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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
So... remember that Netflix deal? I went ahead and did the manual submission even though the web page kept saying my IMEI isn't valid. To my surprise, I got an email this morning and it said I was approved! I entered the code, sure enough, I got 1 years worth of netflix on my DE Note 4!

I know a few of you did the same thing, look for the email in your inbox.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
dont know i did stock restore mj5 tar on the ones i sent back and already got credit for the one and waiting on credit for the second one. not sure the second one has even been delivered yet though. both were rooted/twrp and had roms on it. i never checked to see if knox was tripped though
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
I think all they really care about is they get it back stock if they even check that and phone has to be in excellent shape no dings.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] doubleplay648:
I am about to receive the Gear VR sometime this upcoming week, I am very excited. My current build number is DefinitiveRom.N910VOYU1ANI1 and I was wondering what do I need to do so that the Gear VR will work with my phone. I have heard that initially the Gear VR didn't work until the note 4 received an update via Verizon. Am I good to go, or will I need to do something first. If so please elaborate the steps in a numbered list, thank you.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
Check out the nj5 definitive rom thread it will tell you how to update via Odin to nj5 re root twrp and his vr compadable rom all on first page

sent from my definitve romed kt kernel enabled de note 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] doubleplay648:
Can I update from ANI1 to NJ5?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
Yes you can. Carefully read the instructions on at least the 1st 3 posts, follow instructions on how to flash a Developer Edition without turning your DE into a retail locked device. Link HERE

It would be a great idea to backup your DE's aboot partition before flashing
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jal3223:
I've saw some complaints about heat issues with the developer's edition around here. Does it seem to be a prevalent problem or just a few instances?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
No problems with mine....mine is 1st lot

..ordered the day they posted..lol

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kernel-ed / TWRP 2.8.4.0.trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
No problem here either.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] blubyu87gt:
No problem with on mine. In fact even using the fast charger or the wireless charger it still stays considerably cooler then my Note 3 did.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] orcsbane13:
Does anyone know if it would cause any problems to restore the data partition from one note 4 to a different one?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
Cm12 working check out the thread in the general section and thank mod57 for his work

sent from my cm 12 developer edition Note 4. If I have helped you please hit the thanks button.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
Cm12 has working data and all on today's build

sent from my CM12 developer edition Note 4. If I have helped you please hit the thanks button.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
Beat me to it.lol. Mod's got a thanks list a few pages back from most recent..anyone who downloads should go down the line and at very least say thanks to the awesome devs who keep us lowly peasants happy and busy flashing their great works.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jamphat:
how long did it end up taking to ship?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
My T-Mobile Note 4 had gotten really hot the first time I charged it out of the box and the same with my DE out the box...neither got hot after that initial charge tho. I only see a tiny handful of people I recognize from the BeanStalk 5.0/UnofficialCM12 port thread here...I'm wondering if you guys know there a working (well in fact) port of BeanStalk 5.0 based off of CM12 in the General forum by [MENTION=2220952]Mod57[/MENTION] ......???
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpfulton248:
Just bought a dev edition. How do they do on shipping time usually? I ordered yesterday morning and it said it would ship UPS ground and would ship out today.

Also, I kept reading on xda I would have to fill out a form to order a dev device but never had to fill anything out? They are definitely listing it under the "orders" section of my profile (albeit under the Accessory Orders which I find strange). Product id is ET-N910VMKEVZW and description is GN4 DEVELOPER DEVICE SM-N910VMKEVZW. All looks right to me just weird there wasn't a form to fill out, right? And... they had no problem taking my money ;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
I remember having to fill out a questionaire when I bought my S5 Developer Edition, but not by Note 4 Developer Edition. I guess they realized the form was useless because most everyone ordering the phone were general users, not developers lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpfulton248:
And your experience on shipping speed?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
Its surreal to see the DE available on a "permanent" basis.

Maybe they told vzw to go to hell with the limited amounts crap and sell away, given that they are losing customers left and right to other manufacturers.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
They ship usually the day you order if you order early enough.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] balla48801:
I ordered mine on sunday and got it on wednesday.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hpfalcon:
I ordered on 1/08:

http://imgur.com/BtaT7AQ
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpfulton248:
Just in case it helps someone that comes here with the same question I had... I ordered early on a Monday morning and it was picked up by UPS at the end of the day Wednesday. (Also, it's already been mentioned here and there but Samsung ships dev devices from Dallas, TX)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Silent Patriot:
Looks like it was delayed and spent a little down-time in FL during the storm, hehe.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Ragnell:
Question to the DE owners

What does the warranty cover in terms of physical damage, I'm always worried about if I drop my phone, which rarely happens, and the phone is damaged, who has the warranty? I have Vzn Warranty (asurion), Will they replace my DE or just return a regular note 4? Does Asurion not cover Note 4s? if not whats the warranty with samsung and can it be extended or covered for physical damages?

This is all on the idea that Root doesn't come in the next month or so either on kitkat or lollipop. I currently have a Note 4 and a S5(main phone until Note 4 gets root)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
I'm not sure about assurion but I know that if you send your dev edition phone back to Samsung you will get it back with locked boot loader. In don't think the guys that fix them even know there is a dev edition. The first thing there gonna do is run like a Factory Data Reset with there stuff to start from new and at that point there goes your unlocked boot loader. I would think if they were readly available to them and you specified they would get it but I doubt there gonna go on Samsung's site and order one. The one thing the Dave always stress is be careful you don't flash any stock firmware.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] downhillvinnie:
What is the difference between th DE and retail version phones?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
Unlocked bootloader.......means it can be rooted and custom recovery installed....the MOST important difference...lol. Same hardware.

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kernel-ed / TWRP 2.8.4.0.trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] downhillvinnie:
thanks.....are there tools to root them? I have used towelroot, but dont know if it works on the note 4? Same thing with recovery and Safestrap..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
No root for retail note 4

sent from my cm12 developer edition note 4. if I've helped you please hit the thanks button.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dominick_7:
Help on deciding which Note 4 to get, the Developer Edition or...

Hi. Was wondering if I could get some insights on which Note 4 to get. Am relatively tech savvy, but have never rooted due to my concerns with security. I've asked Outler directly, questions regarding security and unfortunately his answers gave me nothing but red flags. So I guess it might be a good idea to try again because the benefits of rooting are attractive.

So the thing I'm wondering with rooting is how do we know no one is adding something into the code via the rooting process to hijack and or steal our information on our device? It's already bad enough to have the NSA/Snowden understanding that this police state is spying on citizens (though to be fair whistleblowers have been saying this for many years, decades even) via tech, especially smartphones, but to have in addition to that an even more intrusive access to our information via rooting just seems to bring big brother's brazen peeping (or just having private hackers in addition to that in our business to being) over the top. I've talked to unlockers and some won't root for the reasons and concerns I have.

Apart from that, if rooting is not more insecure/unsafe/risky than a regular retail phone, and rooting is ok, which would you say is best to get, the Verizon Developer Edition which I think can do all bands (though I guess GSM data is a bit slower) or the T-Mobile version that can do GSM but no CDMA bands like Verizon? If rooting is more insecure and the spying apparatus is heightened with it, without rooting, which would you say is best, the regular retail Verizon which I THINK can do all bands though GSM data is slower, the T-Mobile which is the mod-able/rootable one or AT&T version which I guess is not? To my knowledge its recommended to go with the T-Mobile version and get it activated on AT&T because it has the best GSM coverage but I don't know about that as I've only had Verizon. Note that I've never rooted before so even though I wouldn't do it unless I immersed myself in how to do it and to know the risks, I'd prefer having a gimped version with a longer warranty than have to put out another $700 to get a new one. Am also not really interested in changing ROMs, sucking up my time constantly looking for the next best where I'd be ending up serving my device instead of the reverse. What I was wanting to possibly do was activate the Note 4 on Tracfone's $50 unlimited data and minute plan or go with whatever the cheapest plan is for unlimited ideally or something good enough from T-Mobile, AT&T, Walmart etc. Any help is appreciated, thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bitkahuna:
he was replying to quote about the DE version. can the DE version be rooted?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
DE.....Flash TWRP with Odin, then flash SuperSU with TWRP....rooted. Retail...no.

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kernel-ed / TWRP 2.8.4.0.trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Well, you could buy two tin cans and a string and not worry about any of the crap you just laboriously drug readers of this tread through, lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Vlip3:
I must say, that was the most unusual post I've ever encountered in all my years (didn't quote it so as to spare every one). I've been unlocking and installing custom ROMs since my very first smart phone, an HTC Touch Pro running Windows mobile and I have never once felt like they were less secure than the stock ROM. Quite the opposite. Most (if not all) developers get into it for themselves and then publish their work as a means of supporting their hobby. They run the ROMs on their own phones. They have gone through them in infinite detail and removed anything that might be "NSA" or "Big Brother" like. What we get from VZW or AT&T on our stock phones is far more likely to be intrusive than what we get with these custom ROMs. I trust the developers far more than I trust Verizon!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
+1. I'm with you.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
Personally, I feel i'm exposed without root. I don't know how you qualify yourself as "relatively tech savvy" since everything is "relative", but if you're only getting info from 1 source, then it could be biased. You could be the only Android user in a sea if iPhones, thus making you tech savvy in Android world amongst your friends, but if you're too scared to root, then you're missing a whole range of information.

