yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Kindle Fire Android Development] AtomicFizzle:
Well, I finally gave it a try. Full wipe and fresh install. Sadly, a quick verdict- daughter disapproved! Won't run My Little Pony or Littlest Pet Shop... It's basically 90% her tablet at this point. In all fairness, they are kind of bigger games that only ran smoothly on SlimKat. Back to the Kat!!! I'll try again later.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] freechelmi:
Yes just installed with the Gapps, and the overall feeking is really slow, opening a web page in the android browser seems worst than my HTC magic :)

Anyway , thank you for this lollipop ROM !
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Regarding Browser Issues

I haven't been testing anything with browsers, but I should have some time today. But I need to get some information:

1) Are there specific web pages giving you problems? Regarding the podcast issue and Chrome, remember that Chrome isn't supporting Flash. Could that be the problem?

2) If you are experiencing general slowness, there are some questions: Did you do a complete wipe, not just Factory reset, before installing? Have you followed all recommended settings including changing the animation settings?

3) Please be sure NOT to restore data when installing this ROM. (I would offer it is never a good idea.) We have had this discussion several times, but Titanium is largely useless these days. There are multiple ways to restore your apps, including letting Google do it for you, and any app data you restore is likely to cause you problems.

With all that said, can you give me some examples of webpages loading slowly and what browser you are using?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
Dang I forgot Chrome didn't support Flash anymore. All the websites say flash needs to be installed. Dose the default browser support flash?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
I don't think so, the only one that I am aware of offering Flash support is Dolphin. And....if you use Dolphin...make sure that you update to the latest version, December 26th or later. Apps are enabling full Lollipop support and you really need to check this. (And that is also why I caution about restoring apps.) See below-

http://www.talkandroid.com/231288-dolphin-browser-gets-flash-android-lollipop-support/

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[MENTION=4968340]pfederighi[/MENTION] I noted this in another post, but Dolphin just had a major update last week (http://www.talkandroid.com/231288-dolphin-browser-gets-flash-android-lollipop-support/) so be sure that you are using the latest version.

Otherwise, please let me know how I could duplicate the issue and I'll try to help.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] :
Browser advice:

Stock is good.

Chrome is crap

Dolphin is good

C(cheetah)M(mobile) is amazing

Next is ok
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
Dolphin browser doesn't work either. Funny thing is I can view the pod casts and videos just fine using chrome on my M8 but not my kindle. Eh, it's no big deal...
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
In that case, we may need to wait for the next build. It could be a DRM issue. When we get that rocking, I'll ask you for a link for testing.

One thing, did you install the Dolphin Jetpack? http://dolphin.com/lab/en
[Kindle Fire Android Development] cgrucelski:
I would actually agree with the assessment regarding web browser performance. In my experience, the stock browser is often painfully slow. I've also tried Chrome, Firefox and Dolphin, and I can't say that any of them are speed demons either. I usually end up just using the stock browser anyway.

For the record, I flashed a clean ROM a couple of releases ago, after doing all of the recommended wipes. I did not restore any data or apps from Google. Unfortunately, I can't remember which release it was off the top of my head. But, the last few (including V0.23 that I'm currently running), have all been flashed OTA with Sion. That little app rocks!

My experience using the Kindle as a 'daily driver' is exactly what I expect, considering that we're running the newest version of Android on a device that was released over three years ago and over 10 API version releases ago. There are just times when I am simply amazed at how responsive and flawless everything works, and there are other times when I just want to throw it across the room. :)

But, I'm definitely not complaining. I mean, the whole reason I bought my Kindle ($70 refurbished) in the first place was because I knew the XDA community was modding the crap out of it. Heck, if I wanted completely flawless performance, I'd go buy the latest, greatest new device... but even then I probably wouldn't quite get it. Besides, what fun would that be? There's a certain smug satisfaction telling people I'm running Lolipop on my 1st gen Kindle. :)

For me, there are some apps that always seem to work great and others that are just dogs. Ironically, I find that the Amazon Kindle app takes forever to open and is one of the most sluggish. Most of the apps I use regularly work fairly decent. I don't have trouble with remote desktop (Microsoft RD Client), streaming music (Amazon Music, Play Music), streaming video (HBOGo, Plex, HDHomeRun View, XfinityTVGo, WatchESPN) and checking Email (GMail, Nine).

Every once in awhile, it just seems to get bogged down, so I'll try clearing all of the running apps, or rebooting if necessary. In general, I find the annoyances tolerable, and for me, I'd rather be running the latest version with a few hiccups than an older version without. :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
[MENTION=4410674]lovejoy777[/MENTION] is working on tweaking performance, as is Hashcode and the SlimROMs team. Your observations align with our idea of limiting the number of recent apps. It is a question of convenience versus performance.

