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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derrtydee:
in case you haven't, let me share my experience:

as with most of us, i've done my best to handle my new phone with care, especially since i was one of the many that preordered the same weekend preorders were opened up. i have had the phone since launch day, i have a variety of cases for it, but not the most optimal case of course. (i'm a woman, it's hard to find fashionable protection.) i learned early on with the Note 2 and the Note 3 that the digitizers can be broken if the phone is dropped at just the right angle, so i thankfully have everything already backed up with Verizon Cloud, (call logs) SMS Backup/Restore, (texts/MMS) Helium, (game data) and Google+ (photos-- on low resolution, storage is unlimited.) today while digging in my purse, my phone fell out from about 3 feet up. landed face down on the hard tile of the womens' restroom. didn't think anything of it, because it was such a low height, just picked my phone up, plopped it back in my purse, finished shopping. (like a woman.)

when i went to check the time, i noticed the phone didn't respond. instantly i thought, "maybe i just need to power it back on, since it fell." held the power button down, 3 seconds, 5 seconds, 8 seconds, nothing. did a battery pull, left it out for about 5 minutes, replaced. nothing.

now, had i not had everything already backed up, i might have had a minor melt down, but i still had my S5 on me (literally, it was in my purse) swapped the SIM, and then cried on the inside. i put the phone on my car charger (generic model) and there was still no response, so i thought about if i should have my computer friend fix it or if I should go ahead and try my luck with insurance, with it being less than 30 days i hoped that maybe something warranty wise would still apply.

got home, put the phone on the charger. not that it needed it, but figured, nothing else could be done. did a few things around the house, then came back about 15 minutes later and saw that the screen had lit up and the phone was charging. lo and behold, i hit the power button, and it booted back up. insert praise dance here.

maybe Samsung finally did learn their lesson with the digitizers being so easily broken in the Note series. one thing that sold me on the Note 4 was the drop tests that were performed, which gave me (some) belief that i wouldn't have to deal with this problem. (link here for the drop test: http://youtu.be/Jj3Jy5ufhaY)

but in case anyone was wondering, it looks like it will survive a drop or two. and i have since thrown my Spigen case on there cause a chick will take no further chances going forward. (should, God forbid, the worst happen, i will update this post.)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
No I personally hadn't dropped my phone yet, and hopefully I never will. I generally don't use protective cases on my phones, but I think I will invest in one once I can find a good aftermarket case that is made for the Verizon variant. Definitely don't want any scratches on this beauty
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derrtydee:
yeah, i've got one small unnoticeable knick in the metal edge up by the IR blaster. the initial case i chose left the top and bottom edge of the phone exposed (easier to handle) but i've definitely learned my lesson.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AngelsPunishment:
I beat the hell out of my note 2 for two years without a case or screen protector. Screen has one deep scratch about half an inch long and the corner chrome plastic is kinda mangled but I never cracked or broke the screen. Running my note 4 the same way.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nabbed:
I think that it's a matter of luck when you drop a phone. I've dropped two.

First one was a Sprint Epic Touch (galaxy s2, 4.5" version), it fell out of my jacket inside pockets right onto a tile floor. It made an spectacular sound, bounced a few times, and lost a back plate and a battery. Nothing else was even remotely damaged.

The second one was me bending trying to get some air in my car's tires, and phone slipped out of my jacket pocket (again). It landed hardly on pavement, but suffered only a minor scratch on the edge.

I wasn't even worried at the time - Galaxy S3 always felt like it was built like a tank, unlike S4 which I also owned.

This new Note4 feels durable in the hand, but the sheer size of the screen screams "fragile." That's "Fra-gee-lee" for uninitiated.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fillyo:
Nothing yet, and I am going naked, Neo Hybrid is reasonably thin, but it feels so much better without a case.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 4 on Verizon unlimited!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gcforreal:
I love the feel of the n4 without a case but I learned my lesson of going case less when I dropped my note 3 from a very low height and got a surface Crack that spread over the next few days. I take it out the case at night when I'm in but when I'm out this baby is covered with a screen this large it will probably shatter pretty easy. To each his own though
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctor-cool:
YES! Before the DE came out, I was stripping insulation off a 12 gauge wire........

with my White Note 4 in my shirt pocket. When the insulation suddenly gave with a snap. The Note 4 jumped up out of my shirt pocket about 5 foot high and landed on the left front bottom corner on concrete then flipped over on it's glass screen face down. I was afraid to pick it up. As far as I can tell not a scratch on the screen but the Aluminum has a dent where it meets the glass. That slight gap may have saved the screen.

I am coming from the Note 2 and I had all my work shirts modified to fit the Note 2 snug. After the accident I have added a Home made Elastic Strap on top to hold the phone in place. I have not been using any case or screen protector because they slow me down and time is money. I got to be quick on the draw.;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] masri1987:
not yet... although i had a close call in the gym today with a 100lb dumbbell... i am not sure how long this is relationship is gonna work out...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
As soon as I read that first sentence, I knew this story wouldn't end well :eek:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BizzLeonDaCouch:
I got an Otterbox Defender case for mine, $44.99 with discount through verizon's website.. Absolutely love it, Otterbox has gotten a lot better over the years, and I've got huge gorilla hands so the extra couple mm doesn't bother me :cyclops:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gcforreal:
Man I have the same case it's awesome .yea I have big hands too lol. Only thing is I ripped the built in screen protector out and replaced it with a normal stick on one. The built in one was horrible and made a loud click every time i tapped it. I have a cheap tempered glass one coming Monday hopefully it fits in the defender.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] golfinglenn:
You people that go caseless are imho tempting fate and then are upset when your $800 phone shatters. I fix people's phones at cost that I know, most of which are iphones. At least those screens are fairly cheap and easy to replace. An Iphone 5S screen is $70 for oem at the local store. I asked about how many galaxy's they repair and the answer was very few. Why I asked, they don't break as easy??? No was the reply, the amoled screen is super expensive. A quick check on ebay......Minimum $170 for a Note 3 screen.

For about $20 you can get a simple thin rubber type case and tempered glass screen protector. You get both drop protection, thin profile, and screen protection. Seems like a no brainer, but if you have the money to replace such and expensive device I guess it's not an issue lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oohoy:
when i went to local verizon store to pick up my note 4, the rep who helped me dropped the phone 3 feets height to the table we were on while unboxing it!!! needless to say, i was unhappy and relieved that no dent or scratch found. that store was the only store that had white note 4 in stock and i wanted to beat the deadline to trade in my old phone for $200, so i still took it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crowmallet:
I droppped mine at the gas station. No damage suffered despite taking a perfect hit in the middle of the screen on the corner of a curb. I had a spigen tough armor case on it to lessen the blow to the edges of the phone once it bounced around on the ground and prevented any chips im sure, but the screen held up great and didn't receive the slightest bit of damage.

edit: this is the case i have. perfect amount of protection for me (SGP11139)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MAWQU14/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] revbones:
I got mine the Thursday they were released. I was using the Spigen Tough Armor case and had the phone in the pocket of my sweatshirt. I squatted down to look in a delivery box and the phone fell out from maybe a foot high - but it landed exactly face down. The s-pen still worked, but it would not respond to my fingers at all.

Fortunately I was able to take it back to Best Buy and they just swapped it for a new replacement. I'm using an Otterbox Defender now until Seidio makes an Active or Dilex case since the Defender adds a good 1/2" or more to the width of the device and has no kickstand despite costing $70 bucks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gcforreal:
The convert Is in development was my favorite note 2 case they never made it for the n3 though. I have a tough armor it's going back the kickstand is a joke, worst I have used on a supposedly high quality case. FYI I have the defender you know the holster can be locked and used as a stand right? ..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] revbones:
Thanks but I stopped carrying my phones on my belt a few years ago so the belt clip just sits in a drawer. I had Otterboxes and others and kept knocking them off my belt and causing them to fall. The final straw was when one fell in a gravel parking lot the same day I bought it and it chipped the screen through the protector. You'd think though for $70 that they'd include a nice metal kickstand on the actual case like Seidio does.

Yeah, I agree that kickstand was a complete joke. Everything else on that Spigen case felt inferior to any other case I've ever used too, but that kickstand was some awfully weak sauce.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gcforreal:
Aw that sucks about the belt clip thing you got me worried I mainly use mine at the gym when I don't want the phone annoyingly bouncing in my pocket. I just can't believe spigen would release something so flimsy and half assed. I caught it on sale for 11 bucks and I still felt let down lol. Honestly the Verizon shell holster combo has the best kickstand in my opinion. Just wished it covered the top and bottom of the phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChickenWingSoup:
Must be Italian! :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Julslol:
Dropped mine this morning onto carpet in my room. Not the softest carpet, but none the less what could happen to it. I picked the phone to my dismay half the screen vertically was divided with a nice gray pixelated rainbow effect on the right half of the screen. I wish I would have got a picture for you guys, but I was raging to hard that the carpet somehow destroyed my note screen. Anyway went to BB and got a new one... No idea how that would of happened at all especially from watching the drop test in OP post. Maybe a defective unit I was at a lost this morning. BB only had white I preferred my black one honestly better.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BizzLeonDaCouch:
I did the same exact thing, every defender case I get, I take the screen protector out. I have an invisi-shield on it, and it works the best!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djquestt:
the second day i had the phone i was on the patio firing up the grill when it slipped out of my jacket pocket i was bending over to turn on the gas and i didnt zip the pocket my phone fell about 3ft to concrete it made a slight chip in the upper right corner of the phone not the face though thank god i think the tempered glass i have on it saved it cant wait for my damn case to get here it shipped on the 31st im walking on egg shells til then cant really relax and enjoy the phone because im scared ****tless of dropping it
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hobox10:
My entire apartment is hard ceramic tile, so I'm really scared. I never dropped my previous phone so I wasn't worried, but I've already dropped this thing twice. Not very big falls though, about 2 feet up but one was right on the glass. Not a scratch on it, which surprised me cause even though it's a short fall the ceramic is like concrete hard. Both times it slipped out of my pocket while sitting, it's hard to get used to a phone this big. But I also blame all the annoying whiners that think if a phone has plastic on it it's somehow "bad quality". Well thanks to those people for making the phone a significant danger compared to the Note 3, because aluminum frames have no shock absorbance compared to plastic frames.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bern612:
Well i guess I'll add mine to the list.. didn't drop it the sp02 sensor wasn't working.spp i took the back cover off to see if it would read it. It didn't. Putting cover back on. Screen cracked. Went into Verizon. Wouldn't even look at phone. Called Verizon gave me samsung number. Long story short. No help at all. So have to get money together to go through assurion.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jianrong:
I drop my note 4 2 days ago. Felt heartpain when i left the shop.

Story: was there remove my old case and sp. Hand over to my hand by the shopowner. Bong. It was a low height. Hit the table. Lucky it didnt bounce down. Check note 4 glass. Is fine. Didnt took closer look at the side top bottom though.

Paste temper glass. This time shopowner carefully place on my palm.

Proceed to put new case. Pay and left the shop.

Though i suspect the left edge of glass seem to lit up abit.

And is it normal to see minor red light out from left of home button?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sprintuser1977:
Off subject but wanna say that it is great seeing more and more women on this site. My wife has 0 interest in tech although for the first time she asked me to show her the phone and let her play with it. I will convert her eventually, I finally got her to switch out her I phone over the summer to Android (S4) and she has been pleased so far
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kartkid:
I got into a bike accident yesterday.

My phone somehow ended up face-down, on the gravel-y sidewalk next to me.

The Spigen Tough Armor I have on my baby didn't scuff or leave any traces on my phone either. My leg's pretty banged up tho :P
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sprintuser1977:
| just can't spend a lot on a case because I know the markup on them. A friend of mine showed me his numbers on his case shop. There were $20 cases that cost him $1 or even 50 cents and I was like damn.

l have on a clear, soft TPU case and it cost me a total of $1, free shipping, no tax. Gotta love ebay and Hong Kong lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hdhuntr:
Dropped from waist level onto tile the other day. Back popped off completely. I thought that was odd. Otherwise no ill effects...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] realdean99:
Dropped cracked screen waiting on asurion back ordered note4 black.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisonxda1:
This is why I never understand cases that leave the tops and bottoms exposed. If I'm rocking a case at bare minimum it's covering everything.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sprintuser1977:
Just curious, what did they say that the turn around time would be ?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisonxda1:
Yes but those cases are just passable. Sure I got a tpu case before I even got the phone but this incipio case is 20 times better and no issue with the mic holes. I love the feel and protection it offers while being cheaper than otterboxes. And the phone doesn't feel like it's about to slip out of my hand.

I agree that this incipio case cost maybe $3 to make but for me cases are very personal. I could easier read one persons glowing review but when I get the case in hand and I don't like it it's money wasted.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sprintuser1977:
Oh I agree. A good looking and feeling case is always nice and I will get one.

The Tpu I got is simply a temporary thing and I ordered it because the Note 4 was new and I wanted to wait until several cases were available to compare and decide.

It actually arrived a few days before I bought the phone and for a buck, not bad lol.

I do have a limit though. l have seen cases that people will pay $80 or more for. l just couldn't do that and if I did the case better cook for me or something
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] realdean99:
No time frame just waiting on an email.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derrtydee:
OP here. delightfully, the phone dropped again, even WITH the Spigen capsule case on there, from only about 3 feet up. same thing, fell out of my purse again. note to self, clean purse out of excess items. this time the notification light flashed continually, but i could tell that the phone was done for as it disconnected from my Gear 2. insert sad face. i tried the same trick as before, battery pull, plugged it into the charger, and it's been over two hours with no response. on hold with Verizon right now who is waiting for a Samsung rep to get back with them to get an exchange out for it. it's sounding like it's covered under warranty, though i do have insurance. i'll be honest, i didn't exactly disclose that the phone dropped. but in my defense, they didn't ask. :P and if they do, i'll kindly refer them to the drop test video. will update once i'm off hold and have an ETA for shipping arrival.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] derrtydee:
after almost 45 minutes of being on hold, i got taken care of. i have to admit, in my few years of being a Verizon customer, this was the first time that i've ever had a good experience with them, outside of the hold time. the good thing is that because my phone is so new, they didn't have to go through my insurance, i get to box everything up for the existing phone, walk into a VZW store tomorrow and swap it out for a new one. he also knocked $20.00 off my bill too, AND i even told him about how the phone fell out of my purse. he said as long as there weren't any cracks, it was good to go with an even exchange because it's still within the window of time for that to happen. Yay me!

however, if i DIDN'T go with that route, then it would have been 2 day shipping, shipping out on friday and delivered on tuesday (most likely.) 2 day shipping is also signature upon arrival. here's the kicker to that-- because i bought the phone at full retail price, if we were to do an even exchange/swap, they would have had to bill me AGAIN, at FULL retail price, then refund me once they received the defective device. as you can see, i was obviously happier with going into a VZW store to do a swap that way. hopefully my nearest store has Note 4's in stock so i can get the phone same day, otherwise the tech did say that the store could order it, and it would be no extra cost to me.

hope my experience helps somebody out there.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] honestabe:
so i got my hands on this.. can i flash it to my hermes device?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jokinawa:
Probably not. It probably the Universal ROM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] honestabe:
how can i tell what device its for.. ?? says the platform is windows ce and its windows mobile 6 beta
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] honestabe:
is there a way i can find out what device it is for??
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] scorpio16v:
Hi

I think, if this is xbow for hermes, the Mods will close the thread and delete your post. Like they did it sometimes before.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] dutty:
close thread AND delete post? :)

well i never saw this happening.. requesting a rom is a different issue.. everybody would like to have a dump of a wm6 rom (yes even the mods)

so what you're saying is not true, they would try to help to get it dudmped...

but i seriously doubt that this is a wm6 rom
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] honestabe:
how exactly should i prove this.. i have the file right infront of me .. 58.2mb... it has all the data such as the romupgradeut.ext ui.dll ruu.dll nk.nbf ruu.conf getdecicedada.exe.. ect ect.. where and what should i do with this?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] HerrVorragend:
Hello I've found the file too... but the updater show an universal when i start it.... is there any possibility to get it run on the hermes or can I delete it... I've already seen videos showing crossbow on the hermes...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] honestabe:
yeh when i start it i def. dont see a hermes,, is this the universal rom?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] vijay555:
HonestAbe: why not try decompiling the rom with mamaich's romtools?

Once you've done that check out the contents of the rom - you should be able to tell if the resources are in VGA format or QVGA format and identify it that way at least - although if you look at the rom header that will also give you the same info easier.

Worst case, PM me or one of the other moderators, I suggest Pof, and we'll have a look at the rom.

For now, can you just list the name of the file(s) you've got, with file sizes? Is there a readme.txt or similar in the file? If so, what does it say?

What makes you think it is for Hermes and not Universal or another device?

scorpio16v: some threads were deleted. For legal reasons, we cannot host the rom on this site. For even more relevant moral reasons, we cannot risk harm to people that leak roms in an identifiable form, so try to protect them if that happens. But apart from that, we're all quite interested in roms, Crossbow or otherwise.

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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] honestabe:
here is a screenshot of what i see
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jokinawa:
Does the picture represent your phone? If not I wouldnt try it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] honestabe:
nope, and i havnt tried it.. im simply tryin to see if this can be used or if it helps anyone out.. if it does, awsome.. .if it doesnt, i tried...

abe
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] vijay555:
No, that's definitely the Universal Rom that I repackaged, the original Universal leak:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=289989&highlight=preview

This is what was in there when I renamed it "WM6PreRelease.rar":

(that's output from Dir. Date, Time, FileSize, Filename)

This file at least is Universal only. Don't try and fry your Hermes.

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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] honestabe:
thanks for the rply vjay.. i found it and didnt know what to do with it.. thought i found a treasure... anyway.. :( sorry guys
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pietrucci:
Close, please...

Moderators could you remove this thread please???
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] vijay555:
I think it's worth leaving on for education, but I'll lock it.

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