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[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Yeah I ordered the sim free one too. I meant did you give a mobile number as a contact number?
[Nexus 6  General] superstevie:
Ah I see, yes I gave it as well. Did you order the 64gb one? I am wondering 32gb and 64gb can be the main reason.
[Nexus 6  General] :
64GB is delayed.

I would assume you bought the 32GB, is that right?
[Nexus 6  General] superstevie:
Yes I did.:)
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
I thought the 32gb was delayed as well as some people on here have had the text for that model
[Nexus 6  General] toString:
Anyone know if the phones are branded or locked to networks here? I'm getting one from Voda, but all the US AT&T/Verizon stuff kinda makes me a bit worried..
[Nexus 6  General] Super Chimp:
The impression I've got from my contact with CPW is it doesn't matter which version you've ordered that whatever release date it has will apply to either equally. That it's when you ordered it not which version you ordered as to when you'll receive it.
[Nexus 6  General] :
I see what you're saying but the questions I would have would be

1. Why did the dates on the CPW site not change at the same time to the same date for the 32GB and 64GB

2. Why does the 32GB keep coming back in to stock on GPS

3. Why are there so many more 64GB people saying that they got the texts

Now number 1 and 2 suggest to me that maybe there is more stock of 32GB or that not as many people ordered them or possibly even that Motorola only had stock issues with the 64GB versions

Number 3 could be explained by the fact that GPS is also selling the 32GB edition so some people didn't order through CPW

Truly I don't think we will know until people's order despatch emails start coming through unfortunately.
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Phones bought through cpw are normally carrier bloatware free and unlocked

Voda on the other hand normally lock theirs and install their own crap
[Nexus 6  General] gregbradley:
Stop!

Everyone take a breath, further arguing in the threads will result in infractions.

Sort your differences out via PM, not in the open forum. If you still cannot sort it out that way then report the posts/PM to to the moderators

Thread cleaned
[Nexus 6  General] Phantom Shadow:
From what I've read nexus's won't be coming with carrier bloat pre-installed, but will be installed from the play store on initial start up based on the sim in the phone. So even phones from CPW will have vodafone bloat on it if you turn it on with a vodafone sim card inside. Does mean it's easy to uninstall though, or do first boot with no sim inserted and the apps won't get installed.

I just hope vodafone don't try anything with the bootloader. Even if it does come with bloat pre-installed, as long as I can unlock the bootloader and flash ROMs/remove the bloat then I'm happy.
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Yeah that's a bummer

But then again how many of us are gonna be using custom roms kernels and recoveries

Bootloader is unlockable but first you need to enable a setting for it in developer options
[Nexus 6  General] :
That's the great thing about the Nexus phones and why I keep coming back. They're just too easy to modify.

Not that other brands are ever able to stop us from unlocking/rooting them ;)
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
That's what I like about Android

So easy to customise and the nexus makes the experience way better

Only downer is the launch is always screwed up

If only they could sort that out
[Nexus 6  General] Phantom Shadow:
Just as long as it is that easy, weren't some of the US carriers like verizon wanting to lock the bootloader so it wasn't just as simple as fastboot oem unlock?
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Dunno mate but what I've read is you have to enable the setting in developer options first then unlock bootloader

If you don't enable the setting first the bootloader won't unlock

I'll see if I can find the article and post here

http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/11/unlock-nexus-6-9-bootloader-developer-settings.html
[Nexus 6  General] Phantom Shadow:
Yeah, either way it's very easy to do, but I think US people were worried about verizon encrypting the bootloader so you couldn't just unlock it even with enabling the option in developer settings.
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
You mean this mate?

