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[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobbs204:
hey guys im looking for the stock FTF for Bell to go back to factory. Im sending the phone in for some warranty work as Im getting some hardware problems. I currently have an unbranded rom on it but would like to avoid any problems if they try and blame the firmware on it.

If you guys could lead me in the right direction that would be great as I've tried searching for it and keep coming up empty handed

thanks
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobbs204:
Still looking. Any help

thanks
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TurokHunter47:
http://xdaforums.com/xperia-z/general/guide-download-firmware-customization-t2311211
[Samsung Gear S] XxCyberHackerxX:
Could it be possible?
[Samsung Gear S] mghtymse007:
I too, would like to know the answer on this... I do know that Samsung offered original Gear owners the option to change their stock Android OS to Tizen.

http://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-brings-tizen-to-original-gear-smartwatch/

The two OS's and their hardware are simular in many ways.

I haven't looked, but has anyone ported Android to the Gear 2?
[Samsung Gear S] oleyb:
Given that the screen is arguably large enough and that we have all the cell hardware built in, I'd love to see a full android running on on the Gear S.
[Samsung Gear S] faithofgod:
There is already software that will port and Android app to Tizen. I believe it is $5,000 and mainly for larger developers. I would expect something similar to land in the freeware world sooner rather than later. They pack the apk with an Android runtime to make it work on Tizen. Not sure how well the current porting software works.
[Samsung Gear S] dreamid:
push push push

yes.. can't wait to c my gear s ported in android instead of Tizen!!!! pls help!!
[Samsung Gear S] cipherswitch:
ok...so not to bash anyones parade. But why would you want this?

I've had every version of the Gear and having Android on the original was painful. Battery life sucked, tethering was a major PITA and even after rooting it was "cool" but not usable for the average person. I've also gone through the Moto360 ( I had it for 5 days and returned it) and AndroidWear sucks beyond suck with some extra suck on the side. It can tell the heck out of time, its a great and sexy watch, that's it. I've had people watch me working ( I build custom pc's for a living), hear my phone get a text and watch me just glance at my watch and type a quick reply without having to stop what Im doing or reach for my phone. They instantly recognize how useful it is, using either full blown android or android wear...not so much. You dont know how stupid you look saying "ok google" until you see someone else do it.

On the flip side , theres alot of "smart" watches online, mainly from China and such that run android... maybe thats an option? Me personally, I was resistant to Tizen at first. But it works, it works well. Yeah there are some kinks here and there but all in all its ok.
[Samsung Gear S] Infos3c:
So, I've had my Gear S for a couple of months now and I feel qualified to respond:

1) Why would you want this (Android on the Gear S)?

a) Tizen SUCKS

b) Tons of basic functionality is missing

c) There are very few apps

d) Most apps to obtain standalone functional equivalence to a shipping Samsung Android device are paid apps - these things should have been included (like an on-device app store) - it is a stand-alone capable device, yet Samsung treats it like it is still bluetooth only. This reminds me of the early WinCE/WinMobile days when all apps had to be installed from a host PC.

e) I could continue, but this isn't an "I Hate My Gear S" response. Except for the lack of a front-facing camera, I LOVE the design and innate hardware functionality of the Gear S - much better than the blocky (but full featured) Neptune Pine.

f) F - the grade I would give Samsung on their use of Tizen for the Gear S

2)having Android on the original was painful.

That's why I never purchased the original Gear - without standalone functionality it can only ever be a "companion" device and Android is not designed for that. However, with the Gear S' standalone capability and its much larger screen, Android is a much better fit than Tizen.

3)tethering was a major PITA

"Standalone" - what don't you understand about that?

Gear S is a full phone/data/WiFi device - these old arguments are invalid.

4)AndroidWear

Not interested in Wear - as stated before, Gear S is/can be standalone and Wear is only for bt companion devices.

Something like the Google Glass interface would be better than Wear - but I still prefer full Android (with a customizable launcher for the smaller screen)
[Samsung Gear S] cipherswitch:
all being good points, except #3. Do you know how much power or heat is produced by the bluetooth tether that the watch currently uses? Almost none.... I cant say the same about the wifi/3g radio as that thing gets hot no to mention the hit on battery life. That being the case, Im not one to complain that I have to plug in the watch when I go to bed same as all my devices. Seriously, the people that complain about a 5 second task at the end of their day should be taken out back and beat with a hose.

All points considered, I have to agree with you in most part. If Tizen had the same amount of devs behind it that Android does then Tizen would be awesome. Sadly, thats not the case. I am actually working both (thanks to my wifes gear s) and am in the process of getting the original pit file so I can experiment a little. There was one dev (whose name escapes me right now) that wrote up how to roll back the original gear to android, the missing part there is the pit file for our devices. If I can figure that out then the rest "should" be somewhat easy.
[Samsung Gear S] ooms:
Hate to break it to you, if Android ever does get ported, you would come back to Tizen.

Android on this you would get 2-4 hours of battery.

Go into your settings on the watch and make your mobile network to always on, turn on mobile data, and turn off bluetooth.

Think of what apps you use, facebook? Bye bye even getting that 2-4 hours.

What kind of screen on time do you use on your phone?

Now think about what you get on your watch without all the apps.

Remember the watch only has 300mAh of battery.

The amount of programming in Tizen with regards to battery are crazy, you wouldn't get that in android.
[Samsung Gear S] gingerdude:
Very good points on the last few posts, I like choice so I'd like the option of android but I honestly love my gear s on tizen so I'm not fussed.

But an android port thread is something I would follow with great interest as this is where xda is at its best, where the community come together to make something impossible happen.
[Samsung Gear S] ooms:
There is a software company that has made an apk to tpk program(not out yet) so android apps would be able to be installed using sdb when it happens.
[Samsung Gear S] Vincent-iPhilo:
I'm definitely agree with you.

I have the original Gear 1 with android since the beginning (now with null rom of course) AND the Gear S since one month, and it's clear for me : i have the opportunity using Amazon (i'm in france) to return the Gear S till end of January and that's what i will probably do in a few days UNLESS there is a good reason to think that something like Null rom could happen to Gear S.

The Gear S plus Full android would be great because it works pretty good on Gear 1 and because Gear S can be used as a standalone device.

But the best would be Gear S + camera (like in the original Gear).

I think that what a lot of people want ( probably unconsciously) is a small smartphone on their wirst, that's why i presume that the first Apple watch itself wil be desapointing for many people.
[Samsung Gear S] illdill:
I agree and would love to see a slimmed down android on this device. The battery issue does pose a serious concern though (why I said 'slimmed down')
[Samsung Gear S] EFCLEE:
I am bitterly disapointed with my Gear S, unsure if all my flack should be flung at Tizen or Samsung but fact is, I am getting virtually no use from my Gear S

I have a Tab S 10.5 LTE which it does not connect to, so using it standalone with no features.

I should not have to use a different device in order to get more features from my watch, that aint happening as I have the bets tablet on the market so not going lower down in the spec

As soon as some clever cat puts Aindroid on their Gear S I will be first in line to do mine!!!

I cant even add an email account to my watch as it tries to sync....

So SMS and phone that whats I am paying 24 X £21, so thank you Samsung, not!!
[Samsung Gear S] gidi:
Totally agree with [MENTION=2242705]cipherswitch[/MENTION]. Enough wining people. You knew what you were buying. It is not supposed to be the Holy Grail, is it just the (by far) most advanced smart watch out there. Of course it is not perfect. But the 3G functionality as well as the GORGEOUS curved screen make this thing a one of a kind smart watch. It is everything Aplle fans would hope the Apple Watch would be and maybe more.

I am an Apple fan, mind you. I am using the Gear S as standalone mainly and sometimes with my iPhone 6+. If my main phone was an Android the total experience would be perfect.

One more thing: Having owned the Gear 1 with almost every OS variation. Tizen, stock Android, almost every single version of NUll ROM I can personally guarantee that a fully blown Android OS is just wrong for a smart watch. It is the triumph of gadgetry over practicality.

Battery life with Android was a total joke and one can only imagine what would happen when the Gear S (running Android) was used standalone. I bet you would be able to literally see the battery meter dropping.

