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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] papped:
Do the charging contacts between the back of the phone and the QI receiver have to actually be separate?

ie. if there are 3 contact points in one hole in the phone, can they all connect to the qi receiver via 1 wire (per arm on the receiver) without issue? Just wondering because i plan on modding by extended battery door to have the qi receiver reach the contact points with the fat battery in place.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mcdanishdk:
Power/speed of charging

I too wanted to utilize the possibility of wireless charging on my S4 and bought a set on ebay. But did I get the right set? The base says on the back it charges with 1A, but the insert inside the phone only charges with 600mAh. It is from the same seller and sold as a set, so I am wondering if it was mismatched? Does any of you have a set tht charges with more than 650mAh? If the battery is low, it takes almost 4 hours to fully charge, so I would like to get another set to have by the bed and that will charge my phone before I wake up by the alarm. Can anyone recommend a wireless charger for the Galaxy S4? I know this thread is for the note, but who knows ;=) Have a nice day, all.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] rcobourn:
Nothing wrong with any of that... 4 hours is reasonable too. If you aren't sleeping at least 4 hours both you and your phone are going to need a recharge before the day is done. ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] XavAcid:
I don't know if anyone is having the same problem, sometimes I put my phone on the charging pad and the light on the pad turned blue indicating that it is charging, but there was nothing on the phone, no notification about wireless charging, even on the battery icon didn't show it as charging. I had to turn the phone off and on again, then it starts charging. My receiver is the Qi-infinity one.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] xdm9mm:
It could be loose connection between the receiver and the phone. Make sure the contacts are seated and aligned properly.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] TeamHackura:
Is the infinity good. One I bought doesn't work
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] XavAcid:
I took the back cover off and made sure, but then I taped down the receiver so the chance of it moving is kinda slime to none, and it only just happened recently. I'm waiting to see if it'll happen again.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ARoninLiberal:
It worked right away for me. I did not have to play around with it. I have the Verizon not-rooted Note 4.

I used the app GSam Battery Monitor to verify the amps of this receiver on my Note 4 with an Otterbox Defender case, and using the DigiYes® Qi Wireless Charger Charging Pad for Samsung.

I closed out all the apps using the Active Applications widget and then using the Greenify app to close out any other apps in the background.

GSam would show an average of 480 mA. One time I seen it get up to about 525 mA, but it could get in the low 300's too.

I think a lot will depend on your charger, any case you have on, and what apps may be running in the background since they take away from the the mA GSam registers.

With the Defender Ottercase on and a cheap single coil charger, there is not much room to play around for getting it to sync up with the charger. A couple of millimeters is all I can play with. I use a stethoscope method for placing the charger on the phone and then set it down on the surface.

I ordered the Insten®QI Wireless Charger Receiver compatible with Samsung Galaxy Note 4 for $11.19 (vs the $19.99 for the Infinity One). It boasts it can charge up to 1000mA, but it doesn't advertise NFC support like the Infinity One does. I will hopefully get it this week.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] kms108:
Don't get your hopes up, no QI charging can reach 1000mAh.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ARoninLiberal:
Of course it's never going to reach 1000mA. They all parse their products with "up to" phrasing and I personally seen the Infinity receiver stay below its "up to" 600mA it advertises.

I'll be glad if a receiver can get about 80% of its stated max.

Like anything else, companies test their products under controlled and ideal environments...
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] xdm9mm:
The best Qi receiver I have used on Note 4 is the OEM samsung. The coil is in the middle as opposed to the side like on the fonesalesman brand. The OEM also charges quicker than third party. Only problem is it adds a little thickness and you are limited with your choice of cases. I have tried all the spigen cases and none of them fit. The Verus Thor fits and the finger sensor also works... I am really happy with this combo....
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] rickadlee:
Does wireless charging work with the Verus Thor case? I have a Spigen case that just stretched over the sides with the oem back. But I have issues with the wireless charging dropping in and out every few minutes, causing my phone to vibrate and notify that wireless charging started.

Hoping to find a case that works perfectly!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] xdm9mm:
Yes wireless charging works without problem.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] rickadlee:
Awesome. I've ordered one. Hopefully receive it next week. Cheers!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] A|ex:
fonesalesman coil on mine is in the middle and i can drop phone on qi without any issues. How did you work out it was on the side? are you sure its not the transmitter ?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kinsman-UK:
Mine too - I'm using a 3 coil charger though (CHOETECH Stadium) so maybe that makes a difference, but I just drop it on (dead centre) and it charges fine. I steered clear of the single coil chargers as they're a bit hit and miss with the positioning.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] xdm9mm:
I was using the one which is the long version and NFC compatible. The receiver sits on the battery....
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kinsman-UK:
Yes, that's the one I have - would take a pic of the phone sitting centred on the CHOETECH charger, but just boxed up my old Note for eBay and don't have a camera handy :silly:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] TeamHackura:
This version got poor reviews but costs less. What the difference?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00OF...man+note+4&dpPl=1&dpID=51+XyuZOJ5L&ref=plSrch

Or this one:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00OF...man+note+4&dpPl=1&dpID=51+XyuZOJ5L&ref=plSrch

Already tried a combo listing that had receiver and charger with no luck.

I have two cheap chargers now that SHOULD work so just need a receiver that doesn't add too much bulge. Using Body Glove slim case FWIW.

Thanks, all!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kinsman-UK:
Hi [MENTION=4233532]TeamHackura[/MENTION]

As far as I'm aware the version you link to is the older one which is slightly thicker and does not have NFC built in. This is the one I have:

http://www.amazon.com/SlimPWRcard-integrated-compatible-recommended-SM-N910W8/dp/B00OFKS66G/

It has NFC built in and is thinner. There is a slight bulge under the flash, but it's barely noticeable, and not at all if you have a case on (I use a UAG). I have been very happy with it, using it about a week now. I also have two of these chargers:

http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Charging-Blackberry-included-coil-black/dp/B00JA7HNZO/

I keep one by the computer for trickle charge during the day, and have the other at my bedside for overnight charge (great for this as there are no beeps from it). I don't have any problems aligning the phone on the charger, it always connects first time, and I just set it down square on the centre - never have to think about it. Just be wary of the cheap chargers as many of them will be single coil, which means they will be harder to position the phone on - the one linked above has three coils.

Those are some pretty nasty reviews on the receiver you posted - I can only assume the manufacturer made some improvements on the slim version as I've had no such problems. When installing, however, I didn't use the adhesive tape on the receiver at all, I just positioned it and applied two small pieces of scotch tape to keep the contacts down, then replaced the back cover of the phone to keep it all in place (didn't fancy sticking it to my battery).
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] TeamHackura:
Many many thanks!

I'll order the one you posted. I am going to try my two pads but if they don't work I will buy the one you posted. Thanks again!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kinsman-UK:
No problem, hope it works out OK for you. I did a lot of research online before choosing this setup, I also looked at these receivers:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00PN4GXKO/

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00OY34FBE/

but finally decided on the FoneSalesman model and the CHOETECH charger and have no regrets.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] TeamHackura:
Great. Ordered and going for best. The cheap Chinese one I ordered before also created a bulge even with the body glove case which prevented the phone from laying flat
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] seriosbrad:
Long shot, but does anyone have experience with having a Scosche (or similiar) metal plate in their phone/case with a Qi charging base? I have the Choetech Stadium charging base and it won't charge my Note 4 through the case if I have the metal piece inside for the magnetic mount on my windshield.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mrm1:
Any one tried one of these non genuine qi back cover. Looks like it would allow fitting in to other cases without the bulge

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/171722980565

Don't know how well they work though
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] greatg:
I just received the OEM wireless charging back cover and I was wondering what the best recommendations are for a case that does not add bulk?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] TeamHackura:
Got receiver. One of my pads won't work at all. The other pad constantly connects and the disconnects. Guess I'll buy pad you recommended
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kinsman-UK:
Oh dear :( What brand are those pads? Hope the Choetech works OK!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] TeamHackura:
Lol "brand".

One is black and one is white
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mrm1:
Bit the bullet and purchased one of these from a UK seller, and it seems to work perfectly, the coil appers to be in the centre of the cover so positioning is not a problem and NFC work fine too. The cover does not appear any thicker than the standard cover, so any case should fit. I am using a Neo Hybrid Metal and charging working fine through it. The cover is obviously just plain plastic without the feel of a genuine cover, but if you are using it with a case, it does not really matter. There does seem to be a vey slight bulg in the back, but unless you are looking for it, you might not even notice.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] TeamHackura:
Got the Choetech in yesterday. Haven't had time to test much. A bit hard to position since the size of the note 4 eclipses the pad. It does seem to stay connected which is something I haven't gotten in the past
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] xdm9mm:
hi, what kind of bulge and where specifically is the bulge? do you mind posting pictures please... thanks
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mrm1:
To be honest, you can hardly see the bulge. Its about 10mm below the flash. In fact its probably just not 100% flat rather than a bulge. Sorry about the pic quality but had to use my nexus 7 to take them.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kinsman-UK:
Yes, I find setting it in on dead centre and then shifting it slightly to the right makes for the best contact (this is with the USB cable coming out the rear). Remember also that you can turn the Note 90 degrees so that it's 'sideways' on the pad. I just tried this for the first time and it made contact and started charging straight away - in fact this just might be the easier way to use it! As you say, it's easier to see the pad when the huge phone is oriented the other way and not covering the whole pad :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] TeamHackura:
Thanks. I did try the 90 degree thing but I couldn't get a good charge rate.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] xdm9mm:
Thanks a lot, maybe I will buy this and remove the Qi and use the original Samsung cover, but I might have to cut some parts of the cover...
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mattkroeder:
I ordered a Qi-Infinity receiver on amazon and I'm not a fan the instant I snapped the back on the N4

