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[Nexus 6  General] land2634:
There will definitely be roms, kernels, and support. I've never developed myself, but from what I understand, developers have a much easier time developing for Nexus devices due to the fast availability of source code.
[Nexus 6  General] TMYINC:
First off there is no need to be rude. Secondly I was referring to the AT&T version of these devices when I said bloatware would be preinstalled if there is any...not activated by the sim activation. The article you referred to says it is an option in lollipop...not a guarantee. As far as I know AT&T had opted out of this feature with this device. It may be utilized in the future but not now with a Nexus device. I do my research sir. I work in the "mobile technology" industry. My research comes straight from the source.
[Nexus 6  General] dsmitty166:
Sorry for coming across as rude. Long day.

Anyways I was getting at the point that you said bloatware does not come from Sim card activation. Regardless if they opt out or not, it is still very possible to do. Thus the original comment of coming from a Sim card is plausible. If or if not, it's added that way, only time will tell.

:good:
[Nexus 6  General] TMYINC:
No worries. I understand. When I said that bloatware is always preinstalled and not installed after activating the sim I meant that AT&T always has and continues to preinstall it. I should have been more clear on that. I agree that it is plausible in the future for them to change their minds on this and utilize this new feature but as of now (by what I am told) they aren't doing it with the Nexus 6. I believe the worst AT&T apps we are going to see on the Nexus 6 is myatt app and their device help app. Things change so it could all be different by tomorrow lol.
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
I was getting my info from here, it says confirmed by a couple resources, I know, it can still be wrong information and we won't know till one is in hand.

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/11/12/att-nexus-6-carrier-bloatware/
[Nexus 6  General] dsmitty166:
Well hopefully my phone ships tomorrow and we can find out soon!
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
Google released kitkat in late 2013. At&t released kitkat for the note 2 in July of 2014. Google has released lollipop recently. If the play store nexus devices don't have it already, they will soon. There isn't even a rumor as to when at&t will push lollipop out to the note 2. I hope at&t is more TIMELY about allowing updates to the nexus 6 devices purchased through their store. My understanding is that nexus devices purchased from Google get their updates very rapidly. How confident are you that at&t will do likewise?

-Peter
[Nexus 6  General] TMYINC:
I work tomorrow so I'll get ahold of my AT&T rep and see if anything has changed. Like I said...it could always be different by tomorrow lol. Last time I spoke with him was Tuesday midday so my info may be outdated. I've never paid much attention to that website but all they or I can do is speculate until one is activated.
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
Sounds good, would like to solve the curiosity lol. Thanks.
[Nexus 6  General] TMYINC:
Yes curiosity is a killer lol. Also if anyone is on a 2 GB or 6 GB make sure you are on the newest one. 2GB plan is actually 3GB for the same price and 6GB dropped in price by $10 I believe. :)

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Well I decided to call my rep now because I was curious too. It seems AT&T had opted out of this until the last minute. That's the bad news. The good news (possibly good) is that these apps will be installed onto the data partition and will be able to be uninstalled instead of only having the option to disable them. The information he gave me was from last week and he was just updated on the new information yesterday. So my apologies for the outdated information at first. He didn't think it was going to change. It was a last minute decision on AT&T's part.
[Nexus 6  General] moopile:
In line with what Slashgear and Gizmodo reported AT&T said Wednesday. http://gizmodo.com/at-t-will-muddy-up-your-nexus-6-with-bloatware-1657796686
[Nexus 6  General] h0bnail:
Yeah, I was in a store last week, and they dropped my 6GB plan from $80 to $70.
[Nexus 6  General] 2phonejones:
Don't know if someone mentioned this already but, I went to at&t tuesday and the guy let me pre order and it will be at the store next friday (21st i believe)!!!!
[Nexus 6  General] Plexicle:
FWIW, and this probably doesn't mean anything, both of my pre-orders changed to "Preparing to Ship" yesterday.

Some general info:

I pre-ordered two Nexus 6 (on two different lines) via AT&T Premier.

I opted for the Next 12 plan for both.

I ordered them literally a couple minutes after going live on the website. If I recall, it was at about 11:40PM EST or so on Tuesday.
[Nexus 6  General] caspersfi:
I pre-ordered mine yesterday in almost the same way around 5pm eastern time. Just now checked now and it also says "preparing to ship". Shipping date 11/18-11/19.
[Nexus 6  General] phab3k:
I pre-ordered min within minutes of it going live, been a customer of AT&T for years, still sitting at

Preorder Processing

Expected Ship Date: 11/14/2014 To 11/18/2014

but I did get a text on wednesday saying that my order had been processed and that I would receive a notification when it ships
[Nexus 6  General] bryancotton84:
Mine just updated to preparing to ship... Why do they do this when its expected to ship in another 4 or 5 days?
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
i preordered about 45 minutes in, and mine says:

so i'd say your early diligence paid off if you get yours a few days before i get mine :)

-peter
[Nexus 6  General] jamezr:
I just checked MyUPS and it said delivery on 11/19
[Nexus 6  General] luar949:
Same here, ordered mine last night and got the preparing to ship notice, I hope they ship sooner
[Nexus 6  General] sfidelisrp:
When did you get this? You have a tracking number already? Is this from a ATT preorder or a Google Play/Moto preorder? Everyone here is talking about ATT preorders.
[Nexus 6  General] jamezr:
This from an AT&T pre-order
[Nexus 6  General] sfidelisrp:
Well damn! When did you place your preorder? Did you get your tracking number from your order status on the ATT site?
[Nexus 6  General] jamezr:
nothing from AT&T...order still says preparing to ship on 11/18 or 11/19
[Nexus 6  General] bryancotton84:
Yea my myups isn't showing anything yet. With 2 day shipping I figure Monday is shipping day.
[Nexus 6  General] sfidelisrp:
Then how you get it to show up on MyUPS? Damn, I feel like I'm interrogating you or something. Ha
[Nexus 6  General] jamezr:
i just looked...and there it was........i was surprised!
[Nexus 6  General] sfidelisrp:
Cool. I'll just have to keep my eye on that.
[Nexus 6  General] kkl0wn:
Are these being drop shipped from Google's warehouse in Kentucky!? That could be a good sign!
[Nexus 6  General] caspersfi:
Hell yeah I'm in West Virginia!
[Nexus 6  General] kkl0wn:
I'm on the other side of the country, California.

What are the chances well see the factory Nexus 6 box with an AT&T nano Sim card inside!?
[Nexus 6  General] tonyfiore75:
Mine still says:

Preorder Processing

Expected Ship Date: 11/18/2014 To 11/19/2014

I hope that's not a bad sign. I ordered on Wednesday morning. I'm in NYC.
[Nexus 6  General] MattMJB0188:
Does anybody know if AT&T will modify the nexus 6 in any way? Let me be clear. They always take out the network mode option on all of their android devices, I am just curious if they'll do the same with their version of the N6? Do all versions have the same modem, or does AT&T and T-Mobile optimize it for their networks? I know they do with the Galaxy devices.
[Nexus 6  General] Neverendingxsin:
Hoping they'll add the 64GB version to the store soon, I know right now I could live with 32GB but having 64GB would be nice.
[Nexus 6  General] ddrwizard:
mine currently says:

Tracking Number:

The tracking number is the number associated with an item in your order that is being shipped. Click the tracking number to go to the carrier's site.

Pending Shipment

Carrier:

Shipping Date:

11/14/14 - 11/18/14*

Quantity: 1

I ordered mine at 8:05 pm PST hoping that it would be up because of eastern time and it was!

Thanks for placing your order. We estimate your item will ship on or between the dates provided.
[Nexus 6  General] kkl0wn:
Hoping mine is in the first batch. I ordered mine about 9:10 PST but shipping says between 11/18/14 - 11/19/14.

Was having trouble trying to order on my Nexus 7 tablet. Or would have been done before the 1200 EST start time.
[Nexus 6  General] Baldilocks:
Yeah, not sure how they determine when and who to ship to first. I placed my order at 12:07AM the night that they were available and mine is still processing.

I think it's pretty much luck of the draw.
[Nexus 6  General] caspersfi:
Yeah good point. Seems like no matter when we've placed our order, all shipments dates (or most IDK) are 11/18-11/19.
[Nexus 6  General] ncraigtrn:
I spoke with device fulfillment this evening because an online rep told me 5-7 day shipping from the 18th or 19th and I flipped out a little. So he told me to call device fulfillment.

I called waited on hold for fourty minutes. I had a very good conversation. The nice lady told me that they were getting all the devices ready for shipping and that they were overnight shipping. I asked fro! Where and she said from Texas. She said to expect my device 20th/21st.

Keeping my fingers crossed
[Nexus 6  General] TMYINC:
Did an order for a customer today. Shipping estimate was 24 hours. Did it before noon so I received an email that it was shipping out today. Ours are overnighted but the weekend is coming up so expected delivery date is Monday the 17th. Not much faster than everyone else's preorder but that's why I always say order through your local AT&T. :)
[Nexus 6  General] 3's&7's:
I'm considering canceling my pre-order now after reading this. I feel like this type of performance challenge is what drove me away from the LG G3. The slower read speed was probably a thermal concern with the 2k screen temp.

Thinking moto x...I really just wanted a nice update to the N5. Not a portable entertainment room.
[Nexus 6  General] Baldilocks:
I just watched two new reviews today that say this is the snappiest phone they have ever used.

I think people are overreacting.
[Nexus 6  General] BTow1105:
My bank statement no longer shows a pending charge for the tax on my Nexus 6 order. For some reason, its just gone and I got the money back in my account. The order still shows up on the AT&T site as if nothing changed. Ugh... hopefully it'll re-charge it once it ships.
[Nexus 6  General] bryancotton84:
Yep... Mine too....
[Nexus 6  General] caspersfi:
^^This^^

So many comparison threads, discussions, reviews. Every device is gonna have there pros and cons. IMO it's obviously just YOUR personal preference on what device you want at this time that matters the most.
[Nexus 6  General] mejori:
they only do a pre-authorization ..once it "ships" they will charge you the tax.. i dealt with this last month when i ordered a phone. same thing this time with my nexus 6 (preoreder pending 11/18-11/19)
[Nexus 6  General] h0bnail:
They charged me for the phone and tax immediately, but not the upgrade fee.
[Nexus 6  General] femmyade2001:
sorry if this was asked before, but was anyone able to pre-order from AT&T off-contract? Darn thing keeps defaulting to "contract price" but i just want to pay full price. No more contracts!
[Nexus 6  General] BTow1105:
Yeah I did the NEXT 18 plan. Did you mean buying it for full retail up front?
[Nexus 6  General] bigbiff:
They told me they don't sell new devices off contract for 30 days after the release. I ended up doing NEXT 12 instead to keep my $25 discount per month and pay it off in 12 months.
[Nexus 6  General] femmyade2001:
Thanks guys.
[Nexus 6  General] MWilkenson:
If I have grandfathered unlimited data and my contract is up, is next even a possibility without losing unlimited?
[Nexus 6  General] kyan~:
Guys there is NO DIFFERENCE between retail price and AT&T Next. Next is literally 0% interest of device broken in 20/24/30 payments. sales tax of device is paid up front. you can pay remaining entire balance after you make 2 initial monthly installments.
[Nexus 6  General] TMYINC:
Yes it is possible. PM me if you have any questions about it.
[Nexus 6  General] indoz:
Yes you can join the Next program and keep your unlimited data. I'm using Next and they let me keep mine
[Nexus 6  General] TMYINC:
I was thinking you only had to wait till the next billing cycle to pay it off. Main reason as it takes it a billing cycle for the installments to be attached to your bill.
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
Just ordered mine using the next program, paid $51 in tax and it ships on the 18th
[Nexus 6  General] kyan~:
i'm only going off from my internal documents regarding early balance pay off. It specifically said 2 initial payments. maybe you can pay once it shows up on your account, however.
[Nexus 6  General] TMYINC:
I may have to double check just to be clear. I don't want to give out wrong info. I thought I had someone pay theirs off after 30 days but it could have been longer.
[Nexus 6  General] adlzian:
Maybe a dumb question but if I was wanting to switch to AT&T from Verizon...do they accept trade in phones like say a note 3 from Verizon? But specifically meaning if the contract was not completed with verizon and me having to owe an ETF?
[Nexus 6  General] TMYINC:
Trade in for the most part would go towards in store credit at most retailers. If you port your number from VZW and are eligible for the next program right away and do it, AT&T will give you a $150 credit after 45 days for switching. Kind of AT&T's buyout program. The trade in of the note 3 wouldn't cover the sales tax if preordering the device but would if the device is in stock at the location. It would also go towards accessories and such. Check AT&T's website to see if they are still taking trade ins in exchange for gift cards. I know the did it for the iPhone launch but not sure if its still going on or not. And if you do switch to AT&T you will be making a great choice!
[Nexus 6  General] gsmm0n:
Logo

Am I the only one who just noticed that the AT&T logo will be on our phones? See the back picture here: https://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/devices/moto-nexus-6.jsp

Very disappointing, makes me fear bloatware big time
[Nexus 6  General] mp5cartman:
Well, that sucks. There is already enough circles on the back, as for bloat its already confirmed that it will be installed automatically on initial setup but can be removed easily. Now I am really hoping they don't do that hideous orange box packaging they do with the galaxy notes! If they do I'm returning or selling that s*** and buying from google or moto since 32GB and blue is not my original choice.
[Nexus 6  General] kkl0wn:
Good eye. I did not notice it until now. Doesn't bother me that much. I just looked and realized it's on the back of my Note 2 as well. I've had it for years and forgot all about it so I'm not concerned.
[Nexus 6  General] phab3k:
well... That about makes me want to cancel my pre-order and just stick with my 1+1
[Nexus 6  General] caspersfi:
That sucks but Eff it. I just want the damn phone already. ?

My wife and I went to AT&T yesterday and she upgraded her LG G2 to the Note 4. She loves it. It's a sick device. Not really noticing any major differences between hers and my N3. My local AT&T store won't even be carrying the Nexus 6. Too small of a store or something like that.

Still can't wait for my N6. Logo or not....
[Nexus 6  General] moopile:
I won't be able to see it with my cover on.
[Nexus 6  General] caspersfi:
Tru. Also seeing some nice covers out there already.
[Nexus 6  General] lethalboy:
Bloatware, att logo.. what's next? Orange boxes, locked bootloader? Lol.. glad I ordered it from GPS.
[Nexus 6  General] MWilkenson:
Do you mind if I ask about how much you're paying monthly?
[Nexus 6  General] caspersfi:
Lol yeah. I don't care if the box is 3 ft tall, pink with purple poka dots and smells like ass. As long as I can open it up and throw ROMS, Kernels, and Themes all over that phone I'll be good.

Upgraded yesterday from the 10gb plan to the 30gb on the Next plan also. Makes losing the 32gigs of tunes I have on my Note 3 alot easier. I'll just stream.

Pandora, Slacker, Tune in Radio, ESPN Radio......
[Nexus 6  General] bryancotton84:
Has there been any update or change on your myups?
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
Lol same here. Bloat can be killed, I don't look at the back of my phone, so I don't care what's on it. Getting rid of stock and making it mine is all that matters.
[Nexus 6  General] Pyros2008:
Sorry if this has already been answered, but is it confirmed whether or not this will be locked?

Thanks!
[Nexus 6  General] caspersfi:
It hasn't been confirmed. I've read plenty of guys saying here that if it is that it shouldn't be an issue.
[Nexus 6  General] Pyros2008:
OK, thanks!

I've been torn between the Note 4 and Nexus 6. The fact that the Note still isn't rooted and considering once Android L is released it'll put things back to square one, the Nexus is my device.
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
Still expecting them to rip out Qi capability for PMA since AT&T is deeply in bed with the PMA Wireless "standard". They already did it with the AT&T version of the G3 and one of their Nokia phones.

I still wonder who is worse at times, them or Verizon.
[Nexus 6  General] micl9:
I am assuming (hoping) that Google didn't let them do that as that would create a major hdw variant.

I returned the G3 bc of this as I am deeply in bed with qi ;)
[Nexus 6  General] luar949:
Freaken AT&T for putting that logo! went ahead and ordered a skin https://dbrand.com/ have no choice now, i personally hate it, should of kept my Google play order, oh well easy fix i guess.
[Nexus 6  General] HCdroid:
Kinda strange about the logo situation...members have posted their at&t phone being shipped directly from Google's warehouse in Kentucky. Shame on Goggle if they agreed to this.
[Nexus 6  General] Liferules:
I seriously doubt they will have AT&T badging. I believe that a graphic artist just added it to the website image.
[Nexus 6  General] pc747:
(as posted earlier) https://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/devices/moto-nexus-6.jsp#fbid=KF_-2tw8DyD

I hope you are right but right now I am expecting the worse. And if AT&T is doing this you know Verizon will.
[Nexus 6  General] MadHatter01:
Any shipping updates? Mine still says pending shipment.
[Nexus 6  General] 20degrees:
^ The reason the phone has a bigger top bezel than the bottom is because Verizon requested it. They said they needed it for the check mark logo.

G3
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
Mine says it processed and shipping 18th or 19th
[Nexus 6  General] kinfolk248:
lmao
[Nexus 6  General] freebee269:
Also heard a rumor the at&t variant will be Sim locked. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised.
[Nexus 6  General] cundiffr:
I'm buying off contract. I just don't want to go through the backorder game on google play for third year in a row. Even though I never had to wait more than a week. That's only if its released around the time google sells it
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
I would be more worried for you guys if they did this to the Nexus 6 on AT&T http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/18/lg-g3-pma-wireless-charging-att-qi/
[Nexus 6  General] jbaysingar:
I don't trust AT&T not to mess with the N6.

I had an AT&T Nexus S, and, while it didn't have any carrier bloatware, it had a custom build of 2.3.4 that disabled stock features like wi-fi tethering that AT&T wanted to force people to pay for. And despite being a "Nexus" phone, it never received a single OS update. - no 2.3.6, no 4.0.4, no 4.1.1, and no 4.1.2. If the full ROMs & update files weren't available online (thanks to the fact that Canadian carrier Rodgers used the same model of the Nexus S as AT&T), it would have stayed stuck on a crippled version of 2.3.4.

So when it came time to upgrade to an N4, I made sure to buy directly from the Google Play store, and I plan to do the same with the N6. The $15/month "off-contract" discount doesn't quite make up for the difference in price, but, for me, it's worth the extra money to ensure that AT&T doesn't interfere with my features & updates.
[Nexus 6  General] jonnydopemsr:
I may know someone who works for an AT&T authorized retailer and if he can get his hands on the device early I'm sure he will let me know if there is bloatware on it or not. I'll try to report back about that. 2. There are only 2 nexus 6 models in a sense. The USA model and the rest of the world model. With this info it should be the same phone from the play store if you buy it from AT&T, T-Mobile or Verizon and etc. So if that's true then the phone from any carrier should have an unlockable bootloader.
[Nexus 6  General] eep2378:
Interesting new APN for AT&T in new lollipop image
[Nexus 6  General] Bjray:
Interesting indeed. What are the values?
[Nexus 6  General] daraj:
This APN is been out for a while. As a matter of fact i have it right now on my LG G2 which got pushed through an OTA.
[Nexus 6  General] jeffreii:
So let's say worst case scenario, AT&T locks the bootloader and loads it up with bloatware...absolutely cripples the device from our standpoint...

Since it's the same model for all of the US...if someone figures out how to unlock the bootloader...then you can simply flash the pure Google ROM and live in bliss? Would anything prevent that? It seems like the only annoyance would be the possible requirement to sideload your own AT&T modem updates rather than receiving them automatically.

I absolutely will not use an inferior Nexus 6 with AT&T bloatware and slower updates...but if there's a way to sidestep that and receive the on-contract price, saving about $400, then I would be interested in that. Many people say they won't sign a contract but I have absolutely no intention of leaving AT&T, having been with them for most of my life, and NOT using a contract to save $400 is a waste as well. Granted, I could also buy the Nexus 6 at full price, buy an AT&T iPhone 6 on contract, then sell the iPhone 6 on eBay to make my money back...
[Nexus 6  General] eep2378:
This is all personal preference but either way, in the end, your still spending the money. Especially with a new two yr contract where you pay $40/month for smartphone access, compared to $15 if you buy it off contract. So over two year contract term your're paying ($600) more for the on contract phone vs off contract.

You could also use the "next" plan and get the phone no money down, then just pay it off over a few months. That way you avoid paying the higher fee and you're still contract free.
[Nexus 6  General] Nigel Tufnel:
I'm wondering if Google will have the factory images up soon after it comes out. If so, can't we just install the factory image and wipe off the AT&T crapware and boot animation off the phone if it's installed.

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This is what I'm afraid of. I'm almost positive AT&T will mess with Android. Unless somehow they managed to negotiate a deal like Apple and let the updates come from Google.
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
Do you think the att version will be released the same day as google play?
[Nexus 6  General] jeffreii:
I'm still on the normal shared family plan, with no intention to switch to the value plan, so upgrading does not change my monthly fee.
[Nexus 6  General] aawshads:
ok, thank you, that answers my question. I am off contract now, and have never seen a price decrease, so I was trying to figure out if they had screwed me over or what.