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[Xperia Z3 General] acheron350:
Damn, even galaxy S4 got it haha. But what is killing me is not even 1 screenshot, nothing. Only nav keys so far. I am really hoping for a full material makeover
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
Quite. I hardly get any email, so any syncing was done lone before I took my phone off overnight charge. I have apps like Pocket, tweetcaster but I always have push/auto refresh disabled so I can do it manually when I have data/battery for it. I'm not doing anything differently to what I did on Kitkat and the battery life seems worse. I've just killed some apps and we'll see if it makes a difference over time but it looks like 48 hour battery life is over.

One thing that's odd is if you go settings/apps and then uninstall some, like Vine or Kobo books for example, even after a reboot, despite showing "not installed" they're still showing how much memory they are/were taking. And I can, on some "not installed" apps stick select them and press "force stop". How? Why? Does "not installed" actually means "disabled" here? I have the unbranded uk rom; perhaps you still can't uninstall some apps even on unbranded roms. Can someone try this and get back to me?
[Xperia Z3 General] O__VER:
I'm in the same boat as you. D6653 HK purchased from an NZ importer (Expert Infotech). I've been checking daily and it's frustrating that it is taking so long! Still, it's a generic firmware (not branded) so imagine it won't be long now... I don't think there is anything wrong, It's just an incredibly slow roll-out.
[Xperia Z3 General] warface:
I'm on the same rom, and have uninstalled Vine and Kobo.

Both are gone, and are nowhere to be seen in the App section of Settings.
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
Thanks. To be clear, you've looked in Settings/Apps then gone to the All tab and checked the huge list? (Sorting by size makes this easier)
[Xperia Z3 General] wusyc:
D6653 AU with 726, no close all button.
[Xperia Z3 General] vif81:
I guess we also must consider that LP is a major update (I remember that when my old Nexus S went from GB to ICS, the very first days were awful...) + LP introduced ART machine as a replacement for Dalvik. I must say that after a bad first week on LP, my battery life is back to normal.
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
Clearly it's early days; I'll see how it goes before reverting back to kitkat. The conversion to ART was the slow "upgrading" dialog which occurred during upgrade; that's done now. I'd use stamina if I thought I could configure it so IM type apps don't stop notifying me immediately and I was sure everything would be running normally when the screen was on.

Ok, after digging around for causes I noticed that my phone was awake solidly, for hours, overnight, but isn't awake during the day. This doesn't seem normal, and it doesn't seem to be accounted for by any of the apps reported battery usage. Perhaps the apps aren't using any power; they're just stopping the phone from sleeping properly. Is this a known problem with facebook/chrome/tweetcaster/hangouts/gReader/Messenger? I'll try some sort of wakelock detector but I'm not sure what you can do about it if it's a really popular high profile app such as facebook, for instance; it's not like there are any alternatives. (Sadly wakelock detector is no use on unrooted phones on lollipop)
[Xperia Z3 General] rashidramli:
Singapore d6653 singtel still no notification for lollipop.
[Xperia Z3 General] w. junior:
I updated my Z3 Dual and sometimes when I touch the screen this circle appears. The option Show touches is disabled. Someone else is having this problem?

https://youtu.be/-hwgnLxr0mQ
[Xperia Z3 General] revvo94:
Hi, I own a Z3 D6603 from november, after the lollipop update (I'm on 23.1.A.0.690) I've noticed a sensible drop in the animation frame rate. There is an update coming for solve this? I have a nexus 5 too and is much smooter than the Z3.
[Xperia Z3 General] warface:
Nothing there at all, mate.
[Xperia Z3 General] Jay794:
Just flashed from the French rom to the UK one, about 2 weeks after it was released in Europe. Global rollout that takes ages
[Xperia Z3 General] mariotme:
Settings > display > switch off glove mode
[Xperia Z3 General] Ultraman1966:
I've been running FR generic for just over 2 weeks, is it worth flashing? I've noticed the battery life has been a bit poor lately but it might be google services related.
[Xperia Z3 General] Jay794:
I can't comment on battery life yet, I have only had the rom for less than 12 hours
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
And you're on uk unbranded?

Settings/about phone/diagnostics/facts/customisation: 1288-5028 r5c

version: 23.1.a.0.726

You have the same?

