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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] moralesd66:
can someone post a pic of the Spigen capsule case and phone with the holes issue. Need one to send to Spigen to get a replacement one. Also to notify them of the cross the board incompatibility with the VZW N4. Already cut mine :(

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] BBowermaster:
So my question is, is this limited to the Verizon N4, and if so, what purpose did Verizon have for moving the holes?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
guys it wont make a difference if the hole is couple mm off
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stronggeek:
Thanks!

Yep. Same here. Told my lady yesterday that I was having issues with my case. Had issues yesterday while talking to her and my son at different times and they both hung up on me! LOLS! Not like either of them. Took the case off when they called back. All good! I really thought it was my phone at first! I was a little concerned. Then this morning while I was working she could hear me fine without the case. I put the case on while working out, she called and couldn't hear me. Had to go to speakerphone. Now to drill or return? Hmm.

Didn't have time to figure it out. Now I know. Appreciate it!

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At least for me it does.

And I've decided to send it back because of this issue and perhaps it's just me, but I can't get the HR monitor

to work very easily with this case on. Hope it's not like this for all of them. I have insurance so I may be going

naked anyway.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zerodown:
Wrong, have the Spigen NEO Hybrid. With the case off, I can be heard just fine. With the case on, no one can hear me. Hole alignment does matter.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] scarygood536:
do launches usually go like this? So far the note 4 has a bunch of cases and screen protectors that don't fit. Somebody dropped the ball
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] loujennings4:
I couldn't be heard on my Spigen Neo Hybrid so I had to open the hole up with my Dremel tool.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ucsdsig13:
Absolutely correct. Was using my phone today and several callers said they could not hear me clearly. Was almost ready to exchange my device until I found this thread and checked my case. Bingo, the cutouts for the bottom microphones on my Spigen Ultra Hybrid case are not aligned properly.

Same problem with the Ringke Fusion case I purchased as well. Hoping someone manufactures a proper case soon.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] platinumyahoo:
I got the capsule and the hole is a little off, but everyone told me they hear me fine, I even talked low volume on one call to see if it affected it at all but they still heard me just fine. Im assuming because this is a soft case the sound can still get to the hole but the other hard cases it cannot.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] moralesd66:
Can you send me a pic anyway. Glad yours is fine. Thx

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
I have the neo hybrid and trimmed just a little over on the silicone portion; not the outer ring; to connect the mic to the existing whole. Came out fine.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Had a couple calls today and nobody said they couldn't hear or understand me
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mchief298:
No problem with being heard here. Do have the case issue though.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stanleybb50:
Just confirming same issue on my now useless Spigen cases! Maybe I'll drill it out... We'll see...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jmz768:
I elongated the hole in the rubber on my Neo-Hybrid and it's working fine. I'll still be getting rid of this case as I want something that offers more protection. Also, you can't use the heart beat sensor with this case.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stanleybb50:
I'm actually thinking a razor blade with the inside of the you sitting over a piece of wood to elongate... But frankly I don't like either of the cases that much anyway so I might not worry about it. I'll likely use my UAG case once it comes and the Samsung Protective Cover+ that's on it right now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zander145:
I Just ordered this case... it's from caseology so I hope it doesn't have this issue...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Currupt247:
Pics of my case with the misaligned holes :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] MrWicked1:
Holes are off on it, but haven't made any phone calls when I was using it to see if there's problems hearing me. On another note my UAG case arrives yesterday and the hole toward the left they manufactured extra big and the mics are fine with it. So it's the one I'll be using for a while.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Rippley05:
Does anyone know why the holes are in a different location on the Verizon variant? Verizon always does little bs like this
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] balla48801:
It wouldnt be verizon if they didnt mess up everything.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jmacdonald19:
Supcase FTW!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] 299792458:
Effectively blocks the right channel audio when shooting video too! I contacted Spigen via Amazon (complete with pictures) and.....crickets. I'm mad too that I ordered neo hybrid a couple of weeks before mine shipped...and I noticed it was in stock on Amazon and a few bucks cheaper....sent a msg via Amazon csr...was like, wtf? Next day mine shipped, but no msg response or refund. Again...wtf, over?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] deathshead:
^ This^
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tengtengvn:
This happens to the LG Tab 8.3. Vzw f*** with the design. It looks the same but case for the wifi version doesn't fit.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] johnchad14:
I don't have that particular caseology case, but the one I got that's the same design with the leather back seems to have the hole in the other carrier position, not verizon. I'll know for sure when my phone gets here on Wednesday. Not super concerned, I'm just going to drill a properly located hole and be done with it once I have the device to find where it's needed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcforreal:
I have this same exact case , along with the spigen tough armor. While the holes aren't perfect nobody I've spoke with has said I sounded muffled or anything.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] loujennings4:
Here's my Spigen Neo Hybrid after i took the dremel to it
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] sean9721:
I don't have a problem with my Supcase Unicorn Beatle. There was a paper saying the left hole won't line up, but that they had channels in the case for the sound to travel through. When my girlfriend called me she didn't complain about not being able to hear me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] lazer9:
Anyone with any 1st hand knowledge on this one? -> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MP3OWVI/

