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[Teclast X98 Air 3G] finas:
I would test it but wife took the x98 from me and pimped it up with girls stuff. If I change anything on it she will put me to sleep in the coach.

So, I think no more X98 for me.

I will wait for the next generation of tablets with cherry trail on them. I hope Teclast can make one like the X10HD but with a cherry trail atom cpu on it, and maybe add a magnetic sensor for direction and why not, a better camera with flash and 7.4mm like the X98. :D I was really really about to buy one today when I saw the 323USD price with keyboard case included, but I think that this dual boot issue is still too hacked up and battery life and performance will for sure suffer with the higher resolution screen the X10HD has. So I will way a couple of months more. Cherry trail should be out around march ( or so they say ) .
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] ApteryxK:
Oww man, it's you the youtube guy ! :D
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
haa, he is famous now :)
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] smartchip:
Looking forward to see your review on this one. The processor is Z3735F so it might run a little slower and smaller 7000mAh battery, but 64gb will certainly help!

I'm also really interested to see how well the dual boot bios works. Apparently no restarting required. Also the orientation of the buttons/camera is the "right" way around (the Teclast's mirrored arrangement makes it hard to use an iPad Air case or screen protector).

If this works well, I might ask my supplier for an exchange.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Sh1m3oN:
hello to all, i've just riceived my teclast x98 air 3g C9J8, i've tried with Asphalt 8 on Android and appear a warning message about brightness but no freeze for now. Asphalt on Windows doesn't give to me any problem. I want try also a Benchmark and let you know ;)
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
please try 1080p test at least 6-7 times. and also please Real Racing 3
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] djeskoswe:
What does Cpu-z says about cpu speed ?

Can you try the games that owners of x98 does ?

Unity Benchmark

http://www.mediafire.com/download/fa...chEnhanced.apk

Alternative link for benchmark app :

http://www63.zippyshare.com/v/80289232/file.html

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Real Racing 3 (.apk file)

http://www.mediafire.com/download/x2...mes.r3_row.apk

Alternative link for the game apk

http://www63.zippyshare.com/v/3459349/file.html

Br Niklas
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] mnitstanley:
Also please install CPU temp app and switch on the temperature overlay. Please report about the temperatures also whenever you run those games/apps.

Mine freezes as soon as it touches 60.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
please dont just copy and paste the links, when they are too long then as you can see, they are giving errors...

the correct links are here :

Unity Benchmark

http://www.mediafire.com/download/faoerw8cx35ft88/com.Maniac.UBenchEnhanced.apk

Alternative link for benchmark app :

http://www63.zippyshare.com/v/80289232/file.html

================

Real Racing 3 (.apk file)

http://www.mediafire.com/download/x2rbg5hv7bvlwts/com.ea.games.r3_row.apk

Alternative link for the game apk

http://www63.zippyshare.com/v/3459349/file.html
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Hendrickson:
It's got the Z3736F so same as our air 3g and I think the battery is 8000mAH (But I have seen 6700mAH reported! :o) The battery worries me the most, I have found Onda batteries to be such rubbish, unstable battery meters and the batteries themselves just seems to run out so quick. The other issue is no HDMI output, while I don't always use it, it's nice to have that option.

But on the good side of things, I have found their eMMC they use to be fast and the touch screens good to. It's another Chinese tablet lottery!
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] djeskoswe:
sure , but the ones i tested worked before copy and paste !

Niklas
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] ImJamIN:
Please take a photos of your bios and if you can, take a software dumb so I can take a look at it and probably publish a universal bios.

Thanks
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] the_jako:
Hello everybody, I have a little problem trying to do the dual boot.

I start from Windows 8.1 then I installed the Dual Boot Bios (No problem).

I restart to the bios, power down the tablet and power up again and use the Windows 8.1 again (without reinstall anything) with 60hz. Everything perfect but... right now I cant install android because my tablet is not recognize by the PC I power off by pressing 10 seconds the power button. Then while its connected I power it up and shows the battery meter but the PC dont do anything so I cant use any program to flash android, any idea? I tried different cables and nothing... :(

What I'm doing wrong?

Thanks a lot!
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Hendrickson:
Haha yep, I wont have many more vids on the X98 Air 3G as i have done about all I can on this unit and filled most requests etc. I'll be switching to the X10HD 3G or the Onda V919 soon. But I guess the Air 3G will be in comparison videos against these models.

