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[One (M9) General] Super Chimp:
And this is a problem because...

Lots of manufacturers don't change the design every year.
[One (M9) General] Tachi91:
...well

M8+

Grip (fitbit)

VR headset

I really do wish them good, but I'll skip over the M9 and the Vive.

The grip, meh maybe.
[One (M9) General] GigabitEthernet:
It is quite shameful that a guy sitting in his room on Photoshop could design a better phone than HTC.
[One (M9) General] Icyman:
Exactly what I've been waiting for. Buying two with my upgrades.
[One (M9) General] TwistyValhalla:
Yah.. not really a problem. I just summarized what I saw haha
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
im super excited because bigger battery with same screen size is a dam WIN
[One (M9) General] rkial:
So the only complaint people can think of is it not having a new design? Having to stick with the design of one of the most beautiful phones ever..

What a problem to have.
[One (M9) General] Alton (Halo 2):
Exactly. I love the design. I don't mind it at all
[One (M9) General] fix-this!:
HTC= Help This Company
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
SOMEBODY PLEASE UPDATE THE HTC ONE M9 PICTURE FOR THIS WHOLE FORUM. ITS REMINDING ME OF WHAT COULD OF HAPPEND. SMH:rolleyes::eek:
[One (M9) General] Dharkan:
I don't get some of the complaints really. HTC has the best UI in the market. They changed the camera, they have better internal specs.

Seeing people calling the phone they LOVED last year as "ugly, boring" is really hypocritical. If you don't want to buy it becaue of the black HTC bar? Fine, don't buy it. But this will be the best smartphone experience like the last one.
[One (M9) General] Mikulec:
100 people, 100 testes. I dont like the M8 design, I do more like design like 1+1, Nexus 5 even the new LG Flex2.
[One (M9) General] microcris:
Yes but with photoshop everything is easier and nicer... Even girls photos

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M9) General] Icyman:
But that doesn't mean his design would be functional. Yes, Architects dream it but Engineers make it work. Function always trumps cosmetics.

We don't have to like it but we do have to except it.
[One (M9) General] Mikulec:
This quote is like from HTCs marketing material. :p
[One (M9) General] CrazyTurk42:
This.

HTC will always be the best imo.
[One (M9) General] Super Chimp:
Maybe I'm coming at this from a different perspective as I'm new to HTC, would have maybe got the M8 last year if not for the camera & lack of internal memory & the M9 appears to resolve those two issues. Plus a larger battery. I see this as an M8S.
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
so stoked for this phone! ~2 weeks and it will be mine!
[One (M9) General] Slicktune:
They didn't discuss size (whether they made it thinner or not) they didn't demo sense 7 (how the messaging app looks or phone app looks) they didnt state how many megapixels the front facing camera was just the "300% more" of whatever they said... No new smart watch, the plus phone didn't get released, this is all a bunch of horse $&#@!!! Bad presentation Kim Jong Un would agree
[One (M9) General] Ndaoud360:
Anyone know if the Dolby addition is software or hardware?
[One (M9) General] GigabitEthernet:
The Verge say the new camera sucks.
[One (M9) General] ThePhoneGeek:
For M7 owners coming up on the end of a 2 year contract, I get it. It is a major upgrade for them. If you're an M8 owner then this is really nothing special except a costly camera upgrade.

I am so beyond disappointed in HTC. They are completely distracted with garbage besides making phones. The front of the phone was the greatest issue last year with damn bezels and big black bar. Sure the camera was crap last year too and I get it they fixed that but why not fix the one thing that lets down the look of the front of the device.
[One (M9) General] rkial:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_mwc_2015-review-1215p3.php

57k on antutu

[YOUTUBE]9Rg5N_CIMOI[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M9) General] n1234d:
Just finished watching the m9 live stream.. I must say, the m9 is a solid phone, and fixes the m8 spec wise, but, as an m8 user, I don't feel compelled to upgrade to the m9 like how I was from the m7 to m8. I don't find the design very appealing. Sure, I like the new darker gunmetal color, but I feel that the camera looks like a step backward, although it'll probably perform lots better.. 5.1 sound from the speakers will have to be tested to see how good it actually is. Call me mad, but I don't like the super shiny edges too, they'll just scuff up 10x faster than the m8. I feel the m7 was best in that regard, it was flat plastic, helped with grip, and no chance of scuffing up. M8 also was well thought of, the edges are all matte finished unlike it's glossy back. The m9 seems like a logical upgrade for the m7 users tho.

