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[Nexus 6  General] Poke_N_PDA:
I've read elsewhere that T-Mobile Corporate stores will sell outright but the franchise stores won't. Sounds like you disagree. Is this true?
[Nexus 6  General] monkeypaws:
Don't quote me. It seems the information were getting is all over the place. It might be best to call the stores the day before or a couple days before to check on that and availability before you commit to going in in case they say no.
[Nexus 6  General] PhantomGamers:
FWIW The review unit Google sent out to people like Droid Life was the "T-Mo version" (came w/ tmo manual) of the device, and Droid Life was able to just pop a VZW sim into theirs and make phone calls fine.
[Nexus 6  General] monkeypaws:
Just because it had Tmobile papers, doesn't make it a T-Mobile specific device. It could be google sent review units with flyers that Tmobile paid for.
[Nexus 6  General] PhantomGamers:
Seems like a stretch to me, lol. Warranty and Return Information != "flyers"
[Nexus 6  General] antiochasylum:
A T-Mobile store will sell you a device without being a customer. You just have to find one willing to do so. I bought 2 different note 3's from 2 different corporate stores in my area. Even with managers involved. Because I talked to the managers and they all said yes. Call ahead and ask. They will do it.
[Nexus 6  General] Poke_N_PDA:
Wow. Good to know. I hope I'm wrong.
[Nexus 6  General] Joshnor713:
Thanks for the info. Didn't think about getting the manager involved, will do if I run into trouble. However, I would hate to cause a scene on launch day if there's a line behind me :(

Also, another situation I don't want is if the person I talk to on the phone says yes, but then when I go to buy it, that person says no. I can totally see that happening, the reps aren't the brightest :P
[Nexus 6  General] Duffmantp:
Just some FYI, T mobile 700mhz (BAND 12) will be kicking off on Long Island, NJ, and upstate NY. The 5 boroughs will take some time as T mobile doesn't "fully own" the frequency just yet. So being the Nexus 6 supports this, you should see some faster speeds coming out in the coming months for the markets i mentioned.
[Nexus 6  General] monkeypaws:
Sorry but I hope that the reps prioritize actual Tmobile customers over people just walking in on launch day who aren't customers to get a phone to use elsewhere.
[Nexus 6  General] Joshnor713:
And I hope this includes prepaid :D. My vibe is that they only care about postpaid.
[Nexus 6  General] monkeypaws:
Hope you guys get love too.
[Nexus 6  General] BigRick10:
T-Mobile will sell you a phone without service. The price of the phone is more without it though. I for one will be holding our stock for current customers post and prepaid customers.
[Nexus 6  General] monkeypaws:
That's awesome to hear on both fronts. I'm still on the fence about the n6 from my n5 but I'm glad :). Let's hope my local reps are the same. I have three stores around me so I can try a few.
[Nexus 6  General] antiochasylum:
Why would they do that? Money is money. Lol.
[Nexus 6  General] brian117:
Not just faster speeds, but better signal penetration inside buildings and basements as well. Can't wait to see how well it actually performs.
[Nexus 6  General] Poke_N_PDA:
what? why would it be more? Link please. I've never heard about any price other than $649.
[Nexus 6  General] Jfree3000:
Customer service? No one wants to be passed over just because someone has more money in hand who is not a customer.
[Nexus 6  General] Donjuanal:
No to mention they're getting more money out of selling the phone to a subscriber who continues to dump money into the company, than a random Joe who takes it elsewhere. One time sale vs continuing business.
[Nexus 6  General] BigRick10:
Cause we make nothing selling a phone at full price. Remember we no longer have contracts. So upgrades and post paid accounts are where reps and the stroke make money.
[Nexus 6  General] Duffmantp:
Yes. That's particularly why I still have AT&T service. And being that im in the boroughs I wont be getting it anytime soon.

