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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cpufrost:
The person I discussed the dealbreaking issue with had no idea that this device can not talk and surf at the same time. Another associate overheard and said yes it's a known issue and would be fixed mid December, they hope! LMAO!

As far as researching this goes, this device was release a week ago and I bought it on release day and nowhere did I read this was an issue. It should not be in 2014! Verizon rushed this release plain and simple.

To add insult to injury, I slapped my ATT SIM card in this droid turbo and was able to talk and surf without problem. I'm aware of the difference between carriers, bands, etc. but still...

It was reassuring to know the phone is travel ready for those that need it...

Still, a new customer should be allowed an exception to the restocking fee. It's good practice. In this day and age when you do business if you want to keep new customers you don't want to annoy them.

But who cares? Verizon is huge and a single customer loss is really nothing to them.

I probably would have gotten better service at one of the authorized Verizon resellers. At least the chicks that work there are easier on the eyes! :cowboy:

Oh an a few other things. Wifi is fine but if you're in a remote area (I work on ranches of 1000s of acres, trust me no wifi but cell service is OK!). And speaking of wifi this (droid turbo) has the WORST wifi reception of ANY device of used for years.

And my point with ATT and restocking fees is they are at the discretion of the person doing the return. According to VZW their SYSTEM cannot let them take it off. SYSTEM means there's no personal service, just a drone taking money and pushing buttons. Might as well be at Bank of America!

And I did not even bring up the other serious deficiencies with this phone such as the low call volume, poor speaker sound (breaks up even at moderate levels), very poor color gamut which admittingly is an issue of AMOLED displays but other phones (like Samsung) allow users to adjust them, capacitive buttons stop working randomly which is annoying as hell! Oh and if I nitpick, the 48 claim is quite exaggerated. The screen off drain is excessive IMHO and the efficiency of this phone given its enormous 3,9Ah capacity is quite bad. If it were rootable and a real rom (AOSP Slim, etc.) run on it with zero bloat it could probably get 80+ hours under the same conditions that MOT claims 48. So now that the worms are coming out of the can. :P

Don't get me wrong, I'm a retired engineer (30 years service) and can appreciate good hardware and designs. I like what I see here but I had to punt it due to the idiosyncrasies of Verizon to be honest. It has the POTENTIAL to be the BEST mobile device of 2014 PERIOD but the flaws that are like thorns in my shoes kind of frustrate me to say the least.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] doitright:
Ok, regardless of what kind of illegal maneouvers they were doing at that store (appears that they were swapping out your unit for something that was returned as defective and trying to hide that fact...), you really did this to yourself.

Your first phone was perfectly fine.

You said that you were getting "under 20 hours per charge". That sounds like you really mean "almost" 20 hours per charge. That means that your phone is fine, because (1) the meters are not yet calibrated, (2) brand new toy is getting run to the wall. Their "48 hours" advertisement is for "typical" use. Not "new toy" use, and involves turning off all the battery munchers.

So what happened, is you took a PERFECTLY GOOD phone back, and they tried to appease you by swapping it for one that was returned. When you take one that has already been returned, you already are increasing the odds of getting a bad one, even if the glitch is minor (as it happened to be), or, even one that is much more serious, like the SECOND replacement you got.

Reason the store didn't give you matching boxes is because they are not allowed to have the original boxes, SO THAT THEY DONT SELL THE USED PHONES AS NEW ONES!

Also, since you knew that the numbers didn't match on the box, WHY THE HECK would you read the box to motorola and not the numbers off the PHONE???!?

Good luck.

You did it to yourself.

I suggest trading in all of your technology for a horse.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Jooosty:
The part with the IMEI numbers being mixed up is probably the ****tiest deal in all of this.

Now you can't even go through the phone manufacturers company to file a complaint due to Verizon not changing your old IMEI number in their systems to the current IMEI that you're using.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Dalast:
I am undecided if your are just a super picky customer from hell or if Verizon was being Verizon and pushing your buttons to the point where you were entirely justified.

What I really want to know is the details and outcome of Moto's investigation over this IMEI issue.....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zachtheowl:
Alright, at long last an update.

To those who were wondering this was a corporate store.

I contacted the district manager as well as the corporate office in my region, and shared the log of events. I was contacted by both within 24 hrs, and everyone was interested in creating a satisfactory resolution for me.

I chose to turn back time--to a time before I first walked into that Verizon store (with a positive attitide at first,I may add, though my narrative belies how jaded I was by the end.)

