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[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
I read that as well, but not confirmed by Google yet.

Your best bet would be to buy the phone from T-Mobile and pay the $27 monthly for 24 months if you do not want to spend the money up front. It would be the same as if you signed a contract, and paid a higher bill for the subsidy, only it ends at 24 months instead of being permanent.
[Nexus 6  General] Pilz:
That sucks, I thought they all started at the same time.
[Nexus 6  General] Jeimygirl:
I can pay for it up front, the cost itself whether over 2 years or now is just a bummer when other carriers will have them subsidized.

In the past I would keep my same monthly cost (grandfathered) and pay $0-$200 max for a brand new phone with a contract renewal. That's why i liked the price of the Nexus, it was as if I got a discount for signing a new contract. i don't mind contracts on my phone company at all.

No one can beat a $150 bill a month for 5 lines unlimited everything, so it hasn't been a reason to switch.
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
I still don't understand your complaint. Signing a new contract would mean you lose that grandfathered plan. You are better off in the current system with that plan.
[Nexus 6  General] Jeimygirl:
You can't sign contracts with T-Mobile anymore, they don't do contracts at all. I never lost my grandfathered plan when I renewed my contracts. So I kept my $150 a month but got the latest phone for free or max $200 total. I was just saying that I would love if T-Mobile would have kept that, it would help with the cost of this phone.
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
You seem confused on what you are arguing. I know T-Mobile doesn't do contracts anymore. That is the point of all of this. Its hypothetical because your argument is not making sense.

If they did do contract today, I guarantee you would not be able to keep your grandfather plan when signing a new one. So you would pay more in the long run then just paying a 24 month payment, or buying the phone outright.
[Nexus 6  General] Jeimygirl:
No, I know exactly what I'm saying. In the past when I signed contracts every 2 years, my plan didn't change even a single dollar, often times it went down because they would have some promotion going on. I've had T-Mobile for 10 years. I've kept my old grandfathered plans from many many years ago. I renewed contracts up until the completely went away from it about a year ago.

A few years ago they started to allow the payment plans on phones, but you had to pay full price if you had certain "new" plans.

Meanwhile I renewed my contract, paid $0-$200 up front, nothing monthly for the phone, same bill every month. Last time I did this I got 3 Galaxy S2's for $0, no "payment plan", my monthly cost stayed the same, meanwhile others paid $20 or so a month for the same phone on the new non contract plans on top of their regular phone bill for the full cost of the phone.

So what I was saying is that It would have been awesome if T-Mobile still did contracts for those that wanted it, so that i could get the N6 for no more than $200 total and I would still keep my $150 a month.
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
Your still hinging out what they did in the past. They would not be doing that anymore because they would lose money on that whole deal. That's probably why they were almost bought by AT&T years ago. I guarantee if they still did contracts, you would not be keeping that $150 per month plan. The market would not allow them to do that these days.
[Nexus 6  General] Jeimygirl:
Maybe, maybe not. I renewed 2 of my contracts for 2 brand new free phones just short of a year ago before they got rid of contracts and they didn't change it, and the market was the same, still have my same plan for 5+ years ago. They let their grandfathered customers renew contracts for years while new customers had to get their new plans that have no subsidized phones and a monthly plan for the phone. But then they started this whole "uncarrier" thing and even old customers can't renew contracts anymore.

Either way, $649 is just too much for me, not for the phone itself. I was really hoping for another cheap Nexus.
[Nexus 6  General] mb3030:
I have the $30/5gb plan - the nexus 5 apparently takes a different sized sim card than what the nexus 6 will use. Does anyone have any experience with this process? Do i just go online and order a new sim card to associate with my account? When i tried to get a sim in the store orginally they wouldnt sell it to me. thanks for the advice
[Nexus 6  General] f1ip:
you can just order a sim from here http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/sim-card?AID=10417882&PID=361116&SID=

Sometimes they sell it for $.01, 2 weeks ago they did, or sometimes its FREE. Right now it's 99cents.

