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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Chuck_IV:
Only a couple things that bother me because of lack of root, not being able to use Titanium and not being able to replace the God awful current version of Google Maps with version 6. The latter was remedied with the discovery of Waze so for now I am good on that front.

Other than that, nope, I LOVE the Note 4 and am good to go for a while.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] vmod32:
I have not even used mine much yet. I got it on launch day, but with no root it's just collecting dust right now.

I'm still on my Note 3 with Jasmine rom most of the time. I'm starting to seriously think of selling off my Note 4 and getting the dev edition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] timmyd463229:
I want the lg g3 also but I hear the battery won't get a full day idk if I would like that at all.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcforreal:
Coming from a previous g3 owner don't do it, g3 is a good phone but I'm telling you you'll miss your note.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] timmyd463229:
I don't have the note yet but am considering it. Well I have the note 2 and am looking for something that will make me not miss my rooted note 2.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcforreal:
Well if you're really into custom roms which the note 4 obviously doesn't have then you may have a problem. But i had the g3.. The screen just wasn't up to par, extremely poor brightness (try using it in a well lit room or worst outside) the lag caused by the thermal throttling to keep the display from overheating the phone, it may sound like I'm bashing the g3 I'm not but it's just note good as the note in my opinion. It does have root though so Hey that might be the better choice for you.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] masri1987:
Are there any even dev units available??
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jolly_roger_hook:
No and they way they limit them I doubt there will be any more when the note 3 dev got back ordered like the note 4 one is now it never came back
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] usmaak:
Aren't you afraid that you'll open it and it will end up being defective? After 14 days, you're stuck with it. I already had to return one defective phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] b00st4ddicted:
By still having unlimited data makes me want root really badly, but I am sure it will be here sooner or later. One thing I do have a thing about is the home button. Call me OCD, but man... it feels like I am double clicking all the time when I am pressing it. Anyone else having the same problem?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
should have gone with Note 4 Developer Edition. Just got my, it was super easy to root.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ProjectGSX:
I regret my purchase. My Note 4 is noticeably slower performance-wise than my Nexus 5 was. Not to mention Im stuck a rev back on firmware.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] up8000:
Can you please tell me your how you got your wifi tether hack? Thanks so much!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
EMSpilot has a nice thread with all kinds of goodies

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/general/verizon-note-4-dev-phone-remove-cd-t2924708
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] up8000:
I searched a lot for this hack and this thread is perfect. I get my DE note 4 tomorrow, thanks again!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] phibo:
Argh... I so wanted to get that DE because of your comment. I wanted so bad that I posted my retail on swappa and Craigslist. But I had to pull it off because I can't justify dropping another $250 for root and unlock bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrgigabyte2002:
Not at all
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
I hear you, I justified my DE with the $200 trade-in I got from an old LG G2 (worth $12) during the pre-order promotion. I also sold the Retail Note 4 the day after I got the DE for $500. The DE not cheap, but now that I'm completely satisfied with the Note 4, I have no desire to upgrade to anything else, like the S6 or M9 or what ever is next. So I guess that'll "save" me money too.

I suppose I could have lived without root, but it's so much nicer having complete control of my phone and go ad free, especially on youtube.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Forgetfull:
Major regrets for this phone. 99% of it revolves around lack of root. Wish I would have went a different direction. Couldn't affort the 700$ for a developer addition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
the phone is about as perfect as you can get with root!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] phibo:
Just for curiosity. What is that different direction? Even without root, I still happy because I came from an ancient RAZR maxx.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
Another gripe that I had before was the lag with the multitasking button. with Root and freezing the bloatware apps, the multitask button lag is gone. Ididn't specifically go fixing it, but it's now super quick. on my old retail, there was a long lag before anything would happen.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Matttrix:
I had a retail note 4 about a week but it was defective and I used my note 2, till i got my note 4 DE and have no regrets now. Its all set how I like it and whats funny im still not sure if im going to upgrade to lollipop if a rom comes out as im happy the way rhings are.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mlin:
Do you have 2 DE's?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Yessir why? Lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] PeterifficX:
For some reason my Note 4 isn't getting great reception where my S4 was.

Wonder why

Edit: After some digging, it looks like XLTE is the culprit. *sigh

Never took an update on the S4 to receive XLTE so I was getting good signal indoors.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] phibo:
Alright just sold my retail and put in my order for a no regret with next day pm delivery. Oh...ye....ah.... BTW I'm going miss that clean white look..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
LOL, I knew you would buy a DE eventually.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] phibo:
Lol.. what can I say the math worked out. Spend 230 for retail. Sold it for 550. Got a 100 gift card for trading in my thunderbolt. [emoji13]
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] kevman8396:
Not to mention that the Full brightness setting on the G3 is like the 40% brightness setting on the Note 4. So the LG G3 has an awesome screen but if you turn the brightness up to enjoy it, the battery dies very quickly.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] countryg1rl:
We have ordered Note Edge from sprint. Once that comes in. Verizon has loss their loyal customer for years.

I love the Note 4, I just wish VZW just stop being greedy.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] edutech2015:
I did't get it.........
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidxxxxx:
I'm definitely digging it. I took back the note edge and swapped it out for this one and I am much happier. The edge was cool but it was kind of strange to get used to. Hopefully this will see root in the next year or so. Honestly it runs really good otherwise I don't really need it except just to experiment once the warranty runs out lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] *Hooligan*:
I've had mine since Nov. Still no regrets!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Rockwell22:
Ok, my only regret is that I can't root , no one here's fault just waiting for HTCs new phones I'm done with Samsung , it's been great but time for a change
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] TonyM77:
No regrets at all, having it for 3 months now. But i have to say, it was a 'no go' if i could not root...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Ebicoustic:
I am conflicted about whether or not I regret it. Having no root is driving me crazy but I do love this phone. The size, screen, VR headset, it's got a lot of good things but I've never had a phone that wasn't rooted and it's driving me crazy.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] outcasted2003:
I have no regrets. I like this phone. Vast improvement over the reliable GS3 that I had. I just froze programs that I could and use Nova Pro to customize the setup the way I like it till root comes along. I have no lag what so ever & this thing seems very fast to me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rzlybb:
I do regret...

Bought SM-N910V:

Phone signal is weaker than my old Galaxy S4 "same carrier".

Cell Design 8/10.

The way the hands hurt because of grabbing the phone and it edges sucks :/.

Bought the gold one and looked so cheap material, changed it to black looks better.

Fingerprint is a f***king nightmare, can't read, too slow, too fast blah blah blah.

Will sell it and get a Galaxy S6 when it comes out and IF I like it.

Screen quality in sunny weather worst ever :/.

Sorry about my typos "From México ".
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Doogie1:
That's weird, I can say that the reception on the the Note has been better than my two previous phones.. HTC M8 & LG G3.. I also use the fingerprint scanner as my secure lock screen, and it works as it should. The S5, now that had a horrendous fingerprint scanner.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] thebehemoth73:
Unlimited 4g LTE through metro PCS .. May cell my lg g2 for a note 4 but not sure.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mikeius89:
I actually like the note 4 and is also my first Sammy. I come from HTC and nexus devices so I'm pained a bit from no root but not gonna complain. I think it's good.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rzlybb:
How is the service coverage and speed? And what city are you from?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] technoman14:
those are great questions
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] AtariDroid:
My only regret is switching before there is root. This white everything is driving me ****ing crazy. Other than that, maybe the lag with the multitasking button. Oh, and the glass screen protector problem. I hate PET protectors because they don't last long and feel draggy. So now I'm carrying my N4 around like it is a delicate paper or something. I'm too good at scratching screens.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] K-alz:
Just wondering, does getting the developer edition note 4 require some special qualifications? Is it hard to get or is it available in the retail like the other one?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
They used to have a questionnaire to filter out non techy's. But now it's click, buy. This is the 1st Developer where they are stocking more than 20 at a time. Other DE's like Note-3 and S5 they released less than 100 total units over a six month period.

Right now, you can buy one. Just pony up $699 +

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910VMKEVZW
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] K-alz:
So from what I understand, anyone on here can buy it? Then why the headache and buying the regular one? I wish we had that on the AT&T side.

I'm actually thinking for saving up for one then just sim unlock it and run it on my AT&T plan.

from my Allianced N3.

Remember! if your Alliance manager FCs, just delete the "Alliance" folder in your SDcard then re-open the Alliance manager app.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] BladeRunner:
If one is paying full price then the development edition would be the way to go. The majority of people buy at the subsidized price though so the consumer edition through vzw is the only option.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] K-alz:
Oh! So the dev edition is only available in full retail price? You can't get it through that edge/jump or whatever plan? Or even a contract? Man that sucks.

From my Allianced S5!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] BladeRunner:
Yes, full price only, but I thinks it $50 cheaper than full retail for a consumer ed. through Verizon.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
even with Edge/Jump, you're still paying the full price, just in payments.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] K-alz:
Crap. What would a $50 do for a person?

Well, I know that, but at least not the whole amount at once. Also, from what I know (since I got the next plan with AT&T ) you can bring the phone back after a couple of payments and get another one if a new phone came out and you wanted it. So let's say you have paid $75 in three months, just bring your current phone and get a new one and start over but you'll lose those $75 which is fine with me. But can't keep be with them anymore because of the locked bootloader. Paying this one off and jumping to either tmobile or sprint. Or just save for a tmobile phone and run on my att network.

From my Allianced S5!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shawnten:
i regret the purchase so much i am using my lg g3 again. i didnt know how much i liked root. i turned it on today and was gonna reactivate it for a day or so and i just cant do it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] guthrien:
I'm really missing root. So many little quirks that could be improved and offer a better overall phone. However the screen and camera remain heads and shoulders above the alternatives so I soldier on.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nrage23:
I went from the G3 to the Turbo, and then the Note 4. I sold the G3 and have to force myself to use the Turbo. The Note is the best of the 3 but I would have to say I like the G3 better than the Turbo. The G3 was an excellent phone. It would be nice to have root but I do not miss it as much as I thought I would.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Dennelly:
So far I have no regrets with this device and I've had it two days. I knew before purchasing the device that it would not have root and proably won't for quite a long time being as though it's a Verizon Samsung device and well......we know how that goes
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] :
I went from the S5 to the Turbo and then to the Note 4 on 2 lines over here. I would have to say the Note 4 is the best of the beasts even without root. The battery life and screen are what really drew me to the Note 4. If I had the cash on hand I would get the Dev edition but in all reality the retail is just fine for me. Plus it gives me something to mess with to try and get root.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] starbuckk:
Dev edition has a 30 day warranty. Not much comfort when dropping 700 bucks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] arjun90:
I just spat out my Yogurt when I read this. Seriously?! 30-day warranty?! That's insane! Please tell me this is not correct :eek:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] starbuckk:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/service/warranty/SM-N910VMKEVZW

30 days or until the device is altered. Whichever comes first.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] arjun90:
Wow, I was so close on ordering one during the Holiday Season last year. Samsung better get their act together. Absurd how they handle warranty compared to their competitor, Apple.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] miryclay:
Not necessarily... We are talking about computer devices... Wherever there is a will there is a way... The game just gets harder, and the bounties just get bigger...

I understand that the bootloader may get locked, but eventually there will be an exploit, someone will find a way, someone always does...

But still there's always an exploit waiting to be done. There is absolutely nothing impervious to hacking, developing, or exploiting. You can make a completely sealed basketball, but nothing stops the drug cartels from finding out how to get drugs inside of it... to the same retrospect, I know for a fact it's just a matter of time before someone finds a vulnerability.

Additionally I just want to mention that sometimes a clue is given with the release of new "updates"... sometimes you'll see notes such as... we patched "x" vulnerability... which is a dead giveaway that some vulnerability exists, which gives a tip-off that there is a vulnerability in an older version, which means you just don't take the update, and then penetrate... Most of the time the updates are vulnerability patches anyways... which means there are in fact vulnerabilities... With computers and computer devices... there will never be such thing as 100% proof... there will always be reverse engineering, and always be some sort of penetration testing that reveals flaws.

Just a bit of encouragement...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Doogie1:
I don't really regret getting my Note 4. I had the turbo for a week, I did regret that.. Exchanged it for the Note 4. After having the Note 3 when it came out, I had it rooted within hours of getting home, which was a beast in it's own right. As people have mentioned, it's just become harder with newer iterations. On Tuesday, I used my sisters upgrade from At&t and got a Nexus 6. After getting it unlocked yesterday, I put in my sim from the Note 4 (After cutting it). I'm not going to get rid of my Note 4, I still have hope for root. I'm just going to set it aside for now. To be honest though, the way I would describe the Nexus 6 is.. Fluid, very smooth, insanely quick. Now personally, It can't replace my Note, if we had root. But, there is something about the Nexus 6 that makes you not want to put it down.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hacksaw999:
In my case the warranty lasted about 30 minutes.

It usually doesn't take that long to root, but I was in the middle of cooking when it was delivered. :)

Still no regrets. This is definitely the best phone I've ever had. Heck, it's the best phone I've ever seen.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mlin:
While I appreciate your optimism, I tend to side with reality when world renowned developers like Chainfire make statements regarding the very strong likelihood that root will not be achieved without an unlocked bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pegb856:
I had two G3s before returning and picking up the Note 4. I am regretting the note upgrade, it's a nice device but the G3 was more pocketable and I just liked it better. My first G3 was buggy, camera was not up to par, software freeze ups, etc. The second one was great but the "grass is greener" syndrome got me so I traded to the Note 4. I still have some time left with Bestbuy to swap but I feel bad about swapping so much and am now regretting getting it. Not quite sure what to do, I picked it up on the edge program. For what it's worth neither of the G3 cameras was nearly as good as the note's but it was decent, low light was it's downfall.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mwebb34:
I still have my g3 I will probably sell it,because about a week ago I bought a nexus 6 factory unlocked, and I love it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] roy.carter.7:
Have anyone seen this... http://phandroid.com/2015/02/11/unlock-cellphone-legal/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
Only thing I regret is not getting a Nexus 6...love my DE Note 4 (its a better phone in every way..almost) but I'm a flashaholic and I'm getting itchy...not that the few, awesome devs working on the DE are to blame..they're not..there's just not too many people that have it..now if the retail had root/& or an unlocked bootloader I'd have many more options... but they don't so I'm selling it...Nexus I'm coming home!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] joeyac02:
Im doing the same thing!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
Before you go have you tried Mod57's port of Beanstalk 5.0? Its for our DE's and I'm using Zion's latest Ultimate kernel.. pretty awesome combo. 2/3 is best build for ROM and latest Zion's Ultimate... Damn good battery too...way better than my tmo note 3 on cm.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skynet11:
That does not refer to bootloader unlock. That refers to sim unlock.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] yearn2burn:
Link? I don't see it in note 4 development.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
No link...its in General section under Developer phone unofficial CM12...its a few pages in...there ain't many pages..there's like maybe 10 of us running it. But again look for build on 2-3-15
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] 4NDROID4LIFE:
Crazy over 3 months and still no root. I know the ZTE ZMAX for T-Mobile and Metro PCS has been out longer and still has no root or an unlockable bootloader. I wonder if the Galaxy S6 on AT&T & Verizon are going to be tough like this. I know that we are a very small portion of people that like to mod our phones. Would you guys take the lollipop update knowing that it would make root impossible?

Sent from my D850 T-Mobile SIM
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nrage23:
Verizon LTE phones are sim unlocked anyway. They just have most of the other carries LTE bands disabled on their phones.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] miryclay:
I've had luck with GSM Sims on Verizon phones... But that's about it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Izbsleepy:
Last I heard there was a 5 thousand dollar Bounty for root on this device. Do you guys really think it might not get root? All these people who keep doubting it will happen on this thread has got me a little worried now.

I would definitely be disappointed with my move to Verizon if this phone doesn't get root. This is my first phone with Verizon. I knew they were jerks when it came to rooting any of the devices on their network.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] le0.br4zuc4:
Not really. I love this phone and its features. Off course I miss root and I'm sure with time we Wil get it, root will help our amazing phone simply be perfect.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] lazer9:
I regret not having root. Simple as that. I could go on to list the programs along with paid ones such as Titanium Backup that I am missing out on.

With that said. I'm not giving up. I have pledged my donation in the "Bounty" thread. I have faith in the devs that lurk these boards. We just have to have patience. I know, it's hard.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mlin:
Maybe Geohot will take interest if the bounty gets high enough. Seems if this phone gets rooted, it may be the last VZW/Samsung phone to get root as once Lollipop is released, its game over.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Rootuser3.0:
The phone is solid either way with or without root. As long as I can tether I'm fine
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bossei:
Other than root nope. Love the phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] MatroxD:
I thought heavily about it not having root, coming from the 3,but honestly, worth the exception of the xposed, I really don't mind. Lol, for me, the threads on the 3 got a little stale, even just to read with the begging, admonishment galore, developer squabbles, yada, yada.. I mean really, just for a rom, not that deep. And the crazy thing is "every rom" had some kind of even little miniscule quark. So to get huffy about them is a bit lame.. At least for me now. I very rarely even post to be honest, and I'm sure someone will say, that's a good thing, but whatever.. Lol..

But with the exception of a few things(like removing apps, etc), I'm in love with this phone and it's working great for me. Yes, I would like them to root, but if they don't, it's really no big deal in the grand scope of life.

Sent from Note 4 on Tapatalk
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bossei:
I feel you for me having the freedom to remove apps using software like Xposed Is the what makes Android great. I really want my free Hotspot back LOL
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mlin:
You can disable system apps if you like, without root. Once the N4 gets Android L, app and data backup will be built into the OS so apps like Titanium Backup will be less of a necessity (b/c TB is an absolute necessity for me, I like to take all my apps, data, texts, etc to my new phone when I get one).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] MatroxD:
Some you can and some you can't. I uninstalled most, but I have this annoying " Verizon support and protection", yuck! Lol.. I'm not able to uninstall that pita. Lol.. And it keeps prompting updated in the play store. Things like that, yes, it's like to be able to uninstall..

Sent from Note 4 on Tapatalk
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mlin:
Oh, didn't realize that. I don't have the phone. I'm using the HTC One M8 currently, as I know I'm not ready to not have root. If/when the Note 4 gets root, I'll certainly pick one up. Hopefully I can find one for ~$400 around that time, as it seems it could be awhile.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] masri1987:
I'm thinking on falling back on my G2 or M8 , as it has become somewhat unbearable without root.. finding myself needing a lot of things i used to use on root.

If i order the dev edition N4 , will it ever get shipped?