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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pjcforpres:
That is the big ol' round widget with the weather, date, and battery meter. Mine doesn't even register in my battery stats, so I am guessing yours has gone rogue. Actually, I am guessing you either have a bunch of places setup in the weather updating a lot, are using GPS location for the weather feature, or some other oddity. You could try clearing all data for the widget, and setting it back up, or if you haven't setup the weather yet, setting up the weather, and choosing to manually enter your location instead of auto detecting based on location.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] timeToy:
Yesterday I run a side by side comparison of the battery life of the 64Gb Droid Turbo vs. Galaxy S5 with 3500mAh OEM battery. I run the same tasks simultaneously on both phones: 3-4 hours of Youtube video, 1 hour of web browsing (Chrome and Dolphin), 1 hour of GPS navigation with Maps and the rest with the Game Bad Piggies. Both phone are stock with disabled app using the System's Application manager, both are sitting side by side with brightness set to Auto.

The Droid Turbo performed rather well:

While 9h 9min of screen on time is a really good performance and in line with the Droid Turbo expectations. It is not as spectacular as I was hoping.

Here is a similar usage pattern on the Galaxy S5 with the 3500mAh battery:

As you can see I got 2 extra hours of screen time at 11h 33m!

Looking at the breakdown of the power consumption it is clear to me that the Droid Turbo qHD screen is negatively affecting battery life significantly:

Droid Turbo: 3900 mAh battery, 50% of it used in the screen in about 549 minutes (the screen consume 3.55 mAh/min)

S5: 3500 mAh, 27% of it used in the screen in about 693 minutes (the screen consume 1.36 mAh/min)

I really, really, really wanted to like the Droid Turbo. I took time off on Thursday to get it, I drove to 3 Verizon Stores to find one that will sell it to me. But it become clear pretty quickly that I was making it home with less juice than what my 3500mAh Galaxy S5 was achieving. The Droid Turbo has better specs and will get Android 5.0 sooner, but I think the Turbo is an unbalanced phone, that wanted to be the spec king in every categories, and in my opinion we pay a very high price for the qHD screen in term of battery performance. I can't help to wonder how awesome the Droid Turbo would have been with a power efficient 1080 screen...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] CrzzyLegz:
If that's the case, I'll just kill it (clear data and disable). I haven't used that widget since day 1. Had some nice information on the widget but was pretty ugly in my opinion as I'm much more of a minimalistic kind of guy.

Thanks for the help!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Metfanant:
So far I'm slightly disappointed with the battery life...this is coming from a 2013 Droid Maxx...

I would say I'm not getting quite the battery life as I was getting on the Maxx
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] timjp692:
I'm gonna agree with the fact that something is wrong during the device idle. My G3 would drop 1% over 8 hours of standby!!! This phone drops 10% over 8 hours of standby its insane the difference. I hope someone figures out whats going on soon.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
Moderate to heavy use.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] timjp692:
Everyone is just testing max screen time, I would like to see people test endurance because that's where the issue is. Its not screen time battery drain, its idle time battery drain. This phone should be getting more then 24 hours, hell my G3 can get 24 hours.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] DoctorB0NG:
That and 5 hours SoT is not even that impressive. My G2 with xdabbeb's stock ROM got around 6 hours SoT over 36 hours.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
True true but that's because your rooted and don't have much bloat ware compared to this droid turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] DoctorB0NG:
I don't think removing bloatware is magically going to make this phone a beast. There's something else that Motorola and Verizon need to figure out.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
Could be so but with root we can really hibernate the apps or freeze them so they aren't running in the background.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Andromjb:
Yes, a rooted phone with a custom ROM used as comparison. Brilliant. Thanks for the pointless contribution.

There is not doubt that if Turbo had or gets an unlocked bootloader and root, the possibilities of extendable battery life would increase tremendously with customization. The phone is already a beast, there is absolutely zero lag. Battery life is the only thing that could use optimization. I'm 100% confident that Motorola is putting all their effort into 5.0 as it is right around the corner.

Phones been on the market for less than a week, calm down people.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] DoctorB0NG:
Rooting a phone doesn't magically make the phone a battery beast. The idle drain is insane, that's a fact.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Andromjb:
OK? Even with "idle drain" I'm still getting more battery life out of my Turbo than any other phone I've owned, including an S5. So, if it gets better... then the happier I will be.

However, my point was I'm waiting to see results from an update and/or Android 5.0.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] timjp692:
Well my G3 wasn't rooted and had better idle battery time so that disproves that theory. Its all about how the ROM is optimized, bottom line something is not optimized right on this phone.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Here's my first run. From 100% to 8% stock out of the box, no settings turned off.

