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[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Color shift is there and noticible on whites mostly and happens when you look from an angle and its not about pentile s3 or note 3 didnt have it. Like i said before note 2 and note 4 screens not even compareable. And note 2 doesnt realy have a good screen i never liked it eventhough i loved the phone, mostly i didnt like any amoled screen before note 4. This time colors are great brightness is awesome and whites are good too. There is a reason every reviewer just say its best display and when you look at it you can see the difference

speaker is great on note 4 which is the most useless part for me. I used htc one m7 too phone speakers just not my thing its waste of time.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] JCM800:
Don't spread false statements please. The speaker on the Note 4 is far from great. It's tinny /thin and painful at volume.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Can you try full sound on anything does it distort? Cuz every demo unit had it here and its a defect. my friend just gave his note 4 yesterday and samsung changed it.

And i said its great as phone speaker (not the best ofc) but i still dont like any phone speaker as an old htc one m7 user i didnt even use its speakers. Like i said at up phone speakers just waste of time.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
I don't really understand all the emphasis being put on the phone speaker. Do people really listen to a lot of stuff through the phone speaker?

The note 4 is fine for occasional listening but if I'm listening to music I'll use headphones or a Bluetooth speaker. No phone offers really decent sound quality through the speakers, at least not comparable to headphones. Admittedly the note 4 speaker is worse than some, but this has never been on the list of priorities for me. Fair enough if it is for you. Just seems a shame to give up on it for this reason alone.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] JCM800:
I tried a demo unit in carphone warehouse (in a heavy metal security holder) and it distorted badly,, was awful. But mine in hand, is just thin and shrill full volume. (I will say the earphone quality is excellent, no complaints there)

I do use the phone speaker - and I look out for it. When you do, you know good from bad.. damn you Samsung you should have used the Note 2 speaker, I'm fuggin annoyed with you.

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I have a Note 3, with Jet audio player it's really quite reasonable.

Jet audio can't even help the Note 4,,im keeping my 3.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SAVVAS.:
Hey [MENTION=4753467]JCM800[/MENTION] , please have a look at this video and tell me what do you think. I fully trust,beleive and respect the guy who made that video, and his opinion favours the Note 4 speaker both SQ and Volume from Note 3(Qualcomm). However, he has the Exynos variant so I don't know if Wolfson audio chip plays its role in speaker output quality or if the Exynos has a different speaker !

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[Galaxy Note 4 General] JCM800:
Link isn't working, but I've seen the video I think, I researched and ordered the 4 on that video. Well mines international, don't get me wrong in earphones I'm delighted with it..

External speaker has 'better fidelity'? Err, only because it's thinner. I did my own comparison between my 3 and 4 using Led Zeppelin 2 deluxe, and Jet audio set on classic 2 setting.

A common usage situation.. I could barely hear the bass on my Note 4..it was better on my Note 3 and fantastic on me Note 2.

Even audio notifications are shrill and harsh especially when turned up.

Sorry Samsung I'm voting with my wallet, I've lodged a complaint and mines going back tomorrow.

Gutted, because it's gorgeous otherwise. It's time Samsung paid attention to audio and not treat it like an afterthought.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] apprentice:
You should never completely judge a phone by the one in a store display, especially when you are considering lag. Think about it, firstly the phone has demo software running on it and various settings to stop customers trashing everything. Secondly when you see so many people handling the phone you never know exactly what's still running.

I have a lot of stuff installed on my Note 4, many are running in background processes. I swear there is absolutely no shutter lag.

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I tend to agree with you, the speaker is more likely used for notifications and ringtones, I'll use earbuds or a BT speaker for music. There are times though I would like a better speaker when I am watching a YouTube video for example.

But when you consider the price tag on this phone and it's flagship status you would expect at least stereo speakers or a better mono speaker. So yes my ONLY disappointment with this magnificent device is the speaker. It's not crap but it's not great either.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ars_92:
For me the speaker is worlds better than the note 3 but definitely worse than the note 2. I really don't think its bad at all. Its actually usable,unlike the note 3 one. Would love to have the note 2 speaker again lol. That thing actually had some good depth on the audio. Was very useful for YouTube videos. But the note 4 one is definitely usable since I've suffered with the note 3's speaker for a whole year lol
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
Does anybody know whether it's possible to enable exif info in gallery? On my note 3, there was information about shutter speed, iso etc. However this is missing in the note 4 - or am I missing something?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
From the gallery just pick any picture then go to settings by pressing the three dots on the top right corner , then more info. Is this what you are looking for?

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min 32:06 the keyboard layout is different than what I have. how did you get the tool bar to show on the top of the keyboard? it seems the version of your note 4 is different that mine because also in min 32:21 I dont see all those setting under the pen detection. I have the Canadian Note 4.

