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[Nexus 9 General] mkygod:
Don't really understand why people think the N9 is THAT expensive.

Sure, if you compare it to a Nexus 7, it is expensive. but this is a high end tablet with a bigger screen. It's not even in the same class. This is MUCH closer in class and size to the Nexus 10 which is the device that cost the SAME as the Nexus 9 and costs MORE than the Nexus 9 in the 32gb configuration The Nexus 9 appears to be better built as well.

This makes me wonder why people keep comparing the N9 against the N7 when its closer in line with the N10.
[Nexus 9 General] joshndroid:
realistically people are happy with the previous price point of the devices. i too was initially woo'd by the the spec vs price. I have however, come to learn that specs/price is not everything with actual device feel to be the real factor. After venturing away from nexus devices on my previous upgrades (purchased a note 3 after my nexus 4 and a note 10.1 2014 after a motorola xoom) i have found that the hype is just that, hype.
[Nexus 9 General] MRobbo80:
Pretty much the same circumstances as you, also with devices lol, what people have expected with the new nexus line up is allot cheaper prices. But spec versus price you still get great value for money.

I for one will look for alternative devices in the near future, just can not simply afford it. I thought Google had a great game plan, high speed devices that was AFFORDABLE! sadly not any more [emoji22]
[Nexus 9 General] joshndroid:
you will be hard pressed I would say for the specs... maybe 1plus2 may be the next port of call... u had to squirrel away my birthday money in anticipation for the 6
[Nexus 9 General] nonstop14:
Personally I think the price steps are the biggest problem along with the small amount of small memory options. $400 for the 16gb device, 16gb is pathetic in 2015 but considering that's for the whole package it's not an outrageous price for a high end tablet but they need more memory options at more reasonable price steps. To just add another 16gb and an LTE chip it increases the price by 50% to $600? Terrible and thus far what's keeping me from purchasing and it's making me reconsider Apple.

In the mean time I'm hoping for a refresh with greater memory capacity and more reasonable price steps to go along with them. At this point I'm seriously considering switching to the Apple ecosystem as I'm growing weary of waiting for a quality Android tablet with adequate memory and without bloatware galore.
[Nexus 9 General] MRobbo80:
I could not even think of going to apple, I love to root my devices to get the best out of them, love to flash different ROMs, mods, kernels, over-clocking and so on. Yes I could not agree more with you, with larger capacity.By now it should be at least 64gb 128gb. But there is a alternative like otg that takes the sting out of it for me. Just wish that Google will have a SD in future! I'm sure that they would get a hell of allot more sales! But sadly I can not see this happening any time soon.
[Nexus 9 General] tamanaco:
In a word... Yes, too expensive. My 2012 N7 with 32GB of internal memory cost me $249 + tax and shipping. If in fact the N9 is the N7 replacement, I was willing to pay $100 more ($349) for a replacement that "also" had 32GB. Apparently, in Google Land the cost for internal storage has gone up a lot in the past two years. A 16GB N9 with an external SD slot for $300 would have also been acceptable.The feature set (at release time), portability, firmware upgrades frequency and the price point were the winning combination that made the N7 popular. I don't think this winning combination exists with the N9. I might be wrong, but in a few months time if volume sales are not meeting expectations the price for the N9 will either drop or its production will be cut. I agree that the performance of the N9 will surpass the lackluster performance of my N7 and that the N9 also has a couple nice (better) features. But when I travel the 32GB of my $249 N7 can still pack a few more movies than the $400 N9 and play them just as well... and let's not forget that my N7 also takes less space.
[Nexus 9 General] Blocoholi:
N9 is the replacement of the N10 and not of the N7...
[Nexus 9 General] tamanaco:
I thought the N7 "and" the N10 were being dropped and replaced by the N9. More like a 2 for 1 model replacement this year. Looking back both the 2012 and 2013 models of the N7 were released in July. We're almost at year's and it looks like Google is only releasing "one" tablet this year. I must assume that the N7 has been discontinued and replaced by the N9. I could be wrong, but there's mo evidence or rumors out there about a replacement for the N7 this year or the next.
[Nexus 9 General] dianestory2:
Well, thank you for pointing out the potential of minimalism. But I meant that I DO need to pay bills, and take care of my children. I mean to say that while it is acceptable to splurge on oneself from time to time, $400 is a little bit out of my personal comfort zone, at the moment. It might be a Christmas gift for the family, though. We'll see.
[Nexus 9 General] mkygod:
Yes, you could say the N9 is a replacement for both N7 and N10 models. However, in terms of capability, size , and quality, the N9 is firmly closer to the N10 than the N7.

To use an analogy, the N7 is a Honda Civic and the N10 is an Acura sedan. The N9 is just a smaller Acura sedan with a beefed up engine, so why would they give it away at a Honda price?
[Nexus 9 General] Robo56:
I'm also upset with the price of the Nexus 6. I was hoping it would keep similar pricing in line close to the Nexus 5.
[Nexus 9 General] tamanaco:
Because it's a "smaller" Accura sedan with a just a "beefed up" engine... not the larger Accura sedan which seats 5 comfortably. The N9 should have been priced somewhere between. the $299-$349 range with 32GB to make it attractive. We all know that 16GB is not enough for a WiFi tablet because WiFi is not available everywhere to stream content. I like to have my music library and a few movies stored in my tablet so that I can play them when I sit by the beach or a hotel pool. The LTE N9 which would give you streaming everywhere will probably be in the $550-$650 range and you'd have pay for the LTE and multimedia streaming service(s) of your choice. A lot of money for those budget conscious folks that would like to upgrade their $249 32GB N7. If the N9 becomes popular, I'm sure Samsung will come up with a tablet with similar features at a competitive price. I know that the firmware of a Samsung tablet won't be upgraded as frequently, but lately even Google is taking a long time in between firmware releases. Google placed the N7 at the sweet price point spot in the tablet market given its feature set... the N9 is nowhere near that spot.
[Nexus 9 General] sBel:
I agree that is expensive. As other people said, not for the tablet itself...the storage options are terrible.

I would gladly pay that prices if the storage starts at 32GB with +100$ for the 64GB version.
[Nexus 9 General] aakashji:
I do not understand why people are talking about 'IF' or 'BUT' when they cannot do anything about the price. Just pay the price and enjoy nexus 9.
[Nexus 9 General] Won't be druv:
How lovely for you that you seem to be in a position where the price is immaterial to you. Not everyone has such a fortunate set of circumstances.

And second 'can't understand why people are taking'?

I thought this was a forum, you know, where people discuss stuff that's of interest to them, perhaps i am mistaken?
[Nexus 9 General] joshndroid:
^^ buy a different device? Yes complain about the price but you can choose not to purchase at the end of the day it's your hard earned cash
[Nexus 9 General] MRobbo80:
Hello m8 what's your budget?
[Nexus 9 General] Won't be druv:
Not quite as much as that. Unfortunately US prices do not translate to UK prices as the nexus 9 would be somewhere around £250 i believe.

Everyone has a cut-off point, it seems pointless for someone who has the budget to moan at people who don't and tell them to buy it anyway. Personally, i love nexus devices, so much more freedom and tons of customisation etc but i was hoping for something to replace my 2012 nexus 7 as i like the size.
[Nexus 9 General] CerB:
buy the nexus 7 2013, its so much better than the 2012 one
[Nexus 9 General] Won't be druv:
That is a good suggestion and one I've been considering since the nexus 9 price was publicised. However i may wait a month or two to see if there is any downward shift in price of the 9.
[Nexus 9 General] dianestory2:
It is a little expensive right now, but just wait a while, and see if the price drops if you are interested. Usually, the prices do drop to a more reasonable amount after a few months.
[Nexus 9 General] MRobbo80:
It's more like ,

£319.00 same as US
[Nexus 9 General] roninmedia:
A U.S. retailer had a sale on the 16GB Galaxy Tab S 10.5 yesterday for $399, which is a savings of $100 off the normal retail price. Others are already offering $100 off the iPad Air and iPad Mini 2.

