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[Nexus 6  General] jeffreii:
Yeah basically AT&T came out with this Family Shared *Value* Plan where they saved you a big chunk of money on your current plan...however, that was only temporary because as soon as you upgrade a line, you lose a "discount" that you had and end up paying more than you did before. ORRRRR (lol) you can avoid that and sign up for the BS AT&T Next program where they cheat you out of even more money. Best bet was to stay on the current plan, which I'm happy with, and avoid the crap.

As I understand it, new AT&T customers have no choice and have to get the "Value" plan.
[Nexus 6  General] sailindawg:
Buy the N6 direct from Moto. Moto is giving every indication that they will be selling it as well.
[Nexus 6  General] gtalum:
If you have several lines, the new plans can make a lot of sense, especially with the double data offer. I'm saving ~$100 per month on my 5 business lines (3 smartphones, a basic flip-phone, and an LTE iPad), so it made sense for me to switch and just start buying devices outright.
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
What benefit does buying on moto have over google play?
[Nexus 6  General] jball:
I had that same vow till AT&T started selling the HTC ONE M8.
[Nexus 6  General] jonnydopemsr:
http://attcalc.com/next/#calculate

By doing the next on the MSVP you are saving the money. Your buying the phone outright and you are NOT getting cheated out of any money. Honestly if you feel like your being cheated out of money why don't you go to a different carrier. You honestly don't understand the plan or how it works and are not going to let someone really explain it to you it seems like. I mean really, where are you getting cheated out of the money on the MSVP on the next program? Honestly I could care less cause this is totally off the actual topic of the phone being sold with or without an unlockable bootloader on AT&T.
[Nexus 6  General] Neverendingxsin:
I'll be buying it on contract since I don't plan on leaving AT&T anytime soon and $699 off contract is too steep for me.
[Nexus 6  General] 3's&7's:
It is interesting to note though, that was an AT&T Business side page.

The consumer side does not offer a 360 degree view of it; just front side zoom. I suppose we shall all see this week.

The PMA charging threat just does not seem likely. This phone will not sell in huge numbers like the G3 does (relatively based on Nexus sales history)...cost effective for Moto?

Also this device is listed as the XT1103...basic google search shows this to be 32gb model with Qi.
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
It really depends on how much Google is going to bend to the will of High end Carriers. This is already not looking good as it is, it could only be beginning to get bad.

Now that I think about it, what if the Droid Turbo on Verizon was actually Verizon's Nexus 6 heavily modified to appeal Verizon for sale? Talk about conspiracy..
[Nexus 6  General] gtalum:
At least AT&T's death star logo isn't awful looking. Verizon gets really obnoxious with its branding.

Either way I'm glad I ordered the Play Store version. I actually am a longtime satisfied customer with AT&T (actually was with Cingular starting in 1999), but I don't trust them to not bloat up the phone.
[Nexus 6  General] ddrwizard:
anyone else notice on the ATT Nexus 6 page they have a few of their "apps" listed.. :(

Apps, Personalization, and Entertainment

•Music Player: Google Play™ Music

•Music Playlists

•Streaming Media

•External music play controls (via lockscreen)

•Subscription Music Service: Google Play Music***

•myAT&T

•AT&T Device Help

https://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/devices/moto-nexus-6.jsp#fbid=w-6R1UyITa3
[Nexus 6  General] ahmarchi:
all i care about.... screw branding etc. but BOOTLOADER. that is the only thing i want to knowk b4 i walk in and go purchase it. damn AT&T lol
[Nexus 6  General] indoz:
I pay $30 extra per month for the 12 month plan :good:
[Nexus 6  General] Plexicle:
This is the part where we all start frantically checking our order statuses, right?

I anticipate it will ship today or tomorrow.
[Nexus 6  General] skylinegtr116:
True but what you probably don't understand that if you break your phone your still stuck with still paying for it. On top of that you gotta pay for a new phone. Great service my @SS
[Nexus 6  General] caspersfi:
Lol YEP! Already checked in a cpl times just by chance it would ship a little earlier. Still showing anticipated shipping dates of 11/18-11/19.
[Nexus 6  General] apascual89:
Yes, so true...... Also the part we start calling ATT every hour hoping they tell us something different from what we see online. [emoji12]
[Nexus 6  General] bstaruk:
If you buy a phone from the GPS, then break it, you don't get a refund... so I'm not sure what your point is.

