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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] twinkyz1979:
I think the ability to root this device brings us 1 step closer to being BL unlocked.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
I hope so
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ScottIsMyName:
Being the same spec wise makes it no easier. They have different signatures, so nothing will flash unless it was meant for the Turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
They probably said the same thing about moto x and the droid maxx was my logic. Idk man. The most trusted source I know on fxzs said the same thing. It just is that no one has definitely bricked doing it yet. Perhaps an experiment for when the turbo is cheap with a cracked screen.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
I would pay for both AFAIK, no one has reverse engineered sunshine.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lafont28:
I'm just curious, has anyone seen or heard any feedback from the Dev since the videos were posted?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
Not a peep

sent from my handcuffed droid turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
I am Jack's total lack of surprise.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lafont28:
I hope that's not a bad sign
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Jaocagomez:
I think he it's holding off, waiting for Motorola to release lollipop 5.1 or 5.0 to avoid getting the root method patched fast, that's what I would do
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
who knows maybe motorola is doing the same thing to get this patched. highly unlikely but who knows
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] 123421342:
They wouldn't because it can be patched with an update. They probably already know about it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] :
Thing is, unless Motorola knows what the exploit is and how it's used, they may not have a clue as to how to patch. So holding off to release until after 5.1 is perhaps a good thing.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rpitera:
Hmmm. The first rule of root exploit is don't talk about root exploit?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
Yeah, I guarantee you Moto knows. I also don't think they care at all. They have people that are "XDA members" for support issues, so they recognize the importance (or abilities) of the people here. I mean, honestly, if they pay people to do support in a place where there are far more qualified (or knowledgeable, at least) members here, I promise you they keep tabs on what development happens.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
Or he is developing a paid system like Sunshine so he can get compensated for his work.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rpitera:
I hope so. I was just joking back to kit with my Fight Club reference but with all the people backing off their pledges I would be glad to pay for an app like Sunshine for the Turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cstone1991:
I hope that it goes that way. Sure, free root methods are cool, but we already have a pretty small number of qualified people to find these exploits. I want them to be rewarded for their time to make it worth their while so that, hopefully, they will continue.

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I just stumbled across this article: http://customstoday.com.pk/motorola...ipop-update-for-droid-turbo-moto-g-moto-x-48/
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
Yeah, I am a big Chuck Palahniuk fan. The Fight Club 2 stuff comes out in May.

As far as bounty goes, [something like, if not a partnered iteration of sunshine] is about the only way it is worthwhile *if* as I have said a few times now, money is the motivation.

There are people that compete at various levels (e.g - CTF) and it wouldn't be far fetched to say that it is possible dude just wanted to prove he could do it and cares less about the money. Mind you, the result was posted in a bounty thread, so it is fair to assume the money matters.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Im Saint:
I think it's fair to assume money matters. Assuming the group attempting gain root is not funded company.. who is going to pay for all the bricked devices in the process? There was a post in the other thread mentioning that two devices had been bricked already. That would make money motivate me!

Furthermore, if you have ever tried finding an exploit for your own device (for me it was the OG Droid back in 2010) I find a sort of "thrill of the hunt" when you finally find a way to gain write privelages. That may just be me, but I know some guys who really enjoy that.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] timmyk465:
Not to put a damper on your post or to say the actual people developing root haven't bricked a device, but the guy who posted about bricking two devices and not wanting to release the root method because people are mean is a troll.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Im Saint:
Oh no doubt, I merely meant to use it as an example. Without visible proof, I generally take the image people put for themselves on the internet with a grain of salt. i.e. two bricked devices? Show me two bricked devices.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
Indeed. The D1 did have an unlocked bootloader, though, so literally a few files (busy box, su, etc) and ADB command lines, and voila! Root, custom recovery, and awesomeness. (Pete Alfonso and Chevyno1's oc uv kernels made me love android ).

It makes sense though. There is definitely cost involved, even if it is only time, as one can only imagine what companies pay for the services of someone capable.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rpitera:
Motorola Engineer Posts that Turbo will go straight to 5.1

Click for Android Police article posted a few moments ago...

Excerpt:

Motorola software engineer Luciano Carvalho (whom we've quoted before) couldn't help correcting a clickbait headline on a Google+ post, and let it slip that the DROID Turbo is going to be upgraded straight to Android 5.1. That's good news for people who like a ton of bug fixes and user interface tweaks that make Lollipop better all around. Since Motorola's phones run about as close to stock as anything not made by Google itself, it should make an already good phone considerably better.

