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[X 2014 General] xFuGiToiDx:
I have the at&t branded moto x 2014 xt1097. I do not live in the US so I had to buy an unlock code online to unlock it so I can use to with my local carrier (Docomo Pacific). I had it unlocked while on 4.4.4 KitKat and took the ota update lollipop and it still works flawlessly. I heard that using a T-Mobile Sim card has issues when on lollipop. They need to change the APN settings or something.
[X 2014 General] vladmechkarov:
That's a good report. Anyone else here using unlocked ATT Moto with another provider, different than T-Mobile? Same issue, or no problem?
[X 2014 General] jphilippon:
Still wrong. It's ATTs version of lollipop made specifically for the 1097. They don't owe you anything to make it work on TMobile. Neither does Moto.

Just because it can work doesn't mean they have to support you.
[X 2014 General] kejar31:
I believe phones sold by carriers have to be carrier unlockable by law.. So I would say.. Yes they do have to support you
[X 2014 General] vladmechkarov:
Nobody said the warranty or the support will be voided if the phone is unlocked, so sure, they should support you. And I mean Moto, not the carrier
[X 2014 General] jphilippon:
And it is unlocked. And it works with HSPA.

Take a Verizon phone that supports a few GSM bands and try and tell Verizon or the manufacturer it should work with any network. See how that goes.
[X 2014 General] kejar31:
But this particular phone supports the LTE bands on T-Mobile... Lollipop broke that support..

Trying to use a CDMA device from VZW on a GSM network is a completely different affair.

Motorola should an will support this issue
[X 2014 General] jphilippon:
If you wanted full support you should have bought the right model.

I doubt Motorola will do anything more than maybe fixing it in 5.1.
[X 2014 General] kejar31:
I don't personally have this particular issue as I am using my phone on AT&T.. But as someone who may want to unlock and sell my phone, I have interest in making sure its fixed.. And you should too.. IMHO.. Have a good night man
[X 2014 General] o0BlacknesS0o:
Has anyone on At&t tried this?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=59268862
[X 2014 General] Red_81:
It won't work for you. You still have to get your unlock token and input it on the moto website. This just puts the fastboot commands into a gui.
[X 2014 General] o0BlacknesS0o:
In the directions in the main thread, it talks about getting the token ID

6. All Others

- Click the button labeled Get Token ID in the Unlock Bootloader box. This will reboot your device into bootloader, retrieve your Token ID, and open a text file that contains your Token ID and further instructions.
[X 2014 General] Red_81:
And since you have an ATT device, that token will do you no good. You would input it on the Motorola website and the website will tell you your bootloader cannot be unlocked.
[X 2014 General] txaggies07:
What about sunshine? Will that unlock the AT&T boot loader?
[X 2014 General] Casyis:
I doubt it. Last I checked the only 5.0 devices it supports are HTC models and no official support for the 2nd Gen Moto X. But if it were to work, you'd likely have to be running 4.4.2-4.4.4.
[X 2014 General] boostjunki3:
Unsuccessfully tried Sunshine on my XT1097 yesterday. We have a possible hope of root with MOFOROOT, which is supposed to be coming soon. As far as unlocking the boot loader, unfortunately, I can't see that happening anytime soon, if ever...these are locked down like Fort Knox. Next time, I'll be sure to get the Developer Edition.
[X 2014 General] xFuGiToiDx:
Did you at least get a refund from sunshine? I heard moforoot is also $20, and the developer only mentioned its coming to the Verizon variant of the moto x 2014.
[X 2014 General] boostjunki3:
Didn't need to pay for sunshine, they let you try it for free and I believe you only pay if your phone is unlockable. Also, although moforoot is for Verizon, I'd imagine that there would be a forthcoming version for ATT as well.
[X 2014 General] bondlolo:
I read in a thread that moforoot need a pre-rooted IMG to obtain the root privileges. Will that be possible in the xt1097 variant?
[X 2014 General] mistermartian:
Any word on a soak test for this variant?
[X 2014 General] bondlolo:
Maybe the soak test will start when the 5.1 or 5.1.1 update became Official on the Pure Edition..
[X 2014 General] bondlolo:
Well at least the release notes are out. Hope the update don't take too long. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/105249
[X 2014 General] dpw2atox:
Fingers crossed the soak starts soon......some days my X has great battery life while others it barely even makes it 10 hrs. The main only thing I can find killing my battery is play services but I figure it's got something to do with some bugs in ART as I used to have similar bugs on 4.4.4. Hopefully 5.1 ends up being what 5.0 should have been.
[X 2014 General] Secretcow:
Its going to fix the apn bug!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll be able to use tmobile lte!!!! Yasssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!
[X 2014 General] ogcjm4:
T-mobile issue with unlocked xt1097 with lollipop

Is this confirmed to be the issue that's causing all the problems with unlocked xt1097's? I noticed default apn bug being listed as a bug to be fixed but wasn't sure if that was what got broken from KK to lollipop that jacked everything up. I really hope it is.
[X 2014 General] fiffan86:
At least those people can unlock their xt1097, I've tried multiple unlocking sites and it was rejected. Att's website says my imei isn't found, and their customer service is worthless.
[X 2014 General] bondlolo:
Anyone receiving invitations to a soak test?
[X 2014 General] GrantB13:
If I told you, Motorola would have to kill me.
[X 2014 General] jphilippon:
I may or may not have received an email from Motorola, or anyone.
[X 2014 General] bondlolo:
Hope it comes soon!
[X 2014 General] jphilippon:
That was the fastest quote I've ever seen. You got my pre-edit post. Lol. :x
[X 2014 General] bondlolo:
Lol! Sorry then xD
[X 2014 General] mistermartian:
The invites have gone out so I imagine we'll get the soak this week.
[X 2014 General] Prash8429:
I got my invite today and all it says is "We hope to have to software out to you soon"
[X 2014 General] xFuGiToiDx:
It could take a week for it to be pushed after receiving the email. That was the case for 5.0.2 soak
[X 2014 General] jphilippon:
Got it!
[X 2014 General] mistermartian:
I just got it not even an hour ago! I hope it comes your way sooooooon!
[X 2014 General] Prash8429:
They released it a while back. I updated mine. The phone is noticeably snappier and so far no major bugs.
[X 2014 General] xFuGiToiDx:
The dreaded signal icon on the top right is still not updated to the solid one -.-
[X 2014 General] MisterEdF:
What do you have to do to get soaked? :p
[X 2014 General] AGISCI:
You have to flash something ;)
[X 2014 General] midnightdevil66:
Got my ota update last night, and it seems to have fixed my battery drain, at least for now.

Sent from my XT1097
[X 2014 General] ogcjm4:
5.1 update and non ATT SIM

Anyone get the update and using a non AT&T SIM? Looking to see whether LTE band issue that went wonky with 5.0.2 update is fixed with 5.1 update. Fingers crossed. I'm particularly interested in T-Mobile SIM's. Thanks everyone!
[X 2014 General] vladmechkarov:
That's what I'm waiting for too. Kinda got used to slower 3g network and that annoys me more...
[X 2014 General] vladmechkarov:
I can confirm that unlocked phones working on tmo network, do get LTE speeds after official update to 5.1

Erase all of the added apns(press back to default) and select T-mobile US 260 LTE.

Reception is not great though, at least for me.
[X 2014 General] jdkadius:
Yasss, got the update last night and it definitely feels more responsive. Well see how battery life holds up over the course of the next couple of days.
[X 2014 General] MisterEdF:
Evidently not. Never got invited to a soaking or even a light spray from a hose but I just got notified of an update to 5.1 (XT1097) and am in the process of downloading it now.
[X 2014 General] bondlolo:
Does anyone notice a new bootamimation?
[X 2014 General] marbill:
Noticed high Google Play Service battery drain since OTA updated to 5.1 (7%).

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[X 2014 General] jdkadius:
After a few days, I can't really tell a difference in battery life. It feels like it lasts about the same as before the update.

As for the user experience, it's much improved. My Moto X used to lag more than I liked and bringing up the recent apps menu used to take almost a second to bring up. It's all super snappy now!
[X 2014 General] gammite:
if i receive a bunch of mms throughout the day it taxes my battery to no end before and after the update.
[X 2014 General] vladmechkarov:
Battery is worse now...
[X 2014 General] ogcjm4:
SIM unlocked with T-Mobile sim card update.

Looks like they fixed the apn issues that caused all the issues with unlocked 1097's. Thank goodness.
[X 2014 General] midnightdevil66:
Did you do a factory reset? That helped me big time.
[X 2014 General] vladmechkarov:
I've never managed to back up all the data successfully on my previous devices, so I prefer not to reset for no obvious reason.

