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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Haha I have had a TON!!! Yeah I don't see much of an upgrade in lollipop for the note at least. I loved LP on the nexus 6 just no removable battery/sdcard killed it for me. Interesting story about the s6. I have had an edge and a regular. Did not like either one, one bit!! Camera and screen were good on both but no removable battery/sdcard once again was deal breaker. Not to mention they were too small for my taste. G4 is about as small as I want to go. I can't speak much on the G4 yet I have another case and screen protector that will be here wednesday then it will go to daily use so I can see how it is. And the original droid is the one phone i never cared for and never owned one believe it or not!! I waited for the Droid X as my first android!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] TechSavvy2:
I actually like my S6, but the battery life is just not up to par for me. At all. Tired of having to charge half way through the day. And I don't care what anyone says, having quick-charge does NOT make up for bad battery life, haha. I feel like a fool that I just found out the DevEd note 4 existed..... Bought mine the day I saw it (2 days ago).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
yeah man i hear you. yeah it charges quick but still cant go as quick as taking off the back and swapping a full battery. Sweet!!! Let me know when you get it and what firmware it is on now! I am curious to almost buy another one and compare with my old kitkat developer note haha
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] TechSavvy2:
I was actually just going to ask you guys that, haha. It actually showed up today, just unboxed it and getting everything set up.

So it came with LP pre-installed. So I have LP (unlocked) aboot. Has that been the case or am I a first? ;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
no no they all come like that. i need to buy one and try if you have good luck out of it lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] TechSavvy2:
To clarify, I know they all come unlocked. I just didn't know if the DevEd devices were shipping with LP on them yet. First thing I did when unboxing and turning it on was avoid any internet connection as I was freaked out it was going to immediately start downloading OTA in the background for LP and try and update me. Then I realized during setup that it was already preloaded with LP so I didn't have to worry about the OTA after all. :good:

Don't mind my laziness, is there currently a method to backup the aboot that does not involve rooting?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
haha ahh i gotcha man and i think they had lollipop almost on the same day verizon got updated. and i dont believe so i cant even remember the method i used.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
You can go back I did. You need root to backup shoot.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] TechSavvy2:
Yeah, I know I can always go back. I just didn't want to go through the process of rooting, backing up aboot, then ODIN'ing back to stock (I don't trust root uninstalls, usually remnants left behind). My OCD wants me to have a clean fresh image. Have to also go through the time of downloading the tars before I can even go through with it, haha.

Oh well, guess I already need to get the tars anyways, and would rather be safe than sorry, lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
If you buy a new one... I'll buy the old one. PM me if interested. Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
Once you get started its not that bad and your right better safe than sorry.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Haha how much? Lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
For you lollipop users does xposed work or no?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
yup, working great on JasmineROM
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
I talked to a guy the other day he said some stuff works but his phone was getting hot only one opinion though. I couldn't get it to work when I tried awhile back so I went back for that and didn't see much in LP to make me stay.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
I have a dozen xposed modules working on 5.0.1 just fine. IIRC there *are* some issues with 5.1 ATM but can't recall what that was. Wanam has released a Lollipop version that works perfectly, I have tons of stuff modified.

I was on the fence about Lollipop based on things I'd read and thought I understood, but now after having run it for the last month or so, I see no reason to even consider going back to KK. The phone (for me) is faster than it ever was before, and there are tons of great new tweaks and features, and, for me, most importantly, a Bluetooth problem I'd had from day one with the Note4 was resolved with moving to 5.0.x so that in itself would be for me reason enough to never look back.

You can revert to KK easily enough should you decide you don't like Lollipop, so why not give it a try.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bagery77:
This KitKat vs lollipop talk is giving me the itch to try it for myself. Anyone have any perfected app backup restore processes they care to share? I had Titanium zip method in mind but open to more streamlined suggestions as I do this very rarely. I've actually not even tried Titanium zip yet, only read about it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
you dont just use tibu pro and restore after you load the new rom?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bagery77:
I had been doing about the same with a different app all these years but haven't been a rom jumper since Rezound/GS3 with Clean Rom. Seemed to be the same process and time investment to restore. I've used Titanium to restore an app or two occasionally, just not all at once. If this is still as good as it gets, I'll stick with Titanium going forward.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
yeah i gotcha. tibu doesnt bother me too much
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
Titanium Backup has an option to create a flashable zip that installs apps and data in recovery. I use it all the time when i flash a new rom. However, in my experience, it can't create the zip if you put too many apps in it, so I only flash my "must have" apps in recovery, then restore the rest via titanium backup in the OS. If it wasn't for TiBu... I wouldn't ever flash new roms. Saves a lot of time and effort.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ganggreen777:
Anyone know of selling a developer edition a friend of mine took a shot in the dark in this forum and got a hit.... (yes I know about swappa)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
I can't tell if you have one to sell... or if you're looking to buy one. I've been looking to buy one for a while, but it keeps falling through.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcounts:
I used to use tibu for restoring my apps but also ran into the same problem. I still use it to backup my SMS and phone calls. I now use zipme to make a zip of my apps and it restores easily.

sent from my "Morom'ed" SM-910V
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ganggreen777:
Wanting to buy...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcounts:
Hahaha....

sent from my "Morom'ed" SM-910V
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] xdadevnube:
Samsung has some
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ganggreen777:
Don't want to pay like 600bux you know
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
They're 700 for the note 4... or 800 for the edge. Plus tax (if applicable)

So yeah... that's why I was looking second-hand as well.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ganggreen777:
Perhaps it might come down to who's hitting buy now button first if the price is right
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ryanbg:
Keep your eyes peeled on Swappa and eBay. In my experience, that's where I see them most being sold.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ganggreen777:
Obviously needing a developer edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] orcsbane13:
http://swappa.com/listing/WQL095/view for anyone interested. I'm selling my dev Edition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bagery77:
Well so much for that, haha, congrats!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
I found mine in this thread.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcounts:
Me too

sent from my "Morom'ed" SM-910V
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] orcsbane13:
Lol thanx. Yeah it sold pretty quick after I posted it here.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ilpleasu:
Wow! I have not been lucky enough to catch a Dev Note 4 on Swappa for sale.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
Now I suppose you could by the dev from Samsung's website and get the $200 rebate

samsungpromotions.com/notablesavings
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
I emailed their support within minutes of the deal going live and asked if that's a "qualified purchase." I have yet to hear back. If anyone gets confirmation, please reply here.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
They told me this

Basically nothing lol I even sent link of dev edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Does NOT qualify
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
I don't have a fancy screenshot from my phone, but I got this...

This came after I got one reply stating that as long as I pay the full price at a retailer, it would qualify. However, I questioned them to clarify if Samsung is considered a "retailer" since they only sell Samsung products, and they are technically the "manufacturer" in this case.

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Can anyone that owns a Dev Edition look under their battery... or on the box... and tell me what the model number is on their phone? If it's SM-N910V, then I don't think they can exclude the Dev Edition from the promotion.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] CrozB:
Model: SM-N910V UD

[IMG="Model"]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7032980/ForumImages/TEmpMote4Model.jpg[/IMG]
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
Hello,

Thank you for your interest in The Notable Savings Offer. The offer only applies to the regular Note 4. Editions like the Developer Edition, the Edge, or the unlocked version do not qualify. You may purchase your device from any retailer of your choice, including Amazon, eBay, Best Buy, Costco, etc. When purchasing your device from the retailer, please keep in mind that you will not be eligible for this offer if the retailer is offering another promotion. The device must be purchased at full price in order to qualify. Thus, the device can not be discounted or marked as on sale by the retailer. Please let us know if you have any additional questions.

Have a nice day,

PrizeLogic Support
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
As a former BestBuy employee... This is a classic rebate scam where they end up declining rebates long after the return period expires.

They didn't specify any of that in the terms & conditions, but God help you if you attempt an appeal.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
So... Can anyone now tell me what was on the RECEIPT for their Note 4 Developer Edition?

I got into a small debate with the Notable Savings people... and they said it matters what's on the receipt.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
i cant find mine shoot lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] icon123:
FYI guys, I'm selling a brand new, unopened Dev unit on swappa in case anyone is interested. Just got it last Thursday. I just can't switch from my nexus 6. I'm selling it full price, but you would save on tax and it comes with a new case and new glass screen protector. If I don't sell it tomorrow, I'll probably see if I can return it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ilpleasu:
How much?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] icon123:
$700
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jal3223:
What needs to be on it?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
icon123 has the invoice in one of pictures on his Swappa listing... and I can see it says "GN4 Developer Device" as the item. So... I guess PrizeLogic reserves the right to decline the promotion. Bummer.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rajamar:
Could not find on Swappa. Is it still available?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] icon123:
No sorry. I went ahead and returned it to Samsung.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
Upgrading from S3, anyone selling a Dev Edition Note 4? I can never find them on swappa.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] cam1pbell:
Wow my Dev just about updated by it self. I forgot to freeze SDM . Damn that was close. My guess it would have made it a retail phone?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Oh_wow:
Same here...not sure if the unlocked are the same??
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
If they are called "unlocked"....they mean "Sim unlocked".......people with Developers Editions know what they have and if they are selling they would say Developers Edition in the ad....they will probably be full price.

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kernel-ed/ TWRP 2.8.7.0.trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Oh_wow:
Thats how I was reading the ads..Thanks for the clarification:good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
What are the chances of a Note 5 DE?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
That's a good question, but another one, and for me, makes the first one moot, is that of the rumors the Note5 may no longer have a removable battery and also may no longer have removable storage. Both for me are absolute must-haves, and if the Note 5 does away with either, then I would be very unlikely to get one, even a DE. I do hope these rumors are not true. :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Yea. Removable storage is a must. I hate cloud storage as its a nice option but being able to save data to a microsd is awesome as well as one or more batteries.

I've been looking online to read into the note 5 as I am fed up with my iPhone. Debating on another DE note 4 right now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
Some argue the need for spare batteries has been or will be largely obviated... but... what about the occasional need for a battery pull when the phone just buggers up? I've on more than one occasion been unable to reboot a phone by a long press on the power button, and a battery pull being the only resort. With a non-removable battery, you'd just have to let the battery die, which could be a very long time.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bagery77:
I'm certainly not on the nonremovable battery bandwagon, but I thought I understood that nonremovable battery devices employed some sort of force shutdown method should the need arise. I could certainly be mistaken.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
Ahh that might explain why on my devices I have on occasion been unable to hard power off by the power button. I've never owned a device with a non-removable battery but your supposition would make a lot of sense. Thanks for that.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bagery77:
No probs :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dacapho:
I'm in need of a bit of clarification. I see a lot of people selling Verizon black Note 4, without the box, how can I tell if it's a dev vs. retail?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
Ask for a photo of the battery compartment with the battery removed, under the battery it will be stamped "Developer Device"
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] orcsbane13:
Better to ask for a picture of the download mode screen where it says developer mode. The batch i had gotten didn't have developer edition under the battery.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Oh_wow:
dm-verity verification failed

wrong place sorry
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Oh_wow:
delete
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] blubyu87gt:
Looks like they may have pulled the pages down for both the N4 and NE Developer Editions. Hopefully they come back up!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] teegunn:
Wow. I've been holding off on buying an N4 Dev until the N5 came out. Now it may be a moot point. I really hope they put the phone back up to purchase. I'll probably buy one as soon as they are available if they do.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tbparkey:
Maybe they will lower the price?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] blubyu87gt:
Hopefully they do! They showed like 84 last time I checked. Been debating getting another one to toss in a box till the current one dies. Since I likely won't be going to the Note 5.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
anyone have one for sale?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
Looks like *maybe* it is coming back? http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/ET-N910VMKEVZW
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] teegunn:
Good news! Looks like it should be coming back, and I think I will be getting one this time. If Samsung's intent was to get those on the fence (like myself) to get one out of fear that there wouldn't be any more to buy, then it may have worked on me. Although I doubt that is why the original page went down. It's not like they are selling ton's of DE's, especially in comparison to non DE N4's.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Yup, Looks like no longer available... Even called Sammy. They Said they are not expecting any more......
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
I called as well. They didn't know much. There were 83 in stock when they took it down, so they're floating around somewhere. I want one of them...

To anyone here willing to list their DE on Amazon... I'm a buyer at a good price. PM me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
I just got one on swappa
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ilpleasu:
How did I miss that one! How much?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
530 after shipping. Spigen neohybrid, otterbox defender, extra battery and phone. Has a small 1/4 inch scratch on the screen. But he'll can't get a phone anywhere.

