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[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] RS050377:
It is on stock here: http://www.one-telecom.de/samsung-hochleistungs-akku-set-g850f-galaxy-alpha-black.html?ref=0cf759
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] JayantSparda:
And how is the battery life compared to the 1860 Mah?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] Gray44:
Is the backplate exactly the same? (except for the dimensions of course)
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] The_Newtype:
I have one of these on the way. I'll be more than happy to answer any questions anyone may have once it arrives.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] asro15:
That'd be great if you could let us know how long does the 2500 mAh battery last compare to the original one sold with the Alpha.

Thanks in advance.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] diofar:
Are there any bigger photos?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] shape_shifter:
I was trying to find that battery on the samsung web pages, but nothing. Is this actually original battery from smasung?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] JayantSparda:
I will mine tomorrow :)

I'll also will post some battery stats for you guys.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] Speed™:
Hi guys,

i have this extra battery from a couple a days.

Here i took some photos for you, hope you like it ;)

And if you want to ask some questions i'm happy to answer :P

PS: Don't care about the camera lens, i try to protect it with a screen protector :cool:

photo n.1

photo n.2

photo n.3
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] toms95:
How is the battery life? How long does it hold? What is the SOT?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] Speed™:
I'm using it and can't say exactly about the battery life because it's my 2nd charge. i'll let you know very soon

Sorry mate what is the SOT?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] JayantSparda:
Just installed 2 hours ago the extended battery. The phone will be slightly thicker, just a half millimeter thicker.

I'll keep you guys posted about SOT
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] tahvero:
SOT means Screen On Time
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] JayantSparda:
The black case that was included with the extended battery is the same one as the previous backplate.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] Speed™:
Well guys. I reached more than 48 hours with a charge BUT with a very low usage. SOT only of 1 hour. Still better than the 1860 mah of course.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] Gray44:
If the capacity is correct it should give you about 35% more juice on a single charge.

If your phone goes 24h on one charge with the standard battery, you'll get another 8 and a half hours with the extended battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] JayantSparda:
Battery stats 2d charge

Here are some battery stats lads.

I'll post in a couple of days new stats, after a factory reset to make sure that no app is causing cpu wake locks.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] shape_shifter:
Thanks man! Just one question, from what site did you order the battery. I am in EU.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] JayantSparda:
Here's the website (it's in dutch):

https://www.knaldeals.com/producten...galaxy-alpha-2500mah-black-eb-eg850bb-1010429
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] The_Newtype:
Where is everyone getting the battery from? I ordered one from Expansys-USA a week ago, but they haven't shipped it yet.

Thanks to all who are posting their findings with the extended battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] JayantSparda:
I was jstu really lucky finding the right online store who are selling original samsung batteries. (checked also reviews first about the online store)

After I ordered the battery last week, the battery was listed as out of stock.

After a few hours later I decided to check on their website and they listed the same extended batties is in stock again (5 items)

DId you paid for your extended battery at Expansys usa?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] empereurrom7:
Any idea if it will come with a silver back ?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] tileeq:
Yea i am searching for a silver one too.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] limitbreak09:
Hmm it seems like the metal with acrylic back case will fit this battery. But I wonder if those bumpers will fit too
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] RS050377:
No other colours will come, only black and white available.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] Speed™:
Guys, my last test shows 1 and half day of autonomy with a SOT of about 3 and half hours.

It's a pretty good battery ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] brianbrain:
I'm assuming the Qi charging back cover won't work with the extended battery right? Shame we have to choose...
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] Speed™:
I'm not sure about that. Probably it works too, but not sure mate.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] vinuodh:
suggestions

Guys I'm planning to get this extended kit. Is it official i.e. made by Samsung. If so why it is not available world wide. I'm from India and couldn't find it here.

And guys who are using it, is the battery life is improved. And also post some screenshots of the phone looks after installing this extended kit.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] The_Newtype:
I had to import mine from the UK; mine arrives in about a week. This thing doesn't seem to be in wide circulation, so if you see one, snatch it up; who knows how long vendors will continue selling this!?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] tangiers:
Anyone know if the Qi wireless charging back cover can be used with this battery?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] diofar:
Do you know if the S-View cover is compatible with this battery?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] RS050377:
No it cannot.

