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[X 2014 General] gammite:
lets just say that i am not all that impressed with lollipop. i don't see what the hype is.

also, the phone is giant. if that is what someone wants then cool. but it is super large.

and after having a leather moto x. using a plastic phone feels awful.

imo, lollipop is not all of that. and material design needs more customization options. that super bright theme is not desirable.
[X 2014 General] rrossilva:
thanks, i will play with a nexus 6 before i buy one.
[X 2014 General] caelar:
Should be here soon!

U.S. Cellular got their update today, and many AT&T devices aswell, hopefully this means the AT&T X will aswell! :)
[X 2014 General] Endoran:
What version #?
[X 2014 General] caelar:
5.0 from the looks of it in my father's G3 but I'll let you know for sure when the update finishes.

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Correction its 5.0.1
[X 2014 General] rrossilva:
lg g3 faster than moto x.. great...

but its good news
[X 2014 General] caelar:
Other lollipop updates

Can confirm that my HTC One M8 on AT&T also received the lollipop 5.0.1 update today.
[X 2014 General] Hobart!:
I finally got some information about the AT&T 2014 Moto X Lollipop Update!!? As of just a few hours ago AT&T has approved a 5.1 build (he may have meant 5.0.1 but he said 5.1 and confirmed 5.1 a couple times)for the AT&T Moto X 2014! From what he said rollout will begin shortly in tiers starting with a mix of imei numbers and order of purchase..IN Reverse! So if you bought your phone like I did the day it was released, we will be towards the end of the line.This is good news for us AT&T devices as they usually have no info about updates but I like to always try every few weeks. Today I finally got somewhere....I hope. He said its official as of today! This is what a very helpful gentleman in tech support told me. (he acknowledged that they usually don't have much information but today he did) So keep checking and let us know if you get it!!!
[X 2014 General] Endoran:
I so hope this guy is right!! But I'm skeptical given how many times support has stated false or misleading things.
[X 2014 General] Hobart!:
Dude I am with ya....I don't totally believe it my self.....I talked with him for about 30 minutes. I started off by telling him that I am pretty tech savvy and spit some knowledge at him that i follow this stuff pretty closely so he kinda opened up knowing I wasn't some regular caller that he could just give the standard answer to. He seemed like a tech type of guy to so he just kinda talked to me about the moto x lollipop update and how the updating works at AT&T, how the build gets passed between google, moto AT&T and back to moto for release. He said a few hours ago they received official word that they accepted the build for release in tiers. He talked about the LG G3 getting it two days ago and the GS 5 getting 4.4.4 as we speak ( sucks for them) and a new tower near me. So with all that said let's keep our fingers crossed and hope he was telling the truth!
[X 2014 General] dan1431:
I once spoke to a Support person who seemed a little better than the average person I have come into contact with at at&t and after a little chit chat, I asked what they (support) are told about software updates and the like and he said very little.

Sometimes, he said he will hear rumors or an update will be posted in their systems that an software update is rolling out but that is generally when the software is rolling out, not much before. He did say that sometimes a Supervisor will update them ahead of time if the Supervisor is in the loop and he admitted that he sometimes gets his info from sites like XDA and tech blogs.

So, maybe the support person referenced above is right, maybe he isn't but I cannot imagine it can be much longer.

Dan
[X 2014 General] Spza:
I was told nearly the same information (that the next stable build would be released in mid to late February) in December so there are people that know what's going on, but most people are too lazy to use the information available to them at their jobs if it involves an unusual customer request that they deem unimportant (update information requests ahem) but I did have have to go through a bunch of those to get a straight answer, and when I told b the guy that other employees were saying att doesn't inform us about updates before they are being sent out, the guy said sure they do, and looked up the info in a few seconds.
[X 2014 General] xFuGiToiDx:
I guess motorola is just waiting for at&t at this point.
[X 2014 General] logm:
It has said that since November
[X 2014 General] mosby:
At&t isn't stopping the roll out for other phones.
[X 2014 General] xFuGiToiDx:
Bummer :(
[X 2014 General] android_dan:
Agreed. My wife has a G3 and received 5.0.1 today.

