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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
They push a $1 charge to check the card or something, occasionally it goes haywire. Mine originally hit my card for the $1 charge 7 times and my CC company flagged it haha. I just had to call in and tell them yes, I'm buying an expensive device from Samsung, but I really just want one. That $1 is just to check the card, it drops off once the transaction is confirmed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Yeah, I know how cards normally work, I've just never see 4 charges like that before. As long as they disappear, all is well. :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Mibuix0r:
hehe I got 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tynman11:
Sorry if this is off topic, but what kind of protection plan do u get with a dev edition? I'm assuming the Verizon one would only replace with non dev right?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
You get a 30 day warranty from Samsung. Verizon won't do anything since you didn't buy it from them. I'm unclear on how something like Assurion would work with device replacement tho.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
My old note 3 was bought via swappa and I had insurance on it via Verizon. I will likely stop by in a couple days and verify and get more specifics though.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
Yeah, if you're paying for the extra insurance through Verizon I'm sure the device is replaceable that way. But you'd almost certainly get a retail and not DE.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] trapperjohn:
Samsung has a protection plan that you can add to the cart. With that you should get a dev replacement
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
You will definitely get a retail and not a DE.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
I'm holding out hope that sbreen will port Hyperdrive over to the Note 4 DE. All the functionality, none of the bloat. Love it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
I would check that the protection plan is applicable to the DE because it isn't listed as being so on the plan page.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
I feel like Samsung will never offer another developer edition after this.... :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
at which point you swappa that away and hunt down another developer edition. :) Or perhaps if you smashed your phone in 5 months, the normal note 4 will be rooted by then, so you simply take your standard note 4 and go to town on it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
Their fine print doesn't mention this but Assurion will, in the event it is unable to replace your device with a model you deal comparable, reimburse you for the full purchase price of a device you buy as a replacement minus the deductible, up to $1500-$2000 a year in claims depending on your state.

The only issue you may have down the line is picking up a DE if it no longer is for sale.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tynman11:
So called samsung and they don't cover DE under protection plan. Stinks, kinda second guessing now because I'm sure something hardware wise will go wrong eventually. I went through 4 or 5 s3 phones over the last few years with failing screens, overheating, etc. All running stock.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] RedCrow101:
So if I go this route, I shouldn't worry about not being able to flash a stock, rooted rom that is updated to whatever the latest version of Android is? I've had an Atrix 4g, Note2, tablets and Nexus 5 that I've flashed different Roms too, so I'm not a total Newb, just new to the developer device and Verizon.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
We should be ok, theres already a dev of one of thr tmobile roms that has said he'll look at porting his work over to us. It's a stock rooted debloated rom.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] RedCrow101:
I wonder if credit card extra warranties (all the majors include an extra year of manufacturers' warranty on purchases made with that card) apply to this, giving you an actual year warranty?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
Anyone get a tracking number yet? They claim if you choose the overnight shipping order by 4pm you'll get your device next day...anyone know how true this is?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Poloasis:
4pm Pacific time I presume, 7pm Est.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Qzic:
Ordered at 8:30am PST with overnight shipping and no tracking number yet.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
Yeah I ordered at 12:30pm EST nothing yet. I keep checking the website! It better be here by Wednesday cuz I'm going out of town wed night
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
The last HyperDrive ROM for the VZW Note3 was just such a port. While it did work, it was not without issues. There were a few quirks here and there, particularly around the settings app. Moreover, and for me, was off-putting enough to regret making the jump from Hyperdrive RLS7 to RLS8 for this reason, was the fact that because the base was from another carrier, there were sh1t-tons of "extra" files/apps which either didn't apply to VZW or for whatever reasons [of mine] I didn't want or need. Even after weeks of gradual grooming/tweezing, I still felt like there was chaff left in that ROM that didn't need to be there. RLS7 was nearly perfect, and RLS8 seemed like a sacrifice of clean and tight just to get a few more tweaks in.

