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[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Mark0x:
USB2.0 speed is 480Mbps so even if wifi AC card is connected with USB it should still be better than 100Mbps.

I did some benchmarkings using different apps and it is better on my POS9002 that wired ethernet 100Mbps (around 160Mbps with the AC router at 2meters) but I agree its not the bitrate we can expect from a real wifi AC interface...
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
HI,

Firmware 26.17 für QM151E: https://toengel.net/philipsblog/201...-und-8901-mit-android-tv-8-oreo-qm151e-26-17/

Firmware 26.17 for QM161E: https://toengel.net/philipsblog/201...55pos901f-mit-android-tv-8-oreo-qm161e-26-17/

Firmware 26.17 for QM163E: https://toengel.net/philipsblog/201...017er-tvs-mit-android-tv-8-oreo-qm163e-26-17/

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] M4rf0:
Yes 480Mbps in perfect conditions, and then divide it by 2, it has to receive signal and send it. Finally you will get something around your result. I have 55PUS7101 and Blu-ray rip works better on Ethernet connection than on WiFi. Kodi works quite well with 4k videos.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] KiiRan91:
Hey bro sorry for the question, I know you are not really from philips support lol but do you know approximately when the oreo update will come on 2018 TVs like 7303 please ?

We're waiting since too many time.

Thanks bro
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

still Q1/2019.... but it think: soon (really)...

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
I tested some 4k files of my new drone. 1GB~ per minute, 103mbits/sec quality. They play clunky with internal player but smoothly with mx player pro and hw+ decoding.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] dare_vv:
Are these versions any close to the final one, are they soon to be expected via OTA or is this still "beta"?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
HI,

they are final and available OTA...

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Grzegorz_Pietrakowski:
Is there a version 26.17 somewhere to download? My TV does not find a new version of the software by OTA

Wysłane z mojego LG-H870 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

not officially... for Hardware-Upgrade-Kits there won't be any Oreo update via OTA... you always need to install via USB...

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ChimeyJimmey:
Here's how to do it on "Hardware-Upgrade-Kits":

1. Edit the model via NVM and change it to a "real" 2016 model (dial "062596+OK" on the RC). Don't forget to "STORE" it in the NVM menu! :silly:

2. Reboot the TV set. Plug it off the power grid for a minute or two.

3. Check for update the "normal" way. Patience and obedience are mandatory. :D

4. Eventually, proceed with the update.

5. Revert the model back via NVM editor and again do Point 2, if you have any alignment issues at all.

;)

BTW,

on PUS7600/R3 with 26.17 (HW upgrade kit),

WiFi "ac" network occasionally "goes out the window" again, but this time - no need to completely reboot the TV set to get it back, just reconnect to the WiFi net...
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Grzegorz_Pietrakowski:
how to do these steps exactly:

1. Edit the model via NVM and change it to a "real" 2016 model (dial "062596+OK" on the RC). Don't forget to "STORE" it in the NVM menu! :silly:

5. Revert the model back via NVM editor and again do Point 2, if you have any alignment issues at all.

Wysłane z mojego LG-H870 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ChimeyJimmey:
1. Dial "062596+OK" on the RC.

2. Find the "NVM editor" in the menu. Move right.

3. Select "Type number". Move right.

4. Note the original value!

5. Depending on your current model and platform, change the value to some "genuine” 2016 model/platform, e.g. 49PUS6501/12 in my case (QM163E platform).

6. Triple verify and confirm with ”OK” button.

7. Move left and find ”Store" in the main menu.

8. Click it, confirm with "OK", eventually.

9. Exit with "Back" button on the RC.

10. Plug off the TV set out of the power grid and wait minute or two.

11. Plug the TV set again and power it on.

12. Verify the changed "Type number” value in the NVM, to be sure.

13. Continue with "check & update" steps.

Reverting the original type number is done the same way.

Keep the faith and good luck!
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] dare_vv:
Is OTA also available for my 2015 PUS7102 R2 model or I have to upgrade manually?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

no - not for Upgrade-Kits /Rx... you always need to install the update manually...

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] premuss:
Android 5.0 introduced multi user environment and the problem with it is, that secondary user that we can use in Philips TV with lollipop doesn't have root privilege. This is why we can't do anything.

