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[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] sibica:
Hi. Today I found strange problem with my Philips 7373/12. TV works fine for 3 months. First problem was few day ago when I can't run any android app because of screen flickering. After factory reset android apps works fine, without problem. But then I found new problem with dvb-t channels. When I scan only free channels, tv find all free channels in my area, but I can't change any channel, and it is possible to watch only channel in nr.1. When I scan both free&pay tv channels, I can watch more channels, but they are tottaly messed. For example, nr.1 channel has icon of nr.10 channel, nr.5 channel has icon of nr.8 channel, etc.Factory reset doesnt help with this problem. My tv is still in guarantee period, but if I can solved problem without service it would be fine.

Thanks in advance!
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Preeferbal:
It gets really hard to do anything with these Android TV's
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] dagrim1:
Really? Anything?

I can watch tv without issues, youtube, netflix, all installing fine... kodi/xbmc... installed. Sideload apps (granted, not always working smooth).

You can't root it but can't say I miss anything (apart from a tv android app of my tv service provider, but that's because they suck)
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] tryfos:
[MENTION=8673431]Toengel[/MENTION] I saw a video of yours in Youtube about Philips 2019 having Youtube HDR app out of the box.

Do you perhaps know if Youtube HDR is going to be supported also in 2018 7xx3? They already support VP9 Profile 2 playback and as far I've researched they are ready from a hardware point. Is this a Philips update or a Google update? I sideloaded Youtube app through Apptoide and HDR plays. But the app cannot be controlled correctly by the remote.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] tryfos:
[MENTION=8673431]Toengel[/MENTION] I saw a video of yours in Youtube about Philips 2019 having Youtube HDR app out of the box.

Do you perhaps know if Youtube HDR is going to be supported also in 2018 7xx3? They already support VP9 Profile 2 playback and as far I've researched they are ready from a hardware point. Is this a Philips update or a Google update? I sideloaded Youtube app through Apptoide and HDR plays. But the app cannot be controlled correctly by the remote.

(Sorry for the double post, but I can't find out how a post is deleted).
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

it's up to Google to enable HDR on 2017 and 2018 platform...

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] tryfos:
I see. So 99% no YT HDR for these sets. It's a pity, since they can fully support it :(
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] cpasoft:
You can use SmartYourtubeTv. It supports HDR and also without adds. Have a look to it.

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[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] tryfos:
Thanks, I tried it,good app. It shows HDR on the TV but I immediately noticed that HDR looks way worse than SDR in all resolutions (dull colors,grey blacks).

Unfortunately this app supports only rec709 and no bt2020 chroma,which is necessary for proper HDR. Read here for similar problems with Sony Android

https://community.sony.co.uk/t5/android-tv/youtube-hdr-finally/td-p/2251169/page/28

Unfortunately,unlike the Sony TVs,we don't even have an option to manually change the chroma. I'm sure [MENTION=8673431]Toengel[/MENTION] knows more about this. So the image in HDR is terrible.

So I think we're probably never going to see proper HDR YT on the 7303,given that Google will hardly bother or/and Philips is not going to enable it with a fw update.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] cpasoft:
We will have hdr on YT and also HDR10+ in the upcoming android 9. I guess we'll have it on the first quarter of the 2020.

You can also sell your TV and buy a brand new 04 series for solving this quickly...

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[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] bothered:
It was fun while it lasted but the 7303 was just too temperamental - wifi actually didnt work for ages (the first tv was sent back as the back leds were faulty on opening so they sent replacement) so not so smart if not connected and why should i pay more for wired connection when it should have been part of my sale. The wifi was simply a big joke all round and no i shouldnt have to reboot my tv everytime i need wifi. I guess the android/apps combo was good and yeah sat/dvb tuner as well as 4 hdmi kept me in there longer than i would have wanted but yeah pointless when your not actually connected, Finally lost patience and got it returned shame as it had potential, just unfulfilled and i'd imagine it'd stay that way. Oh well the bells and whistles were nice.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] joeriv:
Anyone know if you could use a usb to ethernet adapter or ac wifi and connect it to you tv?

