yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] armyofsquirrels:
Thanks I think it's the same thread I've been looking at as well. I noticed the mention of AICP, I think I saw a thread on that rom too, however I don't know if that's safe for my bootloader as well =(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
If you're interested in flashing ROMs there are a couple of ROMS in this thread for the Note 4...http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/development
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Those ROMS are safe for your bootloader, they may not be completely stable though....in other words you may not have data on boot or something maybe not be just write, depending on your phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] armyofsquirrels:
Thank you. Is Deoxed, the same as debloated? I've only dealt with safe strap on the S4, I used hyperdrive a lot.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
No, Deodexed is not the same as debloated. Debloated refers to the removal of 3rd Party Apps and Carrier Apps that the carriers put on phones they sell. Usually apps that you will probably never use and only takes up resources.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] armyofsquirrels:
I knew the debloated part, I hate bloatware and even this DE has it... So annoying. Im not sure what Deodexed is than.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Google will give you the answer :o
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] armyofsquirrels:
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/what-is-odex-and-deodex-in-android-complete-guide/

I'll share my knowledge with anyone else wondering on this thread lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Good for you. Wasn't trying to be a smart ass, just knew you'd find a more technically correct and understandable answer from searching than I could give in less than 1000 words LOL.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] armyofsquirrels:
Haha thanks I didn't feel like trolling today plus you've been very helpful with my other 1000 questions so thank you.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
No problem, glad to help. You're smart to be cautious about flashing/installing anything on your Note without understanding exactly what you're doing. There have been more than a few lock their bootloaders because they didn't read and understand what they were doing. Rule of thumb...never take an OTA update/upgrade on your Developer Edition and never flash "firmware" unless the developer/poster is someone you know and trust and tells you it is safe for Developer Edition phones.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] armyofsquirrels:
Do the DE get OTA updates? If so do you think Verizon will force it locked like they did the S4? I got mine to late so I was stuck locked and hated it... Safestrap was nice but I felt so locked out from the community haha. I really want to jump on one of the daily update ones.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Samsung/Verizon have never, never released an update to their Developer Edition phones. With TWRP installed and rooted even IFyou get notified of an update and IF it gets downloaded it will fail during install so you don't have to worry about getting your bootloader locked. The problem comes when users get the "update" from a forum or some other means, flashing it, and then discovering that the update was for retail phones and consequently locked their bootloader.

As far as a ROM with daily updates...CM is the only one I am familiar with and I'm not sure CM is stable on the Note 4 yet...you can check the thread in this forum out for more info.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] armyofsquirrels:
Gotcha yea that's why I've been asking a million questions on how to do what and what is safe lol. I have a backup and I backed up my aboot (sent it in an email to myself too for safe keeping three copies phone, computer, gmail)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
If you want to keep all the functionality of your SPen it's better to use a TW rom like Jasmine or Morom. The Galaxy S series phones don't have it so CM or AOSP or others are ok. As far as I know TW roms are the only ones that don't break the SPen. I think MultiWindow gets broken too.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Vlip3:
Just got my DE today; trying to follow the directions in the OP but Odin is not recognizing my phone. I've installed the latest drivers and installed Odin 3.10. I've waited over 5 minutes but it still does not recognize it. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
Is USB debugging on? In download mode? Have you rebooted Computer? (What Windows version are you using?) Are you using a USB 2 port? Are you using stock data cable?

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kernel-ed/ TWRP 2.8.6.0.trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Vlip3:
Using Windows 7 64 bit, USB 2 port with stock data cable, computer rebooted but not sure USB Debugging is on. Going to check that now - um, I can't find it. May you point out where it is located on this phone?

BTW, the instruction say to use the volume-down + Menu keys but I'm not sure which is the menu key on this phone (on the note 3 it was to the left of the oval button on the face of the phone but on this phone, that is the recent apps button). I get into download mode by pressing volume-down + power.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
Since we're on the subject, Do yall run Odin as administrator?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
USB Debugging is in Developers Options in Phone Settings menu. If no Developers Options is present you have to enable it. Settings/About Phone/and tap Build Number about eight times....that will enable Developers Options.

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kernel-ed/ TWRP 2.8.6.0.trltevzw

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You to are on 7 you probably have to....did my Note 4 on my old XP machine. Haven't done any Odin on my new Windows 7 machine.

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kernel-ed/ TWRP 2.8.6.0.trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Vlip3:
Thanks!! I remember that now from my Note 3 - can't believe I forgot. Is there a minimum battery percentage required to go into download mode? My batter is now down to 66% and I can't get it into download mode. I hold down the volume-down + power buttons but it just keeps cycling the splash screen and never goes into download mode. I've done this half a dozen times or more in the last 2 hours but now, I can't seem to get it.