Thanks for your detail, very helpful.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] phathienmenh:
after install new rom slimlp . all ok . but i cant install game angry birds on play store ( error 492 ) . i reinstall many time but got error same ( 492 )

what happen on my KF ??

help
[Kindle Fire Android Development] cgrucelski:
You bet. A few weeks ago, when I originally voted in the poll, I answered (5) for the number of recent apps. But, if I could re-vote now, I would definitely say (3)...
[Kindle Fire Android Development] pfederighi:
I currently have Dolphin 11.3.6 installed. It's the latest available from GooglePlay. I first noticed issues when trying to read XDA Forums. As an example, I was able to navigate to this thread and if I was lucky I could navigate beyond the OP. If not lucky, I would be stuck there. No links would work. They would not highlight nor do anything.

In my experience XDA Forum is not a particularly stable or easily renderable website. At first I thought maybe something was up with the site so I tried some other browsers. OperaMini and some other mini browser didn't work at all with it. I tried UC Browser and it works great if the user agent is set to Desktop (and it's noticeably faster than Dolphin). I also switched Dolphin's user agent to Desktop and Dolphin worked a little better that way, but would still end up getting stuck on a page where nothing would work.

I hope this info is useful. Cheers.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
ok guys. thanks so much for all the feedback :) iv'e been working none stop on my Sion app for the past few weeks, now its up on google play and seems pretty stable i can return my attension back to the rom a little bit more :). just a quick note: if using sion for ota's it is the same as dirty flashing a rom. slim as always been quite a stable rom for doing dirty flashes, but it works best when only coming from the previous slim build version, sometimes if you miss a couple of releases then there simply is to many changes to the source code for this to work perfectly. if you find that its considerably sluggish etc then i would still recommend a full clean wipe and install. ive been looking at the code to make the changes to the amount of apps in the backgrounf (for the poll) but due to how android handles the back stack of apps im not sure it would be a good idea. although im still looking into it. im also going to try to get smartass governor incorporated again as this seemed pretty good on our slimkat builds.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
a little more info please. what version of slimpop? what previous version did you come from? what install method? what gapps did you use?.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Here is an article and how to fix Play Error 492: http://www.fixerrs.com/2014/09/Fix-Google-Play-store-Error-492.html#.VKvNGtXF_0w

Most likely all you will need to do is the first step.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
No, I did not install the jet pack. Just installed the dolphin app and the flash.apk when asked. I'll try it again later when I get some time.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] pfederighi:
Strange things are afoot at the Circle K

I rarely ever need to change anything on /system. In the past I have opened Terminal and entered 'mount -w -o remount /system'. I then changed what I wanted and entered 'mount -r -o remount /system'. I then went on my merry way or rebooted if that was needed for whatever I was doing.

So... I tried this again. Some stuff I observed:

* In Terminal, after typing 'su', /sdcard goes away. More specifically, /storage/emulated/0 and /storage/emulated/legacy disappear. They didn't actually disappear as everything else kept running, but they didn't exist as far as the shell was concerned.

* Doing a 'mount -o remount -w /system' changed the the status to rw, but everything seemed to think it was still ro. I tried again with the arguments reveresed ('mount -w -o remount /system') just in case that makes a difference. Again, no error messages. This time apps seemed to think /system was rw. Nothing would actually save to it, though. No errors from QuickEdit when saving, but nothing got saved.

* I backed up to original /system/build.prop /system/build.prop.orig. I could see this in Terminal, but not in anything else.

* Fed up with this venture, I rebooted to TWRP and copied my modified build.prop to /system. All I changed was the manufacturer and model (in order to make PlayStore happy). I rebooted and now my KF is stuck at the bootloader logo.

Is this Google's new security for Lollipop? That is, don't mess with anything or Big Brother will trash your system?

Anyway, I hope this info is useful. Cheers.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
We have had some discussions around how partitions are recognized and handled. This data is really valuable and thank you.

My feeling is that it is more how we were able to achieve the current partitioning and less security measures by Google. I think that you hit a random glitch. But maybe not.

You may need to do the "re-partition, start all over" thing. [MENTION=4267571]sd_shadow[/MENTION] has some excellent tutorials if you need help or a reminder.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Wikdclown:
Google keep and (my fav) Habit Browser will not install through play store says device not compatible but i can manually install both.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Ixthusdan:
A note on governors and such, my battery life is currently the best I have had since ICS. I would hesitate to change at the moment for that reason.

You all should try Mercury browser.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
I am not going to start hacking away at Lollipop just yet, we'll have several more Alpha/Beta builds to come, I am sure. But we have a pretty comprehensive list at the other thread.

At this point, I'd like to be sure that any problems that I find are due to the ROM, not something that I removed.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
Fair enough.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
youtube app wont load video. browser youtube plays video but we only get audio (if that makes any sense)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
[MENTION=5279145]lllukas[/MENTION] you home yet?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] thedarksavant:
Not sure if it's related to the YouTube's issue, but I get "Playback not supported on this device" in Play Movies.

12-01 15:28:31.612 E/PlayMovies(2032): android.media.UnsupportedSchemeException: Failed to instantiate drm object.

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Netflix also fails to load a video.

12-01 15:37:52.827 W/PackageManager(999): Failure retrieving resources for com.netflix.mediaclient: Resource ID #0x0

I saw a similar error about resource ID #0x0 in the YouTube logs.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] asjimene:
Any way to add sound options to the quick settings bar? I'm still new to lollipop... Other than that and the videos not working, it is still running very well!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashbang173:
I know there's a good app for that...

Try this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.njsoftware.volumechanger
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
very helpful. now i know where to look. :) thank you
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
that will all be added. the slim team have started adding features. /settings/interface is there now they will keep adding. but it will take some time. i will build as soon as i see anything merged to keep us upto date. im adding smartass as i type :) and looking into video error. need accurate feedback guys even if it hurts ;)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
The ROM itself is running pretty stable for first release, everything I've tested is working just fine. Can't wait to see what's backed in on later releases.

[MENTION=4410674]lovejoy777[/MENTION] [MENTION=3816775]koop1955[/MENTION], I let the battery run down to 4% and powered off to recharge. The battery charging icon and power light came on for about 10 seconds then shut off. Pressing the power button didn't do anything with the charger plugged in. I was able to restart the device after unplugging the charger then plugged it in and it's charging just fine now. Is there a problem with power off charging that you know of?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
i think hash found a bug in bootloader, which handles that. maybe he can confirm for us. [MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION]
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
I don't turn mine off to charge, but I haven't noticed anything of the kind. Good to keep an eye on, though. Thanks for the report.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
Reached my eight likes for the day. Anything else you'd like me to test? I'm off work until 12/13/14..
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
will you have some spare time. I have one cooking?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
I have 12 days my friend but yes, I have some time tonight. Just watching Monday Night Football. Just need to charge up my device before I do any flashing.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
Still no video in new build but it does have smartassV2 set as default. Use trickster to check and koop and I are overclocking. koop will release after he's done the initial test. Night guys.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] gnexdude:
I'm about to flash the first release. I'll report back, thanks again lovejoy, koop, and sabres: You guys kick ass day in and day out!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
New Build

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95832962473395962

Change Log: Modified to support SmartAss as default govenor. You'll need to install Trickster Mod. Also remember to set animations to .25.

This is NOT fully tested. I think that both [MENTION=4410674]lovejoy777[/MENTION] and I reached our limits. You can try dirty flashing, but I installed clean as I have been testing.

Please post results.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lllukas:
Yes . but i had trouble during flashing.

Unable to open zip file in revovery :(

I went to sleep then. Now im wake up, and taking my mother in law on bus ;)

When im back, im pushing fresh download file in adb, because i wiped everything, and i dont have any previus build;)

I try build posted by Koop above. ;)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
I did a clean flash of the first beta release. If all that has changed is the addition of smartassV2 gov, I'll try a dirty flash and test. I'll report back in a bit.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
the reason for battery life being so good is Hashcode found a bug that has been zapping our battery since the start. now he fixed it the battery should always be better.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] d3vilskid:
Wonder if all the lag issue everyone is facing is from the memory leak in lollipop. Because the same happens on my sensation. Should be fix in goggles next release.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
It could be. I also think that a lot of application developers are behind in updating their apps for Lollipop. And at this point, Lollipop doesn't own the market, KitKat still does. So if you are writing an app for the majority of your users...

Interesting article recently called Gingerbread (2.3) the "OS that just won't die."

Not everyone is as update-conscious as we are.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
I just got 48+ hours on battery with over six hours of screen on time and some ungodly time active. And my battery was still at 9%. Will done, [MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION].
[Kindle Fire Android Development] pfederighi:
More superuser weirdness

So, I reinstalled the latest Lollipop and latest Slim mini gapps (different from the previous gapps I had installed). I installed ES File Explorer and toggled the Root Explorer option. Upon doing this, /sdcard disappeared from the directory listing and /tombstones appeared. Turning the option off reverses that. In case it matters, I repartitioned to OtterX again and formatted all the partions. I wish I knew how to help solve this. If you can think of something, let me know.

