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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hacksaw999:
This was a big factor in my decision to upgrade from my old Galaxy Nexus right now rather than waiting. After reading what Chainfire had to say about how locked down Lollipop is I figured it would be a good idea to make the switch now before all the phones are unable to be rooted.

I had really thought I was going to buy an LG G3, but it took long enough for root to be achieved on that phone that better specced phones were just about to be released. I missed the first round of Note 4 DE's, but kept checking and was lucky enough to get one in the second round. Right now UPS has it and says it should arrive on Tuesday.

I expect that it will be rooted within 30 minutes of delivery unless the battery needs charging. Then I'll be able to breath easy again for another few years.

At this point I've only heard of one Lollipop feature that particularly interests me (RAW mode for camera) but even that is no big deal. So even if Lollipop somehow never made it onto the Dev Ed it wouldn't bother me. Having said that though I do think it likely that somebody will make it available.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] guyver2077:
so let me get this straight. Tmobile note 4 seems to have root available but not VZW?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rushless:
Yeppers
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] deathshead:
Its not THAT easy to permanently destroy a device,I'm willing to bet the numbers are actually pretty low, Probably more returns from dumb consumers unwilling to learn how to use a new os, etc.

In regards to insurance: If you drop it in the toilet bowl or brick it, who cares you PAY for insurance.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] RaptureVeteran:
100% no

I actually feel bad for the people who think it will at such a confident level
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jthrasher47:
We have had a root since before the phone was even released we have multiple roms and multiple kernels and from what T Mobile says it's going to stay that way.. That's why I left att
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fletch33:
we should screenshot these 100% post dating back to the DROID X or the release of Gingerbread. soooo many of my root phones "never had a chance" ooh well

im a glass half full kinda guy
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jasonsc1:
I agree 100% I can remember the CRY Babies saying there was No Way we would Ever have Root for the Droix X when Gingerbread came out. We should SS the ? whiners & block them from XDA once all of us are enjoying Root. It's like this Everytime a New Phone or New System comes out. EVERYTIME & after some time we Get Root.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] deathshead:
"buy unlocked or what beaups and I are working on" -@teamandirc

Now, cut a mattress and pledge some cash like Sally Struthers begs for.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] masri1987:
you know.. it's kind of pointless if root is acheived a year or more after release....

and as the days go on i'm also feeling less confident regarding root for the N4.. hence why i'm just gonna sell this thing and go dev ed-
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tw1n5nak35:
This is a difficult question to answer, because Verizon Note 3 users we're a little spoiled. Most of us, received our JuggerNote3 Thurdsay (Me) October 10, 2013 last year and the very same weekend by the 13th we already had Root exploit thanks to DesignGears Root De La Vega method. Big thanks to him and the Bounty was paid. I know cause I paid my bounty :D

And within a month, Nov 7, 2013 to be exact Hashcode delivered us safestrap 3.65 I also paid my bounty as well for safestrap and also chipped in to help Beanstown sell his original Note 3 to get it to Hashcode. In a few days after release, we we're rewarded with Hyperdrive, the first rom for Verzion JuggerNote 3, Big thanks to you Sbeen94. After that, the rest is history, with many awesome Roms that followed over the next year up to now.

I think we we're spoiled, meaning the users. To have such awesome developer support, that was priceless. I know a lot of them have moved on, but I can't help but think that Note4 may probably not get Root. If the same developer support was on board now, like it was last year with the Note 3, then I would think differently. For now, I guess majority of the Note4 users on Verizon will have to wait, and hopefully get more developer support to exploit root, custom recovery and roms.

:D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dcdgoth:
Adam outler!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where are you!!!!!!!!!!!!

Help us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] xxx42069:
Good luck guys. I got tired of waiting. Loving life with my dev edition. Man this phone is lightning quick with all that bloat removed.

sent from my rooted, debloated Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Developer edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Janker5050:
Do you guys think we should be tweeting, using social media and other online sources to get a root hackers interest to our bounty thread....i know it's not much in the world of exploits but I know it's the season to need some extra cash.....maybe it will grab someone's attention that's needs the Xtra money quick.....just a thought.....this already could have been done for all I know.....

Snet from my Galaxy Note 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ronaldheld:
I believe that root is unlikely to come soon with my perceived level of developer support. Too late to switch to the DE, but thinking of ditching buying the N5 if there is no developer edition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fletch33:
i am also waiting for root as there a few things i like to much to give up at this point. still very happy with my S5/N4 blended rom on my N3.

i will most certainly buy the N4 when it happens.

i am OK with root no longer existing when/if that every happens. it is unlikely i would wait for a N5 before buying a new phone though but for now i will just wait it out until early next year to see what happens.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpfulton248:
Forgive me for asking what must be a dumb question... Why is it considered more difficult than it has been in the past? Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mwebb34:
I don't think the note 4 will ever see root. Only my opinion though.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] scarygood536:
Basically with a locked bootloader developers have to find "flaws" in the system to allow them to run unintended code. So with each new phone and updates manufacturer plug those holes to prevent malicious code from arbitrarily running the on the device. The goal is to be able to write to the root of the system. Which is a high privileged task (administrator). Basically we haven't found a big enough flaw to take advantage of and write to system.

Sent from my bandaid smelling s-pen
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpfulton248:
Isn't finding root the same with an unlocked bootloader... a "flaw" must be found that can be exploited?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
LOL no with unlocked it is cake. flash a su zip and done
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] scarygood536:
oneandroidnut is correct...

No. Because you have the ability to flash a custom recovery which then allows you to flash anything from kernels->rom-> partial system updates. So all you would need to do it put the su binary in a update zip and flash. The phone isn't really going to check for a "samsung" signed update. You can run unsigned code. A flaw is needed to find a way to unlock the phone if the manufacture doesn't provide a way (retail note 4). There is a file called "aboot" in our device which from my understanding determines the status of the bootloader (locked\unlocked). It's the file that separates us retail from DE. That's why you buy a developer edition. Pretty much guarantees the ability to root. :cyclops:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpfulton248:
Gotcha. Make sense. Thanks for the explanation.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] guruleenyc:
Ditto

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Tell me about it! Crappy coverage and root, or best Network coverage and no root /bootloader. It's Bull****.

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I agree!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jasonsc1:
THIS!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Correct. from my understanding (which i havent been into android code since Droid x so i could be wrong lol) but the dev ed isnt going to get samsung updates. basically it comes with unlocked bootloader and rest is up to you. the file aboot is a killer for both devices because on dev ed it is encrypted uniquely for every device. no one device is the same as others which is critical if somebody bricks or turns their dev ed into a retail no way of getting it back without backups of everything. that is why you should dump everything off your dev or be very very very careful. and yes as long as bootloader is unlocked or unlockable root is possible. 4.4.4 cant be rooted without unlocked bootloader and 5.0.0 is going to be the same unless you have nexus (of course unlocked bootloader again). simple su zip and you are golden. i can only buy nexus or dev ed because i gotta have root! LOL
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] scarygood536:
I imagine 5.0.1 will be similar. Haven't paid much attention. For me android 5 is just an over hyped update. I'm running it on my nexus 7. Basically had to do the same, unlock bootloader> flash su zip.

Dev devices are nice but I'm not paying up front $700+ or whatever it is. Basically got the note 4 retail for $100. Plus there is no support. Which developers should have a way to return back to stock if something goes wrong without fearing a locked bootloader. Hell many of us are willing to give up our warranties just to be able to unlock our bootloader. A tool should be released for that. I have a feeling this is going to be my last Samsung device. The competition got better and unlockable bootloaders are more appealing. I bought this device in hopes for lots of developers, but I think they all went nexus 6. The general openness we all praise from android is tarnished. Seems to me they want to be more like apple.

IMO apple would be nothing without saurik and geohot. They are responsible for the jailbreaking community. Apple stole features from that community. It's kind of the while point in development, make products better. Companies like apple and Samsung should embrace this and promote it. In the end it's bettering their product.

I hope we can find a way to decrypt or forge keys to make our own aboot. I doubt that'll ever happen. My guess is someone will find an exploit in android and create a one click root and the note 4 will obtain root this way. I don't expect it before 5 as it's been pointed out a beta for 5 has already been leaked

BTW anyone looking for a good read on aboot file . http://www.newandroidbook.com/Articles/aboot.html?s . It'll make your head hurt.

Sent from my bandaid smelling s-pen
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
I will have to disagree with you on android 5.0. I recently used and still have a nexus 6 and it is the smoothest, most fluid phone I have ever used. Even over note 4. Now with that being said I am selling nexus due to lack of sdcard and removable battery so I don't consider it a better phone overall over my note 4 but software side nexus is so much smoother and runs faster but cant get rid of my note 4 with 160 GB of storage and 3 removable batteries lol. With that being said cant wait to see all flagship phones on 5.0 going to be sweet.

I agree developer editions are not cheap. $699 + tax + shipping you are at an easy $765 or more. I paid $785 for mine and am still happy with it. I will use until note 5 comes out so I get my money out of them. I also have to buy off contract from Verizon to keep my unlimited data so really isn't an issue for me i am looking at very similar pricing for retail vs dev edition. Why is this your last Samsung device? no phone has to offer what this phone does. I would go to nexus 6 if note 4 wasn't available but that would be it. I don't like any other phone enough to use daily.

Good stuff on aboot if you select the S5 in the link it will get you pretty close to the note 4 i would assume. When people ask if their is root yet we should send them there to make them understand how much is involved to just find an exploit lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] windstrings:
Don't know if this is BS or not

https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z12ej3jb4lblxj0b404cclarhwm0wlny23w
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] :
This has been posted in the S5 forum. This will be awesome if this is for real.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] scarygood536:
total of 9 post and coming out of the woodwork after a year of not using the account. I have my doubts. That being said nothing is impossible

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pm'ed for off topic chat.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] windstrings:
I definitely have my doubts!

I would also expect to see some confirmation about any of the other device devices already successful... We'll see I guess....

Does this guy have any history anywhere else / credibility?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mlin:
He's spent less time chatting away on Google plus and xda so he could focus on the project at hand. [emoji6]
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
didnt get your pm
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jbarron0410:
I have a Samsung galaxy note 4 from Verizon I have tried everything.... I have seen videos of persons doing a Verizon Samsung galaxy note 4 . I have tried everything odin chainfire, king root on and on.......my phone is a note 4 SM-N901V 5.0.1 is there any help for me,
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] chevycam94:
I very highly doubt permenant root, or even SysRW, will ever hit the Verizon version. Actually, probably not even the other variants. KK was one thing to crack open (kind of), but LP is just too secure. Can you imagine, as hard as it is right now with LP, that when M comes to the Note 4, how IMPOSSIBLE it will be? Yeah, this is why I'm switching to ProjectFi. Just got my invite 3 days ago.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] AlexanderDAB:
Well things have changed DRAMATICALLY

Unlockable bootloaders, Permanent root, TWRP, custom roms

All for the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fastjohnson:
Bootloader unlocked, supersu 2.72 flashed via twrp stock rom. I'd say it's been done.

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If you still have 5.0.1 downgrade to 4.4.4 and you'll have root
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] copachono:
hi i have a sgh-t999 and i just upload this tomhttp://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2407883 the rom tusn on right but after i chose my language the phone crashes, and i cant even put the phone on recovery, somehow the phone just starts normal,

i believe that my mistake was, not flashing a 4.4 kernel with the rom but im not so sure if that the problem, now i cant flash anything via recovery odin mode works fine, buy im not so sure about flashing a new room and a kernel via odin
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] serio22:
Flash custom recovery again with Odin and try to reflash the ROM.. Also make sure you are using the latest recovery version
[General Topics] doublej:
I'm looking to get more out of my GPS usage....

Is anyone doing anything interesting other than road navigation ? I'd like to load in things like way points for walks and cycle rides - either ones from the net or just ones I plot in advance.

But I'm even worse at GPS than I am a cycling - so wondered if anyone has tips ?

Thanks,

JJ
[General Topics] kachoperro:
You can use ather off-road programs, like OZI CE and COMPE Pocket Land.

They're ideal for biking
[General Topics] bodypilot:
Go flying!!

I took mine up in the plane yesterday while flying around my local airport. Dumped the GPS data and made a 3d track file for Google Earth that is color coded with speed too. The result is pretty cool! Download the free version and import the file attached to see the kind of things you could do with any other activity - not just flying!!
[General Topics] jef1968:
Hi, how do you manage with this file ?

What do we do with it after dl ?
[General Topics] bodypilot:
download the free version of Google Earth http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html (if you have not used this it is *very* cool!)

You can then open the KML file above and you will see the 3d track of the flight. You may not be exactly interested in flying but there are many applications for the same idea.
[General Topics] banannq:
This is really cool!! could you tell me, how to prepare klm file by myself? what kind of software do i need on my Wizard? (of course i have gps receiver) - this is really nice, i'd like to be able to generate this kind of tracks of my trips...

Ok, i took a good look at google earth application and i've found a link to gpv visualizer (http://www.gpsvisualizer.com)

i believe that's what You used ;]. whats the greatest thing about it is the fact it supports gps track file of Automapa - polish road navigation software - very popular and quite good - now i'm able to visualize my own roadtrips... thanks for the idea. :)
[General Topics] bodypilot:
Yes you got it right. The GPSVisualizer web site lets you convert lots of different GPS data formats to get a KML file. My GPS software on the TyTn is called GPS Tuner. It saves a TRK file with position, altitude, time etc in a text file. I opened it in M$ Excel and saved out a CSV file which the web site would read and convert to KML - there may be a much easier way but I got this to work so never looked deeper!!

It's fun to try this kind of thing!!
[General Topics] banannq:
As i mentioned - i was lucky and i can put my Automapa's *.gps file directly to GPSVisualiser. I'm gonna play around with POI files as well, i think it will also work. anyway, its a good news for my fellow polish friends on this forum ;]

But i am still hungry for any other funny/impresive use of gps software, anyone has something even better in mind? sorry bodypilot, but since i don't own the plane myself, the coolest thing i can do is to record a track while ice-skating - which is kinda funny, but still ... ;]
[General Topics] robboy:
have a look at this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=294682

Im trying to find out a way of geotaging the standard camera pictures of the pda
[General Topics] banannq:
i think i have an idea that is a bit round about, but might work. i'll give it a thought tonight. anyway, useles for me, since wizard camera sucks, so i don't plan posting any picture taken with it ;]
[General Topics] C.R:
Hi, though I don't have gps, I have been looking up what I could do with it, to see if it really is worth it...

I found the following link, that really seems to have a great potentiall!

http://www.gpstuner.com/googleearth.htm

regards,
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lukemolina:
Hey guys, is there anyway in 5.0 to change the data cycle to daily? I can only pick start date of the month...
[General Topics] anubius:
Hi everyone,

I was wondering if the phone was never backed up with Google account and all the contacts where lost is there any way to restore.
[Nexus 5 General] mcwarre:
Hi Guys,

I have the official Android 5.0 downloading on my stock (less rooted) nexus 5 - bought sim free. Anyone else?

Mick
[Nexus 5 General] mcwarre:
Downloaded. Wouldn't install. Now not showing as available or on the phone at all. Great!!
[Nexus 5 General] freckybrek:
Android 5.0 system update downloading too :)

Hey Mick,

Im in the UK too and had the system update available pop up and are now downloading the 479.5mb file.

My Nexus was also purchased sim free and is running stock rom with root courtesy of cf autoroot.

Now to decide if to install it straight away or not. I need to read the other posts regarding losing root and how to maintain phone and app data.
[Nexus 5 General] tosin01:
Received it lastnight and updated immediately. Very happy with it apart from the lockscreen music widget removed by Google.

My wife's N5 OTA just arrived this evening and has completed its update.:)
[Nexus 5 General] MrKaon:
I've Sideloaded mine on day one.[emoji12]
[Nexus 5 General] al89nut:
Downloaded and re-rooted with Wugfresh. No problem at all.
[Nexus 5 General] Nathanation:
Old nexus 7 received the OTA today, but nothing yet on my nexus 5 ? purchased through three...
[Nexus 5 General] dk206:
Nothing. Bought via google UK store....
[Nexus 5 General] El Daddy:
We already have a thread about receiving the OTA: http://xdaforums.com/google-nexus-5/general/recieved-ota-t2939041

As OTA rollouts aren't location specific, I don't see the need for another thread.

Closed.
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] falcon26:
I have seen different reviews that mention different sizes for the display. I am on T-Mobile and was wondering what exact size is the display, is it 5.2 inches or 5.7 inches?
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] id3alistic:
What? It's 5.2. There is no 5.7 display.
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] falcon26:
I have a friend that was just at the T-Mobile store who said they had a 5.7 inch Sony Z3. That is why I am confused...
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abhinav.tella:
No, he probably just didn't know. Its 5.2", if you are still uncertain go to the Sony website.

http://eshop.sonymobile.com/us/buy/us-xperia-z3/

Click on the specs tab.
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poldie:
Galaxy Note 3 is 5.7 inches. And they do all look the same these days!
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abhinav.tella:
Yea he may have mistaken the N(ote) for a Z.:)
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danw_oz:
Maybe his eyesight is failing and he thought the 2 was a 7 :p
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjmjpfaff:
I have read a lot already on this site about my issue just wanted to clear up a few unanswered questions.

I am looking to switch from Verizon to t-mobile because of prices and terrible reception where I'm living in Riverside Ca. So I know that I can simply put in a t-mobile sim and change to the correct gsm settings and get cell reception (correct me if I'm wrong) but what about getting LTE from t-mobile? I have looked to see if the new 700 mhz band covers here and Ventura County Ca. (where I am when I'm not in Riverside) and it does so I should get LTE without having to put in a custom Rom, correct?

I'm a novice when coming to roms (plus a failed attempt) so i would like to avoid them as much as I can. Will do it if I have to though... All about saving $$$$

Thanks for the replies.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wulsic:
[MENTION=5727343]mjmjpfaff[/MENTION]

I know what your saying about saving $$$ phones these days are almost the half of a old car/price of a motorcycle.

If your Verizon phone is not simlocked and also has support for the LTE bands which T-Mobile is using then it's possible to get LTE working without the need to buy another phone. If it's mentioned on internet on multiple sites that the G2 supports that LTE band then you can get it without a custom rom.

In my eyes it's possible to have working LTE from T-Mobile on your verizon phone, but to be 100% sure I would contact Verizon support about your question.

I also had many fail attempts with custom roms first but after you get how it works, you can flash anything as smooth as butter:good:

you could also wait for a VS980 G2 user who had the same issue as you but I think that it would take you more time awaiting for a reaction from somebody since not many people are browsing the Q&A section.