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[Xperia Z3 General] yasockie:
I did the test, the phone failed, then I realised it was connected via USB for charging :D

As soon as I disconnected and sealed the port, the test went as expected - the pressure went up.

Great idea and now I double checked it by actually submerging it and it still works. Phew!
[Xperia Z3 General] cheeyeen:
My upper left nylon corner cap randomly fell off this morning when I picked my phone up from a sofa. Looked around in forums and people stating up to USD 200 for repair (wth?) because the corners are attached to screen (i.e. broken corner = fix the whole frame). Sony said it's possible that the waterproofing is compromised (to scare us?).

I checked my pressure test with the cap out, it's still working airtight vs. if I open one flap. So does this mean the waterproof is fine?

If that's the case I will just stick the corner back with some super glue and live with it until the next mobile change two years later xD
[Xperia Z3 General] adize:
Very cool. This will certainly help me in buying my own Z2 ( I believe Z2 has pressure sensor) :o

you deserve to be thanked :D
[Xperia Z3 General] antipesto93:
I usually take my phone in the shower, last week I did it and the phone broke even though the seal was closed.

Sony replaced it for free and now I try check before putting it in water using this method...

also, you can use an app such as this

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kristofjannes.sensorsense

to easily see the pressure without having to go to service tests.
[Xperia Z3 General] water275:
Cool, thanks for share :p
[Xperia Z3 General] Hannah Stern:
Nice, thanks.
[Xperia Z3 General] Vladonexxx:
True. My last unit had that and I had to sit the top of the USB cover then the bottom for it to sit well.

If that doesn't work it might not be the cover. A friend had that with a z2 and the unit was built poorly. A new cover didn't fit better so they replaced the phone.
[Xperia Z3 General] Marília de Oliveira:
Nice :D
[Xperia Z3 General] id3alistic:
My pressure stays at 1009 while decimals go up and down.

I assume my phone is not waterproof? I'm looking at the back panel and on 1 side it looks to be sticking out more. It's definitely not flush like everywhere else.
[Xperia Z3 General] shtepsel:
is this normal

Hi guys,

just a quick question.

I have made a video when I do the test. the pressure is raising, but barely. It' was not like that before ( when I done it before it went up a least by 3-4 milibars .But I don't know is from the lollipop update or something else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUSErpmBqm0

Update:

Turns out it was not normal. I dunked it in the sink and a tiny bubble came out from the area near the volume buttons. 5 minutes after removing the phone, the touch screen stop responding randomly. After 10 more minutes the screen started flickering for a couple of minutes and went black. Now when i press the power button the screen lights up for a split second and then goes black again.

The water indicators near the 2 ports are white ( not triggered ) so my guess is water shorted the touchscreen and then the backlight.

it's currently in the repair shop and i'm waiting for news

My advice would be to only dunk the phone in water if the milibars go up at least 5-6 when pressing the phone
[Xperia Z3 General] baastrup:
Im going to replace mey back glass on my z3 do you guys know if its possible to upgrade ti with Qi/wireless charge now while i have et open?
[Xperia Z3 General] nedooo:
This thread is nonsense it should be closed!!!!

---------- Post added at 08:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:55 AM ----------

This is just misleading since speakers membranes can be loosened with cleaning cloth and produce water damage while this fake waterproof test shows positive on waterproof ability.
[Xperia Z3 General] Bäcker:
If you temper with your phone mechanically and impair waterproofing by damaging the speaker protection, then this is purely your problem.

This test works as has been confirmed many times.
[Xperia Z3 General] nedooo:
Test?

"Test"?

You call this test of waterproof ability of this phone?

Are you even reading what I wrote???

You are trying to mislead people!!!

Only question is are you doing this on purpose or just you are wrongly assuming this lie is true?

So what is it?

Why and how I loosened speaker protective membrane, or it was manufacturing fault (I got brand new Z3 from Sony no extra charge) is irrelevant to the fact that even with both top and bottom membrane losened this false test of yours showed positive to waterproof ability, while obviously it wasn't waterproof.

I never got it water damaged since I was not idiot enough to try to submerge it under water when this childish test wannabe showed me it was waterproof!!!!

Now if you have any decency, beg moderators to close this thread and write warrning disclaimer in the OP that this is in not the way anyone should test waterproof ability of the phone...
[Xperia Z3 General] Bäcker:
What exactly is your problem?

If the test fails your phone is definitely not waterproof. If the test is good, your phone "should" be waterproof. This of course is no wildcard to throw away you common sense. If the phone fails due to water you will have to contact sony for waranty.

BTW, if I remember correctly water actually enters the speakers - that is why they might not work correctly after submerging the phone for a while. So maybe you just damged the dust cover - who says that your phone is not waterproof any more?

If you have a better method go ahead and tell us. Now stop trashing the thread.
[Xperia Z3 General] netizensmith:
Perhaps changing the title to "how to test if your seals are working" would be a good idea. Because this test is pretty accurate for that.
[Xperia Z3 General] Bäcker:
perhaps, but if all seals are good, including screen and back, the waterproofing should be intact as per sony design
[Xperia Z3 General] nedooo:
Problem is that this is misleading PERIOD!!!!!!!

And I am 100% convinced that Sony replaced water damaged phones on their good will not on acknowledged warranty claim...
[Xperia Z3 General] Bäcker:
your speculations are misleading. Produce facts or please leave the thread.

As I said before, the dust cover has no play in the waterproofing. Your damaged dust covers on the speakers are just that, damaged dust covers. Phone is still waterproof. Produce facts indicating otherwise or stop posting.

Sony exchanged your phone as dust covers should not break
[Xperia Z3 General] nedooo:
Nope, they exchanged it since there were bright spots on the display (not pixels but spots), and they told me they need to change motherboard and display, and after few days they offered me new white Z3 since they did not had black display in stock.

Maybe speaker is waterproof without that protective membrane but it was loose and I saw few users report water damage after this "test" passed...

I can't provide facts but neither can you (maybe part of the phone where the preasure sensor is placed is sealed but not rest of it)....
[Xperia Z3 General] bsrodrigues:
I would have loved to have known this 5 months ago.

I've alread gone through three two phones due to waterproof failure.

The first time I bought a Z3, I dipped it in water (clean, room temperature water) and it broke (I couldn't really see anything different, but the touchscreen wouldn't work). I contacted the seller (I had bought it online) and he sent me another one. I tried the same thing thinking the first one and the same exact thing happened.

I really liked the phone, so I decided to give it a thrird chance.

This time I didn't dip in water but less than one month later, I dropped it and cracked the screen. Unlike other phones, the touchscreen doesn't work when the glass is cracked.

Maybe it is just my bad luck, but I am not buyng another Sony phone ever again...
[Xperia Z3 General] netizensmith:
Well, this test can tell you if your phone is definitely not waterproof but it can't tell you if it definitely is. I appreciate the OP will be upset about this but the title is misleading because this test does NOT test if your phone is waterproof, as proven by many on here (me included) who had a phone that passed this test but subsequently died as soon as it took a dip.

Carphone Warehouse have replaced my Z3 with a new one. I won't be testing its waterproofness!
[Xperia Z3 General] bsrodrigues:
This really sucks since a major selling point of the Z3 is the improved waterproofness.
[Xperia Z3 General] awionetka:
Service guide for Z3:

"The Pressure Sensor test will check the atmospheric pressure around the phone

and states a value. When you put the phone on the floor, read the value. When

you raise the phone up as high as you can, the value should decrease about

approx 0.2 to 0.3 Millibar. The value shouldn’t be static."

So is this test really relevant to Z3 being waterproof or not?
[Xperia Z3 General] Ulver:
I got that same response when I sent in my phone for failed waterproofing. So basically I don't think we should use that test to test if the phone is waterproof. Despite Sony's response, from my own experience, my phone got water in it despite passing the pressure test.
[Xperia Z3 General] adichandra:
Damn. I press *#*#service#*#* million times and it didnt show up the service menu, which i believed it used to work. And i realized now im on cm12.1 rom. Well there is still a hard way to test though.
[Xperia Z3 General] nedooo:
So hard, one app "cpuz" to install, hard life, hard times bro...
[Xperia Z3 General] adichandra:
Ah yes. Just installed it. Thanks. Pressure was rising when i pressed the screen, but with flap open, pressure wasn't increasing. Nice to know.
[Xperia Z3 General] Bäcker:
I edited the title and added a disclaimer.

We should consider this test as a reassurance, not as a definite answer to the waterproofing. Please keep in mind that by design everybody should consider this phone as waterproof if we believe Sony Marketing - without any tests ;)

Unfortunately we know that this is not always true. So this is the best we got. If the phone passes the test, there is a high chance that the warranty will cover the case.
[Xperia Z3 General] AlvinZahran98:
I tested it with my Z3, and when the flaps closed, it worked like it should be, when i pressed the back and front it increases like from 1011 to 1018, and I didn't let it go but it went down to 1011, and i let go, it went to 1009 and went back to 1011. with flaps opened, it doesn't change.. But as what I found in xda too like in couple of post in last couple of pages in this thread (or other thread, I can't remember), when someone said that in headphone jack, there is like light in the phone, and I checked mine, turn the brightness all the way up, and I didn't see a flashing light, or like a bright or any light, but I see changes inside the jack when I turn the brightness up and down all the time.. It is almost invisible, but i can see that, even just a bit, like rectangular shape of the display, but just tiny one... So my phone is waterproof? If my phone isn't waterproof, I don't know if Sony Service Centre in Indonesia would accept my claim of warranty since service centre here sucks.. To Indonesian users, did they accept our claim of that headset jack light that made me worry about waterproofness of my phone?
[Xperia Z3 General] stanley08:
My NC earphones stopped working with the jack of my phone (i read it's a hardware issue with some Z3s), other earphones work including iPhone 6 one and stock one in the box (MH750). I haven't even bothered to take my phone to Sony here in Nigeria as they will try to convince me that it's my NC headphones that are bad even if it works perfectly on my Friend's Z2 and even on my computer (minus NC function of course).

Bottomline, service in 3rd world countries especially and a couple others is almost always poor. Unless i go with a phone that the jack is completely not working, they won't attend to my phone. So i rather just not bother. Lol.
[Xperia Z3 General] AlvinZahran98:
I asked my city's Sony call centre and about the screen that is visible when turn the brightness way way up and down while looking at the headset hole, he said that it's okay, my phone is still waterproof, they said something like there is something inside the hole to prevent it to get to the screen.. should I believe him? Now I doubt my waterproof phone to be waterproof:laugh::confused::(

Please help me, someone?? I tried the *#*#service#*#* and the test went well. at first it is at 1008 and then it increased to about 1017 or something when I pressed the screen and went from 1008 to 1011-1012 when I pressed the back, while I didn't let go (still pressing) the screen, the number went down to 1008 again and then I let go.. then went from 1008 to 1006 and back to 1008 again.. that is normal, right?
[Xperia Z3 General] stanley08:
This test is barely 90%+ conclusive that ur phone is water-proof. So don't take it 'so seriously'.

However, to answer your question, yes it is normal and ur phone seems waterproof, I'm not saying u should put it in water tho. Personally, i might never put mine. Used Z2 for 13 months, never put in water once. I plan doing same to Z3.
[Xperia Z3 General] AlvinZahran98:
I don't plan to put mine, though hahaha

I just want to know, in case accident happen
[Xperia Z3 General] Bäcker:
Three choices:

a) act as your phone was not waterproof and be careful like with any other phone. Consider the waterproofing as an extra insurance that you'll prefer not to test/need

B) use your phone as advertised by sony and rely on the waterproofing - if it fails hope that the warranty works

c) be careful and try to minimize water contact.

I personally have chosen c), but I also used the phone in the water to get family fotos I wouldn't be able to have without that phone. So far it's stood up fine.
[Xperia Z3 General] Ulver:
I did option B and the waterproofing failed. Took almost a month for Sony to send me the new one. I'm going with option A now.
[Xperia Z3 General] G4l4xio:
Yes it is waterproof because it passed pressure sensor test. My friend had z3 which looked perfectly sealed but did not passed that test, he put it in glass of water and it died. Mine passed pressure sensor test and I saw that tiny light which is normal (told me from my sony customer care) put it in water and it passed waterproof test, also my friend got a new z3 from sony which works great in water now and on pressure sensor test. Also my z3 was in chlorinated pool for like 25-30min at 3m depth and it did not died, same for glass with fresh water test, this is interesting too http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/08/1...on-the-sea-bed-remains-in-full-working-order/. Can we do that same test with m4 aqua too even if it has not barometer/pressure sensor on tests, if we download barometer app? We think that his z3 died because that same light because there was no water damage on indicators from flaps and no water in screen. Probably torn out protection in headphone jack because his z3 did not passed that pressure sensor test, customer care replied us something like that too.
[Xperia Z3 General] AlvinZahran98:
But if he didn't pass that pressure sensor test, why did he so eager to put his phone in glass water?:D:D
[Xperia Z3 General] G4l4xio:
Because he is so stubborn and won't listen to anyone. Just because phone looked perfectly sealed like mine which passed the test he put it in water after I have put mine x). What do you think about that m4 aqua question?
[Xperia Z3 General] Mr.Jay:
My device shows 945 when I'm not making any pressure over it. When I press over it to make pressure it shows values between 945 and 948, sometimes 950 when I make a lot of pressure.

It's my Z3 waterproof or I should stay away from water?

Sent from my Xperia Z3
[Xperia Z3 General] nedooo:
Stay away...
[Xperia Z3 General] Mr.Jay:
Sorry I have read again my last message again and I made a mistake.

When I'm not making any pressure over the phone it shows 943** and when I press over it I can see values between 945 and 948 and sometimes when I apply more pressure it shows 950

My bad ?

This make any difference?

Sent from my Xperia Z3
[Xperia Z3 General] nedooo:
I would not gamble...your call ;)
[Xperia Z3 General] AlvinZahran98:
Lol ?

I don't think it will work with m4 aqua. Better you check in m4's thread and ask some questions like that. But they should have less worries because their usb port is capless although their microsd amd sim slot's flap could also get damaged, the possibilities will be just a bit
[Xperia Z3 General] G4l4xio:
Too bad, we can only check it then with dunking it in water :eek: also I think that usb port can get broken and exsposed to water, it will be used every day for charging phone. Magnetic charging ftw :D! Opened only once usb port to put sim in it and micro sd port for sd card once to put it in :). Transfering files from laptop to mobile and vice versa with wireless transfer.
[Xperia Z3 General] AlvinZahran98:
I think m4 users have to test their phones' waterproofness by dunk it in some water in front of sony shop's or service centre's people:rolleyes:
[Xperia Z3 General] G4l4xio:
Don't understand waterproof phones without barometer even s4 active has it :eek:.
[Xperia Z3 General] nedooo:
What does the barometer measure?
[Xperia Z3 General] AlvinZahran98:
M2 aqua?
[Xperia Z3 General] G4l4xio:
Nope m2 aqua does not have it
[Xperia Z3 General] met97:
Hey guys, too bad I saw this thread too late..

Today I was in pool and I decided to try the impermeability of my Z3 for the first time. I made some sub photos and everything seemed to be good, same when I got out of pool. It was about 5:00 pm. This night I noticed that the phone signal completely disappeared... I tried to restart several times, reinserting the sim... But nothing. I also tried inserting another sim, and it didn't work.

Do you think water killed my Z3 antenna? :(

Ah, and I have just made the test this thread proposes... The pressure is 1004,70 when I don't press anywhere. When I press, also hardly, it goes at MAX 1005, not stable, in fact it goes, without I stop pressing, at 1003 (for an istant) and it gets back at 1004 millibars. I think that an increase of 1 millibar is definitely irrelevant.

This makes me think that the malfunction is really caused by the water... Why Sony, why you do this :(
[Xperia Z3 General] AlvinZahran98:
Claim warranty asap
[Xperia Z3 General] met97:
Ok :(

Do you think I should flash stock rom and uproot before I claim warranty?

Inviato dal mio D6603 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Xperia Z3 General] AlvinZahran98:
Yeah you can 'tweak' the service centre by doing that
[Xperia Z3 General] met97:
Ok thanks for replying.

Is there a guide that explains how to reflash stock rom and unroot the device? I searched, but I didn't find anything....

Thank you again.

I'm going to contact Sony and call a courier to send my Z3 to assistence... I HOPE they will repair with warranty!
[Xperia Z3 General] Jkay7:
A friend of mine had a water damage two times on his Z (the very first) with closed flaps. They replaced it both times, so there is hope :)
[Xperia Z3 General] met97:
Ok, was his Z3 completely stock? I don't know what to do to remove root, and if it can compromise the warranty...

EDIT: Done.
[Xperia Z3 General] Mr.Jay:
Can you share the link of the tutorial please?

Sent from my Xperia Z3
[Xperia Z3 General] madmax67:
this test is irrelevant, dont try . I did it, it was successful on the screen. i went to swim with the phone, 5 minutes max, then phone stoped working, screen flickering then no more touche panel... Back to service center, they changey the MB, antenna, touch panel , and they told me the phone was not water resistant, and now yes.

But i will not try to take it in water
[Xperia Z3 General] nedooo:
Rooting voids warranty...so you want to cheat Sony, and they are the bad guys?
[Xperia Z3 General] met97:
What do you mean... With your logic everyone who roots his phone, and he has a hardware problem (completely indipendent from the root), should stay with a broken phone just because "root voids warranty"?

Think to all the users with a Nexus 5, 90% of them is going to root it, unlock bootloader, and the phone after a week presents a factory defect... They shouldn't use the warranty?

Anyway, I restored the phone to factory rom, and unrooted, it's completely original, and the problem persists. The defect is under warranty because it's their fault, so I sent the phone to Sony. BTW who said they are "bad guys"?
[Xperia Z3 General] nedooo:
I do not care about you opinion, not even a bit.

I presented you facts, if you like it or not it doesn't change it.

If 100% users decide to void warranty who gives a $hit!

Not in one moment did you mentioned your phone had manufacture fault, and there was not any sort of evidence. So you took a wild guess it had water damage, and started barking at Sony...

And even in court if all facts were presented you voided warranty and theoretically and practically your messing with system could cause overheat that could lead to physical damage...

And all those whining and crying girls are just annoying...and yet starting to play smart...

A lot of phone makers are generous to their customers and "close one eye" in similar cases, but guess what that doesn't means they are right...
[Xperia Z3 General] WaterProofApp:
There is a WaterProof test app

Hi guys,

I saw this thread about testing if a phone is waterproofed without submerging it in the water.

Check out this app that we just lunched. It's still under development and new features will be available soon.

Search for com.technoloid.barometer or Waterproof (the icon with phone in hand) in Google Play

Kind regards,

Vali Draganescu from Thechnoloid
[Xperia Z3 General] AlvinZahran98:
just take risks on that... even though you don't want to try it, just try it and see if they just talking b*ll**** again just like before.

so if they just eating their own saliva again like what they said before, you can always just screw them or sue them :D:D:D
[Xperia Z3 General] ~Alphard:
Hello. When I press the phone it goes from 1006 to 1012. And it decreases back slowly even if I keep pressing. What do you think? Can I submerge it?

Enviado desde mi D6603 mediante Tapatalk
[Xperia Z3 General] Mr.Tom_Tom:
This looks like a normal behavior.

I wrote a small open source app which can show the pressure decrease over time. Check out this topic or the direct link to the app on Google Play.
[Xperia Z3 General] ~Alphard:
Thank you! The app seems great. I've exposed the device under water whit no problem yesterday. Audio jack got crazy at the morning but seems okay now.

Enviado desde mi D6603 mediante Tapatalk
[Xperia Z3 General] brockyneo:
Hi I've just don't test and it goes up a couple of didgets then quickly goes down but I have light coming from the lanyard hole and when I put my finger over the hole and do test again it's goes higher then normal and is slower to return

Does this mean the phone isn't waterproof

Starts at 1005 and goes to around 1011 then back to 1005 again

Thanks
[Xperia Z3 General] shelton90:
Yes that should be fine if the number doesn't react to you applying pressure then it's not water tight

I just wanted to add that my screen glue came loose and my screens falling out so did the pressure test and obviously it wasn't water tight, tried to fix it but nothing worked..

But

I bought a normal cover that (like most covers) has a little edge tgat goes over the side of the screen and holds it down and the pressure test works haha #lifehack
[Xperia Z3 General] aidaz:
I think this test is not always an indicator. As I have just got my z3 back from warranty repair (changed battrry, lcd, speakers and whole frame) and I have tried your test. I apply pressure and release it it goes from 983.80 to barely 984.00 and in a few msecs it drops to 983.6 and then back to normal 983.80. Though I haven't tried to plunge it.

Edit. I also asked them via email, if the waterproof after repair still exists, and they confirmed it.