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[Moto E General] apelamod:
its "says as soon as possible". i think its after nexus devices.
[Moto E General] amarjit_rsingh:
Nexus Devices will be always the first in line and may be we are second or third.
[Moto E General] Mondop:
How you know it? where did you find that kind of Information :eek:eek:OOO
[Moto E General] apelamod:
Maybe amangurung07 read wrong and talking about note 4? Android Lollipop update to the Galaxy Note 4 will arrive in late November or early December. I think we get update really soon.:D

---------- Post added at 08:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:05 PM ----------

https://forums.motorola.com/posts/a7cd4837b5

Here it is more official detail...
[Moto E General] Dhiraj:
I have checked Motorola official update page.There is no update option for Indian XT1022 Model .Why?
[Moto E General] $cofielD:
There's no word as to when exactly Motorola will rollout the updates for it's devices. But it will rollout the updates before the end of this year as said in the Motorola official forum.
[Nexus Player General] jumper62:
the first official android tv player has been announced. Interesting specs. Anyone thinking of getting one?

http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/15/6982375/google-nexus-player-android-tv-set-top-box-announced

http://www.google.com/nexus/player/
[Nexus Player General] DummyPLUG:
the concept is interesting, but the spec is not
[Nexus Player General] XeLLaR*:
99$? Insta-buy! Just waiting for the pre-order in Germany :D

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5 mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus Player General] Mi|enko:
I have an ADT-1 and thoroughly love it. By far, the best XBMC experience you could ask for, but the device holistically is pretty damn cool too. Going to be ordering 2 of these as well.
[Nexus Player General] Lucke:
what does this have to do with the Nexus 5 section? not wanting to be a forum-nazi, but it's pretty useless in this section.
[Nexus Player General] jumper62:
There is no dedicated android TV forum

Edit found it now. Thread has been moved. Thanks moderator
[Nexus Player General] Johmama:
Really cool idea and I'd buy one if I didn't already have a Nexus 5, Nexus 7, Chromecast, a Slimport cable, and a PS3 controller. With all that, the possibilities are vast. If playing a game, I'll use my N5, hook it up to the TV via Slimport, and use my PS3 controller. If watching a show, I'll just cast my screen via Chromecast, with the option of using the Slimport cable.

So since the controller is Bluetooth Smart, I can sync it with my phone and tablet, right? Typical Bluetooth syncing process? A spare controller might be a nice little plus to convince me to buy a (another) little gadget device. Like I said, it's a neat idea but I definitely don't need it.
[Nexus Player General] jumper62:
Quite interesting that it's using a Intel processor. Wonder how that will perform. Also any micro SD slot?
[Nexus Player General] superkoal:
Yes, there's a similar question i got:

does it have a usb host port?

As the specs don't mention one (like the sd-slot) i guess there won't be one, what makes sense if you think about their interest in people streaming stuff from google play...

Amazon blocks usb mass storage and google doesn't even add a port, what also makes usb gamecontrollers unusable...
[Nexus Player General] mrw1215:
I'll most likely buy one at some point to replace my Roku, but one of the important apps to me is the WWE Network app, and I highly doubt WWE will care enough about their app to update for compatibility with Android TV any time soon. So, I'll have to hold out until they support Android TV.
[Nexus Player General] jmerrilljr2:
There is a mini usb port. External storage?
[Nexus Player General] brizey:
Sigh. Google, y u hate Ethernet?

Another stationary device that eats up wifi bandwidth to save on a 50 cent Gig-E port. Its just plain dumb.
[Nexus Player General] poisike:
Is there any official information about European availability?

Does it support HDMI-CEC?
[Nexus Player General] Konstigt:
I'll get one to replace the Chromecast in our living room. Will be really nice to have a remote to, for example, pause if I get a call. Try to do that on your phone while casting something..

If it hasn't got HDMI-CEC.. that would just be stupid. Hope it has.

