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[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Guavaman:
As a followup to my previous post where I mention the touchscreen input lag, here's a video I've recorded showing the input lag comparison between Nexus 7 and Asus ME572C. Turn the volume up to hear the click sound when I hit the keyboard keys.

Asus Memo Pad 7 ME572C vs Nexus 7 Touchscreen Lag Comparison:

youtu.be/w0YI4CVUS6s

EDIT: New conclusion - Sound lag is causing perceived delay. See this forum post: xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=57459217&postcount=48

I couldn't post a direct link because the forum software won't let me post links until I have at least 10 posts... So copy and paste that.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matt Perkins:
I've have the same 2 devices here and I'm not seeing it. Maybe I'm not as observant? Could Lollipop account for the difference?
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Guavaman:
Did you watch my YouTube video? Can you do the same tap test I did? I'd love to hear that I just got a lemon, then I could exchange it.

I don't think Lolipop would account for lack of touch screen delay in this case. Maybe if it were due to graphics rendering when scrolling a page, but this is just a key press. I did the same test on my old Samsung Galaxy S3 and there's zero lag just like the Nexus 7. S3 isn't running Lolipop.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matt Perkins:
You're right - there is a lag. I repeated your test and had my wife do it and we both agree that there is a slight lag.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Guavaman:
Thanks for taking the time to test it and confirm it for me! I appreciate it.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LtRoastabotch:
I don't have a nexus 7 to compare the touchscreens lag but I do notice that it's response time slower than my parents Samsung tab4 7inch. Either way it doesn't bother me enough to return it. I also notice that Google chrome doesn't always work great on it and Netflix sometimes crashes when I open it for the first time.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Plesk8:
Thanks for doing that video!

I also did your keyboard test and the delay on your Asus is identical to what I'm experiencing. GAHHHH WHY ASUS?? Such a nice device and why ruin it with a crappy user experience. I literally cannot type to my friend on hangouts, or type in generally unless I purposely slow wayy down.

What are you going to do? I think there's at least a chance that this lag is fixable with a software update, if not lollipop, then perhaps just some tweaks to the hardware/touchscreen interface or something may provide a fix. But how long until then? Will it ever come? Do I wait, and take the chance? Or do I return the tablet and get the N7?

I'm considering contacting ASUS support. I may send your video to them, is that cool?
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Guavaman:
Glad to help! I agree, same feeling here. I felt like I was having to wait for the device just typing a Skype message. It's crazy that little delay can make that much of a difference but it just does.

Well, Best Buy's return period is until January 15th for holiday returns, so I may hang onto it through Christmas just to hope something happens, but I really doubt it will, at least on Asus's part. I'm thinking rooting and booting a custom rom might give more options to fixing this, but there are so few people using this tablet I don't think that will happen either and I don't have the time or the experience to figure it all out from scratch. I bought these as a gift for my Mom and I'm pretty certain I'm going to give her the N7 even though it has a Skype video problem because the overall tablet experience on it is just far, far more high quality feeling.

Absolutely! I didn't even think of contacting Asus about it because I really can't remember the last time I contacted support at any company that actually had any results, but feel free to do so and let us know what you find out. Thanks!
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Plesk8:
Thanks for sharing your experience. I also had some whacky Google Chrome issues just tonight. I was just scrolling slowly through news.google.com, reading headlines, etc. I don't know what its called but as I scrolled, it would overlay one article with the text from somewhere on the page above it. This would happen in multiple places, so there would be several misplaced lines on the screen where half a picture and half the next from one article (maybe a up just a little or something) was stuck on top of half an article where I was.. Although, of course, when I went back to get a screenshot of it just now, it stopped happening.

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some kind of chrome or video issue happening here. Not sure if tablet related or chrome related. On my Asus me572c

http://i.imgur.com/tkIRzUW.jpg
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LtRoastabotch:
I've had mine do that. Sometimes it's worse and I can't make out what's on my screen at all. I'll screen shot it next time it happens. I only notice that happen in chrome.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tycoo:
I suggest to try to boot into safemode and the see if the problems dissapear. Hopefully it is perhaps an specific app related issue.

Next i would suggest is to reflash the V12.14.1.9 For TW SKU via sideload, or wait for the WW version update. Should be released soon too i guess.

Thats the statement by shakalaca, the rootzenfone developer:

https://translate.google.de/transla...grading-me572c-to-lollipop-v121419&edit-text=
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSimmonsSr:
So just to make sure I am clear.. First you downgraded to. 26 using the trick of loading it onto the SD card in the proper place? Did you root it then? And then you allowed OTA update to Lollipop? And were you still rooted?

Thanks!
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] separator2:
Thanks, but safe mode didn't helped.

