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[Nexus 6  General] wietse1988:
Lol :p That awake time gsam shows, is the awake time when the screen is off. You want to have that as low as possible. Then the idle drain will also be very minimum.
[Nexus 6  General] funkpod:
Does factory reset clear my phone storage as well?
[Nexus 6  General] phyba:
I think that's just android in general. My note 3 was the same way. One day i d have 4 hours of screen time at 50%, next day I'd have 2 1/2, same usage, same cell service. So every morning I reboot my phone while on the change and I tend to get better battery life when doing that. Clears out any rogue apps
[Nexus 6  General] Chad_Petree:
Then I probably have a rogue app since my awake time is not so far behind the onscreen time :( and there's no way to check which app is keeping the phone awake :( I only am able to check app usage but that tells me the usage of both onscreen and off screen together :(
[Nexus 6  General] Cycloneon:
Had my first full day with the Nexus 6 yesterday. For the entire day, my battery went from 96% to only 59% before hitting the sack.

Not bad.
[Nexus 6  General] wietse1988:
Maybe try wakelock detector, it's a free app. There you can easily see which apps are active while the screen is off
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
Yes
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
Thats my benchmark lol
[Nexus 6  General] MultiKoopa:
Screen on time?
[Nexus 6  General] teddy sheringam:
for those having troubles with battery drain and wakelocks...

I was on stock, rooted and elementalx kernel... Even without using the phone, it was losing abou 8% per hour...Wakelocks were crazy and phone did't deep sleep... Bought the app better battery and installed also wakelock detector... Tried everything but couldn´t resolve the issue...

Did just one thing to see if the problem was solved: return to stock unrooted... Et voilá: no mora that battery drain and crazy wakelocks... Sure i lost root, but i gained battery... I'm not sure why does it have to do with the fact that is rooted... If it does even has something to do... But one thing for sure: the wakelocks gone...
[Nexus 6  General] MultiKoopa:
that's not really a solution :\
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
Are you sure it was losing root? Or was it the return to the stock kernel?
[Nexus 6  General] teddy sheringam:
Sorry, but for me it was... I tried everything...

I don't know... I just know that the battery drain problem it was solved... Why do you say it was kernel? The wakelocks where from google play... Could it be the kernel?
[Nexus 6  General] funkpod:
Hey, I managed to factory reset it in TWRP and it kept my internal storage, so win/win. Now, I am stock and fresh wiped, just have a few games and essentials installed. Here's to hoping I find better battery life and any rogue apps!

Everyone, do you think NOVA launcher is bad on battery life?

Also, what about Wear Mini Launcher? Do apps for the Moto360 or any android wear apps, are they constantly syncing onto your watch, or is that just how they're installed?
[Nexus 6  General] Red.Man:
How is the result? I have problem with wakelock too. My device is usually awake when Wifi is on and that make my device survive about 2-3 hours SOT only. What a pain!
[Nexus 6  General] DebianDog:
Dude spend the money on Titanium Backup I can't imagine doing it like that repeatedly. But thanks for the results

Stock with Franco kernel in balanced mode, GPS on high accuracy, all apps Greenifed that can be I can get over 6 SOT but it kind of depends.

Sent from my Google N6 on VZ
[Nexus 6  General] ExjeetzZ:
I recently managed to get 6 hours and 48 minutes right before the phone shut down, I didn't use anything other than touching the screen every 25 minutes to keep it turned on.

I don't understand why other roms are having these battery life issues? I was testing the latest Chroma that came out on the 25th and it was considerably better than it's prior version but it still never went over 4 hours and 30 minutes. (It recommends 3/15/2015 LP Gapps) I used the 2/25/2015.

I'm currently using TWRP to make backups just in case :)

I think the gapps have something to do with these results. Every Rom recommends to use the 3/15/2015 LP gapps but i have been using the 2/25/2015 LP Gapps for the stock because that's what stephen had recommended. (That's how i got 4 hours and 30 minutes on Chroma :P ) Updated gapps give considerably lower SOT.
[Nexus 6  General] kidhudi:
i actually use a program called mobilego from a company called wondershare. it backs up everything from texts to pics to apps music and anything else you can think of.

