yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
I've purchased 2 of each DE note 3 , s5, and note 4. This actually wasn't required for the note 4 until this last batch.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] armyofsquirrels:
I thought about this too but I just made stuff up apparently I have a company called SquirrelyPatriot so no body steal that hahaha

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So I'll be getting my phone this week. How do I back this thing up so I don't brick it. I'm coming from a S4 with safestrap I saw a post about the aboot file backing that up incase you flash a retail rom and lock your phone. Also how do you tell if it's retail or DE if it doesn't flat out say only for DE.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jlavallee25:
Dev Edition Info

The phone came with the BOAF software.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
I'm jealous. "What" wasn't required???
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
The developer info section. Its always been there except the first 3 batches of note 4 des and now its back.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
Wow!! I'm glad I could get mine from a guy who switched to T-Mobile.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] blubyu87gt:
Mind posting the kernel for it?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ebrinkis:
Which bootloader, BOAF as well?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Vlip3:
I just placed my order and answered N/A and None for all those questions - thanks for the advice. What's BOAF?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
That doesn't matter. A Dev Ed has an aboot partition that unlocks the bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
Ah... I understand now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
I can confirm that the new ones are shipping with 5.0 on them. Just activated mine.

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Now I have an "old" note 4 de to sell..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] armyofsquirrels:
What is BOAF?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
Can one of you lucky guys post a screen cap of "about phone"? Mostly interested in Kernel version. Betting it's the same as retail.

Also, would like to get a copy of aboot from one of you. Want to compare 5.0 to the kk version. We had a brightness bug that might have been resolved in aboot.

Thanks!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
I'll dd the partitions tomorrow .

And a screenshot.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ebrinkis:
Maybe it does matter. Please help me learn and understand, I am still relatively new at this. This is how I think it works: It is the aboot partitition / bootloader that is individually encrypted to each phone. You can never change or upgrade the aboot partition or you lose your individual bootloader. Therefore, you will always have the same version of bootloader for the life of the phone, irrespective of which ROM you run (I am on Lollipop but still have the ANI1 Bootloader). That is also the reason that you have to be careful to only flash ROMS that don't include an aboot partition ("Dev Ed versions") or you overwrite the aboot partition and convert to a Retail version. The ANI1 and ANJ5 Bootloaders are the same, that's why the BOAF kernel needed to be modified when it came out, to make it compatible with the newer bootloader that was updated for retail version (fixing the "Brightness Bug", etc.). Here's where it will make a difference (if my logic is right): if the newest release came out with an updated aboot to match the BOAF version ROM, then all the previous Dev Ed version built Roms with the Kernel Modification necessary to support the unchanged ANI1 and ANJ5 bootloaders may not work with these new phones, necessitating 2 different Dev Ed Rom editions -- one for the kernel modified for the "old" bootloaders, and one without the kernel mods for the "new".
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
Well you may be right. My phone came with the ANJ5 rom and the ANI1 bootloader. The thing is I bought mine from an individual who switched to T-Mobile. It came to him with the rom corrupted. He had to send it back to Samsung twice for them to get it right. It might have had the ANI1 rom originally. I don't know what's going on with the newer ones.

Anyway mine is doing great with the Morom rom and the MultiSystem kernel on the ANI1 bootloader. They are both BOAF. I kinda think the kernel and rom are not really dependant on the bootloader. Of course that's just a guess on my part. Sorry I can't be more definite.

My last phone was the Note 2. It originally came with a LL4 rom on the LJB bootloader. I ended up on a VRUFND7 KK kernel and rom on it still with the original LJB bootloader. I've always been extremely careful to never take an OTA update. Ever since my Note 2 was new I've got every update on my Note 2 and Note 4 from XDA.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
Can someone let me know what the bootloader version is on your new Dev-Ed that came with BOAF?

Sent from my SM-N910V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] armyofsquirrels:
I'll try once I get my hands on it this week. I assume it'll be under the About Phone section?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
Actually no. There's an app on the Play Store called "Phone INFO *Samsung*" that gives this plus a lot of other info.

Or using Terminal Emulator input:

su
getprop | grep ro.boot.bootloader

It'll tell you what it is.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] krishaun27:
Just got my DE yesterday

Bootloader Version: N910VOYU1BOAF
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
Cool thanks.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] krishaun27:
Is it safe to downgrade to NJ5 via odin, I want to use Xposed and Im reading it might cause bootloops on stock touchwiz firmware. I am rooted with TWRP installed of course.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bagery77:
Xposed bootlooping is on Lollipop and not KitKat. But perhaps someone else can speak to whether kernel/aboot version affects this situation or not.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stillthisguy:
The following was posted early this morning. Worth a shot for those with dev eds and want to try xposed on lollipop.

