yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z3 General] Cozmos23:
Burn! hehe

Btw. "Soon" :)
[Xperia Z3 General] nolihowell:
im simply stating my idea friend and plz learn to read carefully am i refering to him as the person who took the screenshot. i was refering to the screenshot.
[Xperia Z3 General] Dwayne01:
Apparently the fix for this will be coming in the future release of android.
[Xperia Z3 General] Playdough96:
Gotta say that Sony did a great job of keeping this update a secret and not getting any leaks out to the public. I really want to see what changes Sony have made. Hope they keep it even more stock and follow the Material Design guidelines in every part of the ROM :)
[Xperia Z3 General] jonmorris:
One thing I don't like is the clear icon (for notifications) being under all the notifications. I'd prefer it in a fixed location, as before.
[Xperia Z3 General] vittogn:
It would be a dream!

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[Xperia Z3 General] hackarchive:
I pray they leave Google's stock dialer and clock apps.These two on Sony's skin are by far the most hideous!
[Xperia Z3 General] sxtester:
Not exactly sure what you're praying for since at least clock on the Nexus is nowhere close to exciting but a very plain and simple App.

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I second this. Further, e.g. Dolphin browser is unusable on Android 5.0.2 as it crashes about every 10 minutes. Could of course also be the App but under 4.4.4 it's working fine so I think the memory leak is evident.
[Xperia Z3 General] slim207rc:
Lollipop ? is so buggy that Google has already announced a complete makeover for February, so why rush sony to release the buggy sh**, excuse my good English.

I know patches and tweaks can save things, but it's been said, that not even patches and tweaks can help here anymore.

Let's see if Google manages to fix this mess up before releasing that horror to our phones.
[Xperia Z3 General] barondebxl:
Couldn't agree more
[Xperia Z3 General] Memnoch30:
So true!
[Xperia Z3 General] vittogn:
I would add settings menu and status bar.

Then (as navigation buttons can be modified with themes) we could really have a GPE Z3 with valuable Sony addition, speed and stability.

Let's see. We should know everything in less than one day with Sony key note at CES.

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[Xperia Z3 General] sxtester:
Absolutely true. In fact, I rolled back a Nexus 7 from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4 last evening for it was just plain unusable (slow and Apps crashing after 10 minutes of use). So let's wait...
[Xperia Z3 General] Memnoch30:
I'm sure you have the original N7. The NAND issue reared its ugly head on Lollipop. The storage is just too slow for it. I rolled it back too. My 2013 N7 is just perfectly fine at least.
[Xperia Z3 General] burg1975:
All apps crashing??
[Xperia Z3 General] jonmorris:
My 2012 Nexus 7 is unusable and since getting a new iMac I haven't installed the tools to flash 5.0.2 and I am just waiting instead - but no OTA update yet. Luckily it's just a spare tablet I've hung on to, but boy would I be upset if I was still using it and had to endure the slowdowns and crashes.

Very disappointed that even 5.0.2 doesn't seem to have fixed things. What a disaster this tablet has turned out to be. It is worse now for me as I've used it more as a media player for my son, and that means filling the storage - and doing that just makes it even slower.

Meanwhile my LTE Nexus 7 (2013) hasn't had Android 5 at all yet.
[Xperia Z3 General] sxtester:
Only those that consume a lot of memory like Navigation with big maps and browser with a number of tabs open. Now, back to 4.4.4, it's all fine again. By the way, I've also not noticed any and all performance improvement due to ART vs. Dalvik.
[Xperia Z3 General] charlatan01:
Really, the only thing I've been looking forward to with LP is a solid Bluetooth stack, which apparently still isn't right. I've had my share of KK problems with BT (especially in custom ROMS).

I am in no hurry.
[Xperia Z3 General] mellomelon45:
Sony announced that they will roll out lollipop in February
[Xperia Z3 General] unmaskedfalesh:
yeah..stupid sony...they should have probably started before the Jan ends..but those people are too busy promoting and releasing 'THE INTERVIEW'...
[Xperia Z3 General] mmoon24:
I hope the T-Mo version gets it ASAP. Carriers tend to hold these things back.
[Xperia Z3 General] charlatan01:
,,, so much anger for an update that's broken? Yeesh. Take your time Sony. At your slowest, your updates are light speed compared to the likes of Oppo :cool:
[Xperia Z3 General] radko93:
Similar posts

