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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Mfun98:
Sorry for the false hope just desperate for root and I'm willing to entertain any options at this point
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
I understand believe me.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
I'm in the same boat

sent from my handcuffed xt1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
I log in and every time i see this thread get bumped i hope the latest entry is do this and send me my money
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LifeAsADroid:
So you're not disappointed...

DO THIS: Go into your wallet, and pull out a hundred dollar bill.

Send me that hundred dollar bill.

;)

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The best option at this point is to go sell your Turbo and buy an unlockable phone, something not made by Moto that is sold on Verizon (except for the Nexus whale).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bfromcali:
For anyone wondering, i went ahead with the update. Can report that simultaneous data and voice is working fine. Keep in mind the feature first needs to be turned on manually once after the update. Feels much better to not have data dropped when a call comes in.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
I also took the update but haven't tried voice and data yet. Is that for all calls or does the other person have to have the "enhanced calling " also like the Volte does?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bfromcali:
All calls. Seems to be independent of the VoLTE component. At any rate, simultaneous call and data seems to be for all calls. Seems you have to turn on Advanced Calling in Setting, though.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BladeRunner:
$20 for root or $30 for a boot loader unlock with the caveat that if the root/unlock is a fee for use my pledge goes to $0
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bkeaver:
im in for $20.00 for root.

Not having root is an issue with my tasker stuff. I can't control my NFC or GPS without it. I don't think I have ever went this long without atleast root on any device I have had :( and I don't know how people do without.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] skmpowdjy:
If you're so desperate for root that you're going to download malware, get another phone. If root is your main factor to consider when getting a new phone, wait a few months after a phone's release and check XDA to make sure it's been achieved. If not, move on and don't buy the phone "expecting" it.

Personally, I think the Droid Turbo is an excellent phone without root, considering you can disable 98% of bloatware out of the box, clear cache, and then have stock Android. There's options to turn off WiFi notifications (unlike Sense) and everything, unlike a lot of other manufacturer skins. Literally the only thing I would do with root is remove the boot up sound. If you can't live without xposed or Cyanogenmod, get another phone and come back to the Turbo if it ever does get rooted so you can be happy with it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bkeaver:
who is this directed at? who is saying their not happy with it? and as far as malware what exactly are you referring as malware exactly??
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] skmpowdjy:
Not directed at anyone in particular, but there was that sketch website people were buying into just because they wanted root and they'd try anything.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bkeaver:
ok gotcha :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] skmpowdjy:
Haha, sorry, I noticed you posted right above me and I didn't mean to make it look like I was talking about you!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
Yeah to be honest now that I've had the phone for about a week or so root would be nice of course but I could certainly live without it with this phone. I think I'd rather have the Turbo stock then anything else rooted because seriously this thing is a pure BEAST LOL. But my PC at work has a very high security setting and lots of times it will show something is a threat when it really isn't. Its really sensitive LOL But in this case it probably was malware. Honestly Idk of many things I would use root for with this phone. I guess root just gets to be like a security blanket. You get so used to having it that you still want it even if you don't really need it.

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Oh and about the boot sound. It annoyed me too. But for some strange reason after I took the update my boot animation doesn't have sound anymore. Idk if that was intentional or not with the update but I'm not complaining. LOL
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
Anybody seen this? Prob BS but just wondering.

http://gadgetunlocker.com/root-verizon-motorola-droid-turbo-xt1225-twrp-recovery/
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
One of these things is not like the other....

Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo XT1225
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] btreu1:
I also ended up taking the update, but I do have boot sound. It's actually a pretty cool sound that sort of harkens back to the days of old droids, without being too obnoxiously "DROOOIIIIIID." Don't get me wrong, I always liked the old DROID tone, perhaps especially because it felt like the DROID tone was a direct FU response to Apples soft fairy bells tones (which I have to admit, some are pleasant). But, I digress... There's a nice subtle, hum (for lack of a better term- think quiet lightsaber) sound at the end of the animation, that I think is meant to call to mind both the droids of yore, and Star Wars... Just my 2 cents.

Here's a video of the boot animation with new sound: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXmYjmsbewE
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
Check step for here is what it says lol its a scam...

Now disconnect your device from your PC and boot into recovery, to do so: first switch off your device and press Volume Up+Power until you see

Sony logo

on the screen.

