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[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
The part that video leaves out is when the Nexus 6 falls over and crushes and entire city block, killing women, children, and babies, like the Godzilla of phones that it is. (Sponge Bob escapes because he's a sponge, after all, and can re-expand to his normal shape.)

The Nexus 6 is an awesome device and in terms of hardware it's the best Nexus device yet (unless it does not have Motorola's four microphone noise cancellation, from the 2nd Gen Moto X, in which case it will not even been as good as the Nexus One for noise cancellation--the best Nexus device so far on that acount).

But, it's totally legitimate that a lot of people don't want a phablet, let alone a phablet that's even larger than the Note 4. For those who like the size, they're' in luck. For the rest of us, it's a big (nay huge skyscraper crushing) disappointment.
[Nexus 6  General] Jonnyredcorn:
I got over the size, can't get over the price
[Nexus 6  General] a.vandelay:
the 10mm thickness is not a great feature for a big screen phone. the price just ruins it.
[Nexus 6  General] RohanM:
I just don't understand these manufacturers.

I like moto x 2nd gen but small battery & no SD slot..

Then I like N6 BUT way too big...

Can't these people get something perfect or near perfect.. !!!
[Nexus 6  General] patkylie:
Same here ~ Really too big. ~ I believe that 5.5" in note 2 is maximum for a PHONE ~ wait for L update on my Nexus 5
[Nexus 6  General] KidCarter93:
Of course they can't, considering it's subjective and will vary from person to person.

The only sure fire way of someone getting something which they think is perfect (or as near to it as possible) is to make it themselves.
[Nexus 6  General] funkyblue04:
Nope. I do not want to carry a brick around. I also doubt the battery will be that good with such a big screen to power...
[Nexus 6  General] tgyberg:
Nice, I NEED it too!
[Nexus 6  General] jwoody86:
Honestly I'm really torn. I held off buying opo until this was released and with the price being so high I may just have to grab opo after all.

When I bought my n4 I was so happy with it I swore I would only buy nexus from then on, but now I'm not so sure....
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
Can't wait to get this big bad boy! Saving my $'s now...and will sell my Nexus5 if I like/keep the Nexus6!
[Nexus 6  General] msal:
Can't wait to get this either!
[Nexus 6  General] Techngro:
I think most of the people who are having doubts are not having those doubts because of the size. We pretty much knew weeks ago that this was going to be a phablet with a screen close to 6". It's the price that shocked people like myself. And as I posted in the other thread, if this had expandable storage, I would probably be all over it regardless of the price. But as it stands, it's a no-go for me.
[Nexus 6  General] Techngro:
There's already a poll on r/android and it has quite a few responses (390 at last check). Too expensive is the top reason why people are choosing not to purchase the Nexus 6 (25%). The second highest response is too large (22%).

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1mL...lhMT4pynNPh3BY/viewanalytics?usp=form_confirm (Link to poll)

http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2jdr40/meta_nexus_device_poll_for_randroid/ (Link to thread)

I'm just saying, we all knew it would be a large screen device, but I don't think anyone guessed it would be $650. That was the real surprise for me.
[Nexus 6  General] KidCarter93:
I was reading yesterday (not sure whether that was here on XDA or on an article elsewhere) that Google don't generally make much money from the Nexus series anyway. Considering Nexus' are, until the Nexus 6, known for being nice and cheap if the above statement is true then that explains the price increase.

Also, as this series are targeted more so at the development community than the average consumer, they're not really shooting themselves in the foot because they aren't selling to a wide audience anyway.

Besides, even though there's been a huge outcry regarding the size and price of the N6, I can guarantee you that it will still be a popular choice in this community. I've seen hundreds of comments across different sites which have said moaned about either the price or size but then gone on to say something along the lines of "but I'll still be buying one anyway". Google know that and therefore are less likely to listen to what the buyers want. It may be a different story if the N6 simply flopped due to the downsides of the device but that simply won't be the case.

I definitely agree that a second model should've been released though. At least if Google had done that, we wouldn't be seeing all this moaning and we'd be able to go back to seeing posts about it having no SD card slot, like what happens at every other Nexus release ;)
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
As I said, I think the Nexus devices have two audiences. The developers and the biggest Android loyalists.

