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[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] BigBlue007:
The .013 version could be installed normally using the standard .upg file from Philips' support site and using the "Software Update" menu.

To be honest, I wasn't surprised that this worked. It is obvious that the larger .pkg file upgrades some components (probably stuff like bootloader) that are not included in the .upg files. As long as the TV has the older bootloader, it won't recognize an .upg file from the recent models, but after this components are updated using the .pkg file, the TV then also accepts .upg files the normal way.

As said, everything was still there after both updates, but I decided to factory-reset anway. Since I'm not really using any apps that aren't already preinstalled, there's not much effort for me to re-setup the TV. Basically it's only the picture and some other settings, so pretty much straight forward.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
For me, .006 first flash deleted all apps and set system language in English. But as you wrote, it was the full pkg file. I'll search the upg file on Philips site and test .013 asap. I don't know if the changelog deserve another flash compared to 006 version, but I'll try. For me is boring to install again all apps, I've many of them installed. Do you notice some improvements like me?

Thanks bb
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] BigBlue007:
First thing I noticed is that the audio delay that was always present when the TV outputs audio via Optical/HDMI in multichannel format is now gone. In the living room that wasn't a problem because none of my sources are connected to the TV. But in the bedroom I'm using a soundbar that is attached to the TV via optical, and in order to get rid of the delay I had to set the TV's audio output to stereo.

In the audio output format menu there's also a new entry "Dolby Digital Plus" now. Might be interesting for some folks.

In Picture -> Color there's a new submenu "Color Spectrum" where you can select between "normal" and "wide".

The most interesting thing for me would be the HDR10+ support via HDMI. So far I haven't a HDR10+ capable source. Just trying to find out if it would make sense to get myself a Samsung UBD-Mx500 UHD-BD player. These do support HDR10+, but so far I wasn't able to find out whether there's actually any content available on these players. I know that on current Samsung TVs the built-in Amazon Video app supports HDR10+ with some Amazon series. It's just not clear to me if this also applies to the Amazon Video app on those UHD BD players...
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
The is also new option for ambilight called football. About HDR I've notice that with prime video and grand tour series i didn't receive anymore the "hdr signal" notification. With ps4 is ok i receive the notification but i don't know if it's hdr 10 or not...

Btw I found only the .017 firmware on Philips homepage, could you link me the correct update file .013? Thanks
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

.017? Where?

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
On the 803 pageView attachment 4594824
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

thanks - I blogged it now... https://toengel.net/philipsblog/201...18er-tvs-mit-android-tv-7-tpm171e-105-1-2-17/

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] BigBlue007:
On the german support site, the FW download links for 803/903 have vanished. Must have happened within the last few hours because yesterday I was able to download .013 version from the very same place.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
Someone didn't like what we are doing [emoji28]
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
HI,

.017 is still available for 803/903: https://www.philips.de/c-p/55OLED80...d-android-tv-mit-3-seitigem-ambilight/support

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
Alex, in your experience if i update through tv menu with the upg file, I'll lost all apps installed?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

no - upg-Update is the same as OTA update... update is loaded from USB to TV and installed... (OTA: update is loaded from internet to TV and installed).

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
Can i go directly from 006 to 017?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

sure...

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
Installed v .017 and it's working, no issues found at the moment
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] BigBlue007:
Well, it's back now, but it had vanished earlier today :)

[MENTION=4956947]memeliv[/MENTION]: Could you please have a look at the color temperature setting and compare "Normal" and "Warm"? My feeling is that both is mixed up with the x03 firmware. For sure "Warm" looks colder than "Normal". It's not a big deal for me as I use custom white balance settings anyway. Just curious if I'm the only one who sees this.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] vadzim13:
Please, try the following approaches that worked for Sony Android TV.

How to install any google play app:

How to enable developer settings:

I'm considering buying Philips 48PUS7600 but would like to know customization options beforehand.

Please, someone confirm if above tricks work with Philips 2015 Android TVs.

