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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dano1282:
I have had mine for almost 24 hrs and absolutely no lag whatsoever. Downloaded the AnTuTuBenchmark app and it DESTROYED the top score of the highest rated phone in the app which was the HTC M8. Since I work at Verizon..I had a coworker downloaded and run the benchmark test on his Note 4 and it came in around 2-3 spots below the M8. Love the QHD display...the only thing that keeps this phone from being perfect is the lack of simultaneous using data and voice use on LTE that's only temporary though...but otherwise..I have ZERO complaints. Absolutely crushes my DroidMaxx by comparison.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jamezr:
Apple Insider is the most biased site on the internet against Android. Every Time a new Android flagship phone comes out.....guess what they release an article saying how bad it is. The Apple Kool-Aid is strong with that bunch. I think with you as well. Notice how you got in a "how good my iPhone" is in an Android discussion.

Well guess what.... The Samsung Galaxy Note 4 was voted the best screen on any smartphone....including the IP6+

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note4_ShootOut_1.htm#Table
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jmm22:
What did it score? Genuinely curious? My note 4 scored 47,000+ but I'm considering the Droid turbo before my 14 days expires
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] redddog:
One of the things I loved about the Maxx was how they refused to chase performance specs for the sake of it. The quad processors were already dominating the flagships and they introduced a dual core and said "screw you, look at the performance." It was pretty impressive.

This seems like a total step backwards. I'm sure the performance is awesome. But if chasing specs turns out to be a detriment to performance, it seems to me like a sad development.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Shadowstare:
Just root the phone he says.

Like its as easy as snapping your fingers. Hilarious. On this board, when a root is possible, i'm SURE there will be a post about it. For now, just enjoy the phone.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sincerity:
no lag here too...MUCH snappier than Note 4 I had. Battery life I must say so far this morning isn't wowing me though.. It's really good..just not holy crap wow @ the battery life like i expected. Maybe once it settles a few days.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mobilehavoc:
Agree I think there is definitely something keeping the phone awake too much. But without root, there's no way to find the culprit :(
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] CrazyRussianXDA:
And might never be one, very possible.

Yup, I was the same way.

"Will someone who roots the phone please leave a review of the phone at 1920x1080 as far as performance and battery life?" - LOL. C'mon, just root the phone and post your review about 1920x1080 LOLZ
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sincerity:
3hr 40 mins on charge...86% 21m screen time :/

took a bunch of photos that auto backup'd to google so maybe that was it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cpufrost:
Almost 49K here, wow monster! LOL

My custom M8 (Viper 2.5, Flar Elemental X kernel o/c to 2.7GHz, etc.) is nearly as good around 48K!

This phone is definitely faster than the G3 I had and the display isn't artificially sharpened either. I do wish I could turn the saturation down though.

It does have typical AMOLED orange shift (red screen looks orange-ish off axis) but not as bad as the S5/Note 3 was.

Note 4 is going to be a lag fest with Touchwiz. TMO users are lucky with unlocked bootloaders.

I sold my Note 3 though. Just done with GIANT phones LOL. Otherwise I'd have a Note 4 as well as a Nexus 6.

The "turbo" is a nice compromise with top of the line specs in a smaller package. Call it the little engine that could.

If they would hurry up and get tethering and sim voice/data working! I got 14 days on this as well. I've never paid a restocking fee to ATT for a legitimate reason, not sure how VZW is but not having sim voice/data in 2014 on a top of the line device is beyond ridiculous!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] qwerty12601:
Obviously your bias is so skewed you CANT read things subjectively, and see what you want to see.

A . Where did i say "how good my iphone is"? I dont own an iphone, never have owned one, never will. I thoroughly dislike iphones. Ive been on here for 5 years, bern through probably 10 android devices during that perios. But when you see what you want to see that doesnt matter right? ;)

I never said anything about the note 4's screen. I havent seen it, but im sure id prefer it over the iphone. Im an amoled guy, currently with a moto x 2014. But i dont know why you even brought that up. I was taking about PERFORMANCE and quite a few tests put the iphone 6 up top in many catagories. No big deal, would never make me buy one but its the truth. I can give credit where credit is due. Im a huge android fan, but you make us look bad ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jamezr:
Nope sorry........calling it as I see it.......

You managed the trifecta! :)

You managed to post something negative about an Android phone, Quoting a famously biased Apple fanboy site then get in a little bump for the iPhone! NIIIIIICE....your friends at Apple Insider will no doubt love you for it.

You post negative FUD....while the rest of the people in the thread that ACTUALLY HAVE the phone say just the opposite! Troll much?