They are both important. It's obvious why the developers and important. But the Android fanboy loyalists are also important, because although a relatively small part of the overall Android market, they are the ones who create the buzz and promote the ecosystem the most. It's alway those few opinion makers that are more important than anything in marketing. They help promote Android in a disproportionate manner. Also, they act as a test bed for a lot of the new ideas coming out from developers in custom roms and other hacks--that very often later make it into stock Android. And in the end, I think the non-developer Nexus owners actually outnumber the developers.

In fact, just reading around a bit, it sounds like the Nexus 5 made Google some real money and sold possibly into the millions. It's not nothing. And we shouldn't forget that Nexus devices are a showcase for what Android can be. So I really think it goes way beyond the developers.

People act like handset makers know what they are doing and have their reasons. But there are a lot of notable flops. Look how long it's taken Motorola to turn things around since the glory days of the original Razr. And after being the biggest handset manufacturer in the world for years, by many times over, Nokia totally fell on its face. So I don't assume that just because Google released a 6" device and only a 6" device that it therefore must be the best choice, because Google can't make a mistake.
[Nexus 6  General] PhantomGamers:
I gotta say that video in the OP describes me 100%. Trying to talk myself out of it because of the price but everything else is so appealing... gah.
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
I'm not saying the price wasn't more of a surprise. But that has nothing to do with whether it will deter people from getting the phone or not. Surprises aren't inherently deterents. The problem is that the price is something people don't like, not that it was a surprise.

In fact, one could argue the opposite. People are reacting (negatively) right now to the surprise of the price, in a knee jerk fashion, but some of them will change their mind and get the Nexus 6 anyway. Their response to the poll is more just a way of expressing their annoyance at the high price. Wherease people were prepared for the large screen so if they say they won't get the Nexus 6, because of the screen, then that is more likely to be a considered opinion that they will stick with.

Anyway, the poll is getting about the same result as my poll. 50/50. Half of people are more disappointed by the size, half more by the price. It's also consistent with my poll in reflecting that about twice as many people say they don't want the phone (whether because of size or price), as those who appear happy to get it. That reflects the possibility that the Nexus 6 may really be a lot less popular of a device than its predecessors.

Anyway, both polls are entirely non-scientific non-random samples with no controls and self-selecting participants, making them statistically meaningless. I do think they bear out my assertion, at least, that price is not a bigger issue than size, as you suggested. Size appears to be at least an equal issue for people.
[Nexus 6  General] lukepw:
Price isn't that much of a factor,but I'd like to hold one before parting with the cash. It may just be a bit too big!
[Nexus 6  General] SovereignKnight:
AMOLED killed it for me. I dont care how fast the phone is or what version of Android is on it. Its not even a phone on my radar anymore.
[Nexus 6  General] RedBlueGreen:
Iv'e been waiting for an expensive Nexus device. I thought they would go all out on the Nexus 5 but didn't.

Nexus 5 was a hell of a phone and still is.. but they took cut backs from it to meet the price. Looking at all the specs of the Nexus 6 they have taken 0 cut backs.

Another play from Google might have been make two cheap nexus phones to get people hooked on them.. then make an expensive one and get all the hooked people to buy it no matter what.

Most of the people that are saying they won't buy it because of price and size.... will most likely buy it further down the road when its probably reduced by $10 and every other flagship phone is 5.5+ inches
[Nexus 6  General] aSquard:
Why is the SD slot still a topic of discussion regarding Nexus devices? Google won't include one. They said, here's 8GB and 16GB - when that wasn't enough, here's 16 and 32, now we have 32 as the minimum.

It just irks me that there's still complaints about this on Nexus devices.. Buy something else then
[Nexus 6  General] cobyman7035:
i will cheap out and get the nexus 7 FHD LTE when it clears out , i think staples.ca had it for 200cdn. which is not bad at all

i figured to get a nexus 6 i'd need to resell my nexus 5( 300 i'd get for it?) , add in ANOTHER 500cdn just to upgrade to the nex6

i'll just spend that 500 on the LTE nex7 fhd, and prolly get ANKER powerbank 15000mA and nice cheap laptop

Dell Inspiron 15-3531 Laptop

★★★★★

★★★★★ Overall rating value is 5 of 5 stars.	(1)

Student price

$201.69 cdn.

+ mx100 256gb SSD (both dell laptop and ssd-all that for 300+ change)
[Nexus 6  General] Techngro:
Well I actually wanted a larger screen phone. I already have a Note 3, and I wanted something with 6". The price was a surprise for me, but I would consider the Nexus 6 even at this price IF it had expandable storage. But I can't go from 90GB (and yes, most of that is being used and no I don't want to have everything in the cloud because I don't always have a data connection) with my Note 3 to 64GB with the Nexus 6.

I'm sure Google will sell a boatload of Nexus devices this year. It looks like a great device, It just doesn't have what I need.

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Because it's so silly and arbitrary.

Having a MicroSD card is not going to affect the device negatively in any way, and lots of people would like to have the option to expand the storage on their device. It's like someone at Google got burned because their MicroSD card died on them that one time and now they want to get revenge. There has yet to be given a legit reason why they refuse to include it.

In addition, if you ARE only going to have internal storage, 64GB is nothing. At least have a 64GB and a 128GB option.
[Nexus 6  General] THE_KINGDOM:
simple put, too big and too expensive.

I'd be willing to give the size a shot, but with that price point, forget it!

That's premium price territory WITHOUT the premium feature like fingerprint scanner, laser autofocus etc.. that's what those manufacturers usually charge extra for..

this is a real let down. I just can't believe how much they are charging for this device. Anybody even trying to justify this price is out of their F****ING mind's.

Nexus 5 (base price): $349CAD

Nexus 6 (Base price): $749CAD

umm? :S paying over double for the Nexus 6.. I'm extremely confused and shocked..
[Nexus 6  General] pandakat:
I am impressed w this new nexus line. I am definitely going to buy a Nexus 6 and maybe even a Nexus 9.

The size is not a big deal as i am coming from a note 3 and G3, i am actually happy about the size as i am not a real big fan of 5inch phones, i have big hands and i feel like i am holding a phone meant for small asian girl when holding the iphone or other smaller variations.

And the PRICE! I am not seeing where the big deal is here, the N6 is up to par with other flagship devices. The Iphone 6+ is about $900 off contract, $650 seems reasonable. PLUS i literally just spent $598 on a g3 @ Tmobile. I would much rather pay an extra $50 for the nexus 6 any day.
[Nexus 6  General] hajyihia:
the only thing that can prevent me from buying the nexus 6 is the camera, right now i have 2 choices...the note 4 and the nexus 6, if the camera of the nexus 6 turns out to be good, i dont want it to be better than the note 4 camera, but to be better than my S4 camera, then i would get the nexus, if not i hope HTC will wake up and make the "almost" perfect phone...the one M8 was great until you get to the camera section then it all falls....lets wait and see...if nothing from what i said happens then its the note 4....(i like tw ui but hate the lag)...
[Nexus 6  General] linuxares:
Isn't a big market Asia? If I recall correctly people love the phablet over there.

People really are stuck on the price, I mean before LG got the hands on the Nexus series. They where dirty expensive. This must be the first Nexus that is really powerful and is competing with the top flagships. Sure, I'm a bit sad it wasn't like 500$ for the 64gb model and I wish it was a 64-bit CPU from the get go. But here we are. It's 2014 and if I remember correct, it was an outcry on the Nexus 5 when it got release as well. I think it's impossible to make people happy that's for sure. :cyclops:
[Nexus 6  General] leontine:
LOL!!!!
[Nexus 6  General] RizkieYudha:
The size still acceptable for me, but would be good if there's smaller option.
[Nexus 6  General] monkeypaws:
Wow dude you need to get a grip. The last two nexuses where the only budget ones. Fingerprint scanner, heart rate monitor....gimmicks, wow.
[Nexus 6  General] THE_KINGDOM:
I'm explaining what potential features would justify such a price increase doofus!
[Nexus 6  General] monkeypaws:
Didn't read that way but I'm no English major
[Nexus 6  General] THE_KINGDOM:
No worries. But I'm just saying without plowing the same kind of tech into the device that other flagships manufactures do, it shouldn't be anywhere near the same price.

Not to mention it's a Nexus and the previous business model of selling was always subsidized direct from Google. They've obviously changed this model.
[Nexus 6  General] monkeypaws:
I believe the sticker shock will wear down once the device are in the hands of reviewers and others.
[Nexus 6  General] THE_KINGDOM:
Maybe.. Hard to say.. Not sure.. With such a price I don't think anybody would label this device best bang for the buck..

But it is a Nexus afterall and for that reason it would be the only phablet I'd buy.. updates direct from google and full software support.. Makes all the difference to Android IMO.

Although since I've been running the latest L Developer Preview on my Nexus 5 which is basically the same as the Lollipop release, as all the API's are now active, I have to say this phone is more than sufficient and snappy on Android L. At 5" screen size the phone is physically more manageable also.

At this point I have no idea if I'll get the Nexus 6 or not. If it was cheaper like we'd all expected, I would have tried the massive size out. But now.. I dunno..
[Nexus 6  General] LeVvE:
I could totally buy the new Nexus 6, you get quite a lot for your money.

*puts a model in my hand*

Nope nope nope its the same size as my WHOLE hand.

*2 days later*

Its not THAT big I could probably still use it with no issue.

*puts the model in my hand again*

Nope nope nope this is a sail...

I'd totally buy the Moto X but seems the developer scene for the old Moto X 2013 is minimal and non-existent on the 2014 version.
[Nexus 6  General] DevScorpi0:
This has made my day... :highfive:
[Nexus 6  General] mi7chy:
Coming from a Note 3 the Nexus 6 is too big, too pricey and doesn't have a pen but I'm pretty sure I'm going to get it over the Note 4.
[ONE General] Vintage144:
I hear a rumour of a Win phone , I think its a great opportunity for some easy cash flow for OPO , not sure if it will help Microsoft , Id be very wary of a deal with Microsoft , they may swallow OPO in one bite. The good is the fact it will have plenty of money to operate and produce new handsets. I just wonder how free and creative the OPO devs can actually be , one of the reasons the OPO is so attractive at least to me is that it is "open"

, I love technology , I love OPEN technology better ~

Windows is like Apple , nothing is open , winphone 7 was fun , they left api's open (not giving them away but it was easier to open doors ) , win 8 closed all them doors and without even partial api access on a custom phone platform like the OPO , means you'll have a "all show n no go" muscle car! Remember the apples were so underclocked, thats what will happen here with the OPO , maybe it cross platform like HTC HD7 , THAT WOULD BE SUPER COOL!

Sent from my HTC Dream
[ONE General] dansou901:
Yeah, I hope that it will become cross platform as well... Dual booting Android and Windows would be nice. Always wanted to try out Windows Phone, but without losing Android....
[ONE General] the Doctor:
OnePlus NOT considering Windows Phone handset | phonearena.com

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[ONE General] zaphodbeeb:
microsoft sucks, google spies. Ubuntu or firefox for me please.
[ONE General] BrianDigital:
Its not spying when you agree to it
[ONE General] Mr Woolf:
It is if most people don't understand the implications of what that have agreed to.

Thanked in error.
[ONE General] bachera:
Considering noone reads the fine print. There is a difference between agreeing and not knowing.

And anyway its still pretty unethical
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] uconnpat:
When do you think we will start seeing the first lollipop roms?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] uconnpat:
That doesn't seem reasonable for at least two reasons.

1. I was under the assumption that Lollipop uses less resources than KitKat (that is at least what the propaganda is saying)

2. You have devices like the Incredible and Bionic that are running 4.4.4... our device is much newer and much more powerful than those...

3. I have 4.4.4 running on my device and it seems to be handling it fine....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JohnCorleone:
Its my understanding that Google dropped AOSP source code for CDMA devices (at least the GNex) after 4.2.2 and CM merges have been barely keeping the Sprint GNex in the game. Its a shame too. My Nexus 4 literally had hardware problems on day 4 making it nothing more than a speakerphone and even with insurance, Google Play wanted to hold $450 on my debit card for 6 weeks while they searched for water or drop damage. That was with insurance. The GNex still feels like a well built device even though the specs aren't the most impressive

I found old Miui and CM7 ROMs buried in my Dropbox for my NS4G so I am going to go old school with that device this weekend just for fun

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I had the Note 2 which was a game changer with the 8 hours of screen time daily even overclocked but passed on the Note 3 and got the HTC One M7 which turned out to be a great move. I SIM unlocked it and Super-CIDed it then switched to the T-Mobile $70 unlimited everything plan and I get LTE averaging 35MB down and 30 up with WiFi calling and text and even pulled 5 days on one charge with 4+ hours of screen time.... but I am going to have to get the Note 4. I have been waiting for a more sturdy metallic feeling device from Samsung... I just don't know if I should use one of my 2 Sprint upgrades I have sitting here or go with the T-Mobile version. GSM devices get so much more Dev support
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] duffkitty:
This made it look more promising than before.

But I've been around old phones where hope is lost but some Dev somewhere takes on a challenge and makes it work. Whether or not this happens no one will know for sure... The point is though, there is hope and if you want it that badly there's always the opportunity to learn something new. Heck, my old HTC Hero had some ICS builds, they sucked but...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JohnCorleone:
Yeah that's why I have been sitting on 2 Sprint upgrades for over a year now...Sprint's Tri-Band LTE speeds are mediocre and I am in a prime coverage area meanwhile my $70 unlimited everything T-Mobile HTC One M7 is blazing fast all of the time...

Sent from my HTC One using Xparent Gray Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dreamwave:
I don't see this being impossible, I mean I have the G1 and someone got freaking JB on that at one point, I run 4.0 with only moderate lag on the thing. I think people just keep talking around the elephant in the room, the TI OMAP, because it doesn't have drivers...well neither did a lot of phones, for a lot of stuff. A "thanks" bounty and a donation to whoever gets this working :fingers-crossed:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crhylove:
Verizon is terrible in my area. Sprint was much better. It matters where you are. I'll try us cellular when my current contract is up.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AGoogleUser:
This is EXACTLY the way I feel. Hello Nexus 6 Verizon. See you later Sprint!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zeinzu:
When you step up and build one.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AGoogleUser:
I just seen it the other day. If I'm on 3G I can't do anything internet related....At all. Play store can't display anything, the browser won't load pages and some apps that require data will say they need an internet connection. Speeds are equal to AOL if not worse. 4G on the other hand is not bad. It can be better but I can at least do everything I need to.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dreamwave:
The source isn't available yet, though
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zeinzu:
Was simply my inb4 response.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zer0_Cool:
They're coming soon! MWisBest posted this in his OmniRom threads
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] smstriker:
unfortunately, I used 55-65GB per month, so I can't leave Sprint. $50 per month.... just can't make a justification for changing. My service where I live is pretty good and i have LTE coverage everywhere but where I actually live... lol. but they gave me an air-rave to provide me a 3G signal, but I use Wifi for anything data at home.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dreamwave:
Did this whole thing just turn into a sprint trolling thread? If so, please continue! This is the most productive thing I've seen all day!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] peterasimpson:
It would be nice to see lollipop on the old G-Nex, especially as 5.0 uses less resources than KitKat, apparently...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JohnCorleone:
I was hoping some devs still had the Galaxy Nexus lying around and built some lollipop ROMs for it. The Evo 4G LTE runs incredibly fast and smooth with Lollipop. I am actually moving that device up to 5.1.1 today which is a more current Android version then my M9 currently has running on it

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Gray Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 6  General] NextNexus:
So that icon on the bottom of all the Nexus 6 renderings that some of us thought was a new Hangouts icon is actually another new SMS/MMS app. I guess enough people didn't like the text messaging - Hangouts integration. Direct quote from Google as well as info from AndroidPolice below.

www.androidpolice.com/2014/10/15/go...-solution-not-a-hangouts-replacement-rebrand/

[IMG="Nexus 6 Rendering"]http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/entry_photo_images/12863728/N6-android-bg_verge_super_wide.png[/IMG]
[Nexus 6  General] msal:
That's nice. Though I wish Google would just integrate them both flawlessly and have one unified messaging system.
[Nexus 6  General] Rox598:
As long as the app has had the full material design makeover i'll use it over hangouts. Hangouts always had a problem with closing in the background on me no matter what the phone but the stock one didn't and it annoys the hell out of me