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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ImpheOtus:
Come on... that can't be true!! :(

Any hint on what went wrong?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cliberti:
Looking at your one image it shows it also has WCDMA (UTMS) Band IV. Can you confirm because this is used by t-mobile and also is not listed in the specs.

What does QPST and QXDM do? Anything specifically I need to look out for here?

If everything checks out I will be ordering this for myself for t-mobile
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Bilhouse:
You would think so, but the official Motorola blog has only announced it for 'Brazil, Mexico and other Latin American countries'. There is no mention of other territories. If this turns out to be true, then this would be a complete joke. What about the UK, Europe, India, China etc?

Motorola are a joke of a company. First they delayed the original Moto X in the UK by over 6 months with no Moto Maker or 32GB model. Then they have major payment problems with the Moto X 2nd Gen in the UK. And most recently the UK/EU pre-orders of the Nexus 6 are delayed until later in November.

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Yes. The 4G LTE bands support 1800 and 2600MHz. So it will work on EE and Three but not on O2 and Vodafone. We need to wait for a possible European model to launch for it to work on 800MHz, but this is looking increasingly unlikely for this year.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zaibrockstar:
Should I buy it from Brazil ?

Guys,

Few Questions,

I am in US and don't want Verizon bolt ware. Now that I see the link to buy the phone from Brazil.

1) whats are options to buy it and import to US ?

2) Should i wait for re seller for cheaper price and direct buy like (Amazon/ebay/swappa ) ?

Regards

Zaib
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] krabman:
We know one variant went through the FCC with freqs that would work on AT&T in the US, Rogers in Canada, and quite a number of the countries in South America but I don't recall off hand which countries. I'm thinking this is the one that was introduced today. They would need a second variant to make it a global release with a different spread of freqs. I also note that chainfire has rooted the N9. Good news that, it turns out lollipop can be rooted.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Galaxo60:
From the announcement and page in Motorola Mexico:

LTE Cat 4 (Bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 17)

UMTS / HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)

GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

:cowboy:

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It would be easier to buy it from Mexico, besides mexican price is cheaper than Brazil.

Price in Brazil is around $870 USD, meanwhile price in Mexico is just $660 USD, almost the same than in US.

There will be only one model in Mexico, the ballistic nylon 64gb.

:good:

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Maybe Motorola is focusing in America only, because Moto Maker for the first and second generation were really fast here, less than a month after the US release. It could be that Motorola is not focusing in Euorpe or Asia because there are already many companies there, like Oppo, Xiaomi, Sony, Samsung and LG, while no one is really focusing here.

Maybe that's why Motorola make this silly things in Europe.

:confused:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Jaocagomez:
Omg its official!!! its coming !! 8999 pesos ≈ 660 USD

64Gb ballistic nylon only!

coming unlocked directly from motorola page.

http://www.motorola.com.mx/consumers/mobile-phones/Moto-Maxx/moto-maxx-mx.html

and most importantly, seeing its coming directly from motorola will be bootloader unlockeable! no verizon locks!

its time to say goodbye to my oneplus one.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] y2jdmbfan:
Anyone tried to order one yet?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] krabman:
The Brazil link isn't clickable for me and I have an inquiry into expansys asking if and when it will be for sale. Not sure that I could get it shipped out of Brazil but who knows...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Onismurai:
Anyone can double check if this band works with T-Mobile network or not?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Fulbring:
Oh damn... So it won't work with AWS -1700/2100 Bands? :(
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Galaxo60:
Here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56536058&postcount=33

