yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M9) General] thekalby:
Honestly, I wouldn't mind a 1080p phone, but HTC should put a better, brighter panel in. Also my concern is that a 1080p 5.2 inch phone would start to get a too pixelated for my taste. I had the M7 which had 470ppi, and I thought that was great. M8 with 440ppi is still very good, but not as flawless as 480ppi. A 5.2 inch screen would give it 423 ppi, which I think is starting to get to the point where its a noticeable downgrade from the 470ppi M7. I mean with the M7 no matter how hard you looked, you could not see a single pixel.
[One (M9) General] gelo01:
How come? How are you viewing your phone exactly, like 1 inch from your eyes? I actually put my M8 near my eyes and i can't even see any pixelated stuff like you're saying. 423 ppi if your correct, would still be enough for the naked eye, but for you, who uses the phone like 1 inch from your eyes, should really not buy the next flagship if you have problems with 1080p on a 5.2" phone. Even the One X that had a 312ppi still have a great viewing angles despite of it being 720p only. You just want to ride the 2k bandwagon. Go with the G4/S6 if you really want such useless 2k display. Again, HTC is not for you. HTC is not dumb to put 2k display on a 5" phone.
[One (M9) General] LNJ:
The SD810 is supposed to be delayed since there are some issues. So hopefully they don't just settle for the 805 instead.
[One (M9) General] gelo01:
Well maybe that is why there's the allegedly reported Hima Ultra? I've read somewhere that HTC is planning to make a successor to the One Max but a little bit smaller. Maybe the Hima Ultra would sport the 2k display? But these are mere speculations. We still don't know what HTC has in store for us until march..

But 2k display on a 5" phone, together with the issues of the octacore SD 810, and with a little 2840mAH battery? If that really happens, HTC could be digging their own grave.
[One (M9) General] AmiablySoulless:
64 bit

I'm assuming you meant 64 bit processor, so with that being said I'd disagree. The 64 bit pushes the envelope on the quality of software we can get on phones. The world needs to move to 64 bit, 32 bit should of died years ago.
[One (M9) General] Tachi91:
64bit offers more then allowing more ram to be used. It's the only feature most people know about. Without taking more ram into account they offer better performance overall and better security. It's an overall improvement over 32bit and sure it seems like overkill on a smartphone but forget about the more ram feature.
[One (M9) General] tkoreaper:
Who really cares? Just because they create a new system for upgrades doesn't mean it's what people do. The idea of being able to upgrade after a single year rather than 2 years is something that people would LIKE... NOT necessarily WANT. It's a business move to encourage more subscribers, nothing more... nothing less. And to be honest T-Mobile did it first and then the others followed... It most likely never would have happened if it wasn't for T-Mobile.
[One (M9) General] diabo_bom:
More 3 months . :)

Enviado do meu HTC One através de Tapatalk
[One (M9) General] fix-this!:
ill buy the m9 hima instantly if the rumored specs are true. i wont touch a 2k display. too much overheating and lag.
[One (M9) General] BWA80:
Some new leaks, maybe 5.2 screen?

http://beta.techradar.com/news/phon...c-hima-devices-and-a-brand-new-tablet-1275915
[One (M9) General] branc116:
Usles

You do not need 4k screen, you will not see the diference, you will only have a slowerd device.. ;)

My english is bad :P
[One (M9) General] Badelhas:
I agree. We don't really need QHD, full HD is fine for such a small screen. And the battery life is better. That dosent mean they can't improve the brightness, etc.
[One (M9) General] riaan0010:
HTC M9 specs

Hi Guys.

New specs by upleaks on twiiter for HTC Hima (M9)

Link : http://upleaks.info/2014/12/22/htc-hima/

HTC Hima

Demension: 144.3 x 69.4 x 9.56 mm

Snapdragon 810 2.0GHz Quad-core + 1.5GHz Quad-core

3GB RAM

5″ FHD Display

Supports VoLTE(Voice Over LTE), Carrier Aggrication(Malaysian/Indian model doesn’t support this), LTE Category 6

20.7MP Main Camera

13MP or 4MP UltraPixel Front Camera

2840mAh Battery

Android 5.0

Sense 7.0

Color: Gray, Silver, Gold, Gunmetal Gold

Launch: March 2015

Official Accessory: Active Headset, DotView, DecoStand Case, Clear Case, Active Case, Premium Screen Protector
[One (M9) General] EternalAndroid:
I need it.
[One (M9) General] -juanito-:
Nice but i hope to see 5.2 2k screen, 8.xx mm thick and 3000 mH battery
[One (M9) General] TwistyValhalla:
Interesting.. I thought they'd definitely go for a bigger screen with their next flagship.. given the trend. Personally I'm happy with 5".
[One (M9) General] badboy47:
Do want!
[One (M9) General] P_M_G:
Making me seriously consider sticking with my m7 for a while longer.
[One (M9) General] Badelhas:
Why, because of not having QHD? It's a gimmick, the human eye cannot distinguish such small pixels. Just imagine such CPU power and the battery life for not having QHD.
[One (M9) General] P_M_G:
LOL - no because I was going to blow an upgrade and get an M8 this week....I'm thinking now of waiting and I would prefer FHD vs QHD actually.
[One (M9) General] Callliope:
Gunmetal gold ?! AWESOMEE
[One (M9) General] riaan0010:
Very Excited
[One (M9) General] menendez1293:
Would like to see a larger screen. Might go with Nexus 6 my next go around.
[One (M9) General] Ronaldo_9:
5" 1080p / QHD

805/810 CPU

2GB or 3GB Ram

8 ultra pixel or 16/21 mp camera

32Gb with SD card support

Dual speaker with no HTC logo bezel.

something like this

[IMG="m9"]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-p_Al_5wAPEU/VB7-k5zGizI/AAAAAAAABXU/9lz6uPbBaZA/s1600/htc%2Bone%2Bm9%2B(10).jpg[/IMG]

or

[IMG="m9"]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/By7Aly-CEAAcCsC.png[/IMG]

would be great!!!
[One (M9) General] Badelhas:
Cannot see any image
[One (M9) General] Ronaldo_9:
Loads fine for me, just used another browser to load the thread and images were there.
[One (M9) General] BerndM14:
Yeah, just what we need, bigger screens.

Soon enough we can all sit like this:
[One (M9) General] Stephen:
Thread cleaned, can we get back on topic now please?
[One (M9) General] Badelhas:
What leaked image are you referring to?
[One (M9) General] tessut:
This one
[One (M9) General] anddiiss:
We finally have a confirmation on the specs.
[One (M9) General] Badelhas:
Source?
[One (M9) General] anddiiss:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_hima_specs_show_up_on_antutu-news-10606.php
[One (M9) General] Badelhas:
I am glad to see they didn't go with the QHD stupidity
[One (M9) General] jshamlet:
If this is true, then it's a great relief in every area except the camera. The display is perfect, as are the processor, RAM, frequencies.

I was really hoping they would switch up to an 8mpixel Ultrapixel-style sensor. My phone beats the snot out of my wife's phone in low light, and I suspect that 20mpixel sensor is going to not only have lousy low-light performance, but be hobbled back to practically 8mpixel anyway due to its optics. Hopefully that will be proven wrong.
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
+1
[One (M9) General] neutronjeff:
Yes! Sooo glad.
[One (M9) General] Croak:
While this may well be the specs for the M9, it could also be the specs for the VZW specific version, and we all know how they like to **** with OEM specs to suit themselves.
[One (M9) General] Yepix:
To be honest, I should have waited for the Hima to come out.

I just got my phone on Christmas, and I don't want my phone to be outdated already.
[One (M9) General] tclocki:
That's fine. I've owned my m8 since June and right now, I'm all too excited for the m9 as well. However, its just mainly the camera that I'm looking forward to. The m8 is just so damn good that its gonna be hard for me to switch to any other phone right now. If you're ok with the camera on the m8 (a lot of people are btw), then even if the m9 comes out, you'll be just fine :)
[One (M9) General] lupin87:
+1

No need for f***ing QHD
[One (M9) General] cardozclive:
I wish this concept HTC one M9 or so called Hima see's the light of the day. It looks slick and premium
[One (M9) General] Vandam500:
It's possible it got leaked and if so, it looks beautiful: http://www.androidguys.com/2015/01/02/htc-one-m9-hima/
[One (M9) General] TwistyValhalla:
Not a leak - it's a concept video. If you look at the guy who uploaded it, he has done other concept videos before.
[One (M9) General] Mollace:
typeriz wrote here earlier ( http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=57793939&postcount=111) : "The screen will be the same size as the M8. Single camera on back, huge sensor on back, the module looked like a size of a quarter. Front camera looks like a 8mp camera, the screen has same bezel on bottom, but less bezel on left and right side.power button is placed on the right side under the volume button. It basically looks just like a m8."

leaks from [MENTION=1336289]upl[/MENTION]eaks ( http://upleaks.info/2014/12/22/htc-hima/ ) confirm the specs written above

But Jerico9 posted another specs in GSMArena M9-topic (2014-12-24 00:07 ):

"The picture on here is not the M9. Some of these stats are way off.

