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[LG G Watch R] anatidus:
I don't know if it will help any of you but hear is my "safe" watch face. What are it's features to help burn in:

1. It's fully read in Main face (digital) and Dim face (analog).

2. Main face (digital): basing on hour of day it's changing it's opacity for example I have set it up to have 100% from 7 am to 6 pm then it's changing for lower value like 35% or something. You can choose your own. (I don't have to say that less opacity is less light so lower in-burn)

3. Main face (digital): background is changing to 20% after 6 pm.

4. Dim face (analog): during day (7 am to 6 pm) it's setup on 50% of opacity (I work indoor so it's ok for me), from 6 pm to 10 pm it set up for 35% and from 10 pm to 7 am it's set up for 20%.

5. Dim face (analog): at 3 pm all not moving parts are rotated 15 degrees to have additional in-burn protection.

On Main face (digital) there is hour, weather (when you click on it it will force weather update), current temperature, current and next conditions, date, week number, steps, kilometers, phone battery level, watch battery level, WiFi connection strength, shortcut for agenda on watch, shortcut for fitness app and shortcut to check hart-rate.

Dim face (analog) is just analog so not much to say.

Remember that it's changing it's opacity basing on time so if you try it on your watch now it will be less visible than during day.

It's simple and not everyone will like it's look but I hope that it could help someone anyway.
[LG G Watch R] starbase64:
Hi,

this is my favorite > World Leader 2.0 > http://facerepo.com/app/faces/details/world-leader-v2-0-14b6b809345

regards

starbase64
[LG G Watch R] starbase64:
code from build.prop in android wear 5.0.2

ro.ambient.burn_in_protection=1

ro.ambient.burn_in_x_offset=0,2,4,6,6,4,2,0,-2,-4,-6,-6,-4,-2

ro.ambient.burn_in_y_offset=0,2,4,4,2,0,-2,-4,-6,-6,-4,-2

ro.ambient.burn_in_radius_max=7
[LG G Watch R] millemots:
Second watch face I installed, and the first one I've modified (change day abbreviations to English and temperature to Fahrenheit). Thanks for posting this up!
[LG G Watch R] Android-xp:
Hi there, just wanted to add my oppinion/experiences aswell depending the burn in problem ;)

I'm using the same Watchface as you (OP) for about 2 months now and I still do not have any burn in effects on my Screen.

Cheers
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
The watch face has been updated since the OP's experience. So anyone using it now, is not using the exact "same" version they had back then.
[LG G Watch R] d802:
You should download a live screensaver to the watch with all color spectrums and play it 2-3 times a week for 10min each time. The whole problem is "always on" I never do that with any screen. When I forget to turnoff my plasma screen on still pictures I get burn in and solve it with live screen saver.

Try changing ambient mode to low bit mode in developer settings.
[LG G Watch R] RngrYogi:
Hello maybe you can help me because I have found no info on how to do totally disable android wears burn in protection on my huawei watch on 5.1.1. I tried a suggesstion of editing the build.pro and adding these lines in but they seem to have no effect whatsoever on disabling the pixel shift in ambient mode.

I added these line in notepad++ and then changed them to what i though would disable anything like the next set

ro.ambient.burn_in_protection=1

ro.ambient.burn_in_x_offset=0,2,4,6,6,4,2,0,-2,-4,-6,-6,-4,-2

ro.ambient.burn_in_y_offset=0,2,4,4,2,0,-2,-4,-6,-6,-4,-2

ro.ambient.burn_in_radius_max=7

ro.ambient.burn_in_protection=0

ro.ambient.burn_in_x_offset=0

ro.ambient.burn_in_y_offset=0

ro.ambient.burn_in_radius_max=0

If you know how or where I can look to change a setting to disable it I would owe u a beer for sure!

I am rooted and have full access to anything I need to change. Please contact me asap and feel free to PM me or quote me here. Thanks!
[LG G Watch R] soundbass:
Any idea what I can do with this? Only colors like red yellow and magenta rare burned like hell, blue and green are clear...
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
There are no other colours than Red, Green and Blue. You need to check those pure colours for uniformity issues and address that problem. There are burn-in fixers on the playstore.

