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[Nexus 5 General] DonDizzurp:
Look. It's very simple. It's elementary physics.

When we're talking about light, there is NO WAY whatsoever that "white" can come from nothing. White requires all RGB subpixels to be 'ON'. Black is RGB all off. The reason why LCD black isn't "pure black" is because of the backlighting (whereas OLED has a lighting per pixel rather than an overall backlighting so it can be turned off per pixel.)

An 'off' pixel will always be black because 'off' is the absence of light.
[Nexus 5 General] DARTHVAPOR:
SOKP is still my primary rom in multirom, but I can't seem to switch back from foxhounds phantom pain. Give it a try, its blacked out, stable and smoother that kk.

sent from my blacked out lollipop
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
I'll give it a try, thanks for the recommendation.
[Nexus 5 General] wim69:
Tried Lillipop a couple of days, but staying on KitKat, until all apps I use are working (Simple Calendar Widget for example) and I am missing Xposed.
[Nexus 5 General] echardcore:
4.4.4 OEM rooted here. Love it. Barely any FCs. Super smooth and good battery life.

Just flashed an L ROM on an old Sansung Nexus 4 and I love it. Its preeeeeeetty. I feel like all that prettyness will equal battery though. I've seen some incompatibilities with some apps. I'm using the N4 as a media player now in my home and saw some FCs when navigating around in the options of, Tune-In Radio (I think). I can;t have that. I'll wind up wrapped around a tree.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Samsung Nexus 4? You mean LG? Or is it a Galaxy Nexus?
[Nexus 5 General] echardcore:
Galaxy Nexus 4 (Verizon). I bought my GF a LG G3 and had a device to wipe / clean flash an L ROM before flashing to my N5. It runs pretty good on that thing. Right now it's playing soft jazz for the new crazy kitty we adopted. I'm curious to see if it holds up all day unplugged streaming via Wi-Fi in Airplane mode on L. I doubt it.
[Nexus 5 General] sorindobrin:
They also removed the Google search access straight from the lock screen..swiping up
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
It's a Galaxy Nexus, not a Galaxy Nexus 4 ;). LG made the Nexus 4 and it was GSM only, so no Verizon.
[Nexus 5 General] class101:
I have seen 5.0 and desinstalled , does not bring anything new I need but worse,

- Killed the rndis interface for manual USB reverse tethering with all these security measures while it was working crystal clear in 4.4.4 [link] and not only

- They force you now to use your main Google Account password, using an App generated password on it does not work anymore, what a nice security move, plenty of security measures added while they force you to login on Google with your main password, this crazy paradox

- The touchpad sensitivity has been increased, you can issue unwanted clicks on app buttons while swiping views, for example try to scroll down the supersu option panel without issuing a missclick on a button then congrats you got an achievement, in 4.4.4 after downgrading I can scroll it 10, 20, etc.. times, I will never issue a missclick...

Enough for me, very disappointing developers, for me 5.0 is a regression while downgrading to 4.4.4 gives me the sensation of a progression.

Nexus 5 Speed Test - Manually USB Reverse Tethering ON - 4.4.4 (stable and as fast my box can)

Nexus 5 Speed Test - Manually USB Reverse Tethering OFF - 4.4.4 (unstable and slow as hell wifi sucks = 5.0 Lollipop)
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Bumping this. I've tried a few different 5.0 ROMs and while I find N5X to be the best of the bunch, it still can't compete with stock 4.4.4 + Xposed. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that KitKat is going to be my OS until I am forced to upgrade when I purchase my next phone, and I'm perfectly OK with that. Surely all the bugs will be worked out by then, but I'm not looking forward to the new theme. Material Design is just not for me. Google clearly went for more mainstream appeal, which is understandable, but I feel alienated because of it. Sorta like when Metallica released Load and Reload, though I have since grown to love those albums for what they are... maybe I'll grow to love Material Design...?
[Nexus 5 General] hayzooos:
Pretty sure I'm with ya on that one. My N5 on 4.4.4 works so freaking well, I see zero reason to change. It's almost liberating to not have to deal with the constant flashing I was so used to previously when I had a GS3. As of right now, the only reason I'll make the jump to 5.x is if they bake T-Mobile wifi calling into it. I'll flash it the day it's released.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
For sure. I grew out of the "flashaholic" phase of my life over a year ago. Now I just want my phone to work and not have to mess with anything ever again, and KitKat gives me that perfectly. If I decide I want to tweak something, there's always Xposed. Seriously, if I never have to flash a ROM again for the rest of my life, I'll be a happy man.

