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[Sony Smartwatch 3] Joolz03:
Definitely interested! Pls post ur photos once u get it. How much does it cost?

Thank you for doing this!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] speedyg0nz:
Looks like this is the beta product on Shapeways by HL Design. Prices are between $10 - $14, excluding shipping (around $5 for shipping to US). As mentioned by HL Design, the item is currently in beta and might need further tweaking so caveat emptor.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] HL Design:
Thanks for that. I initially put it in beta for exactly that reason however I do not want people to waste their money so I will take it down until the final dimensions and tolerances are set/close.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] speedyg0nz:
Noted. And I appreciate the your openness so far on this matter. I look forward to the finalized design and will probably purchase 2-3 in different colors to swap around!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] HL Design:
I have uploaded the current model to sketchfab so people can spin it around and view the model. It does not currently have a separate button. I am thinking about a way to not need one. The FDM printed version allows me to just press the side (with sufficient forec) and it will press the button.

https://sketchfab.com/models/4f14ecb1047444edaaefa5f2a83a3193
[Sony Smartwatch 3] HL Design:
Hi everyone!

Apologies for the delay, it has been a busy few weeks. The first unit arrived and looked good but tolerances were to loose. I have updated the model to tighten everything up. It will remain in Beta as I have not ordered a new unit. Anyone that orders one and has feedback just let me know and I can update accordingly.

Another note, this is for a 24mm band! I can do a 20mm band as well if there is enough interest.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] duduke24:
Thanks for the pictures, looks great!

When you say the tolerances were too loose, what does that exactly mean? Does it hold the unit sufficiently and you just need to revise the design a bit?

I appreciate you taking the time to design this!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] HL Design:
[MENTION=6969997]duduke24[/MENTION]

The tolerances were too loose meaning it had to much movement within the holder, however it still stayed in quite comfortably. There was a lot of up and down movement which I am hoping has been tightened up as well.

As an example, if you look at the top image from my previous post you can see there is a to bigger gap around the screen. This is not a major issue but I have reduced that gap to ensure a more seamless appearance.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] duduke24:
[MENTION=6923803]HL Design[/MENTION]

Thanks! I'm going to go ahead an order one on shapeways and see how it works out. I'll let you know what I think on it when it arrives and I can test it out. I want it to be able to swap out for running, so should be able to give you a decent review on that.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] HL Design:
Awesome. And of course if you have feedback regarding fit etc let me know so I can update accordingly!

FYI this is the pin I referenced for the band attachment

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...liid=I2A6SHNZSLD7F8&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl
[Sony Smartwatch 3] kbboykin:
[MENTION=6923803]HL Design[/MENTION]. Thanks!!!! I just ordered one in black!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] yodaddyleo:
Looks awesome!! Question: I have a metal watch band I'd like to use with this. Do you think it would hold? The band would be much heavier and also won't have any back support. Any thoughts/ideas?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] senectus:
I made a snap decision and ought the black as well.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] HL Design:
The material that shapeways prints in is quite impressive. It is strong yet has a reasonable amount of flexibility. I don't think the weight would really be an issue but I can't say with any real certainty. A number of people have expressed interest in doing a version with a back on it as well so I may look into modelling that soon. Right now I just don't have the time.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] senectus:
What I really want is a charging stand... you slide the watch in and as you slide it in it holds that stupid plastic plug back :-p
[Sony Smartwatch 3] JavaGP:
Smooth-finish Holder

The beta holder that I received was a bit too loose. That wouldn't be so bad, except that it was too loose to hold the 24mm pins so I can't put a band on it. (Sorry. I don't have the creds yet to include a picture.)

Once the tolerances have been sufficiently tightened, what would it take to have a die or mold produced from the computer model that would have the same smooth surfaces of the computer renderings (and not the rough texture of the 3D printed prototypes)?

I am not a manufacturing engineer and have no expertise in this area, but I am thinking that if a single die or mold could be produced, you could produce any number of smooth finished holders in any color that the 3D printers can produce. I would guess that there are Chinese manufacturers who could do this cheaply.

Do you think that is a possibility or am I dreaming?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] deliriant:
if you guys had bought the adapter, please post the pictures. I am very interested to get one too. :D
[Sony Smartwatch 3] HL Design:
[MENTION=3391009]JavaGP[/MENTION]

Thanks for the feedback. You are the one person other than myself who bought it before I took it down to to change the tolerances. It should be a lot tighter now, same with the holes for the pins.

I am a product designer and what you are asking for is tooling. To tool even small parts like this will cost minimum $5,000. Then there is the cost of the first run product. Now this is possible but I certainly am not about to invest in that.

If you wanted to have a smooth finish you could sand it with find grit sandpaper OR sand then paint to get a silky smooth finish.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Joolz03:
Shapeways free shipping this weekend.

Just ordered one of these babies to try.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] deliriant:
i have ordered one too. it seems to be free international shipping so why not.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] cool-jet:
You can use the code T45TN until the 31/10/15 for free shipping, just order one today.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] sketron13:
Ordered one in black just now. Then saw your post...
[Sony Smartwatch 3] tigerfire25:
The code is working fine, thanks
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Joolz03:
Received my printed adapter today. Unfortunately, there is still tolerance issue. The width is too wide. Maybe about an mm off. Will take a picture and upload it tmr.

Otherwise it works fine. Thank you for the hard work!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Joolz03:
The gap at the width is about 0.5mm.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] duduke24:
Mine is off about that same amount, but the overall all quality of the holder is smoother than I was expecting. There is a little side to side play because of the gap, but the top to bottom is nice and snug. With it strapped to your wrist, there would likely be very little chance of it coming out. This was one of the original designs, so with the designer tightening up the tolerances, this should eliminate the side to side.

Great job [MENTION=6923803]HL Design[/MENTION]!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] HL Design:
Thanks guys. yes there are still tolerances issues and I am currently working on fixing it. The width issue is strange as the last measurement I took and the band CAD was accurate.

The work on the refined version is almost done. I just need a hand from someone as I no longer own a SW3! If someone has some vernier calipers could you please measure how far out the button protrudes from the body? I am not going to make a separate button rather make it a better fit left to right. In addition, for the person that takes measurements can you provide the width of the watch (screen). I already measured it but as people are providing feedback regarding width issues I want to confirm. I think it is getting pushed out due to the thin protruding lines which may not be necessary.

Thanks team!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] roakes:
I'll definitely buy one of these once the design has been finalised!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] D_JWhite:
Got my holder today, one of the original designs. I'm really quite please, especially as this is my first dalliance with 3D printing! Cheers OP!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] tigerfire25:
+1 hope it's done soon.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] D_JWhite:
I'm happy enough with the v1 version TBH
[Sony Smartwatch 3] tigerfire25:
Looks quite good in your pics, how is the material of this black version?

I am thinking between this black version and polished metallic plastic version.

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What colour version is that?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] D_JWhite:
As you can probably see, the material is a fairly rough texture but it contrasts nicely with the smoothness of the watch screen!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] JavaGP:
Beta HLDesign Holder from Shapeways with NATO Strap

[IMG="Purple Holder with NATO Strap"]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3uob9-YV0LM/Vh_W8sbCQYI/AAAAAAAABno/KGzjy4FUhzI/w426-h539/HLDesign_Purple.png[/IMG]

The Beta Holder is still slightly loose especially around the corners, but hardly noticeable. The pins now fit nicely and allow me to attach a NATO strap.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] twista49:
Impulse bought one of these, looking forward to seeing it. What pins do i need for this?

Thanks
[Sony Smartwatch 3] JavaGP:
I'm using the Swiss Reimagined 24mm X 1.8mm stainless steel spring bar pins available on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Spr...imagined+24mm+stainless+steel+spring+bar+pins

But I would think that any 24mm pins ought to work.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] hoodmulti:
Hi HLDesign, great work you got, I really want to buy from Shapeway, but may be I should buy after you've updated ?

When will you update the design at Shapeways?

Thanks!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] senectus:
Yeah wait. Current design has about a 1-2mm gap.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] HL Design:
Anyone able to help out with my earlier request? If someone lives in New York and would be willing to meet up so I can take the measurements I need to finish the model I'll give you one when its ready!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] tigerfire25:
Have already ordered one, unfortunately I don't live anywhere near New York.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] senectus:
Heh nope I'm in western Australia.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Joolz03:
I am in Singapore
[Sony Smartwatch 3] hoodmulti:
Is there a Sony store in new York where they have smartwatch 3 demo for you to try out? Because they have these kinda store here in Hk.

Cheers :)

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This one ? May be you can quickly take measurement there ?

https://www.google.com.hk/search?q=...ved=0CAgQ_AUoAmoVChMI64fk5-TUyAIVIuCmCh2Yigts
[Sony Smartwatch 3] hoodmulti:
May be you can check this out and do a quick measurement?

https://www.google.com.hk/search?q=...ChMIj-qSo4jVyAIVS5WUCh2_XgsH&biw=1133&bih=728
[Sony Smartwatch 3] D_JWhite:
Got a strap today, some more pictures.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] D_JWhite:
[MENTION=6923803]HL Design[/MENTION] would it be feasible to make the holder out of printed titanium?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] kbboykin:
I bought this, but I have a very small wrist for a guy and so far two bands from amazon ( one metal with all possible

Iinks removed) and a rubber one, just don't fit so I have not been able to use this adapter. Not wanting to keep buying bands.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] gbil:
So I got mine today and while a good try in general it is quite big and as others said doesn't fit 100%, slight wobbling but still noticeable enough.

I don't think I'll be using it.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Juicenorris:
Model?

Hey, I'm looking at getting an adapter for my sw3 as well. However, I wanted to make my own out of ninjaflex. Would you be willing to share your 3d model with me? I've got Autodesk Inventor so i can take about any model file. Thanks!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Joolz03:
Any updates on gap? Has the problem been fixed? Shapeways is offering free shipping till 8 Nov. Will like to get another one if the adapter gap has been fixed.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] davis620:
Finally received my Shapeways order.

After polishing, priming, and painting , the adapter gap will be negligible.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] amandreamartino:
Could you please post a photo?

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[Sony Smartwatch 3] Joolz03:
Please show how u did it. Thanks.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] HL Design:
It may be feasible but it will be very expensive and the design will have to change. The current design allows for some flex in the adapter to snap the watch into it.

As for an update for everyone else. A user has been kind enough to send me a SW3 with a broken screen to take the final measurements I need to make this as small as possible. It hasn't arrived yet (hoping today or Monday). Once it arrives the model will be updated. I will also put up adapters for a 20, 22 and 24mm strap.

I'll check back here to update everyone once it is finished.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] stumpy352:
Hi, I just got this watch & was looking around for straps & accessories. I've had a look at your model & wondered it it would make sense to take the measurements directly from the original rubber strap. It's reasonably small. All that would need adjustment is the area where the strap lugs would be located. Is this what you are planning to do?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] HL Design:
[MENTION=2363809]stympy[/MENTION]352 in essence, yest that is the idea. The difficulty doing it like that is measuring silicone is extremely difficult as it gives.

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Hi Everyone

I recently received a SW3 from a member to try help get this updated model ready for everyone. I have made the changes today and will do an internal 3D print at work tomorrow so I can check the tolerance around the screen. I have created a model for 20, 22 and 24mm straps. I will post back here tomorrow evening regarding the results and if it will be up then.

For reference, these pins should work just fine:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...liid=I2A6SHNZSLD7F8&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl

http://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Spr..._UL160_SR160,160_&refRID=17KWX72A766726MDWW1R

http://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Spr..._UL160_SR160,160_&refRID=17KWX72A766726MDWW1R
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Joolz03:
Any updates on this?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] tigerfire25:
Received my adapter sometime back but only today went and installed a strap on it, it's good that now I can have my watch in black, and am very grateful to the designer for his work.