Sucks becuase im in the middle of 4 T-Mobile sites. And no lte service in my building.
[Nexus 6  General] monkeypaws:
Well if it makes you guys feel better I saw artem from AP posted att pre orders go live on the 12th with shipping on 21st and sprint selling in stores on the 14th. No word from Verizon yet. https://plus.google.com/107797272029781254158/posts/R97cSgo8bDH
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
Better Signal Penetration in NJ? Oh hell yes, hopefully I will not see dead signal when I travel down south anymore!
[Nexus 6  General] kirdroid:
We get 6 months free Google play music subscription from Google play. That is worth the additional wait for preorder folks.
[Nexus 6  General] cwalker0906:
Keep telling yourself that lol
[Nexus 6  General] STi_Fanatic:
Unless you already have a subscription, in which case you get squat.
[Nexus 6  General] mb3030:
Do you have a source on this? I live on LI and would like to see specifically where they are upgrading in the area. Thanks
[Nexus 6  General] Duffmantp:
Plenty of sources. Most will start east end of LI. Then will be throughout Nassau and Suffolk. About 4 to 10 this year. And then alot more next year. First LI should be starting in a couple of weeks.
[Nexus 6  General] Jfree3000:
Looks like Verizon is being Verizon. Don't expect to see the nexus from them until December, if then.
[Nexus 6  General] INCREMENTAL:
Thanks for the info, he comments to someone on there and said he heard Verizon might not release it until 2015. Wow Verizon!!! I hope all you people that has ordered it already can be our guinea pigs for testing it out on Verizon lol.
[Nexus 6  General] monkeypaws:
Verizon is horrible when it comes to these things. I had Verizon pre smart phones for like 6 months then found Tmobile and saw how inexpensive they were. Been with them ever since
[Nexus 6  General] PaisanNYC:
When someone asks for sources, you are supposed to show your sources. :D

Unfortunately some of your original information is wrong. TV Channel 50 operates on the 700A freq. In the NYC-area, TV Channel 50 is WNJN (actually now is NJTV) out of Montclair NJ. It seems that broadcasting has stopped on Channel 50, but T-Mobile still doesn't have the right to use the freq in this area yet. NJTV doesn't have to give up the access until next summer, but since they ceased operations on ch 50 already, hopefully sooner. This affects Northern NJ, all 5 boros of NYC, southern Westchester county, and much of Nassau County. It is definitely possible for T-Mobile to launch Band 12 in eastern Nassau County and Suffolk County. As for NJ, I believe in south Jersey, NJTV is now broadcast on channel 23 I believe. No word yet for the NNJ/NY Metro area yet.

Fingers are crossed it all happens soon though!

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Lake Grove should have no problems right now with Band 12 LTE. There are no networks transmitting in Suffolk County or southern Connecticut that would affect deployment in your area. Nassau county is a different story.
[Nexus 6  General] mb3030:
Yeah lake grove is mostly covered in LTE, but we have pockets that don't cover well. My house specifically is one of those spots. With hangouts WiFi calling I don't care much anymore, but it used to be more of a problem. So when I heard they might be increasing coverage or rolling out a new band it peaked my interest. I'm going to be following this more closely now. Thanks
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
I can confirm that NJTV is on channel 23 down here in South Jersey.

Is the theoretical coverage of the band 12 accurate? Because the areas in pink (areas that T-Mobile has the 700A Frequency covered in SJ) Cover 99% of South Jersey entirely! If this is true areas where I had bad signal at before will finally have signal coverage because of Band 12?
[Nexus 6  General] Gorjira:
Question for ya [MENTION=219458]BigRick[/MENTION]. I'm about to start a job with T-Mo on Monday. I've heard that employees can't get phones IN STORE (I was told) until 30days after release BUT they can order ONLINE. Is this true? Also is there a window for me to accept the employee plan just in case?
[Nexus 6  General] Duffmantp:
So i wasn't wrong on my info, I knew there was a issue with with Tmobile using the frequency. And that it was a channel station, because that was the rumor i heard. And thank you for confirming it because I asked multiple people and no one had a answer. I also heard that there could be a issue on Long Island with WBAB, but i cant confirm that or it could be part of the NJTV that reaches to parts of Nassau, as you have stated, which is why only Suffolk is starting up for now. I can say the first town will be Riverhead.
[Nexus 6  General] jcarlm:
Boom! The T-Mobile store not far from me said they just got theirs in. Told me to come on to the store and they will let me handle one. Now I have to wait till my wife gets home so she can watch the kids.
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
Worrying about the kids? Your priorities are all wrong. :)
[Nexus 6  General] jcarlm:
Lol. Two boys, age 2 and 4 that will tear the store apart. Bout to just take them anyways once my youngest wakes up from nap. [emoji48]
[Nexus 6  General] monkeypaws:
Called two of my local stores and they said they didn't have ant test units but sales last year for the n5 were dead that they don't expect it to be crazy this time either. I was the first to even call about that at both stores. They said last year they only had two people come in to ask about the nexus 5.
[Nexus 6  General] lensgrabber:
Called a local store here and the guy said that last Wed the Moto rep was showing off the blue version to the staff. They are expecting stock for the 12th launch but said it was unlikely they would have the white available. He also said that anything was possible since they didn't really know what (32/64) they were getting or how many.
[Nexus 6  General] monkeypaws:
I'm just excited that I won't have to beat someone to the door since my town is technologically uneducated. Most phones I see are galaxy or iPhone. Hardly any HTC ones and one one person with a nexus 5 in the whole year I've owned this thing.
[Nexus 6  General] Illrigger:
When I got my N5 last January the store could not keep the phone in stock, so it probably depends on where you are and what kinds of people are in the area.

