yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
Z and I are currently testing things to mitigate this fact. It won't make it into 5.1 but it definitely makes 5.0.2 the way it should have been. I'm not 100% comfortable publishing any findings yet but I will take on more guinea pigs :)
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
He's mentioned that 20150320, so I'm waiting for that ;)

Those things make phone really works much, much better. Look, even is showing 5.1 in about! :D
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
I'm compiling 03-23 right now ;) Did you hack your build.prop to read 5.1? I was running 03-20 and it's definitely 5.0.2 :D
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Yeah, but don't tell anyone :D
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
Still looking for guinea pigs... ;)
[RAZR HD Android Development] niksy+:
May I join? I'd like to flash something tonight (6pm here) but currently don't know what to go for... Feel free to PM me if I seem an okay guy :cyclops:
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
One pig on the wing is not enough for you? :D
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
Need two wings to fly ;)
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
In the case that someone doesn't understand what we're talking about, good old psychedelic :)

https://youtu.be/gOqblSqx_VI
[RAZR HD Android Development] KC69:
Not if you want to fly in a circle......LOL. Build one for a 926 so I can play too. Currently on Nobe s aosp ROM and it is running circles around cm12. Easily twice as fast.
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
Totally missed the Floyd reference... :silly:

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AOSP tends to always be faster/smoother than CM simply due to the lack of bolt-ons and such things. The changes I'm testing right now do not require flashing, they're simply tweaks to the OS.

I've been working with Z to test these out as he's a serious/heavy user so he's a good choice. For a light-user the experience will be improved but for the heavy user, it should be a pleasant surprise.

I've got one xt926 and one xt925 so far (assuming nisky+ is cool with it) along with my xt925

Candidates must be running CM12 nightly and nothing like Xposed. The more stock CM the better the results are to me.
[RAZR HD Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
No pigs here on the dark side of the moon.

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Might this be made to work on Moto AHD/MB886? If so I could test, although not viably for device specific hardware stuff.
[RAZR HD Android Development] KC69:
I have cm 3/22 backed with 3/23 DL ed . ready ta go. I have played with exposed but I don't use it on any daily driver. I only have about 50 apps and only use about 10 of them daily. So no I'm not a power user. But I do appreciate speed and want the parts I use to work. Like Bluetooth on all lollypop ROMs works , but it doesn't seem to have any range. And when my phone rings I need to be able to answer it , not get a black screen or some other weird ****.
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
I targeted 1GB/dual-core for this, if your device meets that and the other pre-reqs, yes, it should work for you.
[RAZR HD Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
I think the AHD has that covered (although I mis-stated memory specification in my PM reply). Will give those tweaks a go. Thanks.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
That's (put right description here) as CM doesn't really have much more (visible) features. CM premise was, Google made Android, we fixed it (or something like that). If fixing means slowing down...

If running music and navigation in background and trying to use gmail, hangout and occasionally open some web pages means heavy user, then I am. But that's should be handled by dual core device with 1 GB of RAM without big problem. In fact, it was just fine before LP.
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
I think the real problem here is the lack of platform tuning which CM11 had plenty of by the time people became mostly happy with it ;)

This is what I hope to achieve with my tests.

Speaking of which, I'm no longer seeking any more folks to help out. Have a decent sampling of similar devices.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
That's hardly explains why AOSP is smoother than CM.

You already made it better, with some compiling optimization :p could be even better.
[RAZR HD Android Development] djvita:
im game for unofficial nightly [MENTION=4418762]CWGSM3VO[/MENTION] , haven't updated in a while. (3/19) That lag man it hurts. My most used apps are play music and whatsapp. these apps always take like 5 secs to load. here maps too, very slow. firefox force closes, and seems it swaps apps closing some apps pinned to the status bar. System monitor says its 99MB free. use nova and restricted apps. Battery saver mode sometimes is faster IMO.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Huh that hurts! You've just reminded me how phone works with stock CM12.
[RAZR HD Android Development] niksy+:
[MENTION=4418762]CWGSM3VO[/MENTION] I may have to disappoint you - mine's an XT926m since my XT925 is still lying with a broken display in the drawer :( But I'm still reporting in! Incoming PM - ETA 60 seconds!!
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Bad news, no more pa gapps :(

