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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] reggie14:
Where did this February rumor start? As I said in my earlier post, I haven't seen anything from Motorola even suggesting a February release. They said "soon," but "soon" doesn't necessarily mean February.

The February rumors that I've seen were all started by fake news sites set for click-baiting, as well as a few forum posts with wild speculation.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GreaterLesser:
That's what I meant.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhouse1983:
Well its February now.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cstone1991:
I've seen a few articles that have claimed that Motorola would be updating all of their major phones in February. How legitimate those claims are remains to be seen. It seems very plausible that we could begin receiving the update in February, but that doesn't mean it will happen.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] theineffablebob:
So it's coming tomorrow? Yay
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wynnded:
Monday, 30 February. :rolleyes:;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] matheus_sc:
Verizon is weird....

http://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/02/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s5-gets-lollipop-update/
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Its 5.0.

The original RTM release. The only weird thing is they approved that POS.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
coolbeans
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dog44:
Does the private link function for you yet?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
/golfclap
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] danger2u:
we received a week a go

the problem is that didn t rollout yet
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
Oh okay then
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Manjews:
No, this is a different email entirely.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] theycallmerayj:
Agreed that isn't the surveymonkey email. That's looks like the actual soak test rollout email.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Jaocagomez:
That's not surveymonkey it's different from the other one, that must be lollipop, ring the bell guys
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
Volte was done through survey monkey too. Soak != lollipop. Soak = test of software.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
I had a feeling this wasn't that email supposedly sent a week ago. Just keeping you guys updated with legit news unlike the chat crap
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Toledo_JAB:
I am passing along another users reported thoughts on this issue....

I am not experienced in this type of release so I personally can not help.

I just thought I should post what was reported as a possible warning for all.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dano1282:
Also gonna give u legit news...this is indeed a major rollout of new software. Keep your eyes open..not just a volte patch. Its more. Waaaaaaaay more.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] theycallmerayj:
Source? Do you have a date or time when it's coming? Not doubting just curious if you can say any more.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dano1282:
Part of the soak. Can't say more. But I can say that I have received multiple emails and forum invites that I've never gotten before for any other soak. Other users that have gotten these have said Moto does this all the time but I've never seen this..not even for Jellybean to KitKat on my Droid Maxx.. Sooo we shall see.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] theycallmerayj:
I've only received the surveymonkey email that's why I was curious. I haven't gotten any further emails, which maybe means I'm out of the actual test, which is kind of unusual.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
You stated you cant say more yet your bringing up the stuff about the soak test. Awesome dude. Just like the last one when u brought it to the forum and told every here. Nice following the rules
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Something seems to contradict here...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
It's the same guy from the first one.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jwort93:
While this doesn't really prove anything for sure, it may be a sign. Droid Zap was just updated to material design.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kwyrt:
Surprise! The soak test is actually downgrading everyone to gingerbread!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
SWEET.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Character Zero:
Super stable.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wynnded:
That'd be one stale cookie....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
Actually the soak test it to get is to froyo. Woohoo! Lol
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kyleds:
Aww... I was waiting for a cupcake downgrade ?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ltdanno360:
man im not holding my breath for this one

My vzn motorola Droid Turbo works just fine on 4.4

reminds me of dé·jà vu

of the Motorola Atrix and the whole ics thing

yea motorola i havent forgot how you left us all out to dry

on that one
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] matheus_sc:
Its sad http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...istributed-in-India-for-Android-5.0.2_id65557
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Luhccas-X10:
Sad is don't receive even one update since its launch in our country.

Every (new or 2013) Motorola smartphone have a better and polished firmware than Moto Maxx.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Gundabolu SC:
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-5-1-android-one-indonesia-584867/

If this SOAK is gonna be 5.0.2... Wonder when 5.1 will make it to our devices!! :D :D :D

I am pretty sure its gonna be a loooooooong wait! :D :D :D
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kingersj1:
You never know, it may have taken longer get this update, but it was full of bugs. If 5.1 isn't buggy, we might get it faster. Just trying to stay positive.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Pro tip:

Only buy something for what it can do at that current moment. Buying something for what it may shape up to be in the future will always be a gamble.

My Turbo is fine, and I have a hard time accepting that the Maxx is worse off considering the crapware I have to deal with. You aren't happy with the phone, you should really get something else. Pouring your misery onto this forum won't help.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Luhccas-X10:
Telling me that i can't show my disappointment is fatuity.