The design is a lot more curvy also the boom speakers are integrated on to the top and bottom of the screen. The screen is 5.2". 18mega pixel duel camera with a 20.7mega pixel sensor. 4up front facing. Hardware specs seem correct. The M9 is smaller than the M8 with a bigger screen. Its still in testing they have been known to change their mind on design late on but these are as close to the final model that i can let out. There's a few good surprises. Over the next 6 weeks you'll get to know everything about the M9. As for sense 7 that holds the key but won't find any leaks as the testing devices are using 4.4.4 s6. If you can check my history out, I also listed the M8 specs earlier this year. I've got nothing to prove anyway, the proof will unfold in the next 6 weeks. "

This sounds interesting, but hard to imagine a 5,2" display in a smaller chassis than that of M8 (70,6mm), because even the LG G2 with superslim bezels is 70,9mm wide, not the mention the M9-width of 69,4mm leaked by [MENTION=1336289]upl[/MENTION]eaks.
[One (M9) General] Seraz007:
Hope they ditch the ultrapixel camera...
[One (M9) General] Badelhas:
I won't they wouldn't but just find a way to fit the best of two worlds. 8 ultrapixel camera with optical zoom would be great. I love taking pictures in low light with my HTC one m8.

And let's be realistic... Who needs 20 megapixels images? So you can zoom 5 times? When do we actually do that?!
[One (M9) General] Mollace:
20 megapixels are unnecessary, but 8 ultrapixels would be the minimal limit and about 12 megapixels are more ideal if you want to make a print photobook in big format. And I agree, to make good low lights picture I'll miss the ultrapixel-technology.

One year ago HTC could have introduced the optical zoom in M8 - this technology with help of dual cameras was althogh known that time http://www.phonearena.com/news/Smartphone-camera-with-optical-zoom-This-technology-can-help_id53209

Nowadays there is an other way to use optical zoom in mobile phones: http://spectrum.ieee.org/view-from-...ces/fitting-an-optical-zoom-into-mobile-phone
[One (M9) General] typeriz:
I played with the verizon FTU unit, that's all I can say. Keep in mind I said it looks just like the m8, just cleaner. The front housing could've just been using the m8 housing. Unfortunately the OS crashed didn't get to play with sense 7, I don't want to jepordize my source of how it crashed.
[One (M9) General] danger12345:
Next six weeks is in February, but one thing I know for sure it better just don't be a camera upgrade and sense seven.I hardly use my camera and m8 will get sense seven so they better bring something more enticing for me because I will wait until m10:D
[One (M9) General] typeriz:
The first thing I said was, it's just like the m8..!!! But felt a little different in hand...q will I upgrade?? Maybe depends on how the snapdragon 810 holds up.
[One (M9) General] epsix:
Why not 5.5" display? :(
[One (M9) General] danger12345:
Well I am already anxious because it better be better
[One (M9) General] Sisyphus306:
I have to admit I was hoping for at least a 5.2".
[One (M9) General] mjs2011:
No this phone's size is perfect. I just came from a phablet.
[One (M9) General] DeSaint2:
5" with BoomSound and refined bezels is a sweet spot. If anything they would release a phablet version for anyone wanting bigger. I use my device one handed a lot and don't have small hands. Releasing anything bigger than 5" as a flagship is complete and udder ridiculousness. I would be highly disappointed. I would also be highly disappointed if they wasted all that power from the chipset trying to push an overrated 2k screen. Save the 2k for screen it would actually make a difference in like a tablet.

Oh and if anyone would like to join an ongoing discussion of all things HTC and not just leaked specs of one device check out my signature.
[One (M9) General] Badelhas:
Totally agree
[One (M9) General] sl0519:
Just a question

The unit you were playing

Was it one of the few prototypes

Coz based on what you described it may be one of the early prototype

May I also ask, were the edges more rounded like M8 or more angular like M7?
[One (M9) General] gsusx:
For me if they can keep it 5" reduce the bezel size it would be pretty close to perfect. I still think the M8 is a little too big, I personally think the Moto x (2013) is the best phone i've owned in terms of comfort, and regularly find myself swapping back :(

For me, wishlist...

Reduce the bezel size, make the phone smaller but keep the screen size, I want to use it one handed without having to adjust all the time.

Increase the battery life, it's good, but it could still be better.

Improve the camera a bit, not massively but it does need improving.

Copy the hell out of motorola and include something like active display and always listening mode, I miss these soooo much .....

