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[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Teslor:
Confused - a bit at least

Hi, im using the Deodexed+Rooted build and its realy nice, works great, no bugs or problems.

Now i wanted to install busybox and it showed me an error occured.. i checked my apps and saw that superuser from clockwork mod seems to be installed from default as sytemapp...

i flashed the update file from OP wiped davlik/cache and after reboot same thing... so im confused..

did i miss something while flashing? or will i have to restart from zero and flash again? or is there another solution?

Ok after uninstalling and installing again, it works now sry... :fingers-crossed:

Also, i have a great respect for the time and work the devs invest in their ROM's and im very happy they make this work.

Now i have 2 Questions that i cant find directly answered anywhere.

1. Is there a difference in building ROM's for x86 based devices, or could i follow the usual tutorials (except nedded tools etc.)?

2. Does anywhere exist a kind of "minimum" ROM?

i mean simply everything it needs to work, nothing more?

shure i know certain apps etc are needed, but id really appreciate a ROM with no personal touch, only absolut needet stuff (in case of doubt leaved as known from original) but nothin more? so i can (and have to) install what i want without need of uninstall this or that...?

oh and a third question, sry....

is there a dummy way to edit the "apps included" (sry my english is bad) of an custom rom? kinda take this app... change this app with that one or so?

im really new to all this, so sry if some parts seem dumb questionig
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bbe.fbb:
My P5200 always Rebooted

Help me...

I have installed my P5200 with this ROM using TWRP v2.7.1.0. But there is problem, my device always rebooted when i open some app like clean master and Photoshop Touch. What should i do to fix this problem ?
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ToneyP:
problem

i installed but when i come to reboot it tells me no OS installed, what did i do wrong?
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diegopinos:
param.bin

good contribution friend, I'll try.

friend I tell him that I have a problem with sangung galaxy tab 3 GT-P5200 model, which you mistakenly change the file or param.lfs param.bin. If I'm not wrong this file is bootable from the tablet. I will please you send to my email diegopinos04@gmail.com. thanks friend
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] xlr8shun:
FYI: I have sent 2 messages now, that have been group txt messages from an iphone (don't know if that matters) but when I uncheck "group message" and type my message and press send, it sends to the group.

anyone else noticing this?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] soraxd:
it does matter that it was sent from an iPhone. think of it like a bulk email sent to you, if you click reply it replies to all that iPhone originally sent to. the easiest way is to just start a new thread, so go to your Messaging app, click new, and write that person.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] xlr8shun:
so, are you saying that the "group message" check box in my txt msg application will only work for txt messages sent from an android phone (and maybe windows phone?)

or perhaps that checkbox is just not working as intended?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] soraxd:
group message and multimedia messages are two different things. group message sends multiple sms to multiple people, and when you respond checking the box it will reply to that same group of people in the sms. when you send an mms (iphones way of handling group texts) its all contacts included in one mms (email). mms are emails, thats why you have things like attachments. it's also why if you email yournumber@att.mms.net youll be able to email your phone directly as an mms text.

so you replied all to all: 1 of your contacts, that 1 contact being a group mms sent from that iphone.

yes it will be different getting a message from a blackberry or windows or android phone. you can actually turn a group sms into an mms group by attaching a pic to it or anything else to it.

dont forget if they dont have data they cant see the mms tho.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eireusa:
Hey was going to start flashing note 10.1 8010, but it seems lots of people stuck in bootloops with no answers whats happening there?

Has this always being happening with tabs?

Will a nandroid backup not help these probs, but of course they can't boot in to recovery so what then?

Just started flashing a little while back with my phone it has been great.

But now seeing all these bootloop probs has me worried, always felt save with nandroid backup titiaum backup never taught about not getting to recovery dread that taught:fingers-crossed:( but hey i am just a newbie i'm sure there is fixes right.:laugh:;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrismin13:
I would probably stay away from anything related to modding with this tablet. It looks very unstable with a lot of bugs. I am currently running hyperdrive rom and although it's lagging A LOT and I want desperly kitkat I am not upgrading or changing roms. Just trying to make the most out of what I have. So if you're running stock I would recommend that you keep it as it is so that you can have your warranty and your updates. And if you're lagging very much then it seems to me that AOSP based roms is the only way to go, but that has issues as well. It's best that you wait for most issues to be resolved.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erica_renee:
Safe WITH Caution I would SAY..

I Think The biggest issue with people having issues when flashing this Device or any other Is not paying attention to and Following the Instructions. With that said there is some Risk of course. As far as what to flash. That would depend on what you are trying to get out of your Device.

