yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mun_rus:
you should use OEM package for that
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] anichillus:
Did it occured to you ?

When I disconnect it from the computer and then connect it back...it gives me "USB Device not recognized" ... :confused:

I have to do a soft reset and then it works again.

Wireless and Internet passtrough works... so does

SK Tools (used it for "show network share under my device" ),

Spb Weather

Spb Pocket plus

BatteryStatus

Resco Explorer

Remote Desktop works great
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] anothersmith:
1)Not sure if it's the same in WM6 but you can try the registry settings the Molski has listed on his web at http://molski.biz/tweaks.html#54mbps You can use Total commander or Resco file explore with the registry plugin to access the registry.

In regards to the Tmo settings you should look at this thread it covers all the cabs in the tmo extended rom, you can probably cherry pic the few that will give you the conn settings. the thread is here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=272613 Further down is Prestons link to the the ext Rom here http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/MDA/
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] felipe_olguera:
lol are you saying something? lol
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] notyourdaddy:
wireless "g" worked for me out of the gate using wpa2. it was weird though. i put in my key and then it popped up wanting me to connect to another wifi. i clicked dismiss and then mine connected. the range seemed a little bit better than on the 3.3 rom i was using yesterday. could be just coincidence though.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] hiimcliff:
omg this rom is amazing. i was worried it was a little slow when it first started. but its running so smooth. minimal lag. lots of wm5 apps work. i'm in love. i used to get constant freezes on molski's 3.0.0.0 overclocked to 252. this version runs fine for me without over clocking. comes with windows live and voice command.

if u use zone alarm beware. installing the 4.5 active sync beta will screw up your zone alarm preferences. annoying to get it working again.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] AlanJC:
Hmm quite a few people have said how fast this is, and yet I experienced the exact opposite :/

All I had installed were Opera, iLauncher, and PocketBreeze at the time too. Bear in mind I run those same apps on my Universal running Crossbow, and there were no issues there.

Might give it another go.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Eximius:
Can someone send me te link to download this ROM?

Thnx allready
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] razielu:
Yes, please, if someone has a viable link, could they PM me?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ishra:
Is there a cab of the registry tweaks that are in the new faria/molski et al rom that we could apply to this rom? Is anyone working on an extended rom with stuff in for this rom?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] thefunkygibbon:
ok, i might be being thick. whats the difference between

WM5_AKU3.3_Crossbow_BETA_G4.zip

on the ftp and the orwell1984.rar one? is the first one a cooked version of the 2nd?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] AlanJC:
Well, the first is WM5 AKU3.3, the second is Crossbow itself.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] patek:
A 8 MB paging ROM

Dear Molski, Faria, Risidoro !

Could somebody cook a "30 MB free RAM" version from this ?

Thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] AirwolfUK:
Guys - you don't have to learn Italian to update your roms. Just extract the RUU update NoID from Molski's ROM dated June 2006 and you will have it all in english.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] vippie:
That would be great... but what rom are you talking about?

Molki's 2.26 2nd edition G4 was Italian

Molki's 2.26 3rd edition got the wrong installer, gave the error

Molki's 3.00 1st edition G4 was Italian

Can you give a link?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] cuboosh:
great success.. cingular on left tmobile on right.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] AirwolfUK:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard...a_AKU3.2-3000_3000_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2-G4.exe

just extract the files and copy over the ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe and overwrite the one that came with either the crossbow or faria ROM

thats all i did and it has worked both times
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] cuboosh:
well good morning to you too. i understand the disclaimer.. but u kno there has been some wild **** done to sites like that b4..so..
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] vippie:
Thank you very much. It does work, you don't need to copy all the other (Italian) files! If this installer works on G3 too there's no reason to keep 2 seperate installers as IPL/SPL is not included.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jonjoyner83:
Understood....no hard feelings. I have no intent to shutdown that site. I (personally) don't feel that any MS cronie is going to sift through this thread looking to jump on something like this. I didn't post a URL and there is no reference to a specific link...

I wish you would still come find me...I'm lonely and scared...:)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] zapster:
Sorry if this was covered early but does my G4 need to be CID unlocked to use this WM6 ROM?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] AlanJC:
Yes, as it does to use ANY rom, and as it tells you in the wiki, and pretty much every single rom upgrade thread.

