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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] DomusX10:
At this moment, you are the only user that say this to me. Thanks for your opinion, but even I think that I'll wait to 5.1 release for upgrade my Z1C to LP. Because, even google says that 5.1 fix the battery drain problems on 5.0 ...about the rest, a lot of user says that the responsiveness of phone is worst than KK.

Perfectly agree.

I understand.

Thanks to all of you for fast response and opinions.

I can say that on 4.4.4 this phone goes well. 2 days battery life, stable, fast response in every part of phone...camera goes well, no lag, good quality for me. Someone tell that on JB camera was even better, I don't know because I use KK from first day on this phone.

If I have to switch to LP only for a better lockscreen and a material design settings (too white in my opinion) I rest on KK for life (KK quick settings rule compared to LP ones.)

I've just say this: I'm a Sony addicted, love Sony style and philosofy, this terminal (Z1C) is a good choice and I love it.

But with 5.0.2 update, in my opinion, fail. In my opinion, Sony seems that he had to rush to release the update on all the range Z, but doesn't optimized the different versions on different firmware.

So much so that were already issued three different firmware for Z1C, linked only to a speech operator, but that apparently solves nothing of the problems complained by users.

So I hope, and I stress I hope, that with the announced 5.1 in August Sony have reasoned otherwise.

Otherwise, I think my Z1C KK will stand on for the rest of his life (at least with regard to the stock ROM, of course) because on KK phone goes well and responsive.

I'm happy when others users tell me their impression, what they lived with an update, as I did it many times... in this way, the community will gain more and more.

So, once again, thanks for all your opinions. :good:
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] maninder singh bali:
i said it that the camera on jelly bean is better than the other android versions for our xperia. you should try 4.3 .114 firmware and see by yourself. you'll be surprised to knw that why you have been using your device on kitkat.

the camera in jellybean is much more sharper in daylight as well as in lowlight ( i can guarantee ). you will see the main difference in the lowlight shots. the tweaks you make to get a better scene on kitkat or greater version including lollipop, the same tweaks if implemented on jellybean can produce excellent shots.

this is the link to the daylight shot on 4.3 .114 firmware

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz9f3QhQfJ-fM01Ia0RidGhSQzQ&authuser=0

i agree that the color reproduction on lollipop in bright sunny day has improved. the colors are little more saturated and the image looks bold and pretty much better than 4.3 .114 firmware. this is the link

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz9f3QhQfJ-feEo2UTBUQ0NHSk0&authuser=0

But on lollipop .242 , .270 and .283 the lowlight shots are very very noisy and the iso + the exposure increases unexpectedly. even after tweaking the settings the image produces is soft and noise is still present this is the link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9f3QhQfJ-fdnE5UFpFR25Dd0E/view?usp=sharing

the cm 11 has even more sharper or similar shots to the 4.3 .114 firmware. this is the link

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz9f3QhQfJ-fOUM4Q2diR2VxVkE&authuser=0

here is the link to all pics folder

https://drive.google.com/folderview...ZERlVYcXFNd1FzaVl3amFYWkhRWFYtZU0&usp=sharing
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] camaro322hp:
- Yes, in my experience, camera is about the same as on KK, video too. But I'm not a professional photographer, so I'm not analyzing pixel by pixel. It could be slightly worse in some conditions, but it's not noticeable to me.

- Apps to SD - can't comment because I don't use it.

- Yes, after reboot, all my disabled apps are still disabled, and I have many disabled apps.

- Yes, battery is the same or better than KK. At the end of the day with my same usage pattern, my battery level is usually slightly higher than it was on KK. Yes, I've read about the play services issues, and if I'm affected by it, it's not enough to make my battery life worse than KK.

- Yes, system responses are just as fast as KK, nothing feels slower.

- Stamina mode - can't comment because I haven't used it.

