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[Nexus 6  General] seh6183:
On target for 6 hours SOT. It probably wont make it to 6 but 5+ is my bare minimum so it looks like you will make it without any issues. After the kernels and tweaks come I believe we can hit 7 hours or close to it.
[Nexus 6  General] jbdan:
I don't know, it's my first cycle & day with the phone (in the OP ^).

Throughout my many years with Android this will increase quite a bit after a few charge/discharge cycles.

It is a large MotoX after all ;)
[Nexus 6  General] jbdan:
I believe we'll hit 7 without tweaks or kernels. I'm feeling confident :)
[Nexus 6  General] ryude:
That would be great, plus google can always release more patches.
[Nexus 6  General] epphllps:
I'm on pace to hit about 4 hours of SOT. Using WiFi only right now as my local LTE signal is worse on the nexus vs my 6+, which us shocking BC I remember motorola having great radios back when I was an avid android user. I do love both platforms so no bias here at all lol. Love this nexus and where android stands with lollipop. Probably going to stick with my 6+ as my primary for now. I really wish we could see SOT for the 6+ BC it is an absolute BEAST in that area. I can't run the dang thing down unless I try and even then it is exhausting. For you recent android users, what is the typical SOT these days for the phones with such big batteries and high res screens? Is it really the screen that kills the batteries so quickly in comparison to the lower res screen on the iPhone phablet?
[Nexus 6  General] litrekid:
My first full charge since I got the phone early this morning and I'm at 2 hours sot at 70%. Brightness is at about 90% with adaptive on. Watched a few utube bids and browsed around all on 4g
[Nexus 6  General] uhguy:
When people are posting SOT I would like to also know whether adaptive brightness is being used or not. I'll gladly post some screenshots in the coming days once my battery gets a few cycles on it.
[Nexus 6  General] jbdan:
Great point I'll add that thanks :good:
[Nexus 6  General] TheLonePoster:
Mine is activated on verizon and i feel like im having excessive battery drain.

My first full discharge had over 3 hours of screen on time and went from early afternoon to the next morning. How are people getting 6 hours?

Today i charged it up when i returned home from work. Only a few hours on the battery and only 48 minutes of screen time so far on this discharge and I'm at 70% as of writing this post through the phone. Adaptive brightness is off and the brightness has been set low (1/4th brightness or less depending on light, with screenfilter on to make it dimmer than normal when needed). Also, data is off and only wifi is on for data. Ok google detection is on though and i noticed recently that its not taking my commands with the screen off even though its set to.

Finally, the thing gets very hot when using it, especially when charging.

Edit: picture of the battery stats the morning after I made this post. It's nice that the battery practically flat lines at night when I also turn off cell data and WiFi. However, something is waking my phone and I don't know what it is, maybe its auto sync. I can't seem to figure out how to turn off auto sync with android 5.0 so I can test that.
[Nexus 6  General] gogol:
I think it is better also to specify how much percentage of the adaptive brightness.

Because you can set it to 100% or lower, like 30%.

That would affect the battery, no?
[Nexus 6  General] jbdan:
Yes I believe it would, thanks!
[Nexus 6  General] epphllps:
On my third discharge with WiFi only and brightness maybe 1/4 inch turned up from all the way down. Ambient display on. Not sure my battery life is up to par.

If I need to an anymore info just let me know. Haven't been on Android in a minute.
[Nexus 6  General] DrexelDragon:
What's up with this guys?
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
Looks like a graph. I think they all come with it.
[Nexus 6  General] DrexelDragon:
Thanks.. I'm talking about Google services and Search being #1.
[Nexus 6  General] jbdan:
When you click on GServices what is your keep awake time, cpu foreground and total times?

Do you have location reporting set to ON?
[Nexus 6  General] DrexelDragon:
Yes reporting on - Keep Awake: 26m, CPU fg: 1s, CPU total: 5m 47s
[Nexus 6  General] jbdan:
Do you use the reporting on feature? Those look somewhat normal
[Nexus 6  General] daddioj:
i am still keeping faith since lollipop is so new. but i am thinking of returning it for now. i was spoiled by oneplus battery life. probably the best battery life i ever had in any phone
[Nexus 6  General] sprintuser513:
I do have faith. The problem is, do I keep the device in hopes that the battery life will be improved? That's a huge investment for something that may not be corrected. Android 5.0 is new and I would expect some improvement over the coming months.
[Nexus 6  General] daddioj:
that's the same dilemma i am with. don't want to miss the return window. but also afraid if i give it back. they will fix it lol
[Nexus 6  General] wrinklefree:
Count me in as disappointed with the battery life. I can barely get 3 hrs SOT.
[Nexus 6  General] sprintuser513:
I just did a hard reset to see if anything improves. I really want the battery life to be good.
[Nexus 6  General] daddioj:
google does such retarded things. they could have either A put a bigger battery considering screen size. or B made a smaller version 5.5 -5.7
[Nexus 6  General] wrinklefree:
I would have been just as happy with a 1080p display if it improved battery life.

