yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fire TV General] adop40:
It's so strange, today I have the same issue before the reset of my fireTV yesterday...

I think it's a software related problem. Both devices use the same network with 5 GHz WiFi. I will test later another situations like turning WiFi off on my Z1.

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[Fire TV General] ssauger:
You need wifi on on the phone and aftv, but you don't need connected to any network if i am right. With my ptv3000 miracast reciver its possible. And if i have seen ist right by my friend, sony Z1 isn't able to use miracast and the wifi network for internet connection at the same time. As he connects to my miracast reciver, the wifi stops and he was on mobile connection. On my nexus devices i am able to yous my wifi for internet. I realy hope its a software problem and Amazon fix it soon, cause its a realy nice feature.
[Fire TV General] jarayn:
they certainly dont need to be on wifi.

I assumed you meant on the same network, which of course they do.

..

Im completely underwhelmed by miracast though, its not worth bothering with imo. Just forget that its there and cross your fingers the smart people get the chromecast receiver mod working.
[Fire TV General] Y314K:
Updated my post... Keep on testing...
[Fire TV General] chrootz:
I tried to use my Verizon note 3 mirroring and it doesn't work for me.
[Fire TV General] nhumber:
no go here either with telus s4 running cm11, the phone shows the ftv and says connecting, the ftv shows the phone and says preparing but after a while it just times out and drops back to the menu.. ill try my wifes s3 also but shes on cm11 too, im running the latest rooted-netflix-fix version on the ftv.
[Fire TV General] Y314K:
Guess we need to verify if the non rooted folks are having the same issues or not to rule out a problem with our PreRooted FW... Like with the NetFlix issue... But it sounds like new feature bugs...

Any of you in this thread please specify if your success or failure with Miracast is on a Rooted or Non-Rooted AFTV ??? I am guessing this is only a feature of FW 51.1.4.0_user_514006420...
[Fire TV General] stony2k:
As I said: non-rooted Fire TV, Stock Nexus 5 (rooted, no mods). Tested with FTV connected to Wifi, Ethernet, restarted router, Nexus and FireTV. Also reseted FireTV to default settings. No luck for now, Nexus tries to establish a connection, than it fails without any errors.
[Fire TV General] ssauger:
My only success was with my rooted Nexus7 Stock ROM , non rooted AFTV. Both on same wifi. As i said, only once i got a connection. Reset, beboot, nothing works. Sometimes there pops an authentification screen when i try to connect.
[Fire TV General] adop40:
For me actually the same. But it was only one time possible after a reset of my fireTV. And after this one time no more.

Unrooted fireTV, rooted Sony Xperia Z1

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[Fire TV General] whiskeyxrey:
Great timing on this. I just switched from a Kindle HDX to a Sony Xperia Z3 Tablet, and I was concerned I was going to have to swap my Fire TV for a Roku. Now I don't have to worry about it :D I'll test it out on the Z3 Tablet when I get home and then post.
[Fire TV General] whiskeyxrey:
Works great with the Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact and the Xperia Z3.
[Fire TV General] tg32:
Non rooted fire tv + LG G2. works great. Confirmed myself
[Fire TV General] Adit18:
Folks, please forgive my ignorance.

What exactly is Miracast? Is it basically the same as Apple's Airplay / Mirroring?

If yes then can it be used to send pictures / video from my iPhone to my fireTV?

