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[Verizon LG G3] empiremaster23:
Trying to use to downgrade LG G3 because I took the OTA. The tool linked launches the LG Mobile Support tool, but then tell me

"The phone is disconnected from PC. Connect the USB cable and wait a moment. Press the retry button to resume the setting analysis process"

The phone is connected and successfully in download mode on the firmware update screen. Any thoughts?
[Verizon LG G3] shiftr182:
#1. Make sure you don't have any other lg flash tool stuff on your PC (this was my problem) #2. Make sure you have the correct drivers #3. Let it wait, even after it says it's disconnected and see if it proceeds (mine also did this)
[Verizon LG G3] DatamanTheGreat:
Lollipop? On Verizon? Hilarious.

I see that a lot of people are coming from where you and I have. From a Galaxy Nexus to a G3. I wish us Verizon G3 guys had a better time than the international guys.
[Verizon LG G3] burkett375:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/12/05/lg-g3-on-verizon-gets-advanced-calling-1-0-volte-in-update/

I'm on cm12, but will flash back as soon as a rooted rom is out there. can't wait!
[Verizon LG G3] schwartz.matthew.e:
Yeah we have to be on stock for this don't we?
[Verizon LG G3] burkett375:
Im an idiot, thought I was in a different thread.
[Verizon LG G3] zdroidz:
According to the other thread root is not affected by updating
[Verizon LG G3] vudugan:
Is the update itself worth it? All I have read is do you keep root? You can dirty flash over it... Was the update worth anymore than a new modem and keeping root and Bump'ed bootloader? Was their a forum about the update itself that I missed?
[Verizon LG G3] markfm:
Doesn't work if you have custom recovery, need a dev willing to repack the files for twrp.

Here's a link to a zip of the ota files, if a dev wants to do something with them: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8sTZFIblGePM3JHbDNSLXVreVE/preview?pli=1
[Verizon LG G3] trent999:
V11c had a marginally better radio, maybe, and also patched all known exploits useful for rooting. No new exploits that work for v11c have been publicly disclosed yet, meaning v11c is in itself still unrootable without downgrading to v10b via kdz or TOT.

This new OTA update has had a few reports that it is still possible to preserve root through, and one that it is possible to either .TOT or .kdz back to v10b from it if you accept it by mistake. That would be good, indeed if it's really true.

We don't know for sure yet if there is any advantage other than possible VoLTE (mixed bag ?) and whether keeping root requires Survival Mode.
[Verizon LG G3] markfm:
Here's a description of what the new ota is supposed to cover: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8sTZFIblGePX3prWEk3dk1VTk0/preview?pli=1
[Verizon LG G3] vudugan:
I appreciate the replies but I should have been more clear. i am still on 10b and was asking if the switch from 10b to 11c was worth it.
[Verizon LG G3] burkett375:
so you're 2 updates behind? Yes, its worth it to update.
[Verizon LG G3] GillRigged:
Coming from 10B and quite modified I decided to flash 11C boot.img and system.img after the 12B modem.img and then reflashed SkyDragon Kernel. Everything seems to be working good. There's just a few little things here and there that I had to adjust back.
[Verizon LG G3] pitbull8265:
Hate to say it but there hasnt been a rom out there yet that captures full capabilities of the G3 like the stock roms... I have used them all, and keep going back to stock.. Unless youre into development, or dont mind bugs and finding work-arounds, its recommended to stay stock, and do the updates as they come

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As the networks get upgraded, so do the modems, to operate better on the current configuration
[Verizon LG G3] GillRigged:
Hmm. I cannot get adb or debug to work after using flash2 to update 11B system.img and boot.img. Anyone know of a fix for this?
[Verizon LG G3] vudugan:
Thx guys, I'll give it a go.
[Verizon LG G3] Colchiro:
Advanced Calling (clearer voice calls) interests me.... updates to bloat, well I'm rooted and will just have to deal with that again. I'm very interested....
[Verizon LG G3] zdroidz:
I used it on my galaxy s5. I was clearer but almost sounded like an echo. Also you get to make video calls right from the phone app which worked great.
[Verizon LG G3] Colchiro:
Care to share a link to the system and boot files? I flashed the modem, even downloaded the kdz, extracted the dz, created a system image from this guide, but not sure I trust it.
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
if you want the features of stock, you would be better to stay on it.

