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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Funny, I live and breath in the mobile security industry, its been my full time job for years. I've trained at Blackhat, and private companies around the world. You can find my name on numerous vuln disclosures for android, as well as several security related commits in AOSP. I was behind every recent motorola root (with exception of towelroot, all i did in that instance was run some tests in my device lab for geohot), and part of the team that released the moto x/g/maxx/mini/ultra unlock. I have never heard of you in the field. Being a fellow "professional hacker", i would have assumed you would have known why changing the SDK requirements would not magically make towelroot work.

Your math and theories are both wrong, im not trying to argue or fight, but its incorrect. Im also already aware how Motorola unlocks work, which is why what im stating isn't an opinion, its a fact.

Credit cards require no reverse engineering, its made up of a 6 digit BIN (bank identification number), a 9 digit number, and then a luhn check digit. Its a well known format, and completely and entirely unrelated to this situation.

As far as your picture, it does nothing for me.

Lets make this fun.

If im wrong, and you can prove it by publication, call me on it and I will donate $1000usd to any US Childrens Hospital.

People be aware, unlocked Turbos do exist, some pre-release, and engineering devices do come up time to time, and they are typically unlocked.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] durtaydiz:
Hey Jcase

Yea android isnt my forte im typically Cisco network security. Which is why im on here asking for your guy's input and help im not trying to be a jerk. And umm yea I white hat so why the **** would you need to have heard of my name lol we probably ran into each other at some conferences.

Since your so knowledgeable why don't you help us figure out an easier solution? You said you specifically do mobile security? What company?? Instead of like arguing with each other and reiterating my mistaken theories (which you seem to take great pleasure in) Be a team player lets tackle this together with the XDA communities help. I have been posting my correspondences with motorola. My last phone call I recieved was a higher up at a different verizon branch. His SME said he can point me in the right direction.

Can we just be like friends? Im not trying to outdo anybody here im not trying to be arrogant. Just brainstorming with you guys thats all.

Thanks,

~Dirty Dizzle

P.S. My resume of blackhatting includes the 2006 Sean Payton (coach of the saints) hack, 2007 Birdman (lil waynes "father"), and 2 East coast utility companies which shall not be named. And I wrote that Perl script that takes control of as many heavy duty cisco routers as possible and uses them for whatever I please =)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Credibility is greatly challenged for me from this post. Giving up the bounty.. Even if you deserve it?

Sent from my XT1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] durtaydiz:
I don't care about the bounty, I'm trying to get us to come together and figure this out..... The way I did it wont work on your phones due to the bootloader issue. There is no bounty on something that works strictly on my phone that I cant share with anybody . This group of people in this forum tonight are being very like mean to me, I'm just trying to think of a way we can all win. By no means am I super intelligent or claim to be, I came here for help with you guys, yall know more about your own areas of expertise than me. Screw the bounty... anybody else throw out ideas then??

If my theories are not right then so be it, I accept that I am wrong. I dont see anybody else suggesting ****. I dont see anybody else wasting time with motorola . I put in the work today spent hours on the phone doing **** with motorola. Anybody else have any other bright ideas? I am trying to help people..... dont be soo mean to me lol Can anybody appreciate my efforts for the community? I have to say im very disappointed as new member how all you treat me when we all have a common goal. So instead of trying to like point out my credibility or every flaw in a theory I have anybody want to propose some other ideas?????????????????????????????
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] danger2u:
ok if u want i send u my IMEI or the code u needed for unlock the bootloader

if u make it works,then maybe u are right.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jnclocker:
I wonna say Thanks for your effort and even doing this. In no way do we want to disrespect you and what may have worked for you. Please take your time and post whatever you can at your own time. Am sure someone will chip in and help out. For now let's all cool down and work this out for our benefit. Screw Verizon for their stupidity. Thanks for everything and Happy Thanksgiving.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kenbrownstone:
So in your opinion this will never be rooted or unlocked? If so I need to put it up for sale...Playing with rooted phones is the only hobbies I have ....So on to the n6?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] livinitwarrior:
From the other side of the table, and to hopefully not get off subject, and from an amateur root-er and Android user, this is my 5th or 6th Motorola. I have a crappy thanks meter to, because I also had to remake an account, so i get where you're coming from. But we have reliably had [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] who has spelled out the instructions in a way that a basic knowledge was needed. It was always reliable, safe, and we knew what to expect, from a guy who was never required to do anything for us.