"Lollipop coming to Xperia this week", similar posts :D
[Xperia Z3 General] realfelix:
Finalising since March 2. Great Sony, great.
[Xperia Z3 General] marcin.bozek:
I am reading carefully. I know that you were referring to screenshot . But you have also stated the screenshot is fake, because there was no downloading/updating icon on statusbar...
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
lol! As the lollipop delay continues, tempers fray! As always, grammar is the first to suffer, closely followed by the comprehension and construction of basic English sentences! I just hope we can all remain friends throughout this harrowing experience; that, surely, is the important thing!
[Xperia Z3 General] marcin.bozek:
As always, there must be at least one guy who thinks that all world is 'murrica, and those, who can't grammar properly are just lazy or dumb.
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
They certainly have a lot to answer for!
[Xperia Z3 General] Solpadein:
You will wonder how many people speaks russian and another languages here, but they keep talking english with respect to you and another like you.
[Xperia Z3 General] marcin.bozek:
As far as I know, XDA is not strictly about proper English, people from around the world are trying hard to be understandable here, and mocking at their grammar is just low.
[Xperia Z3 General] Shaom:
So...you think we will get lollipop to the end of march?
[Xperia Z3 General] danmak89:
Well guys and girls, we've been patient this long (most of us anyway) and T-Mobile themselves have the update for their own testing in the USA, so I'm fairly certain it's just a case of the generic release making its way out very shortly. I'm sure we can hold on a little bit longer. It's not like there's anything actually wrong with 4.4.4 on the device. It still performs exceedingly well.
[Xperia Z3 General] Prasad:
Nope. At the time of my posting this, if you look closely, t-mobile states that the Z3 lollipop upgrade is under "Manufacturer development", meaning it's still all down to Sony and their amazingly endless "finalizing" abilities.

Sent from the inner sanctum of my mind.
[Xperia Z3 General] danmak89:
Ah crumbs, you're right. My mistake. Well I have lollipop on my tablet, so I'm happy to wait a little longer. I think the thing that annoys me the most is no solid time frame. I mean 'soon' is just poor from Sony. I'm sure a lot of people would be more comfortable in their wait if Sony just named a day or a week for rollout.
[Xperia Z3 General] Prasad:
They did. It was supposed to be last month..

Sent from the inner sanctum of my mind.
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
No, they named a month and then missed it. It's a development thing. Clearly they've experienced issues, which have pushed it back past February. What programming or management principle do you imagine will allow them to give a date? Until they've managed to satisfy all their testing it's impossible to state when whatever problems they've found will be fixed. They're better off just saying "soon" or "when it's ready" and ignoring the whining. The problem isn't that they keep saying soon; it's that they're just not as efficient at dealing with the update and resulting problems as just about every other manufacturer out there.
[Xperia Z3 General] CJ900RR:
Still no answers, and just now Sony announced that they will lay off 1000 of their 2000 strong staff att Sony mobile in the city of Lund, Sweden [emoji21]
[Xperia Z3 General] realfelix:
Poor Sony...
[Xperia Z3 General] shtepsel:
YES, end of March 2016
[Xperia Z3 General] parthsony2000:
This thread feels like TV series The Walking Dead. Everyone is looking for cure and one by one they are turning into zombie.

Make sure you have popcorn and enjoy. LOL ??
[Xperia Z3 General] kernald:
As usual in IT: 20% of the time for 80% of the work, and 80% of the time for 20% of small issues…
[Xperia Z3 General] XxSilent22xX:
All I know is i better get lollipop this month or this phones history.
[Xperia Z3 General] Newt182:
Does the pope poop on the moon?
[Xperia Z3 General] unmaskedfalesh:
I think sammy n htc paid money to sony for delaying the update... So that they can take over market.. Also sony needed capital after loss n hacking...
[Xperia Z3 General] Krokogator:
Had chance to see update on S4, and actually had owned Note 4. On both battery got worse a bit, performance in some parts got better in some worse, many note 4 users lost 10k points in their antutu score so they were on par with Z3 users :D . The problem is many people want update asap and then they complain how bad 5.0 is... I'm really happy with how much better Sony's software is than Samsung's one, and will be much happier to see month later update but much more polished up than the actual one on Samsung devices.

Keep calm and wait for update. If you want to leave Sony for not rolling up fast update with bad battery life, performance etc. - LEAVE NOW and stop complaining :)
[Xperia Z3 General] warface:
:eek:
[Xperia Z3 General] scoder:
I think your conclusions are ridiculous. Sony doesn't have the market share that Samsung or LG have, not even close. They are not a threat to their market share, and it would be a waste of money for any company to pay off a delay to Sony's release schedule. HTC is in the same boat as Sony with very low market share and profit margins, so they're not in a financial position to be bribing anyone.

Additionally, why would they delay an update for a few weeks? Do you really think that would help Samsung's marketshare?

People in this thread don't seem to understand software cycles at all. You build, you test, you rebuild with fixes, you test, you rebuild with fixes, you test. This is the entire alpha stage and can take months depending on anything from developing new drivers to functionality bugs in the code. Then you move onto the beta stage, where you release the software (in a hopeful final build) to a select amount of people, usually employees or a subsect of users. If the beta reports are good and no bugs are found in the field (which never happens), then you release a soak to a broader audience and wait to hear any potential negative feedback. If the update is acting erratically or bricking some phones, you stop the soak. If the first soak is smooth, you release soak after soak (each one getting broader) until all users have the update.

Right now, Sony is in the beta stage. We know that Swedish users have Lollipop and are testing, all we can do is be hopeful that no showstopping bugs are found in the field testing.

Source: Software Developer/Tester for a large US satellite firm.
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
etc. etc.

Uh...I assumed he was joking!
[Xperia Z3 General] kernald:
You made my day.
[Xperia Z3 General] scoder:
I don't think so, some of his other posts are about how Sony is deliberately delaying the update for one reason or another.
[Xperia Z3 General] lee480:
LG's market share isn't any larger compared to Sony. Maybe in the states, but outside her, slightly, but by and and large, no differences.
[Xperia Z3 General] AnteusFogg:
Public static void main ()

{

While (1! = 0) {

If (lollipop.released = true)

System.out.println("This is soooo bugged why didn't Sony do better testing this is unbelievable I won't purchase Sony ever again")

Else

System.out.println("Come on Sony everybody has released their (buggy) Lollipop why are you always the last goddam it! I'm never buying Sony ever again!"

}

}
[Xperia Z3 General] Cozmos23:
Sounds more like some self made coders with html experience.

Like

The Company I work for always has a deadline.

If it can't be reached you'd better have some good reasons or you can cook coffee till you quit the job by yourself.
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
While (1! = 0)

This is false so no code should be emitted within the braces.

If it did, somehow, though...

lollipop.released = true

This will assign true to lollipop.released every time, and always take the first case. You need two equals signs to test for equality.

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[Xperia Z3 General] lee480:
import random

##pythonRocks

def main(perimeter, repetition):

while perimeter is True:

if repetition ==1:

return "This is soooo bugged why didn't Sony do better testing this is unbelievable I won't purchase Sony ever again"

else:

return "Come on Sony everybody has released their (buggy) Lollipop why are you always the last goddam it! I'm never buying Sony ever again!"

main(True,random.randint(1,2))
[Xperia Z3 General] scoder:
Which is why I assume a showstopping bug was found if they missed the deadline. That's the only time a deadline is missed in any company I've worked for. I'd much rather see the release bug-free than have battery drain, app crashes, etc. I think these are what you call "good reasons" in your post.

It's one thing to develop one application, one API, etc., but we're talking about an entire operating system getting pushed back mere weeks and people are losing their ****.
[Xperia Z3 General] unmaskedfalesh:
Well indeed i was joking but u don't seem to get the humour...my fren...Sony is doing what no one knows...neither u nor me..and..no one in this entire thread..have any clue..so whether u joke about their situation and pass comment or type a long article explaining the process...sony will still do what they are...doing..n nothing is gonna change it...
[Xperia Z3 General] AnteusFogg:
I know nothing about Java, just Googled to get some basics :D

Thought I'd get more bash by putting Vb code :D

Anyway it's just my way of saying people will never be satisfied and it's tiring...
[Xperia Z3 General] Sindroid:
€50.00 that Lollipop is arriving within 2 weeks..
[Xperia Z3 General] Akiainavas:
In Java, doesn't the operator '!=' mean 'not equal to' ? The expression reads:

While 1 does not equal 0

Since 1 is never equal to 0 and the parameters are constant in this case, this argument will always be true ? The lack of loop exit, an infinite loop etc. are a different matter though.
[Xperia Z3 General] vittogn:
Great explanation.

I think a big point missing here is resources: the more engineers you have on updates, the faster you'll get out with a quality sw.

It is likely LG, Samsung, Motorola and Google put more resources into it.

The dev preview got out in June 2014 and we are well beyond 90 days after final code publish today!

A sw support has to be both right first time and timely, to be called good!

All in my opinion.

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[Xperia Z3 General] sfkaudi:
http://www.justaboutphones.com/sony-xperia-z3-z2-z3-compact-android-lollipop-update/
[Xperia Z3 General] cem_jimmy:
Is that true???
[Xperia Z3 General] sfkaudi:
We can only hope
[Xperia Z3 General] Aronuser:
I just saw this on the web, not sure if this has been posted already.
[Xperia Z3 General] cschmitt:
This stuff is getting hilarious! Almost jumped off a building this morning because I didn't have the OTA but decided to come back inside to see if there were any new posts in this thread.

Seriously, the build at MWC was dated Feb. 11th and we've seen Sony release about ~2 weeks after a build. (Last update was built Nov. 25th and released Dec. 11th?) That would have put them on target for a Feb. 25th or so release. Must have found a show stopper that required a new build.
[Xperia Z3 General] Prasad:
Source?
[Xperia Z3 General] Aronuser:
Sony Xperia Z3 group at Facebook
[Xperia Z3 General] ryanraven:
Highly unlikely, source ?
[Xperia Z3 General] cschmitt:
Well, it does say 'make believe' right there in the pic.
[Xperia Z3 General] Prasad:
I was only able to find a Facebook "Page", not a group? Link?
[Xperia Z3 General] persian_redhat:
Sony's india R&D team as mentioned in the post above. I hope it be true
[Xperia Z3 General] pchetan2:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1579861912240627/?fref=nf

link to group :)
[Xperia Z3 General] sfkaudi:
Look at post 1223
[Xperia Z3 General] itsjustJOH:
Guys

DO NOT TRUST

that Indian blog site (justaboutphones), or any other blog sites (so I won't be called racist) who claim they have sources inside Sony.
[Xperia Z3 General] MarcoReckless:
Why?
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
Well, what's their track record for accurate news? Or is it just one guy typing stuff he's hoping to get hits so he can make money from ads (well, from people not running adblock plus, anyway)
[Xperia Z3 General] itsjustJOH:
They (were one of those who) kept saying that the Xperia SP would get official 4.4 update and even posted photos of "leaked documents from Sony" of the timeline of updates, just like the one posted here. The way I see it, they are taking advantage of how much people are impatiently waiting for the 5.0 update (just like how much were waiting for the SP 4.4 update) so as to gather as much clicks and, in turn, more ad revenue. In short, clickbait.
[Xperia Z3 General] Farooq95:
Yup I remember those days with xperia sp. Got Trolled like a sheep for awhile.
[Xperia Z3 General] SkyS1gn:
I hope its true... :rolleyes:
[Xperia Z3 General] Akiainavas:
Don't get your hopes up, mate. Most definitely fake. Hopefully it will roll this week anyway...
[Xperia Z3 General] radko93:
Android 5.1

Android 5.1 is out. I really doubt we will get it before June. Multi SIM feature would be very useful for dual SIM Z3 mode.
[Xperia Z3 General] gonzal86:
Sony upload "Dot Themes"

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-1jQJcHSJqabkFPZ3BNdzAtNXM&authuser=0

Xperia blog

http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/08/dot-xperia-themes-available-to-download/

Im download Blue v2 and accept. Looks like lollipop :) buttons, and same colors looks like material design :) im install on z3 orginal kitkat 4.4.4, dont see any bugs.

Teal v2 looks nice, change on/off wifi and bluetooth in settings.
[Xperia Z3 General] MScorpionZ:
Maybe, Sony awaited release Android 5.1, because the new firmware is already on Android 5.1?
[Xperia Z3 General] vittogn:
No way!

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[Xperia Z3 General] MScorpionZ:
Why?
[Xperia Z3 General] Webern:
LOL! Maybe. Or maybe they're waiting for 5.2, or 5.2.1, or 5.2.2.

"Android 5.1 Lollipop also provides enhancements such as the ability to join Wi-Fi networks"

Yeah, I've been waiting for join a wifi network for ages! No more slow 3g for me!
[Xperia Z3 General] gonzal86:
I dont think so. I think first sony upload 5.0.2 and next 5.1, mayby month later :)
[Xperia Z3 General] MScorpionZ:
OK, let's see :)

I am an optimist :)
[Xperia Z3 General] kernald:
You have no idea what you're talking about, right? You don't make a baby in one month even if you have 9 moms. And the dev preview was indeed a Dev preview. There's a reason for the changing of API level between the preview and the final release. That's because the preview is unsuitable for daily use. The 90 days delay has nothing to do with a technical preview.
[Xperia Z3 General] lee480:
Justaboutphones has a track record of posting fake stuff, their pictures are all self created!
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
"Looks like" India maybe among the first to get 5.0.X. As usual take it with a grain of salt.:)

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Loll...y-being-prepped-for-roll-out-in-India_id67040
[Xperia Z3 General] Huey85:
phonarena got that news from justaboutphones, who are known to leak fake news/supporting images. poor form from phonearena for not validating the information first.
[Xperia Z3 General] raviboy100:
just about phones owner is a sad person, what ia the purpose of generating false information.... it just wastes time and efford for both readers and writers.
[Xperia Z3 General] cschmitt:
Would someone please update the thread title so we can start complaining about why we don't have 5.1 yet?
[Xperia Z3 General] unmaskedfalesh:
Isn't that update is available via pc companion first and later after a month ota is released...that article at justaboutphones states directly jumping to ota release....i don't have much hope but lets see..
[Xperia Z3 General] augie7107:
This can't be good:

http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIw_PD64SA
[Xperia Z3 General] unmaskedfalesh:
Indeed it is not..think about all those 1000 ppl working at sony and now dismissed ..also the works will be really slow at sony now only remaining half the manpower...
[Xperia Z3 General] xerxess:
Look at picture..

Sony indo update post how to update to lolipop and said Z3 will get lolipop at week 12, i think that schedule for indonesia region..

Maybe other country can get faster than this schedule..
[Xperia Z3 General] xxquicksh0txx:
Less jobs doesn't necessarily mean less production. A lot of companies are refining the ways things operate with more efficient methods. Look at the recent Microsoft lay-offs.

It sucks for over 1000 people to lose there jobs, but if they can get the same output with half of the people it makes a lot of sense. Especially with how 'good' their mobile department is doing.
[Xperia Z3 General] danw_oz:
For sure, terrible news, if you are a Sony employee right now I am sure they are stuck in limbo not knowing what is going to happen work wise, generally that tends to make people less excited about working 100%
[Xperia Z3 General] Cozmos23:
Or working harder to not being outsourced.

And Microsoft is everything now but efficient.

Just look at the update derps they released and Windows 10 is more like a stepback.

Nokia once had a factory here and their phones were very popular.

Then they closed the factory and no one bought anything of them so they left the market.

Look where they are now. Only derps are using their phones.
[Xperia Z3 General] pchetan2:
Android Lollipop to roll from next week

Android Lollipop to roll from next week says Sony Mobile Indonesia; brief changelog detailed

Say Hello to Android 5.0 – Lollipop

Android 5.0 – Lollipop available for your Xperia through the Center Updates, upgrades and enjoy new features, improved performance and interesting applications.

New features available to you when you upgrade:

• intelligent user interface – Enjoy a bold new user interface, graphics and easy to understand, with Android 5.0 Lollipop. Inspired by the design of Google and the expertise of Sony, every detail is very beautiful and interactive.

• Improved screen lock – Access all your notifications at your fingertips. With a simple swipe shortcuts and intelligent notification card, you do not need to swipe away.

• Support multi-user – Create customized user profiles and guest mode on the same device. Do you want to profile you uninterrupted for work or personal profile to play, you can stay focused on what is most important.

• optimal storage – With Android 5.0 – Lollipop you do not have to sacrifice you to save storage applications.Easy to install and transfer the application to the external SD card and enjoy the flexibility and higher performance

http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/03/1...ny-mobile-indonesia-brief-changelog-detailed/
[Xperia Z3 General] cem_jimmy:
I dont belıeve anymore to sooooony
[Xperia Z3 General] King p1n:
Looks like they were accurate
[Xperia Z3 General] unmaskedfalesh:
I won't believe them unless i see it running in my Xperia... N til then..do hell with them..
[Xperia Z3 General] vittogn:
So if Motorola and the others took less than 9 months to have a baby, it is likely they are dogs!

Seriously: I'm not in this business, I struggle to think that more resources are not better that working with constraints.

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[Xperia Z3 General] Jiyeon90:
Wow I was not expecting the move apps to SD feature, this is great!
[Xperia Z3 General] realfelix:
Really this is a shame.. Saying beginning of 2015 and then pushing it back to the very last day is Embarassing.
[Xperia Z3 General] Cozmos23:
The only thing I want is quick unlock for lockscreen