yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
no not yet... especially not if the PTT is tied to the radio...

this is a project i am working on though... i have to do more testing with it to decide if you can even extract it and make it work
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] steven814:
thank you for the help I have the new rom on my computer and can intall it with no problem but I do not have enough know how to solve any problems that my come up thanks again
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gixerguy:
Does anyone know how to remove the vibrate icon from the tray?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
ha ha ha ha.. so thats what that thing is.... i couldnt figure it out for nothing... im such a retard :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ercave1:
Remove TrayIcon_MannerMode.lnk from the Startup Folder in Windows, you will no longer be able to set the phone to Vibrate mode by holding down the Com Manager button by doing this.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
Hey Mark!! Any chance you might be able to give me an idea on how/why I can't seem to get the extended ROM to install? At least I'm pretty sure it's not installed. I started out fresh (superCID) and followed every instruction to the letter (I think). Is there any common problem I may be overlooking that might have caused this? I got 2.06 installed fine, but I'm pretty sure I have the old ext. ROM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ercave1:
Just a hunch, but did you install ExtRom.nb, that is assuming that you only installed using mtty. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gixerguy:
It worked perfect after a soft reset, thanks.

The rom is working out pretty well for me. The only thing still hanging is the issue in regard to using an internet connection while connected via USB. I have read through several wiki blurbs on AKU3 and still don't have any idea on how to resolve this.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
Yes to both. It seemed to stop early though. I guess my (probably dumb) question is what is specifically included in this ext ROM?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ercave1:
I didn't notice a whole lot that wasn't already on earlier Roms, other than some new Cingular Customizations (from what I've read). BBConnect, PTT, RealPlayer are the new ones I noticed.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
Interesting. I actually noticed that RealPlayer and PTT were included before even trying to install the ext ROM. Although, I don't have BBConnect.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] k_otix99:
i took the plunge with the entire rom update as well so I have radio 1.33

after using it today at work I noticed alot of those issues. The BT I can live without but I figured out that if I put my status to Do Not Disturb I cant initiate or respond to a PTT call. I still cant make a PTT call into a Cell Call.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
what all is in your ext rom?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
The information you posted above that i made bold and large is true with all PTT phones... its DND for a reason :D now i havent tried to convert a call yet, but all of the other features work fine for me.. i can send voice message, i can initiate and respond to PTT calls successfully etc...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
This is true.. the realplayer and PTT are integrated into the rom as they are actual HTC app's... bbconnect is a cab in the ext rom
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
Well, for some reason when I went to unhide the ext rom and just used the auto installer in there, everything installed fine.

Sooo... was that necessary to do in the first place? Am I just that stupid? I thought it was supposed to be auto installed when I installed it with mtty.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] the_passenger:
LOCK:Enabled

CAB: \Extended_ROM\C_Cingular_GoodEmail_081606.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\C_getmail.ppc2005(HTC8100).ARMV4Rel.cingular.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\C_HSDPA_Wirelss_Modem_Stall.cab

CAB: \Extended_ROM\C_Hermes_MobiTV.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\C_GetTeleNav.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\MT_PC_Hermes_PTT_REG_070129.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\PP_PIE_Default.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\ShortString_Keypad_XML.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\SMS_Setting_07Jun06.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\Hermes_BBC_launcher.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\SPM_Fix_ITS#2990.cab

LOCK: Disabled

RST: Reset
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ercave1:
Strange, it should have auto installed after soft resetting itself upon exiting mtty install.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] wpbear:
I am finally done and I think the new ROM is better. I really like the new Internet Sharing and the Cingular Video is better integrated than the fix we had before. The only thing I do not like is the Internet pass through from ActivSync to the device is not working maybe a reinstall of Activesync would help...I might try that tomarrow. The PTTFix is touchy but I have it working well and stable now with Vito Button Mapper paired with the PTTFix.

Overall better!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] TriAxisFL:
I thought the same thing about Activesync pass-through. It actually does work, but not for Internet Explorer. I tried my 2 email accounts, Resco Radio, Windows Live, etc and they all work through Activesync.

There was talk about doing a RegEdit to disable the built in Proxy inside of I.E. I did this and still had trouble using I.E. and it caused other issues. So hopefully someone knows how to fix this.

Right now I'm using Opera as my browser and it works with AS.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kalrykh:
Maybe I'm missing something, but if you're sitting at your computer syncing and your computer has internet access, why would you want to use a web browser on a pda/phone.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] TriAxisFL:
All right I figured out the Proxy issue with Internet Explorer and using it with ActiveSync as passthrough internet.