Regardless, the battery life of the Note 4 (w/similar specs) gives me hope Google can improve this considerably with software.
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
Those who are getting great battery life, are you using the google now launcher or a different launcher? I plan on using Nova because with the large screen, i'll definitely want the gestures to help one handed use.
[Nexus 6  General] Mistertac:
OK here's my day at work..

This is with the phone Unlocked, Rooted,Decryption Off and using Greenify.

Brightness around 50% with Ambient on.

I use Nova Launcher, Hangouts, Inbox, Calendar, Google + and Tapatalk. Sync is on for everything.

I was also on a phone call for about 25 minutes and didn't have the best reception where I worked today.

I think people who are having terrible battery life should use Wakelock Detector and Better Battery Stats to see where their problems are because certainly I think this phone is capable of great battery life without even doing much more than using Greenify.
[Nexus 6  General] old_fart:
Take out 'whole system encryption' and put in greenify and 'taa daa' ! ! ! good ( noticeably better ) battery life. These are things 'anyone' can do right now... We don't know what Google will do / fix in the next update.
[Nexus 6  General] daddioj:
well i for one. don't want to be bothered with such non sense. you would think after flip phones and technology they would learn how not to be retarded when building phones. LOL.. take the droid turbo for example. 3900 ma battery and gets ok battery life. QHD is not there yet. its just not. not in cell phones anyway
[Nexus 6  General] greenro89:
Has anybody tested how ambient display and adaptive brightness affect battery life? Being only off the charger a few hours, they sure seem to be active based on what I see here
[Nexus 6  General] old_fart:
Does not compute. Why does one purchase the nexus brand ? Answer: (1) to get pure vanilla phone. (2) to get rapid updates (3) to get a **** pot full of custom kernels and custom roms to play with (4) freedom from bloatware (5) a chance to get in there and tinker around ( make a backup, mess around if you screw up, restore ) . . .

(6) bragging rights to know / say ' I compiled my own rom ! '

.

good grief !
[Nexus 6  General] Pilz:
That's really weird, I've never had a phone drain that fast. I can use mine at 100% brightness and it won't drain that fast nor will my G3 which isn't known for battery life.
[Nexus 6  General] jbdan:
I'm using Nova. Also for the gestures like you state. I use gnow too. The swipe up from "o" home button gnow.

I have not but iirc google states on their product page the guestimates of battery life with and without it on. Interesting results I'm keeping my eye out
[Nexus 6  General] pathtologos:
Well I couldn't help it. Opened the nexus 6 box and fell in love. Sold iPhone 6 plus. I have yet to go through a full cycle (obviously) but I gotta tell ya, when I first turned it on, it had 80% and that was like 4 hours ago. For the last 4 hours the screen has pretty much been on non stop. I've been downloading a TON of apps, I've had the screen on 70% brightness--basically, I've been abusing it and I'm still at 40%. Compared to what I had on iPhone 6 plus, this isn't bad at all. I'm starting to wonder if the guys with horrible battery drain have some kinda hardware/software issue. I'm pretty happy right now.

EDIT: by the way, I'm on t Mobile, turned off auto brightness, and the adaptive setting was off too. Been on WiFi for most part but I did run out to post office which took about 30 min. I was on LTE during that time.
[Nexus 6  General] Timefusion:
Took it off charger at 11pm last night after 1st full cycle charge. Had 47minutes of SOT at 8am this morning and was still at 93%...off to a good start. Used normally for business today (75minutes of calls, dozens of emails, some texting, some facebook etc). Now at 18% after 2hours SOT. I set brightness to just under 50% and had adaptive control on for half the time. The battery page shows 19% used on gmail, which seems a bit high (maybe there's a setting i'm missing).