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=59640160&postcount=2570
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
Same as Z :)

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Sorry bud, I'm not taking on any more folks. I have a good sampling of XT925/6 and an AtrixHD to try with. Thanks for the offer to help though!
[RAZR HD Android Development] niksy+:
BankS has been back in the gapps game for some time now, though - http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=banks&device=gapps

Man... Seeing that page again just reminded me how much I love kangs. Must get into that if/when I get the time :rolleyes:
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/92105/

Hoping this commit may fix the "NO SERVICE" I see once in a while from lock screen and was previously discussed.
[RAZR HD Android Development] ermito:
I'm impressed by how much AOSP is faster than cm12. And there's no calc bug, btw. Just saying.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Another bad news https://twitter.com/dhacker29/status/580069390936346624
[RAZR HD Android Development] madmonkey57:
Pardon the offtopic and my lazyness (i.e busy as hell actually). Link for AOSP builds please?
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
http://www.droidrzr.com/topic/61544-rom502aosp-aod-dark-updated-03-20-15/

I'm testing it. It is smoother than cm12, at lest for now. Getting radio signal after first boot was strange. Losing signal few minutes, lag like hell but then stabilized and works fine since then. Even after reboot.

Number of features are about the same but not the same kind of features (which mean that is not pure AOSP). I'm missing notification buttons customization. Dark theme is fine but sometimes not consistent.

OOM are too aggressive as in CM12, kills background app, but could be easily fixed.

Currently I'm testing C's tweaks with that AOSP rom.
[RAZR HD Android Development] beefx:
what tweaks? can you tell me about it?
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
It's up to C when he's going to make it public available. Right now tweaks are under changing and testing. Yesterday he was looking for more pigs, guinea pigs but you've missed that train :)
[RAZR HD Android Development] beefx:
i just don't understand that, so i dismiss that :) my eanglish sooo baaad

This tweaks - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=59572623&postcount=2309 ?
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Few minutes ago I was using browser on the phone, got notifications of incoming call and then phone app/service force closed without leaving missed call info. Of course it was important business call. Luckily I've got sms of missed call with number to call it back.

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That was about the first version, currently I have seven :)
[RAZR HD Android Development] beefx:
so can you share with me? :)
[RAZR HD Android Development] beefx:
oh thanks! :D
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
[MENTION=4447581]beefx[/MENTION] - sorry no more testers needed, thanks.

Z - I was about to download it and check it out since everyone claims it's so much smoother but seeing your report, I think I'll pass :) I also saw your comment in PM about your idea, I'll give it some thought ;)

As for dhacker stopping on the xt926, I'm not surprised. He's been playing with the Nexus 6 for some time now (Shamu).

CM12 is more than bearable, it's just a lack of tuning.
[RAZR HD Android Development] beefx:
please pm me when will be public release. thanks

AND dhacker stop building AOSP only or all builds? i mean cm12 also..
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
No prob. Sounds to me like everything for xt92x.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
You should try, it is smoother than CM12 with the same apps installed. FC could be coincidence or because your tweaks :D

That would be great!!! Count on me in any way (except sexual :D).