i on the other hand am glad to be rid of most of that shyt.

the rom i use does everything i want, and as far as bugs, it crashes at most once a week. thats it, no work a rounds etc.

it comes down to what you want or need out of your device, but its not fair to the devs to talk down about the roms. they arent trying to remake a stock rom, and bugs are inevitable. thats why its called development. ;)
[Verizon LG G3] zdroidz:
Can I ask what rom your running? I want pure android but I need a solid DD I can count on without losing data.
[Verizon LG G3] pitbull8265:
Oh trust me, I get it. Most of my free time, if you want to call it that, goes right into development, and building.

My comment was more in response to the concern the person shows, reflecting their inexperience. If a person is happy with the functions of a stock rom, but wants customization, there are plenty of themers that will not break their device.. People who seek alternate roms, typically do it for other reasons.. THIS was my point... maybe it was lost in translation... :laugh:
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
im on official cm 11

only issue i have is the hotspot crashes the kernel about once a week or so.
[Verizon LG G3] GillRigged:
I paged through these threads to find the system.img file and the boot.img I got from here:

http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G3/VS985/stock_partitions/11C

In regards to the 12B modem.img, that came from the thread about the the latest OTA. This is why I just wish there was a single thread with all IMG links in the OP.
[Verizon LG G3] Colchiro:
Sorry, I misunderstood you. I'm already on 11C with the 12B modem and was hoping for a link to the 12B system and boot images.
[Verizon LG G3] cap1tal1sm:
Where did you get the 11c boot.img and system.img files? I have since recently updated my modem.img via the flash2 method, but would love to get the system stuff updated to 11c (and beyond) as well. I've been participating in this thread.

EDIT: Okay, I have since seen the 11c sb1.img (which I guess is system) and the boot.img files. I'm wondering, how useful is the boot.img file? I have a custom boot animation and I'm nervous about messing with it. Trying it now will let you know how it goes
[Verizon LG G3] PacoDaTacoSeller:
I will be asked to update my phone first right? Like it won't download and update over night.
[Verizon LG G3] cap1tal1sm:
Uh, I'm stuck at the LG loading screen. It's just sitting there after claiming it had successfully flashed. Anyone can help???
[Verizon LG G3] markfm:
Sbl1, if that is what you mean by "Sb1" in your prior post, is not the system. IMG.

See http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=56458832

Here is a post with a link to the system.IMG: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=56505215

It is around 2.8gb file size.
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
It might, has happened before.

Sent from my G3, Unlocked by Team Codefire
[Verizon LG G3] GillRigged:
All files have finally been consolidated into one thread now.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2966958
[Verizon LG G3] Colchiro:
Do we know which files are required for advanced calling?

Someone mentioned Caller Name ID, which I have not frozen, but the "Activate Advanced Calling" item in Settings, does nothing when I tap it.
[Verizon LG G3] MrJoshM:
Caller Name ID isn't even supported by Advanced Calling... I'm rooted on 12B and don't have it installed.

Files I see being required from 12B are:

LGLTECall

LGTeleService

LGSettings

LGInCallUI

LGUSTelephonyProvider
[Verizon LG G3] markfm:
From the Verizon Advanced Calling 1.0 FAQ, go into Contacts - Groups, see if there is a Video Calling group showing
[Verizon LG G3] MrJoshM:
Or go into LTE only mode and try to make a call :)
[Verizon LG G3] protivakid:
If I go back to 10b can I somehow disable the forceful "Update Is Available" notification?
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
absolutely,

i dont have stock on to recite the exact apps you want to freeze, but there are 2,

one with "system update" in the name,

and "com...(something)..fota"

it has been reported that tibu isnt always effective at freezing these, i used rom toolbox pro with no issues.
[Verizon LG G3] markfm:
In /System/app, rename the two LGDMSClient files. You'll see that the .apk's icon is familiar - it's the "System updates" app that you see in Settings. After you rename the two files, System updates will disappear from Settings.

As a cross-check, after renaming the files I no longer see System updates..." listed in TiBU as an app I can freeze.

