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[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Firstly,

In case you are not able to revert back please read your inbox now or read few posts back where I mentioned the roll back thing..it would be done then & there itself

I'm sorry but I don't understand what makes you people frustrated so easily! To be really honest I don't believe any company treats its customers as good as Amazon at least by the facilities or options, prices or discounts it provides....i've heard many people crying and whining about how a kindle is or compare a kindle to an iPad!

I feel it ridiculous! There must be some point in comparison! Yes kindle's os I buggy and some old devices are, but not the Hd 8.9 lineup or new ones, also in terms of hardware Amazon offers a decent hardware for the bucks we pay its just software that is bulky & buggy!

I'd like to say this to all who cry about Amazon & make irrelevant comparisons! Please go buy Apple devices that are much costlier & better + the support/helpline that charges you for assistance :D

@ Mr._MM Nothing personal or no offence to you its just what I wanted to share because there are lot many things that go in background and how ever customer centric a company might be its still aims to make profit.

Profit or business first customers next!!

I wish I could say what all happens in background ...Let me know if interested!
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mr._MM:
the actual link to your tutorial please

Hi Ali Ejea Mc,

Could you provide the actual link to your tutorial please as I hope to have Amazon adjust my update back to an earlier 3... version.

Many thanks.

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hi AmazonLeaker,

You are preaching to the converted, for I give up more than half of my life for free to help cancer sufferers that have been sent home to die, to heal themselves of their cancers completely. I charge absolutely not one penny for my help even though it often means I get very little sleep due to differing world time zones.

So no disrespect intended but I think my morals stand up fair and square against Amazons. Indeed if they became a little less aggressive in their demand for profit, they would actually benefit their shareholders and society at large, more than they currently do.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] OlympicBilly:
To all those who rolled back. I hope we record everything that happens in the rollback process. If you guys have the results I can help analyze so we can make a tool so everyone can rollback.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Hello [MENTION=6229057]Mr._MM[/MENTION],

Sorry if I disrespected you by any means....

I really appreciate and thank you for the work & support that you are providing to needy...I intend to do the same but not gifted with enough money to support my on family but still would love to do or help with what I have....(a lil knowledge about tech)...

If you own kindle fire HDX 7 or 8.9 contact customer care now via call tell them you are having trouble with new os, apps don't work kindle freezes so you want it to be on previous OS...

They then would say that you will be blocked of updates & can be re enabled after you contact them again...

So all you need to have a kindle connected to Wi-Fi & power socket.

In case you are still not able to get this resolved PM me please

Thanks
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Marvelous, great to hear this [MENTION=6219506]OlympicBilly[/MENTION] someone in previous post mentioned that they have not completely downloaded the file and can help us if we can get the file location if OTA file...

Let me know what all is needed also I'll add up that person here now
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
[MENTION=5940066]EncryptedCurse[/MENTION] ,your wish granted!! We need you for help now :D

[MENTION=6219506]OlympicBilly[/MENTION] can you tell me the plan for your tool how are you thinking about it and what's in your mind....?

May be something could come up in this process that might be helpful from me
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Can someone answer my post 40 please?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] OlympicBilly:
[MENTION=6176429]AmazonLeaker[/MENTION] was thinking of doing a tool that would simulate a push for a rollback to the device. Maybe creating a fake server intercepting an update request etc.. along those lines.. I do not know anything as of yet but when we do, then hopefully everything would be trivial.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Makes sense but it looks to me that the roll back is pushed by Amazon from their end on contacting them

However can you let me know how would you determine the fake server and what all you need for it?

As far as I know the data or request is initiated from Amzn server to device which upon syncing would download the file, also the requests or communications are specific to devices (Device Serial Number)..
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] OlympicBilly:
I was thinking of doing a Wireshark dump of the net traffic during this period and see what we get. Although, it might be encrypted. We might have to do more "tricks" to figure out what actually happens.

Anyways, implementation details we can talk about off the thread and through private message.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Sure I can understand...currently im busy so if it is possible for you to create a chat channel few members here can help for sure
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] SynchroDrive:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201357190&ref_=pe_584750_33951330

What the?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mr._MM:
Which OS do I need to be able to root a Kindle HDX7

Hi guys,

I have gone back to Amazon Kindle support today and after a struggle with the operator, who insisted on giving me the third degree, I realise that I do not know which previous version software I should request. I have already explained on this forum of my humble efforts in respect of the free help I offer Cancer sufferers sent home to die and it is to this end that I want to be able to root the new Kindle HDX7 I purchased last Saturday. I am not really bothered about being able to revert or get future updates, so would someone PLEASE help me to identify which earlier version of software should I be asking to revert to?

