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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wiggz:
Well I did have GPS in battery saving mode, something I've NEVER done for any other phone. Some people are getting 6+ hours of screen on time and I'm just a little envious of that!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
I am as well, despite my signal, though last Saturday killed me due to 25% no signal. Tap on your Cell Standby. What is your time without a signal?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wiggz:
Apparently 26% - I spent most of today in the London Tube
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
That might be why. I had similar stats this weekend with that kind of signal loss.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] neur0tk:
Mine was 9hrs in cell Standby today my basement office has terrible signal might need a Booster ha
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Cell standby isn't bad, its time without signal that is.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wiggz:
Are you guys happy with the above performance? Less than 4 hours of screen on?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] robmc826:
Ive had my Turbo for a couple of days. Overall the phone is good. But the battery life is pretty crappy. To 5 percent I got 3.5 hours of screen on time. And last night I went from 90 percent to 78 percent while it sat on my nightstand.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wiggz:
That's what I've seen so far...very strange as some are posting 6-8 hours of SOT....how?!?!?!

I'd love to know what I'm missing,. I paid a premium to get this device in the UK thinking it would finally be an almost no compromise device - I'm not ready to give up on it yet, but jesus something needs to change!

Don't get me wrong, I still get through a whole day, but I'm left wondering why I've lost 20% in 4.5 hours...I've made no phonecalls, and listened to an hour or two of podcasts...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
You can have extreme screen on performance or long life. You cannot have both and those that do are cheating the results. The original 48 claim was not 48 hours plus 7-9 hours screen on time.

One or the other...

Those that doubt the cheating and having both:

I had a Verizon Galaxy Nexus. It had a screenshot of 8 hours SOT. What I don't tell you is that it was a black screen with a dim clock, sitting all night. Anyone can fake their SOT.

So choose your side: 48 hours or SOT. If you get somewhere in the middle, that should be acceptable to you.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
They arent losing 26% of their cell signal ;)

No phone can survive continual searches for networks. The claimed up to battery life was in ideal conditions.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wiggz:
According to my battery stats now, since 8am, I've had 64% signal loss.....seems very strange. Might have to look elsewhere other than ThreeUK
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Ouch!

If you know you will be in a no signal area, it might be worth it to use airplane mode.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wiggz:
My argument is I haven't noticed any drop in signal where I am today..I've been getting updates and notifications throughout the day, so I find 64% hard to believe. Perhaps it's the jumping from 3G to HSDPA, to 4G and back that's causing the issue?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Most likely. Each time it grabs a new signal counts as a bit of a loss.

Put it in airplane mode and test it. I bet the signal time drops tremendously.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dbornack:
Came into this thread to post some battery stats, and I've noticed "Cell Standby" as the 2nd contributor to battery loss. 25% for screen, 25% for Cell Standby. I looked into Cell Standby, and it says 49% without a signal, which is comPLETE BS. I'm never in an area without 4G, and with less than 3 bars of service. Does this account for any sleep time at night? Does this matter that I'm on WiFi at work and home?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
It accounts for all times. I know you guys call BS, but I was in a no signal area this weekend and had time without signal of 25%. To be expected. I live in a poor 4G area and I am constantly at 0%, which means I lose it occasionally.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dbornack:
"All times" What does that mean? I literally don't drop signal, ever.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
How do you know? Do you look at your connection status 24/7?

When I say all times, I mean if the phone is on, that counter for time without signal is tracked.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dbornack:
Barring a cell tower issue, or the occasional elevator ride, yes, I'm sure. I'll check these stats again after a few more cycles to compare, but it seems very odd to me that my phone would be looking for signal 25% of the time.. Also, what is "no signal"? an X with no bars, or just no 1x/3g/4g?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Any time interruptions happen with a cell tower, which can be quicker than the signal bars show.

Go into your settings under sound and enable Network lost tone, and roaming tone.

Make sure your volume is up and listen for it. It will be more reliable than your "24/7" monitoring of your signal bars.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wiggz:
Just so you guys know...I changed my network type from Global to LTE/gsm (UK here) and battery immediately plateaued
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
I'm pretty sure the phone tells you how long it's been without signal.... You don't need to check it all the time. There a little thing in the battery settings that says "time without signal" percentage.

Sent from my XT1254
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
You should re-read our conversation. Start at post 292.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
I see whats going on now
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] haccess:
You guys use your phones too much. :laugh:

Here's my battery usage from barely using my phone. I saw a big improvement after the most recent update, previously was getting 3.5 days on a charge with minimal phone use.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Its great that it lasts that long but this is basically how long you can keep it on without using it.... a paperweight... a block of plastic, glass, metal, and fiber that does nothing but charge and discharge.

