yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] daheufster:
Running 2.61 about a week. No problems what so ever, no missed calls, sms notification sometimes still is slow but this also occures on a nokia --> bad network provider. i can't confirm battery drains, my mobile is always on a powercharge (in car, on work, at home)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] dkb218:
Been using it for about 4 days now. Within 5 minutes of using, my mda reset for no reason. Haven't had a problem since. Calls sound clearer. Not much difference between this and the 2.47 rom. I'm checking the battery issue and it seems that this does eat more power than previous roms - not by much though.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mezozoy:
Improved Skype quality with 2.61 radio.

Skype call quality through GPRS/EDGE was not acceptable with previous radios- lost packets, too much lag, echo etc. Works OK with Wi-Fi, but when on EDGE I used it just for text chat.

I see some reports about improved data connections with this radio so, just for the fun, decided to test Skype with 2.61 radio on EDGE. To my surprise, I was able to have descent conversation. Not “full duplex” but still way better than with other radio ROMs. I'm on T-Mobile (US/Michigan/Detroit Metro area), using WM6 (heavy customized orwell), Skype 2.2.0.18. CPU overclocked to 260MHz.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Vilem:
Also have to confirm, battery "draining" is higher on this one.

Running WM6 with 47 before upgrading.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] computer9cowboy:
for me the battery drain doesn't seem as bad as the 2.25.11 radio i had b4, it is hard to say, kind of a subjective measure.

My wizards off the charger for ~12 hours leaves them at around 50-60%

that is ok by me. I make lots of calls on each and have push email (w large atachments), and msn/aim running all the time.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] wgary:
- Battery is at least as good as before.

- Better signal strength.

- Recommended!

Molski final ROM

Switching from 2.47
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] kyakubov:
OK had few missed calls and no voicemail notification

OK, last night i was informed that I did not pick up my phone few times, by 2 of my friends.

and apparently had a new voice mail when I checked my voice mail. I did not get a notification at all.

I am going back to 2.19.11
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] computer9cowboy:
My Mini S stopped getting a GPRS/EDGE connection againg with radio 2.61 and PDAViet3 WM6. I flashed with 2.25.11 and got no EDGE still, then I flashed back to 2.61 and I got data again for a while. I think it is a PDAViet 3 issue and not the radio, but it sure is strange. I am trying the underground edition wm6 rom on the Mini S now.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] hpspec:
Works Great Here

I upgraded from the 2.47 Radio ROM and must say that this Radio, 2.61, provides me with faster tower connect times, better signal strength (a couple bars when I had none previously), and no missed calls/notifications so far. I have only been testing it for a couple days, but hopefully this radio will continue to hold strong.

RIP rom section of XDA-Dev :-(
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] cbemoore:
As has already been reported, the 2.61 ROM won't accept an incoming call while a GPRS or EDGE connection is active.

To all those people with missed calls - might your handset have been connected to GPRS at the time? Maybe this would explain the problems?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] icezar:
Mine is always connected to gprs... i recive mails every minute, i have exch, live and 2 pop3 accounts plus messenger, news etc. So GPRS traffic is almost always on. An i receive a bunch of cals... since i don`t have voice mail active i do not know if i realy miss some calls but nobody complained for now.

I use underground WM6.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] dkb218:
Ok, testing over and sad to say, so is this rom.

Call quality was excellent. The radio reconnected quickly after getting off the subway - or so it would seem.

I found that while I had full bars, I had no signal. I would send sms and find them still in the out box hours later - after wondering why that woman didn't get back with me!

After a phone call, I had to reset the device to get GPRS running again...

Battery drain started getting worse the longer I had this rom installed.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] dkb218:
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[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] polaco1977:
Officially 2.61.11 Radio from Qtek?

ZAMSKY:

I found a link in this page http://ppctuning.org/?page=Only-radioROM.

This is the Radio you are talking about?

