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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wy1d:
When hsbadr releases M, I'm going to buy a fresh Samsung battery and a 128G SD card and have the best phone on the planet.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] FAUguy:
That daily deal Amazon had last month for the 200GB card for $140. I couldn't pass it up at that price, through the 128GB was $50.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
I got that 128 Gb card. I'm glad I did. So far, counting the O/S, I have 62 Gb of data stashed in there. Almost 1900 songs, a full season of my favorite TV show, a couple home movies, over 500 pics and a bunch of phone stuff and I have almost 90 Gb more to work with. Can you do that with a Note 5. Nope!

Sent from my SM-N910V DE w/MoRom
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
I haven't been up up on reading the forum. It's been a while. M is AOSP? And not touch wiz?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
:) the written and unwritten rule of XDA: "Never ask for an ETA"

It'll be released when it's ready, and knowing [MENTION=5868929]hsbadr[/MENTION] not a moment before. He won't let it out until he has a very high confidence level, JasmineROM releases are always solid. Better to wait until then, than to get something sooner but not "just zackly perfeck"

EDIT: The quoted post was modded before posting.

The next JasmineROM (4.0?) will be based on Android 6.0 and [MENTION=5868929]hsbadr[/MENTION] has posted a poll for which flavor to build. ATM the TW-base of 6.0 is the likely next build, based on poll results and the polish and usability of other features that depend on TW
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Yea. I've always have stuck to his Roms after beans town left the vzw world.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcounts:
What poll are you looking at? The poll that clearly has the most votes is CM. LP 5.1.1 hasn't even been released for Verizon, and from what I get from his statement [MENTION=5868929]hsbadr[/MENTION] is referring to Android 6.0 for the build....no mention of TW.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DeMightyWit:
I know most will call me a traitor, but I got the note 5. I listed my DE on ebay. It's at 500 right now with extra battery and charger, cases and zagg shield.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
Traitor! Lol. [emoji6]

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pospower:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=272012621441&alt=web

Lots of goodies included
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
And another with goodies...https://swappa.com/listing/PWG773/view

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DeMightyWit:
Mine is still only at $510 for some reason. Auction ends in less than 5 hours.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141797196527?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
Expect sniperbids at the last possible few seconds

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
I'm watching now. May pick up another lol what's condition like on it?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ljv:
I'm selling both of mine locally in the Plano, TX area. Thought about listing on Swappa or Ebay but after fees, it wasn't worth it to me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidguy22:
On Swappa there is no fee for sellers, Swappa fee is added to the price which is currently $10 flat.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ljv:
I was thinking more of the paypal fees. Hmm. Maybe I should just list on swappa to get more visibility. Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidguy22:
Paypal fee is not that bad, about 3%, on $700 it would be about $20. However I also prefer local sale, no shipping, no worries of disputes, charge backs etc..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
Great deal $610 for a DE https://swappa.com/listing/CRN155/view

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
Yea next time someone wants to sell for $625 don't bother listing it just send me the payment request. Seriously, standing offer.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mexigga:
Man...I couldn't bring myself to buy this for $600+... ?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bagery77:
Y'all should start telling us where you're heading off to, inquiring minds! ;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] plainbum:
Yeah me neither, I keep thinkng Nexus 6P 128gb for close to the same price.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
I could swing this for 600 before I could swing a 64GB note 5 for 800 do i want to nooo but who knows what I'll do. At this point I'd have to not blink to catch it at that price
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
I'm sorry guys but I'm really afraid you're going to miss out on the best phone on the market if you're not willing to spend a few extra bucks.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] yamaha_wins:
Can't read... :banghead:

Plus it seems all the people who support this phone is jumping ship to something else?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
Who are you talking to?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] yamaha_wins:
I'm sorry... 2 pages back you replied to someone.. when I read it I thought you had sold your phone. But you was calling them a traitor.. very sorry..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mexigga:
I hear you but I still have a small thin amount of hope that root for the retail version will surface! If I am wrong, so be it. I love my N4! :cool:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
No biggy man. The person I was responding to said people might call him a traitor so I did. I was hoping it would come across as a joke.

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Yeah I'm hoping too. That would probably mean there would be more custom roms to choose from. I like the one I have a lot but I like to change stuff around once in a while like other people here do. I hope they come through for you man. I really do. [emoji106]

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Ddjergins:
You sell it yet I'm over by Longview
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
Dev..$810 https://swappa.com/listing/QYC544/view

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] christiebunny:
Is the dev note 4 really /that/ much better than the normal verizon one for $300? o.O
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
The retail Note 4 can't be rooted nor run a custom kernel. The Dev Ed can. To those who can't stand the thought having a non-rooted phone it's very valuable.

Also Verizon has stopped subsidizing phones. Now you have to pay full price but you get a payment plan.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] christiebunny:
I've got an upgrade available for $299 still, according to them.... but you're saying it *can't* be rooted, no one has figured out how YET? o.O. I guess I'll stick with my Note 2 for a while longer :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] JDevil:
My dev note 4 is being sent back now from Samsung for not being able to recover data after being in a dead zone. I'll tell you it seems it's the last flagship phone (that I've seen) on Verizon that's rootable. In my eyes, yes still very valuable. I expect the rooting game only getting worse despite how many customizable options Marshmallow has making root less and less needed.

In my eyes, the note 6 is going to have to be perfect in order for me to upgrade, despite the sheer genius of the current Samsung pay. The other gimmicks on the note 5 don't come close. Only worthwhile upgrades are the ram and speedy ssd. I don't buy into this fingerprint scanner fad, nor the edge screen. I so hope the IR blaster makes a return as a feature (and the thermometer; up to date social weather... hello?) since it's so much more useful. If a 128gb option isn't available without sd support, no go for me. I used to be a person to carry a separate mp3 player with my full collection back in the early days of Android, but having only 64gb of storage on a flagship device in 2015 is inexcusable. I had a 32gb original zune. ZUNE. Think about that. What was that 2005?

I have unlimited data and I'll cling to it, because the cloud is not the answer, not when data packages are so ridiculously priced in this country. I know sooner or later in going to most likely have to upgrade to a phone that compromises these features, thus requiring a hefty data package. A 32gb Samsung sd card can be had for $10 in a brick and mortar store. In conclusion, yes the Verizon dev ed phone is still worth the money because it's a current gen top end phone that doesn't comprise, unlike it's half baked successor. Network providers and phone makers are becoming more restrictive when everyday more and more is becoming heavily internet based. Micro sd -> Sd card adapter w/ zerolemon, a half TERABYTE sd card and mhl 3.0 adapter here I come!

tl;Dr - yes dev ed worth it, I want the features of my old creative jukebox 3 without the comprise and restrictive "streamline curves" of an iPhone. Go big (Samsung power phones) or go home ( Apple).

/ end rant
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] christiebunny:
Wonderful, and there's nothing comparable that /can/ be rooted, as far as I know, looks like I'm stuck with my note 2 until I can save enough for a dev version... I doubt the price'll drop in the six months or so it'll take me :p
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
Just passing along the listing for anyone in need..Dev for $760 https://swappa.com/listing/IIC961/view

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] JDevil:
I don't think if I didn't pay for my dev ed right away I'd pay these prices. My beater phone is a moto e, and I love how it just flies. I'd definitely go for a Motorola phone on Verizon despite their lack of updates.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jbombs16:
Has anyone tried to install samsung pay? I installed it and there is a prompt to update samsung security policy. Does anyone know what this update is for? Will I lose root / lock my bootloader by taking the Security update?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] FAUguy:
It simply will not load.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
DE..$700..https://swappa.com/listing/TZM467/view

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Android.Ninja:
No disrespect intended, & I'd be seriously interested in purchasing if the phone was correctly priced based on the conditions per the pictures. That's more than normal wear & tear. The phone "New" was $700.00. With no cosmetic blemishes or wear I could see the justification in $700.00. How did the seller come about pricing it at new cost??

Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!

If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button. *?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] plainbum:
Greed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
What do you mean by this...?

Is there some solution available (from zerolemon?) that allows you to adapt an SD card to a microSD slot? (bigger into smaller doesn't work as well as the reverse) And, I think one of the things that's most preventative about storage space on newer phones (Samsung's latest batch, especially) is that they have no expandable storage slot. Traditionally, this was a microSD slot... as we're all aware.

I have seen examples of so-called "battery cases" that plug into the charging/data USB port... with a switch that would connect either a battery or a microSD card via OTG. That's the only solution I've seen that would allow for external storage to be used on a Note 5 (for instance). Even then, the only case I saw that offered it was for an S6. Conceivably, it could be done for any phone... and in fact, I have written emails to some popular case manufacturers with this idea in the past.

