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[Moto Maxx General] guardian87:
* Is the Mexican Moto Maxx sim unlocked ie. not tied to a specific Mexican carrier?

* I had a look on the Mexican motorola website and there does not seem to be an option to buy the phone (only a way to sign up for updates). Any idea what is going on? Hear anything on when it will come back on sale?

* I also see a few Moto Maxx phones for sale on MercadoLibre, but for 8599; and based on what the pictures show, it includes headphones. The official motorola site lists the price as 8999, and as you have purchased one, it did not come with headphones. What's going on here? Do you think these are legitimate?

* After using it for some time now, how do you feel about it? Do you still prefer to use the Nexus 5? Have you had an opportunity to compare the Moto Maxx with the Nexus 6 or One Plus One?

Thank you! :)
[Moto Maxx General] mathab:
1.- Its sim unlocked :) (if bought form motorola website)

2.- Its been out of stock for almost 3 weeks, people who ordered after the 13th(day it launched) have not recieved it (I ordered on the 15th and still waiting...) Some people say its launching with some carriers on the second week of december,

3.- I would not trust that sales on Mercadolibre they all seem to be scam, theres no feedback for those sellers.

4.- Don't know.
[Moto Maxx General] Galaxo60:
I think [MENTION=4778188]mathab[/MENTION] has already answered most of the questions, but not the last one:

I had the Nexus 5 for almost a year, and I can notice the difference in performance and responsiveness; at this point, after using the Maxx, and using the Nexus 5 again, it seems that the Nexus 5 is a laggy device. One backdraw about the Maxx is the screen, still it seems that is burning my eyes because of the oversaturated colors, simply I'm not used to AMOLED screens, but for people that already used AMOLED screens it wouldn't make a difference. Don't get me wrong, the screen resolution is awesome, but I always had LCD screen devices.

Another thing I would say about the Maxx is Android version, I already was used to Lollipop, but I think that it will come eventually also to the Maxx.

About the Nexus 6 or the OPO, I still don't know, I didn't had neither of both devices, just the Nexus 5.

:)
[Moto Maxx General] respider:
Exact same feeling here... I had a nexus 5 as well and agree 100%. This phone is faster in every way, but I also prefer LCD screens (I'm getting used to amoled though)

I was used to Lollipop (using since first preview) but rolling back to Kitkat wasnt a big issue.

The only thing besides LCD that I prefer in nexus 5 is the feeling in hands. I think Nexus 5 is less slippery and just feels better, lighter, etc
[Moto Maxx General] vPro97:
Do any of you guys know if I can purchase on here in Denmark (from an international seller, of course)?
[Moto Maxx General] tnowakow:
Same here with a couple questions;

1. Does this work on Verizon so i could replace my droid turbo and get root

2. Where can i buy it from an international seller to ship to US?

Thanks!
[Moto Maxx General] danger2u:
i want to buy it too. someone could help me?? i will pay u some extra for this.
[Moto Maxx General] Galaxo60:
I think that [MENTION=1934858]mfractal[/MENTION] is helping people with this, you would have to ask if he can buy it and ship to you.

About Verizon, I think it will work with no problems, because they have the same bands, but still would be nice to ask because of the CDMA network.

;)
[Moto Maxx General] krabman:
I've had the 1+ and still have a Find 7 both of which had the same perceived performance once the roms got rolling. This phone feels (slightly) more potent although the difference is not great. This isn't an apples to apples comparison because the Find 7 is well tuned up and at the top of its game where my Maxx has root only and I've barely begun to experiment with its performance. I gave my N5 away previously so I cant make any direct comparison to it.

Things I've figured out so far is that compared to that device I like double tap to wake much better than the setup on this device. Starting at 801c there was hardware support for low level screen off events and unlike the N5 the Find 7 did not show much drain using double tap and while I would guess it probably uses a little more battery than what the Maxx does with its scheme I don't like the fact that I cant completely remove the lock screen without being required to go to a hardware button. In other words with a double tap I'm off and running when at home, with this setup I have to wave over the screen, the slide down even with no screen saver set at all which is how I like it. I use a widget called no lock which I tap when I'm out to automatically enable a lock screen for when I'm out. This is a preference thing but for me a lot of my use is at home where for now there is an extra step to access my phone.

