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[Nexus 6  General] bullhonkie:
Anyone playing Monster Strike or Puzzle and Dragons notice framerate drops and lots of sluggish UI animations in general?

It's most noticeable in MS when browsing the monster box and fusing things to each other but even the in-game animations and effects when lots of explosions and lasers are going off really dumps the framerate hard (probably well into the single digits if I had to hazard a guess). PAD isn't quite as bad overall but similarly gets some terrible framerate drops when navigating through menus and the monster box.

My girlfriend's Moto X 2014 running Lollipop has no issues whatsoever with these games and the framerates are super smooth - best I've seen these games run in fact. Even my Moto X 2013 that I'm upgrading from was better than the Nexus 6 in this regard.

My only conclusion so far is that pushing 1440p is too much with the Adreno 420 for certain draw or render functions and that's where the framerate is consistently taking a nosedive. It doesn't appear to be a Lollipop issue as the Moto X 2014 with an Adreno 330 pushing 1080p is excellent in these same games. While Moto X 2013 with Adreno 320 pushing 720p is more than adequate with no framerate drops.

Really disappointed to see a flagship phone in 2014 having these types of issues. Everything else about the phone is great but mobile gaming is a big part of my phone experience and the two games I play most feel pretty badly affected. I can't help but feel we're sometimes losers in the spec war because I doubt I would've noticed much of a difference between 1080p or 1440p even at 6", but with almost twice as many pixels to drive it definitely isn't doing the GPU any favors.
[Nexus 6  General] MrDSL:
Not good news at all.. Of castle clash plays fine on other devices then I'm screwed. Now to find someone with another device on lollipop
[Nexus 6  General] Prophet968:
I recently tried Riptide GP2, and I had absolutely no issue running at the maximum possible settings for the game with a smooth framerate? All the other games, like Leo's Fortune (Another high-graphic'd game) also ran smooth without issue. This is using Sensei Kernel, but was the same on stock with Encyrption off.
[Nexus 6  General] tmuka:
Clash of clans seems to run fine for me. I do notice what seems like white noise coming from the speakers during some GPU activity. (With all game audio disabled). It seems like maybe there is crosstalk between the GPU and audio amplifier circuits. I didn't notice that on my HTC m7. Anybody else notice that with coc or other games?
[Nexus 6  General] fictionoid:
I have noticed this in XCOM enemy within. That game, btw, does not perform well on this phone and the latest update says it was updated for L. I don't how true that is but it is currently playable.
[Nexus 6  General] LargePig:
Worms 3 is very choppy for me, plays fine on my Nexus 4 and Nezus 7 (2012).

I am running stock but with encryption off.
[Nexus 6  General] Hand76:
Just made a thread about this. Just disappointed so many games don't work right or even start.

Someone said just wait a few weeks for fixes... More like wait months on months and hope some devs fix this. Cause most devs don't care and have already made there money if the game is a bit older and are in no hurry to fix things now

Gaming is a major part of where the Mobil platform is now, it's the reason I'm involved. So this is a bummer that i got a new $700 device and have to still use my nexus 5 to play most games
[Nexus 6  General] MrDSL:
I think at this point I need to decide if I'm going to keep this phone or not..

I need to check and see when my 14 days is up..

I shouldnt have to use my old LG Pro G to play my mobile games..
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
then talk to the developers about about updating their games, for lollipop and the nexus 6. the issues arent with the nexus 6, the issues are with the games/apps that need to be updated. fortunately for me, i dont use those crappy apps/games. every app or game i have installed runs great on the nexus 6. speaking of, modern combat 5 runs spectacularly on the nexus 6, and graphics are console quality.
[Nexus 6  General] CraigP17:
the issues are not with lollipop...they are with our Nexus 6 devices.

Friend playing Madden NFL right next to me on his HTC One M8 GPe running lollipop...smooth as butter. Stutters and lag that make it almost unplayable on my Nexus 6.
[Nexus 6  General] LargePig:
Yeah, it isn't Lollipop, all three of my Nexus devices are on Lollipop and only the N6 struggles with Worms 3. I have not tried many other things yet.
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
it cant just be updated for lollipop. it has to be updated to work properly with the nexus 6s cpu/gpu.
[Nexus 6  General] MrDSL:
oh this is bull crap..theres no special button to turn on in a game for it to play nice on the Nexus 6..

