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[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
The ArsTechnica review provides a nice example of why sensor size matters so much, as I've been saying here and in another thread (I mean physical size of the sensor, not number of megapixels).

Amongst a couple other phones they compare the Nexus 6 and Note 4. A good comparison point for low light photography (no flash), because they both have OIS, but the Nexus 6 has a 1/3.06 sensor and the Note 4 has a larger 1/2.6 sensor. Since this is about capturing light and color, megapixels don't matter (they will only effect detail, all other things being equal, which in this case things are definitely not equal).

Here's the Nexus 6:

And the Note 4:

The Nexus 6 produces a dark grainy image that you would probably consider not useable. The Note 4 produces a nice image, with nice color, that reflects what a low light situation really looks like. That's all because of the larger sensor.

That aside, from reading several reviews and looking at images, it's looking like the Nexus 6 is following in the tradition of a lot of phones and producing over-saturated images (the colors are much more intense than reality). A lot of consumers prefer this, not understanding that over-saturated images are inaccurate and being drawn to colors that "pop" like a child to candy. (I even saw one "review" complaining that the Note 4 has washed out colors compared to the Nexus 6, because of course they fell for the over-saturation trick and did not understand that the Note 4 was producing more accurate images.) The one area in which the Nexus 6 seems to excel is that they did an excellent job on the white balance. AnandTech said the white balance is the best they've seen. Why Google/Motorola decided to get that one thing so right and do a mediocre job on other things, who knows.

Anyway, seems like the Nexus 6 camera is definitely a step up from previous Nexus devices, but pretty middle of the road for today's flagship phones with 1/3 sensors. That also baffles me a bit. Google has caught up in a way that they needed to do, but why not take the opportunity to surpass others? I guess with their choice of a middle of the road 1/3 sensor, we already knew they were'nt trying to do that, even before the phone came out.

In the end, I'll be happy with the Nexus 6 camera, but it's nothing to write home about.
[Nexus 6  General] sonyfan12:
They paid

http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/168898-image/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4.jpg (oversaturated)

http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/168897-image/Google-Nexus-6.jpg (not oversaturated)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r732fu9TJE

note4 have oversaturated (especially car color), cold and rosiness colors

http://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/Apple_iPhone_6_Plus_vs_Samsung_GALAXY_Note_4.html

note4 have oversaturated and cold colors

also. why in note4 photo darkness around toy?
[Nexus 6  General] cb474:
I have no idea what you mean by, "they paid." Anyway, I'm not seeing it. The Nexus 6 image looks like it's over-exposed, that's why it's lighter. And that very grey scene is a bad way to compare cameras for color accuracy.

Here you can see how the Nexus 6 is oversaturated, compared to the Note 4:

Nexus 6: http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Nexus-6-12-980x727.jpg

Note 4: http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Note4-1-980x551.jpg

Also here it's very obvious:

Nexus 6: http://core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2014/11/03-nexus-6-camera-100529978-orig.jpg, http://core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2014/11/05-nexus-6-camera-100529984-orig.jpg

Note 4: http://core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2014/11/03-note-4-camera-100529980-orig.jpg, http://core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2014/11/05-note-4-camera-100529986-orig.jpg

Um, okay 1) That review and video are meaningless for comparison to the Nexus 6, since they compare the Note 4 to the iPhone 6 Plus, so they can not possibly show us anything about the color accuracy of the Note 4, relative to the Nexus 6. 2) The iPhone 6 Plus images in both the video and the review are very obviously more color saturated than the Note 4, making it even less meaningful and demonstrating exactly the opposite of what you assert. Here's one obvious example of how the iPhone 6 Plus is over-saturated relative to the Note 4: Note 4: https://hi-tech.imgsmail.ru/hitech_...84x-/i/67/53/8664564337cb062435b4fb0d1e5f.jpg iPhone 6 Plus: https://hi-tech.imgsmail.ru/hitech_...84x-/i/fe/a1/1d83af042078f56387628d0ad3f2.jpg. 3) The "cold"-ness you refer to is exactly the opposite of over-saturation (i.e. less color saturation) so your point makes less sense. The rosiness in the Note 4 video is because the white balance is off on the Note 4, not because it's oversatured. You can see in the video that the iPhone 6 Plus has much more saturated colors, but the white balance is more accurate, so it doesn't have that rosy sheen to everything. So that is an entirely separate issue with the Note 4.