And this won't change unless some1 will provide exploit to root the system.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] upthe¡rons:
No sorry, I use kodi, as I said, and I don't waste any time to install in other way...
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] pac007:
Can you please tell me how instal popcorn time with kodi, thanks.

If it is not problem step by step :good:

Thanks for your time
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] nixonik:
Hello everyone.

I have a philips 40pft5500. What I want to do is connect a harddisk to the TV, and move files from PC to disk connected to the TV using the wireless. It's possible? I tried to connect the disk formatted in NTFS to my router (vodafone revolution), but the router goes crazy.

If there is a way to install apk on this model, let us know! :)

Thanks
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] upthe¡rons:
It's easy.

Install kodi from play store

Then click in videos-add ons- add more

Choose popcornflix

Depends of the country, I recommended you from this list to add, pelisalacarta, sportsdevil and livesstreamspro (you'll need to add channels list to this add on)
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] thekeiron:
I installed Kodi, and for the most part it works really well (I recommend setting up the fusion installer from TvAddons and their configutation) the only snag is that 3D doesnt work (all the 3D settings on the TV settings are greyed out, only 2D is available), but luckily I bought an Amazon Fire Stick TV on prime day so I set up Kodi on that and can watch 3D films with that (and install other apks) but it's a shame as that isn't 4K, only 1080p. Either way it's a cheap alternative to the built in Android TV for installing other stuff.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] mc4ren:
Do any of you experience big audio delay (like 300-500 ms) in some Android apps? I use BSPlayer and no matter I choose LAN or local playback, I always get this disturbing audio delay. I've tried MX Player, Dice Player, ViMu player... no one seems to work. Looks like it's Android itself which is having the issue. Has anyone solved it?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] runmo:
Hello, I managed to open the security screen with the mentioned command in this thread on my new philips 40pUK6400/12 4k tv with android 5.1 but unknown sources can't be selected (text greyed out), is there another way to be able to undo this to be able to install external apk

Thank you
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] golfeitor:
Installing all apps on Android TV

Acabo de encontrar una manera de fácil de instalar cualquier aplicación en Android TV sin necesidad de habilitar "Orígenes Desconocidos", usando cualquier smartphone o tablet Android con la última versión de la aplicación "ES File Explorer" y estando en la misma red:

1.- La app que queráis instalar en la TV primero debéis tenerla instalada en el tablet o smartphone Android.

2.- ES File Explorer -> Librería -> APP y seleccionáis la app a instalar en la TV.

3.- Más -> Install to TV, seleccionáis la TV y comenzará el proceso de instalación. En pocos segundos la tendréis instalada.

4.- Desde la TV podréis tener fácil acceso a todas las apps instalando el Sideload Launcher desde Google Play Store.

Desgraciadamente muchas apps no son utilizables por no ser compatibles con el dispositivo básicamente por no ser de pantalla táctil y por alguna otra cuestión. Para esto seguiremos necesitando ayuda de la comunidad para configurar la TV como si fuera un tablet para "engañar" a las apps no compatibles con Android TV. Instalé, por ejemplo, Yomvi pero no funciona correctamente.

Espero que os ayude a tener vuestras apps favoritas disponibles en vuestra TV Philips con Android TV.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] upthe¡rons:
Y el flash funciona instalándolo de este modo?

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Could you install flash in this way?

---------- Post added at 01:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:51 PM ----------

Pero, esto que dices tu, lo hacía yo directamente seleccionando una aplicación desde la play store en el PC, y al instalar, seleccionando como dispositivo la TV, pero efectivamente así las apps no van bien (la mayoría)

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You can do the same if you install apps from PC play store, and choose TV as dispositive, but lot of them don't works properly.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] mc4ren:
Here's a translation:

I've just found an easy way of installing any app in Android TV without having to enable "Unknown Sources", by using any Android smartphone or tablet with the latest version of "ES File Explorer" and being in the same network:

1.- The app that will be installed on TV must be already installed in the Android tablet or smartphone.

2.- ES File Explorer -> Library -> APP and select the app you'd like to install on TV.

