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[Nexus 6  General] ECrispy:
Do you not find it cumbersome that you can't simply copy and share files on iOS? If I want to watch a video, I have to use iTunes to make it visible to an app. If I have multiple video apps, it has to be copied to each of their folders, because there's no global filesystem. In Android, I just put in in my Media folder and every app can see it.

Same for sharing. Intents is a thousand times more powerful than the new extensions in iOS 8. And 3rd party keyboards - which are still very buggy on iPhone.

Or how about clicking a map link and opening it in Google maps by default?

This isn't customization, this is just using the phone like a normal user. Like I said, if all you need to do is run apps and are happy with the limitations, iOS is a great user experience. Want to do anything more, it just won't let you.
[Nexus 6  General] spartanm99:
Wow I didn't know those limitations about iOS8. That is very informative; there was a time a few years ago when I seriously wanted an iPhone 4 but moved to Android (because it was a bit cheaper - got the Galaxy Nexus....good when I got it but terrible now). I like how in Android you can access a file through almost any app (if the app allows it). The thing I dont like with Android though (well what version I have used - 4.4.4) is that is still feels a bit 'cheaper' and less polished compared to the slick animations and overall interface/look of iOS. That just might be my opinion. I still believe that iOS on Mac's look far better than Windows 7/8 etc...more smooth, prettier. I just hate using a Mac (dont know how).

Anyway yes iOS has more restrictions but looks very slick and works within its own boundaries well. Android (the version I know best - 4.4.4) looks less slick, feels a bit less polished but has more functions.
[Nexus 6  General] msal:
I believe that with the release of Android Lollipop, you might have to reconsider. ;)
[Nexus 6  General] wendellc:
Lollipop is really nice. Matias and team really did a superb job with material design. Its very slick, transitions and animations are seamless. I have a feeling there are a lot more surprises that will be revealed leading up to the full release. I feel it's a major update..it seems as if no stone was left unturn.
[Nexus 6  General] spartanm99:
This is really great news as I've been hoping Android (especially Vanilla) would be finally made seamless, polished and include pretty animations and overall look like Apple have done with iOS. All I've heard about Android L is that they are heading in this direction which sounds great! :) Really hoping it is a totally different beast compared with Android 4.4.4; I want (and I suspect that many others want) Android to be just as slick.
[Nexus 6  General] Black_Tiger:
You're wrong, iOS has many shortcomings :

- Share between apps

- Choose X apps for X task

- WPS support for WiFi (Windows has it, OSX has it, Android has it, iOS doesn't...)

- File Manager

- Copy/Paste (Doesn't work everywhere on iOS)

- Server support ( Basically you can turn your phone into a FTP, Proxy, DLNA, SMB SSH... server)

- USB Support

- File Support (Flac, Torrent, MKV...)

I will stop here but there are MUCH more !

I have both iOS and Android, and don't get me wrong even though I can't stand an Apple product (It's just not for me), I am glad they are here

Competitiveness is always good and I love to see improvement on both sides, some of Apple ideas are just brilliant (Touch ID, Lightning port...)

We will not be here without them, there is a before/after iPhone.

In this world, perception is everything and Apple has understand that better than any others, but I think it's good to get past the perception, neither Android nor iOS is perfect (but what is ?) and at the end of the day I really think Android runs deeper than iOS.
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
One thing people don't realize about the iPhone and battery life is that smaller screens and lower resolutions use a lot less power. The screen is the number one power sucking element on a phone.

I think this is a big reason Apple resisted biggers screens as long as they did. The small screen on the iPhone 4 and iPhone 5, compared to what was going on in the Android world at the same time, allowed Apple to just crush every other phone in battery life.

Even now that Apple has moved up to larger screens, it is noteworthy that:

1) Both the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6+ have screens on the smaller side for their category. The iPhone 6 has a 4.7" screen, where most flagship Android phones are 5" or 5.2". And the iPhone 6+ has a 5.5" screen in the phablet category, where Android phones are heading closer to 6".

2) Equally if not more important, Apple did not bump up the pixel density on the iPhone 6 at all from the iPhone 5. It's still at 326 PPI. And the iPhone 6+ is only 401 PPI, in a world where Android phones are pushing 500 PPI and higher.

More pixels = sucks more power.

So it's going to be really hard for the Nexus 6 with a 6" QHD display to beat the battery life on the iPhone 6+ with a 5.5" screen and almost half the number of pixels.

I'm no Apple fan, but people need to understand that battery life is a real trade off, if one wants bigger screens and very high pixel density.
[Nexus 6  General] spartanm99:
Extremely good point, however Samsung devices can get close to Apple and so can the new Sony phones as I read.