I have never messed with the com...fota file.
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
6 of one, half dozen of the other, we get to the same place ;)

Sent from my G3, Unlocked by Team Codefire
[Verizon LG G3] protivakid:
Thank you both, planning to tackle the rollback and block the update notification this week.
[Verizon LG G3] Bramton1:
Is there a new system update coming?

My front speaker got messed up. I think some kind of liquid got in it. So I unrooted and exchanged the phone for a new one. Before I could roll back to 10b (the phone came with 11c, I got a message about downloading a new update.

I don't think it's Lollipop, in case that's what anyone is thinking. The message said something about preparing for something. So probably a minor update.
[Verizon LG G3] sipock97:
12b was the latest. Basically a volte update for Verizon.
[Verizon LG G3] 06stang:
People on DL are showing how they updated with root
[Verizon LG G3] bcoop8:
Do you mean like this?

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/restore-verizon-to-stock-t2827878
[Verizon LG G3] lexluthor:
Yes, that was it. I had to restore the original version of that system file before it would update.

Will report back about keeping root once I'm back up.

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Not the case.

Mine is updating now. I had 1 system file that I edited to increase headset volume. I had to restore that file in order for the update to take. I did also unfreeze anything I had frozen, but not sure if that was necessary.
[Verizon LG G3] kwkw480:
Wow.. first post since 2009. Welcome..
[Verizon LG G3] 06stang:
This is what I was talking about. People are getting it done but I can't seem to on a brand new formatted rom. Maybe the root method?
[Verizon LG G3] xplicitmind20:
Welp, that's a good thing then. Proceed with flashing. :)
[Verizon LG G3] peacewise:
I am rooted with some system apps frozen, which I unfroze for the update, but didn't work. I have also change my build.prop which may be preventing me from taking the update. Will wait patiently!
[Verizon LG G3] bcoop8:
I did a factory data reset mine. Still getting the update error. It will not update.....Any ideas?

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I used IOroot. What about you?
[Verizon LG G3] 06stang:
Stump
[Verizon LG G3] xplicitmind20:
Yes yes ... been a long time lurker, just never posted. ahha. I started calling this place home when I had my Droid Incredible. I miss that phone sometimes. :P
[Verizon LG G3] 06stang:
What a great phone at the time. Fond memories
[Verizon LG G3] lexluthor:
All good here. I restored the one system file I edited, unfroze, did the update and I have root.
[Verizon LG G3] killswitch23456:
The incredible was my first smartphone, and the reason that I joined here. Good times, man.
[Verizon LG G3] IndianaBond:
Can you throw over that headphone file for me. I didn't save a backup.
[Verizon LG G3] lexluthor:
I make no guarantees that this is the same as your orig file and won't brick your phone. But it's the file I restored so that I could do the update.
[Verizon LG G3] bcoop8:
I finally got the update to go through. I had to reflash the tot file. Yes I did lose root and I knew that going in. But if you want the update today like I did, you can reflash to stock to get the update. The instructions are in the following link:

http://xdaforums.com/lg-g3/general/guide-unroot-ota-using-lg-pc-suite-pc-t2802286

all credit goes to the OP on that thread
[Verizon LG G3] 06stang:
That's what I figured.I won't be doing that.I love root
[Verizon LG G3] username243:
I am rooted and do not have system updates frozen. I did not receive an update. Not that I'm complaining.
[Verizon LG G3] ylexot:
They typically do a rolling deployment to keep from overloading the servers. But you can usually manually check for updates to get it...but don't. Rooted users should not take OTA updates.
[Verizon LG G3] glocklynn:
I had edited my build.prop file for multi window support for all apps...I changed the value back to false and then the update worked for me...hope this helps
[Verizon LG G3] rkennedy12:
Since the update were you able to root and bump?
[Verizon LG G3] subhelix:
Nope, I unfortunately found that out, as I read it did not break root. But didn't play any caution to the fact that I had a custom recovery. After the update, the phone would only boot into recovery. Went back to stock, took the update, and now I cant root using either IORoot or Stump.
[Verizon LG G3] bcoop8:
So I flashed stock tot files and took the update. I lost root obviously. Is it possible to flash those same tot files and then use a root method that worked on that firmware if I ever want to get root back again? So essentially downgrading...is that possible?

