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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
thats a very noble thought..:good:

I do both!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Max_Pain:
I like what it can do, but don't like how big it looks. I guess I'm staying with my Moto 360 for now. I might give the ZenWatch a try when I can check it out in person.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
how do you like the moto 360?

I returned my samsung gear 2 neo today, because I dont want to be locked into Samsung/Touchwiz for a couple of years, and the android watches obviously work with any android phone..

I really like the lg g Watch R too...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
That's nice to do... One of the main things the Gear S does it allows you to not have to carry your phone. At times I don't want to carry my phablet.

Gear S looks big but doesn't feel big because of the curved screen. imo I think the 360 and LG G Watch R look pretty big too.

Who keeps any gadget for over year? lol I don't care for the LG G watch R at all but that's just me.

This guy likes the LG G watch which is the older LG more then the new LG R watch. Very nice review. imo

LG G WATCH R – FIRST AND LAST IMPRESSIONS

https://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/2014/11/21/lg-g-watch-r-first-impressions/

SAMSUNG GEAR S – SMARTWATCH THAT MAKES CALLS – MASTER 9 PART REVIEW

https://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com...twatch-that-makes-calls-master-9-part-review/
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] bzd0730:
Cool
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
of course you would like it better, it justifies your purchase! :cool::cool:

I just dont want to be locked into the samsung infrastructure, plus, I doubt any of the samsung smart watches will work once CM/AOSP roms come out; I'm not sure the Android watches will either, so I have to look into that..

EDIT: Confirmed that Android wear watches will work on AOSP/CM roms, if anyone wanted to know; we know that samsung gear watches will not...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Max_Pain:
I bought it because I thought then, and still think now, that it's the best looking smart watch, combining smart watch functionality with a design aesthetic that still looks like a watch. The LG Watch R is close, but it's much more of a sports watch, much bulkier and less refined looking than the Moto 360. And also has a smaller screen. But don't let anyone tell you the Moto360 is perfect. It's got a few shortcomings and it's obviously not nearly as advanced as some choices, like the Gear S.

My recommendation would be: do you want mainly a watch with some smart features? Get the Moto360. Do you want mainly a smart gadget that can tell you the time? Get the Samsung Gear S (or just use your phone).
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
Locked into Samsung? Like I said most of us don't keeps phones/gadgets that long. I think the Gear S is ahead of it's time and will keep it's value. I'll use the Note 4 and Gear S for a little while then Jump to the next best thing. I use to be flash whore with my phones but not anymore. I might get back into but at times it can be more hassle then what it's worth plus time consuming. imo Stock just works fine for me. Same goes for a watch.

You think the LG Watch R is better looking then the Gears S? I think the Gear S band could be better but for the most part I think the watch looks classy unlike the LG Watch R. I know it's a subjective thing though.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nano303:
Hey dude was thinking about the gear S...I loved making calls and sending texts straight from the watch I thought that the gear 1 was bad ass because it could do just that. Now it has its own SIM...wifi and bluetooth...only 100 more. Thinking about jumping ship not like the other smartwatxhes even have speakers. How am I supposed to get the weather like "ok google" it'll just show me...the gear s obviously had its own speaker and such...big question is, how did you finance it and it they're enough apps for this thing? I knows it's baby change compare to android wears apps. But still interested. Thanks!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
It comes with a weather app. I just financed it at T-Mobile like you can with a phone. If you have service with them you get a $10 credit and pay $5 for the new line. If I keep the watch I'll just pay it off in a month or two. Not a lot of apps like Android wear and I know not that many free ones but they just cost a few bucks. I think with a little time more apps will come out. I doubt I will put that many apps on mine only 4GB storage. The battery charging dock is cool in a way since it has a battery inside so you can take it with you. It's just not really easy snapping on or I just haven't figured the way yet. Wish it had wireless charging. lol Hard to judge the battery life since I'm messing with more then normal use but it's not bad.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
I read they came out with a wifi model in Japan
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
US Gear S has WiFi. Here are the specs.

http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/gears/gears_specs.html
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] cyanogen_patrick:
Not mah. I have the Note 4 though.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
thanks!

