yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
I think if this guy actually has an unlocked BL its bringing the thread more towards its original topic. So I said (back on track)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Rahel513:
Has anyone posted the current bounty on any android news sites to get the word out?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] DoctorB0NG:
This is a lost cause. Jump ship like many other have if you want an unlocked bootloader.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
Good for you if you think this. But also you have to realize that this phone has been out officially for about 2 months. Look how long it took for the s5 to get root. This kind of stuff doesn't happen over night. Get over yourself dude.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
I'm one of the culprits that derailed this thread a few days ago and a moderator had to clean it up. Let's not force them to do it again. stay on topic, there is another thread for discussions. Let's keep it simple for the op.

My original pledge was 25 root 50 boot loader.

Bump up root to 50 please.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] danger2u:
maybe u have a Moto Maxx with Verizon fimrware on it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] niilartey1:
Surely not.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] danger2u:
well if is true ,this is a good news for all

hope it really a progress what u saying
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Even if it's legit and someone manages to dump the bootloader, it won't be signed and therefore not flashable.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BladeRunner:
It likely wasn't unlocked by any "method" it was simply unlocked at the factory using its unlock code and never relocked for whatever reason. So, no, it would likely not be of any value.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] r3pwn:
/derail

O.o

That comment doesn't make any sense.

1) It is signed because he got it from the factory like that.

2) You guys can't flash anything anyways...

Well, actually, it's possible that it could help. I guided him through the process of dumping the bootloader for me and I am looking into it now. If any other developer wants to take a look at it, shoot me a PM.

/un-derail
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
1. Once you pull it off the phone, it isn't signed anymore. This isn't an apk, friend. Those that leak engineering bootloaders or unlocked bootloaders leak signed packages. Those that exploit bootloaders don't need them. You need an existing exploit to use anything you find in that bootloader, or a signed package that can be flashed.

2. We can flash anything signed from Motorola and in the right format. Point in case, the leaked stock RTM firmware.

I urge you to continue helping this guy in that it might lead to an unlocked bootloader once an exploit is discovered. Have you confirmed its a turbo? Because so far he has posted on a Xoom and a 2nd gen Tmobile Moto X.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] r3pwn:
I saw nothing specific to the Turbo in the bootloader. He did manage to install the Moto Maxx TWRP and have it boot without issues, though (same HW as the Turbo). So either he legitimately has an unlocked Turbo or is mistakingly calling the Turbo and it's the Droid Maxx. I'm sure he would know the difference, though. I mean it does (on some models) say "Verizon" on the back.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] androidhacker007:
Can't pledge money but I have a concept

Hi I read on another form that a verizion pen tester was going to call Moto get his turbo unlocked, he seemed like he new alot. He said he was going to ask Moto for a unlock code file.bin. After that post he never posted again(most likely got root and didn't share). I googled it a little bit more and the file.bin is a file you short of flash to the locked boot loader, if the file.bin has the right code/info it will unlock the boot loader. My though was, would it be possible to brutefource that. I don't think Moto put limit on how many times you can test a file.bin. If any devs know what I'm talking about and want to give it a try, pm me to let me know. I don't care about the $. I WANT ROOT!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] r3pwn:
There's someone else trying to write a bruteforcing script to try that exact thing. They have the whole algorithm worked out and everything.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Most likely got into deep doo doo, as if he really worked for the verizon security team, and did what he claimed, then he got caught.

His bruteforce idea was also non practical, and would not work in our life times with the technology available to us today.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] danger2u:
when u leave a coment all our hopes gone away :))))
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] androidhacker007:
Ok so how long will that take?

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So it is possible!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joshm.1219:
It's technically possible yes but as jcase mentioned, it would take billions of years to even have a decent chance at cracking it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rpitera:
Well I don't recall anyone stating billions of years. With all due respect, can anyone provide a calculation of probability? I mean absolutely no disrespect, especially to jcase, but can anyone provide the basis on which they are calculating this? The number of possibilities, combinations or anything?

