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[Nexus 6  General] k.s.deviate:
Who said anything about tethering?
[Nexus 6  General] milan03:
Let's say you're 50% right on how wireless works, but it's close enough.

The point is that we're not the most users. We're enthusiasts. So while I appreciate your views on average American consumer, which are mostly right, that certainly doesn't apply to me, and a lot other enthusiasts here on XDA Forums.
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
Its in the first paragraph in your reply
[Nexus 6  General] k.s.deviate:
Nothing in that paragraph points to tethering in any way. Its referring to people only using their phone, not having a PC or a laptop. Please read it again.

Regardless, my point has been made. Having a closed mind about the natural evolution of mobile devices is pointless. Its going to happen whether we think its needed or not.
[Nexus 6  General] milan03:
Exactly, which is why LTE technology was created to begin with.

There is a good reason why we are seeing Carrier Aggregation fired up on operators like T-Mobile and AT&T, and why these Carrier Aggregation enabled smartphones exist.
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
True, and don't get me wrong, I'm the last to say "don't do it". I just don't think the tech is 'needed' or terribly useful yet, so it not being included does not effect me or IMO a vast majority of users.

The reason I pay for the mid tier (60ish Mbps) home internet isn't because I want 60Mbps on all my devices, I connect about 20 devices to my WiFi (TVs, streaming boxes, laptops, media server, phones, tablets, etc) so I would like each one to be 'fast enough'.

That being said, I see the use for like usages with LTE (home internet replacement) and if you are wanting to D/L extremely large files, but even the 1GB ROM files are small enough that its not a long wait either way.

But then again I went with Cricket wireless to save money because I can't tell the difference between 8Mbps and 20Mbps I was getting on Straight Talk, or even the 25Mbos I was getting on T-Mobile. I just don't do much that requires the speed, and cost and quantity were more important then speed.

Tl:dr

So I agree enthusiasts and other special cases could use the tech now, if the carrier side is implemented in their area. But I also think enthusiasts would be changing phones before to long (I know a lot of us are phone whores lol) so I don't think the fact it's not included will effect many for long :)

I think he is talking about using a wireless card, a WiFi hotspot, or having it built into a router/laptop.

The last one I've seen overseas, it looked awesome. Having a router with a sin card and cellular connection would be a great way to tell Comcast to go take their over priced 'stuff' and shove it done where private. But then I'd be paying for over priced wireless connection lol.
[Nexus 6  General] Skripka:
Yup..."LTE", as it is colloquially called, was created as a marketing ploy term because the actual "4G" radio standard as penned into industry agreements (gigabit wireless speeds in low mobility circumstances like walking, and 100megabit in high mobility like driving) is still

far beyond

reach and no one is seriously implementing it in scale. Carriers begged for a marketing-ese term to bait consumers into getting excited about paying $100/month again and thus "4G Long Term Evolution (LTE)" was born....a marketing ploy based on an ultra-watered down interpretation of a standard, that lowered the bar by a factor of 10 or 100 so as to be attainable immediately. Carriers got to use the "4G" branding immediately and make their CEOs and their golden parachutes happy by boosting sales, on the promise that like good boy-scouts they'd make some pathetic attempt to eventually meet the real 4G standard....something that unsurprisingly no one has really done on any scale.

And thus we're seeing people talking about "5G" already...when we aren't even close to seeing actual 4G standard speeds yet.
[Nexus 6  General] milan03:
Remember in Cable or Fiber deployments you're buying wired connectivity, and for your 60Mbps package the chances are you'll be getting that speed, or very close to it, most of the time.

In wireless it's not even close. It's shared, there is interference, there are backhaul issues, before the signal even gets to your device. So if you're subscribed to Cricket, with rate limit set at 8Mbps, in congested areas you may end up seeing nothing even close to 8Mbps, not to mention that Cricket prioritization is set to "lowest" within the AT&T's network.

So billions of dollars have been invested in LTE research and development, both networks and user devices are getting more efficient with every new release and category, and trust me, the last thing you want to do is generalize.

The fact that greedy wireless operators decided to over monetize wireless internet access, and maximize profit extraction out of hard working americans is something completely different. But you're mixing the Technological aspect of LTE which is always advancing, with business practices of greedy corporations.

Two completely different things. And many of us realized the importance of Unlimited Data on LTE networks, and have that grandfathered and on lockdown years ago. LTE has been created as an enabler, not a disabler of that end user experience.
[Nexus 6  General] Skripka:
Usually you're not. ISPs massively oversell their bandwidth, in the USA. My folks were paying $50/month for 6 megabit down 0.5 up. IRL and at off hours (e.g. best case scenario) they were only getting 1.5megabit down and 0.25 up. And that was inside the state capitol city limit.
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
So how can one tell the difference between 8mbps and 100mbps on a phone?
[Nexus 6  General] k.s.deviate:
You can tell the difference by how long it takes to download a file.

Eg: if a 10mb file takes 5sec to download your getting 2mb/s. Or better yet, google maps is 55.20mb, it took me approximately 10sec to download. So, what 5.5mb/s?
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
Good point.

I'll divert to this....

How many people are like you or me that notice this vs people like my wife she does not notice this at all and is perfectly happy with the 10mbps she gets at one place vs 60mbps she gets at another place.

99% won't matter if they get 10 or 100 it'll all be the same.

But you got a great point. Plus doesnt s Korea already hit 100?
[Nexus 6  General] k.s.deviate:
My wife and I had a baby not that long ago, recently she went out with some friends after being cooped up in the house for a while and wasn't on our WiFi. When she got home all I heard was how slow her YouTube and facecrack was. Lol maybe I've rubbed off on her.

Until recently my n6 with rogers was downloading faster than our home internet. I just upgraded it to 100mb/s and got a 5g router for $80/month.

I'm not sure what s Korea has.. But im pretty sure they're years ahead n america so it wouldn't surprise me.
[Nexus 6  General] milan03:
I've been hitting 100+Mbps in the US for more than a year. Korea is also millions of square miles smaller and easier to cover than the U.S.

Again, the main driver for LTE is the efficiency. On the network side, they want you to access the net, download whatever you want, and get off the RRC Connected state as fast as possible, so they can free up and reuse those resources on other subscribers within the same serving cell.

On the device side, with faster access race-to-sleep is faster, and so both battery life and overall user experience improves.
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
I know what to expect from Cricket, and unfortunately from Comcast too. In both cases the cap is that, a cap. If congestion occurs you get less. Coax (cable) is shared, there is interference (less then wireless, and impedance matching helps, but it's still occurs), and many times issues can occur up line where the coax meets the fiber. Sorry, I'm a electronic tech on aircraft, I know how easily coax can have interference induced if everything isn't perfect, and cable companies have much longer cables and more complex networks then an aircraft would.

But like you said, faster connection can save battery if implemented correctly (energy cost of link is not large enough to off set the savings of sleep, the UE properly falls to lower energy link state, etc). Think when LTE first came out, people would disable LTE links to save battery, even when you could obtain a signal, because the equipment was not enabled well.
[Nexus 6  General] Skripka:
Has much more to do with state-owned tower infrastructure than geographical size. We in the USA were morons by having Ma Bell and her corporate children not only build out their own cell towers and infrastructure but then own them. Consequently we suffer the joy of having lots of carriers with crappy coverage because each owns their own exclusive towers and they only build them where they see lots of $$$ signs. To be a Congressman or woman in the USA you need a stamp on your forehead that reads "BRIBE ME!"

Every other country on Earth did the smart thing...where the state owns the infrastructure and the carriers rent the antenna space, and consequently have massively better signal coverage.
[Nexus 6  General] JulesJam:
I'll take capitalism over socialism any day. It ain't perfect but it sure does beat all of the other options.
[Nexus 6  General] Skripka:
Tell that to New Jersey.
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
Not exactly socialism though. It would be a public carrier (similar to common carrier but owned by the public). The state would not be selling anything, nor producing anything. The state would own the hardware, which it paid private companies to install, but would 'rent' to any company who could pay the fees (which would be standardized so as to be fair). If all phones ran on all frequencies and all towers had all frequencies and used the same technology (CDMA or GSM) think of the efficiencies and bandwidth. And as long as each carrier got charged the same for equal traffic, it would work as a capitalist system, where in each company charges what it wants/needs and the consumers choose which to use based on price and extras ( think international roaming or other value added services).

We could even have common carrier, give all frequencies (or lease them) to one company, they are not allowed to be a provider, but they own the equipment and provide the service provider the connection to customers. They charge the service provider for usage, but they have no financial relationship with the end consumer. That system may go over better here in the US, though it ends up being essentially the same as public carrier.

Sorry, I'll get off my soapbox now :) I hate seeing how inefficient we use the extremely limited spectrum we have.
[Nexus 6  General] vtmike:
There are quite a few countries that lean more towards socialism than capitalism that the average citizen is far better off than the average US citizen in pretty much every way.

Sort of back on topic, I'd much rather have 6 gigs of data at 10mbs for the same price as my current 3 gigs at 20mbs.
[Nexus 6  General] JulesJam:
Socialism includes major industries and ESPECIALLY utilities owned by the state. So yeah, it is socialism.
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
If nothing else you feel like you got more, since it took four times (twice the data at half the speed) as long to use the alloted data lol.
[Nexus 6  General] JulesJam:
Blah, blah, blah. All of that would mean a bunch of GOVERNMENT employees justifying their bloated salaries/benefits/overly generous pensions to administer it. It would be a huge, bloated, government union unionized MESS!!

NO THANK YOU!!!! God bless capitalism.

The reason the US is in such a good economic shape compared to Europe is that we reject these BS socialist beliefs.

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Their economies are crumbling and all their average citizen does is complain about the taxes they pay in those countries.

You don't like it here - MOVE to those socialist countries. GET OUT. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out, lol!

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Exactly, what a mess when you reject capitalism in favor of government unions.
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
Ok, back on topic.....let's drop the politics before a mod gets mad.
[Nexus 6  General] milan03:
Actually, over the past few years there's been a trend for Tier 1 operators to sell their towers to tower companies like Crown Castle. This year Verizon made such a multi billion dollar deal which is how they partially financed their Vodafone 49% stake buyback, and then immediately signed a lease for those same towers in a 40yr deal. This way they don't lose on their cell density, service doesn't suffer. It seems to be a much more efficient way, as the cost of leasing is much lower than the cost of maintenance, plus it generated cash.

AT&T did the same last year, T-Mobile the year before. Tier 1 wireless operators have been scaling down on tower ownership.
[Nexus 6  General] vtmike:
The Swiss, German, and French economies are doing so bad right now.

GM and Chrysler failed because they make crap cars period. At least ford is on the right track, Focus ST, Fiesta ST, Focus RS, etc... Mercedes, BMW, Porsche, VW, and Audi are all doing really well and I'd wager their workers are paid more and get better benefits than their US "equivalents."
[Nexus 6  General] Skripka:
Granted I haven't seen hard numbers from before but from what I've read ATT's deal alone amounted to $2,000 a month per cell tower site to lease back the towers they've already built and owned and paid off. $25,000 per year per cell tower site. Or a year of college tuition.

That sounds, simply put, astronomically high.

...so much so that I suspect that the sale and lease back is more about good old-fashioned corporate-tax-dodging rather than cost avoidance. It makes me genuinely wonder who "Crown Castle" actually is and who really owns them after you get passed all the Delaware front corporations....a quick search here, and the internet is surprisingly silent on that topic.
[Nexus 6  General] JulesJam:
Move then. I don't see there being these huge waiting lists for Americans wanting to immigrate to those countries but check out how long the waiting lists are for Europeans to immigrate here.
[Nexus 6  General] milan03:
Well, first you'll have to realize that just paying the rent to the actual landlord, plus electricity and tower maintenance fee each month will come to about $25,000. This way they're paying 10x less, and they received billions in cash.

The bottom line, Tier 1 operators do not own all of their cell sites.
[Nexus 6  General] Skripka:
That is a cool theory and all..except in ATT's case that is not what appears is happening at all. Indeed even the way Bloomberg writes about it hints that even financial analysts who should understand this stuff don't have a frigging clue what is going on:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-to-4-85-billion-tower-deal-with-crown-castle

In reading that article there are four different sections...each of which contains at least 2 contradictory points of view.

-Compare: "The agreement, which involves leasing or selling 9,700 wireless towers to Crown Castle, "

-And "Crown Castle will buy 600 AT&T towers and get the exclusive right to lease and operate about 9,100 others for an average of 28 years, the companies said yesterday. "

-And then : "AT&T has about 10,000 towers, which generate roughly $326 million in annual revenue as other companies pay to lease space on the sites, according to JPMorgan research analyst Phil Cusick."

-And then: "AT&T will lease capacity on the towers from Crown Castle for a minimum of 10 years for $1,900 a month per site, with a 2 percent annual rent increase. AT&T has the option to renew for a total of 50 years. "

Talk about mixed messages...in the same article you either have ATT selling some towers lease the others.....or Crowne buying some and operating the other 9000 towers....Or ATT still owning and profiting from the towers by leasing capacity and space on them

to

Crowne....or Crowne Castle owning all the towers and renting them back to ATT. And these are market analyst writers who don't seem to have a clue how this corporate hocus-pocus deal works. If the millions in revenue is true, then ATT is losing out on long-term cash flow by selling out for some quick cash so your theory about astronomical unprofitable infrastructure ownership is false right there. Given that not even white-collar analysts understand it, I suspect even moreso that this is a tax dodge rather than about direct expenses.
[Nexus 6  General] milan03:
Here, Verizon's transaction: http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/verizon-offloads-towers-american-tower-5b/2015-02-05
[Nexus 6  General] Skripka:
It seems analysts couldn't make any more sense of that deal than ATTs.

Compare the header: "Verizon offloads towers to American Tower for $5B" to:

-The first sentence of the first paragraph: "Verizon Wireless (NYSE: VZ) agreed to lease the rights to 11,324 of its communications towers and sell 165 additional towers to American Tower"

-First sentence of the 2nd paragraph: "....American Tower to have exclusive right to lease and operate Verizon's towers for 28 years"

-The 2nd sentence of the 2nd paragraph: "In addition, American Tower will have the right to acquire the towers at the end of the lease term."

-The 3rd paragraph: "Verizon, meanwhile, will sublease the tower space for a minimum of 10 years at a monthly rate of $1,900 per site and fixed annual rent escalators of 2 percent. Verizon will also have access to additional space on the towers for future use."

-1st sentence 4th paragraph: "American Tower said that by acquiring access to Verizon's towers...."

Talk about cognitive dissonance. So either Verizon is absolving itself of owning/operating with cell towers (per the header)...OR it is granting right to lease to American Tower (exclusively) and selling a handful of towers to AT....OR AT is leasing the towers and operating them...OR AT can't actually own the towers for 30 years....Or Verizon is subleasing the towers it apparently owns back to itself while sharing them with AT....Or AT is "acquiring access" to the towers. And searching through the sources on that article, the sources don't appear to understand this deal any better. It shouldn't be that hard a question: "Who owns the damn towers?" It seems no one is able to answer that anymore. Not even journalists who write about this stuff all the time.
[Nexus 6  General] milan03:
It may unclear to some, but if you've read lots of these articles, you've built a muscle for these hard to understand articles.

This one is a bit different I'll admit that.

- Verizon leases the rights to AT for 28 years on 11,324 towers owned by Verizon for $5B.

- During this time AT has the right to operate the tower, meaning taking care of the maintenance and all of the bills.

- Verizon reserves the right to add more equipment to their racks on the tower (for new tech)

- AT has the right to sublease the tower space to other operators for co-location in order to generate the profit

- AT has the right to fully acquire the towers after 28yr lease.
[Nexus 6  General] Skripka:
Not "hard to understand" so much as terribly written with inherent self-contradictions from one sentence to another. If your reading of this is correct (which it seems) then the article titles of every single article by every single journalist who has written about this is 100% wrong....not even nuanced incorrectly, flat out wrong.
[Nexus 6  General] milan03:
Anyhow... this is way off topic. My point was that operators don't own all of their cell towers.
[Nexus 6  General] SwissAndroidX:
From where did you get all this infos?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CNerone:
Hi all,

I use my old CM7 Defy (MB525) for car location service.

I connected defy to usb charger, so its battery goes up while driving. Sometimes my car stay in garage for several days and phone drains all battery power... When I'll come back and I use my car again... my phone if off, battery charge up to 100% but phone stay off. So, if I forget to turn it back off... my car locator doesn't run; if my car is stolen.. I will not find it!

I want my phone turn on as soon as usb cable supplies power.

I know an app exists, btw it runs in samsung phone only, I suppose.

Any tricks?

Thanks in advance, ciao.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mohica10:
Any idea , you think the sprint note 3 domestic sim unlock can use it like reference ? I am not a sprint client
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CapitanFantasma:
+1 :confused:
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhill110:
Maybe if we beg...
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhill110:
I'd be willing to kick in $10 toward a bounty for a dev to crack the issue.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mohica10:
yes i can put $50 , if someone can do it
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CapitanFantasma:
10$ +
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkManX4lf:
Why? If you are trying to use the Sprint Note 4 on t-mobile or att, why not just buy a T-Mobile or att note 4?

Even if you do get domestic sim unlock for the Sprint Note 4 and you try to use it on the t-mobile or att network, 4g lte will not work.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shabbypenguin:
Many people here are actually flash phone shops etc, kind of places that make decent money off sim unlocking sprint devices.

http://orlando.craigslist.org/mod/4744381393.html

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNLOCK-your...364?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35df366f94

Why should anyone release a sim unlock method for free or even with a "bounty" when these guys are going to be selling it for 40-60 bucks a phone. I've had my work out there being sold, but it was 10-20 bucks. this is on enough of a level that its the difference between a full time job's income vs giving it to a handful of people that could use it and care and a crapload of jerks who take and never contribute.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkManX4lf:
That definitely sucks.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mohica10:
Because Sprint phones are cheaper than tmobile and att
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shabbypenguin:
long term yea, but assuming you bought a note 4 at full retail (which lets face it the used market isnt exactly booming just yet) means you paid 720 bucks to get a sprint one. VS tmobiles 750 which would allow you to get LTE and work for your carrier far sooner than sprints.

seems like a solid 30 dollar investment IMO...
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkManX4lf:
I'm guessing you are trying to use the Sprint Note 4 outside if the US. Ok cool. But wouldn't you not be able to use your carriers hspa+ network or lte?
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mohica10:
Yes, we have 2 carrier in my country, one use band 850 and the other 1900 wcdma i can use phone fine
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Uniquebarbee:
The Galaxy Tools 4 root user app has just updated to include uicc unlocking for newer Samsung devices (Note 4)
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CK.84:
where can I get that app?
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brito300:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php...v3.1.2: HOTSPOT, hidden menus, + EVERYTHING!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nicko188:
Cant Root my Xperia U because PC can't detect USB storage

I done all the steps in forums i cant find a way always error
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] supabee24:
Try to install drivers again
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Urttee:
Up

I have some probelm too:crying: