yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 6  General] One Twelve:
Both the shots had EV +1 added. Had the first been in focus it would have been a good shot.

Unless i'm missing something here, EV+1 is not an auto add, its a user add. When you see ISO's between the usual steps 200-400-800 and its in between then thats auto. But there is that and EV +1. Why EV+1 is there no smaller increment say 0.5.

It's not hard to learn, with the Z1 in its initial stages would boost ISO up and people would use manual settings and get it down. It took sony over 3 months to fix, many complained whilst those that tinkered got the shots. Same arguments were made, people were dumping what was a very good device in most respects on this little bit. They can root and install any number of mods, this is xda after all, but a little time doing manual drove them up the wall :D

They expect to point shoot and get the perfect shot. heh, not even a pro can pull that off.

An important reason to learn how to use the camera is people don't choose their phones based on the camera, there are a lot of other factors that come into it. The camera is an important consideration but not the primary one. if you pick a phone that isn't crippled then your choice expands otherwise you are limited and have to put up with other downsides.

Samsung & Apple and to some extent LG. Because manual does not do much. if you use lower ISO on your note the shutter will be short and you will get an underexposed shot. There is no more night mode its automatic starting from the galaxy s5. Scene modes on the xperia do not allow iso or shutter, and they output in 8MP, more like specialised auto but the problem is these scene modes are like a one size fits all, not always appropriate.

Its your choice, nexus owners are the 'chosen people' they get all the goodies many months before others, the most developement occurs on nexus. Others are pinning for RAW in lollipop and there is no guarantee that sony, samsung or lg will even offer it in existing models, but i can see them trying to push it with their next models.
[Nexus 6  General] The5Venomz:
Jesus Christ... This front-facing camera is complete ass!!!
[Nexus 6  General] machNex:
View attachment 3080649

Here's what Santa gets at my house. HDR+, minor in-phone crop.
[Nexus 6  General] das boot:
Actually, you are the one not being objective here. You want to believe (and post continuously) that the Nexus 6 camera isnt up to snuff....when people have posted photo after photo proving you wrong. If you want to switch to the Note...go ahead....no one is thread is trying to stop you. Cheers!
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
Great post!
[Nexus 6  General] raiderep:
Taken on my way home from work yesterday. Merry Christmas everyone ?
[Nexus 6  General] Wiley_11:
Wrong! Post #2 from the OP. "Post your pictures from nexus 6". I didn't see anything about *bash other posters with your biased opinions* from the OP.

Please let the other people post their Nexus 6 pictures without being harassed, as the OP intended. :D
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
3 photos from yesterday. one with good lighting, one with very poor lighting(in the light rain), and one at night, in heavy fog, without a flash.
[Nexus 6  General] One Twelve:
Love your bird photos. So inspiring. Can stare at them all day :D

xda only allows to thank a person 8 times in a day.

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His gripe is the google camera does not perform to his expectations. Fine, so what other software to use.

Was about to recommend 'a better camera' but when i see the comments from nexus 6 owners on the playstore it appears that its not ready for prime time yet on the nexus 6.

Camera fv-5 is another option, same story again, some people even got refunded because it did not work.

Both will work fine on the nexus 5, which has been out for a year and had most bugs ironed out.

So there is a wait until these camera work fully with the nexus 6. On auto they should perform better than google camera in less than ideal lighting conditions. That's all he wants.
[Nexus 6  General] digweed4me:
Camera fv 5 just got the update fixed the issues on nexus 6 but I like the better camera better
[Nexus 6  General] cobyman7035:
Can u guys post pix of women in yoga pants plz? ie lululemon ? and not the creep shots

Via my NeXus™ 7FHD on XDA Premium app
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
No yoga pants... but three different shots from our little dinner party tonight. Mixed lighting. Trying to see what this thing can do in with brightly lit background and dark foregrounds and some other mixes.
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
i want some of that cheese please :)
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
:) Hope you had a great Christmas. Keep dem birds comin'!
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
speaking of, for the birds..
[Nexus 6  General] alnova1:
Beer...
[Nexus 6  General] One Twelve:
Would like to take a closer look at the exifs of these shots, would you mind not using imgur as it strips all such info out.

picasa, google+, photobucket or flickr would be ideal.

These were taken with google camera presumably. Low light.

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My favourite, would look good poster size.
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
Yep. Google camera the light was pretty low except in the third photo where it was very high in the window and very low on the table. Just figured out how to post in google + (I know... I'm old...) Here you go.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-...vzWEBMKKE/w702-h507-no/candle+and+glasses.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAAAto/egAaxz_WFCs/w702-h532-no/cheeses.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAtw/lvJ-i6yiP64/w702-h521-no/livingroom.jpg
[Nexus 6  General] One Twelve:
Are all three HDR+ ?

ISO 1312, 1/13

ISO 4640 (!), 1/10

ISO 627, 1/14

If so then the ISO figures are meaningless. Way i understand HDR+ is one exposure is taken then the software boosts it x +EV and y -EV and then combines all three. The difference when compared to conventional HDR is only one exposure is taken. This way camera shake is reduced. Its a unique way of taking images that isn't the norm conventionally with any other platform. So it requires a different way of thinking. I find it unintuitive to use any sort of HDR with scenes like these as the light levels aren't all far apart, HDR means a 5+ f-stop difference between foreground and background. This is low light yet it seems HDR+ is controlling for glare and bringing back shadows which is desirable, very apparent in the third shot.

What i notice is the shutter is no slower than 1/10, traditionally this limit has been imposed to produce usable images ie without blur handheld but slower shutters allow more light and produce more detail at lower ISO, this is where manual controls when available will be able to produce better quality images. However it remains to be seen by how much. Google thinks there is no need for all that hassle. As the caveat with slower shutters is some stabilisation is required, either a tripod or a good handhold so as to increase shutter 2-4x longer.

So the question i wonder about is when TO and when NOT to use HDR+ ?

Usually i cringe when i see HDR used because it produces surreal, unnatural shots but these look like how i would like to see HDR being used, they are quite realistic and i would imagine quite close reproductions of the actual scenes.

Yes the thrid image had the most light and the one with the cheese shots had the lowest. The noise is pretty low in all these shots meaning some cleaning has been done but details are still apparent, not seeing too much watercolours or smearing. Histograms look ok for the light levels. These images are acceptable for point & shoot.

These images look like ISO 600 - 800 with other brands for similar noise levels.
[Nexus 6  General] fethi2:
cheers...
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
Yep. HDR +

I've been mainly using the HDR + function in low light. I'll try the same kinds of shots tonight without it to see how it goes.

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Don't know if you're familiar with the painter Jamie Wyeth. We did a show of his at my museum a few years back called 7 Deadly Sins. He loves to paint Seagulls out on the Maine shore or on the Islands of Penobscot Bay.

Here's a link. http://farnsworthmuseum.org/exhibition/jamie-wyeth-seven-deadly-sins
[Nexus 6  General] born_fisherman:
Different bird pic.. Just point and shoot stock cam, kinda cloudy out today at the zoo
[Nexus 6  General] One Twelve:
Now i understand why this image turned out ok, its HDR+ too.

Its more tricky to compare nexus devices with HDR+ against other models that do not have HDR+.

If the others produce better images could a way be found to match or do better on the nexus.

HDR+ is similar to samsungs auto night mode. Some secret recipe going on there under the hood. Unconventional.

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Won't be as good as HDR+ in low light unless you can slow the shutter down further to use a lower ISO . Not with google camera. maybe with L camera.
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
Tried to reproduce the shot. Less light than last night. No lights on except for the candle. Took these with L-camera. First one 1600 iso second 800 iso.

[IMG="1600 iso"]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-VuKUG5cfYaw/VJ4ay55gHuI/AAAAAAAAAvM/vhR-pmxp8E4/w702-h532-no/IMG_20141226_212649.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="800 iso"]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-r8uPsl5CjEM/VJ4az7KyV5I/AAAAAAAAAvM/BjChXC-EkHw/w702-h516-no/IMG_20141226_212634.jpg[/IMG]
[Nexus 6  General] One Twelve:
ok, now these are what one expects at ISO 800, much more grain. But I believe better is possible.

Exifs say first is ISO 800 not 1600.

ISO 800, 1/8

ISO 800, 1/15

Clearly the second is worse as it got half as much light. Yet in both you cannot make out the shelf to the left as with the HDR+ below.

Try ISO 400 with 1/4+ or ISO 200 with 1/2+ or even ISO 100 with 1s+ (needs a tripod) ie lower ISO than 800 and longer shutter than 1/8

whether it will be better than HDR+ or not.
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
BTW FV-5 is now working beautifully since last update. Change P to S and you can set shutter speed and ISO once again. Save in Raw if need be. Lovely.
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
Both ended up very red. Please note, I don't have a tripod for this thing, but I have pretty steady hands... so it might be a tad blurry. First one is L Camera slowest aperture 1.1/2 and 200 iso

[IMG="L Camera Lowest Setting 200 iso"]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5XyQlZbPo60/VJ8yqVOay2I/AAAAAAAAAwM/rMuBOE0J8oo/w702-h527-no/IMG_20141227_171947.jpg[/IMG]

Second shot is camera FV-5 which allowed for a longer aperture: 0.5" 0.6" also at 200 iso

[IMG="FV-5 200 iso"]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XGfqSGoBfRc/VJ8ys4N4coI/AAAAAAAAAwE/5yYHI3iJci8/w702-h527-no/DSC_0011.JPG[/IMG]

Here's the raw image from Camera FV-5 edited a tad to get the white balance a little more palatable.

