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[Nexus 6  General] mustyrash:
Short version:

Nexus 6 is a premium, cutting edge device compared to the nexus 4 and 5 which were average for their time

The processor could have been a 64bit tegra but I personally don't think 64bit makes a difference on a phone

It's £100 more than what we want to pay

I'd rather pay £100 more and get good build quality, battery, screen and camera.

It's not expensive compared to the note 4 which is similarly spec'd

Only the note 4 and lg g3 are good OEM devices with 2k screens

Its a big phone, if you don't want a big phone but want a nexus experience, get a moto x 2014 or if you want to cheap out get a moto g 2014

Long version:

the nexus 6 for me is a cutting edge device while the nexus 4 and 5 were average for their time.

The way I see it is that the nexus 6 is next years nexus, now. Leaving aside the processor which should really have been a 64bit tegra, a bulk of the spec is pretty much future proofed for the next 2 years.

Looking at the nexus 4 at release, it was average for the time, it was a beefed up galaxy s3, it had a 720p display when 1080p was beginning to be adopted. The nexus 5 was similar, 1080p when 2k wasn't far off.

The nexus 6 isn't an over priced device compared to the similarly spec'd note 4 but the fact of the matter is that it's £100 more than we want to pay. But if they've not skimped out on anything, especially like the battery, build quality or the camera then that £100 is well worth it. Spread the £100 over 2 years and its about £1 a week for less comprises.

The nexus 6 is a big phone, if you don't want a big phone but want a nexus experience, get a moto x 2014, if you want a cheap phone get a moto g 2014

I like to think a phone should last 2 years but my nexus 4 is still holding its own right now, might not upgrade and get a nexus 7 for a bigger screen device or just carry my nexus 10 around the house more

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 6  General] Bilhouse:
Why are you being so angry and insulting everyone who wants or is interested in the Nexus 6?

Calm your tits.

There are plenty of other phones available. Or you can keep the Nexus 5. Or even better why don't you start a Kickstarter campaign and design & manufacture your own phone.
[Nexus 6  General] 3473:
Because he can't get one so he doesn't want anyone else to get one either. Childish mentality really :laugh:
[Nexus 6  General] bigf00t:
Based on the Nexus 9 prices in expecting the cheapest Nexus 6 to be £520.

(649usd converted to gbp + 20%vat + another 7% markup)

This seems to be the formula for the nexus 9.
[Nexus 6  General] EddyOS:
The one issue I have with the above is about the chip. Whereas I'm sure it's awesome the last Tegra phone I had (the One X) was pretty pony...I'm sure this isn't the case with the new one but the 805 will do for now! :D
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
Think you may be right
[Nexus 6  General] mustyrash:
Yeah I agree with you, the 805 is perfectly fine, my point was that not being 64 bit stops me from saying its the best spec'd device about on paper and is fully future proof but 64 bit is pointless on a phone for the next 2 or 3 years which is the expected lifespan of the phone anyway.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 6  General] MattBooth:
The Nexus 6 SHOULD have been 64bit, for sure. They are releasing Lollipop to the 64bit fanfare, with only one device supporting it.

64bit armv8 is a good progression and it's more than just 4GB+ RAM addressing. It gives performance increases too.

Also I'm happy to admit this device just priced me out and I'm pretty bitter about that. I expected cheaper and i can't really see anything that makes our worth the increase. The battery is bigger bit that doesn't even begin to add up. The storage is larger, but NAND is cheap. The screen is larger, that might add some more but again not a right lot. The camera lense is the same as the OPO, is it not?

The premium seems to be added by you guys. You're all calling it a premium device because of the price

EDIT: i mean a bigger phone was bound to cost more money bit i don't see the premium.

And yes people are accustomed to a cheap Nexus device theses days and that's a PERFECTLY reasonable expectation.
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
It was 1st of December for both versions when i ordered mine on Tuesday
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
If Google & Amazon are stating 15th for dispatch, I can't see the 1st Dec being right for CPW.

as it stands right now, my Amazon order is due on the 16th.