It would be great to see an Ideal ratio of:

2 days on battery

8-10hrs screen time (probably average for 2 days)

All that aside - this is a very impressive endurance result!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] haccess:
I just happen to have regular access to better tech options in desktop/laptop/tablet form. It's far from a paperweight when it's always accepting texts and calls, and is readily available for anything I need it for (in this case, just light texting/emailing and rerouting around traffic congestion). It's nice to know that even if I haven't charged in several days it will have plenty of battery left to do whatever without needing to have the charger with me.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
Agreed, a huge piece of mind - especially when using public transportation and traveling a lot,

Txt, emails, and Spotify are literally the only things I use my phone for on battery power.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ccheww:
72 Hour Charging Habits

Figured I would get a little variation in the info provided in this thread for those in the future.

As we have all been posting single battery cycles, (All starting at 100% i assume) which isnt exactly good for the battery according to some other users, I decided to post my battery results with suggested charging habits (keep above 20% and below 90%)

This is a 4 day period - with pretty heavy usage (my laptop is broken)

14 hrs screen on time
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] spinach.chin:
This is just from d*cking around on the internet for several hours this morning on my day off. 2 hrs screen on after only 20% gone is not too shabby.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] spinach.chin:
...and after a full day, 18 hrs with almost 7 and a half hrs screen on time. This was moderate and heavy usage throughout the day. I've disabled a handful of apps, but nothing extreme. Running command center, and all the voice and screen goodies are still enabled as well.

Just picked this up on Monday, so its only been through a few charge cycles. It should get even better, I expect. Pretty sure I can get 10 hrs screen time without too much effort.

I think the biggest mistake VZW and Motorola did with this thing was ridiculously touting the "48 hour battery". Not sure what they were thinking, but it's leading to unrealistic expectations, I think. IMO, this thing is a beast, and it trumps my old Note 2 quite easily, which was no slouch when it came to battery life.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bkeaver:
This s is average for me on my Turbo. Really happy with it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wolf_walker69:
GSAM says...

Battery Life: 1d 11.2h (13h 19m Active)

Screen On: 4h 21m (5h 34m Max)

Unless I'm missing something those are averages, but I'm not sure the experimenting with the

wonky Qi charging hasn't skewed them a bit. Sounds about right though.

I make zero special effort to coddle the battery and am almost exclusively on wifi since

I work from home, very little actual phone talking usage either.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PurpScurp:
thank you very much
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wadamean:
Check this out
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] patt2k:
my friend got his phone he came from LG G2 and he even admitted the next day that battery is just hyped up.

And I agree everything about the phone is great but the battery.

he uses bluetooth headset for talking only

some clash of clans

some calling

some texting and small browsing

max battery was 3H on screen on G2 he could do much more lol.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cyberr8der:
Glad that's settled. Since your friend says it's just hyped up we can put this discussion to rest now. Seriously though, I had a G2 and my wife still uses one. We just took a weekend trip and her G2 died while I still have 40% left. In really depends on how you use your phone etc. The G2 has a 3000mah battery while the turbo has a 3900mah battery. I'm pretty sure those are facts not hype.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] patt2k:
Exactly it depends on how you use in this case G2 did better so I am just telling what I know and from own experience.

it's 32GB model if it makes any difference but in this case battery is not that great.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] HugoMastrangelo:
Hello everybody! I am relatively new to the xda forum and is the first time I post comments here. I live in Brazil and recently got the Moto Maxx (XT1225) through operator Tim Brazil. After 3 days of moderate use the battery did very well, reaching nearly 1 and a half days of use, practically the use announced by Motorola. Below screen, hugs!

