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[Xperia Z3 General] Akiainavas:
I think we all know it's not going to happen... we will wait months. It was the case with 4.4, it will be the case with 5.0 - unfortunately. I remember having battery problems with my Z after update, and they only fixed it 6 months later...

Still, at least 5.0 won't be the last Android version for Z3, that's for sure.
[Xperia Z3 General] cem_jimmy:
Walkman updated
[Xperia Z3 General] bosas200:
They cant not to update z1,z2,z3 because they are powerfull enough
[Xperia Z3 General] pchetan2:
A samsung note device ......or else their flagship (s line) ...I am pretty much impressed with galaxy note 4 ...best device next to Xperia Z3..i dnt like HTC UI...touchwiz is ok for me..Apple is not for me
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
Why? Is this thread harming anyone? Create another one if you're bothered, perhaps calling it Lollipop rather than L because there's no such thing as "android 5.0 L".
[Xperia Z3 General] russell664:
Regardless of what you would like to called it 'L' or 5.0 it is still the same thing isn't it? Your arguing an invalid point.
[Xperia Z3 General] Cozmos23:
Now my 2 years old S4 even received the official Lollipop update...

I'm sick of waiting...

Flagship... lol
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
No, i'm suggesting you start your own very serious thread about Android 5 and get everyone to promise not to post anything in it until android 5 comes out for the z3, because until then you're only going to get rumours and so on. What else could get posted before it's released? Why are you even reading this thread?

When it comes out, start a new thread then and POLICE IT LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT! THIS IS A THREAD ON A FREE FORUM! IT'S NOT SOMETHING TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY! PEOPLE HAVE DIED FOR THE RIGHT TO POST HERE!

ps. You're, not your.
[Xperia Z3 General] :
Well said, those ppl ahhh
[Xperia Z3 General] cem_jimmy:
I dısnt belıeve ıt so look at thıs
[Xperia Z3 General] yakupTR:
Hocam şu Xperia yazısını nasıl yaptın theme falan mı bende var ama sony yazıyor mümkünse pm atabilir misin?

D6503 cihazımdan gönderildi
[Xperia Z3 General] crazymister:
Euhm.. English please?
[Xperia Z3 General] dnzdeniz:
Beyler (guys), English please :D
[Xperia Z3 General] dnzdeniz:
I just found some screenshots (PartyShare app) that shows statusbar will going to be look like.

Also navigation bar buttons are much whiter.
[Xperia Z3 General] cem_jimmy:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-1jQJcHSJqaeWJFSzNmLWRHekE&usp=sharing
[Xperia Z3 General] Playdough96:
We already know how the navigation bar will look like. It will have a triangle as a back button, square as recents but the current Sony home button.
[Xperia Z3 General] Vic.:
Those are probably mock-ups, I can't imagine them using AOSP KK signal icon on Lollipop.
[Xperia Z3 General] dnzdeniz:
You're right. I would like to see AOSP Lollipop signal bar. But this looks pretty good too :)
[Xperia Z3 General] goTouch:
Next month. LL next month.

Of course this is just a guess.

http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/a...Android+-+Android+News,+Rumours,+and+Updates)
[Xperia Z3 General] Thraxzzz:
Once android l is out for z3,trust me this thread Will turn to a complaints thread

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If you can't wait for L, just flash cm12 and revert back once L is out smh
[Xperia Z3 General] Konvict64:
I don't think that it's gonna happen like this because Sony said that it's gonna be out very soon so maybe end February or beginning March but z2 won't receive the update 2 months later whereas they share the same processor lol so your source isn't logical and guess what it's a blog so everyone can said what they want lol
[Xperia Z3 General] Run_dawn10:
Got an update for the Movies app. It has been Lollipopsized. They seem to be pretty adept at updating the little things, I haven't received a single update for my Tab S.

Sony, stop teasing us and release it.
[Xperia Z3 General] kernald:
Android L is the preview (API 20), while Lollipop is the public release (API 21).
[Xperia Z3 General] Rogi_tcz:
I haven't see that yet. I've got it last night. Screenshot from new Walkman with new soft buttons and status bar.
[Xperia Z3 General] bioan:
Those soft keys look like a disaster. Completely unalligned and different sizes.
[Xperia Z3 General] unmaskedfalesh:
Its been there from first md walkman update but sony is unaware of that..maybe in final release it will be fixed...
[Xperia Z3 General] realfelix:
Seriously guys, what is this hype all about? It's just a software update. Does your Z3 work as it should right now? Yes? Why do you even want to upgrade and risk that you could face problems you don't see at the moment?

