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[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] speculatrix:
I have a micro4/3rds Lumix when I want to take good pictures, so I am not too bothered by the camera on the ZXU being just OK in fair light but poor in bad light.

You'd have thought it'd be big enough for twin LED flashes!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] H. E. Pennypacker:
We'll have to wait for Lollipop to see if the new camera APIs makes any difference on the Ultra, but by the looks of it, it'll make a huge difference (according to a couple of articles i've read on the subject). The camera will be able to take uncompressed RAW photos, and we'll be able to use camera apps that doesn't apply Sony's proprietary compression tech etc, which isn't possible pre-Lollipop.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
Sounds promising, now if someone could just make an NFC attachable flash like the NFC attachable buttons then it won't be missing anything
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] H. E. Pennypacker:
Not NFC, but check this out.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
Pretty cool but thats kinda big. Hopefully they make another cheaper version with just a standard flash instead of 4 of them. That would be perfect. I'd get one for sure just in case if it was around 20 dollars. But now I'm interested and I'm gonna look around to see what other options there are
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] lekhwani:
Interesting thread. I am also getting my Sony Xperia ZU tomorrow. I had the similar questions in my mind as asked by the op.

So thanks to OP, and many thanks to all those who have replied. Just can't wait.

BTW, I have ordered a White Version. Hope it looks beautiful.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
Awesome! Good to see other people interested in it as well so it will stay active in here. Hopefully with the price drops even more people will buy it. I've decided on getting black even though I like the white look better. The black just looks more uniform when using the screen and nothing on the sides to distract from the screen. The silver frame around the black front on the white just send kinda distracting to me for some reason
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
Anyone have this camera attachment lens ( it's pretty much a camera) seems like a great deal for 138 dollars and it would be great alternative to the 8 megapixel camera on ultra. Plus i saw low light pics and video and they're amazing

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=161474186957&alt=web
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] H. E. Pennypacker:
I believe a couple of people here have it. I don't, so this post stops here :cool:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] blueether:
[MENTION=4642591]hamdogg[/MENTION] has one
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] hamdogg:
Yeah I had one. I sold it when my Ultra cracked, and insurance gave me the Z2.

It was a great unit, but practicality was lacking. Having to carry it around. Might as well carry an actual DSLR.

But if you don't own a DSLR, then its def. something thats better than the 8mp sony sensor... so it might be a good purchase for you.

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blu have you guys got that new update?

the one with the larger icons, and slightly changed settings menu?

man what a waste of space that was! I reverted. Kept freezing my system. touch would stop working when ever the phone got hot, and leaving it on my desk would make it hot.!! also using the camera for more than 2 minutes!..

So dodge that bullet if you can!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] blueether:
We are still on 108 (118 for vodafone EU/SA). I believe z1/z2 got 136? and there is another one just passed fcc?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] hamdogg:
We got .167 official last week, but thats the dud. Don't touch it. :crying:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
My brother has a z2, should I tell him not to update? He was going to using PC companion but I'll tell him to wait
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] lekhwani:
Received mine about 4 hours back. Came with 4.2 and 20 % battery.

Put it to charge and download.

It first downloaded 4.3. Installed it.

It then downloaded 4.4.2.

Installed it.

First impressions:

This is Android Nirvana. Period.

No device can match it.

Currently possess LG optimus G Pro. Have had more than 60-70 mobiles and Tablets since the advent of Android. Across all OSes.

And, the size is not big for me at all as I have big hands and my height is 6 feet .

It is much smaller than a 7 inch tablet.

Beauty..pure awesomeness...And mobile gadget Nirvana.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
Which one did you get? Gpe or stock version? And sounds great because I'm 6'1" with really big hands (and feet lol makes it hard to find soccer cleats) so this will be pretty good in my hands. I have a g2 right now and I like it's size but sometimes it just feels too small. I like to read on my devices and watch movies and shows too and got reading my nexus 10 is too big when laying in bed so this will be perfect in between device. I was planning on holding out a little longer to see if it drops even more on cyber Monday but I don't think I can wait 2 weeks. I might just order it this weekend.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] lekhwani:
I got the standard Sony XPERIA Ultra version.

By the description you have given about yourself, I can tell you you are going to love it. It's much bigger than g2 and much smaller than a 7 inch tablet.

You will have to have it to experience this thing which is much bigger than g2 and much smaller than a 7 inch tablet.

Theoretically, it may seem it's only a tad smaller than a 7" tablet. But two things here come in place. As you go higher in size, every inch increases the screen state much higher than the previous one inch increase.

For example screen state increased by going from 5 to 6 inches is much more than going from 4 to 5 inches.

So, 6.44 of ULTRA may seem only .56 inch short of 7 inch. But it's equal to about 1 inch screen state of going from 5 to 6 inches.

So, despite being 6.44, it's still much smaller and much more compact ergonomically.

Second thing, the bezels on a tablet are too large, which also contributes to the ULTRA being much smaller than a 7 inch tablet.

Please ignore, if it was a little too much gibberish[emoji4] [emoji2] [emoji6]
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] hamdogg:
Yes tell him to wait. I bet Sony will address the issue before the year's end, and another update will be out before we get 5.0
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
OK thanks that made sense. And just curious what color did you get on it? I'm torn between white and black. The silver frame on the white looks so nice but I feel like the black overall just looks better as a whole.

OK thanks. I told him to wait now let's see if he listens lol [emoji19]
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] E90 Commie:
I took the black version last year and again this year. It looks much better in black as I see it. Xperia Z looks great in white but there is something about the Ultra which make black a better looking color.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
I just saw the z2 on eBay for 400$ brand new. Vs the z ultra 315$ brand new. Made me second guess my self but I'll probably still go with z ultra. That 75$ difference can be saved for next upgrade in which case I could keep the ultra as a mini tablet and backup device while the z2 would just become a backup device I never use. Can't wait to finally get one of these in my hands. I'll probably order it tomorrow so I'll get it by Friday and have time to play with it and set it up over the weekend
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] H. E. Pennypacker:
I would still go with the Ultra. We'll get (fully functioning) Lollipop a lot sooner than the other models. We have the GPe.

So we do have that going for us, which is nice :laugh:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
Yeah that's what I'm planning on doing. 801 processor is barely an upgrade over the 800 and GPU is the same still. Only real upgrade is the camera and amount of ram. Plus the z ultra has its screen going for it. I could get the z ultra for 315 and if the camera isnt satisfactory enough I'll just get the qx10 attachment for 120 on eBay and even cheaper if I get a used one. That thing looks awesome but I probably won't even need it. I'm most likely gonna order one tomorrow and it'll be final. If I really end up not liking it there's 14 days return period. But I'm feeling like I'll be in love with this phone.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sadman Khan:
The real upgrade is the battery life in my opinion :P
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
For z2 or z ultra? I'm assuming since battery sizes are almost (z2 is bigger right?) the same and z2 has less screen to power it has better battery but I've heard the z ultra has decent battery. Is it a problem for anyone? I keep hearing rumors about z4 and z4 ultra and z4 tablets coming early 2015. Maybe this will drop the price of the z ultra even more. I would be interested in a z4 ultra with updated camera and other stuff but I feel like if a z4 ultra comes out it'll be more than the z4 itself since they're supposed to have similar specs.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] appleknight:
I would buy it from Sony not Amazon
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sadman Khan:
From Z ultra to Z2 is what i meant. There's a huge difference in battery life
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
Why on amazon it's brand new and sealed box for 65 dollar's less. Comes with all original stuff like headphones and charger. If I got it from Sony I might as well get a z2.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] appleknight:
Because Sony will sell you a $50 accident plan, also I recommend the hardened glass protectors for front a back, I got the m-glass brand for around $31

