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[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
I did, but it was the standard answer of " it's not on our system yet"
[Nexus 6  General] 9e705ebbf0:
They already can't do that. It's just that it's called "Not releasing the phone in the rest of the world until February or March". It's the same damn thing. The people that can wait, will wait. The people that get distracted by a different phone will move on.

But here's what happens now, which you should know if you knew anything about economics. The demand in other countries doesn't just disappear because the phone isn't launched there. Some people don't like being left out and are willing to pay way over the odds to get the phone imported from one of the many many ebay (or other) sellers that will carry it. What this does is drain stock from the launch market (further pushing back widescale deployment while also diminishing the eventual market) and it puts money into the hands of scalpers who will happily make a pretty penny off Motorola's stupidity. That money could have gone to Motorola to increase their manufacturing output and/or profitability. But no, let's give it to scalpers instead.
[Nexus 6  General] letom:
I'd be wary of stating things from an economics point of view, especially if you just made it up on the spot :o. As someone with a degree in economics what you said doesn't actually represent any economic theory, and is based on the assumption of Google changing the price of the nexus 6 to constantly capture consumer surplus (excess money) , ie this week it's 800 then it's 500 a couple weeks later, then they charge 200 in Italy because demand is lower now.

Because the above quite obviously isn't true, whether someone decides to buy the nexus 6 from eBay for double price or wait in their region for it as 600 Motorola will still see the same amount of money, simply releasing half in another country doesn't mean you make any more money because you're charging the same amount. in the fact the only person who this penalises is the Motorola Italy ceo who will have less sales because people bought it from different markets, but they all consolidate into the US company anyways so Motorola is no worse off ;)

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So you would have anticipated the same demand as previous years despite increasing the price and targeting a more niche market?

You'd be a very brave manager to float that idea to your boss seeing as it goes against fundamental economic theory and common sense!
[Nexus 6  General] 9e705ebbf0:
Get your money back.
[Nexus 6  General] Lothaen:
How did you register for Amazon N6? I couldn't find a page for it...
[Nexus 6  General] fleonard:
Here
[Nexus 6  General] mustyrash:
Nexus 6 hands on talks about the speakers, screen, build and more

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-googles-nexus-6-really-big-really-beautiful/

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 6  General] FazCapone:
Everywhere, all I see is a Midnight Blue. Is the White definitely going to be on sale the same time or is there a delay with that? Does anyone know if there was a White available for Pre-order in the US?
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
Yes, I've seen people commenting on ordering both colours.

Only a handful of people seemed l to have managed to order though.
[Nexus 6  General] barry_:
guess it's just a waiting game now?
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
Well then : http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-6-pre-orders-uk-start-soon-november-18th-ship-december-1
[Nexus 6  General] fleonard:
cit: "You'll have your choice of the three colors for the Nexus 6 — white, black, and gold." :confused::confused:
[Nexus 6  General] FazCapone:
I read this exact article before. Was just going to ask this. Surely it's an error?
[Nexus 6  General] fleonard:
I'm pretty sure the author is a bit dumb.
[Nexus 6  General] Daveoc64:
That just seems like they're making it up to me.

Why is mobiles.co.uk suddenly seen as a credible source?
[Nexus 6  General] barry_:
just wondering who everyone will be going with when the N6 lands? At the moment, I am with T mobile but have been looking at Three (mainly for their price and 4g)... does anyone have any advice or opinions on what network might be best overall?
[Nexus 6  General] mustyrash:
Well if you don't wanna get into a long contract then three do good sim only plans but they're not stocking the nexus 6.

Keep an eye out on hot UK deals for some plans.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 6  General] radicalisto:
Depending on where you live makes a huge difference also. I was with Three and had horrible signal and data speed issues so went back to O2.

It may be that O2 would be poor for you and Three great, or both could be Poor and EE (T-MO/Orange) and Vodafone might be awesome.

My advice, check their online coverage and see what plan suits your needs.

Sent from my Spectrum ZX +2
[Nexus 6  General] jayjay2244:
Im on three and it is amazing in my area, they are cheap, all you can eat data and feel at home. I personally love Three, it just depends on your areas signal.
[Nexus 6  General] RedBlueGreen:
I'm on Three and it sucks for me... but I don't want to change because its so cheap for unlimited data!
[Nexus 6  General] chistery:
I'm on Three, they aren't great round Canary Wharf area, but a good price for unlimited data, and Feel At Home is available in the countries I like to visit, so it's handy to have a data connection when I'm away and not have to pay extra. More countries are coming soon apparently too.
[Nexus 6  General] fleonard:
Same here, I'm on giffgaff at the moment and i'm planning to move to three as soon as I can get the N6.

That plan is amazing for just £15 a month
[Nexus 6  General] JCM800:
I'm on Three myself - wouldn't change. Although 4g is currently sketchy around Oxford to say the least.
[Nexus 6  General] fleonard:
Anyone in London can confirm that three is good around finsbury park zone? Looking on their website looks good enough!
[Nexus 6  General] riz157:
Note 4 bit of a let down but nexus 6 looks right up my alley, shame they removed the notification light.

Will buy directly from google play store, hopefully google will sort out stock issues by the time it hits the uk otherwise could be new year by the time it's readily available.:silly:

Which is not the end of the world as it's onlyna phone.
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
I'm on Three in the bedfordshire area and the data speeds are quite a bit higher than my friends on O2 in the same area... normally around 10+MB where as they were pulling 2-3
[Nexus 6  General] bigf00t:
I'm on 3 in Birmingham, absolutely no complaints. Love. My unlimited data, love my unlimited tethering. Somebody said 3 won't be carrying the Nexus 6? Is that confirmed? I was hoping I could keep the same contract and get the price subsidised a bit if they had it.
[Nexus 6  General] mustyrash:
http://beta.techradar.com/news/phon...le-phones/nexus-6-where-can-i-get-it--1269398

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 6  General] Lerinsol:
I think this is the main issue why we haven't heard yet of the pricing. All we know is based on rumours about the continuous pre-order delays. If I'm to speculate, Google/Motorola are having a hard time selling the N6 to European operators. In France, only one of the three big operators, Bouygues, announced that they will sell the N6 while the two others, Orange and SFR, said they won't. Maybe the price Google is going for in Europe is not worthwhile to the operators and if Google sticks to it and it's the presumed €569, I won't mind the incertitude.
[Nexus 6  General] uncle_buckman:
This a good sign for consumers? They'll have to lower the price
[Nexus 6  General] Lerinsol:
reNwsh 936

I don't get your comment. That German retailer inventory listing at €569 is better than the standard conversion at €649.
[Nexus 6  General] uncle_buckman:
Make it a lower figure than that and more companies will be interested?
[Nexus 6  General] Lerinsol:
Making it lower means that their cut will be lower. I don't know how much the operators make per phone generally. What I'm saying is that one of the reasons Google could be having difficulties signing up European operators is that they are not charging enough for the N6 to create an incentive for the operators to sell the phone compared to what they'd usually make on say a Note 4.
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
I think the answer is even more simple, these carriers don't need another flagship to sell. If the Nexus 6 becomes a phone to have they will go for it I'm sure, right now they have iPhones, Notes S5s and even Z3s to sell.
[Nexus 6  General] hutzdani:
You guys think to hard.

Its pretty glaringly obvious why there is so little info on the nexus 6 for anywhere else in the world and bugger all stock for the play store in the US.

1. Lollipop has been delayed because of bugs and had clearly been known about because review models had been out like a week before official pre orders.

2. Motorola cant make its moto x fast enought to supply those customers let alone make nexus 6 and the droid line !

3. Id hazzard a guess moto google relations have gone sour, they just singed a 10year deal to share technoligies with LG, clearly motorola could not keep up with googles plans.

4. The whole nexus thing has been a botch since they scrapped silver, its blatently a last min scramble to get the moto x enlarged and pump out devices.

All signs point to a rush in the whole development and motorola hardly have a track record for having enough devices ready after launch ( original moto x / moto 360 / new moto x)

Sure its one big headache for google and damaged their good reputation thats been gathering after the n4 and the n5 and n7's.

