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[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
Hahahahaha :))))) Then you must fix the input lag. You have no choice :P

If you want to play games on it, then it is a must to have the new R2 board installed for low input lag.

Then you can have exactly my setup. 55PUS7150/R2 with Xbox One S for 4K signal with Kodi on One S playing the 3D content over 4K signal to the TV :)

In this case, do the upgrade. And you will be able to play 3D BluRay discs, and even 3D Xbox 360 games via backwards compatibility on Xbox One S because the One S outputs 4K signal via HDMI, and 3D will work. But again, you will always need the One S or a 4K capable external device to play 3D content :)

Go with the upgrade and make your son happy :P

PS: Kodi has great 3D support :P

Good luck my friend.

Cheers,

Vlad
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

Oreo is available for 2017 and 2018 TVs: https://toengel.net/philipsblog/201...vs-mit-android-tv-8-oreo-tpm171e-107-0-222-1/

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
Is slow as in the video you posted?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

no.

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] UKoort:
Thank again Vlad, I'll do the upgrade.

It seems now is cheapest choise as well :)

And there probably will be no lack of 4k devices in the future :)
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
You are welcome :)
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ckarv:
Already upgraded, OTA, worked well. Now it's time to see if something broke ? (55PUS8303)

Thanks for having our backs Alex/Toengel! Very, very much appreciated by the whole community I'm sure.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Mark0x:
Hi,

Some remarks after upgrading to oreo my 55POS9002:

Pros:

- More fluid than previous version

- Oreo home page much better

- Google assistant works quite well

- Google home able to switch on and off the TV now

- DTS through HDMI ARC works fine now

- Kodi seems to be able to switch the TV framerate to avoid judder when playing 24p contents

Cons:

- When playing films larger than 16/9 in kodi or amazon prime, the image aspect ratio is completely wrong, black borders on the top and bottom are twice larger than it should be, and image is crushed in the middle.!

=> It has to be fixed, not usable as is.

- impossible to pair bluetooth headphones now even with sideloaded app

- when opening TV settings the movie is immediately paused, which makes the settings very hard to tune.

- Applications like kodi, vlc, or file exploreres are no more able to see USB drives in NTFS, only FAT32 now!?! WTF Philips! FAT32 was created for Win95 25years ago! you can't propose that on 2018 high end TVs...
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] cpasoft:
With the new upgrade to Oreo, on Hue system we have lost the distance parameter on the lights.

Also, there are more flashing on the lightstrip (when is in a dark scene and there is a change of light, first turn the with on and then change to the correct colour). This must be corrected as well.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] dimqa:
Applications like kodi, vlc, or file exploreres are no more able to see USB drives in NTFS, only FAT32 now!?! WTF Philips! FAT32 was created for Win95 25years ago! you can't propose that on 2018 high end TVs...

I have the same issue :(
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
Many issues also with prime video aspect ratio of movies...i don't know if a total clean installation would solve this, I don't rest my tv after update... Anyone has tried?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Mark0x:
I did, and the aspect ratio is still wrong in prime video and kodi (only cinemascope movies 21:9).
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] uzi2:
It's a PITA, but I don't think that is the issue as the system "Media" app can access the files...
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Mark0x:
Well, the situation is:

Philips "media" app can see both FAT32 and NTFS

Any other app only see FAT32 formatted storage devices.

It was already seen one month ago on other Philips TV with Oreo:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidTV/...s_android_oreo_update_cant_read_ntfs_anymore/

I don't know the exact root cause and I don't really care, I'm just talking about facts.

i.e:

- With previous android firmware, all apps were able to see my NTFS hard drives and read photo, video, etc without any issue. Now only philips "media" can see it.

- With my Xiaomi Mi Box and my nividia Shield, both with Android 8 Oreo, and same apps, I can see the same hard drive without any issue.

Then everything tends to show that something linked to NTFS is broken with this new firmware.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
Hi,

I am also on Oreo on QM163E platform (55PUS7150/R2) and NTFS USB hard drive is recognized without issue on all apps. I have tested with Kodi, VLC, MX Player and internal Media app.

