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[Verizon LG G3] th3bl3d:
Thanks for looking into this. I think this proves that if someone took the update they could still TOT flash back to 10b and root and install a custom recovery and be just fine. correct me if i'm wrong :)
[Verizon LG G3] subhelix:
So, is it just sporadic that we are able to downgrade. When I originally had to revert to stock, I used the LG Flash tool, once it got to the ready status, I would unplug my phone and plug it back in. The flash tool would automatically detect my phone and do the download. I have verified that my phone is still on COM41. The flash tool gets to ready, i unplug my phone, and once i plug it back in, I just get the waiting for connection message. I have to unplug it once again, and replug it for a detection to start. It then gets to a sentence of hardware check failed, so the download fails. I'm using the latest lg flash tool, the proper dll and tot. Am I just missing something, or is this a hit and miss thing?
[Verizon LG G3] th3bl3d:
Are you using the same versions of everything I have stated that works. Also I used Windows 7 and Windows update to grab my usb drivers
[Verizon LG G3] subhelix:
Yep, I'm using everything that you said works. I'm on Windows 8.1
[Verizon LG G3] th3bl3d:
Do you have access to a Windows 7 install? Also I would try running the flash tool with admin privileges
[Verizon LG G3] autoprime:
well.. you have proved that you were able to go back. I'm still wondering why others are having trouble getting back. Not sure if user error or what. Cuz there is def a change to the bootloader... but there are now 3 people i think who have said they have downgraded. more than 3 have said they either have no ports.. or no connection.. or it just won't flash after going to 10C. Not having a device myself.. it's hard to decide what to make of it all. Just need to sit back and watch for a lil bit I guess... see who succeeds.. who fails.. try to find some differences.

if people that were failing the downgrade start confirming they eventually got it to work.. then I can fully OK it. But everyone try whatever you'd like.. :good:

I think someone that's already rooted on 11C should dump the modem and system :D

the boot.img was already posted a few pages back by someone when i asked for the initial 11C files.

then people with TWRP on 10B can flash it all those.

If you guys just update system/modem/boot... you should be fine...
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
here are the files previously mentioned, to downgrade, and the latest drivers from lg's site.

im not confirming they work, just posting the files, as i already had them.

on a side note, would appreciate it if someone on the new version could pull the modem files, as described by autoprime in post #207.

thanks
[Verizon LG G3] markfm:
autoprime - any chance you might generate an xda thread when the set of system/modem/boot 11c files are available, okay to use bump'd twrp to install on a 10b phone? I'm iorooted, bump twrp'd, others like me are likely waiting on the sideline until a dev says a set of files seems clean. (I know you don't have a vzw phone, however you are a key person.)

Thanks for the awesome work!
[Verizon LG G3] subhelix:
I don't have access to do a windows 7 install. I ran the flash tool in admin mode. I first noticed under device manager that portable devices was showing that the g3 could not be started. I was able to get rid of that error code (10), retried, and got the same results.
[Verizon LG G3] willyjay:
How did you verify the phone is still on COM41? While in device manager, and you see the device in ports, right click to properties.....does it say this hardware device is not connected?

That's what I see weather the G3 is connected or not....still shows a device under ports but the hardware device is not connected.
[Verizon LG G3] subhelix:
I just rechecked it under COM, it shows the g3 on COM41 and properties shows it is working properly. Under portable devices, at first it said device can't be started, error code 10. I did an update to the drivers and restarted my comp, and now that error is gone and properties shows device is working properly. I still get the same thing with the flash tool as I prev did though.
[Verizon LG G3] deathsquad737:
Also on Windows 8 same result here

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[Verizon LG G3] autoprime:
most likely I wont be making a thread.. anything I post related to the 11C update will prob stay in here.

I can already answer your questions now though.

If using a VS985 on 10B...

and if rooted with Stump or ioroot...

and installed Bump'd TWRP...

Then it is 100% safe to manually flash the VS985 11C MODEM BOOT and SYSTEM partitions using TWRP. You can take a look at my "No OTA" thread here for info on how to manually flash boot/modem/system - http://xdaforums.com/lg-g3/development/psa-stop-taking-ota-updates-update-t2909412

Unfortunately Verizon doesn't seem to allow is customers to get KDZ files... so there is no way to break down a KDZ to get the new files.. someone must update and pul them manually. The alternative option to this is to buy the 11C TOT file... which usually costs between $20-25... 1 TOT file helps the entire community.

