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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] LagunaTechie:
I would expect that Samsung would at least have got some orders fulfilled at this point. I know a few people in this thread ordered in late October and still have not received their devices. They sure are going to have to get a load of orders out in the next few weeks if they expect to stick behind that statement. I don't think it is going to happen.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GreenGoblin227:
The biggest thing was next day shipping. All those orders took priority over regular ups standard shipping.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] manbat:
I did regular shipping. I do live in Fort Worth thought and it was only coming from Dallas. Got mine pretty quickly.

Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Rooted / TWRP 2.8.1.1 trltevzw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
I have to wonder if there is a CONEX box full of Note 4 DEs sitting on a container ship in Long Beach. As I understand it, the Longshoremen who load/unload the ships can't because the trucks who haul this stuff off to all points aren't moving due to a strike by the drivers. So there are close to a dozen container ships docked, loaded, and idle.

Is it possible that neither Samsung nor Verizon are behind this? Is it possible that a bunch of angry truckers in California are?

Hmmmmm....

BTW I pre-ordered a Note 4 DE in September. Of course, that pre-order is probably null & void since Sammy filled it... with a Note 3 DE. So now I'm up to the October pre-order. Multiple pre-orders. Four weeks? Been and gone, folks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Mibuix0r:
I have little hope, maybe they will have a couple by the time the Edge comes out :p
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] GirLuvsDroid:
Same here. I ordered with regular, free shipping - ordered the DE on October 27, got it on October 31. I live in Delaware.

Sent from my rooted Verizon Note 4 Developer Edition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
I ordered very early on the morning of 10/27 (like 4:30AM EDT), I did pay for overnight, but mine took 2 days, not one. I got mine on 10/29, I live in Maryland (hey neighbor!)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
Alright guys listen up, I spoke with someone very important at corporate, and she told me that we're going to be seeing some new units come in next week, my guess is by humpday. You see what happened was that they didn't anticipate so much demand so they didn't really have many devices. She said to expect more and that she's going to look into a little issue about software and getting all this Samsung support so we don't brick our phones. She confirmed warranty is only 30 days and that the site is wrong. She said she'll call me back on Monday or Tuesday or something like that and I completely insisted that they set up some sort of representative to be our liaison for the developer community. Fan****ingtastic love this s*** love this s*** just wait a few more days Boys it's going to be a great Christmas I mean Thanksgiving I mean whatever. This post was brought to you by my speech to text program on my defective Note 4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] skillzo1:
She said to expect more and that she's going to look into a little issue about software and getting all this Samsung support so we don't brick our phones. [/QUOTE]

What do u mean by this
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpcalhoun:
I truly hope she is correct about more inventory available next week. I know it's been a real ordeal for the guys waiting for a Note 4 DE. However, the comment about software support for the DE is most significant. Samsung has never supported their DE devices in the past. So if you hard brick one you're out of luck. If Samsung would provide DE only firmware that could be applied using ODIN or a flashable .zip for their latest release (KitKat or soon to be Lollipop). That would be a God send.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
Oh JP trust me man I know how badly we need the official DE firmware so we can have a safety net to continue experimenting. That's why I insisted she look into getting us software and a liaison. We have to have these things because, as I told her, it is us as first movers who bring their device to a higher demand.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
:good:

I got my credit card waiting.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urmcgwy:
Mine also took 2 days, so I called customer service and they refunded the cost of the shipping so you might want to give them a call if you haven't tried yet!

Sent from my unlocked and rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 4 DE!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
Samsung called me back again to let me know they do have the units already in the warehouse and they are being processed and entered into inventory to go out by Monday. It's almost here!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
You are hereby our new official Samsung rep. Make us proud, don't kill our hopes and dreams. And for the love of God, if you can get them to get us some sort of liaison that just puts up a developer edition-safe OTA zip or ODIN file, we'll make you a saint. Or something.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bjtcars:
Would have been great if she let it be know about how many would be available. (some new units) doesn't sound like a lot but I hope there is enough for those of us who are waiting.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jam2315:
Awesome to hear. That Web page will be flooded by us on Monday trying to get a n order in. Next day shipping guys lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] RedCrow101:
Subscribed to this thread and back ordered mine yesterday. Here's hoping they have enough tomorrow.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jam2315:
So how early is everyone planning on bombarding and refreshing the website every minute lol :D:D:D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
5:30am! Lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Poloasis:
That is if Samsung is really doing this!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jam2315:
Lol i kno...fingers crossed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
I will be up until 3:01am tonight EST in case these things officially launch 12 PST.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] triton302:
I think everyone is about to get trolled tomorrow.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jam2315:
I really hate 2 say it bt I have a feeling it's not gonna happen either bt I will be checking all day like everyone else lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] csstamatin:
I have a timer set for every 55 minutes from now till 9 when I'm gonna call.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Poloasis:
Not 12a or 1am or 3am or 5am this stupid DE came on stock on stupid Samsung website. Nexus 6 is looking better everyday Samsung. Come on!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jam2315:
I'm sure they will receive some phone calls today if it never comes back in stock today bt that won't do any good lol. I'm not gonna call em tho...I'm so tired of the run around and unsure answers so I'll just keep refreshing and checking comments in here :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
true story they arent in stock
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] RedCrow101:
It says in the description on the website that the device has not been approved by the FCC and can not be sold until it does. Anyone know if it has been through that process yet?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] csstamatin:
The only hope we have left of seeing them today is waiting on the west coast. Sammy is Korean and the west coast is where they start. So maybe it'll come online at 12 our time. Who knows but I'm hoping.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] triton302:
If that's the case, why do some already have the phone? That's weird.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] TBacker:
As stated earlier in this thread (hint) - it's an error on their web site. The whole family of N4's was authorized in September.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
I just talked to a CSR Babe an hour ago and she confirmed that the warehouse DOES, in fact, have these things... but the computer hasn't been updated yet to release them. She ASSURED me that she would call me as soon as the Note 4 DE was available for order (yeah right). Meanwhile, I'l just keep refreshing the website and calling every two hours.

:)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] csstamatin:
I'm I the list of people to call once they get in. They messed up my order so I was guaranteed one as well. I'll be on the site every few minutes until 12 then I'm calling and complaining.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
They're available on the site now!

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910VMKEVZW
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
gogogogogogogogogo!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jam2315:
Ordered...nxt day :D:D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
Order now
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Poloasis:
Ordered next day!

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What a danm roller coster Samsung...Geez
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
Sweet, got my order in. Hopefully they will be able to fufill all requests.

Edit: Oh god, first order I forgot to change to next day and had to cancel and reorder because Samsung has no way of changing existing orders. My order number went up by 30. I hope they have enough devices and this doesn't get placed on B/O :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hacksaw999:
Woohoo! Ordered mine!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] LagunaTechie:
Ordered. Next day:D:D:D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
GO GO GO!

It's available, I just ordered it online! Next Day Shipping!

:D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SpltScreen:
OOS already?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
Not yet
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] LagunaTechie:
In one sense I think Samsung's going to sell out of DE devices at this rate, but then I cannot imagine more than a few hundred want DE devices. They should overstock them. Who knows...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SpltScreen:
I've been clicking add to cart. Keeps going straight to backorder.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
I wonder if we'll ever have ROMs developed for the DE if the retail doesn't get its bootloader unlocked or safestrapped. On a side note, how will DE devices be updated if they don't get OTA? Does Samsung make the update files available and they have to be flashed manually? I'm mainly thinking about Lollipop coming in the next month or two.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] LagunaTechie:
I'm hoping Cyanogenmod 12 will come out soon, and I'll stick to that. They update nightly. I love it!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
I've been wondering the same :(

I would love to see Alliance on the Note 4 DE.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
Very unlikely to see any AOSP roms. Maybe if the retail version gets its bootloader unlocked, but regardless anything AOSP based will lose a ton of functionality like the Stylus.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] LagunaTechie:
I bet you're right. At least with Xposed one could get the google now launcher and kill the touchwiz launcher in the background. I just cannot believe how demanding touchwiz is on the phone's hardware. That is probably the number one reason I returned the retail version.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SpltScreen:
Sorry folks, for the last 10 minutes, I've gotten zilch trying to order. Even when others said they were still ordering. I am visiting the proper order page, correct?

(Sorry, new user cannot post link)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
nope, still lets me add one. http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910VMKEVZW?

Try a different browser or machine, or clear your caches/cookies
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
I just bought a friends dev edition and then link goes live haha oh well i will have one in 2 days!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
With Greenify, ES Task Manager, xposed tweaks, and Nova as my launcher, I have zero lag and excellent battery life. Also, cut down the animation times in Developer Options. ymmv.

I've tried many AOSP/AOKP ROMs over the last few years, and IMO nothing compares with TW ROMs on the Note series. You can get some of the SPen functionality with apps and hacks, but using the Sammy apps iz just moar betterz.