Now for Flashing the Note 8010 with the New KK Rom and Leaked Boot-Loader for n8010 (I have 8013 so does not apply to me ). You need to understand about the boot-loader issue with flashing the new boot loader. GNOBO Rom i think will be your best bet as i do not think it changes your Boot- Loader. Making you able to go back. But of Course always take a Backup and store it in safe place.

Good Luck and Happy Reading..
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eireusa:
I just rooted the note 8010 a couple of days back but i think that's as far as i will go for now. But is'nt it great that guys are willing to take there time out of there day to keep these older devices alive with these roms:D I have rooted and flashed my daughter's and son's sg3 i9305 with S5 Elite Lite ROM from MaHo and kids are delighted they think they have an sg5 :D It might be along time till they really get one ha ha, Hope they don't let note 8010 die its a nice device. Anyway cheers guys.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] TheBiles:
I turned off auto HDR, and I still have to hold the camera steady for like a second after capturing a shot or else it will be blurry. Is there any way to enable a faster shutter speed?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] fatasian:
HDR by definition is taking at least 3 individual photos to capture and combine. This is the delay you are experiencing. IMHO it should only be used for static images. Anything with movement is not a good application for HDR. source, I'm a photographer.

In terms of manual controls, I've not found any for the turbo cam app. Boo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] qwerty12601:
says he has HDR off. Still experiencing
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] TheBiles:
Like I said, HDR is off. Source: I'm also a photographer.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Restola:
Hoping this is a bug that gets fixed. The 2014 x is quite a bit faster.

I'm sort of guessing/hoping that moto is putting energy into the new camera stuff for L rather than optimizing for kitkat.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] CoreyWillWhat:
Have you tried changing the aspect ratio? Switching to ART runtime? Trying a different camera app?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Restola:
I haven't done art, but ive done the others.

the camera is basically useless indoors unless your subject is stationary.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Stevez48:
Agreed...For me it was too much as this is my main camera when out and about with my toddler. My S5 still takes better picture for now, so had to return the Turbo..>Will definitely keep an eye on updates etc, because other than that, this phone is beautiful...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Kayak83:
Really hoping this gets fixed soon as well. The camera is pretty much worthless as is because of the shutter lag. I tried other camera apps from the market as well and the issue persists.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] krabman:
In fairness I think the N5 camera was worse at release... Source: Someone that knows next to nothing about photography and has low needs and expectations but isn't satisfied with the offering here. :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] swboland:
Have you tried using the Google camera app, from the Play Store? I've heard that it has more features and performs better than Moto's camera app.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Ally Android:
The camera has the ability to take photos without the shutter delay. This is noticeable when you click and hold to take multi photos. Only the first image has a delay and the rest are pretty fast. Hopefully, a software update will solve the single/first photo issue.

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/general/camera-touch-hold-multi-photo-option-t2965656
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Kayak83:
I tried the google camera app from the play store and the problem persists. Also tried every setting in the app on/off. How does a phone of this caliber have shutter lag?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Mattish13:
If you're trying all the settings, try the advanced settings on the moto camera too and report back.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2884035

sent from my droid turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Kayak83:
Not seeing anything that helps shutter speed. Tried a few settings and searched the thread but no improvements to shutter speed/lag anywhere to be found. Hopefully a Lollipop update will "fix."
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] timofcourse:
Right there with you. Its so much worse than my old GS3. My number one complaint with an otherwise fantastic phone.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] adrynalyne:
Don't do ART. That has nothing to do with anything here.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] adrynalyne:
Last year's X and Droids had similar issues, from slowness to colors. They were fixed in future updates.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] dbornack:
I'm not seeing this problem. Very responsive for me.

I did take the OTA today though.. I didn't see a changelog, but figured it was just for Advanced LTE Calling..
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Kayak83:
There was no OTA update today.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] dbornack:
Sorry for confusion.. I bought phone today.. I was told one came out this week when I purchased.. I took it right away. Figured it was the Advanced VoLTE
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] MacDroid:
This solution works for me!

Have you tried the app Camera Zoom Fx? It has a burst mode which works great! No shutter lag! Not to mention other great features. But I do like the photos my Turbo takes. Crisp and sharp and lots of mega pixels for cropping. Oveall, takes some very impressive images. But if I'm following along a fast moving kid or pet...read below!

