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[G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pleomaxell:
I think the question was how to backup the modem and other network related files before flashing lollipop or any other ROM?

So is there a way to backup the modem and other network related files? :)
[G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] defyyourlife007:
The file non-hlos.bin should be the radio/modem firmware image. if he has the stock firmware it should be in there if not he can always download it from here http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=36 getting the 4.4.4 firmware from his respective region, that way if anything goes wrong he would have the original modem file.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Deca4:
I searched the 2013 Nexus 7 threads to see if anyone started a thread with their feedback on Lollipop on a stock device like previous updates and did not find any. I received the OTA notification for Lollipop but it went away after 8 hours. I have my stock 7 setup exactly I want it. I have setup certain ways like streaming movies from my computer to my multiple emails and much more custom configurations but with a bone stock 7, not even rooted which is why I was hesitant to do the update.

I'd like to hear your feedback on Lollipop. Is it faster/smoother? Does all your apps work. Do you like it better than Kitkat? etc.

Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] davew:
I had the same thing - the notification for the OTA popped up late at night on the 17th and I didn't have time to deal with it. In the morning, I tried to start the download but nothing happened and the notification disappeared and wouldn't come back.

Anyway in my impatience I flashed the LXR21P factory image and, after a few hours playing with it, I wish I hadn't. Kitkat was way smoother, animations, scrolling, gaming performance, everything basically. Lollipop really feels like a huge step backwards to me.

As for my apps, mostly everything survived the restore from Titanium Backup with one exception - Weather Now by Hamsterbeat seems to keep thinking its not licensed. Games were a different story unfortunately - out of the 10 or so games I had installed, five of them no longer work (Conduit HD, Deus Ex: The Fall, Call of Duty Strike Team, Modern Combat 4 and N.O.V.A. 3). The ones that do work don't run nearly as well as they used to, even Modern Combat 3 which used to run glassy smooth is now lagging. Modern Combat 5 lags so bad in the campaign when you scope in its pretty much unplayable.

There are a few things I don't much like about Lollipop but I'll get used to them. The performance right now is godawful though and I'm probably going to restore a Kitkat backup in a week or so.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Deca4:
Much Thanks on your detailed experience the Lollipop. So far it sound this discouraging.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] davew:
I didn't notice it earlier but there's actually a sticky thread up top, don't know if you've read it. Lots of people complaining about poor gaming performance.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] idCyber:
not all apps work and some don't work as expected. I like the new interface, but for now I stick with KitKat as App World is not yet ready for Lollipop ( I play tons of 3D games and not all of them work and those that work, they are slow as hell).
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] madbat99:
App developers have to update their apps to run properly on 5.0. They should have already, but many have not. More are being updated every day. The system is smooth as silk. Major step forward for android in becoming a fully mature operating system. Many new features the more you look.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] andyskelly:
I like it. Think it's quick and more responsive. But as already mentioned not all apps work with it yet. Titanium backup has had an update so works very well for me.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] adellon92:
The battery life improved alot for me
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] jhom52:
I like it. Did a clean install with NRT. Unloaded all the junk in the previous system. My Nexus 7 is running fine. I does everything I want without problems. I am enjoying Material Design. I would like to see more apps adapting MD. Now I only wish Samsung and Verizon get off their asses and get Lollipop to my S4.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Si73:
So far I like Lollipop although i'm really missing xposed and certain modules that i used on 4.4.4. I haven't tried any graphically intense games yet but it seems to be running really smooth with no lag. Not sure whether it's my imagination but performance wise it feels smoother and faster than 4.4.4 but unsure whether battery life is as good. Also miss mx player but hopefully that will be updated soon.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] madbat99:
I contacted MX player. They sent me to their website where they have a test build up that has been updated to work on 5.0.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Dime-Baggins:
I updated to L and now Dungeon Keeper runs like crap. I also have a Nexus 9 with L and it doesn't have a problem. Weird...
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] nitrous²:
Something's definitely weird here. For me, Lollipop is kinda sluggish compared to KK, yet some report Lollipop would be much smoother compared to KK.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] aterryx:
My OTA went away also. After a couple days I got pissed and sideloaded the OTA. Everything is much smoother it seems. Haven't run into any app issues at all yet. Hopefully it stays bug free. I'm liking it so far.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] thevuman:
I like it. Much smoother and touchscreen is a lot better now. But I've noticed battery life has sucked. Getting like 5 hours screen on time. Not as good as kit Kat.

