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[Xperia Z3 Accessories] se1000:
Not sure since I only had it on for a little while testing today. No I don't feel like running down my battery and testing it, it takes to long to run down the battery :D

It absolutely, definitely charges at QC 2.0 speeds though, but only via the USB directly into the phone, not through the magnetic charger.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] abhinav.tella:
True, but if you do manage reach absolute zero, and recharge, do tell us.:D
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] henson0115:
proof? sony seem to think they are considering when you buy EP881 you buy is actually a combination of EP880 and a usb cable.

did you buy an EP881? if so what model number is on the brick?

also read here direct from sony second and fifth post's down http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/needed-help-with-charger-for-xperia-z/td-p/373667
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] se1000:
they are "quick charge" but not Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 spec. Maximum output for the EP880 is 5v 1500mA. Quick Charge 2.0 charges at 5v 2000mA (2A) or 9v 2A, or 12v 1.5A
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] henson0115:
ah ok that now makes sense, Sony should make this clear. it is already hard enough to find information about all of this.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] ananthakannan:
Guys,

Charger provided with my Sony Xperia z3 got short circuit (burning smell from the head piece) on the 1st charge itself. It was replaced in the sony service center. The issue is, the output the replaced charger was 5V-1500mAH. I forgot the output rating the charger provided in the box. Please confirm the output rating by the pic. Based on your inputs, I will raise a request to my retailer to provide. Please find the rating of the replaced charger.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] infinitylook:
Yes mine is 1500 as well out of the box. Sorry your pic don't load. Can you tell me model number of your charger?

Now i see it. Yes it's 1500ma and your charger is ep880
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] ananthakannan:
If my memory stands correct, box version of the charger rating was mentioned as 3000mAh or 2000mAH. I might have misread it in the frenzy of getting Z3 and I am the 1st buyer in Chennai, atleast that's wat the retailer told me.

I forgot to take a snapshot at tat time. My USB cable version is EC803 and Charger (provided by service center) is EP880. I have searched throughout the internet and no where the output rating of Z3 box version of charger was mentioned.

Are u sure that the box version of Sony Xperia Z3 (D6653 LTE) has the same output rating of 1500mAH. Thanks in advance.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] se1000:
Definitely 1500mAh
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] boostedneonsrt4:
I really wish Sony would have included a quick charger in the box....
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] jaoropez:
I am disappointed that the quick charge is not working with the magnetic charging port... did you try using the adapter or the usb cable when you tested if it charged faster with the magnetic port?
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] se1000:
"quick charge" or charging at 5v 2A (2000mA) works through the magnetic charging port. This is still very fast.

Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0, which charges at 9v 2A does not work through the magnetic port, which is not a surprise to me.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] jonmorris:
Since the Xperia S, I think all Sony phones have supported an earlier Quick Charge spec - and presumably to keep costs down, Sony doesn't bundle what is now being referred to as a 'turbo charger' (Quick Charge 2.0). We knew it was compatible, as indeed it appears the Z2 is - and many other models using the same SoC.

I never expected it could work via the magnetic charging port, as the way the spec works is that the PSU operates as normal (so as not to damage non-compatible phones that wouldn't accept a higher voltage) until it can communicate with the phone and establish that it's ready and able to accept more juice. Thus, you need to use USB. Likewise, there can't be any way to bump up the power if and when Sony integrates wireless charging on more than just the Z3v.

Given I do 90% of my charging via the magnetic charging port, I am not sure I'll really benefit much from a turbo charger but I suspect I'll still buy one anyway (or maybe more than one) given it works on so many other models (HTC M8, LG G3 etc).

It's odd that so far only Motorola and Samsung (Note 4) have really made a big deal of fast charging. Why didn't HTC, Sony or LG take advantage of it given they've all had models on sale for most of 2014 that were ready?
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] ananthakannan:
Hi...just now saw the box piece version. Output rating is same. Input in the replaced charger was 250mAH whereas the box piece has 300194. Not sure whether this will have any impact. Volt rating seems to be same for both. Any idea?
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] se1000:
Output rating is what is important for you phone.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] ananthakannan:
Ok...
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] sentlon:
MI4 quick charge not work on z3

i just try the MI4 quick charger on the Z3, it seem not really working.

