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[Sprint LG G3] RandomPooka:
That's refreshing news. I may check that one out if I don't see it in the last CM I built. Speaking of, [MENTION=5466237]HPTesla[/MENTION] - I compiled CM12 from sources synced around 10PM Friday 1/23/2015 and the kernel problem is no more. Whatever it was looks to have been fixed on the CM end. Not sure if you're using the same CM kernel source for your 4.4.x ROMs, but it's running properly again.
[Sprint LG G3] I-IoLLoW:
Yeah i noticed I had the same problem with the newest vanir lollipop from 1-19 actually. My vanir 4.4 is fine, pac Lp is fine but newest vanir gave me a kernel crash. However I first had the crash via an updated rin 4.4 kernel build. A lot of commits were made 9 days ago for rin(he may have pulled some cm commits) and I cant get it to boot even on straight stock with no multirom twrp or scripts. I'm waiting on tectas to see if he has any ideas bc it's his kernel, I just build for us. I also have a rin aosp lollipop kernel built but haven't packaged or tested it yet.
[Sprint LG G3] RandomPooka:
WTF does 'rin' even mean? I've never looked into it.
[Sprint LG G3] I-IoLLoW:
I had to look myself....all I found was that it's a Japanese name. Idk. Lol.
[Sprint LG G3] j.anderson618:
I

Pacrom lollipop? Where is this located at
[Sprint LG G3] I-IoLLoW:
My laptop. Has not been uploaded yet. :P
[Sprint LG G3] mjjcb:
It did look and behave very nicely, but I had to keep looking because of the BT problems. I've tried a few builds where this didn't happen, but it happens a lot with the L builds we have. In the car, the BT sounds great until another sound or notification comes through the speakers, and then all hell breaks loose. I rely too much on BT for podcasts and music to make my commute to work tolerable.

I found on G+ that AICP has a nightly L build for the ls990, so I'm loading that now. My guess is this rom won't have a huge breakthrough in BT development, but it's worth a shot. I was hesitant to move to Lollipop because it meant leaving xposed behind. Now, I'm hesitant to downgrade to Kitkat because of the buttery smoothness of Lollipop.

Never completely satisfied, I guess. LOL
[Sprint LG G3] meyerweb:
Do you have a link?
[Sprint LG G3] mjjcb:
I believe the proper etiquette is to not post links to download sites if the dev hasn't done that already here on XDA. I don't know if they all feel that way, but I've seen some that do. Here is a link to the +Google page for Vanir where I found it.

https://plus.google.com/communities/111378032131473754160
[Sprint LG G3] meyerweb:
Thanks. That's better than the download site for me anyway, as I like to read and learn before flashing.
[Sprint LG G3] I-IoLLoW:
Yeah, I also posted the google+ link in the second post of my vanir thread for anyone wanting their official lollipop builds. :)
[Sprint LG G3] mjjcb:
I'm starting to feel like I just need to settle in for a while and not look around too much until something big breaks to really address BT. This weekend, I flashed AICP, Vanir, Bliss, and Illusion Lollipop builds. Each are very nice and customization is coming along at an exciting pace, but if they're all using the same source for their builds, I can't expect BT glitches to be any better or worse than the rest. It's glitchy but I can live with it and wait for real fixes to come.

My uneducated opinion of AICP is that they loaded up a huge number of devices with builds including the ls990 but aren't all in and committed to fine tuning them. When a dev like yourself, pooka, engine, or pump stays in touch with users here on XDA, it speaks volumes to me.
[Sprint LG G3] outofluck:
I've been running the official AICP nightlies for the past few weeks and they've actually been doing a great job of implementing the latest features and fixes to the device. I've spent some time hanging out in their G+ community too and the devs there are pretty helpful. Since all the LP roms have been using the same sources, I figured I'd pick a rom and stick with it for a little while. Du would have been my first choice if not for the fact that it is lacking some features compared to other LP Roms (the test build for instance lacked double tap to wake/sleep functions... Who builds a rom for the G3 without that included?!). I'm strongly considering going onto Blisspop instead since it's the same thing as AICP just with a dark theme by default, and Pump has been doing fantastic work with pushing out updates every few days or so. I really wanna go back to kitkat for the features and stability (and xposed... Gives me so much more control over what is draining the battery when the phone is being heavily used) but the smoothness of lollipop just won't let me go. I deal with the lack of NFC and bluetooth inconsistencies just for the smoothness. I'm hoping that since the official LG 5.0 is coming soon the devs will be able to pick the rom apart and figure out how to get all the NFC, sim card, and BT nonsense sorted out. I remain hopeful!