Sent from my XT1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] veloct:
Most of these results are useless because it takes a few cycles for the battery to settle.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Andromjb:
With all the complaints floating around, I'm taking the time to personally do some testing over the next 24-48 hrs. Being there is no ability to root/unlock the phone currently, there is little to work with..

I have disabled quite a bit of features and/or apps, as well optimized some of the advanced settings through-out. I will make a detailed post by Friday evening with the overall results.

So far I have experienced only 4% battery drain overnight in a 7 hr time frame, with both wifi & bluetooth actively pushing Moto 360 notifications during sleep.

More on this later.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheValhallan:
I'm getting about 14 hours of heavy usage. While this isn't bad for an android phone by any means, it sure isn't anywhere near the promised 48 hour mark.

I'm interested to see what your test dig up
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Andromjb:
Anyone could easily push 48hrs, but that would require extremely light use in terms of voice, text, email, video & web browsing. But no one here or in the real world for the most part fits this category.

It's not an exaggerated statement, it's just not an extremely honest statement either. But most of us are smart enough not to expect an actual 48hr runtime with our usage.

I'm not making excuses, the device definitely should, on paper anyway, be lasting longer.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mobilehavoc:
I have a Moto360 connected to and I'm sure that impacts idle drain also I bet the Moto software like the active display and always listening voice has some impact (I know the voice should have none but I'm sure there's a small amount).

It all depends how you use the phone. Regardless of what other people would post, before this phone I could never get close to 4 hours of SOT at all. My S5 would crap out before I hit 3. My Nexus 5 would be around 2.5. THat's just how I use the phones. This one I usually get 3.5-4 on a regular basis and it lasts me through the entire day. That's all I can ask for...I know Android Lollipop will make things only better too.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Andromjb:
Previously coming from an S5. I agree, Turbo is outlasting anything I've owned in the past and the minimal charge time is pretty unreal.

My testing is going very well so far. One thing for certain based on current stats is that the QHD screen on the Turbo is incredibly power hungry.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Gator357:
Update to my battery stats

UPDATE: OK, I missed documenting the second battery charge, because it was late and I was tired. However, my latest run was worse than before, and again the Command Center Widget is just sucking down the battery. I can't find anywhere to really make it do less (already have only carrier and Wi-Fi set in the locations tab outside the widget, but I don't see much of a way to control things like polling intervals, etc. I do have it set to "current location" instead of just the town I live in. I guess I could try hard-setting that to a city, but that diminishes the value even more. I think for now I'm going to remove the widget. Maybe I can try it again in the future after the next update or something.

I also plan further optimize battery via locale or tasker or something to replace some of the lost granular control the old Motorola Droid Razr had on battery options.... but since the widget was using so much, I think just getting rid of that should make a HUGE difference.

Latest stats are in the screenshot. Still mostly very light at-home use on Wi-Fi.

Still very happy with my choice. Fully expected some tweaking to be needed, and confident I can extend this to where I want it to be. I'd definitely have gone with a 1080p screen and better perf/battery, but this is going to work just fine once I get some tweaks done.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrialk:
Droid MAXX user chiming in here. There was the same excitement over idle drain on the MAXX when it first came out. Nothing fixed it and you learned to ignore it because the phone always made it through the day which is all that matters.

The best I saw was 0.75%/hr right after a data wipe with everything off, except WiFi and cell. No location, mobile data, etc.

Sent from my XT1080M
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zachtheowl:
This is 2nd or 3rd full power cycle...5.5%/hr drain? Am i reading correctly?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] xkape:
I'm digging the battery, can't complain. I just checked my top two usages.. Voice calls 35% at 2 hours 10 minutes (less than I thought I talked today for sure) and screen time at 1 hours and 21 minutes. Im 12 hours in on the battery off charge. 53% and this is the very first charge it's ever had.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cyberr8der:
Your app usage looks high in gsam. In the stock battery monitor you can look into the apps and look for keep awake which also seems high in the gsam reading.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Aarongauntt:
If you haven't disabled all the b.s., its night and day difference. I forgot to on my replacement and had poor battery life until I remembered.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] xkape:
what are you disabling? I killed the Hidu and korean **** but thats it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] laduate:
Here are my stats for today.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] DoctorB0NG:
Well that's really useful without screen on time...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Xelios029:
http://i.imgur.com/tDU37x7.png

58 minutes of screen time. This unit is going back.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] MMag05:
Its a Beast