You have a Droid Turbo, i have a Moto Maxx.

My firmware sucks, your firmware seems to be fine.

Welll... You can report me if i hurt you with a OPINION.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Awww, did I hurt your feelings?

I didn't say you "can't" do anything. I said it won't help to continually complain.

Most of the threads you post in this forum are to complain. It is clear you aren't happy and need another device.

You make it quite clear what I am saying is an opinion. This is true, but so is everything you say...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Luhccas-X10:
Because all i have to say about this phone is complains?

Because here in Brazil Motorola sell this thing for U$ 808,00 and NEVER UPDATED IT?

What do you think i have to say?

Of course i need another device... Or stay with this having a proper firmware.

Awesome hardware without good software is revolting! <- That you didn't assimilated

We don't have support in our country.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gibosn6594:
Don't think I've seen a bigger bunch of babies than I've seen in this forum.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] donsmith1964:
You are in the Turbo forum. Throwing in opinions about another phone confuses the issue.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
To correct that. The turbo and the maxxx both share the same thread. This post also never states which phone its for. So he is well within his rights to post here.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Luhccas-X10:
We don't have Moto Maxx forum here.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LordBass:
Actually no. Unless you sign a NDA (non-disclosure agreement), you can share any personal e-mail.

The soak test most likely has a NDA for you to comply, but unless there's a clause that you can't paricipate in the soak test if you share the e-mail, there's no problem in sharing and then participating the test.

The general idea is that both parties have the right for a conversation. There's no such thing as a "confidential" e-mail unless you previously agreed to give up your rights to that conversation.

That's a good tip for everyone, really. If you ever receive a "confidentional" e-mail, you are free to share it as you like.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bigv5150:
Hey adrenalyn do me a favor let me know what phone your getting next so I don't get the same one. I'm so tired of seeing you cry about leaking soak test info in every thread. Its getting old. You have made your opinion very clear and no one cares.

sent from "my kungfu is stronger then yours" XT1080
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
Um says you!! I care and follow everything [MENTION=1415579]adrynalyne[/MENTION] says. He knows his stuff. This post you have written is pointless.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Just ignore him. He is just trying to derail yet another thread.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhouse1983:
So to help keep at least one lollipop thread going: Does anyone have any inside info? Are there any tips about possible lollipop update? Any opinions about us with 5.1 instead of 5.0.2?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Ekkoria:
Of all the Internet forums I've ever been a part of this one has some of the biggest babies. Can't we have ONE thread without taking shots at each other?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] donsmith1964:
I would like confirmation that there is a soak test and if it is for lollipop as well.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Ekkoria:
Well, the rumors going around are that the soak test is for lollipop, but nothing has been confirmed. That's about all the info I've seen on it. Personally I suspect we'll get 5.0.2 seeing how long it's been since 5.0 came out and given motorola's track record on speedy updates. But that's just personal speculation. Basically nobody knows anything for sure, other than its coming "soon."
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dbornack:
I just do this

"This message is hidden because the_rooter is on your ignore list."
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
You aren't helping.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] nrage23:
It is absurd for a bunch of nobody trolls to hound a respected android developer like [MENTION=1415579]adrynalyne[/MENTION]. I come into the Turbo forums to see what is going on and if there is yet a chance for root or Lollipop. All I see in every thread a people hiding behind internet pseudonyms being jerks. I have not had a device in common with him since the old HTC Thunderbolt. He did great things to help that turd of a phone and I am sure he will help the Turbo if it gets unlocked or rooted.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
+1
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
I miss the ease of working on that phone. I don't miss the phone, however.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
I too used some of your stuff from the thunderbolt days. Kinda curious if there is any more development going on with that device.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] romma1:
+2
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
motorola makes the best phones, but there software.... they really need to just have a secret way to unlock their phones. let the developers who like playing with awesome hardware do their thing. i would like to see a "leak" of how to root the turbo. so many people, i believe, would buy this phone if they could develop for it. but since it is just a thing in the hands of a developer instead of a tool. it is really sad, this phone has so much potential, but motorola cannot even get lollipop rolled out on it yet
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
He said he doesn't care about root, that he mostly develops apps for non-rooted phones.

He said that in reply to me pointing out the Moto Maxx was superior for development at this point with root and TWRP. He said he didn't care about root.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
It isn't that I don't care, its just not my focus, nor my skillset to find it.

