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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
Perhaps this is a dumb question and forgive me if it is, but why do we need another version of TWRP? I've made a ton of backups, and restored a number of times, as I've been experimenting with inverted apps (none of which worked) and Xposed.

Please know that I'm not trying to be difficult - I'm truly seeking to understand the benefits of having a new TWRP specifically made for our device.

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
One thing I've noticed with the tmo version we've been using so far, is that under settings, you can change time zone but you can't actually set the date or time. I know this is available in other versions of TWRP, not sure why it's not in this one (at least I couldn't find it, maybe I'm wrong?)

My phone was off by one hour in that screen, making my backups timestamped off by an hour. I compensated for this by choosing the next time zone over. A hack, but it works. Maybe a VZW-specific one will fix the time/date issue? Maybe hardware/carrier specific issue?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
Yes, I noticed that, too, and I fixed it in the same way -- but I don't really see that as much of a flaw (particularly coming from the Safestrap TWRP recovery for the retail version of the Note 3, for which the time and date was off by hours/decades and couldn't be changed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
I don't know, maybe it's just me but I prefer a TWRP for our device specifically... rather than tweak and make another device's version work. I truly hope that we can get a VZW DE TWRP done soon... and maybe Scott (sbreen) will port Hyperdrive to the Note 4 soon and all will be well in DE Land :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Seems kind of weird to me that a developer device is shipped unrooted. Wouldn't a developer want root?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wtherrell:
Not weird at all. Normal. Always Odin on a recovery Then flash Chainfire's SU update zip and you are ready to go.

Devs understand this as do we grateful underlings.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
Root apks are not Google apks. They are created by developers. No android phone has ever shipped with these installed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
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There could be problems when flashing ROMS if not made with asserts, etc from stock recovery....attached is a quote from big biff in the Tmo thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=56251817

One thing about the version I am testing...Time Zones act correctly
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ebrinkis:
I think it is for liability / agreement issues with Google / Android. Shipped stock, easy to unlock, but YOU are the one doing it, not Samsung.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urmcgwy:
Thanks for testing! Any links for us to play ourselves or are you still working out some bugs?

Sent from my unlocked and rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 4 DE!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urmcgwy:
Also, does anybody know why Gmail is using so much battery? I thought it might be the system version so I uninstalled it and installed the Market version, but it is still doing it. Tried different combinations of keeping /deleting bloatware, deleting Google app caches, etc, can't seem to figure it out. I do like using the Gmail app (tried Inbox... Don't really like it) so I would rather keep it. Any help would be appreciated!

Sent from my unlocked and rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 4 DE via the XDA app!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Poloasis:
I use Gmail since I got the VX Note 4 and no, this has not happened to me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urmcgwy:
Yeah I don't get it... I'm pretty sure it's something I'm doing, since the Gmail battery drain happened on my stock Note 4 too (before I returned it for the DE!).

Sent from my unlocked and rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 4 DE!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wtherrell:
Check to see if you have immediate push activated. Also what is sync interval you have set? You may want a longer time between sync
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Gmail is a "push" service. There is no "interval sync" setting that I am aware of.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Here she is.

Dakota. 7lbs5oz 20.5"long. Best feeling in the world is being promoted to Dad
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urmcgwy:
Congrats!

Sent from my unlocked and rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 4 DE!

---------- Post added at 10:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:25 PM ----------

Yeah its set to push (and I really need to keep it that way) :-/

Just reinstalled it to see if that will do anything. It is set to sync just my inbox and sent mail (had other folders in there before), so maybe that will help. Just weird that it does this on two different Note 4's... Makes it more likely something I'm doing on my Gmail than the phone

Sent from my unlocked and rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 4 DE!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wtherrell:
Oh, sorry. Tasker.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
I'm really happy with the battery life on the Note 4. It's so much better than the LG G3. However, has anyone noticed that their device is a bit laggy at times while flipping through windows and drawers such as the app drawer or an extra long delay between the menu button and your list of open apps? Then a lag when closing it out? I feel like it might be the bloatware so if anyone formatted and rooted, did you notice this issue?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urmcgwy:
Don't know if this will help (probably won't), but I decided to download and install the newest version of Gmail (it let's you sync other email services!). Here's the source of you want to try it out too: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-support-material-design-landed-apk-download/

Sent from my unlocked and rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 4 DE!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
She's a doll. Congratulations again.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
After today's EST change, I was able to set my timezone back properly and the time in TWRP is now correct, so looks like maybe it's a DST bug.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urmcgwy:
So not sure what is going on, but it makes me sad :confused:

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
um gmail that is what is going on
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urmcgwy:
Haha yeah... Tried all kinds of things (reinstalling as a user app, deleting cache, changing sync days, etc) and I really don't want to turn off sync. I think I'm going to try just using Inbox for now and see if it does the same...