Currently i'm using kodi on my philips 803 and it's connected with an ethernet cable yet it's almost impossible to view a 4k movie without buffering and it's driving me crazy.

The tv is connected to my home network and so is my nas.

Maybe i can get some answers here? Thanks in advance.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Mark0x:
No, many people tested usb gigabit ethernet adaptaters (I tried 3 different) but none works on this tv.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] dagrim1:
Is there a way to show signal strength on the andoidtv 9 philips tvs? Can't find it anywhere but would be nice to be able to check (was there in my previous sony tv, android 8 though}
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] tryfos:
I have the 7303 set (Android 8) and when something with HDR plays in Netflix app I have the exact same problem as here:

https://community.sony.co.uk/t5/android-tv/awful-hdr-quality-in-netflix/td-p/2306850

Something like a subtle wall of white/grey fog covers the entire screen, colors are washed out, blacks appear grey and the Netflix logo appears closer to orange than red. Lowering brightness to 48-49 seems to mitigate the grey blacks but colors are definitely off. Tried almost every HDR setting with no results. I'm almost positive that it has something to do with REC2020 not being properly displayed or switched to from REC709, but there are no settings in relation to that. Picture in SDR is perfect.

Unfortunately I cannot test HDR with other apps, since Youtube HDR is not supported in this set and I don't own any other streaming subscription.

Any suggestions?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

press + button on RC, then channel status (or similar)...

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] freshmike:
Does anyone knows if Philips is going up update Oreo to Pie for 2018 models? Any timeline?

Update:

Dear customer,

Unfortunately at this moment we do not have any information in regards to update of Android version on 2018 range.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] tryfos:
Anyone? I've also noted that "contrast mode" setting does NOT work in HDR mode, the image is not changed whatever is chosen and the setting is not saved properly. Finally, no HDR ISF mode and no Gamma setting in any HDR mode. Is this correct?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] tengambg:
Sound issue 55oled803/12

Hello guys,

Recently I brought 55oled803/12 and after a couple of weeks of usage without an issue one very annoying problem started to pop up.

Currently at random but often intervals the sound stops for half a second. This issue is present with both internal speakers and external sound bar (Samsung HW-K450) connected via optical cable.

* I tried to change the optical cable for the soundbar (before realizing the issue is reproducing with the internal speakers as well)

* I tried factory reset, changing around all sound settings, removing all unnecessary apps (including pre-loaded)

* The issue is present with external inputs (Pi4 Kodi, PC) and internal apps (Netflix mostly). It seems that with DTS and DolbyDigital sound the problem is easier to reproduce and more often.

* I contacted Philips support and they've sent me one update to install via USB but the update didn't even manage to start.

I was hoping for you guys to give me some advice before returning the TV for service repairs.

Thank you!
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

uninstall the latest Netflix update...

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] tengambg:
Thank you!

I'll try that but like I said the issue is with external sources as well, not only Netflix app.

EDIT: Issue is not related. I tried uninstalling the updates, problem is still present.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] miljenko:
Factory defaults maybe and if there is format storage option? It seems like something is stressing processor and sound breaks from time to time. Or processor overheating and throttling reduce the speed. I have 7303 for a year and a half, no issues with sound
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] tengambg:
I tried factory defaults but without any luck. Actually I was thinking the same thing regarding the processor stress. The weird thing is that there is no video issues whatsoever. Are there any android apps that can log CPU activity and what processes are taking up CPU time that can be installed on Android TV? (without sudo access)
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] JBBoy007:
Hy,

Same thing here with a 55PUS7503, try all thins, include factory default and do the samething, i activate multichanel with bypass and do the same thing, in HDMI and optical, only if i chose PCM stereo em def all the áudio cuts stop, kodi,netflix,hbo all that have dolby,dts, to the áudio cuts. I dont know what to do, i have the last firmware. Probably e will contact the support and see what they say.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] zanziok:
Any news on Android 9 Pie update for Philips 2018 line up
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

no. But in Januar 2019 Philips said (via PR), that Pie will be rolled out in 2019... so 6 weeks ^^

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] tryfos:
Don't count on Philips support, essentially there is none.

I have the same problem, a temporary fix I found is to force stop the relevant app through Android settings and reopen it. It eliminates the problem for a while, until it comes backs in a later session.

Another problem with sound is with Plex app, it has a terrible audio-video desync with HEVC and dts .mkv files. For this I have found no solution.

Finally regarding HDR (Netflix app) I mentioned in an earlier post that it makes blacks grey and gamma is elevated. In HDR mode there is no ISF mode, no gamma setting available (greyed out) and the "Contrast mode" (microdimming) setting does not work.

In general this is a great set, but with software problems that are not handled by Philips.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] freshmike:
Support

Dear customer,

Unfortunately at this moment we do not have any information in regards to update of Android version on 2018 range.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] DallasCZ:
hello, i bought Philips 55pus7803 and I wonder if there is some shortcuts (on remote controller) to see recent apps like on android phones? is there some hiddwn service menu and how to access it? And the most needed is there a rc button combo to restart the TV? I use an app, that sometimes freeze the whole tv and i have to unplug it from power. Thank you
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Bananaz:
Install Sideload Launcher and access all apps installed on Tv.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
Sideload and install External Keyboard Helper, it will give you all the features you need
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] alain57:
Hi all,

does anyone have an ethernet to USB or ethernet to PCMCIA that worked on their 803 oled ?

it is really a shame (and i'm really nice not saying the bad words i have in mind) to sell a 2000$ tv with a connection as bad as the one included.

Really ingeneers at philips are really strange.. why save 1 cent and make people unhappy ?!?

Or was this the plan to say : hey look, we put out a new tv, same as 2018 but with gigabit ethernet .... well as 2019 model has the same issue ... maybe they will discover gigabit in 2020 or 2021 :/
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] DallasCZ:
Sorry I don´t get it. Why do you need ethernet to USB or ethernet to PCMCIA?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] zanziok:
Is there any TV with two CI+ module slots.

I want to use both Cable and Satellite TV - 2 subscriptions directly in the TV
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] alain57:
because the integrated one is .... simply unacceptable in a high end tv

did nobody try to stream 4K films per ethernet on this tv ?!? (i'm not speaking of high compressed youtube/netflix) but of a nice file available on your NAS ...

you will get a LOT of buffering because 4K films have peaks of bitrate that goes higher than 100Mbs

and tmy tv is even worse, if i run a network test on netflix the best score goes up to 35Mbs : /

I really don't get it... we are in 2019, why the hell do people still use 10/100Mbs ethernet when gigabit is the standard since at least 10 years....

Even the integrated WiFi sucks..

I put a WiFi access point 10 cm from tv and it is still bad :/

Whereas my phone or my laptop that are 1-2m away are using way much speed...

Do philips engineer think : let put the worse part we found behind an amazing screen and nobody will notice ?!?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] DallasCZ:
Ok, now I get it. I tried some 4K videos downloaded from internet...they using H264 codecs and the bitrate is about 55mbps and no problem. even on wifi (streamed from my notebook using shared folder ).

Next time read the parameters before buying.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
Honestly a 10 euro gigabit adapter on a 2000€ TV should not be needed to be read.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MakaanPL:
GeForce Now

Hi Guys,

Can anyone test the GeForce Now application on Android TV? Of course a beta account is required. It can be downloaded from apkmirror.

On Philips 7300 series (9.0, 2019) the sound is heavily distorted during game streaming, regardless of the output (TV, headphones, Bluetooth). The graphics seems to be perfectly fine. Wired network is OK, GFN works on PC and Android phone really well.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] tengambg:
Hello guys,

The issue above seems to be resolved when the audio output is set to "Stereo (uncompressed)" in the TV settings but at the cost of missing DTS and DolbyDigital effects in the soundbar.

Any suggestions?

