yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Ninja1:
OK, flashed with mtty, now restoring in device upgrade mode with Sprite--this should give me a good feel for the OS. I can hard reset and do a proper reinstall later when I have time.

The ATT 3G logo is cool the first time that you see it, after that it is just annoying. I wonder if there is anyway to prevent it?

General speed of the OS seems faster. Sprite restores (~39megs) used to be pretty slow on the old Cingular ROM, this one is quite quick. And now it's done and re-booting. Time to play. More later.

Ninja1
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] wpbear:
Ok the XDA FTP IS SLOW, maybe becasue someone advertied this on HOFO :) LOL, just kidding but to make it easier I am hosting the complete RAR HEREas well. I wont host the extracts since someone said the extracts were bogus.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] outz:
Anyone know if CV works by default with this upgrade? (i thought i read somewhere that it would) or do you still get the 'not part of your data plan' crap
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] patmannyc:
I hate to speak so soon after a hard reset, but I notice the device is MUCH faster than before, and even a little faster than the other 3.3 on the ftp. PTT works, but I did not try it yet because it warned about extra charges. I iwll report back on CV after I install a few more apps (Palm Threaded SMS works PERFECTLY with AKU 3 BTW)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] patmannyc:
I would assume CV works now due to the fact that REALPLAYER is now included in Programs. PTT is there also.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] the_passenger:
the anime screen sucks big time.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
the realplayer is actually an HTC variant.. its not the full app of realplayer... also the default animated screen is retarded.. but cool for future use..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] URPREY:
I like the bootup screen :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] dfresh305:
who's got ideas on how to get ptt turned on!!! cingi won't answer my phone calls!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] TriAxisFL:
Boot Up animated screen for those who are wondering what it looks like. I tweaked it a little though. I removed the black frames and put it in a loop.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] outz:
looks similar to the blackjacks... probably sounds the same too. annoying. i mean what if you have to reboot your phone during a meeting. who the hell wants to hear that?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] robs96:
Modem Connect

Ok where in the heck did the modem connect program go? is Internet Sharing taking it's place. If so anyone have any ideas on where to go to get setup instructions? b4 I just started modem connect and used dial modem settings on laptop to connect.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] LegolasTheElf:
Used mtty to upgrade only ExtRom and OS (left bootloader at 1.01mfg), and radio at 1.16.

Prior to installing the OS/ExtRom, I did a full backup from Sprite Backup, and used the correct 'Getupdatedata' applet to store the info needed to 'upgrade' the device from the backup. It restored, and the software works, but, it does not work 100%. I had to reinstall all my programs again.

Otherwise, looks good.. But, the boot sound/graphics have GOT to go! yuck!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] URPREY:
It now shows how much space is available when installing programs! Extended ROM unhide/unlock worked fine.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] eagle 1:
After installing this rom, my sound was very low. At first I thought, man the sound volume sucks with this rom. I may have to go back to another version. I mean the sound all the way up was very soft...then I read your post and I was happy again....thanks for the heads up
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] TriAxisFL:
For some reason the password is missing in My ISP.

I renamed mine to 3G Cingular and tried to connect and it asked me for the password. I vaguely remember the password was CINGULAR1 so i tried this it it seemed to work. Is this the correct password? Should I leave it blank, does it matter?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] robs96:
Modem Connect

Never mind the Internet Sharing actually works better. . . as far as setting up the connection but the overall connect seems slower.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] sugardad:
Yup It Is....

and I had second thoughts....

soooo...It's not only me...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] eagle 1:
What radio are you running with this Rom? Did you do the RUU upgrade or the mtty mfg upgrade?

I am running the 1.27 radio and upgraded via mtty mfg. My radio and internet connection seems bad...Anyone else using 1.27 and upgraded via mtty have issues?

Update...I hard reset'd a couple of times and now running back up to speeds of 800-1200..Weird that other net apps worked fine..Just IE did not work right...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pnt7:
I do have it now that its uploaded.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] tonycrouch:
Can anyone confirm if the BT/VC 1.6 issues are resolved? Is the caller Id, announcments, notifications etc coming thru BT now instead of thru the speakerphone?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] robs96:
Upgraded with RUU and it's really sluggish almost appears it trying to download the entire page prior to displaying in IE?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] suthurnlatino:
Cingular Video isn't working for me right now which kinda sucks. Besides a couple of icon changes and the PTT button finally working it doesn't seem like much of an upgrade.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] honestabe:
htc tweak doesnt seem to be workin for alot of the settings.. anyone else having this issue?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] exstatica:
I'd have to agree with you on this. Real Player still isn't registered as a filetype for streams. the ptt now actually does something that no one uses. I have yet to see the 3G icon. I'm currently on 3g with my laptop on cingular and it hasn't shown up on my phone. Other then the change of look to AT&T there isn't much of a change.

nm about 3g it just showed up my phone. but I guess they got rid of the U icon and replaced it with 3G.