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I've been using this theme with AICP and aside from the occasional bugs from using the CM theme engine, it's pretty good.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chummy.jezebel.material.dark&hl=en
[Sprint LG G3] RandomPooka:
Don't accuse me of being a developer! At best, I hit stuff with a bigger hammer in different spots until it partially works. And I've been hammering at the sim card issue lately (with no positive results), because I think that's likely the root of several other problems.
[Sprint LG G3] golpeen420:
That, I cannot wait to see
[Sprint LG G3] I-IoLLoW:
Well from what I know, a pac rom dev may be working on building it for ls990. They've asked everyone not to publicly post until their official nightlies start rolling out as well. So I may never upload it - we shall see.
[Sprint LG G3] mjjcb:
Fair response about AICP. As I said, mine is an uninformed opinion I reached by looking at a snapshot of their work. What I saw was a huge list of devices, and there were more bugs than in other L builds I've tried. The impression I got was that they were gunning for volume over quality, but you would know much more than me.

I completely agree with the rest of your post with regard to your Kitkat/Lollipop dilemma. If I hadn't yet experienced the smoothness of 5.0-, I'd happily be loading up my G3 with xposed modules on Kitkat.

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@outofluck, one more thing and something to consider because you mentioned DU. If you read past the last week of posts in the DU thread (if you haven't already), you might see what I saw. I saw dev behavior I wouldn't want to support and an attitude that left me with little respect for them. Since I witnessed what I did, DU has been off the table for me. Perhaps they have a big team, and the behavior of a few is not indicative of the whole, but it didn't endear me to them. I'll just leave it at that.

I don't want to start anything up here. Just sayin...
[Sprint LG G3] Pump Ac7i0n:
Like he said, Im definitely not a dev by any means. Im just building.
[Sprint LG G3] I-IoLLoW:
That makes 3 of us. I'm learning but haven't truly developed anything, just built. But ty anyway. :)
[Sprint LG G3] RandomPooka:
Perseverance will get you a long way
[Sprint LG G3] mjjcb:
Okay, okay! Not developers! LOL I'm so low on the food chain, you all look like devs from way down here. :)
[Sprint LG G3] RandomPooka:
The short explanation is like this. I don't code. I see build errors or runtime errors and dig through existing code to try and make it work. A developer codes. I'm more like a weekend mechanic trying to get the car to run right. If guess that most of the people building roms from urge people's source are the same way.

Not all, but a lot of us

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We sift through the relevant code looking for syntax errors, or changing settings, different variables, and adding/removing binary files. Ask me to write an app, and I'm useless. Ask me to find the error in an app, and I'm slightly less useless.

Mostly, building the ROM involves searching the code repositories for proposed, unmerged fixes, and trying variations on them for our device.
[Sprint LG G3] mjjcb:
I finally had a little bit of enough and restored an old Vanir 4.4 nano that I saved before Christmas. I never experienced a kernel crash before going with 5.0, and it seemed I was getting them once every few days (give or take) regardless of which rom or custom kernel. I miss the smoothness of L and a few of its new features, but it's nice to have more customization back again.

Even more of a driver for me was bluetooth problems. I'm looking forward to the day BT is ironed out. So my question is to our devs... ahem... builders. lol I have no idea what the coding looks like for BT, but I wonder if anyone sees any breakthrough on the horizon. I'm sure someone somewhere could present a fix tomorrow, but based on what you know and have heard, is anyone hot on the trail to the solution?

Thanks!
[Sprint LG G3] I-IoLLoW:
Possibly - i have logs concerning bt not being able to pair to devices(specifically a fitbit) and it searches for libraries that aren't there. Audio for me will pair and work but it skips - what's more frustrating is that it skips on pure stock for me as well. I'm using bt headphones that worked flawlessly on the lg Optimus g but on the g3 they've always skipped in varying degrees(sometimes I'll make it a whole 30 min bike ride without skipping, other times they skip so badly that it's almost unusable - again this is on pure rooted stock).