Stop hitting the F5 button and bringing up sources saying the update will come in March or even later, which are not even backed up by any official word.
[Xperia Z3 General] bartolo5:
Actually for me there is one MAJOR feature why I want/need 5.0. With the update to Kitkat 4.4 Google essentially killed the SD card access for apps and lots of them just won't work on 4.4 if you have stuff on the SD card. My Z3 only has 16GB but I have a nice 64GB sd card sitting there that can't be used. 5.0 should change this.
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
People fail to realize that the given time frame is for the beginning of the rollout meaning only a few will get it at first and then they ramp up the OTA delivery so by the time everyone gets it, and for all versions etc it could be an extra month.
[Xperia Z3 General] cem_jimmy:
Dont care about ? only 1 thınks camera ıf they make more better thAn ı dont need anythınk else
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
Biggest change to Android since I got an Android phone 4 years ago. I'm a developer; I need to support lollipop on a range of devices.

Yes.

Yes.

See above. Also, I got a new phone expecting to have it.

I'm not hitting F5; I'm on a tablet. Official sources have said early 2015. It's early 2015.
[Xperia Z3 General] Cozmos23:
I don't care about ota, the only thing I need is an system dump.

I would never ever run an Android device without root.

Even stock Software with 300+ apps installed is like driving an Monster Truck on a small nice highway.
[Xperia Z3 General] cem_jimmy:
Sorry ıt was not about what ı wrote ı dont need a lolıpop ı just need a lıtle good news about camera thats all and also ı thınk sony has a good battery lıfe 4.4.4 so ı thınk they doesnt want ıts over wıth the 5.0 so we need to waıt good software doent matter when ıts goona release
[Xperia Z3 General] kernald:
Guess what? Next month will still be early 2015.
[Xperia Z3 General] SweDunda:
Early 2015 = 2015-01-01. 03.30. That's early...
[Xperia Z3 General] acheron350:
Official sources said february !

6 more days till end of month so we will see.
[Xperia Z3 General] slim207rc:
Yes, that they would START rollout in February, not that everybody will have the OS by then!
[Xperia Z3 General] King p1n:
Are you guys really still banking on it coming this month?
[Xperia Z3 General] thienbrand:
If it's not, I will curse Sony.
[Xperia Z3 General] King p1n:
I don't see it coming. Sony are a waste of space and they wonder why they're failing.

Although its definitely out in the wild somewhere.

Somebody was complaning about the 3 dots on the Movies app not being material then somebody else replied and said its fine on Lollipop.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/02/1...8-brings-new-material-design-icon/#more-32072
[Xperia Z3 General] acheron350:
Yeah of course but nothing has started yet and its the end of the month. Not a single sign, screenshot etc.
[Xperia Z3 General] sgiannouris:
Why not? Friday will still be February...
[Xperia Z3 General] G-FACE:
I'm still thinking that Sony might grab an Oscar and push the update tomorrow. [emoji3]
[Xperia Z3 General] slim207rc:
??????????

That's a good one, can hardly hold myself

??????????
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
11:59PM on Feb 28, they can say we kept our word lol.:)
[Xperia Z3 General] Prasad:
Then that would almost assuredly be a buggy release lol
[Xperia Z3 General] dedei:
Mine are material and I'm for sure not running lollipop [emoji23]
[Xperia Z3 General] acheron350:
screenshot pls
[Xperia Z3 General] Richie5767:
Yeah. Im pretty anxious about 5.0 too. Hoping that it includes project volta to extend the battery a bit. Mine hasn't been as great as usual; only lasting about a day. I guess it's mainly because I don't put it on stamina mode, but hoping that it'll arrive end of this month :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z3 General] Meannekes:
Volta is coming in 5.1
[Xperia Z3 General] mmoon24:
Wait, Volta wasn't released with 5.0?
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
Volta is already in 5.0, includes APIs for app developers to better manage/optimize power consumption. So basically app developers also need to update their apps for best effect.

5.1 has some more battery improvements and fixes some battery related bugs on top of other things.