// sent from my phone //
[LG G Watch R] dj.kure:
I have the same problem :(

http://cl.ly/183c0O2m0m2q/amoled_vypaleny.jpg

Huawei Watch - after four days of use.
[LG G Watch R] zviki:
Burn-in effect is totally different from this.
[LG G Watch R] dunjamon:
I knew it! I thought I was going mad. I noticed that some of the numbers were not properly aligned to the dial around the watch, then when I turned the screen on it shifted. Does the watch move custom watchfaces too? or just the in-built ones?
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
When the watch enters DIM state, it will shift the image no matter what it is displayed on it. This includes, of course, the custom watchfaces too :).
[LG G Watch R] UnlnvlslblE:
I just picked up one of these and I had no idea burn issues were so bad on these type of screens. I consider myself to be pretty tech savvy since I get paid for my tech knowledge but this was not obvious to me. I can't believe they ship it at high brightness and always on if that's going to cause burn... I don't recall reading any warning about that. OP if I were you I'd return it, that's unacceptable.
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
One thought .... remember the first plasma TVs that were on the market?

No one was giving a heads-up about the terrible urn-in that was visible in case you were watching a TV station with a stationary logo in one corner.

The forums were full of methods of properly bringing a plasa TV to life .. with that progressive brightness and using zoomed images (so you get rid of the stationary logos in the picture) and so on ...

Well ... OLED technology is now like PLASMA TVs were back in the days.

Me, as a owner of other gadgets with OLED displays, I learned my lesson ... No stationary images with high contrast. No high brightness for long periods of time while displaying a stationary image (like a watch backdrop with fixed objects). And, basically, what I've already wrote above. It worked so far.
[LG G Watch R] dew.man:
Very nicely done!
[LG G Watch R] 2k4ever:
wow, that really looks bad, I'm sorry man!

I'v just tested the grey image on my LGWR and I can see minimal burn-in in always on mode

I'm quite experienced with OLED screens (been using the original Samsung Galaxy S as my daily driver for 4 years)

on the SGS I did occasionally notice worse "burn-in" than I can see on my watch - that always disappeared after a few minutes

as my watch has been running all day using the always on mode, I'll redo the test tomorrow morning - hopefully the problem solves itself with a good night's rest

additional info: I have the watch for 2 weeks now and I have been running almost exclusively a WatchMaker face I created myself with burn-in in mind (mostly black with hour marks that change every hour)

EDIT: i rechecked this morning (watch screen was off all night) and "burn-in" i noticed yesterday evening was gone - so at least in my case its more like the ghosting I'm familiar with from my days with the SGS1
[LG G Watch R] impala454:
While your post seems very useful, this is a very disturbing comment. Reminiscent of a certain fruit company telling its customers they were holding their phone incorrectly. If there's issues with the device, LG should not have released it. If you're not supposed to turn the brightness up all the way, the underlying settings should be different. More broadly, the device shouldn't let the user do something through normal means that harms the device.

This thread has been very helpful in determining if/which Android watch to get.
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
I said "you need to be aware" because OLED technology is still at the begining of a looong way (I hope). Being "fresh" ... it is somehow expected to have issues.

Look for example at moto360 - even if it's using a LCD screen, because of the compromises needed for the thickness and shape, it suffers from "burn-in" (it is actually something else, not "burning") but still, it makes the display unusable after a while. And that is a 30 years old technology.

As a tech savvy guy, I'm just issuing a warning here: if you want long life out of your OLED screen, do not crank it up to the max.

P.S.: If you buy a brand new impala (just sayin') and you use it at max rpm all that time, how fast do you think it will break-down? Well ... you probably are "aware how to handle an impala" ;) ...

P.S.2: I still believe (I truly believe it) that LG G Watch R is the best android wear gadget on the market ATM. You just need to be a little careful when using it.
[LG G Watch R] kushal.purkar:
Should I buy it???

I want to buy LG G WATCH R.

Will this burn-in create a permanent problem to screen?

P-OLED are made of polymer or plastic(?), will they be durable like glass in long run?.

Will it wear out like plastic things and show scratches after some time too?
[LG G Watch R] doki81:
cant agree more :)
[LG G Watch R] wintrxtrem:
I want to get this watch and I REALLY want to use the 007 Goldeneye watchface, called "Secret Agent Watchface" in the play store.

Do you believe that watchface would be dangerous for burn in? Perhaps developer should be requested to use green color for the dim mode?
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
I just looked at it. Not mandatory green but I would suggest a little darker. Anyway, it is a matter of taste :). You can always use one of the "DIY" watchfaces out there, like "facer" or "watchmaker" to replicate the behaviour of the JB watchface and set the desired brightness levels for the dim mode.
[LG G Watch R] ED2O9:
FYI - I tried the Stuck Pixel app, and it did improve the burn-in. I can still see it on certain dimmed backgrounds, but only because I know it's there. You know... it's the whole "can't be unseen" thing. Actually, running the app seemed to dim the whole screen slightly which isn't a bad thing since I've felt it was too bright in most indoor situations even at a setting of 1. It's just kinda sad that you have to basically damage the whole screen slightly to minimize the burn-in when LG should simply change the available brightness levels to avoid problems.
[LG G Watch R] Hawke84:
Glad it's got a bit better for you. Do you think you'll RMA to get it exchanged?
[LG G Watch R] dersie:
Try Mini Wear laucher, his brigthness setup reduce almost at level 0.2 compared to the 1 level LG ;)
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Android Wear Burn-in Protection Explained!
[LG G Watch R] Hawke84:
Interesting but it obviously didn't work for [MENTION=1012707]ED209[/MENTION], ed what app were you using? Facet Dev said he has included burning protection in app...
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
If you have a bright, white object which is large, for example a disk shape (like the background of the mini-dials from the aviator watch), even if you shift the entire image by few pixels, the pixels from the inner part of the bright disk will remain bright ... only the ones at periphery will actually change brightness. So, the burn in will occur. This is the OLED draw-back at this moment.
[LG G Watch R] chrisnewton:
Am I right in thinking if you have screen set to off unless you either tap screen or rotate wrist then burn in is unlikely to happen?
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Good observation.

I'll be moving from the Samsung Gear Live to the "R". I keep my Gear Live screen on 24 x 7. And use it as my night clock too. So even "screen on" on while charging, via the Dev Option setting. I don't care to have to do any special actions to see the time. Never had a burn in issue. But I only use very thin lined watch faces for extended periods, to avoid any area suffering from burn in issues.
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
You are 100% right. But you need to live with a black screen (unless you activate it).

In my opinion, a watch must be like a watch - always able to display time. Therefore, I'm using custom watch faces with thin lines and lots of back in the ambient mode and nice bright looks in the "awaken" mode.
[LG G Watch R] Hawke84:
looking at all the stock watch faces they all fit the description of thin lines when the screen is off apart from the 'Suit' watch face that has a battery icon on the left which is a big block of white. not sure how the screen shifting can move something this size. what are your thoughts?
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
That battery is not a "white" block but more it is a "grey" block. More than that, it had about 6 pixels in width so basically, you will get a only few pixels that will "never" turn off, which looks to be a very low risk of burn-in.

More than that, it's not constant illumination that is causing burn-in in the first place, but constant illumination with "high brightness". I would not be concerned about the "suit" watchface.
[LG G Watch R] Polarfuchs:
The burn-in is a general OLED issue?

Or is it specific to P-OLED?

I ask this because the new Asus Zenwatch uses an OLED display, too. But AMOLED instead of P-OLED, what's the difference there?
[LG G Watch R] MasK:
I'm seeing screen burn as well at the "talk now" screen which is white. I could see faint numbers of my watch face. However, I felt that it is very minor and one needs to squint in order to see it.

Also, after a night's stay on the cradle (with the screen off), this scenario seems to be reset and this "burn" is almost not there. I've had this watch for a week with face on and overall, I'm not too concerned right now.

What I'm observing.. does it make sense?
[LG G Watch R] haupman:
Will this simply be avoided if we stick with stock watch faces and avoid custom faces? Anything else?
[LG G Watch R] tonyguy2000:
See if this helps you!

http://www.oled-info.com/pmoled-vs-amoled-whats-difference
[LG G Watch R] Polarfuchs:
[MENTION=3306919]tonyguy2000[/MENTION]

That's not the correct article. The G Watch R doesn't use a PMOLED (passive matrix) display.