I think there was some problem during firmware update - everytime when tablet is booting (before the desktop is displayed), dialog window "Android is upgrading" shows up, followed by "Unfortunately IndexService has stopped" messages. Maybe some files weren't copied during upgrade, or upgrade couldn't rewrite files affected by root??

Other issue: Applications loaded after last root (SuperSU, BusyBox, and also TripAdvisor, Facebook, Chrome...) are still installed and cannot be uninstalled, only "deactivated".

Now I can use tablet only in other user's account (not owner) and without functional Chrome.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSimmonsSr:
Have you tried wiping it fresh with the. 26 release on the SD card? Or maybe you haven't gotten to that point of desperation yet?

Appreciate you sharing your experiences here so we all know what the risk is if things don't go as planned. Good luck!
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Skymaxxx:
Hello, i come frome the rooted 31. Version too.

But no Problems like you.

Unfortunately, there is root lost :(

Download via OTA, install, reboot and run without any Problems!
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] separator2:
Downgrading do .26, .30, .31 doesn't work due to newer bootloader (as the creator of RootZenFone discribes) - I've tried to do it by recovery or by renaming UL-KOOR.... file, didn't help (new bootloader reads content of ZIP archive and doesn't allow to install downgrade).

Anyway I'm in some progress - I've discovered that "IndexService" and "ContextProvider" are in Settings / Applications and I've deactivated them :). Message with IndexService is gone, but message "Unfortunately ContextProvider stopped" persists, even it's deactivated.

I remember that some weeks ago I've tried to install Samusung Galaxy S4 browser and maybe IndexService and ContextProvider were their part? But how can I now remove it without root?
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Skymaxxx:
Some Screenshots :D
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pWEN:
Your issue sounds related to a bad app setting to me. I'd think something in the user files, but a factory reset would probably have cleared that up. And yeah, those files that can only be disabled now are probably /system apps, which are root-protected. What I suggest you try is:

Back up your files

Put .26 on your tablet - complete wipe! Start fresh! Don't just downgrade. Also don't connect to wifi right away, disable automatic updates in Play store app first. Put as little user information into your tablet as you can.

Root it, then remove whatever apps you don't want. Be careful here, of course.

When done, uninstall any of the tools you used to remove apps, and then UNroot

Do the OTA update. When it's done, remove ZenFone if it's still on there. Then you can set it up how you'd like.

I've found that after doing the OTA from rooted .31 to... (what are we calling this version? 5.0.1?) ...the new update, apps I had previously removed remained removed. Obviously, if you flashed 5.0.1 fresh with a complete wipe, it'd give you all of the apps and you'd be stuck with them. And I recommend putting as little user information and updates on your tablet to keep it as clean as possible, so there's less chance of something goofing up and giving you those errors again. See this thread for more information on rooting and debloating.

EDIT:

Never mind, apparently such a thing isn't possible.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mingkee:
Since I can directly read Trad Chinese, I learned it so far from there.

The way Asus is much more stricter on downgrade ROM and rooting. The system will check the ACTUAL ROM version before flashing.

Rooting may still be possible, but the creator doesn't have time to do yet.

If your machine rooted, it's better to put update on hold until later root solution is found.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scorpio16v:
The point is, that you can't anymore go down from lollipop to kk firmware, because of the new bootloader. The update stops with the message that a downgrade to kk isn't possible.

I've tested it to downgrade from recovery. No way !!

So, if you've modded the old firmware, the best would be to flash the current kk firmware and than do the OTA or Update.zip update to lollipop. Fact is you'll loose root in all cases. :(
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pWEN:
Oh! Well crap. I didn't realize that, and now wish I hadn't done the OTA. :( I hope a new compatible ZenFone releases soon.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blood_sam:
Still the same. Even with AudioWizard disabled.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSimmonsSr:
So, the bottom line is this..

-- At this moment, there is no way to retain root after the upgrade to 5.0.1?
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leo72793:
No. root goes away.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leo72793:
Is the MEM leak/batt drain issue in this ota?
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] separator2:
WW SOP available:

ME572C: dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/EeePAD/ME572C/UL-K007-WW-12.14.1.9-user.zip

ME572CL: dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/EeePAD/ME572CL/UL-K00R-WW-12.14.1.9-user.zip

:)

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After SOP update (I've loaded update file onto SD Card and confirmed update through Android's GUI) everything seems to be working fine (except lost root).

SOP update didn't deleted any user data, but has erased any "preinstalled" apps that has been loaded during root on .31 version (including Samsung S-Browser and its broken IndexService and ContextProvider).

Now I have no problems at all, but I've lost my user and app data during the experiments with factory reset that I've mentioned yesterday... My previous user data are stored by TitaniumBackup but I can't restore them without root :(
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tycoo:
Looks like we can have a rooted Android 5 soon. The solution could be to repack the firmware with root injected. Lets hope so.

regards
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scorpio16v:
That would be to easy, if you can just repack the fw with root inside. As long we have only a stock recovery, we can only flash digital signed software. To flash a custom recovery, it needs an unlocked bootloader.

