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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fingerstoo:
This is not simple. The QuickGPS patch should be applied before you flash to Newplow, because it does TWO things...

1.... it updates the GPS firmware/chip (not the main system ROM) to change the speed of the ports, swop the hardware and software COM ports over (COM4 and COM8) and ensure that the GPS accesses the new file with ephemeris data that downloads from the internet

2.... installs the program QuickGPS which is the program that runs on startup (if you wish) or under your own controla to go to an internet site that sends a small file conataining the ephemeris data to you N560 over theinternet connection.

Newplows ROM only has incorporated the item 2 above, the QuickGPS program. So you still should apply the patch BEFORE flashing the WM5 ROM with WM6.0. Use the 038 version on his Guest page. Do not use the WM6.1 as he is not planning to sort out the 2 bugs which for me make it useless (I did try it). The WM6.0 is fine but I think it has a small memory leak problem. I have posted a couple of comments on Newplow's site as I have been monitoring it today. It is still worth flashing the ROM! The memory leakage is minor but without further investigation I cannot rule out something else running which is causing it. But from my experience it looks like the operating system or more likely MS ActiveSync!

Hope this helps?

Oh and IslandXP, I think the same problem on switching/standby applies to ordinary SD cards too. I have had identical experience, it is NOT just SDHC drivers/cards. I have had lockups on TT6 and Memory Map if you switch off or use suspend/standby on both N560 and other PDAs with only SD cards. Having investigated TomTom behaviour (it applied to TT3, TT5 and now TT6)it writes to the SD quite regularly and it you switch on/off or use standby/suspend while it is running, it leaves the application and writing to SD in a strange state and often locks the device. So both the SD and SDHC suffer the same problem. Therefore I just never switch off or go into any standby mode when running GPS proggies. I do switch off the screen to save battery, but not in the car where it is on supply anyway.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] islandxp:
I have not noticed myself the freezing of programs after suspending, but in the FS Forum someone complained about this. I'm most often closing a running program when suspending or turning off the PDA.

As I was not sure myself, I made a series of tests using an old 4GB SD card and an 8GB SDHC card, both with the same Nav. proggies on the standard WM5 Eng version. Between the changes the N560 was completely reset to remove the SCHC driver, then using the appropriate Spb Backups.

I‘m using these four GPS based programs:

Destinator 6 (a street navigation program similar to TomTom, Navigon & comp)

MagicMap (a nav. prog. for rastered topographical charts)

Navi2 (Vito) (a chartless nav. prog, plots the track)

SmartMap (Vito) (a raster charts based prog, for creation and use of own charts)

On the Standard 4GB SD all programs continue to run after suspending the PDA for some minutes.

Using the 8GB SDHC and driver the first two proggies freeze after suspending, while the last two work fine even after suspending.

Interesting the details on updating the GPS chip itself, I was unaware of this.

I did the patch (on WM5) but did not notice any change of ports or baud rate. I’m still using Port 8 at 9600 Bd. as GPS Port for all programs? Works fine?

To Fingerstoo: In the Newlow38 ... Is there a way to use the buttons to access the backlight control - as in the original WM5? Thanks...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] -SKYLINE-:
Ohhhh crap. I didn't update before flashing to Newplow... any suggestions? should I flash back to WM5 update the firmware then flash again to WM6?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] islandxp:
Thanks fingerstoo for shedding light into the dark area of GPS communications with programs.

I have never used more than 1 proggie at the time, but will experiment soon.

You wrote

My querrie is not the access of the Loox Lights but of the BACKLIGHT.

At WM5 times I assigned a button for the quick backlight control in order to adjust depending on the brightness of the ambient light (Daylight or in the middle of the night)

In the Settings Screen >> Buttons >> Program Buttons: scrolling the selection of addressable programs I'm missing the backlight program?

Is that somewhere hidden or moved?

Thanks again
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fingerstoo:
Sorry, misunderstood your query ... silly me .... thought you meant the backlight behind the buttons!

