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[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] fappapp:
new covers in aliexpress. comes in many colours.

ya me too..i was wondering why it was taking screenshots going into my pocket..thought i had settings on GB for volume button snaps but i dont have GB now and still does it. thanks for pointing this out to me Fred :) i had a few screenshots of the lockscreen and didnt know why!

[MENTION=442818]TAR[/MENTION] , the cover looks abit loose, phone might slide out if you dont have the clasp on?

i want to see the zero leather cover with sticky to fit so that you can bent the back bit for a stand..you know the ones! like the one my inew v3 had http://vifocal.com/media/catalog/pr...ab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/k/sku49426_2.jpg

Its handy for me for netflix or pokerstars app. Does the Sero offical case have this function?

Also i see a new cover, copy of the zero one but available in many colours in aliexpress for $6.77 EDIT: closer i looked at cover again, it seemed to have the holes forzero camera photoshopped into the correct position for Zero cover...i think it possible to be a seller selling for any phone and photoshops the camerahole into correct place LOL i nearly fell for it saying ah $6 why not
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Tarnak:
It isn't loose. Is quite tight because of the height of phone/cover which slips deep inside ;). We'll see later, how it'll work. As you mentioned Allie, I dug a little and you are right:) These s**t heads trying to sell fakes. Besides part of them don't have gap on bottom for speaker and in front for sensors :/
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] s7yler:
I have run a Geekbench 3 battery test on my UMI ZERO. (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.primatelabs.geekbench) According to UMI it should have an 2780 mAh battery.

Here is my results from Geekbench 3. (the score indicates about how big the battery is - so here about 2400 mAh maybe)

What do you guys get?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] fappapp:
thanks s7yler.

Ya i guessed it wasnt true 2700mAh+ because some sites presale were saying 2500.

Since i started using dual sim my battery isnt lasting full day! Strange because another sim conenction should only use a tiny ammount extra?

I havnt yet installed V3.02 anyway so that might improve with an exposed module also.

my phone after first week with great battery, im having issues now and the only thing i changed is the 2sims. like its warns only once for >15% and then goes to 1% after 15mins and shuts off :( . this will improve with January firmware im sure though:o

Or maybe Its chargeing 0%-100% way too fast though like faster than the first week so i think my charging/priming the battery memory first week i might have messed it up maybe, if this is possible to do by charging it too much the first few days before its run down.

this 2400mAh battery could be a deal breaker for new sales because so many 64bit phone releases this month with 3000 or more so even 3300+ batteries
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] s7yler:
But as you know mine is a pre-production model, maybe the final devices have another battery inside. That's why others should also try to do a full test. I actually think that using dual sim will drain the battery faster, because then the phone have to be on 2 different? networks and use 2 radios/modems in the phone, that would use more battery in the long run. But the phones with 3000-3000mah battery are also MUCH thicker than the UMI ZERO.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Vreel:
Can anyone confirm that the compass is working correctly. I tried several free compass apps but looks like there is hardware or calibration problem with my Zero. Also sometimes when I put phone to sleep by pressing the power button screen turns and stays forever on in phone locked page. Does anyone else get this? I'm on 3.01 firmware.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Tarnak:
Hi, I did test for myself, score 2264 from 100% to 0%. Are you sure that tool is good to check batteries? If I'll turn on i.e. wifi how that tool will calculate consumption?

I did test for video playback from http://www.demo-world.eu/trailers/redirect-hd-movie.php?file=47_ronin_2013_tlr1-DWEU.mkv

I've used built-in player (no audio, anyway I didn't here anything). I've played it in a loop for 1h, it took 20% of battery.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] s7yler:
If the phone does more work, it will also get a higher overall score:

Here's what the different numbers mean:

•Battery Runtime is the battery test runtime. If the test started with the battery completely charged and ended with the battery completely discharged then the test runtime is also the battery lifetime.

