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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
Take lots of embarrassing photos now. Trust me, you'll want to use it to ruin their teenage lives when they act up :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Zekial:
Anyone else having payment problems with Sammy's website?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Make sure we get a pic of that for sure! Congrats!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
I did, every time I hit pay it said something like "check/edit payment information". So I'd check and click again. Turns out every time I clicked, it tried placing the $1.00 on my card, so my company suspended my account. Lucky I checked my card online right away to make sure nothing was up! I could see the 7 charges, so I called in to re-activate my account and tell them it was really me and I was just trying to buy a phone. Had a nice chat with my Capital One rep about the Note 4, he was pumped the developed edition was available and said he was ordering as soon as he got a break to upgrade from his Note 2 haha. As soon as I OK'd everything, he dropped the original 7 charges, had me click pay again while he was on the line to make sure we were solid, and it went right through.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
I had the exact same problem when I bought my S5 6 months ago. It has something to do with the point of sale software and credit card verification.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urmcgwy:
Yeah, happened with me too. Called my credit card and it turned out that they issued a new card number to me without telling.

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My UPS info got updated finally past the billing info being posted. My package was picked up and departed Mesquite, TX around 8 pm to be delivered tomorrow. I'm expecting to get my 1 day shipping refunded...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Boss428man:
Mines coming Monday, Darn ;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Do any of you guys think this 200 credit will work with samsung on our developer editions? https://samsunggalaxypromotions.com/Note4/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
I wish, perhaps tomorrow one of us (possibly me) can call them tomorrow and convince them to let us trade in our phones to the closest carrier or participating store to get the deal. The stipulation in the fine print on https://samsunggalaxypromotions.com/tradein is that you must make the purchase and the trade-in on the same receipt. However, there was no possibility of doing the trade-in with the Samsung distribution chain for our Note 4 developer edition. Perhaps outlining the flaw in their distribution channel may convince a higher-up to allow us to participate in this trade-in promotion. I certainly would love the $200 for an old junker lying around.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Snake-Plissken:
Quick question...

what is the difference again between the regular Note 4 and the dev Edition? unlocked bootloader?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
Yep....unlocked bootloader...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Go for it...let us know what they say.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Ragnell:
haha yeah that's where I got the info, thanks a million.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
Don't forget to backup your aboot!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Ragnell:
Just did it ;), so I have Twrp, Root, A nandroid stock backup and a aboot backup, I think I'm ready to go!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Ragnell:
Which sound hack are you using?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
This one...it's the Note 4 TMO Loud. Flash in TWRP and upon reboot sound will play from both the rear speaker and the phone speaker in front...definitely an improvement in sound.

http://xdaforums.com/note-edge/development/mod-sm-915t-surround-sound-t2955648

Beyond that I use Xposed...

Wanam for a bunch of things

GravityBoxKK to swap the menu and recents

Complete Action plus to customize the "share with" or "open with" lists

Boot manager to control what starts up

APN settings to change DPI on my launcher and a few other apps

TabletMetrics to allow unlimited skipping of songs on Spotify
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Ragnell:
Thanks thats really helpful.

Is there a Xposed module that controls permissions of all the apps on your phone?

Also I remember seeing a thread with a list of mods for the Note 4 with things such a a 4 way reboot menu screen, Anyone know where it went or am I confusing it with the SG5
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Xprivacy lets you do per app permissions...great module but I think I just gave up on privacy awhile ago haha.

Wanam has a 4 way reboot option in "System".
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] :
No problem, I'm glad to help.

I did multiple times. I even made a flashable tar for Odin along with a full backup with EFS. Then I burned them to a CD and copied them to a few different drives. I'm not taking any chances loosing anything that came with the phone out of the box.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Ragnell:
I've tried that and every time I hold down my power button my entire phone just shuts down and reboots, are you using Wanam kit or Xposed?

edit:

Ok I see I was using the wrong one, Xposed is working
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] JustSomeRandomGuy:
My Note 4 DE came in yesterday. Haven't had a chance to root it yet. Hopefully I don't mess up when I do. One thing I plan to fix is the lack of homescreen looping/wrapping. Having to change directions to go from one side to the other is driving me crazy! Also, is there a way to have the app tray be an alphabetized list instead of separate screens (either natively or via root)? Aside from these two issues I’m enjoying this phone.

Anyway, hopefully others have taken advantage of that coupon code I posted to get the free battery pack. They sent me a white one even though the phone is black. Oh well, free is free! LETBP is what they told me to share for what it's worth.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
Use a different launcher; I use Nova personally. It allows looping home screens, also list view for apps. For the list, go into nova settings then Drawer -> Drawer Style and select List.

I'm not sure if the stock launcher goes to a looping homescreen layout if you turn off the flipboard page. But no option for a list of apps in the stock launcher.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
+1 on what ^^said
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
Agreed...TW launcher sucks...there are modded versions floating around for what you're looking for, but a good lightweight launcher is better. I either use Google with XGels or Apex...depends on if my theme changes my search bar..if it does I use Apex, but Nova is good too.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urmcgwy:
Yeah... My fingerprint scanner died for no reason, but it looks like a hardware issue. Holding onto my DE tho, not worth restoring and going through warranty

Sent from my unlocked and rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 4 DE!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jley22:
So. I've been tossing around the idea of buying the DE Note 4 for like 3 weeks now. I've had in my cart with all my info plugged in with my mouse hovering over the "Purchase" button about 7-8 times now. I have read a ton, and I know how awesome having an unlocked bootloader will be. I currently have a retail Note 4, and I still have my Note 3. I can sell both and mitigate the cost of the DE almost entirely. I have also heard rumors that samsung has left prior DE phones in the dust in the past, and that I may not get as many updates. However that shouldn't mater much with custom ROMs.

With all that said, and buying of the DE Note 4 being completely within my financial capability, is it worth it? Will it make a notable difference over the retail, even after the retail gets root?

Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] smaut3:
Any update

Has there been any progress on the lollipop or root for the Dev Ed Note 4? I've been looking to get one for my wife but not until it's baked enough to jump over.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
If your wife likes flashing stuff(no pun intended I swear) then no. There's a nice handful of custom Roms and kernels but at the moment and until the retail gets root there's not enough interest in us for a bunch of roms and stuff like on the Tmo side. But then again there's all the benefits of having root...and Xposed. To me it was worth it simply because I buy my phones in cash so getting one subsidized on a plan but without a root or bootloader exploit wasn't worth the agony of waiting for said exploit.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
Developer Edition out of stock

Developers are out of stock, on back order.

You snooze you lose
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
For Sale: first on top of sig ↓↓

Soon as my buddy Shamu gets his lazy ass here.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] smaut3:
Thanks for the note. I have an S5 and keep it with mostly stock, root, SD permission update. We like to take our data from device to device with TB. So an unlocked BL with root and lollipop is where we are trying to get to. I could get her an S5 DE like I have but she'd prefer the larger screen. I'll do all the updates for us both.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Blows the retail version out of the water. Even if you just root and use Xposed there is so much you can mod that improves the experience.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jley22:
Thanks a ton for your input!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] :
When lollipop gets released for the retail version and the tar file is available for download then it can be made safe for us. It will root with superSU as long as TWRP still works witch I'm pretty sure it will. For now we have to wait until it gets released.

EDIT: To correct myself, TWRP will work so it's just a matter of when VZW releases it. I'm used to using SafeStrap with a locked bootloader so I get mixed up in my thinking sometimes.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Ragnell:
Has any of you have the issue where you can't take a picture while in a call? I'm using Wanam to bypass it but it's not working for whatever reason
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
Oh yeah..I'm on Lollipop. I'm running Mod57's Beanstalk with Zion's kernel. Those are CM12 based. You guys seem to probably lean towards TW but if you get the N4 DE its worth a try. I like stockish lollipop better than TW's plus now that Xposed works with LP I get my YouTube commercials blocked and whatnot. Plus its way faster than TW...no more lag...yes I've come across small amounts of lag with TW .

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Yes TWRP definitely works with lollipop.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
I absolutely agree with what tfly212 says. A rooted Note 4 and exposed framework installed running some of the exposed modules blows any of the phones currently on the market away. As for root for the retail version...I don't think we're ever going to see that. Sorry retail owners.

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I haven't read the post about CM12 in a couple of days. So, have they got the data, LTE and boot problems figured out yet. The last I read it was a crap shoot when it came to what works and what doesn't and CM behaved differently on every phone (strange).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
Yeah its odd..we haven't gotten it figured. He's been building with the same source and for example I started with the 2/2 build and it was perfect.. then dirty flashed over that..no problems. But not everyone is having the same luck it seems..it's weird. But again mine is awesome so I haven't even looked to TW in forever. I probably should've stuck with the clean 2/2 since I had outstanding battery on that...still good with dirty flashed later builds but not as great. I'm more than happy though.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Hopefully they'll get it figured out and we'll have a stable build of CM for the Note 4 DE pretty soon. I'd love to finally have a CM build that worked on a phone I owned. It seems every phone I've had over the past few years has never been supported with a

