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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
It's not just the software differences (which are important) as the comparatively sized Nexus 6 has a .26" larger screen & dual front facing stereo speakers (hardware differences that the user consistently interfaces with) while the Note 4 has its removable battery-expandable storage & integrated digitizer-Spen adding its own unique versatility & creativity opportunities (particularly if artistically inclined).

Since my Note 2 there are many floating Multi-Window Multi-Task apps out there (floating browser, GPlayer freely offers up to 8 resizeable simulatanous videos running when selected from the default 2, Tiny Apps, Floating Apps etc). If there are other floating apps that work across unrooted or rooted Android that you like feel free to mention them.

I'd like to read reviews & use them both in my hands side by side before deciding. Last week when I had a final release black Note 4 in my hand (which sounded much better than the original white Best Buy Note 4 demo speaker btw) I actually felt the screen could be bigger with more immersive sound (maybe because an edge of the screen was covered by a security attachment & I was in a loud store but I wouldn't be surprised if the Note 5 gets bigger along with dual speakers).

However I'm coming from the Note 2 while using protective cases with kickstands & utilizing other gripping enhancements that makes one handed use a total non-issue as I described at http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56099483&postcount=41 .

Before the Note 2 I had the HTC EVO 4G with its built-in kickstand & 4.3" screen which in 2010 was considered huge but if I had the chance to get a top end pocketable handset with ~6" screen then I would have even if it wasn't yet fashionable. If fashion conformity was a primary concern I'd just own an iPhone from day one but I instead find myself interested in the most progressive handset available which may just be the Nexus 6 now. If I didn't already own the Note 2 I'd be less interested in the Nexus 6 but I'm interested in the biggest available upgrade experience & where prior Nexus' failed, the Nexus 6 may succeed. The next 2 weeks should provide more insight..:cool:

[IMG="Note 4 & Nexus 6 next to each other but not level"]http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/nexus-6/handson/phone/gsmarena_021.jpg[/IMG] Ref: http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/nexus-6/handson/phone/gsmarena_021.jpg & http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_nexus_6-review-1158.php

[YOUTUBE]watch?v=Z_eM-jXxbik[/YOUTUBE] Try to watch in FHD - Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_eM-jXxbik

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nexus+6&filters=hour&lclk=hour

https://www.youtube.com/results?filters=today&search_query=nexus+6&lclk=today

https://www.youtube.com/results?filters=week&lclk=week&search_query=nexus+6

https://www.youtube.com/results?filters=month&search_query=nexus+6&lclk=month

http://www.androidauthority.com/google-nexus-6-try-like-544080/
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tykalx:
one comparison i want to know more about is screen brightness, my wife's Galaxy S5 is bright and dim at night when need to.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
Screen brightness is discussed some at http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56143803&postcount=39 but I also earlier tonight posted at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KArExo6O1M

SMARTPHONEPC1 hour ago

Dual ff speaker test? YouTube 1080p movie trailer+song at higher volumes (speakerphone test if you have the time but it's more likely solid)? Everyone mentions the dual front facing stereo speakers with no actual demonstration. At least we know the screen is great but you could test out the brightness-dimness compared to others particularly if you have a Samsung Note 4 handy.. Thanks & hope you upload that speaker test asap!﻿

[YOUTUBE]watch?v=7KArExo6O1M[/YOUTUBE]

For dimness at night on my Note 2 I use an effective free app called "Screen Dimmer" by Sebastien Morand but I should say I was impressed by not only how much brighter the Note 4 was compared to my Note 2 but also how remarkably dim it got without the need of the aforementioned free app available across Android. Hope that helps..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
wwjoshdew riffs on the matter today in all his genuine enthusiasm..:):

[YOUTUBE]watch?v=9eE22EVftDA[/YOUTUBE] Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eE22EVftDA
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iunlock:
...ie...IF, I did have the Nexus 6 that is....

:D
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
Best Nexus 6 Unboxing so far

[YOUTUBE]watch?v=L3_emQHLByo[/YOUTUBE] Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3_emQHLByo

[IMG="Another Note 4 to Nexus 6 size comparison"]http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/xmt2zwgljggrophob63o.jpg[/IMG] Ref: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/xmt2zwgljggrophob63o.jpg
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56438666&postcount=6

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrymagid/2014/11/01/hands-on-with-googles-nexus-6/ makes it all more clear:

My Nexus 6 review unit arrived yesterday and after a day of testing, I can say that it compares well against the iPhone 6 Plus. Google isn’t allowing reviewers to publish full-scale reviews until November 12th, but is permitting “first impressions.”..

The full article also reasonably addresses first impressions of screen and sound quality ( http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56436133&postcount=3 ) well & includes a solid (albeit likely not its full resolution) photo of the author's dog.

[IMG="Nexus 6 photo in Forbes article"]http://blogs-images.forbes.com/larrymagid/files/2014/11/yuri-smaller1.jpg[/IMG] Ref: http://blogs-images.forbes.com/larrymagid/files/2014/11/yuri-smaller1.jpg

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/help/nexus-6s-display-compared-to-note-4-t2926583/page2#post56517995

I've noticed first impression articles-videos mention that the Note 4 display colors are more "punchy" (perhaps more color satured by default) but the Nexus 6 (while the handset is only marginally larger) is described as big & beautiful with superior speakers-overall performance.

[IMG="Nexus 6 & Note 4"]http://cdn.gottabemobile.com/wp-content/uploads/Nexus6vsNote4-2-620x412.jpg[/IMG] Ref: http://cdn.gottabemobile.com/wp-content/uploads/Nexus6vsNote4-2-620x412.jpg

This video showed up Nov 4 in case missed:

[YOUTUBE]watch?v=Vj4wRSx55wY[/YOUTUBE] Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj4wRSx55wY
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BACARDILIMON:
No SD not even a thought.

BAD ASS NOTE 4
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
I think the lack of removable battery is an even bigger issue affecting the product lifecycle more than the lack of SDcard but with rapid charging & 64GB option it's a compromise I'm willing to try at this point since I already have a Note2 with a 128GB card & extra battery. Having to connect to your computer to manage storage-large files is not such a big deal, it will also get me to back up locally more often. There's also google drive, dropbox & many other cloud storage services for less sensitive files. Why is no SD not even a thought for you?

I checked out the Note4 again at Best Buy last night & continue feeling like the screen could be bigger, I want the biggest screen that is pocketable. Unless Best Buy is getting different Note 4 demos, I continue being disappointed by the Note 4 speaker. I'm hoping the Nexus 6 can satisfy until the Note 5 when Samsung will likely feel more compelled to have pleasing dual front facing speakers & possibly increase screen size (along with its standard expandable storage & battery & Spen).:cool:

If the Nexus 6 disappoints in actual use despite its likely superior snappy performance, I can always get the Note4. I think the Nexus 6 could feel like more of an upgrade from the Note 2 than the Note 4 but that remains to be seen. I look forward to the many reviews expected next Wednesday Nov 12th.:good:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BACARDILIMON:
For me and work it all about the SD card

BAD ASS NOTE 4
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
Still in the dark.. could you elaborate?

SDcard is not the only way to transfer data..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BACARDILIMON:
Having data on hand. My note 4 has 32gb phone and 64 SD. I have less then 5gb. Ordered the 128 SD card. I have a lot of files and contracts and use AutoCAD drawings on it. The nexus is a bust for what I need.

BAD ASS NOTE 4
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
I have ~3GBs free on my internal 16GB Note2 available space (takes some effort & would have bought larger if was available) & ~9GB free on my 128GB sdcard (have transferred data to prevent lack of storage space there as well) so I do already have to find workarounds. Are your files encrypted?

I even had bought an extra 128 GB sdcard for the Note4 but now I plan to first copy my 128GB sdcard to the other for convenient backup then finally try encrypting device & external sd card. My biggest concern if stolen is not just losing the hardware but that the unencrypted sdcard could be removed before remote wiping with full access to its data. I hadn't done it before because I didn't want it to slow me down but now will make the extra efforts to see how time consuming it would be in practice. Samsung Knox make the encryption process faster & less of a hassle for internal & external storage?

Android L is encrypted by default & lack of access to internals on Nexus 6 may make it more secure for business security purposes..but interested in the experiences of others on this security issue as well.:good:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BACARDILIMON:
No not encrypted. I just can't even think about anything but the note 4 at this time

BAD ASS NOTE 4
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
Compared Nexus 6 side by side & back to Note 4 forum me thinks:)

Has anyone encrypted their Note 4, internal storage-external storage or both & how much does it slow boots, data access etc?

ETA for official Android L (that encrypts everything by default) on T-Mobile Note 4 December (& would Android L on Note4 make it harder to root)?

Any Note 4 Vs Note Edge (only saw it for ~15 minutes today but liked it more than expected) thoughts (now that I seem over the Nexus 6 as an upgrade to my Note2;))?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56869912&postcount=1559

Have to agree, I finally played with both these at T-Mobile side by side & Note 4 won. I considered walking out with a Note 4 but they couldn't sell me a black & I also happen to stop by Best Buy next door after & finally played with the Note Edge which was cooler than I expected but I'm still leaning toward the Note 4 yet will look into the Note Edge more before a final decision.

I'll say the speaker on the Note 4 sounded much better even at max volume at T-Mobile than at Best Buy where it sounded terrible at max volume so not sure why there is such a difference. If the T-Mobile Note 4 or Note Edge I pick up sounds as good as in the T-Mobile store I'll be cool with it but if it sounds like the demo Note 4 at Best Buy at higher volumes (those are in demo modes however) I'd have to return it. The Note 4 speakers at T-Mobile sounded better than expected & while the Nexus 6 dual front facing stereo speakers were nice & occasionally quite impressive they didn't consistently blow me away like the screen on the Note 4 & its superior camera & Spen features. I'm coming from a Note 2 (didn't upgrade to Note 3 because its speaker sounded much worse than my Note 2 but that was also only tested at Best Buy demos & wasn't crazy about its build quality) & the Nexus 6 on paper really appealed to me but didn't impress me in person as much as I was hoping. I'd prefer unlocked for sure but T-Mobile Note 4 should be ok for now. I had no problems with the Nexus 6 size & feel in hand, it was the screen & camera compared to the Note 4 that brought me back there.

The Nexus 6 was butter smooth but the Note 4 didn't stutter in the T-Mobile store so hoping that mostly remains that way. The Nexus 6 battery was 15% when they handed it to me & ~15 minutes later it was down to 7% at which point I "Turbo charged" it for 16 min where it returned to 20% but definitely prefer the Note 4 removable battery & sdcard options as long as the encryption remains fast which I'll also have to test. I'm curious when & what the Note 4 will be like on Android L but someone in the store mentioned Android L on non-Nexus handsets will also make it harder to root?

Below is a shot of both at 100% brightness (didn't notice a salmon color on the Nexus 6 at lower brightness levels or much yellow tint but the Note 4 is just stunning & brightness levels at max & min are amazing).

[IMG="Nexus 6 Vs Note 4 (both max brightness)"]http://i61.tinypic.com/2w1tjbd.jpg[/IMG]

Ref: http://i61.tinypic.com/2w1tjbd.jpg
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bruce lee roy:
Nexus 6 FTW
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sweets55:
Played with a Nexus 6 today and decided to pass on maybe returning my Note 4 for it. I like the Note 4 display, sound/build quality and design more then the Nexus 6. You probably can't go wrong with either phone.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
As long as the Note 4 speaker sounds at all volumes like the demo unit did in the T-Mobile store (which was not in a demo mode) it's a winner, if it sounds like it did at Best Buy (which was in demo mode as it would regularly interrupt what I was doing unlike at T-Mobile store) at highest volumes where it sounded terrible I'll have to return it. I shouldn't have to pay $>800 to be dissatisfied with a fundamental aspect of a multimedia handset smartphone.

I've actually been satisfied with the rear speaker on the Note 2 (of course there's always room for improvement & dual front facing stereo speakers are a better design) but I was not satisfied with the Note 3 speaker in every store tested (including AT&T store where the Note 4 speaker also sounded good compared to BestBuy demo mode Note 4s) so I had to pass on the Note3. I use speakerphone, nav, multimedia, videos, music etc & even though it's connected to BT speakers the vast majority of the time when it happens not to be I don't want to hate em.

I still would appreciate any Note 4 owners commenting on whether encryption slows down the device significantly & when Android L is expected..?

[MENTION=1791411]sweets55[/MENTION] care to elaborate on why you may be returning the Note 4 with those listed aspects you are satisfied with for a Nexus 6 that you played with today?

Sure both are impressive but unless you plan to carry around multiple devices you have to make a decision on which better delivers the most compelling experience while meeting your needs hence this thread to explore such a head to head comparison..:good:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wase4711:
sweets changes his phones like he changes his underwear!

If you root your phone, there are some great roms and sound mods that make the note 4 so loud, you have to turn it down

The screen on the note blows away the nexus screen

note 4 FTW
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
While I can't comment on sweets underwear:D I share your opinion now that I've compared them but will compare them again before paying for my Note4 soon.

My Note 2 is rooted but only did it so quickly because I was able to do it without voiding the warranty (Exynos abuse "Device normal" didn't even have to connect it to a pc)..is that possible to do with the Note 4 or will it unavoidably void my warranty? I've heard Android L/5 will make rooting the N4 much more of a challenge?

I did notice the threads for sound mods but does it only make it louder (I found the volume wasn't the problem only the clarity & lack of pleasing qualities at higher volumes at Best Buy demo mode units). Anyone ever upload a video of this sound mod comparing it to stock?

I remember seeing the Note 4 screen for the first time & had a feeling that it was hard to stop looking at it because it was so mesmerizing, an experience I've never had so completely with any other handset including the Nexus 6 but I'm definitely open minded & will take another look before dropping dollars.:cool:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wase4711:
rooting the note 4, only trips the knox flag, nothing else.

there are endless discussions on what "the warranty" is when this happens, but I've never had an issue returning any phone with a problem while it was still rooted..there are endless threads on this, so read them if you care, but most folks on xda dont..

there are a variety of sound mods, so you can have it louder, super loud, have a "surround sound" experience, where the earpiece speaker AND the rear speaker work when you play music and such, and with Viper and other sound mods, you can make it sound any way you care to.

this is the best smartphone out right now, period, and if you are on t-mobile, there are several custom roms and tweaks already

no reason to wait; just do it
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
Thanks I'll likely pick up the Note4 soon, T-Mobile store took my # because they didn't have the black in stock (while the white may have made the screen pop more I've never bought a white device though I've had a pearl white case along with a different black case back in the EVO 4G days & just stuck with the black Seidio surface case for the current Note2 but just about to order http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MAWQKIW in metal slate color)..

It sounds like those sound mods are another significant reason for me to root..:good: I'd be real interested in watching a video of the surround sound + other sound mods if anyone is up to the task..

No one has ever encrypted their Note 4 here or its sd card? I plan to encrypt so would really appreciate feedback as to whether there is a slow down in responsiveness & when Android L will come to the Note4 possibly in Decemeber would that F' up root access?

-Thnx:cool:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sweets55:
Oh I won't be carrying two phablets. lol I played with the Nexus 6 for 30 mins on/off. I was waiting to speak to the manager I know. I just like the display, sound and build quality plus the look of the Note 4 compared to the Nexus 6. That doesn't mean that much since I feel you need to own a phone to really give a solid opinion though. I'm getting the Gear S smartwatch today so that played into my decision.

Well it's good to have clean undies. lol My recent phones are the LG G2, Flex and G3. I had a few Samsung phones in a row before Note 2 and Galaxy S4. With getting the Gear S smartwatch I'll probably be sticking with the Note 4 for a little while. However I do have a Jump in January. lol My wife and I have Jump so she gets my used phones. hehe Life as a phone junkie...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wase4711:
having these gear watches/health bands only work properly with a samsung phone is a smart move by them; I know that I will continue with samsung phones so my gear 2 neo will work properly..

besides, there has to be a major difference or improvement or reason to move from one phone to another, and I cant imagine a phone with a better overall package of features and options than the Note 4 currently has..

to each his own, but as far as speed, options, custom roms,accessories, nothing beats a t mobile note 4 right now..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zorachus:
I have been on ATT in the Chicago burbs for a few years now, been happy and satisfied with their service, no issues, and we have a good plan = 2 lines Unlimited minutes Unlimited texts, and 10GB shared Data for $130/Month. And with me on next it is $155/Month.

But I always like to at least root my Wife's phone for AdAway and XPosed stuff to tweak her phones better, and me I always root, and install Custom Recovery and ROM my phones, right now on a HTC One M8 converted to GPE and love this phone.

My point is, ATT has gotten worse and worse the last 18 months with locking down their phones, even root can take months to come by on flagship phones. And on principle it is really pissing me off, why give ATT money, if they won't even let me customize my phone anymore ? The ATT Note 2 I had two years ago, was the last best ATT phone IMO, I rooted it and ROM'd the heck out of that phone, but sadly with the new Note 4 those days are long gone and history with ATT.

Long story short, does T-Mobile offer competitive plans to what i currently have ? And how is their service in Chicago area ? Thank you
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] edouble312:
Well, you have two choices based on what you're interested in:

1. Switch service to T-Mobile. I also live in Chicago. The service isn't as good as AT&T here in the city, or elsewhere. LTE/3G data doesn't penetrate buildings as well. The calling and texting seems to be about the same when towers are near, but I know for a fact that AT&T has them beat in terms of coverage outside of major metro areas. I frequently drive between Chicago and Indianapolis- AT&T has 4G or LTE about 85% of the drive, while T-mobile will barely get phone calls to go through, much less high speed data. T-Mobile is cheaper service than AT&T, but you're getting what you pay for.

2. Buy the T-Mobile Note 4 off-contract and unlock it for AT&T. There are lots of threads here on xda about this- and it's what I've just done with my T-Mo note 4! I had done the same with my Note 3, there are presently no issues with t-mobile samsungs and at&T. connecting to LTE, phone calls, mms, sms, etc all works perfectly.

As you said, the AT&T variants are locked down and will probably remain that way. The ONLY note 4 you can buy that has the unlocked bootloader AS WELL AS support for LTE networks in the United States is the T-mobile Note 4. How much of a premium are you willing to pay for having the unlocked bootloader, is what you need to ask yourself. An off contract Note 4 from T-mobile costs $850 after Illinois taxes, and you'll need to activate the line for at least one day, meaning a few more bucks.

Hope that helps. I would go with option #2, especially if you're like me- grandfathered unlimited data from at&t.

obviously, the cost of the note 4's from t-mobile will decrease after the product is widely available and the initial hype dies down. So if you're enjoying your M8, wait a few months and grab a note 4 from swappa.com, ebay, or craigslist
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zorachus:
Good points thanks.

I would almost like to test drive T-Mobile first for like a week, see how it is around town and in my office, etc... I am happy with ATT the past couple years, good service, it's just the principle of them locking down phones really irks me, and makes me want to take business elsewhere.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wase4711:
hey man, nice to see you here

I dont know about that other dude, but my service in the burr ridge/willowbrook area is fantastic with T-mobile

Also, I travel through lombard/villa park/elmhurst alot, and always have super strong signal, and in 8 months, I dont think I have dropped a single call; 4g speeds usually between 15-35 down,and 6-15 up, so I am one happy camper with Tmobile in chicagoland..

Do the test drive if you want confirmation yourself..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zorachus:
Hello neighbor :)

I work in Willowbrook, and most of my business is in the western burbs, so thanks for your input.

And the principle of the idea is pushing me away from ATT, the whole lockdown is so upsetting.

How quick is a port of our numbers from ATT to T-Mobile, if I pick up the Note 4 ?