Also, the brightness is all weird. Its only ever bright when I'm halfway on brightness. Anything lower is too dark.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] krispy1:
For brightness its probably the adaptive display- go to display settings and turn it off.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] dequelo:
It runs smooth for me, except when running games like MInecraft, Dead Trigger 2. Even Wheel of Fortune is laggy at some points. Hopefully the hardware isn't becoming outdated this soon. Maybe these laggy games will be fixed in future updates.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Claghorn:
I have to say I despise the vast amount of changes to move settings, launcher, etc. to white background with black text. It makes my eyes hurt. I wish I could get back black background and white text on most of the common screens I have to use all the time.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] itsdacj:
Battery life sucks for me. 2h24mins screen on and at 54%.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] madbat99:
You've had the screen on for 2.5 hours straight and you have 54% battery, and you think that sucks? That means you would get over 5 hours of constant screen on time. How much did you get before?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Traxex_:
I'm getting about 10-12 hours sot with Kitkat and ElementalX Kernel, so this seems really bad...

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 7 mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] pewpewbangbang:
Stock lollipop kinda laggy for anyone?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
I like it but I can't believe google hasn't killed off launcher 2 yet. It looks like crap with all the material design apps and isn't even a part of aosp anymore. They should at least be using launcher 3
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] andyskelly:
Seems quick to me.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
Yeah I'm not noticing any issues. At first maybe but as the apps I use on a regular basis get updated, the performance issues are going away. Still feels like the same tablet overall which isn't a bad thing.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] itsdacj:
I just got the nexus 7 but if I'm honest I'd expect it to be better on battery life on the OnePlus One which is significantly more powerful therefore using more power. I'm not saying its terrible, maybe I'm just used to my old iPad Mini's crazy levels of stamina.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Botsok:
Lollipop 5.0? Meh...I'll wait for Marmalade 6.0.:p
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] JustZaphod:
I played with Lollipop for about a week, then decided it wasn't time.. So I restored my Carbon 4.4.4 Rom, with Xposed Modules.. I absolutely hate the single middle pull down window.. other than that.. It was ok.. Ill wait for someone to pull out a decent custom rom with Xposed Modules.. Until then.. I'm sticking with 4.4.4
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] supersaayuj:
For me... Battery life was reduced a lot on Lollipop! Charging time was increased but discharging time decreased... like WTH?

Also RAM usage is waaay to high!

System Apps - 700mb

User apps- 200mb

Though Performance, Smoothness, Touch Response was improved a lot MAN! Feeling like using a iOS Device :p
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] madbat99:
In android, unused ram is wasted ram. In the old days of gingerbread even ice cream sandwich, ram was an issue. Now it doesn't matter how much ram is used. When the system needs it, it will free it up. Keeping amounts of apps in ram makes them open much faster. Read up on it, you will be surprised to find the old thinking no longer applies.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] supersaayuj:
Yo!! Thanks for Info!! Searched in google about this issue..and what I found most is this line.. "unused ram is wasted ram" in Linux World.

So I guess its not a big problem.. until system starts to act laggy! :D
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] madbat99:
Yeah if system lags what's the point right? But I've been finding that opening apps right from the recent panel opens them so quick. Ram management has gotten incredible in android. The system quickly frees up what it needs.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Masteryates:
I loaded a developer preview on my Mothers Nexus 7 a few months ago and it was excellent. Keyboard looked different but worked as KK. Battery life was KK + 30% at least. :victory:

When I loaded the OTA a few days ago. All that was good is now rubbish. Can see myself either loading up that developer preview or back to KK. :crying:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ming3r:
Only real concern: Notifications bar is tiny when you up the DPI scaling, and no dark theme. Saw a dark theme for the N5 but not ours yet.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mindmajick:
Flashed the system image from Google's website.