[IMG="FV-5 edited from Raw"]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pFPzS4prQHo/VJ81vLZyvHI/AAAAAAAAAw0/cRSmHt0djj4/w701-h486-no/DSC_0011fromRaw.jpg[/IMG]
[Nexus 6  General] Wuslandi:
With HDR+, this camera takes really nice pictures at night
[Nexus 6  General] One Twelve:
It's not blurry and you certainly have pretty steady hands. Good job.

Shows up as ISO 200, 0.8s

What's odd is it appears darker than the faster shutter below.

ISO 200, 0.5s

I don't understand how you can change the aperture, as I thought it was fixed to F2.0.

Something isn't right with this image as it has more noise than the jpeg. You will see it at 1:1 when compared with the previous shot.

Which raw processor did you use to process the DNG ?
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
My apologies. I meant shutter speed, not aperture. I used photoshop for the DNG. I probably did a hack job and screwed up the picture. This is why they have schools for these things... :)
[Nexus 6  General] hoffreaper:
Some great low light photos using default camera app at Winterfest at Navy Pier in Chicago.
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
shot blindly(sun blind) from my parents balcany. Coney Island, NYC.
[Nexus 6  General] alnova1:
Pic taken with HDR+. It was actually much darker than the pic really looks. I'm not disappointed in the camera so far at all.
[Nexus 6  General] RCDuke:
First photo with my new N6. I think the camera is world's better than the N4.
[Nexus 6  General] One Twelve:
Could you upload the original RAW file produced by FV5 some where ?

Not clear as yet where along the process the noise got introduced. i don't think your image adjustments per se caused it. And this image is ISO 200.

Its either at the FV-5 stage, the import into PS stage or the final export to jpeg stage. It may be as simple as throwing a switch some where. Assuming no bugs introduced in the preliminary stages, might have to apply your own noise reduction as this is a raw capture off the sensor. Have to wing it. In which case then its just that last stage of noise reduction that is to be applied.

There is a learning curve with RAW, its new territory :)
[Nexus 6  General] Pulsu:
Here's couple from today.. HDR+ no edits.
[Nexus 6  General] stebomurkn420:
Happy birthday to me... Lol
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
Here's a link to the RAW file. Only difference with the jpg is it's been cropped.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hkjiu4k4v5fy8o7/DSC_0011.DNG?dl=0
[Nexus 6  General] BigDig:
The camera is great! Some people need to learn how to use it....
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
Agreed. Nice shots!
[Nexus 6  General] Wiley_11:
Looks like your cake's been swimming in a chlorine pool! :D
[Nexus 6  General] rufflez2010:
[IMG="First Photo Nexus 6"]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-iYRwN1uRyLg/VJDkPeXkOqI/AAAAAAABVac/CqBUdCiFnkE/w1198-h889-no/IMG_20141216_210143.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="In the middle of my run."]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-hrcaMf_vzKY/VJHIK6lkiwI/AAAAAAABSi0/xDppm8GMlWo/w1198-h889-no/IMG_20141217_131323.jpg[/IMG]

To be honest I haven't used the camera that much. I had my Note II for the last time I took a bunch of pics, which was at a wedding.
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
My cat clearly has something on her mind...
[Nexus 6  General] One Twelve:
I think i figured out what was missing in your raw conversion, you did not remove luminance noise in ACR.

There's two question that remain to be answered.

- Can RAW do better than default jpg

- Can manual beat HDR+
[Nexus 6  General] LeoRex:
This was basically me seeing what HDR+ will do looking at the big ball o' fire in the sky. Didn't do too bad.
[Nexus 6  General] One Twelve:
This is exactly the situation that HDR+ works. When lighting is unbalanced.

Here are a pair of shots from a

review

of the Nexus 6 camera. [Credits: AndroidAnydyUK]

Without HDR+

With HDR+

The differences are subtle but apparent. On further zooming, finer details are preserved in the non HDR+ shot but exposure is better with HDR+. Also the branches on trees further away are much more prominent in the HDR+ than non-HDR+. Improving exposure results in a slight loss of detail which is only apparent at 100% zoom provided you have a non-HDR+ shot to compare with.