Considering other older phones on lollipop run these games just fine leads me to believe the issue IS with the Nexus 6 since its the ONLY phone on lollipop that cant run a freaking game my year old phone runs just fine.
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
special button? i didnt say anything about any special button, lol. you just said the answer yourself.. old games. these old games need to be updated for the n6 cpu/gpu, if not, then you will just have them how they are, old. again, every game i have installed on my n6 runs great on it. try modern combat 5, seriously. many phones cant run it very smooth, but on the n6 its very smooth. i also have beach buggy racing, ridge racer, and osmosis hd currently installed. all work great, and all have been updated for the n6
[Nexus 6  General] MrDSL:
you really think so? I mean not all my games are that old..Are there any other phones that run N6 hardware? I dont keep to up on hardware but it was my understanding the cpu/gpu in our N6 has been out for a bit but I could be wrong.

my special button comment wasnt directed at you just me being fustrated with my slow game playing phone!
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
unfortunately, much of any development in these "older" games has stopped, and wont be continued. by older, i dont mean 2-3 year old games. by older, i mean games that were released earlier this year. games from the larger companies that develop, usually get updated. games from smaller companies or individual developers, might not ever get updated.
[Nexus 6  General] MrDSL:
I hear what you're saying but I know developers don't code for all hardware in every phone...just seems odd even not optimized it can't run some games fairly well
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
now see, i see it as obvious. if its not optimized for the n6, i dont expect it to run at all. and if it does, itll probably be laggy as heck.
[Nexus 6  General] compuguy1088:
It also doesn't help that there is limited stock of the phone to begin with!
[Nexus 6  General] MrDSL:
Well ill say this..I get a new phone every year and this is the first time my new phone ran the games i was playing worse than the old one i had.

true story
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
i do too, i get a new nexus every year. past years, it hasnt been as bad. but there were a very few games that didnt run on the n5 as well, at first. then they got improved. but with the n6 just coming out, not really spread out yet, and with lollipop, it does seem a little bit worse than in the past. with some time, most issues with apps and games will be fixed.
[Nexus 6  General] tmuka:
Seems like Google should give out new hardware to devs first at I/O so they can get software/hardware issues sorted out :)
[Nexus 6  General] akellar:
It's also the first year Art has been the default and only option. Add to that the display that not even Google fully supports (there's code comments in aosp stating as much) there's likely to be some delay in getting up to speed.
[Nexus 6  General] MrDSL:
I'm using ART on my old phone though so that can't be the issue.
[Nexus 6  General] CraigP17:
Another game I cannot play on my N6. NBA Jam. :(
[Nexus 6  General] Xileforce:
The nexus 6 GPU is faster despite pushing more pixels so I must imagine its software related.
[Nexus 6  General] Hand76:
Could there be something going on hardware wise?

Most are reporting on other 5.0 devices that xcom enemy within is running fine for them. Yet on the nexus 6 it is plagued with graphical glitches. Seems to be mostly related to shadows/fog that make the game unpayable

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Also i am unencrypted and games still take longer to load then on my nexus 5. Why is this the case?
[Nexus 6  General] Xileforce:
Nexus 6 uses the snapdragon 805 Soc. Only the note 4 uses this soc ATM. So its really new. Not to mention its running lollipop and art. That would be my guess why it has issues because side by side graphics benchmarks on my nexus 6 and my note 3 shows the nexus 6 winning by quite a bit.
[Nexus 6  General] katamari201:
Can't you force games to play in 720p? It fits perfectly into a QHD screen doubled.
[Nexus 6  General] MrDSL:
So all I need to do then is wait till LP comes out for the Note 4 and if games run good on that then its time to bail.
[Nexus 6  General] bambam126:
what...i have no idea what everyone is talking about my coc and other games run very well