All that said, I have messed with other ROMs via MultiROM, but I don't really consider that the same thing as constantly flashing new ROMs trying to find a daily driver, and then constantly flashing updates to those ROMs whenever the dev added new features. Heck, the only thing I use Titanium for nowadays is to freeze stuff and backup some of my important apps before I update them, in case I don't like the new versions.
[Nexus 5 General] theesotericone:
LOL. I'm so glad I stopped by this thread.

True story. When Load first came out I drove to my local record shop to buy the CD. I listened to about 20 minutes of it driving to my buddies house. I parked, popped it out of my cd player, put it into it's case and went inside. I handed it to him and never listened to the rest of the album. Still haven't. Load of Crap would have been a better name.

As for as 5.0 goes. It's still young and in time will easily surpass KK. Wait out a few more weeks until more features are added to the custom ROMs and give it another go. I'm still undecided about material design but it could have been worse.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
There's some great tunes on those records! It's not the same Metallica we grew up with, but the music is still very solid. If you really haven't listened to them since, go to youtube and check out Outlaw Torn, Bleeding Me, Where the Wild Things Are, Low Man's Lyric, and the seriously unbelievable Fixxxer.

Back on topic, yeah Material Design actually feels like an OEM skin to me, ala Touchwiz or Sense. It just doesn't feel like stock Android to me anymore. I guess that's my biggest problem with it. That and all the white. Though on my N5X ROM I have through MultiROM, I flashed a material dark theme which is admittedly pretty cool.
[Nexus 5 General] DroidOnRoids:
You're making me itch heading back to Stock KK with Xposed. Like you, I want to have something that is rock solid and doesn't need to be altered drastically. I love Lollipop. I love Project Volta. I love Material Design. What I'm starting not to like? Having to keep flashing roms and losing data to start over. Life is getting too busy for me to constantly be flashing. A stock rom and Xposed still gives me options and they're options that I can depend on. 4.4.4 is a great Android version. Very stable unlike the early versions of Lollipop in which I have to keep updating and reading up on 'When duz my phone get teh new update'?

Yeah this is a Nexus device. This is crack flasher heaven. But stock Android and Xposed is where I feel right at home.
[Nexus 5 General] Unknownkj:
I'm on kit kat. Material looks too pretty for me. Still loving the good ole asop holo Blue and kitkat white
[Nexus 5 General] Masteryates:
I have to agree, I'm starting to feel alienated. These issues with the lockscreen extra swipes, lack of gallery, keyboard that now sucks etc just reminds me of Microsoft dictating to use that, "the ribbon is better." :rolleyes:

I'm wondering if Google actually understood why Kit Kat was so much better than iOS, (IMO, not wishing any replies to this comment!) or did they just blindly stumble into it?

I'm not against Google trying new things but giving a choice, would allow them to try something new without alienating current users. :highfive:
[Nexus 5 General] beekay201:
went back to KK on manta and considering going back also on hammerhead
[Nexus 5 General] Masteryates:
Have to agree on the whole Holo Blue thing. :highfive:

All this white sucks. Is Google trying to copy iOS7/8 :confused:
[Nexus 5 General] fkloznica:
Yep,memory leak is killing lollipop..
[Nexus 5 General] justiiin:
Happily staying on KitKat, after I found how to kill the OTA message without getting wakelocks.

The animations in Lollipop just dont cut it for me.

I mean, yes, it looks nice and all, but to me it feels like it slows down the phone.

Especially the part where everything slides up and down.. that animation just seems slow.

Too many things that draw me away from it at this point.

I'll be waiting for a few extra months, where it'll get optimized to beat KitKat.

Untill then, rocking KitKat with ART enabled here (its so fast and stable like that.. beats any phone).
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
You mean the Nexus 10 and Nexus 5? That's what the devices are actually called. Manta and hammerhead are INTERNAL code names. Are you internal?
[Nexus 5 General] wifesabitch:
You know you can turn animations off, right?

And it's already "optimized" and faster than KK.

You should just upgrade, no reason to stay behind.
[Nexus 5 General] Evensoul82:
I do, on my second phone - Sams galaxy Ace 2 ))
[Nexus 5 General] mEmoZz:
Still on my lovely stock ❤❤
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
What's with that ugly update notification? :p

Here, fix it- http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2952845
[Nexus 5 General] third son:
Loving Carbon with Xperia launcher and holo transparent theme ! Rock solid!

