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[Xposed General] flemmingk:
Hi

My phone is a Galaxy S4 GT-I9505. Stock ROM. Rooted. Xposed installer v 2.6.1

I had the framework installed and working OK. Due to problems with a different app I restored my latest Nandroid backup.

Now I get the message shown in the attachment. I can open the xposed-disabler-recovery.zip file with no problems.

I installed it, but I realized that that was a bad idea, so I restored my Nandroid backup once more. I still have the same problem.

I get the message regardless of the installation mode I choose.

Please advise.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] riz157:
This thread probably infuriate some (Sam fans) and be informative for others. Help people perhaps decide whether to buy or not.

I'm sick of touchwiz it lags and ugly. Probably worse the. Lg's ui. A phone which spec wise packs so much can't handle it's own ui.:silly:

How many people feel that's true?

Samsung are losing market share due to them not listening to their customers. Samsung need to switch back on and start reacting to consumer demands. Plastic is not appealing anymore. I hear the argument "need plastic back for removal battery" well people you don't need it to be ugly. More then one way to remove battery.

Get rid of the ugly design with plastic back, take a leaf out Htcs book.

Get rid of the stupid gimmicky software which perhaps a vey small percentage of people use.

I'm going for nexus 6 and not keeping my note 4 because it's slow and hate the ui.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jaca_76:
Not true. I don't have any lags, work smoothly. Camera is amazing i really enjoy. If you don't like touchwiz you can always use other app like Nova. You buy note 4 or you opinion is only bubbles..?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hello00:
why do u think this will help other people decide? just 'cause a ferrari came with a defective engine doesnt mean everyone should stop buying them..if u hate touchwiz so much then why'd u end up purchasing the note 4? samsung are losing costumers as well as apple and htc..costumers come and go..and the note 4 isnt plastic..it has a metal body
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alex989898:
I'm not sure that the Note serie is responsible of Samsung loosing consumers. In fact, a recent poll on Phonearena shows that more than 81% of people think that the Note 4 is the best large-screen on the market right now.

Maybe the GS5 was disappointing and an update hard to justify but IMO, that's not why Samsung looses consumers.

There is more competition now and newee phones simply aren't big upgrade anymore (except iPhone 6/6+ for last-gen iPhone owners).

With a lot of manufacturers that sell high-end phones for 400$, It's harder to sell with a price tag of more than 650$.

As I remember, only low-cost company gain market shares recently.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] riz157:
Seriously dude look at iPhone 6 plus it's a massive hit. It's outselling every other phone in the market and I'm not an apple fan but android.

Back in the day there was only one phablet which was the note but now you have more choice which is why people are not buying the note 4.

Spec wise samsung should be doing much better as far as performance is concerned but in really use the iPhone is better. Take the finger print sensor, on the iPhone it works seamlessly every time as it should On the note 4 well it's hit and miss.

Samsung is like a horse which has been overloaded and it shows.

With nexus 6 being made available shortly samsung will lose more customers.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] riz157:
These are valid arguments, s5 was a big let down which has put off many people.

Yes low cost pomes are taking a chunk of the market but I think most who buy them are probably disappointed.

I've been saying this since S4 was launched that samsung eventually will lose consumers if they carry in with the cheap plastic look and touchwiz, see my earlier posts. Samsung have been vey slow in reacting and are laying out daily, same mistake Htc made. I think the next phone samsung launch will address the plastic and touchwiz issue, unless they are still,asleep.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alex989898:
Year to year, in september, Apple's market shares are down. According to Kantar's analysis, the only market they are gaining market share year to year is EU5 where Apple is already very low (less than 15% market share).

Nexus 6 will certainly not sell very well if Google doesn't invest in marketing. None of the Nexus was a massive success to date. They sell well in a nich market of tech savvy.

