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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] iridaki:
Not to mention that (at least the one for the S4) it was covering the speaker.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOB Dave:
Yes the case does cover the speaker BUT there are ribs on the bottom of the case that funnels the sound out the bottom of the case and it appears to be louder to me.

~Dave
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] rwitmer:
One thing I noticed about the case is the audio is muffled a bit. I had people complain they couldn't hear me correctly. I use headphones when making important calls and open the charge port and speak directly into that. The phone is upside down.

I really love the square edges. The phone stands on end and on its side all by itself, enough to watch video, cam, take pictures, selfies, etc. Nice!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] rwitmer:
Here is an interesting note about my battery conditioning experience so far.

1. 1st discharge cycle I ran it down to 14% before putting it back on the charger.

2. 2nd discharge cycle I did a deep and total discharge. I ran it down to 1% and kept running. It ran for another 12 hours, 6 of heavy use and 6 of idle, before it died. Below a certain percentage, 5% (exactly), the screen dimming kicks in and you can't override it. Plus you can't use the camera anymore due to a "low power warning" popup that dismisses but closes the application.

I left it powered down on the charger for maybe 5 hours before it reported that the battery was green and 100% charged. As soon as I powered it up, it reported it was at 60% charge. At that point I immediately powered down and put it back on the charger. It took another good 5 hours to report 100% again and after I powered up it reported 100%. Within a an hour it was down to 85% 3.5 hours later it's down to 67%. I think this isn't accurate and where the "conditioning" or calibration comes in. My old Note 2 after a full days work, 10 hours, would only be down to most maybe 85%.

3. 3rd discharge cycle. It ran for a day and half on 1% before it died. Turned off and charging after 6 hours it reported a green LED and 100%. But as soon as I powered it up it reported 57%. I turned it off and back on the charger for another 6 hours before it lite up to green again at 100%. I booted up and it read 100% charge. After 20 minutes it said it was down to 93%.

I'm getting the idea from other postings here that "conditioning the battery" has nothing to do with the battery itself, but more to do with the phone's calibration of what it thinks the battery is doing. If this is the case, then why not have some smarter battery software manage this. It's a big inconvenience to do these deep power cycles. I'm lucky to still have an additional month left of service on my Note 2 that I'm using as a backup device. Otherwise I wouldn't do any of this.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] silverbladef:
Returned mine. Not worth it.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jimweda:
Can't wait, should be here today.

I just hate having to deal with carrying an extra battery personally. And, you don't want to have that battery bare in your pocket because if any type of metal hits those contacts or even worse you sit on it wrong and it bends the battery or too much weight or pressure is put on that battery and you're talking serious injury. Have you guys/gals that carry extra batteries ever seen a lipo fire? Its not something you want anywhere near your body when that happens.

I used to fly a lot of RC planes/Cars/Helicopters that used Lipo batteries and have seem some seriously vicious fires and small explosions that literally obliterated these vehicles. Its just so much easier for me, and this is just me, I'm not speaking for anyone else but they have yet to make a stock battery that would last even close to a full day. Granted I'm on the HEAVY user group but that's why I purchase a smartphone that does everything. I definitely get my money's worth out of my phones and thats how I like it.

The other day I was testing out a new game called The Walking Dead for about 20 minutes while waiting for an event to end. I was at approximately 75% and after I quit the game my battery was down to 23%. That's just not acceptable for someone like myself and what I put my phone through. Its not for everyone but I love these Zerolemon batteries since I first used them in my Galaxy S4. I thought it was a monster but after a week or so it seemed very normal and never had to charge my battery in 2 years except for 2 times where I was constantly on the phone doing stuff.

I know this 10k is going to be a monster and the case looks huge but it is going to be a welcome site. Plus, the cases for the Note 4 looks very similar to an otter box and I feel like it will take a pounding which is something I need in my line of work.

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Was it the size, weight, case? I know not everyone will like this mammoth of a battery, but I'm just curious as to why you purchased it and changed your mind once it arrived. Personally I'm expecting a brick, literally but, I'm going to put it through its paces for the first week just to see if I can burn through the battery in a day/night.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] rwitmer:
It is a brick. I call it my manly-man phone and not a skinny jeans gurly phone anymore.