It says sony logo. lol dont fall for it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
Well I thought it was cool too but the only reason it got on my nerves was doing stuff to my phone at work and rebooting it. I work in a quiet office and the boot sound was kinda loud. So it sounded REALLY loud in here LOL

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OMG! LMAO "Sony" I sooo missed that! :laugh:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
Number one rule for rooting and modding "reading" everything!. Yeah those are the mixed steps of sony and i think lg but i could be wrong. its a joke
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
I certinaly would have read it more carefully if I was going to try it. But I should have looked at it better before I posted it. "Feeling stupid" :silly: LOL
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
Like i said in a previous post. Ignore all other post like this from outside sources and just look on XDA. If and when root comes it will be known here first.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
I second this statement, I've been with XDA for over 5 years and if any news is available, it will be here on this thread or a new thread. Guaranteed.

P.S. if something smells like fish, just look at the posters seniority and post-count, thanks-count, etc.

Sent from my XT1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
I been on XDA for about 5 years also. I know my account doesnt show it. Started new accounts. left came back. that type stuff. It its true though. same thing happened with towelroot was announced on the xda forums then news got out and was displayed on other forums, but xda is also the go to forum.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LifeAsADroid:
Speaking of fish, where is that tool from pages back who said he had a guaranteed method to root this phone? LOL
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mdav07:
I was thinking the same thing lol
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] hobbit19:
http://www.fredericb.info/2014/12/qpsiir-80-qualcomm-trustzone-integer.html

bootloader unlock
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dmbtech:
I would assume we need root to take advantage of that
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
How do we apply that

sent from my handcuffed xt1254

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After some research it seems this had been addressed by qualcomm. Let's hope that's wrong and this device was somehow released without that patched up.

sent from my handcuffed xt1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Now I'm worried that I updated... crap effin crap
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TMYINC:
Rooting always voids your warranty! :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] AndyMan386:
Unrooting always makes your warranty magically come back though!! :D
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rotorocker:
$50 unlocked bootloader/$25 root access
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
Updated with the latest numbers
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] crzayalex:
Count me in! $15 for unlock bootloader, $10 for root.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
I'll pay 25 for root access. So worth it!

Sent from my XT1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] allenrb2:
I'm in for the same amounts:

$25/$25 payable when it's proven to work. $40/$40 if this gets done before Thanksgiving.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BladeRunner:
A) no because, even if it had cdma which it won't, Verizon will only activate Verizon "branded"

B) not likely as it the international version would likely have the same boot loader. If moto wants it unlocked the it will be via a code, which Verizon phones have as well but they aren't released.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ahaynes42:
I'll throw in $50 bootloader/$25 unlock
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] HOFFABALBOA:
I'm throwing up $25 for each root and bootloader unlock.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rgerrans:
I'm in for $20 each
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
$25/$25
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
Updated.

Also, for now at least, this is only for the VERIZON version of the phone. If we see there is demand for the upcoming international, we can do a seperate bounty for that phone.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gcng:
Get me in! $25/$25
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bfromcali:
pledge

$5 bootloader, $5 root. Also $5 for standalone hotspot mod/hack.

Thanks.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bennyficial:
As an update/addition to my bounty pledge, I also would contribute $20 towards a pool to get a dev this phone. (AFAIK it can be just regular users that have this phone)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] danger2u:
20 euro for root
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] loudaccord:
I wonder if anyone is actually working on this?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] CoreyWillWhat:
Wondering the same.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wolfgart:
[MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] ....

But he don't think this Bounty can be right solution because Final payment is always not confirmed from bidders.

Only solution should be that OP pickup all money and then contact him
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
I'd smash it and go right to Verizon

sent from my handcuffed xt1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Just might do that - they probably have un-updated phones

- Is it crazy to think that they would updated any phones made AFTER the update... and is it crazy to assume that they would cycle through a whole batch of phones already?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dmbtech:
Before you do that try that check to see if downgrading woth fxz downgrades bootloader!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] MonkeyMouth:
Actually some employees update when they sign you up. I watched in fear when the updated my Ultra right in front of me. Took off the plastic guard too. I felt like my phone raped before my eyes.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
If a Verizon rep did any of that to me I'd walk out

sent from my handcuffed xt1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
My Verizon rep threw my box away..... yea... took the phone out, ripped the screen protector off, grabbed the charger and threw the box away with the instructions and everything pretty.