I never said I don't care about root.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Toledo_JAB:
This thread is going to stay closed for a little while.

The type of bickering that I have found on this thread is not welcome on XDA

When my team feels that a sufficient "COOL DOWN" period has past, then this thread will be re-opened.

Those of you that have been found to contribute to the degradation of this thread will be handled.

Feel free to plead your case to me in a PM.

To quote a wise man, "judgement is coming"

/me walks away shaking my head in disbelief
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pjcforpres:
There are plenty of ad-blocking apps that do not require root. It has nothing to do with ads, and everything to do with security. The same exploits used to gain root can and are used for more nefarious reasons. If it was about ad revenue and tracking, why would there be numerous ad blocking, tracking blocking, et al apps in the Play Store?

Securing the kernel, boot loader, and system is 100% about making the devices secure against attacks / hackers, and trying to make the platform attractive to enterprise level customers. Can you imagine the outrage of the general public if Google didn't try to plug these holes, and Android became best known for security flaws?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] krabman:
Not plenty of ad blocking ads that actually work properly, that requires host file replacement and you cant access the host file without root. All the apps that used to allow that (if you had root access and could use them) were kicked off the market some time ago which you should be aware of I'm thinking? This is to say nothing about the fact that I said "you can stop ads and do all kinds of other things", not just block ads alone.

As to everything else you said, wrong. It is all about money, control, and power and thinking anything else is very very naive. There is absolutely no reason why they cannot allow users to unlock and root their phones and leave them to their own fate. Except of course the fact that they do not want users doing what they want to do, they want them doing what makes them money and keeps control strictly in their hands and nothing else.

I suspect you are going to keep trying for a "win" and I don't come to argue so I'm going to leave the last word to you.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] danger2u:
nothing it s imposible. we will have root and unlocked bootloader for Droid turbo.

i hope...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheBiles:
I don't think there's any way we see an unlocked bootloader.

Sent from my XT1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bwheelies:
The post from the OP is commonplace. Someone asking a rep about an update. Reps know nothing. I worked in a call center once and the managers did not care if you handled nuisance requests with bs'ing. They get it a lot and they don't know the answer and they want to move on to the next customer that can earn them their profit.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] EP76:
Is it possible to receive the ota update when the phone is running on another carrier?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
While I agree, December 1st is definitely not out of the question. Last year the droids were updated really fast. No reason this year won't be the same.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhouse1983:
I asked earlier in the thread (I think) but being that the Turbo is so new (1 1/2 weeks) maybe there's no soak test. Maybe the soak test for the Moto x is also for the droid turbo. Maybe the turbo version and the moto x version of lollipop is the same? I have a hard time believing December 1st when the Moto x (and LG G3) is getting it this week. The turbo is no different than the moto x except in minute areas so why couldn't they roll out at the same time or close to it? I have been trying to be as patient as possible but I'm starting to get that itch. I don't understand why an update to my phone gets me antsy. But I do think December 1st is a stretch. No way would Motorola push it to the moto x and then wait another month for the Turbo. They're both (as well as the nexus) flagships. Maybe just maybe...............GIVE ME MY LOLLIPOP!!!!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Yehudah:
Every single phone thread where an update is on the horizon starts like this one did: I was on a call/chat with a rep who said......

We'll get 5.0 fast enough, the phone JUST CAME OUT for crap sake.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] relf108:
Actually there is already a way to root lollipop 5.0. Also is there a particular thing you have to do to unlock boot, I thought you just run OEM unlock
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Munkee915:
I'm fine w/o root for 95% of the things I do with my phone. However, I need root for AppRadio Unchained which I use on a daily basis on my drive to/from work. Also, the Xposed framework was really nice to have as well. I will hold out for root, or possibly switch out the N6 depending on when VZW decides to release it for their network.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pjcforpres:
OEM unlock only works on Nexus Devices... and the root exploit for Lollipop requires an unlocked boot loader to flash a rootable kernel, then flash a secured kernel afterwards, if I am not mistaken.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Restola:
As bad as the soak test is for the Moto X I hope L is still a little ways off.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
I saw a video on YouTube of the Moto x developer pure edition already got lolipop