The Nexus 6 should really have included more features to ensure that it is worthy of its premium title, at least for longer than a few months. Early next year the Galaxy S6 will release - it will likely have a far better screen than the Nexus 6, bigger battery, be much thinner, have a smaller overall build, be made (at least in part) from aluminium, more RAM, be 64bit, much improved camera etc. The N6 should've at least had some kind of feature that would make it worth its new premium footing (e.g. how about a bigger battery like the new Droid? Or a better front camera? Or a better screen, not something likely based from the Note 3? Or maybe a solid FP scanner?).

The N6 battery will probably last an hour more than the Nexus 5 when used in the same fashion. Not a great imphttp://xdaforums.com/#rovement for the average person in day to day life who will use the phone in the same way they used their previous phone.

edit: I dont want to come across as bashing the N6 - I'm preparing to get at least one for my girlfriend. Just reading through all the discussion on this phone and learning about what is currently in the market and what is soon to come, it makes me feel like when comparing the N6 to other phones...i think the N6 should've pushed the envelope more than it does.
[Nexus 6  General] alex989898:
It doesn't work like that.

First, iPhone settings will tell you "usage time" but not "screen on time". Usage time includes music playing, phone call and every moments when the phone is not IDLE.

Secondly, every review that have scientific measurements of battery life (like GSM Arena) will show you that GN4 has comparable battery life to the 6+ and that Z3 may be better than both of them.

And iPhone 6 is not really good concerning battery life because of its tiny battery.
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
Yeah, actually it does work like that.

What the settings tell you is irrelevant to actual battery life. I don't even understand why you brought that up. It makes no sense and has nothing to do with what I was saying.

GSMArena's tests are not "scientific" at all. They don't calibrate the phones to the same brightness and do other things to make a real apples to apples comparison. The GSMArena tests are almost meaningless.

AnandTech does a good job though. And they show that even with smaller batteries, in most tests the iPhones top the battery life charts. For example: http://anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review/7

Phones that do close to the iPhones tend to either be phones that have giant batteries (and are therefore much bigger and thicker phones) or phones that are older with displays and CPUs that put less demand on the battery (remember in the old days before touch screen smartphones when you only had to charge your phone once a week?).

In fact the one phone that tops the iPhone 6+ in battery life consistently is the Huawei Ascend Mate 2 that exactly fits the point I've been making. Although it has a very large 6.1" display, it is only 720p, with a super low 241 PPI pixel density. And it has a huge 4050 mAh battery. Low resolution display, giant battery. Perfect formula for long battery life.
[Nexus 6  General] nrd\:
This!! x100 This!

This is why I moved to Android and so far have stay on Android. I started on 3gs and loved the iPhone experience, fluid, apps where there but anything else accessing the file system (sending invoices / timesheet from work on Fridays to get paid) was just so painful not to have without jailbreak, but even with jailbreak it wasnt a good experience.

I get drawn into the iPhone hardware, love the way its built and IOS looks but when using say a native app to share say a file or picture and you cant see whatsapp in the list, and you have to copy and paste the picture....im sorry but .I just want to cry why??

This is why its Android for me, these days the hardware is more less equally as good bar some and more importantly the Android software it self is evolving into something brilliant every release so far since ice Cream
[Nexus 6  General] alex989898:
Anandtech method's is not any better than the one of GSMArena.

GSMArena uses 50% brightness for all phones and Anandtech uses 200nits brightness (if I remember it right).

It's stupid in both case. All phones doesn't had the same max brightness or doesn't use the same curve of brightness setting. In fact they don't even have same reflectivity or contrast, so they don't need the same brightness to achieve the same readability under direct sunlight.

For some phones, 200nits is near the max brightness (especially 2 years ago), but on other, it's not 1/3 of their Max brightness. But some phones will be totally unreadable under direct sunlight at 200nits and other will be "acceptable".

This kind of protocol only give an edge to phones optimised to achieve higher brightness and produce totally unrealistic results. (If you take the WiFi web browsering test, all of the 10 lowest are sub 400nits brightness except Nexus 4 and M7 and all of the top 10 is certainly more than 400nits phones).

In the other hand, GSMArena, using 50% brightness, take into account the curve of brightness that the phone use. That's not any better but that's not worse.
[Nexus 6  General] ilostmypistons:
Anand is literally employed by Apple... Haven't trusted them for a couple years
[Nexus 6  General] toddnbrown:
Can you download torrent movies on an iPhone, then send them to Chromecast? Does ios have Mobdro or TVMC? How about location spoofing, so I can get the all the NFL Games via Verizon? Popcorn time? Any chance you can block YouTube ads on ios, or any ads for that matter?

Some of these things I have gotten so used to having, that not having them is a deal breaker.
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
I don't disagree with you, I think it's ridiculous that we still can't set our own default apps with iOS. But with the way I use it, annoyances like these only pop up every now and again and aren't even close to being a deal breaker.
[Nexus 6  General] oneplus:
On iphone, it takes me twice as much time as it would take on nexus, to complete w.e task.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
Sounds like user error to me.
[Nexus 6  General] ECrispy:
Its not user error if the functionality doesn't exist. You already acknowledged that its not a productive and has missing things, why is it user error??
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
I was being facetious.

That said, just because apps can't share data or the fact that you can't set your own default apps doesn't make the iPhone any less productive, you just need to adjust the way you interact with it, which in the grand scheme of things is only a minor quibble. Millions of iOS users get by just fine, it's only when you're used to doing things a certain way with Android that it becomes a hindrance. Seeing as though I've been an iOS user since the 4, I am well acquainted with all of the iPhone's strengths and weaknesses, so when I use it, those minor annoyances don't slow me down at all. All that said, it's a different OS than Android and requires a different approach and once you become accustomed to it, it can be every bit as productive.

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If you read my post again you will see that I said "the way I use it". While it may not work for you, it works just fine for me. And I agree with you, Android is FAR more versatile than iOS, there is no arguing that. But what iOS does do, it does perfectly. Apple doesn't half-ass things like Samsung does. When they implement a feature, they do it right.
[Nexus 6  General] ECrispy:
_MetalHead_, now that you've explained your point of view, I agree fully. Of course lots of people use it daily and arguably the things it does it does better than others, there is value in that. In the end its all about finding whats best for your needs and adapting to what works best.
[Nexus 6  General] oneplus:
And you are who? ;)

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No wonder why you have lost sense of productivity...being with iphone since 4 has had its impact on you.

And Android vs ios =/ apple vs samsung. See the difference there?

Sent from my One A0001
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
The point I was making was that Apple doesn't arbitrarily toss in half-baked features like Samsung does. When Apple includes something, it's always fully realized and implemented in the best way possible. Samsung on the other hand, just throws feature on top of feature in a "lookie what I can do!" kinda way so on paper, their phones look better than they actually are.
[Nexus 6  General] Black_Tiger:
I forgot to say, It's Nexus or nothing for me, I had the GN, N4, N7(both) and now I'm on the N5, I don't do gimmick, I don't do touchwiz etc...

I'm looking for smoothness, power, efficiency, stock is the only way and I'm looking forward to see Android 5.0 aka Lollipop !
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
Yeah man, I can't do skins either. Ever since getting the original Moto X last year, I made a vow to myself to never use a skinned device ever again. It doesn't necessarily have to be a Nexus for me though, as I am a huge fan of Motorola. Their approach to Android is by far the best- keeping it stock but adding a few features to it that are actually awesome. I preferred my original Moto X over my Nexus 5 primarily because of Active Display, and it's really hard to use a device without it now. I just got the new Moto X the other day and am in absolute love with it. I really wanted to get the Nexus 6 but it is too large for me to be my primary phone. The Moto X is a perfect alternative.
[Nexus 6  General] Black_Tiger:
Completely agree, that's why I'm eager to see this Nexus, they really went all in with this one,

I wasn't sold on the 6" either but I do A LOT on my phone and after seeing and playing many times with the 6 Plus (Itself !) I'm now more inclined.

And beside the screen, having a device that size allows for another advantage, a bigger battery...

Motorola + Nexus + Android 5.0, I think it will be good, really good !
[Nexus 6  General] alex989898:
Again, that's doesn't work like that.

Go on DisplayMate review on both iPhone 6 plus and GN4 and see their display consumption measurements.

The GN4's display at 50% brightness consumes a lot less than the iPhone 6 plus (even less than the iPhone 6 display and less than the 1080p AMOLED screen of the Note 3) and a little more at 100% brightness (but at 100% brightness they use a full white image, so it's the peak of consumption for AMOLED). And their measurements

So no, bigger screen, higher resolution doesn't necessarily mean higher consumption because different technologies will not consume the same amount of power.

And again, Anandtech using 200nits as a value for their test only gives an unfair advantage to higher brightness screens.

In their test, Galaxy Note 3 is in the same league that the Nexus 5. Seriously ? Is there someone that can last 9h of web browsering with the Nexus 5 ? Because that's what Anandtech writes...

At the end of the day, GSMArena produce far more accurate results. (I think it's also due to the fact that they not only test activity with big white screen which again is very unfair).

But a better protocol would be to tests phones under different levels of luminosity for the same contrast ratio.

And in fact, most of the reviews I read complain about iPhone 6 battery life (Engadget, GSMArena, Phonearena, lesnumeriques, CNET, ...). Anandtech and the Verge (lol) are the only reviews that I remember that are saying iPhone 6 has a good battery life.

In the other hand, iPhone 6 Plus has a great battery life. It's one of the best in the phablet segment but roughly in the same league that the Note 4 (in fact, a lots of review say that the Note 4 is better in terms of battery life) and not as good as the Xperia Z3.