Samsung Galaxy Note 4: Unboxing & Review: http://youtu.be/J0N4Jd0Vm4E
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
Yeah, I'm doing that it's just the information is much more limited compared to previous phones I've had, note 2, note 3 etc.

As a workaround I've downloaded the Nexus gallery which gives me information such as iso, shutter speed etc.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] an_xda:
The Note 4 is a great device, however I am truly hating how much space the S-Finder/Quick Connect/brightness bar take up in the notification panel. I know rooting the phone will allow me to rid of these but I plan to keep it stock until the warranty expires... And no, do not ask why I am on these forums if I plan to stay stock... :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gavinfabl:
Just updated Note 4 review - now in 17 parts - https://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/2014/11/23/samsung-note-4-17-part-master-review/
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
Can you take a selfie with front camera in low light/night with stock camera settings?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
There's no night/stabilisation mode with the front camera, but the increased aperture means that there's slightly more chance of pictures coming out ok in darker conditions.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
It looks okay in low light. For selfie it is great :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
can you post an example pls :D ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] MSK1:
Do u have review of edge?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gavinfabl:
Yes. Not finished yet. Gets new parts most days. https://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/?s=Samsung+Note+edge
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
I believe this question could be answered by note 3 owners as well. Is there any way to manage the scrapbook on computer (kies) or Web?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alexcarterkarsus:
Not that I know of on my note 3, but it does sync across my note products (note 3 and note 10.1)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] _INSPIREed:
You have some really great info on the thread. kudos to you.

One thing I would like is once you really break the phone in,could you post battery stats describing your usage. Including screen on time, which is most important.

EDIT: deleted.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
GFXbenchmark and Geekbench ? :P
[Galaxy Note 4 General] androidman0225:
do you notice any heating issues. I had g3 and that screen made phone hot?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Super Chimp:
OP what's the camera performance like in low light?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Sure, will do in few days.

GFXbench you can find in some previous posts.

Geekbench: 1269 for single core, 4155 for multi core

In normal usage there is no heating. I have experienced heating only in games and while recording or playing 4k video.

Havent really test it good for now, but in few photos taken in low light it is good.

Not really great on people faces, they look like they are made of gum. Like they came out from photoshop.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Thank you :3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
Have you tested the word recognizing, like you handwriting something and it converts to editable text?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alexcarterkarsus:
According to Qualcomm 805 supports h.265 hardware decoding, not sure about exynos 5433 as information is scarce... could you please go to this website http://www.elecard.com/en/download/videos.html and download one of the 1080p or even 4k hevc videos and see if N4 can smoothly play it? Usually the stock video player will not play it, but you can use MX player to force it to play....

Thanks a lot!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pcman2000:
That's amazing. Moto X (fastest S801) gets 980/2926 and iPhone 6 gets 1626/2913.

I wonder if this will translate to real-world performance.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
Does note 4 has the lowest brightness mode like s5?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dabbill:
FYI to the guy asking about OIS in 4k. OIS is a hardware feature, it doesn't know or care what video / camera mode you are in for it to work.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowFlare:
According to Displaymate, Note 4 has the same Super low dim of 2cd/m2 as S5.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
The Exynos 5433 has a h.265 decoder too.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pcman2000:
Source?

Just interested in specs about the 5433, Samsung doesn't seem to have detailed information pages on their Exynos SoCs like Qualcomm has.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] senectus:
does it come with sketchbook for galaxy?

if so what version is it?

open sketchbook => click cog => click about => version number...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
I have tested and its great. It recognize everything.

1080p runs smoothly, but 4k has lag. I have tried 3rd video from that website and it was laggish. Maybe iz has to do something with video becuase 4k videos recorded with phone has no lag.

It has.

Could not find Sketcbook. Only scrapbook, S note and Quick memo for S pen.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
The 5430 alredy has it http://www.anandtech.com/show/8382/samsung-announces-exynos-5430-first-20nm-samsung-soc
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alexcarterkarsus:
I see, well, the 4K videos recorded by the phone is simply encoded in h.264, so it should have no problem playing it, but those videos from the website are encoded in h.265, unless hardware decoding is supported otherwise it will lag. I guess it is too early to ask for 4k hardware decoding of h.265, but at least in another thread it was shown that N4 can do 1080p Hi10p flawlessly, which is already very good news :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cosinav:
Sketchbook for galaxy is not preloaded but you can go to the galaxy app store and get it for free in the galaxy gift section.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] senectus:
*Phew* I thought for a min there that it wasnt being packaged anymore as a part of the phone...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
It is included in gift section.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pcman2000:
Does the S-Pen kickstand trick still work?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
Wow, never knew of this trick! Will have to give it a go with my N3..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Nope, could not get it to stand.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] daraj:
i guess thats a deal breaker :laugh:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] senectus:
how the hell did i not know this?!?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] raiu:
does towel root work?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] paulrgod:
Im not too sure if it works the same but the recents key is present on the S5 - and if you hold it down for a second will open the menu as if pressing the menu button.

