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[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sormus:
Ah, I was just wondering because I bought mine from a local electronics store. Haven't seen any localization on it so I'm guessing its also 'pure'
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
Size. I like large displays, but my LG G3 is just over the edge of comfortable to hold. I imagine a 6" display at till be beyond my grip.

Isn't the Pure Edition bootloader unlockable? I recall some Moto exec saying it would be.
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raze599:
It is but you have to do it through Motorola by asking for a code. On the old Moto X there was a "Dev Edition" which would let you unlock the bootloader but still keep the warranty. Whether that is the case or not for this new "pure" edition I don't know but my guess is that it would void the warranty.
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajbattaglia83:
Strictly because of size I would have paid the price of the nexus 6 if it was smaller. I'm happy with the moto x just wish it had the OIS in the camera
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djwyman:
I went moto x over nexus 6 because of size, and the fact that I was able to have a black phone with a leather back and red accents. Also now that the n6 is out I can add price to the list. The only thing the nexus 6 has that that I want is the google dialer.
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrick01:
Size and size.

Nexus owner for a while here. ( Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4 ).

Btw, I have a telus XT1097, and I can unlock the bootloader.

Hoping I can flash on this thing soon... a few things are bugging me...
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jfishel:
Nexus 6 screen size killed it for me. I have no idea who needs a phone that big.

I am curious if the AT&T branded Moto X 2014 will face the same carrier certification delays for Lollipop, or do they get updates as quickly as the standard unlocked versions will?

Also, do the AT&T branded versions have any bloatware on them? or the same experience as the unlocked ones you can get on the Motorola Website?
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
I looked at the 2014 X at the local AT&T store. It had a whole folder on the desktop full of carrier stuff.
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrick01:
I have nothing on my telus device. No bloatware.
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] durrell12:
You don't lose your warranty for unlocking the Pure Edition. It's exactly like the "Dev Edition", it just requires a code from Motorola instead of shipping unlocked. I have no idea why that is.

Also I picked the Moto X for the same reasons everyone else did - size. The Nexus is so big it's not even useful.
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
I think fears of "voiding your warranty" are overblown.

Have you ever heard of anyone actually being denied warranty service for unlocking their bootloader? I haven't... In fact just the opposite; people saying Motorola honored warranty service despite being unlocked.

In many US jurisdictions, it wouldn't be legal anyways, unless the company can show it was rooting that caused the failure.
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lw00d:
i dont like phablits... the moto x is a perfect size..
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stastnysnipes26:
Unlocking on the pure edition (2014) or the dev edition (2013) was confirmed by Motorola to NOT void your warranty. This has already been covered many times in the forums
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arrowsun:
Size. Now way I'm going 6 inch.
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stastnysnipes26:
I guess we've gotten to the point where you make up for your lack in size with your phone instead of your car/truck
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wutang200:
Size!!!
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdubya42:
Firstly, I had no idea the Nexus 6 would be available for VZW. I was sad at first that I jumped the gun on the X, but I realized I like my X better. I went from the Note 3 to the X, because I really wanted a smaller phone. Albeit I love the Nexus line, I just don't think I could deal with an even bigger phone than the Note. At this point I find it hard to use (I still use it as like a tablet). Also, I love my bamboo back.

Probably the biggest reason I do not want the 6 is because of the screen resolution. I really do NOT want anything larger than 1080. You will never see the difference on a phone screen and for that 805 to power 5.9 inches of qHD, it is going to DESTROY the battery. Plus, it is just much easier for the phone to run a 1080 screen. I'm sure the 6 won't lag, but I still don't want it.
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mayze23:
Way to big! I took my Nexus 7 and put it up to my ear to see what it would look like to use something that big as a phone. Ridiculous. Sure the N6 is not that big but it's not that far off.

BTW what are they going to name next years nexus phone?
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] termleech:
Actually I can confirm that HTC will NOT honor the warranty if you unlock or S-off they won't even honor the advantage screen repair. I just went through it.