STABLE

CM build. I'm glad it's working for you.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
And every day without root for the retail version slightly reduces the chances it will ever happen....the devs that put all the work into coming up with a root method will eventually stop trying and go where there skills can actually be used. Even though I have the DE and it doesn't impact me directly, the fact that these retail phones are getting so locked down makes me nervous for the long term...future phones may not offer dev editions and then we will all be screwed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
You're absolutely right. I was kinda of surprised that Sammy offered the Note 4 in a Developer Edition. It will be interesting to see if Sammy offers a DE S6 and and DE Note 5 in the coming months.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
But see Samsung never locks their bootloaders so it won't be a problem...Verizon,AT&T, ext lock the bootloaders so we just need to be rid of them or pressure them into leaving the phones we pay good money for alone...bastards!!! Lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
They better offer a note 5 developer edition that's my next phone since nobody has a phone over 5"
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Ragnell:
Anyone getting this issue, it's driving me insane that I can't use my camera during phone calls, Wanam Xposed option isn't working either, any solutions?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] :
Maybe it's something to do with Xposed. I'm running Rick's ROM with no Xposed installed and it works fine for me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Ragnell:
Yeah, it seems to be something with Xposed....thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Sold
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] blubyu87gt:
On top of that, I am hoping the Note 5 doesn't follow the Galaxy S series and ditch the removable battery and storage.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Yeah you aren't kidding if it does I have no clue what phone I will be using
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but if I can root the phone, remove bloatware and ditch the TW interface with Apex Pro Launcher, I really don't mind about the removable battery... it's not THE deciding criterion for me. Sure, if I decide to ROM the phone and there's a bootloop, removing the battery is an easy way to get out of it and back into Recovery. But if there is another solution for the Note 5 DE, I'll likely keep it as stock-based as possible to maintain S Pen and Gear VR functionality.

Sure, I hope the battery is removable: but with the advancements in wireless charging and processor efficiency, I have a feeling that removable batteries will quickly become a thing of the past on Samsung flagships. I would almost bet a paycheck that the Note 5 Edge will be sealed, if not both.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
I think you are probably right about the future of batteries and the advances definitely make it less critical (I had a droid charge that I couldnt have lived without a backup).

The situation where a backup is great is when I am on the road, especially overseas where charging isn't always as easy. I'm out all day using my phone and just have time to run up to my room before heading to an evening event...swapping batteries at that point gets me to 100% in 30 seconds.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
While batteries are getting better i still want a removable one and go from 0%-100% within seconds swapping one. It is just so much easier. Sdcard slot is HUGE to me too. I was planning on buying S6 developer edition to try out the octa-core. Now I am just not sure guess we shall see
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
I have a S5 which I don't use. I think that the S5 will hold it's value since the S6 with a sealed battery and no sd card sucks. My DE note 4 is great but I fear that the Note 5 will be sealed. It's too bad that Apple scared samsung into making sealed phones.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
I think its all a money thing a removable battery and an external card make for a long lasting phone. Which Samsung doesn't want theybwznt you to buy phones.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
Good point, Wooddale.

If the Note 5 throws out the SD slot in favor of a 128GB internal memory option. I may very well pass. That

IS

a determining criterion for me. We all know that VERIZON* will not offer the 128 version... and I doubt that any Developer Edition will come with it. A DE model will be 32GB... 64 if Samsung is feeling really generous (and Samsung probably won't feel really generous). But 128? Not likely... in fact, I'd be STUNNED if a 128 DE were offered.

*-Had to spit the name out :p
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] kheltek:
I noticed that the note 4 DE is sold out again. I am strongly considering selling my Developer edition-i love the phone for many reasons but it's too big (that's what she said lol). I'm a runner and like to have a phone with me in case of anything. Bought the gear s thinking it would solve the issue but the battery is garbage. I don't think I'm allowed to explicitly sell anything here and would need to list both the phone and gear s on swappa or elsewhere. Nonetheless, I wanted to share my thoughts with the community since you all have been so kind in answering my questions, etc. You can always inbox me if you are interested in buying either device While I post it on swappa.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
i hear you i sure hope the Note 5 isnt sealed and currently i dont think it will be. They know that us note users love it and it doesnt directly compete to iphone like s4/s5/s6 do

I completely disagree with this point. Think about it. Sure it makes for a long last phone BUT they sell batteries, sdcards for those phones. Take it a step further as well wireless charging backs, external battery chargers, replacement backs, flip cases, etc. I mean they sell a wireless back for what $50? They probably have $5 in it if that so they make very very good money selling those to us (even when we have a 50% coupon)

