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[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] be4con:
I've just re-flashed the nandroid I made before installing KatKISS and I'm back on build number: JOP40D.US_epad-10.6.1.15.3-20130416 but the bootloader is listed as WW_epad-10.6.1.15.3-20130416 still.

I'm really not sure which way to jump now? It appears my tablet is both WW and US - can anyone help at all?
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] be4con:
SOLVED

OK, so the answer it seems is that whatever your mainboard is - that's the SKU you flash, regardless of what your bootloader version is. ASUS surpisingly were the source of that info, though they declined to help any further because I had modded my device.

I seem to be the only person interested in the answer to this problem, but I thought I'd update in case someone finds themselves in the same boat as me sometime down the line and comes here looking for an answer.

I have flashed the latest ASUS US SKU, and now flashed TWRP 2.8, and both my bootloader and build are now showing as US.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdg1:
Is there a secret to using the heatrate scanner? My success rate is about 1 out of every 15 attempts. Sometimes even worse. It doesnt seem to make difference on any of my fingers. Trust me I've tried them all ?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hopesrequiem:
Are you dead? Haha jk mine works fine so long as my case isn't on the phone
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alprazolam:
Seriously, are your hands usually cold? That makes a difference for heart rate and especially sp02
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lareya:
mine works fine, just hold still a bit
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kartkid:
My scanner only works if :

I use my forefinger

My finger is rather straight up/down

My case is off

I'm sitting

And lastly, I'm resting my finger on the sensor.

Hope this helps :o
[Nexus 5 General] stankyou:
Always informative Mr. RootSU
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Thanks. I try :)
[Nexus 5 General] androidsnax:
Thanks for this - I am rooted and have a basic knowledge of fastboot from unlocking and rooting the N5 last year and the N4 before that.. however, as I've not touched it for about that long it's probably about time I start the reading process again to get ready for some Lollipop action!

I had been planning on getting the factory images from Google and using fastboot to fresh flash it - looks like that's not really necessary tho?

Thanks ;)

...sent from the Nexus 5000
[Nexus 5 General] stankyou:
I still remember rocking your dGB ROM during the Desire days. LOL
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
but my rooted and modified nexus 5 did receive an ota.. can i or should i apply it? or my rooted and unmodified nexus 5 did receive an ota.. can you decribe to me what would happen if i do apply it?
[Nexus 5 General] Syntaxer:
Thanks for this, really informative.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Ooh good point. I'll mention that.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
If you want to keep root, The best thing to do would be to wait for a pre-rooted rom.zip - which should also contain the custom boot.img needed to give root permissions...

Just make sure you do all your backups first if you want to keep stuff.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Oh and if anyone has any suggestions for things I should include in the OP, please let me know.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Seems like we've gone with what I previously said about people who want OTAs while rooted :p

You should also add that if one STILL wants to take OTAs for some silly reason, even after reading this thread, he/she should stay away from root access completely and use their phone like any other unknowledgable/ignorant person would, like someone that OTAs were meant for. :angel:
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Yep :p
[Nexus 5 General] In Desolation:
Well said, sir. Nice work.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Ha. Oh wow.
[Nexus 5 General] J.Diogo:
Thank you so much.
[Nexus 5 General] -Fabione-:
Nice information thx :)
[Nexus 5 General] tgrgrd00:
Probably goes without saying but a link to a pre-rooted ROM where you mention this option would be great. When available of course.

Only because finding a stock pre-rooted ROM at times like these can be a task even for vets. ;) Having it right there would be very useful for those peaking in on this already informative thread.

Thanks
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
na, very easy. basic aosp/stock rooted roms(these are what you want) will be in the android development section of the nexus 5. always. in the original development section, there will be original roms only.
[Nexus 5 General] czacha234:
Also, you can edit flash-all.bat and find entry:

nulfastboot -w update image-hammerhead-ktu84p.zip

and remove "-w" and save it. Then just execute flash-all.bat and the script will flash all the images without wiping data. I always do that way and never had data wiped.
[Nexus 5 General] Primokorn:
Nice advices once again and I totally agree with OTA subject.