No it is not.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] rrusso:
Hi guys...do you know where to buy with international delivery (im on brazil)?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] dorsefrith:
Check on expansys. They seem to work worldwide.

http://www.expansys.com/samsung-ext...ktnJDvTqmJTfSOEtir5oNd2Z7kOHygYL2rRoCHFPw_wcB
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] empereurrom7:
I found on ebay a bigger battery with the size of the original battery.

http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Gold-Extended-2160mAh-High-Capacity-Battery-for-Samsung-Galaxy-Alpha-G850F-/251809844018?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhoneAccessories_MobilePhoneChargers&hash=item3aa1094b32

I'm not so sure about this battery, what do you think ?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] The_Newtype:
I would never buy a battery like that to put in my nice, shiny new phone.

Get an OEM extended battery from this seller:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351291368595?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

It's OEM and arrived lightning fast.

Anyone have any other questions? I'm charging it up now and will report if I feel it makes a noticeable difference in the day-to-day usage.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] limitbreak09:
Can you take a photo of the comparison between the original battery and that 2500 mah battery. I want to know how thick it will be
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] gaurav247star:
id rather buy another original battery
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] dorsefrith:
I think that Chinese batteries will not give you better performance that standard original battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] empereurrom7:
I would buy an OEM battery but they don't make a silver back !!! Such a shame !
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] The_Newtype:
It's honestly not much larger; the normal cover does not fit on it by any stretch, though.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] limitbreak09:
Thanks boss!

Nice it seems like the regular case that I bought will fit with the 2500 battery.. and maybe a bumper will fit on that too you think?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] The_Newtype:
No problem. I know what it's like trying to find pictures of something like this, so I'm glad I could upload them.

I honestly have no clue regarding cases, but this one isn't too much bigger than the original. I think a bumper would work for sure, but if something has been designed to fit tightly over the Alpha in its original form, it may not work out.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] Killbom:
Has anyone tested using a case with this battery?

I understand that the regular flip cover wont fit but how about some case from krussel or similar. Since they are made of leather it seems possible that they would fit?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] Germanese:
anyone has the model number for the OEM 2500mah battery and cover ?

I don't seem to find the right one.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] Zero|Cool:
Is there an option to add the Qi charging capabilities to the thicker battery? :confused:
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] RS050377:
Samsung EB-EG850 BB for black, Samsung EB-EG850 BW for white
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] The_Newtype:
I personally have no idea. I like rocking the phone naked as it feels so good in the hand with the slightly thicker battery cover. Leather would, however, probably work. As I mentioned before, the new cover isn't that much thicker; the leather would definitely stretch to fit it after time.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] S37hhh:
Any info regarding the performance?

Btw how much thicker is the phone with the new cover? 8mm ?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] The_Newtype:
Performance has been amazing. Easily more than 1.5 days with my usage patterns with juice left to spare... I honestly haven't worried about the battery since I installed the thing. If one were to put it in Ultra Power saving mode intermittently through their work day while they know they aren't going to use the phone hardcore, I could see this thing lasting almost a week. It's unreal.

I can't comment on the thickness in terms of specifics, as I have no way to measure this at the moment. I'd say it's more like 4-5mm. It's barely larger. They should have just shipped the phone with this standard; no one would have known the difference and the Alpha would be praised for its battery life.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] GurkhaUK:
Bigger battery

Hi All,

I bought the bigger battery and it fits pretty well, case isnt thick, it actually makes the phone easier to grip in my opinion.

A few of you had been asking about a suitable case, well I can vouch for the Spigen Neo Hybrid. Well I can tell you its a snug fit but it just about fits.

Battery life is pretty good, its hard for me to tell properly because I also bought a Gear 2 Neo at around the same time. But its easy a day even with heavy usage.

