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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] muzzy996:
Not surprised. Haven't cancelled my account yet but intend to by the end of the week. The whole excercise reminded me how much I hate their customer service though. Its not fair to judge an entire company by a couple of bad local corporate stores but I can't help it sometimes since in the end it's the local stores that I go to for support when all else fails. So where do you turn when you're frustrated with an issue and the local folks are either not knowledgeable or don't care. What blew me away was the fact that while you can open an account at a local corporate store they'll refuse to let you close it . . instead you have to call customer service at which point I'm sure I'll have to go through my break-up speech and listen to their pitch.

Meh . . 1st world problems LOL . . I fully recognize that I chose the path I was on so as each challenge comes up I just take a deep breath and remind myself that its my fault LOL. Its their network, their devices and their rules.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] MattMJB0188:
Well it took several call attempts yesterday and I still couldn't get a North American rep. The guy I got from the Philippines asked me about several times to repeat the phone number on the account and I was saying it slowly. It was horrible.

Then I had to call today only to be told my unlock process was denied. You think they would have let me know that. Its also good to know that anyone who even has a postpaid account with them cannot unlock ANY device unless they use it for 2 months. RIDICULOUS policy. I don't see why they can't unlock it right away if ANYONE purchased it outright.

And yea, the corporate store staff were rude and ignorant, probably because I'm not a TMO customer. When I call AT&T, I don't deal with this BS.

EDIT: Speedtests on AT&T using N910T (LTE was actually faster on the TMO Note 4, versus my iPhone 5s.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] fcb1:
Well here's my story maybe it'll help people having issues with the t mobile version not getting lte

Well I was using an iPhone 5s when I bought the note 4 from t mobile. I went in and had to get a new sim card because i thought the nano sim would not work. I brought in my old s3 to get a new sim card so it's not activated on a t mobile phone. I put it in the s3 for a few minutes and make a phone call. I switch to the note 4 and it took forget to acquire service but when i did it was only 4g not lte. I kept playing with apn settings but nothing worked. I figured I would just let it sit maybe it would finally kick in until i realize at&t has it listed as a blackberry. I go into at&t and they tell me that they have a t mobile note 4 on file which didn't make sense because i never gave them my imei number. So thankfully i still have a dinky little iphone 5s laying around and i activate it with a new sim card and this time I use it for about an hour. At first i still want getting lte on the iPhone but after about 15 minutes i finally got lte again on the iPhone. I decide to go for a long shot and stick in the nano sim from the iPhone and it works just fine surprisingly without an adapter. Now I'm having lte on my note 4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ElAguila:
I downloaded lte discovery and it shows that I am on lte on band 2. Does that sound right for here in the southern US?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] MattMJB0188:
I also came from an iPhone 5s. I had a micro sim adapter lying around. I didn't even call ATT and I am getting perfect LTE speeds. The screen shot above was taken during a busy time lol. If you want a micro sim I recommend calling care and having them send you one for free, then calling them to activate it and supplying them your iPhone 5s IMEI.

Anyone have any luck with a visual voicemai

My TMO Note 4 has been connecting to band 17 and band 2 LTE. AT&T is starting to implement band 2 PCS 1900 for capacity and carrier aggregation. Some of the load on band 17 should come down.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Cfused:
Sorry if this has been answered before I know that stock tmobile rom works on ATT but will Tmobile custom roms work on ATT after getting root?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] fcb1:
The iPhone nano sim works just fine for me without a sim adapter on my note 4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] LouK:
Short answer YES!

You"ll have to install a custom recovery first.

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-tmobile/orig-development/tool-utility-twrp-2-8-1-0-teamwin-t2915588

As to Roms I've used FireKat and Dynanic Kat. Both are graet

Right now I'm on Dynamic, It will work on ATT as is and includes many customizations including changing the boot animation and data Icons to ATT's.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] soraxd:
I can confirm after using my international Galaxy S III on AT&T with my unlimited I internet for $10 a month, one day my bill jumped to $30 for 2 gigs. I've never called AT&T, so they found out what phone I had without me giving them any information.