Source: Google

https://developer.android.com/about/versions/android-5.0.html#Power
[Xperia Z3 General] zohaib0001:
One week before i updated my bro Galaxy S5 on 5.0 update from samsung

now he is saying he face call issues every time, so many callers complained that they hardly make a call to him

After this i dont want to 5.0 or 5.0.1 and even i did not want 5.0.2 from sony

I rather wait for 5.1 then i will update my Z3 to Lollipop
[Xperia Z3 General] Prasad:
I had this problem with the HTC One M7 on Kitkat and they fixed it in the lollipop release... Sometimes these issues are manufacturer/carrier specific and not related to generic Android.
[Xperia Z3 General] zohaib0001:
Yes you are right

But Signal drop and wifi drop is related to Lollipop 5.0 update
[Xperia Z3 General] slim207rc:
The only thing that really bugs me about sonys update method is that they're basically ALWAYS last! I've been with sony since the sony Ericsson walkman phones, had the X10, the xperia P., U, T, S, Play, Z, Z1 and now the Z3 and every single time the updates where planned early and then came 1-3 months later than was claimed by them. No wonder people jump off ?from sony when they realize that they buy their best phones but always get left behind from all the others.

You do expect A LOT more support for the newest!

It's always been like this and it buggers me too a little because, let's face it, the tell us like they did this time, February, we'll you then don't expect them to drop the update basically at the last second they have left.

It's just not the way to go doing stuff like that, if you don't know if you are capable of keeping your promise, then don't make promises!

I was really looking forward to this because it really is a major update but I'm losing interest in sony because they're always up at LAST place bringing the update to the people! A shame, really!
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means...
[Xperia Z3 General] slim207rc:
I do think I know my own language, thank you very much ?
[Xperia Z3 General] marc539:
From what I've gathered I was under impression hardware was not the issue but how image is processed software level. With new OS there was potential to get raw data from image which could be fixed with image enhancement by camera app. Similar to how hardware has nothing to do with Adobe Photo software improving a dull image. If you're certain it's a hardware issue and know that new OS will not provide these features then there's not much to look forward to camera wise.
[Xperia Z3 General] sxtester:
I did not and I'm still not saying that's a HW issue. What I'm saying is that it does not make a difference whether image processing is done under (or on top, if you will) 4.4 or 5.

On top of this, really, I'm more than happy with the picture quality of my Z3C. After all, this is a phone, not a pro camera. What can be expected from a lens as big as nail and a sensor of similar size?!
[Xperia Z3 General] poldie:
Neither of you are saying it's definitely a hardware issue, but you seem to be denying the fact that a software change can improve the situation, which is odd; of course it can (even without RAW mode).
[Xperia Z3 General] sxtester:
One has to distinguish betwen the OS layer and the sorfware/app/processing layer. Sure, a SW change can do a lot. However, this could also be done on one and the same OS. Updates to the OS (here from Android 4.4.4 -> 5), however, will not neccessarily change anything. Has anyone ever seen an App performing any better/different after an OS change? I don't.
[Xperia Z3 General] dagrim1:
An OS update won't change things but the hope is that Sony will actually spend some time optimizing and improving the processing while updating to Android5. Might be a good opportunity to give things a good overhaul.
[Xperia Z3 General] poldie:
Exactly. If the camera can give you RAW then you use that as a starting point for HDR etc, not some jpeg crap where you've already lost a generation.
[Xperia Z3 General] vittogn:
Well to be honest the new set of APIs of a new OS can make the difference.

With an OS/Kernel based RAW image support I think 3rd party camera app could produce much better result (e.g. compared to stock Sony camera app).

The new type of access to external sd card could open new opportunities.

The new version of ART runtime could bring to users better performance.
[Xperia Z3 General] poldie:
Happens all the time. You must be a Windows user, where things always get worse! :)
[Xperia Z3 General] sxtester:
Give us one, just one single example of any App/Programm that performed any better after an OS change.

BTW, I couldn't care less about my OS is called Windows, Android, Linux or whatever as long as it does the job for me. ;)
[Xperia Z3 General] poldie:
("Us"? It's just you, mate. I think the benefits of OS upgrades are well understood by most people)

How about practically every single Android app performing better using the ART runtime instead of Dalvik?
[Xperia Z3 General] sxtester:
Your point is right, yet invalid for you talk about a completely different thing.