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But, by that same coin the $50 protection is pointless if u get the protectors as u have to remove the stock asf and rear protector put on by Sony, and that voids your warranty
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
I'll probably just get it from amazon and put a slim hard case on it. Is it fragile or something? I know it's really think but I hope it doesn't break very easily. I was hoping it was like the z2 which can withstand a fall
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] appleknight:
A lot of people are reporting shattered glass from bending, the hardened glass protectors on both sides seem to make it a bit stronger, so be careful if u have it in your pocket, even my 6806 is a little bent
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
That's a bit disconcerting, I guess that's from being so thin. I guess I'll hold out another week or two before getting one just to make sure. With black Friday around the corner there's bound to be other deals. If Sony puts it on sale on their site then I'll get it from them with the 50 dollar coverage but the main reason I wanted this was because the price so I won't but it from them at the current price
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] appleknight:
I bought mine right before the price drop, I was pissed!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] E90 Commie:
I don't consider it a fragile device but I would never ever dream about having it in a regular pant pocket; I only carry mine in my cargo pants or cargo shorts during the summer, otherwise in my breast pocket.

All it takes for keeping the Ultra happy is normal care and yes, it can withstand a fall but it depends on how it lands and where. I dropped my C6802 one time without any damages (into the floor).
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
Most of the time I wear sweat pants or athletic pants and sometimes jeans. I probably wouldn't put it in my jeans pockets (when though they're regulars not skinny) but it'd probably be fine in the others.

Sent from my VS980 4G
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] E90 Commie:
The first post in this thread talks about 7 hours screen time on the Z2:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2741281

On my C6833, I got around 6 hours on screen time and there are a couple of things that can be done for improving battery life. Since I use the GPe ROM, DeepSleep Battery Saver Pro is the main tool and it gives a decent improvement (think about it as Stamina Mode but more configurable).

There is also Amplify for Xposed Framework (wakelock/alarm control) and Disable Service (eliminate unnecessary processes). Greenify is a classic.

The Z2 has a slightly more power efficient CPU (Snapdragon 801) and a smaller screen with updated tech but the rest is software tweaks to the Stamina Mode etc, which can be implemented on the Ultra. DS Battery Saver is a great tool for this.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] adfurgerson:
There is also Unbounce module for xposed that lengthens the interval between location services check in. I put regular plastic type wet apply screen protectors on directly over the asf as soon as I got the phone and have been happy with the results.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] appleknight:
I carry mine in the front pocket of my Levi's just fine
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] H. E. Pennypacker:
I carry mine in the front pocket of my slimfit pants. Sure, it pops up a little, but it ain't bad. I do however remove it from my pocket before i sit down. You want a "bendgate"? Because that's how you get it. It took some time getting used to it when it was brand new, but you get used to it pretty quickly, and i don't even think about how i'm carrying it anymore. It's second nature.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] appleknight:
Yup
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] H. E. Pennypacker:
It happened again. I dropped it face first onto a concrete floor. Aftermath? Not a scratch! This is the second time the gods of Android watches over me. Jesus Christ I'm lucky! Some people here have cracked their screens by only looking at it, while my Ultra is jumping down hills and dives head first onto concrete floors, and brushes it off like it's nothing. The hell is going on?

I actually think that the Anti Shatter Protector is doing its job here. It's really annoying, but god damn it, it does its job well.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] rob61280:
I've been lurking and reading this thread and others like it for a while. As I bought a Z Ultra the other day, I thought I'd post about my experience so far.

I bought the ZU to replace a Nexus 7 (2013) as it is getting a bit long in the tooth, and I fancied a change. Initially I thought the device was too small to be a suitable replacement, but after using it for a few days I've changed my mind.

The build quality is much better than the N7, and the screen size is more than adequate for web browsing and making the odd note. It is very easy to type on in portrait mode, using both hands. Aside from the much better build quality, I find that the ZU performs significantly better than the N7 and the quality of the screen is very similar (i.e. excellent).

I'm using a GPE rom on the Xperia model, and device feels like it sits part way between the Nexus 6 and Nexus 7, both in terms of performance and form factor. I'm not using the ZU as a phone, I have a Nexus 5 for that, and the performance of both devices is largely similar.