-Sent from the ice cold depths of my mind
[Nexus 5 General] beekay201:
ugh? what's this? are you like, pissed off, or jealous? :|

meh. i'm not the only one that uses codenames to refer to devices. anyways, Nexus 10 and Nexus 5 are "normal" names. I like their fish names better.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Just giving you friendly crap. I say the same thing to my buddy who still calls the Nexus 6 Shamu. :p
[Nexus 5 General] mEmoZz:
I will use ROM Toolbox for that mission, but thnx at all :D

---EDIT---

lol!

Now I got this :D :D
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
That's weird. What did you do to block the update that ended up with that? Mine still shows an update available if I manually check.
[Nexus 5 General] dimex:
Went back to KitKat myself. Stuck with Lollipop for a bit, but Xposed just puts the icing on the cake. It's a lot of little things keeping me from committing to Lollipop.

If you're on postpaid, get a CellSpot Router (free T-Mobile Asus WiFi AC router optimized for WiFi calling). I literally have zero service in my apartment and use Hangouts WiFi calling at home. It was pretty bad on my old router (big echo for other callers, dropped calls), but I just hooked up the T-Mobile router and it's made everything so much better.

It would be nice to get WiFi calling but I'm happy with how it's working at the moment.
[Nexus 5 General] :
Haha I went to Lollipop for a couple days then went back. KitKat with Xposed is a godsent combo. Too many things I use that Xposed jjsut happens to offers. And I'm one of those people who can't stand a bright theme so the new design doesn't appeal to me.
[Nexus 5 General] sbslammer:
Multirom is a must. Still boot my kk more often tho since nav ring shortcuts are probably the best feature ever invented
[Nexus 5 General] kennonma:
yes iam, sotkc rom.........but drink lot of battary
[Nexus 5 General] jtdc:
i would love to stick with KitKat, but what's the point of having a Nexus if you don't experience the latest android version with it?

if i am using a non-nexus phone (like Xperia Z3 Compact for instance), i wouldn't bother with updates much.
[Nexus 5 General] Primokorn:
Do not restrict the use of a Nexus device to system updates... Those devices have other things to offer. Quick updates is just one of the many advantages offered by Nexus devices. I'm OK to update ONLY IF there are more advantages than disadvantages. That is not how things are at present.
[Nexus 5 General] mEmoZz:
Nope, that's good for me :D
[Nexus 5 General] jtdc:
true. everyone has their purpose of owning a nexus. for me, its primarily to get Google designated experience out of the box without any bloats or mods. i believe Nexus are the best that Android has to offer out of the box (similar to Apple devices that simply just works out of the box, no tweaks or mods necessary) for the general public who don't even know what root or modding is.

others want nexus for the openness it has and the developer support behind it, to flash and mod whatever they want. i respect that choice, but i am already over with that stage. i just want something out of the box that simply works fast and good, and Nexus is it as Google intended.

for lollipop... hmm my only gripe is the lesser battery life i get with it, after observing for ~20 days. because of this i am forced the need to root to find and eliminate the cuplrit. once resolved, i will go back to full unrooted stock.
[Nexus 5 General] luigeitor:
And what do you think to resolve the battery life?
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Because it's a great phone for a great price that runs pure android out of the box. My love for it has absolutely zero to do with updates or ROMs or anything like that. Why do I have to be running software that I don't like in order to justify owning a Nexus? Doesn't really make much sense. In fact, I'd argue that the biggest perk of the Nexus 5 is that we can choose to run pretty much whatever software we want on it. And that said, I choose to run KitKat, and that's what gives me my amazing Nexus experience.
[Nexus 5 General] hayzooos:
Oh yeah, I already took advantage of the CellSpot...thing is a beast. Speeds throughout the house are SO much better. I'm actually capping my speed on my laptop in my office which I was getting about 30% prior. Not only does it prioritize wifi calling, but it's a freaking great router in general. My wife has a GS4 so she can use it for calling, but we really don't need it as service in the house is good enough. Great router though, that's for sure.
[Nexus 5 General] paranoyd1:
I put lollipop on my Nexus 7 2013 but sticking to kit kat on my phone. Other then the nice animations I don't feel like I'm missing much but losing out on much more with 4.4.4 + Xposed. Also the RSA software token app doesn't work on 5.0 yet and I need it for work.

