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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] epic4grooted:
Why if the devices are the same except the boot loader why can't we flash the dev edition images to the retail and it work or vice versa
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] hsbadr:
I don't understand what you mean. Actually, all tars in this thread include the same stock images with just excluding bootladers for DevEd. For instance, Stock Restore = Full Firmware - Bootloaders !
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] epic4grooted:
Can we flash the developer edition images over the retail and have an unlocked bootloader

Sent from my SM-N910V

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Maybe I'm asking this in the wrong thread if so I apologize

Sent from my SM-N910V
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] hsbadr:
NO, you can't flash DevEd bootloaders b/c they're specific for each device & your locked bootloader won't even allow it. If you did it with any other method (not Odin), you'll most probably HARD BRICK your device.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] epic4grooted:
Gotcha thank you

Sent from my SM-N910V
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] thecarp1975:
Delete stock/Verizon apps?

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] ronschuck:
Jasmine Rom

hoping you can crack this note 4 and get that Jasmine Rom rocking it!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] anticloud:
samsung's take...

I got a case number this morning, all I have to do is call into their tech support line, speak to one of the reps, and send in the phone. They will reflash it for no charge. My conversation this AM was a lot easier then when I contacted them back in April; they were extremely cooperative, not blaming Verizon etc... and made no big deal out of it.

please note, I am holding off a day or so, till I hear back from one of the other developers in this forum, who "may" have a way out of this mess I got myself in to... If his method works, then no need to call in to the support. I will keep you guys informed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] hsbadr:
I contacted Samsung support a few weeks ago to convince them to push updates for the DE devices (b/c of the bootloader-related issues), but the reps were so dumb & didn't even understand the difference between the two (retail & developer) editions. I assume that you've somehow contacted Samsung developers; right?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Matttrix:
Didnt you all make a EFS Pro Backup.. while i didnt test mine. Isnt that suppose to recover the bootloader etc.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] anticloud:
yes

I have a complete EFS Pro backup, and not only that, radionerd / ryanbg cooked up a flashable aboot.tar.mbn which did work for me under NJ5 and BAOF no problem yet now, it's a SW REV CHECK FAIL: [aboot] Fused 2 > Binary 1[/B] etc... that's where we are at...

both radionerd / ryanbg are working on a mod - 1st attempt failed. but the error message is better... :) no software revision fail. just secure check fail.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] stueycaster:
I got mine from a guy here in these forums. When he first got it it had a corrupted rom. He sent it back and they sent it back to him a retail phone. He sent it back a second time and they did it right that time. Now it's mine and it's doing everything just right. So they can do it right but you still take the chance on them screwing it up.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] hsbadr:
Safe Upgrade to N910VVZW2BOF1

OP updated with Stock Restore tar & a Safe Upgrade to the latest Lollipop firmware (N910VVRU2BOF1) –for both Retail & Developer Editions– has been posted here.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] drewcam888:
Coming from stock OAF on retail, when I flash OF1 modem I get constatnt bootloops. Going back to OAF modem fixes issues. Suggestions?

Also the OAF stock restore says DevEd in title. Do we not have a stock restore of OAF for retail?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] hsbadr:
The new modem NON-HLOS doesn't work on previous versions. Follow this to safely upgrade to the latest firmware (N910VVZW2BOF1). Safe Upgrade allows you to downgrade to any previous version, whenever needed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] drewcam888:
Is there a stock restore to go back to OAF from OF1 for retail version?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] hsbadr:
For retail edition, it's safe to flash OAF full firmware: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934552515
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] nahoku:
Hello hsbadr,

I'm confused! In the Sticky thread " [Early Warning] DO NOT TAKE OTAs after upgrading to Lollipop" you state that OF1 is a trap. Since there's no explanation, I'm guessing that if you take the OF1 update, you won't be able to revert to KK? There are also some comments in the thread, and in the forum that some people who took the update can't revert?

However, in this thread, in fact right above me, it seems we can go from OF1 back to OAF.

