yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
ok I PM you, but I have to head to bed, but leave me what to do and I can do more tomorrow

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I did not have that with older dumps

I say more security in OTA

uploading odex, and deodexing will upload deodex tomorrow

ROM does not look much different than NC2 no note4 looking weather either

Hey I did NC2 kernel and NC2 booloader and rom booted

towlroot still complained
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Hoshneer:
So I tried to update my wife's Note 3 that previously had root but I unrooted it when I gave her the device. It downloaded and when it went to install it said interrupted. What can I do to fix this so it will update. I do not care about root for her.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
if your pure NC2 you can download the OTA from here

ATT-KTU8P-N900AUCUDNJ5-2400258.zip 458.8 MB or here https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8qiqh4ytVafYTdNNHZJT3NBeVU/edit?usp=docslist_api

rename the 2400258.cfg to update.zip copy to you user folder then boot into recovery and do the adb sideload

use this to get back to NC2
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Hoshneer:
Okay, I am going to try turning on the at&t apps and reinstalling to see if that works like it did for the previous person. I am hoping it will be simple. Thanks.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Walter.White:
I'm gonna try to port this ROM over. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2504016

Lets see what happens.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] devilsmack:
Did you so the sdfix? If you did you will need to revert that, uninstall busybox, unroot, and I rebooted. I dI'd that last step twice just to be sure the Custom went away.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Hoshneer:
I must be lost. What's the sdfix? I uninstalled root, turned on all the apps but it still failed. It does still say custom on boot.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Walter.White:
I tell you what. Once someone try this and reports back a success story http://xdaforums.com/note-3-att/general/update-t2947366/post56926860#post56926860

Then I'll start working to port this ROM http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2504016
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] devilsmack:
It adds a line to the platform.xml file to enable write access to the SD card. You can also add the line manually but I just used the app sdfix.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
if your talking about getting the OTA to work you have to be pure stock with odex files
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mudbeast66:
I have the stock rom that I only rooted with towelroot. To unroot, you just uninstall towelroot right? I still have the custom icon on the boot screen. I even did a full system restore and tried. Getting a failed at 27% install every time. Any ideas
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] nemesisgx:
you need to unroot and system restore to stock so go back to recovery and do a full wipe .. if that dont work your going to do a full restore with ODIN so find the NC2 Tar and flash it and then update and if you get the you cant update now wait 24 hours just go to settings and chnge the date to the next day and there you go.

You will loose root theres no root now... for now. so if you dont care about root and want new radios and better UI go a head.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
[MENTION=5575828]Walter.White[/MENTION]. NJ5 deodexed

https://mega.co.nz/#!eFkFyKjI!2kYDY6MhdZv6CMDF8SY4iEGHSBhmdvTvWRJRpHNe5Xo
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] rocky_pratik:
^^ Does that mean we can install this on our device with any issues?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Hoshneer:
Would it be easier just to have them reflash it at a Best Buy?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
I take it the root method that i PM'd you worked.

Here it is for everyone else: http://xdaforums.com/note-3-att/general/how-to-root-n900aucudnj5-t2948355
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] MarineSSGT0629:
Update failed

Stock 4.4.2 no root. I downloaded the update- progress meter did go up to 111% but the update never installed and now it says wait 23:59 before trying again. Since it came from the carrier, we can't update with kies. Can I update any other way?

http://imgur.com/mtA32KB
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
I did not get to try it yet. Will test in a hour.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
It's OK others have already tested but thanks.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] tdizzle404:
Does this flash the new radio?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Hoshneer:
So I don't want to take the chance bricking my wife's device. If there is a way I can update without using Odin or flashing let me know. I don't know if a Samsung center can do it for me.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Walter.White:
If you are not rooted on NJ5 then how the heck did you dd the system dump?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Face_Plant:
Is there any difference between NC2 and NJ5? UI differences, different sounds, unlocked bootloader, etc?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] PerfectlyFlawed:
I'm using my AT&T Note 3(Not rooted) on Cricket atm. So I don't know when or if I'll ever be pushed the update. I figured I would since AT&T owns them now, but idk. I'm hoping it's on Kies soon or someone can figure something out for me :(
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
I was wondering the same thing but whatever.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] jazzespresso:
it is for people having Safestrap.....
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] dnanj:
So my phone downloaded and installed the update. Everything looks hunky dory except that my phone shows system status is Custom.