http: //imageshack.com/a/img538/7451/dzBYJE. png

PS: my tip is to disable the NFC option in the "Network Settings". :good:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Slim706:
I currently have the xperia z3v and after using it for a month and then using the turbo for about 15 days before that, I am probably going back to the turbo; not because of battery life. I constantly get about 6 hours sot but thats with stamina mode on with 20% brightness on which is fine with me. I miss the moto software the most; not to mention quicker updates from motorola vs sony.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
People have already shown you otherwise. Your issue isnt the phone.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Jjdustr340:
Thus far, using my Turbo the same I always used my G2, the Turbo battery is doing much better than the G2 did. Don't get me wrong, my G2 was awesome, but this Turbo is superior.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] streebs87:
Depending on how I use it (being at work all day with minimal use or weekends when I use it pretty heavily) it obviously varies. Minimal use I don't have to charge it at night, heavy use requires just one charge at the end of the day. At the end of the day with minimal use my battery is at about 65-75 percent, after heavy use its usually down to about 25-35 percent. It feels awesome to have a phone where I'm not constantly checking my battery and worrying about bringing a charger with me somewhere. Also, I did done tweaking to improve the battery (WiFi settings, Moto apps, etc)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
I got better standby time on my g2. Mainly because of root though. But screen on time and actual usage the Droid turbo is superior
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] DoctorB0NG:
I'm fairly confident that root isn't the reason why the G2 idles better than the turbo. Motorola/Verizon need to update the baseband or they just put power hungry radios in the turbo. Either way, the idle drain of the turbo was incredibly disappointing coming from a G2.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
I'm at 89% and have been off the charger for 8 hours. Thats with me doing some browsing, texting, using my phone as a timer, BT time, and camera snaps. Oh, while on LTE and Wifi. Light usage, but not idle the entire time either.

I doubt the G2 does better.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
I lose 2% max overnight. I don't see an issue.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
With greenify it does. I have some screenshots of like 12 hours still at 100%. And losing 2% over night? In airplane mode?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Nope, just idle.

Screenshots at 100% for 12 hours would be what we call, falsified results, either by the app or the user. That isn't even possible.

Maybe Greenify is tweaking your battery readout levels lol.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
I was wrong, it was 9 hours. And 2% overnight with everything on? Ss or it didn't happen....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] DoctorB0NG:
The G2 battery is calibrated very strangley and stays at 100% for an unnatural amount of time. Regardless, my Turbo would lose 8-9% overnight. That's with -50 to -55 dbm LTE and -75 dbm 5 GHz wifi. This was with location off, autosync on and with few wakelocks. My G2 in that same situations loses 1-2%.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Like I said, falsified by user or program.

1%? Sure, in the perfect scenario. None at all? No.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
The S5 and Note 4 also do that. It is an artificial cosmetic change to make it look like they keep battery longer. It is a kernel tweak but just like OEMs that change buffer settings to make it look like their network speeds are faster, it is false.

I'll screenshot my DT tomorrow morning.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] DoctorB0NG:
Regardless, when my G2 isn't at 100%, it loses 1-2% overnight and the turbo was notably worse. When's it's at 100%, it stays there for 10-12 hours when it's idling.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
You already said the G2 is calibrated weirdly. It might stay at 100%, but the battery

is

not

at 100% during that period. Just like signal bars aren't a true indicator, neither are graphical (or sometimes math is used) indicators of battery percentage. The truth is in the battery reporting at a much lower level, which I am certain you are not monitoring.

Battery drain isn't linear. That said, I will screenshot my Turbo in the morning. Maybe I am remembering incorrectly, but I don't think so.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
I believe the way LG does it is its a less than situation. So it registers 100% for anything over 99.1%. That's still a loss of less than 1% over 9 hours. Which is good. Mind you, it didn't happen every single time. But overall, the idle drain on the lg g2 was much better than the Droid turbo. I personally average 8 to 10 percent overnight. A large chunk of that is due to cell standby. I also only have about two bars at home though. So that could be a factor. I'm not one of those that turns everything off though. I'm not obsessed with getting 70 hours of battery life. All I need it is a solid 18 hours or so. And I'm good to go.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cyberr8der:
I have a G2 and it stays at 100% longer than it should but once it starts dropping it's at a faster pace. For example I would get 6 hours before it dropped to 99 but then and 6 hours after that it would be at 94. I always chalked it up to strange calibration.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Yep, thats all it is. Just a software trick.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wynnded:
Sounds like the fuel gauge trick in my Toyota.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joderme:
Do you have the key to cold fusion too?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
I had about 9 screenshots showing anywhere between 8 to 10 hours on screen time. 56 hours. All kinds of goodies. Also links to tons of reviews stating that the g2 had the best battery of any phone in 2013. And then I realized who I was talking to, and every single post you have is pretty much negative. No matter what I say, you're going to argue with it so what's the point. I could tell you the sky's blue and your going to tell me its red. I provide facts, you provide opinions.

I love my droid turbo, I'm just not naive.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cyberr8der:
I wouldn't say your providing facts man. I have both phones in the same house and the turbos battery is much better than the G2's. Just because that how it works in my household doesn't make it a fact. The only fact we know is the turbo has a bigger battery than the G2 by nearly 25%. You're one user with one opinion and that opinion isn't fact. No need to get all snippy at others because they may not agree with you.