then when i flash a new rom i just restore and i am back to how i was exactly
[Nexus 6  General] phyba:
Got this phone Wednesday and battery life wasn't up to par with my note 3 I replaced. I got 4 hours sot the first day of use and about the same yesterday. I decrypted the phone last night just to see what it would do, I'm sitting at 3hours and 10 minutes with 40% left after 13 hours. I didn't hit 3 hours until the battery was at 20% yesterday. I'll see what happens to tomorrow.
[Nexus 6  General] bob2300nx:
NVM dumb question
[Nexus 6  General] phyba:
No. If it says encrypt phone, your phone is decrypted.
[Nexus 6  General] bob2300nx:
Got it thank you! Wasnt decrypted but I am now after fastboot deleting user data. Now to see if I notice a battery life difference as well
[Nexus 6  General] phyba:
I am seeing about an hour more SOT. Still testing but hopefully it stays this way. The phone was already fast so I can't tell if the phone is faster
[Nexus 6  General] Delboyd12:
Can anyone explain what on earth is up with my Nexus 6? Had this pretty huge 15% Android System/Kernel drain since I got it. I've gone from Stock/stock to stock/Franco to Chroma/Franco to Chroma/Lean and simply can't figure it out.

Not getting any more than 4 hours SOT which coming from my S5+ is annoying.

Would decryption help?
[Nexus 6  General] saraddictive:
I've been experiencing the same thing as delboyd above but only after I updated for 5.1 - and it's driving me nutters. Rooted/Franco kernel user here. Any one have any ideas?

Just downloaded gsam battery and am getting 3h 40 in screen on with 35% battery left so far. Any ideas?
[Nexus 6  General] dano1282:
Factory reset maybe? Let it settle in? I started with Lean Kernel about 2 days ago and I'm getting about 14-15 total with 4-5 hours SOT. I unlocked, rooted, flashed kernel, FDS, and then started from scratch. After a day or two the battery settled in and Now I'm going an entire work day 8-10 hrs and still at about 40%. My Droid Turbo wasn't even getting that much.
[Nexus 6  General] phyba:
Honestly, u looking at about 5 hours SOT. That's actually not bad. That's about what I'm getting now stock rooted decrypted. Now this phone gets the same battery life as my note 3.

How is your phones standby?
[Nexus 6  General] davanw:
I think I'm in the same boat as many here. Runnnig Chroma rom, battery drain overnight. GSAM just shows Android System using all the battery. I've tried older radios, newer radios, a couple different kernels. I'm just now flashing away from Chroma, I'm going to try Euphoria OS.

Canadian Bell user here.

Charged it up full before going to bed last night. Drained almost 50 percent in 5 hours.

My only workaround thus far has been to put it in airplane mode before going to bed.
[Nexus 6  General] yellowman82:
Well I'm doing pretty good so far. This is my first discharge using Benzo ROM and Zen3 kernel and well I don't really play games besides Clash of Clan and Boom Beach but I'm usually either texting most time Lot's of browsing on Tapatalk, Facebook, Chrome and a lot of YouTube.
[Nexus 6  General] henhida:
anyone know ehere i can find for battery replacement ?

i had search online, i cant find anything
[Nexus 6  General] SaZh047:
Hey I have a question :)

Why do I have 35 minutes of sot when I go from 100% to 95% and then 25 minutes of sot when I go from 95% to 90% even though I do the exact same thing... Kinda weird to me [emoji14]
[Nexus 6  General] rehpot1:
8 hours from completely charged. Worst day yet. 1 hour SOT.
[Nexus 6  General] cory_dre:
I too feel like once I flashed 5.1 I was getting terrible battery life...on 5.0.1 I would easily get 48 hours with the last 15% on battery saver and now I go through ~50% like its nothing. I am getting close to 10% of my battery from google services and I still don't quite get what I need to do to get that back down. I would have thought SOT would have been the biggest determent but it isn't.
[Nexus 6  General] rjackson23:
Running benzo
[Nexus 6  General] davanw:
Overnight last night, I tried Stephen's ROM, suggested above. Still drained from 89 percent to 26 percent overnight.

Going back to completely stock today, as it seems this battery drain is present on all AOSP ROMs I've tried.
[Nexus 6  General] funkpod:
ehhh... might be better.... hard to say. I just remember the first day after flashing 5.1 ota that i had the best battery life. i've been chasing that ever since. i'm trying not to worry about it and just charging it whenever it hits around 50%, cuz they say it's better for your battery to charge it then as opposed to letting it run all the way down and then charging it.
[Nexus 6  General] yellowman82:
Try benzo with hydra or Zen kernel.

Edit: if your still having crazy drain then you have to check if it's an app. Start with having no apps install at all.
[Nexus 6  General] SaZh047:
Benzo ROM+Hydra Kernel. Amazing :D
[Nexus 6  General] A2CKilla:
just downloaded cpu tuner (needs root), it was free and I just wanted to test some stuff, I haven't used it since the gingerbread days, but when I'm not touching my screen or have it off, it clocks all my cores at 300mhz which still makes everything responsive but saves sooooo much battery power. It also only clocks up to 1.4Ghz for normal use and 2.7Ghz when I'm playing a game or something. Now before I downloaded it, my clock speeds were all over the place with the stock kernal. So you guys might want to give that a try again if you're familiar with it, I use the screen off profile with a conservative governor and use cpu-z to check my core clocks if anyone is wondering.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
Yeah, some games need to be throttled down too...

I prefer not to limit the cpu unless needed (app ranks and holds it much higher than needed.)

But I use Tasker, and franco kernel updater to Control that.

Tasker allows me to control more of the phone based on where I am, what I'm doing, etc, etc... Adjust screen timeouts, radios, brightness, cpu freqs, passed, lock times, auto run apps when certain triggers are hit... (connecting to a certain bluetooth device for instance)

Some of my tasker profiles are to improve battery life, others are for convenience, "training" my phone to predict my needs and act accordingly.
[Nexus 6  General] A2CKilla:
I feel the same way about not limiting the cpu, but in this case, I found a happy medium, it's being "limited" basically when I'm not doing anything at all, and going up to a moderate speed when I'm doing basic things, which is really all that's needed. I don't always need the max power of my cpu when opening a text message:p. But I personally haven't messed around with custom kernels, once again, since the gingerbread days, but this time around, I didn't really think it was needed.
[Nexus 6  General] jley22:
I was on Benzo with Franco Kernel, and switched to Chroma 5.1 with Franco kernel. I noticed a dramatic increase in battery life. Not sure why, maybe it's my setup, but I'll stick with Chroma for now.
[Nexus 6  General] phyba:
I get 35 minutes of sot from 100-90% and an hour from 90-80% lol.
[Nexus 6  General] plusforce:
Could you please provide the link? I mean, when is better to charge the battery ?

So it is not better to wait until dead point of the battery ? or as low as possible ?
[Nexus 6  General] davanw:
That's exactly what I did with Stephen's ROM last night. Clean flash, signed in to my Google account, but that's it. Didn't download any apps, didn't connect any other accounts. Left it completely bare. Still drained. Per GSAM, it's just Android System and Android Kernel using up the battery.
[Nexus 6  General] funkpod:
Don't remember where, I think it is a lithium ion battery thing. I could be wrong, but ooh well.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
With lithium based batteries (what's in our phones) it's dangerous/damaging to the batter to discharge below 3.3V (approximately), however, every modern phone I've tested has powered off (dead/low battery) between 3.5 and 3.6V so it's not disastrous to discharge to 0% on the phone... It won't hurt the battery to charge up at 50%, but it won't hurt the battery going lower either. What you want to avoid is charging the phone when it's still above 90%... Charge to 100% discharge to below 90% before putting back on the charger...

There's a thread nearby (I'll grab the link in a bit) where we talked a lot about when to charge, how to charge, when not to charge, battery conditioning, etc, etc, etc...

Edit: here's that thread... Yes it's about battery saving tweaks, but we got on a little tangent about charging batteries, and how to ensure maximum number of charge cycles as well as maximizing the length of each cycle
[Nexus 6  General] gmarcoux:
Just putting my two cents in. After flashing the decrypted kernel my battery life has noticeably improved. I went from an average of 3 hrs OST to hrs today
[Nexus 6  General] spartanm99:
Update

Screen brightness set to Ambient display, no bluetooth, less than 1 10 minute phone call, about 17 text messages, ZERO games or movies and just some simple Google searching. LTE for about 20 minutes and WiFi on for the rest of the time.

Screen on time: 3 hours and 40 minutes

Running: Stock 5.1

Exactly the same settings on my phone when I was running 5.0.1 gave me about 3 hours and 20-40 minutes too....

This is extremely disappointing for me. I really had hope that with stock android, project volta and a huge battery this phone would break the 4 hour on screen time at the very least. I want to have bluetooth on, I want to have WiFi on, I want full screen brightness without ambient display and I want to use my phone more often. I can't. The battery just doesn't last long.

I get the same results as my girlfriend who uses the exact same phone as me so I'm assuming it just isn't my phone.
[Nexus 6  General] jayesh:
What is the best rom/kernel combo going for stable battery life. Mine was working ok, updated to 5.1 and it's got cut by a considerable amount. Is it safe to downgrade?

Please excuse if this has already been answered.
[Nexus 6  General] DebianDog:
I am not a big believer in X ROM making the difference. I think it is the kernel, and the kernel settings that the Dev defaults in there, what add-ons are included is what makes the difference. The Gapps included/suggested also will have a bearing due to background syncing and whatnot. The less things you have running the longer your battery will last. It is that simple. For me I am willing to give up some battery for Viper audio and layers theming.

The Lean, Franco and Hydra kernel are achieving results better than stock. Hydra is kind of the flavor of the week/getting very good results. That being said I average 5 hours of SOT. I have seen less than 4 and almost up to 7. On every ROM, even stock, with a properly tweaked kernel.

(today looks horrible because I had all 4 cores running at a high frequency messing around)

No ROM kernel combo is going to give you 6 hours of on screen time at 100% brightness, that's fantasy. My wife is one of those people that keeps her Note 4 cranked to MAX. Small rods and cones. So I know some people need that.

Sent from my Google N6 on VZ
[Nexus 6  General] jayesh:
Well summed up. I just switched my sim back to my 6 plus for the time being, as i had a terrible morning with nexus crashing by 4 pm . It's battery life is nearly 30-35 percent more at this point and it's equally fast and stable. I will wait for this to be sorted out, before i switch back to it.
[Nexus 6  General] DebianDog:
Just out of curiosity how long can you run your iPhone 6 at full brightness for?

This is the mornings stats on Benzo ROM running Franco kernel. Two hours of SOT. 30% battery used

Sent from my Google N6 on VZ
[Nexus 6  General] davanw:
What I've found is my usage during the day, screen on time, all that is really great. I couldn't be happier with how the battery lasts during the day.

But when I go to bed at night... The phone's deep sleep ends up draining more battery overnight than my daytime usage.

Just can't figure it out. Seems consistent regardless what ROM and Kernel I try. Even pure stock with no apps or accounts set up.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
What's your signal quality like overnight? Green, yellow or red?

If it's a poor signal, them your phone has to work harder (using more battery) to maintain the connection... Do you have the same drain if you set you phone to airplane mode overnight?
[Nexus 6  General] davanw:
My signal quality bounces between Green and Yellow both at home, and at work.

Airplane mode is indeed my work-around. Without airplane mode, it drains over 30 percent in just a few hours. With airplane mode on, it only drops 2-3 percent over the same period of time.

But during the day today, it's only dropped 1 percent over the last two hours, sitting on my desk. It only drains overnight. Frickin weird.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
Since it's draining with radios on, that suggests (since you have tested with nothing syncing) that it is a signal issue... Does it drain all the time like that at home, or just overnight? Have you installed an app like BBS to track wakelocks, processes and network usage?
[Nexus 6  General] henrybravo:
Much less battery drain in airplane mode makes it clear that it's the one or more of the radios (wifi, cell, bluetooth) causing the problem. It's probably wifi or cell. Even though your cell signal is roughly the same at home and at work, your radio might be doing high draining things like hopping from one tower to another while you're at home. That's just an example, I don't know if that's really happening of course. There are many variables. You can experiment with different radios; there are several different flashable ones on this forum. Different radios have different characteristics that may work better or worse on some carriers versus others and in differing signal strength situations. There are also instances when some versions of wifi radios don't play nice with some home wifi routers due to a variety of factors such as signal strength, encryption, etc.

You can do a process of elimination each night to narrow down which radio it is: for example, disable wifi on the first night and leave cell data on and observe the results in the morning. Second night, do the opposite; disable cell data and leave wifi on. This will tell you which radio is causing the drain. You can also clear your battery stats before you go to bed and see how long your phone was in "deep sleep" mode. During an 8 hour timeframe of doing nothing, your phone should be in deep sleep mode for at least 6-7 hours. This will also tell you if there's a particular app or apps that are keeping your phone awake.
[Nexus 6  General] MultiKoopa:
Apparently, 5.1 enables Band 12 LTE on the Nexus 6, which might explain why some people are getting much better battery life/signal with 5.1

I'm just waiting for the issues with 5.1 and SuperSU 2.46 to be ironed out
[Nexus 6  General] davanw:
I have been using GSAM, but it doesn't help. It has just verified that Android System and Android Kernel are the culprits.

It only seems to drain overnight. In the evening at home, I can sit on the couch with the phone idle on my desk. It doesn't drain. Likely because I'm waking it up periodically, to check on it.

I have been trying these exact steps each night for the past week or so.

I started by trying different ROMs.

Then tried different Kernels.

Then flashed different radios.

Nothing has made a difference so far, but I'm still working at it. Sucks because I have to wait overnight to see if each change made a difference.

Tonight I'll try disabling just Wifi instead of going full airplane mode.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
Because you're randomly making changes, you're not working towards pinpointing the problem...

Pick one rom (I prefer stock rom/kernel for diagnostic tests like this one... Also gives a baseline to compare other roms)

If drain is stopped by airplane mode, then it's either hardware or a rogue app, if after checking with bbs/gsam you've determined no app involvement, it's hardware, I. E. The radios... Enable only one radio at a time to check involvement... Once you've narrowed down which radio is causing the issue (most likely the cell 3g/lte radios, then check by disabling the lte radio) then you can start looking for solutions...

Randomly flashing Roms, kernels, and radios isn't likely to find a fix, except through sheer luck...
[Nexus 6  General] davanw:
I've been making one change per evening, then trying it over night.

It's not random, but I do see what you're saying.
[Nexus 6  General] anotherfiz:
my battery has been good until today, 4+ hours of SoT including heavy chrome use and gaming... today my phone has not slept yet.. incidentally the battery will probably last my day, but google services is going nuts!
[Nexus 6  General] SaZh047:
What are you running? ;)
[Nexus 6  General] DebianDog:
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[Nexus 6  General] Cycloneon:
Check battery usage

How can I check my full battery usage? Google's battery info doesn't really give me my SOT activity and such.... Or maybe I'm just looking wrong.
[Nexus 6  General] bill3508:
Here's mine for the last cycle. This is running Chroma.
[Nexus 6  General] phyba:
Stock rooted and decrypted. Battery use is uneven. First 10% drains fast, next 20% is skkw as hell
[Nexus 6  General] spartanm99:
Someone asked about how long a 6+ can run on full brightness for; I have on on hand and the screen on time is about 6-8 hours depending on what I'm doing.
[Nexus 6  General] jayesh:
I am not a fan of doing that, as it gives me a headache. However I have used it like that and it's consistently around 6 hours

Sent from my iPhone

---------- Post added at 05:26 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:25 AM ----------

Yea pretty much. Last cycle I got almost 9. This was just using whatsapp, video and twitter

Sent from my iPhone
[Nexus 6  General] spartanm99:
Almost 9 hours is not bad for full brightness on a phone with a 5.5" LCD screen (and under 3000mh battery).

I can't believe Google can't at least get close with a 3200+ battery, AMOLED screen (yes it is bigger/more pixels, but AM screens use less power....right?) and with brightness at full.

After the Nexus 6 battery life and the fact that the screen is not amazing (not so bright and from my use with a Note 4 and 6+, it is not up to scratch), I might consider another phone come end-of-2015 upgrade time instead of sticking with Nexus. Hopefully Sony do something amazing for the Xperia Z4 Ultra this year (and keep its phone size about the same as the N6). Size of the N6 is not a problem, I love the small bezels and almost 6" screen. Beautiful!
[Nexus 6  General] bill3508:
Don't see how you guys run full brightness, its nauseating to me.
[Nexus 6  General] jayesh:
It really is, but i don't mind it once in a while.
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
Can i ask how you're getting that ? are you actaully timing it ? because if you're using that " Usage" stat in the options .. that actually includes times when the screens off but the processor is running.... I.E it is not comparable to SOT on Android
[Nexus 6  General] DebianDog:
It has to do with the number of rods and cones in your eyes. My wife has to have it on near full brightness even at night. I am the exact opposite. Her phone brightness was actually making my one eye tear last night when we were sitting in bed together I had to scoot down and put a pillow between us to block the light.

The positive; at night if there is any light at all, I can see pretty well. The negative.; if it is bright outside and I don't have a sunglasses. I am miserable.

But back on subject. my eyes are conducive to good battery life. I spend a lot of time at the lowest setting

Sent from my Google N6 on VZ