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[Galaxy Note 4 General] inaya45:
Nexus 6 is amazing if you don't mind the price it will have. It can charge in 15 minutes for about 6-8 hours of use. And vanilla Android L is going to be amazing as well. The TouchWiz on Samsung phones really kill the experience unless you do the extra work to root and flash a custom ROM for a stock Android experience like the Nexus
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Slai:
For me the Nexus 6 is merely a large phone. What it lacks in usability and design it doesnt make up for with merely being stock android. At all. Ill use a different launcher regardless, Ill wanam xpose the sh*t out of the note 4 eventually, and I dont see a reason to get stockbased ROMs over TW at the moment. So for me the choice was very easy.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tonio78370:
I guess that the choice is harder depending on how you use your phone.

I came to Note phones, I, II and now III, due to their Size not so much for the stylus or the multi-windows. I don't root or change anything and so the pure Android with the big screen of the Nexus 6 becomes a serious option.

It's a pain that Google has decided that the price advantage is over with Nexus phones; it would have made things so much easier.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] msavic6:
The issue is not the ease of use, it is the blatant disregard by Samsung in the optimization of its software. They simply throw "horsepower" at the issue which is fine for a period of time but eventually the issue begins to show its face again.

While I enjoy the additional features provided by TouchWiz, I dislike the poor optimization of software, there really should be no lag or stutter on devices with processors like the ones found in the S5 and Note 4.

The Nexus 6 from a performance standpoint will be noticeably better than the Note 4 mainly because of the software.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
The Nexus 6 only exists as a JPEG on Google's website. According to the media the Note 4 is in 4M people's hands. So between reviews and owner's commentary we know how the display, camera, build quality, and performance are on the Note 4. No one knows any of that about the Nexus 6. It would be probably be wise to see how the Nexus actually performs rather than going on paper specs alone to make a proper comparison.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] msavic6:
We can make assumptions based on the data provided for the Note 4.

The resolution, processor and ram are the same, logically we can assume that performance will be similar with a slight edge to the Nexus 6 based on historical comparisons of stock android vs. TouchWiz.

We can also assume that battery life will be comparable between the two since the screen sizes are roughly the same with battery capacity and processors being identical. We know that Android L has a positive impact on battery life so there is a great possibility of the Nexus 6 performing better in battery endurance tests than the Note 4 atleast until the Note 4 is also updated to Android L

While these assumptions are no substitute for the concrete testing that can be found in formal reviews, it is essentially our best bet at guaging the Nexus 6 before any reviews are released.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] boodies:
Sup msavic. Thing is, even my i5 desktop lags sometime... And we're talking about a cell phone. no doubt it's going to "lag here and there." Really not a big deal. Even the nexus has "lag" issues. Hell you should see my ipad3 lol. Either way, the Note just has so many more features its not even a close match. If you can't see that, I recommend the Nexus for you msavic. And I personally think the Nexus looks terrible lol.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] msavic6:
Thanks for the recommendation!

Of course there will be lag here and there, nothing is perfect but TouchWiz is filled with more than occasional lag. I have used TouchWiz for over two years now and while it has improved slightly, the experience is still lacking compared to other manufacturers.

We don't have to look at barebones stock android or even iOS to find smoother and quicker user interfaces.

HTC is able to create an extremely fluid and quick user interface that very rarely lags or experiences a slow down, LG also fills their devices to the brim with features yet maintains relatively good performance, G3 not included.

It's extremely evident that Samsung doesn't allocate enough time to software optimization, they simply sweep the problem under the rug by throwing in the fastest available processor in an effort to keep the UI quick.

I'm not sure why your i5 desktop is lagging but it's most likely due to poor optimization, my Surface Pro 3 with an i3 flies through every task I throw at it and never stutters or lags while doing so unless I attempt to do hardcore video editing at which thermal constraints and processor limits cause slow downs. Microsoft did a fabulous job of optimizing the device and it shows in the user experience. It is noticeably faster than the high end desktop I built a few years ago even though it's specs on paper are lower.

