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[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
I have just seen something a little odd but interesting. I charged the phone to 100% enable airplane mode. Unplugged the charger an left the phone (with the screen off). I came back over 3 hour later and found that the battery is still at 100%. It didnt drop this time. But now i have got the screen on and i am using the phone and battery has dropped at the usual fast speed. But enabling airplane mode stopped the rapid drain (while screen was off). Can anyone else try this please.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Hi I'm Suhkoi:
Would you recommend get this? I have a Galaxy S3 right now, planning to sell it and get this. Would I see a noticeable difference in speed?

Currently running CyanogenMod 11 4.4.4
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Tarnak:
When I've received phone (few own apps) I did full charge at night and unplugged, later in the morning I still had 100%.

Another thing, Today I fully charged and went to work. I did some calls, few sms's and I've played few levels on Prime Defenders, after 8h of work I had 10% battery drop. I was shocked that I've only used such small amount of battery.

One thing that changed is that I've exceeded limit of mobile data, so mobile operator turned it off.

Btw. Try smart radio feature in xposed + GB, it'll disable 3g when not needed.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] mucip999:
Hi, I really want to buy this phone because of its design and hardware, but for the software, do you guys think that it will get further improvement? I mean, is the sw dev really struggling for improvement? And do you guys think there will be lollipop?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
There has only been the one update since i have had it. And that has made a noticable improvement. But the software is still being worked on. I would say it has a number of improvements over the galaxy s3 (that is also my current phone, i am not currently using the umi as my daily driver since i am still testing it out). I believe that umi have promised an update to lollipop, but i am unsure on how long it will be till we get it (if we get it at all). Considering that the first update made a big improvement, i think it safe to assume the next update should to.

In terms of battery, i have just lost 40% watching a 1 hour video on iplayer via wifi and lowest brightness with earphones (in other words the battery drained fast). The other day i played a high graphics 3d game on it (bards tale on standard texture pack, all settings to max) for almost 1 hour and only lost only 20% if not less. It ran the game flawlessly at a silky smooth fps :laugh:

By the sounds of it, it may be a firmware bug, since its sometimes good, bad or average). I hope it gets sorted out though.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] mucip999:
Thank you 06asyiqs, I guess i could place an order now. Oh yea but what about the camera is it 13 or 16mp? And how does it perform in low light?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] facaletz:
Try CPU-Z Apk and you'll see the capacity of UMI-Zero's battery.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] mucip999:
Wow 1000mah? Really?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
Thanks for the suggestion, i will try cpu-z.

The camera comes up as a 19.something (just say 20) megapixel. But this is interpolated or interlaced, so its actually a 13 megapixel camera. I must say the low light shots are quite good, however they have a fair bit of noise. The camera has good detail. (I think that the front is an 8 megapixel.

To me however, it looks like the front camera had gotten worse after the update, as the images are much darker than when it was on v3.01 (however this should be improved in an update). I am happy with the rear camera quality (its not chart topping quality like you are made to assume by the advert). I was happy with the front camera before the update, (it has good quality but is now too dark).
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] clubvibe:
Since recovery is now available. I was wondering if someone already has installed MIUI Rom? I see it's not multilingual version. That's ok for me. I'm interested in battery life and the availability of function umi zero had in stock Rom. Like flip to silent. I hope someone could do a little comparision between the 2 roms.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
only 1000mAh!!!

Has anyone got an idea why cpu-z (a reliable piece of software) has listed the battery capacity at only 1000mAh? If it didnt know, would it not just say 'unknown'?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] JankyLV:
It could be a glitch in the cpu-z itself.

I believe it might have something to do with mediatek, but I may be wrong :)

I have an HDC phone right now, just installed cpu-z, and it shows 1000mAh, even though it's 2280.

There's a topic on miui about showing wrong capacity for redmi s1. http://en.miui.com/thread-64570-1-1.html

Conclusion: we should trust UMI, and not cpu-z.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] mirchichamu:
CPZ is notorious for giving wrong battery and sometimes other wrong information. Many people have complained through feedback in playstore.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Tarnak:
Again, don't relay on such tools. There is possibility to prepare framework to show what you want (read about xiaomi fakes), like 3GB etc.

About camera, it's very good. Hard to say, is so good as advertised but... on my previous Desire Z on stocked ROM I had good quality pictures but after flashing few non-stock roms, pictures were bad. I was surprised, that software/drivers can make such difference!

So, maybe they'll fix/update camera software. To be honest, I'm very happy with camera, especially after 3.02.

Now the interpolation, don't use it, there is nothing positive when using it, with exception of bigger file :)

If you want simulate interpolation, simply make 13mpix photo and resize it on pc, that how it works. When you resize pictures you add noises and distortions.

Interpolation was used to make fakes camera matrix (8mpix ->13mpix), so vendors could say "We had 13mpix not crappy 8mpix".

