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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] garwynn:
Thread Closed

To all,

This thread will be closed due to someone attempting to collect the pledges other than a person who achieved the bounty goals.

Sorry folks but we can't have that going on here, regardless of intent.

Those that sent money, I recommend contacting OP for it to be returned or contact PayPal for assistance.

All others, when someone achieves the goals you will know where to send it.

If anyone would like to pledge after this I recommend contacting the OP by PM.

You can also contact me by PM to be added. Either way it should get to me.

I will update the list as time allows but a minimum of once a week or sooner as conditions warrant.

Edit: Updated 11/19 11:00 am

I am open to someone else other than the OP starting a new thread to maintain the list under

very specific conditions

.

If you would be interested in this please PM me and I will be happy to explain further.

Please contact me by PM if you have any questions about this action.

Thank you for your cooperation and support of XDA Developers.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jam10238:
I'm in for $10.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
I am doing so brother!

Thank you guys!

Sure man, I really want to get attention to this thread.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JokerAssassin833:
I am cheap and poor. $10 root. $25 no knox trip.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
Added. Thank you sir!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Conkrete:
$20 for any kind of root

And could someone explain the benefits of the "No Knox Tripping"?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] AcquiredIntellect:
It's the security software that counts how many times it been reflashed....pretty much means anything over zero=no more warrenty...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
If we are able to root and not trip knox...

Teh Goods

Than we have no loss of warranty when rooting / flashing recovery.

Teh Bads

if knox is able to be hacked, then so is your device.

Knox was created for security of one device, keeping it locked down so if your phone was stolen, then the thief is unable to restore the phone...thus leaving it a paper weight...I DON'T believe in this since we have IMEI blocking now.

These are the only 2 things I understand about it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ShrekOpher:
This is for root only? Not for unlocked boot loader? Is there a thread that has the boot loader yet, or do we think that is impossible?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] leo_cheng:
I am in 10 dollar for root
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
I believe root is much easier, and boot loaders usually come after root.

Added, thank you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jyokota:
Count me in for $15 (root)+ $15 (knox)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ShrekOpher:
To my understanding unlocking the boot loader still had not happened on the note 3. I am concerned it may never happen on the Note 4 either. Might be a deal breaker.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
so 30 if they can get it without knox trip?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Ic3Ph3rn0:
Im in $20 for root.

Can we crowdfund this project? Like on gofundme, to reach more people?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] papa10002000:
I'm in!

$25 (root only) / $50 (w/Knox)

Thank you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Superspiker:
I'm in for $20 for any root and $20 for no trip knox.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
so do you mean 40 for no trip knox? or just 20 for either....

No Trip Knox is MUCH harder, and generally people wanting that will pay more for it than just root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Superspiker:
$20 for just root. $40 for no trip knox. Sorry I should have been more clear.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] russelm:
I'll put in 25 for either
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
Got y'all! Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] A}{E:
I will definitely pledge $20 for Root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] b3asty:
Count me in folks. 20 bones for root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] freebee269:
Add me to the list of root for $20. Thank you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] optimusv45:
People should feel free to pledge for bootloader unlock/workaround. While root is great what will be better is ultimately be able to flash roms
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] raiu:
Generaly root is easier to aquire. Bootloader will stay locked. I dont think anyone has been able to do that since knox was installed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] vjoom:
I'm in $40 for root
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ymojica:
#47

I will donate $35.00 for root without tripping Knox
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] optimusv45:
I understand this. Att note 3 has a workaround. Can always dream
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] sandman7793:
I'll pledge $20 for root, $30 without tripping Knox.

As for a work around, I came from note 3 and hashcode had stopped development on safestrap (boot loader work around) so hopefully a dev can pick it up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Justy2020:
$15 for root
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ryudosama:
I am in for $15 for root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Yoji0808:
i'm in $20 root/ 10 no trip knox
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] silentecho13:
Mods: Please make this a sticky.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] optimusv45:
Should until goals are achieved
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] fbauto1:
In

25 root

30 no Knox trip
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] oreice:
30
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] lock10:
JLock: $50 for Root and No Trip Knox!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] torreon901:
20 for root...

20 for not trip knox.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
[MENTION=5510396]torreon901[/MENTION]

You must tell me if your giving 40 for knox or just 20 also....

[MENTION=6100502]Yoji0808[/MENTION]

your doing 30 for knox? or only 10?

Generally you would donate more for a no knox trip as it is much harder to achieve.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] torreon901:
Yes.. only 20
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
Thanks!

