 months ago).
[Moto G General] methuselah:
ohk

well i pasted and quoted what was officially said by revo
[Moto G General] vikraminside:
Opinion counts.

ART is never an issue. Compatibility of apps is the issue. I do have a modded dolby apk which is supposedly package extended from music fx apk that does not work in ART but works well in dalvik. Even mailed the author.

Its the app that xda banned so cannot share it. As I like dolby experience i had to switch back. It FCs in ART.

Xposed not used being unrooted but learnt that its not compatible with lollipop yet.

I am still not convinced why an app will fail because of runtime.

Eg: Jrockit v/s Sun JVM. All java apps run. Apps will fail in sun jvm due to permgen space memory issues. On the other hand sun jvm is faster to load apps. Refer Oracle documentation.

Sorry if sounded off topic. Not sure why an app will fail until memory managed properly in code or explicit problem with runtime like OOM.

This might look premature statements let me go through ART management. Let the upgrade discussion continue...
[Moto G General] dhruv7855:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=57983121
[Moto G General] Anon321:
Moto G Lollipop story so far:

>Moto are wondering wtf should they patch up on 5.0 since some of the beta testers that got the early access (sorta speak) signed up just to have Lollipop before the others and don't care what Moto needs. Personally I hope their devices will hard brick (it's called retribution).

>Some guys with rustled jimmies arguing what works and not on beta release of an update that is about to be distributed.

>126133167 threads about "Where's my Lollipop?"; "When Lollipop?"

My friend has Nexus 5 and he's holding on the new update, because it's not polished. I hope Moto finishes the job properly, and does not fall to please some spoiled morons with 0 patience.
[Moto G General] Mustajab Is'haq:
Hey guys a question sprung up in my mind yesterday. How much does the Lollipop update weigh in?

KK was 300+ MB IIRC.

I need to know this so I can prepare my WiFi/Data plan accordingly. Thanks. [emoji14]
[Moto G General] AgentChaos:
Lollipop update is around 400mb
[Moto G General] aman95:
Release notes of moto G got updated yesterday. Maybe it is about time now
[Moto G General] SK Chowadry:
It seems Motorola changed system version to 220.21.28 ( Looks like 5.0.2 or 5.0.3).

https://motorola-mobility-en-in.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/102775
[Moto G General] nikolov47:
Let's say this Monday? [emoji1] [emoji1]
[Moto G General] Mustajab Is'haq:
What's up with the frog?

First time I'm seeing something like this on xda. [emoji52]
[Moto G General] manoj36:
Indian update released.. Hurrrrrray
[Moto G General] rchile:
have you got the update then please capture OTA file dude
[Moto G General] SK Chowadry:
All Indian Motog XT 1033 Users Follow this Link update to 5.0.2 will be soon

http://xdaforums.com/moto-g/general/moto-g-xt1033-asia-retail-android-t3001206
[Moto G General] tri_vis:
Where???

I checked it in device, but it still shows, your device's software is up to date.
[Moto G General] vikraminside:
Downloading falcon Asia retail file. Let me try :)
[Moto G General] i_rnb:
It is a another soak test OTA. So not everybody got the update.

Someone captured the zip. Follow this thread.
[Moto G General] kuldeeps48:
Seems battery has improved even more.
[Moto G General] NiTesh:
Worked for u ? :?
[Moto G General] MonoTheKing:
Android L 5.0.2

Anyone from Kitkat Asian want to have Android L 5.0.2 should try this, works perfectly on my device, non-rooted.

or

I just can't wait the Official OTA anymore :o
[Moto G General] vikraminside:
Download aborted.
[Moto G General] NiTesh:
Why any specific reason for that or due to internet connection ?
[Moto G General] vikraminside:
I guess net connection from mobile. Battery saver cut it down may be. Will download from pc later.
[Moto G General] lilsidsri:
if anybody have installed this thing

then can you upload the "init.qcom.rc" file

its located in the root

:)
[Moto G General] thatrandomnpc:
don't u think rooting now would be bad idea :p , moto could release some small patches right. or is there a way to get that file without rooting?
[Moto G General] lilsidsri:
root in the sense root directory '/'

use ES File Explorer
[Moto G General] thatrandomnpc:
oh..ok..the system directory....those r read only files..can't copy them without pc can i..
[Moto G General] lilsidsri:
just use ES file explorer to copy them to your memory card once & upload it here :)
[Moto G General] thatrandomnpc:
Definitely want to help but files from a read only directory can only be copied either with root or cat commend... I just tried now to make sure I'm not wrong.
[Moto G General] lilsidsri:
Hmm okay
[Moto G General] adizz4:
I got the mfn email for soak test today but I'm already on 5.0.2. Wonder what's gonna happen lol
[Moto G General] SK Chowadry:
how do you know this is for 5.0.2?

even few people received the same say that it clearly mentioned "It's an early preview of New Moto App software" not like New Software release.