And then I tried Alliance. :)

My greatest wish for the VZW Note4 DE is that the Alliance team cook us up a native-based ROM. I'm not saying a T-Mo ROM couldn't be ported cleanly enough as to be indistinguishable from a VZW one, but it does seem like a tall order. Maybe as tall or taller than asking for a VZW AllianceROM but I am hopeful.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
No tracking here. I'm actually hoping mine gets messed up and not shipped until tomorrow thus I get it Wednesday. Then I can call and get the $20 shipping returned, and I still have it before the holiday weekend.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] niets1:
I have 6 1.00 Dollar charges .
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
I hope that's not the case, but I'd be lying to say I didn't have the same fear.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pentafive:
You get a 1 year warranty per Samsung's site: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/service/warranty/SM-N910VMKEVZW. Some people have posted a manual that says 30 days, but I am sticking to their website since that is what was shown to me when I paid for the device. I printed a copy of it and plan to keep it with my receipt. :D

As for the insurance coverage, what ever phone the SIM is in when the loss happens is covered. So if you have Assurion coverage via VzW today just move your SIM over and you are covered. Save the receipt from when you paid for the phone. Assurion won't directly replace the device (they don't stock DE phones) but will reimburse you the full price for a new phone. I know this due to experience (wish I didn't!). Once I sent them a PDF of the receipt they sent me a check in the mail next week. Had the new phone and check in hand way before the credit card bill arrived.

-Pentafive
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
Lol I wouldn't mind that either
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fx3s:
Ordered 5 minutes ago...Crossing fingers. :eek:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] LagunaTechie:
I ordered at 8:43 a.m. pacific time and I still have no tracking number. If it doesn't come tomorrow Samsung better be expecting an angry phone conversation.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Checked my account this morning...still showing backorders for 10/23 and 11/1...tried to buy online on my PC...still showing backordered. Left my laptop at work tonight and randomly tried on my Note 2, when I got home, worked like a charm. Got 2 $1 charges and the full price + overnight shipping showing as pending charge on my AMEX. Now we all get to wait and see if it ships.

Guess I can stop following the Nexus 6 forum ha ha.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
Just a caveat to add: You must have made one outgoing phone call with the device while it was on your line to qualify.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jam2315:
Yea still no tracking info for me either. Seriously doubt we get these in hand tomorrow bt I sure do hope so. Going ahead 2nite and making sure Odin is ready and have the files I need to get root and recovery on this thang :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DavidMT909:
I've had the files and everything saved on my computer for weeks, lol. Good idea. So now that even more of us will be having these in the next few days, are we going to get a dedicated thread for the DEV edition? Sucks having to sift through all the other threads.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jam2315:
I hope we do. :thumbup::thumbup:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Just ordered as a guest as I couldn't log in for some reason and then I screwed up the email address yahoo was spelt with one o so no email confirmation.

I will call tomorrow.

Anyone know if Foxfi wifi tether works?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jam2315:
Yes from what I've read it's even working on retail version. On the dev u can always just used xposed and tether module and use the native tether toggle. At least that's what I read. Someone else may shed some definite light on this tho
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
FoxFi works on a normal, non-rooted Note 4., but I'm not a fan of it. It makes you toggle on mobile hotspots, and also requires a pin or pattern lock screen.

On my Note 3 I used a non-google play store app I got from here on xda. It was called "wifi_tether_v3_3-pre2.apk" It worked awesome. I'll be attempting to install that again, as I still have the apk from an old titanium backup run I did over a year ago.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Well I will have to try it as I don't want to root the phone as the tivo streaming app will not work if the phone is rooted.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
I had an app on my note 3, root cloak or so, that made certain apps that check for root to not be able to see that the phone is rooted.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
My phone is lagging a little bit. She maybe going back.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Root cloak doesn't work.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Huh. It did to get my ISIS banking app, now called Softcard to work.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
We are talking about the root cloak from cydia? People have talked about that on the Tivo community. I think the Tivo app really checks root at the root level.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
No clue as my Note 3 was wiped and sold a month ago.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Any trick to activating, or can I just pop the MicroSim from my VZW Note 2 and profit?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
You can just pop that sim in and go to town.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
As long as it's the same size sim just throw in and good to go
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Sweet. Thanks

Time to save TiBu to Dropbox for when my device arrives.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
No sdcard??
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
=======

Works for me....

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Rooted / TWRP 2.8.1.1 trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
I have an old, slow 32 GB card in my Note 2...ordered a class 10 Samsung 64 GB as an upgrade. Could swap cards to get started but Dropbox works pretty well...plus its probably a good idea for me to have an external backup.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Oh ok gotcha I'm looking to upgrade my 64 for a 128 soon
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
My note 3 had a Sandisk 64GB I bought for it. It worked flawlessly. The moment I put it in my Note 4, it had problems. I grabbed my GoPro's Sandisk 32GB, and it worked just fine. I checked the 64 in my computer and it's fine. IT IS the phone. I just ordered a Samsung 64GB for $25. It better work!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
The TIVO streaming app works???
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
Don't use TIVO....and on a couple of apps I have to use an older version of the apk. Since root cloak is not being updated any more....eventually it might not work for me. The way apps that don't want you to have root detect it...keeps getting better.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
I don't need root if the foxfi tether works. But if the tivo app works but I dont like it I will then root.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] herrdrjonz:
Still Nix

Ordered my DEV on 11/6 and checking status shows nothing more than 'backordered.' Think I'll just give my retail to my wife and take her Note 3 and root it. I just can't stand all the popup ads all over the place.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
go here and order it fresh forget the backorder

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910VMKEVZW
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
It's a good idea to read up on this thread and ordering dev edition phones. You don't have an order placed with Samsung that will be filled when they become available. Their backorder with dev edition doesn't mean anything. All you had/have to do is Google, Verizon Samsung galaxy note 4 developer edition. Then you'll find a link directly to the phone. Just like the link above.. Idk man..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
Yes by back ordering, you did not buy one. They are not saving one. You will not get one unless you add to cart and buy.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] 90beater:
I'm glad I have been keeping up with this thread. I ordered one today.

After having a fully rooted Note2 for the last couple of years I couldn't go back to a locked device.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrSarcasmo:
I've had one on back order. I come to this thread today, click the link and order one for delivery Wednesday. Nice. Once that arrives, I'll delete my back order. I too have a fully rooted Note 2 and there is no way I'm going back to a locked phone. Once Lollipop is released, there will be no more root according to Chainfire. This is our last chance for a while for the Note 4 to root. Time is ticking quickly away, folks. Act now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
5.0 was rooted as of a couple days ago on the Nexus 6.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
As I go to bed with no emailed tracking number yet, I will not be holding my breath for getting the phone today. I expect an email with a tracking number showing it will be here Wednesday, at which point I'll be calling and getting my $20 back.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Poloasis:
Exactly
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] triton302:
Placed my order just now, let's hope it actually ships soon.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
No tracking number yet! I'm starting to get a little unhappy... I mean why promise overnight if you can't do it?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
what time did you order?

and samsung always takes their time.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Mibuix0r:
I got the regular shipping and ordered around noon yesterday. No tracking number yet but I will be out of town till saturday anyway :p
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] igknight:
My order confirm email came in at 1:20pm EST on 11/24/14, next day delivery, no tracking. I did get a call from my bank about 30 minutes after the order too.

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WOOT! And there is my tracking!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] JKforUA:
I was just about to post and ask if ANYbody had gotten their tracking number yet... Hopefully I will get mine soon.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
Just got my tracking number!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] HotLZ:
I just got my shipping notification and tracking also. I ordered yesterday at about 11:00 AM CST for overnight, but it will not show up until tomorrow. Is it worth a call trying to get my $20 back, or did I order too late to expect it next day?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mattdb:
Just got my tracking info as well but get this wont get here til tomorrow even though I ordered before 4pm yesterday est and overnight.

And the tracking number is just a label Not actually shipped yet.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
I just got mine. It's shipping today for delivery tomorrow. I ordered yesterday. My email confirmation of the sale is at 12:35 pm eastern time. I WILL be getting my $20 back. I'll be calling then later this afternoon.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Romans8vs1:
My order was placed yesterday at 11:30. I just received a shipping e-mail. Just thought I would let you all know.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Just got my confirm too...love to hear how it goes getting the $20 back.

Hope the Nor'Easter doesn't screw me over on this one...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tornaszer:
Ordered yesterday morning received email just now with tracking. Due to deliver Wednesday.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
There's no argument here. They will refund me the $20 or my credit card will. This is cut and dry.

"Next Business Day Delivery service is available for $19.95

Orders placed before 4pm Central Time M-F will be shipped for Next Day PM Delivery via UPS. (Sorry, Not available for PO Box addresses or Orders to AK, HI, PR, VI).

(Note: Orders placed after 4pm Central Time M-F will ship out the following business

"
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
lol at you guys thinking that they will refund you the $20 shippng. you have no idea how that works. in the fine print does it say anywhere that they will refund you if it doesnt get delivered in next day?? um no
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Poloasis:
Tracking number received, but it's only a shipping label has been created for UPS, meaning it will get shipper most likely today for perhaps, maybe delivery tomorrow. Samsung owes me $19.99
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
lol you really think you will get $20 back???? you guys have a lot to learn
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Poloasis:
Other early DE owners had the same problem and were refunded the overnight shipping. Just spoke with them a min a go and she says it should has shipped yesterday. She's investigating.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] igknight:
Ill give it a go and see if I get it back, but not until UPS picks it up.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
good luck with that lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Next Day Air Saver is the service you paid $20 for, correct? Why the big fuss when that's what they are giving you??
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Poloasis:
Exactly, overnight shipping means overnight shipping. Again there is nothing wrong asking them to refund the $20 if you didn't get it overnight.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
You paid for shipping service not get next day service..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
this thread has some much failure in it. the guy that placed a backorder order thinking he would get and now shipping refunds smh

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they dont get it lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
You're right -- you can use an Xposed module, like Moto Tether, to get WiFi tether toggle natively (although the option for native WiFi tether toggle in Wanam Xposed does not work). Please also check out the mods by [MENTION=4668174]EMSpilot[/MENTION] here: http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/general/verizon-note-4-dev-phone-remove-cd-t2924708 -- he has a mod for native Wifi tether toggle, among other goodies. He also has a deodexed ROM with that feature, here: http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/development/rom-stock-root-odex-deodex-knox-free-t2949569.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
There's been multiple people who have reported speaking directly to Samsung and confirming the 30 day warranty. Scroll back through this thread. And I'd trust a manual a lot more over a website. Manual is written directly by the manufacturer, website could be written by anyone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
Did you get an email stating over night shipping? That's what you paid for..not get phone next day..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] HotLZ:
Just got off the phone with Samsung. My shipping costs are being refunded. :) So I guess I do "get it"

A word of advice if you are going to call: Call the number on your order confirmation that was emailed to you. After calling a different # I was on hold for 20 min, transferred 4 times, and finally gave up and tried the other number.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Poloasis:
Obliviously itdidn't get shipped yesterday, the date are clearly marked shipped 11-25-14, now if I get it tomorrow that's overnight shipping but from today, since I placed the order yesterday well before 4pm their time, I should get refunded. Later on when UPS gets updated, I will update you on the ETA.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
that is really low. i am disappointed in you guys. that is just wrong
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] triton302:
Some of you guys are going a little over the top with the whole "refund my shipping" deal. You need to realize that there are other factors associated with packaging and shipping items, they may not have been able to do so yesterday. "Next Day Shipping" means it will arrive the next day after it goes out of the warehouse. Be lucky you were able to buy the phone instead of posting more moans and groans about how it wasn't available. The phone will be here today, tomorrow, this week, whatever. You'll get the phone soon, chill.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] boynamedstacy:
Tomorrow? You sure about that? I'm to understand this is still preorder, no?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Yeah, now that you mention it and I went back and read again...it does say "coming soon". So, I guess it won't be here tomorrow. Thanks for point that out to me. I'd sure be pissed off if I waited all day for something that wasn't coming in the first place, LOL. Anyway, glad I went ahead and got it ordered. No regrets.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Boss428man:
When I was placing my order I scanned the "Terms and Agreements" It say they will not charge you until your order is ready. I was charged. I have no idea whether it is has or will be shipped out tomorrow but from their legal standpoint they charged me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Thanks for the info. Now that you mentioned it I got an alert from my credit card company asking me to verify the charge. So, I assume now that they have already charged me also. I haven't received a tracking number from UPS yet, so we'll see.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Boss428man:
I mean I'm not going to throw a hissy fit if I don't get it I just want to kill the idea that the Developer Edition isn't happening or yadda yadda. I even got a call from Visa. So in the end a couple days doesn't matter to me. Gives me sometime to look into root and TWRP so this Note 4 can really shine!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
Based on everything we've heard so far, we probably don't WANT a Lollipop version on our DE phones, at least any time soon, as it appears gaining root is going to be difficult at best, if not impossible (see threads about Chainfire's comments to that effect).

I for one am very happy we're getting the DE version with 4.4 on it. Things might well have go south quick if they ship the DEs with Lollies.

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Yup, my credit card was charged the full price, not just the dollar hold. Now, that's not saying they couldn't yank the works and refund, but....

Since the retail version has been out for a couple weeks now, I am hopeful there won't be too much of a delay in getting the DEs out the door. I too paid for overnight shipping, but, until I get an email or see in order status "Shipped", I'm not going to count my chickens.... the fat lady ain't sung just yet.