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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
I got mine in the first batch, and mine has the "Developer Device" stamping on the sleeve as well as the box, and under the battery, but I too have two stickers.

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I would agree, everything was too flawless for this phone to ever have been used by anyone. It is definitely a little disconcerting to have two stickers, but, I guess that's part of the process of "converting" a retail device to a DE.

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Yup, that's probably the way it goes down.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Connecting a DE to Kies is not recommended, AND, do not take any update from Samsung or an OTA update. If you're rooted and have a custom recovery installed any update should fail, but you never know so why risk it. There have been many DE owners (S4, S5 and Note owners) that were running pretty much stock and took an OTA update or flashed/installed a firmware update designed for the retail version and turned their DE into a retail phone. DE owners should understand that Samsung has never released firmware or updates for their DE devices....never. It would be nice if they changed that policy for the Note 4, that would be great, but don't count on it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
I was also thinking about this...but i cant be sure. The phone is working fine, but again no markings on the phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
i am going to find this out tomorrow. text a friend of mine (verizon manager) some imei of note 4 devs (friend and mine) and going to see if they were ever activated before. not sure this will work cause imei changed but we will see
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
I am now starting to think that the Tivo streaming app may not work if it sees the note 4 as a "modified device". My DE arrives on tuesday and that is the first think I will try but thinking I may have to return and get a stock unit. But I will also try Foxfi tether on the DE as well with no modifications.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
im sure you can use xposed and root cloak to make tivo think it is unrooted
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bdorr1105:
I really hope you are right and totally made feel better about it all.

I get my developer edition tomorrow, they been in Stock since they came back or in other words for a couple days without saying they are on back order

Here is my story and how I missed out on the original. I had one ordered the instant it became available and I called and had bad information from Samsung and tons of issues where my orders got cancelled. So I called in again to reorder after I was double charged and then as I was ordering it was in Stock but the pos website kept saying I had an invalid address so I was like wtf.. After a hour in finally accepted the address that was the same the whole time and what I used the first time to place my order, went on back order before I could check out..... Screw Samsung...

Anyway I am happy to be getting mine tomorrow
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dingo 1979:
Check your mic's!

Please all check that your microphone is working in speakerphone mode. I received my note 4 dev edition yesterday, ran it stock for a day to make sure there weren't any kinks, then rooted this morning. Turns out that I hadn't made any speakerphone calls and sure enough my mic is not working for speakerphone calls. I'm starting another thread about it but a word of caution to all as I worry that I may now be SOL as far as any potential warranty exchange with Samsung at this point. Wish me luck.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Root cloak does not work on my s5
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
There are a few threads on this but the root cloak does solve the problem.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=55755929&postcount=315

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2678200
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
I did a "OK GOOGLE...." and it hears me just fine.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dingo 1979:
"Ok Google" works for me as well. My problem only manifests itself when making speakerphone calls. Also shows up when using the "meeting room" or "interview" mode of the voice recorder app. I'm pretty sure that only one of my mic's is malfunctioning and whichever it is, it handles speakerphone calls. My crude experimenting points to the bottom mic between the charging port and s-pen bay.

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....if I cover the mic hole to the left of the charging port, "OK google" can't hear me. If I cover the right, it works just fine.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] xxx42069:
There are so many people here claiming to have problems with their DE. Everything from lag to force closes, random reboots and various hardware failures. This concerns me and the problems seem more prevalent on the DE than the retail, though it may just seem that way. Anyway, mine will be here on 12/2 and I will consider myself extremely lucky to get one without problems. If it does have problems I'd be pretty bummed out because I have a flawless retail one that I will sell once I get my DE.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
Do you have a cover on it? Take it off, then talk into the pin hole on top next to the audio jack. The top mic is hot on speaker mode, and bottom mic is noise cancel in speaker mode. Vice versa when using normal mode. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Hmmm, well I guess I can't test that until tomorrow when I call someone.

As to the other post saying people with all sorts of problem....I'm problem free.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dingo 1979:
No cover on the phone. But thanks for clarifying on which mic is activated for the speakerphone. That will help a ton on troubleshooting. So does the bottom right mic ever pick anything up or is it solely for noise cancelling?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
Lags and FC's happen usually when folks tweak their setup: Freezing needed ap, exposed conflicts in Wan-am and gravity box.

The folks that are having problems are going to post, and might get help doing so. The folks that don't have problems aren't posting "everything is hunky dory".

Cheer up, DE's retain value, if you are not happy, or get board, sell it for close to what you paid.

I will post some things I like about the Note 4 DE. This phone is an improvement over the awesome note-3 DE. I have no regrets buying this over the Nexus 6 :)

Faster response, camera focus is fast, 64gb external SD holds all my stuffs, USB connection is way fast just MTP'ed 6GB of music in a few minutes, removable battery, unlocked boot loader, S-pen, S-health, beautiful display, great voice quality/noise cancelling, Latest VZW virtual VM with voice to text conversion, Xposed Torch on volume, Wanam long back press kill app, record calls...

Recovery and rooted in less time it took to put on the screen cover. This thing rocks!

Hope I cheered you up a bit ;)

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Try blowing it out, my Note-3 mic got clogged once :-0

The bottom Mic is active on regular calls, top noise cancelling. They switch when speaker phone is active. This really helps get rid of echo heard by callers. I still use voice for work so voice quality is critical. No echo, or ambient background :)

Cheers :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
I only had issues for the first few hours after flashing the debloated stock ROM. Once it settled in everything is perfect. No lags, no FCs...great device. I'm running xposed but have treaded lightly with modules as xposed introduces a huge new variable.

In short, don't sweat it...this is an awesome device.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
I still have yet to try the rom scared to try it lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
Running great for me and I had no lags from the get with rom. The developer is very helpful also
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
C'mon...dive in. All your friends are doing it! You want to be cool, don't you?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
maybe i will have to flash one night im not busy. i really wanna try it. wish there was a way to get recents button to be menu and long press menu or home button for recents but havent figured that out yet

haha well if you put it like that! :laugh:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
If you use titanium backup it doesn't take long to set back up
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
What happened to the AllianceROM? Not to hijack the thread, and I intend to flash the stock ROM to debloat... but that ROM was posted for while and pulled. I have it on my PC, but I'm really nervous about flashing Alliance if it was yanked for a good reason.

Anyone here have insight on that?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
You can change recents to menu - http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/general/verizon-note-4-dev-phone-remove-cd-t2924708 I have to say although I am used to having a menu key I am starting to like the recents for bouncing between apps (plus if you long press it you still get menu). As for the home key I am sure you can remap it or choose a launcher that offers it (Holo HD does...and also offers gestures...I chose swipe up to get menu solving the menu issue).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
yeah i dont like that i need to still have recents. dont know why they cant make menu on one tap and long press recents. makes no sense. should just be a simple code edit
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
There is no alliance ROM for the VZW Note 4. You do not want to flash whatever that ROM is onto this device.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] xxx42069:
Good points indeed. Thanks for that.

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Thanks man. So that Rom is working out well for you? I was debating flashing that or just debloating it manually bit by bit.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dingo 1979:
Thank you Radionerd!

Well I'll be d@mned if this didnt work. I took a sewing needle and poked around the top mic hole and it met some resistance but once I pushed through that it bottomed out against the mic and now the needle slides in smoothly. Sure enough all is good now with speakerphone calls and both left and right channels are coming through on recordings. Can't imagine what or how something got lodged in there as this is a brand spanking new phone. Thanks so much radionerd for pointing me in the right direction! Super happy with my note 4!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
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Thanks man. So that Rom is working out well for you? I was debating flashing that or just debloating it manually bit by bit.

The debloated ROM is running great. There were some delays with updating a few apps out of the play store during the first couple of hours after flashing (post 35 in the dev thread says there is an index app that runs after the flash) and I got some FCs on Kindle and Google Search but I updated them and they went away. Ran smoothly all day yesterday and going strong today.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bdorr1105:
I get my DE in a few hours, I am rooting immediately and flashing this ROM, I am pumped up
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
Thank you... that probably explains why it was pulled. I will delete it immediately before I do something STOOPID with it by accident and will flash this stock ROM.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mjlewis0102:
Anyone know if triangle away will work with this Note 4?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Nope doesn't. Tried
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] soukie:
***** Sold *****

Hey guys, I just got my Galaxy Note 4 Developer Edition today, if you interesting PM me. I play with the phone for about an hour. I'm not keeping it because the phone is too big for me coming from Moto X 2013. I will also throw in a Samsung Wireless Charging Battery Cover. Asking for $770 tax and two business day shipping included.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
Delete
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Mine arrives on Tuesday and I am going to try it stock to see if the Tivo streaming app will work. I will return it if it doesn't. I do not plan on rooting or installing xposed or anything. I am going to try foxfi tether and the Tivo app and then determine if I want to keep it or not.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
Not being rude but why did you chose the dev ed then
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
I didn't realize about the Tivo issue when I ordered it and i was planning to root and maybe try roms at some point but then I got the Tivo Roamio with streaming and realized the Tivo app is not very forgiving.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
I c. Ic
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] doubleplay648:
Hey guys I'm new to the forum and rooting. I think I may have screwed up big time. I was having trouble with the firmware on the note 4 developer edition. So I thought I could flash it back to stock firmware. I used Odin and flashed the official sm-n910v firmware. Now I'm having trouble rooting my device. Am I screwed? When doing this I did a total wipe before hand using twrp. I feel like an idiot and I have no one to else to turn to. What should I do?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
What trouble were you having? You may have turned your note 4 into a Verizon stock unit?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] xxx42069:
I'd much rather have a killer rooted debloated phone than the tivo app but hey, to each their own. Hope it works out for you.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Having trouble with the firmware is a bit vague. What kind of trouble caused you to take such a drastic action.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
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You probably turned your DE into a CE...

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Rooted / TWRP 2.8.1.1 trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Is it reverse alchemy when you turn gold into lead?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
I hate to say this, but if you flashed firmware then you now have a retail version of the Note 4. The only firmware available, that I have seen, is retail firmware. Flashing a retail firmware will lock your bootloader, that is why you're having trouble rooting. I'd bet you also lost TWRP. All you can do now is hope they find an exploit to root the retail version of the Note 4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidstyle:
The first thing you should of done is read the forums before ever flashing anything to your device. You just turned your DE edition into a locked retail...You might be able to send it back to Sammy and get it re-unlocked. Also Ryanbg might be able to help you. PM him...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
....ouch! :( You now have a non-developer edition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Samsung will not do anything to help. We're supposed to be developers, remember [emoji1]
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
can you boot into TWRP - Phone off hold home volume up and power? If you can boot to that, you may be able to flash the one rom available for now and get you going.. if you can't get into TWRP, then you have converted your device to a retail edition note 4.. could always try calling samsung...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Poloasis:
Did you create an initial backup right after you installed TWRP?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jam2315:
So did we ever decide to accept or decline the security update...only remember one person saying they accepted if
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bdorr1105:
If you Odin the official Rom pretty sure it locks the bootloader and places the stock recovery, I feel sorry for you that is a retail note 4 again
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
After reading that several people accepted it with no ill effects, I also accepted it. I still have root and there have been no other adverse impacts.

Sent from my rooted Verizon Note 4 Developer Edition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bdorr1105:
I have not accepted it because I Lost my ability to write or download from Dropbox to my phone for unexpected or explained reason... I am not sure if it was the cause but I had to reflash now I am solid
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fx3s:
Everything is hunky dory:good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
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I "defrosted" the updater apk and accepted it....no issues.

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Rooted / TWRP 2.8.1.1 trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] xxx42069:
Wow! I'd be absolutely gutted if I did this. What a bummer.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
Yeah DoublePlay, sounds like you locked your bootloader and now have a full retail Note 4. It's unfortunate that, in your haste, you missed the warnings to that effect in the firmware post.

