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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] qwerty12601:
He runs all his tests on devices when they're new, making the rounds to tech reviewers. Hes not testing them side by side. He's comparing the results he got on an lg g3 6 months ago, and iphone 6 a month ago, etc. So the "settled in" theory is put.

And its of no difference what processor is in what phone. No one can pick or choose a specific processor for their phone. Hes testing device against device just as if spmeone were looking foe the phone with the best battery life would. Theyre not going to say "im looking for the phone with the best battery life utilizing a snapdragon 805. Its phome against phone.

Theres other reports coming in of the battery not being exactly as claimed. I truly belueve its a verizon issue. I guarantee this phone unlocked (moto maxx?) On a gsm network will get better performance from tge battery. I have a moto x pure on at&t. Getting 5:30-6 hours SOT and that seems to be common among the pure devices. Verizon versions? 2:30-3:30. Thats no coincidence...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] geoff5093:
That makes the test even less reliable. Websites get more and more content heavy, and the OS has more and more features as time goes on. Comparing it to usage 6 or 12 months ago is not relevant.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gordonzhao:
So he runs tests within a day of the phone launch, even more unreliable. If you find a processor makes no difference there's no point in comparison. You're correct, you can't choose the processor on your device, but you can't just compare phone for phone, something has to be in common. Of the factors that take a toll on battery, the network, screen and processor are probably the top 3, so why wouldn't that matter?

That's funny how he obtained devices for comparison that are 5 months and a month and half old, g3 and iPhone, respectively, 6 months ago. ; )

And why wouldn't anyone look for a device with the same processor but want the one that utilizes the processor and it's energy efficiency the most? Because that's definitely one of the things I and many others would look for, especially since the 805 is the newest released of the group.

You're also contradicting what you're saying, sot of a handset on att and vzw, you admitted it yourself, you get more on att. So that validates my point earlier about the network. Again the network could be crippling the theoretical 2 day battery life this phone can have.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] INCREMENTAL:
Phonearenas review is up http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Motorola-DROID-Turbo-Review_id3838/page/4
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Erasmus354:
Which completely refutes the Tom's battery results. These results are much more in line with what you would expect. A little less than double the life of the Moto X with a little less than double the battery size.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gordonzhao:
Their day and a half of heavier usage would probably last me all day on a heavy day without having to worry about charging. Very promising!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] traccdma:
The Tom's guide editors prove that carriers play a HUGE role on another site they run: http://blog.laptopmag.com/tmobile-phones-longer-battery-life They ran the same "Laptopmag battery test" app. The S5, for example, lasted 2hrs longer on AT&T and 3.5hrs longer on Tmobile than verizon.

Several hours in to my own test, I appear to be getting 12.5 hours video playback time on the Turbo vs 16 hours on the Maxx. 8% battery usage per hour on the Turbo, compared to 6% per hour on the Maxx

Conditions: 210lux on both screens. Turbo=50% brightness Maxx=37% brightness

Maxx is running 4.2.2 (which has been the best for battery life), Turbo is running 4.4.4

All radios disabled, All add-ons and applications disabled/stopped, SIM cards removed, playing the LEGO Movie repeatedly from Vudu offline content
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mobilehavoc:
That's expected based on your test - the Turbo has a faster CPU/GPU and a higher pixel density screen will result in less battery life. Given all that, it's impressive it's still that close.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] qwerty12601:
Youre missing the point about processors. You cant choose the processor for a specific phone, what they install is what you get. So you cant use that as an argument to being inconclusive results when thats all you have to compare! Theyre not being inconclusive because they didnt use an htc one m8 with a snapdragon 805, it doesnt exist! You have to compare whats avgilable to whats available.

And im not contradicting myself at all. If you re-read my posts without bias youd see that i am blaming verizon. I thorougly believe verizons network causes more battery drain than others. Thats my point. But my point is also, you dont have a choice with the droid turbo! Verizon it is! And if thats the reason for less than advertised bgttery life youre stuck with it as you have no choice. Therefore the phone itself is underperforming.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gordonzhao:
Not the best phone to chose for an example. This has been known that it was coming... http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_max_rumored_to_have_snapdragon_805_chip-news-9305.php
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] qwerty12601:
Whats the revelance?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gordonzhao:
I give up
[Nexus 6  General] lightlytoasted:
Felt like this needed a poll. Curious about how many actually got in.

