yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 5 General] pogi1100:
It's really tough to choose between the two right now (at least for me). On one hand, I want tons of customization options and Xposed (what would I do without this). On the other hand, I want ART.Not to mention L, at least in my experience, is faster than KK by a noticeable amount. I've tried using L as my daily driver but, again at least in my experience, battery life is way worse than what I got in KK (probably due to Xposed's Amplify and Greenify). I think I'll stick with KitKat for now... the thing I miss the most from 5.0 is RAW capture with L Camera, but that's about it.
[Nexus 5 General] pfmiller:
Kit Kat has ART. Problem solved. You're welcome.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Uh, not quite- Xposed doesn't work with ART at all, even on KK.
[Nexus 5 General] Bonusbartus:
do you have a link? The search function can't seem to find it... probably doesn't like the short name ;)

never mind... found it in the general section... why is it there?

http://xdaforums.com/google-nexus-5/general/rom-android-5-0-aosp-gapps-t2932747
[Nexus 5 General] sewer56lol:
Yeah there actually were, at least on the Xperia Play I owned before, people won't have liked using ICS because it was heavily resource intensive (myself included), and kept with GB for a smoother system performance and higher game framerates.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Forum Fiend v1.2.12.
[Nexus 5 General] linzoid:
OK . . I'll stick my two cents worth in. I, too loved KK 4.4.4 with Xposed & Gravity Box. Too curious about Lollipop not to flash it and try it out, though. I've had NO bugs, NO battery drain issues, quite like the white theme. Lollipop is performing nicely for me. I use Textra, so I don't know about the 'pink' messaging problem. If I was having some of the issues that I've been reading about in these forums, I'd be straight back to KK. I'm sure that there will be some nice tweaks for 5.0 in coming days from the devs, I am patient.

To each his own. Cheers, all.
[Nexus 5 General] Rusty!:
That wasn't anyones choice, Sony didn't release ICS for the Play due to the lack of resources.
[Nexus 5 General] pfmiller:
This is certainly the first Android release I'm hesitant to install on my phone. I don't dislike change, as long as it's a change for the better.
[Nexus 5 General] k0lega:
I personally find the material design alone worthy of upgrading from kk.

The only time i felt like staying on the prior OS was when 4.3 dropped. They had everything just right on 4.2.2. They squashed the bugs. The battery life was wonderful. 4.3 was bollocks :p
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Because the OP of that thread isn't the developer and it's not a development thread.
[Nexus 5 General] Danchibald:
I'm staying on KK, until xposed will work on L...
[Nexus 5 General] Wakamatsu:
A lot of people using the Samsung Galaxy 2 line downgraded from ICS to GB due to stability issues and stayed there for the life of that phone.
[Nexus 5 General] doctor_droid:
I was one among them :) i have never ever seen a phone so smooth like s2 on gb....
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Yeah, GB was FAR better than ICS on the GS2. I never even updated, left it on GB.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Have never or had never? Big difference. It was certainly smooth at the time but it can't hold a candle to today's devices as far as smoothness is concerned.
[Nexus 5 General] Blown 89:
I made the mistake up installing the OTA and now I hate it. What's the best way to go back to kitkat?
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Either with the factory image or a ROM.
[Nexus 5 General] Blown 89:
I assume that means I will lose everything unlike an OTA?
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
That is correct. You can use titanium to backup/restore all your stuff though.
[Nexus 5 General] Bonusbartus:
Couldn't resist and upgraded with that n5x rom and the dark theme.

Seems to be working perfectly!

It even has an option to disable fullscreen keyboard in landscape mode:D

Is that standard or is it one of those little tweaks in the rom?
[Nexus 5 General] DigitalUnderground:
911 doesn't work... Just a heads up
[Nexus 5 General] Bonusbartus:
It indeed doesn't in the normal dialler.

If you need to make an emergancy call, you can however do so from te lockscreen.

Swipe the phone on the bottom left to the bottom right and you get an option to dial an emergency number:D
[Nexus 5 General] firenet:
Staying on KitKat till lollipop gets more stable on my phone.

Tried various builds of lollipop, just not running great on my phone, especially bad battery life
[Nexus 5 General] sewer56lol:
That wasn't anyones choice, Sony didn't release ICS for the Play due to the lack of resources.[/quote]

Yes - the lack of hardware. ICS was very resource intensive.