I wasnt about to make a scene - but wtf??

How can i check to see if the bootloader is downgraded and do FXZ
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dmbtech:
Well you can always tell them not to update the phone, they can't read your mind... Most people are going to want it updated
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
Still hoping we get some instructions for implementing this possible vulnerability? Some evidence of it working...

Anything...

sent from my handcuffed xt1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dmbtech:
Basically download and follow http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/orig-development/original-recovery-firmware-images-t2929737, use rsd lite or included batch file to downgrade. Then boot into fastboot mode and see if the BL version is downgraded, the original bootloader version was "moto-apq8084-70.3A (sha-0399c2f, 2014-09-24 12:22:13)"

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Hmm I do wonder though, maybe Jcase/Beanups can comment on this, if trustzone is a part of the bootloader or one of the other security partitions on the device.

And for those that are wondering.

1) Just because a vulnerability has been disclosed does not mean we can exploit it to unlock the bootloader

2) It will take time and research, it was just disclosed a couple days ago. Most people looking into the vulnerability are not going to post until they have reasonable proof that it works.

3) Taking advantage of this vulnerability most likely requires root, which as far as I know does not exist for android 4.4.4 (Or motorola variation)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mdav07:
Somebody asked jcase on twitter an he said "not even worth looking at till root"
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] tdetroit:
Please remove my pledge(s). Returned the Turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mjc2251:
Does anybody know if the vulnerability being discussed was in fact patched in the VOLTE update?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] aviwdoowks:
FYI:

The bootloader cannot be downgraded and you can easily cause a brick in trying.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=57574431&postcount=10

At least on the X/Ultra. Is there any evidence the newer Moto's are different?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ford freak:
$20 and $20
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bogedy:
could someone enlighten me as to how developer go about finding weird ways to root phones? like on previous phones, how do developers go about doing it?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
tedious studying of the binary codes used within the system. Capability to recognize certain branches of the code that are open for editing (with root access)

If you think about it - theres so much coding done within the system, and by so many different people at difference times, its all about finding some human error within the coding - with a handful of experienced Devs its only a matter of time until some exploit is determined - since its virtually impossible for Google to try and find every possible aspect of the code to prevent some sort of loophole - the best they can do is roll out updates as security threats are found - hence the whole reason for security updates.

I think it will be really difficult for someone to just hop-in and try to root a device (i tried) but the best tools and skillsets to posses for this task are knowledge and recognition of the binary code, a dedicated device to test on, and lat but not least, time..

I have never rooted a phone - this is the best perspective i have of it - Im sure a dev can answer your question more fully, and hopefully correct me if im wrong. I really dont know for sure, but Im pretty sure its all very similar to local root exploits used within Linux... (android is linux as far as i know...)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Here is my typical attack.

I first obtain firmware for the device (system pull at minimum, full firmware package if available).

I unpack the ramdisk from both recovery and the boot images, and then I use a script to disassemble every jar/apk.

I then check for recent know vulnerabilities, as well as private ones I am sitting on.

I then a tool I made that searches for common types of vulnerabilities, and i go do something else. I come back to a list of possibilities, and then manually check each one.

Next I check each application that runs as an elevated user (system, radio etc), manually by hand. I review the bytecode of each application by hand, looking for abusable faults.

I then move to scripts on /system for abusable faults.

Then I go through the scripts and configurations in the boot and recovery ram disk.

After that I move to binaries that run may be ran by root or another elevated user, reviewing what they run as, what they do, and how they work.

By thing point I typically have a vulnerability or two that might be abusable.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jal3223:
We can downgrade to the update that was available on day one, just not the shipped package.

Source: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=57460103
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Was I close? Haha

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Is this because someone with 21.21.12 hasnt posted an image file of it? Or because we can only roll back to OTAs?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jal3223:
I'm pretty sure it is just because an FXZ of.12 has not been released.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] seave:
The FXZ's are released from Motorola correct? I am still on .12. Is there a way I can help out? How do i do a system dump? Not a Dev, but can follow directions well.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnwaug:
I also am still on .12 and will help as needed. Haven't seen anything in the update that interested me yet.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jimmyjjohn:
I will put up $60 for boot loader unlock /$40 for root access.