Edit:

A much larger poll was done by Android Police on G+. Numbers as of this morning are:

Votes: 3577

Ordered: 444 - 12%

Could not order: 3,133 - 88%

Source: https://plus.google.com/+AndroidPolice/posts/iuipVJ5Km13
[Nexus 6  General] lensgrabber:
64gb white, refreshed "Coming soon", refreshed "Out of stock"

I call BULL****. I've been camping out all morning hitting refresh and this happens.
[Nexus 6  General] lightlytoasted:
Sure sorry man. I think it's likely you could get in an order before Nov !@#$ing 21 and it might even ship same as everyone elses? Good luck those who missed it.
[Nexus 6  General] doctahjeph:
****ing bull****. Guess I will stick with my Z Ultra longer.
[Nexus 6  General] 10pmStalker:
It will be shipped well before the 21st. Nexus 5 said 2-3 weeks for shipment and was recieved in 3 days after launch.
[Nexus 6  General] idonthavename.7:
Ordered 32 gb blue
[Nexus 6  General] epphllps:
Midnight Blue 32GB
[Nexus 6  General] lightlytoasted:
I remember that, but I think the "leaves warehouse date" was pretty accurate most of the time. However, back then your order didn't have that date right away, it showed up later on.
[Nexus 6  General] leyvatron:
I had refresh extension for every 3 seconds on a 64gb blue. It showed up, I added to card, it dissapeared. I checked back and it was out of stock. I got like 2 more "add to carts" later and when I clicked on them, the phone would not get added.

I only focused on a blue 64gb and it went out of stock in about 6 seconds. WTF? :confused:
[Nexus 6  General] ilostmypistons:
32 white successfully ordered
[Nexus 6  General] ordiesep88:
How long ago?
[Nexus 6  General] elementaldragon:
I'm in the same boat. Been checking ever since like 1:30 when pushbullet said orders were love. Saw "coming soon" with no Add to Cart button. Then out of stock with grayed out add to cart. Only got to add to cart once, but same as you, took me to an empty cart.

I think it's more technical difficulties than actually sold out.
[Nexus 6  General] relaxable:
Don't be so cynical. Google did accept a total of 20 orders - 5 each for White & Blue / 32 & 64 gb.
[Nexus 6  General] dwd3885:
i got one. midnight blue 64gb. 3-4 weeks shipping.
[Nexus 6  General] Jsunn:
That's the one I wanted too... :(
[Nexus 6  General] Jweimn:
Spoke to google

32gb went out of stock in 30 ssconds

64gb went out in a min
[Nexus 6  General] gtalum:
Disappointing. Well I guess I'm back in the market for a new device. :D
[Nexus 6  General] SeanPlunk:
I don't believe the reps know anything. Furthermore, I was refreshing every 5 seconds since literally 10 and it was never in stock so I don't see how that's possible.
[Nexus 6  General] xploitnt:
Was able to get an order in for a 64gb white in the seemingly 3 second window before they sold out! :D
[Nexus 6  General] elementaldragon:
How much "stock" did they have!? 10 of each?
[Nexus 6  General] StajercS:
Just 12 in stock. Wow Google...................... Not orders for Europe.
[Nexus 6  General] olsonnet:
At first only the 32GB blue showed in stock, waited a few seconds, refreshed, and the 32GB white was available so I ordered. First time cart was emptied but second time worked. Never saw either 64GB version available.
[Nexus 6  General] sgloki77:
When I received the pushbullet notification I kept refreshing only the 64gb midnight blue page and it went straight from pre-order to out of stock, never even got to see the "add to cart" option what sort of wizardly is this? :eek:
[Nexus 6  General] gtalum:
I had a 64 GB Blue in my cart but it disappeared.
[Nexus 6  General] VTEChump:
32gb white. Had to refresh a bunch of times, finally got it about 10 minutes after pre-order was opened.
[Nexus 6  General] sgvjon:
had the chance to click "add to cart" 3 times, each time giving me an error that it was OOS. :confused::confused:
[Nexus 6  General] Geese1:
I mentioned this on another forum, but can this really be called a preorder? I thought a preorder was meant to gauge how much stock they needed to manufacture before a release date.

In this case, it's like they already have a (very) limited amount of stock available, but if that's the case why are they giving 3 week ship estimates?

This is going to be my first Nexus phone, and I'm kind of disheartened to see that they haven't improved the "preorder" process over their last two efforts.
[Nexus 6  General] klubhead:
I had a Chrome extension refreshing the white 32gb page every 10 seconds since 1030am EST, I saw it change from "coming soon" to "We are out of inventory. Please check back soon." without ever having a chance to buy.

