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[Nexus 6  General] kevinlevrone:
Not sure what "low-midrange" has to do with a $650 price that we are talking about here. Qualcomm confirmed that the first devices with 810 will come in H1 next year. The 810 does not only bring 64-bit, but also many other enhancements including 30% faster graphics and lower power consumption. It doesn't have anything to do with addressable memory size, Android is (still) much less demanding than, say, Windows. So a shiny new Nexus 6 will only be current for 6 months. For example, devices with Snapdragon 800 had a much longer lifespan of about 1.5 years, because the 801 did not bring significant improvements. You have to watch out for major chip releases.
[Nexus 6  General] GamaX320:
Price and Size, because the size really look a bit big for me, I more prefer 5.0~5.5 screen size
[Nexus 6  General] LNJ:
I actually like the size. My brother has the Zenfone 6 and I've always though the screen real-estate was awesome. But the price is a killer for a phone with very little marketing budget!

Everything about the Nexus is low key and it corresponds with the price. But this time it looks like they are directly going after the big guys for profits!

HTC One M8
[Nexus 6  General] gianton:
Price for me... I thought that would be somewhere at the $450-$500 range. It looks great though but I will probably skip it and go for the 64 bit devices.
[Nexus 6  General] DaRkRaGe:
Im just saying there's no hurry. A brand new nexus 6 will serve you great for the next 1-2 year(s). About the 64bit Architecture believe me when i say that the users will not see any big performance changes in every day usage. Apps are already fast enough and with the addition of ART everything should be in order for the next years no matter the SoC
[Nexus 6  General] Bataga:
Well if I had to choose, I'd say the price since I was hoping it would be $645. Other than that, I can't wait to get this phone!
[Nexus 6  General] aawshads:
I have been waiting for a quality phone with these specs, the price is steep, but I think Google is just feels android has gotten big enough they don't need to subsidize the sales any longer. there are so many high quality 5" or so phones on the market right now.
[Nexus 6  General] Bilhouse:
The size is definitely the worse aspect, but its something I will get over quickly after handling a Note 4 and OnePlus ONE.

I don't really understand all the outrage in regards to the pricing. Its a device with incredibly good specs. Large Quad HD AMOLED panel, aluminium frame, front facing stereo speakers, large battery, wireless and turbo charging, 13MP camera with OIS and 4K recording, splash proof etc.

Plus its not like its the first time Google has sold a Nexus device at a premium cost. I have a feeling many of the people complaining have only been introduced to the Nexus programme since the Nexus 4 and have become accustomed to a low SIM Free price on Google Play. This hasn't always been the case. I remember having owned them all since the original Nexus One that it also was sold at a substantial cost. As was the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus initially.

They are clearly changing strategy. Perhaps they are seeking higher profit margins. The Android Silver programme is out of the picture (at least for the time being). This is the same theory but being applied to the Nexus line now. You can see it with the increased network presence in the US on AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile etc. I also assume both the Nexus 6 and Nexus 9 will have a far stronger retail presence and a better marketing campaign to go with them as well.
[Nexus 6  General] hutzdani:
Both :

Its needlessly big, its needlessly 4K and because of such things its overpriced.

Oh and its hardly a phone, its a Measuring stick against other OEM's
[Nexus 6  General] danarama:
Quad HD is "2k". 4k is UHD.
[Nexus 6  General] eksasol:
I only visited this thread to give it a 1 star rating. Bye.
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
Neither! I've waited a year to get this big bad boy! :D
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
No worse. I'm fine with both.
[Nexus 6  General] rapha.194:
size is worse!

You recover money

The size will always be so!
[Nexus 6  General] funkyblue04:
Size. 800% too big. Is it so hard to give us an updated Nexus 5 with a killer battery?

There needs to be many more pure Android stock devices.

Where is my Nexus Z3? :D
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
Do you also kick puppies?

If anyone else would like to rate the thread more highly, thanks.

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It's interesting that in this other poll at Reddit, that I linked to above, the dissatisfaction with the size vs. the price has remained about equal. Whereas in my poll in this thread price has significantly overtaken size. Since the Reddit poll has hundreds of responses, I suppose it's more reflective of general opinion out there, though perhaps there is a difference between the values of Redditers vs. XDAers.