What I'm more interested in now is the vr headset. Looks like it will be really interesting.. Just my two cents ;) share your opinions..
[One (M9) General] dfMails:
Source ;)
[One (M9) General] fix-this!:
good thing i dont buy phones based on the camera.
[One (M9) General] Super Chimp:
The examples on GSMArena look OK to me.
[One (M9) General] Slicktune:
Im so livid right now i wanna slam my phone against my Versace granite floor, so i can AT LEAST have a valid reason to get this phone...!!!! So it takes a year to upgrade a camera? But it only took Samsung a couple months to make the vibrant (galaxy s1) with a new camera? This makes no sense im so angrry i could cry dog poop out my eyes and shove carrots up my ears!!!![emoji36] [emoji36] [emoji36]
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
raw is supported :D

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_mwc_2015-review-1215p4.php
[One (M9) General] MoonRaven:
Pocketnow stated the camera software is not final yet. The Verge should've known that.
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
Full specs:

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_m9-6891.php
[One (M9) General] Icyman:
http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/1/8126431/htc-one-m9-hands-on-preview

I just love the irony of his statement "Image noise is present in most of my pictures, and low-light photography is basically a disaster." and that's why I love the camera on the M8. Bigger sensor pixels means better low light pictures. Maybe this guy is bipolar! WTF
[One (M9) General] ThePhoneGeek:
http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/1/8126431/htc-one-m9-hands-on-preview

Then you'll most likely be happy with the M8 because the M9 really adds nothing else.
[One (M9) General] dfMails:
The phone can take RAW photos out of the box, but you can only edit them on a computer. Speaking of editing, users now have a choice of brand new and improved effects. HTC did a lot of work in this department and replaced the old visual enhancements, which were kind of cheesy. New effects now include Shapes, Prismatic, Elements and Bokeh.

That's nice,...
[One (M9) General] Itay2108:
theres a saying: if something isn't broken, don't fix it.

that's exactly what they did, with the camera too- you all hated UltraPixels? they switched it to a regular sensor.

i don't really think that the aim of this phone is to be a camera phone.

DON'T LIKE IT? BUY AN S6
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
Full hands on review:

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_mwc_2015-review-1215.php
[One (M9) General] starbase64:
> Photo Mate 2 ;)
[One (M9) General] Super Chimp:
Glad to see they've moved to taking a nano-SIM. No excuse these days for a flagship not using that these days.
[One (M9) General] GigabitEthernet:
The M8 was a nano-SIM...
[One (M9) General] Super Chimp:
I thought it was still micro, so thanks for the correction.:)
[One (M9) General] Slicktune:
THRY DIDNT EVEN SAY A RELEASE DATE WTF!!! for those being blinded by thr m9 and saying your gonna get it, when? WHEN ARE U GONNA GET OT IF THERES NO RELEASE DATEEE!!! AHHHH!!! i wanna put my big toe on my Gucci gold plated fridge and close the door on it and notice that the pain of the fact that i waited a year just for a new camera is much higher than me cutting my big toe off!!!
[One (M9) General] David111jr:
They said 2nd week of march
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
i wont be able to wait 2 weeks for this phone. i just cant.
[One (M9) General] Mikulec:
Two different reviews and both mention that the power button is too low.

BTW, that black thing on the upper side, is that IR blaster?
[One (M9) General] Super Chimp:
A day using HTC One M9 as a camera (hands-on).

http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/a-day-with-htc-one-m9s-new-cameras/
[One (M9) General] TwistyValhalla:
Talks about the camera here, http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/1/8126431/htc-one-m9-hands-on-preview

But from what I gather it's not the final camera software so shouldn't be so quick to judge.
[One (M9) General] Dharkan:
I hate Verge for doing something like that. I bet they are getting paid to do news like that.