Wonderful.
[Nexus 6  General] Nickcu13:
I dont know why Google isn't able to handle orders. They're one of the largest tech companies but never have enough product to meet demand. They know demand based on search results and yet they STILL can't make sure they have enough? This is getting out of hand.
[Nexus 6  General] Skripka:
They know. It is intentional.

When devices sell out price it makes their stock price go up. Sellout "pre orders" are not about consumers, they're about gamblers on the stock market.
[Nexus 6  General] Jeimygirl:
In that case, they should sell out in a reasonable amount of time, a real world sell out time like 30 mins to an hour? Not seconds.

It's no longer "I was one of the lucky ones to buy one before they sold out because it's such a high demand awesome phone!"

it's now " I was one of the lucky ones to buy one before they pretended to be sold out to look good for their stocks, even though others will likely have the phone in hand before I do as I may get my phone after the retailers sell them too if shipment dates stand."
[Nexus 6  General] Skripka:
Learn how the stock market con-game is played.

Billions of shares are traded per day...and probably 99% of those are robo-generated calls. Those robo generated trades are incredibly latency sensitive. As in people pay millions or billions to have their trading computer servers

housed physically next to the stock exchanges

---because the added mili- and nano-seconds of latency from shooting digital signals down optic cable an extra 500 ft make the difference between making billions or losing big.

Pre-order sellouts in seconds works out just fine for that purpose. Like I said, it ain't about us the consumers. It never is with megacorporations, it is about bumping the share price on highly automated computer-generated bulk gambling.
[Nexus 6  General] lightlytoasted:
I don't think its about pushing up stock price at all, they get tons of bad press for nexus releases.

Anyone notice how you could pre-order the N9 on Amazon the day before Google Play? Or how you can pre-order the N9 cases on Amazon and it has never been listed for sale at all on Google Play.

I think they don't want to sell devices. Maybe it helps them stay pals with the carriers and OEMs? I don't know but I'm pretty sure they don't want to actually sell devices.
[Nexus 6  General] bigwhiteegg:
Got a White 32GB.

The pre-order started right before I got back to my computer, and I was lucky enough to refresh an available order.

I placed my order at 10:38 AM PST.
[Nexus 6  General] lightlytoasted:
Hey yours was a little late, glad you snuck in there!
[Nexus 6  General] Jsunn:
Anecdotally, less than 20% of the people that wanted one got one... :(
[Nexus 6  General] acheney1990:
32 GB white...ordered. Just hoping shipping doesn't take that long.
[Nexus 6  General] lightlytoasted:
Wish we could figure out how many sold, 250? 500 maybe? Seems like a lot of the type of folks who could get a nexus in less than 2 mins after an unannounced launch would probably end up on xda.
[Nexus 6  General] oneplus:
Google has fun playing with these fanboys.
[Nexus 6  General] Sentrix27:
Never once saw it available.

Financing it through T-Mobile, anyways.
[Nexus 6  General] ratchetjaw:
This was just total bs. I may just wait or pass on it all together
[Nexus 6  General] Skripka:
Try less than half that many. as a wild guess. I'd sooner guess 50 or 100 than anywhere near your numbers.
[Nexus 6  General] EvoKnvl:
32GB White at 10:33am
[Nexus 6  General] jraymond:
Successful order. 32GB, Midnight Blue, 11:17:05 AM MDT. Leaves warehouse in 3 - 4 weeks.
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Was on since 12pm est time. Refreshing until 3 pm. Went from coming soon to out of stock. Looks like ill get one next year sometime.
[Nexus 6  General] wvcadle:
Worst. Release. Ever. Period.
[Nexus 6  General] PaisanNYC:
Midnight Blue 64GB ordered at 1:28PM EST/10:28AM PST. Now where's the accessories? :D
[Nexus 6  General] Pilz:
That's exactly what happened to me... I called googled and they sad we are working on fixing this issue.. I hope they get more in because I really want the Nexus 6 64gb blue
[Nexus 6  General] djkinetic:
Blue 32 successfully ordered.
[Nexus 6  General] wideasleep1:
Seems like the window was 10:15 10:30 ish PST. I was actually snoozing AND losing.
[Nexus 6  General] ceo.mtcl:
Got 32GB White

Got a 32 GB white. Ordered at 12:54 pm CST. I was up all night refreshing and then it suddenly went from coming soon to out of stock. I kept on refreshing again and again and got it once. I wanted a 64 GB Blue though, but I am content with what I got.

