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[G3 General] Japultra:
I took a fork to the Droid X screen and tried to scratch the screen with all I had. There were very slight thin lines but the screen looked great for the most part after such abuse. This was the original strength gorilla glass. None of my other GG phones have had scratches. I've had a good experience with them.
[G3 General] amirpotter:
I have never used screen protectors and my previous device was s2 which I had it for 3 years without even a single scratch

Needless to say I'm so careful and I don't even let my screen get dirty by touches and leave it for a while. Because I don't like the feeling of touching a dirty surface.
[G3 General] Sidz4u:
Why would you want to do that ? :/
[G3 General] Japultra:
I was drunk and wanted to show off the gorilla glass :D
[G3 General] fire219:
Gorilla glass is basically polycarbonate plastic. Polycarb scratches easily, as anyone with modern glasses will attest to.

But in my experience, the scratches are very faint.
[G3 General] oracleoftruth:
I've got a deep scratch. Only had phone in pocket. Not great.
[G3 General] stevemiddie:
Rubbish
[G3 General] Professor Jones:
I always use a screen protector. Considering their cost and what you risk if you don't use one (irreversible damage) I don't see any valid reason to not use one.
[G3 General] GieltjE:
Mine has severe erosion from a simple smooth cloth protector that that a little fold in it. And that after the first week with light usage (just work and home where it just sat on my desk).

Never seen such a bad glass, the old S2 has survived much much worse and still has a flawless screen.
[G3 General] Mchi5:
No one ever said gorilla glass is indestructible. I'd say 50% of people, android or iPhone user, I see havw cracked screens or huge scratches

Why first thing I always get is a tempered glass screen protector, and I try to have one put on before I even leave the store.

I can attest to the tempered glass screen protector. . Had it on my Note 3, my little kid threw my phone against the wall, glass screen scattered but the phone screen was perfect. Replace the glass screen protector and you're good to go

Don't understand why more people aren't using tempered glass screen protectors
[G3 General] Vivasanti:
I keep my phone in a pouch/sleeve - cause i hate cases, keeps it well protected.
[G3 General] Dvin211:
Do you by chance wear a diamond earring? I ended up with a scratch on my S4 after my gf used it one night with hers in.
[G3 General] rkirmeier:
Amazing that you guys are scratching the glass with fabric... :rolleyes:
[G3 General] GTMoraes:
Gorilla Glass is strong, and scratch resistant. To iron, steel and other stuff.

But sand particles contains quartz, which Gorilla Glass is not resistant to. Remember the Mohs scale? Yeah.

If you throw your phone on the sand, gravel etc, it'll probably get scratched.

A solution for this would be Sapphire. but Sapphire is expensive, and brittle.

Just keep your pocket clean from sand, and don't throw it on the sand, and it won't have noticeable scratches.
[G3 General] dairymasta:
Yeah the way they advertise these gorilla glass screens as though it'll never scratch, yet they scratch so easily in your pocket...

And for everyone who's saying buy a screen protector - that's fair enough, but you're missing the point. The way it's advertised I shouldn't HAVE to buy one for the phone to be scratch free!
[G3 General] MalekoUK:
I really would love to know HOW these people scratch their screens...

Even my wife who throws her phone around like anything, and throws it in her bag has ZERO scratches.

Do you guys keep sand in your pockets or sommit??? :eek:
[G3 General] sic0048:
In all seriousness, everytime a new phone comes out, there are lots of people saying they don't need a screen protector because of Gorrilla Glass or whatever brand the manufacturer used. Now that the tempered glass screen protectors are available, I will never have another phone unprotected. My last phone, a Galaxy Nexus, went naked because I hated the plastic screen protectors that were available when I bought the phone. Although I never got any deep scratches in the screen, the screen had lots of small/micro scratches on it. It didn't effect use, but you could see them if you looked for them.

On a lighter note.....

Of course the fork was plastic, but he was too drunk to notice! :laugh:
[G3 General] Xerionius:
It's simple: Materials that have a higher/similar hardness than Gorilla Glass will scratch it, materials that are significantly softer won't, no matter what amount of pressure you apply.