3.- More -> Install to TV; choose the TV and the installation process will begin. In a few seconds it will be installed.

4.- From TV you can have a quick access to all the apps by installing Sideload Launcher from Google Play Store.

Unfortunately many apps are not available because they are not compatible with the device, mainly for lacking touchscreen and some other question. In order to overcome that we still need the community's help to configure the TV as a tablet, to "cheat" apps which are not compatible with Android TV. I installed Yomvi, for example, but it's not fully operational".

All credit goes to golfeitor
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] premuss:
this doesn't help - this is just google play loaded, which can also be on computer and tv can be chosen. The problem with "unknown sources" remains.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] argentumlv:
How to add Android TV to ES Explorer?

It always says "Please make sure that Android TV has enabled the remote debug in settings".

I have USB debug enabled.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] pac007:
I tried kodi is not workin/stabile, any news about how to enable "Unknown Sources" on Philips 55pfs8209 ?

Thanks:good:
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] upthe¡rons:
Kodi is not working?

In Phillips android TV 40" works perfect
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] marcusraptus:
Hi that isn't working as the option stays greyed out do you have another suggestion pls?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ovso:
On my 49PUS7150/12 Kodi 15.2 Isengard is also working very well. However the wireless network drops out randomly. Maximum length of watching the 1080p stream I achieved was 6 hours. Usually network goes down after 1 hour, sometimes after 15 minutes, sometimes half a day no problem. . .When the network drops out many network parameters shows "Busy" status. Turning off/on wireless adapter in TV settings does not help as there are no networks found after re-enabling. The only way to reset this is to turn off/on power to the TV. I had to make last week a switch on the main power cable so I can easily switch off the power without pulling the plug which is not easily accessible :) When I find solution to this I will post it, but so far no luck...
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] yenseizenit:
Kodi 15.2 now shows at Google Play Store that it's not compatible with Philips 55PUS7909. I've tried SPMC and it installs OK but when it arrives at the main menu, stops the application and goes back to the TV menu.

I've updated the TV with the latest software available and nothing gets better :(
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ovso:
Same problem on 49PUS7150, Kodi will not install anymore after upgrading to latest firmware and resetting to the factory settings :( .See below pictures... If you are still able to use Kodi on your previous version, do not reset your TV to factory settings as this will delete all installed apps including Kodi...

[IMG="Kodi won't load from play store"]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CSbGDJNczUo/VivMTaUSt7I/AAAAAAAAgBg/JqLz9-V0SUE/s800-Ic42/kodi%252520not%252520installing%252520anymore%2525202.png[/IMG][IMG="Kodi won't load from play store"]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-a1QWFMcW5Ys/VivMTf_c-mI/AAAAAAAAgBg/JnDCcAR9nNs/s720-Ic42/kodi%252520not%252520installing%252520anymore.png[/IMG]
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] upthe¡rons:
I think your tvs are not android TV..., they are smart tvs, but with Phillips launcher... Not AOSP, aren't they?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

maybe interessting for UK /05 owners (2017 TVs): https://toengel.net/philipsblog/201...e-to-tpm171e-starting-with-android-tv-8-oreo/

Hello Philips guys... this blog post does also contain a "Dear Philips" section... you are addressed directly ;)

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
Hi Alex,

Please post a Dear Philips post for the 3D issues on the upgraded TV's. Maybe somebody reads.

Can you please contact them and ask them for a fix?

I can't use PS3 and Xbox360 3D games on my TV as 3D doesn't work properly on 1080p sources on upgraded TV's, as you already know.

This should be easy to fix by them if they want.

Please help us. Maybe they will hear you and do something for us.

Or at least please let us know how can we report bugs to TP Vision.

There should be a communication channel for this BUG reports.

Thank you my friend for all your help.

Kind regards,

Vlad
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] brigidino:
Just to tell you, actuallu you can controll on and off of the TV using the google home. Other features are broken (in my case). Do you have any feedback?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] bothered:
Model 7303 (wifi does not stay on and becomes disabled - only a full power switch/reboot brings it back). Is my item faulty? I am going to return the TV if this is the case. Bought new.

This page acknowledges the problem but wishes to take none of the responsibility

https://philips-tvconsumercare.kxondemand.com/Portal/en/Faq/All/3879
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ChimeyJimmey:
On Oreo 8.x - it's like that, already wrote about that. :p
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

on 2017/2018 Philips TVs... Amazon has enabled HDR remotely for these TVs: https://toengel.net/philipsblog/201...-video-app-jetzt-mit-hdr-auf-2017-2018er-tvs/

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] bothered:
OK so you are saying on Oreo the wifi problem remains? - If this is the case. Is anyone actually looking at fixing this - and by anyone I mean are Philips? If not I will be returning my TV immediately once Oreo is found to have failed to fix this or at the end of March, whichever is sooner
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] UKoort:
Hi guys,

First time here, read most of the posts.

I have 55PUS7150/12 in service [i got 1 year warranty left], waiting for me to decide if i want refurbished old motherboard or new R2.

I read that to get 3d source has to be 4k. Xbox one S is too weak for this. I have 3d files that are 20 gb or more.

And you always talk about SBS. What about OU? Do these files work?

Is there any way that 3d works from HDD or NAS ? Otherwise i have to buy Nvidia Shield or something.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
Hi,

You need to have 4K signal for 3D to work on R2 platform. OU has the same issue on 1080p signal, you only see the top half on R2.

I play 3D SBS movies on Kodi on Xbox One S which is set to output 4K resolution via HDMI. 3D works in 4K resolution, with TV menu messed up (you only see one half of the menu with one eye, and the other half with the other eye). It is clear that the R2 platform was not made for 3D content.

If you want to have 3D fully working, 4K and 1080p, then you will need to keep the old board.

The bad side with the old board is the big input lag for games. I couldn't live with the huge input lag.

If you don't play any games, and you only watch movies, and especially 3D ones, then you will need to keep the old board just to maintain full compatibility with 3D content.

Cheers,

Vlad
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
Has anyone tested Ethernet speed on pos 9002? Mine is under 5MB/sec
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] UKoort:
Thank you for quick answer. I'm still curious what happens when you play the 3d file from hdd or from network?

I'm currently not playing with the TV but I tried and it was awful. Input lag was really high.

I bought the TV especially for 3d. I got it for 450€ and still 1 year warranty left.

I'm thinking about taking the old board but then I'll keep having crashes and so on.

Do I even have HDR then?

I used it only for a few days before sending it for repairs so I haven't seen all the nice errors and problems.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
If you play 3D file from HDD or network you will only see the left half for SBS or top half for OU, which is stretched on the whole screen and have the 2D to 3D effect on top. Basically you see only 2D image, with 2D to 3D on top.

This is because the internal player works at 1080p resolution for 1080p movies. If you load a 4K movie with internal player, the 3D works, but there are no 4K 3D movies. Only 1080p.

Yes, the input lag is really high, you can't play anything on the old board. Also you have the crashes. You will need to put a switch on the power cord :) This is why I went with the upgrade. But I really miss the 3D for 1080p. I had games on PS3 and Xbox360 that where wonderful in 3D. But I had the choice, input lag and 3D, or no input lag and no 3D. I went with the second option.

I had "HDR" decoding in the past, on previous firmware, but now after the last firmware it doesn't matter what NVM.BIN or NVM.EED file I have loaded, the HDR is no longer working. But, HDR is not something that would worth your money, not with this screen. Basically, there is no difference in SDR or HDR on this TV.

But, if you bought this TV for 3D with only 450€, then I would keep the old board. As you will have 3D fully working. Is really worth it to keep the 3D functionality for only 450 EURO :) Great deal.

Cheers,

Vlad
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] UKoort:
Well, there's always hope that they fix the 3d for R2 as it is probably software problem. But they will never fix the problems associated with the old board.

Decisions, decisions :)

Actually I had problems playing many files from network but they worked from hdd.

So I feel if I keep the TV I will need to get some external player.

What is the max file size that your Xbox + Kodi can play?

Thanks,

Urmas
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
There is no hope :) I am sure that there is ZERO chance of having a working 3D on my TV. I already reported this issues via service, support manager, support forum, etc. For nothing. This was 3 or 4 firmware versions ago.