Me neither but it is a big loss for us. He made LP possible for our devices.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Guys, in the case that you didn't know about this great add-on, uBlock. It works with FF for desktop but works with FF for Android too! Just installed :)
[RAZR HD Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
Yerp. Nice to have another gapps option. FYI: I just got bad results (Google play services and dependent services and apps FCing) after installing Banks gapps-L-2-25-15 on CM12 3/23/15 nightly on AHD. I notice at the bottom of the Banks DL page a mention of L5.1 so I wonder if that new one is just for L5.1. Switching back to PA-gapps to test C's tweaks.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Without offense to anyone, PA Gapps are/were the best. Pico one, just minimum of the minimum. Rest just download from the Play.
[RAZR HD Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
No offense taken. I actually suspect the PA gappss package of be partial cause of a long standing problem running Google Drive/Docs/Sheets on KK with ART. That's why I wanted to switch to Banks. Even though PA aint the best, it actually makes sense for me to test using the same combination I've been using so subjective observations will be more accurate.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Only difference between "gapps" should be what is in the package.
[RAZR HD Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
I know. That's why it caught me by surprise that the newest Banks gapps had problems and has me wondering if it is 5.1 specific.
[RAZR HD Android Development] niksy+:
Sorry, I should've read myself before posting the link. It clearly states ### GApps for Android 5.1 Lollipop by BaNkS ### now, while it didn't the last time I downloaded a fresh zip. That may very well mean that they are 5.1 specific.

And also, I'm all for a minimalistic gapps pack. BankS' Lollipop pack is quite a minimalistic one, but whatever whichever gapps pack contains, you can just delete the apps (and libs) you don't need from the zip. Hell, I'm still planning on going gappless on my phone. The only thing Google I use on it ATM is Contacts sync - is there an app you would recommend for this purpose instead? Since I don't feel comfortable keeping all my Contacts info on Big Bro G's servers...

Last point of this rather long and not very on topic post (sorry!) - I switched to CM12 last night after being on BlissPop for two weeks and I can easily say I like BlissPop a lot better. The root access control implementation is better for an advanced user, imho, and many shortcuts/switches have greater functionality and there's a host of neat settings to figure out and set-up according to test... For example - clear recent apps button in lower right corner? Two clicks in BlissPop... And honestly, performance really feels the same, at least to me. Although, yeah, nprevette is experimenting with toolchains, so that's a minus atm, I suppose...

Sorry for the long post, just wanted to let you guys know a bit of the stuff you're missing out from that "blissful" rom. Cheers you all. :cowboy:
[RAZR HD Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
Yep. Just got good result with 3/5 banks which was still 5.01. btw - No blame cast - I read that text and installed anyhow :silly:

I have to use Google (big-big brother) stuff for work (little-big brother) or I'd try to go gappless. As for personal contacts, I dont know if this would do it for you but you could try this. MyPhoneExplorer. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fjsoft.myphoneexplorer.client&hl=en and http://www.fjsoft.at/en/. It's a crude but effective replication of old school Blackbery PIM sync. Among other things it let's you synch contacts from phone to desktop clients without the cloud.[/QUOTE]

I find the Root access setup in CM12 cumbersome to configure but snappier at it's prime function than SuperSU (which I had to use to keep TibU happy in KK/ART).
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Agree with niksy+. Not too much about BP, how about that CM is not feature rich anymore in comparative with other roms. Even worse, is not smoother neither. Irony is that BP is based on CM. Looks like that CM lives on the former glory :(

Taking AOSP as a base and carefully cherry-pick features could lead to much better final result. Nobe's rom is a good example.
[RAZR HD Android Development] niksy+:
My point exactly... At one side, I'm glad that Cyanogen is trying to make Android what it's supposed to be (and was in the beginning), but at the other I'm puzzled by them maintaining CyanogenMod as an open-source thing available to all and Cyanogen OS which has it's closed bits as much as Google's Android (AOSP+a million proprietary gapps/glibs is not the same as AOSP)... I suppose they have to keep Cyanogen OS somewhat exclusive compared to CyanogenMod in order to attract companies to use their C OS, but I'm not sure if that's necessary.

I'm sorry for continuing this somewhat off topic discussion, we can move it elsewhere if someone feels like talking about it more, or we can just drop it :cowboy:
[RAZR HD Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
Here's a weak segue back on topic. As I try to establish a comparative baseline against which to test C's tweaks in a CM12 build ... all I can say is gaaaahhh! I did not participate at this same early stage of CM11 dev but CM in re CM12 has been given a steep hill to climb. At least it boots faster after these spontaneous restarts. :crying:
[RAZR HD Android Development] rahimali:
Sorry about OT but there's a review on this app's page by someone called David Eason who alleges the desktop client installs at least two adware/malware on your PC so beware! :)
[RAZR HD Android Development] RMarques:
Thanks man, I was just looking for a double check and yeah, everything seems to be ok.