the charging just like normal charging speed.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] infinitylook:
Mi4 charger? I guess it's not certified by Qualcomm on their list of Quick Charge 2.0 devices. I ordered the Docomo Quick Charge and I expect to receive it by next week. I also tried using Galaxy S5 charger and it really charges fast. It outputs 2000mah and thats really fast compared to this EP880 charger which was the one included on my package. One thing i noticed though when using the Samsung S5 charger, the mah slows down when phone (battery) gets hot. When I'm using my phone it causes the current to drop down to 790-800. I guess that's protection mechanism of the battery
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] sentlon:
s5 charger?

the charger have quick charge built in ?

why i never hear S5 have come with Quick Charge 2.0 charger?

where u get this info ?

and how fast is your faster charge when using the S5 charger?
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] infinitylook:
I didn't said it's quick charge 2.0 but the S5 charger is faster than the EP880. The output rating of S5 charger is 5.5V with 2000mah current. It definitely os faster than the EP880.My estimate rate of charge is around 2-3% per minute but that could vary on different conditions.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] sentlon:
i suppose that ipad charger are the most powerful charger in the market now.

anychance u can try on it ?
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] Entropy512:
5.5v - interesting. This is potentially high enough to damage certain devices.

Charging speed without "special tricks" like QC2.0 or Oppo's VOOC depends on primarily:

1) Whether the phone will actually consume more current if the charger allows it (rare)

2) What the charger's current rating is

3) The exact behaviors of the charger under load

In general, I don't think the Sony devices will ever consume more than 1.5A from a "normal" 5v power supply.

HOWEVER - there are plenty of things that can make it consume less than 1.5A even if the official power supply is rated 1.5. Most Qualcomm devices (and many non-qcoms, including especially the 2012 Nexus 7) seem to have a "soft" current limit where the device reduces current consumption as voltage drops.

(Nexus 7 was around 200 mA per 0.1v drop)

So if there are any cabling losses, the device pulls less power.

What's interesting is that some Samsung chargers (especially the tablet "bricks" that came with the original Tab 10.1 and the Note 10.1) actually increase their output voltage slightly as current increases in order to compensate for cable losses. I tested a Samsung "brick" and it started at 5.05v or so at low load but went up to 5.3v at 2A - which will compensate for up to 0.25v of cable losses at this current.

Hopefully in the next couple of weeks I can get more data with my bench power supply and my Re:Load Pro
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] sentlon:
mi4 charger

After using mi4 charger for few days i notice it charge faster then original charge from z3.

It charge 1mins for 1%. Compare with original it charge 2mins for 1% avarage.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] infinitylook:
Just got the QC 2.0 Charger from Docomo today. i suppose this is the quick charger because it has 05 on it and it has the output voltages of the qc 2.0. I initially tried it by plugging it on usb direct and it charges 2% per minute so it's really fast, just like the samsung s5 charger. I still have to try this and perform charging test on the dock, direct usb and on the magtron magnetic adapter. Surprisingly though this ones manufactured in the Philippines instead of China or Japan.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] infinitylook:
I really think that the Z3 kernel is the limiting factor here
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] darth5zaft:
I charged mine with an iPad charger. The only difference it's seems is changing with a USB is much faster than using the no name magnetic adapter.

But I couldn't compared it as I never used the original charger. Also I never really run out of juice just yet.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] RockStar2005:
T-Mobile Z3 & Quick Charge 2.0

Can anyone here confirm whether or not the T-Mobile Z3 in the U.S. got an update (or will with Lollipop which I'm finally getting this/next week) which makes the Z3 fully compatible with Quick Charge 2.0??? I was told only the Japanese variant of the Z3 got it, but someone else on the xperiablog.net forum said no an update was sent out which made ALL variants compatible with 2.0.

Please confirm this, or let me know if it's wrong, especially if you live in the U.S.!! Would like to buy a 2.0 charger for car and maybe home too.

Thanks,

RockStar2005
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] Entropy512:
Every Z3 variant I've seen since the beginning has supported QC2.0 - although for whatever reason, the Z3 variants don't use it to the degree that the Z3c does (Battery charging current is limited to 1.5A - under absolute ideal conditions normal chargers can hit this limit, but only if the device screen is off and you're using a top-of-the-line cable. QC2.0 chargers can hit this with almost any cable when the screen is on.)