However moto has said warranty is not void in dev edition for unlocking.
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raze599:
I just emailed Motorola about bootloader unlocking, this was their reply:

I told them I was talking about a pure edition so I guess it doesnt matter it will still invalidate your warranty.
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 0.0:
I'm confused now. I have a feeling customer support doesn't even know what's going on. When Punit Soni was still in charge and on the forums, both said unlocking the bootloader for the pure edition does not void warranty. It should be treated like the dev edition

sent from my Moto X (2014)
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mtoomey79:
The problem is no pure on VZW. At least not now. I wouldn't be surprised to see VZW issue a pure edition about six months in, then sit back and watch the $$$ roll in.
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 66racer:
Well I got my moto x over nexus 6 because I am impatient and didnt want to wait....lol well really it was because after living with my vzw note 2 (5.5") for almost 2 years (mostly on aosp roms) I decided a bit smaller would be easier to use one handed but didnt want too small and 5.2" seemed like a great compromise.

Camera and battery were my two worries with the phone but after owning it I think the reviewers are just jaded by all the new stuff they review. I get nearly the same battery life as I did on my note 2 and the camera isnt that bad. I kind of describe it as a 13MP note 2 quality picture. After all if I need a better shot I will go for an actual camera (oh sony a6000 how I want you). I will be keeping an eye on the nexus 6 after launch, the big battery is what I like the most about it but its 5.9" size (guess same height as iphone 6 plus?) may be a bit too much for me. I already have a samsung tab pro 8.4".
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raze599:
Nexus 6 is bigger than the iPhone plus actually. I was thinking the same thing, compared to our old phones, this one is going to be better full stop. For the reviewers though their job is to judge according to the similar phones of the same time therefore they can call something bad in relation to what other products are out but for us it may be perfectly good.
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 0.0:
Don't keep an eye on the Nexus 6. Keep an eye on phones with a snapdragon 810 ;)

sent from my Moto X (2014)
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jphilippon:
1) size

2) Motorola software/custom build

3) hardware problems with Nexus 5 on launch

Main reasons would have been price if it was announced before I bought the x. Only solidifies my decision.
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Restola:
Size
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] durrell12:
Even with that response I still feel like you just got someone who just doesn't know what they're talking about. Both the head of Motorola and the Motorola community manager have confirmed that "Pure" equals "Dev" and thus unlocking the bootloader doesn't invalidate your warranty. You're not warned that it invalidates your warranty when you are given the unlock code. I don't even see how it would be legal for them to invalidate the warranty for a phone they tout as being unlockable.

"I can confirm Punit's comment. Unlocking the bootloader on Moto X Pure will not void the warranty. We're treating it like a Developer Edition."

Source: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/677736c888?page=2
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] godutch:
and for the xt1092 (european unlocked)?
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Note10.1Dude:
Yes, that is the question now. The US unlocked is confirmed not to be voided, but policies could vary by country. I believe here (US) Motorola would have to prove the failure was somehow linked to or caused by unlocking the bootloader before they could void warranty.
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawon:
Got it as a free upgrade by Motorola from original. I wanted fill refund after a many mistakes by Motorola but settled with a free upgrade
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Judge584:
What a lucky man! And do you like it?
[X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawon:
I love it a lot. Briefly thought about getting nexus 6 with refund money but happy that they sent me new moto x.

Only three changes I'd make: larger battery, OIS camera, and actual stereo speakers in the front
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] captirwin:
:D I finally got it to work!!!

I have an XDA II mini and a Sandisk WiFi Card, 802.11b. All I got was choppy audio. Terrible...So, I got another WiFi Card. A GO WiFi P300, 802.11g. It works GREAT. I can highly recommend the GO WiFi P300 for the XDA II mini.:)

