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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] vittogn:
I hope Sony will give to users the choice of avoiding full device encryption. My N10 and N4 are faster on lollipop then on KK.

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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] King p1n:
Incorrect, it won't be slower at all.

Only devices that ship with Lollipop will be encrypted.

Sonys lollipop update for your Z3 will not magically force encryption on your phone, it will merely provide the option.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] sxtester:
Hope you're right, but that's something that remains to be seen. Could also be the case that once you updated to L the phone shows a message like "please stand by while your data is being encrypted...".
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] easyfly:
I unfortunately I withdraw my offer of € 10 because I sold my Z3C. I think it will take too long
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] XQC:
I'm also already tempted to sell the device, unfortunately there's no phone anywhere which can compete with the trifecta of power, battery life and size suitable for one hand, which the Z3C offers.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muzab a:
So let me get this straight

U sold or thinking of selling just because u cant get root on locked bootloader

What has this world come to
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] XQC:
If there was another phone similar to the Z3C and with possibility of rooting without irreversible effects: Yes.

I'm loyal to people, not to devices.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muzab a:
Its silly
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Anakjantan:
Username "HowToNew" from YouTube shows how to root D6633 (Not sure if unlocking bootloader is required) anyone tried using his method using their D6653 or other variant?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] sonalikagaur:
Need Help Devs!

Hello Devs,

I have received an official firmware updrade in my Z3 D6653 yesterday (23.0.1.A.5.77)

I have the back up of the new firmware files, I have used Firmware Tool to extract out the system files....but the file after being decrypted are like "systemdata.sin", etc.

I am completely new to this.

Is there some way we can inject our "application.apk" into those files and decrypt them back and Install in Z3 ???

Also, i see some files named "simlock.ta", "(other-files).ta", are these the TA partition files? (Backup of TA?)

Please let me know if I could provide help in any way.

Thanks.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] 0c3l0t:
I tried downloading the file but the amount of advertising was indicative of fake and I couldn't download it after all, besides none of the comments on the video seemed legit (no other comments, weird names, etc) If someone test this please report here.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] vittogn:
Android is freedom and customization! Then with no root there is no way to do a full and reliable backup of your device (Titanium and/or Nandroid).

This a strange world! On the best and more spread mobile platform you can't backup your stuff for easy restore! I envy iOS for this.

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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muzab a:
U buy Sony products because of their features not because what the phone can be if it was rooted

Saying im giving back the phone because of not being able to root is simply saying we are blaming Sony for making it difficult to find a root exploit (for good reasons too)

We as an xda community have only ourselves to blame for not finding root a root exploit

Any way end of off topicness
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] sxtester:
Root is a level of access one needs in order to perform certain tasks under Android / Linux. Hence, without Root you just can't do what the system would otherwise be able to / capable of. Now, why isn't it be left to the users to decide whether or not to grand such access to an App or not?! Or, to put it around, would you accept a Linux or Windows (or any other OS) on your home PC that restricts you similarly to what Android does? I bet you wouldn't.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muzab a:
Again its a small minority of us that wants root

80% of Sony users dont even know what root is and yet they are happy with what Sony given

And like I said, they restrict acess for reasons such as security and to safeguard their features
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] vittogn:
I do agree for stuff like modding, xposed and hacking app or content.

I do root for data and system backup. If Sony would provide a full backup solution and the possibility to sync files between external sd and my NAS, I would be safe enough for not pursuing root any more.

My password manager with an update, completely wiped my records and only the fact I had a backup made by Titanium saved my (digital) life.

Nor Sony nor Google can give to me this layer of security at the moment. Helium is far from a complete solution. Sony file manager cannot sync folders with a NAS.

It's strange to say, but this phone without root is not safe for me!

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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muzab a:
Blame Google for not making that feature

Not sony
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] vittogn:
Yes and no!

On Nexus devices getting is very easy and does not reduce phone capabilities.

Getting OTA is more difficult if you root on Nexus, but this is acceptable.

Is it really only Google to blame?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muzab a:
Getting what? Updates

I thought its backing up that we are talking about
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] vittogn:
Well, I was talking about the fact that with Nexus the only cons of rooting is getting easy access to OTAs.

But the arguments are very linked: a rooted device can perform a much better and safer data and app (+app settings) backup.

Sorry for my English if I was not clear enough.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] sxtester:
Don't think we're on the same page. First of all, it's not Sony (no OEM phone allows Root) resticting access, but Google. More and more user level restrictions were introduced as Android's version number increased. Just to give two simple examples (I could come up with a dozen more): My first Smartphone was an Xperia U, running Android 2.37 at that time. I had an App that automatically turned on/off Flightmode at specified times. Worked flawless, no issues at all. Also, I want my phone to use GPS only, without having to confirm to Google (each and every time I turn it on!) that I don't want to allow their location services to kick in. Had a widget for that on my screen and the problem was solved. Now, try these two simple things on Android 4.4 or even 5... don't work, Google just don't allow you to without Root anymore. For security? Pfff...

Secondly, your statement "...and to safeguard their features" is technically not quite right. There's nothing Sony is safeguarding by preventing root access (as you can only backup and restore your DRM keys to one and the same device). Suppose it's more Google to prevent us from uninstalling their bloatware. See, I accept Sony providing no support for devices running any modified or even different SW and I do respect intellectual property as well. However, I want to use my phone to the full extend the HW is capable of. Period.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muzab a:
I understand

But it shouldnt be to thr point where you give the phone back

The Z3C is a top phone and deserves its spot as my best phone ive ever had
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Dijk:
80% of XZ3 users might be happy without root, but this is XDA here. Everyone commenting on this thread for some reason wants root access, and looking at the post count and 3000$+ offered, there certainly is a demand.

The device is really nice, other things are not. If there was a comparable device with easy root access I would probably switch as well, because it gives me more features that are important to me.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Jstar22:
change font

I need to change or add a new font to my Z3, because I cannot read the text that I received daily in my language. Only rooted z3 can change font. ?? And nobody still can root z3 with locked boot loader in this world. After upgrade Lollipod , it is not sure to root in a short peroid. May be we have to wait for several months after lollipod to root and there may be z4 or z5 or z6??? come out at that time, Crazy....

Better change my phone if sony cannot support to root or change font , like other famous brands..
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] vittogn:
Nexus devices can be rooted easily with no loss of functionality and or performance.

This is a fact!

If this is caused by a stronger comunity in Nexus space, this is another story!

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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tofu-:
Well, if someone wants to gamble and try to game the system, hoping that someone else doesnt release it before them... Good luck.

The bounty method encourages haste and competition, not the sit back attitude that you think it does.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tansy:
Count me in for 10$

How much donation is needed to get ??
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] wooki:
I'm in with $15 for 4.4 root and an extra $10 if the 5.0 release gets root (without having to flash an older firmware), too!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] someone755:
Damn you, I was just on my way to make a thread like this.

Anyways I'm poor atm so only $5 from me (might up that later on but that's it for now).

Also I have something you might want to add to your OP (or reserved post);

I messaged Sony. I wrote in hopes of them and the community being able to find a way around this. And while I did receive a reply, it was one telling me that the "message has been forwarded to the 'Internal Open Source Team'". I wrote another e-mail asking whether or not anything has been decided but the answer was no. The guy I was writing to (said his name was Joe, seemed a nice fellow, only problem was these words were probably not his own) told me I could give the issue and my request more visibility if I commented on one of the recent AOSP articles on Sony's Developer World. And so I did (linked if anyone wants to read the original message that lies abandoned in the comments). One week passes and our very own jerpelea was replying to most of the comments. Not mine. I replied to one of his comments directly in hopes of him seeing our request, but I didn't even expect a response as it's only been a day.

Tl;dr: Messaged Sony, they don't seem to give a sheet about what the modding community wants.

EDIT: Another thing you might want to add to OP are other Z3 devices. AFAIK, the Z3 and Z3 Tablet Compact are also plagued by this issue, no?

More devices = more people = more money = more motivation!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Dsteppa:
The thing is that if Sony keeps releasing so many devices in such a short period, it's hard to get a big base.

At the moment I'm even doubting if I shouldn't wait for the Z4C (I already have the Z3C)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] someone755:
Then we add every new device to the bounty...?

OP, what say thee? 
what makes you think you can just leave this thread for even a second!? HMM?


And icohen only bumped it by $15, no?

Also, seeing as the Z4 series will probably launch with Lollipop, you'll definitely need an unlocked bootloader to root (even more security and things). So if you're not happy with this one, there's no way you'll be happy with the next one :P (also that whole "technology will always progress" argument but im trying to keep it short)

And to top it all off, bump my pledge up to 5€. For a second there, I thought $1 = 1€ xD
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] sxtester:
Count me in for USD 25.

As written and explained above, it doesn't matter which Build or Android version (KK or L) would be exploited. The moment you have root on one you practically have it for all via pre-rooted FW and recovery.

Edit: You can ask a moderator to make this thread sticky for it may help getting the right attention :p
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] SsezZ:
The main thing is - while you have 4.4.4 and LB root you can easily dump TA partition. And than you can restore them anytime and no matter 4.4.4 or 5.0 ^^
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] sxtester:
The moment you have root on a locked BL via an exploit you can install a recovery. In turn you can install any other rom without unlocking the BL from up there, so there's practically no need to do a TA backup anymore.

Why don't you join the party and donate?! :D
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] SsezZ:
As 4 me the main thing is that you can make a stock device anytime.;)

I have already joined the party, and even on the list)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] sxtester:
If you don't have to unlock the BL due to an exploit then simply flashing the official FW will revert the phone back to stock. No need to backup/restore the TA.

Sorry for not realising you're already on the list. :rolleyes:
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] gamingforfact:
$50 USD
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] kertong:
Pledging $50usd for a root exploit that works on my z3c!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] ARR13:
0.1 BTC here
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] DarK_MischieF:
Sign me up for $50
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] XanSama:
I'm in for $30.00
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] charlie460:
Put me down for $100.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tribemac:
Well thats not completly true , you still need to unlock your bootloader if you wanna flash a none stock rom like, cm,aosp and so on or a costum kernel . without a unlocked bootloade you can just flash stock Roms.

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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] dillalade:
$100 from me.

Where my geeks @
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tomwas54:
I'm in for $25.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] sxtester:
Yes, and another fact is that Nexus has no similar features to lose when you unlock the BL in order to root it...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muzab a:
Then go buy a nexus
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] sxtester:
Please carefully read my post again. Why would I want to go from bad to worse?

Honestly, I'm not sure you understand what this whole thread really is about.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muzab a:
My bad didnt read it properly
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Anakjantan:
Popcorn finished.. Guess we have to get back to topic..
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Zwulf:
Sorry for OT again.

Just to mention, because it was said that preventing root would cause a higher level of security...

Anyone who ever used XPrivacy (Xposed module) knows that EVERY app from Play Store would read the device serial - this is not specified by Google. Often apps also request rights that are not even mentioned in Play Store (like reading SD-card, pictures, etc.). Dolphin Browser is a good example for that. Google does nothing against this. That means that my private data is not secure at all without being able to root and block these requests apps don't need to work and not even for displaying ads (which is ok when they are free) and additionally you can't even know that the app reads your private data because it's not specified in Play Store. So you can't prevent this by only using apps that won't intrude your privacy, because you can't be sure that the app is using only the rights they let you know. Is this really more secure? Think about and try yourself with another rooted device and XPrivacy if you won't believe that.

Edit:

Not to mention those apps trying to identify you via your Wi-Fi SSID. They don't actually use your Wi-Fi connection but try to fetch the name. You would be surprised how many apps do this.

Sorry again for OT, just wanted to let you guys know.

I really hope that an exploit is found soon to root our great device without losing functionality.

Get me on the list with 20 € please.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Jetbo4:
I will add $10 USD to the bounty for Z3 Compact.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] maxp84z:
Still no root yet? I am sad and disappointed.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] STR33TPIR8:
[BOUNTY] Z3 lineup - Root with LB method ***$ 3000.00+ GOAL REACHED***

If I had an exploit i would wait a bit more for the bounty to get bigger ;)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] TalkingAntColony:
I pledge 0.05 BTC (currently about $20).

Also, if I had an exploit, I would publish it ASAP before someone else took the bounty...

This is a sick phone, and a rooted stock OS would be the cherry on top.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] pricey2009:
I think it's going to be a few months at least until this is achieved..

Especially when no accomplished developers have confirmed they are trying to work it out yet..

I suppose we are just going to have to wait and see if it ever happens
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Griffiths_Anna:
developers! , where are you :'-(
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] cmvienneau:
ive been working on it. 4.4.4 is locked up tighter than an inmates butthole during shower time!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Treman:
Sorry, going to have to withdraw my $15... Like many others, I'm going ahead without.

Would absolutely love it if there were a way to add a copy of the DRM keys back later. But I won't hold my breath.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] istux:
You made my day :laugh:
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] spyvsspy:
i'm like a step before rooting the **** out of my device..

can't we find at least a decent camera app that will give good performance with a rooted device ?

i'm tired of waiting :crying:
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] ryanraven:
Root + Locked Bootloader... Never going to happen, sony says it wants to encourage developers yet say if you develop for their devices then the devices break then your screwed :')
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] maxp84z:
We should have a deadline as to help the developers get an exploit sooner. I say we should make it February 1st. If no root access is found by then. All pledges should be absolved. Then we can start over again if we want.. Because as of right now what incentive is there to come out with an exploit right away? I mean sure they can lose the bounty to someone else. But so far were not getting many ppl working on this. I wish I knew how to do this stuff. I don't. That's why I put up my own money for someone to do it for me.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] someone755:
How about no?

Let the bounty do its work. If it succeeds, great. If it does not, too bad, you don't get to pay to anyone. Stop trying to make things happen -- if anyone's working on this, they'll release it when it's done. If not, again, you don't get to pay anyone anything.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] charliebigpot:
Exactly. We did not pay anyone so we don't have the right to set deadlines or require any kind of feedback/status update. We did what we could do - if somebody succeeds you can be sure that we'll notice.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] aha360:
LMAO I would have to +1 on that!

On a serious note, I hope that this phone does have a locked bootloader root hack before February as maxp84z said, especially with the Z4 around the corner as well, making the Z3 obviously less relevant as a result. That said, I have a bad feeling that an exploit will most likely be available during the Z4's existence/release.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Howlbeck:
Well, would like to see root rather sooner than later myself, but then - this phone does what it is supposed to do. It's fast, has an amazing battery life, if I don't sit on it the glass doesn't break, if it gets cold and suddenly warm again, glass doesn't break either...

Coming from my battered S3 I'm just stunned about the battery - the s3 didn't even last half a day, now we are talking almost 20 hrs if I don't do too much of the latter. Really, this is awesome ! Didn't even try the saving modes (stamina etc) yet - need all hands on deck, not sleeping and reporting every 1 hour or so.

For adfree browsing I use Lightning (paid), don't do much games - so I don't care about ads.

Beginning to ask myself what I do need root for, really. As long as this thing does as advertized - I can live without.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] aha360:
You've got a problem right there: if people want to use a microSD card with unfettered read-write privileges on Android 4.4.x, you HAVE to gain root privileges just to do that, and if you're the sort of person that uses microSD cards and want root access from day one, this phone is sadly not for those kind of users.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muzab a:
Not a problem to him but to u
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] aha360:
Well, of course it isn't a problem to him but what I am trying to say is that people who use microSD cards are not gonna be pleased with unrooted Kitkat-installed phones.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] cschmitt:
SD card works fine for storing the bulk of music, pictures, and video. Plenty of internal storage for everything else I need. SD access will be fixed for file explorers, etc. in lollipop, which isn't far off.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] starfox5194:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGlvgeeU0vQ

That video explains some things about stack overflows. Want something to happen and know a bit about object oriented java or C++? Start by watching that.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] cyphomatic:
Sony got hacked and they obtained 100TB data. Maybe we should give the money to the hackers so they release all the DRM keys and tools?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] wooki:
I don't think that Sony pictures is close related to Sony mobile?

Send with my Xperia Z3 Compact
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] sununs11:
What had been hacked is sony pictures entertainment, not sony mobile.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] cyphomatic:
Dammit :)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] boojay:
LOL, maybe we should make a bounty to hack Sony Mobile then.

J/K
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] pricey2009:
Well this thread seems to be dying down quite a bit now, as are most people's hopes I guess, including my own.

Not looking good.. :(
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Canadian DJ:
All good things are worth the wait. And yes, there are people working on this right now, so just relax and wait!

http://xdaforums.com/z3/devs-only/root-exploit-t2946697
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] 0c3l0t:
Sony just launched an update (23.0.1.a.1.49)... Should I update phone or wait for root on current firmware?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Sadman Khan:
.5.77 is the latest actually. You're talking about an older firmware.

Sent from my Compact Beast The Third.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tribemac:
Just update
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] maxp84z:
I did a little research and 4.4 is iron clad. Not like any other version before it.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] sxtester:
Well then, let's wait for Android 5. New version = new bugs / vulnerabilities ;)

I've little to no doubts that someone (programmer) made a mistake somewhere...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] pricey2009:
Less chance than kitkat as Google have employed Geohot to do the security for them now..
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] sxtester:
So what?! Guess it would take 100x Geohot to review and fix the code (and the holes) 1000 programmers have produced.

The kernel has bugs, the UI has bugs, the runtime environment as bugs, one fine day someone will find something.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Wamseln:
I'm in for 20€.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] pricey2009:
Doubt it, companies learn over time and over model releases, they eventually block exploits out completely.. look how hard the ps3 was to hack for example and now the ps4 is tighter than a nuns twat.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] someone755:
Or rather, how tight the PS4 seems to be. What's to say the PS4 doesn't have a big hole in its security that nobody has found yet?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] ryanraven:
Who is actually working on root for Z3?? Anyone?? :/
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] xpsg:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2860...uld-put-a-hole-in-your-security-stocking.html

Good news everyone. New root exploit found in the Linux Kernel.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] lowtraxx:
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this is neither a real exploit nor does it really involve the kernel. Also it is not applicable to android, as android does not utilizes the wheel user group or the sudo command as far as I know. Redhead clarifies the "issue" in one of their support articles here.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Zwulf:
In the article posted by gregbradley is also mentioned that it affects Android, too. The statement by Redhead confirms that this could help to get a root exploit. Through this issue local users can be allowed to get root, as Redhead mentioned. In Android you don't need a password to install anything, so this could be the way for Z3.