Even in the article it still says easily unlockable

http://rootzwiki.com/news/verizon-might-allow-unlock-nexus-6-bootloader-just-crazy/
[Nexus 6  General] :
Whatever they (the companies) do, people on here will find a way to break the security so that they can do what they want to the phone. That's one of the things I love about this community.
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Yeah that's true mate the devs on xda are brilliant

I don't think there's anything that they can't work their magic on
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
I just want to update you guys on the despatch issue. I've just spoken with the warehouse manager at CPW who is in charge of allocation of stock and distribution. He has confirmed that there will be no deliveries on or after the 1st. He did bring up the text messages and referred to the wording that deliveries will take place "...by the (date)" and said that if the stock arrives earlier they will despatch the orders and you'll get the email with tracking details along with the subsequent text from DPD (which is what we expected to happen anyway from the text).

The manager did apologise for the incorrect information that has been given to us by staff on the phones and staff replying to web chats. He went on to say the staff did have had the correct information which was given on their internal intranet. He further explained that it seems staff haven't updated themselves before they start work and giving answered to queries from customers or that team managers haven't updated them verbally.

It's up to you if you believe what I've written in this post but as I've suggested previously, you're wasting your time calling to check on things as you'll almost certainly be given incorrect information. The manager did say that the best thing is to work off the texts that have been sent out and that any further delays will be communicated the same way.

I hope this helps to clear things up.
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
CPW have simply lied about an earlier release date to gain orders.

Both Amazon & Google set the same date of 15th for dispatch so I fail to see how they didn't have this information.

CPW will never get any of my money again, due to such terrible service in the past.

I hope you guys don't have a similar experience.
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
That's all speculation, we can't say whether they lied or not.

when I put my order in I had to ring due to bank issues, when I asked about the delivery date, the very polite lady said it was an expected date and that it's down to the manufacturer that can sometimes cause delays.

So although they haven't been very good at giving us updated information, overall my experience hasn't been terrible ( not sure why they had to take the money so early though) , I got a text before the expected date (1st) saying it was delayed (8th).

We can start the conspiracy theories about how they did it to get early orders in, fact is we just don't know, and knowing Motorola record with manufacturing, it's entirely possible that they are having serious trouble meeting demands
[Nexus 6  General] Phantom Shadow:
There's also likely to be multiple batches to be shipped to the UK, so just because amazon started out with 15th delivery date doesn't mean CPW weren't expecting an earlier batch to be shipped in time for delivery.
[Nexus 6  General] RedBlueGreen:
Guys... the more you chase up on all this shipping stuff the longer the wait will feel. Just be happy when it does come.

I'm hyped about this phone too.. but its just a phone and a few days won't hurt...

Okay its bad service but this whole nexus 6 experience has been bad.

Relax.... stop stressing and have a cuppa
[Nexus 6  General] chistery:
Despite buying sim free from CPW, they did a credit search on me. Is there really any need for this?
[Nexus 6  General] timlad:
Amazon just sent this...
[Nexus 6  General] Scottatron:
Wow, Way to Go Motorola!
[Nexus 6  General] toString:
That's really bad, after xmas! Might even arrive in 2015... :(

CPW, Amazon, wonder who is next!...
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
Yep, Amazon sent me the email too.
[Nexus 6  General] Remoteconcern:
I phoned CPW to change my order from blue to white in the 64Gb. Immediately after, I got an email saying my order had been cancelled. They assured me even with that, the delivery date is still 15/12. I've got a bad feeling my order is now dead in the water though.
[Nexus 6  General] Silentsoul:
I dont get it. Google itself said in germany they would 100% release it Here in the 5th. Like, early playstore Orders should geht shipped by then. Amazon, mediagroup etc would need to wait to 9th to 15th Dezember. For me, this means If mine gets shipped at the middle of next Week, ill have it by friday. Dont believe Google will delay as their info is from this thursday..will keep you guys informed. Maybe ur Chances will be better if you order over Here germany!
[Nexus 6  General] Maker of Clouds:
With CPW you have to cancel first order and than place new. Can be done over the phone. When new order is made, don't forget ask order number. Or call customer service, explain situation (how you made first order, and later you change colour or storage) ask them to look up in system. That's how it worked for me.
[Nexus 6  General] meletios:
So the delays are from Motorola..

on the other hand better they sort out the issues with the phone rather than shipping out buggy phones.