Yes I know there is an app called AirPin PRO that I can purchase from Amazon app store but this app isn't great to airplay videos that have been captured by the iPhone itself (lots of buffering).
[Fire TV General] Skater4599:
Yes it essentially is like apples airplay in most ways, instaed of just sending over video's/music it actually shows your screen on your TV. However Miracast seems to only be partially working on the FTV, mine works but its random and rarely connects, wont work for like 15x in a row then all the sudden it will connect again etc. not quite prime time, and from what I read on this thread, the sound and video are not top notch when doing it this way, your better off using allcast and being able to play full HD and non degraded sound if that's what your looking to do with it.
[Fire TV General] assyriska:
Got the same problem with my Surface Pro 2....it says that there is a problem with the connection.
[Fire TV General] stony2k:
To all of you who has connection troubles: Which router do you have? Maybe this problem is Fritz Box related..
[Fire TV General] smogan:
Nope, no Fritzbox here. tp-link 1043ND. Two phones and two tablets and no connection possible.
[Fire TV General] Pat1981:
Same here, Lenovo yoga 2 pro with changed wifi card for miracast (works perfect with Sony tv via miracast, via fire tv connection get lost)
[Fire TV General] Adit18:
Thanks for the reply. So it seems miracast is not that 100% stable. Could you please point me in the direction of where I can find more info on allcast? And is it compatible with apple devices?
[Fire TV General] Skater4599:
I don't believe allcast is apple compatible, but I can't test it as I don't have any apple devices, its available on the marketplace right on the fire TV if you wanted to try it out. I know there is an airplay/upnp app that is compatible with apple i've seen, but again, I've never actually used/tested it. But I can tell you if you just want to stream a video/music from phone to the fire TV from android allcast works quite well. Im just not too sure on apple devices sorry
[Fire TV General] BobT16:
Miracast to FTV from Asus T100 windows 8.1

Could not get my Asus T100 to connect to FTV using Miracast
[Fire TV General] Adit18:
[MENTION=2918576]Skater4599[/MENTION]

Thanks for the info, I'll give install it through market place when I have chance. But the allcast client app (which I believe you need installed on the device which you intend to stream from) is not available through Apple's app store, so I guess there is no way it will work.
[Fire TV General] kronusx12:
Just to back up what's mostly been determined I guess, this refuses to work on my Surface Pro 3. Trying to watch physics lectures on TV while taking notes on the SP3.... WHY WON'T YOU WORK?!
[Fire TV General] bigwillie1:
Screen mirroring doesn't work. It does connect but it doesn't mirror. Devices that i have tried are Nexus 4 and 7 on lollipop and HTC one m8 on KitKat.

Hopefully Amazon fixes the issue in the next update.
[Fire TV General] bradwatson:
I've only tested this once on my 2014 Moto X running Lollipop, but the video was very laggy for me. If I mirror to my Roku Stick, video is very smooth. Maybe it was just a one time issue, but I was disappointed in my first attempt at this.
[Fire TV General] lexluthor:
It just doesn't look like this works with Windows. Anyone seen any confirmation of anyone getting this to work with a Windows 8.1 machine?
[Fire TV General] Sc0rp10:
not working on nexus 5

I'm running lollipop on my nexus 5. I can see the fire tv on my phone but it stays at connecting and then stops after a few seconds.

EDIT: tried multiple lollipop roms for the nexus 5 but the issue persists. miracast work great on my wife's G3 with stock firmware so it seems like its an issue on the phone rather than the fire tv.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matalo:
I apologize if this is the wrong forum or thread, but I would like to know if it is possible to take an unlocked at&t Note 3 and switch it to Verizon?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 440bro:
Sorry but Verizon uses cdma technology and the at&t note 3 uses gsm technology.
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lpachuong:
Hi everyone,

I am playing Republique and using CpuTemp to capture the CPU's temperature. I found it is running at about 65-68degree so wonder if it is overheating or just normal?

Thanks
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BVVNAIDU:
Hello XDA Developers..

I'm using Sony Xperia Z1 with modal no C6902!!!!

My request is how to change my UI to new Sony Xperia Z2 or Z3 and one more thing is I'll purchased my device recntly,is there any damage occurred during this process,please help me please...
[Moto G Accessories] dianestory2:
So, for my old iPhone, I used this Bluetooth Speaker, from TechMatte, I really like using it. Will it still work on this moto g? Or do I need to get a different speaker? I would love to keep this one if possible...
[Moto G Accessories] dianestory2:
Thanks, I guess that makes sense.
[Moto G Accessories] dianestory2:
Pretty good! I have it in my office, and it just plays softly from the corner; sounds great with some early Christmas music!! :D
[Moto G Accessories] mastero101:
Bluetooth Speaker

l buy one Bluetooth Speaker with NFC, FM radio, AUX and micro SD on focalprice, the Speaker is very good but the battery dies for the price the Speaker works very well l recomend it. l cant post links so I will not show us pictures of it fo.r now
[Moto G Accessories] lmf:
Does it use a lot of battery on the phone? I like to find one with some good bass but not many options due to its size and based on reviews
[Moto G Accessories] dianestory2:
Not too much. I dont find it to be an issue with mine.
[Moto X General] Darth:
Great info! ??
[Moto X General] diegoap:
SBF is my first choice, but when I needed the 4.4.4 retail firmware not found it in SBF, I had to turn to Google and found it.

FTP of Moto Firmware is empty, but the File Factory folder has many versions! Very cool.
[Moto X General] x000x:
if my firmware is currently 4.2.2, can I download the 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 firmware and it would fix a soft brick with 4.2.2? or must i find the 4.2.2 firmware in order to fix the issues?
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
I'm not sure what problem you encountered is.. If it is truely "soft bricked" first start by booting the phone to APFastboot/Booloader screen and use fastboot or mFastboot on the PC to erase the phone's cache then try to reboot.

If that doesn't work, generally to recover from any issues, if you can boot into APFasboot/Booloader, check the version on the second line, then download and flash the appropriate ROM version, you can recovery from most soft brick scenarios.

30.70 = original 4.2.2

30.71 = 4.2.2 OTA with camera update

30.B2 = 4.4

30.B4 = 4.4.2

30.B7 = 4.4.4

Once on 4.4.2, 4.4.3 or 4.4.4, NEVER flash an older version ROM!!!

On occasion, you need to use mfastboot, and do a few extra commands (See Option 5 at -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-ReturnToStock.html )

If you have any questions, please search and see if any threads with your phone's symptoms already exist then post in that thread. If a thread doesn't already exist, start a new one, and post any details of what phone you have (model, carrier), what the symptom is, and what was done leading up to the symptom appearing. The more details you can supply the better.
[Moto X General] x000x:
edit: problem resolved. see my findings: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=57122184&postcount=635

Thanks Kidjoe :)
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
BUT if you tried to take the OTA while TWRP was on your phone, just boot into fastboot mode on the phone, and do a mfastboot erase cache will get you out of the bootloop. Then you can flash stock recovery on there, take the ota.

Or you can just flash the 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 for your phone, when completed, flash TWRP on there, reboot hte phone to bootloader, enter Recovery/TWRP and root.

Yes, You can flash a higher/newer version without problems. You just can't flash older once 4.4.2 or higher has been flashed to your phone. (the only time its safe to flash older was when you had 4.4 on your phone, and you were Following the SlapMyMoto process to downgrade to 4.2.2. W/Camera Update as part of the process).
[Moto X General] Travisdroidx2:
Thank you for this!
[Moto X General] scryan:
Getting a Moto X VZW dev ed in a few days, and while it may never apply to me, I had his same question.

I understand what you said, but it doesn't really address the issue of if it is OK to use these images to flash to a later version...

I am aware of the risks of flashing to older firmwares, but are their risks to flashing NEWER updates? I have seen people go as far as to recommend flashing the current version first to recover, then updating... But is this necessary?
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
U can always flash newer images without a problem. It's flashing older images (downgrading) that's a problem.
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
The OTA updates are incremental, so you need to be on a certain level to take them. (to take 4.4.4 you need to be on 4.4.2, to take 4.4.2 you need to be on 4.4, etc)

Full SBF/FXZ files are complete roms. They are not incremental like the OTA Updates are. When flashing a FULL SBF/FXZ you can just flash it, so long as its the same version OR newer than what is on your phone, with no need to "step up." In other words, if you have 4.4 on your phone, you can flash directly to 4.4.4 using the full 4.4.4 SBF, without having to flash 4.4.2 on there first.

The risks to keep in mind would be, just like any update...

If you have a locked bootloader, the vulnerabilities exploited to root and disable write protection might be patched in the newer roms, that means you might not be able to root, or the processes may change for the newer rom. However, with an unlocked bootloader, there is no issue rooting and disabling write protection (lollipop is yet to be confirmed).

In either case, since you can't safely downgrade, if you find bugs, other issues (battery life, reception, etc), or there is something you don't like about the rom, you're stuck, since you can't safely downgrade.
[Moto X General] gitit20:
THANK YOU SO MUCH every damn site I went to posted a link to a long dead server :) LIFE SAVER YOU ARE....
[Moto X General] the_fiasco:
Method to go STOCK.

Hey,I'm currently on CM12/5.0.2 Official ROM for ghost[Bootloader unlocked & I had rooted my device for upgrading to CM12 obviously :P but now Root Checker says that my device is not rooted].My model number is XT1052(Asia Retail/India).I've found a link(but sadly can't post) for the stock ROM on FileFactory but I don't know the further steps to return back to stock.Before upgrading to CM12/5.0.2 I was on 4.4.4 and since Official 5.0.2 is just right around the corner I'd like to go stock(4.4.4). I'd be highly obliged.I've even downloaded a recovery file as posted by [MENTION=5432924]flasherruts[/MENTION] in his thread

"Stock Recovery 4.4.4 XT1052". Will your guide for Returning to stock work for me as well?Sorry but I'm new to this community. :)

Build Number: KXA21.12-L1.26

System Version:212.44.26.ghost_row.AsiaRetail.en.03

Model Number:XT 1052

Thanks in Advance!
[Moto X General] Konno_Yuuki:
http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/general/guide-moto-x-return-to-100-stock-using-t2446515
[Moto X General] flasherruts:
I suggest you use this : perfect compatible stock firmware for xt1052 asia retail first gen moto x. : http://www.filefactory.com/file/3qr..._4.4.4_KXA21.12-L1.26_18_cid7_CFC_1FF.xml.zip pl. check it with someone else just in case if I'm wrong. pm me if you have any problems
[Moto X General] the_fiasco:
Hey, thanks for replying!

Yeah, I found this stock recovery a while ago and downloaded it and now back to stock 4.4.4. Thanks a lot!
[Moto X General] dagoban:
[MENTION=1165307]KidJoe[/MENTION] since filefactory is really slow, I searched for some alternatives and found some good ones, maybe you could add it to your 1st post?

Really good and fast overview page with most/all files, when you look for something, go here 1st:

https://cloud.mail.ru/public/64a43f0fcc1e/Moto_X or here:

https://cloud.mail.ru/public/a083d0bb5e97/Motorola

Big Thx to OP: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=514209&st=8360

Some other alternatives:

XT1053 4.4.2; 4.4.3; 4.4.4 (downloading from mega server (fast!)), thx to OP (http://www.grupoandroid.com/topic/110743-aporte-firmware-t-mobile-retail-442/):

TMO_RETAIL_XT1053_4.4.2-KXA20.16-1.25_MR3_CFC.xml.zip: https://mega.co.nz/#!7RJygbQI!Sbx-bGRV8NbRsqLKS-d33nM_SEgY81czr8rye2ROYb0

TMO_RETAIL_XT1053_4.4.3-KXA21.12-L1.21_MR4_CFC.xml.zip: https://mega.co.nz/#!HQ4l2JIT!LD1gf8m2GxBou3NDFD8lzuxSi2OCn37X7Vhbe-hjNqc

TMO_RETAIL_XT1053_4.4.4_213.44.1.ghost_row.Retail.en.US_MR4_CFC.tgz: https://mega.co.nz/#!zIJhlSCS!o9B7xvRSJ9gTCdTYjXdmVActEmdWRBvhIVjs8JUHI8Q

XT1052_RETAIL-EU_4.4.4_KXA21.12-L1.26_54_cid7_CFC_1FF.xml.zip: https://yadi.sk/d/M2H9LMFJbYiag

from mega (fast!):http://www.mega.co.nz/#!jZgjECZT!sG0-9Vqngms551gwv9PfejY1mw_5QCL8Pg48KTVx4m0

XT1052_RETAIL-​GB_4.4.4_KXA21​.12-L1.26_56_c​id7_CFC_1FF.xm​l.zip: https://yadi.sk/d/KLmLR43SbYiaX

XT1052_RETAIL-​DE_4.4.4_KXA21​.12-L1.26_54_c​id7_CFC_1FF.xm​l.zip: https://yadi.sk/d/hDEHw2O-bYiae
[Moto X General] Specker_:
For Brazilians user's

http://www.motoforum.com.br/topic/4...oto-g-2014-moto-e-moto-maxx-nexus-6-moto-360/
[Moto X General] ms1234:
Does anyone know of a link that contains the Rogers 4.4.4 file? I need it to update to 5.1.