:good:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Fulbring:
So I know T-Mobile run on LTE somewhat in the US. I want to get this in Canada with an AWS 1700/2100 Band. Will it still work?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] respider:
Should we get another forum specifically for Moto Maxx? Since probably its bootloader will be easily unlockable in a near future.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] krabman:
I was figuring they would, while the hardware is mostly the same CDMA versus GSM combined with Verizons all encompassing master of the universe BS that those guys have to deal with makes the handsets different enough to warrant it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Kiwironic:
So any updates on this?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] krabman:
I'm (not so) patiently waiting for the phone to hit in Mexico. If there are no importers stepping up at that time I'm likely to walk across the border while I'm down there in a few weeks and make a pickup depending on the bootloader status being updated by early adopters. If the bootloader cant be unlocked then this isn't my next phone.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Kiwironic:
I agree, bootloader and root are a reasonable request for a top phone for geeks.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Jaocagomez:
Release date its tomorrow, we will see some reviews from the mexican media
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Kiwironic:
Moto Maxx won’t be available in Europe says Motorola
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jason56d:
Just seen that and was about to post myself.

That sucks big time!

Cannot understand the logic behind that at all. Would have been a major seller in every market I think.

Oh well, back to deciding if I want the phablet Nexus 6 or keep my N5 for a bit longer.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gordonzhao:
It'll work with tmobile. I'm using it in Chicago on tmobile
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
You are correct that the official specs do not list that UMTS/HSPA band (1700) which QPST/mzTool shows is enabled. But there's a discrepancy. One UMTS band (900) listed in the official specs does not show up here. So, I'm a little confused why.

Perhaps someone who has used QPST/mzTool a whole lot can explain why? It's one thing to leave out a mention in the specs of an LTE band that is really enabled (Apple did it back in 2012), but it's another to have UMTS 1700 enabled instead of 900. Some phones have a secret menu you can access with dialing code and it will confirm all the bands on the phone. I have not been able to find that on this phone. And I have no way of checking independently.

These are the 2G/3G capabilities enabled out of the box in the Moto Maxx, according to QPST/mzTool. (And HSPA is 3G, despite what T-mobile and AT&T call it in marketing. LTE is true 4G.)

You find this by looking for line 1877 in QPST, then opening mzTool. If you see the "decimal" value, that will change, depending on the various 2G/3G bands that are enabled.

This list does NOT include LTE bands. mzTool (part of QPST) does not handle LTE. I wish it did. :rolleyes:

Because then from THIS page, you could easily checkmark to enable/disable what you want. ;)

Instead you have to then open QXDM/NV browswer to handle LTE bands.

You go to a certain line (6828), see the value, then calculate the new value you wish using the Qualcomm NV calculator app. It works sort of like the QPST mzTool, but you download it from the Google Play store. Each value is total amount (sum) of various separate values in the LTE bands. There's two or three threads that explain it in detail.

But bottom line, that certain line number is only for LTE, and for the "official LTE bands" as stated by Motorola, it would be this value...

If only LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 17 were enabled it would be this:

It's not, instead it's this value:

...which corresponds exactly to the value of LTE bands 2, 3, 4,5, 7, 17. (LTE band 5 was enabled in the FCC tests. This NV value shows LTE band 5 is STILL enabled, out of the box.) These are the LTE bands already enabled, out of the box, in spite of the "official" specs.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Jaocagomez:
Motorola has been cancelling foreign credit card payments, i guess my service its over.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
[MENTION=2920544]Jaocagomez[/MENTION], thank you so much for what you did to help us get this fantastic phone into our hands. I'm glad Latin America has the Moto Maxx -- but the rest of the world should also. Even here in the USA, it was frustrating to see just Verizon get it (as the Droid Turbo).

THIS was the phone that should have been the Nexus 6. It should have been for the world.

So, thank you for helping to break the blockade. :good:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Jaocagomez:
I'm pretty sure it's just matter of time they release it , let's assume verizon paid 6 Months exclusive, count 6 months since launch, so it would be around April, but who knows what kind of devices we will have at that time
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Skrilax_CZ:
There actually is a firmware for XT1250 (non-vzw US firmware).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
What is the XT1250? Which Motorola phone is that?

For the Motorola Droid Turbo (XT1254) I'm not aware of any non-Verizon U.S. firmware. The Droid Turbo has locked bootloader and still no root.