Motorola is known to be hard. If you got this phone expecting easy access like Nexus, you're mistaken. We'll be lucky to get root at all, let alone if it ever comes with LP. Regardless of how you "brute force" anything, if you're going to be rude and curse, you'll split a forum that is here purely for mature use of personal gain. Don't be that guy. please be reminded, we're here for the same goal. If it works reliably, awesome. If it doesn't, smarter people than us will work on it in their spare time, regardless of bounty.

Don't pick sides. Focus on the community and enjoyment of tech, and "profit".
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] beaups:
Your ideas are not correct and your theories are terrible. If you spent half as much time researching the security behind the unlock token as you have spent typing nonsense, you'd have realized that already.

Here's an idea. Maybe if you toss your phone in a running blender it will unlock it. Come on team, you can do this! Nope, you can't....

See, I can post terrible ideas too.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] btreu1:
Why is everyone replying so venomously?! For fecks sake! Don't be d!cks. If the guy's wrong, we'll all know soon enough. Keep it civilized.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] MonkeyMouth:
I agree. It's one thing to assume this device would get root. And do nothing about it.

My Droid HD got it's bootloader unlocked.

The Droid Ultra found root eventually. So it's only a matter of time.

Where there's a will, there's a way.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] durtaydiz:
Thanks, I don't see anybody else trying things or posting results from experiments. I dont see anybody else reaching out to motorola and posting their results. I didn't expect things to get so vicious.... sorry ill just leave you guys alone.

For all of those out there who apparently know so much let me see your method of rooting a droid turbo!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Mattish13:
Why not make your own thread where those interested can keep an eye on your work and help out if possible?

sent from my droid turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lioryte:
I don't even have the Turbo :) Today is super funny
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] r3pwn:
Same. Not sure whether to believe the guy or not. If it's true, great! If not, oh well, we run basically AOSP anyways. I plan on picking mine up with Christmas/Birthday money.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LifeAsADroid:
^this

Watching dudes get raped with facts is always a good time.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] scallawag:
100.00 for which ever one comes first. Payable when I can apply it to my 64GB Droid Turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] -Michael_:
$25.00 For Root

$25.00 For Bootloader Unlock
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] DoctorB0NG:
$25 for root

$50 for unlocked bootloader
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bennyficial:
Would do $30/$60 (Root/unlock).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] synplex:
Put me up for $20 boot/ $15 root. :good:

Payable once confirmed to be working on 64GB BN.

and thanks to everyone trying to achieve root/boot unlock. :highfive:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] atm0sphere:
25/25 from me
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] fury683:
I'm in for $20/$20.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
Updated with all the latest pledges up to this point
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] J2theMatt:
$25/$25
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Harshmage:
$25/$15
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Slartibartfast_:
$25 for root
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jnclocker:
$25 for boot loader and $25 for root. Plus more to come if this happens.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] tdetroit:
$25/$25 payable when it's proven to work. Put me down for $40/$40 if this gets done before Thanksgiving.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] windraver:
$50 for Root + $50 for Bootloader + $50 Bonus if on Lollipop(when it comes out)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] AndyMan386:
Before I pledge, I have a few questions:

1) Talks of international editions coming out, when that is the case, are those phones basically the same exact phone but not locked down as much, or do they have different chips?

A) If International comes out and can be unlocked, is it possible to buy and use on Verizon

B) If international comes out and can be unlocked, will the unlock make it easier to unlock the verizon version?

my guess the answers to these are:

1) No usually different processors

A) Will use GSM not CDMA so not able to put on Verizon

B) Because question 1 is different processors, the bootloader lock will be different and wont be useful unlocking verizon.

Just a guess but worth asking
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rpitera:
I'm in but not holding my breath

I don't think this is an issue of enough money. From what I've been reading it's just not going to happen with a Moto on VZW.

But I can dream and I have no trouble putting my money where my mouth is so.....

$50 - unlocked boot loader or $25 for root

Must work on my VZW 64G Droid Turbo; money payable immediately on proof of root and/or unlocked boot loader on my device.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pjd2011:
Ditto. $25/$25.

$40/$40 before Thanksgiving.

