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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BACARDILIMON:
From t mobile they not gonna carry the 64gb so they say now. So I would have to pay full price. The no SD card is a deal breaker. They need to change this.

NOTE 4
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] getbuzzin:
$650 for the nexus 6, no thanks. No regret pre ordering the note 4.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobprobert:
i gotta say i am seriously considering returning my note 4 and getting the nexus. i got the nexus 5 coming from sprint note 2 and it was just too small for me, but i really liked the phone itself. i ended up getting a note 3 and loved it. the upgrade to the note 4 doesn't blow me away. it just doesn't feel like a new phone to me, more like my note 3 since the screen is the same size. that 6 inch screen and a whole new version of android however will make me feel justified for spending the extra money.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
I'm used to paying the full price but had an idea what you meant.. I think Google implemented sdcard restrictions starting in 4.4KK for security reasons so perhaps they saw sdcards problematic from the beginning of Nexus line but Android L5 encrypts everything by default now & even Samsung allows sdcard encryption in the Note4 right so why not offer it? However is connecting to your PC to transfer & manage local storage along with cloud services for less sensitive data that unmanageable?

The non-removable battery is also limiting even in the context of rapid charging when traveling & not sure how long its battery is expected to function well beyond the initial years. My Note2 will still have an easily replaceable battery indefinitely..

I have a feeling the Nexus 6 is going to be consistently-satisfyingly snappier than the Note4 out of the box but that should be tweakable if user is prepared to put in the time..:rolleyes: & even offer a better full screen multimedia experience while the Note4 has its Spen & multitasking strengths.

Honestly I think Apple & even Google prefer faster product lifecycles so they rather not offer easy user serviceability forcing more device replacement sales..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bruce lee roy:
This sucks! If it weren't for the s pen this would be easy.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chipworkz:
I was seriously considering going from the Note 3 to Note 4 but wanted to hold off until it was out for a bit and see what it was like when the dust settled. Now I am not so sure and want to wait to see how the Nexus 6 plays out. The S Pen is nice but I really don't use it that often. I use my Note 3 more like a normal phone so a Nexus device that performs better with better sound may be a better fit for me.

We will see...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] glensta:
Boy this looks tempting and I already have the Note 4 in hand. Hmmmm, return policy? Jump prgrm? Options. Gotta test drive the 4 for a few more and get a good gut feeling from it, I'll go from there
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BACARDILIMON:
Nexus don't have 4k? You sure. I read different

NOTE 4
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BACARDILIMON:
Nexus 6 specs http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-6-specs

NOTE 4
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
Not sure Google Nexus 6 vs Samsung Galaxy Note 4: in-depth specs comparison is totally accurate at this point but worth a look.

Even after the Note 4 gets http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0 , from day one I'd use those dual front facing stereo speakers & extra .26" screen more regularly than the Spen (& I'd still keep my Note2 with Spen when need be) but want to see reviews & have both in the hand. Note 5 will now more likely score dual front facing speakers & get a bigger approaching 6" screen & 64 bit chip with at least 4GB RAM capable of capturing high frame rate slow mo video with its audio intact & other goodies now that Apple, Motorola, LG & others are going after that market.

For those considering returning the Note4 check with where you purchased it for return window as some may only be 14 days while others 30 days to test drive & within 30 days you may get that chance to try them side by side. When I bought my Note2 full price from T-Mobile.com I was told I had 30 days but I think BestBuy for example may only accept such returns for 14 days & perhaps some T-Mobile stores so worth knowing your options.

Let us know how it all goes & your ultimate decision process:good:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iunlock:
Hmmm I could be mistaken.

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Indeed, my mistake. Thanks for clarifying that.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dkotoric:
also nexus 6 has a samsung amoled display not ips

Sent from my Note 4
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TechBSwift:
The biggest point everyone is missing..... Nexus 6 will have a an amazing amount of developers due to the fact there's only 1 model Nexus 6 for Verizon, Sprint, Att, T-Mobile, etc. We will be able to use all roms and all bootloaders will be unlockable.... The only unlocked bootloader for the Note 4 is T-Mobile....
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Virusbetax:
first off nothing comes close to the design of the note 4. plus the bonus added in features which will never be present on the stock nexus 6. on top of that the phone is huge you cant even put in your pocket. whats the point then of it being a phone when you literally have to carry it in your hand all the time? after having both nexus 4 and nexus 5 i can confidently say that they have way more issues in production. I bought both nexus devices and both were returned due too major manufacture flaws such as patchy spots on screen, flickering, battery fail, and even the accessories i received for both devices looked like they went through a sand grinder . Nexus devices are nothing compared to this premium device. even the iPhone 6 plus doesn't compare. I have both and asked my friends at work which they prefer and they immediately said the note 4. in the end the note 4 is 20 times better in style, comfortably of use, and feature wise. And the nexus developers are different for sprint since its a whole different device with different radios. And to be honest i think the price tag will definitely turn away a lot of developers. in the end the note 4 will also get stock android but difference is you have the choice of touch-wiz and stock android.

And the unlocked boot loader doesn't matter unless your swapping kernels. the previous locked notes received safestrap. personally i think the only real reason to root the device is to remove bloat and your all set its snappy enough. even then developers are already getting there hands on this beast of a device, while you have to basically wait a month and half to get the nexus 6 which will sell out and be backordered for weeks adding on another 2 weeks for you to recieve it.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TechBSwift:
when it comes to performace touchwiz is garbage. all the futures you speak of thats so amazing, most people dont use. if the bootloaders for sprint, verizon and att were unlockable then i would agree the note 4 would be the better choice, but the chance of the bootloaders getting unlocked is zero to none.. the note 3 bootloaders where never unlocked(exclude tmobile), we had to use safe strap and the king(hashcode) has left xda. the pure android experience with unlocked bootloaders allow the devs to create magic. to support my theory, go ask your samsung friends how many of them use nova launcher or another launcher instead of touchwiz. i has a note 2, note 3, s4, s5, and was getting a note 4 until i realized development will be slow without hashcode. i have a iphone 6 plus right now, selling it soon while getting and nexus 6 and a note edge to develop on.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NWNJ:
I am also coming from a Note 2 and love the idea that this has an unlocked bootloader and a 6 inch screen, along with the front speakers. I am on Verizon, only because Tmobile has zero service in my area. I think this is the phone for me. Thanks for the information.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bruce lee roy:
Suck that nexus isn't out yet. I'm dying here using this og android, having sold the note2 for the 4.... anyone know when nexus is expected to launch?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chong67:
I have no regret getting the Note 4. I love it. I like the s-pen. Yes, its a mono speaker but the speaker is loud. I come from a HTC One M7 with dual front speakers.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Virusbetax:
My only reason for all the complaining is due to my bad experiences with nexus devices in the past.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
It seems they put more thought into creating a unique high end experience device this time but that will have to be proven in reviews. Past nexus' always lost in my side by side in the actual hand tests so it will be interesting to see how the Nexus 6 holds up in a few weeks to the current champ Note4..:victory: I don't think the Google announcement a couple days before the Note4 official launch Friday is coincidental however as they likely expect to persuade such a reconsideration.;)

[IMG="Size comparison I just found looks good to me but look forward to actually feeling it in the hand"]http://phandroid.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Nexus-6-vs-iPhone-6-Plus.jpg[/IMG]

Ref Link: http://phandroid.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Nexus-6-vs-iPhone-6-Plus.jpg
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kronium:
The Nexus 6 is also water resistant!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
Nexus 6 vs Samsung Galaxy Note 4 – phablet comparison

I just got Note4 & https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_6_64GB_Midnight_Blue?id=nexus_6_blue_64gb :cool:;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fn8OnzDO5Y

[YOUTUBE]watch?v=5Fn8OnzDO5Y[/YOUTUBE]
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bruce lee roy:
Nexus 6 looks pretty wet- cross between galaxy nexus and nexus s. If I hadn't grown so dependent on note utility, I would have so much fun with that phone.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
I was surprised to find that comparison video already but I wish they did some comparison indoors as well. Surprisingly the Nexus 6 screen looked a bit brighter at times than the Note 4 but with less punchy colors & contrast yet look forward to seeing more. When the screen is off black bezel phones look larger (as do white rears so I'd likely opt for the darker Nexus6) so a Black Note 4 may have been a better comparison than that Gold Note 4 that breaks the color continuity more but the size difference was not as dramatic as some expressed. The video also seemed to suggest that the Nexus 6 camera produced images with more true to life colors & performed better in low light due to dual led flash even if the resolution is 13MP vs 16MP. While he said the larger screen on the Nexus6 was better for videos he didn't address the dual front facing speakers vs rear strained mono Note 4 speaker in the short video. I'm not the only one who has an issue with the Note4 speaker obviously even this reviewer at http://www.pcworld.com/article/2833...ally-listens-to-its-fans-and-it-pays-off.html calls it out "I’m still annoyed that Samsung chose to beef up every other part of the phone, but won’t opt for front-facing stereo speakers. I hope you have a nice pair of earbuds or a Bluetooth speaker to pair with this thing, because anything you listen with the phone's pitiful rear speaker sounds tinny" but I'll check out the Note 4 again of course to see if I could live with its speaker compared to my Note2 with its acceptable solid speaker in the same location. There aren't any Nexus 6 cases like the Note 4 available yet but I expect something along the lines of http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00N3VHD6C/ will be among the first available ones soon that hopefully won't add much bulk (though that one looks a bit star treky-space age on the back, the Nexus 6 case may look somewhat different there with its larger logo-frame) :good::cool:

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/nexus-...uy-note-4-anymore-samsung-should-be-terrified was a bold article but still rather presumptuous..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sprintuser1977:
Mad? I have been smiling for 2 days with my awesome 4!

From the BadAss Note 4

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S-pen features and camera won me over Nexus

From the BadAss Note 4
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nick2k:
Currently in Mountain View with a Google employee... Held the N6. The Note 4 feels much better (and lighter). And I have a microSD and a pen in mine. Lols
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TechnRom:
Not to mention watching some movies on VR soon.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
Come on the 5.96" Nexus 6 is ~4 grams more than my T-Mobile 5.55" Note2 & ~8 gm more than the 5.7" Note 4 but ~10 gm less than 6" Samsung Mega 2 (& ~20 grams less than the Samsung Mega 6.3" for those who have ever held that AT&T smartphone)..

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...y-Mega-2,Google-Nexus-6/phones/8577,8743,8626

Was the Nexus 6 in a case & how long did you hold it for? Did you get to spend any quality time with it or just enough to confirm a bias..;)

Video comparison (including speaker comparison) or it didn't happen;)..

Either way people should try to check it out for themselves when they get a chance..:cool:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nitemare3219:
I hope that N6 isn't at max brightness. That looks pitiful compared to the 6+.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] princeasi:
Owing the Note 4, I haven't felt a phone that felt this good in the hand since owning the nexus one!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adames123:
How about the multi window view and the pop up views compared to the nexus 6 and don't forget the fingerprint scanner
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
Although http://phandroid.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Nexus-6-vs-iPhone-6-Plus.jpg was likely done for size comparison purposes rather than screen brightness, I had the same concern but the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fn8OnzDO5Y seems to show it about as bright or even brighter at times (but somewhat less saturated) than the note 4: http://www.androidbeat.com/2014/09/displaymate-praises-galaxy-note4-amoled-display-performance

"On the brightness side, the Galaxy Note 4’s AMOLED display can go as bright as up to 400 nits in manual mode, which is comparable to displays of the same size. Under Automatic Brightness mode though, the Note 4’s display can reach a brightness level of up to 750 nits. Even the minimum brightness levels of the display is an impressively low 2 nits.

The Reflectance score of 4.8% indicates that the Note 4’s display will be clearly visible even under direct sunlight without the need for the user to squint their eyes."

[IMG="NEXUS 6 VS NOTE 4 OUTDOORS IN CARPHONE WAREHOUSE VIDEO"]http://i57.tinypic.com/2ltq983.jpg[/IMG]

http://i57.tinypic.com/2ltq983.jpg

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http://i61.tinypic.com/24grfhw.jpg

[IMG="NEXUS 6 OUTDOORS IN CARPHONE WAREHOUSE VIDEO"]http://i58.tinypic.com/jtxrf4.jpg[/IMG]

http://i58.tinypic.com/jtxrf4.jpg

Nexus 6 very bright indoors in blury unboxing video apparently done by a T-Mobile employee at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvgLNXfzQhw:

[IMG="NEXUS 6 VERY BRIGHT INDOORS IN UNBOXING VIDEO"]http://i59.tinypic.com/2gt66hy.jpg[/IMG]

http://i59.tinypic.com/2gt66hy.jpg

[YOUTUBE]watch?v=5Fn8OnzDO5Y[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]watch?v=dvgLNXfzQhw[/YOUTUBE]
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
I'll post more on the Note 4 (that I played around with tonight in black finally) vs Nexus 6 when I get a chance but more hands on were released today:

Camera color seems off but size comparison for the Galaxy Note 4, Nexus 6, and 2014 Moto X:

[IMG="Camera color seems off but size comparison for the Galaxy Note 4, Nexus 6, and 2014 Moto X."]http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Nexushandson-20.jpg[/IMG] http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Nexushandson-20.jpg from http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...nd-nexus-9-googles-shot-at-premium-flagships/

http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/21/7025853/google-nexus-6-hands-on-photos-video-android-phablet

"After watching Apple unapologetically release the gigantic iPhone 6 Plus and Samsung release the fourth iteration of its massive Galaxy Note, getting a 6-inch phone from Google seems almost par for the course...It actually feels really natural once you get used to the size...But the biggest thing (besides the screen, of course) to get excited about with the Nexus 6 is the camera. We'll obviously need to spend a lot more time with it to give it a proper review, but at first blush the 13-megapixel setup here is wildly better than last year's Nexus. The shutter is instant and the results — if only on this bright AMOLED screen — are really solid."

[YOUTUBE]watch?v=Gy8Md3Eky38[/YOUTUBE]

http://techcrunch.com/2014/10/21/hands-on-with-the-nexus-6-and-android-lollipop/

"I was worried that the Nexus 6 would feel absurdly huge in my hand… but it didn’t. Bigger than my Nexus 5, of course — but if you’re comfortable holding an iPhone 6 Plus, you’d be fine with the Nexus 6. The two devices are absurdly similar in their dimensions and overall heft in the hand; close your eyes, and you’d probably have a hard time figuring out which is which without poking around to find the buttons.

We only got to spend a bit of time with the Nexus 6’s 13 megapixel camera (we’ll give it a proper spin in a review in the coming weeks), but it seems like an instant and immediate improvement over all Nexus prior. It boots quickly, and the shot-to-shot shutter speed seems as snappy as you could hope for."
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GoyoNeuff:
No bias please...

I am inclined towards the Note 4 T-Mobile. I am not a power user nor a developer (although I am always tinkering with my gadgets) , but really enjoy the simplicity and cleanliness of my wife's Nexus 5 without all the garbage Operators put in their phones. Now that we know the T-Mobile version has the bootloader unlocked and we can remove a bunch of stuff "bloatware" from the Note 4, which phone to choose?:confused:

Cheers.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lazaro17:
I've owned a lot of nexus phones and a very big fan of the product line. With that said I think Samsung does phablets at the moment better than anyone else. On my note 3 I flashed x-note only to be surprised that I actually missed TouchWiz. The implementation of the S-pen along with multi window features are very nice. With the Nexus 6 I'm afraid I'm gonna have that same feeling I did with stock android on Note 3 that I'm just using a big phone. With touchwiz on the note 4 I feel like I'm using something different...a phablet.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GoyoNeuff:
Thank you very much for the honest opinion... !

G.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bruce lee roy:
Agreed. Think they should have included a stylus with N6 to make it more competitive.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hello00:
or a 128gb of storage to compete with the iphone 6..64gb is a joke nowadays..considering the 4k videos take a lot of space..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boodies:
Personally, I don't think this is a fair comparison. The Note 4 just offers so much more. And a lot of that stuff is something I really utilize in my day to day operations. I also believe the Note 4 has better hardware as well. List goes on. But to each their own.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reo420510:
note4

I'll take the note 4 over that any day
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
I'll post more about some interesting features of the Nexus 6 when I get a chance but posted a Note4 look-feel & speaker impression update at:

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-tmobile...-sdcard-os-restrictions-t2905715#post56246883
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bajasur:
Walked into tmo store yesterday and either the sales guy was confused or.....? He said nexus 6 will be in stores on Wednesday 10/29 in 32 gb model and online only in 64 gb.

Hopefully that's true
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yakuzahi:
Well he was confused like all t-mobile customer support.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chada618:
why not just wait for AOSP roms for the note 4.. that way you get all the hardware benefits of the note 4 PLUS the beautiful animations and overall smoothness of lollipop.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nitemare3219:
That's what I'm hoping for, but people are saying it probably won't be bug-free. Plus I'm wondering if the camera will work as well, or if the S-Pen will be hacked to work at all.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] monkeypaws:
Switching to aosp from twiz will leave the spen useless as well as any other framework specific benefits from touchwiz. Never understand why people buy a non stock phone to root and out stock on it. Aside from build quality I guess.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SMARTPHONEPC:
I called a local T-Mobile store tonight & was told they expect the Nexus 6 in store on November 12 (2 weeks from tomorrow).

Since preorders start in hours at https://play.google.com/store/devices , I'd expect reviews (including Note 4 Vs Nexus 6 reviews) even before November 12 & possibly in the coming days (perhaps even tomorrow if any Non-Disclosure Agreements are no longer in effect for those who may already have the Nexus 6)..:good::cool:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hello00:
i think the note 4 is better in every aspect except getting quick updates and the smoothness
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iunlock:
I agree....also if one goes with a custom ROM, no big worries on any updates. :good:

I couldn't sleep at night having an inferior phone. (<--...had I had...If I had...it seems as if some people don't understand the point here LOL.) As harsh as it sounds, people need to realize that the Note 4 is on top of the Nexus 6. Not the other way around. ;)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bajasur:
I agree the specs seem a bit higher end, and someone brought up the good point that you can just wait for aosp roms to drop for the note 4, thus defeating the purpose of getting a nexus.

Maybe I am just intrigued by this a nexus device though, I have had every Samsung device since the S3 and really want to start developing on stock Android versus tw.

Decisions decisions decisions!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wase4711:
honestly, man, you couldn't sleep at night if your phone was inferior??????