There is a registry key located at

HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Profiders\{EF097F4C-DC48-4c98-8FF6-AEF805DC0E8E}\HTTP-(436EF144-84FB-4863-A041-8F905A62C572}

In here is a Proxy String Value with wireless.cingular.com:80

Delete the wireless.cingular.com:80 value

Now you can Internet Explorer through ActiveSync on MyISP

Doing this will completely remove your proxy and prevent you from accessing MediaNet and CingularVideo. I don't use them so I don't care.

I tried changing the following settings and adding a Proxy back to the Media Net connection settings but it didn't work. Here is what I did, am I missing anything?

Start/Setting/Connections/Connections/Advanced/Select Networks

Select MediaNet and click Edit

Select Proxy Settings and put a checkmark in both boxes.

Then enter wireless.cingular.com:80 in the Proxy Server field.

Select the Advanced tab and change Socks to localhost:1080
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kelkin:
Ok, I noticed after I extracted the OS and ExtRom from the 2.06 Cingular rom, the backlight on the keyboard doesn't light up anymore. Did I somehow mess something up?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Pc78:
Yes, everytime I install a new ROM I install all the appz from scrtacths...only sync the contacts and appointments with Outlook...and have the same problems...will try to remove some appz...

But still have problems with ExtROM.nb...I think it is partially installed cause I have the GPRS and MMS settings from Cingular but in the Device Info I have still the 1.35 showing....

Regards,

Primoz
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] honestabe:
im having the same problem with the keyboard
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Pc78:
I have no problems with this...but I unchecked in settings the Keyboard light sensor...and when I press any button the light switch on...

Regards,

Primoz
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] honestabe:
mine seems to go on when it feels like.. i dont understand it
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Pc78:
...the sensor have a strange behavior like in the SA 1.35 ROM...try to uncheck theLight sensor in settings...

Regards,

Primoz
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] honestabe:
i think im going back to the previous cingular rom.. the benifits are not worth the install
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
Hey Primoz, I had to "unhide" the ext rom on the phone and do the auto install from the ext rom folder. The instructions on how to open that up is here:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unhide_Extrom

Anyhow, that did it for me. Hope that helps!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Pc78:
I`ll try it throught the weekend cause I don`t have WinXP on the home computer...but I think will go to the SA 1.35 ROM too...

Regards,

Primoz
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Pc78:
Hi there! But now it shows you the exact ExtROM in Device information?

Regards,

Primoz
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ywl3k:
help me please!I just dont know why I can't use GPRS with Rom 2.06,but I can use GPRS with Rom 2.05 or 1.35.The same setting but the different rom.It drives me crazy!I am sure that my GPRS setting is right.Thanks!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
No it doesn't, and I'm not exactly sure that it ever did for me. But, I was able to see the ext rom contents and install them and now they're running. So, that's good enough for me.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Pc78:
OK will give it a tray...thanks for help! ;)

Regads,

Primoz
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] vikramdhani:
so is it worth upgrading to this rom or no?????????
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
I think you'll probably have to go through this thread to see what the positives and negatives are. Everyone has a different setup and different opinions about it. You'll need to tweak some stuff on it, for sure, but I'm actually content with it. I've loaded up all the extras I want on it and it's running faster than the stock 1.34 rom I had on before. So, that's good enough for me!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] marcosjb1:
I've seen some post claiming that Cingular Video works with this upgrade. I am assuming that it only works with people that have a MediaNet data package and not the Pda Connect Unltd? Or are some people getting CV to work that have the PDA Connect plan? I've tried it on my 8525 and it still gives me the "can't validate my account" error...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] dodadent:
Which is best, fast and stabile? Which to install in my HTC Tytn?

Cingular 2.06.502.3 or RUU_Hermes_WWE_2.05.255_1_test?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] trion:
My opinion is, use the cingular os, with the HTC ext rom.

But it needs some tweaking.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] wpbear:
I think it is proven that you must use your SIM in a native phone with Cingular Video (ie LG CU500, Cing/Samsung SYNC, or maybe a Blackjack) Everyone I talk to that has the "billing" error either on the old realplayer hack or this new ROM with built in Realplayer tell me that puting their SIM in one of those phones, then ruinning Cingular Video once, then put the SIM back in the 8525, then their Cingular Video works on the 8525. I have talked to both MediaNet/Max and PDA data plan users and ALL say this has fixed the problem. It sounds stupid but it is working.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] wpbear:
That is very interesting. Try adding the reg key you took out back to fix your problem??? I use medianet and the video so I do not want to loose that, but I find it interesting that Opera works. I tryed pocketweather and it would not sync under activesync unless I turned on NO PROXY within pocketweather.

Something else interesting. I did the tweak to Not use proxy all the time from the beginning of this thread (also now in Wiki) I installed Slingbox and my sling box works with out changing any settings. However, with the old ROM I could only use slingbox with My ISP, it would not connect with MediaNet. So something is working right to let slingbox thorugh no proxy. I like not having to change connections, and I do not really think it is any faster or slower with MediaNet proxy on or off.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pietrucci:
In my opinion the Swedish version. But that lacks MMS and some other stuff... I installed the English language cab. It's stabile and fast. No more dropped calls, stabile GPRS/UTMS.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] y2whisper:
you can get mms on the swe version will post solution today
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kelkin:
Figured it out.. Had to disable the auto light sensing checkmark under settings/buttons/backlight/enable keyboard backlight auto sensor..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] i835 chirp:
Looks very promising but I don't trust myself upgrading to a new ROM especially if not officially released. Hopefully it's officially publicly released by HTC, until then I'll be reading up on ROM updates.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mikegoldnj:
ROM Upgraded, Now 8525 turns on with phone off

I upgraded my 8525 using the full exe file.

I'm pretty happy with the new ROM. Things seem a bit faster.

The only issue I'm seeing, so far, is that when I turn the unit on I have to manually turn the phone on.

With the original ROM the device would start up with the phone on.

Is there any way to adjust this?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] megarek:
Hello everyone on XDA, this is my first post, but I have been doing a lot of reading. I got my 8525 only about 2 weeks ago, and I'm a sucker for this modding stuff, it runs in my veins as I've been doing it to my PC for years. The XDA-Developers active community is one of the reasons I decided to buy the 8525. I finally got up the nerve to upgrade 8525. Using Slueth's post on page 6, mousey's sticky, and the wiki, I was successfully able to downgrade to SPL 1.04 on my phone, make my phone SuperCID, upgrade radio to 1.27, install SPL 1.01, install 2.06 OS Rom, install the new ExtROM, and hard reset without a single problem. So thanks everyone! So far, I like to new ROM, everything is quite a bit snappier, and my stereo bluetooth headsets are automatically detected without having to refresh the settings to turn on stereo output.

Excuse my ignorance, but I am still a little bit confused about the new radio rom, 1.33, that some of you are running, and I can't seem to find a clear answer. How does one go about installing the new radio rom while staying SuperCID and keeping SPL 1.04 or 1.01 on the phone? Maybe I'm confused, but it seems to me that one must do a full ROM upgrade with SPL 1.09 (BAD) to get the new radio.

Also, is there any advantage to the new radio? Is there any good reason to upgrade the radio and be stuck with radioBL 1.08 over keeping radio 1.27 with radioBL 1.07?

Best regards,

Ross
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
i have found this issue on other roms as well... cause the phone turns the radio off before it powers off... if you do a soft reset the radio will turn on with the phone... and i have experienced about 80% of the time that after that soft reset with the radio on then it will continue to come back on even after manually powering down and back up...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
read here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=289173
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] koolhand79:
does anyone know how to get the start PIE home page from the test ROM. Its much more convienient than the one this rom gives u
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] honestabe:
worked like a charm
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] vikramdhani:
so how many people are able to use the gprs connection on the new rom i heard alot people are not being able to use gprs after the update ???
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] zohaer21:
mine is working ..i configured it manually (actually copied the settings from a nokia phone i have)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
i didnt do any configuration to my gprs.. worked like a charm striaight from the flash
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] oholic:
I got the gprs to work after the registery change i`ve made (posted earlier).

BUT i got problems. I can not make calls sometimes when gprs(edge) is connected.

Besides that , SPB Mobile shell doesnt work normaly, after you come back from standby , you are stuck on the scree saver :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] k_otix99:
Oops double post
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] k_otix99:
mark i beg to differ about DND function and the ability to send and receive alerts. With the native PTT phones LG Samsung etc you are able to send and respond to alerts no matter what my status is. On the 8525 there are def a few bugs. I tested it
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] steven814:
are all of your ptt contacts showing up on your phone? thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rgreenpc:
I amn very interested in this thread and have used you all as my collective guinea pigs....

I think I may hold off on upgrading for a bit.

The part about the radio getting shut off bothers me.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] wpbear:
This is a problem in old ROM too. Sometimes after poweron you are automatically in Flight Mode. I think it happens less actually in the New Rom, so another improvement.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rgreenpc:
Hmm well, as I am still using the plain vanilla that came with my 8525.

I want to play but I also want to be able to throw WM6 on it when that comes out.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
radio only does that when powering off and back on.. and somehow i wonder if this isnt phone related, it has done it to me on aku2.3, 2.6, 3.3, and on WM6... but i have always solved it by just doing a soft reset with the radio on and then anytime after that when i would power on/off the radio would come back on...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rgreenpc:
Mark - have others reported this as well?

Also... if you were a betting man do you think WM6 will end up being vendor released on Cingular branded 8525s?

That is the big reason I haven't just run the EXE.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] k_otix99:
yes all of my PTT contacts are showing up.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] dienson:
sound when start up after AT&T logo

same here the sound tad tad tad
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] steven814:
thank you for this info
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] TriAxisFL:
I had this issue after install. The problem was it didn't fill in the password in my connection setting.

Star/Settings/Connections/Connections/Advanced

Select MyISP and click Edit then Edit then Next/Next

The username was filled in as WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM

but the password was blank. I had to manually enter CINGULAR1 in all caps. After that I could use GPRS again.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] fone_fanatic:
I posted this in the hermes forum but got no reply, so here we go for a second try.

So after upgrading to this rom my sim contacts were mixed in with all my phone contacts. I did the reg tweak to hide sim contacts but when some people call and i have them save on SIM and phone contacts, the SIM name would show up. Like instead of John Smith with a contact photo showing, it would just show JohnSmith1 without the photo contact, which is what i have the person saved onto the SIM card. How do i get it back to show the Photo contact and name from phone?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ckd:
Slight keyboard issue with the Cingu 2.06 ROM

Ok, first off, I did dig through the Wiki and the 50 page 3.3 thread... :)

I have a TyTN, and I've successfully flashed the ROM and the ExtROM thanks to the excellent work you guys have done... noticed the symbols on the keyboard were out of order, so per the Wiki and some of the threads, I updated the registry key for Layout to 20409...

So all's well and good, symbols are back to normal, the only issue is that the Windows key is now Tab, the Ok key is now the Windows key, and the Tab key is Ok now.

Any ideas? Or, more likely, the particular thread I probably managed to miss?

Many thanks!

Carl
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] bkbroil:
Bluetooth Activesync on this ROM

Has anyone been able to connect to ActiveSync through Bluetooth on this ROM? I am able to connect to the Internet using Internet Sharing and a USB cable but I am not able to connect to my laptop using bluetooth. (If I could connect to ActiveSync through bluetooth than I think I could also connect to the internet using Internet Sharing)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
i dont think others have reported it that i am aware of.. i just never paid attention to see since i had a fix that worked for me..

And if i were a betting man i would bet the odds of WM6 being released by cingular/ATT for the 8525 would be very slim to none.. unless another US vendor was going to release it and give them some stiff competition...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rgreenpc:
Hmm.... now I guess that means I need to do all of the flashing to make my setup an old bootloader....

Howver from everything I have read.

If I install this new rom with just the EXE I won't be able to roll the Radio back, but I would be able to put a new ROM on at some point.

Correct?

I am trying to decide my best course of action.

1. Just flash to the new ROM/Radio an be done with it.

2. Flash just the new rom and not the new Radio.

3. Leave my setup as is, and hope that things get cooked for WM6 before Cingular sends this over air.

I guess 2 or 3 is what I am leaning twoards, just hate the thought of not getting WM6 as I had a chance to look at it and it seems very nice.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] monkey28rb:
i had this problem but a few more keys were all messed up... someone told me to download the shortstring keyboard? (i think thats what its called) from the wiki.. or upgrade to the new 2.6rom so i did that and it worked
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] booda:
Bluetooth AS works fine for me with the new ROM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] xultar:
Go to wiki ...download the ext rom with the ShortString_Keypad_XML
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] fone_fanatic:
Or just go to the wiki and check out the registry tweaks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ckd:
Thank you both for the replies..

@fone_fanatic: As I said, already looked at the Wiki, changing the registry key for Layout corrects the symbols, but does NOT fix my problem.

@xultar: I _BELIEVE_ I already had already run that particular CAB from the ExtROM that comes with the Cingular 2.06 ROM, and while I'm quite willing to run it again,

a) Are there differences between versions, should I seek out ShortString_Keypad_XML from an earlier ROM?

b) I know in the ExtROM section of the Wiki there's a listing of the various ExtROMS and there contents, is there a description anywhere of what these CABs actually do?