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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
Zerolemon Case Mod , Power/Volume Mod..... lol: http://youtu.be/cJacbNAUTmI
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Guys no matter how you charge it nothing will change. It all dependa on how you use ur phone. I have wifi, gps, bluetooth, sync all on all the time and play a ton of games and i get 9 hrs of screen time. But i using my phone non stop. I got a few different emails from zerolemon with charging directions and nothing changed. Used a external Samsung charger

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Also when u trim ase be very very careful. Took a tiny bit to much off and now had to press really hard. Had to build it up with some electrical tape on the case.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] wub02:
Here is what I did to fix the buttons, instead cut of part of the push button, I add pad around the phone's button cut some soft silicon sheet (1/32" thick) left over form work, so now will have to use about 60g of force instead of ~10g.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Can you show a pic of it on phone or case or how ever u did it
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] wub02:
Here you go, pad is higher then the button so it prevent case push into it unless you press it harder, originally I use rubber pad but was too hard so I change it to soft silicon, you can experiment with different material may get better result.

Sorry for bad quality pictures, taken by my old S4 at low light.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
That is perfect. I was thinking you had it on the rubber side not actually on the phone. Might i ask what you used as silicone pad?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] wub02:
I believe this is what I used (my co-worker used this for gasket).

http://www.mcmaster.com/#9010k81/=wcaspq

Not sure what the hardness is (10A, 20A).
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Thank u i will be on mission tomorrow to find it lol
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Marty_Since87:
the button on that case are really that sensitive? wow.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
Yes it is. The weight of the phone can force a button press. When I'm talking on it, unless I hold the phone along the bottom, I inadvertently hang up on someone.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Marty_Since87:
That's unfortunate, I'm pretty sure that ZL know if this problem I wonder why they never decided to fix it. Probably cost too much for them to issue everyone and brand new silicon casework redesigned buttons.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mag2007:
Zerolemon in Germany

Hello guys,

someone here got zerelemon in germany? If yes, where can i get one? Amazon and ebay does not offer it here.

Thanks.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
I can't believe how different each charge is. The battery is so inconsistent...
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
I love my Zerolemon said no one ever.. Lmao
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
How long does yours last on one charge?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
It changes every charge lol
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
I am a true heavy user. This was texting all day and taking about 100 high end pics and phone for about 2 hrs and emails all day. God and bluetooth always on so is wifi
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Android.Ninja:
Just out of curiosity, what do you usually set your brightness at? 50%, 75%, 100%, Auto, or do you vary it?

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Auto but outside a lot so it goes to full brightness
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] dasers13:
Has anyone tried wiping battery stats if your are rooted to see if this gives a more accurate reading?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] unibomber:
It doesn't help.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
Not yet but I will be as soon as we have root, which we currently don't. Maybe in a couple weeks time we will. From what I understand, they have a package now that they're testing. Doesn't mean it'll actually work and it doesn't mean they won't have to go back to the drawing board. Development is happening on the AT&T side of the Note 4 forums, but the exploit will work with Verizon, as well...from what I'd heard.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Been done and tested. Major fail. It just one of those things that sucks but it is what it is.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] GeneralBobo:
Hey,

I just saw the pictures of this... My first thought was: This must be a prank? :D It's HUGE?

Bobo
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
Look on YouTube. You'll see reviews.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] electech13:
Wow.. I've used extended batteries before (that come with custom backplate and case sometimes) and got used to it on my S3 in the past.. Had a 4500mah and a 7000mah.. But this one? Whoa! Almost 21mm thick afterwards! That's a tank.. Maybe as a spare for certain trips or when want to "ruggedize" my phone with a bonus of crazy long battery

Currently still using my Note 4 as my daily but may switch back to my Nexus 6 now that LP 5.1 has been pushed out.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
So I ended up using one of those silicone bands you get at any gas station. Works great. Def I early 1000 times better.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
bad ass note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
Any way for you to take a picture of it inside your phone? Do you have another camera to do so or can you have someone take a pic for you?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Looks just like what wub posted. I got the idea from his pic.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] LOCKDOWN359:
I just got mine from Amazon! Yes its a brick but i love it so far doing the charging as directed. I have no issues with the buttons like others have posted. I would like to get the orange and black model when it comes out. I will post screen shots after charge cycles.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
I have not upgraded to Lollipop yet (waiting for root...I'll give it two weeks), as I hear it's available to us Verizon users as of Friday. Has anyone upgraded yet, and seen any difference with the ZeroLemon battery? Does it make it any better or worse?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] asutodd:
Its a great battery with great life... only drawback.... if you bump the phone just right, it resets.... pain in the butt. I emailed zerolemon and got no reply.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mrcoolgli:
I have had mine for a week. I conside myself a heavy user.