•Battery Score is a combination of the runtime and the work completed during the battery test. If two phones have the same runtime but different scores, then the phone with the higher score completed more work. As with Geekbench scores, higher battery scores are better.

•Battery Level is the battery level at the start and the end of the test.

(from http://www.primatelabs.com/blog/2014/12/geekbench-33/)

More UMI ZERO results:

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/search?q=UMI+ZERO
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] JankyLV:
Gotta love the EMS speed.

2014-12-06 22:08:00	GUANGZHOU	Posting

2014-12-06 22:52:00	City of Guangzhou	Despatch from Sorting Center

2014-12-14 10:09:00	GUANGZHOU	Arrival at Sorting Center

2014-12-15 02:40:00	GUANGZHOU	Despatch from Sorting Center

Ordered 49 days ago from antelife with fast shipping. Two tracking number changes later - still not even close to my country.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
Gets seriously hot

Hi, i am new to this forum. I got my UMi Zero about a week ago from Comebuy via express shipping, it seem to be a first batch (not prototype) model . All seems good however the phone becomes seriously hot around the back, near the top. Where the SoC and motherboard would be. It gets hot after about 15 mins of normal use i.e. Web Browsing. ANYONE ELSE HAVING THIS ISSUE? The phone seems to operate fine even when hot, but becomes very uncomfortable to the touch.

MEDIATEK chips are supposed to automatically regulate power consumption based on CPU temperature, but it doesnt seem like it does. I have enabled the cpu power down feature which is "supposed" to lower temp, but it makes no difference. Also notice that it doesnt have a CPU temp sensor :( making testing an issue. But it does have a bettery temp sensor :)

I HAVE NOT YET NOTICED ANY SCREEN LIFT ISSUE FROM THE HEAT. BUT I WANT TO KNOW IF ANYONE HAS A SIMILAR ISSUE.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Kodaro:
Well it's metal and metal gets hot easily. Download an app that show you temperature of cpu and battery and then look if it is really hot or if you are just panicking without reason.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
Umi Zero gets really hot

Yes, your right that it would get hot due to the metal. I have used an app for checking the temp but there is no temp sensor for the CPU. The battery has a temp sensor and it remains cool even under load. The CPU is under minimal load too, considering that its an octocore. Normal use only really uses 2 of the 8 cores.

I am thinking that it may get better after the fimware updates by having better optimized software. But i cant get it to update as the phone doesnt go into download mode when i plug it into the PC (while holding the vol- button). I end up in the android recovery menu (without the text displayed, and only the image of an open android showing. I would update the firmaware to v3.02 if i could get it into download mode.

As for the phone heating up issue, i will try to get a reading for the exterior temp of the phone. The battery drains much faster when the phone is hot, likely caused by the increased resistance in the chips. I will also try the battery test to compare with others.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Kodaro:
The 3c toolbox gives temperature for cpu. But I don't know if it's reliable. The open android is correct. Install the vcom driver and you can flash with sp flash tool.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] fappapp:
craparse to it! I foolishly flashed the same ROM!

read the dates as 1711 and 1811 not 17/12! so went for the 18 thinking was newer :cyclops:

Ill try the new V3.02 now.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] s7yler:
I just saw at efox that they send a flipcover with the phone and offer 30 days free return if the phone has ANY kind of error. (they say they pay ALL costs - also the returncosts back to China) - that's pretty good for anyone that should have any doubts about the phone. I don't see that Antelife for example offer such thing. I'm just curious, but have people got their phone by now from Antelife?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] fappapp:
Great offer by efox. Read today that efox own coolicool and today purchased/took over antelife!

Antelife website was down for hours last night..back up now though. My phone came from Antelife ordered in early November.

Flashed V3.02 and seems to have fixed my reboot issues.. (That or my xposed settings got reset). Thanks s7yler.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] JankyLV:
I told my story before, but here it goes again:

Ordered from antelife 3rd november. Bought with EMS shipping (usually faster than DHL due to customs). Tracking number started working december 6th. Aaaand now the last update was december 15th. Nothing since then. Still not even in my country.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] usadream:
DHL worked reay fast here: ordered via antelife, the zero left hongkong on saturday, arrived today, 4 days later (switzerland)

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anyone else having major bluetooth sound drops using a bluetooth headset? cant even listen to music like that. i'm on 3.02. tried to unpair/pair/reboot etc, no change
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] fappapp:
Antelife didnt even send me a code..mine still said processing( i had emailed about the delay) and I got a surprise to the door oneday a week later at 10am...out of bed and couldnt find my bankcard and no money to pay the customs tax LOL, DHL wouldnt release the phone but called back later when i found my visa! nice surprise:D

Anyway replyng about bluetooth..ya i was really disappointed my first day when bluetooth kept cutting when in my pocket BUT after i charged my nfc headphones(cost more than the phone $250 so their quality wasnt the issue) and unpaired and paired again they work better than with any phone, no disconnect even tested leaving phone in other room and works seamlessly when im in the bathroom across the hall.

test how fast bluetooth sends a file to laptop/ other device compare to last phone and try again unpair and pair headset from a distance....mine just corrected itself after two days i donno how, maybe antenna needed warming up!!!

make sure your headphones are fully charged when pairing, try with a different music app (i know i dont see how this makes much of a difference but worth a shot) hope it comes good for you.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] peter_90:
Hy guys,

Any word on the Zero flip case? It should be available by now :D.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] usadream:
Recovery

Has anyone managed to install a recovery? I tried twrp from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2798257 but it just boots to the ZERO logo and never enters recovery...
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] usadream:
tried as suggested, fully charged headset, paired at a distance of a couple of meters and all good :) thanx for helping
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Tdjee:
Is there anybody else, because i'm also have the same problem. I can't go into download mode. So no update possible. Maybe someone has a solution/fix for this and can help us?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] arna1958:
Did you instal the driver for sp flash tool?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Tdjee:
No, i did not. Where can i find the flashtool driver?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] arna1958:
Try from here <<https://mega.co.nz/#!aNohXZTS!Pd2xuUcNhK0AfZ_1gLoT_lqX0L0jOKdEXiTY4b_4Wds>>.

Remember that you have to switch off the phone before to connect to pc
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Tdjee:
Thanx for the link, i will try tomorrow.

Happy christmas to you arna1958
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] arna1958:
Merry Christmas to you!
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] cukisan:
Hi guis.. Has anyone tried the miui v5?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Tarnak:
Is not yet ported:)
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] cukisan:
I find it in needrom... If doesn't have bug I would try
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Papa666:
I tryed... Install (After full wipe) abort: "Error: Invalid OTA package, missing scatter"...

Anyone installed succesfull MIUI???

Greetz
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Tarnak:
It's said to use CWM, I didn't hear about anybody with CWM on Zero.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] cukisan:
I created one with a tool but it is too heavy for mtk ... there is a guide to lighten the cwm?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Tarnak:
Hi,

By heavy, you mean partition size? Umi Zero has 10mb recovery partition.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] cukisan:
I read in a forum that the recovery may not exceed 6414kb, can brick phone
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] hanuma:
For MT6582 / MT6592 recovery may be 16Mb, It's ok
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] usadream:
Any chance that you share it with us :) ?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Th1j513:
Hi guys, I really enjoyed reading the posts here. My Umi Zero has been send to me yesterday and I'm expecting to find it in my mail next week. I'm kinda new with this, but I've been looking if I could get the CyanogenMod on it, because it looks great on the OnePlus One. Is it compitable with the Umi Zero and can I maybe get a link to some guide? Thanks!:)
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
I think its going take quite some time before you see cynogenmod on it. At the moment there is only miui v5 on needrom and by the sounds of it, nobody has installed it. I just hope the normal updates keep coming. I would like to see lollipop on it asap, since it will increase smoothness aswell as battery life. Being a heavy user i need as much battery life as possible.

The overheating issue i was having with my one has thankfully gone after the v3.02 update. It feels about half the temp compared to before. The current cpu temp hits about 45 degrees during web browsing, so i am thinking that it may have been around 90 degrees before (it felt almost burning hot). Thanks s7yler for the update and thanks everyone for your help.

Also, since the update i have notice that the battery percentage drops from 100% to about 92% in about 5 min. This happens while the phone is completely idling with lowest brightness and no data or wifi on. 8% IN A FEW MINUTES DOING NOTHING, how crazy is that. Can this be affected by charging it slower via a pc usb, or battery calibration, or a battery fault or even a software issue.

I am currently doing the geekbench battery test so i can compare the results with you guys.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Jeffylaw:
Nice one ashiqs. .. more detail reviews please! !
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
poor battery score

Ok, the bettery test is done, and i got a low score. Battery runtime: 5:07 Battery Score: 1942.

Now i am unsure if the battery score is supposed to reflect the capacity since that would mean that my battery is way way way below what it should be. I left the phone idling for the first few hours, then i used it as a portable hotspot and in the final hour i used it for 3d gaming. I might try it again tonight, this time leave it idling to see the difference.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
Were you using the phone normally while the battery test was active? Or did you let the phone idle?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] usadream:
Same here, during the first few minutes the battery drops to 90% with pretty much nothing going on. Also I have crazy high Wifi / Cell standby / Phone idle battery usage, each around 30% (with good 3g signal and good wifi reception). Really looks like a SW issue of 3.02
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
So it seems that this is not an isolated issue. I have had a look using 3c toolbox to see if anything is happening. During the battery percantage drop, the cpu is hardly being used as i.e. most cores are turned off. This issue happens even when there are no data communication on. This happens when the screen is off aswell, but takes a bit longer. I just hope its a firmware bug as that means that it can be fixed.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Tarnak:
So, i did test with screen dim off. I didn't use a phone on test time.

That's a rreason why i've asked earlier about geekbench metrology of a battery test.

Could you do a test of video playback?

I mentioned it few pages earlier.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] peter_90:
Did this happen with the previous firmware version?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] djtomas:
dim screen switched ON?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
poor battery score

I tested the first time with the 'dim screen' function turned on (however i dont think that should make much difference since i keep the screen brightness always at the lowest, so it cant dim it any more). I didnt notice it while on the v3.01 firmware, however i only fully charged the phone twice with that firmware on it.

I have just started the test again, this time with 'dim screen' off and i will leave the phone alone (it also has no sim in now, so this time i should get the absolute max score out of it.

PLEASE CAN OTHERS DO THIS TEST, and also keep an eye on the battery percentage from 100% to 90%.

In my case the battery drains normally after it passes the 90% mark.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] usadream:
I would like to help out testing, but my ZERO's 3G radio died on my not even 1 week after receiving it. No phone calls, no sms possible, no data connection available (only wifi works). Tried reinstalling the ROM with no luck. Tried another SIM with no luck, triued the 2nd SIM slot with no luck! Kinda speachless....
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Papa666:
This Malfunction i had to... But only for a fiew Minutes... Without restart never more...
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
new battery test score.

Ok, the new test is done and i got 5:50 battery runtime and 2259 as the battery score, so its much better than before, but still not upto what UMi claim it is. I have also took a screenshot of the battery drain chart when it was at 60%. As you can see it is a gradual curve instead of a straight line (the phone is idle throughout).

Still got no idea why it drains to 90% so fast though :(
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] cukisan:
this is the recovery cwm I created, did not try it because I still have doubts about the size needed. and also do not have the original. the phone is a bomb but to be honest a little modding begins to miss ..
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Tarnak:
I'll repeat what I said before, don't look at results of this tool, they are not accurate. Results should be always the same with +/- 2 % tolerance but for you is +10%.

On mine battery-test is similar,I've observed the quick drop from 100% to 90% of battery. Hard to say why, maybe because of the fast charge feature.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] arcatarc:
I've flashed it(using mobileuncle tool)....made a backup and then restoring it...EVERITHYG WORKED!..you're great man,now we can start modding....
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] uledu:
I feel sorry for you. Any news with it? Keep us informed about it.

I ordered the 0 on the 16.12 (shipped on 20.12) and the waiting period is killing me.

About the bad 3G reception, my carrier is only 3G 900/1200 band, and the signal is not so good in my area. My hope is that I can use it inside the house. Otherwise I will shipped back the phone.

What is your (all users) experience with the 3G signal?

Best regards.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] JankyLV:
You haven't even waited for 2 weeks :D

Some of us (me for example) have been waiting for almost 2 months :)
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] arcatarc:
I've got the same or better 3g signal than my Lumia 925...

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Now i'm testing MIUI rom from needrom and everything seem to work....
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] cukisan:
Superb !! Tonight I get the miui ...

I've flashed it(using mobileuncle tool)....made a backup and then restoring it...EVERITHYG WORKED!..you're great man,now we can start modding....
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] mirchichamu:
Can anybody confirm the low light of hardware buttons? Before someone wrote that the hardware buttons are barely visible. Is it true?

I want to buy this phone for my family. I want your feedback about the phone as a whole. I shall be much thankful.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Papa666:
Yes... But it´s OK...
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] mirchichamu:
Thanks papa666 for your reply. Can you through some light on the overall quality and performance? How you compare to other similar priced phones? Is it worth the price? I think there is still some bugs. Thanks.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
I think you are right. There shouldnt be a big difference in the score (it seem that this battery test tool isnt accurate). As for the fast drop of percentage, i dont think that its the fast charger, since i have not once used the fast charger on the phone. I use a pc usb.

I have noticed the Antutu Benchmark score increase by about 1000 point after the v3.02 update. I have also done the antutu cpu stability test and i qas very impressed. When the mt6595T gets hot it remains very stable. When compared to a snapdragon 800 (lg g2) it about 5 times more stable at higher temps and about 3 times better than a exynos 4412 (galaxy s3). So thats good news.:)

Also the ram score (in terms of speed and power) leaves even the snapdragon 801 in the dust.:D
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Papa666:
Quality: Nice

Performance: for my daily use enough... I´m not a poweruser, Battery every day better... (2-3 Days with avera. use)

Price i mean for this Phone ok! Similar Phone: maybe 3x Zopo...
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] mirchichamu:
Thanks for your feedback. I appreciate that.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
Put simply, it has 'almost' iphone build quality (and likely the 'coolest' looking phone of 2014), performance outdoes the snapdragon 600 (galaxy s4), screen is epic (fantastic veiwing angles, contrast, brighness, colour and responsiveness). Camera is better than galaxy s3 (done a direct comparison). Battery aint all that good (over exaggerated in adverts). BUT ALL THESE SHOULD ONLY GET BETTER AFTER UPDATES AND OPTIMISATIONS. Ergonomics could be better, (since port placement is a little odd) and still waitin for a gel cover to emerge (since the current covers wont provide sufficient protection.

FOR ME ITS main negative point is the battery life, (but it should hopefully get better).

Oh and also a UK charger would have been better.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Papa666:
Battery and Mem Usage

For Battery-Usage:View attachment 3087945

Ram (Picuriram)

View attachment 3087946
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] mirchichamu:
Thanks mate for the excellent feedback.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] elkosith:
Hi, I would like to say hello to everyone here.

I'm still waiting for my Zero to be shipped from aliexpress (bought 2 of them during the second promotion).

I just flashed my current phone with MIUI 5 and I can say I like it a lot. I hope later on MIUI would be available also for the Zero.

Items from Aliexpress usually take about a month to arrive here after being shipped. The waiting is killing me