Again, I'm not trying to be rude, a smart ass or anything else. It's a valid question, but no one has ever asked it. Everybody's just assumed that based on who's said it, it's true. I'm curious what the numbers actually are. Knowing may help.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
This is a breakdown for a 64 bit encryption. Just to give you a timeline idea

http://tjscott.net/crypto/64bitcrack.htm
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rpitera:
Thanks very much for this article; it's just what I was looking for to explain this logically for me. I appreciate your response. As I said, I wasn't trying to be a jerk or doubt anyone's word, I just wanted to understand it better. This truly helped.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calsurferpunk:
Those are all reasons exactly why I'm not putting a lot of time into the brute force method I posted about earlier. Unless I or someone else can help narrow down the possible codes, it would take far longer than humanly possible to wait. I'm still keeping it in the back of my mind in case I figure out some more definitive patterns, but looking at other solutions in the meantime.

I was able to reflash my phone with the previous firmware (21.21.15) without any consequences, so I'm looking to see if there is any way to flash a modified boot.img to get root (taking into account needing a valid signature) by possibly modifying it at the hex level. It might be a longshot as well, but worth try also. I have been able to extract the ramdisk and zimage (as anyone with the correct tools can do) and modify the build. prop, but I'm narrowing down the differences that doesn't let it flash at the moment.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] androidhacker007:
If this includes the kernel, you could talk to the guys that created towel root. The kernel most likely has the towel root exploit patched but what if you could remove the patch or deliberately put/create an vulnerability into the image, and reflash it. Then you could exploit it to gain root. Cross your fingers and hope it will let you reflash.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
You cannot reflash an unsigned kernel to deliver it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calsurferpunk:
I'm still learning how it works, but I don't know if the kernel is signed or not yet since I didn't change it at all. I'm guessing you are probably right and that it would need to be resigned (which I realize is from Motorola and not something I can recreate), but I'm curious if I can somehow manipulate that at the hex file level. You are probably right and it's most likely a longshot, but thanks for the confirmation on how that works.

Update: I looked through the format of the boot.img file before and after repacking it and it looks like the only difference is it incorrectly assigning a secondary (I think) address, a few bytes where are apparently unused (but I could change anyhow) a checksum line, and I think the secondary stage boot (which I don't know if it contains a validation signature). Here's hoping I can edit that and it let me boot it before and after I try changing the build.prop to give adb higher access. I won't hold my breath though since I'd be surprised if nobody has tried something similar.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] androidhacker007:
We might, and it doesn't just have to be the kernel. Has any one tried yet?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] matheus_sc:
If helps, this is my unlock code for moto maxx

4MPYOMC42NVTDN666GYK

My device already is unlocked and rooted
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] androidhacker007:
Can you post a second unlock code for a different Moto device. I want to look for patterns.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] matheus_sc:
I think you can get in twrp topic, i will try with some people.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] androidhacker007:
Do you at least know the device id for the Moto Max, eg... The droid turbos id is XT1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lafont28:
Droid Maxx unlock

44WV54EMBY2FOAKTL5DL
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] matheus_sc:
Xt1255 for moto maxx
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mdav07:
Droid Maxx code

L44IYKE5SLQH4NUEVPLH
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] androidhacker007:
Thanks, do you know of any other code names the Moto Max that Motorola might of used, like a code name before the device was released.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] matheus_sc:
Nope, maybe this helps
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] danger2u:
i think the only hope is an exploit in Lollipop or a man that works on Motorola like the cinese guy.

but in US u can lock the bootloader and keep it locked ?

there is no law to prevent this??
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
its been talked about before

http://www.androidcentral.com/verizons-response-fcc-about-bootloaders-surprises-nobody
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Yabbakinz:
I have been following this post for a while cause like everyone else I am looking for at least root, and I was wondering that if a small program was created to continually test codes in the brute force method, I am sure that people like me would be willing to have it run. Would that give any chance at getting the unlock code? If not just disregard. Only a thought haha
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
One code name was Quark. Shows up in the "baseband" text strings, for both the Droid Turbo (XT1254) and Moto Maxx (XT1225).

What is the Motorola “Quark” XT1254? Is It Really the “DROID Turbo?”

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/08/18/what-is-the-motorola-quark-xt1254-is-it-really-the-droid-turbo/

This is my Puerto Rico Moto Maxx below, but the Mexico Moto Maxx also has QUARK listed.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
I have the droid turbo and it also shows quark.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] :
Same here....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] androidhacker007:
Thanks I thought there might be some part of the Moto Max unlock code related to a code name or model number of the Moto Max. If that was the case it might help find the unlock code for the turbo

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If any one has possible idea on how to crack the bootloader. Post them even theoretical ones
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] beaups:
How these moto unlock codes work has already been researched and documented in detail. You are wasting your time here.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] androidhacker007:
Thanks for the heads up, but still if anyone has any theoretical ideas please post them.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] beaups:
Its not a heads up. I'm stating there is factual documentation on how these codes work and you're code ideas all lead to a dead end.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] androidhacker007:
I meant thanks, that's it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Rahel513:
What if someone ends and finish there contract with Verizon. Shouldn't they then be able to tell them they would like there phone unlocked because they upheld there contract and ended it legally?

