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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Nothing about the MXP beat the note 4 and i mean nothing.

Display is meh on mxp, cant touch amoled note panels

camera is maybe the same as note 4

processor is a toss up again. felt like my note 4 and antutu was same on both phones

battery well in the mxp it wasnt good and i can swap my note 4 battery in seconds

spen well mxp doesnt have that lol nor multiwindow and other little features i enjoy

Nah there is no rootable N5 on verzion but MAN I WISH THERE WAS!! And thats why i have a note 4 developer edition. rooted and unlocked bl on verizon! it is awesome! If there was a note 5 developer edition for $799 i would buy in a heartbeat. That phone was a beast the short time i used it
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dominick_7:
Ah ok so whats talked about for the DE is just about kernels. SD? Not sure I understand what you mean by converse. You said the phone is converse?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
SD= Snapdragon

Converse= Just the opposite

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dominick_7:
Ah ok. Oh you mean inverse. K ty.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
Converse...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jbombs16:
Has anyone gotten android pay to work? I'm running the latest jasmine with now luck.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] FMXP:
Doesn't Android Pay refuse to work if you have root, same as Google Wallet?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] FAUguy:
I've tried it in JasmineROM 3.1 and MOROM 6.5 and haven't been able to get it to work past the credit card user agreement. I've made sure the latest version of Android Pay and Google Play Services were installed (from apk share), and used Root Cloak.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wy1d:
You should read about it in the Jasmine thread. I've gotten cards to add on Jasmine 2.1.1 with Rootcloak 1.4 but haven't been able to complete a transaction yet - only tried at one vending machine so far though. Said card cannot be used at this time.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] FAUguy:
It might be that Android Pay will not work with an unlocked bootloader.

http://imgur.com/FVhQPTz

http://xdaforums.com/zenfone2/general/android-pay-unlocked-bootloader-t3202190
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] xbdarkman:
Looking to buy a DE please PM me if you're selling with asking amount
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Curious to know the going rate for one now. I would like to have another if it was brand new on kitkat still lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
People have been asking about 750. Sheesh that's steep but demand. But 32gb tho

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
yeah for $750 i will buy a 64 gb note 5 and have the best of both lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
That's about how much I sold my Note 5 for. Was thinking about a trade but just couldn't see that price for a used note.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
The Verizon site says the 64 Gb Note 5 goes for $792. I bought my Note 4 DE for

$700 used though it had just came back from Samsung after being repaired after a bad flash. I got an extra battery plus an external charging dock. Then I just bought a 128 Gb SDcard with 80 Mb transfer speeds for $59.35 counting tax and shipping on a 1 day special at Amazon.

So I paid $759.35 for a Note 4 DE With 160 Gb storage and an extra battery w/charging dock. It's rooted, has the MoRom rom and a custom kernel. Because I was able to apply the LP upgrade myself instead of taking the LP OTA my phone has none of the battery, and lag problems that plague the retail phones.

I really think I got a much better deal for my phone than a Note 5 with a fixed battery, no Sd support, no infrared and a back that's easy to shatter plus being locked down by Verizon.

If a Note 4 Dev Ed comes along priced at $750 do whatever it takes to get it. It's a much better option.

Update: Somebody is talking about selling their Dev Ed here.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
Note 4 DE is a better option withouta price tag. But problem is the Note 5 is overpriced. And the demand is poor. Note 4 DE is not worth that price but it's value will stay high because of poor demand for the 5. Sigh. I agree that the 4 is the go but at the 700$ mark I'm just wondering when I can get a more current flagship and for less than 800.

Also the Note 5 lists at 792+TAX. 7% TAX was about $54 on top of $792.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Oh I agree that note 4 is a beast. I have 3 batteries, external battery charger, 128 gb sdcard. I am set with it but I used the note 5 for a week and was sold. (In addition to my note 4 DE) Note 5 is an animal wish it had more memory and was rootable. Couldn't imagine with root but hey if I always have my note 4 DE available I should be fine.