If we can get back to OAF, then can we still get back to KK even if we take all recent updates (like OF1)? Is Samsung pushing some kind of security update that will block reversion back to KK?

Mahalo!

nahoku
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] hsbadr:
OF1 bootloader is incremented & so, you won't be able to downgrade the bootloader. Then, if root & WP bypass are achieved for KK, you may be able to go there keeping the undowngradable OF1 bootloader that will cause issues on KK. The best & SAFE way to upgrade is to follow the instructions here, which allows you to fully downgrade if you wish.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] nahoku:
Thank you!

Somehow I missed that SAFE thread you linked! Thanks for that!

I'm still on KK after reverting from OAF, thanks to this thread you created. I'm very happy on KK but was thinking that if LP becomes much better by 5.1.x, I might try it... but only if I can revert back and/or it doesn't prevent root one day.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] pospower:
i odined the full filmware on mu dev edition am i now screwed?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] manbat:
You now have a Retail Edition....only way back is if you backed up your aBoot and made it Odin flashable....some have had luck getting Samsung to do it for them.

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kernel-ed/ TWRP 2.8.7.0.trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] pospower:
so i should call samsung directly not verizonn correect whatt number shoould I call
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] jal3223:
If you have a Developer's edition with OF1 can you still downgrade to Kitkat being that the bootloader files are removed from DE tars?

The reason I ask is I was having trouble with my DE and sent it in multiple times (the screen was lifting) and they eventually said that they would send me a brand new device but it would take up to 4 weeks because they have to manufacture it. I'm pretty sure that it will come with the latest firmware. So will I be out of luck if I prefer Kitkat if that's the case?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] hsbadr:
Maybe, but you may end up with a bootloop or random issues on KK. The new bootloader will minimize LP issues, but may make it impossible to run KK unless you flash a custom KK kernel.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] jal3223:
That's a bummer. I requested that they put the KK bootloader on it but the rep told me that they can't make any promises. I guess we will see in a few weeks. Maybe I can take it to Best Buy and see if one of the Samsung reps can flash it for me if it does come with the new LP. Thank you for the reply.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] coolfx35:
Thanks. Exactly what I was looking for.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] hsbadr:
Safe Upgrade to N910VVZW2BOG5

OP updated & a Safe Upgrade to the latest Lollipop firmware (N910VVRU2BOG5) that patches Stagefright vulnerabilities –for both Retail & Developer Editions– has been posted here.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] FMXP:
Just to be absolutely sure:

On a Developer Edition Note 4, to make the phone stock but not increment or lock the bootloader, it's okay to use Stock Restore (NOT Full Firmware) 0G5 image? After doing this, I can then run the tool of my choice to root it and install custom recovery? Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] hsbadr:
Yes, check this for more details!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] howlinwolf111:
Developer Edition Note 4 -- downgrade to KK?

Hello folks,

History : I recently bought a DE Verizon Note 4, which shipped with the OAF

firmware. I did safe upgrades to OF1 and then to OG5, and installed

Jasmine ROM 3.1.1 (thanks hsbadr for the great work). I have played with

this ROM for several days, and find that LP (and/or the apps on LP) have

more memory leaks than I like. LP hanged when I installed adaway, and

also my alarms don't work.. Long story short, I am considering downgrading

to KK, which I found to be way more stable (on my Note 3 which I still use

until my Note 4 gets on its feet). I will be installing the Definitive ROM by

EMSpilot (NJ5 KK).

Some questions about this downgrade:

1) To install Definitive I think I need to be on NJ5 (KK). I am currently on OG5 (LP)

So I simply flash the “stock restore” ANJ5 from the link below I think? Which slot in ODIN?

(http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/development/firmware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937)

2) Then I have to install twrp and root the device, as per:

(http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/development/how-to-custom-recovery-root-t2923340)

3) After this, I install Definitive ROM for NJ5 as per:

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/development/definitive-root-deodex-knox-free-t2975372

Since my DE Note 4 was pre-installed with LP (OAF), I was not sure if a KK downgrade was still possible.. I have read the forums, and unless I missed something, a KK downgrade from a DE Note 4 which shipped with LP has not been explicitly discussed. Hence my questions..

