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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
I just looked at my DE box from Batch number 2, 11/24/14 It didn't have a manual. They probably ran out, or didn't print developer manuals. The blue tape was not cut, but they might be checking them after the problems with batch number 2: Missing Developer Labels, Phone not reset after flashed to DE, phone not flashed to DE...

My other DE's; Note 3, and S5, both have Product Safety & Warranty Info booklets. But I voided all my DE phone's warranties within the 1st 30 minutes :)

Attached is a snip of the DE 14 day warranty, and 30 day standard Warranty

Link: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/s...d_mdl_cd=SM-N910VMKEVZW&prd_mdl_name=SM-N910V

Early Return and Refund Process

You have the right to return Products delivered to you through the Developer Edition Program, without cause, for a period of fourteen (14) days from the date of delivery to you. If you exercise your right of return, you must notify Samsung and return the Products, post-marked within the 14-day period, at your own cost. To initiate a return, please contact 1-800-757-0280 to obtain a return authorization. Once the Products are received, you may be entitled to a refund as follows:

If the seal on the box for the Products is intact, you will be eligible for a full refund of the purchase price plus applicable taxes.

If the seal on the box is not intact, a restocking fee of 15% may be deducted if the Products have no material damage and are not missing components or accessories included in the original shipment box. Material damage includes unlocking of the bootloader and/or software alteration, unless the software alterations can be readily reversed by Samsung.

For units that have been damaged after delivery to you by Samsung for which repair is possible, you may be charged an additional restocking fee of either 25% or 50% of the original purchase price, based on the severity of damage and within the discretion of Samsung.

If we determine that the Products have been damaged beyond repair, we may return them to you without issuing a refund. If you have a question about our restocking fees, please feel free to contact us with your questions. In the event you believe your Products are malfunctioning and you are ineligible under the fourteen (14) day return outlined above, you may be covered by the Samsung Limited Warranty, set forth below.

STANDARD LIMITED WARRANTY

What is covered and for how long?

The warranty period commences upon the date of purchase by the first consumer purchaser and continuing for the following specified period of time after that date:

Device 30 Days or until the device has been altered by the installation of custom operating system software or other alterations to factory settings by the user, whichever period is shorter.

Battery(ies)*

(Including Internal Batteries)

1 Year

Other Accessories*	1 Year

Owners Manual:

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/SM-N910VMKEVZW
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
What were problems with phones?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
Some of the problems with batch number 2: Missing Developer Labels on phone and box, Phone not reset after flashed to DE, phone not flashed to DE...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
Reason I asked I believe I was second batch I did get manual you could see label on box was tampered with if you looked real close. It was however good other than that. I bought mine the day they were available.Still working good as new so no harm no fowl I doubt Verizon will ever recognize our phones we didn't buy the from them.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
All of mine had a DE label placed over the original Retail label, as far as I know that's how all of them come. Blue tape with clear tape carefully placed over it, on all three models I have.

I am very happy with mine too. Hope the steady flow of DE's will bring more devs, and roms ;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
I believe your right wouldn't think they would make different phones just need a way to keep them separate. Yes hope we get a bit more development also not that he is not good but even one more ROM would be great. I have the Nexus 6 and there care a few to choose from.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
Yes the phone info only shows after you Dial that code sorry I can't be of more assistants .
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shawnten:
so how do the people with the dev edition update to the new lollipop update
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
When and if it ever gets here the devs will figure it out don't download anything without checking first IR youvwill end up with a retail version.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Normally what happens is the developer community will "capture" the OTA update to Lollipop when released by the carrier. They will then provide a ROM safe to flash in TWRP that won't lock the bootloader. Or, they will provide "stock" system, modem, recovery, kernel files that can be ODIN or flashed in TWRP that will not lock the bootloader.

The key here is a DE owner should not flash or ODIN anything unless it specifically says it is safe for Developer Edition Note 4s (in this case).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] neva4self:
Yeah thanks. It was never really about physically owning a manual. I was pretty much just checking with you guys because since the seals where cut, for a sec I said to myself "I know they didn't just send me a refurb and hit me for full price." Even though if that's what they were really doing, the average Joe wouldn't know anyway. The fact that they only honor a 14 day warranty for the DE instead of the standard 30 day is a point that I think can't be overstated. I pretty sure a lot of people are not paying attention to that little detail.

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Some people were complaining of overheating while charging. Enough so that they replaced them under warranty.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] neva4self:
I just read in the specs section for the Note 4 DE that it will successfully read up to a 128GB micro SD card. Is that correct or am I reading it wrong?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] orcsbane13:
That is correct. I use one in mine.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
Absolutely. Sporting one in mine as well. And it's just about full!

