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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] vmod32:
I opened it as soon as it came in the mail. I've messed around with it here and there, but have not made it my daily driver just yet. I actually have been using it the past few days, but I can't stand all the Samsung crap on this thing. Every freaking 2 minutes it's got another alert/update about something I could care less about. I've disabled as much as I could but without root I can't do much more.

Once this things gets cleaned up and debloated it will be sooo much better.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tu3218:
I was able to disable that on my note 4 with the rest of the bloat.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] MatroxD:
Hmmnn.. Maybe it's just my goofy model. Every one has its thing

Sent from Note 4 on Tapatalk
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tu3218:
What model do you have? I have the retail Verizon Note 4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] donroja:
The battery is great pretty flippin good on the g3. Yesterday I got 4:45 so, almost 15 hours and still had 13% battery left... I have the note 4 as well, but I haven't put the the sim card once due to lack of root. The g3 development had taken off in recent days as well. I really like the form factor, buttons on the back, root/bump, tweakbox, etc. The list goes on, but I guess what I'm trying to say is that the g3 is a super underrated device. I love the thing now and I don't know that I would keep the note 4 even if root was achieved.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] XTRoRDiNAiRE:
I completely regret buying this laggy ass phone.. They can put the biggest processors in the world and this **** will still be laggy

Very disappointed! Keep trying to give Samsung an opportunity to make a smooth response ui but it just sux
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] MatroxD:
That's what i have also..

Sent from Note 4 on Tapatalk
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tu3218:
That's really odd. Sure you're not using the app somehow? Try clearing data than disable.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] timmyd463229:
Yeah I'm going to get the lg g3 because of root and its the same size screen as my note 2 but smaller body which is great. And I have been looking at the threads and there are lots of roms now and I'm sure soon android L Roms also and I'm afraid that everything else except maybe the nexus 6 will be locked down so g3 it is
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Magicman500:
Got the Note 4 on Monday. Coming from an S3 that I bought specifically to root and flash a custom ROM. The stress and heartache alone are enough to make me rethink rooting and custom ROMs. That isn't even getting into the instability rooting and custom ROMs introduce. I got the Note 4 because I wanted a fast, stable phone with lots of nice features. Are there things I wish I could root and change? Sure. The classic TouchWiz status bar clutter is my main problem, but they're mostly small things.

One thing I have noticed is that my battery doesn't seem to be getting the life everyone boasts, though that's probably my fault. It doesn't really matter, the fast charging makes it a non-issue.

Also, tempered glass screen protectors are amazing!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Mmmjj123:
I regret considering all of this talk of no root. I cannot remember the last time i had an unrooted device. But im not returning the device. Jus gotta deal i suppose.

Sent from my Note 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
I concur. Was a G2 owner, returned the mess of a G3 back after getting 3 with terrible battery life. Loving my Note 4 DE.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] masri1987:
Wish I can find a dev edition!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] donroja:
You'll be very happy... Nova + Tweakbox + UDN pro + force immersive = great!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] cdmoore74:
I'm extremely happy with my Note 4 and I haven't even used the Gear VR yet. The only competition is the Nexus 6 but it's just a Moto XL with unlockable boot loader. And it doesn't match the display, battery life, camera, ir blaster or just the features the Note has.

Sure there is room for improvement but once you put all the cards on the table the Note is the best out the box.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidstyle:
Denial...in it's finest form. :)

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On Samsungs website when in stock for around 700.00.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] timmyd463229:
Out of all that I only know of tweakbox and nova
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] masri1987:
When in Stock..

That's the problem.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tim242:
FoxFi works great!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jmacdonald19:
No regrets at all. Missing some apps that require root, but not enough to regret my Note 4 purchase.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
As the new phone joy is slowly fading, the lack of root frustration is increasing. Damn you Samsung. I got $700 sitting here, why the **** can't you stock the developer editions. :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Delakit:
I finally said the hell with waiting and picked up the N4. I wanted to Dev Edition but was sick of waiting. I also wanted to gold version but was sick of waiting. Those will be my only regrets, not waiting for what I really wanted after waiting for the initial phone release in the first place. Neither Verizon nor Samsung impress me in any way, shape, or form in terms of sales tactics and production.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] timmyd463229:
Yeah that's why I'm getting the lg g3 because I didn't want to have the phone for the next 2 years without root. Even though the note 4 is probably the best phone out.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
I'm one of the lucky few who was able to get a Developer Edition and, coming from a rooted Note 3, I have absolutely no regrets. Although the new button configuration took a little getting used to, my Note 4, which is rooted and tweaked with Xposed and inverted apps, is superior to the Note 3 in every way. I was at an event on Saturday and took a video of an a acappela group doing the modified rendition of John Williams Star Wars theme (the one with "Kiss a Wookie, Kick a Droid") and the picture and sound quality were excellent. I was pleasantly surprised with the richness of the sound in the recording. This is by far the best device I've had.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidstyle:
That will always be the problem...nothing new there.

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That only regret you may have is when Lolipop drops and your DE is still stuck on KitKat. Perhaps CM will pick up support for the DE N4, because I doubt you will see the Touchwiz version(fingers crossed). Part of the reason why I am holding off on the N4. I guess we can agree to disagree about the N4 being far superior...I am not seeing it from the few I have checked out in the stores.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] sprintuser1977:
At first, I hated that they changed the left menu button.

Now I have grown to actually like it better.

leaves my only regret being cornered into getting a Lockzilla , | mean Verizon version.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] :
This is the first time I've ever owned a Note and I have no regrets... the more I use this device, the more I love it !!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tbcpn:
My rooted, TiBu-Frozen-debloated G3 has amazing battery management--better than my rooted/debloated Note 3, and much better than my S4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] timmyd463229:
That's what I'm going to do when I get it sunday
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] LagunaTechie:
I regretted my buy about a week after I received it. It is just too limited without root. I cannot believe that a phone with this much power should be laggy as it was for me at times. It's not the phone's fault, it is just crappy Touchwiz. I returned by phone to verizon 13 days after I got it and now I have a back-order placed for the Developer Edition.

Root is a necessity for this device. At least being able to load on another launcher and killing "Touchwiz home" should dramatically increase performance. Also increasing the DPI for a phone with this type of screen would be wonderful. While an unlocked bootloader would be nice, its more for play than for real necessity in my opinion. I have waited almost a month now since returned the retail, as I am waiting for the Dev edition. I still think it is worth it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] junjlo:
Unfortunately I regret getting note 4 it is a good phone but I may need to start buying developer edition phones here on out
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] HuskerWebhead:
I'm torn. I have the LG G3 but several people at my work recently got the Note 4 and I'm really liking the S Pen, camera, and a few other features. I'm just not a huge fan of TouchWiz, so I was hoping there was a root method so I could scrap that crap. Even so, I'm still contemplating moving to a Note 4. Might even be willing to do a trade. My LG G3 is rooted, bumped, and has a wireless charging back. Decisions decisions.....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
i cant stand my g3 anymore
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] HuskerWebhead:
With a new ROM, G3 Tweakbox, and Android Tweaker running, I enjoy my G3. It's certainly a solid phone. I'm just a big geek that always wants the newest toys. :D But I digress, this isn't a G3 thread and I don't want to derail any further.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
Me either, that's why I sold it and got the N4. Stock N4 (as debloated as possible) is much smoother and faster than my G3 running Cloudy.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
I need a dev ed note 4

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yeah me too just disappointing. i told a friend of mine earlier the G3 is a solid daily phone like my daily cavalier just there always ready to go and reliable. but the note 4 is like a monster like my mustang that is just ready to rip at every opportunity it gets!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tu3218:
I had the g3 before my note 4. Both great phones but note 4 definitely better screen, and the battery life on the note 4 destroys the g3. I can go 48 hours with my note 4 without charging. I was luckyyy to go 24 with my g3. G3 is better in hand though.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] sprintuser1977:
l have to go see this G3 in person. No way I would get rid of my Note but I have not heard so much good stuff said or written about a phone in years.

looks good in the commercials.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] emtownsend:
No regrets, but one disappointment and that is in the Bluetooth. It does not work properly for audio streaming, nor for auto connecting to resources like my car stereo. As we've seen in the threads, it doesn't send song data updates, and it disconnects/reconnects my Gear 2 on occasion throughout the day. Otherwise, it's one sweet phone!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tu3218:
Bluetooth streaming audio works perfect in my car, to my Bose speaker, and to my Moto bluetooth headphones.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] agentxavier:
Yes.

1) I wish there was a front facing speaker.

2) I miss stock android. I wish Samsung would just add apps onto of stock instead of this bloated touchwiz.

3) Root.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
My Note 4 streams fine to my car's stereo. I will say that the track into doesn't show up on my car stereo, but I can't say which is to blame for that.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Delakit:
I'm on my 2nd Note 4 already... I'm not impressed. In fact, I'm really pissed off and will be exchanging it once more tomorrow, or returning it all together. Wavy screen, screen raised more at the top right than the left, backing makes noise when touched as if it's loose, S-Pen barely works, and using pattern unlock is a hell of a lot more effort than it should be. Disgusting.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] RKight:
So far, I love this phone. At this point, I'm not that upset about not having root, other than I would really love to be able to use AdAway. Honestly, my only regret so far is that, after using my Note 4 for a little over a week, the screen on my 5th-gen iPod Touch looks horrible. It looks tiny and pixelated in comparison. I didn't even get that when I had my LG G2, and I thought it had a beautiful display.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mlin:
So I picked up an N4 last night. Found a deal too too to pass up. I'm using it now, coming from a dual booting M8 running sense/gpe lollipop and I am no stranger to rooting and roming. That said, I like this phone. Getting apps and MMS restored took a few tries and a few programs but eventually worked. I don't think I'll miss root much and it may be nice to have a phone that I can't tweak and ROM all the time. We'll see...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mademan420:
Welcome aboard!!!:p
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tu3218:
Wavy screen? wtf does that even mean. screen raised more on one side? back making noise? seriously with all your points, just go back to your iphone or whatever you were using. Those are some petty, ridiculous claims.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] guthrien:
Some people just get bad devices. It stinks when it happens, trust me. I can't believe this screen though, as someone who handles a lot of mobile screens these days, when I come back to my Note 4 (my primary phone), I'm still awed a month in. It's the most beautiful slab of glass I've ever seen. I continue to wish for root exploits, but the phone is a beast, I've tried nothing that makes me feel real regret at this point. I don't think that device exists yet.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mcdonsco:
Actually the screen being higher on one end then the other i can attest to as well...doesnt both me, other than knowing it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Benjamin150:
Same situation here! Lg G3 was nice, but the only thing I miss from it was it's knock on feature.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] sTl2yk3l2:
No root is killing me. Every android phone i have owned prior to this on verizon had root the day I got the phone. They were all moto devices. I wanted something different so I got a note 4. It's a great phone but sick of verizon locking android down. I am just going to get an iphone 6 since I can jailbreak it and make it as good or not better then this phone at this point in time. I will pay full retail for it. I will keep the note 4 but doubt it will get much use. I wish tmobile had better building penatration because I tried it out for a few days and the signal was better then verizon, but as soon as i went inside I had no signal or Internet period. Bump that. So i got a note 4 on verizon. In reality this phone works fine with no root, but I am a flashing junkie and need my fix!! Sure I can still flash roms on my older devices and nexus tablet, but I want more. I want to flash stuff on this device.!!!!! I should just go back to a dumb phone and save money and time.

.=(.stryker.originals.)=.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Zekial:
I regret not buying one sooner xD
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] starbuckk:
Why not get the developer edition? It is apparently stock Android and wide open. I considered it myself but didn't care for the short warranty period and I'm not a big fan of rooting. Only rooted my last phone to get control over GPS and SD cards.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] sTl2yk3l2:
I thought about it. But might as well have a new Android and apple device. Best of both worlds. I really don't want to spend $700 bucks on a new device when I just got one just to toss on a few tweaks. Prior to the note 4 I had no idea android disabled writing to the SD card. I have been on a custom rom since day 1 of my last device. It was ruining 4.4, but since it was a rom writing to sd was enabled. No being able to save to a SD card is crazy!!! I love Android have had it since I first got a smart phone. But i should of went to the other side. If I wouldn't have icon packs on the play store I would of got a diff device. Its hard choosing a phone cause your stuck with your choice for a few years unless you have a ton of money to blow all the time. I guess you have to pay to play right? I do love this phone though root or not. I guess as long as I can switch launchers, that's good enough for me 4 now.

.=(.stryker.originals.)=.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ieAnd:
I'm starting to. It's a phenomenal phone, but I've never had an Android device I wasn't able to root before. I miss Xposed and all my tweaks like hell.

EDIT: Also, dat lock screen clock doh. It's hideous. No way to change it (from what I've searched and found) either. I don't know what to do, it bugs me so much
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mlin:
No regrets. The more time I've spent with the phone, the more I've realized that most of the things I did with root were kind of silly and unnecessary. I really miss the on screen keys, but even then I'm adjusting to not having em. My other major use was titanium backup but helium and soon Android 5.0 will fill that niche.

My wife wants an N4 now and I had an opportunity to buy a developer edition and give her mine but I passed. Just didn't seem worth it, especially considering the lack of updates. The whole program is kinda silly.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] countryg1rl:
I like it better than Note 3. I got rid of Not 3 for S5. My hubby begged me to get Note 4 with him. I love it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jolly_roger_hook:
Regret it a lil mostly because no SD card writing and no blacked out apps to save battery besides that I love will be getting a nexus 6 as well to curve the apatite of waiting to flash stuff
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
even though i need root, i don't regret a thing. i don't even regret NOT getting the dev edition. this phone is too awesome unrooted that i don't even care. my G2 was modded with custom rom, custom camera software, custom kernels, xposed etc and yeah it was great, but damn this phone is just so much better lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] soraxd:
I regret it. no root. switched back to my see for functionality.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] timmyd463229:
So far the only things I miss are YouTube ad blocker and greenify
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] kimdoocheol:
Doesn't OGYouTube have a built in adblocker?

Does Greenify require root? I thought there is a lot of non-root functionality with greenify, IIRC.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] timmyd463229:
It would only let me stop like a couple apps but when you have root you can stop any app. And my YouTube still has ads
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] kimdoocheol:
In ogyoutube?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] timmyd463229:
What's ogyoutube?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] kimdoocheol:
It is the old version of YouTube that gives you options to download stuff to mp3, hd video, etc. Must have app. Google it, it is on xda and allow unknown sources to install. I don't recall seeing ads on ogyoutube, but could have been an xposed module I has too.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] elidog1:
Only regret is touchwiz. The lag I get some times is pretty aggrevating. A phone this powerful shouldn't have the lag this thing has.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] kimdoocheol:
Does it still lag in Nova and apex? Sorry, haven't opened mine yet. Still debating between this and the nexus 6
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mlin:
I agree, it's a little surprising actually. I played with my M8 today and that thing is buttery smooth. Just about everything was faster/more responsive just from my subjective impression.

I like the N4, wish I could edit the build.prop to enable the soft keys but what can you do. The camera, s-pen, and screen make it hard to regret my purchase.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] RKight:
I'm not really sure what lag people are talking about. I've been using Android devices since the original Galaxy S. Out of all the phones and tablets I've owned, I've really only seen any noticeable stutter on the HTC Rezound I had. This phone has been perfectly smooth for me and I'm actually (surprisingly!) happy with TouchWiz. I hated it on my Captivate (AT&T Galaxy S) but I'm fairly impressed with the way it's evolved over the past few years.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] kimdoocheol:
Bringing up recents there is slight lag.

On my friends phone too when scrolling fast or doing something you'll get a random slow down in the animation. Not very bad but noticeable
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] elidog1:
Unfortunately yes. I'm running Nova and it still laggy. Mainly when going from one app to another. It will just hang there as if it has damn idea what it's going to do next.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nnnnr14:
I agree with most people, the system only SD writing thing and not being rooted so therefore no good ad blockers... Is killing me the ads in games and just everyday apps in general is killing me and also a huge waste of data for the ads to be 30 second HD videos.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] BigggJack:
I dont miss root as much as I thought I might moving from the Note 2 to the Note 4. The only real regret I have is not waiting for the EDGE, a co-worker has one and the sidebar is a bunch more functional then I thought it would be
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Sakete:
So how come everyone believes root will not be achieved on the Note 4? Wasn't the Verizon S5 locked down at first too and then eventually they found a way to crack it and have root?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] m0j0j0j0:
Not everyone believes this. With code there is always a chance. Yet there is even more enhanced security on the n4. There is certainly a chance it will be rooted. . I've been rooting phones for many many moons and is usually the first thing I do to a phone. I regret not getting the m8 when I had the chance. Would have loved to keep my s4 rooted I think it was a better phone. . It usually takes a lot for me to even want a new phone once I get one setup how I like it. Now once I get the opportunity to upgrade at an affordable cost I probably will. (Unless of course we get root) then I'll probably love this phone with a custom kernel / debloated rom amongst countless other enhancements
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
dont count on root. i dont see much of a chance for it
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] kimdoocheol:
Chainfires methods require an unlocked bootloader. Very slim chance there will be an unlocked bootloader unless files are leaked on samsungs end
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] airmaxx23:
My current regret is not just getting a Developer Edition right from the get go, now I have to try to sell my Retail version once the DE gets here Tuesday.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Sakete:
But wasn't the GS5 bootloader locked as well and then they managed to crack it? So wouldn't that mean that eventually down the road, the Note 4 would get cracked too? It's fairly new on the market anyway.

I'm currently deciding between getting a GS5 or Note 4 from Verizon to use on Page Plus cellular (a Verizon MVNO, significantly cheaper than a regular Verizon subscription, but still Verizon coverage and 4G LTE). I think for the time being I could live without root, but eventually I'd want to root it to be able to tweak certain things a bit more and for XPrivacy. I would however probably never install a non-Samsung custom ROM, as that would defeat the purpose of getting a Note 4 that has the pen.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] kimdoocheol:
I think this more applies to lollipop with added security. I'm not positive, but this is what I remember.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
I was looking at the nexus 6, but a few things helped me choose the note 4 for my daily driver:

VZW Visual Voice mail, I like it especially since it now comes with voice to text. I always missed VVM while running ASOP roms.

I like the new sensors and S-Health; Heart rate, blood O2, and Pedometer

An external SD card is very useful, I bought a Lexar 64GB SDXC UHS-I with USB 3.0 reader, Blazing fast, put 6GB of music on it in a few minutes. No messing with clouds for me.

Removable battery, fast charge mode.

Boost mode combines Data and wireless on big downloads. Attached is pictures of speed compared between Note-3 wireless, and Note-4 w/boost both data and wireless combined :)

Nope, I have no regrets!