$50/$50 before 11/9 :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jasoraso:
I'm also in for 50 bootloader / 25 root
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Slickademo:
$20 for BL Unlock if before the end of this year :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rglebien:
Before I pledge, is it likely that root will void the warranty since it's vzw we're talking about here
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lioryte:
Lol if you believe him, I have a bridge I can sell y'all ?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LifeAsADroid:
Lol, look at my post again and see what parts of the guys above me I quoted. I never believed this story from the beginning.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] renegadeone8:
It is a different situation since they officially agreed to carry the Nexus. It isn't really a "non VZW" device they even slapped their carrier branding all over it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PerCompLLC:
Point taken... :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dtroup64:
Are you talking about the Nexus 6? How do we know they slapped their branding all over it? I'm pretty sure no one has seen a Verizon Nexus 6 as of yet. (But maybe I missed something... I often do! :) )
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] renegadeone8:
Nope I am the one that is missing something :) I misunderstood a reviewer. Thought he said that he had the "Verizon edition of the Nexus 6" but what he actually said is that his worked on Verizon out of the box, and it looked exactly like his Verizon Moto X EXCEPT for the carrier branding. My mistake!!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lafont28:
No more on this new root/unlock method? I almost let myself get my hopes up but I figured it was to good to be true!!!!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jhalv:
Put me down for $30 for root access.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] krabman:
I disagree, it is not different and he was right. Verizon claims they do not want phones on their networks with unlocked bootloaders due to security issues and this is why they lock them, the N6 and other developer phones that they do allow on the network clearly highlight the fact that this is a lie. If phones with unlocked bootloaders represented any threat to their network whatsoever no matter how tiny none would be allowed. Ever. Slapping a logo on a phone and officially allowing it has nothing to do with the unlocked bootloader which remains every bit as unlocked and is or is not exactly the same inherent risk as a phone without Verizon branding on it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bobbyjayboogle:
$50 bootloader $35 root

$50 bootloader $35 root
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jimmyjjohn:
I was wondering how long it was going to take for 1 of these threads to pop up.

sent from Sunshine deprived Turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lafont28:
Why would you copy my exact post?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
Weeks later
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Steve One:
Looks like a new person be nice probably didn't skim the whole thread Happy Thanksgiving all
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rayjr13:
Seems nice and inviting isn't the trend in this thread. Anyway finally got mine so please add 69.75 for bootloader unlock.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lafont28:
I wasn't looking to flame. I'm genuinely curious why he copied my post word for word including the signature I had at the time.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
Its your long lost twin brother!!! He's found on you on thanksgiving!!!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] computerfreek274:
I am in for $75.00 for bootloader and $50.00 for root.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnny grep:
I hope the VZW security guy kept his job. :D
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
Did anyone update to 21.21.15 and get volte? I'm definitely interested in root but fed up with no data during calls. If I were to risk it taking the update I def want to get the volte of don't care to bother with it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wheels01:
The 21.21.15 Update did not have VOLTE as a feature available. We are still waiting for that :(
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
I don't think that will be in an ota. It will just be Verizon allowing it. The phone itself is volte ready.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cstone1991:
It's already well known that it is disabled on the phone on a software level. It has been said since release that it will come as a part of the LP update.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
Thanks for the heads up
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cdkg:
$50 bootloader

$25 root
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
Didn't know that. Were does it say it comes with LP? All I've heard is by the end of the year. Moto x got LP and doesn't have volte. I know its software but I thought you have to download from verizon website. Sooner the better... As long as it's stable.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lafont28:
It will be a separate update. The device has the capability just not the required software
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wireproof:
If it helps anyone obtain root, I learned that we cannot access *#*#4636#*#* from the DROID Turbo, but if you use this app from Google Play it will bring up that menu (I guess it's a backdoor as Moto or VZW disabled that phone test menu).

Oh and I just learned this, and I am not the developer for that app just found it and learned it works.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.mangelow.network
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
I cant wait for VoLTE. I need the simultanious voice/data so bad. Its the ONE thing thats absolutely killing me on a regular basis. Not having custom roms, I can more or less live with since the Turbo is so close to stock Android.

I'm going to assume they hold true to releasing before end of year, and I doubt they would do it in the days between X-Mas and New Years just cause that would be odd. So hopefully in the next 3 weeks or less!!!!!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
From my reading it is software disabling it now even without volte. If that's accurate, thanks big red. Thinking of reactivating my mini.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
Updated with latest pledges as of this post.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ganggreen30:
U call them they activate volte. Same as they did on my G2 my turbo comes in mail tomorrow. Yesss
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] schwartz.matthew.e:
Are you trying to say that Verizon will activate volte over the phone?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] livinitwarrior:
If that's true, then the large majority of VZW Tech and Customer Service are totally unaware. The employees who have the phone have the exact same problem.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rayjr13:
Already confirmed established volte and several other fixes will be in the second (next) ota, which will not have 5.0

Sent from my SCH-I605
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] schwartz.matthew.e:
I'll try it now and report back.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] schwartz.matthew.e:
Waiting on the phone with big red...apparently this is a difficult answer for them to figure out..
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Darkenvar:
Volte does have to be enabled in the Verizon billing system. However until the software for this phone is updated to support it, and it hasn't been yet but it is coming, there is nothing that can be done to enable it in the billing system. Once the software is updated then you can either call and have it enabled it go online to your myverizon account and enable it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mycalw:
There is a work around... Install Google voice, hangouts, and hangouts dialer. With these three apps you can make calls over your data network when you need both voice and data. It's not perfect but it works mostly.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] schwartz.matthew.e:
Whether it be software or not (for those who have disputed it above), it is not compatible for the Turbo yet. Looks like the new iPoos, G2, last gen of RAZRs, and the S5.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ganggreen30:
Yes but I'm speaking of my g2 u have to call to activate advanced calling 1.0

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When I enabled volte by calling them it magically reappeared after I rebooted like they said.. That's scary.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jaben2:
On the g2 you could do it online as well. It has to be activated software wise and in their system. Until both are done it will not work.

Let's please keep this thread on topic.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LifeAsADroid:
Lol, without keeping the thread off topic there isn't going to be much to talk about since no one is working on a root/unlock method.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] beaups:
Just because not everyone posts useless status updates for their terrible ideas doesn't mean "nobody is working on" it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LifeAsADroid:
This is the first possibly useful post in 424 posts. Do you have any insight you'd like to hint at? Or have you already...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] beaups:
I don't have anything. Just stating that most people who do this sort of thing (myself included) generally don't post play-by-plays during research etc.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rpitera:
Still, would it be so wrong to give people some hope to say that someone was at least working on it? (No disrespect intended). ?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] beaups:
It never works that way. Normally that just creates an annoyance of pm's and "why isn't it released yet" posts etc etc. But just to make myself 100% clear, I'm not currently working on anything for this device.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rpitera:
Yeah, I can understand that. I see that whole thing going on in the Sunshine thread with jcase. I like his stock answer but I can imagine it gets tiring for him. But it's hard to be a rock star... ?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lazarus2297:
I don't normally ask anything about root.. and to be honest its not paramount to me keeping the device.. I do find myself missing it just for some small personalizations I like..

I know you said you are not working on anything for this device.. but since you clearly know your stuff and and I would imagine keep up with others like yourself.. Is there anyone that you know of who is working on this device.. or will we just have to wait and see if something from another device just happens to root our device too?

Thanks for your previous work I have benefited from in the past!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] danger2u:
it s time to get the Maxx

no root

no bl unlocked
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Im curious, for those who cant afford to buy a Maxx overseas and whatnot, WHAT is the next best phone to own, as compared to the droid turbo. Preferably with root.

The next best phone to own.....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] danger2u:
for me Moto x 2014.

and i thinking seriously to a Huawei Mate 7
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jal3223:
HTC M8. Currently unlocked, rooted, and has a big development community. It's a fast phone with good specs (in my opinion).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Does the m7 compare at all to the m8? That was my next best guess, or possibly an LG g3 - im looking for a phone to play with to satisfy my root needs. the m8 is still something like 350 bucks
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rayjr13:
agreed E8 personally for me but not on VZW but I would have purchase m8 if it weren't for supercharging and wireless charging.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rpitera:
No offense guys but let's try to stay at least close to topic.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] leftbrain99:
Late to the party, but want to contribute (on a student budget) - $25 for root access and another $25 for unlocked bootloader
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] yz250f71:
I'm in $50 Root and $100 Boot
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Ordieth:
Count me in. $50 root. $100 boot.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] fclandi:
bootloader unlock and root

maybe i know how do root and unluck bootloader on this device

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I am think about of the stock rom of moto maxx the (the brazilian droid turbo) the XT 1255 at this model the bootloader unlock, custom recovery and root are avaible :)

this is my theory but i dont now if it's works thak:good:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jnclocker:
Let's go buddy. Unlock the device and bounty is all yours.

Let us know how it goes.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
lets words of what you may be able to do and more instruction on how to do it to collect the bounty
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
Not to burst anyones bubble but i really dont think this guys can. Look at his number of post and member status. Just a hunch. He may prove us wrong.