yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Hope that the Beta resolves it for you.

See if you can back up your current router firmware. If you can, try DD-WRT or Tomato or another custom firmware. Or even a previous version of the stock build.

Looking here: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/lollipop.html Lollipop has a bunch of new networking features. Maybe the multi-networking is causing an issue? It shouldn't but....
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Wikdclown:
Anyone got a working gapps link the one on front page is dead.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] mlkjuggalo:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95897840722643667
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
http://xdaforums.com/paranoid-android/general/gapps-official-to-date-pa-google-apps-t2943900

Working for me.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] mlkjuggalo:
New pa_gapps-modular-micro-5.0.1-RC2-20150125a by TKruzze https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=21354 :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
don't worry i haven't gone anywhere, just been working on somethings :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
Like getting better from the flu???
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
I have some issues with my slimpop source. ive spent days trying to sort it. finally took the plunge yesterday and completely wiped my pc, reinstalled ubuntu and all the build environment including dling full slimlp source code. set a new build going late last night only to wake up to errors again. somethings seriously screwed. im trying to figure out whats wrong still.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Ixthusdan:
You made several changes. Perhaps a written log of adjustments is in order. I know we are working with an old device with different partition layouts. Plenty to remember in that.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
Now that doesn't sound like fun.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] slappydj1:
Hey, I've been using this ROM since it was released as well as slimkat. Great job on the ROM guys, I mostly just lurk on xda, but this is likely my favorite ROM for the kindle I've used. Its rather astounding to me that a 3 year old device (that even on release didn't have the greatest specs) can run so fast and fluidly. :)

I just have a quick question, since there have been updates to gapps, could I update those using Sion without updating the ROM with an OTA? And also would there be any point to that since the gapps can be updated using the play store?

I'm only asking since there have been bug fixes in the latest PA gapps.

Thanks again for the great ROM, Sion, and everything you guys do for the android community. :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Yes. Tested this morning with the latest PA GAPPs and worked fine. Let me just add that I stayed within the same version ...as in NANO to NANO or in my case PICO to PICO, but worked fine.

Thank you for asking, that was great question.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] mclad:
Talking of gapps, because I use STOCK on my phone, I've been using STOCK gapps for my slimpopped kindle, but an *include* install just for what I want, like so

// comments not actually in my gapp-config.txt file, just for info here

// prevent automatic installs if gapps thinks I'm leaving myself without something critical
Override
//first ensure removal of "certain Stock/AOSP" applications
Browser
CalendarStock
CameraStock
CMFileManager
CMWallpapers
Eleven
Email
ExchangeStock
Gallery
KeyboardStock
Launcher
MMS
PicoTTS
Studio
// list include install apps
Include
Books
Chrome
Docs
Drive
GoogleNow
GooglePlus
Hangouts
Keep
KeyboardGoogle
Music
Playgames
Sheets

Anything inherently wrong with this approach, compared to a, say NANO install and then selectively including wanted gapps?

Thanks :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] mlkjuggalo:
New Gapps are out by TKruzze version pa_gapps-modular-micro-5.0.1-RC3-20150201 link https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=21354 :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] chykal:
Just checking in to say the the ROM is running great. Battery life had been good too. I hope everything is going OK Steve.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Short answer in nothing wrong, in fact very right! This is the same approach that [MENTION=4410674]lovejoy777[/MENTION] and I had in mind.

You have this custom-tailored for your use and it is what you should stick with.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
All good as of tonight. Got it building again at last :) being tested as i type.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] mclad:
Oops
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
Ok just ironing out a few things. Nearly ready :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
Ive gone back to stock slim (no custom ui etc) getting ready for all the new stuff.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] mlkjuggalo:
Can't wait to see your next release :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] xconwayx:
Looks like the Gapps link is broke!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sd_shadow:
pa_gapps-modular-micro-5.0.1-RC3-20150201-signed.zip

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really should just go to [GAPPS][5.0.x][BETA] OFFICIAL Up-to-Date PA-GOOGLE APPS (All ROM's) [2015-02-01]

and click on MICRO MODULAR PACKAGE or smaller
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
New rom coming tonight. With a surprise included.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Having tested a recent (couple of hours old) build, I can say that the community will be pleasantly surprised!

My exact words to [MENTION=4410674]lovejoy777[/MENTION] were "Nearly perfect!"

Cheers.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Italico:
You guys are legends. Thank you for the support for the old device. We ALL thank you for your work.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
OK guy's its up post 2 in op. build V45. needs a clean install.

