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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dgutierrez04:
I believe verizon sent out a bad update. I have also heard of regular people not rooted that is doing the same having random reboots. The only way to know is to have regular people to run the update for 2 days without rooting it to see if it reboots. And have them report it on here for the community to know before they root it. Just my 2cents. Im still on the NC5 update rooted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] vwpiper:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=56128997

Seems to be a common problem.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sakarha:
I'm not having any reboot issues ATM with my rooted s4 on NG6. Most things are working fine (TB, BusyBox), but I totally must have newbed because when I tried flashing to a custom recovery with Rom Manager/TWRP Manager, my gs4 now only loads download mode...no recovery screen has been loading for me whatsoever. deviouskind has the same exact issue here: http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s4-verizon/help/recovery-playstore-twrp-t2907731. I should have waited to see if flashing to custom recovery had been tested yet I suppose :crying:

EDIT: NVM. My phone just rebooted randomly. sweeet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rsswga:
I did a factory rest/wipe

Odin nc5...i already had the nc6 update on my sdcard..i did a battery pull after the odin..went to recovery and did a update nc6...then i rooted.

No restarting or any issues
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rcbjr2:
OTA Update Fails

What if the OTA update consistently fails to install? What do we do then? Is it failing because my phone is already rooted with Towelroot and or that I have KNOX turned off? It gets about a quarter of the way thru the install (based on the green bar) and then quits. Thanks!

NEVER MIND! I should have read more of this thread before replying. I see the note about taking the phone back to a non-rooted NC5. Thanks!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Fyrhtu:
Same issue here, as well. :( Hopefully we'll either see a new (fixed) update from Verizon, or someone will find the issue with the kernel we're using- I'd think it's got to be one of the two.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rsswga:
so much for what I did..started about 4 hours constant restarts and even restarts while on the phone.

what a piece of work Verizon

NC 5 ftw. .
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Zelmo88:
I gave up and went back to NC5. I used the "full wipe" ODIN tar in Surge's link: Surge's NC5 Odin tars. No more reboots and everything working again!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sakarha:
haha, yeah, I'll most likely end up doing this myself because 1 I can't boot recovery mode and 2 I can't stand the thought of having a dysfunctional version installed :rolleyes:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] spyderveloce:
Did this last night after running the NG6 update only to find I'd lost root AND the ability to write to the SD card via Xplore and any other file explorer other than the rather limited built in one.

Happy to say that I haven't had a single reboot or error since. Of course I had restored my GS4 to stock with root just before the update. Not sure if that had anything to do with it going so smoothly or I just got lucky.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] kwhatley:
Root boot loop

I am stuck in a boot loop.

I'm good up to using Towel to "Make it Ra1n." I get the error message that "This phone isn't currently supported."

Samsung G4 on Verizon and just got forced system upgrade to NG6 and lost my previous root.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Cdpupjones:
Trying to understand

How do u flash it dont understand the process and did you have to have had ur phone rooted at one poimt in time to do this
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BuffaloChips:
Followed this and afterwards I couldn't get Safestrap to work. It will install but won't allow booting into recovery. It says "not active."
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Fadtydawg:
Use Odin 3.09v and flash back to NC5 build.

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http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2905885

All your answers are here.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sheluvme:
rooted NG6 and now soft crash

Hi all, I rooted NG6 and I am now getting soft crashes pretty randomly when the screen disables goes into lock mode.

I am a complete noob on working with this, first time I ever worked with root files. Do I have any options to keep NG6 and be rooted but overcome this crashing problem?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rsswga:
I think Verizon sends out these bad updates so people will go buy there new phones

nc6 is crap
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] budies3:
Virus?

