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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Broadley1:
Your right, they are the same
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dj2big:
The reason there will never be an iPhone killer is because android has not matured yet
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rhouse1983:
Read the entire thread. Thoughts:

You like iPhone. Then go away. This is a Droid Turbo forum. Go enjoy your iPhone where others also do. It's your preference and that's fine. If you are making your choice of phone based on what rooting does and what jailbreaking does, that's not a good idea. Buy the phone based on the way it already is. Yes there's apps that you won't like or things you want to change but if you don't like it for what it already is, don't buy it. If you like the OS then buy it for that. I'm not saying you can't root/jailbreak the phone to enjoy it. I'm saying each phone will be different so get it for the features, specs, size, etc. Not for what you can do once it's hacked.

Comparing iOS and Android is not apples to apples. They are 2 difference operating systems with 2 different ways of working their ecosystems. Is the iPhone 6 better than the Turbo? Is the Turbo better than the iPhone 6? No to both. It's your preference and your choice. Me, I'm a Turbo user. I love it. Great phone. Flaws? Yeah. But......THERE IS NO PERFECT PHONE FOR EVERYONE. Every phone has it's flaws. Because human's aren't perfect and it's not possible for us to create something perfect. Is there a perfect car? Building? TV? There is only the perfect thing for each person who uses it and makes it perfect for themselves.

Recommendation: At this point in the smartphone game, stick with what you've been using for the past few years. Switching at this point isn't difficult but it's a waste of the time and money you spent on that OS (apps, games, music)

"The reason there will never be an iPhone killer is becuase android has not matured yet" No, the reason there will never be an iPhone killer is because Android is not trying to kill iPhone. It's just trying to stake it's claim as another option for users. And at this point it has done a very good job at that. iPhone doesn't kill Android, Android doesn't kill iPhone. They both will always exist. Also the Android has not matured yet statement is based on opinion and unless you've used android lately then it's an opinion that is not an educated opinion. Android is very mature (KitKat), and it's getting better (Lollipop).

This thread is just an extension of the iPhone vs. Android discussion that's been going on for years. They are what they are. If you don't like Android and it's devices (especially the Turbo as again, this is a Droid Turbo thread) then please, go to your OS forums and have fun there. Let us enjoy our device and OS here where we're allowed to.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dj2big:
I am currently using a rooted Note 4 I'm very well aware of android and no its not matured yet it's all over the place...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] smokie11:
No need to be disappointed, just buy the I6 if you haven't already. :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Not_A_Dev:
That's one of the most immature and unsubstantiated statements I've read in quite a while.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dj2big:
The wonder I still like android lol
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Broadley1:
Are you seriously posting this in a turbo forum to people that just bought the turbo? Why don't you just give out your address and invite some one over to kick you in the nuts ;)-
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Decree:
I've taken plenty of good pictures with my turbo while moving or the subject in the foreground is movie. Actually, I'd say it's excellent.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zaisaroni:
That's not android, that's touchwiz.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joshm.1219:
Explain what you mean, then I'll tell you why you're wrong.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] shadowcore:
You fail hard at trolling.

Everyone ignore him.

The reason everyone should ignore you is because you have not matured yet
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] krabman:
Personally I liked android from day one because it lets me do what I want. Those that were there in the beginning will recall that android was quite a mess. At times a facepalm inducing "WTH were they thinking?" mess. Bugs galore. Couldn't get through the day without stubbing your toe on a few. But it let me do my thing, didn't matter if it was a bad idea, I could have my way with it.

