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[Teclast X98 Air 3G] siezed:
Thanks for the reply, yes i checked the event viewer and i am getting hibernation due to thermal event, the same error as the screenshot ill include my own. I also do get the thermal screen dim message on android but havnt played with it that much.

The temps im seeing are idle about 50c on all cores from speedfan, and when playing games some cores hover around 75c and i think shutdown around 80c as indicated by the chart but ill have to check that again.

as for the actual shield on the soc its nothing but a thermal pad, theres the soc then the pads stuck right on the chip, no shield or anything, i added a metal plate with thermal paste on the bottom, galvanized steel i think, then taped that on with electrical tape, added more thermal paste on the tape so it contacted the back cover fully. Its not the best solution but i used what i had, if you think copper plates would truly make the difference perhaps i could try that but i get that sinking heart feeling with every snap of taking the back cover off lol

Perhaps theres a better thermal solution on the soc since i have quite a bit of room to work with between the actual exposed soc chips and the aluminum back cover? price is an issue, i dont want to put any money into it if i dont have to, but am definitely open to hearing throwing money at it solutions =)

On a side note i just found in intel display manager theres 3 different settings, 3d-application optimal mode, disabled that, clicked performance mode under that setting, then under power i clicked "power saving mode" and slid the slider all the way right to max battery saving, this seems to allow me to play hearthstone on medium settings at least one full game so thats good. i just noticed another post saying to have the power button towards the top that way the major heat components can escape easier due to being on the top, good advice ill try it.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] royeiror:
I haven't tried but I'd guess extracting all the third party drivers from the windows 8 installation and injecting them to the windows 7 USB could get you a working Windows 7 tablet.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Jules_b:
widows 8.1 bing licence key

hi

i have a question: My windows 8.1 key is a text key like xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx and my bios is flashed.

is there a way to inject this text key into the bios? Or make a bin file using Taipower_Bios_Utility ?

thanks !!
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SkOrPn:
If you know how to mod bios files you might be able to inject a SLIC into your bios file using a common OEM key, but not sure it works with consumer keys though.

EDIT: Does anyone here have the Galaxy Tab S also? Trying to compare the build quality of the two. The TAB S is now $259 at Newegg (and BestBuy if you price match it) here in the states and that is a fantastic deal for a super premium Android tab. Makes it difficult to order the Teclast when such a highly regarded premium tab is so close in price, lol.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] kroken123:
I really like the idea of dual booting devices and been looking for one lately, first i was tempted to buy the cube talk 9x but it is only android OS, is the Teclast X98 Air 3G best to go, i see there is also later model of this one but cant find any difference acutally.. anyone that could point me in the right direction?

Cheers
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] loubkt:
Still having my problem with asphalt 8

Hi again! No one have the dame problem with asphalt 8?

Arfffffffffffffff
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SkOrPn:
What later model? There is only the AIR 3G and the AIR II, which only differ in regards to one has 3G/GPS (AIR 3G) and the other doesn't (AIR II). Otherwise they are practically the same device with the AIR II costing just a little bit less, but not by much.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] kroken123:
So there is no difference at all other is 3g/gps? how about the screen? Refresh rat at 60hz or 48hz?
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SkOrPn:
The AIR 3G used to be at 48hz, but that was fixed with a bios update earlier in the year I think, but not totally sure. The AIR II is definitely 60hz. This is only what I think I heard in the reviews though. Not sure about today's situation. I assume with both devices on their 3rd and 4th revisions, its probably 60hz on both devices now.

This video is good at comparing the two, but things might have changed since. https://youtu.be/nBTLi_GPPKI

EDIT: Yeah Chris confirmed that the AIR 3G now has 60hz. and was fixed back in January.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] kroken123:
Got it thanks.

So should i buy this tablet? will it meet our needs or is there a better option nowadays?
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SkOrPn:
There is no way to answer that question for you. It depends on what you want, and what your real needs are and what level of risk your OK with. Of course there is better, but at higher prices. After weeks of research I can't find another device quite like the AIR 3G model. The ONLY thing that worries me is the build quality. Will it last me at least 2-3 years? That is the #1 thing that worries me. I know the TAB S is now $259 and a super premium Android tab, and obviously above par when considering build quality. However, I REALLY want 4:3 aspect and I REALLY want dual boot with Windows 10. If only the Teclast was about $160, it would seem to the smarter buy. At $200 I consider it overpriced myself...
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] kosmas fil:
I have the c8j6 version of this tablet. After bricking it I flashed the c8j7 4.4.4 rom and reinstalled windows. Now the front camera does not cork (can't connect to camera message when I try to switch) and audio of phone calls is terrible. Any ideas for what is wrong?

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Has anyone managed to get Ethernet to work on android? In windows it works but the android kernel does not have an eth0 on network devices
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SkOrPn:
There is no Ethernet on these tablets in this thread. Only WIFI and 3G. There are tabs with Ethernet though, but its rare.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] kosmas fil:
Lol, sorry, I ment connect a USB Ethernet. In windows (this tablet) it works fine and with my xperia phone. But when in android it is not recognized.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Jules_b:
Thank you for your answer. Do you have a tutorial to do this? I have an OEM windows 8.1 bing license from teclast tab . I installed the 2.02 bios. I just want to active my windows but no key in the bios so it doesnt work.

C5J6
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SkOrPn:
No I do not, sorry. But you can ask if its possible over at www.bios-mods.com I think, and even put in a request for a modder who knows what they are doing. I think this borders on illegal though, but not entirely sure. What people should do before formatting their tablets is reserve Windows 10 FIRST while your still running an activated copy from the manufacturer. Then you can mess around all you want without any risk of losing activation since the activation is tied to your Microsoft account and the device. From this point on Windows 10 will only need a sign-in with a free MSA account every time you install, with unlimited clean installs. No more serials or keys or calling in for activation just to install Windows.. lol
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] nolive72:
finally managed to flash new BIOS on my C5J6 using my work PC running windows7 instead of my private one under 8.1 lol

at 1st,I could not use teh camera front or rear but I fixed this by booting in Android and back to Windows.

as everybody mentioned,battery drain is now fixed,I got 3% drain over 7Hr night yesterday.Result!

if my memory of this huge thread is right,I think somebody mentioned it was added a one button option to switch between OS after the BIOS update but I cant find it.

Is there anyway to activate this,would be the cherry on the cake.....

now time to play seriously with Windows 8.1 on a tablet,finally.....
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] lrobberl:
Here you go

Teclast Switch OS for Windows:

https://mega.co.nz/#!HglAhRhY!ldGNzsm-LN8qLnqqYWxbifM8gIzh2SmagU0NWzDtxPE

For the switch from Android to Windows, it's included in mirek's rom
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] BoORDeL:
Here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=61133316&postcount=8562
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] nolive72:
thanks and grazie:good:
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] nolive72:
was too optimistic.my SD card is not recognized anymore,probleme with card controller code10

funny thing is that 2 controllers are listed in device manager,i disabled the faulty one but still the issue remains.

it says the drivers are latest ones as well so windows update dont help here.

any idea what could be wrong?

thanks

olivier
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] supercowz:
dang !!!

i think i will resell mine (with christmass season ... no big deal) and wait for the real dual boot ...
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
Thanks again!

I advise you to change the launcher to Nova Launcher

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher

You will thank to me after :good:
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] soudara:
1,33ghz it's minimum frequency of cpu in use the cpu can up to 2.16gz i can see it on performance tab in task menu
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] supercowz:
i allway use nova launcher with all my chinese device, i installed it on my Meizu mx4 ...

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of course is logical, i see it now ...
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
If i was you, i would take this one and maybe wait for a possible discount soon future (the seller make discount quite often)

3G and GPS advantage and eMMC is faster than Air II

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...Quad-Core-Tablet-PC-2/609719_32222560720.html
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Killa-Bee:
could you advise me on what Launcher is the closest of being like MIUI?

I love the MIUI and for some reason I connect better to that style of launcher, launchers that don't have Application drawer and I can group Icons into folders, etc...

The best if you can tell me if there is a MIUI port-over ROM for our Teclast Tablet somewhere out there on the NET ;)
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
this means the story has a bad end unfortunately.. as i said before guys, we will need to live these issues and be happy :good:

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try this one, its a product of XDA

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2232795

or this one

http://www.gizmobolt.com/2014/08/31/download-miui-6-express-launcher-non-xiaomi-devices/

and this one i found on google play

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.epic.launcher.mi

please tell us about your experiences with them :good:
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Killa-Bee:
the two later ones (links), the none XDA, are also for tablets or only for SmartPhones?

by the pictures it looks like for smart phones only.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
as long as you use 4.4 kitkat, they will support your tablet too, i mean they are not just specialy for smartphones, can be used for tablets too, feel free to try, nothing to lose.

also try this one

http://en.miui.com/thread-2345-1-1.html
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] mirek190:
APEX launcher is the best for me.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
yes Nova and Apex seem the best but he is looking for MIUI based launcher, thats why im advising him these launchers
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] HDtracer:
I'm pretty sure that you can set Nova up to look like MIUI, I seem to remember an option to hide the app drawer button.

I will have a look when I get home.

Nova and apex will support the MIUI icon packs too.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] supercowz:
if i remeber well you can dl skin/theme and use it on nova launcher, i did it in the past

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsproductions.theme.miui.v5&hl=fr
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Killa-Bee:
Thanks guys for your great help, I will sure look at those suggestions and see what suites me the best.

Thanks again for the great help!!!!!

You all were amazing :highfive:
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] HDtracer:
Oh and the best thing is with Nova, Apex and GO launchers you can setup double tap to turn screen off.

After being spoiled by my LG G2, I still pick up other phones/tablets and peck away at the screen like a chicken wondering why they dont turn on :silly:

Having double tap screen off is a small consolation.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Dudeonyx:
The culprit is not yasu!

Umm, no.

FACT

The screen of the teclast x98 air 3g can run at 60hz without any flickering, it does so with the default android installed as well as windows xp( and Ubuntu i think).

I wonder if anyone will get the (lame) title joke
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Jote:
Minimum frequency is 498MHz. Max is 2158MHz. Stock Android kernel barely uses any other frequencies even though frequency table has 21 frequencies listed.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] qrious:
interesting

just add bbs.

cnweiyan.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=28669&extra=page%3D1

...take a look at some of the downloads....like the dual boot bios
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] ImJamIN:
Yes. That's true.

If there was a pin problem no other o.s. like android or winxp or Ubuntu? could run at 60hz. So there isn't any 'fault' at hardware but the problem is only software.

So, we must have hope to resolve this big/little problem. OK ? ;)
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Maringer:
That's disappointing. You'd think they would use a better governor to control CPU frequency. A quick look through the settings indicates there aren't any options to change the governor in the kernel.

Perhaps this is why Android battery life is reportedly inferior to that on Win 8.1? Better management of CPU frequency on Windows?
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] kroken123:
Just pulled the trigger on this one, teclast x98 3G 64GB version. Could anyone recommend a good cover/stand for it?
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SkOrPn:
No idea what is wrong, but several suggestions. Is it also not working in Android? If it works in Android then the controller should be OK.

Try this. Completely uninstall the controller, reboot, go back into device manager and see if it reinstalls it. If not, right click and perform a scan for hardware changes. It should find and install it back. If not, then maybe you need to reset windows or reinstall.

If all that were to fail then I don't know. Is there a reset to defaults in the bios? Maybe do that?