Another thing I notice is the battery life is better than the Find 7, even on the day the phone arrived where I installed everything and did all the adjustments and general fondling one does with a new phone I still made it to the evening with 30% on the clock which is pretty good considering the usage. Right now I'm ending the days in the upper 40% range which wouldn't match the advertised spec of 48 on a charge but is still the best I've encountered. I have read the batt problem/unexpectedly weak batt threads but I am not encountering that issue.

On size and comfort in hand... I'm coming from a bigger phone and wanted to downsize. I find that around the 5" mark I can do everything I do with a phone without restriction and getting bigger no longer is worth the tradeoff that is made with a larger phone to me. With that said I find the size pleasing and the phone to be well shaped for handling but on the downside the outer ring is a little slippery in hand as others mentioned. I've actually been debating a coating to rubberize it because I hate to cover up the ballistic nylon but I think in the long run I'm going to drop this thing if I don't do something.
[Moto Maxx General] swboland:
Obviously noone has a definite answer to this yet as noone has tried to use a Moto Maxx on Verizon's network. But I would say that it almost definitely will NOT work.

Just because the Moto Maxx supports the same bands that Verizon uses, does not mean that they will allow the device to use their network. Verizon carries the Droid Turbo as an exclusive device, this is the reason the Moto Maxx is not available in the US and why Motorola has made it so difficult for people in the US to get one.
[Moto Maxx General] Galaxo60:
This make sense in a way, but on the other hand, Verizon can't limit which phones are going to use on its network as long as you pay the service; Verizon's business is the phone service, not selling the phones themselves.

Would really interesting to know the answer to this...

:confused:
[Moto Maxx General] huleeyo:
Hi [MENTION=4658859]Galaxo60[/MENTION], thanks for your answers.

I'm from Mexico and I will buy Maxx or Nexus 6 in a couple of days; I'm undecided.

Could you help me with this testing "digital image stabilization" recording a video walking or maybe running?

This is one of the few differences with Nexus 6 (optical image stabilization).

Thanks on advance.
[Moto Maxx General] gqskrub:
There is no Verizon version of the Nexus 6 but yet it is working on their network. Seem like supporting bands = supported?
[Moto Maxx General] Galaxo60:
I was in the same position, but I choose the Maxx because of the battery life. Nexus 6 comes with Lollipop and still has a mediocre battery; besides this, the phone is too big for me, I can have a phone with 5.5" at most, and the screen, size and weight in the Maxx are just perfect for me.

About the OIS, I found a video when you can see how is it, it seems a little shaky, but that's because Maxx odesn't have OIS. For me it's not a big problem, I don't tend to record videos, and when I do, I just leave the phone somewhere and record.

The video is the next one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zjnOhvC0x0

I made also another video about high enviroments, to see if the mic performs good at high volumes, the video is here:

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/help/mic-test-loud-environment-t2934741

Hope it helps!

:cyclops:
[Moto Maxx General] swboland:
They do limit which phones use their networks, though. That's why we're in this situation. And Verizon's business is BOTH device sales and service. They made the Droid Turbo the exclusive variant for the entire United States. If that doesn't say enough to people about how determined Verizon is to not only control their network but to compete with other networks, I don't know what else I can say to help them understand. Verizon's lock on the Turbo/Maxx market in America means not only can people not get the device from any company BUT Verizon, but also that the phone can not be used on any other network in the US without first being purchased AND activated on Verizon.

As I said, I don't know for sure and I don't think anyone does at this point, but I would be really surprised if Motorola hasn't supplied Verizon with the IDs of every Moto Maxx, so that they can be blocked from being activated on their network.

Yes, for the Nexus 6. But the Turbo/Maxx isn't the Nexus 6, in that it isn't a Stock Android, Google-owned, open carrier device. Why do you think that Motorola would just decide to make the Moto Maxx unavailable to the United States when the Moto X is so successful as a multi-carrier device? It's because Verizon made them. Verizon does not want people leaving their network. If the Turbo was available on any other network by any simple means, it would probably cost bigV a lot of customers, especially with carriers paying early termination fees now. Verizon's lock on the Turbo in America means that all of us who are loyal to the Droid brand and have been drooling over this device for months are stuck choosing Verizon if we want it NOW.

Besides that, the only bands which the Moto Maxx supports that it could use on Verizon's network are LTE, the Moto Maxx's voice data is GSM and therefore would not work on Verizon's CDMA network. Once, VoLTE is enabled it is possible this may work. However, as I say above, I would be very surprised if Verizon hasn't already blocked the ID of every Moto Maxx.