I've added the boot, aboot and sbl1.imgs from 11C to my folder HERE. Will add modem and the others as I get them. I will not be including system in there... but perhaps someone will post that in this thread or somewhere else on the forum. I will host a TOT file though if one is obtained. Of course the stock 10B files are in the 10B folder if anyone needs those.

Status of 11C:

No root. Only way to have root on 11C is to be previously rooted on 10B then take the 11C OTA update.. and root is kept.

The only other thing that the OTA updates besides modem/system/boot(kernel)... is the bootloader... and right now we're sorta on the fence as to what exactly is going on with the rollback. There is no reason to update the bootloader.. there is no gain from updating it at this time. Yes, Bump is still available even on the 11C bootloader... the issue is that if you get stuck on 11C or another future update and can't downgrade to a rootable firmware version... then even if Bump is available of that bootloader there's no way to write TWRP as your recovery or flash Bump'd kernel due to no root.

Maybe we have a drivers/windows issue here? Perhaps one of you could try installing Windows XP or Windows 7 in a Virtual Machine on your current setup.. and try to restore from within that virtual machine. You can easily download VMPlayer for free or VMWare Workstation Trial and then grab an unregistered/trial copy of Windows 7 direct from microsoft's servers from links such as THIS ONE. Annoying to go through this.. sure.. but may end up taking less time than continuing to try with Windows 8. Just a suggestion of course.
[Verizon LG G3] markfm:
Of the three files you posted, boot is clear. Do aboot and sbl1 correspond to anything safe to install on top over 10b?

Where would one find the tot to buy? I'd be happy to contribute it.

Thanks!
[Verizon LG G3] subhelix:
I'll try it out with a virtual 7 and will report back. Thanks.
[Verizon LG G3] annoyingduck:
PM sent....quick question for you
[Verizon LG G3] autoprime:
aboot and sbl1 are part of the bootloader stack and should not be updated unless its required to get to official lollipop or something (and will most likely lose Bump in the process)

aboot, sbl1, dbi, laf, factory, rpm, tz could all be considered part of the boot stack. Sometimes in specific situations we MAY update the RPM/TZ without the rest.. but that's not the time for that.. and there's no need to flash those now.

TOTs are sold on "black market" usually random Chinese sites with LG server access. I have an account with one site.. but the TOT is not up there yet.
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
looks to me like getting a leaked copy will be faster than buying it. the 10b file was just posted for sale on 10-10.

edit, ninja'd lol
[Verizon LG G3] deathsquad737:
Cried to mom she's going to pay off Verizon and we are going to T-Mobile I think I'll be happier with the g3 there!

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[Verizon LG G3] annoyingduck:
Hang on... May have another option for you brewing...
[Verizon LG G3] subhelix:
Suggestion please? I'm trying virtual 7, copied all my files from the lg flash tool folder over... in which included the proper overwritten MegaLockdll and everything else. Except now when I try to open the Flashtool, it tells me that the MegaLock dll can't be found.
[Verizon LG G3] annoyingduck:
Who's up for testing a 11c downgrade to 10b using a kdz file?

With the aid of my bank account, [MENTION=2684188]autoprime[/MENTION] has kindly done the dirty work of obtaining a 10b kdz file for us and is in the process of preparing it for people to get a hold of. Should be available once the download/upload process is done. For reference, the tool available here is the best way to flash a kdz file: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2797190 . Obviously read the thread a bit, but it has always worked well for me in the past on Windows 8.1 and 7. You'll also want to uninstall/remove any of the other tools used for .tot flashing, as they may conflict. KDZ files are a bit easier to flash, and the tool linked is the easiest one to use. Until then, just wait for his post that its ready to download from the Codefire server.
[Verizon LG G3] subhelix:
I'm down homie.
[Verizon LG G3] irfanazad1986:
Wait for developer's to give best Lollipop update.
[Verizon LG G3] autoprime:
The VS985 10B KDZ is -HERE-.. perhaps this will help with the downgrading.

everyone thank [MENTION=4795150]annoyingduck[/MENTION] for buying the KDZ. Be sure to throw him a few bucks if you can. If it works for those who couldn't downgrade with the TOT.. you should DEFINITELY throw him some $$ to cover the cost on that. a little bit from many people can add up to more than a little bit.

