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[Nexus 6  General] crypt0kiddie:
I've held the Note 4 and several of my co-workers have the iPhone 6 Plus. All of them felt good in my hands so I assume from what I've read about the Nexus 6 feeling better than the N4, I'm sure it would be OK!

The more and more I'm reading I'm thinking the Nexus 6 might be the way go to since the Note 4 is locked down to tight and I want at least root. I was going to compromise on the Sammy S5 which is a great phone but this Nexus 6 is looking nice.

I think I can get over the battery not being removable. If it starts to crap out, I'll just buy a new one. I know you can replace them, they just don't quick swap like the Samsung phones.

Also as I said I have a 128gb microsd but on my S3 I'm running 16+16, so I think just having 32gb internal will be OK.

I really wish Google would F'ing listen to the people who want these phones, everyone WANTS a MicroSD slot. With a screen this size, I would like to keep a few HD full length movies on it but with only 32GB, I guess that won't happen.

Ah well, that is what Plex is for I guess.
[Nexus 6  General] TMYINC:
Did you activate it yet?
[Nexus 6  General] P1 Wookie:
I don't get LTE out here at the house, but that "4G LTE" icon you're used to seeing is an AT&T thing. All you'll see on here is just LTE.
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
Is there a chance that bootloader is locked ?
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
There's a chance until release and it's either confirmed or debunked. That's all anyone knows, at least anyone that's talking.
[Nexus 6  General] dadymon53:
I doubt it, I have the Nexus 7 2013, there is a one click method to unlock the bootloader and root, I suppose this method will be available for the Nexus 6! Once that's done where not dependent on what the carriers do. Usually when there is a update from Google, there are so many talented people will make a flashable zip. [emoji3]
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
I am new to android so bare with me. If the bootloader is locked does that mean game over, no rooting?
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
In most cases..... well..... root is most often acquired. It's not just that. Root is good. But if you want to be able to flash any kernel you want, you have to have an unlocked bootloader, root or not. There are some exceptions like Kexec but that's out of scope for a beginner discussion. The custom kernel is where the magic really happens. It's when you get not only software full control but you start getting full hardware control too. Things like cpu control, gpu control, audio processor control, and the device can suddenly become MUCH faster and customizable than before. It's what has traditionally made a Nexus a Nexus. Full user control. Not just root.

That's why most indicators are like every Nexus before it, the bootloader will be unlocked or easily unlock able...... (not to be confused with carrier locking) but with this release there's been almost no info and it's also the first Nexus to get released across all carriers. Carriers love to lock bootloaders.

Hence the hesitation to say it will certainly have an unlock able bootloader. [emoji1]

Rest assured, if the info we have today pans out, and all US versions of the N6 are identical, and all unlock able, the development community here for custom roms, kernels, etc..... WILL BE AMAZING! It will likely be so big it will Eclipse every other device released in the last few years I would say. Easily.
[Nexus 6  General] daddioj:
i for one DON'T want to root to delete bloat, there better NOT be any at all. i dont understand why carriers do not get we pay for there service!!!!!!!!! not there damn crap software. leave it on the playstore if we want it we can download it
[Nexus 6  General] eep2378:
If AT&T messes with this device at all, logos, bloat, etc. I will not buy it from them. I'll likely leave and cancel my service and go t mobile.
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
Awesome, thanks for explaining!
[Nexus 6  General] hotleadsingerguy:
This is what I was thinking. My family now has a Next plan because my dad works for AT&T and gets like 60% off the bill (we went to their plan because I now pay $30/mo for unlimited everything and 10GB of data), and the Next plan means I'd pay $25/mo for the phone, with no interest and only like a $15 service fee. So for $15 total I can finance the phone for 18 months.

