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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
Same as always a dev will have to mod it and make us a rom

sent from my definitve romed kt kernel enabled de note 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Can a ROM be installed without TWRP?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
No sry

sent from my definitve romed kt kernel enabled de note 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
well technically yes it can be installed via odin. why do you not want twrp?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
How would I install a ROM using TWRP?

Can TWRP be removed if I don't like it?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
You will either have stock or custom recovery (in this case TWRP)...I can't imagine a reason to use stock over custom but if you wanted to you could always odin back to stock.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
you will like it
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] doubleplay648:
Lollipop 5.0.2

Does anyone know if there is a CM12 ROM (or any other custom lollipop ROM) that is compatible with our Verizon note 4 developer edition yet?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
I herd there was one in the works but not ready for prime time.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] airmaxx23:
Head over to the T-Mobile CM12 thread and chime in that you're interested in a build for the VZW Note 4, I did already but I think they want to see that more people are interested.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] montesn:
In Stock Again

FYI for anyone waiting, they're in stock right now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
got 1, finally!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] driggity:
I just ordered one. Not too bad of timing as the digitizer on my G2 just started acting up last week. It will be nice to be able to reliably type again.

And, with next day shipping I've already received the shipping notification.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
yup yup just ordered my second one!!!!! and really? i did the standard ground since i already have one just buying another to sell lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ilpleasu:
They have some in stock?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
yessir still do! im thinking about buying a 3rd lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] 00stephen:
Confirmed. I just purchased mine at 2:00pm EST.

(and discovered that, yes, they will assess sales tax)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Yup not cheap once they figure on the sales tax haha
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
My device is already shipped. Will get it tomorrow!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
mine shipped too next tuesday!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
You guys are gonna like them.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
I already have one!!! lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
You new guys....you will like them...read,read,read and backup everything (including aBoot) before you flash anything...it's a great phone !!!

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / StarKissed / TWRP 2.8.3.0.trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ebrinkis:
I keep hitting the website all day and it still says out of stock, what link are you using?

Thank you all for your help -- my stupidity with a cached page that still says back order! Got my second one on the way (for wife)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ljv:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910VMKEVZW
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910VMKEVZW?CID=AFL-hq-mul-0813-11000279

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i will need to do this with my new one. i never did with my current
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ebrinkis:
This is my second one too -- now my wife wants one!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
I got a Nexus to lol. Were phone slut's haha.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] munkle:
They are available to purchase again. I just bought one.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
haha i am going to buy a developer edition every time they are in stock and sell my old to always keep a new phone!

haha i had two nexus 6s. sold them though and gonna have two note 4 devs lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
I'm hearing you I'm a bit fonder of the Note than the Nexus. The Note DE is my daily driver and the Nexus is for play works for me. I'm in a crap signal area and the Note gets better resection than the Nexus
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ljv:
I'm glad to see it stock today before the January 15 return deadline. Been running the retail and can't stand not having root. Bought a couple of them myself. Now trying to decide if I want to keep one of my S5s for backup or just sell it too.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Love my DE. This is my first DE phone. The phone is absolutely amazing. I don't think i could ever get another retail phone again.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] MotorcycleMike:
Just ordered DE at 11:50 PM. I was in Verizon at 8:00 with a retail in my hand and about to make the purchase. Wasn't thrilled with the salesman so I didn't get it. I was about to go to bed and figured I would check the site. In my basket, no backorder!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
I have had a Dev note 4 for about 2 months and finally got an email from Samsung that they're in stock lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
Same here the last time they became available they never said anything.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
agreed. honestly i gotta have removable battery and sdcard that is why i had to dump both my nexus. great phone though but still cant beat my note
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nutpn:
Verizon dev device in stock

Samsung has some VZW Developer Devices in stock. Just bought mine and my wife, s. Now to sell my 64gb nexus..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
I have had a Dev note 4 for about 2 months and finally got an email from Samsung that they're in stock lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Epicardium:
Just ordered my Dev ed!

I currently have a retail version. As far as I know, I'm not supposed to notice any performance difference out-of-the box, right? Sure, I plan to root it and remove bloat. That's why I got it. But unless I do those things, it will behave the same as my retail version...right? Just making sure I'm not missing something. Some of you are talking as though this phone is on another level from the retail version (which has been pretty great for me).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
The phone straight out of the box will be the same as yours. if you sat them side by side their wont be a thing different besides maybe firmware version. Only thing that is different is the bootloader is unlocked. you throw twrp on it in odin, flash su zip, flash a rom, kernel and yes it will become a whole other beast
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] airmaxx23:
Don't forget about it saying "Developer Device" behind the battery.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
lol yes but everything looks the same unless you take battery out :P lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Epicardium:
Now we just need a transparent battery and back cover to show off that $200 label :P
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
$200 label? its the same price
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
Yep....same price now as buying outright to keep "unlimited data". I got mine first run...it was about $40 cheaper then...

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kerneled / TWRP 2.8.3.0.trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Epicardium:
Accept that I can buy a near mint condition retail version on Swappa for $550, and I just paid $750 after tax for this one. I'll have to sell my retail version for about $550, too, so it's a $200 expense for me. Not complaining though.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] derektm.:
Has anyone else's shipped since yesterday that just used the free ground UPS shipping? My order status still says "new". Ordered around 5PM central yesterday.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
Got to love supply and demand.

sent from my definitve romed kt kernel enabled de note 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
you cant do that though. not apples to apples. that is like saying a new corvette is $70k but a used one with 5k miles is $59k doesnt matter one is new and one is used.

yup i didnt order first run i was too slow on the draw lol

yes i ordered yesterday with free ground and it shipped yesterday and is in transit. i should see tuesday
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ilpleasu:
Gotta sell my retail one quick, who needs one? Lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
DE's available right now.

https://mobile.samsung.com/accessor...samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] munkle:
I ordered yesterday as well but about 1 hour after you and I don't have tracking either.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] derektm.:
Thank you.

Thanks! I called Samsung today and they told me that once UPS picked up the packages this evening, tracking would be updated online. :good:

-Derek
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jbombs16:
Ordered yesterday at 6pm est. Still not shipped
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
I ordered my yesterday and got my DE N4 today. Regular UPS shipping.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
Do you live in Texas? They ship out of Dallas...I got mine really quickly in the first round...lll

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kerneled / TWRP 2.8.3.0.trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
Yes, Houston
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
I assumed from the oilfighter...lol ! I live in Fort Worth !

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kerneled / TWRP 2.8.3.0.trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Sakete:
Took the plunge, just ordered developer edition as well. Will be returning my retail device. Will now finally be able to install AdAway. Man, I never realized how much ads all these different apps serve.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ebrinkis:
I wonder if the demand is down or what, the website is still selling / hasn't gone into backorder mode. I hope this means a permanent in stock status from now on!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
nope just means they havent sold the 20 allocated for this go around

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if anybody has any interest i made a thread about the Note Edge Developer Edition which is coming soon. i played with one last night for awhile at verizon store my friend is a manager at. interesting device lol

http://xdaforums.com/note-edge/general/verizon-note-edge-developer-edition-t2998869
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Is anyone still looking for one. I have on from day one release that maybe getting sold. Its rooted, TWRP installed and running NJ5. Work is giving me a phone monday. Has had a tempered glass protector, and a neo hybrid case since day one. its mint... if anyone is interested PM me......
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] canemaxx:
Is the model number different for the dev edition?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
I believe the number that comes on the Dev Edition box has one digit or letter different than the retail....can't remember the exact numbers off the top of my head...lol. Hardware and software is exactly the same except for bootloader unlock.

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kerneled / TWRP 2.8.3.0.trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Retail Number:N910VZKEVZW

DE Number: N910VMKEVZW
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] blubyu87gt:
Don't forget to put in for the free year subscription to Netflix that Samsung is offering for Note 4 purchases.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ebrinkis:
Details?

Nevermind, found it: http://samsungpromotions.com/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
didn't work for me, kept saying invalid IMEI. Anyone else?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] blubyu87gt:
It looks like they have 244 in stock as of right now.

Samsungs order system will let you check current stock, kind of. Just add a large amount to you cart. Once you go over current stock levels it will start putting into back order.

That's odd. I just did it for a friend's and it accepted it. His is a DE.

