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[Xperia Z3 General] dhaliwal925:
I did not do this on purpose.

You don't have to believe me, I don't believe everything I read on the internet either.

I wish it was a photoshop!

I wouldn't necessarily say this is impossible, because it happened. And you are right it might be some of my fault - I listed exactly what I did with the phone.

I want a well built sleek looking device just as much as the next guy, but I am not going to pay upwards for $600 for a premium quality phone only to cover it up with a cheap looking $30 plastic case. If manufacturers are going to make thinner phones at the expense of their structural integrity, I rather just have a slightly thicker device. I didn’t do anything different with this phone, used it like I have used any phone I have had before this, and I expect it to perform just as well as the others.

My purpose to post on XDA was to warm like-minded phone enthusiasts of the possibility that the phone might be not structurally suited for certain activities – it is unfortunate that it comes at a time where this whole “bendgate” thing is throwing everything out of proportion. If I really wanted to get some publicity or make some money off of this, XDA would not be the place to post – there are other mediums that are far more lucrative.

So take it with a grain of salt - or don't believe me, I really could careless I am just letting whoever is willing to take a hard look at this device to be careful.
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
I for one feel sorry for you, if what you say is true.

My first phone was indented towards the LCD out of the box near the power button.

The quality control on this phone maybe because it is the early batches, is pretty bad. Hopefully with newer batches QC will be improved. I am on my third phone here. A TMO rep personally went through like 5-6 devices before he came out with a one with no gaps. They are going to now check their entire stock.
[Xperia Z3 General] Mity85:
Interesting how it's happening near the power button, just like the iPhone 6+. The phones may be lacking structural rigidity as they get longer. This video shows a guy giving a pretty strong bend test to the Z3 Compact and although it flexes, it doesn't bend. It makes sense that if you increase the length without providing adequate support, it will be easier to bend. I don't think this is impossible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guF8uBKfyQk

Just googling xperia z3 bends shows the same thing happening with the Z1

http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/01/13/bent-xperia-z1-handsets-reported-by-some-users/

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2536751

Aluminum is a soft metal. The fact that manufacturers use them in their phones is stupid, in my opinion. I really like the polycarbonate Nokias (from a material standpoint). Nokias have been rock hard since the 900 series.

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Yah, I bet he works for Apple too. Because that means he's got loads of cash and can buy $650 phones and bend them to make Sony look bad <sarcasm>.
[Xperia Z3 General] pwn1ca:
[MENTION=4803268]dhaliwal925[/MENTION]

http://www.witrigs.com/oem-middle-frame-for-sony-xperia-z3-grey

Maybe this is an option for you? I don't know how expensive such a replacement would be	though
[Xperia Z3 General] shahzaib.khan:
You need to give you phone back to sony because they are replacing their products if you take back within 2 weeks
[Xperia Z3 General] Pillington:
Defective Z3

I believe you and your story about the bent z3, I bought mine unlocked from sony the day it came out in Canada (Oct 31) still hadn't activated it with my carrier (Rogers) as I was waiting for my now that I realize it cheap case mate case. Anyway was just using it around the house getting it set up and and what not app wise and realized it had a hairline crack in the aluminum perimeter on the LCD side of the power button. So I contacted Sony Care online and explained the situation, they said it was likely a flaw in the aluminum and to return it for exchange without any issue and sorry for the trouble as it was so newly purchased. I asked if it would use up my extended coverage warranty and they said no as it seemed to be a defect in the Z3. So just at the end of the live online chat I took a screenshot of the conversation and took my phone to the sony store the following day.

Talked to an employee at first and they said "ooo.... that's no good, hang on I'll get the manger to help you" so I waited a couple minutes and the manager comes out looks and the phone, and then asks what happened? I told him that I hadn't activated the phone because i was waiting for a case and noticed the day after I bought it that there was what i thought was a hair on the casing until i realized the aluminum was cracked, explained what sony care and i had discussed and that I was looking to get a replacement to the defective phone. He pretty much called me a liar and then proceeded to try to disprove my testimony by saying the aluminum in that area is thin because of the hole for the power button. So I came back at him as restrained as I could and said that well you're proving that this phone is defective and needs to be replaced under your own admission. He continued to try to disprove my claim of a defect even though the phone was in mint condition aside from this crack. And then asked me if i had it in writing from sony that this would be considered defective. So I came right back at him and said resoundingly YES IN FACT I DO! So I emailed him the screenshot of the conversation and have yet to hear back about my phone.

