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[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
I'm curious; what made you decide to quote those two large images rather than simply editing them out of your reply?
[Xperia Z3 General] corallus:
Apologies, using tapatalk so image isn't that big.

Edited out.
[Xperia Z3 General] Cryssie:
This topic is just the best thing ever! Seriously! :D

I performed a software repair on my phone because some corrupt files that caused issues, but I noticed after that I am stuck on an older version of What's New (ghehe, the irony!) All the update options keep telling me that I have the most recent version, which I do not.

So... if I have to hazard a guess, I'd say Sony is reserving some server space and prepping to push the update out to us.
[Xperia Z3 General] jonmorris:
The Z4 isn't out until Q3. So Lollipop will be on the Z3 and others long before then.

Blame Google for all the problems with 5.0, forcing two updates in a relatively short time to fix issues. It affected everyone, and I only got Lollipop a few weeks ago on the Nexus 7 LTE!
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
True, more Google's fault, OEMs have to work on those faults or risk the ire of their customers.

Looks like so far only Samsung managed to fix it up to the point where its better than KiKat in tests, Performance/Battery life wise. The M8 is better in some aspects worse in others on 5.0 and the LG G3 and Nexus 5 apparently are worse overall in battery life in various tests.

So overall better for Sony to get a good release like Samsung did for the GS5.
[Xperia Z3 General] Geminiu:
I thnik that update should be ready really soon, today i installed new test version again and for now its working perfect, at previous version i had problems with proximity switch...
[Xperia Z3 General] jsscx:
wait...u mean u have test builds?
[Xperia Z3 General] Geminiu:
And i am not the only one...
[Xperia Z3 General] unmaskedfalesh:
Well then maybe atleast u can tell us if those screenshots viral online are true or not???
[Xperia Z3 General] King p1n:
Hes testing lollipop
[Xperia Z3 General] Geminiu:
Sorry but i am not authorized to leak that kind of information... Like i said, i think it should be ready soon and you ll check it by yourself...
[Xperia Z3 General] dani010:
Soon means this month or next month ?
[Xperia Z3 General] realfelix:
That word. "soon". Jesus Christ.
[Xperia Z3 General] jonmorris:
I don't disbelieve that you may have an early build but if you can't give information then surely you're bound by an NDA which means you can't even say you've got it in the first place?!
[Xperia Z3 General] Geminiu:
This info is known for some time now, its clear that Lollipop will be released and its not secret... Enough said for now...

http://xdaforums.com/z3/general/hello-lollipop-t2969599
[Xperia Z3 General] dinaz92:
It isnt a problem to wait few week. Its a question of respect. If sony told that FEBRUARY, then fulfill the promise please. They have 4 days left
[Xperia Z3 General] King p1n:
He's not allowed to say...

Seems to me theyre still testing

Also not all NDAs restrict you from saying your involved tbh.
[Xperia Z3 General] eskamhl:
Here @ Sonyxperiait says that the update should ( :confused: ) come in march https://twitter.com/Sonyxperiait/status/569931054410280960
[Xperia Z3 General] ncthanhkr21:
Lollipop will probably come tomorrow , because Sony usually rolls out updates on Wednesday and tomorrow is the last Wednesday of February. If not, maybe next week...

I don't put high expectation of this update anymore, after looking at those leaked screenies.
[Xperia Z3 General] jonmorris:
Perhaps, although I've never signed one that allowed it. Indeed plenty of NDAs in force ahead of MWC and I don't see any mentions from those people I know have signed them.

(Damn, not sure I should have even said that!!)
[Xperia Z3 General] King p1n:
MWC Ndas would be a lot stricter I guess.

I wouldn't expect to see people openly discuss it, to avoid people nagging them regarding it and out of respect and to avoid accidentally breaking it.

Who knows
[Xperia Z3 General] unmaskedfalesh:
Oh okhay...
[Xperia Z3 General] bergoulle:
I believe those people are the social media support : (Sony chat support, twitter, Facebook, ..) They act like "Bots" :) , not supposed to think .
[Xperia Z3 General] dinaz92:
Yeah, it easier to say March, cuz its 10000%. Those twitter guys are just press people.
[Xperia Z3 General] cem_jimmy:
hey guys I need to ask somethink I want to root my xperia z3 if I root my device am I gonna lose drm keys or am I gonna have a insue on kamera or x realty
[Xperia Z3 General] Rajeev:
Drm keys will lost only if u unlock ur bootloader.. Rooting a locked bootloader will not brake drm keys..
[Xperia Z3 General] cem_jimmy:
I couldnt find anythink about locked bl root for xperia z3 d6603 can u help me pls
[Xperia Z3 General] boober78:
Really? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3017056