I have the retail version and am debating on returning it (I still have 2 days to do so) to buy the DE. Only issue is I will then be without a phone until it gets here.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jbombs16:
Purchased 1/8 around 6pm est and still not shipped. Wtf samsung
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
243 now . i just checked ha
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
Yeah...they're gonna be gone quick
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
lol nope they will never run out of stock now
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
Why?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] slapshot30:
For those of you that bought the VZW Note 4 Developer Edition, why did you choose that over the Nexus 6? Not looking to start a war or anything, but I'm on the fence and the only thing in my eyes that the Nexus has going for it is root and the amount of development it has. However, the Note 4 is seemingly better on all other fronts (screen, battery, etc). Seeing as there is a Developer Edition of the Note 4 which can achieve root, it makes it an incredibly hard decision. I'd just like to hear from some of you on why you chose this phone (Developer Edition specifically) over the Nexus.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
Here Ya go read these http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/general/note-4-vs-nexus-6-t2906800?goto=newpost
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] windstrings:
Better take some time off work first! ?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] munkle:
I purchased mine on 1/8 about the same time and mine hasn't shipped either.

I went with the note 4 over the nexus 6 for a few reason. I originally had a note 2, and I really liked it but it was a little too big for me, so I went to a droid maxx after about a year. But I updated the software to 4.4.4 which has no bootloader unlock or root and there is a bunch of stuff annoying me that can easily be changed with at least root. Of the phones I like, really my only choices are note 4 or nexus 6, nexus 6 is just too big after playing with it at the tmobile store. I really hoped their would be a droid turbo developer edition but it would have been out by now based on the previous developer edition of the maxx, also moto said they weren't doing a developer edition of the new moto x which also has me really doubting they will do one for the turbo now.

I had a galaxy nexus way back when and its battery blew so hard, after reading about the nexus 6 people say that battery life is pretty meh. I can't do that meh battery life again, note 4 has pretty good battery life.

Also the nexus 6 only has lollipop, there are some xposed mod that I really want so one more point against it and one more for the note 4. Softcard as well works on the note 4, I've actually been using it because they give a ton of free stuff, I got $30 free just for buying groceries that I would normally buy, though most ended in 2014 so the freebies maybe gone now.

I really like active notifications on the maxx/lollipop and always on voice but I'm willing to live with out those to get xposed back.

I also hate with a passion on screen buttons, I set my phone to be power button ends the call, if you are on speaker phone then it is impossible to turn the phone's screen back on with out ending the call unless you have a physical home button. Also no phone I have ever seen with on screen buttons has NOT had room for them below the screen on the bezel, so to me its just wasted screen spaces. So +1 note.

Nexus 6 can't do data and voice on verizon at the same time, +1 note.

Sd card and battery seem like a big deal but honestly in practice with my droid maxx and when I had two batteries for my galaxy nexus, I never switched batteries and an integrated one has done me fine.

Honestly though if there were a turbo developer edition I would sell the note 4 in a heart beat, but it looks like that isn't going to happen, and moto has that phone locked up tight just like the maxx right now on 4.4.4. So really the note 4 is kind of my middle choice, because no turbo developer edition and the nexus 6 just really is underwhelming.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
I think slapshot knows the answer to his own question but he was just trying to have a little fun.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
I will shoot straight with you. I've had two nexus 6 & had note 4 developer edition for months. Both nexus 6 are gone and I have a second note 4 developer on the way. Here is my verdict on the phones and why I have two note 4s.

Nexus is superior phone to note in most aspects of software. Android 5.0 lollipop is downright addicting of how fast it is. It is like lightning and smooth as butter. But on the flip side nothing in the software helps you fully utilize the full 6" screen. Nexus won software in my book it was so fluid I didn't need multi window etc. Next up on the nexus is it's downfalls and ultimately what made me stay with my perfect device right now the note 4. Nexus has 32 gb or 64 gb which seems decent but I have 50 gb used out of my 128 gb sdcard in note. So that is a huge negative to me to not have everything I want at my fingertips. Next is battery. Sure 3000 mAh is enough. WRONG! Nexus should make you throw a full 8 hour work day with a couple hours of screen on but if you go to work and then go out after that night you gotta charger it up. Not my style. I have 3 batteries for my note 4. I usually keep one on me at all times and rotate the third in and out (I know I'm anal about my phones lol) anyways I love going from 10% to 100% within seconds. Sure the turbo charger is great with nexus but can't beat 0-100% with a battery swap. Not to mention note 4 also has same adaptive fast charging and larger 3220 mAh battery. Ultimately if battery and sdcard are no big deal to you nexus is way to go honestly. Note removable battery, sdcard and slightly better radio all won me over. Not to mention I love the design of both but note edges it just barely. Sidenote is note 4 camera is going to be hard to beat. Not saying the nexus camera is straight junk but it isn't on the same level as the note. Hope this helps you man. Any specific questions you have about either phone just let me know I ran nexus 6 on Verizon and note is my daily right now with another note on the way so anything on either phone I can probably answer for ya whether it be features, root, roms etc anything just yell
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
For me it was partially a race to who would sell it to me first...but I was also a little skeptical of the Nexus as Verizon still hasn't officially announced support for it so while you can chop down your SIM or convince Verizon to give you a new nano sim at the store it's not in the lineup yet.

I was also concerned with the lack of simultaneous voice and data until VoLTE gets rolled out for two reasons. One, my guess is that roll out is going to suck...lots of dropped calls in version 1.0 for the foreseeable future. Two, until Verizon is officially supporting the Nexus 6 who knows how using VoLTE will work. Will a device a bought from Motorola or the Play store definitely be able to take the Verizon specific VoLTE upgrade? Maybe, maybe not...and while the dev community would probably figure it out I just didn't want to deal with worrying about that for the next six months. Plus I like removable batteries....while you might not need it often because the battery life is good on both, it is great to have when you do need it. I will say I think the N6 looks cooler...N4 is a little utilitarian.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] JoshDi:
It's now back in stock! Bought one and sold my original note 4 on eBay. Once the DE version arrives, it's time to sell my old note 3.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
I chose the note 4 over nexus 6 because of the build and hardware. Nexus 6 feels like a fake/toy phone to me after having the note 4...nexus wins on the software side though. But nothing says we can't have a CM12 in the future on the note 4 with unlocked bootloader:)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
I have both devices and even though the hardware specs are almost the same they are two total different phones, mainly because of software and storage. The battery size on the nexus is the same as the note 4 and not 3000 mAh as previously mentioned. I'm able to achieve the same great battery life on the nexus 6 as the note 4. I get 6 plus hours of sot on both devices. Both phones are great, imo, and it just comes down to personal preference. I personally give the edge to the nexus 6, better media experience (front speakers ftw), lollipop, and straight butta!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Good point I was wrong it is 3220 same as note and you shouldn't have said that cause I'm really disappointed with nexus battery life now haha and front facing speakers are legit on nexus though
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
My 2 cents: At the time I had to make a purchase decision Verizon had not yet announced they would carry the Nexus 6, but it was commonly understood that they would, they just hadn't said WHEN. Secondly, I held both in my hands and the Note 4's superior feel and appearance is apparent. Third, I wanted a removal battery and sdcard. Fourth, I don't use the S Pen often, but there are times when I really like what you can do with the S Pen and last but not least, multi-tasking/split window...I use it all the time. Processor and memory are normally a big consideration for me, but in this case it was a wash.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] slapshot30:
I promise that was not my intention, but I really appreciate those of you who gave thorough feedback. I'm glad it can be discussed in a civil manner unlike that thread in the Nexus 6 forums. So how long is this stock of Developer Editions going to last?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Another question that you know the answer to.

The inventory will last until it runs out.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
it will take forever they are down to 230 now lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jfriend33:
where does it say how many they have in stock???

I am a little more confused now after reading these last few posts. I was under the impression that battery life on the nexus 6 was not so great. So i was possibly leaning towards one of these....Coming from my droid maxx and g3, the note 4 would be better for swapping batteries.

I really just want a droid turbo with root!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pitbulledEvo:
I'd like to see where it lists how many are in stock, also. This is only available through Samsung, correct? Thx

Sent from XDA Premium HD app
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
That is correct. The Note 4 Developer Device can only be purchased from Samsung, unless of course if you find someone selling theirs on Swappa or Ebay etc.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
im selling one of mine if you are interested pm me before i put on swappa
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] blubyu87gt:
From the info page you add to cart. When in the cart change the quantity amount to 250. It will update the amount in quantity to the number of remaining physical stock and put the rest in a backorder state.

They are at 220 as of this posting. So they are selling right around 22 a day.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
down to 218
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jfriend33:
I'm sure they will make more. Where does it say once they are gone they won't make more?