Updated the OP!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] soraxd:
gosh root goes for as much as an unlocked bootloader these days.. what have we come to.. we used to hear about root achieved before the devices even came out.. well might as well do my part as well..

soraxd pledging $10 for root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] K4get:
OK another $20.00 for Knox too

RAW note 4 with XDA PREMIUM HD
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] chronicaust:
Pledge for $100. I donated the same to towelroot so hopefully we can get some love for this beast. <3
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Yoji0808:
sorry.

20 for root

30 for knox
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
Wow, thank you sir!!!

Updated.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] S3toNote4:
Count me in for 50 root and 100 knox
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mcalise133:
Would it be safe to assume that this root method would work for vzw also??
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] getpierced:
20 here for root.

30 for no knox
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
AWESOME!!! thank you!

I am not knowledgeable enough to give you an answer to this sir, you could always create a bounty over in your vzw section :D and just keep checking back here if you would like.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ShrekOpher:
Will someone post a thread to start donations for the boot loader as well?

Getting root on this device will mean nothing as soon as Lollipop rolls out. In order to have any custom ROM \ Root future for this device unlocking the boot loader needs to be the focus.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
I may be wrong, but I thought you needed root to load a ROM?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] basicmods:
I agree here - root will be broken again (and maybe for good from what I've read) as soon as Lollipop comes round. So if we want lollipop and root; we should work on the bootloader.

I think the problem here is that chances are for the bootloader to get unlocked, you will have to have root. So it seems logical to have root before bootloader. Ultimately, both will be needed.

That being said, i'm in for 20 for root and another 20 for no knox trip.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] sandman7793:
OK guys. This thread needs to stay focused on the donations so a mod don't need to clean it. But all we need is root and safestrap. In the note 3 section root was achieved, safestrap was achieved, nice fellow at best buy uploaded the Odin files, we all updated to 4.4.2 through unofficial channels. Then we could ultimately restore to jellybean from kitkat and go back and forth without a trip to best buy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Borgador:
I will add $25 for root and another $25 for root with no knox trip
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] optimusv45:
You need a custom recovery to flash roms
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] sdlopez83:
In for 25 and 25
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spinedoc:
$30 for no trip to Knox.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
so 50 if no knox trip is achieved? or just 25 for any root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] K4get:
I was on the ground floor with HtcOneXL early on we hex edited a file to get superid 11111111 and with root we unlocked the bootloader

so that being said I'm in for $100.00 for unlocked bootloader

RAW note 4 with XDA PREMIUM HD

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I am a 55 year old fart who wants to play around with and customize my phone that I paid $700.00 for the way I want.

as a matter of fact update me to $50.00 for root & $50.00 for Knox

good luck devas

RAW note 4 with XDA PREMIUM HD
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] HydroSkillet:
Lets please keep this dedicated to root. Chances are there will never be a bootloader unlock for this phone. If you're lucky maybe a safe strap. I've used many devices including the OneXL, this phone is completely different. I'll be happy with root. As many have said with 5.0 we'll probably lose everything as is.

Put me down for 10.00 root 20.00 root without knox trip. The bloatware these days is unbelievable.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] sdlopez83:
25 for Knox trip 50 for no knox trip
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] kevinallen4325:
Put me down for 15. I don't care if it trips the counter or not
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] trailwalker:
I'm in for $10.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] DamageSource:
I'm in for $15
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Sublim3_Tilt:
I got $10 on Root and $20 for Root without Knox Trip.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] brandon5491:
I'm in for $100 for root, $150 for no knox trip, $200 to unlock
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] soraxd:
might as well pin this to development section
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] silentecho13:
Pardon my asking, but have any devs outside this forum been made aware of the bounty?

Could we possibly have an Android news outlet to put up a story about the bounty to raise awareness?

I feel like we're somewhat of a closed group and capable developers just don't know about what's being organized here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] zoso28:
$20 for root, $30 with Knox untriped
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] JoelJr78:
Put me down $20 for root and $30 for no knox.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
Thanks all! Added and updated OP

I second this, I an in contact with 3 developers that have achieved root before. However if we could have others from here posting our forum link to this post to help raise awareness. It would be a big step.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] 1brainsurgeon:
$100 if root is acquired in the next 4 days. This N4 is going back if not.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] sdlopez83:
Check that, prob moving to Tmobile in the next few days. I've had it with this att locking things down
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] theorioles33:
SO GLAD I chose to purchase the TMO version and unlock it. TMO version already has root and recovery. Never buying another AT&T phone again.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] sdlopez83:
I was checking in NY, they have faster data, and availability. Not to mention cheaper plan with unlimited Non throttling unless you use p2p then It says you get throttled. Either way they are friendlier with phone unlocking as we know.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
please stay on topic here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] McCHillinNo1:
I think I'll wait till android 5.0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] chronicaust:
Cmon guys let's amp it up! If we're at $10,000 by Halloween I'll up my donation to $200.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] K4get:
Iam thinking the same thing. back it goes.