Overall, I really enjoy the phone. I'll go through another cycle or two and maybe add Greenify, but if i can't get at least a full day, it's a problem. My note 3 rarely fell below 50% at bedtime with same usage.
[Nexus 6  General] sprintuser513:
Thanks for the update. Let me know how you feel about the battery life in a few days.

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I get about the same with the same usage. Roughly 2-2.5 hours screen on time. I took the phone off the charger at 2pm est and its now 530pm.. Battery is sitting at 65% with 1hr 12min SOT. On this trend my battery will last 9-9.5hrs. Not acceptable at all IMHO especially when I work 13-16 hour days.
[Nexus 6  General] pathtologos:
I'm wondering if there's any battery burn trend between carriers. I'm on t mobile and so far things seem OK. Gotta really go thru a few days b4 I know for sure.
[Nexus 6  General] daddioj:
no i buy a nexus brand to get all of the above. except flashing kernels and all that non sense. i am past this stage in my life. and dont tell me to buy an iphone either. i LOVE everything about the phone except battery life. i am sorry for 700+ dollars i should not have this experience. i will not go to a carrier phone. i will just go back to the one plus. for now. maybe we'll see each other again next year good nexus

iam down to 41% with 1h 40min on screen time are you serious? if you want to flash greenify this kernel that. under volt this. undervolt that. just to get good battery life. thats your choice. i am sure lollipop will get many patches to help improve. but 6 inch screen. qhd. i just dont see it improving all that much
[Nexus 6  General] phyba:
I used the nexus root toolkit to flash stock kernel. It does everything for u
[Nexus 6  General] bill3508:
Or just dirty flash the same ROM your on if it came with stock kernel.
[Nexus 6  General] brosenz:
In general how is Battery Life with CM ROMs?, better or worse than Stock ROMs?, thanks
[Nexus 6  General] bill3508:
My life on Lightrom, Franco r26. You can see where I had Franco r25 and then flashed 26 and made some changes to kernel settings. No powersaver, manual sync.
[Nexus 6  General] xXghostXx313:
Has anyone have their google app frozen/disable for better battery?
[Nexus 6  General] bill3508:
I'm sure it will help, its a running service and uses background data. I've still got mine running as I'm on google launcher.
[Nexus 6  General] brosenz:
Where did you download r26?, mine is r25 and the FK app says is the latest, thanks
[Nexus 6  General] bill3508:
Its a couple pages back in his thread. Just listed as boot.IMG. Use flashify to flash it, not a zip.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
r26 is currently just a test kernel, so not avail through the standard channels... Have to dig for it in Franco's thread... Franco occasionally pushes test kernels like this if he's not sure about a fix, or he's wanting to trial some new code with a larger testing group... In this case, there's a new idle patch that came from the kernel upstream he's trying out... (and a couple fixes to some small issues some users were having)
[Nexus 6  General] Delboyd12:
Absolutely puzzled, on the verge of giving up. Back to Chroma and Franco, not seeing any good battery life though. 2 hours SOT. Having to run battery saver at 30%.
[Nexus 6  General] bill3508:
You've got nearly two hours of held awake. That's bad.
[Nexus 6  General] bill3508:
Mine for comparison.
[Nexus 6  General] rrmzr1:
Was experiencing the same battery life. It has gotten better with Franco 26 but still not as good. Msm_hsic_host is keeping my phone awake most of the time. Can't get rid of it
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
You do know that Franco added hooks into his kernel to disable that wakelock entirely, can be toggled using his app (paid version) or via command line (path is listed in his kernel thread here on xda)
[Nexus 6  General] rrmzr1:
But isn't there a chance that u could lose mobile data entirely without noticing it and miss calls and txts because its disabled?
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
That's the theory, haven't seen any proof one way or the other (btw, I'm the one who raised that possibility, the n6 modem is connected via USB like the n4 one and that device was also prone to msm_hsic_host wakelock, a USB wakelock, issues too... But I haven't been able to convince Franco to try working in the n4 patch to see if it helps or not, and my own coding skills haven't been used in nearly 10 years now... )
[Nexus 6  General] rrmzr1:
I guess the only way to see is it test. I'm gonna disable the wake lock and see if there are any changes over a set period.
[Nexus 6  General] bill3508:
Disabling the wakelocs selectors in Franco's app?
[Nexus 6  General] rrmzr1:
Only the one for msm_hsic_host.
[Nexus 6  General] hajabooja:
Any chance a list of descriptions for the wakelocks that are able to be disabled?
[Nexus 6  General] rrmzr1:
I used better battery stats to find it. Got a new wakelock
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
Link?
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
In Franco's kernel thread. :P (search?)
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
Too lazy to type..
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
Would Franco or elemental kernel improve battery life without modifying settings?
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
Short answer: Yes, for both..

