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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
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Nickson: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?

Visitor: I am looking to purchase another SM-N910VMKEVZW

Visitor: the website is down on the link to purchase.

Nickson: I am sorry to know that. I will check and I will help you with the information.

Visitor: just curious if they are still available? or will be available in the future..

Nickson: Yes, It is available in website.

Visitor: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910VMKEVZW

Visitor: it does not load

Visitor: for the Note 4 developers edition

Nickson: Let me check with the information in our resource.

Visitor: ok thanks

Nickson: I'm sorry for the delay. I'll be right with you.

Nickson: I have seen in our resource that you can purchase, Please check any other browser and let me know the status.

Visitor: ok hold on

Nickson: Sure.

Visitor: i tried IE, Google Chrome, and Safari

Visitor: mac and windows xp

Nickson: I am sorry to know that.

Nickson: I think the page server is down please check after some couple of our hours. It may work.

Visitor: its been a week

Visitor: if i was to call could i purchase one?

Nickson: In this regard, I will file a reference request You have to contact our voice support team they will help you with the information. Please call Voice Support
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
Chat told me to call, too... no luck. You didn't get one, did you?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcounts:
Welcome to Samsung customer service....they're absolutely the worst. I have a Samsung smart TV 6 months old that won't stay connected to the Internet. I have had 3 appointments with them where they remotely wipe and reset my TV ...takes an hour each time.....and still not fixed . I'm not sure any Samsung employees know what to do except read a script.....very frustrating. Hope it works out for you!

sent from my "Morom'ed" SM-910V
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
I bought a used one. That's my inquiry
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bbeelzebub:
Good luck with that. I have a three year old model that has NEVER been able to stay connected to the internet except for a 1 month period six months ago. It's a highly common problem with Samsung Tvs.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Whats the best and current rom, CM12 rom version and kernell. Ive been out of the loop since march... lots of pages to read from... Any help would be greatly appreciated....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
JasmineROM FTW :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] armyofsquirrels:
That hurt my head reading... I'm not a grammar Nazi but holy cow this is your customer service representative and they are representing like crap.

Nickson: I think the page server is down please check after some couple of our hours. It may work.

That line in itself drives me crazy. Not to mention that it doesn't resolve anything. I don't even work there and I can answer your question. If you call them you can order over the phone that's how I bought mine.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
How recently? Since the page went down?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bagery77:
I was assuming it was not a native English speaker. I also got that idea when calling and communicating with some of them, so I cut them some slack.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcounts:
I agree but to be fair I think those customer service people are all in foreign countries with English being their second or third language. While it drives me crazy and I get impatient with them, I blame Samsung directly for the inadequate policies they have put in place for handling our questions and claims. They make it hard for their reps by making us go through to many questions or troubleshooting steps, wasting our time and ultimately not helping us. I have tons of Samsung products from refrigerators, tablets, phones, bluray players, etc. I've supported Samsung for years but will start looking elsewhere in the future.

sent from my "Morom'ed" SM-910V
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] PaulPizz:
I just spoke with samsung. i was told they no longer have the developers device for sale. anyone wanting to sell one please pm me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GingerSmurf:
Yeah I am looking to pick up a DevEd Note 4 as well. I read through the thread and saw the model number is slightly different than the retail model. Swappa doesn't have a seperate page for the DevEd either though. Anyone know a good place to look for these or have one they'd be willing to sell?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] krishaun27:
Guys you can forget it. The Note 4 DE will likely never return to the site. Same thing happened with the Note 3. Add to that the Note 5 will be announced this month which means it's pretty much a wrap.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wy1d:
I might sell my Note 4 DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GingerSmurf:
PM'd
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
I was getting ready to buy another developer edition and saw they were gone. I'm thinking they will make a note 5 de now? If not why would they pull the note 4?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] orcsbane13:
There was no s6 de version this time tho so who knows at this point.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
I might have one for sale. Basically brand new in box. 3 weeks old has glass screen protector on it since new. Had all accessories still sealed in box. Considering putting it on swappa this week.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] howlinwolf111:
Hello.. I am interested in your verizon note 4 developer edition if you decide to sell it. I am flexible on price. What are you expecting? I will be happy to finalize the deal with you in xda, and complete the purchase on swappa.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ruddogg:
I'm interested in a Note 4 DE also if anyone is willing to sell. Thx!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GingerSmurf:
PM

mrlaigle, are you receiving my PM's with my email address?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Okay Guys... IM trying to load up Jasmine Rom on my DE.

I am currently at this state on my Phone.

Pac_trlteusc-userdebug 5.1.1

Baseband - N10VOYU1BOAF

Now to jump to N910VVRU2BOF1,

Extract the N910VVRU2BOF1_StockRestore.tar.md5

Extract Odin v3.09 & open it

Reboot to Download Mode (press and hold Home + Power + Volume Down)

Connect phone and wait until you get a blue sign in Odin

Add the N910VVRU2BOF1_StockRestore.tar.md5 file to AP / PDA

Make sure re-partition is NOT ticked

Click the start button, sit back & wait a few minutes

Reboot into recovery (press and hold Home + Power + Volume Up)

Wipe data (Factory Reset)

Reboot to system

This is the one file that I need in odin.

N910VVZW2BOF1 Stock Restore: N910VVRU2BOF1_StockRestore.tar.md5.7z

md5: 1c4df35b699e00bad4522cd24dde839a

Its been a while been on Iphone Mode, not tearing back into the Android realm...

Thanks

Justin
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcounts:
Justin follow the op's instructions here

Also follow special instructions for DE

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=61828120

sent from my "Morom'ed" SM-910V
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Gary,

I read them but i am lost when it says "For Developer Edition: If the bootloader is incremented with any coming OTA, it'll block your unlocked bootloader for good & you'll end up with a Retail Edition."

Incremented? Thats where I am lost.. I dont want to retail edition my phone...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcounts:
The incremental bootloader was part of the ota, you didn't take the ota so you don't need to worry about that. Just don't flash the bootloader its for the retail edition only. You need to follow the post that is for dev ed only...It's further down in the first post. Sorry I can't be more helpful atm

sent from my "Morom'ed" SM-910V
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] cam1pbell:
Make sure you uncheck this in security. Then Odin twrp then wait for it to boot it takes a while. Then download and flash jasmine. If you are not on 0F1 it won't boot. Just make sure you do the safe update for dev edition http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3155743
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Thanks Guys, Got it up and running.. was over thinking it... Up and running...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] cam1pbell:
I did the same thing. Glad you got it going.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
Whew! If I do end up being to get a dev edition, I'm glad there's plenty of brainpower around here to keep me in the know. I've lost my edge with a bootloader-locked note 3 for the past 2 years
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Seems like everything is becoming a lost art with all the locked bootloaders and no ability to root.

Note 5 looks good but no SD card, removable battery and having a glass back/front is scary if you drop it.

The note 4 DE is running good running Jasmine's latest build. Someone offered me 650 for my iPhone 6 plus 128gb. So she's sold.

I miss the old Beantown Roms from the note 2 and 3 days.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Oh_wow:
+1 Totally agree
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] xbdarkman:
I'm looking to buy a note 4 DE... please pm me
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ryanbg:
Those were the days...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
I find it hard to believe the amateur development scene has turned out like this for the Note 4. Now the Note 5 has a fixed battery and no SD. It's probably going to be locked up even tighter than the Note 4. I'm glad I got my N4 DE even though it messed up my finances for a while. At least I have a phone to get me through til something changes. This will probably be my last Samsung phone on Verizon. Luckily I have no more contracts to deal with.

I know I sure hate the thought of winding up with bloatware and ads.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
I know this thread isn't a marketplace... but I'm posting again to let anyone with a Dev Edition know that I'm looking to buy. Name a price, and I'll add the amazon sale fees. Just had a deal fall through, unfortunately. Really anxious to upgrade my phone and give my Note 3 to my wife. PM me if interested. Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] MetaMav:
Hello Everyone!

I am looking to purchase a Verizon Developer Edition Note 4. PM me if you have a device to sell. I'd be happy to purchase it on swappa.

Thank You
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] FAUguy:
I too am also looking for a Verizon Note 4 Dev Edition.

I was holding out the past few months to see if the Note 5 had microSD, but now we know it won't. And even at that, some are saying a Dev Note 5 probably won't be out until next year.

So if you are looking to sell a Note 4 Dev, please send me a PM.

Thank you.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] vmod32:
I'm also looking for a Note 4 Developer Edition. I have a contract upgrade with Verizon I can use, can do a 1:1 trade for any bran new phone you want in exchange...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] teegunn:
So there is literally NO place to buy a new Dev Edition Note 4 right now? Samsung killed that option a few weeks before the N5 release and I doubt that was by accident. I just don't understand why they wouldn't offer the Dev Edition when people still obviously want it and were buying it. If anyone knows of another place to buy a NEW Dev Edition N4 please post that info. Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Man everybody wants to buy note 4 holy I should start an eBay auction for mine
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] teegunn:
How long have you had your Dev Edition oneandroidnut?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
Hey... don't forget you sort of gave me dibs on it when I wanted to buy it back in June and you decided to keep it...

I'm still in the market until I actually get one. You mentioned that you've got an amazon seller account, so I'm ready when you are! We could make this quick. :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] krishaun27:
The value of the Note 4 DE just went up by about 50% thanks to that Note 5 bull****. After seeing that pos S6 I hurry up and bought my DE.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rEVOLVE:
Turns out my data needs are just not where they used to be, so I'm giving up my grandfathered Verizon unlimited data account for a cheaper line on Cricket. Looks like I'll be selling off my Dev edition for an unlocked T-mo Note 4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
PMd

Sent from my XT1060
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
Dibs! I call dibs. (EDIT... crap. I didn't get my post out fast enough, but I did PM before posting. The race is on, [MENTION=3869644]dacapho[/MENTION])

BTW... You can sell your unlimited data plan, too. You don't have to just give it up and let Verizon win. You can transfer your account to someone else, and I think people are paying for that kind of a thing.

I'm already on UDP, but I'm just saying... I've seen it done.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
So did I, going 85 down the hwy...

Sent from my XT1060
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
haha dont worry it isnt going anywhere soon! im buying moto x pure first chance i get if it knocks it out then i can still sell to you! :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
I've got my eye on it too. Hopefully verizon doesn't unlock-block it through Motorola somehow.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
Just FYI, make sure before you jump on the Pure that it does both data and voice simultaneously(on Verizon) ..my moto x 2013 does, but the 2014 DOESNT..makes it really hard to troubleshoot a customer when your on the phone..most Sammy's do, I believe

Sent from my XT1060
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] evilkokonut:
Wow I'm scared if I ever break my de it'll be too expensive to replace
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
Maybe that particular version, but with Motorola starting to drive the price of unlocked/off contract phones down to what most of us pay anyway, Dev editions of the big players may be phased out, or become the norm..hopefully

Sent from my XT1060
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] evilkokonut:
The new moto x pure edition looks great. I'd be all over it if it had a removable battery and ois.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
ois?..but as far as the battery, I have never had a battery issue, nor a OS issue that needed a "pull".. I'm very hard on my phones in reference to tethering and keeping it charged. Having a non-removable battery isnt an issue with the X..I went thru 8 different roms before I found what I liked.

Sent from my XT1060
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] evilkokonut:
optical image stabilization
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wy1d:
I was considering Moto X also until I realized it's LCD. SAMOLED on Note 4 is too good to downgrade screens.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jal3223:
LCDs are looking really good now days. I think I may even prefer them over amoled due to the burn in issue.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wy1d:
Not sure what burn-in you are talking about but I've had 6 devices (phones and tablets) with AMOLED and never had any burn-in. Active Display with AMOLED is amazing. Active Display with LCD is pretty terrible at night.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] CrozB:
I prefer the super amoled for low light at night using the phone as a screen always on alarm clock. But for me the real thing Moto has to improve is the max brightness. The Note 4s behavior in direct sunlight is fantastic! I gave up on the Moto Nexus 6 because the screen was terrible outdoors. Been watching for Moto X Pure specs related to MAX NITS but have note been able to fine anything.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jal3223:
Every Motorola that I have had with on screen navigation buttons had terrible burn in. On a white screen you can make out each individual button and see the top and bottom bars that were black. It's a widely known issue in Moto forums.

It seems like the amoled technology that Samsung uses doesnt burn in quite as fast, but then again they dont use one screen buttons either. I did have moderate screen burn on my Galaxy s5 where the notification bar is. It wasnt near as bad as Motorola's though.

All that said I have to agree with you about active display. It does look better with an amoled panel.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wy1d:
Yeah - I've never understood people's obsession with on-screen buttons. Below-screen buttons like Samsung uses just makes more sense to me giving the full screen real estate to the user and with Samsung's implementation doesn't add any extra screen bezel. I've never had a Moto phone but I do have a 360 that many have complained have burn in and it uses LCD. So it sounds like it's not an OLED thing but just that Moto uses less than top tier components.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] teegunn:
It will be nice to see things like Display quality and max brightness on the Moto X pure once people have them and start reviewing and testing them in the real world. I also do not like on screen virtual buttons, and will miss the dedicated physical button of the Note series. All this solidifies the fact that I really still want a Note phone, just not an incredibly gimped note phone like the Note 5.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
I have bad burn in on my 2013 X..top and bottom..I use the white background to try and even it out.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
If you want to see burn-in, go into a verizon store and pick up a Note Edge. Leave the demo, and feast your eyes. Its a shame
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
will do for sure man! I will put it through the ringer before i sell my note 4 developer!

---------- Post added at 04:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:14 PM ----------

I dont think its possible. i will be buying from the moto maker and they are all unlocked for all carriers
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
They're bootloader-unlocked out of the box? I thought you were going to have to unlock it using the online tool: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a

The 2014 Moto X Pure is on the list for their "Bootloader Unlock Program" I was under the impression that it was locked out of the box (like a Nexus is)... but you had to run it through an app that would unlock it while voiding the warranty (unlike a Nexus).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] evilkokonut:
https://swappa.com/listing/ZDG348/view

One on swappa for 700 bucks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
don't know. either way should be unlockable. still had to unlock nexus 6 bootloader too but it was a simple command. all i know is the moto x pure has a lot better odds to have an unlocked bootloader compared to the note 5 to get root

---------- Post added at 08:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:36 PM ----------

thats a good deal!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] teegunn:
That is a good deal.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
someone already pulled the trigger.. its gone...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] teegunn:
I actually bought it. It won't ship until Monday, so probably won't have it until mid or late next week.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
You'll love it man!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jr_718:
I'll have to track down the ups/FedEx Shipping. ..and take it...?? damn that was quick git sold quicker than a light ? switch
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
You are most definitely correct that it will be easier than the note 5 to get unlocked (unless the exynos line still has some exploits left uncovered)... but what I meant is that Verizon could swing their big red stick and command Motorola not to allow their online unlock registration for Verizon products. (Like they do/did for HTCdev.com) What I wasn't thinking of, though... is that I did hear that Motorola will not be selling through Verizon, or any carrier for that matter. At least, not at first. They are bucking the system, and only selling via BestBuy, Amazon, and other similar non-carrier venues. Selling carrier-agnostic phones might just run enough interference to keep Verizon from stopping it. Fingers crossed!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] teegunn:
oneandroidnut - Thanks! After seeing the link on this thread, I just went for it. I am excited to get it!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jal3223:
If Verizon does try to block the Moto pure activated on their network you could always unlock before activating. They are all the same before inserting your Sim card. ;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] sp000n:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RKN0IAC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

Going quickly. I bought one each for the wife and I. They arrived today and look legit so I thought I'd mention here.

EDIT: Wait a sec. This may not be "Unlocked" after all. It doesn't seem to be the right version. I have SMN910VZWE.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] PaulPizz:
I loved my note 4 besides the fact no root. It's too bad.. The device has great potential. I recently bought a nexus 6. It's rootable, with an unlocked bootloader. This is the best thing I could have done. I wish I would have done this in the first place. I'd recommend saying bye bye to Samsung especially the fact there is no more dev edition note 4 for sale. Do your selves a favor and move on. You will not be disappointed. [emoji12]
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
That means "Carrier Unlocked". It means you can roam with it I guess. The only one with an unlocked bootloader is the Dev Ed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] sp000n:
Thanks. Hope I didn't lead anyone astray... edited quite quickly.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tbparkey:
Looks like this is not a Verizon phone...found this under reviews.

Samsung Galaxy Note 4 N910V 32GB Verizon / Unlocked GSM 4G LTE Smartphone - Frosted White

**NOT unlocked version.

By L. Cameron - August 16, 2015

Amazon Verified Purchase

BUYER BEWARE. The Note 4 is great gear but this is NOT the unlocked Verizon version (also known as the Developer Edition). Falsely labeled.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
I dont think verizon can touch it if moto sells unlockable outright.

exactly!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wy1d:
The only VERIZON capable Note 4 with unlocked bootloader is the Developer Edition. International "Unlocked" version as well as T-Mobile versions of the Note 4 do have unlocked bootloader and will work on GSM carriers but will not work on Verizon.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
Agreed. "Unlocked" in the case of that amazon link most definitely referred to carrier/sim unlocking. Besides... the DE only came in black. Not to rebuke the user that posted the link or anything... it was kind of them to post it for us to take advantage.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] sp000n:
No offense taken; it was a noob mistake, I guess, although I really thought I had done my homework on the model numbers and terminology. $1200+ mistake! Guess I ought to tone down the language of my Amazon review.

I'm desperate to get my hands on either A) a Dev Ed Note 4 or B) a viable stylus-enabled alternative that lets me root for tether, Orbot, debloat/optimize and a handful of other tasks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
$1000 HOLY

https://swappa.com/listing/UKP666/view
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] krishaun27:
See my post #2425......
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
what about it???
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
$750 now..seller is OP of post #2426

Congrats on the sell rEVOLVE

Sent from my XT1060
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Jaytronics:
Don't do it. If your needs were more before. Chances are they could be again. You are giving up something rare and wonderful. If you are going to do it any way, at least sell it so that it does not disappear from the face of the planet.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] evilkokonut:
Ugh I may have to sell mine coming up.. If anyone has a g4 and wants to trade it plus cash I'm interested.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Jaytronics:
If any one is in or close to New England I have an RC truck a small plane and mini Quadra copters I would trade for your Dev Note4.