Please, please, please will people just read the threads first, it doesn't take that long before you risk bricking your device.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Mahmood:
This rom rocks it is fast very nice UI interface and smooth. installed over 10 softwares and still have 20 MB and ebvery thing is going fine only the sound problem when u click the start menu button u don't have any sound !!!

does anyone know how to have registry tweaks for WM6 is it possible to use molskis and farias registry tweaks or not?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] hiimcliff:
auto install for extension rom doesn't work. grrrrrrrrr

no mms settings for me. i'm so upset
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jonjoyner83:
True...this thing is definitely not something you would want to run on for anything other than testing, etc.

AKU 3.3 ROM by Faria is MUCH better than this. If you really like the look, just install the Faria ROm, it looks the same.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] patek:
8 MB paging ROM

Faria,

can I make a 8 MB page ROM from this on the way you described in your tutorial ?

Thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
short asnser... no

this roms have diferent adresses....we are looking into it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] patek:
Thanks

Thanks

I am waiting for that, but it would be even better if you could do that for me :)))))
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] c4software:
hi,

anyone can send me the link on Pm?

thanks c4 :D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] DanITman:
Can someone PM me on this please?

Thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] imisim:
Actually if you want an extremely clean ROM which others have always wanted, this is the one. You then, can pick and choose what apps/customization will go with it to your liking. A lot of the tweaks and apps in the cooked/custom ROM can be had and installed by yourself. It will take more time to customize it but in the end you got the ROM which will work to your liking.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] cuboosh:
if u use the palm sms app u dont need the mms folder :P ...just some fyi
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] naboleo:
Edit : Wrong Thread
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Vilem:
This statement is Bull.... I've it now installed since yesterday. Everthings running perfectly, camera, mms, wifi etc. name it it's working.

The adresbook, phone and calendar functions are perfect.

If you want to use this phone for normal daily things, this is the ROM to try.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Synseer:
Ok i got ArcSoftMMS installed version 3.0.6.22 and i can even manually setup my MMS setting for tmobile. But I still can't seem to get the MMS folders to appear. I've tried a couple of .cabs floating around the site but still had no success. Anyone with any other insight on this.

Besides installing the Palm Sms App.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] da_jojo:
i agree

in the end as this wm6 rom is finalized like the 3.3 faria rom, it will be far superior to it.. hopefully this will have about the same appz on it but newer versions since there is a lot of beta stuff on it which i myself am not fond of to have this on a builtin rom.. running at the moment 3.5.0.0 rom chinese ported rom and this looks a bit completer allthough its not like wm6.

the main thing it misses is software and customisation which was being done by the company itself.. not to have this software is not really a problem.. as long as the driverfiles are there we're fine ... this way we wont have double appz for the same things.. i hope htc will come up with a wizard rom as so many have this phone and they know how hard we need it ^^
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ratcom:
same problem..... because its a new version of outlook its not adding the mms account correctly :(
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Dr Puttingham:
@Vilem - I agree, this is a bad ass ROM, nice and clean. A few tweaks like molski's two cabs, MS Voice 1.60, BatteryStatus and TodayAgenda plus a little cab that I wrote for my own customizations that copies smartskey, configures my batterystatus settings, my message options, themes, ringers and startclean and installs my Cingular GPRS settings and it smokes.

But then I'm a business user that uses direct push email and has no needs for MMS and such... but that's me :)

It's got potential..
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Synseer:
I did install a new version of AcrSoft MMS i think it was 3.5 something, and then the MMS folders came up, but then i could configure the server even with the reg edit.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Vilem:
Same here, bus.user, the wife uses MMS for showing me new things she wants to buy.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Vilem:
Try: ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blue Angel/ArcSoft_MMS_Composer_WWE_2.0.16.16.rar

......works.

trial and error.........
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ratcom:
thanks man... worked first time!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] navy2010:
Need some help w/ my memory

There's an app that change the softkey assignment, Im talking about the keys above the dial and end call. It's a free + small file to put in the system folder. I just can't remember the name of the program/file.

Thanks! Im sure many of you have better memory than me :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] crazyazn23:
can someone pm me a link for dl cr@$$&@#....... thankyou
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] SpiceWeasel:
I could use a PM of the link as well, thanks so much!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mikey411:
what is the password to unrar orwells1984.rar? :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] amarko5:
Bigbrother
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] amarko5:
goto settings / personal / sound and notifications. and tick the screen taps ;)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] davidw89:
No it isnt.

btw does this support O2 Xda Atom exec?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mikey411:
Thanks! :D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Dr Puttingham:
I'm using Molski's two performance and customization cabs along with my own and all is fine.