Doesn't bother me that it hasn't got wired Ethernet. My WiFi is excellent and I can easily get +600Mbps real performance on my laptop and +250Mbps on my Nexus 5 so the AC-chip on this will do for all my streaming needs and then some.
[Nexus Player General] Johan1976:
Any information yet which formats are supported? Is it like chromecast limited to h264 and aac or can it play mkv files with dvd MPEG streams? (how I store my DVD library currently in plex)

Skickat från min GT-I9505 via Tapatalk
[Nexus Player General] brizey:
My problem is that I don't live by myself, and we live in a relatively high density area (~3k to ~4k sq ft houses on 60 ft lots). We have three tablets, two ipod touches, two smartphones, occasionally a laptop or two. I have really good wifi coverage (using ubiquiti APs). But my next door neighbors media room is really close to our master bedroom suite and she uses wireless for everything (which is ridiculous...my old company wired her house...I know she has a lan drop in her media room, lol). So she constantly pegs 1 and 11 in 2.4 GHz. So I use 6 on that side of the house. But I can see at least 4 other APs from my neighbors on 6, and that's just those that broadcast. Our phones are are the only two AC devices we currently have.

It would probably be OK on AC. I have one AC AP and my family room cabinets where my equipment is in is only about 20 feet from the AP through wood cabinet doors. But add in a cheapo GigE port and there is nothing to worry about at all. Again, its a stationary device, no reason to use wifi. I think the issue is that these devices are developed by people who live in rented apartments or in parts of the world where adding a lan drop in a home is cost prohibitive (concrete walls, etc.). It never occurs to them that a huge portion of their target audience has a wired lan in their home.
[Nexus Player General] byrdcfmma:
I would not be supprised, WWE app has been on Fire TV for a while. It should not take much, if any, reconfiguring to add it to the play store for the player.
[Nexus Player General] instig8:
Just heard about this. Interesting indeed. I am in the UK and have got an Amazon Fire TV on preorder (released 23rd Oct) not sure whether to ditch that pre-order and go for this or keep the AFTV.
[Nexus Player General] SpazoQC:
No ethernet is a bummer, but I'm still looking forward to it

need to find the perfect Plex box
[Nexus Player General] KoubaK:
I'm going to be pre-ordering one tomorrow as soon as they become available for pre-order... If I'm still awake by midnight, might do it then.

The lack of Ethernet port is truly a bummer, but I guess I will try to get another device off my Wi-Fi lol
[Nexus Player General] edgardo_0691:
I waited until Google launched this box. But compared to others of the same price this only has 1 GB of RAM and Intel Atom processor . I 'll wait for the next generation. I like the specification of Fire TV but the Amazon FireOS no catches my attention.
[Nexus Player General] mrw1215:
True, I suppose, but I feel like the Android TV OS will kind of fly under the radar for a while until there are more boxes/ TVs out that use it. I feel like the Fire TV seemed like a big deal when it was first unveiled, and they probably felt compelled to support it. For what it's worth, they never added any kind of Chromecast support on the app, which I imagine wouldn't have been THAT hard, so I'm skeptical of how quickly they might add support for Android TV.
[Nexus Player General] vbetts:
The 1gb of ram is a little low, but the Bay Trail Atom inside of it isn't bad.

My Galaxy s III(Not DDR3 mind you) has 2gb of ram.
[Nexus Player General] byrdcfmma:
the fire tv was a big deal due to the specs alone, it beat everything on the market in performance in it's price point of around $100 and was the first major commercial player in quadcore streaming while everyone else is still in single and dual core hardward. I would be very surprised if Google does not go head to head against the FTV and get it up to speed very quickly. In fact the specs are close, so if Google doesnt lockdown the bootloader and rooting capabilities, I think they will hit a home run with this in the home streaming market.

BTW, your Roku has a great UI, but compared to the FTV's specs and the semi-open UI, IMO, it is doesnt command the same presence as it did in the marketplace 6-12 months ago. Plus, Google has the $$ to throw around to buy the market if it wants to away from the smaller companies like Roku.

http://phandroid.com/2014/04/02/amazon-fire-tv-vs-roku-vs-apple-tv-vs-chromecast-chart/
[Nexus Player General] jumper62:
1gb of ram and 8gb of non expandable storage isn't good enough. Hopefully other devices will be better
[Nexus Player General] vbetts:
The Nexus Player will support external storage.

The 1gb of ram is also DDR3, hopefully it is high buffered ddr3 as well. That would help out a lot.
[Nexus Player General] eksasol:
Assuming this device have Playstore access and google services like Play Games, it make it so much more useful than FireTV imo.