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posted bounty on twitter

https://mobile.twitter.com/HtcOneXL/status/525484609614516225

*<{ ; ¬)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] silentecho13:
I shared this bounty on Reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/galaxynote4/comments/2k6gne/600_bounty_for_bootloader_unlock_1800_for_root/

OP: Please put me down for $30 for a no-knox trip root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] deeken:
Are any of the Dev's you are talking to working on this? Anything to give us a little hope?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
They are "looking into" it. No word or promises yet. BUT this looks promising...

http://mobilesecurityares.blogspot.com/2014/10/why-samsung-knox-isnt-really-fort-knox.html?m=1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] rcracer_tx:
Ill throw in $20 for a root... Not really concerned on KNOX being tripped or not.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] browniegirl:
I'll throw in 30! Gogogogo
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] oneofthemoment:
Put me down for $100 for root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] kirandeore:
willing to help

I'm a windows developer but I would definitely give it a try if some android dev will help me give an overview. I have always bought international versions of phones in last 2 years but this time I bought a at&t note 4 blindly without expecting that at&t would lock boot loaders.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
This link is our best overview so far.

http://mobilesecurityares.blogspot.com/2014/10/why-samsung-knox-isnt-really-fort-knox.html?m=1

Updated OP
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] silentecho13:
Please do!

The more devs we have on this, the more talented mindpower!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gregro611:
$20 for root please!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] UniX1rm:
Root $30
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] chrisdaniels33:
Put me down for $20
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gbox85:
Put me down for non knox trip 20
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] fix-this!:
not gonna happen. look how long it took for the s4, s5 and note 3. this is why i stopped buying sammy products. if you want an unlocked boot loader and aosp roms, buy a international or tmobile variant.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] C-LoS53k:
Root At&t Note 4

I would donate as well. For now i can donate 10 as an incentive.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Nizda1:
Put me down for 20$, 30$(knox not tripped). I am a network security engineer/researcher but my work focuses mostly on linux/bsd, How can I get in contact with the devs who are working on this, so I don't waste time trying things others have?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] codya321:
Put me down for $30
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ceelo2008:
30 for root
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jiffyj:
$20 root
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tripleteamed:
Down for 20 and 20
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] davekane:
my pledge also for note4 att

25.00 to root and not trip knox.:)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ZPaul2Fresh8:
$20 here. Don't care if Knox is affected.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] kirandeore:
Do you have any documentation for bootloaders? I'm also looking online to learn more about bootloaders
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Sopleris:
im happy to support this, $25 for root and $35 for no trip.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ShrekOpher:
Bounty for boot loader, includes link with information on bootloaders

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2915037

BOUNTY Boot loader Unlock
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] eric62451:
I will give 20 and 20
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] wramos93:
$20 for root $50 no knox trip
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] eldedo:
add another 25.00
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] andy_d0:
In for $25 for Root without tripping knox.

Forgot that 4.4 locked down the sdcard. Super annoying
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jacklex13:
Put me down for 20
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] BrianBaker:
Put me in for a $20 spot....message me when ya need to collect
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Gval2015:
At&t note 4 root no knox trip.

Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me root my note 4 for no knox trip. thank you
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] deeken:
LOL. you posted your actual email on this forum? Did you bother reading anything about this phone before you bought it? smh
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] BigTone15:
I'm in for $10 for a root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TheeContender:
Pledge

I also would like to contribute $20 for root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Gval2015:
note 4 root

Why what's wrong with it? How does this paying thing work? Is it everyone is trying to donate till a certain amount has been reached. Or should I sell my phone what your saying?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
Are y'all offering extra for no knox or just the same for root or no knox? Please be more specific.

Everyone is offering how much they are willing to donate once these things. It will be months before we get root.

UPDATED OP!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] eric62451:
Same for root and no knox
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Simsron1:
$50 for no knox trip before 2015
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ohioboyo:
I'm in for $50, and $70 for no knox trip. Additionally I'll throw another $20 for a boot recovery like CWM.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] faslane:
ummmmm that's what this forum is for...there's NO root or custom recovery yet.

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it's in the OP...