Which shot to go with ? hehe

Traditionally ie without HDR+ which is every other camera besides nexus, one would expose for the foreground and fix the blown sky in post.
[Nexus 6  General] swhtownboy:
PS4 controller light bar, no flash, HDR on, stock app. Not bad at all.
[Nexus 6  General] KB112:
Bodega Bay earlier today.
[Nexus 6  General] gogol:
Anyone is using Camera Fv-5?

When I compare with the stock camera app, the flash of the Camera Fv-5 is weaker.

Setting of Camera-Fv-5: P mode, using flash

Setting of stock camera app: using flash

Yours too?
[Nexus 6  General] chrisch91:
My best shots right now.
[Nexus 6  General] dex2grigg:
Nice to see you here Simms! Just got nexus 6 :) here's a couple of quick ones in Bournemouth, south England after ice skating..
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
Yep. Same here. I try never to use a flash, so I hadn't noticed.
[Nexus 6  General] gogol:
Thanks for the report. Me too, I don't like flash, but I was testing it to compare with the stock camera. I think Camera fv 5 takes a bit better photo, on a bit higher iso.

I have 2 shortcuts on my home screen now. Stock camera with hdr+ enabled, and Camera fv 5.
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
View from my YMCA

View from the rowing machine at the top of my workout:

[IMG="From rowing machine"]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PDzeg7KHVPw/VKRp4GevhqI/AAAAAAAAAy0/Ppqkc4MMsHc/w702-h521-no/IMG_20141231_152534.jpg[/IMG]

and at the end of the workout...

[IMG="End of workout"]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Nf9m74nDJB4/VKRp6MZcDLI/AAAAAAAAAys/kozngjlpaBc/w702-h521-no/IMG_20141231_155931.jpg[/IMG]
[Nexus 6  General] soulreaver99:
Just got mine today! Cat pictures were taken with sunlight shining directly on her. I'll post more photos later on...

2014-12-31 13.22.00

2014-12-31 13.22.18

2014-12-31 13.37.32
[Nexus 6  General] venturizhou:
Just wanted to see how camera was average use wise. Just HDR+, didn't bother setting up shot just focused and clicked.
[Nexus 6  General] Mahapederdon:
I took a video and this camera seems pretty decent. It's 13 seconds of my 8yr old taking a jump on his dirt bike.

http://youtu.be/aUPUu_JI8aM
[Nexus 6  General] wazza1991:
I have a problem. When I take a picture from the stock camera app and swipe from there to view the pic when I zoom in the pic is very clear but when I go to the photos app and view the same pic its not at all clear after zooming in. Anyone else noticed that?
[Nexus 6  General] Mahapederdon:
Sweet.
[Nexus 6  General] NexusHexus:
Yeah I noticed something similar with a wallpaper pic with text on it. The wallpaper was 4000x3000 or something, text was small but zoomed in on the laptop, crystal clear. In the photos app> my device. It looked like low res writing on the same zoom. and illegible. I initially though the Photos app compressed the pic, but no, was still the same 3.6mb. It's obviously not showing pics at full res, probably googles way of making it run smooth on all phones for this app. Not ideal when you have a 1440p screen
[Nexus 6  General] wazza1991:
Exactly. What's the point of having a 13mp camera when the photos are not displayed in full quality.
[Nexus 6  General] Inferis:
One really big and strong point is that when you are old and want to see photos from 2015 you WILL have a display with great resolution. Then you will be thankfull for not taking pictures with 1K back in those days.
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
Ice on the harbor

Startin' to form...

[IMG="Harbor Ice"]http://i.imgur.com/U2DDDpx.jpg[/IMG]
[Nexus 6  General] Inferis:
The newest girl in my life.
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
What a beauty!
[Nexus 6  General] dex2grigg:
I like a bold *****
[Nexus 6  General] jaggrey:
Has anyone had the issue in low light with getting halos in the photo when using the flash? I thought it was the case but it happens even when there's no case.
[Nexus 6  General] Pilz:
No light other than the fish tank and the tree with HDR+ (taken at my wife's parents house)
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
I hardly ever use the flash as HDR+ ends up taking better shots in low light. Here are two taken tonight at my wife's birthday dinner. Both of these shots only had one candle on the table. Pretty dim lighting. The first is HDR + (great dessert by the way!) the second is with a flash (Duck breast was outstanding!)

