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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] fredphoesh:
LAGGING everywhere on Build KTU84P N910FXXU1ANIE

Loving my Note 4... but

IT IS VERY LAGGY!!!

As it is, this incredible phone is completely spoiled by a jerky experience, and this is using Google Apps which are usually very smooth, like Play Store, Gmail, Hangouts, Google Plus, and other well made apps like Pulse and Facebook... all usually very smooth, but not with the Note4 I got yesterday. My nexus 5 was much smoother, with a much slower processor.

Do any of you in the UK have the update yet, I have not had it yet?

Cheers

Mark
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] edouble312:
You guys should read the "root and what works" thread, because this was already solved. Wanam causes a conflict with Shealth and you have to go into Wanam, security hacks, disable secure storage. then go to settings/apps and clear s health data and cache and then reboot I've done this on the latest update, and now have no lag issues
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] irfanadli97:
Uh? Do I need to root my phone in order to join XDA?

Also I would appreciate what factory ROM has 'served' me, and I would actually use the warranty given for hardware repairs since I'm a clumsy person.

English is not my first language so where do you mean 'sarcastic'?

Sorry.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] GatoL0c0:
Ah yes, the ability to search and read has been getting worse and worse.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] twilliamszx3:
I'm also getting random lag, even before root, xposed and wanam. Seems to be the same as the s4, s5 and note 2 previously. Once custom kernels are out with better scheduling, it should be remedied.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] fredphoesh:
My phone is not rooted yet... if it cannot work without lag with the stock rom, I will not keep it and it will go back to EE... so I am hoping the update comes very soon. I suggest everyone who has just got their Note 4 does NOT root it until they are satisfied it works as well as they expect it to... it's a lot of money and you have the right to return it within 2 weeks if ordered online (in the UK/EU).
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] twe90kid:
This is the United States.. If I don't like the phone, even rooted... I can return it.. If they don't let me, just file a credit card claim. I paid the phone, I own it.. I can do whatever I want to the software.

I hate it when people jump in scared of Knox or voiding warranty.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] twe90kid:
Will check it out.. I don't even use s-health so I didn't think this was the issue.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mike28:
No lag here
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Amd4life:
Mine is VERY laggy, throughout all the menus in comaprison to my note3, running cm11 or hyperdrive.

I have xposed (which I think is the main issue, but I need it to run xprivacy), nova, the new firmware update, its rooted (post update) and wanam installed in order to get shealth working.

The phone itself is great, but the over all software implementation is pretty poor. No way a device from a major manufacturer, should be outdone in responsiveness by some AWESOME hobbyists.

With the same setup, as my note3 (side by side), screens change slower, scrolling is slower, and apps open a tad slower. The overall experience is just no where near as smooth as quick.

Now I am comparing 1yr of ROM development (hyper and temasek) vs a 2day release(stock note4), so of course some tweaks need to be made.

If you have a note3 rooted, might want to wait a few weeks before dropping $750.

Also I had to manually up the core speed to 2.7 in faux clock, mine was set at 2.3 for some reason.

The screen is AWESOME, the speaker is surprisingly nice, build quality and feel are top notch (no gaps, or peeling paint, or loose buttons!!!), and the camera really is nice upgrade that I didn't expect I would be happy about.

I only get 42,921 on antutu, which was what I get on my note3 at 2.3ghz ( not over clocked)

That's pretty bad overall performance out the box IMO.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] frankth3frizz:
Disabled a lot for me to get rid of the lag. Tons of background apps. Buy main resource hog is the tmobile apps
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
I just got 46869 on a pure stock setup, but, as we all know, benchmarks mean absolutely nothing, unless they are indicative of other issues with your phone
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] twe90kid:
i'm guessing the only solution is wait patiently for a custom recovery... we need some custom roms!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] RaymondPJR:
The only lag I've seen so far on my unrooted Note4, is with Swype!!!! Dammit, I thought those days were gone!! Swype was once so awesome, but once it came out of beta, it's been laggy! Not on topic, but the only other issue I've had is mysteriously migrating and disappearing widgets, just like on my Note 3.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] spirodave:
It because with tmobile they really dont care about if your warranty is Void . For one rooting doesnt void it either . Tripping the knox flag does . I just took my GS5 to tmobile today because it had connection problems and my warranty was flagged and the sales guy said they dont care they just reflash the device anyway . I rooted my Note4 20 min after having it too . Almost everything that is cool on XDA involves being rooted so i think that is what he meant . If you have handset protection then nothing voids that including running over your phone with a car . Flashing custom firmware and recoveries voids warranties cause it trips the knox counter. Either way I wouldnt worry about it because at the end of the day the phone company wants your monthly money and they arent going to let a software exploit keep them from providing you services .
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] bigmase23:
I went in to Developer Options and scaled the animations back, all of mine are now set to 0.5, phone is flying!!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] twe90kid:
Custom recovery and rom doesn't do anything. I've rooted every phone that I had. Not once did a custom rom or recovery give me problems. I even showed the managers of what I've done and explain to them when they asked about rooting benefits.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] jamesrick80:
Google apps even lag on my wife's iphone 6 plus...interesting. ..no lag on my note 4....Google now at first start loads a little which may seem as lag but it's not
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] littlegreenalien:
so does this phone lag? anybody upgraded from a g3 because that phone lag so bad.i want to know if its snappier
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] scoobrel:
I'm experiencing some lag when pressing the recent button, it takes about 1 to 2 secs for the recent apps to popup. I'm on a stock note 4. Is this normal?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sprintuser1977:
I am PISSED.

MY phone was smooth as butter. No lag, not a little. Then it happened .

Some app I got asked for root permission, no biggie. Then the SOB went into a death spiral of boot looping when I restarted. I tried everything, nothing worked, So I had to Odin stock rom back.

Not only is it lagging like a *****, like terrible, (l can type and be 3-4 letters ahead before they appear, same with writing, scrolling, freaking everything, it erased my F'n sd card except for some plcs. Backups gone.

Also, now I have all this T.mobile crap all over that wasn't there before.

I am not happy. Went from ecstatic to pulling hair so fast.

l pray to the dear Lord when I flash that newest update it will fix it, And I get root back to rid the bloat, but if not, it will be going back to be exchanged Monday.

My 10 yr old Treo isn't this friggin laggy.

My freaking blood pressure. lve done this before many many times and this is a first.

Thanks for listening to my rant. lm gonna go play with Odin.

:mad::(:thumbdown:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] keitht:
I noticed that on the demo model at a T-Mobile store. It also happens on my Nexus 5 sometimes which is pure raw Android. I think it is an Android thing but Samsung has tweaked the look of this option so it is not surprising that it may a little slower.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] scoobrel:
Thanks for the info, i wasn't sure if it was normal or if it was just my phone.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Play4Zeta:
I did have lag on my Note 4, but here is how I fixed it.

I dont know if this has any effect but it seemed to have work for me

I originally rooted my phone using the method I found in the forums and the downloaded files as well. After doing that I experianced minor lag, and screen frozen from time to time. It was really bothersome and It would get in the way of alot of things.

After all that, I decided to go flash my device back to stock. Instead of using the files here (except for the actual stock file). I used Odin 3.09 and went to Chainfire's website to look for his publicated version instead of TEKS.

After doing the process all over again. No more lag!

Hope this helped :)

(USING XPOSED CURRENTLY, NOT WANAM)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] fredphoesh:
Im talking about basic things like scrolling a page on FB or Google+ - smooth +30fps type motion on Nexus 5, and 10fps jerky motion on Note4.

Apps like Pulse jerk terribly when scrolling through articles, call it crappy loading or lag, the result is the same, a poor user experience.

I'm hanging on for the update, if this lag is not completely fixed, to at LEAST Nexus 5 smoothness, I am returning the Note 4 and getting something better (maybe droid turbo if it comes to the UK)

Mark
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Milly7:
I have not experienced any unusual lag with my Note 4. I have had the S3, Note 3, and S5, all of which have lagged due to touch wiz, bloat, etc. I have also had the nexus 5 and m8, which flies. Maybe some individuals have some background processes, or use some of the built in apps that others do not, which are slowing down the phone.

I also want to add that the "lag" in the recents button is most likely due to the fact that it doubles as menu on long press. The phone is probably waiting to recognize whether it is long press or not before opening recents. I have experienced something similar when activating SVoice through the home button, which causes the home button to delay waiting to see if a double tap will be registered.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] RaymondPJR:
I noticed that last night myself. Not a biggie since I'm not seeing it anywhere else except in Swype, and that's probably a Swype issue!

