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[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
Twitter handle, forum name, they are all the same, this just makes people have to look for a real name if they are that nosey.
[Nexus 6  General] TheGeeZus:
That was disappointing really that AT&T reserves the right to ignore the MSRP.

Yes, I will be preordering this friday with AT&T Next 20 (The store that I will go is a less populate store as many people think that the whole building it just a corporate office of AT&T [Customer Care employee I am]), but raising the price for 33.99 it just a little discouraging.

Nevertheless at least I got some piece with my mind as AT&T keep silent for too long.
[Nexus 6  General] con_ritmo:
32gb only would be an absolute deal-breaker. grumble. guess there's no choice but to pony up for full-price options then.
[Nexus 6  General] djkinetic:
att has almost never decided to carry higher gb models unless its for an iPhone, reason being their retail stores generally never see the demand for them, as hard as it to believe this community is the minority of users/customer base out there.
[Nexus 6  General] LiquidHonesty:
Luckily for me I don't care about it only have 32GB, my Nexus 5 was 32 and I never ran out of space. On my Note 4 I have all my apps and am using like 15GB.

FWIW: I keep all my music on an old phone of mine, I don't want to be using my $650 phone at the gym as an mp3 player. I've seen guys drop weights and crush their phones by mistake. :(

So, for me, it's let work buy it from AT&T and get it free, or pay $649/699 and buy it myself.......no brainer :)
[Nexus 6  General] gtalum:
I doubt they had a choice. It seems that all the carriers will have only the 32 GB Blue in stock at first.
[Nexus 6  General] slickromeo:
Alright folks, if you want the 64GB variant on AT&T, here's what you do. #1 get the discounted 32gb variant Nexus6 from AT&T. #2, don't open the box, leave it brand new, and sell it full price. Step #3, use the cash from the sale towards the cost of the 64GB variant Nexus6 directly from the Google Play Store. and #4, Enjoy.
[Nexus 6  General] mp5cartman:
That's what I plan to do but probably can't resist on using it lol. Really disappointed with google, I don't understand why carriers only get blue 32GB? I need a white 64gb GOOGLE atleast let me buy it somewhere jeez.
[Nexus 6  General] con_ritmo:
i've considered this...question...with the nexus6 coming with the nanosim card and all...if you were to order it online, wouldn't it ship with the nanosim included and tied to your account?

if so whoever purchased the phone from you...on first bootup it would register their phone to your phone number?

iow shouldn't you open the box and take out the sim card (if it's there) first before selling?
[Nexus 6  General] LiquidHonesty:
I know from a business standpoint, we have to also go to a link to activate, just powering it on won't do it.

Still though, I'd want to pull the SIM, so yeah, you'd have to open to box. :(
[Nexus 6  General] Liferules:
Anyone confirmed with AT&T that the preorders will only be the 32 GB variety? Don't want to waste my time refreshing the website if there is no chance of getting the enigmatic 64GB variety...
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
Confirmed through twitter with AT&T, will only offer 32gb. Not just preorder but at all.
[Nexus 6  General] GHOSTIVVI:
I'll be buying an iPhone 6 with my upgrade (trust me, I can resist opening it) selling it NIB and using the money to buy n6 from play store (if it ever stays in stock)
[Nexus 6  General] oastjc:
For those of you planning to get the Nexus 6 thru ATT with contract. Wouldnt your monthly rate goes up to 40 as opposed to 15?

I want the Nexus 6, but I am not quite sure how I should get it...I do want to get it for 249 thru ATT. But it seems like I have to get it thru play store to not have my monthly rate goes up to 40.$
[Nexus 6  General] Bjray:
Yeah but it also goes down $25 because you "own" the device.
[Nexus 6  General] dsmitty166:
Your monthly rate change depends on your plan.

The new mobile share plans are where the discounts are. If you have a 10gb or higher, and you own the device (no Contract) or on next, you get a $25 per month per line credit.

If you have a 8gb or lower, and you own the device (no Contract) or on next, you get a $15 per month per line credit.

If you buy on contract you are paying way more in the end. $249+$600+(25*24months)+$40 activation =$890.

Or

$249+$360+(15*24months)+$40 activation =$649 (but now you're stuck for 2 years)

Purchase with next man, and pay it off early if you want.

Now if you are on the old plans, before the mobile share, your bill won't go up, you just have to pay activation.