Strange cos it's still there for me. I notice that you have to have two taps on the scroll arrow on the right for all the programs to appear. Little MS bug, I bet. First tap only gives a small number of progs but second go gives all my installed and most ROM programs. But I cannot ever remember being able to go direct to the screen brightness "slider" program. But hey, there is a better way that I discovered. If you press and hold the Today button (bottom right) and then simultaneously press multiple times the left of right joypad buttons the screen brightness goes up and down one notch at a time respectively. I discovered this while playing months ago, but it is even described in the FSC manual! (So I discovered a week ago.) The really good thing is that it works when any program is running, including games that hog the screen. Also if you hold the Today button and simultaneously press the action button once the today tab drops down and a second press takes you to the screen alignment program (odd!). That is NOT in the manual.

The Screen off program is still available on button settings, called Screen Toggle. It is there in WM6.0 from Newplow.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] islandxp:
Thanks fingerstoo,

using it now, is just as you described it.

The only difference is that on my WM5 I had the buttons set to bring me to the backlight slider by pressing and holding button 1 (left upper button)

So firstly I associated button 1 to “Today” and tried to use the left/right key to change the backlight. Won’t work that way. “Today” has to be button 4 - then it works fine. It’s a really good thing, thanks again.

I’m very happy with Newplow cal. 38. Have installed many proggies, not (yet?) had a single problem.

Have a very short wishlist:

Would be nice to split the gained memory space and add some 15MB to extend the program section, and reduce storage accordingly. Ideally this should have an handle and be settable before flashing the ROM. My program space is often on the low side - while my storage section is almost untouched. May be different with others...

And yes, the transcriber works as in the English WM5 Version. Would be nice to have the transcriber from the GER version included instead. Here both German and English text will be recognized (Im writing a lot in German)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hendrixus:
I see Newplow has an update out 038 (7/16) changes are here Download too.Lets flash!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fingerstoo:
The transcriber app is available as a cab

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=313081

If you follow back to the source, you may be able to find a German version? I'll leave that to your good self.

I have unmapped the Today screen from that Button (i.e. NONE), so I don't accidentally get the Today Screen when I am trying to change the screen brightness.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] -SKYLINE-:
HELP! My N560 was being flashed and it got stuck.... the progress bar is not moving. This isn't my first time flashing my device, but it is my first time "downgrading" it back to WM5 (i forgot where i got the file). It's stuck at around 25%. I haven't removed my device or stopped the flashtool. what should I do?? HELP!

(i'm using another computer to type this as my desktop is offline without firewall connected to my N560)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] islandxp:
Hello SKYLine

I' m sorry that I cannot help you directly, but the original WM5 ENG Rom has the name: OS_213U.nbf 35841KB.

Did you tried to flash this?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] -SKYLINE-:
my n560 is alive!! well the Flashtool detected a problem and basically told me to do a Cold Reset (Power + Reset). That reverted to my fully intact ROM. However when I pulled my N560 out of the cradle for the reset, my desktop computer crashed witha BSOD. Trying my luck again, I attempted flashing with the original WM5 ROM (35841KB) and stuck at the same point again.

Interestingly, I tried another WM5 (N560.5.1.478.AKU.3.5.2.XPR) and it got stuck as well, but at a different point in the downloading to device progress.

Finally I tried the last WM5 I could find n560.Alex_DFR_.AKU.3.5.2, and successfully updated it to WM5 (so I can install the QuickGPS firmware).

However... I then tried to upgrade to Newplow 038 with SDHC + SQL.... and again it got stuck.

I managed to successfully flash to 035 (which I was previously using). I'm going to give 038 SDHC (no SQL) a go now, i'll update a bit later.

However, from this dramatic experience I learned that my N560 will be alright if the progress for downloading to device gets stuck.. but why this happens is still a mystery.

Update 1: 038 SDHC (no SQL) didn't work either... going to try updating through my laptop now

Update 2: FINALLY, the source of the problem was my desktop computer. It is due for formatting so probably some underlying system problem was present, which caused the BSOD. Well... in that case... this is just an isolated problem which most likely won't happen to anyone else. :D

YAY Newplow 038 SDHC SQL!!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fingerstoo:
I had the same problem as you. BSOD.... worked out that it was not doing a hard reset on the N560 just prior to the flash. Each time I do a hard reset BSOD does not appear. I think it is to do with not enough main memory for the ROM image and the flashing program to coexist?

For me SQL is a bit of a balck hole! I am on 038 release but not the latest with SQL. In practical terms what does this allow you to do, please?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] -SKYLINE-:
I have absolutely no idea! I have a little program that required me to install another SQL program prior to running it, but the program would crash when I exit it. I thought 038 SQL would solve the problem, but nope, still have the strange error. So in terms of practicality, I don't see any difference.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] matchbox21:
I just updated my N560 to Newplow's WM6.1 (018) with FSC GPS Instant Fix, everything looks fine except that the GPS can not find any satellite no matter using FC GPS locator or TomTom6 (quickGPS is already updated to the latest information). Why?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] matchbox21:
and when I try to update the GPA firmware on my n560 I get the Message "Failed to update GPS firmware (3)"

I can not understand newplow's explanation http://newplow.euro.ru/60_faqs.htm#FSC_GPS_Instant_Fix (i already read in english with google translation)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fingerstoo:
You need to install the GPSQuick GPS patch from the "FSC downloads" site

http://www.fujitsu-siemens.co.uk/support/downloads.html.

The QuickGPS software built in to the ROM is not the only thing you need. The FSC download automatically updates the GPS chip firmware in your N560 as well as installing the little program QuickGPS (which Newplow has built in to the main ROM image). This is why your GPS is not working, methinks? The firmware change reverses the COM4 and COM8 functions and sets the hardware port COM4 to run at 57600 baud. Try GPS Locator once you have applied the patch?

And you have updated your main ROM to one in which there is a serious bug - if you want to use emails with your N560 you will not be able to creat or read emails. A bit of a disadvantage! Newplow admits the bug in his pages on his site. I tried it and now have burned the WM6.0 release 038 instead with SDHC, QuickGPS and LooxLight etc built in. This works fine.

If you are having trouble with English translations of Newplow's site then bookmark or make a favourite of the following, and navigate from there!

http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=...ad.htm&usg=ALkJrhhAn1xYGXJjQ2QVy10qouNSlD50rQ
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] JUB1L:
I need to run this patch but it is for WM5. I updated my PDA to WM6 before I came across Newplow's ROM Backup so have no copy of the original ROM. Do you know where I can obtain a reliable copy of WM6 to do a temp. downgrade so that I can run this patch? I assume that it will fail or cause problems if I try to run it under WM5.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fingerstoo:
You say the patch is for WM5, but have you actually tried to install it under WM6.0? Worth a try?

I have sent you a PM on the WM5 reversion....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] JUB1L:
Thanks for your help. I shall try to run it under WM6 and let you know if it works.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Bruno_rv:
Hello to all. Ima new in this section i just wanted to ask something.

Which is the best rom for loox n560?

I have one rom inside the pda,got it allready installed, wm6 ,and i have some problems with downloading through wifi internet connection. Its very very slow. A frend with n95 8gb downloads things much much faster through the same wifi connection. Can u suggest me which is the best rom? also the gps is not working good. Sometimes when i use it,it dowsn work good,looses signal,or doesnt show me true speed etc etc.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fingerstoo:
Precisely which WM6.0 ROM do you have already? It may be the best!

The speed of the Wifi connection depends how good the signal is. The N560 does not have a very powerful transmitter for WiFi and if the link is weak the transmission times are longer as it keeps sending packets that fail. You should set the WiFi so that does NOT use powersave mode. Go to Settings/WLAN Power and tick "Disable" Power save mode. That way the N560 will use more battery or mains power but give a stronger transmitted signal. The overall WiFi speed should improve.

The GPS on N560s seems to be good on some and not so good on others. I am one of the lucky ones and the GPS is very sensitive indeed. It will even get a lock inside my house, but near a window. You should try the QuickGPS patch which is on the download section of the Fujitsu Siemens web-site. I am sure that you can find it. It will not improve sensitivity, but it should reduce the time to first fix. It modifes your GPS chip firmware, changes the COMs ports over and makes the hardware run at 57600 baud. But the QuickGPS program which is installed as part of the patch, collects up to 3 days worth of satellite ephemeris data and the N560 then uses this data to find the satellites more quickly at startup of any GPS app.

Hope this helps?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] -SKYLINE-:
To answer you question... in my opinion, the best rom right now is Newplow's WM6.0 version 038.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fingerstoo:
I agree, that's the one I am on! It's absolutely fine.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Bartimaus:
Hello,

i am using Newplows WM6.0-038.

Everything is running well, except Navigation. R66 is extremely slow, maybe 1 or 2 Pics/sec and iGO8 (all versions) beginns to stutter after a while, (the map disappears after 20-30mins). Under WM5 I set the FileSysCache fix to 128k with SKTools, and iGO8 runs like hell, but WM6 seems to ignore these settings.

Do you have any experiences with these programs ? Free ProgramMemory after Softreset is 32MB

Regards

B.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mystery1166:
Hello,

no one happened that all files on the sd card disappeared?

It' s a problem with the wm6 encription.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dideldum:
I found an advice, how to change the page pool size in the ROM (you have to do it in the ROM file before flashing it!). As I had a backup of my WM5 I looked at it and found just 2MB. In Newplows WM6.0 I see 8MB. I changed that to 4MB and to 2MB.

With 4MB WM6.0 is (felt) as fast as with 8MB, but iGO8 has more memory and will run smoother. Nevertheless I still have out-of-memory with TTS voices.

With 2MB WM6.0 is notably slower (even reacting on taps on menus and icons - it takes now up to 1 second until I see a reaction!). BUT: No out-of-memory and stuttering with iGO8 anymore (but calculating routes is slower now and reacting on taps can take more than a second!).

The difference of the page pool size is directly visible in the free memory after a soft reset: 32MB with 8MB page pool size and 38MB(!!!) with 2MB page pool size (Newplow WM6.0 38g).

Maybe you want to give it a try...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fingerstoo:
If you are using WM6.1 ROM from Newplow, the Encryption does the opposite of what you expect. If you uncheck the box for it, it has the effect of losing the SD files! Leave it checked and Encryption will not be enabled!

It seems that this a bug that came from MS code itself! Steer clear of Encryption. I have lost the link, but MS even wrote a paper about the facility and described it as something like "experimental", as they wanted to test the business community's reaction to the facility. Great!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Bartimaus:
How did you manage this ?

Maybe this simple trick (in sys.txt) has the same effect: ???

[debug]

reserve_memory=2097152
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dideldum:
Have a look here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=PagePool. I just did the same with the N560-ROM.

No, this is not the same. The page pool size is reserved by Windows Mobile at startup, so depending on it you have your 32 (with 8MB page-pool-size), 36 (with 4MB) or 38 (with 2MB) in WM6.0 38g. The reserve_memory is the memory, which IGO leaves to the system, but this applies to the free memory, not the page pool size. So from your 32/36/38MB iGO leaves 2MB. I have the same sys.txt entry and it helps, but reducing the page pool size helps more (for TTS and 3D with more details). But remember: WM6 with only 2MB page pool size will be as slow as WM5 before (more or less, this is my personal impression)!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Eenigmaa:
Does anybody know if there is a way to boot N560 using SD card? I think I killed my FS with some "rom killer" and all I get now is FS boot screen, no other activities.

Any way to start it from SD card and flash it from there?:(

:confused::confused::confused:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] islandxp:
Hello Eenigmaa,

I'm sorry but I don' think that there is a way to boot the N560 from the SD card. When booting, the hardware switch will turn on (initialize) the processor, long before the SD card will become accessible.

More than 2 years ago I had a similar experience: While (hard) resetting the N560, I must have done something wrong. After that the booting failed, the system froze with the picture of the two mountaineers. I could not get out of that condition. No matter how I restarted it, took out the battery and hard reseted it several times. No change.

The 560 was only 3 month old and under warranty, so I was not worried and was ready to send it in.

As everything seemed to be lost anyhow, I played with all sorts of key combination while booting. And I think it was when I pressed the switch with the stylus many times during booting while still having some? keys pressed that suddenly instead of the mountaineers a picture of two dolphins came up. From then on everything was back to normal, the ROM was still ok.

The next time I saw the two dolphins again was when flashing the Newplow 038. I think when the dolphins come up you are in a very early initialization stage, maybe comparable to the BIOS on a PC.

Sorry that I cannot give a more specific advice, good luck...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] -SKYLINE-:
I cannot be 100% sure, but if you can get to the dolphins screen, it should be able to copy your intact ROM onto your system...

find the dolphins, save the pda
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Pibbs:
hi all,

anyone has a N560 BACKUP for WM5 (create with rom tool of newplow) in english?

Thank you
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] oNNoZeLe:
check the 4pda.ru site, i think they have it..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Eenigmaa:
Thanks to you all

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2689619#post2689619

I found the sollution.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ady_uaic:
hy, where can i download that rom from? does work the gps fine? can you please give me the steps for upgrading? i have n560 with wm5.1 integrated (can i backup my rom, or where can i find an original wwe rom, in case that i cannot upgrade).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Eenigmaa:
A tool called rom backup - check newplow archive! Mr Google should help!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ady_uaic:
ok. and a wwe rom 6.1? where can i find it? a cooked one i preferred.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] oNNoZeLe:
You're not even trying..

:mad:

Use the search, use google.. try..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fingerstoo:
I agree with oNNoZeLe. You are definitely NOT trying!

Newplow also has a WM6.1 ROM with added extras. Unfortunately it has a bug, which he admits, in that you cannot create or read downloaded emails with the in-built Messaging application! His solution is for you to install other email commercial software and has suggestions as to his favourites. I trust his judgement.

He is working on solving the bugs and improvements in WM6.1. He keeps giving hints in his Guestbook pages that a new improved release of WM6.1 is imminent. I did try the existing WM6.1 release and liked it. I reverted to his WM6.0 038 release and it works fine, after I discovered the bug in WM6.1. The differences between WM6.0 and WM6.1 are marginal on a PDA like the Loox. There may be benefits for WM smartphones though. I personally wouldn't bother with WM6.1 unless the ROM has lots of extra goodies. For me, having SDHC built in to the ROM is one of them, and Newplow's WM6.0 has it!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ady_uaic:
that's your opinion that i'm not googlin' after it. i've tried, but, i've found in different languages (the sites) and asked me (i suposed) for logging in...ok..i will try harder..thx all ;). I tried to search N560.WM6.031g but only 2 links appear, from xda, but without a rom link to download it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] oNNoZeLe:
Well not to judge you in any way, but this thread already has a lot of info..

My first search on googlë:

http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&q=n560+wm6.1+newplow&meta=

gave me 594 hits.

But as fingerstoo described, there are bugs.. Me also tried the 6.1.. Seemed a tiny bit faster but not more then that and ofcourse the e-mail bug..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ady_uaic:
i've searched for the one from your signature :).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] oNNoZeLe:
Headsup:

2 sites to keep your eye on:

http://fsc.newplowe.com/

And check frequently because he's not a big announcer.. Usually the download is available in the guestbook and not published in his download page.. Use the googletranslate to understand his language.

http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=74762&st=1080

This is one of the sites where it al started..

Has some tools and utils and some addressed issues like rom language..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ady_uaic:
ok. thx a lot.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ady_uaic:
i've tried to make an account on pda4.ru but without success...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fingerstoo:
Try

http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=...ad.htm&usg=ALkJrhhXeMt8bXog0oXktnLotUM_UNpc1A
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ady_uaic:
thx a lot for the install instructions.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] oNNoZeLe:
i did it with the google translate.. translating 1 sentence at a time..

and it worked for me.. you should try..