---------- Post added at 03:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:21 PM ----------

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! I didn't know a long press brought up the old functionality of the menu! I was missing that so much and trying my best to get used to it! I'll bet you are right that in having it serve two functions is what's causing the lag! Can you remind me how to disable S-Voice from the home button long press? I haven't set it up, but I'm sure that makes no difference!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] irfanadli97:
Hmm...different here... the retailer strongly saying like "YOU AIN'T GONNA FLASH THAT DEVICE OTHERWISE ANY SERVICES BY US ABOUT YO' DEVICE IS NOT MY PROB ANYMORE!":mad:, like seriously, services are only for the users who hadn't done nothing serious about their phone. The services? ALL you might think of excluding rooting or flashing another recovery or ROM.:silly:

With that rule been set up my citizen does not know how to troubleshoot their own device ( once I met an Oppo N1 user and he's freaking out about an ANR popup of Google Search) .:(
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Milly7:
If you haven't set it up you shouldn't have a problem. If you do, I think clearing data in S-Voice will remove the foible tap to activate.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] blewis540:
I got rid of the issue by uninstalling xposed - editing build.prop to disable secure storage its set as true make it false, then clear the caches of s health and health services, reboot and install xposed. Lag is gone
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] raw2000j:
I checked an old thread said remove SD card and that **** stopped lagging and freezing I believe its SD card I'm using sandisk 128gb I put back in testing right now

---------- Post added at 10:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:48 PM ----------

Definitely SD card unmounted tried worked now reinserted SD card no more lag here
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] twe90kid:
my lag seem to have went away or have not seen it happen again...

nothing to do with the 128 sd card.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] raw2000j:
What did u do?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] twe90kid:
dunno... i flashed the t-mobile update through odin.

booted fully and turned off the phone. reflashed the root file in cfautoroot.

allowed superuser on xposed and wanam. turned off the security on wanam and rebooted the phone..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] raw2000j:
How u turned off security in wanam?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] twe90kid:
Go to security hacks of Wanam. Then check off "disable secure storage"
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mandog202:
any lag i was having seems to have stopped after turning off secure storage, and clearing data for S Health
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] fredphoesh:
Im shocked and disappointed at the ever present jerky scrolling... pretty pathetic IMO considering the processor is so much faster than the nexus 5 and there is more ram and a much faster graphics engine...

I really am tempted to send it back saying it is "faulty" and doing that with every one they send me till they fix their sub-standard user experience. One should not HAVE to hack a premium smartphone to get a smooth interface.

Mark.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] NICEGYPT:
if samsung didn't fix this lag issue. This is going to be my last samsung device period.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Exfex21:
I am with you 100%. I HATE the fact that I have to compare it to the iPhone 6 smoothness. We have a ip6 and a ip6+ at home and the user experience for what ever its worth is a lot more pleasant on the iPhone. ****... I feel like I am venting here but why do I have to be upset at samsung? We all pay hard earned money for a nice experience. Yes the camera is awesome but thats only a fraction of the experience.

Note: My sd card might be causing my choppiness? If thats the case... idk what to even say.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tell4ever:
to anybody with lag issues, its not xposed it may be caused by SuperSU, go to SUPERSU and set the following,,,

Default access : Grant

Logging: None

and make sure to check TRUST SYSTEM USER

i had zero lag after doing this, hope i helped
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] raw2000j:
Mine was due to sd card i unmounted it played with it fir like 10 minutes no lag reinserted sd card and no more lag
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] AoRaidenX:
Hmmmm just got my phone earlier today and haven't notice any lag but my phone did just randomly freeze... I had to take out the battery like wtf I haven't rooted or updated it yet lol...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Mavman42:
Happens all the time with me, i even scaled the animations to 0.5, same thing.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] shabbypenguin:
this is terrible advice for anyone wanting to make sure their phone doesnt have any app rape it via root. having your device automatically give out root like its candy and not even keep any logs of doing it is the steps that many forms of malware would start the day off with.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pierrekid:
OMG either download nova launcher, root, post a video of your "lag" or get a new phone! Stop complaining! Seriously every year and every android phone we get these ridiculous threads about lag that sends everyone into a panic about whether or not their phone has lag. Lag is SUBJECTIVE. One persons definition or experience of lag is completely different from the next person. If you really have an ISSUE or a SOLUTION then post a video! That way everyone can compare their results/ problems against the SUBJECTIVE results /problems of the OP. That way everyone can decide if their experience is the same or different. Maybe even, dare I say, consider it to be no lag at all and just some ridiculous expectation the poster has for how the phone should be performing. If you don't then you are blindly assuming everyones perspective and experience is exactly the same. Please be more productive with the threads this year.

Rant finished.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] hello00:
this saddens me
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] bigmase23:
What do you recommend?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] jamesrick80:
I don't know why 1 to 2 sec of waiting for the recent apps to pop up is a big deal, it's that way on most devices...you guys should see how much lag I experience on a everyday basis on my iPad air...I love my lag free note 4 and I do not count recent apps as lag
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] elite-fusion:
Does anyone have a list of items that can be deleted/uninstalled or frozen?