So after 4 days use here are my stats. This was on a day off for me so I took it for a good spin. It came off the charger around 0830 and it died on me at 0200 in the morning. The screenshots were taken at 2%. It broke down to nearly 6 hours SoT, 90 minutes talking, 2 hours BT streaming, 45 minutes Google Maps, 30 minute TV show, D/L a 300 mb torrent and the rest was web surfing. I keep brightness on auto, GPS on high accuracy, BT on only when used and I turn off mobile data when on wifi for extended periods.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
I keep getting 42-45% screen every day and charge cycle. Is this good or bad??
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] civiksi:
Damn. 6 hours screen time. What are you watching all day! :D I'd say you're doing great battery wise with all your stats.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] INCREMENTAL:
All that means is your using ur phone alot in that period of time that's why ur screen has a high percentage.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] MMag05:
I'm on vacation and mostly sitting around so, most of it was web surfing.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
But it's every day though from morning to night
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] INCREMENTAL:
Maybe ur not following me. What I'm saying is the only way u can get this reading is from ur screen being on. There is no other way. So the only time this reading goes up is when u have the screen on. The active display may contribute to this a little bit on its own.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lafont28:
Im very happy with these stats. Way better than anything I got out of my rooted Maxx, even with greenify.

sent from Sunshine deprived Turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Andromjb:
My final results from last charge. More than happy.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cyberr8der:
My latest run.......
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Andromjb:
Damn! Got me beat buy 28 minutes! But I did have more idle time.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cyberr8der:
Hahaha. Overall I don't think either of us can complain lol
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
Love this phone but still thinking how this compares to the sony z3
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cyberr8der:
Everyone's needs and wants are different. Just have to try it out and make a decision based on your needs. If the Sony has features you like the turbo doesn't it is what it is as they say.....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
Oh okay then. Just saying and asking since sony also promises and or says of two day battery life
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pchain:
I have the Z3v on Verizon. I am averaging 8.5 to 9.5 hours of screen time with moderate use and none of the battery stamina modes enabled. Once I hit 11 hours of on screen time. The Z3v can easily go two days if screen time isn't very high. The regular Z3 has a more battery efficient screen than the Z3v, so I would guess you would see similar if not more battery life, although I haven't tested the Z3 myself.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
That's what I wanted! A comparison or real life fact about the phone battery life. Thanks for the input!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pchain:
Your welcome. Here's my screenshots for today...

7 hours screen on time with 22% left, WiFi off, BT off, Location on, no stamina modes enabked, moderate use, in a poor reception area.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
Wow that's fantastic battery life! Congrats! I am still in the verge of either staying with the turbo it switching to z3. Just the pros and cons of both are difficult to find a clear winner.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] thegrants82:
Same here. Had the turbo then returned it for the z3v. Like night and day with battery and camera;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] KPMcClave:
Cell Standby

Any insight on Cell Standby use in particular by the battery? I noticed that it is proportionally higher in my stats the past week, since I got my Turbo. I don't recall exactly, but it seems it was usually more in the 2-3% range, as in the z3v pics, on my Droid Maxx. On the Turbo I have been seeing between 8-11%. Note that I am comparing the Maxx to the Turbo and my own use of each, so that much increase in battery use seems odd.

Overall the Turbo seems to not be giving me much battery boost over the Maxx it replaced. Can't complain generally speaking, but I expected a little bump at worst. Maybe it's still "settling in," but it's been at least five charge cycles at this point.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
Exactly!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jaben2:
Well unfortunately for me since I really like the moto interface. It looks like I'm going to have to exchange it and go with the z3v. I have been watching the threads for that phone plus this one. I have already exchanged this one for a defective speaker and this one isn't any better. Plus battery life is nowhere near what I was expecting. These wake locks are ridiculous.

Maybe I will pick up the Z2 tablet now since I think they still have $200 off.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Andromjb:
I got just over 8hr 30m full SoT on my latest charge and test.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56579908&postcount=35
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sofa k1ng:
I just noticed something really strange with my battery stats... When I got off of work this morning I put my phone on the charger, let It fully charge before going to bed. I did this so I could test idle drain w different settings turned off. I took the phone off the charger at 9 with 100% battery and now at 6 it is only showing a little over 5hrs on the battery?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jaben2:
Not to shabby I think.

This is from 87% I made some changes that were suggested in the other battery thread.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Steve One:
OK this is after the third charge,

mostly watching showbox, checking out XDA and internet.

That was using as hard as I could. Now I'm gonna go normal and see how long it goes.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jaben2:
I'm ok with these numbers in not a huge user. Normally about 2 hrs screen time a day. Almost completely lte.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Galaxo60:
Really impressive numbers, any tip of how to get stats similar to you?.