I wanted a device like this since the Ouya, but now I have the Roku 3, which have it's own advantages, too bad the apps ecosystem sucks. I'm just not willing to give up the Roku 3 for some of the things the Nexus Player doesn't get: Ethernet port (consistent HD streaming), full size USB port, microSD card, WiFiDirect remote controller with headphone jack output.

It would be nice to get a Nexus Player, but largely, the family just need Netflix, DLNA access, YouTube casting, Plex. There's not going to be any advance things like rooting. The Roku 3 suffice for now. I might pick up a refurb Nexus Player maybe.
[Nexus Player General] Pilz:
It will be rooted thats not even a question these days. I'm sure there will be custom ROM's for it as well because its Android and we can. I don't need an ethernet connection because I have an Asus RT-AC68U which supports wifi AC and can easily handle the bandwidth demands of the 8+ devices I have right now. I thought the controller (gamepad) was wifi direct and the remote was bluetooth? For the money its a great deal and you get $20 of google play credit when you buy it.
[Nexus Player General] xBIGREDDx:
It's not BayTrail, it's Moorefield:

Intel Press Release

ARK page as linked from AndroidPolice.
[Nexus Player General] jaykresge:
I'm simultaneously excited and disappointed in this. I understand their need to hit a $100 target, as that's the price of today's most popular streaming devices. And while I am a spec whore, I think that a lot of people here are seriously underestimating the specs on this device. The Intel Atom / PowerVR combo is no slouch. The scant benchmarks we have shows that Moorefield/PowerVR slightly edges out the Snapdragon 801 in performance. The Fire TV uses a Snapdragon 600.

The RAM is a question, until you compare what this device does. My last two phones have been stock-like devices (S4 GPE, Moto X), and both RARELY top 1GB of RAM used. Now keep in mind that Android TV won't be multi-tasking that much. Its main function is the foreground app (whatever streaming app/game you're using) and the background UI. You won't be using a recents button to quickly swap between active applications. For the intended audience 1GB of RAM is more than enough.

So while I understand why Google was aiming for the $99 target, I wish they'd offer a slightly higher SKU to go with it, something with 32GB storage and 2GB RAM for the heavier users at $149-$169. Thankfully, this is the baseline model. For those who want more, we're going to have other options from other OEMs. I'm probably going to get one of these at launch if we haven't seen the others announced, and then move it to the bedroom when the heavies come out, swapping something like Razor's into the living room.

If this offers the fluidity/response/stability of my Roku with the features of my WDTV, I'll be happy. Anything else is a bonus.
[Nexus Player General] vbetts:
Really isn't a whole lot to get excited about then...=\
[Nexus Player General] xBIGREDDx:
Why not? Moorefield has the exact same Silvermont CPU core that's in BayTrail, just without all the extra junk required for Windows machines. I've read that Moorefield is actually better than BayTrail in many ways.
[Nexus Player General] sluflyer06:
Moorefield is a newer product than BayTrail, for better or worse you do trade off Intel GPU for a PowerVR that is supposed to be equivalent to Adreno330 which is MORE than enough for this device on 1080p. The cpu is the same essentially as baytrail.
[Nexus Player General] lartomar2002:
Do you know where I can buy a ADT-1? Also, why are the specs and form factor so different for the Nexus player?
[Nexus Player General] jumper62:
You apply for it
[Nexus Player General] lartomar2002:
Thank, that answered one of my questions. Do you know why the Nexus player has different specs than the ADT-1? I thought the ADT-1 was the beta version of the retail version of the Google Android TV.
[Nexus Player General] jaykresge:
ADT-1 is a reference box for development. Nexus Player is a baseline, mass-market model meant to compete against the $100 Rokus and Apple TVs of the world. Higher end models will exist.