I know there's lots of TW haters but I actually really like it, and on this hardware, there is plenty of overhead.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
Link is live ladies and gentlemen. Go ahead and buy your units, they have a couple hundred of them in stock this round. I got the call from Samsung and placed my overnight order. Enjoy it, hopefully I can get the ODIN Dev Edition firmware for the community this week. I'll report later on today or tomorrow as I get updated by Samsung but so far let us rejoice with the good news of the Note Testament.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
How will DE owners get updates since they dont get OTA? I'm thinking specifically of the incoming Lollipop update. Will we have to wait a long time until the odin firmware becomes available or is it possible to get the DE firmware from the retail?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] xxx42069:
Just ordered mine with no problems. Thanks everybody for the heads up on this.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nolanw:
I would NEVER install a custom rom on the note 4 that is not related to touchwiz, you would lose 90% of the pen functionality. Whats the point? Just go with the Nexus 6. The Dev Edition is nice and all, but without update support, it's not worth it in my opinion. You have to sit around AFTER the update has been released through Verizon (and we all know how long that takes) and just hope that someone will tweak it for the Dev Edition. Yes you can root, and install custom recovery, but that only gets you so far, and there is too much to lose on this phone with AOSP roms.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
See the many discussions about root on Lollipop. There's a good chance upgrading the DE to Lollipop may unroot you and you will not be able to gain root again.

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/general/talk-root-t2908919/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SpltScreen:
Thanks for the sanity check! Resorted to pushing an order through on my mobile browser. Looks like they are still available. Can't explain why my desktop wouldn't cooperate. All caches were cleared, multiple times.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
Your info is out of date., chainfire has already rooted 5.0 w/o modifying the ramdisk.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] shpotik:
I'm planning on ordering it overnight shipping, I won't be home until 3:45pm what time does UPS usually deliver? Does anyone know?someone fill me in with Some info please! Will this require a signature?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ebrinkis:
I am very happy for all of you. I didn't want to say anything before and bum you all out, but I missed the Note 3 DE last year, put in a backorder, but there were never any put back in stock, so I never was able to fill the backorder. This time around I got one of the first Note 4 DE's. With all the new DE's released, not only does it mean we have a larger population for ROM development interest, but with the probabilities of actual DE support and firmware from Samsung, I can't imagine they would NOT post a DE version of Lollipop. Also, if they have some left over, then that means we have a chance to exchange defective units like all the other phones. You guys should be very proud of yourselves for sticking with it and getting Samsung to come through!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fz798:
Some said yes, some said no. Mine did not.

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I thought I'd also read there were some caveats to that and that it may not work if/when we see Lollipoop on the DE?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jam2315:
I was told they only had 100 this time around. The shipping deal happened to me also so had to cancel the 1st order and reorder and now I can't get it. Says card decline. Called them and now I'm getting the run around. One lady said card isn't charged until it ships so the $ was never taken from acc....other lady says it takes 3 business days to get funds released after refund and I'd have to see if I had enough $ n acc to order again. There's plenty of $ n the acc I'm using bt they aren't accepting my card and it's the only acc. I have. I really hope I don't miss out this time around bc of BS :mad:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Ouch that was a painful click, but she'll be here tomorrow. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
I don't know what those caveats could be since its a simple installation on all Nexus Lollipop devices already. Anything else related to Lollipop and DE root is pure conjecture.

Why would Samsung make a device specifically for developers than lock it down in future updates? Makes no sense, even for Samsung.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bjmjpl:
This was absolutely my problem thank you!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
History shows that there won't be OTA updates but maybe we can get them to change that around this time. However the way it will work is that we will need the Dev Edition ODIN firmware not the retail one and extract the bootloader partition and overwrite other ROM's sections with this one so those ROMs can install without messing our bootloader up. At least this is the simple explanation I can identify.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] JKforUA:
Thank you for all of the work you put in to get all of this pushed for us (I'd claim that ;) )!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Poloasis:
Root on 5.0 with a lock bootloader is mostly unlikely. Having the unlock BL greatly helps. 5.0 has already been rooted. No need to pull hair out on this. For the Note 4 DE I am sure 5.0 will make it to it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
No problem mate, I was so infuriated/motivated by how badly they messed it up for all of us. Let's hope this good step leads to getting more support in the future.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
Oh cool, so if ROMs ever get going for the Note 4, we can patch them to work with DE. Thanks for the info. Hope you have luck getting the ODIN firmware!