Not sure why you don't seem to believe me about the battery life - is it so hard to believe that someone may have a different experience than you? If you want to post specific things you've had trouble with, that's fine, but when you make blanket statements saying it's a "downgrade" based on your experiences, that doesn't apply to everyone. For me, LP is perfectly fine and meets my needs.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] DomusX10:
Good to know this. But too less users says this (about battery) a lot of users says "drain" more than KK. Me too.

I believe in other users experiences..do you read my previous posts? I say "my opinion" and want to know other opinions.

If you tell me that LP for you goes well, I believe it.

At the end, after a series of users that says their opinions I have a more clear point about the situation of LP on this phone. So, for me, every opinion is really important, because everyone use phone in different ways, so can tell me about something that I don't use o don't know.

I'm sorry that you think that I don't believe you. Again, thanks for your opinion and time.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] raptor3000:
The most annoying thing on .270 is that the battery drain is horrific. Since the update I'm constantly out of power after 6-7 hours usage. On KK, it endured between 9-11 hours with the same usage. Any suggestions?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] patoberli:
I don't have any problem with the battery. Can you check if your screen brightness is higher? That is typically the most power consuming part.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Redstarr1:
We're all going to say different things about the battery. I see raptor3000 claiming he had up to 11 hours of "usage" on his amami on KK or JB, but I find that a strange amount or you define usage differently. For me, usage means the time I actively use the phone, mostly with the screen on, except for listening music, so 11 hours of "usage" is completely impossible . On the other hand, I easily get to the end of the day, so that's about 16 hours of being standby and being used for a few minutes at a time. If I want to, I can easily last the second day, so you can't be talking about time between charges unless you use the phone intensely.

Without doing some proper testing, I can't give more facts other than that with the same usage, I have about the same battery percentage left on LP as I had on KK. Maybe if you're a more intense user, you can notice a bigger difference. I'd say I'm a more casual user: no games, only reading and surfing, max 2 hours screen on time per day, 50% brightness, WiFi/4G/BT on and connected if possible (I have a Smartband that's permanently connected), notifications most of the time vibration only. Sometimes WiFi tethering with my tablet (almost never more than 15 minutes).

There just isn't a single smartphone platform without power related bugs (what am I saying, every OS I've ever used had some power problem at some point). Yes I have occasionally noticed my battery draining rapidly (once since the LP update), but rebooting when I noticed that fixed the draining, and luckily I can charge my phone at work and most other places I go to. I'm quite sure I have experienced similar bugs in every other iteration of Android, so don't blame Sony or Google.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] profyler:
you should try a factory reset immediately.

Battery last the same amount for me comparing to KK, except the weird battery drop % that I (and some others) have and that occasionaly happens...

As I always say; factory reset your phone after a big version update .. this is completely mandatory for me and even sony said these a few times.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] raptor3000:
I didn't try to mislead anyone, just compared my daily usage of the phone with LP with the on KK. I have day to day the same tasks and activities which occur almost every day at the same time. From 07:30 in the morning, where I read my RSS feeds, over the 08:00 to 16:00 phone calls (about 30 minutes on the line), responding to mails, schedule events and tasks and remote support over TeamViewer to the evening twitter feed and games session. On KK, I finished my workday with about 20-30%. With LP, I have an empty battery on 13:00 or 14:00, and that's what I'm referring to. My usage description is not a benchmark, but an overall comparison of the power consumption related to my daily tasks.

---------- Post added at 10:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:07 PM ----------

A factory reset was inaceptable, there were to many app data to loose. My Z1C isn't rooted, and I have no confidence in the Sony desktop app to store everything.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] profyler:
I know it sucks, but its 4, 5 hours youre gona spent to have a working device instead of a phone that last 8 hours.

Backup everythin and you will be fine. Apps and settings will be restored automatic.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] uchihakurtz:
True dat, battery has become really **** since Lollipop, I had to charge twice a day when usually I can last one and a half day with medium usage. But I think it's more on Google's fault. Check your battery usage, is Google Service dominating? I tried to wipe data but alas that Google Service app still drains too much. Any tips on killing this on rooted device?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] grisu59964:
I use Amplify to make the problem smaller. After all tuning, the battery performance with Lollipop is almost the same as with Kitkat.