..but delivery after Christmas is bad ...poor show Google/Mototola..
[Nexus 6  General] mys3:
My Playstore order for 24/12/14 isn't looking as bad as I thought, what with all the messing about from the other sellers.
[Nexus 6  General] ChrisJ:
After sending my Moto X back and deciding to go for a Nexus 6 after all, I've got a feeling that even if I do manage to order one from the GPS soon I'm not going to see anything before the new year. Until then I'm using my old N4, already given my wife the N5 and I don't think any amount of persuasion would let me get that back.
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
I know how you feel mate I've told my son he can have my nexus 5 but only after I have my nexus 6 firmly in my hands
[Nexus 6  General] disk0360:
I got the following email this morning, this was after receiving the text last week to say 8th Dec from CPW. I placed this order as soon as pre orders went live at CPW. Think I'm gonna cancel now and just get a 32gb blue from GPS that I placed on the 18th Dec, happy I got a backup plan, no way are CPW getting on custom from me in the future.

'Thank you for your email.

I am sorry for the change in the expected delivery date for the Nexus 6 64GB in white you have pre ordered from us. This delay has been caused directly by the manufacturer, please allow me to apologise again for any disappointment caused.

If we receive stock of this phone before the week commencing 15 December, we will of course dispatch your order without delay. Additionally if there is any further change to this expected delivery date we will contact you directly.

Please note that if you would like to cancel your order with us, this can be done at any time.

If you have any other questions please reply to this email and we'll be happy to help you.

Kind Regards,'
[Nexus 6  General] letom:
Yep I got the email too from Amazon, 23rd December. I guess it's not toooo bad, means I'll be spending new years Eve and Christmas playing with the phone/flashing and all the other joys that come with a nexus :D
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
I never got that email and i ordered at the same time. Did anyone else feet this email from CPW or text to update what they sent on Thursday? Did you change your order at all?
[Nexus 6  General] disk0360:
Have not changed anything at all, I just called to check and as far as they know they should receive the delivery by 15th Dec :(
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Dec you mean? Is be really avoid if it was Feb lol. I'm pretty avoid for you mate. That's ridiculous. What time was your first email from them which acknowledged the order? Mine was timed at 12:08 and second one was 13:14.
[Nexus 6  General] disk0360:
LOL its was a typo, similar timings on the emails though perhaps a bit later on the 2nd email
[Nexus 6  General] NexusHexus:
I'm hoping there's no delays caused by the actual shipping due to it getting so close to Christmas.
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
I think it's the first that really matters mate but that is really annoying. I'd complain to be honest. On here at least, for now, you seem to be the only one but there could be others, we don't know.
[Nexus 6  General] disk0360:
Have you had confirmation of an earlier date then?
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
No no, I ordered same as everyone else on 18th. Just very unusual that you got the email. Did anyone else get anything after the text on Thursday?
[Nexus 6  General] disk0360:
I emailed them after the text I received, don't trust them at all
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Oh sorry, I missed that. Is ignore the email to be honest. Clearly they've got it wrong. I'd you've had the text saying the 8th is just go on that the email clearly had the wrong date on it and the person wiring the text didn't check or didn't have the correct information in front if them (as per my last long post about errors by staff). They've sent texts to people who've done click and collect saying deliver by 8th/15th so I think you're safe mate.
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
I think they were in such a rush to contact everyone before the 1st came round that some of the emails are for the wrong models.
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Yeah I agree. I'd just stick with the texts as that's what the warehouse manager confirmed to me
[Nexus 6  General] j0nnymoe:
S3 + Nexus 5 + Nexus 6 Case (Spigen)
[Nexus 6  General] pnnorth:
I reckon you can fit three G1 screens within the N6 screen.