I did put t-mobile on briefly, as i'm on ee, but didn't like the branding. I also tried nordic when that was first released but went back to the unbranded kitkat and did an ota to get lollipop. It's as if those apps are on a list of preinstalled apps and they're still actually there when i uninstall them. It makes no difference whether i uninstall from play store or settings/apps/all.

Perhaps I'll do a factory reset tonight....
[Xperia Z3 General] cowisland:
Yes, the speaker volume feels lower to me post the update. Now I can't hear the phone ring when I am in another room.

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I was getting unusually high CPU usage by the System app post the update, clearly that was not good for battery life. A full wipe fixed that, now the battery life is, as far as I can tell, at least as good as KK or better. I have not reinstalled all the apps post the wipe, so that could be a factor also.
[Xperia Z3 General] vRS Carl:
This is one of the things that bugs me about Android. I know going KK to Lolliflop is a big system change. But why should you need to do a factory reset for things to work properly? Surely if it's being offered as an OTA upgrade then that shouldn't be required? Or am I being too picky??
[Xperia Z3 General] TheTeslaCoil:
Do it you must, YODA would say. No questions asked.

Ok, to delete any leftovers from KK, so your phone will work at its best.Remember, it' s a major upgrade, not an update.
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
You shouldn't have to. Maybe I didn't but I don't intend doing this often so better to do it now and get it over with. The phone ran out of power at 18:15 today after coming off charge yesterday morning at 9am so that's about 33 hours; not terrible, but not great, and part of the problem is the fact the phone was apparantly awake for about 18 hours of that, so that's what I need to sort out. Don't want to have to use greenify or anything. On kitkat I used smart connect to put turn off sound/data/4g overnight when it was charging so it's possible I was masking the problem then (I have pretty much exactly the same apps installed). I never used to use google now on my S3 so will stop using that for a while too.

I might have to root my phone and use better battery stats or wakelock detector but don't want to have to do that either. It may just be that I need to let the phone "settle" for a few days! lol
[Xperia Z3 General] TheTeslaCoil:
Root is the way. And unlocked bootloader.
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
Root is imminent. But I wasn't aware there was a fix for the "you'll lose DRM content if you unlock the bootloader" problem yet?
[Xperia Z3 General] TheTeslaCoil:
At least you can backup your TA partition.

And DRM = PLACEBO
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
Well, the factory reset has fixed that odd problem with apps being uninstalled and yet not uninstalled! lol! I'm going to run without encryption, google fit, google now and a few other things and see if the phone has any problems sleeping before doing anything more drastic like rooting. (Is there a way of rooting without unlocking the bootloader though?)
[Xperia Z3 General] TheTeslaCoil:
Yes, but only if you downgrade.
[Xperia Z3 General] iKlutz:
Another lollipop woe. What happened to the black personalisation theme? Was it racist? But there's still a white theme! I'm so confused ?
[Xperia Z3 General] Ultraman1966:
I'm still on generic FR which is .690, does anyone know what the difference is in the latest version? Which bugs have been quashed?
[Xperia Z3 General] TheTeslaCoil:
There is a black wallpaper.
[Xperia Z3 General] hzr34:
Please turn off glove mod in screen settings.
[Xperia Z3 General] Jay794:
Ok so after 12 hours of using a UK rom I got from Xperifirm, UK Customised, I noticed that the pull down quick settings menu doesn't work at all, also on the French rom I was able to double tap lock screen notifications to open them, again this doesn't seem to work on this rom. Gonna try and restore through PC Companion

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If you lose DRM the camera becomes ****ty, some people can live with that but Video Unlimited also dies, well at least it did on my Z1
[Xperia Z3 General] TheTeslaCoil:
PLACEBO
[Xperia Z3 General] crazymister:
No it is not [MENTION=6593866]TheTeslaCoil[/MENTION], those functions really get limited. But there is a workaround for that though. But x-reality, xloud, camera's superior auto etc all are being limited by removing drm. This has already been proven multiple times and is also being acknowledged by Sony.
[Xperia Z3 General] TheTeslaCoil:
There is a way to restore DRM keys.

There is a tutorial on internet.
[Xperia Z3 General] crazymister:
That's what i said, there's a workaround for that. But this still doesn't make it placebo.

Drm doesn't actually get restored by the way, unless you backed up your drm keys with TA backup, only the functions get restored

And you're right, there are multiple tutorials for that.
[Xperia Z3 General] Space_pilot:
If you realy need that button - just install the app from chainfire - called "Recently".
[Xperia Z3 General] vRS Carl:
Do you need root for that?
[Xperia Z3 General] freddy1991:
Yup

You need root.

Proof here.
[Xperia Z3 General] Space_pilot:
Jawohl! ;)

Err.
[Xperia Z3 General] Jay794:
So after restoring through PC Companion it seems to have fixed the unresponsive notification issue I was having
[Xperia Z3 General] borgez:
Amazing Battery Life on Lollipop

Hi guys,

I want to share with you my amazing experience with the newer lollipop version for our xperia Z3.

I regularly check my battery stats, but most important is check the screen on time, is the most valuable insight for battery life IMO.

with the 4.4.4 I get 3H Screen on time with 50%.. it's normal get around 6H, 6H20 in 100% (I never let my phone I never let my phone go below 15% / 20%) it was great because in my old phone (galaxy s3) I only get 2H30, 2H45 SOT.

But now with lollipop, I think my battery would be worse.. because of the new animations etc.. but I was wrong, it's even better !!! SONY definitely did an amazing job

with 50% now I can get ONE more hour Screen On Time! And I don't use STAMINA mode... and now think if I used it .... check the Screen Shots
[Xperia Z3 General] TheTeslaCoil:
SONY did a good job with Z3.
[Xperia Z3 General] kurosawa79:
It's a fantastic phone and a great L release by Sony. Lot's of people here like to complain but I was blown away by battery life coming from a M7 and N5. Last night I ended the day with 2 days no charge and 8 hours SOT with moderate to heavy use, no Stamina AND 10% juice still left when I plugged in. Granted I'm using Greenify with Xposed but all my messenger apps (3) are pushing through GCM and two Goggle accounts on free sync. To think I wouldve never come across this phone as I bought it actually for someone else but they didnt like it so I kept it. Hands down the best android phone I've ever had and Ive been on Android since Moto Milestone :good:
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
Yes, that Milestone was a classic. Never owned one, but those Droid commercials pulled me into Android from my aging Nokia 5800.
[Xperia Z3 General] iKlutz:
This doesn't prove lollipop battery life is better, anybody rating battery life on lollipop should be testing 100% stock before posting results that claim lollipop has better battery life. Heck I could go as far as to say installing greenify and tweaking ANY devices performance and limits will improve battery life.

I myself have noticed a significant change since coming from KK stock to LP stock (non root), standby and SOT time is no where near as good. I used to get 1hr SOT with 89-90% battery life remaining, now I get 1 hr SOT with 80% ish battery remaining, that's a significant difference. I have all the same apps installed and I am using it the same way. Been using LP since Monday last week.
[Xperia Z3 General] nikhilpai:
Did a factory reset a couple of days ago.

All issues resolved. No more overheating. No more excessive battery drain. Super smooth performance. :good:
[Xperia Z3 General] Roger117:
I'm getting pretty poor battery performance at the moment, it seems like my phone is awake all the time. I've tried restarting, and nothing has changed. Should I factory reset the phone? Its the 4th full charge on Lollipop.
[Xperia Z3 General] TheTeslaCoil:
Doba factory reset.
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
As part of trying to get the best out of my z3's battery life i leave stamina mode enabled permanently and whitelisted some IM apps and email. This works fine except the notification led doesn't flash after a message is received (it's received correctly; phone vibrates and screen lights up). Does it really take that much power to flash an led every second or so? Is there some way of enabling the led in this scenario?
[Xperia Z3 General] CouldntThinkOfAUsername:
Is the memory leak an issue still? Has anyone used the phone for a few week's without turning it off?
[Xperia Z3 General] kurosawa79:
Can't say I have done a week but normally reboot every 2 days. Haven't noticed it that time period but really who doesn't reboot in a few (few as in assuming you mean 3 or more) weeks???

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As per my post I said I'm coming from N5 and M7 so not Sony KK so not going to dispute your claim battery is worse. As for greenifying any device and getting what I've got out of the Z3 I'd say there aren't many out there. With similar setup on N5 and M7 you'd be lucky to get 4hr SOT and 16 hrs unplugged and not near 9 and 48 hrs unplugged.
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
I never intentionally reboot unless I'm troubleshooting something (or it runs out of battery so it's essentially rebooting when it's next charging).

Let me turn that question around; if your phone is working normally why would you bother to reboot it?
[Xperia Z3 General] kurosawa79:
Because I've always used xposed I reboot when installing or upgrading modules. I also nandroid backup at least once a week. Plus I upgraded and switched between roms recently from. 690 to 726. Or frequently, like you, I run out of battery.
[Xperia Z3 General] CouldntThinkOfAUsername:
Well 2 days is hardly a long enough time for memory leak to start showing itself. I don't reboot as I've never had to and shouldn't have to, maybe a few times a year when battery dies or new update on any device but LP 5.0.2 was horrible on my N7. I miss LP but I'm not willing to reboot every other day like I had to on my N7.
[Xperia Z3 General] TheTeslaCoil:
When you install a mod, you reboot. Install an Xposed module, reboot.

So...
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
This Xposed thing certainly sounds like a pain in the bottom!
[Xperia Z3 General] kurosawa79:
Well given that I don't recall anyone on here complaining about memory leaks on the z3 I'd say you're safe to go ahead and try it out. I'm sure the memory leak could still be there but does rebooting once every week or so really demand that much from you that you'd avoid LP altogether? Rebooting a few times a year sounds insane. Would you reboot your PC only few times a year? It's amazing your phone doesn't slow to a crawl.

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Not everyone uses xposed...especially as its meant to be unstable in LP.
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
When you say "PC" you must mean "windows PC" because most other operating systems are designed to not need to be rebooted. I never reboot my linux machines/VMs unless I have to (which isn't very often).
[Xperia Z3 General] TheTeslaCoil:
Shut down and restart it again at a later time it is pretty much the same.
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
Sure, but that doesn't apply to the servers I never shut down, nor the VM guests which run on hosts I shut down.
[Xperia Z3 General] vRS Carl:
Well battery life seems fine for me as can be seen by these stats. Had I not had a lot of time without a signal I think I'd be around the 65% battery still.

Phone is completely stock with official lollipop 5.0.2 (.726).

No stamina mode or anything like that. The only app that could be contributing is Lux. Otherwise all is as the phone comes.
[Xperia Z3 General] cem_jimmy:
23.1.A.0.740 fw new cer... For z3 and z2
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
That'll be another 5 months then... unless perhaps it's a tiny little region-agnostic bug fix.
[Xperia Z3 General] undercover:
If memory leak manifests itself by phone hanging and rebooting itself or forcing me to reboot it manually, then yeah, it is present. Never experienced this on Kitkat, on LP it's every 5-6 days.
[Xperia Z3 General] monoke:
Here's a side by side apps opening speed comparison between kk and lp for those that are curious. Looks like my suspicions pertaining to improved speed are somewhat met and that it's all a matter of perception. Fancy new animations can do that I guess.

Think I'll hold off till 5.1 or later if they ever will be coming lol. Kk's just fine for now.

https://youtu.be/hyR1VV3dZvU
[Xperia Z3 General] beni8978:
I don't know why sony is slow at opening apps. I compared my z2 with the One m8 and the M8 crushes it at every single app.

That can be fixed with a update but I don't know why sony is so behind.

Even with ART on lollipop it's slow.

I saw some videos of the Z4 and saw that it haves the same problem

Because of this I might consider changing to other manufacturers like HTC or even Samsung(s6) even do I like Sony so much

????
[Xperia Z3 General] TheTeslaCoil:
And your point is?
[Xperia Z3 General] CouldntThinkOfAUsername:
Is not slow at opening apps, I had a M8 but don't see the difference. Good luck with your M9 or S6, you'll spend most of your time in the respectful thread complaining about more issues :p
[Xperia Z3 General] vRS Carl:
I dumped my M9 for the Z3. I had an M8 and loved it. Upgraded to the M9 and couldn't live with the battery, heat and camera issues. Yes they will get better with updates and HTC update the phones very quick compared to Sony. But currently it appears they rushed the M9 out.
[Xperia Z3 General] beni8978:
My point is I love Sony and its waterproofness but dissapointed with some minor things that can make the phone so much better.
[Xperia Z3 General] TheTeslaCoil:
True, but no phone is perfect.
[Xperia Z3 General] beni8978:
That's an issue old from the Xperia Z days. My old xperia z had the same chipset like the nexus 4 and the nexus 4 beated it too..
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
I wanted the M9 too but the S810 throttles much more heavily than the S801. To top it off battery size is not much bigger. Even the Z4 will be 2930 mAh..... The Z3 will probably be a better device overall till the S820 based phones release. As apparently the 820 in prelim tests runs cooler than even the S801 under load.
[Xperia Z3 General] bradleysmith:
Reverted to 4.4.4. 5.02 is pretty good but I missed the themes, disappearing walkman widget on lock screen and generally lollipop just looks like arse. Hate the super simplified icons. Kitkat is just fine anyway. Also, things like the location based smart unlock are unreliable at best.
[Xperia Z3 General] monoke:
Good decision. Latest doesn't always mean greatest. I too prefer kk sleek black pro look compared to lp huge crayola title bars. Speed is the same to non negligible really. Only biggie for me is app to SD but even that is half assed if you can't move gigantic games to it.