"Droid Turbo is going to be updated to 5.1 ... The bug free part is a complete invention on their part... a complex software running on a complex hardware, with thousands of different environment conditions and thousands of usage variations, currently, it's nearly impossible to make it bug free.﻿"​

Apparently the decision was made specifically so the Turbo can take advantage of the native Voice Over LTE support in Android 5.1:

"Verizon demands VoLTE support and 5.1 brings it to the platform. Basically it... Porting all the VoLTE changes to 5.0 and then switch to the AOSP solution on 5.1 would be a huge waste of resources.﻿"​

The bad news is that there's still no timeframe for the update's rollout. It could be next week or a month after Android 5.2 is announced. But you really weren't expecting anything different, were you?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
nope, indeed i wasn't and dont care. i am hoping maiko1 can give us root and if not him, then jcase give us bootloader UL then devs can give us cyanogenmod. then our phone will be awesome. whether we get lollipop from motorola or not
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] r3pwn:
Jcase has already stated multiple times that he will not be working on the Turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cstone1991:
When asked about Sunshine after he confirmed that this root method is real he also said something along the lines of "it won't work on the turbo... yet". I don't mean to put words in his mouth, but I think when he said that he won't be working on the Turbo he meant that at that time he had no plans to do so. It is entirely possible that something (maybe this root method) changed his mind. His commend about Sunshine not working for us "yet" leads me to believe that he is probably at least considering giving it a shot now.

Once again, I'm not trying to put words in his mouth. I don't personally know jcase and don't have any more information than he has posted in the open here. This is just my interpretation of the information he has given us.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
This was exactly how I took the "...yet". obviously as [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] corrected me on earlier in this thread, he is *not* "working with [MENTION=5697730]maiko1[/MENTION] ".

I hate to say it guys, but looking at no cm software for the xt1225 and no published root, nay bootloader unlock for the turbo, I do not think custom ROMs will be around anytime soon. Hopefully, this happens sooner than later.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
Yet.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
Pretty sure we won't get root anytime soon
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Droidavie:
Blasphemy
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
Not as blasphemous as this: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=201309754367&alt=web

Unfortunately, [MENTION=5329208]PILLMUZIK3600[/MENTION] , I concur. New bounty is growing, but it is logical to assume it will be quite some time before BL unlock happens. That being said, hopefully bounty or some means will kick development up. We are a quarter into 2015. It is safe to presume a new Moto will come out in the next 6 months or so, 9 tops.

CM doesn't have anything for the xt1225. Hopefully there will be some sort of interchangeability with the N6 or something. (I think that is all that saved the Ultra/Maxx/Mini)

Hopefully, that will change faster on this generation.

Unless this happens quick, the window may close too soon to have much custom anything. Root is great, but themes and custom rom features are a must-have for me. (I do mean without having to use GB and xposed, as no themes I use run work well, some, not at alll, without adding weight, needing tweaking, and generally being a PITA for something that should be simple.)

That being said, this is the finest piece of android hardware I have ever owned. I wish the people that have followers and pull would have latched on to a mass movement to sway the 2 companies involved to at least consider BL unlocking those that are capable. Maybe Moto will take a genuine interest in broadening the developer base.

;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] MoPhoMike:
[MENTION=5697730]maiko1[/MENTION]: I have a bone STOCK 32G BN turbo on the original release before the VoLTE update. If you need me to try some stuff, PM me and I will do/run any scripts to provide verification and additional devices. I actually have 2 Turbos, a 32 and a 64. The 64 is at the latest 21.44.12 release. I am not afraid of bricking either phone....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] r3pwn:
Shhhh... I don't want people to get too hyped over it in case it doesn't even work.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kenbrownstone:
I'm lost ...Sorry ....I thought a root method was found a couple weeks ago...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] _tek_:
It was found a week ago today, we are waiting on the release of the info. He said final testing is being performed yesterday.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Mocha_Bean:
When and where did he say this?