Good luck
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] nolive72:
thanks for the advice,will give it a try tomorrow since its getting late in Japan.

working well in android so nothing to do with BIOS update I assume.I should have mentioned my windows install crashed couple of weeks ago and I had to reinstall via recovery so it might be related.

will try as per your suggestion anyway

thanks again

olivier
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Hendrickson:
Freezing up? Sound like you have one of the bad Z3736F batches with a hardware GPU issue. There is a patch for this for Android, but not for Windows as far as I know.

You can get them for around $176 for the 32GB one now and yes, the Tab S has a better more premium build. But the Air 3G isn't bad, will it last 3 years? I don't see why not if you don't drop it of course. :)
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] perkinna:
There are a few references in this thread to the Taipower BIOS Utility. How do I translate the Chinese characters so that I can actually understand what is going on to press the correct buttons at the correct time? Is there an English language variant or equivalent that can be used?
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] maxedout56:
By metal shield i meant the metal cover between the back cover and soc. Your tablet also has it? I noticed some models have just a tape thing on them like on hendrikson's website. Is yours the same?

I still have not tried with the thermal pad yet between the back cover and and the metal cover. my temp on idle is around 35 now from what i see and with video streaming it goes up to 65. I think the thermal solution needs more improvement, clearly its a thermal issue since after the installation it works much better except for a few exceptions.

I will try it with the thermal pad in a few days and see if things improve. I think it should work fine after the thermal pad installation.

As for the intel gfx i used mine at balanced. I have attached the picture.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] MadNBG:
I installed an app which can translate pictures. I took a screenshot of the Taipower BIOS utility and fed it to the app. Awkward, but this worked for me (Chinese -> German). Welcome to the happy world oft China-tablet :)
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] KYU15:
I used to get thermal event regularly. Then I saw a guide about putting in heatsinks (copper sheets) to solve this issue.

There is the SoC chips, and a silicon thermal pad on the chip, half-heartedly slapped on. Then the collection of chips are enclosed in a snap-off metal shield. There is some space between the metal shield and the Aluminum backplate.

I used Aluminum, first a small piece on just the SoC pasted on with thermal paste, secured with insulatin tape, then thermal paste, then metal shield, then thermal paste, then a big piece of Al sheet, then thermal paste, then finally the back plate.

My backplate not gets PRETTY toasty 50+c (soc temp) when the tablet is underload, and I STILL ger thermal issues in different variations of the OS. At the moment I have mirek190 KK4.4.4 v3.1.

I believe Copper is the only way to go for us having thermal issues. BTW I use 0.5mm Al all the way.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] siezed:
yea on my version, the x98 air ii theres no shield between the soc and the back cover, simply a piece of thermal tape. it seems its only the 3g models that have that metal shield and people assume its to prevent interference. what did you idle at before the thermal plate was added?
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] nolive72:
couldnt sleep ah ah so I tried your method of uninstall the controller then install again but no joy

also tried to "refresh" windows but it didnt do the trick

I dont want to go through a full reinstall for now due to work and family commitments.

I think its the windows crash and reinstall I had few weeks ago which didnt go well,as it was all in chinese,I may have done one or two things wrong.

for example I have a bunch of what looks like drivers files in the Download folder,no idea what they are for?

is that possible to completely uninstall the sd card controllers and reinstall with generic drivers from Intel or Teclast?

I guess they are specific to the tablet and are signed in that way,I was looking at the 1st page of this thread but the Teclast drivers link in Mega is dead...

sd card storage is more important for me in Android but I cant ignore the need at some point in Windows when space is getting less and less on the main drive
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] frakctured:
Hi. I have the same issues. MIne is C8J7, with 2.02 bios and Win 10 Prof Preview

I thinking to try Windows 8.1 in other to see if it's a problem with windows 10

Somebody could give us some light?

Thanks!
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SkOrPn:
I've had 6 or 7 smart phones and one tablet so far and still have not damaged one. My Nexus 7 is still in premium shape but I take extra care with them. Screen protector from day one and it rarely ever comes out of the case. I see some reviews on the teclast that said it just stopped working on the 2nd day or the 3rd week or the 6th month. That is what I meant by will it last year's or not. So many in this thread are on the second device already.