For those that missed it.

https://youtu.be/hyR1VV3dZvU
[Xperia Z3 General] TheTeslaCoil:
Latest? hahaha

What latest?

Lollipop is a major upgrade, not an update.

What good decision? LOL
[Xperia Z3 General] Huey85:
How'd you remove the favorite bar from the recents screen?
[Xperia Z3 General] boober78:
I would call it quite good battery life to be honest. BT all the time on.
[Xperia Z3 General] jemeljsh:
Can I revert back to kitkat from lollipop through flashtool ? I am currently on 23.1.A.0.726 lollipop, but I want to revert back to last stable version of kitkat. Z3 (D6603).

Where I can find different versions/different regions version (like Baltic, German, Russian, etc) of the last version of kitkat (23.0.1.A.5.77) ?
[Xperia Z3 General] unmaskedfalesh:
Of course you can..

just get it from xperifirm...
[Xperia Z3 General] jemeljsh:
Thanks. Will try 23.0.A.2.93 GLobal. If i remember correctly 23.0.A.2.93 was the best battery in respect of battery life.
[Xperia Z3 General] unmaskedfalesh:
no problem ..

but i would suggest you to flash the firmware of your region since it will be optimized for your device better...and yes .93 was better in terms of sound also..in .77 they kinda ruined the audio output via speakers..in my usage i found battery kinda good in .77..btw i am running lollipop right now and battery is kinda good..
[Xperia Z3 General] jemeljsh:
I also remember that .93 had really good 4G reception. I was always constantly [MENTION=366900]full[/MENTION] 4bars of signal strength with .77 and now lollipop 4G reception is between 3bars and 4bars. Rarely its constantly [MENTION=3089969]4bar[/MENTION]s although the carrier is the same and the locations where I am are also the same.
[Xperia Z3 General] bradleysmith:
The upgrade took away far more than it gave, for my use anyway, hence going back to a previous version. Everyone else please enjoy Lollipop if you like it.
[Xperia Z3 General] unmaskedfalesh:
Yeah..lets hope future update will get those back..so that..even you can enjoy latest release...:thumbup::thumbup:
[Xperia Z3 General] O__VER:
Still waiting on Lollipop for my Hong Kong Generic Z3. This is getting ridiculous... what's the hold up with the HK firmware? Are there any other generic firmwares still waiting on the update?
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
Can anyone offer a technical explanation for how a software change can affect the strength of the signal received by the phone? It sounds absurd.
[Xperia Z3 General] TheTeslaCoil:
Not absurd at all.

It' s about how the SS is reported by SW.

And a software update can mess with the radio signal.

SS - SignalStrenght

SW - StringWriter
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
How it's reported obviously makes no difference to the reception, which is what some people have been complaining about.

And you're offered no technical details about how it would "mess with the radio signal" so I'm no better off now than I was a few moments ago.
[Xperia Z3 General] kurosawa79:
The 6653 Hk generic is the only one outstanding as far as I can tell. Makes no sense...
[Xperia Z3 General] Ultraman1966:
I'm on FR generic and the battery life just took a dive today in 16 hours it has used up 52% power with only 46min SoT and no gaming. This time it thinks WhatsApp used up 2 hours of awake time but I'm not so sure. Lollipop is most definitely not what they made it out to be with respect to battery life.
[Xperia Z3 General] TheTeslaCoil:
Yeah, L eats much buttery.
[Xperia Z3 General] browngeek:
Very strange, the 6633 HK version is already out. BTW the 6653 HK version (either KK or LP) does it have volte?
[Xperia Z3 General] ladelfm:
I can confirm that performing a factory reset has fixed my lollipop battery issue, everything is basically back to normal for me. Used to be running out of battery by the end of the day on upgraded lollipop but after the factory reset I'm at 25-30% by the end of the day. Also speeds it up a tiny bit. Worth the hassle for anyone considering it.