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[RAZR HD Android Development] amedeh123:
WTF

I flashed it and its awesome. No bugs, no "calc bug", no nothing for me as of yet. Just need to adjust DPI/density for the xt925.

Seriously wtf, how we didnt know about this before.

As a bonus heres a screenshot of multiwindow in action (it reports as a Razr M but its a Razr HD):

[IMG="rzr"]https://i.imgur.com/i9nXbaZ.png[/IMG]

Its worth it to downgrade from KKBL to JBBL just for this, if you have time. This Razr M JBBL build works perfect on the Razr HD :D
[RAZR HD Android Development] mauchito:
So you have the link? It's not working for me, it appears to be down. I will try on an Atrix HD and report back. It should work too.
[RAZR HD Android Development] dabanhfreak:
Copy/past from Q&A section to see if I get better response.

I can't seem to flash CM12.1 151007 Snapshot, despite having received the OTA 4.4.2

Originally, I was on stock 4.4.2 AU, then did some reading, so I flashed Stock RTFR (Retail France/Central Europe), and allowed it to receive the KK OTA. I assume this would give me the KKBL, but no luck.

Every time I go into TWRP to flash 12.1, I get the message "this package is for devices with 4.4 bootloader"

As you can imagine, I'm rather confused.... my partner had been running this phone on stock for 2 years so I haven't kept up with forum posts. Have I missed something?

I read something about Orphee's mod that I can flash, but those Mega links were posted 2 years ago and are down. Google searched this to death.

EDIT: Because I had problems with RSDlite on Windows 10, I flashed stock firmware manually using mfastboot. I flashed partition and tz manually, which I read might be a problem (but I don't understand why). Can someone clarify?
[RAZR HD Android Development] niton:
Bluetooth is not working well, it's sad for me, as I use my xt926 in my car everyday, but it's really working good

Another link for CM13 port
[RAZR HD Android Development] amedeh123:
I dont use BT a lot, but the rest seems to be working perfect. Even SIMCARD and GPS issues seems to have been gone. I havent used a ROM this bugfree since about mid-2015, when cm12.1 was still good.

CM13 -> https://yadi.sk/d/MeTqtA-oqpQR4

Compatible Recovery -> https://yadi.sk/d/7VZCjfiRqnux5

Both are made for the Razr M, but will work on the Razr HD

EDIT: You MUST be downgraded to JBBL for this to work at all
[RAZR HD Android Development] dedik46:
How to downgrade from kk to jb?
[RAZR HD Android Development] mauchito:
Thanks, I just tried it but cannot install because, since the DPI is different, the touch points are not the same. Tried on another recovery but didn't worked.

Any idea on how can I make an special TWRP only modifying the DPI?
[RAZR HD Android Development] ibaxx:
To sad... I Figuren out, i am on kkbl... Any hope?

Gesendet von meinem DROID RAZR HD mit Tapatalk
[RAZR HD Android Development] Thibault1171:
Hi, I plan to change my old laggy RAZR HD soon.

I'll may buy a Moto X Play, or look at my carrer if I can get a coupon on a phone.

Here is my carrer's website, I don't know which phone is worth it. I was interested by Samsung A3 and A5 2016, Sony XPERIA Z5 Compact, LG G4, Huawei P8 Lite (or maybe something else)

Can anyone have a look and help me please?

Thanks :)
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
Looks like the keeners couldn't wait :)

Enjoy your CM13 port, I'll be here working on the real thing.

Secondly, I don't know XDA rules for linking to other sites but the russian 4pda has caused members problems in the past.

Running a xt907 ROM on a non-xt907 *AND* having to downgrade to JBBL... wow, sounds like a heckuva deal to me! ;)

EDIT: Oh, I don't know what user said CM12.1 JBBL doesn't have SIM issues but neither does the KKBL version. You may have issues, most of us don't.
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
Not sure how it works in France but my wife recently picked up a new Moto G (titan) unlocked for $200 from Staples (retail store). Popped her SIM from her old Xperia T into it and off she went. When I decide to upgrade, I'll probably go the same route (rather than through carrier).

