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[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
I have no idea, I just know the first batch sent out to stores got pulled back causing a delay for everyone. I'm fairly sure when ordering online they wouldn't pull from recalled stock. I'm sure you're fine.
[Nexus 6  General] XERO_Racer:
ah well cuz I bought mine from store, and funny thing is, theres two corporate stores, I gave one of them a call to see if they have it stock and they said they dont have N6s in stock and were told to send back the "defective units", afterwards i called the other location and they had a few in stock, just thought I'd asked
[Nexus 6  General] jtwlbz:
I don't think so. Mine had a green dot on the box. No problem. I returned it though becuz I don't like it staying with my n5 for another year.
[Nexus 6  General] rans0m00:
The defective units are supposed to be not functional straight out of the box. Odds of you having one and not knowing it are really not good.
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
Do any stores have them in stock? Online rep said its not available in stores.
[Nexus 6  General] rans0m00:
Have to check with your local store. Some have had it while others don't. As of 4 days ago my local store had them in Stock.
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
Wow, how did they get so many options?
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
So jealous. Really want 64gb.
[Nexus 6  General] Ukwildcatsrule:
Ordered nexus 6 yesterday from att was told not available in stores and that will take 3 to 5 to ship so just waiting now.
[Nexus 6  General] XERO_Racer:
I called the corp store i bought my N6 just for the heck of it and well they dont have any stock now, and the other corp store still doesnt have it, very weird
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
I'll wait until Verizon gets a 64gb White in stock. If they don't I simply won't get the phone and will wait until the 2015 phones.
[Nexus 6  General] SilkyJohnson:
Hope you have a lot of time.
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
That's all any of us got lol.
[Nexus 6  General] 9wire:
Got mine in the att store, they had 3 in stock.
[Nexus 6  General] Ukwildcatsrule:
Cool I was told Monday not in stores by att rep and ordered mine online still waiting on it to come.
[Nexus 6  General] jackpollard:
When I checked ATT online, I saw they had the N6's available, this was Tuesday 12/2, so I placed my order that night. I paid for next day or 2 day I forget. It went in process Weds., shipped Thursday and was in my hands on Fri. It came Fedex and the odd thing was, it did not need a signature. I kind of rushed home to make sure I was home, but it ended up not needing a sig.
[Nexus 6  General] crashercarlton:
In the future, get the tracking number, and sign in online to fedex.com and sign for it electronically beforehand. I was duped once by verizon and was 1 try away from them sending the phone back because i wasn't home much during the week. Ever since then I sign for it electronically beforehand.
[Nexus 6  General] atcchris:
Has anyone received the OTA to 5.0.1 yet? I saw one person claiming to have received it on an ATT purchased N6 on droid-life. Maybe ATT won't hold up updates? Or maybe they held it up already and that's why this is a little behind the WiFi only models...
[Nexus 6  General] mjj7801:
I received the update. ATT Nexus 6. No issues.
[Nexus 6  General] rdogger:
I flashed the image, has anyone noticed their signal strength being awful? Getting slow speeds as well.
[Nexus 6  General] atcchris:
Nice! That's really cool then. At least right now, ATT isn't blocking anything at all.

I wonder if an unlocked bootloader will stop me from getting the OTA. I do not have root or anything and haven't modified system partition or anything. Just oem unlocked.

If I don't get the OTA by Friday I will just side load anyways.
[Nexus 6  General] Ukwildcatsrule:
Same here my signal is now 2 bars at best and LTE speeds are less than 5 mb where they were in 30 to 35 mb range before and when I reboot it takes a good 3 mins before it recognozes I have a signal..all this after update to 5.0.1.
[Nexus 6  General] lyall29:
Just being unlocked won't stop the OTA. I however unlocked, rooted and removed a few at&t things from the oem partition. I got the OTA notification last night, so I flashed the stock recovery and tried to install the OTA and it failed. I ended up just flashing the factory images via fastboot.
[Nexus 6  General] perlsyntax:
I got a few question on buy the nexus 6 from att.I want to know if it come with att app or you have to download them?

And has anyone buy nexus 6 No annual contract and do you have to buy the sim card?
[Nexus 6  General] lyall29:
The phone comes with the at&t boot animation and at&t ringtones. If you boot the phone before you install an at&t Sim card, the phone will not download any at&t apps. If the phone was booted up the first time with an at&t Sim card, the phone will download a couple of at&t apps, but those apps are uninstallable.