They have gone for a premium style this year and forgotten to tie their laces and landed facedown into a big motorola shaped puddle of mud.
[Nexus 6  General] Lerinsol:
Fine and I don't have issues with your argument. It still doesn't answer why Google is being secretive about European prices of the phone.
[Nexus 6  General] pemz82:
Maybe they are waiting to gauge the market in Europe before determining the price. If the carriers in Europe have been less forthcoming in wanting to take up the Nexus 6 then it breaks their intended selling model that they seemingly wanted to employ for this device. They may be forced to push it SIM free via the play store if carriers are not going to take a gamble on it. That may be a good thing for us price wise.
[Nexus 6  General] Lerinsol:
Yes, I agree. That was my argument.
[Nexus 6  General] bigf00t:
Anybody willing to run this little program on their computer 24/7 so we can get stock updates?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56539573&postcount=8
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
Hold up these are not Fire phones, there will never be more of these phones available than what need to exist lol
[Nexus 6  General] pemz82:
So we have a price, starting at £499 for 32GB

What do we think?
[Nexus 6  General] uncle_buckman:
I think I'll keep my nexus 4 for now
[Nexus 6  General] Goku80:
i am sticking with my 5s as much as it is getting on my nerves.....I know a lot of peeps might not find this as an issue but if Android L is actually 64bit then for the nexus 6 to be only 32 is a major let down for me and a reason why i would not buy the phone and wait till next year when a new HTC or Samsung phone rolls out
[Nexus 6  General] all43:
Really really want one!! Just gotta keep nagging the wife till I where her down:D
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_6_32GB_Midnight_Blue?id=nexus_6_blue_32gb&hl=en

"coming soon"

£499 for 32gb
[Nexus 6  General] 9e705ebbf0:
£549 for the 64 gig version. That's quite a chunk.
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
Yeah standard UK getting bent over, used to it now, already bought the lube so...
[Nexus 6  General] uncle_buckman:
It's a shame isn't it. I don't understand their business strategy.

£499 for 32GB

£549 for 64GB

I've never paid more than £440 for a laptop! Including delivery!
[Nexus 6  General] Hereisphilly:
It bloody sucks but the draw of a new nexus is too great for me to resist, I'm gonna assess my bank funds and will scrape enough together to buy it
[Nexus 6  General] Silentsoul:
well, im german and im gonna pay exactly the same as the US ppl. just that € is worth more $^^

Do we need to wait till 12. November or to 18. for preorder?
[Nexus 6  General] Rox598:
their strategy? it happens with everything here and I mean everything. we pay much more than we should and the reason for it is because we still buy them because importing fee's have become so stupid we don't really have a choice.

you see it with Gaming here the amount we pay is more than the US and when a game that is overpriced sells like crap the first 2 weeks they plummet to the price they should be,

Tbh i'm not sure on this one....I might spring for a contract if they;re decently priced but I doubt that.
[Nexus 6  General] D3VI0US:
The guys from UK .. Can you tell me the how much the shipping cost from the play store the one 3-5 business days ? or the slowest one and screenshot of any device shipping options would be perfect

Thanks in advance
[Nexus 6  General] chistery:
We don't know the shipping cost yet, though the Nexus 9 is £9.99.
[Nexus 6  General] D3VI0US:
So let's say buying the nexus 6 from play store it is 500 pound + 10 pound shipping ... the 500 is VAT inclusive right?
[Nexus 6  General] chistery:
Correct.
[Nexus 6  General] Super Chimp:
I would remind people complaining about the price that 64GB model is still £150 less than the equivalent iPhone 6+ model.
[Nexus 6  General] Lerinsol:
The page is updated in the France to coming soon. Price starting at €649.
[Nexus 6  General] fleonard:
As a friend told me, same in Italy.

I hope they are gonna update with the preorder date insted of just release it
[Nexus 6  General] Lerinsol:
All indications have been pointing towards the 12th as a proper release date.
[Nexus 6  General] fleonard:
why 12th when all the rumors are for 18th?
[Nexus 6  General] Rox598:
Might be getting mixed up with the OTA's for Lollipop rolling out on the 12th
[Nexus 6  General] Lerinsol:
NDA lifting on the 12th, reviews to follow. In the States, T-Mobile said it's the 12th. And I can't wait, OK that was not objective, but it's another waiting game anyway.
[Nexus 6  General] Rox598:
Hmmmm in that case probably US release just
[Nexus 6  General] Lerinsol:
Maybe, and maybe on the 12th they only open preorders and they start shipping in December, maybe. But since Google spends literally close to nothing on the marketing of the Nexus phones, they should use the wave of tides of buzz on the 12th to have the phone promote itself in other regions.
[Nexus 6  General] :
wow, £500 I guess no nexus 6 for me then :( well times to start saving for the nexus 7 incase
[Nexus 6  General] Daveoc64:
Not sure if anyone looked at the terms and conditions of the "Nexus 6 Google Play(™) Music Unlimited Offer" on the Play Store:

https://play.google.com/intl/ALL_uk/nexus6/promo-terms.html

It doesn't really say much about when the phone will be out, but it does say this:

So we know it's gonna be out in 2014 at least!
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Think I'll just get the 32gb model and use my meenova with 64gb memory card and save myself fifty quid
[Nexus 6  General] MalekoUK:
So so tempted for 64gb white..... Still a lot for a phone out right.
[Nexus 6  General] oddbin:
64gig Blue for me. It's a little more expensive than I would have liked but it's one of three things I'm buying so I thought why not treat myself.
[Nexus 6  General] RedBlueGreen:
Was hoping it would be £500 for the 64gb... Still buying it though!
[Nexus 6  General] uncle_buckman:
Two year shelf life, £500+... I don't know, something doesn't sit right with me.

How Apple get away with it is pretty amazing.
[Nexus 6  General] Lerinsol:
I did the OTG and flash drive combination on the Nexus 7. It was OK but it's nothing like internal storage.
[Nexus 6  General] neilka:
It actually shows up on the main Devices page now, both in the banner at the top ("Introducing Nexus 9 and Nexus 6") and next to the Nexus 5 and 9, so it feels like they're planning to open orders in the not too distant future...
[Nexus 6  General] jaimbo:
I have setup a pushbullet channel that should send a push when the Nexus 6 is available in the UK. I have not been able to test this as the device has obviously not been available yet but it should work.

This may not be instant, this may not be 100%. I will not be held responsible if you miss your order or the channel does not work as intended.

https://www.pushbullet.com/channel?tag=nexus-6-uk-stock
[Nexus 6  General] @home:
I wonder what kind of DAC they are using?

I've got ht N5 & had the N4 & both where appalling at music sound quality. I us Flac Or WAV & Poweramp.

If the N6 is just as bad I don't see any point.

Does anyone know?
[Nexus 6  General] pemz82:
Thanks for setting this up. I am also using the Web Page Monitor app which worked well in alerting me the moment the page changed earlier.
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Yeah I know I use the same combination on the Nexus 5 it's not the best solution but so far i haven't run out of internal storage yet

To be honest i only really use it to store nandroid backups and movies everything else is on internal storage

Just makes it a little cheaper for me
[Nexus 6  General] MusicArt1st:
The UK play store has been updated with the prices and is marked as coming soon. The question is, do i get one?
[Nexus 6  General] mustyrash:
They're using the Qualcomm 805's Dolby branded DAC I believe, there is not mention about a custom DAC on the nexus 6. It's probably no where near as good as apple's but much better than any previous nexus.

https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/audio

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 6  General] dannstarr:
How do you manage to set this sort of thing up?
[Nexus 6  General] riz157:
549 for 64gb more then I expected mind you note 4 is around that much.

Tempting I just like the non gimmicky software on the nexus 6 then bloated note 4 software which slows it down.

Hmmm
[Nexus 6  General] @home:
Is that the same DAC that's in the Moto X 2nd gen? Cause that sounds pretty damn good with my music set up :good:
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
According to carphone warehouse in the UK, the 32GB Note 4 is £649... Quite a bit more expensive
[Nexus 6  General] dannstarr:
You can get the note 4 from clove / handtec for less than £600
[Nexus 6  General] @home:
But they don't have any. Samsung estore does.
[Nexus 6  General] __NBH__:
I'm looking to get the nexus 6 but on contract as I can't afford to pay out hundreds upfront, I guess it will be similar tariff prices to the note 4. Although I'm still having a hard time letting go of my rooted custom ROM custom kernel driven S4, feels like a step into the unknown with lollipop.
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
£575.00. for the 32GB model .. vs £499
[Nexus 6  General] :
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_6_64_GB_Midnight_Blue?id=nexus_6_blue_64gb
[Nexus 6  General] dunjamon:
You'd think that for that price they might throw in delivery for free.

I may need to re-think my plan for this, its a lot of money.
[Nexus 6  General] dannstarr:
Im not saying I have a problem with the nexus 6 pricing... Its cheaper than I thought it would be actually. I was prepared to pay up to £650 for the 64gb. Because of the lower than expected price, i've also just treated myself to a g watch r.

I was just pointing out that you don't have to pay £630 - 650 for a note 4 in the uk

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Handtec do indeed have them in stock, for next day delivery £587

http://www.handtec.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-note-4-32gb-charcoal-black-sm-n910c-21769.html
[Nexus 6  General] @home:
My bad, since getting mine I haven't bothered checking stock availability, I don't need to :)

My apologies to you sir.
[Nexus 6  General] Masteryates:
If I could guarentee I wouldnt have some accident with the phone and it would still be mint in a years time I could possibly do the price.....

The solution would be to get a case which then adds to the other problem, the size. :eek:
[Nexus 6  General] Rochey13:
Just like Jambols earlier in the thread, I've also setup a pushbullet channel to check the uk stock - credit goes to xbossals java script that does the actual work.

The channel name is;

https://www.pushbullet.com/channel?tag=uknexus6stockcheck.

I can't promise that it will work and I don't take any responsibility if you happen to miss the pre-order.

Good luck to all and here's to getting a nexus 6 before Christmas!
[Nexus 6  General] mustyrash:
The moto x 2nd gen uses the 801, the nexus 6 uses the 805

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 6  General] NexusHexus:
so its gna cost 9.99 for delivery so 32gb is 510 quid, they should deliver for free with units over a certain value. Do you think Motorola will offer free delivery on their site, or Amazon in that instance, as i might just go along with them
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
Google Play won't give it for free, but certainly they should!

Carphone Warehouse, Amazon, Handtec etc will all be giving free delivery, no doubt.
[Nexus 6  General] pemz82:
I asked Motorola if they were planning on selling Nexus 6 from Motorola.co.uk and the support guy who answered said he expects so at some point, but had no official information about it.
[Nexus 6  General] D3VI0US:
Guys from UK .. for the pre order your card has to be loaded with the full amount of the device price to go through with your order or Google just charge your card once the device ready to ship ?

Thanks
[Nexus 6  General] Deeco7:
Anyone know if the price includes shipping cost? I'm ordering the 64GB White.

I've been a victim of the Nexus 4 and 5 limbo fiasco, but I still find myself being a sucker to still get this first lol.
[Nexus 6  General] @home:
I wonder if google will make the Icons smaller on the N6, cause they where huge on the N5. Bloody ridiculous in fact.
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
Yea that bugs me too, the reasons is because Google set the DPI artificially high at 480 even though the screen PPI is 445... i changed it to 445 in the build prop and its a lot better to me.

Some people actually go even lower.
[Nexus 6  General] Hereisphilly:
I don't think they will, the icon size on my N9 is massive too, seems to be googles standard now
[Nexus 6  General] @home:
Piss Poor then.
[Nexus 6  General] Hereisphilly:
It annoyed me at first when I got my N5 last year but now I don't mind it too much

I only have 2 launcher panes and google now running, I launch the rest of my apps from the drawer so I'm not too fussed
[Nexus 6  General] bigf00t:
They'll put your money on hold straightaway so you'll need the money in your account or your order won't go through
[Nexus 6  General] Lothaen:
Fairly sure it'll be £10 like everything else from Play store
[Nexus 6  General] chistery:
Got my Three nano SIM ready for activation once I get the Nexus 6 :D
[Nexus 6  General] RedBlueGreen:
Does it use the same as the nexus 5? Or is it the smaller one that's used in the iPhone?
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
Yea its the one the iPhone uses. Not the Nexus 5 one.
[Nexus 6  General] RedBlueGreen:
Thanks. Will order it asap :)

If I order it and the phone takes 2-3weeks to arrive will the sim still be ready to use.
[Nexus 6  General] chistery:
If you're on contract they will try and charge you. I managed to get them to send it for free. If you're on PAYG they do a trio SIM now, but not for contract customers, oddly.
[Nexus 6  General] dunjamon:
How did you manage to wrangle a free one?
[Nexus 6  General] radicalisto:
I've never been charged with Three or O2 for switching SIMs, Tell them to GTF if they try and charge you.
[Nexus 6  General] mys3:
I've ordered a diztronic case and some eBay screen protectors in anticipation. A date for release would be nice now
[Nexus 6  General] dunjamon:
Do you have a link mate? I've found one on amazon for £10, but can't seem to adjust the colour.
[Nexus 6  General] mys3:
http://www.tpu-cases.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=421

I ordered direct from them, including postage it was around £10. It's coming from the states but it's not like I'm in any rush! Unfortunately