Sent from my unlocked and rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 4 DE!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] BizzLeonDaCouch:
clear cache again for Gmail app in Application Manager, then REBOOT. This should fix it, but give it a day of use to see it go back to normal
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urmcgwy:
Thanks I'll give it a try!

Sent from my unlocked and rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 4 DE!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urmcgwy:
Yay tethering! In case anyone is interested, the X Tether Xposed module seems to work on my phone! I can use the default button in the notification panel, which is nice (no subscription pop up and full speed internet)

Sent from my unlocked and rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 4 DE!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
The Xposed Moto Tether module works also.

Sent from my Verizon Note 4 Developer Edition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Can't decide about getting the DE edition or not. I am not going to run different roms but I would like to have root so I can delete bloatware etc. If I buy the DE from Sammy I will have to pay the sales tax but if I buy the non-DE version I can drive to new hampshire and buy for $699 from VZ as there is no sales tax in NH. I live in Mass. Will the methods to root the DE work on the regular version? It is important that I can run FoxFi to get a wifi hotspot.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urmcgwy:
There is no root right now for the retail version but people are working on it. You can run FoxFi as a WiFi hotspot on a nonrooted phone (I did it when I had a retail phone... You can search the forums for more confirmation). I guess it depends on if root is worth $50 or not? Hope that helps!

Sent from my unlocked and rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 4 DE!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
[ trltevzw Note 4 Developer Edition TWRP Test Version 2.8.1.1 ]

I am now testing trltevzw Note 4 Developer Edition TWRP Test Version v2.8.1.1 < the first version I tested was trltevzw Note 4 Developer Edition TWRP Test Version 2.8.1.0 < I received a PM from bigbiff ....he should be releasing soon.. :)

UPDATE: Released...link below

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=56467870
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] griffis:
See also post 349… call recording and tethering works

Sent from my Dev Note 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jam2315:
Still waiting for my email saying it's back in stock. If i don't get an email before the nexus 6 comes out I might just go with the nexus 6. :rolleyes:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Good luck which ever way you decide to go, but I heard on a Prod cast Saturday that even though they are accepting pre-orders on Google Play, the shipping dates for the pre-orders is like 3 to 4 weeks. That means the in store availability might even be longer. I would bet that Samsung will have the Developer Edition in stock long before that. I recommend checking that site a couple times a day instead of waiting for their email. I did that with the S5 Developer Edition, ordered the phone and received it 2 days before my "in stock" email got to me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jam2315:
Yea I've been checking off and on bc I'd rather have the note 4. Maybe ill get lucky here pretty soon :thumbup:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
OMG am I mad at Samsung

I am very much ready to stop buying Samsung... only they already have my money for a Note 4 Developer Device. EXCEPT:

I just called and in the interim with their incessant bean-dippin' around my case, the Note 4 DEs are suddenly OUT OF STOCK! GRRRRR

So here I sit with a boxed-up Note 3 DE that they sent me, presumably on PURPOSE since the item number on the order was deliberately changed to SM-N900V instead of SM-N910V (sorry Sammy, I ain't buying a "typo" excuse as the 1 and 0 are quite a distance from each other on the keyboard and I can't imagine a keypad device operator making such an error and not double-checking it). Small consolation that Sammy DID promise a pre-paid return label for this year-old device and a courtesy overnight shipment of the Note 4 DE... IF it ever comes back in stock!

:mad: (<---- this does not adequately convey how furious I really am right now)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Castanoff:
I have 2 dev editions on back order... Called Samsung and they said they should have them back in stock by the end of next week if not sooner.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Boss428man:
I just wanted to clarify because many pages back people said there was only a 30 warranty. This is completely false. there is a 30 day return policy and a 1 year warranty. This is better then Verizon's 15 day.. I just got off the phone with Samsung because my box was dropped and just wanted to relay the information. Luckily my Note 4 looks fine.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
Not quite but you're correct about some previous false informstion. The booklet that came with your phone states a 30 day warranty and 14 day return policy. However, this phone is fully coverall through the Verizon insurance and extended warranty programs as those cover any device to happen to have been using on the line at the time of incident. I have read the terms and conditions of the extended warranty and asurion insurance programs and while there is no caveat in the warranty program, you must have made one phone call through the device for asurion to cover it.

Now if you're worried like me about getting not getting a dev edition, rest assured that asurion will let you buy a comparable model at full cost and they will reimburse you minus the deductible.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
Talk to Samsung as soon as they opened this morning (8:00am central time) and was told the dev edition will be back in stock next week so fingers crossed and reg note 4 on eBay. Can't wait to be back on dev side rocking my s4 till then.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Mibuix0r:
Still no movement on my package, just says packing label shipped/billed on 10/30 Wah
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] LagunaTechie:
Wait wait wait, how do you order the s5 Dev edition ahead of time? I thought you couldn't order until you got the "in stock" email? Please explain as I want this Dev edition as soon as possible! (I just placed a back-order request a few hours ago).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
I would call them. Mine hasn't changed since last tuesday. Called up both ups and samsung, they have no idea where my package is. I'm still waiting. There Is and investigation going on through both ups and samsung. Samsung says since a tracking number was generated that ups lost it. UPS says only a shipping label was created and that they never received the package from samsung.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] plainbum:
What do I have to gain by getting this instead of a regular Note4 and rooting it like we do with most non-DE phones?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Guaranteed root access and an unlocked boot loader. Each new Samsung device on VZW gets harder and harder to crack...who knows how long the N4 will take.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Boss428man:
Hate to be a jerk but I have to say this keeps getting asked and is on every other page in both of the Developer Edition forums!!!!!!!!!!! Its an unlocked version of the Note 4. Thats what you get everything else you have to do. That being said there is no root on the regular and there may or may not be. So lack of risk is the best gain I'd guess but its up to you to decided., Read around and you will find out more information.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
You have misunderstood what I said. Or, maybe I wasn't clear. I was simply suggesting that he check the website a couple of times a day instead of waiting for the in stock email. My point is the website will be updated to "in stock" and allow orders to be placed before you get the "in stock " email. They update the site much faster than they generate the "in stock" email from my past experience.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] plainbum:
How many popular phones have not been rootable? What are the odds this won't be?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
No one knows what the odds are. But the facts speak for themselves. In the case of Verizon phones, all models are taking longer and longer for developers/hackers to find an exploit that gains root. It took 3 months for the S5 and even longer (or not at all) for most of the Motorola models. The only models that seem to be less difficult to root are the HTC models. And as soon as someone finds an exploit Verizon releases an update that fixes it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
She's a cutie! I'm sure you've heard enjoy her while she's young because it goes by fast! Yes, it's the best feeling to be a dad. Congrats!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Mibuix0r:
Do you think they are just giving us the run around because they don't actually have them in stock or what? I just talked to support and they seem to just be jerking me around. :mad:

EDIT: Called instead of doing the online support and they launched an investigation on mine as well. It looks like I ordered Tuesday too in the afternoon.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] LagunaTechie:
I see. Thank you.

:D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
i really have no idea on what they are doing. I ordered mine on the 27 got an email from samsung with a tracking number saying it was shipped on the 28th. It was in stock when i ordered. They are trying to get me to cancel my order and refund me and to re order when it comes back in. Which is a no cause when i ordered it was $662...now its 699. I think that is why they may be doing this. I started an investigation with ups as well.

They are definatly giving me a run around though.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] plainbum:
Will this DE be available elsewhere like Amazon, Best Buy or even VZW.com? I would like to use my $200 upgrade subsidy.

Thanks for all your great answers!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Mibuix0r:
Well I ordered when it was $699 so wtf.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidstyle:
Not likely...all DE devices came directly from Samsung in the past.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
I doubt it. They (Verizon, Best Buy, Amazon etc.) have never offered a Developer Edition of a Samsung device before. I don't think that will change. Sorry man.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Polishzx:
Loving my Dev Edition note 4. Got in using the cached page at the lower price, so I'm a happy camper. :cowboy:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DavidMT909:
Does anyone know if UPS Ground ships to a PO Box? I have a big sliding out business sized one. Sometimes I have things delivered to my PO Box, and sometimes they leave a note in it saying I have a delivery I need to sign for. I just don't want to finally be able to order the Dev Edition, have it take a couple of days and then get a notice they don't deliver to PO Boxes and go to reorder and they are out again. It says the following below on the site. It doesn't say no PO Boxes until you pay for next day delivery. Just waiting for the in stock and don't want to miss my chance... (I work graveyard, so sleeping during the day, I can't be up all day waiting for a delivery and miss it.)

Orders less than $49.99 will be shipped via UPS within 1 business day for $3.95.

Please allow up to 5 business days to receive your package(s).