I wish I could disable the annoying OTA system update notification though. Every recommended work around I've tried hasn't worked.
[Nexus 5 General] 7h0m50n:
This worked for me: http://xdaforums.com/google-nexus-5/general/how-to-disable-ota-lollipop-wakelock-t2952845
[Nexus 5 General] Carbajal3009:
Saw this thread open up when 5.0 came out...just read it and went on my way not thinking much...BUT now...well yesterday lol i switched back from 5.0 to KK. I personally like the material design. Im no mainstream by any means...but i just like it..appeals to the eye. With that said I just loved having all the bells and whistles with KK. Im on the final stable version of DU..and it kicks a$$. ? i would say KK is like Ride the Lightning or Kill em All...and LP is like....There self titled Metallica album..better known as black. Both great albums...but obviously Ride...was heavier!! ??
[Nexus 5 General] class101:
if you are not fine to disable OTA this way there is a simpler way to access these settings with the app "System Tuner" or the Pro version and in the App section, hit button to see all Apps, select the Google Framework service app (com.google.android.gsf) hit open, Details, check if the UpdateService entries mentionned in the previous link someone posted are disabled, repeat the steps with the Google Play Store service (not sure is correct english name) com.google.android.gms , and repeat, hit open, Details and uncheck the right checkbox in the different tabs.
[Nexus 5 General] devilnat:
Im staying on Kitkat for quite some time now. Back then I flashed Lp once, and I had weird battery drain so back to KK. :o
[Nexus 5 General] galaxys:
Spoiled by smooth fast bug free Purity KK!
[Nexus 5 General] wolfen69:
For me, turning off Location when not needed gives me way better battery life than on KK. Sure Lolly isn't perfect, but I haven't encountered any showstoppers. I had more bugs running custom roms than I do on Lolly.

Given time, Lolly will get updates and all of the kinks will be ironed out and people will be saying "KitKat who?". But hey, use whatever floats your boat. I promise not to lose sleep over your choice. Anyway you look at it, the Nexus 5 is still a great phone with many options available.
[Nexus 5 General] Ahimsa310:
Strongly... Strongly considering going back to slimkat. I miss all of the customization... Thinking of going back and encrypting for the first time which I've never done on KK.
[Nexus 5 General] class101:
reverse tether ok

finally able to reserve tether on lollipop, the trick is to manage our own instance of dnsmasq and enabling rndis through the setprop command instead of the usb checkbox, script below should work on 4.4.4 and 5.0

rndis.sh (Enable RNDIS)

echo -- rndis0: setting usb mode to rndis --
setprop sys.usb.config 'rndis'
echo -- rndis0: adding ip rule --
ip rule add from all lookup main
echo -- rndis0: flushing interface --
ip addr flush dev rndis0
echo -- rndis0: setting ip --
ip addr add 192.168.137.101/24 dev rndis0
echo -- rndis0: starting the interface --
ip link set rndis0 up
echo -- rndis0: setting route --
#ip route add default via 192.168.137.1 dev rndis0
busybox route add -net 0.0.0.0 netmask 0.0.0.0 gw 192.168.137.1 dev rndis0
#echo -- rndis0: (optional) setting iptables --
#iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING 1 -o rndis0 -j MASQUERADE
#echo -- rndis0: (optional) setting ip_forward --
#echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
echo -- rndis0: setting properties --
setprop net.dns1 8.8.8.8
setprop net.dns2 8.8.4.4
setprop net.rndis0.dns1 8.8.8.8
setprop net.rndis0.dns2 8.8.4.4
setprop net.rndis0.gw 192.168.137.1
setprop net.rndis0.gateway 192.168.137.1
echo -- rndis0: starting dnsmasq --
killall dnsmasq &> /dev/null
dnsmasq --no-poll --pid-file --interface=rndis0 --interface=wlan0 --interface=rmnet0 --bogus-priv --filterwin2k --no-resolv --server=8.8.8.8 --server=8.8.4.4 --cache-size=1000 --dhcp-range=192.168.137.101,192.168.137.110 --dhcp-lease-max=253 --dhcp-authoritative --dhcp-leasefile=/cache/usb_tether_dnsmasq.leases < /dev/null

rndisoff.sh (Disable RNDIS)

echo -- rndis0: stopping the interface --
ip link set rndis0 down
echo -- rndis0: flushing interface --
ip addr flush dev rndis0
echo -- rndis0: deleting ip rule --
ip rule del from all lookup main
echo -- rndis0: stopping dnsmasq --
killall dnsmasq &> /dev/null
echo -- rndis0: setting back usb mode to mtp --
setprop sys.usb.config 'mtp'
[Nexus 5 General] elbel86:
Sticking with KK.

Why?

I use xposed and gravitybox to block the lollipop upgrade notification. If I upgrade to lollipop, how would I ever hide that notification without xposed?

But seriously, I tried it for a week and it was just painful, especially on my eyes, too many bright colors. That and I need my custom quick toggles, and lockscreen shortcuts.

As soon as xposed is compatible, I will definitely upgrade, really looking forward to things like wifi to cellular handoff of calls, and probably some other things I heard but can't remember right now.
[Nexus 5 General] madd0g:
Went back to KK after 10 days on Lollipop stock factory image, so I'll stick with it for quite a while, because I have a life. We're not missing much anyway, only thing that was major was the new Camera API, but Google didn't ship a new camera app who would use it anyway, so who cares about it. It's nice in a tech demo, but an actual production use would be better.

After 5 years on Android, my next device will be an iOS phone, I'm tired of Googles beta crap and constant need to nanny the phone.
[Nexus 5 General] 350Rocket:
I switched my ex girlfriend over from iOS to nexus 4 and my current girlfriend to a moto x. Both couldn't be happier. They had issues with ios plus some hardware issues. Both actually had WiFi fail after the ios7 update. Will see if life is perfect for you once you switch to iOS. Lol
[Nexus 5 General] AndreIrawan97:
Me, lol !

Because some of my apps won't work with L. For example, if you open cookie run, the bgm is not appear. I already check on bgm setting, it's on.

So, yeah, i'm using Vanir ROM now, which is nice.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Have you tried flashing a dark theme? It makes a HUGE difference and makes Lollipop actually look kinda cool.

As far as Xposed is concerned, I'm not holding my breath. I am perfectly happy staying on KitKat to keep my Xposed, I don't think I'm missing out on anything. Quite the contrary, actually. Losing Xposed just for Lollipop is a massive hit to me.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
As much as I love my iPhone 6 and iPad Mini Retina, the whole "iOS just works" thing is garbage. I have had more problems with my iPhones over the years than with Android, especially since Jelly Bean. In my opinion, the Nexus 5 with 4.4.4 just works. I have literally ZERO issues with it. I've had MAYBE 3 force closes in the year that I've been with the N5, whereas apps crash on the iPhone all the damn time.
[Nexus 5 General] 350Rocket:
Anything this complicated with technology is going to have issues. Its okay to choose to prefer iOS, but to talk like its flawless without any real experience with it is annoying.

First iOS device I had was iPod touch 2g and it would completely lock up when switching tracks, requiring reboot.

Back on topic, I switched back to try slimkat, cause I love the dark theme. I'm waiting for the custom ROMs and black themes to be perfected on lollipop then I'll update again. I didn't actually have issues with any of the 3 lollipop custom ROMs I tried even before the factory image was released (which I never tried).

Misc battery usage stat was there but I still got normal battery life so who cares?
[Nexus 5 General] 7h0m50n:
iOS since 7.0 has been really buggy. 8 is even worse. Lots of crashing apps/weird glitches all throughout.

I went back to KitKat because it's pretty much flawless on the Nexus 5. L is not ready for primtime. The atrocious battery life and memory leaks and other dumb decisions by the Android team (like sound options) are terrible.

I finally decided to root and installed ElementalX kernel and now my battery life is better than it's ever been.
[Nexus 5 General] class101:
As suggested I think I have reduced the heavier battery usage of Lollipop than on KitKat by disabling Location detection when I don't need and with System Tuner I uninstall all the garbage Apps I don't need and running in the background, Google Youtube, Google Fit, Google Music, Google Play, Google Kiosque and compagnie, most of them are installed by default this is a waste when you don't need them and they are installed as SYSTEM app often with a process in the cache... System Tuner is really good to get ride of them and tweak a few more settings (is updated 5.0 ready, Pro version highly recommanded!)
[Nexus 5 General] mosaiques:
Anybody else staying on KitKat?

No, but I should. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 5 General] Unknownkj:
Therefore multirom is a must have. Kit kat and lollipop
[Nexus 5 General] Steve.99:
I flashed 5.0 factory image and I find it a real upgrade from KK but I am plagued by this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2531769

And I cannot connect to wifi at work. So I will give it a few more days see if someone find a work around and if nothing happen I will be returning to KK until it get fixed.
[Nexus 5 General] Hunter008:
Flashed lollipop and went back to cm11 KK, I love the ability to change the theme on the fly. Can't risk it. Let cm12 gets on the track.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
It makes perfect sense. I bought a Nexus because it's a great phone for a great price and I like stock Android. The only other phone that gives me that is the Moto X, and I have that too.
[Nexus 5 General] meangreenie:
i have both via multirom. Using kitkat now because i find art just plain sh1t.