[GUIDE] Xposed Framework On Samsung Lollipop ROMs
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Vlip3:
So I just ordered my Note 4 DE and it is expected to arrive Tuesday 5/26. I currently have a Note 3 running Beanstown106 Jellybean ROM (had the same on my previous Note 2) and Nova Launcher. I really, really like this ROM and Launcher combination but sadly, Beans and the AllianceROM team moved on to another platform. I'm therefore at a loss to figure out what ROM to put on my new phone when it arrives. The main things I'm looking for is (other than speed, stability and battery life) is WiFi hotspot with toggle in the pull-down notification tray and custom colors/battery icons/fonts. MS/Exchange security hack is also a BIG plus.

Can anyone point me somewhere for me to start looking? I honestly don't have as much time as I used to to spend searching all the forums and comparing ROMS. The FireKat that was developed for T-Mobile phones looked like a good option, I understand the dev had ported it to the VZW version but if my N4 will come with Lollipop (and I've read that is the case) I don't think I want to down-grade.

You all are so very helpful- I'm just looking for someone to help narrow my search. Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ebrinkis:
You can download the NJ5 rom, but the question is whether it will work with the BOAF bootloader. Best person to answer would be [MENTION=5868929]hsbadr[/MENTION] , he modified the BOAF ROM to work with the older Bootloaders and may have the best insight as to whether or not the BOAF Bootloader is backwards compatible with the older NJ5. Hope he answers...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] krishaun27:
I Odined back to NJ5 today with no problem whatsoever. Just flash the latest TWRP after that and you're good. As long as your bootloader is unlocked you can Odin between NJ5 AND BOAF no problem.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Vlip3:
Honestly, bootloaders are a bit over my head. I've been installing custom ROMs for years and have run only custom ROMs since the days of windows mobile! But, that said, I've always just followed very detailed instructions step by step while never really understanding the intricacies of what I was actually doing. Since i think I want to try Lollipop, I think I'll just follow the very good instructions in this thread on rooting the DE (I saw a post that said it would work just fine on lollipop) and then run the mod for unrestricted tether/hotspot and go from there. Maybe someone will put out a lollipop custom ROM soon. Otherwise, if I don't like that, I can try one of the KK based ROMs since you say I flash the necessary boatloads. I can ask for specific instructions on the dev forum for the ROM I choose. Thanks for the help!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
You could check out Morom.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jlavallee25:
I was also using Beans rom on the Note 2 and hadn't upgraded until the note 4. I am also looking for a ROM but one that is AOSP based. Is it possible to flash the TMO roms to our DEV edition? I have asked this in other threads with no response
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jbombs16:
There is a thread in general that has ported aosp roms.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Vlip3:
Won't the AOSP ROMs make you lose S-pen and multi-window? If so, that is not an option for me. Am I wrong?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
This is a good TW rom. I use it and I like it.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jlavallee25:
Does a sim card swap work to activate the developer edition?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
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Screen shot of DE about screen
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
I swapped the Sim from my Note 2 and it worked.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jlavallee25:
I just got my vzw dev edition and flashed the AICP build and don't have service wasn't sure if it's a settings thing or if I needed to activate it with the sim that was provided.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
I didn't know an AICP build was available. Did you try to use it stock?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jlavallee25:
No I didn't activate it until I had it the way I wanted there is a thread in the thread [http://xdaforums.com/showthread.ph...ailable. Did you try to use it stock?[/QUOTE]
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
Sent you a PM... I'd be interested in taking it off your hands. :laugh:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] armyofsquirrels:
Mine looks the same, just got it in the mail today. I was looking at Roms but I don't see any for N910V what am I doing wrong?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrSeussFreak:
Is there a root for Note 4 Dev Edition Lollipop? Is Lollipop out for the Note 4?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] CrozB:
Are you kidding? I dont even think the note 4 is out yet. ;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrSeussFreak:
There is root for the Note 4 Dev Edition, I just didn't know if the Lollipop upgrade started to roll-out, as I know it has for the S5
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ebrinkis:
In addition to the standard Samsung Lollipop, . There are several other Lollipop Roms for the Dev Ed note 4:

PopRocks has a Dev Ed Version:

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-tmobile/development/poprocks-rom-v1-tw-rom-bases-tmo-stock-t3096286

Jasmine Rom:

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/development/rom-jasminerom-v1-0-t3113771

MoRom:

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/development/morom-lollipop-tw-deodexed-lp-oaf-5-0-1-t3094727
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrSeussFreak:
Thanks, I am personally not using ROMs, so waiting for a non-ROM based solution!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ebrinkis:
Then I don't understand your question. You Odin TWRP, Flash SuperSU and your phone is fully rooted.

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/development/how-to-custom-recovery-root-t2923340

Was that what you were looking for? The post is old, and there are newer versions of TWRP:

https://dl.twrp.me/trltevzw/

Latest Beta SuperSU:

https://download.chainfire.eu/740/SuperSU/BETA-SuperSU-v2.49.zip

Don't forget to backup your aboot partition before doing anything else!

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon...-developer-t2962911/post57266915#post57266915
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrSeussFreak:
Very plainly, I was wondering if the Verizon Note 4 started having Lollipop pushed out to it from Verizon. If it has, which my phone does not have the option, is root available for the Dev Edition phone (superfluous since the phone does not have Lollipop)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
Read the general thread
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ebrinkis:
The retail version of the Verizon Note 4 has had the OTA Lollipop upgrade a while ago. The newest (currently being sold by Samsung) Verizon Dev Eds are shipping with Lollipop BOAF Rom installed. All Dev Eds can be rooted without impediment, whether shipped with KitKat or Lollipop. Dev Ed owners are able to go back and forth between Lollipop and KitKat Roms (factory or otherwise) without issues, other than there is a kernel issue adjusting brightness if the original Dev Eds shipped with the ANI1 or ANJ5 Bootloaders that requires a minor kernel modification to the stock Samsung BOAF Rom.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrSeussFreak:
Will there be an OTA for the dev edition?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bagery77:
Dev Editions do not get OTA's.

Edit: Take that back, I think I read about a couple of phones getting them on accident, but something was wacky and off in those instances.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrSeussFreak:
so that is what I was missing ;) Thanks. How does one get the official upgrade for a dev edition, google searching is not helping me out
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
You don't want the official it will lock your bootloader. Follow the instructions in the android development thread.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bagery77:
Follow the instructions here:

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/development/firmware-rooted-lollipop-update-deved-t3073561
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrSeussFreak:
Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] freebird_78:
I have an extremely noob question...

I just received my Note 4 via early Edge, and it looks like I got a second/refurb. The barcode is relabeled said something relating to it being a refurb. Ok, fine, NP.

The question that I have is, what, on the Build Number, HW Version, etc would let me know that this is in fact retail and not DE? I'm showing "BOAF" in baseband, build and config is showing B.14.SAM.SMN910V.0

Again, apologize for the dumb question, but I did skim all the Q&As, FAQs, etc to no avail.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] BladeRunner:
Remove the rear cover and the battery, if it says DEV Ed under the battery then it's a dev ed, if not then it's retail.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
I could be wrong but I think they take retail phones and make them DE. The stuff on the box is for there paper work. If you can get custom recovery and root your good to go phone should already be unlocked.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
I apologize if this is off-topic for this forum... but I don't know of a better place to ask...

Is anyone interested in selling their Note 4 Developer Edition? I'd go for a Note Edge DE, as well... but I don't think anyone has created a thread like this for that device yet.

I know I could buy one direct from Samsung for $700... but that price is out of my budget, and besides... I'd prefer to purchase via Amazon, since I've been saving up gift cards from gifts and rewards programs. Amazon charges 8% to sell electronics, so keep that in mind.

PM me if interested with the condition of the phone and the price for which you're willing to part with it.

Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jal3223:
Is anyone aware of a 4.4.4 kernel that supports multirom?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] xdadevnube:
Just a heads up, Samsung has 145 units in stock. It's hard to say whether this is the last batch or not.

The VZW GS5 dev is also available, but there are only 40 units of those.

The VZW Note Edge dev is available, with 83 units left.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
Is there any talk about an S6 Dev unit or is that not gonna happen?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] krishaun27:
How can you know how any units Samsung has in stock?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
More importantly... Do you have any knowledge of promo codes we could use to buy them at a discounted price? :D

But yeah... I'm curious as well. How do you know these things?

Also...

What's the trend (if there is one) on how long after a retail edition is released that a development edition is released? I hope I'm able to see what they decide to do with the Note 5 before deciding if I want to snag a N4 or Edge Dev Edition. Obviously... for the purpose of deciding if a Note 5 Dev Edition would be available in a timely manner.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] xdadevnube:
Simple, just go to the Samsung website, find the device, then add to cart. Change the quantity (page refreshes for each digit entered) to a higher number than they stock. They seem to get dev units in increments of 250. You can put in a big number, then your cart shows you how many of those are left in your cart and the remaining show up as backorder.

As far how long they will have dev units, it is virtually impossible to say. My hope is dwindling that they will offer an S6 dev version.

I'm curious if Verizon is *****ing to Samsung to stop the dev phone program. For all we know, these are the last VZW dev units we'll ever see. Once the quantities of the Note 4 dev get a bit lower, I'll be watching it closely so I don't miss my chance.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
Why do you think that?

Sent from my SM-N910V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
I hate to be the pessimist, but I think there's a good chance that's a safe prediction. Verizon hasn't [ever] given any reason to believe they're happy with or supportive of the Dev community, I'm on board with those that suspect Samsung pressures Big Red into allowing the Developer Editions (in greatly limited quantities) as part of the "deal". I'd not be surprised to confirm if VZW had their druthers, there'd never be another unlocked bootloader roaming the streets.

Today I took a stroll down the other carriers' Note 4 forums and imagine my surprise [/sarc] at the plethora of ROMs to be had... yet the VZW forum pretty much echoes with the Sound of Slience.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] xdadevnube:
Because its Verizon...

Their plan seems to be as follows:

Whitelist select phones with locked bootloaders on their network - already done with few exceptions

Transition postpaid customers to Edge pricing - happening

Eliminate early upgrades - already done

Eliminate subsidies - http://9to5mac.com/2015/06/01/apple...bsidies-this-month-as-verizon-changes-coming/

This pretty much eliminates UDP users and only the few will continue to buy Verizon whitelisted devices (with locked bootloaders) at full price and continue to pay the subsidy-based legacy pricing with no upgrade abilities at all (except full-priced phone purchase).

The Best Buy loophole and other UDP alternate upgrade loopholes will finally be closed

Then the only devices allowed on Verizon's network that have unlocked bootloaders will be either: old; Nexus; or Dev edition.

VZW might continue to allow Dev edition devices, but I am growing increasingly cynical that Nexus and Dev edition devices will be part of the future with VZW.

Time will tell, I suppose
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
Good trick, thanks awarded. :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
I'm just bumping the thread here to see if anyone is interested in selling their Developer Edition to me on Amazon...

Have gift cards... will purchase!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] xdadevnube:
Samsung will sell you one i'm sure
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
I can't argue that statement... but I've got a ton of amazon cards saved up... and you can only get the DE direct from Samsung.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] orcsbane13:
I've asked this before but want to ask again since it's been awhile. Is anyone else having Bluetooth issues with this phone? On mine and my wife's phone at least every other conversation the Bluetooth on our phones will shut off and then come back on. I've watched it do it several times. I'll be on the phone, my Bluetooth will disconnect as well as my watch and the Bluetooth icon on my phone will go away then come back a few seconds later. Then everything reconnects. It's done that on both our phones on both KK and LP using several different type of Bluetooth devices. I'm at a loss and am just curious if anyone else has this problem.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jal3223:
Has anyone had any trouble downgrading to kitkat on the new dev editions that are shipped with lollipop?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
I haven't flashed LP yet why are you guys wanting to go back to KK?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] krishaun27:
Not me, my DE came with lollipop but I odined down to KK a day after I got it.

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KK is more stable and flushed out. Plus Xposed works beautifully, no bootloops and phone overheating.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
What Roms are you running on KK I am still on Definitive been on it forever Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] krishaun27:
Im runnin Firekat Rom. http://xdaforums.com/note-4-tmobile/development/firekatn4v1-4-4-4-tw-anj7-extremely-t2916463 Post #3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
Thanks I saw that awhile back its a pretty much stock based ROM like Definitive isn't it?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] krishaun27:
Yes, it's very stock.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gramenz:
What version did you flash over NJ5 firmware?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] krishaun27:
Version 13
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] armyofsquirrels:
I had issues with it connecting to my truck on 5.0.1 I downgraded to 4.4.4 and its worked fine ever since. I don't have any other experience with Bluetooth besides my truck.

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Do we have any good custom roms for the DE yet? I have definitive but I'm bored with it. I'm using tapatalk and searching for Note 4 roms only brings up a few.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Any DE for sale here?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
they all sold out at Sammy?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
JasmineROM ftw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
Theres a few Lollipop roms only problem Lolopop sucks. I really don't see a lot of difference between it and KK except maybe a little faster but it doesnt make for the bad stuff. I think thats why there is a M preview out already when there are still phones that havent got LP yet.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
And that is why I'm still on kitkat
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
Wow I think I found someone who has had more phones than me lol. I tried it didnt like it and went back to KK. I am on LP on my Nexus 6 didnt have much choice. Also on Nexus 7 because there just isnt anything out there for it on KK. Kind of curious what made you dump the S6 no root or unlock or it just plain sucked was thinking about getting one. Had a G2 got my wife a G3 also thinking about the G4 how is data on it. Had almost everyone of those phones including the original droid.