Here is some questions I'm currently concerned with:

Can we hope for Lollipop 5.1 update soon?

Does Google provide common Android TV updates for all devices simultaneously?

What CPU come with Philips 2015 Android TVs?

What is the score in Antutu?

Does it allow to move apps to USB?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] premuss:
does any1 know where this ADB options - usb debugging should be? Since I can enable developer options but it is really really limited
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Matt17000:
Hi guys,

Philips just switch my 7909 for a 7150 with android lolipop... I succes s enabling dev option just by clicking build number in information, but no option to enable unknow sources.

I try with a terminal command "am start --user com.android.settings 0 -n / .SecuritySettings" and no option for unknow sources..

And i try with adb to and getting this :

adb shell settings put global install_non_market_apps 1

Error while accessing settings provider

java.lang.SecurityException: Permission denial: user is restricted from changing this setting.

at android.os.Parcel.readException(Parcel.java:1546)

at android.database.DatabaseUtils.readExceptionFromParcel(DatabaseUtils.java:185)

at android.database.DatabaseUtils.readExceptionFromParcel(DatabaseUtils.java:137)

at android.content.ContentProviderProxy.call(ContentProviderNative.java:645)

at com.android.commands.settings.SettingsCmd.putForUser(SettingsCmd.java:216)

at com.android.commands.settings.SettingsCmd.run(SettingsCmd.java:141)

at com.android.commands.settings.SettingsCmd.main(SettingsCmd.java:57)

at com.android.internal.os.RuntimeInit.nativeFinishInit(Native Method)

at com.android.internal.os.RuntimeInit.main(RuntimeInit.java:249)

Any idea ?

And another problem i have is this tv don't recognize a mouse....
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] vadzim13:
Did you try to reboot?

Here is illustated tutorial about enabling unknown sources and sideloading apps on Nexus Player:

talkandroid.com/guides/android-tv-guides/how-to-sideload-apps-apk-files-on-the-nexus-player-or-adt-1/
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] premuss:
nothing works for 49pus7150 - since the user is locked to limited profile and cannot change anything.

I guess we will have to wait for some exploit or something to root the system
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] kowal.008:
Hello everybody.

I have 49pus7909 and i dont understand post #163. Dear Matt17000 could You tell me how and why philips swich Your tv?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] esny23:
Are there any apps exclusive to the Phillips Android TVs? I know the TV can control Hue lights, I would love to install that APK on my Sony Android TV or Nexus Player.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Matt17000:
They switch my "old" 7909 be cause they try 2 time to replace the motherboard and the second time the tv won't turn on at all... So they give me a 7150 for replacement.

Another issues with the 7150, i can't connect a mouse, who's working fine on my 7909..
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] kowal.008:
thak You for reply, That is intrested think for future. Now after unblock android in tv i can install hbogo, googlecast and popcorn time and that is exacly what i need :D. About mouse i have a same problem but in 7909 with Apple magic mouse and apple keyboard, i dont know how to install it on tv.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Matt17000:
I think you need another usb mouse, or bluetooth/rfid with dongle. The built in bluetooth is limited for...... no idea, maybe wireless speaker.

I've a MX Revolution from Logitech who work fine on 7909 but not on 7150.............. F*ck it.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] nordicfastware:
55/65PUS7600 forum

Hi all,

I recently got myself a 55PUS7600 (new 2015 LP Android TV). There is no device specific forum, nor thread for this TV. There is only this thread that I found through search, and it regroups questions about all versions and devices of Android Philips TVs.

The Android TV forum and threads are of little to no use to TV owners that have device specific questions (Root, sideloading, compatibility, tweaks and hacks).

So my question is:

What would it take for a device specific thread to open for various Android TVs (Especially the 2015 Sony and Philips LP) ?

Is it that TVs are not the business of XDA ? or there is no Dev interest in those devices ? or there is simply not enough users to justify such device forum creation ?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] reisjogos:
Hi

I need some support with OSCAM in my tv Philips 49PUS7909 / 12 (Android 4.2).