---------- Post added at 01:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:19 PM ----------

http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-rolls-out-lollipop-2014-moto-x-pure-edition-gsm-moto-g
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cyberr8der:
What bad is going on with the soak test?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] smokeydriver:
I knew getting this phone Root would be way delayed or unlikely. I miss XPosed, but I don't need it...but I really miss wireless tethering- even though I rarely use it. So if we can get tether working without root, I think I'm all set.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhouse1983:
Y'know I'm sitting here thinking about this: the Nexus 6 was made by Motorola. It was released this week and while I understand the masses may not have it in hand it is being shipped. If Motorola wanted people to buy the Turbo and sell that phone as well, wouldn't they release Lollipop very quickly after the Nexus 6 was released? So people on other carriers (besides verizon) would buy the Nexus 6 while people on Verizon would buy the Turbo until it received the 6. It would make sense to me.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cyberr8der:
Nexus devices always get it 1st. 5.0 has been officially released for a very short time. Have a little patience.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Galaxo60:
Actually, it wan't true for the last 2 releases of Android where Motorola already had KitKAt and Lollipop before Nexus.

;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cyberr8der:
Motorola had lollipop before the nexus? What's the complaint then?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhouse1983:
Patience young grasshoppa

I have patience. I don't have any problem waiting for it. The title of the thread is called Hints on lollipop release date. I'm trying to give a little insight to others about the possibility. I'm also not new to the scene. Nexus devices get it first I'm aware of that. Last year not so true as the moto x got it before the nexus 4. And my "theory" as to give insight to when it comes is due to the fact that Motorola made the nexus this year. Why would they release the Turbo right before the nexus 6 and not release lollipop for the Turbo on the tails of the Nexus 6? If they wanted the Turbo to sell (and why not since the Nexus 6 hasn't been made available for Verizon yet) then maybe release Lollipop for the Turbo before the Nexus 6 goes on sale at Verizon? All I'm doing is trying to think of a logical release time for those who are looking for it. I'm happy with the device as is. KitKat has never steered me wrong or given me any issues. I'm just following the title of the thread.

---------- Post added at 08:26 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:24 AM ----------

Who's complaining? HINTS ON LOLLIPOP RELEASE DATE!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] my2cents:
A little more info.

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949#gs=
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wireproof:
The only camera issue I have (asside from that lag!) is I miss being able to tap the area to focus on or to re-focus the camera... BIGGEST issue ever for me. Never use the camera and too lazy to download a different one (need suggestions for different camera app)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] @work:
The 2013 Motorola's Dont have root available for the latest update because the holes they have used get patched very quickly.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PaintDrinkingPete:
This is the first Android device I've ever owned (and I've owned my fair share) that I haven't fully rooted with unlocked bootloader. In fact, in the past, I made it a personal policy not to even consider buying a phone until I was sure that root had already been achieved...and then I bought the Droid Turbo.

It's not so much that I forgot about my own rules, and trust me, I'll unlock/root this thing in a second if a method becomes available, but essentially I just decided that I was going to be OK with a stock non-rooted device.

Going back to some of the earlier devices (eclair, froyo, gingerbread, etc), I feel like you pretty much needed to root your phone in order to really get the most out of it. Starting with ICS and even more with Jelly Bean, however, it seems like Android has addressed many of the issues that would have forced my to root *for performance issues*, and it is a much more polished product now than ever before. The other part of it is that I simply don't have the time and desire that I used to have constantly flash nightlies and keep up with custom kernel updates and the like. At this point, I'm generally running stock OS or something that's pretty stable.

So yeah...I'll miss having a lot of the root functionality I'm used to, like being able to run Titanium backup and Adblocker and definitely Xposed modules...but I'll survive just fine without it. I'm still very happy with the Droid Turbo, and I'll probably go ahead and upgrade it to 5.0 even if I know that removes any slim hope I had before of a root method becoming available.

If I had felt differently, I would have bought a Nexus
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] robertopod1968:
You can drag the circle to focus in areas that you want. You have to change it in the options though
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wireproof:
Wow thanks! I havent uaed the camera too much to figure that out but ill definitely try that. Thanks!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhouse1983:
My thinking right now about lollipop: seeing bugs all over the place with other phones running it. Let them sort the bugs now and get it right when we get it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
That's what happens when they rush the release to the phones. It's absurd how a lot of people are being so impatient for lollipop as if it were to be released in whole like apple does. They forget how different it is for android when every brand has their own ui and seperate coding for each. When apple it's all the very same phone.