Works flawlessly. No battery drain for me. No issues. Just really fast and clean.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Landshark928:
Lollipop doesn't really do anything major for me, but it did render my Dish Anywhere app useless .... which is the main reason i bought the N7.

thinking of downgrading to KK if i can figure out how .....
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mindmajick:
Easy peasy. Either flash the stock kit Kat Rom from the development section or flash the ruu for 4.4.4 from pc.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Landshark928:
i sideloaded, not rooted. i can just sideload 4.4.4 the same way? i figured it was more involved to go backwards ....
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] madbat99:
Hey bro, I emailed dish and asked them if they were going to update their app. They said they would have it updated before the end of the month. It was a big problem for me too. You can still use the dish anywhere website, but its a bit buggy. I can't wait until they update the app.

Also new factory images up. 5.0.1. No more YouTube issues. No video issues at all. It seems they fixed most of the bugs and started rolling out the update again.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] sale 83:
Everything that I use works ok on 5.0.1, except one app-Dolphin is laggy, and flash doesn't work, but they are working on it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] foxymyeung:
Overall pretty happy with the upgrade to lollipop 5.0.1

Everything runs smooth and it looks a lot better.

hopefully app devs catch up with adjustments to their apps for lollipop
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] pewpewbangbang:
Anyone with super slow wi-fi speeds on 5.0.1?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] madbat99:
Great speed here
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] pewpewbangbang:
Maybe I'll just factory reset and then install 5.0.1 instead of OTA.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] dacomboman:
I find getting to "airplane mode" much harder than 4.4

Also, dislike having to wait for the "x" on an open app to close it instead of simply swiping it away.

Otherwise, seems to be quite stable.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] madbat99:
I can swipe them away. You should be able to.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] dacomboman:
You're right Madbat99, i just discovered that placing finger within open app is the new way to swipe away.

Before, we would swipe it away from the outside. Minor adjustment hé!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] devilnat:
For me it seems KK combo with elementalx has a better battery life than LP but I will try another new LP rom until Im satisfied :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] boomslang06:
i dont like the way lollipop UI looks, probably gonna go with a custom rom in the near future, i like my android UI dark and chocolaty :D
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] electrotune1200:
Love the 5.0.1 update. Gave the device a factory reset and everything feels really smooth.

Now for the problem.

Is anyone able to create a static ip with DNS servers, and able to save those settings.

Filling in the info correctly, but the save option remains greyed out.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] power_excell:
Sound is awful after 5.0.1

after My Nexus 7 2013 Wifi got the upgrade to 5.0.1 my sound is all scratchy and horrible sounding. Anyone else have this issue? It was perfectly fine just before the upgrade because I was listening to music, then the upgrade got pushed to my device and I decided to to the upgrade then I went back to listening to music and it just sounds terrible.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] 95Z28:
Overall i I'm OK with Lollipop, personally preferred KK on my 7. My biggest complaint is WiFi performance seems to have issue's with consistency, since updating more often than not I'm better off using my phone, which I leave on LTE at all times (unlimited, unthrottled, data).

2nd complaint is opening the status bar and toggle screen seems more cumbersome, not really sure how to explain that one.

I find overall performance and battery life to remain about the same, currently at about 2 days since charging, little over 2½ hours SOT with 64% left.

I do like Lollipop on my phone, the N5, but on the 7 it feels more like a side-grade with a couple minor complaints based on personal preference. I actually didn't get the 5.0 update (stock, non-rooted) but instead got the 5.0.1 update from 4.4.4 about a week ago.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] sale 83:
If you have any doubts in how Nexus 7 works with Lollipop watch this video...

Nexus 7 vs Nexus 9 - Dogfight: http://youtu.be/zSGANZH10u0

Just as good as new Nexus 9, even if it's older and weaker then the new one.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] pbassjunk:
Anyone else have regular (but inconsistent.. can't pinpoint when/where it happens) occurrences of screen rotation no longer working? Never saw this under KK, but seems to happen at least every other day w/ L.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] madbat99:
Status bar and notifications is easy, one finger pull down for notifications, two finger pull down for toggles/settings. I love it. No more worrying left or right. Just one or two fingers.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] pewpewbangbang:
Yup, Wi-Fi performance is certainly a toss up. Also updating apps in play store is super slow due to Wi-Fi, only way to fix is to do speedtest or stream video or something at same time to bump up Wi-Fi speed.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] madbat99:
App updates are slower probably due to ART runtime. Apps are compiled for your chipset when they installed, aot (ahead of time) compiler. As opposed to dalvik, which is jit (just in time) compiler where apps are compiled when you launch them. Huge step forward.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] UnratedBozz:
So far it's running pretty smooth no problem. Does everything that I want it to do almost flawlessly. It seems like almost everything improved or I could just be exaggerating. But other then that running 5.0.1 buttery smooth. Still missing the modules though. :D
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] yomen:
After one day I like lollipop, nexus is fast, there is no battery drain when screen off (my main KK problem). The only complain I have is lack of compatibility with some apps, loke xposed, ivona tts or gmd gestures. I know it's ART issue, but still frustrating.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] crobjam:
Glad to see I'm not the only one. I was beginning to think this was in my head.

Why does the developer preview have better battery stats than Lollipop?

See what I did there? :highfive:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Jubomime:
Super hate the notification pull down. Dumb. Might look better on a phone, but not with the 7. Also super hate the new keyboard ui. Had to reinstall SwiftKey. Love the performance.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] hija31:
You can change the UI:

Settings>Language & input>Google Keyboard Settings>Appearance & layouts> Theme
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] openwheelracing:
I super love Lollipop on 2013 N7
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DaWeav:
My biggest problem is google provides no backwards compatibility if they change an API to do things differently. Example, all media control apps like Tasker and Media Utilities no longer work at all in Lollipop. Now I have to wait for developers to make there apps compliant with the new API, if at all possible, just to get my previous day to day experience working again. Just causes me a lot of frustration.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] openwheelracing:
After many years of using Android. We should all know by now not to rely on developers catching up with Google updates. If you depend on small apps in the Nexus World then you are playing the game wrong. You are better off with iOS or even TouchWiz.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] iClaude:
I think that Lollipop works fine and it's reasonably smooth.

However there are too many animations, and I don't like the new material design very much.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Masteryates:
Yes, I had to install Swiftkey as the Lollipop keyboard sucks. Swiftkey isnt as good as the KK google keyboard though. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Driftbum:
I'm having the same issues, I'm using the same apps i always used in KK and screen rotation will stop working?

If i reboot it will work,but after a few hours it stops again.

I even posted in the Q&A forum but no one aswered: http://xdaforums.com/nexus-7-2013/nexus-7-2013-qa/nova-launcher-stop-screen-rotation-t2970070
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] idCyber:
I have the same problem on KK and Lollipop. Indeed only a reboot fixes it. Its clearly not a hardware issue if its fixed with a reboot
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Landshark928:
i'm glad i got to try it on my N7 first, because now i know its not worth unrooting my Note 3 for.

not crazy about the notification bar, everything else is just "meh".
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] idCyber:
I went back to KK. On LP, tons of popular 3D games , even if I OC, work like I have a 1 GHz Single Core CPU, 512 MB of RAM and a slow GPU. LP is not for me at this point.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] peeam:
After about a month of using LP, there are certain issues which may force me to go back to KK.

- the commonly reported screen locking into portrait mode which takes many reboots to solve

- the footprint of LP is much bigger than LP. I do not have the numbers but on my nook 7, 16 GB(2013), I no longer have enough room to load books and music which was fine on KK. Maybe I should have done a clean reinstall rather than OTA update.

- I am not sure of any performance improvement as I still have to use All in One app to kill apps in the background to free up memory

My 2c.

PeeAm
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] kindofabuzz:
You don't need that. It will free up memory when it needs it. You're not on Windows.

http://www.howtogeek.com/127388/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-use-a-task-killer-on-android/
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] cunhab52@gmail.com:
Anyone else find that Lollypop has turned their beautiful N7 into a paperweight?

My N7 automatically uploaded Lollypop about 4 weeks ago. Immediately started having lots of issues (2012 N 7). Unit is unbelievably slow. Facebook just closes randomly, apps take forever to load and I am constantly getting error messages that the page or app I am on is not responding.

Have posted these issues on the Google N7 forum (a lot more complaints on that site than here). They say Google is aware of the issues with N7 2012, but all the suggestions they are giving are not fixing the issues. Only thing they now recommend is a total factory wipe and restart. I have all my data backed up, but really hate the thought that I have to reload my apps and reconfigure my table.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] noahvt:
Everything is fast and speedy but every single browser i use crashes at some point, browsing a heavy website causes a force close on chrome, firefox and the stock browser it kinda sucks
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] kindofabuzz:
5.02 is out for the grouper. Supposedly works great now.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] skallal:
Please don't mention 5.0.2, at least not for awhile.[emoji15] Based on this thread, I went from 5.0.1 back to 4.4.4, and it wasn't easy.

There are a few things I like about Lollipop, but overall I don't see any advantage, at least not so far. I did find LP faster than KK, but that could be due to ART vs Dalvik. So I switched to ART when returning to KK. My real gripe with LP was the battery drain. It is awful. And I don't like the pull down menu. It takes two swipes just to see the battery level. I do prefer the recent apps menu on LP over KK. But overall I couldn't handle the battery life or lack thereof.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] madbat99:
Battery life is incredible on mine. There are HUGE advantages when it comes to security and multi tasking. The pull down only takes 1 swipe, you do it with 1 finger for notification, 2 fingers for everything else including quick settings. I think you needed to give it a little more time to get used to the system. I personally could never go back. But it is a preference. To each his own.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] skallal:
I wonder how you applied the update? I was lazy and did NOT do a clean wipe. Could a clean wipe and app restore affect battery life?

Otherwise, what else would cause battery life to be so different?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] yosmokinman:
Seems most people *****ing about problems took the ota or upgraded in a way that kept data.

With a major release you're asking for problems unless you install fresh via the factory image.

Battery life is awesome, performance is awesome, no force closes. It's the best version of android to date.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] skallal:
What about a doing a clean wipe when updating, but then restoring all my apps with data from Titanium Backup? Is that keeping data?

I am willing to give LP another try. But I'd want restore all my apps with data.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] madbat99:
That's keeping data. Clean is clean. I just had to log back in to a bunch of apps. Are you using an outdated root tweak or something? My battery is amazing. Overnight it drops maybe 2%. I only rooted for adblocking but it blocks the pictures in eBay so I'm probably going to unroot. No need for it for me. Titanium is only use full if flashing a new ROM, not reinstalling apps and data after an update. Get a battery monitor and see what's eating it. Guarantee its an app.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] skallal:
I have NOT yet updated to LP with a clean install. I never said a clean install drained my battery, because I haven't tried it yet. My previous post was describing a possible choose of action. Sorry if I wasn't clear before.

I am asking if it is okay to restore my apps and data with Titanium after a clean OS update. If you don't recommend restoring apps with data, what about restoring apps without data?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] yosmokinman:
You can restore whatever you wan't, if it ****s up uninstall.

Edit: better yet set the system up and make a nandroid. If you dont want to permanently flash twrp just: fastboot boot twrpname.img and make the backup.

Restoring games with TB went fine for me, other than that I'd say it's better to install from the play store and setup again.