Settings: Auto Brightness/GPS/WIFI/30 second screen off.

Notes:

My cell service is weak in my home so it tends to kill the battery quicker than when I am out and about.

Factory Battery: 10-12 hours

Zero Lemon: 24-30 hours easy.

Opinons:

My screen protector is not the type to stick on it's one of the removable ones. It does not want to say on the screen around the flexing on the sides. No issues with the battery vibrating as previous posters have indicated. Even on my motorcycle. Case fits nicely and the buttons work well. I like the way the framed around the camera it protects it from getting finger prints all over it. I don't like the tab you have to open to use the headphone and charging port. They are fine if your looking for more protection from moisture but I don't really see what good they are since the top is not sealed.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] divineazn716:
hey guys I see people bashing on this battery for their own reasons. maybe you just got a crappy battery out of the bunch. I've had this for a week now and im rooted running the vision-x rom. I first charged the battery all the way to 100% and used the battery calibration rooted app and let it do its thing. This battery is awesome! Im running FULL BRIGHTNESS getting 2 full days with it. also bluetooth is on always and my wifi is on always as well. I play CLASH OF CLANS 24/7 too and if you play it, you know its a battery drain and im still getting 2 full days with it. last night i noticed it going down to 1% and staying there for a good 1.5 hours. I didnt let it turn off on its own but i plugged it in to charge it since i didnt want to wait for it to turn off on its own. there is no reason to have it all the way to 1%. before you go to bed, you charge your phone. my phone charges in 6 hours fully with the fast charging off.

Also about this bulky size. its whatever to me, im 5'8 but i dont wear SKINNY JEANS... i carry it in my front pocket and it doesnt bother me at all. yea its a lot bigger than what it was before but for heavy users and for people who dont get the chance to let it charge, i definitely recommend it.

I did see a comment about if you hit it in the right spot it will reboot, i had that happen to me but it happens. this is still the best you can get. I never got that screen protector but dont need it. I can get a better one off amazon that is top quality instead of some free junky one. you guys feel me?!

but yea i recommend this battery for any heavy user. I was skeptical after reading everyone else's comments but i see a lot of positive and negative responses. you never know until you try it yourself.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
The reason we bash it is cause it hard to know what level your at unless you do a battery pull.. It annoying. As far as any times you get with it as they have always said on xda unless you got screen shots it didn't happen.. Most of us are getting 12hrs screen on time. And last about 1 day 18 hrs.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mrcoolgli:
BACARDILIMON,

You're right, attaching my screen shot. At this rate my last 22 percent would easily get me another 10 hours.

[IMG="Battery Usage"]http://www.shortyandthegeek.com/gallery/cache/MISC/Screenshot_2015-04-08-00-57-45_595.png[/IMG]
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
I have had 1% last me 11 hours lol. It just sad the cells was not made better.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Ammarious:
This is the most annoying part in this battery.. the percentage of the battery is not an indicator of the actual juice left in the battery. . you have to deal with a phone with no usage of a stock camera and no brightness bar for 11 hours at 1%.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Not true. For screen use root dimmer I think it is called and force screen brightness to stay how you want it. For camera have the Dev of rom you are using to disable the disable in the rom and mod the camera. It works for me you just gotta ask very nice and maybe shoot them a donation as a way of saying thanks.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Ammarious:
Hello BACARDILIMON,

In your reply, you suggested workarounds to solve the problem but that does not make what I wrote "not true".

I have been using zerolemon since having my note 2 until now and that was not the case on the note 2 and note 3. I appreciate the provided solutions but those cannot work for people who want to keep using their un-rooted stock phones.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Yeah true but most people on here are rooted and can do what needs doing. Those folks that wanna stay stock don't normally come here or know about xda

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Ammarious:
I agree. Is there any of the roms or apps that managed to solve the problem of the battery percentage issue with the zerolemon.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
None. It is a battery hardware issue so will never be a fix.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Ammarious:
Ok. thanks. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
Not really a question or review about the battery, itself, but yesterday, I'd heard about "Google Cardboard". If you're unfamiliar with it, it's like a VR sort of thing for your phone where you put your phone inside of a cardboard box and kind of turn it into a "ViewMaster" (which is basically from the 80s, if I'm not mistaken), well, kind of. Instead, it's not just single pictures, but moreso a VR tour.

I'm looking for a Google Cardboard that would fit the ZeroLemon battery case. Any thoughts on where to get one? I may create a separate topic in the Q/A section that may benefit anyone with a non-stock battery.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] elevul:
Hello.

Does the case have a cable loop or anything to attach a cable to it, whose other end can be attached to something like this?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Hell no. This phone is heavy and will break that toy. You need something with a steel cable to hold this but even if you do find something when it falls it will bring your pants down.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Android.Ninja:
Lol,

Along with the person whose standing beside you as well... Lol

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Well unfortunately I've still not been able to create a modified file that will give accurate 1% Stats. After removing all if the wrapping on the battery and analyzing how its made. I've discovered it's a lost cause. Single cell = no problem

Multi cell = no problem

Multi cell with parallel wiring = not gonna happen

But I did give it one hell of a go....

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
I did same and the glue they used was poop. Horrible. I still using but as a back up the Hyperion did trick for me

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] elevul:
It's a kevlar cable, and either way my belt was easily able to hold my N7000 with extended battery by a normal nylon cable even when it fell from my hands, so there should be no issues with a kevlar one for the GN4.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mrcoolgli:
At the UPS store I weighed my phone with the Zero Lemon battery, it was .87 pounds or 13.9 ounces. I would say that device might be a bit overloaded.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] googlemyahoo:
So you guys think the Hyperion is any better? This battery is a piece of ****. Congrats to the 3 people who apparently got one that works. This is about 45 minutes after being unplugged after charging to "full" for 7-8 hours. Total crap, and this is my replacement.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mrcoolgli:
googemyahoo, I've owned zerolemon batteries on my Note II / S3 / S4 /S5 and now the NOTE 4 and all of them have always been very good. I believe that there are "lemons" out there no pun intended however that's just too good of a track record to ignore. One thing that's curios about your screen shot.. again not saying you did anything to make it this way, but it's so linear. I never seen a graph that's so exactly perfect.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Anyone can show that. How bout showing some real screenshots and let's see if it is a battery issue or operator malfunction. If u read the thread from start u would need better battery stats and let's see what really killed ur battery. Maybe the gps maybe the music. Way to many unknowns with ur screenshot.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] googlemyahoo:
I have nothing against zero lemon. As I've said in previous posts, I had the extended battery with the note 2 and got nearly 3 days of use from almost every charge...I loved it, and honestly between the troubles I've had with this battery and the lack of usable ram without rooting, I wish I had stayed with the note 2. I have no clue of how to modify a graph like the one I posted...That's a direct screenshot from the phone.

How bout telling me how to do it without coming off as a smart ass?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
That is why the first rule of xda is read the thread. U will see what we all went thru. U will see all the screenshots we have done. Or just buy something else but in battery section screen should be the biggest juice hog if it is not then u got crappy rom or bad app sucking you dry

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] googlemyahoo:
I'm definitely not going through 54 pages. Music is by far the biggest drain. It takes forever for screen to take over when I haven't listened to music in a while.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] googlemyahoo:
Well I read 10-15 pages through the middle of the thread just enough to see that you pretty much had the same experience, so I don't understand why I received any resistance whatsoever, but oh well. I doubt ZL will even do a partial refund now, but I may call them tomorrow to see. Looks like I'll have a 10000mAh brick soon.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] googlemyahoo:
Here's some screenshots. The caller ID app shouldn't be running in my opinion...I haven't received a phone call the entire day.

Phone was at "100%" this morning at 6am.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Android.Ninja:
There's zero tolerance for your language in your post.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] googlemyahoo:
I'd apologize, but I wouldn't mean it. Thanks for your help!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] LOCKDOWN359:
Charging cycle complete

I charged mine for a full 12 hours before even turning the phone on. I also let the phone discharge until it shutdown on its own and repeated this 3 times. I also installed a screen protector I got off Amazon think it was $9.00 on there. The screen protector also has black edges on it and fits under the Zerolemon face plate. I installed the protector and the zerolemon case then i placed it face down on my desk with about one pound on it and there is no haloing effect on my screen looks great.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Just think how much longer ur battery would last without bloat lol

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOB Dave:
Off Topic: Where can I find that weather widget, the 5 day weather with the flip clock?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Playstore hd widgets

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] LOCKDOWN359:
Thats where i got it from.