Just to remind that connecting the soundbar with the same optical cable to a PC and playing DTS movies does not reproduce the audio issue. So in terms the she issue should be in the TV itself and not in the cable and/or soundbar. Playing the same movie from the same PC but connected to the soundbar via the TV is reproducing the issue. (and TV audio out is set to passthrough )
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] alain57:
yeah sure but where is this written ?

Beside on forum where people complains this WAS never written somewhere !

Not on the package, not on the reseler page and not even on philips website

And all dumb online tester/reviewer didn't check this ?

Its not that this was hard to detect.... Just try to play any 4k video (even one recorded with a smartphone) and put it on a NAS and you can see this big no go.

so because i put my savings in a high end tv I should waste my money in endless 10$ devices hoping that I will ever find one compatible with my tv ? Interesting concept... really

Of course I googled a bit and found already 3 adapters that DON'T work.

So

**** ethernet

**** wifi

and **** compatibility with other devices :/

but great screen

I'm really wondering if all buyers don't use advanced feature

or if they use a USB disk (I did this in begining of 2000s )

or if they simply gave up and put a shield to have something working (they could have save some money and take another OLED tv without android TV )

Worse part : philips continue to bring out new tv with the same issue :/ It seems they don't care selling 4K tv not able to stream high quality 4k video :/

I could understand this on a low end device, but on their top devices ?!?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] DallasCZ:
I understand your frustration. Have you contacted Philips regarding this?

For me, and maybe the majority of users, is it enough (the 100 megabit ethernet). Who on the world records a 4k video with bitrate above 60 mbits? I found only a handfull of 4k movies with bitrate above 80 mbits (mostly demo movies).

Wifi works well and also my soundbar and other devices connected (as far as I can tell. I have pus7803 with Philips soundbar HTL3310, xbox one x, and my father has a 65oled803 with soundbar Samsung HW Q90R ).

I think better than getting angry for months since you buy the TV, is better to sell it and buy a OLED TV with gigabit ethernet and you are good to go.

about updates in terms of security. It is nonsense to think, that without security updates the TV will be hacked. If you install only known apps from google play and don´t open any attachments in email on TV, there os almost no chance to get into your TV without your interaction. And anyway, who buys a TV for 10 years? I switch it every 2-3 years.

EDIT:

I looked on the internet and have´t found any TV with gigabit ethernet, so it is not a faoult of Philips only!
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
I wrote that a 10 euro (the value in 2019 for a gigabit adapter) gigabit adapter should be included by default in a 2000€ tv. So the story "read the spec next time" is stupid and i agree with you that is an idiot mistake by Philip engineers.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] DallasCZ:
so show me any TV with gigabit ethernet. Its not only Philips fault. And who makes a 4k movies with bitrate above 60 Mbit?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] alain57:
oh i misunderstood you :(

sorry for my semi rude answer

I hope that you're not angry with me now

---------- Post added at 09:20 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:59 AM ----------

don't know.. i only bought one high end tv. it is a fail.

but your are right this is not only philips... I guess all company have uncompetant people making such big mistake

here some other poor guy with a sony : https://community.sony.co.uk/t5/android-tv/4k-smart-tv-with-100mbps-ethernet/td-p/2551496

bitrate is not constant.

there are peaks and bottoms

in the average the bitrate is bellow 60Mbs

but on complexe scenes it is it go up over 100Mbs

now why should you limit the quality if the screen is capable to render it ?

netflix is streaming 24fps for ex

but there are phones that can capture at 60fps or 90fps to do a slow motion effect

the blue ray standart already defined some discs with a bitrate of 128Mb

So actual 4K tv are NOT future designed... they are designed to be changed really fast (as they are already having a very outdated connection)

But what is bad, is that the LAN seems to be blocked far away from it max capacity...

when I did a netflix bandwith test

on Wifi i got about 80Mbs

on Ethernet avout 25Mbs so you see VERY limited :/ :eek::eek::eek:

I was also wondering why downloading update for the tv took an hour with a gigabit FTTH connection .... well no wonder if the tv is blocked at 25Mbs or if the philips server has the same kind of joke ....

apple tv4k or shield have gigabit ethernet.

mibox S don't but there are a lot of other boxes with gigabit ethernet
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] DallasCZ:
i agree that it is just a standard TV.. just buy another with gigabit ethernet (if you find one) or use a tv box (then you did not need android tv). Problem solved and you will be happy again.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Damoedge:
Hi guys,

I'm in the market to buy a new tv so I just wanted to know which tv is the best for rooting? and is there such thing as a custom Rom for a tv? seeing that we have Android tv's is there much we can actually do with them in development?

Any help or links to info would be grateful...

Thanks all ?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] DallasCZ:
just buy regular tv and android tv box... better possibility to gain root. And if you screw something, you just buy another tv box.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] zanziok:
How can I disable the Philips Tips in the full EPG Guide, android oreo ?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] brigidino:
Hello, i like tu upgrade my 7100/R2, since the last update to Oreo he cannot detect the OTA update. I downloaded the latest release from the philips website and put it in USB pen drive.

I'm scared to loose the NVM data and loose the HDR featurre after it and i hot lost the procedure to fix it.

The question is : After the usb upgrade do i will loose some feature? Can i do that without annoying you later?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Damoedge:
I know yes and I already have that setup....it's just that if I'm buying a new tv I might as well buy one that I can play around with a little root wise...and if anything goes wrong I might be able to fix it myself...
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
As far as i know, unfortunately there is no way to get root access or at least noone with experience worked on it
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Damoedge:
So we can not get root on any smart Android tv? I thought in 2019 we could....
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] zanziok:
Android TV doesnt really have a big development community.

Other OS's from Samsung, LG, Roku have taken over the market
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Damoedge:
Thanks for your reply...

So which would be the biggest development community and the most support on here?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] DallasCZ:
android tv boxes (xiaomi for example), or nvidia shield tv (or new pro version).

No really android development for webOS, Tizen etc...
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

new firmwares availble:

TPM191E: https://toengel.net/philipsblog/201...r-tvs-mit-android-tv-9-pie-tpm191e-1-2-173-4/

QM163E: https://toengel.net/philipsblog/201...017er-tvs-mit-android-tv-8-oreo-qm163e-26-68/

QM161E: https://toengel.net/philipsblog/201...55pos901f-mit-android-tv-8-oreo-qm161e-26-68/

QM151E: https://toengel.net/philipsblog/201...-und-8901-mit-android-tv-8-oreo-qm151e-26-68/

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
TPM171 Too via OTA
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] deniz2694:
It's still Oreo-based ?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
8 wtf
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] zanziok:
New OTA update for 2018 model, 43PUS7303/12 today
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] uzi2:
Still 8 - September security update - I haven't seen a changelog
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] speedfirat:
NVM file

Hi Toengel,

Firstiful thanks for sharing information about us.Philips 2019 models 7xxx series TV NVM files should be update because of bad picture performance especially for HDR contents.You can see the differences my TV below pictures.SDR vivid colors more colorful than hdr vivid modes on my TV.Some of customers open ticket to philips and service came to with NVM files to loaded via USB and problem resolved.You can see before/after upgrade performance.Do you know how we can find this file?

Uncharted on my TV

SDR

HDR

Example pictures from my friend before /after NVM file Upgraded TV

Avengers Endgame 4K HDR

After NVM file upgraded on HDR performance

Before NVM file upgraded on HDR performance
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
Nvm
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] speedfirat:
I think problem is all 7xxx 2019 series

My TV is 55PUS7504 and my friend has got 55PUS7304 which is IPS panel but VA panel users also reported which has problem 58" and 50".
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

[MENTION=557276]speedfirat[/MENTION]

What TV model do you have exactly?

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] speedfirat:
I have 55PUS7504 but i already wrote this problem not related VA /IPS panel or model number.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

I added all changelogs to my firmware update blog posts (QM151, QM161, QM163 and TPM171)

Toengel@Alex