It's going to take some waiting but I'm hopeful that a remailer will pop up eventually that will help people get a Moto Maxx from somewhere that is currently selling them. Or somehow someone will find a way to root the Turbo.

But a Moto Maxx working on Verizon...I'm not so hopeful.
[Moto Maxx General] huleeyo:
Thank you so much! I appreciate it.

EDIT: Check this video for more information of image stabilization on Moto Maxx (Droid Turbo):

http://youtu.be/AGW9RHA4wzQ
[Moto Maxx General] andresgvc:
The hardware button are Ok.

In my opinion, the hardware buttons are ok. Are responsive and I like the nanoSIM inside de volume button very clever solution. The buttons are much better than the buttons in the OpO.
[Moto Maxx General] guivalli:
Someone can upload a xt1225 rom for me?

i m in panic now.
[Moto Maxx General] Firebat2468:
I would absolutely love to get the Moto Maxx for my ATT account... But i am having the hardest time getting the phone :(

Any advice? I need this version as is has lte band 17.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Moto Maxx has bands 2,3,4,17. I'm buying it to put on AT&T.

Was it you or someone else who bought a Droid Turbo to use on AT&T? If you, why?
[Moto Maxx General] Firebat2468:
I'm trying to do the same thing I won't buy the turbo I need the Maxx for ATT. I just can't seem to find it anywhere to order. Can you assist?
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
There's one on eBay from Puerto Rico for $999. But I'm trying Mexico Mercado Libre with escrow account. (Like Mexico EBay). I wired $650 (9000 Mexican pesos), which is supposed to include FedEx shipping with tracking number. We'll see. Transfer should be complete tomorrow. If I don't get the phone sent to me, I've only lost the bank transfer fee, not the purchase price.

Escrow money won't be released until I get the phone and am happy.

Found out afterwards the seller would take PayPal, but the Mercado Libre website did not list that. If it works for me, I'll PM you the seller's details.
[Moto Maxx General] Firebat2468:
PayPal would be great. Even from like Amazon is fine too. As long as it's the 64 gig one I'm happy! Thanks very much let me know... Especially at 650 price that's perfect. I would sell my note 4 to make money back. Sick of Samsung slowdown as I call it.
[Moto Maxx General] mathab:
Sound too good to be true, thats the price of the phone ordered directly from motorola, considering it was 8000 on "El Buen Fin" he would be only getting 1000, but you have to subtract shipping...

Hope its not a scam but it really sounds like one.

Hopefully in 2 or 3 weeks stock will normalize here in Mexico and all you guys be able to get one too :)
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
I had also heard 2nd week of December the Mexican carriers would be start selling Moto Maxx (as Claro already is in Puerto Rico). So, entirely possible this guy got his hands on some supply from there, at wholesale price. That he didn't order from the Motorola website and re-sell, but that he either works for a carrier or has connection.

I sent the money to Mercado Libre bank account in escrow account (Mercadopago). I assume they notify him when the wire transfer is complete. Then he ships the merchandise. Then I release the money for him from the escrow account. That's the way I understand it works. Here's the description of how the mechanism works:

http://www.travelsur.net/forum/messages/199/2455.html

So, I can't see how a scam would benefit him in any way. He doesn't get any money until I get my merchandise. Yes, I had to pay my bank an a additional transfer fee ($35) and I don't get that back, but I would get the rest of my money (9000 pesos) back. Mercado Libre would wire the money back to my bank, from the Mexican bank account.
[Moto Maxx General] Galaxo60:
Yes, it works like that. Mercado Libre is keeping the money until you get the product and you were happy with it, then you confirm it and release the payment. There is no way it is a scam if you get this form of payment.

Just be warned when vendor don't want to accept Mercado Pago.

:fingers-crossed:
[Moto Maxx General] Galaxo60:
I didn't try the OPO, but I'm getting used to the Maxx's buttons.

:cyclops:
[Moto Maxx General] mathab:
Just wanted to say my moto maxx has finally been shipped, (ordered on nov 15th) so anyone that had estimated delivery of today may be in the same situation as me :)

Estimated delivery date from motorola is next monday, fedex says friday! It all depends on customs I think.
[Moto Maxx General] XuCrUtZ:
I bought the Moto Maxx last black friday, my last phone was the Razr Maxx...