If you rename the at&t bootanimation.zip to bootanimation.zip.bak, and delete the at&t ringtones, your phone will be just like you purchased it from the play store. You of course need to root your phone to do this.
[Nexus 6  General] perlsyntax:
Maybe the unlocked nexus 6 is a better deal.:)
[Nexus 6  General] lyall29:
If your going to pay full price, then the unlocked Nexus is definitely a better deal.
[Nexus 6  General] atcchris:
If you can find one to buy.
[Nexus 6  General] perlsyntax:
That true:)

Does google get out better support on there phones?
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
There have not been many reports from the perpetually sold out, GPS store versions, but as far as i can tell, even if you get a GPS store n6, when you put your att sim in, it will still download the att bloat and possibly activate the ring tones. thing is, i have not heard any direct reports from people who got their n6 from Moto or GPS and then stuck an att sim in it. have you? has anyone bought from att and stuck in a non-att sim BEFORE first boot?

So far, the only difference i can be certain of when buying from att vs moto or GPS, is that easily removed death star stencil. the fact that inserting an att sim causes other changes, does not make the att "version" different than the others.

-peter
[Nexus 6  General] lyall29:
The Play store Nexus will not have the at&t ringtones or the at&t boot animation, no matter what Sim card is in the phone. I know the Play store nexus won't have these because the boot animation and the ringtones are located in the OEM partition and there is no reason for Google or Motorola to add these if the phone is not locked to at&t.

When you flash the factory image from google on an at&t nexus, the OEM partition will still contain the at&t boot animation and the ringtones. If you delete the at&t ringtones and boot animation from the OEM partition, you will never get them back, even if you reflash the factory image from Google. I know this because I have done it.

The at&t Nexus also checks for a WiFi feathering plan before it will let you share your data connection. The Nexus from Google won't do this.
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
got it. thanks. that answers a lot of questions i had about this.

-peter
[Nexus 6  General] rock7632:
You're right about everything except for the last part about tethering. All nexus 6's regardless of where they were bought check for tethering plan. I have a play store Nexus 6 and have tried sim cards from all 4 carriers and T-Mobile is the only one that works for tethering
[Nexus 6  General] lyall29:
I did not know that. Thanks for correcting me.
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
So other than logo there's no difference. Easily replaced back cover takes care of that...
[Nexus 6  General] truciet:
Or scratch the logo? It can be easily removed. ;)
[Nexus 6  General] phishfi:
Well, not necessarily... The AT&T's nexus 6 is SIM-locked. You can pay ~$10 to get it unlocked elsewhere, or pay it off in full at AT&T and have them unlock it (not sure how easy that process is though).

But yes, if you root the device, you can clear the /oem files, and then just scratch the logo off of the back (check YouTube, one guy did it was a credit card and you can't even tell that it had the logo on afterwards).
[Nexus 6  General] lyall29:
I'm not 100% sure as to why the ota to 5.0.1 failed on my at&t nexus, but it did fail and I had to flash the factory images. Before trying to update via the ota, I flashed the stock recovery, so the only reason that I can think of that the ota failed, is that I did remove the at&t ringtones and bootanimation.zip. I don't mind flashing the factory images, but others might. If you buy the Nexus from Google or Motorola, you won't have to worry about any carrier crap, if that kind of stuff bothers you. I know a lot of people that don't even want to have to think about rooting a phone, even if its a Nexus.
[Nexus 6  General] rdogger:
I flashed the old radio last night with no change. Decided to flash the new one again and it fixed my issues, getting better signal now.
[Nexus 6  General] neopolotin75:
Were you able to do the update again? I think the update may have been pulled...I had it and now its gone. The boot animation and ringtones wouldn't make the update fail.
[Nexus 6  General] lyall29:
No, when the update failed and I rebooted the phone, the update notification was gone. So I checked for updates in settings and it said that my phone was up to date. I then flashed the factory images via fastboot. I don't know why it failed because I flashed the stock recovery. Other than root, I was stock.
[Nexus 6  General] Nastrodamous:
you cant flash OTAs while you have root.
[Nexus 6  General] lyall29:
If that is the case then this is a first. As long as you have the stock recovery, it doesn't matter if your rooted or not. The ota will normally work and you have to re-root. It doesn't matter to me either way, as I don't mind flashing the factory images.
[Nexus 6  General] Nastrodamous:
it does matter if you are rooted any change to the system partition will not allow for OTA updates.
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
Has anyone with the att version gotten the 5.01 ota yet?

I just unrooted by flashing the stock 5.0 lrx21o image about an hour ago, and i relocked the bootloader, and no ota...yet.

Oh and even when rooted I didn't have a custom recovery, so the lack ota so far shouldn't be because of that.

-Peter
[Nexus 6  General] P1 Wookie:
I did. But if you were going to flash a factory image, why didn't you just flash the 5.0.1 factory image to begin with?
[Nexus 6  General] bodosom:
Yes. However as previously noted I deferred the install since I knew it would fail and when I went looking for it later it wasn't on the phone. Now doing an update check says I'm up to date.

I'll install the updated bits from the factory image when convenient.

Unless you're running a system that does block image checking rather than file checking. Android L does block checking.
[Nexus 6  General] vovak43r:
Yes. 2 days on 5.0.1 already. ( all Google apps requested an update from play store after the upgrade )
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
no practical reason...just for my own fun and education. i know i could have just flashed 5.01... but i'm new to the nexus world and wanted to see an ota and how it works before i root again. i don't do much that needs root, but playing around with this stuff is fun for me.

been back to stock 5.0 for 12 hours now and still no ota offered. and when i check manually, it says i'm up to date is that weird or expected? :headscratch:

-peter
[Nexus 6  General] atcchris:
That's totally expected. Google staggers out updates and sometimes it is excruciatingly long (Read: 2-4 weeks). A lot of Nexus owners (myself included) will wait about a week at most and then sideload the OTA, or flash factory.
[Nexus 6  General] devong67:
Just ordered - what should be my first steps?

I ordered my Nexus 6 from AT&T yesterday and even though it said it would ship between 12/19 and 12/23 it shipped yesterday and it should be arriving tomorrow. What are the first things I should do when I get the phone? Also, has AT&T updated their visual voicemail app for the Nexus 6 (I had read about this)? If not, is there another app that I should use to access VMs?

Thanks for your input.

Devon
[Nexus 6  General] torred:
First thing you get yourself a drink of choice then search , read and read some more.

Tons of info in this thread alone and many more on this topic.
[Nexus 6  General] bodosom:
That depends on what you want. The remove customizations thread speaks to the things you might want to do.

The Q&A sub-thread is for "operational" questions. There are a couple of visual voicemail threads there with links to apks. Note that AT&T VVM is not "compatible" with any Nexus phone so you can't get it from the PlayStore.

From my perspective part of having a Nexus is being integrated into the Google ecosystem so I use Google Voice. I only give out my mobile number to people who are "allowed" to call me at 3 a.m.
[Nexus 6  General] devong67:
Thanks. I am coming from a Samsung Galaxy S4 (AT&T), and before that HTC Evo 4G (Sprint). I am familiar with Android L (Nexus 9 and Nexus 7) so I am not new to that. Just looking for recommendations. I am pretty sure I will most likely root the device - my HTC Evo 4G was rooted and I did install some custom Roms. Not sure I want to do the ROM thing with the Nexus 6, but root does come in handy sometimes. As for the bloatware, sounds, boot animation, etc. - I'm not too overly concerned with them (sounds like they are not really that bad in the grand scheme of things on this phone). I don't use Google Voice so not sure about that but I may look in to it since I do like VVM.

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Thanks. Been doing that already. It's just that when these threads get big, it is very easy to miss something. Also, sometimes, issues that are discovered at the beginning of a thread (pages 1 - 10) sometimes are resolved by pages 100 or so and it is easy to miss the solution and when you arrive late to the game, sometimes people just assume you know what they do already. I haven't found anything like that with what I have read so far, just checking to make sure I didn't miss it.
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
Still no 5.01 OTA for me yet?

Has anyone else gotten their 5.01 OTA yet? I haven't.

I know I could just flash it. In fact, when the the .img's came up on the google, i intentionally reflashed 5.00 instead of 5.01, to unroot and go back to stock... just to see what the OTA process was like in the Nexus/pure Android world.