Also how is morom? I'm still on 4.4.4 & have morom downloaded to try after I go to lollipop. Last time I tried lollipop I wasn't impressed but I didn't try a rom. May have to give it a shot!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
I like MoRom. The available themed apps are just what I want. I haven't used any other color scheme besides black & blue since my first smart phone. I think it's debloated just right and though it took a while ViPER4Android works perfectly. Lack of V4A support would have been a deal breaker. The best thing is the developer is an awesome guy.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Awesome man! I love Viper4 Android i use on kitkat as well! Maybe one day I am free I can go to lollipop!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Anyone here use a galaxy gear s with their note 4 DE? Just got one. Only reason really while running I can just wear a watch vs lug the phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Co5m3t1cChamp:
Sm-n915V

i get that this is probably not the right place to post this but i am new to this xda site and i have been looking for a up to date forum on the root for the verizon galaxy note edge retail edition SM-N915V? can someone please point me in the right direction if you could PM me the link i would apprecitate that! and if you know at all if the Verizon Note 4 root will work on the Note Edge

again i am looking for the forum on the VERIZON Note Edge Thanks in advance!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
Here's a price gouge..I understand taking advantage of supply/demand, but if Mike L. is an xda member, he should be ashamed. And if an xda member buys it for that price, I guess they have more money than brains.

$1050 firm for a phablet and 128gb sd.

https://swappa.com/listing/UYM225/view

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidguy22:
recently Note 4 DE is going for $700 - $750, considering the extras he is including (Mint Phone, 128gb sd card, Zagg, Otterbox Defender and 2 extra official Samsung batteries)..I don't think it's price gouging, and it seems he is asking the price he paid for all that stuff..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
It looks like he added more accessories than when I first seen it this afternoon. Glad he did.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
That's insane and I have more accessories then any of the listings lol I have like 10 cases plus battery doors, 3 batteries, charger, multiple Samsung oem fast chargers, several new glass screen protectors lol I'm never selling this phone
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
You bragging or selling. Lol. Seriously though people are acting like this is the last of the smartphone. With the type of demand you'd think they made the Note 5 just to boost demand for 4DE. Wonder what kind of money Sammy would make with another limited edition production run!

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Bragging not selling at this time lol and if they run another batch I'm buying again lol the note 5 de would be perfect. Ahhh we can dream
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] thesavagetony:
If anyone is selling a note 4 DE, let me know. I'm in the market for one.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
Found one listed yesterday..https://swappa.com/listing/UYM225/view

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] thesavagetony:
Yeah, I saw that one (and I think the same phone on eBay as well since its priced the same and was put up at the same time) but I really can't justify spending $1000+ just for root features. I have a normal Verizon note 4 right now, and id pay 500 to 600 for the DE, but 1000 is too rich for my blood.

I was in contact with someone on xda about buying his DE, but he's gone dark. =(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
500-600 for a DE better not tell anyone you found it til after you buy it. And expect it to be in crap shape. At this point 700+ is just to be expected, hated but expected.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Agreed I'd buy another mint one at $500-600 without even thinking about it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] plainbum:
This pricing makes me want root on regular Note 4's even more.

Note 3s are rootable right?

What are the disadvantages between a Note 3 and a Note 4?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bbeelzebub:
There was a used one on Swappa recently for 800 or 900 recently. I noticed it while trying to unload my regular one on there. (Which are now going for as low as 300 which is annoying.)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] FAUguy:
I had been using a rooted Note 3 for the past 2 years before I got the Note 4 DE last month. Rooting a Note 3 can easily be done.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] plainbum:
Thanks for your reply. How would you describe the differences between the two phones?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Reilly1812:
Better read up on the Note 3. They are crying for root as well. I stayed on 4.3 to not even chance it. I would get the Note 4 if ever perm rootable but we know that won't happen. They can keep the Note 5 - no thanks.

Sorry. Short answer - still love the Note 3.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
Me I'm crying because I still have a note 2...with root thanks to suckitvzw. But still a note 2

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
Before I got my Note 4 DE, I used a Verizon Note 3 that is still rooted and ROMmed using Safestrap. I've been loathe to sell it because I was afraid the new owner wouldn't understand Safestrap and end up bricking it and blaming me. I don't need that drama! Is there a market for this device as-is?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] FAUguy:
That's the way my Note 3 has been for the past two years using JasmineROM 3.1. I still have it as a back up. But you could probably sell it on Swappa as-is and list that it is rooted and with a custom ROM installed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Note 4 wont ever get root. Note 3 had safestrap on some firmwares but not as good of course as real root. That is why i owned a note 3 developer edition and then my current driver, my note 4 developer edition. Note 4 is a far cry from the note 3 lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Mine may be going up on the ole swappa, or here direct for sale. Looking to sell the phone pending i can get an early upgrade with 2 cases (ottor box commuter, and caseology) charger box and screen protector (glass invisishield) for 750. Phone is in excellent condition. Would sell it in a bundle with a gently excellent condition galaxy gear s for 900 shipped. Ill know more about it hopefully tomorrow. if anyone is interested private message me and ill keep an order and offer it to the people who responded in order..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
This device also have MHL ?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mjlewis0102:
Just sold mine. Now I'm sad :(:(:(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
What did you replace it with and why are you sad?

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
MHL
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mjlewis0102:
I am now using my old note 3. I am sad because I miss my Note 4. sold it for $1000
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wy1d:
I was offered 1k a couple weeks ago and turned it down. Now my wife dropped her S5 out of the Jeep and it got destroyed in the road and I had to buy her an S6 so I'm considering selling the Note 4 DE again but I wouldn't take less than 1k probably (because I don't really want to sell it!)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mjlewis0102:
Yeah hold on to it while you can. I miss my note. I had several offers for my phone so you probably can get more than $1000.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
Wow. $1000 is a lot. From what I've seen though, there's nothing on the market that can replace it. If I didn't enjoy mine so much I'd consider selling it for that price.

The word is, some time in early October it will get Android 5.1. Then it's in line for Android M too. The future for owners of the Note 4 Dev Ed looks pretty bright to me. And the thing is, I've never had the problems the Ret Ed owners complain of. I'm going to hang on to mine.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
rickray9 just threw his DE up for $1100

https://swappa.com/listing/HLI447/view

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] FMXP:
Man the price inflation on N4DE is getting insane.

Samsung should throw more N4DEs up for sale on their website lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
That's exactly what I said. Sure it would be a marketing disaster as if the Note 5 was selling anyway. But they could do a limited edition rerelease or something to justify the 900$ price.

Personally I don't see why he didn't just put it on swappa for a cool $500k. :eyeroll: it's a great phone but it's not worth that price. Somebody will value it that much though. Maybe I should buy it to list at $2k.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
It's getting crazy that's for sure. I have my 64 gb note 5 that will be delivered tomorrow. Paid $700. I could potentially sell my note 4 de and have a brand new note 5 64 gb and still have $300+ in profit lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
Barely sold my Note 5 for a profit couple weeks ago. No way you could do that now. Crazy! Any word of Twiz Marshmallow?

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
what you mean? I would sell the note 4 de for $1000 like the last sold one.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] -Alan:
I am looking to get rid of my note 4 DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
No I mean no way you could sell a note 5 for close to msrp today only a few weeks later. Note 5 value plunging and 4 DE is astronomical.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Oh well yeah lol note 4 de can't go any higher can it??
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
Yes it will be the cause of the next tech bubble bust and social-economic recession! Subprime loans to pay for your swappa purchase.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rickyray9:
you answered your own question there ;)

I actually just bumped it to $1200, because it's what I value my phone at, and the free-market capitalist in me says it's the right thing to do ;) The emotional part of me is somewhat hoping nobody buys it though
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Not gonna lie swappas prices are out of whack. Way high imo. At least on note 5s. You can get then cheaper on eBay by a wide margin
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] FMXP:
Well Swappa costs more because you're getting their guarantee that if something goes wrong they'll help make it right.

On eBay you're more likely to get scammed than buy a device.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] FAUguy:
Damn, I got mine off Swappa about 6 weeks ago for $650. Good for the price, but I wouldn't of paid more than $750 for it.

I'm interested to see the new LG V10 as the specs that came out tonight are pretty good. Hopefully it is rootable.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
f.m.c. smh that what they call it where your from?...In my old neighborhood:

The pimp in you should put your emo aside to get this money. When's the last time anyone bought a phone as an investable appreciating asset? Pimp being said though, I hope you get your money just not from me.

When you get your first low ball offer though, I need you to turn it down for being too low, then raise the asking price again. That's the kinda entertainment money can't buy!

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
+1 The V10 looks so far to be the only phone I'd consider after the N4 DE, as it has removable battery and removable storage. 5 Samsung phones in a row, this could be my last.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
Do the quality of LG phones even compare to Samsung, Motorola..etc..?

I guess I've always considered them to be cheaper than HTC

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
i bought one from a reputable seller with a 14 day return period and you have paypal and ebay too to back you up
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] FAUguy:
Confirmed today the V10 will be out for Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile.

