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[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] :
Running nitrogen, with elemental X kernel, new build is even better than last. Thanks for that. This kernel patches your existing kernel's ramdisk, and magisk patches your original boot.img that contains the ramdisk now patched with elemental X. so if u use magisk for root, u don't have to re root after flashing the kernel.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
i disagree, too many issues in the past with not flashing magisk last and it's not worth to alter the method for each case separately while there is an always safe method.

further if you say "now patched with ElementalX that means EX was flashed before magisk which after all is exactly what i'm saying, no matter what the details are. if there is a safe method that always works that's the one to recommend.

which method you are using is your personal choice and freedom, which we recommend to others is not because not everyone knows how to troubleshoot and what may cause an issue.

there were a multitude of such examples over the last couple of years where some people felt prone to generalize their temporary findings only to find a lot of people in trouble who were either using another setup and/or things changed again.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] SteveYoungs:
Hi [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION]!

I just wanted to thank you for the amazing work that you do. I've been using your kernel and EXKM for quite a while now and they're brilliant!

A quick question, are you planning any further Nougat kernel releases or will it be Oreo only from now on?

Cheers.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] :
I flash rom, gapps, magisk 15.3, then let it boot. Then after setup, I go back and flash another kernel if I want. This kernel is unique in that fact u won't have to reflash root. UNLESS u use SuperSU; Magisk patches the inbuilt kernel, elemental patches ramdisk of said existing kernel, so in fact after elemental X installation what u have is a magisk patched modified boot.img or kernel. it won't hurt anything if u want to re root to ensure everything works good.I was just letting you know with this particular kernel, its not necessary. I will also mention I still am encrypted. I know people run into more frequent issues once they decrypt
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] cujo6801:
All good here...

"Sent from the Dog Pound"
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] DrGonzo6o:
Anyone using EX with Dirty Unicorns 8.1 Rc? Or have I missed something? I've used this kernel with Du with out issue for the past year I know. I can't get past Google splash screen much less to boot loop. Lol! I've had to missed something.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] heisenbergfromIN:
Is SELinux Permissive in your case as well, or is it just me?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] michele72:
There you go, I thought it was just me. So, unfortunately no luck with 5.04 on AICP 8.1 which is LineageOS based. It sticks at Boot Animation. It is not a conflict with root methods either because I tried with Magisk and SuperSU (before and after flashing Kernel) and also I tried the Rom completely unrooted just with EX. I think DU is LineageOS based too (it used to be in the past) so there lies the problem. Thanks for the app and the Kernel btw!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] vlaf:
Its not, DU latest version is AOSP based...
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] H4X0R46:
Yeah mine is set to permissive. It seems to be fixed for me though. I think an update to the app was pushed to fix it.

https://imgur.com/a/UWEFd
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] ajaynsurana:
I had the same issue with first release but didn't try on second release yet
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
we are not talking about the same thing, you talk about proving that you don't have to re-root which might be true in this case and which is your personal freedom to safe the few seconds to flash magisk again as the last zip while what's the point?

flashing magisk again as the last zip (add one more to the queue) costs nothing except 2-3 seconds to make 2 or 3 clicks if it's in the same folder like all the other stuff used to flash (efficiency)

i on the other side talk about to "NOT recommend" this procedure to others without need, without real benefit and without someone has asked while at the same time the risk that this does not work in other configurations is very high, hence high risk on one side and no siginificant benefit on the other side, means no good thing to recommend.

i wouldn't want to go deeper into the underlaying motivation for posting this other than trying to stand out as extra smart.

so any reply that talks about the technological truth in this case (and only this case) is not target leading in reply to my point that even though it might be working in this case it's wrong to recommend one time working procedures without benefit if there is an always working procedure without additional risk to bricking a device.

we are doing many things that wold work without doing them just to prevent to one time it wouldn't work, for example stopping at redlights and using turn signals one turning right or left. it works without, you can still go left and right, but sooner or later there will be a crash, hence better do it without need in case you need it sooner or later
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] :
Hahaha omg really? Uh oh. We got another one...There is no "one time working procedure". Its fact. I was letting others who may not understand kernels and rooting that they can bank on it, it is proven in multiple devices and if u read up on said information, u would arrive at the same conclusion. Furthermore, seriously? I was just trying to help others. Period. No need for all that other garbage. The only thing anyone actually goes deeper into is the actual technical specifics I mentioned here. I need no " validation" from anyone or anywhere else. I only post to help others. My record proceeds me on xda as someone who consistently helps people. I noticed this nexus forum has a bunch of hot heads who get butt hurt when someone tries to help them. What are you asking for help or advice for then? I'm sorry u don't get the validation u require.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
last try

last try:

tell me exactly what is helpful with not having to, or willingly not flashing magisk as the last zip either way, as i said, no benefit hence no help.

to help someone one has to either do a welcome or needed service, submit useful information or solve an issue and none of this is provided by recommending not to flash magisk always last, needed or not needed does not matter

uttering "OMG's" is usually the last resort once really debatable arguments are non-existent.

same applies to "BUT I JUST....." it's the start to a lame excuse in most cases, similar to a compliment followed by a complaint, two very common attitudes in all kinds of conversations nowadays, everything but straight forward and matter of factly kind of hypocrite.

last but not least it's not about need for validation. it's about not doing damage under the disguise of pretending to be helpful by submitting either false or unnecessary information that could cause problems for some less experience users. if there is a relative value it has to be flagged as such and if there is no value at all but contains a risk, no matter how small, it's counterproductive.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] saryon1:
Is there another download location?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] H4X0R46:
No not currently. Flar is keeping the Oreo builds for our device limited to people who bought his app. A couple bucks though, not expensive. He may choose to publicly release it later, but that's his call.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Cobra11Murderer:
How's bat life on it?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] H4X0R46:
So far I think it's pretty evened out. Has a good amount of different governor's to choose from. Hard to say though, I think my battery is dying from everyday use so I couldn't give you a promising opinion. But lots of good features!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] flar2:
Just pushed version 5.05 for Android 8.1.0 to EXKM (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.exkernelmanager)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] garywojdan81:
Changelog?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] heisenbergfromIN:
Upstream updates.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] logan71f100:
Aicp 13.1 no boot, just stuck at boot animation for 30 mins flashed back to stock kernal, any ideas?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] pedrim19:
Guys, can anyone use Google pay with this kernel?

Im trying to solve ctsprofile problem.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] logan71f100:
What version are you running, it's best to not be bleeding edge if you need to pass the cts scan... 7.1.1 was always good for me using the latest version of magisk available with this kernal
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Dungeon47:
It's been a known issue with AICP since 8.0. It's unclear to me whether it's a ROM or kernel issue. It's the only thing still keeping me on 7.x
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] H4X0R46:
From what I gathered on the AICP thread is that it's the rom. Like, it doesn't boot with any kernel besides the built in one. Bummer I know, I really like AICP but I got spoiled with ElementalX as well! Try Validus rom though, next best thing ;) using it right now.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] pedrim19:
Im using nitrogen os 8.1 with magisk 15.3 and kernel ElementalX 5.05. i did a Lot of things to solve this problem, no sucess :/
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] H4X0R46:
Google "osm0sis unsu" and find the zip. Most likely, you need to flash that to remove ALL traces of root. And THEN reflash magisk. That's what I do and it always works.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] rfactor117:
After purchase Is EX Kernel Manager device specific?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] martinez5241:
".....This feature can be used to extend the app to support other kernels and devices and other settings I don't have in the app by default...."

https://elementalx.org/exkm-user-settings/
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] rfactor117:
It was a simple question... I have purchased EX Kernel Manager on one device... On my second device which is the same type of device its asking for me to purchase again... Can any one clarify this???
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] martinez5241:
Now that your more specific..... it's because it's your phone ID. Just because you have 2 same phones with the same google account doesn't mean it becomes a clone. Google play store already known you have this app installed on one phone. You would need something like this..... https://goo.gl/mvTBD5 to clone devices. Or just clone the app and transfer to the other.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] rfactor117:
My orriginal question was specific, so If what you say is true and ex kernel manager is specific via device ID I will uninstall ASAP and ask for a refund.

Thank you
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] flar2:
Works forever on unlimited devices. Sometimes the Play Store screws up, just wipe Google Play data and reboot.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] rfactor117:
Thks so much really appreciated ?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] selw0nk:
I get screen tearing when I use this kernel. But when I am using the stock kernel on Beltz I do not get the screen tearing at all. I'm guessing it's a kernel thing.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] flar2:
Switch to interactive governor
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] nick491:
Just installed 5.05 and haven't had an issue at all. Thank you!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] michele72:
5.05 working great with Validus Oreo 8.1 Beta and Magisk 15.3! AMAZING! Considerably extended battery up time by using Conservative Governor and limiting down to 1 CPU during Sleep. It doesn't seem to support NTFS on USB but that is "nice to have" and not urgent. THANK YOU!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] selw0nk:
Where would I find the option to limit down to 1 CPU during sleep?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] michele72:
Kernel Adiutor Mod:

- CPU Hotplug, Max Online Cores during suspend: set to 1

Flar's EXKM:

- CPU, scroll down to Hotplug Options

- Hotplugging options, select "Custom hotplugging"

- Cores online during suspend: set to 1
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] eric4shay:
Not sure if the people on 8.1 got there issues fixed but it's working fine on my end here make sure you use latest recovery maybe that's the issue here's a screenshoot
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] heisenbergfromIN:
Is SELinux Enforcing in your case? I used the same setup but couldn't get SELinux policies to enforce.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] H4X0R46:
Heads up, there's a new Validus build ;) dated 1-28.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] nick491:
Ok, followed the steps you provided. After that how exactly do we enable always in EXKM?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] ikonline:
I'm on my N6 running Nitrogen oreo.