Longer answer: yes, most likely, but like all things battery/phone related, how much depends on your phone usage... (heavy, moderate, light, games, Web, text, txt, etc)
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
.Get around 5 To 5.5hr sot On bone stock

Was thinking of flashing Franco on it. I doubt I'd get 6.5 to 8hr sot would I lol
[Nexus 6  General] yellowman82:
This is my battery stats for today. A lot of browsing and 4 hours of streaming music. This is benzo ROM with Zen kernel.
[Nexus 6  General] wrongway213:
Pure SOT browsing XDA on Hydra Kernel and Benzo ROM for an hour.. Didn't even drop below 90%. I dunno how anyone is trying for 3+ hours SOT on this phone.. I sync and use OK Google and all my features, no UC (50k benchmarks still) no Greenify and if I don't get at least 7 hours of SOT I'm not impressed.
[Nexus 6  General] gr33nd3vil:
What settings are you using for hydra
[Nexus 6  General] wrongway213:
Basically defaults. Westwood tcp congestion, USB fast charge, turned up thermal throttling to 80C, Faux Sound up to 6, gentle fair sleepers off, DT2W on - most of the things I've just described should theoretically reduce my battery life or not affect it. Nothing I do to Hydra adds to the battery life I get at all.
[Nexus 6  General] gr33nd3vil:
You like hydra over Franco I take it
[Nexus 6  General] wrongway213:
Yes, the customization options simply meet my personal needs better.
[Nexus 6  General] gr33nd3vil:
Work on stock?
[Nexus 6  General] wrongway213:
I don't go near stock.. would have to check Hydra Kernel thread to see if any use it on stock but I would imagine it does.
[Nexus 6  General] Delboyd12:
Is my two hours of SOT not a reason for RMA? I've tried absolutely everything and simply can't get any higher. I've reflashed different ROMs and kernels but with no success.
[Nexus 6  General] atrix4nag:
I am on benzo rom without adaptive display, no kernel tweaks, I am getting only 3 hours sot with 1 hour calls. Here most of them are getting 6+ sot. What am I missing, please help.
[Nexus 6  General] Delboyd12:
Your held awake time is pretty long, 1 hour 20. Same as mine. Not a clue what is causing it.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
Both: check your wakelocks (partial mostly, these will be the apps and systems that are generally holding the phone awake when idle) sometimes kernel wakelocks go haywire and hold the phone when not needed...

Also, as I've said before, signal quality/strength have a very significant effect on battery life... Think voices, you have to listen harder/pay more attention to someone whose farther away, and speaking at the same volume as someone closer... (signal strength) and at the same time, also have to listen harder/pay more attention to someone whose talking in a noisy room (quality)

Now, I've found where to find signal strength reporting (dbm/asu... Higher values are better) but not signal quality (noise to signal ratio) on our phones...
[Nexus 6  General] atrix4nag:
As per GSAM battery monitor, my phone radio is high for more than 85%, so I think that's a good number.. so I don't think I have a bad signal..

Tonight I generated BBS for the idle time. my phone lost 5% sitting idle over night.
[Nexus 6  General] atrix4nag:
I am also on Hydra Kernel and Benzo ROM, I lost 5% while sleeping. I use greenify, I sync gmail, contacts and calendar. OK google is off. adaptive display is off.

can you tell me what are the settings you have.. also I have more than 85% of the time I m on high signal (4) and more than 95% on signal strength 3 &4 as per GSAM battery stats.

My BBS log is in the above post.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
9 minutes awake in over 5 hrs battery time is fantastic... I see you were on wifi.... Try it again with wifi off..
[Nexus 6  General] atrix4nag:
but I lost 5% in idle, is that good? I am not sure.. here people are getting over 6+ SOT time over 20 hrs of battery time..

right now I am at 77% battery, after 10h 23m with 18m calls, 39m SOT and 36 minutes of awake.

Lets see how much I will get SOT today.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
I lose more than that during idle times... But I'm also a fairly heavy user.. My phone doesn't idle as well as it could due to various tasker profiles I have set up, BT signals that need to be reacted to, etc, etc...

1% per hour idle draw is pretty good.. The best I remember being reported with the n6 is 0.8% per hour...