I'm interested in where to get info.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] johnbravado:
look in the root achieved thread
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Ekkoria:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=59538437&postcount=259

That's about all the information that's available on it right now.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] _tek_:
Yes, root achieved thread here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3053250

Root Achieved
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Droidavie:
Its coming

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Unlike the second coming
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Mocha_Bean:
2edgy
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Droidavie:
Its how I get down
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] meanmug:
See anything wrong with this picture?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Cobra04:
Droidavie has been waiting for root for decades.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Mocha_Bean:
Your signal strength is a bit low.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
I missed something... ; )
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] X_man.:
LMAO :laugh:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] meanmug:
Droidavie is a looper
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Droidavie:
..... you must speak of this to noone

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I've come from the future to warn you about root... We cannot let it happen, I've come back to destroy [MENTION=5697730]maiko1[/MENTION]
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gqskrub:
Because rooted turbo was so awesome it blew up the world? Whoever posted about thermonuclear war was right!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GreaterLesser:
That was me lol
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] MoPhoMike:
And I have MINE!!

I have TWO Turbos to play with. VERY, VERY excited to truly CUSTOMIZE my phones!! WooHoo!! **"giddy, giddy"**
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] atm0sphere:
Hi guys -

I need to dig through and make good on my pledge.

WOOOOOO!!! WHO DID IT?!

I need to find this guy and pay him.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] r3pwn:
The root isn't out yet AFAIK.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
That's correct. It has been a little slow with traffic on here lately and I check literally every post with giddy anticipation. When [MENTION=5697730]maiko1[/MENTION] posts his method there, I imagine, will be an explosion if activity. There is also another bounty thread that has started with a up to date pledge list if you want to make sure it is counted.

sent from my handcuffed droid turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] atm0sphere:
I see that. I still need root though.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] btreu1:
Anyone checked this out yet? http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/general/mofo-root-turbo-t3064404
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
yup. legit. if ya dont know how to take apart and customize a system.img there is going to be a learning curve, but fortunately, there are a couple (ha ha) of people around here that can. no wp off, but the ability to mod and flash your system.img is golden. still, i say, come on bl unlock!!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
sorry for the dp in this dead thread, but why doesn't someone just hack the unlock server? ;) (joking...don't get mad)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] windraver:
Its probably safer to hack our own devices rather than hack Motorola's server.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
yessir. I agree. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] DireWolfAlpha:
someone needs to figure out the algorithm that yields the BL unlock code. The code is probably dependent on your phones serial/IMEI
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
We tried that on the Droid Ultra forum and it didn't work, lol! In fact, a motorola rep started posting on the thread, lol!

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This has been discussed ad nauseum. There are too many digits and too many letters/numbers per digit to try to go through all of the combinations and there have been many threads where people posted their IMEIs and unlock codes to try to figure it out but no luck.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] DireWolfAlpha:
We just need to grease the hands of our Chinese friends
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Getting your data submitted is the easy part. Their initial checks are elementary JavaScript.

Getting a response is the problem.

When you register your device, it looks at the type of IMEI it is and if it fits Verizon's range ( i believe its 99000blahblah), it blacklists it.

I believe Jules tried this and it worked with a dev edition, so its hitting the right database:

http://adryntesting.x10host.com/

I bypassed their initial checks. I'm relatively certain you won't have any luck with it, but give it a shot if you want ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
I had seen where there was a group trying to grab imeis and unlock codes to match them up. it is a good idea, but it is very time consuming, and given a large sample would still take more time. (the source knew what he was talking about, I'm sure). beyond keygen for unlock, I had looked at faking out the moto website by trying to flash an unlockable phones fxz. that would also fail for many reasons. (bl, cid, imei, gpt.bin,...)

Ultimately, the next thought was well, they have to program them somehow.

I read up about people who droidbrick I mean, bricked their device intentionally to use factory tools, but ultimately, without someone from Moto feeding us files (they aren't standard fxz's) we don't stand a chance there despite not actually having to have physical hardware to do so.

I want to learn more about the factory flashing tools and the modes I haven't used in my BL, as I realize that is the lock that I will probably never have a key to. nonetheless, it is interesting to see where older phones on 4.4 have been unlocked with a hardware/software combo.

My joke was pretty much along the lines of this:

If anonymous wantes bl unlock for all, it would ve a reality in a few days tops. getting past qfuse, cid, qprst, etc Is far more difficult. there could be a window if time all unlock requests would just be given the code. ;)

mind you, this will never happen. I just was thinking it is probably easier. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
Yup, that is what I was hoping for but a lot of us have reached out to the code sellers for the Moto X 2013 and we have had no luck in getting anyone who could provide codes.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gqskrub:
Sounds EZPZ I'll get started right away.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
you know the funny thing about the dev edition I had? it always showed up as an Ultra. no Maxx, no Dev, just an Ultra. whenever I spoke to Moto about it, though, they instantly knew it was a dev edition like there was an extra number or a sequence within it. (they didn't have time to type on at least 2 instances). I may be dreaming again, but I do think it is possible. I just remember (I think jcase) saying how impossible it was.

if there was a way to rule out codes, versus trying to find them for a specific model, it would be easier.

by the way adrenalyne, I love that tool. I ran it for poops and giggles just to see.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
I had some free time one weekend ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
edit: I never did compare my imei to a normal xt1080...ebay, don't fail me now..
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] DireWolfAlpha:
Call up the factory and tell them they make million dorra. Fool proof
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
Yeah, I tried it with a Dev Ed and it works. It's all documented on that Droid Ultra thread.

I think the bottom line is that the Verizon Moto X 2014 and Droid Turbo unlock codes aren't in that database :(
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
while those are not in there, the gpe edition (for yours) and the moto maxx (xt1250 for me) are.

literally, we need a new chinaman. if models didnt exist (or weren't in production) then it would be hopeless. remember how the 2013 models went out but some 2014 still worked? ;) idk. just another crazy stupid theory on my part. ;)

looking at random imeis, my dev maxz number has many 0000s .

99000xxx0000x0x maybe that's how. guess I will nevee know.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] DireWolfAlpha:
Some one who speaks Chinese should call and work something out.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
honestly, man, I don't think the "china man" method was anyone in china. I think it was just a means to make tracking them down more difficult, just in case moto caught on. it had to be database entry.

if not, though, that would explain all the dev phones people couldn't unlock they bought from "the ebay seller in September 2014"- moto developer forums.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
It was a database - a database at the chinese factory.

I am convinced that the online accessible database does not contain the unlock codes for the Verizon Moto X 2014 and the Droid line. But the factory database does have those codes. But access to the factory database depends on manufacture date, that is why the chinese code sellers couldn't produce codes for certain Moto X 2013 manufacture dates.

I got one of those and like many others, I got the unlock code on the first try. I think the online accessible database is not complete and that is why sometimes a Dev Ed device doesn't get an unlock code from it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
If its anything like what I do at work, the web service endpoint probably auto-exludes anything from Verizon.

So, same database, because absolutely nobody intelligent links a db directly to the net. I think they probably exclude at the BO level.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
This has been tried too. Chinese speakers have gotten in contact with the code sellers but no luck.

The codes stopped being available in temporal relationship to the Lenovo take over.

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But the Verizon Moto X 2013 were Verizon IMEIs and you could get the codes from the online accessible data base for those.

What is BO level?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
too bad this isn't hactivist worthy. ;(
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
hacking into an online database is likely a crime under federal law - those codes are intellectual property. But you have to define hacking - what was going on before wasn't hacking.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Anything Verizon and identified as Quark :p

BO is Business Object. It is the layer of logic in an application that calculates and handles the heavy lifting. It is a go-between for data and presentation.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
I know, council. ;) I'm not hacking anyones IP. just conveying I wish it happened. ;)

Hacking is hacking is hacking imo. idk.

The unlock code (or inherent ability to obtain the individual code for my personal device) is individual and creates zero monetary loss for any party involved. Damages would be really hard to define. Loss would as well. Exposing a flaw in security would actually be advantageous to all parties. ;) #warpedlogic
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JulesJam:
I wish Verizon would just let the manufacturers sell Dev Eds. Most people won't pay full price all at once for a $700 phone so they could be full retail only and they would only be bought by people like us.

I use my upgrades to flip iPhones. Those things sell like hotcakes. Then I use the profits towards buying the phones I really want!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
Verizon and ATT both need to relax on root. They wont though. Look at the evoloution of a phone through development on this plane. Then look at the handful of tiny inprovements that OTAs provide. This phone can easily be relavent and functional with AOSP/CM development for a long time. (far longer than a contract term). it is advantageous to have customers using phones that are crashing out before the upgrade is due to ensure resigning of contracts. the claims of network stability etc are sheer boosheet. they want us to be fools only knowing buzz words and crude specs. it is sad, though, bc 90% of the people I know just fall in line. ;)