Moving forward, there IS this nugget of hope, if you want to try it:

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/development/potential-to-recover-note-4-bootloader-t2934493

Be ready to own a $700 brick if it fails... but if it succeeds you might just have your Note 4 DE back. Just a thought. Good LUCK!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
I have the same BNIB if anyone wants info PM me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] DrSarcasmo:
Now that I'm rooted and want to stay that way, what apps do I freeze on the phone to stop OTA updates. As I understand it Lollipop will lock up our bootloader so we won't be able to root again. I used Titanium backup and just froze the apps that updated my Note 2. Which one do I do that to on the Note 4?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bjmjpl:
Just read that an update 4.4.4 was pushed that includes files for the upcoming gear vr which is the main reason I bought this phone....

Well we not be able to get this update and keep root?

Anyone else interested in the gear vr?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
Yeah we just need the files

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Someone with kies and a retail unit needs to grab them and post the tar. I sold my retail so I can't
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
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You freeze the same ones on the Note 4......but DE'S have never gotten an OTA in any of the other versions. ..so I doubt we will get one...

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Rooted / TWRP 2.8.1.1 trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
Unless you have flash a stock CE base system. Had one try minutes after restoring my note 3 . Quickly deleted it. Not sure it would actually update or not.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] plainbum:
If retail version doesnt get root before lolipop comes out, what will that mean for custom roms for this DE? Like will the sheer number of roms be smaller than lets say the Note 2 had to offer?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bdorr1105:
Yea, we're previous editions official Verizon ROMs... I know mine is retail version turned into a DE them dirty bsstards, I don't have DE etched under the battery... I am confident that the Lollipop update notification will pop up... I am not updating, I would like to know how to freeze it
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
Everyone's DEs are retails turned DE. The only difference is that they flashed us with a different software verison. If you want it I can give it to you. That's the only difference as long as you have the unlocked bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bdorr1105:
No I am fine I believe you
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] doubleplay648:
Thank you The-Chief, it is unfotunate that i made such a stupid mistake. I was careless and this was my first android phone ever. I miss having root on my phone and will attempt to try and recover my unlocked bootloader anyway possible. Im sure samsung will be of no help. My other option was to sell the note 4 and use that money to get a DE when they're back in stock. Do you guys have any suggestions for someone in my situation?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
If anyone else is having serious battery draining problems on stock system, looks like G+ AND Google music are the culprits. Delete and redownload. I was looking at 2 hrs screen time where now I'm at 5.5 + just from that.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Haven't experienced that myself. I've been loving the battery life honestly. I was plugged it and at 100% when a friend called. I unplugged to answer it and had a 14 minute phone call. When I hung up, it was still at 100%.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] igknight:
I had many issues with G+ and battery drain on my old Note 2, nothing so far with the 4. As to G Music, I always freeze that.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
Yeah I deleted it a month ago when I got it but got the same thing when flashing the deodex rom and just thought I would throw it out there.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SeanPlunk:
Someone did the same thing with a Note 3 DE last year. I believe it took a couple conversations with Samsung, but they eventually issued him a refund if memory serves. I don't believe there is any way for them to unlock the device again unfortunately.

I would call Samsung and ask to speak to a manager.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Id just tell them its not unlocked and you tried it over the weekend. Due to the holiday you could only call on monday and see if they swap it...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
I would highly disagree with them being unable to unlock it. Being that my DE has a new serial number sticker on the box, over an old one draws me to one conclusion. The DE phones were standard issue ready to ship to Verizon phones, before Samsung pulled them, wiped them, reinstalled the software with an unlocked bootloader, and then shipped them. If they wiped them once, they can do it again. Would they do it for a normal Note 4? NO! Perhaps for a N4DE? Maybe?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SeanPlunk:
My understanding is each unlocked device has it's own specific key and thus there is no way for Samsung to send you one. If they started emailing out a universal unlock then it could be used for any locked Note 4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Oh, I would highly agree with you there. Dude might have to ship it back to Samsung, but what I was saying is that THEY can re-unlock it. Will they...that's the question.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SeanPlunk:
I hope they hook him up, it would be asinine to not help someone that just paid $700+ for a device. Considering the lack of support from Samsung this seems like the least they can do.

This is why I moved to a Nexus 6 from a Note 3 DE. The Note 4 has a higher quality screen, but the lack of support from Samsung swayed me away from a Note 4 DE.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
What is the quickest way to just check if the bootloader Is unlocked?