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[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
Honestly, after seeing how bad Google and now T-Mobile botched the launch., it looks like VZW is doing the right thing. Wait to announce it until you can actually sell it to the masses.
[Nexus 6  General] htowngator:
Make sure you buy a device from the play store else it won't get activated.
[Nexus 6  General] akellar:
For now.
[Nexus 6  General] bwheelies:
I have service on Verizon so I am not scared.
[Nexus 6  General] pablomoca:
I purchased the 64GB N6 from the Motorola store and popped in my Verizon Nano Sim. Works perfect so far. I also took advantage of the 18 months no interest financing. I had just purchased the Droid Turbo, but that is definitely going back now.
[Nexus 6  General] air2k57:
Hi, could you tell me how your voice quality is on it? I too have a Nano Sim and am going to buy it at Tmobile tomorrow to use on VZW. Also, does your LTE work good?
[Nexus 6  General] pablomoca:
This is a speed test from today. Also the voice quality is very good. No complaints on my end or the other.
[Nexus 6  General] air2k57:
Thank you for that!
[Nexus 6  General] pablomoca:
No problem.
[Nexus 6  General] mjs2011:
Qq. If I currently have the Note 4 on Verizon, which uses a micro sim and I were to switch to the Nexus 6, how would I go about getting a nano sim?
[Nexus 6  General] akellar:
Scissors
[Nexus 6  General] pablomoca:
Apparently you can physically cut it down to size with scissors. I have also heard if you go in to verizon they might just give you one. My brother did that last one for a phone I gave him (an LG G2).
[Nexus 6  General] mjs2011:
Thanks! Yeah is rather not cut it and risk ruining the only sim I have
[Nexus 6  General] mjs2011:
Interesting. Looks like ebay sells nano sim cards too
[Nexus 6  General] kinfolk248:
Okay I was in the Vzw store the other day and they tried their best to get me off of my unlimited and convert to edge program. But why the @#$% would i pay more to get less... Is there something that im missing about edge? I mean from the way Im understanding their explanation, youre paying to lease the phone over 2 yrs then turn it in instead of paying to own the phone in 2 yrs...? Not that i would ever voluntarily forfeit my UDP, I just wanna know why so many ppl are going for edge...
[Nexus 6  General] TiltedAz:
The argument works if you aren't using much data but that doesn't say anything about the future where we will all be using more and more data.
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
Well, in our case we were only using around 4-6gb a month combined, so the difference between unlimited data and 10gb/mo was nothing.

Also we were adding a third line for a 13 yr old girl which meant texting was about to go through the roof. By the time we added unlimited texting to the old plan, and then added the upfront cost of 200 bucks for another top end smartphone.... Well.... The shared data plan gave us unlimited text and talk and it also has a $25/mo per smartphone bill credit for every phone financed through Edge.

So in the end we got what we needed, unlimited talk and text, and gave up what we didn't need, unlimited data, and got three brand new top tier smartphones and the payment for those is offset every month by the credit so it's like Verizon is paying off our new phones.

Plus the ability (at the time) to upgrade those phones every 12 months to the newest one without paying another 200 bucks each..... Now it's 18 months...

Besides.... What do you want with a smartphone that's 12-18 months old anyways? By then it's a piece of junk.
[Nexus 6  General] kinfolk248:
well first off after 12 months its not actually a piece of junk. Oems and carrier just stop support to 'force' ppl to get anew, but thats a whole other discussion....

Okay i can kinda see where it made sense but idk cus obviously you dont wanna lay down dollar for dollar your info in a public forum lol. Buttttttt, could you have just added your daughter as an addon and put text on it, which text is 'cheap' if not free via a downloadable app?

Oh and just a warning please dont go over your limit, I say that b/c your daughter might lol twitter, FB, IG, youtube, etc etc lol. Its $15/gig overage. When they told me that I was like wtf batman $15... smh
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
I dont mind. I pay, well we did pay 245/mo for three smartphones, 10gb shared data, unlimited talk and text and that includes having three brand new top end smartphones through Edge. Two Note 3's and an HTC One M8.

Verizon just reprised their shared data tiers. Now we get the same deal for 20 bucks a month less because the 10gb plan is 80/mo instead of 100/mo base rate.