Current Binary: Samsung Official

System Status: Custom

Knox Warranty Void: 0x0

Did this happen to anyone else?

View attachment 3027052
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Walter.White:
[MENTION=3271517]carl1961[/MENTION] did you try the sprint 4.4.4 ROM/procedure I posted on page 8? I wanna know if it boots?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
That was a adb push to sdcard, I have since rooted and have the two backup unpacked and deodexing. When deodexing done I will upload. When I get home I will test your rom.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] tdizzle404:
Flashable 4.4.4

Im getting a bit lost in all the development that is going on right now ,but is there a flashable zip for the update yet?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
[MENTION=5575828]Walter.White[/MENTION]

Twrp backup deodexed.

https://mega.co.nz/#!LcsFACaR!sI2A0PDfAqVC6rX9IgkBqk2H6zylIFVhHvvaRbHDTE4
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mikep90:
So what is the status of all this are we able to root the new update and also is able to downgrade back to nc2 if wanted 2
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
You go to muniz_ri thread. he did a safestrap recovery of the OTA, that keeps root but you need to odin flash back to stock NC2

[How-To] Root N900AUCUDNJ5 (11/21/2014)
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Arun1314:
+1

What's the deal.......lots of bits of info regarding NJ5 rooting....ha, update got me good woke up and bam!!!! Updated WTH......
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
but you can odin back to stock NC2 then follow OP instructions to install OTAwith rootkeeper, then you will have the NJ5 stock rom with root. but no safestrap recovery for NJ5 yet
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mikep90:
OK thanks. If the phone upgrades or do that method will we be able to downgrade back to nc2 have root and safestrap working by downgrading
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
yes you can go back by installing NC2 and start over then after you get safestrap back you just restore your backup rom
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
You guys are freaking machines. First time ever I read a whole 10 pages of posts. Thank you guys. Where is [MENTION=4469503]RErick[/MENTION] from all of these amazing news?

from my note 3
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
we need [MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION] and his team's help with Safestrap for NC2 ;)
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
+Alliance team= we are golden.

from my note 3
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Arun1314:
Ok cool thanks bro......
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] TheDriller:
Well

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I need the OTA please. Then we will work on getting it rooted and safe strapped someone please get me the update file
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
ok I did the install as posted here, odin installed the three files.....

heard boot sound but screen is stuck at Samsung Galaxy Note3 screen......

then boot loops...

installed whole NJ5 bootloader files... same thing Samsung Galaxy Note3 screen......

then boot loops...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
Already been done: http://xdaforums.com/note-3-att/general/how-to-root-n900aucudnj5-t2948355/page6#post56949792
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] TheDriller:
I see. Thank you sir
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] PerfectlyFlawed:
I got the update but now I have a problem! I have no data! :( I can make and receive calls but nothing else. Again, AT&T Note 3 on Cricket.

*EDIT*

GOT IT! The update deleted my APN settings for some reason. All is good now. :)
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] OmegaNemesis28:
Can someone please confirm if Google Wallet works now? The drivers we suspected for nearly a year better be in there dammit lol

Edit

After reading the thread again, I see mentions of flashing the firmware but not the update itself to the OS. Could that possibly make the NFC chip drivers available to 4.4.2 users without having to fully upgrade?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] jondoe27:
I don't know what has happen but the battery life is horrible after the update and it takes forever to charge. I have many apps disabled even Google ones but it doesn't help.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
I would do a factory reset to get rid of anything left from NC2, if you do this from factory stock recovery, it will delete everything on internal sdcard , so backup any pictures to your PC
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] jondoe27:
Thanks. Doing this right now. Will see.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] ajac:
Just woke up and saw the update hitting my phone is their a rooted ROM to download stock just rooted? I tried the OTA rooted and didnt work. Was already saferooted.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] dandroid7:
There is a thread for rooting 4.4.4:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2948355

No safestrap on 4.4.4 and no custom roms as of yet.

Thanks to [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] for the alternative root method for custom roms I was able to root 4.4.4 and keep my previous user data.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] ajac:
yeah tried that and it soft bricked the phone used saferoot to go back to previous version. So try it again on unrooted 4.4.4 or just wait till a deoxded 4.4.4?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
Deodexed SafeStrap install at bottom of #1 post No OTA install needed Remember to Thank [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION]
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] ajac:
Just tried the deodexed one boots to a black screen after safet root and then reboots itself.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
you have to install the NJ5 kernel after installing the NJ5 4.4.4 deodexed rom
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] dandroid7:
[MENTION=671820]ajac[/MENTION] I'm not understanding where saferoot came into this process?

When I updated from 4.4.2 - I did not accept the Ota because I was on a stock rooted rom with xposed modules installed, so I knew the stock ota would fail. I had safestrap v3.75 recovery installed...

I followed muniz_ri instructions for the "alternate install method" exactly as he wrote them at the bottom of the op of his thread. I did not need to use saferoot because the rom being installed was already rooted. See this post http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2948355

Are you possibly confusing safestrap with saferoot and using the wrong tool? If so, that is why you may be having this issue.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] eroracing:
I just wanna say ty to everyone involved in making this update with root possible ? I was on rooted JB 4.3 when I starting reading here and am now on 4.4.4 kit Kat rooted and my phone seems to run perfect ? now! My battery life is stupendous now also!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] ajac:
Okay lets see I was using towlel root with safetrap. tried to flash the zip over and it boots up to a blank screen. I can go back and flash back the back up with no issue but cant seem to get 4.4.4 to install. Trying now . Got it working finally went back to my last back p flashed the alternative then used the kernel and now its working thank you everyone!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] fvicente:
Still no tap to pay..I tried deleting the wallet app and reinstalling to no avail. Don't know if google needs to update the wallet or if the deathstar screwed us over yet again in favor of their militant ISIS crap by not including the updated nxp hce drivers in this release.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] kinvid:
call recording function on 4.4.4?

Can anyone confirm if call recording function..either Wanam mod or any call recording app on the playstore...especially ACR..works on this new 4.4.4 update..being new kernel and all? I need to be able to record my calls to keep this phone. Please anyone?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] dandroid7:
Yes. I just tried it for you. It worked as intended.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] OmegaNemesis28:
you're kidding me..... God dammit.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] kinvid:
Which one? the Wanam Exposed modification or using ACR voice recording app?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] dandroid7:
All I did was open the phone app, called my voicemail, and hit the record button. No customizing needed. It placed the recorded file in the voice recorder app files.

I also had one of my kids call me from their cell... I answered the phone and hit the record button on the stock phone app... it worked.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] kinvid:
So this is using the Xposed add on? How do you flash Wanam Xposed mod onto 4.4.4. if SafeStrap is not working?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] zaptear:
U don't need to flash it just download it.... and install
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
first while USB is working put add-on or whatever your installing with safestrap on your sdcard,

to use safestrap, just odin install NC2 kernel then install addon

then odin install NJ5 kernel to get back to 4.4.4
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] dandroid7:
You can install Wanam module from inside xposed... no flashing needed.

Install, activate, reboot...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] kinvid:
ok got updated to 4.4.4., and installed xposed, then installed the "TWCallRecorder " module....I enabled call recording, turn on "show call record button" and "enable call recording in menu".....and reboot. Tested out the call recording and it works. However, the add call button is still there and was not replaced with "Record Button". I would have to press menu from the call screen and press record voice. it's cool though, found out it's like this on some models, may not work as intended. At least call recording works, thanks!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
you can get it to boot with changing the liboverlay.so and lib/hw/hwcomposer.msm8974.so

I used the ones from our 4.4.4
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] kinvid:
GPS issues after updating to 4.4.4.?

While on 4.4.2. stock and rooted...(never flash anything on SafeStrap)..... I never had a problem with GPS. It will get a location fixed within seconds and stay lock while i have maps running. I use navigation every time on the road for work.

All day today, since updating to 4.4.4.... it will take 2-5 mins to get a satellite lock. Not only that, it will constantly loses it's gps lock every so often disrupting my navigation.

I'm not sure what broke my gps fix. Is it because of the 4.4.4 update? Is it because flashing for the very first time through SafeStrap? (Had to flash "N900A_NC2-NJ5-KeepRoot_OTA.zip")

Has anybody notice any GPS issues since updating to 4.4.4.?

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You can flash custom roms too? Then flash back to NJ5 kernel?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
yes but they have to be 4.4.4 rom's, NC2 rom does not run with the NJ5 4.4.4 kernel
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] kinvid:
New build?

My Build number is currently KTU84P.N900AUCUDNJ5. Why is it different here: http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB423151&cv=820#fbid=eMcj7sP1xu9 which is Build number: JSS15J.N900AUCUDNJ5

What's the difference, newer build? Should I get on this instead cause my gps lost its "instant lock" ever since I updated to 4.4.4. using the preserved root method.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] timark251:
Just got a prompt for a new update this morning,installed and baseband is now NL1. I also seem to have lost root.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] rgrbckr:
Did notice any changes, other than the base band?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
Has anyone uploaded the OTA?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] MicrosoftBug:
I want that new modem!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] timark251:
I haven't seen anything new, though the GPS still has trouble staying connected with this new update as well.

This is what AT&T is providing http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB423151&cv=820#fbid=kfLkXTsamkF
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
I won't update until enough verify we don't get a bootloader where we loose root availability. Right now we can get root by nc2
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] timark251:
I just tested it and you can downgrade back to NC2.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] killacam1989:
Do you think we will see 5.0?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] wayne8821212:
Mine downloaded but as happened with mj5 and nj5, the install failed at 27%. I scoured the internal memory but can't find the download. It's supposed to be in the data folder right? Thanks!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] timark251:
Odd, mine downloaded and installed while rooted, I was expecting it to fail, but somehow it installed just fine. Im not sure where it's supposed to be located.
[XDA Assist] XDA Visitor:
[Completed] Is there any way to create a custom ROM for micromax canvas HD Plus (A190) ????

it has a processor of hexacore 1.5 ghz

mt6591

1 gb RAM

Kitkat 4.4.2
[XDA Assist] Negan:
There are no Roms for your device at this time. However you may wish to do some extensive reading here http://xda-university.com to learn about development.

Here is another useful tools to learn about Roms.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2597220

Keep in mind these are not novice friendly but with proper research and patience the sky is the limit.

Good luck to you!

Thread closed
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Koushik87:
I am using a rooted Nexus 4 and was trying to side load android lollipop. While updating I got this error that says:

Verifying current system...

"/system/fonts/ has unexpected contents. It gives error and then aborts update. Is there any way to fix apart from flashing stock image??
[HTC One S] lorddavid:
Hi, I cant found a solid answer (just in cm11s its seem that more user have it) but i tried others cm11 roms (Hboot 2.16) and I get a lot of com.android.phone force close. So, my question is that a common bug on 4.4.4 roms? Or just 2.16 hboot? Or just me?

And there is a workaround? Is annoying because I lost signal after that
[HTC One S] lorddavid:
Please anyone? any idea? I dont know what to do, i tried to ahve logcat but cant export (Use catlog, tried os monitor but dont know how to take a logcat with that).

The problem is big because i lost calls, and the battery drain a lot because the disconnection of the network.
[HTC One S] lorddavid:
another thing, its seems to happen more when i put 2g as preferred network or when the phone switch to 2g (even if mobile data is off) any idea? is in every 4.4.4 rom (I dont switch to LP to try becauseI need hotspot something)
[General Topics] ercave1:
Here's another opportunity to give M$ a piece of your mind...

I did the survey and answered a couple questions with something along the lines of...

example: Q: What would influence your future purchase of a WM device?

A: The ability to have ROMS from Xda-Developers

M$ is collecting this data for development and marketing purposes. Let them know how you feel!

The more we remind them we're still here the more likely a positive response (wishful thinking perhaps)...

http://survey.surveysite.com/wi/p11941484/WMCC_MS_PrivacyStatement.html
[General Questions and Answers] worcesterman47:
Can anyone tell me if I will be able to download and install the Clash of Clans app on my grandsons Acer iconia A500 tablet ? ...which we are buying him for his 10th birthday..many many thanks in advance
[General Questions and Answers] TheLastStego:
You should be able too. It's an older device, but it should still work. Honestly, since you're going through Acer, I would recommend getting the Acer MeMo pad. It's slightly more up to date, and works well for the cost.
[Galaxy Ace S5830i Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gerald_rotich:
I have been using my SGAi for a while now,and i just couldnt find a rom that suits my liking..I moved back to stock and i am wondering if there's a way to add toggles (esp the data switch) on stock rom,odexed?please help me:)
[Galaxy S 4 Mini General] andu86:
Here you can find a collection of the stock kernels for Galaxy S4 Mini​

I'm starting this thread because i want all of you to have all the stock kernels in one place.

Because i own a i9195, i will start with this.

if you have stock kernels for i9190 or i9192 feel free to pm me.

How to Flash a Kernel !

1. download the kernel and extract boot.tar.md5 from the archive

2. run Odin as an administrator

3. load the kernel in the AP button

4. press start

That's it !
[Galaxy S 4 Mini General] andu86:
i9195

Kernels :

Kernel for I9195XXUCNF7 View attachment 3025166 build date: 13 Jun 2014 (can be rooted with Towelroot)

Kernel for I9195XXUCNH5 View attachment 3025171 build date: 30 Aug 2014

Kernel for I9195XXUCNJ6 View attachment 3026957 build date: 24 Oct 2014

Kernel for I9195XXUCNK1 View attachment 3026958 build date: 03 Nov 2014

Kernel for I9195XXUCNK4 View attachment 3056007 build date: 21 Nov 2014

Kernel for I9195XXUCNK5 View attachment 3159384 build date: 24 nov 2014

Kernel for I9195XXUCOB1 View attachment 3188880 build date: 04 feb 2015

Kernel for I9195XXUCOC2 View attachment 3312654 build date: 23 Mar 2015
​
[Galaxy S 4 Mini General] andu86:
i9192

Kernel for I9192XXUCNG2 download build date: 09 Jul 2014

Kernel for I9192UBUCNI2 download build date: 24 Sep 2014

Kernel for I9192UBUCNK1 download build date: 01 Nov 2014

​

Kernels provided by [MENTION=4344511]SilviuMik[/MENTION]
[Galaxy S 4 Mini General] andu86:
i9190

reserved
[Galaxy S 4 Mini General] Hewell:
Thanks for this collection!
[Galaxy S 4 Mini General] djares21:
nice!

ms de linkuri bro ! eu folosesc custom romul CNF7 ca pot inregistra apelurile :)
[Galaxy S 4 Mini General] Hewell:
Sometrouble right here!

<OSM> Enter CS for MD5..

<OSM> Check MD5.. Do not unplug the cable..

<OSM> Please wait..

<OSM> I9195XXUCNK1.tar.md5 is valid.

<OSM> Checking MD5 finished Sucessfully..

<OSM> Leave CS..

<ID:0/006> Odin v.3 engine (ID:6)..

<ID:0/006> File analysis..

<ID:0/006> SetupConnection..

<ID:0/006> Initialzation..

<ID:0/006> Get PIT for mapping..

<ID:0/006> Firmware update start..

<ID:0/006> SingleDownload.

<ID:0/006> I9195XXUCNK1.img

<ID:0/006> NAND Write Start!!

<ID:0/006> FAIL!

<ID:0/006>

<ID:0/006> Complete(Write) operation failed.

<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)

Unsupport dev_type of the kernel I9195XXUCNK1.tar.md5
[Galaxy S 4 Mini General] djares21:
you need to have the same CSC !! for ex: my CSC is XEF ! i tried to flash stock rom in ODIN with different CSC and i have the same error like you !!!
[Galaxy S 4 Mini General] andu86:
What firmware do you have ?

try the kernel again i have updated the files
[Galaxy S 4 Mini General] RobinNet1:
Can you provide a link for I9195 - 4.4.2 Romania modem ?

Thank you,
[Galaxy S 4 Mini General] Hewell:
Its run perfect with the ITV version, thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 Mini General] andu86:
Sorry but i cant provide the modem
[Galaxy S 4 Mini General] 2010radams:
Hello andu, have you got a odin flashable nk5 kernel for I9195?
[Galaxy S 4 Mini General] sasank360:
Here you go... thanks to [MENTION=4612760]ladislav.heller[/MENTION]

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=58577401&postcount=602