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[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mackowiakp:
OK. So question. I have 910C with stock 5.1.1 installed via ODIN and TWRP. Can I install :http://www.mediafire.com/download/ag...ck_to_root.zip kernel on my SM-N910C ?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] compunerd3:
Not sure. If it doesn't work you more than likely will have a bootloop so just back up before you try.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mackowiakp:
Does not work for me. No bootloop but no root too ;-(
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxsprout:
[MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] I'm sorry... but would you like to update the root method to the latest 5.1.1 build for all models (N910S specifically :p)
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] high king:
[MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] please help us with this request root for retail dev sm-n910v kk
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaggyskunk:
I'm sure that people who are wanting Root for their devices are very eager - But looking back over many pages and posts..... I don't know - But I'm pretty sure that you're not helping your cause... Maybe take a step back - And think about how Chainfire is likely to feel about the steady stream of requests...

If you guys are prepared to flash a custom rom (if available for your device) - You can flash TWRP (again if available for your device) - Flash TWRP img.tar with Odin - Nandroid the stock Rom - Flash a Custom Rom - This will give you Root.

Sent From my SM-N910W8 Running SlimRemix v4.2
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cardiak1:
CF-Auto-Root-trlte-trltexx-smn910f.zip is not working for me.

I have previously used CF auto route with great success. I have attached PDF files of my note 4 device data. I have followed the instructions explicitly numerous times. I have Knox disabled on the phone, USB debugging is on, and it is connected as a media device. I had unrooted the phone using superSU professional.

When initially using Oden 3.07 I get: ID: 0/004> fail (auth). Once auto reboot is removed, I get <OSM> all threads completed.

The phone indicates: secure check fail: recovery and custom binary (recovery) blocked by b/l.

Using manual recovery boot I get: DM – verification failed in recovery.

I have even tried are different program called Kingroot, which was also unable to gain root access.

Has anyone else experienced similar issues or have suggestions as to what to try next? It appears to me that the problem lies in a new boot loader lock.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaggyskunk:
Sounds like you didn't turn the Reactivation Lock off - Settings - Security in TW.

Sent From my SM-N910W8 Running SlimRemix v4.2
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cardiak1:
odin3 passed. dm-verification failed

Now in boot loop
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] contramundi:
For n910c users there are 5.1.1 kernels in the exynos development thread which enable root
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaggyskunk:
boot into stock recovery and Factory Reset.

Sent From my SM-N910W8 Running SlimRemix v4.3
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cardiak1:
I was trying to avoid that.

I'll try some other tactics first.

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mackowiakp:
Any link ? ?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cardiak1:
Able to get out of boot loop but still cannot root

I re-downloaded the firmware update using Kies 3. This got me back to an unrooted phone with all my programs intact.

I confirmed all settings and followed the routing instructions explicitly. Oden 3 passed, as per attachment. Phone screenshot is also attached prior to reboot. I got the same DM-verity verification failed result and bootloop again.

Any oyher suggestions?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loekis:
I'm not really an expert, but I think that after rooting CF-Autoroot restores stock kernel which in fact is still old 5.0.1 - Kernel. I didn't even try with 5.1.1-ROM because there was no evidence it would work. And as I use different kernels there was no need to flash back stock kernel.

Here is what I did:

- flashed TWRP-Recovery with odin

- booted to recovery

- TWRP asked if phone should get rooted (=of course, YES)

- Rebooting,... bootloop.

- Rebooting to recovery (nice to be able to take out the battery, btw...)

- flashed permissive Kernel (AEL to start, later Emotion)

- rebooted with success

Frankly I don't believe there is a way to root stock kernel of 5.1.1 - but I'm really not an expert, just a little flashaholic....
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cardiak1:
I believe you are right

I see mackowiakp has tried using the Kernel_5.1.1_stock_to_root.zip without apparent success.

I will just have to wait. I just wish that I had waited to do the 5.1.1 update!
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SavanTorian:
CF autoroot WILL NOT! work with 5.1.1 kernels yet.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mackowiakp:
Question. At this moment I use 910C with Stock 5.1.1 installed via Odin. Additionally I installed TWRP. Of course I am waiting for CF-root dedicated to N910C ver 5.1.1. But, if such CF-root will be available, does installation of such CF-root will revert recovery to original one or it leave TWRP untouched?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andreasy:
I'm a bit confused now. I just got my 910C and it currently has 5.0.1 but 5.1.1 is ready to flush but I still hold until I'm sure. What I'm interested is in flashing custom recovery, ROM and kernel. Do I need CF-Auto root or can I just flash TWRP straight from odin and then a ROM like I did with my S4?

Also, does it matter if I first flash 5.1.1 and later decide to flash custom ROM?

(Sorry for confusion but I'm just trying to relate to how my S3 and S4 work and think that maybe I get something wrong from what I read)
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cardiak1:
You are correct.

The lesson that I have learned is not to take an update download unless I have verified that there is a root solution for it first.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donalgodon:
Is Chainfire still active?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cardiak1:
One of the Post said that he was away for the summer. Is he the only one with expertise?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donalgodon:
Well, he's the best at offering root, IMO, on multiple Samsung devices. I'd happily PAY for CF-Auto-Root if it were possible.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cardiak1:
I agree and have contributed to him!
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madmojo:
Thanks for good work. Beer is on the way (donations)...
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gosch2912:
Hi ,

after I did this steps my phone is trapped in a boot loop. What should I do now?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jay_m3:
reflash or simply rest from recovery
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gosch2912:
You mean VolUp+HOME+PWR

and then factory reset? ( Sorry I rootet my last Phone over 1 year ago ;) )

Then its still rooted? Then Try Again?

Thx for anwering so quick :)

[IMG="My Options"]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8uiyN9HW6KXUk1wYllrWWVCOXNwcTZPb0QxamRWQlNJcGZn/view?usp=sharing[/IMG]
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ciddy:
No. You can restore your last recovery (which should be the last flashed version [unrooted]). Or reflash the current ROM (5.1.1). This will get you out of the boot loop and back into a working (unrooted) ROM with all your stuff installed. You'd have to go back/downgrade to 5.0.1 to reroot(not sure if that's possible). If you do a factory reset from Recovery/Bootloader you loose all your software.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyesofice:
I would gladly pay him for a perm. Root on my sm n910a
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mackowiakp:
+1
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaggyskunk:
Chainfire has posted this comment regarding Locked Bootloader devices - Several times

"I expect the*ATT*and*Verizonmodels to have a locked bootloader, and if that is the case there will be no*CF-Auto-Root*for these models."

As far as I know - Chainfire hasn't changed his stance on CF Auto Root for devices with Locked Bootloaders...

As for - "I would gladly pay him for a permanent Root" for the Verizon and AT&T S6 as of March 2015 there was a Bounty in excess of $15,000 - Still no CF-Auto-Root...

So wouldn't it just make more sense to just get a Device that doesn't have a Locked bootloader??

Sent From my SM-N910W8 Running SlimRemix v4.4
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mackowiakp:
My 910C was bought just in shop, not from Mobile service provider and it has no locked bootloader.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaggyskunk:
I was actually replying to the previous poster - but since you "+1" his post about an AT&T device with a locked bootloader - I would have thought that you were in the same situation...

Sent From my SM-N910W8 Running SlimRemix v4.4
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cgbb13:
sorry for my question, is this CF Autoroot for android 5.1.1?

i have n910f with 5.1.1 as stock rom
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loekis:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=62864294

No
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mackowiakp:
As far as I know - no :(
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Battlehero:
If you want to root download this kernel and this SuperSU.zip

Then copy it to your internal storage and boot to recovery. Then flash the kernel and the SuperSU file and have fun :)

But please make sure you have a back up of your current ROM.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cgbb13:
thank you very much for guiding me. But you mean backup ( so im very confused) with TWRP or something special? im sorry cos i have lack of Knowledges on the mobile technology
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Battlehero:
I mean backup your current ROM in TWRP just in case it doesn't boot.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evrod20:
Why should root my phone? Please, if someone is kind enough to provide me with some advantages and why not, disavantages of rooting my phone. I'm not into custom roms, I like to run my device with stock roms (better interfaces for my taste), so if there are other stuffs I can do once I root my phone and can help me to make my mind.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dynospectrum:
Been awhile, but it is time to bring it out again.

https://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evrod20:
Wow! Thank you so much! Appreciate your time.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mackowiakp:
Is this kernel dedicated for 910F only? I use 910C - so my question.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Battlehero:
Yes it's only for N910F.

You could try this kernel instead for N910C:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3206548
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] parisien99:
Hello.

Is this root working with android 5.1.1 on n910F ?

Thank you
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jrubenc:
Read 9 posts back.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cardiak1:
This works great just as he said. Follow his instructions.

Use TWRP to flash. If you don't have it installed. Use Odin to install.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s2s2s2s2:
Philz Clockwork Mod works wonders too as an alternative to TWRP and has flashed fine with stock rooted sm-n910s 5.01 firmware. I'm guessing the upgrade will be compatible.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] equlizer:
Anything for W8 COI4 yet? Thx :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidatar:
Still no permanent root for N910v?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sefrcoko:
You can use the previous cf-root for n910w8. It works fine on our new 5.1.1 firmware, but you must be on a custom kernel before rooting because stock kernel seems to bootloop once rooted on 5.1.1 (increased knox protection I believe).
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] justvalencia:
Is this a permanent root for n910 c?

OT: how do i know if my note 4 is bootloader locked or unlocked? i'm worried that i might brick my device.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaggyskunk:
If you're with AT&T or Verizon - The bootloader is locked (except for Developer Editions).

Sent From my SM-N910W8 Running SlimRemix V5.0
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] justvalencia:
I'm not. I'm from PH and i bought my sim from a retail store. So it is not carrier lock. But is that enough

to say my device is not bootloader lock? cause that might be the case in US or your country and it might

be different from here
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaggyskunk:
As far as I know - The bootloader hasn't ever been locked in the Philippines - SIM unlocked has nothing to do with the bootloader

Sent From my SM-N910W8 Running SlimRemix V5.0
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] justvalencia:
Ok, thank you for the reply. :good: But without proper source i'll still wait for someone who knows how to confirm

if my note 4 has a locked bootloader or not.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bogdan_wrc:
this root works for 910C on 5.1.1 COI4 or just for 5.0.1.?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Muhammad:
Yet there is no root for the 910c on 5.1.1
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pchaokiat:
For root N910C you need custom kernel or custom rom.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaywiseman:
which kernel do you reccomend for the 910w8?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sefrcoko:
If you're running stock rooted COI4 firmware, then you can try the COI4 modded stock kernel built as per chainfire's trick (you need supersu 2.50+ installed first though): http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=58717752

The modded kernel works great on stock 5.1.1 but seems to force close the camera when used in combination with 5.1.1 custom roms on our N910W8. If that happens then I would just use a custom 5.1.1 kernel like Emotion: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=57886425
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaywiseman:
I did happen to fond your kernel after I posted that. Works great on 5.1.1 Bell stock and supersu 2.52 beta. No force close on camera. Rooted perfectly! Thanks so much. Now just need xposed to work on stock Rom and I am set!
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dpoverlord:
Was this ever able to be worked with the Verizon note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Solveira:
Hi, i tried to root, but a red android logo appears and the phone now is allways atempting to reboot. I m using windows 10. How can i unroot or complete the rooting process?

Thank you
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bryanstevecl:
That, my friend, is what we call a bootloop... What versión of Android do you have? CF-AutoRoot only works with KitKat and Lollipop 5.0.1. If you want to have root on Android 5.1.1 you need to flash a Custom Kernel.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Solveira:
I have 5.1.1. Where i can find the kernel? Tahnk you
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mackowiakp:
Here:

http://xdaforums.com/note-4/development/n910c-kernel-5-1-1-stock-tw-permissive-t3206548
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] misulik79:
In this link kernel for 910C/H and what about 910F ? Thank you
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mackowiakp:
I use 910C so I never look for 910F
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yahyoo:
How about

Note 4 N910C (5.1.1 Official ROM , Poland )???

which one should i Flash ???
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RedHabanero:
"Recovery is not seandroid enforcing"

Hi guys,

I'm in need of some help. I tried to root my Note 4 (stock) for the first time. Followed the instruction to the letter (checked model, android ver. etc.), but got "recovery is not seandroid enforcing" error with reboots every 5 sec after PASS! in Odin.

Already tried:

- the whole process again, several times

- the whole process again with Auto Reboot off, several times. When try to enter recovery mode manually, it is the same as in Odin's auto reboot mode

Can't enter recovery mode as "recovery is not seandroid enforcing" appears and rebooting starts... I can enter download mode and if I press Vol down instead up as I would to enter download mode, I get "recovery is not seandroid enforcing" again, reboots...

Please help! :)

RH

________________

Solved the problem by installing twrp and supersu..
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toterkeks:
as it says on the page of CF-Root:

"CF-AUTO-ROOT IS CURRENTLY NOT OPERATIONAL FOR ANDROID 6.0+, OR SAMSUNG ON ANDROID 5.1+"

so that could be one issue.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AMoosa:
There's a wanam version which works just fine on note 5.1.1.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carlinho77:
How to root last fw COJ3?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dedzdedz:
Hey quick question, will cf auto root 5.0.1 work on 5.1.1?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Slurpino:
No.. u need kernel permissive... but it not working with coj3 I think

SM-N910F Kyubi ROM 3.1 Porting Note 5
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dedzdedz:
Cheers i already found another method to root 5.1.1 ;)

Sent from my non rooted SM-N910F

32GB Samsung SDcard

Spigen silver tough Armor

Ex Smart Ultra 6 (1 month)

Ex Note 2 N7100

Ex note 2 N7105

Ex a whole lot of androids
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dancrow:
Be so kind and share it with us
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dedzdedz:
I do not know if i should do this here, still here it goes, i found this on youtube-----------»»»»»»» https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpsGX_Xoxcg
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dancrow:
It's the kernel permissive method. Did anyone tried on latest firmware

COJ3?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] P0PETIN:
Does this work on 5.1.1?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AMoosa:
I've only just seen this video but I did the same method on J3 last week except I used CF-autoroot and an insecure kernel and it worked fine.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] P0PETIN:
I used another method where you have to flash recovery and then quickly enter recovery because if not the phone will flash the sock image but after you are in recovery you have to flash a kernel (Pretty nice) and then flash SuperSU
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AMoosa:
Yes that amounts to the same thing. The phone goes into a bootloop so if you miss entering recovery, you can just press down vol and home and it will enter recovery on the next bootloop.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demize!:
Sorry if this has been answered, couldn't find it. Can you do this on mac using jodin?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] a_ya7ya:
what is the easiest way to root N910F COJ3( the device never been rooted before).

I found some ways but I don't know which one
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vinandy:
Hi,

The recent build for Note 4 (LRX22C.N910GDTU1BOJ4) 5.0.1 is unrootable with existing method posted in the main post. Pleas guide on how to root in current state.

Thanks.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] strifej:
N910C: I'm on COH4 and just saw the update to COJ5 (got the update in Hong Kong, didn't get it in China). Is it fine to update to newest? I plan to root after I get a hardware issue fixed through warranty. Thx
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Muhammad:
For the first question yes it's fine.

Didn't get what do you mean for the second q?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] black.rose1370:
Why CF-ROOT doesn't develop for 5.1.1 ROMs?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Muhammad:
I think developers are working on a root for Marshmallow to save time
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaggyskunk:
Some devices - ie: Samsung Galaxy Note 5 require a kernel in order to Root - The previously conventional methods are not currently working.

Sent From my SM-N910W8 Running SlimRemix V5.3
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ignition75:
SM-N910G, this procedure has soft bricked my phone. I'm on 5.1.1.

I've tried to go back to stock rom however it's hanging on initial boot.

Has anyone got a tar file of Dr K's kernel so I can flash it in Odin please?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaggyskunk:
Have you tried a Factory Reset - That should fix it...

Sent From My SM-N910W8 Running SlimRemix V5.3
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ignition75:
People keep telling me to factory reset, how can I do that when all I'm able to get into is stock recovery?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaggyskunk:
Is TWRP available for your device? If it is - Flash TWRP img.tar with Odin - Nandroid the stock ROM - TWRP should / might ask you if you want to install SuperSU - If it does - Say - Yes - Reboot into TWRP Factory Reset - Of course this is IF TWRP is available for your device..

Do you know the Full model name of your device - Which Country and Carrier?

Sent From My SM-N910W8 Running SlimRemix V5.3
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ignition75:
Every time I try to flash recovery I get boot loops, this is how the process started.

I'm stuck in stock recovery unable to flash a stock rom unable to flash a custom recovery

Please read this:

Why a custom kernel will probably be needed to root ?

answered by the master: http://www.androidauthority.com/chai...llipop-541458/

New selinux restrictions make it quiet hard for the su daemon to load at boot without exploiting some kernel vulnerabilities that google will patch asap any way.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaggyskunk:
Have a look at this link:

http://xdaforums.com/note-4/general/rooting-n910g-easy-t3216806

Yeah I'm aware that the Stock Samsung 5.1.1 does more than likely require a custom kernel in order to Root.... Almost 3am here - So I may have missed some of your information the first time that I read your post... But the posted link should help you out.

SM-N910G Australian Thread:

http://xdaforums.com/note-4/general/sm-n910g-lollipop-5-1-1-released-t3215823

Open in Browser ie: Chrome - The links may not be available in Tapatalk for some reason?

Sent From My SM-N910W8 Running SlimRemix V5.3
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ignition75:
You sir are a freakin legend...
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaggyskunk:
Thanks for the kind words - I always go to the wall for my Aussie Land friends ? Some of the Nicest people on the Planet!

Happy that it worked out for you.

Sent From My SM-N910W8 Running SlimRemix V5.3
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ignition75:
LoL I'm back to where I started. I'm about to dump this thing and fork out for a Note 5...

I've been in some hairy situations with my previous phones, 4am boot loops used to be a regularity, but I always managed to get out of them with a stock rom flash.

This I've never encountered before... Wont boot up properly after a stock rom flash, won't allow me to load a better recovery and I'm getting errors now when loading the permissive kernel for 5.1.1.

It's almost like they got the sticker wrong where it says "Model Number" hehe...
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaggyskunk:
You have Root now? You could try using Flashify to flash TWRP .img 2.8.7.0.

Look in the Development Threads and see if there's a TW based Custom Rom 5.1.1 for your device - It would likely solve all of your problems - Or if you're interested - You could look for an AOSP Rom 5.1.1 - You would lose some of the TW functionality - but most can be replaced with apps from the store - I'm running SlimRemix 5.1.1 AOSP and my Spen functions pretty damn close to a TW Rom - Google Fit for health and there's a bunch of other apps which do a very nice job. Battery and the Camera may not be quite as good - but still excellent.

Sent From My SM-N910W8 Running SlimRemix V5.3
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ignition75:
OMFG, I got into TWRP by holding the volume up key instead of the volume down key when powering on...

36 hours I've wasted!!!!