When I wrote "performing better", then I obviously meant (and that's what the whole thread is about, therefor "us") functionally better, not performance. No one here complains about the camera to be slow but people want to see the image processing algorithms to improve. But fine, I'd be more then happy to stand corrected in case Android 5 really makes a difference over here. However, I don't expect it at all.
[Xperia Z3 General] poldie:
Like I said, Android 5 will introduce RAW mode. And look at the history of any OS. Support is added for stuff like USB, Bluetooth (different versions thereof), 4G etc etc with nearly every release. I really don't understand your point at all.
[Xperia Z3 General] zujko:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...-aosp-source-code-and-binaries-now-available/
[Xperia Z3 General] spamtrash:
RAW have some drawbacks as well... instead of 4-5MB per picture in JPEG, it will be 30-35MB in RAW. Just the picture writing time will increase, consequently slowing down the camera apk. Not to mention the rendering RAW on the phone, what is really intensive process. from this point of view, optimum solution would be if the camera would save both, jpeg and raw. what would slow down the image saving process even more.

Of course, possibility of use raw format on mobile is an advantage, however considering the sensor size (physical, not the resolution) I would not expect miracles.

Phone is a phone, and DSLR camera is completely different piece of equipment.
[Xperia Z3 General] radicans:
Any photo which hasn't undergone Sony's image processing will look like a miracle in comparison (apart from low light)! An optimized multi threaded RAW demosaic function would likely not take too long in terms of processing time. I have no illusions about 20MP being anything but a sales gimmick, but I think a really nice 8MP photo is realistic!

Regardless, it all hinges on Sony actually implementing the RAW functionality, but I have found no evidence either way.
[Xperia Z3 General] iBuzman:
lollipop but no camera yet http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2942723

[ROM][WIP]AOSP 5.0 Beta v2.0 | Lollipop for Xperia Z3 [16-11-2014]
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
The 20MP, is used to compensate for zoom, so its actually really useful when using 8MP for photos.
[Xperia Z3 General] radicans:
Cool. Does the camera not work because Sony have yet to provide the camera driver in the AOSP rom?

Sorry if it's a noob question, still trying to learn how android works at this level.
[Xperia Z3 General] iBuzman:
^^ yep I think that is the reason.
[Xperia Z3 General] danw_oz:
Yeah can't wait (bring on RAW), get rid of that horrid Sony over processing
[Xperia Z3 General] corallus:
I dunno, maybe it does enter him via the anus a little? We'll never know.

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Confirmed!

Enters his bum a little,.
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
Not really your own; based on English, but that was a long time ago.
[Xperia Z3 General] lee480:
Always is a sweeping statement. The update for Xperia Z1 came early. So did the Jelly Bean 4.1 update for Xperia T.

Sony sold a record 11.9 million phones the previous quarter. As most normal people will know, sales don't equate to profits.

Only people in XDA and phone enthusiasts are really concerned about it. Generally, you ask any Tom, **** or Harry out there and they will probably shrug off. I mean, for normal humans, there are more important things in life that matter than this. We have people spamming the F5 button every few minutes?

That also can be attributed to Sony's record sale in the previous quarter.

Nice English!

According to my calendar, February have not end and there's a solid 5 days before month end.

It's contradictory that you say Sony is "always last" (not true) and still look forward to this update.

In fact, it'll bring happiness to the Sony XDA community with the departure of whiny and annoying people. If the destruction of one brings about a greater good for the rest, why not?
[Xperia Z3 General] marsx1984:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/02/2...screenshots-leak-gives-a-glimpse-of-lollipop/

So ,basically , if you want lollipop on a Sony device in march you will have to buy the Z4 .If you don't want it that "soon" you will have to wait. This is the kind of philosophy that made their mobile division do so "good".
[Xperia Z3 General] slim207rc:
Well that's funny, because I know quite a view people who know about android 5.X.X. and heard when it is supposedly being released and are quite curious where it's at.

But maybe people here are just more interested, who knows.

And to the other statement that it's not true with the late releases, I have only once seen a real fast update and that was the jump to 4.4.4 launch with the Z3 and I've been following xda und sony since the X10.

If they've managed to kick one early, then wuhuuu, good on ya, but it's not sonys usual way.

Years on end you could see all the complaints that rivals like Samsung etc)(don't want to list everyone up) have seen updates MONTHS before sony released anything and then rather buggy aswell.

I've had enough experience with sonys firmwares to know that it's typically the same thing over and over. Yeah once or twice they have improved a little but mostly the updates came way later and then filled with bugs.