:cowboy:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gebi0001:
Unlock

MOD EDIT

There is never any need to quote the whole OP [MENTION=3843529]gregbradley[/MENTION]

Hi, how can I unlock the bootloader on the Droid Turbo ??
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Steve One:
Wow
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
Dude you ask this same question in 3 different threads. instead of asking read through the threads.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LifeAsADroid:
It's a fairly easy process:

Step one - Remove the back cover of your Turbo (you may need to pry it off with a screwdriver, some of them are on very tight).

Step two - Take out the "bootloader locking chip" (black square attached to the motherboard). It needs to be pried off with needle-nose pliers. Take care not to damage anything else in the process.

Step three - Glue the back cover of your Turbo onto the phone again. Don't worry about looks, a case will cover any mistakes.

Step four - Report back how it went.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gebi0001:
Thanks for the answer. I did remove the cover,etc on my Photon Q, but this looks much more complicated and the phone price is much higher. I will wait for some other solution.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] beaups:
Quoted just in case an edit comes along.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Gundabolu SC:
LOL!!! I pity you my child... Such innocence.... :) Hard to find these days... :D :D
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] redeyes717:
wtf.. he's the bounty winner, do doubts.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
I almost spit out my coffee reading this!!!!

No, this is the ONLY solution, ever..

ps- will update the actual point of this thread (post #1) later this week.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LifeAsADroid:
LOL, glad someone thought to get that written permanently ;)

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Don't worry about it, there's no need to fear damaging the phone. If the cover doesn't come off smooth you can just take the phone back to Verizon and explain to them that you dropped it and need it covered under the 1-year warranty. I did this with the first Turbo I tried unlocking, the second one was very straightforward with removing the cover.

Give it a shot tonight and keep us all updated as to how it's going. This really is the only way to do it, it's called the "hardware-unlock" method. There is no software-unlocking method out there, everyone has already tried everything. These phones are locked down tight. You have to actually remove the locking mechanism (that small black square I referenced before).

Good luck!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
Y’all are hilarious! :laugh: Mean but hilarious! LMAO :D
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mdav07:
I cant stop laughing. Thank you guys for brightening up my morning.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cstone1991:
No no no! Do not use this method you will certainly damage the phone. Only a trained locksmith should attempt unlocking your bootloader. They will use one of those airbag things that they pump up to remove the back cover then they will make the required key to unlock the latch on the chip so it can be removed easily without prying. Don't bother calling them first, just show up. They know Verizon is listening and they can have a locksmith's license suspended for unlocking unauthorized phones (like this one). When you go in, they might play dumb so just be persistent, eventually they will know you aren't a Verizon spy. They will ask you the official security question upon arrival, which is of course "How can I help you?". Your response must be "I cannot reach completion without you."

Hope it helps.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
"Verizon spy" ROTFL :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lithium630:
I shouldn't admit to this in writing. In high school (many years ago now)I got a new job selling and installing tires. One of the guys explained to me that if we did not have the correct size tire in stock, I needed to call for the rim stretcher to stretch the wheels to the correct size. I wish I could saw I instantly caught on. Somehow this seemed relevant.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Slickademo:
Oh my.... You guys are terrible hahahahah I can't believe what I'm reading. I wonder if this method works on all phones? ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LifeAsADroid:
It works on all phones [MENTION=6266476]gebi0001[/MENTION] owns ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] daweim0:
Now that were on hardware based "exploits", I have a question.

Lets assume for a moment that the turbo has a built in JTAG interface (a reasonable assumption seeing that they need to do hardware testing somehow. I have yet to see one in a teardown though). If there is a jtag interface then the flash IC is probably accessible, and it also probably has boundary scan abilities. Shouldn't we be able to write arbitrary data to flash memory using the boundary scan whether the bootloader is locked or not?

If were lucky maybe there will be a bootloader locking chip in there...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Cpt. Cellular:
My MAIN priority for desiring ROOT status is AD BLOCKING, just as much as wanting superuser access overrall. I had it on my HTC Amaze4G and within the first 10 minutes of firing up my new DT with Verizon, I was reminded of how much I like root access. YEP. Somebody PLEASE make this happen.