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[Xperia Z2 General] Ben Ling:
Same firmware with build number 23.0.1.A.0.167 also gets certified on the Z3 Tablet Compact

I expect there will be no difference to the Z3 Tablet Compact except some of the features that the Z2/Tablet cannot support.

https://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=26532

https://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=26533
[Xperia Z2 General] Mazellat:
Is there any news about when rolling out? And what is including with this fw? All Z3 features or nothing change, same as 4.4.2?
[Xperia Z2 General] zodiac100:
Since it has the same build number as z3 series, I expect it to be near identical to what's on z3. I think the only difference will be the high iso low light business. Everything else will be exactly the same. If you want to see what the update should be like, check out the z3v for verizon US.

Most of if not all of the z3's software features were always going to make it to the z2 officially. It was just a question of when. After 4.4.4 or after the android L update.

Both phones are near identical in every respect and as such the z3 doesn't have much to tempt z2 users into upgrading so there wasn't any point holding off on the features for the z2.

Both phones are 2014 flagships and they'll both get Sony's 2014 software suit.

Edit ***** just looked at the specifications on Sony mobile us for the z3v and it does indeed have the high 12800 iso setting. Well since its using the same sensor and lens combo as the z2, we could also see this hitting the z2.
[Xperia Z2 General] Tri3Dent:
you think we'll get the two day battery life? would be sweet if we do. hopefully we get that or improved better life. not saying it's bad now but improved is always good.
[Xperia Z2 General] funky0308:
We should get most of the Z3 fw, yeah...

Even, we are all talking about rumours, the thing is that all what we heard is happening.

We had informations that 4.4.4 for Z2 will be released after whole Z series received update because we are going to get Z3 stuff and Sony want to release Z3 first.

Now we got confirmation in built number...

We'll see but yeah, we should get many new, interesting things...

Of course, [MENTION=599722]niaboc79[/MENTION] had to kill all the fun and he already release 99% of new Z3 features :P

Damm, Xperia S and Honami UI are here again :)

Just kidding of course :)
[Xperia Z2 General] StonyD:
Sorry for bad english, but i remember in old Xperia x10i, Arc, S, Z, Z1 and Z1 compact times that we got one person who can leak firmwares 2-4 weeks before release from Sony.

"Look at DMLRD"
[Xperia Z2 General] Pandemic:
Bro [MENTION=4816245]funky0308[/MENTION]

Hmm oke but what if the Z3 is already here in the Netherlands and what about my update to 4.4.4 then ?

Lol :p

Look at DMLRD ?

He release only new firmwares for unlocked bootloader users.. Sadly enough :(
[Xperia Z2 General] paulson881:
firmwares in FTF DO NOT require UL to flash via flashtool.:)Pls check your facts b4 posting.:)
[Xperia Z2 General] Ben Ling:
He mean the leak rom,not the ftf.
[Xperia Z2 General] Pandemic:
I talked about the leak and not any single ftf file, read better before posting, i should say !

+1

Exactly :)
[Xperia Z2 General] B1nny:
Roms in a .zip file don't require an unlocked bootloader either. They only do if the kernel (boot.img) has been modified and thus is not signed by Sony.

This is the reason why some custom roms based on Sony roms can run on devices without an unlocked bootloader, they don't have a modified kernel.
[Xperia Z2 General] StonyD:
And now lets hope for Doom (:
[Xperia Z2 General] funky0308:
Don't get it....

Your 4.4.4 update?

Global launching is what's counts, not regional.

And yes, that's right, you have to have UB to test preview fw, that's not some hoodoo magic by Doom, Sony used to "release" preview for UB few weeks before actual official release.

Obviously, that practice is history.

And one more yes...kernel/boot.img is problem not fw or ROM for LB.
[Xperia Z2 General] Pandemic:
I mean that Z3 is already out so where is our 4.4.4 update for Xperia Z2 ?

I am just curious when it comes like we all you know ^^
[Xperia Z2 General] lanc3lot:
Patience,they said till the end of the month

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[Xperia Z2 General] kamalmawa:
Vodafone

Vodafone Australia scheduled for testing.. Z3 also receiving another 4.4.4 update ?
[Xperia Z2 General] funky0308:
It's just released and not in all markets.

We will get update and it'll be great update, isn't that enough to you?

Come on buddy, at least you should know that. ;)

Of course we all want wifi fix and optimised code....it'll be out soon.

We just got eXistenZ with awesome new features. [MENTION=599722]niaboc79[/MENTION] did awesome job and we have new toy to play with while we are waiting 4.4.4.....

You'll see...everyone wants 4.4.4. but when it finally hits our devices we'll moaning because we can't root it or we'll molest niaboc79 to release eXistenZ based on latest fw.

Why can't we enjoy in things we already have?

We, humans are very interesting animals ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] zodiac100:
Not everyone installs custom roms. Hence the impatience for the update. Z2's been waiting a while for this which is I suppose the detrimental effects of the 6 months flashship policy.

Of all the reviews I've seen of the z3 so far, the pocketnow and tabtech reviews were spot on.

Pocketnow basically concluded that all that can be said meaningfully about the z3 has already been said about the z2 while tabtech simply concluded their review by saying Sony need to stop releasing a new flashship every 6 months.
[Xperia Z2 General] funky0308:
I know that, that's why I talked to [MENTION=2902434]Pandemic[/MENTION]

He is using custom roms
[Xperia Z2 General] mariosraptor:
The only thing I really want except the optimization of the camera is apps to sd.
[Xperia Z2 General] Pandemic:
Bro [MENTION=4816245]funky0308[/MENTION]

Yes i know it is not released on all markets but for sure 4.4.4 will be a great update for us so yes that is enough for us XZ2 users and sure i should know that and i do, sure we want those fixed but it will come.

We have indeed Excistinz by [MENTION=599722]niaboc79[/MENTION] and that is a great rom and yes he will do it i think release a rom of the latest fw, so we must all wait on that ^^
[Xperia Z2 General] sofia-captivate:
What do you mean wifi fix? Now tgat

You mentioned it? Cause i think i am having issues with wifi not loading sometimes but does with data? Usually i turn the phone off to fix iit. Also sometimes its drops to 1 bar wifi.
[Xperia Z2 General] funky0308:
4.4.2 has many problems, that's why we all are waiting 4.4.4.

It will fix few thousands bugs, some of you can see and feel and for some of them you don't even realize it shouldn't be there.

After releasing 4.4.4 your battery will be better, wifi more stabile and screen more responsive...
[Xperia Z2 General] kamalmawa:
Putting Airplane Mode on and off do the trick usually for me.
[Xperia Z2 General] RalphLauren:
Sadly, I have to do the same now and than on my XZ with stock 4.4.4
[Xperia Z2 General] fccr1990:
Personally I will wait until [MENTION=599722]niaboc79[/MENTION] updates Existenz to 4.4.4

I think it's a better rom than stock. as it already solved many bugs and even included Z3 features to Z2.
[Xperia Z2 General] edge3uk:
I so hope it gets fixed with z2. My Bluetooth is on all the time because of the smartband. It's been alright the past few weeks to be fair but it's not robust at all.
[Xperia Z2 General] BR4DOKYBrazil:
I'm on the countdown! I will travel on November 1. Hopefully this update is released before!
[Xperia Z2 General] dkionline:
[MENTION=4931701]Ben Ling[/MENTION], Z3 compact tablet had been released with this Fw.
[Xperia Z2 General] Cena99:
you guys still want 4.4.4 after Google announced 5.0 lollipop Android with Nexus 6?

Don't you ever get it that it's just an endless cycle that never ends and the only thing that end is ur time get wasted..
[Xperia Z2 General] funky0308:
Of course we want that...

You said right...Google announced L...that won't be released for Z2 for, at least, 5-6 months...

And we need polished KK with all fixes while we are waiting...

So...if we ask you...

Buying new BMW is waist of time because they will release new one after few months/year(s)?!?

That's the life... You buy something and that same second it's not new anymore and something better, maybe even cheaper, will be released after that...
[Xperia Z2 General] knoxploration:
Lollipop won't be out until November at the earliest, and likely late November. Add time for OEMs to do their thing, and we won't get it until some time next year. The most recent reliable rumor has it arriving on the Z2 in April 2014, if I remember correctly, with the Z3 getting it in February or March.

Should we not want bug fixes now just because we'll be getting another update in six months from now? That's a bit of a silly viewpoint, but you're welcome to it, I guess.
[Xperia Z2 General] Cena99:
bugs are always there even with the latest version, there is no phone out there bugs free and never got an update to be bugs free.. yes it might fix some of the current bugs but also there is a 50/50 chance will be a new bugs with the new update .. And so on and on with new version of L or Lollipop.. my point here is the time waste for this endless cycle is totally not worth it.. Am following phones and gadgets and updates since 2003 and till recently i feel fed up and become less interested.. I don't wanna be here too negative, of course I do a lot of things with my phone now compare to 10 years ago.. And i appreciate it but when *****ing and whining about every signal update that's just childish and silly.. being convinced and happy with what you have now and focus on what important.. the phone is just a tool to do an important things and that what matters unless you using it mostly for fun and play and whining like children when they see a new game and they just want to get it no matter what...
[Xperia Z2 General] paulson881:
You should have your viewpoint and I won't comment on it.

However, if your comments is the case, then we should all stay with good'old Nokias. Or AnyCalls for that matter.

The gist here is you can deny technological advancement.:good:
[Xperia Z2 General] knoxploration:
One might as well ask why participate in a forum about phones, tablets and Shadrach's if you're not interested in improving or changing what you have.

Also, what you say is demonstrably untrue. Yes, major releases typically introduce lots of new bugs, but minor releases almost always fix more problems than they introduce.
[Xperia Z2 General] Ben Ling:
I already knew this since long time ago & even download the firmware & shared the new apps over the XDA
[Xperia Z2 General] kamalmawa:
Vodafone Australia scheduled for testing late October to early November which means Sony may release it around that time
[Xperia Z2 General] lee480:
Looks like the newest Z3 is coming to my Z2 (and your's too):

Ultra Stamina, PS4 Controller, new UI etc...

http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/10/1...0-1-a-0-32-for-xperia-z2-leaks-pics-included/
[Xperia Z2 General] kamalmawa:
Leaked ROM available here to download. Only for unlocked bootloaders

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2907571
[Xperia Z2 General] Rick Poldo:
I hope that's true.

But how this works PS4? In this update will come an application control the ps4? (if someone has the patience to explain to me :p)

Sorry, I am a layman in this matter.

What excites me most is the ultra stamina.
[Xperia Z2 General] roanmy:
I just want the ALAC-support. Really hope they carry it over!
[Xperia Z2 General] hasona:
The ps4 remote play app will be released separetaly(only z3 series is confirmed to work officially)

Regarding controller support it will basically have support for the ps4 controller just like it has support for the ps3 controller right now
[Xperia Z2 General] Cena99:
just saying.. look at this link

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/10...id-5-0-lollipop-to-the-entire-xperia-z-series
[Xperia Z2 General] funky0308:
Hmm...I just received an interesting offer.

Z3 for 100€... And can keep my device...

[total cost is over 100€, it'll be 400€ but I think I'll use jump on this one... I would pay all that money for z2 anyway...so why not take another device...]

Hehe...I'll have Z1, Z2 and Z3 :)

I didn't want to say anything smart, just bragging :P
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
damn your making me jellous

bah listen to this guy, buying all sorts of new phones

id give you a Z2 for a Z3 :P ;) xD
[Xperia Z2 General] funky0308:
When Z2 was released I said I won't buying it, then I received offer that I couldn't reject.

Now, I said, I don't need Z3, really, I don't need it and I think Z2 looks better but it would be insane to reject something like that even if I sell it right away.

Bad things are that this is device from t-mobile contract and it has locked bootloader (can't be unlocked) and it's sim locked.

I'm fine with that, sim lock is 50$ problem (it's very easy to buy unlocking code) and even if I could I wouldn't unlock bootloader.

I'm using eXistenZ and really don't have a need to flash custom kernels...
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
I hate sony right now

They happen to fix all the problems i hated

Example

Z>Z1

Camera button

Firmware

Button quality

Z1>Z2

Flaps

Screen

Shape

Z2>Z3

Shape

Flaps

Buttons

Anoying scratchable glass

Camera tint
[Xperia Z2 General] nreuge:
In several decades, you can open a museum!! ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] funky0308:
Hehe...yeah...

If I go for that and buy Z3 I'll see if I like it.

What I saw for now, Z2 is looking ten times better then Z3.

Of course, that's my opinion, someone won't agree with that but I really think they shouldn't change LED and speakers.

That was great on Z2 (I'm talking only for visual style)...

Only thing I like is rounded corners and same colour on sides...

We'll see...I can't use JUMP before 01.12.2014, so , maybe I change my mind till then...

But if I buy it and if I see it's actually good looking, I'll keep that one and Z2...

I'll definitely sell Z1 then...

I have to check it in t-mobile store and see does it worth...

But, what niaboc said, I should definitely buy that if I get it on that price and if I don't like it - I can always sell it :)
[Xperia Z2 General] sfex3best:
Hey funky remember me?

Yeh probably not as I don't post much but I've also had the z1,z2 and z3.

I too said I would never upgrade to the z3 and here I am using the z3 at this moment.

I got an offer to sell my very used Z2 for £315 and I couldn't resist. I then bought the z3 copper brand new for £387. So basically I paid £72 for an upgrade from the z2 to the z3.

Right now I have to tell you that there's hardly a difference apart from 4.4.4. The z2 really never had any major problems in my opinion. It was perfect.

Buttt.....

Don't ask me why but I think its worth an upgrade if you can get it at that price. It's kinda tough to describe howww. I guess it's worth an upgrade for some maybe for others maybe not.

I must say though the phone looks amazing. Really is beautiful and its slightly smaller than the z2 making it a little more comfortable to hold. Just go see them in person I guess. But at the price your getting I'd jump on opportunity.

Ps4 remote play and this guys review in the end was enough to push me towards the z3.

Sony Xperia Z3 In-depth Review - THE BEST right n…: http://youtu.be/rlKhZ5Inn8w

Its upto you funky and others its a decision I really struggled with too.
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
Takes upto a couple monts btw

Usualy couple weeks for smaller updates, which this is not small

:D
[Xperia Z2 General] effective:
It will start rolling in the end of October / early november.
[Xperia Z2 General] Rick Poldo:
Good news, but where did you see that?
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
To me this is typical

Its always been the same lenth of time for all xperias for an update of this size

About a month from PTCRB certifacation

And i did see the same thing on google news a few days back ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] bacardiandwatermelon:
You guys have to stop posting in here, it keeps getting me excited.. Haha
[Xperia Z2 General] spanjeli:
Update start rolling on 1 st November ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] gamer649:
Source? I've just checked the sony mobile blog and there is no new information on there.
[Xperia Z2 General] paulnoise:
With about a year between the 2 and 3, the z3 is an upgrade to the z1. The z2 users contracts (based on the average contract length of 24 months) will probably expire in time for the z4 launch etc. Either way the z3 battery life is definitely an upgrade on the z2 also camera features and the high definition audio playback, if you use that kind of thing.
[Xperia Z2 General] higgs_:
Source?
[Xperia Z2 General] ghostofcain:
Was the Z2 not launched in May this year? So expiry in may 2016, which if Sony continue to churn em out 6 monthly will be in time for Z6 launch. I'd be dumbfounded if Z4 didn't launch in 2015.
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
actualy there has been the idea and romours rolling around about sony changing to a 1 year plan, and same goes for 24 months suppor instead of 18 for all Z flagships

im sure you already know enough about xperias and lolipop.

what do you think of this, im interested to hear
[Xperia Z2 General] ghostofcain:
Personally I think 6 months is no time to recoup investment in new phone, so it's no wonder Sony are haemorrhaging money. I don't see meaningful upgrade on the odd releases (z1 & z3) either, So it makes sense. iPhone and Samsung fanboys by each release irrespective of contract are there any Sony fanboys doing the same? I doubt it on 6 month release cycles.

As for support its a no brainer, my 18 month old S3 was no longer being upgraded so jumped ship , might have waited for note 4 if I'd still been getting meaningful updates.
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
I agree

1year or two years is worth it

It seems now sony is starting to listen to their customers more

I feel like what sony needs to do is what apple and samsung does is which just add small knick nacks and toys to play with such as a heart rate monitor, an IR lazer and anything useful they can think of

I would love a IR blaster just because my TV remote is dead, its useful more than useless for example
[Xperia Z2 General] ghostofcain:
Were obviously coming at this from opposing viewpoints, the other reason for my abandoning Samsung was the lack of upgrades ignoring the crap like heartrate monitors and fingerprint scanners. But horses for courses and it does seem to be what attracts the hoi polloi.
[Xperia Z2 General] Alaa | Google Android:
One of the right sources

Update will launch early next month
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
hmm.

i think heartrate monitor would be useless but different things such as in IR blaster, its not exactly useful but its there incase you ever need it, a finger print scanner im not sure about, yes security, anoying at times, yes too

it seems xperias attract people for different reasons, for some its battery life, some its toughness and others its its simplicity or to them its so, and for even others its even just a change in brand

at this point im time im thinking that usualy useful is the best way to go, its how android has been progressing as an OS and if thats whats attracting the largest group of customers then thats good to target.

i take android because its useful, i take sony because i find them hard to damage/break, and their simplicity and firmware (aside the terrible optomization and the exessive bloatware at times)
[Xperia Z2 General] Pandemic:
Source or any link ??

You can't post replies like that without any link or source ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] kamalmawa:
I already posted few pages back saying it will probably release on the first week of November or late October. In the past, usually when Vodafone Australia schedule for testing other customised versions get released ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] Pandemic:
Yes but not everyone have Vodafone Australia, look at me i have an unbranded and simlock free Z2 as usual ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] dkionline:
1 week to go, then is november. I think unbranded uk or so first.
[Xperia Z2 General] Asseel:
http://www.hallels.com/articles/109...oid-4-4-kitkat-featured-lot-major-changes.htm

Is it true?
[Xperia Z2 General] MichaelWT:
my wife's z3 doesn't allow moving apps to sd card, so that part is bollocks.
[Xperia Z2 General] funky0308:
Hmm...I really doubt...

If it was out we would know that already...

But, maybe it just started to roll... We'll see tonight is it true or false alarm...

BTW: check that post closely, they are talking about 4.4, we have 4.4 on Z2, it's 4.4.2, what we need is 4.4.4.

Now, this could be just a sick joke or mistyped number but still...I really think it's just bad advertising..
[Xperia Z2 General] v28:
Be interesting to see what we actually get as the UK update site for the z2 says the next version release will be Lollipop. Either way an update soon would be nice.

http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/software/phones/xperia-z2/
[Xperia Z2 General] gamer649:
I think the site only takes into account MAJOR software updates. If you look it says the launch version is 4.4 not 4.4.2.
[Xperia Z2 General] Cena99:
the same thing here also in the Netherlands
[Xperia Z2 General] funky0308:
We are all waiting 4.4.4, of course, we are extremely hungry for something new...no matter we are always having same problems.

ROOT

Android L, Lolipop will be even harder if not impossible to break/root. (of course, I'm talking about devices that cannot be unlocked (bootloader status - NO)

Google engineers worked hard to patch all security holes and, apparently, they patched everything that could allow us to root our devices without flashing custom kernel that, as we all know, need unlocked bootloader.

It's interesting to see each time we are waiting new fw XDA is full of threads about that and full of threads where we are cursing Sony because they aren't fast in releasing it...

When new version is finally out our threads will explode again, this time we will cursing Sony because we can't find a way to root new fw, or we can root it by unlocking bootloader but we can't backup TA partition and we will lose our DRM keys ;)

If you are planning to keep Z2/Z3 (I'm sure there'll be a way to root Z3 without unlocking bootloader and flashing custom kernel) and you can unlock bootloader on your device - you'll probably have rooted Lolipop, as you can backup your TA partition while you are on KK but it'll be interesting to see our brand new Z4 powered by Android 5 full of annoying popups, baners and navigation bar that occupies "half of the screen".

There's in point in this post...It's just funny to read old threads and posts (waiting for JB, waiting for KK...)

If you wanna see and read few words from Chainfire - creator of supersu - visit his G+ account and check what he has to say about our next nightmare...

Chainfire G+ post

...sooo....enjoy your root privileges...it could become just a nice memory in a next few months...
[Xperia Z2 General] cwx:
Yikes.. bad news! I pulled an unlucky card and got a locked factory bootloader. I know not all Z2's are the same. It's really too bad as some of these custom roms really breathe new life into these devices. Makes me envious of my wife's OPO which we can essentially flash whatever we want to, easily. Will be interesting to see where Sony goes on this.
[Xperia Z2 General] funky0308:
They will have to do something about it.

I agree with Chainfire, it's not easy to leave Google feature to root device officially because of business users but if Sony choose to add a switch for choosing rooted / unrooted fw - they'll have my voice ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] Magnetox:
Hey guys, quick question on the bootloader situation.

I'm in the locked BL boat, as I have a carrier device. However, I currently have recovery installed and am running miui.

I'm curious as to whether or not the 4.4.4 base roms (if unrootable without unlocked bootloader) could be "prerooted"? If so, those with recovery already installed would be able to use these roms, no?

Cheers