Cheers

Paul
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Dont know. Havent tried it.

I know, but for me it is better like its on Note 3. Short press menu, long press recents.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alexcarterkarsus:
I am a bit worried about the gpu in exynos after seeing more and more benchmarks popping up, some even point it to be somehow weaker than adreno 330 in Note 3!!

So I am wondering, now after a few days of use, how do you feel about the general performance? Lag-free? By that my reference point is Note 3, you'd know what I mean if you also owned a Note 3...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] forsaken82:
any power button lag? that annoys the crap out of me on my note 2. how is the speaker? i use my phone as a alarm clock when traveling and need it to be loud.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nanisunil9:
Bro,the thing is,note series amoled always look better than their previous iterations(I'm talking about whites,but when looked beside best of lcds,they look yellow,so can u please compare it with htc one m7 or m8 or iphones and let us know if its white now(callibrated right) or still.has that yellow tint in it
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowFlare:
Take the resolution difference between Note 3 and Note 4 into consideration, Note 4 has to work extra hard to push 78% more pixels than Note 3. I played around with Note 4 in one of the Samsung Experience Stores, and everything was buttery smooth.

I wanted to see the video playback performance / quality, but none of them have any demo video like in the Tab S.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alexcarterkarsus:
I know, but the demo unit is not how we usually use our phones, and we usually load our phone choke-full of apps and run lots of things in the background( or even foreground!), so that's why I would like to know what an actual user thinks :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] equake:
I assume this is the Exynos version since that is the only one out. Anyone you know have the S5 LTE-A QHD version for comparison.

I'll wait until Android L OWIC to arrive and GS6 with the Snapdragon 810 next quarter b4 upgrading.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowFlare:
Probably still too early to tell, they need more time to play with their phones.

But for what it's worth, demo phones I was using had lots of apps running that I could see in the Task Manager. Of course people don't normally clear background apps on demo phones, but operation was still smooth. I even ran AnTuTu and got 47k with all those apps running still. It was a Snapdragon model.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
I was using Note 3 when it came out.

Note 4 experience is better. For now there is no lag. Only thing that takes few seconds to opet are recent apps. If you are watching movie for example it can take up to 3-4 seconds. That is kinda annoying. Except that I havent noticed anything. Even Touchwiz is fast and without lag for now. Will see in few days will it still be. It is know that after some time it gets laggy on previous Samsungs :D

There is no delay. Longest delay is probably 0,5 seconds and that is after phone was locked for some period of time.

Speaker is loud but on bad position. It is not loud like speakers on M7/M8 but it is still loud.

I have compared it with iPhone 5S and there is no yellow tint.

Compared it also with Note 3 and there was no yellow tint while on Note 3 it was.

I will compare it with M7/8 and with Nexus 5 also and post here.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alexcarterkarsus:
Well I actually don't doubt the snapdragon version would have any lag problem, I'm only concerned about the exynos version... case in point, the galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition, the gpu on that 5420 simply cannot push the WQHD pixels fast enough, aka, lag
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tiguy99:
Is the screen pentile or more like the note 2's RGB OLED screen?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
It is diamond pixel pentile, but at this level of ppi you won't see any difference.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] MisterKanister:
Good guy Note 4, auto-photoshopping our ugly faces so that we don't have to :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Jajaja
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ipmanwck:
For all those with build concern the gap is on most phones so the glass can fit between the frame it's nothing new just apple clutching at straws. This shows how rock solid the N4 is Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Endures the Gluteus Maximus: http://youtu.be/UrhCz6PnT78 proof is in the testing and Samsung really thought about the structural integrity of this one!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TechBSwift:
where is the geekbench scores
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tiguy99:
Just saw the note 4 up close....didn't see any gaps on the screen.

If you look at an S5 and compare how close the glass is to the LCD you'll have an idea of what to expect with the Note 4

Saw the screen today

Here's my impressions

LOVED my S2 but wished it had higher resolution.

S3 came out with higher res but pentile fuzz turned me off completely.

Each following device (besides the Note 2) had pentile and sorry guys but my eyes see it loud and clear. I couldn't get with it.

Then I saw the Note 4...surprisingly I can't see the pentile dots anymore.

I was shocked!!!

People said they couldn't see the pentile dots on the Note 3 when it first came out but after I saw the phone in person I was saddened I could see them and had to pass.

The Note 4 is different. Perhaps Samsung reached a level in PPI where you no longer see pentile dots...I don't know but they made them disappear with this phone

This one is different.

To Sum it up....

