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[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
I don't think there's any guarantees. But your odds are better if you do that and don't have watch faces that have much of the colors warned about in this thread.

Personally, I use lots of custom faces, and always have the screen on. I just use ones that have thin lines and are not saturated with the wrong colors.

But bottom line, I am going to use it and enjoy it. I don't expect to keep this one 10 years like a "normal" watch, or pass it down to my kids like some old time piece :laugh: .

Although I tried to set the screen to stay on while charging in the Developer Options, it still turns off when charging. So I removed that setting.

I'm not seeing much value in saving the screen and never enjoying this very much. So I try to balance it and have not had any noticeable burn in yet. I'm such a junkie for watch faces, I never use the same one much of a day anyway :cowboy: .

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[MENTION=2000157]ED2O9[/MENTION] - Have you been able to clear up the burn in?
[LG G Watch R] Icefeldt:
That's the spirit!

Don't wanna buy this versatile watch and the be limited to a hand full of watchfaces.
[LG G Watch R] NicksGarage:
Here are the results of going back to always on with a color that doesn't include blue. I turned on always on mode at 7am and at 1pm switched to the white face and the burn in its back. Ran the fixer app and it didn't clear it up this time. I don't know if it worked the first time because I had had always on mode off for a while before running it or not.
[LG G Watch R] Piercing Heavens:
I only use watch faces that are pure black background. They look the best since it literally is black.

Sucks that this happens on light backgrounds but i don't use them.
[LG G Watch R] NicksGarage:
I don't typically use them either and the ones I do don't have a light face in dim mode. If this ends up affecting active screens then I'll be worried.
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
What level of brightness are you using?
[LG G Watch R] NicksGarage:
Generally 4 during the day and 1 at night. The screens don't look as bright as the pictures make it look.
[LG G Watch R] 2k4ever:
you have to distinguish between burn-in and ghosting:

burn-in is permanent and can't be fixed (the stuck pixel fixer app actually wears down the non-burned-in pixels as well - which in the end still looks better as the screen once more gets more uniforme)

ghosting on the other hand isn't permanent, but the pixels having been in use to display a certain image for an extended periode need to recover

some ghosting is normal and you will always get that, but it can also be the first signs of burn-in
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
I've just checked again the burn in on my 1 month old watch. There is not even the slightest sign of burn in and I've always used "always on" mode on it.

The dim faces that I'm using are always truly dimmed and the objects displayed during this mode are thin or pixelated.
[LG G Watch R] chrisnewton:
Mine is ordered, I won't be using always on mode so I'm hoping I won't get burn in
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
If you use active mode with bright elements and you use the same watchface for extended periods of time, burnin will eventually settle.
[LG G Watch R] chrisnewton:
What do you mean by active mode?
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
When the watch face is shown with all the details, in high brightness. If you will stress the same pixels they will eventually start to fade.

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[LG G Watch R] chrisnewton:
Oh right I plan to have nine so it's not on unless I flick wrist, touch it etc
[LG G Watch R] genomecop:
Just curious. Couldn't you run a solid color for a few hours to "clean" the screen?
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Check out this Android Wear WatchFaces app. You can make any type you want quick and easy. It's the most flexible and easy one I've found yet. It does not include weather, but has anything else you'd want. I was using Pujie Black, but I feel it uses much more battery power.
[LG G Watch R] wtf.now?:
+1 This!

I change my screen type every day. I dont let it settle in one screen. All of my screen are black backgrounds.

In order:

Aviator

Aviator "Altitude"

Puji Black.

and stock.

While active on dim setting 2.

Allways on, Let it do its job :D
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
I asked the dev for the watchface I just mentioned, to add weather. And they replied in less than 24 hours, that they are working on it. And they've even added mention of it to their release notes on Google Play.
[LG G Watch R] dsf767:
Man I really want to use the Aviator Watch Face but this thread has worried me enough that I am going to be sticking with the stock faces just because I don't want to deal with burn-in.
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
You should be fine if you use it in moderation. Like 3 hours at an event. But not for days.
[LG G Watch R] t.sjostrom:
How do you decrease the brightness on the dimmed screen below 1? I can only find the setting i wear mini launcher to dim the active screen. Now the dimmed screen is much brighter than the active...

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[LG G Watch R] NicksGarage:
I only find one brightness control but it lets you dim the screen below the level offered in the stock settings. Give it a try. Lower it all the way down and then go to the stock settings and select "1". You'll see how much dimmer it was.

To adjust just the dim mode face only you'll need to use one of the face making apps and duplicate the parts and make a separate dim mode.
[LG G Watch R] NicksGarage:
I did another test. I didn't run the pixel fixer but left the always on mode off for three days. I switched to the white face and don't see the ghosting so it obviously faded on its own. I've switched to only using always on mode only when I really need it. I'm hoping that LG updates the watch to make the screen easier to turn on when moving your wrist. It would be nice if there was a sensitivity setting for it. I would also like to increase the delay before it goes dim.
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Some custom watch faces have an option for setting the screen dim delay time. I know the F03 watch face does.
[LG G Watch R] dersie:
Almost all the watchfaces from Smartwatch Bureau F01,F03, V01, V02... A45, A42.... have a setting for brightness in dim mode. So we can have a dim mode very dark and we can choose the face color for dim between 7 colors : green, blue, cyan, red..... so with this faces we can avoid easily all burn issue.
[LG G Watch R] NicksGarage:
Nice. I bought that one to try it out. Although the face is not what I'm looking for it's nice to see what is possible. I wonder if we'll get some of these capabilites in the the lollipop version of wear.
[LG G Watch R] Koopa777:
To those of you with 5.0.1, have you seen the new "Red" stock face? There is significantly more white, and all the numbers and dials are present on the dimmed face. Can anybody confirm that this is an increased risk for burn in? I'll post a picture later if no one has seen it yet.
[LG G Watch R] wicked1683:
@OP, maybe thats a problem with the face app you installed.

The dev did not take to consideration the burn in issue. You said the app just dimmed but the whole face ui is still in the background. High possibility that the same pixels stay on always.

Take note that the stock face UI of LG in always on mode will have a pixel switching on and off but it is hardly noticeable by the user. (I watch it in 1 of a review in youtube)

Maybe thats why google said to wait for the offical watch face ui from them. Maybe they will have a code to make sure the same pixels aren't turn on always in always on mode
[LG G Watch R] NicksGarage:
I just got the update. With the brightness set to 1, the dim mode on that face looks brighter than the non-dimmed mode.
[LG G Watch R] chrisnewton:
Can't wait to get mine for Xmas.. Just really freaked by this thread lol.. However I'm hopping as I intend to have my watch set to only come on when I tilt my wrist etc I'm hoping this will mean I will not suffer from screen burn.. Also should i change my watch face every few days?
[LG G Watch R] Kama45:
If you don't mind me asking, what opacity do you use for dim mode?
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
It highly depends on what objects I have to make less visible. The idea is to get a visible time in the dim mode and everything else to be barely visible. I'm not measuring the light output :) ...

The time, if is displayed in the analog style (with dials) will not cause burn-in because the bright part of the image is moving around so one can use brighter clock hands for this.

This is the difference between active and dim mode, in my case, in most of the faces I'm using (active mode is set to brightness 2):
[LG G Watch R] Planins:
Hey guys I went out and bought this watch yesterday. Having seen it in person, I thought the display is stunning so I just went ahead and bought it. The watch face I absolutely loved from first sight is the default Club one. I used it the whole day yesterday and this morning as well, but upon opening Google Now a few minutes ago I saw that I have ghosting or burn-in, whatever the correct term is. I have used the watch for about 15 hours total in always-on mode. The dim mode are just those huge numbers in white, which I believe is causing the issue. I was planning to use the watch with that face for a long time and didn't really expect burn-in to be an issue. What would you advise me to do now, I want to be able to see the time at all times... Which of the stock faces is the best one to avoid burn-in and is yet similar to the Club one?
[LG G Watch R] dersie:
I think you must darker you screen when you are in dim mode. So with watchface with setup for brightness dim mode or try a new app "SWApp True Dark Wear"
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
You need to "break-in" the display as well. Similar to what is needed in plasma displays for TV's.

Try running "stuck pixel fixer" for few hours, with the display set to max brightness. That should help getting rid of the ghosting and also will "age" your pixels in order to be able to display static images w/o burning.
[LG G Watch R] Aidan Bell:
Thanks

I was directed to this thread after asking the same question elsewhere.

I'd just like to say I'm very grateful for the good advice given here, and as a result have set my watch to a lower brightness and will now not use always on display after all (which is a shame, I had wanted to do so, but thanks to the good advice here I see it's not a good idea).

I also share the dislike of people who respond to a question with a criticism of that question, rather than an attempt to answer it. That has always baffled and annoyed me on all forums. The point of asking a question is to seek an answer to that question, not to be told that you shouldn't be asking it in the first place!
[LG G Watch R] chrisnewton:
I'm going to use mine set to always off, I just hope this prevents burn in
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
Guys, there is no need to use it "always off". I'm using mine ONLY always on and there is not even the smallest trace of burn-in. But I did not jumped in the max brightness, lots of white dim mode face boat ...
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
My watchface ATM ... always on.
[LG G Watch R] ED2O9:
I can confirm this. The burn-in that I noticed occurred within the first three days of use. Since then, I'm not seeing it at all. It's like the new screen is a clean slate, so any face will generate temporary ghosting until the whole screen has been broken in. I recommend switching the faces frequently or running the pixel fixer a few times the first couple weeks. Beyond that, just use common sense about which faces you use and keep the brightness below 4.
[LG G Watch R] wintrxtrem:
That looks sweet. Possible to share it?
[LG G Watch R] Tonio78370:
Yep would like it too [emoji1]
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
Here you go ... it's a face for the watchmaker app (you have to extract it first and use the .watch file).
[LG G Watch R] flash3d:
Explorer, is it the correct zip?
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
I just checked it and it looks fine. You have to unzip it first.

The file is called MInimal2.watch which is zipped again. It cannot be used as is.
[LG G Watch R] RayHK:
Thanks for sharing your beautiful watchface.
[LG G Watch R] flash3d:
Got it working, moved the extracted folder to root of SD and then it worked.

Thanks
[LG G Watch R] cyrilp:
*!!! Save your pixels ! SWApp True Dark Wear now FREE !!!*

*!!! SWApp True Dark Wear now FREE !!!*

*Merry Christmas and Happy New Year from SWApps !*

As a XMas present, SWApp True Dark is now available for Free (and will stay free) on the play store !

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.preiss.swapps.truedarkwear

In case you haven't read any post regarding SWApp True Dark before, here is what it's bringing you:

*SWApp True Dark lets you darken your watch screen as much as you want it !*

*Darker means less Burn-In !!! *

see this post for more details:

https://plus.google.com/101149847908870195450/posts/MZP565ALsW9
[LG G Watch R] Tonio78370:
Magnificent app [emoji122]
[LG G Watch R] cyrilp:
Thanks!
[LG G Watch R] RayHK:
Great App. Thanks.
[LG G Watch R] atcchris:
The app seems to need what may be some unnecessary permissions…
[LG G Watch R] pelopicopata1969:
Thanks for de App!!!

Is very very good :good::good::good:

Happy New Year.
[LG G Watch R] cyrilp:
i will remove unnecessary permissions in next release.
[LG G Watch R] doubleohseven:
Received my G Watch R for Christmas. Did the screen "burn-in" using Stuck Pixel Fixer at max brightness for 4 hours, and i've tried various watch faces with always-on mode since then, brightness switched between 3-4. So far so good, no burn-in/ghosting to be seen.
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
The "Aviator" Watch Face has been updated with the new name "Skymaster". It now has as option, to remove the logo, customize the text and other features. Can't say I've used it long enough to see whether it would cause issues in its latest form.
[LG G Watch R] dersie:
I used SkyMaster 1 day (18H) and no problem. It has now a setup for dim mode to reduce brightness.
[LG G Watch R] atcchris:
What color/colors did you use with stuck pixel?
[LG G Watch R] RayHK:
I have been using Skymaster for over a week. So far so good.
[LG G Watch R] lowtje:
The skymaster is to pixelated for me :(
[LG G Watch R] gkinrade:
Hi all - first post! I'd like to know peoples' thoughts on this too - I picked my GWR up today and I love it and the Red face is my favourite of the stock faces but the dim mode contains a lot of white, fairly large, fairly bright elements. I've tried to post an image but the site won't let me yet...

Thanks in advance!

GK

Edit: Creating an album on here will let me post a piccy:
[LG G Watch R] doubleohseven:
All colors, without black.
[LG G Watch R] cswarrior:
Used Daytona for too long and when I changed the watch face I found this.

Any advices?
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Wait a few days and see if the burn in fades away.
[LG G Watch R] atcchris:
Hmmm. I haven't noticed any burn in on mine yet, but I haven't used that other face you were using.

I did see ghosting one time, but it faded out within a few seconds.

So, on another note, could you give me the link to that awesome white speedmaster face in your screenshot?
[LG G Watch R] cswarrior:
Thanks, will leave it for a few days and see,

I believe i found those watchfaces on the moto360 forums
[LG G Watch R] atcchris:
That's cool. I hope it does go away. Have you tried stuck pixel fixer yet?

Also, I've never used a watch face that didn't have a OLED friendly dim mode. I used the stock ones as kind of guidelines, but even a few of the stock ones seem risky.
[LG G Watch R] Hawke84:
If using the stock ones ends up with permanent screen burn in I think there's a pretty good case for RMA to LG for repair under warranty
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Totally agree with that!
[LG G Watch R] Planins:
I don't know where you are from, but it specifically says in the warranty of my watch that burn-in could happen and it is not covered by the warranty.

A rough translation:

"Do not show static images for a long time on the watch. It could lead to overheating or forming of marks on the display."

"Apps that show one and the same image for more than 10 minutes are not recommended, as possible screen damage is not covered under warranty."
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
The device has built in burn in protection that should work properly with the stock faces. So no image is static for 10 minutes. If stock is causing burn-in issues. Then LG should provide a replacement unit.
[LG G Watch R] cswarrior:
A few days later, it doesn't look as obvious but still noticeable.

And I've been using the stuck pixel app for the last few days
[LG G Watch R] atcchris:
Dang.... Hope mine doesn't do that.
[LG G Watch R] Hawke84:
Do you know if the facer or watch maker app also use burn in image shifting? I've not looked into it. I'm holding off using custom faces till I can be sure they are safe
[LG G Watch R] flash3d:
When the screen is in ambient mode, it will shift.

Whatever watchface is on.

Most watchfaces here are Oled friendly.
[LG G Watch R] Hawke84:
I'm not 100% sure that the link you provided are OLED friendly as some have heavy blue which will cause more burn in...
[LG G Watch R] flash3d:
Just install the app, most watchfaces there have a oled friendly ambient mode, currently using these from creator Tuwak.
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
I have seen the screen shift at times when using them. But, it is still best to not have a watch face with anything but small or faint areas that are bright or blue most of the time. Best no bright and no blue in standby.

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You can change the dim mode tint for items in any watch face with Facer or Watchmaker. So you can make them whatever you want. Most I use I have modified the dim mode colors to some degree.
[LG G Watch R] chrisnewton:
i have just started using custom watch faces on mine, but i have my watch set for the screen to go off completely, should this avoid the burn in issue? plus i change my watch face every day and am on brightness 1
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Nobody can guarantee you anything. But your odds may be good.
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
I think you are overprotecting your screen. It's a watch, use it like a watch. It is a physical object ... with time it will show signs of wear and tear. That will only add to the look :).

Seriously , I've been using always ON mode since day one (30 oct 2014) and there is no sign of burn-in whatsoever. The trick is to choose carefully the watchface and its settings in dim mode. Active mode doesn't really matters as long as you are not displaying the same picture longer than few minutes (my timeout is set at 10 seconds, btw).
[LG G Watch R] chrisnewton:
I'm not really protecting my watch I was never going to use always on anyway as I don't see the point... But I get what your saying
[LG G Watch R] aztekkakas:
Burn-in

I've just found this topic about the burn-in problem. I wanted to buy this watch so much, but now I'm not so sure about that anymore... :/ I had 2 Samsung phones with OLED screens and it bothered me quite a bit that I had to worry because using e.g.. Google Maps to navigate... (It could easily leave burn-in marks on the screen.) I usually sell my devices after about a year, but who would want to buy a watch with visible burn-in patterns? This problem is actually more interesting than it looks at first, because I've read some warnings about the Moto 360, too, although it has an LCD screen. Manufacturers definitely have to solve this somehow.
[LG G Watch R] Tonio78370:
Man stop worrying. I'm on my third Note and have the LG-R. No burn-in nowhere. Buy the stuff and have fun!
[LG G Watch R] aztekkakas:
SO YOLO! :D
[LG G Watch R] Hawke84:
So do you think this looks safe? My current face is similar to this buy always on

http://facerepo.com/app/faces/details/carrera-calibre-5-modified-14a91a4322d
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
It is definitely looking OK (I just downloaded it). The only "concern" would be in the middle, where is the thick circle.

Imagine the watch hands moving around all the time .. those will not cause burnin ... but the centre will always be there, like a small disk, always lit.

However, the brightness in the dim mode looks low enough not to harm the display. I would add a new circle shape, black 100%, over the center of the watch hands, only in dim mode.

However, you do realise that all this is pure speculation. I cannot afford to put my watch and test all these theories :).

Add-on: As a reference, this is my watchface style (I'm updating it slowly, as I see the oportunity :) ) for the past ~30 days (no burn-in effect seen):
[LG G Watch R] seavers11:
I use watchmaker, Intellicom and pujie black watchfaces. Did the shift in ambient mode work with all watches or just with the stock ones?

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[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
Pixel shift is a system function, it's independent of the watchface.
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Something I posted here earlier, but some may still need to read: Android Wear Burn-in Protection Explained!.

It could be disabled by watch face devs and/or on rooted devices. But the apps mentioned seem to use it from what I can tell.
[LG G Watch R] ro_explorer:
I read that in the second it was posted but you have to consider that disabling that protection requires ROOT.

We are not talking about rooted devices .. we are talking about stock ones. And stock, the pixel shift is, as I said, a system function, independent of the watchface used.

Once you go root, you acknowledge risks ... it is no longer "factory grade".
[LG G Watch R] Darnell_Chat_TN:
The article first list build.prop lines that could be removed to disable it. Then it gives later code relating to watch face Devs and offset settings. So, perhaps watch face makers could do it in their own code for an individual watch face.
[LG G Watch R] Hawke84:
[MENTION=3264227]ro_explorer[/MENTION] thank you for your advice. I know this is just your opinion but I welcome your opinion :) never thought about the dot in the middle. Stock faces don't have it filled dot in the middle on ambient mode so I might edit my chosen face now knowing that. Thanks again
[LG G Watch R] gizz68erz:
Well I just noticed it too.

I used the club standard watch face about a few weeks.
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