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[Nexus Player General] jaykresge:
My only interest in the Nexus Player is the platform behind it. Hopefully Google can quickly iron out the main bugs, while other hardware OEMs bring their wares to market. The Nexus Player should serve as the baseline, for those who want something like a Roku or Apple TV, at the same price, but can do more. For the rest of us, we want the devices with better hardware and storage options in the $149-$199 range so that we can do even more with it, without having to resort to an HTPC and all of the issues those bring.
[Nexus Player General] Montisaquadeis:
Ive I have said before has anyone tried a USB ethernet adapter on this yet? I have herd people say the wifi on the ADT-1 is lousy and can cuase a number of the issues the reviews seem to be complaining about and that switching to ethernet on the ADT-1 fixed them. I was wondering if the same could be said about the Nexus Player aka the smooth playback might be wifi issues whither int he hardware of software level. and switching to ethernet may or may not help with playback.
[Nexus Player General] sublimnl:
According to Koush, a buddy of his at Google says usb ethernet is supported. Take that for what its worth.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus Player General] Montisaquadeis:
Yeah I know but we have yet to hear of any one trying that to see if these playback issues and stuff are solved. Which is the point I was getting at with my last post.
[Nexus Player General] ggrammer:
You do realize nobody has this in their hands yet right?

Just because the adt1 had issues won't mean this one will...
[Nexus Player General] sublimnl:
They are shipping now so all will be answered soon.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus Player General] Montisaquadeis:
The reviewers are the ones having issues and its sounding like your typical first gen products aka full of bugs and rough around the edges.
[Nexus Player General] Luxferro:
http://www.androidcentral.com/about-nexus-player-and-usb-support

it's been tried, and works according to that review.
[Nexus Player General] Montisaquadeis:
IT may work but it doesn't say if it helps with the numerous issues the reviews are complaining about like choppy video playback over network for example.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StrangeTimes:
So I have totally been off the scene for quite sometime and now finding the time and interest to be involved in this again, but where to start really? I feel so lost and out of the loop. Read through a lot of the posts and done my research for root and s-off. After reading I see that 4.4.3 has been causing some issues. I have my Verizon M8 running Stock. No root. 4.4.3. Where the heck do i begin?

What do I need to do for root since Weaksauce no longer works?

How do I gain root access and what programs am I needing that are up to date and functioning properly.

S-off? Firewater? Understand I need temp root, but I want permanent root.

Interested in TWRP for sure for custom recovery and flashing.

Can I get some help for a returning lost person? I wanna know exactly what programs I am going to need that are up to date. I want to flash custom roms etc of course (already have one in mind) but would like to know what the best android L themed one would be.

Looking forward to hearing from you guys. Thanks for the help and time you took to read this.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darth:
You don't need S-OFF necessarily, but you either have to unlock your bootloader on htcdev site, or use Sunshine to unlock and S-OFF for 25 bucks.

Those are your 2 options.

Then you can flash custom recovery and ROOT.
[Nexus 6  General] qwerty12601:
Ouch. Guess they're confident enough in the Nexus line now that they're looking for a profit on devices now too. Maybe a shift to selling subsidized on carriers is more of a priority.

http://motorola-blog.blogspot.nl/2014/10/nexus-6-from-google-and-motorola-more.html?linkId=10037351
[Nexus 6  General] mk92595:
Ya I'm gonna pass
[Nexus 6  General] racerxe24:
That has to mean that the 64GB version will be $699. That is really crazy for a nexus device.
[Nexus 6  General] idbl_fanatic:
$650 I'll pass
[Nexus 6  General] mk92595:
I hope they fail so they know the main reason people bought nexus devices was because of a cheap price tag
[Nexus 6  General] dadoc04:
pass like nash
[Nexus 6  General] Lil Geeky:
In my opinion the point of nexus to make high specs phone with instant android version updates with low budget which i cannot find in N6 :/

sorry for my English
[Nexus 6  General] th3xeroeagle:
750$ in Canada....OUCH, WHY GOOGLE, WHY
[Nexus 6  General] thesoupthief:
Too rich for my blood - and for a lot of other people's too, it appears - Google's going to continue to sell the Nexus 5 for those of us without bottomless pockets

Interesting how LOLLIPOP (there - we can say it now!) is built to run on lower spec devices, yet they're still pushing the highest of high ends with this. Not complaining at all - it looks like a beast, alas one I'm unlikely to get to own
[Nexus 6  General] mvha:
When I heard of N6 and it's specs I say: I selling my N5 and must have N6!!

But not when I read about prices.
[Nexus 6  General] willybarca:
going back to Samsung, better pay premium for a premium device, not this nexus 5.5
[Nexus 6  General] dyc4ha:
I thought this was the unlocked carrier price, not the Play price...
[Nexus 6  General] doctahjeph:
Samsung always seems to plasticy for me.

As for the $649 I am okay with it. This phone is very comparable to other flag ship devices, so it isn't like it is more expensive then the other phones out there in it range. I think many are just bummed because they are used to paying about half that for a Nexus. I already knew I was getting this phone no matter what and planned for it to be about this expensive just in case. One thing I hope this price does is bring down the bottle neck when it comes time to preorder.
[Nexus 6  General] shah_vm:
i hope then dont charge shipping unlike during nexus 5 there was a shipping charge. shipping charge is going bring this phone to 700 usd
[Nexus 6  General] TXRaunchy:
$649 is a total letdown...

I wonder if that $49.99 with contract deal is real.
[Nexus 6  General] RRunner3:
Nexus 5 was too succesfull. I'll pass on this, too expensive.
[Nexus 6  General] doctahjeph:
probaby $49.99 a month....
[Nexus 6  General] Daps:
Well I guess I'm out at that price.

Hate to say it but if I'm going $650 I may as well go iPhone in case I want to sell it.

Guess I'll pick up a MotoX 2ndGen after Christmas
[Nexus 6  General] edd247:
Supposedly Tmobile is charging $650 for the 64gb. It doesn't make sense for it to be cheaper than the play store.
[Nexus 6  General] DarknessWarrior:
The price hasn't been announced officially yet, there's still hope.

If its 650 I'm out
[Nexus 6  General] 1ceb0x:
hahaha. you ride your coworkers at work? that's an interesting job xD.

sorry, couldn't help myself :D
[Nexus 6  General] qwerty12601:
Apparently, you have the short memory...

Nexus S had a HORRIBLE camera, less than mediocre battery, dismal screen, and as cheap as cheap can get build material. The curved screen was the coolest feature on it.

The galaxy nexus had an ABYSMAL battery, so much so they were giving bigger batteries away! A PATHETIC camera, felt like a piece of crap for lack of a better word.

The nexus 4 was the biggest jump in build quality, material selection and features to ever hit the nexus line. Bleeding edge specs, beautiful screen, hardware that rivaled the iPhone. People STILL love the nexus 4. I still have mine, its not going anywhere. And to boot, it was the MOST AFFORDABLE nexus ever made.

You're argument...totally unfounded.
[Nexus 6  General] Jammol:
To guy about them not being cheap. I can afford it. I can afford to go and buy a few right now and no.need to worry about the bank. But I will not. Doesn't matter who they are and what they have charged. It's the reason I will NEVER EVER EVEN CONSIDER buying a MAC. Just because you have a name doesn't mean you should charge whatever you want. The cost of making the Nexus 6 doesn't even come close to how much they are charging. It's the difference between my Ford Taurus SHO and a idiots that buy the M3s.

Fine the Nexus 5 is still there. So are other devices that are better. They will never get my money ever again until they release something that's worth it.

It's the reason the last iPhone I owned was a 4. Now look who's making big phones. Lol. The company that said they would never.
[Nexus 6  General] expiredd:
For me best replacement and prefered phone would be the new Moto X.. but wait that battery is the same that Nexus 5. /clap Motorola.
[Nexus 6  General] 3473:
So what you're saying is, in the past Google has charged expensive prices for poorly specd phones, so now they're charging expensive prices for a high end phone, you should be happy?

For reference the pathetic camera and battery carried over to the nexus 4 and 5, that's part of the reason why they were cheap

The nexus 6 essentially matches the note 4 in most areas. They're not going to give you that for $350, stop whining like a spoilt child.
[Nexus 6  General] mailboy1412:
Holy crap Google. I was on the fence of getting the Note 4 with the $200 trade in guaranteed promotion.

Upon hearing $650, I immediately grabbed my ancient LG G2X went to T-Mobile and ordered Note 4, the promotion making it $750 - $200 = $550. Way better deal.

