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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iunlock:
My N4 is encrypted and both my boot and lock screen are the same.

I'm glad they went with a 6 character as the encryption has also been beefed up for the N4.

Rule of thumb: Make sure your password is at least 16 characters or don't bother encrypting your device. You'd be wasting your time :) Remember...16 minimum.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] webstas:
I think the OP wants what i would like

two different passwords ex one for the encrypted partitions and the other for the lock screen.

what i want to see is a big hairy password for my boot time encryption but then i would like the convenience of the fingerprint scanner to unlock the device.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iunlock:
Ah yes that would be nice. Having to enter in a book every time is a bit annoying. I do have it set to where it won't lock immediately though. It helps somewhat. I'm glad the camera toggle is there too for quick access.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kal-El7:
No Encryption

My N4 refuses to encrypt. Why? Is it because I am currently using "My Knox" to do all my work stuff in?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
Are you encrypting everything including sdcard or are you excluding anything?

Does it affect boot-app launch times or impact performance?

I'd feel better about getting the Note 4 asap once this encryption matter is clarified.. - Thnx:cool:

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I was going to start a new thread on encryption until I noticed this one got a reply today:)

Ideally I'd like no-minimal performance impact encryption along with greater unlock convenience. Apparently that will be available in Android L coming to the Note 4 end of November/early December according to http://www.sammobile.com/2014/09/18...te-4-might-get-android-l-in-novemberdecember/ but I've also heard it may be January (hopefully sooner). Anyone know how Android L will handle sdcard encryption as Nexus 6/9 lack sdcard slots?

Until then perhaps you could consider other 3rd party encryption apps such as SSE - Universal Encryption, Encryption Manager etc as mentioned in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYcqo5CEKgI

[YOUTUBE]watch?v=AYcqo5CEKgI[/YOUTUBE]

Android L encrypts by default with many personal unlock options including separate PIN, passwords even trusted faces ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-YphkBt0j0 ) & trusted devices ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVmSWQ30Tv0 ) which should offer improved security via standard encryption along with greater unlock convenience I'd like to see it seems (i.e. more focus on just locking out the non-trusted):

[YOUTUBE]watch?v=n-YphkBt0j0[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]watch?v=rVmSWQ30Tv0[/YOUTUBE]

Thoughts on when Android L will be officially available for the Note 4 & how its default encryption will handle sdcard slots?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
No one else has tried encryption could comment on any performance impact?

If the sdcard is not encrypted & your device is lost-stolen no one is worried that all your sdcard data would be accessible without any password (e.g. by popping it in a pc or smartphone with sdcard slot)? :( :eek:
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Angelusz:
Howdy. My Z3C has gotten wet quite a few times already, without trouble, I've had it for a few weeks now. Today, I decided to test it in the shower with some music (BT speakers) and browsing some sites. Naturally, beforehand, I checked the sealing on the waterproof slots, they were closed snugly. The shower wasn't too hot, about 30 degrees celsius.

I was curious to see how the touch would hold up under wet conditions (surprisingly well!). It did get splattered quite a bit, since I was exploring the device its water resistance. All went perfectly and the device seemed fine.

About ~15 minutes after the shower, I noticed something strange. My device 'buzzed' three times and the screen went dark. Curious, I tried to turn on the screen. Nothing. Holding the powerbutton longer makes it repeat the 3 buzzes, shortly flashing the screen (sony logo, slightly displaced and with some red). This, to me, seems like water got into the device after all (how!?). It should be able to withstand some water splatter easily.

So now I'm slightly panicking... has anyone had similar experiences and found solutions?

EDIT: Started digging for answers and took out the SIM and MicroSD. And what do I find.. a damp micro SD card. It wasn't soaking wet, but some water definitely creeped into the top slot. I'm very unimpressed with the water seal right now. I'm letting it dry and will see if it starts tomorrow. Fingers crossed.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2mal16:
Does not sound that good. But you should be able to claim warranty. As its a new phone the seller is obliged to provide evidence when blaming you for having damaged the phone beforehand.

Did you charge it with a magnetic charger adapter or did you always fumble open the seal and connect it via micro usb?

I directly bought a magnetic charger and am currently using the phone as ftp server in order to exchange data with the pc as i never want to touch that tricky door again.I can imagine that reusing the seals over and over again can lead to degradation and consequent loss of waterresistance.

I really hope that your phone miraculously survives but even if it does it would be better to get a replacement as you never know what damage the water did. And fluids are pretty toxic , for all electronics. Your phone could just die 3 months later.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Angelusz:
Thanks for your reply and sympathy. I have used a magnetic charger from day 1. Funny enough, to prevent exactly this problem. The only times the slot has been open, was during installation of the microsd and initial installation and data transfer. From there on out, it's been closed for a week or two.