So I may have a fix coming but have a ton of other misc work to get squared away first. Hopefully I'll find time this weekend to tackle it - it may be as simple as not having those hardware libraries installed. One of us will get it but "when" is definitely the question. I'll let everyone know the moment I have a breakthrough on that or nfc, as I'm sure pooka and pump would as well. :)
[Sprint LG G3] mjjcb:
Thank you, sir. I'm sure that's a real can of worms and just one of many things on your radar. I'm happy to wait. Just curious, is all. I haven't had problems connecting to my car or watch on any build that I can remember, and it's never skipped. My BT issue is the sound in my car getting jacked up when any other sound chimes in.
[Sprint LG G3] scottspa74:
Agreed. I've been a DU supporter for a few years, I put it on all devices. Mine, wife, friends, etc. Then I comment that the oversharpenung fix wasnt built in, and douche drops support and closes thread. Amazing. Very childish behavior. Could I have said it more thoughtfully? Possibly. I was drinking and it was late, maybe I could have been more gentle. No offense was meant.

Look, the font is horrendous. Not sure if its the over sharpening or not, but def makes bloody eyes.

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[/COLOR]@outofluck, one more thing and something to consider because you mentioned DU. If you read past the last week of posts in the DU thread (if you haven't already), you might see what I saw. I saw dev behavior I wouldn't want to support and an attitude that left me with little respect for them. Since I witnessed what I did, DU has been off the table for me. Perhaps they have a big team, and the behavior of a few is not indicative of the whole, but it didn't endear me to them. I'll just leave it at that.

I don't want to start anything up here. Just sayin...[/QUOTE]
[Sprint LG G3] tritonesub:
Hey guys, we have word from a reputable source that Lollipop is coming on the 16th of this month!
[Sprint LG G3] RandomPooka:
Nice. Which device variants? All?
[Sprint LG G3] tritonesub:
He only mentioned the LS990. It'd be cool if we were the first of the US carriers to get the update though, hahaha.
[Sprint LG G3] RandomPooka:
Yeah. There's a first time for everything, right?
[Sprint LG G3] churchey360:
Sprint is usually pretty fast with OTA updates compared to other U.S. carriers
[Sprint LG G3] israphil622:
I'm curious to know if and when we do get official lollipop will it have any implications for aosp lollipop roms on our device?
[Sprint LG G3] outofluck:
http://www.androidcentral.com/lollipop-update-sprint-htc-one-m8-set-feb-13-lg-g3-feb-16

Unless any of the other variants come out of left field, Sprint is poised to push it first, so it seems. Can't wait to see what LG has done with the stock rom and how badly they've screwed us for the bump fiasco. Lol

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Given all the crap with the bump fiasco, current guesses are that LG is gonna lock the phone up nice and tight with the OTA. Lollipop changes the way root works and as such it puts emphasis on being able to exploit the bootloader. Since the bootloader was never unlocked for the G3, this creates an issue where if the worst happens, the G3 on 5.0+ will be kind of stuck with its stock software unless someone can somehow crack it (the likelihood of this I don't know). As for those of us who have already rooted/bumped, it should hopefully not be an issue. I mean, we're already able to flash 5.0+ roms with minimal issues so I don't think that will change. I don't know how quickly we'll get, say, a debloated and rooted version of the OTA but I have faith in the folks here at XDA that it'll still be done in a relatively quick fashion. This is definitely going to be an interesting OTA so now's the time to sit back and wait for all the discoveries (good and bad) to come along.
[Sprint LG G3] israphil622:
Yeah. These XDA dudes, these devs keep me in a constant state of amazement. I'm stumped, bumped, and pumped for what's to come. I'm just wondering if the official ota will provide any clues to sort out any of the issues or aosp/cm Roms are experiencing like Bluetooth, Sim cards, etc.
[Sprint LG G3] I-IoLLoW:
It should. I've been busy and hella overworked so I've been quiet on the forums lately. However, I have been checking lgs open source site for the lollipop source. It's usually there before the OTA drops and so far both rom and kernel are still at zv6. When it does drop, I expect work to progress quickly but we all have lives outside of this so no promises. I still haven't fixed rin kernel or taken a deep look at bluetooth(I've been trying for two weekends now) just zero time between work and life.

The only real issue is if they block downgrading. For those of us already rooted/bumped - we SHOULD be fine. But for new users, if they can't get back to zv4, that's gonna be a tough one to crack.
[Sprint LG G3] israphil622:
I, and I'm sure others as well, appreciate your time and effort. More than anything this G3 is my communication stick. I walk a fine line of having the latest and greatest and reliable functionality. As far as that's concerned guys like you and engine and others I take your insight about this device as the gospel truth. So if you guys are quite I try my best to practice patience. I'll take the tried and true over the fresh and new any day.
[Sprint LG G3] meyerweb:
If you want root, you'd best not take the Lollipop OTA. There's a good chance it will never be rooted.

Stay on rooted Kitkat, wait for devs to grab the OTA and turn it in to flashable zips, and apply it via a TWRP to preserve root.

I've been playing around with Illusion Lollipop, and at this point I prefer KitKat with root and multiple customizations. Lollipop may catch up eventually, but right now it's a step backwards as far as I'm concerned.
[Sprint LG G3] scottspa74:
This reminds me if, today I was listening to android police podcast at work, and the southern sounding guy, for get his name, said, 'the thing I like least about lollipop,?..... Is lollipop'. Lol. I kinda agree. He then likened LP to android is like vista is to Microsoft. A new direction, but wrong ATM.
[Sprint LG G3] RandomPooka:
Wow, L sure does get a lot of hate
[Sprint LG G3] outofluck:
I'm all for respecting the opinions of other people, but I really don't see why there's all the hate for lollipop.... I'm wondering if it's just a residual effect of not having the same depth of customization and xposed like previous versions had.... It's not totally on par with where it was before (and really, they did change the runtime and a lot of stuff under the hood so it's expected to not be fully there yet) and maybe some people just can't enjoy it if it offers slightly less than, say, kitkat. Or maybe some people just don't like change and/or the new layout of things? *shrugs* To each their own, right? All I know is aside from the few bugs that remain, I'm loving it. Can't wait to see how things change once everybody has gotten their updates.
[Sprint LG G3] MikeDroid:
I'm with meyerweb...LP is a step back from xposed KitKat. I have Lollipop on my Nexus 5 and it doesn't offer a better user experience. I've said before that Lollipop is more for Google than the end user. If you like what you have now, then hold off on LP and disable the OTA notifications with whatever method is most effective for you.
[Sprint LG G3] scottspa74:
For me, my gripe with LP isn't about xposed, I never use it, personally. (This LG ROM with tweaksbox is the first time I recall using it). It's more about layout. The layout for much of it feels awkward to me. Or like quick settings, I like kk style of 2 pages better rather than double pull down, and very limited QS tiles available in LP. That's all I can remember right now. I do like the 'complete action using' style in LP. There def is some stuff I like in LP. I keep going back and forth. Maybe it'll grow on me.

Come to think of it, there were some things I didn't like moving from JB to KK and waited a long time to make the jump lol. I guess I'm just a late adopter with regard to OS's.
[Sprint LG G3] meyerweb:
I suspect that, in time, this will mature into a strong OS. But right now it's still pretty feature limited, and there were some really stupid design decisions. 5.1 will fix some of them, 5.2 some more, and sooner or later we'll all be using it.
[Sprint LG G3] I-IoLLoW:
Yeah lollipop has its pros and cons. For people heavy into customization like myself, it's lacking a lot. With material design, you either love it or hate it but the animations are very fluid. Battery for me was incredible which is a huge plus. Sooner or later most people will be using it as a daily driver, I think but each user is different.
[Sprint LG G3] golpeen420:
Personally speaking I think that Lollipop is more fluid. Not just my G3, but my Note 2, and my galaxy S3 both saw significant improvement as far as quickness goes vs CM11 as well as all having much better battery life. Add to that the release of the CM theme engine has enabled me to rid myself of every ugly inch of white in my ui, lollipop is pretty awesome. It lacks a certain level of customization and functionality (ex. xposed, freedom, etc.) but I feel those will come with time, or will be replaced with better/newer alternatives and right now the improvements that lollipop offers over KitKat make it worth the switch already imo.
[Sprint LG G3] I-IoLLoW:
NOW it's official. :) Thanks to engine95 for letting me know.
[Sprint LG G3] succumbtothegreater:
Not sure what I like more, the news or your nav buttons :p
[Sprint LG G3] I-IoLLoW:
Too bad they don't work on lollipop(xposed required). Lol.
[Sprint LG G3] RandomPooka:
Is that a ZV8 LP flashable zip?
[Sprint LG G3] Spaniard85:
WHAT WHAT?
[Sprint LG G3] I-IoLLoW:
No, it is the ls990 lollipop source code and kernel from lg's website.
[Sprint LG G3] RandomPooka:
Seemed like a straightforward question XD

I couldn't tell at first. Guess that makes sense, though.
[Sprint LG G3] scottspa74:
It's only the kernel? It's 0.99gb, that sounds like a full ROM and kernel. Not doubting you, just surprised. Haven't looked close yet.
[Sprint LG G3] RandomPooka:
It's from their open source dev site. I just didn't recognize the mobile view. That's no ROM, it's their code patch set to be applied to AOSP 5.0.x to get from vanilla AOSP to the lg g3 stock ROM

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"That's no moon ..."
[Sprint LG G3] IamFlynn:
Art!

Just switched from Dalvik to Art runtime on stock 4.4.2 (ZV6).

How has your Art run-time been?
[Sprint LG G3] outofluck:
So you could use that source to compile the ZV8 update before it officially drops?
[Sprint LG G3] RandomPooka:
Unfortunately, no. It's not everything we would need
[Sprint LG G3] mjjcb:
Hopefully, this has been the calm before the storm when devs can really dig into the 5.01 release. It just seems like there's been a lull across all roms, and I'd even say I perceive a step back in terms of reported kernel panics and bootloops. I haven't done much flashing lately, because I've read more and more of these comments.

From what I've read, the bootloop fix seems to be to install shorter start-up animations. If that's true, why all of a sudden are incompatible animations being built into these recent versions?
[Sprint LG G3] golpeen420:
Xposed for 5.0 is live!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=58828974
[Sprint LG G3] IamFlynn:
Just flashed leaked 5.0.1 .tot file! Of course there is no root at the time I am posting this but I am okay with that!

SO far so good, status bar is materialized along with new navigation bar (big icons). There are new sounds (click sounds, power on/power off sounds).

-First boot is just like booting cm12/5.0.2 roms for the first time with the new google sign in (materialized).

-The new lollipop animations are super duper slick and smooth. I am falling in love with the smoothness and animations <3!

-New statusbar pull down has material design look and has call volume slider and brightness slider

-Status bar and navigation bar are always in sync (changes color as materialized)

-less bloatware possibly? (looks like there are just google preinstalled apps, along with box, lookout, and sprint apps (mobile ID, data optimizer, and sprint zone).
[Sprint LG G3] IamFlynn:
Now that we have Lollipop, what now?
[Sprint LG G3] sinisin:
Was anyone else aware AICP has offical builds for our phones?
[Sprint LG G3] scottspa74:
No. Actually, I think I recall [MENTION=3214580]aher[/MENTION]rjd pointing it out quite a while ago.
[Sprint LG G3] outofluck:
Based on my assumptions, the devs are already tearing apart ZV8 to see what makes it tick, in the hopes that we can use it for reference to fix the current issues with bluetooth, NFC, the sim card error, etc. Once those are fixed, we'll have official CM12. Beyond that... I don't really know. Engine is already working on a deodexed version of ZV8, and I assume given a few weeks we'll have a deodexed and debloated version of it out there. Best advice is gonna be to sit back and see what kinds of amazing things our great devs put together.

I was. I've been using them as my DD for about a month and a half now. They just had their first milestone release, and as such they're now utilizing OTA nightly updates. If I had known people weren't aware, I would've posted something about it... Oh well. Now you know! Lol
[Sprint LG G3] meyerweb:
Looks like a deodexed ZV8 might not be in the cards anytime soon:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=58854000&postcount=54
[Sprint LG G3] RandomPooka:
Don't link to that saying that it implies that we aren't going to have deodexed. What the hell? It doesn't say that at all. It specifically says that he will work on debloating before trying to tackle deodexing, which is difficult to figure out.

Nowhere does it say it won't happen or that he can't do it.

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That's how rumors get started
[Sprint LG G3] scottspa74:
In all fairness [MENTION=2672641]meyerweb[/MENTION] said '...anytime soon' .
[Sprint LG G3] RandomPooka:
True to that. I was a bit too animated in my reply
[Sprint LG G3] HappyFillmore:
This working quite nicely. I debloated and running fine. Just don't see alarm in status bar. I even restored titanium backups. Have not tried new xposed yet. Letting things soak.
[Sprint LG G3] RandomPooka:
Was that maybe for the zv8 thread?
[Sprint LG G3] sinisin:
New Xposed does not work on the G3