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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
This may be the wrong thread for this do I apologize in advance. If motorola isn't giving bootloader unlock codes but they do exist doesn't it make sense to just attempt to attack this? If you could find your unlock code doesn't that solve or problem?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
Won't solve our problem at all with unlocking because only Motorola has the codes for each individual phone and of course they won't release to a new phone.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
That's what I mean is there no way to write a crack to get us those codes?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joshm.1219:
You would have to brute force guess, and you would need a quantum supercomputer to do it in a realistic time frame.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cstone1991:
Well if that's all it'll take I suppose I could boot up my second one and share it for the cause ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
What's considered realistic I could wait a few weeks dedicating a computer or two to it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dmbtech:
It won't be long before the bounty exceded the cost of a quantom supercomputer :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gqskrub:
$25 for root.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] beaups:
$100 root, $200 bootloader unlock.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Gundabolu SC:
Guess you are either on to something or completely gave up on it? :P :D
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bfromcali:
Yup.

:agree:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] matheus_sc:
So bount is very high now, no devs are trying???
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
No one knows. But there is one thing for certain, there could very well be a dev working on this quietly. If I personally was working on this I wouldn't say a thing until I **** my pants from successfully rooting or unlocking the boot loader with my own research and knowledge.

Sent from my XT1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] m4rk0358:
There are dozens of developers working on this. They're posting hourly progress updates on reddit.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
I do not know what drives some developers more, the idea of the prize or the idea of being the one. whoever cracks the turbo will have some pretty nice bragging rights.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Where on reddit can we see updates on the progress of Droid Turbo unlock or root? I would love to follow that.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
I second the request for that thread
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lafont28:
I have been looking and haven't seen anything on reddit. Mind giving a link to one of the threads you're talking about, I'd love to follow as well.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] an21281:
I think this was just sarcasm, but I could be wrong...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
No, I think 3 people genuinely need a link for this reddit thread..mm

Sent from my XT1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] an21281:
Haha, this would probably be one time I wouldn't mind being wrong so make that 4!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
I think he is referring to the post about the reddit thread in the first place. As previously mentioned it's unlikely any devs want to be bothered with that.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] danger2u:
7000 $ and no progress here

i guess nobody working on this or they wait Android 5.0

man,a lot of money.

i wish i have those knowledge to work on it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] platypied50:
Took a very long time for jcase to reel in the Droid Maxx, and that's one brilliant dev. It's likely to be a long while. All us laymen can do is pledge, wait and go about our business enjoying this sweet phone until we maybe catch a break for more awesomeness later. :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
sometimes i think people think this is some trivial thing
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] swboland:
It is pretty trivial in the grand scheme of things...

But seriously, noone who has a real interest in developing for the Turbo has the time or knowledge to unlock the bootloader. All of the devs with the skills necessary have said again and again that they are tired of working to crack Moto's software when any progress they make is so easily undone by a patch.

If you don't know by now, you should know...IF ROOT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU, MAKE SURE YOU BUY A PHONE WITH A SOLID DEV COMMUNITY.

Development for Moto phones in the US (especially on Verizon) has become increasingly difficult over time, and a lot of people are just fed up with it. Most of the really good devs don't even waste their time any more. Case in point being jcase...he doesn't even want to bother trying to crack the Turbo, no matter how much money people try to throw at him.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joshm.1219:
Well said
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] platypied50:
By the way, I'll add $15 if we can establish root with write-protect off. For unlock $25. Unlock is worth more than that for sure, but if it's anything like Sunshine I'd still need to shell out another $25. Still well worth it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] djbling:
Will a bootloader unlock automaticly give us root acess?

I know an unlocked bootloader means we can flash a coustom recovery. If we can flash a coustom recovery that means we can flash a custom rom, So if someone unlocked our bootloader, aren't they also giving us root?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BriCo84:
Correct
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] djbling:
Sweet. So bootloader unlock is worth more, because with just root we would have to use safestrap or something similar. And i want to see this baby with overclocking kernels and stuff. I belive Verizon has this bad boy locked down pretty tight so I'll pledge 48 on bootloader. Zero on just root. I hate safestrap
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bigv5150:
Forget about safe strap hashcode isn't maintaining it anymore. So root won't mean you can flash a ROM. Only an unlocked boot loader will.

sent from "my kungfu is stronger then yours" XT1080
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] giant25:
I'm in for $50 and $50.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Caretaker007:
125 for bootloader and 50 for root access
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] fecht:
Please up my pledge from 20/20 to $50 bootloader - $25 root

Thanks
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] daweim0:
Seeing that it has been over a month now, what's the chance somebody will still find a way to get root or an unlocked bootloader?