OSTool is already installed in the TV and its running but I got an error:

· 2015/09/16 18:27:12 0 s init for all local cards done

· 2015/09/16 18:27:12 0 s anti cascading disabled

· 2015/09/16 18:27:12 14FDD0 c plain dvbapi-client granted (anonymous, au=off)

· 2015/09/16 18:27:12 14FDD0 c ERROR: Could not detect DVBAPI version.

Could you please advise?

Thanks
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] DJ82:
For 48PUS7600 I can not install OSTool. Unknown sources is locked ... How to bypass the lock?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] reisjogos:
1) Download terminal emulator from playstore

2) Open terminal emulator and paste this without quota "am start --user 0 -n com.android.settings/.SecuritySettings"

3) Enable unknow sources
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] cmies:
Tried and wont work for Philips 2015 models, witch use Android TV.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] premuss:
I think the problematic ones are TV's with Android 5.x on it, since it supports multi user and the user used for the TV is secondary user which is limited
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] cmies:
Okay, so the problem could be solved by finding the way to unlock the unknown sources lock from secondary user group or in some general form for all users. Or try to upgrade the second user group to higher level. Anyway sounds a bit like root is needed. :eek:
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Cmac82:
Philips Android TV 2015

It seems that philips have an administer profile on the new Android TV's. Im sure there has to be a service menu or a keystroke combination that will allow you to enter the Administrator mode
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] brownfox:
On my Sony androidTV i can go to setup-about and then press several time's on the build version to get developer privileges.

After that i go to setup-personal (last row)- security- and turn on (unknown sources).

I hope it works the same on the philips.

Now the second problem, i can install OStool, but i cannot start it within OStool :(
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] upthe¡rons:
Yes, it's true.

Works on Philips too [emoji1] [emoji1]

Thanks

---------- Post added at 04:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:26 PM ----------

The problem is that in this mode i can't find the way to give access to install apps out playstore neither

---------- Post added at 04:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:33 PM ----------

****! i can't find the way to install Flash [emoji16] [emoji16]
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] webwude:
It is mixed up, even with 017.

Gesendet von meinem H8324 mit Tapatalk
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
What we've done means that 803 and pos9002 have exactly the same hardware?

---------- Post added at 04:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:11 PM ----------

Yes, in my opinion cold is normal, warm is cold and cold is warm
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] BigBlue007:
Yes, that's what I think too. Thanks!

Not really. Obviously there are differences because with the new FW the old platform (not only 9002 but also 873 and 973) don't show certain menu items (like that new "reality blabla" thing in the contrast menu). What it does mean is that the new FW is designed to work on both the old and new platform, and maybe Philips will bring the new FW to the old platform officially in the future.

Unfortunately I still see no way to find out whether the (IMHO) most important difference of the new platform - HDR10+ - is available on the old platform when using the new FW.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Mark0x:
Hi,

I was following this topic since a few weeks when I saw your firmware discussions on 55POS9002/12 then I would like to share with you my observation. Even if they are moreless the same as yours:

I installed first version 105.1.2.13 through USB with the upgrade_loader.pkg, worked without any issue, only had to reconfigure the TV and reinstall applications. Then I upgraded to 105.1.2.17 with the upg file from the upgrade menu.

I didn't notice major differences compared to official firmware:

Pros: A few menu/settings added, the ones you already described (color spectrum settings, dolby digital plus audio format, football ambilight style..).

Cons: With the official 55POS9002/12 firmware I was able to connect my bluetooth headphones by using the application "bluetooth pair". It doesn't work with OLED803/903 firmware. The headphone is detected, I can do bluetooth pairing but it won't connect to the two different headphones tested. :(

I was not able to test HDR10+ compatibility due to the lack of HDR10+ sources.

After a whole day of evaluation, with my usage, my conclusion is that today the Pro/Cons balance is in favor of the official firmware. Then I reverted to TPM171E_003.000.246.005 with exactly the same procedure (upgrade_loader.pkg) and without any issue.

Good thing to know is that the operation is reversible too. ;)

my two cents.. :)
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
Same here for my Bluetooth speaker but i prefer the more smoothness of the 803/903 fw than the bt speaker.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Mark0x:
Ok, I didn't detect a noticable difference in smoothness, maybe.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
Imo ram management is much better and system keep being smooth even without reboot sometimes.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

new firmware for 2017 TPM171E: https://toengel.net/philipsblog/201...2018er-tvs-mit-android-tv-7-tpm171e-3-1-12-0/

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
Not good enough the changelog to roll back ☻
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] frxx696:
Hi everybody,

I have Philips Tv 50PUS7303 for a few months now and I'm very satisfied except one problem which occurred few weeks ago. Tv randomly goes to shop mode (you cann't change to home mode without restarting tv) and then you lose isf calibration settings. HDMI also not working in shop mode. If anybody have solution I'll be gratefull. I update tv to last firmware 105.001.002.013. Here is the video file

h**s://uploadfiles.io/xf0x0
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Xophile:
Hi!

I have 43PUS6432/12 and I can't for the world find out where to change the "start page"

Can I set it to always start [MENTION=2179664]hdmi[/MENTION]1 or maybe to the app page?

Thanks!
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

no - it's not possible...

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Xophile:
What a bummer and a very simple, "standard" feature I would say.

Thanks for your reply!
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
We also don't have picture in picture :))))) I had a CRT TV with picture in picture functionality between TV and Composit, and this "smart tv" can't. :) Philips, the best software developers on this earth. PS: Sony Android TV with one single tv tunner has picture in picture functionality between TV and external sources. How can Sony do it and Philips can't, is beyond me.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] blop135:
Yep I couldn't agree more, it would be perfect to make it start on the home page.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] NOABOU:
Philips 32PFS6402 Android TV

Hi everybody,

A new member here... I already started a new thread but was recommended to try this one by a more seasoned xda user.

So, here's my question: Does anybody happen to know what is the SOC on the 32PFS6402 Android TV? It says MediaTek MT5800 but I can't find out if it's A9...A53 or what. Any ideas how capable that TV would be for running Android games?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] frxx696:
Anybody have solution for this problem. Please..
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
HI,

[MENTION=9478086]NOABOU[/MENTION]

install AIDA64 app to see more information

[MENTION=9463894]frxx696[/MENTION]

install firmware 1.2.17: https://toengel.net/philipsblog/firmware-download/

[MENTION=9350973]All[/MENTION]

Android TV 8 Oreo rollout has been started for 7272 models: https://toengel.net/philipsblog/2018/10/01/philips-android-tv-8-oreo-rollout-hat-begonnen/

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] andellove:
hi,

i have philips 55PUS7503 but when i manaul install (some) apps ( google playstore apps) but not installed via tv ( because not shown) so i download via smartphone and send the apk to the tv and installed, but i wont appear on the home apps but when i want to open the app , i must go to apps management and open it there and not shown in the home apps appearance.

its the app sunatv iptv ?

the strange thing is that some apps are shown but some not in the home apps page. is there an reason or option to add or let the not shown apps in the home page?

sorry for my bad englisch
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] nullbert:
The apps don't have leanback support. Which is one of the reasons why they're not in the TVs Play Store. You can use the app TV App Repo to generate a Leanback shortcut to the apk.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] andellove:
ok thanks for youar answer....could you tel me hown the app TV APP REPO works and how to use it?

i have also have a call support ticket at philips regarding above issue....because the apps are IPTV apps and available at playstore so why not compatible for the TV... they have send me an email to log the logfiles of the apps and to look if it's a bug of it can't be fixed?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] nullbert:
[youtube]FKqjtB9Lf3U[/youtube]

Quicktip: Seek and you shall find. Don't overflow the forum with questions you just as easily could have found the answer to yourself. Supplied link literally took me seconds to find.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] SacredDeviL666:
Member Conduct

Thread Cleaned.

Lets keep the discussion on topic and everyone starts of as a noob i think i am still a noob honestly, that simply doesn't mean a tenured/knowledgeable/experienced can belittle the latter.

Assist the users if you can if not leave it alone and if someone is offending hit report button and we will take care of it.

Please do not engage yourselves in such offending posts.

Forum Rules:-

Lets all get back and have some fun/gulp beers :highfive: (my definition of fun :eek: )

Thanks

SacredDeviL666

Forum Moderator.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] chealyjazz:
Just a quick question I have purchased a55POS9002/05 oled uk version and have noticed that there has been no firmware update for a long time has anyone used the European updates 55POS9002/12 without any problems
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

new firmware for 2018 TVs online: https://toengel.net/philipsblog/201...18er-tvs-mit-android-tv-7-tpm171e-105-1-2-75/

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
When i go to download it still link to the . 1.17 update? And on the official page I can't find it too
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

it's currently only available via OTA (TV update menu)....

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
Ok thanks, so no changelog at the moment?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] NOABOU:
HI again,

Thanks for the info, however, I realize now that my question wasn't clear... I don't actually own the said TV, but I was considering getting one. The information I got from Philips was just quoting what was already on their web page and googling did not turn out any information about what the Mediatek MT5800 SOC actually is.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
Hi,

The best way is to go to a retail store where this TV is on display and test it for yourself, benchmark and display tests (DSE tests, etc). From personal experience, the 3D game performance is quite modest on any MTK powered Android TV. A midrange smartphone with Snapdragon 625 is light years faster than any Android TV hardware platform I have seen, with just one exception, the nVidia Shield. But, of course, the nVidia Shield is more expensive than an Xbox One S, and for me it doesn't worth the price. There is Mi Box from Xiaomi, but it has similar 3D game performance as any native Android TV I have tested, it is really modest. You can use RetroArch for any games, but it is not able to run PSP games fluently. PS1 games are the most complex games that you can run perfectly on the native Android TV. You can make an integrated multi arcade machine with retroarch and a USB stick with roms :) You will need a simple Xbox 360 controller and you are all set.

Cheers mate,

Vlad
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] lgg279:
good evening, finally after 40 days and returned my pus 7100/12 from assistance. I expected to find a pus7100 / r2 but I found myself a pus6401 / 12. now I do not know what to do I have not got to try it, the TV is of my father I will use it little. what do you think I have to do? I saw that it has Android 7.1 last update June 2018
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
Hi,

You need to have the correct NVM.BIN and NVM.EED files loaded to your TV. Basically your TV was not correctly configured after the mainboard was upgraded. You can either search this forum for the uploaded nvm files, and do the load yourself, or you can contact the service once more and kindly ask them to finish what they started.

Cheers,

Vlad
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] brigidino:
Hi vlad

I never understood this, i probably have to do the same, but what can i have to expect after this? and what without this?

Thanks a lot

L
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
Hi,

It seems that those two files are the configuration files that set the TV model number, TV capabilities and model specific settings, like HDR and passive 3D capabilities. After you import the correct files, the devices you have will correctly recognize the capabilities of your TV. For example, the Xbox One will recognize the TV as being HDR and 3D capable.

Cheers,

Vlad
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] brigidino:
So it is just for external device
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
No. It is also for HDR and 3D on internal apps.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

also for correct Ambilight Settings, drivers, Panel... Just write me an e-mail (see my blog) and we will figure out, what to do...

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
Hi,

I have attached an old version of NVM.BIN and NVM.EED files that work best for me, as it has HDR enabled.

Please follow the instructions in the zip file and put in the correct files for your TV model.

Cheers,

Vlad
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] brigidino:
Do i will loose some feature?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
You gain features. Not lose.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] brigidino:
ok good , i just downloaded your zip but the autorun looks missing
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

did you find out, how to install the files? If not, drop us a note...

Toengel@Alex