Its like the S5's screen (I could see the dots on the S5) but more sharper and without the pentile dots.

Hope this helps people who are shopping for this phone.

Go see for yourself and confirm whether or not you see the pentile dots.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BklynNetschamps:
Just came from Best Buy to check this bad boy out. Its pretty awesome, but the thing that bugs me is that there's still lag.... HOW the hell is this still an issue in a phone this powerful??? I was getting lag while doing the simplest things like scrolling in the app drawer, opening the camera app and opening up settings, opening recent apps, even opening apps still took more time than I get things going on my old iphone 4s... 1.5gbs of RAM is taken without any app open... Its perplexing, really..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] daraj:
its called touchwiz
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
Unused RAM = Wasted RAM
[Galaxy Note 4 General] aooga:
It's Samsung's horrible retail mode. It hogs resources beyond belief. It won't be as smooth as other phones with the 805, but you won't see that lag on the retail devices.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
Snapdragon version reaching 47k on Antutu is good news. Starting to like 805 more and more. Have anyone considered the next 5.9 Nexus?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Stigga:
I am torn between the note and nexus. For me the price of nexus will play a big part. Would like no carrier bloatware.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] railshot:
Nexus will not have external SD slot or removable battery. That's a deal breaker for many.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] barondebxl:
I tried to make the note lag when I checked it out at best buy but no lag at all. Not in the app drawer, nowhere.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
I could live without the removable battery if I needed to but no way will I give up the SD slot. If the Note 4 came with more internal memory maybe, but 32GB isn't enough. On "the daily note" he's shooting in 4k and it just eats up storage.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
I understand you, I can see the dots too.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Bruce lee roy:
I'm guessing you don't know anyone with nexus 5. Great phone but battery life is laughable compared to note. No fun having to walk around all day worrying about where your next charge is going to come from.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
5 hours of screen on time on Nexus 5 is not laughable. I own Nexus 5 so I know that.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Dont know what have you tested but I am not experiencing lag there. Only while opening recent apps as I said before.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
It probably depends a lot on the way the phone is used. I have a friend that owns a N5 and complains all the time about the battery.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Of course.

But lets not go in that way. Nexus 5 has smaller battery and should not be compared with Note 4.

So far I am loving Note 4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
Agreed. ☺

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Guys I'm trying to summarize good video reviews about Note 4 on this link.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2890225

Take a look and be welcome to contribute.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] MisterKanister:
How do you know that there will be no SD slot? Because it was always that way?

I'm sure hoping they'll add card slot this time, what's their f*cking point in always leaving that out for the Nexus?!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alexcarterkarsus:
I read from a chinese forum that N4 has a way to automatically "boost" the eligibility of the screen, which only works if the screen brightness is set to automatic

https://www.flickr.com/photos/40591572@N02/15403703856/

right is when brightness is fixed, left is automatic

although to me it is nothing but boosting the brightness so high under direct sunlight that the screen content remains visible...

so what do you think about the sunlight eligibility?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Hard to tell because I am in Europe and I havent seen sun for some time now, its raining constantly and weather is bad. :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alexcarterkarsus:
LOL

I think it is time for you to take a holiday in Sicily... with your phone :p
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Its not to far, just across the sea :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] skibadee:
If you are in a medium lit room and you try to snap a shot of a pet/child, does it lag like the note 3 so that by the time it's shot, your subject has moved and becomes a blurr?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
Changing subjects, I don't remember if you mentioned about the phone getting hot. Maybe that's why people got low scores on some tests? Could you do some benchs after playing games for like 15 minutes? :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Will try later with an adult person as I dont have a child or pet :D

I mentioned once. It is not getting hot, it gets little bit warm while recording 4K or watching 4k video and playing games. Only game I have tried is Beach buggy. First game I came across on Play store. Here is the benchmark after playing it for 15-20 minutes. Phone was warm, not hot.

I am not gamer so if you want I can try with some other game just tell me which one.

http://i.imgur.com/TMvfkMG.png

http://i.imgur.com/tOsGiYJ.png
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
At beach buggy can u change all settings to high(resolution max too) and check if it lags or not and u can try asphalt 8 on full graphics too
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
On Beach Buggy everything was on high settings except Shadows. If I set them on high game would crash instantly so they were on medium.

I am downloading Asphalt right now so I will report later. It has 1,56 GB wow :laugh:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Why it would crash? On my ipad air it doesnt make it laggy but anyway its great that it can run smooth on 2k screen it lags on nexus 5
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Dont know why. When I change from medium to high game freezes for few seconds and then it crashes and I got those pop up saying "Unfortunately, BB Racing has stopped".
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Ok ill try it on my htc one m7(downloading now) and report maybe its a bug still everything on high and its smooth is good for me im not a gamer either thx for trying and waiting for asphalt report:o