Correction: 12:54 CST not EST.
[Nexus 6  General] NardVa:
It seems like a majority of the people never even got an option to add a Nexus 6 to their cart. Very fishy considering it was out of stock in a matter of seconds.
[Nexus 6  General] acheney1990:
I got super lucky. Didn't think I would. Kept saying my cart was empty when I would click on one if it popped up.
[Nexus 6  General] lightlytoasted:
Well about 50 are accounted for just in this poll. I think 1 in 5 purchasers who happen to be on xda nexus 6 forums AND took time to do the poll seems reasonable.

Obviously its anyone's guess and we'll never know. It was sufficiently low to sell out in minutes / seconds.
[Nexus 6  General] markwebb:
I agree. I was refreshing constantly beginning at 1pm EST when the page was originally stating preorder available October 29 and it magically changed to out of inventory.

I honestly believe today was one major marketing ploy with only very few being offered to generate buzz. No way it could sell out in 30 seconds.

Shame on Google.
[Nexus 6  General] xbassols:
Nexus 6 availability Pushbullet Channel

Hi guys!

I've setup a Pushbullet channel for me to be notified about all nexus 6 availability in US.

So if you want to give a rest to your F5 button and still be notified just subscribe .

Channel: allnexus6availabilityus
[Nexus 6  General] jeffreii:
Placed my order at 1:17PM EDT. 32 GB Blue.

Had Pushbullet and Page Monitor extension set up (10s interval). I was reading my RSS feeds when Page Monitor notified me and I saw the Nexus 6 page still showed "Coming Soon" but there was an add to cart button. I completed the purchase and it said "You need to log in to Google again to purchase this item." I logged in again and did the whole process again (probably took 30 seconds each time since my info is saved) and my order completed and I received a confirmation email instantly. The Pushbullet notification came about 1 minute after the Page Monitor notification.

3-4 weeks shipping, leaves warehouse 11/21.
[Nexus 6  General] verks:
I landed a 32gb midnight blue. Had the 64 gb in my cart I once but it disappeared. I ordered it from my phone. I refreshed a ton of time over about 45 minutes to an hours.

Made the purchase at 1:52pm EST.
[Nexus 6  General] dynamikz:
White 64 available for about 3 seconds. Got one. $764.91 in CA with the 3-5 day shipping.
[Nexus 6  General] resynx:
Just now? Or earlier today?
[Nexus 6  General] dynamikz:
Order submitted at exactly 10:29 am PST.
[Nexus 6  General] resynx:
Thanks. At least we know that we have a chance (a very small chance at that) to snag one still at this late hour still.
[Nexus 6  General] kornklown69:
32gb blue successfully ordered seconds after launch.
[Nexus 6  General] AWDSM:
Kept refreshing the page like a mad man, had about 4-5 near misses with "Your cart is empty" then finally purchased a 32GB blue one at 2:40PM ET.
[Nexus 6  General] DoobyDroid:
When will UK pre orders start as the play store says unavailable in your country still or was it just US start 29th [emoji53]
[Nexus 6  General] AWDSM:
US only. For now.
[Nexus 6  General] DoobyDroid:
[emoji24]
[Nexus 6  General] ttrier:
Preorder or Sale

How do you run out of stock on a preorder?
[Nexus 6  General] chrisg1548:
This is almost as bad as opo invite system. Was hoping to get in on this as this is my first time with nexus.
[Nexus 6  General] DoobyDroid:
Prob as google thought It would not sell as many due to the over size I was going to buy but think are stick with my G900F as that just fits nice in my hand @5'1 inch 6" far to big may as well carry a tablet in ones pocket lol
[Nexus 6  General] SurlyGnex:
White 32 GB in the pipes!

Prior to the pre-orders going live, I read about someone using page monitor to get notified of any changes on the Nexus 6 play store page. I set one up myself so I could stop manually refreshing the page every few minutes.

At about 10:15 Pacific time, it occurred to me the page monitor might not be working. I manually refreshed the page and there it was: a 32gb white nexus 6 (which was my first choice) ready to be added to my cart. I quickly checked out and received the invoice email.

