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[Teclast X98 Air 3G] HUB107:
After installing dual bios on my c6j6 i revert back to android. But touchsreen not working in android.

But at same time touchsreen work in bios, dualboot menu, windows 8

. Can someone help with it?
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] bibi63:
In windows 3g and gps are ok? Can I use 3g and gps without problems?

Thanks.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] HUB107:
no problem at all with 3g and gps
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] PWMx:
Better cooling helps with freezes / crashes / reboots !!

So my C6J6 has had stability issues with heavy 3D apps, like many other ...

First I tried to improve cooling by re-distributing thermal pads under the can lid.

It was a slight improvement - However it still froze after a while (half an hour, or so).

Now I placed ~100mm pyrolytic graphite sheet thermal spreader with adhesive on both sides under the circuit board.

(First you need to remove two screws around connectors. Then you can lift the circuit board and put the sheet underneath.)

Immediately I noticed that the lid is not too hot to touch anymore. Clear difference in the perceived temperature !!

Also the 3D benchmark has been running continuously for several hours.

Again this is to be expected. The SoC package is FCBGA, which is known to dissipate much of the heat via the circuit board.

In my case there were thin insulating air gap underneath the board. (It looks like there is place designed for some thermal tape.)

Now the SoC is mostly cooled to the display frame/backside. Topside cooling is hardly needed.

I'll replace the factory topside heat spreader with this same graphite sheet so it'll glue against the aluminium cover.

Then it must be enough - as it cannot get much better. And it works OK already now (without the back cover).
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] grigoris_a:
So I decided to also install android along with Windows.After installing the android lite Rom I decided to install Windows from supercowz `s iso.Everything went fine BUT a strange thing happened.In Windows the battery reports correctly now the full capacity.

Previously with the same dual boot bios windows(teclast with Bing)and pro version I had download from Chinese forum reported half the capacity.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
Hello! thanks for beeing here! I just need your help if you can :silly:

I am going to open a dispute to refund my money but you know later i need some proofs and evidinces that i am right about it. Aliexpress is always %70 side by sellers and only %30 side by buyers rights.

I found these links from teclast official forum, what else can we find from that forum as proofs? Do you have any talking history with teclast tech guy or somethings you can help about this all to me? hope you understand me.

These are the links from teclast forum :

http://bbs.teclast.com/thread-258286-1-1.html

http://bbs.teclast.com/thread-258791-1-1.html

http://bbs.teclast.com/thread-259923-1-1.html

http://bbs.teclast.com/thread-258636-1-1.html

http://bbs.teclast.com/thread-259746-1-2.html

and this is the official link of our tablet on teclast.com

http://www.teclast.com/en/zt/X98Air3G/
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] ambrosio5:
Great solution!,

Can you publish some photos of the actual modification together with a link for "100mm pyrolytic graphite sheet thermal spreader"?

Thank you...
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
thanks for info, i also had doubts about it was a thermal issue but still the way you do in your tablet, doesnt mean that it will work for everyone. I also noticed something while playin Dead Trigger, a popup game after 10 minutes. please look at the attach.. And the place i marked as bold, seems a bit difficult to me, wish you could make a video to show us or some photos for how to do, where can we find that 100 mm pyrolytic graphite sheet thermal spreader, how to place it in the tablet etc etc

also can you play Real Racing 3? cos it never let me even 1 minute play, maybe it will be the best test for you too
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] ImJamIN:
Yes, PWmX

Please post some pics and more info for your project.

Thank you

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Can you quote the post of iso link ?

Thanks
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] grigoris_a:
Supercowz has made a video with links here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxpU_hFup64&app=desktop
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] PWMx:
Sorry, no pictures or video this time - It's already closed. But again, there wouldn't really be much anything to see ...

The graphite sheet I used is custom piece, but you can find similar things.

Its something like these : Digi-Key Panasonic PGS

Probably copper or aluminium tape with adhesives on both sides (or any other proper thermal interfacing material) would work instead.

If you manage to open the tablet, re-distribute pads under the can lid then it's already mostly done.

Just unscrew those two screws near connectors (USB, headset and HDMI). Then you can slightly lift the board.