Anyone want to buy a Sandisk WiFi Card Cheap...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Carty:
It works with GPRS itself :P

www.PocketPC-Live.com
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] number16:
Well, these days wireless data easily costs more than long distance charge ... so making a long-D call through skype over GPRS probably costs you more than just calling long-D from your cell phone ... and calling direct gives you better quality too.
[T-Mobile LG G3] decaturbob:
So what are my choices for other carriers? I know verizon has different radio bands... Is ATT a possibility? I'm reaching the end of my patience with TMO.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Mnorton1228:
You've probably heard it before but I think Straight Talk is a great choice if you only need 3gb of high speed data. I just recently switched from TMO to ST using the ATT sim card. It works virtually flawlessly and I've had atleast 4g everywhere I've went (NW Georgia to E Kentucky so far). I got fed up with TMO when I left GA for work for the first time. It worked great in my little corner with flawless 4g LTE. However, as soon as I left and started travelling for work I got stuck with 2g service or wifi only. 2g is abysmal on TMO. It actually functions on ATT the few times I've had it.

So that's my suggestion. Paying off the phones and getting them unlocked was a fairly simple process as well.
[T-Mobile LG G3] mzrdisi:
I'll be switching to ATT service myself soon. Since T-Mobile wont' stand behind their products with my cracked phone they sold me. LG wants me to hold my phone hostage and then decide if it's actually a problem. Also annoyed by the fact that if you don't have LTE or HSPA service with TMUS, you basically have a dumb phone. And honestly, texts don't even function half the time outisde of their 3G/LTE areas.
[T-Mobile LG G3] decaturbob:
Is the tmo g3 radio compatible with ATT and ST for 4G LTE service?
[T-Mobile LG G3] anoymonos:
So what exactly is your problem with tmobile, you never stated.
[T-Mobile LG G3] BACARDILIMON:
I would never leave t mobile. Fix your issue with phone. If u pay off you still have issue on att. So fix what is bad. Lg and all the phone makers are the same. That us why you deal with t mobile for fix.

NOTE 4
[T-Mobile LG G3] JustLok:
No, LTE service on the D851 ONLY works with T-Mobile, but you will get the other bands ("4G"/3G/2G) with AT&T.
[T-Mobile LG G3] decaturbob:
I have NO issues with my G3 its T-Mobile. Their coverage is plain bad, no fixing that until they double the amount of cell towers. I looked at their coverage map before changing over and nowhere did it indicate the dead zones that we have found and TMO acknowledges. My wife has zero coverage in her office and would have to go a block or better to make a call and she works in Springfield where you would expect at least 2G everywhere but there are major dead zones. Major interstates lack complete coverage. I can understand state highways and secondary roads but interstates? T-Mobile messed my ETF reimbursement up, additionally T-Mobile "lost" my trade-in phones that they have had since first week of August....their online system sucks, I couldn't process an order and I spent almost 2 hrs working with their IT folks who finally gave up and acknowledge their portal has some issues. My Sim card faulted out and its gonna take 7-10 business days to get the replacement from T-Mobile as they wanted to charge me $25 for expedited delivery that the online chat people couldn't process as that must be charged to a credit card and not to my account WTF!!! I would have to call customer service and waste another hour of time to make that happen....screw that, I order one off of Amazon and paid for one day delivery...total cost $14 of delivery and shipping.....and I still don't have the T-Mobile free replacement Sim yet. I figure I have wasted 12hrs at least dealing with T-Mobile on problems on their side. I get alot of "we are sorry"......why asking what other carriers will my TMO G3 will 100% function on as I know it won't with verizon because of the radio bands
[T-Mobile LG G3] gigamchz:
Personaly, I love T-mo. I switched from Verizon and am saving a boat load. I think it's absolutely wonderful how they've effectively turned every WiFi hotspot into a cell tower. In Charlotte nc, I've run into some areas where i rome but it's usually in a big building and there's always some WiFi. Their CEO has a great mindset imo and their customer service is always responsive as nice to me.
[T-Mobile LG G3] BACARDILIMON:
Hand in the phones and go to another carrier. If any fees they will pay for them.

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---------- Post added at 09:07 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:02 AM ----------

What state you live in

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[T-Mobile LG G3] dbh369:
Just my two cents, I have a dead spot on Verizon near home but tmo is fine. Also I love their international approach free 2g and texting, and I'm in Europe every month. Would have cost hundreds more on vzw. So far here in north east haven't noticed coverage ant worse than the other guys but haven't travelled the midwest or south yet.

