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[Nexus 9 General] shawn1224:
Yeah I even picked up a 2nd gen Moto X to tide me over for an Android phone and it already has the lollipop update.
[Nexus 9 General] manigault:
Unfortunately, unless I'm mistaken, this isn't a solution for google play movies or music.
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
True

Has any one tryed to symlink it

from a usb drive?
[Nexus 9 General] dianestory2:
Hmm... I love new technology as much as the next person, but I'm thinking of just staying with my Nexus 7 for now...
[Nexus 9 General] Dajinn:
Google isn't going to solve a non-existent(for them) problem. The fact of the matter is they don't care if customers want expandable storage. The reason they don't include expandable storage in their devices is so they can push cloud services. So technically, they solved their own problem which you could define as "not enough users utilizing cloud services due to removable media". Sorry guy, welcome to capitalism.
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
Haha lol
[Nexus 9 General] islammanjurul:
I don't know but I feel, completely my own personal view, nexus 6 and nexus 9 will be a big fail for Google.

First of all regarding Nexus 6 - it is too big, much more than any other android devices and also than any rivals' products. Specwise it could have 4 GB ram, though not needed now, but atleast a 64-bit processor like Snapdragon 810. Okay forget spec, fine. Can you please explain why the price is that much high without any huge leap in spec or production costs? Nexus 5 cost maximum 350 USD, and this new 6 starts at $650 !!! Just to compete against rivals like Apple or whatever, Google is planning to kill its android fan bases. It is in a whole - a big controversial release from Google, maybe you don't want to sell lots of devices, but your people wants them, so please listen to them.

Regarding Nexus 9 - it misses USB Host, OTG, only 2 GB RAM instead of 3 GB LPDDR3, come one Google, it has a better SOC than what Nexus 6 has, and you put only 2 GB standard ram, storage is damn too low 32 GB maximum and no SD card slot??? I cannot enjoy many games due to shortage on space on my Nexus 7 32 GB, and Nexus 9 with pre-loaded Android 5.0 will get ART enabled by default which requires lots of space.

Google, listen to your people, not to some limited set of rich people for Nexus 6, and do the right justice to Nexus 9 by providing its minimal specs requirement.
[Nexus 9 General] IRKONIK:
As I wrote: They want to push services without local storage, which would be perfectly fine for me IF I COULD USE THEM FOR F*CKS SAKE!

As I wrote: I mostly use the tablet as a entertainment device on the go, like in the plane, WHERE YOU CAN'T ACCESS "THE CLOUD"!

Do you see what I mean? They didn't solve anything, they did not fix sh*t, they just said "Why the f*ck should we care about your problems. We are here, on the google campus, with free superfast wifi." So yes, I do agree with you on that point, but:

In a scenario like this, cloud (or any internet based) solutions are perfect. But you are not always in that situation/environment, let alone most people in the world at all! Highspeed internet is a luxury not everybody has, or will have in the future (Net Neutrality is important! Please, if you have not up until this point, do it. :)) if the lobby of those big cartels keep buying people in the FCC and other political organs.

They, Google, fixed a problem for themselves, not the grand majority. This has nothing to do with capitalism, this is, in my opinion, lazyness or a weird vision. Which is sad.

Did you use MTP in the last few years? It's HORRIBLE. If you'd make a movie called MTP, I'd sh*t myself instantly. Too much horror.
[Nexus 9 General] Kiske:
LPDDR3 is pretty much standard RAM for powerful mobile devices nowadays and i would be pretty suprised if they used any other kind.
[Nexus 9 General] a.vandelay:
is the keyboard really $200+ :D? i think i'll stick with my $10 bluetooth keyboard from amazon, thanks.
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
We need DDR5
[Nexus 9 General] je55ter:
Disappointed.

Am I the only one who thinks tablets should be on average more powerful/versatile than phones?

This thing is coming out alongside the Nexus 6, and its got:

Less RAM

Less Storage

Lower Resolution

At least the price is lower, but come on. I wanted a step up from my two-year-old Nexus 10, not a step backwards (resolution).
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
Nexus 9

16GB $399, 32GB $479, 32GB + LTE $599

Not too bad

im getting the 32GB one
[Nexus 9 General] dianestory2:
I could not agree more. How ludicrous!
[Nexus 9 General] IRKONIK:
DDR5 is not even out yet. Don't mix GDDR and DDR. It's not the same.

It would ne nice to have a bigger cache in the CPU or proper 32 Bit RAM, isntead of LPDDR.

But it won't come. I fear that the N9 will end up like the N10 - an experiment.
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
You failed to realize

the nexus 9 will have the best gpu out there as to date + 64

You wont even noticed the lower resolution because it a 8.9 not 10

how is the storage less than the n10. The n6 yes but not the n10
[Nexus 9 General] je55ter:
I did not fail to realize that. Its pretty much a given that any new device is going to have a better/faster cpu/gpu than a 2-year-old device. But what I was hoping for was a for was an across the board bump in specs.

16 GB of on board storage is pathetic for a tablet. I never said that it was less than the N10. Its actually the same as its 2 year-old predecessor and considerably less than the Nexus 6.

2 GB of RAM is the same as its 2-year-old predecessor and less than Nexus 6.

2048 x 1536 is lower resolution than both its 2-year-old predecessor and the Nexus 6. This is just inexcusable. I don't care if the screen is smaller than the N10. Its a lot larger than the the N6.
[Nexus 9 General] EnIXmA:
This thing is a beast.. Tegra k1 64 bit.. Boom sound stereo speakers... Selling my nexus 10 and getting the 32 GB for sure
[Nexus 9 General] Hashbang173:
Did Google announce these prices or are these from other sources?

Edit: Doesn't seem like Google to charge $80 for 16gb of more memory.
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
https://sites.google.com/a/pressatgoogle.com/android-10-15/nexus9
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
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[Nexus 9 General] IRKONIK:
Yes, and no. The 2.5k display was too much for the N10, and it still suffers from being a Samsung device with a really badly supported Samsung soc. But yes, it's pretty sad to see a step down in resolution. Hopefully, but doubtfully, the quality of the panel itself will be better. I have a really bad yellow tint on my N10 that gets bigger every day.

This is a joke, right? 64 bit is a scheme. It's useless at the moment, and will be for a long time. It's like the N10s extrem high resolution.

The gpu is nice, but useless, since you can only store a handful of games.

A gpu accelerated browser would be really nice to have. (I mean more workload on the gpu than today)

The N10 sucks, always has, always will, but is still a solid tablet compared to its competitors.

Tablets (8" and bigger) are just sh*t at the moment.

Did you just quote yourself?
[Nexus 9 General] Hashbang173:
Why is it on site.google.com instead of just google.com?
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
True you are right

But it is nice to know you have 64 if you need it

true it will take time for apps to start going 64

and apps to use the full potential of the gpu

but that makes the n9 future proof for an extra amount of time

And about quoting myself

My internet goofed
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
Dont know
[Nexus 9 General] IRKONIK:
If the device is as poorly produced as the shield tablet, then no. It won't be future proof, physically.

I fear that it'll take more than a 60% market saturation of 64Bit capable devices to finally see more apps for 64 bit. Just look at the pc market. 64 bit capable CPUs exist for 10(??) years (don't quote me on this one. Might be less) but there is not a lot of 64 bit capable software. Not a single browser! Only a hand few games, a few professional solutions. Windows advises you to use their 32 bit version of Office, because the 64 bit version is less stable.

Only recently M$ has pushed their 64 bit versions of Windows, mainly because most pcs have over 4GB RAM. (Even my laptop has 8. My pc soon will have 32 (talking about future proof :D))

The potential is wasted, IMHO. Google should've used the energy for USB3 ready MTP and better/faster/higher capacity memory. 256GB are not impossible, but plain "too expensive". Even 128GB is a rarity.
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
Then lets hope its prodused vary good then.
[Nexus 9 General] FrankBullitt:
Well, this was a disappointment.

16 or 32 GB without expansion is ridiculous if we consider that a tablet is a great platform for gaming and many games require several GB of aditional donwloading after installation from the playstore. Yes, Google wants to push it's cloud services, but I was planning on buying a 32GB only if it had an SD slot or a 64GB if no expansion was possible.

The 64bit CPU and quadzillion gPU cores are nice, but when the time arrives for them to really be used by the first apps designed for the 64bit arch, the rest of the components will drag it down, just like when you build your own desktop and start by buying an amazing CPU. Then you find the cheapest MB for that CPU, 4 GB of RAM, a 85$ Graphics card and a 7200rpm HD.

Yes, the CPU is blazing fast, but the machine is not well balanced and it the CPU will not be fully explored.

2 GB of RAM and 16/32GB of non-expandable memory will become a joke in a future of 64bit apps which require more memory space (addressing at it's best) running on a runtime env that requires more space (that's ART at it's best).

Honestly, right now I saw that the Z3 Compact Tablet is available for pre-order and the 32GB+SDCard with 3GB of RAM is priced at 429€. And it offers the folio cover if I buy it until the 3rd of November. Yes, it won't have lollipop (probably until January or something like that), but I'll have it on my Nexus4 (which won't be replaced by this huge, expensive N6 phablet) and I won't feel the need to be messing around with the tablet flashing experimental "L" roms for sure.

The Z3 Compact Tablet, even if it's a bit smaller in screen size (8.9 to 8.0 is not that huge of a gap), is probably a much more balanced offer than this N9.

And to think I waited so many months for the "google tablet" that was supposed to be the cream of the crop.... big time disappointment and I'll think twice or thrice before deciding which tablet I'll buy now.
[Nexus 9 General] wifesabitch:
How on earth is the Shield Tablet an extreme failure? It's a great device and a great price. Only reason I'm ditching it is because I prefer a 4:3 screen.
[Nexus 9 General] Hashbang173:
Maybe that;'s not going to be the actual price? Well we'll find out Friday.
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
Yep
[Nexus 9 General] aamir123:
Not a failure in its design so much as its launch. It has mutiple widespread problems including wifi and cracked casings. Other problems exist that are software related as well, and Nvidia has so far proven to be poor at software production and opitimization. Shield tablet also has bad battery life for a tablet (5 hours of android gaming). If this release was flawless without hw and software issues the shield tablet wouldve been the best tablet in the market right now.
[Nexus 9 General] wifesabitch:
I don't know about that. You could find "issues" with every device ever released.

Mine had cracks in the corners but no wifi problems, software was as good as my Nexus 5 as far as I'm concerned. I RMAed for the cracks and they were great. Sent the replacement first and provided return postage. Not too many companies do that from my experience.

Tough choice for me giving it up, losing mircoSD slot and the stylus hurts but I've been looking for a solid 4:3 tablet for ages.
[Nexus 9 General] jd1639:
Guys, I'm in. Will be pre-ordering on Fri
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
same there
[Nexus 9 General] MRobbo80:
Me to!, Stupid question what is the advantage of the pre-order system? 3rd November will this be in some of the major shops that day. And also will Google play store still have free delivery?
[Nexus 9 General] jd1639:
No idea what the advantage is. But I get to do something sooner :). I would guess delivery would be on Nov 3 anyway. Not sure about free shipping. We'll see on Fri
[Nexus 9 General] Goku80:
John Lewis i know for a fact will be stocking it;)
[Nexus 9 General] MRobbo80:
:fingers-crossed:

Is this inside information ;) or is it a hunch ?

Last year brought my nexus 7 2nd gen from Argos
[Nexus 9 General] Goku80:
Nexus 9 is here

Cnet.com.
[Nexus 9 General] meringo:
I'm on the fence.... I sold my Tab S 8.4 yesterday planning on getting the N9. BUT

The prices are ridiculous... Think about it: Apple is rumored to have 32gb of storage on the base unit now, 2gb of ram, and an improved screen... lets not forget the wonderful build quality for just $20 more.

Other than running Android 5, in what way is this tablet better than an iPad Air 2? The speakers? If they are nearly the same cost, they are going to have a hard time selling this to anyone but Android loyalists. Anyone on the fence will likely go iPad or an older tablet like the Tab S, N7 or G Tab.

They should have priced it:

349 for 16gb

399 for 32gb

450-479 for 32gb + LTE

Good luck selling these to the masses....
[Nexus 9 General] rockpapercannon:
I'm a massive fan of the Nexus devices, and currently own the Nexus 5 and Nexus 10, and recently sold my Nexus 7 (2012). I've been watching the Nexus 9 rumours closely, but now that the cat is out the bag I'm still undecided.

Three things put me off: 1) the 4:3 aspect ratio; 2) the weight; and 3) the 2GB RAM.

I actually prefer the 4:3 aspect ratio, especially when coupled with the keyboard attachment (way more vertical real estate in landscape mode). But I have a feeling the N9 will become somewhat of a niche market for Nexus fanboys like the N10 was, and that doesn't encourage app developers to support the 4:3 aspect ratio. As far as I'm aware, no "mainstream" Android tablet makers have tried the 4:3 aspect ratio yet, so this is really untested territory.

At 425g, the N9 is way lighter than the N10 (603g) and reasonably lighter than the 10" iPad Air (478g). But compared to other similarly sized Android options like the Sony Z3 Compact (270g) and the Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 (298g), the N9 is a bit of a beast.

Finally, 2GB RAM is what my two year old N10 has, and opening multiple browser tabs maxes this out way too fast. Bit disappointed to see no real improvement in this department.
[Nexus 9 General] MRobbo80:
It will be available in 16GB, 32GB and 32GB LTE models, with UK pre-orders opening from October 17. Costing $399 (around £250) for the 32GB version the Nexus 9 will go on sale at various UK retail outlets and operators including Currys, PC World, John Lewis, Argos, Amazon.co.uk, Three and O2, on November 3
[Nexus 9 General] stangy:
Hate to say it but I think I'm getting this:

http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-s84-sm-t700-wifi-16gb-titanium-bronze-263524/

At $359 with a MUCH better screen and better ratio I don't think I can do any better right now. I just wish I could get stock android on it!
[Nexus 9 General] MRobbo80:
Wait

Lag monster old cpu going the wrong way!!!!
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
If you want good developer support don't go Samsung

I learned the hard way with my note 3
[Nexus 9 General] stangy:
I know I know.. But I need to replace my Nexus 7 2012... What else is in the pipeline in the next couple of months??
[Nexus 9 General] MRobbo80:
Same issue here my freind poor develpment.

Btw does the tab s have knox?
[Nexus 9 General] aamir123:
If you can wait then it might be worthwhile to wait for the Moto/Lenovo tablet that was hinted at by Lenovo themselves. I'm assuming those will be stock android as well similar to the moto x and moto g.
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
Huh here where

nexus devices get good Dev support
[Nexus 9 General] stangy:
Yes
[Nexus 9 General] MRobbo80:
I take it you watch a hell of alot of films right? Is that why your upset 16:9 is yes better for films agree, but 4:3 is alot better alround. Do the right thing DONT BUY TAB S. You will thank me for it trust me!

---------- Post added at 01:21 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:15 AM ----------

Sorry very sleepy, I had a Samsung galaxy note 3 for a while. Loved the phone! But with knox and not as healthy development as this new nexus device would be, I decided to return it for a refund and be patient!
[Nexus 9 General] stangy:
Yea mostly movies and games. I prefer it for the web as well.

I could probably live with the ratio if the screen came close to the tab s. Other then then K1 this is a middle of the road tablet.
[Nexus 9 General] meringo:
Dell

The Dell Venue 8 7000 - Dell's first really awesome looking Android tablet.
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
that Tab looks odd
[Nexus 9 General] MRobbo80:
Okay can see what you are saying.

Yes the screen is very nice on tab s! Rich vibrant and some deep blacks !

And yes an Sd card

Nexus has 5.0 out of the box and will be updates for a few years

And will have a very very strong dev area etc boom sound speakers better battey in the 8 inch version, also a 64 bit soc.

Already the tabs s has a younger brother the (tab s slate)

Each are there own good luck!

Hope you make the right choice
[Nexus 9 General] meringo:
Nope.

I just SOLD my Tab S. Not worth it right now. The CPU holds it back... If you are strictly watching movies, go for it... but you are better off waiting a bit longer. either for a Nexus price drop (which I expect... can't be Apple priced for long) or one of the other tabs coming out before the holidays.

The finger print sensor didn't work very well, cpu was sluggish, capacitive buttons were easily hit unintentionally, and it is won't have Android L anytime soon...
[Nexus 9 General] stangy:
Good points. I'm going to wait for the reviews on this and then make a decision. I would love some Andriod L!
[Nexus 9 General] anathema_forever:
Now I am leaning towards buyers remorse and kind of just want to buy a previous gen tablet used and be happy with that and be able to upgrade sooner with less guilt rather than buy a New tablet. I kind dont like and will regret as soon as something else comes out that fixes the few issues with this one.
[Nexus 9 General] kamranhaghighi:
im going to buy nexus 6, i never had a tablet before, but i was thinking, if i buy this instead i can do gaming ! + i can play heartstone on it, becasue im not sure if heartstone will be avialble on phone, becasue, well, how on earth you want to play HS on a 5inch screen :D
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
Then get the n9 and play HS on a 9 inch screen
[Nexus 9 General] kamranhaghighi:
just googled and saw end turn is swipe left and to see cards i can swipe up

having tablet is hard because i can't bring it with myself everywhere + no phone to call with :D !!!

i can keep my n4 and buy a tablet, and share my nexus 4 net with my tablet ! or somehow fix my fathers hd2 broken touch screen :(

but on the other hand , browsing and typing and working with tablet is so awesome :D
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
O didn't realized you had an N4

then so get the n6

it's best to stay in what you know than go to what you don't know

But if your happy with your n4 then get the n9
[Nexus 9 General] kamranhaghighi:
ok, thanks USBhost :D

but still, i will give tablet a try (just try it on store or something !!! :D)

i hope nexus 6 has OTG, thats extremely important for me :)
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
Im sure it will

Also recheck my last post
[Nexus 9 General] rdelfin:
Remember that Nexus devices are first and foremost intended to showcase the potential for each new release of the Android system and as such, it has to offer everything the developer community might require to do their thing. OTG then is virtually a necessity and you can rest assured that every new nexus device is very likely to support it, otherwise it wouldn't make sense to have a device for developers that doesn't allow OTG connections.
[Nexus 9 General] zeroafro:
Early Nexus 9 hands-on! :laugh::good:

http://sforum.vn/2014/10/tren-tay-nexus-9-tai-viet-nam-vien-kim-loai-cung-cap-man-hinh-dep-android-5-0-lollipop/

[YOUTUBE]wo1XD32zT1I[/YOUTUBE]
[Nexus 9 General] Dr0idG00di3:
In the Video, the Test Pictures looks bad. And the Price is to high, like the N6, that is no more the Nexus Thing like before, Nexus was favorable and good, but the new Devices have very high Prices.
[Nexus 9 General] kamranhaghighi:
:eek: awesome !
[Nexus 9 General] IRKONIK:
Dammit again, I knew I should've taken Vietnamese instead of French. I can't understand a word, and there are no subtitles. Any nice Vietnamese here who's willing to make a tl;du?

Cheers!
[Nexus 9 General] waterman50:
Great news :D
[Nexus 9 General] deeevan:
I went from an iPad to Nexus 7, and have been waiting for this to replace the missing iPad. I missed the screen width for watching videos, but the lightness made up for it and I've forgotten the bigger screen. However I just remembered the one use case to justify this purchase... Photo editing. I love Snapseed. Need the bigger 4:3 x screen for that :D
[Nexus 9 General] WisdomWolf:
All the ranting about the lack of expandable storage is silly, as far as I can recall, there has never been a Nexus device with removable media. What upsets me is that the Nexus 6 has a 64GB option, but the new tablet doesn't? Solid state drives and flash memory in general are cheap at the moment, so not having at least a 64GB option is silly. Having said that, I'll likely still be pre-ordering it tomorrow because HTC + lollipop + 64-bit = winning.
[Nexus 9 General] Atlante2004:
too $$$

It is too expesive !!!!

Not for me.
[Nexus 9 General] IRKONIK:
Oh god. There are places on the internet that would now call you something along the line of new-bundle-of-sticks, you know that, right?

Go read about the Nexus One.

Edit: Even "worse": Join Date: '06 - Nexus One: '10
[Nexus 9 General] Hereisphilly:
New hands on video is out, man look at the speed of those animations!

Coming from an N10, this thing looks like its going to perform ridiculously well!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKUn31YkOU4
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
only if it was english
[Nexus 9 General] FrankBullitt:
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Well, F* it. You had to post that and ruin all my reasoning, didn't you? :p

I really like the sony z3 compact, but the screen size of this N9 is absolutely perfect for someone like me who has an old iPad2 (which I'm eager to get rid of) but didn't want to buy a Samsung or a N7 because all 7'' tablets are small for productivity.

I want my tablet to work as a small laptop...

So yeah, I guess tomorrow I'll be pre-ordering this, the folio with the keyboard and I'll start looking at some USB OTG pens to carry on my work flights and long travels.

F* you google for completely destroying any reasoning behind making me buy a tablet because it's perfectly balanced. :o
[Nexus 9 General] USBhost:
so you're getting it now
[Nexus 9 General] Hereisphilly:
No problem :D

I so cant wait for this to drop!

I hope both the folio case and that smartcover thing in the video are both available, they looks sweet!
[Nexus 9 General] FrankBullitt:
Yeah, but I still believe this won't be as "durable" performance wise as my N4 has been.

For the price I still think a 64GB would have been a fair offer from HTC/Google. And the 2gb of ram still scare me because of the addressing space the 64bit apps will need as soon as devs start making them.

But yeah, I use Google Play Music and Plex for my daily Multimedia, so a USB OTG pen will work well for those times where I don't have wifi (plain, train, etc).
[Nexus 9 General] Hereisphilly:
If you've got plexpass, you can use plex sync which creates local copies of your media for those exact situations. Not sure if you can use it with an OTG pen tho, which would be great if you could!
[Nexus 9 General] ritchea:
Coming from an N7 Flo, this looks great. HTC even got the hardware buttons right. This will be my 6th Nexus, but I'm not jumping on it. If all is well with the early adopters, I'll probably get it in 3-4 months.

Thanks for the video.