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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shawnten:
so how are all of you with the dev addition going to upgrade to lollipop if the dev addition doesnt get updates
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
I for one am not worried about lollipop. I just want my phone rooted to run certain apps and want to modify certain things.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Did a factory reset, flashed TWRP, made a stock backup, rooted, made a rooted backup and now...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
glad you received it. I'm shocked they have sent this many out not etched.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] igknight:
Until Lollipop hets Xposed I could care less about it, even then, not that big of a deal for me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] untouchablez:
Most likely hope & pray one of the developers hooks them up. As far as I know Beans did a lot to help the N3 DE community but he's done with Samsung devices on Verizon so who knows at this point. There may not even be an update to lollipop for the N4 DE sadly.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
The retail version and the DE are exactly the same phone with the exception of the bootloader. You get the same apps and yes, the same bloatware......and at no extra charge:)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] munkle:
I missed out on the note 4 de, it was instock last night but I really wanted to try out a demo of the nexus 6, went to the tmobile store to test it out and its just too big. Sadly now the note 4 de is out of stock, maybe by the time it comes back in stock motorola will announce a droid turbo developer edition, that's what I really want, but if not, then I will pick up the note 4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mjlewis0102:
I hope and pray mine is etched when it comes on Friday!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Exactly. Plus we won't get Pure Android Lollipop, but under a layer or TouchWiz, thus 99% of it could look 100% the same as now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
Does the DE come with a piece of thin plastic over the camera lens? It sort of looks like it, as if its there for lens protection but I don't remember having that on my retail n4. It looks like some air bubbles are trapped under it but I can't find an easy place to pull it up and I don't want to force anything.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] texasez:
How many DE were sold this time?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
Yeah, my DE had the camera lens plastic, but my retail n4 didn't.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
Weird, thanks.

Does anyone else feel like their home button has more resistance to it than the retail version? It's a much louder click and it takes a considerable more amount of effort to press down.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
YAYYY!

Got mine today! Full charge. ready to rock!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] csstamatin:
Check ur temp when backing up. Mine got real hot. Everything seems fine, but I'm not sure that twrp is all ready for our devices. Mine hit 80c. Witch is the hottest I've ever seen a phone get. Anyone else confirm getting hot during backup?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
I've had mine since late October and it has not overheated during TWRP backups (and I've done many).

Sent from my rooted Verizon Note 4 Developer Edition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
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Me also....and I was a tester for the VZW version for bigbiff...tested the pre- release...and the release version.

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Rooted / TWRP 2.8.1.1 trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] csstamatin:
K it might just be reading wrong. Gets up to 80c, but rebooted and said 45c. Also didn't feel that hot. Hopefully it's just wrong reading. What version are u guys running? I'm running the Verizon version. Gonna try the tmobile.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
I'm running the Verizon version and I know manbat is, too.

Sent from my rooted Verizon Note 4 Developer Edition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] csstamatin:
Thx. Reflashed and I'm gonna try again when it's charged. Thx for quick replies!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Alright, she's fully charged. I'm going to follow the directs here: http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/development/how-to-custom-recovery-root-t2923340

Wish me luck!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] RedCrow101:
Thanks for getting us back on track and reminding us that we're all part of the same group. This is my first DE phone, and I've never done any development, but would love to use this opportunity to learn how to do ROM development. I'd also like to learn as much as I can and help others with their builds. Here's looking forward to some awesome, creative work.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
I'm SHOCKED i received it. Again the tracking didn't say it left samsung. I'm a little worried that when i go to resell people won't think it is a developer edition phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
Did mine noon est. Now I'm going to get super excited everytime my notification goes off lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
Maybe so, but I have to think then you'll get it no later than Wed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
Yeah, I hope so. I'm just glad they are shipping already. That is much better than waiting until the "coming soon" status changes to available.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] krishelnino:
Does this work on AT&T

Hi, Can anyone tell me if I can use an ATT sim on this? Are the Verizon devices SIM locked ?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Blackiisky:
I ordered one earlier today as well and got an email later confirming my order and then much later an email with a tracking number (just adding in that I also got my tracking number in a email.)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
Yes, but you won't get LTE. Here's a comparison of the different bands that each variant supports: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yROXSILlLIZuZw3HmoRJDnRn1CVkJFtBt5OOR5YxqJk/edit#gid=0

T-Mobile variant would do well for you, unless you need Band 20 (not sure where AT&T has what deployed). Euro version would be great as well, as it has everything needed for AT&T plus one additional 3G band (UMTS 900). Both of those versions should be unlockable/rootable from the get-go, since it's really just VZW and AT&T that lock everything down hard.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] krishelnino:
Thanks for the reply. But i am being tempted to buy the 702$ VZW Developer Edition, which i have in my cart now. It's a great deal.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
I mean, if you don't need LTE, yeah it's a great price haha
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
Dudes! Are you serious!!!!???!?? I'm going back to Verizon tomorrow returning my note 4 and ordering this bad boy! Keep us updated with your shipments!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
What time did you order yours?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
Mines ordered. Will be selling a note 3 soon. Can't wait. Stupid tax. Extra 40 dollars. Stinkahs.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Menchelke:
Thanks to the google cached method, I got mine ordered this evening as well. About 30 minutes ago.

Thank god, I almost bought a retail one from my work with a 10% discount. I might have saved like $50 going with retail, but I really need root to enable the wifi tether. My phone is my primary internet, and Verizon likes to block it if you have an unlimited data plan.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urmcgwy:
Good to see the cached method worked for people (likely my first contribution to XDA vs just asking for stuff from the awesome devs). ETA tomorrow! And then return stock Note 4 the next day!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wyatt57350:
I ordered mine about 1100 CDT with overnight shipping. I received a tracking number from UPS with an ETA of 10/28. However, it just looks like UPS had only recieved notice of my package, I've yet to see any indication that they have it or that is on the way. Does any one have any indication that their package has made any progress other than a label was made?

Wyatt W.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Link doesn't work

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Bad link
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Rootuser3.0:
Look at Verizon note 3 development lol why would a note 4 be different?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
So your saying go to the note 3 developer order page and you will get a note 4. I doubt that.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
Ordered at 1230 with overnight. No tracking. Bummer.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Hilfey:
Ordered mine this afternoon thanks to this link and got confirmation and the UPS shipping info received notice right away. Big thanks to you and ummmm not so much from my wife (since she didn't know I was ordering).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Anyone know if Foxfi wifi tether works on the note 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidrev71:
I hope it is too.

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Yah that's a tuff call. If it were me I'd send back to get the etching done. You can always prove with pics but having it etched is important imo.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] igknight:
Anyone else having slowness issues? It seems to be that the first time something tries to access root it takes like a minute or two before it pops up asking if I want to grant it or not, once I do, for the most part everything is fine.

Doing a restore with Titanium atm, ifs running fine, but the first time I tried to run it, it just took forever for it to ask for root permissions.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pentafive:
Finally got mine! Recovery and root are all done with no issues.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jam2315:
Got mine all up n running :)

One thing tho...my superuser asked to update binaries so I did like normal then a new pop up I never seen before asked if I wanted to try and disable knox?? Like if I didn't then might have problems or pop ups and stuff. I didn't try it just canceled out. What should I do
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ct_tec313:
just ordered mine this morning wont get here until next week thursday,didnt do the next day shipping so will se what happens talked to the samsung rep he told me dont worry mines will ship out next monday so hopefully they didnt screw up like they did before........:fingers-crossed:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
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Disable knox. First thing I always freeze all the knox related apk's with titanium anyway..lol

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Rooted / TWRP 2.8.1.1 trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
I'm back from work but no update. Samsung corporate took the day off for the holidays. Won't know anything until Monday so enjoy your phones and if you have anything you want to add about what you'd like to see out of the developer program in the future, please feel free to share your thoughts in the other community project thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2953503

In the mean time I'll be working on putting together measures to get a proper head count and every dev owner involved in the evolution of our amazing phone to an epic wonder that it truly is.

Please answer the survey in the other thread so we can get a proper head count on DE owners and future demand.

Sincerely,

Virgil
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jam2315:
OK well I've never seen that pop up askin that so I didn't know what to do. Do I say yes to try to disable knox or do it another way? Can u tell me what I need to freeze really then I will update binaries again I guess lol. I'm Def not a noob bt if it's knox related I am :(

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Also can't wait til we get rid of the big red boot animation lol ugh
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] csstamatin:
Did the survey. Yeah Virgil! And figured out the heat in twrp thing. I always use the compress backup option. Tried it without that and temperatures are normal. Anyone want to try a backup with compression on and let me know if urs gets hot. Thx
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bdorr1105:
What do you mean etched. I ordered my developer edition today and I got next day delivery.... My tracking number was sent to me and it will be here Friday
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Time for a million dollar question. The perfectly fine 64GB SanDisk card from my Note 3 that refused to work in my Note...will it now work in my N4DE?

Go back a couple pages. The engrave DEVELOPER DEVICE or so under the battery.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bdorr1105:
Ok I understand now thanks... Do you think it's possible with all the demand or the unknown success Samsung is just unlocking retail devices and selling them as Developer Editions because they did not anticipate high demand?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
this was discussed when we all bought note 3 de. we think the returned ones within the 2 weeks were used as the first batch of dev eds
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
It will once you flash the fix SD mod or use the KitKat Full SD Card Access Xposed module.

Sent from my rooted Verizon Note 4 Developer Edition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Virgil, are you going to be mentioning the etching? I'm not sure if i should call them back and bring it up. But i'm worried if i ever resold it, the etching really proves it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
I used the boot animation I found here http://zidroid.com/how-to-get-galaxy-s5-boot-animation-galaxy-s4-note3/ to get the same images without the horrible Verizon splash page.

Sent from my rooted Verizon Note 4 Developer Edition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bdorr1105:
As in they are probably refurbished?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
Mine wasn't etched so of course I will be mentioning that as well as the other concerns people are commonly having.

In regards to a previous post on this page, yes I'm almost certain they are just flashing normal units into DE units. This opens the possibility of a future program like HTC'S.

I bet you they called the engraving booth guy at the mall to come down and do them. Might explain why there's dead sea salt lotion on my box and a receipt from Hot Topic.

Facetiously yours,

Virgil
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
yup if you notice your box probably has an imei sticker over an old imei sticker
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bdorr1105:
I have not received mine yet but I really hope that is not the case
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
Flashed the debloated, knox-free stock ROM and a few of the extra mods (4 way power, etc)...everything is working great. There was some delay in play store updates and I have gotten some google search FCs but it is settling in nicely. Looking forward to whatever else is coming down the line.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
I'll give that a try, but no, my issue was the card constantly just "unexpectedly removed." My 32 GB Sandisk works fine. This 64 GB doesn't. And as a update, it's failing in the N4DE too. as of right now :(

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My box is clearly a reused box, I can say that at least. You can see the sticker under the top one.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
Bummer. I really thought it would work, because my 64GB from my Note 3 worked fine in my N4DE after the SD card fix, and now I'm using a SanDisk 128GB card that's working great.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
I haven't tried that mod yet.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Oh snap, you are right, i just pulled the new imei sticker off that was stuck over the old one. WOW, this is ****ed up.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] PaulPizz:
Can anyone direct me to DE firmware or copies of all partitions??
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
So what do you think i should do? Should i call and complain? I want to, but don't want to hurt future progress with this phone for anyone.

You serious you got a hot topic receipt with it? Well did they buy anything good from there?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
yup told ya this isnt my first developer edition. not saying they are all like that but i would bet they are all refurbs
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
IF it is a refurb, i would be very pissed. I paid full retail for a used, once broken device. I'm getting someone else junk and paying full retail for it. I'm starting to feel like i got jerked, and not in a good way.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
There is no firmware released or available for the DE. Samsung has never released firmware for their developer edition phones or released OTA updates.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
im serious i would put serious money on it they are all refurb devices
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] vaxick:
I'm considering the Note 4 dev edition over the Nexus 6. What ROM's can be installed on this device?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
There's only one ROM available right now. Go to Android Development section.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
It does seem likely...I definitely have one sticker on top of another on the outer box sleeve...two different IMEIs.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Other people have mentioned that their DE Box says Developer Edition on it. Guess those are originals. We got bunked in sooooo many ways.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tfly212:
My box (not the sleeve) is stamped "DEVELOPER EDITION" and it is etched under the battery. It is definitely a little shady though...and lazy...a new sleeve with the new sticker and I would never have known.

Upside, device seems to be working great so it may be moot.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
I have no etching, nothing on the box or sleeve.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jam2315:
Mine has the etching on the box under the sleeve and under the battery but not on the very outside (sleeve) of the box. Only one sticker too. Surely they wouldn't send out some refurbs ya think? :mad::eek::confused::thumbdown:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
I chompt on the bit all day. 8 pm I hear the wonderful sound of the UPS truck [emoji2]

Fired up with home screen, checked in stock recovery dead android. Factory reset in recovery.