That being said, at the time the N5 was the cheapest decent phone on T-Mo, so that was one of the big reasons for the demand. With the N6 being so expensive, and there being so many decent low-cost phones on the market, that market segment obviously won't be going after it this time.
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
I can confirm this as well. I had to travel to Philadelphia just to have a chance of finding a Nexus 4 in stock at a T-Mobile, this was in December as well, considering that the hype would have died down since release.

At the time T-Mobile were directing stock of Nexus devices to stores that were in high sale areas since they were able to get the stock out faster (this was back when they were starting to sell them). That said once stock normalized it became widely available through all stores soon enough (My store did not get the N4 until a month after I picked mine up from Philadelphia).

I am still planning on camping in front of my local stores on the release day early morning as if it was Black Friday waiting to get my hands on this thing. The local stores are also in a High Sale areas and ran out of Nexus Stock within the first day or so of release. Like Hell I will be missing my chance at getting it on launch!
[Nexus 6  General] jcarlm:
Bummer. I get to the store and the lady I talked to was not there. The two guys that were there said they did not have the phone there. So I did not get the handle one.
[Nexus 6  General] Joshnor713:
Why didn't you just call? lol
[Nexus 6  General] jcarlm:
On my previous post I stated that I called and they told me that they had it.
[Nexus 6  General] Joshnor713:
Oh...what a bunch of freakin liars
[Nexus 6  General] jcarlm:
Yeah I wasn't too happy about it. I I loaded up my 2 year old and 4 year old in the car and drove about 20 minutes there. They did tell me to call them Monday and they should have it Monday or Tuesday.
[Nexus 6  General] Joshnor713:
Holy crap, that's dedication. I would've called out the person that told me that, and punched him the face if needed.
[Nexus 6  General] Mele:
If the Nexus 6 is truly unlocked and untouched by T-Mobile then there might be some network issues as it appears this device doe not have the 1700/2100mhz frequencies that T-Mobile uses.
[Nexus 6  General] PDP///M:
It will work just fine on tmobile usa. Wcdma band 4 and lte band 4 are both are on 1700/2100 mhz
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
Also it has support for the upcoming Band 12 LTE as well. This Nexus has EVERYTHING ready for T-Mobile, present and future!
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
Here is something slightly interesting! Nexus 6 How to Use documents: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-17527
[Nexus 6  General] Knight-Rider:
Nice find, so that just means they probably will have it by the 12th.
[Nexus 6  General] RXWatcher:
It says to take the back cover off to check for water damage..so either they are wrong or it has a removable back.
[Nexus 6  General] Donjuanal:
Under Battery:

Insert / remove battery

This is a uni-body device with an internal battery that cannot be removed.

If you need to remove and re-insert the battery to reset the device, follow these steps:

Press and hold the Power key for 10-15 seconds.

Wait as the device restarts.
[Nexus 6  General] w4itg:
What I can't believe is that a $hi++y carrier like T-Mobile gets it before the #1 carrier Verizon. Before I get bashed for saying that about T-Mobile, it's my opinion because as a truck driver I could never go with them because of their lousy LTE coverage.
[Nexus 6  General] Airtioteclint:
That just means that verizon isn't #1.
[Nexus 6  General] w4itg:
Oh yeah how can you back that statement up? REALLY?
[Nexus 6  General] Ironkidz:
So has anyone actually seen one of the T-Mobile devices? I want to know if it has branding logos on it.
[Nexus 6  General] sotorious:
Anyone have an actual date on when the phone is going to be released released or are they still taking pre orders sorry been a little out of the loop. Or is it released already?
[Nexus 6  General] phekno:
Why are you in a thread titled "Try out the Nexus 6 a few days before it's released at T-Mobile"? Are you stupid?
[Nexus 6  General] w4itg:
No I'm not. Beings that there's no Verizon specific thread for the device is why I'm here making comments. You must live in a major city and are a T-Mobile fan boy? Why else would you take offense to my comment. Either way I don't have to justify myself to you. :p
[Nexus 6  General] djkinetic:
Verizon is number 1 in customer base and raw coverage area, but they are the worst carrier in regards to consumer friendly practices, I will never ever use them again. ATT isnt much better but at least they dont go out of their way to screw consumers as much as VZW. If Tmo had better service in my home I'd use them.
[Nexus 6  General] hasbrobot:
Sigh, here we go...

posted while using my note 3
[Nexus 6  General] phekno:
My fault; I fed the trolls. I apologize.

/s
[Nexus 6  General] VTEChump:
Rut roh.

https://plus.google.com/+T-Mobile/posts/X3tXvDAemCz
[Nexus 6  General] w4itg:
I've been with VZW for over 10 years because I got tired of being dropped all the time with AT&T around the time they went GSM. I've never had a problem with them, costumer service has always been excellent whether online, on the phone, or in the store. I guess I'm just one of the lucky ones.

As far as price it really doesn't matter to me how expensive they are or get, I'll gladly pay whatever they ask to have LTE coverage 99% of the places I travel and sometimes it's like the middle if nowhere in PA or where ever. I bet I couldn't say the same thing or you for that matter about T-Mobile.

I'm an over the road truck driver so I don't just stay in heavily populated areas.
[Nexus 6  General] hotleadsingerguy:
I'd have to agree with this. I've had both services for long periods of time, and truthfully the service of both was about the same. Verizon had way better LTE service out in the country (I have a few friends that live out there, and it sucks going out there with AT&T), but at random places in the city their service sucks horribly. The place we go to get wings always shows full bars (there's a tower a black and a half away), but I get no data connectivity at all. It just doesn't work.

That being said...I'll deal with AT&T's inferior cell coverage/service if I don't have to deal with Verizon's customer service department or stores ever again. If Apple Geniuses are rude elitists, Verizon store employees are the Pharaohs of ancient Egypt. They don't help you at all and they almost expect you to come in praising them for their amazing company and virtues. Every experience I've ever had with Verizon has been in the rankings for the worst in my life. There's a Verizon right down the street from where I work, and there were times I'd drop by to buy phones or devices. Not one time did I ever go in, buy it, and leave. They tried lying to me by telling me I had to buy a separate line, tried forcing me into a contract by saying I "[couldn't keep my existing plan with a new smartphone]" and more...all because I had an unlimited data plan that they forced on me in the first place. It was upgraded to an LTE unlimited plan, by them, and they said "Oh those don't work with modern smartphones".

When I'd catch them at the lie? They wouldn't even apologize...they'd say "Oh we'll give it to you this time", as if an act of grace. They're despicable in the way they treat their customers, and when I told them I wanted to leave they would literally say "Who are you going to go with? There's nobody as good as us, and we know it." (that's not a paraphrase) Because of interactions like that, I hope the FCC screws them all over and literally physically slaps each and every executive at the companies to remind them how they should act.
[Nexus 6  General] PaisanNYC:
Because Verizon is getting it last :)
[Nexus 6  General] w4itg:
That's rather unfortunate. I'd be as angry as you if they pulled that stuff on me. I have had no such problems. As a matter of fact when I got my note 3 the customer service rep bent over backwards making sure I kept my unlimited data when I purchased it on the edge plan on another dummy phone line I had and she switched it to my main line. I have nothing but for praise for all aspects of Verizon.

Yours is not the only case I've heard of Verizon trying to screw some one over so nothing surprises me. I guess I've been super lucky.

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That still doesn't prove that Verizon isn't the #1 carrier in the country. What just because they're getting the phone last? Come on get real dude!!!!!!!!
[Nexus 6  General] kirdroid:
They may be #1 and yes I'm in a major city so I have the choice to use T-Mobile. I'm happy that I'm not forced to chose Verizon who craps every phone with bloat and ugly Verizon tramp stamp. More over CDMA where I can't just buy phones like one plus one and other to use. Glad I stay in an area where I can use a gsm network like T-Mobile.
[Nexus 6  General] Domini384:
Its #1 in cell coverage but awful at everything else. For traveling i would agree with you, but for living in cities Tmobile is the way to go
[Nexus 6  General] w4itg:
I won't disagree with you guys there. T-Mobile is the way to go if you live in a city.
[Nexus 6  General] PaisanNYC:
I was just joking, hence the smiley I had. Sometimes we just need a little humor in life. It's just a phone :D
[Nexus 6  General] hello00:
i tried out the demo where my friends work at tmobile and the things i noticed are

the phone feels great, it is heavy but if u dont mind the thickness in the middle then u wouldn't have a problem liking it, as for me im not a big fan of the design

the phone is as fast as lighting, doesn't lag at ALL

speakers are loud and clear, nothing like htcs boomsound..i compared it with the ip6, note 4 and the g3 and i think the g3 sounds louder due to its 1watt speakers

the display is about the same as the moto x, less sharper and vibrant than the note 4

the camera is good, couldnt tell the difference, the front camera isn't good

in all honestly..if i were to choose between the ip6, note 4, turbo, and the n6, i personally would choose the note 4 despite the fact that i hate touchwiz
[Nexus 6  General] speedtriple675:
Just called my local tmobile store (north al) and they said the launch was pushed back to next wednesday the 19th and would not have anything until then.
[Nexus 6  General] fvicente:
I went and played with the phone today at my T-Mobile store. It felt great; coming from a note 3 the size wasn't an issue. It feels FAST. The camera takes instant shots like the iPhone. The only dealbreaker is the screen. Even cranked up to max brightness it had a yellowish tinge compared to my year old note 3. Saturation pales compared to the iPhone 6+ and G3 they had at the store and my old note 3. Brightness want close either. Shame, because I'm dying for a clean android experience without locked boot loaders.
[Nexus 6  General] toyfreak:
I'm in San Francisco on business and took a walk to try out the Nexus 6. I had to call three T-Mo stores to find a demo unit. When I got there they said they didn't have one until I reminded them I was the person who called ahead. It wasn't out on display; one of the employees was carrying it around. He was really cool about letting me spend a few minutes with it.

This phone feels big but rock solid. The overwhelming impression was one of smoothness. The OS is just so amazingly smooth and fast and the build quality is just so premium it's hard to describe. I couldn't do any side by side comparisons (display, etc). AT&T was practically next door so I dropped in to look at the Note 4. I've owned all Notes up to and including the Note 3 before getting the Nexus 5. I miss the S-pen at times but not enough to go back to TouchWiz. Even the Note 4 lagged when swiping pages in the app drawer and the carrier bloat is onerous. Plus the Note 4's build quality didn't impress me much. The shiny chamfered bezel edges will show every tiny nick and scrape. Looking into the S-Pen silo, the bezel looked like moralized plastic to me, not aluminum. The phone felt flimsy to me.

Eagerly awaiting my 64 GB Midnight Blue which arrives Wednesday the 19th.
[Nexus 6  General] l_stevens:
I find this screen information about the screen, coming from a user using a production phone, to be very depressing.
[Nexus 6  General] spartanm99:
Not shocked but absolutely disappointed beyond belief that Google would release such an expensive phone and call it premium despite using a poor quality screen.

Worse than the Note 3? What a joke. Even when the Note 3 was new I thought it had a terrible screen so a NEW phone with a worse screen than the Note 3, for (now) double the price? Google must be kidding.

1080P NEW IPS panel designed specifically for the Nexus 6 would've produced better results.
[Nexus 6  General] Duffmantp:
Just a fyi. T-Mobile 700mhz B12 went live in Riverhead, NY. I would like anyone to report back the performance of it. Sadly I have ATT so I cant test this myself. 4 more scheduled to happen this year in Suffolk County.
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
I had a lot of fun using the demo unit!
[Nexus 6  General] 20degrees:
Look at the guy in the background. :D
[Nexus 6  General] Cheater912:
Had anybody tried the T-Mobile version on Sprint yet?
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
I used it in Katy, tx. I found the screen nice, better than my nexus 5. The camera was much better and took clear, fast photos. The OS is smoking fast. No lags. I always use black wallpapers, and believe the multi color papers it comes with gave the display a slightly washed out look. I also got it right out of the box. The build quality is awesome. Sound is great. Its not as large as you think, it fit my hands just fine. I'm leaning to getting it.