If the T-Mobile version doesn't support it, it would be the exception, as all other variants (except possibly the Verizon variant which is HEAVILY modified and really shouldn't even be called a Z3...) support it.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] RockStar2005:
Hey Entropy,

Ok thanks!

It turns out that someone just told me that the Lollipop update for the Z3 will INCLUDE QC 2.0 capability, and I'm about to get mine any day now. Can't wait! Already bought a QC 2.0 charger. Only $10.99 on Amazon for a $40 retail charger! Sale is still going on! Just gotta use code at checkout to get an extra $5 taken off the price: LUMB8LHS

Amazon link to buy from.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] hanime:
I bought a couple of those to test the Z3's capabilities. Note, that these Aukey 2.0 chargers won't work on magnetic charging port. They may work for the USB port, which you have to open up the flap. Check out my experiment thread for details. I will be doing a charge test to the USB port tonight.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] RockStar2005:
hanime,

Yeah I kinda figured they wouldn't. My magnetic charger is a 1-piece, not 2-piece, as I'd read they performed better. So I wasn't planning on doing that anyway.

I'm just gonna switch b/t magnetic charger and QC 2.0 when at home. If I'm in a hurry, then QC 2.0 USB. If not, then magnetic.

Ok cool. If you can, post here to let us know if you notice a significant difference using the QC 2.0 USB charger or not vs magnetic or non-QC USB charging.

Thanks!

RockStar2005
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] id3alistic:
What? QC 2.0 should be available out the box because of the processor in the Z3. I have a Tmobile Z3 and I'm using that same Aukey charger.

You're suppose to get around 60% charge in 30 minutes and it works for me.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] RockStar2005:
Where do you live id3alistic? I mean what country/continent?

I'm in the U.S. and have the Z3 so my carrier is T-Mobile. For me, I had just verified yesterday that the T-Mobile Z3 doesn't come with QC 2.0 compatibility natively, but that the Lollipop update WILL include it. And I will be getting that ANY day now (if not this week, then next week for sure it seems)!

You said "supposed to"..........are you actually GETTING a 60% charge in 30 minutes?? Please say yes!!! lol It takes me an hour to get like 25% on my magnetic charger, and same for USB. So if that's true, then I can't WAIT! lol

Let us know please!

Thank You,

RockStar2005
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] hanime:
Doesn't work for me with the Aukey QC 2.0 charger. I tested it last night, same results as other cables. You can check my experiment thread. So something is off here. Either my phone does not support it (D6603 on latest Lollipop), or the charger is bad. Or it is possible that some phones (manufactured early) don't support it at all. I don't know, just conspiracy talking.

I am highly disappointed my phone did not work with the Aukey QC 2.0 charger. Can someone with the charger confirm with model of phone?
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] id3alistic:
Ok, I think it was more of a placebo effect for me. I went back to regular Sony charger and it's about the same speed.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] RockStar2005:
F! LOL

This is the thread that said that once Lollipop comes in for any non-Japanese variants of the Z3 that it will switch QC 2.0 on. I just realized it says Z3 Compact thread not Z3, so I don't know anymore. F. lol

hanime and id3alistic, please confirm whether or not you two have Lollipop yet or not too.

RockStar2005
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] id3alistic:
Nah no Lollipop yet. I also have Tmobile.

Maybe Lollipop fixes mms issues too? Just waiting for the new Nexus to see how it is and I might jump ship.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] RockStar2005:
Ok, that's a good thing then! I don't have it either. The ppl who do claim they do now have QC 2.0 capability. So we'll see !:good:

MMS issues? You've come to right guy man. lol Read my post (#23) on the T-Mobile forums.............specifically the 2nd part (

after

the Sony PC Companion portion). I had MMS issues too, but changing to Textra and/or doing the other adjustments I mention there will MOST DEFINITELY fix it. It did for me. Skim all of 2nd part though, including #7.

Lemme know if it works.

RockStar2005
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] hanime:
Z3 (D6603) with Lollipop build 23.1.A.1.28. Quick Charge 2.0 is a no go so far.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] RockStar2005:
Hmm ok. Thanks.

Which variant do you have? I mean, what country are you in? The T-Mobile one is the U.S. (non-Verizon) version, D6616. They say that even the new Z3+ dual-sim version won't have it, only the single sim. So it could just be some variants don't get it.

