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[Nexus 4 General] dmnall:
Well the nexus 4 and 5 were the only cheap nexus phones. Nexus 1 $ 599, nexus S $ 600, galaxy nexus 600. Nexus 4 299, nexus 5 349 and now nexus 6 649.... I personally am going to get the nexus 6 64 gig models through T-Mobile for zero down why not. The camera and fast charging sold me...

Charlie
[Nexus 4 General] monkeypaws:
Think google would have made the same move no matter the oem
[Nexus 4 General] Dark Emotion:
You do know that google owns motorola? It is the same company
[Nexus 4 General] ronakchavan:
Lenovo owns it now... That's why they could team up with moto. Had Google used it's in house hardware firm, other oems would have criticised them.

Sent from Gotham
[Nexus 4 General] TheQuarterMile:
If you do get an invite do pass it this way... I heard it's pretty crazy out there to get one...
[Nexus 4 General] acejavelin:
No, Google still owns and runs Motorola, the deal has not been approved.
[Nexus 4 General] GAntiLight:
Of what I heard, Lenovo owns Motorola, but not all patterns. Some are still owned by Google

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I totally agree, 5,96 is way to big for a phone, and although the price tag can still be considered cheap if you take a look at the specs, it's a lot of money. I was also planning on upstaging my Nexus 4 but now that it will get Lollipop, I don't think I will till something better comes out
[Nexus 4 General] Lawstorant:
Oh, I'll surely switch to N6. I just hope that the price will go down before april
[Nexus 4 General] asce1992:
For me: Nexus 6 is too big for jeans and it has 28nm CPU..both nexus 4 and nexus 6 will have Official android lollipop.

I have an old HTC evo 3D and i will still wait next year for 20nm architecture (with a impressive battery life)..

Maybe Intel will present 14nm later next year ;)
[Nexus 4 General] fahadsul3man:
impressive battery life and nexus phones are something impossible to get together
[Nexus 4 General] asce1992:
For this reason I will wait 20nm or 14nm ;)

Or at most z4compact :P
[Nexus 4 General] monkeypaws:
I don't believe price will come down as its offered at all the us carriers who most offer some kind of payment option instead of taking the big hit at the play store. Tmobile has their jump program, art has theirs as well as sprint and Verizon. If you really want it then I'd say take up those options if you don't want to go the play store route. I have never bought a device from playstore and definitely couldn't afford the $400 for the nexus 5 but I used my jump last year and I have my nexus 5. I think maybe google might lower their playstore pricing but don't see any carriers lowering theirs by april
[Nexus 4 General] Planterz:
Well, I wasn't right.:( So I just bought a used Note 3 off Swappa. I just can't justify spending that much right now. $350 for the Note 3, another $40 for case/battery/TGSP, plus I've got a 64gb microSD card, so 96gb for about half the cost. I think I'll be happy with that as my "big" phone, and keep my Nexus 4 for "smaller" phone and flashing fun. If not, I can always resell the Note.
[Nexus 4 General] DaGr81:
I was Nexus fan since Nexus 0ne. Nexus 6 blew my head when it came out but then its price saddened me. I think Nexus 6 is now not a developer's phone anymore. $649 is huge. Check OnePlusOne out. its specs are almost similar to Nexus6 and it costs $349 with CM which is 99.9% pure android just like the play edition phones. I think i'll choose OnePlusOne over Nexus 6 this time.
[Nexus 4 General] monkeypaws:
Hate people keep comparing nexus 6 to opo. The nexus 6 will be available for purchase almost everywhere and has an up to date os . the opo is still via invite only , has bugs in the system that up to recent have been getting fixed by cm. Yes its cheaper but think about the drawbacks of one versus the other.
[Nexus 4 General] ctrlaltdemolish:
Will do, my order is still pending shipment. :(
[Nexus 4 General] NardVa:
Nexus 6 will drop in price through the Play Store. I'm guessing around June or July when the market will be flooded with 2015 flagship phones.
[Nexus 4 General] RASTAVIPER:
Are you really now comparing the materials that were used for Nexus 6 with materials of 1+1 ?