Long story short: Do your homework before buying a piece of (fairly) new tech. Accept the fact that we are being early adopters. Try to get the most out of your Gears S and if you still do not like it, just get rid of it.
[Samsung Gear S] Dagaz:
Ironically just posted in the other forum. Agree and as to the write your own apps. Is what i did. Html5 and javascript. Looked at examples from others an adapted. Now it beats my gear fit hands down.
[Samsung Gear S] alanshortt:
thats exactly what I consciously wanted and thats effectively (ok almost effectively) what i now have
[Samsung Gear S] blazinandroid1:
I need sm-n750v firmware. If someone get me that. I will take the challenge to get android working on the gear. It might take me a few weeks to get the tweaks worked out. But it will be working. Null and I worked side by side on the first. Gear. And I sure won't give up on the gear s

Sent from my SM-N915V using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[Samsung Gear S] cipherswitch:
Um. Huh? Im sure you mean the R750V, in which case the SM-R750VZWAVZW. This is the Verizon wireless variant, no firmware download available. Nor is there one for the Sprint variant. Not as of right now anyways. If there was I'd be all over it like white on rice In all honestly, and not bashing Null as I have great respect for all that bio-digital jazz that was put out with that ROM and even personally used it. Im sure it was alot easier to go back to Android on a watch that started out as Android. Gear 2 and forward, Qualcomm has done a very very good job with their bootloader security, dont see it being done. But thats just my opinion, I may be horribly wrong.
[Samsung Gear S] andrew.mackew:
If it was wear we would lose 3G/phone call capabilities only, is that right? Other features could be backported?
[Samsung Gear S] biktor_gj:
That alone is half of the features of this watch ;)

Audio Out would be as limited as the Gear 2

3G data could be ported with a lot of work (I think) but phone calls... And having this stunning screen wasted... Wear was designed with 240x240px displays in mind, all watchfaces will look ugly!
[Samsung Gear S] andrew.mackew:
Got it, Android would be much more attractive if we could send notifications to watch as you mentioned.. on the other hand Wear with ugly watchfaces is really a no go. I wonder if even the stock watchfaces was designed in that way?
[Samsung Gear S] chiikko561:
I CANT wait to start testing... :P
[Samsung Gear S] Shum Channel:
Only full Android will reveal the potential of the hardware Gear S. Who wants to adjectival watch, can buy a lot of different devices.

biktor_gj, not be distracted by little things, do the basics. The rest - later.
[Samsung Gear S] computerguru:
As long as you were connected via WiFi, could use PushBullet to sync notifications. And writing an app to send notifications via Bluetooth probably wouldn't be hard to implement either. But let's let biktor_gj get Android running on it first...then we can worry about the notification details later. :)
[Samsung Gear S] chiikko561:
I know tablet talk works for phone calls and text notification and response
[Samsung Gear S] andrew.mackew:
Sounds good! 100% agreed.

Per what biktor_gj did on Gear 2 porting Wear for it, we can be sure that he'll do an excellent job here with Gear S, it's just a matter of time. He is the man! Excellent dev. :) :good:
[Samsung Gear S] gidi:
It is my opinion also that porting full Android is the way to go with this beast of a smartwatch.

Eagerly waiting for [MENTION=803006]biktor_gj[/MENTION] to post some news!!
[Samsung Gear S] gidi:
This is great progress! Nice work!
[Samsung Gear S] chiikko561:
Thank you for your hard work and in 2 days the amount of progress you made is amazing... So many people will be so grateful... Including myself...
[Samsung Gear S] biktor_gj:
Welcome to the family, Gear S!

It's still not booting, since it's getting stucked on the boot animation endlessly, but...

things are looking pretty good so far ;)

I think it might be a good time to start working in those device trees for android and make it a little cleaner ;)
[Samsung Gear S] hackerse7en:
OMG I cant believe, its really here, Its 5.1.1? :0

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
[Samsung Gear S] biktor_gj:
It's Cyanogenmod 12.1, so it's Android 5.1.1

I'm not sure about the memory though... 512 Mb is really small...

We'll see once it boots (fully)!
[Samsung Gear S] Shum Channel:
Maybe you need to create an additional 1 GB of virtual memory?

512 MB + 1 GB
[Samsung Gear S] biktor_gj:
The problem is it doesn't have much flash either... Let's hope 512 Mb+512 swap + Zram is enough ;)
[Samsung Gear S] hadobac:
Congratz on your achievement mate ! I am a happy owner of Gear 2 Neo, hats off to your awesome work !

I personally believe Kitkat 4.4 - or CM11 - will be a great fit for Gear S, since Kitkat is more optimised for device with small RAM, specifically 512MB. I have seen Lollipop with Galaxy S, and performance-wise, it quite lags :)

Anyway, the priority now is to get the components works, so the Android version choice does not matter. Keep it up mate.
[Samsung Gear S] Shum Channel:
+1 :good:
[Samsung Gear S] hackerse7en:
Since this seems based on s3 neo board , maybe we have NFC or FM radio Chip Built in ?:confused:

It makes sense disable it on tizen, but since WE NOW RUN ON ANDROID :good::good: YEAH! maybe the hardware is there, and is just missing some libs or so, Lets hope for the best :victory::victory:

Fingers Crossed :) :cool:

Thanks a lot for your remarcable work, and btw to where can we make the donations :D :laugh:
[Samsung Gear S] andrew.mackew:
Does Wear do a better job in this memory/performance matter?
[Samsung Gear S] andrew.mackew:
So theoretically, it would make our Gear S behave better..

Let us leave our awesome dev (biktor_gj) do his magic :) :good:
[Samsung Gear S] scarfacedag:
Android should run great on 512mb of ram I still have my gear 1 running NULL Rom and it's a beast everything my note does it does let's just all sit back and let biktor_gj do what he do
[Samsung Gear S] biktor_gj:
Based doesn't mean it's all the same ;) wifi and bluetooth module are different for example, and fuel gauge microcontroller too, to name a few. The BCM4334W bluetooth IC does have FM radio built in, but it won't work because there's no way to attach an antenna to it.

Regarding NFC, I can't say wether it has it or not. I didn't see an nfc antenna inside the watch when I disassembled it, though there's some support for nfc enabled kernel side. Don't get your hopes high...

Regarding editions and versions, I'm going all the way with cyanogenmod. There's a simple reason behind it: framework level support for telephony, biometric devices and that kind of stuff. Wear is not enough for this watch. My goal is to find some balance slimming down a bit cm12.1

I rather have bluetooth/wifi internet sharing, calling capabilities, mail accounts, and full support for play store directly than just have a crippled down watch (even if it looks nice). For that I already have my GWatch R and my Gear Neo. And given that we have Google's voice input in android too, we wouldn't be limited to that tiny little keyboard. My thumb is the size of half the screen!

Anyway, back on topic, if I get some time tomorrow I'll start a new thread for this. I also found the reason why the recovery won't show up:there's some compatibility issues between android's kernel framebuffer support and Tizen... Another fix to add to the list ;)
[Samsung Gear S] gingerdude:
As you're going to start a proper development thread, I'll spam this by saying that I love your threads, I refresh them constantly and love the organic growth of something that was never supposed to have life given life but someone with the skill and dedication to make it happen. You sir bring hope and happiness, God bless you.
[Samsung Gear S] gidi:
Totally agree master dev [MENTION=803006]biktor_gj[/MENTION]!

Android is the way to go with the Gear S.

Thanx for the frequent updates.
[Samsung Gear S] yujikaido79:
Yeah I check this thread daily. Can't wait to retire my motoactv for the gear s. Although it's been a great watch.
[Samsung Gear S] chiikko561:
Lol I always wanted that watch but was on the fence
[Samsung Gear S] ikenvape:
Yep! Just sold my Asus zenwatch today and ordered the Gear S!
[Samsung Gear S] andrew.mackew:
Good move mate! :D
[Samsung Gear S] crazyshakespeare13:
Is it just me or is every gear s user following this thread with baited breath? As a standalone device user, the possibility of a functioning device is too much. Keep up the hard work...can't wait to see what comes of this!
[Samsung Gear S] ikenvape:
Thanks man! Honestly, I haven't been this excited for a device in a long time. This week has been enlightening. There are so many people that show nothing but pride and love for the S. The tracking number is the F5 treatment :laugh:
[Samsung Gear S] blashrrt:
If full android gets to be fully functional for the Gear S would it matter which version of the watch one has?
[Samsung Gear S] ikenvape:
So far it seems Yes. Verizon and att varients may be locked.
[Samsung Gear S] chiikko561:
I'm fiendin', it's like crack in here...
[Samsung Gear S] biktor_gj:
Started a new thread, not much to see yet, but it was time for a fresh start ;)

