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[X 2014 General] MustangFTW:
For $25+tax they sent me a brand new phone(they put a $250 hold on my card so that i can get the new one then send mine out). Sucks that MetroPCS charges $15 when you change phones though :/

I got the new one within 7 days, it shipped from china.
[X 2014 General] Legacystar:
did you go directly through motorola or through metroPCS?
[X 2014 General] MustangFTW:
I purchased the pure edition from Motorola directly and did the warranty swap through them.

It was a pretty smooth transaction, although seems like I'll be paying for return shipping.
[X 2014 General] bugsy:
There was an article on one of the android sites, I forget which one, outlining how to clean it using saddle soap. I've used the stuff in the past and it works wonders on leather.

Found the link: http://www.androidcentral.com/how-clean-leather-back-your-moto-x-and-make-it-smell-oh-so-fresh
[X 2014 General] Legacystar:
i'm going to try this, they used it on black which wouldn't really show any dirt removal. but i will try it.
[X 2014 General] SolarTrans:
My navy blue model is a month old and it looks like it's fresh out the box (well, except for a big scratch near the top where I gouged it with my nail on accident :P).
[X 2014 General] KnightWatchman:
Yeah it's pretty much impossible to keep the leather pristine with daily use. I got the black leather and I sometimes wish I'd gotten wood instead, but overall I still love it. I keep my phone in it's own pocket and I'm gentle with it, but even a the wrong swipe with a fingernail will put a dent in it. My black leather doesn't show much dirt, but I've got a fair amount of denting.
[X 2014 General] Legacystar:
Well boys, tried the saddle soap and it doesn't seem to help. :(
[X 2014 General] bradley26:
It's leather!!!! It will wear and absorb the oils from your hands. It isn't going to look new.
[X 2014 General] cent_0_o:
I knew after a few days it wasn't going to hold up well. I would have been okay with a little wear over time but I didn't go two days before I noticed spots on it. I ended up exchanging it.
[X 2014 General] CallMeBwana:
I have always thought part of the beauty of leather items, was the aging process. I have always done things to accelerate the process, I never thought anyone would want to curtail it.
[X 2014 General] savini72:
Exactly how I felt. I wanted it to wear and get that "Used Leather "look, but over time. Would have been nice if it could have stayed the natural color for more than 2 days.... went back and now i have bamboo, NO RAGRATS
[X 2014 General] Legacystar:
it would be nice if it was an even wear in, but a large dark spot is just unsightly
[X 2014 General] godutch:
the rest will get darker with time and you will get some scratches and scuffs too, don't worry aboit that. Mine was scratched out of the box, I chose leather because it continues to look good in spite or even because of the wear
[X 2014 General] Legacystar:
My 2013 plastic back looked flawless till the day I got rid of it...
[X 2014 General] wpscully:
Discoloration

What's particularly horrible about your discoloration is that it appears nearly identical to the Verizon logo.

Oops. That

is

a Verizon logo. Yuck! ;)

I bought the blue leather and the color is so dark at first I thought it was black. Only in sunlight does it actually appear blue to my eye.
[X 2014 General] swbf2lord:
Motorola has been disappointing me lately with the longevity of their designs. My Turbo started fraying (64GB Nylon) after a week and a half of use, so I returned it. Currently trying out the Z3v, which has its own quirks, but at least the build is solid, if fragile.
[X 2014 General] jmacphee9:
Exactly ^ I guarantee this is exactly how Motorola wanted it to be as well. I'm jealous of your leather back phone, in a year that phone will be nearing perfection.
[X 2014 General] AllenLoyola23:
Could not agree more

Could not agree more. That's the reason I actually chose my cognac leather back. Mine looks great since getting it. I'm not worried at all about getting scars. If anything I'm only worried about wet marks but the leather actually handles that pretty well. It took a few hours to go away but if you use common sense and not use a quick dry method it'll hold up well.
[X 2014 General] linuxsense:
Its good quality leather, it will hold up fine, but lighter colored leather that is exposed to the oil from your hands will change in appearance pretty quickly. This should be expected and frankly it should be embraced......that is what leather does. I have cars with extremely nice leather interiors that are 20 years old and they are great, as are a few leather jackets I have that are up to 50 years old. They wear from use but when properly cared for they just keep getting better.

If it gets dirty leather needs to be cleaned and it cant be allowed to dry out. Exposure to UV light and water will dry it out but the oil from your hands goes a long way to prevent that. If it gets dirty just use a good quality leather cleaner and conditioner on it like Lexol or similar. It will clean it but it will never return it to a 'like new' state.

If you dont like how it will change from use...return it. Its leather. Thats what it does. You will be fighting a battle you cant win until you get another phone.
[X 2014 General] bucketheadmjs:
Lexol is the only way to treat leather besides saddle soap IMO. You need both the cleaner and conditioner. Walmart carriers it in the automotive section
[X 2014 General] phenix14:
This. As a car detailer Lexol is what I'll use in a pinch since its available over the counter. It would also help if you pick up a soft horse hair or boars hair brush. A decent shoe shine brush would usually fit the bill. Spray a little Lexol on the phone or plenty on the brush. Very lightly scrub (literally no pressure, just keep the bristles in contact). After a little scrubbing you'll notice the dirt being pulled out of the pores and suspended on the surface. Wipe away before it dries back on.

This works if all you have is dirt and oils... If its actually stained, this won't work, at least not without scrubbing so much that you wear away the stained leather (not good!)
[X 2014 General] phippsy84:
Isn't that the beauty of leather? It ages, it shows wear, it gains character over time. If you expect it to stay the same for the life of the phone as the day you got it you shouldn't have gotten leather.
[X 2014 General] Legacystar:
I used saddle soap and it didn't seem to do anything .
[X 2014 General] SolarTrans:
It's still in great shape, but I kinda regret getting navy leather. Really wanna find a cognac backplate.

I use an all purpose detergent called KC1000 on my leather; it keeps it clean /and/ makes it a ton softer. No color fading, either.

I've used it on every leather case and wallet I have, and nothing but good results. Not sure why, but it just works XD
[X 2014 General] ellover009:
Just out of curiosity.

Doesn't hand moisturizer damage leather?

How is your leather holding up so far?

Thinking about getting a phone with leather but stuck on deciding on color.

Id be really interesting if they would offer a color like this one http://porhomme.com/2011/06/blue-horizon-x-roberu-leather-goods-collection/
[X 2014 General] SolarTrans:
Highly recommend Cognac. Bought navy blue myself, but after seeing cognac I instantly fell in love :P
[X 2014 General] ellover009:
Was gonna go Navy blue, eyeing the cognac. Hate how most picts give poor idea of actual color. Did you see a pict or did you actually see one in real life? What color of trim do you think would look well with the cognac? I think metalic silver or grey looks good but on most picts you don't see the trim too well unless it's an aggressive color like red or purple.
[X 2014 General] Dogtag:
I have the black/black leather version (moto maker still not working over-here), renew my phone with shoe polish clear or black, keeps the phone as new. But if I had the natural version I would use some leather wax once every two weeks/month or so. Problem solved and you have a great smelling device.

(alternatively)
[X 2014 General] SolarTrans:
I'd go black/black/cognac or white/silver/cognac.

I don't much care for phones with black front plates, so I'd likely go silver myself, however I think black and black looks the best next to cognac.

Navy blue is extremely dark, and it honestly looks more like a really bad black unless you're in bright light. Feel good, but doesn't look great IMO.
[X 2014 General] cmdoptesc47:
This is about the most accurate picture I can take:
[X 2014 General] ellover009:
Thanks for the picture man. Beautiful phone. My phone has been acting up even more than usual so it was time to order. I really liked the cognac but ended up settling with black front/black leather/ and silver trim to contrast with phone. Ended up with black because it can cover up marks a little better and I am not worried so much anymore about wear. Got the phone in leather to try something different and enjoy the feel of the phone.

I think if more ppl saw your pict they would be more inclined to go with that color. Makes it look less red, most picts on web are too contrast-y as if they were doing HDR.
[X 2014 General] cmdoptesc47:
No problem. I took the picture with an iPhone 6 in natural light. Also, if you're looking at a picture on an AMOLED screen, the reds are most likely going to pop more, giving the illusion that the phone is more red than it is.
[X 2014 General] stastnysnipes26:
Just want to point out that I have the black leather back, black front and green accents. My back still looks like the day I received it (ordered the first day Verizon Moto maker opened, received about 4 days later.) If you take care of your phone and make sure your hands are relatively clean while handling it, it should last for the life of the phone I would think. I always, every single time i handle my phone at least wipe my hand or hands on my pants or shirt to make sure there is minimal moisture and dirt.
[X 2014 General] ellover009:
Looked at the picts when I was looking on my FW900 Sony CRT. Not too much issues rendering accurate colors. I did notice something interesting. If you look for picts using Google image some pictures look fine and the second you click on them to see full size they magically become ridiculously saturated. I tried it using Firefox and Chrome.
[X 2014 General] gammite:
people should do that with any phone anyway. lol.
[X 2014 General] schuylerb:
Do you by chance wear raw jeans? I'm a big fan of them, and all of my leather eventually tends to have an indigo tint to it. I kinda like it, though. I've got three pairs of natural CXL (Horween) shoes and a natural CXL wallet - all of which have a bit of indigo, but especially the wallet.
[X 2014 General] SolarTrans:
Yep I only wear raw jeans. Big reason why my iPhone 6+ case and Moto X back are navy blue leather XD
[X 2014 General] schuylerb:
I meant the OP... ;)
[X 2014 General] SolarTrans:
Oh I gotcha XD
[X 2014 General] VoluntaryMan:
So I don't have a leather back (teak wood is my preference) but I use a product called "Leather Honey" and their "Leather Honey Leather Cleaner" for my car interior, jacket, and wallet and have had only positive impressions with it. That's what I'd try if I had a leather-backed phone (I would call Moto first to see their recommendation, however)
[X 2014 General] schuylerb:
It's horween leather. The care tag from my Oak Street shoes (natural CXL) suggests venetian shoe cream. It says shoe in the name but the stuff works awesome on leather in general.

You can buy a bottle from here: http://horween.bigcartel.com/product/venetian-cream
[X 2014 General] chivamex10:
surprised no one has posted this yet.

http://youtu.be/g6jZ8G0ws3g
[X 2014 General] SolarTrans:
Yeah I saw that the other day when they posted it. My experience has been a bit different with my leather model though, as I've cleaned it frequently.

Even so, I've had mine for about the same amount of time as Michael has, and there are way less impressions and scratches on the back.

Honestly, it all depends on how well you treat it.

Mine looks like it did the day I took it out of the box (haven't used a case or anything either), yet I've seen some that look like they've been attacked with a knife.
[X 2014 General] PooJou:
Guys, leather especially the lighter colours (or lack thereof when talking aboht natural) are supposed to blemish and age over time. The cognac fot instance is the same leather as the natural, just further down the aging process. My leather on my phone (shown below) is becoming noticeably tougher and less 'spongy' than when new.

Treated with a combination of RedWing Mink Oil and RedWing Leather conditioner.

I had a chat to John from Horween and he has said that he's interested to see how the wears happen over time on our phones.
[X 2014 General] cilicus:
Honestly, it looks beautiful with the dark spots. Makes me kinda regret getting wood.... Leave leather alone, I have a $3000 leather couch that intentionally had dark spots.
[X 2014 General] droidicezero:
How to clean the leather moto x

Most have issues cleaning their moto x. You can use expensive leather cleaner which will work. But why not treat it like a dress shoe. I simply spit shine the moto x. Pick up a pack of kiwi polish. black brown or neutral and simply polish it like a shoe... Or for the military a great spit shine just like a good pair of jump boots Hooah Got it.....
[X 2014 General] mjs2011:
Anyone have the Verizon football edition? I'm curious how that one has held up.
[X 2014 General] chivamex10:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jkUzxq9UzU

I made a video on my saddle soap experience.
[X 2014 General] jackgibbs:
wow the mink oil gave that a massive leap in shade change! that looks the way I'd expect the cognac to look rather than the vaguely orange tint it actually has.

I've accelerated the process of OPs phone on my own natural leather back by applying saphir renovateur a few times, then strategic placement of brown and neutral polishes. it's nice to know if I get bored with it I can change the shade with a simple mink oil appication and start all over.

the only down side is the phone probably won't be worth keeping long enough to see a really good patina form :/
[X 2014 General] tonyguy2000:
Leather texture

Never mind.
[X 2014 General] chivamex10:
I almost want to dye mine leather black at this point. IDK what do you guys think? I guess I can try the mink oil first.
[X 2014 General] flyinion:
I just ordered my Cognac phone. I'll be "sealing" the back with the same thing I use on the interior trim and leather on my vehicles. A product called Ultima Interior Guard Protectant. Well, that's the plan, although I'm going to double check with the big car detailing forum I visit occasionally to double check it can be used on unsealed leather (most vehicle leather in "consumer grade" (non-luxury mfr's) is actually sealed and true leather protectants just sit on top as far as I understand).
[X 2014 General] hidden_is_back:
I am brand new to these forums and I'm interested in the Moto X

I work outdoors And worry that the leather back on the moto X would look like It was in a knife fight after a couple of days.

I'd like to see updates pics of the moto x and how the leather is holding up for you guys.
[X 2014 General] kkhadr:
I'm using my moto x 2014 with black leather back for three months now most of it outdoors and still looks perfect, didn't use any polishes yet.

The only thing which you have to take care of is scratching with sharp edges even if it was your own nails.
[X 2014 General] murso74:
Black leather is holding up nicely. I'm already careful not putting my phone in the same pocket as keys because of the screen, so no big deal
[X 2014 General] ricecake2000:
I have had my leather back since January. It has a few scratches nothing major. I think it makes it have character and the point of the leather. I will admit I still smell it and like it better than my bamboo one that started to peel.
[X 2014 General] scottricketts:
Ditto. When I did a replacement for my cracked screen, I pimped extra to go from bamboo to leather. Less slippery and easier on my hands.
[X 2014 General] GatorsUF:
So my cognac leather back went from a nice brown to almost black now. It is one single shade of very very dark brown. I'd like to make it have a more leathery look, I don't want it perfect and spotless, I'd like some shading and discoloration in certain areas.

Should I just clean it with saddle soap and see how it goes?
[X 2014 General] imaginaryenemy:
Can we see a picture of it's current condition?
[X 2014 General] GatorsUF:
This is the best I can do. It's not the best picture...

http://i.imgur.com/YKfcoUH.jpg
[X 2014 General] imaginaryenemy:
That is insane! You're right, it's VERY even and VERY VERY dark.

I don't know enough about leather to know what is or isn't a good idea.
[X 2014 General] gammite:
i have had my moto x since day one and it is now a sexy cordovan. are u handling the phone with dirty hands?
[X 2014 General] GatorsUF:
At times probably...

Will saddle soap bring it back to original
[X 2014 General] gammite:
i have no idea but i would definitely try.
[X 2014 General] edscholl:
Saddle soap typically darkens leather a bit, but yours is so dark it's probably worth a try anyway. If all else fails, you can probably strip the color with alcohol and repolish to a color of your choice (you'll have to buff the crap out of it after to not stain)
[X 2014 General] imaginaryenemy:
Could some of you that have had leather backs for a significant amount of time post pictures of your backs? So many people posted pictures several weeks in, I would like to see photos of several months in. I'm thinking of getting a leather back on eBay and switching my plastic back.

I guess I am hoping that GatorsUF is an anomaly, as far as what the leather looks like as it has aged.
[X 2014 General] gammite:
i am not in a position to post pix as i am traveling.

but i will add this. i have have my moto x since day one and my leather back looks nothing like that. i have a cognac back that has darkened to a lovely cordovan. it is very attractive. i get compliments on it daily.

not sure what that guy did to his or how he handles his phone. i handle mine with clean hands and no case.
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-g4/550603-battle-damage-your-leather-battery-cover.html
[X 2014 General] mandrsn1:
My back looks similar to his, although not as dark.
[X 2014 General] Shadowdancer123:
I'd clean it very carefully with pure glycerin soap, and then weather proof it with a product called "Viking Fiskarsmorning" it weatherproofs and is silicone free.

I use it for my car steering wheel and other leather details, it gives the leather a slightly "grippy" surface.

It's made by Boston Shoe Care, don't really know if it's named something else outside of the Nordics, but there might be similar products.

A lot of modern leather care products contain silicone for some stupid reason, it not only dries the leather out, but it makes things very slippery.

And in the case of your phone, will cause the adhesive on the other side to dissolve..
[X 2014 General] chivamex10:
Had to do a warranty exchange on my 9 month old moto.

Now I have to start all over again lol
[X 2014 General] chivamex10:
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[X 2014 General] Knolly:
Looking at your old one, I see a bunch of small spots. Did this develop early on? My natural leather has dozens of tiny black dots all over it that it developed in just the first month and I have no idea why. Maybe it's normal after all, but I had natural leather before and this didn't happen.
[X 2014 General] pipandales79:
I just bought a moto x 2nd gen with black leather back off ebay and I must say it has aged beautifully. Got some sofsole leather lube to condition it and I love the outcome, really brought the leather back to life. I can post a pic if someone wants to see it, don't have any new pics since bought used. I know this is a natural forum but figured I'd offer some aged leather pics.
[X 2014 General] wangminh12:
The first phone I didn't want to put a case on. Bought it new on deal, after 4 months it just looks better.
[X 2014 General] kkhadr:
Again one year of usage, my black leather back is holding up pretty good same elegant look and feel, thank you Moto
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] Arteta:
Hello

I purchased a brand new Samsung Galaxy Alpha Direct from Vodafone UK. My sim is under Orange/EE.

I purchased a NUC code from an unlocking vendor online. I entered the correct IMEI number as requested and received the code a few days later. I entered the code and received a message saying "Network request unlock unsuccessful."

Went through troubleshooting with the vendor and could not get it working. A refund was given.

I decided to Vodafone UK to have the phone unlocked direct through them as I thought maybe a dodgy code was given. I received my code yesterday, followed the instructions and again the same message appears.

I was growing tired with this so decided to take it to an independent experienced phone unlocker/repairer and explained the situation to him. I give him the code and he tried various different things and was baffled as this should be an easy process.

The phone is running android 4.4.4

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I have a phone here I cannot use :crying:

Thanks in advance!
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] omarsalah007:
dear same thing happened to me I post a thread on this then I get no answer , but u can use this website to unlock your phone be sure will be unlocked but try to fill information that where you already purchased your phone not where you want to use OK ?

www.unlockunit.com

wish that will help you:)
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] calinormy:
I just unlocked note 4 from Vodafone. I got 4 unlock codes. One is for sim and the other 3 for aomesthing more deeper in the sistem Just worked with the sim unlock code. My question for you is: if you tryed 2 different ( online and Vodafone) YOU SHOULD GOT THE SAME CODE FOR SIM UNLOCK because is strictly related to your IMEI. Is that the case?

P.S. 1.On Google play is a program Note 4 unlock. I got my unlock code in 50 minutes in the day of international launch of note 4. You should try that.

2. Write with Odin a stock firmware and try again your unlock code after that

3. To enter your unlock code you have to insert an non accepted sim in your phone, power up your phone and enter the code when you are asked. Did you do that?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] thekrisho:
Try this

If your phone does not ask for the unlock code:

1. Turn on the phone with original Sim card or without Sim card

2. Enter #7465625*638*NCK/Network#

The phone is now unlocked.

If your phone does not ask for the unlock code:

1. Turn on the phone with a foreign (Unaccepted) Sim card

2. Then enter the following sequence:

#0199*Unfreeze/Defreeze#

#0111*NCK/Network#

#0121*SCK/Subprovider#

#0133*SPCK/Provider#

The phone is now unlocked.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] freedom_john:
where to type this following codes?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] newaje:
Yes where to enter these codes and letters? I tried entering the numbers and nothing happens, if I try to press call it says Mobile network not available.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] arjun90:
Which Color Note 4 Did You Buy?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] lordandroid:
I went with Black
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] redphazon:
Black. It's more comfortable and appealing when looking at the screen.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] slidesear:
White. Changing it up since all my previous phones have been black. It also looks sexy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pmkeitt:
Wanted black but only had white in stock
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
Black as well, we all know black will sell more than white tho!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] EhHowzit808:
Black Note 4 for me and picked up a white Note Edge for my fiancée.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] cnote74:
Black note edge for me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] papashex:
Ive been black since the captivate days. Went white for the samsung inights free s5, regretted it and went back to black for note 4 (insert punch line here).

The screen just looks better against the black body.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] rocer:
Black.

Note 4 me