-A hopeful turbo owner
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gqskrub:
I believe it's always been slim to none.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Slickademo:
I have my money on Dan Rosenberg...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BriCo84:
Soak test has begun for VoLTE update. My understanding is it is not a Lollipop update so that is good news for our chances of unlock or root. Let's just hope they didn't close any security loop holes a dev was trying to utilize.

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@rajuabju, how is this bounty handled with respect to updates. For instance I have several users on this device, when updates are released they will not be able to defer the update on a daily basis as I am sure some of us are willing to do in hopes of an exploit. These users will be too annoyed and will have to accept the update....and I can hardly blame them. So my question is, does the bounty require that it works on the CURRENT stock version of the software? Personally, for me, if someone develops an exploit to the original build or the current one, a month from now or longer, well after the upcoming update is released, it is useless to me and i would not want to pay out a bounty that I can't utilize, but at the same time i want to honor my pledge, which is i guess why i am asking what the rule is. I am not sure how everyone feels about this as well? This is the first phone i have had where update advisories where this insistent, annoying, and intrusive.

What i would LIKE to do, is update my pledge to $200 unlock, $50 root, but contingent on it working on the CURRENT build of the turbo software upon time of release of the exploit.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] swboland:
Has he even said anything about working on the Droid Turbo? I thought he gave up on Moto after the Razr Maxx HD.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
Unfortunately, I'm not going to keep seperate lists for a root/BL unlock method to work with differing (ie, original or current) builds... its just too much work on my part to keep organized in that manner. And we all know that the actual chances of a successful exploit ever being found are pretty minimal to begin with.

If you want to upgrade your phone to the latest build (and I'm debating doing so to get VoLTE), its just the risk you run that *IF* an exploit is found to work with the original software on the turbo, it wont work with the later builds. And maybe we get lucky and it does.

I've actually learned to live without root. The Turbo is so close to stock Android, I'm good with it. The ONLY thing that kills me is the ads when not on Wifi. UGHHHHHHHHHH
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mjc2251:
Same here...I've been using adguard tho. WiFi or not it blocks the ads.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Steve One:
So you would recommend adguard
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mjc2251:
Yes, coming from rooted devices with adaway, I find adguard to be just as good!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JakeDHS07:
Get adguard for non rooted AD blocking:

http://adguard.com/?c=789210
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] darrenthedad:
Thanks for the adguard tip. I can handle almost every non root concession, but the ads are a huge adjustment. I'd be willing to pay $200 more for an ad free phone.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rayjr13:
definitely easier than adblock plus filtering on each wifi proxy sheesh. Still get some ads in apps. Nothing like host file filtering sigh*

thanks
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
Updated.

and how the **** did this thread turn into a discussion about adblocking.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] shootquinn:
I'd like to pledge 100 for bootloader, 50 for root.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
No it didn't, i had it the first day I tried.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
Then please attack this thing! Haha
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joshm.1219:
Am I the only one that gets really excited every time jcase posts in this thread? I think he's posting an exploit every time
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lazarus2297:
no, you are not.. :(
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rayjr13:
Many are only interested in rooted for adblocking on this device and it may is have affected their pledge for root. Likewise with the questions and comments around WiFi tether. Agreed this thread could be bounty pledges only but that's my answer to your ?

Sent from my Electric Boogalocked Turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
If Motorola launches the Moto maxx on all carriers. And internationally, the odds are very good. If it stays the way it is where it's a Verizon exclusive with just a few countries getting the moto Maxx I'd say it's a coin flip. Most developers, & I only say most don't do it for money. They do it for the glory. While the bounty is great all. It's going to come down to the amount of users. If you're the guy who cracked the code and a million people benefit from it. You are legendary. If only a hundred people benefit from it, you're just another guy
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] happysteve11c:
I just want root for two things one for wifi hotspot and two for changing songs with my volume rocker greatest thing ever right there
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] norsknight:
Just bought my TURBO

I just bought my turbo yesterday and I really like it so far, I am also impressed that there is not as much bloatware as I have seen on previous devices, I cant wait for unlocking and rooting!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] btreu1:
I caught my phone trying to auto update last night... That makes me a little nervous. I killed the process, and it hasn't come back yet. I'm trying to keep an eye on it, in case it tries sneaking by me again. Anyone else having this issue? I'm getting a little anxious for unlock and root...

Also, slightly off topic, I created a little app for people with phones that can't do simultaneous voice and data. It enables Wifi during phone calls, and shuts it off when the call ends. Would anyone find that useful? I was thinking of putting it on the play store for $.99, but I don't know if that would be worth the cost of putting it in the store... Opinions on this would be appreciated. Testers with older phones would also be helpful.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
If you're in the area where your data speeds are better than your WiFi speeds and you have unlimited that's actually a really good idea. I don't have that issue, but very creative.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Areas like Mountain View California have city-wide free WiFi, this would be an insanely useful apps for people in these types of areas. The only problem is that this is silicon valley... And everyone who lives here probably already knows how to write their own apps haha

Sent from my XT1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] protivakid:
To my knowledge the rooted LG G3 doesn't rat itself out like the bootloader message I had on my Motorola and can be reversed back to stock without anyone knowing. Feel free to link a source if I am wrong.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Virus1x:
I offer 25 bootloader / 10 root
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LifeAsADroid:
Fact.

The G3 has a workaround to get one into TWRP/CWM, but does not actually unlock the stock bootloader itself.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mdav07:
I thought the cubed said bump was not a work around an that it was an unlock. I'm no developer but I could have read wrong.

Sorry wrong person very sorry
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] beaups:
I didn't say that. It is a workaround.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mdav07:
Sorry ment the cubed
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] andreshuerta428:
New to this thread, so is there root yet, if so, what tool can i use. Thankyou.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] CoreyWillWhat:
No root for Verizon Droid Turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LifeAsADroid:
Don't worry my man, those of us in the know know what's up.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mdav07:
Sorry i was referring to what Thcubed said in the bump thread. Post #181 that it is a true unlock and that its not a work around. Again im just stating what i read.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] aviwdoowks:
Would you link to this bump thread? There is no Thcubed in this one.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mdav07:
http://xdaforums.com/verizon-lg-g3/orig-development/bump-unlock-lg-g3-twrp-verizon-t2900590/page19

Its for the Verizon LG G3 very sorry for the off topic post
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bfromcali:
Same. Fortunately mine is set to only update via Wi-Fi, which i do not use.

Btw, your app idea sounds useful. I would use it, except i have no Wi-Fi, just my data. Thus, i am interested in the VoLTE update, but I'm hoping others will chime in regarding the update and actual relation to potential root before installation. I'm hoping it's only a VoLTE update and nothing that would affect future unlocking and root. If anyone has/could sandbox it or let us know, that would be cool/good karma.

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Seems like this update is only VoLTE and simultaneous voice & data. Data dropping is really annoying me, so I think I'm going for it, unless someone can suggest a good reason not to.

My thought is that there is little reason to presume additional bootloader security enhancement at this point, and it's not a Lollipop update, so....

Thoughts?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
Nobody has even found a some what type of exploit for root. If we are going to get root. It will be on lolipop. At least that would be my guess.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
I agree. Why would anyone wanna release an exploit for root/unlock bootloader if its just going to be destroyed in the next update that can come anytime?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] btreu1:
You both make excellent points... Hmmm. I'll have to think about this. Perhaps it's time to update.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BriCo84:
Because it may be easier for a dev to exploit a security hole in kit kat that gets patched in lollipop.

If they unlock it in kit kat, you can still install the lollipop update when it comes out and maintain your unlock status
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
Did you not see how easy it was to find an exploit on lollipop for the nexus line? It was found in a matter of days. Thats the main reason why we lost some developers because they would find an exploit and the minute an update comes out its been patched. Lollipop should be coming anytime now, and thats probably what the hold up is. If they find an exploit for lollipop in turn wouldnt that be a root method for kitkat if people are so afraid to update? I think it is because an exploit found for a newer release of an update means that those flaws are there for the other older updates IE kitkat.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] btreu1:
Dang it! You make a good point as well!.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
I personally would update up to lollipop after that i would hold off. Mainly because the updates after lollipop would be for patches. I took the update for advance calling. Unfortunately I believe HD calling is still in the works. Its not 100% so I turned it off for now. Other than the advance calling feature some little bugs have been fixed. the phone seems snappier, lag is practically gone of the camera, and the jello effect is no more on my end. Just to make sure i can get the best out of an update and its just how i do this with all my android devices is do a complete FDR atleast once or twice after an update to make sure I get a fresh start.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BriCo84:
My understanding is the nexus 5 is unlocked out of the box so i am not sure your argument holds. In any event, this is a Motorola device, not a Nexus 5. You can't compare the 2.

I disagree with your assessment. If anything this device is likely to be more difficult to unlock after lollipop. But thats just my 2 cents from experience, I have not actually looked in to it, nor can I predict the security changes from a future lollipop update.

Ok enough of that. This thread is for bounty only. Let's keep it on topic.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
I absolutely agree with this statement. Once I get lollipop, I'll probably hold off on any future updates. Because most the time they're just going to be for security reasons too close whatever hole may have been found. But as far as the most recent update goes, it's a good one. Phone does feel snappier, cameras a bit quicker. And I also have advanced calling turned off. Feels very alpha.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lazarus2297:
I am not a developer by any means.. but I don't think you can look at how easy a Nexus is to root vs a non-nexus.. I don't think rooting the nexus line had anything to do with Lollipop being easy to crack. (in fact all I have read points to the opposite) but more the fact that you can unlock the bootloader which gives easy access to installing root/su

but then again i could be wrong.

I wanted to keep the turbo, but I just decided to jump ship to the Nexus 6 and have no regrets.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
I wasnt shooting toward comparing nexus to non nexus. basically what I was trying to say is why would developers work on an exploit for kitkat when lollipop will be out soon and pratically all devices after the update will have that new update. makes no sense to spend the time to work on en exploit. Best to wait so that anyone who gets the droid turbo with lollipop already on it will be able to root.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
I've not seen a public exploit for Lollipop, let alone the nexus line. You are confusing an exploit with getting su to work, two entirely different things. Very very different things.

Main reasons the community has lost exploit developers:

Community behavior

Dev got bored

Dev got too busy in life

It was no longer fun

it got harder.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] billygoat32:
In.

Bootloader 50

Root 50
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] an21281:
Pledge $35 root and $75 bootloader
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
I was missing changing songs with volume also. But then I found "Pocket Skip Track" today in the playstore and it works great! You should check it out
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mfun89:
The people at MobileGo are claiming their android manager can root thr turbo, but i cant get past the initizalizing phone screen. Anyone else wanna give it a go? http://www.androidphonetransfer.com
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] CoreyWillWhat:
"Easily to root your Android smprtphone or tablet."....the typos in that third line make me have some doubts
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
I may give it a shot later today. I'll let ya know what happens.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] shawnff:
100 for unlocked bootloader. 50 for just root.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mfun89:
They posted a YouTube video specifically for the turbo that's the only reason I'm even aknowleging it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
I dont think that is a droid turbo. looks like the maxx (older max not newer one)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzOz7r5X4dE
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
This?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzOz7r5X4dE

It is all renders. Heck, I can install supersu on my device. It just won't work, and the su binary will not get copied.

It is a scam.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
Well I was gonna give it a try but I'll have to wait till I get home tonight. My work network wont let me open the download page. It says malware threat. So I'll try it tonight from home.

@ the_rooter I'm not so sure that's a Turbo either.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] skmpowdjy:
Guys, it's fake. Don't try it. They never show the phone off-- just some computer screen dialog boxes with the words "Droid Turbo rooted" on it. The mock they show of the Turbo is also a computer image, running the Galaxy S5's TouchWiz with a photoshopped picture of SuperSU. Nothing about this is legitimate, it's all just photoshopped images for publicity and views.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
What i see is just a scam like i posted before I dont think that is even a turbo. For anyone thats wants root/unlocked bootloader. Check here on xda from time to time. this would be the only site where people would post their exploits/methods.

Update: I put in a report on youtube about it being fake.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
Ok. I'll just leave it alone. Thanks guys
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LifeAsADroid:
There are suckers born every minute.

Michael Bay made some videos about alien robots a while ago. I think I'm gonna see if I can make friends with one of these "transformer" things after rooting my Turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
LOL Well said :D
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Hope blurs logic - i almost fell for a similar fake tut
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
I think sometimes people that normally know better "Myself included" Get to feeling desperate and jump at things that they know are too good to be true LOL