Btw.

I've much better radio signal quality than on my desire Z. On cellar I lost signal, here is stable 70%. GPS is working perfectly, tested on Sygic on 15km route.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] mirchichamu:
What you say about your battery life ? As people are complaining about battery. And backlight of hardware buttons? Thanks.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] mucip999:
Okay right now im really considering on buying this phone, do you really recommend this phone? Because right now im borrowing my fathers phone and i want my own smartphone. If this thing is getting a lollipop or even a stable rooted rom, ill get one
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Hi I'm Suhkoi:
Get this phone or a used Htc One M7?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
I would recommend this phone. :) rate it 8/10 overall :good:

The soft key backlight is about half the brighness compared to the galaxy s3, its not that bright but it does the job. The more difficult part is pressing the soft keys (they could do with being a bit more sensitive), also since the phone looks so sleek, it takes some time to get used to their position.

The signal quality seem fantastic, get more signal than my s3 and an lg g2.

So you guys think that its a bug in cpu z, i guess i shoulnt trust software too much then.

i may have given people the wrong idea about the front camera, its by no means bad, it just could be better (as i said it was before the update).

Any idea when the next update will become available?

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I wouldnt go for the htc, this phone has a better, bigger screen, and is more powerful and is slimmer. Once the firmware is final then it should have no real issues. The cameras can compete with the htc too. But i think the htc can go upto 42mb/s hsdpa and supports lte, and the umi can go 21mb/s hsdpa so the internet on the htc would be faster (correct me if i am wrong though).
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] elkosith:
Naah, it's not that reliable. I just bought a fake MI4 and almost every info in CPUZ shows that it's an original. CPU type and speed, GPU, screen resolution, RAM amount, all are shown just like MI4's specs. But in reality, it's just a MTK6582 phone with mali gpu, 1280x720 res, and 1 GB of RAM. Even CPU Z read that this phone has all kinds of sensors even though the hardware are not there.

About the battery, I saw it on 3 different phones (ZTE N986, Lenovo S650, and this fake MI4), all shown 1000 mAh
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Tarnak:
I like HTC, imo the best quality phones ever. I've looked at specs of it, I think it has more features than Zero.

If M7 has good screen, similar to amoled I would take M7. Snap 600 + adreno 320 are very good combo, better than 6592T + mali 450.

From other way, if I'll have a choice to make another buy I would take again UMI Zero :D

Backlight of buttons are poorly highlighted but are still usable in this way. Simply, isn't so bright. I've turned it as 'always on' in GravityBox because I had problem to tap on designated area. Phone is quite wide with only 3 soft buttons ;)

Battery... Actually I've reached my monthly limit of mobile data, so it's OFF. Now I feel like the battery could stand for 2 days of normal usage including occasional gaming. Seems the mobile data traffic drains a lot of it. I'll try smart radio feature, later.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] mucip999:
Ive already placed an order on aliexpress! Hope everything went well. Oh yea what about the vibration? Feels good or cheap?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Papa666:
Cheap... :( But the Phone is THIN! More can´t comming... ;)
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
I would say that its more powerful than htc one (in terms of benchmarks anyway), it beats htc one m7 by quite a margin. But since thats benchmarks, it may not fully reflect real world performance. I know that the htc one has a more fluid experience (likely due to optimisations). My umi zero got 32,700 which i am impressed with :D

The vibration feels cheap, i have owned a few chinese phones and it seems all of them use the same low frequency vibration motors. They feel weak, and as if they take time to speed up. Euro smartphones give a quick, sharp vibraton. The chinese ones still get the job done. though.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] kariolmax:
Is this photo of original soft from UMI or is it any custom rom or UI??

(umi fanpage - lasto post) I can't post image link :/
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Tarnak:
Yes, in general MTK chips are antutu centric, real system usage plus onchip built-in features are still Snap strength.

Adreno is well balanced with CPU.

http://www.mobiledroid.co.uk/blog/china-phone-chipsets-compared-mediatek-vs-qualcomm-vs-rest/

But still, 6592T for me is a beast even with enabled power saving option. :D

True power of 8 cores will be unleashed after better Android system optimization.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
I was originally looking for a cheap mt6595 phone, but since its only just been released the phones are a bit expensive, so i went a model down mt6592T and just saw the umi. It seemed too good to be true at the price, but now that i have it (after 3 weeks of waiting with dhl express delivery) i am amazed at what you get. But i still want the mt6595 though. That has power on another level :D
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] mucip999:
3 weaks with DHL? Where did you ordered it? Ive ordered from aliexpress with dhl shipping.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
I ordered from comebuy.com for $200 and $15 extra for shipping. They took 3 or 4 days to dispatch it. And it was to take 7-10 working days to arrive.... it took 9 working days. So 3 weeks after ordering it i had an umi zero :D

The only issue i had was that i found out after ordering that there was a recall of faulty units and my phone had been dispatched. I was worried. My phone seems to be a batch 1, since the second batch is the one which is being sent now. The second batch should be more reliable since they supposedly tested them more.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] PabxH:
So I ran into the MIUI V5 ROM in http://www.needrom.com/download/umi-zero-miui-v5/

There is one guy who actually installed this ROM. You need the CWM recovery , cukisan posted a working CWM in this thread.