Does it really help with the battery?
[X 2014 General] midnightdevil66:
Yes it did.
[X 2014 General] rrossilva:
Just one word. disappointed.

I will think 10 times before buying a new moto+att in the future.

Even samsung is pushing lollipop.

TO AT&T: If you dont want to update our devices quickly, please, allow us to unlock our phones. Thanks.
[X 2014 General] dpw2atox:
If you want the updates without having to wait on carrier approval then get the Pure Edition, that was kinda the purpose of it. I also read a lot that the initial 5.0 build on the Pure Edition was quite buggy with battery drains, bluetooth issues and other bugs, in fact there's a whole thread called lollipop bugs and that was just updated to a much more stable build 3? 4? days ago. We should expect to see that updated build on the AT&T version any day now. I wouldn't say it's fair to get upset unless it's January 2015 and we are still waiting.

As for Samsung updating their phones, it was in poland i belive that the update was pushed out right? Yea 5.0.1 was pushed out in the US but for the GPE editions, that's basically the same thing as a Moto Pure Edition and Moto beat Samsung by what 3? 4? weeks? That's a baseless complaint of comparing apples to oranges.

In other worse? Chill out, it'll be here soon. I'd rather get it a little later but have it rock stable than deal with tons of bugs.
[X 2014 General] iamlilysdad:
Is there a way to convert the AT&T version to a Pure Edition? I've done some looking and haven't found anything. Definitely possible I'm not looking in the right places, though.

Thanks
[X 2014 General] cam30era:
Unfortunately no. Not with the locked bootloader.
[X 2014 General] ps3kev:
sounds like we might not be getting it until january
[X 2014 General] Endoran:
Source?
[X 2014 General] hector12t:
I just want root... Sigh
[X 2014 General] dpw2atox:
So any news or updates on when the ATT xt1097 will get 5.0? I saw that there are some even new builds floating around (22.21.17) and it makes me wonder if AT&T decided that they want this one instead?
[X 2014 General] gammite:
i have a nexus 7 2013 that hasn't seen the update either. so two devices that are supposed to receive quick updates have not for me.
[X 2014 General] ijotech:
Estamos jodidos con att
[X 2014 General] 66racer:
As much as I am anxious for the update (like checking 3 times a day); If ATT intentionally waited for a 100% stable 5.0 build I can appreciate that. Im sure that at least 80% of the moto x 2014 owners are just normal consumers. Most of the owners are not crack flashers or anything.

That said, I checked out a nexus 6 again on my lunch break and am so happy I didn't wait for it, its a NICE phone but the only thing I wish I had that the n6 has is lollipop.
[X 2014 General] mistermartian:
Time goes by so slowly for those who wait.

In the meantime, if they skip the 5.0 for the XT1097 (AT&T) and go straight to 5.0.1, I'm hoping they at least update the relevant drivers for API 2 support.
[X 2014 General] dpw2atox:
From what I've read, 22.21.11 has the same changes as 5.0.1. I believe att is going to push out 22.21.17 which is the cause of the delay.
[X 2014 General] ps3kev:
I'm not getting my hopes up on it.. My guess is it wont happen before 2015
[X 2014 General] ijotech:
It is really frustrating with att at this time
[X 2014 General] Jercote:
telus

Dear ATT Moto Xers, as an xt1097 owner on Telus network, i feel your pain. Hope you guys are keeping att's complaint department busy.
[X 2014 General] hwlester:
After dealing with Moto/AT&T updates on the original Atrix and the Atrix HD where the updates were 6 months or a year behind Google's release (or got canceled entirely), early next year would be speedy in comparison. :)
[X 2014 General] mustafu:
Yeah, and in the case of Atrix HD, still no 4.4 for that though Moto said it'd be updated :/ Glad I didn't wait around. I'm sure it was ATT's doing
[X 2014 General] hwlester:
Exactly. They promised KitKat, but it never got updated past Jellybean. I was really wanting KitKat on the Atrix HD so I could get lock screen widgets and expand notifications with one finger (available in a later Jellybean release than the AT&T one), plus to fix the bugs they introduced with the Circle Widget and desk dock weather/location not updating as well as battery consumption. :( The only additional update we got was a fix for the OpenSSL vulnerability. :(
[X 2014 General] Endoran:
If it doesn't come this week, I bet it won't be until January.
[X 2014 General] jphilippon:
If it doesn't come this week, I bet it will come next week!

:sly:
[X 2014 General] ps3kev:
ive been hearing att is a pain and its going to be january
[X 2014 General] dpw2atox:
I remember reading with the 2013 moto x that att was very timely with the update and even beat Verizon for one or two of the ota updates. I'm quite surprised that it's been this long with no update in sight. Hopefully the update we do get is rock stable.
[X 2014 General] kdwolf85:
I know it hasn't been that long since 5.0 was released, but after this I've decided to never again buy a carrier branded/BL locked device. Nothing but pure/Dev editions or Nexus models from here on out. I didn't get the Nexus 6 because I felt it would be too large coming from the 2013 Moto X and at the time I didn't have the money for the Nexus 5 nor did I want last year's model.
[X 2014 General] rjayflo:
There is talk over on the AHD board that Moto already released the KK update to AT&T...now whether if its pushed out is up to AT&T. I'm also an AHD owner and would love to get the official uodate
[X 2014 General] jinsoku3g:
We don't want KK lol we want L
[X 2014 General] Endoran:
I think he's talking about the atrix HD. Someone else mentioned it has an example of at&t dropping the ball on updates.
[X 2014 General] apvikes28:
Agreed. The only problem for me, not sure what region or country your in, but in the states on att non of the pure editions seem to work well with the LTE, or are missing one of the bands that make it work well.
[X 2014 General] Endoran:
I thought Motorola added support for the missing bands in the 5.0 release? Over on the moto forums I got that impression.
[X 2014 General] apvikes28:
Oh man. Wish I would have known. I just ordered mine through moto maker as att variant. I'm still within my time frame to return/exchange. Might see if I would be allowed to exchange for pure.
[X 2014 General] kdwolf85:
I'm in the states and on AT&T as well. I'm still wondering if maybe I could call AT&T and exchange my X for a Nexus 6. Depending on which associate you get you can sometimes get exactly what you want even though the return period has lapsed.
[X 2014 General] mistermartian:
Contacted Motorola. They said they already sent it to AT&T. Contacted AT&T... they ain't go it.

I've done this before and basically got the same response. I'm assuming that they're just waiting, but if it isn't here I'm getting a different phone. I was under the impression I was buying a Pure Edition as I was walked through the purchase by Motorola, so I'm already very bitter about this purchase.
[X 2014 General] mefxes:
This is ready for us here in Brazil for a few days now. I'm not installing it for now.

[IMG="update screen"]http://s26.postimg.org/rne8gp9jt/Screenshot_2014_12_17_22_02_05.png[/IMG]
[X 2014 General] jphilippon:
You can't exchange to pure if you're getting the subsidized price.
[X 2014 General] apvikes28:
I actually paid unsubsidized. However I did get the cyber Monday 140 off. Wonder if they will honor the coupon for the swap?
[X 2014 General] jphilippon:
You paid full price for the ATT version? Oof. :eek:
[X 2014 General] apvikes28:
I know it sounds completely bonkers. But when I bought my nexus 4 in my area the dumb thing would hardly hold signal compared to the att specific devices. I didn't want the same thing to happen again.
[X 2014 General] dpw2atox:
I'm quite surprised it's taken this long for the OTA to be released. At this point I feel if we don't see it by the end of the week, we definitely won't get it until January.
[X 2014 General] kdwolf85:
If the trend stays true like with the 2013 edition; soak test invites, or at least the survey, went out on Sundays and the update would be pushed out the following Monday to select devices.
[X 2014 General] JensAiden:
I hopped on a chat with an ATT rep - they told me that according to Motorola, I should already have the update.

Yes. Thank you. I'm aware. :mad:
[X 2014 General] dpw2atox:
I just spoke with an AT&T Tech Support Rep who told me the update should be released to all AT&T XT1097 phones before the end of the year. Hopefully that means we'll see something soon.

edit: typo fix
[X 2014 General] rrossilva:
great news.. thanks
[X 2014 General] Endoran:
Omg. Hahaha! :mad:
[X 2014 General] mefxes:
Anyone knows if I need to undo things like root and s-off before updating?

Any advice?
[X 2014 General] mefxes:
Well, I tried to unroot and lock my device, but the locking seems not to be working.

Tried to update anyway, and after some time the device was softbricked. Reflashed stock through fastboot but can't update since locking the device again isn't working.
[X 2014 General] dpw2atox:
You shouldn't need to relock your device to install any update. If you are rooted yes you might need to remove root and go back to a stock configuration however that should be it. If your device is unlocked you should be able to get the images for your model device and just reflash it. The AT&T XT1097 can't be unlocked through Motorola so maybe you have a different XT1097? If you tried to apply the wrong image to your device you also might have bricked it, that said you should be able to FXZ back to a usable device.

I haven't see any links for the AT&T XT1097 OTA as of yet so I'm not sure what update you're applying.
[X 2014 General] Varun Garimella:
5.0 or 5.0.1?

Will this update be a direct 5.0.1 (which got lot of bugs fixed compared to 5.0) or 5.0?
[X 2014 General] dpw2atox:
I saw a post earlier by Motorola which said that 22.21.11 or newer builds include all of the fixes in 5.0.1 so that shouldn't matter.
[X 2014 General] mefxes:
Well, maybe I can try again after I reflashed the files to unbrick my device.

My XT1097 is from Brazil, standalone version. I Already unlocked it through Moto website.

It was rooted, so I tried to unroot it throught the SuperSu app and uninstalled the app. Then, after a reboot, I checked root wasn't working anymore and tried to install the update. No success. So I thought I maybe needed to relock the device.

But after reflashing the original files to make my device boot to the system again, maybe I can give another try even without relocking it, is that it?
[X 2014 General] mefxes:
Well, I was able to install the update after the process.

Now most things aren't working.

Can't make phonecalls

Can't receive phonecalls

Can't open SMS

Most apps vanished, some that remained lost all info and the ones working are really slow

Gmail doesn't work and asks to install google play services

Play store won't open

Every reboot phone takes forever and shows like it's updating again

Well, it's taking pictures... :p

But my most recent pictures and videos are missing

----------EDIT: I was able to restore a previous 4.4.4 backup and now everything seems to be ok.
[X 2014 General] bwobst:
How did you restore a 4.4.4 backup?
[X 2014 General] mefxes:
Reflashed twrp via fastboot and restored a backup I made minutes before.

Enviado de meu XT1097 usando Tapatalk
[X 2014 General] mustafu:
More news of the update in other regions (UK), but ATT stays mum yet. The only Android 5 phone available from them at the moment is the Nexus 6 to the best of my knowledge. I guess better luck next year?
[X 2014 General] kdwolf85:
Maybe I'm reading into it, but it seems to me like there may be some movement on the update over on the Motorola Feedback Network. One individual was asking about when they will get the update after getting the soak test invite. However, after checking their profile it looks like their carrier is US Cellular.
[X 2014 General] Spza:
Bad news

I spoke with a rep yesterday and was told that late February was the absolute earliest that we can expect the update because att has decided to wait until 5.0.2 so that a stable build could be utilized. They were sent 5.0 but didn't even consider certifying it. So we are SOL for a couple months, and I'm pissed because I went to by the nexus 6 twice and att had broken nexuses the first time I went on launch day, and then none in stock the next the next time. So me being a gullable idiot I thought the Moto x would be updated in a week or two at most anyway so I could just pull the trigger on that one.. Then I found out they only had the 16 gb version in stock for the Moto x and I got it anyway. So att has royaly blown everything for me. In the end we have ourselves to blame for buying something so dumb as the Carrier branded Moto x, from att of all the carriers none the less.. We are idiots.
[X 2014 General] GrantB13:
No Christmas presents from ATT it seems :(

February at the earliest? I can appreciate a stable build, but the wait sucks. I kinda thought I'd be updated possibly the day I got it or by now at least.
[X 2014 General] johnnydnb:
Same here, I can't update my phone. So sad about it.
[X 2014 General] kdwolf85:
Just to reiterate. This thread is for the AT&T variant of the XT1097. The individuals posting here about updates to the Brazilian model are going to end up either causing confusion or false hope for others.
[X 2014 General] 66racer:
Well guess I wasnt the only one hoping for an ATT Christmas present lol. Man Feb....man I should have gotten the pure edition, I figured the att moto x 2014 would be updated quickly and with the $100 sign on credit I figured why not get the att version, storage wasnt an issue for me anyways with 16gb but I really thought they would have been faster.

I cant blame att though, they want to try to make sure its a 100% stable build but gez....