I've also noticed my contacts section is different. its almost cluddered. All in all it seems a little faster, takes up more space and works just as it did. Kind of a dissapointment really.

Thanks

Ex
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] k_otix99:
i want the ptt. :D

any hopes that someone can hack it?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] URPREY:
Had to do a hard reset. One of my programs caused my phone to boot and not respond to button/screen input :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ceebz:
Same here. Thinking about going back to the South African ROM with 120 radio.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mnicol819:
fyi... PTT hack works after soft-reset.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pasichnyk:
VC1.6 still not routing notifications through bluetooth

I just flashed the OS using my existing 1.16 Radio and the 1.01MFG boot loader...

I paired my Jawbone Bluetooth headset and installed Voice Command 1.6... looks like the notification routing still isn't making it ot the bluetooth device.

Is this issue due to a radio stack bug? Or is it something in the OS itself that is breaking the notification routing?

Will flashing to a newer radio stack, like the one included in this ROM (yes, I know there are issues associated with this) fix this problem?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] koolhand79:
Just wondering after flashing this rom is there any way to get PIE to function as it did with the test rom. eg.. directing to wap sites (ie yahoo&espn). is there any way to get it to go directly to the real site. I know it has nothing to do with the connection settings because they are the same as i had configured on the test rom and SA 1.35
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Ninja1:
Impressions: Seems faster at the OS level, but not a great deal. All the isp settings were missing ID and password. PTT hack would not work, no matter what. IE loading slower for most sites. Sync with my desktop and Exchange server flakey, if at all. Voice Command not routing properly. All this happened even after a hard reset and repairing/etc.

Given that I'm spending the next week at Heavenly (Yeah! It's going to snow!), and I'm not allowed to play with my electronics, I'm rolling back right now and I'll try again when I get back in 10 days.

Overall impression: Not ready for primetime. Looks like this ROM needs a bit more polishing and testing before it can be rolled out to the masses.

Ninja1
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Steveborough:
New ROM Questions

Upgraded my factory 8525 with the recently release ROM update, am i still unable to unlock the ext rom, need to load a security app? Also why has the date become 2 lines on the default today screen? Lastly, during the upgrade my rom went from 1.34 (i think) to 2.06 is that normal, seems like a huge jump.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kalrykh:
Thought I read something about Cingular Video not working with this ROM. After changing the connection in Real Player to Media Net, Cingular video works fine for me.

Oh, and the internet settings and everything for media net were there, didn't have to change anything. not sure why people are having issues if they're loading the same ROM i am. Guess I need to change my signature now too.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
There is probably a good reason why the info is missing from MY ISP... according to the cingular change log they fixed the media net connection so that when using WIFI you dont have to change to MY ISP and be bothered by the proxy server.. so by them doing that they rendered the MY ISP connection useless (even though we all know better)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] URPREY:
You have to be SuperCID for the extROM to unlock properly.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ercave1:
New feature?

I noticed that if I hold the CommManager button on the side of my 8525, the phone goes into vibe mode instead of ringer. Hadn't noticed that before. You even see an icon on the tray that lets you know the ringers status.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] k_otix99:
so is radio 1.27 better than 1.33 that is in the new cingular rom? how so?

new to this so...:(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
here is the copy and paste from the changelog about what i was talking about:

[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']HTC implements a workaround which will disable HTTP proxy when Wifi connection is established. 8525 will not route the traffic to proxy when Wifi is in use. With this solution, User won’t need to switch to MyISP connection manually when using Wifi.[/FONT]
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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
Hey all! Just another one of my dumb questions. But, everything was exactly as it should be with the upgrade. However, when I installed the extended ROM that came with 2.06 I see no difference than without it. Any thoughts?

(I know I'm going to get a simple answer on this one)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
did you hard reset after doing that?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] tomcat777:
Extracting the OS and ExtRom with NBHextract.exe??????

For the life of me I can't figure out how to extract the OS and ExtRom using the NBHextract.exe. I have searched the WIKI and see all that it says!!! I have all the programs, just need that last push I guess. I am currently running 1.01 and supercid. I know that I need to get the OS extract into the mtty then the exrom also. My problem is I can't get the files seperated. Thanks for all that you all do!!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pasichnyk:
Extract the .exe file with winrar. Grab the .nbh file from that and put it in the same folder as NBHextract.exe. Then run NBHExtract.exe on the .nbh file. That will give you the OS and ExtROM files.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
Yep, did a hard reset, but no diff. What are some of the things added with the extended ROM?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Steveborough:
My question is does this update make it easier to CID unlock? Also, has anyone noticed lower overall volume including Windows Media player? Is there a reg hack to boost volume? Can I downgrade still? Had BL 1.06 now have 1.09 - what does that mean for future unlockability? Thanks in advance
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] LegolasTheElf:
The volume is pitifully low.. (Except in the AT&T splash screen of course). Anyone have any ideas on how to boost the volume via. Registry?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] LegolasTheElf:
One other thing I've noticed is that I can *NOT* use isp.cingular to connect. It must be connected via. wap.cingular; I can have NO proxy, but, it will NOT go through the isp.cingular gateway :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pasichnyk:
I believe now that you are on 1.09 you are stuck. You may be able to flash the old 1.30 Cingular ROM though, which will downgrade you to the 1.04 boot loader. From there you could get SuperCID. I'm not sure if this is possible though.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pasichnyk:
What data plan are you on? I believe isp.cingular is only available for PDANet and up. On my MediaMax200 I have never been able to get isp.cingular to work.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] princeasi:
bandswitch freezes after i updated to the new cingy rom, has anyone else experience this??

nevermind I uninstalled and reinstalled, and now its seems to be stable again!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] LegolasTheElf:
Pdaconnect Unlimited. I've *always* been able to use isp.cingular.. Only not working since the new rom was installed... I'm ALMOST tempted to downgrade to the old rom again... We'll see...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] .VIBE:
What's the general consensus here- stick with the test ROM or upgrade 2.05 to this cingular 2.06?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jokinawa:
I also noticed the "Task Manager" or "X to close apps" control panel menu is gone. in the Cingy:mad:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kalrykh:
i take back what i said earlier, apparently i was high, i did have to enter the proxy information into the media net settings. guess i'll try to figure out how to tether this to my macbook pro and try the new internet sharing stuff :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] fone_fanatic:
Are there any issues with this radio 1.33? because i'm on 1.27 now and have some issues with it and don't know if i should go ahead and update and be stuck with 1.0108 radio bootloader.

So should i go for the manual update and keep my raido at 1.27 or just screw it and do the .exe update and get stuck with the 1.33 radio?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Steveborough:
Can i get a definitive answer on this? I need to unlock and my volume back.

This thread is becoming useless.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kalrykh:
BTW, if anyone has any success using this ROM and Internet Sharing to successfully tether a mac via bluetooth or USB, please let me know what you did. I've read the wiki entry on it and things just aren't working out well :P The only service it allows me to choose for the phone is to use it as an audio gateway.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kinky-chinky:
Having read the reams of info (useful & not so useful) available on this forum, I believe if you upgrade to a Radio which has a BL

above

1.07 then you cannot revert back to BL 1.01/1.04 easily (if at all).

You will be able to upgrade full Rom's but not the extracted OS, Extrom or Radio packages.

Once you've upgrade to the BL above 1.07 any future full Rom downgrades to older Rom's will work except that you get to keep the Radio from the Rom you downgraded from with it's higher BL.

That's how I interpret the info.

Hope thats right and helpful

kinky
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Chatty:
@kinky-chinky: It's all written in the Wiki - except much clearer (no confusing about SPL with RBL for instance).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kinky-chinky:
@ chatty

The trouble is, why are there so many people repeatedly asking the same questions.

Is it that possibly the wiki is not clear enuogh for the non technically mind folks.

I think I had to read and re-read a lot of the threads and wiki to get a better understanding of things. Some explanations are easier to understand than others

Not knocking the work that's being done here and fully appreciate all the hard work people like pof has put in and those willing to help other forum members.

kinky

PS Sorry this is off topic.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jasjamming:
HI Guys,

It seems the cingular rom is bloated with carrier customisations etc.

From the feedback i have been getting from this thread it seems the TEST 2.05 generic TYTN ROM is probably the better choice. I have been running the test rom for over a day now, and today i slowly loaded all my apps and it works great, far better than 1.35 SA Rom.

If the 2.06 ROM doesnt have WPA2 support, then there prob isnt a reason to go for it. Lets wait for LEAF wireless to officially release their TYTN generic WWE Rom in a months time.

The apps I am running and its as smooth as butter on TEST 2.05

Phone Alarm,

Tomtom 6

pocket player

memaid

sktools

spb diary, weather, time, pocket plus

the today screen doesnt lag as it did with the 1.35ROM with the above plugins.

works a treat and I am really satisfied,

:)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] TriAxisFL:
If anyone wants to remove/change the startup animation or sound its located at.

HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\StartupAnimation

Enabled change from 1 to 0 to turn everything off.

or

Delete the WAVFile Key to remove the sound only.

or

Put your own .GIF file or .WAV file on the phone and rewrite the 2 keys to the new file location.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] apokryphus:
I think so too. I installed both and the Cingular isnt the better choice for me.

No WPA2, no task manager and of course it is branded. :cool:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pof:
Have you tried without letting the Cingular ExtROM install? I'm not sure what it exactly does, but it modifies some wifi settings for sure.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mxlaser:
I installed with no extROM, same problem

The TEST rom had no WPA2 either, but the swedish one did. Makes me wonder if the Swedish one added it to the HTC copy they got, or if the other ROM's had it removed by the carriers.

Either way, none of the updates yet have remotly been close to the holy grail of updates we all we're expecting.

If i got a good, fast, WPA2 and all other features AKU3.3 rom, i wouldnt be all that bothered with cooked roms, bar maybe a crossbow install
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jasjamming:
Its seems the removal of WPA2 is cooked inside the OS.nb so the ExtROM didnt make a difference.

This case is similar with Dopod 838pro's offered by 3 Australia (Orange) where their carrier settings etc are cooked in the OS.nb (not ExtRom). I have a Jasjam and i still cannot get MMS to work properly with the same settings as Dopod Australia customers with 3.

pitty.

Anyways, hopefully Leaf wireless will release an official ROM with WPA2 support, or eventually I will install the SVE and patch it to English.

Nonetheless, the TEST Rom so far for me has been the most stable and responsive ROM (apart from Cigular 2.06, but who needs all their crap).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mikeruoc:
So far this ROM seems much better than 2.05. Faster and much more polished. The thing I did notice is that it seems the proxy is hard coded into IE like the Treo 750 on Cingular. Thats why PIE seems slower. Here is how to turn it off.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Internet Settings]

The default setting (that uses the proxy) is:

"EnableAutoDetect"=dword:00000000

Change it to:

"EnableAutoDetect"=dword:00000001

Or simply delete it. It's more of the fact that if it's there and =0 it's used. if it's missing it's not used. But changing it to =1 will also make it disable. This way you can simply change the value back without re-adding the seting back in.

So far I am very happy with the ROM. Fixed all the junk with the old AKU 2.3. FYI I flashed the whole ROM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] sk0t:
The PTT button hack worked fine.

All my apps installed fine.

Using My ISP and changing it from wap.cingular to isp.cingular I had problems. I could sync to my Exchange server just fine, but PIE was useless. Changed to MEdia Net, no problems.

Volume issue resides as well. But, it's livable.

Seems faster. No stability issues so far.

Haven't tried tether yet or any such feat.

Animated flash is gay. It's going now that I saw the hack for it.

Did not RUU, but rather mtty. Did both OS and ExtROM. Hack for unhiding and using the ExtROM worked. Cleaned out some of the crap that they use and shrunk it down.

Haven't checked much else.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] marcosjb1:
Rom is excellent...shouldve modified the extrom...but I'm lazy...other than all the crap loaded up with the extrom, this rom is excellent. Rom is Faster, the Internet Sharing utility allows rapid tethering (i.e. no more need for your cpu to dial-up like a regular modem) and all my apps loaded up fine. I'm still disappointed that CV still doesnt work like I was hoping (using the PDACONNECTUNLD plan) maybe it will be activated when this rom is officially released on HTC's website?

Having trouble modifying the automatic proxy setting...this won't allow me to use my beloved isp.cingular apn...:mad: , and the registry edit to fix this won't stick for some reason (waiting for 2 minutes after editing, and doing a soft reset using SBSH ilauncher instead of stylus soft reset...)

The splash screen was alright the first two times...now its officially gay...gay, gay, gay, gay, gay...hopefully the registry edit for that won't **** my phone up...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] avram_z:
Where did you get the rom ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] marcosjb1:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Windkracht13:
Yeh, were can i download this Rom?

THANKZzz...

Edit, Big THANKZzzz
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jasjamming:
check the wiki guys, its all there
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Steveborough:
Low volume with update

Is anyone else experienceing extremly low volume output with the new ROM. 100% is about 60% of old ROM volume. I cant hear anything on the subway. all kinds of pissed. Is there a registry setting to adjust the volume max?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jasjamming:
this problem has been reported numerous times with this 2.06 ROM. Not sure of a fix as of yet, but I have not read all the posts in great detail.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Pc78:
Uff...I was just about to put the new ROM on my SPV...but now will wait a couple of days for this issue to be solved...

Regards,

Primoz