Hope this helps
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] brianbrain:
Add me to the list of happy extended battery owners..I'm using the AT&T Alpha, and it fits as expected (had to import the battery though). Battery life is unreal with this thing!! As others have said, the added thickness is barely noticeable, if not even slightly better in-hand. Phone should have shipped this way.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] vtsakiris:
Just bought it so i cannot really do a comparison on battery life as for all the rest look at the attached pictures.

note the standard is Assembled in Vietnam vs. the extended in Korea

Alpha is 113g with the standard vs. 125g with the extended

Alpha is 6.75mm with the standard vs. 7.95mm with the extended
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] phositadc:
This is one of the most useful posts I've ever seen on xda. Ty.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G850A
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] citymen34:
Thank you. Very informative
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] robertkoa:
Youtube Video showing 2500 Mah battery.

Samsung Galaxy Alpha Extended Battery Kit (2500mA…: http://youtu.be/GzVBwJK88M0

I did not buy an Alpha, though I may still because the Xperia Z 4 Compact may not be released till Summer.

What kind of On Screen Time are you getting with

2500 battery ?.. Over 4 hours ?

Lol. That is a link to YOUR Video ! ?

I agree that Alpha should have shipped at 8 millimeters thick with a flush mounted Camera Lens and 2600 Mah Battery.

IF they did that with an SD Card AND not clocked the Camera Sensor ( Probably SAME sensor as S5 but lowered to 12 megapixel to NOT equal S5 -WTF ¿) down to 12 megapixels- the Alpha could have been Great.

Samsung COULD have made Alpha like a Compact Note 4 and it would be a huge hit worldwide at 650 to $750.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] vtsakiris:
Couldn't agree more!
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] cirian75:
too close to the new S6 though ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] robertkoa:
I finally got an Alpha also

Not here yet, but my second Ebay purchase was a Alpha 850 M New

Factory Unlocked South,American Galaxy Alpha with packaging in Spanish

perfect for Miami lol.

I speak a little Spanish and have a good Accent but will need to

change it to English .

Octacore version with I hope proper bands for full 3G 4G and LTE

on Metro/TMobile .

While I am waiting for the 64 bit Super Androids ,

I will have a really nice POCKET sized device for work and play .

The Xperia Z4 Compact may be the best for me but may be a long

wait.

I hope Touchwiz does not drive ,,crazy and still waiting for Review of 2500 ,Mah battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] gaurav247star:
nice ... and u can install Nova Launcher if u Dont like touchwiz like i did
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] robertkoa:
Yes I have read a bit about Nova Launcher and that may

be a good option.

Changes the look and feel of the Phone without rooting,

right ?

Are all the menus simplified and those air gesture things

automatically disabled , I know I can shut them off within

Touchwiz but if Nova Launcher is like a

" poor man's root " it may be just what I need-

where the Apps themselves are Key .
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] 7kartoon:
very good

I have this bigger battery for 3 weeks now. I can confirm that it is original made in Korea by Samsung.

Bought it from Expansys.

Now let's go to the interesting part. Does this battery worth buying it? Definitely yes! I get 6-6.5 hours on screen time.

WiFi on.

Data on.

Brightness just above middle or on auto.

Playing Stormfall ~3 hours.

Sync on (all).

Location off.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] slg60:
Putting bigger battery, and linked to that different and thicker back cover destroys all what this Phone was made for. This Phone is so nicely shaped and so thin.... Bigger battery destroys all this what this phone stands for... Only my 2 centz

For my usage profile ~2-3 hours Screen on time all is syncing I get 1,5 Days with one charge. Thats more than enough for a 1860 mAH Battery....
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] limitbreak09:
6 hours sot sounds good to me!

Altho I already have 3 batteries that I cycle. So idk if I still need to get this.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] robertkoa:
I understand that you like the thin factor of Alpha.

I think that someone or a team at Samsung thought they

could compete against Iphone 6 based on superficial

Appearance and underestimated the target market for a

$600. Android. They dumbed it down just enough to make it lesser than an S5 in most ways, even lowering the Camera Sensor of the S5 to 12 megapixels in firmware and putting it in the Alpha.

People's expectations in the Android World at $600 plus are high.

The "Thinness Race" is one of the most surprising trends in Phones, that a 6.7 mm device is superior to an

8 mm Device BECAUSE it's thinner, I am amazed that

anyone cares.

And at 8 mm thick, the,Alpha has the Camera flush at the back, just as beautiful IMNSHO.