Right after, I went back out of curiosity to see what was still left. All were out of stock. I checked Google+ and Twitter. Seems like pre-orders became unavailable within a few minutes of going live. I'm so glad I doubted that page monitor extension and checked the site again!
[Nexus 6  General] sgloki77:
I don't understand how a company like Google who is projected to make a 15 BILLION profit for this year alone, can **** up so bad on its Nexus launch, UNLESS this is all by design with some hidden purpose behind
[Nexus 6  General] kornklown69:
to make you want it more...forces subliminal desire... luckily my order went through yesterday or id be wanting it even worse..
[Nexus 6  General] atuarre:
Is it "Add to cart" or "Add to basket" cause I swear I thought it was Add to basket. Maybe that is why so many peoples page monitors did not go off.
[Nexus 6  General] wekebu:
Got the Blue 32GB. Wanted the 64GB, but realized it probably sold out first, so settled on the 32 and got it in the second (?) wave of sales. My ship date is Nov 21st.

---------- Post added at 08:25 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:24 AM ----------

Don't you find it oddly curious that Motorola officially became a Lenovo company today?
[Nexus 6  General] atuarre:
Motorola was sold off to Lenovo a while back. You should follow the news more. The deal might have closed today.

---------- Post added at 10:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:42 AM ----------

Arris got the cable modem stuff and something else. Google got the patents and Lenovo got the handset business. Who do you think make the 360?
[Nexus 6  General] AWDSM:
On the US site it is "Add to cart". Maybe it is "Add to basket" on the UK site.
[Nexus 6  General] atuarre:
Then why when I look at the Nexus 9 it shows "Add to Basket" and I'm on the US site...
[Nexus 6  General] AWDSM:
Are you currently located in the US? Cause if not, you are not on the US site unless you are using a US proxy.
[Nexus 6  General] atuarre:
I'm in Louisiana. in the US; Suddenlink Communications, no proxy.
[Nexus 6  General] lightlytoasted:
Haha it also says "Dispatched from warehouse..."

Are you in the UK? Maybe its showing you a different version of the page based on your location? Mine says "Add to cart" and "Leaves warehouse by November 3"

Edit:

Maybe in Louisiana they say Basket and Dispatched more... just kidding, that's pretty strange
[Nexus 6  General] atuarre:
No. As I stated previously, I'm in the United States, no proxy.
[Nexus 6  General] wekebu:
Of course I knew that. Why do you think I worded my statement as "Motorola officially became a Lenovo".

Tough crowd.
[Nexus 6  General] xbassols:
Try to check the play store page with a incognito tab and without being logged in.
[Nexus 6  General] atuarre:
Incognito worked. It showed add to cart under that. Now I'm confused.
[Nexus 6  General] xbassols:
Yep well same happened to me after I moved into US.

My guess is that your account it's linked to a different country so while you are logged in you will see the other country Play Store.
[Nexus 6  General] atuarre:
I've ordered stuff from the play store before like two of the other android lives watches and had them no problem. Maybe it's just a cosmetic thing?
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
U got one?
[Nexus 6  General] xbassols:
Oh then it looks like it will be just a cosmetic think as you say.
[Nexus 6  General] atuarre:
Yeah..not like it's asking me to pay in euro or anything when I buy apps or devices and I had all the hallmark problems everyone else had yesterday. Add to basket. Device is in basket. Go to check out, device has disappeared.

Still ridiculous that a billion dollar company can't run an e-commerce site correctly. Never thought I would see the day when in America, with the "free markets" and capitalism, that a company would flat out refuse to take your money.
[Nexus 6  General] acheney1990:
Yes I did.
[Nexus 6  General] atuarre:
Lucky. Google is going to drag this out till December, just watch.
[Nexus 6  General] Jhall8:
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/10/nexus-6-stock-held-back-release-carriers.html

Here's an interesting article on Google's strategy. Looks like the carriers have dibs on the Nexus 6.
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
Google's strategy should have been to get them first to there core group XDA ;) and then the corporate bs carriers!
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Lame...so we have to wait and buy it from Verizon or wherever. Which means if you want one to use in any carrier you have to keep trying your luck through Google.
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
Amazing!
[Nexus 6  General] Jhall8:
Editorial about Google's strategy of primarily selling the Nexus 6 through carriers: http://www.digitaltrends.com/opinio...buying/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
[Nexus 6  General] :
XDA group looks more lucky than the AndroidCentral crowd. I think I was the only successful white 64GB acquisition on there. Good to know more people got theirs.
[Nexus 6  General] Namolas:
I didn't think anybody got a 64GB white?! I spent hours and hours refreshing the White 64GB and it instantly changed from coming soon to out of inventory within one refresh. :(
[Nexus 6  General] Skripka:
All models did this exact same behavior on the Play store. Some of each were sold according to buyers posting on XDA
[Nexus 6  General] :
View attachment 2994373

Yeah i think I got way too lucky. No refresh bot either.