To me there is no comparison to be made because the iPhone is an answer to a question I never asked. I'll never like it until they completely change the operating system at the most fundamental level which leaves the hardware. Right now all a see with IPhone is a supermodel I can't bang, with android I get a pretty girl that doesn't ask me to turn off the lights.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
Haha.. Well said
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Ally Android:
I'll second that quote.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cpufrost:
Perhaps a short movie will help!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3aZ6M3Kml-E#t=53
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] grom96:
waste of time and money

I honestly don't get why people like the turbo, in my opinion its ugly and having android and bloatware just ruins the whole experience, people don't realize that Iphones will always be better, hardware says nothing about a phone , its software ... Sure iOS is limited but its getting there,plus I do prefer a clean consistent OS rather than a laggy , run down OS I am no fan boy but I just prefer iPhone
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Galaxo60:
Some of the reasons people prefer Maxx/Turbo:

* - Double battery time:

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Motorola-DROID-Turbo-vs-Apple-iPhone-6_id3839/page/4

* - Android is not laggy or buggy as you said:

http://bgr.com/2015/02/13/ios-8-vs-android-5-0-lollipop-crash-rate/

* - People don't like "limited" ecosystems as you said

* - Quad HD Screen

* - If you are talking about bloatware, you should see what's inside an iPhone first. Android at least has options to hide/remove the bloatware, but can't do that on iOS. Besides, most of the bloatware in the Turbo is because of Verizon, not from Android. Maxx doesn't have any kind of bloatware.

You say you are not a fanboy, but you act like one, writing things with no knowledge and just based on your subjective opinion. That's what an iPuppet do.

:good:

P.D. I´m not an Android fan, in fact I have some Apple products, and I think iPhone could have some advantages over the Maxx/Turbo, but none of what you said.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] grom96:
haha lol, my bad! i should have mentioned that about bloatware, yea i do understand that it isnt android thats puts the bloatware its the phone carrier etc. i know you can uninstall it, if not root it. i do personally like both Android and iOS, i do prefer stock android but its a shame not many phones have it, mostly just nexus phones. i would have got the nexus 6 but its too big. i am a techy guy obviously :P but that doesnt mean i cant like iOS lol

---------- Post added at 12:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:17 PM ----------

haha lol, my bad! i should have mentioned that about bloatware, yea i do understand that it isnt android thats puts the bloatware its the phone carrier etc. i know you can uninstall it, if not root it. i do personally like both Android and iOS, i do prefer stock android but its a shame not many phones have it, mostly just nexus phones. i would have got the nexus 6 but its too big. i am a techy guy obviously :P but that doesnt mean i cant like iOS lol
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Don't forget wireless Qi charging. Apple will invent that in a year or two. ;)

Except for CPU speed which changes every year, the iPhone 6 is almost IDENTICAL to the 2012 Nexus 4, and almost IDENTICAL even to the 2011 gen3 Galaxy Nexus.

Android has long has all the features Apple loudly touted in the 2014 iPhone 6 series.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
The highlighted text shows just how much a follower you are and Apple does the thinking for you.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GeoFX:
You must have this IOS app on your iPhone based on your response. :rolleyes:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] grom96:
Lol, I dont have an iPhone now I have an s6
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
So you are just trolling?

Reported.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] grom96:
No I had an iPhone a few weeks ago, what I feel is, I like android and like to customize it but when I get bored with it I like using an iPhone, is that a crime lol!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
It is when you are trying to start a fight with comments like, iPhone will always be better.

Clearly even you see it is not if you no longer have it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] SirBindy:
So go back to your precious iPhone. We wont miss ya.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] seshaz:
I prefer cheeseburgers over lobster, the cheeseburger just feels more premium in my hand.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] 123421342:
Android is better than iOS but the turbo camera is garbage. I compared it side by side to an iphone 6 and the turbo has bleached whites, crushed blacks, HORRIBLE dynamic range, very bad lighting, I can go on forever. The camera is literal garbage. Otherwise decent phone except the lack of lollipop. Honestly, I miss my M8
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gqskrub:
Cheeseburgers are too big and too soft. I prefer the sleek feel of lobster. That being said, chesseburgers taste better and are more customizable - just think about the bacon! :silly:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] seshaz:
I'm sold I'm buying an android...I mean a cheeseburger
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Galaxo60:
The camera is not excellent, but neither is garbage as you said, I have been able to take some decent shots, and Lollipop improved the camera by a mile.