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I own a Galaxy S 4 that cut ties with at&t with a $600 bill on the account, and I am able to use it on dundundunnnn AT&T! so AT&T doesn't even blacklist for nonpayment within their own system
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] MattMJB0188:
Today my internet on my T-Mobile Note 4 randomly lost its data. It still showed LTE and H+ when forced to that. Nothing would connect though. My ATT online account still showed my 5s. I rebooted the phone and all was fine. Just thought I'd share this info. For all I know this could have been rom related. ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] soraxd:
well I know your phones signal and bars don't just show your providers, meaning it could be picking up another carriers signal that you can't connect to. the people in this thread claim at&t and tmobile use completely identical bands, but your story seems to indicate otherwise. what part of the country do you live?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jlczl:
What you've described has happened to me at one point or another on practically every cell phone I've ever owned. I doubt it has anything to do with using a T-Mobile version on at&t.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] MattMJB0188:
Unlikely, but possibly. I think it was something to do with adblock. I know adblock doesn't always place nice with phones, especially MMS. I'll report back if it does it again. But I have been rocking my Note 4 on AT&T and loving it. :cool::cool::cool:

I have never seen it happen on an iPhone, but on other Androids. Will report back if it happens again.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] LouK:
I have had this happening to me as I drive around town (NYC).

In my home I am get excellent ~25 - 29 mps service, as I go around town this can drop to Edge speeds (yuk)..

FYI: My account is still showing that I am using my ATT Note3

even though MY wife has it. And Her account is showing her old old S4.!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dansshin:
Looks like I'm going the opposite way from you guys but have some questions I'm hoping you guys can help with. I just unlocked my AT&T Note 4 and started new service with TMobile. After unlocking and inserting TMobile SIM I didn't get data right away until I checked "data roaming". It's strange since with AT&T I didn't need to enable that. Did you guys have to enable that for your TMobile Note 4 to work on TMobile network?

What have you guys done for below?

1. Visual Voicemail - In the phone dialer there is button for Visual Voicemail. My unlocked AT&T Note 4 will not connect to TMobile Visual Voicemail. I had to download TMobile Visual Voicemail app but Visual Voicemail button in the phone dialer only brings up the Visual Voicemail ( AT&T?) that came with my AT&T Note 4 which is not able to show me TMobile voicemails. How do you fix this?

2. What is the APN setting for TMobile that I should be using with Note 4? When I inserted my TMobile SIM it automatically created APN called epc.tmobile.com. But on my wife's AT&T iPhone 6+ it had fast.t-mobile.com APN.

By the way I'm getting any where from 25Mbs to 8Mbs down and 15Mbs to 8Mbs up on TMobile LTE.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] MattMJB0188:
You are in the minority, my friend lol. Personally, I'd just sell the AT&T version and recoup most of your costs now. Then buy the T-Mobile version. I don't believe there is any way you can get wifi calling on the AT&T variant. I know this isn't what you wanted to hear, but it may be your best bet.

Your T-Mobile APN should be:

Name : T-Mobile LTE

APN: fast.tmobile.com

MMSC: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc

MMS Protocol: WAP 2.0

MCC: 310

MNC: 260

APN Type: default,supl,admin,dun,mms
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dansshin:
Thanks for the APN info. I created this on my phone and will try it out. I can't say thought of selling and getting the TMobile version hasn't crossed my mind but so far issues have been very minor things like the visual voicemail. I'm just surprised these things are not configurable. My wife's iPhone 6+ switched over without any hitch.

I'm glad to leave my over charging AT&T service but it looks like you guys are using the TMobile phone on AT&T which is surprising to me. Why don't you use the TMobile service?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] MattMJB0188:
^ my iPad won't let me quote you. But I have tried T-Mobile on and off the past year and a half. I have seen their coverage drastically improve; however, it's still not that great. If I travel south of my house it's EDGE city. Not to mention when I travel, I like knowing that I'll have good service. t-Mobile was inconsistent, and often bounced back from E to 4G to LTE. T-Mobile's AWS 1700 frequencies don't cut it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mbonus:
People are using the t mobile device on att because the bootloader is unlockable and then you can run custom roms while remaining on att network.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dansshin:
So what does unlocked boot loader and custom rom get you? Do they work with S pen?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] LouK:
Yup.

I've used firekat and currently on dynamic Roms and s-pen apps work!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mbonus:
Addiction to rom flashing [emoji1]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] MattMJB0188:
Much better performance for your device, along with more customization. :D

Most custom roms are built using the stock base rom your phone ships with, only adding features and tweaking performance. Of course your S-Pen will work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] dansshin:
I stopped in at TMobile store to look at Note 4 and it seemed little quicker without any lag. I also noticed that it had WiFi calling option that AT&T one doesn't but with unlimited calling not sure if that is important. It would be nice to get rid of the AT&T stuff off my Note 4. However TMobile Note 4 doesn't seem to bring up the visual voicemail when using the button in the dialer. It just called your voicemail which seemed odd.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ElAguila:
I am getting poor lte speeds and I am not sure what I can do about it On my att account online it is showing up as a blackberry device. When I use apps like lte discovery or network signal info it says I am connected to the lte network. I got much better speeds with the note 3 at the house so I know it isn't a location issue.Is there anything that I can do with att to try to change this? I have an older skyrocket 2 that isn't being used and it was lte capable. Should I call them and give them the imei number from that and ask them to reprovision my sim? My other opt-in is to go online and go thru the activation process and if they ask for an imei, enter the one from the skyrocket 2. Any thoughts?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nosmohtac:
Thanks to all contributing to this thread. This is all very helpful in making my decision.

I have two more questions I hope someone can answer about the tmobile variant on the AT&T network.

1. This is far from a deal breaker, but has anyone had success or issues in areas with free at&t hot spots with this phone?

2. Has anyone had success using Google Wallet tap to pay with the Tmobile version?

TIA
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] done12many2:
1. That's another great benefit of using the T-Mobile variant. AT&T can't regulate the hop spot on it and it works right out of the box. I had AT&T unlimited data until recently and it worked perfectly. I've recently switched to a mobile share plan due to AT&T's data throttling on their unlimited plans. Tethering is unrestricted on mobile shared plans.

2. I don't use Wallet. I've been using Softcard since I still have free money left on the account.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nosmohtac:
I don't mean wireless hotspot, but rather places like starbucks and McDonald's. With my AT&T note 3 my phone auto connects without having to do the sign-in page at all AT&T provided hot-spots.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Pick_A_Name:
That is just an app from AT&T. I haven't had time to try it yet, but it should work since you're connected to their network. I'll report back when I get time to test.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] blastedbilly:
About to bite the bullet and pick up a tmo note 4. What are you guys using for insurance?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spinedoc:
Anyone using a Tmobile on ATT with an ATT microcell? I'm about ready to make the switch, but don't have super reception at my house and the microcell helps a ton.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nosmohtac:
I too am about to bite the bullet and buy a Tmo note4. I dont have a tmo store anywhere near my home though. If I buy one off of Amazon, what is the model # on the Tmo version? I don't want to end up with the International version with no LTE.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] holywhitebread:
SM-N910T
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] SupacatSF:
If you are not worried about theft, I went with Square Trade. There are 40% coupons out there.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] blastedbilly:
Any updates on this? Has anyone who was having imei problems get them resolved?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tbong777:
There are a few on Swappa.com I just bought one. It is already rommed and has TWRP I ordered unlock code as buyer sent me the IEMI Should have the unlock before the phone gets here. There is another up there for less than $670
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tbong777:
I just bought a used one on SWPPA.COM $690 There are a few more there. I ordered my unlock code and have it for when the phone gets here. It is rooted and rommed but was not unlocked from T Mobile so I got the IMEI and bought and unlock code., Going to see if it works with ATT /LTE. Fingers crossed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Pick_A_Name:
I don't use insurance. It's never helped me when I used to pay for it, so I quit paying for it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spinedoc:
So no one has a microcell?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] blastedbilly:
I dont have a microcell, and am no expert on this matter. However i did have the sprint version awhile back (cant remember what its called now, airwave or something)

