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[Galaxy Grand Duos i9082 Android Development] Mr. 23:
Hey [MENTION=5216756]jackeagle[/MENTION],

Congrats man ! (Y)
[Galaxy Grand Duos i9082 Android Development] activegiri:
Email app missing....gr8 rom, running smooth
[Galaxy Grand Duos i9082 Android Development] Zephyr!:
Bugs same is of pawitp builds? Downloading stops when lock screen off?
[Galaxy Grand Duos i9082 Android Development] jackeagle:
Yes Bugs will be same has pawitp has Device tree is form CM :)

Flash Gapps :)

Factory Reset Wip Cache and Then Install The Rom Let it Boot then flash gapps :)

You will not get features in any Rom Right now No Rom Will Add Features Right Now has all are based on CM12 and AOSP So Until Source gets stable no features will be there but yes in mean time with patches some small features too may be added :)
[Galaxy Grand Duos i9082 Android Development] eltonpestana:
hi

I install the rom and working very well but my only problem is on Whatsapp voice recording ta funny :cyclops::cyclops::cyclops: as I do the voice is thin and fast

someone help :(
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
HELLO ALL,

The OTA 4.1.1 & later 4.5.1 was pushed to Apollo & Saturn (NEW GEN HDX 8.9") Devices adding firefly functionality along with other functionality (WHICH ARE CRAP ACCORDING TO ME)

So in order to get the device back to JB ie.. 3.X version Contact amazon customer services and Say that the Kindle is not working properly after the updates & roll back to the 3.x version.

have the device fullly charged 80% or more and they will initiate a Rollback.

Remember the device will never Get any OTA after this !!

Also it would be a lot lot helpful if some one can locate the ota file downloaded (via ES file explorer) so that we can copy it & share on XDA & help other fellow men.

Also I'd request you to contact Amazon via Phone for Source Code & bootloader info & get the call escalated to higher officials so that there are possibilities of getting info.

I'd request all the devs & members to file a petition (Change.org) with regards to the bootloader and simultaneously work on development

All active members & Ashamed owners of HDX's (Ashamed because with marvellous hardware we have a Crappy OS) include or add devs in this sections via PM or replies so that they can look over this & find a solution soon.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Also I'm thinking that a manual roll back can be done but it needs testing & i need some help in that as well

I believe all the magic is with build.prop & ota.prop that checks the versions.

Interested members can carry on the work here and update the results as well

In the mean time any suggestions are also appreciated
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] ONYXis:
Anyone who will do the rollback, please root device and place file /cache/recovery/last.log (something like that) here.

Thank you.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
What will that have?

Give as much as info possible please.

Another observation : As manual update via bin file can be done on Kindle, I opened the file via WinRar & was able to see contesnts as a Zip File so why cant we add su and required root files then update kindle ???

As far as the bin file check is concerned..build.prop edit will work
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] ONYXis:
This give to us name and location of rollback file and some other information about upgrade (downgrade) process.

It is necessary to start somewhere...

About your observation - we can''t flash modified bin in any way.

Btw during upgrade latest firmwares check not only build.prop but keys that located in system recovery. So modifying build.prop is not enough.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Well thanks a lot for the info mate I didn't knew that!!

Just for curiosity how will that file lead. Just need more info about it... I might get that file to you and will that file be even after s factory reset is performed?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Do you have a HDX?

Which one n will there be any problem if I get thor's file? Does it need to be specific?

Can get the file n other stuff within 2 days to you..

Let me also know about keys n. Bin stuff... Atleast point me to some info thread I'll read...

btw a rollback editing bin file worked! I tried to do the same but on 4.5 os now

Any one on 4.3 can try opening 4.5.bin file adding root and then updating...may b can try atleast!?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] ONYXis:
rollback file is "mod-update-kindle-thor-13.3.2.6_user_713326020.bin"

it is all I know at this moment.

And "NO" again, every editing of original bin corrupts CRC, and file do not pass checking. Do not waste the time. Do you think that no one tried for a year to do it?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] maxster95:
Sorry if this is a dumb question but has anyone tried calling the support and asking them to rollback and had success? I just want to make sure that they will do it before I try it
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] ONYXis:
Yes. Guy from my russian forum successfully rolled back after contacting support. So it possible. And he sent me logs of this downgrade in which I saw name of rollback-file - mod-update-kindle-thor-13.3.2.6_user_713326020.bin
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Got the Kindle on 14.3.2.7_user_372002520

Unable to root it ! ADB doesn't recognizes device anymore....

I was curious on .bin mod. (Yes i can imagine people trying to edit .bin but i needed an explanation thats it.....)

Now let me know what next !!! ??