For me, rooting a phone gives me the ability to take away an app's rights to location setting, contact access, network access etc. I can freeze anything I want, and if I'm the idiot that didn't read the permission requirements when I installed the app, or grant SU access to something that I shouldn't, well, that's on me, not because I rooted the phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Vlip3:
I agree wholeheartedly. Very good point! We have far more control over what our devices do when rooted.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Vlip3:
These ROMs are used by thousands of people. Malicious stuff being "injected" would have been found out and I've NEVER heard of any such thing happening. There are many very savvy users as well that would have figured out if something was amiss with a developer or his work. Besides, it goes completely against the nature of these guys who are extremely helpful to a fault. They spend many hours of their own time and get very little in return.

You may not know them personally but just look at their long history of work here on XDA; all the accolades and the camaraderie that exists and you will be convinced they can be trusted.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ebrinkis:
AND, most of the Kernels and roms have all the programming code openly available to view and discuss. Hard to hide a Big Brother thing when the code is open, easy to hide in "It came with the phone" systems where what is there may be in question. Root gives you 100% control over your phone -- if you choose not to check what you put into it, then you are at fault, not the root.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Hey Dude, there is nothing additional any of us can say to convince you that "Big Brother" is not lurking in our rooted phones. I for one choose not to participate in your mental masturbation any further. Have a good life.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
Well, I think I see what the problem is. Your understanding of tech is pretty hardware focused. Now understand that a lot of the people on XDA are software developers or are software focused, and you'll see why a lot of people are incredulous to the questions that you're asking. I also gathered that you've been brainwashed by too many sensationalism reporting.

But to address your most pressing concern. The simple fact of rooting doesn't do anything. ZIP! No one is twisting your arm to flash ROMs. I have a DE Note 4, rooted, but stock ROM, and I'm perfectly happy with it. The only piece of software that's different pre/post root is SuperSU. That's it! You're buying into the media hype too much. If you're concerned about the CIA, NSA, Black Ops, or what ever government spy program that Snowden is leaking, I got bad news. They'll get your info from the source (the phone company, fake cell towers, Gmail, ISP, etc), they don't even give a damn what phone you have or if it's rooted. Also, if privacy is your concern, you should care more about the permissions that apps requests, rather than if your phone is rooted or not. Think about it, why would a Flashlight app need access to your location, contacts, network, wakelock and phone identity? You give the app just as much info with or without root. But WITH rooting, you can prevent unauthorized app access, that's why people root.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Silent Patriot:
Galaxy Note Edge Developer Edition

Galaxy Note Edge Developer Edition has been updated with pricing, $799.99. Still can't be added to cart.

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N915VMKEVZW
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
I had a hard time justifying $700 for the regular Note glad I did it is the best Android phone I have ever had for data and signal. I only wish there was more development and I also have a Nexus 6.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] 3_D:
15 Day Warranty Only!!!

Just be careful. I ordered my DE phone on January 22nd and was shipped on the 23rd. I was having intermittent problems when it would stop recognizing finger inputs, but would accept the s pen. It would go away when I turned off display and turn back on. It got progressively worse each week. I called for a RMA and they told me to take it to Best Buy and have a Samsung Experience Employee look at it.

He, Zack, spent several hours trying to see if he could fix it. We called Samsung to get a RMA when they told me it was out of warranty. They said that the DE phone only had a 15 day warranty. We looked on the Samsung website, where it showed a 30 day warranty; or if it was custom rommed .Which it wasn't. They still would not honor the 30 day warranty. They said they would charge me at least $200 to fix it.

I then went to a Samsung repair center and they also said it would be a $200 charge. I showed them the website 30 day warranty. They said if I showed them the invoice with the imei number on it, they would fix it. Even though I have the invoice, it does not have the imei number. So, I'm SOL at this time.

Just be weary of Samsung Customer Service.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] windstrings:
That's bull, like they didn't know it didn't have an imei #
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Silent Patriot:
Wow, sorry to hear about the horrible customer service from Samsung. Couple things I would do is ask for escalation to management, contact the BBB, and see if the credit card or other payment method you used offers new purchase insurance or reversing the charges for non-delivery of goods as expected.

They really need to improve the tacky Developer Edition experience - offer full warranties and OS updates.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
They are great to me I ordered a second note 4 developer edition and it was super laggy and hot. Called got rma and ordered another one. Shipped the one back and got new one same issue. Called again and had no problem getting rma again and returned it and received refund for both rather quickly. Both my phones were rooted and rommed too guess they didn't notice lol or stock restore tar worked perfectly lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gFOLD:
help needed with DE abroad

Hi All

im currently abroad in India.. using Verizon N4 DE, and i'm able to roam and get voice /text but no data. Even with the DE and rooted (of course) I cant change my APN's to something local. im stuck on verizons APN (using global or GSM doesnt matter). I am actually paying for verizon global plan and still cant even use freakin data. does anyone know of an app or method to get around this?

thanks a ton

gF
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
Dial *#*#4636#*#* phone info go down to right above turn off radio and try gsm lte CDMA. Then in mobile networks and turn on data roaming
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hredder:
Justin curios.. Since both the DE note 4 and the Nexus 6 being roughly the sake price. If think Nexus is 699. if my memory serves me correctly. Is Motorola that bad. I do like note phones.. It's do like removable storage.. I like quickly charge.. Still in between. I still have ULD with Verizon and need my hitosputu.. Any suggestions
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
I was in the same spot...unlimited Verizon data so I pay full retail and deciding between the N4 and N6. I went N4 and have been very happy for these reasons:

S-pen...use it all the time at work

Xposed - doesn't work with lollipop yet

Removable battery - don't need it often but when you do its a godsend.

Flat back - try using an N6 sitting on a desk or table

Simultaneous voice and data on Verizon - can't do it yet on the N6. Its coming with VoLTE but who knows when and who knows how version 1.0 works.

The development is limited but then again I don't have time to be flashing a ROM a day (and if people are honest most ROMs for a given device are 90% the same anyway). I use Firekat which works great along with 10 or so xposed modules and I can't imagine how the phone could be much better.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Vlip3:
I was intrigued by your mention of Firekat so I looked it up. From what I found, it is a ROM for the T-Mobile variant. Does it work on Verizon? I was wondering if it was possible to install a ROM written for a phone on a different carrier. I'm all in for a note 4, like you, I use the S-pen extensively. The only reason I haven't gotten it yet is frankly, the cost.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jbombs16:
The developer for firekat makes a vzw version of the rom. Check out the 2nd or 3rd post in the tmo thread.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] neva4self:
Was anyone else's box seal cut open already?

Just got mine in the mail today and I was wondering if anyone else's box seal was already cut open when they got it? I'm talking about those two round clear little sticker seals they use on the sides of the phone box so that you know it hasn't been opened already. Also mine didn't come with instructions so that made me kind of leery about the seals being cut open prior to my receiving it. I know most phones nowadays don't come with a big users manuals like back in the day but they usually have some type of literature that tells you how to open the battery door and install the SIM and SD card. The only literature inside was the product warranty info. It's not like I need help putting in the battery, SIM or the SD card but between all the people saying that they had to return theirs for heating issues or other issues, and the seals on the box already being cut open when I got it, I just want to make sure they didn't send me a phone that someone returned. The invoice says the phone was inspected by someone but I'm still wondering if you guys received the phone with already cut seals and no user manual. Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gFOLD:
thanks! but unfortunately dialing *#*#4636#*#* doesn't seem to work when dialing from overseas. i cant seem to find this option anywhere. i must be blind :(

---> go down to right above turn off radio and try gsm lte CDMA. Then in mobile networks and turn on data roaming

does that only show after dialing that string?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] cam1pbell:
Yes my seals where also cut open. I was wondering the same thing. Thanks for posting
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] neva4self:
Cool, that eases my mind a little. I plugged it in right away and I'm going to leave it plugged in just to make sure I don't experience any heating issues while charging. What about literature? Did you have a user manual/guide? Mines only came with a product warranty/safety manual.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] cam1pbell:
Nope no manual instructions nothing. I have developer note 3. So I know my way around pretty good. Enough to root. That's all I want for now. The developer edition note 4 is the only way to go.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] neva4self:
I hear you, I'm no expert myself but I've owned the Note's 2, 3 and now 4. This is my first DE though. I rooted the 2 from scratch and used towel root for the 3. I definitely don't need the manual either but I was just making sure I wasn't the only one who didn't get one because of the opened seals. I'm hoping I really like the 4 because my 3 was horrible. It got worse 4G reception than my 2 and it would reboot on it's own occasionally.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jbombs16:
For all the new owners, I'd recommend backing up your aboot. See this guide

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=57080306