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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aussiepunk:
If you want a more stock Android experience you should ask for a Google Play Edition of the phone. We could start a petition to see if Samsung/Google would do it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fz798:
the precious.... it's here. the precious is miiiiiiiine

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Well, call me brave or stupid, I am very happy to report that openrecovery-twrp-2.8.1.1-trltetmo.img.tar flashed and boots recovery!

SU comin' up next, hopefully.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tu3218:
Well that's good but I certainly wouldn't call someone who understands bootloaders, roots, and custom recoveries, "general users". I mention those terms to my friends who are general users, and they have no idea what I'm talking about.

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Ahhhh that's what I'm thinking of!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpcalhoun:
LOL, yeah I know what you mean. I don't really understand all that much about them either.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fz798:
Anyone know why Samsung decided to go back to a USB2 connector rather than stick with USB3 as with the note3?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kevins89notch:
Please forgive my ignorance. So the unlocked bootloader will make rooting it easier, correct? Where does knox fall into this picture?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manbat:
============

What version of SuperSU did you try?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fz798:
Latest...

I'm doing a nandroid now, and posted in the auto-cf thread the question of will the tmo flavor possibly work?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56369828&postcount=455

I'm itching to try... if it fails, theoretically, couldn't I just re-ODIN this TWRP then restore the nandroid?

I'm thinking yes, anyone less chickenshiz than me to try that?

Hey, I took the first step for the TWRP leap... someone else can try the tmo autocf :P
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manbat:
When reading thru the Sprint thread people were using the TMo at first and it was loading the TMo recovery to the Sprint Note 4s...if I remember right. But it did root the phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EMSpilot:
CF Auto-Root SM-N910V Dev Phone Only

CF Auto-Root SM-N910V Dev Phone Only

http://download.chainfire.eu/590/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-trltevzw-trltevzw-smn910v.zip

Chainfire built this for me!!!

I do not get my Dev Phone until Friday!! So not tested yet!!

This is a new link from Chainfire!! Please test and advise
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jam2315:
Mine isn't here yet either bt good to see root is in the works :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Boss428man:
I think recovery has been done see in: http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon...eveloper-edition-t2914717/page26#post56372335
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fz798:
Rooted, with TWRP, and the Verizon boot animation KILLED.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mibuix0r:
Did you use that chainfire root with that TWRP you mentioned earlier? I am so excited now I still haven't gotten my tracking # yet though :'(

EDIT:

found instructions in other dev thread

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56378728&postcount=295
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] holycow1:
Quick question, and I think I already know the answer, but can I get confirmation that flashing a custom recovery trips the Knox flag? I know that a custom kernel will, but just checking on the recovery.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Boss428man:
Yah we have two parallel threads going. We really need to have one of the MODS make a Developer only chain where we can consolidate and make an instructions page, etc.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mibuix0r:
WOOOOOOO got my tracking # :good::laugh::cowboy::highfive::p
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manbat:
bigbiff just answered me in his tmo thread...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=56384907
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpcalhoun:
Yeah, I agree. I think the recovery, root and ROM stuff should go in the Android Development Section and the Unified "stuff when that starts to happen go in the Original Development Section. There is a section for developers, but that doesn't apply to most of us.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Boss428man:
I just messaged Kenny asking for a Developer Edition, Development thread. I'm hoping for the best. Anyone who wants to write him also might help. His username is KennyG123 and he is the Note 4 MOD.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] urmcgwy:
Yeah that would be nice. All the details of how to install TWRP, root (install SU), and enable card writes is on the Galaxy Note 4 Developer Edition thread in the Galaxy Note 4 General forum.

Sent from my unlocked and rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 4 DE!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jam2315:
Ok so it's done? Didn't take long lol. Now just wait for rom development :):):)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachchen1996:
Definitely excited for the rom development part. Do you think there will be a chance we will get a lollipop rom?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] windstrings:
Plus you will not get over the air updates for improvements for later versions of course you don't get the bloatware either.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jfriend33:
I would just get a Nexus 6 then. Unless you demand a removable battery and expandable storage.

Just me personally, but if I made the jump to a note series why would I not want the note functionality?

Then again that spen would be great for copy and paste or just drawing. Who knows....

Sent from my unlocked consumer edition Motorola Droid Maxx xt1080m.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vlip3:
I was talked into a Note 2 by a coworker a. Couple of years ago. I upgraded to a Note 3 last June and now I'm looking to get a Note 4. I'm definitely hooked on the note series and can't imagine giving up my stylus. I even got a Note Pro 12.2 tablet. Again, I can't see myself ever getting anything else. But, I'm not looking forward to lollipop. I read somewhere it was going to enforce encryption and that it affects speed. I have an encrypted laptop for work and the speed drain is quite noticeable. Unless they make it an option, I am not going to taking that upgrade.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tom1226:
Hey, not sure if you've seen by now, but Lollipop in and of itself does not force encryption on devices that don't originally ship with it. The Nexus 6 is encrypted by default, but devices that got updated (i.e. Nexus 5, Moto X 2014) have the option to encrypt, but it isn't required. Plus, with an unlocked bootloader you can turn encryption off even on the Nexus 6.

Did you end up getting your Note 4 yet?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stueycaster:
I just back ordered a Note 4 DE on the Samsung site. They said it should be in stock sometime within the next 4 weeks. I was wondering if anyone knows about when they ran out of stock. Maybe that would give a better estimate of how long it will be.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpcalhoun:
They had some in stock a couple of weeks ago so they haven't been out for long. Just a recommendations: From my experience and other Note 4 DE users, you should probably check that site daily to see if they are in stock. They don't have a good record of notifying people with back orders when the phones are back in stock. There have been several instances when users have had the phone on back order and was never notified. The problem is when they get them in stock people scarf them up before the back orders get filled. I didn't have that experience this time with the Note 4 because I was able to get in on the initial stocking before they ran out, but I back ordered a Developer Edition S5 about a year ago and still haven't been notified. I just happen to check their site one day and saw they were in stock so I ordered one.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stueycaster:
Thanks for that man. Since I know that I'll probably be checking 3 or 4 times a day. :cool:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matttrix:
I was never notified.. Since black Friday backorder request.. I kept a eye on things and bam it happened took advantage.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stueycaster:
I've been watching this for 2 weeks now. I was beginning to think it had been 3 or 4 weeks. Grrr! I hate waiting.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mva5580:
So am I reading this right in that it's basically pointless for me to do the backorder? I was highly considering picking one of these up and I could deal with waiting the ~4 weeks, but from what I see here this system doesn't even notify you when they're available?

If that's the case, why do they even allow you to do it?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
i will be buying one asap because i think next shipment in stock will be with lollipop
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LagunaTechie:
The CM 12 roms that Mod57 has been putting out recently are sure nice. I wouldn't worry what comes stock.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stueycaster:
I'm not waiting for them anymore. I just bought a Note 4 DE from an individual here on XDA. I'll have it in a couple or three days. It should be fun. See ya around.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
yes but that isnt touchwiz lollipop and who knows if current bl on de can be upgraded to lollipop bl when update drops. there is a whole bunch of stuff to consider
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oilfighter:
there's no point in that stupid waiting list thing. I remember signing up to be notified of stock and never heard a peep from them. Just do yourself a favor and check once a day.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stueycaster:
I got my N4DE. I'm really digging this phone. Poke around the forum. I've seen a couple other guys offering to sell one.

Update: check the "Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Developer Edition" thread.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctor-cool:
What is it good for?

What can I expect to be able to do?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
what you mean?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Boss428man:
Loss of warranty is fine for me. Fixing phones isn't as hard with all the resources on the internet these days. I mean as an example some people spend lots of money on tempered glass screen protectors when new glass is like 12 dollars. Its just cheaper to replace the screen glass and not that hard on most phones. (Not really a warrenty issue but point being the software from Verizon doesn't if ever need warranty coverage.) But seeing that mostly hardware warranty issues require days of sending back phones or this or that when parts are cheap. At least if you have less of a chance of breaking the phone with software bricking with and unlocked then locked and niether is going to be covered by the 1 year warranty. Granted not a normal thing but my friend debricked his S3 after flashing international firmware on his work phone. These phones are robust and once you get used to it not so worry some.

Anyway, If phones were cars I'd rather have my car with an unlocked hood then one that only my dealer could open. Because even though opening the hood would void the warranty, you never know when you are going to break down.

Great work fellas! Today is looking brighter.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SeanPlunk:
I have a Note 3 DE

It came stock with 4.3

Thanks to the very kind developers I was able to root, load a recovery, load a ROM and eventually move to 4.4.4 thanks to a custom kernel one of them cooked up.

I'm switching to a Nexus 6 this round though because of the lack of support from Samsung.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctor-cool:
Will it have root?

Will it have root?

I'm not a developer, I'm a amateur.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
not out of the box but if it is anything like note 3 all you had to do was flash tmobile twrp on it, flash su zip, and you are unlocked, rooted and recovery.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctor-cool:
THANKS!

Will it work on the Verizon network as normal?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
yup just like a regular note 4 from verizon with unlocked bootloader
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] igknight:
More than I want to spend, but with VZW canceling my Note4 pre-order (and me not sure if I want it from what I've been reading), this may be a better option than the Nexus 6 (if it comes out for VZW).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
it will come to verizon. only verizon and i spent $733 on a verizon one off contract so this is well within my range :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] windstrings:
It is for vrzn? http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910VMKEVZW

I just talked with an absolute moron in tech support that did finally tell me there is a year warranty but he could be wrong... He didn't know anything, I asked him about root and the bootloader and he starts looking up apps. Sounded from India. Not did he know what NFC meant nor about wireless charging!... They're pretty worthless
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
yes for verizon
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jfriend33:
Do you guys think the consumer edition note 4 will get unlocked bootloader?

Hasn't it been rooted on other carriers already??

Does samsung knox make it harder to modify?

Just thinking since it's not a carrier exclusive device eventually it will probably get unlocked anyway?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
no

no

yes

no
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctor-cool:
The ture test

If it can be insured by Asurion it will be a Major Go.....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jfriend33:
Thanks. T mobile note 4 is rooted tho. Which I know is nothing like being unlocked.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wtherrell:
No

Yes

Yes

No

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T-Mo bootloader can be unlocked. Verizon not much hope.

Don't know if Devs will port to vzn Dev edition or not.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ct_tec313:
Well I'm ordering mine as soon as they are available
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] igknight:
I know that this N4 is for VZW, I was talking about the Nexus 6. VZW does not have a very good track record with the Nexus line.

I've never had a Dev phone before, my original N2 was before they locked it down (then I fell through the ice into a lake). My referb N2 that the insurance sent me was locked, but still rootable. So, the question. Do you think with the N4 being locked and possibly not rootable that developers will spend the time working on it? Do you think that they will get a Lollipop rom?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctor-cool:
This is on the MY PRODUCTS PAGE at samsung.com

Coming Soon! Samsung Galaxy Note® 4 (Verizon), Charcoal black Developer Edition

Model Number: SM-N910VMKEVZW

Complete Registration

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

The button is ready for me to register the Developer Edition Note 4

IT IS ON
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jayochs:
]meh, already ordered mine and it's coming tomorrow. i have faith in devs to be able to atleast create a root method; that's all i want. i don't need custom recovery or anything. i just need root for hotspot, ad away and titanium pretty much. hopefully someone will cook something good up.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] igknight:
Sorry, the question was more for the dev version. Do you think they will spend the time creating roms for the dev version?

All I truly want is root. I dont use any Samsung program, but use the spen all the time. Titanium, adaway, Xposed, and Xprivacy are a MUST. But, I would like Lollipop, just not on a locked bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Boss428man:
I'd love to hear from the Dev's as well.

I can imagine it is a heck of a lot easier to dev for the dev version then the regular... Just considering the S4 and S5 still haven't been unlocked..... Thats not a positive sign. However there has been rom work done on both of the Dev versions.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachchen1996:
Will there be any possibility of the Note 4 DevEd getting stock Android 5.0?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
Where is beans? I don't think he was getting another Samsung though
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
Yes I ran stock android on my note 3 dev ed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachchen1996:
Oh really? Where is the thread for that? I heard that the Note 3 DevEd didn't have much dev support though?

Hopefully the Note 4 DevEd will have decent dev support, ROMs, kernels, etc.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Boss428man:
More people that get the Dev Ed the better. We are all the community.

I'm actually thinking of learning about some basic rom building. Could be fun.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allthemalarkey19:
Does anyone have any clue when the estimated release date could be for this? I know someone earlier in the thread said their confirmation said 4 weeks, but is it possible that that's just a placeholder time frame until an actual release date is announced?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Boss428man:
No one really knows. It was discovered today out of shear luck. Once Samsung announces it we will know. I'm guessing soon out of complete assumption. Holidays are coming its 4th quarter. Time for businesses to make sales!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachchen1996:
I'm predicting that the Note 4 DevEd will be much more popular than the Note 3 DevEd and as a result have more support from devs.

I really hope I'm right as I'm almost certain I'll be selling the Note 4 I pre-ordered so I can get the DevEd.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allthemalarkey19:
Ah, well hopefully it's soon. I'm going to the Verizon store in the morning to get the consumer Note 4, but I'll happily return that one and swallow the restocking fee if the dev ed comes out within the 2 weeks I have.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidrev71:
I have a feeling there won't be much development because the retail version won't have safestrap. Since the retail note 3 had safestrap (and beans support) there were a handful of roms. Which the devs made the roms compatible with the dev edition. So hashcode is done with safestrap which means no retail roms. Which means less development opportunities for dev the edition. There may be a couple roms at some time. So a couple roms are better than none, right? Then again, Samsung may only sell a few at a time which would strangle development. Selling 40 phones in 3 months won't work. That's what happened with the dev edition note 3. Time will tell what the future holds.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ronaldheld:
Doubtful that the developer edition with be out within 2 weeks. Only if the retail N4 has no recovery might the DE get most of the attention, IMO.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
i forgot to tweet or msg beans ugh
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidrev71:
I did already. He said possibly...But was happens if Sammy sells very low quantities again? That will screw things up, imo
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
here was my everything to know thread back in the day

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2525208
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
cool cool
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Epic 4g:
Nah, I am going Google Nexus 6. The Note 3 Developer Edition really hasn't received that much support at all. There is only one OFFICIAL AOSP ROM and that is PAC. There is an UNOFFICIAL SlimKat ROM & that's it. The rest are all TW ROM's.

I am going back to NEXUS. Learned my lesson with the Note 3. I HOPE the Note 4 has better support, cause the Note 3 Developer Edition support has been lackluster at best.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidrev71:
A cool cool part is that many of the tech sites are announcing the dev edition. Hopefully, that'll help boost sales.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
yup yup cool cool LOL
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darkmx2000:
Verizon did screw the pooch when it came to the Galaxy Nexus and that was because Verizon demanded their carrier apps to be installed and when it came to the updates coming from Google Verizon basically had to take the update and install all their bloat back into the update before pushing it to the devices which ruined the whole purpose of having a Nexus device. Another issue they were having is Verizon and Sprint were CDMA whereas the Google Play variant was GSM so when do the update they had to do one for CDMA and GSM which was a pain in the ass hence the reason Sprint was getting slow updates as well.

This time around the Nexus 6 will come in only to variants Model XT1103 (US), and XT1100 (Global). T-Mobile, Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint will be getting the XT1103 which contains both GSM and CDMA radios with no carrier bloat or modifications. so all updates should come through with no problems (hopefully)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bsems1000:
So with the release of the (cheaper) Developer Edition Note 4. And that it will have an unlocked bootloader.. does this mean devs can create fully custom roms that would be compatible with our non dev Note 4's??????

Please say yes. If not, ill just sell my note 4 and buy a dev edition.

Also, why is the dev edition cheaper?? All specs are to be teh same I assume.. right?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] igknight:
No. With the normal N4 having a locked bootloader you won't be able to put a custom rom on it. Safestrap will not work, or isn't being developed anymore.

As to it being cheaper, VZW isn't touching it, so they won't mark up the price more. My guess.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allthemalarkey19:
Yes and no. *Technically* they'd be compatible with non-dev Note 4's but non-dev Note 4's don't have unlocked bootloaders so flashing custom ROMs is impossible to do until that happens (if ever).

Regarding the price of the dev edition, some people believe that price may just be a placeholder until Verizon and Samsung work out more details. There's a decent chance it ends up costing the same as the consumer edition, if not more.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
if you look i believe the google store nexus 6 has the right bands so should be good
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manbat:
Signed up for mine...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bsems1000:
Damn... this sucks. But what is safestrap and what information do we have this early that tells us it will not be developed anymore? Does this mean I have just entered a 2 year extension to be with a stock phone? :(