Don't worry.

I Think It's related to camera and Gallery?
[Moto G General] adizz4:
Bleh....it is one of those. "We are inviting owners of the Moto G 1st Gen to participate in an early preview of a new Moto App software release, and provide feedback."

I shouldn't have done the survey. :D
[Moto G General] SK Chowadry:
Well it good you have already completed the survey. And you might have answered questions related to photos, videos and camera only.

So dont worry much.

Its better stop discussing this. Bcz its confidential :)

Thanks
[Moto G General] Sri2702:
Same here!!
[Moto G General] tzzeri:
I also got the email. It seems the app is gallery, because the survey asked me about a feature, where it puts together highlights or something like that. It asked me if I'm interested in this feature.
[Moto G General] thatrandomnpc:
Looks like moto is adding new members to mfn to get reports from people upgrading from 4.4.4 to some final 5.0.2ish build. & i got the mail too and running 5.0.2 now, i'll opt out avoid misc confusion in mfn.

Now Motorola be like
[Moto G General] thatrandomnpc:
hey if u have the 5.0.2 soak ota, it'll have the modified boot.img & u could extract those kernel files from that.
[Moto G General] jaspreet997:
I think they might have worked on camera improvements and wanna have them tested with the new soak test
[Moto G General] vkk178:
Excuse..Slightly off-topic .Does lollipop update fix cracked screen ?.. Don't know how it occurred in the first place and is very minor .Motorola wants to charge ₹5k+ for it. Any alternatives in Blore ??
[Moto G General] jyotman007:
Here in Delhi service center they are charging 4400

Sent from my XT1033
[Moto G General] vikraminside:
Try SP road Blore.
[Moto G General] vkk178:
Which exact shop on SP road ?? Any other pointers. The irony here is I just updated to 5.0.2 and so far feeling very smooth and lag-less ,but my screen has cracked just like that :( ..
[Moto G General] MonoTheKing:
How can I get the invite to become a soak tester? Captain?
[Moto G General] sandeep5760:
problem with this update

after the recovry update my moto g, 4 to5 hours it is working fine but after that screen turned blank. i try restart,plug charger, but it does not work.notification light is blinking after a call but screen is as it is black.

plz help what i can do?
[Moto G General] MonoTheKing:
Android L 5.0.2 Asia soak test??
[Moto G General] Uzumaki:
You must have altered the brightness. More precisely you have set brightness to minimum. It's a major bug in OS. Hope Motorola solves it in next update.

Now to get back your screen to normal brightness, light a torch on the sensor present on the top. You will start seeing your screen in 2-3 seconds. :)
[Moto G General] aj7400:
Haha bhai ... Jugaad :D
[Moto G General] vikraminside:
No specifics. Try your own.
[Moto G General] Gharibeh:
Who received a new update???:confused:

Anyone know when new updates are offered??:confused:
[Moto G General] Mustajab Is'haq:
Update is live!

If you have Asia Retail/Brazil Retail you can update to Lollipop now.

Check forum for zips if you can't get the phone to update.
[Moto G General] mallikarjun170:
Please post the forum link that you have find the zip please. i'm on soak lollipop with .28 number at the end of system version which have lot of bugs... Please thar zip file forum links
[Moto G General] Juned S:
Wonder so many received on 23rd of Jan in India and its 28th today and I still haven't received any notification till date though I know its being released in phase but should it take so long? :confused: I reverted back to stock KK to receive OTA. And one question guys is locking bootloader must to receive OTA coz after downgrading from 5.0.2 soak I m unable to lock bootloader.
[Moto G General] admax99:
Which version do u have.. 1032 or 1033
[Moto G General] darieem:
1032
[Moto G General] eddydc1:
Latest 4.4.4?
[Moto G General] admax99:
Seems this s for 1033
[Moto G General] darieem:
Yes, all up to date
[Moto G General] MarckozZ:
What could it be?? I have an XT1032 16Gb retail from Arg and I got the update
[Moto G General] aj7400:
Post some screenshots :D

Motorola is heaven
[Moto G General] unqualified:
He got the Motorola OTA Updater app update... not Android 5.0. I think we need to be careful throwing out the term 'update' in this particular thread.
[Moto G General] vikraminside:
What is the scheduled interval (frequency) of OTA checking for updates from the server?
[Moto G General] vlt96:
Everyone here is so excited about Lollipop, and I'm just looking around seeing how there's no one with a 4G model getting anything :(
[Moto G General] Neorift:
Google Play Store says the Motorola Update Services is incompatible with my phone. Wat?

Moto G (XT1028) should be able to use the app/receive the update, correct? Or am I totally lost here?
[Moto G General] ATTACK:
CDMA uses a different app. It's called 3c_OTA.

Also the XT1028 & XT1031 wont be getting Lollipop at the same time as the other Moto G's. We have to wait for "Carrier Testing" (AFAIK).