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[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] rignfool:
Oh... This is super easy to explain...

I rarely get more than about 4 hours screen on...

However... I am 16 to 18 hours off the charger... 2 hours on the phone... An hour or so on navigation... Between 2 and 5 hours of Spotify... CONSTANTLY moving...

On top of that...

A FULL compliment of GApps... Sync on all the time... WiFi on whether I'm connected or not...

When I was running ElX... I was topping out at about 15%/hr screen on...

Then... I'd fire up Real Racing 3... And kill battery at a rate of 20-25% per hour...
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Formhault:
1h12m SOT.

Could it be that my battery is THAT fudged up? But if it was, my phone would shut off at 15%, not allow me to use it until the battery meter goes "!" (<5% available). Right?!

*contemplates reincarnation*
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
hi, thanks for sharing your horrible experience LOL. i'm starting too feel priviledged, but kidding aside, i have no clue, what are you doing during those 1.5 hours, what do battery stats say about consumers and voltage. if voltage on full charge show low numbers then it's hardware. this result is so extreme that i tend to second your thinking into the direction of a borked battery. are you able to full charge, if yes check voltage. mine shows 4351mV and 3237mA.

further you can put your device under heavy load, let's say copy a large file from or to an OTG and check voltage, if voltage will collapse to the cellar the battery is most probably borked.

dunno about those super low percentage behavious because i never go there and i did once i 5 years i'd not have paid special attention and then each device/rom/kernel behaves different.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Formhault:
Here you go.

(Tapatalk won't let me upload screenshots, cause they're larger than 195 KB in size. It worked a few hours ago. WHAT THE FLYING HOTDOG MAN?!)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] shayneflashindaily:
Anyone have issues with video? Instagram so far has issues
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] nathanchance:
I'm not having any issues with video in YouTube, Instagram, Netflix or Twitch. Might be a ROM issue, what are you running?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
it seems the temp is very high and app usage indicates that it's an app causing it but you have to look which app, nice shot but does not tell very much ;)

see my shots, those are detailed infos :p
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] nathanchance:
Hey [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION], here is a little token of my appreciation for all the hard work you do for us here: 1PC24332DG428152Y. I've seen all of the work you have been doing on the 5X and the 6P and I felt like giving back. I know it isn't much but hopefully you can enjoy it this weekend, maybe go see Star Wars or something lol. My friend is using EX on his 6P and I am trying to convince my GF to start using it on her 6 since it is that good. Keep up the solid work.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] NOSTALGIA:
reward [MENTION=6842057]nathanchance[/MENTION] with a 6p.. for his help..... ^_^
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] raycaster3:
Have had several random reboots. Any ideas? last_kmsg here:https://db.tt/DFBOSgsm
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] flar2:
As usual, no kernel errors. Watchdog bite again. It's either hardware, or some app I think.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] raycaster3:
Just wanted to rule it out/provide kmsg instead of dropping in and saying " Dude, phone reboots." And not do the minimum of using one of the nice little features of your app. Thanks for your time. I've not run any other but elementalx on my n6 been a user since htc m7 days always been a fan. They've seemed to have abated no anyhow.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] FedericoUY:
Any known problems with this kernel and cataclysm rom?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] suku_patel_22:
None.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] nixie2121:
no, all perfect!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] FedericoUY:
I get a non boot if set max cpu speed to 3033 on aroma installer... Also, when this value is default, it will boot... Sweep to left is the only gesture that works even if selecting all from installer... :|
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
if it's not obvious for you why it won't boot that much overclocked you should better not play with voltages and clock frequencies. gestures work well, check in the app if those not working are disabled and set on boot.

there is no reason to overclock this device BTW, you can do for fun but stay within safe limits ( 10% max )
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] FedericoUY:
If not choosing there the max, i do not have it as an option with a kernel app, and then play with volts, so i do not know why it tries to boot at that speed since the option is "max" cpu speed... It should try to boot at default and add it as option...
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
that's not true, you could perhaps choose a max value which is neither max nor stock but something in between? as mentioned, 10% max = around 2800
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Formhault:
Temp very high? 87 Fahrenheit = ~30 Celsius degrees. That's nowhere near high temperature, lol. My Nexus 6 is naked, no case on it, just a tempered glass and a dbrand skin...

So... I need to get a hold of Battery Monitor Widget Pro, huh? Won't Better Battery Stats / WakeLock Detector do?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] rignfool:
Humor me...