It did survive being in my pocket while I got soaked canooing (teambuilding with colleagues). I even made some pictures and videos then. Somehow, it didn't like the shower. Perhaps it got a bit too steamy?

Hard to say, but I will definitely claim warranty if it turns out the device is now defective. I've not used it outside specifications. It could be in the same conditions on a tropical rainy day in the southern lands.

I'm just going to go and sleep soon (>3AM here), rest my worries and have hope for the morrow!
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChiGGz:
Did any of the water hit the phone directly out of the shower head? That's alot of water pressure, of which I'm not sure the phone was able to withstand. That's why its generally recommend to not put your phone directly under running water.

Good luck though... Keep us posted
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spider1029:
Try the pressure sensor test:

1) close all flaps

2) dial *#*#7378423#*#* (7378423 = SERVICE)

3) service tests/pressure sensor

4) press the screen, pressure should go up
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Angelusz:
Planned to (and should have) gone to bed, but didn't yet (really will after this post!)

The water jets should be no problem. Read more about IP ratings on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code In short: Immersion requires a way higher rating than high pressure water jets (and a shower cannot be considered high pressure).

As for the pressure test: Impossible, the phone doesn't start anymore. But I didn't know that existed, neat!

I've now put it in a bin of rice and on the central heater (no worries, insulated it so it won't heat up to enormous temperatures).

I'm pessimistic.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boojay:
Really sorry to hear that man. I've been showering with my phone too XD, luckily without incident. I know a few others who've been doing so regularly as well so I'm pretty confident the phone can withstand it. Let's hope your phone revives tomorrow, but it IS strange water got in if you recall sealing the phone properly.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pricey2009:
Water vapour is less dense than water and will travel through the seals.. It is not meant to go in hot water / steam..
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dsteppa:
It's true that vapor is less dense, but coming from the first ever water resistant phone, I have seen some videos. On one of the videos people were 'cooking' the XZ and there were no problems afterwards.

Here is one of the vids:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slngeQtyTlg

The Xperia Z even had lower resistance ratings then the Z3 Compact.

In my opinion 30C water shouldn't be a problem at all. I have showered with my XZ multiple times and with hotter water temperatures.

Most of the times the seal isn't the problem, but the adhesive that wasn't glued properly.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Angelusz:
It's dead. A night in the rice did nothing. Whenever I try to start it, it vibrates 3x, flashes the sony logo and turns off again. When I put it in the charging cradle, it loops this action.

I'm contacting the supplier to get it exchanged.

For the people above here, I did not expose it to "hot" water, just warm. It was not exposed to high-pressure vapors. The seal simply wasn't as good as it should have been. Reading about the IP ratings, by all standards, it should have survived this adventure without trouble.

Unfortunately, that is not my luck.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] km8j:
Sorry that you are having this issue but steam is a different animal than submerged water and I think most electronic manufacturers specify against it
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ishaang:
Hope this gets sorted...please do let us know how good or bad the exchange process was...
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XDAcube:
Does it work now?
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Angelusz:
Exchange process was horrible, more than two months. They repaired it, and it works. I've already gotten a new unit in the meantime though.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rmartinezdl:
Hijacking sort of this post, I just bought a Z3 compact, and I chose the z3 compact over the z1 compact because I read that the IP rating was higher, and ive been reading around that the z1 compact worked flawlesly while the z3 compact is dying on almost everyone. ugh. Now Im afraid of watering mine.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davebugyi:
I think it's region/version dependent - I know 2 other people (and myself) who have D5803s (Central Europe 1 version) and the phone is perfectly waterproof.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nith2:
Brought my Z3C from Spark here in NZ, just recently been for a surf after work (didnt have it out there with me) had it in the shower with me to get rid of the dust from Dyna drilling all day, now I have the same issue... Gonna get a hair drier on a low heat onto it soon....

****en disappointing though, Im an electrician by trade and know all about IP ratings, this phone should not be given one if it can not withstand what its rated at. I always had my Z1 in the shower with me with no issue (only the touch screen issue, thats why I have the now dead Z3C)

Will let you know about drying it with direct heat soon. Realistically if it was stuffed cause of water damage it would most likely just not work at all.

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So after using the hair drier on it (info tab pulled out n all) and dropping it on the floor in frustration, it is now back to a normal working mode. I am assuming that it was the hair drier and not the drop that fixed it. Next step was to spray the **** out of it with electronic contact cleaner.

Hope this works for someone else. Dont be scared of heating it up or even using contact cleaner. The equipment shouldnt be that sensitive :) then again it is a Sony product...

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I dont think this relates to the IP rating of the phone, millibar pressure doesnt change when flaps are opened, and i doubt the phone has a built in air pump...
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hannah Stern:
To trý ☺☻☺

Please try this: http://forums.xda-developers.com/general/off-topic/guide-how-to-make-phone-waterproof-case-t2998771
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k3vinheych:
im thinking of getting my water damaged z3c repaired, did your phone come back waterproofed? was the repair worth it?
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daniurescu:
did the supplier fix it for you without any question? it happend to me and i dont know what to do...
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] E-Chan42:
how did it turn out for you guys?
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abj2aqua:
Guys,

So I'm facing the same problem. I submerged my phone into a bowl of water just to show my girlfriend that my phone is actually waterproof, which she didn't believe, and a decision I instantly regretted when about 2 minutes after taking out the phone it first showed SIM removed and began to restart. Turned on, screen was responsive, then it showed SIM card inserted, and began to restart, but never turned on afterwards. Whenever I tried to turn it on, it would show The SONY logo for a split second and then give three vibrations and turn off. Putting it on the charger would put it on a loop of the same. Now I've put it in a ziplock with lots of rice. Its been 7-8 hours. I tried switching it on twice in between but to no avail. Decided to leave it untouched with the rice for the next 24 hours. Any ideas or suggestions? Please guys. Unable to locate my mom's hair dryer at the house. And don't have enough money to get the phone repaired since I know it'll cost about as much as 80% of the original price.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dsteppa:
Worst thing to do is to try to turn it on after it shutdown automatically. Since you do seem to get to the Sony Logo, try to flash a new FW with Flashtool after 48h or something.

gl
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abj2aqua:
Now the Sony logo has stopped coming up on the screen. Backlight flashes for a split second and phone vibrates thrice.. That's all. Any suggestions as to what path to follow now? Leaving it with the rice for now
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abj2aqua:
Guys, so finally today it booted up good and proper, but WITHOUT THE DISPLAY. Am able to unlock and lock the screen. Phone boots up. Backlight on the display works proper. But can't see nothing. Put it in charging for now to see whether a bit of heat does the job. Else back to the rice grains. Any suggestions? Help appreciated
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dsteppa:
Then it seems as if your display broke, you can either choose to replace it yourself, or get it repaired. Getting it repaired will cost you more time, more money. Doing it yourself (which shouldn't be that difficult, but your phone won't be waterproof anymore) will cost less, but has more risks.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abj2aqua:
For now I've just put it back in the sealed bag with rice. The display was working for about 6 hours after the dip whenever I tried turning it on. After that, nothing. Keeping my hopes up for now. Will let you guys know my experience. Wish me luck.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flave7:
Now it was my turn :(

My Z3 compact died.

Yesterday i checked and re-checked (already had a SONY Waterproof Camera that had problems after water-contact so i am very carefully) ... so i was saying i checked and re-checked the side flaps on my z3 compact, everything looked perfect. I went to the sea with it, to take some photos. 5 Minutes after the phone gives the "no battery" logo, turned off and won't start.

Already tried the rice method, hair dryer ... sun... and nothing. i think he died.

How did the warranty worked out with the rest of the people?
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] punktnet:
The IP6X standard is not suitable for salt water. It says aswell on the warranty card and on the Z3C Sony site that phone must not be used in salt water. So, if you are du****s, why you claim warranty on that? Where is Sony's fault here?
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pyres:
Because in the ads they use it at the beach, that's why.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bettii:
My brother's Sony Experia Z3 Compact stopped working after taking underwater pictures in our pool. It took about half an hour after water exposure for the phone to 'die'. Due to the fact phone replacement is a expensive option we tried easy alternatives to get it working again.

At first when pressing the on button the phone vibrated but the screen didn't turn on. So, we left it over night because we were told leaving it may make a difference. In the morning, the screen turned on but the touch screen wouldn't work. We got out the hover and hovered over every possible entrance a water could get in. such as the charger part and the headphone part. we did this for 10 minutes and it worked :good::laugh:

Hope this helps :)
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skinniezinho:
Another victim of dead phone after water exposure.

Did the pressure test, tested it in the bath, then today I took some pictures in the swimming pool. Washed it in normal water.

After that I made some calls, and leave it on the towel , maybe due to sun the water got into it , now I have condensation in the cameras.

The flaps were closed.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nanu*1:
Another victim here, I have always used a magnetic charger, only ever using the USB port for flashing, this week I used the phone under a few inches of fresh water for the first time and the phone is now completely dead, with condensation on the lenses. I have just emailed the supplier to see where I need to go from here, I'm really unimpressed.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skinniezinho:
For the ones that took the phone to warranty, got it denied and managed to talk with sony and get warranty again can you post what kind of talking you did?
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lkiriac:
Same stupid problem

2 weeks ago i was in a holliday, in one day, at the pool, i decided to test it in water, make some photos, etc. After 5 minutes the phone was dark. I checked the flaps, both was closed well, everytime charged with magnetic port, and after i saw on the top right corner, the display has a bit moving when i pressed, so that was the problem and i didn't saw before that corner.

I called sony xperia, and told me to send it in service with warranty, because isn't my fault so they will fix it and everithing fine, but they send it back to me after 2 weeks, unfixed, with reason: inadequate used and out of warranty.

I called back to sony an now told me: if they decide this, she can't help me.

And another thing, they broke me the top flap. what can i do now?

The phone was bought from UK in December last year, and this happen now in Romania, i'm not longer in Uk.
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drorcun:
my z3c's camera don't work after taking photos in the pool even after I make pressure test before.. compass, proximity sensor, ambient light sensor, and acceleration sensor don't work too..
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Justinerayricafrente:
What will i do my xperia z3 screen not working and become dark the lights before become wet
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] enigma9o7:
I'm new to this phone, Android, and CM11, so I'm not sure which of those three things are to blame...

I expected that when I push the camera button, the phone would switch to camera mode as it did on my previous phone (not a smartphone) but it doesn't appear to do anything at all. I can use the camera by opening the camera app, then the camera button does work to take photos so I know the button itself isn't broken.

Is this expected behavior, or does it work as I expected when the phone was stock? Is this possibly a bug in CM11 (I'm using 21OCT2014 nightly)? Is there a setting I can change to make the camera button switch to camera mode?
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] enigma9o7:
Nobody knows? I can try flashing my phone back to stock to see, but that means I'll have to learn how to backup first so it's not as easy as someone just answering...
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] arrrghhh:
I'm pretty sure on stock it launches the camera app properly.

I think the issue with CM is we share the device tree with many other devices (hence the moto_msm8960_jbbl name - it covers all the Moto's with that SoC and bootloader).

Someone was asking about that in the CM thread. I'll try to find the post - I meant to when I originally saw your thread and got distracted.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] enigma9o7:
Thanks! I'll just cross my fingers a future CM will make it work, not a huge problem in the mean time.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] arrrghhh:
Ah, finally found the post.

(I kept forgetting to search for it, lol).

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=55752030&postcount=34

Edit - looks like http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/74257/ was just merged recently too. Try the Nov1 (or later) nightly of CM.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] enigma9o7:
Thanks again! I tried 4 November, and sure enough, it works. I have to hold in the camera button a second, (not just push it once), but it did indeed open camera app.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] arrrghhh:
I believe this is by-design. You don't want to short press the camera button and have it always open the camera - as the press could have been a mistake. Long press ensures that is indeed the action you wanted.

Enjoy.
[T-Mobile LG G3] DigitalChris602:
New update will supposedly check for root access.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2917024
[T-Mobile LG G3] mgbotoe:
Doesn't it already do that?
[T-Mobile LG G3] aclegg2011:
It does already, but I guess the T-Mobile app reports to them if your phone is rooted. If it is I guess T-Mobile can terminate your phone warranty and your insurance. At least that's what the thread says. I'm not to worried because I uninstalled that stuff. Dunno if this is legit though.
[T-Mobile LG G3] mgbotoe:
Some who had their phone send of the information about root been denied service for sure
[T-Mobile LG G3] CheesyNutz:
ollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllld

neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwws

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tmobile could give 2 ****s if your rooted .. i handed my note 3 in with custom rom and the guy said OH cool your rooted and running the same rom and me we talked about about 30 mins
[T-Mobile LG G3] DigitalChris602:
Not exaxtly. The old app just ran a diagnostic that happened to tell you if you're rooted. The new app will actually request root access and report findings to T-Mobile.
[T-Mobile LG G3] CheesyNutz:
thats strange i updated mine and its not asking for root permission O_o
[T-Mobile LG G3] Toneman07:
I've never had an issue with tmobile carrying about a phone being rooted I've traded in rooted phones and gone through insurance to replace rooted phones. I doubt they care. Store manager by me is running a custom rom on his own phone
[T-Mobile LG G3] ajr0312:
Use Xposed RootCloak and it will hide root from T-Mobile App. When I hit diagnose it says my phone is not rooted. That is if you guys care to use the app, of course.