And come again? Since when CM is considered as Pure Android?
[Nexus 4 General] ronakchavan:
Though cm is not pure android it's still pretty close to stock with added features which doesn't slows the phone like TW does and yeah I agree comparing the materials used in N6 with d 1+1 is foolish but even at that price 1+1 has pretty good quality, though N6 if of another level altogether. :)

Sent from Gotham
[Nexus 4 General] monkeypaws:
+1. Again I keep asking these guys, why are we comparing n6 to opo.
[Nexus 4 General] ArcherLuke:
Too big for me ... 6 inch cannot even fit the pocket, 5 inch is the biggest size I can accept.
[Nexus 4 General] Planterz:
You can put pure Android on on the OnePlus One. And any number of other ROMs, and it doesn't void your warranty. Which makes it very Nexus-like, and its size makes it very Nexus 6-like.
[Nexus 4 General] macallik:
That's what she said
[Nexus 4 General] olyloh6696:
Nexus 4 owner here since August 2013. Had a opportunity to jump to a Nexus 5 in April this year, but I turned it down holding out for the Nexus 6, and naturally I am/was hugely disappointed at the price/size.

So I've immediately gone over for the OnePlus One, and managed to secure invites without much effort really. Its not as difficult as you think to get one.

So I'm currently waiting for my OnePlus One to be shipped, still wondering whether to sell my trusty N4 for a mere £90-100 or to keep it...
[Nexus 4 General] f_5_V_e_R:
hello,

since the nexus 6 is not available yet, I tested my experience in using such big screen by using note 4. it has 5.7" screen and I feel troubled using it. it was just too big for my hands, so i probably skip this edition and hope Google make a smaller one.

in my opinion, 4.7" is the best / most proper screen size, and 5" is the largest my hand can tolerate.. I'm a male, and my palm is considerably large.
[Nexus 4 General] IndianSuzuki:
I am in same boat. I am also considering to buy 1+. How much is it costing you?
[Nexus 4 General] olyloh6696:
I had an invite so it coated me the standard £269 for the 64GB Black Sandstone model which is a steal with top notch specs.

I'd say go for it if I were you! If price and size isn't an issue the Nexus 6 is logically the superior device.

Still have to use my N4 for one more week. Just got in and my battery is on 9% with a mere 2 hours and a bit screen on time and it only had WiFi on most of the day.

So glad to move onto the OPO with the supposedly brilliant battery life.
[Nexus 4 General] matiamb:
i wont buy a 6" phone or phablet... i love the 4.7" of the nexus 4. why not keep it this size!? i could get a nexus 5... 5" screen is the max size ill pick...
[Nexus 4 General] oxxshadow:
I too moved to the one plus one for some time. We can all agree, One Plus made a brilliant phone for a brilliant price. Here is the catch, as this is a startup, there are less employees and resources, therefore quality control SUCKS. My One Plus was defective, had a bad radio. Could never get signal. Had to return it. Many others report the same thing on the forums. With one plus, its all about luck.
[Nexus 4 General] _delice_doluca_:
I think Google has done it right. Of course they could not release a tablet also and claim the market for themselves. They told in their ads also they support the idea of being variety of devices in the market so they let the tablet flag go to HTC this year.

However, on the phone side they hold the flag and set the right strategy. You want the small screen, cheaper phone with everything basic and slightly more? Go for the new Moto G.

You want more options with a more professional sized screen and still the elegance of pureness? Go for the new Moto X.

What's left? A phablet of course. You want to live Google dream in Note's shoes? That's possible now, go for the new Nexus. (that's better shoes actually :))

So they have answer to every sized need in the market. Clever I think.

PS. For the slight differences on the software side. We know Moto series have the closed sourced David and Bionic libraries which will make no difference once the Lollipop is here (long live ART). And also Moto devices will have GPE option and AOSP possibilities as well (they ready are 99.9% same) .
[Nexus 4 General] RASTAVIPER:
And you really believe that the combined sales of Moto G + Moto X could even match the sales of a Nexus 6 model with 5.2" screen?

Unleashed from Onda v957m
[Nexus 4 General] Crisisx1:
6 inch.. Wtf.

That's dumb

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Not to mention the price is ridiculous. $650 and $700 .. I remember I bought my nexus 4 new from the play store for $350.
[Nexus 4 General] 313dash:
I'm going with the 5 or OnePlus if I can get one.
[Nexus 4 General] :
I dont like 6inch screen too . its too big for me . it fits in pocket but only when your standing not when you sit or run.

But anyway im gonna buy it cuz nexus 4 lacks of storage . 13 GB is not enough for me and with no sd card slot i cant do anything about it .

And nexus 6 is completely premium device unlike nexus 4 or 5 . it packs the best in almost every category like battery/ bluetooth / screen / camera /... . and i think snap 805 will be more than enough for atleast 3 years like s4 pro was enough for 3 years for my gaming and use .

So i gotta get along with the BIG issue and buy my love :P
[Nexus 4 General] _delice_doluca_:
5.2" would still be to big for some people. Nowadays screens keep getting bigger but people's hands are still same for centuries :) and many of them might still be thinking they deserve the cutting edge technology in a relatively small (or appropriate for them) screen. Or sometimes their life may force them to have the smaller like their jobs, or lack of one hand etc.

I am a fan of phablet idea and would love to follow it. But this didn't prevent me from abandoning Note II and switching to Nexus 4.

Long story short, there can not be only one best device as most aspects are subjective. So if one wants to dominate the market should cover all the ideas and expectations. Apple did this with one device when they were alone on the tech field because people were feeling cheated by Nokia's "too much varying yet never perfect" devices (it was really frustrating). They made (most of) us think the only need in the phone world was iPhone and it was right. But then the tablet idea came and they had to bring their answer to that area too. So until the phablet idea came Apple was seem like they had all the answers to the all needs on the market.

But when phablets came out they only could resist it for a couple of years then they had to build one. Because when there is a new idea on the customer's head they demand it and the company who says "we don't have it" is doomed to dissappear.

So covering the screen sizes from 4.5" to 6" is a good domination for AOSP world I think.
[Nexus 4 General] daglesj:
Simply too big and too expensive.

Let's not kid ourselves the main reason we bought Nexus phones was the dirt cheap price.
[Nexus 4 General] mELIANTE:
CM's almost as stock as TW... It only looks like stock android.

As for buying a Nexus 6... I just hope moto X Play comes to the UK or my Nexus 4 will stick around for a while longer.
[Nexus 4 General] fahadsul3man:
excuse me , who's this we ? most people dont get that cheap price , nexus 4 and 5 were at least 500 $ in 70 % of the world o till at least 6 months after their release

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LOOOL WTF , ^ this made my day HAHAHAHAHAHHA 'cyanogenmod is as stock as TW' bwahahahha brb LMAO Seriously look up what cyanogenmod is before blabbering nonsense again
[Nexus 4 General] nutt_case:
I think you'll be happy with the Note 3, it's what converted me to Samsung! It's a bit too big for my tastes but the build quality, phenomenal battery life , and choice of accessories/expandability make it a win. IMO if your going to drop that kinda money on a carrier branded phone might as well get one you can use an sd card and have a spare battery or two.

Also the Note's 3 gigs of ram smooth out about 90 percent of the lag in TW.
[Nexus 4 General] RASTAVIPER:
I think you overpriced it.

Nexus 4 shouldn't be higher then 400$ when it got out.

I remember I bought it used at 250€ a few months after it was released, which was like 315$.
[Nexus 4 General] fahadsul3man:
aww did i ? nexus 4 16 gb was at least 500 $ in territories not covered by google subsidies until 5 months , seems like you know nothing about what happens in rest of the world :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] GazaIan:
I'm sorry, I've been hearing things like this ever since the Galaxy S2, claiming something fixes the lag. I'm not very convinced that the phone doesn't have the same lag issues as all the other touchwiz devices.

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As for this post, I kinda have to make the jump to the Nexus 6. I've wanted a new phone, but my Nexus 4 was doing a pretty decent job (aside from the awful camera). Battery life wasn't the best, but I decided to just start hopping back on custom kernels and undervolting and seeing how far that would get me.

But, what really made me itch for the N6 is the fact that my digitizer is partially nonfunctional. There is a large horizontal section along the center that just doesn't work anymore. everything above and below can sense touches, but that center is a total deadzone. I've been wanting a new phone anyway, so I just decided why the hell not, N6 it is. It's going to be a big jump, but with a good battery, nice screen, awesome camera, I'm ready to make the switch.
[Nexus 4 General] Planterz:
Give me a few days, and I'll let you know what I think of the Note 3, compared to my Nexus 4 (LiquidSmooth, Hell's core). I should have the phone in a couple hours, but I work tonight, so I won't have much time to mess with it until tomorrow. I'm trying out the L preview port too, but in the little time I've spent with it, I've found it buggier than a NYC sewer.
[Nexus 4 General] mELIANTE:
I've been using CM for some years now, I know what it is and stock android it is not.
[Nexus 4 General] RASTAVIPER:
First of all, we don't care what was the price in other countries.

You should have in your mind that when people talk about official prices of Google devices, then it's only about the countries that are supported.

If for any reason you get a device overpriced in your country cause it's a parallel import it's not the subject of our discussion.

Secondly, I would advise you to calm down.
[Nexus 4 General] Crisisx1:
The last sentence made me LOL

:p
[Nexus 4 General] evie12604:
Any more thoughts on the note 3? I'm considering going the same route
[Nexus 4 General] _delice_doluca_:
In Turkey it was 750$, nowadays it is around 480-500$
[Nexus 4 General] Planterz:
Well, I need to return the Note, since it's not "mint" nor "pristine" as described. But I did mess around with a bit. Obviously, I haven't rooted it let alone loaded any apps, so I haven't themed it to get rid of TouchWiz ugliness.I did load a video via USB OTG, and it looks nice. Colors really pop due to the AMOLED screen.

Oddly though, I can't seem to decide if it's too big or not big enough. WIthout a case on, it feels OK in one hand, but with a case, it's just a bit to wide for me. And using it in 2 hands, I feel like it should be bigger, like I'm using an actual tablet. I'm not sure if the larger Nexus 6 would feel better or worse. Tried an eBook (ok, I loaded one app to do this), and it felt like it should be just a bit wider. I think my perception of its size might be clouded by the fact that my tablet, an LG 8.3, has a 16X10 ratio rather than the typical 16:9, so when

Despite the very thin and flimsy back cover, when it's on the phone, the entire phone feels very solid. I don't like the speaker being on the bottom - when playing something in landscape, the sound comes from one side, whereas if it were on the back, it'd just sound neutral.

Honestly, I've been thinking about the OnePlus One again. I really have zero use for the S-Pen, and the OPO is a bit narrower. And then of course, everything I love on the Nexus 4 can be done on the OnePlus One. I'll still give the Note 3 its fair shake, when I get another one. Partially due the fact I've already spent $60 on cases, screen protectors, and a spare battery. That way, if I don't keep the Note 3 I can always sell everything as a package.
[Nexus 4 General] royalewihcheese:
Unlikely. I use my phone a lot at work, and not even the Nexus 4 fits in the crappy pants pockets of my work uniform, it has to go up in my shirt pocket. With the N6, at least a quarter of the phone would be hanging out of the top of the pocket all the time, looking even stranger than normal. It would fall out onto dusty concrete or metal grating every time I lean over to get to equipment, rather than being held in place by the pocket flap.

I'm not going to pay twice as much as I've ever paid for a phone, to get something that's so unwieldy that I'm likely to damage it. The specs are damn sweet across the board, and it's probably a good move for Nexus and for Android (the price will probably help eliminate the cluster**** that's typically present when a Nexus goes on sale), but I'll pass personally.
[Nexus 4 General] mustyrash:
Have you considered getting a belt holster for the phone and getting a smart watch for the notifications? Its just a quick thought even though the belt holsters aren't that secure when it comes to pickpockets and knocks.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] royalewihcheese:
Nah, I'd like to get a Moto 360 just because it's cool, but I can't wear it at work due to safety regulations regarding moving equipment. Belt holster is a possibility, but I don't like them in general, and the cases that usually go with them add a lot of bulk and cover up the design. Thanks though.
[Nexus 4 General] moo113:
Well this a bit of a bummer. I guess I'll be hanging onto my four for longer then. The 6 is both too large and too expensive for me. Seems most people are suggesting the N5, 1+1, Moto X 2014, and the Droid Turbo. Is there any perfect combination that offers a high capacity battery, a reasonable screen size, a clean nexus-like experience, and . My thoughts below:

Nexus 5 seems to make sense, but would only be incremental over my N4 (then again, stable LTE would be awesome again)

Nexus 6 too big, too expensive

Moto X 2014 weak for battery capacity at 2300 mAh

Moto Droid Turbo sounds pretty good, 3900 mAh battery to power that extra dense screen and much more expensive for Canadians

HTC OnePlus One still hard to purchase and is from a newer team

So are the Moto bootloaders cool now? I remember them being a huge pain in the butt. I love my simple nexus experience with daily stables from OmniROM and the easier root and unlock I've ever dealt with. But if the new Moto's are cool, seems like that Turbo is up my alley if the price isn't too steep (and with that screen, it may be).
[Nexus 4 General] olyloh6696:
You are wrong there. An invite is far easier to get than you think.

I secured several last week in a matter of a few hours after initiating interest in the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] moo113:
Oh really? Well my interest is certainly announced. I hear they're doing a one-hour open sale on October 27th, so I suppose I can try to be patient.
[Nexus 4 General] olyloh6696:
Yes really.

My shiny new OPO is currently still unboxed back home and it arrived on Tuesday. I'm returning home from uni on the Monday and I will be there to unbox my new toy. :)

I will have 3 invites to give out... They haven't come through yet but I'm prepared to share them on this forum.
[Nexus 4 General] Raistline:
I was seriously considering getting the Oneplus One as well, then I found a size comparison that put it at almost the exact same size as the nexus 6. If I'm going to be carrying around a device that is that large I might as well get one that has 5.9" screen instead of 5.5. Also the Home, Back, and Mutli-tasking capactive buttons are not in the same order as stock Android and that would take time getting used to again.

So, I can handle paying just $50 short of double the price of OPO if I can get stock Android, especially if they both have virtually the same physical dimensions.
[Nexus 4 General] br0ok1ynb0i:
I don't think N6 is expensive, it is just no longer subsidized by Google. I personally would go with a G3 or Note if you like the bigger screens. They will utilized the screen estate better with the multi-window and multitasking features.
[Nexus 4 General] RASTAVIPER:
Second day that I am using Lollipop preview at my Nexus 4 and I have already forgotten other devices like N6, One+One etc

It's like having at my hands a brand-new device. Fast, amazing Os and many new features to play with. And most important: I have it Now!

Long live Nexus 4!
[Nexus 4 General] Raistline:
I don't think I will ever use a Split-screen multi-tasking on a phone, and to get the split-screen you need to use Touchwiz am not a fan of Touchwiz. I like mine as close to stock as possible with only minor tweaks. As for expense, I wish it was in the $400-$500 range but am fine with the $650 price tag since that is still more than $100 cheaper than buying a Note 4 at full price.

Additionally, when it comes to phones I don't think I will ever go back to a non-Nexus device again. Any device I have used that is non-nexus always has issues when using custom ROMS, whether it be GPS delays, BT connection failures, stability issues, input lag, LTE radio connections issues, Wi-Fi failures. And all these usually occur when using a AOSP, CWM or AOKP based ROM running the latest version of Android on a phone that does not have an official Carrier released update to the latest version of Android. There are just too many issues with having to wait for the manufacturer then carrier to release software updates.

I have to be honest though, I am a bit weary on using a phone the size of the Nexus 6, but time will tell as to whether or not I will like the size. If not, I can always sell it then purchase smaller phone.
[Nexus 4 General] evie12604:
Anybody in UK tempted to go for the moto x while it's on offer at special price today through moto maker? I'm tempted
[Nexus 4 General] br0ok1ynb0i:
Yeah one thing that sucks is software updates or custom roms on non-nexus devices! But for me sacrifices were necessary and worth it especially for the battery life (lg g2). I think N6 or OPO sounds like it fits your bill or even the N5.

As for non-nexus, I always roll stock de-bloated because you either lose features or stability going custom. Multi-window I rarely use, but it is appreciated when you do need it.
[Nexus 4 General] funnoam:
My thought with almost 2 years with my N4 :

This is maybe the best phone I ever had and ever will, even if it has a long list of minors issues that bothers me and everyone, I love this phone.

It's robust, fast, really good at almost everything (except maybe for photos and loud concert videos), it has failed me some times with battery life or sleep of death but I just love it.

But now I'm getting really tight with only 16GB of NAND, I thinking buying OPO as soon as I afford it !

N6 just don't feel right for me... Too expensive, too big (a little more than OPO and for my little hands... :p)

Plus I never really like Motorola or any products of this company, so I'm gonna pass on the N6 for now).
[Nexus 4 General] Raistline:
Well, after all the long internal debates with myself I went ahead and bit the bullet. I officially have a Nexus 6 pre-order purchase. I have to admit it is a little scary. This is the biggest and most expensive portable device that I have ever decided to purchase. But at the same time I am very excited to see just how good a phone can possibly be since it has the best specs on the market right now.