Turn on your Bluetooth... Even if your not connected to anything... See how that affects battery life
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
yeah, i'm european and temps are automatically take as C while the F is clearly visible, sh.. happens, doesn't change anything as to the culprit, just was a missed F, may bad of course.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] KonoeKyon:
You can try making a su.d or init.d script to change voltages during boot or set max CPU frequency to 2649 and hope it applies soon enough to make it stable. But not every phone can handle that overclock. Even if you can get it to boot and adjust voltages you have a high chance of other stability issues.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Alxoom33:
Keep OC to 2880 max. Unless you want to ruin your N6. Good thing EX didn't allow you to boot at that frequency.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Formhault:
Actually, I started using a Syllable A6 bluetooth headset (got it a couple of weeks ago) for almost 2 hours a day. Battery life is the same :)

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Okay.

Now... Help? :crying:
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] v12xke:
My device (stock ROM) is currently unencrypted and I would like to keep it that way. If I fastboot flash the new system, radio, bootloader and boot.img files from a Google factory image, reboot to recovery and then flash EX before booting normally will this keep my device unencrypted? Do I really need to flash the stock Google boot.img every time I upgrade, or is this a wasted step if I immediately flash EX afterwards? Thanks.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
as i said nothing changed, search the culprit with the tools or similar tools i posted the screenshots, more detailed info one cannot get as to what exactly is going in inside kernels and system. many people state that android system is using battery but android system is not just a task or an app, it's bunch of different things under that title and the shot i posted shows what's inside. the name the app is batter widget pro form 3C
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] flar2:
Don't boot with the stock kernel or you'll be encrypted.

After flashing everything, including stock boot.img, immediately boot to recovery and install SuperSU. Then boot to system, set it up, then flash EX.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] TriguyRN:
Excellent kernel. I am getting amazing battery life and the wake locks I was experiencing on my ROM's stock kernel are now gone. Thank you.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] jbeezley:
I see you've been chasing your battery stats for awhile. Why? If they are consistently poor no matter what changes you make wouldn't that indicate to you that your battery is probably failing? I'm sure that there are some phone shops that could swap your battery if you're not comfortable doing it. I can get that done here for about $35. Small price for that service, actually.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Formhault:
Yeah, I know that app. I'll have to get it, see how things go. Thanks!

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I live in Romania, where most people react to the Nexus 6 with "what's that, the iPhone 6 Plus? oh noes, it's a Motorola, crap lol run jeff run". So getting a battery is impossible. I've seen some on eBay, but most are 3025 mAh (and I can get them for as little as $5, for crying out loud) and most likely to explode within a few months or so. Hell, even US based sellers sell 3025mAh batteries, for >25 USD. What the hell...

This is the closest I could find to 3220 mAh. But it's not Motorola original...

Okay, I've seen iFixIt's teardown guide. The Nexus 6 seems to have a 3025 mAh battery indeed. But everyone on the Internet says it has a 3220 mAH battery. :confused:
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Formhault:
I apologize for cluttering the thread with off-topic :(
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Faridcboy:
this kernel has slowed down my phones performance speed, like a lot, I experience a lot of lags...

think I have to switch back to the stock one..
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] v12xke:
Thank you for the reply. I thought the installation of your kernel was modifying the boot.img to no-force encrypt but it sounds as if it is Super SU. My understanding from reading Chainfire's notes (in WIP) is that starting from 2.64 the new install script for Super SU will default to a system root if able, and only write to the boot.img on the fly if forced to install systemless. Now I can't be sure if the boot.img will be modified to enable no-force encrypt. I would like to hear your thoughts on the recent changes to Chainfire's install script and how it will "decide" whether a stock ROM will be rooted via system or systemless. I'm hoping it is systemless so I will not have to worry about a modified boot.img again.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
battery is exactly 3218mA ;)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] calbruc:
I just started running this kernel with Cataclysm, and am running into an issue that I had when I last used it a year or so ago when the N6 development really started popping.

If I set sweep2wake to "up," maybe one out of ten times, it won't unlock. Sometimes the screen is totally unresponsive, sometimes the unlock animation will freeze, but if I press the power button and try again it always works.

I've posted this in the past (though I think on a ROM thread) and nobody seemed to be having the issue. Could it be something specific to my phone?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
yes, most probably while you don't mention much as to what else you suspect. definitely sure is that it's neither rom nor kernel issue, works as expected ever since it's available.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] flar2:
If you are using the wake gestures app, try without it. That app has never worked well on this device for some unknown reason.

It works 100% of the time if enabled kernel-only. If you were not using the wake gestures app, your sweep distance is probably not long enough.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] calbruc:
Thanks for the response. I'm not using the Wake Gestures app and it's definitely not a question of improper sweeping.

Something just occurred to me, though. I have an up-swipe gesture set in Nova that expands my recent apps. I'm gonna disable that and see if it helps. I'll report back.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
Hey [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] :) Don't know if you saw, but Chainfire released SuperSu 2.64 with some changes that need to be supported in kernel to be workable http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64161125&postcount=3
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Formhault:
BMW says mine is 3122 mAh.

2 years ago, that app was extremely accurate in estimating how much capacity your battery holds. It required you to make at least 3 discharge-charge cycles, after which it would show (back then, the app looked differently, I forgot where exactly) X mAh. Was spot on for my (then) Galaxy Note...

Just installed 3C Helper. Guess that helps with accuracy. Will keep on digging :laugh:
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] flar2:
Everything should work same as before.

You root the phone however you want, then install ElementalX.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
ja but be careful to stick to your original topic LOL. your topic was what capacity an original battery has and what kind of batteries are available in which price range for replacement and then the final statement was ( to which i replied ) that it seems that original battery capacity would be something like 3025. that's what you wrote in THIS post.

and now we diverted to measurement accuracy, as you can see mine is 2mA off only which is because it's not new anymore. follow this link:

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Google-Nexus-6_id8626 and see the original battery specifications out of the box and see the screenshot and compare with my posted value of 3218mA. so all i wanted to do is to make clear that the stock capacity is 3220mAh ;)

yes that app is very accurate and installing the helper is a must to get the most out of it. i recommend to make flashable zip from that helper so that you can safe yourself from installing it and reboot again after each rom flash, but flash it together with rom, kernel and whatever else you have to each time (SSU etc.)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] jbeezley:
I would say that the 3122 reading is a confirmation of your misdiagnosis of software problems. You have a hardware problem... Failing battery.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Formhault:
I don't think that I get less than 4 hours of SoT due to my battery being 3122 mAh (less than 100 mAh lower than it should have been). If I had those extra ~100 mAh or so, would I have been able to play Backgammon at full brightness with weak Wi-Fi signal for 8 hours (like some other dudes reported across the forum)? Lol.

Anyway, BBS has helped me conclude Facebook and LightFlow throw in some 150 wakes per hour. Which is funny, because I just started using Facebook app less than 1 month ago, and haven't noticed any change in battery drain. Same for LightFlow, which I've installed about 3 months ago...

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[MENTION=5372360]magnamentis[/MENTION]

Well, what the hell, iFixIt torn down the device and discovered a 3025 mAh battery. Which is :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: worthy.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
he is totally right, if that reading is right it indicates that your battery is detoriating and if that is the case you will not have bad SOT because of the 3122 mAh but because your battery will loose voltage as well on load ( i told you to check voltage on heavy load but never got feedback to that ) and then the battery will discharger faster because it can hold power less steadily. hence IF that reading is true that indeed hints to a dying battery. as already stated, it should be 3220 and if it does not charge up it's in bad state which comes with sideeffects that have a greater impact than just 3% less SOT, in fact that can be up to over 50% less SOT since under load broken battery can collapse from 100% to something much less in seconds even. you can try that with a broken car battery, seemingly fully charged and after 10 seconds of using the starter it can be 99% dead. ( voltage in the cellar ) once a battery is borked all those values in idle or disconnected mean more or less nothing anymore.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Formhault:
I'll carry on with this via PM, if you don't mind? I can sense [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION]'s anger building up :silly:
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] flar2:
I don't mind OT conversations
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
nice move but this is meaningful IMO because battery stuff is in everybodies interest and each time we can learn while we watch others having and solving issues. further there is no "that's" it solution from distance and that far this might be of interest. of course feel free to continue via PM. not saying no :) up to you.

load a game or initiate media scanner or anything else that puts the accu under heavy load and monitor the voltage at the same time best of course with a floating monitor so that you can see what happens upon triggering the proceess. if it drops significantly and even more so when it fluctuates intermittently you have to go for a new battery.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Formhault:
Okay. :angel:

So, what I had initially sent over via PM to magnamentis is :

I just installed 3C Helper last night. BMW is sort of in the background, doing readings every 5 minute. So... didn't quite get to see the voltage. I mean I think without 3C Helper, readings are more off...

I've focused on BBS. Sent a log to buckmarble, and he concluded that Light Flow and Facebook are killing my battery. Funny, I installed LightFlow 3 months ago and haven't noticed any impact on battery life. Same goes with FB : installed it 1 month ago, no change. Regardless, I've uninstalled Facebook, Messenger and Light Flow. Will see how battery is throughout the day.