[Guide]{Root}{Recovery} How to Root and install Recovery on Locked BL for NOOBS
[Xperia Z3 General] tseyksuli:
Custom roms dont work on locked bootloader xD so it needs you to unlock bootloader to flash custom room like Android 5.0 Lollipop or so, only other rooms that can be flashed in LB are more like edited stock roms.
[Xperia Z3 General] G-FACE:
^Come on...no one have asked or told the opposite, so unneeded post. This thread is for the coming lollipop update.
[Xperia Z3 General] cem_jimmy:
I dont need a custom rom and also some roms can work wıth lb

I just wanted to chage that shıt voıce ın the walkman ıt was very bad my frıend also has a z3 but we open same song mıne was not good and next to other phone was lıke xperıa z ı dont know why ıts happın but now ı ınstall sound mod so now perfect thank you for helpıng me
[Xperia Z3 General] caqo71:
[On topic]

let's wait for the certification PTCRB of the 28.x.x.x.x lollipop update rom, and then in a week it will be available.
[Xperia Z3 General] slim207rc:
The 28.X.X was for the apparent Z4, Z3 will have 23.1.X.X etc
[Xperia Z3 General] yacloo:
build number is fake probably they do not skip 24.x/25.x/26.x/27.x builds

z4 builds may start with 24.x
[Xperia Z3 General] G-FACE:
Not necessary to get ptcrb certification. Not all versions are certified there.
[Xperia Z3 General] realfelix:
This thread is more alive than the rest in this section:D:D

I really won't be surprised if it was really delayed until march or even later, Sony is known for taking up to 6 months to update a phone.

Anyways, I don't even care that much about it anymore, won't download it anyway if it looks like on the screenshots.
[Xperia Z3 General] G-FACE:
I can bet that not later than few weeks and you'll be updating to lollipop.
[Xperia Z3 General] undercover:
Bet on what?
[Xperia Z3 General] realfelix:
Lets bet on his Z3 ?
[Xperia Z3 General] undercover:
Nah, I'm expecting "I'll eat my hat if I'm wrong".. ;)
[Xperia Z3 General] boober78:
He asked about rooting the device. Not unlocking bootloader.
[Xperia Z3 General] caqo71:
oh, I misstyped, its, 23.1.x.x.x. According to de guy that is testing lollipop for Sony.
[Xperia Z3 General] freddy1991:
After all, I think we will have to wait until next month as Z4 tablet announcement is imminent, specifically on 3rd March and perhaps Xperia Z4 too will be announced.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/02/24/sony-outs-xperia-z4-tablet-with-2k-screen/
[Xperia Z3 General] session20:
http://www.androidauthority.com/sonys-lollipop-build-may-just-spotted-leaked-shots-legit-589329/

Looking at the screenshots I do not believe its sony work. However, what are your thoughts about the screens that were released recently.

Above link is about copy pasted UI which is said to br upcoming sony android 5.0 update.
[Xperia Z3 General] realfelix:
Thats the third post about those Screenshots.
[Xperia Z3 General] bioan:
I think that is the way our update will look. It looks close to stock Lollipop.
[Xperia Z3 General] bhavei:
The thing with sony is they tend to delay updates, same as what they did when i owned an r800i Xperia Play, after months of wait they backed out and cancelled the ICS for Xperia play.

But this is Z3 so we'll definitely get Android L, but it'll be delayed... Surely Delayed.
[Xperia Z3 General] King p1n:
Whats hard to believe its Sony?...
[Xperia Z3 General] iTayGNR:
Honestly, I hope that the screenshots are fake. Why?

Because I hoped for clean design. Material Design. Which have material design principles.

In the screenshots, the soft icons in the navbar don't horizontally centered, the Settings icons looks like Ice cream Sandwich icons, etc.

Actually, if the screenshot are real, I would probably install Cyanogenmod.
[Xperia Z3 General] session20:
So, we should not talk related to lollipop update in this thread.
[Xperia Z3 General] slim207rc:
Sure, but the same subject 20 times over ain't really interesting!
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
What's interesting is subjective. You've posted 2 meta-posts about the posts. That doesn't interest me at all but I wouldn't wish to prevent you from doing so because other people might find your attempts to control this thread thrilling.

It's likely that sony decided the cost of delaying the release of lollipop until 5.0.2 could be integrated was a lot smaller than releasing multiple versions. Despite all the nonsense here about sony letting people down by delaying the release of lollipop, they couldn't care less as it doesn't affect sales. I'm sure if someone pointed this thread (and similar discussions) to sony they'd find it hilarious! They said early 2015, and unless the release slips to july that's what's going to happen.
[Xperia Z3 General] micr0g:
As i was always been a nexus user i really like the new sony's near stock design!