How do i proceed ??
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Tell me if they deny !!!! :p:p:D

They will surely !!! No questions asked !
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] sthoeft:
HELP.

Can anyone explain me how to downgrade? I got the update-kindle-13.4.1.1_user_411010320.bin and update-kindle-13.3.2.5_user_325001120.bin. But when I try to flash the rom the mentioned way it sais that it isn't possible because there is a newer rom installed. how can I circumvent this problem? Any ideas?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] ONYXis:
You need to contact Customer Support.

At this moment only they can initiate downgrade.

BTW be careful. Maybe now downgradable version is 13.3.2.7 and its not rootable. But I'm not sure.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Rooting works !
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] BenDroid1:
yesss I did it!

I did it ! ish :/

With good acting i made up some drama and called support and had them roll me back to OS 4.1.1 B] like a boss

now what shoud i do or edit ...am not familiar with the Bin file language or the kindle fire :/

standard AOSP :)
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] EncryptedCurse:
What are you looking for exactly?

There's really nothing you can do with 4.1.1 — rooting, custom ROMs, etc. require you be on 14/13.3.2.6 or lower.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] d0kth0r:
Okay, why is that? Is there more information on that? I also read a response from the Amazon support posted on another (German) board which warned about the same thing and that further updates might require help from customer support.... I just don't understand why you loose OTA capability? Even if it doesn't update automatically (which most people prefer a anyway, I guess), wouldn't you be able to just initiate an OTA by clicking on it in system preferences ?

Thanks!
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] kerplukz:
Gave it a go, here is my experience:

I started a chat and asked to roll back to 14/13.3.2.6, the person was happy to help and did not dig into they wy. The steps they had me follow:

- factory reset

- re-register device (was still on 4.5.1 as would be expected)

- they pushed something, I saw a system update in the notify tray but it was only there for a brief moment

- They then had me check for updates

- I told them it did not find anything

- I took a look at my kindle storage and there were 6 nameless files that showed up. When I looked at their properties there was no name or file type on them. I tried to copy them off the device but it would not let me, got a generic access message about not being able to copy the files.

- I was then told that 4.5.1 can not be rolled back and that I should return the tablet for a refund (they did say 4.1.1 can be rolled back). I think this was to be expected based on the "kill switch" code that was found in the new update. I can't find the post/link to the conversation now but I think it was code found in the kernel. Not sure Kill switch is the right term either.

- They are providing me a free shipping label :)

- Will likely get a 2013 Nexus 7
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] maxster95:
I'm sorry I'm new to how these forums work and replies and all that. Is there a way to downgrade from 4.5.1 to be able to root? It would be really helpful if someone could give me a straight answer as to if it can be done or not. Thanks!
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] arman68:
That's what I usually do. I recommend fiddler as a proxy on your windows PC, with SSL interception (make sure to install the fiddler certificate on your device).
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] EncryptedCurse:
I thought kaeru00's method still worked for x.3.2.7?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] jimyv:
I know it's verified up to .6

I read many post from at least to members that have bricked.attempting to do it after a roll back down to . 7 from KitKat..something about a fuse in the boot loader.any members can verify rollback capability? From this firmware.?

.7 down to .4 with or without KitKat downgrade?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] GSLEON3:
Something to consider... Many of the early updates did NOT include a bootloader or a boot update. To roll back successfully, at least in MY EXPERIENCE, I have needed to use a complete update archive, that includes both the corresponding boot image, recovery & re-provisioning. Your device will not boot if the firmware is not version matched. the 3.1.0 updates do not have the re-provisioning in the scripts & certs, nor the recovery install scripts afaik. 3.1.0 is also missing dkernel.

If you are trying to downgrade, make sure you know everything that is, or is not, being flashed. Know the source as well, so you know it has not been stripped down, like the ota's that Hash posted back when.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] nymica:
Another to the list of successful rollbacks my hdx was rolled back from 4.5.2 to 3.2.7 this afternoon! Thanks for the advice, now to figure out the downgrade to 3.2.1! :D
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] jimyv:
if

Anybody here has successfully rollback .7 and root ,and would like to help us get the file to do so I have a build prop backup for .5..2 simply use ROM toolbox light build prop editor and restore this file to your device reboot and recheck for updates and we shall see if it attempts to redownload the downgrade.. All of this is of course at your own risk period. I have a mega link you will need to be able to download from that send me a PM
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] EncryptedCurse:
I believe it's a one time thing...

You may need to contact Amazon again to initiate a (false) downgrade.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] jimyv:
Well I suppose that highly depends on how they have you mounted to the server if they tell folks that they can no longer upgrade I'm wondering if they just lock those device into a permanent downgrade situation .. I have no way to prove this I have kept all my devices on old firmware and have finally been rewarded for my patients with trwp recovery.. I just flashed the modified kit cat image restored all my Google apps and installed exposed module four gapps to work everything works fantastic and I am on the latest firmware..5.2

With root ,gapps , and all prime perks working properly,... It did attempt to update . And I read somewhere else where they had used the modified image and it updated over wrote itself and locked him .5 .2 no root .. And not knowing on that firmware files to disable to prevent OTA I went old-school and just did a prop build modification two version numbers and now it says no update available so I know it still checks those version numbers I figured it would be worth a chance or worth a shot period even if someone had not downgraded already that want to try to bS a little even on older firmware may be able to restore this file contact them and if all they check is your version number on your build prop. they may initiate from there. THOR .5.2 build prop. Backup file

I know the file is safe to restore in reboot I have done it twice myself I figured it was worth a shot for either person especially if they know exactly where to check for the downloaded files without assistance
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] notjoken958:
Thanks, still getting the steps set in my mind b4 doing anything. Thor too nice to brick.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] jimyv:
yeay

nothing to be ashamed about there buddy take as much time as you like none of us here are pushing anybody Its your device and at the end of the day it is your price to pay.I know for me.

I can say that's refreshing to at hear a junior member say that. ...instead of their first post being starting a thread it's titled BRICK!!! PLEASE COME HELP ME .....lol
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] notjoken958:
Rooted with towel root, thanks geohot. SuperSu thanks chainfire.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] klofisch:
Yesterday evening a guy from german customer service refused to rollback, saying its not possible with 4.5.2.

Actually i wonder how they want to manage real Problems of a new version if this isnt possible. Of course there must be a kind of backdoor
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] hecbigcat:
How to rollback from 4.5.2 to 3.2.7 , can you guide me do it
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] jimyv:
amazon customer service must do it. Look around here you will find enough peoples excuses and stories to convince them...
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] GM_Alex:
I'm form Germany too and the now roll it back for me. The first one refused it because he told me they made bad experience, what ever that means, the second one accepted my request. Both times I told them I know that it's possible because they did it before and I know that I'm not longer able to receive update. The asked me twice where I know it form and I told them that I know some other devs which got the downgrade form Amazon and all there problems are gone now. Maybe that info helps you, too.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] zxcv888:
Can you get google play store , games and all the those good stuff if you have root on .7 using xposed framework ??

:p
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] EncryptedCurse:
Yes.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] corry.p:
re fire hdx 4.5.2

I sideloaded the google play services, g mail etc, but only mail worked, the games I log into google play with would not run, it said I needed google play services which I did sideload onto tablet, can anyone help? I'm a clash of clans addict and wanted to play it on a bigger screen but it won't run :(
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] zxcv888:
rollback success

I got mine (HDX 7) rolled back to 13.3.2.8 . Rooted with towelroot, installed xposed and installed google playstore, accountmanager, gmail and playservices. I am using google now launcher and everything is working fine including LTE.

---------- Post added at 09:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:49 PM ----------

It's not possible without rooting. I was also on 4.5.2 and I requested a rollback from amazon via chat
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] zbeyu:
Impossible to downgrade :(

Omg, my device was on 4.5.2 when it shipped, and today I have just contacted the customer support through online chat and they said they are not authorized to downgrade for me since I was in version 4.5.2 already.... SO Sad.

They added that since those version will allow me to root their kindle, so they do not allow at their level :(((

Any news about the new method to root this device. Otherwise, I will have to return it :(
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] kenny.lam:
hey guy, you dont need to return it, i have upgraded to 4.5.2 automatically as well, but last time i downgraded successfully to 3.2.8 via contact Amazon support, after 4 to 5 times they just accept me, through 3 days, at first 3 times they all rejected, said that it's not possible, but i know they can, and after 4 times convince them, the guys on the 4th accept to roll back for me, so happy, then you should contact them many many time, you will get successful, do not hesitate man :laugh:
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] gqukyo:
Just keep trying as like most big companies, the reps are all different. Hopefully eventually, u'll get a rep that'll help you.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] B00j:
My success story!!

Today I contacted the Amazon Customer Service,

I told them that I have been facing some issues like screen flickering,the auto wake and sleep not functioning properly etc., After the latest Fire OS upgrade and also I have also tried factory reset but the problem still persists.

They told me that I have been the first one to come up with such problems and they would replace my kindle.

