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[Nexus 6  General] Kellic:
Hiya folks,

Killing time waiting for my Nexus 6 64GB to arrive Friday. Meanwhile I've been going over the results in this thread. Interesting stuff. A couple addition things I've been seeing in my travels on the Nexus 6 searching. The first being there appears to be issue with memory management and WIFI. Both of which could account for some of the "poor" <---note the quotes. battery life some are seeing. I noted that someone was getting less then impressive battery life from being on WIFI only.

5.1 appears to be slated to address a number of possible issues seen in this thread:

Silent mode added after missing on Android 5.0

General improvements in system stability

Improved RAM management

Fixes for sudden app closures

Improved battery management

Excessive consumption of network devices when used Wi-Fi fixed

Issues with wireless connections fixed

Problems with Okay Google function solved

Notifications problems solved

Some sound problems experience by certain devices fixed

Other improvements and changes

Changes in the Material Design color palette (after users complaints, possibly for a higher version though)

http://www.androidpit.com/android-5-1-lollipop-update

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...roid-one-phones-coming-soon-to-nexus-devices/

Android 5.1; Nexus 5 Build/LMY29C

Android 5.1; Nexus 6 Build/LMY29C

Android 5.1; Nexus 6 Build/LMY29D

Android 5.1; Nexus 9 Build/LMY22E

Android 5.1; Nexus 6 Build/LMY22E

Highlights by me for relevance. So for those who are looking at the Note 4 (I'm currently on a 3.) and going why oh why didn't I.....I wouldn't sweat it. I'd bet $20 that 5.1 is going to help with overall battery life on the Nexus 6. Android 5 has been a painful upgrade for Google. Almost as bad as Honeycomb....or was it ICS? In any case Its going to be interesting to see 5.1 once its released into the wild.

*goes back to clicking refresh on Fedex's page and mutters something about wanting transporter tech NOW.*
[Nexus 6  General] jbdan:
Thanks kellic! Looking good, look forward!
[Nexus 6  General] jrod3737:
Memory Management and Battery Life

Kellic, I picked up my N6 from the T-Mobile store in the Quarry 3 weeks ago. My impressions on memory and battery are that there's not a ton to worry about.

Regarding memory, every once and a while I notice that it appears that my N6 has rebooted. The way I notice this is I have an app that starts at boot that I often turn off. All of the sudden I notice that it's running. So either my phone rebooted or the app restarted by itself. Basically, it hasn't been a problem. It hasn't rebooted in the middle of me doing something.

Regarding battery, I'm a medium-intensity user. I'm used to plugging in my phone every night when I go to bed. I'm not using my phone all the time for everything. My previous phone was a GS3 (t999), and it would often be between 25 and 50% when I went to bed, with the occasional sub-15%. I would often plug it in while using Waze on my commute. My N6 has been between 40 and 65% every night for the past 3 weeks. I've considered not plugging it in at night, but then the next day I'd be stressed out over needing to plug it in. And I haven't been plugging in my N6 while using Waze on my commute.

In short, I'd love it to be "better" because "better" is "better." But for me these two items have been non-issues.
[Nexus 6  General] greenro89:
Anyone else having NLP run wild? Seriously, its like once a minute ?
[Nexus 6  General] wrongway213:
NLP default literally is once a minute, that's unfortunately normal.
[Nexus 6  General] greenro89:
Sad.. Do you know why that is? I suppose I should just turn off location then, I hardly need it besides for weather.
[Nexus 6  General] wrongway213:
Truthfully, the best answer I can give you is that Google services is the natural enemy of battery life and also because Google wants to monitor our every move every second everywhere in the world... and (I personally find this scary) they're doing an excellent job of it.
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
5.1 out yet? Lol
[Nexus 6  General] anthonyg45157:
THIS X1000. Well put and very true. :thumbup:

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
Let's disable it
[Nexus 6  General] wrongway213:
No, let's not lol. Disabling NLP disables all location based services, OK Google, etc. You may miss it. Xposed is coming back for Lollipop - it was just announced today. When Xposed comes back there will likely be a module like there was on Kit Kat with Amplify where you can choose to change the wakelock interval from the default 60 seconds to something more reasonable. On the last Amplify default was 4 minutes for NLP wakelocks, GREAT battery life but everything still worked all the time.
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
Not rooted lol
[Nexus 6  General] tjohnsonjr:
This is my battery life with my own source built AOSP ROM with the stock kernel
[Nexus 6  General] warrenis1234:
Franco is also testing removing the msc data wake lock, hit his thread to test it
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
Please test incoming calls as well (in situations you know trigger the msm_hsic_host wakelock)
[Nexus 6  General] warrenis1234:
I'm not gonna test it myself yet because we have to fastboot the image and I'm lazy. for those who want to test it and aren't sure how, you can use the wugfresh toolkit, in advanced settings

also I'm still testing lean kernel's removal of sensor_ind
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
Install using flashify, fku, fastboot... Apparently newest versions of twrp can install IMG files...
[Nexus 6  General] Gage_Hero:
Hey Tzfardaya, sort of battery related, I am in Calgary also, running on stock, lte in the office runs in the high 90dbm to over 100 in some areas which tends to suck the battery down pretty quickly. Are you finding the samething or is there some sort of fix? download speed is around low 20s, since your in the same city, just wondering how you find it? I know there is a lte speed thread but I did a search on Telus and there doesn't seem to be any posts for it.....
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
I'm on Rogers, and don't monitor the signal values... But I know that my reception (courier downtown, in and out of all those office towers) is why I only manage 4-5 hours of sot at work...
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
All I have to say Franco r15 (test)is amazing. Not only does it tame that sensor ind, so you can get off ambient display, it seems to really tame the location as well, but that's probably because the phone sleeps better. I can finally keep location on all the time. The micro managing is coming to an end for now. Probably be a whole set of different issues after 5.1 comes out to tackle.
[Nexus 6  General] gmelchert:
Just your everyday, snatchchatting, sexting, porn watching and some good ol' phone sex. Finally seeing 5+ hours screen on time. Franco r12 with vomer, quarter brightness with everything on except Bluetooth and OK google detection everywhere. No micro managing.
[Nexus 6  General] wrongway213:
Yeah Franco and Lean are both absolutely incredible with wakelock disabled, down to personal preference at this point and no need to micromanage whatsoever :D believe others will follow their lead, at least on sensor_ind (the only wakelock I disable and only one I need to for crazy battery life)
[Nexus 6  General] kava1:
got a full day of usage yesterday
[Nexus 6  General] Jay01:
Here's couple of apps I've installed on my N6, might be worth trying out:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teqtic.leandata

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sebouh00.smartwifitoggler
[Nexus 6  General] bigant262:
I usually get this type of battery life no matter your what I do. How are people getting 5 hours? I don't even game on my phone really, sometimes not even at all.
[Nexus 6  General] New Rising:
How do you only get that much battery life? On Lean kernel I'm always at 50% with 3 hours screen on time.
[Nexus 6  General] neriamarillo:
Guys code_blue kernel will release soon with the sensor_ind fix, shut it down. Just a heads up for some of those who use it.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
Probably the same way I do... Crap mobile signal..
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
2.7hr at 50% bone stock
[Nexus 6  General] Moggser:
hello again folks this problem is still persisting with my device, ive tried a calibration app for the crack and just waiting for the battery to get near the dreaded 8-9% to see if it dies .... also it drops at 11 now so there is something spooky going on with it
[Nexus 6  General] tmrma:
Testing the kernel with disabled msm_hsic_host. Herr there is problems with incoming calls.
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
I've been running the kernel with both wakelocks disabled, had no issues and been on 3g all day for the past 2 days
[Nexus 6  General] dcemtp1:
How is 4hr and 24 mins SOT until 0% with Netflix running for 4hr15min?
[Nexus 6  General] Bluemgt06:
My battery is starting to die at 5% and I've only had it since mid December.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
Might want to post that in Franco's thread... He's not watching this one.

