yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Archiimonde:
Again, only speculations from you, no real concrete evidence or anything. Just "it's superior, deal with it". Where are all these users who have compared the Note 4 Snapdragon/Exynos?

This is what I meant when I said you were acting like a child. Your attitude in general, too.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmd512:
You really are quite entertaining, please continue.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quadlt:
Jeeez, just go back to your S4 forums, you have nothing to do here.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] POLO_i780:
Until we have actual proof from a professional who has a lab and has tested BOTH the NOTE 4 Exynos and Snapdragon with top end headphones, there is no point in all this arguing, we need someone like the GSMArena reviewers, with the right equipment and both Note 4 variants.

We need hard facts, numbers to get a clear idea where each is stronger than the other and weaker, where they are pretty much a match and so on.

As a Note 4 owner though, I say, don't go to ridiculous lengths to get one or the other, take what is best suited for your region and network in terms of warranty and repair services, and if you want an incredible sonic experience get a DAC and some proper high end headphones, and if you need to get, rooting and get Viper.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmd512:
Actually, if you look at my very first post in this EXYNOS WOLFSON thread before the pissy, moaning Snapdragon crybabies arrived, I mentioned the campaign to get Andrei an Exynos Note 4 for Perseus development. If you actually look at the campaign, I've already contributed 50 EUR to it.

What does this all mean? This means that I do have a vested interest in purchasing a EXYNOS Note 4 IF AND ONLY IF one of the best kernel developers develops for it.

But, here's the kicker, want to take a wild guess if you'll see me around these forums if that DOESN'T happen? That's right, you won't see me here at all, bet on it. It's no different than when I stopped visiting the S4 Snapdragon forums after I sold it. What was I going to do, go there to talk about why I chose the Exynos variant and that it was better? No, I'm not as insecure as these whiny Snapdragon users.

Then begs the question, how insecure do you really have to be to feel the need to come in and give your Snapdragon opinions on an EXYNOS WOLFSON discussion thread, especially when it's clear the we really don't care? It's quite pathetic really, I certainly wouldn't bother.

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I'm once again in agreement. However, given the universally agreed to historical difference and superiority of the Wolfson after Andrei develops for it, I'm pretty confident at this stage committing to the Exynos. All the other hypothetical commentaries are seriously a waste of time.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azwan92:
I have Exynos Note 4, I think this chip perform quite well, feels better than Note 2 on the same setting and earphone (Shure SE535).
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bjrmd:
Not to get into a flame war but Wolfson is a company in business to make DAC chips and their products are used in many high end audio products. Take a look at the data sheets for the chip in the Note 4, and I have included the sheet for the Note 2's 1811 chip. The snapdragon datasheet for their DAC is nowhere to be found (I looked). You may be able to get it if you buy their development board.

Anyway you get an idea of where some people are coming from, yes the non Wolfson devices are probably ok. But if you don't want to lug around another large piece of gear (high end USB DAC or DAP) and want the best possible solution get a Wolfson device(with voodoo like support). Plenty of people are satisfied streaming highly compressed streams of Pandora, Spotify and I mean no criticism to doing this.

If you do have voodoo/wolfson control enabled, the chip is also able to equalize output(parametic) with no hit to battery as well.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eddhard:
At the end of the day it's all subjective and personal opinion. You can measure and test all you want. Every ones ears are different. We all have different tastes in sound levels and volume. All I care is that it is better than my note 2. I also use vyper4android. That said this thread is entertaining.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmd512:
Well said.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sky high:
I've read through the thread but does any of this even matter if you plan to use viper4android?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmd512:
I believe that's different than Voodoo / hardware level control / tweaks.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] POLO_i780:
Which is why I keep saying, people must save themselves the grief of having to import a particular variant due to something so minor that can be adjusted in either variant.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmd512:
What grief? Any carrier in the US will charge you the same amount as any imported device if you buy it outright. Yeah, you can do the installment plan route, but the end result is you pay more.

(I've purchased all previous Galaxy devices from Handtec in UK, airshipped via FedEx and arrived in the US after 2 days with no VAT.)

And yes, as long as you're happy with your device, then it's all hugs and giggles. Doesn't change the fact that one audio chipset is better than the other, especially with HW level controls for the Wolfson chip.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eddhard:
True but then again my dogs ears are more accurate and can hear a much wider range of frequencies.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmd512:
Hah, I own two pups too, and I never bothered asking for their expertise given I can hear a difference myself already. Nice one.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] POLO_i780:
Not everyone lives in the USA, and different countries have diff laws on warranty and repairs, some, may import a faulty unit, or it breaks and they have to buy a whole new Note 4 due to no support etc etc...
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bjrmd:
I would risk it but it appears the 4g bands don't match up with what exists in the usa
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmd512:
Got it, so your argument doesn't apply to the millions of users in the US.

Actually, FCC docs show the N910C (Exynos) was certified to support AT&T LTE bands. There's a thread on here where discussing it, the OP is an AT&T user and purchased one, he's currently waiting for it to be shipped from Malaysia. We should get confirmation soon enough.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] POLO_i780:
No, it applies to the many more millions of users around the globe .
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmd512:
Or maybe just your locale. That's the thing with vague, universal claims such as your "gray market phones cause grief," they're usually wrong.

Btw, you done with your non-Wolfson DAC applicable rant yet? Ok if we get back on topic? Thanks.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KosanRio:
I really only want the Exynos-variant because you can usually turn up the analog volume gain on Wolfson DACs on Samsung phones where as you can't do this with the Snapdragon-devices.

The fact my Note 3 couldn't drive my Koss PortaPros or my ATH-M50s at a decent volume with the amount of bass I wanted made me really hate the phone.

I'm actually using some weird prepaid phone called the Samsung Galaxy Light originally from T-Mobile here in the U.S. just because it happens to have a Wolfson DAC. (WM1811).
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Archiimonde:
Question to those of you who live in a non-Exynos country, but still choose to order it regardless. I'm just curious, this is not meant as anything more than it says, no underlying stuff. I just genuinely wonder why getting the Exynos/Wolfson version is so important. The risks regarding band compatibility, and potential carrier/battery problems, warranty issues, etc. Is it worth it? Why not just order an external DAC or something? What pros/cons do(/did) you consider?

For me, it was almost impossible to get, as almost none ships here, and my country's rules for warranty are extremely benefitial.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bjrmd:
Problem with external DAC--can't hands-free speak on phone if you use a mic cable (so either wired headphone or Bluetooth) and stress on usb port dangling around the cable all the time(I use it biking, walking, weight training).

I have thought about this and even tried the creative E3 aptx Bluetooth which used a decent TI Dac. Its not bad but not as clean as wired.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/725028/any-info-reviews-of-the-soundblaster-e3-and-e1/15#post_10919211

Currently using a Note 2 in the US, voodoo sound with custom equalizer bands.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MSK1:
Can someone explain the sound quality difference (and reasons) between the two versions in layman's terms?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dazed1:
What if you don't use headphones? the speaker on the back is the problem here, not the DAC in that case i think? Samsung made HUGE mistake with placing it on the back.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MSK1:
Id like to know too....

Is there a difference between the speaker output on exynos vs snapdragon versions. ...

Or is the difference only relevant when headphones are used?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ausboy 2011:
There may be but im not sure.. if only superC was around
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saj2001ind:
guys anyone using an external DAC like FIIO E18 with note 4 ? do you hear any sound quality difference ?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mike13ftw:
I use fiio e17 with my ath m50x and it has huge difference in sound and volume

Sent from my Note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saj2001ind:
in that case would a stand alone player like x3 be better or still note 4 + fiio e17 or e18 is better ? purely for sound quality
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mike13ftw:
I prefer note 4 + fiio e17 or e18 because it's cheaper and you can use it in your pc phone mp3 player. What headphones do you have?

Sent from my Note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saj2001ind:
Headphones... Rha ma750i, Sennheiser momentum on ear, nad viso, etymotic hf5 klipsch x7i and shure se215
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrmondaynight:
Anyone like the headphones that came with the phone?

These things sound better than my $200 dollar atrio m5's

They don't get as low, but excel in every other area
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arjun90:
The sound quality on the Snapdragon variant is better than expected. I recently assessed the sound quality simply using Klipsch R6; the sound is surprisingly solid. It really depends on the earphones used; the phone is well capable. It resolved the misconception I had about Snapdragon for years. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dazed1:
So anyone compared Exynos vs S805? headphone output? clarity?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Iamapotato:
This thread has taught me that Wolfson DAC is not only a DAC but also an amp too. Does this mean that I shouldn't get the FiiO E12 amp since Note 4's is good enough?.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Moscow Desire:
Ok folks, I need to intervene here.

Got called in as somebody was getting too carried away.

Need I remind "some" people, XDA is not a site where you can "stand upon a soap box" and preach. The Android Universe does not revolve around any particular country, and, there is no "freedom of speech" that applies here. We have rules, and one of them is respect for other users.

I see some previous posts that violate that rule. I recall some name calling I believe.....

A reminder that if you don't like what somebody posts, then we ask you kindly move along if you have nothing worthwhile to contribute. DO NOT get into a flaming war. It's a war you won't win, and I can assure you who the victor will be ;)

An honest debate is ok as long as it stays within rules, so lets be civil shall we?

MD
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stevemiddie:
Yeah, I use my 4 with the FiiO E18 and B&W P7's

All my music is in Flac format

Simply awesome.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rayone:
Has anyone been able to demonstrate qualitative and quantitative difference?

Do we have DLN, THD, Dynamic Range, Sampling values for the WCD9330?

The WM5110 sure has an impressive spec sheet.

Also while the DAC pipeline is very important the digital one is subjectively just as important... what player/processing? I don't like Neutron, I find Jet makes nice sound.

On the subjective side, does either DAC impart some kind harmonic flavour to the sound... eg cheaper DACs make sounds more metalic, like a putting a speaker in a metal pipe.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psycovirus:
I am not very knowledgeable in this area... I know DAC is a Digital to Analogue converter.

My Note 4 is Snapdragon version (overheating PoS) and I use PowerAmp / Spotify for music (PowerAmp : FLAC | Spotify : 320kbps Vorbis)

The Snapdragon DAC is really good in Note 4, a big jump from Galaxy S4. Sound is more detailed.

I am able to push my (not so high impedance 38 Ohm m50x) easily using Note 4. About 10/15 steps on Note 4 for same volume as 14/15 steps on my Galaxy S4.

However, the sound stage isn't very wide when using Note 4 headphone jack. I use an external Fiio DAC (E07K) with a micro OTG usb to mini USB cable to act as DAC + Amp combo... Sounds warmer and have better sound stage. At least on my M50X and Vsonic VSD 3S.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] THS1989:
My Note 2 had a Wolfson DAC.

What does this Snapdragon Note 4 have ??

Is the audio a downgrade ?

Headphones I use are ATH-M50XBL
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rayone:
I think all these DAC comments are too subjective to have any meaning.

I have a number of audio players and headphones.

I've done some comparisons, and while they all sound different playing the same music file none exhibit any type of distortion that impacts the quality of the sound.

My J3 Player (Wolfson WM8960G) with some Shure530's sounds pretty flat until you enable BBE.

My Note 4 (SD805) sounds OK, but with JetAudio + AM3D it sounds significantly richer.

Probably the best, no nicest sounding of all my equipment is PC - Asus Xonar STS + FooBar + Denon AH-D5000 headphones... this setup provides some jaw tingling base but as soon as you change eq or add enhancements it goes downhill fast.

They all sound different not better.. so what's the conclusion? I think both variants may sound different but not necessarily better... spec wise the Exynos/Wolfson is probably better until somebody can find WCD9330 specs.
[General AOKP Discussion] kinansyria:
Hello..

I hope make custom rom to this device

Samsung galaxy grand neo Gt-i9060

This device is awesome but we hope to use your custom rom based on this device

.. thanks

Sent From my GT-i9060 JB4.2.2 / CWM 6
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] QA Bot:
Q&A for [i9500][4.4.2][4.10.10]Official MIUI V5 - Multi Languages

Some developers prefer that questions remain separate from their main development thread to help keep things organized. Placing your question within this thread will increase its chances of being answered by a member of the community or by the developer. Thanks for understanding and for helping to keep XDA neat and tidy! :smile:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leisures:
Can't download multi rom at all....link get u no download.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] D™:
It has buddy.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MartK87:
Can someone point me to the latest MIUI for the i9505 and a guide on how to flash it to my phone?

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigjafar:
I'm not sure that is MIUI support i9505. You can see device list on MIUI forum on theirs website
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arjav23:
The rom fails to give root permissions. ..... Do I have to re root it?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigjafar:
try to head over to security and then choose permission and see if root permission is disable/enable
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arjav23:
Thanks.....any idea if xposed framework is working?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigjafar:
i already read about xposed on miui and most of them said that xposed wont working on miui
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arjav23:
I'm even unable to get bootanimation started
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahmed elhusseny:
Good work good

thanx
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] balidaan:
Apps crasing frequently

I've had the miui rom for a couple of months now and my apps keep crashing. This generally happens with apps containing date wheels, when I turn on the hotstop, if an app is taking a little time to load.

Can someone please help.

I'm seriously contemplating changing the rom
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajay_gj09:
Alternate download link for Miui V5 (GT-I9500)

Can we have alternate download link? The link from Miui server is not working in India
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] feelingless:
Cannot uninstall some apps

Can somebody let me know how to install some apps in this ROM? I have flashed this but could not uninstall some apps using Titanium Root, for example, Clock, Calendar, Video, Music,... I have my own apps to replace those ones. I also restarted after uninstalling, but no help, the apps are still there, even Titanium said they were uninstalled successfully. Appreciate any help.

Thanks the team for hard working to make this beautiful ROM with multi languages.

Duc
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m4rd0k:
Hello,

I tested this room and is very fast, easy to understand and i want use, but Hiromacro apk don't work on this room why?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiraceite:
WatchOn

Hello, im trying to make works watchOn with version 4.9.26 but my Samsung TV doesnt respond... which app for remote control do you use? I've read that new release doesnt work infrared!!

Regards!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shakkyr@gmail.com:
data connection problem

i have tried all the latest versions of miui.

in all versions I can't get cellular data connection . wifi working great
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fanunderclub:
Help me! Error status 7

S4 I9500 Help me! Error status 7. I have done a variety of ways. Edit "updater-script" and more but can't flash Miui. I flash other Rom ok, and flash Miui before. I really like Miui very much. Thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fanunderclub:
Help me! Error status 7 S4 I9500

Help me! Error status 7

S4 I9500 Help me! Error status 7. I have done a variety of ways. Edit "updater-script" and more but can't flash Miui. I flash other Rom ok, and flash Miui before. I really like Miui very much. Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dastan_:
How to install play store and google service in MIUI V5 ROM

Hi, Im very new here.

1. How to install play store and google service in rom miui v5?

2. The Gapps in the download section, contains apps for 4.2.2, is it okay to download and install? and by installing those files, does it install the google play store and services?

3. Is this rom compatible with all apps from play store? because in the download section it was written "Download compatible Gapps". are those the only compatible apps.

I hope someone can answer my question. i want to install this rom. it looks very nice with great features.

Thank you in advance.

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Hi, Im very new here.

1. How to install play store and google service in rom miui v5?

2. The Gapps in the download section, contains apps for 4.2.2, is it okay to download and install? and by installing those files, does it install the google play store and services?

3. Is this rom compatible with all apps from play store? because in the download section it was written "Download compatible Gapps". are those the only compatible apps.

I hope someone can answer my question. I want to install this rom. It looks very nice with Rich features.

Thank you in advance.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RaNoS25:
I installed the miui rom now I can't download trough wifi or 3g why?

I can't download trough wifi or 3g why?

Starts and say download unsuccessful after just second from start download
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kikiri:
There are many missing.....
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RaNoS25:
Can't install new update 21 I have hebmiui

It's not installing new update heb miui plz help
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LittleHedgehog:
google play

Can I flash PA GApps to the MIUI?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WhiteRock41:
Phone constantly crashes and resets itself after the last update. What can ı do for it?I can't solve myself
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patara321:
Does it support thai languages
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MonkeyDoBusiness:
ROM appears to be well made but there's too many bugs:

1. Camera crashes frequently

2. Delay in wake-up time

3. NO UPDATES

4. Random reboots

5. Wifi is unstable

I have switched over to Ozcan's Touchwiz based ROM
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spidar:
Anyone having issues with Google play services? Everytime I try to update it, the phone crashes.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenny55:
Hello'

I flashed MIUI but have no 3G data connection on roaming. Can it be fixed somehow?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tuankyo:
Link die

Link die
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] h6x:
Yes, Flashing Gapps makes your phone crash... without gapps the phone works well, but still have bugs...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bnnajem:
How i can install miui rom on arrow rom 16v ??
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] albraine:
Is there any possibility to have MIUI6 fo this device?

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sumeetchopra89:
MIUI

Great Rom with awesome Performance :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zasasule:
I think the developers are working on it. And i did heard the source code miv6 have not been released yet...

Iam also waiting for mi6....

Hope we get one inshalllah
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hieruma:
after mi release his own phone, i think no update miui 6 for this device, cmiiw yeahh
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lee54:
link is dead :S
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pcmy:
v6

v6 i9500 what time
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zasasule:
Waiting miU v6.. iNshallah
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zasasule:
patience mate.. good things takes time..

bt probabaly may be on APRIL THIS YEAR
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donkl:
I'm newbie, I can't down multi languare rom, can you give me another link, thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zeyad_K:
Cant download MIUI v5 for i9500

Hi bud,

Awesome looking rom but i can't seem to download the 4.11.7 version. When i select the download link it says "404 not found".

Please help! I want this rom so badly.

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MidhunCN:
Same here, I'm not able to download the rom either. 404 not available.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skyfortune91:
help...

Please reupload the file of rom...

Link is broken. I can't download rom from this link...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donkl:
I can't boot in, why?

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I'm install miui v5 but i can't boot to home screen, samsung s4 i9500
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gopal802001:
MIUI Rom and OTA Link Broken

Hi,

I am not able to download the rom as the link on clicking returns ''404 Page Not Found". Please update a corrected link.

Also the OTA Download has the similar issue.:(

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] navporky:
Thank you.

Saved the day for me .... worked like a charm.