Thanks for your suggestions folks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] stueycaster:
Before you give up on LP I'd suggest you give MoRom a try. I can't compare it to Jasmine but it runs great for me. I wish I could tell you if you can downgrade to NJ5 on a factory installed OAF phone. My phone came with NJ5 and has the NI1 bootloader. Actually I've never considered going back to KK. Somehow I've never had a problem with LP. I've always been surprised that so many people have issues with it. It's been stable for me.

I tried MultiSystem and decided I want no part of it. If there was a Linux rom to dual-boot with I'd give it another try. But I see no reason to use multiple Android roms. I stick with TW roms since I'm not willing to give up the S-pen. Besides I learned to dislike dual-booting on my computers. The benefits DO NOT outweigh the hassles.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE w/MoRom
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] FAUguy:
I used JasmineROM 3.1 for a little over a week, but was having a few issues with it, as it came already on the phone I purchased from Swappa. So I decided to do a clean install, but give MOROM a try first. It's very similar to Jasmine, in fact from what I can see, visually the differences are few, though not sure how much internally is different.

I am using it with the Multi System Kernel 5.0 and Synergy and it works really well together. I'm no longer experiencing the wake-up lag that I was getting, overheating, and can tweak the CPU and other items.

I've got quad shoot on my PC of XP, Vista, 7 and 10. Though 99% of the time I just use Win 7, I do have a few programs that will only run in XP or Vista, so that is why I keep those around. Even though Win 10 is visually nice, I'm just not sure yet how stable it will be.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] howlinwolf111:
Stueycaster and FAUguy,

Thanks for your tips. I really like Jasmine ROM and the responsiveness of hsbadr. I think my problems stem from LP,though. Having said that, it would be easy to check out MOROM as well, and I will likely follow that suggestion...

I would love to know if my DE note 4 (which shipped with LP OAF) can be downgraded to KK NJ5. If this is possible, I will also try out Definitive, and pick the most stable option..

I don't mind spending some time upfront, but once I stick with a rom, I generally don't upgrade till the phone dies :). My main criteria are stability and customizability..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Jaytronics:
I was under the impression that the Dev edition has an unlocked bootloader. But from what I have read here and other places, if one was to upgrade to a new bootloader, you could not go back to an older one?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] stueycaster:
Never update the bootloader of a Developer Edition phone. Use the Safe Upgrade, follow the instructions and leave the bootloader alone.

I have upgraded to every new firmware to come out. But I still have the ANI1 Bootloader.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE w/MoRom
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] extensive:
I have the retail edition. Is there a method to just upgrade or will this method wipe everything out?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] krish225:
Little Help appreciated.

Hi, Im on retail version (n910v) ota updated to bog5.

I know there is nothing we can do to root and other things.

But Im stuck in boot loop at optimizing apps (without completing optimizing it restarts continuously), I flashed complete N910VVRU2BOG5_N910VVZW2BOG5_N910VVRU2BOG5_HOME.tar but no luck getting pass through android upgrading. (cleared cache and data wiped in recovery but no luck there too)

What more I need to do to pass android upgrading screen?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] zapata13:
Need 4 Files Repair N910VVRU2BOG5

BL,AP,CP,CSC

Problem bootloop
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Dwillian:
Safe Upgrade to BOK3?

I just received a system update message indicating that software update N910VVRU2BOK3 is now available for my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4. So now I'm wondering if there will be a safe upgrade path to this latest software update? Or, should I give up on a possible root for this device and take the OTA update?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] jayochs:
OP is actually looking into making us a safe upgrade from what I last heard.

Sent from my Note 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] hsbadr:
For now, you may test the new 5.1.1 modem and/or kernel from OP!

Thanks to [MENTION=2697144]donisvelt[/MENTION] for providing the OTA update.zip!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] jayochs:
nice, thanks for your hard work! I'll wait a bit for the safe upgrade and just do em all together ? I'm hearing 5.1.1 is nice and smooth.. some people are saying there's no recent apps lag anymore.. which would be amazing!

Sent from my Note 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Arcolog2:
Woohoo! I like updates, just for the sake of flashing stuff. I miss the old days with the OG Droid flashing stuff daily.

Thanks hsbadr for keeping me awake with android.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] jcip17:
hsbadr thank you for the developement and support for our Verizon Note 4 Retail and Dev Edition. I really appreciate everything you did and do for us.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] FMXP:
Yes, thanks very much for being the last and only dev who still supports the Verizon Note 4 DE.

For those of us who prefer to keep our DEs on stock Touchwiz, will there be a safe upgrade released for 0K3? Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] FAUguy:
With Jasmin 3.1 installed for months now, I flashed the new BOK3 modem baseband without any issue. Is the BOK3 Kernel that you have posted a Multisyatem (Synapse) version that would also work with Jasmine 3.1 5.0.1, or would need to clean flash Jasmine 4.0? I may hold off flashing 4.0 due to those data issues that 2 people have posted about.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] bearofbabe:
when will we have full firmware BOK3?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] EdrickMG:
Yeah I'm in another country so I'm waiting for the full firmware also
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] will4958:
Pretty sure I already know the answer to this, but the firmware files listed in the OP are safe rollback files, correct? I'm currently performing a new backup of my phone before trying out the most recent Lollipop ROM that's listed, and just wanted to be sure. Sorry sounding like a noob.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] buhohitr:
They are factory stock rom, not roll back rom. If you want roll back rom look for title "Safe upgrade to Lollipop" and rom build version.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] hsbadr:
OTA Update [LMY47X.N910VVRU2BPA1]

OTA UPDATES ARE FOR RETAIL EDITION ONLY​

If you own the retail edition of Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (SM-N910V) and are on the official stock LP 5.0.1 firmware (LRX22C.N910VVRU2BOG5), you can upgrade to the latest LP 5.1.1 firmware (LMY47X.N910VVRU2BPA1) by flashing the following update.zip in recovery:

Note that you won't be able to downgrade to KK for temp root! This is NOT a Safe Upgrade. Safe Upgrades require the official firmware in Odin tar format to be released. None of the 5.1.1 firmware updates for this device has been released (on SamMobile or Kies) yet, for unknown reason(s). The firmware updates for other devices are always released within a week or so, after the OTA update.

Thanks to: [MENTION=2697144]donisvelt[/MENTION] for capturing the OTA!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] anrichardson:
When booting into recovery with the PA1 OTA update it says "installing update" every time. Is that significant?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] hsbadr:
Are you on N910VVRU2BOG5? This is an OTA from N910VVRU2BOG5 ro N910VVRU2BPA1.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] anrichardson:
I am on BPA1 now and was on BOG5.

But when you are on BPA1 and boot into recovery it says that every time. Wasn't sure if it is another security measure for the bootloader. I will try and see if I can post a picture.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] hsbadr:
Try to wipe cache in recovery!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] anrichardson:
I did a factory reset when installing BPA1 and did it just after you asked and it still does it. After it says that it goes to next screen and says "no command" then enters recovery.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] EdrickMG:
Is there any way I could jump from BOK3 to BPA1 because is giving error help!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] anrichardson:
I do know you can flash BOG5 Official Firmware in odin coming from BOK3 then apply the BPA1 OTA. That's exactly what I did.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] hsbadr:
This OTA was captured on N910VVZW2BOG5. You need an OTA captured on N910VVZW2BOK3 or try to flash N910VVZW2BOG5 full firmware via Odin and start from it. I'm not sure if Samsung has blocked N910VVZW2BOG5 or not, though. Odin will return a failure error if it's blocked.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] EdrickMG:
I'll back up everything and give it a shot thanks bro

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Ok understood thanks!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] anrichardson:
You are able to flash official BOG5 firmware in Odin coming from BPA1 as well if anybody needs to know.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] EdrickMG:
Yes with no problems i was able to downgrade from BOK3 to BOG5 so if someone its already in BOG5 could update to 5.1.1 BOK3 with no troubles at all Verizon didn´t patch that specific downgrade i would give a shot if im able to downgrade from BPA1 to BOG5
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] anrichardson:
Ok, I was on BOG5 and to the OTA not the update.zip and that could be why every time i booted into recovery it was "installing system update", it some how didn't install all the way? I don't know.

So, I reflashed BOG5 official firmware in Odin and the applied the update.zip and no longer get "installing system update" entering into recovery. Hope that helps somebody.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] EdrickMG:
Okay just for the record and forum i was able to downgrade my bootloader from BPA1 to OG5 so its secure....moving thourgh those bootloaders, if in the future there is an exploit from OG5 regardless if they took OTA its posible to go back
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] anrichardson:
I was able to go back to BOG5 from the newest BPA1
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] hsbadr:
That's great! You can roll back to LP 5.0.1 (OG5). However, you won't be able to go back to KK 4.4.4 for root, if you upgraded via OTA from a Safe (downgradeable) OG5 upgrade. As you mentioned, you now wait for an exploit on LP 5.0.1+.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Dwillian:
I'm on the safe upgrade to BOG5 and I also get the "installing update" every time I boot into recovery. Not sure if this indicates a problem or not. So far I've just ignored the message.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] anrichardson:
What I ended up doing was flashing official BOG5 firmware( not safe upgrade) in Odin and then applied the update.zip file provided in OP and no longer get "installing system update" entering recovery.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] buhohitr:
Hi all, I am still on 4.4, I have tried OG5 and its the worst. Can someone give some feedback between 4.4 and PA1? I know once I move to PA1, there is no going back to 4.4. Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] anrichardson:
BPA1 is better then BOG5, especially the most recent apps, no lag at all.

I personally gave up on safe upgrade to go BPA1 from 4.4.4.

But you can flash back down to BOG5 with official firmware ( not safe upgrade) from BPA1 if you decide you don't like it.

I have noticed phone getting a little warm when using it. Not sure if it is Auto Brightness cause it does seem to be pretty bright when enabled. I don't have it enabled at the moment to test my theory. Because when in sleep mode it cools off. Either the brightness of the screen is causing the heat or something in the background. But not when in sleep mode.

Hope this helps.

Also I don't think there is any lag with factory reset. I think the second 5.1.1 update is better then the first update(BOK3)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] anrichardson:
Is it possible to get BOG5 bootloader? Wondering if installing with BPA1 firmware would have any chance to fix auto brightness like with early 5.0.1 firmware?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] EdrickMG:
Ain't expert but yes you can flash only bootloader from the main threat, and... Unfortunately I don't think it will fix your issue because bootloader has to do more with recovery and nothing with Rom problems as far as I know but... Repeat I ain't no expert maybe it has to do and I'm wrong but... In my knowledge modem it's if you have reception problems, kernel regarding performance, and full Rom it's the one that handles.. Those specific issues
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Trak-X:
Any idea if safe upgrade from OG5 to PA1 will happen?

I dont really want to update and loose the ability to go back if needed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] anrichardson:
For those that are on BOG5 firmware, is your battery ok? Cause BPA1 sucks far as battery is concerned. The firmware is very snappy and smooth, no hickups, but battery will take a beating.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] FMXP:
Will there ever be a safe upgrade for DE people who are staying on stock TW? I'm still on 5.0.1 waiting for safe upgrade to 5.1.1.

If you are not planning on releasing a safe upgrade to 5.1.1 for DE or there are technical issues which make it impossible, please let us know. I'll just move over to Kyubi Note 5 port since that's also stock TW just without Verizon customizations.