I am looking forward for a version that is smaller then this one and supports 22 size straps, the current version is too huge for me to consider waring it more then 10 minutes I did today, but it does makes me happy that we can have more 3d designed adapters for different sizes of straps. Looking forward to buy more adapters in different colours if we can have them at a smaller size then the current one. Also a bit more premium material will be nice.

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[Sony Smartwatch 3] HL Design:
Hi everyone

I just ordered the new adapter from shapeways and I should be getting it in around 2-3 weeks. I have printed the update on my 3D printers at work and it seems a good fit but there are a few minor tolerances that I want to make sure are accurate (or close enough) through shapeways. Once I receive it and am happy with the results I will put it up for sale. This time I will have an adapter that will fit a 20, 22 and 24mm strap.

You can see the new model via this Sketchfab link https://skfb.ly/IMrK

I have significantly reduced the bulk around the hinge area and made it as short as seems appropriate. If it gets any shorter the hinge pin position will dig into the wrist.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] davis620:
Any Japanese speakers here?

If yes, could you verify availability of SWR510C Sony Smartwatch 3 adapter on rakuten.jp?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] TracerBullitt:
Hey guys, I have google notifications set for the smartwatch3 holder and just got this in the email: http://humster3d.com/2015/11/30/sony-smartwatch-3-swr50-brown/

Is this legit or am I missing something? For one, I don't see any pictures of the actual product. Also, I've been following how difficult its been to get the 3D printed models just right.

Basically, ...what am I looking at, lol
[Sony Smartwatch 3] stumpy352:
It seems they are asking $40usd for just the model, not a printed product.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] HL Design:
Alright everyone. I received the updated model and it is a much better fit, very tight around the display and I have minimized the size as much as possible. The radius around the display are just a tiny bit big however I have made very minor adjustment that should help with that. Also many people have asked for a button. I am not going to integrate a button into it but rather allow for the side to flex inwards to press the button. This model was a bit tight but I have increased the thin wall to allow for better flexibility.

I am uploading the files to Shapeways now for those who are interested! Sizes will be available for 20, 22 and 24mm straps.

Enjoy!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] mkid89:
Looks good! Instead of an actual button, perhaps just a small raised portion or a nub so it's easy to see where to press?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] tigerfire25:
Looking forward to buy some of these, please make a new thread for this where we can see the latest info about it in the op, and also give us link to that thread here, thanks.

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[Sony Smartwatch 3] JavaGP:
It looks great! Thank you for doing this.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] tigerfire25:
Any free shipping code for shapeways these days?

یہ پیغام Xperia Z3 سے بھیجا گیا
[Sony Smartwatch 3] davis620:
Would like to print the Shapeway's adapter in my choice of color/materials. How much to buy your file?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] fluidj:
I ordered a purple 20mm adapter for my wife. This thread is awesome! I didn't even know a thing such as shapeways even existed! I'll try to post up pics when it arrives...anticipated between Dec.29 - Jan.7 I believe.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Apb:
i ordered one myself and got it delivered today. However, when i wanted to put the watch in the frame (seemingly i did something wrong), the thin side on the button side cracked. Exactly where the material gets thinner. Maybe an idea to make it slightly less abrupt to go from thick to thin ?

i forgot to make picture, when broken, trying to glue it back with some nasty stuff :)
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Joolz03:
Shapeways.com free shipping only for today. Use code freeshipsat

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Just ordered a 22mm adapter for myself. Thanks hldesign.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Apb:
Assembly
[Sony Smartwatch 3] cadalu46:
Is there another free shipping code? I want to buy an adapter but the shipping for Italy is about 13€ :S...
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Joolz03:
The code is only for one day.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] tigerfire25:
Just wait and you will find a code for free delivery, just no code for now.