I used Lollipop a few days then I went back to KK and I do not plan to update soon. Since I didn't follow recent discussions about Lollipop I have a question: flashing a rooted flashable zip won't be a mess? e.g unavailable /sdcard, a 32Gb storage that becomes 16Gb (actually that's what I had - clean flash of course)... Lollipop is really different compared to KK so would it not be more appropriate to flash the factory imgs (without restoring user data from KK) before enjoying Lollipop's stuff?
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
You might not have issues with KK, but MANY are "too lazy" to wipe data going to Lollipop and of has only caused issues. Then they post a question which has been answered a billion times.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Maybe, I cannot be sure. I used a flashable zip and had no issues with storage. However, that said, I had to reformat my data partition from F2FS anyway. I will re-address when official L based zips come out.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Haha.... Sorry about the OP, I couldn't resist "theming" it :p
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Next step is to make an app for it with Material design! lol jk
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
hehe
[Nexus 5 General] Primokorn:
Nice looking :D but the texts on your images aren't easy to read via Tapatalk (400 dpi)
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Yeah I know :(

May go to robot standard and bold instead of Light... and not bold
[Nexus 5 General] abaaaabbbb63:
I don't like my mentions.

They should be with size 7 text, in pink and lime green, with flashing lights all over them, and a kitty. :D
[Nexus 5 General] sutobe:
Thanks for bringing your thoughts into this thread, yet there is one question I am asking myself

According to Chainfire you need to flash a special kernel to get root access with Android 5....at least for the previews as mentioned in this article

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...op-preview-builds-on-the-nexus-5-and-nexus-7/

Am I misinterpreting something?

Thing is, my replacement Nexus 5 has a horrid display white balance. Since I use a calibrated screen to edit my work I hated the way my pictures look on my new N5, the one I had before had a nearly to perfect white balance....so I flashed Franco Kernel so I could compensate the bad WB of my new phone with Franco's Display Control App.

I'd like to keep it that way of course (somehow). I am fully aware of how to flash a factory image with and without wiping (deleting "-w" in the batch file), but if you need to flash a root kernel, I'm afraid the White balance is going to suck again.

If this is the case, I guess it's up to Franco to release a Kernel which can provide root access?

Thanks for any answer clearing this up
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
No, in fact I mention this in post 1.

It's not really what this thread is about, but I'll answer anyway. Some kernels do not replace the RAMdisk. They just modify it. So for example, if you flash the boot.img as required, you could flash a kernel like elementalX that just modified the RAMdisk, leaving all the special root stuff in place, but adding colour control stuff.

Infact 2.01 ElementalX apparently doesn't need the special boot.img flashing first, however I have not tested it myself.
[Nexus 5 General] stylazation:
For me, I would install stock 4.4.4 then update to lollipop. It's just that's how I feel doing it.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
What's the point of flashing stock then updating, when you can just flash Lollipop directly?

lol..
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Haha. Despite it all there will always be one. The best way from Edinburgh to London is via ferry to France.
[Nexus 5 General] stylazation:
Ah well personally I think stock to stock upgrade have less chances of bugs or error. My personal preference. New update so let if have a fresh start. Just saying.

P.S the developer preview ROM I'm using at the moment been acting up was thinking about wiping everything and revert back to the stock and wait for official update.

Just saying.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
That's what wiping is for. Please don't contaminate this thread with nonsense. It confuses the message.
[Nexus 5 General] stylazation:
Wasn't it about the journey always?

Would love that ferry snap some selfies and a relaxing view over horizon ?
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
The journey is the experience not the amount of steps you travel.
[Nexus 5 General] stylazation:
Alright then mate,

You go that way <---

I'll go this way --->

?
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Yep, you go the long, wrong and pointless way. But go alone...

Please stop the off topic now.
[Nexus 5 General] Citizen_Snips:
You would be surprised. I was playing with one of my friends old Motorola's one day and an update popped up for an OTA. It was for ICS>JB and I told him it came up and he said install it. So I did and sure enough it bootlooped and he had to have a new one overnighted. There's actually several instances where people have had this happen to them. OTA is just a delta update. It extracts and modifies the existing file system. Kinda like a "dirty flash" I suppose. I image there isn't a safer way to update then by flashing factory images from fastboot. Completely new start. Nothing left behind, etc.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Indeed, although a wipe and flashing a ROM.zip is just as reliable.
[Nexus 5 General] stylazation:
Longer the journey more the memories.

Still as the current ROM I'm using. Updating that to the official 5.0 launched officially would be as new as stock over coming all the errors and bugs I'm having right now will vanish. Is that what you advice me. If yes then I'll do that. It's just I was kind of playing safe. Yes it's just few steps and 15 minutes more but still. I'm here to learn from the senior members rather then argue. With all respect.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Take a nandoid backup and wipe now. If the bugs remain, they are ROM related. It is a preview after all. If the bugs disappear, the problem is an incompatibility with your data / settings.

When Official is released, flash a system and boot.img and re-root if you want, but flashing a zip has the same effects.

If earlier when you wipes bugs remained - flash without a wipe initially. If when you wiped, the bugs went away, you should wipe. Either way. An OTA will only add to the pain and flashing full stock via fastboot if you want root is a waste of time. However, if you don't want root go for it.

Flashing a ROM.zip or fastboot flashing system and boot replace everything that was there before is replaced fully so there is no need to flash stock 4.4.4 first.
[Nexus 5 General] Citizen_Snips:
True that! I've never had any problems. . . Except for that time one of my GNex's flash memory failed after trying to flash a ROM. Besides that.. Nope! :p

Thanks for the information here though. I always wondered why so many rooted users were scrambling and asking how to take an OTA. Like bro, do u even nexus??? Lol, but seriously. I guess more people just use toolkits and blindly follow steps without actually taking the time to understand what they're doing.
[Nexus 5 General] efrant:
I agree that there are many cases when updating via an OTA update is not the easiest/best method, many of which you've mentioned.

I personally would say, though, that there are some cases for which flashing an OTA update

is

the easiest/best method for

experienced

users. Some examples are below:

User A: I do have root, and I have always applied OTA updates via TWRP without issue. I do so because I have tons of my apps/scripts installed in in the system partition (without having modified or deleted any of the original /system files). Flashing the OTA update file and then flashing SuperSU in TWRP is the easiest method for me as I do not have to re-install all my apps/scripts, like I would have to do if I flash the factory system image or flash a pre-rooted ROM. (I suppose I could create a recovery-flashable zip of all my apps/scripts, plug into a computer, flash the system image, flash SuperSU, flash my zip, but that would take much more time and effort than just installing the OTA update.)

User B: I am an extreme enthusiast and the OTA update link is already available, but the factory image is not yet available. I want the latest version of Android on my device now, not in 24 hours from now or even 1 hour from now or 10 minutes from now!

User C: I do not readily have access to a computer, but I want to update my phone. I know how to flash an OTA update file via my custom recovery and retain my root access because I am an experienced user and I also have done it many times in the past.

The cases mentioned above are far too common, and the above-mentioned users are obviously not n00bs. It's not as clear-cut as saying OTAs are bad and are for n00bs.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Its true. I just got a bit fed up of the same questions. Usually I just paste the same answer for questions that get asked a lot but this time I thought it might help to just link back here and others can do it too.

I've never had an issue either. I've been doing this a long time to be fair, but I just got stuck in and learned. I'm hoping people will ask advice here and we can share our experiences to help more people understand what it is to be rooted and to manage it properly.
[Nexus 5 General] stylazation:
Thanks, I'll back up apps using titanium then save the backup on PC. Flash the update on existing preview wiping everything then reboot download titanium get my apps back and will see of it over comes the errors. I don't get Mich errors but Google plus crashes on me without even launching. And I have this 3G issue that goes from H to edge third in settings or testing selecting "only wcdma" option reverts back to "wcdma preffered" no matter how many times you choose it. I was guessing it was because of developer preview as I didn't update to 9002 patch as the actual 5.0 is around the corner. I'll follow your instructions and will update.
[Nexus 5 General] Citizen_Snips:
If you're going to wipe everything, copy the contents of your internal storage (/sdcard) to your PC. Titanium will backup your apps and their data. A nandroid will backup your system, but not the contents of the SDcard. So if you don't want to lose all your stuff I'd backup to PC. This includes all your photos, music, everything. Backup everything in /sdcard to a PC if you plan on wiping completely clean. Nandroid doesn't save that stuff.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Thanks for your input as always.

