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[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks

Sorry for asking a dumb question, but how do you enable legacy stats
[Android Apps and Games] bege10:
In which version will this be implemented? (Re-freeze apps after update) It is not in 2.2.4i from April 10th.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Install 3C Legacy Stats and grant it either root or BATTERY_STATS PERMISSION (using adb pm grant... command).

It is in latest update, or maybe in beta 2.2.5 published yesterday.

Either way you will have to freeze the desired apps from within the toolbox as it have to keep track of those internally, the OS is not providing this information upon installing or updating an app.

That said how do you update an app that is frozen? Play Store or Amazon store do not list any frozen apps.
[Android Apps and Games] bege10:
I do freeze those apps from within the toolbox.

I use F-Droid and Aurora Store. Both list and update frozen apps.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
I will give it a shot, however I'm pretty sure it's no actually possible to do what you expect from such use case. It's likely the updating is done before unfreezing those apps and there is no app-update event going on for those, hence the toolbox will not be aware of an update having been installed.
[Android Apps and Games] bege10:
The apps were frozen from within the toolbox before the update and are unfrozen afterwards. After the update 3C Toolbox updates the backup and restores the events. If the toolbox remembers which apps have been frozen it could re-freeze the apps after restoring the events. I understand that the toolbox cannot react respectively if the apps have been frozen or unfrozen in other ways outside the toolbox.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Further testing shows that the mechanism is working well and is actually unneeded. It's those apps you're using that are re-enabling the updated apps, after updating them.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Indeed, that's what happens. The toolbox restore events (including frozen app) upon receiving an app updated event. In your use case it's clear the apps you're using are doing that.

I tried updating a frozen (with toolbox) app and it re-froze perfectly. However, I also try freezing apps outside of toolbox (state not restored) and frozen apps remained frozen after update.
[Android Apps and Games] bege10:
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean with "Further testing shows that the mechanism is working well and is actually unneeded". Which mechanism is working and unneeded? If the stores re-enable the apps (possible necessary to update them) the toolbox could re-freeze them when restoring the events. Is that right?
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Said another way, the mechanism of restoring the frozen state is working as expected, when an app is updated, if it was frozen with the toolbox, it will be frozen again.

However it's unneeded because updating an app doesn't unfreeze it. It's the app you're using which are unfreezing the updated apps, but only after updating them.
[Android Apps and Games] 白い熊:
[MENTION=253258]3c[/MENTION] I have two questions regarding the latest beta, if I may:

— What is the usability of the bundle indication? I mean when I see this app is a bundle, is it purely stating the fact, or can I do something that I couldn't with a regular app?

— What are the new GPU notifications called exactly — I'm not noticing anything new in the list, but there's many of them…
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Bundle indicator is just stating the fact. It is purely there to inform user that a backup cannot be restored manually and will need a specific process, which the app implement automatically. You can also filter by bundle so you can backup all bundles. A user requested that feature, I suppose to be able to backup them and pack them for distribution?

GPU notifications are called 'Lollipop GPU ...', I will also add LCD GPU notifications today, and maybe other.
[Android Apps and Games] 白い熊:
I have just discovered the following bug:

— turn multi select on

— search for some name

— select two apps and uninstall them

— switch to backups tab

— filter for some other name

— select an app and hit restore

It will then restore three apps — the two that you've uninstalled and the third one that you selected for restore.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
In these steps I don't see you turning on multi-select in backup tab. I'd bet you turned it on before, selected 2 apps, went into apps list to do things, and back into backups tab selected an app (multi-select still on) before hitting restore.

FWIW, selection list is not shared between backups and apps tabs, so this use-case is simply impossible. Same for multi-select, enabled per tab.

I could deactivate multi-select on both tabs when user moves away from them.
[Android Apps and Games] bege10:
I still don't understand why the toolbox does not re-freeze the app when it restores the events here.

1. The patched Play Store from Nanolx repository in F-Droid is frozen from within the toolbox

2. F-Droid updates it.

3. (You say) F-Droid unfreezes it.

4. Now the toolbox updates the backup

5. Now he toolbox says it has restored the events - why not re-freezes the app?

Edit: The Play Store is installed as system app. Does that make a difference?
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
because it doesn't happen in that order, 3 actually happens after 5.
[Android Apps and Games] Tomspector:
With the pro key ver. I can not get on boot completed to load. I have to go into 3 toolbox and load the profile manually.

Is there a fix or work around for this.

Moto g7 pro rooted with magisk
[Android Apps and Games] 白い熊:
Is it possible for you to specify that just internal storage would be used for these tmp files access and not the SD? Or is this managed by the system itself?
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
You can probably find a solution here: https://3c71.com/optim
[Android Apps and Games] Tomspector:
Thank you that fixed it.
[Android Apps and Games] deitrich:
[MENTION=253258]3c[/MENTION] I sincerely feel sorry for you. You're doing a good job, and they're still throwing logs at your feet. Write me, please, which subscription to choose to help you and at the same time to get a fully functional app?
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Don't be sorry for the logs story. I was probably venting my frustration and fears around creating this 3C Companion app. I intend to use it for app data backup on non-rooted devices and yet again it's scaring me to publish an update with access to that. So I make a first tiny step towards that goal to see how app reviews go for small apps like 3C Legacy Battery Stats.

There's no subscriptions in-app at the moment, you can get the unlock key instead. As it's been requested a few times, I'm already looking into this, should be available soon.
[Android Apps and Games] deitrich:
Key from you, or maybe I buy pro version? This pay from GP is directly for you?
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
GP takes 30%.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
@3C

Sorry, this is a bit OT- is there a way to find out the physical age of the battery (how old is it) without opening the device to see the number printed on it and find out the date of production?
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Depends on kernel battery drivers. Everything that is available is usually in this directory: /sys/class/power_supply/battery/ (requires root since a couple of Android versions).

I don't remember seeing such information unfortunately, and the printed number could be unreliable.

Battery are supposedly aging with charge cycles or if unused for long period of time. Check calibration tab can shed some light on this. Also recording some charge and discharge cycles could hint on battery aging and quality, if they are any abnormal drops or jumps.

A few examples: A year old Pixel 3XL show about 10% missing battery capacity. A brand new battery (bought on AliExpress with a production year of 2019) in a Nexus 6P reports 101% battery capacity while the old battery was missing 40% battery after 3 years. I have many more, but in short, battery capacity should reflect battery aging.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks for your time and help
[Android Apps and Games] deitrich:
[MENTION=253258]3c[/MENTION] how I can backup my copy data create yesterday? I create copy all app and restore phone to factory. Right now I can't restore backup. Folder backup in SD card.

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[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
What do you mean you can't restore backup? Can you be a little more explicit?

What did you do to copy all your data yesterday? Did you actually backup all your apps? Is your device rooted?

What did you do to try to restore your backup? What was your expected results? What results did you obtain?
[Android Apps and Games] deitrich:
[MENTION=253258]3c[/MENTION] Okay, excuse my amateurism.the system has root. I made a copy on the sd card. Then I wanted to restore it by entering the app->manage->Import backup. Unfortunately I get the information, file doesn't contain a backup. I'm probably doing something wrong.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Import backup is only good for Titanium backups or shared backups (zipped).

What did you copy on the sd card in the first place?

Did you do a backup from app->manage->backup first?
[Android Apps and Games] deitrich:
[MENTION=253258]3c[/MENTION] Applications in copy, are *.zip I thought it would be easiest to copy the backup folder to internal memory, replacing the original one. And yes! We did it. The program has recognized all the applications and lets you restore them. Back to the topic of the pro key: can you give me a way to transfer these funds directly to you?

Edit: Or maybe not, because I don't see history in applications that should contain it.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
You can use PayPal, PM me if interested.
[Android Apps and Games] deitrich:
Okay. I used a donation from your profile. I hope it worked.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Worked well, sent you back a gift by PM ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Lughnasadh:
[MENTION=253258]3c[/MENTION] After yesterday's update to 2.2.6a I noticed using the widget set to Reboot Full Choices no longer works. Pressing on it says "App not installed". I tried to reinstall it without any luck. It seems other widgets still work but not the Reboot Full Choices. Any thoughts?

Pro Version 1.0b
[Android Apps and Games] vishalssalwan:
I dont know if that is true, cos each time facebook and messenger are running and draining battery, so is LinkedIn and other applications. Will try to give some more time on this, but can you confirm about the backup functionality, cos that is definitely not working as it says "Operation Failed for - XXXXX Failed to backup XXXXX". I am frustrated with this thing not working as i am not able to take backup of any of my applications...:(
[Android Apps and Games] *.jpg:
I can confirm that the backup function appears to be working, but when I needed to restore my backup to a new ROM, there were no actual files to restore. Which begs the question--what is it actually doing for those minutes at a time when it says it's backing up the files?

I've submitted a comment via the app's reporting tool for this issue.
[Android Apps and Games] prboy1969:
Hello. Just noticed that the Apps been updated on Google Play to v1.2.8. But not on Amazon :( . Amazon is still showing v1.2.6.
[Android Apps and Games] vishalssalwan:
In my case, it says backup operation failed, yet makes a folder in the backup directory of 3c toolbox, which contains only a text file, nothing more... confusing!!!
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
The default backup is located under /sdcard/Android/data/ccc71.at/backups, however you mentioned you moved it to your external SD, right? Is the SD protected or you removed it? Did you select a folder under /Android/data or at the root of the SD card? It's possible the wipe (even not full) erased the content of that folder as it can be considered a system file. Uninstalling the app might also do that.

FWIW, the app checks the backup APK and ZIP to make sure they match the original, so a success message means the APK and its data are definitely backed-up. Else there is something else going on that would require further testing, maybe reproducing the issue and checking everything every step of the way.

Yes, I'm just making sure all problems are resolved before publishing on Amazon, should be there very soon. Publishing takes time so I always wait to see if there's anything to fix before publishing everywhere, else I have to repeat the 4 updates (free/paid) each time. You should get v1.2.8.1 on Amazon pretty soon actually.

If a backup is successful it would put a copy of the APK and create one or more ZIP files. So yes it's failed, however you don't provide any information, such as logs or anything relevant to your problem, so there's very little I can do to help or figure out what went wrong, even less considering backup works for all users and I'm using it frequently to share my game's progress with my kids. For all I know you could be running XPrivacy or similar tools preventing shell access or a million other things that could be misconfigured or messed up on your device or there could even be an issue installing app binary or etc... So please read post #2 for reporting your issue using a support request from app settings help and support.
[Android Apps and Games] prboy1969:
Kool :cool:

But I really like the App. So I just deleted the Amazon version. Then purchased it again on Google Play. I use many of the available options in the app. It's easily worth the cost. Plus it's a small price to pay for what you get :cool:
[Android Apps and Games] leonardoroza:
100% agreed
[Android Apps and Games] kronos19:
:good:
[Android Apps and Games] John_Edward:
Could you somehow add some sanity checking to the battery mA stats, more specifically, the graphs ?

I have the Samsung S4 Mini, and as it doesn't have a current sensor, it's set to estimate the drain.

Now, sometimes, mostly combined with heavy usage, reboots etc, the voltage drop confuses the estimated and results in some ridiculous drain values.

This royally messes up the graphs, and yes, I know I can toggle the global scaling, but sometimes that doesn't help if the spike was recent enough or if there were two too close together.

Maybe add some averaging/smoothing, just ignore way too big spikes or add some maximum limit or something.

Because lets be honest, I don't think my battery can deliver 134 Ampere spikes, no matter how brief they were.
[Android Apps and Games] lepa71:
Capacity error

I have an S3 with zerolemon 7000 mAh and get capacity error. Has anybody seen this?

Thakns
[Android Apps and Games] prboy1969:
Have you calibrated the app to the battery yet ?

You can do it with the button that says " Manage " .
[Android Apps and Games] :
[MENTION=253258]3c[/MENTION] I'm using pro version purchased from amazon app store. Amazon version is still not updated to latest one that present on playstore.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Version 1.3.1 has been published on Play Store and Amazon at the same time. Each stores may have different distribution delays, which I'm not aware of. Play Store is usually within a couple of hours.
[Android Apps and Games] :
[MENTION=253258]3c[/MENTION] Update arrived on my device today morning.

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] lepa71:
I have done it. btw it's not all the time. zerolemon battery is much bigger than standard one.

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] prboy1969:
Yes. I know ;) . I have one in my S3. I could not replicate the issue. Have you tried wiping Caches in Recovery ?
[Android Apps and Games] SupErWinBros:
cool

nice:)
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Capacity errors are often caused by misconfiguration of your charger as explained in online help (accessible tapping the ? icon on the top-right).
[Android Apps and Games] lepa71:
I will try. What is your setup for charger? How much usage do you get?

@3c

I don't have original charger so I sometimes use my wife's LG G2 charger or I have a wall outlet with 2x build-in USB 3.6A.

I will try to change AC output power to 1800 mA(is set to 1000 mA by default) and see if it works.

The concern was as it does not happen all the time. May be every other or 3rd time.

Another thing. I bought this battery from a friend and it seems holding charge fine. I just want to know if the battery is alright or not and that this capacity error is just informational.

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] prboy1969:
Well the device is no longer activated. I just use it as a monitor. Plus I also flash different Roms, and Mods. Just to try them. As I still take car off three S3 devices, for family. That being said. I can easily go three days without charging the battery. Even with all the flashing, and rebooting.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
What do you mean reinstall? The unlock key or the main APK? Have you tried adding the shortcut again? Are you adding a shortcut or a toggle which you configure as a shortcut to that feature?

I tested a minute ago, adding the widget shortcut and it worked.
[Android Apps and Games] Lughnasadh:
I meant re-adding the widget shortcut. Sorry for the confusion. Screenshot below. None of the reboot choices seem to work as a widget shortcut. They've been working for years for me but after yesterday's update it stopped working.

EDIT: Actually the auto reboot works, just not the full or simple reboot choices (App not installed message). But since you have those working I guess it's on my end. Not sure what it could be because I haven't changed anything that I can remember and it appears to have started after the latest 3c update.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Have you tried from the app's menu? Tested, again on Android 4.2, 7.1, 9.0 and 10.0, worked perfectly.

Are you rooted? What Android version? Does the app have proper root access? are you using xposed with privacy module? Magisk with security modules?
[Android Apps and Games] Lughnasadh:
It does appear to work from the app's menu. I'm on Pixel 2 XL stock, 10.0, Magisk stable 20.4, no xposed or other security modules.

Since it works from the app's menu maybe it's launcher related (Lawnchair) although haven't changed anything with that either. I'll keep playing around with it. Thanks for the help :good:
[Android Apps and Games] bege10:
After update to v2.2.5d the toolbox does not start after boot. No widget update, no charging popup, no automatic updates. Everything worked with 2.2.5b but after restoring to that version the problem remains. I have to start the toolbox manually, then everything works as expected.

No changes in related settings and permissions.

What may be the cause, how to fix this?
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
This description seems like it's unrelated to the app update, but rather some settings in some apps or in the OS preventing app from starting.

Please try updating to beta 2.2.6b and send a support request post-boot if issue persists. Note: apps are only starting when device is unlocked and keyguard is dismissed and start order is undefined.
[Android Apps and Games] lucfig:
Hi,

I'm getting to know the crystalize feature. Really interesting.

How does it work? You have a service running that kills the apps? How does it compare to Greenify?

Best regards,

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[Android Apps and Games] canka591:
Hi [MENTION=253258]3c[/MENTION] I am using the latest version (beta 2.2.6e) of your application with pro key and I'm using Note 8 (Android 9.0) HadesRom v12 + Phantom Kernel v2.11.

Recently, the CPU has started to show high frequencies constantly on the home screen, working properly before 2 updates (appears in the photo and no background apps running) and the gpu temperature indicator is not working properly. Gpu temperature indicator shows gpu usage (appears in the photo)
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
GPU temperature is not available on every device. If you want support for your device, please send a support request.
[Android Apps and Games] canka591:
How can i send support request ?

Do you have any telegram group ?
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
From app settings, help and support. Everything is explained in post #2. I need some information about your device to start digging (with your help) and add gpu temp support. It's not easy, much like mA a few years ago.
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
Depends if you have xposed or not. If you have xposed, app auto-terminate themselves, no need for a service. Without xposed, a service is monitoring apps activities and killing when needed.
[Android Apps and Games] lucfig:
Thanks.

I don't have Xposed as it breaks my banking app. Only have Magisk.

So I think I should crystalize the minimum as possible, right? Only apps that cause battery drain. Else the service itself and apps trying to restart can cause more drain. Am I correct?

Another question if you don't mind. Actually, a feature request. I already use Tasker to trigger a "kill all" command from 3c using shortcut. Is it possible to add a shortcut to backup specific apps?

I want to get rid of WhatsApp built in backup and set 3c to run when I need with Tasker.

Best regards,

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[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
You should crystalize too many bad/system apps that the OS let restart after it's crystallized. This concerns mostly Google or manufacturer system apps. As for apps you installed, you can list as many as you want.

I did tests in the past with about 100+ crystalized apps, system and non-system alike, and overall it was ok, didn't notice any difference.

This reminds me that greenify mentions not applying it to too many apps, like 10 or so. Is that still true?

Why not use the app's scheduler to perform regular backups of the apps you want? You can tag them, and perform a backup update on those tagged apps. Backup update only updates what's needed, APK if updated or only data if there's a change.
[Android Apps and Games] lucfig:
Great, nice to know that. I noticed an app that restarts itself even being crystilized. I disabled some of its receivers and now it is gone. Your app is truly the swiss army for Android.

I'm not sure. I don't use it for a long time. Will search a bit.

I want to backup only when the device is charging and connected to WiFi. My whatsapp database is huge and uses so much battery when performing and uploading to Gdrive.

Since I have Tasker running all the time already, I want everything to be compatible with it. :p

Tasker was the first app I purchased for Android, back in 2011. Titanium backup was the second. These are the 2 apps I always have with me since 2011. And I'm almost ditching Titanium 100% for your app. Really amazing app, congratulations.

Get yous in 2017 btw.
[Android Apps and Games] canka591:
[MENTION=253258]3c[/MENTION] you are amazing. Thanks for super fast supporting. Galaxy Note 8 :o
[Android Apps and Games] bege10:
I could solve this issue by toggling the battery optimization setting and repeat the update. Looks like there went something wrong with the update process.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
@3C

Looking for a way to collect resource usage (processor, at least) for running apps over time using this app. Is it possible on a rooted device? I don't think it would be on unrooted device

Using 3C Legacy stats, I can see the time in % app active, but not the CPU used %

It's not a feature request, just curious
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
You can use 3C Task Recorder, whether rooted or not, it can collect CPU, memory and network usage. It creates a CSV file that you can easily use from a PC.

If non rooted, you will need 3C Companion PC app to enable memory usage and improved CPU usage collection.
[Android Apps and Games] beeshyams:
Thanks for a prompt reply--I knew your app had to have it, I wasn't looking at right place!

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@3C

I don't see the link for companion app in Play Store, India?
[Android Apps and Games] 3c:
It's in the description of all my apps that can use it. It says "3C Companion app available here", hence tapping the 'here' word will open this link: http://3c71.com/3cc