My birthday is on the 17th! LOL :)
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
I think it could be due to stock levels. I read that Google/Motorola are sending the stock in batches. Clove got through their first batch and now taking pre orders for their second batch which they have said will be due in at the end of December.

The first batch with CPW could have been 1st December despatch and the next being 15th December. Since CPW haven't even sent out any dates to people who have pre ordered we can only go on what the site says but I still have hope that it's to do with batches as a lot of people on here said they were given 1st December on the phone.
[Nexus 6  General] letom:
My Amazon order had changed to 16th also
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
I hope so mate but I doubt I'd be desperate enough to order one from eBay lol
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Very true. Not paying over the odds for something I could get eventually!
[Nexus 6  General] Phantom Shadow:
Vodafone website is still saying Dec 5th so I'm hoping that is accurate, don't want to be waiting till 15th to get it.

As said it is probably just they have sold out of what was going to be available for 1st, so orders placed now will have to wait for the next shipment to come in.
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
With cpw we should know by the end of next week as the 1st is a week Monday
[Nexus 6  General] Barso1:
There's no way CPW didn't know that the 64GB would be late when putting pre-orders up.

I'm going to assume I'll get mine on the 16th.
[Nexus 6  General] Maker of Clouds:
You might be right. When I called CPW yesterday morning to double check that everything is ok with my order (delivery address, bank etc) I've been told that they'll start shipping orders from 1st Dec. And if they really start ship orders after 15th, then I'm canceling my order and will be happy waiting for Project Ara or any other sci-fi :silly: Not interested in 4 month old FKA latest mobile phone...
[Nexus 6  General] mavronn:
I guess that reflects all the pre-orders they've taken since the 18th.
[Nexus 6  General] j0nnymoe:
I should hope that because I ordered mine on Tuesday, it said expected 1st dec, I should get it sometime that week...seeming as I have someone waiting to buy my S3 to give to someone as a present...else I am gonna have to bring out my partners pink S2 and roll with that for abit... :|
[Nexus 6  General] Drefsab:
I ordered the 64gb from cpw as no place else had it. I had the order confirmation mail but still not had anything else to accept / process my order. Might have to call them tomorrow to check on the status of the order.
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Has the money been earmarked on your account (if you used a debit card)? If so then it will have been processed.
[Nexus 6  General] Drefsab:
Tbh ive not checked i will tomorrow. If nothing else can ask them to confirm the expected delivery date etc.
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Yeah I'm sure you'll get your answer when you call. Update us on here after you have!

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Just been reading the spec of the nexus 6 on CPW website and it says that there will be charger, earphones and USB cable in the box. I'm sure the reviews I've seen have said no earphones.
[Nexus 6  General] RedBlueGreen:
Its probably just generic information they use... Just a quick copy/ paste.
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Yeah probably. They haven't had any earphones in the previous nexus models. I'm quite intrigued about the turbo charger.
[Nexus 6  General] mustyrash:
Maybe they'll come with a set of V Moda m100's. These are a £250 pair of headphones BTW, would explain the nexus 6's price

With that in mind, paying £300 for a phone and not getting "extras" is understandable but paying £550 and "only" getting a turbo charger is nuts. My Nokia n95 8gb edition came with headphones, a media remote, a TV out cable, a USB cable, a high efficiency charger and probably some more stuff I can't remember. At least (I think) Samsung give s-buds which are basically knock off rebranded iPhone ear plugs.

I remember in France the nexus 4 came with lg ear plugs with a nexus 'X' on them too.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
I gave in and Upgraded through CPW, mainly because O2's page finally went up and it weirded me out, looked rushed and was in the wrong place on List of phones, Surely if you are putting on the list now it would be the first phone as it is the latest addition? even if you cannot order it yet. Fire phones are still there, probably why you can't even pre order the Nexus 6 yet, O2 probably have 50,000 Frire phones to try sell lol
[Nexus 6  General] Drefsab:
Just spoke to CPW my order is being processed funds have been taken. They said the 2nd confirmation email should come when the stock has been allocated to my order. So basically if you ordered and got the first email confirming and then got a second email they have allocated one of the set number they know they will be getting to your order.

