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[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
I hope it's not true - I'm running Lollipop on my Note 2 (CyanogenMod 12) and like it A LOT. The memory management seems so much better and multitasking is more reliable.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DanDroidian:
The Note 4 will NOT get Lollipop before February.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is just fooling themselves. We will get "official" whispers of it around Christmas, but that's it.

Wait and see.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dr.m0x:
Wait and see is exactly what we have to do, lol.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] velimr:
what's actually wrong with 4.4.4 that 5 is so urgent? nothing much, and except floating compose button and few other additions note 4 has almost the look of tw in lollipop..

on a side note that guy over at sm Quark100 sounds like a bot or whatever repeating same comment over and over again..

on a side side note it's a sunny Sunday, over and out
[Galaxy Note 4 General] toofimoofi:
ART !!! Thats the only reason!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] southpaw2:
Thats so true!! The favorites in the dialer should be large boxes, everything is too small and looks jammed up.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
I am also expecting Lollipop for the same reason - ART
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ciscostud:
Why wait? You can already run ART on Note 4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] #1RAGE:
Yes but from what I am a hearing it is quite buggy and not worth switching to in 4.4.4. I have not tried it myself.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ciscostud:
I've been using it for a month and it works great. There are just a few caveats.

-Don't use Xposed

-Don't Update S-Health (use stock version only)

-Has to optimise apps every reboot

-Use only stock launcher

Other then that it works very smooth and gets rid of a lot of lag.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] 2dorr:
Wait, why to use only the stock launcher?

I am on ART with Nova launcher and I do not reboot my phone at all.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
I have used ART on Note 4.. Its not stable.. so many force closes.. So waiting for proper ART functioning on Lollipop :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pikul:
Yeah im also using nova launcher on my htc one with lollipop, no issues at all [emoji2]

Sent from my Galaxy NOTE 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dr.m0x:
This. The kit Kat implementation is pretty much alpha software, maybe beta at a stretch. It's come a long way since Google launched 4.4 like a year ago.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] isaakmg:
Note 3 Vietnam with Lollipop....Samsung poor company....

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Gala...droid-5.0-Lollipop-OTA-more-to-follow_id63810
[Galaxy Note 4 General] henklbr:
That's still ALPHA or BETA-firmware!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] velimr:
before someone starts to troll snapdragon is getting it before exynos and blah **** 915S is exynos version.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mih3y:
Well its Note Edge (Snapdragon). But i am not saying they wont get it at the same time )
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Mussels84:
it may not cheer you up, but i've got snapdragon so at least some of us get it :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] velimr:
not directed to any of you.. there was a troll on sammobile saying he is in Samsung R&D and that exynos will get it later.. anyway, who knows.. AFAIK 915S is exynos version and is good to see we might get them soon for all..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mih3y:
del
[Galaxy Note 4 General] velimr:
then samsung site must be wrong http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/skt/SM-N915SZWESKC-spec .. anyway, whatever, peace :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Mussels84:
no offense taken of course, i'm just as excited as you are. It's in the hands of our lords and masters at samsung who gets it first, but i'm definitely excited.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mih3y:
When Sammobile says that a build has been leaked, does that mean they will upload it to their web?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ausboy 2011:
Hopefully the release the leak
[Galaxy Note 4 General] megatooth:
Let's hope that 5.0.1 doesn't mean another delay.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] isaakmg:
Where is the link of download leak of 5.0.1 for note 4 snapdragon?[emoji25]
[Galaxy Note 4 General] henklbr:
There's NO and there won't be one!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] utopiate:
Source?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
stupid comment. Sammobile just confirmed they have leaked builds of 5.0.1. that prob means we'll have a firmware download link this weekend/next week.

they wouldn't of said they have leaked builds just to -not- release them. its Sammobile, that's what they do- release leaked firmware.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] henklbr:
Have you seen the preview of LP on Note 4 on YouTube from SamMobile?

Listen carefully what they say at the end of the video!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] henklbr:
Have you seen on YouTube the preview of LP on the Note 4, video made by SamMobile?

Look again, and listen what they say at the end of the video!

EDIT: just talked to the founder of SamMobile and the 5.0.1-leak for the Note 4 will NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD!

So: I made NOT A STUPID COMMENT!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
Samsung will release Lollipop for the Note 4 when it's good and ready............ 2016.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
prof?

*it does seem a bit odd though that you just talked to the founder of sammobile and confirmed what you claimed, so i'll be glad to be mistaken if you can prove it*

2- at the youtube preview they were showing 5.0.0, however on the article they published today on their front page they said that they have a leaked 5.0.1 build and that we should get it ''sooner then we think'' bc the 5.0.0 for the S5 official release went without any issues. so why say that ,if it will be released as scheduled in the first place?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] henklbr:
If you don't have anything useful to say...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] henklbr:
Once again:

SamMobile WIL NOT RELEASE LEAKED FIRMWARES to the public anymore!

If you don't believe what I say, that'll be your problem not mine!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ProdByEchelon:
They changed their headline. Quite a few people are heated about that but it was wrong for them to mislead so many Edge and Note 4 users like that
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iridaki:
Sammobile probably worked out a proper deal with Samsung, they give them early firmwares, they show them on video but they're not allowed to distribute them. Nothing else can explain why they changed the strategy. Oh well, we'll get the update when we get the update! Won't be long now.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
again, source?

as well, is it official that sammobile won't be leaking any firmware again? where was it stated?

idk, that's the whole point of sammobile, and thats why they became so popular. if they are another official source of samsung now then they lost their primary purpose
[Galaxy Note 4 General] utopiate:
Martin R. 7 hours ago said:

I need to apologise for the misunderstanding, we have a new writer and I approved his post. Unfortunately we do not leak FW anymore!

Again apologies from my side…

Martin Co-Founder SamMobile

http://www.sammobile.com/2014/12/17...ge-will-be-directly-updated-to-android-5-0-1/
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iridaki:
They said so in the video showing 5.0 on the Note 4.

They showed Lollipop on the S5, S4 and Note 3 and did not leak those firmwares either.

The whole point of Sammobile was distributing Kies firmwares from a variety of regions. They happened to leak some upcoming updates in the past but that was never their main purpose.

I know it must be frustrating for you to wait for such a big update, but you need to come to terms with the fact that Sammobile are no longer willing to leak firmwares prior to release.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
guys just chill out, let it come when its ready. sammobile has insiders from samsung and they are providing us with good information, releasing an internal version of rom will simply get them caught and we wont even have this tit bits of information in future.

Let them finish the work, we should be glad that they are working on 5.0.1 straight away.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] henklbr:
One of the reasons is, that they don't want to distribute unstable firmware to the public.

Several times, when early firmware was distributed and installed by others and something went wrong with installation and the phone had to go back to Samsung for repair, the finger was pointed at SamMobile...

To prevent this, they won't distribute "leaked early builds" anymore...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] henklbr:
See my message: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=57570406&postcount=144

Also see this message: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=57569687&postcount=141

Source: directly from the founder of SamMobile (I know him personally)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iridaki:
Yeah, that I don't buy... ;)

Sammobile doesn't care about my phone or yours and any finger-pointing would leave them indifferent. Why? Because they are an Internet entity and all they want is publicity. And there's no such thing as bad publicity.

Plus, most of the people able to use Odin and flash early leaks and different region firmwares know better than to blame Sammobile for any mishaps. Flashoholics will be flashoholics! They want the latest firmware on their phones and they'll go where they need to in order to get it. And legally, by putting a disclaimer that they are not responsible for what happens if you install the firmware, blah blah blah, they are 100% covered.

And I just don't believe it's a coincidence that they suddenly have the latest firmwares for so many devices, are making videos about them (thus being mentioned in every technology blog and website, i.e. publicity) and at the same time they decided to stop sharing leaks "to protect our phones from unstable firmwares".

There's clearly some sort of deal with Samsung. Which is both good and bad. We get to know what's going on from a trustworthy source but we don't get to actually use the firmwares prior to release.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jeshter2000:
I'm very sorry but you couldn't be more wrong! I'm Martin Co-founder of SamMobile. The one Henk spoke too. What he says is right we have got dozen of emails of people briking their phones and were mad at us. Sorry but we feel responsible for young people who worked their asses of to go buy thier beloved phones. And than bricked it, you can say its their own fault, but we provide. And that is what we do not want anymore!

And it is true if we would leak this pre builds our source could get caught and we have nothing anymore. So that are two main reasons to not leak FW anymore.

Btw: Would you have known it would skip 5.0.0 without us? NO so thats good info right? Without that source you will not have that info.

Now all take a chill pill!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iridaki:
I was just speculating and voicing my thoughts. I'm sorry if it came out wrong, I've always meant for this scenario to be my personal view on the matter. Any change in strategy such as this is open to interpretation. As long as the boundaries between opinion and fact are clear, there's no harm done.

Thank you for clearing things up though, I am glad you took the time to explain an aspect of this decision, because, as you can see, it has created quite a bit of frustration.

I personally don't care about the lack of leaked firmwares because, as I already mentioned. I do welcome the insight to the internal processes that Sammobile offers, while still using a stable firmware on my phone.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Drizzy xS:
No no no no no. You're lying. A Co founder of a company would not make spelling mistakes like that.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iridaki:
So you can't be the co-founder of a company if your English is not perfect?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pikul:
Are you serious? Lol

Sent from my Galaxy NOTE 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Flyer.michael:
Not again...

Good TV shows like Gravity got cancelled because they were to intellectually demanding for the public

SD cards got crippled because ... too complicated for the masses

.

.

There are tons of examples like this...

I'm starting to like the idea of a two class internet instead of net-neutrality

Its time so start segregating the stupid and mostly poor from the rest... starting with the internet it will spread

Products for dumb... products for the intellectual capable

IQ restrictions even for purchase... some stupid rich are out there

This is a 3 am rage post... will delete it when I wake up
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
Thank You for the Detailed Info.. Your works are awesome.. :good:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
915s is exynos version of note edge(which you screenshots on sammobile with 5.0) do you have any idea they enabled 64 bit or not?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fattire:
Why Wait?

Wow this thread is kind of a pit of insanity.

So why not add to the fun and point out again to any late stragglers here that while you're waiting for Samsung, you can try (non-Touchwiz) Android 5 on your Note 4 (TMO) right now. And, even better, you can build it from constantly-improving source code yourself, if you're willing to learn. There are in-progress ports to Sprint, international, etc. so you're invited to help out if you can.

Some benefits include enhanced privacy settings to restrict which apps get access to what privileges. And no spamware and such is nice too. Try at your own risk, as it's still deemed an alpha and missing some features (NFC and DRM-encumbered video being probably the biggest two). But things are changing fast, so be sure to check out the comments to see how people are liking it.

Just wanted to throw that into the mix for those of you with an appetite for adventure, since after all the topic is about 5 on 4!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mediumsteak:
That's a great couch he's got there!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabster21:
Wow, it's like every few days when I come to check on this thread there seems to be yet another post of you shamelessly promoting your ROM..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fattire:
Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] henklbr:
Statement: Why we don’t release early firmware builds anymore

Statement: Why we don’t release early firmware builds anymore

In the last few months, we’ve often seen complaints from our users about the fact that we do not make early firmware builds for devices available for download anymore. It’s a valid complaint, given how enticing the thought of trying out a new version of Android before it has been officially released can be, especially since manufacturers and carriers can take a lot of time to roll out major updates. Today, we’ve decided to let our readers to know the reasons why we don’t release the firmware builds that we review.

The first reason has to do with the fact that flashing firmware manually is not the simplest of tasks. There are many that are fully aware of how to flash firmware, but more than 10 percent of our reader base aren’t. Given we have almost 3.7 million members, that’s a lot of folks (370,000, if you’re being precise) that can take a wrong step somewhere and brick their devices – albeit temporarily – as a result. Going back to official firmware on Samsung devices isn’t the hardest thing to do, but even with fully detailed guides, there is always a chance that something will go wrong during the flashing process.

Then there’s the fact that these early builds are all too often not very stable – there can be bugs that hinder everyday usage, and like it was the case with the initial Lollipop build for the Galaxy S5, some functions might not work at all. Flashing such builds puts a device at risk, and given the amount of cash one can spend on devices (especially flagship devices), it makes us think twice before even entertaining the idea of making these firmware available for download.

The last, and perhaps biggest, reason is our responsibility of protecting our insiders. We are not affiliated with Samsung nor have any sort of deal with them, so we have to depend on our insiders to get hold of unreleased firmware. Getting caught isn’t a very attractive scenario for our sources, and if something does go wrong, it also means that we lose access to these sources, which in turn would make it impossible for us to share all the exclusive things we share, including the previews of upcoming versions of Android for various Samsung devices.

In the end, us not sharing firmware builds has little to do with us looking at increasing page views by teasing our readers with these previews (not that we mind getting as many page views as we can, as that is what allows us to make a living at SamMobile), and more to do with the fact that sharing these builds is associated with numerous risks, both for our readers, our insiders, and for our website.

Hopefully, our readers will understand why we choose not to release any early firmware. You can rest assured that we will keep coming up with previews of new versions of Android for your favorite Samsung devices; 2015 will see us making some big changes to our content, but giving our readers a look at what’s to come will continue to be a huge focus.

Source: SamMobile
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
I've just took Sammobile out of my favorites webs and probably won't look at it again(..probably what a lot of other folks will do as well, and hopefully everyone too). I went to Sammobile for Firmware leaks ever since the S2 days..that was almost 3 years ago! I Always enjoyed the site and the service. However what I don't need is just another website for samsung news- we got plany of those. So if they officially stopped leaking firmware, they lost their purpose as most of their subscribers/viewers weren't there just for the articles.

it's sad but I guess another website will follow.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jeshter2000:
I feel sorry you feel that way, but without us you will not even had a clue they were working on Lollipop or how it would look like. So yeah we are like other websites? You know we have grown and so did our user base which means a lot of potential bricks. Which we do not want. And then the fact for our sources, you rather have the build and our source got screwed and then have nothing at all=. Not even an early look how it will look like?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gpo1956:
tal123, I totally agree.. They're just another Facebook now.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] henklbr:
Well said, Martin!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
Sammobile getting leaked builds means its already in the works and in beta testing. worst case it will be released after a month or even two. bugs free. so yeah..I prefer getting a leaked build two months earlier over watching a 1 min video showing nothing that I haven't seen before, and that build that was shown will be released shortly anyway.

Again, if you are indeed the admin of Sammobile, then you should consider the fact that you got most of your monthly views from other sites/forums directing everyone to your site as it always had the lastest and leaked Firmware to download.

I for one won't be going there again as I just don't need another source for smarthphone news. there's too many of those as it is. and for your question- yes, everyone already knew samsung was working on lollipop, and if you search samsung lollipop on google or someting similar you'll see dozens of tech blogs updaing about everything new on a daily basis.

and lastly- if someone tried to flash roms and bricked their device, it means that a) they didn't read the instructions b) would of went to xda and just download a rom containing that leaked Firmware and c) brick their device anyway because of points a and b.

so not releasing leaked firmware just means that those people will brick their device from another website.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jeshter2000:
Man you are soo wrong! We were the first to show the Lollipop build for every Samsung device... Without us you had not even know how it looked like this early...

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BTW What about our sources, aren't they important. And these build are way more early than you think....
[Galaxy Note 4 General] andalism:
You just ignored the most of the point of that post that you quoted, that is

1) Their source of the leaked firmware will get screwed if they release the firmware to us, and it means that one source of leaked firmware will be gone forever.

2)They were the ones who let us see what how samsung butchered material design touchwiz is like on lollipop, unlike other smartphone websites.

Doesn't mean that they cant try to reduce the chances of people screwing up their phones. It is harmless anyway

Fact is many many people were simply careless enough to flash the wrong firmware on their phones because they were too excited for the latest version only to find themselves getting screwed. Seen it happen to S3 users. You may not agree with Sammobile's decision to safeguard users but I agree with their stand. .
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Andrewtst:
Maybe one day you seen Sammobile charging for leak rom.

Now it got free and charge. Free is crazy slow. Charge one I try test download also slow...

Sammobile never in my bookmark list before. Haha!

Showing video without given leak is like teasing people "Hahaha! You can see it but can't get it".

What to protect prevent people brick the phone or said the rom is far than alpha is just simply nonsense.

If the person decide to flash beta rom and brick own phone is own responsible. No need others to care and try act good person prevent it. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jeshter2000:
Well that's easy for you to say... And real egocentric.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
i'm sorry but it seems like you don't understand how things go in that newspapers/media/sources area. if by protecting a source, you officialy declare that you are no longer leaking any info given by that source so he won't be revealed, then he is *no longer a source* as he's not leaking anymore builds. therefore, there's nothing to protect as he is already gone forever by not releasing anything anyway.

its not like they said; ''okay, we won't be leaking 5.0.0, we don't want the source to be revealed''..what they said is that they are never going to release any leaks again. thats a very big difference
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
guys, just stop the rant and move on!! if you have no patience then get any aosp device , flash lollipop and breath later. Let it come when it is scheduled. Be thankful if some one leaks it earlier or even a video. Without those videos and news from sammobiles we will be sitting in the dark on how lollipop will look like on tw or whether we are getting buggy 5.0 or somewhat fixed 5.0.1.

Respect and peace

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did u ever care to see their posted screenshots? and do you ever know why the kernel build part is hidden?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] frag2:
All this drama over a site not leaking...idgaf about a leak, I want the Samsung legit firmware now!!!

Goddamn Samsung and their taking sweet ass time, its frustrating1!!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] andalism:
You make a point there. Point taken. However you seem to miss out that point 1 is linked to point 2. in this case they don't want the source to be revealed for the greater good of allowing that source to provide them more leak builds to showcase point (2) which differentiates them for other news outlets. You may not agree and just prefer a leaked build but I'm just saying that personally they are different from typical news outlets and provide more in depth exclusive news on samsung mobile.

" i'm sorry but it seems like you don't understand how things go in that newspapers/media/sources area. if by protecting a source, you officialy declare that you are no longer leaking any info given by that source so he won't be revealed, then he is *no longer a source* as he's not leaking anymore builds."

leaking info about how touchwiz is on lollipop for note 4 is "no longer leaking any info"? What gives? For me that is enough. I don't belong in the industry so "I don't understand" and I'm ignorant, but I'm pretty sure newspapers, media and sources work differently. They work on different mediums to disseminate info, and how they practise censorship on their articles and how they protect their sources are quite different from one another. So please don't put that in.