Oh, and free music streaming.
[T-Mobile LG G3] decaturbob:
Illinois.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Mnorton1228:
This is both correct and incorrect. You'll get a few of the LTE bands from ATT(2 and 4 to be exact). I can confirm that that's true. The most obvious indicator is that the symbols on my phone change from 4g to 4gLTE depending on if I'm covered. I can also run speed tests and see a difference. 4g I get 1-2mbps and LTE I get 7-9mbps. Not perfect but I'm not using my phone for any heavy data usage either. As long as I can browse reddit and stuff from my phone I'm good.

As for "just sticking with a carrier"... Um... NO. Absolutely not. If you're not able to make phone calls or are dependent upon finding free wifi to make a call then I don't think it's worth the money. I don't know what that guys talking about but he's obviously missed the point of this discussion.

Look into Straight Talk, Net10, or Cricket. All work on the ATT network and all will give you just as good of a price as TMO. Cricket offers 10gb of data for 55$ a month. Net10 does something similar I believe. I went with ST just because of the convenience. ST and Net10 are both owned by Tracfone so regardless of who you use it's going to be the same thing. Cricket is actually an ATT owned company. There is some literature floating around the web saying that Tracfone phones will allow you to roam on other carriers services but I'm not sure how true that is or if that even matters anymore.
[T-Mobile LG G3] se1zure31:
I really love T-Mobile. I have had the best customer service with them. When I had my Z2s I had issues with the overheating problem and I went through 3 phones and ended up talking to their tech department. They informed me its a known issue and I could try another one. Seems great to me, just had a phone that overheated (not T-Mobiles fault).

I have told many people that reception is quite spotty. I live in Washington and service is great along the I5 corridor but once you start to stray too far off you will lose service. But in data speeds none of my friends with other carriers have come close. I routinley hit speeds of at least 35 mbps.

I can completely understand where most people do have issues. I just use my phone as a mini computer though. I probably use >200 min a month.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Illrigger:
I hate to say it, but you live in the worst area of the country for cell service (other than the Montana mountains, where there's no coverage at all). All four carriers' networks are really thin, and even Verizon's mighty network has holes where they roam onto partner networks there. Unless you live in Chicago, coverage is pretty spotty as soon as you leave the city limits of any town, no matter what carrier you pick. All I can tell you is talk to people who have usage patterns like yours and get their opinions, because blindly switching may end up getting you the same or worse coverage depending on your location.
[T-Mobile LG G3] decaturbob:
I had verizon for years but got tired of paying thru the nose.. No small decision to go to TMO and based on their coverage map we should have been OK.... But their map is essentially a lie. I spent an hour on phone with tmo thru 3 levels of management who understood if their map is fake and/or the tmo cell phones they sold us can't receive their signals then this situation is going to take a turn for the worse.
[T-Mobile LG G3] mingkee:
Hopefully G3 will get band 12, but it's OK if it's not because I have AWS repeater installed and it works fine.

I refuse to get Note 4 because it does not support Trad Chinese. I'd go for Z3 or even G4 instead.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Illrigger:
I lived in the IA/IL corridor area for a few years and pretty much every carrier had issues. Verizon was the best in the city, but would drop to 2G in many areas outside the city, or go dead completely. AT&T was a little better from what my co-workers were saying but again they were on 2G once you left the highway corridors. This was before the LTE rollout, so things may be better, but considering that LTE is GSM, and GSM is pretty short range from the towers (vs CDMA, anyway), I would not make any big bets. You can try your luck with either; you will probably get more consistent service with both, but I would not count on them being overly fast once you are away from the cities and highways.
[T-Mobile LG G3] asianflavor:
First off, hi from the north of you. I'm by the Kankakee area. I do have a buddy that does work at a T-mo corp store in Bradley that has been saying that the area I live and lower Illinois is getting the tower upgrades in Q1 2015. He's trying to get some more info for me since I too live a dead T-Mo area (I get no signal in my office). I maybe stopping in tomorrow if my wife wants to jump to the Note 4. If he's working, I'll ask him if he found out anything more about the IL tower upgrades. I'll let know you if he has any other news.