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[Sony Smartwatch 3] optiplus:
I´m waiting for free delivering code too, I want to buy 2 (black and withe)
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Seraph552:
A few photos of the holder

I just received my 24mm holder from shapeways. I bought the silver one and a metal shark mesh band. So far, I love it! Thought I would post a couple of photos for you guys to see what this one looks like with a metal band on what is a little bit bigger wrist than most pictures I've been able to find. This thing is great!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] pablo96:
Have been waiting on this too. Shapeways offers free shipping today for orders above 25 USD. Code is "SUNDAYSHIPPING"
[Sony Smartwatch 3] cadalu46:
I ordered 2 : 22mm black and blue. 32 euros
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Joolz03:
Brown leather 22mm strap with black 3d printed adapter
[Sony Smartwatch 3] cadalu46:
Not bad, I thought it was smooth.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Joolz03:
It's textured.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] cadalu46:
Is it easy to press the power button?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Joolz03:
No problem for me.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] naurog:
Do they do smooth version as well or just textured?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] ajprice:
I've ordered a watch with the black rubber strap. Will this 3D printed holder be adapted any more or is it the final design on Shapeways now?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Joolz03:
They have polished versions but I think the textured ones are nicer.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] cadalu46:
I have bought black polished and blue textured (or the inverse, I can't remember).. They look nice, the only thing I don't like is the little space in the right, but it's normal because of the button.

....

But are they waterproof?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] d11dog11:
Any chance you could post some more pics of the black one with the watch installed. . Maybe a few angles. Thanks
[Sony Smartwatch 3] cadalu46:
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Maybe if it was smooth it may look more beautiful, but, you know, this is the only way to get a "cheap" adapter and it is OK, I like it.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] JavaGP:
Very nice!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] gtdRR:
I ordered one 24mm adapter in Black Strong & Flexible and one 20mm adapter in Polished Metallic Plastic. My plan is to use the adapters with my old metal bands from the SW1 and SW2, unfortunately I received the black adapter in 22mm. Working with Shapeways to correct the issue.

Not sure how much I like the look of the polished metallic version but it's better than nothing (thanks Sony).
[Sony Smartwatch 3] ajprice:
gtdRR, that looks like its fitting around the button without a gap. Is the fitting on the black one the same?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] techtalkonline:
Am I the only one who thinks these look awful? Damn you Sony, where's the metal strap!!!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] gtdRR:
ajprice, the button side gap is still there on both of my adapters. Honestly though I don't think it's a big deal, you won't notice it unless you are trying to notice it.

techtalkonline, I agree with you but like I mentioned in my post above, it's better than nothing.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] AlexOB1:
Sony do seen to specialise in letting people down!

The original Sony one is painted to look like metal though, so perhaps one of you wants to try some metal effect spray paint?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] broderbluff:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xswr510c.TRS0&_nkw=swr510c&_sacat=0

here is the official sony smartwatch 3 holder for regular watch straps. Only released in japan.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] mattwang3:
My Shapeway 24mm adapter for Sony smartwatch 3

I ordered the Sony Smartwatch 3 adapter 24mm 2 months ago.

The shiping was on schedule. It's was fine when I first get it, my 24mm straps fit in perfectly. Everything as expected except one thing, the 3d printed texture it'd just too rough. So I decided to give it a new look. So I sand it, spray paint it and coated with lacquer. Happy with the result, you should try :)
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Apb:
Yeah, spot on , was playing with same idea in my head, didn't follow through yet. Now I see your result, gonna do similar. What lacker did you use ?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] mattwang3:
Some quick drying hi-build lacquer anti rust.

Any advice?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] mrbubba999:
Might be the pictures, but it looks quite naff
[Sony Smartwatch 3] mrbubba999:
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Might be the pictures, but it looks quite naff

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I'm glad someone else said this first :o

Sorry man, but it looks awful. That lacquer makes it look like it was painted with nail varnish.

If YOU like it, that's all that matters, it's your watch.

Nice cheeky little edit you did there :)
[Sony Smartwatch 3] moneytoo:
No blueprint for those wanting to print it themselves? :(
[Sony Smartwatch 3] D_JWhite:
Is there any way that the design could be modified to be turned into a nurse's fob watch? I'm thinking about something that could work with this. I'm due to start wearing a uniform soon and don't want to start wearing a dumb watch again.

Cheers!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] mattwang3:
nail varnish! That's just gave me an idea what to do next! Thanks!