I hope it will be like this with sony's extra features.
[Xperia Z3 General] kernald:
While I globaly agree with you, they also said "next month" in January. I don't expect it to be released in February and I'm totaly fine with that, but they said it.
[Xperia Z3 General] goTouch:
This thread is really funny. People believe what they want to believe.

But this is a real world. Sony is not in good shape. Actuality, it is bleeding. A company that does not know if they sell or not its mobile division, a company that is planning to dismiss more than 2000 employees, is not good at all. How bad it is? I think bad enough to change any road map they said before. Let's face it.

But I still think they are going to fulfill the "early 2015". And it means we are going to see lollipop in March.

But it is going to be funny to see people on the last day of this month saying: guys it is 22:00 we still have two hours. Lollipop is coming.

Let's pray to see Sony in good shape again.
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
When they said "from next month" they just meant it wouldn't be any earlier. They've probably found problems during testing, and/or if the rumours are true, they wanted to incorporate 5.0.2. There's no reason not to. Faults cost them money; people whining about having to wait a few extra weeks are just an amusing but meaningless distraction nobody takes seriously. It'll be ready when it's ready. A lot of companies don't give hard and fast dates for exactly this reason.
[Xperia Z3 General] slim207rc:
Firstly, what the heck are you talking about? ?

Secondly,.. Nah man just go your ways??
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
Which words are you having difficulty understanding?
[Xperia Z3 General] yoorie016:
Just sitting here eating popcorn while watching you guys argue about a update that will take more months to implement. (first on z3 and so on)
[Xperia Z3 General] slim207rc:
Yours ?
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
You're in good company - 127,571 views of this thread and counting!
[Xperia Z3 General] acheron350:
aaaaand 2 year old M7 just got lollipop :laugh:
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
The US education system certainly appears to be in poor shape, doesn't it? I'll try and stick to words you'll be sure to understand!
[Xperia Z3 General] slim207rc:
You keep trying then?
[Xperia Z3 General] krugu:
incredibly true! :rolleyes:
[Xperia Z3 General] bokbacken:
And some of the M8:s on this thread seem to be of the same age ;)
[Xperia Z3 General] Playdough96:
My Xperia Lounge just got an update with a new look. Clearly it can't be too long until Lollipop drops..
[Xperia Z3 General] cem_jimmy:
Dont thınk so ıts gonna release ın ın 20 days ı thınk
[Xperia Z3 General] Jecmenn:
I just leave this here.

Xperia lounge 3.0.0
[Xperia Z3 General] cem_jimmy:
Ok but ıts not mean sony wıll release the the update every day they chane the app... But stıll no lolıpop after mwc maybe tehy wıll release maybe after z4 tablet who knows
[Xperia Z3 General] gimbu:
We will see for 4 days. Xperia is very good phone but wh3n we talking about themes this case is very poor. Standard theme and wallpapers are very boring
[Xperia Z3 General] Rajeev:
Don't worry. We have custom themes and themers... ;)
[Xperia Z3 General] solidd_swa:
Remote play just got updated with 5.0 support
[Xperia Z3 General] Nathan-NL:
Two days left of February...
[Xperia Z3 General] mylove2004tc:
wait for a long time to up android L. Sony so slowly.

i hope Z3 up to 5.1 it amazing for member use Z3 ^^.
[Xperia Z3 General] realfelix:
Nice england ?

Nah but dont put your hopes high for Android 5.1 soon.
[Xperia Z3 General] cem_jimmy:
not gonna release before mwc :D where is my lolipop sonyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ahahahahaahah
[Xperia Z3 General] shtepsel:
I'm getting really pissed. Yesterday I read a story how HTC's M7 ( the flagship from 2013) is getting 5.0.2 right now. And we here with Sony's latest and greatest are stillllll waiting and begging for Android 5, while other OEMs are updating mid-range models.

If this continues with the next updates I'm selling the Z3

Only excuse I would except is an update to 5.1, otherwise this is a massive fail for Sony

Shame on Sony
[Xperia Z3 General] WujekT:
I think you can sell it right now, because slow updates of major versions are typical for Sony. If you except fast updates and this is important for you, Motorola or Nexus are right choices.
[Xperia Z3 General] caqo71:
I'm too waiting ansiously for LP, but I think that when Lp comes to Z3, this thread will change to a "Xperia Z3 lollipop bugs"
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
Nice irony!
[Xperia Z3 General] DonSebbo:
Maybe they try to use the new camera api's to make an awesome camera app? We will see :)
[Xperia Z3 General] caqo71:
today, I just got a Xperia M2, low profile phone (I have a Z3), but I noticed quickly, that the preview of the cammera is so fluid, not as the Z3. hope that LP bring a new camera preview.

---------- Post added at 07:24 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:07 AM ----------

sony is like they got working on 5.0, then, google released 5.0.1, so Sony stoped at5.0 and started to work on 5.0.1, then google released 5.0.2, and then sony stoped develop on 5.0.1 and start working on 5.0.2... so now that google release 5.1... sony decide to work on 5.1, but that will be on march.... and so on
[Xperia Z3 General] krugu:
---------- Post added at 07:24 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:07 AM ----------

[/COLOR]sony is like they got working on 5.0, then, google released 5.0.1, so Sony stoped at5.0 and started to work on 5.0.1, then google released 5.0.2, and then sony stoped develop on 5.0.1 and start working on 5.0.2... so now that google release 5.1... sony decide to work on 5.1, but that will be on march.... and so on[/QUOTE]

If Google release 5.2 Sony will stop again?? ?
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
We're about to find out..

http://www.christiantoday.com/artic...n.nexus.5.for.the.all.new.5.2.build/48629.htm
[Xperia Z3 General] G-FACE:
Don't get pissed. Sony's 5.0.2 will beat HTC's 5.0.2 ;)

It will be the BEST among all :D
[Xperia Z3 General] unmaskedfalesh:
Ha ha ha...lets hope so...
[Xperia Z3 General] apeiron6:
And HTC get 5.2 and Sony will be behind again with older software. This thread is meaningless

Sent fra min D6603 via Tapatalk
[Xperia Z3 General] realfelix:
??? true that.

But ah well, I dont think that it will come this month...so lets just hope for mid march.
[Xperia Z3 General] shtepsel:
Let's nope so.

The other thing is that late last year Sony told us that we would have 5.0 early next year. Early next year came and there was no update, so Sony said don't worry, by the end of February the update is going to be out. And guess what, with only 2 days from February remaining we still do not have the update.

And by the way customer service suck, yesterday I had a chat with them and they told me that they are working hard and that the Z3 and Z2 will be the first xperias to get the update... Very useful information
[Xperia Z3 General] Raqun:
The remote play app has just been updated to support lollipop, so that's at least encouraging.
[Xperia Z3 General] kernald:
Updating a source tree from 4.4.4 to 5.0.2 is pretty much quicker than updating it from 4.4.4 to 5.0.0 to 5.0.1 to 5.0.2 as you can skip potential conflicts. But most of the work is similar. 5.0.1 and 5.0.2 are bug-fixes releases which have close to no impact on OEMs' source trees.
[Xperia Z3 General] shtepsel:
I would have preferred to get the update to 5.0 and the Sony bloatware to get update afterwards.

It's pathetic to see it as a good sign that the update is coming based on the apps, when all major OEMs have

finished

updating their flagships
[Xperia Z3 General] fabfor:
I only wanted to whine a little in the whining room.

WHIIIIIIIINE!

Thanks
[Xperia Z3 General] hebbe:
i don't get why so many are whining and hating their z3, even want to sell it or change to a competitor, just because the update is delayed???

you can't be serious...when there wasn't an update to Android L in sight, you all loved this phone...telling how awesome battery life is, the design, the ui, its other features are georgeous... and now, just because there is an update (waiting), and other phones might just have gotten this update already, then suddenly the z3 is crap? is to be hated? is to be sold?? imagine, if google would have announced lollipop for 2016, you all still would love this phone.

i don't get it :confused:
[Xperia Z3 General] shtepsel:
In my case it's not about the Z3, it's about Sony's support or rather lack of. The device itself is very nice but as I'm sure you know the hardware is not everything.

I'm not excepting the updates to come along side the nexus devices, but at least Sony should have made an effort to stay competitive with Samsung and HTC...
[Xperia Z3 General] aakash43:
Stay competitive with samsung and htc, sony announced the end of mobile and tv, so i don't see any reason they are serious about lollipop.
[Xperia Z3 General] goTouch:
I just found an article about Android 6 "M" that is likely to come on November 2015.