Please elaborate on your meaning, in case there's something I've missed. Regardless, as long as I'm on Verizon (which may not be long now that T-Mo has better coverage around my area), I can't root a Note 5 anyway, so I'm not going to get one no matter what the external storage situation.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Well, not so fast. If you go by "what the market will bare" $700.00 is not a bad price. I've seen the Note 4 Developer Editions go for $800.00 and $850.00. I've even seen someone offer $1000.00 for one, but I don't know for sure if that sale took place or not. If you can find someone who really wants a quality developer edition device the Note 4 will bring more than its original sales price (assuming its in mint condition).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
First of all he has a right to choose a price. This is a rare phone, why do some cars keep their value after 10-20 years to almost same price they were sold brand new? Because that's the price they're worth to the owner. A mint condition DE note 4 was sold for a lot more earlier this month... So 700 is perfectly fair in my opinion. I wouldn't sell my DE for less than that right now either...no disrespect but I hope this answers your question.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] plainbum:
How do you feel about the guy that was selling bags of ice for $20 a bag after Hurricane Andrew?

The phone in question does not look to be in mint condition. Pretty abused IMO.

Cheers!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] JDevil:
http://xdaforums.com/note-4/general/half-terabyte-phone-tank-phone-550gb-t2987826
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Android.Ninja:
However the one that we are discussing, is not in top condition. Based on the pictures that were listed by the seller, there is considerable / excessive wear o. The device. Based on what has actually sold lately in the US market. This unit is "way overpriced. "

Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!

If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button. *?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] JDevil:
See this thread http://xdaforums.com/note-4/general/half-terabyte-phone-tank-phone-550gb-t2987826
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Boot into twrp and reboot should root for you or try su.zip
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Zekial:
Been 24 hours, still no tracking number. I am getting WAY too worked up for this :eek:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
Or this. The CF auto root was to gain root access to get access to flash TWRP. Having an unlocked boot-loader we can bypass this. Install TWRP and flash the regular SU as we have with every developer device before this one.

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anyone that has booted into TWRP, if you go to the reset menu to reset the phone does it ask to install SU?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wyatt57350:
It does offer the option to install superSU, but I want some assurances I won't be bricking my device before I tell it to go ahead.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Congrats to you and your family.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Congrats my friend. I hope baby, Mom and Note 4 are doing fine. Gotta love UPS.

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I was going to ask the same thing.

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If I remember correctly, flashing SU in recovery either passes or fails. If the flash fails it does not brick the phone...you just don't have root. If you don't get a fail message during the flash then very good chance you have root. You can check root with RootChecker from the Play Store.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] EMSpilot:
Chainfire

New link from Chainfire

http://download.chainfire.eu/590/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-trltevzw-trltevzw-smn910v.zip

Please test and advise!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpmcnown:
I'm considering making a fake profile, and saying "It Works!!". Then if people come back all pissed off, well, it didn't work.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wyatt57350:
Well I tried it and it did NOT acquire root access :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] EMSpilot:
Chainfire

I want to thank Chainfire for putting forth the effort to root our Verizon Note 4 Dev Phones. Hopefully this is a fix!!

Here is a link to his new post!! Bottom of page!!

http://xdaforums.com/note-4/orig-development/sm-n910-cf-auto-root-t2897428/page47
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bigsnack:
Slight off topic, but one can get the dev edition on verizon edge(so you can pay monthly), right? I also take there is no way, without unlocking bootloader, to make the regular Note 4 a dev edition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Boss428man:
Congratulations, And you have to get that UPS worker something amazing for Xmas that is quite the driver!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] EMSpilot:
Dev Phone

To my knowledge you cannot buy the Dev Phone on the edge program. There is no way to make a Dev Phone from a stock Verizon model as of yet!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Boss428man:
Dev Ed. has to be purchased through Samsung, so I'd say not to the first questions. As of right now... yes with out an unlocked boot loader the regular Note 4 won't be similar to the Dev. I'm hopeful what someone with unlock it but from the past history it doesn't look very positive but lets keep looking up! Its a big hit for cash but the freedom I feel for me is worth it. Good luck with your endeavors. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
I win!!!

First vzw with root!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] doctor-cool:
You going to tell us what you did?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Well, back to the drawing board.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
Proof
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wyatt57350:
Still checking it out, but it appears I have root access :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
I already told you what to do back an hour ago :/

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Flash the lastest SU in TWRP like any of the DEs before this.

I chose the ignore knox. I will see if i can delete APKs...

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AND AGAIN i take no responsibility for any failures of your device. Just sharing what I did myself.

MAKE SURE YOU BACK UP YOUR PHONE IN TWRP BEFORE ANYTHING!!!!!

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power on sounds GONE!

Camera sounds--- OFF!

Next is to try to get factory Hotspot working.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Android.Ninja:
Respectfuly,

First of all, this is not a car.

Second, it's not on mint condition.

Thirdly, I didn't ask a question, I made a closed statement.

Anyone has the right to ask what ever they like for the item they are selling if they are the owner, but just because they ask for ten million dollars, doesn't mean that it's worth it.

Now back to reality. This is "Not" worth the asking price based on what has "actually sold" already in the US market. Based on the pictures that are supplied with the device and based on the last 3 sales per specifically the last 2 that were I. "Fair Shape" as is this one. It's in no way worth the same price it was new in the condition it is in now, period.

Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!

If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button. *?

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You are absolutey and 100% correct. There is so much wear, specifically actual damage to the ear Jack area and charging area etc. This is in no way "Mint. " lol

Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!

If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button. *?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
[IMG="OMG"]http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Mother-of_God.gif[/IMG]
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jcip17:
Developer noob question:

Who knows how to run tmobile roms on our phone? I can't get texting to work. We're both unlocked bootloaders it's gotta be possible to port
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
You don't offer an equivalent comparison. There is a world of difference between the two situations in my opinion.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
Comparing apples to oranges here.

The phone is abused...so go buy one(DE) that isn't abused for same or lesser amount.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
Well looky here!!! ..fellow member DE $999https://swappa.com/listing/MPD536/view

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] plainbum:
Weeeel Doggies!

Too rich for my blood.

Wondering if he'll lower the price for it, or just pull it entirely and put it up on eBay
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] raduque:
Seems kinda ****-ish to ask for that much. It's just a cellphone. I wouldn't pay more than $100 over current retail on the Note 4 (which is extremely inflated already at $624). I would definitely never pay more than 3 of my truck payments for it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
He can ask as much as he wants. It is worth a good $750+ these days. On another note a guy offered him $350 on swappa LOL
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] raduque:
He is certainly free to ask $10000 if he wants. But it seems exploitative to me. I wouldn't pay anything higher than 750 for it myself. It's worth more, but not $300 more.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
Exploitative...as if a Note 4DE ? is ?bread or water even? There is no retail anymore afaik. And as said before let the market bear what it will. ?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] plainbum:
Exploitative as in, you are selling it used for much more than it's retail price.

Good luck, keep us posted on what happens. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
$860...https://swappa.com/listing/WFS856/view

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VandersonRL:
cool
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Neo3D:
Is this the correct model number for the Developer Edition?

Samsung SM-N910V
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
Yes
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
That's a bit mis-leading...all Verizon variants (DE as well as Retail) of the Note 4 are that model.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Neo3D:
That's what I noticed, too
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
Indeed it is and indeed it is.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
Most DE owners are proud to let you know that it is in fact a Developer Edition..3 ways to tell, only 1 is real proof....first, the box will be stamped Developer Edition on the front cover, second..the phone itself may be stamped Developer Edition behind the battery, and third..the real proof is to ask for the bootloader screen..it will display all the info right there including if it has a custom recovery installed.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hsbadr:
Not exactly!

SM-N910V implies a Verizon variant of Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (any Edition), but the exact Developer Edition model number is SM-N910VMKEVZW. The Retail (SM-N910V) and Developer (SM-N910VMKEVZW) Editions have the exact same hardware and software though (except the

aboot

partition). Here's a detailed specs-comparison.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
Smarty pants:D

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rayjr13:
Well call it what you will, exploitation, blackface, slavery or whatever but...updated. clearly some purchases are liabilities this device was clearly an appreciating asset. Choose your next device wisely. Not bragging try any means so don't get me wrong, but seriously when I sell my house for more than I paid because my neighborhood became more desirable, I surely won't feel guilty. Nor will I feel like I took advantage of anyone or sad for who was watching it rise right out of their price range.

Interesting topic to me is I can't remember a more appreciated and satisfying device to the masses and to the developer community. Anyone think of a past device so well desired?

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Difference is in the suffix. DE is SM-N910VMKE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] christiebunny:
there's a difference between 'what the market will bear' and 'what the market *should* (ethically) bear'. Thinking like that leads to price gouging, accelerated inflation, and taken to the extreme, things like $6,000 loaves of bread and hyperinflation.