ive had no issues
[Nexus 6  General] Xileforce:
Guess so. Though currently the nexus 6 out benchmarks the note 4 in 3d graphics
[Nexus 6  General] bullhonkie:
Not that I'm aware of. If anyone knows of a way to force this I'd love to know so I can try and see if my issues are fillrate/memory bandwidth constrained.
[Nexus 6  General] In Desolation:
Let's take a look at this a different way. The issue is really with the developers. The preview build has been out since June and the knowledge of the transition from Dalvik to ART has been around even longer. I don't blame the smaller developers, but the bigger ones with larger bandwidth don't really have an excuse.
[Nexus 6  General] brizey:
This phone runs a current reference OS on reference hardware. And the OS preview was released about six months ago. And even this phone has been out for a month. And lots of things run perfectly fine. Stop blaming the phone.
[Nexus 6  General] iZack187:
Well, according to FutureMark, the Nexus 6 currently ranks #4 out of 100 in top android gaming devices.
[Nexus 6  General] rkennison:
It's the top snapdragon platform. You can't compare it to the Tegra K1 based tablets....
[Nexus 6  General] Elpatii:
No problems for me, all my game are very smooth, even CoC (th8, level 83).

Nexus 6 with Pure ROM, stock kernel, encrypted.
[Nexus 6  General] hanano17:
I haven't encountered an issue on mine with CoC, Erden arena and a cpl other games i've played so far. In fact they seem a lost snappier than my Z2.. I'm bone stock, no root or anything.
[Nexus 6  General] CraigP17:
Madden received an update recently and it removed all lag during game play. I guess it's not the nexus...
[Nexus 6  General] aznalan15:
Kingdom Rush had problems with Lollipop and the dev fixed them, so you have to let the dev know to update their part of the code.
[Nexus 6  General] Dagreek005:
I play Heroes Charge and there is massive lag on that game, I cant even play it on my Nexus 6. It wont load battles and when I click on characters or chests, the sound is delayed. Sucks because I have a 2 year old tablet with 4.4.4 and it runs flawlessly......but I dont carry that around with me everywhere (Its strictly a bathroom tablet lol)
[Nexus 6  General] daewond3r:
Kritika, Marvel Contest of Champions, and Slingshot Braves all running very smooth on my Nexus 6 (stock 5.0.2 with faux kernel). Only gripe is that it does get warm sometimes.
[Nexus 6  General] Cacker:
I have an old game that is not graphically intensive, Dungeon Raid. It ran flawlessly on my previous Nexus 5 with KitKat.

Now I have a Nexus 6 with Lollipop, all the animations are achingly slow, unplayable, the input is laggy as well, you have to long press the buttons to get them to register.

This has to be do something with the way games are programmed. When games are developed, timing is an important issue, because without consideration, a game would execute at maximum speed. This would not translate to a good user experience. My guess is that the mechanism that they used for getting animation timings correct is at fault. Older games that are not updated across newer hardware and major Android releases seem to be suffering.

It's definately not a hw issue or Lollipop issue, although it may be the way an API has changed in Android, or it just the way the game is coded.
[Nexus 6  General] mrdoug:
Found this out today after my updated to lollipop (htc one m7)... Very sad news indeed. It is a Great game, however it appears to be abandoned by the developer. We likely have zero chance of getting it updated. I'm going to send an email, nonetheless. You never know, I suppose. ☺
[Nexus 6  General] _LANTERN:
Maybe its your device? Im on CoC everyday and its super smooth. Never once noticed any lag or stutter. Also play other games like monument valley very smooth. Maybe a hardware issue?
[Nexus 6  General] lexus91:
Haven't tried COC, but crusader quest and final fantasy record keeper did stutter a bit. Played king of thieves and hungry shark evo, magic touch with no issue though.
[Nexus 6  General] Pecata:
I am playing Monument Valley as well and I have noticed a stutter when the camera is moving-if I look at the background while the camera is moving I notice the stutter...I am running 5.1 stock, rooted, un-encrypted.

I remember the phone having much better gaming performance with 5.0.1 so it may just be the latest update. With 5.1.1 around the corner I hope Google crushes all the issues.
[Nexus 6  General] dankhar:
Hmm, I tried CoC and Boom Beach and haven't had any lag before or after the 5.1 update. The only game that sometimes has a lag or stutter to it for me at least is Trivia Crack. Other than that all seems to be working good. And Trivia Crack was fine until their latest update. That's when my stutter started to occur.
[Nexus 6  General] karikian:
I have to say... I had some really slow games until before 5.1, now it's all good!
[Nexus 6  General] tr3mm0r:
Deus Ex: The Fall, My NBA 2k15, Asphalt 0 & 8, Dead Trigger 2. All work super-smooth. Only issue I have is with Solar Flux that runs but all I can get from it is a black screen :P

My device sports factory image 5.1 sideloaded, encrypted, non-rooted.
[Nexus 6  General] Deekayy:
Funny that you brought this up. I was trying to play crusaders quest again after taking a break. I can't even pass the loading screen.. Sent the dev a heads up and see what's going on. Totally not cool at all.
[Nexus 6  General] lyrical1278:
Its the price you pay if you want the latest and greatest. There's nothing wrong with the phone or lollipop. The devs of those games need to update their games for the Jeew 5.0 apis.