Also I leave you here a comparison between the Lumia 1020 and the Maxx:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=60812261&postcount=202

:good:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Diego1751:
It's heavier because the battery inside is 2.2 times bigger...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Semseddin:
People are trading their iphone 6 and buying droid turbo from my shop.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PolishPoet:
The intelligent ones are.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Don't be like that. Phone choice is a preference and in no way a sign of intelligence. Plenty of billionaires own iPhones. Plenty of top notch scientists do too.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] eldar4uk:
moto still better then iphone. not sure that it's correct comparison but after iphone moto feels like complete device with full access to all functions
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Semseddin:
Good point.

i know many people carrying their precious iphones with cases so that it wouldn't be scratched but the premium feeling gets lost. I know many who either buy battery cases or powerbanks or they carry their chargers with them, asking others if i could plug their charger for 5 minutes that they could make a call from their iphones. lol. iPhones are all about the hype for typical consumers who buy them just because its popularity. I know people with iphones having to buy data cable for $40 every 6 months cause their cables gets broken by themself. Droids are not about the beauty or magic, it is all about getting the job done, long lasting both in build quality and batttery life. Btw i never seen a droid of any generation bend. However i've seen iphone 5, 5s, 6, 6 plus bended many times, customers asking for housing replacement. These facts might explain why other people call them isheeps. Me, i don't care as long as they buy from me. I like to drink milk of the sheep. :)

A droid does commercial from 2010 for the ipeople.

https://youtu.be/JZznBdxg05Q
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] grom96:
dont say there not intellegent

Um its personal preference you cant say im not intelligent because i have an iphone. Even big companies and scientists use iphones and ipads. Its because lets face it the apps are much more better and reliable. But even some geeks have iphones. theres no dumb and smart device people! Lol there all smart
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] SkolVikings94:
"It's substantially heavier" - Subjective, some people enjoy lighter, some people enjoy heavier.

"the camera isn't as good" - Droid Turbo @ 20.7 MP, iPhone 6 @ 8 MP. Droid Turbo has 4K resolution max, iPhone 6 1080p. So no, sorry.

"the build feels cheaper" - Subjective.

"and it's full of Verizon bloat" - Any phone has this, even iPhone has their bloat.

Is this a troll post?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] aklonowski:
No iTunes wins all...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] m4rk0358:
I don't own an iPhone but you can't say a camera is better because it has more megapixels.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] SkolVikings94:
To say it isn't as good is factually wrong regardless if you think MP comparison is important or not.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] m4rk0358:
Guess I'm still looking for that one elusive review that definitively gives the Droid Turbo's camera the edge over an iPhone 6.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Motorola is to blame for not putting OIS (optical image stabilization) in this premium priced phone. LG 2, LG 3, LG 4 have it. Nexus 5 (LG) and Nexus 6 (made by Motorola) have it.

http://bgr.com/2015/03/03/galaxy-s6-vs-iphone-6-camera/

Motorola put everything else in it -- Qi wireless charging, turbo charging... even the 64GB storage. Rear OIS would have been the complete list. And they put it in the Nexus 6, so they could have put it in this phone, because the specs are about identical. I paid about $700 average for two Moto Maxx phones, so I know it wasn't a budget decision.

The Galaxy S6 camera is winning raves over the iPhone 6 camera, and yes it has OIS -- like all the Quark phones should have had. Motorola dropped the ball there.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RichSPK:
If the Turbo had OIS you'd be able to get a picture of Motorola dropping the ball.
[Moto 360] bignibb:
www.engadget.com/2014/11/06/moto360-metal-bands/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000602

http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/05/...vity&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
[Moto 360] davedigerati:
And they are expanding the leather options with some from DODO case, PLUS they are finally adding the winning watch face from the face-off contest!
[Moto 360] skally:
What happened to the good looking one in all the promo shots?
[Moto 360] idelgado782:
Is it me or are there still no links to actually purchase the band's separately?

Takin Notes..
[Moto 360] EnIXmA:
Yup.. Seems like they ain't releasing the bands separately
[Moto 360] jmwils3:
So they're here, but not here. Thanks Motorola.
[Moto 360] TheATHEiST:
Indeed, that one looks much better. This new one looks crap.
[Moto 360] KidJoe:
Apparently ATT has the bands available individually now...