[IMG="Low Light HDR+"]http://i.imgur.com/mycyx56.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="Low light flash"]http://i.imgur.com/WYNgNpm.jpg[/IMG]
[Nexus 6  General] jaggrey:
I have noticed that HDR does a pretty good job in lower light. I was just wondering if those halos were normal.
[Nexus 6  General] soulreaver99:
Lily Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] Stolly08:
Took a few the other morning of a sunrise that's totally awesome!
[Nexus 6  General] SP_Kenny:
Nice Pictures!!!

Taken from the front of a moving train none the less :good:
[Nexus 6  General] John Kotches:
This was a quick snapshot ; it is meh at best but more than likely an issue with the photographer ;)

You can see the smoke detector on the ceiling around mid frame and the outline of the nexus 6 on the note 2 body at the bottom of the frame.
[Nexus 6  General] Anlupa:
A few pictures taken last week
[Nexus 6  General] jason504:
I like the pictures my nexus 6 takes. If you want better than that buy a dam camera!
[Nexus 6  General] CmTiger:
they look good i must say - but other devices have better
[Nexus 6  General] NICEGYPT:
[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] here you go :) I just got my micro lens. It's not a nice shot I just took them on the go. I have took a pic of the word child's on a paper and attached the original as well :)
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
nice..

its too bad i cant find a place that sells them around me anywhere. i want to see and compare before buying. or need to find a really good lens, and make my own again :)
[Nexus 6  General] das boot:
Correct...those devices are called a Dslr
[Nexus 6  General] NICEGYPT:
To be honest I got this thing off eBay for $7 :) cheap ones but it works perfect and the lens are glass
[Nexus 6  General] XxKINGxX2580:
New World Trade Center from a New Years trip to NYC
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
a few from today..
[Nexus 6  General] soulreaver99:
More pics taken with the Nexus 6. In many ways, the camera is up there with the iPhone 6/Plus. Wish the camera software was just as intuitive. The Nexus 6 camera overall does a good job and is consistent, unlike the Xperia Z models which have disappointed me each time!

Turkey Milanese Nexus 6

Outside the office window Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] Peylix:
[IMG="HDR semi lowlight"]http://i.imgur.com/4rIHCyK.jpg[/IMG]

Semi lowlight HDR of a gift my fiance made me. Was darker IRL but HDR brightened it up quite a bit.
[Nexus 6  General] Anlupa:
A few today, Retiro park, Madrid

https://plus.google.com/photos/113116640061243406292/albums/6104258094726525761
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
Some things are pretty by the light of the moon.
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
a rose is a rose is a rose..
[Nexus 6  General] rayosx:
Very nice shot :)
[Nexus 6  General] Pilz:
Thank you, I have some more that I need to post. I will probably put them up shortly.
[Nexus 6  General] morbital:
Great camera!
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
Beautiful country you live in. Gorgeous shot.
[Nexus 6  General] danarama:
Not exciting. Just a snap to describe my outing on Facebook. First normal photo I've taken with the nexus 6. Came out crisp and had nice colour reproduction on the limited colour. I especially like how it compensated for the amount of white in the frame well and didn't try to make everything grey. Used HDR+
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
odd, i dont see your img here, but can open your dropbox link and look at it.

edit.. ok, so i opened your dropbox link, then opened the image in another window and got another link. so, here is your image.. :)
[Nexus 6  General] danarama:
The problem which I didn't realise is that the Dropbox app gives you a different link than the Dropbox site. I'll remember that in future. Luckily I figured it out quite quickly
[Nexus 6  General] Peylix:
Snapped a HDR of my buddies extremely photogenic Bengal.

I laugh at those who think this camera sucks. They just don't know how to use one.

[IMG="Pepper the photogenic Bengal."]http://i.imgur.com/D7W7i67.jpg[/IMG]
[Nexus 6  General] 123noob:
That's really nice shot! I noticed the N6 camera is really good, but hard to use. But if you do get it to work just right, the pic will turn out really nice!
[Nexus 6  General] Takuapina:
Definitely the nexus 6 has quite a good camera, yet one need to know how to take photos properly;)
[Nexus 6  General] Peylix:
Well... yeah. You can go buy the most expensive DSLR money can buy and still take pictures that look like a 10 year old webcam still shot.

If you have even the basic knowledge in lighting and composition, you can turn an otherwise "bad" camera into an impressive one.

People just get lazy and expect the hardware and software to do everything for them these days. lol
[Nexus 6  General] dodgebizkit:
-----------------------<SiG>-------------------

My house phone is better than your iPhone.
[Nexus 6  General] ggmask:
An early foggy morning