yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
ok I will , I am in NC2 and heading back to NJ5, I made a TWRP Backup (the files you looking at) and I did not have a copy the backup to my external sdcard, I thought I could go to the internal sdcard lol,
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
Isn't it 4.4.4 though? And SS isn't compatible with it yet.

from my S5 (of course running Alliance beast, I mean ROM)
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
Several people have posted that assumption but it's not that black and white. There are a few things going on here. Once Carl or someone else tests as I requested I will have a better idea of the issue.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
Test what? I'm going to back up my sht and do your method and update to 4.4.4 and test for ya. Just let me know what need be tested ;)

from my note 3
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
First follow the method in the OP. I replaced my initial release with an upated version this afternoon that will re-push the safestrap files into system. If you are still not able to get the safestrap splash screen push the following files into system manually and set permissions to match the other stock files in the folders: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95784891001614193

system/bin/e2fsck

system/etc/safestrap
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
Gotcha. Waiting for my back up to finish. I takes approximately 20 minutes to finish.

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[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Deadx10:
Muniz, updated to Keeproot v. 2, SS files are in both system/bin and system/ect, still no SS menu.

Btw, thank you for your work.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
No rush, grateful for your help and Carl's.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
Nah man. Thank YOU. You don't even own our device and sitting here smashing fixes for us. Much appreciated.

from my S5 (of course running Alliance beast, I mean ROM)
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
Just to confirm did you remember to set permissions on both files? thx
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Surge1223:
Does manually booting into Safestrap work? To test, type this in terminal:

su
busybox echo 1 > /data/bp-tools
busybox sync

su -c reboot now
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
I'll do that when I'm done flashing the whole thing. Thanks for popping up for help.

from my S5 (of course running Alliance beast, I mean ROM)

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Crap. Will do it tomorrow. Gotta be up at 5 am. Just realized that. LOL

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[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
No worries, fyi....I'm working on something else and may need your help testing.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
I'll be here to help bro. I get off of work at 3 pm. Just shoot me a pm and we will go at it.

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[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mikep90:
So this is what we got so far root and a way to downgrade but trying to figure out how to get safestrap work. Is this where we stand
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] nemesisgx:
i just test it mate and it doesnt work all it does is just reboot . its like its not there at all .. it makes no sense . ill keep checking

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yeah but at least we got root and we can do alittle more then stock .lets put all our heads toguether and figure this sht out..:D
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Deadx10:
muniz, would this be correct, attached pics?

Tested, just rebooted without menu.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
The e2fsck file is right on. But can you post a pic of the "safestrap" folder in etc? I'm not concerned with the files inside the folder. Thank you.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Deadx10:
Please see the attached pic.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
Thank you for that. That confirms it is the highjack that is no longer working and not missing files. Very no bueno! I'm working on a solution and will reach out for help testing. Thanks again!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
I think it has something to do about the file system, after the patching I rebooted without the NJ5 bootloader or kernel, safeStrap recovery screen still poped up and I went into recovery. normally when I install a clean rom, I never install SafeStrap apk, safestrap recovery is what's always renamed e2fsck to e2fsck.bin and then copyed it's e2fsck ( which is a readable script)

well the new file system did not allow it to copy the e2fsck file. I wonder if doing a log file will show something.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
You may be onto something and yes, if you are willing to go back to NC2, reflash the keeproot file, reboot into safestrap and capture the log I can review it. Thank you,

EDIT: actually if you can hold off, I will upload a new version of the keeproot. Just had an idea.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
I did not have to reinstall NC2, just replacing kernel and bloader with NC@'s , it booted back to Safestrap
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
I'm certain its the new kernel preventing the highjack but to confirm can you flash back just the nj5 bootloader and see what happens? I will also review the log. thx
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] bongra80:
I have went back to NC2stock Rom and it have ask me to system update I went thru the process but it just left be back with the same NC2 software. May anyone know the cause of this?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Surge1223:
We need last kmsg right after a boot on nj5. After booting up

su

cat /proc/last_kmsg >/sdcard/last_kmsg.txt

Also does the /ss dir exist?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
there is no last_kmsg

SS folder is there but nothing in it

root@hlteatt:/ # cat /proc/last_kmsg >/sdcard/last_kmsg.txt

cat /proc/last_kmsg >/sdcard/last_kmsg.txt

tmp-mksh: cat: /proc/last_kmsg: No such file or directory
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
Well I will test and play more tomorrow, so far putting NC2 kernel and bootloader back, gets safestrap back, then you can do a backup of NJ5, then install any update or mod then reinstall NJ5 kernel

and bootloader. I think that's the work around we have. Tomorrow I will test that..
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] jkleinknecht:
Help with this

