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[Nexus 6  General] atcchris:
Yeah... I guess for me personally, nothing has changed. I always couldn't hold back and would sideload an OTA if I didn't get it the first day or two. So, I did this time too, and ATT couldn't stop that.

I almost always end up on a custom ROM about a year into a new Nexus anyways, and I'm sure I will this time too.

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Under this new method, there's no such thing as a pure Google phone, unless perhaps you use it on WiFi only. The updates are being held up, supposedly, to ALL devices, no matter where they were purchased.

I guess nobody knows for sure. At least, I haven't seen any kind of official announcement from ATT or Google (other than Google changing their policy, but nothing specifically about ATT and the 5.0.1 update). So, I'm basically following the guess of the Android Police staff. I think it is a well educated guess.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...ay-waits-may-be-longer-based-on-your-carrier/
[Nexus 6  General] DirtyDroidX:
Has anyone captured the ota from there device? If so I can make a flashable zip compatible with TWRP ,CWM etc .

If you are rooted and received the update, before you install use a file explorer and look in /cache and copy it to your sdcard. Or when you get the ota , trigger a bug report (activate developer settings, tick power menu bug reports), hold power till menu comes up and choose bug report.

TIA
[Nexus 6  General] atcchris:
If you had the link to download the OTA directly from Google, would that work?
[Nexus 6  General] TheEmpyre:
The easiest way around all this waiting and wondering when is to just flash the 5.0.1 factory bootloader, radio, recovery, boot, and system image files (not the cache) and you will have an updated device. Learn a little fastboot and adb in the process, that way you won't ever have to wait again for an OTA.

I just downloaded the factory images straight from Google, flashed and was up and running in 10 minutes with 5.0.1
[Nexus 6  General] atcchris:
Rgr. I did similar, but used the OTA zip downloaded straight from Google (via a link from Droid-Life.com) and did ADB sideload instead. Not sure what the big differences are.

In my experience, it's all pretty simple, except I always seem to have issues with drivers at first, when I get new devices. Usually after the first go around those are resolved. Actually, droid-life linked to a tutorial on driver issues too. The base of the problem seemed to be rooted in the device IDs that windows sees. There's a different ID when you're in "recovery sideload" mode than just in regular boot with adb.
[Nexus 6  General] bodosom:
That's so yesterday. We're all waiting on 5.0.2.

/cache seems to be an issue for some people. I just flashed the images that changed and /cache.
[Nexus 6  General] TheEmpyre:
Haha half the people in here talking about wanting a zip for 5.0.1!
[Nexus 6  General] DirtyDroidX:
Been busy, lol I didn't no they had them up

. I can pull it down myself thank you though.

If anyone wants a flashable zip pm me the OTA meta-data folder
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
This jives with my experience. With my att sim in my att n6, i was waiting and waiting and waiting. then as soon as i sim-unlocked it, and stuck in my wife's tmobile iphone sim, the offer for ota came up. in about a minute and a half. and this was with a tmoble sim, locked to my wife's stock locked, not-jailbroken, brand new on contract, tmobile iphone 6. presumably, tmobile knows the imei associated with their own sim, too. yet i stuck THAT iphone tmobile sim in my freshly unlocked att n6, and got the ota immediately.

no biggie to me either way. in fact, now that i've got 5.01, i might just flash back to 5.00 and wait some more to see when att actually starts pushing these updates again. AFAICT, from this thread, a FEW people got their att ota the first day, and NOBODY has gotten anything since.

it remains a point of curiosity to me, to see when att actually starts releasing these.
[Nexus 6  General] neopolotin75:
I got the update as soon as they started pushing it out for Att and I was rooted. I unrootrd and went back to stock because I really didn't need root since there's no xposed.....after that I have yet to get the notification again. I think it's just random...when it happens it happens but I dont think its being blocked or held up on Att end or google at the request of Att.
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
this is what i have been suspecting. att pushed a few 5.01 ota's out on the first day, and none since (that i have heard of).

i'm perfectly comfortable sideloading images from google's developer site, but i'm glad i can stick in my wife's iphone tmobile sim too if i want to trigger an ota offer.

if any of you unlocked your att sim, and know someone with tmoble, you might give it a try too. in my case it was easy for me, because my wife is with tmobile.

further, because i do this stuff mostly for fun,nothing important or serious, i might sideload back to 5.00 (not many differences i can tell anyway), and wait to see how long att takes to push me an ota.

