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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] vagenrider:
vnrom v.6+latest twrp+latest lean kernel..results:not wokr..stuck at first post screen.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
I need more info other than stating "latest"

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] vagenrider:
ok..2.8.1.0 twrp and lean kernel v.3.13
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
Mention the steps that you took to convert

[MENTION=4865277]vagenrider[/MENTION]

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] vagenrider:
uploading video with all the process..

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[MENTION=4761989]Ianchua[/MENTION]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGHDFOi4J-8
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
According to the video you posted,

1. no back ups of EXT4 for your system,cache and data is carried out

2. you're supposed to restore the back up done in 1. After conversion to f2fs and no ROM should be installed for that

3. I suggest you read the OP thoroughly
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Tjoohej:
Quick question lanchua, did you convert the system Folder as well? I Checked the lk thread and users mentioned that lk Doesn't Support system to be converted to f2fs. Im running the same setup as you and i have converted data and cache to f2fs succesfully and it all seems to be working Great, restore success. :)

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] kpirnie:
lk does now support /system f2fs
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
The updated Lean kernel yesterday already had support for system wide conversion for f2fs. >V3.13

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Tjoohej:
Ty man, :)
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] vagenrider:
after about 5 hours find out that you must move the twrp back up to the micro sd because of the converting of ext4 to f2fs..and back again to device after the convert to start the restore..you must notice that to the people because you saying only that we must take back up..not to move it also to the micro sd..

so..

results//// WORKED!

the note now is really much faster....it worth the effort
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
Hope you enjoy your f2fs experience.

Thanks for mentioning the back up to extsd part. Sorry for the trouble.

Updated the OP as well

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] vagenrider:
the diffrence is big at the most of the functions,really thank you [MENTION=4761989]Ianchua[/MENTION]
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] vagenrider:
[MENTION=4761989]Ianchua[/MENTION] what kernel using? tried compulsion and ultimate and only lean worked..the others not even boot
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
Using Lean as well.

Like what I mentioned in my OP, ROMs does not boot up unless full kernel support for System-f2fs is provided.

And Compulsion and Ultimate did not have full or rather they had partial support only. Which resulted in your case where the ROMs does not boot up.

P.s there is a part in OP where I mention the compatible kernels. Please take a look at it.

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] vagenrider:
agree..
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] vagenrider:
good news,shinto kernel full support with tons of features..
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] derride8:
To revert back all i need to do is flash a new rom?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] twinh3ad:
Already got data and cache partition on f2fs for one month now. The question is, if I want to change my system partition to f2fs, will it wipe my internal storage too? If it does not, then I'm not going to do backup of my storage.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] antt00:
Yes it will. It is practically formating the internal sd to f2fs which means all your files will be wiped. So plaase do a backup first.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] scotteb:
Can anyone explain why the system partition gets to 97% restore on f2fs and fails. Ext4 restore all day long no problem. Lean kernel 13 and all other partitions as f2fs no problem. Just system
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
I need more details such as the ROM that you're using

This could probably be due to the fact that your system is too heavy. And some trimming must be done in order for TWRP to successfully complete the restore operation

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] scotteb:
I just thought on that when you said. Using jamals s5 port in n900w8. U know the max size ? Ill delete some and try again with system

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Good call.. was over by a few MB Thanks for catching that
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] dangluong:
can i use CWP to convert ?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] kpirnie:
Not sure CWM supports it yet. Try TWRP instead
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
Nope. Only TWRP supports conversion on the recovery part for now. Otherwise my OP will state otherwise

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
Updated OP to reflect f2fs compatibility of Shinto kernel

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] dangluong:
I've just flash stock ROM and root device. I can ignore step 2, step 11-12?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
No.... Conversion to another file system would remove all data's within those partition<Simply saying that it also deletes the entire firmware from the partition blocks.

So no. In any kind of conversion to another file system, a back up and restore procedure should always be there

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
No. Please read the bottom part of the OP. There is a Step-step procedure on reverting back to ext4

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] tkari4:
[MENTION=4761989]Ianchua[/MENTION]

Just as info! Maybe it helps for someone..

I had problem after wiping the recommended partitions.

TWRP 2.8.0.2 was unstable. My phone rebooted by copying the backup from extsdcard to sdcard.

2nd try was succeeded, but restore wasn't possible after pressing the restore button my phone rebooted every time..

Only TWRP recovery re install saved my phone. :p

Than I was able to use the restore function.

Where should I see an improvement?

Because for my eyes it looks like the same as with ext4 was.

My Rom (MultiX) is almost stock odex. (maybe because of the odex no improvement :confused:)

;)
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
Alright.

Firstly,Like what I've mentioned in my OP, I have stated that the recommended version for TWRP was 2.8.1.0 which proofs to be the best at work for this function of the recovery.

Secondly, Did you do a complete conversion of all 3 partition blocks? <System,Data and Cache. Coz if you did convert this 3 especially for System, the difference would be there and I'm sure some reading of the posts prior to this by other people would justify this.

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] tkari4:
True, but the latest version on the download site is 2.8.0.2. (maybe I'm just blind)

Yes. checked with DiskInfo. System, Cache, Data are f2fs.

I'll test it some days long. I have only one phone so can't compare it. ;)

or three.. deodex vs. odex. vs. f2fs :laugh:

With Antutu my phone had 300 points more, but Antutu never shows the same score.

edit: OK i see now 2.8.1.0 is available on the mirror download site
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
I have some screenies of my test with Antutu.

After conversion to f2fs.......

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] vagenrider:
mine is..

(this score is before the n2fs...soon will try with the n2fs to see how perfect the world it is)
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] ramon.nmgn:
Is there a solution for my problem?

http://xdaforums.com/general/help/f2fs-external-sd-problem-t2960274
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] kpirnie:
fraid not bud.

in TWRP you can switch to MTP mode and see if you can copy everything off it so you can reformat it to a compatuble f.s. like exFat... otherwise may have to go back down to CM11
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] YRAJ23:
HI

Dear [MENTION=2162886]lanchu[/MENTION]a

Do i need to do this everytime I flash new custom roms ?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] kpirnie:
i had to.

both with a CM based and TW based rom.

The script that does the rom installing usually tries to mount the partitions as ext4... so if its not that already it will either fail to install... or end in a soft brick.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
Conversion of extsd card is Not recommended. I don't think any devices has support for reading of f2fs SD cards . the ones I seen are only ext fat or vfat

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
Nope. Most probably not. But just in case I'm wrong about this you can try it yourself. No harm trying right??

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] ramon.nmgn:
Thanks it worked. Went back to CM11 with F2FS option. Transferred al my data to my PC and formatted my EXT-SDCARD to EXFat.

Great!
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] BiIIyTheKid:
this thread about convert file system or convert rom ? because they are different things . im checked all of thread and i didnt see anything about rom convert ....
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
Your ROM lies in your System partition. So it actually also means converting your ROM<System/ with a kernel that supports it.

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] YRAJ23:
[MENTION=4761989]Ianchua[/MENTION] I think I screwed the whole process when tried to revert back to ext4. now, when i boot into recovery, my internal and external card seems to be empty and no backup present. Any help ??? :(

I was using lean kernel. I made a backup of my ROM in external Sd card.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] vagenrider:
rather accidentally chose some wipe to the external also..You can not do anything now
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] YRAJ23:
No other way ??
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
Just check that Your system, Data and cache are converted back to ext4. If you don't have a back up, just flash a ROM over and you'll be back with ext4.

*Remember to Not wipe your external SD when attempting an operation such as this

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] vagenrider:
..the worstest scenario in this process is to format extsd..

and also [MENTION=4761989]Ianchua[/MENTION] must include it to this guide that people must avoid this conversion with roms with big system partition because the process fails..even 100-150mb lower system partition can make the diffrence..
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] saadramiz:
Leankernel proves to be the most stable kernel as it has always been But even for the f2fs. Although the dev had added the support later compared to other kernels But his work is fool proof as always.

And I advise keeping the extsd file system to exfat as it seems to be fastest for extsds of 32 GB and above.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
Its clear enough on the OP that one should only convert System,Data and Cache any misconception of converting any partition is most likely personal user error.

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
I don't think there is any mention of converting the >ExtSD< to any other file system other than its stock file system in my OP.

As the steps I posted only clearly mentioned about converting SYSTEM,DATA and CACHE only.

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] saadramiz:
Many readers were showing the intent to convert their >ExtSD< to other file systems. So that part of of my post was wholly and soully targeted towards them.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
Yeah I'm aware of that. And the reply was meant to be a warning or reminder for people who go through the thread looking for answers relating to this.

No pun intended at you buddy?✌

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] TSO of Stormwind:
Have you got any suggestion to quickly restore my apps and data after wiping and converting?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] kpirnie:
that depends.

Did you follow the instructions?

Since you are asking this question my guess would be no you did not... in which case you are s.o.l. bud.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] TSO of Stormwind:
I didn't read the last step (restore previous backup).

I'll try and report back
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] raggamuffin:
Worked a treat. Thanks! :)

International Note 3

Jamal S5 Port v40
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
Glad you liked your new experience on the new file system

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Tjoohej:
I have not been able to restore my system Folder after converting it. The size of the system is 2069mb,us that still to big? Fails at the end everytime.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] kpirnie:
consodering your system partition is only 2048mb... i would say ... yes
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Grooby97:
technically the partition is 22xxmb but F2FS used up about 200mb for something.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
Corrections, F2FS does not increase the file size during a migration from ext4. It depends on your original back up that you made. If its size is considerable big, TWRP would not have the resources to complete the restore. Hence the failure in restoring.

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] vagenrider:
agree [MENTION=2162886]lanchu[/MENTION]a people must carefull withe the system partition size.an alternate way to do this on large system partition roms is flash normaly on ext4 and debloat the rom manualy but only if you know what you doing..get nandroid and start the n2fs process..
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Grooby97:
I never said F2FS increase the file size. However, F2FS uses additional space for log tracking and such. On a newly reformatted f2fs partition, do a df -h on it and you'll see that space has already been used up.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
I see. It wasn't clear enough in your previous post so I thought you were mentioning about what I was thinking about.

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[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] BLiNKT:
Does i must change to f2fs everytime when i flash other rom or update of rom?because i today reflash my rom and i have again EXT4 and not F2FS
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
Reflash?? Did you mean restoring with rm-rf unclicked?? As flashing an update over does not change the fs to f2fs
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] tkari4:
The updater-script in the Rom formats the partitions back.

mount

ext4: mount("ext4", "EMMC", "/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/system", "/system");

f2fs: run_program("/sbin/busybox", "mount", "/system"); <= it's for any file system

wipe

ext4: delete_recursive("/system");

f2fs: run_program("/sbin/rm", "-rf", "/system"); <= it's for any file system

I played with it already, so some more info can be found here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=57488576&postcount=2421

;)
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] kpirnie:
thanks bud.

Now if only edify was smart enough to detect which file system was already available... we could write out simple if statements in our installs :)
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] sweeney_uk:
Can I give a word of warning... Don't use mobile odin pro to flash anything like modems etc. It will not boot the recovery and even on flashing twrp the system partition will not be available to restore backups or flash a new rom.

Had to flash stock using odin on the pc and then I could restore backups and convert back to f2fs as the stock rom converted system and cache to ext4.

Hope this helps anyone who got into this situation.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] tkari4:
I did it already. :D

True the MOP flash kernel isn't compatible with TWRP it can be used only with CWM based recovery I think.

If it happened, than all partition must be re formatted, than the Rom must be re installed kernel and recovery too.

(I didn't tried to restore an backup, because I didn't had one)

Tried to warn my Rom users here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=57378150&postcount=2404 ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] tatoo069sv:
I too have the problem of converting my system to f2fs. My data and cache have been done a few weeks but system fails at 98%...think 50mb to big. I have a good backup on external. I'm running jamals s5 rom and shinto kernel on n9005. Any advise guys on what I can remove to give me the space so I can convert the system. I have tried many many times.

Regards
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] BLiNKT:
I must flash rom again because is something goes wrong before that few days ago i change system to f2fs so and after i flash rom i see my system changed back to ext4 format so there is my question does i must change back to f2fs everytime when flash other roms or just flash same rom again?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] linx1287:
i just had a few questions before i jump ship to f2fs and i could really use some help

1. i think i already figured it out by reading most of the previous posts that it wont work...but is it possible to do the extension conversion and then flash a new rom instead of restoring? as far as i could figure out the updater script or whatever changes the format back right?

2. i know there is a reverting back to ext4 given in the OP but can flashing the stock firmware with ODIN also do the trick or do i HAVE to use that method to revert to ext4 before flashing with ODIN?

Thanks and sorry if the questions were either noobish or asked before
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] orbital_71:
lanchua do u have any good tool that can backup to pc? Thanks
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
If your system fails to restore at 90++% it means that your system/ properties have too much data in it. Which causes TWRP to fail the restore due to the sheer size of the system. Try removing some extra bloat from your system and try again
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
1. This does work. But It requires a kernel that's fully compatible. <Compatibility list in OP

2. Yes. It does require a full restore instead of a ROM flash over successful converted partitions.

3. ODIN is able to do all the job by reverting all 3 partitions to Ext4. So you're perfectly okay if you're using my guide to revert, you'll be alright same with ODIN
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
Nope.

What I do when my SD card can't be used is that I back all the partitions needed, and I copy the file to my PC into a folder

And when I'm done converting, transfer it back to the phone and than restore
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] niezamema:
if i leave just my data partition in f2fs,will it cause problem or anything?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
There's a chance that your ROM won't boot due to the system reading the partition as corrupted. So it would be best if you convert all 3
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] niezamema:
ok.thanks for the info..yesterday,after i restart my phone(with all 3 f2fs),my phone hang..eventhough that i've been running with it for about a week,seem ok,but yesterday,it wont boot...

so,yesterday i've restore my backup that i've made before i convert to f2fs,now everything is ok..but my data still in f2fs because it must be done manually..i guess i need to revert back to ext4..
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
That's great! How do you move the position of the status bar icon ??
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] asusgarb:
how can i change dpi? with texdroider or changing directly build.prop?

EDIT: please delete, wrong thread. sorry
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] BLiNKT:
can anyone help?i try this and i do with tutorial but on last step where i must restore data there is not my backup which i made first now i stuck on samsung galaxy logo!!what now?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] tkari4:
If you didn't copied the backup from internal to external storage, then it's gone.

Format the partitions back to ext4 and install your Rom again.

Try it again, but next time move the backup from internal to external storage, because the internal storage will be formatted.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] BLiNKT:
Yea i not copy backup to external...Where is backup storage?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
I can't stress this enough as this have already been stated in the OP.

The backup that you perform should always be stored in a External SD Card or External Memory drives so that you wouldn't lose your backup when you do the conversion.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] sp47:
guys hello

anybody used compulsion 16 kernel on f2fs?

it stucks on samsung logo

with lean kernel works good
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
My OP already clearly mentioned that Compulsion kernel only had partial Compatibility with f2fs mainly on Data,Cache partitions. System is not supported yet.

Lean kernel on the other hand has full f2fs support for all 3 partitions
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] BLiNKT:
i know that but where can i find backup when i make it?so this is means i must do backup that reboot phone and use any file manager and move backup to external storage?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] ginbo:
Working on lollipop tw rom?
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] joluke:
No. TW was a leak. Not an official release.. When samsung releases the sources then you will see kernels that support f2fs...
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
After backing up and converting,

Go back to TWRP main menu and select restore. And than select the backup which you just performed. And voala.

P.s you can select to back up your files to EXTsd card
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] freakerload:
Why cant i use @ f2fs wipe data,cache,system and install a new rom in recovery with leankernel?

It is not booting.
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Ianchua:
1. This thread wasn't created for a secondary option in converting as its probably not possible.

2. The Roms that you flash over would revert the f2fs converted partition back to ext4 due to some script that's within the zip.

3. I know its a tedious process to convert,but trust me its worth the trouble. So try your best to just stick to what my OP states......

Regards,
[Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nap286:
I keep having the same issue.. After i format to f2fs I'm unable to connect my phone to the computer..

Thus I cannot restore.