Orders over $49.99 will be shipped UPS Ground within 1 business day FREE.

Please allow up to 5 business days to receive your package(s).

Next Business Day Delivery service is available for $19.95

Orders placed before 4pm Central Time M-F will be shipped for Next Day PM Delivery via UPS. (Sorry, Not available for PO Box addresses or Orders to AK, HI, PR, VI).

(Note: Orders placed after 4pm Central Time M-F will ship out the following business day)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
Just have them drop it off at the nearest network location. You'd be surprised, they've expand their network to small businesses as a way to increase the ease of getting your package if you arent home.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hacksaw999:
I'm pretty sure they don't. They definitely didn't a few years ago and I haven't heard of any change on that front.

Considering the post office is in the business of shipping I doubt they are in a hurry to provide another shipping company with access to their facilities.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ebrinkis:
Lollipop

Chainfire rooted a Lollipop powered Nexus 9 successfully and Samsung confirms plans to offer Lollipop upgrades to Note 4 users (presumptively not dev edition though). I think that we Dev Ed owners should be able to get a working Lollipop very soon after the updates are released. Your thoughts?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
The ease of which custom recovery and root was obtained might be a good omen for how quickly the developer community can take an update to Lollipop and make it safe for Dev owners to ODIN/flash. Well see.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mjlewis0102:
BackOrder?

OK I sold my retail note 4 so I could have the cash ready to get the DE. Anyone have any news to when it will be back in stock. Or at least have a link to support to complain about the delay (I remember everyone participating on sending a complaint about the Note 3 DE). I appreciate and help. Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] solson20:
Long story short, I've called Samsung everyday since I've placed my order, inquiring about my tracking number. I've been told that it's being shipped out that day multiple times. Finally yesterday, the gentleman said he was going down to the warehouse personally put the order through. He came back and told me it's out of stock. (I've been speaking with the same rep every time) Here is the email he sent me..

"Yes, my manager informed me that we should be back in stock today or tomorrow. As soon as we receive the new Note 4’s I will give you a call and we will get that shipped out to you next business day. We will get that to you before the weekends and I’ll do whatever it takes for that to happen.

I really am sorry for this delay on your order. I really don’t understand what went wrong. But I’ll keep you updated on this situation."

I sensed that he actually felt bad in regards to the situation. I'll keep you updated if I hear back from him today.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Mibuix0r:
What number are you calling? They keep saying they are launching an investigation but UPS says they haven't.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] csstamatin:
I agree. They have been giving me the run around for days. It was supposed to be delivered on the 4th, but still says label created but not picked up by ups. I'm pretty sure they didn't have enough to ship all of them so they are keeping us waiting till they get more. Total bull, but there doesn't seem there is anything we can do.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] solson20:
I just got shipping confirmation and tracking number. The number i was calling is 1 800 757 0280 and option 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
For anyone who is rooted and using Wanam Xposed, and have found that S Health is not working: the fix is to go into Wanam Xposed>Security Hacks and check the box next to Disable Secure storage.

Also, if you're like me and you miss being able to turn on the flashlight using the volume up button when the screen is off, please note that I was unable to use the Wanam Xposed setting under Lockscreen (Hidden flashlight settings) -- I'd press it and it wouldn't open or otherwise do anything. However, the Xposed Torch module does work (you can set it for long-press volume up or long-press Home button (or both)).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mjlewis0102:
Ok I just got off the phone with Samsung. The lady told me that she doesn't know the exact date, but keep checking back. They are expecting a shipment anytime now. I'm tempted to call back to see if that is a standard answer.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Who here is having problems with samsung/ups with getting their note on time? I see a few of us.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] LagunaTechie:
I definitely don't want to spend 20 bucks on overnight shipping if Samsung cannot figure out this whole situation...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] csstamatin:
No and I'm gonna try to make them give me free overnight tomorrow when I call. But yes I'm one of those who is having trouble. I've had a tracking number for almost 2 weeks and it hasn't moved or gotten picked up from Samsung yet. They definitely are out of stock and just haven't shipped cause they don't have them. If dude just got shipping info we might be lucky and get this solved soon.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] solson20:
Was just told that they still don't have them and that it's been a glitch in the system. Cancelled my order and am going to stick with the non dev version for now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Uvfriend:
I am having trouble too. But ups tracking is now saying they are investing lost package...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
They are upgrading my delivery to overnight for free. Im not cancelling my order cause i paid 662. If i cancel and re order they may want to charge the 700. They just keep telling me that they have no clue where my package is. When i ordered it showed in stock.