Make sense
[Nexus 6  General] bholyk:
On AT&T's next program you don't get the phone for the $250 contract price. So it will be:

$512.25($683/24*18 months) + $270(18 months*$15) = $782.25

I chose 18 months because that is when you are available for upgrade on the 18 month next program, where you turn in your phone and pick which you want to get next. There is no activation fee but there is tax, which I did not include able. But if you look at tax you also have to include tax on the $250 if you choose to go the contract route

If you do the full 24 months to pay it off:

$683 + $360 = $1043

So using next is like leasing a car, it is only good if you want to keep it a short time to get the next new best thing as soon as it is avaible...and i always do!!!
[Nexus 6  General] dsmitty166:
You get a credit to your account for being on next as well man.

Next is the retail price divided into your chosen plan.

So if you did next 24 (which is actually 30 payments) it's $22.70 *30 =$681

But then you also still get the $15 or $25 credit to your mobile share plan account.

So if you are on contract now say, your bill could actually go down $3 if you are on the 10 gig plan, just by joining next
[Nexus 6  General] bholyk:
My bad, I didnt realize you were doing it for the 30 month plan, sorry about that. I have only ever really looked at the 12 month because that is the longest I have ever had a phone. Carry on.
[Nexus 6  General] dsmitty166:
Well it doesn't matter, anyway you look at it, you still divide retail price into # of months (20 24 or 30) for the 12 18 and 24 month next.

You can get the Nexus 6 in Midnight Blue for $0 down with AT&T Next for $22.77 per month with AT&T Next 24,2 $28.46 per month with AT&T Next 183 or $34.15 per month with AT&T Next 12.3 You can also purchase Nexus 6 for $249.99 with a two-year agreement4 or $682.99 with no annual commitment.5 - See more at: http://about.att.com/story/att_anno...ndroid_5_0_lollipop.html#sthash.OhEhYCrD.dpuf

SO...

the next 24 comes to 22.77*30 =683.10

the next 18 comes to 28.45*24 =682.80

the next 12 comes to 34.15*20 =683.00
[Nexus 6  General] bholyk:
Totally agree. I just didnt understand what "$249+$360+(15*24months)+$40 activation =$649 (but now you're stuck for 2 years) " was in the original post. Maybe I just misunderstood.
[Nexus 6  General] dsmitty166:
That was pricing if you bought the device on contract.

$249+$360+(15*24months)+$40 activation =$649

This is the credit that you no longer receive for being off contract or on NEXT.
[Nexus 6  General] ekerbuddyeker:
I'm still confused here. I'm already on att and I can get the next program which would take me off my current contract . I can also just buy the device in full from Motorola and stay on my current contract. Which is the better option (putting aside the fact that I want 64gb white,)
[Nexus 6  General] dsmitty166:
IF you are on the new mobile share plans, anyway you can be off contract is beneficial. NEXT or bring your own device.

ATT is like $30 more than Motorola, but it really doesn't matter which way you go. Motorola also adds financing if you have good credit.

However, like I said, if you are on the new plans, getting off contract is better for you.
[Nexus 6  General] bholyk:
I think that is why I was confused, since you don't get that discount once you are on contract. Because since you are on contract it is $40*24 months. There is no discount, even for 10 gigs, if you are on contract. You have to be on the next program for any type of discount, right?
[Nexus 6  General] dsmitty166:
Yep, next or off contact.

You are right, the device fee is $40 on contract.

I was just adding the credit you lost :)

Device fee off contract or on next is $15 on 10 Gig or more plan and $25 on 8GB or less

Make sense??
[Nexus 6  General] bholyk:
Makes complete sense! haha. Sorry about my confusion. Cell phone companies change everything so frequently I just wanted to make sure that I was still up to date on things and that there wasn't a new way for me to give AT&T less money. (I cherish those opportunities) Now I just can't wait to get my hands on this damn phone.
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
It's up now!
[Nexus 6  General] Namuh:
Confirmed. It's live I went all the way through until add to cart. You can only get it in 32GB Midnight blue however. My search for a white 64GB will have to wait....
[Nexus 6  General] JoeJags:
Ordered.......Mine says will ship by 11/18......
[Nexus 6  General] fleadog99:
I just pre ordered. Used my wifes upgrade. Now she gets my LG G3. Shes always grabbing it out of my hand to use the camera anyway.
[Nexus 6  General] phab3k:
just ordered mine with next 12, finally after 4 years of off contract, I "renewed"
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
Glad I could help make everyone's night lol. I hit refresh just for the heck of it and there it was!
[Nexus 6  General] tonyfiore75:
Yup. I made a ditch effort to check the page before I went to sleep. Low and behold the "Coming Soon" page was updated with a Pre-Order page. I just finished ordering mine. Expected to ship on or around 11/18. Sigh! I mean, I kind of wanted the 64GB model but it's not necessary. I just need to be more intelligent when it comes to what I NEED to keep on my phone at all times. After all, in the grand scheme of things 32 GB is a decent amount of space.
[Nexus 6  General] hollowlog:
Damn, it's not on the Premier site
[Nexus 6  General] con_ritmo:
forget it, can't seem to upgrade without switching out of my unlimited data plan. at least not online. oh well.
[Nexus 6  General] Fanaticalism:
Hmm... it let me keep my plan just forced me to do next even though I have an upgrade which I mentioned I'll just change to a 2yr after the fact
[Nexus 6  General] phatboypat:
I was able to no problem. Several times it gave the option to skip plan changes to keep current data plan.

