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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Could be a glitch in the UPS system, although they are pretty "error free" when it comes to tracking and reporting. I hope you get it today.

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I know what you mean. I have been experiencing essentially the same thing on the S5 Dev Edition. Retain development was slow, but better than the Dev Edition. I noticed a developer name Nitroclycerine (spelling?) posted a ROM for the Note 3. He is an excellent developer and produces first class ROMs. I ran his ROM on my Moto HD and S4 Dev Edition. It would be nice to elicit his support. I'd be willing to contribute to buy him a Note 4 Dev Edition. I know how to contact him if there is enough interest by the Dev owners. I'm not a crack flasher, I can live with TW as long as I can root and get a custom recovery. That should be fairly easy with an unlocked bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wyatt57350:
I ordered 10/27 at 1120 CST and received a tracking number with a original ETA of 10/28 (overnight shipping). I received an email from UPS today (10/28 @ 0602 CST) stating they will not be able to deliver the package today and they do not have any further information. I live in SD and received my shipping notification from Samsung at 1709 CST and a notification from UPS at 1732 CST about my shipment. The tracking number for UPS states the order was processed at 1809 CST. I am hoping the package was produced later in the day and missed yesterdays shipment and not something like Samsung holding up our orders because we did not pay the new $699 price or something else equally trivial.

Wyatt W.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] boynamedstacy:
Yes nitro is an awesome dev, I've used his roms on many a device. It would be worth shooting him a message to see if he were interested in getting a free phone for development purposes and I would chip in as well. (especially since he uses inverted apps in his roms, one of my favorite things to get once rooted [emoji6] ) Maybe we could start a new thread for this discussion if nitro is all for it
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
I'll get in touch with him to see if he is interested. If he is then we should start a thread to see how many would like to contribute. If the retail version can get root and safestrap it would benefit them also. I let you know what Nitro says.

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Message sent to Nitro. We'll see what he comes back with. I'll keep us Dev owners informed.

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I talked with Samsung this morning. My details are in the thread above. The individual I talked to did not indicate there was a problem on the Samsung side as far as holding up orders. He confirmed my order would be shipped today. They may have had a screw up in the warehouse or our orders did not get "pulled" in time to meet the last UPS pickup yesterday.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Boss428man:
Also see if he might be interested in teaching us how to fix Verizon roms updates for the Note 4 and maybe some tips on how to make our own roms. This way he doesn't get all the pressure and we can grow as a community. I am interested in learning more about everything.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
You know that is a good thought, but my the time it takes to teach us (I'm speaking about me) we will be on the Note 10 and Android Zulu, LOL. You're welcome to pose that proposition to him if you'd like but I don't think he has the time or the desire to take on a "student". I for one wouldn't know where to start. I can program a computer, but knowing and understanding mobile devices, cellular networks, and all that stuff is way out of my league.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
might as well add note 3 to that list. but i agree i would love android L, unlocked bl and root that would make this note 4 unreal!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
I looked at the Note 3 forum yesterday and he has his Eclipse ROM posted there. I don't know if he has quite development on the ROM or not but he has done Note 3 work int he past. Here:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2620723
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Boss428man:
When I get my Dev Edition, I'm going to do some research. I don't have any clients at the moment so I have some time. Developers are becoming a scarse resource. We have to try and do something ourselves.

Was it you that posted a couple days ago that rom building was easier the themeing? If not I should hunt down that post. I'd be happy to start buy just being able to fix the stock roms. What do we need to take out or add so that they work correctly on the Developer Edition?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
No that wasn't me that made the comment about theme and ROM development. I remember reading it though. I'm in total agreement with the direction you want to go, I'm just afraid I'd create more bricked phones than ROMs that we can flash safely on the Dev Edition, LOL.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Jefffet27:
It's live again!!!!

Check out the following link. Hopefully they start honoring all the preorders now.

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910VMKEVZW
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] csstamatin:
I've done some roming back in the gnex days. Just for myself, but I am also getting a dev.ed. so I might try to learn a little more about porting, then build others roms for us. Nothing solid, but I do want to do it and I should have some time and background. All depends on who wants to help me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
Mine just shipped!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Boss428man:
Just got my tracking! I had to call because the order isn't showing up on my account.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Jefffet27:
Just got my shipping confirmation too! Yippee!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Ok I used radio nerds method and it looks like I have a developer version. So the phone has no sim card as I took the one that came with it out and I didn't put mine in yet and I signed into my wifi and google but google is not dowmloaded all my apps yet. Is it because my s5 is on or because I have not put the sim card in yet? Will samsung smart switch copy all the apps too even there is only 1 sim in 1 phone?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Yes and I don't know about samung smart switch, I've never used it. Just power off your phone, place your old sim card in and turn it on. As soon as the phone logs into a Verizon tower your card will be recognized and your service with Verizon established. Then log into your gmail or playstore account with the old sim card installed. Your apps/data that you've had google backup/sync will be restored.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Well the play store updated the apps on the phone and it knows the apps that I purchased but it is not downloading all my apps automatically and it will take forever to do them individually. Wish I knew how to kick start this. I restarted the phone but that didn't work.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
When you download and install an app there is an option that allows playstore to automatically download and install updates, or in your case, download and install the app if it needs to be replaced. If you didn't select the right options when you last downloaded the app then you'll have to replace it yourself. Playstore will remember what apps you have had on your phone, but it won't automatically replace or update the app unless you tell it to do so. It's called "Auto Update", you have to have that checked.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
I think you are correct, Mine came flashed DE, but they forgot to factory reset after they flashed it. It first came up in home screen, instead of language screen. If you PM me I can send you my DE aboot, Pit, and any other mounts you want.

Thanks,
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ryanbg:
If I could get a full dump of that build, that would be amazing.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
That's how mine was. Developer Options had already been activated too. Per the advice of some people here, I did a factory reset before rooting my phone though.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] lbp102:
Yep mine too. Not sure I'll wipe just to install a recovery and su though
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
I didn't just wiped before rom install running great here
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Well it arrived today. Checked using nerds method and it is a DE. Not going to TWRP and root for a while. Nice phone. I like it over my Galaxy S5 which is also a nice phone. Foxfi appears to work. Developer functions were not activated. When I restarted one time it says it was updating something? Running 4.4.4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
To enable the dev options go into about phone and tap build number a bunch of times. Done.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Thanks I knew how to do that, just mentioning that mine was not enabled where some other folks said there's was.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Gotcha. Mine werent enabled when it arrived either...and needed a factory reset as it was already booting to the home screen.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ilpleasu:
Is it a true dev phone and what's the asking price?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hacksaw999:
The precious! The precious is miiine!

I got mine yesterday. Just like many other people's it's obviously a converted CE and just like with Radionerd, it looked as if they didn't factory reset it.

Still, it took TWRP fine and I had a Nandroid backup immediately. Ran into a small glitch in that it doesn't show up on my PC as a drive so I had to jump through an extra hoop to get SuperSU installed. Once i had that done I popped in the SIM from my old Galaxy Nexus and I was good to go. Many thanks to all who have contributed their knowledgeable posts that helped me achieve root!

Hmmm... After reading comments in this thread I'm wondering if I should have factory reset it myself. Maybe that would fix whatever glitch is keeping it from showing up as a drive when connected to my Windows 7 PC. I've already tried reinstalling the drivers on the PC even though they worked just fine with Odin.

Interestingly enough, the phone does at least show up as a media device when connected to my PC if it's in TWRP.

Any ideas, anyone?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
pego can you get fox fi to work so that when ever the screen shuts off you don't need to enter a password while its running? I got it to work but everytime i shut fox fi down and start it up again. I have to go thru the same process of clearing credentials etc, for it to work without entering passcode after the screen dims. On my s4 i would do the process once, and no matter how many times i shut the app down and started it, i was good to go and never had to go thru the clear credentials process again.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hacksaw999:
Just in case anyone else is running into this issue I found the fix in a new post on the Q/A forum.

I dialed ##366633# and found the 'Enable DM Mode' was checked. I picked 'Disable DM Mode' and the phone started working with MTP, etc.​

Anybody know other secret codes to dial to get to other hidden settings?

Cheers!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
When you attach USB look at the drop down menu, click on the USB options, then select what you want MTP or PTP. If you doing something fancy like ADB, you have to allow the computer from a pop up on the device, same for SU, must grant for access.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hacksaw999:
Thanks! Appreciate the help. :)

I managed to solve the issue by dialing ##366633# but I'm going through manually debloating things now so if I screw something up and have to restore my backup I'll check to see if your much simpler solution would do the trick. On one hand I hope it does. On the other I hate to think I missed something that obvious. :o

Cheers!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
Thank you hacksaw for that ##366633# dial code! I was racking my brains out trying to figure out why my PC wasn't seeing the Note 4 DE. And now it does! Thank you Thank you Thank you!

Also, rather than debloat by deleting things, I just freeze them in Titanium Backup. I never EVER delete system files... instead I just rename them with a .OLD extension and they're completely harmless that way but if I jack something up, I can just name it back again to normal. I have also developed a healthy habit of making a fresh nandroid backup JUST BEFORE doing anything fancy in the /system partition. It's saved my digital hide a few times!

Got the Xposed Framework and Wanam up & running. Tweaking settings here and there. Until a good custom ROM comes along with comprehensive customization options, this is a pretty good substitute. CHEERS!

:D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] triton302:
It doesn't have the engraving or matching model names under the battery and on the box, as many have pointed out, but in the ODIN screen thing, it says Mode: Developer.

PM me and we'll talk price.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] lbp102:
Do Disabling DM mode is the way to get the drives to work with win7 huh? I was wondering that but then I read that i need DM mode for other things like flashing roms. Samsung is really very different than moto/htc/etc.. new world for me but i'm loving the phone.

BTW.. does anyone else's screen flash red around the borders when they are running apps?

Edit: Interesting.. disabling DM Mode didn't let windows see my phone. But i'm using an old moto cord since i'm at work... maybe it's that.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
WARNING FOR DE OWNERS. MAKE SURE REACTIVATION LOCK IS NOT SELECTED WHEN USING ODIN TO INSTALL TWRP AND FLASHING SUPERSU. If Reactivation Lock is selected you will essentially turn your phone into a retail version. Go to menu>settings>security>make sure REACTIVATION LOCK is not, is not, selected.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mattdb:
My phone will never open the security settings, it just crashes.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Do you have a DE and running stock, no TWRP and no root?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mattdb:
I have a DE with TWRP and root installed and working.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Mine is DE stock no twrp and root
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Wow, and you can't get into your security settings? By chance did you check the Reactivation settings before you installed TWRP and rooted? I ask because my Note DE came with the Reactivation setting not checked. My S5 DE came with the Reactivation setting checked. It was a big problem for a few S5 DE owners who didn't read the warning to uncheck the Reactivation settings before installing TWRP and root.

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Can you get into your security settings? If so, uncheck the Reactivation Lock before you ODIN TWRP and flash SuperSU.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mattdb:
I honestly dont remember. I can however get into TWRP and Root works. I could remove the wireless charging cover and get into security settings, yes, I said remove it, but that quit working as well.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Ok, I'm not sure why the charging cover has an impact on security settings, lol, but as long as you can get into TWRP and all your apps that require root are working you must be good to go. Maybe someone will come along and explain why/how the charging cover impacts your ability to get into your security settings.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Yes I could get in and it was unchecked
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
You're good to go when ever you decide to ODIN TWRP and flash SuperSU. I recommend you just check to make sure Reactivation is unchecked before you start the process. Just to be sure.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mattdb:
Well for grins, I booted into safe mode and could get into security settings and it was unchecked. So it appears some app is blocking it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Good to hear. Yeah, probably an app blocking security, but I don't have a clue what app would do that. One of our fellow Note 4 DE owners is already experiencing the issue with the Reactivation Lock checked when he ODIN TWRP and rooted. He now can't get into TWRP.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DeetzSw:
Not a DE?

I think I may have been sent a CE instead of the DE...

As some of the rest of you, I was sent 2nd batch, no markings on the box, sleeve, under battery, nothing.

My invoice enclosed says DE, and the appropriate model number, but when I boot into download mode I get:

and

I have not powered up the device (i.e. booted), I've only charged the battery and first power-up directly into download mode, could this be the issue why I'm not seeing "Developer"?

I'm afraid I got shipped the phone that they "forgot" to flash into a Developer unit....

Any thoughts before I send it back?

Deetz
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bdorr1105:
This has been said many times in here and its going to keep coming up...If you paid for a Developer Edition you have a developer edition...They are converting CE to DE and thats why there is no etching. I have one just like your device. Its safe to rood. Reactivation Lock is off. All you have to do is follow the instructions for how to root via ODIN and if you have trouble with the computer seeing your device meaning the MTP connection, then there is also a fix for that. Follow the Root process step by step.....Dont forget to enable Developer Options if its not already and check USB Debugging to make sure it is on..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
That could be. First, I would continue through Download mode and into Maintenance mode and do a Factory Reset. Raidonerd has a thorough step by step of this process a few pages back. Do a Factory Reset before doing anything else and see if that doesn't reset the phone to DE. Then try Download mode again and see if you get the something.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bdorr1105:
I have the same exact thing, He wont be able to push TWRP if his bootloader is not unlocked, it will just fail to write....At any rate

I uploaded to YouTube my phone identical to yours...Go Here

Attached is a picture of the back of my Developer Edition with no etching or anything just like yours and the CE as well...There is also a screen of SuperSU as well. You are good to root, just make sure you pay close attention to the the forum Here as he lays it out very very well and its simple to follow....As soon as you are up and running, def make a copy of your aboot
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Yeap, I understand what you're saying. I was under the opinion that for the CE phones "converted" to DE phones that if a factory reset had not been done after the conversion the Developer status would not show up when checked in download mode. Maybe I misunderstood that post. Thanks for your help.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DeetzSw:
I'm still a little confused, as there was supposed to be a definitive test to show that you've got a DE.

That was to get into download mode and it should show "MODE: Developer" and I don't have that...

I've got this:

and my SKU is VZKE not the "M" that should distinguish the DE....

Just being overly cautious, I want to TWRP and do a backup without first booting so that it is "just as received" if I've got to recover from anything...

Deetz
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bdorr1105:
Oh ok I think I misunderstood as well...I did not factory reset and I doubt mine was reset by Samsung because developer options was already unlocked....He has to install the Samsung Drivers, let them fully install while booted completely up..Once they complete, reboot into stock recovery, drivers may install from there as well....Then reboot into download mode and it should complete driver setup, Odin should recognize the device.......

When the phone is in download mode and attached to the computer, have you opened Device Manager...You should see it connected as a SAMSUNG ADB device...If there is a yellow exclamation point then there are drivers issues. ODIN should see the phone regardless of boot loader status or Factory Reset.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
When you first booted the phone, did it go directly to Home Screen? Or did it start from intial startup screen Language?

Before giving up, go into either stock recovery mode or Maintenance Boot Mode, and to a factory reset. Then look if the "Mode: Developer" is now there.

Stock recovery is Vol up, Home, and Power. then do factory reset.

Link to maint boot screen

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=57166130&postcount=1322
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bdorr1105:
Delete*****

Ok I totally can't believe I missed that, I never noticed is mine said Developer Mode or not...I just flashed TWRP and because it was unlocked it works, I am not 100% sure the mode even matters. I could be wrong but if you try and push recovery, it will fail if its locked and not write. It should not do anything to the phone, I doubt that they forgot to unlock but I suggest following the above from radionerd
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
no mode matters. if bootloader is unlocked it will say Developer Mode in bootloader
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mattdb:
Well I just decided to bite the bullet and hard reset and reroot and start reinstalling to see what kills it. For now, I still have access to security settings.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bjtcars:
I finally was able to uncheck the Reactivation Lock while in safe mode and can now boot into TWRP Wheww!

Oddly enough my security settings still crash as well. Maybe we have the same app installed. I will probably go the same route as you this weekendto figure out the problem.

Thanks to radionerd and jpcalhoun for helping me out.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mattdb:
Quoting my self. It started after I got my Samsung Gear NEO up and running.....Crashing again now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bjtcars:
Well unfortunately I don't have that app so now I am wondering if it is an app problem or maybe something else.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] PaulPizz:
yes i know.. is there anybody who has a copy of there partitions for backup reasons is my question. and willing to share. aboot.mbn, boot.mbn, sbl1.mbn,
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
You might know, but the lazy reader might not know those partitions are individually device specific, coded to the phone. It will most likely hard brick if they are put in another device.

That's why it's a good idea to make backups of them, before they accidentally, flash the stock retail TAR.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DeetzSw:
So I wanted a backup "as out of the box" - didn't want to boot - so I powered up directly into Download mode.

That said, I did the factory reset and I still have the same screen in Download

CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official

SYSTEM STATUS: Official

and no, repeat, no MODE: Developer.

I don't think I want to risk ODIN'ing TWRP to see if this will flash, do I?

Given that Samsung probably couldn't replace it if I sent it back... Do I risk trying to flash it and send it back bricked....

Deetz