Same thing happens on Windows AND Apple. And who is to say the devs of those games will ACTUALLY update them.
[Nexus 6  General] torecdude:
I Played many games on my nexus before rooting and disabling force encryption. Every is working very smooth, new buyers of the nexus shouldn't worry about game performence. Its amazing for myself at least.
[Nexus 6  General] Smallsmx3:
Why is this thread still open? We had a similar thread right at launch and after tons of testing it was concluded that games need to be updated
[Nexus 6  General] 12MaNy:
No problem with games here.
[Nexus 6  General] bigant262:
I don't think its fair to say that devs need to update their games. I just got the GS6 and games run a lot smoother on this than they did on the N6. The N6 has slight lag on games like Threes and Piano Tiles.
[Nexus 6  General] Smallsmx3:
It's a different chip set. I would guess devs would update their software for a phone that will sell in the millions and not worry so much on a phone that is in the thousands
[Nexus 6  General] GuyInDogSuit:
I play all kinds of games on my Nexus 6, with little issues. I did have some lag/stuttering issues with Final Fantasy Record Keeper, particularly scrolling (same issues on my Shield Tablet). I fixed it with the force GPU rendering setting in the developer options, and it works with a lot of 2D games, too.

Go to Settings > About, and tap on "Build number" about seven/eight times til it says "You are now a developer!" Go back one screen and you'll see "Developer options," enter that. Now scroll down a good ways until you see "Force GPU rendering." This will force the GPU to handle drawing for 2D applications. Exit and play. The game should run a hell of a lot smoother now.

They really need to update this game. Only two updates since launch, and it's been months since 3.3.8. WTF.
[Nexus 6  General] GeneticJim:
I play games from candy crush to mortal combat. Also so racing games. I have yet to have one issue with lag or clipping.
[Nexus 6  General] Novakingwai:
zombie thread!
[Nexus 6  General] Mandelbrot.Benoit:
What a hilarious thread. Reading people *****ing about a single game that needed to be updated was sad. Every single update that I can remember since Froyo brought app compatibility problems. And people were sooo adamant it was the phone. And it was the phone because it was the only phone on L with that chipset.

CoC fans are pretty hard core though ;P
[Nexus 6  General] GuyInDogSuit:
How is it a zombie thread if someone posted in it less than two months ago and the Nexus 6 is still in widespread use?

I never got into Clash of Clans. Noooooo thank you.
[Nexus 6  General] Novakingwai:
Because the thread was started in November when the Nexus 1st released and this was an issue. It is now 8 months later and no longer an issue.
[Nexus 6  General] GuyInDogSuit:
As I stated, one of the games mentioned has issues still. I was posting a fix for it.
[Nexus 6  General] Android The Greek:
Vainglory FTW
[Nexus 6  General] GuyInDogSuit:
That quote is gold.
[Nexus 6  General] adrynalyne:
Yeah, it was a fun erm...discussion :p
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Randomacts:
Before I updated to 5.0 I used WiFi Tether Router and that allowed me to tether with my unlimited data and it would be reported as phone data instead of tether data.

Unfortunately ... Unless I just failed at rooting somehow?... My other root apps work fine so I doubt it is that...

I have emailed the dev and he is working on it (but it is a holiday so it most likely won't be fixed until next week and I need tethering when I am at my dorms because my internet is really really slow at my dorms)

Does this app still work for you guys.. or have another one that would work for this?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brushstroke:
There's a workaround I use that doesn't require an app. Well, it only requires one at first.

