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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
The unlikeliness of the result we are looking for is irrelevant. Especially for the 30 seconds of time it takes to fill out the online petition. If enough people get on board and the government does decide to take action, Verizon could possibly be told that they have to comply. Now this is not saying they have to give you an unlock code for the phones themselves but they may be forced to stop telling motorolenovo they must lock the bootloader, or further allow them to give out the key to unlock it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
exactly, [MENTION=4816941]calarco3[/MENTION] . #unlockthedroids

[MENTION=5973699]the_rooter[/MENTION] , I look at it like this; Even if it goes nowhere, it takes only seconds to sign and share. As far as VZW is concerned, while they may not care, our numbers are exponential. If x is signatures and y is number of people we influence, x*10 is an understatement. Maybe you think it's a benign idea, and you are completely entitled to that idea. It only takes seconds to sign, though, and unless you were to have a vulnerability to sell, you have nothing to lose. I believe in this on a base level. I should not be told what I can and cannot do, so long as it does not infringe upon others. I have had 8 unlocked devices on the same big red toll-road. (See highway pun above). There is no reasonable argument to prevent unlock. Our impact is far larger than anyone is calculating at the present., I hope i can count on your signature. #unlockthedroids
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Verizon was one of the companies that was against net neutrality, yes, and lost. However, that affects everyone in the US and was in direct challenge to the FTC, a governmental organization that makes the rules regarding it. Verizon also was part of the consortium that opposed mandatory encryption in http /2, something that has a global effect and they stand victors with Microsoft and Cisco. The government didn't step in, and it did not involve the government as far as I know.

I encourage everyone to sign the petition and give it a shot

, but the government will not (and should not) intervene with legal non-government business practices, especially those who affect only Verizon's customers and a infinitesimally small subset of them at that. Government involvement in typical day-to-day businesses is a bad thing; we have already lost enough liberties (and no unlocked bootloader is worth government controlling business).

That said, enough signatures, and Verizon may take notice and consider changing their policies so I say go for it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
Getting 100000 signatures may be enough to show Verizon that there is a significant number of people who care. Granted that may not be a huge number to their customer base but it is a significant one. Even if the government doesn't decide to even acknowledge the petition. Lets say to make it easy math wise that the total number of subscribers is 100M. If 100K people let them know that they aren't happy I'd find it hard to believe verizon wouldn't at least take notice to that. Again this is a .1% number of subscribers but say everyone is paying about 100 bucks a month. Then your talking about $10M. Not a back breaker for verizon but they don't want to just piss that away.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
a smart company wants to piss nothing away if it costs them nothing. also, a smart company would realize the benefit of allowing the user to void their warranty. ;)

EDIT: this thread has 182,000+ views.. wish i knew how many there were before #unlockthedroids ;)

EDIT 2: the msm8960dt unlock thread has a similar count, so definitely a moot point, but perhaps its good to be able to see how many more views it gets in the next 27 days.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] poncespr:
Signed.

:good:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
http://xdaforums.com/android/general/life-liberty-pursuit-root-t3050213

Literally, this is not what i had been writing, but i think time is of the essence, and I am too OCD to spend even a week writing a proper article. Hopefully, this can be copy pasted a whole bunch of times. :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pborner:
Signed
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rpitera:
Well written. It would be great if XDA put it on the portal page. Certainly worthy of it and the exposure would help...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
if i had friends in higher places, it would already be there. unfortunately, the majority of my time here has been spent lurking, not posting, so i dont have that kind of clout. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
Signed
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
We should close this thread
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
If it's getting good press then it should stay. Maybe moved to proper section

sent from my handcuffed droid turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
Why is that man?

Edit: This thread has had 2000 more views since i mentioned the view count.

The other one is at 236.

Unless.... you figured out BL unlock!!! Claim the bounty!! Yes!!!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
Ha ha. Yeah. I guess youre right. It has been 3 days and VZW hasn't flipped the switch for bl.unlock.

All sarcasm aside, man, no one is forcing you to be here, in this thread. Heck, even the OP got the ___ out. It is only pointless when we all give up or simply stand by waiting for an exploit that no one capable cares enough to devote the time to. I am not a security expert. What skillset I do have, I am spending my time applying, and honestly, it isnt pointless yet. As of two days ago, this http://lmgtfy.com/?q=#unlockthedroids yielded nothing. Zero pages including "omitted results" Yesterday, with omitted it was 4. The day before 2. You may think it is pointless, or even take the point of view that it 'is never gonna work, so why bother', and by all means, you are entitled to that position. But honestly, it shifted this thread back into something productive that pushes towards the same common goal, and actually chilled out a lot of the animosity that was prevalent before. I can only speak to this point on behalf of myself, but in my (equally important as yours), point of view, at the moment, you are the only one not contributing something to the overall effort in this thread. There are plenty of threads you can feel free to go knit-pick. This is no longer one of them. Sometimes a train-wreck can make a new tunnel.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
Well said

sent from my handcuffed droid turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
http://youtu.be/NGYRAQB6Xuo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] maiko1:
Rooted

youtu.be/iFvQe86PmTI
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] diabl0w:
Well everything points to BS besides the username being disekt which is a CTF computer security team
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JBag77:
Has anyone tried this Kingo root method on turbo?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Tru7h:
Yea, I definitely would not trust that application. The Google ADB driver isn't from a Korean publisher. It initially passes a virus scan, but then it downloads additional packages.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cascade128:
Is it real?:confused:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
Was the exploit posted on xda? No so its not real.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] golgothagecko:
How does this video point to BS? You can clearly see the phone, model # and version from the app.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
It doesn't prove it either. I too can make the app do that with a little modification.

Lets see some custom software changes, or su from adb.

It might be real, but I will not assume it is.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] golgothagecko:
The SU icon was present in the top tray if you bothered to look.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
You guys act like its hard to fake this stuff. Like I said, I won't dismiss it, but I am not believing it yet either. I know how easy it is to fake this stuff.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] diabl0w:
thats what i was getting at... achieving root would not have a 15 second video woth disabled comments. it looks like he just modified the apk to have the app say it is rooted no matter what... just another video to stir up some ****
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] maiko1:
It is real. We'll be releasing it soon.

Dunno what to show that couldn't be considered BS, so I guess you'll just have to wait and see.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
My check book is open ready to pay out my bounty even tho it's no longer being maintained

sent from my handcuffed droid turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] diabl0w:
someone that knows how to root a phone should know that there are better ways to prove achieving root... maybe modifying some root files? or adb su at least. I am excited to see the release you have! but also very surprised someone who could root a phone doesnt know how to show it without rootchecker app
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
If what you say is true i am all giddy with excitement. and i agree there is nothing you could show except the actual procedure to prove anything really. i anticipate seeing your results and using it.

---------- Post added at 09:06 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:04 AM ----------

even if he did do that, than the story would be he used another phone. there really is nothing that can be shown over a video to prove root. only thing is here do this, this and this and for us to see root ourselves.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] maiko1:
This:

Using rootchecker is easy and clear, so I don't waste time making a fancy video that no one believes anyway. Since I have no reputation here, I'll be nice and make one more video with adb su.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
I have seen so many videos regarding turbo and root. i just want root not a video of it. i am hoping you can deliver root before verizon delivers lollipop....i htink you got some time still
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
Hey if he releases a working root method kudos to him.. If not. Smh
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
Well, if it works, I dont really care how you display it, man. Same when we get bootloader unlock. when it happens, i really don't care how it does, so long as it does.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Ekkoria:
Agreed. If this is legit, thank you for your hard work and I can't wait to see the results.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
and to all who havent, sign the petition anyway, bc bootloader unlock should be a given. we have already lost months of development time on the Turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cascade128:
Why are you yelling at small children:crying:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] maiko1:
Video with adb shell getting root and changing permissions of a root owned block device. Stuff on left is commands for copy paste to avoid one handed typing. No more vids for now.

youtu.be/X-eh5Qo2ifo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
i do not know about you all but i am getting kinda excited here
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] nshawn43:
Please please tell us how

