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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
... hmm either I didn't read that right or I quote the wrong person. My apologies good sir. Although it does sound like your saying the hold up is etching.

yes but before they leave the factory it's more than just etching, they all have special aboots. And I'm sure this process takes little to no time. They just don't want to put to many out there. It's a waste if they don't sell them all.

The short supply goes back to the very first DE, which was the s 3 and note 2

People were up in arms about the locked bootloader samsung came out with the DE as soon as Adam released casual. They were left with a lot of useless phones that could not be sold. the first wave goes and then they restock and they sit. I don't blame them for the limited runs.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Don't worry pal. My first developer edition phone i was told directly from them that they had to be etched before they shipped. This is what they told me. Second developer edition phone i bought other forum members were told the same thing. Don't shoot the messenger. I never said distribution center..You did.

I already know about the short supplies and ect..

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Do you know why they were held up this time? Or should i share with you what i was told again so you can add to the story?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
Probably the same reason as any other time. This is right on target they usually release more every month or so.

And I don't mean to sound like a troll. This thread has just gone crazy. this is no different than any other developer phone. Wait till it comes out and buy it. This has gone to the extreme for some reason.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Nope not the same reason as all the other. Someone mentioned the reason earlier. Doesn't matter at this point. Family time.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hacksaw999:
I've got my tracking number. My N4DE should arrive on Tuesday. I'm thrilled I was finally able to get one. I was afraid I had missed the boat entirely.

Am I correct in thinking that the DE will not come with a Verizon SIM card and I will need to either get a new SIM or move the SIM from my old Samsung Galaxy Nexus over? I hope both phones use the same size SIM.

The SIM is just an identifier, similar to how a MAC works in the PC networking world, right? There wouldn't be any issues degrading performance if I used my old Galaxy Nexus SIM in the Note 4 Dev Ed, right?

Well, I'm off to find and download everything I need for root, TWRP and other fun mods in preparation for my new phone's arrival. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ebrinkis:
Comes with Verizon sim. Many said they just moved their old card over. (but usually mentioned note 3).

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Dear Note 4 DE owners and soon to be owners,

These are Great times -- we are getting one of the best phones made, bootloader unlocked and ready to root. While there is a high level of stress and anxiety about getting the phone," will I get one?", "is it tracking?", "did I waste $20 on next day shipping?"., etc. Let's not lose sight of the big picture -- WE are the XDA Note 4 DEV ED community! WE have or will have a great phone, and we will help each other build and get awesome mods and ROMS. Please, let the petty crap go and build and strengthen our community rather than causing bad feelings and going out of our way to irritate each other. Everyone's opinion is worthwhile and correct to them. No more bashing -- it serves no purpose other than hurting our awesome community. Peace and DEV Ed Note 4 to all.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
So has anyones shipping changed from order processed ready for UPS? Last time this happened and it didn't change, we waited another 3 weeks for the phone to come into stock.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] igknight:
Mine has changed to picked up by UPS. I was getting worried about that myself.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Nice glad to hear that.:good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
She's on her way!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Nice, i wonder if mine is gunna change.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Poloasis:
I got the same too from UPS, picked up.

ETA 11-26-14 12p 5 pm
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
So a lot of us will be moving to new phone tomorrow. One thing I DON'T want to have to again is log back into 15+ sites plus have to redo my bookmarks on my browser of choice. It appears Helium is able to copy all user data for me and back it up. I had it run a full backup of everything it can, so hopefully my stupid game high scores and such will be saved to. So if you want to attempt to back anything up, it can't hurt. I used it once before like 3 years ago and it worked.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup&hl=en
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mjlewis0102:
Just ordered mine. So..........does UPS deliver on Thanksgiving?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Got a departure scan...getting closer. Guessing we will have a good group in the TWRP/Root thread tomorrow night...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] LagunaTechie:
My order shipped as well. I am a little pissed off that they did not ship out the order yesterday. If I understood their policy right, I believe they claim that if an order is placed before 4:00pm, then Samsung Accessories will ship that same day. I placed my order at 8:43 a.m. and I thought that would qualify. At least I have learned to be patient after waiting 3 weeks for the phone; I can wait another day. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
Fellow DevEd users, I've made a new thread in regards to the roll-out of the phone and the future of our dev program. Please see the post here along with project diagram: http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon...ition-community-stretch-t2953503#post57052271

This thread is just one giant ball of commotion and we'll need a place to organize our thoughts. For now, that thread will serve as the Pipeline Post for all discussion and contributions towards custom development and support.