ICS on the play however not only had a semi "official" stable ROM but also had stable CM 9 interestingly.

Albeit the Neo L, a device identical to the play (minus the gamepad) got ICS and that ICS works perfectly on the play.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Forum Fiend v1.2.12.
[Nexus 5 General] flashallthetime:
Staying on kitkat until fully functional custom Roms with dark ui and theme choser are fully merged, hate that blinding white ui of lollipop. If I wanted everything white I would have purchased a Icrap.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
I'm running N5X Lollipop via multiROM with a dark theme, and it looks seriously awesome.
[Nexus 5 General] flashallthetime:
Gmail, playstore and other apps blacked out as well?
[Nexus 5 General] EternalAndroid:
Just read every reply in this thread & I do agree with the OP.
[Nexus 5 General] krittikron:
waiting for puzzle and dragon update
[Nexus 5 General] -Turbo-:
U waiting for android m 'milkshake'. L's just a teaser and the new google launcher app drawer where its all white is all horrible! Hideous! Tried deleting google launcher and push nova prime through system app. It worked but all my app broke after each reboot, they would be reset to factory :@. Waiting for cm12 rhat way ill be able to customize how i plz :)
[Nexus 5 General] thor1k:
A++++ would read again!!!!!!

---------- Post added at 07:22 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:20 AM ----------

they're pretty disconnected from what users liked that differentiated them from iPhone
[Nexus 5 General] opssemnik:
since i dont really like the new grayish look of android L,and there are still some notorious bugs for me (such as mute only works on tablets) along with the sources being updated with new tags like its a nightly rom i will stay with KK, and to be honest, i only miss the RenderThread (the culprit for making all animations smooth, even if the apps hangs for a bit).

also i bet there is gonna be 5.0.1 by january, so i will wait. by now i will use it on my n7 since it isnt my main device (but really wanting to go back to 4.4 or 4.3, the new ui on the n7 is so badly made, too much wasted space)
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Calendar is, Gmail and Play Store aren't.
[Nexus 5 General] Rolo42:
It isn't a "permission" if I can't say "no"

I am definitely not one of those guys; however, my must-haves (Xprivacy and Xposed Framework) don't work on ART/Lollipop and I simply cannot let my phone number and e-mail be up for grabs to thieves and marketers (legal thieves).

Permissions have gotten so out of hand (pretty much all-or-nothing anymore) since the user can't control them (why are they even called, "permissions"?) except by avoiding apps all together--at which point why have a smartphone? (heh...like the evolution of weaponry going from nuclear missiles to clubs)

Lolli is very nice but between uncontrollable permissions (I don't care how "simplified" they are and at this point it's almost like "simplifying" the IRS tax code: not a real accomplishment) and two Google FCs on a clean wipe/install has me restoring my KK nandroid backup.

heh..."Android is upgrading..." (first boot after restore)
[Nexus 5 General] galaxys:
Just waiting on Purity lollipop rom magic! ;)
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Yeah, one of the nice things about KitKat and Xposed is App Ops, which lets you control permissions. I use it, and have my phone on total lockdown. No app has any permissions besides what it actually needs to operate.

I haven't checked out Xprivacy before, but I'm going to now so thanks for the heads up on that.
[Nexus 5 General] Rolo42:
Oh it's the bees knees. It sends false data (that you can randomise or configure yourself) rather than interfere with the permissions themselves, so it's as compatible as you can get. It also has finer (finest, actually) granularity. It has a bit of a learning curve but nothing you can't master in a few hours (worst case). Tip: find the batch options in the UI before setting every app manually--not that I know from experience or anything! :D

I need to find a Google-Play-Games-whatever-datamine-thing counterpart (can't play a simple single-player puzzle game without forfeiting access to social sites/information, so I don't play).
[Nexus 5 General] thesebastian:
Every 5.0 release since the first DP has improved the performance.

However....4.4.4 with ART is still leading.

I still prefer 5.0 than 4.4.4 but let's say that Lollipop needs a lot of polish!

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] Rusty!:
Not for me; 5.0 is noticeably smoother.
[Nexus 5 General] thesebastian:
I agree. its smoother here too. (Except in some things like some Google Play Newstand animations.)

But slower....for many things.