They have put the 2D to 3D on top of a 2D image, especially to deceive the customers that they have a working 3D after hardware upgrade, for the customers not to request their money back. They didn't thought that the customers will see that there is no real 3D depth :)

So after they received complaints that the 3D isn't really working, they have decided to take out the 2D to 3D option from the TV menu :)))))) so you can't directly compare their "3D" image with a simple 2D image with 2D to 3D on top :))))) they are really sneaky, evil company. They for sure have done this on purpose. They should be sued.

So I don't think they will ever fix this TV.

My advice for you is to keep the 3D working. As the Passive 3D on a 4K screen has much more value than any simple 4K TV. Keep this TV only for 3D. Especially that you have bought it for only 450 EUR. Just keep the old board.

PS: "So I feel if I keep the TV I will need to get some external player. "

Just get an external player for your old board. You can get a Xiaomi Mi Box S and you can play any 4K file you want.

On Xbox One S with Kodi I can play 4K mkv just fine. But I use it to play 3D mkv files. I could also use the Mi Box S for far less money, but I already had the Xbox One S, so I used it instead.

But if you don't have any, I would keep the old board and I would buy a Xiaomi Mi Box S for 4K content, with YouTube at 4K 60 FPS (which my R2 can't do :) )

I can only play YouTube at 30 FPS on my R2. And this with stutter. I would be much better off with a dedicated media box. Xiaomi Mi Box S is best for 4K content, value for money.

The only downside you will have is the input lag. But as long as you can use another TV for gaming, then you will be all set. I didn't had this option, so I went with the R2 upgrade for gaming with low input lag.

Again, if you don't play games on it, I highly recommend you to keep the old board and buy a Xiaomi Mi Box S for 4K content on YouTube and Kodi, and you will be much better off. The 4K content will play with no stutter, and will be smooth at 60 FPS. Also you will have Android TV on the Mi Box with remote and mic :) so you can use the Google Voice Assistant as it was meant to be used.

Good luck.

Cheers,

Vlad
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] UKoort:
Thanks Vlad,

I hope I'll have luck finding LG 55UH850 or better. Then I'll just sell philips.

Somebody with knowledge should just threaten philips with class action lawsuit.

Maybe this would make them do the right thing.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
You are most welcome.

An LG 55UH850 would have been a much better choice, but it is really hard to find :) I didn't found it anywhere, especially at a low price. So I bought this 55PUS7150 from Philips. Yaaaaaay!

I think the best solution would have been a 4K OLED screen from LG with Passive 3D :) If you are not scared of burn-in, of course.

4K OLED with Passive 3D is the best 3D image that you can ever get. But again, it is REALLY EXPENSIVE :)

So, for 450 EURO your 4K TV is by far a best buy.

Just choose a refurbished old board for your TV and buy a Mi Box S for 4K YouTube and Kodi content and you will be all set :)

And for gaming, you can use any low end 4K TV from Samsung. Samsung has the lowest input lag.

LG also has low input lag, but not as low as Samsung. Also, Samsung has VA screens. Better contrast. :)

Good luck my friend with your decisions.

Cheers,

Vlad
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] UKoort:
So if I'm already using Mi box S, what are the benefits of having old board?

I already have xbox one S, I wasn't really successful with playing files from Xbox media player. I haven't tried Kodi yet. Must give it a try.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
The benefits are that you will have a working 3D TV with 1080p devices. Also, you can play 3D files directly with TV internal video player with no need for any external device. The optional Mi Box will be only for 4K content on YouTube and Kodi, 4K content that you can't play internally with the old board (or even with the new board R2, because with R2 you can't play 60 FPS YouTube videos, also you have stutter)

If you already have Xbox One S, then it is a must to have Kodi installed :) With Xbox One S you can play some 4K videos on YouTube, but not at 60 FPS.

Mi Box S can play all 4K 60 FPS videos perfectly.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] UKoort:
I installed Kodi on Xbox One and connected it with synology. Plays back everything perfectly.

Thank you so much for advice. So much better than Plex :)

Now my son will kick my ass if I connect Xbox with TV and he can't play any games on it :P

Very hard decisions :) even buying a car was easier.