If you are willing to wait it out, we can see a moderate price reduction for the holiday shopping season. :)
[Nexus 9 General] MRobbo80:
Wait sod that! That's against my religion. Click buy now!!!!! ?
[Nexus 9 General] Won't be druv:
Google tells me that 399 dollars is 249 pounds, so no that's not the same.
[Nexus 9 General] MRobbo80:
Conversion rates due tally to that sum, But UK pay £319 so yes it is the same!
[Nexus 9 General] Zeblade:
Well its nice to see not many getting sucked into "OMG 64bit WOW" haha. Me.. its 2014 and a new tablet with no sd slot only 16gb and all for $400..ouch. I bought the Miui MI Pad. Other then the still beta UI and paying a tad over $300 which got me 64gb, its awesome. No cheap memory.. they can put 64gb on but google cant (through HTC)?

Then if you want just 16gb more that will cost you $80+ WOW. Then you just have to sit back in shock and read people sticking up for, giving reason for, why its a awesome deal.. again wow. This is not about having the money.. its about them taking you to the bank.... man EXPECT something for your money.

I am no fan of Chinese tablets yet this MI PAD is the best one I have ever owned.

No lets not go to la la land here when talking about the K1 64bit or not it LOVES, SUCKS down power. Not playing games then it will last along time.
[Nexus 9 General] Celtish:
I have to agree with Crash Test in regards to memory. For this price point, there should be 128 GB or more memory, especially considering that Google has dug their heels in about ever putting expandable storage back on one of their devices. I went from having a Nexus One (one ATT no less bought directly from Google) to going Samsung (Have a Tab Pro 8.4) because of this decision.

Before someone snipes me about Cloud Storage, or a USB Dongle, you should know I spend several years of my life in the military. I tend to think of worse case scenario, such as no internet etc. There goes the cloud.

As far as the USB storage, I'll agree that it is a boon, but it's not meant to replace microSDXC storage. If we went with this mode of thinking, we'd just permanently solder hard drives to mother boards, and then tell users it's not a big deal as they can always use external HDDs to make of for that lack of capacity.

Personal opinion: Much like expanding bus architecture in desktops led to more HDD/SSD ports, we should by this time have multiple microSDXC ports in a tablet. Until Google get's it (which it won't, as limiting expandable storage is a way to push the Cloud) I'll vote with my wallet and give my cash to those companies who get it.
[Nexus 9 General] rdelfin:
Correction, it's not a matter of Google not getting it. As you pointed out, offering lower disk capacities is their way to encourage their business of cloud storage.

Is this a valid and legit thing to do for them? ABSO-FU#@$!G-LUTLY.

You don't have to like it, you don't have to buy it, and you certainly don't have to eat it. You can take your dollars elsewhere indeed.

This << Damn Google, they betrayed what the Nexus product line stands for >> is getting ridiculous quite frankly. Google and HTC are in the business of making money, like any other business.
[Nexus 9 General] Celtish:
I don't find it ridiculous. When they released the first Nexus device, it was meant to push the envelope a great deal, which it did for it's time.

Restating what I just said with a heaping helping of snark is not only disrespectful, but counter-productive. We know reps from most of the device companies read through this board (maybe not every post, but who knows).

I never went to Apple due to the predatory lock-in the usually do (DRM, proprietary gear, the constant need to jailbreak even when other manufacturers were going away from it). Google (and Android to a lesser extent) with the Nexus One made an unlocked, tuned up *Great* piece of hardware. Making good hardware, pushing the boundaries of what you can shoehorn into a cell phone form factor (or tablet for that matter) and making money aren't mutually exclusive concepts.

To put it another way: I would *gladly* pay 50 - 100% more than what they are charging for the newest Nexus devices if they would stop making crippled products and start really pushing the boundaries of what you can put in devices of that size. (think multiple SDXC slots, IR/RF blasters for remotes, FM Radios Etc)

As for the cloud, after the Fappening and the stuff that's been going around about NSA, hackers, etc, more and more people are electing to *not* save things to the cloud. So, while it's ABSO-FU#@$!G-LUTLY legal for Google to push these services, considering more and more people are becoming concerns about the privacy aspect of it, it's yet another opportunity for Google to get ahead of any competition on this, like they have before on other things.

"Don't want your stuff being stored on other people's hardware? Want to really control you information? Want to carry 250 GB+ of movies and music and not have to chew through limited wireless data or upgrade to a $80 a month plan to grab it from the cloud worryfree? Check this out! The Nexus 11. 4 mSDXC slots accomadating Sandisks newest 256 GB Class 10 cards!!"

That's an advert I'd like to wake up to.
[Nexus 9 General] rdelfin:
*Sigh* Say what you will. Just be ABSO-FU#%$@-LUTLY and completely certain that Google *does not* owe you one damn iota of anything.

The entitlement and the oblivious comments some people make thinking they're actually making sense never cease to amaze me.:silly:
[Nexus 9 General] aagii0715:
Awesome

I don't think so
[Nexus 9 General] bipoler:
I've gone from justifying the purchase, to deciding on canceling. Today is the last day. I think I'm just going to say forget it. In my phone I have a 32gb memory card when formated it's a little over 29.xxgb I don't sync my entire music library which is growing but the Playlist I do sync has me at like 13gb roughly have of my micro sd in my phone. While I want to convert and use a tablet. This locked memory and small amount of memory for $480 & 130 for the nice case just isn't worth it at THAT price point. Perhaps I can make the small amount of memory work but I shouldn't have to at that cost, it's all about principality. I'll keep my money until the right tablet comes out, I do like the hardware on the n9 which is making this a lust purchase over logical but then you realize having the money to spend doesn't mean you go spend it because you can. You know maturity, controlling impulse
[Nexus 9 General] TheBiles:
I paid $500 for my Nexus 10. This seems perfectly priced.

Sent from my XT1254
[Nexus 9 General] marctronixx:
IIRC. i paid over 900 dollars for my launch day moto xoom wifi only to which i still use (LTE upgradeable though and was months later).

530 ish dollars for this gadget is criminal...
[Nexus 9 General] tabuser:
Android Police's review of the Nexus 9 was interesting.

Here's a few quotes:

"Performance: It's unpredictable. The Nexus 9 is fast, but it's twitchy. Apps will randomly take longer to load than normal, longer than I would expect - it doesn't feel fully optimized. That, or only having two cores is causing issues."

Build quality: It does not feel like a $400 tablet should feel. Not only is it fairly heavy for its size, the plastic back seems to have the same issues the Nexus 5's did - it deforms under pressure, snaps, and creaks. It is not nice. Also, it's a finger oil magnet.

Design: I'm sorry, but in my subjective opinion, the Nexus 9 is not a pretty tablet. It is decidedly generic, and not in a cool, stealthy way. It's boring and drab. The press shots do it too much justice.

Price: All things considered, I find $400 ($480 for 32GB) hard to stomach for a 16GB tablet of this caliber. That's generation one iPad Air money.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/11/03/nexus-9-review-a-little-better-on-paper-than-in-practice/
[Nexus 9 General] MRobbo80:
Go and but it then, really not interested in your point of view. We will make our own mind up!
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
Aye +1
[Nexus 9 General] haydonxda:
I'm going with the "too expensive" sentiment.

I had been waiting for this tablet since the rumors began of the Nexus 10 replacement and was prepared to buy it from day one. The pricing, however, stopped me cold. Likewise another family member. I am Google's target market and they turned me off in no time.

I'm seeing an original iPad Air 32GB go for $100 USD less than the equivalent Nexus 9. The extra pixels at that screen size simply do not matter. The iPad is simply a better product. Fluid, responsive, unbeatable build quality, etc. Yeah, it's Apple which stinks but I only use the tablet to play games and it's superior for that. My Nexus 7 will fill in on the rare occasion when I need an Android device bigger than my phone.

I definitely don't want to risk something similar to the Nexus 5 GPS issues in a very expen$ive tablet.
[Nexus 9 General] tabuser:
Here is the closing quote from The Verge's just released review of the Nexus 9:

"But unfortunately, the Nexus 9 just isn’t as good as it needs to be. It’s priced as high or higher than Apple’s tablets, but doesn’t offer anything in terms of hardware or performance to sway someone from just purchasing an iPad instead. The Nexus 9 would make a killer $249 or $299 tablet, but at $399, even last year’s iPad Air is a better buy for the vast majority of people. And if you want something smaller than the iPad Air, last year’s iPad mini 2 undercuts the Nexus 9 by a full $100, while offering a better experience all around. It’s hard to recommend the Nexus 9 to anyone outside of diehard Android fans."

See full review here: http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/3/7148087/nexus-9-review
[Nexus 9 General] robertc88:
Why didn't they speak about the Mini 3 going for $399 that basically added nothing to the Mini 2?? :laugh:

I paid the price because this is something unique as far as I'm concerned, an android tablet with4:3 aspect ratio this size and this quality and a good UI.