Assuming we don't get OTA updates, we will then rely on Samsung releasing updated ODIN firmwares, is that correct? Or do they have another means of doing non-OTA updates?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] JKforUA:
I never received any email or notification like promised from the Samsung site when they got more of these in stock. If anybody thinks because they backordered this that they are good, I would definitely ignore that and go ahead and get it!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
me either i bought a buddies dev ed note 4 and then i checked sammy site and it was available haha but oh well i will have one soon enough!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] igknight:
Didnt get an update from the thread and thought I would check, FINALLY GOT IT!

Lets see if it actually shipps now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] sprintuser1977:
Not getting a DE but I have been following this thread.

Congratulations and I am very happy after all the problems you all had Some are available. I know the wait was terrible!

Anyway, happy for you guys,

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
I had not one but TWO csrs who promised to call my cell phone number as soon as they were available. Nothing. Lucky me I refreshed the Web page at just the right time!

Since I got next day shipping, I went to Amazon and ordered a nano-sim cutter and adapters, overnight shipping. That way I can cut my Note 3 micro-sim down to fit the Note 4, and have adapters on hand if I need to use the Note 3 again for some reason.

All I need now is a good night's sleep and I'll be a rootin' Chief tomorrow or Wednesday!

:D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
Note 4 sim is the same as a Note 3.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Poloasis:
Correct!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] VirgilWoods:
If I manage to get them to give us the base ODIN file I'll call it an achievement as I doubt they will ever give us any updates at all after that. I think the patch that can be created from the original firmware would be universal in the sense that any future retail update could be modified for the DE quickly.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] The-Chief:
My mistake then. Ah well, can't have too many gadgets lying around :p

LOL
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pentafive:
Just ordered mine!

Have a Nexus 6 on ATT that I unlocked to VzW. Was going to use it as my daily driver. The deal breaker is no simultaneous voice/data using the Nexus 6 on VzW. Booo.

Note 4 DE here I come!

-Pentafive
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
Iirc the no simul voice/data on the N6/Droid Turbo/etc is because they will get upgraded to VoLTE by the end of the year. Short term problem for long term gain.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] zman2107:
Did anyone get an email saying they were in stock
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] icon123:
Not really. That only works if your call is on volte which means both parties have to be on volte. So you have to have compatible phones (both ways) and in a compatible area. Otherwise you are talking cdma and can't do simultaneous voice and data. I don't see volte going mainstream next year.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Don_Pachuco:
Unicorn Phone

So I called both Verizon and Samsung today, and neither of the people that I talked to were very well informed. The Verizon rep never heard of the model, and the Samsung rep said that it had to be gotten from the carrier. I asked him why it shows on the site then. He told me that it's possible, but normally they have to be gotten from the carrier. I then called a Verizon store and asked if one could be ordered, as I am due to upgrade. He asked for the full model number, looked, said it's available, but they can't get it. So if anyone was wondering, the $699.99 off of Samsung.com is the only way to get it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] keithce:
Nope, but so glad I just randomly decided to check the site! I then came back to this thread to read you guys already knew.... Its 12:45 MST and I ordered one Next Day PM Delivery! *sigh of relief* I was about to stomach up and be like I can't stand my current phone and go retail!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mattdb:
Not me. I just randomly checked.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pentafive:
The email notifications almost never beat a good old page refresh lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
yes only way to get is via sammy for $699
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobbarker2:
Has anyone who ordered today gotten updated info on their order? Samsung's store front is really bad, it doesn't seem like you'll get any info until a tracking number is generated.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] RedCrow101:
So now I'm confused and unsure. This model will never see an official Samsung update? Do people just create Roms for it? It'd be a shame to be stuck on KitKat forever.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
In the past, Samsung has not issued OTAs for the developer editions. When an OTA comes out for the retail device, developers will grab that ota and modify it so that we can flash it without locking out bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] HotLZ:
I've received nothing from Sammy on my order, but I did get a call from my credit card bank asking about the transactions from Samsung and if they were legit. Samsung claims not to charge the card until the unit is shipped, so hopefully I will have my unit tomorrow.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kevins89notch:
I just checked my card online. I have 4 separate pending $1 charges from Samsung, and then then another charge for the real amount $765. No clue what those 4 separate $1 charges are.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Mibuix0r:
Yay finally!!!! those $1 charges are some verification thing for fraud protection there was a popup box when you checked out that told you about it but I was too excited to read it.