What pisses me off about all of this is, He tries to get out of replacing the phone (even though I have a full extended coverage accidental damage warranty, meaning i could bring my phone back in 20 pieces and still get a new phone but one time only) And then tries to call me a liar repeatedly (without calling me one but implying it over and over) and then all of a sudden has no phones to replace it with and will have to send mine back to toronto to validate my claim and then decide the next course of action, and oh if I could send him a copy of the live chat. Why the hell do i need to prove that a three day old phone that's been sitting on my nightstand is obviously defective and needs replacing?

I like Sony, i have a Z1 tablet, ps4, etc. But f#ck me, stand behind your product, and show some compassion for a loyal customer. I came away from my experience just wanting to knock out the manager.
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
Damn, thats horrible, TMO people are really nice compared to your carrier.
[Xperia Z3 General] Pillington:
Hahaha I bought it directly from Sony
[Xperia Z3 General] dhaliwal925:
That's horrible! At least Sony should be more customer friendly regarding this issue. The problem is the retail employee's and the customer service rep's goals don't match up and that ends up creating problems for us! But a manager for the store should never make you feel like you are not worth their trouble - I would definitely bring this up if you talk to another rep. Try to find another Sony store nearby, if possible. I know in my area, we have a couple.

I have always praised Sony for their elegant products, but lately their quality is starting to suffer. The company as a whole needs to get themselves back together - this is exactly what happens when you get to the top and stay their for a while, you get complacent. But when the industry shifts, you are left catching up. Sony is still trying to catch up, but at the cost to quality.
[Xperia Z3 General] Jonathan-H:
All I can say about this is never buy a phone direct from anyone. All phones are just too temperamental, Iphones, Sony's, Samsung's the lot, and i've had or used pretty much all of them. I've never once had a perfect phone.

Always get it with insurance.
[Xperia Z3 General] poldie:
You did *not* warp your glass by using the phone in an armband, because glass is not bendable under anything like those conditions.

Next.
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
Gorilla glass is fairly flexible, I know because I had to replace a cracked one on my G2 you can almost get it into a partial U shape lol, before it breaks. I don't know how it could warp exactly as it practically bounces back to form.
[Xperia Z3 General] poldie:
Neither Sony or Corning state that the Z3 uses Gorilla glass. Unofficially I've heard Sony representatives state that both Gorilla glass and Dragontrail X glass is used. I suspect that means that each device build uses one or the other, not both at the same time.
[Xperia Z3 General] dhaliwal925:
Stick two pieces of semi bendable glass around a hollow metal frame...bend the frame with the glass still stuck on the frame...walla warped glass...

Next...
[Xperia Z3 General] dhaliwal925:
Its my understanding that Gorilla glass is used for the front panel because of its clarity, and Dragontail on the back because of its strength. Whatever the case you can't have shatter proof glass if it can't flex to deflect some of the pressure applied to it from small falls and bumps.
[Xperia Z3 General] poldie:
Do you have a source for that? Not being combative, just seems that Sony aren't saying, so anything anyone says needs to be taken with a pinch of salt...
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
On Sony support forum someone asked about the Z3 Compact front glass, they said either Dragontrail or Gorilla Glass 3 could be used on front, nothing was mentioned about the back glass. I think that is what he is reffering to.
[Xperia Z3 General] dhaliwal925:
I think you guys are right I was reffering to a Reddit post, but it looks like it just links back to the thread Abhinav is talking about - so my information is not valid...
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...ss-is-on-Xperia-Z3-Compact/m-p/838927#U838927

Rickard of Sony Xperia support says the Z3C can come with either DTX or GG3 for front glass, I don't know if this applies to the Z3 as well but could be. This is the thread people keep referring to.
[Xperia Z3 General] mph1967:
Xperia Z3 Bends

My Z3 recently bent under moderate pressure in the back pocket of some loose shorts. Trying to get Sony or Telstra (one of Australia's largest telecommunications companies) to believe me is another thing.
[Xperia Z3 General] poldie:
Sure, but even that is just some guy who works in support. Believe me, if there were using Gorilla they - and Corning - would be singing about it from the rooftops as it's a major selling point.
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
Well whatever the front, the back is pretty soft, I already have scratches on the back bottom near the frame.

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Back pocket is never a good idea, most "latest gen" phones can't take that much force. You would be surprised how much force you can exert on a phone that way, plus the bigger/thinner the device the more likely it will bend. Well other than maybe the NOTE4 with the "Butt test" they keep advertising lol. I doubt Sony or your carrier will write it off, they will blame you. Use wooden blocks and clamps, that's what people used to unbend iPhone 5/s with, from what I've seen it works very well.