So it needs these 2 steps solved at first. :(

btw

going back from TW to WW firmware works. All apps and settings are saved.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tycoo:
Yep, that would be the more difficult point i guess too. It is just my interpretation of the last work of the rootzenfone developer.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] portenaert:
Thank separator2 for the link.

+1 :)
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sdxben:
So no root for now.

Does anyone notice improved performance in the update? Any updates or bug fixes of any kind besides lollipop? Is it true its only using 32bit processes now on this 64bit processor, if so, shouldn't the tablet be slower now?

Thanks
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gentaz:
Still using .30 (heavily modified) and didn't noticed any batt drain, mem leak, or other issue so far : unless it gets rooted I can't see any reason to switch to the new update...

Did anyone noticed any improvement (perfs, batt, screen, radio) besides having a newer android version ? And is lollipop yet an improvement as well ?
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSimmonsSr:
Only thing that tempts me about the upgrade is the fix for the Bluetooth mouse problem. Has anyone seen a downside to letting the OTA be applied besides losing root? I don't use root too much anyway on this device..
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LtRoastabotch:
I haven't had problems with it I like it, but I've never rooted it. I like it better after the update. The only strange thing I've had happen was on my lock screen the numbers didn't fit on the clock once and the last number went under the first number. It only happened once.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSimmonsSr:
Hmm.. OTA would not apply for me. Looks like it could tell I'd rooted before..
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leo72793:
What have you modded?
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] portenaert:
download Here:

dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/EeePAD/ME572C/UL-K007-WW-12.14.1.9-user.zip
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSimmonsSr:
Sorry to be a dolt, but would you remind me again what to do with it after downloading it? Do I need to rename it and put it somewhere special or do I need to boot in to stock recovery and tell it to install from somewhere?

Thanks!
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gentaz:
Many things : see this thread xdaforums.com/memo-pad-7/general/me572c-root-debloat-t2992131 and this post xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=58390825&postcount=6 from tips & tricks thread.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pWEN:
32-bit processes on a 64-bit processor should be fine. I did notice that I had to download an extra x86 plugin for Perfect Viewer, my comic book reader. I don't expect many apps will need that, though.

I like the Lollipop aesthetic a lot better, overall, and the new settings layouts and such. The battery performance seems to be improved, but I haven't rigorously tested it.

You rename the zip to "MOFD_SDUPDATE.zip" and put it on your SD card in the tablet. Then turn the tablet off, hold down vol+up and power, and it should put you in the recovery. Use the volume keys to go up and down, and use power to select "SD download". That should be all there is to it.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Destructo78:
After the previous update, WIFI was disabled whenever the screen time out - regardless of power settings. So, tons of login issues with games, etc.

Just installed current build and that's been fixed. Will post more as it becomes available.

On a side note: Just download the latest firmware from Asus Support and drop the zip file in sdcard/emulated/0 and restart the device. The system manager will recognize the update in post and prompt you to install or ignore. Just hit install and let it do it's thing. This is simply another method for those of you asking about what to rename and where to place the file.....and how to boot recovery. Lol
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mingkee:
Finally, I took a plunge to update to 5.x. As I expected, root is gone, but Traditional Chinese looks normal (no mixup).

I can live without root for time. I use root to fix write to SD problem.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Funkin-Stoopid:
Hi

I know I'm a little out of the thread, but I just wanna know if someone got root onto ME581C
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eric2203:
I'm having tons of problems with Lollipop. The GMail app crashes, Feedly crashes (tried gReader - crashes too). It works at times, but eventually, the apps crash.

Is this a Lollipop thing, Asus thing or app thing? And is anyone experiencing this? It's a bit of a problem consider what I do on this tablet for the most part is use RSS feeds and read stuff.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSimmonsSr:
GReader Pro seems to be working fine for me.. Uninstall and reinstall maybe?
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eric2203:
What should I reinstall? I've tried re-installing the apps (at least, those that didn't come with the tablet). I could reset the tablet to default, I suppose, but that's drastic. Is that what you mean?
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSimmonsSr:
No, I was just suggesting a reinstall of the app..
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LtRoastabotch:
Mines working just fine. not a single crash since lollipop

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If you contact Asus they tell probably tell you to clear the app's cache or reinstall it and if that doesn't work factory reset it. I've never rooted mine and the problems I had before with app's crashing haven't happened any more. Netflix used to crash on my tablet.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] portenaert:
I tried SRSRoot v4.7 and Kingo root and Mobogenie on my ME572C - Lollipop .... without success :(
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leo72793:
This video shows setcpu and super SU ON LOLLIPOP ON THE ME572C. how

https://youtu.be/m5oPwo-l-Hs
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scorpio16v:
The answer is very simple.

Because I did the update from rooted kitkat to lollipop.

Root was lost, but all apps have survived the update. You can even download setcpu and a superuser app from playstore, but it needs the superuser binary in /system to get superuser access.

To do this, you need an exploit or an unlocked bootloader to mont /system r/w.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSimmonsSr:
My SuperSU icon is still in the app drawer as well.. It doesn't work anymore, of course, but it still shows up, just like in the video.. I wouldn't read too much into it. All it really means is that he was rooted before the upgrade.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eric2203:
I re-installed the whole OS as new. Feedly still creashes instantly. gReader now seems to behave.

Anyone else here use Feedly? It just won't run on Lollipop it seems.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tycoo:
In this blog it is described how to install a pre rooted system.img for the zenfone 2. Credits are going to recognized developer Shaka H. again, the same genius we have to thank for the RootZenfone*.apk.

In his git he recently added the support to build a similar image for the me572c too, but he didnt announce and push a compiled version onto his blog yet. Dont know why, perhaps it is just not final or he is dissappointed for an unknown he reason. Something like that he posted recently too.

Hopefully he will not stop supporting our device and keep sharing his achievements.

Edit: Just discovered that he is active on xda too and opened this thread for the zenfone 2 recently http://xdaforums.com/zenfone2/orig-development/rom-pre-root-img !

Lets hope he will visit our subforum soon too.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSimmonsSr:
I decided to try Feedly on my new Lollipopped ME572C, just to see if I have the same issue. I do not seem to have any problems.. It is working fine for me, from what I can tell.. FYI

UPDATE: Well, it looks like I have to take that back now. It worked great the first time I ran it after the install, but it is now crashing on startup as you mentioned. I stand corrected!
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eric2203:
OK, so it's not just me. Thanks for taking the time to try.

EDIT: Now Spotify crashes on launch with Lollipop. This is not turning into a pleasant experience...

EDIT 2: A re-install of Spotify seems to have helped.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] separator2:
Crashes

I report some random crashes on Lollipop firmware:

- GMail (crashes during reading e-mails without any error message)

- CSFD (crashes without any error message)

- Kodi for x86 (crashes with error message, but not very often)

...
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSimmonsSr:
Just confirmed with Shakalaca that he's working on an image for the K007. He says he hopes to have something working soon..
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pWEN:
You say an image, and his thread refers to a ZenPhone ROM... I'm a little confused as to how his rooting process actually works. When you use the ZenFone app, is it rewriting an img file? Or is he doing something else this time?
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gentaz:
This sounds nice, but I wonder about the locked bootloader/recovery : unsigned roms are out of question as long as it is not cracked or given by asus, aren't they ?
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pWEN:
Maybe he can start a Patreon or something to get enough money to pay someone off at Asus for an unlocked bootloader...
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 7gue8a:
Im in.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSimmonsSr:
Great question and I wish I understood enough to answer. Hopefully he will jump in here some time soon and elaborate? Maybe it is just a root method? Maybe a pre-rooted version of the image file? Not sure how that would work if a signature is required.. Will have to wait and see, I suppose..
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andredi:
Can't wait !

Hope it will come soon :)
[MENTION=1103144]MrSimmonsSr[/MENTION] Thanks for the infos
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eric2203:
I've experienced the Gmail crash. I've also now reproduced the gReader crash: I can make it happen by turning hardware acceleration on. It doesn't crash when that's off. The crash is similar to Feedly's: it just closes itself while reading an article.

Something fishy going on.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SyCoREAPER:
Not touching the new update with a 10 foot pole until we get root
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSimmonsSr:
Just got this unfortunate message from Shakalaca: Quick update, bad news .. it won't let me flash the system.img and cleared my system partition :(

We need to figure out another way downgrade or inject the root ..
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quechua1:
problems

I'm having crashes with many apps, include Gmail. Could we expect an update soon for fix that? It's annoying:mad:
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reddevil117:
+1
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mingkee:
A thinktank question:

Is it possible to root through fastboot?

You can enter by pressing volume up when turning it on.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ken Esq:
Same issues here, especially with GMail.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSimmonsSr:
Might be time for you guys to try Google Inbox. Working like a charm for me.. . ;)
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eric2203:
Won't solve issues with other apps. This has gotta be an ASUS problem...
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ken Esq:
Can't...it's not available for gapps customers yet.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bryon15:
My ota just downloaded android 5.0 lollipop. I haven't installed it yet. I assume installing it will remove the root access? If it does, is there a way to regain root afterwards?
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pWEN:
Yes, it will remove root. No, there currently is no way to regain root afterwards.
[MeMO Pad 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bryon15:
Thank you very much. Now I know not to install it right now.