Please please tell us how you got root... im dieing here!!!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] golgothagecko:
I wet my pants.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mdav07:
I hope its real. Is it jcase? He would know!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
that's what she said. ;) but seriously, that is bad ace. how likely is bl unlock if [MENTION=5697730]maiko1[/MENTION] shares? (and claims a good bit of bounty) [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] ?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ceelos218:
such a tease.. i hope this is real man.. im dying for some Xposed framework.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
this radio silence is a good sign. usually if something is fake there are like 6 people ripping on the obvioius falsehood. so those people either cant find fault or they have decided to bombard the guy with PM asking for the exploit. i just got to say take my money
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GreaterLesser:
I'm usually one of those 6 because I'm skeptic of someone posting faked images (or false claims) and doing nothing more to provide evidence of actually rooting the DT. This instance is slightly different because he provided a full length video of the procedure of actually gaining root access. So I for one have no reason to claim falsehood on this when good evidence has been given. ( I do apologize if this post might sound defensive and /or sound like an attack. That was not the intent behind this post, only providing reason why I'm not "ranting and raving" that this is not true root. Also to differentiate between this root claim versus previous claims of rooting the DT. )
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
I appreciate people like you. i am not a hard core dev and i do not know much, but i can tell when people know what they are talking about and when they dont. so as i said, your silence leads me to believe this is more and more legit. take my money maiko
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] REDEMP666:
It would be cool to have root on such a powerful phone!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Yabbakinz:
Oh ma glob... if this is real I will honestly piss myself
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] danger2u:
my body is ready

and i am ready to donate some cash to the developer that make root on Droid turbo.

hope it s real

after watching the 2 videos seems legit

and i hope it will be released here on Xda by the owner of the method
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mdav07:
If its real and I get root on my turbo I have no problem giving 30 bones to the one who makes it happen
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] danger2u:
if the method it s working and it s stable ,please release it now untill Verizon updates to 5.1 the Droid turbo.

because many of users will update to Lollipop for sure.

one question for the owner of root:it s permanent ?

or when u reboot u must do the entire stuff again?

thanks
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
thank you [MENTION=5697730]maiko1[/MENTION] patiently waiting
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ceelos218:
Waiting for Jcase's Thought on this... :fingers-crossed:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] -Michael_:
Waiting for release, waiting to pay up what i pledged. Eager to get xposed up and running. And pay the bounty.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] matheus_sc:
Maybe open another bounty will help
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jaben2:
I'm sure that a good portion of pledges would still pay. I would at least. Was actually starting to look at new phone's getting ready to give up. Hopefully this is for real.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
i spent an hour total messaging back and forth with vzw support on twatter trying to get them to justify why we cant have bl unlock. (they dont have a reason, btw) ;) then i saw this. ;) day.made.

addendum: and then i saw this: https://anonhq.com/anonymous-message-to-kanye-west/ right before i saw this is confirmed. i didnt even have to use my a.k...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Lt. Capt.:
I know I will still pay. I think I originally only pledged for unlock, but I'll throw down for root too

Sent from my ♿ turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
No ways to prove it without releasing a POC, period.

My hunch is this is legit, but I have nothing to back that feeling.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
I'm an eternal skeptic. That said, if real, I hope the people who pledged follow through like the last couple of posters.

That would be rather pathetic if the bounty didn't happen.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Gut says legit, but I have nothing to go on.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Ok correction, it is legit.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mdav07:
Thank u jesus
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] diabl0w:
is this real life? :cyclops:

edit: i feel like a little kid on christmas eve
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GreaterLesser:
Then I'll be the first to say it: Let there be root
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wifnhzivxllo:
This just made my day!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
Let us all rejoice root has come
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Javiggan69:
Whats The system versión?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Yabbakinz:
Just sayin... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYpz3abAk98
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bowers41:
So...

Not to seem impatient, but since/if there is root, what is the delay? Is there a process to go through with releasing it or is this based solely on timing of the founder? Is he setting up his new bank account for the hundreds of deposits first or what? (only humor) but seriously, the question is the same.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
dude, seriously, we've waited this long, don't be that guy...breaking the first rule...ETA...we are all excited. kill some time..like a day or two. it wont be instant.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PittAussie:
I am not on the bounty list, but count me for $10 for root too.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GreaterLesser:
Is it me or is the suspense starting to get everyone? This is what happens when people are deprived of Root. Haha
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Completely patient here ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rpitera:
For the record, I would be happy to stick by my original bounty pledge for root. Very f##king happy. Ecstatic even. Please make my birthday wishes come true...

Edit: Just checked and my pledge was 25 for root. If this is real, I'll add anther 10.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mdav07:
This has me thinking of all who didn't have patience, an got rid of their turbo. Oh well I still have mine.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] smokie75:
Can you elaborate just a bit on what convinced you [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION]?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GreaterLesser:
I am as well. I was just commenting on the level of energy that is present in this one thread. It's the highest amount of activity this thread has had in a single night as far as I've seen. Everyone is so......."stoked" lol
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] -Michael_:
I cant wait to pay! And root!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
I've sat down to a meal with the author before.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
Root is useless with out write protection off..
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GreaterLesser:
Jcase were you the one who helped Matt make the root kit for the OG Droid RAZR or am I thinking of someone else?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Says someone who has never used xposed.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GreaterLesser:
One step at a time my friend. Consider it progress :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
I have no idea, I've lost track of what ive worked on.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GreaterLesser:
I only ask because your UN seems familiar from a device I rooted a while ago with that rootkit and I think I remember seeing your UN as a thankful mention. Either just wanted to confirm. I'll find the thread and confirm it there. Thanks
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
I dont normally work with people woring on kits, but its entirely possible. Link me to it and ill tell you.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
Actually I have... Before my turbo I had a unlocked droid maxx
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bowers41:
I'm going to cry if this doesn't work on my XT1250.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Then you know what you said was untrue.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GreaterLesser:
Nvm. I was mistaken sorry for the confusion. It seems I still had the toolkit on my laptop. Guy's UN was DJrBliss.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Aaron!:
Perfect timing. I'm trying to Nandroid / Titanium Backup + Restore my wife's Droid Mini that she just got the replacement for. Of all days to go looking for a 4.4.4 root, today must have been lucky.

Friday the 13th I'm ready.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gqskrub:
I don't know about you guys, but this post sent shivers through my body.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
Gave me a bit of a chubby

sent from my handcuffed droid turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
Looks like i may need to update this thread. wow.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
Might be easier to start over
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] SREEPRAJAY:
Members,

Please watch your language.

What might seem funny, casual and normal may not be the same for another.

\Be sensible, reasonable and responsible. In clear terms, be a human yourself and to others as well.

Thanks
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
Yeah, that is Dan Rosenberg. http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...d-of-an-era-for-motorola-rooting-and-modding/
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] burmjohn:
Ready to pay!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GreaterLesser:
Yea I remember now - Thanks. Again sorry for the confusion.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
i wasnt trying to be a jerk or anything, man. ;) dude has made root for all of my moto devices prior to the msm8960dt line, so its a hard name to forget.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
Yes, I think you're right actually. there are SO many pages of unrelated posts now, its impossible to compile.

I see someone else started up a new bounty thread, so thats where everyone should go.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
is it not possible to make a tool like sunshine with this guy [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] and avoid the whole pledge/bounty system?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
Ok I know know this stuff is easy to fake but everything is worth investigating imo. Hadn't seen this one till today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-eh5Qo2ifo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
if u go back a few pages this has already been posted
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
Oh OK. My bad. It said the video was uploaded yesterday so I thought it hadn't been posted about yet. Oh well.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
I added the two videos for you. Since he is a new member he couldn't post the links. Just copy the ones above and it will take you to both. The second one was request by xda members which he brought to us.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
Oh OK thanks. So any hope to these or just BS again?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] karan.mangtani:
Thanks and regards

Karan Mangtani
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
Above jcase stated it looks real. Only time will tell.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
If you go back and read you will see this seems legit we now just wait for it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
Ok awesome. A glimmer of hope to keep me going LOL. Sorry for revisiting this. I've been following this thread pretty close but been really busy for a few days and guess I just missed it the first time.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ahaynes42:
I still stand by my original pledge. This phone with root would be the phone I've always dreamed of!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] orangechoochoo:
This is great news! I was getting ready to get the Nexus 6 but now I'm going to hold off to see if this is true and that jcase could unlock this bad boy.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
Did we get this answered yet? This temp or permanent root?

sent from my handcuffed droid turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cyrushehe:
Maybe he's just saving it trying to get bl unlock before someone else does. IMO that's perfectly reasonable.