I used TitaniumBackup to convert a few of the Google applications such as Newstand, Play, Games, etc... converted them to user applications instead of system applications, and just ininstalled them, but I do still get the lag constantly. Especially after hanging up on a call.

I have not yet tried the wanam fix and clearing the shealth data to see if it fixes, so will have to try.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] fredphoesh:
Well if anything was a complete waste of your and everyone else's time, it is this rubbish post.

Are you so insecure that criticisms of the phone you use threaten YOU personally???

People, myself included, want to NOT have a massively expensive super fast phone that LAGS like it was some $100 chinese el cheapo phone. There is NO excuse for Samsung's laggy experience, I suggest people phone samsung directly and ask to replace their phones for one that does not lag. I am doing this tomorrow. Perhaps they will do something about the sub-standard coding they do on their Touchwiz skin. And by the way, the home screen isn't the issue, it is scrolling in the samsung messaging app, gmail & other apps like Facebook, Nova etc...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] p()()pypants:
Lag across the phone is non-existent for me....

But I had the messaging app freeze up n die n then got the not responding/force close app message...wouldn't reopen without restarting. This is a simple app, not memory intensive. Why is it freezing up.

Also had the camera app freeze up n force close on me when I tried to take a picture mid phone call... got one picture, then the app froze n took forever to let me back into my phone call screen. With hdr and the new software in camera,I can see this being a bit more memory intensive.... but still...

A few more of these n I'll start being unhappy... shouldn't happen on a phone this powerful, new or not... android 4.4.4 has been out long enough with the s5 that the few Note features should have been a piece of cake to integrate n run on this hardware.

Overall experience had been smooth and pleasant and Swype is flying since I turned off reporting ("contribute usage data" in "my words") and changed to the dark "mercury" keyboard.

Haven't had to reduce animation times to .5 even though that is a cheap way to speed up transitions, but I like the look of normal processed animations. Don't notice any lag in the recent tab, no more than any other system or rooted phone I've used.

With the ability to disable apps and force stop them n clear data all right through the application manager, I still see no need for root.... If these random force closes continue to occur and aren't addressed with a Samsung update, then I will wait for a polished, streamlined, steady, mostly stock Rom n then root for that, but I'm not going crazy on this phone, it's already got so much good going for it... wouldn't mind some 3minit like customizable features though to change the looks of my dialer, notifications panel and overall color scheme of the phone.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pierrekid:
You clearly did not read my post thoroughly. I presented a constructive way for everyone to post their experience with phone in order to determine if there is a problem. Learn to read moron. I love the phone and have no problems with it.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] philliman:
I have no lag anywhere. I disabled a few Google apps. All T-Mobile apps are disabled. Got the phone on release day here in Philly. Used it for a day with TouchWiz and had no lag. Installed Nova Launcher Prime (not because of lag or TouchWiz) I like the customizing and icons. Still no lag. A rooted phone lagging can't be blamed on Samsung. I'm completely stock also. I get great battery life and no lag. I've had force closes but that was app issues. No lag here.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] HtcOnekid:
I agree scrolling is just terrible I will be contacting Samsung as well
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] ingenious247:
Yeah there's no doubt about it, it's choppy. Long time Android enthusiast, and I know what I'm doing.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] scoobrel:
It comes up instantly on my note pro 12.2. But on the note 4 it lags. I've seen some videos of the International version of the note 4 and it seems to pop up instantly.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] fredphoesh:
you clearly have your head buried up some dark place, blind or misguided... see what you said here:

"OMG either download nova launcher, root, post a video of your "lag" or get a new phone! Stop complaining! Seriously every year and every android phone we get these ridiculous threads about lag that sends everyone into a panic about whether or not their phone has lag.... and just some ridiculous expectation the poster has for how the phone should be performing. If you don't then you are blindly assuming everyones perspective and experience is exactly the same. Please be more productive with the threads this year.

That is a pretty arsey, self righteous, smug post, and the fact is, if you look elsewhere about this serious LAG issue, it is pretty commonplace, particularly in the UK were many of us have not have any updates. Stop making judgements of others, it seems patently about you rather than about the issue we are concerned about.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pierrekid:
Lol nice job copy and pasting specific texts within my post instead of reading through the entire post or posting the entire message. Clearly you don't understand constructive solution suggestions or how to read correctly. Not only that but you have now deviated from the point of post ( constructive ways to see if there is an issue) to trying to save face by insulting and twisting my words to sound malicious in my original post.

Again learn to read and objectively answer.