Phone is just released the first news they are making about it is putting it down into the ground?
[One (M9) General] dfMails:
androidpolice ftw :D
[One (M9) General] TwistyValhalla:
I wonder if M9 will get a glacial silver version. Really prefer that over the "hairline" finish.
[One (M9) General] Icyman:
No, author is just a pompous a$$ who has never designed, built or contributed anything of value to any product ever.
[One (M9) General] Slicktune:
Dude i dont like being negative or hate on ppls success but man wtf!!! They deserve to get put down, the verge is doing us a favor, u guys are the ones messing things up, if we act complacent or content with m9 HTC will never make bigger changes to their devices because they know we'll be happy anyways or you guys I'll be happy i wont, i dont support the fact that these guys are millionaire with amazing brains super intelligent and all they did was switch the camera and 2 time the design color and upgrade the software that m8 is going to get anyways? And for the geeks on here we all know that those 20 megapixels get compressed anyways whem they get uploaded to social media like Facebook and Instagram, so if you guys support that then by all means.. But me nah man i don't work hard for my money then throw it so these guys can get paid while we work hard to earn $600 for a camera? Seriously tho for an effin camera!!!!??? CAMERA!!! IM TELLIN YOU IM SO LIVID THAT I WANNA APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO INVENT MY OWN PHONE TO PLEASE THE PUBLIC HOW IT SHOULD BE!!! im sorry guys, im so sorry im not the head of htc!
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2AiATDZ-LY

review
[One (M9) General] fix-this!:
we have no clue when this will be released. might be a preorder in two weeks.

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you can thank apple for this "innovation" we see from htc and samsung.
[One (M9) General] xep624:
Camera

Am I wrong or is the zoe camera not in the m9?

That would be very disappointing - I love the 3sec-pictures! Also I like the m8s duo-camera - I'm not so excited about the 20 MP because I hate the huge size of the pictures (and let's be honest: No one reduces the image size manually). Had a Galaxy s5 and the pictures where okay - but not worse or better than the m8s - except for the size.
[One (M9) General] Slicktune:
HOW ARE U FANBOYS NOT SEEING THIS!?!?! ITS EVEN THICKER!!!

I give up guys...
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
they said mid-march to US carriers in the unveiling.
[One (M9) General] TwistyValhalla:
Yes, a bit thicker.

M9 = 9.61 mm

M8 = 9.35 mm
[One (M9) General] fix-this!:
yeah well don't forget verizon and at&t want to bloat it up and do testing. plus im hearing the m9 firmware isnt complete yet.
[One (M9) General] progosu:
what a sad day, looks like Samsung is going to dominate this year even more.
[One (M9) General] CrazyTurk42:
I actully laughed. You okay dude?
[One (M9) General] fix-this!:
yeah well... their current stock prices don't reflect that statement. dont be too quick to assume the s6 will sell better. im hearing it will be $800+ off contract. over a grand for a 128gb version. only a iJunky would pay that much for a phone.
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
true, but im switching to Sprint. main reason for me upgrading. otherwise i wouldn't.
[One (M9) General] CrazyTurk42:
I rather have a thicker phone with bigger battery then a slim phone with a small battery
[One (M9) General] fix-this!:
the battery isnt that much larger.
[One (M9) General] TwistyValhalla:
Looking at battery stats on HTC website..

M9

Capacity: 2840 mAh

Talk time: Up to 25.4 hours for 2G/ 21.7 hours for 3G

Standby time: Up to 391 hours for 2G/ 402hours for 3G

M8

Capacity: 2600 mAh

Talk time: Up to 20 hours for 3G

Standby time: Up to 496 hours for 3G

Don't understand why the standby time takes such a big hit on the M9 even with a bigger battery. Maybe something to do with the 810. Talk time is higher on the M9 though. :)
[One (M9) General] Ndaoud360:
Honestly though, they spent money on the fitness tracker thing and vr headset when they could've used that money on a better phone with new design based on the leaks, 2k screen, bigger battery for the 2k screen, not just surround sound but 40% louder boomsound like m7 to m8 also with bose, maybe team up with a really good camera company to get DSLR quality photos with 20 Ultra pixels instead of regular pixels. Just my thought BUT I still think the phone is an improvement over the last and which I might upgrade my from my m8 to MAINLY due to the fact that I will get more money selling my m8 now vs selling it when the m10 comes out. So when the m10 comes out I can sell the m9 and so the cycle continues.
[One (M9) General] Jonny:
No, I mean really fixed, look >>> http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/0...xes-its-overheating-snapdragon-810-processor/

Qualcomm doesn't decide/dictate what frequency OEM's run the CPU at - though they do indicate a safe bracket of frequencies to run the chip on. If its downclocked then that was HTC's decision, however, HTC have history of downclocking all their CPU chips (original sensation etc etc) so its no surprise that they continue to do so here.
[One (M9) General] Jonny:
Frankly The Verge has been going downhill for a long time though - far too many biased iSheep on their journalist team (Anyone remember their review of the Moto 360, apparently it looks "ugly" to them while the iWatch looks "stunning, beautiful" etc). So I'm not going by what they say as they have a history of slamming anything that isn't made by Apple.
[One (M9) General] riz157:
I really like the htc one m9 but probably won't take the plunge this time as I prefer bigger screen. I was hoping htc would launch I larger version but unfortunately they didn't.

Now I will either wait for xiaomi mi pro note 4 or wait for htc to launch bigger phone.

Incidentally s6 edge looks beautiful with its glass back. And edge screen.
[One (M9) General] fix-this!:
The s6 and s6 edge look kinda ugly to me and the m9 just isnt enough to warrant an upgrade. Just my 2 cents.
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
theres many thing they could have done with it, but when push comes to shove, how practical would it be? 2k screen is pointless. you cant tell the difference between 1080p and 1440p when viewing it that close with the same size screen. Theres a reason why the camera is the way it is. DSLR cameras are WAY bigger and are WAY heavier. In order to get good sound from speakers, they need to be bigger than the phone its self. i think people are expecting the impossible and getting mad if it cant be delivered. nothing is perfect.
[One (M9) General] zehoo2:
Seeing how thick the phone is they probably should have opted for OIS on the camera.
[One (M9) General] hgoldner:
I have seen and held an M9. The M9 is imperceptibly thicker than the M8. I can't really tell the difference. The M8 flip and Dotview cases for the M9, but the sensor on the M9 is in a different place so M8 Dotview cases won't work on an M9.

In all other respects, the two devices are the same size.

I will add that the M9 speakers, screen and cameras are discernibly better than the M8. The system is also faster, and the battery bigger.

My name is Harold and I'm a flashaholic.....
[One (M9) General] Slicktune:
Agreed 100% I really really.... Really hate the glass back on the s6 and the edge is nasty looking those curves remind me of the old blackberry touch its so ugly... Hideous P.O.S. and just because I can't contain myself from upgrading, if I do it's going to have to be the m9 the silver with gold edges caught my eye... But who knows if tmobile will sell that version...smhh
[One (M9) General] kami2k:
Also the cam on back of s6 is out, which also look very odd
[One (M9) General] Poetique:
This is making my brain hurt.

S6 Edge design, wireless charging, OIS, and (seemingly) raw compute power make me want it.

One M9 speakers and guaranteed developer support is making me want it.

...Damnit, HTC, Samsung, hold hands and make a phone together and just destroy Apple for the sake of us all. Pls >_<

The device the two would make would be 100% disgustingly fantastic.
[One (M9) General] thekkk:
Why there aren't any videos of the HTC One m9 in gray? every hands on is on a silver/gold edition, and only some photos for the gray version

I don't exactly know how the gray-version looks like, because on some images the back seems to be very reflective and ugly. also it seems that the gray version is looking different on every photo :S
[One (M9) General] Dharkan:
This is really funny, I liked the gunmetal color of M8 but I didn't buy M8, I had M7. I was hoping to get the same color of M9 and now they have a much darker color now.

I'll go with gold or silver/gold this time I guess.
[One (M9) General] Jimmmycrackcorn:
welp, I'm wonderfully unimpressed.......i'll just hold out for Sense 7 on my M8 and hope the M10 is the gorgeous phone that we all saw in the early renders.
[One (M9) General] Alton (Halo 2):
If we root the m9 shouldn't we be able to disable one of the 4 cores in the phone?
[One (M9) General] th3:
Not good news for the HTC fans... nor for HTC.

I won't be moving to the M9. Will just get Sense 7 on the M8. Will the M8 be the new Desire?? [emoji4]

M7 and M8 were very stylish for their era. M9 isn't; it's worse looking than the M8 in many ways.

Then, talking business economics... if you are making just a slight incremental increase, that should always be your middle segment products, not your top enthusiasts segment product. Silly product management.

Top power button view: M8 was thick in the middle and thinner on the sides.

Talking brand and consumer PR: They don't need major expensive changes like 2k or cam. They just needed to change the internals that they have, but to make the front slicker.

Leaving the top/bottom black bars was a major mistake. And from what I've so far seen, so are the colour options.

If there's no + model addressing such issues... HTC profits will plummet this year. Uncle Sam and Aunt Apple will steal many customers.

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[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
im hoping so! but at this point, until it gets released, no one will know if we can even unlock the bootloader. Shutting off the 4 secondary cores would save A WHOLE LOT of battery.
[One (M9) General] Alton (Halo 2):
Yeah. I'm thinking that at this moment the other 4 cores are not needed. HTC said in the m9 announcement that the m8 will get sense 7. So I assume that the m9 won't have a problem running sense 7 on 4 cores.
[One (M9) General] .Ryker:
The possibilities that would open up having a 200gb microsd card....
[One (M9) General] geoff5093:
Are you talking about shutting off the lower speed cores? It sounds like those are there for better idle and light load battery usage.
[One (M9) General] joobie21:
Looking at this & everything you said was incorrect. Lol.
[One (M9) General] Jonny:
It's a 99% safe bet that you will be able to unlock the bootloader. I can't see HTC stopping that service.
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
i just hope! it would REALLY bother me if i cant. i would just stick to my M8 then.

IDK how the new CPU works. i thought that the primary cores were the 2GHz ones. and the secondary were the 1.5GHz one. the phone would always use the 2GHz until it needed more power, then turn on the 1.5GHz ones. idk.
[One (M9) General] Icyman:
I have a simple check list of requirements:

1. SD card slot, I need lots of space.

2. Front stereo speakers, I prefer not to use my hand to cup rear speakers so I can hear my videos.

3.1080p display, so my videos match pixel for pixel.

4. Front camera that's really great in low light.

5. OS & UI that is super intuitive so my wife won't nag my a$$.

What I don't care about is logos or black bars since function is what's most important & I'm covering it with a protective case.
[One (M9) General] fernando sor:
There are no 4k resolution screens yet on mobile devices. It would be a waste of time anyways in my opinion as you could not tell the difference in such a small screen.

The power consumption would be a huge issue.
[One (M9) General] Jonny:
I doubt any chip manufacturer would produce a chip with logic that bad - bad for battery life and not necessarily any better for performance as you would be adding 4 relatively low performance cores when under stress.

No, the low power ones are for general usage (and probably feature Qualcomm's hot plugging so that individual cores can be turned off, further reducing battery drain) then only when those 4 cores are under stress do the high power cores kick in.
[One (M9) General] dsymbol:
You can tell that the M9 is faster than the M8?
[One (M9) General] Quadrider10:
that makes more sense... idk, hotplug in the past has not been the best. on my M8, just scrolling the screen, a second or even a 3rd core always pops online.
[One (M9) General] PlatinumNick:
i really see no indication that battery life would be bad on this phone. it wasnt that bad on the m8 and they bumped up the battery on the m9.
[One (M9) General] th3:
It won't be bad.

It might be worse in certain scenarios, but that's the case many of the times with products.

Sometimes companies have to raise current or voltage for stability. Sometimes a unit in the BOM may not be the most efficient. Sometimes it is done for cost reasons.

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[One (M9) General] xxpmrong:
Agreed! from M7, I already went to Sony :S
[One (M9) General] zaaye:
Might be the most even handed review I've seen so far.

24 Hours with the HTC One M9: http://youtu.be/5uQzi3Inm2o
[One (M9) General] th3:
If you're looking at both phones side by side, that design does not look like an upgrade but like a downgrade.

Although I quite like the gold side trim.

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[One (M9) General] VeixES:
Any information about Dual-SIM variant ? Technically should be possible to have Dual-Standby, Dual-Receive/Send LTE with upto 150Mbps (reduced from 300Mbps)...
[One (M9) General] ThePhoneGeek:
So I've relaxed a bit in the last few days since the announcement. I will need to buy a new phone in the next few months because I am changing providers. At this point I am going to see if LG releases the G4 and see what that looks like. I also will see how HTC corrects some of the camera software issues that were referenced in several reviews.

Lastly if HTC continues past history and releases a DevEd that will help greatly because I prefer to buy non-carrier branded versions. I don't believe LG has a DevEd/Unlocked/Unbranded version they sell.

Ultimately it may be June before I upgrade and even then I will look for a used device at that point because there is always someone looking to sell a few months after buying. I wholeheartedly agree with the rant several pages back by [MENTION=2557864]Slicktune[/MENTION] though and really don't want to support HTCs mediocrity.
[One (M9) General] th3:
This phone isn't a top end enthusiast phone, like the M7 and M8. It's one notch below.

All the justifications can't change that.

This is an economic decision. HTC have tried to play it safe by releasing a cheap BOM and low R&D costing device. But that won't help them one bit for the financial year.

It helps HTC with the S6 faultering on the SD card, but it won't be enough.

If I was HTC, I'd release an enthusiast model upgrade to this M9 in 2-4 months.

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