It's not fair compare it with my old phone, but I loved it!
[Moto Maxx General] y2jdmbfan:
Has anyone compared this directly to a Nexus 6? What are your thoughts?
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Wired the money last Friday. Mercado Libre can't find it. Argh. They demanded proof. I emailed them copies of the wire transfer to their Banamex bank account. Wells Fargo says it went through. Is Mercado Libre normally this incompetent?
[Moto Maxx General] Galaxo60:
Hope it won't take so long in customs, maybe Motorola has make an arrangement with mexican customs to pass the phones quickly.

:)

It's just the bigger version of the Moto X, but has the same specs of the Maxx.

:cowboy:

Maybe is because you are not using a mexican credit card, because Mercado Pago was made to use it in Mexico mainly.

:rolleyes:
[Moto Maxx General] assasin34:
what about camera?shutter speed seems so slow.i think something wrong with camera software.
[Moto Maxx General] Galaxo60:
I hope camera software gets updated and improved really soon or with Lollipop update, because it lacks of many things and quality. As far as I know, the camera sensor is the same as in the Xperia Z3, so theoretically we should be able to take really nice pictures.

It happened with the Nexus 5 also, it was kind of mediocre camera, and then Google updated it and it was pretty decent.

:fingers-crossed:
[Moto Maxx General] assasin34:
İ was going to purchase nexus6 or motox2014 bit i have changed my mind because of nexus6' giant size and x2014's poor battery life.i think droid turbo will be better choice for me.
[Moto Maxx General] Galaxo60:
Exactly my same thoughts...

:good:
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
I'm not using credit card. I wired money for their mercado pago escrow account with Banamex. Since the seller has no "reputation" you can't use credit card for the sale at all, Mexican or not. You have to deposit money into the escrow account. I followed their instructions specifically and the Banamex account number I wired to is what they gave me.

My bank says the money went to their account.

Of the 3 emails I've sent Mercado Libre, they have answered only one. None since I sent them the proof they demanded. They have been utterly silent for 24 hours while they have my money in their bank account.

I should have just used PayPal, but at the time I didn't know the seller took PayPal since Mercado Libre doesn't take it. In private conversation after the fact, he told me he also took PayPal. If I get my money back, I'm using that. :rolleyes:
[Moto Maxx General] Galaxo60:
Mercado Libre takes several days to answer, it is a ****ty process, but it is like that. The few problems I have had with them, they answered like 2-3 days after I wrote to them. It's not the easiest way, but every time I got my problems resolved, patience is needed.

:silly:
[Moto Maxx General] Galaxo60:
Just a little update for you guys:

It seems that the Turbo Charger in Europe. works sometimes and sometimes not.

I don't know if it is because of the different connectors and voltages, but half of time I connect the charger, it shows me the "Turbo charger detected" message.

Besides this, it seems that I can't make the LTE to work, or this is what I think, because it still shows the "H+" in the screen as you can see, but the download and upload speed are nice.

I'm on Vodafone.

:cyclops:
[Moto Maxx General] krabman:
That is faster than LTE here so I'd have a hard time getting upset over it. I'm not sure how you are charging but with my Find 7 when I'm across the pond I usually transform my power to 120 and then plug the charger into that rather than let the wart handle it directly from the 240 with an adaptor, seems to be more reliable about getting turbo speeds that way.
[Moto Maxx General] Galaxo60:
Faster doesn't mean that is better, neither I'm complaining about it, but I would like to test real LTE speed.

About the charging, I'm using an adapter who supposedly does this, but still it fails sometimes I guess.

:confused:
[Moto Maxx General] krabman:
I hadn't thought you were complaining and hadn't meant to imply it. Let me phrase it a little better, I would be thrilled with those speeds and usually am just that when I'm out of my home area and in the land of faster data. I'm not understanding the faster part you first spoke of?