Has anyone seen the news? Teclast are going to build to make order core m tablets http://www.teclast.com/corem/. Crazy, they would be like $500 to over 800 ish, with the return and warranty issues etc I wouldn't risk it. Better of getting a Dell Venue 11 (7140) with a core M.

I have run some Path of Exile for a good 30 minutes and it didn't crash and freeze my whole tablet, so puzzled as to why it locked up on Diablo III. Do I have the 3d freeze issue or not ? :confused:
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
if it is only for one game, then dont worry about it. but if it pass unity benchmark test at 1080 at least 6-7 times and play RR3 long enough then you have a good piece IMO :good:
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] mirek190:
I updated rom for air 3g ( c7j8 ) to 3.1 - now is fully rooted and updated to 2.02 23.12.2014

Now is uploading to mega ....
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Petepe10:
This is the normal way, do not know about dualboot though: Power up (vol up down power press) until screen shows dnx mode, and then connect cable. Flash starts automatically (provided pc is ready to flash of course)
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] ApteryxK:
I really like the quadhd screen from the one you bought and didnt receive yet, if it's good quality , i will buy it for sure. :) The air 3g is 7.3mm, is it THAT good or just normal when it is in your hands ?
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
please can you check which eMMC is used in your tablet? on windows, you can use this software

CRYSTAL DISK MARK

http://sourceforge.jp/projects/crys...rystalDiskMark3_0_3b-en.exe/?use_mirror=jaist

Please do also a benchmark for us :good:

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7.3 mm thicknes is not correct. it is about 7.9mm-8mm, but still it gives you a nice feeling when you get in your hands, very solid and expensive feeling aswell
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Hendrickson:
Cool, looking forward to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgbCNeLoeK8 Path of Exile is MUCH more playable than Diablo 3 :)
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] mirek190:
Rom C8J7 updated to v3.1

Everything from v3.0 plus :

- fully rooted

- updated to 2.02 firmware

https://mega.co.nz/#!8s4j0DZS!G6d9FtH9iSPWYlhoFU_6BIl3USdb8PI6fojDtwprLnM

BTW - please let me know that everything works fine.

Tommorow I try to finish rom for c9j7 .
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] agunghost:
I just downloaded directly from MS app store, it's around 120Mb not 1.5Gb version. The result is no different with official benchmark score that has been listed in 3DMark.

Guys, I've got a question. Is there anybody who can manage to connect with portable external 2.5" harddisk?

Because mine is not working. Is it because of voltage shortage?

If that's the case, in order to access external storage other than flash drive, we do need external power.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] mnitstanley:
Thanks to [MENTION=1167021]Hendrickson[/MENTION] for this review .

I also downloaded the 3dmark appstore version and completed the 3d benchmark on windows. Surprisingly it passed in the second attempt. But it is RT version which is quite light weight.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] jasaero:
I can't seem to get it revived. The chip seems fine as I can erase verify empty and write new stuff and verify if matches the buffer bios I load...but still not life after flash. It's an Air II that had windows only and I have only found one bios file for that. Not sure if I need a buffer read off a working tablet rather than a standard bin from Teclast or what?? Seems to be the same no matter what file I flash. I kept the original buffer read from the chip before I erased also...but nothing seems to revive it.

What BIOS files are you guys using for the Air 3G?
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] mnitstanley:
[MENTION=1167021]Hendrickson[/MENTION] [MENTION=2198172]mirek190[/MENTION] [MENTION=281521]jcespi2005[/MENTION] [MENTION=3014815]SUMMERBREEZE[/MENTION]

X98 Air 3G Dual Boot is going on sale at a heavily discounted price of 190$ (with a 10$ off coupon on 8th Jan for fist 700 customers)

So I guess the X98 Air 3G 9.7inch models are gonna be permanently discontinued with no further manufacturing.

Reasons are 3-fold

Newest Model 1 -X10HD 3G 10.1 inch Dual Boot launched and in stock for sale

X98 Air 3G features + 10.1 inch 2560x1600 Retina 300 ppi screen + 64 GB storage(probably not BIWIN chip) + premium dock -8000mAh battery - no 3D games issue (:fingers-crossed:)

Priced at 285$

+

10$

Newest Model 2 - X16HD 3G 10.6 inch Dual boot launched and in stock for sale

X98 Air 3G features + 10.6 inch 1920x1080 208 ppi screen + 32 GB storage(probably not BIWIN chip) + premium dock -8000mAh battery - no 3D games issue (:fingers-crossed:)

Priced at 240$

And yet planning for even bigger and better tablets with new CPU. The Core-M tablets. Not launched yet.