That's why I think Gorilla Glass is pretty useless: There aren't many materials that are harder than usual glass and softer than Gorilla Glass. The only difference is how deep the scratches will be, but to me, not the slightest scratch is acceptable, so I will always be using tempered glass screen protectors and I will keep replacing them every few weeks/months.

For example, sand and stone will definitely scratch it. For example, you pick something from the ground and then got little pieces of stone your hand, then you put your hand in your pocket. Later you put your device in the same pocket, it will be scratched in no time. And even dust may contend sand.

Iron won't be able to scratch normal glass ("knife testing" screens is pretty stupid because of that).

I don't know anything that will scratch usual glass but won't scratch Gorilla Glass, so if you do, please tell me.
[G3 General] Richieboy67:
There are cool demos at the gorilla glass/corning site.

Scratching it requires more pressure than regular glass as does breaking it.

I do not use any screen protectors since before my nexus 4. I've never had a scratch. In just careful about keeping my hands clean and I use clean dedicated eyeglass checking cloth to clean.

Had my nexus 4 for a very long time and it never had a scratch. So far none on the g3 either.
[G3 General] Xerionius:
Many people I know say that their smartphone doesn't have a single scratch, but when I take a look at the screen, it is full of slight scratches. The just don't see them because they don't look at it closely under the right light conditions.

And for me, it's just impossible to keep it clean. For example, even if I kept my G3 at home when on a beach vacation, when I come back, my pockets still won't be completely free from sand, even after washing my pants several times. And that's just one of many situations.

I tried not using a screen protector for a couple of days on my LG P990 and on my first Find 5. Both devices had some minor scratches just after a couple of days.
[G3 General] tntgdh:
Sand buddy. Sand is our biggest enemy. I gers inside your pocket, or case and scratches our beautiful phones. I got some on mine for leaving my credit card in contact with my screen inside my pocket.
[G3 General] Richieboy67:
To me if I can't see a scratch or if I have to try hard to see it then it is not an issue.

Protectors are fine for some but on the recent devices I've just not needed them.

Going back to my sg19001, now that had some scratches. lol
[G3 General] GTMoraes:
Plastic protectors are useless. Their only use is to get scratches so your screen seems scratched. It's useless.

Tempered glass screen protectors are only a lower quality Gorilla Glass above your Gorilla Glass. Again, it's not as scratch resistant as Gorilla Glass, but hey, you can change it pretty easily.

I'm in doubt if these tiny winy micro scratches are from GORILLA GLASS, or they're from the anti glare/anti fingerprint coating being scratched. They're so tiny that I don't believe it's just Gorilla Glass getting scratched. I think it would be deeper.
[G3 General] tissot:
... But a leather pouch with pure silk linin?.. Kidding with you.

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I think scratches is a subjective thing.

What is a scratch? To be or not to be?
[G3 General] Mchi5:
I have three words to answer your question. . Three. Little. . Kids

Again I stated before why would you not use a glass screen protector. I can't tell the difference in screen image quality and the feel is the same as stock
[G3 General] Richieboy67:
My kids use my nexus 7 and an old HP touchpad with cm all the time and the screens are still fine.

Why not use a screen protector? Added expense, added hassle, less responsive screen and because it really is not needed.
[G3 General] Mchi5:
I have to disagree. My kids all have iPad minis and without a case they have shattered two iPad screens.

Added expense? $35 for glass screen protector vs over $100 for Warrenty claim and deductible to fix a screen.

To each their own. I find no lag or difference in using a screen protector. Granted I'm talking only the glass screen protector. The plastic ones are pure crap
[G3 General] meyerweb:
No. It isn't. http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/news-events/What-Makes-Corning®-Gorilla®-Glass-So-Tough
[G3 General] Richieboy67:
I use a case for device protection. Much better and only one time cost.

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The videos are cool

http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/gorilla-channel
[G3 General] geoff5093:
I hate screen protectors. They get much more scratched than the phone display, and it causes the screen to appear less sharp, lower contrast, and increases the glare. I guess resale value is a reason, but the few bucks less after a year or so is worth it to have a more enjoyable experience when I have the phone.
[G3 General] lexluthor:
You need to try a tempered glass screen protector. None of that is really a problem with one on.
[G3 General] suljo94:
Metal under normal use won't scratch gorilla glass but will scratch gorilla glass is sand and diamonds because sand and diamonds have a hardness rating of 9 and gg had one of 7,5 or 8 don't recall metal has a hardness rating that is lower then 7( I thought 5, but not sure) so most of the scratches here that are made by "normal usage" are made in your pockets by sand or by hands that have dirt on them (main reasons) I don't think anyone here did it because he had diamonds in his pocket too...