You're using an adapter or a transformer? What I find Galaxo is that in urban areas, especially heavily industrialized areas, the power can be a little jumpy on cycles and or voltage and in these situations two transformers gives you a little more cushion to stay on step. Some areas also just have better power. Out in Russia for instance I was never quite sure what was going to happen when I plugged in. Regardless the turbo charging seems to want nice solid even power or it drops into standard charge, I don't know why. Having two transformers between you and it can sometimes give better results in those situations.
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Thank you. That helps. At least I know their non-help at this stage is normal, and they will eventually reply. :D
[Moto Maxx General] arcaneck:
damn it, the phone is in customs and like i can see in the gut at beggining of the thread, this will take at least three days.

what else we can do, any ideas?:crying:
[Moto Maxx General] andresgvc:
Wait...
[Moto Maxx General] mathab:
Last 3 events have been really weird, it makes me think import is being processed before it even arrives to México. What do you think? Is it even possible?

EDIT:

So it happened again new pic attached.
[Moto Maxx General] andresgvc:
Obviously, the events had an discrepancy in the time. Don't worry...the custom delays are OK. I'm think FedEx employees don't know to much about the Motorolas process of global trade.
[Moto Maxx General] mathab:
I know they are normal, but if its as I say maybe we could get our phones sooner? (maybe before next week)
[Moto Maxx General] Galaxo60:
Since the phone arrived to customs, I was calling everyday to push them up and try to get the phone as quickly as possible. Obviously, I don't know if this made any difference, but there was some people who also ordered the phone the same day as me and still they didn't get theirs.

:cool:
[Moto Maxx General] DiamondJay20:
nice, but would you have it in 2880x2560 by any chance? Sometimes when I've tried to upload wallpapers here, the size gets shrunk, so IDK if that happened to you on this one. Thanks!
[Moto Maxx General] DiamondJay20:
you wouldn't happen to have it in 2880x2560?
[Moto Maxx General] ImpheOtus:
Sorry for the delay.

You're right, it got resized.

Here's the original size:

Moto Maxx's default wallpaper
[Moto Maxx General] arcaneck:
I have a question, for any of you is working 4k resolution I'm youtube? Because in my phone is just working 720p at tops
[Moto Maxx General] mathab:
I read somewhere thats Youtube's app problem, older version do work @4k
[Moto Maxx General] Galaxo60:
I just tested YouTube and the problem is still there, the cap is at 720p.

I'm testing the new Material Design version.

;)
[Moto Maxx General] chris2507:
Hey you guys moto maxx is available again in moto mexico. It's in promotion. 7,999 ($534 dlls) dont let it go this time, im ordering mine. Free shipping.
[Moto Maxx General] cushcalc:
pdadb.net lists the device as having a micro-SDHC slot. I'm guessing that's incorrect, because it also says the Droid Turbo has one. But would be great if it does.
[Moto Maxx General] ImpheOtus:
Nope, Moto Maxx doesn't have micro-SD slot :cowboy:
[Moto Maxx General] danger2u:
can u try to flash the boot animation from Droid turbo Verizon to ur Maxx to see if works??

i really like it and i want to know if it s possible

if u need it i will upload it
[Moto Maxx General] Galaxo60:
That's correct, and that's why Motorola made such a large internal memory on it.

:p

I think it won't be a problem at all, the devices are practically the same in terms of screen, but I don't have my device rooted nor I plan to change it some way right now, I'm just fine as it is in stock.

:silly:
[Moto Maxx General] y2jdmbfan:
So how bad is the camera on this? Is the shutter lag very bad? Trying to decide if I should pull the trigger on this versus the Nexus 6 or Moto X 2014...I didn't use my Cyber Monday Moto X coupon, because I was 100% sure on my decision. Probably just should have ordered the Moto X and returned if I decided against it. I have a 32GB Nexus 6 right now, but it is going back today because it has a few issues and I am worried about it only being 32GB, preferred a 64GB White Version...
[Moto Maxx General] krabman:
Compared to the x14 it's slightly better, compared to most cameras I have had recently it's worse. It helps to set hdr to off and turn on as needed. Other fixes reported here have made no difference I can discern. IMO if camera performance is very important a person might want to sit the fence a little longer and see what lollipop brings. Right now even for someone like me that isn't a critical user the camera is very inconsistent.
[Moto Maxx General] y2jdmbfan:
What is the x14?
[Moto Maxx General] krabman:
Moto X 2014
[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
They should have included hardware rear camera OIS like on the Nexus 5 and Nexus 6.
[Moto Maxx General] y2jdmbfan:
Do any of you that own the Maxx see the Jelly like scrolling issue that the Droid Turbo has?

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/general/jelly-scrolling-t2946575
[Moto Maxx General] mathab:
I can see it :(