I think the model in Japan does not require a cell phone plan to work, but I might be wrong..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
I don't think I said this but with T-Mobile it cost 15/mo for the plan/line. If you already have a line with them then you get a 10 bill credit so it's 5/mo. I saw that you can get Samsung Gear to work on a non Samsung phone so that's nice. Not sure how hard and how well that works though. I have til Dec 10th to make up my mind if I'll keep mine.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] cyanogen_patrick:
I had the Gear 2 Neo, but I decided it was a waste of money, so I returned it. I believe if you return it you get paid the monthly fee for only the month you bought it in, then everything is normal again. :cool:

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They do?? Cool. :cowboy:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
i returned my gear 2 neo also..I like the gear S, but I dont want to be locked into a samsung phone/touch wiz rom, so I may go android wear..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] cyanogen_patrick:
Hey, speaking of price, T-Mobile is having a sale on the Gear S ALREADY! I just checked like yesterday. Try jumping for that one, I guess. :cyclops:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
I dont see anything about a sale; they actually show it out of stock
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
Let me know what the discount is. I have til the 10th so should be able to get a credit or return it. Lol. No restocking fee since I ordered it.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
unless I am blind, I dont see a sale anywhere bro..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
I figured I would ask him. I know the LG watch R has a promo code that will save some money. Maybe that's it.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
that promo code was BS...never worked, and tmobile doesnt know anything about it
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
Really. Why would that be made up? I don't get it.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
who knows; it was a 20 year old blogger kid from England, if that tells you something...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
I was told that the LG watch promo worked for a few hrs. Not sure though.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] dkb218:
Was gonna order one from T-Mobile but it's out of stock,. My original Gear is on it's last leg.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] bradbutter:
got mine and i love it .. im contemplating gettting the Gear Circle headphones to i can be samsunged out lol
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] ThC23:
Can you answer calls and talk on it?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
Ummm yes. That's the main feature. It has a sim card and you get a different number with it. Guess you might be able to somehow get your number.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] kronium:
You can also answer calls from your phone sitting in your pocket, you don't need a separate plan. That's what I do with my Gear 2. You don't even have to touch your watch, you just say "Answer". This feature alone is worth buying, so many times I've been working in the yard, on my car, or washing dishes, and the phone rings. No problem. lol.

Android Wear has way more apps and is supported 10 times better than Tizen. The Tizen approval process for apps is notoriously slow, and Samsung doesn't push out firmware updates very often. But Phonecalls, a speaker, and battery life is why I'm still with Samsung.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
Yea it's nice for that. I like the standalone option. At times I don't want to carry my Note 4. Plus if my phone died or I forgot it I can use my watch as a phone. $5 is worth it to me. Now I think Sprint and AT&T charge more for the plan then T-Mobile and surprisingly Verizon.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pierrekid:
Moto 360 with the note 4 is the better combination. I need a watch that looks like a watch. I love Samsung, but their watches are just plain ugly
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nano303:
Ohhhhhh snaaaap!!!!....

Lol jk
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
yeah, the moto 360 looks more like a "conventional" watch, but after getting one the other day, and having a Samsung Gear 2 Neo before it, imo, the samsung watches do so much more than the Android wear ones do. If you only want a conventional looking watch that has some smart features, then Android Wear is probably what you will prefer.

gonna go try out the Gear 2 tomorrow, if my local t mobile store has one to play with..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] kronium:
I had a Moto 360 and I returned it. The Gear is more functional and has a speaker. I don't understand why Google doesn't include a speaker in their Android Wear vision.

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Do you have the Gear S number routed through Google Voice or something? I don't know if I can deal with two separate numbers. How did you set up your contacts?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
Looks are subjective. Personally I wouldn't feel the need to say what you said but that's just me. I guess it makes some feel better with the purchase they make. I just let people enjoy what they like. I don't care for the looks of the LG watches but I'm not going to find a thread and say that. LoL. I was going to get the 360 but decided I wanted the Gear S because it has more features. Plus I like the big curved screen and I think the Gear S is just as classy as the 360. Imo. Ugly or not props to Samsung for designing a watch that is different and that can make calls.

Yes you get a Gear S number through your carrier which is why you need another line/plan. When your phone is away from your watch calls, texts, emails and voice mails will be forwarded to your watch. The number has the same area code and friends of mine already have saved the number so no big deal.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
so, when you are within Bluetooth range, your cell phone number rings on your watch, and when you leave your phone at home, and are out and about, the "watch phone number" rings on your watch?

Or,can you set it up so your cell phone number rings your watch all the time, no matter how far away from your cell phone you are?

I assume if you leave your cell phone at home, and are out and about, your outgoing calls from the watch would use the watch's phone number..

thanks
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
I'm pretty sure your calls forwarded to your watch when your away from your phone is your phones number. When you call out from your watch it's your Gear number. I've only tested it a few times but read that it's a little buggy but should be fixed with a software update. Your watch will say it's not longer connected to bluetooth and then say call forward on your watch plus a symbol on it. I think you can set call forwarding on you phone or from the Gear. Not sure if one is better. I think with the phone you have to set it every time and the watch does it automatically.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pierrekid:
Speaker means nothing for most people that wear watches. There is nothing i could seriously listen too that I would need to pull my wrist up to my ear. I need a watch that simply gives me my notifications on the fly. When you start adding in speakers, flashlights, cameras....then it just becomes stupid IMO.

The one thing I love is the fact that in my daily job no onr notices it's a smart watch until I receive a notification or I ask google for something. The moto 360 functions so simplistically because is looks so much like a watch. 90%watch, 10%smart features. When I'm with clients, flying on a plane, in a business meeting or giving speeches the last thing I need is a more then subtle notification. The fact that I could be with a client and know I missed 3 texts, an important email and one phone call without the client ever noticing is just perfect.

Again I'm not here to knock Samsung because I obviously love the majority of their products. But Motorola, a company that has repeatedly dropped the ball on its product lines, actually got something damn near perfect with its watch.

If your purpose is to have everything and the kitchen sink on your wrist then thats your choice. If your purpose is to have people notice that you have a smart watch on due to 1. its look and 2. more than subtle notifications then maybe samsung is for you. However if you are apart of the general population ( I stress general) and want a watch that looks and functions as exactly that, a watch, then the moto is by far the better option.

Plus be honest with yourself, do you really think you will go anywhere WITHOUT your phone? If so then please disregard my post.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
here is the video that explains how to use the watch without a samsung phone!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQWuCf_jQqk

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I rarely forget to take my phone with me, but If I had the Gear S, I would leave my phone home ALOT more; especially, in the summer, wearing shorts, it would be nice not to have the large Note 4 pulling on my shorts, or worried about it falling out of my pocket.

But, you hit it right on the head when you said, "to each, his own"..Everyone likes something different..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
You can use the Samsung Gear Circle stereo bluetooth headset with the Gear S. So you don't have to talk to your wrist. Lol. Think any bluetooth headset will work. I used my watch to call family that wasn't at Thanksgiving yesterday so we all could talk. They were wowed by it. LoL. I was wearing sweats yesterday so I could eat more. haha My Note 4 can fall out so it was nice that I could leave my phone in a safe place and still get calls and notifications on my wrist. Now I won't have to carry my phablet when I go to the pool, working out, mountain biking and playing with my sisters kids.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
well, I went to t mobile today to check it out, and, its actually very nice; very light, the curve matches your wrist nicely, so it doesnt feel as bulky as it looks in pictures. Didn't pull the trigger yet, but I am def taking my Moto 360 back tomorrow. Its a nice looking "watch", but it really doesn't "do" enough for me to want to keep it long term..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] flipq88:
I bought an Att one for $300 on ebay. I have no need for it to have it's own number. I just wanted it as an accessory to my phone like my gear 2 was. So far really digging it. And for the dude that was saying a speaker is stupid, that's the only reason I didn't get an Android wear watch. I like the fact that I can answer calls and talk thru the watch. Very convenient at times.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] carandcar:
Can someone speak about its wearability (I think that's a word)? It looks a little big and I would be concerned about it being banged around with normal wear. Even my nice watches take a few hits from time to time.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] kronium:
A lot of Google Now revolves around voice output. Not having to look at your watch while you ask a question and receive an answer is something you can't do on Android Wear. I originally thought that making and receiving phone calls on my watch would be a gimmick, but it is my favorite feature of the Gear.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pierrekid:
Lol are you serious?

To each their own. If you find that looking at your watch is to difficult a task, maybe you a shouldn't be wearing a watch in the first place. I personally see no point in listening to your watch. And if I actually wanted to hear anything I would use a bluetooth headset. Sorry but that's not a convincing point for me. The point of android wear is to be subtle. The gear is clearly trying to mimic a phone. I don't need a second phone, just a compliment to the one I have.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
As I said in my first post the Gear S looks big but doesn't feel big on your wrist. If you don't have tiny wrists the Gear S should be fine. I was told if you buy the Gear S online then you don't have to pay a restocking fee. I went into a tmobile store and had them order it for me and the manager gave me a 25 credit for overnight shipping. So pretty sure it's free to try out if you order the Gear S but if you buy it from a tmobile store I guess the restocking fee is 75 bucks. Oh and maybe get a screen protector just to be safe.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] kronium:
Yes, to each their own. I have owned both platforms, and the Gear to me is more useful then the 360 by a large margin. A large part of that is functionality that the speaker provides. You really have to live with it to appreciate it.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] paesan:
I got this over the weekend and so far it seems like a keeper. It does not look or feel big on my wrist. I have been waiting for a watch that has the ability to make calls and this is it. I do a lot of long distance bicycle riding and this is perfect for riding. I don't have to carry my Note 4 with me. Making calls from the watch will show the watch phone number when call forwarding is off. The speaker on the watch far exceeds what I expected, it is very clear and loud. When making a call on the watch you don't have to keep the phone next to your ear to talk. I was able to keep my hand down by my side and the other person had no problems hearing me, even with my sleeve over the watch. I have the LG and Jaybird X bluetooth headphones and both pair/connect without any issues. I have not had it long enough to adequately judge the battery life but it seems pretty good. The only minus right now is the amount of apps that are available but this should hopefully increase as time goes by. With that said I am still not sure if I will keep it due to the price. Add up the cost of the Note 4 and the Gear S and it is whopping $1100. That is a lot of cash to put out.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
I look at it this you gots to pay to play. LoL. Well I have Jump so that helps keep cost down with being a phone junkie. I'm thinking I could always sell my Gear S say 3 months from now if I wasn't using it that much. Would take a little loss but still get a decent amount for it. It would be nice if the watch was a little cheaper. I see that the LG G watch is only 79 with a 50 play store credit. I don't care for that watch though.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] MrAwesome75:
I got the Gear S a week ago. In my opinion, the thing that is the most lacking in this watch is the inability to access some of the Google features and services. If I was able to do Google searches from the watch and respond to Hangouts and Gmail from the watch, it would be near perfect.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] chadwick84:
Gear S without Sim

Anyone got the Gear S without the Sim? My wife likes the look of the S but I don't want to pay for a subscription. Anyone use it as a tether only device? If so, how does it work as a tether device making calls, texting etc. She has a note 4 and can stomach touchwiz (I can't so much) so Tizen might work for her for a couple of years but I don't see a future with it. Any thoughts?

I think a Nexus 6 with a Moto 360 or Asus Zen is a better combination.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
Two apps can reply to hangouts and Gmail. Notifications for Gear S and Gear Notification Extender. Not the same as a phone reply but it's something.

Today is the last day for me to return my Gear S. My main issue is call forwarding sometimes it doesn't work. The smartwatch has potential but might have been rushed out so it's a little buggy. The design is what I really like it. The watch has a nice big screen but doesn't that big on your wrist. I think that will be hard to beat with other watches.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] MrAwesome75:
I did find an app for hangouts. Now I just need to find a way to do Google search, but that part isn't a deal breaker for me.

I think the watch will get better over time. I'm going to keep mine because anything wrong with it at this point is all fixable with software. I also have T Mobile so when the Gear S 2 comes out in a year or something else better, I can just jump to that.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
That's the thing by the time a Gear S update comes out the Gears S 2 might be out. lol If development was good I might not care as much.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] michaelgalindez11:
nice...i think i know what to buy for myself this christmas...lol.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] karri.prakash.12:
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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] headshrinker139:
Looks good. I'm thinking of getting one.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] youngblood68:
The abet smartwatch out there .only thing it's not enough apps to be able to use it with .me personally wish I could answer hangouts whatsapp and Facebook chat .I also have the nite 4 .and a smaller screen on the gear s would just look stupid .ones you have the gear s you don't want any other smartwatch .this give the wow feeling .turn heads around .you feel like a Boss lol.

Other smartwatch peaolw don't see it .just .that's a nice watch haha I can as well highly recommend the app look behind. ..peace out
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Nevell:
I love it I just need a bigger band. Thing is snug
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sweets55:
Get Notifications Gear S in the xda Gear S apps section. Notifications Gear S kind of the same thing and is in the play store.

I'm a little bummed I returned my Gear S yesterday. It just seems buggy to me and didn't want to wait on a software update. Maybe if it was a little cheaper I might have waited it out. Also would like social apps like you said and some development. The watch is very nice and has potential but seems like it might have been rushed out for the holidays. imo I might get it again at some point or just wait for the next one. Then again I'm not even sure smartwatches are for me. It's been years since I used a watch so it was a little hard to get use to the size of the Gear S or maybe I just didn't like the band since it seemed like maybe I was in-between notch sizes. One was a little a big and the other tight.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] youngblood68:
Well then .it's just NOT for you reading what you saying lol....for sure gear s 2 will be the bomb but big screen is the way to go . If you don't like ote series then again the gear is not for you :)