yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T LG G3] loganfarrell:
As far as preventing OTA updates, if you're rooted, freeze Software Updater with Titanium Backup. Cloudy will disable OTA updates. KitKat ROMs are unnecessary for getting the sliders. Just use xposed and the G3 tweaksbox. And finally, it's pretty uncommon that any dev will ever release a timeline or an arrival date for root. I'm afraid we all just have to be patient. The root method on the note 4 thread linked above is likely to be what ends up saving us, which will shortly thereafter result in us getting Cloudy.
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
So, I just bought these batteries today, Anyone else have one?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q4K7Q34/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
I run the Mugen that I won for free ;)

2SHAYNEZ
[AT&T LG G3] bigblue4life:
How come I can't find the cloudy Rom for our phone? All I see its the newest one for lolipop.
[AT&T LG G3] heathroi:
anker batteries

same as stock.
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
Do you have one?
[AT&T LG G3] agriff:
Let's keep an eye on the Verizon Lollipop update thread to see what they can do about root without a kdz file. http://xdaforums.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/vs98523a-ota-release-t3038706
[AT&T LG G3] s89281b:
http://xdaforums.com/devdb/project/?id=6315#downloads link is from FAQ in cloudy rom thread. http://xdaforums.com/lg-g3/development/rom-cloudyg3-1-0-t2917467
[AT&T LG G3] heathroi:
yes, had it for a month or so.
[AT&T LG G3] shanegarm:
Ok so I'm going to root and then flash the kit Kat cloudy g3 rom. In order to avoid my phone auto updating to lollipop, I was going to take my SIM out and put it in my g2 until I flash. Instead, I think as long as I stay off of wifi my phone won't auto update on me. Is this correct?
[AT&T LG G3] Daptonic:
I bought some too. Haven't used them yet ... but plan to test them shortly.
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
Nice. Lemme know how they work for you. Mine should be here Thursday. [emoji1]

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Well yeah.. Doesn't mean they won't be better quality.. If I wanted a longer lasting battery I would have bought a 6000k mAh. I just dislike adding bulge and I dont feel like buying another case lol.

They had 4k mAh but they were unknown brands to me and had little reviews on em.
[AT&T LG G3] demoicurn:
I wish there was more att stock kk development while I wait for rooted stock lp with xposed.
[AT&T LG G3] netomel:
What do you mean there is a bunch.

Check the index on the right in this forum.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3024037
[AT&T LG G3] demoicurn:
Thanks for the link. Are any of the roms still in development? All the threads seem pretty dead.
[AT&T LG G3] netomel:
The way I follow is that on the index usually shows the date of the latest update or on each thread you can see the date of the latest release. Most of the devs are already working on lollipop that's why you don't see much development since 1/30.

I am on lollipop waiting for root.
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
Kinda stuck in limbo right now.. Considering we're all waiting for root lol.
[AT&T LG G3] sturmen:
I believe those are all based on D855 ROMs and are hackjobs to get them to work on the D850. I'm still waiting for a ROM based on D85020F.
[AT&T LG G3] netomel:
We are all waiting seems that the development on the note 4 may apply to us. We just have to wait and see.
[AT&T LG G3] demoicurn:
I read the devs all moved on to LP. I hunted through all the roms and could only find one dark themed to go along with my TBO apps.
[AT&T LG G3] 4NDROID4LIFE:
So the d852 our Canadian brethren is getting lollipop. If there's has a kdz or tot can we use there's?

Sent from my D850 T-Mobile SIM
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
Newp.
[AT&T LG G3] 4NDROID4LIFE:
Why you say that? They can flash our custom roms

Sent from my D850 T-Mobile SIM
[AT&T LG G3] Pdj7969:
Please report back your findings once it's settled in. I'm interested in the results as this mod sounds amazing.
[AT&T LG G3] sic0048:
Usually No. There are aspects of the ROM that are custom for the service provider. An AT&T rom won't work on a Verizon phone without being tweaked and having a Verizon version released.
[AT&T LG G3] _Infamous_:
Couldn't flash said failed for me
[AT&T LG G3] Mistertac:
Could be bad download, also do you have BusyBox installed?
[AT&T LG G3] _Infamous_:
Bad download :)
[AT&T LG G3] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Correct, it could have been a download of a download from somebody that new somebody that downloaded it.:cyclops:
[AT&T LG G3] _Infamous_:
No I meant it was a bad download thanks
[AT&T LG G3] Mistertac:
The download that [MENTION=990284]TonyStark[/MENTION] speaks of is the worst type of bad download....
[AT&T LG G3] noobchef:
Hey guys. First, I know I'm not supposed to flash firmware that isn't specifically for my model. I read that other people had success so I decided to try it for myself. I probably should've just flashed it vanilla instead of going through the aroma installer and getting feature-happy. I probably should've just waited for a ROM in my model forum (D850). Lesson learned.

Second, I appreciate the comments. I feel my next step is to flash D855 TOT and DLL. Its a soft brick right now and I'm reluctant to do this and rendering it even more useless.

Heres the thing. I downloaded the LG universal drivers for it but ADB still fails to see it. Flashtool fails every time and says its a different device and to check the DLL. If I could somehow use the hardware buttons to reboot into recovery I may have more hope than flashing even more firmware that isn't made for my device. FML.

Ok, thanks. Once again suggestions are appreciated.
[AT&T LG G3] Mistertac:
I've not been in your situation myself, but I think I saw someone on here mentioning that had to push the correct build prop file to their phone for things to work correctly.

I'm sorry you're in this situation, always better to read up and if you have any doubts at all to just hold off. I'm sure you realize this now [emoji16]
[AT&T LG G3] Mistertac:
Deleted
[AT&T LG G3] lingo2012:
Verizon has there first rom now im guessing it wont be long for us
[AT&T LG G3] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Not new sir. That has been posted for a couple days. Thanks tho, for trying:good:
[AT&T LG G3] _Infamous_:
Performance is no different my wife g3 is faster then mine at opening apps.
[AT&T LG G3] Sinterion:
I used the F400K dll with the 850 tot, it has worked for me

I didn't just mean as in opening apps, I meant overall, such as longer operations, persistence of apps (keeping apps alive) etc.

Bechmarks: Coming soon!

Sent from my Unlocked AT&T LG-G3
[AT&T LG G3] noobchef:
Alright guys. So a battery pull and a hard factory reset took me to recovery, where I restored my nandroid. Flashed it and good to go

Sent from a baked potato
[AT&T LG G3] _Infamous_:
Still phone feels the same but will give it a couple days.
[AT&T LG G3] xBeerdroiDx:
You should relax, bro. Shhhhh.
[AT&T LG G3] Mistertac:
There was some sarcasm in my earlier post obviously, wasn't trying to start any fights I promise you that. So my fault if that's how I came across... Hard sometimes to judge where one is coming from on here.

Although, I don't think I've been shushed before either so, I suppose we're somewhat even lol
[AT&T LG G3] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Absolute best question I've seen in years:laugh::laugh: Thank you for the chuckle;)

Simple answer is, now that root and recovery have been gained it will take a group to create ROMs with 'bump'

The OP of the bump thread explains the process here

BTW, did your Palm finally give out, or did you just wake from stasis?
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
We need the AT&T kernel... Radio... Etc.
[AT&T LG G3] heathroi:
well it seems to last me about the same time as the stock battery, any where between 24hr to 48 hrs (pretty light user)
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
Stand By....
[AT&T LG G3] neo4uo:
My prediction is a canned response along the lines of, "This is a google issue, you can contact their customer support at 1-800-bla-blaw" I give you an A for effort though. Many of us have already sent an email pertaining to this though. :(
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
Yeah, I spoke to Google already.. It's a LG matter.. Spoke to LG... They don't have access to that file.. It's a AT&T issue.

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ATTCares ‏@ATTCares 1m1 minute ago
[MENTION=2960434]xamadeix[/MENTION] Hey John, regarding your question, rooting is not something supported on your device and the warranty would be voided. ^Latoya

ROFL.
[AT&T LG G3] neo4uo:
Don't you just love the blame game errrr. I hate that they hold our phones hostage. Whats funny is if it was up to LG we would have the source. I believe AT&T is the culprit. The kernel source is on LG's website for Lollipop but that alone cannot help our devs from what I understand.
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
Of course, AT&T is playing hardball lol.
[AT&T LG G3] mrhaley30705:
You mentioned nothing about root, why did they?
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
No idea, Go on twitter and back me up! lol
[AT&T LG G3] 4NDROID4LIFE:
I really think there's is the exact same thing. D852 is d850 for Canada same bands etc
[AT&T LG G3] loganfarrell:
I'm thinking out loud here and I'm not entirely sure of anything, but would it be possible to extract the kernel and radio from the update and repackage thr rest as a bare bones temporary ROM for our phones and inject root, use that for a system dump, and then get the modules to Cloudy so we can start flashing their ROM?
[AT&T LG G3] 4NDROID4LIFE:
Here's the kdz for the d852

You can download the KDZ here: http://lg-firmware-rom.com/[/QUOTE]

Sent from my D850 T-Mobile SIM

Sent from my D850 T-Mobile SIM

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Sent from my D850 T-Mobile SIM

Sent from my D850 T-Mobile SIM[/QUOTE]

Maybe not found it in another post

Sent from my D850 T-Mobile SIM
[AT&T LG G3] elmerct:
So are you going to try and flash that kdz to test your theory? ;)
[AT&T LG G3] mrhaley30705:
If history of Samsung hold true, the Canadian radio will blank the imei number. That's if flash tool will let you flash it.
[AT&T LG G3] plaster:
I will. Let me borrow your phone. ☺
[AT&T LG G3] timmytim:
Everyone needs to go tweet [MENTION=271250]att[/MENTION]Cares and demand the Lollipop .tot. Sure, they don't have to give it up but they are the only carrier that doesn't release firmware and I wanna see what happens if we blow them up. What a$$holes.
[AT&T LG G3] ryotgz:
I replied to that thread and got a canned response:

I’m sorry that this happened. I’d be happy help you. Follow/DM your acct & contact info. Thanks, ^TorrieW
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
That's what I'm saying! And then they ask me if my device is rooted! LOL
[AT&T LG G3] newmind02:
What's the point of a developer program if you won't release all of your available tools?
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
Tweet em fellas.

Sent from my LG-D850
[AT&T LG G3] newmind02:
I tweeted them a few minutes ago about why they won't release the files while other carriers do. I'm no developer, but still wanna help however I can.
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
That's always a good attitude :D
[AT&T LG G3] timmytim:
Wait til you see the conversation I am having with Rhonda at [MENTION=271250]att[/MENTION]Cares!! I'll post it shortly
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
Hahah

Sent from my LG-D850
[AT&T LG G3] newmind02:
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say she's not being very helpful...
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
Probably not lol.

Sent from my LG-D850
[AT&T LG G3] eortizr:
c'mon guys don't waste your time. AT&T does not care. Your only chance is that some Dev achives root which at this stage it seems it will take some time...
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
Never hurts to ask lol.

Sent from my LG-D850
[AT&T LG G3] timmytim:
settle down.... I'm just trolling her
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
Lmao.. They are such hardasses about it. They obviously do not want to give it out.

Sent from my LG-D850
[AT&T LG G3] timmytim:
Yea, they aren't budging on it. Ah well. I would say it was worth a shot but clearly it was not....
[AT&T LG G3] normancase:
has anyone tried getting the update through the lg pc suite...i just talked to att they said you can get it that way i already updated my phone so not ready to go through everything to test it but if someone hasnt updated there phone it should be worth a try
[AT&T LG G3] roughriduz:
The update doesn't show up there. It just says the phone is fully up to date.
[AT&T LG G3] aybarrap1:
Of course not. However, I have to wonder if the rep even bothered. In my past experiences most of the initial phone or chat reps know very little aside from the script in front of their face. I found the best way is to explain immediately that I know the exact problem and the solution, but using the most technical jargon I can find to describe it. I then ask them if they can repeat it or put it in simple terms so that I can verify they understood my problem. I have not found one yet who can do so and I have always asked to be transferred to someone who can actually understand what I am talking about. It usually works to get transferred quickly over to an actual technical person...especially if you can utilize words or acronyms they do not know and they decide are too difficult to type into their systems.
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
Lol ..... I'm lurkin ... This I must say is entertainment

2SHAYNEZ
[AT&T LG G3] Eochai:
hahaha.... poor Rhonda didn't have a clue what timmytim was talking about!:D

btw - anyone else have the Beach Boys song "Help me Rhonda" start playing in their head while reading timmytim's screenshots?? ;):p
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
Help help meee Rhonda.

Sent from my LG-D850
[AT&T LG G3] timmytim:
haha, I hadn't thought of that. I should have said that to her
[AT&T LG G3] 4NDROID4LIFE:
[MENTION=3452732]timmytim[/MENTION] do you think we could use the tot kdz from the d852. I heard their phone is the same exactly but for the great white north.
[AT&T LG G3] insanenyc:
Good try timmytim
[AT&T LG G3] TemporaryTester:
See if you can get someone to rip the kernel and ramdisk from their TOT, as a first step. If we can get it to boot, we're set.
[AT&T LG G3] timmytim:
The problem is the boot image. We can only flash a d850 boot.img. Unless you have a huge set of balls and are flashing the entire tot/kdz to your d850.... In that case, I wish you good luck
[AT&T LG G3] 4NDROID4LIFE:
I'll do it tell me exactly what to do. They're the exact same phone. But if somehow I'm won't wrong lol can I fix it with the lg flash tool?
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
I don't think so. The flash tool won't be work because you'll have 852 firmware.
[AT&T LG G3] 4NDROID4LIFE:
I'm like 99.898% that their phone is our phone. They have to bump their stuff. They have the same radios kernel etc. Bell Rogers etc Canadian at&t phones
[AT&T LG G3] hyelton:
Carriers dont "release" the files... Specifically the tot files.. TOT files come from Chinese Sources 99% of the time.. So its NOT going to come from AT&T if and when it does..
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
I get that, but if you flash D852 firmware and try to restore via the flash tool.. The flash tool will not allow you to flash d850 firmware, Flash tool will tell you it's a mismatch.
[AT&T LG G3] loganfarrell:
Is there a way to edit the build.prop in order to allow it to flash?
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
Yes. I believe so.
[AT&T LG G3] loganfarrell:
If you know of anything, can you post here? I would hate for him to get ballsy and f*** up his phone without the know-how for an immediate fix.
[AT&T LG G3] timmytim:
It's not gonna work. I'm pretty sure that the .dll file and .tot must match the actual device model. Even though they are close, they are not the same device.
[AT&T LG G3] loganfarrell:
Wasn't there someone who successfully flashed an international TOT?
[AT&T LG G3] mjgspr95:
I have an unbranded .dll it saved me after taking ota with twrp still active.
[AT&T LG G3] loganfarrell:
Where does on acquire such a magical file?
[AT&T LG G3] MynameisJeff:
Why does AT&T have to be stubborn doucheballs about releasing what we need.
[AT&T LG G3] gpgon:
Same reason they block tethering and Google wallet
[AT&T LG G3] loganfarrell:
They for sure don't block either for me... I think tethering is free with family share though.
[AT&T LG G3] mjgspr95:
I forgot the thread... Took hours to find that night. I still have it on my pc though if it would help the cause.
[AT&T LG G3] TekGadgt:
If any devs can unpack the contents of a dlpkgfile, mine is posted in a separate thread in AT&T G3 General. Might be worth looking in to.
[AT&T LG G3] timmytim:
We tried the day it came out and for several days after. Even tried using Binwalk.... Nothing will open it :(
[AT&T LG G3] TekGadgt:
Also, what is the LGE_fota file for?
[AT&T LG G3] southern87:
Its the extractor or the updater. Its a linux program based.
[AT&T LG G3] TekGadgt:
If only there was a way to see what was happening in the background during the OTA update process. We'd be able to use the LGE_fota file to open the dlpkgfile no issue. Da** :(:(:(:(:(:(
[AT&T LG G3] akaHardison:
Who has been on lollipop and wifi 5GHz working and has rooted.Please give me your radio,thanks
[AT&T LG G3] timmytim:
There is no public root for lollipop yet so no radio available yet...
[AT&T LG G3] cables2590:
Sorry if this is completely wrong, but I remember when I had the HTC one x they were able to take an update from Canada version, and replace the bootloader and radios with the previous version of att bootloader and radio... Actually a developer named freezer was able to make a zip file for each part of the update... Like a separate zip for the kernel, radio, rom, and bootloader... Idk if any of this helps...
[AT&T LG G3] hyelton:
Yeah, But its not a bootloader problem here.

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Does no one read my posts about this?

AT&T is NOT the one who releases it themselves.. They NEVER have. Its usually a China Leak.
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
Yeah, I spoke to LG, They sent me to Google, Google sent me back to LG, LG sent me to AT&T, Now AT&T sent me back to LG haha :eek:

I'm beginning to believe a Stork from China drops it somewhere in the internet world.
[AT&T LG G3] hyelton:
Thats where the last several AT&T tot files for several LG phones have came from mostly.
[AT&T LG G3] cables2590:
Someone mentioned that we have to pay for it? It was a few pages back...
[AT&T LG G3] hyelton:
That was probably me :p Most where paid for at one point in time most of the time.
[AT&T LG G3] cables2590:
OK gotcha... So is there anyway knowing for sure they got it or is it just taking there word?
[AT&T LG G3] southern87:
Hey i paid 45 dollars to have my moto x unlocked from dude in China. He should really be more secure about his business lol. He had access to the database.
[AT&T LG G3] gpgon:
Old Grudges Die Hard
[AT&T LG G3] hyelton:
You'll know it will be being posted. I have a budget if I see it I'll buy it, unless someone posts it. But there's no guarantee that they'll be one yet though.
[AT&T LG G3] MynameisJeff:
Yes I know that. Just the fact that they have a developers program but never tend to their requests.
[AT&T LG G3] neo4uo:
There is a site where you can pay for kdz and tots usually 50 to 100 bucks. It is a Chinese or Korean site that has cracked access to LGs data base files. I haven't looked to see if ATT Lollipop is on there yet but I will be sure to look and if I find post here if someone wants to burn the cash.
[AT&T LG G3] TeflonMyk:
I'll be happy to chip in! The developers need all of the support that they can get! I appreciate the awesome mods and roms that they provide for our hardware.
[AT&T LG G3] zeio2040:
I'd be willing to burn the cash purely to have an available stock image. Where is the site?
[AT&T LG G3] hyelton:
I hope there not charging for kdz files. Those are public :p

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Its not available yet. Most G Flex 2 things right now I think.
[AT&T LG G3] neo4uo:
Unfortunately I do not think the AT&T files are public.

As you stated the Lollipop KDZ is not available yet. Here is the site if anyone is interested to keep up with:

http://bbs.gaodi.net/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=561&filter=typeid&typeid=2531
[AT&T LG G3] hyelton:
There not, but AT&T will be a tot file. If AT&T used kdz we would probably already have it.
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
Lol Im hilariously reading same questions and answers over and over .. :p

2SHAYNEZ
[AT&T LG G3] timmytim:
if you're talking about lgbbs.net they got popped and shut down. That's where the first Lollipop kdz's for the F400x and D855 leaked. They were awesome. I have the administrators email address and asked if he can still get those files but he hasn't replied. I will bug him
[AT&T LG G3] neo4uo:
I was talking about them. Hey if you get ahold of him get us a v410 for our 7's also ;). Seriously I am glad you are on that project.
[AT&T LG G3] mrhaley30705:
Yes, I second that.

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I don't know which I looked forward to more, root for Lp or twrp for kk.
[AT&T LG G3] peaceburn:
So it's clear that obtaining tot file will be much better than anything else, but I was exploring a different angle.

So the dlpkgfile and the lge_fota as are a patch (dlpkgfile) and a patcher. They're not the full lollipop distro, just the diff betweek 10d or 10f image and 20f.

That's why users on 10d got a 720 mb file and 10f got 697mb or whatever sizes they were - because less things need to be patched.

So because of that, my theory was that we could either do one of the things:

1) somehow mount in a virtual machines the images from 10d tot and run the lge_fota , make it update the images thinking it's doing an actual ota and obtain patched img files with the contents of 20f.

2) patch the lge_fota file, so it does something else besides applying the ota, like inject the root after the update is done. This will be fun and it already has all different capabilities to mount and what not.

3) I'm thinking the dlpkgfile is signed and we won't be able to alter it's content, unless we patch the lge_fota to skip over the signature checks. And we have to figure out how the diff was made and how can we inject stuff into the diff.

I started looking into disassembling the lge_fota with IDA but I'm definitely lacking the skill set to understand what's going on, but the file seems weirdly unprotected with lots of strings inside and you can get clear picture of whats going on if you had knowledge of arm assembly and generally can understand the flow.
[AT&T LG G3] southern87:
http://www.android-x86.org/
[AT&T LG G3] southern87:
Ok follow me here....building on this idea of android-x86 idea.

They have a source code what if we can build a iso image with the G3 tot files from there source?
[AT&T LG G3] 4NDROID4LIFE:
Confused about you saying twrpv for kk. It's out lol
[AT&T LG G3] neo4uo:
He meant for the v410 but that's out also if I can find the link I will get it for him.
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
good morning ladies. ;)
[AT&T LG G3] mrhaley30705:
It is now, but I remember the anticipation that built while waiting on the g3 to be unlocked. Its the same type of "any second now" anticipation we have waiting on root.

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Not twrp for the v410. I seconded the idea of finding a stock tot/kdz for the gpad. I don't like modding stuff if I don't have a way to return to stock.
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
True, I imagine once root comes.. development should pick up considerably.
[AT&T LG G3] KeeperOfThePizza:
Isn't 5.1 suppose to be dropping soon? I hear at the end of February?
[AT&T LG G3] daw41:
we won't get that update for a while we don't even have 5.0.2 yet
[AT&T LG G3] DigitalUnderground:
5.0.2? Lol. That release was mainly targeted at tablets, specifically the N7. The N5 didn't even get .2