The district manager arranged to meet me at a nearby vzw store to exchange my Droid turbo #3 (faulty flash) for, not another turbo, but a shiny new note 4. I paid the $50 difference, but I retained my right to a 14 day grace period on the note, like I would have had for the turbo originally.

They were also nice enough to comp me an otterbox defender for the note which fits like a charm and makes it easier to hold, nice and grippy.

There are many good people at verizon--just be patient with the bad ones (perhaps more than I was) and take detailed notes of any difficulties you have including names dates and times--there is a district manager out there somewhere that cares, and wants to hear about the troubles you had.

P.S The Note 4 is by FAR a superior device--it becomes obvious within the first hour with the note 4 after a week with the turbo. User experience is worlds better...I do miss waving to wake the turbo, but it sure felt good to wave goodbye forever.

ZtO

Ps moto sent me a message today saying they are still investigating and will contact me when they have a resolution to the case. My horse is out of that race now so i doubt i will follow up. (To whoever said giving moto the box # was thrle problem --i had given them internal imei so you aren't right.)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dimex:
zachtheowl, never satisfied. probably the same guy that sends his food back 3 times at a restaurant. don't get a tattoo ever.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
a baby puppy gets kicked in the face every time someone says TouchWiz is better than pure android. Enjoy your laggy phablet. And your response will be it's super fast and responsive. Yeah, all new phones are. Give it a few months when you're trying to find a ROM that will fix your pain.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Onismurai:
Galaxy Note series had good support from developer and community from the past. There is no doubt about custom ROM rising after couple of weeks which will bring Pure Android experience for Note 4 user. I myself when joined XDA understand one thing: here we can change everything.

The fact that Note 4 had a really good, solid build quality with an awesome hardware and specs. But most people here may not or don't want to buy it with its price. But it's definitely a great device.

Btw, TouchWiz is not too bad like it did years ago....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] 123421342:
Touchwiz is horrendously ugly. The new lollipop interface is nice but anything before that is disgusting. Dark blue on dark green? Really?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lukesdiesel:
I hate Touchwiz and the Note 4 has tons of lag.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ok2nvnexus:
And these r the type of guys that gives xda a bad rap...

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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Stickboy46:
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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] 335Deezl:
Survey Says....

It's customers with such severe OCD as yours that made me leave retail many years ago. I'm with the majority on this thread. You have unrealistic expectations, turned in perfectly good phones, and Verizon went above and beyond for you.
[Verizon LG G3] Cesaremopar:
I have a LG G3 verizon with bad ESN i ve heard that comes gsm factory unlock and can insert a tmobile or a&tt sim card, i just put a Tmobile sim card and doesnt read it what can i do to fix this and the phone be able to read any sim card? actually have a LG G2 verizon and is working with Tmobile sim card please help me thanks
[Verizon LG G3] spotmark:
Did you change the network setting?
[Verizon LG G3] Cesaremopar:
YES i did and nothing i changed network mode to lte/ gsm/umts :(
[Verizon LG G3] 318sugarhill:
Did you change APN settings?
[Verizon LG G3] Cesaremopar:
Yes i did and nothing, do you think is for the bad esn with verizon? or that doesn't matter if I use it with any other GSM sim card
[Verizon LG G3] 318sugarhill:
That should only matter for Verizon I believe
[Verizon LG G3] RHChan84:
If memory recalls, GSM is only for overseas. I believe it's locked down for USA for the v985.

Im not sure how that court ruling for unlocked smartphone effects the v985 so I don't know if its unlocked.

Sent from my VZW LG G3 (tapatalk)
[Verizon LG G3] Cesaremopar:
So if mine its verizon locked with bad esn can't be used with any GSM carrier inside USA just can be used with gsm for overseas?
[Verizon LG G3] 318sugarhill:
No... I don't believe this is correct. For verizon to be able to use the computer block spectrum... Their 4g devices are required to be sim unlocked. They can be used for us carriers... As long as it has the proper radios.
[Verizon LG G3] trent999:
My Verizon vs985 works on both Cricket and T-Mobile pre-paid Sims once I have installed the right APNs and switched modes. You must reboot after setting the APN. It works in the USA as well as outside, given radio frequency compatibility. I even get LTE on band4, where available.
[Verizon LG G3] joarce:
I just got the VS985 and popped in my ST AT&T SIM. I did have to enter the ST apn but I left the network mode at global and everything works: voice, data (LTE), mms. I applied the hotspot mod and that works too. :good:
[Verizon LG G3] BladeRunner:
Good to know since I am switching to AT&T :good:
[Verizon LG G3] tech_head:
He has a phone with a "BAD ESN".

If it has been blacklisted there is nothing he can do.