Edit : I agree with you that on the same tech and to achieve the same brightness level (which is not always the case, some phones increases the number of pixels but decrease the brightness), it needs more power.

My point is that iPhone screens aren't particularly efficient and some higher resolution screens can consumes less or equally than iPhone screens (with seems to be the case with the Note 4 and is certainly the case battery e Z3 too).

Battery life on the iPhone 6 plus is due to its big battery and recent 5.5"+ Android's phones (Note 4, Z3) achieve same or better battery life with similar battery size (Note 4 and Z3 have 10% bigger batteries).
[Nexus 6  General] cdmoore74:
No question; the Nexus by a landslide. To me the real battle is Nexus 6 vs Note 4; both phones kill the iPhone. Once you start using iOS you will be running back to Android quickly.
[Nexus 6  General] fix-this!:
i wish people would stop comparing the iphone against anything android. get the iphone if you need:

the same boring UI.

an option of a bendable phone.
[Nexus 6  General] amebiasis:
Lol I am still seriously contemplating the 6+ as u said in an earlier post I actually had it ordered but canceled due to the N6 coming to Verizon, heck Verizon messed up my order and sent my wifes to her on launch but for whatever reason messed mine up and had it scheduled for oct 31st. Im debating it now. I havent messed around to intensely with my wifes so wondering if you could answer my question. Hiws the "widgets" iOS has implemented treated you? I always have a nice weather and music widget on my home screen. Can you still put in like I always used poweramp and beautiful widgets weather those as custom widgets in the pull down? Also like music controls on the lock screen? These despite being small are things I like about android and was just curious. Thanks!
[Nexus 6  General] wendellc:
Shook 187...you weren't really a lifer android user. U just never had an iPhone because their screens were too small.

All the way up to the unveiling, I heard people talk about how they are android users but that if apple comes up with a big screen they would jump on an iPhone.

At this point both systems are similar but android still ahead as obviously stated. Android is always pushing the envelope not hindering it.

Amebiasis...widgets implementation on android is best, in your face!
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
In all fairness, the UI is only a very small part of the experience. Yeah iOS is "boring" in that you can't customize your home screen at all, but the overall look of it is gorgeous. And honestly, how much time do you really spend staring at your home screen? Not a lot, hopefully. You turn on your phone, swipe to find an app, and then you use that app. The iPhone has far too many good things going for it to be dismissed simply because you can't customize the home screen. Now other people have brought up some very valid points as to why iOS won't work for them, but the whole "boring UI" argument is old, tired, and moot as far as I'm concerned.

And the whole bendgate thing was proven to be blown way out of proportion. The iPhone is actually one of the strongest and most durable phones on the market.
[Nexus 6  General] oneplus:
How about the fact that the iphone is not smooth at all? Come on come up with some cool story about that too, you can do it :D

Sent from my One A0001
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
Yes, there are many criteria with displays, but I think that resolution and size are actually the main criteria and that the importance of the other elements aren't as great as you're making them out. Is it your position that with two screens of the same technology that a larger higher resolution version does not use significantly more power?

That aside, I don't really understand why you have focused your arguments about brightness on sunlight legibility. What you say about that may be correct, but I don't consider sunlight legibility to be the main use case scenario. I consider indoor legibility to be where people use their phones most of them time in the real world. And in that situation, brightness is the main issue. Again, I feel your focusing on the less important details of how screens effect battery life.

Anyway, I'm happy to let it drop. I appreciate your comments and certainly learned some things from them. But we've probably gotten about as far as we're going to get on the topic.
[Nexus 6  General] Goku80:
this what you just said is what has done it for me and has not made me make the move back to android...i love android with all my heart and i would still say for customization and tweaking the device android is the best OS. But for your above quote is why i have stayed with my 5s and most likely get the next iphone when it comes out next year.

i was tempted by the n6 no denying that and if the price comes abit down say by Feb i might be tempted to get it but there have been occasions that i wanted to come back only to stop myself and think that my iphone does everything for me...i have used my gfs 6 plus and i still say that is the most beautiful device i have ever used with close second the htc m8...

to bring it back to topic....N6 will be a beautiful device and i can not wait to hold it in my hand to play with it but i still with the current mess that they have provided us with as in no dates yet when it will get released in the UK and no pricing for me that is a major fail
[Nexus 6  General] cobyman7035:
only 3 things the iphone6 is better: brighter max screen display for outside use? and that fingerprint sensor and prolly better battery life for sure
[Nexus 6  General] msavic6:
As much as I have hope that Google will be able to produce a great camera experience on the Nexus 6, I still think the iPhone will have a much better camera both quality wise and reliability wise.
[Nexus 6  General] x111:
If Apple Co will make iphone with pure Android directly from Google as their nexus phones, when I will take a look on iphone.

For now it's dead phone with crappy iOS.