I usually get about 6 hrs sot over 10 hrs on battery...
[Nexus 6  General] atrix4nag:
Thanks for the response man.. Let me see, if I get that kind of SOT without idle time..
[Nexus 6  General] Pecata:
I will have to agree with you on that as well. I used to be able to go for day and a half to two days with a moderate usage...now I get a day max...Something with the 5.1 updated messed things up with the battery life.

I am hoping since 5.1.1 is around the corner it will fix the issue.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
I've found the opposite... I've managed to ekk out a 9hr sot day with 5.1... I struggled to pass 6 on 5.0
[Nexus 6  General] wrongway213:
To be honest, Tzfardaya is quite right.. your battery stats look great as they are. My settings are located two posts under the one you quoted - I'd type them out here again instead of mentioning that but honestly I don't do anything to my settings that should improve battery life. If you are still curious about my settings, they're back a page - don't think they affect battery positively though. Maybe westwood tcp congestion instead of cubic does.. all the rest is just my personal preferences (and a few things that should actually drain my battery quicker because I like my kernel to be very snappy)
[Nexus 6  General] atrix4nag:
Ok I will test battery for couple of days and will see how much SOT I am getting.. yesterday I got 3hours SOT and 1 hour calls in 24 hours battery time.. (left with 5%) so I think its no way near to 6 hour SOT.

Even now, if I use my phone for 10 minutes continuously I will loose around 4-5% battery.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
What are you doing for that 10 minutes with your phone?
[Nexus 6  General] atrix4nag:
browsing, facebook sometimes twitter.
[Nexus 6  General] phyba:
If you have my luck, you will get about an hour or so less. I get way better performance and battery with stock kernel.

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But he has almost 24 hours off the charger. That's not a lot of wake time at all.
[Nexus 6  General] bill3508:
Right at 7 hrs sot again. I had one hr of watching vids on chrome beta that killed me. May have to go back to cm browser.
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
Stock?
[Nexus 6  General] bill3508:
Lightrom, Franco r26, -50 UV, conservative gov, cfq scheduler, GPU 500, 300-2649, mako hotplug 60% threshold to online all CPUs. Manual sync, only LTE, no WiFi.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
Does the UV actually provide any concrete benefits? Or just reduce system stability/reliability?
[Nexus 6  General] rrmzr1:
I'm still waiting for the downsides of disabling msm_hsic_host wakelock in kernel settings. I ran it disabled all day today and didn't notice anything weird. As soon as I reenable it I get the wake lock almost instantly and my phone won't deep sleep
[Nexus 6  General] gr33nd3vil:
Phone should run still smooth save battery and be just fine.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
Depends on that cpu bin's voltage sensitivity... That - 50 might be enough to power starve the ram causing low memory effects, ram bit decay, or other issues, while not starving the system enough to crash/reboot...

I've played with UV, and ran some pretty math intensive tests on my n5, and found on mine, that even a global -25 was enough to start causing math errors at several frequency steps... (ran a burn in app frequency locked for 60 minutes for each freq for testing.)

Beyond that, I found it had minimal battery charge duration effects.. (maybe an extra 2 or 3 minutes sot per charge... At UV levels that were only barely crash resistent) and almost no effect on generated heat... (again, maybe 1/2 a degree of cpu temp at the same UV levels)

Perhaps on older devices where you could UV by 20-30% it served a purpose, but with the modern devices I've played with, there's almost no benefit to it.
[Nexus 6  General] gr33nd3vil:
Too each there own when I build cm for the LG g2 - 50 gave me 2 days battery and 6+ hours screen
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
And what did you get with the exact same setup, but with no UV?
[Nexus 6  General] gr33nd3vil:
5 hours or less but I also used a custom kernel that was the best for the phone.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
I'm not asking about changing the kernel.. I'm asking.. Running the exact same setup, changing only the UV, what, if any, was the difference in sot/obt?
[Nexus 6  General] gr33nd3vil:
Did you not read I said a hour or so. But it had to use a custom kernel to achieve it with UV
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
Everyone I've asked has never actually tested UV, they UV because they've always uv'ed, or been told it's the best thing since sliced bread...

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So you changed the kernel between not uv'ed and uv'ed States... You don't think that simply charging the kernel would have also had an effect on the sot/obt?
[Nexus 6  General] gr33nd3vil:
No I've tried phones for 72 hours on each kernel I run without UV. Then I'll try it again for another 72 hours uv