Finally, if any of you or your loved ones unfortunately fall foul of Cancer, I beg of you to keep my details and contact me before any treatment is accepted. Sadly the Cancer industry eventually kills 97.5 people out of every 100 it treats whereas the simple cheap Protocol I advise people to use cures all and I do mean ALL CANCERS 100% of the time. None of those I have helped who were told they would not live more than a few months, have died. Instead they have gone on to fully recover and lead healthy lives. If you do not undergo any treatment you can heal yourself of cancer in a matter of a few weeks if not days.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
You cannot request specific version to be rolledback..its done by themselves and is same...if possible tell me the brief conversation and the history of your device?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
You must have Soho or Thor or Apollo for rollback no other device will work
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] neils31:
I have just been informed by Amazon that they cannot do a roll back on the firmware ......
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Ali Ejea Mc:
Here is the link of video tutorial on How to Root and Install Playstore on Kindle Fire HDX

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcD5mjZK0gU

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I'm also available for any kind of help possible :)
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mr._MM:
Hi Maxster and others,

I have explained that I am working with other fellow scientist on a cure for cancer and that the apps I want to use will not run on the 4.00 software.

I asked if I could be rolled back to the earlier version 2 with software of the order of 13.3.2.5. I was told this was not possible, which we all know is just simple bureaucratic nonsense.

I then asked if I could be rolled back to the first of the 4 series software and after going off to ask his manager he came back and said that it was not "Amazon" policy. I said does my quest to provide a cure for millions of cancer sufferers around the world not make my request reasonable in view of "The Greater Good." But apparently not!

I was recently ambushed for suggesting that Amazon are not interested in the greater good but simply in their own profiteering.

At the time I had not actually not made that claim as it was someone else on the forum that had.

But now I would whole heartedly agree with that statement namely AMAZON ARE GREEDY!

What I do not understand, is why is the Kindle so unlike a PC? If I buy a PC I can delete all the hardware and load onto it any OS I like. What is so different to the Kindle? why can't I put a new SIM card or whatever into it and load any Android OS which would give me the freedom i seek? I am not bothered about warranty etc I just want the lightness, excellent resolution and speed of the kindle. But i do not want or need Amazon's somewhat limiting software.

Can anyone help please?

Thank you all so much.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
[MENTION=6031766]Ali Ejea Mc[/MENTION]

[MENTION=5594063]ONYXis[/MENTION]

Please have a look at this : http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f824/karbonn-a9-dead-qualcomm-hs-usb-qdloader-9008-how-fix-1740061/

https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/solution-recover-from-hard-bricked-oneplus-one.104943/
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] ONYXis:
Of course I already saw all of this. And many-many others threads and manuals.

Thats why I wrote that we need proper 8x74_msimage.mbn, that doesn't suit from other devices
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Ali Ejea Mc:
Where can we find it?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] ONYXis:
I think only amazon developers and few local amazon partners have these files or complete service tool.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Ali Ejea Mc:
Can we extract it from a working Kindle Fire HDX? I have a bricked one and also a working KFHDX... any possibilities?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] ONYXis:
no.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mr._MM:
My message to Amazon Customer Service Inquiry

My message to Amazon Customer Service Inquiry.

Having advised you of my work with fellow UK Government Scientist in our quest to design a new aid to defeat cancer you glibly quote ‘Amazon Policy’ at me when I make a reasonable request for a software rollback.

The whole manner in which Amazon as an organisation dictates its own selfish ends via its relentless software updates is a disgrace and needs to be brought to the attention of the British press.

In the light of your dire failure to behave like a credible, intelligent and reasonable organisation, I now intend to bring your appalling behaviour to the attention of The Daily Mail.

You could of course avoid this by agreeing to roll back my software but of course I forgot ‘Amazon Policy!’
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] uramisten:
Hi... I managed to get them to roll me back to 13.3.2.7 as you mentioned. How did you proceed from there.. or can you give me a link?

Thanks..
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Ha ha you will be getting a standard feedback also please stop spamming (yes I'm saying that you are spamming) because all others are able to rollback except you seems strange!!
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Regarding links I'm extremely sorry as I'm using my mobile So providing links would be difficult...

But I'll try all that I can, even reading this thread would help you...

After you roll back, dwnld & install Kindke fire HDX root tool to ur pc so after you run it much of things are self explanatory

On case you wish to be in stock Rom n have play services then im sorry as I hate stock kindle os...and never use it....

Btw if you plan to use other Rom then you have. Stock Nexus Rom and please read safestrap for kindle thread as its must to read & understand...