You do mention that these scenarios are too common, but I find them to be fringe cases on The nexus 5. However, the implication of your post is that I am blanket saying that OTA's are for noobs, but I am saying it in the context of this thread as set out in the opening statement

I also elude to this context throughout the thread

The thread is to address the cases where people are asking how to return to stock to receive OTA updates. The thread is aimed at noobs, not experienced members. Those who know what they're doing and are comfortable doing that are fine and don't flood the forum with the questions we must repeatedly answer. The thread here servers as a quick reference for those who don't yet understand the options available to them and want to waste their time doing the longest and most pointless route
[Nexus 5 General] stylazation:
Yes I will save all internal storage data to pc.

Make nandroid for backup if something goes wrong for revert purposes.

Titanium back up for user installed apps.

Don't need texts and will sync contacts via google after getting a stock official 5.0. I think that's pretty much it.
[Nexus 5 General] and313:
Nice explanation on how ota updates work! I always thought an ota works the same as flashing a factory image without wiping data and sd
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Thanks. Nope. Just a "delta" or "difference between"
[Nexus 5 General] unster:
Hi! Thanks for great explanation. I've question regarding that part:

Do you have exact link to topic with such ROM images? There are a lot of them and I am not sure where should I look for updates... Thanks in advance!
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
The factory image of official is not available yet for Lollipop. There are links to pre-rooted zips available in "sticky roll-up" thread in general forum. These threads will be updated when official. If the threads are not updated, I will put new links up.
[Nexus 5 General] MunstersRebel:
Thank you very much for this
[Nexus 5 General] capocha:
So if i want to update from 4.4.4 rooted to 5.0 lollipop non rooted i need to flash the 4.4.4 factory images first or i can flash 5.0 directly?

Thanks for al the useful information!
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Again.
[Nexus 5 General] dannstarr:
Nice post, and it needed saying!

It seems that many people want to go back to stock and get their OTA as it's seen as the "proper" way to update.... which could not be further from the truth!
[Nexus 5 General] :
Excellent info here.... Great job as usual [MENTION=2872010]rootSU[/MENTION] ! ?

One question.... Can you tell me why I'm not getting the N5 OTA on my M8....do I need to get rid of twrp? ?
[Nexus 5 General] danishkz94:
hey...i recently rooted my grand 2....nd i want to factry reset my phone...so can i factry reset...evn if my phone is rooted...pls help asap...
[Nexus 5 General] :
I would strongly recommend that you ask in your device section,

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-grand-2/help
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
sure, youll just lose all your data. thats what happens with a factory reset, everything stays the same(root stays) but you lose all your data.
[Nexus 5 General] danishkz94:
so shld i perfrm a factry rest frm the recovery....or i can do it frm settings
[Nexus 5 General] Citizen_Snips:
Not sure if trolling or serious...
[Nexus 5 General] theme813:
Well said! Props!!!
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
recovery

---------- Post added at 11:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:20 PM ----------

oh, i dirty flashed aosp lollipop over rastakat/trinity 444 on my nexus 4, and all went. even the pulldown notification works fine :victory:
[Nexus 5 General] btyspm123:
just confirming

hi,

to keep it short, just want to confirm the method i should use to update to 5 when its released. im rooted with twrp but zero mods/changes to sysfiles. i only rooted in order to install sixaxis controller, thats it. my objective is to not need to reinstall my apps/gamesaves/media post upgrade. After reading a lot i believe my best bet is to flash the OTA zip from twrp when its available? is that correct?
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
It *can* be done. As you know from this thread, I'm not a fan of OTA updates under any circumstances. Its your choice. There's no guarantee that you won't have to wipe.
[Nexus 5 General] seandorsman:
Great post!

Great job! This should be posted at like every rootable phone/tablet's forum though, would save so many questions

Thanks!
[Nexus 5 General] ironia.:
thanks for the guide...

also i'm not an OT fan, but btw why don't give it a choice??

i'm with twrp+xposed+root....

so before wipe and install the whole L factory...

i will try uninstall xposed +flash OTA with TWRP

it's just a try....
[Nexus 5 General] :
You can't flash ota with twrp.... Or let the Ota install automatically.

You need stock recovery.

Or wait a brief time and there are sure to custom recovery zip versions out.
[Nexus 5 General] ironia.:
from a sticky guide:

Section B: Flashing in a Custom Recovery (TWRP- CWM)

1) Download the OTA.zip and copy to your phone.

2) Boot into recovery.

3) Flash the OTA just like you would a ROM.

4) Reboot.

with L is different???
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Why are you asking how to take an OTA in a thread which is for NOT taking an OTA and doing it properly?
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
It will work but its the long way round. Why fly from London to Moscow to get to Paris?
[Nexus 5 General] ironia.:
I agrree it's not the easier way...but is possible or not flashing in twrp??
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Yes it is possible. Just "wrong"
[Nexus 5 General] ironia.:
IT'S JUST AN OPINION like many other posted...
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Post it in the actual OTA thread. Not the thread which tells you not to take OTAs lol
[Nexus 5 General] ironia.:
i think you agree that It's a bit confusion say it's possible with twrp (into sticky guide) and it's possible only with stock recovery
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
I at no point said it was only possible with stock recovery.
[Nexus 5 General] :
I'm not sure why some insist on making things difficult... Usually just to avoid fastboot/adb. ?
[Nexus 5 General] efrant:
That is not correct.

Because in many cases it doesn't make things difficult.

In the context of what the OP was trying to say with respect to using OTA updates IFF (i.e., if and only if) you have modified your system files and are trying to return to stock solely to accept an OTA, then yes, in that specific case, the OTA update method is not for you, as it is the "long way around".

However, if you have

not

modified your system files, then the OTA update method

is

much easier and faster. Flashing a stock ROM zip or using fastboot is the "long way around". And in this case, flashing an OTA update is not subject to having more issues than flashing a ROM zip or anything else.

Things don't fall into a simplistic paradigm of good/bad or easy/difficult. It depends on the situation, and that's the point that hasn't been getting across in general.
[Nexus 5 General] :
I agree with all you've said. ?

The only thing many of us try to get across is not to avoid Fastboot. It's an essential tool, especially with a Nexus. Even to get an OTA... Flashing just system and recovery with fastboot is a very quick way to get on track.

That's all my point was. Plus OTA's are definitely easy.... But a little like a Dirty rom flash. A major update like 5.0 would be a nice time to start fresh.... With all signs of kit Kat gone.

Just my opinion...... But again, you definitely are correct on everything. ?

Thanks [MENTION=1566190]efrant[/MENTION] ?
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Yes, exactly.

Flashing stock to get OTA is the long way around and what this thread is about.

OTA is no worse than flashing a ROM.zip without a wipe however, there is a misconception that it is better from a data integrity perspective... Eg "if i accept an OTA, I won't have to wipe but if I flash a ROM.zip, I will" when they're actually the same. The updater-script in official OTA (from Google at least, not sure about OEM) doesn't make any attempt to migrate any settings, or maintain compatibility
[Nexus 5 General] ironia.:
simply i have buy nexus 5 one month ago...so very clean except xposed and twrp/root

so i try first to install OTA and after if I have any issue I go straight to fastboot /factory images

i usually use fastboot for install adb and other stuff

have a good day guys!

tnx!
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
pointless to try and install the ota, you have xposed + twrp. it wont install, not in your best dreams. just install a precompiled version thatll allow root. much easier than doing anything else. just flash in your recovery and forget about everything else.