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Starting to die how?
[Nexus 6  General] Bluemgt06:
It goes "powering off" when it gets to 5%. Then won't cut on, gives the low battery icon.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
To me, that sounds like a bad battery calibration... Run it down completely like that, then use the slowest charger you have to charge it back to 100% then run it back down to dead... Do that a couple times and that should fix the calibration issues... But... Apparently there are kernel issues that may be involved too... Franco has reverted a couple patches, make a couple other patches to try to fix this too..
[Nexus 6  General] Bluemgt06:
I just checked FKupdater and there's an update for my kernel. The change log says something about an issue with the device when the battery is low.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
Yes, I know, I've grabbed that update already, and we've talked about it a couple times in Franco's thread.. Apparently there's some odd things happening under low battery States that affect the power rails... I haven't dug that deeply into it, as I've never had my phone power off except at 0%
[Nexus 6  General] Bluemgt06:
Was working fine under Sensei kernel but when it changed to despair my device kept rebooting every little bit (couldn't get a log and dev wasn't so helpful) so I had to switch.
[Nexus 6  General] dcemtp1:
If I'm only getting 4hrs and 10-20 min of sot should I exchange it since I still have 5 days before I can't
[Nexus 6  General] orange-man1:
I have a 5 day old unit, stock OS, 75-85% brightness averaging around 4.25 hrs sot.

Today I got to 5.33 hrs sot, and I turned it off with 6% battery left so I probably would have gotten to 5.5.
[Nexus 6  General] Moggser:
so glad to hear that i am not the only one with this issue, i have tried as you mentioned the slow charge then drain and charge again several times and for me it was a failure ive ran it in safe mode to and same **** happened too so ive sent it back to motorola UK and see what they have to say on the matter.

i shall let y'all know what they say it was
[Nexus 6  General] dcemtp1:
Then I'm definitely going to take it back for a new one, are you rooted at all?
[Nexus 6  General] orange-man1:
No, never rooted.
[Nexus 6  General] trainplane3:
I got like 2 hours SOT yesterday with it dying at 5% and I just received my N6 on Monday. I have Verizon and while the signal is good at my house, I do notice it constantly dropping and grabbing LTE. I know bars aren't a good way to measure reception but I get 3-4 on all of my devices. It is unlocked and rooted, but nothing else aside from that. I'll dump it back to 100% stock if I need to.
[Nexus 6  General] orange-man1:
Today I'm having a completely different kind of day that makes me think screen on time is overrated. Yesterday I was home all day and on wifi, using my phone constantly and I got over 5 hrs sot. Today I was out of the house all day never on wifi and looking at my screen much less. I would say I am at the halfway point of my day. I have 63% battery but only 1.25 hrs sot. If I stay out the rest of the day, the battery would do its job and carry me through the day but I might get 2.5 hrs sot.

My point is some days we are on wifi other times not, some days we use our screens a disproportionately high amount. I don't think there is a magic sot figure. There are too many variables and I just experienced it firsthand in back to back days. I suppose if you can never have a day over 4 hours under any conditions that might be a problem, but in my experience, usage patterns are a huge factor.
[Nexus 6  General] chris23445:
I've been having pretty poor battery life. I had a Blue 32GB and had great battery, then switched to the White 64GB. I have Verizon, and right now I have 51% battery with 1h 26m screen time. The phone has been on for about 10 hours. I keep data, location, bluetooth, and Wifi all off unless I am using them, and I haven't used much data in the past day. Just checking Instagram and emails. Otherwise I have only used the phone to play a game for 11 minutes, and to text people.

I have Ambient Display and Adaptive Brightness on, and I'm on franco kernel r17 with interactive governor. I tried conservative governor for a while and the battery was the same if not worse. I can get 2 hours of screen time but I don't get anywhere near 3 on this device, let alone the 4 or 5 hours you are all seeing. Does anyone have any tips? I'm really confused. I am running stock btw, no ROM here.
[Nexus 6  General] Damon13:
Have you tried Lean Kernel V1.14? battery life has been great for me. You just need to Down load terminal emulator and through LKconfig you can disable a few wakelocks that are quite problematic. I am also on Verizon.

Francos kernel is pretty darn good and it's also fast and great with battery.
[Nexus 6  General] chris23445:
Currently on Franco kernel with the poor battery life. I have not tried Lean as I really like the features of Franco.
[Nexus 6  General] dcemtp1:
Yeah I noticed the same thing when I'm at work, my sot is significantly less but I thought it was because I'm constantly on Spotify and that's draining my battery rather then the screen. But when I'm on WiFi the whole day, with regular use at home I can't get more then 4 anyway so I'll see how the new unit is and if its around the same I won't worry about it and just root it, run bliss or slim with the lean kernel

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Does Snapchat drain you guys battery more than the screen?
[Nexus 6  General] bwheelies:
I was scared with regards to battery life after all of the BS people have posted about this phone. I did a trip from Las Vegas to southern Utah. Left at 6am and got home at 8:30pm. 1.5 hours screen on time. A lot of picture taking.