And THANK GOD Microsoft finally got smart and "silenced" that stupid "menupop" sound! First "official" ROM where I didn't have to install my "nosounds" cab... what an annoyance!

(I'm sure that's not the answer you wanted ... but that's the one you got ..... All Problems Solved..)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] acjunglist:
Crossbow for Wizard

Hi guys, the only Crossbow version I was able to find via bit-torrent was for the Universal (Which I don't think will work). Can someone PM me with the link for the Wizard version?

Thanks,

AC
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Synseer:
Yea I used ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Wizard/arcsoftmms.zip and then tmobile MMS settings cab from the extended rom. MMS works like a charm now.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] hiimcliff:
going back to a cooked rom. too many restrictions. i love this version a lot but i dont want to handicapped with it.

when official release is ready then ill reflash. i cant believe i messed up my master set up just to go back to it. grrrrrrrrrrr.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] anothersmith:
This is what you are looking for.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] dawg:
Hi guys, could someone pm me a link as well?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Vilem:
Yes it is Stupid. Don't come back with idiot answers if you don't know what the f..k they are talking about.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] AlanJC:
I have tried 3 different t-mobile UK and orange UK cab files for the settings. I know I could enter them manually, but I'm lazy, and like to store them on my SD card for the many many times I reflash and reconfigure things.

For some reason, the ones I have don't work on this build. Any ideas?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] AlanJC:
Doesn't actually work on Crossbow.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] xfaethorx:
bandwagon!

can someone please pm me a link to get ahold of this .
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] patek:
8 MB pagihg version

Any idea from somebody ?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] __s:
i've installed it, its version is 5.2.660 build 15341, any1 knows is it a beta or release?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] vippie:
Yes, someone knows
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ratcom:
Its a leaked version so I'd say its a beta.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] __s:
not neseserly. btw good stuff, but still no WPA2
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ADB100:
WPA2/AES is in the AKU 3.3 ROM from Faria, and it works :)

Andy
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] __s:
noway, u lying :)), again i must say "good job faria" :), but i cant afford my self to replace wm6 with faria rom, its too attractive
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] navy2010:
thanks! that's exactly what I'm looking for!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ADB100:
Not a good picture but you get the drift:

Andy
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] __s:
DAMN......
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] paypalbid:
everyone complaints about how crappy and unstable this ROM is but yet everything wanna try something new even though it sucks. makes no sense
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] cuboosh:
this rom is very stable and i love it.. i dunno why people r complaning about it..
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PostDeals:
the search button is your friend .learn then post.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] imisim:
Torrent, direct download, buggy or not... doesn't matter. You won't be able to use this ROM because it's not for your 8525.

You will love the html email if you can get your hand on it :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] JorgeGZC:
the search button is your friend .learn then post.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
the leaked version is not even beta it is only the very first test version....and no it wont be an official crossbow ROM for the wizard.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] JorgeGZC:
thanks , Faria
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] cellneuron:
If it is true, then crossbow is really amazing. The leaked version is already the best room so far. The HTML email, fast response, elegant interface and builtin smartdialing rocks.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Darkrift:
I agree, I have tried a few roms, and not counting the lack of addon programs, I think this rom is great. As ive said before, I can hardly believe its from microsoft. If this is the pre-beta, non chef-edited version, I think lots of ppl are going to be amazed when we see a newer version that has been worked on by a few rom cookers.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] daanno:
Could some one pm me the link for the rom?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
you wrong.....we had the ROM for months and we had to fix serious flaws like ,no SD card in explorer and no active sync working.etc...

and there is fully working version that i finished yesterday with camera.mms,java.flash,inteldialer etc etc,removed VOIP,catalogue etc etc....but as you know i cant release it for obvious reasons.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Mahmood:
see your mail
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] __s:
strange but i have all this working, a.sync via bt, sd, and all stuff. actually i didnt notice any probs with it. and btw all as u call addons u can install by urself
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] CLS_500:
this would be the best crossbow rom.. (thats wat my math tells me)

Crossbow + Faria = (it would be so increadiable that i dont know wat to write)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] rudiansen:
streaming rtsp

So far... so good … I noticed that HTC Streaming Media is missing from this ROM (like in aku3.3) . I tried to add on, see this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=288857&highlight=streaming+media+HTC but not luck. Question: is it me, or is a incompatibility ?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] thesystem:
can someone send me a pm with the dl-link too???

thx a lot, I searched the whole evening for this link...:(
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ishra:
Faria are you saying that you've had crossbow for ages and fixed loads of problems with it?

