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[Nexus 6  General] all43:
Hi guys and girls,

Dilemma, I love my Nexus 4 and everything sykopompos has ported but its time to upgrade, of course Nexus 6 is the next beast:D

Play store price this close to Christmas seems to have some sort of offensive reaction too my wife so contract is my next option, so a simple question are all carriers unlockable for root? Looks like 30 quid is the starting point for contract so what deals you all spotted?
[Nexus 6  General] the_crevis:
I'm in the same boat, although still undecided, note 4 vs nexus 6?!

As for contracts, no retailer in the UK has released pricing details so no idea what contract deals we will get. I bought my nexus 4 from o2 and that had no carrier customisation, network locking or special bootloader lock so i can but assume that it will the same situation for the nexus 6. I think its only the Americans that get screwed over by carrier versions of nexii.
[Nexus 6  General] Barso1:
When does the phone go up for pre-order on the UK Play Store?

Thanks.
[Nexus 6  General] all43:
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Still says coming soon but I believe the rumour is the 16th but might be miss quoting.
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Your guess is as good as anybody's mate but from what I've read 18th nov seems most likely
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Apparently on 18th, but this still could be anything at this rate with no announcements from Google
[Nexus 6  General] the_crevis:
18th of nov according to Paul O'Brien from Modaco, he's always been a reliable source
[Nexus 6  General] all43:
Lol I stand corrected [MENTION=2110729]crevis[/MENTION] indeed Paul is not often wrong:D
[Nexus 6  General] Super Chimp:
I imagine they'll be an unsightly scrum for a limited number of handsets.
[Nexus 6  General] NexusHexus:
i'm not keeping my hopes up tbh for the romours dates flying around esp with the dissapointments so far with the USA. my excitement is dying slowly
[Nexus 6  General] Super Chimp:
Well if they are struggling support the existing markets what hopes the additional ones.
[Nexus 6  General] hutzdani:
I cant see being the 18th thats a tuesday, i wonder if the 12th pre orders will open and the 18th will be shipping ?

I cant see a week of pre orders after the 18th and then shipping into the busy christmas month where deliverys are manic !
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
I think the best thing would be to try and register for as many pre pre order sites as you can. Clove, Amazon, Motorola's own website, the official Nexus 6 page on Google (not Google play as there's no where to register), carphone warehouse - all these sites have registration page which will tell you when the nexus 6 pre order starts or when stock is in.
[Nexus 6  General] Deeco7:
Thinking of buying the N6 from a retailer instead of Play Store, to avoid shipping charges.

Anyone know if CPW will stock it?
[Nexus 6  General] fleonard:
No they just quote on website as November 2014 but no specific date
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Yeah carphone warehouse is going to be stocking the Nexus 6 but don't know if they will have both 32gb and 64gb models
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
Yes they will, it's "coming soon" on the site.

I spoke to a CPW representative and they said " should be in November"
[Nexus 6  General] Deeco7:
I'm looking to buy the 64GB White, and I doubt they will stock it.

Did you ring them? I really hope they don't delay it any further than Play Store.
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
I used the live Web chat, he said they would sell sim free as well, just didn't have a firm date on release
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
I'm after the 64gb midnight blue to be honest I'm not really bothered where I get it from as long as I can get my grubby mitts on one :D

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Did they quote prices on the sim free phones?
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
Afraid not, but this was before any UK price was announced, so there's a chance they might do now
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Cheers mate I'll give them a ring and see what they say
[Nexus 6  General] Deeco7:
I was totally undecided between the two colours, but ultimately chose white as I wasn't to sure what to think about the midnight blue in hand.

You guys know if CPW or any other retailer have it in stock so I can have a hands on with it? (sounds intimate, right? Well it is ;))
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
No one has it in stock yet mate
[Nexus 6  General] freesoul27:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/11/11/google-nexus-6-uk-pricing-confirmed/

http://www.clove.co.uk/google-nexus-6
[Nexus 6  General] @home:
I pre-ordered my Note 4 from clove - If hadn't gone the Sansung estore I'd still be waiting for it with no end in sight.
[Nexus 6  General] 9e705ebbf0:
Yeah it seems like Samsung really screwed them this time around. Three times Samsung turned around and told them (at the last minute) that they wouldn't be getting stock on the date that they'd said.

Bad.
[Nexus 6  General] @home:
And why do they always have the lowest capacity device - G3 16gb - N6 32Gb - Why not 64Gb?
[Nexus 6  General] Super Chimp:
It's usually because the manufacturers reserve these for their own stores.
[Nexus 6  General] fleonard:
Or maybe because they order just what they think sell most and usual is the one with smallest capacity
[Nexus 6  General] @home:
Why not have both? I always go for the highest.
[Nexus 6  General] fleonard:
You, but probably most of the people not. That's why
[Nexus 6  General] @home:
We should always be pushing for the most we can get.

If everyone kept buying the minimum we still be stuck with an 8gb Nexus:crying:
[Nexus 6  General] fleonard:
With all the cloud service we can use for free nowadays I think it's a bit useless to have a huge amount of storage. 32gb think it's good enough. What could be better is to have a microsd slot.
[Nexus 6  General] @home:
SD Card slot all day long - Google should be building one in to the Nexus line.
[Nexus 6  General] Super Chimp:
I don't believe in cloud storage, there's too many questions about it still for my liking.
[Nexus 6  General] oddbin:
Cloud Storage believes in you.
[Nexus 6  General] barry_:
from the clove blog

'We can now confirm that Clove Technology will be stocking the 32 GB Midnight Blue version of the Nexus 6 at £499 inc. VAT. Other colour/memory configurations are TBC at this time, with availability likely limited to the UK Play Store due to stock levels.

Right now you can register your interest for the Nexus 6 – we will be emailing everyone on the list when orders are opened. According to Google / Motorola we can expect to begin taking orders on the 18th November in conjunction with the UK Play Store. An exact shipping date is to be announced, although we expect early December.'
[Nexus 6  General] the_crevis:
The Nexus 6 press embargo is meant to be lifted tomorrow so hopefully we shall finally see some reviews! :D
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
Other than how long the battery lasts there is nothing left to say.
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
I'd like to see comparisons against other phones. There's only so much you can read.
[Nexus 6  General] hutzdani:
Yeah i'd like to know how well it works with QI and the magnets on the official charger

I'd like to know if the phone rattles like the N5 does

I'd Like to see how fast it will charge on the turbo charger

The General build quality of the thing, will the coating on the metal of the midnight blue flake off like so many metal phones do

How good are the speakers in general do they distort at full whack on say a 320KBPS properly mastered track ?

Can we rub the ****ty motorola logo off the back with IPA

how long will it really last paired to a Wearable and WIFI on and 4G/LTE enabled all day
[Nexus 6  General] ixon2001:
Just sold the Galaxy S5 and picked up a Nexus 5 16GB to tie me over until after the New Year.

I'm gonna let the initial mad rush and stock shortages get out of the way first, then pick up a Nexus 6 sometime in late Jan or early Feb, when by that time there should be plenty stock about, if the HTC M9 or the Galaxy S6 with it's 64bit Snapdragon doesn't sway me to change my mind.

In the meantime i now still get Lollipop sometime this week maybe on the Nexus 5, which I'm quite impressed with tbh considering it only cost me £269 from Argos.
[Nexus 6  General] Sennfire:
Review embargo is reported to be lifted at 10 AM PST, so that's 6 PM here on the forgotten islands. Not that I should expect many revelations from the reviews.
[Nexus 6  General] barry_:
I'm looking forward to the reviews but with an update to Lolipop being pushed out yesterday and the reported stock problems do leave a lot to be desired both from google and motorola.

And also, with the reporting embargo being lifted, we might get more info about price plans ect now (he said hopefully)
[Nexus 6  General] alitech:
My enthusiasm is on the wane after watching all these reviews. eff-ing battery life, eff-ing screen colours, eff-ing a few other things.
[Nexus 6  General] JCM800:
Mine is too, according to Gsm Arena the sound isn't quite up to scratch either, I'll hang onto my Note 3 a bit longer..
[Nexus 6  General] @home:
Yeah I saw that too.

Why do google always put **** DAC's in their devices.
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Yeah I've read that too and apparently it's quite slippery in the hand. OK it's got a curved back but the metal sides don't give much grip-ability. Just imagine a six inch phone slipping out of your hand and on its way to the floor! Haven't found any drop test videos yet but they'll come soon enough!
[Nexus 6  General] JCM800:
Yeah, and to prevent that possibly happening we'll need to use a case?!.. Nah I'll pass on this one as well. Shame, Note 4 has disappointed me and now this..
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
What disappointed you on the note 4?
[Nexus 6  General] JCM800:
The fact that Samsung aren't consistent with their audio. I've had all of the Note series, and the speaker on the 4 is by far the worst. Very thin, flat and lacking.
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Yeah I can age with you there. I've used Samsung for a while and always link to a sound system so I don't really use the speakers that much. That's one reason I was looking to get the nexus 6. Think the only phone that's been good with speakers is HTC m8 one with the boom sound. The nexus 6 was supposed to be good with sound having two forward facing speakers as opposed to the one speaker on the moto x second gen. Dunno why OEM's don't look at making the speakers better to give an overall better experience. Found there's always something on a phone that isn't quite up to par or is a disappointment.
[Nexus 6  General] mys3:
I don't think I'll be pre ordering now. I had high hopes for this phone. Pure android and a killer battery. Shame. Shouldn't have to rely on the devs to sort the battery to a decent level, not at that size!
[Nexus 6  General] alitech:
I don't quite understand why people use speakers for anything apart from a speakerphone function. It's going to be crap regardless of how good the speakers are, they are tiny speakers. Don't get it. Use a headphone people!!
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
What leaves us more confused is that a fair few sites state that battery life as being excellent in real world usage .. even the Verge said it can last 2 days.
[Nexus 6  General] mys3:
I've been stalking the Google play order page for a few weeks in case they pop up for sale but think I'll hold off until the new year, that way stock levels should be a bit more stable and the forum will have real world battery results. I've bought screen protectors and a case already in anticipation of ordering on the 18th, looks like they'll be going in the drawer for now
[Nexus 6  General] Goku80:
john lewis will be stocking it that is the n9 i am talking about
[Nexus 6  General] bigf00t:
Any news on which networks might be offering it first?

If it's as expensive as expected I might prefer to take out a contract and spread the cost.
[Nexus 6  General] Goku80:
to be fair i would not get it on contract...you always end up paying more money...even though you are not paying much up front now in the long term you are just spending a bit extra...but each to there own....

my mistake was that i did not wait for my upgrade and i upgraded early and i am paying for it now with my 5s...happy with my phone but i wished i waited and paid for a phone out right

but i am pretty sure all the major networks will have it like 3, o2 and vodafone
[Nexus 6  General] KidCarter93:
Then it turns out that she gets you something crap so you're obligated to "like" it ;)

I'll probably end up waiting until around Christmas as well to be honest. It gives me more than enough time to save up and then afford whichever takes my fancy at that point.

The size of the N6 isn't really an issue for me although it appears to be for a lot of people around these parts
[Nexus 6  General] Geordie Affy:
I was waiting for this to be released and now I can finally purchase the LG G2, Nexus 6 is a good phone but cost and size take it away from my limits - was hoping it'd be my first Nexus device.
[Nexus 6  General] Batfink33:
I'm guessing the 6 will be in store mid Nov. Just wish we knew how to get or pre order one. Hate the waiting and not knowing, just wish we had a delivery date.
[Nexus 6  General] 3473:
I am VERY tempted, it sounds like my ideal phone (AMOLED screen, nexus software, 64gb, metal frame) but the only thing holding me back is that 6 inch screen.

I remember seeing a Sony Z Ultra (6.4 inch) when it came out and thought it looked absolutely ridiculous but then again I've had an LG G2 and Sony Z3 since (5.2 inch) and they're fine

Think I might risk it... any idea what google play UK are like with returns? :D
[Nexus 6  General] KidCarter93:
Apparently, pre-orders are starting on Oct 29th for a mid November release. I'm not seeing any solid dates of release yet though.
[Nexus 6  General] 3473:
But WHY is it ridiculous? This is what I don't get. If it had obvious cutbacks like the Nexus 5 did (camera, battery etc) then yes. But everything in the 6 seems high end, I can't find a single spec that makes me go "oh they cheaped out a bit there.."

So why is £500 ridiculous? They first started putting cheap stuff in the nexus 4. Before that, it was all high end stuff (nexus one, S, etc) and the price was £500/£550
[Nexus 6  General] Hereisphilly:
Under distance selling regulations, anything bought online in the UK can be returned within 28 days if you don't like it

I remember when the N10 came out I got through 5 devices due to the back panel flexing and Google has no issue in me returning them

(I know that was for a fault, but all the same, google had no quibble in me retuning them)
[Nexus 6  General] Batfink33:
The N6 price is cheap for that kind of spec phone. People are just moaning because they can't afford it and have been spoiled by the past 2 years Nexii prices. Before that as you said, it was premium spec/higher cost.
[Nexus 6  General] Goku80:
the only reason that puts me off the handset and i would be the first to admit is the cost...size i can get over it specially seeing how big the 6plus is..

i said this before...if the phone was say in the region of 350 i could of sold my 5s and added say the most another fifty quid for the nexus and buy it...but for me to splash out more than that on a new handset is bit to much....with gifts still to buy for my girl and add to that a new tv for now i will be passing it by unfortunately..plus the fact that it does not have the 64bit support is a bit weird if you ask me
[Nexus 6  General] danarama:
Just waiting for a price. Was considering a Note 4 jump from my N5, but likely the N6 is now my goal...
[Nexus 6  General] Batfink33:
Most of the flagships at the moment are 500-550 with the Note 4 up at £650. If it comes in at £450 its cheap, heck even the 801 G3 is £450 and my Z2 was £529 2 months ago.It is a lot of money, but that's the price of phones these days.
[Nexus 6  General] Goku80:
still a lot of money if you think about it...mind you now these days phones are like mini portable computers with all the stuff they can do...the most i ever spend on a phone is for the nexus when i bought it outright and still then i thought that was a lot of money...anyways best to wait for the official prices
[Nexus 6  General] djbenny1:
damn guys im really so disappointed.

i couldn't wait for the release as I'm out of contract and wanted to buy a sim free nexus to use, but at this size and price i've gone right off it.

what do you think the best options are? I have a One M7 now.

nexus 5 32gb somewhere around £300?

one m8 somewhere around £500?

oneplus one is £270?

I really don't want to spend more than £300, but at that price I would be willing to sell and buy every year instead of 2 years on contract.
[Nexus 6  General] 3473:
Indeed, I paid £500 for a Galaxy Nexus and I'd still say it's the best phone I've ever owned (relatively speaking) . I'm glad Google have gone premium again
[Nexus 6  General] chistery:
I usually order the Nexus phones as soon as they are out, but I don't think I'll buy this one :( I have a OnePlus One and the size is great to use but it's a bit of a pain to carry round, like when I'm off out in the evening with no bag. You need big pockets for these phones!
[Nexus 6  General] dunjamon:
I'm definitely going to pre-order! I was a little unsure when they left out the wireless charging, but now it's been confirmed I'm going to have a go. It's big...but then if you look at the current trend in phones; all the top manufacturers have released similar sized flagship handsets.

Some sites are saying 17th for pre-order and then some are saying 29th? Hopefully Google have learnt from past experience and they won't have stock issues like the last couple of years.
[Nexus 6  General] skibadee:
Note 4 or nexus 6 is what I have to decide. The camera on my note 3 is crap with indoor shots and from what I've read the N4 isn't that much better. The nexus 6 camera is what will make me decide. I've read the moto x camera isn't brilliant but really hope the nexus 6 is better. Megapixels I don't care about, just the sensor speed with snapping in medium/low light without blurring if the subject moves. I can live with the s pen which I only use once a month or so.
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
Google probably werent ready to put this phone out, but had to market it before this weekend for obvious reasons, the embargo just gave them more silent time to try fix the phone, who knows how how long it takes. Let's not forget they released a Galaxy Nexus that didn't even work properly on O2 and Voda, but that was years ago when people expected less lol
[Nexus 6  General] alitech:
Google are never ready with a device. The first few months are always painful for new owners. Nexus 4, nexus 5 and I bet you history will repeat itself for the nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] __NBH__:
I have read some of the reviews for the Nexus 6 and I am a bit underwhelmed to be honest. People seem to like Lollipop but the phone itself doesn't seem that exciting or excel in any particular area.

I think the problem is that Lollipop is out, or coming out very soon on other devices, Google should have kept it Nexus 6 and Nexus 9 exclusive for a little while longer as a big selling point to make people buy the new hardware. The features people see on the Nexus 6 will mostly be available on lots of other phones so the software isn't a selling point anymore, they are looking at other phones they want and seeing when Lollipop will be available.

Lollipop doesn't seem optimised in any way for larger phone screens. I would have liked to see the DPI changed so there is more on the screen or ideally, neat features built into the Google apps to make more use of the available space. It seems like all the effort has gone into the material design and not on how it will actually function on a larger screen which seems crazy to me as Google is showcasing their new software on new devices which both have large screens.
[Nexus 6  General] @home:
Yeah have to agree.

The size of the Icons are crazy. They where crazy on the N5. Goolge are getting as daft as crapple, in some ways.
[Nexus 6  General] dannstarr:
Size of icons is a non issue... Just change the dpi to one that suits you?
[Nexus 6  General] @home:
That means Root & not every one wants to root.

It is an issue & it should be sorted.
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
The more and more I read (and watch the latest reviews that have come out in the last 24 hours), the more I think that the nexus 6 doesn't have much else to offer against other phablets. Like mentioned above, lollipop will come to other phone in some form or another but now I think it's a toss between stock experience over layered experience on top of stock. I think I'm going to bite the bullet and buy the nexus 5 so I can experience lollipop and hope it'll be on the cards when Google release the next version of android.
[Nexus 6  General] mustyrash:
Install Nova launcher and change the desktop grid in the settings. No root required.

The nexus 6 isn't perfect but I'm pretty sure it will be the only nexus phablet at this size. I doubt they'll do a phone this size next year. I'm 100% sure there will be a price drop or a great deal to be had at some point. The allure of the nexus devices is the development community and a variety of custom ROMs and I'm sure someone will bake phablet features in one of them. I'm finding it hard to say no to one but the next best thing is a note 4 and I'm finding it even more difficult to say yes to that. At this rate I'll stay with my nexus 4 for another year after seeing how smooth my nexus 10 is with lollipop but a big nexus phone seems so good even if google cut corners like they've done with every nexus device. I'll wait until I can play about with one in store I guess.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 6  General] :
Hey guys. So I've never had a phone that has just come out(I usually wait like a yr or 2) and my parents agreed to get me a new phone (I'm 16 for those that haven't figured it out.) I currently have a moto g, and I'm thinking of getting the nexus 6. Originally my parents were a little surprised at the price, but they eventually agreed to it, provided I keep it for like 5 yrs minimum. Now I know there might be some minor flaws with it, but I'm thinking since this is the last phone my parents are willing to buy(I've had quite a few), I should go out with style. I don't want a Note 4 or anything since I hate the UI and the screen size of this nexus 6 is perfect since I watch a lot of shows and stuff.

Do you guys think that I'm wasting my time and money? I mean battery life isn't a biggie since it will be in standby during school. Are there any major flaws that I haven't spotted? Just want some opinions. :)
[Nexus 6  General] killall:
Why buy a nexus then after all it is by its nature a developer phone

45 - Alba gu bráth
[Nexus 6  General] barry_:
There aren't any major flaws... reading the reviews, it seems that screen brightness seems to be something that has upset some. I'd say go for it (i'm sure the five year condition can be negotiated!) as it will stand the test of time.

You might want to think about protecting it... there's a great offer still on here >>> http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/access...0-off-xtreme-guard-screen-protectors-t2934679

Good Luck.
[Nexus 6  General] mustyrash:
Have you considered a nexus 7 2013 instead. Its way cheaper and pretty much the same experience despite the difference in hardware. 5 years is a long time with 1 phone, maybe a small tablet this year and a new phone next year or the year after.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 6  General] Super Chimp:
I have no interest in rooting but prefer pure Android, and I suspect I'm not the only one. I also dispute your statement that its a developer phone, the Nexus range might have started out that way but it's far more than that limited niche now.
[Nexus 6  General] Keydogg1:
Not at all. I've rooted many phones in the past, but only because as stock they weren't good/smooth/fast enough. The whole reason I bought a Nexus 5 is because I wanted to not have to root and put on a custom ROM on for a fast, snappy and silky smooth phone. Which it succeeded at being.