I dont know swedish at all but isnt very hard to translate

"Oficiální Radio část od Švédského Qteka"

Did you install this radio?

Paulo
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] computer9cowboy:
I thought i was the only one with this issue. I am releived that at least one other person is experiencing it.

Now for the million dollar question, what ROM os version are you using?

WM5 or WM6 or custom cook

please tell me exactly

I have had the GPRS loss problem with PDAViet3 (WM6) and WM6 underground edition, it has shown up on an O2 Mini S and a T-Mobile Vario (both german versions)

I am trying the WM6 basic (stock) rom now to see if it crops up on that.

I will note that I had the same issue with the default flash of the underground edtion rom (2.47 radio)

My hypothesis is that it is an issue with custom cooked wm6 or perhaps wm6 in general, that is why I am going back to the base WM6 rom on the Mini S.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] cg87:
I have just tested 2.61, 2.19, and 2.47 and all of them cannot receive calls when data is being transfered over GPRS. So I guess I go back to 2.61 for now since it's the latest one.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] dkb218:
Actually I'm using the official T-Mobile 2.26 rom.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] bachviet:
I have used this radio ROM for almost a week and there is no issue with it whatsoever.

I like this ROM better than the 2.47.11.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] wgary:
I agree, going on 4 days. Battery life is better. Signal strength is better. Reacquisition of signal is better.

To me, 2.47.11 was a big step forward, I could get signals where before I had drops. And this ROM is another big step forward. Now I can often get signal where my wifes BlackBerry falters (we're both on TMo) -- which I am juvenile enough to really enjoy.

I haven't experienced the missed calls. I stream audio using Resco Radio, and calls come through just like before...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] computer9cowboy:
I have been using IPL/SPL 2.26 - Radio 2.61 - WM6 Base Rom on the Mini S since last night and I just put that combo on the MDA this afternoon. So far no loss of GPRS/EDGE. There are also some annoying bugs in both PDAViet3 and Underground Edition that aren't there in the base rom.

I am thinking that something in those cooked roms is the problem for me. I had the GPRS drop on 2.47 radio with the Underground rom also, and I had GPRS drop on the PDAViet3 with 2.25 radio.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] polaco1977:
It's a fact..

CG87:

When you use your gprs/edge connection you CANT receive normal calls on your phone. :(

It's blocked directly from your carrier and has nothing related to the version of radio you are using.

Paulo
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] wgary:
Again, let me say that I do receive calls while streaming audio on the TMo-USA network. So this may be carrier-dependent, I don't know.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] computer9cowboy:
GPRS/EDGE and phone calls

You should be about to get a call when using GPRS/EDGE, which will suspend your data session. I can't see why any network would not have the data suspend feature. I live in rural Vermont USA and my local GSM company has provided these services without fail since 2004. I have never missed a call because i was using data features.

We are still talking about 2G/2.5G services here. Someday we will have 3G accross the world and we can all do video calls while downloading data, being connected to the office vpn, syncing emails etc.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] dwny:
Tested radio for about 5 days and everyday my dial pad froze causing me to initiate a soft reset. It did freeze everytime but I would say at least 2 times a day. For me, this is a lot considering I'm good for around 4-6 calls a day. At this rate, my phone only works 40% of the time. The #'s don't add up to me.

Bluetooth....I can hear but can't be heard with my Motorola h700, Scala works OK. Switched back to 2.19.11 and both earpieces work. :cool:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] shantzg001:
Well, a cpl of mythbusters/clarifications for you guys:

(I know this because I work in GSM domain and for the past 3 yrs have been part of a team developing complete software for a new nokia BTS (i.e., the network side of the radio), so have a bit more "inside" info :)

1. Simultaneous voice (GSM) and data (GPRS/EDGE) calls depends on carrier network as well as the phone you are using. You can search more on GPRS "classes" and "types" for more information.

2. Someone said a few posts ago that the sensitivity of the device can't depend on the software. Actually it can. I did not particularly work on the receiver modules of the software but I can tell you this much that sensitivity does depend on software as well, hardware can give you some signal but it depend son the software to decode it. basically you can say, the software has to take full advantage of the hardware. It cannot "increase" the sensitvity of the hardware but it surely can fail to utilize it and mess up the sensitivity of the complete "device".

Hope that helps :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] decimusmaximus7:
Installing with windows vista

Hey I am running Windows vista now and the update utility stops responding every time I try to update my rom, just before it starts. Any suggestions?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jtrash:
Using Radio ROM 2.61 & Faria's Extended Rom

I have posted this also in Faria AKU3.3 post :

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1139048&postcount=665

Short story: I notised that when I installed the Radio 2.61 after Faria's latest ROM that the /extended_rom/network/ has lots of trash folder (check post above).

Any ideas?

Thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] McHale:
yah. Find an XP machine. The upgrade utility doesn't work under Vista...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mfrazzz:
Just installed the 2.61.11 radio on a stock (CID-Locked) Cingular 8125. While I can't comment on battery drain yet, or reception, I can comment that I could not get Microsoft Voice Command to work with my BT headset when I upgraded to 2.47.11, so I went back to 2.25.11. Now with 2.61.11, Microsoft Voice Command seems to be working just fine! WooHoo! Hoping I get some of the reception improvements (including call clarity) I had with the 2.47.11 radio.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] hiimcliff:
been using this radio since its appearence and its great. i must say. works like a charm. gets reception quick after none reception. wifi works good, bluetooth works good. i dont get the voicemail notification problem like the rest. works well with wm6. im keeping it.

my only issue is when first connecting to wifi, it starts off slow then builds up speed. its not horrible tho.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] neonkoala:
Agreed this radio ROM has been working perfectly even back with the Hermes version which screwed the abttery status!

I don't know why people keep putting that bluetooth and WiFi are fine... of course they're going to be fine they have nothing to do with the radio ROM, the wifi is based on OS drivers and the bluetooth on a stack present again in the OS ROM.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mfrazzz:
While that may be the case, numerous people have seen issues with BT when upgrading to the 2.47 ROM. For me personally, my BT seemed to work (I made 2 phone calls using my headset for about 90 mins total with no issue), but Microsoft Voice Command quit functioning with my BT headset with the 2.47 radio (this is on a stock, CID Locked 8125, so no other ROM changes). As soon as I went back to 2.25 radio, Voice Command worked again.

Others in the 2.47 thread have reported similar with various BT issues after upgrading the radio, and then the problem goes away after downgrading. So there is some sort of connection it seems (real or imagined ;) ).
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] HamiNguyen:
I use rom WM06 PDAviet4 I try this radio but after close Radio :(

Every body know why and I try Up rom Faria -htc-wizard-aku3.3-page-pool-8mb but this consider

And I Up Rom Zin O2 is normal

Now My Radio 01.12.10 and rom is Faria -htc-wizard-aku3.3-page-pool-8mb

Hepl me:o
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mfrazzz:
I've been using my phone off and on today, and so far, I've had very little battery drain since putting on this ROM. Very cool.

But I have noticed that it appears my phone has rebooted a few times today. I haven't seen it do this myself, but I keep seeing that my backlight is resetting back to 10secs where I keep it at 2mins normally. (Does WM5 have a log or anything to show when the last boot happened? I'm curious how often this is happening).

Anyone else having reboots? Again, this is a stock, CID Locked 8125 running the stock Cingular ROM (other than this radio).
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] neonkoala:
Well I suppose there may be bugs caused between the 2 ROMs playing nicely together so I'll give you that, it's just not directly caused by the ROM then, must be a knock on effect from installing specific ROMs with interopability bugs. :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Malik05:
ok so heres an update on this ROM...at first i thought it was amazing because it was a fast signal strength gainer, and it didnt kill my battery, so i was very happy...but i noticed that i get SO many missed calls, that my phone doesnt even report. just today i checked my voicemail (i didnt even get the notification) and i had 5 new voicemails from 3-5 days old...this ROM has issues...it seems great, but its really not...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] McHale:
I also had to downgrade from 2.61. Having too many missed calls where the phone never rings and at times I am unable to hang up a call and the system won't recognize DTMF.

Back to 2.19

What is the Radio that comes with the T-Mobile 2.26? Is that available anyplace?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] neonkoala:
Radio ROMs are still available on the FTP as they do not contain MS code.

I would guess that this is the ROM you are after:

ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.co...nly_Thread/T-Mobile-US_2.24.10_Radio_Only.zip
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Malik05:
i checked the server for 2.19, i wanna try it out, but where is it? i didnt find one for US...im on Tmobile
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] epimazzo:
On my opinion, you can apply this 2.19.11 found on FTP area for T-mobile devices. It doesn't matter if you have a T-mobile or a device from other operator. At least, I applied on mine and is working fine! :D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] skygear:
battery life...

hjkl;' why no delete?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ZeroXtreme:
Missed Calls

Never really had too much problems with missed calls before. I'm currently running my own customized version of the Crossbow Underground Edition, first with Radio 2.47.11 (seldom misses calls) then Radio 2.61.11 which first started out ok, GPRS, MMS, SMS and calls were perfectly fine, then all of a sudden I just keep on getting missed calls, even after a soft reset. I downgraded to 2.19 now and will see if it will really now miss any calls.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mingw:
I had the 2.61 with wm6. Thought it was OK and until I forwarded my work IPSoftphone to my mobile - missed calls. Now going back to 2.19 radio
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PrinceJ:
I went back to 2.25 and didn't miss a call yet. I'll see if I dare upgrade to 2.61 and test again.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Guinness:
OK, help is needed FAST, I tried to update the Radio to fix a Caller ID problem on Incoming Calls, NOW I don't even get incoming calls.

Where is the file and what did u use to update the Radio on your G4?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Tsuioku:
What is the difference between the 2.19.11 UK and 2.19.11 NL radios on the ftp? I was running the UK version and got a missed call this morning. The ringtones that I'm using are located on the sdcard and I enabled the sdcard power management, could this be a cause? Upgraded to 2.61 and running fine so far...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Viperise152:
I''ve this ROM installed for about a week. I get improved single in all my usual hang outs. I don't get any missed calls due to being on the internet and have not noticed any change in battery drain. thx for the ROM
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Guinness:
What ROM are YOU referring too??
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] nitroproductions:
Significant battery drain

I used this on my G4 for a week and I immediately noticed a significant battery drain especially if you listen to music over bluetooth. I went from the 2.25 to the 2.61.I didn't notice a whole lot of difference in call quality or reception (It might be better for some people). The battery drain is a definite con and I'm back to the 2.25 till someone comes up with a less power consuming radio
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] corky:
I recently upgraded to WM6 Most Beautiful using the shelltool on my G4 xda2 mini s, but my radio version never changed at all.

Allways been 2.07, how do i update the radio ?

thanks..
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Guinness:
Ummmm, how about READING the forums. There is LOTS of answers to that question.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] paypalbid:
just download the radio rom and installing will be the same way you install the ROM itself.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] futureshock:
Hi there.... need a little help...

comming from hermes/tytn forum... therfore i don't really now whats going on for wizard.... (had one befor the tytn.... but had to go because no hsdpa ;))

ok my friend have the wizard (Vodafone one's) i think it's a G4 Model (Sim is unlocket from me... had worked...) but now we have dual sim card adapters ... and i had this problem with serveral radio roms that i can't switch the sims... now i have found a fine rom for my tytn ... all workes great for me... but my friends is fighting each time ;) also he had many datacalling drops and so on... (i don't know what radio rom he now have... but he or i never had done any upgrading yet...)

i want to flash this radio rom on his wizard... (VPA) his device isn't CID Unlocked...

now ... what should i do that this work??

hope anyone can help me..

thx

steve
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] radiotrib:
I have an NL Vodafone Qtek 9100 (Wizard) G4 which is SIM unlocked and CID locked, and I just did it completely painlessly.

