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[Galaxy Note 4 General] ozaghloul:
It just sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks. The fingerprint scanner is pure garbage. The worst part of the phone. The OP's video is useless. What's funny is his attitude blaming people who have problems with the scanner for being stupid. Even funnier yet, he thinks 63% is an overwhelming majority.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] OnlinePredator:
Useless video. I wanted to like the fingerprint scanner, but it has proven awkward to use and inaccurate for my general swiping. If I think about it hard while I am doing it it will generally be accurate, but I just want to unlock my phone quickly, and in this case a pattery or PIN is quicker and possible with one hand.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom-Helge:
I'm sorry to say it, but to me it seems like you haven't understood how the fingerprint scanner on the Galaxy Note 4 works.

The fact that you believe that registering the fingerprints in different direction is the problem says to me that you are mixing the fingerprint scanner to the Galaxy S5 with the fingerprint scanner on the Galaxy Note 4.

The fingerprint scanner on the Galaxy Note 4 is heavily improved over the fingerprint scanner on the Galaxy S5.

The reason you have to register your fingerprint in different direction is to make sure that your fingerprints are getting registered better when you swipe as you wont have the exact same direaction on your fingers everytime you swipe. The guide the Galaxy Note 4 gives you on the phone even shows an animation that you have to swipe the finger on a different direction. This animation is shown after you have registered your first 10 fingerprints. After that, you will have the ability to register a 2nd time under the same fingerprint setting by pressing register again on the same window.

The video in my first posts explains it all. And everyone who follows that will have a fully working fingerprint scanner that is 95% sure to register your fingerprints on your first tries.

There is nothing wrong with the fingerprint setup the video in my first post shows as that's how you actually are going to set up the fingerprint scanner to be sure to have it working the correct way.

Read my post over.

The video is not useless, because that's how you are supposed to set up the fingerprint scanner on the Galaxy Note 4. Just because you don't understand how to correctly set the fingerprint scanner up or how it works, it's not the fingerprint scanners fault.

63% of the peoples in here have said that the fingerprint scanner works much better after following the guide in the video in my first post. So i'm not sure, but they aren't lying as this poll is not forcing them to say 'yes it's working' if it doesn't work. So according to 63% of the users who have answered the poll, the guide on how to set the fingerprint scanner up are working perfect.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Slai:
The fact that I have maybe 1/30 missed registrations on one handed unlock really shows me that the scanner is far better than some here claim. I did not register a lot of different directions, but did 40 swipes for right thumb, slightly different parts here and there, just as normal.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] riz157:
Lol. Seriously funny samfan

its a function which should work flawlessly without having to faff around, it should be as easy as setting up pin lock.

You think 63% is good seriously sam man wake up, a phone priced around £600 should work 99% of the times. I'm not iPhone fan but see how well the finger print works, every time. Don't tell me the finger scanner on samsung is more secure because you swipe no its more because it dont work.

Btw I've swiped every angle still doesn't work. I'm sending mine back had enough.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dr.m0x:
You do realise that it's optional to use the finger scanner? No matter if you send it back at least we won't have to see you whinging about the phone at every opportunity.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EVOme:
First thing first, I am not comparing the scanner to anything. However, I do have an S5 and an iPhone 6, IF I wanted to compare. Since I am using the Note 4 I don't care about the others.

When I said your video contradicts others....see my thread I created here

http://xdaforums.com/note-4/help/fingerprint-scanner-sucks-t2934650

There's a video in there that says just the opposite of yours to get a higher success rate. Neither work well enough to get into my phone by the 3rd swipe, one handed. For comparison sake, I started scanning my thumb in every direction possible because that's what I had to do on the iPhone and it makes sense. I even scanned somewhat sideways, the exact way I'd be holding with one hand to unlock. Still at least 3 to 5 swipes. Forget about it if you have a cold or semi wet finger.

Samsung has delivered a great device, but they missed the boat with the finger scanner. ..simple as that. Trying to jab Apple at every corner instead of perfecting and making what they are trying to mock, better.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom-Helge:
Says the Samsung hater. I have been reading your other topic, so yeah.....

It is as easy as the pin lock once you are used to the placement on the fingerprint scanner and when you have got used to the swiping on the fingerprint scanner.

That's not the point. The point is that those 63% says that the fingerprint scanner work much better AFTER they have set up the fingerprint in the same way as the video in my first post shows. 63% says that the fingerprint scanner works much better than they first though by this.

So 63% is quite good.

Well, the thing here is that the fingerprint scanner on the Galaxy S5 and Note 4 are infact more secure than the fingerprint scanner on the iPhones. Because when you are swiping, you aren't leaving your fingerprint on your home button. Not only that, if your iPhone gets stolen and the thief REALLY want to get into it, he can copy the fingerprint on the Touch ID button. You can't do that with the Galaxy S5 and Galaxy Note 4.

So why isn't that more secure than the iPhones?

Seems to me that you got a phone with a defect fingerprint scanner.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom-Helge:
As for that link, he was setting the fingerprint scanner up wrong or his fingerprint scanner wasn't working correctly.

And you can't compare the Galaxy S5 fingerprint scanner to the Note 4 as the Note 4's fingerprint scanner is improved quite alot over the one on the Galaxy S5.

And here is a suprise. The guy who linked to a video in the topic you linked to was me. It was me that made that video to show that you can swipe upwards to and not only downwards. So if you are registering some fingers by swiping downwards, then you can automaticly swipe upwards without registering any fingerprints upwards.

Once you have registered a fingerprint one way, they will work both ways.

So in short, if you have problems with the fingerprint scanner after following the setup guide in the video in my first post, then you are either setting it up wrong or you have a somewhat defect fingerprint scanner.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nycdarkness:
The scanner works for me but it takes more than 1 try often. If you ever used the 5s,6 or 6 plus. The fingerprint reader on the s5 and note 4 is just crappy. It works, but it's crappy. I am sure the swipe down gesture was most likely to prevent some apple troll patent.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Kiwito22:
I took me just one try to set up and it works 99% of the time one handed or two handed... I think people just don't know how to set it up. And the 1% when it didn't work was totally my fault
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Slai:
I agree its inferior to the apple version and the huawei version. But its not like it will molest your family. It works quite well. As I mentioned earlier, I rarely have missed readings even when onehanding it. Which I mostly do. And I just registered 40 prints just... straight up holding my phone in one hand and swiping where my thumb felt comfy swiping. Worked like a charm.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cmd512:
I've been using the Exynos variant for just 2 days, but it's been working flawlessly. When I was setting it up, I think I had to reswipe two or three of the tries. But since then, it's unlocked everytime on the first swipe.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] OnlinePredator:
Have you even done this on the Note 4? The instructions while doing it TELL YOU TO DO THIS ANYWAY. Man you gotta relax. The scanner is inaccurate as so many people are having issues with it, including reviewers. I love this phone man but you are sitting there on your high horse just because it works for you, therefore everyone else is doing it wrong or they are stupid. I appreciate you are trying to help people, but like many including myself have said, the video does not help when the scanner is not working well in the first place possibly due to their fingerprint or other environmental/firmware related problems.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom-Helge:
I have correctly set up the fingerprint scanner like it should and like many other have done here according to the video in my first post. So yes, the fingerprint scanner is working really good.

You might not utilize the fingerprint scanner fully out if you strictly follows Samsung's own guide on how to set up the fingerprints on the phone, so that might be the problem for some of you. So if you follows the video in my first post, you will have a fingerprint scanner that works great as long as you don't have issues with it.

If me and many others in here can get the fingerprint scanner to work really good by setting it up correctly, then it's not the fingerprint scanners fault that you aren't able to do the same.

There are 3 options here.

1. You are misunderstanding the whole setup process and are registering your fingerprints in a wrong way that doesn't utilize the fingerprint scanner fully out like the video in my first post shows.

2. There is an issue or several issues with your firmware / TouchWiz ROM that prevents the fingerprint scanner to work like it should.

3. Your fingerprint scanner is broken and doesn't work like mine and many others fingerprint scanner is working.

Most of the reviewers are doing a mistake when it's about the fingerprint scanner on the Galaxy Note 4. Because most reviewers is assuming that the fingerprint scanner on the Galaxy Note 4 works exactly the same as the fingerprint scanner on the Galaxy S5 does, and then assume it's not that great and are setting up the fingerprint downwards with just one finger.

They doesn't work exactly the same here as the fingerprint scanner on the Galaxy Note 4 are improved quite alot from the one on the Galaxy S5.

And like i also have said earlier, the placement of the fingerprint scanner is not placed on the most optimal place, so you might have to use the fingerprint scanner for some few days before you gets used to it. Once you are used to it, it's pretty good and it will work good as long as there isn't any issues or problems with your firmware / TouchWiz ROM or with the fingerprint scanner itself.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] vTizzle:
What about removing it. Says that administer restricted or something. I can't go back to no security
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom-Helge:
Do you have a picture that shows that message?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] riz157:
Yeah along with the other 36% of users on this forum. I sent the bugger back anyway but thats because of tw.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pikul:
I did it like the video sugested, also register it 3 times with the same finger and im happy with the results, its working great so far, i probably fail to unlock it single handed 2 out of 10 times wich its fine, thank you.

Sent from my Galaxy NOTE 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Slai:
That only means 36 percent can't get it to work as it's meant to, or have higher expectations, or so. Not that it doesn't work well. Flawed poll, really.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ce:
The recognition rate of my Note 4 fingerprintscanner becomes less accurate the minute I connect my device to the charger.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom-Helge:
No, it's not an art as it's a pleasure to use once you have got used to the fingerprint scanner.

In the same way as you doesn't get impressed that easily.

So, it's much more hassle to make sure to remove the fingerprint on the Touch ID button. Then it's just better to just swipe and have the fingerprint removed at the same time instead of just pressing the Touch ID button and then swipe on the button to remove the fingerprints.

When i'm using the fingerprint scanner on the Galaxy Note 4, it will recognize my fingerprint on the first try on 95% of all the times i'm using it. That's because i have got used to the fingerprint scanner and because i have correctly set up the fingerprint scanner the correct way.

Yeah, 36% of the users on this topic that have 1) not set up the fingerprint scanner correctly to fully utilize the fingerprints scanner, 2) a defect fingerprint scanner which means it's not working like it should and it's not because of a bad fingerprint scanner, 3) issues with the firmware or with the TouchWiz ROM. So maybe reinstalling the ROM will help.

TouchWiz on the Galaxy Note 4 is actually pretty good as it is now. It's much much better than it have been before on earlier Samsung phones.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] couragedragon:
I'm sure like many things like this, your results may vary. (I have big strong hands so I can easily hold my phone steady while swiping my thumb one handed.)

Still never having watched OP's video, I've been using my fingerprint scanner very successfully with a one handed side thumb swipe with either hand. Like 80-90% success rate.

This dropped to maybe 60% when I wasn't holding my phone in one hand (on a table flat or holding two handed), which makes sense because I programmed it one handed each way.

I just recently had to change it to pattern because it was a pain when I have gloves on, but it's still used for my Lastpass reprompt which is awesome for convenience and security.

|> transmitted from deep inside a Verizon Note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom-Helge:
I'm just letting you guys know that my fingerprint scanner are still working perfectly as it did when i did create this topic. And it haven't got any worser by the time as someone was experiencing.

So my conclusion is that the fingerprint scanner on my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (SM-N910F) is working extremely well.

Those who are experiencing that the fingerprint scanner is getting worser does indeed have a faulty fingerprint scanner. The same applies if you can't get it to work after following the video in my first post.

EDIT: And if you want to secure your apps by using your fingerprint, then you have this awesome app for that: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rickclephas.fingersecurity

So now you can use your fingerprint scanner to other usefull things than just unlocking your phone.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Zamboney:
The fingerprint scanner is complete ****. Seems a lucky few got one that's working ok but most like me have a unit that if you're lucky has a 20-30% recognition rate. Apple really crushed Samsung in this aspect.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Archiimonde:
This guy gets it. FPScanner is useless, especially when using it one-handed. I had to turn it off because I was afraid of dropping it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom-Helge:
And how can i be sure that you have followed the video guide on how to set up the fingerprint scanner on my first post?

There are actually tons of reviewers out there that thinks that you can only use the fingerprint scanner with just one finger and only one way because they think it's the same fingerprint scanner as the Galaxy S5 have. And because of that, alot of users of the phone assumes the same.

But the fingerprint scanner on the Note 4 is improved from the fingerprint scanner on the Galaxy S5, so you have more ways you can use the fingerprint scanner on the Note 4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Archiimonde:
It's definitely improved from the S5, but it's still ****.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom-Helge:
According to 64% of the peoples who have answered the poll here says that the fingerprint scanner works as good as i claim it to be, which isn't taken as bad. It's infact pretty good considered that alot of peoples does set up the fingerprint scanner in a wrong way to utilize it fully out.

Now i'm not sure if there are any differences on the fingerprint scanner from the models that are sold in europe to the rest of the world. Infact, i haven't heard that anyone here in Norway have any issues with the fingerprint scanner, so i do believe that the issues you are experiencing are a result of a faulty fingerprint scanner.

A good example is this guy who thinks the fingerprint scanner is bad while not realizing that he have set it up in a wrong way and use it in a wrong way.....

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[Galaxy Note 4 General] Archiimonde:
Nobody questioned that. It's working, alright, but it's still way behind the iPhone's. I'd like to see how many in the poll who have had an iPhone, and what they answered.

If you use the phone's guide to set it up, it's a piece of ****. If you use specific guides, and follow them carefully, it is decent, nothing more. The iPhone's setup is fast, and really hard to get wrong.

So if we use your poll data again, you think 36% of the FPScanners here are faulty? If that was the case, I think Samsung would've commented on this "problem" by now.

It's fine if you are happy with the Note 4s scanner. But no matter how you put it, the iPhone's is superior. The whole "you set it up wrong" thing is just ridiculous. You shouldn't have to do that to get it to work properly...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sefrcoko:
For what it's worth I completely agree. This guy in the video keeps swiping with his thumb turned sideways...over and over...and over! Mine works fine, as long as you know how to swipe for optimal recognition on this particular device of ours. Sure it could still be optimized for one handed use, but on the bright side at least this design allows the scanner to be used for broader purposes. Either way, it's hardly a piece of garbage! :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom-Helge:
The thing here is that the fingerprint scanner on the Galaxy Note 4 are infact more secure than the Touch ID scanner on the iPhone. The reason for that is because on the Galaxy Note 4, you have to swipe to use the fingerprint scanner. Because of that, you don't leave any fingerprints open on the button to anyone who decides to steal your phone.

Anyone (that are going to steal your iPhone) who are smart enough will wait until you have unlocked your phone with Touch ID and then steal it to have your whole fingerprint on the button so they can scan it out and use it to get into your phone. It's not that easy on a Galaxy Note 4.

It's a little bit more complicated to set up and use the fingerprint scanner on the Galaxy Note 4 over the iPhone 6 / 6 Plus, but i do infact believe that most peoples prefers more security over more ease of use that have lesser security. Without security, then what's the point with the fingerprint scanners to begin with then?

Do you prefer ease of use with lesser security or a little more hassle to use and with good security?

Once you have set the fingerprint scanner correctly up and have got used to the fingerprint scanner on the Galaxy Note 4, it's actually pretty good to use.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom-Helge:
Ops, double post.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Archiimonde:
Where did this come from? You didn't answer anything from my last post. How is anyone supposed to take you seriously, when you don't even reply properly? How do you know this is really a realistic problem? Have you tested it? Have anyone? Is this just a bunch of assumptions you've made? Give me sources.

No, it's not. I'll give you an example. I was grocery shopping, and at the moment I only had one hand available. I couldn't unlock the phone, and had to wait so that I could use both of my hands. It's way more convenient to just use the pattern unlock.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom-Helge:
It comes from common sense. Anyone does understand that pressing a glass or a window with a finger will leave your fingerprint there that anyone with access to that glass or window will see it. Now try to swipe the same finger on the glass or the window. Do you see the fingerprint there after that then?

No you don't. And this is my point about the security. If you still want to feel safe after getting your phone stolen, then make sure to not leave the fingerprint widely open to everyone on the button. This gets solved on the Galaxy Note 4 as you don't leave your fingerprint on the button as it gets swiped away from the button once you use the fingerprint scanner.

Again, it comes to getting used to the fingerprint scanner. I know it can be a bit cumbersome to use in the beginning, but once you have got the feeling on how to use it and how you have to hold the phone to be able to unlock the phone with one hand (like i can do now without any issues), it will be a breeze to use.

So it's still easy peasy to use it as long as you utilize the fingerprint scanner 100% fully out.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Archiimonde:
How is this scenario in any way realistic? It's not like the print is molded into the home button. There might be a slight chance to get parts of a print. Unless you unlock it and don't use it until somebody steals it.

Is has nothing to do with getting used to it. I used it for a long time, and was unable to unlock it comfortably with one hand. And that you admit you have to "hold it right" to be able to use it, is laughable.

You're also still avoiding a lot of my replies, moving to a different subject.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tom-Helge:
Now you are in fact using a phone that is not really a one-hand phone to begin with.

If Apple can get away by telling you that you are holding the phone wrong after the antennagate scandal, then we for sure can get away by telling you to hold your phone in a little different way to get the fingerprint scanner to work good.

Yes, incase you wonder. The fingerprint scanner wasn't easy for me either to use in the beginning, but the more you use the fingerprint scanner the more you gets used to it. I did that and so should you.

There is no excuses to not use it when you infact can use it much more easily as long as you makes the effort to get used to the fingerprint scanner and to hold it a little different to be more effective.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] psycovirus:
The scanner is working beautifully. When i started using it, it was cumbersome and fiddly. But after 2 weeks of utilisation, it became 2nd nature. Now i can unlock my phone most of the time in 1 swipe using only one hand. I swipe my thumb. It is much more elegant than other types.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dr.m0x:
I can make mine work 90% of the time but find pattern unlock is still quicker and easier. Besides someone could still unlock my phone by chopping my thumb off with the scanner.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabi11:
Mine also worked ok.

But then I bought a case with a little lip that protects the screen.

It became much harder to swipe and recognize because my finger always hits the lip....

Stopped using it eventually...

BTW, the case is incipio dualpro.

With a normal lip to protect the screen like most cases have....
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Archiimonde:
You are again avoiding my confrontations about your claims... I never said anything about antenna gate, only the sensor. Even if you compare it to the antenna gate, it doesn't make the sensor any better. It's still ****, no matter how many mistakes Apple made in the past. Compared to the iPhone's, which is highly functional, it is horrible. No matter how many antenna or bend gates Apple had.

This is my last reply in this thread. As you seem too narrow minded, and incapable of backing up your claims, or even commenting on mine.