If things are STILL bad, I'll see what BMW says.

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Thank you :)

Floating voltage monitor... Does BMW Pro provide such a tool?

Heck, I used to be pretty skilled in BMW, know how to set it up & read it a couple years back. Now, look at me :eek:

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The fact that the battery is sealed doesn't pose any problem in itself. The battery seems fairly easy to take out, but I have a dbrand skin applied, and I'm not sure if I can remove the back cover without damaging the skin.

And then, what? As I said, iFixIt discovered that the Nexus 6 is powered by a 3025mAh battery. On top of that, most eBay sellers have 3025mAh batteries, claiming they are genuine. There is only one battery which comes closer to the value I thought the battery has : an X-longer 3200mAh battery, which is about 30 USD. What do you think about that? 3220 vs. 3025 :eek:

I have no idea what battery I should get. Cause there is no original Motorola 3220mAh one... At least within ~40 USD, including shipping...
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
common buddy, do we now have to post our 3220 in hundreds to compete with one iFIXit post? i mean in every spec sheet from google over motorola as well in "i'm sure" everyones battery stats the value is higher than 3025 but close or at 3220. what other proof do you need to accept that those 3025 are a fairy tail or a type error ? ;)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Formhault:
Okay... Then my best bet is the 3200mAh battery from X-longer... if the battery turns out to be THAT screwed up. Cause so far, with LightFlow out of the way, I am at 38% with 3h of SoT.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
which will end up with 4.5h which is almost half of what's possible. i'm do the voltage test because that's the best indicator and perhaps report back what you did and how it ended, (a) we can learn from it and (b) i'm curious :)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Formhault:
Spot on :) 4h30m, battery down to about 5%.

See the attached screenshots. Those were the top 5 consumers. Right below them was WhatsApp, eBay etc. The only times when I was with little to no mobile signal were when the subway went through a dead zone - less than 15 seconds at a time, and pretty rare.

Funny thing. Wi-Fi appears to have been always on, although I wasn't at home from 15:00 to about 22:30. While I was away from home, Wi-Fi was off, and 3G mobile data was on. When I got back home, I switched them around... Is this the Wi-Fi radio active bug?

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I'm gonna get System Monitor and see what the battery voltage behaves like. I'll crank up the display brightness and play Agar.io while streaming an YouTube video via BSPlayer to my bluetooth headset, all on 4G. Oh, I might record my screen while doing all this.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] jbeezley:
How are you finding these expensive batteries on eBay?! I just searched ”Motorola nexus 6 battery OEM" and my top result was $11.95 free shipping/ships worldwide. Are your batteries incurring some other charge for the shipping to Romania?

Maybe you should get semi skilled and open your own phone shop. You'd probably make a killing. Just do batteries and screens. You can learn it all on YouTube and ifixit. Most screens replacements are fairly straightforward and simplistic once you get the nerve up to crack the seal.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
one thing is sure cell radio uses 700mA which is huge had you been on wifi only your SOT would be about 1h or 1h 20' more and then we would come into a range of normality.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Formhault:
I assure you, the Wi-Fi quick settings toggle was OFF. I turned that thing off when I left the house, and turned it back on when I got back home. That thing in the screenshots has been boggling me... almost as high battery usage as the screen...

If I do an eBay search for "Motorola nexus 6 battery OEM", select "Buy It Now" and uncheck "Free international shipping", without any price limit (to show all results, except bids, which I'm not sure I care about in this case) and sort the results from lowest price to highest price... the 5th result is a battery (this one, which is 3025 mAh, not 3220 - again with the capacities, you see?). The first 4 results are alleged OEM back covers, which don't have the M logo (so not really OEM afterall :rolleyes: ). Hope we're getting the same results, and geolocation doesn't influence eBay searches...

Yep, it's not geolocation. At least not entirely. You probably searched with "Best Match" selected, and found this right away. You see, I'm in Romania, so that's $11.95 + $8.99 for shipping. And it is exactly the same battery as the 5th result (the one from china, linked above).

You really think that's an original battery? Again, I can't stress this enough : 3025 mAh...
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] JohnSpawnVFX:
Do you have that Google setting of searching for Wi-Fi networks, even with Wi-Fi turned off, disabled?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
did you check your wifi advanced settings, there is a toggle "wifi always on" but it does not use that much power, i have it on too.

BTW if you drive around and have often bad cell coverage that is unavoidable. i'd say that bad or intermittent cell signal with frequent tower switches accounts for at least half of all reported seemingly unaccounted for battery drain. on LTE even much worse than on 3G