I'm not interested in the 32gb model for a Windows tablet. For Android that would be Ok though.

I got some hands on time yesterday with the tab S and wasn't impressed. The build quality was great, nice and thin, but on stock 5.0.2 it really lags. Chrome seems to stutter and I installed lightning and it stuttered also when scrolling pages. The ui was smooth but in serious need of someone who knows how to organize a desktop lol. Samsung seems near brain dead with the way they have their launcher setup. I found myself immediately redoing the entire thing. After about 3 hours with it I am convinced even more that I want the Teclast instead. Just for the 4:3 aspect of it. I mostly just read on the tabs but the windows dual boot is a huge plus for me.

Thanks for the idea. And thanks for all your valuable insight into the tablet world bud. [emoji106]
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] royeiror:
I dumped the Windows drivers from my x98 Air II, you can get them HERE.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SkOrPn:
The difference between 24fps and 50fps is the difference of being "warm" and over heating. The extra work the system is obviously doing might have simply taken the system just out of its thermal threshold causing it to freeze. This means you probably always had a weak CPU/GPU chip, or weak thermal dissipation and 24fps just didn't stress it enough. Too bad we can't "dial in" a max frame rate setting so you can see where it starts to freeze at. Maybe you can play it at 35fps tops? lol
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] MaK11-12:
Bricked C8J6 BIOS 2.02

Hi all,

I managed to brick my Teclast AIR 3G C8J6 by flashing the 2.02 BIOS. The screen stays black. I also only have Windows 8.1 on it.

Is my only hope to buy a flasher and flash it with the BIOS backup I made or I there something else I can try?

I saw others flashing the BIOS on C8J6 devices and not having a problem. I wonder why I had a problem.

Thanks.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] mirek190:
Because almost every person who flash bios in windows on tablet don't know how to do it ...

That files on my google disk or somewhere else are designed for your pc to flash via usb in android ....

How do you did that ?

Have you used that bat file ? If yes you did wrong ...
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Robo11111:
I assume that you flashed it through windows. If you read a little in this thread, you would know it is almost 100% brick. Safest way is to flash through android.

Sent from Nexus 5 with Tapatalk
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] loubkt:
OK i get what you mean....but for example NFS mw run great under 4.4 and 5.0, doing a stress test does not freez the tablet at all... The back of the device is not even warm....

So im waiting for the GPU fix ?
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] dzikk:
This gpu fix will be always turned on? Or people who haven't gpu problem can turn this patch off?. P.s sorry for my mistakes

Wysłano z podziemi Mars City za pomocą osobistego PDA
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SkOrPn:
You should explain EXACTLY how and what you did so others can clearly see what not to do...
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] MaK11-12:
No I did not use a bat file, but a BIOS flasher from within Windows. It was recommended on here but I forget what it's called (four letters, began with f###.exe).

EDIT: it's ftpw.exe

I read some of this thread and searched through it. Some were saying the BIOS update worked flawlessly from flashing within Windows.

Maybe this is why my tablet got bricked?

EDIT #2:

Steps I did to brick my device:

- Backup BIOS with ftpw in Windows 8.1

- Flash BIOS with ftpw in Windows 8.1 (BIOS file from "X98 Air 3G Flasher Bios 2.02 - Works On 100 % On C5J6, C6J6, C8J7.rar")

- Reboot using software
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] dzikk:
I flashed too but via Mirek's tutorial and everything works fine

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[Teclast X98 Air 3G] mirek190:
Yes will be always turn on .

My c5j6 is unstable on RR3 ( 640 MHz gpu ) but if I reduce gpu to 600 MHz is full stable.

If you want use full speed you just remove gpu-fix from init.d folder .

But reducing speed by 40 MHz is not noticible.