I have included the volume app as a system app.

also we now have Layers (see post 3). :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
Please read up on layers and ask any questions (koop or myself will answer where we can).

and the new SionV1.7 app is not to be used outside of this rom. (until the BitSyko Team get there new app up and running).

Please take the time to thank Syko, Brian Gill and anyone else who is part of there team, they are doing an awesome job.

Enjoy Steve

P.s the translations need some work with V1.7 (this will not happen untill i can release it on the playstore).

Edit: before installing the new rom, delete sion from the playstore (my installed apps section) as you dont want the playstore V1.6 to overwrite the new version.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Trying Other Layers

If you try other Layers, please post your results here so that we can all benefit.

Thanks again to [MENTION=4410674]lovejoy777[/MENTION]. The Man, the Myth, the Legend!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
With Brians SynergyV2 layer
[Kindle Fire Android Development] benglim:
Hi. Have been using your ROM for some time and must say it is superb. For the recent V45 build, I encounter the following:

1. The MAC address is 000000001.

2. Wifi is very very slow.

Anyone else encounter this?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hedied4me:
Have not used Wifi a whole lot but it seems normal to me. This was my first flash from last slimkat. I really do like slimpop. Very smooth. Nice job lovejoy and koop and others.

Edit: Fudge, I forgot no Xposed modules
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Not for me. My Mac address is normal and my Wifi signal quite good.

Most probably your issue is do to some other program that you are using.

Do a clean install - Factory reset and then Advanced wipe Dalvik, Data, Cache and System.

Install ROM and PA GAPPs only. As you restart, DO NOT restore all your apps. Complete start up, then go to Play and restore one app at a time until you find the culprit.

(Are you using a VPN of any kind? That would be the likely place to look.)

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HOW TO HAVE FUN WITH LAYERS

Layers is a way to change the look and feel (the user interface, if you want to sound fancy) of ROMs. [MENTION=4410674]lovejoy777[/MENTION] has built Layers management into SION, which is going to make things far easier for all of you.

Here is how to have fun with layers:

I have a Layers zip file downloaded. In that zip are a number of APK files that change the look of various apps. For example, I have a Layer_Vending.APK, a Layer_Gmail.APK and a Layer_Hangout.APK. Again all in a single Layer.zip file.

I don't need to extract them or to do anything with them except to go to SION (make sure that you are running version 1.7 or higher when we move up) and select "Layers Installer." If you don't see that option, you are running an earlier version of SION. From the Layers installer, select "Choose Your Layers.zip" and "Install Chosen layer." After that, you must reboot for the Layer to take effect.

After installation, I stop to admire how pretty my apps all look. "Ohhhh ahhhh pretty" I say. But then I notice that one app, Hangouts say for example, doesn't look right. Maybe I have a white-on-white text-on-background error. But all my other apps are just fine. I go back to SION, again to the Layers install screen, but this time I go to the Delete layer section. I click on "Installed layers" and now I can see all the various apps that are being effected. I select Hangouts" then back to the main layers screen, click the checkbox that says "please confirm deletion" then pick "Delete your chosen layer." (I could have picked "Delete All Installed Layers" but I only wanted to remove one or maybe two.)

After the deletion, I reboot for it to take effect and sure enough, Hangouts returns to the original look.

I hope that is clear enough for everyone to be able to have fun.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] netreign:
which layers becomes for kindle fire....
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Cooper:
My experience with update so far...chrome beta is working with this update. Mac address is fine. Wifi takes about 15 to 30+ seconds to load a page, which seems very slow. I only have 6 or 7 apps installed from the play store and I'm using pico gapps. I can't download the new Google calendar with this update, install starts then 505 error. Apex browser takes a long time to load, sometimes timing out twice before rendering.

I've been tinkering with layers, started with synergy as recommended, I can see in sion that apk,s are installed but I don't notice a change other than Google plus site has a blue top bar (icon is still red). Contacts still seems the same. I'll play around a bit more and read up on it but please let me know if what I've described is what I should be expecting.

No complaints here just trying to help by providing an update. I love using the kindle again and look forward to learning more about layers.

Also I haven't installed any kernal yet. Should I have?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] netreign:
Where can I download sion 1.7....
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
You won't be able to install calendar through Play if you are using Pico. Try using Nano, should work fine. (That is not new in this update, there is a whole conversation about that earlier on.)

I think most of us have given up on Chrome for this device. There is a whole discussion some pages back. My preference is Dolphin with Jetpack, but pick your own. Also, try comparing load time of a page with the stock browser.

When I open Contacts, I have a dark gray (or grey, if you prefer) background. If yours is different, check that they contact Layer is installed. See my How To post.

There are no alternative kernels being developed. So you are good to go on that account.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
Your settings, notifications and quick settings should also be themed. But he has just released an update V3 which has playstore and others themed too. Ill post a link below
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934525825 SynergyV3 by Brian Gill
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
Delete all previously installed layers then install his V3

:D
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
I use micro pagapps package. Calendar works fine
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lllukas:
Sion v1.07 is default installed in newest Lovejoy's Slimpop.

Thank You [MENTION=4410674]lovejoy777[/MENTION] and [MENTION=3816775]koop1955[/MENTION] for the new build :) i just installed and going to test Layers...

Regards my dear friends

Gentlemen!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
Nice to hear from you mate :) enjoy but don't forget everything is beta on the layers front :) but i like it...
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hedied4me:
On the most recent build I've been getting constant android process FCs after uninstalling contacts and calendar (plus their storage apks) along with all the phone apks in titanium backup. I'm using the pico gapps. Should I just freeze those apps instead of uninstalling I wonder? I must be doing something wrong. I will try again tomorrow night and maybe I just need to let it settle a little while longer after flashing rom/gapps.

Edit: also using TWRP 2.8.1.0
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934526261 playstore synergyV3b. uninstall previous version of the vending.apk before applying this one over the top of synergyV3 full theme. (Keep all other v3.apk's) except dialler and any other.apk's that our kindle doesn't use.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] bflobills:
I also had this problem with the MAC address changing (0000000001) so my router assigned a new IP address (had a static IP before) as it didn't recognize the Kindle, however I just did a tablet reboot and the old MAC and original IP address where both there safe and sound, so if you experience this after a clean install, just reboot and don't worry - The MAC is Back! :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
[MENTION=4619113]bflobills[/MENTION] Thanks for helping with this, never would have thought of that.

Mind if I ask, what router was this?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
I'll try to give the new update a go tomorrow or Thursday. Would have installed it sooner but work and fire department have been crazy the last few days.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] bflobills:
Hi Koop - This is a Netgear Nighthawk R7000..
[Kindle Fire Android Development] kvestas:
Steve and Koop, you don't stop amaze us! Many thanks for both of you indeed.

I am just wondering, isn't the stock browser included in this new ROM version? Or I just can't find it? Did I miss an announcement about that? It's funny but I didn't download gapps before installing this ROM. Now I can't open any web link to download missing things... =)

Not a big deal, this is my fault and I can use my computer to push gapps from there. It's only a warning for others if this is really true.

Thanks again.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
Yes sorry i removed browser. I will include in my next build.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Wikdclown:
Ok after a few days of playing with this I can say it is great ,runs as good if not a tad better than slimkat did. Great work and ty.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
I'll take some of the responsibility for this, I should have caught it in testing.

Oh well, next time.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] icebrkr:
GAPPS; No Space on device

I've gone through the process of re partitioning the Kindle by following the instructions on the OtterX Bootloader page(s). I double checked my partitions sizes against the images posted as well. SlimPop loads/boots and all seems fine--- up until I attempt to boot into recovery and install gapps-v5.0. Not sure how my device is out of space when it's a clean/fresh install.

Any nudge in the right direction is greatly appreciated. I even went back to TWRP 2.7.1.0 since it supposedly fixed the partition issues in 2.8.x
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sd_shadow:
which gapps file are you using?

2.7.1.0 doesn't fix partitions, but does fix adb issues in some cases.

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because of the limited space on the kindle, micro PA gapps are recommended, and normally gapps are installed at the same time as the Rom.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] pfederighi:
There also doesn't appear to be a file manager. I ended up copying an apk to /system/app/folder with TWRP, so no big deal, but needed if, like me, you are trying to give up gapps. It is hard to install anything without a browser, file manager, or app store.

In case anyone cares... The latest version runs great without gapps. I first noticed this in the last version, when, for some forgotten reason, I reinstalled the ROM and noticed that it was much smoother and more responsive without gapps. Since then I haven't installed them and even removed them from my phone. Both devices are happier. Of course I no longer have the benefits of gapps, for which I'm still adjusting to alternatives.

As always, thanks for your great work.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] mnbrightblade:
How is this rom on battery usage? I ask because every rom I've tried has been horrible on battery usage compared to stock rom
[Kindle Fire Android Development] bflobills:
As far as I'm concerned, this ROM is as good as stock on battery life. There was a bug in the kernel (I think) that was discovered a while back by Hashcode which was draining the battery, but has been fixed. Best thing to do is try it out and if your not satisfied you can always go back, but I think those who are using this excellent ROM will all agree that the battery life is very good.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Please feel free to try it for yourself and let us know what you think. if by stock, you mean what the Kindle came installed with, you do understand that you will need to change partitions from Otter to OtterX, right?