The wait for the N6 is bad but my G1 is still stuck on Donut 1.6 - very poor on Google's part.
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
All those Nexus 6 on eBay are people selling their pre ordered phones

FOR STUPID MONEY

MAKES ME TEMPTED TO PUT MY 64GB MIDNIGHT BLUE ON FOR A GRAND

ANYBODY :D:D:D
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
Someone's going to get their Nexus 6 today and stroll into this thread innocently all excited, and rage all you guys up lol. Enjoy this week, relax, unsubscribe for a bit and start a new book!
[Nexus 6  General] @home:
Are those guys who pre-ordered from CPW getting their N6's today?
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
No no one is getting any phones today
[Nexus 6  General] @home:
What happened to the 1st December deliveries for the 32gb model?
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
All of them got pushed. We all got texts on Thursday saying that there had been a manufacture delay and that phones would now be despatched by 8th Dec if you ordered early enough and 15th December for all others.

The 1st delivery date was never going to happen as Carphone warehouse were already told by Motorola on 21st Nov that there would be a delay in sending stock
[Nexus 6  General] superstevie:
Just to update, nothing happened so far, no dispatch msg, no further information regarding delivery dates.

Although I'm not surprised, still disappointed with this launch.

Btw I just subscribed the £100 Moto X promotion code, considering the after discount price for Moto X 2014 will be merely £359 (32Gb), I might abandon the Nexus 6 and go for Moto
[Nexus 6  General] meletios:
thought CPW sent the delayed texts for 64GB models only,

did anyone who ordered 32 GB CPW on 18th Nov get the message as well.

Edit :- Never mind, read the posts above (posted at the same time as mine)
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
I'm thinking the same though the moto x doesn't come with the turbo charger as you have to buy it separately. I'm torn now about what to do but the moto x offer is valid until 16th Dec so for time to change if want to
[Nexus 6  General] superstevie:
I ordered 32Gb and didn't receive delay msg.
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
Personally, coming from a Nexus 5, i don't see a major advantage going to the Moto x 2014...

Here's a few specs vs Nexus 6, yes its cheaper, and i mean no disrespect for any Moto X owners, but imo i don't think its at the same level

5.2" 1080p 424 PPI ( lower than Nexus 5 with 445) vs 1440p 5.95" 493 PPI

2GB ram vs 3GB

snapdragon 801 / Adreno 330 GPU (same gpu as Nexus 5. ) vs Snap 805 / adreno 420

Mono front facing speaker / Stereo front facing speakers

2300 mAh ( same as Nexus 5 ) vs 3220 mAh battery

Moto X 2014 is a nice phone and all, and as always it isn't just about specs, but they do play a part.. don't see the advantage over the N5 really though, but thats just me
[Nexus 6  General] jaimbo:
Just been into a store to query my order placed in store on the 19th. They called their internal help line and I've been told I should be able to pickup in store on the 5th. That's a 32Gb blue.
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Any of you guys willing to try this out when you finally get your Nexus 6?

http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...-water-resistance-tested-immersion-water.html
[Nexus 6  General] mustyrash:
No!

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Ha ha me neither

I did eventually try it with the experia Z1 but I'm not brave enough to with the nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] chistery:
So does anyone know why CPW perform a credit check with Equifax when buying a sim free phone?
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
To check if you're a Drug dealer? Money laundering? I wouldn't know but you are dodge mate lol
[Nexus 6  General] chistery:
For a contract I can understand, but SIM free? Maybe address verification with my card company, but hardly seems to warrant a full search.
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
Yeah could be to protect them from some sort of Card fraud. Or you look like a people trafficker.
[Nexus 6  General] Phantom Shadow:
Was it a full search or just a 'soft' search? I wonder if that's included in the T&C's during the checkout process if you're not getting a contract.

Even if it's in the T&C's, I'm not sure they should really be credit checking anyone who isn't potentially applying for a line of credit. Worth querying them over that.
[Nexus 6  General] mustyrash:
If the device was IP certified like an xperia device then I'd totally take it into the shower with me but if it isn't certified but has some kind of water proofing like the nexus 6 then I'm not gonna put a £550 phone in water but if it ever got wet (in rainy Manchester) or left it in a steamy room then I'd be glad that the water proofing is there.