Cut same width piece as the board from the foil / thermal sheet. Length is not critical - mine was ~100mm.

It helps to have backing foils on both side to protect the adhesive. I exposed first the board side adhesive while carefully placing it under.

When the sheet was located I placed the board on top of it and lifted again. Then I exposed the display side adhesive ...

So the circuit board will be glued to the display frame with the thermal adhesives and head spreader sheet.

From top side / can lid I removed the factory aluminium thermal spreader foil.

I replaced it with similar graphite sheet covering the can lid and extending on top of battery.

So the can lid (on top of SoC etc.) will be glued to the aluminium back cover with the thermal adhesives and head spreader sheet.

I would say that the only tricky part here is to obtain the thermal interfacing material with adhesive on both sides.

BTW - Now the display and somewhat also the back cover gets warm along the circuit board area. Before those areas weren't so noticeable warm.

So far no crashes - 3D benchmark was running continuously for two hours and now DD almost as much :victory:
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] so_ang:
I install Win8 Lite from this link it only Chinese Lang ??

My Screen still not in right position & Touch Screen still on opposite side

How to solve this problem ???

When on boot it dnt hav any Android icon for me to choose boot Android how to fix ???

3) Installing Windows

This small Windows icon is the only way to get the BIOS to boot into your USB drive to install Windows. This dual boot BIOS has no boot menu, and in the BIOS there is no option to select to boot from USB, so this is the only way to boot to a USB drive that I know of so far...

(If you already have a USB stick prepared, skip this section in BLUE)

Preparing your Windows USB Stick:

You can install Windows via the traditional method which involves the GUI (in which case you will need an OTG HUB to plug in the USB Drive and mouse together) OR you can use a downloaded wimboot image (no need for HUB and mouse, just a thumbdrive will do).

Whichever method you choose, copy all the Windows files (after extraction) to the root of the USB drive.

I used this wimboot image that automatically uses WinPE to get through the whole install process automatically without needing a single mouse click, which also has all the drivers and everything installed and working properly:

http://bbs.teclast.com/thread-258279-1-1.html

There are two links:

Full version (i.e.: with bloatware in my opinion): http://pan.baidu.com/s/1hq6AbRI password: zgjl

One Lite version with only the necessities: http://pan.baidu.com/s/1pJFjq5P password: wy2q
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] grigoris_a:
First you must have dual boot bios.Then install android.Then when you will boot with the Windows installation usb connected you will see the screen with the Windows s small icon.

Something to be NOTED in the guide is that you can install any Windows version as long it is not wimboot(like teclast image).If it is a winPE installation then you need the correct winpart file that will not format the entire drive and you lose android.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] so_ang:
I ljust in stall that Win8 Lite from tht Link it Chinese ver. But now how to makr it dual boot bcoz It show only Win 8 Icon when I restart it

Thanks
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] francescoliberti:
Guys can help me ... I put the bios and dual boot Android 4.4.4 rom lite rom ... okay .... but when I try to put windows (windows 8.1 lite rom + drivers) already prepared without rufus .. .I install windows and takes my android .... does not make me choose any partition ... how can I do?
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] grigoris_a:
You can't .The lite version has incorrect wimpart file.It has deleted your android installation.You have to install android again.Doing that will delete your win installation.After finish installing android then install Windows.You can use the full version of the links or better yet the Windows supercowz posted(you will need Rufus to burn iso and keyboard and mouse connected.It's English version)

Link is 2,3 posts above in the youtube.

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I believe someone has to correct the guide.Lite version is not dual boot compatible
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] mirek190:
I payed Diablo III on that tablet - works great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaqbtA-lqbo&list=UUZrzmJGPYsbqhq4CkVLaNAg
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] francescoliberti:
someone can advise me the best rom windows 8.1 with drivers right (camera and touchscreen) which is also compatible with the dual boot? thanks so much
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
mirek, i saw on of your videos, you are using resolution changer, does it require root?

if i change the resolution to 1024 x768 and play games like that, do you think thte the tablet will get less heat and thermal issues and maybe not freeze like before?
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] so_ang:
OK I get it

Now I need to do from start again but change the way to install Win8 to make it can dual boot right ....
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] grigoris_a:
That is correct.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] ISEENOEVIL:
I am using C8J7 using Windows 8.1 with Bing (Teclast BETA) out of the box i dont need to install drivers
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] mirek190:
On android I changing resolution just for 1 game - aspart 8 to 1024x768 then on max detail is full frame rate

You can check .