On a less serious note for those who think there phone is scratched badly, sandman from marvel scratches his phone every time he uses it ?
[G3 General] Richieboy67:
I agree with the case, just not a screen protector but just my preference. :)
[G3 General] daihiep:
Thanks!

Hi there!

I did just ordered the Orzly tempered glass screen protector , thanks for the tip!:)
[G3 General] meyerweb:
If my kids were still little I'd put cases and screen protectors on devices they used. I don't use them on my device (and wouldn't give my phone to my kids to play with).

But I also understand that even with a case and a screen protector the right (or wrong) drop is going to break the screen. They're glass, and glass will crack and shatter if stressed too much.
[G3 General] EcPercy:
Just get a tempered glass screen protector. Problem solved...
[G3 General] Richieboy67:
I think the screen protectors only help with scratches. A good case will protect from a major drop.
[G3 General] radiantbits:
Had my G2 for year without case and screen protectors. Dropped it several times on the floor... still no single scratch on the glass, but got some scratches on the edges and back. Will definitely get a case for my G3. The screen protector itself does not make sense to me :)
[G3 General] 28cliff:
It's my understanding that a good Tempered Glass (TG) protector consists of a silicon base that both holds the unit to the screen and to some degree has shock absorbent abilities. The next layer, polyethylene terephthalate or PET has an adhesive that connects the glass. Add an anti-oil coating, all in a package that is <0.4 mm thick. If the phone falls just right perhaps the less than ten dollar TG protector just might save a hundred and sixty dollar screen repair. Of course, a good case such as a Otter Defender with the TG protector will extend (but not guaranteed) the odds of a safe landing.

You pay's your money and makes your choice.

CliffordS
[G3 General] meyerweb:
Assuming that silicon base is less than half the total thickness, I don't think you can expect much shock absorption out of .1 to .15mm of silicon. I could be wrong.
[G3 General] EcPercy:
A tempered glass (TG) does make a difference. I have dropped my phone and cracked the TG protector and not the screen. I decided to go without any case this time around and just use the TG protector. It does what it was meant to do.
[G3 General] coldfusion167:
Yeah - I've started to use screen protectors after I noticed small scratches in my previous phones screen.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nathan30:
Hello,

I want to activate the FULL GPU RENDERING on my ROM

How is it possible ?

Thanks a lot
[Nexus 9 General] wideopn11:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

Let the modding begin!
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
Thanks God

Need root so bad

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Here is the kernel

https://android.googlesource.com/device/htc/flounder-kernel/

When I get home i will do some moding

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Will be building a kernel with SELinux disabled
[Nexus 9 General] Lt.Tealc:
great will install this on my Nexus 5.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] b_ophir:
can anyone shed some light on this wierd bug im having...

im coming from sense rom with latest firmware and recovery and every aosp rom im flashing (4.4.4)

has this wake screen bug.

once my screen turns off it wont turn on again.

i tried logging and came up with this line: Unblanking display: 0, after locking screen.

i searched google and found similar issues but no answers.

any ideas?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] jsolan:
I know this is very old, but I was wondering if anyone else has seen this or has a solution?

I see a very similar issue on every aosp rom I've tried. I did not see this on any sense rom.

If the phone sits for a while, the screen turns on fine, but if it's been active for a bit the screen will not turn on. The touchscreen still works, but the screen is black (or sometimes pure white) and I can't see anything. It feels to me like it's heat related, the warmer the phone is, the less likely it is to turn on. If I hold it up to a cold glass or something for 10-15 seconds, it usually comes on.

While in recovery, the screen always works fine, no matter how warm the phone is.