The recovery is here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=57814657&postcount=315

I quote the user who installed it:

"I'm testing this rom, but it seems that it is not a multilang, only cn/en."

AND HE ALSO WROTE:

"At the moment it seems fliud and stable.

The UI is more nice than the stock one.

Anyway it has the same problems of manyl the roms that are coming from china.

When you do some setup it easy to get some chinese pages.

There are also some chinese app to remove

About SuperSU you have to update it via CWM

At the end if you don't want to spend time for install this rom you can stay wiith the 3.02

This is ny first mpression after few hours"
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] cukisan:
Umi developers say that the version 3.0.2 is actually an official firmware but under development and not to install it. Will release an update in January. Hopefully soon ... I think the Zero has a lot of potential to put affixed.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
Thats good news, thanks for the info.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] mucip999:
Thats great to hear! Might as well an update to Lollipop too
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] PabxH:
1st quarter of 2015.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] JankyLV:
If antelife doesn't fix the problem with my order - I will soon have a very interesting story to tell about purchasing anything from them..
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] MiguelferraZ:
I ordered mine from antelife too on 12 December, and I'm still waiting :(
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] mucip999:
What shipping courier you choose? Is the phone still processing or already in transit?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] MiguelferraZ:
I ordered from antelife Spain warehouse, and the phone is still processing. They say that I have to wait a bit more (I think is due to some customs problems)... I hope they ship it soon
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] elkosith:
I ordered 2 units from aliexpress on dec 24th, not yet dispatched until now. Asked the seller on dec 30th, she said she's going to ship the phone as soon as possible, no certain date.

I hope the delay is due to optimization and bugs fixing.

BTW, umidigi.com is down.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] mucip999:
From what seller did you bought it from?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] elkosith:
MICHELLE TRADING CO., LIMOTED (it's their typo, not mine)

I bought them during their 3000 units promotion that was bundled with the flip case.

EDIT: umidigi.com is up and running again
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
I think its best to buy using one of the recommended sellers, and buy with the express delivery option (it costs more but its worth the money). Also make sure to use paypal when buying as that way you get buyer protection, so you can get your money back if it doesnt come. I have noticed that these websites have poor aftersales support.

Also what happens if it does become faulty? Who do you contact, these selling websites would never reply to you. ITS DIFFICULT TO GET A REPLY EVEN IF ITS JUST A QUESTION!!!:(

Will umi deal with warranty directly? How did s7yler manage to get hold of a replacement rear housing, there must be some sort of aftersales support somewhere :confused:
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] shanaian:
Hm....

I can't say that i'm very satisfied with this phone, yes it heats quickly, but my bigger concerne is that it's seems that my mic or something is not working as it should be, talker on the other phone hears some wired noises when i say something you can here tk-tk, every time, and you can here some kind of hum, i did noise cancellation, and put 3.02, i think that this is some kind of hardware issue, and what now send it back from croatia to singapore, nooooooooooo, what to do?? Any ideas??
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] 06ashiqs:
Wait for the next update and just hope that it sorts it out. The next update should be out this month.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] shanaian:
And now is working, i don't know how, but now it's normal
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Th1j513:
I ordered 24 december on FocalPrice and paid the 8 dollars for the express delivery. It arrived the 31th (in the Netherlands), so I defenitly recommend buying it there. The looks and screen of the phone are gorgeous, definetly not regretting it. It's true that the first 10% of the battery life are draining pretty fast, but after a day the battery level still remains around 40-50% with normal use (like 30mins playing a game and checking messages and facebook around the day).

Are there any other Dutch users of this phone here? I can't seem to download the apps 9292ov and NSreisplanner (which are both official Public Transport apps) in the Google Play store. I get the message that the phone isn't compatible, which is weird because the only requirement for the app is using Android 2.2 or higher. Anybody else with the same (kind of) problem?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] mesang:
Yup, same problem here. Had the phone for some days now but after reading your post I have noticed the same problem. Though I avoid Dutch public transport like Rabbits avoid bear traps I thought I take a look to see if I can replicate your problem. Seems that there is some issue with compatibility.

The phone has been great though I found some really big issues with it. Screen is awesome just like build quality, though I have a defective light behind the home button as well as some regular reboots (2 - 3 per day) and I can't seem to really make decent calls. They have the tension to drop after 20-30 seconds where the other side can't hear me anymore and I have to call again. It's not a simcard or network related issue (hence, I work for the network company) so the phone does seem to have it's child-diseases.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Tarnak:
You are on 3.01 or 3.02? At least try custom miui 5 from needrom, maybe it'll be more stable than this. Luckily I've never had any reboot or slowdowns but I know other person who received his Zero few days ago and had 2 reboots per day but his phone was on 3.01 which was faulty.

About compatibility issues, I've problem with polish allegro, GP says not compatible.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] mesang:
I'm on 3.01 as UMi stated that the 3.02 rom is purely for reviewing purposes and not for normal use. We have to wait for the official release of that rom. I don't want to use custom roms as the phone has to be good with their supplied rom. ;)
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Tarnak:
I must say, that you've strong will. I couldn't stand to fix issues if I'll have a chance :D
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Jeffylaw:
Hope rooting will not be difficult cos most umi products are difficult to root.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] JankyLV:
Found this on their Facebook page

So I guess as they don't have a lot of their own stuff on it - they don't care what you do with the software :)
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Jeffylaw:
Why can't rooting software like vroot do it? Downloading their software will cost a lot of data.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] JankyLV:
That will probably be an option, if the vroot supports MT6592T.

It really seems that UMI are working on finding the best rooting solution.

btw s7yler - you have any news on cases for the phone? Are there going to be any available, and if there are - are they going to support smart view?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Jeffylaw:
I think smart view is supported
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] JankyLV:
I would like to think so too, but I haven't seen any cases for it.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] JankyLV:
Another question - is there support for the knock code like in LG G3?

I usually have my phone on the table, and it would be a great option to just knock on the screen twice to check for updates.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoealandy:
there is another giveaway in UMI offcial Facebook for UMI Zero, amazing, hope it's true?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoealandy:
yes, Zero support Knock code, just twice, like G3, got more news from official site.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] JankyLV:
source?
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] s7yler:
I have just successfully flashed the UMIZERO.V3.01 firmware on mine. There are some new features - but nothing to talk about really, but no knock code as far as I can see. But UMI are of course still working on the firmware, so we don't know for sure yet.

One thing I did notice is that the camera, now uses aperture f/1.8, on my first firmware it was only f/2.2. So that's a good improvement. And it now also have some Power Saving and Ultra Power Saving settings.

If anyone want the firmware, it can be downloaded from my page here http://s7yler.blogspot.de/2014/10/umi-zero-special-offer-for-fans-pre.html

I have mirrored the files on mediafire instead, because the original files were on pan.baidu.com, and slow as hell.

I have updated post #1 with new Sample Pictures now from the camera. They are with aperture f/1.8.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] xytkhi:
the umi zero have a FM radio ?

thanks for the review (:
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] s7yler:
With the latest firmware, the phone comes pre-rooted.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] s7yler:
no problem :)
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Jeffylaw:
When is this phone going to be released? Just can't wait...
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] JankyLV:
I've got bad new for you..

I already ordered and paid for it on November 3rd. At first seller told me they will ship very soon, but as they didn't change the order status to "shipped", I started asking around.

Latest news I got today - the seller will have the phones only on November 20th (If UMI don't push the date even further).

I really don't know why they would do all this advertising and pre-selling, if they don't have the items ready. It's seriously taking them too long.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Jeffylaw:
Too bad... I'll have to look some where for now cos they might still push to another date...
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] lepi991:
I asked one seller from China on Aliexpress and he said that when i pay for phone he will send phone in 5 days..

Is that possible? Seller have good rating
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] JankyLV:
I seriously doubt so, because UMI haven't released the phone yet. Maybe the seller has some test samples laying around..

Post from UMI:

UmiOfficial

17 hours ago

Hey guys, we will announce the official UMI ZERO release date and which online shop you can buy in next week!!! Keep posted!!!

#UmiZero #ReleaseDate
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] lepi991:
I know that and that is why i am so suspicious..

This is answer from seller:

Andy Lau: hi,yes,ours are original umi zero, after the payment,we will ship you in 5 days

And this is link od phone, is it okay to put link?

http://m.aliexpress.com/item/322272...227244161&tracelog=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Zoeriva:
[MENTION=6280594]Th1j513[/MENTION], i also have a Umi Zero and have the same problems with app. " even schade melden " from centraal beheer! Not compatible....and my wifi drops from time to time. I have to close wifi and startup the wifi again.
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] :
They have a terrible reputation: http://www.resellerratings.com/store/FocalPrice
[UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion] Th1j513:
Never had any trouble with them. This isn't the first time I bought something there, although this is the most expensive purchase. But that's just my experience with them!

Yeah my WiFi drops also from time to time. But that's just with one connection. When I'm visiting my parents there is no trouble with the drops. Weird...:confused: