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[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] Patch7:
Samsung came out and said there was an issue with the battery last week. They have already issued an update. Tmobile started getting it today. We should be getting it in the ne,t fews days. Search google for comparisons of this version and the update. Battery seems fixed after the update.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] eNkrypt:
I actually think the lefthand picture looks better.

Brighter doesn't mean better.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] mybikeisblack:
Hard to compare something you've used for a year to something you just got. Give it some time.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] JAG50:
Good to hear they've got a fix for the battery. Actually, I flashed 4.4.4 on my note 3 and it was eating up my battery as well. Hope they release a fix for those that upgraded their note 3s to 4.4.4.

But seriously, the camera was my biggest disappointment.

And the photos don't lie.

I guess that if there is any good news is that the note 4 will be the first one to get lollipop and that should take care of many issues. Feb my bet.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] Inline:
I'm gonna have to agree ENkrypt.. The picture on the left looks much clearer and realistic while the one on the right looks way off like a insta gram filter was on top of it (excuse my lack of the appropriate vocabulary in describing camera quality).

And I ditto the fact that you need to give the new battery some full to dead cycles before you can make an accurate statement on the battery life. Also of course on your Note 3 with MOAR has plenty of the bloat and pointless background processes removed which play a huge factor.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] BubZX:
I'm in phone envy. I could kick myself in the ass right now for getting the s5 when it came out and not waiting for the note4
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] Itchiee:
Turn off Auto adjust screen tone in display settings!
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] ubigred:
Told my sister to wait and she is glad she listened.

Why did you upgrade to the S5?

Sent from my SGNote 3
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] BubZX:
Was sitting on an upgrade. And had an s3
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] jadoe05:
It seems like you don't want to like the phone. Lol. First, you are comparing performance between a phone that has stock firmware on it to a phone that is rooted and has an optimized custom rom. That's not a comparison. As far as the pictures, I'm agreeing with everyone else the one on the left looks better. The one on the right looks like you either have a filter on it or flash. And it still doesn't look as good as the other. The Note 3 is a great phone, but the 4 is just better. And the cameras are definitely night and day. But to each his own. YView attachment 2975190ou won't know what you are missing once the devs start to give this thing some love.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] asim.sidz:
Note 4 is not that huge as an upgrade. Should stick to note 3 till note 5 comes or you got alot of money.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] meatgel:
Nope. I don't agree that it isn't a big enough upgrade. The camera is better. The screen is better. The pen is better. The multi window is easier. I love the fingerprint scanner -- which is the thing I thought I'd have no use for! It feels better in my hand. I know I'll find more as I use the phone, but so far I think it was a great upgrade from the Note 3.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] Abdu Legend:
Samsung Rolled out an OTA update to fix battery problem on the launch day.

and for camera try using other camera apps and then please inform me about cam result. Congrats for a New Note 4. :) :thumbup:
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] JohnnyEpic:
Hmmmm.... I've seen a post like this before.

On the Note 2 vs Note 3 thread...
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] Lethal_NFS:
I went from my Note 3 to the Note 4 and so far I am happy with my new phone. The screen is absolutely gorgeous!

I was eligible for an upgrade so I didn't have to pay a dime for my Note 4. I do not think the differences are enough to run out and sell your Note 3 either.

One thing I do not like about the Note 4 is the speaker is now on the back of the phone. I absolutely hate that!! The phone is very fast and my battery life is outstanding. I also love how I can charge my phone in like 30 mins.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] pongoface:
I have had the 2, the 3 , and now the 4. I still have my 3 and the wifey has the 2. Here's my take on the 3 vs 4. The new screen is ridiculous. I bought the 4 just for the screen actually. The brightness outdoors, on auto brightness the 4 is slightly brighter. Some don't like the speaker on the back but I do. When I don't have my headphones, the sound reverberates better when on the kickstand than the 3, shooting the sound to the right. I always found myself cupping my hand near the speaker to hear the sound. The speaker may not sound as good as the 3 but it is way louder than the 3. I remember everyone saying that the 3 wasn't that great of an upgrade over the 2. Personally it was well worth it.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] jadoe05:
Some of the things you posted are opinions, i won't comment on them. But other things either don't make sense according to facts or you are comparing a stock samsung rom to a custom rom. There is no comparison there. I kinda wonder if you are trolling.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] drewiskee:
Ha! I totally agree bro. I was going to upgrade until i played with it in comparison to my note 3 running moar rom. This was really an upgrade for the note 2 users clearly! Like 13 to 16mp camera isnt that much to pay 300 upgrade or 700+ retail. It does have a finger scanner which is main reason i wanted to upgrade. Screen brightness and clarity is good and a few more features for spen. Other than thats its a more expensive note 3. It wasnt suppose to be something note 3 users fantasize about. The note 5 will be for note 3 users just the way Samsung and phone compamies operate their phones since most of us are in 2 year aggrements.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] asim.sidz:
Right

You jotted it down right. Note 4 should be renamed as note 3.2 to do justice to the name.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] KingAlfred:
Got a chance to hold that bad boy. Wasn't impressed actually. Screen great. Pictures vs the note 3....DIS-A-POINT-ED! If you have a note 3 keep it, unless you like wiping your butt with money!
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] asim.sidz:
Haha! Good one.. :D
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] imex99:
Has Sprint received the battery update yet?
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] jauger:
Not yet..............
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] claude9039u:
I am in disagreement with what is being said about the Note 3 vs. Note 4 being basically the same phone. I have been using Samsung since the Note because of the larger screen vs, other phones and this has been the first time I have pre order a phone with out seeing it and holding it in my hand. I have always put Rom's on my phone never happy with the OEM rom and I have to say that I am very happy with the phone right out of the box. Not sure if i am getting old lol (47)., but the screen is by far the best I have never had, pictures and video are crisp and clear, both speakers are loud and the speed that everything runs at is just great! I have not one complaint about the phone! I use my phone like a computer its meant to be lots of pdf's, word, and excel documents along with watching at least 2 hours of video and streaming all day.Yes it cost a little more but hell everything cost more these days.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] pongoface:
When i went from the 2 to 3 it was for the screen alone. Night and day. Same going from the 3 to 4 for the screen. Night and day. Even my six year old said it looks cleaner. I still have my 3 btw. Im very happy with the upgrade.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] drewiskee:
lol, funny how you all are all saying the same thing.

"Note 4 is soooooo much better." Then only referring to the screen clarity. Few posts ago i mentioned the greatness of the screen. If thats enough to upgrade then by all means upgrade. Some people are just waiting for the real note 3 upgrade which will be the 5. (hence two year upgrade:silly: two years ago the note 2 came out. its time for them to upgrade.) Its a better phone than the note 3 hands down! it better be if its newer right??:rolleyes:
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] ubigred:
Can you explain how it's soooooooo much better? I'm being serious, not sarcastic.

Sent from my SGNote 3
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] drewiskee:
I am not the one saying that. as for i still have my note 3. You would have to ask the people that upgrade to it .
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] ubigred:
My apologies man. I didn't fully realize the context of your post. Watching TV while XDA'n.

I agree with your post btw

Sent from my SGNote 3
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] pongoface:
For me personal it is so much better on the following levels. Once again i own all 3 notes since the 2. Mind you, we are talking stock here. The software is smoother. Although I do prefer the dark menus on the 3. The camera and it's software is better. The build quality is so much superior than the 3. The aluminum makes it feel premium compared to the 3. The home button on the 4 is solid compared to the wiggly button on the 3. Did I mention sprint spark. I am getting 4g speeds of 40mb to 60mb in the city of Rochester, NY compared to my sparkless note 3 speeds of 15mb. Then the screen speaks for itself.

When the 3 came out the stock software left me wanting more. Kind of the same feeling on the 2 and currently on the 4. I'll give you that. But samsung improves it's software as do the devs. The note 4 will probably get an official lollipop before the 3. Notice I said official. I've been rooting phones since the evo 4g. Hope that satisfies your inquiries. BTW my 6 year old loves his used note 3 lol.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] drewiskee:
? Every aspect of the note 4 is suppose to be superior to the note 3 correct? :confused:

Im sure we can all agree if we can have one it would definitely be the note 4 (hence it just came out days ago;) )

Some users (myself mainly) are just stuck in 2 year contracts until the 5 comes out and dont find the need to buy it retail.

We didnt ask how long you have been rooting lol. I am sure some of us (myself) have been doing it prior to evo days.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] pongoface:
The op and others were asking what other reasons besides the screen make it so much better than the 3. I gave them. As for the rooting comment, i gave my experience on xda as a reference. :)
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] jamice4u:
Crazy internet speeds.

I never achieved internet speeds like this on my Note 3.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] jadoe05:
Well I'm glad someone actually asked. Am I saying the Note4 blows the 3 out of the water? No. It is, however a true upgrade. Anyone comparing Note4 stock to Note3 rooted and with a custom ROM is being delusional. Of course if you have two phones with similar hardware, the one that has been maxed out and tweaked to its full potential is going to be comparable. It even might win in some categories. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to convince anyone to get the Note4, if you are happy with your 3 then that’s all that matters.

Now on to the comparison. Obviously, the screen is better. It’s just a fact and we’ve been over that. Anyone who disagrees may need to get their eyes checked lol. A similar thing that is a definite upgrade is the camera. This again is a fact, but it hasn’t really been explained in this thread why. For those who think the same picture taken with the same settings on both phones could possibly look better on the 3, you are mistaken. Idk if it is that you’ve gotten so attached to your 3, or if you owe it money or something, but the most favorable outcome for the 3 in that situation is a tie. It’s called a bottleneck. The screen on the 3 is 720p which is 720 x 1280 or . The screen on the 4 is 1440 x 2560. This means that even if you take a 4k picture and look at it on the Note3, the most clarity you could possibly see in it is 720 x 1280. Also the sensor on the 4 is 1/2.6” which is almost 15% bigger than the 1/3.06” sensor that the 3 carries. Also not the end all be all, but the 4 has a higher megapixel count.

Another area where the 4 is a true upgrade is in data speeds and connectivity. Again this one is a fact. The 4 has all of the bands that the 3 has plus more. Places where I had LTE on my 3 my speeds are faster on my 4. Some places where I only got 3g on my 3 I get LTE on my 4. Some places where I couldn’t get a signal on my 3, I get 3g or LTE on my 4.

Now one area where the 3 wins hands down is the ability to talk and use data at the same time, though there is a way to do it, it is a bit cumbersome. We can blame that on Sprint rather than Samsung though. Also the Note3’s screen is brighter. That could be a pro or a con. I thought the min brightness on the 3 was too bright.

Everything else comparing the two phones (stock) is personal preference, or too early to truly measure.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] asim.sidz:
Not even close. Note 4 is Note 3.3 in disguise.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] ubigred:
I have a Note 3 right now and I have an upgrade on November 1st, so I'm still on the fence (leaning closer to keeping the 3).

When I had the Note 2, I walked into Best Buy to check out the Note 3, I instantly knew I wanted the 3. When I walked in to check out the 4 I didn't get that feeling and that's after 45 mins (rainy Friday night lol).

I have MOAR rom on my Note 3 so none of the software improvements really caught my eye.

Note 3 screen is definitely brighter. 1080p from 720 is a bigger jump than 1080p to 2k.

Honestly, I do want Spark but not at the cost of losing data&voice capability. Keep in mind, I get 15-18 on regular LTE all through out Houston.

Normally I would've just picked up the 4 because it's just what I do. I love Notes, buuuut I HAVE to have simultaneous voice and data.

The current 'work around' is indeed cumbersome and doesn't work if somebody calls.

I just find it laughable, that anyone would say the Note 4 is sooo much better than the Note 3.

.02

Sent from my SGNote 3
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] drewiskee:
Agreed
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] theoner1:
Question, is Sprint note 3 compatible with Sprint HD voice?
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] jsage:
Yes, it is. Tested in the store before we upgraded my wife's phone. Confirmed at home after we received hers.

have fun,

john
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] 00_MACKIE_00:
After having my Note 4 for almost 24 hours, this is the best device I have ever held.

I am thinking the negative posts about this device are just folks trolling'.

MACKIE
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] ubigred:
No simultaneous voice and data is major deal breaker for me.

Sent from my SGNote 3
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] drewiskee:
What negative posts?
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] jadoe05:
I'm pretty sure he is talking about the countless posts in this thread saying that the 3 is better or that the 4 isn't an upgrade, or it should be called the 3.3(or whatever was said). Just pick one. Lol.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] erik077:
Received mine last night and I can't say too much but here is couple things in defense of Note 3

I liked gallery on Note 3 more since I sort pictures by albums & folder, that does not work on Note 4 (everything is sorted but date now, gallery actually looks a lot like IOS?)

I missed left button click to access "settings menu", now task manager is there

Note 3 camera has better "zoom out" than note 4 - now I have to take some steps backs because pictures are too close and objects don't fit on screen. Not possible in tight spaces or small rooms

Old style settings buttons and sorting was better to me

Inside taken pictures ad pictures in low light condition are much better on Note 3 (at least for me)

You can get MPJ battery for Note 3 (which gave me 30% more power), for Note 4 not - for now

Don't get me wrong I like Note 4 but those are some things which I found better on Note 3.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] jadoe05:
It does work. Tap the three lines next to where it says time on the top left of the screen and select Album

I hated that too. If you are willing to root your phone, install xposed and install xposed additions you can remap that button to be a menu button

I'm not sure how tight you have to be to not get everything on screen. I don't have that issue, but maybe try a different camera app out and see if that works for you.

Agreed

I haven't tested that one yet

Never heard of that app, but I'm sure that's one that will be solved in time.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] drewiskee:
Is there a living soul on XDA that really thinks Note 3 is better?? or you just grabbed that from out the air?

(ive seen a few post about 3 camera being better maybe. Opinionated, though i think the 4 camera is clearly better )

I have yet to see where someone said Note 3 was better than note 4 lol (maybe the very 1st post?) other than that I havent read any post. If the post are actually read correctly note 3 users are saying they arent going to bother upgrading because of the specific changes to the note 4. I havent held the note 4 for as long as 24 hours. Maybe 30 mins at max and I know that its the best phone I have ever held. As for me im waiting for my contract to be over which happens to be around the time the note 5 to come out. THE CHANGES FROM 3 TO 4 ARENT GOING TO HAVE ME LEAVING MY 2 YEAR CONTRACT OR BUY IT RETAIL.

So i ask again what negative post? maybe you can pick one for me? Lol
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] erik077:
Thank you for your help with gallery, this helps a lot (I have private and pictures from work, don't want to mix them). MPJ battery is not an app but replacement battery in standard size bt gives at least 20-30% more power. They don't have one for Note 4 yet, but should be out soon. See here http://www.mpjbattery.com/
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] jadoe05:
My punctuation isn't always the best on forums so you'll have to excuse me for not being clear. Lol. When I said countless, I meant of all those types of posts(1. note 3 is better. 2. note 4 isn't a true upgrade. and 3. note 4 should be called note 3.3 (still not sure the exact quote on that last one)) combined. There being only one as you say, though I haven't reread the whole thread, post saying the Note 3 is better is enough. Again, I'm not expecting or asking you, or anyone else, to spend money on the Note 4 if you think it isn't worth it. That's fine. As a matter of fact, I have some free time I'll pull up some direct quotes.

That's a negative post.

That's a negative post. And categorically incorrect. Again, there is no way that taking the same picture with the same settings is going to look better on the 3. It's called a bottleneck. It's come to my attention that the 3 may perform better in low light, but I haven't tested that.

I guess the rest of it is people saying the same thing repeatedly. I don't think he meant like an attack or anything as, like I said, I really don't think anyone cares what phone someone else has. Here is the thing though, it is a true upgrade worthy of being called the Note 4. IMO it's the best phone out right now and that's good enough for me. Anyone who held it for a half hour, or is comparing it opening day stock to a super pimped out optimized custom Note 3 is just being biased.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] drewiskee:
Note 3 is awesome device. Anything after is even aweSOMEer

Every one can perceive things to be negative or positive so I wont take my work time to argue that.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] unsane:
Note 4

Anyone unhappy with there note 4, I gotta brand new s5 "and a note 3 trade straight up...... Hella deal if anyone wants I on it..... Both clean esn s5 comes with spigen neo hybrid and tempered glass screen protector Text 310-928-4564
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] asim.sidz:
My calling it a note 3.3 was not an attack on the series. I'm a proud owner of note 3 while my cousin has note 4 which i swapped with her and used for a couple of days. The change did not seem huge enough for me to desert the note 3, that is all that matters and that is what i felt.

Cannot say about others but personally the note 4 did not meet my expectations. 4 is slighter better but not enough to make you want to switch from 3 to 4. Rest is upto the user's liking.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] erik077:
I am glad for this screen and real metal frame. Good bye to silver peeling paint from Note 3 frame. Everything that i pointed to update to 5.0 will (or should) fix (and MPJ battery should be launched soon as well). I love this upgrade!
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] wisnia99:
I just upgraded to note 4 from note 3 and i agree that the upgrade isnt as big as with 2 to 3 but its an upgrade definetly with screen quality and the camera. To tell youvthe truth not sure its worth the $400 once you sell note 3 for 350 but i like new gadgets and i will probably keep mine unless i dont really like something in the next 10 days
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] llawen:
I also upgraded from 3 to 4. So far im loving it. Screen is far better. The only complaint is 4g signal is weak at best. My note 3 had perfect signal in my house. Note4 is very weak and slow compaired to the note 3. Hopefully a fix will be coming soon. So far i can live with it. Wifi at work and home.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] asim.sidz:
10 days!?? lol..

---------- Post added at 02:01 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:00 AM ----------

Glad to hear that people are regretting buying the 4 and deserting 3..
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] llawen:
Definitely an upgraded camera. It blows note 3 away. It can focus within an inch of a subject. very clear shots. The immage stabilization is awsome. Loaded some shots.

AS FOR ME.....GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] super evo:
Ready to upgrade from my n2. Still debating N3 or N4?
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] nerys71:
Unless you absolutely have to have the temp/humidity sensor (lacking on the note 4) and absolutely positively MUST have 4g data while on a voice call.

there is no real choice to make here. Go with the Note 4.

better in pretty much every way possible. (although many of those betters are only slightly better)

Screen and Camera are BIG improvements.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] llawen:
One thing I noticed, when you take a video if you store it to sd card you can not play it. I did some research and it seems it is 4.4.4, google made 4.4.4 write only to sd card. So apps can not read from sd card.

Can anyone confirm this?

AS FOR ME.....GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] theoner1:
Nope, video playback is fine when saved to sd card on my Note 4. Stock unrooted.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] pbedard:
If u riot u can us sd card fix easily
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] ubigred:
Really depends. I have a Note 3. I also have an upgrade that's up on Nov 1... I'm sticking with the Note 3 (MOAR), I have to have voice and data.

Sent from my SGNote 3
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] IFMISM:
I got the note 4 and i still have my note 3. For me it was a no brainer. I got the note 4 for $100 after i traded in a $10 phone. I actually got it for insurance. It would cost me $200 to $300 to replace my note 3 if broken or get a new one for less. That being said, i have grown to like the phone. I think it will be even better when spark comes to town
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] asim.sidz:
The camera looks considerably better. Could you provide us the relative benchmarks of both of your devices?

I know it's fairly ambiguous or inaccurate, but still just curious.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 General] furiousgtz:
I love Note 4! People who are saying its not worth it or note 3.3? are you kidding me? It's an upgrade from Note 3, screen, camera, performance, hardware and that's just a start. I'm happy with this phone. I actually bought it at $550 (250+300 for the phone) bought out my contract out to get discount and sold note 3 on ebay for $355 end up paying $200 and worth it.

I loved my Note 3 that thing was powerful and still awesome device.