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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nosmohtac:
Thanks for the heads-up! It's like carrier IQ all over again! Although you can't uninstall DT_IGNITE, you can disable it

http://www.tmonews.com/2014/12/t-mo...e-malware-installing-apps-without-permission/

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I can't believe TMOBILE is pushing an app that installs unwanted apps on customers phones after just bragging about not bloating up the Nexus 6
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mircury:
You will get OTA's from t-mobile as long as you are stock and unrooted no matter what carrier you are on. The lollipop ota's are different in that they patch the image on the phone only if the crc checksum matches. If it's been altered in any way then the crc check will fail and no OTA. Most custom roms remove the ota update service. OTA's have never depended on what sim card is in the phone as the update servers are preprogrammed in the individual carrier roms.

Previously ota's preformed crc checks on the individual files not the system image. That is why you could take an ota if you were rooted and you might keep root or lose it depending on what changed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tbong777:
I agree and I am in no rush for Lollipop. When the developer gets it and makes it work I will flash it. From what I have seen I can wait
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ShrekOpher:
CM 12 first unofficial alpha build dropped for the Note 4 last night. It's got bugs, but IL be leaving TW once it hits stable.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Pick_A_Name:
I used L on my Oppo Find 7a for a few weeks. The dev had it very stable very quick. There was nothing about it that made me go "wow". Also I have to many Samsung functions I use to go to aosp on the note. Just my 2¢.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tbong777:
I Have not used Touch Wiz since the Captivate. I run NOVA on every device. The problem with CM is drivers for Samsungs hardware. Plus Samsung does have some good 'bloat" I don't know what people see in CM. I tried it a few tmes. Had a Nexus 7 s well. Preferred Samsung. But at least we have choices with then 910T.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Pick_A_Name:
Agreed. I never use TW launcher. I used to used CM on my old Inspire, but since the N2 I've used done form of debloated TW. Well I did use an aosp ROM on my Oppo Find because the original OS was so bad, but that was a short stint waiting for the N4 to arrive. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Limeybastard:
Correct. Except my wife was the other way around. She couldn't update her att note 3 as she was on t mobile network. Even kies wouldn't update it. Had to use a AT&T Sim card.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ShrekOpher:
Just download the updates from Sammobile and flash via Odin. Upgrade done.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Limeybastard:
Good job ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TheFletch:
Possibly a non-issue

It's been a couple of weeks now and my TM Note 4 on AT&T hasn't lost LTE once, cross my fingers.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spycedtx:
I hope this is the right "official tmobile phone on at&t" thread.

I finally got my tmobile edge, sparkling clean. I've read through various threads and am now a tad confused.

I do not have, nor have I ever had, tmobile service. It appears I can just insert my att sim and be good to go. The notion of carrier/regional locking it by not using tmobile for a 5 min call seems to not be an issue. What makes it a non-issue is getting unlock codes (cellunlocker.net seems to be the champ) will remove those locks as well as unlock the bootloader.

Before I go popping in my sim and causing undue problems, is there an authoritative voice on the absolute correct steps vs the rain dance steps?

Thanks for your help!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jlczl:
2 things: I don't know if anyone has tried this with the Note Edge. I and many others have done this with the regular Note 4. Second, cellunlocker does not unlock the bootloader. It SIM unlocks the phone for use on other networks. The bootloader is already unlocked on the T-Mobile version (regular Note, not sure about the Edge).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] chodaboy19:
AT&T released VoLTE in some states: http://www.engadget.com/2014/12/10/att-expands-voice-over-lte/

Would we need specific AT&T firmware or basebands for this to work with our T-Mobile versions on AT&T network?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Pick_A_Name:
I believe the Tmo version didn't have the band that AT&T uses for this. But I do know that both phones would have to be able to use VoLTE for it to work, so it probably won't be used much for another generation of. devices.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] imold:
What to do with TMobile update message?

I've had my TMobile Note 4 for a few days now and keep getting update notice from Tmobile. Is there a way to turn this off, it pops up 8-10 times a day. I'm afraid I'll acidentally start it.

I think I read earlier in this tread someone had actually updated on ATT sim, might of been on another tread, can't find it now. This doesn't seem possible, has anyone tried it?

Thanks, imold
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jlczl:
Take the update. It doesn't hurt anything except install a couple of programs people dislike like " DTignite" or something. I just disabled it. I only took the update because it was annoying and I haven't had a chance to root and ROM yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] relaxlong:
Got the Tmobile note 4 few days ago, unlocked it to use under AT&T. Constant drop call or out of services error. Never have this problem with my note 3. Don't know what to do at this point beside sell it back on ebay or craiglist. I love everything about the phone. Any tips would be appreciated.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jlczl:
Where did you get it? It must be a defective device. Since you're just a few days into it you should be able to return it and get a replacement.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mircury:
I don't think it would need specific AT&T firmware or basebands. As long as tmobile has updated the note 4 to support VoLTE, it should work. VoLTE is a standard used by carriers and cell equipment makers all over the world. If AT&T hasn't done something to specifically break it then it should work. What I do know is that it does NOT require any special band that the tmo note 4 doesn't have. You just need to be able to get LTE.

VoLTE works the same way as voice over 2g and 3g works. Years back when you would make a call, data would fall back to 2g because voice could only go over 2g. Right now, data falls back to 3g if you don't have VoLTE when you make a call. This works seamlessly whether you have a Tmobile or ATT branded phone on the ATT network. VoLTE should work the same. You should fall back to LTE when you make a call. In the future, when we move past LTE for data, calls should continue to fall back to LTE until voice over "the next big thing" is announced.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] fcb1:
I took the update and had no problems. It's safe
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ShrekOpher:
Make sure you are using a good apn. Also you may need a new Sim card from AT&T.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spinedoc:
Hey guys, just got my Tmobile Note 4 for use on AT&T, I wish I had done this from the beginning. Rooted it, ahh that feels so good.

Had a question about the APN settings and such. I just popped in my AT&T Sim and the phone seemed to work ok. Just to be safe I called ATT and gave them the IMEI number, they set it up and made sure LTE worked. Now everything seems to work fine, messaging works, data works, I'm getting LTE, calls seem to be fine, etc etc.

My question is, should I mess around with the APN settings, or just leave well enough alone? Has anyone else just popped in their AT&T sim and not changed the APN settings and been good to go?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] MattMJB0188:
You SHOULD NOT have given AT&T the IMEI from your T-Mobile Note 4. This has been said time after time. You'll probably have issues soon with LTE not working. I give it a few days.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] LouK:
If these are the settings you should be good to go.

Name:*ATT Phone

APN: phone

Proxy: Not set

Port:*Not set

Username:*Not set

Password:*Not set

Server:*Not set

MMSC: http://mmsc.mobile.att.net

MMS Proxy: proxy.mobile.att.net

MMS port: 80

MCC: 310

MNC: 410

Authentication type:*None

APN type: default,mms,supl,hipri

APN protocol: IPv4

APN roaming protocol: IPv4

Bearer: Unspecified

Mobile Virtual network operator: Not set

But as the previous reply said there have been reports of problems in that their Tmo N4's have been provisioned incorrectly as BlackBerry's with No LTE Service they only get HSPDA+

Can you check online in your At&t account to see what phone they have listed for you and report back?

It may well be that At&t has fixed the problem.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spinedoc:
Yep those are my settings. I never realized ATT could set them up remotely. Everything is working perfectly and I'm loving being able to root again. For some reason the Tmobile version seems much faster and less leggy than the ATT one.

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Anyone with the Tmobile one on ATT network getting weird text messages. I keep getting a text message from +1121611611 saying "122 Error Invalid Number. Please re-send using a valid 10- digit mobile number or valid short code. 0605040710000041637469766174653A64743D3135"

Sometimes I'll get that text 2 or 3 times, usually after a reboot. Anyone know?

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Never mind figured out that 122 error, it was Tmobile's visual voicemail. I disabled it and rebooted without the text message so far.

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This isn't valid anymore, ATT just cares that you are on an account.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] LouK:
ATT Nextgenphone APN

So after I posted the the ATT Phone apn, my daughter came over with her ATT Note4!

I took a peek at her N4's apn.

They are as follows:

NAME: ATT Nextgenphone

APN: nxtgenphone

Proxy: not set

Port: not set

Username: not set

Password: not set

Server: not set

MMSC: http://mmsc.mobile.att.net

Multimedia message proxy: proxy.mobile.att.net

Multimedia message port: 80

MCC: 310

MNC: 410

APN type: default,mms,supl,fota,hipri

APN protocol: IPv4

APN roaming protocol: IPv4

Enable/disable: (Checked) Apn Enabled

Bearer: Unspecified

Mobile VPN Type: None

Mobile VPN: Not Set

[Note: I would leave out the FOTA in the APN Type]

I think this APN will provide Voice over LTE or as it's known VoLTE.

But if it's not yet turned on in your city & provisioned for it may not work anyway.

But you never know.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Scotsman828:
I gave away as a Christmas present the AT&T crapware loaded Note 4 that I bought retail price.

Bought the TMobile version, paid $30 for the unock code and did the region unlock.

When I booted Note 4 with SIM card, it immediately set up itself to the proper NET setting and LTE worked no problems.

Awesome firmware after I used a ROOT uninstaller to get rid of TMobile Apps, Carrier IQ, and some Samsung Apps that I'll never use.

Here are the steps to properly get your TMO version up and running without hassle:

1) Boot your phone, dial *#06# to get the IMEI # or you can get it from the box your phone came in.

2) Choose your prefered unlocking service and buy the network unlock code.

3) Put in SIM card, boot phone, enter unlock code.

4)After unlock code accepted, immediately put phone into Airplane Mode. We don't want the phone to set the NET data network up automatically yet.

5) Download this to root your phone. http://download.chainfire.eu/571/CF-Root1/CF-Auto-Root-trltetmo-trltetmo-smn910t.zip?retrieve_file=1

6) Then go here and follow directions to root your phone: http://xdaforums.com/note-4/orig-development/sm-n910-cf-auto-root-t2897428

7) Once you get root. Go here and download RegionLockAway. http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2370437&d=1383564029

8) Go to security setting and activate "Unknow Sources" and install RegionLockAway.apk, then run the app.

9) Now you can turn off Airplane Mode, your phone will automatically setup proper data settings and you will get LTE data.

10) Enjoy your awesome phone!

BTW here is the ROOT uninstaller that I used to get rid of apps that I didn't like. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] imold:
T-mobile on AT&T

Thanks Scotsman828, for posting that.

What if I got thru step 3 a while back and now want to root per this procedure. I've been using phone for couple of weeks now and it shows 4G.

Can I now proceed with step 4?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] theorioles33:
Damn! Just went to TMO to get a Note 4 and they all sold out. The girl there said they sold all 40 in one day. Kind of hard to believe. I bet more than half of those were AT&T customers. Lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gubbilo144:
I'm up and running at&t on my tmobile note4 and everything is working great. I had the tmobile note3 on at&t and was only getting 2 bars of lte in my house, now on at&t on the tmobile note4 I'm getting full bars. I also have the at&t note 4 version and the tmobile is working just the same in reception with now issues not better, the tmobile note 4 has the download booster and the at&t version does not come with the download booster which is odd.I'd have to say from using the tmobile note 3 on at&t all year to the note 4 on at&t network there seems to be a big difference. I'm a happy camper, I have root and unlocked bootloader and great reception and lte reception on the tmobile version. I'll definitely be buying the note edge on tmobile as well to use with at&t.Anyone know when the gear s watch is being released? If anyone needs unlock service, I used unlock unit from the play store and celluarunlock.net for my code.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] done12many2:
This is exactly what I experienced. My T-Mobile Note 3 was just not nearly as good on AT&T's network as the AT&T Note 3.

The T-Mobile Note 4 is definitely a whole different story and I'm glad I took the chance. The Download Booster, unlocked bootloader and Wireless Tether unlocked (I'm on unlimited plan) out of the box were well worth it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] fabii25:
the t mobile version dont have 20bands and 26bands
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] McGragger:
Does WiFi calling work on Att using the T-Mobile variant?

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Where is that an issue? In USA?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] fabii25:
Yes
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mircury:
In android L we will get more support for wifi calling. I currently wifi call with the new hangouts. My main number is a google voice number though. Basically you cant use tmobiles wifi calling app on ATT.

I dont know what he's talking about. Band 20 and 26 aren't even used in the USA and are not on ATT's or Tmobiles note 4. You can do what I did and look at the fcc test report for the ATT version and see what frequencies it was tested on. The tmobile version supports all ATT frequencies.

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No. ATT doesn't use LTE or UMTS bands 20 or 26.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ronj1986:
I agree!!!! I'm hoping to pick up a T-mobile Note 4 this week:)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] McGragger:
How are you guys getting the T-Mobile version? Buying at full price and with a contract that you then cancel? How much does it cost to do that considering activation/cancelation fees, the month(s) you have to have the subscription, etc?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] pham818:
How did you unlock yours?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] edouble312:
this seller on ebay:

http://stores.ebay.com/theunlockingteam/

took a few days, but that's probably I requested the code right when the phone was delivered on Monday (it technically wasn't released until friday). It was $23 and worked perfectly.

head over to the note 4 t-mobile forum and there's more discussion on other sellers, some are faster/pricier:

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-tmobile/help/request-sim-card-unlocked-t2904322
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] alexnoalex:
According to AT&T Specs:

4G-LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17, 20, and 29

So it has extra 20 and 29 bands.

20 may be helpful if you travel in Europe a lot. It's very popular there.

To buy t-mobile at full price, you can choose 'Simple Choice No Credit Check' plan and cancel next day.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] McGragger:
How much money do you loose by canceling?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] alexnoalex:
Right now they seem to waive activation fee for 'no credit check simple choice'. So you only loose day or two worth of charges if you cancel quickly. $5 or so, I guess.

Other option is prepaid plan in which case you lose month worth money. But if you use prepaid form AT&,T you could just time it so you use t-mobile for a month instead of paying AT&T, then reactivate AT&T.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] sambrooke:
Can I assume if the service is good with att on this device, that I would get the same good service with straight talk and an att sim?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] done12many2:
Well guys and gals. The real test was confirmed today at work. In my office, I was getting LTE for almost the entire day. It's sad when I use my office as a standard for testing, but it's location combined with the construction of the building put AT&T's signal to the test.

I get a every new Samsung flagship when it releases and even strayed off the beaten path for a LG G3. The T-Mobile Note 4 is maintaining the absolute best LTE/voice signal I've had to date at work.

My LG G3 would drop cellular signal to the point of unusable and my AT&T Galaxy S5/Note 3 maintained 4G well, but hardly ever got LTE in the office. The T-Mobile Note 4 only switch from LTE to 4G a few times today for brief periods.

Outstanding data/voice performance and my phone is actually usable in its entirety at work now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Yakuzahi:
nvm
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mircury:
Yup sambrooke, straight talk will work just as well.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ElAguila:
For those using the t-mobile version did you just put your sim card in and start it up? Or did you have to go to AT&T and have them activate it? Did you have to create a new apn?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gubbilo144:
You have to use an sim unlock service to get the code. I used unlockunit from the play store and celluarunlock.net works ,put your att sim in the tmobile phone, then put the code you received in and your unlocked ready to go using att service on the tmobile note 4 my att apn just showed up without manually adding it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ElAguila:
Thanks for clarifying that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] fcb1:
And don't actually take the phone to AT&T or they could cut off lte I heard
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] deeken:
I'm concerned who you would turn to if your tmobile phone had issues and needed to get it addressed. You can't go to att and tmobile voided it after you got it unlocked. Do you have to go through Samsung in that case? If so those guys are a PIA to deal with.

I can't believe these are the lengths people are going through to get this phone rooted with an unlocked bootloader. If I was to do this I was thinking about buying the phone from ATT then ebaying it. Then using the profits to buy the tmobile variant. But it just seems like such a hassle.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] madmike23:
Thanks all- for testing the Tmobile variant on AT&T network. I have one question for ya...

Can you surf the internet while on a call? I surprisingly use this feature often at my desk. And probably the only reason I'm still with AT&T. This would be the deciding factor for me getting a Tmobile variant. Thanks! :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] done12many2:
I just confirmed that data (internet) works during active calls. Data switches from LTE to HSPA during the call, but is by no means slow. Immediately after ending the call, data returns to LTE. Hope that helps.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] muzzy996:
Well I've had my Nexus 4 since release day (approx 2 years) and haven't had any issues that I couldn't address myself so IMO going with a T-Mobile device and perhaps getting a squaretrade policy on it is all i need to cover myself.

Not sure how selling an AT&T model relates to buying a T-Mobile one . . . Here's the way I view my options as a current subscriber of AT&T Mobileshare on a 30GB plan (keeping in mind I currently get the mobileshare value discount of $25 for my line since I brought my own device):

Option 1 - Buy Note 4 outright from AT&T and receive discount on mobileshare monthly plan = $826 for phone up front, no change in monthly payments.

Option 2 - Note 4 on 2 year contract = $300 + 24mo x $25 penalty for loss of mobileshare value discount = $300 upfront, $900 for phone after 2 years, monthly payments go up by $25.

Option 3 - Note 4 on AT&T Next 12 = $0 + 20mo x $41.30 = $0 upfront, $826 for phone after 2 years, monthly payments go up by $41.30.

Option 4 - Note 4 on AT&T Next 18 = $0 + 24mo x $34.42 = $0 upfront, $826 for phone after 2 years, monthly payments go up by $34.42.

Option 5 - Note 4 on T-Mobile Simple Choice no credit check plan, 1GB @ $50/mo cancelled after 40 days = $810 due today + $50 for month 2 = $860 upfront, no change in monthly AT&T bill​

Hook or crook I'm paying AT&T $826 or more for the phone as I have no intention of leaving the AT&T network due to coverage in my area of interest. The way I see it I'm paying about $40 for the ability to root the phone not only right now but for the life of the phone.

As has been mentioned the issue isn't just root itself but the bootloader and so for those wanting root it really is something to consider knowing that an update to Android L is coming in the next six months. Rooting 4.4 is one thing but having to find another exploit for 5.0 is another, at least with the T-Mobile variant there's the ability to install any custom ROM due to the unlocked bootloader.

The only downside I see personally with the T-Mobile route is either waiting for my unlock code from T-Mobile after 40 days or paying a 3rd party to give it to me earlier. I don't travel internationally though I may at some point but I'm not going to let 1 or 2 potential trips abroad dictate what phone I get to use for the next 2 years.

In the end value is subjective. If $900 up front is a hard pill to swallow for someone then the natural reaction to the logic outlined above is going to be disbelief. For those who can easily afford it and who place a greater value on having a rooted device the upfront cost is negligible.

I'm leaning heavily towards going the T-Mobile purchase route but haven't jumped on it yet because my Nexus 4 is doing just fine and I'm curious to see how things play out a little more with regards to issues/bugs etc.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] alexnoalex:
On my T-Mobile Note 3, I also can't change voice mail number and set forwarding.

I tried it with Cricket sim. It just failed. But worked fine with at&t phone.

Keep that in mind.

Also, if AT&T ever enters imei from non AT&T device in your account, like if you replace sim card, you'll probably lose LTE.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] done12many2:
I changed my voicemail number to my Google Voicemail. If you were in a situation where you needed a new SIM from AT&T (I've never had it happen), you'd easily be able to register a valid IMEI. This has been covered well.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] kaysond:
I'm in the same boat right now. Don't forget that you also have to pay $25 or so to get the tmobile one unlocked. You're also leaving out tax, which is going to make a big difference since the cost of your plan isn't taxed. Ultimately it's hard for me to say no to a $200 gift card from best buy for the $300 option and since my plan only changes $15/mo its cheaper than the $825