Secret to finding it on swappa is Google search galaxy note 4 developer edition for sale and it showed up on good but not in swappa.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrPhant0m:
I've got enough amazon gift cards to buy one at full retail, so I've been trying to get someone to sell me one that way. I've seen them come and go on swappa, but keep skipping, hoping that I'll find someone to sell on amazon. Any takers?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bagery77:
Surely some DE owner is going to jump ship to the 5 and put you all out of your misery. I may just hold on to mine until it croaks. Everything else has been pretty underwhelming.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcounts:
Are they going to have a Note5 DE?

sent from my "Morom'ed" SM-910V
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Hey Gary,

Hows the ole note 4 de running for you? I regret selling it to you.... lol... Hope all is well.

i asked sammy when i called they said if they do it will be 799-999 full price... not worth it...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ilpleasu:
Not bad for the price. ....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcounts:
Hahaha..hey man! Running great for me...thank you. And you're right, that's a lot of money if its upwards of a grand! I'm happy with the note 4 but I think it'll be my last Samsung device. Watching Nexus 6 get ALL the attention drives me nuts. And the fact that retail probably won't get root hurt our chances for more development. Oh well.

sent from my "Morom'ed" SM-910V
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ilpleasu:
799-999! that's crazy man....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jal3223:
Agreed. I'm out.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Hilfey:
Surprisingly mine did not. It was on my doorstep for almost an hour. I refreshed my UPS tracking and saw it was delivered. They didn't even ring the bell.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
Mine just delivered to the house....but I am @ work :mad:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
That's great news as I might not make it home in time!

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:good:

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Wow! Confirmed, I just hit the page in a browser with no cookie, tried to add to cart, and shows backorder, out of stock! Dang!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
Here is pic of mine.....has developer on invoice, but not on box. I'll check it when I get home. My daughter took the pictures. ..of the paperwork also

Sent from my SCH-I605 / Galaxy Note 2 / JB 4.3 / Unlocked, Rooted, ROMed ..and AGNi-fied !!... using Tapatalk v 2.4.13
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
We're **** out of luck, even after informing them of the close-knit community of Note 4 developer edition buyers and the struggles we go through with locked devices which led to our quest for the holy Note and the double-benjy.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Oh well it is what it is...thanks for tryin
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Hilfey:
The outer sleeve doesn't say it, but the box inside the sleeve does (like my pic above)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
My S4 and S5 had Developer Device printed on the system board under the battery.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
This one does too. It was how I confirmed my unit to be the dev edition. Loving the pen on this one.

Edit: Some pics of the Dev Edition branding and the back cover disappointingly missing qi/nfc :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] doctor-cool:
Same for my note 4, Got it,

Syncing now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
As does my Note 3 DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
Nfc is in the battery. Even the retail version has the same back.

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This one has the same branding..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] doctor-cool:
On the Verizon web site it shows up as SAM Galaxy Note 4 Charcoal Black

I was part of the team that got the never released Motorola A4500 code named "Napoleon" it was going to be the replacement for the Motorola Q. That was back in the days when we were trying to get free GPS from Verizon.

The Napoleon would show up on Verizon's system as a Test Device. If you ever call tech support they can sometime tell what device you are using it is marked in the system.:cowboy:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
============

Me too....still have my Napoleon in my desk drawer....lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
Well, call me brave or stupid, I am very happy to report that openrecovery-twrp-2.8.1.1-trltetmo.img.tar flashed and boots recovery!

SU comin' up next, hopefully.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
That is awesome news! Thanks for being such a brave soul with your brand new N4!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
'course now, my bootloader shows "Custom" :P Muwahhahahha

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well I guess I shouldn't be surprised that neither the existing SuperSU apk nor tr.apk worked... so now it's a waiting game, but, at least I have TWRP, no, er um, WE have TWRP.

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Aside: Anyone know why Samsung decided to go back to a USB2 connector rather than stick with USB3 as with the note3?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] doctor-cool:
If you had done that with a stock Note 2 it would have got stuck in a boot loop right.

I want to be sure how to do this what did you do exactly, Please......

Shouldn't the first thing we do be Back It Up!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
ODIN openrecovery-twrp-2.8.1.1-trltetmo.img.tar

that easy. reading through the autocf thread now