:D
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
Got this today from heavy use and have only disabled the bloatware. All the rest is running like attentive display and Moto voice.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cstone1991:
Here it is after a pretty easy day for me. I have WiFi, GPS (battery saver in locations), and BT turned on all day with WiFi only connected for about 3-4 hours and BT only connected for about 2 hours. I also have about 1.5 hours of Spotify streaming via BT. I disabled most of the bloat apps disabled, but I have attentive display and pretty much all the Moto stuff on. I also have 2 gmail accounts and 2 live accounts on push sync and run Gtalk ALL day. I can't complain about battery life in the least!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rabaker07:
These results are all over the map. 1 day 7 hrs with 10 hrs SOT, another with only 13 hrs and 3.75 hrs SOT.

What gives?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sincerity:
yea i'm not understanding how some of you are getting 10 hrs of screen time...thats insane when I barely get 3
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Steve One:
This is just my opinion on this.

On my device it gets better sot if I run the heck out of it. These pics are after a little over a day of what I would call normal use by me and are just fine.

I don't mind having to charge it after a day and a half of use but was totally surprised by my 10 hour sot day I posted a day or so ago.

Like I said earlier no Facebook or Twitter I use location and Moto voice no approach and the biggest thing probably is screen set to auto
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Steve One:
Here
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] MrTSolar:
While true that Lithium Ion is much better than nickel cadmium in almost any regard, there are quite a few things you can do to shorten the life of the battery:

1. High SoC (state of charge), especially at higher temperatures, over a longer period of time dramatically shortens battery life. Lithium ion likes to be kept closer to 50% charge and 73°F. The ideal charge range is 20% to 80%.

2. Charging when the battery is below 32°F (0°C) can result in lithium plating, which permanently damages the battery, reducing available capacity. The faster the charge rate, the worse it is.

3. The usual physical abuse: puncture, bend, deform, short circuit, etc. Most of these are pretty easy to avoid, especially since the Turbo has a non-removable battery.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Steve One:
So you're saying a regular charger would be better to use than the turbo charger.

Because I've seen multiple posts stating regular and wireless chargers are causing problems
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] MrTSolar:
In colder temperatures, a slower charge would be better on the battery. Otherwise, there hasn't been much to show that fast charging is harmful to lithium ion.

Not sure of issues with standard/wireless charging. That could be related to the charger in the phone or the firmware that controls it.

Turbo charging should have very little effect on the battery as long as the temperature isn't too high or low (around freezing or above 90°F).

I drive an electric car and participate in an owners' forum, so that has taught me quite a bit about how lithium ion batteries behave in different environments. Some owners quick charge their vehicles (80% charge in 30 minutes or less) regularly and haven't recorded any significant loss of life over those who charge only at slower rates.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
That's what I have been using. The normal charger that I used to charge my lg g2. I only use my turbo charger when I need quick charge. And have gotten better battery life

---------- Post added at 11:23 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:21 AM ----------

But then again this isn't a car and the cooling down process for a phone is very different. This phone easily makes it above 90 degrees.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] MrTSolar:
True. Phones usually aren't designed so that the battery will last 8 years like an EV is, so the car takes much better care of its battery. Getting the battery warm for a few hours won't hurt, but staying there for a long time will accelerate the degradation.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
Exactly! You get my point. Plus also The only way for the phone to cool down is that the cpu and gpu downscale for a while to then all cool down but that's with root really for all that to be done. Literally the only way for this phone to cool is to stop using it for a bit. In my of g2 with dorimanx that best feature of loved is the automatic cooling feature it did by itself and barely did it ever get hot like this phone
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Elysium1215:
What is everyone's idle battery temperatures? On GSAM mine is usually 90+F which I think may be a cause of my mediocre battery life...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pegs520:
I got the phone on Sunday. I feel like it should be better. I remember getting better battery with my maxx hd on stock.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Elysium1215:
Pretty disappointing, I might be doing something wrong. I also have only been through one full cycle so I'll wait it out for a bit before I reset and potentially return.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jaben2:
If you are using a wireless charger, try using the included charger. I was getting similar battery life when using a wireless charger went to the turbo charger and haven't had less than 24hrs per charge.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Munkee915:
Picked mine up 11/10 had 55% out of the box. Set up apps and settings at work over wifi. By the time i got home it was at about 30%. Charged overnight to 100% and gave it another day, moderate usage got me to about 30% by the time i plugged back in before bed. About 19h off charger. Charged her up again and this time applied the battery tweaks from the other thread here (except killing the Amazon and NFL apps as I actually use those). Currently at 29h w/ 12% left. Moderate usage. Facebook, ESPN. About 1.5hours of miracast and straming audio in the car on my drive to/from work, a little over an hour of talk time, shows about 2.5h SOT. Getting better although I noticed I lost about 20% battery overnight. Going to drain it down to dead and recharge and install Greenify and see if I can push it further.