Priced around regular laptop prices say 500$ - 700$ (as indicated by hendrickson)

Definitely signs of moving on and moving ahead. So when they have planned so much ahead, I optimistically believe that they must have resolved the 3D games issue for all newer models. :fingers-crossed:

New buyers, choose wisely :cool:
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] BigBoppa:
They must? Why?

In fact, that´s the main question. Waiting for Hendricksons review....

And please, test your otg-charge-hub with x10hd and maximum tf card capacity. In x98 you can use 128 gb tf card.

Thank you!
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] HDtracer:
Intel Manufacturing Flash Tools on Linux

Does anyone know if it is possible to install Flash Tools on a Linux laptop?

With it installed on my PC the flash tools USB drivers delete all my USB 3.0 drivers.

I am constantly having to reinstall one or the other sets of drivers, very frustrating.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] craigg123:
Received the below reply from EtoTalk. Im hoping this means i will receive a unit without a defective gpu.

"Dear Buyer,

Thanks for your information,

Because of the factory delay so that we still not received the new batch form the factory ,

Sorry for your inconvenience ,

According to the factory ,the batch estimate arrive the this week ,

When we received it ,we will arrange your shipment as soon as possible.

Thanks,

Lynn"
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Sh1m3oN:
Just made some of your requested test, no problem for now. I've run Unity benchmark four times without freeze and CPU temp after test isn't never more 63°C . Clock speed is 2.13ghz.

Next test: Real Racing and eMMC

;)
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] mnitstanley:
Congrats Buddy. Now please

Check for any available OTA update from Teclast Updater app.

BIOS version (use CPU-Z 32-bit in Windows) or click a picture after getting to BIOS with DEL key from USB keyboard (prefered because we will get to know what all settings are there in BIOS)

CPU-Z screenshot from Android(all pages)

Use CrystalMark and find out the Storage chip brand (BIWIN or something else)

Run 3Dmark (Playstore)

Play Real Racing 3 (PlayStore)

Play Riptide GP2 (Playstore)

Play Frontline Commando 2 (Playstore)

Play Asphalt 8 (Playstore)

The whole community shall be thankful to you for your selfless service :D

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I think it is a good sign. :fingers-crossed: Why did you choose that website ?

Free DHL shipping and Paypal. Not bad. :good:
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] the_jako:
Hello again!

I flashed Android with no more problems but at some point I lost the baseband on the tablet. Do you know where to find it and how to flash it?

Right now I cant use the 3G on Android :(

Thanks a lot!
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] zooster:
Guys, not to be pessimistic, but if his new x98 passes all the tests without freezes it doesn't mean necessary that C9J8 is immune. There are also several C9J7 without freezes, so it could be just a lucky unit. Different is the case if really all C9J8 don't suffer of freezes. It could be a nice beginning but we better need a solid statistic about C9J8.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Cozla:
The same bug as reported on rom v 3.0
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] ImJamIN:
Thanks for your cooperation.

Please take a snapshot and a software dumb of your bios so we can have a look inside.

For dumb your bios you can your fptw -d (windows version) or fpt -d (Android version).

This can make you a backup of your bios and make us a test to our tablet.

Thanks
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Sh1m3oN:
Tested RR3, Asphalt 8 and 3DMark (see the screen attached). No freeze only a warning about brightness. Token cpu-z screen from android and checked ota update (no update available).
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
you can get info about eMMC in bios aswell, in bios there is a tab that is showing the names of the devices on the mainboard etc.

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you are right.. as long as the same chipset and SOC used in these tablets, unfortunately there will be still smilar issues :(

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Paypal is OK but free DHL is not good at all, it means he will deffinately pay very high taxes and a lot of money for some document work etc etc..

better use NL Post.. It is a state post and even it stucks in custom, you pay only a little tax and get the tablet. (it was %23 in Poland, can be smaller in other countries, in Turkey %18 for example, please ask your seller to write a small amount on the box aswel, 49 USD, GIFT etc. etc.)
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] zooster:
Actually new SoC cherry trail is already shipping to manufacturers, according to Intel (http://anandtech.com/show/8831/intel-shipping-14nm-cherry-trail). Who knows, maybe teclast will surprise us releasing an updated device with cherry trail + 4gb ram + 64 gb flash [emoji1]
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] mirek190:
[/COLOR]

Very easy to tepair that bug - just in apex settings - home screen settings - thick tablet ui.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] craigg123:
Yes i did already check with them and they say that they mark all their items at low value and only a small percentage of people end up paying tax apparently.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
thats good but whatever they write on the box, if it ships via DHL, you pay a tax (small or big) but when it ships via a state post (chinese, singapore, sweden, netherland etc) then %90 you dont pay anything at all.. Netherlands Post is also fast, delivers in 10-12 days
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] jacfry:
I did some tests with RR3 outdoors and indoors. The "freezing" point was repeatedly 48'C while inside a building. Keeping the temperature below allowed a continous play. I just had to take a break with the screen off once a while. Outside the temp didn't exceed 31'C so there was no GPU problem at all.

Temperatures above were reported by CPU Temp overlay under Android dual boot C6J6. Outside temp was around 0'C and inside around 19'C
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] Hendrickson:
Cherry Trail will be great 16EU units on the GPU vs our 4 on the bay trail, it's a welcomed boost and I'm 99% sure by mid year we will see some retina tablets with the new atom + 2GB ram (4GB I hope!) I think if teclast start making a cherry trail Air 3G update they will sell hundreds of thousands of them.

With DHL ask the selle to declare the value as $75 and not the full price. I got stung with the full price and here in Spain its 21% tax plus a 15 euro paperwork fee. :o

Also Post NL took 22 days for me China to Spain, from the date of purchase to it arriving. So it's not that fast, but much faster than 4-5 weeks China Post.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] the_jako:
Hi again.

I have 2 problems. Can you help me??

- I dont have baseband on Android: dont know how to fix it

- Cant boot on dual boot mode: I reflash the bios a lot of times but I cant get the dualboot screen. The tablet starts on Android even if I boot pressing Vol+. Any idea?

Thanks a lot
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] xusso:
Hello everyone,

I would like to share my experience with my newly received X98 Air 3G dual boot (C9J7)

First of all, I had to pay customs tax (around € 40-) which I am not totally pleased about.

Everything looked ok at first. Rooted, removed the crap and fixed the playstore.

Installed some Asphalt and RR3 and tried to play them.

They took around 3 minutes of playtime average each until the tablet froze.

Apart from asking for a replacement, is there something I can do?

Will the Bios settings solution work, or the performance is badly hurt?

Thanks in advance!
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
so what is the conclusion? what is causing these freezes, if GPU is just fine? :cowboy:

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1) Why did you pay that much high tax? please tell us the procedure. Why 40 euro? how did they calculate it? Which shipping method did you chose?

2) The problem you have, unfortunately almost everyone has it right now, even in new batches (apart from some very lucky ones)

just contact with the seller and ask a big amount of partial refund
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] jasaero:
Not sure if you noticed my post earlier...but I am having no luck reviving my bricked Air II. I am pretty sure the flasher is flashing the chip properly as I can erase flash and then verify that the buffer matches the chip and try to boot with no luck. Still powers on as I have a multitester and can see voltage drop/raise when the power is cycled. I even tried to disconnect battery and let things drain for a bit before reconnecting power with no luck.

I have to assume some setting I changed wrote some parameter to the SOC that isn't allowing a boot....but I am unsure how to revive it....as all I did was try a few BIOS settings.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
yes if the seller declares a low value (for me it was 59 USD) then even it stucks in customs, you pay the tax for the declared price... better than nothing..

but as i said before, wirh state posts, it very rare stucks in the customs.. and for me with NL post to Poland took 10 days after the shipment(they shipped 3 days after i placed the order)
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] xusso:
1. Shipped from Banggood through DHL to Netherlands. The declared value was 60$, but I had to pay 47€ to be released ( VAT tax plus administrative costs).

A ripoff if you ask me...

2 what do you mean in "ask a big amount of partial refund" ?
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] djeskoswe:
Hi

What seller?

Br Niklas
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] SUMMERBREEZE:
i mean, the item is not as described, doesnt work properly and you cant play any 3D game,

so open a dispute, keep the tablet and ask refund for example 90-100 USD from the seller.

and the bold part, thats why i never advise DHL to anyone.. even it is low value declared, they just do their best to steal your money.. (with some extra stupid administrative buls.hit)

better wait 7-8 days more and use a STATE POST (NL Post, Singapore Post etc)
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] xusso:
Hi Niklas. Bought it through Banggood.com
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] mnitstanley:
All you guys who can receive packages via postal service are really lucky because it costs less for shipping and no customs duty most of the time.

Be it China, Singapore, HongKong, Swiss or NL post, once it crosses the destination country border, it is handled by the local postal office network.

And from here the delay and pain starts for those members from these 'unfortunate countries' where postal service is highly risky and unreliable.

High value packages and premium electronics like mobiles and tablets just disappears in this 'Bermuda triangle'. Package safety is a big issue.

The process of customs duty assessment, notification & payment is also weird which causes guaranteed delays and added frustration.

So I opted for courier company like DHL and FedeX.

In my country import Duty for Tablet PC is 18% of Assessed Value.

Customs maintain their own Assessed value list for all the popular items. So irrespective of declared value, customs always asses the value themselves, especially electronic items.

In my case the invoice value was 205 $ but Assessed value was 215 $ (approx. 5% higher and is was right). They must have goggled it and first result is Anna Fang store.

Handling and paperwork charges are flat 8$.

Under-value declaration leads to excess penalty, if you really believe in Uncle Murphy :silly:

Though such cases are rare. But clearance delay is common.

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On my research to purchase my first Tablet, I came across these sites.

I though it could be of some help to someone :angel:

[U]English[/U]

http://www.aliexpress.com/
http://www.tinydeal.com/
http://www.dealsprime.com/
http://www.geekbuying.com/
http://www.merimobiles.com/
http://www.addictedtoandroid.com/
http://www.dx.com/
http://www.banggood.com/
http://www.hongkongeek.com/
http://www.lightinthebox.com/
http://www.etotalk.com/
http://www.chinistore.com/
http://www.pandawill.com/
http://www.pompmall.com/
https://www.chinavasion.com/

[U]Chinese[/U]

http://www.taobao.com/
http://www.tmall.com/
http://www.jd.com/
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] mirek190:
I unpacked the kernel - I noticed all drivers are as modules ...I wonder if power configuration module has voltage table :).
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] ImJamIN:
That's would be great. And if you can add some other governor that's would be fantastic :thumbup:

[MENTION=3014815]SUMMERBREEZE[/MENTION]

Because if you share dual bios, then ALL tablets will be dual o.s.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] mnitstanley:
[MENTION=2198172]mirek190[/MENTION]

Just reminding you about a custom ROM if you need to really power-pack the ROM/kernel.
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] majkel_94:
I will buy new tablet if the Braswell (new name for Cherry Trail) will be much faster than Bay Trail and there will be new Teclast model with:

- fast 64GB eMMC

- 4GB dual channel

- 9,7" retina (not 16:10)

- docking keyboard to transform to notebook like ASUS ones (the best would be two options: normal thin keyboard only and the one with 500GB HDD and battery inside).

- active touchscreen for Samsung's like pens

- and other stuffs like microusb 3.0 and USB port in docking keyboard +additional port for charging (no need for special hub)

I know, the wishlist is very long :D But i will wait, my X98 Air 3G is still very good and cheap :D
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] mirek190:
Huh ? What so you mean ?

I can flash boot.img whenever I want .
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] PWMx:
This was also my experience. Stability was better with lower ambient temperature.

Then I improved the internal thermal conductivity (as reported earlier). After this stability greatly improved.

Now it has been almost flawless.

(There still is a very rare unstability. Maybe it is some other SW issue or then because additional heating due the cover accessory.)

My conclusion is that there is some issue with the thermal management - Throttling doesn't work properly.

(With proper throttling and power management it is stable whatever temperature - It would just run slower in hot...)

And who says those reported temperatures are even half accurate ? - And especially for GPU ?

(Wouldn't be the first time when on-chip temperature sensors are off .. because of SW or HW.

This would also explain why the throttling is not working properly ...)
[Teclast X98 Air 3G] xxLeoxx93:
Hey guys,

I bought a Teclast x98 Air II and I want to use it with windows.

Can someone tell me which bios I need, and if I can install the bios with a windows 8 PC?

Thanks!