-peter
[Nexus 6  General] toyfreak:
I got my N6 (from Motorola) on Monday, November 17 and I'm using it in AT&T. Completely stock firmware. First boot was without AT&T SIM card so no bloatware. I still haven't gotten the 5.0.1 OTA update. I powered down, pulled the SIM card, and rebooted about 5 minutes ago. Nothing yet... seems odd.
[Nexus 6  General] TonikJDK:
AT&T was pushing bloat on first boot?
[Nexus 6  General] bodosom:
As has been mentioned many times Google has provided a method for carriers to auto-install apps from the PlayStore at some point during initial set-up. In the case of AT&T there are two programs both of which can simply be removed. You might want myAT&T but the current version wants a large set of permissions on the device which seems odd for that sort of app. I don't know anything about AT&T Live beyond the fact it sounds stupid.

Again -- since they're normally installed apps they can be removed in the normal way.

It's been said if you boot the phone without the SIM the apps aren't installed. Personally I think it's easier to delete two apps than pull and replace the SIM card.
[Nexus 6  General] Dkrizzle:
Anything I should do specifically for the AT&T Nexus 6 when I get it? Was gonna get mine through the playstore to avoid carrier bloat but its taking too long and my local AT&T has some in stock.
[Nexus 6  General] evercleardoc:
I stuck in a cricket SIM and no bloat was loaded. I also got the OTA for 5.0.1 right away. Pretty sweet. Phone is network locked to AT&T so I can't put a tmobile sim in to try. Awaiting network unlock code from ebay. Hopefully I didn't get scammed ;)
[Nexus 6  General] bodosom:
Have you read this thread? Even the last page?

There is no carrier "bloat" on AT&T N6 phones. There is an AT&T logo at boot, a small set of AT&T provided ringtones and two programs are installed during set up. All of this can be fixed using instructions from Google, in this thread or the AT&T "un"-customization thread.
[Nexus 6  General] Hivol:
Just FYI for those that want to force the 5.01 update. What worked for me was powering down, removing sim, boot back to OS, clear data on google services framework, reboot. It popped up immediately when I booted back to OS. As always, your mileage may vary!
[Nexus 6  General] Drotheman:
At what point do you guys think that a phone exchange is needed? 44% of the battery drain is coming from the Cell Standby.
[Nexus 6  General] neopolotin75:
What's your signal strength like?
[Nexus 6  General] robstunner:
Tap the graph, what color is the majority of your signal strength? It could be normal.
[Nexus 6  General] JasonJoel:
That worked for me too.

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] l Frosty l:
Would you all who have purchased the Nexus 6 from ATT recommend it? Or would you all recommend just buying it completely outright?

From what i have read the biggest differences are:

Splash Boot Screen

Ringtones

**Possibly** slower OTA's

Seems almost trivial to me. But i would like to hear from those who actually went through ATT.
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
Got mine through AT&T, boot screen is gone and so is the OS. It's not even like I got it through them. Worth every penny.

Sent from my slim sensei N6
[Nexus 6  General] l Frosty l:
I actually found another thread here where they talked about removing practically everything ATT. More and More enticing now! I appreciate the reply too.
[Nexus 6  General] bodosom:
Buying from AT&T and outright purchase are not mutually exclusive. AT&T charges a bit more but provides an "interest-free" loan. The items you mention are not the significant differences.

These are:

1) SIM lock.

2) Availability.
[Nexus 6  General] theeggman:
I must admit, I am quite satisfied with my Nexus 6 via AT&T. I have found workarounds for most of my issues.
[Nexus 6  General] atcchris:
For one, the OTA thing is wrong. ATT can ask Google to delay the OTA to all ATT customers and Google will. It doesn't matter where the phone was purchased. They seem, from what we've read here, to be doing it based on the sim card somehow.

ATT only sells the blue 32gb. They sell it for slightly more than GPS/Motorola. However, in my case that turned out to basically be the shipping costs. Since ATT shipped my phone for free, it broke even. Getting it this way was the best because it was actually available and I didn't have to camp out on a website and hope to be one of the lucky 5 people to get one.