Definitely better than dropping $700 2 months before Christmas.
[Nexus 6  General] eep2378:
I just called my local at&t corporate store. I was told all details regarding launch, price, availability, etc will be released this Friday, Halloween.
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
That does align with what the VZW rep told me over the weekend. She said check in about a week..... Which at face value was just blowing me off but it was the way she said it..... As if she was reading something on her screen but couldn't say anything..... Or it just me being hopeful...
[Nexus 6  General] GHOSTIVVI:
What will be the price? And will they be carrying 64 and 32gb? I assume the whole locked boot loader/carrier stamp they didn't know?
[Nexus 6  General] eep2378:
We'll find out friday hopefully :)
[Nexus 6  General] filmaker:
So which one is the better option? Buying it from AT&T using the Next Program, or doing the financing through Motorola. Currently I'm on the T-Mobile $30 plan, but I'm not opposed to switching (although I do like the price I pay through T-mobile and the 5GB of data).
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
Some if not all the carrier financed options are zero interest and little to no money down and offer service credits to boot.
[Nexus 6  General] filmaker:
Hmmm...interesting. T-Mobile and Sprint both want me to pay around 45% of the total cost down, while AT&T just has 0 dollars down. I understand T-Mobile and Sprint offering the large down payment (I'm a college student with no credit lol) but I wonder why AT&T is still 0 dollars down. And I wonder if the Motorola option will be better cause I could keep my current plan.
[Nexus 6  General] neyenlives:
Verizons Edge program charges you retail tax up front so... less than 100 bucks, a device like this would have a monthly payment of around 27 bucks but if you have the 10gb or higher shared data plan they credit you 25 bucks a month per smartphone purchased through Edge so it washes out basically.
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
boo, looks like we are missing out on the pre-order fun tomorrow :(
[Nexus 6  General] jonnydopemsr:
Pre-orders for sure start at Midnight Pacific Time.
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
Wow. I just chatted with a rep and they said the same thing !!
[Nexus 6  General] Baldilocks:
Kinda peeved that I can't get tethering working, even though it's included on my plan.

"There is a temporary network problem that prevents the enablement of the Mobile Hotstpot function. Please retry later."
[Nexus 6  General] Diviance:
Thanks Fedex for having the package at your facility an hour and a half from my house and doing jack all with it for an entire day today just because AT&T paid for 2 day shipping, not next day.

Fedex, you suck so much.
[Nexus 6  General] wfujay:
Yeah I did. I saw the LTE symbol flash up there for like a milisecond. Oh well, hopefully it'll start showing up.
[Nexus 6  General] sfidelisrp:
Are you running stock or is that with the unencrypted mod?
[Nexus 6  General] P1 Wookie:
Maybe it really is a network problem. I have a 30GB mobile share value plan and my hotspot turned on no problem.
[Nexus 6  General] TMYINC:
Might wanna airplane mode or reboot it and see if that helps. May have to reconnect to the network.
[Nexus 6  General] iboj007:
You can. Just need to add a line to the build.prop. Check my other thread specifically for the ATT version.
[Nexus 6  General] Baldilocks:
Stock.
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
All set up, unlocked, rooted in less than 3 minutes, this thing is a beast!

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] bodosom:
If you mean the standard Nexus LTE indicator then yes.
[Nexus 6  General] Baldilocks:
Yep, mine displays LTE.
[Nexus 6  General] gallinas2:
Factory image

Has anyone tried to install factory image on AT&T version? Just curios for later updates, i plan on purchasing one from AT&T tomorrow.
[Nexus 6  General] P1 Wookie:
It'll work fine. They're all the same build numbers.
[Nexus 6  General] Konikub:
So do this straight out of the box....do not turn it on first and play with it? No need to go to setting/developer options and check "Enable OEM Unlock" or "USB Debugging"?
[Nexus 6  General] gallinas2:
Awesome coming from nexus 5 it would be disappointing not to be able to load image as soon as it is released.
[Nexus 6  General] mtucker:
Will be calling and visiting my local stores tomorrow. One store that I visited tonight seemed to be be somewhat in the know. Said the manager got one a few days ago so they could play with it and said a few days ago the computer listed the Nexus 6 to hit on the 21st, but he hadn't hear anything and they did not have them in the back room (8:30PM PST). He gave me his cell number so I could text directly and warned me that they often don't answer the phone because they get too busy. One store put me on hold for a second and came back to say that it was delayed because of a software problem. I told him ATT.com had them for purchase. He said shipments would be delayed until the SW problem was figured out. When I told him that ATT.com orders were being delivered today to many people, he didn't know what to say.

Even the website seems a bit confused. First picture is from 9:32PM PST, second is from 9:33PM PST, and then a few minutes later it went back to "this item may be available for purchase at a store near you".
[Nexus 6  General] wfujay:
How do you put it into airplane mode? Sorry this is my first nexus device and I'm not too familiar yet. But damn this is an awesome device so far!
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
Pull down the notification bar, then pull down again and the icon is there.

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] DA6030:
I was thinking today about what Verizon's likely to do, and was reminded of the open device provisions placed on the upper 700 Mhz C-block, which I think are what prevent Verizon from SIM-locking their handsets.

I'm not a lawyer, but I think the AT&T Nexus 6 crosses into new legal territory - it's the first fully Verizon-compatible handset to ship with a SIM lock. I think it would be a weak interpretation of the FCC requirements to postulate that only devices sold by Verizon need to comply with the FCC open device requirements, as opposed to all devices that can operate in the upper 700 Mhz C-block (which includes ALL current variants of the Nexus 6).

In other words, one could make the argument that because the AT&T Nexus 6 is advertised as operating on Verizon's radio bands, then it should conform to the FCC requirements for those bands (including SIM unlocked).

For those unfamiliar, a short introduction to the FCC requirements for the upper 700 Mhz C-block: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_2008_wireless_spectrum_auction#Google_involvement

The only precedent I can think of might be an iPhone. I don't know as much about iPhone radio bands, but based on how many niche SKU variants Apple has, I'm guessing they get around this by not shipping any AT&T-branded phones that also support Verizon LTE -- can anyone confirm?
[Nexus 6  General] moopile:
Mine failed to activate!!! Didn't find out until I woke up at 1030pm. Will take it to ATT store in the morning. I hate dealing with them on the phone.
[Nexus 6  General] alhadee12:
Did it come in that ugly orange box?
[Nexus 6  General] moopile:
No, they come in Nexus 6 boxes.
[Nexus 6  General] purpl3rain:
Correct.

I did all the aforementioned steps the very first time I got the phone. Never booted into android. From receiving package, to opening box and straight into those steps. I couldn't enable the oem unlock option because I never booted into the os prior to those steps.
[Nexus 6  General] alhadee12:
Thanks, I can't stand that box. Are you enjoying the Googleness?
[Nexus 6  General] moopile:
Nope. Stayed up and waited for Fed-Ex to deliver. Went to activation page to activate and fell asleep waiting. Woke up after 10pm to get ready for work and saw the activation failed.

Gonna get on wi-fi in a minute and peek around. Not going to do much as I will wipe it when I unlock B/L and root later today.

Hope I don't break the piece extruding from bottom speaker grill. Coming from a Note 3 I keep pressing it thinking its the Home key. :)
[Nexus 6  General] alhadee12:
Mine is due to arrive today. I've been waiting, but it'll be a long day because I'm working a 12 hour shift. [emoji16]
[Nexus 6  General] phab3k:
came in a regular nexus box. only at&t anything that was present was the activation instructions pamphlet.
[Nexus 6  General] alhadee12:
Thanks because I hate that box. It takes away from the unboxing experience. Lol.
[Nexus 6  General] atcchris:
Haha! Pure gold cell phone humor. :laugh:

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I got mine yesterday and had the bootloader unlocked within 5 minutes of opening the box. I have not applied root yet, because it was getiing close to 10pm and I wanted to call ATT to activate, because of some weirdness with my pre-order.

However, i did scrape off the Death Star. It was so easy to do it was actually comical. I could have done it with a finger nail i think, but I used a ceramic kitchen knife.

After work today it is time for TWRP and root, then removal of the horrible ATT boot logo. More because of the annoying SOUND than the fact that it is there. While I am at it, should i go ahead and decrypt it? Just wondering if y'all truly think that is a benefit?
[Nexus 6  General] P1 Wookie:
From what I've seen the performance improves significantly. I can't speak from experience as I disabled it before even really using the phone. Just what others have stated.
[Nexus 6  General] PR0SP3R:
Worst Buy now has a product page up (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/motorol...at-t/1367386.p?id=1219489109609&skuId=1367386).

$249.99

With new 2-year contract

$34.15/month

For 20 months with AT&T Next*

$28.46/month

For 24 months with AT&T Next*

$22.77/month

For 30 months with AT&T Next*

$649.99

Replacement device

Can't order, upgrade or pick-up in store tho. Nevertheless, 10% will be used to buy outright...
[Nexus 6  General] marper123:
I did not want to burst any ones bubble but this is true. Fedex will not deliver a package early even if its within there capacity to do so. If its 2 day they will make it 2 days. USPS is the only carrier that will deliver as soon as they can regardless of the shipping quote.
[Nexus 6  General] Diviance:
And this is why I ship everything I need to ship through USPS. Because UPS and Fedex suck.
[Nexus 6  General] Cfused:
I just got my phone yesterday and I've been playing around on it. I noticed that I have something running called "SprintDM" Anyone know what that is? I thought it was weird to have a sprint program running from an AT&T phone.
[Nexus 6  General] oldblue910:
Because the AT&T version uses the exact same ROM as every other Nexus 6 sold in the US, it has a couple of behind-the-scenes apps that allow the CDMA functionality for Sprint, US Cellular, and Verizon. That's one of them. It's nothing sinister.
[Nexus 6  General] wfujay:
Thanks but the indicator is working fine. I've just been on WiFi almost the entire time and it doesn't show when connected to WiFi, so there was probably nothing wrong in the first place. Huge derp on my part. :p
[Nexus 6  General] land2634:
Has anyone else noticed that the cameras are incredibly dark? What I mean: Last night, my girlfriend started a video call on Hangouts. Despite having 2 lamps on in the room, she couldn't see anything more than an outline of my face. Even switching to the back camera, the only way she could see anything was if it was directly in a bright light. Double checked by calling her back on my M8, and everything was fine. Can anyone else check this?
[Nexus 6  General] jj14:
Androidpolice had reported that Google may be checking the entire system partition as a whole to see if ti was modified (for delivering OTAs in the near future). If they do so, and you have any change to the system partition (even if you changed it and reverted it back), OTA will fail.

It is fairly easy to just reflash the original system image and get back to stock though - besides, as [MENTION=2872010]rootSU[/MENTION] always says, if you are rooted, why would you want to take OTA? Just flash the new system image and move on!
[Nexus 6  General] rambo6:
I'm sure the boot loader will be locked. That's AT&T. It is SIM locked.
[Nexus 6  General] jj14:
No, the bootloader is not locked (just helped a friend unlock his bootloader on his ATT N6)
[Nexus 6  General] Cryptecks:
DAMN!

I finally got paid this morning and went to order the phone.. and of course, after literally a week of being open to Pre-Order, I get the 'Out of Stock Online' message. I couldn't be more disappointed right now, I was very excited to get this ordered and on the way today.

https://www.att.com/cellphones/motorola/nexus-6.html#fbid=XoN5qPUrLTI?sku=sku7461149
[Nexus 6  General] soulctcher:
Here's the latest in my area:

Our local AT&T store had 5 phones come in yesterday. They set 2 aside for us, but when we went to pick them up, we were told (no less than 5 minutes ago), that as of this morning, AT&T will not be selling this batch and that they're required to return the units due to a software load issue. The device they showed as an example of the problem was loading a half-screen and not booting up correctly. (I was not there to see it, but my wife was and described it to me over the phone.)

Granted, this is just one store's story, but let's hope this is just an anomaly.
[Nexus 6  General] P1 Wookie:
Yeah it won't show if you're on WiFi unless you get an MMS or something
[Nexus 6  General] byuboy87:
yea, I noticed that this morning.. try going into a store or a best buy, they have them in stock
[Nexus 6  General] purpl3rain:
It's not locked. I unlocked mine, as well as many other AT&T N6s. The possibility is always out there in the future, but not the N6s thus far, and let's hope it stays that way.
[Nexus 6  General] sfidelisrp:
That's weird, I can't even get into the 40s.
[Nexus 6  General] femmyade2001:
BB seems to only have it for online orders
[Nexus 6  General] mtucker:
Hmmmm. I guess the store I talked to last night that said there was a SW problem wasn't confused. I thought they were nuts when they told me that, but it looks like another store is claiming the same thing. I'm in N. San Diego.
[Nexus 6  General] dadymon53:
Crap! Just left my Att corporate store, they didn't get there shipment in yet!
[Nexus 6  General] PR0SP3R:
Wonder if these 2 cases are related...

http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus6/comments/2mt5up/my_nexus_6_came_today_with_a_defective_screen/
[Nexus 6  General] clothednblack:
Has anyone gotten busybox to install and how on earth do I take a screenshot? Lol its great to be a noob again.

Sent from my Nexus 6

Edit: power and volume down for screenshot, still no busybox.
[Nexus 6  General] soulctcher:
Possibly, but I doubt it. From what I was told, this was the bottom half of the screen and the phone didn't boot correctly at all.
[Nexus 6  General] FredSanbo:
If I root and unlock straight outta the box will it affect the activation from att?
[Nexus 6  General] Claussm:
You've gotta power on to check the "OEM Unlock" option in dev settings anyway. What I did was: activate it first thing as I went through the initial setup. I skipped through pretty much everything just to get to settings so I could check the OEM box. Then I: powered off, unlocked the bootloader, immediately rooted with CF, powered on, and went through the setup again for real (Tap & Go, WiFi, etc..) THEN you just have to use ES or something to remove/rename the AT&T boot image and grab some scissors or a knife for your tramp stamp. ;)
[Nexus 6  General] FredSanbo:
Awesome! I cant wait to do this if my phone comes today. USPS says its esrimated delivery date is today but the last place the device was scanned was in TX yesterday morning and im in NJ. Hopefully it comes today *fingers crossed*
[Nexus 6  General] atcchris:
Well, all I can tell you is that I unlocked before activating and had no problems. I did not root yet at all, but looking back at some of the others in this thread, it seems like they haven't had any issues.
[Nexus 6  General] jj14:
I'd suggest booting up, and installing the OTA before you root. Once you root, it modifies the system partition, and going forward (post 5.0), you can't take an OTA where the system partition has been changed at all.

(I don't know about activation though)
[Nexus 6  General] femmyade2001:
Just came back from my AT&T store - they cannot sell the devices they have because of software problem. How cool is that?

Question - is this the most chaotic Nexus sale ever? Its my first nexus buy and i find it a little weird that i have $800 in hand for a device and cant even lay hands on one. Just wondering if it was this bad for the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 releases.

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Yeah i'm actually fine with 32GB but it's proving impossible to get as well. AT&T stores can't sell them, and BB doesn't have them. I guess i'll just wait it out.
[Nexus 6  General] Cryptecks:
Yep here's the official news and image of the memo from AT&T Corporate: http://www.droid-life.com/2014/11/2...p-nexus-6-inventory-back-due-to-software-bug/

I'm getting really frustrated by all of this crap, and I'm extremely close to just picking up the new Moto X or the G3 and being perfectly happy with it.
[Nexus 6  General] Plexicle:
Yeah, just heard.
[Nexus 6  General] bodosom:
I didn't notice an OTA. What's the resulting Kernel/Build?
[Nexus 6  General] compuw22c:
Tl;dr, we noticed a few devices didn't have our logo and/or boot animation on them and we can't let people buy a phone the way they actually want to.
[Nexus 6  General] dligon:
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus...tt-and-sprint?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=dlvrit
[Nexus 6  General] jj14:
http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/general/ref-nexus-6-stock-ota-urls-t2906493
[Nexus 6  General] bodosom:
It's puzzling that no one that pre-ordered and has a phone has mentioned this issue.
[Nexus 6  General] PR0SP3R:
Try checking one out.

ProTip: You can't.
[Nexus 6  General] mtucker:
So I suppose batches that are due to arrive in a few days or next week are OK. Don't they know we can just load the stock images ourselves :) Really wanted to have it for the weekend, but I suppose I can stop obsessing about it for now and pick up next week.
[Nexus 6  General] bodosom:
This is the first Nexus device that was "intended" to be available at launch via multiple carriers. Although Google may be clueless about selling phones you'd expect Motorola would know how to do it and would keep them from foot-shooting.
[Nexus 6  General] land2634:
I'd imagine that it actually isn't all of the devices that were shipped to AT&T stores. My guess would be that there is a bad connection somewhere with a ribbon cable or something, but Motorola identified that devices having that issue were in a production batch that was shipped to AT&T stores. I think they probably just don't want to deal with the hassle and bad publicity of having so many people complaining about quality control. Not that they won't still deal with some of it, but I think in their eyes, it's minimized a bit by proactively making sure they sell as few of the defective devices as possible.