On case need help let me know...also be very careful & safe about safestrap not using it properly would brick your kindle as mine :D
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] EncryptedCurse:
Is that a typo? I wasn't aware x.3.2.7 existed...
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] uramisten:
nope... thats what they rolled me back to..

I got things working... towel root worked fine.. then openSU.. and had to sideload safestrap...

then exposed and module enabled.. then loaded gapps and all works great... :)
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mr._MM:
So you think I am spamming!

I would be most interested to learn of anyone else who has managed in the UK to persuade Amazon to roll back a Kindle hdx7 generation 3 on software update version 4.0... to 13.3.2.5 or thereabouts.

If you are suggesting that my reference to working on a cure for cancer is 'spamming' I only hope to goodness you do not fall foul of the disease. I can assure you that if you do, you will not think it quite so funny then ...!
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Ali Ejea Mc:
Well you will have to insist them to roll back... They refused me 2 times because I pretended to have some problem with few apps... But third time I said that my Kindle Reboots automatically many times a day and apps are also freezing sometimes... they asked me to Reset Factory Settings... I contacted them again after 20 minutes and said that it rebooted 2 times in 20 minutes after resetting factory settings and now all apps are freezing... I told him that all those apps and Kindle were working perfectly before Update to Fire OS 4... So they should roll it back to Fire OS 3... He said that it is not possible but they can send me a replacement... I said that I can't receive the replacement till June because I am out of Spain (I bought it from Spain) and I'll stay out till June... He said in any case the only solution is a replacement... I said I cannot recieve a replacement, it is not possible... but I need my Kindle because I use it for work and other important stuff... I also said that I have no other device so it is very important to solve the problem... So he asked me to wait and let him contact OS related team... He came back and said that Roll back may take upto 3 working days, and they will notify me via Email as soon as the Roll back process is ready...

Ask them to rollback the same way that I did, they will surely do it..! ;)
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Ali Ejea Mc:
I guess I have recieved it... How can it be extracted?

EDIT: Sorry guys it was an upgrade to 4.5.2 :/
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Firstly I'm not at all bothered or interested nor have time to comment or point on your job or profession or social service that you do.

Secondly I regard the complaining or not rolling back of os as spamming!

Hello [MENTION=6031766]Ali Ejea Mc[/MENTION]

I've just read your response and was wondering what good bullsh** Amazon rep has given!!

Its all from their end! And I,many users have said that it was done in live chat or call!

Strange to see why its difficult now!

The only thing I could say is say them,

Kindle constantly reboots or freezes, majorly all apps are feeezing or having compatibility issues.

Fac Reset has been done multiple times, if. They say ticket n all things then say no ( because logs will tell if you are really encountering such issues so its better not to go that further)

To avoid ticketing make up this way - had issues with kindle after sw changes.

Done factory reset now freezing n rebooting so its software issue now please roll back as I don't want this UI.

Another strong point on which they will roll back is that 4.x os has mandatory pin setup and you can say i'm bad with numbers so rollback old OS.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Ali Ejea Mc:
Yeah, You are right...
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mr._MM:
I am aware that this is not facebook…

Your arrogance and lack of humility is not worthy of further comment!
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Ali Ejea Mc:
Huh? Are you serious Bro? :eek:
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] SynchroDrive:
Wooh! Tried again today and got the 3.2.6 update for my Kindle Fire HDX. I just need to press "Install" on my Kindle when it has enough charge.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Unfortunately you have wasted your time bothering....and replying to the gentleman:D

Any ways! Another person got a roll back successfully!

What about you?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Congrats!
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
We can restore our kindle using jtag
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] ONYXis:
any schemes, files, proofs?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Nope sorry about that but jcase has said that jtag would help
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Ali Ejea Mc:
hahaha I think he mistakenly qouted my post... :D

Good to hear if someone got his Kindle Rolled back... I have not received any response yet, actually I have to wait till Tuesday... lets see what happens :)
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Don't have a positive hope or expectation
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Ali Ejea Mc:
Well, I will contact them again, if there is no positive response ;) (I'll become headache for them ;D )
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mr._MM:
This afternoon they rolled me back to 13.3.2.7.

Hi Ali Ejea Mc,

I apologise for my delay in thanking you for your kind advice which I used and as a consequence they have this afternoon rolled me back to 13.3.2.7.