Not very happy with Motorola right now. Granted it's a nice phone, but there's a lot of nice phones out there. I bought this because of the supposedly quick updates. :(
[X 2014 General] ps3kev:
Anyone heard any news on this yet..
[X 2014 General] PhysStyx:
I have not heard anything, but you don't know how many times I've been spammed that "System updates" button.
[X 2014 General] logm:
At this point hitting that button is a waste of time. When att releases it this thread and other news sites will blow up. Then a couple days later your device will see a new version available.
[X 2014 General] GrantB13:
Yeah. I'm thinking about signing up for the email notification on either att or motorola's site. Can't remember which it is. Google I/O 2015 is already scheduled and almost nobody even has their version they announced last year. Do they plan on announcing a new android version this year?
[X 2014 General] logm:
I would just subscribe to this thread and get daily email updates.

I can see I/O announcing and releasing 5.1. I don't think the update will be that big just fix many of the issues with 5.0.X I'm thinking it will be similar from 4.2 to 4.3

If that happens it should probably hit our phones late summer
[X 2014 General] Gh05tly:
Not Moto. Not Google. But both.

On all the other Moto X 2nd Generation handsets that have received 5.0.1 there are a lot of bugs, hardware issues and bricked phones. Therefore AT&T scrapped 5.0.1 in favor of 5.1.x. We should see it in the next month or two. I would rather have a stable phone than all the latest looks and features. So both Google and Moto are to blame at this point. I basically see it as AT&T performing a bit of CYOA and also protecting our interests in regards to not having a terrible experience on our awesome Moto X phones. I am quite happy with 4.4.4 (although I yearn for bleeding edge in all things tech).
[X 2014 General] kejar31:
Your argument has some holes though..

I believe that US Cellular's X2 just received 5.0.2.. So Motorola has definitely not stopped any kind of rollout..

AT&T has also pushed lollipop to both the G3 and the HTC M8... So I don't believe AT&T has put some sort of block on 5.0.x

If I had my guess.. Moto has most likely sent 5.0.2 to AT&T and they are testing.. It will prob roll out when AT&T's slow ass decides
[X 2014 General] Gh05tly:
Actually you fail to ackwoledge that this issue is a hardware issue. G3 and HTC M8 are completely different spec wise. The US Cellular X2 is CDMA. It is also plagued with bugs if you did any research. The ATT handset is GSM. The official rumor is that because of these issues, they have skipped 5.0.x and will start with 5.1.x.
[X 2014 General] cbbyers:
What exactly is an official rumor? More speculation, please...
[X 2014 General] AMS-Jinx:
Got invite for new software test for ATT moto x 2014 few minutes ago!
[X 2014 General] mustafu:
Woohoo! Finally
[X 2014 General] Canibeat_teg:
How do you get that invite!?
[X 2014 General] dfmutz:
Question

How long have you been registered? I just registered and filled in all the information but I was wondering if you did too just recently. I figure they either do it one of two ways, pull batches at certain times to see who is registered and then send invites or just send the emails as it finds users that apply to the criteria. Really hoping its the second one so I get an email soon asking me to upgrade.
[X 2014 General] dpw2atox:
I also got the invite and filled out the survey. Finally we're getting somewhere!
[X 2014 General] tannerg:
Must be nice
[X 2014 General] dan1431:
I could be completely wrong here, but it does not say at&t Moto X, it says Moto X on at&t which could mean any Moto X running on at&t, Pure Edition, branded, etc.

Just my reading from the image posted up thread which could be completely wrong.

Dan
[X 2014 General] logm:
I could be wrong but isn't the only evidence of 5.1 the android one page? I don't think 5.1 is released or announced yet.
[X 2014 General] mustafu:
I'm 99% certain they're implying att branded X's
[X 2014 General] kejar31:
Lol OK dude.. Honestly I very seriously doubt the holdup is radio related.. Also the G3 and M8 are based on almost identical hardware ( under the hood ) they are all MSM8474 Qualcomm chipsets.. Also they all use the same Qualcomm radio :P
[X 2014 General] gammite:
the moto has alot of different hardware than many other phones.
[X 2014 General] kejar31:
Lol I am sorry there is no special moto hardware in the Moto X2... Other than the camera's, display and a few ir sensors... It's basically the same hardware as the G3 and M8
[X 2014 General] gammite:
u just mentioned three items. and there are more. :D i didn't say they were special. i just said different.
[X 2014 General] Endoran:
Their low power cores are special.
[X 2014 General] kejar31:
The motoX 2014 doesn't have low power cores like the 2013... Most of the special features in the original motoX 8 core solution were incorporated into the later Qcom chips like the MSM8474.. Aka why the knock to wake feature works across so many devices now..
[X 2014 General] Endoran:
From their website:

"Motorola Mobile Computing System including 2.5GHz Qualcomm®*Snapdragon™ 801 with quad-core CPU (MSM 8974-AC), Adreno 330 @ 578 MHz GPU, Natural Language Processor, Contextual Computing Processor"

Motorola's own low powered core is the contextual computing processor. They decided to not use the one built into the 801 since they were unhappy with the battery life.

