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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Boss428man:
There seem to be issues with Android L and Root as there are also issues with Not being able to be unlocked with a normal Verizon Note 4. The developer edition has to be bought at $662 but it removes the need for all these complex work arounds. It may cost a bit more then a two year discount but you can get wot work right away!

If it was me I'd return the regular one and buy the Dev. but that's me and root / unlocked is important to me. I also have to buy the phone full retail so the Dev is cheaper as well. Looking at the regular Note it just looks like hurtle after hurtle you have to get through to have the same thing.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] windstrings:
Contract cost more! Edge or buying outright means your not under contract so you get a monthly rebate 15 or 25 if a 10gb plan or higher and no activation fee.... Do the math ?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] umx:
I am so on the fence right now.. Do i get a note 4 from Verizon and maybe never get root. The dev phone def looks promising.. or do I go to mobile and get a note 4 already rooted.. I currently have a note 3 on ver. And refuse to use one with out root or a rom bc of blog down crapware

And the dev phone gives you full control right? so root + roms and what ever else is out there?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
i might be able to live with the note 4 with only root. phone is stupid nice
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] umx:
but romed is like 10x better lol.. but i could prob deal with root only as well.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] windstrings:
Well the Dev offer on samsungs page is down
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] umx:
I dont think its on verizons site yet, bc no release date yet

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_4_developer_edition_is_headed_to_verizon-news-10015.php

http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-4-developer-edition-headed-verizon
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] windstrings:
Regardless of what site "talks" about it based on earlier today, if you order it's only from Samsung and that site is now down

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910VMKEVZW
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Boss428man:
The phone is "stupid' nice.. But Chainfire the gentleman who is a developer that works on a fair share of rooting just said Root isn't going to be possible with out an unlocked boot loader with android L. Now this isn't Disney and magic can happen but Android is trying to move into a safer more business friendly world. So assuming there is a cheat for the current KitKat.. If this happens you will have to stay on it. Hoping Verizon will release a unlocked boot loader isnt going to happen. So if your OK with the current situation that's fine. I think everyone stressing here is the phone is great and a developer edition is developer friendly and will help you get the most out of it. I thankfully am glad this Dev edition is happening. I was worried the door had finally closed. Just being objective and honest. Btw
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidstyle:
Agreed with above! The days of rooting and unlocking Sammy devices are over. The retail device will be stuck stock, the Dev Edition will be rootable only with the version of Android that it is sold with. It will never get a update and there will be no devs like hash code to patch a kernel up for the Dev units to run new android versions on a older bootloader. Unless of course Cayanogen picks up support for it then AOSP will be possible. The problem with AOSP is it always has bugs or else I would be all over it. Also Sammy only keeps 15-20 Dev units in stock at a time, so the DE edition community will be rather tiny as it was on the N3.

That being said I will probably stick with my Dev N3 for now unless we get a miracle.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] windstrings:
It's good to emotionally prepare to assess if you can live with worse case scenario.

But I still have faith "somebody" will find a way, they always do.

The bigger the challenge the more incentive to make a name to prove your skills and do what no one else could.

I'm buying outright so if it's becoming apparent that's hopeless I can still sell and get the Dev or the next great thing that's out.... "waterproof note 4"?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
Yes phone is stupid nice haha i love it! and yeah i am seriously concerned about Lollipop. am i still thinking about dev though honestly. still want roms and kernels haha i need to sell my g3 asap!

exactly. if samsung would update it, it would be a different story but less then 50 note 3 developer editions in existence its tough. agreed with aosp too id love to run aosp but bugs and lose features etc etc
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachchen1996:
So you're not getting the Note 4 DevEd anymore?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
i am unsure right now. going to hopefully list g3 tonight. between work right now, logistics of selling one of my cars out of state, phones and regular life.i have no time right now so we will see. if g3 sells and deal goes through on my mustang i will get for sure just too many unknowns right now
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachchen1996:
I feel you, I'm so conflicted right now as well.

I have the Note 4 in my possesion still unopened brand new in box, on the one hand I am ready to put it up for sale so I can snatch the DevEd whenever it releases. But on the other hand I'm thinking I should just keep it due to the fear that our little group of DevEd owners will not be enough to garner the dev support it needs for kitkat / lollipop roms etc. :/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
yeah i want regular note 4 for daily use and note 4 dev for toying with. Just have to see what happens with car and everything and my money situation then! But man open it up and try it!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachchen1996:
I'm really tempted to open it up and try it!

But If I do open it up now and later down the line decide to sell it so I can get the DevEd, I wont be able to sell it for as much. Sigh...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
yeah i havent opened anything in box but phone. no battery, no tips or charger stuff etc so mine will be basically brand new still
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidstyle:
It is not a matter of preparing for worse case scenario, it is reality. The only reason the N2, GS4, GS5, N3 had any dev support when 4.4 dropped was because Hashcode brought Safestrap recovery for those retail devices. He also patched a kernel up for us DE N3 owners that allowed us to run 4.4 roms on a 4.3 bootloader. If it was not for him development would of died after 4.3 for every latest Sammy device. Now that he has retired we are going to need a miracle for the future VZW Sammy devices. I like you hope something comes along, but the window of opportunity is closing. I think our most capable devs are giving up with Verizon because it takes too much time out of their daily lives to keep with support. I have owned Samsung devices going back to the unlocked GS1 and the dev community has slowly declined since then.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] windstrings:
I just need root, towelroot was great! 20 seconds and your in!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wtherrell:
GS4, there was also the loki'd bootloader bypass exploit that helped as well. Then Verizon issued an OTA that killed it. I think there won't be much development efforts for the Dev Edition. Maybe a T-Mobile port or so. So on Verizon, I am leaning strongly towards the Nexus 6.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] equake:
None of the Dev Eds were that popular since they never received OTA updates which is a major Faux Pas.

WIth the new Nexus available on all Carriers this should put the final kabosh on this unit.

On that note a couple of observations, this years flagships are a big yawn with none containing 64bit SoCs excepting the Note 4 Exynos edition.

Next years GS6/Note 5 should be much more exciting with better H/W and support of Android 5.0 64bitness and who knows maybe Intel SoCs will start to seep into the fray.

my 2 cents
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachchen1996:
Yeah at this point I think I'm going to sell my Note 4 and get the Nexus 6 as well.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] urmcgwy:
decided to pass

I just got a notice from Samsung that the DE is available now, but I figured that with Helium and FoxFi both working, I can live without root until someone (hopefully) figures it out and claims the bounty. This is the first phone where the stock ROM actually has a lot of things that I ended up using and liking enough that I don't want to lose the stock experience. From what I read, it would mostly be AOSP ROMs on the phone vs TouchWiz.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] igknight:
Ya, I got my notice that its available too.

I want it, I love the SPen, and the look/feel of it. Just picked up a 64G SD card for it, but, I don't think we will have dev support. Thinking Nexus 6 may be the way to go, see how VZW handles new phones, how dev support is for them in the future, and possibly look at finally leaving Verizon.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allthemalarkey19:
Has anyone pulled the trigger on buying the Dev Ed yet? I'm really close to buying one but was wondering if anyone else had bought one yet and had an estimated delivery date.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] irmoballen:
Couldn't find the product page, it's disappeared for me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allthemalarkey19:
Weird. It was there for me this morning with the fixed price and I could go through the checkout process, but now it's not in my cart anymore.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hilfey:
I wanted to order one and after the page disappeared I sent them an email asking how to order. They say you can only get it from Verizon directly. Not happy, as I doubt I'll ever see one if this is true.

This is the response.

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Thank you for contacting Samsung Telecommunications America.

After reading your e-mail, I understand that you would like to purchase Samsung Galaxy Note 4 developer edition.

I appreciate your interest in Samsung products and provide you with the necessary information.

I would like to inform you that Samsung manufactures devices according to carrier specifications and sell it through respective carriers. Carriers lock the devices to respective carrier network and sell the devices.

Samsung Galaxy developer edition devices are available only through the carrier Verizon and I request you to contact Verizon support or visit your near by Verizon store to check the availability of Note 4 developer edition and place an order.

You can contact Verizon support at 1-888-466-4646. You can reach them online at Link : http://www.verizonwireless.com

If you are looking for more details on the functionality of a product or would like to find answers to some of the questions, visit us at Link: http://originus.samsung.com/us/smartphone-simulators-and-tutorials/#

For an interactive review of some of our Samsung products please access the web link below. Link :http://originus.samsung.com/us/smartphone-simulators-and-tutorials/#

Feel free to contact us if you have any questions regarding your Samsung Mobile Phone, you can also reach out to our chat support team by accessing the following link. Live Chat is available 24 hours a day and 7 days a week.