Okay, maybe I was trying to go into download mode too quickly after shutting down. I let it sit for a couple of minutes, and now I was able to get it into download mode. But! Odin still does not recognize it so something still is not right. BTW, if I select "Normal Boot" from the menu, when the phone reboots, then Odin sees it.

I just tried Power Off from the menu and when the phone shuts down Odin then recognizes it! And then as soon as I press volume-down + power, Odin says: "Removed"! What can be going on?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Have you enabled Developer Options on your phone and selected USB Debugging?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
To enter download mode I'm pretty sure you have to be powered off, then hold down volume down, home and power key simultaneously.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Vlip3:
Thank you very much! I was not in download mode, that's why it was not working! Volume-down + power button gets into "Manage Boot Mode".
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Yep
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Vlip3:
So, I just got home and was able to get my phone into download mode and Odin recognized it. I selected the tar file I downloaded from the link ("openrecovery-twrp-2.8.5.0-trltevzw.img.tar") and hit start. Everything went as expected and I got a green "PASS". When the phone rebooted, the splash screen says "custom". I shut down the phone, pressed Volume-Down + Menu + Power button and it goes back into download mode! the custom recovery does not launch! What did I do wrong now? Please help! I've never had this much trouble!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
To get into recovery you press volumne up, home, and power keys.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
There is a newer TWRP....2.8.6.0

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kernel-ed/ TWRP 2.8.6.0.trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jetsman:
So just doing some reading on this note 4. Just a couple of things. First I see the cf auto root method will work for sm-910v model phone in which that's what model my phone is. Second everything I've read says have to be developer model for it to work. So how can you tell the difference. My phone says the say model number that the auto root method. Just trying to make sure that I don't mess something up. My phone is for verizon
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
If you purchased a DevEd from Samsung's web site for +$700 it could be a Developer Edition

https://mobile.samsung.com/accessories/addtocart.do?productid=ET-N910VMKEVZW

If it came in a box, and is engraved "Developer Device" it could be a DevEd

If the phone is engraved "Developer Device" under the battery it could be a DevEd

If the Odin download screen has "Mode: Developer" It is definitely an unlocked DevEd device.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jetsman:
Ok yeah it doesn't have any of the those. Thank you
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] downhillvinnie:
Just got my DE today, it has 5.0.1 installed on it, will this procedure still work? Also, which version TWRP do you download? I downloaded all and could not find a TAR file in any of them
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
Yeah it works. You download the one with the .tar file extension. Or this is the latest version. Enable "USB Debugging" in "Developer Options" before you flash.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] downhillvinnie:
And it works on 5.0.1 Lollipop on the phone? TWRP works normally too? Sorry, just want to make sure so I dont brick a 700 dollar phone LOL
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
Yes. That's how I did mine.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] downhillvinnie:
Thanks so much....have you tried the Xposed flash and does it work
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
I flashed it and themed my status bar with Gravity Box. They say Wanam doesn't. I've never been an extensive user of Xposed. They say some other stuff works.

I'm using the Morom rom. My dialers, notification panel and power toggles are all themed. The developer of this rom stays on top of things and comes up with new updates often. I'm also using the Kexec MultiSystem Kernel. I'm not doing MultiSystem right now but I've done a few kernel tweaks. I'm not power mad or anything but I like to do a little optimization. I'm really happy with my setup.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] downhillvinnie:
Thanks again, I sent you a PM about this...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] waco2hot33:
When did you order your DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
29 Oct 2014. I got one out of first shipment from Samsung.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] waco2hot33:
Wow OK mines just arrived on Monday needed root that bad
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] neva4self:
This may sound like the super noob question but when I'm flashing TWRP, what is the difference between the .img file, .tar file and the .zip file which seems to contain a file called recovery.img? I'm only asking because when I go to the TWRP page they have all three. Is the .tar file the file I MUST flash from Odin? It seems like the most current version only comes in an .img file on this site:

https://dl.twrp.me/trltevzw/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
You have to use the latest .tar version. That's what works with Odin. It won't recognize the others.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] neva4self:
Ok thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Yes, this method still works on the Developer Edition Note 4. If you have a retail version it will not work. You cannot install a custom recovery or root a retail version of the Note 4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] richcsst:
Actually, this no longer works on the developer edition with the latest 5.1.1 (dated Jan 20, 2016) update. I'm open for ideas:

ODIN 3.10.7 output:

<ID:0/004> Added!!

<ID:0/004> Odin engine v(ID:3.1100)..

<ID:0/004> File analysis..

<ID:0/004> SetupConnection..

<ID:0/004> Initialzation..

<ID:0/004> Get PIT for mapping..

<ID:0/004> Firmware update start..

<ID:0/004> SingleDownload.

<ID:0/004> recovery.img

<ID:0/004> NAND Write Start!!

<ID:0/004> FAIL! (Auth)

<ID:0/004>

<ID:0/004> Complete(Write) operation failed.

<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)​

The phone's download screen reads:

ODIN MODE: (HIGH SPEED)

PRODUCT NAME: SM-N910V

CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official

SYSTEM STATUS: Official

REACTIVATION LOCK: OFF

QUALCOMM SECUREBOOT: ENABLE (CSM)

AP SWREV: S1, T2, R1, R2, P1

SECURE DOWNLOAD: ENABLE

UDC START

SCURE CHECK FAIL: recovery​
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
The above phone is retail.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
You must have changed your bootloader and lost your Developer Mode status. Here's a picture of my Download screen.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bball15guy:
I am an admitted newbie so my apologies for missing what is probably obvious. I have a Galaxy Note 4 Dev Edition and I have root. What I would like to do is get rid of all the Verizon bloat that is still on the phone as well as get SMS to work with my regional carrier and I can't edit the SMS settings. So once I have root, how do I "wipe" the phone and install a clean OS?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] cougar214:
Hey guys. A friend of mine has the Verizon N4 and he want's it unlocked and flashed out with a new Rom. I'm not familiar with the Verizon variant so I am clueless as to the process. I am reading up and watching tutorials on this subject but I have a couple questions. First, is it safe to say when you say "developer edition", you mean turning it into a developer edition with this process or is there a stock factory version of this phone that was released as a developer edition? second, once the phone is unlocked and rooted, can you flash any rom you like to it or are you limited to certain roms with specific basebands and such? And lastly, what should you NOT do once you have the phone setup? Such as flash Android 6.0.1 or something like that.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zdanman:
This

DOES NOT WORK

now with my Note 4 Verizon Developers Edition...

[IMG="Screenshot of Odin 3.10.6 failure of TWRP install"]http://acedev.net/acedev/files/hostimg/twrpfail.png[/IMG]

Of course this is AFTER I installed the latest Android 6.0 Marshmallow firmware... I am currently trying to research this.

You can follow the work around here:

https://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/general/please-help-root-install-twrp-t3677966

Any help appreciated!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] EMSpilot:
SecSettings

I will upload on Sunday or Monday after I have tested.

Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] maxyoda:
Just received the Developer Edition Note 4 via UPS! Use T-Mobile ROMS?

I just rooted and installed TWRP on the Dev Edition Note 4. All went smoothly.

Back in the day, it was possible to use T-Mobile ROMS on the Verizon Developer Edition phones (at least for the S4 and S5 phones). Any thoughts on trying that here? I just received the Verizon Developer Edition Note 4. I am willing to give it a go...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpmcnown:
Do we have a backup of the stock Developer Edition recovery partition yet? Is there a way we can effectively enable usb debugging, and somehow pull via adb all the individual partitions on the phone? Do we need root before that?

-Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
All reports are that the stock recovery is the same on the DE and consumer edition. CF autoroot for the DE uses the consumer recovery I .believe
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Menchelke:
Rooted with recovery within hour of having my device. Thanks were given.

Of course for a nub like me. I forgot how to get into download mode and had to relook that up.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] neva4self:
Thanks. Are you going to start a new thread with the step by step once your full method is completed successfully?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
[ trltevzw Note 4 Developer Edition TWRP TestVersion ]

bigbiff just answered me in his tmo thread...

http://xdaforums.com/show...php?p=56379991

If we can get him stock recovery he will build TWRP specifically for us..

==============

Test Version....UPDATE

===============

I just flashed the "test version" made specifically for our VZW Note 4 (trltevzw Note 4 Developer Edition TWRP Test) by bigbiff after I pointed him to a posting of our "stock recovery". The test version flashed fine, I tested adb command access and performed a factory reset. I am now making my first full STOCK backup. I will be supplying bigbiff with any info he requests.....he will probably be posting an "official" version for our VZW Note 4s soon. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] texasez:
Thanks for your efforts in helping the Note 4 DE.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urmcgwy:
Did anyone ever get back to you about testing your apk changes? I wouldn't mind giving it a try

Sent from my unlocked and rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 4 DE!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
Now testing TWRP trltevzw 2.8.1.1 ....bigbiff should be releasing soon...

UPDATE: RELEASED link below...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=56467870

Sent from my SM-N910V / Verizon Note 2 DE / Rooted / TWRP trltevzw 2.8.1.1
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] cuseme:
No like your kind
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Hilfey:
Looking forward to seeing this. Hope your testing went well.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
Slightly off-topic, does anyone have another link to ODIN 3.09? The link in the OP is down for me, and I didn't see another looking through the thread. Sorry if I missed it somewhere!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpmcnown:
Here's ODIN 3.09 on my Google Drive

HERE is a link to the latest drivers install, the link in the OP didn't take me to where I needed

or HERE direct from Samsung
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] commissionerg:
Nevermind
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
I installed the verizon twrp 2.8 tar went fine everything passed.. When the phone boots i get the pad unlock, but how do i get into TWRP?

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got it To boot into recovery: phone off, then press home, volume up and on/off all at once.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wy1d:
Where is the stock recovery posted?

Edit: Found it here: http://d-h.st/yE8
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Boss428man:
Hi,

So I'm ready to open up my Developer Edition. I was waiting to make sure the phone was working correctly because my box came in in rough shape but all seems to be ok.

So in the interim I've been installing applications and kinda want my new rooted / recovery to be as clean as possible. I am wondering once I flash the team win recovery should I run a backup, then factory reset and run a backup again so that I can have a clean starting rom backup then root and backup once more? Whats the process?

Also Step 6:

6. Click "Start" to flash openrecovery-twrp-2.8.1.1-trltetmo.img.tar here:http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/201 , or the TWRP .tar file provided by bigbiff here : http://www.techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/trltevzw

Is one better then another?

Thanks JPCalhoun
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
As a tester of the VZW version I suggest using the trltevzw TWRP... it is official and had all of the VZW asserts etc.. I have never used anything but that version. It is always good to have both a "clean" version of a rooted backup and a stock backup. I also run a backup of the phone when I get it sey up the way I like it. I have had to do a full stock rooted restore....everything went fine. Good luck.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Regarding backups, I try do have 3 backups: 1) a backup of the stock ROM (no root and no user apps) 2) a backup of stock ROM rooted (no user apps) and 3) a backup of the ROM and apps currently on the phone (in our case it would be the stock ROM, rooted minus whatever apps/files I have deleted). I then create a Titanium Backup of my downloaded apps as a separate .zip file. That way I have a choice to restore either ROM backup and then flash the apps .zip separately in recovery. But to be honest, it is usually better to restore a backup and do a fresh install of your user apps. If I have time that is usually what I do. Some of the paid apps don't flash from Titanium very well, that applies to some widgets also.

I have to agree with manbat on which version of TWRP, I think the "Verizon" version is your best bet in the long run.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Boss428man:
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

For a clean backup can that be done after flashing the recovery or should i rest it before?

Second is the BIGBIFF the Verizon recovery your referring too? This one here:

"http://www.techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/trltevzw"
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
You can't really do a backup until you have flashed recovery. Yes, the bigbiff recovery is the one I referred to as the Verizon one. Flash the recovery. That puts TWRP on your phone. Then, enter recovery (volume up, home button and power) and select Backup. After you have selected Backup you will be given a list of items to include in the Backup. As a minimum I recommend you check system, recovery, EFS and data.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Boss428man:
Worked awesome. I have to say I was expecting something to go wrong its very different coming from an S3 with a locked boot loader and unlocking that to a phone it just works the right way. Only took about 5 minutes including all the backups! Thanks a million and I look forward to our future ventures with the Note 4 Dev!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Glad everything worked for you. Now, lets hope we can get to Lollipop 5.xx on our DEs.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Any advantage/disadvantage to going through the bootloader unlock and root process before activating the device?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
Good question I almost always set my phones up on WiFi before I put the Sim in. The boot loader comes unlocked so all you are doing is installing twrp first so you can make a stock unrooted backup which I'm guessing you can use to get future OTAs. Then root so you can play. Having your boot loader unlocked from the get go is a big plus.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Gotcha...I wasn't sure if the bootloader came unlocked or just was unlockable, good to know. I think I will follow your lead and set up on wifi and then do my backups (stock unrooted first and then stock rooted). Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
This might sound silly! But in the OP in the instructions step 6 has two options of TWRP tar file. I'm on Verizon developer edition. When I click on Verizon version the second option.. It takes me to a page and there are 3 different files to download. I don't mean to sound like a total noob but I would hate to brick my phone over something small like this....Which tar file do I download? I'm pretty sure its openrecovery-twrp-2.8.1.1-trltevzw.img.tar just making sure?

Thanks in advance
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
========

Use the tar in Odin...zip is for flashing in TWRP ...updating from the test version of TWRP that was sent to a few of us (me for one). The img file is for use with flashify, etc. Use the Verizon version....I was one of the original testers and have never used any other version.

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Rooted / TWRP 2.8.1.1 trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
Is there a stock image or tar around anywhere. Looking at the downloads about 46 people used flashify. I got stuck in twrp one time on my M8 using flasify.