Thinner in a Phone means weaker battery, more fragility,

more overheating etc.

I really like the Alpha, I bought one two days ago even though the cool 64 bit Androids are coming soon.

The 850M I have is louder and fuller than the AT&T Models 850A I checked-just a lucky speaker or the Audio

Coprocessor that is in the Octacore(?) .

Mine sounds like a larger speaker, but hard to get good speakers into a 6.7 mm phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] toms95:
It is the wolfson sound processing hub!

Same with headphones, it just delivers richer sound than Snapdragon devices (i have had a device with wolfson chip before and i can tell the difference of sound chips.... When i listen to acoustic music on this beast in silent room i can even hear metronome, that on i didn't hear listening to the same recording on my pc or on friends nexus 5)
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] Corvussimo:
Can anyone confirm that the extended battery definitely won't work with the Qi wireless charger back? It would be nice to have both worlds....
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] foxbat121:
It is physically impossible. The Qi charge cover needs to have close contact to the phone with three metal pins to let the charging current flow into the phone. With a bigger battery it generates a gap and those PINs are no longer reach to the phone, not to mention the sides won't close either.

I found out that Alpha supports Quick Charge 2.0 and the OEM wall charger is indeed a Quick Charge 2.0 charger @ 2000mA. It charges the phone rather quickly. So, a wireless charger is less of importance for me now.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] vtsakiris:
As far as i am aware quick charge i a Qualcomm only technology so theoreticaly the galaxy Alpha which has an samsung octacore exynos SOC (system on chip) does not support this technology...
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] foxbat121:
US versions use Qualcomm 801. In fact no Samsung phones with Exynos ever showed up in US market since GS2.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] iflyer:
I have the SM-850A from ATT. Bought the extended battery. I have never gotten so much battery life out of a stock ROM.

Not a heavy user but I have been plugging in at night with 70% battery so decided to see how long it would last.

Going on 52 hrs with 40% battery remaining and 3hrs 8m of SOT. (Mostly on wifi, a few hours of airplane mode while traveling):
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] reylankz:
I wish the camera was flush at the back but it's not and if they gave the alpha a 16-20mp camera it would protrude even more.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] Corvussimo:
Got the extended kit today and I really like how it feels. Gives just the right amount of "tone" when I hold it. With the standard battery, it always felt a little too light, which made me grip the phone tighter than needed.

I got the extended kit from www.fonejoy.com, but a quick look shows they are out of stock.

One question: with this extended (2500mAh) battery, is it safe to charge it with the 2.0A charger that came with my Galaxy Avant (2100mAh) battery? Or is it better to keep using the 1.5A charger that came with the Alpha? Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] robertkoa:
Update: The Galaxy Alpha 850M is a really nice phone less lag than most S5 Galaxy.

Actually almost no lag at all.

My first Samsung- Touchwiz not that bad

very customizable and the split screen features are nice.

Using the Case Mate Naked case it's very clear and quite tough.

Indoors with screen low brightness and Auto mode getting about 3.5 to 4 hours of

continual web browsing on LTE /H+.

Screen is very bright on this little Phone- if you want long SOT keep brightness low and

Location/ Sync / Wifi off when not in use/ etc.

Better mic and speaker on this 850M than the 850A and warmer, louder speaker than

most S4 and S5 Galaxy - surprised at this.

Seiren Audio co processor may be reason or just a lucky speaker (?)
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] vimto25:
Hi does anyone no if they will do the extending battery kit for the blue as all I can see is black and white
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] RS050377:
No, only black and white
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] vimto25:
Not really fair is it when there's blue and silver handsets so we go without or have a mismatch :(
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] Corvussimo:
I notice the same thing with my 850M! Tested right next to the 850A, the sound on the M has more clarity and more projection.

There are a few other features in the M that I like over the A. Video calling is nice, provided the user on the other side is set up for it, too. The keyboard is slightly different, as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] vinuodh:
Phone battery back up is amazing after installing the extended battery kit.

Anyone using case/cover after installing the extended battery kit? If so post some pics or links?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] reylankz:
I'm using a spigen neo hybrid case that fits perfectly over the phone and I have the original 2500mah samsung battery extention kit so for sure you can use that if you need a case
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] robertkoa:
Thanks for info on Spigen Neo Hybrid fitting on 2500Mah Battery Kit .

