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[Nexus 5 General] start2finish:
lollipop yak

I have a nexus 4,5 and 7 and i love them all but lollipop has killed the nexus 7 made may nexus 4 so slow is not even worth turning it on. And my nexus 5 was so bug ridden that I wiped it and went back to 4.4.4 so all in all worst OS from Google up to now

Going to roll back my nexus 4 tonight and the nexus 7 will have to go back to be repaired
[Nexus 5 General] TigerCourage:
Not encrypted and didn't restart since you quoted me. And the phone began lagging again. I tried loads of Roms and custom kernels all with the same result. Now I'm on official image unrooted with locked bootloader.

On KitKat with the same usage I used to have 1.2GB free all the time. This makes me think I'm running Samsung ****wiz on top lol

Hopefully Google is going to fix this otherwise my next phone is a Motorola.
[Nexus 5 General] mscrivo:
Yeah this is getting pretty frustrating. In the same boat as you, non encrypted and apps are closing left right and center, there is a horrible delay on almost any UI interaction from the home screen. Curiously, scrolling panes seem to be super smooth, but that's about it. I feel like this is a definite downgrade from 4.4.4+Xposed and might go back.
[Nexus 5 General] Schoat333:
I've had two more weird bugs pop up. I am still having the random press the power button and my camera is open bug, but I am also now have it randomly open in what looks like it should be the phone, but its an all white scree with a blue status bar, and no on screen buttons. Usually pressing the power button twice will bring me to the lock screen and fix it. After I unlock, my phone app is open.

Second bug is I had my flashlight on. It shut of randomly, and wouldn't turn back on. Also, my camera would give me the message that it could not connect. I had to clear data from the camera, and reboot the phone for it to work again.

The first two bug I have only seen on my N5, the second both my wife and I have had (Both N5's)
[Nexus 5 General] DonDizzurp:
Lots of different bugs so far but I can live with it
[Nexus 5 General] Vosky:
I really like the new design.

But I downgraded for 2 reasons :

- cyanogen features

- root incompatibilities with some apps.
[Nexus 5 General] Rusty!:
This isn't quite right, Froyo got it's first update after a week or so (FRF85B => FRF91).
[Nexus 5 General] Gatz:
Applied the OTA on Nexus 5 and so far no major issues. Of course there are many bugs and also things which work a bit strange, but I like it.

After a few days I'm pretty satisfied. Right now I'm unrooted. Will probably wait for 5.0.1 or later before rooting again.

PROS:

Interface is improved. I like the animations and the top notifications panel. It does not require the double swipe anymore, which was kinda dull.

Clean and consistent looks.

Quick toggles are now... quick toggles! instead of just links.

Speed is nice. I'd say comparable to before. I guess ART and the new heavier GUI compensate each other.

The multitasking feels different... as though they were killing unactive apps much more aggressively. I have no evidence of this but I like it. I guess it ties into the new task manager/history.

New configurable adaptive brightness is very nice.

CONS:

Would be nice to configure the quick toggles. Example: I like to keep my Location in battery saving mode. From the toggle it's impossible. Either OFF or high battery usage.

Priority mode is a great idea, but feels like in beta state. nothing works well and the fact that apps can decide to bypass it is just stupid...

A few force-closes and once I had to reboot. As I said it's got a few sharp edgeds to be fixed.

No XPosed so far :crying: This is really sad...

The new task switcher is... different. Gotta get used to it. Just shut down your urge to keep it empty and you'll be fine!

I guess I probably forgot something, but this is what I can come up with now!
[Nexus 5 General] 7h0m50n:
There's a memory leak in L and that's why your apps are getting killed so quickly. It will eventually slow the whole phone down. Give it a couple days.
[Nexus 5 General] galaxys:
It sux's! But it will get better because of XDA...
[Nexus 5 General] Yaz75:
I've been running it since the OTA released and what you're saying is simply not true for me at all. It's still fast and snappy as ever.
[Nexus 5 General] Gatz:
So far I haven't experienced it, and it's been on longer than a couple of days.

I have disabled the following Google apps though, so the memory leak you mention might be related to some of those:

Earth

Email

Fit

Play Movies & TV

Forgot to mention one big PRO, which is the Battery Saving mode.

It surely feels like having a 100€ phone instead, but it does save a lot of battery and can be very useful in emergency situations. It's been already for me.
[Nexus 5 General] Ajfink:
I've been running my own CM12 nightlies (well, morning builds) for about two weeks. Android L is pretty great, at least once I turned off having Chrome tabs integrate with the recent apps switcher. It's smooth, it's pretty, it's great.

VoLTE would have made this better, though.
[Nexus 5 General] spielnicht:
Glad to see I'm not the only one experiencing the camera lag. It's at the point where I find the camera on my N5 as good as useless.
[Nexus 5 General] snappycg1996:
Actually, he is absolutely right. There is a severe memory leak issue and it's affecting all 5.0 users on the Nexus 5. Give it time. Apps kill themeselves and won't sync unless opened, for example Kik won't receive messages unless I open it, and it becomes SLOOOWW. Only a reboot fixes it and it's SLOW upon reboot too.
[Nexus 5 General] Yaz75:
I don't know how else to say it, none of the things you're describing are happening to my phone. I do not get apps that kill themselves, the phone doesn't slow down. I don't have to reboot the phone. I can't state it any clearer, I've had 5.0 since the OTA, I sideloaded it and have been running it ever since. I'm not sure how many more weeks you'd like me to go before believing me. I'm sorry you're having issues with your unit, but the errors you are experiencing are simply not universal ones.
[Nexus 5 General] ast00:
Games close themselves a lot. Gun Club 3 is a really problamatic one for that.

As for the phone slowing down, I only noticed battery drain on the third day without reboot.. Probably memory leak,, didn't check.
[Nexus 5 General] Gatz:
It would be interesting to know the difference between the setups, because I also notice that more and more when I hit the home button the launcher redraws itself, as though it had died behind the foreground application.

Are you rooted? Have you disabled any particular app or setting? Is there anything you can think having done that could have turned off the cause of the leaking behavior?

I have seen people claiming having it and people claiming NOT having it, so both are true, it's just a matter of finding out what causes it I think.
[Nexus 5 General] Yaz75:
I think that you may be right.

For reference, I'm unrooted and locked bootloader. It is bone stock since day one. Honestly, part of me wonders if that's why I'm not experiencing problems. Despite people wiping and doing a "fresh" install, I always wonder if little vestiges get left behind to muck up the works from previous ROMs. Past phones I've had I've flashed like crazy and after many times, despite wiping, I've had issues that really screwed with the OS. I know it SHOULDN'T make a difference, but as far as anecdotal evidence it seems to. I've never flashed a ROM on this phone or modified it in any way. Only thing I've done is use Apex for the launcher. and changed all animation scales to .5x.

Apps I've disabled:

Email

Google Fit

Hindi, Korean and Pinyin input

iWin IME

Talkback
[Nexus 5 General] pfmiller:
My N5 is stock and locked too, but this is still a major problem for me. There is almost certainly some common app that you don't have installed or some obscure configuration or usage habit that accounts for you not running into this bug. Regardless, it's not terribly important for us to figure out. The problem is so common the only proper fix will have to come from Google.
[Nexus 5 General] Ahimsa310:
None of what you said is happening to me either. I've never had any lag, any apps close themselves, I never shut off my phone... Not all users are having these issues... It may be a lollipop bug, but it isn't giving my device any of the often complained about side effects. Except poor battery life. I have 44 active windows in my recents working just fine.
[Nexus 5 General] MrObvious:
Ditto. I think my bad battery life is if I use my web browser.
[Nexus 5 General] arpitnathany:
Those who don't have any lags do you maybe restart your phone daily or in a day or two, because then you won't be experiencing any lags, you need to use your phone for at least 3-4 days without restarting then you'll notice it getting slower and slower as system consumes more and more ram
[Nexus 5 General] folkrav:
The so-called "memory-leaks" seems to be caused by misbehaving apps, nothing more. That was something that could have been expected from a complete runtime overhaul. Give some time to the developers to fix their apps. I really doubt this is Google's fault, as the issue really seems to be user dependant.
[Nexus 5 General] pfmiller:
Misbehaving apps like Play Music? Where do you get this silly idea? Multiple apps all suddenly restarting themselves at the same time is clearly an OS problem. Apps don't just shutdown without being told to.
[Nexus 5 General] folkrav:
It's not because you see Play Music and GNL relaunches that they are the culprits. It's not so straightforward, nothing proves the OS is the culprit. The transition to ART likely causes that kind of misbehavior. Memory management works as intended - killing background apps when memory is getting low. A common culprit with this "memory leak" issue you are talking about has already been identified - the Facebook app often creates the issue for some people.

An OS issue would be a lot more widespread. Other than on those tech-savvy communities - XDA, AP comments, etc. - I don't see much people complaining about that.
[Nexus 5 General] xdatastic:
I have a freshly factory image flashed N5 with only Google apps installed and I need to reboot every couple days due to lag and slowdowns. Apps show as 'restarting' in the app management screen. Dunno about memory leaks though as nothing looks any different to normal in terms of memory usage as reported by the stats in the settings.
[Nexus 5 General] folkrav:
You do and yet many people report they don't, me included. How do you conclude to a widespread OS issue?
[Nexus 5 General] DSF:
I've spoke with 2 more friends with nexus 5 and both have this issue. But, one of them doesn't need to restart the phone so often.. because he doesn't use the phone too often.

I can get the apps killing behaviour within less than 6 hours with some Chrome browsing with multiple tabs and facebook.

I think that Those who 'aren't' affected really don't use the phone too much.
[Nexus 5 General] pfmiller:
First of all, i used ART in Kit Kat and it didn't have this problem. And second, this is not actually a memory leak issue. People keep calling it that, but the phone memory never fills up. The problem is that when the memory gets close to 2/3 utilization the OS starts killing apps like it's out of memory, even though there is still plenty of memory free which never gets touched by anything. Killing background apps when memory is low is exactly what should be happening, killing apps when 600MB is free is not what should be happening and that is completely the runtimes responsibility.
[Nexus 5 General] :
Now you can't generalise like that based on your own experience. You don't know how much or how people use their phones because apps on yours get killed.
[Nexus 5 General] DSF:
Well, It's not only my own phone, actually it's 3 from 3 phones, meaning a full 100%, used by 3 different people with their own pattern.

Also, there are ATM 1084 who are affected by this issue:

https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729

And don't forget that many don't even know about this.. or aren't using xda/forums (same with those 2 friends)
[Nexus 5 General] Yaz75:
I do not reboot daily. I haven't restarted my device in around 5 days and still no lag or issues.
[Nexus 5 General] folkrav:
I consider myself a poweruser and never needed to restart the phone.

---------- Post added at 08:19 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:14 AM ----------

That's a pretty small number of people to generalize that much. Nobody knows the real number, and a lot of people aren't affected too. You can't possibly know unless you're some kind of god.

Jesus, I now remember why I avoided some of those sub forums. People are so stubborn when the only "proof" they have is their own experience.

Wait until the issue is really identified. I was giving my opinion about the issue, while you guys are presenting your explanation as an evidence - which it isn't.
[Nexus 5 General] :
What I commented on was your remark that people who aren't having issues must use their phones little. Which you absolutely can not say and is a sweeping generalisation. And 3 phones - even 1003 phones isn't much considering the amount of N5s sold worldwide.

Edit:

This is so true
[Nexus 5 General] DSF:
Well, I've said that one of us can go for days without problem.. then he needs to restart.

It may be a problem with the apps we are using + Lollipop, yes. .

Yaz75, folkrav Please post a screenshot with RAM usage (Settings > Apps > Running) [ wait a few seconds till the data is being updated, eg System).

Also with uptime (Settings > About phone > Status > bottom section).

Thanks
[Nexus 5 General] folkrav:
Do I really need to prove a point I don't even want to?

The whole point is nobody has a frekkin idea of what's causing it, yet people in this forum keep telling everyone they know what's happening. We-don't-know-yet. For all we know, it could be a virtual RAM-stealing leprechaun. I never had in issue in weeks. Everyone's phone usage is different, and the issue could be elsewhere.

You have the issue, alright. However, nobody has no real idea how widespread the issue is. I don't have it. A lot of people don't, too, yet nobody says that Lollipop running fine is a widespread occurence. Powerusers are the vocal minority.
[Nexus 5 General] Yaz75:
Why not.

Here's a screen shot of running apps:

I took a screenshot of the uptime, but honestly I didn't want to spend too many calories blacking out my IMEI etc. I can tell you that it says 51+ hours.
[Nexus 5 General] DSF:
folkrav, geez my intention was not to offend you or anyone. I just simply cannot understand why some users have the issue and others don't.

Thanks Yaz75. It seems your System usage is fine. You have 0 issues with app being killed?

If I don't restart It gets so badly that if I switch to any app it just reloads it (launcher included).

Are you using Chrome?

I use it heavily.

I've posted some screenshots, with just 8hr uptime (with about 1h20m actual usage) the System ate 565MB.
[Nexus 5 General] Yaz75:
That is correct, I have had 0 apps killed since I applied the OTA in early November. I do use Chrome as my browser and I do not have to restart. The only reason that it's only been up for a little over 2 days is that I had turned the phone off overnight and booted it up in the morning. I was getting a lot of Christmas shopping deals emails and I was tired of hearing the notifications going off. And instead of silencing it, I just turned it off. I generally do not restart the phone more than 1 or maybe 2 times per week. I use it as an audio device primarily, lots of podcasts and streaming music via Google Play Music through my bluetooth headset. I use Apex launcher and I do not have redraws exiting an app or the apps drawer.
[Nexus 5 General] pfmiller:
Are you in denial or something? I don't get it, 1000 votes in the Android bug tracker is huge! That's in the top 20 out of 10s of thousands of open cases. For an issue that only effects one device to get so many votes so fast means it is obviously a very severe and widespread problem.
[Nexus 5 General] Yaz75:
It does beg the question though, are the people reporting the bug to Google fully knowledgeable about what they're reporting?

How many are: "Since upgrading this phone sucks and I have lots of problems."? Because I clicked on quite a few of those Defect ID's and there's a whole lot of people just parroting back what they've read here and on other internet sites. As if it isn't possible that they have a different issue? They just read here that it has a "memory leak" so they just report the same thing whether it is or not.

I'm certainly not discounting the fact that some users are having issues, I just don't put too much stock in the number of bugs reported because many of them lack the knowledge and experience to really dig into the OS and identify issues. I certainly don't know how to do that. But there are a ton of folks who learn how to root and flash a few ROMs that believe that they now have more of a handle on it than they really do. But again, I'm no developer and I'm not remotely as smart as the folks who designed and wrote this OS.
[Nexus 5 General] :
Come on dude, at least try to read what you are actually replying to. I was commenting on you generalising. And that you did.

Whatever happens in the Google bug tracker does not necessarily mean that there is an actual issue system-wise and looking at that bug tracker it's just comments like "OMG THIS IS BAAAAAD, GOOGLE PLEASE FIXX" with almost nobody giving logs or bugreports to help identify the issue. It has nothing to do with me being in denial or not.

Now look at it this way - there are exactly 2 facts:

1. Some people (such as yourself) are having this issue

2. Some people (such as myself) are not having this issue

Those are the only facts on the issue. Complaints mean nothing without evidence and you are probably just as aware as I am that it is the unsatisfied customers who will always raise their voices while those content just stay content and move on. Generalising like you did "because my phone has a problem, all the other users who don't have this problem are lying or don't use their phone properly" isn't going to change that. 99% of all internet statistics are made-up crap and nobody needs to add to that pile.

Nobody here is denying that there is SOME KIND of problem - neither am I. What we are denying is that this problem affects ALL users - which it doesn't. Now if you really want to find out what the problem is or get a fix for it, go back to the Google bugtracker and provide them a log or several logs of you using the phone when it happens. Complaining here and accusing me and others of lying just because we aren't having the same software problem you are having isn't going to fix it for you.
[Nexus 5 General] gtg465x:
Guys... I think Google forgot to release 5.0.1 for Nexus phones...

Jk, but in all seriousness, it is taking an unusually long time. I have never seen an update for the latest Nexus phone lag a week and a half and counting behind Nexus tablet updates. Typically the latest Nexus phone gets the update first, even before any Nexus tablets. At worst, the latest Nexus phone typically gets updated on the same day as Nexus tablets. I haven't been keeping up with the forum, but I'm starting to suspect the updates have been ready to roll out, but there is some type of licensing issue with Qualcomm holding everything up.
[Nexus 5 General] rayiskon:
After 2-3 days of uptime RAM used by system on my phone goes over 700MB. And i have GNow switched OFF, GFit autodetect also OFF, Location and Location reporting OFF, i use greenify for a lot of apps....

2 of my buds who own a nexus 5 (unrooted and complete stock) are having problems with apps closing and even random reboots after a few days of uptime.

It's clear the majority of people are facing high RAM usage from System. Those who aren't are lucky, i guess, or there is a certain pattern of how they use their phone that is preventing system from eating up RAM.
[Nexus 5 General] Yaz75:
I don't doubt a word of your personal experience.

This right here:

"It's clear the majority of people are facing high RAM usage from System"

This is the hyperbole and conjecture where I check out. There is no measurable stat to back that statement up. So when I see a similar proclamation thrust out there as if it is fact, well it simply isn't just because someone says so.

Not personally attacking you, that's not my intent. I hope you have a good day.
[Nexus 5 General] skrypj:
I used it for a while and was generally unhappy. Lot's of FC's, particularly on googles own apps. I ended up switching back to LiquidSmooth 3.2
[Nexus 5 General] rayiskon:
Well, you see, i find it very hard to believe that system processes fill up RAM on some Nexus 5 units and on others don't, of course, taking into consideration we're comparing stock and unmodified software.

Yes, maybe my statement was not backed up by any statistical studies, but from people i know, forums i follow, and all tech sites that wrote about Lollipop bugs (and this issue in particular), i'm giving my self the right to categorize people who don't have this issue as a minority. There is surely something they are doing (or not doing) that is preventing this issue from being triggered on their device.

I already had a discussion on this forum about lollipop bugs and i really don't see it leading anywhere. There is one thing i know, a few days ago Google released sources for a new kernel for nexus4 and nexus7 (2012), nexus7 (2013) had issues with playing video (including the youtube app), hell 5.0.1 factory image for Nexus5 is not ready yet despite that AOSP was updated a week ago. That's enough proof for me.
[Nexus 5 General] aletto:
Is there a way to close the quick settings without swiping up twice?

Because right now if you're using the phone with one hand, it takes one swipe down + a tap to open the quick settings, the same as in KitKat. Now, in KitKat, you could simply use the bottom bar to close the quick settings. Now it takes two swipe ups/two taps on the back button, even if you don't have any notifications. It just feels cumbersome. It takes a bunch of actions just to change one simple thing.

When it comes to usability, some parts of Lollipop just feel like a step back, especially the notifications/quick settings which we all use so often and I don't understand why they would make it more complicated.

Unless I'm completely stupid and missed something.
[Nexus 5 General] pfmiller:
It might be nice if the back button closed the notification bar in one touch at least.
[Nexus 5 General] TheIgster:
If you press home, the full pull down closes.
[Nexus 5 General] pfmiller:
Sure, but whatever app you're in also closes!
[Nexus 5 General] MrObvious:
Hit the recent tasks twice.
[Nexus 5 General] Spawne32:
Well, Ive had it since release now, and I have begun to notice the lagging issues. They seem to become quite severe after 2-3 days of uptime without rebooting the phone. Make's it almost impossible to text fast because the phone is almost unresponsive. I have been enjoying the UI changes and havent experienced much in the way of errors but the lag is getting quite annoying.
[Nexus 5 General] snappycg1996:
I too am experiencing severe lag issues and launcher redraws after not even 1 day of use. I don't game, I don't do anything intensive on my phone. Just Facebook, Instagram, news, and few other small apps here and there and I reboot at 7AM in the morning and usually between 3:30-5:00 I need a reboot. When I hit the home button, it takes me back and it redraws, and some background apps, such as Kik, won't even download a message unless I'm inside the app itself. I am rooted and running Greenify as well.

Just thought I'd chime in again, as I have in other places on XDA, and I have seen many reports of the problem and I also know someone personally with another N5 black (I have white ) and he is also having this issue.

I am one of those people who do believe everyone exists, but maybe their apps and setups just don't allow it to manifest.