I'm sure its just my antivirus, but Eset don't like that Towelroot....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sakarha:
^^^the answer to every one of my issues lol. My phone runs flawlessly back on NC5 rooted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sheluvme:
can anyone help me with suggestions, what options do i have?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rsswga:
Odin to nc5
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sheluvme:
Hi RSSWGA,

when you say NC5, do you mean "full wipe" - I have never done this before. I am assuming I will lose everything on my phone, not on my sd card? Or am I able to do the "no-wipe" option?

should I reference this post here?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2735172

I ask because when I originally flashed to NC5 using the file in this post, so that I could use towelroot, my phone was EXTREMELY unstable (no wifi, and crashing). I was able to get towelroot to work and finally flash back to NG6. Will i get the same result if I flash the "No Wipe" on the other post I referenced?

If i do go and restor to NC5, I need to turn verizon auto updates off? Do you have a reference for that?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dgutierrez04:
U will need to freeze or remane 2 files located in system/apps. they r the SDM.apk and FWUPGRADE.apk u will find everything u need in this thread. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2360206
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] onelowzx6r:
Soft Brick/Crash Easy Fix

So while trying to flash CWM and TWRP on my SCH-I545VRUFNG6 I came accross the soft crash/brick as well. I see people are being told to reflash NC5. I found buried somewhere obscurely on the web was to simply:

1. Hold down power for 5-7 seconds until phone shuts off (or pull battery)

2. Then Hold VOL DOWN+HOME+POWER buttons until warning screen apprears

3. Lastly simply hit VOL DOWN to cancel and phone will reboot normally and will continue to boot normally from here on out.

One other thing, after doing this, when holding VOL UP+HOME+POWER it WILL fall back into this soft brick/crash. For me it was easier to simply do the above steps then re-flash everything as i didn't have the time. Everything works as is on my end including root is still there. For now I'll just be delighted with root and wait until a solution is presented to flash ROM's.

If I'm not mistaken though....can I re-flash NC5 and then root busybox and safestrap a new ROM? Am I reading that correctly?

thanks in advance

Jeffro
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] danielzink:
No love here either.

Phone was rooted w./ Towelroot.

I followed instructions as such:

Take the update

install towelroot v3

Odin 3.09 - ticked the "AP" box - installed NC5 - phone rebooted - then the phone would boot up - for about 30 seconds to a minute - then re-boot spontaneously. It continued to do this.

I finally got to the point where I could execute Towelroot (took approx 8 tries) and Towelroot says "this phone not supported".

So Odin'd back to NC6 and am waiting further instructions - with no root :D

Thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Fadtydawg:
I just did same. Install busy box app. Won't work..just do it. Then uninstall from app manager in device settings. Odin back NC5 again. Keep trying. Reboot phone if necessary. It will work.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] danielzink:
NC6 is spontaneously rebooting as well....no rhyme or reason...I'll try and access a program and reboot....bring up a browser and reboot....switch between home screens - reboot....

Excellent....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BuffaloChips:
I actually manager to Odin to this .tar (ALL_I545VRUEMK2_I545VZWEMK2_1937946_REV06_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5). Forget which thread I found it in, but it worked for mr to get back to NC5.

Funny thing is that before I got saddled with the NG^ update, Odin would fail on EVERYTHING I tried to install. Had to keep using Verizon's repair software. That is also the reason I got saddled with NG6 as well. Now, for whatever reason, Odin works for me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Allisonccp:
Will doing this wipe my phone?

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Also, does flashing to NC5 require hooking up to a PC?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dgutierrez04:
No it will not wipe the phone. And yes it requires u to used a PC to run odin
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Ethenolas:
thank you so much for this.

I was able to re-root and reflash and it worked. Not only that. My phone was randomly rebooting after the NC6 update and this seems to have fixed that as well. :good:

EDIT: I spoke too soon...it was running much better but I'm still getting random reboots....dammit
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] krnrice:
I flashed my phone to NC5, rooted using towelroot, then reflashed back to NG6. Does anyone know how to flash custom recovery? I downloaded and installed CMW but wont flash CMW recovery even though it say it did. I want to flash a new ROM since it is rooted :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] pwned3:
You can't flash a different recovery. If you want to go to a new ROM you will have to use safe strap. There are some good stickies that you should read before doing anything more to your phone.