I'll be checking my plan after I get the phone anyway. When I returned my G3 a month ago the guy in the store screwed up and moved me to a capped plan. Took about 30 minutes on the phone but they changed it back.
[Nexus 6  General] phab3k:
I ordered mine off the premier site, it takes you there automatically.
[Nexus 6  General] hollowlog:
Sorry, I should have updated my post. I too was able to order it.
[Nexus 6  General] aznalan15:
I just ordered mine online through the premier store with no hitch. I believe I am saving myself $7 also going to a bundled unlimited data and messaging plan instead of having them separate.
[Nexus 6  General] con_ritmo:
oh well, checked again and still get:

"Nice choice! You'll need to update your current rate plan to support your selected device. Please select another plan."

:rolleyes:

it is coming from a 4g lte unlimited plan...through premier even though i have to enter from the normal site...it is from an uber old family plan that att hasn't offered in a really really really really really long time.
[Nexus 6  General] land2634:
I've been trying for over and hour to pre-order. There's some sort of error on my account preventing me from being able to do it online, and I've been through 4 reps now who keep "transferring" me to the "proper department". Each time, I'm simply booted from the system.
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
Does anyone know details on ordering the 64gb version?
[Nexus 6  General] aznalan15:
They are not selling the 64gb versions or white.
[Nexus 6  General] con_ritmo:
twice i've had my plan changed simply after talking to a phone rep for something completely unrelated...with no warning, and absolutely no consent given. the last time it happened it took about 3 hours on the phone to get my plan back...and the "supervisor" had to get creative to get the rate plan back...they had/didn't know how to get my original one. i vowed never to speak to a rep again. at the time it was explained to me that reps got commission based on whether they could get a customer to switch plans. oh well. looks like it's gonna be full price phones from here on out...unless that best buy "upgrade"/"keep plan" trick works.
[Nexus 6  General] mtucker:
Can't convince myself to hit the checkout button. Although I prefer white, I'd take blue if they had it in 64GB. My Nexus 5 (32GB) is still serving me well. If I get the 6, I really want 64GB. For $50 more, the extra 32GB would be so worth it. Could possibly pick up a 64GB in white tomorrow from the Play store then use an upgrade to buy an iPhone and sell as new. If I had some patience, I would just wait for the 64GB to sell on contract via Bestbuy or Amazon. Hmmmm just found this about Bestbuy (only shows $649 model so likely only a 32GB). http://qbking77.com/news/exclusive-best-buy-nexus-6-stock-nov-21st/
[Nexus 6  General] Namuh:
About what time does Google Play put the phones up for pre order on Google play Store on Wednesdays?
[Nexus 6  General] charesa39:
Around 10:05am Pacific Time. I would personally start refreshing at no later than 10am. At least, that's what I did last Wednesday and I succeeded, albeit, after 20 minutes of trying.
[Nexus 6  General] phab3k:
On my order status page. Ordered with Premier, has 2 day shipping.

Preorder Processing

Expected Ship Date: 11/14/2014 To 11/18/2014
[Nexus 6  General] Namuh:
Sweet thanks for the info! Fingers crossed!
[Nexus 6  General] charesa39:
Good luck! Persistence is key. I can't tell you how many times I saw the "unexpected error" when trying to checkout before it finally went through.
[Nexus 6  General] gharris040604:
I just can't pull the trigger! I need a proper review which has not happened, we keep getting these unboxing vids
[Nexus 6  General] Fanaticalism:
Hmm... for some reason mine says pending confirmation. Wonder what the hold up is.
[Nexus 6  General] Knight-Rider:
I'm assuming probably out of stock on preorders as Google did on release date and last week.
[Nexus 6  General] caspersfi:
My thoughts exactly. Mine is also expected to ship around the 18th. I would have rather had the 64gb but I've got plenty of space on Dropbox and Mediafire so it shouldn't be too much of a big deal.