http://xdaforums.com/gear-s/development/dev-gear-s-android-port-t3177740

Stupid windows update rebooted my machine while the VM was building Android... now I have to restart... aaaahhhh
[Samsung Gear S] Ranomez:
You might want to disable auto reboot after update in windows to avoid such cases, it can easily be done with the built in Group Policy Editor or a bit harder with RegEdit.
[Samsung Gear S] runningwarrior08:
Actually with new windows 10 updates they are bypassing group policy settings and forcing updates... A large amount of companies are pissed off but Microsoft is working on a fix they say.

Biktor:

I sold my gear S as I went away from my S6e but I will probably buy an unlocked version to help soon. I will browse through the code and apply my limited Android knowledge to help( use alot of lower level code like Verilog etc. ) No guarantees I will be able to help even a little but why not :)
[Samsung Gear S] Ranomez:
They bypass the group policy setting that allowed totally disabling updates so updates still download and prepare to install but the no auto reboot one works just fine, my laptop hasn't seen a reboot since I updated to windows 10 on the 29th, and it has been always on since (not even in sleep, hosting servers), in Settings->System Update I see some updates installed and it tells me to reboot but didn't have the time yet.
[Samsung Gear S] runningwarrior08:
Ah missed the key word reboot there. Thanks. :) Trying to hide the XDA'ing while at work and read too quickly :P
[Samsung Gear S] chiikko561:
Oh that's horrible... I don't let mine auto restart... it has to wait for me to say so... anyway thanks for dedication... I'll be switching threads now
[Samsung Gear S] Shum Channel:
Do developers no news. I'm disappointed :(
[Samsung Gear S] biktor_gj:
Well, instead of complaining, you could also help. We all have our lifes outside XDA and maybe we have other things to do with our time apart from working on this.

And as a side note, you should know that it's frustrating enough to be stuck for weeks trying to solve a problem, digging into thousands of lines of code, only to come back and see these kind of messages.

I might have spent more than 50 hours looking at kernel trees trying to find why the APR module gets an empty buffer or handle during the modem initialization after the image has been loaded and smem has been init. If you can do better, be my guest, I'll gladly receive whatever commit you can give, my github account is here:

Https://github.com/Biktorgj
[Samsung Gear S] gidi:
[MENTION=803006]biktor_gj[/MENTION] Please, my friend, do not allow such ignorrant comments to bother you. Most people cannot even imagine what you are trying to do and what you have so far accomplished.

Can you explain quantum physics to a 5 year olad?
[Samsung Gear S] Shum Channel:
biktor_gj, I apologize if you took it personally. I mean, I'm disappointed by the fact that Samsung have built strong protection of their hardware systems. It is sad that good hardware Gear S can not discover their true potential.
[Samsung Gear S] joexda75:
Hi all and many thans to you Biktor_gj.

I too am curious and interested in an android version so that it could be really a great standalone product.However i fear that we also lose the ability to use it as a device companion (no call forwarding or sync s-health data from the gear S to the phone

(Unless you manage some magic trick to make it work like the first android gear 1-and maybe you already dif :) ) but the ability to run most google apps natively could be worth the trade off.
[Samsung Gear S] violin.siva:
S health will work on mobile phones with the latest update henceforth there is no Necessary if me miss something health in gear s after flashing android.
[Samsung Gear S] blazinandroid1:
Only time will tell

Sent from my SM-N915V using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[Samsung Gear S] fig_jam_uk:
Have to agree the apps on the Gear S are mainly pointless, there's not even a Facebook app on the device (which would make it a little more usable), so far Tizen sucks big time. Time will tell though but i'm just wondering if Tizen is going to become one of those forgotten failed technologies that come and go. I hope I'm wrong because I've been overcharged for what is currently an over elaborate time piece. I do hope Android can be ported as the device will be awesome if it ever is :)
[Samsung Gear S] sefrcoko:
All wearables at this point in time are "overly elaborate timepieces" :) ... the Gear S is actually the most elaborate of them all right now.