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/11/0...al-individual-watch-bands-right-now-from-att/

I can't tell if the "Gray Lether" is the initial Gray, or the Stone Gray (Based on Moto's Blog it should be STONE Gray)

Amazon has a listing for the "Dark Metal" band -> http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Mobi...sbs_cps_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0B9DJ4AVD63GXN0XAJB7 but its not available yet.
[Moto 360] suzook:
$80 for the metal bands?????????????????????????????????????????????

Thats crazy.
[Moto 360] RunNgun42:
Are these bands even available for pickup anywhere? Or is this online order only
[Moto 360] punless:
Went into an AT&T store today and the people there said that it's online order only.
[Moto 360] KidJoe:
More coming...

I missed that there are pictures of the future bands are available at -> https://drive.google.com/?tab=mo&authuser=0&pli=1#folders/0B8Kpi4PsQvSQVFBDRk1LOHA4ZGs

(link is found at the bottom of http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2014/11/moto-360-choose-watch-that-fits-your.html )

The pictures there show the Cognac_Leather, DoDo_Pumpkin_Tan, Dodo_Red, Dodo_Slate_Blue, Dodo_Teal, Tylt_Black, Tylt_Navy, Tylt_Olive, Tylt_Purple

Kind of interesting.

I wonder when they will the rest will be available, and from where?
[Moto 360] DrPopper:
It's probably a little over priced, but I just ordered one of the silver steel bands. If it saves my plastic from cracking it's worth it. I tried a Pebble band and it's ok I'm just really nervous the back will crank, I even Dremeled it a bit but it doesn't seem to take much stress off the edge of the plastic bottom. I will post back with pictures and more details of how it turns out if you guys want. And I'm not willing to void my warranty installing the super engineer 2 band, or whatever it's called, which also costs 80$ for the band.
[Moto 360] hush66:
Do post pictures of how the band fits into the watch, when you have it installed. [emoji4]
[Moto 360] bustanut666:
do you have a link for the silver band?
[Moto 360] darkleafar:
Im concerned about the size of the bands. Im at rep at AT&T, and when we got in the moto 360 with the dark metal band i tried it on. It was really tight! Im a big guy, but not big enough were my wrists would be above average girth, so for an average male those bands are small. Are they sold in sizes? Can you add links to the band? I looked inside the box and there were no extra links. Am I going to have to buy the watch that comes with the metal band AND buy an additional metal band just to get links out of it to add to the main? Anyone know?
[Moto 360] charesa39:
Everywhere I've read has said it comes with 4 extra links. One guy said he couldn't find them like you, but upon further inspection of the packaging, they were in a little paper envelope. Maybe you just missed it?
[Moto 360] darkleafar:
Its possible! I inspected the box very quickly because I was on the clock, lol. I will check again first thing tomorrow! Just to be sure, you are referring to the watch that already comes with the band, not the band by itself, correct?
[Moto 360] charesa39:
Correct. The one that costs $299 and comes with the metal band instead of the leather band. I've been holding out this entire time for the metal band version to finally be released, and I ordered it from Best Buy today. Getting it shipped to store, so should be here in a few days. Can't wait.
[Moto 360] jt3:
Has anyone actually found the metal band in the wild yet, or is AT&T the only place you can get them? For anyone who has ordered from AT&T, how long did it take to get the band?
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] bebseh:
I am trying to flash I9205XXUDNE4_I9205TPHDNE4_I9205XXUDNE4_HOME.tar.md5 on my MEGA.

The phone currently has no OS.

I installed TWRP, Odin detects the phone and the process starts.

However near the end I get a a FAIL message on Odin

and on the download screen I get a SECURE CHECK FAIL : modem error.

I've tried a couple of stock ROMS.

[IMG="ODIN ERROR"]http://oi61.tinypic.com/302mloz.jpg[/IMG]

Any clues please?

thanks.
[Sony Xperia M] SimsDhillon:
Is there any kernel for XM Dual (and for fxp cm11 roms) which is overclocked and support swap?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Quilliam:
I am about to upgrade so I wanted to be ready for any problems syncing my 8525 with Vista and Office 2007 (outlook)

Thanks in advance!

Q
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] SkizZO:
same question here!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] eagle 1:
Really no problems syncing with vista ultimate. But..Rom upgrades and flashing individual portions of rom's like radio or just the os have been a problem. Best solution is to setup dual boot with Vista and XP, so you can still use XP when needed. Each can see or use files on the other partitions.

While I have found very few apps or processes that will not work in Vista or Vista xp compatability mode, there are a few utilities, networking tools, Rom Upgrades, etc that I use that still have some issues with Vista.

Actually, if you have a lot of disk space..It's best to have multi boot..Like Vista, XP, MS Server 2003r2 and Linux all on one machine...Each seems to have some advantages and disadvantages..Each has some tools or other things that can not be accomplished on one particular operating system...

But at least set up dual boot with XP and Vista...That way you are sure to be able to do everything you do today. Both Vista and Ofc2007 are much better than xp and ofc2003. As usual, if using office 2007 and others in your workgroup or office are using 2003, don't forget to save ofc documents in 2003 mode so they can use them...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] ZzFDKzZ:
I have Vista Home Premium, I had slight problems syncing my music in my 2GB Micro SD to WMP 11. I just had to format my Micro SD and it worked perfectly fine. Every thing else works great.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Backslash10:
So i have the galaxy s5 16gb model on atat with the latest update and i cant get a sim card to get any network connection at all. I get signal bars on the device sometimes and other times i get a circle with a line through it. I also cannot find a network operator when i go into the mobil network settings. The device wont even let me do emergency calls when i have a sim in but when i take the sim out emergency calls work. This device had both a cracked screen and replaced body because of damages but other then that the device is 100% stock. So anyone here have any ideas also i'll post some pics of the issues.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redram38:
Ok this is a problem I have never seen before and was hoping someone could help. It seems when my Note 4 is connected to my home Wifi my internet speed slows down to a crawl on all other computers. If I turn wifi off then my internet goes back to normal. I have a fairly slow internet 8 meg down and 1 up but when I have the Note connected I only get about 1/2 that at best and upload is terrible, it takes forever for a web page to load. I turned off google+, I turned off the Verizon protect app not sure what else to do. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Never mind it was the cloud running. I shut it off and things are back to normal.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jordy787:
So I just got a lg g3 today and I rooted it and I installed viper4android but it seems that the audio performance isnt so great. I had a HTC m8 with viper 4android and using the same headphones that i used on my g3. The m8 sounded way better and it would hold its bass and not sound distorted but on my g3 I can't have a clear sound it sounds distorted with the same v4a setting from the m8. So my question is ,can I swap the m8 audio drivers/proccesor on my g3? Or is there any alternatives ? Thank you !!I
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TonzaTheChosenOne:
Why would you mod G3 as it has one of the cleanest audio output out there?
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matash:
I thought the same thing about my m7s audio. it was superb. The G3 just can't compete . It also sounded way better when paired with my mylink in my car
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fire219:
I haven't noticed any sound distortion, and has seemed pretty clean with good bass. Admittedly so far I have only used cheap earbuds, and not any of the decent headphones I have.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jordy787:
I mean it sounds distorted with v4a when I crank the bass up. my m8 never sounded bad like this when I cranked up the bass.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gsw5700:
Try poweramp dudes
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jordy787:
It won't do anything different it's like the audio driver can't handle a lot of bass or it will sound weird
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matash:
I've tried viper. And poweramp and both of them do t have really good sound like a stock m7 or please forgive me but an iphone lol
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jordy787:
Yes exactly same here idk what it is lol the m8 sense model sound good and the gpe m8 sounded better ,is it the kernel or something ?
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jordy787:
I tried enabling art runtime and idk if its just me but it sounds a little better