Other than that, personally, im not that bothered. The M8 is fine speed wise, screen is good enough, lets not just update for the sake of it, you have a brilliant phone, improve on the cons of the phone and wallop, you have a winner.....
[One (M9) General] Mollace:
It's only a render with one certain inaccuracy (no bezels on both side), but according to the source Gizmochina the pictures come from the designer of the handset. But sure, it's more cleaner than the M8 , though the 3 LED flashes in this separated form (as fisheyes) ruin the beautiful rear design in my eyes, the rear LED flashes of the M8 in one piece are much more stylish.

Full article and more pictures: http://www.loadthegame.com/2015/01/05/htc-one-m9-hima-renders-show-off-the-ces-2015-star/
[One (M9) General] typeriz:
Definitely more rounded like the m8, no sharp edges.... It could've been a early prototype, I don't know?? Like I said I won't go in to direct detail, I don't know how HTC is handling FTU units if they sent everyone the same, or different ones. Like I said earlier, it could've been a m8 housing in front to throw off the design, but the back was def. A finished product. With cleaner lines.

Picture the camera lens in the back the size of a quarter, raised glass you can feel it swiping it. Which kinda worries me, if it falls on floor. Camera lens can shatter.

Now the question is,will I be upgrading?? Depends... Is camera that important to me? The m8 is one of the best devices, will developers jump on the m9 or stay with m8? The m7 crowd should make the jump.
[One (M9) General] danger12345:
I just knew that would happen man I can't upgrade until next year:confused:
[One (M9) General] typeriz:
It has dual flash on left side of camera, the render isn't real...
[One (M9) General] danger12345:
Good boy more info:D
[One (M9) General] BadAzDB:
I just wish the design won't be the same as the M8. I mean it's good looking and all that, but honestly I hate the rounded back not to mention how bulky the device and heavy is. Didn't really notice it until I held an iPhone 6 in my hand (to sell). And it's Android for life but the design, thinness, and weight of the iPhone 6 is definitely something Apple did right. They basically took the design of the m8 and improved upon it lol. I hope htc takes notes.
[One (M9) General] I Can Be Your Hero:
Could be the Hima internals housing it in the M8 body. The Hima is supposed to be a little thicker than the M8, so that's why the camera module protruded from the body a little. With the Hima being a fraction thicker, the camera unit should sit flush.

There have been whispers of initial test units looking like the One M8 with 5" screen, giant camera module and Snapdragon 810 processor. They've supposedly built and sent out these units to carriers to test the hardware/software/reception without giving away the final product design. Sounds like what you've described. Then there are newer test models going around more recently (mid/late December) with the real Hima body/casing, a 5.2" screen, smaller looking camera module (or maybe the back casing covers most of it up?) etc. Not too sure what/who to believe at this point. Everything is murky.
[One (M9) General] gelo01:
I totally agree with you mate. 5" should be the max for the M9/Hima because they are also planning for the Ultra variant. But i just want to point out that the "udder" on your comment should be "utter". ;)

Because:
[One (M9) General] erapmicks:
Could it be this

This was from back when they said they were coming out with the M8 Prime.

From the famous Leaker "EV LEAKS"
[One (M9) General] gelo01:
I hope it isn't.
[One (M9) General] Mollace:
For my part 5,2" is an acceptable limit, if the chassis has only minimal bezels (LG G2), if HTC can manage it, ok. The big problem of the M8 is the 5" screen in a 5,2/3" chassis.

To the HTC M8 Prime variant: this solution is bad, the bulky camera ring is ridiculous, the thicker but curved rear part of the HTC One M7 and 8 is very stylish compared to the very strange rear part of the iPhone 6.
[One (M9) General] erapmicks:
Its beautiful IMO
[One (M9) General] Badelhas:
Seems like a iPhone 6 copy
[One (M9) General] gelo01:
Well it depends on how you define the word "beautiful". It's ****in' ridiculous IMO. Looked like a Chinese rip-off to me.
[One (M9) General] typeriz:
No because the m9 doesn't have dual cameras on the back.
[One (M9) General] md1008:
I just hope HTC releases a phablet, after ditching my m8 for the Nexus 6 I must say I really like the 6 inches. Unlike my old note there instances using one handed is cumbersome but playing GTA : San Andreas plays like a dream and YouTube videos.

I think I am going to buy a slimmer case though hopefully that helped
[One (M9) General] sl0519:
someone told me that too

but he pointed out that hima ultra will be duo camera setup just like the current m8

He even said that hima ultra is 5.2" unlike the rumored 5.5"

Am I right??
[One (M9) General] Badelhas:
How do you guys know all this?!
[One (M9) General] Rick1vr6:
Lets just hope all the rumors about the S810 overheating aren't true or as bad as what I've read. If its true then that would mean a major redesign of the chip, which would cause serious issues at HTC, Sony, LG and Samsung in regards to releasing a device anytime soon.
[One (M9) General] Mollace:
Tomshardware.com: "Update [23:15 1/7/2015] We had an opportunity to speak with Tim Leland, Qualcomm VP of product management, about these rumors regarding Snapdragon 810's performance. According to him, while there are always engineering challenges to overcome when bringing new technology to market, there aren't any significant technical issues that will cause a delay. With the G Flex 2 slated to ship at the end of January, we'll find out very soon if there is indeed any basis to these rumors." in: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/snapdragon-810-delays-competitors-opportunity,28371.html
[One (M9) General] Mollace:
Hima won't have a fingerprint sensor according to [MENTION=1336289]upl[/MENTION]eaks: https://twitter.com/upleaks/status/553947332551516160

I also hope the front side of the Hima will have metallic speakergrills, because the allglass frontcover (like the iPhone 6) is not stylish and seems cheap.
[One (M9) General] fix-this!:
hima is just a internal code name. it will be a continuation of the one line.

its already confirmed it will have the s10 processor.

im glad htc will probably not buy into the hype of 4k screens. 1080p is fine by me.

---------- Post added at 10:12 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:11 AM ----------

we dont know what it will have yet. we will find out in march or so.

---------- Post added at 10:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:12 AM ----------

the m8 has the best design on a phone, period. if htc is smart they will continue that.
[One (M9) General] danger12345:
Can you guys give it a break
[One (M9) General] fix-this!:
give what a break? discussing a phone that will be released within the next 2-3 months?
[One (M9) General] BerndM14:
Yeah doesn't make sense, stop talking about a soon-to-be-released phone in a thread dedicated to said phone :eek:

Either he doesn't know what the topic is or, all this talk about the new specs is giving him a hard-on and he can't take it anymore. :silly:
[One (M9) General] gelo01:
The only thing that really concerns me is the front camera. If it was the same 13 MP camera module like inside the Desire Eye, then that's an automatic fail. Even the 5 MP of the M8 captures better photos. If it was the 8 MP camera, i think it's just too overkill for "selfie" photos. The 4 UP is just about the perfect one for Hima. Plus, the ability to tap-to-focus, zoom, macro, and HDR. Imagine that you could tap your face so that the background of your "selfie" gets a blurred effect because of macro settings. Oh well, everybody can dream right? :P
[One (M9) General] tusing:
What concerns me is that HTC will patch all remaining S-OFF exploits and we will never be able to use custom ROMs again.

Which would mean no custom ROMs on the M9. Bye-bye, Android ROM community?
[One (M9) General] IINexusII:
Custom ROMS and S-OFF are two different things altogether.

the Nexus devices are all S-ON and have never been S-OFF'd

Read: https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/P1i8qzLfkTm
[One (M9) General] tusing:
Huh, could you elaborate? I've always found this rather confusing. Why do certain ROMs require S-OFF then?

Edit, saw link, thanks
[One (M9) General] IINexusII:
read the link i posted in my original post, and also this: http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/about_unlock_process
[One (M9) General] jotha:
No rom really needs s-off. It is just much more convenient (or even the only way in some cases) for flashing certain areas of the phone memory.
[One (M9) General] ThePhoneGeek:
I mean no disrespect but the success or failure of this device will not be determined by the selfie camera. If that is what is the make or break in someone's buying decision then odds are they should stick with their iPhone...
[One (M9) General] th3:
I was an original Desire enthusiast and alpha stage tester. After it, only the M8 truly replaced its seat with me, going through one phone after another, in wait.

With that in mind, 2 major physical shortcomings I've hated on the M8 and I've been waiting to have changed. The rest is perfect for me, for another 2 years at least.

1. Multi-colour LED notifications.

2. Lower phone height but wider, chopping 30mm in length (mostly bezel), widening the phone by 10mm whilst halving the current bezels on the sides.

So like, now its 5.76" (146) x 2.78" (70.6)

But then it'll be 5.40" (137) x 3.00" (76.2)

i.e. height of iP6, width of G3

Cut the bezels to G3 standards and you have;

1.18"+0.47" added to the current screen size (which is 4.5" x 2.5")

So, then you'll have: 5.68" x 3.2" screen possible.

Which fits a <6.5" screen easily. I'm happy at the current size, but even 5.5" would be a major improvement.

In total, more real estate but smaller size.

Edit: Errrrr I've just measured my screen without bezel guys, it's exactly 5.10" (135mm).

Not 5.0" at all.

Lol and the phone is 151mm in height not 146mm quoted everywhere.

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