First FUD

Second FUD quoting a very anti Android site:

Then manage to plug how great the iPhone is while putting down a new Android phone............Trifecta!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] KenNashua:
It's a 3900 mAh battery, so when people are getting 8 or 12 hours on a similar flagship phone with a 3000 mAh battery, we're only talking 30% more power. That 8-12 hours becomes 10.4-15.6 hours. The 2 day doesn't pan out unless those same phones are getting 18 hours of life. Given that both the 801 and 805 are 28nm processes, there's not going to be appreciable power saving in the architecture except for the H.265 decoding introduced in the 805 -- however most people aren't playing videos for the majority of their on-time.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mobilehavoc:
Agree 100%. I have a Moto360 attached all the time which doesn't help and I have lots of stuff running on the phone. I'll be happy if I can get 15-17 hrs of standby and 3-4 hours of SOT. If I can't get it with this phone I give up.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Dave61bug:
This. I switched from a G3 to a 64Gb Turbo and Its way faster and smoother than the G3. No lag issues at all.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] qwerty12601:
Hmmmm, maybe you need to invest in an eye test. You dont see very well at all ;) Only post there of mine is the comment about there iphone 6 having the smoothest graphics. Other 2 quotes aren't me buddy.

Again, been here for 5 years, currently have 3 android phones in my rotation, contribute useful info and never called anyone a troll. Youre obviouslg young, and incapable of subjective information.

Its ok though, i now understand who im dealing with. Ill speak slowly and use small words, you might catch on!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dhinged:
Sometimes you have to go to the other side to get details the pro-side won't give you, and besides, this was the first and only article I found (when I searched) that went in-depth into the phone's processor and real-world tests. None of the Android/tech sites have done it. I actually didn't even notice it was appleinsider until I got home and fully read the article.

I prefer in-depth technical reviews and tests over just some manufacturer or app benchmarks, and I usually rely on Tom's Hardware, ExtremeTech, Ars Technica, or Anandtech to do these reviews, but this was the first and only. I'd love to get any more in-depth technical reviews and real-world tests from any other site, because you can't always trust the benchmarks, and my own experience belied the other reviews I'd read.

And no, I'm not an Apple fanboy. I've never owned an iPhone, I've only used a Motorola Droid, Motorola Droid RAZR MAXX, and Motorola Moto X as my phones. I'm probably a Motorola fanboy, and I loved the look of the Droid Turbo as opposed to most reviews I was hearing that disliked it and called it old-fashioned (and I prefer the capacitive buttons as well, which are apparently not popular either). I simply can't ignore my own eyes and an "opposing" review just because it's from an Apple fan site.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] qwerty12601:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8559/iphone-6-and-iphone-6-plus-preliminary-results

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/apple-iphone-6-gpu-benchmarks,27668.html

Ignore him, he's obviously ignorant. Heres a few reviews from some of the ones you mentioned...

The main theory here is that we're reslly not ready for QHD. Despite all the talk it seems processors are still struggling to keep up with these pixel dense displays, apps aren't optimized for it etc. Id love to see how this device performs with a 1080p screen.

Maybe a software update down the road can help optimization, however it seems manufacturers are rushing to put these displays on devices and not letting the rest of the technology catch up. Wait for the lollipop update and lets see some reviews on how the nexus 6 handles it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] qwerty12601:
Have you taken a look at the moto x or galaxy s5 amoled displays? They're pretty crisp. QHD is definitely not a 'necessity' on this device. Especially at the compromise of performance and battery life.

But you're right about benchmarks. Its all a matter of how the user perceives the device to perform. Problem is when someone mentions in their own real world experience a problem, people are quick to jump and refer to benchmark results to refute their claims. Kind of a rock and a hard place.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] doitright:
Maybe I should clarify that a little bit. The Droid Turbo has an RGBG amoled display. The moto X (v1) has an RGBRGB, which is more honest in its resolution claims. The v2 and s5 are RGBG and look horrid. Horrid is, of course, a relative term. If you went to that from an older amoled, like a samsung relay, then it will be relatively beautiful. If you look at any RGBG after an LG Hammerhead, it will look like junk. Well maybe not these new QHD's, but certainly comparing a "same" resolution lcd to an RGBG AMOLED. They are just on a completely different playing field.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] qwerty12601:
You think the moto x 2014 and galaxy s5 displays look horrid? You must have some insane eyes! Lol.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mattlach:
Don't the models in the store suffer from having the "demo mode" running on them?

I have not noticed any lag what so ever. Chrome is buttery smooth for me.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dhinged:
Here's another article describing the issues with the Snapdragon 805:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...-to-the-best-Android-phones-out-there_id60932

Android phones really should be running 64-bit processors by now.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
I wasn't impressed at first. But I am one of the few that took the day one update. Then tody changed it to art. Took forever. But once it was done its BLAZING fast. Like, fast like nothing I've seen. I cant get it to lag.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] geoff5093:
How many reboots did it take before it stopped optimizing applications?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
One. I read all the bad results but I tried it anyways. Went flawless besides how long optimizing it took
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] J.Guido85:
I had the Moto X 2014 and now the Turbo and personally the Turbo is faster. I don't know what you are talking about.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] barondebxl:
Maybe you don't notice but the G3 definitely lags.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] qwerty12601:
Lags like crazy. So much so that my girlfriend noticed and exchanged for the HTC one, she described it as the screen being slow and Skippy, lol. But the lag issue with the g3 is well known.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] barondebxl:
And yet people still wanna deny it smh
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] geoff5093:
When I first got my G3 I installed Nova, rooted, and debloated, so it's been fine for me.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] donsmith1964:
It never ceases to amaze me the number of people that insist on putting down the latest phones immediately. The phone came out on Thursday. So far I really like mine. 6-8 hours of screen on time easily with heavy first weekend playing use. I don't see any lag. It had only been 3 days! Give people a chance to actually use the phone.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] INCREMENTAL:
Is ur screenshots posted, if not let's see them, 6hrs I can believe but right now no one hasn't even got close to 8hrs. Ain't no one putting it down, were just trying to figure stuff out. Paying $650 to $700 on a phone I like to make sure all the things I'm looking for is there, battery life is one of them and right now its not holding up to its claims. I love moto and the droid series and want this phone to be my next but right now it ain't looking good.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] donsmith1964:
I'll take one next time I get it. Had 7+ yesterday but did not take a screen shot. Probably depends on if you are gaming or just using the net. My point still stands that they are to many negative comments before things are really known.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mikera67:
Drained the battery until it died, plugged in turbo charger, after boot reported 3 percent, set timer for fifteen minutes, charged up to 21 percent, and the back is warm but not terrible.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dhinged:
Technical breakdown of Retina display

Here's a great technical breakdown of what makes the most sense for screen size, resolution, and PPI (Pixels Per Inch) on a phone:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7743/the-pixel-density-race-and-its-technical-merits

Basically people still notice a difference in clarity between ~300 PPI and ~400 PPI, but above that, most people won't notice, and >600 PPI is basically useless. With an increase from 330 PPI to 470 PPI, there's a 20% difference in power draw (which can of course be offset by hardware/software efficiencies). The Nexus 6 is in a better position than the Droid Turbo for Quad HD, but my point is that Quad HD is not worth the trade-off from Full HD on a ~5" phone screen unless the manufacturer and software developers put in some pretty heavy compensations for efficiency.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dhinged:
$3000 premium phone has 1920x1080 for 5" screen

Not even Russian oligarchs are stupid enough to put Quad HD on a 5" phone screen:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Gres...de-Android-smartphone-that-costs-3000_id62369
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Xelios029:
It's definitely possible. I was on track to reaching it today until I plugged it into a charger. 2 hours of screen time, made it to 81%.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] burmjohn:
Always going to have haters. Jealously makes people do dumb things.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] INCREMENTAL:
Cool id like to see them, I'm not being negative just making sure its the phone I want, trust me I want to love this phone and brag about it so much just a little iffy right now.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] qwerty12601:
Lol, so anytime someone points out issues with a phone they're jealous?

Its called being subjective. Lots of us pay full price unsubsidized for devices. Its nice to get an unbiased report/opinion of something. Sometimes people get something, and feel the need to defend it even if they're wrong ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] burmjohn:
Didn't say that. But you keep on being subjective. Haha
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] qwerty12601:
lol omg haha!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
On art mode it is much quicker but at first from boot up of converting to art mode it is laggy but because it still is optimizing the apps. Later on its smooth as can be and the stats here I took yesterday are phenomenal
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
Only thing that lags is the front facing camera.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] donsmith1964:
I didn't have time to get it to 7+ hours, but you can set it is going to make it. Who really had their screen on over 5 hours in a typical day?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bahayman:
Do you have the .15 update installed? I haven't updated yet and I don't think I'm getting great battery life...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
I have updated and didn't notice any difference. The update is only 21mb, once this phone gets rooted the battery life will be unbeatable to be able to remove all Verizon bloatware with titanium and greenify all apps
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] donsmith1964:
I do have the update installed. I haven't done anything to tweak battery life yet. I use auto brightness just add it came out of the box. I think a lot had to do with what you are doing and signal strength.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wingdo:
Coming from an S4 I am blown away by how much faster this phone is. Chrome is laggy by nature, I have Dolphin installed and Chrome disabled. Fast as can be. It's a fine line we all ask these manufacturers to walk. We want oodles of pixels, but the higher res the screen is, the more work the processors need to do. Less pixels = better performance if everything else is equal. More pixels more processor work.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
You are right and for me the fastest browser is wither javelin or cm browser from the creators of clean master. This phone surely is unbelievable and the amoled screen isn't too over saturated like the galaxy phones.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] troglodytez:
I got a turbo recently and have to say I'm disappointed. I have to put on encryption for work, which might not help, but I get lag quite frequently. I have an iPad air 2 to compare to, which is incredibly fast. The turbo just feels a little disconnected from my touch compared to even my previous droid, the maxx. I was really hoping to like this one, but no luck unless lollipop is a magic fix.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
It is the encryption. Its not lollipop bad performance-wise, but you do take a hit. I took about 15mb/s performance hit. That said, its still faster than any other encrypted Android phone out there. There is no such thing as no performance hit with encryption.