Chinese brands, in the other hand, gain market share very fast (Xiaomi growth by 267% year to year if I remember correctly. When the market is only 26% larger).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Magnus3D:
Businesses and marketshare will go up and down in cycles, in a year or two numbers will rise again. This is normal behaviour to have these fluctuations as demand for products vary from time to time. It's a long time since Apple had a steady flow, they also suffer from fluctuations in their marketshare and product sales figures.

I'm not worried about this temporary setback for Samsung, they have a massive amount of money and electronics is not their main source of income.

/ Magnus
[Galaxy Note 4 General] POLO_i780:
You say people are not buying the Note 4 yet Samsungs recent quarterly results reflected that they have sold more phones and the Note 4 is already a major contributor, confirmed by Samsung's VP.

If you are going to make bold claims please stick to facts.

FYI: according to Kantar, Apple continue to lose marketshare globally, including in the USA:

http://www.mobileburn.com/23718/news/apple-loses-us-market-share-despite-record-sales

iPad also losing share to Samsung:

http://mblog.gsmarena.com/idc-samsung-nears-apple-tablet-shipments-market-climbs-11-5-q3-2014/
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Slai:
Dont like the plastic back? Just buy a metal back. PROBLEM SOLVED.

I really hope Samsung doesnt make a metal unibody for the Note 5, like the recent ugly HTC and Apple phones that look like someone shat the 1980s expectations of 2010 "scifi tech" through a douchefactory. I hope they stick to removable back, because then you can CHOOSE to have an easily scratched slippery ugly metal back or a grippy durable nice plastic back.

I dont find ANY gimmicky software on my Note 4. I find gimmicky hardware though, like the heartrate sensor and UV sensor. What exactly do you think is gimmicky software on the Note 4?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iridaki:
You did not share any information, you merely stated your opinion.

I happen to like plastic and I like the feel of the Note 4's battery cover. And I hate the look of most HTC phones. And by that I mean to say, that it all boils down to personal preferences and individual taste.

I doubt that a "vey small percentage of people" uses the camera, or the S-Note. I am sure quite a few people are using multiwindow, the ultra power saving mode, and so on. All these are part of Touchwiz.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out! Kidding! :P

I am sure there are people out there that feel the same way as you. But you need to accept that there are also people who don't. Cheers! :)

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[Galaxy Note 4 General] hohoXD1233:
Do get a bit of lag, nothing major though. The messaging app was especially lagging for me, but that was easily fixed by replacing it with a 3rd party app. I'm finding a lot of the features to be very useful actually, not gimmicky at all, one-handed mode, ultra power saving, download booster, all the S pen features. The back is nothing amazing but doesn't look cheap until you take it off, would be keeping it hidden under a case anyway, so again not much of a problem. The positives far outweigh the negatives for me.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Gandhi70:
I like the note 4 design and feel, especially the fake leather back. More than my old HTC m8.

And regarding touchwiz, only lag I have is the recent apps button.

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[Galaxy Note 4 General] SupaSwag:
I'm not a fan of touchwiz, but my phone has basically been lag free. With the only exception being the recent apps button. However, my G3 had the same recent apps button lag so it's not only a Samsung thing.

Sent from my Note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Er. Aditya:
this is no place for iphones 6 plus and hey did someone forgot the bendgate allready ??

i hope you remember what that uni body piece of aluminium is capable of... enough said
[Galaxy Note 4 General] maksharma231:
I attribute it to the fact that the phone might be waiting for a long press to pop up the menu.

No lag on my unit...Bard's tale~2gb game runs smooth even on power saving mode(so do all the other games/apps I run, just pointed this out due to its size)..So I am a satisfied customer Samsung,,

Yes, I do agree that touchwiz can be a little lightweight and polished..but its way better than what it used to be!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Er. Aditya:
thats very well said...as for the customers demand samsung has metal bands around , so soon enough will be the light touchwiz

i disagree to the saying that samsung dsnt listens to their customers, they do it

i have never seen tim cook talking to each and everyone ,"hey what do you want in your iphone".....
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
Your statements are opinions, based on taste or preference no facts. I do agree with you on the lag issues, I do feel like TouchWiz is a hindrance and that it's not very appealing. However a lot of people love TouchWiz. You saying that Samsung doesn't listen to us doesn't compute though if they didn't listen and try to anticipate our needs they wouldn't have a gazillion device's.