Got home to 38% battery left. It will suffice for my work.
[Nexus 6  General] wrongway213:
People just wanted this phone to be the second coming - if the N6 on a good ROM/kernel combo isn't enough to get you through an average day's use, you are definitely not an average user... BS is exactly what it is, that and unrealistic expectations - people who wanted Note 4s should have went to Samsung, not Google/Motorola.
[Nexus 6  General] dannieloco:
So stick to amplify now, is a good idea? I want better battery life.

IM running Franco and debating which to governor to run, interactive or conservative?
[Nexus 6  General] wrongway213:
Yes, Amplify is MUCH less likely to cripple your phone - you have to really mess up the settings in Amplify to do the kind of damage you would outright disabling all sorts of services. As for Franco, I'd recommend conservative.. Franco's stock settings are generally optimal. Combine with VomerTweaks if you still cannot get the battery life you desire.
[Nexus 6  General] dannieloco:
Ok cool, then I just reset the Franco r15 back to stock settings and have VOmer on VT Dynamic. Ill give this a go. Honestly trying to get battery life like I had with the OnePlus. I used to get 30 hour battery and haven't been able to get that on nexus yet :/ thanks!

Ill give Amplify a try
[Nexus 6  General] wrongway213:
Amplify, Vomer Dynamic, Franco on conservative, and if you don't use wearables I suggest downloading the Disable Services app and disabling all the wearable services, the config services and the fitness services. That's the best battery life you can get without losing any features, in my personal opinion. If you want to get even more juice there's more you can do, but it's gonna start knocking features off at that point - it's up to you what's more impotant.
[Nexus 6  General] funkpod:
Generally speaking, how much of a battery improvement will I get if I simply use stock rom with Franco kernel at default settings? I only get 3 hours usage if i drain the battery down to 0%.
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
There is no "generally speaking" it all depends on how you use the phone. If you're a heavy gamer/power user, you might see a 5-10% gain in battery life. . If you only run light apps, read books, text etc, you might see 25-50% gain in battery life.
[Nexus 6  General] spinkick:
Dont forget to disable ambient screen, especially if you also use a wearable.

I wiped my phone today and put cleanrom on along with leankernal and I'm getting close to 5 hours of screen life. I run exchange push, google inbox. Greenify facebook as well as disable all notification sync for that app. no google plus. Runs pretty damn good i must say.

Oh, on leankernal I have all wakelocks disabled or set to 1000 (which makes it barely fire). no problems with calls or data.
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
Ambient display is a battery hog. I replaced it with dynamic notifications and easily gained 30 to 45 minutes of screen time.
[Nexus 6  General] chris23445:
Just curious, does anyone else lose about 8% battery when they are asleep? I went to bed with 75% and put the phone on airplane, and I woke up at 67%. The only two things scheduled in the night are Titanium Backup and a text backup, neither of which caused this much of a drain on my S4. I have Greenify on my phone too.
[Nexus 6  General] spinkick:
Are you encrypted? That would explain the loss if you are running a backup routine at night. I usually charge over night so no big deal.
[Nexus 6  General] mattykellyuk:
Has anyone changed the resolution to 1080p? I'm waiting for my nexus 6 to be delivered and wondering whether to do this as well as in unencrypt?
[Nexus 6  General] chris23445:
I am encrypted. But, I've had it set to not backup at night before, and even on airplane I lost more than 5% battery. I just find it very odd and annoying for my percentage to drop so much with nothing going on.
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
I'm waiting for 5.1 volte/WiFi calling/band 12 update to arrive before I try
[Nexus 6  General] bwheelies:
Completely stock with some stuff I don't use disabled. Auto brightness set just below half. I also use my Droid Maxx charger instead of the turbo charger.

For a big badass screen this thing acquits itself well.

Glad I didn't listen to all the BS whiners posting in the N6 forums. Loving this thing.
[Nexus 6  General] dislplin01:
Well as someone who is coming from the LG G3 I can say that the battery life is definitely not as good my g3 which is pretty disappointing because it had a bigger battery so I thought it would at least be the same. Now I have only had the phone for a few days and am still settling in but my battery life is much worse, I'm hoping it will find a rhythm in time but we will see.

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] dannieloco:
I think it's your setup.. my gf has the LG G3 and she isn't the type to be on her phone all day. After putting lollipop and a kernel on it, the battery life is still bad. It needs an afternoon charge.

As far as the N6, Im liking this rom, with the franco kernel, Vomer Tweaks and Amplify. Ive gained a lot of battery life, especially when the phone sleeps.
[Nexus 6  General] supercluver:
I've never used Xposed before, was it pretty easy to set up to get Amplify working? I know I could gain a decent amount of battery life with that, but haven't ever tinkered with it.
[Nexus 6  General] EasyDeath:
auto brightness on 35%+ wifi all day

i'm on cyanogenmod 12 (2015/02/13 nightly) + google now launcher

for now i'm happy with this rom, maybe i'll update when i see problems or annoying bugs
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
nearly 10 hours SOT in less than a 24 hour period? GET A LIFE!!

/jealous :P
[Nexus 6  General] EasyDeath:
Was home because ill, so i used the phone to find a new girlfriend, and it worked, when I said that I love her, she wrote me back "I love you too", best day ever :)
[Nexus 6  General] dislplin01:
Yea I don't know it's a pretty basic set up, Franco Kernel and CM12 all the same apps I usually use, I actually think it's the amoled screen but I love the phone so it's cool
[Nexus 6  General] dannieloco:
I had some issues setting it up but eventually got xposed running. Amplify has helped my battery a lot so its def worth getting xposed running.

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I've been using all the dark inverted apps. Wondering if that even helps my battery life at all. Amoled is suppose to save battery if you have black apps I heard.
[Nexus 6  General] kidruk:
Something may be wrong with her setup. My G3 Lasts 15+ hrs daily easily. I've gotten 7 Hours of SOT with the thing.
[Nexus 6  General] funkpod:
So what's wrong with my phone here, only 24 min OST, but like 40% drain in 7 hours... Is it my cell reception? Yellow and red is bad? Think Franco kernel might help?
[Nexus 6  General] chris23445:
Are you having any weird bugs with Xposed or Amplify? I just want to make sure it won't make my phone restart randomly or mess up. I love Amplify and want to get it working again.
[Nexus 6  General] dannieloco:
No I'm not. everything seems to be running just fine. Give it a try! currently with xposed, many users have to do a hot reboot from within the xposed app to have it function normally. Im assuming in the next build, that problem will eventually be fixed.
[Nexus 6  General] Gage_Hero:
It doesn't help, try switching to 3G and see if it makes a difference, mine used to be similar but not quite as bad, I had some green mixed in with the orange and red.... switching to 3g it's all green..... It is doubtful a kernel change will do anything for reception, that is all on location and the modem,....
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
Has anyone noticed on their bbs lately that Google search is at the top of processes? Usually it's system and surface flinger followed by words with friends. Google search rarely even gets in the top 5. It's been consistently number 3 days or so now.
[Nexus 6  General] Damon13:
I am glad you brought it up, I have been having the same issue since I updated Google services and Google search.
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
I don't what could be causing it or what impact it will have. Everything so far doesn't seem far from the norm. It's just something I noticed.
[Nexus 6  General] BladeRunner:
The signal doesn't help but look at your awake time compared to your SOT, something is holding your phone awake. Figure that out and you'll see a definite improvement.
[Nexus 6  General] funkpod:
Thanks for the reply. Definitely thought it was weird. Do you recommend an app that detects that?
[Nexus 6  General] BladeRunner:
GSAM battery monitor with the GSAM root companion, and better battery stats are good options
[Nexus 6  General] funkpod:
Thanks, it seems both need root? I haven't rooted yet. Doh. Guess I should?
[Nexus 6  General] Tzfardaya:
Don't be so judgemental... Some of us work on our phones, during an 8 hr shift I'll usually have 3-5 hours of screen on time.
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
I was joking with him thus the jealous and funny face. ?
[Nexus 6  General] bwheelies:
I pulled off 6.5 hours screen on from 1 am to 8pm.

Stock locked.