I really wish the developer device would have an option for more GB like the S6. I am interested to see what the S6 developer edition comes with. My bet is on 64 GB and i may pick one up if it is in fact 64 or 128. 128 GB might be enough memory for me well maybe idk
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wooddale:
You couldn't buy enough batteries and backs to add up to a new phone. Also think how much if that stuff is after market which Samsung gets nothing from. I use my Note4 pretty heavy I always get 5 to 6 hrs sot 12 to 14 hrs on so battery is not an issue and like you or some one said with the new chargers its fast. I don't have a lot of music or games so storage not a problem for me. Think about it the only reason is money. It makes you have to buy a new phone every two years at least. Also every Carrier is coming out with deals to make you buy them even sooner.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
Yep... just because they make a $5 accessory like a battery or a cover and price it at $50 doesn't mean we'll BUY it. They probably have a warehouse full of old model covers and batteries that were never sold. Why not seal the battery and sell the phone without manufacturing a bunch of batteries and covers that may never sell? They KNOW phones will sell. And they're pretty sure that enough people (like us) will buy the next gen phone, even though our current phone works fine.

As far as memory goes: I must be an absolute memory HOG. My 128GB card has about 38GB free... and that's only because I deleted movies I never watched and I move older backups to the PC. If the Note 5 DE comes out with 128GB internal memory AND a microSD card slot for another 128GB, count me in. SAMSUNG, shut up and TAKE MY MONEY! :D

Removable battery: I think we can HOPE for it... but I doubt very seriously that we'll get it. Samsung isn't sealing the battery to keep up with Apple... they're sealing the battery because they're confident that their battery technology has reached a point that swapping out batteries will be wholly unnecessary. They do not base their decision to make a battery removable or not on developers and modders like us - who would LOVE a removable battery because of potential bootloops - because we make up such a microscopic minority of users. Out of millions and millions of phones sold, how many of those are sold to modders like us? A few thousand at best?

Nope, I fear sealed batteries are here to stay. We'll have to come up with other ways to come out of a bootloop... then again, Samsung and the carriers are trying to render our kind extinct with better stock experiences and encrypted bootloaders. Not to start a war or go off topic, but I predicted some 2 years ago that we were less than 5 years away from a time when there will be no more rooting & ROMming. And I think it's getting close.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] kheltek:
Really sorry everyone. Wife won't let me sell...yes, I'm whipped. Lol. Working on it and will post on swappa if this changes.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
You could buy enough just be a lot LOL and i am lucky if i use the same phone for 6 months anyways! (and i dont buy from carrier everything if off contract)

True it doesnt mean we will buy it but how many times are they accessories out of stock? a good amount i still cant buy a spare s-pen because its on backorder. Trust me a company like samsung doesnt have much inventory sitting around they know what they sell. They have a whole dept to figure that out.

Haha I am too! I have 50 GB left on my 128 gb sdcard. tons of mods, roms etc that i need to flash along with probably 10k photos etc. Oh man that would be sweet 128 gb internal and an sdcard slot holy grail of phone storage! :D

For sealed batteries i never had a problem with m7/m8/n6 with bootloop or hard reboot always did vol down and power and it would reset anything
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jal3223:
How hot was yours getting by the way? I've noticed mine will hang around 40-50c idling and small tasks but upwards of 65c or more if using the camera or surfing the net via Chrome. That seems a bit warm to me but I'm not sure what the normal temps are with this device.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
WOW that is like idling at 104 to 122 F??? thats stupid hot and then jumps to almost 150?!?! that is crazy. the one i have now wont go above 100 F even when camera or watching videos/playing music etc. never heard of one that warm. the two i sent back were 90-100F idling and increasingly hotter with tasks. that was way hot for my taste

Edit here is a photo of my temps the start is overnight
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jal3223:
Thanks for the reply man. Yeah, I was thinking it was a little high. I'm going to flash back to stock and see if it improves any. I think they are sold out at the moment and I'm not sure if they are getting more in to exchange with me. Hopefully I can get it settled without having to wait forever.

What app are you using to test the temp by the way?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
Once I did a TWRP backup using compression, temp rose quickly over 70c, then up over 80c, to 90c. My note4 peaked at 92c during the backup. I almost tried to pop the battery out to abort, but decided to let it complete. It completed the backup ok. I don't think I will try to backup with compression again ;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dirtyjersey856:
Only time I ever had a problem with overheating was my initial charging of my Note 4's out of the box..both my Tmo Note and my Vzw Note both heated up decent (like the glass was hot) when I charged them for the first time...never after.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jal3223:
I just realized that the picture displays the battery temperature. I was referring to the cpu temp. Could you download CPU Temp from the market and see what it says it's running at for me please?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
I just did a few Antutu benchmarks, CPU got up to 79c during the third benchmark.