Also from anandtech: http://anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review/2
[X 2014 General] xFuGiToiDx:
I just received the soak test email as well! I swear I had a feeling last night that today was gonna be the day! Hopefully they push out the update later on today.
[X 2014 General] tannerg:
I like the do not post any info on public sites disclaimer lol
[X 2014 General] bondlolo:
How can I sign up to receive that email? What do I have to do?
[X 2014 General] xFuGiToiDx:
Register your device and opt in the Motorola Feedback Network (MFN).
[X 2014 General] dfmutz:
How Long?

Can anyone tell me if they registered today and got the email today?
[X 2014 General] GrantB13:
I registered, but didn't get an invite yet unfortunately. New signees probably move to the back of the line.
[X 2014 General] Endoran:
Who knows. I registered months ago when I first got my phone.
[X 2014 General] ps3kev:
how long after a soak test until they release it to public
[X 2014 General] dan1431:
I was talking with a colleague and good friend who uses a Pure Edition Moto X 2nd Gen on at&t and he got the invite and was able to successfully take the survey, so either Moto made a mistake and sent out invites to a larger pool than they intended (all Moto X 2nd Gens Pure and Branded running on at&t) or Moto-at&t are testing something on all Moto X capable of running on at&t (maybe VoLTE???)

Either way, time will tell,

Dan
[X 2014 General] xFuGiToiDx:
Maybe all the moto x 2014 is gonna be updated perhaps to 5.0.2? The Chinese version is already running it and also US cellular, if I'm not mistaken. Also the Verizon variant owners received a soak test invite today.
[X 2014 General] n82k:
I got soak test invite for first gen x on usc at the same time as att 2nd gen.
[X 2014 General] PhysStyx:
Hoping to get the soak test by this week. Just signed up for MFN.
[X 2014 General] gammite:
don't get your hopes up. when i signed up for the 2013x i didn't get an invitation until the next soak.

and honestly after a soak actually goes out we usually get the ota within 3 or 4 days.
[X 2014 General] G4 Man2:
I believe it was the Verizon Moto X that actually got lollipop for everyone two days after the soak test invites went out.

So yeah, lots of possibilities.
[X 2014 General] gammite:
i am speaking historically of what happens once an actual soak test goes out on att. not vzw.
[X 2014 General] G4 Man2:
I've had soak tests that were sent out a week or two later on att. My point is that the timeframe can be all over the place. Plus I brought the Verizon thing up because that was also through Motorola.
[X 2014 General] gammite:
that sux for you. i usually get an ota btwn 2-4 days after a soak goes out. and that has been since the atrix 4g. and i have only used moto phones as my primary since the atrix 4g.
[X 2014 General] G4 Man2:
I had the Atrix 4G too! :p loved that thing, that's one of the reasons I got the Atrix HD , that's one that took 1-2 weeks if I remember correctly.
[X 2014 General] PhysStyx:
Has anyone gotten that new Google update where it looks like 5.0 but it is still 4.4.4?
[X 2014 General] xFuGiToiDx:
That's just the Google now launcher update. Mine updated a while back during updating the motorola sensor services app from the play store.
[X 2014 General] dawgsoverrebs:
anyone got anything yet?
[X 2014 General] dan1431:
I have no experience with the Moto Feedback Network, so I have no expectation of time frame, but the email referenced above indicated it may not be immediate.

I beta test for a few different companies and each company is different, with one company when the company emails participants, the update is ready for testing, while another may take weeks between the initial email and the dissemination of the updated software.