Cheers.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] :
Gingerbread is like windows xp.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] GIL0802:
Thanks man!

I'm running on the latest Slim-otterx-5.0.2.alpha.0.91-V0.23 and i have the problem that i don't know where to take a screenshot because we don't have volume buttons so, How do i screenshot ? Do you use an App or something ?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lllukas:
Your thinking is good. Slim team didn't include this feature yet. For now, You should download application for screenshots from play store.

Regards my friend
[Kindle Fire Android Development] GIL0802:
And the app name is ? I don't know any app, whatever it shows first on search ?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Pretty much. Here is what I do:

1) Go to Play and search for screenshots:

https://play.google.com/store/search?q=screenshot

2) Read the reviews. That will help you sort the garbage out.

3) Don't be afraid if the app is free. If you don't like it, uninstall and try another.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lllukas:
Hello

Yesterday, i received my USB-OTG dongle, and i have some feedback for You

My wireless USB keyboard with touchpad Working good, but partially ( im writing this post by physical keyboard:), partially because touchpad doesn't work. ( its working with my old lolipoped Samsung SGS2 :))

About USB-OTG storage. Unfortunately its doesn't work, Kindle don't recognize any USB stick, pendrive, i tried with few applications from play store. USB OTG helper, troubleshooter.

i know, its a kernel related, and our dear [MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION] its very busy man :) maybe in near future we get a fully working OTG.

No offense my dear friends.

Regards
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
Strange you should mention this koop and I were playing with the kernel last night ? I looked at some documentation from ti about otg, but its known that our 4430 chip doesn't play nice with otg (although hashcode is a genius). We are currently working on smartass which we are both running different builds of trying to hone the settings. ?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
I'm not sure what more you can do other than adding smartassv2 back into the ROM and maybe diagnosing no flash video. The platform is very stable, battery life is phenominal and there is just enough goodies to make everyone happy.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] cgrucelski:
For what it's worth, I wiped my tablet last night and started over again, following the steps in the OP and using the latest version of the ROM and Gapps. In a recent post, I commented that I had not restored my Google account settings, but as I thought about it, I couldn't remember setting it up as a new device recently.

In a recent post, Koop highly recommended not to restore data when installing the ROM. Since I couldn't remember with certainty exactly what, if anything, I had restored, I figured I would start over again and make sure. After wiping, installing and setting it up as a new device, I re-installed all of my usual apps (30 at last count). I also used Sion to install the '03defaultmaxcpu1200000.zip' script to overclock it.

It's been a busy day today at work, so I haven't had a chance to really stress test it yet like usual, but from little I've used it today, I can honestly say that I am surprised how much snappier and responsive it is. I don't know if this is because of the fact that it's just a 'brand new' install, or if it's a result of the 'new device' install, but dang! It's been off the charger for nearly 10 hours and the battery is still at 94%. I am not experiencing the sluggishness that I was seeing previously.

I would maybe suggest modifying the OP and adding the recommendation to set up the device as a new device, rather than restoring the account from Google. I know it can be a pain to set up all apps, Wi-Fi connections, and other settings, but for me, it seems like it was worth it.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] samsat:
From what I have been reading here the performance of both KK and POP on my Kindle has not been that good when compared to other users here.

Would it be worth redoing the Otterx partition process in case something did not go right there or is this partitioning something that either works or doesn't?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Duddha:
Have you installed init.d script 03defaultmaxcpu1200000.zip? After installing it works better
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
maybe a clean install is needed. wipes to include are: factory reset, system & both caches. the latest builds have 1200000 set as default. (don't use the ota when doing clean installs). i experience no lag on the latest builds (not sure if that's because I'm always doing fresh installs though).
[Kindle Fire Android Development] bflobills:
Steve, did you see this?

http://m.space.com/28196-comet-lovejoy-visible-eridanus-constellation.html
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
my brother sent me that link yesterday. :) they obviously named it after me. :D lol
[Kindle Fire Android Development] cgrucelski:
One things that I noticed after my recent reinstall is that some of the apps and widgets that I usually install have processes and services that automatically start and run in the background. When I opened up my 'Settings\Apps' and looked at the running apps, I was a little surprised at what was taking up resources. I decided to uninstall a couple that seemed to be hogging memory and it seems to have helped. In my case, some of the key culprits were: Google Maps, Play Music (the worst offender), and the Dashclock widget (configured with extensions for Weather, Calendar, GMail, Nine and Hangouts).