I am ordering the Battery so very good to know.

The Case Mate Naked Tough clear case I have now is great on Alpha and looks great BUT don't think there is room for the 1.3 mm extra on back.

I think there is a Spigen Neo Hybrid Clear which should be perfect then- for the larger Battery.

I debated just getting a regular size battery and carrying a spare ....

But with sync, location OFF and using auto brightness at a fairly low level I am averaging about 3:45 to 4:15 of screen time with mostly LTE browsing and 3G Calling.

So if the 2500Mah gives me 6 to 6.5 hours SOT = great.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] reylankz:
I'm using the one with 2 parts the inner rubber cover and the plastic bumper that goes around it. I have no knowledge of how the others would fit but if you tested it then great use the clear one
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] pwllheli:
How big is it reylankz with the case? Can you give me its dimensions? Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] 4mynikka:
I just got a Gold Alpha, checked every where and I can't find a gold version of this kit. Can someone post a picture of the white back with a gold phone?

Thanks in advance.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] robertkoa:
I am pretty sure it(extended battery kit) only comes with Black or White Backplate.

Guess you need to Photoshop It in black and white to see which looks better with Gold.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] robertkoa:
Blue Alpha seems like a really nice color but only white or black for extended backplate...

Black will look cool....
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] robertkoa:
Yes Toms95 on Videos , Science Channel HD vids etc. I can hear the Reverb on the narrator's voice and can hear Tune In across a quiet room 20 feet away ...

About as loud as my friend's Note 4 - and not tinny like AT&T Alpha...which is decent but not like Exynos. The speaker is HD lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] robertkoa:
I have the Exynos 850M which has the Bands for Metro Tmobile and on the stock

Battery I average 4 + hours SOT on LTE mostly browsing etc.

LTE not Wifi - no sync except occasionally .Screen is on Auto and fairly low brightness- Indoors anyway outside would need to be brighter and location is off unless I am Navigating to somewhere...

So I can see 6 to 6.5 hours SOT with 2500 Mah Battery- wish I could s-t-r-e-t-c-h Casemate Naked to fit it ..
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] ottovip:
But; how does this back cover feel..? Leather -like as the original??

how does this back cover feel..? Leather -like as the original or "good old Samsung" plastic??
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] 4mynikka:
I ended up selling it and buying a black one ordered the extended battery afterwards.

And to confirm I have the 850W model with the 801 and right now I can get almost 4.5-5 SOT so I'm very excited about the 2500 mAh battery, hoefully I'll get close to 7 hours.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] reylankz:
I got that exact set up with 850w, your in for a treat.☺

---------- Post added at 12:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:16 PM ----------

Spigen Neo hybrid dual layer stretches to fit perfectly
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] robertkoa:
Thanks Reylanks - they make a Clear Case too wonder if that one will fit ?

Guess I can ask if the Clear is same interior Dimensions I think it's the Ultra Hybrid.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] reylankz:
If the dimensions are the same it should fit but the edges won't hold over the side properly because the clear one doesn't have the out layer hard bumper that presses it up *tpu edges* over the phones sides, until someone tries the clear one I don't know for sure
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] jornhd:
Anybody knows of a flip cover or preferably a wallet case that would fit with the larger battery?
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] reylankz:
I have the original s wallet cover case and unless they make one with a bigger backplate that attaches to the back of the phone the original one will not work with a bigger battery all the original s covers replace the back so It wont fit.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] limitbreak09:
Just got my 2500 mah battery today. My normal usage with my 1860 mah is at least 1 day with 3.5-4 hours of Sot ( 40% screen brightness, sync on, wifi on at least half a day, with touch display light on) So I should get a minimum 5 hours of sot with the new battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Alpha] shape_shifter:
I've just bought the battery on ebay :D

I have also read that spigen neo hybrid can fit with bigger battery, but I was reading some reviews and the people are not thrilled with this case. They say that the polycarbonate rim is too fragile, and some 3rd party usb cables and phone jacks can't fit? So for you who have this case...what is your opinion?