Basically, the Nexus Player is meant to run Netlfix, Hulu, or whatever streaming app(s) of your choice while going a little above and beyond. The other Android TV units that we'll see coming out soon will be higher-end with better support for gaming and other functions.
[Nexus Player General] nhumber:
thats not what google is trying to do with the nexus player, they dont care about making money on the nexus player hardware, the specs of this box imo are irrelevant, they are trying to get the "android TV" platform started with a low price tag to get it out and get the ball rolling so the platform is picked up by devs and hardware manufacturers to start making compatible software, and "players" respectively, these days google wants to compete with companies like amazon for their online media on demand services not for hardware sales. im sure higher specd "galaxy players" and "xperia players" are right around the corner.
[Nexus Player General] lartomar2002:
I was looking forward to the player with the nvidia tetra k1 not just for watching movies but also to play the same graphic intense 3d games as the Nvidia Shield. To have both capabilities in one stb would be the best of both worlds.
[Nexus Player General] jaykresge:
Then I would suggest to avoid the Nexus player as it's not aimed at you. I fully expect to have a Tegra K1-powered Android TV device, and I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of the first:

http://www.razerzone.com/press/deta...nect-android-entertainment-in-the-living-room

My wife and I are going to get a Nexus Player shortly after release after I confirm a few features. That will go in our living room, bumping the WDTV upstairs to the bedroom, and retiring the Roku that's currently in the bedroom. Once a decent Android TV gaming device comes out (more RAM, more storage), that will move to the living room, bump the Nexus Player to the bedroom, and retire the WTDV and Chromecast.
[Nexus Player General] byrdcfmma:
I never said they are trying to make money selling hardware, the $$ is in the delivery of the service and of course they are going after Amazons online media and on demand service, but guess what? You have to make competitive hardware for your platform to be taken seriously. You think it is a coincidence the specs match up so close?

Unless I'm missing something, I think we are making the same point;)
[Nexus Player General] r3pwn:
I find it odd, though, that the Nexus Player has worse specs than the ADT-1. Probably to cut the cost down, if I had to guess.
[Nexus Player General] Mi|enko:
Agreed. I was pretty surprised by the change in specs and form factor. Was thinking about ordering a couple Nexus Players, but think I'd rather hold out and try to find a couple more ADT-1s or see what 3rd parties have to offer from a ATV standpoint. Razer's alleged offering could be compelling (even if a little pricier).

http://www.cnet.com/products/razer-android-tv/#!
[Nexus Player General] lartomar2002:
Yeah, I thought it was to be released as a consumer version of the ADT-1. As it stands now I foresee it being a flop like the Nexus Q.
[Nexus Player General] r3pwn:
Like stated earlier, they probably cut down on specs to cut down on cost. $99 is a hard price tag to make money off of. The Nexus Q was a good idea, just wasn't gone about in the best way possible. I think they're trying to fix that this time around with the lower price. Some ADT-1s go on eBay for around $300 (unopened). I honestly think the Chromecast was neat (especially for only $35), but lacked some features. The Nexus Player seems like more of a compromise between the Chromecast and The ADT-1.
[Nexus Player General] Mi|enko:
Here's to hoping somebody ports an ATV ROM for the nexus Q. Mine's been collecting dust since I first brought it home after I/O. It really wasn't too compelling.
[Nexus Player General] r3pwn:
If they release the source, then someone could just build an ATV port for it...
[Nexus Player General] Mi|enko:
Guess that's the question. They never released source for Google TV, but there was also no Nexus iteration of that.
[Nexus Player General] Konstigt:
Based on what is known for the hardware, does it seem probably that screen mirroring latency will be lower? Since it has 5 GHz 802.11ac and faster CPU than Chromecast.

The main reason for wanting this so be as low as possible is for gaming and hopefully you don't need screen mirroring for that any longer since you can game on the Player itself :) But when you use mirroring, of course you want to have as low latency as possible.
[Nexus Player General] hayzooos:
Here's a totally random and off base question about this player...what are the chances you'd be able to play console games from an external drive? I had a modded XBox way back in the day and still have some of the games on an old external drive I don't use anymore. Would be kinda cool to go back and play some of them now and again with the optional controller since it's set up the same way.

I don't know if this is even technically possible, but I figure this is probably the best place to ask.
[Nexus Player General] sublimnl:
http://www.theisozone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=42672

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus Player General] hayzooos:
So you're saying that's a no. Bummer dude. Thanks for the response.
[Nexus Player General] Mi|enko:
On my ADT-1, I've been able to push SNES ROMs to the internal SD space (/data/media) and then installed SuperGNES. After setting up the buttons, it worked pretty damn good. The only downside is the limited amount of content I can put on the internal memory, due to the small size.
[Nexus Player General] JosterNL:
http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/29/nexus-player-hands-on-google/
[Nexus Player General] bluefoam:
Will this be able to run regular apps from the play store, or do apps have to be written specifically for Google TV?
[Nexus Player General] jaykresge:
You can sideload apps with mixed results. Most should "run" though you'll need to find a way to emulate a touch screen. Since Android already has basic gamepad support (I've used PS3 controllers with USB OTG), you can navigate MOST apps this way.

Google has told developers that they must flag their app as Android TV compatible in order for the app to be visible in the Play Store to an Android TV device. Google is hoping that app developers will test their app on Android TV first to ensure that they take advantage of ATV's interface and remote/gamepad as opposed to expecting touch control.
[Nexus Player General] bigwillis:
I have Sony google TV remote with touch pad on it. Could I use it on the player? Im really gonna need a mouse to work on this thing if what I'm reading is correct.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus Player General] JosterNL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMWD0iDials

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/11/googles-nexus-player-more-prototype-than-finished-product/
[Nexus Player General] JosterNL:
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/03/google-nexus-player-review/
[Nexus Player General] jumper62:
All the reviews are same. Main issues are software bugs, lack of apps and storage
[Nexus Player General] sublimnl:
Apps will come and it also seems like they are ignoring the googlecast support when talking about apps. Storage doesn't matter if you don't plan on gaming. Have any reviewers tried OTG?

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus Player General] jumper62:
They talked about connecting to a computer, nothing else
[Nexus Player General] sublimnl:
I don't understand a lot of the tech press around this device. They either don't get it or are playing dumb. This is what amounts to the combination of a chromecast and a roku plus it will run android apps. Its going to be huge in my opinion. Also google didn't start allowing developers to publish androidtv apps until just yesterday so the lack of apps is expected given they were only working with their close partners up until now. As it is, Plex, Netflix, YouTube, and the entire chromecast app ecosystem is plenty. Plus I will be sideloading XBMC (for Live TV via WMC/HDHomeRun) and other apps like the Australian ABC iView app for my wife so she can get her Aussie TV fix. No other device is this versatile despite its current shortcomings. I currently have 2 fire TVs and this is basically that plus googlecast, which is the only thing I feel I am missing with the FireTV. With this I will finally be down to ONE device that does EVERYTHING I need.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus Player General] JosterNL:
I'm still hesitant and not convinced yet. In my opinion, there are problems which are not "lack of apps related". Wifi connection, connecting the controller with bluetooth, playing video's and Netflix smoothly, searching all apps and not only apps from Google, side loaded apps on the home screen etc.

http://www.cnet.com/products/google-nexus-player/

http://gizmodo.com/nexus-player-review-android-tv-isnt-ready-for-primetim-1654020445

http://online.wsj.com/articles/nexu...-needs-content-to-beat-competition-1415057905
[Nexus Player General] mikereidis:
The lack of posts here on XDA indicate that there is little interest in Nexus Player, at least among the modding/ROM'ing community.

Lukewarm to negative reviews just add to this XDA evidence.

I would not have pre-ordered personally.

I DID pre-order as a developer to whom this is a business expense, and an opportunity to explore a new and potentially promising (eventually ?) Nexus category.

Based on reviews so far, I think most will give this generation of Player/Android TV a pass, and see what the next generations bring.

I also pre-ordered a Nexus 9 as a developer looking for a good 64 bit Android test device. If I was just a user though, I would wait and see. My Nexus 7 (2013) is still just fine for testing, and I like my Sony Z2 tablet well enough that I wouldn't consider a new tablet for non-dev use.
[Nexus Player General] marctronixx:
i dont follow bandwagon/sheep and the lack of posts on this forum makes no influence on what i spend my bread on.

i purchased two of these for my two displays as well as two controllers. i am not a modder so i am not the normal member of this forum.

for me, joe q. public, this will be just fine for my needs. i gave away my launch day fat ps3 ( still have a launch day 3G vita to play pool on :) ) because i dont game anymore but with this sucker if i ever want to do occasional gaming on the tv, i have the opportunity.
[Nexus Player General] lartomar2002:
Ha, believe it or not my Ouya meets all of my casual tv gaming needs and I as for a media player since it now has 5.1 DD and DTS passthrough I do not see any reason for upgrading.