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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LeoD:
Let me know how you feel after you get a DUI and need a lawyer to keep you out of jail. Or if you are the victim of a drunk driver and need a lawyer to fight with an insurance company so that you can get a decent settlement to pay your medical bills and lost wages due to the accident the drunk driver caused.

Or if your wife divorces you and wants full custody of the kids, full ownership of the house and 1/2 of your income for the rest of your life and you need a lawyer to get a reasonable marital settlement and custody order out of her.

Actually this wouldn't be a bad deal for me. I pay more staying married.

Or if the IRS is coming after you for taxes you don't owe and you need a lawyer to prevent them from levying your bank account and seizing your assets.

Or if you have an employee who steals your business's trade secrets and you need to take action against them.

And so on and so on and so on.

But But But there are laws to prevent this aren't there?

lol sorry I just had to!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cstone1991:
The law to which you are referring is the Magnuson-Moss Act. It is a Federal act in the US and therefore the state in which you live has absolutely nothing to do with it. It protects users with respect to warranties provided by the manufacturer only, not by any third party provider which would include Verizon and Assurion or any other cellphone insurance/warranty provider.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
I just scanned it and I am not finding that provision in there. What section are you referring to?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] WaltA:
The Magnuson-Moss Act allows third parties to do routine maintenance without voiding your warranty. Before that act, if you had someone other than the car dealer change your oil, or replace your wiper blades, the manufacturer could (and many times did) void your warranty. I am not sure what routine maintenance would be for a cell phone (swapping out the battery?).

The Magnuson-Moss Act also allows manufacturer to

completely void

the warranty if there is any evidence of abuse. I know for vehicles, case law has established that off-roading or racing is such abuse. I am not familiar on how abuse is defined for cell phones. Though, it would not surprise me that anything from putting the phone thru the washer, to bricking the software might be considered abuse.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dmbtech:
Has anyone tried http://xdaforums.com/droid-ultra/general/droid-mini-maxx-ultra-root-pogress-100-t3071609 or http://xdaforums.com/droid-ultra/general/droid-mini-maxx-ultra-root-pogress-100-t3071609 (for better instructions) on the turbo yet?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Harry44:
Will not work, the only root method for the turbo is mofo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dmbtech:
Whats the technical reason why it won't? Maybe we (or me) can make it work?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] panshz:
??

Good afternoon i request help to make downgrade to my moto maxx version of brazil the detail dont free bootloader before to make the process now pass to motorola logo to try free the bootloader marks Enable OEM Unlock in Developer Options. Any idea to try fix or resolve this?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] r3pwn:
Let me state something first: If you attempt to downgrade a Motorola device, it will not work and you will have a difficult time repairing it.

If you still want to unlock your bootloader, you have to turn the device on, go to the Settings app, go to "About Phone" and tap "Build Number" seven times. Then go back to the main Settings menu and open the new "Developer Options" menu. Scroll down until you find the "Enable OEM Unlock" option and make sure it is enabled. You can then try to go back and unlock your bootloader again.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] panshz:
The detail is that I can not enter the android system recovery can only enter
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
What are you doing to try to enter recovery? Can you get into bootloader mode?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] panshz:
Yes but the bootloader is not unlocked and let me do it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
he is saying he has the n6 bootloop, unless im missing something.

as in, he had an unlocked bl, did the lollerpop update, and for whatever reason, did the oem lock and now is bootlooping. maybe i am wrong.

on another note, i just watched a video of an xt1225 being downgraded back to KK from lollipop, ( https://youtu.be/iFSz6tcDFec) so i wouldnt say its not possible. just in your case, if i am perceiving what you are saying correctly, its not going to work for a totally different reason.

my friend, if i am correct, about your only option is a Return Merchandise Authorization through Motorola. (referred to as an RMA). The Nexus 6 owners (same phone despite what many say) have the same issue on Lollipop. Some from not checking the unlock bootloader option, some for no good reason at all. it is bad.

the upgrade to security is proving to be the downfall of amazing devices. there is a thread for the nexus 6 and that issue. bad thing is the only practical way to fix it will never happen, so Moto is going to waste a bunch of time and money RMA'ing phones. glad to know the Turbo is likely susceptible once on Lollipop, though. the fix: moto release a signed file that manually force unlocks bootloader. boom. THOUSANDS of dollars saved. youre welcome moto. ;) now give us the file and we will start fixing these peoples phones for free. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcdiddi:
Lollipop - Unlock bootloader in developer options???

Hey guys... This is from the soak test.

I just got the update, and there is an option in developer options to allow bootloader unlocking. Maybe we should just wait a few weeks until we get lollipop... :)

It won't let me post links, so I can't really add any pictures of proof. Sorry.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
That is a setting for all of lollipop..
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
And did nothing on the moto E 2015 (verizon variant) but we can hope
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Kienan:
$100 for unlocked bootloader only. That's what I'm interested in right now.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] s_u_n:
Details about CVE-2015-3636 (kernel vulnerability which gives root) are shared here: https://www.blackhat.com/docs/us-15/materials/us-15-Xu-Ah-Universal-Android-Rooting-Is-Back.pdf

I think there will be an exploit like TowelRoot in some time.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] burmjohn:
Another link: https://github.com/lovelydream/Univ...Is-Back/raw/master/slides/BHUSA-15-Wen-Xu.pdf
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
yes. winter is coming.

lol.

also, as a joke, though I will pay it, $20 for bootloader unlock unless Mofo does it in the near future. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] siberian85:
Hey is this is going to happen how much we have to collect how this works
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TigerCourage:
100€ for the bootloader unlocked!!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] charklos:
me want

I'm in for $20/$20
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] EmpyreanDraco:
I'd like to pledge $20 across the board
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] macmachine87:
I'm in for 20/20.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] fecht:
I'm in for 20/20
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
Updated

And thanks for getting this thread back on track... bounty talk only :) Makes my life a lot easier not having to scroll through unrelated posts trying not to miss anything.

Also, to reclarify / reconfirm, I AM NOT COLLECTING any contributions.

This is the 'honor' system... you pay when someone is ready to claim the bounty and proves his work. I'm not holding money in trust for anyone.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RyanRacer48:
25/50 Unlock

25 for root 50 for boot loader.

Not buying the phone until this hits as wifi tether is a must.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] msricks:
I never post/reply on xda ... hopefully doing this right.

$25 root $25 bootloader

Thanks!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ndd53:
$25 for root.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wolfgart:
XDA bounties have left a bad taste in mounth for most devs.

I don't think all stuff for Droid Turbo and others will be released here using this method...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] fix-this!:
Your only hope is sunshine and the devs who created it. Id assume IF they do this they will wait for the lollipop update.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Smokuevo:
Lollipop update can only make root avail 1000% harder so either happens now on 4.4.4 or maybe never (:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] windraver:
Had this issue on the Moto G Verizon. Write protection combined with a bootloader that searches for write protection basically prevents both from occurring. Other companies allow bootloader unlock so the Moto G then gets picked up for root but no development occurs for bootloader unlock as only verizon users have this issue.

Taking this into account, the turbo is the latest variant from moto so it will certainly have Write protection and a locked bootloader along with any exploits for 4.4.4 patched prior to shipping or quickly patched.

All the above are based on my experience and understanding and may not be completely accurate. feel free to correct me if necessary.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] danger2u:
put me with 30 euro for unlocked bootloader
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] protivakid:
The Turbo has nice specs but I had to go with the LG G3. I was turned off that to root my Photon Q I had to put the phone in developer mode using motorola's site and unlock the boot loader which gave a nice warning at each boot. No other root method for past phones I had required using a website to get an unlock key. The G3 is already rooted by the community and was $150 less for similar specs.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jfriend33:
Ok... But rooting or unlocking the bootloader both void the warranty... So to say the lg is better is inaccurate. It has a menu that states it's been modified....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TeslaZap:
Toss me in at $25/$25
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dluxx06:
Put me in for $20 each
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wolfgart:
go guys !

we must incentivate other Devs working here.

A great Bounty amount here for you !!!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] 123421342:
For me, I would like a custom rom based on stock. More features, bettery battery life, but still the good moto features. Plus, I would like xposed and greenify to further modify it and enhance the battery life.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Artnig:
This but with AdAway
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Root has been achieved, but no bounty was paid out. Why should developers believe that anything will be paid out if they unlock the bootloader?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] fernamx1:
Root achieved? You mean Mofo? That wasn't root. That was a walk around, but not actual root. Besides, 20 bucks each "walk around", was paid enough for the Mofo guys.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
That walk around lets you flash a rooted ROM. Therefore it gives you root. And yes, I know that system is only read only, but in most cases that doesn't matter as long as you're clever enough (and Google savvy enough) to figure out how to modify the images pre-flash. Yeah, I get that it makes it more okay since he's charging for it, but nowhere in the bounty rules did it say that the finished product had to be free.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ganggreen30:
Sorry but your an I...t
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
That's a very strong case for your argument. I'm an I...t (I'm assuming this means idiot, which is confusing because I'm not sure why that word needs to be censored. Did someone make that a curse word recently?). Therefore it's totally okay for no root bounty to be paid out for a root method. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I don't really care since I'm not a developer and also not willing to contribute to a bounty. I'm just saying that hypothetically speaking, if I were a dev that was motivated by money and I saw that another dev who provided a root method didn't get anything, I wouldn't have high hopes for getting anything after providing a bootloader unlock method.

PS If you're going to call someone an idiot, make sure you use the correct spelling of "you're" when you do it. Otherwise someone might think that you're, well, an idiot.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] platypied50:
I guess it's a judgement call, but charging for Mofo implied to me that they were not relying on a bounty. They procured a way to charge those who used it - probably the fairest way to handle it anyway. There is a lot less uncertainty. They always get paid for the fruits of their ingenuity. Did any of them come to this thread and request the bounty? Was there an issue? Personally, I only read notices of the availability of Mofo and found links to it. It wasn't root in the way I've always had it before (write protect off), so I didn't purchase it. I think it all went fairly for everyone. No?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] siberian85:
I purchased mofo but when realized is read only got very disappointed
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] windraver:
Mofo has been pretty good in my opinion. I was able to flash a rooted image of Lollipop and run apps that require root. Of course there is the pitfall of write-protection in place but I asked for root.

On the contrary, who is collecting the bounty for root? I'd gladly chip in the given I had committed to do so to get root. It isn't obvious or clear...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] siberian85:
But you can't run all apps with root fully small thing like custom fonts is not possible unless img is modified
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] windraver:
Theres a decent guide on how to modify the IMG. Personally, I just wanted to hack a few games that I was playing, Tether my unlimited data, Backup apps, use USB OTG with usb microsd card readers, and etc. They didn't really require write access.

But of course, thats the nature of the new security implementations. Its only going to get harder. I'm glad we can do anything at all...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
Thats because mofo took the route of requiring payment for its services. So no seperate bounty would need to be paid on top. Perfectly fine route to take IMO, and I was happy to pay for mofo.

Btw, the root access the mofo gives is not 100% true root. it allows for flashing of modified system images only. Better than nothing, though, of course.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BootloopedMillennials:
Bootloader Unlock is coming to the Verizon and ATT Moto X 2014. Last tweet hints at Droid Turbo?

https://twitter.com/therootninja

Go thank those guys in their official thread.

---------- Post added at 04:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:36 PM ----------

Tweet about the Droid Turbo:

TheRootNinja ‏@TheRootNinja

[MENTION=3847428][/MENTION] [MENTION=276290]motorola[/MENTION] we think so, will know shortly after some testing
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
That would be SEX.

if jcase and beaups are on this... wow, amazing news, potentially.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BootloopedMillennials:
jcase and beaups (@TheRootNinja) thinking it will work for the Droid Turbo is a good omen.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pgzerwer:
This is amazing news! Can't wait!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] siberian85:
Would this be free or something like mofo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] platypied50:
Lol, doubt they'll be thinking about the bounty. I'm sure they will charge. But if it's bootloader unlock, I'll pay for that if it's reasonably fair.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BootloopedMillennials:
$25 is the cost of jcase and beaups app, SunShine. Subscribe to their official xda thread and wait for the update.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ryanbg:
For the amount of work there is into doing what these guys are doing, $25 is a steal.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] siberian85:
So money that we paid so far for mofo will be waste basically
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Steve One:
Will this work on 5.1?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] beaups:
You're going to need root in some form to use sunshine, so I wouldn't call it a waste.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Steve One:
Guess this answers my question.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
True but if they got it to work on the 2014 moto x then there's hope for the turbo and hope for su shine being able to temp root the turbo and profit
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BootloopedMillennials:
You need root before using Sunshine? Sunshine unlocks the bootloader and then you use TWRP recovery to get root won't work.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] beaups:
I'm well aware of how sunshine works [emoji14] you'll need root, be it mofo, kingroot temproot etc etc, just long enough for sunshine to do its thing.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BootloopedMillennials:
Obviously you know. Im the one unaware of how SunShine works. Thanks for the clarification.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] trikotret:
I don't think MOFO was a waste. It had it moments for the time being. We accomplished a lot with it and no regrets at all for buying it twice LOL
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rda990:
Hopefully it works on 5.1
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] someguyatx:
Yeah I'm glad for mofo and have no issues paying $20 or with the current method. Verizon took away the hotspot provisioning from my unlimited plan several device swaps ago. I hardly ever use it but I like it there for just in case. Also ad blocking
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] siberian85:
Well if you are rooted 4.4.4 is not problem updating if needed
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
Hopefully it uses the known stage fright vulnerability to achieve temp root and allow sunshine to work for us... Fingers crossed..
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rda990:
No I'm on 5.1
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] burmjohn:
Can't wait, its happening soon...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] aneeshmbabu:
Is it true?? Acc to their conversation ,they don't have a turbo to test
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
Seems so
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] aneeshmbabu:
Waiting for some good news....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] -Michael_:
This is huge, good news. Wish I had a turbo to mail them.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cadenmiller60:
Any news?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] siberian85:
I don't think it will happen very soon give it a couple of weeks or a month if it comes to turbo at all

Sent from my XT1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ceelos218:
what makes you say that?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] beaups:
We will get a turbo or two this weekend and hopefully work out the kinks. Shouldn't be too long.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] localceleb:
Excellent, thanks for the update!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jal3223:
Is there any LG G4 love in the works as well?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mjc2251:
[MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] Any chance those turbos are running 5.1?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] beaups:
Nope. We have some other issue(s) to work through.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cadenmiller60:
Will it still work if we are already on 5.1?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] beaups:
If you don't have any working root/temproot, no, you'd need to wait for if/when some temproot solution is found.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cadenmiller60:
Ok. So we'd basically just need to wait for temproot. Thanks.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
There's king root..maybe that will help things
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ceelos218:
this made me cry
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] crookx:
Me too.... :(
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] aneeshmbabu:
But we can expect some new updates within a month.. Waiting .. :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
[MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] if you guys need a tester, I'm more than happy to help (and pay). (mofo'd 5.1 w/ability to go back to 4.4.4).

also I'm pretty sure http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=62334926 this wont happen.

on another note, this thread can never die. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] siberian85:
Ok... Like a said couple of months

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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] trikotret:
[MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] So droid turbo 5.1 root looks to be a fairly trivial task. Moto X 2014 5.1 not there yet.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
i look at twitter about 10 times a day now....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BladeRunner:
Lol, me too
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
i honestly never cared about twitter until i saw sunshine is being updated.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] aneeshmbabu:
Waiting waiting ... Lol I want to see the message bootloader unlocked ...when im booting up my turbo , I paid 45$ to that chinese man too for unlocking BL like what I di in my droid maxx , but he refunded... Got message no codes available..

:(
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
Waiting is never easy. We've been collectively waiting longer for BL unlock on this phone than any other phone I know of so far. Maybe it will happen soon. The china man thing supposedly will never be again. Mind you, I prefer dealing with the sunshine team, but I think we are all desperate enough to try anything. Its funny, though, BC if you think about it, it kind of is $45. Mofo $20, Sunshine $25 and no shady Tao Boa. Well, unless some other awesome root comes along to make life easier. Hopefully its sooner than later. I get the impression [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] and [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] are working their aces off on this for us. Glad to have bl unlock soon. I think the first thing I'm going to do is make a moto m splash (clogo) that is red in all the places where the current one is white. I too cannot wait, though to see Warning!!! Device boot loader is unlocked....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
Me neither! lol
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ceelos218:
too bad it wont work for us that have 5.1 already.. unless theres a root exploit :(
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cadenmiller60:
Jcase says that root for turbo on 5.1 should be "trivial."
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] siberian85:
Any news

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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bahuy2003:
Maybe, we can't root droid turbo forever!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] siberian85:
?

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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bahuy2003:
Because root motorola always is very difficult work!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mrkhigh:
It's not that Motorola is more difficult it's that it is not as popular.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bahuy2003:
I don't think so! 10 months were passed, but nobody can root this device! I don't want to use unrooted mobile, but i have no choice.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Flowah:
Eh? It's rooted. I'm using my rooted Turbo right now.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] siberian85:
But not entirely!

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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
write protection, root, and ultimately bootloader unlock are very different things.

my Turbo has a rooted system.img, but system level root access at runtime does not exist. we need bootloader unlock. sad thing is, its looking like I will be able to buy a moto x 2015 pure edition and have it bl unlocked before the turbo. and have a bigger screen and sd card support.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] immadeofpixels27:
so what's all this about sunshine and twitter? (I'd read the thread myself to find out, but I'm busy)