I think there might be a memory leak in this version?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] cuboosh:
im not noticing any kind of memory leak what so ever. i only have to soft reset every few days..
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
acording to most users here ther is a leek in every rom they try.....funny my seems very dry.:D :D :D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ishra:
There is no need to get cross about it. It was just an observation of the crossbow rom, which as far as I know is not yours?

I found your 3.3 not to leak. I believe in the past the leaks were caused by activesync.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] SiLeNtKiLLa:
Does or have anyone gotten this rom to work with T-Mobile MDA?? If so, can someone pm me the rom?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
man I'm not Cross it meant as a joke :D i edited the post. but still true .ehehe true the rom is not mine alone...but a did help fix it so all can enjoy it now.;)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] thedarkreaper:
i havn't found the wm6 rom for my qtek 9100.

somebody can help me ?

PM
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ishra:
I'm glad you did fix it :-) It is a fine rom, so fast.

So you've not experienced a leak with this rom? I tend to find by morning all the ram is gone. I think the problem is worse if i've done an activesync the evening before (via USB).

I don't want to start rumours, so I'll see if I can find out more.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] cyberdrakula:
New Thread for Internet Calling

There is a new thread for this. Please add what you have found or reseached about Internet Calling.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=290786
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] imisim:
Newly built/cooked ROM with camera + bugs fixed + add-on.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=290792

You can google for PDAVIET since I am not allow to post a link here unlike the Universal forum.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ultraprimeomega:
Thanks imisim
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
you may post a link .for info purposes of course...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ultraprimeomega:
Thanks faria for allowing. Could not find it
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] imisim:
Thanks Faria. I am repacking the file and uploading it to RS. It will take a while, then the link will be posted.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] internetadam4657:
ok guys, i got a theory here that may or may not work and i wanted to check here before i did it and possibly brick my phone. i have an 8125 g4 with the newest cingular rom currently. i have run cingulars update wizard and copied the update files/firmware into a new directory so i can keep it separate. if i replace the nk.nbf file in the cingular directory with the wm6 .nbf file could that flash it without the need to cid unlock?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] cuboosh:
dont dl the new rom.. keyboard errors and such.. they rushed it
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] beatnikjoe:
Snappy... this is working out very well indeed.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] felipe_olguera:
looking forwad to it sir.

wow, now thats something to look forward to.yesss. thanks sir your the best.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] cuboosh:
u could release it faria..just post it somewhere privately
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] thedarkreaper:
ive got an SPV m3000. somebody can help ? How i must do a cid unlock and is the pdaviet wm6 rom work on this pda.

thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Eluzion:
Anyone want to shoot me a PM with a link to download Crossbow? ;) Thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jocool:
Me too Please
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] gredmy:
Me too Please
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] rookery:
Also Here

I found one in http://www.demonoid.com/, but it don't include the raido...

some if some one can PM us a working and tested ROM would be great!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] McHale:
nope. none of them do. It overwrites the OS only.

-Mc
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Vilem:
I noticed a 2nd PDAVIET version on this site which posts junk (warez) for PPC's.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] McHale:
I'm holding off. PDAVIET doesn't seem to cook custom ROMS. The first one was the generic leaked ROM with a couple freeware apps preinstalled and some crazy reg patches.

I feel better knowing that I have a stock registry instead of one that someone who apparently doesn't have a full grasp on upgrading ROMS messed with.

I have the original leaked ROM installed and it's running great with only a couple patches (which I created a .cab for with WM5). I can do a hard reset and double click a .cab file and be back to where I am now. I'm OK with that.

There is *NO* advantage of using their "cooked" ROM over the generic. I like the ability to install the apps *I* want over what *THEY* want.

-Mc
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] grinny11:
the cooked rom is much faster than the generic. even when applying my own performance tweaks to the both roms..... the cooked one is still faster.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] papizdono:
if you set all the fixes and tunning params , the speed of their rom and yours will be the same... u just need to know what to set... if the OS is the same, they just tune up the registry...