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Not sure if we are going to include a file manager, going forward. Both [MENTION=4410674]lovejoy777[/MENTION] and I are using Root Explorer, which is more than most users might need. I know that other people love ES. My point is that it is, to me, a matter of choice. I think that you are the only user not installing Play, which offers a lot of choices.

I would suggest that you think about creating a Flashable zip that you can install alongside the ROM to give you what you want. See http://www.droidviews.com/create-flashable-zips-cwmtwrp-recovery/ for a "How To" guide.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Ixthusdan:
I am getting the best battery life since gingerbread. Full Android is better than some android. Kindle is still a useful tablet with otterx and slimpop.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] mnbrightblade:
Where to start?

The first post isn't clear and it there are several downloads, which one should I start with if starting new?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sd_shadow:
Slim-otterx-5.0.2.alpha.0.91-V45.zip
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Wikdclown:
Had been using the current ROM for awhile now and there is some things I noticed. For one SU doesn't seem to work at all (for some apps i use) unless you install SuperSU without SuperSU installed nothing is getting real root access, for example adaway won't write to host file, lucky patcher when trying to use the block ads option says it cannot get root access either also Es File explorer when you turn on root option cannot for example uninstall system apps. Greenify also will not auto hibernate. But all these problems are fixed if you install SuperSU so no real biggie.

Also I don't know if it's just me or some setting I have wrong but everything seems to kind of have a slight hesitation to it, for example when you tap buttons it seems to take a sec before it recognizes it or if you bring up recents seems slow (i know that is probably because of low ram ). I reinstalled slimkat and used same settings and do not experience this “hesitation” at all. I also realize this is alpha so naturally things will be modified or fixed at a later time.

The other thing I noticed is some of the games that work flawlessly in slimkat do not work so well or at all on slimpop.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] mnbrightblade:
tweaks for performance and battery life

Are there any recommended tweaks I can make to get optimal performance and battery usage on this device and rom? what's the best tool (e.g. Trickster)?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Haven't seen the SuperUser issue. Can you tell me what version of this ROM you are using? I just installed AdAway and it updated the hosts file just fine. I won't use Lucky Patcher, for a variety of reasons.

Have you done a clean install? Full wipe first? Then made sure that the animations are set to .25, that you are running overclocked, etc? Because I am not getting any hesitations, although I have in the past.

As for games, if they work better for you on Slimkat, then go for it. A lot of games aren't supporting Lollipop as yet.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Wikdclown:
I always clean install setup as a new device, was using latest release. I usually run animation settings off but I tried with .25 still had the hesitation. Everything I tried that needed/used super user would not work properly *shrug

The games are lollipop supported but will not run properly.

I thought maybe a bad install but flashed several different times same effects and yes I checked md5 etc.

The only thing is I did not run OC'd could be the hesitation culprit.

The reason I mention the games is if some other user was thinking of upgrading they should know of this especially if this is the only tablet they have and want full use of their apps.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
The ROM has already been tweaked, but here are the settings that most of us are using (should be there already by default):

In Settings > Developer Options, all three animation scales should be set to .25.

In Trickster, Max should be set to 1200000. You can try different Governors, I use Interactive.

That is about it. Again, these should already be set, but go ahead and check.

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Overclock should be on by default. Last thing that I can suggest is start with just ROM and GAPPs. Decline when Google wants to restore all your programs. See it that feels snappy. Then add one program at a time and see if there is on that is bogging you down.

Best that I can suggest.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] mnbrightblade:
Okay, thanks for the info on tweaks. Has anyone found a way to update lock screen wall paper yet? Also, the GAPPS package installed replaced the stock browser with chrome, which is fine because I like Chrome, but it seems very laggy and seems to freeze up the system from time to time.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
Lock screen and recents blackout is a low ram feature in lollipop. Hashcode is trying to fix it without us needing to set lowram = false. Root is fine for me too. Hesitation i get sometimes (kindle spec's struggling with lollipop). And games issue, could it be caused by the drm issue we have??
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Os_A:
Well I did a clean install yesterday. My first Lollipop. I don't feel that the lag is worse then it used to be in Slimkat. Screen sort of black-outs sometimes when I start a new memory-consuming app, wasn't like that in slimkat.

What I really miss though is Darkslim (what happened to it?).

And the smartass governor, it's gone? KitKat only?