If I were to leave the Note 4 DE, it would probably be for the V10 since it has the removable battery and I can transfer over the 200GB microSD card. Too bad no stylus.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
Wonder about the bootloader and root.....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] plainbum:
The 6P is looking like the phone to get now.

I carry a small external battery with me. And make more regular backups but with 128 gigabyte storage, that might take some time to fill up . I'm liking the 4k video camera and having a 2 year warranty would be nice too buying it with my American Express card.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
I can live without an external storage card, but, the non-removable battery not only means you'd sometimes want to carry an external one, but far more importantly, once the Lithium battery no longer holds a charge, and that happens to all Lithium batteries, you are screwed. More and more devices are doing what Apple has been doing for years on some of their devices, not just making the batteries sealed in, but going so far as to glue the device sealed, so any attempts to replace the battery by other than factory trained service people will likely result in cosmetic damage at the least, or possibly physical damage. I want to be able to pop out the battery and pop a new one back in, wham-bam-reboot-maam and in under a minute be back up with 100% charge. Removable batteries may be going the way of the dodo but as long as someone's making phones with removable batteries, that's where my money will be going.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
Stylus, great camera root. My list seems so achievable but costs $2k now smh

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
I would sell mine but I can't find anything to beat it!!! :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
Doesn't that suck!!..you have a chance to make a huge profit, yet there's nothing better than what you own.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rickyray9:
Removed mine from Swappa, but I threw it up on eBay to let the market decide.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/291579199468?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
it will go for less on eBay then swappa
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidguy22:
if it's sold for $1200 - you'll end up paying close to $200 as fee to ebay & paypal, you'll do better at Swappa even at $1100..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rickyray9:
Usually that's true, but they have a $5 fixed fee deal going on for selling phones for the next week
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
Yep

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Yup I got my note 5 off there for a decent deal
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] plainbum:
It wasn't selling on swappa for even $1100. I'll guess he put it on eBay cause of it's larger audience.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Where is the note 5 de?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] plainbum:
Does your ebay phone have a reserve?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rickyray9:
Nope!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Hmm I may bid on
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
So your willing to possibly sell it for $450 if 1 bid comes in at the last minute? Why wouldn't you have just lowered the price on swappa to $750 and had it sold?

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
Almost guaranteed not to happen. There will be snipers with bids hundreds higher fighting it out in the last 2 minutes of the auction, that's a safe bet.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidguy22:
most likely it'll be sold for more than $750 on ebay..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
I promise it will

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tek818:
Just posted mine:

https://swappa.com/listing/JAG485/view
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
Grab it while you can $535 Mint DEhttps://swappa.com/listing/PHC587/view

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] cedricl:
I know you could have easily gotten a few hundred more, maybe 700-750 with no problem. But I am happy to see the market is adjusting and maybe we can get away from these $1,000 prices. I would have bought yours to have a second one around as a backup. I was a few minutes to late from the time it did sell.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
I think the seller couldn't find another DE listed on Swappa, so he looked at the going rate on eBay..most likely matched rickyray's eBay listing.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcounts:
Mine is available

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
wow i would have bought to flip lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] FMXP:
What if the guy who bought it is intending to flip it?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
Gawwwwd I blinked.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
Here's a new listing, $700 https://swappa.com/listing/MVH030/view
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bagery77:
Didn't one of these just go for 1000 bucks on eBay Sunday at the last minute?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
yeah $1010 i think
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
Nice sale not quite what he thought but still good

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[MENTION=1321178]tek818[/MENTION] will you take $700 for just the phone?

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bagery77:
Considering how high these have gone for in the past few days, $535-$700 is quite generous. Realistic but generous of these owners to take the hit.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Yeah agreed. I can't find anything to replace mine lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidguy22:
wondering which phone they are going to after selling N4 DE or may be they are ditching VZW and going to TMo..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
They are taking the money and going on a mini vacation...No cell service there :p

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Mines still up for grabs.... 750 or 850 with a galaxy gear S... pm if interested...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcounts:
You should probably wait for hsbadr to release 6.0, flash it, run it, before you sell. You'll feel left out if you don't get to run M on your DE......you'll be looking for your third one! Hahaha.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Hahaha. I know but my father in law just got put in hospice and we may be forced to switch. Any clue when M is coming out?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcounts:
Sorry to hear that. Not sure when M will come but hsbadr said he would release ASAP. I can't wait...not a TW fan, although MoRom is amazing. Good luck with your father in law.

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