Google lost it, people.
[Nexus 6  General] Andrew149:
Look at everyone complaining about the price of the phone when other phones go for more money and have lesser specs
[Nexus 6  General] Ulver:
Wow, I would spend the extra $100 to have a N6 instead.

Sent from my Xiaomi Mi4
[Nexus 6  General] Teo128:
I was expecting a lower price, 650$ in the US means over 700€ in europe for the 64GB version, at that price I can get a High-end samsung smartphone that hardware wise is more suitable for my esigenses, Right now I would buy a 64gb ONEplusONE for half the price .

Quad HD its IMO overdoing in a 6" screen, Its going just to hinder the performances.
[Nexus 6  General] mvha:
But when I think more about prices of new nexus devices I understand something in google politics.

Nexus 5 - 5" smartphone with prices about 300$ his release date is Oct 2013 so do not require too much

Nexus 6 - 6" phablet with costs probably 650$

Nexus 9 - tablet around 300$

Try to find devices with offer You: android 5.0 so early and similar specification in this prices.

For example

Nexus 5 - Xperia Z1 costs: 350-400$

Nexus 6 - Note 4 costs: 700-800$

Nexus 9 - Galaxy tab pro 8.4 costs: 300$

Is there anyone who can tell me new Nexus devices is so bad?
[Nexus 6  General] blade_:
very,very expensive
[Nexus 6  General] joshm.1219:
No one can argue it's a fair price for the hardware, although this is alienating people. I've been very lucky in life and I'm still sweating over actually spending $700 for a goddamn phone. It's definitely something I have to think about.
[Nexus 6  General] luker907:
It could have been much more attractive with a ~5inch 1080p screen and in result a lower price tag...
[Nexus 6  General] jean019:
Google used to build good quality phones at good price.

This one will be the first FLOP of Google, it's overpiriced, whatever the specs.

People who have lots of money buy Apple for marketing and services, not Google.

I'm not going to buy it.
[Nexus 6  General] dia_naji:
I think I'll stick with my moto x. 649.99 is just to much...
[Nexus 6  General] eep2378:
Um.........Nexus 5
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
I remember paying over $700 cash for my 32GB VZW Galaxy Nexus. I know the GSM only version was cheaper, but lets face it, a Nexus that works on all networks is not going to be cheap.

I do agree, and expect, a cheaper Nexus in the near future. I believe they will either replace or refresh the Nexus 5 at some point.

One thing to note is the official nexus page includes the 5, 6, 9, and player.

No Nexus 7? Why not? I'm betting because the 9 is replacing both the 7 and 10. Clearly Google does not expect the 6 to replace the 5.
[Nexus 6  General] luker907:
Yes, a Nexus 5 with a much better camera and some other hardware improvements :)
[Nexus 6  General] freebee269:
You can already get that. It's called a nexus 5 and it's the reason why Google will continue to sell it.

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Also how fast you guys forget that only the nexus 4 and 5 were priced low. In fact the nexus devices before those had a higher price tag. The htc nexus one was 529 and the two Samsung nexus phones were over 500. So this is not the first time nor will it be the last.
[Nexus 6  General] TheExtra404:
well, since im still running around with a S3. Unless there is something else that catches my attention in a few months when i will have enough to buy a new phone i am definitely going with the N6. I keep my phones for a few years so the price seems fair to me. Around the same amount i paid for the S3 when it first came out, which was awhile ago. lol

:D
[Nexus 6  General] Alaris:
I really hope the cost difference between 32gb and 64gb is the usual 50 dollars. I don't like the fact that they don't list the cost of 64gb.
[Nexus 6  General] kingston73:
I don't understand why so many people are so upset about $649. The note 4 costs $749 and every other premium smart phone is in the +$600 range as well.
[Nexus 6  General] mb3030:
im in for $650 - sure i would have loved a cheaper price point, but nexus devices have been the only ones ive been able to stick with for a full year.
[Nexus 6  General] Aserus:
My thoughts about the price: I bought my galaxy nexus for the same price off contract almost 3 years ago and have been using it ever since. I'm willing to pay $700 for another 3 years with a great new phone. Seems to me like most people were spoiled with a greatly priced nexus 5 and aren't willing to pay $650 to upgrade as they don't feel they've got their money's worth out of the phone yet, and feel that paying full price for the new nexus would tarnish their investment. My advice: don't bother buying this phone if you plan on selling it in a year, as you won't find anyone willing to pay anywhere near full price for a used Nexus 6. Hold on to your nexus 5 for another 2 years and I'm sure you'll be excited to get a new nexus no matter the price.

As for the size, Apple's iPhone 6 Plus is about 158x78mm (height x width) while the Nexus 6 is 159x83mm. Given the bigger screen size and smaller bezels than the iPhone 6 Plus, the Nexus 6 is pretty much the same dimensions as the iPhone 6+, yet I don't see as many people complaining that the iPhone 6+ is too big for use compared to the outburst by nexus fans. The only questionable part about the nexus 6's size is it's depth, but I'm willing to have a thicker phone for a bigger battery (since the galaxy nexus I use has terrible battery life).

These are my thoughts as someone who planned on buying the Nexus 6 as an upgrade since earlier this year. I'd enjoy a premium phone for a premium price.
[Nexus 6  General] orangekid:
Looks like I will be skipping this device.

I cannot justify spending $650 + shipping/tax for this device. I loved the Nexus phones for their stock AOSP and price tag, but at this point I am just going to wait for the OnePlus Two or something because it is basically the same thing as a Nexus phone at this point.

$650 for the base model is basically taking a page from Samsung's and Apple's book now. But a Nexus phone is NOT a "cool phone" like the iPhone and SGS, so I really question the marketing on this.
[Nexus 6  General] kingston73:
Can you tell me one single phone with equivalent specs that costs the same as the N5? I'm not talking about the outliers like the Oneplus, I'm talking about established name brands. The N5 was a bargain and UNDER priced, the N6 is priced correctly or even still a little under priced vs it's competition.
[Nexus 6  General] Shibby303:
I had the 32GB Note 4 preordered for $750. I'll gladly spend the same amount for a better phone that has 64GB on top of it. Note 4 canceled
[Nexus 6  General] orangekid:
Under and over are subjective. It depends on how much profit the company wants. When the materials cost about ~$150 to ~$225 then selling the phone at $350 still nets a profit. I think the issue is that starting with the N4 they seemed to set a new trend for Nexus devices selling at a lower price. Now they suddenly change that and of course people are going to be upset.

Google/Moto can do what they want and price how they want, and that's fine with me, but I, as a consumer, get to choose what to buy, and since I don't subsidize phones (I am on tmobile) I don't really feel like spending about $720 for a new phone (included tax and $15 shipping). My point is that now Google is just like Samsung, Apple, HTC etc, and there is no more price break for people buying direct from Google anymore.

I personally think their sales will not be that high, because they do not advertise like Apple, Samsung, and HTC do. The only Nexus phone commercial I have ever seen was that Verizon Galaxy Nexus one. I am a bit confused as to what Google is doing at this point to be honest.
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
These! They hit the nail on the head!
[Nexus 6  General] THE_KINGDOM:
Simple put, too big and too expensive.

I'd be willing to give the size a shot, but with that price point, forget it!

That's premium price territory WITHOUT the premium feature like fingerprint scanner, laser autofocus etc.. that's what those manufacturers usually charge extra for.. not to mention it's 10mm thick.. jesus christ are we going back in time? At least if it's going to be that big, make it thin so it's more manageable and pocketable..

This is a real let down. I just can't believe how much they are charging for this device. Anybody even trying to justify this price is out of their F****ING mind's.

Nexus 5 (base price): $349CAD

Nexus 6 (Base price): $749CAD

umm? :S paying over double for the Nexus 6.. I'm extremely confused and shocked..
[Nexus 6  General] Aserus:
What I see you and many others doing on here is comparing the N6 to the N5 as if they were the same phone. The Nexus 6 has completely different internals, a completely different build quality, a completely different design, so it makes sense that it should have a completely different base price. The Nexus 5 had the top specs of the time for a cheap price, but the Nexus 6 has the current top specs which is significantly better than that of the N5, so I can see why there would be an increase in price. Now the question is whether the price is justifiable, but that won't be decided on until we can get a price breakdown on each of the parts and manufacturing/research costs to see if Google/Motorola isn't just raising the price for profit.
[Nexus 6  General] THE_KINGDOM:
FYI nexus 5 was top specs at it's time also. So your argument is invalid.

As somebody else pointed out already there is not a linear trend of increasing prices on tech otherwise we'd be buying tablets for several thousand dollars.

Prices of processors per quantifiable performance comes down every year. What that means is that just because a computer has double the spec of last years model doesn't mean it's double the price, it will perhaps be a touch more expensive or even more likely the same price because it's a new time around, a new release AT IT'S TIME. just like the Nexus 5 was, top spec AT IT'S TIME.
[Nexus 6  General] Aserus:
Read please.

I'm not saying price should rise linearly with the tech, and I'm not saying the price of the N6 is justified, but I'm explaining why I'm not surprised why the price was raised. I'm confused why people are expecting better specs than the N5 for a cheaper price than the N5. Once again we won't know the reason for such a big markup until we get a breakdown or production and research costs.
[Nexus 6  General] mELIANTE:
I just don't get this strategy.

If it's imposed by the manufacturers, I don't think HTC and Motorola are thinking in the long run. They need their brand in as much hands as possible and they won't get that with these prices.

This is the final nail in HTC's coffin and Motorola will stay in a slump.
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
The camera and battery weren't top specs. Hell my DNA camera smoked it, battery similar, and the display was better. Your argument is invalid.
[Nexus 6  General] THE_KINGDOM:
And neither is the camera in the nexus 6 top notch, and no high tech focus.. and it doesn't have a fingerprint scanner. For that price range..

So with all that missing I'd say on par with Nexus 5 as a release of it's time.

Therefore pricing should be similar
[Nexus 6  General] paul c:
I think Google's strategy for the Nexus line has evolved over time. Originally they were developer-centric devices to secure the app ecosystem. Now that's rock solid, the excellent-value but very plasticky developer Nexus4 has evolved into the Nexus consumer brand.

Aluminium, size based on market fashion (imagine what would be said if the screen were smaller than the new iPhone?), AMOLED screen, chunky battery, fast charging capability. A dev needs very little of all that.

The Google ecosystem is basically bulletproof now, the Nexus line has a good following - and by definition that means more pure consumers. And that means they can make more money.

Google is a big hairy capitalist juggernaut, their only interest is to make money - not friends.

So my Nexus4 is good for a while yet :) Will probably be eventually replaced by a Chinese phone, since the value is there now.
[Nexus 6  General] Ulver:
Lol, hairy

Sent from my Xiaomi Mi4
[Nexus 6  General] cipsaz:
Yes, expensive, but..

Available on all carriers, build quality superb by Motorola, top spec. What else do you want or expect? A high end cheap phone? You have a Nexus 5 and bunch of others.
[Nexus 6  General] BruKnowsBest:
that is not why I bought my nexus devices... and I am sure everyone here at XDA feels the same way, I bought it cuz it's a great device and it doesnt have all the bloatware and useless features

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we are not expecting to be cheaper than the n5, but didn't expect to be so much more expensive.
[Nexus 6  General] kevinlevrone:
Plasticky Nexus 4 ? That phone had its flaws (like the camera), but plasticky was not one of them, it was glass front and back, looked great (I owned it).
[Nexus 6  General] NardVa:
I think the $650 price tag off contract is to help push the subsidized phone through the carrier. I believe that was the only way to get AT&T and Verizon on board in the US. It's hard to sell a phone $200 on contract when you can by it for $350 off contract. I think this phone will sit at $650 for about 6 months then drop to $500 or less in the Play Store.
[Nexus 6  General] spinkick:
not to mention this thing has better specs than an iphone 6 plus which is 100 bucks more right?
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
Just saw TV commercial for android during Thursday night football featuring nexus products and the google watch. They are going to push this.
[Nexus 6  General] LNJ:
You know if the N6 came with the 64bit K1 or SD 810, I wouldn't complain and pay the asking price. Kinda hard to stomach a last of its kind 32bit chipset at such a high price point when you know 808 and 810 will roll out soon...

HTC One M8
[Nexus 6  General] DirgeExtinction:
Weren't the first two Nexus phones expensive as well when they released?
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
Yup
[Nexus 6  General] Mordar:
any high end android phone is better than an iphone tho

actually no, the nexus 5 was the lesser priced of the high end phones last year, and that was made it appealing
[Nexus 6  General] ShapesBlue:
You got that right. I can't wait for the nexus 6 to drop on VZW otherwise I was going to jump ship

Sent from CM11 S3 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 6  General] DirgeExtinction:
So the Nexus One and Nexus S weren't expensive for their time? I mean, the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, and Nexus 5 were all relatively cheap compared to similar phones on the market.