3-1/2 inches wide x 6-3/8 inch long x 13/16 inch deep

89 mm wide x 163 mm long x 20 mm deep

It's hefty, not sure exactly how much it weighs. Half of my button down work shirts with a front pocket, it won't fit into. But the battery absolutely lasts 3 days with full time usage. Like I said before, when it gets to 1% charge it still has 12 more hours to go. This absolutely will not leave me dead in the middle of the day or even late at night when I absolutely need it to work. I put it on the charger when I'm sleeping and I'm good to go for another day and then some.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] silverbladef:
It's bulky. Incredibly bulky. Too bulky. It doesn't feel like the same device anymore. The edges collect dust like no tomorrow. The speaker sounds like $H!T due to the lack of cutouts. Most of the time it doesn't charge to 100%, and it drops to 1% really faster yet maintain 5 to 6 hours of usage on 1%. Unacceptable. Couldn't calibrate it to save my life. Basically it wasn't a good investment. A spare battery and a charger for half the price is a whole better deal for me.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOB Dave:
Leather Pouch/Case

I'm looking for a Leather case with belt loops for this now, the plastic belt clip bracket didn't last 2 days when while getting in the car the bracket hit the seat belt buckle and the clip popped off. I have been searching around for a horizontal case that will fit the phat note 4 without success, the approximate dimensions are 6½x3½x7/8 inches (165x90x20 mm). Am at a loss as the where to look further.

~Dave
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] rwitmer:
It's been down here at 1% for almost 2 days.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3znZ2NfTGdaSUx2NVo4OXFBbkU/view
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] btort1:
How long does it take for your phone to get used to the extended battery? I see tons of people with 1% left but has a lot of battery left
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jimweda:
Wow, what a monster...

You're right about the size of this thing. It'sa beast but for someone who works 12 to 18 hour days, rarely has convenient access to an outlet and refuses to carry spare batteries in my pocket, this is the only way for me to go. I just wish the had the spare holsters available like they do for the Note 2 and 3. I'm glad the pports have dust covers also. This will help keep things clean in the environment I work in.

I know those of you who keep saying to just get a spare battery is better, in my case it isn't for me. I would have to carry 2 extra batteries and I will never put them in my pocket since I don't walk around with a backpack or anything to carry them in. Ever see a lithium fire or burn? I was at a do-it-yourself store one day and saw a guy severely burn his leg because he had a spare battery in his pocket. They are too volatile to put in a pocket.

Overall, I'm glad Zerolemon makes a power user battery for the rest of us.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ooimo:
It's huge and impossible to calibrate, even when you delete battery stats and follow their directions it dives to 1% and stays there for 12+ hours. That is the only problem.

Does anyone know if where the file containing the stock battery information is? I'd like to try modifying that directly.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] d4rkkn16ht:
If you really want to calibrate the battery the correct way:

ROOT the phone

Deplete your battery until you can't turn it on again.

Charge your phone to 100% (Phone is still OFF)

Try disconnecting the charger & reconnect it to see if it still charging.

Repeat No.4 until it is truly 100%

Deleting battery status data (2 options) while still plugged in to the charger:

Using CWM Recovery (AROMA File Manager is preferred) find & delete "/data/system/batterystats.bin"

OR

Using ROOT File explorer (or ES File Explorer) to find & delete "/data/system/batterystats.bin"

Remember that your phone must be off all the time during Calibration Charging (0% - 100%) & keep it plugged in to the charger until battery status is deleted.

Power on your Phone only when you are ready to delete battery status file.

After deleting battery status file, unplug the phone.

It is tempting to buy this giant battery but the size is a turn off for me :)

I have a battery pack (OEM Battery,OEM Slim External Battery Charger,Slim Battery Case) bonus when I bought my Note 4 & I charge my Note 4 every 2 days, so it is enough for me.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ooimo:
No, I tried that before doing some research about battery-stats.bin. That file actually just shows the stats since discharge and will only work to calibrate it when you have the stock battery.

I may have found the solution, it involves changing the stock battery information from 3220 to 10000 in the framework files. I'm yet to try it as I don't have a computer handy and I can't edit the apk on my phone. If you have root I suggest you try this, that way when you delete the battery stats file the phone will think the stock battery is 10000mAh.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
I'll do it. Do you have a link? :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] rwitmer:
I knew it! All this battery draining and conditioning is a MYTH! It's a software problem not a hardware problem. Battery University says that allowing Lithium Ion batteries to drain completely can damage the battery.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ooimo:
No, no link. You need to change 3220 to 10000 in /system/framework/framework-res.apk/red/xml/power_profile.xml

Use google to find a guide on editing framework-res. Most guides will be about theming but it's the same idea. Remember to make a backup of the apk and do a nandroid because it's a very important system file.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
Thanks. I will do this when I get home!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
Let us know if it works or if you fix the apk.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] rwitmer:
Any chance this could get wrapped into an app that non-rooted users could run to update their phones?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
Yeah... I have no experience doing any of this, but I bootlooped my phone line 10 times and was unable to get it to stick/boot with a modified version.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
Dang. I'd start trying but my zero lemon won't be here till next week
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] webmanya:
I tried the guides that I can find but decompiling and recompiling of the framework-res.apk is not consistent. What I mean is I get different files after recompiling, although I follow the guides every step and causes boot loops for me.

I you have the time it will be much appreciated if you can share us with a guide. Thank you.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOB Dave:
I located the file and found a trick, rename the .apk to .zip and opened it with WINRAR and extracted the power_profile.xml file and edited the 3220 to 10000 with a hex editor. I went to rename framework-res.apk to a backup name and I could not, I have my edited version in the download directory but I don't want to just overwrite. I am not rooted.

~Dave
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ooimo:
You need root, because you're modifying a file in the system directory.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] saltgrassspartan:
Had anyone had any luck with this method? Has anyone tried to get with a theme who could help on this matter? I have the note 4 with the zl and would like to try this but it is above my working knowledge. TIA!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
I asked a dev to try their hand at the mod. He's is very busy. So when I get the test mod to try and if it works, I will post it, unless someone does it first.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] saltgrassspartan:
Thanks! Going to try a calibration app out in the mean time
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Dies not work I tried

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Since you did this does it work. Or did the 1% last for hours

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ooimo:
Yeah it works for me.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
How did you decompile, recompile, and inject it into the framework folder?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
You have to have know how to decompile and edit then recompile. Then copy it into your system/framework using root explorer and then it will reboot. Just go back in and check. If you good then permissions will match.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] elite-fusion:
Been watching this. First time ever on sale, per 3*xcamel.

Original $61 =====>>>> Sale $55 includes shipping

Coupon code: ZLEMY668

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q7C6FTA
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JDevil:
What note 4 did you have? Were you stock? I tried and was receiving odex errors in the bootlog. Im stock VZW dev . Thanks
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ooimo:
I'm on a deodexed rom
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] sefrcoko:
Ordered my Zerolemon early last week and hoping to have it soon. If no one has been able to try the compiling/recompiling trick by then, then I will try and post an update here. For those who want a tutorial, something like this should do the trick (be careful unless you know what you are doing):

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=20677748
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
Do you have to be deodexed?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] rwitmer:
Are the AT&T and Verizon Note 4's out-of-luck because the root issue? Last I checked there isn't a work-around for the NSA locked boot loader issues yet.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
No every ROM has framework apk. You just have to do it every time you flash a ROM.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Magnesus:
Also keep in mind that you can't easily drain battery to zero because they have fail-safes that prevent it - a battery will normally disconnect before it is completely drained and would need to be left uncharged for a long time to damage itself.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JDevil:
Thank you...I'll have to try this again. I am however looking to go to 4.4.4 stock ANJ deodexed. Don't really want to tempt more issues. Might wait. Will report back.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
This is the email i got from zerolemon.

Thanks for your email. I do apologize for your

frustration.

At this time may I ask if you could please try the

charging directions below.

This may help you on the issue you encountered.

1.Please turn off the fast charging option each time

you charge it.

( fast charge will only charge the battery 1/3 of the

way as fast charge option will not know how to fully charge the 10000mah

battery to 100%)

2.Your battery must be charged in your phone while it

is off for at least 12 hours for the first initial charge.

3.Use the battery to 2% before you perform the 2nd

charging cycle.

Charge the battery for another 12 hours straight for at

least 4 more cycles.

Don't stop charging even it reaches 100% within 4

hours. Because the power percentage is programmed to original battery.

So actually it doesn't get fully charged even if it

shows 100% until you have completed the charging cycles to sync the battery

with your phone.

Please let me know if you have further concern.

I know this may be time consuming but is vital to get

the best out of your battery.

We will await good news.

Christi

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
I tried the fix and I get bootloops also. Im gonna keep trying. I 2ont let it defeat me lol
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
What fix did you try?