I told them that I would be happy if they would downgrade my kindle instead of replacement and I would contact them again if the problem still continues and would ask for a replacement. ;)

He told me that i'm currently on 4.5.2 and cannot be downgraded blah,blah but i kept on pushing him till he accepted my request for a downgrade !! :D
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] bmccoy11:
My Kindle was running version 3.2.6 and got updated to 4.5.2 and downgraded to 3.2.8, , is there any way to downgrade below 3.2.4? Amazon will not allow any Kindles to be downgraded past 3.2.8.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] EncryptedCurse:
No.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] kenny.lam:
How about downgrade from 3.2.8 to 3.2.6 mate ? i really wanna install the CM ROM with 4.4 android :((
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] EncryptedCurse:
You can't downgrade from x.3.2.7 or x.3.2.8 to any other version. Period.

I don't know the specifics, but it has something to do with the rollback process blowing a fuse in the bootloader.

Although this article is for the Fire TV, the same logic applies in our case: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...-rollback-to-previous-firmware-versions.shtml
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] manymarius73:
I entered chat a little while ago and told her that I wanted to downgrade. She sent me too a tech specialist, who called me and said I'd get an email in 2-3 days for a downgrade. Was that easy.. Thus far.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] kpsunil:
+1.

Same here. Want to downgrade from 3.2.8 :(
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] DCNDWarThunder:
Another successful rollback authorized with Amazon thru video chat

I've been steadily reading these forums to which everyone has been very informative. Thank you, everyone, for your persistence and work:) I recently acquired a Fire HDX 7...os was updated immediately 4.5.2 once turned on and set up. My first attempt to get Amazon to rollback the os thru chat only was a fail, as the rep essentially had no clue it could be done. So I temporarily gave up...until today. =) I activated video chat through the settings tab in the HDX device and clicked on connect for video chat..(put a sticky note over camera..lol). This time I cut thru the b.s. and demanded a tech specialist and said I want a rollback now..and this was The second attempt by me. The device randomly reboots..then apps freeze after reboot. I said I'm fully aware that the device won't get ota updates once rolled back and am fine with that. I also said to get me someone who knows how how to do this. First person I was transferred to in the tech department was a nice girl...First words she said was "ok..well I can definitely take care of this for you". I said I wanted 3.2.7. I'm now waiting for rollback to come through:) All I'm trying to do is root...maybe Nexus Rom down the line. I just wanted to share this. Thx
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] klofisch:
i rolled back after a thirs chat with customer support. Maybe i got blacklist as annoyed customer, because this guy only told me that i'll get no more update after this. I confirmed that i dont need any updates, so he put it to the tech guys and next day i got my rollback.

As Ernest Shackleton said: "with Endurance to victory" or something like that.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Update 4.5.3 would be rolled in upcoming days

No ETA

IT WOULD BE FOR THOR LTE but other 4.X line up could be receiving as well !

Tighten ur Airplane modes !!!
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Amazon officially allowing downgrades now no questions asked just follow tricks mentioned here
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] gqukyo:
They will still block the any future updates as well?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] loco09:
Amazon Germany doesnt rollback.

The funny thing is, they advice me to root the device and put s.th. else then fire os onto the device. i dont know actually if i should laugh or cry about this statement.

fireos 4.5.2 is ****. just ****!
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Grtschnk:
With respect to the recent unlock: http://xdaforums.com/kindle-fire-hd...bootloader-unlock-procedure-software-t3030281 , anybody got lucky being downgraded to 3.2.4 or lower? 3.2.4 or older is required for the unlock-exploit to work, but from what I could read Amazon mostly downgrades to 3.2.8. Maybe it's possible to explicitly get them to downgrade the device to 3.1.0? Complaining about compatibility issues and that you want it EXACTLY like it was shipped or something like this..
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Do you thing that they are dumb ?

They would not untill unless theres some issue are a mass issue ! The only way i can figure is you need to speak to jeff bezos (which will not happen again)...
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] mrewen:
Iam confused, if I succesfully roll bac, what version will I get, and what will I be capable of doing? Rooting installing a new rom?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] DB126:
Assuming you are rolled back to 3.2.8 you will be able to 1) root, customize and enjoy stock OS plus most Android apps (may have to sideload); or 2) install Safestrap and Nexus ROM which provides a near AOSP experience and access to play store apps. To my knowledge you can not yet install CM with 3.2.8.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] funkimon:
Well I've tried twice now to get rolled back with no luck. Both times through chat they escalate it to the app store and email me back.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Either accept truth that you cant or just have a false hope

Another ironic thing is that the rollback is not being initiated to all devices, it kind of analyzes something or idk but all i know is its has certain criteria...all automated process !!!
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] awinston:
Just takes time, I had to wait 4 days and then on top of that I didn't get an email or anything. I just turned it on and it had been downgraded to 3.2.8. You might want to check the status though every couple of days with chat support.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] mayur.3.92:
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