People really shouldn't compare iOS to Android. They work differently, act differently, and perform differently.

It is easy to have performance when your home screen is your app drawer. My app drawer is perfectly smooth too.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Anyone can tell if a game is running at 60,30,or 24... Is that a joke?

Sent from my XT1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
The performance on this phone is flawless. Why on earth do people expect more? Seriously then just carry a gaming pc or ps4 for gaming. Seriously its ridiculous the expectations there is now a days. Seriously what is there to expect for a mobile phone that isn't meant for just gaming but ummmn let's see hmmm everything else! Photos, movies, calling, texting, music, and so much more. I bet eventually someone will post that there is input lag and isn't under a milesecond like gaming monitors. Ahahaha.

Those experiencing lag then don't know how to use and android to always be at peak performance all the time 24/7
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rglebien:
I'm a frame rate nazi and even I don't notice any lag on the turbo. The model you had must have had something wrong with it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wiggz:
I have to disagree here and agree with the OP. I notice lag simply transitioning through android app drawer screens..major lag. I grabbed Apex Launcher to see if that improves matters and it does, but only a little.

I'm sure that something, somewhere is causing this issue because the sheer specifications of this device suggest there should be no issue.

I'm wondering if there are any settings I'm missing? I've changed animation to 0.5 in Devleoper Options to be make it snappier too.

Compared to my Oneplus One, the Droid Turbo, whilst specification wise is much better, is lagging awfully behind...shame.

I want to improve things so might reset.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
It is probably something you have installed.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] nvsocr7:
I've had zero lag; this phone is smooth as butter. and I'm coming from a rooted s3. You really have to disable all of the verizon apps, they constantly run and take up resources. I did an immediate factory reset then disabled all the apps. Those animations are there to fill the space between you clicking on the app and it actually showing up. While it may feel snappier, it may also feel like lag(this is why ios feels "smoother" than android, their animation times are fairly high). I've used both 1x and 0.5x and there's no lag on either for me.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
I am continually impressed with the turbos performance. Every phone I've ever had felt like it needed to be rebooted at least once a week to run smooth. This just continues to run great. If your having lag try to stay away from any task manager type app. I've always found letting android handle ram and task management to be better then any third party app.

On a side note, this is also the first time in a while I've left the animation speed alone. I actually enjoy the subtle animations. Probably why I'm looking forward to a lollipop, I'm a stickler for eye candy =)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] MERSVO86:
I dont notice a lag. Messed with several phones and didnt see a lag. But again thats me and what i saw.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
My score: 50,116.

Moto Maxx (XT1225), which is the "international" version of the Droid Turbo (XT1254). Same hardware, same specs. Moto Maxx has unlockable bootloader, we've already rooted and have TWRP custom recovery. Running on AT&T LTE. Has three of four of AT&T's LTE bands enabled out of the box (the 3 major ones) and has two of three T-mobile's LTE bands (the two major ones). PLUS,

ALL the LTE bands can be enabled, since we have root

. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] smokie11:
I hope that those that find the Turbo so disappointing , flawed or lacking have already returned then and received your money back or exchanged for a better phone that makes you happy. I mean that, to spend your hard earned money on something you don't like is terrible. If you are posting here opinions based on a Turbo you do not personally own, please don't go away mad...just go away. Thank you.

Some people like numbers, they come here and talk about numbers that prove the Iphone is better, so I will give you numbers (to me they are meaningless) show me numbers better than my Turbo, we will play the game your way with numbers. :D
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
I just took this test again and still and baffled of how some users complain about the performance. This phone not only lives up to its turbo name for charging but also in power within the cpu. I recommend whoever reads this to use stools and see their cpu usage. Mine always stays deep sleep or 300mhz screen off no matter how many apps I have open.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Eh, look at CPU-Z.

I don't think you will find it sitting at 300 all the time.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
Hmm oh okay ill get the app and compare then post both screen shots of each app results from a day of use.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
CPU-Z is real time.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
I just saw that but it doesn't show me how through the day how the cpu has been. Stools does this.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
My point was, you do not stay at 300 all the time. CPU-Z shows this.