Oden TWRP, and installed supersu. All good [emoji2]
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
Winner winner, sticker dinner.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
So two things,

1. i have nothing that proves that my phone is actually a real developer edition. Nothing on the box like you have, or under the battery like the others. Which i was told was the reason it didn't get shipped on Monday, due to etchings needed to be done that proves it a developer edition. I'm afraid that if anyone ever wanted to purchase it from me in the future, the person may not believe me.

2. I'm starting to believe that this may be a refurbished regular note 4 that i paid full retail for, as nothing on the box states its a developer edition, and there is no etching under the battery. Not to mention i have 2 different IMEI numbers and Models #'s.

I'm gunna flip out on friday if they answer, monday for sure.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
All 3 of my Developer Devices have a new sticker over the original: note-3, S5, and note-4.

They all were in new condition, so I don't think any of mine were refurbs. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Plus the term "refurb" means different things to different people.

I wouldn't want a phone that use to have an issue with the speaker not working. However if soccer mom simply bought a Note 4, and 3 days later determines it is too large and turns it into a DE....I'm ok with that.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Not me....I purchased a brand new phone. That's what was advertised thats I paid for and that's what I want. It's my right. Plus you never know why it became a refurb...could been dropped in the ****ter....or could been an exchange. Still isn't NEW.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
Keep your receipt, it should be plenty of proof if you sell later. I thought mine was not stamped either because the outside sleeve didn't have "Developer Device", but once I slid the outside cover off the box was stamped. I'm sure they would replace if you want, but you would probably have to wait weeks :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Will the de update via kies?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Is kies the desktop app? If so, everytime I plug my phone in I get a little popup logo by my click saying something like that is can't find any related software for this device.

So...I'm saying no.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
I'll wait, as long as i can use this one until i get the right one from them.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pego99:
Yes kies is the pc app if the only difference between the regular note 4 and the developer edition note 4 is the unlock bootloader why does kies reject it to update?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
Hah I was just joking about that since I was playing up the whole mall engraving booth thing, which isn't a bad idea if you really want to brand your device. You can get it engraved with "NSA FIELD KIT" or "SKYNET EDITION" for some extra flair.

I just wonder how the conversation went down at STA.

Agent 1: "WE HAVE MORE DE ORDERS THAN EXPECTED, QUICK TO THE ENGRAVING BOOTH AT THE LOCAL MALL!"

Agent 2: "SIR WE NEED YOU TO ENGRAVE THESE BOXES ASAP!"

The Engraver: *dude shrugs* "Okay that'll be about $350."
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
No Kies is blocked, otherwise you would downgrade to retail. Your updates will come from the dev community :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
Lol as bad as this has been....i dont put it pass samsung.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] soukie:
Congratulation! You made the right choice, the Dev Edition that way to go.

I bought two of the Note 4 because I thought the Dev Edition will no. Longer available, so I bought the retail version, then a day later I checked Samsung website and I see it available so I ordered it within 5 minutes hahaha. The Dev edition goes pretty quick and when it ran out it might not be back in stock again.

I just sold my retail Note 4 version today and waiting for my Dev edition; it will be here on 28th.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jam2315:
Browser's don't support flash?? Ugh lol

Gotta be a fix right
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Since this seems to have turned into a discussion thread as we all root, I just started having major lag. I'm talking 2 second screen lock ups. Maybe one of the xposed modulares I installed caused problems? I removed the most recent one, and restarted. It locked up on the Verizon screen. I yanked the battery and it started normal. Still laggy though. I found a post elsewhere that linked me here: http://xdaforums.com/note-4-tmobile/general/fix-how-to-fix-xposed-framework-lag-t2935423

Installing the mentioned modular didn't help, but turning off s-health seems to have 100% fixed my problems. I'll look into it and play with it more later.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] soukie:
Yeah, is over night but it won't be here until the 28th.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Quick thought on the whole sticker and different imei numbers. What's to say they don't take a normal Verizon note 4 off the shelf that was waiting to be shipped to a store, flash new software, print a new sticker, etch it and then mail it to the developer purchaser. So it is new, just changed from how it was to be sold prior.