Yeah, Im KKBL and TWRP 2.8.1.0 KK compatible. It has the option to format /data but not /data/media!

There are only 2 options that come to my mind:

1. Some TWRP error.

2. Since any kind of OTA always has failed on my device, I used the Orphees method in order to succeed to update to KKBL (The KKBL was extracted by Orphee from a RTFR KK Soak test) and maybe it isnt compatible with F2FS. However it doesnt explain why, after Ive reverted /data back to EXT4, Im still having the same issue while attempting to install CM12 11/18 and 11/19!

Go figure!
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
I am using KKBL via the RTFR soak test as well. Carrier has official, yet unreleased KKBL update. F2FS works fine for me.
[RAZR HD Android Development] RMarques:
Thanks man...Ill try another recovery then! My brain is toasted already atm!
[RAZR HD Android Development] RMarques:
Phils touch 6587

Kinda same result...with some little extra info "Unmount of /data failed: no such volume"
[RAZR HD Android Development] holipa:
after install this rom i dont have root.

thats normal ?

This package is working su binaries for this rom

install from cwm and all working.
[RAZR HD Android Development] RMarques:
CM12 11/18 came rooted already for me man. Anyways, a couple of days ago, a folk posted here a subinary.zip. Download and flash it...its the correct one!
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
My particular PhilZ is built by [MENTION=813614]Orphee[/MENTION] -- I'll try to find the direct link and edit this, keeps telling me it's too big to upload (>8MB)

http://www.filedropper.com/philztouch6587-motomsm8960
[RAZR HD Android Development] RMarques:
Thanks a lot man...smells like something weird is going on here!
[RAZR HD Android Development] djvita:
Use mega.co.nz
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
Feel free to mirror it there.
[RAZR HD Android Development] RMarques:
Thanks for your help man, Orphees Philz was flashed successfully.

Unfortunately, the result was the same error as on previous screen shot though!
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
For PhilZ:

Wipe & Format Options > Custom Format Options

- Toggle f2fs <> ext4 migration

- format /data and /data/media (/sdcard)

Make sure you have backups of your /data (nandroid) and your /sdcard
[RAZR HD Android Development] RMarques:
I did everything as you said but the back ups because, if you are talking about internal SD card, there isnt any data/media on it that I care about.
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
You'll need to move over to the PhilZ thread and see if someone can help there. Not much else I can suggest.

"It works for me" :)
[RAZR HD Android Development] RMarques:
Thanks man...I cant deal with this no more today! Ill do it tomorrow!

Cheers and thank again for your help!
[RAZR HD Android Development] lloydsw:
Couldn't find it either. Thanks!
[RAZR HD Android Development] jewbydoo:
Just to clarify; I'm pretty sure I understand, but I want myself and others to be sure.

Formatting /sdcard simply means you're formatting the internal data to your phone. Not much different from clean flashing a phone.

/sdcard1 is external storage, the sd card that matters. Does migrating to f2fs require formatting external storage as well? Must all data hop on this filesystem?
[RAZR HD Android Development] s27moto:
now it's good for daily users
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
No, only /data and /data/media (internal storage) not the external SDcard which needs to be vfat/fat32. Any other partition formatted as f2fs will lead to failures and is unsupported.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2944917 :D
[RAZR HD Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
Never been detected as malware, vurus or PUP by any of verrrry many PC or droid scanners I've used. I notice that someone got a PUP hit for it in Bitdefender which is very aggressive. Anyhow, thanks for heads up, though still not worried.

{EDIT - after more research it does indeed seem like the installation package contains deceptive prompts and can install other junk. I've manged to install it multiple times without any problem (I read prompts, panels and options along the way) but people should be wary. If those pitfalls can be avoided, it is very useful. ]
[RAZR HD Android Development] TBueno:
I use the "regular" Gapps as recommended by CM (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Google_Apps) and I can't get Docs or Sheets to run under ART (KK_jbbl) either...
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Just got calc bug, btw. Just saying.

Not only calc, business calendar 2... The same bug, as the base of all roms are the same.
[RAZR HD Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
OK, I just installed and configured a test CM12. How can I force the calc bug?
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
I've explained that already at least once but now just happened. Only few ours of uptime, without running many apps...

Usually happens after few days of uptime or when a lot of apps are started. Especially with few background apps like here aps + music and then open few heavy pages in FF. One or both background apps will be killed and then calc bug usually appears. If not, clear all recent or just calc and try again.

It's not about how to get it, it's about how to fix it. Maybe you'll figured out something. Good luck! :)

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Recently I've posted bad news twice. Now good news, phone with AOSP and some tweaks just flying! Never been so smooth with any LP rom. Keep testing and fingers crossed :)
[RAZR HD Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
Thanks for the scoop. It is that precursor/associated event; "One or both background apps will be killed" that I want to look out for.
[RAZR HD Android Development] kabaldan:
Just a cent from my developer perspective:

If you look at the amount of flow at http://review.cyanogenmod.org and compare it with any other alternative android open source project as https://gerrit.omnirom.org or http://review.androidopendevelopment.com or any other similar project, you simply can't ignore the fact that the scale of the amount of contributions/active developers is miles apart.

CyanogenMod is simply the place where the overwhelming most of the alternative open source android development is happening. There's no other project that can be compared with it.

The low level support for many different devices is almost exclusively provided by CM contributors (and then used by other ROM developers).

In regard to moto 2012 msm8960 devices, Nobe's AOD project directly uses (and depends on) the work done (and still being done) in CM for those devices ( https://github.com/nobe1976/android/blob/lp/default.xml#L557 ).

If it can result in builds that are somehow better responsive than pure CM builds, that's great. (That's what open source is meant to be - use it and enhance it, and if possible, contribute your own enhancements back to source you've used in your own project.)

Anyway, most developers will contribute to the project where the source is most alive, contributions are managed in a sane way, and where the 'things' are simply happening, as the evolving of the source is what matters most when you are a developer.

.

Btw., Cyngn inc. and CyanogenMod developer community are two different things...

On another subject:

The phone line call recording should be finally fixed for msm8960 devices in Lollipop by this commit: http://review.cyanogenmod.org/92154
[RAZR HD Android Development] elektronAu:
Also helps if the dev uses the device itself as a daily driver :)

I've been meaning to download the source to see how much I can tweak it but the following have been a struggle:

1) OS X :(

2) OS X Yosemite Wifi madness...

3) OS X Dev Tool madness... I see a trend here... :(

4) The massive git download, problem being wifi dodginess...

I've been meaning to try out the Docker images I've seen in another thread or... experiment with setting up one myself. As soon as I sort out the OS and find some time, I'll get right into it.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Have you ever seen so much free RAM on LP before? :)

AOSP (kind of) + C's tweaks + zram + second core active = smooth LP experience. Finally.
[RAZR HD Android Development] beefx:
you using AOSP build by Nobe on Droidrzr?

noticed in cm12: after 1 hour in youtube app i get redraw nova launcher with aggressive desktop. :mad:
[RAZR HD Android Development] Zeljko1234:
Yes but as I wrote above with very effective tweaks. AOSP has lower memory footprint and it is smoother by default but without tweaking has the same problems as CM12.
[RAZR HD Android Development] KC69:
C. I will verify what Z said about your tweaks helping a bunch on cm,aosp,and bliss. I haven't messed with zram. Just yer perfzip and ani,trans to off tweaks. One thing I'll say tho is I bootlooped trying to dirty flash 3/25 over cm with your tweak on it.
[RAZR HD Android Development] CWGSM3VO:
The tweaks would have nothing to do with the bootloop as flashing/booting is done well before you could apply them. I have a newer version for you to test out, I'll PM you.