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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
That's on Verizon lol it is so irritating though. I'm trying to remain optimistic because I really like the phone. People keep bashing it comparing it to rooted phones that have been debloated, greenified and tweaked.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
Could not agree more

Actually, I wouldnt update to lollipop for a while anyhow in hopes of holding out for roooooot
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
How many phones have not been rooted? In my personal experience every phone I've ever owned has eventually gotten root.

G1 (HTC dream)

HTC mytouch slide

Thunderbolt

Galaxy s4

I know there's probably a bunch of phones that haven't been rooted but are there any phones with high demand for root that have not been rooted?

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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] STEV307204:
OTA's are rolled out by carriers not OEM's so I take this news as a grain of salt. If it was a Verizon Rep then I would be souped.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] my2cents:
Maybe going to Lollipop can help with root? http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-9-root-chainfire-564138/

I know it has different specs, but just maybe...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
I feel the same way. Verizon is the ultimate decision maker which is why it makes sense that the Motorola rep said "waiting on Verizon to pick an advertisement" advertisements announce dates... So on so forth. Even if I have to wait it's okay because

I've got all. the. time. in. the. woorlddd. Don't you want some of ittt?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I1tEfPbC9c

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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Restola:
It would make sense for volte to be part of L. Why send two turbo otas when you can send one. But no one asks my opinion.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] CoreyWillWhat:
Oh hey [MENTION=2774395]my2cents[/MENTION]…look at us both over here from the spyder threads haha.

From what I've heard, root will be nearly impossible without unlocked bootloader on lollipop. Sadly, I'm not getting my hopes up for Turbo root on 5.0 unless we get bootloaders unlocked...again, seems unlikely
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
Just read this so maybe we won't get lollipop by dec 1.

http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/11/android-lollipop-rollout-may-delayed-due-battery-bug.html
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] civiksi:
they fixed it already

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...ght-be-on-hold-because-of-a-serious-wifi-bug/
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joshm.1219:
That's what they're supposed to do.

Yeah, with JCase saying that Sunshine V3.0 can't support Motorola on 4.4.4, and the secure kernel crap that will block root on Lollipop, I think this phone will stay stock unless a Chinese middleman pops up again or something.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] 123421342:
Guys just realize you can kiss any hope of an unlock and root exploit goodbye if you update. It's going to suck; either choose unlock or 5.0:(
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Character Zero:
I pretty much left root behind when I got the Turbo. Moved to the share plan so I don't need the hotspot hack. I used TiBu a lot moving from phone to phone and ROM to ROM but I really didn't have much data that I had to have. Mostly when I was listening to back catalogs of Podcasts I would want to restore the app I was using so it kept my place. Now I have moved on to something different. And I did lose some game data but it was stupid stuff like Temple Run and Monsters Ate My Condo, nothing like an RPG or something. And really thats what root did for me. I am ready for 5.0.

I also think that the 5.0 update will have VoLTE. Maybe they got Google to roll it into 5.0 so instead of hitting each device individually with a VoLTE update, if they get 5.0 they will also get VoLTE (and it brings the Nexus 6 on VoLTE faster as well).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rlb81:
What are you basing this on?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] 123421342:
Chainfires detailed post on how root will more than likely (read; definitely) going to need a custom kernel to work. Kernel flashes need an unlocked bootloader. 5.0 comes with even more selinux restrictions which make any kind of exploitation harder. All in all, 5.0 is way more locked down and harder to unlock. Simply getting a root exploit without unlock is not likely
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] volfan22:
I sure hope he's wrong. The Verizon Moto X has had it for like 2 weeks now. That would be some bull if we had to wait like 2 months longer than them...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rickybogo:
I had a 2014 Moto X for 5 weeks before the screen shattered from a 2 foot fall onto carpet, then got this phone, this all happened like 2 weeks ago.

Lollipop offered nothing. It changed some appearance stuff but really wasn't something that will change your life.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Found this: can anyone verify that soak tests for Lollipop have started on the Verizon Droid Turbo?

I think this guy was mistaking the Advanced Calling feature for lollipop, since this is 3 days old I'll call it irrelevant.

http://www.androidorigin.com/verizon-droid-turbo-lollipop-update-android-5-0-soak/
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] giant25:
Man, I had a Droid Bionic a long time ago and this whole thing seems very familiar...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kingersj1:
Here is my thoughts on the soak test. The update that rolled out last week might have been previously planned by Verizon. I have not heard of any of the "testers" getting a survey asking about the update. This leads me to believe that lollipop might still be coming soon. Now this is all on speculation, with not being familiar with the whole process.

Sent from my Turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
You haven't heard because they were told to keep it private.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Dude, Lollipop was released a month ago.

Have patience.

Nothing in this phone is similar to the Bionic debacle.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
Funny how that link the Creator of that page changes up the words. I went to the source linked in the bottom from droid life which clearly says that it could be lollipop and this guy says it's out already. Maybe he wants more people to view his website lol.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
this post was poorly written its not even funny. The date the is shows was the date for the advance calling update. Its wrong.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] giant25:
TBD...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] uribees:
The soak test was for Advanced Calling, not for Lollipop.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
That can be said of any device.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jaime3344:
When will my phone get Android Lollipop? Android L upgrade news

I hope the above article is right! It says by the end of 2014!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
Dude we will get it when its ready. Instead of posting another post that is all over this thread, read the thread.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jaime3344:
It is? I see nothing posted about this article from 2 days ago here? I've read the whole thread, maybe you should before attacking a post made just to keep the hopes up for people who want the update!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
If you read the past 2 pages its a speculation. Not attacking. All you have to do is read. There is no set time on when lollipop will be released. It will be released when its ready. Instead of asking read the thread first. your same post was posted by a few others. Another thing is your asking for an update on an ETA. A rule in XDA is not to ask for ETA. Even though no one knows when. All you have to do is sit back, enjoy your phone for what it is now, and W.A.I.T
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jaime3344:
You make no sense- I did not ask for anything- all I did was post the name of an article from 2 days ago, that was mentioned nowhere in this thread. If anything, it's a relevant post for this thread- "hints at Lollipop release date". Yes. we are all waiting, might as well post something that might be hopeful when I see it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
There is no eta and it is not out yet. If it was, there would be something posted. Asking the obvious won't give the answer desired unless that desired answer is "we do not know". Watch the thread, it will be updated when more info is found.

/thread
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jaime3344:
Really? Did you read my posts? Where did I ask a question? Read my previous post again, maybe it will sink in this time??
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
The first sentence and I quote When will the update be. with a question mark. If your trying to post a link it be better that way. the way you posted it was a question

I believe this is what you meant, and again this post is just a guess not even fact. Anyone can say oh motorola says this.

http://www.androidpit.com/android-5-0-lollipop-phone-update-news
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] huntb:
Do you have a link to the article? Your first post makes it look like you are asking when you will get it. How was anyone supposed to know that was the name of an article you read...?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Sorry. thought you were more versed in the Internet to figure out how links are posted.

Rude reply for yours, tit for tat.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jaime3344:
Yes that is the name of the article- sorry it didn't come up as a link- but I say right below it: "the above article" . I do realize it's only speculation, but it hadn't been posted here yet, and it's more current information relating to a possible release time frame of Lollipop. I know we all have to be patient and wait for it, but why not post relevant/hopeful things here to keep people that want the update excited about it? Merry Christmas- maybe we'll have Lollipop by then!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
i did see that but some people would have assumed that you asked the question. Have a good christmas :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jaime3344:
Sorry Guys! It must be a bug in my Turbo!Lol- I clicked copy as link- but apparently it didn't.:eek:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LaRocKa1158:
Stressful time

Hey, its a stressful time for us all (waiting for the update). We cant let it tear us apart
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] txboinks:
Christmas

Maybe it will be a Christmas gift from Verizon and Motorola.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
Knowing Verizon I doubt it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChrisMAXX:
Jesus... Keep it together! When its ready , we will get it! Lots of people reporting apps are not working well with lollipop as it is , and its still very new. I like new software just as much as everyone else does , but I like it to be stable as well.

Be patient, grasshopper...

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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] my2cents:
I see what you did right there! Merry Christmas to you too! :p
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cstone1991:
You must have clicked Copy Link Text instead of Copy Link Address. I've done it plenty of times. No harm no fowl.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mathab:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/12/19/android-5-0-1-update-moto-g-2nd-gen/

The more devices motorola update the more I get excited, this means we're closer to be the next on the list. :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhouse1983:
Rant

OK a slight rant here and before you read let me put up a disclaimer: I'm not super obsessed about lollipop or android to the point my whole life revolves around something that's not nearly as important as say my job or my wife or world hunger BUT.......

Is the Droid Turbo not a flagship phone? I can understand the Moto x pure edition and maybe vzw version going first but then I see the Moto G and the UK version of the Moto X and all these other phones except the Turbo. WHY? Why are we waiting when we dished out the money for a flagship phone (yes I understand Verizon only and I don't think this is Verizon's fault either)? Is the Turbo not important to Moto? Is Moto not the one that got the Nexus 6 and maybe had Lollipop before other OEM's? Why haven't we even heard a dropling of news about when either? Wasn't that the point of the page that Motorola put up to help us know when the update could be coming? I just can't understand why a phone with this kind of specs and advertising and flagshipness has not gotten Lollipop or any sort of news about it. Again, I have more important things in my life but the longer we wait the more I wonder if I made a mistake with this phone. My expectations weren't that we would get immediately but to me come Christmas there's no way we get it until after the New Year if not later into January. I love the Turbo and it runs smooth as hell and I may regret Lollipop but at least treat this phone like a flagship Motorola.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
You have a point but then again the Moto g and x are much more sold than the turbo, Along with that also over in Europe is much less hassle to update since Motorola doesn't have to make much agreements with carriers like here in the US. Verizon being The carrier that tales longest to update phones no matter what.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
The answer regarding the "G" s is rather obvious: prepaids get their updates ditectly from Moto.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] neur0tk:
Patience is a great virtue it will be here eventually! This phone is still beast on 4.4
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhouse1983:
That makes sense. OK then. Welp. *throws in towel after petty rant*

Hows everyone like their turbo? :D
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Ally Android:
This is true. My guess is that Moto has already passed the update for the Turbo to Verizon and now we are waiting on them to modify to their liking. IE: Add a bunch of bloatware we will disable as soon as we can.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Isn't the bloat already on the phone? Do u really think they need to add more? I would be incredibly shocked if I found additional applications with the update.. But maybe you mean they need to add the SAME bloat from KitKat on to lollipop, that's the only thing that makes sense to me

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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Ally Android:
In most cases, it will be the same bloat. But there have been a couple of times where they added more. And once, they actually removed an app but I think they may have just replaced it with another one or merged two apps.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] HOFFABALBOA:
Just Saying.

Before Verizon gets the Lollipop 5.0 Every other carrier will be on the next Version of Android:confused: Just saying.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] m4rk0358:
I'm not sure what you're getting at seeing that less than 5% of phones across all carriers are on Lollipop.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] HOFFABALBOA:
Well call me the fool. I was On Lollipop 6 months ago on my Razr Hd. Granted Unlocked Bootloader and Custom recovery.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
You were on a garbage hacked developer preview you mean. You were not on anything close to final.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Name the differences...

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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Seriously?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] revolt1:
don't let him get to you he probably doesn't know

by the way loved your kernels on the nexus lol
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] krabman:
If I'm running Motorola my resources go into giving the most love to the most people I can as soon as I can. Everyone wants the update but with a limited pool of resources to provide it common sense says the first device to get it helps the most people and on down the line from there. I looked for numbers to back this theory up but could not find specific sales numbers for the various devices however it does appear that this concept holds water based on their rollout so far and the relative popularity of the devices Motorola sells.

Honestly gents everybody and their brother has run lollipop, it isn't that big a deal unless your greatest concern is eye candy. In that case you really need it because it adds a lot of nifty bullcrap that people like me disable a few hours after installing lollipop. Hang in there folks, lollipop isn't the second coming and once you have it you are going to see that it isn't something you were going to be willing to give up sex over. Not saying its bad, its good but it isn't worth worrying over.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
This is an educational forum is it not? I'm making a legitimate request to name the differences and I can't think of a better person to ask... I cant direct my own thread to provide some relatively useful info?

Visuals look the same to me... Performance is still better than Kit Kat

Im 100% positive theres differences that probably only a Dev could answer off the top of his or her head.

Misinterpretation aside, the question still stands....

What are the differences between a ported lollipop and the lollipop that I will receive on my Droid Turbo, bug fixes excluded (obviously)...

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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChrisMAXX:
Its like a moody cat fight up in Hurr... Lol

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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Steve One:
That was a great explanation, I really like the last paragraph.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joshm.1219:
I would've just told them to Google, but that was an awesome post.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Gundabolu SC:
Droid Turbo bootloader is LOCKED so no option of "PORTING" a rom!

Even if its unlocked and one manages to port CM12 then you loose almost all the features that make this phone unique- No active display, no wave to silence, no attentive display, no Touchless control... One word no Moto Goddies!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
I want lollipop, but the reality is that I can wait patiently because:

Some of the coolest features Lollipop has, we have already

We will not see any real performance difference, because the hardware is strong. Lollipop performance differences are seen in older devices, not 805s

It is more bug ridden than Kitkat, apps are less compatible.

I mostly want it for the theme, and that is mostly because it is something new. I am not expecting huge differences past that, however.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Sareniah:
Everyone posting towards patience has my mindset.

When I wish for an update, I wish for it at its best state. If you would have looked at every Apple iOS release relatively recently they have all had compatibility and battery issues, and that was for devices that are made by the company who build the operating system. So, as long as I can have my Nova launcher, my apps I use, my "moto goodies", and my customizability, I will wait. I will wait for a root. I will wait for Lollipop. I will wait for fixes to the issues that should have been there launch date.

However, I will check back here daily in hopes that its come through. We will all hope for what is to come, but some of us as developers, whether for Windows, Mac, iOS, Android, or Linux, we know what an unfinished product will do to a product. I am not looking for devastation with my Droid Turbo.

(This coming from someone who switched from Apple products as of Nov 2014)

You all have a great day.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Im not sure how easily this would have been found compiled somewhere on Google until now... Gracias.

Also

Im sorry that your assumptions fall ill, but the post is still great!

I had no clue that these ports were even running ART - Still learning runtimes

Based on what youve said that sounds like complete Garbage crapping on top of Garbage.

I guess the ports and stuff are completely irrelevant considering we dont have unlocked bootloader and will get L before that...

To contribute to putting the thread back on track - heres the latest (unuseful) lollipop release hint:

http://www.androidorigin.com/motorola-droid-turbo-lollipop-update-android-5-0/

AndroidOrigin says probably not till January - added a tiny background on Motorola and Verizon update habits.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cyberr8der:
Same here. I know 2 hours after having it I'll be bored with it. Hoping for a good outcome as far as battery improvement but I've read mixed reviews and am convinced if there is any improvement it will be minimal. Seems to be a googles always wanting to know everything about what I'm doing and where I am that causes most of the wakelocks I have.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Character Zero:
I like the notification shade a little better in Lollipop. But like you said, the apps have been updated, Nova will give you most of the look. But its something new an shiny.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] donsmith1964:
Google is still rapidly releasing maintenance updates to lollipop. It is clearly not ready. In not sure why they rushed it. I have seen 5.0.1 and even 5.0.2 out there. I'm not sure what 5.0.2 brings. I would like a stable version when we get it also.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wireproof:
I actually have those disabled. Am I the only person who doesn't care for those features? I love simplicity, sometimes to the extreme but I never use any of the Motorola features. If I loose turbo charging capability (assuming software is required for it as well as hardware) then that's my only deal breaker for CM12.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] prking07:
I absolute have no interest in them and were the first things i disabled on my Moto Maxx.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Gundabolu SC:
Active control is something I cannot live without.... My OCD can probably ruin my power button if I keep pressing it all the time to check for notifications... How else do u guys know when you have a notification with active display disabled? And using the IR sensors to just wave n see for notifications is just like magic for people when they see me doing it... I love all the moto features... :D Assist, Touch less control.. Connect....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wireproof:
Haha I'm very OCD but my screen turns on when I don't wave which I don't like and I think the screen is on (I always froget about the AMOLED screen) but I'm always texting (don't judge haha)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
There's no way I could disable active display and the reach to display. I had a g2 and got very used to not using the power button. The reach is even better then double tap to wake. I love the moto features. Moto voice is also extremely useful while driving.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Artnig:
Been outta the loop for a while.... can't believe that 5.0 is not out yet.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cyberr8der:
I know right. All the other phones have it already..... Just go back out of the loop for a bit and you should have it by your next visit lol
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Artnig:
Yeah lol, I'm gonna crawl back under a rock and hope its here when I surface. I honestly nearly forgot about the update just because this phone is so good already.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] :
I've turned all my moto stuff off as well, I've seen no different in charging not unless I didn't shut something off.

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