When you get the SIM, you can activate it online, or call 611 to have them activate it over the phone.
[Nexus 6  General] mb3030:
I just checked that site and ordered one for .99. I assumed that it would be pretty straight forward, but I just wanted to make sure. I've only had T-mobile since the nexus 4 and the nexus 5 shared the same sim size. Previously on verizon they would just send you a sim with everything already associated to your account. This is the first time i'll need to change sim size and i want to make sure nothing gets messed up with my plan. Thanks for the reply
[Nexus 6  General] f1ip:
here's the SIM update site. http://www.t-mobile.com/SIM
[Nexus 6  General] TiltedAz:
For the most part, subsidized phones will be a thing of the past. It was a bad idea that lined the phone manufacturer pockets while the carriers attempted to get reimbursed with contracts and data plans. Smartphones are getting better and better and are quickly turning into a commodity. Increased competition will drive smartphone prices down over time.
[Nexus 6  General] Jeimygirl:
I've never had an issue calling T-Mobile and asking them for a new sim card. Had to do it for the N5 as it was my first phone with a smaller SIM. They just mailed it out no questions asked no cost.

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Yeah, true. Oh well, moving forward.

Now, to pay for the N6 or to wait... N5 still works great, hmmm
[Nexus 6  General] KennyMB:
I really am considering this over the Note 4, but I need wifi calling at my house. Maybe I'll jump from the Note 4 to the N6 when the update comes. I'm ready for a new phone, and this would be my first Nexus device.
[Nexus 6  General] 7TimesCursed:
Idk if they still have the G Flex in tmo stores, but I suggest you go to try one in hand. Its the closest device in terms of size to the n6 except its 2mm thinner. Its massive..
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
They do. But a better example would be the iP6+ since they are nearly the same size as eachother.
[Nexus 6  General] webs50:
Nexus 6 on Motorola website

It looks like the nexus 6 will be available through the Motorola website and you can use there interest free financing.
[Nexus 6  General] chrootz:
Thanks for the info. I might take interest free financing and purchase the nexus 6. :good:
[Nexus 6  General] Jfree3000:
I just thought about this, will t-mobile restrict nfc/Google wallet on this phone? I don't like isis and I don't want it.
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
No, T-Mobile won't be touching it...
[Nexus 6  General] Jfree3000:
I hope not, if they do I'm out.
[Nexus 6  General] PhantomGamers:
Do you guys know if I take my micro SIM card into a T-Mobile store if they will be able to cut it down to a nano? If so, would there be a charge for that?

My friend said they would but I just wanted to make sure this is a thing. Otherwise I have a nano sim I can activate but it's probably buried somewhere.
[Nexus 6  General] 7TimesCursed:
Its pretty close too but the iPhone is noticeably narrower than the n6 and g flex.

The n6 and flex are within a millimeter of each other in every dimension except thickness.
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
It seems to be quite comparable in size to the Note 4 in size too.

Actually went to a T-Mobile today and they let me size hold a few large screened devices they had (GFlex/Note4/iP6+) and I have to say its not as problematic as people are claiming it is to hold in one hand. I was actually pretty excited to know that the Nexus 6 will be no compromise to me or my hands!

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The Nexus4 and Nexus5 have been sold through T-Mobile around the time they were pushing for the ISIS NFC payment system. That said T-Mobile knows and understands that they cannot and will not enforce any changes to hinder the Nexus Experience since they have a close bond with Google regarding the release of these devices.

The fact that T-Mobile is working with Google Engineers to get their Wi-Fi Calling working on their terms. Which means they are asking Google for help on making it work without having T-Mobile underhandedly enforcing/changing policies on the Nexus. Sure enough T-Mobile will likely be selling the device unlocked as well since they never done anything to poison their stock of Nexus devices.

As odd as it may sound, T-Mobile is the "Bro" of the US carriers. They do not **** on anyone's freedom when it comes to these kind of things. The other 3 I cannot say too much for, but if you are getting a Nexus through T-Mobile you are as safe as you are picking it up through Google Play.
[Nexus 6  General] Joshnor713:
Does anyone know if the Play Store version has all the bands T-Mo uses?? I don't care to get a N6 from T-Mo directly.
[Nexus 6  General] kimtyson:
Yes, it does. One US model for all US carriers.
[Nexus 6  General] Joshnor713:
Sweet, that's freaking great. And when you order from the Play Store, do you have choose between US or World version, or does it actually choose based on where you're ordering from? Want to make sure I don't make any mistakes on pre-order day :)
[Nexus 6  General] falcon26:
When does the pre order for the N6 go live for T-Mobile?
[Nexus 6  General] Master Ramy:
Rumors point to Oct 28, both storage sizes and both colors to be available online at launch.
[Nexus 6  General] jcarlm:
I will wait till they have them in the T-mobile stores. I hope its not too longer after launch. Any one have a clue on when they will be in the store?
[Nexus 6  General] Master Ramy:
Nov12, but 64gb will be online exclusive
[Nexus 6  General] jcarlm:
Both colors available in the store for for the 32?
[Nexus 6  General] Master Ramy:
So far it seems that way yes. The only one I see says online is 64, based on leaked documents and senior exec of tmo's words
[Nexus 6  General] jcarlm:
I would like to get the 64 but buying online is a hassle with T-Mobile. Cause if you need to do a return or anything of that nature you have to do it online or over the phone then wait for delivery then ship the product and etc.. Versus buying the product in the store and just going to the store for warranty, exchange and etc..
[Nexus 6  General] 20degrees:
Until you get a faulty one in store and the employees don't wanna exchange it. I've always ordered over the phone in the past. I did the G3 in the store for the first time and had a horrible experience. Will only do online or over the phone from now on.

G3
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
Actually most of the time anymore when it comes to Warranty exchanges we would have to do the shipping/mail option by default since depending on the stock at the current location T-Mobile would not be able to do a live exchange either due to lack of stock for exchange or because of priority to sell the stock over in store warranty replacement (Think first few weeks of device release).

In all my time working there I have only seen one instance of someone being able to warranty exchange in store. 98% of the time we just get their address and ship them out a replacement unit and have them ship it back within a few days after the device is delivered. (Usually shipping the devices to house take on average 1-2 days since Priority shipping is used).
[Nexus 6  General] jcarlm:
I have had trouble with T-Mobile stores myself as well. But the thing is there are about 5 to 6 T-Mobiles stores not far from me. So when the first store gave me trouble I just went to a different store and they did the exchange. I had to exchange my Nexus 5 3 times before getting a good screen, I would have hated to do 3 exchanges online/shipping.
[Nexus 6  General] 20degrees:
There's only one here. ?

Either way - good luck. Hopefully we're both enjoying one soon. ?

I can't wait.

G3
[Nexus 6  General] frigidazzi:
Besides band 12 does this have any tmobile freq that the nexus 5 doesn't? There's not any as far as I can tell. I want to try tmobile again, but so spotty in some areas. I don't care about at home since I just use wifi hangouts. But everywhere else it's very hit and miss.
[Nexus 6  General] f1ip:
Tmobile uses LTE bands 2/4/12

Here's all the Bands the devices use for the US devices.

Nexus 6

GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz

CDMA Band Class: 0/1/10

WCDMA Bands: 1/2/4/5/8

LTE Bands: 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/25/26/29/41

Nexus 5

GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10

WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19

LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41

I have Tmobile myself, my signal at home kinda sucks with the Nexus 5.

Im at the edge of 2 towers, on the east, only has 3G, on the West, it has LTE so the phone will sometimes switch between 1bar of LTE to 1bar of 3G while inside

Now that I have the booster, i can get a whopping 2 bars of LTE from the Window Unit, to full bars inside the room.
[Nexus 6  General] frigidazzi:
Thanks!
[Nexus 6  General] doubleatheman:
So will metropcs Customers ever benefit from all of this?
[Nexus 6  General] mk92595:
Isn't Metro owned by T-mo now and uses their towers?
[Nexus 6  General] arcanexvi:
LG isn't known for making the best radio hardware. Other than the band support, historically moto has some of the strongest most reliable radio hardware on the market. I'm very excited for Moto to be returning to T-Mobile.
[Nexus 6  General] Master Ramy:
Sure! Buy an unlocked Nexus 6 and we(I work for metro) can activate it! Or buy a T-Mobile one and those can automatically work with us too! You can finance it with Motorola as well if u prefer not to pay in full
[Nexus 6  General] Bataga:
Hope this applies
[Nexus 6  General] joshua.justice:
It's only standard shipping nothing super fast.
[Nexus 6  General] brian117:
Does anybody know a method to buying the phone at full retail price, off contract, from tmobile.com? I'm not looking to make payments. I'd rather pay the full $700 off contract and just pop in a nano SIM card using my $30 unlimited text/data 100 minute plan. Seems to me that you have to select a new plan when wanting to purchase a phone off tmobile.com. Has it always been like that? Looks like I will just have to order it through Google then.
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
I don't think it will let you. Ordering off the T-Mobile site is a pain.

I plan to order it from Google ply, and just go into a T-Mobile store to get a new SIM.
[Nexus 6  General] brian117:
So I've noticed! I'm just a bit skeptical on the whole "buying from T-Mobile will give you a T-Mobile branded phone with future T-Mobile updates". It's obvious all the Nexus 6 phones are the same model released to every carrier, but something about ordering straight from T-Mobile makes my purchase feel safer. Paranoia ftw!
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
Is motorola selling it? I'd lean towards the vendor that offers the 1st screen replacement free. Google somewhat did that with the nexus 5, motorola offers it but not sure if they are going to be selling it from their store.
[Nexus 6  General] jcarlm:
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[Nexus 6  General] shook187:
Does anyone know for sure if preorders will be available at the T-Mobile site tomorrow?
[Nexus 6  General] 20degrees:
Des said no preorders. Just available on the 12th. Was posted in another thread.

G3
[Nexus 6  General] PhantomGamers:
From what I've read they don't actually replace the screen for free, at least not anymore. Do you have information that says otherwise? Because if that was a perk I'd 100% buy it from Motorola's site.
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
YOu're right, looks like they ended that program back in July. Doh!
[Nexus 6  General] Jeimygirl:
On the Nexus 9 pre-order page on Google it shows a two year plan. Anyone use this before? Could be a perk with buying on Amazon:

2-Year Drops & Spills Warranty for $66.29

100% Parts and Labor Coverage PLUS Accidental Damage

5 Day Repair Guarantee on Depot Service

Repair or Replacement Promise on Every Product

Contract shipped via email so there is no waiting

Repair Plans are Fully Transferable at No Cost
[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aqua9teen1:
Hi XSP user,

I've been wondering, some cm11 rom come with apollo and dsp manager as it default audio player and audio enhancement. So my question is, can I freeze both these apk using titanium backup and replace it with power amp and viper4android? Would this changes make the rom unstable? Your opinion please.
[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TechnoSparks:
I don't see that this could make the ROM unstable. Just go with it! :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thugs.lif3:
Motorola MB632 PRO PLUS wont Start up

it was working fine for 2 3 months but suddenly display gone white touch gone un reponsive. and after that when I tried to open my cellphone no response only white light indicates sometime when I push the power button . DOnt know what to do to make it work, however i am also unable to connect it with PC , PC does not show any device when I connect it to the PC .

IMEI : 356472040670938

Model : Motorola MB632 PRO PLUS
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thugs.lif3:
Any one

Any one ?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] es0tericcha0s:
Seems like it's a thing, unfortunately...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44363425&postcount=341

Might try to revert to a previous update...? There's info on that thread on how to boot to the various modes.

Oh, and your IMEI is not relevant whatsoever, and would be wise to remove. Unscrupulous characters could use that IMEI for other things and possibly affect your ability to connect to your carrier. Not likely, but not something you want to take a chance on either.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Rudjgaard:
The feared day has come. Last night my phone lost all usb connectivity and wouldn't charge anymore.

So it's time to depart, i will be spending the night choosing between the z1 compact and the m7 and by tomorrow I'll be off to my new thread.

I would like to thank those who followed me in my (scarce) projects and those who helped me realize them.
[MENTION=4716493]laufersteppenwolf[/MENTION] @Adam77Root [MENTION=1149134]Demetris[/MENTION] [MENTION=3443693]iodak[/MENTION] [MENTION=3506654]Flying_Bear[/MENTION] [MENTION=5301610]ectoplasma22[/MENTION] thank you for your work and

making this a greatly respectable thread.

I'm starting to tear now, I really wish I didn't have to leave,

I even considered repairing the phone but the battery life had gotten just too frustrating

I leave behind me a small but necessary fix for the proximity sensor so I can retire happily

Thank you again guys, see you around!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Flying_Bear:
;'( manly tear was shed

Thank you for taking your time to fix the proximity sensor issue, and thank you for being an extremely benefitial and helpful member of the community; people like you are the reason why I'm coming back here regularly. I wish you luck with your future device(s), and hopefully we'll meet eachother on the forum again on a next-gen flagship thread.

Take care.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] iodak:
See you. Good luck!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dimi89:
Well this is kinda end of a road for me too since i got mine S3 Neo GT I9301I couple days ago and give LG to my sister :) You wanted to thank all the guys on this thread and forum for helping and making this phone awesome :highfive: [MENTION=4719724]Adam77Root[/MENTION] [MENTION=4716493]laufersteppenwolf[/MENTION] [MENTION=3443693]iodak[/MENTION] [MENTION=1149134]Demetris[/MENTION] and all other people who helped developing roms for LG 4x deserve speacial thanks.Will from time to time come here and scoope what are you guys cooking here :D
[LG Optimus 4X HD] ottomanhero:
What a coincidence

I am also leaving

I'm going to swap my phone for a Z2 .Mainly because of limiting hardware 4x HD got.The camera is horrible in dark, battery life (you already know it), I got dust under screen once again 1 week after getting it cleaned and it lets me down in daily usage.

I've had my arguements with people in here,I've made friends but in the end it was all for the good of our phone. Farewell 4x HD community

My legacy for this community are my projects (in signature).They shouldn't need any updating, if they ever do I'll do so and provide support where possible.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] SuperLamic:
well, I understand you, but I think there is no phone with good price and good specs, I would prefer something like a new Elephone P7000 (metal cover + 3GB ram + manufacter custom rom support and full hd insted of nonsense 2K) but with MTK6795 instead of MTK6752 which is on-board... (it's not a bad cpu, but I want to have my next phone again about 3 years, so I always buy something a bit better than mid-end)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] zohaer21:
nooooooooooooooooo

there is really no use of this topic... except to vent (no abusive words)

go ahead and vent !!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] darkjedi:
It's a hacked ROM, and not a lot of things work, but yeah...it IS frustrating.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] abubasim:
WM6 on Prophet? Is that a big deal? Even if you're "only" running WM5 on your Hermes, your phone is still better. I used to own an i-mate JAMin and I find my new JASJAM a nice upgrade.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
we cant even flash cooked roms yet on the hermes.. so just be patient, as soon as we master that i am sure that a WM6 version will surface ;)
[Android General] Death-xvoi:
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[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ragnarokx:
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-add-wi-fi-calling-support-its-nexus-6-model-early-2015

Will this be exclusive to the Nexus 6? If it is, surely it will be possible to port it to the Nexus 5?

Here's to hoping we get this included in our 5.0 update.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lucke:
my first thought, which is nothing more than a guess, is that this will be hardware based on the N6 and "unlocked" with a T-Mo OTA and will not be able to be ported to the N5.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bicho6:
considering Tmobile is making this feature available in early 2015 with an OTA I think you are right in guess that this will be something Tmobile bakes into the OS and not functionality native in Android L

Edit: Unless Google has a planned update for L in early 2015 that Tmobile knows about (I highly doubt it)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david279:
Improved network handoffs resulting in limited interruption in connectivity. For example, continue your video chat or VoIP calls without interruption as you leave the house and switch from your home Wi-Fi back to cellular

thats from here https://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/

I think wifi calling and voLTE are going to be baked into 5.0 no matter the carrier
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j'vai:
that's my suspicion as well..

google may bake hangouts code (or the hangouts dialer code) into the native dialer, making them one & the same -

http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-5/436152-nexus-5-likely-see-wi-fi-calling-over-t-mobile-soon-4.html#post3918556
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lucke:
but that doesn't necessarily mean that t-mobiles wi-fi calling feature, or VoLTE compatibility is baked into 5.0. VoLTE is too new to test fully, and while that may work, you can't use VoLTE on wi-fi. the features you're talking about is the issue of dropping signal for that split second when you leave your house (the time where wi-fi drops off and cell doesn't re-establish itself instantly) for the purpose of hangouts (voice or video).

i still think that since the N5 isn't compatible with t-mo's wi-fi calling, it's not just a software thing.