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[TouchPad Development] UponFirstListen:
You are not alone. I stopped using Tapatalk altogether on my Touchpad.
[TouchPad Development] Techweed:
I've been out of the Touchpad loop for years so forgive me. This is slightly OT, but I have the Touchpad running on ICS still. I'm interested in updating it to Lollipop. Is there a noticeable performance boost from previous Android versions running on this tablet? I really want to give this ROM a shot but not sure if it's worth the hassle since I'm only interested in faster response and performance and not more features. Thank you so much!
[TouchPad Development] GRS10:
Hmm. Okay, I don't think it's the PMF problem then. :( Let me think on it a bit more.

The reason why I leaned towards PMF/802.11w being the issue is that your Touchpad can connect to *some* WiFi devices (ex. your hotspot) but not others, which led me towards the router having 802.11w issues (a well known issue for certain routers, especially un-updated Cisco routers). However, not connecting to the router when it is unsecured opens a lot of different possibilities...

edit: What DD-WRT build are you using?
[TouchPad Development] firepower9966:
Flintman would it be possible for you to add a filemanager and terminal app to your Rom, same as CM and other roms, would make debugging much easier, especially when you cant download apps due to wifi problems im having.
[TouchPad Development] jsgraphicart:
I honestly don't even remember what ICS felt like on this tablet. lol. But KitKat was pretty smooth. Lollipop is new and is still getting work done to make it smoother but it's getting close to what KitKat is. If you plan on updating though, do some reading first. You will have to resize partitions before updating.
[TouchPad Development] Atlasstorm:
Just connect via USB to your computer and side load any file manager
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Certain versions of JB and all of KK and L use the new data/media format that gives you a serious learning curve to overcome. J.C. Sullins also introduced TouchPad Toolbox that allows you to completely remove WebOS and then install Android. That adds some more learning curve to the equation. Lollipop is still very new and extremely experimental. If you want to experience the improvements of one of the latest CM versions of Android, I would install the latest J.C. Sullin's build. If you prefer the simplicity of an ASOP build, then I would give one of Flintman's Evervolv Android 4.4.4 builds. Either is extremely mature and IMHO, very stable for something that most devices as old as the TouchPad only dream of having. I strongly suggest not trying anything until you do your homework and you have lots to do. You are lucky that Sullins developed the Toolbox. Up to that point, installing a data media Rom was a rather scary experience. His Toolbox made it a much easier and more straight forward procedure. Here is several links to get you started:

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/179730-r...-with-jcsullins-tptoolbox-the-super-easy-way/

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2756314

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2523609

Happy reading,

NT
[TouchPad Development] firepower9966:
by

DD-WRT v24-sp2 (01/24/13) std - build 20548

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/D-Link_DIR-632

just upgraded to latest, still same, no wifi on touchpad

DD-WRT v24-sp2 (01/04/15) std - build 25760

Gone Back to KitKat 4.4.4 kernel 3.4 No WiFi, KitKat 4.4.4 kernel 3.0 WiFi OK.
[TouchPad Development] babcocca:
The 1/3 Report

Good build very smooth. Bluetooth is non functional. Cannot pair to any of my devices.
[TouchPad Development] suzib6sw:
Confirmed.. My Galacy S3 sees the Touchpad, the Touchpad cant "see" any devices.. The S3 cannot pair to the TP.
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Can u get a log as i can connect to my S4, keyboard, and speaker without issue.
[TouchPad Development] suzib6sw:
Hopefully this covers it..
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Nothing jumps out. I just tried BT with the latest build again as i though maybe i didn't test but i did. Ya connected fine to my HP BT keyboard and a HMDX speaker along with my phone and transfered a file. Is the device connected to something else i have chased issues with not displaying the device and then realized that it was connected to something else. I may have to put a build together with more debugging to find out why it's not discovering for you. If you could after trying to discover go to settings-toolbox-Bug Report. Select everything but last_klog and radio logcat and upload. Let me know when you uploaded. It will give me more information.

Thanks
[TouchPad Development] rebel1699:
Great work! had some issues at first with installing. Symlink errors and updater error. Then, I realized my system was too small. Increased it to over 1024 and all installed perfectly. Great thread, and excellent work.
[TouchPad Development] reds28heem:
I'm trying to flash the lastest Lollipop build and I keep getting stuck on incompatible gapps/rom versions 5.0/5.0.2.... I'm using toobox 41,... I'm using the gapps provided in the OP
[TouchPad Development] sstar:
Have you just tried flashing the rom and gapps with flintman's recommended recovery? This is assuming that you have already resized your partitions.
[TouchPad Development] Moody66:
Flash with recovery. Not toolbox. This has been talked about aloy in this thread if you read it. Renaming etc..
[TouchPad Development] suzib6sw:
Thanks [MENTION=3716175]flintman[/MENTION]

URL is http://paste.evervolv.com/view/5a11aa70

Cheers..

Pete
[TouchPad Development] GRS10:
Hi,

I've thought about it a bit more, and there's a small possibility that it's an issue with interference or channels. Have you ever tried switching the WiFi channel on your router? You can also change the channel width as well. The reason why I suggest this is because interference/signal strength is a common factor if both open/secured setups are failing to connect.

Also, your router should have some sort of system log that records when something is trying to connect. Have you looked at that yet?
[TouchPad Development] babcocca:
Its the channel width.

20Mhz only not Auto or 20/40Mhz
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
New update add in multiuser and specific wifi buffers
[TouchPad Development] Trainer_H:
Thank you

Xposed didn't work for me :(:(
[TouchPad Development] zerofx_gth:
Because xposed didnt work under lollipop. Google switched to the new ART instead Dalvik. Xposed runs only under Dalvik.
[TouchPad Development] jerryatherton:
Xposed will not work with ART and all Lollipop ROMs are ART. All devices.
[TouchPad Development] jsgraphicart:
That's because xposed doesnt work on lollipop in general

EDIT: didn't realize other people already mentioned this.
[TouchPad Development] mikehd1959:
I don't think Xposed works on lollipop... yet.

How did I miss the previous two posts??
[TouchPad Development] McBeanTIO:
1 Gig System Partition

Has anyone run this room with a 1 Gig system partition?

I only ask as I started to run Invisiblek's Lollipop ROM over the weekend and noticed significant performance improvement on his ROM with my device. Besides have a much larger ROM to install (~30-40 Meg), he recommended changing the system partition to 1 Gig. My TP runs like current KitKat ROMs with the larger system space, but I'm not technical enough to know if this is why his ROM performs more smoothly than Evervolv.

Anyone smarter than me know, or have some insight?

--McBean
[TouchPad Development] chris5s:
Not necessarily smarter than you, or have any huge insight, but that seems like a good call... these Lollipop builds are a great addition to the Touchpad portfolio.

Cheers, peace.
[TouchPad Development] firepower9966:
Have done this set it to 20Mhz (was 20/40 before) only, and moved to a empty channel, still same fault, but it has improved my wifi performance to my PC.

still not getting IP address in lollipop or kitkat kernal 3.4, but kitkat kernel 3.0 work OK.
[TouchPad Development] jerryatherton:
I have enlarged my partition for the Evervolv Rom and it only helped a little bit. Flintman is working on it, he will fix it.
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
I am working on it and will fix it 8). The 1 gb system is meant for the block style install. I currently don't use it as i asummed it was only for install but may have something to do with performance maybe. Im compiling a build with block OTA now. The reason i never went to it is I wanted to keep it compaitable with older recoveries but if i gain performance ill switch. Compiling now lets see what happens. 8)
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
I believe 3.0 uses modules which inturn uses backports. 3.4 we use modules built into the kernel. Maybe something missing in there. can you get a log from your router. Im curious what its poping out for errors. Unsure how to retrieve a log you will have to google it.

Thanks
[TouchPad Development] pyroman512:
The latest 01/09 seems to be running smooth for me. I didn't have great luck with the 01/03 build. I'm using a 1 Gig system partition which seemed to help things a lot. I still see some crashes on occasion where the it just says "system has stopped responding" and asks if you want to close it and then it usually hotboots. Anyone else seeing these kind of things often?? The frequency in which it does has definitely gone down since changing builds.

