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[Nexus 5 General] usmandiaye:
Me too I stayed on kitkat (4.4.2) because the rom I am using has not been updated to 4.4.4, it Elix-R. Even the dev has released a beta version of this rom on lollipop which I tried, I do still prefer kitkat. I have tried many other lollipop roms, but I still find Elix-R 4.4.2 better.
[Nexus 5 General] tweaked:
I don't buy Nexus devices so I can stay behind. Lillipop is amazing. KK is out for me.

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Reflash. Don't let google restore your backed up settings.

Fixed. Maybe. lol:silly: Well it worked for a bunch of ppl.
[Nexus 5 General] ghettopops:
To each his own. I am running 9.1 and loving it.
[Nexus 5 General] Tagtag123:
Moved to Nexus experience R5.3, but missing some greate apps and of course the awesomeness of mahdi rom. I hope he cooks a lollipop version soon.

PS: a tiny but of tweaks and i get better battery life than on kk.
[Nexus 5 General] Cloonix:
I'm considering to stay on KK until a stable CM12. My battery with CM11 and custom kernel was so awesome (2-4 days)... On Lollipop I do 2 days max.
[Nexus 5 General] rtimoff:
OP is the one of this guys, who stuck on iOS 6 when there is iOS 8. He's choice.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Well that's a dumb comment. For your information, my iPhone is updated to the latest version which is 8.1. As far as KK/Lollipop is concerned- my Nexus 5 is bulletproof on KK. I've been reading about a ton of bugs and quirks with 5.0, so why would I update and potentially deal with issues when my Nexus 5 is already perfect the way it is? Seems like a step back to me. Sorry, but I don't have to have the latest and greatest software just for the sake of having the latest and greatest software. I find something that works and stick with it.
[Nexus 5 General] aletto:
I really dislike the flashy and gaudy look of Material Design, some of it (think of notifications and quick settings) are a mess. I prefer the more modest and subdued look of Holo. So I'll wait for a bit, I guess. Also, xposed.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
I'm with you, I'm a big fan of Holo. I actually really liked the JB Holo look with all the blue. I was disappointed when KK came along and they turned it all white.
[Nexus 5 General] rocksyjj:
I flashed lollipo tested a few days back onto kitkat i will wait a month or so when all faults are ironed out .. oh and when an all black edition pops ups been on the dark side to long white menus and all dont do it for me
[Nexus 5 General] hormosapiens:
I went back on stock 4.4.4 with xposed. I absolutely need to swap recent with back key (navigation bar) as my right thumb is not Sergey Bubka. I had horrible battery life on stock 5 because misc was killing it as soon as wifi was turned on. omg toggles..... who can live with that configuration that Google offers on stock? where do you guys go to turn on/off sync? In settings? This is becoming a joke like I used to mock iphone users for going into settings to turn on/off things like wifi.

Until xposed or custom roms based on 5 no lollipop for me.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Yep, Xposed is far more important to me than having the most up to date OS.
[Nexus 5 General] jayRokk:
The same was said for a few when KK came out.

To each his own but I think its too early to decide to chose between L and KK.

I think once things are stable and custom Roms and mods come to L, more people will jump the ship. I can totally understand why anyone would hold and still run KK. I just fell in love with the smoothness of L and can't look back.
[Nexus 5 General] zachberger:
If Google continued to patch the 4.x series for security issues then I'd consider staying on it. I'd take security over "convenience" or however you justify no upgrading any day.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
I just flashed the N5X 5.0 ROM (AOSP lollipop) via multiROM to play around with. There are a ton of things I really like about it, but I still don't think it's worth it to me to switch to Lollipop for my main OS. It's certainly smooth, and the animations are awesome, but KK is pretty damn smooth as well plus I can use Xposed with it and that to me is the deciding factor. I'm sure once Xposed is working for Lollipop (if it ever does) I'll make the jump but I don't see myself updating before it becomes available.
[Nexus 5 General] jayRokk:
All I really rely on is Tasker.

I don't use xposed at all.

Yes both are smooth but I been spoiled by the animations a bit too much Lol.

I'm staying with lollipop.
[Nexus 5 General] topgeardave:
Yep, not having a silent mode like Kk is a deal breaker for me. Also not all of my apps are updated for L yet :(
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Yeah, that's another reason why I'm not updating. That seems like a slipup on Google's part to me, I doubt it's intentional. Hopefully they fix that in the next update. I wish they would implement a scheduled DND mode like iOS has. I never have to worry about turning my iPhone on silent at night, and my alarm still goes off every morning.
[Nexus 5 General] anshumangoyal:
I am still a die hard fan of Kit-Kat. I have Lollipop and thus have not shifted to the same. Actually I am fan of custom roms on Kit Kat. They have matured a lot in past times and provide me full functionality with excellent root permissions.

So, I am the one who will stick to Kit Kat as of now, till there is no custom ROM for Lollipop.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
I don't do custom ROMs anymore. All my phones are stock + Xposed. I used to flash new ROMs almost daily but it got old for me. I just want everything to work, where I don't have to constantly tinker with my phone. Any feature I want to add can be done with Xposed, which is IMO the single greatest mod ever made for Android.
[Nexus 5 General] Red_Vex:
Gravity Box and Xposed keep me on KK.

Plus 5.0 have some bugged things and things that i don't like...maybe if a 5.0.1 comes out i can think of upgrade.
[Nexus 5 General] anshumangoyal:
That's true what you said. But for Lollipop there is no Xposed. So do you think you will be ever upgrade to Lolipop..
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
If Xposed never works for Lollipop then probably not until I get a new phone that ships with it.
[Nexus 5 General] AndrasLOHF:
There isn't anything functionality wise in Kitkat that could possibly make me stand looking at Holo any longer. Yes there are themes to somewhat remedy this but I much prefer Lollipop.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
I like Holo, though I preferred the Jelly Bean version of it. It has a very techy look to it that I am a fan of. Lollipop is too flashy for me. I want my UI to be as high tech looking as possible. For that reason, I actually really like the look of WP8, tbh.
[Nexus 5 General] yyz71:
Ditched KK when L preview arrived haven't looked backed since.. Really don't care about Xposed or Gravity box.. :cool:
[Nexus 5 General] Red_Vex:
If you talk about kk without any mod you're right.....but the option offered by Gravity box are way too great to not have on Lollipop
[Nexus 5 General] AndrasLOHF:
Agreed. I used to use the most feature heavy ROMs out there or sometimes run a bit more stockish with some Xposed modules but since about spring this year I've stripped down to less feature heavy ROM's and no Xposed. Guess I'm already used to less.
[Nexus 5 General] TheLastSidekick:
I will say this ; in this predicament exactly is why MultiROM is just so god darn useful. You can have the best of both worlds. So yes I'm staying on KitKat but I'm also straying from it at the same time.

Primary : Official Lollipop root/code blue kernel

Secondary : Cactylsm ROM 4.4.4 with xPosed and code blue kernel
[Nexus 5 General] Primokorn:
I'm not that guy who updates just because there's something new. New doesn't mean better.

Even if the new UX is great:

• a serious lack of features

• a bright UI

• no XPrivacy

• no theme engine

• incompatibilities and headaches await me :)

So I will be on KK for the coming weeks (at least).
[Nexus 5 General] fire6water:
I rely like kk. Must ppl jump on the new os band wagon as soon as it's available. Being on the latest and greatest before stability. I will be stating on kk until AOKP gets on lollipop. Which now cm12 is available can't imagine it will be long. Luscious unicorn...........
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Yup! MultiROM is awesome. I have stock 4.4.4 as my main ROM and N5X to play around with.
[Nexus 5 General] Horoscope:
I am sticking with KK as my primary rom and Lollipop as secondary...

for me Xposed & Gravitybox are very imp and it is a deal breaker.... at the same time I love the smootheness of Lolipop and its Material design.... so fiddling around with both thru Multirom..

I am sure in the coming weeks we will have roms for L from CM, PA & SlimKat teams.. probaly then I can completely shift to Lolipop

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I have also observed annoying lag while opening the Dialer app and SMS on new Messenger app on 5.0
[Nexus 5 General] sassigeek:
Dunno if it's just me but it seems strange that someone who is as enthusiastic about their device enough to be an active member of a site like XDA would have a 'If it ain't broke' attitude to latest firmware especially considering all the benefits? Surely it's just delaying the inevitable? I mean you're gonna have to upgrade eventually surely? I liked Gingerbread when it came out but I wouldn't dream of trying to use it in this day and age.
[Nexus 5 General] Evo_Shift:
Some things I do not like such as a normal silent mode (priority mode doesn't silent things like low battery or the wireless charging sound and a few other system sounds. I would imagine camera/camcorder is another). Also, Final Fantasy Dimensions doesn't work and I was in the middle of playing that game. Square is known for taking months to update their games that have game breaking bugs so something like this will probably be a good year before I am able to play it again. Also, Light FLow badly needs an update. Right now there is a reuired peristent notification that bugs me.

Other than those minor issues I like it.
[Nexus 5 General] Blackbox421:
I guess I will also stay on KK for a while. I dont really like the bright UI (like in the settings, or in the app drawer). Another point would be to wait because of the many apps which arent optimized for L yet.?
[Nexus 5 General] Wakamatsu:
More accurately, the attitude is "it ain't broke on KitKat but is broke on Lollipop."
[Nexus 5 General] setspeed:
I can't believe that no-one in this thread has mentioned the elephant in the room, and that is the massive battery drain being reported by the majority of Lollipop users. Personally I would love to be on Lollipop, but I need a working phone at the end of the day, hence I am forced to stay on KitKat :(
[Nexus 5 General] topgeardave:
The problem is that android L regresses in so many areas there's no point upgrading. No silent mode is a deal breaker for most people and before someone talks about priority mode, I have no time to star 1500 contacts and I can't star a number which I don't have to silence them, another bug is the battery draining due to some miscellaneous bug is another issue, also as selinux is more aggressive, root apps need new ways to function but app developers haven't found a workaround yet. It's issues like them which are holding people like me back.

However I am running L on my tablet and it works fine on stock with glitch kernel, apps still need updating but it's fine. Guess the requirements on a tablet are different to a phone.

Also I find that gingerbread is the best android update ever ;) . If the N5 had gingerbread I'd be all over it because after gingerbread scrolling went downhill and system resources became much more heavier.
[Nexus 5 General] ConorCX:
I'm getting the exact same kind of battery life with lollipop as I did KitKat, if not better.
[Nexus 5 General] jneal9:
I'm only waiting to see what rom devs come out with. Whenever we get a few more custom roms and kernels then I'm sure I'll swtch.
[Nexus 5 General] dannejanne:
Majority? More like minority in the big picture! Otherwise that thread would be flooded.

Personally I'll take Lollipop over KK and Xposed any day of the week it's just that nice and no problem with battery :)

I always disliked Holo as it looked too techy and designed for teenagers.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] poodleDoo:
I'm staying on KK maybe until there's a 5.1 and must of the kinks have been ironed out. I don't have any problems with speed or responsiveness; and I am not too fond of the material lokk... My battery life is good for what I use the phone (40-50% at the end of the day, weekends about 10-15%))
[Nexus 5 General] dannydro:
Lollipoop feels lackluster and looks way to girly have u guys even seen the clock app,ridiculous. I know its all cosmetics and could probably be fix ,but until then I'm fine with KitKat.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Last I checked we weren't talking about Gingerbread here. We are talking about staying on KK which as far as I'm concerned provides me everything I need to get out of Android right now. And I fail to see how being an active member of XDA has anything to do with needing to update immediately upon the release of a new OS version. I root my phones, I use Xposed and multiROM, I've flashed new GPU drivers, optimized Dalvik libraries... There is plenty to be had from being a member here without flashing OS updates the moment they are available. Besides, I actually use my phones... Why would I want to be a guinea pig when everyone else seems perfectly content to be one for me? :D
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
I just looked at it for the first time... PINK???? WTF is Google thinking???
[Nexus 5 General] Bonusbartus:
I'll have to stay on kk too, unless someone can convince me to update:p

Normally I would be all for updating, my prev phones I flashed at least once a week, but there are a few functions I just can't do without.

In kk I solved them by using some XPosed modules.

- Exchange Bypass for Exposed, which I really can't live without if I want to connect to my work email...

- Gravity box, which I use to Remap the Right Navigation Softkey, and most importantly "Disable Fullscreen keyboard".

- MaxLock to lock down apps with a tapcode... (minor..)

Is there any way to get thos functionallity in 5?

If so, I'll update immediately.

About the battery problems some seem to be having with 5: I just reflashed stock 4.4.4 on mine a few weeks ago, and the firat 3 days battery life was just dreadfull.

Now I get about 2 days on one charge, with moderate use, constant wifi and data sync, exchange during the workday.
[Nexus 5 General] Nexonian:
Thanks a lot, man. The new layout sucks big time...
[Nexus 5 General] dannydro:
Since were on this subject anyone know to get rid of the OTA notification, it seems google service controls it. i tired to change my build.prop but no go.
[Nexus 5 General] nitinvaid:
I am.staying on Mahdi ROM kitkat till I get cm12 or mahdi l rom

Then hopefully a dark theme for it then will switch to it :D
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Just sent my buddy a text message in Lollipop and the whole top of my screen was pink! Why pink?? Jesus that's ridiculous.
[Nexus 5 General] third son:
Yeah me too however Carbon ROM is perfect and does everything I needed Xposed for so I removed it. I like the darker theme and the ability to change to others readily. I haven't tried lollipop yet as I am waiting for things to settle down.....I have never been an early adopter :)
[Nexus 5 General] gtg465x:
F no. Only reason I am using my Nexus 5 again is because it has Lollipop now and Lollipop is awesome. Love it.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
You even like all the pink??
[Nexus 5 General] byrdcfmma:
I do, but I was in high school back in the 80's:p

I like to update because it's like getting a new phone. I have some battery drain, but other than that, its all good!!
[Nexus 5 General] RoomTenONine:
Don't mind the colors either. A small price to pay for an otherwise amazing new Android.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
I will give you guys that- it's like having a whole new phone. Lollipop is almost unidentifiable as Android. It's easily the biggest visual change they've ever made, and for the most part it's gorgeous. It's just a tad too bright for my tastes. I can definitely see Lollipop being the version to win over quite a few iOS users who previously thought Android was too ugly for them.
[Nexus 5 General] jayRokk:
I think the whole Android vs iOS thing is close to over.

This is how I see it, Android is the best when it comes to customization. And honestly iOS UI is gorgeous. They both have 'perfected' their main focus and are now headed in the other direction

Ex:

Customization - Fluid UI

Android -------------> <----------------- iOS

​

Which is great. I love the way mobile phone are headed, specially android.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
I agree with your entire post. I love iOS, I just wish it was more customizable but it's heading in that direction, slowly but surely. Apple is going to have to give in eventually.
[Nexus 5 General] wolfen69:
What pink are you talking about? I flashed the factory image and have no pink on my phone.
[Nexus 5 General] Primokorn:
Deskclock AFAIK
[Nexus 5 General] Rusty!:
If I caught anyone using that on any of my servers they would have their mobile access removed.

Instead of bypassing security (which is there for a reason), use Nine, it's a great app.
[Nexus 5 General] Bonusbartus:
first: I don't care,

second: I'll try it, what happens with the enforced security when using Nine? EDIT: never mind, its already working:)

now just the MaxLock (or something similar) and disable fullscreen keyboard
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
The clock app, and in the stock Messenger app. It's really offensive in the Messenger app because the entire top of my screen is pink for some threads.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
I just flashed a dark theme for my Lollipop ROM (N5X) and it makes it look a heckuva lot better. I actually really like the way it looks now, it's no longer a high school girl's dream OS lol.
[Nexus 5 General] Masteryates:
I'm staying on KK for now. I think google made a real mess of the lock screen situation. Too many extra swipes to do the same as you could on KK. No power toggles either...:crying:

Wouldnt mind a second phone to give it a proper try before taking the plunge on my Daily Driver. :cool:

I know 4.4.4 took along time coming but since then I'd say its the most solid OS I've ever used. It just works, no crashing, no restarts, no random reboots. Battery life could be better but at least its consistent. :angel:
[Nexus 5 General] bigwillis:
Delete
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
No need for a second phone. Just do what I do- multiROM!
[Nexus 5 General] DigitalUnderground:
This is randomly selected. Each person gets a different color. I enjoy it.

The clock is kinda sick IMO... Its magenta during day hours and black at night.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Well I just flashed the Dark Material theme over it so my eyes no longer have to be offended :)
[Nexus 5 General] gtg465x:
What pink? I just opened the clock app and the background faded from purple to blue. Are you talking about the pink world clock button at the bottom of the app? None of that bothers me. Is there pink anywhere else? I like the splashes of color all over the place. The default beige and gray Holo themes were dull and boring.
[Nexus 5 General] cce10:
Really can't get on with L, lock screen, toggles, takes twice as long to do anything.

Quick question, if I do a factory reset will it go back to the Kit Kat it came with or am I stuck on L now so will have to be root and flash?
[Nexus 5 General] Rusty!:
Factory reset will leave L.

Factory image if you want to go backwards.
[Nexus 5 General] gtg465x:
I don't have any pink threads in messenger, but the colors are random. Delete the threads that are pink and start them again and you might get a different color. The colors do allow you to quickly glance and remember who you're talking to after a bit, but they probably should be customizable in case you get a color you don't like or want to set the color manually. But then again, the Messenger app doesn't even come with Lollipop on the Nexus 5, so why did you download it if you don't like it? Just use Hangouts or something else.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
I have 3 threads and 2 of them were pink. But now I've flashed a theme so it's all good.

I'm using an AOSP ROM, so that's the app that came with it. And Hangouts is god awful.
[Nexus 5 General] :
I'm staying on Kit Kat for now. I need Xposed and Gravitybox, so I will wait until they come out and will update later. And why the heck did Google think it was a good idea to have all these bright colors for the apps and menus? I hated the bright theme on my iPad, my Macbook, and now my phone?
[Nexus 5 General] Nicocotier:
This Lollipop is too "young" and buggy for me. I'll wait until this troubles are corrected and all my favorite apps moved to 5.0. Plus the lack on Xposed is convincing me t sty on 4.4.4 for some weeks/months. Once there'll be a clean and stable stock lollipops version with all apps and modules following this way, for sure i'll move to this new attracting lollipops
[Nexus 5 General] pfmiller:
How come no ones mentioned the disaster that are the lock screen audio controls on lolipop?

This is with private data hidden, if you turn off lockscreen notifications you don't get anything. They need to bring back the old lock screen controls.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Never tried it till just now and you're right, it's a disaster. I definitely don't think lollipop is ready for prime time.
[Nexus 5 General] sorindobrin:
Metalhead , I'm in the same boat , once they got the factory image up I took the plunge and installed it , gave it a couple of days and just didn't do it for me....went back to 4.4 . I don't like the new notifications implementation at all, plus I'm a heavy music user and the new lock screen music widget it's straight up dumb...you cannot skip back songs. Plus that rectangle in the middle of the album art is bad looking. Now I listen to music , want to change the song, just reach in my pocket long press the volume up (Gravity+xposed) and the song plays again. In lollipop I have to pull out the phone, unlock it, open the music app and then I can finally do it.

I see people replying with "you are closed minded, you don't like the new things, and what not" ... You have to understand that for some , me included, the phone is a tool , a tool to help us accomplish ,whatever our own personal needs are, in a fast, straight up way. I get it , some need a new shiny toy to get them excited , and that's ok. But for me 4.4 is everything that I need in a phone os , it's fast enough, never crashes, mature .

I do run lollipop on my OG nexus 7 , I was hopping will breath some new life in it.

Finally figured out (I hope) how to get rid of that annoying OTA update notification
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Yeah, you and I think alike. We're definitely not closed minded, I'm running Lollipop via multiROM so it's not like I haven't used it. I really do like it, but for now KitKat fits my needs better.
[Nexus 5 General] Pain-N-Panic:
I love it. Absolutely love it. I was never a huge fan of KK. Lollipop is much nicer for me. I CANNOT wait to see what hitman and team DIRT release for AOSP lollipop. Dirty unicorns was the best ROM I've ever ran on any device by far.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Have you tried N5X? It's AOSP with just a few extra mods, like the ability to resize the navbar. There's a dark theme for it too that makes it look seriously amazing.
[Nexus 5 General] evertking:
staying on KK

I'm staying on KK till slim does LP right!