Butt test: They actually put pants on the machine (FF to 1:15) :D.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrhCz6PnT78
[Xperia Z3 General] jmcstevenson:
My bent Z3

Any luck getting Sony to replace your phone? Whats happened so far?

I bought a copper Z3 from Rogers the day it was released; 24 hours after I bought it a friend noticed it was bent (at the power button) from several feet away.. I wear loose fitting slacks.

We went into rogers and they said, after calling Sony, that it was the first 'reported' case in north America, and that Sony wanted us to call them. We did this and they said they hadn't heart of this happening so please send the phone into the repair terminal and we'll go from there. We called them today, a week after mailing it in for an update and they tell us no update available. 20 minutes later I get an email stating that they examined it and it's $209 plus tax to repair a 'bent main frame'. If I don't want the repair they're saying I have to pay them $25 for the diagnostics test.. you mean them looking at it on the table?

I attached the pictures Sony emailed to me.
[Xperia Z3 General] dhaliwal925:
Mine bent from the same location.
[Xperia Z3 General] Dom3000:
Take care of your devices and they would not bend
[Xperia Z3 General] id3alistic:
Idk I'm really skeptical about this. What are you guys doing with your devices? lol. I don't even use cases for my phones and I never have any problems in 4 smartphones I've had.

Why would you put this phone in your back pocket anyway? It's so big. Are you girls? Only girls do that, lol.
[Xperia Z3 General] xxquicksh0txx:
^^ This is what I'm saying, you shouldn't be putting your device in a place where it -could- bend.

Regardless if the device is a little bendy or not, it won't bend under normal conditions.

It's not going to bend in half with no pressure...
[Xperia Z3 General] Dom3000:
Amount of people making fool of themselves with pictures of their bent and cracked phones claiming that it damaged by itself or by normal use is ridiculously high after bendgate affair. Every phone is bendable and every phone can crack if you treat it like it is a sledgehammer.
[Xperia Z3 General] crusian:
Mine is bent now too. Opposite side of the power button. Never dropped or put in back pocket. Always front pocket, loose pants. No clue how this could have happened. But it happened today or yesterday, as my usb cover is hard to open now. been playing a game on it a lot today, and it got hot...
[Xperia Z3 General] ghostofcain:
Is that the same Z2 released Q2 2014?
[Xperia Z3 General] player911:
But will it blend?
[Xperia Z3 General] AwesomeTurtle:
Meh. My jeans are fairly slim-fit, and I've yet to encounter any unnatural curvature. It could also be because I'm more careful with this phone than any other; struck me as common sense that I'd need to be a little more delicate with my first ever mostly-glass-and-metal phone.
[Xperia Z3 General] Jmando:
Happened to me.

I agree. Same thing happened to me and bottom line is I have to be more careful with this thin gorgeous phone. It's a shame it happens but it's not a deal breaker for me. Still love this phone.

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I wear dickies work pants which are by no means tight. Had the phone in the back pocket and kneeled down to fix something which did put some pressure on the phone and when I pulled it out it was bent. Bent it back right away and it is fine. Sucks that it happens and it shouldn't but it's the reality of it. I love this phone and am jus gonna be more careful. Best phone I've ever owned and I've owned them all.
[Xperia Z3 General] megacrazy:
I am not sure what you guys are doing with these phones but it takes way more than "moderate pressure" to bend one of these phones. I suggest you don't treat them like they're solid metal bricks. If I was a carrier or a store I would not replace either of your phones. You bent them. Going into arguments over what grades of aluminum was used or the structural integrity of the phone doesn't change the fact that you either sat on them or used them in an way they weren't meant to be used.
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
I saw some bend tests, apparently it doesn't bend very easily. Obviously unlike plastic framed phones if it does bend, it wont go back to form automatically, which is what people were probably used to.
[Xperia Z3 General] ghostofcain:
What's the vertu Bentley phone like? I'd love to try one but they wouldn't even let me in the door. :D
[Xperia Z3 General] Jmando:
It was oook. Had a cheap build quality :)
[Xperia Z3 General] f1seb:
I was curious about this myself since seeing this thread. I went into the Sony store to look at the Z3 for the possibly 2nd time....Ok I'm lying 3rd time. I simply love the phone and would like it to be my next. I played around with the software, ran some benchmarks, etc. Then as I was about to leave, I remembered that this phone maybe a bit bendy. So I picked up the floor model and I applied some pressure at opposite sides. And to my amazement it started to bend very easily. I had it bent out of it's normal shape pretty far out not exerting much force at all.. I motioned to my friend to look at the phone and he was surprised. He even said: "WOW you're going to have to buy this model cause you just probably broke it." As soon as I let it go it returned back to it's normal straight shape. But this had me thinking. I was probably the 1st one in that store to do this to that phone, and metal fatigue makes metals lose their strength over repeated use. From what I'm thinking, is that people are putting the phones in their pockets and since they can't see the phone bending they believe that it's not bending at all. I'm sure somebody will come in here and tell me they would feel the phone bend or see it with their x-ray vision, or something silly like that. Hence when they take it out it's straight and normal again.