If I had to guess, I'd say that people on XDA are self selecting gadget nerds and phone hackers. So it's not surprising that size would not stand in the way as much for getting the latest awesome Nexus device. Also, people on XDA may be more the sort of people who always want the latest greatest phone and replace their phones once a year, if not more often, so price will be more of a barrier. Whereas at Reddit maybe it is more the general public and at least judging by sales, the vast majority of people still prefer smaller phones.
[Nexus 6  General] tkoreaper:
Everyone keeps commenting about the size, but no one takes into account that it's just the screen... the bezels are actually pretty small and it's as big as the iPhone 6 Plus.
[Nexus 6  General] funkyblue04:
Who cares about the bezel. The phone is just too big. Give us the same specs with a 5" screen!
[Nexus 6  General] cstrife999:
Don't know why people would say size as larger phones are quiet common these days. Its only slightly larger than my one max.....
[Nexus 6  General] Fatelord:
Definitely size, sure the price is high for a nexus but we can agree that the price is justifiable with the amazing specs .. I just can't get onboard with the size, this will be the first nexus I ever skip sadly .. Excited about nexus 9 though.

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The IPhone 6 plus is pretty big though, I bought IPhone 6 despite the inferior battery and display because of the size.
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
That is not a picture of the Nexus 6. That is a picture of a prototype version of the Nexus 6 that is smaller than the actual production unit. That image has already been posted in the forums and debunked. People need to stop reposting false information.

Also the iPhone 6 Plus (and all the other phones except the Nexus 6 prototype) is in a case in that photo, which makes it appear larger. Completely useless and absurd for size comparison purposes.

The actual final Nexus 6 is larger than the iPhone 6 Plus in every dimension (taller, wider, and thicker). It is also larger in every dimension than the Note 4 and the OnePlus One. Whether you like the size or not, the truth is that the Nexus 6 is a huge phone, eclipsing even other phablets.

Take a look at PhoneArena's size comparison tool to see just how much the Nexus 6 dwarfs all of these other phablets:

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...Note-4,OnePlus-One/phones/8626,8908,8577,8603
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
Actually the Nexus 6 is smaller than the One Max. See: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...e/Google-Nexus-6,HTC-One-max/phones/8626,8008

Pretty ridiculous when one considers how much bigger the Nexus 6 is than most phablets. The One Max is a killer of phablet killers, when it comes to size.
[Nexus 6  General] tkoreaper:
The "prototype" version is exactly the same except for the motorola logo on the front. And, unless you have very bad eyes, the page you linked shows the EXACT same differences that are noticeable in the picture that I linked.
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
The height is fine for me, it's the width that could be annoying.
[Nexus 6  General] RW-1:
I'm coming from a GNex, have used my wife's GS5 on occasion, it is big, but I figure a worthy upgrade from what I was coming from ....

As to cost, the rumor mill is that most carriers will place it in their installment plans as with other smartphones, I know that doesn't make it cheaper, but at least we don't have to shell it out all at once to get it.
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2014/10/android-be-together-not-same.html?m=1

If you read google blogs, they have new commercials featuring nexus devices. The route they are going now. I saw one on TV last night during the NFL with the google watch and both nexus devices. If promoted, this thing is going to sell. Cheapest premium phablet out there.
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
It's virtually the same size as my Note 3 but with bigger screen and front facing stereo speakers! It's a complete win!
[Nexus 6  General] eksasol:
Droid Turbo.
[Nexus 6  General] funkyblue04:
That's a US only phone with US only bands and does not have stock Android.
[Nexus 6  General] Suo.Eno:
For sake of discussion here's a reality check on why 6" and down phones are here to stay:-

Over here in Malaysia for example, there's a sizable user base that seems content on using 7" tabs as a phone yes sans BT earpieces, slapped onto side of face no problems and fairly balanced between the sexes. Why do you think Samsung keep trotting out those lower end Tab of theirs? Well now you know... So to me anything that's still not north of 6.0" approximate with phone bezels will always be a lot more saner choice than a 7" tab with tab bezels. Yes I did draw the line when Sony outed Z Ultra yet I don't have a problem with say a Lumia 1520 which imo is a well designed six incher.

In the end it's all about improving on screen to size ratios and nothing is lost there look at LG G3 that's something. iPhone 6 Plus? Well Apple being Apple they're some years behind maybe they'll fix that on the next 6S+ who gives a sh*t but voila take solace now that Moto did very very well at cramming in the .4" diff into shamu's chassis that's barely certifiable over 6 Plus'.

Z3C's success along with iPhone 6 ensures that the 4.5 - 4.7" range won't ever go away for years to come.
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
I do not think the prototype is the same. More importantly, as I pointed out, in the photo you provide the iPhone 6+ is in a case that makes it appear much larger than it actually is. The link I provide to the PhoneArena size comparison tool clearly shows, as I said, that the Nexus 6 is larger than the iPhone 6+, the Note 4, and the OnePlus One, larger in every dimension--wider, taller, and thicker. Anyone interested in getting a good sense of just how large the Nexus 6 is, should go use the PhoneArena size comparison tool themselves, and not take seriously the misleading photo of the Nexus 6 prototype next to an iPhone 6+ in a bulky case.

Also just looking at the specs of the phones makes this obvious:

Nexus 6: 159.3 x 83 x 10.1 mm

iPhone 6+: 158.1 x 77.8 x 7.1 mm

Note 4: 153.5 x 78.6 x 8.5 mm

OnePlus One: 152.9 x 75.9 x 8.9 mm

If people like the size of the Nexus 6, that great. But it is misleading to pretend that it is not larger than other very large phablets.

It especially is quite a bit wider. It is half a centimeter or more wider than these other phones, which will effect holding it with one hand a lot. And since dimensions on phones increase the overall area of a phone, than means any larger dimension increases the size of the phone geometically, i.e. by a factor of four.

Also, because it is the thickest of these devices, that is going to increase the perception of the largeness to the phone. Thinness, like of the iPhone 6+, can go a long way to mitigating the size of a phone, when you're trying to carry it in a pocket. Yes, the edges of the Nexus 6 taper down to a thinner dimension. But reviews of similar phone designs (Moto X, OnePlus One) have consistently noted that although this mitigates the perception of the thickness of the phone some, it does not make it seem equivalent to an overall thinner phone.

So, again, if people like large phones, that's great. But don't pretend this is in the same league as other popular phablets. It's taking the size up another notch.
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
Motorola puts stock android on all their phones now. The only changes they make are in the form of an all-encompassing app that adds a whole bunch of actually useful features like Active Display and Moto Voice. Aside from that, the core stock Android experience is left completely intact.
[Nexus 6  General] tkoreaper:
The prototype IS the same with the only difference being the moto logo. Also, I never claimed it to be the same size as the other phones. Both websites show clearly enough how big it is compared to other phones... Yes, even with the case it is still visible which, by the way, barely adds any bulk to those phones. What I was trying to show was how it sizes up against the others visually... Most people see numbers and freak out, but they really don't know how big it was.
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
If you think the Galaxy S5 is big, you really need to take a look at the PhoneArena comparison tool, before considering getting a Nexus 6: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...le-Nexus-6,Samsung-Galaxy-S5/phones/8626,8202

The Nexus 6 just dwarfs the Galaxy S5. It's almost 2 cm taller, a good 1 cm wider, and thicker. Again, thinking about that geometrically, that means the area covered by the Nexus 6 is 28% more than the Galaxy S5.

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Not really, it's quite a bit larger: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...exus-6,Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3/phones/8626,7984

Nexus 6: 159.3 x 83 x 10.1 mm

Note 3: 151.2 x 79.2 x 8.3 mm

That's just about 1 cm taller and 4 mm wider. Look at the comparison tool You will not feel like you're looking at similar sized phones.

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Thinner bezels only go so far. The screen alone on the Nexus 6 is almost as big as the entire LG G3. And the screen on the Nexus 6 is much larger than the entire iPhone 6: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...-6,LG-G3,Apple-iPhone-6/phones/8626,8347,8346

For people who like 5" and below type phones, bezels alone are not going to save them.

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In the end, the Nexus 6 is a very nice phone. And if people like the size, more power to them. But it's just not honest to pretend that this is not a huge huge phone, even in the world of phablets.
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
You can't list the thickness of a curved device with a nominal value..... The cross sectional area of the N6 is less than the other devices.
[Nexus 6  General] theoneofgod:
A bit of both. A 4.5" device for me is perfect. One handed use works and I don't feel like I'm gonna drop it. Then you have the price, It's going to be near £600 for the 64GB model which is just far too expensive.
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
I think you're wrong about the prototype, but putting that aside the case on the iPhone 6+ in that photo is not negligible. The photo is extremely misleading as a way to get a visual sense of how the two phones compare. It's also a weird photo because of the angle it's taken at.

Again, anyone who wants a good tool for this sort of visual comparison just needs to look at the PhoneArena size comparison tool: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...-Nexus-6,Apple-iPhone-6-Plus/phones/8626,8908

It's easy to see that the Nexus 6 is quite a bit wider than the iPhone 6+ and that it is thicker (about 40% thicker). It's actually quite an achievement that the Nexus 6 manages to make the enormous iPhone 6+ look somewhat slight. The Nexus 6 is going to feel much larger in the hand. Pretending otherwise is not an honest assement of the two phones. People (who aren't into huge phones) have good reason to freak out when they see the numbers.
[Nexus 6  General] force70:
Couldn't agree more, I'm happy with the size and feel the price is fair.

sent from Canada via my Note 3, Note 2 or One X+
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
I already responded to that issue in my post with the dimensons, if your read it. The tapered edges will make some difference in how the phone feels. But reviews of similar designs (2nd Gen Moto X, OnePlus One) have consistently found that while the tapering helps, it does not make a phone seem the same as a phone that is simply thinner overall. So with a super huge phone like the Nexus 6, people are exaggerating to suggest that the tapered edges are going to mitigate the enormous size much.

It's just a big big phone, people need to accept that. If you like enormous phones, great. If you have doubts about it, don't try to fool yourself into believing that this is a phone even like the Note 3 or 4. It's bigger, it will feel bigger, the giantness of the size is a real thing.
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
I will enjoy every tenth of a millimeter of size. Every one.
[Nexus 6  General] funkyblue04:
It's not stock though. You still have to wait for a third party to update. Updates do not come direct from Google, so no its not completely stock.
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
Yes, for people who like the size it's a great phone. I'm sure you'll love it. I'm only responding to the posts that attempt to downplay the size (like your previous post that I was responding to) and suggest it's similar to phablets like the iPhone 6+ or Note 3 and 4. That's just not accurate at all. People who are concerned about the size need to be clear what they are getting into. Pretending otherwise doesn't help anyone.
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
Right, I get that, but it is *essentially* stock. Because there is no skin or major modifications done, they get updates FAST. Instead of waiting months to get an update, they come to Motorola phones in a manner of weeks. Sometimes even sooner. The Moto X got kitkat before the Nexus 4 did.
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
I can't remember where I saw this, but I was surprised to learn that the 2nd Gen Moto X has a couple non stock apps. The email and SMS apps or something (I'm not sure which). Maybe this is wrong, but I did read it somewhere.

I think the main difference with the Moto X, vs. a Nexus device, is that for those into custom ROMs and other hacks, there is going to be zero development for the 2nd Gen Moto X (like the 1st Gen Moto X before it). Even less development than for other totally not stock phones like the Galaxy devices. And if there's maybe one ROM, like Cyanogen, it will disable the cool Moto features like active notifications and Moto Voice. So you better be okay with the Moto X as it is. When it comes to custom ROMs it will be much less flexible than a lot of phones. It kind of makes the Pure Edition Moto X a pointless exercise, why have an unlocked phone if there's no development for it? (Of course, Xposed Framework does seem to work on the Moto X.)
[Nexus 6  General] funkyblue04:
This is why Google releasing a new Nexus 5 was so important. We want pure Google and a normal sized phone!
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
Yeah, it seems like the obvious solution.

If people like phablets, that's great. But it only makes up a relatively small part of the market. Right now 14% of the handsets in the world are phablets and projections say it will be 30% by 2018. That leaves 70%, at least, who want a smaller phone. Two new Nexus phones would have been easy. Especially since one of them could have just been a version of the 2nd Gen Moto X, with it's 5.2" screen.

I'm tired of the trend lately where only phablets are the true flagship phones. The Nexus 6 has better specs and components than the 2nd Gen Moto X. LG's flagship, the G3 is by all rights a phablet. Even Apple put better specs in the iPhone 6+ than the iPhone 6. It's dumb and alienates the majority of the market.

So many handsets are constantly being released, I just don't believe it would have been a problem to have two Nexus devices, with the same specs, except screen size.
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
All they gotta do is go to a store and hold it.....
[Nexus 6  General] donharden2002:
I can't wait to hold it in my hands to see how it feels.

Have had the note 1,2,3 the oppo find 7 and now an lg g3.

If it's not too much bigger than the oppo was I think I'll be okay with the size.
[Nexus 6  General] 3473:
Price is fine, it's what I expect to pay for a high end phone. If they had made it cheap, then no doubt something important like the battery would have been sacrificed

Size might be a bit big, so might return it if its unmanageable
[Nexus 6  General] mark2410:
price.

if it had been priced like the 5 then all the things i dont like id have overlooked. however, that size, no sd card and no removable battery are all great big problems for me.
[Nexus 6  General] monkeypaws:
So tell that to all the people that threw their credit card at the iPhone 6 and 6+.
[Nexus 6  General] Fu5ion:
how soon until we think it'll be available in stores? really won't be able to tell if the size is okay for me until i hold it in my hand
[Nexus 6  General] force70:
Im still waiting on my note 4 for gods sake! Ill probably have the n6 in hand before it arrives lol.

If i had to guess id say maybe mid november on the play store

sent from Canada via my Note 3, Note 2 or One X+
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
Yes, I'm curious to hold the real thing myself. But having already held a Note 3 and Note 4 and iPhone 6+ and finding them all to be horribly enormous and not comfortable to use at all, I do not have a lot of hope for the even larger Nexus 6. I don't really even like the size of the LG G3. For me the S5 or 2nd Gen Moto X is about as big as I want to go. So for people who don't like huge phones like the Note 4 and have seen them, it prefectly reasonable that they are unhappy with the dimensions of the Nexus 6. I don't think seeing it in person is going to change that fact that its even bigger than phones many people have already decided are too big.

I read in one place it's supposed to start shipping November 12, so I don't imagine we would see it in stores until after that.
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
I think you definitely will find the N6 to be too big then.
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
Yes, I think that's obvious from my posts above.

It's too bad, because otherwise the Nexus 6 seems like the best Nexus device yet and really improves on areas where other Nexus devices fell short. And I've always had Nexus phones. I could get a 2nd Gen Moto X, but I like custom ROMs--and it lacks the stereo speakers and OIS. Otherwise, I just have to wait another year for the next generation Nexus device and hope there's a smaller option, which doesn't seem like a great choice (or a good assumption).
[Nexus 6  General] dr.m0x:
Now that I'm used to big phones, anything less than 5.5" just won't cut it. Really happy with the screen size, what I'm less thrilled about us the qhd. Is there really a need for anything greater than 1080p on a freaking phone?

Mmm bacon
[Nexus 6  General] SenK9:
Definitely the size. If the N6 was in an N5 body (and there's every reason to believe it's possible), I'd be all over it.
[Nexus 6  General] Run_dawn10:
I would say the size.

I wouldn't mind if they base the N6 1:1 on the new Moto X. 6.0 in just seems unwieldy.
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
Yes, I really wish they had done that. All the other specs are great. It's even better in several ways than the 2nd Gen Moto X. And I'd be completely happy with that size.
[Nexus 6  General] Head-Hertz:
The size for sure.

This thing is wider than my palm (below fingers) and taller than my hand (from wrist to fingertips). If you include the thickness + a case, I have no hope of holding this thing without constant fear of it flying out my grip.

After the Z3's DRM issues I was seriously looking forward to the new nexus. Sony make the Z3C so I don't understand why they couldn't have a 5" N6. I need something i can carry aroind in my pocket at work.