But I think in your case the best way is just open the tablet and install some radiators on chip and memory like was suggested before .

You spare few minutes on it and you probably get full stable tablet . I think this is better solution than sending back , waiting ....
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
dear mirek, yes i changed the resolution to 1024 x768 and dpi 140 and tried to play Dead Trigger but 10 minutes after, freezed again. It was even in LOW graphic details. My case seems more than a thermal heating issue.. if the tablet even doesnt let a game on this resolution and in the lowest graphic settings, there must be a worse problem :confused:

In poland, where can i find thoese thermal pads? on allegro? or somewhere else? would you help me to find them? I live in Poznan, maybe a local store :highfive:
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] severall:
I doesn't really matter if details are low on high. GPU always want to render as high frames per seconds as possible. Maybe frame limiter will lower GPU usage and produce less heat ?

About thermal pads: you may use these : http://allegro.pl/termopad-thermopad-chlodzenie-30w10-15x-60-mm-i4856409947.html
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
Guys, please tell me if i buy these thermal pads and somehow i locate them inside the tablet, will it help to the graphic issues? And [MENTION=6211390]PWMx[/MENTION] gave me another kind of thermal material, it is more flat and big, it is like a kind of thermal paper, this one on allegro looks different

maybe something like that work better?

http://allegro.pl/termopad-thermopad-100mm-x-100mm-x-1-5mm-3-2-wmk-i4834894914.html
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] keepfishes:
Okay I've updated.

This is an old version of the guide. I have updated this yesterday already, please look at the new version here. I change my guide everyday.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] PWMx:
Those thicker pads (gap-pad etc.) are suitable for under the can. But there you could probably re-use the existing pads, as I did.

For both sides of the circuit board you need this thin material (0.1mm or so). Otherwise you might have difficulties in closing the tablet :silly:

It seems that the place to get these thermal materials is the same from where you got the tablet : China (ebay or aliexpress etc.)

You could search ebay for "double sided thermal adhesive tape". I would look for 40-50mm (or more) in width.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
Guys in this chinese topic, they are talking about changing some bios settings(turn off turbo mode etc) and games dont crash anymore, but the overal performance of tablet just goes down, for example antutu score descrease from 32k to 22k etc.

http://bbs.teclast.com/thread-258636-1-1.html

and please check the attachs about bios settings.. but this is not for dual boot bios because we dont have such a bios menu in that one.

[MENTION=4723868]keepfishes[/MENTION], can you confirme me if i am right about the chinese forum i gave above?
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] PWMx:
Makes sense ...

But how I get into these menus ? Via ADB or USB keyboard !?

(I'm running android .. Is there some trick to reboot from there into BIOS/UEFI menu ?)
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
first of all, it doesnt work for dual boot bios, it must be the first bios that came with tablet.

And to go that bios, i think we need usb keyboard and enter f2 or dell or something like that, i dont know really. Maybe we need to flash into Windows to see that bios screen..

[MENTION=1167021]Hendrickson[/MENTION] must now about it, he kept entering the bios and change so many settings there but later bricked his tablet :D
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] francescoliberti:
guys please help me I'm going crazy ... every time when I put Android always stops at this point ... I have tried at least 30-40 times nothing ..... there must be a solution?
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] keepfishes:
Connect an OTG keyboard and press ESC during boot to go into BIOS.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Witand1979:
Installing Windows 8.1 on Teclast Air II

Please can someone give me a pointer, as I am a bit stuck.

I have tried following the first post on Page #1 of this thread, but found that the INTEL MANUFACTURING TOOLS executable archives contain some very nasty malware, and have spent the last day removing it all.

Is there a definitive post for upgrading from Android to Windows on the Teclast Air II (X98 HG5N) with safe links that I can use that don't contain any viruses/malware. I'm usually quite good at avoiding spyware, but there is no way to avoid it with the links provided. I do want to create a restore point as I am worried I may brick the device.

Any help/pointers would be greatly appreciated!
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
what about these? Will they work? Please read item desc. in the link

http://www.ebay.com/itm/20PC-x-25-2...hermal_Compounds_Supplies&hash=item19f26c62b8

and also i can buy this thermal pad to put into the next tablet if i can make it replaced or buy from another seller

http://allegro.pl/termopad-thermopad-100mm-x-100mm-x-1-5mm-3-2-wmk-i4834894914.html

i mean even i get non problematic tablet, i can still locate these tapes and pads in tablet to help it work cooler, they re cheap anyway
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Hendrickson:
In that case if it's Windows you want get the Windows Air 3G or the Air II X98 model.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] keepfishes:
Try to use another PC to flash.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] keepfishes:
There is updated version, I have posted the image. Change those BIOS settings and reboot the tablet.

View attachment 3055447

View attachment 3055448
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
There is still no way to do this in dual boot bios yes? only for previous bios
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] pcbroute:
I can confirm it.

I have X98 3G C6J6 windows 8.1, i flash the Dual boot BIOS

and now battery meter shows false values, faster drainage, and long stays on 7%.

and i can confirm real working and charging time is the same as before flashing.

You can confirm, if i flash old BIOS back, it fix battery meter? And it will be shows a correct values again?

And it does not affect to the working or charging time.

(but values of capacity now is 14 340 mWh)

That's what I thought. What will happen if the flash DUALBIOS again (with 14 340 mWh capacity value)?
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] grigoris_a:
I have already done that(flashed win only bios) with no change at all.Flashed dual bios again.What corrected the error for me was when I installed android(loosing Windows) and installed Windows after that(supercowz version witch is not Wimboot).Now meter shows correct values.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] francescoliberti:
I tried with 2 pc ... always the same ... there must be a reason for this block
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] keepfishes:
Yes, new bios has no options

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What is the stuck percentage on the computer?
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
[MENTION=6211390]PWMx[/MENTION] , [MENTION=2198172]mirek190[/MENTION], [MENTION=4430020]severall[/MENTION] , guys i flashed the old bios and changed the settings from bios.

Lets see what will happen with gaming, i will update you.

UPDATE :

I have been playing Real Racing 3 for 15 minutes and no freeze or crash yet! but before in 1 minute, it alwaysncrashed with no other exception!!!

so this bios settings works but lower the cpu performance a bit! :mad:
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] francescoliberti:
90%..... I found the solution ... to add to the first post .... it is as if the tablet hangs and then after a little more .... just that then exits droidboot timeout and locks everything .. .to solve just open parameters manufacting flash tool and put on 1000 os timeout .... so even if the tablet freezes and resumes after a while, the program will not timeout.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Witand1979:
Intel Manufacturing Tool

Can someone point me to a link to the INTEL MANUFACTURING TOOL please?

The two links on Page #1 both contains malware/viruses.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] francescoliberti:
Now I ask you .... I can indicate a rom windows 8.1 with the correct drivers that supports the dual boot? I do not want to lose again and start over Android
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] rachidcool77:
we are all in this thread work with this IMT linked on post 1 and be sure that there are save just desactivate antivirus ;)
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Witand1979:
OK, yeah I'll spin up a separate OS and extract it from that. Sorry to interrupt! :p
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] BoORDeL:
POST 4 point to the orignal 3D by keepfishes... read that post and

GUYS STOP ASKING ALWAYS THE SAME STUFF.

READ POST 2-3-4 THAN RELAX TAKE A BREATH... AND READ POST 2-3 and 4 AGAIN.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] mirek190:
In that case your cpu or GPU is over hitting that's why freezing .

In my case just a one tablet was unstable but I flashed dual bios and works fine - I suspect that they improve a bit voltage for cpu - for my cpu is enough but not enough for yours.

You should try do do something with it , radiators or something like that.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] rachidcool77:
what exactly the changes on win8.1 full for not format android partition
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] keepfishes:
GUYS, as Boordel has said, please read tutorials before asking questions which are already in my tutorial. The whole forum has been filled with repeat questions and this thread is long because of that.

PLEASE READ TUTORIAL AT POST #1929, I'M MAKING UPDATES EVERYDAY...
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Hendrickson:
Yes you can disable intel speedstep and the turbo without any issues. Other settings, be very careful. I bricked mine charging a S5 charging setting or some other setting. And my tablet will not boot up and needs to be flashed. I hope to have the usb flasher and clip any day now to fix my Air 3G.

As for the throttling, I do fine it odd that the Teclast Air's do not have direct heat/thermal transfer with the aluminum case. All there is a tape and thin copper heat spreader over the soc and ram chips. There is no thermal pad to connect the die with the metal case and use it as a large heat sink like many other tablets do. It might not be required by the z3700 series, but if you were to put some thermal pads on the cpu/gpu die and ram chips I think there is a good chance to really drop the temperatures down via heat transfer.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] francescoliberti:
if I was wrong and I deleted all partitions again is because this is not written in the first post .... 1,2,3 and 4 post I know them by heart ... and nowhere is it written well the rom to use for dual boot .... it is difficult to attach the link in windows 8.1 rom with drivers right ???
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Hendrickson:
So installing/flashing Android fix this for you? So now in Windows you have a correct battery reading? Hmm, I will have to look into this is I can fix the dead Air 3G.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] BoORDeL:
CAzzo ma ce la fai a leggere il post 1929 che è linkato nel post 4??

lo stesso che ha indicato keepfishes??

e si sta facendo un culo quadro per rendervi la vita piu facile.??

E' faticoso leggere i post precedenti a quello in cui si scrive?? è stato chiesto mille volte oramai quello che chiedi... e che cazzo un po di rispetto per chi si fa il culo per voi!!!

Sorry for italian language.. i used so many bad words that it was difficoult for me to translate it into english :D
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] keepfishes:
Haha, oh no... I think we should make a wiki for all this info, it might be useful to compile all the frequently encountered problems. But I don't know how to do it...

But even if we have a wiki and people don't read it, it will be useless too...
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] francescoliberti:
ITALIAN

è inutile che ti incazzi...se ho perso tutte le partizione è perché su quella guida ci stava la rom lite che fa perdere tutto...infatti molti hanno trovato la stessa mia difficoltà.....ora non avevo capito che avevate aggiornato quella guida....grazie per il lavoro, ma rimani calmo...se ci sono 1000 pagine è perché non è organizzato bene...si dovrebbero fare dei post per ogni problema....ora sto scaricando la rom SUPERCOWS Win 8.1 version...spero vada bene.....ero preoccupato di sbagliare di nuovo perché quando metto android prima di andare devo flasharla 50 volte perchè si ferma al 90%.....

ENGLISH

English

it is useless to you angry ... if I lost all the partition is because of that guide us was that the rom lite lose everything ... in fact many have found the same difficulties ..... my time I did not realize that you had updated the guide .... thanks for the work, but stay calm ... if there are 1000 pages is because it is not well organized ... you should do the post for every problem .... now I'm downloading the rom SUPERCOWS Win 8.1 version ... I hope goes well ..... I was worried about making mistakes again because when I put android before going I have to flash it 50 times because it stops at 90% .....
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] BoORDeL:
Exactly... you r doing a great job man... i have no words to thank you for your effort.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] francescoliberti:
I also thank keepfishes for his work ... is outstanding .... only that if there are problems you just say them ... maybe there are problems just because here everything is messy
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] keepfishes:
No problem guys, chill out. :cowboy:

If there is anything I will always look out for it and update Post #1929, because I can't update #4. I know there are many problems, that's why I have to update my post everyday.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] BoORDeL:
the reason why here there r 1000 pages or more depends on pleople like you who don't use their time in reading and understanding but in asking.

Just remember we are here for plesure... nobody is paying for this service.

Have respect for those who lavishes
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] francescoliberti:
I read all 258 pages .... it was enough to put a link to the rom instead of starting this controversy
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] BoORDeL:
Last message sorry guys...

The link is there.. just read keepfishes post.