For instance : Just change from an app to another one with the oldest recent app function (4.4.4 art) and then do the same thing with lollipop. You can do it faster on KitKat.

Also...try spamming the recent apps button on KitKat....it is almost realtime.

Of course..there are examples and examples..

Smoother? yes. Faster?...depends.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] Mrwirez:
Hello Lolli

Lollipop. No If's, And's, or Butt's.

It is a much better experience.
[Nexus 5 General] Rusty!:
I think I get what you're saying... It's pretty much flawless, but the nicer animation means that it takes a split second longer than it used to?
[Nexus 5 General] thesebastian:
Yes.

There are things that are smoother and faster. ( I feel the scrolling better. )

But things that are smoother but slower (the recent apps button etc).

However I still prefer 5.0 and the new look.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] gtg465x:
Listen to the latest Iterate podcast. A couple Google designers who worked on Lollipop are on it discussing some design decisions like this. It sounds like they plan to speed up the animations some in future versions (5.1, 5.2), but they left them a little slow for now so users can get used to the new design paradigm, and understand how things work, and where things move from and to. Otherwise, just set animation speed to .5 in dev settings if you really want them faster now.
[Nexus 5 General] Dunge2:
I won't switch back to KitKat for it, but I would love to get the xposed back. I'm currently missing some features that I used a lot from gravitybox, especially the change tracks using volume buttons while phone lcd is off.
[Nexus 5 General] SonicAngel:
So I got a couple of friends who upgraded, ALL of them save for one (8 friends in total) say "DONT UPGRADE!!! LOLLIPOP IS CRAP!!!". After messing with one of their devices here are my impressions:

The good:

Everything feels smoother. It looks faster too although when comparing against my device it really isn't faster, it's slower on most accounts but it still gives the feeling of being faster and smoother which is quite impressive the first couple of minutes.

The bad:

The mess with Pictures and no Gallery is absolutely terrible. Why do I now need a million clicks to see only my Camera pictures when it used to be 1? How is this advancing?

The silent mode being messed with is beyond idiotic in my eyes (why the hell would you mess with something as basic and trivial as silent mode?!?!).

Menus and everything else going white is also ridiculous considering it kills more battery, it's crap to look at at night AND they made each button take half the screen... Why exactly? Did we all suddenly go blind or does Google believe were all gonna be blind thanks to their useless IOS copycatting menus?

Lock screen is also a big issue. My first smartphone was an iPhone, as a result my automatic gesture to open the lock screen is swipe from left to right, now it opens up the dialer weather I want it to or not. I mean come on... This is now child's play.

The device keeps turning off when Waze (GPS App) is on according to 3 friends

Then on top of all that there's no Xposed for the little things I like so much like my shutdown menu, closing all recent apps, kill apps with long press, modify lock screen etc etc etc etc etc etc.

So to sum up: No, I'm not upgrading. I'll consider it again after maybe some updates arrive or if Xposed is ever supported again (where's that standing BTW?). Till then I'll keep my KitKat.
[Nexus 5 General] :
I can understand the frustration but please at least try to stick to facts. The N5 has an LCD screen, not AMOLED and this means that colors have 0% impact on battery. AMOLED displays turn off black pixels which saves battery with dark themes but the entire LCD display stays on no matter what color pixels are presented.

The Lollipop white theme has no impact on battery on the Nexus 5 whatsoever. Other things do and there are some issues for many people.
[Nexus 5 General] SonicAngel:
Didn't know that, thanks for correcting me :)
[Nexus 5 General] swallowingled:
I'll be staying on 4.4.4 for now. I updated my N10 first and had to spend a couple of days trying to get some root apps working properly and I have the occasion sound issue that seems to be a bug. But I have to say aside from the bugs it is a big improvement for the N10 performance wise. I also updated my N4 but it immediately had wifi issues(no 5 ghz) and I occasionally get a black screen that can only be solved with a reboot. I reverted it back to 4.4.4 and all was fine, but then decided to load 5.0 again just so I could play with it and see how it all worked(still have the 5 ghz and black screen bugs though). Overall, I'm not real impressed with all the white menus and some of the updated Google apps like the Calendar and lack of a generic Email app...I don't want to mix in my work email with my Gmail. This will definitely take some time getting used too, also needs some bugs fixed.
[Nexus 5 General] Wakamatsu:
I made a few attempts to get f2fs-all and root working on Lollipop but was quite able to get it done to my satisfaction. Each time I wound up restoring a 4.4.4 backup. I'll be staying on KK until f2fs tools become available and more mature for L.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
I couldn't disagree more. It's pretty, that's for sure, but it is waaaay too buggy to call it a much better experience. I really feel like Google rushed it out the door.