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Are you rooted with custom rom and have one?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Yes rooted stock deodex rom and yes have one

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] googlemyahoo:
So your battery gauge reads correctly?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] LOCKDOWN359:
okay thanks
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Nobody's battery gauge reads correctly

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] googlemyahoo:
I was just wondering since he's getting decent life out of the battery
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
It depends on use. Like does he play any games or watch you tube videos. I didn't see any of that in his screen shots. Some are heavy users and some just use phone normal. Best I ever had was 16 hrs screen on time

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] googlemyahoo:
Did the screen shots I posted help any? They're at the top of the last page I think.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Somewhat. What caller id is that? The music app did you use it for the time it shows for. I would also get a free app called cpu spy and let it run and when you get low take a look at the info and see if your phone even went into deep sleep.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] googlemyahoo:
The caller ID is whatever the app is that came on the phone... Looks like it was a 30 day trial but guess it's still on the phone. Yeah I listen to a good bit of music, but I've never seen playing music from the SD card drain a phone with such a large battery as quickly as it does this. It uses less battery listening to Pandora all day.

I'll DL the app.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
I would then see if u need that app if not remove it or freeze it. Then let's see after a day or so what cpu spy says

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] blane3298:
any chance a otterbox defender could be modded to fit this battery?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
No way. Not even close.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
I'm considering getting rid of my Zerolemon in exchange for a Hyperion battery due to calibration issues that have been widely reported. Before I do, those with rooted DE phones, does having root read the battery more accurately?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Android.Ninja:
LOL ?

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LoL, I'd love to have that fit mine as well if it was available! Unfortunately it's not, but if it was, that would be a REAL feature. ?

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
No difference

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Don164:
What constitutes as draining the battery ?! I know this is the Note 4 thread but I would surmise it's a similar issue here as well so hear me out.

When I first obtained my ZL case, I drained it from 1% to dead in 2 hours and I was impressed if anything despite the annoyance of waiting for it to die. But after charging, it drains somewhat quickly than I thought.

I remember during the initial discharge cycles, the battery depeleted but I switched it on and then it went going for 30 minutes before dying again. After switching it on yet again, it died 10 seconds in and then I put it on charge. Is that a full discharge or is it when it first switches off ?!

I haven't performed a full discharge since the first 5 cycles and I charge when it reaches 1 or 2 %. What should I do as although it last me 3 or 4 days, its with fairly minimal use and I notice a fairly fast drain for a battery of this size
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] elevul:
Did you disable "fast charge" in the settings?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Don164:
My apologies not mention this but I have the ZL but for the Note 3. I only mention it because the batteries aren't to dissimilar plus this thread is more active.

My battery just died although, I removed it, popped it back in and it still has 2% in the tank. Do I drain this or just charge it ?! My logic would be to drain it and charge from empty to full ?! Am I wrong ?!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Battery is night and day difference from what I undetstand

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Correction depends on the battery for some reason tricell came after the lithium ion did. So depends

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
Can you explain what you mean by "night and day" ? Are you saying the ZL for the Note 3 functioned much better than the ZL for the Note 4?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Don164:
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the note 3 variant also tricell
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
I have no idea, I didn't have the Note 3. I'm asking if the Note 3 ZL battery percentage was accurate in comparison to the Note 4 ZL battery percentage, or did they both have calibration issues?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] elevul:
The Note 3 ZL battery worked WAY better than the Note 4 one, which has huge issues with both calibration and simple duration. It seems QC on ZL became a lot worse in the last year.

Makes you wonder how are they gonna do with the Note5, if they ever bother making a battery for it...
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Note 3 had 2 versions look on the webpage. Had a tricell which never read correct just like note 4 and a regular battery cell which was a single cell version.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JOSHSKORN:
I'm getting a replacement for mone. We'll see how this goes. ZL won't refund a purchase over 30 days.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] BACARDILIMON:
Good luck man. I have been thru 4 and different results every time. The one they sent me for free seems to be ok but ya never know when it will die lol

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] onyx_riddle:
They may not get a chance to make an extended battery for the note 5.

If Samsung seals the note... then they will lose this very loyal customer (note 1 2 3 and 4 user)