My current version:

(bootloader) version: 0.5

(bootloader) version-bootloader: 2.18.0000

(bootloader) version-baseband: 1.35a.32.45.27

(bootloader) version-cpld: None

(bootloader) version-microp: None

(bootloader) version-main: 5.18.502.1

(bootloader) version-misc: PVT SHIP S-OFF

(bootloader) serialno: mod edit

(bootloader) imei: mod edit

(bootloader) product: evita

(bootloader) platform: HBOOT-8960

(bootloader) modelid: PJ8310000

(bootloader) cidnum: 11111111

(bootloader) battery-status: good

(bootloader) battery-voltage: 3841mV

(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic

(bootloader) security: off

(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP

(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT

(bootloader) commitno-bootloader: dirty-d3bfc037

(bootloader) hbootpreupdate: 11

(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0

all: Done!

finished. total time: 0.064s
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reg66:
i rooted my device using towelroot. the knox counter still shows 0x0.

is there any way to install twrp recovery without tripping knox?

cheers experts

edit: (so that i can backup my stock rom) yes, i know i can reflash stock rom without tripping knox, but want to try the non-knox tripping instructions to flash custom rom, having a complete backup before i do
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reg66:
would it be possible to use this app to install twrp without tripping knox?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

Installing anything "Custom" , will trip the knox counter

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeepankarS:
Well on the i9505, few TW based custom roms dont trip knox :P

But yeah any custom recovery or kernel will trip knox :P

"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
[HTC One SV] vitaliuz:
Hi guys,

Try find couple days solution, but nothing. I have problem with my htc. I try write new ROM but I think i made something wrong. Phone is restarts on Htc logo. I try wrote ViperSV_1.5.0. It looks like it finished good but it dont starts.

version: 0.5

version-bootloader: 2.00.0000

version-baseband: 1.15.40a.00.04

version-cpld: None

version-microp: None

version-main:

version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON

serialno: **************

imei: *****************

product: k2_ul

platform: HBOOT-8930

modelid: PL8010000

cidnum: HTC__Y13

battery-status: good

battery-voltage: 3681mV

partition-layout: Generic

security: on

build-mode: SHIP

Try reinstall recovery.img boot.img but it is the same problem. Please can somebody help.
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
How did you flash the boot.img?

Did you try another rom?
[HTC One SV] vitaliuz:
Thanks for your answer. I flash it with cmd. Fastboot boot flash boot.img
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
Make sure that you write the cmd correct:

fastboot flash boot boot.img
[HTC One SV] vitaliuz:
Sorry i wrote wrong :) but I flashed like you wrote.
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
Have you tried another rom?
[HTC One SV] vitaliuz:
I had try stock Rom. Check photo please.
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
Sorry, but what recovery are you using?

I don't think that a v2.8.1.0 TWRP recovery exist for k2ul. Where do you have it from?
[HTC One SV] vitaliuz:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2766186
[HTC One SV] vitaliuz:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2766186

I donwload this one :) what twrp i must download if this one is wrong for me?
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
Omg, this is for a totally different device!

Lets hope you did not damage any important partition with this.

Follow the link in my signature to my index thread, you will find almost on the top a link to a thread with working recovery. Use the recovery from first post, the second post is for boost mobile only.
[HTC One SV] vitaliuz:
C:\fastboot>fastboot flash recovery TWRP-2.7.0.1-k2_ul-k2u.img

sending 'recovery' (8452 KB)...

OKAY [ 1.028s]

writing 'recovery'...

OKAY [ 2.249s]

finished. total time: 3.300s
[HTC One SV] vitaliuz:
trying install ROM k2ul_4.2.2_3.11.401.1_stock_odexed_v3 and its successful. But it restarts. I must reflash boot.img ?
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
You must always flash the boot.img when you are S-on!
[HTC One SV] vitaliuz:
yes I flash boot.img from zip file but problem the same. Have you more solutions?
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
Try another rom. If its still the same, you maybe killed something with your wrong recovery.
[HTC One SV] vitaliuz:
and it is not possible fix it? I try ViperSV_1.5.0 Rom and its the same problem. Restarts on HTC logo.
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
It does not even boot into Android OS?
[HTC One SV] vitaliuz:
No. It turns on and it shows HTC ONE logo and than after ~5 seconds it restarts. Again and again.
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
You can try to reflash firmware, maybe this can help: http://d-h.st/uwh You need to be (re)locked to get this working!

Download this file, rename it to PL80IMG.zip and copy it to your external sd.

Boot into bootloader, let it scan for files and confirm to flash with vol+ as it asks for.