Damn I can't wait to get my hands on this device.
[Nexus 6  General] fleadog99:
Just checked my order from last night to confirm everything went through. Indeed it did. It states it ships between 11/14 - 11/18. I hope earlier as I got excited about ordering my first Nexus (2nd Motorola) I forgot I am leaving on the 20th for Thanksgiving Holiday. I hope their are no delays.
[Nexus 6  General] bryancotton84:
Mine went from preorder processing last night to shipped by 11/18-11/19 this morning
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
Man that blows. I might have to get the note 4 if they will never get the 64gb version
[Nexus 6  General] dslreports:
Does anyone know if this version will be sim locked?
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
I'm leaning towards no, but after reading that article that says the ATT version will download bloatware upon activation, i wouldn't put it past AT&T at this point.
[Nexus 6  General] hollowlog:
The bloatware isn't a big deal to me. It's a mild inconvenience. The bloatware will be removable. No biggie.
[Nexus 6  General] Hardcore73:
I pre-ordered mine last night around 11:55pm. 32GB Midnight Blue will be mine soon!
[Nexus 6  General] dadymon53:
Just spoke to an employee at my local ATT corporate store. Nexus 6 will be available at the store on November 21, 2014!
[Nexus 6  General] esincho:
I'm waiting to make sure they didn't Jack with the bootloader or nothing
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
I believe that if they even messed with the BL then it would come with all the bloat already, why go to the extreme of locking it down and not load it with crap too.
[Nexus 6  General] caspersfi:
So are you saying you don't believe the BL will be locked? And if it is, do you think unlocking the BL would be an issue?

I keep reading guys saying it's a Nexus, if the BL comes locked thru AT&T that unlocking the BL won't be an issue.

I'm hoping that's tru......
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
It will have the stand lock, all of them do, even from moto and Google, you have to unlock it. I highly doubt that ATT went to the extreme of having that option blocked from the user, this is why it doesn't come preloaded with bloat, they didn't mess with the software, I believe they would have included all that if they went as far as locking it down.
[Nexus 6  General] caspersfi:
Thanks bro appreciate the info.
[Nexus 6  General] aznalan15:
Pretty sure with a big enough following there will be a toolkit to unlock the bootloader. Or just do it the old fashion way.
[Nexus 6  General] moopile:
Same for me.....
[Nexus 6  General] bstaruk:
The "Next Plan" is literally just 0% interest financing for your device. You pay the same price, but instead of having to pay it all up front (like through the Play Store) you get to pay it off over a couple years.

It also gives you the option of trading in the device in a year for something new, or paying the phone off and owning it forever (no extra cost for either option).

I think AT&T is actually providing a real service with the Next Plans, and you've got to be really dumb to trash talk it just because you don't understand what it's all about.
[Nexus 6  General] donatom3:
All the US models are the same. It's been mentioned that the phone will grab the basic carrier apps based on what carriers sim card it has in it. So your play store version would do the same thing as an AT&T version.
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
I understand that, I was trying to explain my belief on whether or not the BL would be locked by the provider. Thanks for chiming in though, it good to hear from more than one person.
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
Since we were concerned about what at&t might do to our preordered phones. ..,

the scuttlebutt over at t-mobile said that at least some n6'es would be in customer hands as of yesterday. Have there been any reports of brand scars or locked bootloaders?

On edit: never mind. Looks like tmo is off schedule.

-Peter
[Nexus 6  General] buxtor:
Same here. Can't wait to get out from under the Samsung lockdown!

Which root method did you guys recommend?

bux
[Nexus 6  General] JimmyHACK:
Phone is 1 model untouched y carriers (US). Will have normal nexus locked bootloader that you just oem unlock. Any carrier bloatware will be downloaded from the play store upon using that carriers sim and can be uninstalled easily.

Phones are all the same.
[Nexus 6  General] SilkyJohnson:
Let me clear up the bloatware alarm:

During the initial setup of lollipop, it gives you an option to restore your apps. If you tell it yes, it restores everything on your prior phone. So, if you had bloatware on your previous phone, it'll be installed from play store.

Solution? Tap the list where it shows how many apps you have. You can uncheck everything you don't want.

Source: did it last night with my N5
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
For your reading pleasure. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...premium-price-still-comes-with-compromises/1/
[Nexus 6  General] caspersfi:
Finally just now pre-ordered my Nexus thru the AT&T site. I'm freaking excited.

Off topic I guess but I'm seeing all these Note 4 vs N6 comparisons and some negatively towards the N6. In my case, I've never owned a Nexus before, also I've had a locked down Note 3 for the past year. T-Mobile isn't an option for me in my area. Lucky that we had a few fantastic Devs, but nothing like what I'm expecting too see here with the N6. Just in the shear number of ROMS. Assuming there isn't issues with a locked bootloader but I've been reading some people say it shouldn't be an issue if it needs unlocked.

So for me the N6 is any easy choice. Cant wait till development starts.

Sorry for off topic here just a few thoughts.
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
Going to be about a month for me, waiting for my Xmas bonus from work so I can buy the 64gb N6, then sell my Note 3.
[Nexus 6  General] 98HTTR91:
Ordering mine tomorrow on Next. Giving them back my Note 3. Without bri315317 and DynamicRom, the past year would have been miserable. Can't wait to get back to an unlocked bootloader and true Rom support without Safestrap.
[Nexus 6  General] caspersfi:
Yeah, I'll probably wish I would have done the same thing. Definitely gonna be putting my Dropbox account to more work. Now how I'll be using and what I'll be doing with the 20gigs of music I have on my Note 3 now, I'm weighting different options.

---------- Post added at 04:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:23 PM ----------

Without a doubt Bri made my time with the N3 a lot better one.
[Nexus 6  General] mk92595:
You guys have to deal with bloat

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2014/11/atts-nexus-6-will-come-preloaded-with-bloatware/
[Nexus 6  General] caspersfi:
The apps can be easily uninstalled. Just will take few minutes.
[Nexus 6  General] dsmitty166:
You're right. But it takes 2 minutes to get ride of it so its not a big deal at all
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
then we're back to the real issue:

will we be at at&t's mercy for updates? or will we get them as google releases them like we want?

-peter
[Nexus 6  General] kkl0wn:
Well worth the $400 discount on a new contract.
[Nexus 6  General] land2634:
Also, I'll be surprised if they're actually preloaded rather than automatically installed when an AT&T sim is inserted.
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
imho, not if at&t gets to decide WHEN and IF we get our updates. if those decisions are in at&t's hands, my pre-ordered n6 is for sale.

-peter
[Nexus 6  General] EniGmA1987:
It is a Nexus, you should never be at a carriers mercy for updates because you can flash the latest OS from all sorts of dev's. There is always one or two totally stock official OS builds around if you really must have that, dont know why you would though.
[Nexus 6  General] gparmar76:
<sigh> the bootloader is NEVER unlocked...regardless of which nexus you bought....BUT, unlocking it was always a very very easy process and google didn't really care if you broke the phone...they still replaced it under warranty for the most part....no Nexus will ship with that little combination lock logo on the bottom when they first boot the phone up.
[Nexus 6  General] pitmaster:
The att page doesn't list any bloatware unlike the note 4.......

Sent from my LG-D800 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
Because it doesn't come with it out of the box, you have to activate it then you get the gifts from AT&T.
[Nexus 6  General] TMYINC:
Bloatware is always preinstalled. Inserting a sim and activating the phone does not install the bloatware. Yes the Nexus 6 will have a few AT&T apps that can be easily removed but not as many as normal AT&T phones. Moto has done a good job of avoiding that... Moto X 2nd gen for example is pretty much pure AOSP. Seeings that the Nexus 6 is also Moto confirms my point. And if you do preorder your device...do it through an AT&T store. As proven by the iPhone 6 preorders, devices ordered through an AT&T retailer have higher priority and faster shipping times ;).
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
Guess we will see if it comes with it or after the activation.
[Nexus 6  General] dsmitty166:
Actually you're wrong.

A new feature of 5.0 is install of apps by the Sim card activation of carriers. This is how all the extra apps with be installed. Do some reading before you post please.

For example

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...r-crapware-automatically-which-is-good-maybe/
[Nexus 6  General] kkl0wn:
Don't know if I have ever waited for OTA updates. Always flashed as soon as they were available. I'm trusting that this will be a pure nexus device with tons of roms and support. At least I'm hoping!