Unfortunately, there is no solution for the active mobile connection for Android 5.0. I really hope this gets better with Android 5.1.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] uchihakurtz:
I haven't tried Xposed on Lollipop yet, lulz. But turning off Google Now, disabling sharing location of Google Map, and also turning all Google's bloat into user app and hibernating them seem to help a bit too. They really need to get their s**t right.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] grisu59964:
I have not experienced problems with Xposed so far. I completely uninstalled Google Search and some other pre-installed apps. I used the debloat script you can find on xda for Xperia Z devices and removed the parts from the script that I really need (like ANT+).
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] New Folder:
Out of curiosity i tried LP latest official release .270

First impressions:

Battery drains alot faster. I was used to charge in every 2-3 days but now it couldn't even last single day.

Animations are really slowing navigation around the phone down, why are they even there?

Camera launches in 1-2 seconds on average compared to KK 0.7 seconds.

Firefox browser suddenly became slower than Chrome. Google doing on purpose?

Biggest mess was the awkward statusbar and the huge icons. Felt like i found phone for elderly people with poor eyesight.

Why can't it be clean like this:

[IMG="KK statusbar"]http://i.imgur.com/ZnMn74Q.png?2[/IMG]

Overall the super fast phone felt suddenly like Samsung fully bloated crap.

Sure it's nice and maybe gives you the funny feeling to have the latest software but LP is definitely rushed and in alpha condition.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
Good luck with that impressions,for me lp work's better then kk and there is no camera "not connected" bug;)

Work's like butter smooth;)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] profyler:
I have nothing like you mentioned.

Give it a factory reset and you Will have a New Phone...
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] BlackArtsInc:
What's with the notification bar being usable in lock screen on. 270? Can I somehow completely disable it when the phone is locked?

Not sent by me.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] autobanned:
Check in setting > Sound & notification > when device is locked > don't show notification at all
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] neandertaler19:
But that doesn't disable the notification bar. It just disables the notifications on the lock screen. I think the notificaiton bar is always accessable, probably because of the quick settings.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] BlackArtsInc:
Nope, notification bar still accessible. Any more suggestions?

Not sent by me.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
No,that is a lp bug and nothing can't be done;)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] DomusX10:
Hi everyone,

Finally even I've updated my Z1C to 5.0.2 with Sony Pc companion, officially.

Goes well, there are some differences in battery drain compared to KK, but phone performances are the same.

I have only a question for you: using CPU-z , I notice this that you can see in the attachment: my device is Z1C but CPU-z reveal a Z1! In fact says 5" inch display..

On KK CPU-z display correct informations about phone...happened also to you? Or only in my case?

It's due to the fact that the 14.5 firmware is the same for Z1 and Z1C?

It's not a problem, but it's strange...
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] paolo-red1:
Did you washed it in cold water?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] DomusX10:
:confused:

Don't spam thread if you don't want to ask.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] finduz:
It seems that the charging bug still persists in 5.1, is there any solution to this other than reverting to 4.4?

Thread about it on the Sony forum.

Made a gif that shows how the phone behaves: https://gfycat.com/MediocreOccasionalIchthyostega

Screen stays on and the phone gets quite hot at 90-95%.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] DomusX10:
I don't have this bug...I use directly usb cable or my dock for Z1C on 5.0.2 ...no problem (clean install).
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] crimson12:
I didn't read the whole thread, so sorry if this has been asked to you already. Do you use the magnetic charger or the USB?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] :
My Contacts app forced stop once after updating and phone froze when i used the vol up button(once as well)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
I think magnetic charger doesn't seems to be happening with charging bug? Can anyone confirm? and some guys just got a defective usb cable and power adapter or his battery is dated, not related with charging bug.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Davka:
I have this behavior but only when I'm using not-Sony low-quality USB cables (there is too much voltage drop on such cables).

Everything is working fine on original USB cable connected directly or by magnetic charger (or from my laptop to my Z1c).

I don't thinks that there was a difference in this behavior on previous firmwares. I have similar behavior on my other Nokia Lumia 920, these phones are demanding on high current and stable 5V.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] finduz:
The USB cable.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z2/Lollipop-charging-bug/td-p/965384/page/25

Sure a good quality of equipment would help charging stable and fast but many of them roll back to KK with the same usb cable and adapter then the problem solved according to sonymobile forum. There must be somethings wrong in 5.0.2/5.1.1, if you don't have the issue then you're the lucky one but I won't give it a try.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] BlackArtsInc:
I don't think there is actually a charging bug. It's the cables.

Not sent by me.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
I've read all pages in that thread now. It seems LP is very picky with cable and adapter for some reasons, some changed to shorter usb cable or a new high amp adapter then problem solved. While many reverted back to KK with the same cable and adapter then the problem gone, so there must be a bug presented.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] quixoticduck:
Hello, I'm still running 4.4.4. There is an upgrade pop-up on my phone to 14.5.A.0.242. I've heard that 5.0.2 for Z1C is bad for battery and other things. I see a thread about a later version. Is there a way to know if I can get a later fixed version of Lollipop without upgrading to 5.0.2 first? Or is there no fixed version released anyway? I'm in the UK running default 4.4.4. Bought phone at Virgin.

Thank you.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Willber G:
I bought mine (new, unlocked) three months ago. It came with 5.0.2 but updated to 5.1.1 immediately. It works fine.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] quixoticduck:
Thank you, although I guess since you never had it with KitKat you don't know if LP is an improvement?

Are you in the UK? My OTA says 14.5.A.0.242, I'm not sure if I have to do one and then the next?

Still a bit worried about any LP issues though. KK runs great for me I just dislike not having control of the SD.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Willber G:
Yes, I am in the UK. No, I can't compare on this phone, but I did have KK on my previous phone (Xperia ZR) and LP 14.6.A.1.236 seems little different.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] balanced_emotions:
I bought a back cover replacement lately. I am not sure it was original. But it was so fragile that I broke it while trying to fix. Was your japanese (I guess it is the docomo version z1f's back cover) back cover thin and fragile, too?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] profyler:
nope it wont.

if it comes in april (2nd week) it will make sense. They also said z3/z2 would be get lolli in february end , and it came only in march.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Rekoil:
Perhaps Ultra Stamina since its a software feature, but iirc our device cannot do DT2W without some serious battery drainage due to how the hardware is setup.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aakash43:
And that to for nordic and baltic region only. I think in India lollipop will be released in may or next year.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] gavinluisdmello:
Nope

Around the same time if past is any indication
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] marsx1984:
Enough with the negativity ! We all know Sony is allways late in providing software updates , we don't need every post to tell us some variation of that.

Let's just focus on the latest information that Sony released in this blog post

"You’ll see the upgrade hit first devices in the Nordics and Baltics, continuing to further markets, for more Xperia Z Series products, starting in around two weeks time" - so the time frame for the next devices to be upgraded is the week starting on march 30th. I am sure the Snapdragon 800 familly (Z1,Z1c,Z ultra) is the next in line to get lollipop.

Even if it's only released in the Nordics and Baltics you can very easily flash it on to your devices from other regions. All you will be missing is the personalised bloatware for your region ,wich nobody ever uses anyway.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] lboccardi:
What is the chance to receive the 5.1 in our Z1 ?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aakash43:
You Do Believe in sony. Two=too weeks hahaha
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] profyler:
pretty hi. almost certain.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Revontheus:
Even if we don't receive official 5.1, you can always rely on CyanogenMod Team to release nightlies lol
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] lebartman:
certified