And if anyone is curious, some things do seem faster after the update. The stock messaging app isn't one of those things
[Verizon LG G3] toy028:
Since everyone here seems to be pushing there luck then you might as well try to flash back to stock and see if that works.
[Verizon LG G3] bcoop8:
So are you saying that you went back to unrooted stock, took the update, and are still able to root via IORoot or Stump Root?
[Verizon LG G3] sipock97:
Think I will wait for Beans to look at this. Haven't Bumped the phone yet, but might have to so I don't take an update that prevents unlocking bootloader. Saw a lot of people with that issue on Galaxy s3. Not worth it for me... Waiting patiently.
[Verizon LG G3] ohlin5:
This. Can we confirm whether Stump still works after the update??
[Verizon LG G3] bcoop8:
StumpRoot app won't work after the update. Tried it
[Verizon LG G3] subhelix:
I'm still trying, but for some reason I can't even seem to get back to stock. The LG Flash tool says download failed every single time now when I try to use the same tot file that I did to get back to stock before the update.
[Verizon LG G3] bcoop8:
LG FlashTool said "download failed" for me. However my phone still went back to stock.

Look at the OP for this thread. It got me back to stock successfully:

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/restore-verizon-to-stock-t2827878
[Verizon LG G3] subhelix:
I appreciate the input. I've been following that exact post, but I just stay on the new 11c. I wish mine would behave nice like yours seems to be.
[Verizon LG G3] bcoop8:
Sorry about that. I'm not sure what I was thinking but I didnt realize you were on the new 11C and trying to downgrade to the old version(I'm guessing to get root back?). I havent tried that yet. Best of luck to you with that. I'm interested to see if anyone can find a way to make that work.
[Verizon LG G3] th3bl3d:
i was able to take the update and retain root using supersu survival mode. I had not bumped my phone yet, just rooted. so i will have to try to see if i can do it after taking the update.
[Verizon LG G3] osmidy:
Is it just me or are screen colors more washed out now?
[Verizon LG G3] subhelix:
Yep, I was bumped. And I do need to downgrade to be able to get root back. I feel so dumb. I hope a workaround is found soon. I miss root so much.
[Verizon LG G3] RHChan84:
Never take any OTA if your rooted and/or TWRP.

I will most likely wait until 5.0 comes out and when its rooted.

Sent from my VZW LG G3 (tapatalk)
[Verizon LG G3] rp201:
After reading through this thread heres what I have learned in summary:

please correct me if I'm wrong or if you have info to add.

Some people have taken the update and maintained root. (unknown if twrp was installed) Update: the person who was able to maintain root used super su survival mode and did not have twrp installed.

Some people have taken the update and lost root. (unknown if twrp was installed)

Going back to the previous rev of 10b is still possible with the lg restore tool.

Stump root and ioroot does not work for those who took the update

Freezing the system updates using Titanium backup stops the update.

The new update makes the screen look washed out.

I'll wait for AOKP or CM or someone to examine the update.zip and strip it of all that is bad.

Sorry to hear about those who have to reinstall. Hopefully they did a backup with twrp. My suggestion is that when they restore their phone to factory they should not add any apps and skip all setup and just stump, bump, make a backup for keeps sake and restore a backup before they took the update and freeze the systemupdates app with titanium. Enjoy yourselves downloading that 2Gb Tot file. If you have never done a restore and do not know how to, search youtube on how to restore the G2 for a visual of how the software app is used for the process and procedure. it is the same as the G3 but with different files of course.

cheers
[Verizon LG G3] toy028:
This is what I got out of it.

If you took the OTA update and now have version 10C then going back to stock 10B doesn't work as of now. That could be a serious problem if that is the case.
[Verizon LG G3] rp201:
read post #64, the reply and post #70
[Verizon LG G3] toy028:
Read post #72, 75
[Verizon LG G3] annoyingduck:
There shouldn't be any reason that a manual flash of the 10b .tot file though the offline lg flash tool wouldn't work. Updating via the online tool (the one that downloads the current firmware) will likely fail especially if your unlocked (bumped). Use the manual tot method if you accidentally took the ota. If you haven't done a tot flash before, it can be tricky - but it is easy. Unfortunately the guide posted in our forum describes the kdz method in detail and omits the tot method, so when I get a chance I'll link, or create a post describing how to correctly flash a tot file.

Edit:

Use this guide for all of the downloads including the tools/drivers needed (the tot file will need to be extracted from the zip file you download, along with a dll file located in the same download folder): http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2785089

Then use this guide to flash the tot firmware to your phone using all of the files you downloaded in the first link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2475045
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Just curious have you done this yourself by any chance? Or was it stated somewhere else by one of the Devs that you can definitely downgrade? Maybe I just missed it.
[Verizon LG G3] annoyingduck:
I have not done it yet on the g3, but on my gpad 8.3 and my old Verizon g2 I could ALWAYS downgrade using the manual tot/kdz method (not the automatic online one).....Always. Its a full image being injected in - overwriting every partition. Unless there is some specific knowledge of this not working, I would be willing to say with a 90% certainty that the manual method will work. While on the other side, the "standard" lg flash tool that reads your phone, and then downloads the appropriate firmware will likely fail depending on what modifications you have done.

I'm not by any means saying take the ota, and you'll have a guaranteed downgrade option, due to the fact that I have not yet done it nor can confirm it to work....But I am saying if you accidentally did take the ota, I'd put a very, very strong bet on your ability to downgrade using the manual tot method.
[Verizon LG G3] rp201:
Sometimes upgrades do not allow you to go back to stock. For example the droidx and bionic from moto. Once the radio took an update it was bye bye original stock. Assuming is never good.

Sent from my VS985 4G
[Verizon LG G3] annoyingduck:
Agreed, which is why I kept my wording in a "it should work" manner. Someone who took the ota should test this out. You never know until you know....
[Verizon LG G3] shadricksimms:
Yeah the new update is nutts
[Verizon LG G3] RHChan84:
Any idea what's on this update? Seems like a minor update and probably not worth it to lose root and TWRP.

Sent from my VZW LG G3 (tapatalk)
[Verizon LG G3] saifbukhari:
im on stock and updating.... lets see
[Verizon LG G3] Fstall303:
How do you do this? I did not have the option in root manager

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[Verizon LG G3] prudhivisekhar:
Might be a system update
[Verizon LG G3] :
Why would I ever take an OTA? I like my unlocked phone with root.

Isn't the update just going to provide basically the same features that the ported 2.0 M international version of Jasmine will offer, except it will kill my recovery + root? If so...no thanks. I'll wait for the devs to figure this out...and donate once they do.

I still don't understand why I pay all this money for my device but my carrier won't let me use it how I want to. :confused: It's like a car dealer telling you that you can't upgrade your tires after you've bought their car. And the OTA is basically them taking your new tires away from you and putting the same sh+try factory ones back on in front of you.
[Verizon LG G3] Cruiserdude:
Guys, I understand that some of you may have never had a phone that you couldn't roll back, but it is quite possible that is what is happening here.

As mentioned, most Motorola phones have been like this; every major update would prevent the phone from rolling back to a previous version, either through fastboot or RSDLite (Moto flash tool). Not sure if this was intentional or simply a result of how the radio was programmed, but nonetheless that was how it worked.

I also had a Verizon Galaxy S4, which as many of you know was quickly exploited by Dan Rosenberg to allow flashing unsigned kernels. Then it was quickly updated, and that update quite intentionally prevented a downgrade even with a JTAG rig, by shorting out QFuses to invalidate the signature of the original kernel. To this day, no other exploit to bypass boot signature verification or allow a downgrade has been released. And everyone who took the OTA, or bought phones that came with newer software still have no options beyond Safestrap.

That's not to say it's the case here, but once you've been burned a few times you get pretty cautious. Maybe it can still be rolled back somehow, or maybe this update does nothing to interfere with Bump. Or maybe you've all just screwed yourselves and you'll never see an unlocked bootloader again. You'll just have to wait and see.

For me, I'll wait with what I've got (currently Cloudy rom on 10m base). Find it awfully funny that once the bootloader finally gets unlocked and someone ports a newer software from the international version, Verizon releases their long overdue OTA like 2 days later, but I digress...
[Verizon LG G3] maclv:
Ota updated still have root and adfree..I have stock Rom with frozen bloatware. No need to unfreeze bloat here.