I guess even if it's not, I'm still gonna keep my AuKey for the Z5 which will prob come out in the next 9-12 mos. I'm sure it will have QC 2.0. Esp since I only paid $10.99 for a charger that's $39.99 retail. lol

RockStar2005
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] id3alistic:
I did all of that, and I get "Textra couldn't get MMS" error messages.

EDIT: Nevermind, it works! HOLY CRAP! So happy!! It retrieved like 10 mms I missed earlier today.

Can I switch to Hangouts or do I have to use Textra?
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] RockStar2005:
That's awesome id3alistic! Great news!!

Although I use Hangouts for IMs (which is its MAIN purpose lol), I prefer Textra because I like the interface more and I tried combining my IM and texting once, and well, I didn't like having them mixed together. Prefer them be separate. Just easier that way for me. So I suggest using Textra as your default text messaging app.

Bookmark that post so if you have any other issues, you can check there to see if I had a resolution for them.

RockStar2005
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] hanime:
I can confirm the Quick Charge 2.0 DOES NOT work on my Z3. I've tried two different Aukey chargers (one known to work with a Z3 Compact), and it's a no go. Can someone confirm their D6603 work with QC 2.0?

Perhaps we can get a list of devices, firmware, etc. that work or do not work with QC 2.0.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] RockStar2005:
Which variant do you have? I mean, what country are you in? The T-Mobile one is the U.S. (non-Verizon) version, D6616. They say that even the new Z3+ dual-sim version won't have it, only the single sim. So it could just be some variants don't get it.

Let me know please.

Thanks,

RockStar2005
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] hanime:
I have the D6603, which is an international version not provided in USA. I live in USA and using T-Mobile network. It's a bummer it does not work. I think it is a good idea to get a list of devices that work with QC 2.0 going.

This is quite interesting:
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] Entropy512:
QC2.0 has nothing to do with the processor, it's actually in the PMIC - it just happens that 90%+ of the time, OEMs use the standard PMIC (but not always - see Oppo Find7).

I hate that Qualcomm advertises it as a feature of the SoC and not the PMIC.

Also, HVDCP negotiation requires the HVDCP service to be present and running in /system - which is the case on every Sony stock firmware I've seen.

As to it not working with the magnetic port - of course it won't. HVDCP requires special signaling on D+ and D- for the device to tell the charger what voltages it supports. No D+/D- = fallback to standard 5v charging.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] Entropy512:
Wrong. D6603 is sold in the USA and has been since last November - http://store.sony.com/xperia-z3-lte...artphone?vva_ColorCode=633F3C&_t=pfm=category

D6603 has supported QC2.0 since the very first KitKat build
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] RockStar2005:
Ok so U.S.A. & T-Mobile but the international version. That explains how you got Lollipop already. We'll see what happens for me and id3alistic once the T-Mobile version gets Lollipop.

I think it's quite BS. lol A lesser phone like the Z3c gets it but the flagship phone only gets it if it's the Japanese variant? Huh?!

RockStar2005

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So Entropy, will the T-Mobile version (D6616) support QC 2.0?? This is so confusing.

Thank You,

RockStar2005
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] hanime:
Oh, I meant not provided by carriers in the USA. Was the D6603 sold in USA carriers? I know T-Mobile's variant is the D6616. Verizon is the Z3v, but who carries D6603?

If D6603 supports QC 2.0, can someone else confirm it's working?
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] id3alistic:
Ok so Tmobile has lollipop now.... let the testing begin!!!

They didn't mention anything in the updates so I'm not sure if we have QC yet.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] RockStar2005:
I used my QC 2.0 charger on my Z3 today at 81% (just got Lollipop this morning). Normally it takes an hour to get a 25% increase on regular USB. In 15 minute I went from 81% to 91%. I've heard other ppl going from 30% to 80% in 10-15 minutes, so while I don't think I have the full QC 2.0, it seems like I may have a lesser version of it? I dunno.

I've heard on the Samsung Note 4 phones they have an actual QC 2.0 option listed. I don't see that anywhere on my phone, so again, I dunno. Well, even if I just have a lesser one, at least we still have the BEST battery and battery saving options (Stamina Mode) on the market!