When I use the kernel that come with the flash file I have deep sleep (betterbatteryStat). When I install this kernel via Ex app The N6 won't go into deep sleep. The battery drains then.

Any ideas or suggestions?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] McMannes:
Friends, when the phone charge drops below 40 percent, the phone started to work slowly, so was the stock ROM, how can I solve this problem?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Berlino:
The throttling-behavior related to battery-levels can be edited in thermal-engine-shamu.conf in /sytem/etc...further informtion can be found here

I've edited it to limit the frequency at 20% battery level to 2.265 MHz.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] NLBeev:
Confirmed, yesterday flashed ElementalX only. Root access OK.

It's true.

Flashing is always a risk.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] ashutoshgoyal:
I too had same issue on Nitrogen oreo. I uninstalled this kernel and battery drain went away with proper sleep. Earlier I had this kernel with PureNexus Nougat without this issue. Strange.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] garywojdan81:
Anyone try 5.0.6 yet?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] selw0nk:
Not yet. I have no idea it was out. :cyclops:
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] ahmedkordofani:
Has anyone tested out this kernel with the latest release of Lineage OS 15.1?

Awaiting confirmation
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] ikramii:
There is no lineage os version 15.1, its only 15 with android oreo 8.0.0
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] ahmedkordofani:
Here it is

https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=962187416754457236
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] ikramii:
Yeah but it is unofficial
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] ahmedkordofani:
Is there an official lineage 15 for the Nexus 6?

I don't think there is an official build above 14.1 but correct me if I'm wrong.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] ikramii:
There is no official lineage os 15 for nexus 6 until this time. Im sure there is gonna be lineage os 15 because there is already lineage os 15 beta
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] ahmedkordofani:
Yes hopefully
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] NLBeev:
Do you have a link?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] garywojdan81:
Nope, just got the notification thru the ex kernel app
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] bitwarrior1:
Tried it with nitrogen OS latest build and will not boot with 5.0.6, a few others in that thread are reporting the same. It hangs on the google logo then boots to bootloader only. Had to revert to backup before updating to get running
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] selw0nk:
The same happens in Nephilim rom.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Nogster:
Im on 5.06 and the app is saying a newer version is available... 5.06. Tried installing it just does the same thing.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] NLBeev:
5.0.6 is not on the website of ElementalX.

---------- Post added at 09:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:01 AM ----------

For those using latest Nitrogen rom of feb.6.

Booting with previous kernel or ElementalX 5.0.5 does end at the bootloader.

Flashing the rom-kernel 3.10.108 will boot with some FC's when Magisk is not installed.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] ikonline:
shamu with Nitrogen and magisk running with 5.06. no problems so far!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] NLBeev:
I'll try 5.0.6 when it is available on the website.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] nick491:
Same here.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] noenoen:
any suggestions kernel setting gov, gpu, cpu etc? im a gamer an im use ex kernel manager.

sorry for noob question
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] NLBeev:
Is Nitrogen the latest build (Feb 6) ?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] icdmize:
Nitrogen 06.Feb.2018, ElementalX v5.06, and Magisk v15.3 isn't working for me. Restarts to bootloader.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] NLBeev:
Seems the latest Nitrogen kernel has changed. The previous kernel restarts to bootloader. Same with ex 5.0.5 and 5.0.6.

EDIT

Beltz 8.10 rom version Jan 2018.

OK with EX kernel 5.0.6,

Beltz rom version February 2018,

OK with EX kernel 5.0.6.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Berlino:
Ex 5.06 works well with latest Velocity 8.1
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] nick491:
Same here, unable to boot with the latest Nitrogen 8.1 ROM and ElementX kernel. Tried re-downloading the kernel several times.

The Nitrogen kernel itself works but is obviously missing a few features of ElementX.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] NLBeev:
The latest Nitrogen OS can't be used with another Oreo kernel.

Not good[emoji34]
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] vignesh05:
I'm using Ex kernel 5.06 with Nitrogen ROM 8.1 ROM which works perfect for me without any reboot issues and screen on time of about 4 hours 30 minutes with remaining 15% which is great for me. The only issue is with deep sleep which reduce more battery than usual. Thank you for the kernel looking forward for the new update? which will fix the deep sleep.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Volidon:
Did you flash 5.06 after flashing nitrogen in twrp or after booting via the elementalx app?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] vignesh05:
I flashed the ROM and gapps first and then I booted my device.After that I flashed the kernel 5.05 and three days back I updated my kernel to 5.06.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] ikramii:
What version of nitrogen os you use? Time release maybe?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] NLBeev:
Not the latest..,
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] vignesh05:
Nitrogen-OS-8.1-shamu- 2018/01/29

Open_gapps-arm-8.1-nano-2017/12/09

Magisk 15.2

Ex-kernel - 5.05
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] ikramii:
No wonder. If yu up to nitrogen os feb release, you cant use ex kernel
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] head_banger:
Flash the kernel permissive patcher, search for it on google, should boot then then use a app to change it back to enforcing :)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
you should at least try to explain why you assume (jump to the conclusion) that your deep sleep issue is a kernel bug ?

a) i blutly tell you it's not

b) one should first ask how many users have the same problem before blaming either piece of software

c) 99% of all trouble is userspace and/or user error

d) provide a log to underline your assumption which in this case would most probably proof that it's not a kernel issue.

all the above especially applies to this kernel, because i don't even remember any bug even though i know there were 1 or 2 in many years LOL

first thing to throw an eye would be compatibility because i heard quite a few times about compatibility issues with that rom and custom kernel in general and at least versions should match.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] jkdrinkard:
I can confirm that on Nitrogen 8.1 (for Nexus 6) with exkernel the phone does not go into deep sleep. The default kernel does allow deep sleep to be achieved. This has been discussed some in the Nitrogen thread. Not sure of the cause. Just my experience for what it's worth.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] magnamentis:
yes that's true because nitrogen kernel is different like all others, means it's a rom/kernel issue that the rom is not easily or not at all compatible with kernels that are compatible with most if not all other rom's explicitly roms that are close to stock kernel wise. for this device google factory image set's the norm, this kernel is close to stock and nitrogen is the rom that diverts hence after all it's an incompatibility issue where as the rom is the culprit and not the kernel, culprit in the meaning that the kernel should remain as is and the rom either adapts or cannot be used with some or most renown custom kernels with the respetive downsides.

what is it all about, it's abou semantics, how does it sound and that post sounded, in the kernel thread, that something with the kernel should be changed/fixed while this is not the correct way to see it.

of course that does not mean the the dev cannot try to do something, decide to change priorities or that it's not allowed to ask. of course it's allowed to ask, but that did not sound like a neutral nice inquiry but like if something is wrong with the kernel and that is not the case and that is what my reply was pointing out.

all good, sometimes it's all about the point view and/or semantics while the fact that there is a compatibility issue in this case remains the same :)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] lionelhuts:
Just a heads up: 5.07 is available for download from the EX app.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] nick491:
Is there a changelog somewhere? I'm running the latest Feb. Nitrogen 8.1 with shamu and want to see if it works before trying.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] athulele:
https://github.com/flar2/shamu/commits/ElementalX-5.00
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] nick491:
Ok thanks but I'm not seeing the changelog.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] selw0nk:
Open Elemental Kernel Manager/ElementalX/check for update and you will see the changelog.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] nick491:
Oh. Thanks, I see it now.

---------- Post added at 07:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:52 PM ----------

Just confirmed that the 5.07 kernel and Nitrogen 8.1 February do not work together. The device does not boot when flashing the kernel.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] garywojdan81:
5.07 and beltz 02/08 work fine, although I did lose magisk when flashing through the app. All went fine after rerooting in twrp.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] def1003:
any other roms besides beltz working with 5.07?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Berlino:
You can try Screw'd beta on G+, works like a charm with Ex v5.07. Only bug in Screw'd 02/09 is nfc wakelock...freeze or delete nfc service and all is well.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Setialpha:
Validus works for me.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] nick491:
I know this has already been mentioned; 5.07 doesn't work Nitrogen OS (February) for shamu.

It's kind of cool that the developer added a feature found in Adiutor Kernel for simple GPU algorithm. It's read as an: "add-on for MSM Adreno TZ GPU Governor. Developed by faux123."
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] ikramii:
Everything work normal? No bug? Can use as daily?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Berlino:
Let's keep this thread clean and stay on topic of ElementalX kernel. Questions about Screw'd rom better be asked on G+, but so far the beta runs stable for me with Ex v5.07 and can be used as daily driver. I don't use bluetooth nor nfc, so I can't test all functions and scenarios, but nfc seems buggy, cause switching off is greyed out - so you are forced to freeze nfc service to get rid of the wakelock. :)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] NLBeev:
Nexus 6, Oreo 8.1 Beltz, EX 5.0.7.

Working Bluetooth and NFC.