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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bbeelzebub:
I noticed something odd about my battery life over the last two days. I switched to Nova Launcher instead of Touchwiz and my battery life improved. (It wasn't bad before anyhow, I get excellent battery life regardless.) I notice under battery that I have far fewer instances where the phone was awake when it was sitting. Not sure why that would be effected by a launcher switch.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
haha my battery has turned to absolute garbage. I'm still on kitkat too. idk wtf happened but i barely get through a day anymore with less than 3 hours sot. ugh
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tu3218:
It's gotta be just Google play services then. Mine is jsut average at this point too which is unfortunate.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] outcasted2003:
I have been on L 5.0.1 and getting 4-6 hours of sot a day consistently with 12-14 hours of battery life. I did remove a few apps like fb, yahoo mail, zedge and a few others. They use alot of battery throughout the day.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] supertoast92:
I've noticed Google Play Services is the main contender for battery drain on my phone, just behind the OS. I also just bought my first aftermarket battery, same size and capacity but Anker rather than OEM. My OEM battery started fizzing out around 10%, after only 6 months of use since I bought my phone! Hoping this one holds up longer. I still seem to get about 4-5 hours of SOT. Hoping that 5.1 shows some improvement.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
I refuse to goto lolipop because of how bad the battery is being reported.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
oh wtf. I seriously need to factory reset. my phone was at like 13 percent and just shut off as if the battery was at 0. so i plug it in.. it's showing 0. I turn the phone on, it's at 0 plugged in, then all of a sudden dies again even though plugged in.. wtf!?! this never happened before with weird false battery reading.

then I take battery out for 30seconds, put it back in, plug it in, 14 percent. seriously!? wtf!?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] outcasted2003:
Not sure why the false battery status. But, I'm impressed with the new Verizon update for the Note 4. I got just about 16 hours on a single charge with 5 hours and 41 mins of On Screen Time.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
wtf. everybody keeps saying lolipop is horrendous for battery life, and that it's laggy and slow. do you find this the case?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] supertoast92:
Huh, interesting. What were you getting before the update for screen time, out of curiosity? I haven't gotten the notification for an update just yet, and I'm getting about 4-5 hours SOT.

Regarding the false battery percentage reporting, mine was doing that as well, starting last week. It would fizzle out around 10% battery remaining, and then just start boot-looping on its own. It was a bit concerning! I just bought an Anker replacement battery from Amazon, same capacity as the OEM one, and it hasn't been giving me trouble yet. Its performance seems on-par with a new OEM one.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
I need to factory reset this thing anyway.. it's never been reset and i got it on launch lol. so i might as well try the new lolipop update.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tu3218:
Most notable thing I noticed about your screenshots is that the awake and screen on time match each other like perfect. I never find this the case with me. Maybe it's that I have Google now on, Android wear, etc. Do you use any of these apps and services? My experience has been there is always little ticks along my awake bar even when screen is off.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] outcasted2003:
I do use Google Now but not Android wear. Before the update I got about 4-5 of SOT on a single charge that lasted about 8-10 hours. So the update has definitely helped my battery life. I don't seem to notice any lag at all, but I do use Novalauncher and not Touchwhiz. The phone seems to be working as good now as it did when I first got it and was on KK 4.4.4. Just remember, if you take the OTA or kies the new update, there is NO going back to KK. The only way to upgrade and have the ability to downgrade back to KK is to use Hsbadr's safe upgrade to OF1.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
yeah I'm def gonna do the safe update today and a factory reset to try it out. here's hoping it's good!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
hmm. went to lolipop, so far so good.. but then around 20 percent the battery started dropping like crazy again just like yesterday on kk. wtf is going on. my batter health is good and the battery itself isn't bloated or anything... it went from 20 percent, then after sitting idle for a minute or so i heard the low battery thing.. 15 percent! then a few minutes later 5 percent. wtf.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] outcasted2003:
My best battrry use so far on LP 5.0.1 build OF1:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
I absolutely hate that lolipop doesn't show time off charger anymore. why the hell did google remove that? like wtf possible reasoning could they have.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Magicman500:
Because, for most users, time until the battery is dead is far more important than the time since it was charged. An option would have been better, obviously, but you have to keep in mind that we're the minority. In most cases though, I find the time until it's dead to be better than the time off the charger. The only thing that's really good for is bragging in threads like this.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
here's a stellar idea for google: keep both.

couldn't have been that hard to put "time since unplugged" normally where it is, adn keep time remaining on top.

i personally like knowing how much time it's been off charger.

either way, i'm rolling back to KK. lolipop blows. had my phone drop down to 3g for the first time ever today since getting it, and while other people around me had strong LTE, my phone would not go back to LTE for about 30 minutes...which is a problem i read about lolipop on this phone. so back to KK for me! good thing i did the safe update. :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] adampa1006:
Battery life, reception, and phone speed (lag) has all gotten MUCH worse since upgrading to lollipop. Reception is so so bad, worse than any other phone I have every had.

I barely every get LTE anymore.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] raziel36:
Battery is fine, until 15%... literally seconds after the 15% warning, my phone went to power save (5% warning), but said 2% and was dead a minute later. From 15 to dead in about 2 minutes of being idle. Craziest thing I've seen. The other night, the 5% power save kicked on, then my phone went into a bootloop until dead. No new apps or unusual usage, battery pull didn't help. Acted normal after charging a bit.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] al2fast:
Since I've lost any hope that we'll have root I've just started taking all updates. My battery life is worse on the latest lollipop B0F1, but I'd say by 5-10% max, still plenty for me to get through the day. Camera seems a bit slower which is more irritating. Cell reception seems to be the same and the phone is definitely snappier without messing with any of the animation transition stuff. Hoping it gets better in 5.1. Depending on how the new moto x is may go that route in a few months...been trying to give touchwiz a go, but my wife's turbo is so much smoother and fast.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nc4648:
Longer battery life

Hey guys, I don't know how many of you have tried this but it definitely worked for my battery life. Drain your battery as low as possible, then take off fast charge and restart your phone. Then charge it to 100%, it's obviously going to take longer with quick charge off but my phone for sure lasts longer... hope this helps guys!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] qs504792:
Hit airplane mode on and off.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
[MENTION=6485176]Bicknasty[/MENTION] started this thread a while back about just that. I've been thinking there might be something to it. The only time I ever use my fast charger is if my battery is really low and I'm going to have a need for it to be charged up soon. For my nightly charge I use a 2.1 amp charger I got from the Verizon store. On an extremely high usage day it will have 15 to 25% charge left after 18 hours. On an average day it has about 40% left. I don't think it's good to fast charge. Everybody needs to just turn off fast charge when it goes on the charger at night to give it a try. It really might help.

Update: Today is probably a bit of a light usage day but here's what it shows. I've never seen my phone discharge fast.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] outcasted2003:
This is my recent battery life.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nlanter95:
Anyone else's battery dropping 20-30% instantaneously? I've had this happen a few times at work now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] outcasted2003:
Never had that happen to me personally or on my wife's Note 4. But I did notice in bad reception areas it uses alot more battery.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
The only reason I can think of for that might be a spontaneous reboot that went unnoticed. 20 - 30% is a lot though. I don't know. Just a thought.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] HwaA18:
I can say that I've lost 22% within a matter of minutes. I'm guessing it's a bug with lollipop. Basically what happen with me is that I woke up from sleeping and turned it off of UPSM at 22%. I go onto my Nexus 7 to check some emails then when I look back at the phone and I see 10%. I shrug it off seeing that it might've been the power to re enable all of the apps. Then after about 30 more seconds my phone is entirely shutting off. I have no idea, but this isn't the first time it's happened. Lollipop was a huge bug-filled update.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nlanter95:
I attached a screenshot of my battery life. I've never had such bizarre behavior before. All Samsung would do for me was replace my battery two weeks after I send it to them.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Annihil:
On my note 4 N910F, my battery last 20 hours after one year of use.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] taeksoo:
I have this same problem... not sure when it started because I never let my phone down that low often.. mine would just drop to zero from about 23%. I called verizon and they tell me my battery is fine and it's probably some app I installed.... so I factory reset like 3 times.... then I didn't install anything.. Sure enough it goes down to below 10%. Now I reviewed my apps and delete all that I don't use and kept what I use regularly... now it goes down to zero at around 13%.

I'm not sure if I want to go through trying to figure out which app is doing it.... but at least I got 10% back... I came here to see if there is some solution to this.

Anyone has any easy solution then please share! Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Sokudoningyou:
Yes, and I'm not even on LP, I'm still on KitKat. I'm starting to wonder if it isn't the fast charge that's messed up the battery or the rom I use (I have a DE, so I'm on FireKat) has something built in, because it basically just started doing it a month ago randomly, and I can't figure out why. I even just completely wiped everything-internal and all-and loaded the last FireKat version for my phone, and it's doing it again. And what's really weird is that it'll say I have, say, 30% left, then suddenly flash the "battery low, you need to plug in" window, and 9 times out of 10 when I do plug in, my phone reboots. If it reboots back up, it claims I've got 0% battery, but if I turn it off and plug it in, the damn battery says it's at the level it was before it went berserk. It's really weird.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
haha yup, same exact problems I had on kitkat too. but i never used fast charging.

Sent from my Moto X Pure Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
[MENTION=1111520]balla48801[/MENTION] and I had a little debate about the "Fast vs Slow" charging thing. After 3 days of changing to fast charging after always using slow I proved to myself that the battery charge does hold up just as well after a fast charge.

[MENTION=1111520]balla48801[/MENTION]

Ok, here's the first day's battery usage, charged on fast charge. I have to say it's just like all the previous days charged slowly. I'll report the next couple days just like we discussed.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE

Ok here's the second day charged with fast charger. Notice the battery graph starts at about 90%. There was about 3/4 to 1 hour screen on time before a reboot. So there was a little over 4 1/2 hours screen on time. I really think it's doing just as well on fast charge as slow.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE

This is the third day on a fast charge. It's holding up good just like always. I'm going to slow charge it tonight.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
powered on my note for the first time in weeks last night.. was at 53 percent. within about a minute I heard the low charge beep, and it was at 13 percent. lmao. this is even after a wipe and i flashed to lolipop for the first time. man, idk what's wrong with this thing. the battery isn't bloated or anything, and condition says good. I have no idea if this is software or the actual battery itself. I charged it to 100 and let it sit over night on wifi while updating all 60sonethibg apps, and it's at 90 percent now. so idk wtf is wrong. I'm gonna leave it on all day and see if it does anything wacky

Sent from my Moto X Pure Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
View attachment 3542798 went from 24 prevent to 12 percent instantly, then I plugged in, and it dropped to 0 percent and powered off.. all within 15 seconds.

going to best buy tomorrow to buy a new battery. I don't get wtf is wrong with this one. it's not bloated or anything.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
We once left my wife's GS3 unused for a few weeks. when we started using it again it did something very similar to what yours did. But after using it a while it seems to be charging right again. It acted a little strange for a while. Once in a while it would show that it was fully charged while it was connected to the charger then drop down to about half charged as soon as it came off. I was thinking about getting a new one but then it started acting like it was Ok. I think one of these batteries needs constant use to stay right.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
unfortunately it did this when I was using it too. the last month of so before I got my Moto X it was dropping off like 15 percent at a time and then dying. the battery health says good, and it's not bloated, but someone once suggested maybe certain cells inside just went bad. oh well.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
I had to replace one once. The temperature sensor inside it went bad and it wouldn't allow the phone to charge it. It kept saying it was too cold to charge. So yeah, batteries can definitely go bad.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE w/MoRom
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Sokudoningyou:
Yeah, I finally caved and bought a new battery--a two pack with a battery charger from Anker--and all my battery issues disappeared. Clearly, there's something in the stock battery that either wasn't dealing with fast charge all that well, or they were just a bad batch. We'll see what happens in a few months.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jkb91:
Hey, on a days I would like to buy Note 4 but I consider two version, N910C exynos or n910 F snap. In my country this to versions are available. In specifications exynos would be better but in normal usage I heard most of different opinions. As I know exynos has wolfson and is less hotter than snap. I know that on 4.4 Snap beat exynos with battery life. What would be better about battery life on 5.1 ? exynos or snap? Is any chance that samsung unlocked 64bit with 6.0? What version could be better for me ? I'm interested mainly making notes and web browsing. I won't definitely play games. Most important to me is battery and no problem with throttling( without games, only web browsing as I set earlier)

Thx for advice!:)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pyzik200:
Man am I glad I came in here. I've been having the same exact battery issues. For about a month, maybe a little longer. I've been going back and forth with trying to root to see if I can fix it and/or buying a new battery.

Will be watching and doing some more reading hoping there is a fix!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gtabnoob:
I had the same insta-drop issues..turns out it was the phone. The black t-mobile note 4 has a known issue with the camera focus that somehow ties to the battery. My wife had a white one and it doesn't apply. Got a white one, no problem. Switched to verizon, got a black one..had the same problem. Switched to white - no problem.

Two different carriers, 2 Note 4's on each carrier...only one with no problems were the white Note 4's on each carrier.

Never trust the blacks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tsachi:
If android system is your number one drainer that usually means that you have too much running in the background (and usually it's not useful stuff you asked for:) ). For first day or two, though, you may just be seeing the system stabilizing. If you have things like google backing up it can be a huge battery drain as it tries to sync your entire new installation. Another thing I've found as a major "system" drainer on my S3 was google location access. I would wake up in the morning to find the phone in wake lock trying to get GPS location (futile attempt while in the middle of the house so it just kept going), I don't even know what google service was calling it. As a result I would lose 20% in an hour of doing nothing. I turned google location off and the problem disappeared. I only enable google location when I actually need it, but if I forget to turn it off I inevitably get that morning battery drain returning.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urmcgwy:
Yeah I'm getting that... It really seems like the high accuracy location tracking was a massive battery drain. I do want to be able to use all of the settings on my phone so I'll be trying to turn it back on and see what happens

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
I'm using battery saving for my GPS location though.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] csstamatin:
That's at 53% and 12 hrs off charger. For some reason I couldn't load up the plain battery info screenshot. Said it was to big.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SCDroid:
Battery life has been really good. Normal day at work today then playing with the spen for an hour or so. I'm at 47% and been off the charger for 13hr 47min with 2hr 59min of screen time. High accuracy GPS, Bluetooth on and on 4G all day. Auto brightness also

Sent from my Galaxy Note 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
well I just don't know how you guys are doing it. oh well. my percentage drops rather quickly when screen is on.. quicker than my g2 did. but idk. who knows. lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] doeboy711:
Here is my first day's worth of use. It's me using it quite a bit exploring it, Facebook, surfing the web and playing games like clash of clans, angry birds epic and boom beach.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] johnpacheco7:
Patch...

Question, has Verizon make the battery patch available. I know that T-Mobile made their available and T-Mobile users have seen a huge improvement in their battery life. I am planning on getting a N4 this weekend, but am concerned about all these issues with battery life.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
mine has been great. 12 hours yesterday and still had 30% left and had a couple calls, and about 2 hrs of screen on time. can only get better from here!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] UPSGuy:
Cheap is an understatement. Official Note 4 batteries from Samsung are only $29.99. That's ridiculously cheap, especially considering it has a built-in NFC antenna in the battery.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
i own 3 of them hahaha
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] suoirotoN:
What is the best way to "condition" the battery? My note 4 comes on Monday and I want to make sure I do it right. Drain battery first and then full charge, how many times should I do this and so forth?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
I know. I'm thinking of using my 50 percent coupon to get that spare battery charger. it comes with a battery right? lol because knowing samsung they'd be like battery not included.. lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] UPSGuy:
I ran mine down to about 10% on day 1 then charged it to full and battery life is great.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
here's a good question for you all... what is your Android system awake time? mine at 7 hours off charger is 1 hour.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Chengalang:
Man I'm not having the same luck as you guys. I'm sitting at 66% with 6h 5m on battery and screen time of only 59 minutes. Android systems is taking up 26% of my battery. I have my battery pretty low and I haven't played any games. Not sure if this is still the "first day battery drain"
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] BizzLeonDaCouch:
go into settings > application manager > select google play services - clear cache, the select google play store - clear cache... Reboot. This should help set things straight.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Chengalang:
Thanks I'll give that a try. Is it something I should be doing frequently?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] BizzLeonDaCouch:
No, whenever I had the same problem, I did this and never worried about it again. Doesn't mean it can't happen again for you, based on how you use your device - but you should be fine. Let us know if that helps (check back in a day or so)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] buhohitr:
You guys should only post "screen on" time, this is the time you're acutally using your phone. So forth, it only do around 8hrs or less which little less than ok. I also heard that they just released an update to address battery performance and stability issues (J4 build), but only found for other models, but not the Verizon SM-N910V model. I can't find it anywhere. I will continue to investigate this new update. If anyone knows anything please let us know.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
you're calling 8 hours little? seriously?

i've never once in my life hit 8 hours screen on time on even A TABLET.

you have to compare hour off charger AND screen on time so you can see idle drain, etc. you can not just go by screen on time.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] buhohitr:
Idle time can be easily control like back ground sync, google backup, facebook, Google+, gmail, hotmail, location service, disable wifi always on etc.. so it varies from everyone depends on how they setup. This means you can't compare apple to apple. Screen time is the actual time you are using your phone. A good screen on time should be at least 9hrs and above for today high tech device. You don't see more than 8hrs because you haven't using one. Do a google search there are plenty of device that can exceed 8 hrs. This is why Samsung is releasing an battery update firmware http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/galaxy-not...ificant-battery-improvement-stability-1469727
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urmcgwy:
Don't know if their update will help what's going on here... Any ideas?

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] theoretically:
Excellent battery life here
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] truckinwithmydroid:
Decent battery life here.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Lieutenant Fudge:
I'm getting awesome battery life, i unplugged at night yesterday, played a game for an hour, watch some vids, went to sleep, played more, then used normally.

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I just popped in my charged battery and now I'm back to 100% and this baby is charging again :)

I love having two batteries.