That being said the millions they spend on developing and advertising so many devices coupled with their pricing and the emergence of Chinese phone companies like Xiaomi and Oppo to name a few are a reason why they're not fairing better. You can't be the king forever. Samsung is still doing fine the market has changed.

As far as looks are concerned I find the note 4 gorgeous. My opinion. I agree with you on the useless hardware and software part and firmly believe that Samsung phones should come out with stock Android on their own framework and put all their bloatware in their app store like they did with their extra camera modes. But again, that's my opinion.

I decided to ditch Samsung after the s5 I felt that them offering the same phone for what was arguably the 3rd time was a slap in the face but the note 4 is in a league of its own and that's why I'm giving them another chance.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Itchiee:
I'm not a fan of Touch wiz, but we have the option of switching to a different launcher and I prefer Nova...

This phone is awesome and we should be thankful we have the freedom to change what we don't like.

How about those Apples?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Amb669:
I don't get why Samsung has to bloat the **** out of the ui before it's even in the customers hand.

It would be sooooo easy for them to remove the bloat, keep the hardware like ir blaster ect, But just let the user install said bloat from the Samsung store.

This way your phone isn't slow as hell & lags like **** right out of the box and everyone could just add what they need, and not have to have tons of crap they "won't" use.

Being forced to have "useless" bloatware running out of the box with no official way of removing it is like selling me a phone with the gps enabled and being told I can't turn it off because there's no options to do so and I have no choice but to live with the consequences/battery drain ect. (I say useless not because it has no use, But because almost all of it has no use to me and most other users but we're forced to carry the apps regardless)

We waste a terrible amount of energy nowdays and it's in the form of all the digital space we waste.

It costs lot's of money globally in electricity to charge all the cell phones in the world, and if Samsung owns 35% of those cell phones world wide and most of them have said bloat consuming power, that's a lot of power being consumed for absolutly no reason.

Basically we pay money out of our own pockets in the form of electricity to power the pre-installed bloat (that most users won't use). I don't know about you guys but I'm disgusted with this choice on samsungs end.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iridaki:
There is no Samsung app on my phone that I am not using right now, since all the apps that were of no use to me, I was able to disable them from the native Android menu with ease. So I feel that Samsung has a fairly good idea of what people who buy their phones want and expect. Anything else, they made it easy to disable.

Of course, my phone is unlocked and unbranded, I can't speak for phones with carrier bloatware.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] grifter9931:
Don't purchase the phone that has these "limitations"......

So now you are on a energy crusade? Don't you have every smartphone on the market currently?

Also since we are talking about pre installed crap.... Lets go with dual "premium" speakers on a phone.....

The absolute biggest piece of nonsense on a phone.. My opinion....

If the flagship phone doesn't fit "your" needs then why do you purchase everyone that comes out every single time?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gekkehenkie11:
I find this a really weird message. "Easy to disable" ? How do you disable their bloatware without having rooted your phone and using something like Titanic backup to uninstall it ? I remember from the time I was still using Touchwiz, my camera used to crash because of the low available memory, due to bloatware. If I'd clean memory up, it usually wouldn't even go much higher than 800 mb free mem on my s4. Running Cm11 it's almost 1200 mb. Needless to say, no cam crashes on CM11 :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] klect:
I THINK you can do it from the settings. Go to settings > applications > search for the apps you would like to disable > disable

This won't remove the apps but stops them from working. read > consuming energy
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Touchwiz debloated alot by samsung on note 4 and most of the useless apps can be disabled without root BUT ofc you cant expect pure android ram usage from touchwiz. Cuz smart stay multiwindow spen features etc mostly running in background and eating ram you cant avoid it. Problem was framework making phone slow but its totaly gone i think. Atleast im an old nexus user and tw is definetly fast.

if anything crashes from low avaible ram its just bad coding from samsung in total system its not just comes with high ram usage.

Ps: did you check android 5 encrpytion on nexus 6 like i said earlier google cant go with that bad nand. And its proved that low read/write speeds come with android 5 on nexus 6.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
By going in to Application manager and turning them off. When you do, all the hooks, threads, and background processes they'd create are dormant and the app doesn't show up in the App picker any more. It's as if it's not there with the exception of the storage it still uses in its dormant state. I have a ton of apps disabled including all but one carrier app which won't let me turn it off. I'd guess that all those disabled apps use about 250MB of my internal storage.

My disabled apps. Can you tell I'm neither a Google fan or Nexus candidate. ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iridaki:
I never had that problem on my S3 or S4 and I don't on the Note 4.

No camera crashes on CM11, I believe you, but Touchwiz camera produces better photos. SO much better photos. And I haven't come across anyone saying the camera crashes on the Note 4, so TW has gone a long way since you last used it, apparently.

And you don't need Titanium to disable apps, Android has this feature built-in since ICS, albeit not for all apps.

Yes, you can do it from the Settings. It will not remove the apk from /system but it will freeze the app and stop it from working and it will not appear on your app drawer or anywhere else.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gekkehenkie11:
Nah, that doesn't work at all, you will still see process start up automatically in the background and consuming memory. The only real option is rooting your phone and uninstalling the APK via TI. (or even better: dont use touchwiz at all and install a custom ROM)

---------- Post added at 06:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:22 PM ----------

Of course. But to fix it, the only option you have is clean up memory (or use another CAM)

---------- Post added at 06:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:24 PM ----------

Crashing camera app due to low available mem is a very common problem with Touchwiz.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
I used i9300 with 1gb ram long time i never saw camera crash on a tw rom. And if you disable apps they wont run again.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gekkehenkie11:
Not sure why people keep saying this but this is just not true. Install a process manager/task manager and you will see the apps running in the background, regardless whether you disabled them or not.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iridaki:
"Common" is a tricky word... See, it happened on your S4 so you perceive it as a common issue. It didn't happen on my S4 or my Note 4 (I can't remember if it happened on the S3 to be honest, but I think not), so I do not consider it common. It is most likely down to the fact that our usage patterns are vastly different. The Note 4 has 3GB of RAM and it is more than enough for me, but it is perfectly acceptable that other users may find that it is not enough for them. Touchwiz is definitely on the heavy side in terms of demand for resources, however, for some people it is a necessary component. For example, the Touchwiz camera hands down outperforms Google Camera, based on objective comparison of the results. Some people don't care much about the camera, or find AOSP camera good enough. And neither is right or wrong.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
Are you sure? None of my disabled apps show up in either running or cached processes.

I've never had that issue on any of my Samsung devices. I was in Sonoma a week ago and took over 200 pictures and never had any issue with the Note 4's camera app. If it's a problem it must be specific to some conflicting app, process, or combination of both on individual phones. That, or I'm just lucky. ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gekkehenkie11:
I'm using 'advanced task killer free', I disabled some of the bloatware samsung installed and it just kept showing up in the task manager. The only way I could really get rid of it was using TI to just complete uninstall it.

It happened to me. It happened to my girlfriend. And when I went searching in google, I found tons of users having the same problem and generally cleaning up memory before cam use is suggested (and this solved it indeed).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iridaki:
Well, it didn't happen to me and it didn't happen to my boyfriend either. :p

And for every user that reports the problem, there's always someone reporting that they haven't faced it. The discussion is futile. Clearly TW isn't for you or your girlfriend and that's perfectly fine. But you can't generalise an issue and not accept that some people just haven't experienced it.

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[Galaxy Note 4 General] hello00:
you have many apps running on your background..how is that batt life?

mine stays below 1.5gb
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
That explains it. None of the apps I have disabled (besides PenUp) are from Samsung. For non-Samsung apps disabling them seems to make them truly dormant.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gekkehenkie11:
I'm perfectly fine that you and your boyfriend are happy with Touchwiz. My girlfriend is too btw, even regardless of the cam issue's, she's not exactly a tech savy user so another ROM isn't her thing ;) But you made it look like it was a piece of cake to just have the samsung bloatware stop consuming memory and cpu. That's just not true. The only real solution is rooting the device and uninstalling it, that was my whole point.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] POLO_i780:
Apps are disabled through Application Manager, not a task killer, task killers do more bad than good.

Never had this happen, I've had S2, Galaxy Tab10.1,S3, S4 and now Note 4, I have NEVER had that happen. The S4 did have a major bug in the beginning just after launch where launching the Camera would cause a Reboot, but that was quickly solved within a month.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gekkehenkie11:
Of course. I never claimed otherwise.

Ah ok, so if it works for you then everything must be fine ? I wish it was true man, unfortunately you're wrong: https://www.google.com/webhp?source...AW560&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=s4 camera crash

And oh yeah, this happened on the latest touchwiz, 4.4.2.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
One man's trash is another man's treasure. If it weren't for Samsung's "bloatware" which is the reason I buy their devices I wouldn't have a Note and would have a much smaller "normal size" phone. For those that feel the way you do (which is fine BTW) and can put up with some deficiencies the Nexus 6 would be a better choice. We all don't use our devices the same way. ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gekkehenkie11:
Of course. One person is happy with touchwiz, the other isn't, to each their own. and yeah, Nexus 6 would have been a nice alternative, but the lesser quality screen and higher battery usage made me choose the Note 4 over it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iridaki:
Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to say it's a piece of cake, but, again, it worked for me. I guess because the specific apps that I personally didn't need, stayed dormant and do not appear in any task manager. Of course, some other apps may not behave that way, I just haven't disabled any of them thus far. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] itolson:
Best phone ever for me.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] grifter9931:
Would it be possible that disabling a bunch of processes is affecting the Camera app? I haven't run into this issue with an unrooted phone...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sprintuser1977:
The Note 4 is the greatest.

Don't doubt me,

I am 100% right 60% of the time
[Galaxy Note 4 General] grifter9931:
Good enough for gubbermint work!!!!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] boodies:
No phone is perfect but this is the best phone I ever owned. That's for sure. if you disagree you have no right to be called a phone enthusiast lol. Oh and I love trader Joe's vindaloos!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cyanogen_patrick:
I'm planning to make a CM11 or CM12 for the Note 4 WITH the really good features of the Note 4. I agree, it's laggy sometimes, but CM11/CM12 AND the GOOD features of the Note 4 ported on would be AWESOME! I'll keep you updated. -Patrick

P.S. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 and a Samsung Galaxy S3/S 3/SIII/S III I was experimenting with. :D (Both are T-Mobile. :P)
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[Galaxy Note 4 General] riz157:
This is good sounds but is or achievable.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Willem1975:
Use a launcher

He man. Why don't you just use a custom launcher like NOVA or action launcher 3. All the lagg is gone and you still get to keep all the good stuff that samsung provides.

Besides that. there is many bloatwear apps you can freeze or even remove with titanium backup or SD Maid.

I agree with the touchwizz launcher though. I always replace it as soon as I get a samsung phone. When making phones of this quality the TW should have been way better bby now. On the software end Samsung really needs to step their game. Especially since developpers here have made a lagg free version within a few weeks. Can't be impossible for samsung then.

Launchers:

Nova: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher

Action: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.actionlauncher.playstore

List of freezable and/or removable bloatwear:

http://www.reddit.com/r/galaxynote4/comments/2pgiib/the_ultimate_list_of_removablefreezable_bloatware/

No problem with my phone.

Something else you might want to try is just install CM12 with the Spen Addon and Notebuddy or Spen control.

This makes the phone competely customizable and gets rid of TW alltogether.