I quite frankly won't help a person with a phone with a "BAD ESN".

He either got ripped off, bought a device cheap that was reported stolen, etc or he stole it.

In any case I'm pretty sure it violates the terms of this site to help someone with a less than legally acquired phone.

It's a brick or a good wifi device.

BAD ESN (MEID) can be reported across carriers and will not be able to be activated anywhere in the US.
[Verizon LG G3] 318sugarhill:
I never really knew what a bad esn was other than you couldn't activate it on Verizon. I always thought it was someone who didn't pay their bill or something. Didn't know it meant stolen phone. Thanks for the heads up.
[Verizon LG G3] tech_head:
Bad ESN can be flagged due to a number of things:

1. Bill not paid while under contract => They own the phone so they blacklist it.

2. Broken contract with device not returned => They own the phone so they blacklist it.

3. Insurance claim filed => Phone should be returned to provider, if not blacklisted.

4. Lost or stolen

There may be others, but the gist is the phone has a shady past if the ESN is bad.

No help.
[Verizon LG G3] echow2001:
same situation here, is the APN setting automatic? I am on cm13 with 35b bootstack
[Verizon LG G3] gerrysonmehta:
can phone with bad ESN be banned overseas too ????

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so it will work with gsm carrier overseas ???
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bluesky2111:
I'm newbie here so if there's anything wrong please correct me, thanks :)

I'm planning to get the Z3 on amazon. After doing some research, I found that FGS Trading and Worldwide Distributors are most reputable sellers. I tried googling them and some complaints popped up... this made me a little worried.

So anybody ever bought thre Z3 on amazon? please give me advice :(
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poldie:
There's a retail company out there no-one's ever complained about? A phone manufacturer everyone loves? A model of phone for which there's been no faulty units manufactured?
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bluesky2111:
In my area I can't found any retail store that sells unlocked Z3. I live in phoenix, AZ.
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hanime:
Thanks for adding valuable information to the thread.

I believe you can only get unlocked versions online. Do not get the D6653 as it does not have the proper LTE frequencies here in the US. Retail stores would be the best bet since you can do exchanges easily. From experience with this phone, it is a hit and miss for quality of the phone. This phone is known to get the pink spots in camera photos, light leak on screen or bezel, uneven flaps, corner pieces bulking out, etc. If I were to look for a phone, I would wait for something new to come around. Sony has pretty bad quality assurance with this phone.
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bluesky2111:
Thank you very much! :(

About the faults, did you mean the Z3 only, or the Z in general... I really want Z3 but after reading those of yours I feel worried...
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hanime:
Almost every phone has some fault. It will depend on how picky you are and living with it. The recent posts have indicated the Z3 has a lot of weird issues. You can look through the threads yourself. There is a guy on here on his 4th Z3; he has been finding issues with it like those issues I mentioned above. It is a hit and miss. For me my first one had a defective camera. My current second one has a good camera, but with the pink spot issue. Also the flaps for the USB is not evenly closed. I hope I don't push you away, but these are from experience.
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bluesky2111:
Thank you, that definitely helped me a lot! And what about Z2? Does it have such faults like Z3?
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bluesky2111:
I forgot to ask where you got the Z3.

Sorry I asked you too much :(
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hanime:
I didn't get to know much about the Z2, as I came from the Nexus 5. However, I heard Z2 had issues before, mainly software issues, but it was fixed and now very smooth. I also heard Z2 is not much different from Z3, besides the look and battery life. So people coming from the Z2 said they should have stick with Z2, for reasons.

No worries. I got mine from an eBay seller when it was $599.99. However, the exchange/return policy is a hassle to deliver, wait, and receive a new one. My new one is not perfect, but I am trying to live with it.
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bluesky2111:
Sorry to hear that though. Did you get it from Tropical_Mobile? and why not Amazon? :)
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bluesky2111:
Nexus 5 used to be my dream, but after thinking for a while I decided to choose Z3 (or Z2) since SD cad slot, battery life and good camera play important roles for me :(
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hanime:
Before buying mine, I bought one from tropical_mobile for my GF, and found out I got the wrong version the hard way. I bought the D6653. However, the seller was very dodgy on return/exchange, and recommended me to sell it instead. I did not even open the box and took a big loss and sold it brand new. Then I bought two more (one for me, one for my GF) from techno.trading.house. They are very good with "hassle-free" exchanges/returns. I would go with Amazon, but it was whatever had the best prices at the moment. I regret it, however. Amazon might have been a better choice as they are more reputable.

Here is my current phone. It's just annoying to see the uneven flap closed.
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bluesky2111:
You had a long and sad story, again I'm sorry to hear that. Hope these stupid things never happen again.

Yeah since I have OCD (maybe like you), it's annoying whenever I look at that uneven flap... it's absolutely not a big deal, but... :(

By the way if you have time, please help me check those links... I dont know which one is a better choice since it's from different sellers. Wordwide Distributors and FGS Trading seem to be reputable... :(

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Unlocked...qid=1415166323&sr=1-1&keywords=sony+xperia+z3

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Unlocked...UTF8&qid=1415166273&sr=1-1&keywords=xperia+z3
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hanime:
Don't get either of the versions. They are both D6653. Look for D6603 or D6633 (for dual sim card).
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bluesky2111:
http://www.amazon.com/XPERIA-FACTOR...qid=1415167407&sr=1-7&keywords=sony+xperia+z3

This is the only one that's not D6653. But it does not seem to be popular about reviewers and stuff. It looks like Amazon is not a good choice either :(
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abhinav.tella:
bluesky, what carrier are you on? If you are with T-Mobile buy it directly from them because they replace immediately within first 14 days if you have issues, I have already gone through 3, on my 4th and final here.
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hanime:
I hope it is the final one. :p But yeah, forgot to ask which carrier because that's important as well.
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bluesky2111:
Thank you and Hanime for asking. and yes I am on t mobile. but I dont know if I can pay off the phone... and does the carrier makes me sign contract or anything involved?
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abhinav.tella:
Its ~$50 Taxes and fees at time of purchase then its $26.25 per month for 2 years ($630 total). So basically you have to pay it off if you want to leave TMO. You won't get it any cheaper outside. Also there is no interest on monthly payments. If you want you can pay the $630 upfront as well.
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bluesky2111:
thank you for the helpful info.... will Tmobile ask my phone number or anything related to my line? because my family members are under the same line and i dont want my dad to know i spent such a huge amount of money :(
[Nexus 9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hill67:
Hi, I just noticed that the screen is a little bit sunken into the tablet. So the transition from screen to metal edge is not that smooth, the metal edge stands a bit out. Is this normal?
[Nexus 9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marctronixx:
please post color, model, place of purchase
[Nexus 9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xavier2k3:
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be like that. Mine is the same.
[Nexus 9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hill67:
I have a 32 gig, white, WiFi only, purchased at the google play store here in The Netherlands.
[Nexus 9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MRobbo80:
Thanks for pointing that out!!!! After running my thumb over the sides, I have noticed that the top, bottom, left side, is sunken, but the right side of the screen is flush?????
[Nexus 9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geordie1976:
For me its the left side that's flush with the rest sunken. I'm trying to keep a positive mindset about my new toy but build-wise I'm starting to struggle...
[Nexus 9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MRobbo80:
Think I will stay off the forum for a little while, so I can make my own mind up.

Don't help reading negative reviews if you know what I mean ?
[Nexus 9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aindow:
My screen is slightly sunken all round. I personally feel this could be intentional to help limit the risk of scratches if someone is careless enough to set their tablet down screen side down.
[Nexus 9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kearkan:
I just noticed this on mine, all edges are just a bit back from the metal edge... Its a bit weird when I notice it but this is a good point!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] imate<3:
I saw that WM6 has poped up since i lefted pda's for awhile and i would say

im disappointed even more, i saw some ones sig say that you had a o2 mini

with crossfire on it and you custom'ed it please tell me how you did that as i would just do anything to own a WM6 device :) i remembered how shocked i were when WM5 were announced as not coming out for imate jam and other models and i hated that so if you can just share this with me i would be so happy :) plz email me or add me on msn :) i really want WLM and PIE wm5-6
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] vijovame:
Sorry to disappoint you, but there is none wm6 or 5 for mini, is for mini s aka wizard, sorry. :(

I have a imate jam...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] vijay555:
Why not go and get a Crossbow compatible phone? I think you're a bit over excited for what it is, but if you insist!

V
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] imate<3:
yeh, whocares now im not gonna splash out for a portable i will just buy a laptop thats vista powered in months time since of bug control :)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] st3v3:
just get the althea, thats what im waitin for
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Hitesh D:
Sir, one of the members started a new thread says he has done it,means he has done wm6 on magician
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] imate<3:
I will be getting a Acer Aspire W9423wsmi vista v.2 in the comming month and then im thinking of fetting the new prophet refresh model.. =S idk i just want my lappy badly so i dont care for pdas too badly till i miss even more portability. plus aspire 9423 is the best aspire with 17inch and i didnt want a huge 20 inch....