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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] wooose:
Looks Cool

Really "Awesome" ROM

but i have problem with taking video with snapchat its bit laggy... :confused:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Tarek159:
is it good for gaming ?

this rom looks awesome but im also searching for a rom good for gaming , how it works with real racing 3 or any heavy game ? thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nabbed:
Even on a super fast device like this one, Touchwiz is still garbage in terms of fluidity and smoothness compared to Sense. 6

I just switched from HTC One M8, and it was smoother than Touchwiz in almost every respect. Sure, some scenarios are nearly indistinguishable on both devices in terms of smoothness, but some are really bad on Note 4.

For example, whenever something happens in the background that requires storage access, the Note starts to chug.

Do this test on your device. Start updating 5-10 apps in the Play Store, then go and scroll in some other app. You will see immediately that the scrolling becomes jerky and sometimes stops completely for half a second when a new app starts updating. Sense doesn't do that. If you've never played with Sense 6, I suggest you go to a store and check it out - it's completely smooth regardless of what happens in the background.

It's as if Sense can utilize only idle cpu cycles for background processes, so everything remains smooth and fluid at all times, while Note 4 appears to give full real time priority for certain routines of background processes. For a modern flagship devices, this is unacceptable.

I really hope we can get root very soon, so developers can possibly fix this travesty.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adampa1006:
How do we get Samsung to care about this? I took their survey from the email I got. I focused on speed and performance. How else can we alert Samsung? That people who care about speed and performance should have a voice?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rootuser3.0:
Touchwiz is sorta like windows vista lmao
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chamberc:
I doubt anyone on XDA uses Touchwiz versus Nova and the other choices.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nabbed:
Touchwiz here refers to the entire Android "skin, " not just the launcher. You will have jerky performance of the kind I described in the op with Nova and any other launcher.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chamberc:
I have used Nova for years and the performance blows TW out of the water. No "jerkiness" at all.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rippley05:
Tons of people use the TouchWiz launcher. Nova is nice, and I used it on my g3, but I need the stock widgets that can't be replicated.

OP. I agree to a point. Touchwiz is much more fluid that in the past. It has hiccups, but it's a trade off for feature rich software. It's odd, because the g3 lacked features and lagged worse than any phone I've owned. The m8 is buttery smooth, but it's also boring.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nabbed:
You didn't even read what I wrote did you?

I don't think it's a trade off. It feels like there's a fundamental problem with the way the skin is programmed by Samsung.

But I'm not an expert. It would be nice if a developer could chime in.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chamberc:
You bet... Nova is far less laggy than touchwiz.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nabbed:
Please stop derailing the thread. Touchwiz is an android skin, not just the launcher. You can't use Nova while scrolling in a web browser, can you?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sidthekid28:
LOLOL he is just not getting what you're saying dude... give up on him... the rest of us understand exactly what you mean... cannot wait for root.... hopeful after reading the last few posts of this thread ---> http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/general/talk-root-t2908919/page18# we may be getting somewhere...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rippley05:
I'm not an expert either, but it's obvious, at least to me, that the more you cram into an OS..the more it taxes the hardware/software.

It is a tradeoff because everyone who has owned a Samsung device knows it will be this way..so we trade off butter smoothness for software features. Maybe Samsung will figure it out one day, maybe they won't.

HTC was the same way until they stripped Sense down to barebones. While it is nice to scroll on the m8, it is also boring for me to have such a generic feeling device. It's all about preference.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tu3218:
My N4 is very smooth. Especially compared to my G3. Only thing that lags is the recent apps button up, which is a bit disappointing as I use that all the time.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TomTcom:
I agree with the issues with tw. Part of it has to do with the work on the Java threads which is why the choreographer process always drops frames which is the jitter. The kernels are also tuned differently and more for stability than anything else.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deefster:
Since you've made it abundantly clear that the launcher is a separate issue, how is sense boring, not counting the launcher?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crazed_z06:
Just about every Android Ive ever used gets herky jerky when apps are installing. Thunderbolt, GNex, Note 3, etc.

