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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] boojay:
That's pretty much what I was saying, that warranty is the main reason for wanting LB root now that a DRM patch for UB root is available. However, after a bit of brainstorming, I may have come up with another good reason to want LB root: OTA stock rom updates and no need to restore apps/settings.

Even if you restore features on UB root with the DRM fix and stick to Sony's stock rom, I imagine you might not be able to apply future OTA updates from them without complications, which ultimately isn't a big deal since you can flash the latest updates manually anyway, but that generally requires the messy process of having to wipe, flash, and restore apps/settings every time. I've grown quite tired of that headache over the years so ideally I'd like to have root and just apply updates whenever they're available and not have all my data wiped. I've had my fill of flashing custom roms and find stock Sony to be more than adequate.

Currently that's my understanding of what LB root would also offer unless someone corrects me. Please do if I'm wrong.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Moist:
People keep forgetting that there are people who can't unlock their bootloader...

I am fortunately not one of them, but saying that the DRM patch is the final solution is not accurate or fair.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] jakobxxl:
Put me up for $20. (PayPal)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] spyvsspy:
my thoughts exactly.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] pricey2009:
Does nobody understand that some people including myself do not have the option to unlock the bootloader?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tanago:
Yes indeed, users need Root with LB for many reasons

-some just need root access and nothing more

-some need it to backup the TA partition

-some cant unlock the bootloader so they are happy with whatever root is possible

-others want to flash custom ROMs
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] MarcraM90:
can anybody approve this?

http://xdaforums.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] caqo71:
Almost all carrier dependent phones cannot unlock their bootloaders.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Moist:
That's not the issue. The fact is that people are saying that root with LB is now pointless seeing as we have the drm solution, and what he was saying is that some people can't unlock their bootloader so it isn't actually pointless continuing to want a method to root without the bootloader being unlocked...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Depump:
When z3c can root with LB

i will buy it replace sp

:)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] aha360:
Read the title of the DRM Function mod thread - it is confirmed to work on the Xperia Z3, albeit with one or two features missing (for now).
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] GhostRaiderMX:
I'm still hoping someone manages to find an exploit for the T-mobile D6616 model. There's no way Sony has made the most secure bootloader ever. They're not the best in security if you know what I mean. That or maybe Sony sneaks in an exploit on the new Lolipop update so that developers can use. Would be nice if they did.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] someone755:
A lot of the people here don't seem to realize an exploit is something we use for obtaining root privileges, not the security "hole" we're using the exploit with to gain root access. What Sony should do, as you say, is leave a security threat to anyone that isn't a root enthusiast? You must realize these security issues that we could use an exploit on are also available to malicious apps that could steal valuable data -- in this case, anyone without root is not safe. That doesn't mean root privileges equal security, -- that is only true if you know what app gets granted superuser access and what that app's code can do -- that just means we can control which apps get granted permissions to read from or write to certain parts of our phone's storage.

You also don't seem to know it's not Sony making this security, this is built into Android -- this is what our OS has become. And with all this security up and running, there are now fewer and fewer ways for people, mostly those who use their phones for work, to get "h4xxed" and their data stolen.

Sony will also, under no condition, ever, implement a switch to simply enable root. Even the option of enabling "Unknown sources" is too much for most casual users. Imagine those shady-looking apps that you get as advertisements when browsing shady sites. A lot of them get granted permission to read your messages, internal or external storage and sometimes even write potentially malicious data to the device.

If the community wants root, that's fine by Sony. But they're not giving it out -- if you want it, you'll work for it until you find something you can exploit.

And while it is Sony behind the bootloader, there have not been development threads to try and unlock carrier-locked phones since the 2011 line. Nobody gives a sheet because most people don't get a locked phone. And those who do usually dispose of that phone not long after receiving it, or they keep it because they're either oblivious to the fact customization exists or they obtain root and live on with customizations available to them (eg Xposed, locked-bootloader ROMs etc).

EDIT: I just saw the wall of text I just wrote -- apologies to all, I was just really peesed off from what some of you have been writing.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] ElHechicero:
It's posible decompile system.sin to ext4 , inyect su/busybox/superuser and recompile all to a tft file to flash with flastool?.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] someone755:
Okay here I go again:

NO!

FTFs are created by Sony using their PROPRIETARY, CLOSED-SOURCE signature keys that WE DO NOT HAVE. Once you unpack an FTF, you'd need that key to resign and repack it, which you cannot DO because you do not HAVE the KEYS.

Stop trying to find some half assed way of getting root because you're not contributing at ALL. Either get your game up and look into the code or leave it to the people who already have the knowledge and experience to do this.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] cschmitt:
To be completly clear, the ftf is not signed, it's a regular archive that we can create using flashtool, but the sin files within the ftf are signed. The end result is still the same, you cannot modify the system partition to inject su, etc. and then expect to flash it to a locked BL device. It will fail.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Zwulf:
[MENTION=4275152]someone755[/MENTION] I don't want to pees you off but if I got [MENTION=4513061]cschmitt[/MENTION] right, your post is pointless. Sony could easily distribute a rooted signed image for the pleasure of their customers without affecting security for unrooted users, but they don't. I mean providing a separate additional image instead of a stupid unlock code on their website. There is no real reason for that except being restrictive and refusing customers to take full control over their device without losing functionality. It's not that nice people trying to protect the users.

I will not buy a Sony device again and will go back to Sammy or another manufacturer with my next device. Sony is the only one I know which intentionally refuses users to get root without losing features. And that is what peeses me off massively, much more than thoughtless posts. I really regret to have bought this device. No Greenify, no XPrivacy... that really socks.

Still hoping for an exploit, because selling this used device now means losing much money... :(
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] adwienc:
Exaclty. Meizu created 1-click root for its MX4 Pro and if someone wants to root he just has to click one button. And it doesn't affect security of device.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] someone755:
Apologies for that mistake. And thanks for the correction.

You forget the fact Sony doesn't want you to access the TA partition while the DRM keys are still there. "Paranoid" is the word used for Sony nowadays.* Root = access to that partition. You may root and you may restore most of these features. For now, at least -- that "fix" people are using nowadays is bound to get patched sooner or later.

*Paranoid isn't really the word, but I don't want to explain why Sony is doing what they're doing again.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Zwulf:
Yeah, I guess the "fix" will be patched away by Sony with Lollipop, so I won't use it till it's confirmed to work with 5.0, too (by guys who rooted already). I think I know what you mean with paranoid... ;) But even though some guy ported Sony Walkman and Clear Audio and put it into some MIUI ROM for i9300... lol.

So there is always a way... I hope for D5803 there will be one, too.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] vittogn:
It's not (only) Android. With my Nexus 5 I got root within days from KK release as well as for any incremental releases.

Same for OPO, LG G2, N4 and N10.... all running KK.

Then KK is an year old sw!

Today no root = no reliable backup of apps. Helium is nothing compared to Titanium.

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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] someone755:
It is Android. And at this point, I'm willing to bet it's only Android. Root a Nexus, fine. Nothing easier, right? Do it without unlocking the bootloader and with using the 4.4.4 release and it's a different story (one we're stuck with on the Z3 line, pretty much).

All those other phones running KK aren't worth jack because none of them were released with Android 4.4.4, making root simple. KitKat might be a year old, but there are 4 different versions of it, and each new one is more secure than the last.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] vittogn:
Good point about the bl. I'm pretty sure that I rooted my N5 without unlocking the bl, but I'm not sure.

Sony make the bl procedure like on Nexus, LG, and OP other wise the work you are doing about aosp will be much less relevant.

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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] zenneoiv:
I'm HTC fanboy, but i got new Sony Z3 few days ago, it's the first device from Sony of mine, feel down with the privacy policy of Sony devices. Then must be waiting for root access without losing features ( UB or LB). I swear i will pay for tools or any methods can get root access without losing any features for my device :D
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] jaime4272:
I'm so desperate on getting this tablet rooted that I'm considering unlocking the bootloader but loosing my DMR keys and lost of some functionality are stopping me from doing it. I'm wondering when are we getting lollipop so that people can start working on root for lollipop. Desperate I tell you
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] yacloo:
There is a exploit

i don't know is it arm/android comptabl or not

http://milw00rm.com/exploits/5745
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] fugitifduck:
great !

This exploit need to be adapted (expecially for the offset part).
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] yacloo:
i think it's not comptable with arm/android

probably it's only x86/64bit cpus

false alarm, sorry :)

http://blog.includesecurity.com/2014/03/exploit-CVE-2014-0038-x32-recvmmsg-kernel-vulnerablity.html
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] fugitifduck:
the only need is that the X32 ABI is set (and since this exploit is "old" it should be patched...).

ps: we also need these value to work : ptmx_fops, tty_release, commit_creds, and prepare_kernel_cred

here is another thread trying to exploit this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2565758&page=114
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] gregbradley:
This maybe the exploit I had heard about 7-10 days ago. I have since heard it was probably not Android compatible.

Keep going folks....
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] fugitifduck:
I just found an other exploit, this one should work since it has been patch only in 5.0 and was released last month

http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2014/Nov/51 (CVE-2014-7911).

edit : this exploit can't get (directly) root, but "just" give access to system user (uid 1000), maybe it is enough to have access to the DRM partition :)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] sxtester:
We had this one before (if I remember correctly). And no, system user (uid 1000) level access is not good/high enough to get access to the TA/DRM partition.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] GeoI777:
As I read in the link, System user is capable of installing apps with varying permissions, can't this be used to install a recovery, and the SU?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Dijk:
Not possible directly.

There seem to be good chances to escalate from system to root though.

Please read my earlier posts regarding this exploit.

Regarding the necessity of an exploit I think there are plenty of reasons why someone would want to root Android 4.4.4, or at least look for ways to do it regardless of the device - even if it is only for fixing them in 5.0.

Warranty also is a valid concern as it can save a lot of money in some cases.

Everyone has to decide on the importance for themselves.

Wishing Sony Mobile to get hacked or raging against them blindly will also not get anyone any closer to root.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] wars045:
how to donate?

i want donate 5 $

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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] epirater:
I'd love a root but I guess the main thing I'd want is more access to the external SD card - I don't even have all the apps I want installed and am struggling for space - it seems crazy to me.

Is that something Sony could allow without compromising security?

Also, the back glass spontaneously got a crack so I'd hope to try and upgrade to the next model with warranty or insurance when it comes out (or if not get it replaced anyway). Is that something that could be affected by unlocking the bootloader?

Thanks
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] someone755:
No SD card access without root until Lollipop. Q1 2015, they said so it's probably gonna come 31st March.

I can't imagine what you're installing that you're running out of space. Everyone that complains about the storage, really -- are you storing porn at 4K!? (i know you're not but seriously how many files of any format do you have on there -- ask yourself if you really need all that)

I'd recommend you to go complain about the glass crack ASAP to whoever sold you the device -- you can swap it for a newer model once it hits the store shelves.

About the warranty and the bootloader -- I know that unlocking doesn't void warranty if you're in the EU. If you're not, you should read on the laws you have over there. Wikipedia also has an article about unlocking; go check if your country has any special laws/bans on it.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] quarrymanpaul:
Has SD card access been confirmed in Lollipop?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Howlbeck:
+1

Have all my music and most movies on the external SD and they are playing without trouble. Even maps.me and Sygic work with storing their files/maps on external SD, currently I have about 6 gigs of internal memory in use - ok for me.

I'd also like root, but from all the benefits I have from this device I can surely wait - tempted, though ;)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] PherChe:
I'm not sure if I understand, because I don't speak English, but if I want to root my Z3C I need to do a donation? Or it's just a help for devs who are working to find a exploit to make it possible.

Thanks.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] pricey2009:
There is no exploit yet

Donation will be for who finds one first
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] BladeRunner:
$15 for an exploit that includes the z3v, also it must be a FREE exploit; if the exploit is a fee for service a la Sunshine, then my pledge is rescinded.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] yacloo:
There is a backup&restore app in phone

2012 Xperia devices can use to root same way with backuprestore app via adb restore exploit

Can We use same method for our devices

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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] veimus:
Sony fix that already
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] STR33TPIR8:
[BOUNTY] Z3 lineup - Root with LB method ***$ 3000.00+ GOAL REACHED***

I'm scared that no one will find an exploit :(
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] amintox:
cant we create a rooted ftf to be flashed using flashtool or cant we create a fake update server to push an update which will root the device ? i know people have tried so many things but at least we could share some ideas to speed up the process.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] pricey2009:
Nope. That has been discussed many times.. No one has the signing key that is required, only sony has it.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tndb:
Someone infiltrate Sony already got damit! ;)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] yacloo:
can we use fota kernel as primary kernel for TA backup or root at least it has been signed so we can flash the fota kernel

fotakernel's ramdisk contains adbd service and There are not many restrictions by the main kernel

of course needs to be approved by skilled dev :laugh:
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] epirater:
I don't store porn at 4K (unfortunately!) but if I wanted to shouldn't expect to be limited by such arbitrary and archaic technical restrictions!

So has SD card access been confirmed for Lollipop?

And for warranty, I am in Australia...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] someone755:
Just got an SD card and I actually can store 4K video on it. I can read it, but as far as I can see, I cannot write to it.

It's been confirmed by Google, do a quick Google on that and you'll find it.

As for the warranty, I have no clue. Again, check Wikipedia and check if you have any laws down there regarding this.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] STR33TPIR8:
I can write files on the external SD card, only using file commander. Other apps can't do that. Any clues?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] someone755:
KitKat has some SD card restrictions. Your inquiry only confirming that.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] AdiSimpson:
Because File commander is preinstalled by sony as system app.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Sadman Khan:
File commander is authorised by Sony and thus it is not a third party app.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] LilBlinx:
There will be exploit, we just need time and the desire to make. ;)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Moist:
I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but you make it sound like $3000+ is not good enough for it?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] someone755:
I do mean to sound rude, and you're acting like an arsehole.

You're not entitled to anything. Either quietly wait for a developer to come up with something and release his work to the public or quietly leave.

That said, I'm sorry I called you an arsehole but you really had it coming.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Gustavo RD78:
there are things that money can not buy!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Moist:
Weird, I put money up for root as well, now I'm an asshole for someone else talking about not having the "desire" to find an exploit when there is a reward of $3000+? I don't know about you, but to me $3000 is a lot of money, and when it gets thrown back in the face of the very people putting up the money... I think that's in bad taste. If I really was an arsehole, after the previous few comments I'd rescind my pledge, but I really do think that the person who does have this so-called "desire" should be compensated for his/her time.

I also never said I was "entitled" to anything. It was implied that the money pledged wasn't good enough for someone to consider taking on the experiment.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] LilBlinx:
I really don't know how you understood my previous post. I haven't said that I will make it, I want it, I need it. I have M2 with KitKat and can not be rooted, we are in the same track. There are many users that have more knowledge than me and I'm sure that for these 2 months that have passed, the root exploit would have been available for us but as I said time and the willingness is the problem. If I knew, I would sit and work on it, day and night until I get a final result. I'd even do it for free.

Enough with the off-topic!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] someone755:
Perhaps this will help you understand:

It's not about the money and it's definitely that "the money isn't good enough". This whole thread was an attempt to lure developers to this device to achieve root, not a promise of achieving root. Just because the money is there doesn't mean somebody has to (or will) do it -- it is merely an offering. Either nobody is interested, work is in progress, or our expectations are not fulfill-able.

You act as though your offer entitles you the right to demand somebody work on this.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Moist:
First of all, and for the second time, I am not demanding anything.

Secondly,

?

Thirdly, saying that something with the bounty that we have pledged, lacks "desirability" feels to me as a slap in the face.

Maybe it's just the way I understood, maybe I am justified in my thoughts. I do agree that for some reason that you think that I am acting entitled for saying that it is insulting for my offer to pay some money in to a developer as a form of goodwill as lacking desirability.

I'm just trying to help. If this was in my field of work, I would gladly contribute my skills, but it's not, so I offered some money as compensation. I then understood our "contributions" as being scoffed at, so I found it insulting. It seems I obviously misinterpreted what was being said. But then saying that I am acting entitled is completely baseless.

Anyway, this is the last I will post in this thread, because this is going around in circles and completely unproductive.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] j0ff:
Well I thought the comment from [MENTION=1675268]Moist[/MENTION] was perfectly harmless and legitimate. Feel free to flame me too :D

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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] yacloo:
there is some progress about dumping TA
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] amintox:
im just asking is there a way that we can modify the old Back up & restore app then use it to update our Back up & restore app and use it to root the device ?

edit: i was playing with flashtool and the rootkit of xperia z2 while the phone was on safe mode this is what i got in flashtool can someone please take a look at this picture.

[IMG="root"]http://i.imgur.com/xm8mjqY.jpg[/IMG]
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muzab a:
Link to source?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] vittogn:
At this stage, I'd say that it is more the desire than time!

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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] LilBlinx:
Install SuperSU and verify it with some app from play store root checker or something

EDIT: Error line at root explot 1. I doubt that it works
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] yacloo:
http://xdaforums.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/dev-xflasher-command-line-flasher-t2986634/page4
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muzab a:
Correct me if im wrong

Theyve been able to dump the drm keys but haven't figured how to create the file used to flash the xperia

---------- Post added at 01:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:35 PM ----------

I.e the ta.img
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] yacloo:
you are right

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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] arman68:
Possible exploit for pre 13 June 2014 firmwares...

On the Kindle Fire HDX forums, [MENTION=4450207]vortox[/MENTION] has just created a tool that allows us to sign custom recovery/boot images. This exploits CVE-2014-0973, which should be present in all pre 13 June 2014 Little Kernel bootloaders.

Is there any available ftf which qualifies as such?

I am not sure yet how this could be leveraged to get root, as root is needed before installing such a custom recovery on the Fire HDX. Maybe this would allow us to integrate a custom recovery inside a ftf?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] GeramanX:
Come on guys!

We just need to wait a couple more weeks and we'll surely get root for Lollipop.

I miss root a lot, but I'm willing to wait and get my Z3 full access.

I think devs are saving an exploit for us and they're going to surprise us as always. The same thing happened with the PSP(unhackeable for a while) and other devices in the past.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Nesousx:
Hi all,

I'll be offering $20 for the root of Z3C.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Dancube:
I'm happy to put in $20.