I'm looking forward to running Lollipop on the ZU, as it feels strange to be replacing a N7 running 5.0 with the ZU running 4.4.4 :) I hope my experience is useful to others considering buying the ZU now it has been discounted.

R
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
This review describes it perfectly in my opinion Sony Xperia Z Ultra First Impressions:

http://youtu.be/fTBUJU3Beww

I hope Sony makes a 6 inch phone. Seems like it would be perfect that way. I really still want a phone I can take out of my pocket while sitting down (would be hard in school to keep it out the whole time)

I feel like if I could actually try the phone in person it would be so much easier but I can't find it at any retailers. I don't wanna order it offline without using it because they all charge restocking fees (20% which is around 65$).

I guess I'll wait until January. CES and see what Sony has planned. If nothing new then I'll get this and maybe it'll be even cheaper :D. Also didn't sony release a WiFi version? I can't find it anywhere.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] H. E. Pennypacker:
Find some cardboard and scissors, cut it at 179.4(L) x 92.2(W)mm, or 7.06(L) x 3.63(W) in. The thickness (6.4mm) isn't important in this case.

Voila! You have a cardboard Ultra, and you can put it in your pocket and see how it is. Warning, you'll laugh. I and some others also did this before we bought the Ultra.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
I think I'll do this. Got plenty of empty cardboard boxes. I'll sit down with it and see how it is. I'm sure the ultra will be fine in athletic pants even when sitting but in jeans it doesn't look like sitting with it in there will work out. I think I'm gonna do that with a nexus 6 size phone too and compare to see what I feel more comfortable with
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] wingzero:
I wanted to thank the op for this topic. I was eyeing this device ever since it was released but the price prevented me from pulling the trigger. I was comparing the Nexus 6, Sony Z3 Tablet Compact , and the ZU. The Z3TC was quickly out of the equation due to its size. I just can't imaging myself carrying an 8" phablet/tablet everywhere I go. The Nexus 6 - the latest and the greatest but it's hard to get and its price. I would rather save the money for the leaked Z4 Ultra - fingers crossed.

So I finally sold my beloved Galaxy Note 2 yesterday and quickly came home to order the ZU (black) from Amazon for $315. I think the price is right and probably will not drop much around Black Friday. The phone will be here Monday. In the mean time, I have much to read on how to root and unlock bootloader. Any good roms your guys can recommend? Thanks.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] frothe3:
I love the size, but it is a fingerprint magnet, and needs both a case and screen protectors, front and back. I bought a used one, which seems to have many issues. Both software and hardware.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] E90 Commie:
What issues? Both my C6802 and C6833 works perfectly.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] H. E. Pennypacker:
Stock ROM with Xposed should do the trick, or a stock based ROM. The GPe port is also available if you prefer AOSP, and then just couple it with Xposed. Both are rock solid, so you can't go wrong either way. Lollipop should also be out for the GPe Ultra pretty soon, so you can also flash that when the time comes and it has been ported over to the regular Ultra. There is a Lollipop build now, but it's in a very early stage and is not usable as a daily driver, so don't touch that yet.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] wingzero:
Thanks for the tips H.E.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] frothe3:
I picked one up on Ebay, used unfortunately.

Software issues, since it did NOT come with the SIM card ? tray. Have to wait for that .

No sound ? through speakers ? or ? jack, only Bluetooth , which I knew about .

But trying to "repair" per instructions by Sony has caused other software issues as well, plus random shutdowns and bootups .

So, off to repair it must go.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] H. E. Pennypacker:
What firmware are you on? It won't fix the hardware issues, of course, but i'm curious since you're experiencing shutdowns etc.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] squeakywipers:
Bought a new one from B&H Photography. Available via Expansy as well. Coming from a Note 2 that I used for about 3 years. I rooted my new Ultra and everything is working out great, really happy with it. The back does scratch easily so a case is recommended.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] frothe3:
OS 4.4.4 firmware build 14.4.A.O.108

Had a different firmware build when I looked before.