It has a P-OLED (polymer) display. I found the correct article on the website you linked http://www.oled-info.com/p-oled

A little bit concerning:
[LG G Watch R] tonyguy2000:
Thanks for the correction!
[LG G Watch R] wkwk:
Manage a list of safe watch faces on first page?

Would like to know which faces are safe. I gather Aviator is not safe, is that right?.
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
A correction to the corection :) ... P-OLED from GWR it's coming from Plastic-OLED which defines the flexible substrate on which the OLED it's built.

The OLED material from G is latest tech, state of the art .. nevertheless, It's an OLED, which means faster degradation of the blue compound.

The burn-in you see after usage at high brightness settings is nothing else than lower blue light emission in those areas (that why is visible especially on the grey images, where a constant blue light has a very important role).

I'm trying to use faces with mainly red, green or orange colours (orange being a mixture of red and green) or, in case of the full spectrum, to use colours that use less blue.

For the guys customising their watch faces (using one of the many available apps), when you define a bright text or colour, look at the hex code of the colour : XXYYZZTT where XX is hexa code for transparency, YY is red level, ZZ is green level and TT is blue level. ... so try keeping the last two hex numbers in the low area, meaning below 100 (00 means 0, FF means 256, as colour intensity).
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Seems Aviator is not safe for extended use, especially if you always have the screen on. I wonder if the creator might have disabled the automatic screen shifting that helps prevent burn-in?

Safe watch faces would be any that in their dimmed state have minimal features and are not bright. Thin lines are best.
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
I'm a big fan of the Pujie Black watch face. You can easily make it into anything you want.

I use Aviator when in public places for some hours. Since it resembles a regular looking watch face, while offering other details like temperature. But I never keep using Aviator for extended periods or days.
[LG G Watch R] NicksGarage:
Here is the burn in on my GWR. Only visible on light-colored faces in dim mode.
[LG G Watch R] Hawke84:
Was the burn in caused by a stock watch face or custom?
[LG G Watch R] NicksGarage:
Custom watch face in dim mode. Made it on Sunday. In real life the brightness looks half as bright as this picture shows and the date text is actually grey. The numbers are green.

I agree with others that it's not unreasonable to expect to use it in always on mode. Especially since it takes quite a bit of wrist flicking to get the display to come on.

The bright screen... Again the blue parts are actually grey to the eye and the whole thing is half that brightness. I normally run at brightness 4 during the day and 1 at night.
[LG G Watch R] haupman:
Is the moral of the story here that we should only use stock watch faces in always on mode and if we go custom to turn always on mode off?
[LG G Watch R] NicksGarage:
It looks like some of the included ones could cause this problem as well.
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Given this, the original "G Watch" that is selling for just $79 at Best Buy might really have the "better" screen.

I'm just moving to the "R" from a Gear Live and threads like this are not common in the Gear Live forum. I know the Gear Live and original G Watch are very similar.
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
I will repeat this until people will be aware of it: AVOID using BLUE in "always on" mode. So, only GREEN and RED (and combinations - yellow, orange).

Blue OLED is deprecating fast and it will cause burn-in.

If you are to use blue (meaning, any color containing blue) then, at least, make sure it is a moving object (line hour/minute hands) or very small ones (pixel size).
[LG G Watch R] DrViruser:
Would you mind sharing your watch face so I can use it on my GWR without worrying this OLED thingy? I happen to like your design :)
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
I will pack all my watch faces (for WatchMaker - this is what I'm using) later today and I'll share them.
[LG G Watch R] DrViruser:
Thanks, at the moment I will use this watch face. It fits your description, at least from my understanding...;)
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
It does, but it also depends on the brightness in dim mode (if the dim mode is being used).
[LG G Watch R] DrViruser:
well i set it to all lowest brightness, and i editted the watch face , on the dimmed mode (black background with only orange minutes/hour hands), i tinted the those needles. best i can do.