Either way, the point I'm trying to make is if at all possible, don't buy it through your carrier. Again, if France is anything like North America, you'll end up paying 2-3x the price of the device by the time your contract/etc is over. My RazrHD was purchased through Rogers (had a HTC Evo3D before it) and I finally finished my contract a little over a month ago; taking into account the original $500 price tag on this phone, I ended up paying closer to $900 for the phone through my carrier. Of course, you don't see this in black and white, you'll have to do the calculation yourself.
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
You may be hooped. If you had 4.4.2 AU then you're as current as Moto got for this device. Switching to another region may have been what did you in. Flashing over the TZ+Partition partition isn't good. Orphee's mod was pre-4.4.2 OTA (was a OTA soak from Moto) and no longer relevant.

My suggestion would be to flash back to stock 4.4.2 AU (if you can), ensure your bootloader is unlocked (guessing it is) and then try wiping the device and flashing the CM12.1 snapshot.

Head over to the XT925 KK OTA thread, I covered this quite a bit. I think I might have also linked to it in the OP.
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
See OP and advice I gave another user. Downgrading to JBBL is a step backwards.
[RAZR HD Android Development] niton:
JBBL don't have problems with SIM card and Instagram video sharig,

wrote it a month ago, I also wrote you private message about this firmware, but you don't answer,

Its sad for me, as I really think msm8960 jbbl firmwares are most stable

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You need to flash original JB firmware (RSD Lite+stock firmware),

ofcourse you loose all personal data on you phone, but your phone will be ready to flash CM13 port

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can you please explain this?

just because nobody makes firmwares on jbbl kernel?
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
JBBL devices were never supposed to have L or M. To make it work on JBBL, quite a lot of source hackery and workarounds had to be done.

As for SIM+Instagram; the only SIM "problems" KKBL builds have is the disconnect between rild and the telephony stack (for lack of better words) which was discovered early on in CM12. The easiest way to resolve this issue is to HUP rild or reboot. I can reboot my device 10 times and maybe 1-2 times I may have to restart rild. For custom firmware, it's a minor bump in the rug. Pretty sure there's an instagram workaround in the OP as I recall this coming up before (does anyone actually bother to read it or just jump in?)

Everyone wants M so badly they're willing to downgrade their phone (and the risks involved in botching that) to try a port. What's worse, using a recovery that appears to not be designed for the device as well. I see nothing good coming from it other than it gives people a chance to try M (sort of) until either myself and some other person actually gets CM13 building properly (which is what I'm doing).
[RAZR HD Android Development] niton:
OK, thanks

But, JBBL kernelis not supposed to have L or M, but it works :)

My xt926 looses sim card if FC appears, so I don't know if its works well untill I'll take the phone from my pocket, to check.

Aroind 18 months has passed since first cm12 build was made, but where is no 100% fully and properly working firmware.

That is why a mentioned this port,

because it's looks like better even every kkbl firmware on all points of view.

Maybe it's not a stepback, maybe we need to get the last stable build(kernel) and try to apply the experience you reach in kkbl to made new level firmware?

joking apart....could you try to made jbbl cm12 or adapt xt907 port to our device?
[RAZR HD Android Development] Thibault1171:
We also have retail store (but I think website such as Amazon are cheaper).

I don't know, I think it cost twice more the price of the phone here too. It's just in case they offer me a huge discount on a potentially good phone.
[RAZR HD Android Development] amedeh123:
If you guys are not comfortable/familiar with downgrading and run kkbl cm12 perfectly, I would advise against it. You could brick the phone.

KKBL deviecs also werent supposed to have L or M. I bet there are still workarounds to make it work.

And its not really about having the latest ROM for me personally (not much is changed between L and M anyway). Its more about stability. KKBL cm12 has been too buggy for far too long, and SIM issues caused me problems more than once while on the go. And not even talking about the other annoying issues.

Yes, this M build is FAR from ideal from a technical standpoint and has some rough edges now that I have been using it for a while, but it works way better than the "ideal" cm12.

That said I might try a jbbl cm12 build to daily. And well, that may be just me.

Only reason I dont go back to stock at this point is because of the power button remap feature on CM, since mine isnt reliable anymore.

EDIT: SIM issues are so bad sometimes that Id rather use airplane mode at home, so it wont suck all my battery trying to reconnect to the network. Restarting rild/rebooting wont solve the issue in a permanent/reliable way. Other times I can use my phone normally all day, but I cant have something so important be that unreliable.

Also I have spotty coverage and this seems to make it that much worse when Im on bad areas.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Thibault1171:
Isn't it possible to "port" RAZR M jbbl build to RAZR HD kkbl?

It'll be a lot easier and less risky.
[RAZR HD Android Development] niton:
you have a lot kkbl builds, the main idea - to use jbbl, as it most stable, better signal strenght, better battery life.

As for me, it's would be better to "port" latest RAZR HD kkbl on 3.0 kernel (jbbl kernel)

Or adapr port to RAZR HD
[RAZR HD Android Development] ibaxx:
Hi,

i have this sim issues too....

Since i am on your build i gut this issue only two times... Before 7 times a day!

By the way i have also disassambled the Phone and fixes the Mainboard most possible to the right... Now the sim tray has minimal flex in its spare out

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Hey,

i know that i could Brick my phone!

The fact that i ask is, that i thought that the recent bootloader Version ist downgradeable...

I thought unlocking and downgrading this are two things.

Another question: did i unterstand right, the bootloader is the kernel?

I thought a bootloader is something Luke grub on Linux?

And the kernel is in the rom?
[RAZR HD Android Development] amedeh123:
What did you do to the sim tray?

Also, to downgrade you simply RSD it back to JB. There are some tricks to make it work, those are described in the OP.

The bootloader sorta is the kernel, you can boot a different, newer kernel with newer libs when you are on kkbl.

Problem is, jbbl seems to have better suport because more devices are stuck on it. It doesnt mean much to have newer stuff, if its implementation is buggy.
[RAZR HD Android Development] ibaxx:
Not easy to explain for me on englisch...

I have loosen all screws on the mainboard. Then put in a plastic spacer in the gap between mainboard and housing on the left side, near the sim slot.

Now the sim tray sits more in place and it did Not wiggle when your Finger get on it
[RAZR HD Android Development] dabanhfreak:
Thanks. The only zip files I can find are 4.1.2 JB stock, so will that make a difference?

What I'm saying is that it undergoes a regular OTA (without problems) to 4.4.2; I then flash TWRP and flash the snapshot, but then it says I don't have the bootloader.

If I flash 4.1.2 again, do you have a mod file I can flash to fix this? (all the links I see are broken)
[RAZR HD Android Development] OGdroidster:
4.4.2 is kit kat and 4.1.2 is jelly bean. Are you sure you don't have the JBBL. If you are sure you have the KKBL then try TWRP 2.8.6.0 If you need it i can give you link. Also I have the cfc version of the last update build to this device.
[RAZR HD Android Development] ibaxx:
I dont know, but today i had no sim problems yet... Maybe that was the fix for me
[RAZR HD Android Development] dedik46:
I should say that cm13 jb is more stable than cm12.1 there is a lot different and to bad that i install the rom for razr m on my xt926 and i hope "C" could solve the kernel problem soon..

I have xt926 ubl change lcd density to 320 and i try method from droidrzr forum..i use flashback to jellybean on twrp to downgrade to jellybean wipe everything including format internal memory and flash port cm13 razr m and use opengapps nano...and now i have cm13 razr m on my hd
[RAZR HD Android Development] niksy+:
This is 100% subjective information provided here... I have the best battery life I've ever had with my Maxx on the current CM12.1 kkbl builds, for example. Please refrain from posts like these... The kernel that's tied to the jbbl versions of ROMs is more outdated and couldn't possibly be the better choice.

Guys, please, if you want to discuss this CM13 port somewhere - create a new thread for it :)
[RAZR HD Android Development] niton:
Nothing to discuss, everything is working well.

Its just one of the best firmwares on xt926 I ever seen

(it would be subjective if I say it's the best :) )
[RAZR HD Android Development] amedeh123:
Newer does not necessarily mean better, I mean even official KK is more buggy (eg audio clicks) and rushed than official JB, many other devices have similar trends.

Not saying jbbl > kkbl (the opposite is probably true), but there seems to be something causing those jbbl builds to be better than current kkbl builds for SOME people.
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
And they are the minority. I was trying to avoid this angle here but it appears that I'm going to have to tip the boat and get everyone wet.

Granted, in some cases, the signal from SOME operators may be so terrible the entire phone suffers as a result and magically (with fairies and unicorns and bits of willow fluff flowing through the air with Tom Cruise running hand-in-hand with Mia Sara) a new build makes it all go away. It's entirely possible the JB rild+stack works better in SOME countries than the KKBL version. Not even sure all RHD users worldwide got the KK OTA as I've seen some users scrambling to find the bits for another region they can flash. It was once pointed out to me by a very smart man in this forum the differences between regions and radio technologies and why some parts work OK and others not so much.

People like myself like data, numbers, plots and graphs. Reproducible results. If you can't quantify your findings and just say "wow, this is the best thing since sliced bread", well, that's opinion not fact. This is like hearing people say "Aww, this ROM sucks because XYZ" only to find out they're running Xposed (for example).

I literally (and by that, I mean literally literal) have zero issues. No radio problems. No GPS problems. Nothing. It works like it should. I can get 3-4 days of battery if I just leave my phone lying around idling, 2 days otherwise.

The only other conclusion I can come to is some people treat their devices like my wife does. Disposable. Meaning they don't take care of it, dropping it, hitting and slamming it in frustration, leaving it sitting in the sun to bake, leaving it outside in her vehicle in -30C weather, etc. If you're one of these people, my arguments fall on deaf ears and you're off to get a new device soon :)

Anyways, I had a point and ended up rambling... Just my two bits.
[RAZR HD Android Development] ibaxx:
I have run my phone the last days without the sim error again! I think the disassambling did the trick!

Pressed a opening Tool in and fix all screws again... Now the sim tray is Not wiggling anymore
[RAZR HD Android Development] drkdeath5000:
Just wondering did anyone ever figure out the slight stuttering when playing HD videos on youtube?
[RAZR HD Android Development] niton:
Its not thу magic, it's 3 years of expluatation of my device, it's technicaly fully working and I don't need to change my phone on something new.

I just found, that my phone works better on jbbl, using stock firmwares, and then I'm looking for custom firmwares, based on jbbl.

I am grateful for your work and I think you have much more experince in developing on RAZR HD as anybody else

Еverything that I have written - only mine supervision.

PS Nobody wrote anything bad about CM13 port working yet...
[RAZR HD Android Development] amedeh123:
I dont think anyone ever said that those issues affect the majority. And no, no "magical fairy build" solves the issue, this jbbl (that is inherently different than kkbl, hell its even made for a different device) build I am using is the first in months that work witout issue, going through the same use cases as before.

Also you seem to think we destroy our devices somehow? My phone is unscratched and I can take pics to show everyone that. And no, my device isnt disposable, I cannot afford to buy new stuff every year, and I believe most people here still uses this old device for this very reason. As I have said before, I dont run ANY 3rd party stuff like xposed, and have tested builds without installing a single app or changing ANY settings and STILL having the issues.

The same way you say you literally have no issues, I can say I (and some other people here) literally do. That doesnt make anything more or less objective.

All that said, I dont expect ANYONE to fix ANYTHING for me. Im using an unnoficial ROM, provided for free, at my own risk, and am merely reporting my issues and/or how I managed to fix them. Maybe asking for help from those also experiencing this.

What bothers me here, and inspired me to write this rant is the fact that this minority of people found a solution to their problems too, but other people seems to think we had them because we were stupid on the first place, or that they doesnt exist. As you said yourself, there may be differences between devices that can cause this, and the fact that some people cannot reproduce those issues doesnt mean they dont exist. Or that using another kind of ROM cannot be better or just means we just want CM13 ASAP.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Thibault1171:
Hi, if anyone is interested, the OPPO F1 is 159€
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
I don't experience this either. Even 60fps YouTube videos work properly for me.
[RAZR HD Android Development] drkdeath5000:
So nobody else is experiencing video freezing for a couple seconds or audio briefly stuttering on Youtube videos?

I just presumed it was everyone because i remember it mentioned briefly on here.

Now i know its just me i will try uninstalling messenger and facebook to see if it helps.

Thanks
[RAZR HD Android Development] amedeh123:
I had this issue on cm12.1

Videos would freeze for a couple seconds, but audio would still play, especially when seeking.

Dunno if it was related to any apps though, but it wasnt so bad.
[RAZR HD Android Development] drkdeath5000:
Thats exactly it! Video will freeze for a couple seconds, but most of the time audio continues to play.

I might here a brief crackle on the audio every few seconds which is what i would describe as audio stutter.

Its strange because it doesnt always happen, sometimes i can watch youtube without any freezing at all, other times it will start off freezing and gradually gets better while i'm watching.

Its nothing major and still perfectly watchable, just a tad annoying.
[RAZR HD Android Development] dedik46:
I think we won't get cm13
[RAZR HD Android Development] ibaxx:
Maybe... But this happened because some guys discussed too many that roms for other devices are working better than the roms c is compiling for our device!

I think c is making a great job!

His rom versions in his signature are working better than the ones from cyanogen for me!

I hope that c get some distance from the discussions the last days and is looking to compile cm13...

We have to wait and looking forward!

Cm12 is great! There are only some low memory enhancements on cm13 that are great for us!
[RAZR HD Android Development] dedik46:
Maybe they need something new to discuss and new experience on cm13 so they, even my self very excited about that.

it would be great news if our device will get cm13 even thats only porting...hoping that 'C or kabaldan or someone who mantain this device will bring cm13 to our device soon.

Our device is not bad at all and the performance still good, this forum need something new to discuss, android N is arrive and maybe cm13.1 or cm14 will come out, so sad that our device just stuck on cm12.1
[RAZR HD Android Development] ibaxx:
Not even all devices where marshmallow is confirmed got the update yet by the manufacturer. Why do you think that the community is faster than them?

Android 5.1 still gets updates by Google. It is not old and we don't have a rotten device that stucks on an old rom.

C maintaining this device in his free time. And the last days he still earned hate for the words that a rom for another device isn't the big thing for us.

Still wait and dont promote that he should still still leave cm12 and work forward...

He did a great job in the past
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Don't desire for M too much. M should have version number max to 5.2. Looks like LP, works like LP, has some new features, has doze but whatever someone tell you not really big difference... And yeah, 6.0.1 has more emojis :D

Sent by Android 6.0.1 user ;)
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
For now, my efforts are delayed as I'm working out on my grandparents farm (they're too old to farm now) and the planting season is here. I haven't stopped, just put aside for now.

PS: My wife has M on her Moto G (titan) and Z is right, a few new things here and there but overall, you're hard pressed to see anything really new.
[RAZR HD Android Development] amedeh123:
Its NOT hate. We were just commenting about something that worked better for us. No reason to interpret this as hate.

That said, I understand the tone can be misinterpreted from written forum posts and apologize on my or anyone elses behalf for coming off that way. Lets end this now because its counter productive for eveyone here.
[RAZR HD Android Development] RMarques:
Can you direct me to the link man on droidrzr forum man? Can't find it.
[RAZR HD Android Development] ibaxx:
It is not on Droidrazr it is on 4pda... A Russian forum
[RAZR HD Android Development] RMarques:
I did flashed TWRP and it seems to be working ok.

I did format everything like 3 times but I'm getting error 7 while flashing the ROM. I thought that maybe there was anything elsewhere that could help me achieving that like you did!
[RAZR HD Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
Here I go interloping in this thread again although the common aspect that compelled me to reply is that I agree with Z's assessment of L vs M. Also, IMO doze is overrated, offers a backdoor that might later be abused to allow higher power consumption particularly by Boogle services, and I dont see how it could save battery life under my usage scenario.
[RAZR HD Android Development] ibaxx:
I am on Kkbl... Ich I can't flash... Ich I am still on cm12
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Doze could save battery over night and could freeze background apps. And M could funnel notifications and communications for all apps trough play service (you made good point about backdoor ;). All that iOS is doing from the beginning (afaik). That's theory. Practice, not really. Or could be that I already get used to M.
[RAZR HD Android Development] RMarques:
JBBL latest TWRP.zip

Does anyone have a link?

I've just found .img and the OP link seems to be broken.
[RAZR HD Android Development] amedeh123:
Does anyone know if there are complete stock KK system images available to flash?

And does anybody have a mirror for the ROGERS JB sbf?