On the Moto Maxx (XT1225), we have unlockable bootloader, root and TWRP. Many people including myself have posted images. We can install Xposed framework, Gravity Box and other Xposed apps to get custom ROM features. The Moto Maxx runs on AT&T and T-mobile.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Skrilax_CZ:
I don't know, I just saw the firmware and that it is US one (and it is XT1250 and a variant of Droid Turbo / Moto MAXX). No more info than that (it could have been cancelled etc.). I was just referring to [MENTION=2920544]Jaocagomez[/MENTION] when he has doubts for VZW exclusivity, that there is something about it :P
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Gundabolu SC:
So you are not gonna give up on it right? :( Pleaaaseeeee get the Maxxxx... :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Skrilax_CZ:
Got one on e-bay (for $699) :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] hidea:
not all hope is lost! ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lovetohustle:
I'm deciding to sell my mint condition unlocked Moto Maxx XT1225 for anybody interested you can check it out at: http://swappa.com/listing/YEI583/view#

Added new pictures.

Lowered price to $630 for quick sale!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] prodigalOne:
Your prior post history shows you to be using Verizon, after a quick search?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] force70:
Guess you didnt realize selling is no longer permitted here on xda?

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3 or 2
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lovetohustle:
No I didn't know that.

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No I never used Verizon, always used either T-Mobile or At&t.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Kiwironic:
I got myself one from Ebay as well $699 including shipping from Puerto Rico
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] tornado6:
too bad u dont ship internationally... :(

it's so hard to find a droid turbo or moto maxx in this part of the world without paying exorbitant price...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BamBamSprint:
I'm the eBay seller from Puerto Rico on eBay!!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lovetohustle:
Are you willing to pay for entire shipping cost,insurance with tracking? Please let me know.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pableyva:
I got mine paying with debit card(Banamex/MasterCard) and everything was fine :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Kiwironic:
Oh cool, thanks for that, can't wait to get my hands on it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Kiwironic:
I should have asked for a discount then :) since we are fellow XDA-Developers
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bajasur:
Can something link me to a us version of the moto Maxx (non vzw). Very curious to see this, thanks!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Jaocagomez:
We all know it exists but we haven't seen it yet.

Off topic: I changed my one plus one for Moto maxx, I'm one of yours now.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it doesn't. At this point, if it hasn't been launched on other carriers. Its not going too. At least not officially.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bajasur:
I don't know why t mobile and other carriers didn't jump on this device, i would have easily gotten it over my nexus 6.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
because Verizon obviously negotiated with Motorola for some kind of U.S.A. exclusivity. (6 months, model year?) Luckily we know how to get around that. ;)

The non-Verizon version of the Droid Turbo for the U.S. is called the Moto Maxx (XT1225). ;) There were rumors AT&T was going to get a "Moto X Play", but it looks like the exact same phone that went through the FCC was re-named the Moto Maxx. Same FCC ID number. Still totally compatible with AT&T (LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17) in spite of "official" Motorola specs not mentioning LTE band 5. The Moto Maxx has LTE band 5 enabled.

The only improvement this phone could have, in my opinion, is OIS rear camera -- like my Nexus 5 had and the Nexus 6 has. Other than that, I appreciate the larger battery the Moto Maxx has over the Nexus 6. (So much better than my Nexus 5!) And I certainly appreciate the better overall size the Moto Maxx has over Nexus 6.

Plus the Moto Maxx has both Kevlar AND ballistic nylon. (Yes, it has BOTH. The Kevlar layer is underneath the ballistic nylon) and comes in 64GB internal storage model only. Arguably BETTER than the Nexus 6. OIS for rear camera would make it perfect. For the price Motorola is charging, not sure why they didn't include it?

Both also have Qi wireless charging, which is important to me since I used it so much for my two Nexus 5 phones.