Phone only plays through Bluetooth, not through headphones or external speakers, except upon bootup, which I NFC either headphones or speaker, which are both Sony.

If I do not do this on time, Walkman app goes haywire, no video playback at all, nor music streaming through Tune In app.

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Plus, random shutoff and reboot usually happens within the first five minutes of phone powered on.

Mind you, using airplane mode only, since the mobile phone DID NOT come with the SIM card tray :(

But this should not have any effect on the performance of the mobile phone at all.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] blueether:
I don't know about 4.4.4 but 4.2 would turn off without a sim in it.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] wingzero:
Just a heads up- Sony.com is selling the c6808 for $270 (.edu email required). I already brought the c6833 and it's working great on TMobile. I really wanted to get one for the wife but it does not get lte on tmobile.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Pro4Eva:
Just got one for my fiance for 280 USD here in India, Be the smart one buy one if u can cos in my opinion this is the best aged phablet for the price
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
OK I think that just sealed the deal for me. I was waiting for black Friday to see if the price got cheaper I doubt it'll get cheaper than that. Lucky for me I'm taking college courses this year on my senior highschool year so I have a .edu address. That's another 45$ cheaper than amazon and I can just use that to pay for the warranty through Sony and no worries about cracking anymore [emoji106]
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] wingzero:
Ha! Finally pulled the trigger!? Yeah this is too good a price to let it pass. I just picked up another one for the wife. It should work ok with tmobile's lte.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] alphahere:
Yes to both if you have a Google voice number setup on your account. I am doing the same as the other poster mentioned already. Works well and the voice quality is better than my cell service phone quality.

Test it out.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] frothe3:
I saw on the Sony Store the 6806 going for $299.99. For early Black Friday deals, amongst others they had.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] corrado85:
has anyone upgraded from C6802 (non-lte) to C6806(lte) ? is it worth the upgrade for ATT users? tempted to pull trigger to get rid of my scratched ZU or wait for successor :rolleyes:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
Well since you already have one I'd wait until January when the supposed successor should be released. If nothings announced then then just buy a new one. I'm getting this and then a z4 once it releases (unless something goes horribly wrong and Sony makes it terrible but I'm guessing I'll love it). Anyways. This went on sale even more and I really needed a replacement so once z4 releases I can keep this as a tablet and backup. If a z4 ultra releases I'd just sell this and get that but considering the specs that are supposed to be in it the ultra will probably be very pricey. That's why I may go with the z4 since it's rumored to be 5.5 which is pretty decent size. Hopefully they can skim it down like LGS g3 but it seems like Sony doesn't find that important
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] lopri:
Do you guys think the ADH (Accidental Damage Coverage) for $60 is worth the money? Does Sony refuse if there is a user "trip" on security? (e.g. root)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
I think it's worth it since you pretty much get new phone but not sure if root affects it. It's for physical damage so I don't think that would matter but not sure
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Mangoniter:
I'm thinking about getting a Z Ultra as well because I really need an upgrade from my Samsung Galaxy S Plus which is getting pretty old.

Is it possible to use the Z Ultra with one hand or do you need both?

And how long does it take to get used to such a huge device in your front pocket?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abdel12345:
You'll need two hands most of the time and it should be airtight in your front pocket depending on your pants. Go on YouTube and search xparia z ultra pocket test
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Mangoniter:
Thanks for the tip. I've checked out a few videos and ordered my Xperia Z Ultra five minutes ago.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] macgod79:
took the plunge

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I ordered mine last night from bh photo. Cant wait to receive mine but it will be Wednesday before I can test drive her. I think Sony has the most premium brand of androids. Everywhere you go you see samsungs so I wanted to stand out and this fit the bill perfect. Anything special app i should install first to show off the devices power?;) Forgot to mention in coming from a iPhone 5s. This screen is a little bigger lol
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] E90 Commie:
I would recommend Floating Apps since it is a great showcase for windowed apps on the big screen.

Later, you can consider putting Xposed Framework on and continue with multiwindow sidebar and so on.