He has posted -HERE- a link on how to use the KDZ file.. which gets flashed in download mode just like the TOT... it's just a different app and some different steps along the way.
[Verizon LG G3] annoyingduck:
No need for anything sent my way, more than happy to donate to the community.

One other thing, be sure to use the latest drivers direct from LG, not any that are linked in the flash tools thread.
[Verizon LG G3] 318sugarhill:
Wow. Thanks for the help to the community. I myself haven't touched the update but I know others will appreciate it. Very generous of you.
[Verizon LG G3] david_hume:
Thank you for your assistance! :D
[Verizon LG G3] DeanGibson:
Allowed OTA, kept root

Previously rooted VS-985-10B w/ IOroot.

No other fancy changes (eg, recovery, bump (whatever that is), frozen services, etc).

Using SuperSU without "Survival mode" enabled.

Allowed OTA update to 11C.

Root preserved, as well as my additions to /system/xbin (eg, busybox and all the links).

Lost USB ADB access, but adbWireless works for that purpose, as does ConnectBot in an emergency. I suspect I can cure this on the PC side, as the phone clearly thinks it is in USB debugging mode. Edit: USB ADB access regained after installation of LG's USB driver file (v2.18)

SuperSU seemed confused in its pop-up messages about which app was just granted root access, so I disabled them all and had them gain it again, and that fixed the messages.

On boot, I no longer get that stupid message "Unfortunately, the VSxxxxxxx service has stopped".

Phone is now much lighter, voice and data is now free, and I can jump buildings in a single bound (OK, I'm kidding about this last one).
[Verizon LG G3] deathsquad737:
I'm down I've flashed kdz on my g2 many times

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[Verizon LG G3] annoyingduck:
Give it a go, and let us no if it works. File has been up for a while.
[Verizon LG G3] deathsquad737:
kdz

ur a beast worked like a charm
[MENTION=2684188]autoprime[/MENTION] thanks again
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
So you guys are confirming 100% you can downgrade back to 10B?

Just checking really... Doesn't effect me. I'm not on stock anyways
[Verizon LG G3] annoyingduck:
Nice!
[Verizon LG G3] deathsquad737:
Yes I'm confirming that you can kdz back to 10b from 11c stock unrooted [MENTION=4795150]annoyingduck[/MENTION] [MENTION=2684188]autoprime[/MENTION] you guys are godsends no more ota ever again

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[Verizon LG G3] skruid:
When you check the com 41, reselect com 41 and it will give you a message about being used on another device blah blah blah, go ahead and select it anyways, and try to do the flashing procces, that is what I had to do and it worked
[Verizon LG G3] subhelix:
I too will confirm that I was able to downgrade finally. Thanks so much.
[Verizon LG G3] deathsquad737:
The kdz method works I'm going to try and kdz back again to see if that changes the modified status back to official like it did with my g2 if that doesn't work I will try and tot back to see if that works will report back

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[Verizon LG G3] netookska05:
I was on 11c I could not get the computer to recognize the phone. I switched to Art just to see how art ran with this new update. Switched back to Dalvik and tried connecting the phone to the computer again and the drivers installed and recognized the phone. I connected the flash tool and went into the port driver to see if I could change the port to 41 and I was able to. I then downgraded to the 10B with no problem and rooted with stump after that and reinstalled bump and restored my backup. Hope this helps!!
[Verizon LG G3] autoprime:
ok cool.. glad everyone is now able to downgrade!

But.. I still recommend not taking the OTA.. and only manually updating System, Boot, Modem if anything at all. See thread -HERE- on that.

Still need someone rooted on 11C to dump and post the 11C SYSTEM and MODEM image for everyone. Dumping DBI, LAF, FACTORY, RPM and TZ would complete the collection for 11C updated files (bootloader stack). You won't want to flash them.. but it's good to have them for reference if anything. I would upload them to the my Codefire folder like all the other variants -HERE-

Despite now being able to downgrade.. there IS something with anti-rollback still going on in the bootloader.. this OTA started something.. perhaps finished in the next OTA. It's possible they're even setting something up that defines that this is the last update before Lollipop.. and maybe taking the official Lollipop OTA will have rollback stopping you from going back to KK? Just tossing ideas out though.