But that wasn't my point with my statement.

I just wanted to say that I understand a lot of frustration going on because something has been promised, yes even if this month still has 5 days left, why tease people so badly who really are into this, saying it will be released real shortly, like the costumer services do, then give an official statement to a certain month but then have them waiting to the very end without giving just a slight hint of what's happening.

There are people buying devices like this, they aren't really what we would call cheap, with expectations that when they spend this amount of money, they would get the best treatment out of that, especially knowing what sony has claimed, but leaving them completely in the dark. I mean, 5 days more ore less, it's still the end of this month and there isn't a hint of anything happening!

Sony themselves only last year said they WANT to compete with their top rivals and bring out software updates faster then they have done in the past, they only just said this last year OFFICIALLY, but as you can see, it's not happening. If they are facing any kind of problems because of bugs, they could at least just give this people who are really into this, a hint of what's wrong, maybe the hype would then calm down a little!?

You know what I mean?
[Xperia Z3 General] lee480:
Samsung firmwares have massive bugs too, worst than Sony. And no, nobody tracks Android update this detailed other the people here.
[Xperia Z3 General] kernald:
Sure. The Z4 will be on market in March. Absolutely. And what makes you tell that other phones won't see Lollipop by then?
[Xperia Z3 General] vittogn:
Pretty material. That's very good!

I hope the performance and stability will be consistent as well as the look!

Inviato dal mio D6603 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Xperia Z3 General] melogray:
Thank you. Couldn't have said it any better.
[Xperia Z3 General] King p1n:
Z4 isn't coming in March..

It seems to be due for a Summer release for some of the models and potentially fall for the rest of the line.
[Xperia Z3 General] persian_redhat:
Sony made me dissapointed with that dialpad and i'm not gonna anymore wait for that material design.
[Xperia Z3 General] hackarchive:
New leaks here. Finally pictures of the new interface. https://plus.google.com/110917902234679391219/posts/M6ggYFtUNPF
[Xperia Z3 General] Memnoch30:
Those are the same screenshots the guy above you posted.
[Xperia Z3 General] G-FACE:
Leaks of the supposed Z4 dual, and it was posted few post above.
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
That was the same complaint the guy above posted!
[Xperia Z3 General] marsx1984:
We only have to wait one more week to see if I am wrong or not.
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
(You can't delete posts here? The 1990's called and wants their forum software back!)
[Xperia Z3 General] Richie5767:
The update doesn't look too bad. Think people had some expectations of an overhaul. Honestly, I didn't expect much to change for 5.0 except for material design, project volta, and ART. Like the rest, I hope that it comes end of this week.
[Xperia Z3 General] realfelix:
Over 4 months for something that looks like that. Seriously, embarrassing if those screenshots are real.
[Xperia Z3 General] King p1n:
What was you really expecting...
[Xperia Z3 General] fknpwned:
Official statement.

Lollipop Update delayed.

5.0.2 will be rolling out in mid of march.

http://www.androidpit.de/sony-xperia-z3-android-update
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
It's encrypted. What's the source for this?
[Xperia Z3 General] user91:
So, for those not speaking German, they (authors of the site) apparently "talked to Sony". No source, no document, nothing.
[Xperia Z3 General] fknpwned:
Not official, my bad.
[Xperia Z3 General] King p1n:
Iheres no official statement...

I dont expect it this month though.
[Xperia Z3 General] Beno@:
one of their "contact from sony" (they don't name the person) ...

However i'm not surprised: i would expect sony's apps to be updated before Android and until now we haven't seen any update for major apps like album...
[Xperia Z3 General] King p1n:
More?

http://www.zhihu.com/question/27742575/answer/40313822?group_id=553329837444472832

Ugly battery status icon especially battery and phone icon still ugly imo
[Xperia Z3 General] Cozmos23:
Its about time for an system dump!

And well even there was a life sign Form Sony.
[Xperia Z3 General] xperian.ir:
Compare Sony's UI on lollipop and kitkat

http://xperian.ir/مقایسه-رابط-کاربری-اختصاصی-اکسپریا-در/
[Xperia Z3 General] corallus:
More to the point, that's not z3 stock wallpaper, that could be Z4 wallpaper ported over.
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
Apparently with 5.1 Google will have each dialer be a different color for dual sim phones.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-different-dialer-colors-sim-dual-sim-phones/