There's a very noticeable bulge/bump at the back where the chip is on the receiver itself. I guess it's going back.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] TeamHackura:
Need another pad for office. Anything like this less than $20? There was one from Spigen on sale for $15 earlier today.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ender200j:
I got one and placed it. My battery temp went up an discharged much faster for the day. I went to charge it and the thing practically melted. The leeds felt very loose when installing. Any thoughts? This is what i have: http://www.amazon.com/wireless-inte...p/B00UBVR81C/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] willstay:
After lots of thinking, I went with OEM cover. I used Qi receivers in my older Notes. I was always worried by heat generated by them. Heat kills battery longevity and Qi sits just over the battery is a bad idea. The added thickness of OEM must have been designed so it doesn't directly touch the battery. And interestingly, phone doesn't even get warm. I wish someone tested temperature difference at the surface of the battery when using Qi vs OEM.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] xdm9mm:
Well I have always used third party Qi receivers since the days of S3, which we used to modify a Palm charging coil... and I never had a problem with the battery...
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] TeamHackura:
This morning I awoke to my phone frozen with screen off and blue notification light on. This has happened once before with a different wireless charging combination and touchwiz Rom on my note 4 iirc. Very big problem for people that use phone as an alarm. Anyone else?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kinsman-UK:
Are you still using the Fonesalesman N4SlimPWRCard? I'm still using it - a month and a half now, overnight charge with the phone off and occasional top-up during the day - haven't had any problems at all as yet. Had your phone actually charged when this happened? Is it possible the contacts have slipped, or did you stick them down?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] spierce617:
I have been using this one for about a week now and no problems.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OFKS66G?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] TeamHackura:
Yep. Been using the upgrade phone salesman receiver. Contacts seem good when I look. Can't recall if phone was charged but I don't believe so. Think it was dead.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] segura.org:
$5.99 http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=191386110619&alt=web
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mrpickem:
The one I posted actually included a charging pad as well. I got one of them cheap asian qi pads and they work but have small sweet spot to get them to work. I use RavPower pad and it connects very easily...never got more than 650mA current through wireless charging with Note 3 using similar insert though.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] segura.org:
If you paid $8.99 it is receiver only from what I can tell
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] sincerity:
yea wonder if these from ebay add thickness. I used similar for my S4 back in the day, and while the back did snap on, it definitely bulged out a little in the middle....
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] segura.org:
For sure they will. I ordered the $5.99 one and will report back when I get it sometime next month
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] skrubol:
Yes, your line of thinking is incorrect.. Two issues, first, every antenna does put a load on the radio station transmitter, difference is that a radio station is transmitting 50kW, and your radio reception consumes microwatts. Also it's near-field vs far-field. The arrangement of the magnetic and electric fields wrt to one another is different.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mrpickem:
Ah, yes you are correct...8.99 each for pad and receiver or 16.99 for both
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] imnoob55:
Preordered the s-view charging back cover:

http://www.mobilefun.com/48525-offi...te-4-s-view-wireless-charging-cover-black.htm

Supposedly these will be in stock in first part of November.

They're here also on the official samsung site for germany:

http://www.samsung.com/de/consumer/mobile-device/accessories/wireless-charging/EP-VN910IBEGWW

However still not in stock
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] MMakoto:
Hi, i have the s view cover, which is thicker than the original back cover, by chance you might know this piece could work with it? i've read from the past that the original covers would bulge a little bit in the middle, so i'm not sure if these products has changed or still with the same thickness. thanks in advance.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] CyclingDev:
note 4 receiver

While browsing your link to order the Note 4 receiver, I stumbled upon this page (https://www.shoplocket.com/products/3qBaB-qistone-bundle). I’m not sure if it’s a mistake but it looks like they’re selling the power bank AND note 4 receiver for the price of power bank alone (from Amazon)

So, it looks like you could get a receiver for free in addition to the Stone power bank, seems pretty reasonable. Ordered a bundle.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] paesan:
Here is a place to get the s-view wireless case for a great price. When I had the S5 I ordered the wireless back cover from them.

http://www.shopblt.com/item/samsung...s-charging-black-s/samdrv_epvn910ibustah.html
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] segura.org:
Got a notification mine shipped from China already. I'll update when received.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] imnoob55:
Thanks very much! Any dollar saved is a dollar earned!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] segura.org:
Ordered 2 from them when there were only 13 backordered. Fingers crossed
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Tikerz:
I just ordered a receiver from here also.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191386110619
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] paesan:
The way I read the backorder is, there are 40 incoming and 28(at the time I viewed the stock) of those are taken by pre-order?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] nerys71:
So. confirmed source for 3rd party reciever that has NFC enabled?