But i still look forward for your design! :D:D
[LG G Watch R] Polarfuchs:
I will wait for CES and MWC. Hopefully the next iteration of displays/watches doesn't need a workaround to survive (to not have burn in).
[LG G Watch R] DrViruser:
well i guess the only way to not have burn in issue would be entirely drop the OLED implementation, and implement something else like IPS maybe
[LG G Watch R] Polarfuchs:
But almost all smart-watches use Oled, right? (LG G Watch, LG G Watch R, Asus Zenwatch, Samsung Gear Live, Samsung Gear S, ...) Only the Moto360 has an LCD?
[LG G Watch R] NicksGarage:
I didn't use any blue in my design although that's what my phone Camera sees. I changed the dimmed state to orange anyway based on the recommendations here.
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
It doesn't have to be blue in order to use blue. It might be a color that uses blue as a main component.

The easiest way to check that is to look at the hex code of the color: last 2 characters (00 to FF, meaning 0 to 256 intensity level) are the blue level.

The hex code is of a color is 8 or 6 characters long (if 8 then the transparency level is set in the code also): TTRRGGBB or RRGGBB

Transparency

Red

Green

Blue
[LG G Watch R] 2k4ever:
The original LG G Watch uses an LCD display

However, the Gear Live doesn't seem to suffer from Burn-in - at least not too mutch

Samsungs AMOLED technology seems superior to LGs P-OLED
[LG G Watch R] wkwk:
Keeping a close eye on this thread. My watch is coming end of the week, considering these watchfaces:

Opinions on screen burn?
[LG G Watch R] thex:
how do you find the advanced brightness settings in Wear Mini Launcher? I installed it but it does not appear.
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
[MENTION=396790]wkwk[/MENTION] the active mode does not matter. The important thing is how it's handling the dim mode, if it is utilised.

[MENTION=335291]thex[/MENTION] - just swype again in mini launcher and you should reach the settings screen

// sent from my phone //
[LG G Watch R] thex:
i see the brightness slider - but not advanced brightness. When the watch goes to dim - it is actually brigher
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Maybe something like this would help if made for Android Wear?

[YOUTUBE]o2ObO-YjEPM[/YOUTUBE]
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
There is one and has been used with some positive results ... it was described earlier in the thread ...

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.lab102.watchstuckpixels
[LG G Watch R] Polarfuchs:
What they basically do, is use/age the red and green subpixels, so that they are as used as the more quickly aging blue subpixels.

So it would also be more effective to only show a green and red screen and leave the plain blue out.
[LG G Watch R] NicksGarage:
Seems like all that is doing is shortening the life of the entire screen. Other than this watch I've only had LCD displays.
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
It is not shortening but more like "breaking in" .. I don't know the english term exactly. Like when you buy a new car and you need to drive like few hundreds/thousands Km before the engine will deliver what it is supposed to deliver ...

OLED displays need this ... Plasma displays need this also.

---------- Post added 4th December 2014 at 12:09 AM ---------- Previous post was 3rd December 2014 at 11:43 PM ----------

A promise is a promise :)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=57234620&postcount=20
[LG G Watch R] Koopa777:
The default "Sapphire" face in always-on mode, will this cause burn-in do you think? It is blue, which is why I am asking.
[LG G Watch R] leyvatron:
What is the 3rd watch face with the digits? :D
[LG G Watch R] doki81:
are you sure? i try this sapphire face and there is a dim mode...
[LG G Watch R] farble1670:
stock faces

all of the stock faces are grayscale in dim mode, so i imagine there's something to that.

this thread has scared me enough such that i will now stick with the stock faces. and yes, i'd certainly return this thing if i get burn in. for goodness sake it wasn't cheap. if it has an always on mode it'd better work without destroying the display.
[LG G Watch R] chrisnewton:
Just about to order mine, so just to clarify if I have the watch set so It goes off completely unless I flick my wrist or tap it etc then I don't have to worry about image burn no matter what face I use?
[LG G Watch R] NicksGarage:
The stock Sapphire face is one I use a lot. The dim mode does have blue elements but they are very small and probably the shifting helps avoid burn-in with it.

I ran the Stuck Pixel Fixer for Wear app on mine and that cleared up the visible burn in. Along with changing the dim state of my custom face to orange from blue/green and using always on mode less. I'm going to leave it in always on mode for the next couple days to see what happens.