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I know at@t does this
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
That definitely didn't work

sent from my handcuffed xt1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
No att does not do this.

Unlocked sim != unlocked bootloader.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Rahel513:
Ok Gotcha!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] :
Article on unlock law..

http://www.techhive.com/article/2466622/you-can-legally-unlock-your-smartphone-so-now-what.html
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
This article states nothing about unlocked bootloader. Its stating that about unlocking phone to use on other carriers which i believe all are no unlocked.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] :
He never mentioned anything about bootloader, he mentioned about unlocking the phone. Have a great day.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
read the title of this forum. Unlock bootloader. If he was talking about unlocking the phone its old news. He typed that in or I would say you did and with out reading posting it thinking it meant bootloader. Have a nice day.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] l33tlinuxh4x0r:
I already have root... I just want the bounty to get higher before I release it!!!

lol jk
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
I was contacted by someone via PM claiming he would look into it. Not someone I know or recognized developer, and he claimed to be from China. Not the greatest English... He was asking me how he'd get paid if he got root. not sure how credble and I wouldnt hold my breath

I've been around XDA long enough to know better than to even offer that idea. No way I'm willing to hold people's money in a "trust account" of some sort.

If jcase ends up being the one, I'm sure it'll be through his Sunshine program or similar and he'll take payment directly
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sofa k1ng:
The only way I would submits payment now would be via PayPal for goods and services so if said person fails to deliver within the 30 day refund window I could get a refund via a PayPal claim/dispute. This is the type of thing that can't really be guaranteed or put on a timeline so that is almost out of the question.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Don't give money to unknowns with unproven work. Anyone known will be able to prove it.

Yeah no one should collect or pool money on my behalf, im not motivated by money, so yeah
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] volfan22:
Are there any particular ways we can motivate you, almighty [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION]? :) We would love to have your expertise working on this!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Yes, if anyone suggests emailing or PMing me to motivate me, please tell them not to, just very busy and iw ork at my own pace
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] madeiracam:
$100 for BL unlock. $15 for Root
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mr-builder:
Pledge

$100 for BL unlock and/or root.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] toology:
$25/$25 here
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] CoreyWillWhat:
I'm updating my pledge to $200 to whichever comes first.

Looks like the S4 had nearly $20k before it got done. Gotta pick it up!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] duke594:
Unlock/Root Pledge

I am in for $25 for both. Really want my xposed launcher back and to remove ads from apps. :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
Updated with everyone pledges/updates to this point
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wolfgart:
hope we can see unlock here on XDA and not on other external sites that charge people every time you need
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] 123421342:
If you are referring to sunshine, you must not realize how great it is. Bounty threads generally pay little compared to what they advertise. Sunshine lets them obfuscate the exploit, TELL YOU if it will work, then charge you. This is a direct incentive to continue researching exploits and honestly is our best hope for getting root/unlock. I doubt very much that this phone will get an unlock but I hope I am proven wrong.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
Personally, I couldnt agree more, and I hope jcase and company surprise us all.

THe only reason I agreed to start a bounty thread is in case it would encourage other potential devs to also work on the Turbo. Dev support is going to be limited (in my opinion) since its a Verizon exclusive. Of course now its launching some other countries which will probably help, but how much remains to be seen. We all know, based on past experiences, that when it comes time to pay up, many times 50% of the people who had originally pledged dont follow through. Either because they are too cheap, they lied, or they moved onto another device, or whatever other reason they might have. I'll be hopeful that those who pledge here actually make good, but who knows.

In fact, I'm NOT very optimistic about getting root or bootloader unlocked on the Turbo, and bought the phone fully aware of this likely fact. I just hope I'm wrong.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pablomoca:
Great Response. As an LG G3 owner I fully agree with this. Been looking at maybe pick up a Turbo. Can't decide between this phone a 2014 Moto X or the Nexus 6.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PerCompLLC:
Same here! Every device I've had to date has been rooted and eventually unlocked (and [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] was directly responsible for I think at least three of the devices I've had). But even without root to modify the system this phone is just a BEAST! That said, I will definitely be following through with my part in the bounty thread if it comes to fruition and/or I will be donating directly to [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] if he is the one who finds a vulnerability to exploit. :good:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] williamhancock328`:
Why don't you use SunShine? I thought it worked?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lafont28:
Not on devices running 4.4.4

sent from Sunshine deprived Turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
I know this is a ridiculous question but hoping to understand what is required to unlock a bootloader. For example what is the process that makes it so difficult? is it a bunch of coding or is it just a matter of having the right connections to people in china? Its all kind of a blur to me but I would love to help if I can, I have resources, just not the knowledge.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LifeAsADroid:
It would be really helpful if people would learn the difference between Carrier Unlocked vs. Bootloader Unlocked before trying to educate others.

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Nice try at covering your stupidity. This thread has nothing to do with Carrier Unlocking.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
Thank you. I tried telling him this.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Rahel513:
My fault guys when I saw the post about unlock code I thought about possibly getting it from Verizon themselves in a possible sick way!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lafont28:
Verizon doesn't even have them. Only Moto has access to them but they are just as strict and tight lipped as VZW
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
verizon has a say in it. If they didnt then they wouldnt allow unlocked bootloader access for many other phones.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lafont28:
Verizon has a say in whether or not they are allowed on their network not if they are unlockable. That is up to the manufacturer. Which is why,they alone, have the codes and why you have to go to Moto's site to unlock a Dev Edition
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
The carrier is the reason for locked bootloaders. They don't unlock them and cannot, but they do have a say on whether a bootloader will be locked, or whether it will allowed to be unlocked.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] DoctorB0NG:
Hence why the Galaxy series' bootloaders differ depending on the carrier. The Verizon S5 has a locked and encrypted bootloader whereas the USCC S5 is shipped unlocked.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] androidhacker007:
Has any looked at the fcc rules maybe someone can find a legal hole/rule/law to force Verizon and Moto to unlock them. Plus vzw didn't own the network they're boss is the fcc
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] chill145:
This question comes up every time a phone is released with a locked bootloader. Good luck with that
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rpitera:
Reminder, there is a discussion thread for this. Please keep to topic guys. Good info though.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] calarco3:
It's not an impossible case to win just impossible to find an attorney to take it.

sent from my handcuffed xt1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] androidhacker007:
Fcc rules "block c" states that the manufacture (not word for word) can not restrict the consumer from access of their device. doesn't locking the boot loader fall under that?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Modifying a device to different specifications from the manufacturer, even if it's just firmware will never fall under that.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] androidhacker007:
Why not the consumer is us they are restricting access to the device I own. It's my device I should do what I want with my device without road blocks!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Lt. Capt.:
$100 for bootloader.

On a side note to any Motorola/Verizon guys out there. I can guarantee that I will never purchase any device again unless I am capable of customizing it to my liking. I pay an average of $700 for a piece of hardware. I would like to use that hardware.

Sent from my soon to be returned XT1254

Oh and my bounty stands even if I return the turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
Dude you make us laugh. If that's the case might as well say the same thing to Samsung, HTC, Sony, heck all the OEMS that provide phones for verizon. Lmao I love stupid comments like this. Makes my night lol.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Lt. Capt.:
Did I say anything about any other manufacturer? This is a thread about a Motorola device sold for Verizon's network. Therefore I am talking about that device and that network. If I had another device on another network I would direct my comment towards them...

This is also a bounty thread that doesn't need any needless comments solely to flame other members...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] androidhacker007:
These aren't needless comments, they are brainstorming ideas, the devs haven't found an exploit. Some times you need people that aren't experts on a topic to say have you tried this or that. Because some times the experts ( not in a bad way) get so hooked into finding the answer they miss the obvious thing in plain sight(not in a bad way). So if you don't like these so called needless comments, why don't you find the exploit your self, at least we are trying. go somewhere else!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Lt. Capt.:
How is any of this brainstorming?

Also there is a thread dedicated to brainstorming said ideas. This thread is dedicated to a bounty which is what I originally posted.

I won't be responding anymore. No need to clutter the thread over anything else.

Sent from my XT1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
Wtf? Did you read the post above his post? That was directed at him and that was his reply.. He just didn't quote.