Edit: Decatur should have LTE coverage for T-Mo looking at sensorly.com. You should check and see about getting a LTE signal booster from T-Mo. Check out sensorly.com to even find what carrier does have the best coverage for you.
[T-Mobile LG G3] decaturbob:
We have fine signal in decatur with LTE but as I stated the TMO coverage map is a deception. Between Decatur and Springfied, the coverage map indicates NO LESS than 2G coverage and we have at least a 20 mile span that has NO signal and we can't make calls. Where my wife works in Springfield, the TMO coverage map indicates a very strong signal but she has no data and making phone calls is very iffy. TMO has done a very deceptive ploy with their coverage map.
[T-Mobile LG G3] gotzaDroid:
This is kind of funny because I love T-Mobile and hate my G3...

I'm assuming you're not in a major metro area? It seems that T-Mobile flops outside of major areas.
[T-Mobile LG G3] decaturbob:
According to T-Mobile coverage

Map.. our coverage should be equal to any metro area... Except along I72 corridor which shows no worse than 2g but we are unable to make or receive calls.. In at least a 20mile area.... Tmo clearly misrepresented the true coverage.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Semantics:
Every carrier misrepresents their coverage maps. Every carrier.
[T-Mobile LG G3] mzrdisi:
Well, where I live the coverage map is fairly accurate. I just wish T-Mobile would get on the ball and start getting rid of their vast areas of GPRS and Edge. I mean, hell, even functioning 2G would be ok. If I'm on the road I just want reliable data that allows me to send messages via data and stream music. I don't expect GPRS to do that, but Edge should without too many issues. Hell, it used to be fine probably 5-6 years ago when I had T-Mobile last, but now anything below HSPA is virtually useless. (And even that is useless in some areas)
[T-Mobile LG G3] decaturbob:
my move from verizon to T-Mobile was predicated on a coverage map that is a fabrication.
[T-Mobile LG G3] _-..zKiLLA..-_:
Dude you just simply just ask for someone higher up like the supervisor. They always make things right. Ive been accidentally charged **** for no reasons (a few times, a long time ago. One of the times being my fault) and they fixed it everytime with no hassle. Ive done the jump thing once with no problems and ive also been with them for almost 5 years and theyve always made things right whenever something wasnt. I guess you just have bad luck. And they always thank me for being with them for so long and treat me like a valued customer. As far the the not having service in areas that unfortunate i guess im lucky to be in a big city.
[T-Mobile LG G3] decaturbob:
Springfield is the capital city of Illinois and according to TMO coverage map my wife should be rocking on 4g/LTE and she can't even make a phone a call. Size of city is not the issue, the issue is TMO misrepresented their coverage. We would have never left verizon if their map was realistic and not a fabrication.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Toneman07:
Have you called tmobile to bring this to their attention? They may have towers in that area that are down and they have no idea. All of a sudden I had no signal at my house I called in to see what was up they created a tech ticket and within a few days I had service again
[T-Mobile LG G3] ThePagel:
Call them and say you need to cancel service because you are not getting service where you live. If they are unwilling to help or fight you, you should have zero problems calling them up a couple days later and tell them your moving to a area on the coverage map that doesn't get coverage. This way you wont get a etf. Some might say thats illegal and not right but if your truly not getting coverage where you should and tmobile is doing nothing about it I say all is fair.
[T-Mobile LG G3] decaturbob:
I'm waiting workd the trouble ticket results on Tuesday on coverage issue before I proceed to next step. I do have a manager calling me back Wednesday. Depending what the results are of the trouble ticket is
[T-Mobile LG G3] Semantics:
As was my move from AT&T to Sprint, which didn't work out, hence my move to T-Mobile. What is your point? They all lie about their coverage maps.
[T-Mobile LG G3] decaturbob:
Under several statutes.... False or misleading advertisement opens the door.... In Illinois.... The attorney general office frowns on this...