Sincerely,

Virgil Woods
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Well mine hasnt changed. Doubt its going to by now. Means i wont be getting my phone till hopefully friday as thursday is thanksgiving. Samaung has not come thru with this order on anything they have said. I really want to just cancel my order and buy a different phone cause of this entire aggravating transaction. It has most definatly been the worst buying experience ever. Way to go samsung.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Mine just was scanned at the airport at 9:03. I will be picking up in the morning at my local UPS.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
If yours was scanned that late the maybe i have a chance at seeing it tomorrow. Not holding my breath though.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
I'm sure you'll have it delivered tomorrow as long as there aren't any unforeseen delays or bad weather.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Maybe we're sitting by each other? :)

DFW Airport, TX, United States	11/25/2014	9:03 P.M.	Arrival Scan
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
LOL.. hopefully strapped up and very little turbulence
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
My area is suppose to get some snow.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Any significant accumulation? If not, you'll be fine.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
4-6 im in jersey. Of course i wouldnt be pissed at samsung or anyone if that happend though.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
ups estimates next tuesday as i am in mass
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Hopefully mother nature cooperates. I'm sure you'll get it. Mine is being held at my local facility but otherwise delivery was suppose to be by 3 pm. I hope you get it!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Did u have overnight shipping?

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Good, im glad atleast some of us are getting them.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
no regular shipping
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
I'm airborn.

DFW Airport, TX, United States	11/25/2014	9:43 P.M.	Departure Scan
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ilpleasu:
You actually ordered one of these Dev Note4's? If so from who and how much?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] herrdrjonz:
Well thanks to this thread I was able to get one which comes 1 December. I've waited this long so I'm not really drooling and I have a retail to use in the meantime which I'll return to Amazon. I'm looking forward to adblock as I've had it for years and didn't realize what others normally put up with until now.

I suppose development of any ROMs will still be scant for a DEV phone as it isn't owned by many. I actually like TouchWiz anyway. But getting my backups restored off Titanium would be nice too.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Direct from Samsung - $699. Expensive, but I have unlimited data so I have to pay full whack either way...might as well get an unlocked boatloader and root.

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910VMKEVZW
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
If you're rooted on your current Android device and have Titanium Backup, you can use your saved Titanium Backup files to restore data to your new Note 4 DE.

When I got my Note 4 DE, I:

-did a full TiBu backup on my Note 3, then

-ODIN'd TWRP before I even did the startup wizard on the Note 4,

-put my SD card from my Note 3 (which had all my TiBu backup files) and my Verizon sim card from my Note 3 into my Note 4,

-made a full TWRP backup,

-flashed SuperSU

-booted, went through the start-up wizard and let my apps start to restore from the Playstore,

-made another TWRP backup,

-started restoring data from TiBu (I did this a little at a time, making sure things were working properly and making periodic TWRP backups along the way),

-downloaded Xposed Framework, Wanam Xposed and some other Xposed modules and started experimenting (again, making lots of TWRP backups as each thing worked, or restoring from a TWRP backup if one of my experiments went awry), and started experimenting with other mods and inverted apps.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Yeah, I've gone down the rooted path before and know the basics, however I'm sitting here with a regular Verizon note 4, and TB won't work on it. Helium seems to have, so until I root my N4DE tomorrow, Helium it is.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
Cool, and understood. Hopefully, though, those steps might be helpful to some folks who aren't quite as experienced with switching devices, or haven't done it in so long that they're rusty.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ilpleasu:
Sometime back I was searching the other threads and saw a link to purchase the Dev version much cheaper, but flashed the Alliance Rom on my Note 3 and my bookmarks were lost in the Dolphin browser. Have searched from a to z just can't find it!

Note: was wondering if I ordered my Note 4 from The Samsung site would they put my order on backorder, don't need for that to happen?

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I too. . Have unlimited data, I always pay the full amount. Just sell my previous Note 3.... it's sold as soon as my Note 4 arrives. Sold the Note 3 for 425.00 so I just add 300 and I'm off and running.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Mine landed safely in Illinois. Yeah! 8 more hours until i have it.

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They are in stock still. No backorder
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Well my order has not changed. Not gunna be here today.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
Out for delivery and big snow flakes falling feels like Christmas
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
Out for delivery baby!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Yup, out for delivery as of 20 minutes ago. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] plainbum:
When will Vzw put the Note 4 on 5.0 Lolipop?

Sent from my SCH-I605
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
The Developer Edition will not receive any OTA updates. The only way we'll get 5.0 is if someone give us a Lollipop ROM.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] plainbum:
So more than likely you will have to wait til the non-DE Note 4 gets it?

Thank you for your reply
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
At least until the source code for the device is released...not necessarily the VZW version though. In the past the developer community has successfully ported ROMs using other carrier's base OS. I would bet good money that the developer edition will get a 5.0 ROM before VZM releases one to the retail community.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Poloasis:
Out for delivery!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Anyone else that gets theirs today see if the phone boots right up to home screen plz.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ilpleasu:
My thoughts exactly, at best I'm hoping that it happens anyways.

Never owned a Dev addition phone so this is all new to me. I'm Samsung all da way. This is indeed an awesome experience for me to venture into. .
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] soukie:
Just ordered mine. Now I have to sale my one day's old retail Note 4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
I'm going to add this to the project pipeline page but I just got my phone 39 minutes ago despite the totally inaccurate tracking information that stated Monday. My unit booted straight to home screen and did not have any markings or etching identifying it as Dev Edition, like my other unit.

I'm going to get to the bottom of this after lunch as I had promised you all. I'm also going to attempt to root the phone and see if it is indeed a dev edition.

Sincerely,

Virgil Woods
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ilpleasu:
Wow! After going through many hrs of research I decided to take the plunge and go with the Dev addition.

Since day one of the Samsung Note phones come into being it's been my choice of smart phones. With the Dev addition one have more control over the device.

700.00 to me living of of SS retirement is a large chunk of cheese. ..lol

.. on another note I get a chance to play with my device technically and not be afraid. .. just my thoughts.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
Did the box/packaging have any DE identifying info on it? There were pictures of a DE showing the phone to be exactly the same as retail.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
No Bob, today's unit had no identifying features whatsoever designating it as a DE compared to the pics of the box and back I had posted in this thread last month. I will only know if it really is a DE when I try to root it in after lunch and it either goes through or fails.

This unit, if it turns out to be an unbranded DE, leads me to believe that Samsung is doing this in-house on regular retail units.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ilpleasu:
You just ordered your Note 4 hummmmm wonder if I ordered my Note 4 if ordering over night would it come tomorrow?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Mine has the etching but found it strange that it booted straight to the home screens.

Some one yesterday mentioned the phones were delayed because of a software change. I called and was told something similar. Because it booted straight to the home screen i think something was done. Development options was already showing up in settings and usb debugging was checked. I hope you can find something out.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ilpleasu:
Think I will hold off until some clarity about this device has been reached.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
They are done in house. I'm not trying to start up yesterday again, I know a person or two may have not believed me yesterday with chaotic shipping posts but they are etched and bootloader/software is done last minute. If you boot into download mode it'll tell you if it's in a developer device.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
i was told the reason why people did not recieve them yesterday and shipped on monday was because of the etching.

And also despite my tracking number that samsung provided wich still says shipping label was created...i have recieved it at my house. Samsung said it was a dummy tracking number they sent me. Because they sent mine free overnight they had to put it through as ups ground. Lol im so confused, but i got my phone. I am not home to check out any markings confirming its a DE. I will check later.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
It would be nice if they would just release the bootloader unlocker
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
they wont do that ever.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jam2315:
That's weird it has no distinctive showings that it's a DE. Can anyone else confirm there's is the same? Mines at home waiting for me so I'll kno here n a few hours :confused::confused::confused:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
So would a date with Kate Upton. And I think that would be more likely than Samsung ever releasing retail phones with unlocked bootloaders.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
it only says on box and under battery
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
And Virgil just reported that his had no distinctive markings at all. The DE he just received is exactly the same as retail. Read up a few posts.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
i need to see under battery and a bootloader photo then to determine if it is or isnt
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Poloasis:
DE is currently out of stock again. I wonder how many they sold in the last 48 hours.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
20 they do batches of 20
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
If you into download mode it'll tell you if it's a dev edition device.

A friend suggested that they may have not done the factory reset after unlocking the bootloader or adding software update and that's why mine booted right to home screens.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
Mine did same
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Mine arrived...box says DEVELOPER DEVICE in the front and it is etched under the battery
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Ok..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
Mine is in a brown truck driving around my small town in N. California.

I was a little nervous when tracking showed it leave TX and arrive in KY late last night. It was flying all over the US last night. Now it's in my town on the truck [emoji2]

I loves the sound of the UPS truck, like my cat loves the sound of the can opener[emoji2]
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Yeah, mine went from Texas to Kentucky and now it's in Florida, driving around in a brown truck.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Ok guess they were rushed out..i suggest a factory reset. See if it reads system update before it says erasing. If you want to
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
Mine from first round went from Dallas to Fort Worth....in a Brown Truck...lol :)

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Rooted / TWRP 2.8.1.1 trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Same here. Did you guys do a factory reset or not bother? I'm charging up to 100% before I get into twrp/root/backup
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] HotLZ:
Mine was stamped developer edition also on the box and under the battery. I first booted it into recovery and did a factory reset and all seems fine.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
I didnt bother just got two and root and a backup seems fine here
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ilpleasu:
I waited to long to purchase my Note 4, they are out of stock. What a bummer!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
I did because they left it incomplete. .
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Just take the battery out and see if it says Developer Device under the battery on the phone's casing. If it says that and came from Samsung then it is a developer device. There is no difference between the retail version and the developer version except the unlocked bootloader and you can't tell that by just booting the phone until after you've rooted or installed a custom recovery. Then, the "locked" pad lock will appear to be an "unlocked" pad lock after custom recovery has been installed and the splash screen will say "Custom".
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
you can tell by booting into download mode too. I'd look before trying to install twrp
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Yes, you can do it that way also.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] csstamatin:
They did update the software on these new dev ed devices. If u look I got build number KTU84P.N910VOYU1ANI1. Not the same as the ones on the retail version. If someone with a first round dev ed device wants to check and see what they are running.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Mine is a first rounder and has the same build number.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
===

First Round...mine is same...

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Rooted / TWRP 2.8.1.1 trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] csstamatin:
Ok cool. Just making sure. Didn't see it posted anywhere that there was a difference. Mines doing fine. No weird lag and nice benchmarks. Did boot to home, but reset and seems fine now. Glad to finally have it after a month. Hope everyone else has a good one!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
I know you already know but you have to go into download mode before flashing Twrp. So I'd check before flashing the Twrp img to be safe.

First and second rounder and the same.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
I've had TWRP and root since 0830, 30 October. I have one of the first DEs delivered. But thanks anyway.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Thanks for? I've been rooted and custom recovery for a few years now and i still am open to help and suggestions. I mentioned what i did because you mentioned flashing Twrp and root to see if the phone was a dev edition or not and looking for the unlocked padlock. I'm just saying you don't have to go that far too see if it's a dev edition.

I'm not suggesting you look. I know your rooted and such. I am a first rounder too. I'm on your side man.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
I didn't intend to come across as not being appreciative for the suggestion. I was just trying to acknowledge your help and show my appreciation. I too am always open to suggestions and information because I ain't no guru on these things. Again, thank you for your suggestion and help.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
everybody needs to relax
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
I'm totally relaxed here. Just watching the snow fall.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
I'm chill.. rough start to the morning but my lunch break with my girl fixed my day..it wasn't the food we ate either ;) lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Mine just arrived. The box does not say Developer Edition, but under the battery is stamped.

I went into setting, and Developer Options are open without the multiple clicking thing to get them to show, and USB debugging is already checked.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Same with mine. I'd do a factory reset.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Mine is not Etched under the battery and does not say developer edition on the box.

I thought it wasn't suppose to have **** like vz navigator on it and my verizon app. Mine has that ****.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
It's still a verizon branded device. The only difference is the bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Ok then. Developer edition tab was open, and i did a factory reset. I'm going to charge it up all the way. And have a friend help me root.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/development/how-to-custom-recovery-root-t2923340

Step by step instructions to install recovery and root
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Thanks Bob.