I already have a nice transmitter pad just need the receiver for the note 4 and I do use NFC so that is important :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] segura.org:
Not confirmed
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] nerys71:
Hmm guess it was bad wording. I am not asking for "not confirmed" I am ASKING if anyone "HAS" a confirmed source of qi charging with NFC.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] RaymondPJR:
Now that's what you call inexpensive! I looked at the description and it says it won't interfere with the normal operation of the phone. I take that to mean it won't affect NFC. When do you get it?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ilordvader:
Which are the Top rated NFC Qi reciver for Note 4 ?

any recommendations ?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] segura.org:
There hasn't been one for sale yet that says NFC, otherwise we would have mentioned that in this thread, and noone has received the ones that are for sale to try it out yet.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] segura.org:
There aren't any for sale yet that say NFC, so nothing to recommend
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] 1iam5mith:
Why do you need a Qi charger with NFC ? Doesn't the battery have the NFC chip built in...

Can I not use a standard S View case along with one of these receivers?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] nerys71:
Because nfc is a lower power transmission and the qi coils effectively blocks nfc. So the qi coil in the pad needs tobalso have nfc. Some of those other contactor pins are for just this purpose.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] RaymondPJR:
You don't say! That's the first I've heard of that, thanks for the info! All this talk about NFC along with the wireless coils was not making any sense, lol! Still, on my S3 I had no problems.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] 1iam5mith:
So could a qi coil fit underneath the official s view case?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] willstay:
Most of the Qi receivers that have surfaced sit over battery which do not align to the center of the phone. It would be hassle to position phone over charging pads properly.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] paralogiX:
Does the samsung s view cover QI support nfc too?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] sejtam:
This one claims to have NFC:

http://www.amazon.com/YooTech®-Stan...1414400396&sr=8-3&keywords="galaxy+note+4"+qi

---------- Post added at 05:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:12 PM ----------

I see the original S-View Qi back, which seems to include the front-cover. Is there a Qi back only, so that one can combine it with another case?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] GPetrow:
Best Buy is now showing the "official" Samsung charging back as "coming soon"... wasn't even on their site yesterday.

Amazon is now showing it as well... for $29.99
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] hypergreatthing:
got a link for amazon?

I only saw the note 3 back cover.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] GPetrow:
D'oh! I'm a dummy.

In my excitement I "thought" I saw Note 4, when in fact I saw "S5". (That's what I get for trusting the search results for "Galaxy Note 4".)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] paralogiX:
Yeah there is a back cover with qi.. but would it be bigger with it?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] xeq544:
I already have the samsung qi charging back cover. Its 800mA and its very thick compared to the normal cover. Got it for free from samsung retail store along with the wireless charging pad. I must say I stopped using it the first day.

To answer other questions, it does not cover or block nfc.

Will edit with pics soon

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y43mni7zbcrep3k/20141027_233033.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/x71vg1fd4avvtrr/20141027_233047.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/01lmqf2u1abks48/20141027_233242.jpg?dl=0
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] nelagster:
Yeah I'm thinking of just getting a receiver coil so that I can still use whatever case I want
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] RaymondPJR:
Same here! So far I've seen no real reason to cancel the one I have on order. One mm should be able to go under the cover with next to no visible bulge.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ilordvader:
Which city did you buy it in ?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] xeq544:
Bratislava
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] nerys71:
It does block nfc. This is why you unit has more than 2 contact pads. They are for the additional nfc array built into the cover since the one in the battery is blocked.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] RaymondPJR:
It's hard to tell what post you are referring to because you don't include a quote. However you do give a great clue! One of these pics showed a coil with just one contact pad. The one I ordered has two. Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] windstrings:
A few more Note 4 wireless coils

I'm looking for one that doesn't interfere with NFC, these don't cover the whole back like they do on the smaller phones so may be a non issue.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qi-Wireless...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item58b763e5e9
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] segura.org:
Until you realize that NFC is in the battery and you are blocking center mass of the battery
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] teedge77:
NFC is in the battery? You should look into NFC a little more.

EDIT **

Ha...sorry, i realized a few minutes ago that although I read "NFC", my brain thought wireless charging. I have read a few people that believed you needed a special battery for wireless charging.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jyan_osu:
On the note 2 the nfc antenna was on the back cover with the chip on board. On phones like the galaxy s4 and the note 4 the nfc antenna is in the battery.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] rawdikrik:
This is why they make backs and recievers with both nfc and wireless charging coils.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jegonzo3:
Which is why I want the official Samsung one.

Anyone know where to get a black cover?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] clintonroche:
As far as I have searched.... None of the official ones are out yet
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] RaymondPJR:
Which is why in confident the one I ordered will work! It had two connector pads.