Sent from my GT-I9505G using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2

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You can't flash a custom recovery. If you want to flash a different ROM then you will have to use safe strap

Sent from my GT-I9505G using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gneuf:
Knox Question

Does downgrading to NC5 to use towelroot and then upgrading back to NC6 trip the Knox flag?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] muniz_ri:
No.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gneuf:
Awesome! Looking forward to some rebootin', reloading action tonight!

Thanks so much!!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rust2dust:
I was rooted using towelroot ,flashed the NC6 update (as if they gave you a choice) the only thing I want back is my ability to move anything I want anywhere I want. I want my F#$!*^& es explorer back....when I found out what the update did as far as locking out my SD card, I almost threw my phone against the wall ........I was that pissed

One of the biggest reasons I got the s4 is that you didn't have to root it to get full access to your phone. If this is where smart phones and tablets are headed I might as well just start carrying my laptop with me for Internet and get a plain old phone. I've been an android guy since i was flashing custom roms on my OG Evo....this is not the way to keep us loyal. This is unforgivable.

Ok....my rant is over

Will the downgrade then flashing back to NC6 fix this problem?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gneuf:
Possibly the quickest and easiest downgrade/re-exploit in the history of Android!

Can't thank you enough!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] aaviator:
Safestrap Version?

Awesome, Thanks! What version of Safestrap should I use with NG6?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Emoraax:
Random restart fix

To fix the random restarts,download the Xposed Module- Samsung KitKat systemserver crash fix. It says it's for a different version but it has stopped every crash/reboot and I'm on the Verizon NG6 update. I have been going around posting this everywhere people have been having this problem. It works like a charm,no reboots since and i used to get almost 30 a day. Hope this works for everyone else.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] npjohnson:
This is a Glorious Find!

Please go to the General forum and create a new post about this!!!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sir_Eagle:
Just installed the module, hopefully this works.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Emoraax:
Hope so too!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] muniz_ri:
+1, let me know if decide to place this tip in a new thread. I will link to it in my OP. Great find!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Emoraax:
Created a thread for it- http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s4/general/fix-reboot-crash-problem-ng6-root-t2921584
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] muniz_ri:
Added link to notes section of the OP. Thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Emoraax:
I appreciate it. Hope it helps everyone. Thanks for the great guide.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tracker01:
my s4 will not take OTA it always fails when try to install it..

please advise..

got it...

is there rooted stock I545VRUFNG6 rom that we can flash with recovery?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rwestergren:
Root method worked great!

FYI: factory reset fixed the problem with NG6 random reboots for me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] muniz_ri:
I545VRUFNG6_100%_Stock_Rooted_ROM.zip

Added alternative I545VRUFNG6_100%_Stock_Rooted_ROM.zip method for Safestrap users to the OP.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] CliffyP:
I took the NG6 OTA by using repair assistant this morning, and followed the process. It works, but the hang ups/freezes after using ODIN to flash the NC5 kernel were a bear to get through - in the 30sec or so I'd have before I rebooted, I finally realized if I disabled sync and put it in airplane mode, I could get the phone to stay stable long enough for TowelRoot to finish. After that, it was smooth sailing. Thanks!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] EdrickMG:
good job

Real fast solution to keep root !! Delete Knox stuff I'm just trying to get rid off com.sec.knox.seandroid to be complete free of Knox but in general awesome ! Maybe it's my perception but Bluetooth and wifi it's alittle better but only perception good solution :good:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dgutierrez04:
If u cant get ride of the other knox. I recommend u download xposed. Is also in the OP. Os working like a charm from keeping the phone from rebooting. It was a great find. Just my 2 cents.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] muniz_ri:
Just added a Safestrap script to the OP under the Notes section that removes all applicable knox files including com.sec.knox.seandroid/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] EdrickMG:
I used titanium search with "Knox" and deleted two modules without name knox on them but referred to it, reboot and hoala..! xposed no longer advice of com.sec.knox.seandroid it's gone
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Fadtydawg:
Works like a charm!! Ty. Crash prevented. NG6.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Fadtydawg:
Working amazing muniz_ri :) Used Safestrap method. And then xposed for Samsung server crash. Runs like a champ! ! Thanks again.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Mionix:
All went well. Very helpful!

Thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ech1253:
Thank you, Muniz! Worked for me! (used the 7-step Towelroot method)... But I have a bit of a noob question... I cannot find any ROM's that show compatibility for NG6 update... Does anyone know of a solid ROM to use with this release? Does the latest Hyperdrive RLS19 work? If anyone has any suggestions they would be appreciated!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] srothkin:
I followed this procedure after updating my wife's phone OTA. I was finally (after 2 hours of struggling) able to get root back, stop the frequent reboots, complete the steps, and re-freeze out most of Knox.

However, Safestrap 1.72 (Safestrap-JFLTE-3.72-kk-B01.apk) won't run -- it keeps giving me "unfortunately safestrap has stopped" and every time I use SELinuxModeChanger to change to Permissive it gets almost immediately changed back to Enforcing.

So now I don't have access to the Safestrap recovery for backup/restore (including the backup I did before the OTA update).

How do I fix this?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] muniz_ri:
Use ss v3.75-A01: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=56030792
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] npjohnson:
Nope. None. B/c SafeStrap isn't (and most likely can never be) compatible due to SE Linux. Flash NC5 Stock Full-Wipe Tar to get to NC5, then use SafeStrap to flash ROMs.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] muniz_ri:
Any rom dev can take my ng6 stock rom and use it as a base so you may begin seeing some ng6 based rom's soon. In the meantime you can try any of the 4.4 roms and let us know how they work on the ng6 kernel. And ss v3.75-A01 is compatible with NG6 (edit: sort of...I'm hearing mixed msgs on this).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hollywood67:
Followed OP instructions exactly for safestrap users. "unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped"

read and re-read this thread entirely

can you help?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 06sharpshot:
Unfortunately I had to send my S4 to Samsung for repairs and the device I received back was on NG6. Since I didn't personally take an OTA, I just received a device with NG6 how can I tell if this process is compatible with my device?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] muniz_ri:
It is, you can begin from step 2.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 06sharpshot:
Thanks for the reply. I noticed a thread discussing being able to revert to nc5 so I did that and got back my old root capabilities and safestrap.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] npjohnson:
Just an FYI, I pulled together alot of stuff, and made the United Custom ROM Updater in the general section, it flashes the good stuff from the NG6 update, in a way that is not really ROM specific, so any NC5 ROM can be "upgraded" with those .zips's (It doesn't upgrade the kernel or the bootloader, and won't upgrade the system apps until I do some more research on what apk's TW ROM's use. But for ROMs like Eclipse that are half and half TW/AOSP, they most likely won't be updated for the NG6 kernel, so it will be useful for that.)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] muniz_ri:
Interesting! Thanks for jumping in there and contributing. So many contributers have moved on from the S4 that we need all the help we can get!

Also, one user just confirmed that the safestrap app continues to function normally after updating to NG6 using the "safestrap method" at the bottom of my OP. This has also been my experience when using that same method on my I337(I don't own an I545). That method relaxes some of the selinux policies set by the ota.

I encourage other safestrap users to give it a shot.

EDIT: Here is a video of my tester using the safestrap app on NG6 - https://www.dropbox.com/s/909wgrtupzib8dm/SCR_20141103_221331.mp4?dl=0
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ratsurprise:
just did the 7 step, phone crashes on reboot every time?

I just did the 7 step after receiving the NG6 update, was able to run TW3 in between crashes, however, phone continues to crash and restart? Now what?

:confused:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Fadtydawg:
ratsuprise.. to fix random reboots... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=56347472
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] muniz_ri:
Re-review the steps to determine which one you missed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ratsurprise:
OK, i got it!! I did miss a step not to mention my battery was damm near dead. thank youu, worked like a charrm!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ThaRockstar007:
frustrated

I jus got the VRUFNG6 as a replacement phone. I had trouble with my NC5 being recognized by my computer cause I don't have Internet on it. Kept saying needs Internet connection on computer. Is there any way at all to get my computer to recognize the device without Internet? I've never had a phone that I needed to do this with
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ChiragShah:
After root phone is continously rebooting

I followed the step mentioned to root my device.. but after that my phone is continuously rebooting. (home page and again rebooting..)

Baseband Version is : I545VRUFNG6

Will you help me to come out from this situation, I need quick help in this regard as i m not able to use my phone.

many thanks in advance.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] condiosfuerte:
THIS WILL HELP YOU

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2921584

Fix reboot/crash problem after ng6 root
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jetsman:
Ok so done all the above. The only thing I'm not understanding is when I download a file and boot into safe strap there's no download area for the file to go to. I can reboot and check through root explorer and find the SD card 0 but it's not showing in safestrap. Any ideas?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thehoagiehut:
help

I've been avoiding the OTA update until I accidentally touched the screen this morning. Now I am no longer rooted & suffering random reboots.

First thing first....need to get root back.

I downloaded towelroot v3 and tried to install but it says my phone is not recognized.

What do I do?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thehoagiehut:
I was able to make it to step 5. After towelroot rooted my phone, it said that my phone was rooted. The phone froze for a few seconds and rebooted. It continued to reboot repeatedly. I pulled the battery to stop the rebooting.

What should I do next?

Thanks for any help.

PROBLEM SOLVED. NO NEED TO RESPOND. THANK YOU
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] carzaddict:
what does that mean exactly? and how does this effect me for future releases?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] danishalirana:
Thanks

Just need to be patient with the Kernel Flashing..Otherwise all good..Thanks Again..

Cant live without a rooted phone got mine a week ago..But still rooting it :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] azngorilla:
Can someone clear some things up for me. I'm not new to custom roms, but this has been the first time that I've had to root a device to be able to flash a different recovery.

My question is: as of now, is safestrap the only way to use a custom rom on a ng6 verizon s4? I've tried CWM and PhilzTouch but both just yield the "system software not authorized by Verizon" message.

Do I have to go back down to nc5 to use safestrap? When I flashed to NC5 in this guide I would have maybe 60 seconds before my phone would crash and restart.

I just want to get rid of touchwiz. God do I hate touchwiz. How I yearn for something like cyanogenmod. My real issue (besides the random resets that I got after using odin to go back up to ng6) is that for some reason Android has been keeping my cpu awake for random long periods of time before I notice it which completely drains my battery while my phone is in my pocket.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gpz1100:
^^Sell your phone and get a MDK version. Or get a developer edition.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tmac5454:
Successfully got root with this method! Quick question... did anyone else randomly lose root a few days after completing?

Went to my root explorer app this evening and was told that I no longer had root - couldn't figure out why but simply flashed the NC5 Kernel, ran towelroot, and flashed the NG6 kernel and I'm back up and running - just not sure if there was something I did in between here and there that caused me to lose root.

Thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ddzado:
New guy here to S4 rooting and flashing. ADB on a mac should work? Or do I need a special tool? Wife's phone needs a make-over.

Edit:

Does Heimdall work? The file looks like the wrong format for this.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] XRSTOY1:
Just to be sure, when using the safe strap method, when you say wipe everything does that include the system as well? I made that mistake one time with very bad results.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dgutierrez04:
Yes he means also the system. But do not wipe ur SDCARD!

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No i havent lost root i believe u unrooted by mistake.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tmac5454:
That's what I figured. Thanks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ddzado:
Can we not flash a custom recovery via Odin on this? I've tried several time and I get a "Secure Magiccode check fail: recovery."

Any ideas?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dgutierrez04:
It will wipe everything even ur apps. But when u restore ur data everything will be back to normal like nothing happen. Safestrap will stay installed unless u uninstall it.

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