Download SQLite Editor from the Play Store, and navigate here:

/data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db

Select "global" and add a new entry to this called: "tether_dun_required" with a value of 0. Then go to your APN settings and change the APN type to either IPv4 or IPv4/IPv6. Reboot.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flex360:
i use pda net

usb tether

hides data well
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Randomacts:
That seems like it will be a good solution. I'll check it out later thanks. :D
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mike102871:
Yes this does work. I've done this for over a year on many devices
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CoronaDelux:
I copied this from another post on this site (sorry I can't give credit now b/c I didn't copy the actual link), but here are the non-root option where you can adb a command to enable tethering on t-mo.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nym27jrey:
I can also confirm that this does work. I use it for my home Internet connection all the time.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shogun656:
Thank you so much, I tried this and it worked like a charm:):):):):):):)
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] macoveibp:
This is what is in the meniu. And I am waiting for more than an hour.

WHAT SHOULD I DO?

Start Time: 8:37:38,28

*

* Dopod P800W Rom Upgrade to WM5 AKU3.0.1 PDAMobiz Edition v1.1.2 (PowerMap Vers

ion)

*

* Total process may take about 15-30 minutes depends on CPU speed.

*

Initializing..............*

UPGrade OS to WM5 AKU3.0.1 RuChonburi PDAMobiz Edition... DO NOT DISCONNECT UNTI

L PC Process Finish...

*

* Start Time:

8:38:35,14

*

* Upgrade OS: This process takes about 12-20 minutes depends on CPU speed

* Please wait...

*

* After 30 minutes if it hang, just press at reset

*

Copying D:\UPROM\itsutils.dll to WCE:\windows\itsutils.dll

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 f5 2b 02 03 30 02 07 a9 02 08 06 6f

CopyFileToTFFS(powermap.nba:0, 0, 03900000)
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] Adigital:
Calm down. Seems the process did not work. Now you will need your original rom and flash it back from bootloader mode.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] macoveibp:
how am i going to flash my original ROM?
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] macoveibp:
how?

How can i do this?
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] djsolid:
1. You connect you device to pc

2. Then you enter into bootloader in you device like this

"""""""

The bootloader is invoked by pressing down the Power and Voicedialer buttons simultaneously, and using the stylus at the same time to press the RESET button at the left side. Continue pressing the two buttons for a few seconds after pressing and releasing the reset button until the bootloader screen appears.

""""""

3. And then you run the .exe file , i mean the rom file... I think you can try any dopod's rom...

4. You are done

Here is a dopod's rom...
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] macoveibp:
OK, i'm in bootloader mode.

But from where do i run this exe file, because active sync doesn't see my pocket pc?
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] victoradjei:
Just connect device and click on the RUU file :p
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] macoveibp:
I used ART_HTCWWE_11240501_026790_WWE_Ship

An it is error[244] invalid model id
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] macoveibp:
I think i will suffer a PANIC ATTACK
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] macoveibp:
now i'm wondering. Is p3300 the same thing with Artemis?

I don't have the guide of the pocket pc or anything else.

All that i have is the pocket pc, made by HTC and the cables.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] macoveibp:
Please, somebody HELP.

Anybody?:mad:
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] tghobar:
Same old ****

Im not so sure if this is comforting news, but I did the exact same just now, and I have the exact same results. I am stuck on the same place as well.

Should we CID unlock the phone for it to work with other ROMs? or what. the activesync does not recognize the phone, and neither does any other roms.

Anyone?
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] Adigital:
I cannot say that for 100% but as long as you have the original ROM that came with your device it should be possible to recover. I used the T-Mobile UK shipped rom cos I have MDA Compact III and it went ok. The ID in the ROM mached the one in the device. I might be wrong but that's what I know.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] fraggar:
As you could read in the other thread, you're stuck now.

- CID unlocking your phone can't be done without a working phone.

- You can get back a working phone if you have your original rom only.

Please read the other thread and you will find the answers.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] tghobar:
fragger believe me I read so many threads already, but it is still confusing! I understand that for example only the original will work. Fine, where do I find my original?? There is a tmobile NL version on the ftp of this site, but when I unzipped it, it had no executable file, and all I had was about 20 files with wierd extensions. How do I use them?

I tried many of the other versions too, but because the activesync does not recognize the phone, none will work so far. I tried a lot of them already, including the original tmobileUK one, and I get the invalid ID crap. Have no idea what to do now! Maybe you would know of anything else I can try.