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Ps. I do believe the G2 has the best battery of 2013 as you stated. But not 2014......
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
Maybe I'm wrong then. So, your rooted g2 with greenify doesn't have better stand by time then the droid turbo?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
So my first run was 95%.

That said, you can look at the screenshot and see that I can tweak it some and get it down to probably 2-3%. I know I did before, I just don't know the circumstances. It wasn't airplane mode as mentioned.

I'll keep messing with it. I think if I put it back on VoLTE and turned off WiFi, I would have hit the mark. I see some other tweaks I can do as well.

First test was worse than I expected, but I can optimize it. Def. not 10%+ loss like mentioned though.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Here is how not to be naive. Monitor the actual battery reporting level instead of using software bars and LG's customizations to read it.

The naive part here is you thinking you can run at less than 1% for 9 hours on an Android device with a what, 3000 maH battery?

My Nexus 7 with a much larger battery cannot even do that.

I was willing to let this go, but your insistence on this silliness brought it back up.

It is a software trick to hang out at 100% longer than normal. It is an easy tweak and as we saw, a misleading one. Manufacturers like to do this. HTC used to modify their buffer settings to make their network throughput look better than others in speed tests. Samsung used to max out their GPU and CPU during benches to get higher scores. In an OTA, HTC actually added ANOTHER signal bar to the notification bar just to make their signal look better despite weak radios. Pretty sure that was on the Thunderbolt.

Stop buying into the hype. If the G2 could honestly sip battery like you said, it would have a standby time of over a month. Between this and trying a program that could not root the Turbo despite you being told otherwise and the video being faked (your words)..... 0 for 2 my friend.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
I doubt even that.

http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-battery-tests-are-done-here-are-the-results/

http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-kitkat-battery-test/

None of these even compared it to the Droid Maxx.

zathus: Lets see you pull off 38 days of standby (assumes 1% drain for every 9 hours), which you imply the G2 can do with greenify and root. I sincerely hope you try this, and not say something like "it drains faster after the 100% drops", because then you justified everything I said about it being a manufacturer software trick.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
I had the g2. Actually I had two. I know for a fact it cant last longer than 48 hours unless u just charge and dont use it. Another thing I know about the g2 is when you go to battery under settings it shows an ungodly estimated percentage for the battery. I think at one time it showed 120 hours left on 50%. No way. The g2 wasnt the best device for 2013 battery wise. If anything its the motorola phones. Motorola has been upping their game since google own them. Get yours facts right dude [MENTION=1982944]zathus[/MENTION].
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
To be fair, Moto also enhances the SoCs in their Moto X and Droid lines as of last year. They include features that would normally drain the battery, but have them set to use two low powered cores, preventing the need to wake the main Snapdragon CPU. While not perfect, it helps offset a decent chunk of normal Android drainers.

Yes--the Motorola Computing System (formerly known as X8) is alive and well in these devices according to Motorola.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cyberr8der:
I'm having a hard time believing this conversation is still going on lol. If the G2 is better for you just use it man.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
I'm not even going to quote all that lol. But I never said the g2 was better. Also never said it had 38 days of stand by time. I said it had better idle time. That's it! And many reviews did call it the battery king. I don't own every phone of 2013 so I cannot make that claim. Reviewers! Not me... I also never claimed 48 hours of use lol. But many have. So, it is doable.

But yes, let's drop this. And to the root thing, I myself said that I'm 99.9% sure it wouldnt work. I only asked if someone actually tried it. And that turned into a huge argument lol

And I 100% that moto stepped up there game. Best OEM by far.

And I will try to see how long the g2 will do standing by.. Just because.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
Just bringing up a fact where u stated the lg g2 wasnt better, but in this quote above you plainly state that the lg g2 idle drain is better than the droid turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] chris2507:
good so far

It's the third time i've charged my phone.

Active dsply off

Nfc off

Location off

Bloat disabled
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wynnded:
I just looked at mine this morning after charging before going to sleep last night. After eight hours it was showing 98%. I'd post a current SS, but I don't know how to natively take one on this device, or can I only do that with an app?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
My guess is this the the maxx not the turbo. Am I correct?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
Omg dude lol the iPhone 6+ takes better pictures then the droid turbo. Omg guys looks he's saying the iPhone 6 is better then the DT!! Don't be such a tool man. There are a lot of phones that do a lot of things better then others. I'm saying it does ONE thing better. I was unaware that idle drain was the only feature of a phone that mattered to determine which phone is best. But that's cool, all the reviews on YouTube are going to be a lot shorter now! Quit trying to make something bigger than it is you freaking troll
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
Its not trolling when u claim false facts. Like the rooting video....remember?