Also there are no issues with letter boxed movies aspect ratio. All works. All is fine.

Maybe there is an issue with your platform firmware. On QM163E NTFS works without issues.

Cheers,

Vlad
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ChimeyJimmey:
Even if that's true,

unfortunately, the WiFi "AC" issue with Oreo on this platform still persists... :eek:
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Mark0x:
Interesting thanks! maybe they will find a solution soon then. I just hope they will not add some other bugs, because this Oreo firmware fixed some other bugs of the previous firmwares.

Seems the firmware of 2017 and 2018 philips TV platforms TPM17.1 and TPM18.1 will be the same now, hopefully reducing the number of firmwares will help to have more engineers working on the firmwares and not the opposite...

This release has not been tested properly, the aspect ratio bug is quite obvious even in the preinstalled prime video app.

I would say to Philips engineers: if some apps are preinstalled, please at least try these apps..
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
I feel you. You can't say anything to the Philips "engineers" as they don't have any official channel of reporting bugs. We are pieces of sh!ts to them.

Philips is full of idiots anyway, even if you manage to report anything. Nothing gets solved. Trust me. I have done this multiple times.

Every firmware this incompetents release fixes one thing and brakes another. We are beta testers for them.

After I installed Oreo I was really surprised that I didn't had any new issues with my TV after the upgrade. But as we can see, this is not the case with all platforms.

Philips mantra:

Life is a lottery, be lucky :))))) f#ck the clients

We should all turn our guns on them and request our money back... as our devices don't work properly.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
They even added an how to row but, honestly the ones that need an how to are them. How to beta test and release decent firmwares.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] KiiRan91:
Yes me too, aspect ratio IS just **** since the new update

Also, there is no more "headset" on audio configuration so literrally WE CAN not use headset anymore ? WTF ???

+ Optical audio out that emit nothing: not a sound or a light in the cable. So my headset doesn't work anymore....

Just WTF ??? 5months of waiting After 2016tv for this ?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] cpasoft:
is it possible downgrade to Android 7??

Just curious about that...
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
Thanks to Alex@Toengel, YES, we can downgrade.

Go to his blog and search the firmware archive page for the Upgrade Loader that you are interested in. Make absolutely sure that the Upgrade Loader file is for your correct platform, and not another one. As you can brick your TV.

Link:

https://toengel.net/philipsblog/firmware-archiv/

Good luck my friend.

Cheers,

Vlad
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] cpasoft:
Thank you Vlad (and thanks to [MENTION=8673431]Toengel[/MENTION] as well, of course...
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] pikaczu666:
I have got the same problem with NTFS hard drive plugged in to my 50pus7383/12 Philips tv, Anroid 8.0. version TPM171E _ 107.000.222.001 I would like to downgrade to Ando 7.0 TPM171E _ 105.001.002.075 Is it downgrade safe? Can someone post a Guide how to do it? Many thanks in advance
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
1. Download the file

2. Format a USB stick (FAT32 only)

3. Copy the downloaded file (upgrade_loader.pkg) to root directory of USB stick.

4. Power on TV - so picture is displayed (Do not insert USB stick at this stage)

5. Unplug mains power cable from the TV

6. Insert USB stick into USB port (USB 3 port - Blue) Should this fail to install then swap to USB 2.0 port.

7. Plug mains power cable back into TV.

8. You should get a message onscreen saying "Software Upgrade in process" - this will stay onscreen until it completes.

9. After software has installed, and TV fully rebooted do a full "Re-installation of TV via Menu" > Setup > All settings > General Settings > Reinstall TV > OK

>>Important: This will take around 15 to 20 minutes to fully install, once complete the TV will automatically reboot back into Android. Then you can remove the USB stick and recheck.

In some instances the TV may appear idle for up to 20 minutes until any messages start appearing on screen.

Hope it helps,

Vlad
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] gazdajezda:
Oh no. I also get black bars in Kodi after updating to Oreo today (55POS9002).

Also it freezes 2 times when press Stop to stop playing movie. Not like it.

Is downgrade without reset apps and their settings possible? Guess not, sadly TB (titanium backup) is not working. Ehh...
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Mark0x:
In kodi, a workaround before having a fix from philips is to use the option "minimize black bars" in player settings and set it to the max value 20%. By doing that the aspect ratio seems to be almost back to normal.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] gazdajezda:
Mark0x thanx. Just tried it and really is better. Also TV home screen (Android) is now much better, so at the moment i'm quite happy with it :)

R'u from SI?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Mark0x:
No, French.

I find this release better than the previous too, because I don't use a lot USB drives and I have this workaround for black frames in kodi but it's quite annoying to see philips fix some issues and create new ones at each release.

Being myself an engineer, I can understand that some tricky bugs cannot be detected easily during beta test, because there is so much different apps, settings, combinations, etc.. 100% test coverage is just impossible.

but the black frames and NTFS bugs are so obvious. They didn't spend enough time to test this firmware..

Philips customers just have to decide which bug they prefer :eek:
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] gazdajezda:
Yes, exactly. Now i also find it better, especially because Kodi operate faster. I hope that next update will be perfect (if there gonna be one) :)
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] cpasoft:
On TPM171E_R.107.000.163.002, also Android Oreo, the NTFS is working well on external apps.

But the upk file for this firm is not available, at least I cannot find it for downgrade to it...

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[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
That's interesting, for witch model is that firmware?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] cpasoft:
65pus7303 made in 02/2019

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[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
You can try to change model name in service menu and start the software update search
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] cpasoft:
Why??

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[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
To have the same result like installing the upg of that firmware manually
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] cpasoft:
This firm is not available any more, because there is a new one (which is giving us problems on NTFS access, and aspect ratio).

The point would be get this firm, which is working well, install it and wait on it for the next update..

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[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
The problem is that tv is not oled. I've made that changing my pos9002/12 model to OLED803/12 to install 803 firmware. But 803 is oled like pos9002
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

change it back - there is no need to make this change... both are using the same firmware with Oreo...

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
Hi, what do you mean that we can use the same firmware of the 7303?

---------- Post added at 10:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:37 PM ----------

Ah ok, i understand now, yes i already changed it back because pos9002 and Oled803 use the same firmware now [emoji1360][emoji1360][emoji1360]
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

you should consider to read my blog regularily... ;)

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
I do as much as I can because it is in Deutsch...

But what's wrong with what i wrote? I know that 803 and 9002 use the same firmware now.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] uzi2:
It was the 163.002 firmware that introduced the problem and it continued into 222.001

No point in downgrading
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] cpasoft:
Into 163.002, the usb It's working well... :eek:
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] dare_vv:
Guys, do you recommend any BT outdoor speakers to connect to the Philips TV serie 71xx R2?

I need something to cover the distance of about 5m, but with a wall or window in between.

Which BT version exactly is supported by the TV?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

try the App AIDA64.... maybe you can read the hardware information...

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
Hi,

From my experience with my 55PUS7150/R2 the BT range is low. Like 2 meters. If I go farther than 2 meters I lose the signal to my BT headphones (tried two different models). The same is valid for the Xbox One S gamepad connected via BT. 2 meters seems to be the max range for me. And this is without any walls or windows between.

Maybe for others, they have a better instalation and a better range for the BT signal, but for me is only 2 meters. Maybe there is something wrong with my upgrade. Don't know.

Hope it helps,

Vlad
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] uzi2:
That's good :) but only the system media app would access USB for me on that firmware.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Alcagoita:
We need your blog in English :)
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
I second that :) I use Chrome to automatically translate the pages from german to english but it works like 80% of the time. But I think Toengel blog can have a bigger following if it is translated in english. Alex is The Best :)
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] gazdajezda:
Yesterday i subscribe to it (RSS) and despite i had learned german ilanguagr in school, english version would be great.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Grzegorz_Pietrakowski:
Hello, I am the owner of the 55pus7150 / R2 television. After upgrading to oreo Android, a Google assistant appeared on the TV. But the TV has a remote control without a microphone and there is no way to issue commands. Is it possible to buy an accessory that will allow you to use the assistant on this TV?

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[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Ankfejs (Duckface21):
Just download the google remote app on your phone and use that as mic!
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] jan.stanicek:
Hello.

Wouldn't be possible to use remote from other type of TV? Is it possible to buy the remote?

Thanks.

-Jan
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
HI,

new TPM171E firmware online: https://toengel.net/philipsblog/201...vs-mit-android-tv-8-oreo-tpm171e-107-0-230-0/

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
Changelog TPM171E_107.000.230.000 - Date: 2019/03/11

Android Oreo 8.0.0 based software

Support for Android Oreo dual tuner OLED devices (803/903)

Improvements for dual tuner PVR recordings

Improvements for picture aspect ratios in VoD

Improvements for NTFS-formatted USB with movie-player apps

PS: I like that they say this firmware has "improvements" for NTFS formated drives :))))) like, it didn't worked before, but now it is "improved" :))))) hahahaha. What a bunch of a$$holes
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Mark0x:
Hey, it was not a bug, it was a "FEATURE" ;)

If these big issues are fixed in such a short time, its great. I'll try, hopefully no new bug this time.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] _Negan_:
Great they already fixed...

---------- Post added 11-03-2019 at 12:06 AM ---------- Previous post was 10-03-2019 at 11:54 PM ----------

Only for 803/903? In ota on my pos9002 I can't find the update

On OTA there was no update, downloaded from toengel site and done with usb stick
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] gazdajezda:
Great! Hopefully 'glitches' are fixed in new release.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] webwude:
Just FYI: new update fixed both aspect in Amazon Prime and NTFS access.

Only my sound issue with MX Player remains: https://xdaforums.com/apps/mx-player/mx-player-android-tv-fire-tv-stick-4k-t3909852
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Mark0x:
NTFS is fixed yes. Unfortunately, this firmware only fixed the aspect ratio issue in amazon prime video but not at all for other apps like kodi or VLC.

Hopefully these apps provides some options to correct this issue but it has to be done for each film and it was working better with android 7 firmware.

Better than nothing..
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] webwude:
Indeed. MX Player and Kodi still have this issue. I will open a support ticket. With the internal media player everything is fine.

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[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] zanziok:
Downgrade 43PUS7303

Any way to downgrade 43PUS7303 from Oreo back to Nougat ?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
Read the thread a few pages back
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] zanziok:
Ok, found a downgrade method with "Upgrade Loader", I follow all the steps the TV starts the installation but when it reboots it still is Android Oreo.

In the instructions of this article "Philips: Downgrade mit Upgrade Loader" on tongel .net , the 7th step is a little confusing. Do I need to install the normal firmware of Android Nougat after doing the "Upgrade Loader" procedure?

I tried so by putting the normal firmware of Nougat named autorun_TPM171E_105.001.002.075.upg in USB Stick but nothing happens when I connect it to my TV. I followed this tutorial "Philips: Updated update process for Android TVs" on toengel .net , and although it says to wait after plugging in the usb so that the TV copies the installation file nothing happens even after waiting for 30 minutes.

Anyone to help me with the downgrade?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
Please mention step by step what have you done.

What file did you use to downgrade?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] zanziok:
I used the upgrade_loader.pkg of both of these Nougat versions: TPM171E_105.1.2.75_upgrade_loader and TPM171E_105.1.2.17_upgrade_loader. tried 2-3 times.

I put the upgrade_loader file in the root of a USB and start the procedure by unplugging the TV from power and plugging it in again with the USB connected to the 2.0 port.

The procedure starts, TV shows the message Software upgrade in process and it lasts 5-10 minutes.

After it finishes, it boots back to Android Oreo.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
For me the downgrade took more time, like 20 minutes or so. It should have worked. Try to use another USB stick. Make sure the USB stick is formated to FAT32 with MBR (and not GPT). Also try to go back a few more versions of firmware, as you can upgrade via upg file via USB afterwards without any problem.

If still it doesn't work please contact Philips Support and ask them for the procedure to downgrade back to Android TV 7, as the current Oreo firmware still have issues.

Please let us know what response you will receive from Philips.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] zanziok:
Thanks mate, you saved me.

I tried with an even older firmware and it worked.

Now I want to upgrade to the latest Nougat firmware available, Can anyone confirm if this " TPM171E_105.001.002.075.upg " is the latest nougat firmware for 43PUS7303 ?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
You are welcome. Glad it worked.

To see if it is the last version you can look at the change log of the last firmware and see what is the last firmware before it says "based on android 8.0 oreo" or something like that.

Also make sure you restore to factory settings after all is done. Just to be sure you will not have any other issues.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

no - for 2018 models the latest Nougat is 105.1.2.84 - see my firmware archive... 105.x = Nougat, 107.x = Oreo

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] zanziok:
Thanks a lot guys for the help. I just upgraded to the latest Nougat firmware but one thing I noticed during the Update process was the Oreo logo still being there animating until the update was complete.

After I downgraded from Oreo earlier today to an old Nougat firmware, I did a factory reset and then upgraded to 105.1.2.75 and just now to 105.1.2.84 but that Oreo logo still there even though the OS is Nougat.

Is this normal ?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Mark0x:
If you're talking about the big circle in the middle of a black screen during update it is not an Oreo Logo, just a Circle..

Android o logo:

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1...0..0.0.0.......1......gws-wiz-img.K-bpr0zSaug
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] zanziok:
Oh I thought that one circle was the Oreo logo, my bad.

Nothing to worry about then. Thanks a lot to everyone who helped me.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] nineoneone24:
Just installed my Android 8 on OLED803. No problems so far. Cheers!
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] joeriv:
I have a question about the resolution, mayber there is someone here that can give a correct anwser ?

So i just got and upgraded my new oled803 to oreo and noticed the interface is in full hd is that correct ?

I installed some apps to check resolution and they give me 1920x1080.

Does that mean standard apps like netflix or streaming trough the build in chromecast is limited to 1920x1080 ?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
Hi,

1080p is only the app interface. The video streaming is done at 4K, with 4K output. I know it is confusing, it was the same for me also. On 4K TV you have 1080p app interface and games, but the video streaming is done at 4K, also the output, what you see on the screen is displayed at 4K. This is true for all video apps like Kodi, VLC, MX Player, etc. The interface of Kodi for example is at 1080p but the video played in Kodi is rendered and displayed in 4K, as there are two layers that are combined and displayed on the tv screen. Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Vlad
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

FullHD devices have 720p GUI...

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MareleVlad:
Yes. 4K TV has 1080p GUI plus 4K video streaming resolution, and FullHD TV has 720p GUI with 1080p video streaming resolution. This is done to save CPU and GPU power. Either way all Android TV's are really underpowered. In such a big space you can't fit a decent snapdragon chipset. MTK $ucks
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] sweetohmygod:
The latest update for 49pus6561/12, are there any known issues with wifi? It randomly disconnects me, saying that there is no wifi connection, although wifi is up and running. I have to enter settings, stop wifi and start it again for it to work. Any ideeas or extra details that i need to offer? Also, youtube app wont see the display as available much of the time
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Toengel:
Hi,

it's a known issue with 26.17...

Toengel@Alex
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] joeriv:
Thank you for the useful information!
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] blop135:
Hi everyone,

I don't know it the subject has been brought up but why the hell do we have 100 mbs lan card? Was it seriously too expensive to put a 1GB/s card ? When I try to watch 4k content from my NAS it buffers all the time. I tried on wifi it's works better but still buffer a little bit (works better in wifi than lan What the F*****??!!) I'll try tonight to see if it works better with an USB3 / Ethernet 1Gb/S adapter.

Am I the only one that encounter this kind of issues?

Have a nice day :)