Anyway, as long as you dont have to put an app on the phone for it, i dont see why it wouldnt work. All it does is hook to your internet and put out an att signal, sort of like wifi calling. If youre using an att sim, then youre picking up att signal. As i stated, i had the sprint version so ymmv.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nosmohtac:
It will work with AT&T SIMcard installed, although you may have to submit your IMEI on the website to register the phone on the microcell. I don't know if that will cause issues or not.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ShrekOpher:
ATT LTE works great on the N910T. Been using it for weeks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spinedoc:
Thanks. There is a way to text message a new phone number to ATT and it will add this to the microcell, it doesn't ask for IMEI so I hope this works. I was hoping for someone who actually had a microcell to confirm this worked, but I suppose they are kind of rare in the wild. I love mine and it's a major reason I stay with ATT.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nosmohtac:
No problem, I don't use one but had to get one for my daughter for her college apartment. I had to set it up for her and couldn't remember if I had to include IMEI or not. I didn't think I had to though because you can add friends and family numbers to it and that would be a real pain to get all of their info just to share your microcell while visiting.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] BklynNetschamps:
So... is there a verdict on if we should get the Tmo Note 4 on AT&T? Apparently my local Tmo store has it in stock for $749 outright, but they also have the restocking fee... Best Buy said they don't have any stock but their trucks are coming in for BF so maybe its in there? And they don't have any restocking fee.

I would probably hold out for the BB version, but wondering if this whole LTE going away and ATT not giving it back is going to be a deterrent.... Can't wait to upgrade from my S4...

Yea/Nay?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jlczl:
I think the LTE issue has only been reported by a couple of people and most of us don't have the issue. I know I don't.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TheFletch:
I do have the LTE issue and don't know what I'll do yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tbong777:
I am expecting a used rooted 910T next week. If it doesn't work on AT&T I will sell it for $625 and just buy the AT&T version or switch to Verizon
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ShrekOpher:
It will work fine. Been using mine on ATT for a month.

-Shrek [N910T]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tbong777:
What APN do you have programmed?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ShrekOpher:
Screens below
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spinedoc:
What's the issue with ATT LTE? My ATT Note 4 is on swappa now, but if the Tmobile one has an issue with LTE then I might think twice about that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] drmodem:
getting the tmobile version

I will be receiving my tmobile version that i just purchased from Best Buy on Wednesday. I tried to purchase it at the local tmobile store, but the sales associate said there was no way to buy it without a plan. And i have no plan to switch from ATT ...

Anyway, I will be migrating the SIM from my Nokia 920 which runs fine at LTE, so I will update the thread with what happens once I get it unlocked. If LTE is jacked, I'll return it and will just deal with a locked ATT :crying:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ElAguila:
I have tried several apn's I get the best lte speeds with the att nextgenphone apn
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] drmodem:
Just received new T-Mobile Note 4

Ok, just to update the thread. I received my phone from Best Buy today (ordered it Saturday)- amazed it got here so fast!

Anyway, I got it unlocked via cellunlocker.net - 1 hr 20 minutes to get an unlock code - damn good :)

I pulled my SIM from my Nokia 920 and stuck it into the Note. BAM. Everything works on AT&T and I receive 4G/LTE logo. Speedtest.net says 39.5MBps down and 7.3 up.

We'll see see how long it lasts. AT&T's site still shows I have the Nokia. Now to clean this thing up - anyone know if AT&T has a voice over WiFi feature? The first error I got was that the VOIP wasn't working - I guess that's just a T-Mobile thing, so I turned it off. Now to figure out how to get my voicemail to work - what's considered the best app for voicemail?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] done12many2:
I personally use the Google Voice app for voicemail. Setup is as straightforward as following the setup prompts.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tbong777:
Put me down for "It works" on ATT, I called them and they provisioned me for LTE. However where I live there s not LTE. Have to drive about a mile to get it. My wife's ATT S4 is also saying 4G I think it will be fine.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Pick_A_Name:
I use Youmail for visual voicemail. And no AT&T doesn't have WiFi calling. I freeze that in TiBu.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ShrekOpher:
Use Google voice for visual voicemail. The voice mails will dump into your hangouts app. It even transcribes the voice message into text and you can listen to them straight from the hangouts app.

Also you can use your Google voice number to make WiFi calls through hangouts app well.

Sent from my SHIELD Tablet
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Pick_A_Name:
Do you have to use a new phone number? My sister just jumped into the world of smart phones (got a N4) at age 50 and wanted a way to get it transcribed. I didn't know anyone did it for free, but I'm not sure she would want to switch her phone number. Thanks!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ShrekOpher:
No need for a new phone or a new phone number. Steps:

1.) Setup a Google voice number on your computer. Pick a new number it will allow you to make WiFi calls and have free texts. Setup your Google voice to have calls made to your cell phone # forwarded to your Google voice.

2..)Download the Google voice app and log in. Set Google voice as your default voice mail on your phone. You must download the all to make this change in your phone settings.

3.) Go into your hangouts app settings and make sure all the notifications for forwarding Google voice to hangouts are checked

4.) Uninstall the Google voice app. You on my needed it to change the settings for your default voice mail.

That's it. Now you have free texting. You can cancel you provider texting plan.

You have free VOIP calling, it does use data though unless you are on WI-FI. YES you can make phone calls over you data plan. It's a great way to reduce the minutes you have to buy every month.

And you have free visual voice mail. It also transcribes voice mails as text, so you can read them if you don't want to listen to them.

I have been getting asked about this a bunch lately. Should I put together a detailed walk through in a new post?

Sent from my SHIELD Tablet
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Pick_A_Name:
So if people call my old number everything works as it was or everyone has to use the new number? Thanks for the info!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nosmohtac:
Works both ways. I give out my google voice number to local businesses, and everyone else has my old #.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Pick_A_Name:
That's great. Thanks for you help!

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One more question...is it still free to receive a text to your old number? Thanks!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ShrekOpher:
yes it will work normally.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jlczl:
Anyone else get an update today?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] imold:
How will TMobile owners get Lollipop update?

I'm thinking about TMobile phone on ATT, but what about when it's updated to Lollipop. How will the TMobile owners get around that?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nosmohtac:
I would think the worst case scenario would be to update it using Odin. Any one have previous experience with a Tmo phone on AT&T that received an update?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Venom0642:
Don't Think it can't happen since the phone is a T-Mobile device even if your sim is unlocked won't update AT&T ON A T-Mobile, why even bother if your on T-Mobile just flash a custom Rom Lollipop since bootloader is unlocked that would be only way! Or Odin
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jlczl:
Yup that's my thinking as well. As a matter of fact that's why I have the T Mobile note 4 instead of the AT&T version. I just haven't gotten around to it but I guess I will now since I don't really want to mess with this update.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nosmohtac:
Thanks, but I have used 100's of ROMs in the past and have never found one that is less buggy than stock. I have a Tmo note 4 on the way. Can you recommend a good ROM fairly bug free? I'm not trying to dog the developers here, their ROMs are usually way cooler and faster, but always miss something. I'd probably just Odin the update after reading pros and cons.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jlczl:
Well I can try taking the update when I get home and get back on wifi. I can check to see if it'll work if you want me to try it. What's the worst that can happen right?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ShrekOpher:
I have used 100s of ROMs that are better than stock. Don't take the OTA. It puts DT_IGNITE on your phone which is bad news.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Pick_A_Name:
I've been using FireKat with excellent results (I've personally gotten 6hrs SOT). And the dev is a great guy with a happy helpful thread. It is like stock only much better.