If 11C update really was the full anti-rollback update... many people would have locked themselves out of root.. next time possibly Bump. I'm glad this was only a practice test... the overall grade on reaction to this OTA is "F" :p
[Verizon LG G3] rfarrah:
I am taking your advice and just waiting for some kind soul to send you the files you've requested. Thanks!
[Verizon LG G3] annoyingduck:
I think your correct with the Lollipop theory. It only makes sense with so much changing. With ART being the default in the new android version, could that explain the bootloader "upgrade" that is present in 11c? An example here is that when my original nexus 7 went from JB to KK a new bootloader was included in that process (that needed to be manually flashed for non-stock users). It makes sense, and very well may not be them trying to fool the current exploits, but just what needs to be done...

Who knows, but definitely a "F" for how this all played out!! Right now, there is nothing to keep development down on this device. Between the tot and new kdz method, we are covered. Hopefully new/replacement devices won't ship with lollipop installed....that would guarantee a nice long development life for this device, and keep me LG happy!!
[Verizon LG G3] protivakid:
So for those of us who are stock on 11C we can use this to go completely back to 10b and then root using the normal methods from there?
[Verizon LG G3] th3bl3d:
I am rooted on 11c, if you need files send me directions and i'll be more than happy to get them for you guys.
[Verizon LG G3] ohlin5:
This is what people are reporting, though I have not (and won't be ;) ) trying to verify lol
[Verizon LG G3] annoyingduck:
That is correct, you can completely downgrade back to 10b if you took the ota regardless of root or unlock prior. The KDZ method is far simpler, uses one single file (instead of a .tot and a .dll files) and the program I linked is fool proof, easier to use and doesn't require any port modification. So as of right now today, you can safely update via the OTA. THE NEXT UPDATE WILL LIKELY BE A VERY, VERY BAD IDEA TO TAKE!! But for now, your in the clear....

DO NOT TAKE ANY UPDATES FROM HERE ON OUT IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR CUSTOM STATUS!! 11C Is now fully downgradeable to 10b.
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
I want to say it's post 207. Tapa numbers post backwards, but I think that's what I quoted the other night.

Sent from my VS985 4G
[Verizon LG G3] burkett375:
I haven't taken the update, but a question. Does the update include "Advanced Calling"? I'm sure we would have heard about it with great fan-fare if it did, but just curious...
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
home now :)

here is the post.

we also need the system pulled. i believe you would just replace the 2 places that say modem, with system.

thanks
[Verizon LG G3] IndianaBond:
I hope I did this right. Go here or here to get the modem image file. It's name is modem-11C.img
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
tyvvm

can you replace the 2 times it says "modem" with "system", and pull that for us too please.

thanks :)
[Verizon LG G3] subhelix:
Nope.
[Verizon LG G3] IndianaBond:
What does the system.img file do or help with?
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
it will give us the new system without updating.

autoprime actually asked for it to be pulled, im just trying to keep the word flowing until someone pulls it :)

thanks
[Verizon LG G3] IndianaBond:
@[URL="http://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=4132606"]bwen diorD,

It's uploading. I'll be afk until tomorrow morning. Looks like it'll take a while before it's done.
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
thanks :)
[Verizon LG G3] wes53177:
Ok

I see we can revert back. Enough about that. Let's get back to the ota.
[Verizon LG G3] rp201:
definitely agreeing with you here. My conspiracy theory on it is since there have been no updates since it's release that I know of, could you imagine a nasty bug and many phones going down and no way of recovery and you have to wait for the fix for something stable. everyone would be returning their phones to vzw and grabbing a new non LG phone and extras for their troubles. Closing doors requires great testing on LG's part. Not to knock them too hard, but they released a pretty buggy OS from what I'm used to from other manufacturers(Samsung,Moto) As it goes, Manpower/Resources, Delivery Date , and Quality. Any two will define the third. But on a good note, you will have to pry my G3 phone from my cold dead hands. lol
[Verizon LG G3] skruid:
So I was on Jasmine Rom 2.0 and I got a notification to upgrade softeatw, this notification came up as a toast and you had to accept and agree to the terms, and those term it was mentioned that this update would make it so up could not rollback software. The toast said that this update will pretty much put an end to down grading your software and that were New features on the way. Just wanted to let you know that not being able to downgrade will probably be in the next ota. There will be no more it's taken be me unless done manually. I restored a backup and am back on bumped rooted 11c firmware, now to freeze System updater. Don't take any updates ota's after 11c, probably won't be able to rollback if you do. Just want to let you all know what is coming in the future for us.
[Verizon LG G3] sic0048:
This was just a minor update with little to no real benefits for the end user and still far too many just blindly accepted it. Imagine what is going to happen when a Lollipop 5.0 OTA update is released. It will be like the siren's song and catch a lot of people on the wrong side of root/bump availability.
[Verizon LG G3] toy028:
Has anyone flashed the new modem on 10B yet? Did you notice any improvements? I'm thinking about flashing it soon myself.
[Verizon LG G3] THEbigSWEEN:
I've flashed it, and though it's only been a couple of hours and haven't left the house since flashing, it seems like my connection at home is a little stronger. Normally wouldn't get LTE unless I was outside smoking but have gotten it in the house now. Not sure if Flashify flashes modem.img, but anyone else too lazy to install via ADB I used this method HERE See: "How-To Manually Flash/Update Device w/ System.img, Boot.img and Modem.img" thanks to the one and only, autoprime.
[Verizon LG G3] sebastianraven:
I'm rooted with no custom ROM or boot loader. Did not break root.
[Verizon LG G3] 318sugarhill:
I used the flash2 method here to update modem.img as well. Too soon to report a difference. Can any post what the old baseband was.... Forgot to write it down before flashing.... It's like a gazillion digits long!
[Verizon LG G3] spotmark:
Edit.
[Verizon LG G3] markfm:
Is this the sequence to install the 11c boot.IMG on a10b phone?

Put it at the root of your internal sdcard

Launch terminal emulater

Input the following three lines in terminal emulator:

1. Su

2. dd if=/sdcard/boot.img of=/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/boot

3. Reboot

To flash modem.IMG, would the second terminal emulator line change to:

dd if=/sdcard/modem.img of=/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/modem

Thanks!
[Verizon LG G3] rfarrah:
Where did you find the modem/radio file? Is there an 11C flashable file yet? (Did I miss it?) :D
[Verizon LG G3] ljmunz:
Modem Here

How-To Manually Flash/Update Device w/ System.img, Boot.img and Modem.img
[Verizon LG G3] 318sugarhill:
Thanks. It definitely updated the modem then. Hopefully it will give me a slight increase at work. It's a cinder block fortress so all reception is bad.... But some phones have been better than others. HTC always got the best signal here with with their radios over Samsung and LG. I'm finding the G3 to be the worst (in my building) then the others.

Then again I used to be able to force the others into 4g only with a app that doesn't work on the G3
[Verizon LG G3] RED ZMAN:
I hope somebody makes flashible versions of these, I get so nervous doing anything with adb commands even in terminal. Bricked my g1 way back when and somehow brought it back up. The nervous about it ever since. Lol
[Verizon LG G3] BladeRunner:
Just flashed the new modem. Maybe 1-2dB better on 4G 1x is about 4dB worse. Hard to really tell at this point however.

---------- Post added at 09:31 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:30 AM ----------

The "how to manually flash" section here: http://xdaforums.com/lg-g3/development/psa-stop-taking-ota-updates-update-t2909412 essntially makes them flashable in twrp.

For those that are wondering the flash2*.zip executes a script that executes the adb commands for you. The reason you need to create a flash2 folder and name the images sytem.img, boot.img and modem.img is that is what is written into the script. If you you place the flash2 folder somewhere else or rename any of the files improperly the script simply won't find them and will return an error.
[Verizon LG G3] ljmunz:
It is flashable, follow the instructions from AutoPrime.

1. Download the modem file here from IndianaBond and rename it modem.img

2. Download Flash2Modem.zip from AutoPrime here.

3. Make a new folder on your internal sdcard called: flash2

4. Download and place Flash2Modem.zip on your phone. Internal/external sdcard.

5. Stick modem.img into the /sdcard/flash2/ folder.

6. Create backup's in TWRP.

7. In TWRP, flash Flash2Modem.zip to install your updated images.
[Verizon LG G3] spotmark:
I've tried this method twice now, and my baseband has not changed.

Edit-I got it. I didn't name the flash2 folder properly. I was using a capital F.
[Verizon LG G3] IndianaBond:
I'll leave the modem image file up on dropbox for a while. It might be easier for some people to get to.