Seriously, get a real camera! Basic SLRs or mirrorless cameras are small, affordable, and blow away the best smartphone cameras (including the iPhone). Friends are always marveling at my photos. The secret? Take lots and lots and lots and lots of photos (easier with a real camera), take lots of photos, delete the bad ones, take lots of photos, shoot RAW (easier with a real camera), take lots of photos, post process in Lightroom (easy to use and worth every penny is you're even the tiniest bit serious about the quality of your photos). And did I mention, take lots of photos (easier with a real camera)!

Please, follow my advice. You will thank me for it!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] TheBiles:
Believe it or not, I'm not always carrying my 5D Mark III in my pocket when I see some random thing I want to snap a photo of so I can send it to someone. Phone cameras have a very specific purpose: instantly sharable photos that don't need to be the best quality. The problem comes in when the camera is so bad that it is almost unusable in everything but the perfect conditions. This is my issue with the Turbo camera at the moment.

I use the 5D when I actually want to take good photos to share at a later time.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] MacDroid:
Please, follow my advice. You will thank me for it![/QUOTE]

The Turbo camera is so bad? I really don't think so! I consider myself a very decent photographer, albeit an amateur. The Turbo had been taking great photos for me.

Not the place for a photography discussion, but the beast that is the Canon 5D Mark III is not a good comparison. I actually sold all my Nikon stuff a few years ago and went micro 4/3. My little Panasonic GF1/ 1.7 20mm goes everywhere with me. Size does matter! Even a micro 4/3 sensor blows away the iPhone!

Regarding, "Phone cameras have a very specific purpose: instantly sharable photos that don't need to be the best quality." The Turbo can take some good video. You can always do a grab a frame shot! Anyway, try the burst mode in Camera Zoom.

Overall, I love my Turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Kayak83:
I also have a SLR, but obviously I don't carry it around with me everywhere I go. I understand the argument for people to get a real camera for photography, but nobody is pretending to use their Turbo for real photography.

Is it asking too much for my camera phone to take the bulk of my pictures in 2014?

Anyway, I'm downloading the 235MB update now and HOPE it's fixed...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] opus1269:
IMO, after the Advanced Calling OTA, the shutter lag is much reduced.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] apfahlert:
I noticed some improvement with shutter lag in the soak test update.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Kayak83:
Camera update is much better. Couple of shots from this morning. HDR is all I did here.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] furfmonkey:
shutter speed any better?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Kayak83:
Noticeably faster. Still not 100% as fast as I'd expect but overall, I don't doubt I got the shot as much anymore.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] timofcourse:
Not seeing much of a change here... quality (not that I've had issues with that) or lag (which is still 100% a problem).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] smokie11:
I will not try to convince anyone to like the Turbo camera, if you hate it end of story, hopefully you still have time to return the phone or if you are past the 2 weeks and you hate the camera enough selling the phone is an option. If the camera is as terrible as some described then the phone is defective, if you don't have a defective phone perhaps is your expectations; either way there is no fix for something you hate. I am very satisfied with my Turbo including it's camera, have I taken bad pictures. yes but most are either good or excellent. I have an Iphone 5s and it does take bad pictures sometimes. I hope those that hate the Turbo camera find a solution that makes them happy. Merry Christmas to all. :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] the_rooter:
camera has no lag on my end. I am willing to bet that some of the people having issues havent done an fdr. I always do an fdr no matter how big of an update it may be.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] adrynalyne:
It isn't lag, people are upset that focus isn't instant, and it isn't instantly ready to take another pic after taking a shot.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] the_rooter:
after the update my camera seems to be snappier. focus usually isnt instant no matter the device. complainers will be complainers
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] timofcourse:
Actually it is lag. At least thats my issue and I think what several others have mentioned as well. When I press the button to take a picture there is a very noticeable lag between the time I press it and when the picture is actually taken. What's worse is the lag is seemingly between the actual focus and when the picture is taken. This makes things especially awful with any kind of action shots as the photo will almost always have some type of blur.

I know you've stated numerous times there is nothing wrong with the camera and its all the fault of the user, but as several others can attest and complained about, there is a functional issue with this camera that no amount of patience or tweaking has been able to resolve for some of us.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Kayak83:
It's odd to me that some people report zero lag in the shutter speed and some don't. I for one had bad lag before the recent update that made the camera mostly useless.

So now that some people are still reporting they still have lag, I am led to believe that different phones are functioning differently. Not sure HOW that happens but it's all I can conclude. Maybe it comes down to which model you have?

I'm on a 64 GB ballistic nylon version. Taking fantastic pictures now.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] timofcourse:
I also have the 64gb ballistic and when taking pictures of static scenes (especially outdoor, day scenes), I also get fantastic pictures and those pictures are certainly better than my old GS3. It's only the scenario previously stated that I (and I think many others) are still having issues with (especially when compared with other phones).

Regardless, I completely agree that it seems different people are seeing different results. Not sure why that is either, but as you stated it would seem to mean either phones are functioning differently are people are using them differently.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] adrynalyne:
So basically what i said. Whether you want to believe me or not, in my opinion it falls upon a slow focus. As for your claims, show me one place where I said nothing was wrong with the camera.

What I said was, I can work with it until it's fixed.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] adrynalyne:
I focus first. Then i snap the pic. It removes a lot of the delay for me.

It all falls upon focusing. It takes longer to focus than what people are accustomed to. It needs to capture the monent it focuses. The amount of light also affects this delay. Purely a software issue. That said, many phones have issues. I saw an S5 with similar delays today.

A workaround is to hold down on the screen and take multiple shots. However, with insufficient light, you will never capture an action shot.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] schwinn8:
FWIW, I don't own a Turbo (looking to get one, potentially) and many reviewers are having the same issue. For example http://www.droid-life.com/2014/11/06/droid-turbo-review/ says " I don’t know why there is this nasty shutter stutter shortly after you tap the screen to take a picture on the Turbo, but it’s there and it is extremely frustrating. And I know this isn’t just an issue with my review unit, because it was there in every demo unit I tested at the phone’s launch event as well..."

Maybe I'll wait a bit to get this phone, as this issue can be fixed, and maybe it'll have root as well by then...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] smokie11:
This is my experience with camera: http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/general/iphone5s-vs-droid-turbo-camera-t2979874
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] toofast007:
The lag initially is the focus lag, very bad indoors....outside not so terrible.

But you still cant get indoor moving shots like you can with my wife's old iPhone 5

I to have a SLR, but if I need to catch my 4 year doing something "cute" I always grab my wife's iPhone....geez, I hope they fix this!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] chucks1967:
here is my take on the camera issue...

here are a couple things to consider. I did testing in the Verizon store with the LG G3 (suppose to be one of the best camera phones on the market) and the turbo. Both had the same image blur, infact the G3 had much worse image blur. The reason being, and photographers please correct me if im wrong, is that with limited light such as indoor florescent lighting, the shutter must stay open long enough to expose the image on the sensor otherwise the image would be so dark you wouldnt be able to make out what it is... Much like high speed cameras which is why you always see an extremely bright light source on the object. In outdoor shots when the daylight is great the shutter can cycle faster because the light is able to expose the sensor much faster and thus stopping the motion much better. So why not use the flash. The problem with the flash is that it uses the led to focus, then it uses the flash to speed up the shutter because of the increased light, but the motion is blurred because of the lag in the LED vs a xenon flash. The best camera phone I tested out was the HTC one M8... but only in terms of shutter speed, and that is because HTC has the fastest shutter due to the "ultra pixel" sensor that captures so much light so fast, the down side is that it is only effectively 4 MP, so if you intend to crop the phone it just sucks, and the battery is only so so on that phone.

My suggestion is that you set the camera to take full res photos, which will only be in 4:3 format but will be at 21 MP vs 16:9 at 15.5 MP. Turn off the HDR setting turn off the flash unless the room is extremely dark and use burst mode to snap a lot of pics in a row. One of them will likely be good..... when you go outside to take a pic in the daylight all of that is moot because this camera is amazing when there is plenty of light.

Please if someone has a better explanation than that comment here. I would appreciate constructive criticism if I am wrong on any of this.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] aviwdoowks:
Anyone tried Cam fv-5?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] zombieplanalpha:
I use the Google camera app on my Turbo. The stock camera was terrible.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] noobsquared:
I'm in the same boat as you are. I'm ready to switch to Verizon for this phone from AT&T but every review said there is this lag that I don't see on my Moto X 2014 from AT&T. I guess the only way to find out is to go in store and test it yourself. I may do that tonight after work and report back.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] the_rooter:
This has been talked about before its not lag. Its a delay for focus. Two different things trying to be compared to be the same thing.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] noobsquared:
From what I've seen in all the videos that as soon as you tap the screen, it pauses for a second and then you can take another pic. Moto X 2014 I have is ready for another pic before you even lift your finger after taking a pic. I just need Moto X 2014 with bigger battery lol
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] the_rooter:
Yes that is delay from the camera focusing. Nothing of the sort of lag. people should realize its a phone with a camera not a camera with a phone. Your not going to be able to take professional pictures with a phone.