So thank you once again, I am most grateful.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] xiloraptor:
the are telling me it is not possible to roll back from 4.5.2? is this true? i'm getting sick and tired of amazone support !
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mr._MM:
On the kind advice of Hi Ali Ejea Mc,

On the kind advice of Hi Ali Ejea Mc, I advised them that the app I wish to use keeps freezing, has compatibility issues and causes my kindle to reboot. I explained that as the app I needed to use was currently under development, I was not able to give them details of it. I also advised them that I am partially dyslexic, actually called Dyscalculia and thus the current software's mandatory pin setup causes me great difficulty. I further informed them that I understand that software version 13.3.2.6 would be suitable.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] xiloraptor:
Oke, well i contacted them again told them i have problems with my kindle and that it's freezing constantly and rondomly shutsdown by itself..I said i have researched the problem on the internet and that i want my software back to 13.3.2.7. They told me that it was not possible to update after the rolll back and that it wil take 3 to 5 bussines days? can anybody confirm this is true?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mr._MM:
I took them about an hour altogether, partly because I couldn't hear the representative properly, but in reality after a lot of humming and hawing the representative sent me the updated link there and then. You will not want to be updated after the roll back, so tell them that it is OK.

I am back to 13.3.2.7 so does anyone have a link to a procedure for rooting that works with this version please?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Ali Ejea Mc:
Check out the following post if you wanna Root ir...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=57452253
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mr._MM:
Rooted - Kindle Fire HDX 7 Fire OS 4.5.1.

Please to confirm that rolled back to 13.3.2.7 and routed using Towel Root etc as per your instructions.

So a big thank you to Ali Ejea Mc.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] xiloraptor:
Waiting 2 days now on the kindle fire developer team to roll me back from 4.5.2. to a previous version 3. how long wil this take?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mr._MM:
Saving Software Update

Do any of the more technically savvy members know if it is possible to save say the contents of my software and loadit up to a Dropbox for others to access?

In other words is it possible to write over current 4.5.1 software with say an earlier version 13.3.1.27?

If it can, then I am willing to copy my software and make it available to those having difficulty..
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] xiloraptor:
From what i understand that is not yet possible. But i hope some of the devs wil get this working. it would be awsome! at the moment i'm stuck to 4.5.2 and waiting on amazone for the roll back.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] EncryptedCurse:
It would've been done already if it was that easy.

I looked into it myself before I decided to just go on with the downgrade. From my investigation, I believe that OTA updates are stored in the /cache folder which — of course — is inaccessible to the regular user. So, as you can assume, you need root access.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mr._MM:
I guessed as much.

Dear EncryptedCurse,

I guessed as much. But would it not be an easier task for someone of adequate talent to find a protocol for gaining access to the data held in the cache.

I have always believed in the notion that 'everything is possible you just have to have the will.'

Nevertheless thank you for your kind response.

Mr._MM
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] tl3:
Locked Bootloader...

No need to mess with the cache or upload anything, as any of the previous versions of the FireOS could be readily downloaded directly from Amazon's server. The catch is that if you're one of the commoners here with the locked bootloader then flashing is off-limits. Only the privileged few here with the bootloader unlocked could freely flash any stock version and custom ROM they desire... :p
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] shadowcliffs:
i'm on the phone with amazon kindle support team and i was told they have never heard such a request as downgrade. are they lying?

update: finally got it rolled-back. I was warned that my device will no longer get any OTA update once rolled-back, I said it's fine with me, let's go ahead. Then I was told it had been initiated at their end. Then I just went to device and check for update, and it started downloading. Once the downloading was finished, just click update, and I'm back to 13.3.3.2.6. Also there must be a factory reset for everything I installed had been wiped.

Then I have it rooted, and disable OTA update anyway. Everything works such as I'm able to set Nova as default launcher, except for iGo's tts. With FireOS 4.1.1 iGo primo 9.6.29.379219 works well including Loquendo TTS, but now it has no sound no matter tts or not. I then tried an older version, iGo primo 9.6.29.331894, and the sound is back.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Ali Ejea Mc:
Yes of course they are lying... checkout the following posts before calling them for rollback...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=57457515

and...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=57465482
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] aaronkatrini:
riffbox does not support at the moment kindle fire hdx, so is there any other options available
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] xiloraptor:
Okay well its official. They can't downgrade the software from 4.5.2. I talked to a supervisor and he explained that a roll back would only be possible on 4.5.1 and lower. So thats a bummer i guess:mad:
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] EncryptedCurse:
It really depends on the representative you get.

Just try calling another time.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] xiloraptor:
So i started a live chat and this is what the chat agent told me.... **** Amazone!!

''We have checked with the technical team and confirm, we are unable to roll back the software on your device as the software version is too high. Only devices running FIRE OS version 4.1.1 or 4.5.1 can have their software rolled back to the previous version.''
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] AmazonLeaker:
Can you point me to a thread where kindle Fire HDX bootloader can be UNlocked???

The whole problem is this... If you can point me or help me to get the bootloader UNlocked ill pay $50 to you