Now to write a letter to Santa asking for a 256GB card to be released :p
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ebrinkis:
If you do this:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36262773&postcount=1

but use the type of extender that I have pictured in the attachment instead of the Home made one, you are good to go to up to 512 GB as of right now. Only problem is stuffing it under the cover... If desperate, you can have a Note 4 with a half terrabyte "External Hard Drive" LOL
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] windstrings:
Exactly! Now that phones are so big, we could even use a regular SD "not mini" and really go crazy!

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They need a slicker way to install them.. Soldering is lame
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ebrinkis:
That's where the adapter pictured above comes in -- plug and play no soldering! An SD card slot instead of a micro SD slot would make more sense on the bigger phones though.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
I missed the reason that a micro sd card should be replaced with a regular sd card or maybe a compact flash card?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
Because with the pictured adapter and the proper case you can have 256GB or 512GB of on board storage space.

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kernel-ed / TWRP 2.8.5.0.trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Why would you need 512gb on board?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
Overkill...lol

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kernel-ed / TWRP 2.8.5.0.trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
4k/8k video recording and 20MP photos will eat up memory like it's nothing :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] windstrings:
I have 55 movies, lots of songs, 14 cruise vacations with movies and pics, and only half full!

All backup up on an external HD too.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] orcsbane13:
Down to 23 left in Stock according to their website.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
Told you they'd be gone! Grab one while u can
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] :
Got mine the other day and loving it. This phone is sweet with root and the unlocked bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Buddy Revell:
Yup, same here. Loving my DE. They've been in stock for a while at Samsung and I don't know why. Not sure why more XDA members/Note 4 fans didn't snatch one up immediately. It's pretty easy to either 1. Sell the Note 4 retail they already bought or 2. Use their existing upgrade to buy an iPhone and sell it. The full-price cost of the DE can easily be minimized by doing this. No more need to anxiously wait for a dev to find an exploit for the locked boot loader on the retail version.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
I'd trade mine for a iPhone 6+ 128gb just for face time with my daughter. Love the phone but really missing face time.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
Is there some reason that skype or hangouts won't work as well? Genuinely curious, as I've never used facetime.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] JustSomeRandomGuy:
I'm comming off a Galaxy SIII that I got just before Verizon closed their unlimited data plan. I've been limping along with the SIII for the past couple of months with a broken charging port. I've had it repaired twice, but still no good. Finally bit the bullet and ordered the Note 4 Developer Edition. I've never rooted an Android phone before but I figure now's as good a time to try as any.

Just a heads up for people planning on ordering today. Use coupon code LETBP to get a free 3100mAh battery pack. I learned this because I was having trouble ordering the phone online (my work uses an older browser that the Samsung website doesn't like), so I called to order. The guy I spoke with told me about the coupon and said I could share it with other people.

I was worried that they would order the wrong thing on the phone so I had him confirm probably 3 times. But he kneow what was up and was familiar with the Developer Edition. My order confirmation also shows the correct model number and product ID.

So my next question is simply, how do I get this to work on my Unlimited Data plan with Verizon? Do I just pop in the SIM card from my SIII? Is it the same size SIM? If not, do I just go to a store and have them activate it onto my plan? I'm month-to-month right now and don't want to lose the unlimited data.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
Yup, just pop the SIM out of your S3 and stick it in the Note 4. Boom. Done. Yay!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] :
Your current sim should work. The phone dose come with a new sim that can be activated on your account. Just add a new device to your line and your s3 will come off. Then follow the instructions to add the new device. It's a fairly easy process. You can also call Verizon and have them do it for you but I think you will need to be on another phone other than your s3.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] JustSomeRandomGuy:
Sweet. Does the Developer Edition come with a SIM card as well, and if so, do I just toss it? Also, when I log onto the Verizon website, will it recognize the Note 4 or will it still see my S3 on my account? I guess that doesn't really matter, but I just want to know what to expect.

Basically, if I go into a store to activate the phone or whatever, will I screw myself out of the unlimited data plan somehow :crying: or would it just be a pointless waste of time?

Also, I'm aware that taking an Over the Air update would essentially turn the phone into a consumer version, but will updates even be sent to the phone? Or do I just need to be careful to not press the "Software Updates" option in settings? Sorry if my questions are very basic, but like I said, I've never rooted a phone and want to make sure I don't mess anything up.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
Going into the store would likely just be a waste of time. I've always just popped my original SIM in, but kept the SIM that comes with the phone just in case my SIM goes bad someday. You can activate a new SIM later if needed. Using the old SIM, it'll recognize the new device online and everything.

From my understanding, OTA's don't get pushed to the developer edition devices, you'll need to update it yourself. I assume that when an OTA drops, a dev will make it "safe" so it doesn't lock up the bootloader, and then you'll be able to just flash it using ODIN.

And no problem, better to ask questions, learn, and have everything go smoothly than not ask and end up with a retail version or paperweight!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Just toss the new one and pop the old SIM in...should work immediately. It will also get picked up by the Verizon website...don't know if it was instantaneous but the next time I logged in it recognized I had the note 4.

You will not be able to take an OTA (and even if it was possible you wouldn't want it as it would almost certainly lock your boot loader). There is a port of CM12 that seems to be working pretty well if you are desperate for lollipop but Xposed isn't fully supported so I am no rush. Using Definitive or FireKat ROMs with a solid use of Xposed and you have a hell of a device.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] :
The most important thing you can do is back up your aboot partition and make multiple copies of it. I even burned mine to a cd. I found these two threads to be very helpful for aboot. Thread 1 and thread 2. This thread works well for root and recovery. As soon as the Lollipop tar file becomes available either [MENTION=5868929]hsbadr[/MENTION] or I are prepared to make a dev safe update. I already did it for the S5 Dev-Ed and it works great.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
No just that everyone in my family is an iPhone head. Love the note 4 de. Face time is just easier for the other 9 family members.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Ragnell:
Well, I caved and Bought a DE version with my Tax return, Now im gonna sell my retail Note 4 and S5 when it gets here, I'm too excited
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Congrats, welcome to the Note 4 DE family. You're going to love your Note 4. I had the S5 DE and sold it to get my Note 4 DE...and absolutely no regrets.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
Antutu benchmark: My Note4 vs nexus6
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Wow, impressive!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Ragnell:
How long did it take for our orders to ship? I have next day delivery, I'm guessing they won't do sunday but I assume it'd come on Monday
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] balla48801:
I opted for the free shipping option and it arrived in 3 days after i ordered it
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Sokudoningyou:
Like everyone's said, just swap sim cards. That's what I did, and it shows up as a Note 4 now under my Verizon account. I got the phone, took out the sim that came with, rooted, backed up, backed up the aboot, and then put my old Note 2 sim in and it kicked right up onto the network. Honestly, the worse thing was trying to pull the original out; unlike the Note 2, it doesn't have a spring depress, you have to slide it out with minimal force.

For updates, I think if you're really worried, you could just go into the system and delete the apk that controls them. Then there's no question about accidentally getting one.

(Funny story, actually: I was just in a Verizon store today because my dad is taking his phone off our family plan to get his own line, and the salesman, despite being otherwise helpful, would not stop trying to get me to drop my unlimited data for a shared plan, even though I have the only smartphone on the plan. It was pretty hilarious the excuses he kept coming up with.)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] :
They will send you a tracking number when they ship it and it will come the next day with next day delivery. I ordered mine on a Thursday with next day air but didn't get untill Monday because I missed the order deadline time by a 1/2 hour. :rolleyes: If you ordered it on a Saturday it might not ship out until Monday so that would make Tuesday your day. Either way they will send the tracking number when it's shipped.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Same thing happened last year when my wife was getting the Note 3. They guy threw everything at me but the kitchen sink to get me to change. Just the mere fact that they want me off unlimited so badly will keep me on it as long as possible.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Sokudoningyou:
I know, right? That's why I was happy to find out I could just swap sim cards from my 2 to the 4, and not have to nurse the former through how many more years until it either broke beyond repair, or Verizon just takes unlimited away from the rest of us. (Which, granted, the guy did point out is likely they'll do at some point, which I agreed; but I'm holding on for dear life until then.) It was funny that he tried to argue that I was basically screwing others on the plan out of data because I won't share, but I'm the only one with a smartphone on the plan; who, exactly, I asked him, was I hoarding the data from? That, and the usual "well, you don't use very much of it," because that means I should then drop my cheap and plentiful plan for a more expensive and scarce one. :silly:

I am loving this DE, though. Even if ROMs are scarce on the ground until root is established. The fingerprint scanner works better than I expected.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
God I hate Verizon. Lol. But to the point...yeah the fingerprint scanner does work pretty well..way better than the S5..but don't be like me and bork it..I flashed something that killed it and caused huge amounts of lag throughout the system...I ended up just using Mod57's port of Beanstalk 5.0 to get rid of the lag and all the trouble all together.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
Ah gotcha, didn't know if there was some functionality in FT that apple had nailed that was better or something. Good luck haha
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Sokudoningyou:
Is that port not in the Verizon section? Because it seems pretty stark for roms there; I'm just running Definitive at the moment.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
Oh its definitely in the Verizon Note 4 side....just in an obscure spot called General. Lol. I've tried talking Mod into putting it in the Development section but he doesn't want it there...only one will boot into LTE and survive a reboot... Its the 2/2 build and after you get it set up you'll have to fix one spot in the APN to get MMS to work...use the search and you'll find that..the thread isn't long as there's only a handful of us running it..but its definitely a daily driver..after all set up and you have your apps then you can dirty flash the 2/11 build which is the last to be able to be dirty flashed..there's a build from the 28th but with just cache wipes it ended in a black screen for me and with a clean flash its set to wcdma not CDMA/LTE . Read the whole thread it won't take long...also I'm using a T-Mobile kernel by Zion959 that works great...its his 1.5 ultimate beta oc. That's found in his CMremix ROM download file under trltetmo kernels in the Basket build. Thank everyone for their hard work..its a great ROM and kernel.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
I'm running this kernel now. 1.6.

https://s.basketbuild.com/devs/Zion959/L/TRLTEtmo/TRLTEtmo Zion Kernel

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Beta kenels.

https://s.basketbuild.com/devs/Zion959/L/TRLTEtmo/TRLTEtmo Zion Kernel/Beta OC Kernel
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
I couldn't get 1.6 to calm down...1.5 works better for me. Might even try his newest Mainline to see if that's better as I don't usually oc anyway.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Calm down meaning how?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
The 1.6 wouldn't drop and stay at my set min clock..it would jump all over the place instead of settling down and riding it out. I just flashed the 0.7 Mainline and it settled right down to 223.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
what are you using to monitor you clock speed?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
I use FauxClock for setting up and I used CPU info in development settings for verification. I know sometimes some kernel adjustment apps will state wrong or stuck core speeds so I usually double check.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] eighty1:
Im contemplating buying the DE Note 4. I bought the T-Mobile version yesterday, but can't seem to make myself keep it, since I still have unlimited data on Verizon. I live in Atlanta, so service on T-Mobile is fine but traveling on the road as we know is a hassle and why I struggle moving from Verizon completely. Its a trade off of customizing my phones versus safe and reliable coverage.

My question is, how do you know what you can and can't flash on the DE version? Doesn't seem like a lot. Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
Wish I could go back to Tmo...regardless... I don't have the list but whatever is in the Verizon side you can flash..all Tmo kernels work..some Tmo Roms will work with a fix, some won't boot...most international N4 kernels I've tried work. Don't use my luck as a guide though since stuff can and will go wrong...good thing though is there's always a nandroid or Odin to save you. Oh and make a backup of your aboot..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] eighty1:
So, the obvious is the ROMS in the Verizon development section work fine, and others from other variants are a crap shoot? I'm mainly looking for a stable CM12 ROM and would like to flash other ROMS from other variants for a change up. To your knowledge only Tmo ROMS will work and not international but international kernels will? I don't mind trying and doing a Nandroid but if Im stuck with 1-2 ROMS I'd rather stay with the T-Mo variant and gut it out, then suspend my Verizon account and see if I can do Tmo only and potentially sell my unlimited data. I don't want to dive in if there have already been confirmation of what will and what won't. Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
If I were you I'd sell the vz unlimited before they drop it and if u can , use T-Mobile. First unlimited with them ain't going nowhere plus they don't play games like Verizon. Unlocked bootloaders and damn near instant root with most of their devices. Plus way more selection with Roms and kernels and you can use almost any gsm phone(unlocked) which gives you more selection. Also you're gonna have to just search for ones that work...I've been running Mod57's beanstalk for awhile and I'm happy so I haven't been looking or flashing anything new..sorry can't be of more help.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
I agree with you but I'm in a tuff signal area and Verizon is my only choice. Is data as good on Mod57's beanstalk as stock or a stock based ROM? My experience with some ports data is not as good. I'm in a bad signal area and need all I can get. Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
I was using Definitive in my crap area (Tundra of Minnesota) and in my home I only got 1 bar of LTE and would constantly drop to 3G...on Mod's Beanstalk I get 2 bars of LTE in my home and 3-full where I usually only got max 2 on TW . I confirmed with another user that its better than TW