https://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=24844

Envoyé de mon D5503 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] marsx1984:
Good. On track for the release next week.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Jonfensu:
DT2W is compatible with our devices (S800) Look how LG implemented that feature in the G2 . And if Sony put that in the Tablet Z (S4 Pro) without battery drainage, how it should not work in our devices?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] uchihakurtz:
I heard it had to do with our screen technology which doesn't support it, regardless of the spec inside.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Lasantha:
finally lolipop certified...next week roll out? :)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] biggiebro:
Next week roll out in Nordic countries , then usually it will take another 4 weeks to arrive here in South East Asia.. :(
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Rekoil:
The LG device allows the touch digitizer to stay awake while the LCD panel sleeps. This is not possible with the panel in the Z1C since the digitizer and the panel are powered as one unit. Cutting power to one of them by itself is not possible. I'm not sure how Knock-On works though, I think that's to do with the accelerometer together with the digitizer in the phone, but if it's only the accelerometer then that might be possible to write for the Z1C.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] profyler:
flash with another fw.

there wont be ultra stamina nor DT2W guys, that is pretty 100% certain.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] GioBlacK92:
The firmware is available yet via xperifarm?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] profyler:
no. not available. just certificated. Usually after certification, it becomes available after one week. i'll guess next monday.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] balanced_emotions:
But the certification date of z3 compact is after the date of release ??
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] n3087:
Yes z3 and z2 also.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] erkan76:
Is there likely to week? (ofcourse baltic or nordic )
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] temp2010x:
waiting 14.5.A.0.242 !! And the solved problem mirecast 14.4.a.x versions.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] fightingirish173:
Source: Sony Mobile blog - Continuing our Android 5.0, Lollipop rollout: Xperia Z3, Xperia Z3 Compact and Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact - 2015-03-30

Url:

blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/03/30/continuing-our-android-5-0-lollipop-rollout-xperia-z3-xperia-z3-compact-and-xperia-z3-tablet-compact/?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=continuing-our-android-5-0-lollipop-rollout-xperia-z3-xperia-z3-compact-and-xperia-z3-tablet-compact

The Z1 and the Z1 Compact are not mentioned in this blog post.

IMHO I am still expecting the lollipop roll-out for these devices in the second week of April after the Easter holidays.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aakash43:
In India update will reach next year at this speed.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] WalkmanFM:
Hope that at least no issues.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] profyler:
no issues were found on z3 and z2,

for the first time i think sony has manage to buid a major update withou bugs :eek:
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] AlienTechGR:
Perfect Update

I also tested the Lollipop 5.0.2 on a friend's Z3 Compact and it's absolutely perfect.So fast,so snappy,so smooth and of course,bug free.I hope we'll get a perfect update on our Z1 Compacts too! :)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] eumanoid:
I think it's a bit too early to say it's bug free but I'm glad you guys already have it.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] marsx1984:
https://twitter.com/SonyMobileNews/status/582907899355246592

https://twitter.com/SonyMobileNews/status/582898156628766720
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] corvintheus:
So only after April 14 th
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] profyler:
damn. i was wrong... i really thought it would came this week. Well, back to waiting mode guys...
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] giober98:
I got the update notification!!!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] rob rich:
Me too :)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] zordo:
I got the notification too last week, no update though.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] crexzz:
I just Done the update via PC Companion and i'm already loving the new features and slight change of looks.

But somehow the vibrator seems to have auto vibrating issues. Although it's only intermittent, i'm still worried that it could be a hardware problem.

Anyone facing the same issue? :(

I've tried doing the full clean install via PC companion and still face the same issue.

Please advise
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] korenisko:
Update to android 5?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Angelgmr:
April fools day, don't believe it ?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] balanced_emotions:
LOL You almost got me though I am checking it hourly via xperifirm :)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] omegastarr:
Hahahaha don't belive ANYTHING said on this day :D As for the update, expect it no sooner than mid april. I won't be able to see it for my z1c because I'm buying z3 next week (which is a good and a bad thing :D ).
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Revontheus:
It's okay to wait a little for the update, If it was rushed and had lots of bugs like the RAM management bugs that happened when they rushed the Xperia SP updates its pointless lol
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] :
The Baltic Version for the z2 is out so I think maybe our z1 compact gets his update in round about 2 weeks. ;):good: