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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] SKassam:
Need help with Voice Command and Email

I would appreciate someone giving me an idea as to why I have the following problems and what I could try:

I have installed this ROM without any problem and it works great except for email and Voice Command. I am on TMobile. I have the Hermes 200 (HTC TyTN). I used to be on the Imate ROM and it was working fine.

(1) For email (using POP email), I setup everything and if I soft reset the phone, everything is wiped out.

(2) Voice command installation causes problems although it allows me to map to a button.

(3) I am only seeing 4 buttons mapped. Am I missing something or some setting?

Many thanks.

Shamim
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] marcosjb1:
I'm not understanding?...a Samsung BlackJack is only offered through Cingular...it is a Cingular phone, and CV is preloaded on it...but I will give it another try though I guess, my only problem is that I'm too damn lazy to go up to the Cingular store...but hopefully it will be worth the gas money...that **** is outrageous right now...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Furila21:
I noticed a couple of issues: (well I'm hoping they'll be fixed in the official release. I don't know if there's a bug forum for the devs.)

1) The new rom is draining my battery significantly more compared to the stock rom; even with bluetooth off, wifi off, internet disconnected, etc. My screen is only at 80% brightness as well. With light internet (on Edge mostly) and phone usage, being in standby for the remainder of the time, my phone will be nearly drained by the end of the day. I used to be able to go 1-2 days w/o charging with the same usage. It seems like the phone is a little faster with switching between tabs in settings for example- between personal, system, and connections. Maybe this possible speed increase has an effect on the battery.

2) SPB pocket plus battery indicator is only reading at 10% increments? (100%, 90%, 80%, etc) Was it always like this? I don't remember.

I can't think of too many other issues, other than the occasional lockups and having to reboot. This could be the cause of my installed apps or the cpu speed as previously mentioned- possibly causing instability? Or is it just me?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] DrLaban:
Quick question...

This ROM is only for the US, right?

(I live in Norway and got a TyTN)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] reweiss1:
Well, because of the soft reset problem (MMS file structure lost after reset), I had to bite the bullet and perform a hard reset, then spend the next 2 hours with reconfiguring my 8500. Although I had an SPB backup file, I didn't think it would maintain the MMS file structure. So all is good now. Another mystery of ROM updates I guess. Thanks again for your help.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] wpbear:
1. I disagree I think the new ROM is MUCH better on battery life. The OS makes the difference, since I have ran 1.27/1.33/1.34 radios and all are better battery on the new OS.

2.The battery increments were always 10% at a time.

3. No lockups on my device since new OS.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] wpbear:
It will work but you will have to change your SMS/MMS and GPRS internet settings for your provider.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] quattro_joe:
Is there a way to remove the PTT functionality

I just installed this ROM, and the PTT button brings up a PTT service initialization. I have been using the PTT button to start MS Voice Command, and would still like to do that. I tried installing the PTTFix.cab and that doesn't work now. Is there a way to revert the PTT button to the original Rom?

thanks

Joe
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] wpbear:
There is an entire discussion on this on the old PTTFix thread. Read that thread, but basically do a Hard Reset, run the Latest PTTFix before you touch the PTT button. Important to run the PTTFix FIRST before doing anything else. Seems to work for most, but not all.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] URPREY:
Still having issues with the hard-coded proxy. I can't download some podcasts while using MediaNet, and I have a spotty data connection bypassing the proxy and using MyISP. I hope there's another solution to bypassing the proxy in MediaNet...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] wpbear:
THe proxy in PIE can be removed in the registry then you can still use the MediaNet Connection for dialing out.

simply delete it

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Internet Settings]
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] michaeldowns:
New ROM 2.06.502.3 causes USB connect failures

Hi All,

On my system, with the newest Cingular ROM posted here, USB connections to ActiveSync are hosed.

With the settings:

Settings -> USB to PC -> Enable advanced network functionality - UNCHECKED.

With this unchecked the Hermes shows in the PC device manager as:

Windows CE USB Device -> HTC USB Sync

With the settings:

Settings -> USB to PC -> Enable advanced network functionality - CHECKED.

The PC device manager shows the 8525 as a Network device which will not stay connected and ActiveSync fails to recognize it.

In general, upon connecting over USB cable, there are many random failures to recognize the USB device and it is listed in the PC device manager as an Unknown USB device.

I would avoid the newest ROM build

2.06.502.3 02/02/07 ?? 1.34.00.10 32.67.7020.10H 15671.3.3.0

The original ROM as shipped from Cingular had no such issues.

++md++
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
i disagree.. i have always had horrible usb issues on all roms with my 8525 and my xp machine.. however when i use my work machine with win2k (same Active sync version) and the enhanced usb function on the phone turned on i have no issues... this is the same set up i have for my wizard which never had any issues on either machine...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] aadadams:
Unfortunately, in Vista, I cannot get the device to sync using IR, BT, or USB. I have hard reset the device a number of times. I tried without installing the ext rom and with. I tried uninstalling WMDC and reinstalling. Anyone with a fix.... I am downloading the original ROM now, because I have to be able to sync.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] wpbear:
Very broad generaliztion in your comments. I have no issues and think the new ROM actually syncs faster via USB. I have not tried BT or IR though. It might be a conflict in the PC. Did you delete the old partnership before doing anything. The old ROM partnership was invalid and I had to delete and re sync.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] aadadams:
I tried all of the above. I was not able to get it to sync.

Only: Connecting..................................... ERROR

I gave up on the cooked version. I may try the original Cingular ROM later to see if it works at some point.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] URPREY:
if I delete the EnableAutoDetect key, PIE can't connect at all. Is that the key you were referring to?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] michaeldowns:
New ROM 2.06.502.3 causes USB connect failures

Hi,

The statement may be broad but that is the case and seems to be a valid argument.

As I mentioned, on my system this is the behavior, where I had not experienced this with the original ROMs.

Even without advanced networking functionality checked, I get "USB device not recognized" errors more than 98% of the time.

Yes, I had deleted old partnerships on the PC before upgrading the ROMs and then setup a new partnership.

I am open to suggestion...

Thanks,

++md++
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] edwinyuen:
Md,

I completely agree with you. I've had nothing but problems with my USB connects since I upgraded to the ROM. I have an ongoing thread over at HoFo about this. At least for me, it's been confirmed by other coworkers.

-Edwin
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] aadadams:
Are you guys using XP or Vista?

@Edwin,

Could you post a link?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] eagle 1:
I guess I must be lucky.. I have had no issues with syncing on either XP or vista via USB with this rom. Also, internet sharing is so much easier than wireless modem app.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mcrochip:
Faxing

So... I saw a post about how to fax with the 8525 as a fax-modem. Does anyone know if that's still possible with the new ROM?

I upgraded last week from the file posted in this forum, and it's really nice most of the time (CommMgr sometimes whines about starting for bad certificates or something)... so this question is just a curiosity.

-Steve
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] dpgzx11:
Maybe I have misunderstood something here but I have an 8525 bought on the first day it was released and run XP and have never had any issues with it being recognized over USB from my pc with ActiveSync running.

Did I miss something somewhere in the conversation?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
i dont think so.. some people have bad usb issues, some dont.. i have had them on my original and my replacement handset on my xp machine at home, however have no issues on my win2k work machine... i am also running the 4.5 beta, that might be where my issues stem from as well.. i dunno, and actually dont care to much, i very rarely us my pc, i sync all my stuff with an exchange server....

OH!!! something i just thought of that might be causing some people issues... before putting it on the usb either kill your data connection or put the phone in flight mode then see if your connecting problems go away.. i had an issue with this on the aku2.6 cingular rom..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] dpgzx11:
Info in this thread

First off I want to say thank you to all of the ppl that have posted good info in this thread and to the hosts of this site. I have learned a lot in the past week or so since I found it and have to say it is the best info on HTC phones I have found.

I have a Cingular 8525 that I purchased the first day they officially released it here and I love it.

I have spent the last week reading posts and the wiki and really want to upgrade but I am seeing so many conflicting messages about what works and what does not work.

Many posts do not say what os on pc they are running or explicitly which device or which mods or which additional apps loaded.

This is nuts. I program for a living...When testing something out especially a new OS you don't load up a bunch of other apps that could effect it! You see if the environment is stable first! Then and only then do you add in other apps to test their compatability with the new OS and one at a time!

Sorry for the rant/long post but I have read so much conflicting information on this site in the last week or so it is not funny. When I get a new device either pc,pda,cell phone whatever. I NEVER INSTALL ANYTHING UNTIL I KNOW IT IS STABLE. Then I install one thing at a time and make sure it is still stable. I have computers that I have not reinstalled for 5 and more years and are still stable and solid as a rock.

Sorry about ranting but after reading wiki's and threads for over a week I am no closer to knowing the best way to upgrade my cingular 8525. Feel free to flame me if I am in any way wrong.