---------- Post added at 04:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:16 PM ----------

Correct, but MAYBE a Safestrap or other method too....one can hope.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Gval2015:
product1vi1ty

OK so do I have do donate like 70 bucks like some people are donating on this site? I can donate maybe like $30 I don't know if I can do $70. Do you think the root will be available before February? Sorry for all the questions I'm kind of new and I know you don't have to answer all of them because you have your own problems. I just don't know a lot about Android rooting and stuff because I was an apple jailbreaker and it's a lot different from android rooting, lol a lot more confusing and difficult. Also someone emailed me claiming me he spent time making a root for the at&t note 4 and is saying he wants some money for the time he spent.thank you for reading
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] do_not_reply:
Gentlemen,

Please mark me down for $100 usd for root & $100 for no Knox trip.

Respectfully,

Do_not_reply
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Nexii:
Guys, I truly believe we are going for the wrong thing here. We should take this bounty and put it all towards getting the damn, bootloader unlocked before lollipop hits, once lollipop hits and we do not have a unlocked bootloader, you can kiss root good bye, and keep your stock Note 4 forever.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] optimusv45:
True
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ShrekOpher:
You can donate 5 if you want any bit helps

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Finally people are starting to figure it out. This is TRUTH!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] kevyd:
I'd throw $35 @ root
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] chrisdaniels33:
Yes we need the bootloader unlocked, with that unlocked, rooting will come. Gaining root means little to nothing without the bootloader being unlocked, but I think a lot of us thinks it's one in the same...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] AcquiredIntellect:
Honestly I think unlocking the bootloader is too much to ask for at this time.....so if a dev comes up with root and no unlocked bootloader thsts awesome can't really argue with that I mean just don't update it keep root if we can get it it would be alot more feasible to do that then unlock the bootloader right now....if we get root like a safestrap we can maybe if someone's time is worth it to port a 5.0 rom anyways just not an Ota update which I would like to have anyways and stay away from any updates as it is...why even update...everyone is complaining about hurrying because of it...just don't update it and work on 4.4.4 much for feasible and possible for it to happen...alot more people own a note 3 then 4 so I would be working on that on not this one if I was putting all my time into it....but root would be easier and would be nice to have.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ortizl78:
I got 20 for root .....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Surge1223:
I see you talk about this quite a bit but one point that I don't think you have thought through... In order to unlock the bootloader 9 times out of 10 on vzw or att devices you will need root first
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] SysAdmNj:
Nowadays, gaining root is more important to me than an unlocked bootloader. I havent cared for flashing roms and kernels for a little while now, as long as I have great battery life :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] SysAdmNj:
I dont have this device yet, now having second thoughts.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] freebee269:
actually no. if we get root before the at&t and verizon note 4 get android 5.0 then you can simply freeze the at&t software updater app with rom toolbox. this will allow your device to not be force updated to android 5.0. it actually wont even look for an update at all.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] faslane:
Actually gaining root is what most people used to have Safestrap abilities which, in turn allowed for custom roms.. So your thinking is somewhat backwards here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Simsron1:
Is there any status as to the release of an exploit for this device? Any assuring words that will help us sleep at night?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pr0cl1v1ty:
PLEASE tell me how you KNOW that it will be impossible???? PLEASE.

Stop making ignorant accusations which could mislead others who aren't very knowledgeable in this area of android, in a massive attempt to gain attention, and an obvious fact that you know only a very minuscule amount about android.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Capt1v1ty:
you just want attention... I dont understand why you ran off and made another thread instead of just making a suggestion for him to add to this thread so there isn't 2 different threads to run back and fourth...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] freebee269:
There is some good progress being made in this thread regarding root for the Verizon note 4. If it works for Verizon then it should work for at&t. That's the hope anyway.

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/general/talk-root-t2908919/page17
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ShrekOpher:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...ew-modified-kernels-may-become-a-requirement/

But its cool go ahead and ignore one of the best and well respected Android programmers out there. Because this thread full of noobs who want to pay someone to find root on their phones for them, know way more than he does.

Enjoy wasting your money. Just trying to help you all out.

Oh ya XDA itself has posted saying so as well. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-l-lockdown/

If anyone on this site actually read anything at all instead of just demanding stuff we could avoid sh*t like this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] wramos93:
He has a point, its not that he wants attention its just that some people have different needs when it comes to having a rooted device. By achieveing root you simply have more permissions which can easily be taken away with a simple update but with an unlocked bootloader the device becomes yours not atts device and if you have a custom recovery installed it most likely wont accept an OTA update. I know theres alot that you can argue about but the reality is it is definitely more important to unlock our bootloaders so you can do whatever YOU want with YOUR device that YOU paid for. Root is just something fun to have but either way i support both positions i would just prefer an unlocked bootloader.