They said the 32GB model is expected to ship on the 1st of December still, the 64GB model is 15th of December.

If you have not had the 2nd email yet this basically means they are having to wait for more stock to arrive to allocate them to your order, they are expecting more stock allocation soon (ie before the release date) but they wont allocate them until exact numbers and shipment are confirmed.

As to the headphones I asked them about this they stated if its on their website that they are included then they will be supplied. I advised that other people are not listing them and people in the US are not getting headphones with their units. They said they UK SKU may be different or that CPW are adding headphones with the order, otherwise it would be false advertising. So I guess we will have to wait and see what comes and when.
[Nexus 6  General] Lerinsol:
By law all smartphones sold in France have to come with a handsfree kit of some sort which is why the Nexus 4 came packaged with headphones, albeit the run-of-the-mill kind.
[Nexus 6  General] Remoteconcern:
I have ordered a 64Gb Blue from CPW. I have had two emails, one saying order received and second saying that my order had been processed but was on back order. Does that mean they've allocated me stock?

When I ordered it said 1st December and now it's saying 15th. Hopefully it's the former but I will expect the latter!
[Nexus 6  General] Drefsab:
If what they told me is correct then you have certainly been allocated on of the first lot of the 64gb model they are getting. As for the release date i expect its going to be the 15th.
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
Honestly I don't think they know , you can ring them now and get them to "force" the second email through.. So not sure the emails mean anything tbh
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Cpw are gonna be sick and tired of me phoning them :D

But just got off the phone with them again

Got her to check delivery for me and because i ordered on the 18th delivery to them is commencing week beginning 1st of December which will be out for delivery the day after they have stock (that's both 32gb and 64gb)

Those that ordered the 64gb later will get it week commencing the 15th
[Nexus 6  General] Remoteconcern:
Ah that makes sense. I ordered mine on Thursday I think - 48 hours is exactly how long my resolve to not purchase one last!
[Nexus 6  General] Super Chimp:
Thanks. I ordered mine on the 18th so hopefully I'll get my 64GB model on the 1st, I've had both emails.
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
No they said delivery to them is week commencing the 1st which could be anytime in that week then out for delivery the day after they have stock
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
Guys we can speculate on this all we want lol, we just don't know when CPW is gonna send them out.

You can literally ring them and have it force the second email though.. Doubt it'll mean much though
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Well at least we have some idea now of what is happening. I had a feeling the changed date was to do with stock as mentored in my previous posts. Guess it's still a waiting game though.

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As for the headphones we are in the same position as France with regards to handsfree in cars so that'll be why UK stock are listing them being in the box.
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Yeah half the time I don't think they have a clue themselves she had to put me on hold so she could go ask someone else
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
I think CPW should have at least confirmed the expected delivery on the second email which said that the order has been processed etc etc. Would give us all some relief and comfort knowing the exact period I.e. week commencing 1st December, that the phone will come out. Just over a week to go so not long now.
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Yeah nexus launch is screwed up every year mate

The woman at cpw told me that it's google that gives the dates so it's out of their control
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
That would make sense. It really has been a shambles from the start. No launch event, no press releases about pre ordering, now there's trouble in America about buggy software in phones sent to at&t which they've had to do a recall for so that Motorola can send them new phones!
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Yeah that's a bummer about the software issue but apparently it's only at&t that's affected

Having to wait for a phone that doesn't work then sending it back for replacing and having to wait again isn't acceptable yet we still buy every year knowing launch is gonna be screwed (doesn't say much for us)

Just hope when ours turn up that there is no issues
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Yeah I know. Normally with anything else you'd get really irate and complain to whoever you can and cancel etc but like you said we still buy waiting for the end result. Makes me feel like we're slaves to new tech lol
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Ha ha you've hit the nail on the head mate it's about time they offered us a huge discount as an incentive for all the inconvenience of a screwed up launch every year
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
O2 Have stated on the product page they are not giving headphones.

The Reasons why Nexus Launches go 'wrong' are its always Unfinished software on a phone, that a Manufacturer is making but has other phones to sell. So at the end of the day someone has to make a decision on when to launch, as it will never be ready and there will never be enough.

Sony Can announce a Z3, and just name when they are gonnna launch it as so many units will be manufactured by then, or just state another date if parts get delayed. A nexus, Google could just mess up the software a week before they thought they would launch it and not have a clue when it will be fixed lol

there will probably some android 5.1 Jan/Feb, THIS is when the phone should've been launched.
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Yeah I agree. If only Google took on the manufacturing like apple has, they would have ultimate control and send updates straight to the phones without the delays but we have to question whether Google could be in the same league as apple if they were to manufacture the phone themselves. You're right that any errors can take as long as they take to fix. Personally that's where I think Google have gone wrong as they're in the hands of the manufacturer that they have chosen when releasing the phone.

The reviews have mentioned a lacklustre performance of speakers and going that the next software update will fix this but some have mentioned that all nexus phones since the first one have had rubbish speakers. Personally it doesn't bother me as I'll either use headphones or Bluetooth speakers or even cast to my TV. I wonder what else could be in the world for lollipop 5.1? The nexus 5 on lollipop has been having issues still even after they apparently fixed an issue with WiFi (which caused a delay of the official launch of lollipop).
[Nexus 6  General] JCM800:
Being as I'm contemplating getting a Nexus 6 - I ordered a clear Spigen case for one , which arrived today so I could gauge it's footprint...

I have a Note 3.. which is in a gel type case, snug fit. And, I can actually put it inside the Nexus 6 case snugly. If I take the case off the Note it moves around..

This thing is big! Makes my Note 3 seem average.

Still in two minds about getting one personally. Having to root to activate the notification light isn't a good idea Google! Screw your ambient display please.

And the speakers, unless they're tweaked, I'm waiting for the M9 next I think, unless an in store demo changes my opinion of the 6..
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
You probably will see demo versions in store early December but they could delay them if the dates slip. I can't wait to get my hands on mine. I bought a spigen case too and I'm not that worried about the size.
[Nexus 6  General] JCM800:
Size isn't too bad, it's huge but bearable. It's the speakers I'm concerned about.. GSM Arena said they're a missed opportunity.. others have said they won't likely be fixed by a software update either?..
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Yeah they've said it's not something software updates can fix, it's the actually speakers themselves and I agree they were a missed opportunity. I'd they had similar speakers to the boom sound speakers in the m8 it would make a great phone perfect
[Nexus 6  General] JCM800:
Yeah, I was annoyed with my Note 4 so returned that due to the inadequate sound quality.

Hence I'm weary of the Nexus 6 in that respect. Plus, I heard the M9 might make a surprise appearance in December, do I'm holding fire for now, tho £499 is a great price imo for the Nexus 6..
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Yeah the annoying thing for me is that the note 4 and nexus 6 don't have the 64 bit Soc. I wish they did have the better chip rather than the 32. It's not like it's not available!
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
What chip did you expect them to use?

The 805 is the best smartphone chip available for them.
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Oh yeah I know that, I understand why and understand the tech. It's just a wish. I'm not being critical

---------- Post added at 04:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:49 PM ----------

Just reading an article on the know your mobile website and it confirmed that CPW will have the nexus 6 in store on 1st December
[Nexus 6  General] Sennfire:
I was on the phone to CPW again today (for the third time this week). They really just can't tell me anything I want to know. I ordered on Tuesday, got the first email and then another telling me that there was a problem with my payment. I authorised the payment with my bank then called up CPW straight away and got the payment processed right there and then. All was fine and well, but I've had no correspondence since. Hearing it over the phone is one thing but I would like to have written confirmation of received payment and an allocation of an order with my name on it. Phoning up the CPW and asking about solid confirmation, which batch you're a part of, or estimated stock dates in the stores is just a useless endeavour. The reps just have no clue about anything. I know I'm in the same boat as literally everyone else here, but it's just so infuriating to be none the wiser even after handing over my money. It's not the wait, it's the information vacuum that's infuriating me.

On a somewhat related note: When I ordered the phone, I opted to pay now and collect it from the store when it launched since I live right next to one and I figured that they would get stock in before deliveries start going out to customers, though really I have no basis for that belief. I'm not sure if I should be regretting that decision or not. Did anyone else do this?
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
I got told (by them) that their email system is terrible, they checked at the warehouse for my order and said it was all fine and in place, thinks that's the best we will get.

The "order process" email is just generic, it won't have a name on it anyway.
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
My only recent dealings with CPW was for a insurance claim, they didn't seem that on the ball when it came to deliveries but I chose Collect in Store as not all Couriers can get to my front door.
[Nexus 6  General] Barso1:
I am now certain that the 15th Dec release date for the 64GB will be for the launch and not because they've sold out of the initial batch.

If so then I'll just cancel my CPW order and go with Google Play when it releases there. I have zero confidence in CPW when it comes to warranty issues.
[Nexus 6  General] Perchy35:
Blue 32gb flipping in the Google play store again!! I will add up total soon
[Nexus 6  General] Super Chimp:
Is it that easy to cancel an order with CPW, can't say I'm brim with confidence about them in such respects?
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
What makes you certain about the 15th?
[Nexus 6  General] all43:
Anyone bought with mobiles.co.uk in the past? They have a better contract deal than CPW,

http://m.mobiles.co.uk/index.php?page=product_tariff&type=&value=NEX664BLU&filter=make&filterValue=Motorola&tariffType=paym&pageNum=0&orderBy=&filter=make&filterValue=Motorola

02 £38 5000MB unl text/calls ( mobiles.co.uk )

vs

Vodaphone £39.50 4000MB unl text/calls (CPW )
[Nexus 6  General] pnnorth:
I've never used them before but they are owned by CPW. If I were you I'd just ask CPW to match the mobiles.co.uk deal.
[Nexus 6  General] l.m.prowse:
Just had a quick chat with CPW, they checked my account and confirmed that they are just awaiting stock, because I ordered the 64gb blue while it said the 1st that I'll receive it then :) still not believing 100% but its a nice thought ahaha

Edit: I ordered about an hour after preorders became available on the 18th
[Nexus 6  General] Drefsab:
I didnt get to order on the 18th as I was holding out for the google play release. Then they never released the 64gb model, i waiyed a couple of day then gave in and ordered from cpw. So I doubt I will get one of the first batch but the way I see it at least im on the list and its all paid for now so will get it this year i hope.
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
Yeah I think our initial reliance on the play store was asking too much from Google after what happened last year.
[Nexus 6  General] disk0360:
I ordered from GPS and CPW, more interested in my order from CPWest as it's for a white 64 gb.

If for some odd reason gps get the white 64 gb I will switch and buy from them.

My experience with warranty on the nexus 5 from GPS was exemplary, no other provider can hold a candle to them in this regard.
[Nexus 6  General] uktechguru:
All depends on when GPS will open up the pre order on the rest of the variants. Getting closer to 1st December.
[Nexus 6  General] @home:
Can the mods please stop that b&q ad from popping all the time when viewing this site on a tablet?

I did mention this the other day bit nothing has been about it.

Are you listening mods, ple ade stop it, itsvbeyond joke. It makes veiwing this site nigh on impossible on a tablet.
[Nexus 6  General] NexusHexus:
I got around the joke of an advert by switching to desktop mode in chrome
[Nexus 6  General] j0nnymoe:
Or use the xda app or tapatalk
[Nexus 6  General] Drefsab:
Still using good old adblock me works well.
[Nexus 6  General] chubby65:
Same here you can't beat it
[Nexus 6  General] @home:
That's not the point
[Nexus 6  General] j0nnymoe:
Well if your having issues, message an Admin with screenshots requesting they do something rather than just posting a message in a thread as it's likely they won't see it.
[Nexus 6  General] ricey1986:
I've used them multiple times before, another one I use is buymobilephones.Net