Link: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/contact

Thank you for your continued interest in Samsung products.

Sincerely,

Valarie

Technical Support

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidstyle:
what a bunch of BS...all past DE devices had to be purchased through Samsung directly.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manbat:
UPDATE:Back Order Ready Email? Mine is on the way !!

I received my backorder available email also......No link? Old Link does not work? I have also fired off a few emails questioning WHY? On line chat was no help. Guess I'll call when order support is available by phone on Monday....:(:mad:

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I pulled the Trigger!!! Mine is on the way !!!! :) I found the link on the site. It seems to be down now unless you receive a "back order available email". When you click the Cart it is Under "Samsung Mobile Accessories Cart. Total price for Me ended up being $717.19 with Tax. I have received the confirmation of order. I will update when it gets here!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fz798:
I got the backorder available email, but my cart is empty, when I click "View Samsung Mobile Accessories Cart" under cart, there's nothing there. Can you post or PM a product link?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctor-cool:
Same Here.

But if I go to "My Products" then click on "My Orders" It is listed under "Accessory Orders"

Order Date	Order Number	Total Price	Status

01/18/2013	xxxxxxxxxx	$102.81	completed

10/22/2014	xxxxxxxxxx	$662.53	back order

They are obviously having some technical difficulty.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manbat:
I explain what I did here...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=56284121

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctor-cool:
I got it now.. They appear to be having some problems with their web site. They only billed me one dollar.:rolleyes:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidrev71:
That's how samsung verifies the card. I've had it at where they charged me with two $1 charges.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manbat:
Yep.....I was charged $1.00 twice....lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctor-cool:
Samsung had better go ahead and charge me for the device because the Card I used will expire on Nov.1,2014:confused:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Boss428man:
Ok, I'm not having any luck. I have the original back order email and the Back order ready email. If I click on the link it just goes to the Samsung Page. If I check my cart there is nothing in it but a pull down that checks accessories. This brings me to a cart page that looks like the original cart I ordered the back order from but there is nothing in this.

Am I missing something?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctor-cool:
Try this http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56290932&postcount=2
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allthemalarkey19:
Does the price still show up as $662.53 for you all? That's what it's showing me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidrev71:
I'm not able to order. I was just sharing what happened with past purchases. Your price is correct from what others have said.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manbat:
That's what I paid...plus tax =$717.19
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allthemalarkey19:
Awesome. I chose overnight shipping so hopefully I'll get it soon! Do I just transfer the SIM card from my current Note 4 to the dev ed when that comes?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
I still can't get it to show my note 4 I keep getting page not found lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] urmcgwy:
I just ordered one off of the website. I think I cleared the backorder from my cart by accident and couldn't find it again online. I ended up going to the cached website after searching on google for SM-N910VMKEVZW and went from there. Got an email confirmation, credit card charge, and everything.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fz798:
You sir, are a genius! That worked for me as well, and I just got my order confirmation. If I could hit "Thanks" a hundred times, I would.

THANKS!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davcar94:
We have a winner!

Thank you so much! Finally a working solution for us who didn't get the phone placed in our cart from the beginning! :good::good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GirLuvsDroid:
That definitely worked, even without clearing my cart of the back order (which I couldn't figure out how to do). Thanks a lot for posting your solution!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tom1226:
You're awesome, that worked for me as well! Thanks for posting your solution!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jam2315:
I also confirm this is working now whether or not they actually follow thru with the orders and delivery who knows bt card was charged like a verification fee is all so we'll see...for the ones who chose overnight shipping we will be seeing pretty soon if it works tho :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xmadxpenguinx:
Worked for me as well! Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Boss428man:
Just talked to Corp. They are saying that the Note 4 Developer Edition is going to populate on the site later today 10/27. The reason the page went down was not a supply limit it was an web team issue.

Just a heads up on what I heard.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
they said the same thing last year lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Boss428man:
I just read your trick. I think that might work. You should update the first post with it if its working.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] usmaak:
I've never had a developer edition of any phone before, yet I'm tempted by this one. I've been rooting my phones for 5 years now, and I don't want to lose that ability. I read somewhere that dev edition phones do not get OTA updates. Where do the updates come from? I know that you'd flash them like every other ROM, but what if there isn't enough support for this phone because it will likely never be rootable?

Sorry if that's a dumb question. It's only Monday, and I get a little better with each day... ;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fz798:
There are no dumb questions.

DE phones do not get carrier or manufacturer updates OTA. Any firmware, modem, or ROM updates will up to you to find and flash, at your own risk of course.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EMSpilot:
Verizon Note 4 Dev on order

I have a Verizon S5 Dev Phone and can update to any firmware I decide. Putting together a Rom is easier than themeing LOL.

With an unlocked bootloader the sky is the limit.

My Verizon Note 4 Dev Phone is on order.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpcalhoun:
Mine is ON Order

I just ordered my Note 4 Developer Edition. Should be here tomorrow. Coming from a S5 Developer Edition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Boss428man:
Just finished ordering mine!

Once again for those reading

http://www.cachedpages.com/

then type into the cache look up: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910VMKEVZW

Login to your Samsung Account: and follow through with your order.

I look forward to development on the Verizon Note 4 Developer Edition. Let us know when you
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fz798:
At least as far as 4.4 goes, that's pretty much spot on. However, Lollipop promises to toss quite the Left-Handed Monkeywrench into our works. I'm stoked the preorder page (http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...sung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910VMKEVZW) specifically calls out Android 4.4

If we were to get the DEs all Lollied up on us, unlocked bootloader or not, we might have a heck of a time getting r00t. I'm naive/hopeful/confident that somewhere/someone/somewhen will come up with a way to root on 5+ but my money is that isn't likely to happen soon.

---------- Post added at 06:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:44 PM ----------

Ladies and Gents... wooo-freakin-hoooooo! Just got my shipped notification! Yea baby.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xmadxpenguinx:
I just got my shipping notification!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allthemalarkey19:
I also got my shipped notification! I chose overnight shipping so I'll have it tomorrow!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctor-cool:
I was only charged one dollar on October 26 and ...

This is still sitting in my shopping cart at checkout ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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Item added on

Oct 22, 2014	ET-N910VMKEVZW	GN4 DEVELOPER DEVICE, SM-N910VMKEVZW	$662.53	$662.53

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I was the second guy to order and I have not received a shipping notice. What's Up?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fz798:
If it's still in your cart, it sounds like you've never completed the order. Go back in and see if you can complete the transaction
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jam2315:
Definitely awaiting feedback and thoughts from the few that get tomorrow or Wednesday.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manbat:
I haven't received a shipping notice yet either....but I did not opt for express shipping....lol. I just did free shipping. I did get a email with a link to to register the Note 4 ....when I clicked the link the Note 4 is populated in with the list along with my Note 2, S3, tablets and my Smarts TVs.....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] urmcgwy:
ETA tomorrow!

Hey guys, good to hear the trick worked! Pretty excited to see what's up with the phone when it gets in tomorrow. Now I just need to return my stock phone... DE is cheaper even with the restocking fee!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] texasez:
Just ordered starting from scratch. I now have a order number.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctor-cool:
Got it done. My order could have been held up by an address discrepancy. Should be here by tomorrow PM,
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bsems1000:
So theres really no reason NOT to get a Dev edition right? THe phone is exactly the same, and the service will be too. The only difference is that it costs less (outright) than the Contract edition.. guess I'll have to sell mine :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wyatt57350:
Has anyone seen if UPS actually recieved the phone? I ordered overnight shipping and even recieved a tracking number. However, I've yet to see any update on UPS site other than a label was made.

Update: This morning I got an email from UPS saying that they were not able to meet the delivery estimate they gave me (today the 28th) and that they did not have an estimate when it would be delivered.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fz798:
Whoa. Mine still shows only the label, but, my delivery estimate still says by close of business today.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stile:
I got the delay email from UPS as well with no estimated new delivery time and only a label processed. Wonder if they will refund our 1 day shipping charges.....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Poloasis:
Note 4 Dev Ed still shows up as $663 but when added to cart it's $699 FYI
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Boss428man:
Now its the same price as the regular.. but still unlocked!

I just got my tracking, I had to call because it didn't show up on my account but all is good its on its way!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jam2315:
All sounds kinda fishy huh? Maybe the isn't actually ready yet for us to get and they jumped the gun...lol or we did by the loop hole of actually ordering it hahaha. We'll see i guess