I have tried the filefactory link but after the countdown, the file is unavailable. I haven't seen any other links for it.

Thanks
[Moto X General] dharbot:
I have the same problem. I've looked everywhere and cannot find the rogers 4.4.4 file.

If anyone has it download, could you please share with us.

Alternatively, would i be able to Flash XT1058_VIVO-BR_4.4.4_KXA21.12-L1.26_59_cid12_CFC_1FF.xml.zip since the build versions are the same?

I only need the 4.4.4 in order to install the Lolipop update.

Thanks
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
If you haven't found it yet, I have a copy of XT1058_RCI-CA_4.4.4_KXA21.12-L1.26_59_cid14_CFC_1FF.xml.zip but I will not be able to upload it until later tonight.

[MENTION=850713]dharbot[/MENTION], do NOT flash Vivo BR firmware on your Rogers XT1058. If you do, you will be running the Vivo Brazil firmware and get Vivo's upgrades, not Rogers.
[Moto X General] dharbot:
[MENTION=1165307]KidJoe[/MENTION]

Thanks for the warning. I will wait for the correct file.
[Moto X General] frijolito18:
Does anyone have a mirror link for XT1053 Developer Edition 4.4.4 sbf? Motorola is not giving me permission for download in Drive :/
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/2yh...4.4.4_KXA21.12-L1.29.1_2_cid9_CFC_1FF.xml.zip

that is the same image/rom version however it might not include moto's fastboot.
[Moto X General] frijolito18:
Thanks! Do you think i can flash this and the Developer Edition 5.1 OTA over? Or do I need a TMO OTA?

Enviado desde mi Moto G mediante Tapatalk
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
first off... DO NOT FLASH 4.4.4 IF you have already tried any of the 5.x updates as you do risk bricking. Despite some saying its ok to downgrade, there have been several who have bricked!

Next, at least for the Variants sold in the USA, all XT1053 ROMs are all the same. In other words, the XT1053 sold as the GSM Developer Edition, and the GSM Unlocked (ships with T-Mobile SIM) or GSM Unlocked (ships with Net10 SIM), all use the exact same rom. There is no "TMO OTA."

That being said, I'm unaware of the XT1053 being sold by Moto outside the USA.
[Moto X General] frijolito18:
Thanks for the warning. I'm currently using the TWRP soak test backup, so I have not messed up with the bootloader. On the variants issue, I have read and all I can say is that every XT1053 (coming from USA or Mexico) are exactly the same. I will test tomorrow cause I don't have the phone with me, I'm using a Moto G and thats why I have many doubts about this
[Moto X General] frijolito18:
Just confirming... I have succesfully installed 4.4.4 XT1053 Developer edition image on a XT1053 Nextel México variant and everything is working fine (wi-fi and network too). Also the 5.1 OTA for Developer Edition posted a few days ago is working great, I have not found any issue so far.
[Moto X General] siyangqiu:
Does anyone have a System and Boot partition TWRP backup of 5.1 for the XT1053? I forgot to make one and installed CM12.1 after updating to the bootloader (through 5.1 OTA), so I can't go back to stock. Thanks in advance!
[Moto X General] joni1101:
TMO 4.4.4 ROM from MOTO (XT1053)

Moto took a long time to give me access to the factory roms. I am linking 4.4.4 here for the community's convenience.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1KTBUtop5_HZkxNS2NZdkdQZW8/view?usp=sharing

XT1053_4.4.4_213.44.1 (KXA21.12-L1.29.1_2_cid9_CFC_1FF)

md5 = 22773e5981cb04f6286a12e9488d0db5

sha1 = f8e0d2c0e04c2414f16a44c21ddb0ca18b2122e4
[Moto X General] zlebors:
Mirror from my cloud

https://cloud.mail.ru/public/5pk7/Who7VNX6Z
[Moto X General] riyosakura:
hei there all.

I'm using XT1056, unlocked sim, CM13.

I have problem when calling unable switching to loudspeaker mode, and sometime mute if called by someone.

I read on the forum, flashing 5.1 modem will solve the problem. Since i need unlocked sim device, flashing 5.1 modem is not a choice. I've already tried flashing 5.1 modem and the result is sim card is locked. And there is no way to reunlock the sim card when using 5.1 Modem atm (I hope someone know how to unlock the sim card :( ).

So therefore i need 4.4.4 modem to use on my phone. I need NO-HLOS and fsg file if someone here have it and willingly share it to me. im using 4.4.2 modem atm. So the problem persist. I hope if I update my modem to latest 4.4.4 modem, maybe (just maybe) the problem on my devices is solve.
[Moto X General] sd_shadow:
2016 Moto X Firmware links

http://www.filefactory.com/folder/dd05c058d3ff8dbe/?sort=created&order=DESC&show=100&page=1

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=44728

https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/ghost/official/VZW/

https://yadi.sk/d/MCliEyCPfj7ZZ/MOTO.X1

https://firmware.center:8081/firmware/Motorola/Moto X (1st gen-2013)/Stock/
[Moto X General] GOVARADHAN G:
How to put os for moto E 1st generation
[Moto X General] sd_shadow:
Moto Drivers, Firmware, RSD Lite, and other Unbricking Tools
[Moto X General] echo124:
Any developers have hands on the device or should moto x forum be closed? ;( [MENTION=4267571]sd_shadow[/MENTION] [MENTION=1165307]KidJoe[/MENTION]
[Moto X General] sd_shadow:
that's not how XDA works, lol
[Moto X General] YedanyXD:
Lol x2
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wailoon:
Hi

I have a problem with my xperia z3, I am not able to set both sim to use LTE.

If i set sim 1 to use LTE, sim 2 will change to GSM.

If i set sim 2 to use LTE, sim 1 will change to GSM.

Is this right??

Can I have both sim using LTE since both telco provide LTE service.
[Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theskig:
Seems normal. Only one LTE at time, another user is worried about same issue (not have a Z3 dual, going to buy one)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haploidus:
Hi,

Samsung has claimed that they have got some FIPS 140-2 certified devices. I've downloaded some source code from Samsung's open source center to try out building a FIPS enabled kernel. But I couldn't find a config file for it. Any one happens to know what source package has it? Or if anyone has a FIPS enabled Samsung device, could you kindly get the config file from the device and post here? (adb pull /proc/config.gz)

Thanks.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sgns:
I've just destroyed my 'flex cable' so i've the following items for sale:

1 x Motherboard (v3) with camera - 180$-220$ [About $320 from HTC Europe]

1 x LCD touch screen - 10-20$

1 x Housing [Front & back] - 60$

1 x Shell (with keyboard) -100$

1 x Battery - 15$

2 x Stylus - 10$

2 x Battery Cover with windows logo - 10$/each

1 x Battery Cover without windows logo - 7$/each

I'll add a few pictures later.

If anyone interested please PM me
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DG|Buu:
I Updated My Xt1033 Moto G Bootloader When 4.4.4 GPe Was Updated.

Now,If I Try To Flash GPe Firmware Package Again,I Get Partition Error.

(Remote Failure)

Even If I Flash GB Firmware Fsg.mbn And NON-HLOS.bin For Single Sim,Where Mobile Data Works Perfect.Whereas,If Anyone Calls Me,Ring Goes On And My Phone No Notification(or) No Recognize.

Any Help?
[Moto E Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dilshad969:
Can anyone say about when are we going to get the updates for our phone(XT-1022) to Lollipop.
[Moto E Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nisu4717:
November end may be