RockStar2005
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] ryan40r:
So I'm confused..... Does the D6616 updated to Lollipop support QC 2.0 or not?? I know it didn't prior to the Lollipop update (only Japanese versions did).
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] pchetan2:
Charged Z3 in 2 hrs with galaxy tab pro charger

I used samsung galaxy tab pro charger(2.0 A charger) to charge my Z3. it charged from 0-100 in under 130 minutes ....

Dont know whether it is QC 2.0 charger though
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] id3alistic:
Well lollipop estimates my phone will be fully charged from 30% in 1 hr 25 minutes. Does that sound like quick charge or no? lol.
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] Entropy512:
Qualcomm appears to be trying to make QC2.0 a part of the USB standards so is letting anyone use the tech, but just calling it different names. Asus calls it "Boost charge" or something like that in the ZenFone 2, but it's HVDCP. Samsung's new Exynos devices (Note4 and GS6) also support HVDCP. The SHIELD Tablet supports HVDCP despite not being marketed ANYWHERE as having fast charging support of any kind. (In fact it's one of the few 12v HVDCP devices)

"only Japanese versions did" - WRONG. Every Z3 variant I'm aware of (not sure of D6616, but it's highly unlikely that it would be any different in this regard) supported it in KitKat.

Steps to confirm:

Buy a QC2.0 charger that indicates HVDCP status with LEDs such as http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Adaptive-Charger-Qualcomm®-ChargeTM/dp/B00OVD3FEU/

Plug in your Z3 with less than 80% battery or so. (Probably even 95% is OK, but close to 100%, the Sonys will drop out of HVDCP)

Does the charger indicate HVDCP? (on the Tenergy charger I linked, the light will turn green instead of blue) - if yes, your device supports QC2.0 aka HVDCP
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] RockStar2005:
I'm gonna test my Z3 out when it hits a lower battery percentage this weekend then see using the QC 2.0 charger I bought on Amazon if it's working or not. The charger was originally $40 retail, and very well-rated, so we'll see. Doesn't have those LED lights though.

We'll see what happens. The nice thing about Stamina Mode working is that it takes the phone A WHILE to even get down to a lower percentage. lol

RockStar2005
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] id3alistic:
QC 2.0 doesn't work for Tmobile Z3 with Lollipop. Same speed as before.

This is pretty dumb. Why do they not enable it?
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] deepershades:
just to add that there's a free app on the store called ampere, which will allow the less tech savvy out there to measure their charging speed objectively without having to wait for a full charge cycle, i.e. you can switch connectors and adapters on the fly and see immediately what the benefits are, so no more placebo thingy....... separately, I tend to charge via the magnetic connector alone, and the deff adapter for me (purchased from clove.co.uk), whilst not quickcharge 2.0 etc., was better than any other magnetic/usb connection I tried - might be worth a look for anyone who's conceded that quickcharge 2.0 compatability isn't available for their handset but still wants any speed bump they can get?
[Xperia Z3 Accessories] RockStar2005:
QC 2.0 DOES work on T-Mobile Z3 phones

Hey id3alistic,

I beg to differ. I charged my T-Mobile Z3 (U.S. version) using my magnetic charger from wall (which charges at the same speed as regular USB from wall) and in 30 minutes it ONLY did 12% (64-76%). Then I used my Aukey Qualcomm-Certified QC 2.0 charger at 76% for 30 minutes again and I got an 18% increase, to 94%. That right there shows it does have an impact, but the thing is with charging that I just learned recently is that once the phone hits about 90%, it takes LONGER to charge up to 100% than when below 90%. So you kinda have to measure it in the "below 90%" range to make it a fair comparison.

So to further prove that QC 2.0 does work on the U.S. version of the T-Mobile Z3, I let the battery drain to 60%, then did another round of 30 minute QC 2.0 charging. The final result was a battery percentage of 86%, or a 26% increase within the same time frame, or more than double what magnetic/standard USB was capable of doing.

Watch this video to see more about what I'm saying. The Nexus 6 is a different phone altogether, but the results are still pretty much the same as what I'm seeing in my tests........

the charging is about TWICE as fast when using charging using QC 2.0

. If anything, in the case with both phones, it's over double. 50% is more than double of 22% (Nexus 6), and 26% is more than double of 12% (Z3).

Note: In all trials, my phone was turned on but the screen was turned off for the duration of each trial.

RockStar2005