Dan
[X 2014 General] ps3kev:
Well I guess the people that do get the update aren't allowed to say anything according to the MFN .. So they have to keep it to themselves
[X 2014 General] jdyowa:
Maybe they can't reply because it bricked their phones.
[X 2014 General] beefgoat:
Wouldn't that just be poetic.
[X 2014 General] dpw2atox:
From what I see the soak hasn't been pushed out yet but it should be starting "soon".
[X 2014 General] tannerg:
Where you see that?
[X 2014 General] dpw2atox:
I'm in the soak test and on the private forums? No one has said anything about getting the update yet and there was a post stating the update would start sometime this morning.......hence my comment no one has gotten it yet but it should start soon.
[X 2014 General] dpw2atox:
Got a minor status update.... "Now we're just waiting for final approval. Could come today - could be delayed. It's not unusual to have to wait a bit. Thanks for your patience."
[X 2014 General] logm:
Update from where?
[X 2014 General] dpw2atox:
Logm, please take 2 sec and read the post i made directly above that.
[X 2014 General] tannerg:
I'm new to this whole thing I thought you weren't suppose to talk if you are part of soak testing?
[X 2014 General] dpw2atox:
I've been in Motorola soak tests since I had my OG Droid and haven't been banned from any soaks by doing so.....now granted I don't take any official documents they share and post them either but if enthusiasts are curious as to the status of a soak test that I'm in, I'll provide any answers I can.
[X 2014 General] dannyblazer149:
ITS HERE

Guys im not part of the soak test. I am on att network with att branded and i just check to see if theres an update and its here. Its 10:39 as i checked and received it is indeed android lollipop. I didnt screenshot it cause of the excitement. Its currently downloading. Can anyone please tell me how i can capture the ota and upload it for you guys?
[X 2014 General] cbbyers:
Woohoo, mine is downloading as well.
[X 2014 General] beefgoat:
I think root access is required. I might be wrong.

[edit]

I just got the update, and I'm not a part of the soak test either. Looks like it's rolling out for everyone.
[X 2014 General] dannyblazer149:
maybe....i dont think so...

you may be right. either way imma try to find where the update is downloaded and see if i can copy it
[X 2014 General] Casyis:
I'm getting it too. Woohoo!
[X 2014 General] dannyblazer149:
Sad News

seems like there is no way for me to capture the ota without root, its supposed to be located in the /cache directory but since i do not have root it doesnt appear. guess you guys have to wait til it hits your phones
[X 2014 General] cbbyers:
Mine is installed. It's 5.0.2.
[X 2014 General] dannyblazer149:
just installed

it is indeed 5.0.2 :D
[X 2014 General] rob342:
mine too says "system update available". also not part of any special testing group.

ironically, i don't want the update. i am happy with 4.4.4. everything works great now IMO. unfortunately, i'm a curiousity killed the cat kinda guy. so it's downloading as i type. hopefully i don't regret it :p

i am fairly new to android and here to learn. is there any recommended practice after installing a system upgrade? anything to clear/delete/adjust to make the phone perform optimally?
[X 2014 General] kejar31:
update downloading here too.
[X 2014 General] dannyblazer149:
am I the only one noticing this?

Idk why but these two things bug me. Am I the only one with it? One: the phone dialer isn't material designed themed. And two: the signal bars are like off shape.
[X 2014 General] beefgoat:
If it turned out to be just 5.0, I definitely would have turned down the update. I'm glad I didn't though. I've been playing with CM12 lollipop on my 2013 X DE. This is much nicer, IMO.
[X 2014 General] D Steele219:
Makes me wonder what the notification to those in the Motorola Feedback program was intended for if this was indeed released to the entire user base. I'm grateful for the update nonetheless. :D
[X 2014 General] beefgoat:
One thing I don't like so far is the lack of a power bar widget.
[X 2014 General] mchiass:
I received the notification as well. I am hesitant :confused: about upgrading until further information comes out on the Verizon '14 X root bounty thread. From what I can tell the vulnerability is more likely to be usable on Kit Kat than on Lollipop due to the enhanced security.
[X 2014 General] rob342:
i like how my lock screen shows "Charging (16 minutes until full)" have you seen that?

i have 2 "Photos" icons. does everyone have that duplicate? or know why i do?
[X 2014 General] scottricketts:
Camera2 API?
[X 2014 General] tannerg:
Its in the notification pull down menu which i actually like better so its no biggie for me
[X 2014 General] DeadYachtMan:
I've got it too. Everything else seems good.
[X 2014 General] GrantB13:
Great news. Definitely going to download it later!
[X 2014 General] mustafu:
Whew finally. I hope future 5.x updates don't take as long!
[X 2014 General] rvbarton:
I just got the notification on my Moto X (AT&T) that there is a software update available (5.0 Lollipop). I"m downloading now. 652 megabytes!
[X 2014 General] Casyis:
Post-update, I noticed that I gained about 0.9 GB of storage! They really trimmed the fat with this release.
[X 2014 General] gammite:
anyone seeing any bugs?
[X 2014 General] bondlolo:
The only bug that I found is that the signal bars are not the lollipop one, but I think that AT&T don't consider that as a bug [emoji17]
[X 2014 General] gammite:
i hope i don't regret this update that i am about to initiate. i am happy with 4.4.4.
[X 2014 General] niko99:
now only what i need is ROOT and i can die :)
[X 2014 General] dannyblazer149:
Saaaaaaaaaaaaame
[X 2014 General] scottricketts:
Does this build have the Camer2 API enabled? Are you seeing sound issues, like where podcasting apps will stop if notifications or navigation pipes up? Any odd app closings?
[X 2014 General] gammite:
we really need a way to modify this theme. it is far too bright.
[X 2014 General] beatmastermcfly:
Disable google+ in your apps, then enable it and redownload the updates. You should be back to just one photos app.
[X 2014 General] bondlolo:
Camera2 API isn't enabled, sadly :( and I don't have any sound issues or any issue at all so far.
[X 2014 General] gammite:
The removal of the notification menu from holding down the power button sux.
[X 2014 General] scottricketts:
Well fudge and good. Post back if you're having any issues, I've been contemplating putting the 5.0.2 from US Cellular on my Pure Edition, if this solves the constant crashing of sound apps, I'll totally be doing it.
[X 2014 General] mercado79:
what sound apps crash for you? i'm on the u.s. cellular rom right now. wouldn't mind doing some testing for you.
[X 2014 General] scottricketts:
PocketCasts is notorious for crashing while Waze or Maps is running.

---------- Post added at 09:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:36 PM ----------

And comparing notes with work buddies running various builds of Lollipop on various devices, it's a Lollipop issue. I'd just like to see if Moto has tweaked anything in these 5.0.2 builds that addresses these sound app bugs, or we'll have to wait for 5.1.
[X 2014 General] mercado79:
Well, I can tell you right off the bat that the issue persists (Pocket Casts, SiriusXM, etc.). I don't think it's a sound app bug though. It's the infamous memory leak / memory management bug in 5.0.x builds. The hope is 5.1 has the fix baked in.
[X 2014 General] Kasracer:
Got the 5.0.2 update. When it first restarted I tried sending a text message and my entire system froze. After a few minutes I was able to restart it. Since then so far so good, haven't noticed any major issues. Hopefully they worked out most of the issues.
[X 2014 General] jphilippon:
Pocket Casts has been fine for me, in fact it resumes after being interrupted by notifications now where it didn't before.
[X 2014 General] dannyblazer149:
some 5.0 issues

5.0.2 Lollipop has been working just fine for me. no app crashes what so ever. it even fixed my contacts app which would frequently crash on 4.4.4 ktikat. but there are some issues ive noticed, i dont know if i am the only one. one the signal bar icon is not lollipop, idk if its a bug or att did it on purpose but its kinda bugs my ocd since it isnt themed. another thing is the dialer app icon is still the 4.4.4 icon, not the 5.0 icon. and lastly an actual issue i am having is a sound issue. when i change the ringer volume it doesnt make that "beep" or "boop" sound. it makes it sometimes... and when it does make the sound the calibration is way off, ill have it at full and it do the boop very softly, then i try again and it doesnt do, then when i hold volume up and let go it blast it. and other time it doesnt make the sound. that is the only true issue ive noticed about lollipop. other than that lollipop is smooth, fast and very stable and smooth on my moto . one last minor annoyance is the absence of silent mode, but ive noticed that "no interruptions" acts the same as silent mode, still shows notification just does not vibrate nor make sound. but im sure thats gonna be tweaked in 5.1 which im sure we all hope will be released faster than our 5.0.2 was.
[X 2014 General] dpw2atox:
The icon issue isn't a bug, the 5.0 icon is nexus only.
[X 2014 General] dannyblazer149:
oh okay, thats why i said i dont know if it was a bug or if it was meant for it. thanks for the info though
[X 2014 General] rob342:
this isn't a huge deal, but with driving mode, the way the volume fades in when you first get a call bothers me. when i was driving to work, my girlfriend called.

instead of hearing:

"(ring tone)- call from Porn, say answer or ignore"

all i hear is:

"um Porn, say answer or ignore"

i had her call back to verify, same thing. is there any way to fix that?
[X 2014 General] Kasracer:
One thing I noticed is upon upgrade the trusted bluetooth devices you may have had setup disappear. Not only that but the option to even do that is disabled BY DEFAULT (something they advertise, wtf?).

To re-enable go to Security -> Trust Agents -> Smart Lock. Then, after being enabled, go to Security -> Smart Lock and re-add your devices.