Humor me, why do you feel it's a better experience?
[Nexus 5 General] Mrwirez:
Ok I'll bite..

My Nexus 5 on Lollipop...

-30% better battery life

-Faster

-Smoother

-Better looking

-Much better menu integration and overall standards in the Lollipop/5.0 OS

I am running a custom ROM with v.LXR21T. It is much more polished and less buggy than earlier releases. And yes, better than 4.4.4, and no-more buggy than iOS that been recently released.

FWIW, maybe this us the new norm.
[Nexus 5 General] wiswis:
Hey guys. I am currently on lollipop, I fastbooted the factory image. Is there anyway for me to go back to a KitKat ROM.I miss all the features xD
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Fair enough. What ROM are you running? I'm using N5X and it has been pretty great, but not flawless.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Yup, the exact same way you flashed lollipop.
[Nexus 5 General] Mrwirez:
"Sent from my iPhone using TapaTalk" ???

Hmmm, anyway...

[ROM][5.0][LRX21T] FoxHound The Phantom Pain 1.4 [20 NOV] Gapp

http://xdaforums.com/google-nexus-5/development/rom-foxhound-phantom-pain-1-0-gapp-t2935017
[Nexus 5 General] diamonddawg21:
I actually like it myself, I have not ran into any major bugs but I actually like when a call comes in, it does not take over my phones screen, I ca keep on doing whatever I was doing and answer or ignore the call.

-Flash light added, I don't use it much but it is there now if I need it,

-two finger pull down shows battery %

-Notifications are much better,

I'm sure there are more, but at least we have something new, and if there are bugs Google will fix them, vs not having anything new at all.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Lol I have 4 phones, one is an iPhone. I'm a nondenominational smartphone fanatic. I just like cool toys :)
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
There are definitely some things I like about Lollipop, the things you mentioned being some of them- I really like the new incoming call pop ups, and the new notification/quick settings shade is really slick. If Google fixes the bugs and Xposed gets updated to work with it I won't think twice about switching to Lollipop as my daily driver. For now, I'm content to just mess around with it via multiROM.
[Nexus 5 General] mikeszf:
I really like lollipop but I just can't keep using it. I bought my nexus 5 in the first place because it's supposed to receive stable updates as soon as the android version is released but I've been using lollipop since it's official release and I felt like I was running a beta software.

The UI feels inconsistent, like half-ended. Some things are "painted holo", others material, others god knows what. They tried to simplify apps and ended up making them more complex. I knew, for a few seconds the frustration my mom must feel using a new feature on her phone, while trying to erase a contact!

The animations are slow and make the phone feel slower than it is and the 0.5x of the developer options is too fast.

I can't use the flashlight, It turns off after a minute or 2 and I have to restart the phone to use either the flashlight or the camera.

The WiFi drops randomly at about 5 metres from the router, and it says that is avoiding poor signal!

App incompatibility, They can't be directly blamed for it but still...

The battery drain, my phone takes 1 more hour to charge for a total of 3 hours and 15 minutes from completely drained and (based on system monitor app) discharges on 9 hours from the 12 of Kitkat on average with moderate use. It also discharges about 10% of the battery overnight when it was a max of 2% I'm used to only charge the phone in the afternoon because of this. This is the major reason of my switch; I can live with the others. I tried to look for a solution but then after a few hours I realised that avoiding this was the exact reason that made me get a nexus in the first place.

Pretty and all, I like how they finally started using the tinted status bar (yes, even the pink). I like the new visual style (or where it's going) and animations but I was running on a beta software so I will just wait until the final release. Also I just don't trust the thing, feels like if my phone is going to shut down and never turn on again for some reason (I know it won't, it just feels like), and thats being said by the one using os x with an amd processor.
[Nexus 5 General] mbellot:
Microsoft has been doing it for years, decades really. Apple joined the party with iOS 5. It figures Google would follow suit eventually.
[Nexus 5 General] shakennotstirred:
its running fine here so I see no need to go back to kit kat
[Nexus 5 General] apex84:
I'm staying with 4.4.4 (Paranoid Android) for now. Tried the stock image for 3-4 days but couldn't live without the extra functionality of PA like theme support, widgets on lock screen, customizable quick settings, clear all recent apps button, per app LED color customization. Also, I didn't think I would but I missed Xposed Framework. I like the general idea of Material design but I'm not too fond of all the bright colors. I'll wait for PA 5 and a Veu-like dark theme.
[Nexus 5 General] Venomous Viper 119:
I'm on lollipop right now & I have to say that the battery life sucks balls. KitKat was way better. And Google claimed that we'd get 50mins more battery with lollipop, wtf. Even I miss xposed a lot. But I'm still sticking with lollipop because we need to update ourselves & get comfortable with the latest stuff. Coz fast forward a couple of years, if you aren't up to date, you may find it a bit hard adjusting to the new features that android might sport then. I hope Google somehow fixes the battery drain.
[Nexus 5 General] s00000000000ka:
Waiting Purity :)

Inviato dal mio Nexus 5 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 General] Masteryates:
Lollipop last about a day on my phone for the following reasons:-

- New lock screen is a joke

- New volume controls are confusing :confused:

- Gallery app missing, Photo app only working with G+ WTF! :rolleyes:

- Quickoffice gone, Dont like Google docs, dont want my docs online

- Keyboard not working like in KK, now awful to use

It just feels like someone from Micro$oft walked into google about 3 months ago. First was the price of the Nexus 6 and now forcing various online apps down our throats. The whole lock screen mess feels like a copy of iOS. :crying:

I knew KK was good, but I'm starting to see it in a whole new light. :angel:
[Nexus 5 General] #sharath:
You guys were *****ing about Google not releasing the update at time, now after you got the update crying that it is full of issues. I think even Google was aware of certain issues, still they released for the sake of releasing the update for cry babies. :silly:
[Nexus 5 General] Primokorn:
I really don't think that all users who posted on this thread were expecting the official release :)
[Nexus 5 General] #sharath:
I was just saying in general. :)

The lollipop discussion thread we had earlier was crazy.
[Nexus 5 General] Mawtin:
Currently staying on KK due to Xposed.

Only reason for Xposed is for Tabletmetrics
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] essopsp:
" failed to initialize the camera " & " cannot connect to the camera "

Peace to all of you :o :D

I have a problem in two and I've been exposed to this problem in the Release KitKat and also encountered in Release Lollipop

The problem is I can not run unless the cameras were turned device and prepared again

And show me this message :eek: "Connect the camera" I ask you a quick fix :crying:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chriskoups:
Today i was thinking to make a thread about this problem.

The only temporary solution that i can find is to install kernel tuner beta and then from the task manager kill the process /system/bin/mm-qcamera-daemon.

It's just restart the process. Is the most easy way.

NO PERMANENT FIX JUST TEMPORARY!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] essopsp:
UP

UP UP UP

i need help :(:crying:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] surrealjam:
I can't help but I can confirm I've had the issues you describe on official 5.0 Lollipop. If you go to the Google product forums, you'll see lots of reports of the same thing as well as a page on Android Police:

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!categories/nexus/using-the-camera

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...s-the-camera-and-flashlight-until-you-reboot/

Looks like a version 5.0.1 is already required!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kodinos:
I can confirm that Lollipop update for Nexus 5 did not fix the "mm-qcamera-daemon" issue. There are still times when the process fails and you get the "Failed to initialize camera" pop-up. The only solution then is to reboot your device.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fone_fanatic:
To prevent this from happening use the back button to exit out of the camera or apps that use the camera such as Snapchat.

If you press the home button or power button to turn off the screen while the camera is open you'll get that error and you'll either have to remit to fix or do as [MENTION=2301917]chriskoups[/MENTION] recommended.
[Nexus Player Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] temesgen77:
Nexus Player arrives next week, I'm hoping someone can tell me if FoxSoccer2go and Amazon App work? And if so how do you load them onto the Nexus Player.

Thanks
[Nexus Player Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djwyman:
Amazon works but you will need an otg cable and some kind of mouse for it as it is made for touch devices. The other I do not know on.