Moto Maxx has unlockable bootloader, root, TWRP -- unlike the Verizon Droid Turbo variant. :rolleyes:

And current new pricing on eBay, Swappa from Puerto Rico (U.S. territory with U.S. Priority Mail) is $630 - $680. Just make sure the phone is sim-card unlocked by seller when buying. Mexico Moto Maxx phones straight from Motorola are already unlocked, but Puerto Rico Moto Maxx is sold in Claro stores and is sim-card locked to that carrier. Easily unlocked, sellers will usually do it for you.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bajasur:
Thanks for all the information, did not realize Maxx didn't have ois lens, that's a bummer. Maybe I will just hold out for next gen, things will only get better I think.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Well, for me the Moto Maxx was the only choice.

It's what the Nexus 6 should have been. Google was testing a 5.2" version...

It's even what the 2014 Moto X should have been.

The Moto Maxx/Droid Turbo and the (Motorola) Nexus 6 are the first two phones Motorola has made in years with leading, top tier specs. The 2013 Moto X had 4.7" 720p display when all top tier Androids had 1080p. It was bascially a re-hash of the 2012 4.7", 720p Nexus 4/LG Optimus G. Motorola was a year behind. For Motorola to release that 2013 Moto X at practically the same time LG released the awesome 5.2" 1080p LG G2, with Snapdragon 800, 13 megapixel rear camera with OIS -- the phone on which the Nexus 5 was based -- was embarrassing for Motorola. And they priced it like it was top tier phone (over $600). :rolleyes: Same price as the LG G2. Seriously? Then, when the Nexus 5 was released ($350/$400), with Qi wireless charging even, it really got hot in the room. And this is when Google owned Motorola.

Only when Moto cut the price of the 2013 Moto X down to mid-tier levels -- because it was a mid-tier phone -- did it start to sell.

Then, the 2014 Moto X was basically a copy of the 2013 LG G2! 5.2" 1080p, 2GB RAM, Snapdragon 801 (instead of 800, slight upgrade), 13 megapixel rear camera, 2.x megapixel front camera, 32 GB internal storage. BUT the 2013 LG G2 has OIS rear camera and 3000 mAh battery, while the 2014 Moto X has only 2300 mAh battery and no rear camera OIS. With the LG G2 receiving Lollipop, I can easily make a case that the 2013 LG G2 not only beat the 2013 Moto X but is also better than the 2014 Moto X! :silly: The 2014 LG G3 is easily better than the 2014 Moto X! 3GB RAM, 1440p, rear camera OIS, Qi wireless charging (for most carriers, not all), 3000 mAh battery...

My point is both the 2103 and 2014 "flagship" phones from Motorola were not in the same league as the LG G2, LG G3 or top tier phones from Samsung and HTC. They were excellent "mid tier" phones, but not top tier. Nothing wrong with that, if you price accordingly... But for the Nexus 6 to replace my Nexus 5, I wanted something at least like the 5.2" LG G2 -- but with Snadragon 805, 1440p, 3GB RAM, and 64GB storage option.

The size of the Nexus 6 Google released disappointed me. This Moto Maxx is close enough to my desired specs. OIS on rear camera would be nice, but the 3900 mAh battery more than compensates. I was SO tired of the skimpy batteries Google put in the gen3 Galaxy Nexus and the gen5 Nexus 5. Just put in a BIGGER battery! Finally. Thank you. :cool:

And except for that one thing (OIS), the Moto Maxx matches or BEATS the Nexus 6 in every other category.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
I am confused on your first comment stating that the Moto Maxx is your only choice. Your on AT&T Nexus 6 is available for that network. So you chose the Maxx over the nexus 6 because of size? Thats more of a preference. At first when I read that comment i thought you are not able to get the device. From reading the post you have plenty of choices you chose the Maxx over the nexus.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
It's my only choice for the size I want and to have Nexus 6 specs.

I've owned two Nexus smartphones (four if you also count that I bought my wife her Nexus phones, rooted them and installed custom ROMs).

I was looking forward to the NEXUS 6, until Google chose only the 5.96" variant.

I made it clear the NEXUS 6 is a failure in my eyes, so the Moto Maxx is the only choice. It's obviously based on the Nexus 6 5.2" 1440p Snapdragon 805, 3GB RAM variant Google was testing as late as mid August last year.

Google chose the too large size to be the Nexus 6, so I imported the 5.2" variant Motorola repurposed to be the Moto Maxx. It's MY Nexus 6.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
I am not trying to argue. Just got confused from your post. Thanks for your explaination. The maxx/Turbo are great phones.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] creamycaesar1:
So just to be certain, we are no longer able to purchase this phone with US credit card and sent to Mexico address?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Pika71:
sale in motorola page in mexico:good:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] creamycaesar1:
Can you clarify this?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
[MENTION=2920544]Jaocagomez[/MENTION] says Motorola is now cancelling non-Mexico credit card orders.

Whereas before if you checkmarked billing address was same as shipping address, Motorola Mexico either didn't verify or didn't care. :rolleyes: (I used my U.S. credit card, but checkmarked my billing address was same as shipping address -- which was actually [MENTION=2920544]Jaocagomez[/MENTION] work address. He received it for me, then shipped it to my U.S. address. I received it in 15 days from time I ordered on Motorola Mexico website. From China to Mexico, via FedEx, then Mexico to USA via UPS.)

That trick worked for over two months! ;) Now Motorola is suddenly verifying credit card addresses for some reason. Maybe Verizon complained their U.S. exclusivity for this phone was being infringed upon? :confused: (since the Moto Maxx is BETTER than the bootloader locked down Droid Turbo -- for those of us who do not want Verizon or who actually want to own our phones.)

Anyway good news! For about same total price of Moto Maxx shipped from China to Mexico, then turnaround shipped to USA address, you can now buy Puerto Rico Moto Maxx on eBay and Swappa and have it delivered via U.S. Priority Mail. Specs are exactly the same, and the eBay/Swappa price of the Puerto Rico Moto Maxx has dropped by about $100. So, opportunity to own this awesome phone is still open.

My first Moto Maxx in December 2014 was $779 off eBay from Puerto Rico, now Swappa has those for at least $100 less than that. I've heard $630 - $680?

My 2nd Moto Maxx (end of December 2014) was from Mexico, and total price was less than $650. (But Motorola Mexico was having a Christmas sale during that time. Even with the turnaround shipping fee --which I gladly paid -- it was less than $650. ) But now you can get Moto Maxx for about THAT price from Puerto Rico sellers.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Pika71:
www.motorola.com.mx only version XT 1225 Moto Maxx

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sorry, I ignored this
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Jaocagomez:
as chazzmatt stated, thats no longer working.

if you are from usa i recommend swappa for a used moto maxx or ebay for a new one.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] creamycaesar1:
Anyone know the Ebay seller on this forum from puerto Rico? Rather give business to someone on here.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] prking07:
I know him. What you want to know?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] creamycaesar1:
Current price and seller name would be great.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] creamycaesar1:
Current price and seller name if possible.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] wingsfortheirsmiles:
Sorry I snipped out the rest of your post but I cannot agree enough with this point. I loved the Moto X '13, 720p was fine with that screen size, it brought solid additions to stock android and had the best form factor I've ever experienced but lacked power and battery life.

Then I got excited about the next version and even got over the increase in screen size to see that Moto had skimped again on the battery and like you said the older G2 was comparable on specs. I know that they're aiming at a different segment with Moto Maker and AOSP+ vs LG's kitchen sink approach but I was still disappointed.

Then I heard rumours about Moto producing the next Nexus only to have my hopes dashed by the screen size! I therefore also thought that what emerged as the Turbo/Maxx should've been the next Nexus and had to get it even with the import charges, dubious warranty cover and lack of a major UK 4G band. I really hope but doubt that Moto will pay more attention to Europe, I mean we still don't have Lollipop or a 64GB option for the Moto X '14, or something like the $140 off sale on the US site :(
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] creamycaesar1:
Current price and sellers name would be good.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ecsjr:
Has anyone attempted inserting an already activated Verizon nano-sim just to see if it includes the U.S. CDMA antenna, therefor would immediately activate similar to the Nexus 6?