The manufacturer warranty is still on the phone, regardless of whether you buy it from AT&T or GPS.

I don't think you know what you're talking about, here.
[Nexus 6  General] CraigP17:
im a little disappointed about the branding. but as long as the software is untouched and there is no att interference that would cause delays in updates, i will be fine. i have no problem uninstalling the few att apps that will automatically install at start up.

ordered thru ATT Premier on Friday and says processing and will ship on or around the 18th or 19th.
[Nexus 6  General] ervin10:
Checked my order and it still shows 11/18-11/19. I did see a commercial on YouTube about the Nexus 6 and it seemed to be a Google/AT&T commercial and the phone didn't have any branding. So hopefully it's not branded. But as long as the bootloader is untouched we are all good :). A few more days till we find out.
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
I am almost 100% certain that the software is untouched, look at the model number on your order status page, it matches the moto/GPS model, if it was altered then AT&T would have given it a different number like that have for everything else.
[Nexus 6  General] joshpdavis80:
I just confirmed that the At&t version has the At&t logo on the back and it is sim / subsidy locked. However, the bootloader is unlockable no matter where you purchase it. In addition you can request an unlock code from At&t for the sim / subsidy lock. I got the information from a Motorola employee (Director) who is heavily involved with the Nexus 6.

---------- Post added at 04:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:49 PM ----------

In addition, I found out that the phones will be shipping from an AT&T warehouse instead of direct from China. My order still says 11/18/2014-11/19/2014. I still have my fingers crossed that it will ship today. Hopefully, it will ship from TX and arrive that much sooner.
[Nexus 6  General] kkl0wn:
I can live with all that stuff if the bootloader is unlocked! Waiting to see an email or shipping update. I'm hoping the shipments arrive before you can walk in and buy one. That would make it pointless to take pre-orders.
[Nexus 6  General] joshpdavis80:
My diztronic case came in the mail today. It is the same great quality as always and the size does not make the phone seem all that huge either.
[Nexus 6  General] FMMFL:
I was just checking my shipment info on FedEx and came across a second tracking number.

I placed two orders, one from Moto and one from Att.

The first order is 2.2lbs and due on 11/19 by 10:30 which matches up with the traits of Motos shipments that arrived today.

The second is 2, 957.5 lbs and headed for Memphis. I wonder if it has anything to do with the ATT order I placed.
[Nexus 6  General] CraigP17:
So if it's carrier locked... Doesn't that have some impact on the device and software updates? Or not at all? That's my concern.
[Nexus 6  General] apascual89:
Wow that second shipment must be a heavy phone!!
[Nexus 6  General] MadHatter01:
How were you able to check it on Fedex's site? I tried Fedex insight by address but no luck.
[Nexus 6  General] FMMFL:
Or maybe a big batch of phones for ATT preorder??

---------- Post added at 05:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:40 PM ----------