I am running a stock rom on my note 3 with android 4.3 rooted and safestraped, I am not sure what i should do to get to 4.4.4 and keep my root.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Surge1223:
If the SS folder is still there the hijack is prob still working. The problem is that it probably can't execute or has a perms issue in the data directory. The e2fsck creates the ss directory during early boot. So like I said, likely a perms or no execute flag somewhere in data or system. I'll make a debug e2fsck that will help narrow down the exact issue that will need patching tomorrow.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
N900A_NJ5_Stock_Deodexed_Rooted_ROM.zip

I made this using your nandroid if anyone coming from NC2 wants to try flashing and seeing if there is any difference in safestrap's function on 4.4.4:

1. Place onto ext sdcard

2. Go into safestrap and do an Advanced Wipe and wipe everything but extsdcard.

3. Flash the ROM in stock slot.

4. Press "Home" amd go into download mode and flash the N900A_NJ5_Stock_Kernel.tar.md5
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] nemesisgx:
unfortunately we need to wait till towel root and safetrap is updated to 4.4.4 .. now the question is who is incharge of updating safe trap now
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Walter.White:
Towel root is done. The dude works for Google now. As far as the SS goes..our good old buddy [MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION] is taking care of it..along with [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION]
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
Should this be flashed after the keeproot update or just on top of NC2 without the keeproot?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] nemesisgx:
well thats a good thing.. we just have to keep trying ...

:good:
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
No need to flash keeproot with the rom. You can flash like any other rom but just flash the nj5 kernel immediately after.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
I'm guessing just flash the rom and before booting up put the phone in DL mode and flash kernel, right? I'll do that this afternoon after work.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
Correct, thx.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Namelesswonder:
So I'm on the MLG bootloader with no intentions to upgrade to NC2 or NJ5, but I have tried flashing the NJ5 kernel to see what happens and what happened is that my phone boot looped. I'm not sure what would happen for people on the NC2 bootloader, but that is what happened to me. So yeah that might indicate they changed some things in the kernel. Also [MENTION=5575828]Walter.White[/MENTION] , will it be possible to create a NJ5 modem file to flash? I looked inside the zip and found that they were patch files, so we would be able to construct one, right?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] orphan203:
If you took the NJ5 ota can you just use towelroot to root the device? Not concerned about safestrap just root access
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] dandroid7:
Orphan203...

No. Towelroot will not root 4.4.4

Have to follow directions in OP to get root.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
One more thing....after flashing the rom and before exiting safestrap to go into download mode, can you go into safestrap's "advanced" menu then "copy log to sd" and send me the log? thx.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] bongra80:
step 4 when you mention download mode is this the mode for Odin?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
correct
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
I should also mention that if the rom fails you will be soft bricked so if you decide to help test you must be prepared for the possibility of having to odin back to stock. thx
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mmessina:
What MOD ROM's if any can be flashed after rooted OTA 4.4.4 ?:cool:
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
Gotcha. Just got home from work. remind me again what I need to do, please. I'm on pure NC2 with only root and safestrap. Ready to go.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
Correct.

This should sum it up. Thx.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
Just did it and the phone has booted up. I'm setting up now. Didn't see any SS splash screen, though. After I flashed the kernel (NJ5) the phone booted up to the "samsung galaxy note 3" splash screen (with the custom sign on the bottom) and it went dark for a split second then went back to the same galaxy note 3 screen. I'm guessing it tried to bring up the SS splash screen but something stopped it. What else do you need me to do, sir?

from my S5 (of course running Alliance beast, I mean ROM)

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[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
Hmm, no bueno. Once you set-up see if you can reinstall safestrap via the apk. Once I see the log I will see if there is anything else we can do.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] orphan203:
Did update. No SS but it is rooted. Good enough for now. A lot faster to me. Thanks. Look forward to SS
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
Here ya go recovery log

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You took the Ota update then rooted? Did you use towelroot?

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@muniz_ri it says "installed" but it doesn't boot to SS. Do you rhino it's safe to reflash the NC2 kernel back on top of this? LOL
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] tdizzle404:
will rooting the ota trip knox?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
No, I just added a note to that effect in the OP. Thx
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
Yes, Carl was able to Odin flash back the NC2 Kernel and the ss splash screen came up upon reboot. Not much of a solution but so far it is what it is. Also, do you have any experience using ADB?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
Is it the same as CMD?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
No, but it's ok. Im going to take a break from all of this for now. Maybe pick it up next week. Thanks again for all the help.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Hoyt Thompson:
I want to thank everyone for the work here to retain or regain root on the AT&T Note 3, I had to fall back to a stock setup of NC2 to get the package to flash but it is currently doing so and Odin is at the ready to flash the NJ5 kernel. While Safestrap is nice to have root is the most important to me as I will not allow all the bloatware to run draining my resources.

Thanks to Muniz-Ri I have setup my wifes S4 and now my N3 to 4.4.4 and root permissions. Thank you for all that you do and are currently working on sir!!!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
No worries, thanks for the nice note!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
Added "Alternative Custom ROM" Method to OP.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] dandroid7:
muniz_ri

In the "Alternative Custom ROM" method of install - will we still be able to boot into safestrap at step 7?

I was under the impression (from reading every post in this thread) that once you flash the nj5 kernel that you cannot boot into safestrap. If you can't boot safestrap, then you cant restore the data that you previously backed up in safestrap.

I want to try this method but wanted to confirm that Im understanding the process correctly and that it does work as described.

Thanks for all your hard work on this. You have done an awesome job keeping our N3 current.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
lol, good catch! I cut and paste the process from other devices I have supported. Can you instead see if you are able to restore data immediately after flashing the ROM and let us know? thx
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] dandroid7:
I'm going in deep... gonna try it right now... will report back in a bit.

Wish me luck...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
thx, I will also try it on my S5 to confirm.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mmessina:
Does anyone have link for Odin nc2 kernel? Thank you
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] nickelocene:
Thanks for the quick solution. I'm about to follow the instruction before I saw the note that the safestrap wont' work anymore. So, for the safestrap doesn't work anymore part, is that due to this process or just the current version of safestrap doens't work with 4.4.4?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
Confirmed it works. I will update the instructions in the OP. Thx for the heads-up!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] dandroid7:
No matter which method is used to get to 4.4.4 on our AT&T Note 3 - Safestrap does not currently work with Android 4.4.4 on our device (at this time).

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SWEET!!! That's great news.

I will report back in a few on if it works for me...

I didn't have enough free space on my ext-sd card to backup my data... had to move stuff and make space for the backup.

I'm backing up the data in safestrap right now - its almost 5gb, so it will take a bit of time. Will report back in a bit on if it works to restore it before odin flashing the nj5 kernel (as it worked for you on your S5).

back in a few...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
What do you guys mean by user data? And how do you back it up to through safestrap? Is it like a Nandroid backup for my current rom that I'd try to restore or what?

from my S5 (of course running Alliance beast, I mean ROM)
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
That's exactly right. See the "Alternative" instructions in the OP for the step-by-step.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
But how can restore a 4.4.2 rom on top of a 4.4.4 rom? Wouldn't that Cause issues?

from my S5 (of course running Alliance beast, I mean ROM)
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] dandroid7:
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

I can confirm that the "Alternative Custom ROM Method" of install worked for me. I'm typing this message right now on my ROOTED 4.4.4 Galaxy Note 3 sm-n900a, after completing the install process.

Thank you muniz_ri for all your hard work.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
Correct, it would cause issues and won't boot unless you revert back to the NC2 kernel and even then wifi will not work. However for the purpose of this guide we are only using the back-up function for user data not system.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
Oh I see. I didn't even know that I can actually back up user data to safestrap. I don't know how to do that.

from my S5 (of course running Alliance beast, I mean ROM)
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] jeraldbro:
Thk u! This method worked for me. I reinstalled NC2 than converted to 4.4.4

Gr8 job!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] nickelocene:
So, what's the difference between method 1 and the alt method? For what I can understand, Method 1 won't wipe any data, just like a typical OTA, while Alt method will wipe. Then, my question is why use alt method, as long as Method 1 works?:confused:
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
Method 2 was devloped as a test to see if it would relax the new selinux policies that are the likely cause of why safestrap does not work on 4.4.4.

I added Method 2 to the OP because Method 1 requires that you are 100% Stock NC2. Many are not and have to Odin back to factory stock NC2 before usng Method 1.

Method 2 provides a more direct path than having to first Odin back to factory stock NC2. Make sense.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] nickelocene:
Totally make sense now. Once again, thanks for the great work.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
[MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] I don't see a link to NC2 kernel in op. I don't know which file is the kernel out of the 4 files in the thread linked in op

from my S5 (of course running Alliance beast, I mean ROM)
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95784891001613847
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mikep90:
So if we install the rooted rom and wanted to go back to nc2 can we restore our backup from nc2 or we have to flash nc2 files in odin and also a side note on that if so will everything be back on nc2

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If we would flash the nc2 kernel and safestrap will work again and by doing that the restore will work from nc2
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] paypalbid:
i got error

Error flashing zip /sdcard/n900A....

Updating partition details...

E: Unable to mount internal storage

choose internal storage and still error flashing zip

updating partition details...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
you install the NC2 kernel and when you get in safestrap do a backup so you have the NJ5 4.4.4 backed up then restore your NC2 backup.

also until we get a safestrap you will have to copyy the custom rom or add-on etc.. to your sdcard while your still running 4.4.4 , the install the NC2 kernel, then boot into safestrap install new custom rom or add-on etc.. then back to download mod to install NJ5 kernel to boot NJ5

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some how you wiped your internal sdcard, you will most likly have to reinstall NC2 to get to reinstall safestrap
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mikep90:
Yeah I'm on nc2 and was going to make a backup of dk 7.1 and flash the rooted 4.4.4 rooted rom you made to try it out and than I was going to restore my backup from dk 7.1 4.4.2 I made after I was done trying out 4.4.4
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
soon as my 4.4.4 updates from the playstore I will boot back to safestrap and backup.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mikep90:
And to do that after you have 4.4.4 everything you have to install nc2 kernel in odin to have ss back but everything else be 4.4.4 but the kernel.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
yes you only need the NC2 kernel to use the safestrap for NJ5 4.4.4

about a minute extra work to get to use safestrap on 4.4.4
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
This is off topic, please post in Q&A.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
The update will also update your non-hlos to NJ5 so your wifi will not work after restoring your NC2 backup. You will need to also Odin back to the NC2 modem including non-hlos.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mikep90:
OK I'm trying to get a better understanding of all this. I want to try it out for a second and than go back to my backup rom I made. I wants quite sure what would be the way of doing this. I just got comftible with nc2 and flashing roms now we have this new update and I don't know from going to one the other and vice versa.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] carl1961:
[MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION]

No issue with WiFi when going back to NC2, only need to change Kernel back to NC2 you also do not have to switch bootloader, NC2 runs fine on new bootloader from 4.4.4

So Running NJ5 4.4.4 we only need to switch back to NC2 kernel to use Safestrap.

So dev can customize 4.4.4 with only a couple minutes of inconvenience of switching kernels.

Now if someone wipes the data partition then he is forced to start over with NC2 firmware to get safestrap installed again, (but thats the same if you was running NC2)
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] muniz_ri:
If what you are saying is that after flashing back the NC2 kernel and using safestrap to restore a backup of NC2, the NC2 modules continue to be compatible with the NJ5 non-hlos then I'm glad to here it. I think that was the original question.

As for your work-around.....you guys have at it and have fun. I will let everyone know if I get any ideas pertaining to safestrap but not having the device is going to make it very difficult to look for a solution. Thanks brutha for all of your contributions!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
I'm confused. So now let's say I'm running alliance rom, I can just flash NJ5 kernel the the 4.4.4 rom the I'd be able to restore my back up of Alliance?

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Never mind I get it now. Do the whole 4.4.4 process then flash NC2 kernel back on to get safestrap working? Will it function fine on the mix of the NJ5 bootloader and NC2 kernel?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] kc2kzz:
I did the alternative method and it worked. I did get a Sim card missing message, I rebooted and so far hasn't come back. Couple things to note. If you upgraded to the google now lollipop launcher, you should downgrade prior, otherwise you will get the google search has stopped responding messages. Also you need to reapply the sdcard fix as well.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] killacam1989:
Yeah just kill that sht and odin back and try again. Back up all your files in Titainium and copy the folder with all of those contents to your external sd

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It sounds like its crazy...buutt it does make sense. Until safestrap can be upgraded to 4.4.4 NJ5, safestrap designed for 4.4.2 will need NC2 for 4.4.2...but for some reason i believe long term there might be problems because its 2 different firmware versions. Any new Roms will be on 4.4.4. Since we cant flash the 4.4.4 kernel to match, it would cause instability UI issues and force closes not to mention we couldn't even boot into safestrap to begin with.

In essence for right now, the only beneficial part of doing this would be an upgraded modem. Kernel support would be downgraded...allowing 4.4.2 roms to flash and everything would still be compatible. Only issue is that we cant flash 4.4.4 roms because they will need 4.4.4 kernel for compatibility...and since safestrap is stuck on 4.4.2 there would be no way to flash 4.4.4 without the system going haywire because of an incompatible kernel. This sht got my head hurting.

Moral of the story, Get safestrap updated to latest TWRP and have it supported for 4.4.4 aka NJ5. And theeennn..."We might be in business my friend" -in my arab voice-

*FIN* :D
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] K-alz:
That's what muniz_ri and surge1223 are doing. They're working on getting SS compatible with the new kernel.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] killacam1989:
Thats wassup hope they succeed. If they do they will be the next epic devs aside from Hashcode for ATT note 3 community