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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Wait holy crap the only reason I didn't get the xperia is because I thought the battery was normal on those. Also the xperia on display at my Verizon store had a million dots on the screen. All in a matrix. Depending on the angle you view it from you can see these bright little dots perfectly lined up as if its part of the hardware. That was a deal breaker for me. Can someone verify the xperia for me?

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As far as I know, I don't want a phone with a screen so poorly designed that you can see the multi touch matrix almost 100% of the time unless its midnight.

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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jaben2:
The dots are because of the screen type. My lg g2 was the same way, it isn't a huge deal but if you get a LCD display you will be able to see them..

I'm still debating on going to the z3v. But battery life seems to have improved dramatically for me. So we will see.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bkoltai9:
I picked up turbo and z3v for two different lines. Eventually one will get swapped for an iphone for my wife. I like the moto software, and all the sensors, but i just about always go for the xperia. Frankly it feels premium like an iphone and the camera is amazing after a little learning curve. Ive been taking photos of fast moving children for the last two days with excellent results. The lcd matrix is visible in glare, but ive never noticed them unless i was looking for them.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
For me when I was choosing between this and or the xperia was that the screen at the store has foggy lines vertically on the screen when using camera only. Also that the chassis is more z2 than z3.

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Same here the battery has significantly improved too on my turbo. Many people don't realize the battery needs to break in and get used to use
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] thegrants82:
The battery may get a little better over time but the camera on the turbo will forever be a total joke;) the z3v smokes the turbo in every aspect. I want to love the turbo but it's not in the same league.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jaben2:
I don't know that I can say that at this point. So far I think between the two design wise it is preference on looks. However from looking thru the z3 forum, I'm seeing lots of quality control issues including camera issues where it will overheat quickly. That and light bleed, and misaligned screens and cracked screens and backs.

I'm not trying to downplay the z3v and I don't know if those issues are as prevalent on that version as the actual z3.

The only problems I'm really seeing on the turbo is people expecting more battery life out of it.

I don't take a lot of pictures so camera don't really matter to me.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
If the z3 is actually a better phone I'm going to go swap out my phone for the z3. But I mean at the store the specs are listed almost exactly the same. I'm confused how I blatantly missed a comparison that made the obvious choice a z3.

Are you willing to clarify the specs that smoke the turbo? I need to do this before my 14 days if I make the swap.

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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jaben2:
Specs and on paper the turbo is clearly the winner. Better display, bigger battery, newer processor.

However posts and what I've been seeing the z3v is beating the turbo with screen on time.

I personally would have swapped already for that phone, but then I think why not just go back to my g2.

Same screen, has wireless charging, same size display. Still get that dot matrix from the LCD. And a good camera. Only real difference between the two is lgg2 is I believe a snapdragon 800, not a 801.

I just want a new phone and am hoping this turbo works for me.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] schwartz.matthew.e:
The z3v is a z2.. Literally. And the moto turbo uses a Sony sensor. I'm not defending turbo or the z3v.. But just stating the facts. The z3v is an old phone before it even came out.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] thegrants82:
All that I can say is that I tried both extensively and the z3v has a far better camera and better battery life. The moto camera is a typical moto camera, you need perfect lighting and a non moving target to get any kind of decent picture. It's useless unless you are taking pictures of trees. The battery on the turbo is also sub part to the z3v. These are facts, not my opinions. If you have a turbo you know what I mean.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Im satisfied with the Moto Camera, ive only done extremely low lighting pictures and of my cats jumping around. Appears to catch detail easily with moving targets. As far as battery life goes. Im going on 22 hours with 4.2 hours screen on time and I'm at 37% - the battery seems to get better every day. I like the idea that the z3v is waterproof... but visible touch screen matrix, an LCD display with much lower resolution than the turbo, and a previous generation qualcomm? Im not trying to create a debate here but i think "smoked" was the wrong term to this phone. The visible matrix seems like such a huge design flaw. I have never in my life seen this on a phone nor do i think its acceptable. It really killed it for me, complete deal breaker :(

I cant repeat it enough, the visible dots and that being normal? that truly boggles my mind. and from Sony? I expected more in terms of common sense.

The only sense I can make out of the reason they used this kind of display was so that the phone's touch screen would work well underwater..... but unless they are specifically marketing to a huge group of Scuba Divers this seems like the dumbest decision ever made by a large company's development team. Just mind boggling to me.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Keekers:
Me too...I can't decide...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] thegrants82:
If your saying that your turbo is taking low light pictures of moving targets then I have got to call a huge BS. That is just simply not true. Sorry but there is no need to make stuff up like that.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] timmyd463229:
I have the note 2 and still love it and I wasn't going to consider the note 4 but it seems that nobody really had complaints other than touch wiz itself. But I don't know if I could go down in size.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Keekers:
Are any of these phones less prone to cracked screens and scratches?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Check it.

Here I'll upload some, relax.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] thegrants82:
U

I am relaxed but it just simply is not possible for the turbo to shoot moving targets in any light, let alone in low light. Post whatever you want but it's not possible with the massive shutter lag on the turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Cats walking around, literally only one lightbulb on in the entire room. This is pretty good from what im coming from (s4) - I'm not a professional photographer so its hard for me to say whats good and what isnt good. As far as i can tell these are the best pictures ive ever gotten from a cell phone in this kind of lighting. I have no clue what the z3v pics look like so its hard for me to compare to the z3v. I may have a diluted perception of the camera quality since im coming from an s4, its all i have to compare. Im just happy with a product a bought is that bad? lol.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] thegrants82:
Yes.....that's a turbo camera. I won't argue with that.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
I mean like I said, I dont expect DSLR quality, thats why I have a DSLR... But Im also not a professional photographer so its hard for me to say that these are bad pictures. I hope I didnt mislead anyone.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] thegrants82:
It's all good. That's totally believable for turbo pics. Thanks for the post.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pwhitersxs:
Ya know, you are going through multiple threads spreading hate on the turbo. I don't get it. Do you actually have the phone?

And what is wrong with those pictures? They look good to me.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] thegrants82:
Calm down. If you are happy with your pics then.that's all that matters. Good luck.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] schwartz.matthew.e:
Lol. Guys the specs of the z3v prove it alone...last year screen and processor etc etc. It's not the z3..its the z2. Turbo isn't the best camera. But it isn't that bad either. The lag initially sucks, but that'll get fixed as its software. Battery life is not better on the z3v..I can see maybe similar but not better.

Either way, these are great phones. Try them both out and see which one feels better. If one feels better than the other, then there's your new phone. Otherwise, start a priority list and see which one hits what you want the most.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mrgigabyte2002:
You're pics look good to me also
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] DJ Sandman:
I had the pleasure of experimenting with just about every Verizon smartphone this Fall. Before my OCD kicked in, I narrowed my preferences to 3 phones... the Moto X Gen 2, the Z3V and Turbo. I started out with the Moto X Gen 2, then swapped it for the Z3V. I was hoping that the Turbo would come out before my grace period ended on the Z3V, but oh well... I did want that 48 hour battery life lol!

Excluding my OCD, the deal breaker for me is that the Z3V can mirrorcast on my Sony Bravia HDTV. The Motorola phones can't currently support mirrorcasting or MHL.

If it weren't for that aspect, the Turbo wins first place (even tho I have "limited experience" with it twice in 2 stores, I still think it's the best phone out there right now) followed ever so slightly by the Moto X Gen 2. The Z3V isn't a bad phone, but it gets third place.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ska4fun:
Not true. Noobish comment to be true. Nexus 4 is the best example of a ''poor'' camera, improved by software, on jellybean 4.3 and KK 4.4.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cstone1991:
Those pictures don't have any problems created by a laggy shutter. The only problem they have is poor lighting due to.... you guessed it, poor lighting in the room. Now the front camera I will admit is pretty poor on this thing. Even in decent lighting they turn out a bit on the grainy side.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] schwartz.matthew.e:
You can use dlna to share many things to your bravia TV :). Just FYI since any phone supports dlna. I have a few Sony TV I share too myself. I worked for Sony many years ago too.. Their TVs are awesome!!!!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Jaxle67:
I think If I had it to do over again I'd skip this round of phone coming out and waited till the next round. It wasn't like I needed a new one I just wanted one. Certainly can't be the only one like that. I agree with the guy that said the turbo was a bit overhyped and I wanted to be absolutely blown away with it. The only thing I thought that made it stand out in the crowd for me was the ballistic material. I think that was a good design point with all the plastic showing nowadays. Anyway every device has its good and bad points . overall I think the note 4 was the better choice for me but there is always the thought maybe u should have kept it a few more days. Have fun guys. Jesse
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] SFG:
I debated between the ballistic turbo and the z3v. First off on build quality the turbo wins hands down. The z3v looks nice but it's a fingerprint magnet. Upon reading some reviews on the z3v it turns it out that it's not actually a variance of the real z3 but a disguised z2. Not saying that the z2 was a bad phone but it's a ****ty thing for Verizon and sony to pull off. My last good phone before my brief stint with the s5 was the razr Maxx hd. Probably one of the best if not the best phones that I've ever owned prior to the turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] hoodieNation:
I went with the Z3v for the camera. I'm not disappointed whatsoever. I love having the dedicated button for it. That being said I'm still here cruising the Turbo forum cuz I was so torn between the two. They're both bad ass.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] SFG:
Guess I have 2 weeks to change my mind. Glad you like it. Keep us posted on how you re liking it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
I was going to get the z3v but it's just a z2 in disguise. What's the difference really having the z3v to the turbo in screen quality, battery, sound, quality, camera. I have still the ability to get it within the 14day exchange or return policy.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lukesdiesel:
I love my Turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rglebien:
IMO the turbo has a great camera... for a phone. No self respecting photographer rates himself based on the quality of his phone's rear camera. This point seems completely moot to me.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cstone1991:
Agreed. My turbo has a great camera for a phone. Hell, my old S3 or even my older Dinc2 had a fine camera for a phone. No phone camera will ever stand up to my Canon DSLR for when I want really nice pictures though.

Anyone who thinks that any phone is capable of taking truly great pictures probably also thinks that they actually need more than a 12mp camera to take those pictures too.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pegs520:
So far, I like most of it. The only thing that's bothering me is that I've had it for a week, and the battery's still disappointing.

I didn't expect 48 hours, but I expected at least as good as my maxx HD when it was new. I remember getting 6+ hours of screen out of that, but I haven't gotten any more than 4 hours of screen time yet from my turbo.

Kinda disappointed, and leaning towards grabbing the z3v. I've got another week to decide, so I guess I'll wait and see for a few more days.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cstone1991:
It also has a half inch bigger screen than the maxx HD and double the resolution with only 600mAh in the battery. You should expect a little less screen on time. The processor is also significantly faster, although I have no clue about the efficiency of the 2 processors, speed doesn't always mean more power hungry.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joshm.1219:
Actually if you do the pixel math it's 4 times the resolution, assuming the Maxx HD had a 720p screen.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] INCREMENTAL:
Just got mine last night, used off Craigslist 64gb for $475. Mint condition, I jumped all over it. I'm loving it, can't believe all the complaints I've read on here and none of them are lining up.

My earpiece is more then loud enough, u guys must have hearing issues and my sound effects ain't even disabled. The screen is awesome and plenty bright, the camera seems to take great pictures, nothing wrong with the front camera as well, signal seems just as good as my past motos.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joshm.1219:
Damn that's an awesome deal congrats bro! Yeah a few whiny people can make a lot of noise.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cstone1991:
You're right. Math is not my strong suit at 3:00 AM.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joshm.1219:
nothing is my strong suit at 3am lol
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] INCREMENTAL:
Yeah I can't believe it when I saw the price. Thanks man.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pegs520:
Then how are people getting 10 hours of screen time from this? Did they swap out screens and processors? Lol.

I'm not asking for much. It's a bigger battery, I'm expecting better than what I'm getting. It's not like I'm programming on this ****, just surfing the internet and using hangouts.

I wish I waited at least until lollipop came out so that I could try it with lollipop and exchange it if it still sucks. Oh well. Hopefully the battery improves, I'll see I guess.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
That's my same reaction and I at times think that they don't charge to 100% to get this stats.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joshm.1219:
It shows if you charged in the battery stats, so you can see they didn't. It's all about how you use your phone and how bright toy usually keep your screen, etc.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pegs520:
You sound like a Verizon employee.

I'm guessing there's a break-in period still - but then again, 7 days later, and I'm still waiting for my phone to break in. Meanwhile, some schmuck gets 8 hours of screen time out of the box.

Oh well, 7 days to go. I'm still taking a wait and see approach, but there's also still a good chance I'll flip to the z3v or the note 4.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joshm.1219:
Lol nope I'm in the ice cream business, although your statement makes no sense. Of course battery is mostly based on usage. But I wouldn't expect the Turbo to perform especially well in battery efficiency just because of the QHD screen.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cstone1991:
The only people I've seen posting truly ridiculous SOT's mentioned that they have extreme battery saving settings to get them, if you turn off a bunch of features like them, you will probably see a significant improvement as well. Keep in mind that signal strength also has a huge impact on battery life.

IMO, if I easily get a full day from my phone I'm happy. I don't want to limp through a second day.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] distortedloop:
Best post in this thread.

Absolutely correct that the way to get that kind of screen time is to disable features and dim the screen all the time.

That said, I don't disable any features and can easily get 5-6 hours SOT with my Turbo. I generally use auto brightness, but actually crank it up a bit when the room is dark.

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[XDA Assist] antmatos:
Hi there.

I have a Note 3 replica N9006, and when i try to talk on the phone the person on the other side can´t ear me correctly.

I'm looking for replacement part but i can´t figure the name of the part to correctly search and purchase, and if there is a part to purchase.
[XDA Assist] Darth:
Hi,

You are referring to a Note 3 clone if I understand correctly? If so, asking for help here would be best,

> Android Development and Hacking > Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Good luck!
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zmuda:
Hi to all, one question :

When I write a text message, and add a smile, the message is automatically converted to MMS.

How can I avoid this?

Is there a solution?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ShadowLea:
If you use the default Android emoticons it will remain a text message.

If you use the emoticons from Swiftkey or another, those are images and as such cause it to become a media message. That can't be avoided.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zmuda:
I don't use swiftkey, but default android keyboard .

But if i insert a smile (a round face), SMS is converted to MMS.

-Anyway thanks for your answer.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ShadowLea:
Because those aren't the Android smileys. Those are under Options > Insert Smiley. They're not an image in the text field, but are still the actual symbols. They become a smiley in the dialogue.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zmuda:
Ok, i understand.

In fact i tried it after your suggestion: sms with emoticon , don't change to MMS.

You were very kind. Now everything is clear.:):):)
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TokedUp:
So VZW is offering a 2 line plan, 10gb to share, unlimited t+t, for $80 (and my employee discount will make it even cheaper) until December 31st! My gf and I are going to go in together to get this since we each pay around $70-$80 for 2gb plans already. Only problem is I have to upgrade my phone before I switch or I will lose my upgrade eligibility. I hate all the other phones out right now and really want a N6.

So I ask my fellow XDA members to speculate whether or not the N6 will be available on VZW before 12/31/14. I know there is no date set, im just looking for some opinions.

TIA and I hope some of you get the same deal as was offered to me. BTW on the commercial it says that the 10gb share plan is $110 but when I called to ask they said it was only $80.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dualityim:
When you sign up for the new service, won't you be able to get two devices at the upgrade-subsidized price anyway?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TokedUp:
No because my GF and I are combining plans and she just got an upgrade a month ago.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] datajosh:
My guess is no, but there's nothing close to concrete yet.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rkennison:
No one knows. You can guess as well and have a 50/50 shot at getting it right just like everyone else...
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akellar:
Pretty sure the $80 is just the data portion. You'll need to tack on $40 per device on top of that.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dualityim:
Did Verizon change how family plans work? I thought that if you sign up for two lines, you get to buy two devices at the on-contract price. Since your GF is not eligible for an upgrade, you should still have one line left that is eligible to purchase at the on-contract price?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigyak22:
I think it will. Probably right before Christmas. They want the droid turbo to get all the attention before they put out the Nexus 6.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frigidazzi:
Or just get a new iphone with your upgrade and sell it on craigs list or ebay and use the money to buy a nexus 6 off contract from google or moto ect and use that on verizon.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgloki77:
if you dont care much about custom ROMS or root , pick up the droid turbo, I play with one for a bit from a friend, is a SICK device 3900mah battery, 805 chipset, 5.2 qhd display and stock android with moto futures, cant go wrong with it
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TokedUp:
You're posting on XDA and you think I won't care about custom roms or Root? LMFAO cmon man!

Droid Turbo sucks IMO, no SD Card and ugly as hell. Also I have a bad feeling the Dev community will be small. No thanks, i'll pass. This is my chance to get a Nexus device on VZW, im all for it and will wait as long as I have to.

Dont want to turn this thread into a device conversation. Im just looking for opinions on whether or not ppl think the N6 will drop before 12/31/14 so I can get that sweet deal.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] impala454:
According to the specs I've seen, the Nexus 6 won't have an SD card slot either, have you heard differently?

My opinion is the Nexus 6 will be available easily before 12/31/2014.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TokedUp:
No it wont have an SD card slot BUT it does come in a 64gb option unlike the DT.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RemnantKing2:
The Droid Turbo DOES in fact come with a 64gb option as well....
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TokedUp:
What? I was just at the store and they said only 32gb. Maybe he meant they only had 32gb in stock. I stand corrected, thanks!
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshm.1219:
I have it on good authority that Verizon will see the Nexus 6 before 12/31/15. Not sure about 12/31/14
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TokedUp:
:\ LOL