Wait til it is finished, it can take some minutes.

After that, unlock again, reflash twrp recovery, rom and boot.img.
[HTC One SV] vitaliuz:
Thanks for your help. I will try it tomorrow. Hope it will helps.

Have I understand correct that first i must relock phone. After it rename downloaded file and copy to sd card.

I don't understand about scan. When i boot into bootloader it will find this file automaticly?

And after it unlock phone like i did it before. Right?
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
Yes, you must be relocked and bootloader find it automaticly:

And also yes, unlock, like you did first time.
[HTC One SV] vitaliuz:
So i made everything like you told, but the problem do not gone. I try read some forums and maybe I need install RUU? But how i can check wich one exactly I need?
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
There is no RUU available for you my friend, sorry.

As you are S-on, the RUU must be equal or higher than your actually hboot. And there is only one RUU available which is lower in number.

Only solution would be S-off, but you only can get S-off on a running OS. :(
[HTC One SV] vitaliuz:
so it is no more solutions? :)
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
It seems, there are no more (at least that i know).
[HTC One SV] raisinette:
;)

I think I might be able to help you out here, [MENTION=4998964]vitaliuz[/MENTION] .

[MENTION=3142060]old.splatterhand[/MENTION] helped me out with a stock rom flashing after my stock phone got stuck on the boot screen. At first everything worked well, but then the software crashed and I tried to flash again and again and then tried viper, no success, still crashing after starting to load the user interface and boots again. Now I found this post and I've made the same mistake as you did, I as well used the wrong version of TWRP.

I think you could try doing the previous firmware flashing step again, but this time try renaming the file ''PL80IMG'' without the .zip. I assume this is the error we both made.

EDIT: My phone loads the file and then says ''checking'' after I renamed the file, but it does not ask for confirmation or anything. I believe this means the firmware file was not installed, yes? What could I do?
[HTC One SV] vitaliuz:
Thanks for you answer [MENTION=6101057]raisinette[/MENTION]. Damn i forgot that it must be some confirmation for PL80IMG.zip and it doesn't ask me it . Thats means that it doesn't install for me too?
[HTC One SV] raisinette:
Maybe. Give it a try. Maybe there's a different firmware zip available somewhere (I did a quick search, but couldn't find any that wasn't removed or blocked due to high activity) that might work? Or maybe a hboot update from 2.00.0000 to 2.21 might help (I noticed that the TWRP flash post included a point saying that hboot 2.21 is recommended http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=41456540#post41456540 )?

I guess we'll have to wait for [MENTION=3142060]old.splatterhand[/MENTION] 's reply, I'm sure he can help us :D
[HTC One SV] vitaliuz:
:)) let's wait
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
You can only flash signed, unmodified zips, as long as you are S-on.

I thought, the firmware.zip was flashed?

Basicly the firmware is straight from inside the OTA.zip. And as it must be equal or higher you can only use the latest OTA.

For k2ul there was only hboot 2.00 released, as far as i know.

You can try to flash hboot 2.21 with firmware.zip from k2u update, but i doubt that it will flash.

The same for k2ul update for 2.14.401.x: you can try to extract and flash the firmware.zip from OTA, but i doubt it will, because of lower software number.
[HTC One SV] raisinette:
[MENTION=4998964]vitaliuz[/MENTION] , I just wanted to check in and see if you've gotten your device to work-

Mine is still in the same condition, the firmware just simply does not flash. Oh, and also the adb does not recognize my device anymore, but fastboot does. I have no idea why, but this happened after I tried to flash the pl80img.zip. I've tried re-downloading and flashing the file again maybe 10 times with no results.

So basically I'm getting the feeling that it's time to start looking for a new phone :D
[HTC One SV] vitaliuz:
sorry, long time I wasn't here :) i did not fix my phone too. But one week ago I delivered it to Mobile Phones service :) so I still waiting news from them :) if they will fix it thats mean that it is some solution :D if not that means we have phone for parts :)
[HTC One SV] vitaliuz:
Hi!

I come back :) so my phone was fixed. I dont know what they gave did but now it is S-off

But yesterday I try update my phone and after reboot this problem starts again. I cant understand why.. I did not do any changes now, and offcourse there is no restore or factory reset. Any ideas?