I tried the S tablet. TW rears its ugly head and the color saturation is way overblown. As far as the latter, I like the 8.4" Pro better but TW is still an issue.

The LG skin on its 8.4" tablet wasn't to my liking either, nor was the display and it lagged. I think it costed $349 at the get go.
[Nexus 9 General] BamAlmighty:
The reviews are dismaying, but I really need a tablet that isn't Apple so I'm sticking with my order.
[Nexus 9 General] fignolin:
make your own mind up ? you've already made it even before testing it yourself.....you are a fanboy, totally blinded !

Ok, so now, we can read the reviews all over the place and they're not good. This tablet doesn't worth his high price but you will never admit it . The guys at The Verge and all those review sites must be retarded, if we believe what you say...

At $299 , this tablet would of been a good toy to get but not at this high price. Have fun , MRobbo80 !

At least now you will have someone else to flame while you wait for your tablet !
[Nexus 9 General] bipoler:
Just because I have the money doesn't mean I should spend excess of $600 for this mesothelioma mediocre tablet and folio
[Nexus 9 General] accordex:
I was on the fence a bit too earlier and almost bought the tab s 8.4.

Before going to the customer service counter at best buy to pickup the 9, I went to check out the tab s. Took me about 30 seconds to find horrible lag simply switching home screens and pulling down the status bar, going into settings etc.( after clearing apps).

My last Samsung was a gs3, and a couple of years later and a 8 core processor, with 3gb ram, it would seem nothing has changed.

The 9 ,so far has 0 hiccups. I'm happy.

Still wish it had qi charging, that is the main thing I'll miss coming from the 7.

Also, the 4:3 aspect ratio, while I feel I will get used to it, eventually, is just plain stupid. Apps get stretched a tad, videos have huge black bars, and I can just barely hold it with one hand. Why anyone would "prefer" this, is beyond me, but oh well. It is what it is. This screen size in a 16:9 would be perfect.

Just my 2 cent's. :)
[Nexus 9 General] mtva24:
Best buy will give you $50 towards the purchase + a $50 gift card if you trade in an old tablet... I traded in my nexus 7 (2012)
[Nexus 9 General] 05GT:
That's my exact setup. Loving them both.
[Nexus 9 General] bckrupps:
The shield tablet literally falls apart. They tried to pull a fast one on us with the nexus 9 like we all are on Peyote buttons. Steve wins again. Typed on my new iPad mini after a return
[Nexus 9 General] dianestory2:
What?? What does that mean??? haha
[Nexus 9 General] _Infamous_:
Its the verge they are apple lovers end of story

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I love my new nexus 9 its fast and have no complains so far.
[Nexus 9 General] aeppacher:
I freaking love the 4:3 ratio. Much more like reading a book ans having a piece of paper to use. Videos do have black bar but I dont mind too much.
[Nexus 9 General] ReiverBlade:
nah not really (not mentioning the N9 falling 7k behind my ST in 3Dmark, in fact it's even 1k under the MiPad and 5k under a normal ST score, and scoring only 1k more in Antutu even if i don't take Benchies too seriously), the Shield Tablet is still better ... even the 16gb wifi one, cheaper and not so weaker, 64bit hold no real meaning atm and the ST will get 5.0 this month if it goes as the rumor say plus the ST has a µSD slot which the N9, like all of the Nexus line, lack

i compared both tablet (N9 under 5.0 and ST under 4.4.2 stock root) and both feel smooth as butter and run everything top notch (tho the N9 heat up faster)

they have the same GPU but dual core 64bit is not "on par" with a quad A15 at the most you can expect 20% more per core if the app is 64bit optimized (which still do 240% versus 400%)

indeed the N9 is too expensive for what material it use (specially when you compare to the ST construction)

the 4:3 ratio is a drawback for me but for reading Ebooks or web it's quite good tho

also my ST have no WiFi issue even 200m outside of my house, no corner cracking no bug or hiccups, (not mentioning that if i had any problem nvidia would replace it without any question, as far as i have seen in other threads)
[Nexus 9 General] Fazeh:
On amazon the price dropped $20-30 on 16 and 32 gb. Contact amazon for a price difference if you ordered from them.