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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Well you may be right, lets hope not. I know with my S5 Dev all I had to do was ODIN the latest version of TWRP and flash SuperUser through recovery. Root and custom recovery that fast and simple. Perhaps the same will work with the Note 4 since it is still on 4.4. Fingers crossed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
I called them up and they said mine should ship tonight or tomorrow and be here in 4-5 business days.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
I agree. Hopefully the latest version of TWRP can be ODIN on the Note 4 and the latest SuperUser can then be flashed through recovery. That worked on the S5 Dev on 4.x.x.

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That's outstanding. I sure hope you're right.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Ill update when i get any other info.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
Oh I definitely agree, it *should* be that simple on 4.4. in fact, I'm counting on that. My comment was that if we were to get our DEs w/ 5+ then it would be a whole 'nother thing.

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Awesome. thanks for the update. I did overnight, so I'm hoping by maybe Wed or Thu then
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Yep, if the DE comes with 5.x we'll be in a waiting game for awhile that is for sure.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
I recently swapped out my retail N3 for a DE N3 and found that just finding a version/flavor of TWRP that would boot was pretty difficult. I wound up going with:

openrecovery-twrp-2.8.0.1-hltetmo-4.3.img.tar

Yes, that's a T-Mobile flavor of TWRP but that's the latest version and only flavor I could get to boot. My guess is, that once we get our DEs, we may face a little bit of trial and error in finding a TWRP version/flavor that works.

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Since the preorder page advertised 4.4, I'm thinking that if for any reason they shipped it with anything else, we [the consumer] would probably have just cause for refund/return. Maybe I'm off-base, I ain't no lawyer, but that'd have to fall under false advertising. Let's hope we don't have to explore that horrid notion.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Maybe I'm thinking to positively, LOL. You would think that the S5 and the Note 4 on the same version of 4.x could use the same version of TWRP and SuperUser. Maybe that would be to simple...and handy. I guess the different kernels have a big play in whether that will work or not.

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Man, let's don't go down that road. That's 10 miles of bad road.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
Ladies and Gents... wooo-freakin-hoooooo! Just got my shipped notification! Yea baby.

Edit: That has to mean for sure no 5+ as it's not been released yet. yaaaaaaaaa.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
What time did you order?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
nice..update us with some pics when u get it. When is it suppose to get to your door.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
Order confirmation email timestamp:

Mon 2014-10-27 4:49 AM

I have a buttcrack early commute, get up @ 4:30AM and saw the awesome post by urmcgwy 2 hours prior, and followed his steps, bam. order placed ~4:45 this morning EDT
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Awesome...glad to hear. I order mine overnight but haven't received a shipping notice from UPS yet...got my fingers crossed. I didn't order mine till about 2:30 PM, so maybe that was too late to get "out the door" today. WE'll see.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
Hi xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, you have a package coming.

Scheduled Delivery Date:	Tuesday, 10/28/2014

:)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
thanks i agree! these people need to get a grip on life
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Poloasis:
Thank you!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
No their next day specifically states that if ordered before 4 pm central time that it will go out that day and be delivered the following business day pm.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] orcsbane13:
Yay, just ordered mine. I was waiting for the nexus 6 but I love that this has an SD card slot and simultaneously voice and data w/o waiting for an update that may never come.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
I screwed up my email addy so no acknowledgement damn
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zackr6912:
I was just told that no overnight deliveries were sent last night and they are investigating why. The representative said they are going to call all 500 customers later today.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
and where does it say money back guarantee?????
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
This isn't 1990. I know how shipping works. Amazon has a counter on items. Order in the next 3 hours and 15 minutes, click next day, and get your package tomorrow.

That's just what I did. They shouldn't offer something if they can't provide it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
The first sentence says: "If you place your order before 4pm CST on a business day, it will shipped out that day using Next Day PM".

The second sentence says "If you place your order after 4pm CST, it will be shipped out the following business day using Next Day PM".

Going by this, if you ordered yesterday before 4pm CST then it should have shipped yesterday and arrive today. If you ordered after 4pm CST yesterday it should ship today and arrive tomorrow. It seems like Samsung is shipping today regardless of when you ordered, so it's perfectly reasonable for people to request a refund on the $20 shipping cost since they did do what they said they would.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
they arent amazon no where does it say money back guarantee you get next day
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wyatt57350:
So I received one in the first go around. I did not feel that it was quite right (low benchmarks and more lag than others I compared too) so I decided to return my device and place a new order. According to the person I talked to there was less than 5 of them in stock at the time of my call. Hopefully I don't end up having two phones at the end of this, I tried to be upfront with them about tripping Knox and what not and they said they would still issue me a refund as long as everything showed up.... However, I still have my doubts. I think I spent nearly 2 hours on the phone with them and it did not seem like anyone was aware of what was going on.

Walton
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
Where does it say they won't.

I've had this happen on my past 2 DEs and they have always refunded.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zackr6912:
It doesn't have to have a money back guarantee. Under title 15 of US Code its false advertising. We order under the advertised next day delivery if ordered before 4. Also your a troll.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
I just called and complained hardcore. I got a call yesterday from the supervisor and placed my order with her and her. She stressed the order would be here today. Yes it was free overnight shipping but with all the other bs ive been through with samsung trying to get this phone since my original order on oct 27th. This jisy added on top of it. Now my order will be here tomorrow because something with etching. I explained it has been excuse after excuse after excuse and something has got to change. This is complete bs.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
haha this is funny. yeah also under title 15 of us code is that false advertising doesnt always work buddy. lets say a car dealer lists a car for $2599 when it should have been $25,999 does that mean you get it for $2599 um no

also im a troll? coming from you with 3 posts LOL

all of you have ruined this thread and are morons where is a mod when you need one
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Sad. It's stuff like this that just ruins the thread, the vibe, and the desire to even look on here. I hope your $20 fortune takes you where you want to go. Just a joke when they are providing exactly what you paid for!

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You didn't see the order option without etching on the phone? Bummer
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
its a lost cause. just give up
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
I give..lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] triton302:
Wow, you guys are ridiculous. The phone shipped today, yes? You'll get it tomorrow, yes? You're not getting it next Monday like myself and others that used standard shipping, yes?

Bunch of unappreciative people, I tell you. You guys are going to ruin it for the next group that buys this phone, by calling up Samsung and demanding a refund on shipping on an item they dont have to sell you, theyre going to take their sweet time getting another batch of phones because of the "gimme gimme" consumers this go-round. Unreal.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Me too

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Agreed 100% they don't realize Samsung doesn't have to offer these phones and yet complain complain complain. I didn't even buy from Samsung this time but it's ridiculous. It's always a few that ruin it for the rest
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
I didn't pay for two day shipping, I paid for next day. I don't understand why some can't understand this.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
I did not get the etching but I did get a tracking number. Hope it leaves today.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
i have no idea what she meant by that. She said that is why all the phones did not ship yesterday.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
So there is no UPS delivery this Friday?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Mibuix0r:
You should still be able to login on their website and check
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
If people didn't care when they get their phone, today, tomorrow, this week, they wouldn't choose the option to pay $20 for overnight shipping! That was the whole point to get the phone overnight!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urmcgwy:
When I ordered in October the tracking number was issued that day (I ordered just after midnight), but it didn't actually ship until the next day (turning it into 2 day shipping). I just called after the overnight shipping window closed and they refunded me the shipping fee+tax. Hope that helps!

Sent from my unlocked and rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 4 DE!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tornaszer:
Exactly. It's commerce not a favor to Samsung. They have sound reasons for doing this program . We should respectfully request return of the $20 and not criticize each other. Mine will be a day late and no less exciting for the 24 hour delay.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
like I said earlier if you guys would have done any reading up and checking about developer edition phones from Samsung the last few pages about overnight shipping wouldn't exist.

on samsung developer edition phones they have to put "developer edition" aka etching, on the phone. It's been like this for all the previous devices. So that's why the phones don't leave their facility asap. This is handled as a specialty item with them.. They don't want to etch up a bunch of them with the possibility of not selling them. Educate yourself before you call Sammy complaining. You're lucky Wed is the delivery date. Like the other member said, the ones calling and complaining are just going to ruin it for others!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] texasez:
I had a note 3 DE that was not shipped overnight as I ordered and Samsung refunded all shipping costs.

No problem. Lighten up people.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Read up (or back and up).. i just explained why the dev edition phones don't leave the facility as you obviously think it should. They will hopefully eliminate next day air as an option because no one has any patience..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DavidMT909:
I just called and complained but my situation is different than everyone elses. I work graveyard and have to be to work by 10pm. They deliver anytime between 9am until after 7pm sometimes. I live alone and need to sleep during the day and have no idea when it might be delivered and when to sleep. As the lady on the phone just told me, if they knock and I don't hear it, they usually just leave the package at the door, and I've seen this a few times before when my mom has ordered. I remember one time my mom and I were at her house, and the guy walked up, left the package and walked back to his truck never even knocking, and we could see him right out the front window. Anyone want to leave there newly paid for almost $800 phone sitting out in front of street view? So I was off last night, and able to be up today, hence overnight delivery was great for me. After actually hanging up on me the first two times that I mentioned the phone, and I was cordial about it, the third time she finally talked to me after I asked if she was going to hang up again. She said there was a last minute problem, and someone from Samsung actually had to come down there and update some software on the phones before they went out. If that's true, talk about last minute. So she refunded my $20. And to the guys thinking overnight does not mean overnight, it clearly states on their site "Orders placed before 4pm Central Time M-F will be shipped for Next Day PM Delivery via UPS" so stop being a douche and bashing people for being mad about not getting what they paid for. There is such a thing as false advertising, and for a company to not stick by what it says would look bad. No one is trying to "get over" on anyone. We just want what we paid for, otherwise we would have chosen a cheaper shipment method. That's why they give you those options. I for one only paid for the overnight because I actually needed it for my sleeping schedule, and out of fear they would fill those orders first and be backordered again. Otherwise I would have taken the free shipping.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
That's standard at my house. My desk in in a room with street view. I can hear the UPS truck pull up, and see between the curtains. Last 3 times they have not knocked.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
Sorry guys I'm out of the office an unable to follow up too much until later but what the etching meant according to my Samsung contact is that they literally needed to etch the words "Developer Edition" under the battery on our devices. That's the reason why they didn't go out today. For all those who ordered with one day shipping you don't need to be too mad, Samsung will honor the refund of your shipping according to what she said because they didn't just mean one day delivery shipping method, they literally meant processing and sending out that very same day.

Good luck everyone, I'll update you all when I'm back from my client meeting.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Interesting. Can anyone who already has a DE check their phone and post a picture if it is engraved?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
thanks for clearing that up. But again...its just delay after delay.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
Regarding the software updating, that *might* be true. I say this because I sent my Developer Edition back for repair after I got it. I'd had a retail version, which was so good it convinced me to get the Developer Edition, and the DE just didn't perform nearly as well. I might've just returned it if I didn't have a retail version sitting next to it to show how good the device should be. So they had me send it in, and its on its way back to me, should be here tomorrow. Their notes say that no hardware issues were found, but there was a software issue and the discovered issue was "Won't download SW/PRL". The solution was that the software was updated, and then passed all functional testing...we shall see. But I wonder if some units went out with a bugged build.

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It is, I can post a picture when mine gets back from Samsung tomorrow if you want. It's under the battery.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
I'll have my own tomorrow, I was just curious today. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
Ha, fair enough. It makes me laugh that they need to engrave the units after they receive them...really seems like they should be able to just take any Note 4 and create a DE on the spot as orders come in, considering they have the tools to unlock the bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Arcolog2:
Relax guys, having a tracking number is better than another back order notification! Just be respectful on the shipping refund calls. I live in Hawaii didn't have the option for overnight obviously.

Here's to Root! :shaka:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
OMG can people please stop calling and complaining!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am sick of hearing about this!! when the note 5 or galaxy s6 doesnt have a developer edition i will be sure to thank you and the others in the thread that called demanding money back etc etc

and for those wondering it is only engraved under battery and on box it says as well
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Do you realize a $10 an hour worker answering phones doesn't make million dollar decisions for an international corporation.

Someone calls and says I paid for ______ and didn't get _______. They verify that fact, and if true they return your money. Perhaps their boss looks into the situation after multiple calls. Oh , they were not engraved. Perhaps someone was suppose to do that before they went live with shipping. If so, that employee may be in trouble. If it was something out of everyone's hands, they the cost simply gets eaten.

A super small shipping issue that causes the refunding of maybe $1,000 total isn't going to have ANY effect on a major company.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DavidMT909:
I never brought up getting my money back. I was explaining why I had ordered overnight and was not rude about it all. She brought up refunding me the money, several times. I would much rather had paid the money and had my phone today so I wouldn't have to worry about missing it tomorrow while I sleep. If it bothers you so much go get a job for Samsung. They still made their money. We still paid for the phones, and they do make profit obviously. If they can't ship overnight, it should not be an option, period. Why don't you quit getting all upset at everyone, and just be happy we are all getting these phones. It's comical this bothers you so much you have to reply to everyone that says something. You'd think the shipping refund was coming out of your pocket, lol. Take a chill pill. R-E-L-A-X.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
do you realize samsung doesnt have to offer developer edition and if they get phone calls about 10 of the 20 sold they will not waste their time?

and what you mean they are not engraved? i owned a note 3 de for 9 months i know i am talking about. and the dev ed is a .0000000001 % of note 4 sales that they could care less about why you think they take their time to sell 20 of dev eds?

no because come s6 or note 5 they wont offer it and i will be sure to find this thread and thank you for that. as another member already said they engrave them that is why it takes a little long. if you are telling me to relax then why dont you all that called relax first??????
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
So they engrave the phone with what and why?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Read back a couple posts, the words "developer edition" are engraved under the battery, aka on the inside of the phone's housing.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
just to know a developer edition from a regular note 4 and idk with what lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
You guys are still arguing about the shipping costs? Seriously, both sides, give it a rest. You're just gonna get this thread closed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Your right just a few days ago people were crying because they were out of de phone with crazy ideas like vz told Sammy to slow down De shipments etc..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
Take a look here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56367396&postcount=230
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Cool, thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Who ever said it had it on the rear cover?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
But you live in Hawaii! Lol I wish I lived in Hawaii
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
I don't know that anyone said the Note 4 would have the qi wireless charging in the back cover, but I think there were a lot of people hoping that it would. The NFC is in the battery and so is not needed in the back cover.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
Dude, you need to relax you're pissing a lot of people off with your trolling! Are you answering the phone for Samsung or something? Our shipping refunds will have ZERO effect on Samsung's decision to make a developer edition don't you worry.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
That looks like hot stamp or silkscreen not engraved

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What's qi no nfc on De?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DavidMT909:
Has the speaker improved? It looks a good size there.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
And how do you know they dont effect the developer edition? are you working for them or something troll??
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Improved over the note 3? Yes.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Agreed, very much so!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DavidMT909:
That's good to hear, I still have the Note 2... until tomorrow! :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
I liked the bottom position much better on the note 3 than the back of note 4 but it's still plenty loud
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ebrinkis:
Would these also be the $10 an hour peons who took the complaints about not enough DE's and helped make a new batch appear? Please, whether you complain or not, do it nicely -- you get your refund, and the workers get a good impression of DE buyers - win win.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
I know your comment is in general, but I happen to work for a major company who's middle name is customer service. The few times I ever have to complain about anything, it's more so not even a complaint. I simply question the issue at hand while being very polite and friendly, and any good employee acknowledges I am correct and fixes the issue.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
Especially if you flash this sound mod: http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/general/sm-910v-verizon-developer-sound-mod-t2945592
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] herrdrjonz:
Hey I was an idiot just waiting for them to get to me. It just let me order one. Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
Really.. you think they do this by hand at the distro center... really. They arrive there already etched.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] orcsbane13:
I ordered this morning, got a tracking number along with an email saying scheduled delivery tomorrow. I only did the free shipping. Does that mean it ships tomorrow?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DavidMT909:
Dang, I asked the right question! Thanks!!! File saved and soon to be installed!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
You're also going to want to disable the loud volume warning, which you can do with Wanam Xposed, or using one of the mods by EMSpilot found here: http://xdaforums.com/note-4/unified-development/samsung-galaxy-note-4-phone-mods-thread-t2951875.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] plainbum:
When will Vzw put the Note 4 on 5.0 Lp?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Really? Don't put words in my mouth.