A Sony nexus wouldn't have been bad in a z ultra size.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
I wouldn't risk it either

Although it's supposed to have the same nano coating as found on the other Motorola phones i still wouldn't trust it

A Sony Nexus would be great but not the same size as the ultra that is just too damned HUGE
[Nexus 6  General] chistery:
It just showed up on my Equifax alert
[Nexus 6  General] mys3:
They never have when I've bought sim free from them
[Nexus 6  General] chistery:
CPW deny performing a search and say Equifax must have it wrong. :cowboy:
[Nexus 6  General] pnnorth:
Also have the same search showing on my file and they did the same thing when I purchased a sim free phone last year.

They clearly haven't got a clue.
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
That's CPW bull**** again it appears they've done a search on everyone that's bought a sim free phone

Which they shouldn't have done because the phones have been bought outright and not on the never never
[Nexus 6  General] :
Hey, I found this:

http://www.experian.co.uk/consumer/questions/askjames338.html

If someone ends up speaking to Experian, find out what kind of 'footprint' it is because if it shows up as an actual credit application then it will affect all of our credit ratings.

If it does show up as an actual credit application, it can be disputed with Experian and they will remove it (as far as I have read on credit score incidents).
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
How i feel right now :
[Nexus 6  General] alitech:
Wow. Credit search? Wtf

---------- Post added at 06:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:40 PM ----------

So everyone now needs to open a case with experian and be o the phone with them for ages or actually wrote a letter and post it and spend a lot of time chasing a resolution? I don't have time for this ****

---------- Post added at 06:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:41 PM ----------

Can someone please confirm of its a soft search
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Don't know how I've managed to stop myself over the past week going into my local CPW and smashing all their live phones and tablets with a baseball bat

I've never had any problems whatsoever with them before but never again
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
I was going to go in and ask about my order but got chatting in the staff room. I went in the morning but there was no display phones and all the staff were busy.
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
I've just checked by credit report and couldn't find a trace of any search. I subscribe to Equifax and get alerts of any searches or changes. Nothing found.
[Nexus 6  General] alitech:
It might only be an experian thing. Equifax is a wannabe experian establishment.
[Nexus 6  General] pnnorth:
It's on my Equifax:
[Nexus 6  General] Barso1:
This must be the worst phone launch I've ever come across and CPW are not helping one bit.

I've never been treated so badly by any company considering they've just taken £549 from me for something I don't have and have no idea when I'll get it.

I am now convinced that Google really did plan to end the nexus line of phones for android silver but something happened and they've now convinced Motorola to let them use their planned Moto X plus line as a nexus device.

I must be an idiot.
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
I don't have that. How did you place your order?

---------- Post added at 08:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:50 PM ----------

Yeah it's so unclear about what is happening and their intentions and with them being absolutely shut tight with any form of communication. I wonder why and what's happening inside Google.
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
It's on my equifax too

I paid for mine with a pre paid MasterCard which I've been saving for my phones

So even paying that way they still didn't need a credit search
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Pre paid cards don't provide the security information that debit or credit cards do as these cards have already has a search and require the search to open the accounts, I.e. to verify who you are etc, so I think that this might be a reason for the search.
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Not true mate I've used the same card for countless other purchases large and small and that's the first time I've had a credit search done

For instance only last week i bought a 40 smart TV on it and no search
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Hmm does sound very suspect. Thanks for the info and putting me right :). I'd always thought they weren't as secure as I've had then before but that's a while ago now. Why have they done it to done and not others? I'd be interested in setting whether other people have had the search and what method they used to pay and if online or instore
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
I ordered online mate by rights normally a credit search is only done when taking out a contract

Pre paid MasterCard are great for saving for the stuff you want i do have normal credit cards too but prefer not to use as much because of the intrest they charge
[Nexus 6  General] pnnorth:
Just a normal credit card purchase - I've never had anyone else check my credit file when I've paid by credit card, only CPW.

I'll be emailing them tomorrow to ask for an explanation and proof that I agreed to the credit search (probably hidden in the T&Cs).