When we compared adding the unlimited text, keeping unlimited data, separate plans, sharing 450 minutes, and then paying 200 bucks for her new phone and us keeping our old phones.... It was within like 4 dollars a month difference....

Just didn't make sense to hold on to unlimited data.

Also keep in mind when you go to a more everything shared data plan and get new devices on edge you drop the contract. So want to leave? Pay off the phones, and you are free to leave. But I'm not leaving Verizon service so that's a moot point for me.

We keep her on wifi, haven't gotten over 8gb a month and that was once... when she goes to friends houses she gets their wifi password... No worries.
[Nexus 6  General] kinfolk248:
see thats what im saying, youre still in a contract b/c you cant leave w/o paying for the phone lol. and on edge youre only leasing the phone b/c u have to turn it in after u pay the same as subsidized contract price... however at the expiration of a contract the phone is yours and your free, but on edge u paid to borrow the phone so youre left with nothing if u leave....

and 4 bucks is worth not having to worry with wifi, can i download this, can i watch this movie, can i tether right now and such, but thats just me... I wanna go to Tmo but they sux here, Red has it on lock for the most part here...
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
No, you own the phone on edge. Trading in is optional, not compulsory. Besides, with Verizon making the monthly payments it's not costing me anything. Right now I'm over 12 months into my edge agreement. I can keep it for another 11 months and it's mine free and clear, and not under a contract. Or I could have paid an extra 25 bucks a month and by now it would be paid for free and clear, mine to keep, and not on contract. I would have paid 350 bucks for a 700 phone had I done that.

Much better than paying 200 bucks and waiting 2 years to be free, and keeping unlimited data I won't use.

Who doesn't have wifi now? Home, work, grocery stores, coffee shops.... all "free" WiFi. We are home 99% of the time. The 10gb a month more than covers the time away from the house.
[Nexus 6  General] kinfolk248:
well maybe the store rep did a terrible job explaining it to me, cus youre saying something diff than what i was told in store...

and not everyone lives in a metropolis city and is always around wifi, which is why i say Red has things locked up for the most part here.
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
Yeah. They break the retail price into 24 monthly payments. Used to be at 12 months(or 50% paid) you had the OPTION to swap for the latest and greatest phone or not(now it's 18 months or 75% paid ) . Simply pay retail tax, hand over the phone, get new phone, walk out, and continue making the monthly payments (offset by VZW if you go to the more everything 10gb or higher shared plan) or..... you can keep the phone and pay it off over 24 months. Or you can pay it off early at your discretion.

I can only speak for my situation as far as wifi. But I use data at home, where there's wifi. I drive to work. Don't use phone while driving..... Get to work, have free WiFi there, drive to grocery store or school, wifi there..., drive home...

That's my day. There's always wifi where I use data.
[Nexus 6  General] kinfolk248:
oh ok cool, still no where near comparison to my unlimited in price and value. but if it works for you then go ahead. in my situation it isnt a good move...
[Nexus 6  General] EricDET:
I'm waiting on the Verizon model for EDGE as well. I have the 10GB plan. So I would pay $27 a month for the phone... BUT I also get a $25 discount on my 10GB Data for using EDGE. So $2 out of pocket for 24 months. $48. I'd be stupid to go anywhere else.

If you're unlimited I can see the concern.
[Nexus 6  General] Mrwirez:
Galaxy Nexus 2.0.

This is the exact same thing..

Look for a release around January 16, if I'm right. Vzw wants to push their bloated, locked, red, Droid Turbo.

I left vzw and wont be back.
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
Meh.... I don't mind waiting... I dont need to be the first guy on the block with a new phone. The longer they wait the less I'm interested honestly. By then we might have solid info on the 64bit capable 810 powered devices that will blow away these. They wait long enough I might skip the Nexus 6 altogether
[Nexus 6  General] tsy87:
The silver lining of verizon not selling this phone yet is they haven't pushed out any bloat to those who got their nexus 6 devices from google or moto.
[Nexus 6  General] Mistertac:
I just jumped ship from Verizon to Sprint and I'm on the unlimited everything plan for $60/Month no throttling or anything.

It's so great to be free from Verizon where I had to count my GBs every month and had to worry about getting root or an unlocked bootloader without shelling $6-700 for a Dev edition phone.

I know Sprints coverage may not be the best for some, but I'm lucky to live in a city where their speeds and coverage are just fine. No it's not Verizon speeds that's for sure.. But I'm free!!! Feels great
[Nexus 6  General] cr4ck3r4lif3:
Think again. Verizon's bloat installs when you set up the phone, just like AT&T.
[Nexus 6  General] tsy87:
Guess I got lucky cuz I don't have any vzw spam on my n6.
[Nexus 6  General] akellar:
No it doesn't, at least not at this point
[Nexus 6  General] TiltedAz:
The carriers have a good idea what the future holds and according to them unlimited data is a show stopper. On the bright side, Google is working on satellite based data and claim it will be broadband and less expensive. Hopefully it can be expanded to add some competition.

http://www.zdnet.com/google-to-launch-180-satellites-in-1bn-plan-to-cover-the-unwired-7000030095/
[Nexus 6  General] kinfolk248:
fingers crossed but that'll be years from now before we see trickle down effects of that...just gotta lay and wait basically. Hoping officially sells the Nexu6 cus i NEED a new phone, and it would be the only thing they'd sell worth me buying and rooting....I THINK!!
[Nexus 6  General] cr4ck3r4lif3:
That's weird. I wonder if it carried over from my S5. I had deleted those apps tho.
[Nexus 6  General] Milly7:
Must have carried over, depending on where you purchased. I don't have Verizon bloat running a T-Mobile purchased n6.
[Nexus 6  General] ame29:
I got a T-mobile 64 GB Blue Nexus 6 off of Craigslist this weekend. My wife has a Iphone 5c with a nano sim so I tested her sim card and it came right up on verizon's network. I was coming from a Note 3 so I had to trim down the sim to nano size. I eye-balled the cut with scissors and later realized you can get a template online. Oops! Seriously did a horrible job, but kept trimming away until it looked like it would fit in the sim slot. Well I got it in there and booted my nexus 6 right up. Perfect Verizon coverage with no bloatware at all. The ONLY way you know it is verizon, is by the upper left hand corner it says Verizon Wireless. I have had it running just fine for the last 4 days. In fact my 4G/signal has been consistently better than my note 3.
[Nexus 6  General] zidave:
I left verizon for At&t because verizon is dragging their feet.
[Nexus 6  General] das boot:
Maybe I have missed it somewhere along the way, but has Verizon released any kind of statement on the Nexus 6?? I don't understand the difficulty in letting their customers know if they will, or will not, be carrying/selling the Nexus 6 in stores. :(
[Nexus 6  General] akellar:
Not at all
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
Latest rumor tidbit I could find tonight.,.

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2014/12/nexus-6-for-verizon-rumored-for-13th-december-release/

Meanwhile I bought my daughter a iPhone 6 for xmas......because she wanted an iPod Touch 5g and I figured I might as well get her a phone if I'm gonna get a 200 dollar mp3 player...
[Nexus 6  General] kimdoocheol:
Very unlikely to be true.

Verizon usually releases on Thursdays and I believe the article States that.

As far as the turbo goes, it is ridiculous that people actually believe that. Verizon has the worst track record with phones that aren't exclusives and almost always get them last.

If they were so concerned with it, they would push out their phones even earlier because people will buy off contract in this instance to keep everybody happy.

The phones are peanuts to them, the fees and the contract is what they are truly after and is where they make the most money. I believe on the iPhones they were actually losing money on the phone themselves. I see this conversation in every phone that I ever want that comes to Verizon. Because of this phone, Verizon isn't releasing this phone! I think it is more that Verizon is one of the most stubborn when it comes to contracts and the most picky with what they want as far as software goes.
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
I agree. It's also at least a part of why their network is so good. They are the walmart of the cellular industry in terms of buying power. They can almost dictate what they want, and make their customers wait for it as long as they want, but people keep coming back for their service quality.
[Nexus 6  General] kimdoocheol:
Exactly. The logic is a bit flawed with people stating that it is because of the turbo that people aren't getting the nexus 6. The sales teams are always told to push their exclusive device because they market it more, have it in their contract, and also get a bigger margin on selling those phones.

To the average user, someone who is not tech savvy, like say my mom can be talked into almost any phone isn't going to say to the salesperson doesn't the nexus 6 have the same specs? Plus a lot of people will purely not get this phone because of the size.

Those things aside, from Verizons standpoint it isn't about how many phones they sell but about how many contracts they sign. If they hold off on the n6 they lose business period. But Verizon spends a lot of money on marketing, app placements, and locking down whatever they can so they don't have to deal with the bs associated with it.
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
No new news today I see...
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
Oh my word.....

https://bgr.com/2014/12/03/nexus-6-like-motorola-droid-phablet/

http://www.droidforums.net/threads/...t-with-snapdragon-810-exclusive-rumor.276917/
[Nexus 6  General] TiltedAz:
If the nexus 6 is $750-$800, that thing will be a small fortune. It'll need 64BG memory minimum and a monster battery.
[Nexus 6  General] kidruk:
Def a bummer for me. No fun in a phone that is locked down to all hell. Hence why we want the nexus lol. My hopes of this phone coming are slowly diminishing.
[Nexus 6  General] tsy87:
lollll

This makes a lot of sense as to why vzw has been so silent on the nexus front...
[Nexus 6  General] rgraville:
Wait... Does the Note4 Dev edition have a locked bootloader? The locked bootloader is why I did not upgrade from my S3 to an S5 when my son got his S5. It is also why I dismissed the Note4 when considering the Nexus 6.

If the Dev edition Note 4 has an unlocked bootloader, and I am already considering paying full price for a Nexus 6, then the Note 4 option comes back on the table...
[Nexus 6  General] mjs2011:
So if they announce that new phone in place of the Nexus, do you think that would affect any of us using a Verizon Sim in the Nexus 6?
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
Yes. I assume you mean UNLOCKED bootloader...

The Dev Edition Samsung always have an unlocked bootloader. However being active in the Verizon Note 3 forum.... looking at the development for the dev edition phone.... It was horrible. Even today go look, there's only a few items. The problem is any kernel or rom made using the dev edition can't be used on the other carrier devices. Only on other dev edition phones. Also the large amount of development happening on the carrier devices could not be used, at least in whole, on the dev edition. That's what makes the Nexus 6 superior in terms of development. Pretty much every kernel, rom, etc can be shared across all of them bringing in a massive amount of developers and great options.

So if you develop using dev edition, you can only share with dev edition owners. And if you are an end user you can only use things developed for the dev edition. It's really kinda pointless to get a dev edition phone unless all the carrier models are also unlock able.
[Nexus 6  General] kimdoocheol:
Definitely this. I made a comment about this in the N4 section.

The same thing that happened to the N3 happened to the N4. Having two variations for one phone ends up causing a lot of split in the community. People will buy the DE because they easily can achieve root, and right now for the N4 this is the only way and many of chainfire's methods require an unlocked bootloader. If this is the case, and no other fix is found, most likely you will never get root past lollipop on a retail version. The split in the community comes from people buying the DE thinking they are set, and then there are people who don't want to shell out 700+ for a phone (me included, since even though I have UDP, there are still ways to negate losing this via upgrades.)

Right now, there is a bounty going on for root, but as you know the money cannot be collected upfront and is just based off of good faith. TW isn't as bad as many make it out to be, as most people do not really care about having CM/PA/AOSP and just use the phone for what it is. I doubt anything will ever become of it and there doesn't seem to be too much interest as far as Devs go. Most of the roms that will come out will be simple anyways, like a clean based rom or one that gives you extra toggles/change some features. Overall the base usually stays relatively the same. People who really want an AOSP rom will find their way to the N6 for sure, and that is why I am here. There will be tons of dev for this phone simply because of the unlocked bootloader and ability to use on the carriers who lock it. If this phone was locked on VZW/AT&T I think we should see a lot more deliberation between the two phones. It is pretty much this, do you like TW or AOSP and do you want root or can you live w/o it?

I answered AOSP/want root, so that is why I decided on the N6. Ordered my N4 and wil return if announced on VZW or sell it on craigslist for a profit to buy it on GPS. If something better comes out for VZW, I would just sell the N6. The N6 is too similar to the note series, and that is the only reason I am trying to come over.
[Nexus 6  General] rgraville:
Thank you guys. That answered my questions and puts me back in the Nexus 6 camp. I don't mind TouchWiz. I have an S3 with an unlocked bootloader but keep the TouchWiz build so I can use MHL. I could live with a locked bootloader if I needed to on a Note4, but I could not go without root. So if root does not appear to be obtainable on the N4, byebye Samsung, hello Motorola. Now if I could just get my hands on one.
[Nexus 6  General] wtherrell:
Yes but not as likely much development for it.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blazingmods:
So today I was texting and realized that I now have to select the "split long messages" box on the texting app that I've always been using, textra, to send long text messages. Now the person I am in a conversation with receives more that one messages depending on how long the message is instead of just receiving one long message. Since I started using the note 4 I never had to do this and I appreciated it so much because my last phone made me do that to send messages period. Splitting messages just annoys me and I'm wondering why now I all of a sudden have to do that. Does anyone have any ideas why this is happening or how to fix it? I did revert back to the original messaging app but it was doing the same thing, I also barely used the original messaging app because I downloaded textra as soon as I began using the N4.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] hakanos:
Hi Guys,

I have searched the forum, but no solution for my problem. I had a dutch htc 3300. My device is not unlocked. I have tried to flash the pdamobiz rom to my device and since can`t get by the splash screen. STUPID!!! I can get into the bootloader but I need the original dutch rom to flash. Can anybody upload please? Cannot do anything with it now.

If I am right, there is no way to unlock the device in this situation!?!

Any suggestions?

thanks
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] mcage:
Exact same issue a couple of hours ago.. see my Help Desperate post below this one.. it worked for me.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] hakanos:
how

What exactly did you do? I did not understand your thread. How did you unlock your device?

What is meant by this:

not your flashing one, but clean bootloader, by hardreset followed by record and reset

thanks
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] hakanos:
Wait

Hi Guys,

Is there not a solution? Do I have to wait for HTC to release a dutch rom upgrade? I still don`t understand why the Pdabiz rom killed my device?

Please help me out

thanks
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] mcage:
That refers to the flashing Tmobile boot screen that shows and stays.. it wouldn't boot any further.

If you press record (left top side of your device, small button above the volume slider) and hold this while pressing reset you will get into the real bootloader mode (a tri-colour screen) that allows you to do a USB connect.

Now go to: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_Upgrades

and download the following ROM for your T-Mobile device:

T-Mobile English T-MOB005 ARTE***** 1.13.110.1 9/22/06 1.13.110.101 1.13.0000 02.49.90 4.1.13.25 (direct link: ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.co...pdates/art_tmouk_11311001_024990_wwe_ship.exe)

Just run this exe while in that bootloader (tri-colour) mode.

Good luck, that did it for me.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] hakanos:
Not T-mobile

Hi,

Thanks for your reply. But my device is not T-mobile branded. It is a original HTC.

Tried your method but does not work.

Will have to find someone with a dutch rom I think

I am out of ideas
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] Pyth:
*bump

I have the same problem.. I can get into bootloader screen, but I can't find a T-Mobile ROM to flash.

Anyone with a working link to a T-Mobile ROM? The link was removed from this page..

Thnx
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] grun:
What language was your original T-Mobile in? I presume Dutch since you live in Holland. Unless you had your phone unlocked before you tried to flash it, you can only restore the same ROM. Unfortunately there is no Dutch ROM as far as I know.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] Pyth:
So how did you solve it? Thought you had this problem 2 months ago..

And yes the original language was Dutch..

Im contacting T-Mobile right now, and they should have a NL version but the site is down atm.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] grun:
Personally I never tried to flash my phone, maybe you read an answer from me to someone with a similar problem.

T-Mobile can provide you with the correct ROM, but I don't think it can be found at their site. Well, it was not there last time I looked anyway.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] Pyth:
Hmm you were right.. it was somebody else.

The ROM should be avaible @ http://www.t-mobile.nl/software but that site isn't working at the moment. They told me that the only thing I could do now, is going to a T-Mobile shop and let them send it for a fix.

So my hopes are on a PM that I send to the author of this post. Perhaps he's able to give me the original ROM.