I signed up for fedex delivery manager. Then I went to Track>Access fedex tracking. This brought up the shipments with my name tied to them.
[Nexus 6  General] MadHatter01:
Having it go to my work and it looks like it only works with residential address's.
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
Do you guys think att will eventually carry the 64gb version?
[Nexus 6  General] joshpdavis80:
I just checked with my source and he said that updates from Google will not be effected by where the phone is purchased. So the At&t moto 6 will get the update when everyone else gets it.
[Nexus 6  General] MadHatter01:
Not for at least 2-3 months I would bet.
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
Gotcha. I'm in a tough spot because I don't want to spends $700 but 32gb is too small for me.
[Nexus 6  General] MadHatter01:
I hear you on that. I really wanted the 64Gb but I am on Next plan with a Lg G3. I had to pay the rest of the next payments and trade mine in to get the Nexus 6.
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
There's a part of my that wants to get the note 4 but don't think I would be happy going back to kit Kat.
[Nexus 6  General] MadHatter01:
I cant stand waiting for updates. Samsung is the worst for updates. The hardware is never the issue, its the software. Thats why I trade phones in. I want the latest Android but dont want to wait 6-12 months for the update.
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
That's a good point. Do you like the next program? Do you think It works out in your favor?
[Nexus 6  General] MadHatter01:
The Next program is ok. I like the fact you can upgrade by paying up to the amount you pick. I have the 12, so I had 7 payment left of $29. I paid that and now I just give them my phone and I pick another. No trying to sell on ebay. I figure it this way. On the 2 year plans I was paying $200-$300 for the phone plus tax. Now I just pay the same but I dont have to wait 2 years.
[Nexus 6  General] marper123:
I agree I like the Next plan mainly because I upgrade at least once a year and with the Next plan I get to upgrade once a year or like you said just pay the left over payments. Also the Next plan gives you a cheaper connection fee that you don't get with a contract device. The connection fee with a contract phone is $40 with next it's either $15-$25 depending on your data plan. So it's a no Brainerd for me at least.
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
Can you keep your unlimited data plan on next?
[Nexus 6  General] marper123:
I'm not sure. Someone with an unlimited plan may come out better to stick with a contract phone because with out the monthly savings then it's not that great of deal.
[Nexus 6  General] BTow1105:
The pending charge that was the tax for my pre-order is gone and my order is still "preparing to ship 11/14-11/18" with no updates. Anyone else?
[Nexus 6  General] bryancotton84:
Yea same for me still....
[Nexus 6  General] JoeJags:
Yep.......exactly the same......
[Nexus 6  General] marper123:
Same boat. I am pretty confident we will get tracking numbers tomorrow. We were hoping earlier but apparently the phones just arrived. Sprints warehouse now showing units available. Google Play finally is shipping so we should get ours shipped tomorrow.
[Nexus 6  General] TMYINC:
Yes you can!
[Nexus 6  General] Pilz:
I put an Att Sim in my unlocked moto one and no bloat downloaded so that's good. I asked the Att store if they got any in and if they has logos but they didn't. I'm glad I bought mine from moto but hopefully Att won't screw people over more than usual.
[Nexus 6  General] purpl3rain:
Same. Was hoping AT&T would have posted the charge into my credit card instead of a pending but it's actually gone now. A posted charge would have at least made me feel like progress is being made. ETA ship date range still states 11/18-11/19.
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
---------- Post added at 07:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:18 PM ----------

What day did you guys pay the tax? My bank still says that it's pending, and site says preparing to ship.
[Nexus 6  General] P1 Wookie:
After much deliberation over the past week, I bit the Nexus 6 bullet this evening and pre-ordered as well. Their site still says they're shipping by the 18th on the order page, so hopefully that's a good sign that carriers aren't getting hit too hard with orders for this phone.
[Nexus 6  General] CraigP17:
With att Next you pay the tax up front.

I Pre-ordered Friday. My charge is still pending and premier says mine will ship 18th or 19th
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
Right, I paid the tax when I ordered it using the next as well, shipping says the same for me too, was just trying to make sure we are in the same boat since some say that the pending went away. Thanks for responding ?
[Nexus 6  General] Konikub:
This is what I want to know. At what point will we find out that the OS updates have to go through AT&T and not directly from Google, or vise versa? We only have a 14 day window to return these to AT&T if we are not happy. Unfortunately, I have a feeling we'll find out where the OS updates come from (Google or AT&T) WAY after the 14 day return window.
[Nexus 6  General] joshpdavis80:
I confirmed this with a Director over the Moto 6 and Moto X at Motorola. All Nexus 6, regardless of where purchased will get software updates directly from Google. The only difference in the At&t version is that it has a logo on the back and it is carrier locked. If you are not in a contract with At&t you can request an unlock code so that you can use the phone on another carrier.
[Nexus 6  General] TheMFTruth:
I placed my order around 10:50 PM CST on the 11th and immediately got the pending charge for taxes. Checked earlier and the charge was gone. Not sure what that means or if that helps. Shipping date is still holding steady at the 18th to the 19th so hopefully I'll get a shipping notification tomorrow.
[Nexus 6  General] moopile:
I lollygagged and didn't get mine ordered until around 2:35am (central time) on 11/12. That day it showed my taxes as pending with my bank. 11/16/14 the pending charge went away and no longer shows up on my bank acct at all.

My order status still shows: Preorder Processing - Expected Ship Date: 11/18/14 - 11/19/14 .
[Nexus 6  General] 3's&7's:
Order Date: 11/14/2014

Order status: Preparing To Ship

Estimated Ship Date: 11/18 - 11/19/2014
[Nexus 6  General] Gardrek:
I work for an AT&T COR store. The pending charge is meaningless. It's just so the store/site can make sure that the card actually has money on it at the time of purchase and for security purposes. Every phone gets it on direct fulfill and some take longer to fade. You only actually pay when it ships. And as far as ship dates it's almost always worst case scenario, as my customers who ordered a 6 plus got them in a third to half the projected time. You literally just have to wait until you get a shipped notification, which is frustrating. As far as getting them unlocked, AT&T won't unlock the phone until you've had it for 6 months even when you pay full price. Very, very rarely do they make exceptions.

And please don't mistake me for defending our processes, I'm merely clarifying. Also, the preparing to ship only means that the paperwork is done. You don't actually have a phone set aside yet.
[Nexus 6  General] caspersfi:
Lol, every time I get an email today and it's not AT&T with some good news it's gonna tick me off. ⏳
[Nexus 6  General] fleadog99:
Does anyone know if the preorders take any precedent over others? Ordered on the 11th on premier. Still says preparing to ship. Shipping between 14th-18th.
[Nexus 6  General] land2634:
I don't know what to believe anymore. I do know there are going to be a lot of upset people if their N6 doesn't ship today because on the product page it clearly states that it will ship by 11/18.
[Nexus 6  General] fleadog99:
That and leaving on Friday evening for the holiday for several days.
[Nexus 6  General] marper123:
Today has to be the day. My order clearly says by 11-18. I have been cool up until this point but if I don't get a ship notification today I'm going to have to have a long hard chat with a chat rep;) However I am very confident that anyone with an 11-14/11-18 ship by date will get a notice today from AT&T.
[Nexus 6  General] 413vzwh8r:
Order originally placed on the 13th, but at&t rubaredmy info in the system. So fixed it all on the 14th and bow still waiting for ship notification. Order page still says shipping 11/18-11/19. I somehow doubt at&t got that many orders to the point of anyone not shipping today. What wasreally weak was the lack of an option to use faster shipping. Only choice was whatever the free shipping is. Likely shipping by friggen pack mule...
[Nexus 6  General] LegacyKill3r:
so can you plz answer me this? I placed my order on Nov 15 and it said it would ship on Nov 18 , so I called yesterday to double check and rep said it would ship today. this morning i checked on the status and it said it was in back-order. does this mean they don't have enough phone on stock or that the warehouse haven't updated their system? :confused:
[Nexus 6  General] sabre31:
I would not sweat it guys I bought many phones from AT&T including iPhones and they always do this. You stuff may not even change or you may not even get a shipping notice and phone arrives tomorrow. Sometimes there shipping notice does not go out until 2-3am the day the phone is do to arrive. As long as you don't have any status where is says action needs to be taken you are all fine. Their shipping estimated are pretty accurate. When I ordered the iPhone 6 plus why shipping estimate went to 3 weeks out and it was dead accurate it shipped a few days before that 3 weeks was up.
[Nexus 6  General] marper123:
ATT is notorious for doing this very thing when the day of shipping comes low and behold the order status changes to back order. They screwed over thousands of iPhone customers like this recently and they were left waiting 2 months. My order still says preparing to ship but I ordered 4 minutes after they went live to avoid this scenario.
[Nexus 6  General] Fanaticalism:
I'm thinking a lot of people failed to read this part as they were placing their preorder:

"Note: Your item will be shipped on or after the estimated ship date provided when you placed your order. In-stock equipment is typically delivered within four business days (standard) or within two business days (priority) once it leaves our warehouse."
[Nexus 6  General] P1 Wookie:
I just ordered yesterday and my "shipping date range" is 11/20-11/24, although the e-mail and nexus 6 page still say will ship 11/18, so it's the waiting game I suppose. Unfortunately none of the shipping questions will probably be answered until later tonight. If mine doesn't ship today since the e-mail and order page said that, I will probably call up and try to con some money knocked off of my bill out of them :p
[Nexus 6  General] femmyade2001:
Good to know! And they won't unlock for about 6 months? O-U-C-H! The website wasn't going to let me simply pay full price anyway - it wanted me on a contract. Heck no!

Replacement battery for my Nexus 4 should arrive in two days. I'll be on the Nexus 4 until Motorola/Play Store gets the device in stock. Hopefully by mid January 2015 :cool:
[Nexus 6  General] bodosom:
There's a lack of consistency. When I asked about unlocking they said customers in good standing could get phones unlocked within 30 days. Long term customers could get phones unlocked immediately.

I hadn't heard that Next wasn't available to all customers. I could go contract, Next or full price. I'm FAN/Premier customer.

My order status is:

Preorder Processing

Expected Ship Date: 11/18/2014 To 11/19/2014

and the three pending charges remain on my credit card. They have four weeks to complete those transactions. Presumably the two validations for $1 will expire.

By the way both the iPhone 5s and iPhone 6 we ordered had 4-6 week delivery estimates. Both arrived within a week.
[Nexus 6  General] P1 Wookie:
I decided to take to twitter asking the AT&T accounts about Qi wireless charging and I got a response a little bit ago. They said it will have the Qi standard out of the box. I know it's just reps handling the twitter accounts, so I guess you could take it for what it's worth for that, but they did come straight out with the answer, no beating around the bush.
[Nexus 6  General] Plexicle:
1) Why in the world wouldn't it support Qi? It's built in to the hardware.

2) No offense-- your Twitter picture is cringey. I'm going to +1 your post to offset this quasi-insult. I reserve the right to take it back pending your response, if any. :)
[Nexus 6  General] P1 Wookie:
I just like the movie.

And AT&T has pulled Qi out of phones before, and I've seen several people on here skeptical on whether AT&T would tamper with it, so I asked.
[Nexus 6  General] marper123:
If they are delayed because they are having to stamp there logo and put them in orange boxes I am going to be furious. Sprint customers are getting shipping notices but still nothing from AT&T at this point.
[Nexus 6  General] Plexicle:
Because of the G3 thing? I get that.

If they tampered with Nexus hardware, though, heads would roll.
[Nexus 6  General] CraigP17:
I ordered on 11/14. I have the same exact order status. I am also Premier. I have only 1 pending charge now for the tax $40.98, the $1 has disapeared.
[Nexus 6  General] Plexicle:
Reddit user confirms you can skip the bloat install by not inserting the SIM until after Android setup. We could have most likely deduced this, but good to know either way.

http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus6/comments/2mnx42/att_bloatware/

Not a super big deal because you can just uninstall the apps (they would obviously be installed on the data partition).

Basic first steps when you get your new Nexus 6, in order:

Boot up and quickly skip through Android setup.

Enable Developer options button.

Check "Allow OEM Unlock" in Developer options.

Boot to fastboot menu.

Fastboot oem unlock / wipe.

Boot up and go through Android setup for real this time (with WiFi).

Shut down and insert SIM.

All done! Unlocked, all set up, and no bloat.
[Nexus 6  General] digthemlows:
Every phone I've ordered from AT&T comes with Sim already installed.......... would the above still apply? .........
[Nexus 6  General] Plexicle:
I seem to remember them not being inserted when upgrade phones were shipped to me. In any case, yes, it still applies. Just remove the SIM when you get the phone. As long as it's not inserted before you run through setup after you wipe it.
[Nexus 6  General] Pyros2008:
Has anyone gotten one yet and if so, is it locked? From the last few pages, it sounds like they'll be locked and we'll have to fight with ATT simply hoping they will unlock the device.

I'm planning on getting it through either Next or a Two year contract, maybe that excludes me from unlocking altogether, in which case forget the 6 and ATT...
[Nexus 6  General] ingrown:
It's probably carrier locked, but I doubt they've locked the bootloader. You never know, though.
[Nexus 6  General] dca1970:
To those people that were able to track order on Myups, how did you get tracking number? Or did it just show up under your name and address?
[Nexus 6  General] Plexicle:
What are you talking about last few pages? Nothing is going to be locked.

At worst, you will have a hard time activating a phone on a CDMA network that you bought directly from a different network. That doesn't really have anything to do with locking the device. AT&T also isn't a CDMA network so that doesn't even affect us.

If you're talking about bootloader locks and not network/SIM locks, then I would have nothing to worry about. They are not going to lock down the bootloader. No way.
[Nexus 6  General] apascual89:
I believe ATT ships FedEx
[Nexus 6  General] caspersfi:
Just called AT&T. My order is on backorder. Obviously couldn't give me any estimation on when stock will be replenished.

This sucks......

BTW I placed my order last Thursday.
[Nexus 6  General] moopile:
As [MENTION=4493228]Plexicle[/MENTION] said ..... If its an upgrade, SIM card will NOT be inserted and activated. If so, your current phone line (that your upgrading) would quit working due to the new SIM being activated.

[MENTION=4493228]Plexicle[/MENTION] - Thanks for the Reddit info!!!!!!!