Your iPad 3 on the other hand is well known for being underpowered, the processor/GPU combo is not capable of running the high resolution screen hence why Apple released the iPad 4 with beefed up internals so quickly afterwards. Software optimization is far from the issue with the iPad 3.

Regarding the Note 4's extra features, there is quite a few which I find useful from a productivity standpoint but I find it hard to be that productive on a 5.7 inch smartphone screen when I have access to a 12 inch tablet with a full size stylus. The writing experience isn't as comfortable on such a small screen and multi-window is in my opinion better suited for larger screens.

With all that said, the Note 4 is still a good device but it is far from the productivity king everyone makes it out to be. If it is your sole device, it can get the job done but frankly there are much better devices for productivity out there.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
The LG G2 and Nexus 5 share paper specs but perform very differently and they're from the same manufacturer.

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Google-Nexus-5-vs-LG-G2_id3483
[Galaxy Note 4 General] boodies:
It's been about 2 weeks. I rarely have this issue with this on my Note 4 as far as lags go. There are hangups at times, about two or three in 2 weeks? Give me a break. All computers do this. I don't see an issue with it. To me, what matters are the little big and little stuff in touchwiz that makes my social and work life much more productive. This is not possible with other devices as they do not have these features and/or the hardware.

It also seems you don't use the s-pen at all. "there are much better devices for productivity." lol.. get out of here. I'm telling you as a working professional, there's not. Even If you don't' use the s-pen and the multiwindow features. The Note 4 has a better display, a better camera, a better battery life, better looks, sd card, and all the geeky features that a geek like myself wants. But I do use the s-pen, I do use multiwindow, all on a daily basis. The Note 4 is the Productivity King in my books. No other phones come close. And yes, the nexus is too damn big... and ugly. ^_^
[Galaxy Note 4 General] msavic6:
Why would I do work on a 5.7 inch display with a flimsy plastic S-Pen when I can use my Surface Pro 3 which has a 12 inch screen and a full size aluminum body pen? Like I said, if the Note 4 is your only device, I'm sure you can make it work but there are other more serious productivity devices out there which are better suited to the job.

In my opinion, the Note 4's productivity features max out at jotting quick notes and reminders, any serious work is better suited to the Note 10.1 or other devices.

When did you do the extensive testing that allowed you to arrive at those conclusions? Oh right, you didn't since nobody else has either, so essentially you are spewing non-sense since you have no means of backing up the provided information besides your opinion.

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Exactly, software plays a major role in performance, the G2 is very bloated compared to the Nexus 5 and it showed in performance. The same outcome should be seen between the Note 4 and Nexus 6.

If Samsung decided to spend some extra time debloating and further optimizing TouchWiz, their devices would truly be top of the line in all aspects of hardware and software. They have the hardware down now, they just need the software to follow.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] MaelstromXC:
Geeky feature?

You mean latest Android update? Root and custom recovery? Flashing roms?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] boodies:
lol, no. That's what most androids get including the Note 4, and trust me, well get a lot ^_^ . I'm talking about the heart rate sensor, uv sensor, fingerprint (which is a blast to use with lastpass), IR remote, thermometer, pedometer, barometer etc.

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Lol I don't know man. I mean if you want to compare the note to a full blown corei5 computer, the note is doing something right. ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] eAsyy:
Who dafuq needs that?

N5
[Galaxy Note 4 General] msavic6:
- The heart rate sensor is hopelessly inaccurate on the S5, you can run it three times in a row and get massively different results.

- The fingerprint sensor is essentially useless for unlocking the device, simply not ergonomic enough for one handed use even with all the various tricks people have come up with.

- UV sensor is a cool party trick but in reality I have no use for it, any weather app will tell you the UV index.

- IR Remote is essentially the only useful feature out of the bunch you posted, while I don't regularly use it at home due to no tactile feedback from the screen. I can essentially use all the functions of my current remote without looking just based on the feel and shape of the buttons. Unfortunately a glass touchscreen can't replicate that.

- The Note 4 doesn't have a thermometer, Samsung removed it starting with the S5. I used it on the S4 but it was impossible to get an accurate reading as it would pick up on the heat from your hands or from other surfaces and skew the reading. I stopped using it when it told me it was 32° C outside in the snow.

- Basically all smartphones have built in pedometers nowadays, the iPhone, HTC One M8, they all have pedometers. I prefer this feature on a wearable device though.

- Barometer, my Galaxy Nexus had this feature three years ago, most smartphones have this nowadays as it is utilized to attain a GPS lock quicker.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] msavic6:
I understand the benefits of those small added bonus features, I use an S5 as my daily driver so I have essentially 95% of those features on my S5. While there is a bunch I find really useful, there is an even greater amount which I feel are essentially useless gimmicks.

While the S-Pen is nice for quickly jotting down numbers and other tidbits of information, that's about as far as I would go in my use of it. Anything beyond that and I would much rather use my Surface Pro 3.

I also tend to be in situations where I use my devices one handed, the S-Pen is of no benefit to me there, it's much easier for me to open up Memos and type away a number.

Don't get me wrong, the Note is a great device, I just hoped that after 3 years TouchWiz would finally be getting an internal overhaul instead of just a fresh layer of paint. I appreciate the added features, but I don't appreciate Samsung's reluctance to change or enhance it's software especially since this is the #1 complaint in most reviews.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] boodies:
Cool lol, no doubt this is starting to sound like a broken record. But you're right. Anything can be improved on right? Only thing tho and I have to say this lol. Stop comparing it to the surface 3! lol. I know that thing is awesome and i'd love one, ( i only got the asus t100 ^_^) but it's too much for me atm. But cmon now. It's basically a laptop tablet with a full on intel processor with like a 10 inch screen. I know it owns. It better own. But we're talking about phones here. And when it comes to mobile phones right now, yeh.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] msavic6:
I got a great deal on my Surface during the student promotion so it helped out a bit but, yeah the Surface Pro 3 is quite an awesome device. It isn't a great comparison but in terms of stylus functionality they are pretty close except the Surface has a much larger screen. I have become so accustomed to the Surface now that I couldn't imagine working on any other device, its probably why I find using the stylus on a Note 4 so uncomfortable.

Pretty much everything could be improved and a lot of companies tend to connect with their user base in an effort to improve their product. Samsung isn't really listening to user complaints all that much, that's my main gripe, it's been a long enough time that everyone and their cousin is aware of TouchWiz lag, it's about time Samsung changed that.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Slai:
Seriously? Thats the last thing I use my SPen for personally. I generally use it while browsing forums to copy text for quotes, for instance. Also things like this:

Did that in about 2 minutes night before a trip we just took, just imageclipping from email/browser/maps (i think maps... maybe it was a browsermap). Emailed it as PDF to my girlfriend who printed it out.

Then theres the small things like mouseover dropdown menus in the browser, quickpreview of links, etc.

Quite a bit of the small things, but it adds up to one conclusion for me: the S-Pen is great to have, and when I dont have it, I miss having it.

It is nice to write with as well, but rarely do i sit down and write a ton by hand. Only if Im at some kind of seminar and need to take notes when I dont have any paper handy. The camera does come in handy though, for notes, as its far easier to take a shot of a piece of software UI and circle the relevant part than it is to write down the explanation of what Im talking about to my less technologysavvy coworkers. "Here. This button. Press it for yay times.". But thats neither here nor there...
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] _Perpetrator:
Honestly, I love everything about this phone. It seems like an all around great phone with a great look and a very attractive price tag. The only thing that's putting me off is the fact that it's still stuck on 4.3 and with L coming out in the coming months, it's going to be two generations behind. Did the lack of Kitkat ever bother you guys who already have the phone? Do you think you'll regret not having Lollipop?
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] ScoobSTi:
Originally I didn't care about anything but the battery life, which is still amazing (2-3 days of usage for me.) I thought root would definitely be an issue, since it seems approximately 15 people in the whole world have this phone (and they're all on this forum), but we still got root.

As with the OS updates, I knew the chances would be slim but hey, Huawei just gave out 15 Mate2's to ROM developers. Maybe we'll be getting ports soon! They even said it themselves.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] pucherto123:
Yeah me too, the only thing I care about is the battery. As for being stuck on JB I really don't care, I mean it works perfect. I'm sure we will get some Roms going soon enough.

Sent from my MT2L03
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] _Perpetrator:
What's about this giving out of ROM's? When did this happen?
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] ScoobSTi:
15 Mate2's were given out:
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] _Perpetrator:
That's awesome! I would love to have CM or PA, especially with Lollipop, on the HAM2. It would make us independent of Huawei USA's slow software updates. Hopefully this happens.
[Huawei Ascend Mate 2] lightfire:
See my impressions of the Mate 2 here: http://xdaforums.com/ascend-mate2/general/initial-user-impression-ham2-potential-t2919887
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] doctor-cool:
This link still works for me as of 10-26-14 @ 9:43 CST

Log In to your Samsung account first then open this link in another tab.

https://mobile.samsung.com/accessories/modifyitem.do

I think ;),It can only work if you got the Email from Samsung saying your back order is available.

I have already paid for the Developer Edition of the Note 4 but I'm going to call to order the Samsung Protection Plus Mobile Elite that is offered on that page. I want to make sure it covers the Developer Edition of the Note 4

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EDIT: Update

I cleared my cookies and the order disappeared
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] doctor-cool:
It's Back

I don't know what's going on. Take a look.

It may be you have to click the links in a certain order.

TRY http://www.samsung.com/us/

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/account/

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/account/order/

Then click on the shopping cart / Then click View Samsung Mobile Accessories
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] theoretically:
The protection plan for the s4/s5 is $99 but the same plan for the note 3/4 is $129
[Mi 3 General] Recognized Noob:
Bug free CM11 has allegedly been released for our holy device at last. It is hotlinked on miui site also. add "thread-57050-1-1.html" to end of miui forum :p Spread the word guys. Let the development advance, or whatever.
[Mi 3 General] Trinaaa:
Did you tried it? Because none of these cm11 based roms are working without any bugs...
[Mi 3 General] bozarjoska:
no reboots?
[Mi 3 General] srvoleti:
Anybody tried this rom ? feedback please
[Mi 3 General] Sk.D:
Review time :

Yes this one also has reboots

The rom comes with default Cm theme and also android L custom theme.

You must apply it from theme engine for android L!( for noobs) :p

I checked following things!

Camera ( I think Ivan camera has better quality, might be wrong because, Im testing in night :p)

Bluetooth

Wifi

Wifi Hotspot

Apollo & Equalizer

Call facility (No disturbances. Calling is perfect! )

Notitfication light working!!

Cm theme engine working!

REBOOTS ARE PRESENT!!

Till now not a single fc on this rom.

SCREENSHOT :

[With Android L Theme]

For Gamers!

I tried antutu benchmark 5.1.5 and got 28031 score ( I know it is less) but still i tried fifa 14 and it works!!without a lag!!

Note :

There is no google keyboard pre installed with this rom.When setup comes, instead of keyboard google voice comes up , So After flashing rom , reboot and skip setup! Download keyboard (I used swiftkey ,manually downloaded and put it in internal storage and installed!!) and install it!

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[Mi 3 General] Nyqi:
[MENTION=4956362]Sk.D[/MENTION], so no reboots? Nice!
[Mi 3 General] Sk.D:
Edit :Now faced a single reboot!!
[Mi 3 General] krispuniq:
I have downloaded the Rom but still can't believe it's free from the reboot bug!! I have the urge to flash but somehow not sure if it's worth the effort ..need someone to confirm
[Mi 3 General] Sk.D:
Wait, Yes it has reboots. Just got one now. :( Damn it!!!!
[Mi 3 General] srvoleti:
[MENTION=4956362]Sk.D[/MENTION] Google drive link please?
[Mi 3 General] ZenR2:
Have tried this room u way before it was even posted in miui forum, don't go for it guys it has randoom reboot s , its not stable right now.
[Mi 3 General] srvoleti:
OK, Thanks for the info bro
[Mi 3 General] buggerman:
No custom ROM apart from Ivan's AOSP is actually bug free on this phone. God knows when these guys will release the kernel..
[Mi 3 General] Hadi al-Haiqal:
Just need softlocker apps.. Hee... But battery consume bigger.. Aospa no random reboot with it..
[LG Optimus L90] prof.abkarino:
I have read in here that we OTG can be added to the kernal.

I have a rooted d410 and I want to use OTG.

any guides on how to do so?
[LG Optimus L90] wojtek267:
Where did you read that? I've only read that it is enabled in kernel although it is not possible and L90 doesn't support it.
[LG Optimus L90] prof.abkarino:
here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=52443760&postcount=118
[Motorola Atrix HD] markdemich:
I've been trying for sometime now to install a custom rom (CM11 or anything else for that matter) on my Atrix HD. I got as far a unlocking my boot loader so now every time I reboot, I get a scary warning message saying, my phone has been tampered with.

I've made several attempts to install CWM and even though it seems to install, if I try to boot my phone by holding the power and volume down buttons at the same time, it seems to do nothing, or it will just boot normally. I did try to hold down the power and volume up and volume down buttons and that leads to a menu. One of the options was recovery. I selected that, but then a display of android robot with a red triangle.

Can anyone give me some tips on what I'm doing wrong. I'm a programmer, but I have no experience with android, so you can stay technical but not too "android specific" technical.

Thanks,

Mark
[Motorola Atrix HD] audit13:
Are you installing it via fastboot? Once you flash recovery, do not allow the phone the reboot. Try and boot into recovery.

If you still can boot into cwm, boot the phone, install Root Explorer, and rename recovery.sh to recovery.sh.bak, boot to fastboot, install cwm, and boot into cwm.
[Motorola Atrix HD] markdemich:
These are the commands I used.

adb devices

adb reboot bootloader

fastboot devices

fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

fastboot reboot

Where recovery.img was the CWM one.

Based on another thread, I attempted to rename ~/system/etc/install_recovery.sh, but even though I'm rooted, ES File Explorer not Root File Explore is able to rename that file.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Mark
[Motorola Atrix HD] audit13:
After renaming the file, stock recovery still comse up?
[Motorola Atrix HD] markdemich:
Sorry, there was a typo. I was NOT able to rename the file.
[Motorola Atrix HD] audit13:
Use root explorer to do it. That's what I did.
[Motorola Atrix HD] markdemich:
I had tried that.

I had installed

ES File Explorer

Root File Explorer

Root File Manager Explorer

All seemed to either give an error or just not change the name. Is there a trick? I'm pretty sure my phone is rooted since I am prompted to ask permission to do these things. I think if I can get past this the renaming issue, I may actually be able to install a new rom. Can you help?

Thanks,

Mark
[Motorola Atrix HD] audit13:
Did you change the permission in root explorer to r/w from r/o?
[Motorola Atrix HD] markdemich:
Can you be more specific about "root explorer" which app is it. I've used a couple of root file explorers and none of them can seem to rename /system/etc/install-recovery.sh.

I tried to use Root File Manager to change the permissions on that file to have write permissions. The problem is that it says it does, but then when I look again, it's unchecked.

I checked the /system/etc folder and it has write permissions for "owner". I tried to create a test folder in it. It said it was granted permission, but in the end, the test folder was not created.

Maybe my phone is not rooted properly?

I'm not sure at which point in the rooting process I got this, but I have an app named "#SuperSU". If I open it and check it's logs, I can now see an error message saying "SuperSU Pro is required for this feature". Did I screw up with rooting? Should I use something else. Any help to remedy this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Mark
[Motorola Atrix HD] markdemich:
I upgraded to SuperSU Pro. It was only $2.50. Now the log says, "Unable to chmod /system/etc/install-recovery.sh: Read-only file system"

This happened when trying to give write permissions to that file. Am I doing something wrong?
[Motorola Atrix HD] mega_man:
if your adb is setup and working try using this command in adb 'adb reboot recovery' and see if the phones boots to little android with its heart open given a excalmation mark there press all three buttons at the same time and recovery should open
[Motorola Atrix HD] markdemich:
I did that and when the screen you described displayed, pressed the power, and center of the volume up and down rocker switch so I can get but up and down. After a few seconds the screen went blank and I let go. The phone then just booted normally without going into recovery.