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[Nexus 6  General] tweaked:
Well, I just bought a nexus 5 last week. I was entertaining the return Idea. But WTF..Not at this point.

I'll use the N5.

I also have a grandfather ATT account with a FAN 18% Discount. In 3 months my upgrade shows up. I may still check out the N6, if nothing more than to Unlock it, Root it, and sell it on the bay for a profit.
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
Same here. Probably throw a couple hundred at it and my bill will be lower.
[Nexus 6  General] qwerty12601:
So you can't understand how a loyal customer base of nexus purchasers who have grown accustomed to getting top flight spec devices at an affordable price off contract for years are disappointed now that the new nexus device is a top dollar phone? That's really that hard to fathom for you?
[Nexus 6  General] BennyJr:
My only thing is why does it come with an OS that supports 64bit but doesn't have a 64bit Processor ...
[Nexus 6  General] Alix8821:
EXACTLY... I did that with G3. Treat it like an update with a more restrictive carrier. Put down 200-250, lower monthly bill, and enjoy Pure Android!

Im so excited. I love this G3, but nothing beats Pure, Stock, Android. Especially 5.0 Lollipop. on the beastly N6. I'm ready!!!
[Nexus 6  General] franatic08:
Too bad it doesn't mention the IP classification.

Without it, it's hard to determine how resistant it really is.
[Nexus 6  General] expiredd:
Too expensive.. I think I'll stick with my Nexus 5. But my screen is cracked. Does anyone know where I can find screen replacements (just glass not screen).
[Nexus 6  General] daddioj:
i cant believe how everyone is crying about price. where were you guys all these years with sony htc and SAMSUNG with there inflated prices and bloat
[Nexus 6  General] donharden2002:
Where can I get 2 g3's for $650?
[Nexus 6  General] aletto:
These people bought Nexus devices?
[Nexus 6  General] qwerty12601:
Buying nexus devices with no bloat and non inflated prices. That's why we're disappointed. Pretty simple logic huh?
[Nexus 6  General] daddioj:
no compromises. as far as we know. i rather pay higher premium then take away things to make up for cost. buy a oneplus
[Nexus 6  General] NICEGYPT:
If the materials like Moto X will never buy it. I have Moto X they gave it to me at work and my phone is M8. Moto X looks inferior to my M8.
[Nexus 6  General] samarth1:
What I do understand is the endless pages of complaining that entailed said "top-tier" devices on this very XDA forum about wishing for a better camera, a better battery, and a better build quality that didn't involve "compromises" to meet a specific price point. Or how they would gladly pay a higher price for a device more premium, that didn't involve the basic business limitations that comes with creating a device around a price point, vs the other way around.

Nexus 5: 1080p IPS LCD

Nexus 6: QHD AMOLED

Nexus 5: Starting price with only 16gb storage

Nexus 6: Starting price includes 32gb storage

Nexus 5: 2.3GHz S800 processor

Nexus 6: 2.7GHz S805 processor (note, 2 generations ahead)

Nexus 5: 2GB RAM

Nexus 6: 3GB RAM

Nexus 5: 8MP OIS Camera

Nexus 6: 13MP OIS Camera

Maybe, the problem here is us starting to believe we're entitled to top of the line hardware at prices that don't make manufacturers money. Seems both Google and Motorola are in the business of making money, not merely breaking even or selling at cost. Give it a break, and buy a different device if you feel the Nexus 6 doesn't meet your budget. You can't have everything in this world, and likewise, can't have premium build and specifications for the same price. That's not how companies do business, and you shouldn't expect that just because Google decided to try out a different strategy with the Nexus 4 and 5, as opposed to the Nexus One, Nexus S, and Galaxy Nexus (all 3 incidentally came with premium pricing, until Google decided to bring back the Galaxy Nexus on the play store and start selling devices on their own portal again).
[Nexus 6  General] TiltedAz:
Mot gets to set prices. Gotta wonder how much is related to increased costs for being American designed.
[Nexus 6  General] cavanman:
Not for me.

Too big and too expensive and no 64-bit.. Why is the Nexus 9 almost half the price?

Can't wait to see the reviews though..

Previous Nexus phones were always ideal for me. Looks like a pass this time.
[Nexus 6  General] qwerty12601:
Great. explain to me where the "premium" comes into play. The 13mp moto camera, which if similar to the moto x is going to be a disappointment? Or a different moto camera which is known for disappointing cameras.

Or this EXCEPTIONALLY large device with a QHD display, and average battery size in comparison? The battery is definitely not a beast by any means for a 6" QHD amoled display.

This appears to be a very solid, well spec'd phone. Not by any means leaps and bounds better than any other nexus at the time of THEIR release.

So as a nexus user for years, I have the right to be disappointed in the price. And it seems as if that's the consensus at this point.
[Nexus 6  General] orvon.freeman:
$649 Really Google

I know I will not be getting it. I will stick with my OnePlus One
[Nexus 6  General] aletto:
Sure but as technology advances, one can expect better hardware for the same price. Especially in a market that develops as fast as smartphones.

I would argue that most phones already are overpriced. Compare the profit margins of companies such as Apple, Samsung or even Google (although this is a bad example because they are a software company first) to companies that sell cars or stuff like that. The IT industry has huge profit margins in general.
[Nexus 6  General] rollerdyke44:
is no one going to mention that the hugh 'M' (above the sexy "nexus" letters) kind of makes the phone ugly.... well, it does for me :P

And besides the price, a much bigger reason why i'll pass on this is its huge size. If i wanted a big phone i'd just get a note, and not a nexus. That has stylus afterall which is useful and its possible to completely ignore touchwiz (launchers, apps etc)
[Nexus 6  General] mELIANTE:
Am I the only one who remembers that the launch prices of Nexus One, Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus were as high as this one?

I don't think you can call it a trend when less than half of the Nexus phones were budget priced.

With that said, it still sucks!
[Nexus 6  General] aletto:
Personally, I'm not too happy with the N6's design (never was a fan of Motorola to begin with). Compared to the N5 it misses the simple, curvy and modest look.
[Nexus 6  General] lude219:
Day 1 purchase.

Nexus line was good in the past but there's always an inkling that the build of the device didn't quite stack up to the likes of Samsung S/Note, HTC one or sony xperia line. They were purpose built, plain Jane with decent specs but now it looks to be a serious flagship contender out there. If the price is of any indication, Google is going upmarket with this series and if you're looking for a mini nexus 6, get the moto X.
[Nexus 6  General] magnamentis:
error in thinking

that is an error, while an lg g3 comses with a similar price tag you can get it for around €500 or even less on amazon and elsewhere while the nexus devices and their price tag in playstore is somehow fix and if you get one it's only little cheaper and often not unused. i bought my n7100 for 450, the lg g3 for 485€ is in the mail and the oneplus one for 299€ and compared to this this device is overprized IMNSHO
[Nexus 6  General] mk92595:
Got a Nexus 5 off eBay for $250. Its about 1/3 of the price of the N6 and still relevant
[Nexus 6  General] blaze0303:
Glad I didn't wait for it, picked up a Oneplus One instead... Wish that price was lower though.
[Nexus 6  General] Alaris:
I've been looking at the moto x myself.
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
The N6 announcement just increased the value of my Nexus5! Thanks Google ;)
[Nexus 6  General] Fr3lncr:
And since the 64GB version will probably be between $800-$850 CDN, that's a good $400 increase over the N5. Unless something spectacular about it comes out in the reviews, I can't see me getting one. A $200 premium over the N5 would have been my limit.

Really disappointed.
[Nexus 6  General] qwerty12601:
True, however when did the popularity of the nexus line shoot up? As soon as they provided devices at a reasonable, unlocked cost.
[Nexus 6  General] Fr3lncr:
I was considering the Moto X (as I like the feel of their phones) but 32GB of space isn't enough for what I store on my phone. I've heard they might release a 64GB version down the road, and if they do, I'd consider it. Though I'd still have the potential battery life issues with the X (from what I've read, it isn't that good) and as someone whose Nexus 5 needs to be charged twice during the day when I'm using it a lot, I'm looking forward to having a phone that doesn't require me to carry an external battery pack to get me through the day.
[Nexus 6  General] reinert012:
I know it's rooted and everything but i dont think the development is there. Also..dat battery.
[Nexus 6  General] mELIANTE:
True, but I was only mentioning it so people remember that Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 were the exception and not the other way around.

Maybe it will bite them in the ass and Google will see "the err of their ways".

Oh well, looks like my Nexus 4 will be with me for a little more time. Maybe the Moto X 2014 will have the same sales as the og Moto X?
[Nexus 6  General] qwerty12601:
Same here. My nexus 4 will remain with me as well. My moto x pure edition will be here tomorrow and I always want one nexus device in my possession...
[Nexus 6  General] Super Chimp:
Why are people surprised by the price as I imagine it's a combination of not wanting to undercut the other Android manufacturers and following in Apple's wake of a healthy profit margin on their devices.
[Nexus 6  General] qwerty12601:
Surprised and disappointed because it's not what anyone was expecting given the last 3 years. Only time will tell how well it sells, however it's a drastic change from the Nexus model of the past few years.
[Nexus 6  General] lude219:
Concerning battery life, no one knows anything of how this phone will behave in the real world. You have a super efficient SoC compound that with android L and extreme battery saving mode, so let's hold off judgment until real world test is in place. Personally I've never had any issues with battery life on any of my phone because I'm not one of those clueless people who have a bunch of mail and social media apps doing push notification every 30sec.
[Nexus 6  General] dhoshman:
I think this will be the first Nexus that is bought mostly through some type of carrier subsidy. I can't really complain, I mean the spec sheet on this thing is only really rivaled by the Note 4 and it's priced similar with a smaller screen. I wish Google/Motorola could have priced it cheaper, but it is what it is and I'll find some way to purchase it.

I keep thinking about the good reviews the Note 4 is getting from most sites and how smooth it runs with the Snapdragon 805. Imagine how well the Nexus 6 will run with stock Android 5.0. I can't wait until November.
[Nexus 6  General] Tricepz:
So disappointed from the pricing of this device.

Nexus is usually a near top end device with awesome prices thus it's success.

Google turned to a new direction, super high end, probably this will be an awesome device but 650$.. i think ill pass.
[Nexus 6  General] Fr3lncr:
Yeah. I had almost everything disabled on my N5 (background updates, location tracking, whatever) and for a 'normal' day at home, my N5 would be okay (not great, but okay) but, for example, on holidays when I'm using google maps for directions or transit info, taking pictures, or looking for places to eat, I'd get about 3-4 hours before having to charge it up. Hopefully Moto will release a 64GB version of the X sooner than later.
[Nexus 6  General] lude219:
Do you use tasker? Probably the best app for automation and battery saving. Currently I have GPS enabled only when map is opened, otherwise it's off. Of course I have about 10 other policies to handle other automation.
[Nexus 6  General] dralways:
Even if I could afford 10, nope not going to get one.
[Nexus 6  General] funkyblue04:
I'm more concerned they have released a brick. Why can't we have a phone 5", stock Android with a killer battery life?
[Nexus 6  General] Note10.1Dude:
Exactly. I want a Droid Turbo GPE on a GSM carrier.
[Nexus 6  General] bdotwoods:
No on size, HELL no on price. I'll keep the Nexus 5. Know they're trying to make a profit, but... nah. nope. noap. no thanks. It ain't for me.
[Nexus 6  General] kevinlevrone:
At least you can be sure that they won't go out of stock a few hours after launch :)
[Nexus 6  General] Jonnyredcorn:
I'll pass on the 6. Too expensive. The Nexus 5 is more than capable. I easily get through an entire day on my battery(that includes the entire night prior as well as I charge before I go to bed). Also the camera is great. Maybe not when it first came out but updates have addressed most issues(still a little slow). Other than that I don't see what caused a $300 price hike other than greed. Its a slap in the face to the most loyal android users.

Being on AT&T and not being able to unlock bootloaders is what made me get my first Nexus phone(the 5). I replaced my Galaxy s4 with the Nexus 5. I was(and still am) happy that there was always going to be the Nexus line to allow me to get a pure Android experience for under $400-$450. Prior to the Nexus 5 I was on a contact but satisfied as I could flash a custom ROM to get that pure Android.
[Nexus 6  General] stangy:
wrong forum
[Nexus 6  General] HUNTERANGEL121:
Way too expensive for a nexus device.... Pass....
[Nexus 6  General] sabre31:
Not sure why everybody is complaining about price. I had every nexus except the nexus s. I remember paying 650 for first nexus and then 750 for the other nexus devices. Not only until nexus 4 did prices drop. This phone can't compare to n4 or n5 those phones where build to be cheap from get go.

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Lol nexus where never cheap devices until nexus 4 was released. All other nexus I paid 650 for the first one and then 750 for the others. I skipped on nexus s that Samsung made. So not until n4 was prices lowered and the reason they were lowered is because n4 and n5 where build to cut corners in one aspect or another and save price.
[Nexus 6  General] PhantomGamers:
The Gnex also launched on the Play Store at $399, but it was available prior from the Carriers for a higher price.
[Nexus 6  General] fix-this!:
Google just wants to fail. No way in hell im paying that for a nexus. Or what i call a motox on steriods. Ill keep my m8 until the m9 hits. I hate the motox design anyways. If your gonna spend 650 you might as well get the note 4.
[Nexus 6  General] badboy47:
Actually I am doing that :). Nexus 5 is my last stop for Nexus devices. This is my first time switching to Samsung device.
[Nexus 6  General] El Daddy:
As someone who imported the Galaxy Nexus for $739; $649 is a great deal.

I'll be buying one the minute it's available.
[Nexus 6  General] mudnightoil:
The price of the device is probably not that unfair .. but getting to within $100 of the Note 4 is probably a big commercial mistake. I don't expect the screen, camera, build quality or phablet features will be even remotely in the same class.

Also, as so many people have said, this is not throw away money any longer, and the device is also gigantic and not everyone's cup of tea.

Can't see this being THE primary development platform for Android Kernels and ROMs like the Nexus 4 & 5 were. In fact, I can't even see it being ONE OF the primary development platforms. Think we'll see a big shift to Samsung, Sony and the numerous Chinese OEMs.
[Nexus 6  General] bTrizzy:
$650 and still a bargain. I will be preordering this ASAP.
[Nexus 6  General] Daps:
After thinking about it $650 is probably on par for the specs. It's just now I"m unwilling to spend $650 on any phone. At the end of the day I mostly text/hangouts/web and a few apps so it wouldn't make since to spend that much on a phone. I'll probably get a MotoX after Christmas, maybe the price will drop a little bit more:) I would get the MotoG 2nd gen but it's only 3G and being in a LTE city I may as well take advantage of it since my cell plan isn't cheaper for using 3G

I knew the N6 was going to be more than $350 but I was hoping it came in at $450-499
[Nexus 6  General] 3473:
I'm not sure whether people are stupid or just have short memories:

Nexus One - High end phone, no compromises, high end price tag

Nexus S - High end phone, no compromises, high end price tag

Galaxy Nexus - High end phone, few compromises, high end price tag, later reduced to a lower price

Nexus 4 - High end phone, with compromises (battery, camera etc), medium price

Nexus 5 - High end phone, with compromises (battery, camera, horrendous viewing angles), medium price

Nexus 6 - High end phone, no compromises, high end price tag

If they build a high end phone , they charge a high end price. They're a business at the end of the day, or did you forget that? They haven't always been cheap!!

I can understand the disappointment over the screen size but good lord if it's too expensive for you I'm sure there's lots of cut price Nexus 5's you can get on ebay.
[Nexus 6  General] Ulver:
Same here, I think I imported my Galaxy Nexus for $775. Also, I got the Nexus S for $550. I damn near ordered the Z3 for $699 a couple days ago. So yeah, I'll be getting this day one. I don't mind paying more, you get what you pay for!
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
I'll be ordering it AOSP!
[Nexus 6  General] daddioj:
i think just stupid :laugh:
[Nexus 6  General] 3473:
A lot of the fanboys who have whined on and on for 2 years about how Nexus is so awesome because of the fast updates and 'true google experience' are going to look a bit hypocritical now when they get a chinese import phone because they can't afford a Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] dwxvi:
Despite working minimum wage in Alabama ($7.25/hr), I've already got a plan to budget out my money to pick up a Nexus 6. If my plan fails, well, then I'll pick up a new HTC One M8 or something. I was spoiled by my first real Android phone, which was an HTC One M7. Those speakers and that aluminum just spoke to me. Either way, I'm determined to get a Nexus 6. My flashaholic ways have really taken a toll on my Nexus 5 :P
[Nexus 6  General] Nucleotide:
I've seen comments like this all over the internet today. It's too pricey "for a Nexus device".

Why are people instantly assuming that just because it has the Nexus badge that it's a cheap device?

So all Nexus devices 'must be' sub $500 otherwise they aren't Nexus devices?

I just don't get it. I think it's about time Google partnered with a manufacturer like Motorola and knocked out something more premium then past devices. The N6 was 'never' going to be sub $500. The early leaks that suggested the huge screen and specs put it above that $500 mark instantly. I certainly wasn't expecting a sub $500 device anyway.

People really need to get over this 'Nexus devices must be cheap' mentality.

Google / Motorola are knocking out a BIG, powerful device, with what appears to be great build quality. They are starting to play among the big names like Samsung now. I think you can kiss your cheap/average build quality devices goodbye.
[Nexus 6  General] msal:
The reason people assume Nexus is cheap is because that is the trend that Google has set forth for the past few years.

Personally, I am willing to pay a little more to get this device.
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
Most ppl who complaint about the price are just clueless and don't really think I believe. There isn't a cheaper phone out there with similar specs. The closest thing would be a very laggy LG G3 with the S801 and a smaller battery.

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Thank you. The Galaxy nexus, that was overpriced. I believe it was somewhere around the same price as the nexus 6 but even then running a slower Omap SoC compared to what Samsung had and HTC. And it was all plastic. Ppl didn't really complaint then cause Google had never released a nexus with a $349 price tag. Then nexus 4 came out with that price and everyone's jaw dropped. Then nexus 5 same thing so ppl got used to it. Then they announce the Nexus 6 with the highest possible specs you can have today and up the price and they cry like babies. If someone is disappointed about the display size I can understand but not the price cause it is justified. Maybe Google should release a smaller version with a 1080 p and a smaller battery to give ppl the smaller price tag....oh wait, nexus 5 is still available.
[Nexus 6  General] 1ceb0x:
I have read every post here...

I came to the conclusion that people complaining for the price are mostly - students or people that are jobless (or the job pays too low for that matter). Don't get me wrong, i don't have a great paid job as well, but if i think about what i bought this year, i am going to get this phone unless the reviews will be horrid (QHD with 3220 mAh battery - G3 reviews anyone?).

I mean, i bought 2 N4 last year, one was lost, in just 4 months.

This year i bought an LG G2 with a price tag of 600$.

Snapdragon 800

5.2 IPS+LCD display

13 mp ois

Crap software on top

Mediocre camera (compared to OPO at least)

Bad bad bad sound - mono speaker

Awesome display and awesome build quality (i like it curvy)

So, i pay 50$ more and i get the latest and greatest? Hell yes.

And TBH - the N5 64 GB on play store is 399$. The N6 on 64gb will be 649E (dunno the price in $). So a bit more and you get a better device overall.
[Nexus 6  General] PunishedSnake:
Pricy yes maybe that's why they still have the n5? Maybe they will replace that n5 with a motox lol
[Nexus 6  General] bajasur:
Is it me or is the price comparable to every other phone with high end specs on the market right now? Previous nexus devices were mid range and it looks to me that Google/Moto tried to up the stock Android experience this go round and I think it's kinda cool.

Been waiting for a super high end aosp device. Just my .02 cents
[Nexus 6  General] mgbotoe:
All this comment about for nexus device is getting ridiculous.

When did google EVER tell you that the nexus line is for cheap people? I'm confuse

When did google ever say, we will make nexus for people who do not want to spend top dollars for top specs or for people who cannot afford top specs for top dollars....like im sooooo confuse!

You will not find such TOP specs at anything lower than 500 dollar, plain and simple. Fast charging alone will boost it up by 50-100 dollars. End of the day, you are also buying google logo.

Get with the program people
[Nexus 6  General] 1ceb0x:
True and true.. Like i said, G2 is priced around 600$ (at least where i live now) - and it is nowhere near N6 :). And G2 is released at the middle of 2013. You get a phone released end of 2014 with almost the same price. ALMOST.

And BTW, there's a picture lurking around the internet N6 head to head with an Iphone 6 5.5". The N6 looks like a 5.95" in a 5.5 casing :) - not that big IMO.
[Nexus 6  General] mgbotoe:
Iunno man...that iphone is pretty ridiculously huge lmao ...oh the irony, i really can't wait to go back to work and ride my coworkers about it. I had so much crap about my Note 4 and my G3 it is not even funny. Yet, they are the same people floading my facebook with it...

I know off topic, was just funny lol