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
the xml edit so the phone knows i have a 10000 mah battery not a 3220 or whatever stock is lol
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Well I did that but. Battery still drains fast.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
So it kind of reads right I guess but on stock deodex still getting drain at first 25%

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
i did it! took about 10 mins total.

i would just like a more accurate reading when it came to how much juice was actually left. when you reboot the stats for the battery were all messed up.we shall see how this works.

i will post a tutorial on how to do it unless someone beats me to it by the weekend
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
I did it also. I'm on my first charge cycle since doing this mod. I don't really notice any difference yet. I'll keep everyone updated though.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
This mod is just to get the % reporting right? Thats How I Perceived It.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Correct so you should not get low and pull battery and it jump up to like half. Should stay as is. Also when charge to max should be true max

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
It does work . before with out modded file when my phone reached under 20% the screen would go very dim and everything would lag. Not I am at 6% still at full brightness. Tomorrow I will test how battery runs. Right now doing the different charge cycles.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] divineazn716:
hey guys so im contemplating if i should get the zerolemon, i love the fact that its going to at least last for 2 days of usage but i was wondering about the size? im about 5'8 and im average size. i was wondering how does it feel in everyones pocket? i dont wear skinny jeans but looking at the picture, it looks crazy big. how do the rest of you wear it? im not really a fan of the belt thingy so just wanted to hear from you guys.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] btort1:
I feel bad for non root Note 4 owners, BatteryCalibration is awesome!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
Battery calibration does nothing as noted by a Google engineer.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
Does this mean we can use fast charge fully now since we have changed the power profile to reflect the 10000mah?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] saltgrassspartan:
I'm 5' 6" and people say is a laptop on my waist but they are just jealous. I use a leather pouch instead of the clip that comes with it. EBay for about $5 to $7.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] rwitmer:
1. Can you provide the reference for this? Thanks! I thought this was correct from the start. But there are so many "I wanna" believers out there that the masses drown out the logic and it becomes "urban myth".

2. You guys that are rooting your Note 4 to make these mods, what carriers did you get your phone from? I'm on AT&T and heard that full root is not possible yet, only partial root. Would partial root be enough to make this mod?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
I'm on sprint. And not sure what partial root is. Lol

And....

http://www.xda-developers.com/googl...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
TMOBILE is the best since bootloaders not locked down.

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I bought one from eBay and man it a very tight fit. Tried to stretch it out but having no luck lol

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Gonna say no sir to that

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] shawnpuerto:
I can see why this would make the phone seem quite large. There is a spare bathroom in my basement that has a very low ceiling, and it makes my wife (5 feet, 4 inches) seem quite tall.

A large phone either makes you look tiny, or the phone seemingly absurdly large.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] divineazn716:
thanks for the reply but im guessing that it's too big to put in your pocket then? i dont want to put it in a pouch or anything like that, just wanted to know how it felt in the pocket? lol thanks for the prompt feedback on that though.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] rwitmer:
..."Is that a Note 4 with a Zerolemon OR are you just glad to see me". Haha!

I can fit mine in my jeans front pocket, but I wouldn't try to sit down or get into my car with it in there. Only about half of my work button down shirts will it fit into the shirt pocket. I do find myself carrying it by hand around much more than I care to. Since it's winter here I can carry it in my jacket pocket but I'm afraid it will fall out and explode. LOL Insured for drops but don't want to tempt fate or go through the hassle of a broken phone.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] saltgrassspartan:
Ouch just ouch!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JDevil:
What version do you have? I'm still having trouble getting past bootloops.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Seresdracula:
Hey guys! I just ordered this online. I see all the pictures posted and btw thank you for posting the pictures.

This phone looks like a monster! And I love it. I first got one when I had a Galaxy s3.

I got it again for the LG G3(RIP because I hard bricked it and killed it completely.)

And now I have the N4 and ordered it as well. I plan on using the hell out of this. I don't mind the size. At some point your eyes get used to it .

I can't wait for it to get here ! Long live Zero Lemon and their wondrous batteries that give my phone their own zip code.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] golfinggino:
I picked up a used note 4 last night and it came with this zerolemon 10,000 mah battery ( also came with 2 otterbox cases and 2 128gb microsd cards :) this battery is a beast in both size and performance.

my note 4 is stock so far - and today I am at about 7 hours screen on time with 67 % remaining. I had a zerolemon on my old note 2 and never ending up getting one for my note 3.

in my opinion it really is too big for everyday use I will mainly use it on the weekends where I am on the phone a lot and cant make it through the day on a normal battery and would rather not have to turn the phone off and replace with another standard battery.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
the canadian rogers version running rapture 2.3

link me your framework-res.apk and ill do it when i get home from work tomorrow

the main thing is setting the permissions on the new apk before you overwrite the one in the system/framework folder
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Flashed mine without permission done and it worked. When I rechecked it was set right but charging still off. Last night it was from full to 2% at 12 hrs sot. Today I am at 11hrs sot with 40% left. The battery does what it wants lol

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cloaker:
Same here. It's all over the place. Is it the battery or the phone? I might get a different extended battery if it's zerolemon.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
To hard to tell with the stupid charge cycles they want. They should of shipped them all set up already. They do charge cycles they test em before they ship em out

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] imnoob55:
That thing is a monster...