I used to use jcsullins's CM11 build and it was pretty much unusable to me because of reboots and crashes.. I don't use it as much as I used to so I didn't care to troubleshoot it back then.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
What older recoveries are you trying to stay compatible with? I know you have your build of TWRP on the OP, but thought that was mainly to incorporate MTP in TWRP. Could you explain "block style install."

Thanks,

NT

---------- Post added at 08:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:05 PM ----------

Not to get into a long discussion of builds here, but J.C. Sullin's CM11 builds are some of the most rock solid around, on my TouchPad and numerous other friend's TouchPads I've installed it on. Maybe your problem is your tablet since you seem to be having the same problem with Flintman's builds. PM me if you want to discuss more.

NT
[TouchPad Development] MrGHLover:
red line glitch

when i'm browsing in an app there is a red line that pops up a lot. i don't know what it is. has anyone else had this in their touchpad
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Just an FYI still working a few things but going to be moving over to block style OTA. This will require a system partition of at least 800MB. The reason for this is to allow for easier install with JCSullins awesome toolbox.
[TouchPad Development] Atari-San:
Was having the same problem with the december 23 build when i tried this roms before reflashing my backup of pac-man roms. It was happening in google chrome browser only. Not very useful when you watch video on chrome and this happen.
[TouchPad Development] meigallo:
Same problem here with chrome and red frame.
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Been working on updates and have a bunch done. I have increased performance with 2d/3d graphics but still getting a low score on the runtime. Ill probably be releaseing an update today for all to try out. Includes a bunch of wifi updates as well. Im trying a few more things now hopefully have something out later this afternoon
[TouchPad Development] Steelskinz:
Tried to flash 09/01 build, works, but when i launch it after selecting France/french keyb etc.. The aosp keyboard doesn't launch at all.

Will try with the new build you'll release today. ;)
[TouchPad Development] jsgraphicart:
I just got myself a Nexus 10. Finally decided to upgrade from my beloved HP TouchPad. But I am still going to follow the development here and probably keep my tablet up to date with the latest builds. I have to see how far this tablet can go. Lol. Keep up the great work [MENTION=3716175]flintman[/MENTION]
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Oh i will keep going until i can't go any more 8) All, I updated a bunch of repos the last few days. Still having issues increasing the performance with the runtime. Seems to be the only lacking in benchmark test compared to CM. I don't like to go to crazy with updates between releases as there maybe hidden problems. i usually test about 12 to 13 different things when i do updates and can't do it all that why i need all of you. BTW you all have to be the best when it comes to these forums. Thanks for that 8).. Give the new update a try, like i said a bunch was updated from AV to WIFI. I was going crazy the last few days 8). Also Elginsk8r added in an easier drop down menu,if you swipe in the far right corner it will pull down both menus similar to the double finger drop down. You can disable in the toolbox. Let me know how the test goes and i will continue to work on getting the benchmark numbers up for the runtime. I needed a break from the tp4g its kicking my a$$. Got the TP4G running with the newest RIL and everything is good just can't get data out of the cell card. The RIL and tele stuff in lollipop has completely changes so i really need to map it all out to find out why so i really need a break from that lol.
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
FYI just found a minor bug with that quick drop down menu you can't disable in toolbox if just renables. Fixed, will be in next release
[TouchPad Development] McBeanTIO:
[MENTION=3716175]flintman[/MENTION] - Have you tried pushing the system partition to 1 Gig on your builds to test performance? I'm testing the CM12 ROMs from [MENTION=2385005]invisiblek[/MENTION] and his guidance to make that adjustment at install seems to be a key system difference that makes his ROMs run smoother. Also noticing his ROM is altogether about 30-40 Meg larger, so not sure what else he is cramming in there. Downside, he hasn't gotten Netflix fixed yet like yours.

Anyhow - inquiry was to see if you had tested and had any understanding if that would drive ROM performance at all. The partitions and their exact purpose are all a little over my head, so thought I'd just drop the question in here to you.

Thanks for all your hard work! It really is appreciated; especially as an HP employee who thinks removing this thing from market was a premature misstep.

--McBean
[TouchPad Development] hhairplane:
I can't seem to install the latest build is it a possible misupload/misdownload?

EDIT: I got it to work. My bad.
[TouchPad Development] firepower9966:
I finally got my wifi connected and working on Lollipop, I changed my wireless network mode from N to NG-mixed. All my devices are wireless N. strange, but this works so this is what i use.

My router is Dlink DIR-632 running DD-WRT. 2015 firmware.
[TouchPad Development] bundys:
So what are recommended volume sizes for the new installs for a 32GB variant?
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
800mb system min. For now.
[TouchPad Development] bundys:
I reduced my media partition by 400mb and gave the space to the cm-system partition, for a total of 1GB. Installed the 01-15 build and it succeeded, but for some reason I can't even enter my wifi password as the aosp keyboard crashes each time I tap on a text entry field. Also, for the first time ever "Android Keyboard (AOSP)" shows up in the app drawer - totally wierd. Is the aosp keyboard part of the system ROM or something wrong with a gapps package I'm using? Also, install was performed after a full wipe.
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Should be part if ROM. But some gapps will copy over it. I use the gapps posted in the first thread. Try those and i would be curious if the 1 gig part will increase performance was going to test this weekend but if u reflash with those gapps and everything is good could u try an antutu benchmark and pm me the results. Will save me some time 8).
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Also try a format of system partition. Before install
[TouchPad Development] bundys:
Yup, did that too. Just tried a different gapps package with same results - keyboard still crashes.
[TouchPad Development] Atari-San:
Oh, for the keyboard problem, it's the gapps which got that problem according to some other device forum (don't remember if it was skyrocket or hercules or tf101), you just need to reflash lollipop gapps beta5 instead of beta7, it seem they screw the keyboard on beta7.
[TouchPad Development] DBISGOD:
Anyone seen twrp 2.8.4.0 for tp?
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Still on .3 once these updates are finished ill pull the newest recovery and rebuild. My fear is it will grow in size and we are limited in the boot partition but ill run it.
[TouchPad Development] DBISGOD:
Cant you resize the partition for boot? Also since webos is done is there a way to remove those partitions?
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Cant resize it 8( in regards to webos if its removed android can only grab those which gives you more data room. But if webos is removed it does free up some space on the boot partition.
[TouchPad Development] bundys:
Formated system, reinstalled using older version of gapps and things are ok. I'll do an Antutu run later today and let you know how it does.

Edit: I sent you a pm with the results. TP was overclocked to 1.8ghz at the time.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
I guess you have not read about J.C. Sullin's TouchPad Toolbox yet.

NT
[TouchPad Development] DBISGOD:
No, never had a reason to. Had my touchpad working for a long time and just use tailor.
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
got 2.8.4 recovery build slight increase in size not bad. Still want to test it a little more. Also Elginsk8r pulled all the CM Theme engine into evervolv. Still got some testing on this to do as well along with the final wifi updates. Want to test this the rest of the day today and will post recovery and update later today if all is good.
[TouchPad Development] DBISGOD:
Just a note thanks for the toolbox info, just removed web os may add lune later, also wanted to say that you are doing a great job, I like that everything works in twrp now like vibration and the 5.0.2 rom is on par with the one I am running on my gnex.

Also would like everyone to know a full restore of android to the way it was with a dual boot took less than 15 minutes.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Then you should. TPTB makes Tailor completely obsolete. Resizing volumes is a breeze. WebOS is all but dead, support ending soon. No more servers, not more app store, etc. TPTB completely removes WebOS, freeing up around 5 gigs for Android. If you really plan to keep WebOS, have you prepared your tablet and software? I begged for years for a method to remove WebOS, me prayers have been answered.

Interesting, you posted "Also since webos is done is there a way to remove those partitions?" And yet you show no interest in the tool that does exactly what you asked for and more.

NT
[TouchPad Development] DBISGOD:
I wasn't aware of everything till I booted web os today and all the apps were broken. Used the toolbox and removed web os and installed only android with a little bit saved to test luneos.
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
new recovery up 2.8.4 8)

Also new build is up CM Theme engine added in also fixed that bug with disabling that quick swipe feature. There isn't alot of Themes that work. Recommend waiting for some CM12 themes to be added before trying. There is a select CM11 that do work but not that many ATM
[TouchPad Development] charleypick:
Flintman, I read today that 5.0.2 has some fixes for fstrim that caused devices with older NAND to operate slowy. Apparently 5.0.2 give these devices a noticeable speed boost. That may be why your 5.0 build isn't as fast as you expected it to be.
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Could you point me to the article you read?
[TouchPad Development] charleypick:
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-7-nexus-10-factory-5-0-2-580858/
[TouchPad Development] hklcf:
When i install the ev_tenderloin-testing-2015.01.03.zip via TWRP v2.8.3.0/2.8.4.0, it return unable to mount /system.

How can i fix this problem:confused:

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Edit:

Simply resize the partition cm-system via TPTB and the problem has been solved.
[TouchPad Development] gaww:
I booted up WebOS and everything already installed seems to still work (email, maps, etc).

Their email system is much better then AOSP, and is the main reason I use it at times. At some point I might remove it, but as long as it works and I don't need the room, I will probably leave it alone.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Have you done your research and preparation for when all support for WebOS ends. It's not like we haven't been beating that drum for months.

NT
[TouchPad Development] gaww:
I was well aware of that and intended to continue to use it as-is if possible after the shutdown (even got emails from them on it). I was just surprised to hear someone was not able to use it, which is odd at this point - per the below:

All devices running webOS will continue to run after the cloud services are terminated. However, they will no longer be able to:

•Download new apps or updates. The HP App Catalog will be unavailable after the shutdown

•Backup or restore devices from the cloud

•Setup new devices

•Recover lost passwords

We are a bit off topic here - not unusual when waiting for a new release - lol.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
I suspect that what he meant was he tried to download something from the app store and it did not work. Since he had already removed WebOS, I did not pursue it. I was just making sure with you that you were prepared, that's all.

NT
[TouchPad Development] garux:
Want a great email app, try Blue Mail with your new Android 5.0 rom.
[TouchPad Development] bundys:
[MENTION=3716175]flintman[/MENTION], is there any way to port the Netflix fix from lollipop to your KitKat build?
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Ya it should work but no longer have kitkat nighties going. evervolv moves to the next as soon as the next release is out. Let me see if i still have kitkat synced and give one last update.
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
To much to fix to get kitkat to build ATM. Ill see what i can do with it in between working other stuff.

MAYBE not. got it built just need some testing will post in kitkat thread as final.
[TouchPad Development] bundys:
Awesome, let me know if you need me to test something for you.
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Check kitkat thread final release in there with Netflix fix.
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
I find this a bit funny and why i dont really trust these benchmark tools i use them as a guide. Well i ran a benchmark on kitkat and only got a 11097. Lollipop im scoring well into 13000. So i guess looking at benchmark test lolllipop is better. And the more i play with kitkat i don't really notice a performance difference between the two. Well still working to maximize the device with lollipop but wanted to share that little information. How do you all think the performance between lollipop and kitkat? Big, slight, about the same?? thoughts would be good also is it noticiable during certain apps or all ? this will help me pin down where need to see if i can maximize anymore.

Thanks
[TouchPad Development] Mchasard:
I just flash it after resizing the system part to more than 1024Mo....i I don't really feel this new build smoother or speeder than the previous..... Could we expect better performance..... For the moment I didn't tried other lollipop rom.... So I don't have any compare point..... Thanks
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Compaired to kitkat how is it. Still looking into boosting it.
[TouchPad Development] suzib6sw:
Thanks for the Rom Flintman. I did notice that this seems a little more laggy when opening apps than your KK but in general, the 3.4 Kernel seems slower than the 3.0.. I have a 32G and 16G and i have Milaq's 3.0 Lolipop on one and your 3.4 Lolipop on another and there is a definite speed difference with the same apps (including the XDA app)

Having said that, its still fast enough for what I use it for..

Thanks again..
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
I agree. In fact, I would say that a good use for a benchmark would be to use the same version of Android on two different devices and the benchmark would tell you which device runs that version faster.

NT