Let's hope that Lollipop on Z3 comes before the release of Android 6.
[Xperia Z3 General] lee480:
You clearly need to read up more. Sony said they are exploring various options for the departments.
[Xperia Z3 General] kernald:
Having used exclusively a BlackBerry Z10 for two years, I'm pretty familiar with the "hardware is not everything", seeing the lack of applications on the Z3. But man, seriously. What's a couple of months without an update? I mean, it's not like your phone wasn't functionnal yet. Yes, it could be better. Yes, it will be better one day. Taking as granted the fact that it will be better once running Lollipop. But having Lollipop (please guys, stop talking about Android L like it was Android Lollipop, they are two different things, the preview and the release, with two different API levels) now or in a couple of months won't change the fact that your device is great right now, with the software it's running right now.
[Xperia Z3 General] krugu:
Ohhhh&hhh this is way!!! They are waiting that Google fixes all bugs and then we will get the update, with android 6!

ajhhhhhajhhhhh we are lost ?
[Xperia Z3 General] aakash43:
OK! Sorry i'm not aware of it.
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
There's whine egg sausage and whine...that's not got much whine in it!
[Xperia Z3 General] Cozmos23:
Lets face the reality, 5.1 is coming in March, 5.2 is announced as "soon" and Android 6.0 should come November 2015 and we will not see anything further than 5.0.2 this year.

Depending on whats happening to Sonys mobile part its possible that the update is the last one ever.

So if u want the latest security updates on Android u have 2 options.

1. flash a custom rom (in case of Sony the warranty is lost)

2. buy an Nexus or Moto

In my opinion, if Custom Roms are not really useable on Android there is no reason to stick there and I will switch to Apple where even 5 year old devices get the latest updates.
[Xperia Z3 General] Quincux:
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Sent from my Xperia Z3 D6603
[Xperia Z3 General] Drzfr3shboialex:
I'm.leaning towards getting the m9 because of the Sony mobile closing down or getting sold off, it sucks because they're amazing but htc is just as good to me.
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
M9 definitely seems appealing with camera change, however even if Sony Mobile is sold it will likely still operate under a new owner. Look at Motorola, it was officially handed over to Lenovo as the Nexus 6 started shipping, support didn't suddenly stop.
[Xperia Z3 General] jonmorris:
That was the

only

phone that year that didn't get ICS and Sony gave its reasons why.
[Xperia Z3 General] Akiainavas:
Not your fault - most media presented it like this, even Forbes. Apparently a decision made by Sony that mobile is "no longer a profit driving category" for them equals leaving the market in media's language.

Even with a Nexus or Moto you can't be sure of that. That has always been, is and most likely will be the biggest woe of Android. In this regard - Apple's model is much much better - while having obvious disadvantages of course.

4.4 and 5.0 were supposed to change that - Google even made an effort to try and convince (?) or maybe force (?) manufacturers to update within 90 days etc. Guess how well it worked out ;)

So I guess what I'm trying to say is that if software updates are your biggest priority - Android is not your friend.
[Xperia Z3 General] SkyS1gn:
Z2's also fluid, 60FPS "ish".... it was strange when i first tried the Z3's camera, its like 25 :o
[Xperia Z3 General] jonnytrix83:
I have xperia t,z1 and z3 but i never buy another sony.. I thired to see sony liar..htc is more professional for sure
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
I can shoot 120 fps on my Z3.

Verdict: User error.
[Xperia Z3 General] hebbe:
verdict: you didn't get the post!

they're talking about the frame rate of the preview screen when using the camera app, not about how many pics/sec the camera can shoot.
[Xperia Z3 General] freddy1991:
By judging from the leaked photo of the alleged M4 Aqua and Z4 Tablet , the icons of the Phone, Messaging, Camera and Sketch will be tweaked into a flatter look plus the wifi and signal icons will be changed too.

Photo source - XperiaBlog
[Xperia Z3 General] session20:
Yes, and I think root is MUST after lollipop update. Moreover, I think this update will force others as well to root the phone.
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
You're quite right. (Although, why would anyone care about the preview screen?)
[Xperia Z3 General] profprof:
Another month just disappeared into the ether!
[Xperia Z3 General] itsjustJOH:
And a taskbar for the tablet!
[Xperia Z3 General] vittogn:
To deal with it is enough to change the launcher and it's icon pack.

In my opinion it is more important to have a good look for dialer, contacts, settings.....

Inviato dal mio D6603 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Xperia Z3 General] unmaskedfalesh:
They would most probably announce lollipop on 2nd march...and roll out from next next week or whatsoever.. God knows when
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
Obviously they're waiting for this thread to reach 100 pages.
[Xperia Z3 General] Prasad:
This is my first Sony purchase and will clearly be the last. No wonder Sony is on the verge of shutting down its mobile division.. You reap what you sow.
[Xperia Z3 General] lee480:
Nope. They sold a record number of phone the previous quarter, however due to goodwill write off expenses costing close to a billion, they made a huge lost. And Sony Mobile won't shut down operations. They're just exploring various options. Get your facts right.