I just want to keep open all options of future upgrades and be able to add or remove any of them and go back to what is in the device now and I just have not seen that in any wiki or post that was made clear!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] edwinyuen:
I'm running Vista RTM and WMDC RTM. The link is below

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1110012&page=2

My post is the first on that page (different name there) and then conversations ensue.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] wpbear:
I am running XP SP2 w/ all updates suggested and critical. I have a XP Pro and Home setup the same and no USB issues. I did have an issue with the new Activesync 4.5 though on the laptop since it doesnt have a native serial or IR port the new activesync always boots up with port issue, but I cancel that. When I do plug in the USB it sync fast and correct. I went back to activesync 4.2 on the laptop. So it was not the 8525 or the ROM with my error.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ntwrkwizard:
It is way more than just cutting out that one line. If you just cut that one line you will still go throught the proxy because there are a few HEX lines that actually cause PIE to do a PPP tunnel to the proxy. (Hence why Opera works fine when PIE fails) This setting that everyone has been playing with makes it so that PIE is capable of looking for the actual internet connection and determining if it wants to use the physical connection or the logical PPP tunnel.

Now, although I know how to fix this problem, I am not the whiz who can figure out how to clump it into a single solution or CAB. So I will provide the info and if someone else wants to test it.. then by all means.

So because I don't know how to lump it all together, there are some manual things that must be completed first. They are:

<BACKUP REGISTRY> (DO THIS SO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO RESTORE TO IN THE EVENT THAT YOU HOSE THIS UP. IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR BACK UP, DON'T ASK ME FOR HELP)

Delete or rename the following binary key: HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\

ConnMgrExternalPath (Delete this Binary Key or Rename to something like BAKConnMgrExternalPath)

Then take this one value that everyone keeps deleting and flip it to "1":

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings

EnableAutoDetect="1"

Rename this Key:

Rename HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\DisableProxy to HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\BAKDisableProxy

Rename this Key:

Rename HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\PreferredConnections to HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\BAKPreferredConnections

Then import the attached REG file. If you've already modified the two network connections called "Media Net" and "My ISP" then I'd suggest you take the time to understand the REG file. Otherwise, if you've left them along and have been dealing with the broken down connections, then this will fix.

***Added***

The purpose of this whole hack was so that everyone could have unrestricted internet settings for the use of the Cingular ROM on unlocked and SuperCID. If you're a Cingular user, here are the settings you need to add to your Media Net Connection to regain Media Net Access:

1. Go to your "connections" in settings and find the network you want to use for your MediaNet connection

2. Make sure the following are checked:

This network connects to the Internet: Checked

This network uses a proxy server to connect to the Internet: Checked

3. Click Advanced and then tap on where it says HTTP and enter the following and then hit OK

Server: wireless.cingular.com

Port: 80

4. Then tap SOCK and enter the following settings then tap OK

Server: localhost

Port: 1080

Type: Socks 4

%%% Make sure that you don't have any other proxy settings, but this will return MediaNet back to normal. Make a BACKUP for safe keepings. %%%

***End Addition***

Only thing still outstanding is VPN connectivity and binding to the Internet Sharing setup.

Have Fun and let me know if you have problems.

NtwrkWizard
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] aadadams:
This is strange, but I have been running Vista since RC1 in Ultimate and Enterprise forms. I have used several iterations of the HTC roms, but never had any trouble syncing with WMDC (Beta or RTM) or Activesync (Either version: Beta or RTM) via USB, BT, or the occassional IR. I work for a MS Campus, and I have been using Vista Enterprise due to our Ultimate licenses being delayed. Now that we have them I will be installing Ultimate again soon. The new licensing scheme requires separate licences per install as opposed to an individual license for the site but, hopefully afterward this problem goes away and I can experience AKU 3.3 Joy.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] edwinyuen:
I am running Ultimate but I also have a Enterprise machine. I've never had problems with any device until I went to this ROM. I have twenty other coworkers on 8525s using the old ROM and none have this issue (and Neither did I until.....) I do have one other coworker who is on the new ROM and has had similar, if not as severe, issues with USB connections.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] aadadams:
When I get a chance I will dig deeper. Hopefully there is an answer on the horizon. Maybe this is among the issues causing this ROM to not be released from HTC/Cingular to the masses.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] austin_boy:
There is a bug in the new ROM icon indicator: If you are in a call or browsing the internet and you move from EDGE to 3G or vice versa, the indicator wont change unless you elease the call/data session
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] eagle 1:
Thanks NtwrkWizard:

This does completely remove the proxy which now allows data connections while also using the phone.. SO anyone having issues with using data and phone at the same time, this is the fix

thanks again
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Zacster01:
Upgrade rom using Virtual PC on Mac

Has anyone successfully upgraded there 8525 to the new rom using a mac? I have tried using Virtual PC but when I run the exe my 8525 gets disconnected and nothing happens. I really want to update to the new rom but do not have any other means to do it. Any ideas?

Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mikeeey:
so just a quick easy question guys, is this rom worth upgrading too? or should i upgrade to the version right before this with the earlier radio rom?

i dont wanna flash this on and then not be able to flash back to on older one that worked better
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] wpbear:
You can flash back and forth.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mikeeey:
really??

i dont understand then. how can u know when ur not able to flash back to an older version? people will often say their stuck with the newest radio version.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] walshieau:
with this application you can http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=293651
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] phathead785:
How can I undo these settings? I didnt realize I wouldnt be able to access my MediaNET homepage...please help. Thanks

I changed everything back (by removing BAK) but what about the reg key? thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
because people dont understand... you can in fact flash back and forth with an official RUU and this will also change your radio, HOWEVER this will not change the radio bootloader... what this means is simply this, if you have a new radio and new radio bootloader and decide to flash to an old rom with 1.16 radio, then it will be radio 1.16 with the new radio bootloader, which also means you cant use mtty to change your radio and you also cant use the radio update utilities in *.nbf format.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] perlmane:
Now I am totally confused!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] walshieau:
to correct shotgunmark.... once you have radio bootloader 108 you can only use upgrades in .nbh format to update your Radio ROM... this can be done in many ways though, extracting the .nb file from the appropriate .nbh full update and creating your own .nbh file using nbhgen...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ntwrkwizard:
Did you backup your registry like I specifically stated in the post? If you did, you can simply restore your registry and all of the problems would be fixed.

If you're not able to access the MediaNet information, you must be missing the proxy settings. Follow the directions on the page here:

https://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/tutorials/KB56475.html

Make sure you're modifying the MediaNet settings and not the my isp.

I'll update the registry hack if asked again, otherwise, I'm going to keep it as vanilla as possible for those enthusiasts who are experienced with ROMs and not on Cingular. This way people can have a hermes ROM that doesn't try to point all internet access to Cingular.

Let me know, if you have questions.

NtwrkWizard
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] phathead785:
Yes, I did back it up, but when I went to restore it, the SBP log said it was corrupted...

So how can I fix this? I need the original registry keys. If I input the cingular proxy as located on the tutorial, I can not access streaming video (but I can access MEdiaNet)

Before, with the old registry settings, I could access both the MEdianet page and my streaming videos without having the proxy checked.

Can you send me the original registry settings? Thanks so much@!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
i corrected my spelling mistake above... also i have been gone for several days and i may have missed something(this whole M$ thing gave me a short vacation from here), but last time i checked nbhgen doesnt work right on the hermes due to the security checks when flashing... but like i said, i may have missed something along the way, so if your statement is now true please direct me to the proper place to read up on this..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] walshieau:
all you have to do is download nbhgen.exe and change the sample.txt file to match the CID and Model Number of your device, along with the appropriate .nb files extracted from nbh files related to your device giving the exception to the Trinity Radio ROM which can be used on the hermes... you can read my first post here.... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=294012
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ntwrkwizard:
Ok, define what you mean when you say you cannot access streaming video. Does that mean you cannot access http://cingularvideo.cingular.com from PIE or is it that when you go to http://cingularvideo.cingular.com and you find a show you want it will launch real and then die?

PM me so we can take this offline till we get this straight.

NW
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] wilbur:
I've just flashed this Cingular ROM onto my T-Mobile Vario II (with the original ROM).

I had been having massive problems with screen alignment issues practically since i got the device in September- but since i flashed this on Thursday, I've not had to reset at all. While this period of only four days may not seem very long, i can assure you that it is a vast improvement on my usual experience of resetting several times a day...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] raymondu999:
But wouldn't you be experiencing video call probs?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
hey thanks for that.. i read that thread the other day but must have missed that!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] wilbur:
yes I am - I can't use it. But as i've only ever used video calling on the day i got it out of the box, i'm not missing it...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] djdharma:
I too had my keys moved around after the flash ( symbol keys only).

The other issue I had was my MMS settings are gone and I dont even have an option of mms in order to re configure the settings.

Anyone know how to fix this issue?

Thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] xultar:
You need to dig through the thread. I think it is somewhere from pages 15 to 30 on how to fix the keyboard problem. Also go to the wiki and check out the ext_roms there are files to fix it in there

I even disucssed it in pages 45 through 60 some where.

Read. You'll like it and you'll learn some stuff.