The most annoying thing is the boot logo. But only because it is EFFFING loud! However, I believe if you removed it, all future OTAs would fail and you'd have to resort to flashing factory images or finding some other fix.
[Nexus 6  General] serialtoon:
Ok, lets see if we can clear up some of these claims here. I have the GPE (or had) version of the phone and aside from the AT&T bootup and sounds there is nothing else on the software side of things that is different. When i got my AT&T variant I immediately booted into bootloader and booted into twrp, removed the /oem/ garbage that i didnt want. Restarted the phone and set it up with no sim card in the unit. I then rebooted the device, inserted SIM and was prompted to update to 5.0.1 right away. I did the OTA with ZERO issues. Reading on these forums and gathering a general consensus of things seems like the OEM partition is not needed or only needed for carrier trash. The only downside i see is *maybe* in the future AT&T or any carrier will use that partition to load more junk into our phones via an update, but i fail to see how this would cause us to have to resort to other ways in updating our phones with the latest OS. To top it off, being that we have unlocked bootloaders we would still just get the latest bits from googles own factory images repo.
[Nexus 6  General] l Frosty l:
I do know that they only sell the 32GB which is a drawback but that just requires me to facilitate what i need.

Like others have said the boot splash can be removed.

Im seriously debating snagging it

I could care less about the total price point at the end of the agreement. Im contemplating switching from my 128GB i6 to the N6

EDIT:

The 128gb was all that i could get at the time

I use no where close to that amount

(Music takes the most storage from my device)

EDIT 2:

Motorola actually tweeted my back this morning. They have the unbranded version in stock
[Nexus 6  General] seanowns:
Only thing I disliked was the obnoxious boot sound. I could have lived with the picture.

It's an easy fix though with root. Using a file Explorer, you just delete the media folder in the OEM root folder. I copied it over to my SD in case.
[Nexus 6  General] YoungAceAtlanta:
Question.. The AT&T version bootloader can be unlocked right ?
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
Yes, it's the same as all the others.

Sent from my slim sensei N6
[Nexus 6  General] YoungAceAtlanta:
OK great because I'm also debating should I get the Play Store version or carrier variant
[Nexus 6  General] rob219:
so theres no at&t 64gb version but after talking to someone at the at@t store im on my way now to payy off my note 3 on next and pick up a 64gb version. its going to be shipped and i have to pay sales tax on it. just a heads up if anyone wants a 64gb on at&t without buying it from google for 649. hope everyone lucks out the same.
[Nexus 6  General] Intub8:
I have until Monday night to return my 32 GB nexus 6 . let me know how you make out.
[Nexus 6  General] WoodburyMan:
Saw all this with AT&T and the bootlogo and other things they do to the phone. Decided to get my 64gb Blue off Motorola directly and financing it for 6mo though them with the 0% interest thing they had going on. (~$120 a month, not that bad). Set it up with no SIM before going to the AT&T store and getting a new Nano SIM. Worked just fine with no AT&T junk on it.
[Nexus 6  General] rob219:
turns out i drove all the way to the store so the person i talked to on the phone could tell me that i could only get the 32gb through at&t and not the 64gb like i was told. so, i didnt get a jexus 6. 32gb just isnt enough storage.
[Nexus 6  General] dcemtp1:
I wanted to do that, applied and found out I have good credit but not enough credit history... I should've guessed that would happen considering I'm 19 and recently independent haha
[Nexus 6  General] manup456:
I have the 32gb but this is a great product for making up for the lack of memory. I just tossed my 64gb card in and that gives me 96gb which is prefect for me.

http://www.meenova.com/
[Nexus 6  General] Intub8:
Thanks for the link. Just ordered one.
[Nexus 6  General] kennyho35:
I have never had a nexus device. I was always a Samsung guy. Hence the "was"! I got my nexus 6 through at&t. I paid cash on site for it and got the Sim unlock code that day. I am active duty military and they said most people have to wait 6 months or some trash.... I immediately downloaded SDK and fastboot forced all my stuff in the phone. Its unlocked, boot loaded unlocked, and rooted. Currently I'm on liquidsmooth's 5.0.2 android. It has increased my battery life significantly, and it runs buttery smoothly! I deleted the at&t boot logo located in the OEM partition and deleted the at&t logo located in the task bar on lock screen. I also replaced the back door with a nexus 6 white back door off eBay for around $15. This is the fastest phone I have ever owned! The liquid kernel oc's to 2.89GHZ.
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
Haven't read much since a few weeks ago, but did people with unrooted stock Roms get their 5.0.1 OTAs yet? I had to unlock and stick a T-Mobile Sim in to get my 5.0.1 OTA. But that was a few weeks ago. Maybe att finally allowed 5.0.1 for its stock unrooted users by now?

-Peter
[Nexus 6  General] Intub8:
Yes I am on 5.01 stock.
[Nexus 6  General] Ukwildcatsrule:
I got 5.0.1 update in early December when it was released had my phone thorough att for about 3 hours when update came through.. Maybe I was lucky or att had nothing to do with update.. Since I got my update same day I would like to think att has nothing to do with it.
[Nexus 6  General] Rob3E:
I have something similar, or perhaps an earlier model of that same thing. I also just picked up one of these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DTPYRTI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

Not as easily portable, and probably not as useful for external storage that you use daily, but for occasional use, it's pretty handy, not just to provide access to external storage for my phone, but to share files between devices. I can now use the device as an intermediary between my iPad and my phone or my computer. And the device has other uses besides sharing storage.

I currently have a 16 gb phone with a 32 gb SD card, so the 32 gb Nexus I hope to get from AT&T in a couple of weeks is a mixed blessing. Double the space for apps is good, but less storage overall. These external solutions should help make up the difference. In reality, since I've never bothered moving any apps over to the SD card, it mostly serves as space for occasionally used files. Nothing is as useful as an actual SD card slot, but based on how I currently use my SD card, I think this will give me access to what I need. And hopefully 32 GB will be enough stop the storage-space-full messages. But if AT&T were offering the 64, I would definitely go for it.
[Nexus 6  General] manup456:
Yeah I personally don't install that many apps that I would use 32gb at all. I would have purchased the 64gb if they had it as well, but I only use SD card for twrp backups mainly. I keep 4 of my top albums on phone the rest go on SD card for swapping and that's really it. I have all music on play music, wallpapers and apps on google drive. You will be fine with a 32gb and the product I suggested if your using your phone similar to me.
[Nexus 6  General] rachelm920:
Having no micro SD was a turn off to me wanting this phone, but now with this little gadget I am thinking woo-hoo!!

I am so so tired of the locked down S5 that I've had for almost a year. I miss AOSP badly. So just to confirm, I can fully root and throw any ROM I want on the AT&T variant?? (Sorry don't want to go through hundreds of pages)
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
I'd like to think the carriers have nothing to do with the timing of the release of updates to nexus devices, too. But that would be wrong. Google changed their policy back on December 2nd with regards to who has final say on the release of updates to nexus devices. And it is the carriers. It made headlines in the tech blogs. Here's one of them:

http://www.androidauthority.com/google-nexus-update-policy-changed-waits-may-longer-depending-carrier-571594/

A quote from that article:

Glad you got yours. I stuck my wife's T-Mobile Sim card in mine... T-Mobile wasn't delaying the updates, so I got mine the instant my att n6 locked onto a T-Mobile cell tower.

-Peter
[Nexus 6  General] manup456:
Oh for sure this is easy to unlock and root takes all of 10 mins and yeah you can flash anything available.
[Nexus 6  General] rachelm920:
AWESOME! I'm going to have to check it out and make sure I like the feel of it, seems large as in being only an inch smaller than my Nexus 7 LOL.
[Nexus 6  General] manup456:
Well I also use an m8 and thought coming to this would be to big for me, but was super surprised how much I love it. My m8 has gotten a bit jealous but shamu took over.
[Nexus 6  General] rachelm920:
Does it fit in your back jeans pocket though WITH a case? That's my biggest worry LOL
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
funny how perceptions are. i came to the nexus6 from another phablet, the note2. my biggest gripe with the nexus6 is that it's not big enough. i'd like to see 7 inches, but with little or no bezel. my second biggest gripe is the idiotic, ridiculously over the top, battery killing, screen resolution.

Mine fits EASILY in front jeans pocket, rear jeans pocket, and front shirt pocket WITH a case, and it's a full wraparound case with shock protection.

-peter
[Nexus 6  General] rachelm920:
OK now I'm drooling for my tax refund LOL
[Nexus 6  General] rachelm920:
OK so I got my Nexus Saturday and my meenova dash micro today. I plugged it in and it lights up but I can't find my micro SD anywhere. I tried es file explorer etc. Any suggestions?
[Nexus 6  General] neopolotin75:
It's not under storage anywhere?
[Nexus 6  General] rachelm920:
Nope
[Nexus 6  General] gharris040604:
What kind of SD card are u using?
[Nexus 6  General] neopolotin75:
Try going to main tree where u see res, root, system etc and see if its showing there. Whennu connect the SD card to the computer does your computer recognize it? If not your card my be corrupted.
[Nexus 6  General] rachelm920:
Sandisk

I'll have to try the pc tomorrow only wireless devices at home lol I can't find it anywhere under file explorer

OK just plugged it into my boyfriend's S5 and it popped right up

I'm on stock rooted BTW
[Nexus 6  General] gharris040604:
Do you have stick mount installed?
[Nexus 6  General] rachelm920:
I didn't realize I needed an app! It's working now! Thank you![emoji2]
[Nexus 6  General] Rob3E:
AT&T on-contract pricing w/Amazon (USA)

I feel like when I was pricing the Nexus 6 the other day, it didn't matter if I went directly through AT&T or Amazon, the on-contract price was the same: ~$250. I was figuring the in-store price would be about the same, too, so I was just going to find an AT&T store with it in stock, and pick it up there.

Then I checked Amazon again today and found the Nexus 6, with a 2 year contract extension with AT&T, was now ~$180. I don't think that was the case when I last checked. $70 less when buying through Amazon. That's a welcome discount for me. Maybe it'll help other new buyers.
[Nexus 6  General] neopolotin75:
Lol
[Nexus 6  General] edisepic:
HELP

im looking to purchase an AT&T Nexus 6 from clist TODAY to use on Sprint. I got a sprint nano sim and was wondering if i can activate it. I heard you give sprint the IMEI number without the last digit or something. Has anyone done this? Anything i should know? thanks in advance
[Nexus 6  General] atcchris:
Well, one thing you should know is that ATT N6s are Sim locked to ATT. You won't be able to use it on Sprint.

The only alternative is to get an unlock code for it from either, ATT or, search this thread and get one from one of the various sources online.

Or buy a non-ATT N6.
[Nexus 6  General] edisepic:
what exactly does the unlock code do and when i get it what do i do from there?
[Nexus 6  General] cam30era:
Insert a SIM from another carrier. After the phone boots up, it will ask for the unlock code. Type the code in the box that pops up, then hit the "enter" button.
[Nexus 6  General] edisepic:
but with sprint the sim cards don't work like they do for tmo and att the cards have to be assigned to the device via the meid/imei number so idk if this will work.....
[Nexus 6  General] cam30era:
If you insert a SIM card from any other carrier, the unlock window will pop up. Even if the SIM is not activated.
[Nexus 6  General] Rob3E:
Based on what I read here, when I got my AT & T branded phone, I just popped the Sim card out before turning it on. I then unlocked the bootloader, rooted, and installed the custom recovery. Then I set the phone up with my Google account information. Then I restarted with the SIM in place and had AT & T activate my phone.

As near as I can tell I got no special AT & T software downloaded. I did have the obnoxious start-up noise, which I deleted after I had to do a reboot in my otherwise quiet, shared workspace. That thing was loud.

The thing I didn't do, which I should have, was find a flashable version of the current OS, and put that in place before started downloading my apps and setting up my phone. Alternatively I could have probably forced an update to 5.0.1 before I rooted the phone. Once I was rooted with a TWRP recover, the Over-the-Air update would download, but would not install. I dirty-flashed Scott's almost-entirely-stock ROM (http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/development/rom-stock-rooted-5-0-1-lrx22-stock-root-t2980206), which worked, but the smart thing would have been to do a full wipe. I just didn't want to set my phone up again, and fortunately I didn't have to.

So that seemed like a fair number of steps to go through, but the phone is doing fine with no AT & T bloat and no ear-shattering boot sound. Hooray for XDA!
[Nexus 6  General] CraigP17:
Has anyone with a Nexus 6 purchased from AT&T got the 5.1 ota yet?
[Nexus 6  General] Tersanyus:
Completely stock AT&T Nexus 6 here. Have done nothing at all to it. No 5.1 update here yet. Betting it will be a few weeks.
[Nexus 6  General] MadHatter01:
Nope, no update. Been checking every hour.
[Nexus 6  General] MHB1638:
Typical ATT. Nexus is waiting for 5.1 and my wife's Galaxy S5 is still waiting for 5.0 even as every other carrier has dropped it. Whats the deal with ATT anyways? They really are getting on my last nerves with being last to push updates.
[Nexus 6  General] mr dinosaur84:
Y'all could just do it yourselves. I updated to 5.1 using Wug's tool kit. Took about 30 minutes was incredibly simple. I was able to hammer down 2 Red Hook IPAs while the scripts ran. I'd suggest y'all do the same instead of waiting for AT&T.