-Peter
[Nexus 6  General] atcchris:
Nope, I haven't gotten it. What I really want to know though is how many NON-ATT 6s have gotten it. If all of them, including sprint and T-Mobile purchased have, and we have not... Then there is evidence that ATT is holding up our update some how (shades of Verizon and the GNex.)

The only thing I have is bootloader unlocked. No other modification made.

Edit: I'm not waiting much longer. Actually, I am pretty sure I'm going to sideload the OTA tonight. And then possibly root and double tap to wake and then lightflow to see if I can get that LED working.
[Nexus 6  General] CraigP17:
I got the OTA on my ATT N6 the first night. I have a friend with 2 N6 purchased from Google and 1 from Moto direct...niether have 5.0.1 yet.

I dont think carrier has any effect on this.
[Nexus 6  General] mjj7801:
I also received 5.0.1 on my ATT N6 the first night . I agree the carriers play no part in the process.
[Nexus 6  General] devong67:
I've only had my phone less than 24 hours and haven't gotten the update on AT&T. I am completely stock at the moment, but probably won't remain that way for too long though I'll probably only unlock and root for now.
[Nexus 6  General] atcchris:
Thanks you guys! That's exactly what I wanted to hear. Now, even though I personally haven't gotten the OTA the official way, I can reference this thread for the nay sayers that claim ATT ruined the N6 and is holding back updates, Verizon style.

Edited to remove extra lines...
[Nexus 6  General] bloodydamnhell:
I had the notification, but it went away when I restarted my phone and I haven't seen it since.
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
Well, looky what I just found out?

Ok, so those of us AT&T n6'ers capable of OTA are waiting patiently for our turn, right?

And we know from the tech blogs a couple weeks ago that the carriers WILL be the ones having say on the release of OTA's.

Well guess what I just did with my AT&T nexus 6? I got the sim unlock from swift unlocks, stuck my wife's T-Mobile sim in just to test the unlock. It worked, BTW. But guess what else? Not a couple minutes in with the T-mobile sim and I got my 5.01 OTA notice... From T-Mobile's network. I'm downloading it right now. With my wife's iphone T-Mobile sim in it.

And I'm freshly pissed off at AT&T.

-Peter
[Nexus 6  General] atcchris:
What Tech Blogs said that carriers WILL be the ones releasing the OTA? I must havr missed that...
[Nexus 6  General] robstunner:
Walked into an "att of the future store (McHenry,IL)" and got my nexus 6 in 5 minutes. :)
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nexus+carrier+ota+google+policy+change

It has also been discussed here on xda. Maybe even this very thread... not long ago.

-peter
[Nexus 6  General] bodosom:
Except AT&T has pushed the OTA to some phones (like mine). I believe that historically OTA has been rolling sometimes taking weeks. Well before the rumours of carriers holding things up.
[Nexus 6  General] atcchris:
Wow, so you went with "let me google that for you".... Cool. :sly:

So, I do remember reading this on Android Police though. The surprising thing was that it doesn't matter how/where the N6 was purchased. It will pertain to ALL devices. Obviously has to do with Google deciding to appease the carriers. Not cool. Not on the part of Google or the carriers themselves. However, both parties deserve equal blame.

I'll leave you with this quote (from the article) and link:

"So, in all likelihood, this new wording refers to a change in policy that probably won't do anything more than cause you minor inconvenience..."

- http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...ay-waits-may-be-longer-based-on-your-carrier/
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
Lmgtfy, because you asked me to point you to something that was: well known, previously discussed., and easily searched.

Yes, agreed. Waiting for att was causing me "minor inconvenience" too. Right up until I temporarily installed a T-Mobile Sim. Then I got my ota nearly instantly. And it installed cleanly.

-peter

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Be interesting to see when ATT starts pushing out OTA's again. Seems like only a handful here got theirs, early, some with failed installs, some deferred their install and the offer went away, and nobody's gotten diddly since. At least informally. Oh well, I got mine almost instantly after temporarily installing a tmobile sim.

-peter
[Nexus 6  General] atcchris:
Yeah... Lmgtfy is kind of a **** move. No matter what questions were asked. And it's a **** move from about 6 years ago... Or more.

I can understand though. It's fun to try to piss people off, right? I mean hey, what else is the internet for?

It was only a minor inconvenience for me until I sideloaded the OTA also. Which previously, with my Nexus 4, I used to do every time, because I am never patient enough to wait. So, not much has changed for me.

All of our bickering and pissing in each other's Cheerios isn't going to change anything at all though. Google chose this path, and if we want to use Nexus devices/Android phones, we're along for the ride.
[Nexus 6  General] robstunner:
If you want the ota, turn off your phone, then remove your Sim card, then reboot your phone without the sim card. Working for many people on android central and sure makes it looks like att is the one messing with the update release.
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
Did not know this trick. But thats why found it so interesting that i got the OTA offer as soon as i stuck in the tmobile sim into my just-unlocked att n6... And i didnt even have wifi on at all when i got the offer for the ota over tmobiles network.

Since this is an att thread and i have an att n6, i thought my experience was very interesting. Not to mention the fact that it wasnt long ago that people on this thread were wondering. If "other" (non-att) folks were getting their ota's. Ime, the answer is, YES.

-Peter
[Nexus 6  General] bloodydamnhell:
Perhaps before assuming that at&t has anything to do with slow updates, folks might take note of the 8 quadzillion posts in the N5 forum complaining about getting updates late. The fact of the matter is that Google releases updates in batches and the only thing that determines which batch you are in is random chance. If you happen to get a good roll of the dice, you'll be in the first batch. If it were based on carrier, removing the SIM wouldn't do a damn thing since they know which device is sold through which channel based on IMEI. It's not like phones that came from at&t are contacting an at&t server for updates.

It has been this way since I've owned Nexus devices.
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
I must be one lucky mofo then. I wasn't on T-Mobile a minute and a half when they offered me the ota. And my phone is a stock att phone except I had JUST unlocked it with swiftunlocks. And the imei assigned to that T-Mobile sim card is from my wife's iPhone.

-Peter
[Nexus 6  General] robstunner:
Which is the same thing that's happening to multiple users as well on androidcentral forum.
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
So it wasn't just luck? It had to do with using another network besides att?

That certainly gives credence to the reason why google officially changed its policy to be easier on recalcitrant carriers.

-peter
[Nexus 6  General] smacsteve:
I have the AT&T Nexus 6 and I have yet to receive the 5.01 update as well. I just tried the method described earlier of powering down/remove sim/reboot/checkupdate. Nothing. Same. 5.0 Oh well. Back to waiting for the OTA.
[Nexus 6  General] robstunner:
Some had to wait a few minutes, beats me I'm just regurgitating what I read there.
[Nexus 6  General] dligon:
Don't feel bad in the same boat with at&t nexus 6 I'll probably be just getting the 5.01 update when they're pushing out the 5.1 update.:(
[Nexus 6  General] TonikJDK:
So this thread and the theories made me curious. Here is what I have found out. Using a Moto purchased phone on VZ I repeatedly checked for updates both on Wi-Fi and also with wifi off on a network extender. Both are on my work network which I run.

Either way, when checking for updates all of the servers the phone hits are Google servers. VZ servers are not involved in any way.

I realize this is an att thread but I would be shocked if it is any different on att.
[Nexus 6  General] atcchris:
It isn't! And thank you for reporting that here.

But from what I understand, they have another method of blocking the update and Google does it FOR the carriers by request. It is really Google, more than ATT that is drawing my ire from this situation. Although, ATT must have asked them to hold it up; Google should be pushing it through no matter what, similar to how Apple doesn't allow carriers to interfere with their software or updates.
[Nexus 6  General] TonikJDK:
You are right, they most certainly can hold back updates via IMEI or target them...so yes Google could roll ATT IMEI's slower than pure google phones, or VZ. Boy I really hope they are not doing that and it is a giant coincidence. Instant updates and the excitement of being the guinea pigs is a big draw for Nexus branded phones.
[Nexus 6  General] bodosom:
It was announce that carriers could have more control over the updates. That suggests that Google is still doing them but checking IMEI ranges or something.

And yes AT&T phones connect to Google when you do an update check.

Yeah. I don't understand why you'd buy a Nexus, particularly the N6, if you weren't planning on loading images.