I have not idea what you're referring to. It's dark around the toy because it is a very low light situation. The Note 4 is accurately displaying what a dark scene looks like (rather than over-exposing it and looking washed out, like the HTC One M7 often does, with it's OIS and very long exposures). And obviously the Nexus 6 image is completely dark and basically crap. I don't know how one could suggest in any way that the Note 4 does not vastly out perform the Nexus 6 in the low light image of the toy I post above.
[Nexus 6  General] sonyfan12:
Where? I only see that the note4 have very cold colors (because of this it does not show yellow). Note4 doesn't have "accurate image".

It is called nexus 6 have better DR.

1) iphone 6+ have very good color reproduction, better than note4 and slightly worse than nexus 6 and it provides insight of note4 color accuracy

2) WHAT?

3) You don't understand what is oversaturation

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[Nexus 6  General] Master Ramy:
Just to clarify so both sides see the same understanding and definition, here's a couple pieces I just copied from a photography site:

{Saturation}

Saturation is a uniform bumping up the intensity of all colors in your shot, regardless of the starting point of the colors. This can result in clipping (over saturation of certain colors which results in loss of detail in those areas) and over saturation of skin tones leaving them looking too orange and unnatural.

{Vibrance}

Vibrance is a smart-tool which cleverly increases the intensity of the more muted colors and leaves the already well-saturated colors alone. It’s sort of like fill light, but for colors. Vibrance also prevents skin tones from becoming overly saturated and unnatural.

http://digital-photography-school.com/vibrance-vs-saturation-in-plain-english/

Read on in source for more detail, in some of those shots it seems more of a vibrance difference than oversat, but I'm looking on a phone screen here so who knows :)

Anyway, commence your discussion, gentlemen.
[Nexus 6  General] jineshpatel30:
Don't knw this one is already posed or not but very good comparison bet nexus 6 N note 4 :good:

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2846460/nexus-6-vs-galaxy-note-4-camera-shootout.html
[Nexus 6  General] gtg465x:
Very nice. Helps to read the descriptions too because only the photographer knows what the scenes looked like in real life and what the photos are supposed to look like. Sounds like the Nexus 6 may have the best camera of any Android phone or iPhone in decent to good lighting, but the Note 4, iPhone 6 Plus, and others may do better in really low light. Pretty sweet. If only Google had calibrated the damn screen accurately the Nexus 6 would be an instabuy for me, even though I don't like the size. That screen combined with the huge size has deterred me though.
[Android Apps and Games] RamilFromKZN:
Application for reading PDF files without a text layer. The main feature - a restructuring of a PDF document to the width of the screen, regardless of the format of the document (with a text layer or not). Document can even be written by hand.

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Unlike Adobe Reader, PDF Viewer, EBookDroid, PDF Reader and others, we have a unique technology of Image Shuffle, which can handle PDF without the text layer. This is similar to Reflow, but much more convenient.

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Our competitive advantages:

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2) In contrast to the OCR (Optical Character Recognition), we do not distort the text and do not lose information.

3) The images in the document are not lost.

4) The technology works quickly.

5) For the technology does not require an internet connection.

Screenshots and APK:
[Android Apps and Games] new_challenge:
very useful. Goodluck for your app!
[Android Apps and Games] myke38:
Great app ;) Very useful
[Galaxy S3 Neo Accessories] christianrj:
The S3 Neo form factor is the same as the original S3, I'm thinking of buying this invisible shield from Zagg for my device, including the additional coverage options:

http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...s-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields/4464

What you think? Have you used some of their products before? Any pros or cons?

Or it's better to buy a tempered glass screen protector, for example:

http://www.amazon.com/Elixir-Galaxy-Screen-Protector-Samsung/dp/B00BHPNN38
[Galaxy S3 Neo Accessories] MarcoReckless:
I have a silicone cover and a temperated glass.

The invisible shield is crap, the temperate glass does something, but i have broken it when i was applying it.. :rolleyes:

Buy a transparent silicone cover and the temperate glass and your S3 Neo will be okay.
[General Topics] Doormat:
Last year I found a post here wherein someone released a sweet little prog which adds a contacts button to the phone screen in place of the blank button in between speed dial and OK.

Of course, when I upgraded my ROM I found that I'd not kept that prog on my pc.

I've searched but I can't find it.

Can someone please point me at the post or the prog?

TIA
[General Topics] vijay555:
Mamaich's app doesn't work on WM5 AFAIK.

His dll injection routine was version specific I think. But I understand it may have been 3rd party upgraded.

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[General Topics] Doormat:
Thanks for that vijay!

Once I had the name google got me to his site.

It's not a problem that it's not WM5 compatible, as I'm running 2003SE
[General Topics] vijay555:
I think it's this one right?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=227897&highlight=mamaich+contacts

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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TeslaParis:
Hello,

I was directed to this section by KJ.

http://xdaforums.com/general/xda-assist/finding-best-gnss-chip-android-vs-ios-t2905559

I'm looking for some info on the "true" GPS or GNSS chipset used by Android smartphone makers, vs. Apple iPhone series.

I've googled and looked at many "TearDown" reports on both but it remains obscure to me.

My setup is still rather uncommon, I admit: I drive a Tesla Model S with a nasty windshield optimized for heat and IR reflection (seems it's a double window with some alloy in between) and as a result, EVERY single Android phone I've tried (Samsung S4 Mini, Mega 6.3, LG G2 Mini) fail miserably vs. an iPhone 4 or 4S, not to mention a quick test with a 5S.

Every Android says: "no GPS reception" like 75% of time, wherever close to the windshield I place it.

While every iPhone, even placed on the passenger seat, like 1m away from windshield, will be on easy mode with both Google Maps or Waze (I use it in FR because it's the only one to show speed-traps by the meter range; one trap avoided pays the phone here...).

Do you know by any chance the type of GPS/GNSS that Apple is using on their iPhone ?

And what Android phone maker would use the same -or up to performance- ?

So I can order it.

Best regards,
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] taratoos:
Hi, I was so impressed and excited of using Extremebeats mod when i read the post

So, I downloaded 2.0 version and put all the files and folders into correct locations because I can't flash the zip file since I don't use CWM or TWRP due to NOX count. yes My NOX count is still 0x0 :)

I gave the files permissions correctly i think? folders are 755, and files are 644. After that I deleted cache & Dalvik cache.

Finally I tried to set up viper4andorid with IRS that you uploaded. But Viper4android kept shutting off itself without any errors.

It's literally shutting off itself.

Do you guys have any solutions that make my phone be able to use both Extremebeats and Viper4android??

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boating dude:
Hello!

I have unrooted Galaxy Tab S 8.4. LTE

Mobile data turns off every now and then without any reason, both data and phone connection. It lasts about 5- 10 seconds and then turns on again. Sometimes it works fine for hours without any problem, sometimes it turns off every few minutes. It seems to turn off when I open some app, for example Chrome or Tapatalk.

Warranty maintenance said there's no any malfunction in the device but the problem still exists. I also changed sim card by service provider but that didn't help.

I have other tablet (Galaxy Tab 7.7.) and it works fine with the same mobile data.

Feeling a bit helpless, is this a software or hardware issue? Where to begin?
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DUHAsianSKILLZ:
It might be a problem from your carrier or your tab s. You could try swapping out for a different tab s since it could be the sim card or the tab s. It could also be your signal strength. Where did you get your tab s from. And what carrier are you on right now?
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ayenzel:
i Also face this kind of problem, the signal suddenly loss and no network then back again have network.. From the first I buy this Tab S, I face many kind of problem
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boating dude:
As I told on post #1 the same sim card with its data and phone function works smoothly on my other tablet, Galaxy Tab 7.7. So I'm 99% sure that the problem is in the device. But somehow warranty maintenance didn't find anything wrong in it.

"Glad" to hear that because so far I haven't found anything related in this issue from the internet and for a second I thought, am I alone in the universe with this problem.
[Nexus 6  General] msal:
Great article on AA showing the differences between the Nexus 6 and other devices in the phablet category.

To sum it up:

- The Nexus 6 has a great display to body ratio. It's only (slightly) beat by the LG G3 and Huawei Ascend Mate 7.

- The Nexus 6, as you probably know by now, has the top-of-the-line specs. Nothing really compares with it except the Note 4, which has similar specs.

- The Nexus 6 is slightly bigger than the Note 4 (Differences in mm: 5.8 x 4.4 x 1.5) but manages to fit in a display that is .26 inches larger and front facing stereo speakers.

I would probably say that the Nexus 6's biggest competitor is the OnePlus One. It offers high-end specs, not quite as high-end as the Note 4 but the differences are negligible. Granted, the Nexus 6 has a more premium build (in my opinion), OIS and is launching with Android L as opposed to waiting more than three months until the OnePlus One receives the L update. Furthermore, the Nexus 6 is going to be on more carriers, will probably have much better customer service, is easily available (once it's actually released) and hopefully won't be riddled with the bugs.

However, the Nexus 6 is twice as much as the OPO - $350 as opposed to $700 for the same amount of storage. Money talks...

Now the real question: The other flagships that are being compared to the Nexus 6 all offer something additional. For example, the Note 4 has an SPen and the Mate 7 also has a fingerprint sensor. The LG G3 and Note 4 both have removable battery, microsd support and multi-window modes. Are you willing to compromise these extra features to have stock android?

Source:

AndroidAuthority
[Nexus 6  General] 2xbass:
No fingerprint scanner is a bummer. I use corporate email on my Nexus 5 and the compliance software makes me have a lockscreen password which is a PITA. No patterns are allowed. iPhone 6 and 5S users can use the fingerprint scanner to bypass the password.
[Nexus 6  General] anactoraaron:
I'm considering the N6 as an upgrade from my much beloved N5, but there's two things that I need to see from the N6 before making the purchase.

#1- The amoled display. Recent offerings from Motorola have had 'middle of the road' amoled screens when compared to Samsung's recent amoled displays (Comparing the Moto X 2014 to a SGS5 or Note 4). If that big amoled is sub-par, I will pass.

#2- The camera. Again, this is the track record of the Nexus line having a less than favorable camera when compared to competing phones. I'm also not sold on the dual ring led flash right around the sensor (it creates red eye if you are shooting people - seen on the Moto X 2014)

What's weird is that when compared to the Note 4 $100 more out of pocket ($649 for 32gb N6 and $749 for 32gb Note 4 - basing pricing from T-Mobile) really does get you quite a bit more.

(Perhaps) better display (more color accurate/brighter)

Better camera (16mp vs 13mp) and better ff (2.0mp vs 3.7mp) camera - I know, it's not all about the mp, but the Note 4's camera has received a lot of praise for shooting in all lighting conditions

S Pen

MicroSD/removable battery (extends device life)

IR blaster

Fingerprint scanner

The decision isn't as easy as it was with getting the N5. It's not the size, it's the price. I just can't stand Samsung and Touchwiz, and with the N6 getting Wifi Calling for T-Mobile... Ugh. If the display and or the camera turn out to be disappointing perhaps I will sit this round and wait for the first 64 bit nexus phone next year.
[Nexus 6  General] Far_SighT:
Poor Graphics on Nexus 6?

Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.

Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.

Can anyone elaborate on this?
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
All appleinsider did there was read a benchmark result

Turns out from the note 4 reviews that it handles games beautifully
[Nexus 6  General] Far_SighT:
Can you please add any benchmarks (FPS preferably) that corroborate this (I mean 30 fps is beautiful, but 50+ fps is what I would expect from a flagship)?
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark

Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)

Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)

Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)

Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
[Nexus 6  General] Far_SighT:
Thanks! I will wait for a more thorough review when Nexus 6 comes out. I will probably get a Nexus 9 now as I don't have any tablet, and the 192 core kepler is built for graphics!
[Nexus 6  General] Luxferro:
Note the difference in display resolution. If you've ever done PC benchmarking, you'll know that plays a huge difference....
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
Without a doubt, that's why I thought I'd better list them, good thing a lot of Android games give us a resolution slider
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
No Android phone can top the iPhone when it comes to gaming. That's the primary reason why I always have an iPhone as well as Android. Playing the same game on my iPhone 6 and my Nexus 5, they always look and run better on the iPhone. Take a benchmark game like MC5- on Android a lot of the effects are turned off and it still runs better on the iPhone. Even the 5s had better gaming/graphics performance than the N5. I'd imagine it'll be the same thing with the N6.
[Nexus 6  General] roan.util:
Apple's A7 SOC (iphone 5S) dominated most every benchmark. The A8 (so we are calling. We don't know the actual name) which is in iPhone 6 & 6+ is just the next generation of the same chip. It does very well and again dominates the benchmarks.

That doesn't mean a snapdragon 805 isn't good. It just means (in benchmarks at least) the A8 is better. However, we all know synthetics don't necessarily relate to real world use.

Apple is designing custom ARM chips for their own software in a closed system. Advantage Apple.

http://anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review

http://anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review

If you aren't reading anandtech reviews, you need to.
[Nexus 6  General] gogol:
Also note that the N6 camera sensor is

NOT THE SAME

as Moto X 2014 camera.

N6 camera sensor is IMX 214, source: http://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html

This is the same camera sensor as One Plus One, source: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...mx214-6-lenses-and-low-light-performance.456/

Moto X 2014 camera sensor is IMX 135, source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...MX135-sensor-and-more-daytime-samples_id60299

However, the Note 4 is using newer camera sensor IMX 240, source: http://www.sammobile.com/2014/08/21...es-16mp-side-touch-wide-selfie-and-much-more/

So, the Nexus 6 camera should perform better than the Moto X 2014, while it might not be as good as Note 4, from sensor model perspective.

Then the deciding factor would be the camera "software" :)
[Nexus 6  General] Far_SighT:
Thanks. It seems N9 is the way to go for media consumption, considering it's GPU performance is the best available (afa i know). Besides, N6 price seems overkill to me. They could have stuck with 1080p. At 6 inches, I doubt anyone has the eyes to see the difference.
[Nexus 6  General] roan.util:
1080P 6in a foot away from your face, you may be able to tell. But I'd agree that the resolution is over kill. A silly decision. It's just a waste of performance and battery life to run quadHD.

I have committed to nexus for obvious reasons. There are things I get with the Nexus line I can't get anywhere else. I don't want a 6" phone. But it's the current nexus.

I'll wait for reviews to hit (mainly anandtech) and see if there are any glaring issues.

I love my nexus 5 so much I could use it for another year or until Ara hits. Only complaint is battery size.
[Nexus 6  General] Luxferro:
You can't compare GPU benchmarks done at much different resolutions. It has a huge difference on FPS.

To quote one of your links:

You can't say their SoC dominates the 805 unless you do an apples to apples comparison using the same resolution. If you want to say the iPhone 6 performs better, than X you can. But you should note differences in resolution.