I went to ppctuning.org, downloaded their Radio Only 2.61.11 ROM from this page http://ppctuning.org/?page=Only-radioROM and flashed it in the normal way.

However, I need to be clear that I have the ppctuning.org, English Language, CID-Locked Superrom 1.1 installed over my original Dutch OS.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Ricci82:
could it be that only the wm6 wizards has problems with the 61.11??
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] computer9cowboy:
EDIT: I started a new thread about a possible solution for WM6 http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=298007

That is what I am starting to think. I have tried just about all the radio roms on both my wizards from 2.19.11 and up.

All the Radio roms above 2.19.11 work great except for one huge show stopper. The GPRS/EDGE drops off and never comes back.

The problem can be reproduced very easily. On roms 2.25.11, 2.47 and 2.61 if I turn on flight mode then turn it off again I don't get the GPRS/EDGE connection back until I reboot the device. Now if it only happened when I turned the radio of and on agian I could live with it, however it happens randomly, I never know when it is going to happen. I usually notice pretty quickly because I get a lot of emails and when the emails stop I know the damn radio F*&%ED up again.

Well you might ask, why don't I just use the 2.19 radio and go on with my life? I am, but the damn reception sucks mega bad on the 2.19 radio. I live in a rural area and the 2.61 radio gets exceptional reception in all "fringe areas" with the 2.61 rom this wizard will best any other phone. I have gotten comments about it, like "your phone works here?".

SO WHY DOES THE GPRS/EDGE DROP? I gues a better question is, is there some sort of tweak/hack that could restart the GPRS? What about that radio operator diagnostics?

I am really in a damn jam here, I love WM6, I hate the 2.19 radio reception but love the reliable data, I love the 2.61 reception but I can't lose data randomly (what is the point of a PPC with exchange push email and an unlimted data plan when I drop data, I pay a good premium for these services)

ARRRGGGGG!!!!!!

any ideas?

Edit:

Could we cook up a WM6 ROM that has some of the executables from one of the AKUs that work with the new radio? I guess I need to try one of the WM5 Roms to check out what happens with the 2.61 radio.

Edit again: I just tried the 2.47 and 2.61 radio with Molski.Biz's AKU 2.3 Final and the GPRS/EDGE drop problem doesn't happen when going into flight mode and back again.

I am now going to test Faria's AKU 3.3 Rom and see what happens there. 3.3 is i believe the last AKU before WM6, perhaps a DLL or 2 could be snagged from there and cooked into a WM6 ROM, does anyone know what DLL/EXE is in charge of the radio/GPRS?

I think I can "Cook" a fix for this!!!

Edit Again Again:

I just tried Faria's AKU 3.3 rom with the 2.61 radio and BAM no problem turing off and on radio and getting the data back.

WHAT DLLs and or EXEs control the radio? I think a swap of those files will fix WM6!!!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] alexn2:
New problem with 2.61/ Faria Crossbow and Cingular

I have a problems that first occured with the 2.25 radio and a Faria ROM. I call a number and the cannot disconnect until the other party disconnects. For example I call voice mail and cannot key any buttons to delay messages as well as I call a number and get their voicemail and cannot disconnect until the cut the call.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] DUlrich1227:
same thing happened to me today after installing new ROM i am using the 2.47.11 radio i just downloaded the 2.6.. we will see what happens

ROMVER:2.18.0.0 WWE

ROM date 2/14/06

Radio Version :02.47.11

Protocol Version 4.1.13.24

ExtROM version fariav5.0