According to this view, the mic holes are both there, not sure if that means anything though as I might not be fully understanding the problem and this thread?

Currently in shipping, awaiting receiving it now up to Nov 6th per estimated arrival date... :eek:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bythe:
The problem is the holes are not in the right place, it cover up the mics.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tabocaw:
The supcase has the channels to allow the mics to work. Haven't heard of anyone using it yet through. I noticed the case I got from Verizon causes me to hear an echo of myself so maybe I'll try that one instead.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] azbobs:
I here ya! Mine was suppose to arrive on Monday - Wednesday, ordered from the company direct off Amazon and the screen protector back in Sept shows shipped for the last 2 weeks!

NO responses to my emails to the company. Will have to involve amazon soon, bummer! Now the worry if it will cover the mic holes on my Verizon Note 4 like others here.

Cheers

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Mine is still MIA from Amazon. ...

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Me too! No shipping info from amazon and no replies to my emails from the company

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Is yours the gold and black one?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bythe:
Well got my Spigen Ultra from Amazon, surprisingly fast for standard shipping. Now I just have to contact them and see if they will take it back and provide shipping.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] husker97:
this is the one i have. there are channels in the case to allow for the different mic psoitions. mine sounds just fine.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SUPCA...4344501&sr=8-1&keywords=supcase+hybrid+note+4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tengtengvn:
2 minutes using the cuticle nipper.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] moralesd66:
To all the Verus peeps... I got my Blue Thor case yesterday.. Its glorious!! The case covered the left mic hole but I've been able to take calls and be heard so I won't worry about it. Heard the Iron Shields are going out too... Finally!!! Pretty sure if they don't degrade signal will absolutely crush all the neo hybrids. Aluminum FTW!!

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] davefields3:
Is yours the gold and black one?

No mine is a grayish green color not black/gold
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nutpn:
otterbox has both mic hole but I canceled my note 4 order after buying it

The new otterbox defender in black I just bought has both mic holes. But I should have waited since now I canceled my note4 order and I'm gonna wait till December for a different device. So now I got a new defender otterbox in black out of the box if someone needs one. I bought it from their website. Dealtime nutpn88@gmail if you need 1 for a great deal.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Chuck_IV:
So do the cases that are being sold at Verizon stores have the correct holes? I saw the Otterbox Defender there as well as one rubberized skin like case and a Commuter like case(although it wasn't an Otterbox brand), along with the ridiculously overprices windowed folio style case.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] moralesd66:
Ordered the titanium Iron shield. Like a gunmetal color bezel.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] volrus:
So let me get this straight, not one single case manufacturer makes a case to fit the Verizon Note 4 mic holes correctly? Ridiculous, just not sure who to blame lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] boodies:
nvm
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jmurray1818:
I'm getting the OtterBox Commuter case today. Ill check the holes and post if there are any issues.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] deathshead:
Well, actually it hasn't been 100% confirmed that its just the vzw variant Note 4,

I would love to see a side by side with say a T-mobile Note 4.

perhaps Samsung screwed up when they released the specs to the case mfgs?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] moralesd66:
Think they got it right but weren't informed VZW does things their own way... As the market leader they can get away with these things at our expense.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Ed Murray:
Not true, there are several that work just fine. So far it looks like Spigen cases are affected, maybe more but "every manufacturer" is not affected.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] lazer9:
Grrrrr. So what is the consensus here. Try to get a refund on these damn cases OR get the dremel out and operate?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] LegoFarmer:
Well, when my spigen arrives, I'm fine with it because there is an outer band and the actual tpu cover, so I'll make the left hole on the tpu part bigger, and I will not have to drill into the plastic band, so it won't look any different. I personally will keep it until something better comes (With proper alignment) :P
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] lazer9:
Yea, I guess I will have to just wait and see how bad the one I ordered and pictured a few pages back actually turns out and go from there. This is getting frustrated. I'm babying this thing in my pocket awaiting a damn case that probably isn't going to fit anyhow. What a mess. Booo to whoever... Verizon, Sammy :confused:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] aldeghij:
Break out the dremel. I only had one hole covered but Google voice search worked like crap until I fixed it. Made all the other holes a little bigger in the process just to be sure. Everything is great now. Just seemed easier to fix it than to send it back.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] coastieET:
I love my Perfect Fit case. Doesn't cover the bottom or top so I don't have this issue. First Spigen product I've owned and I'm happy with the quality of their product, especially for $8
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fillyo:
Like those cases too, however, if you take off a lot, or even if you don't, those seem to scratch the sides of the phones
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] floot_roops:
I wonder if the TPU based cases (the Spigen cases have a TPU inside piece with a hard shell over it, right?) have a harder time because of the malleable material that might form a snug blockage over the mic.

I have a Ringke Slim case on which covers one of the mics but doesn't seem to affect outgoing call audio. The case is a relatively stiff plastic shell, so I wonder if there's enough gap that sound can still make it to the mic. It's just a thought, and I also wanted to let people know that the Ringke seems to function fine despite the offset speaker hole.

This is really obnoxious overall, though. I don't really blame the case manufacturers. Who would have thought that the Verizon version would be different (well, the cynical part of me says we all should've known that Verizon would mess things up somehow). It's unfortunate because we'll not know whether a particular case will be compatible or not, and if manufacturers have to alter their production process just for the Verizon models, we'll likely get less overall case options compared to the other Note 4's.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Rippley05:
I have this case too. I've had this style for as long as they've made them. The one for the Note 4 isn't snug tho, you hear it when gripping the sides
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] coastieET:
That's weird, mine is almost too snug. Took me a minute or two to get it off its so snug. Factory mold tolerances may be to blame?

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Yeah I had no idea the VZW model was different (besides the CDMA radio of course) Strange the mic holes would be different considering there isn't any notable change in hardware between VZW and the other carriers. When the G2 came out they had the buttons changed and with the included qi charging feature it forced LG to change the design a bit so that phone was understandable.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] klemono:
I had to drill a hole at spigen capsule case
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bythe:
lol did you miss the first time? hey I'm in d.c. area too.

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Well, unless you get them to pay for shipping for return, I don't think it's worth it to go through the hassle. I would either sell it locally or drill it, it's going to be hard to get it right if the case is not clear.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] volrus:
I haven't heard of a single case, other than one that doesn't cover the bottom of the phone where the holes actually line up properly. Have you?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] husker97:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00MP...200_QL40&qid=1414463318&sr=8-1#ref=mp_s_a_1_1 this one actually works. It has channels cut in the case for the mics. It will fit any version.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wizzlewizzle:
Spigen customer service is terrible. They haven't gotten back to me. I'm about to drill a hole.

-Wizzle
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Chuckleb0ne:
Besides the SUPCase are there any other cases that don't have the microphone problem? I need to get a case ASAP.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mademan420:
Otterbox
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] moralesd66:
Buy the Spigen Thor. The case is simply perfect. HR monitors works flawlessly and even though the mic is covered... Has been a non issue for the past 6 days. Check it out... SPIGENS got nothing on em.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] klemono:
Lol I didn't miss I was trying to flattened the hole with hot needle:) good to see you are from DC
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] il buono:
I think you mean Verus Thor [emoji3]
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] xxmelissaxx:
Tmobile user here! I have the spigen strong flex tpu capsule, everything is fine here no complaints from anybody, here's the pictures you requested.. Sorry for the picture quality
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] xxmelissaxx:
Pictures.. Sorry didn't upload right
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] xxmelissaxx:
Got one of with the case on..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Sean Z:
Am I the only one here with a smart cover? Lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] moralesd66:
You are absolutely Correct!! Verus Thor thank you!

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jmm22:
I want the LED wallet, the smart cover is my #2 if the wallet is too expensive.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Night_Watcher:
Pre-ordered... No issues.. They include a read me piece of paper in the package explaining why theirs works for all carriers... A sound channel... Can say have used for a number of calls and has been clear.. I have not dropped but feels like it will handle well...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jolly_roger_hook:
I got a spigen neo hybrid case even with the holes in the wrong place I had no problems making calls no issues with people hearing me or me hearing anyone else
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Ed Murray:
My caseology case is fine. Otterbox seem okay and more are listed in this thread.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] heystek:
Same here. Still waiting on a response...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] lazer9:
Appreciate the feedback! I also pre-ordered this case specifically for the belt clip addition along with the presumed case quality. Originally Amazon showed my shipping date at the 24th of this month but for some reason it's stuck "In Transit" with a new date Nov. 6th. doh... :p
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] androidman0225:
Tough armor case came in. It does look like 1 hole is not lined up. Tested it and voice quality on either end is not effected. FYI.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] 299792458:
Check speaker phone mode and record a video...both will be affected.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] androidman0225:
Just did regular call again with my wife and speaker phone no issues on either side did video test no issues at all. Maybe I am missing something lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The Black Droid:
Pre-ordered the Tough Armor in September. People keep asking me to repeat myself. I ordered the Verus Thor a few days ago since it has the best reviews out of any case available right now at it's price point. Have since filed a claim with Amazon/Spigen.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Chuck_IV:
Picked up the Incipio DualPro from a Verizon store tonight. It fits perfectly. The left side mic hole is elongated/bigger to account for the Verizon Mic hole, so the hole remains exposed.

I was going to get the Otterbox Commuter, but everyone was out of it but this case is very similar... 2 piece hardshell plastic cover over a rubber interior piece. I actually like this better than the Commuter since the Incipio isn't as bulky.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] coastieET:
Incipio dual pro is a great case. I had it on my LG G2 for a long time. I almost bought one for my Note but wasn't sure if I even wanted that much bulk. Need to see it in person.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mademan420:
Thinking about getting this one myself. Got any pics of it on the phone? TIA!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rushless:
I ordered one of the thin cases that has corner protection, but but open top and bottom to avoid the issue.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Chuck_IV:
I can drop a few pics tonight. I'm at work now and the case is on my phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] lazer9:
Just wanted to update. I received this case yesterday. Has built in screen protector and belt attachment clip. Working fine despite hole alignment issue as discussed in this thread regarding cases. They even send a little note with it as to why their case works even with Verizon as it contains a channel at the bottom to allow the mics to receive audio properly despite the alignment. I tested with "OK Google" - "S-Voice" and an actual call and all is fine.

Only thing I don't like and didn't realize is they made the belt clip (non-swivel) and it makes the phone sit up and down vertical. I am used to being able to swivel it horizontal at times such as when driving, ect...

Pleased with it overall and would still recommend. :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The Black Droid:
It seems that Verus has removed Verizon from their list of compatible devices with the Thor case. I just ordered it a few days ago, and not only have they removed Verizon, but they also raised the price by $3. Can anyone confirm that this case is working well with the Verizon Note 4 variant?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jmurray1818:
Otterbox commuter works great. All the mic holes line up perfect. No issues so far.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] moralesd66:
The Thor works fine. I have the blue as my daily goto case.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Ed Murray:
Same here. My tough Armor case's right hole lines up, but not the left. Works fine for me. I have a ghostek blitz on the way. Curious if it will work. The two I have so far are not thin enough. Anyone know from experience if the perfect fit spigen case is any good?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bdraulston:
I have the Spigen case and the holes do not line up. I had ordered it before this issue was known. What I did was use the smallest drill bit I had and drilled new holes. I added one hole on the left so the mic lined up and one hole on the right for symmetry. I also drilled out the existing holes with the same bit so everything looked the same. Everything looks factory. For the rubber behind the plastic band, I noticed that the drill would go through, but wouldn't necessarely open up a hole. For this I used a needle and a lighter. I heated the needle and melted the holes in the rubber. It doesnt look the greatest, but it is under the plastic band and not seen. Others did have trouble hearing me before I did this. No complaints since.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] deathshead:
So, has anyone determined if this is a Verizon phone variant issue or the Case manufacturers screwed up?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] coastieET:
If you look carefully the mic hole has a different offset on all the variants, just Verizon has the largest offset from center.

Sent from my VZW Note 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] crowmallet:
I ordered this case (Spigen Tough Armor Case SGP11139) a week before i received my phone. It works great and fits perfectly, and all cutouts as well as both mic holes line up on my VZW note 4 just fine

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MAWQU14/

I'm not sure how I got lucky with mine. Seems like many others got screwed and got misaligned holes.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] 299792458:
Received email response finally:

Thank you very much for your purchase with us and I am sorry for the inconvenience you are experiencing.

We have tested the Note 4 cases and while the cases are compatible with most domestic carriers (T-Mobile, AT&T, Sprint..etc) and all International versions of the phone, it looks like Verizon variant of the phone has the mic in slightly different location.

Our developers have reviewed this variant and created a universal version of the TPU that will fit the Verizon version of the phone better!

We will be able to ship out this TPU to you within 1-2 week time frame.

Thank you so much for your patience and for letting us know of this variance so we can assist you more promptly.

Once the replacement package has processed out, you will receive a separate email notification.