[Security Discussion] unclefab:
[MENTION=537545]neron[/MENTION]S

"Things change over time, it's not the Cold War ETA anymore. Next yes, court orders. According to international law they DO NEED a court order to see your data. And even that is done only in high profile criminal cases. You can read quite a lot about privacy laws online. "

Saying that shows that you are either very young, or that you have never left your home town, or both.

It's not the cold war anymore, true, now it's the so called war on terror, the US allways need to have an ennemy (before that back in the 90's it was the war on narcotics, but you may have not heard about it).

International laws you said?

You think the States care about those laws?

Did they care about it when the UN said that the invasion in Iraq violates such international laws?

Have you heard about the Abou Ghaib jail? That was another nice example on how international laws are followed by the States.

Apart from that, have you heard about corrupted indian officials tracking indian facebook users that expose their scamms?

Have you heard about that indonesian atheist that got severely beaten up by an angry mob because he had declared on his facebook account that he doesn't believe in god, and that endded up in jail (the atheist, not the mob) for blasphemy?

Have you heard about that bangladeshi blogger that may be executed cuz he wrote on his blog that he's an atheist?

You want more examples?

Oh yeah, I almost forgot, the states, the country of freedom and democracy, the country where you need a court order.

What a joke!

Have you heard about all what the US did these last 200 years? And have you heard about what the US is currently doing in 2014?

I guess you didn't, hence your last reply...

But as for me I did, and that's why I can't trust such a country. That said, I can't trust the european, the chinese, the indian or the russian either, not to mention the middle eastern, as I already said I trust NOONE...

"They won't receive any of your "precious" data except your rough location and serial numbers as well as your IMEI that will be bound to your Google account."

Really?

What about permissions like access fine location (precise gps location), read sms, send sms without the user's knowledge, write sms, read bookmarks, write bookmarks, read contats, write contacts, read call log, write call log, read contact card, read user dictionary, get accounts on the device, perms that can be found in apps where such perms are not needed, you want more?

Have a look at all the data leakage when you connect to the internet, and you'll see that it's not only about a few digits...

"You say you don't use a real name when buying a phone? Well tell me then, what about ID cards? You fake them too when signing a contract? Buying a prepaid SIM card doesn't need a name anyway. And buying a phone? Same thing, unless bought on contract, in which case the ID card problem persists. "

You have just proved once more that you have never been away from home.

The vast majority of android users are people from emerging countries where one can buy a phone without giving one's name (so no need to fake anything) and the same applies for the sim.

Those people are not rich arrogant westerners, who think they know everything because mum and dad sent them to a good school, and they don't have any subscription cuz in most of those countries it doesn't exist or if it does it's very limited.Those people buy prepaid credits when they have money, that's it.

How many people in the States? 315 millions.

How many people in western Europe? About 300 millions.

Add Canada, 30, Australia, 20, how many is that?

India, 1.2 billion or even more.

China, 1.2 billion and counting.

Africa, nearly 1 billion.

Indonesia, 250 millions.

Maybe you should leave your hometown and travel a bit, the world doesn't end in the west's boundaries.

"Finally saying that nobody reviews "boring source code" is ignorant if nothing else. There are tens of thousands of people PAID to do this. It's not a single guy doing it. Plus just because YOU find it boring, doesn't mean everybody else finds it boring too. "

Do a search with "linux kernel nsa", you will learn a lot.

" don't spread unfounded fear on a public forum based purely on your assumptions, or on what you see on a TV. "

Well, I haven't seen it on the tv, I have seen it on the field and I know very well what human beings are capable of, which you obviously don't.

So please, don't spread unfounded reinsurance that everything goes fine, that google and the governments are ok, just because a guy talking on their behalf on the tv said they are.

Then, you can call me a conspirationist or whatever, I don't care, I didn't write those posts for people like you but for people that have their eyes open.

"Now unclefab I'm speaking directly to you. Calling other people stupid because they don't agree with you is a direct violation of xda's rules. Please refrain from doing it again. Thanks in advance"

Where did I call anyone "stupid?

You, on the contrary, said that:

"Finally saying that nobody reviews "boring source code" is ignorant if nothing else".

So son, instead of playing mister moderator maybe YOU should watch a bit your language.

Ah the kids of today...:silly: