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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alhadee12:
Just hold the button on the S-Pen and hover over the text and you'll see a line that will allow you to select the text.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slickmastajay:
I'm sorry to hear that but i came from a note 2 and on this note 4 i have amazing reception. I have lte almost everywhere i go now whereas before i had 4g
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GatoL0c0:
Thanks, that was the piece I was missing....the slight hover at the beginning before dragging. :highfive:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alhadee12:
Did anyone come from a Apple product or at least tried the iPhone 6 Plus?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RiverCity.45:
My wife bought a 6+ when it was released. I've used it some.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iunlock:
From the original Galaxy ---through--> Galaxy S4 -> Note...skipped the S5 because I had the Note II -> Note III -> Now .....NOTE 4

Extremely happy with it. Can't gripe about much but here are some things I really wish they kept on or

added*

:

USB 3.0

Tempreture Sensor

Humidity Sensor

Speaker on the bottom and not on the back like it is now on the Note 4

4GB of RAM*

Here are the things I'm very grateful for:

The best screen EVER to date

Faster CPU

Faster GPU

METAL!

Better Camera/Sensor

Slightly bigger battery

Relocation of the SIM and microSD slot! No longer have to remove battery like you did on the Note 3

Redesigned rear cover (MUCH better, no more fake stitching)

Curved 2.5D screen

Heart Rate/O2 Sensor

UV Sensor....ehhh...either way pretty cool, but I'd rather have a TEMP and HUMIDITY sensor instead

METAL!

Did I say METAL?!

Finally what we've all been waiting for. A phone that feels like a million bucks in your hand.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alhadee12:
Did you like or hate it?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RiverCity.45:
I didn't hate it. I'm not an iPhone guy, but my wife loves it. She hated her Android phones, so she's happy. That's good for me.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alhadee12:
I agree with you on that. My wife loves her iPhone as well.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m3lover1:
The latest device I came from is the LG G3. Before that from last year, I went through the Xperia Z, HTC One M7, LG G2, Xperia Z1, before settling on Nexus 5.

I love the Note so far, first note I've tried. One thing I don't like is the lag from pressing the recents button, but I can live with it. Also not fond of the gap on the right side as I constantly have to blow the dust out, but again I can live with it. All in all best phone I've used so far and touchwiz is not as bad as it was before.

One thing though, I do like to use the pen to write my texts or Web addresses sometimes, and it's quite finicky in terms of recognizing what I type out. Sometimes I have to erase and retry several times which is annoying.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LifeAsADroid:
Save me from having to get the Nexus 6 monstrosity.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Jaocagomez:
this only factor its keeping me from over hype myself to this phone, if someone roots and unlocks bootloader this beast. will be the android phone of the year on size specs and battery.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] fury683:
That's where I am. N6 is too big. I have a Moto X and Nexus 7 (both 2013), and the N6 is just too big, based on the PhoneArena size comparisons. I need root, so the N6 has a slight advantage right now.

I love the idea of a Nexus phone, but the Turbo has most of the features I would want, like Moto Apps (same/similar to Moto X), wireless charging, amazing battery, and it's not so big. I know the N6 will be easy to root/unlock, but I don't if that is enough to outweigh the size.

Price is still an unknown on the Turbo, too. I have to think it's less than the $649 of the N6.

Semi-related.. Another thing I was thinking about the other day.. the Turbo has capacative buttons, with no menu button. My Moto X has on-screen buttons and does show the three dots from time to time that works as a menu button on the right side of the nav bar. How would the Turbo handle such a situation? Would the developer be forced to make a menu button somewhere in their app?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Cowbell_Guy:
Don't forget about the note 4
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
I'm confident we'll get root. Almost every phone out there has gotten root, most without much delay.

Time will tell though
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zathus:
This might be the first phone I might not care about root. I don't use hotspots. Its 90% pure Android with actually useful extra features. With 3 gigs of ram and that battery, do I really care about bloat apps? I think maybe unicon and xposed might be my only reasons. And there not just haves. Of course I want root. Its my phone. But it won't be a deal breaker for me.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] fury683:
I've been spoiled by Xposed, and do use hotspot for my N7. I also use some Tasker profiles that need root, so it's kind of a must for me. I agree with [MENTION=725893]rajuabju[/MENTION], at the rate things have been going, it won't be more than a few months. Who knows, maybe this latest Moto exploit will work. Or maybe the middleman will have codes for the Turbo. We'll know in a few weeks, I guess.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LifeAsADroid:
Lol, exactly why I won't get a phone without root. Xposed and the hacked hotspot app for VZW. Also why I would like it "permanently" unlocked (like the RAZR HD was - a blown fuse that can't be fixed or "patched" once destroyed), easier to flash SuperSU.zip onto the phone after every update without worrying about "is it safe to take the update or not? Will I lose root?"
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] grin0048:
How much success has there been unlocking bootloaders on these Verizon Motorola devices in the past year or two?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] fury683:
My Verizon Moto Maker Moto X is unlocked. The Chinese middleman was unlocking Moto X and another Moto phone.. Maxx or Ultra, maybe?

And SunShine seemed to work on most Droids.

Unless you were being sarcastic, in which case, you got me.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] grin0048:
No, wasn't trying to be sarcastic at all. I've been rolling with my S3 for the past 2.5 years and haven't been paying very much attention outside of that. I was somewhat aware that it was possible to pay some...one...thing...idk to get some of these Motorola devices unlocked--what a strange situation that is.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] fury683:
I would say there are probably equal odds that SunShine works for Turbo, or that Moto patched it. But given the propensity to root/unlock devices, it will happen rather quickly.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joshm.1219:
Sunshine won't work for the Droid Turbo, yet.

It only works for 4.4.3 and below, the Turbo will undoubtedly be released on 4.4.4 or 5.0, but that doesn't mean it won't eventually work. It's the only hope though.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dimex:
I've been out of the CDMA loop for years and years and years now. Don't these phones use SIMs now? Is it just a matter of software unlocking GSM frequencies or is it still completely different hardware?

I was a phablet user for 2 years but went back to a N5 and am actually liking the smaller form factor, and would get this over the N6. A stock 5.0 port making this GPe would sure be sweet.

This phone looks geeat, but I'm on TMo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] fury683:
The SIM is for LTE only, I believe. The rest is done over CDMA. I believe the N6 has a US edition and a world edition, so the US edition will work with all major carriers on all bands and won't really be "different". The Droid line is Verizon exclusive, so it will be locked to CDMA and Verizon's LTE bands.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Metfanant:
you could pay a middle man to send you an unlock code but you needed to pass along your IMEI number to get it...now, sunshine seems to unlock just about all of the Moto phones from 2013 afaik...

i HIGHLY doubt sunshine will work out of the box on a Turbo..but heres to hoping...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pjd2011:
I used the MiddleMan for my Moto G while I was on a prepaid Verizon plan. $45 well spent.

I was VERY lucky to have gotten my Verizon HTC One M7's bootloader unlocked the first day it came out Verizon blundered and didn't turn off that capability through HTC right away.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] roddem:
Will this beast be available worldwide or only in the US ?

PLEASE say worldwide.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LifeAsADroid:
PLEASE don't troll threads with your stupid questions that have nothing to do with the topic.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lioryte:
What's going on brother
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] huntb:
Is this an answer to our prayers once we get the 5.0 update? Until it gets patched at least...

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/supersu-beta-lollipop-root-stock-kernel/

Someone help me understand what this actyually means
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] the_rooter:
From what I read this method is allowing to run full stock kernel other than the previous method of not using a full stock kernel. I dont think this will help us but i could be wrong.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] r3pwn:
No, not quite. Please read my reply below.

You are correct. This will not help you get root. Here's what happens: Once an exploit is found, the superuser binary and app have to be installed to the system. However, in KitKat and Lollipop, a few changes were made that required more modifications. Originally, it was thought that Lollipop COMPLETELY broke root to the point in which it would REQUIRE a custom kernel to just get root. That is just a method of keeping root on Lollipop without a custom kernel once an exploit is found.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Sup bro?

Long time no talk.

Spent the last few months in a Windows Phone detention camp :p Nah, good phone, good OS, poor ecosystem.

Now I am back ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joshm.1219:
I went there before, doesn't it feel nice to come back? :p
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
It does.

I really wanted to like Windows Phone, but I think its going to die a grisly death.

The battery life alone vs. Android is stellar.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joshm.1219:
Yeah the OS was designed well and the battery life was insane considering the capacity of the device I had (8x). Just felt so limited compared to what I could do with Android. And the ecosystem will be the death of WP.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] huntb:
So can you explain this part of the article to me? Makes it sound like this also unlocks the bootloader somehow. Or does the bootloader remain locked, but we gain root access?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] r3pwn:
No, the bootloader remains locked, but we gain root access, as long as we have an exploit, which, unfortunately nobody has yet.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jal3223:
Have any wifi tethering options been discovered not relying on root?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gqskrub:
No, and there is another thread to address this. There is only a wired option.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dansan382:
ran this on my girlfriends turbo yesterday, worked great. Loved watching apps vanish in the app drawer.

Only weird thing I ran into was, when I went into settings > apps > all, I saw apps like NFL mobile or VZ navigator and I was able to disable them, even though I already ran the script. Once i did that they completely disappeared from the apps listing. Wondering why I had to disable them twice, and since they are gone from that list not sure if I can even turn them back on if I wanted to manually.

Edit: actually, im so use to using CM roms on my own phone, I assume they will all be in the "disabled" tab in the apps page of settings. have to check her phone when i get home.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Because you had updated them. pm block disabled the original version only.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dansan382:
I dont remember updating them but I didn't run the script until after the HD calling update came through. so is disabling through the script enough or should i also go through the settings > app > all menu and turn them off as well?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Its easy not to remember, apps auto update when you first sign in.

That said, if you didn't, and they still show after running the script, then the internal app names have changed.

Either edit the script or disable them manually. Updates uninstall.

you can get a list of packages installed with adb shell pm list packages
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dansan382:
good to know. guess ill just go through the settings > app > installed list manually and start disabling them. should be good after that.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Ohmster:
Is correct, there are no wireless tethering options available for phones without root. However, the clockworkmod USB tether is absolutely fantastic! You can try it for a week free I think, and it cost about $5. You plug a USB cable into your phone and PC or whatever you want to tether by USB. This work so well I actually use it sometimes when my cable modem goes out and get 20 megabits per second speed by using this method on 4G. I hope this helps you, considering it's your only option. But if you can put up with the USB cable, it does work very, very well.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] assasin34:
still no root???!!!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LifeAsADroid:
This surprises you? Really?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] NegativeOne:
This is a little off topic, but... I just got a new phone... an LG G3. I was previously looking at the Droid Turbo, which is how I come to have a subscription to this thread. I bought the LG G3 because I could root it and do stuff with it... It was down to LG G3, Galaxy S5, and Turbo. Turbo fell out because of the root. I'm pretty happy with the G3, but I keep thinking back to when I had the Droid X, which was my first smart phone ever. No phone since has compared in terms of build quality. It was such a well thought-out phone, hardware speaking. It also had a locked bootloader that never got cracked (iirc), which was a huge disappointment.

Seeing that this phone still hasn't been rooted makes me disappointed.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
An alternative viewpoint is that it is refreshing to find a more secure Android device.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] smokie11:
I have one regret with the Turbo, I lost my wifi hotspot and is not worth it to me to pay Verizon $24 a month for the occasional use. I don't need root to be happy with my phone but not having the hotspot does bother me. I do have backup with my wife's Note 3 the wifi hotspot does work... still I do miss not having it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] drumrjoe:
Decision time

Hi all,

I bought a vzw droid turbo on 12/30.. to replace my 2013 moto x dev. edition rooted.

I can return my turbo within 2 weeks and might get the new 64gb 2014 moto x pure edition..

My question is which phone do you think we be rooted if at all? Which first??

Thanks in advance,

dj
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lafont28:
I could be wrong but I thought the pure edition was GSM only
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joshm.1219:
It is
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] drumrjoe:
I was told by VZW that the 64gb pure edition on the moto maker site will work on VZW.. So that is what I was going by.. I also believe that the VZW version is sim locked and bootloader locked
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] joshm.1219:
It doesn't, look at the band's for yourself on their website. No CDMA. All Verizon phones that have LTE are SIM unlocked but they are all also bootloader locked.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] djbling:
Let us know how that works out for you. I thought about getting the G3 before I got the 64 gig Turbo. The reason for my voice was I knew that Motorola usually has the best radios and I've never owned an Lg phone and wasn't sure what to expect.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] LifeAsADroid:
Have the G3 now. Couldn't wait any longer for the root / unlock to happen on this phone and have also lost faith since VZW and Motorola have become the no-fun police. As for the G3, I'm not regretting the decision at all.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrynalyne:
Congrats.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] djbling:
Thanks for your quick response! Choice not voice...damn spell correct! I had figured that most things can be done without root nowadays, but boy did Verizon prove me wrong! Love this phone....recovering crack flasher
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Cowbell_Guy:
Honestly all I really care about through root is the ability to WiFi tether. Appatthere are some non-root apps that let you do that now?

I'll probably buy this phone either way... Nexus 6 just too big... But would love to remove bloat, tether, and get Google wallet on this thing.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jfriend33:
Dan Rosenberg said it best. We need to take into consideration the phones we buy and their ability to be modified.

I feel confident we will get some form of root on the turbo. It may be a while. Great time for me to kick back relax and enjoy my lg g3 and droid maxx. When root or unlocked bootloader is out, the price will be better most likely.

I am just worried about how android L and rooting will be. And I probably should be using a developer edition. Still leaves me two decent choices if it becomes an issue. Nexus 6 or note 4 developer edition.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] NegativeOne:
This is sort of the question before me right now. On one hand I am thinking of waiting to see what happens, but on the other... If it comes out with v1.0 software, and it's cracked, and I wait to order the phone until it does, then by the time I get mine, it might have v2.0 of the software where the exploit was patched. What do you think? This sort of thing happens all the time.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] razz1:
I totally agree with you. I am definitely due for an upgrade but my only other option I would be interested in is a M8 because its unlocked but it doesn't even come close to this phone on the spec sheet. So what great device can you go with right now that's unlocked with a ton of development for? Not much IMO. I'm also not going to pay some $700.00 for a device I won't want to keep more than 2 years.

So my point is, why wait when you probably wont buy something different anyways, and getting in on an unpatched kitkat is looking better than an updated 5.0
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pjd2011:
My guess is this device is going to garner A LOT of support from devs if it can be cracked. Yeah, there's the Nexus 6 but it's simply too big for many.

Maybe I'm wrong. Hopefully I'm not.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jfriend33:
Very valid points. But I don't envision having a hard time finding one on swappa. I guess one could argue the reason why there were so many 16gb droid maxx's for sale so cheap is people had problems with storage space? And that there could be fewer turbos since alternate upgrades aren't as easy?

I feel confident that with the amount of competition we will get what we need in one form or another. Fingers crossed.

It's easy to get hyped up. And the battery size alone has me excited for the turbo. I just really really hope the moto X play comes so we get more accessories and more development.

Remember with phones, grass is always greener. Note 4 dev edition is my last resort for rooted lollipop.

I'll never forget Google IO 2012. I had jelly bean the day after. And for a full year before my friends. That was a great Google memory. Remembering this makes me long for the nexus 6. Sure it's battery isn't as big as the turbos. But it can recharge fast.

I just want a effin convertible device. I shouldn't have to carry a phone, tablet, and laptop. If I get the turbo I'll rely on my Nexus 7 2013 and laptop. If I get the nexus 6 maybe that's all I'd need?

My droid maxx fits my hand better than my lg g3. And active display is sweeter than wannabe acdisplay on my g3. But at least with the g3 I've got choices for cases. But bottom line nobody beats a Motorola radio....

Sent from my unlocked consumer edition Motorola Droid Maxx xt1080m.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Lw00d:
i hope with Sunshine V3.0 we will be able to get bootloader unlocked ..
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GoodRevrnd:
So bootloader aside, is it likely this phone will actually get a dev edition?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheWhiteChallenger:
Last year no one thought there would be a Dev ed Ultra much less a Maxx so im still hoping motorola will pleasantly suprise me again.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pjd2011:
I'm actually thinking this is going to happen pretty quick. We just need to stay on 4.4 instead of jump right into 5.0. As much as that'll suck it'll be worth it to have root.

Considering Lifeproof already announced a case for this device I bet this phone is going to have A LOT of support. No other HTC devices or any Android devices besides the S3,4,5 have them.

Yeah it's just a case but obviously people excluding us tech heads think this device will be a hit.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jal3223:
On a side note, I wonder how the case situation will work with the nylon version being a bit bigger than the other. I doubt they would make two versions of a case.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] masri1987:
So I just bought two note 4, and i'm seeing the same problems on their forums, no root, possibility of no root, can't even write on the SD card due to restrictions... So obv should I trade em out?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pjd2011:
I honestly think the Turbo has a higher chance of being rooted and unlocked than any Samsung device. There's a reason Knox is the real deal.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] masri1987:
The talk on the note 4 verizon forums are depressing even regarding root.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Fu5ion:
the nice thing is that even if we don't achieve BL unlock, this phone is almost entirely vanilla android, so I'd be okay with that. Root woud be nice, but i could probably live without it if i've got the vanilla android experience.

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my assumption would be that the back of the case would have a bit of flex to it, so it could accommodate both. The nylon version is only .4mm thicker, IIRC
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ap3604:
Same here.

If it comes thats cool for other people that like to tinker, but since it's 'pure' android I am perfectly happy the way it is.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] chriskader:
If need be, 2 versions will be made. They did this for iPhones back in the day.

I did not know in could buy a Developer edition phone on Verizon edge program. I always thought they had to be purchased from Samsung or Google.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Fu5ion:
Where did you get that info? That's news to me too.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] chriskader:
Guy with a huge reply stated it earlier in this thread.

---------- Post added at 01:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:07 AM ----------

Here ya go
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Fu5ion:
Ah yes I see that now, must have missed it. I think he may be mistaken. I googled "Verizon edge developer edition" and found that the Galaxy s5 dev edition was not available through edge, so I doubt that this one would be (if a DE is ever offered)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] chriskader:
I think the point of a DE is to make it so few people can get it. If it was cheap everyone would have one.