But if you repeat this particular process over and over, eventually, I believe that this phone will come out with a slight bend and it won't be able to straighten itself. And that's my expert opinion, expert being that I work in the manufacturing sector of very high precision aircraft/commercial parts, which 95% of them are made out of aluminium.
[Xperia Z3 General] N3w_Typ3:
Woo this is really bad.

I got my Z3 in late OCT.

I am from Asia.

So far so good for me.

Not sure about others but Aluminum frame stuffs tends to bend. yes They could be flexible metal but it strongly depends on the grade of the metal that was used.

I uses a Glass SP to check on my phone and before by current bumper, I was using a silicon case. During the silicon case period. I was so paranoid, l because sometimes depending on how I sit down, the pocket area on my pants will be very tight. I am always afraid the shape changes.

To prevent any more of these worries, I got myself a harden Aluminum bumper to do the job and lift my worries.

I am going to share this thread with my fellow Z3 friends!

Thanks for the feedback. Thinner does not means better ><'''
[Xperia Z3 General] :
Looks more like the Xperia Arc S :D Never put the phone in places where it bends a lot. Be careful with the battery. It might heat more than usual.
[Xperia Z3 General] Johann_London:
How could you have had the Z2 for two years when the phone has only been out for 9 months, huh?
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
Interesting, considereing 2 years ago even the first Z was not avilable. :D
[Xperia Z3 General] Eric Violette:
OOOOOOOOOOHHH.. Someone got busted! lol
[Xperia Z3 General] J4G3D:
This is going to sound crazy, but i noticed the bending on my Z3 too. Not as bad as the OP or others i've seen but definitely noticeable when holding it up in the light.

Anyway my phone developed a problem with the orange tinge on the left hand side, so i needed to make a warranty ticket. I knew if they saw the bend they'd return it with a 20 GBP charge as stated in their terms.

So...........

Are you ready for this?

I took off my ultra thin 0.3mm rubber cover from the back of the phone and placed it on the front. I stole 2 books from the wife (yes reading books), i placed them on the floor and placed the Z3 across so that 5/10mm of the bottom is on one book and 5/10mm of the top is on the other, creating a bridge... with my phone being a bridge. I then grabbed some 2.5kg cast iron weights and carefully placed the rim/edge of the weight to the edge of the phone, i secured it safely so that it couldn't fall. I then put the same on the other side but i put this weight flat (disc side down) while resting the other half of it on another book (because this side was least bent). I left it 2 hours and then came back and checked it, it was a lot better but still nto straight. So i put it all back and put 0.5kg weights on top of the existing weights slowly until eventually my frame was 100% straight.

I know it sounds crazy and i WOULD NOT ADVISE you do exactly the same as you can easily bust your phone completely. But i took that chance because even if i did bust my screen, a used original replacement was 50GBP so not end of the world and i would of fitted it all myself. Anyway today i packaged the phone up to ship back for warranty repair on the screen, i shall let you know if it will go through ok. Wish me luck lol.
[Other Tools & General Discussion] nnyerges:
The following code, is a simple example of programmatically "WITHOUT XML" translate animation, that works perfect on all versión bellow Android 4.4.2, but does nothing on Android 4.4.2. It's really making me crazy!

Any ideas why?

Tested and working OK on: EMULATOR AVD with 4.1.2 (API 16), EMULATOR AVD with 4.2.2 (API 17), EMULATOR AVD with 4.3.1 (API 18), Galaxy Tab 3 (4.1.2), Surprice, surprice.....works on my Galaxy NOTE with Omnirom 4.4.4

Not Working on: EMULATOR AVD with 4.4.2 (API 19), Galaxy S4 (4.4.2), Galaxy Note 3 (4.4.2)

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