Samsung should be able to tune the response in things like recent apps though. I was using a DROID RAZR M recently and recent apps pops up instantly on that old thing. The Note 4 takes a good second or three to bring up recent apps depending how many recent apps are in there.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rippley05:
Actually. Where did I make it abundantly clear? May want to pay attention to what you read. Wasn't me.

Sense is boring to me. It's generic, doesn't offer a fraction of the software features and customization that samsung/LG offer. That's the tradeoff for being so smooth..and that's what I was talking about. Not the launcher.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cellphone genius:
I'm enjoying touch wiz. I don't see how u guys don't like it. If u don't like it then just don't buy a Samsung phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serinety:
It's more of a fundamental issue with android in general. Here is an older article, but it explains the issue pretty well.

http://techland.time.com/2011/12/07/is-android-doomed-to-lag-more-than-ios/

Maybe lollipop will change how the UI is rendered , maybe not. But I don't think the lagginess is the sole product of touchwiz. Touchwiz does not modify the deep level coding that controls CPU access prority, ISR behavior, etc. Seems like Samsung is trying to do the best with what they got.

Here is some follow up on the guys original post where google developers comment.

https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13fzt2wrwaxwjqxc04cdx0jsve5hhl4b04

While I'm not a software engineer, I am an electrical and computer engineer. I quit my full time job and went back to school at 30 because I was tired of not being educated enough to understand the things I had questions about.

It's funny.. the more I learned the more I realized how astonishingly difficult it was/is to build the technology we have today. The amount of engineering that goes into designing today's modern processors is incredible. Now that I am "in the know" with exactly how these things work, it's a lot easier for me to understand the milestones and why things are the way they are (heat dissapation in modern multicore CPUs is one of those things that is hard to solve and even harder to explain to the layman why it's hard to solve, a commanding grasp of quantum physics and modern microscale transistor design theory is needed) and I don't get bothered by it, I realize that it's being worked on and I can identify the subtle improvements and I recognize the significance of those improvements.

The point is, it's easy to "blame" samsung or Google for the stuttering you are experiencing, but it's better to recognize the progress that's being made. The problem is not trivial to solve and to think it is or that "it should have been fixed by now" is really naive.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trmiv:
This is really the thing that bothers me the most. Bringing up recent apps is SO SLOW. There is a huge delay when you press that button. It really makes that feature useless for the stuff I use most, because I can just hit the home button and the app shortcut faster than using recent apps.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gramsey1911:
For the record guys you can use touch wiz widgets with the nova launcher . To my surprise they are there to use once you long press on nova to add a widget. Here is a picture to show. ..I have the stock weather widget with nova
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mlin:
I totally agree with the OP. I played with my coworkers N4 yesterday and was surprised by the lag. I watched a speed test between the iPhone 6, M8, and S5 where they opened 30 apps from a freshly rebooted phone, then reaccessed all 30 apps from memory. The iPhone finished in 59s, the M8 in 67s and the S5 in 118s. Obviously this is not a global android issue and is something in Samsung's coding of TW. I don't understand why TW causes such a blow to performance, my only guess is its inefficiently coded.

Having some experience with coding for data analysis, its astonishing how many different ways to code something to get the same outcome. What may be more astonishing is that one method may take 15s while another takes 75s+.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trmiv:
Yea that one works. There's actually two touchwiz weather widgets though. . The other one with the background that changes based on weather doesn't how up on Nova.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiripS:
As you know, Galaxy Note 4 using screen have resolution 1440 x 2560 pixels.

Chip set must handle a large workload with big screen. So, the performance is acceptable.

I think Samsung will trying to up performance by upgrade software versions. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gramsey1911:
It showed up for me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rushless:
I do not see lag and using Wiz. I turn off animations in dev settings but that does not make much difference. N4 was smooth anyway. I have the VZW version and only 3gb free, so a LOT of apps.

I normally use Nova but see no need.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trmiv:
It doesn't work the same unfortunately

Here is the widget in Touchwiz.

And here it is in Nova

You get a really basic version in Nova.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazer9:
My weather widget working great with Nova Prime!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] buhohitr:
Try this and your TW will fly...

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/general/speed-note-4-root-t2922169/post56359674#post56359674

The 3 animation settings (in developer setting section), if set to zero. TW will fly to the moon!!!:good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chuck_IV:
Yep. Also 3 of the 4 calendar widgets don't show up in Nova either. In TW, I get a choice of 4, with Nova it just drops the standard day widget and that's it.

I use HD Widgets anyway so I am good.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crazed_z06:
i actually dont think it's a Samsung problem. I just went to play with the Droid Turbo and it was just as fast (or slow) at launching apps. On cold launch, some apps would take a second to pop up even on that device. I ran a Quadrant test and the Turbo hit 22k and my Note 4 did 24k. I know those benchmarks dont mean much, but I sat and played with the two devices for 30+ minutes.. launching apps, text, installing apps, etc. The Note actually seemed quick at launcher cached apps and such.

The Turbo did two things faster:

1. Bring up the recent apps

2. Hangouts

Like many people have mentioned, the recent apps popup on the Note 4 takes too long and many people are seeing ridculous jank in hangouts. Otherwise the speed difference on the devices was negligible. Impressive considering the Note's heavy skin is supposed to be bogging everything down, while Motorola's stockish Android is supposed to fly. There really isnt much of a difference when you use them side by side..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nabbed:
That doesn't do anything for the type of lag described in the op. You need to reread the op to understand what we are talking about here.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nabbed:
Do you happen to have a link to that video?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Poloasis:
Nova is the way to go.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Daciple:
Heart of this with others. I have not seen any lag myself. Just lack of having root, i do miss!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mlin:
Let me see if I can find it, I watched it the weekend the iP6 was released.

EDIT: found it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCln9_mgZJo

Sorry, I was off on the numbers. It was iP6 115s, M8 129s, and S5 178s.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] buhohitr:
OK, only see the head line, now I read your op. I don't think TW has anything to do with this. I owned 3 Android TV boxes (they are not TW), they all quad core and 2 Galaxy Nexus, both running custom firmware they actually almost randomly halt when I have multiple app update. This is more like the Android 0/S kernel thing that set highest priority to quickly load to memory and heavy flush (write) to storage (I/O priority) during the update (try to get the update done as fast as possible by design), which stop other process from taken over the read/write from storage. Of course during this action, it also depended on each setup, like how many process are already running in the back ground etc... which contribute to how much lag you experienced. Devices that you found in the store don't have back ground process like email, facebook, data sync, gps etc...so they should perform better. I would agree with you if the issue only happened to TW. If you do a google search for "lag while updating apps on android" you will see many even Nexus 7 and 10 experienced the same problem. Here is one quote I found on one of the article:

"All android devices will lag while updating. The device is writing a lot of information to the memory and you can't do anything else while it's doing that...at least very well. Updates are only once every day or every few days. What android does is use all it's transfer power during updates (ins and outs to the internal memory). Every phone I've ever had (including my nexus 7) had shown some lag during updates at some point. This is a normal android process."
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nabbed:
Go to a cellphone store, like Bestbuy or your personal cell provider, and try out a phone called HTC One M8. Notice the difference. Report back.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wizzlewizzle:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2922169

-Wizzle
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nabbed:
That's just superficial stuff that doesn't really do anything.

You'll be much better off getting a new launcher, if that's your superficial problem.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adampa1006:
I do have to say though, there are 3 key improvements with "lag" compares to my Note 2 (always had custom roms/kernels).

Faster wake from pressing home button/power button

Faster Home button response (both disabling double tap for S Voice

Much better response pulling down the notification bar. Very smooth

I'm happy about these 3 key improvements, but they (and google/android) still have a ways to go in some key areas.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Benjamin150:
If everyone is so unhappy about the performance with this device, even with reviews and whatnot before it was even out.. why are you guys buying it? If I felt my phone was lagging a lot compared to an older device I had, I would surely not keep that device.

With that said, I'm not saying I don't agree with somethings. Touchwiz definitely has more "jerkiness" to it n some areas than something like a Nexus device.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rippley05:
Yea. I barely notice any difference
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soraxd:
Liked + i actually laughed out loud!

i just read the title and skipped right past to the comments, and feel totally busted and called out haha
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] big70tom:
I left Samsung after my GS2, absolutely despising TW, CURSING Samsung at every opportunity. I have 7 lines on my account between my wife and daughter's, Because I pay the bill, and have a serious phone addiction, I use ALL the upgrades and pass my phones down to everyone. This allows me to get a New phone whenever I want. I've been exclusive to HTC and LG and Sense is, TO ME, smooth as silk. ESPECIALLY newest version. LG overlay, whatever they call it, I really enjoy, and have gotten used to, but addmitingly it is laggy as hell. I get my Note 4. Tomorrow, giving Sammy another shot after all these years, and really hope it's improved enough , so ill enjoy it. I WANT to be a Samsung guy,I mean I'm tired of only having a relatively few cases to choose from where as every company known to man makes EVERYTHING for Samsung. So God help me
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rushless:
Wiz on the Note 4 is fine and smooth. First Wiz I have been able to say that without being sarcastic. Try the G3 and then compare. The G3 can be laggy, but due to the Qhd UI being pushed by a gpu that can not handle it efficiently.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brownmonkey300:
Well, the nexus phones are waaaaay more fluid than touchwiz or sense or anything else. Stock android is not the problem. Its these modified versions of android that are laggy.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serinety:
I think this might be a matter of perception . I personally feel that this phone has no lag at all. I Keep Reading what you are all saying, but I have not seen it on my phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mchief298:
Gonna be honest here.. Coming from an M8 as well? Didn't really notice much stutter. The note 3 was way bad in that department, but I haven't had any real bad stutter or lag. I know it doesn't make a difference, but im also using Nova and swiftkey. Both are lighter on resources and quicker than the stock launcher and keyboard. Just updated 20-something apps and barely a hitch. I miss sense in a way.. But I honestly am not seeing what you are describing.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] QA Bot:
[Q&A] [MOD][28/1/2014][SM-P602 to SM-P601][Aroma] Enable Phone Calls & Update System

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] rehan459:
How to install custom rom on sm-p602

Hi Members

I have bought samsung galaxy note 10.1 sm-p602 model and i want to install custom rom on it. Kindly guide me how to install it on my tab. Thanks

P.S I know this is very basic question but i am newbie and unable to do so by looking at the suggestions so please dont get upset .
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Scirocco_TR:
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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] bynarie:
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[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmarkortiz:
Sorry if this has been asked before but will buying the nexus 6 through tmobile(to make payments) be the same version as the google play one. I dont want all that tmobile bloatware on it but never bought a nexus via a carrier?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shook187:
At this point no one has any idea, phones not even out
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericsignals:
I got my nexus 5 at T-Mobile.. Its stock no bloatware. Even came in a google branded box. I highly doubt they would add bloatware as it would slow the update process if each carrier had its bloat on their own version.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uploder:
^ yup. I bought my N4 from tmobile directly. It was stock android goodness, no tmobile my account crap on it at all lol
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneplus:
Nexus never comes with carrier bloat.

At this point everyone noticed you have never owned a nexus.

Sent from my One A0001
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tidbits:
Galaxy Nexus for Sprint and Verizon had bloatware iirc
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dr Faustus:
Nexus devices through T-Mobile never go through any sort of carrier tampering. Others I cannot comment on but T-Mobile has a strict and well established relationship with Google with the carrier sale of these devices.

The fact that T-Mobile is working with Google Engineers to make Wi-Fi Calling work with their help is insisting they will not tamper with the OS on their end, that if they want anything done they will do it through the official arm of Google Engineers.

T-Mobile is likely the safest carrier to buy a Nexus device from, count on it.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hotleadsingerguy:
lol this guy

I'm assuming you never bought a Galaxy Nexus on Sprint or Verizon.

At this point nobody has any idea whether carriers will add bloat to the Nexus 6. It's foolish to believe they wouldn't try...and considering the carriers have never really sold Nexus devices without it, the question is whether Google won out and got the carriers to sell the devices without it or the carriers won out.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajrich80:
I had the nexus 5 through sprint and there was not any bloat added. Just pure google greatness