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[Other SmartWatches] Krazy-About-Tech Kiki:
Does Google Services Work

Ive heard that google services dont work about ZGPAX S8.

I want to know if its true

People say that google play and other google services dont work

Some one confirm:confused::confused::confused::confused:
[Other SmartWatches] Ishman:
The S8 works fine with the latest ROM. Goggle play, etc work and function properly. the old ROM had some problems. Most watches sold to the public the last several months have already be flashed with the newer ROM.
[Other SmartWatches] HaploVoss:
Well I haven't tried the new key combo that was just posted, so that would be much easier to just 'get it over with', but I also found another solution to get rid of the pin code lock screen if anyone else ever receives their "new" watch all locked up:

Go grab the Android SDK-> Install it -> Select and install "Platform Tools" - which will give you the ADB utility.

Open up a command prompt and you will find it in 'C:\Users\<your name here>\AppData\Local\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools\adb.exe'

So change directory to where it exists, plug your watch into USB cable and then the cable into your PC/Laptop.

Enter into command prompt:

adb devices

-> This should give you a device list with a bunch of numbers and 'device' indicating it sees your watch.

adb shell

-> this should actually connect you to the watch and dump you to a root prompt that looks like this:

root@s8:/ #

So now all you have to do is type in the following commands, a couple are optional:

cd data/system

ls *.key (if you want to see which files you have. Not really necessary, but I'm curious.)

rm *.key (removes/deletes password.key and/or gesture.key if they exist)

reboot

And you are done. Your watch will reboot and there will be no more password to unlock the screen. Fortunately both of the watches I received came with USB Debugging turned on, otherwise this would not work.

Oh yeah, The whole reason I dove into this? That second watch worked great for quite some time, but started acting flaky after I rooted it with Kingo. Not sure if it was something I, an app, or dumb luck did, but now the screen is just black, but 'on' and completely locked up. So I went back to the first one I got (glad I hadn't shipped it back yet) and unlocked it. Nice! :) Love this watch. Man o man is it nice. Hope this one holds up well, if these things are remotely sturdy it is a sweet buy.

Later!

- Hap
[Other SmartWatches] Krazy-About-Tech Kiki:
THANK YOU

Thanks For explaining . I was getting worried. I will definetly buy it now:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:good::good::good::good::good::good::good::victory::victory::victory::victory::victory::victory::victory:
[Other SmartWatches] sseng587:
Does anyone know how to switch the internal storage and sd card so that way the app can be installed? I already swapped my sd card to 32gb.
[Other SmartWatches] HaploVoss:
Don't know of any way to actually 'swap' the memory that Android uses for base memory, but just like any other phone, you should be able to install an app, then 'move to SD card' by just going to Application settings. That's what I've done and I still have plenty of space left if I need it. I'm not a huge app guy though so I don't know. Mainly a few utilities and some games. That's it for me.
[Other SmartWatches] asim.sidz:
This watch has a screen size of just 1.5 inch. Does it cause problem or hindrance in operating it? Is it better to buy a 2 inch size smart watch?
[Other SmartWatches] Kirrrr:
o_O

Which???
[Other SmartWatches] kyone2000:
I owned the 2" Z1 before the S8. The difference between that phone and the S8 is that the interface for the S8 is a lot better designed for small screens.

The biggest issue is the keyboard. I now use Google Now voice recognition for sending txt messages and I rarely surf the net on the S8.

The S8 keyboard touch interface is better than the Z1 but new versions of 2" screens may have better keyboard touch responses.
[Other SmartWatches] piechucki:
http://www.exideas.com/ME/downloadsAndroid.php
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
Earphone

Hello, how I can listening music with earphones if watch do not have jack plug?

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] piechucki:
BT
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
BT I know... but is not possible with a "normal" earphone?
[Other SmartWatches] piechucki:
Unfortunately, the lack of slots
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
some samrtphones have headsets that connect to USB port ... this will also work on S8? if it worked could connect with a USB / 3.5 adapter that exist on ebay!

this is my doubt!
[Other SmartWatches] piechucki:
It seems to me that I read somewhere (maybe in this thread) that it does not. But I'm not sure. Maybe someone else has some experience.
[Other SmartWatches] bernsbe:
I also seem to remember to have read it is not possible.

I own a Jabra BT3030. Its successor is the street2.

It is a small bleutooth headset with a microphone fitted in a main housing (a military tag like shape) that hangs from the neck and features large buttons. It features a regular 3.5mm jack where one could fit a regular headphone instead of the earplugs that are supplied with the device.

It's not the cheapest product however.

A product that does the same for a fraction of the price is teh EZMAX mini, and there are many others.

Before trying any of this, I would not anticipate in having a lot of music power output.

I could give the BT3030 a try if any of you would like me to do that.

(The main disadvantage of the BT3030 is that it does not provide bleutooth connectivity if it's charging. I don't know if that has been solved with the new street2.)
[Other SmartWatches] sukoshi:
firmware and hardware revision

Hello,

I just ordered the watch from banggood.

What is the latest firmware released as of today? Should i already expect to update the watch on its arrival?

Any other advice?

Thanks a lot !

I'm willing to create a tutorial for newcomers like me :)
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
Hello! Me too about 2 days! Good price, right?

When you receive tel me... I will same.

I'm from Portugal.

Regards
[Other SmartWatches] sukoshi:
That's definitely interesting :)

It should arrive within a few weeks.

Keep in touch, obrigado !
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
Look at this link... have micro USB earphone??

http://www.geekbuying.com/item/ZGPA...-4-4-OS-512MB-4GB-GPS-3G---Golden-336298.html
[Other SmartWatches] janek69:
New ZGPAX watches

ZGPAX S83

ZGPAX S82

ZGPAX S7
[Other SmartWatches] printsofwhales:
Possible battery life solution.

This may sound silly but it doesn't look silly if you wear a long-sleeved shirt.

Connect a USB cable to watch. Put watch on arm so USB connector points up arm. Now put on shirt (easiest way!). Attach cable to USB power bank. Place in pocket or attach to belt. Your shirt cuff will usually completely hide the watch connection. Even a small power bank can extend watch battery life by days.

Try it. If you think it looks silly is it any sillier than an earphone or headphone cable attached to your watch / phone? With T Shirts you can secure the cable to your arm with a couple of arm bands or rubber bands.
[Other SmartWatches] Mirk2182:
Has anyone been able to get usb in to work on this watch? I would like to use a usb game pad with it. The game pad I have works fine with my phone but doesn't with this watch. I know I could use bt but I am using this watch for a project and bt wouldn't work.
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
Somebody know where I can buy a mini power bank like this?

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/300mah-Mini-bank-power-external-battery_1867221619.html

I can't find on aliexpress, ebay, etc...

Very usefull for this watch!
[Other SmartWatches] Drayke5:
Just got mine!

I just got my S8. I upgraded from the S5. Like with that one, I was lucky. It was updated already, but not locked. Google Play worked and I was able to update and install things out of the box. My computer is weird and doesn’t automatically install drivers, so I was able to install ones from windows to make it work. When I used Kingo, it gave me the ‘not supported’ error; I’m not sure what I did wrong there. The issues that I have seen that are fixable without root:

The camera. It uses smoothing, probably because it only comes with the VGA/QVGA options. I use Open Camera and it gives me the option to use the whole 1.9MP.

The watch face. SwApp Link provides some watch faces, or you can use a lock screen. I use Galaxy Rain Locker, which looks nice for the screen size (I like digital clocks anyway). It can also go to the camera, which you can change the default.

The dialer. There is the option to go to the call log/contacts. Swipe right on the add contacts button to bring it up. Probably the only useful thing in the instructions.

The battery. 450 mAh vs 2000ish mAh. It’s surprising it lasts as long as it does. One thing that helped a lot on the S5 was disabling the bands you don’t use in engineering mode. I don’t know how much it helps because I did it right away. Also, T-Mobile supposedly uses 2100 for its 3G like the rest if the world. 2100 isn’t even listed so I guess we are getting 3G by… magic? Use Omega Status Bar to make people think you have 4G! (The desktop extention limitation still applies).

The companion issue. Pushbullet works if you use a SIM, SwApp Link works if you don’t.

The other problems I have found can be fixed with root, such as the notification bar and GPS.

All in all, I am satisfied with this iteration of the ZGPAX line.
[Other SmartWatches] Mirk2182:
So what is the difference between these two? I can't seem to find anything.
[Other SmartWatches] acidlore:
selling my s8

rooted s8 with updated firmware. It's in really good - near mint - condition. I'd like to get at least 80 bucks for it, plus whatever shipping would be from 28326 (Cameron, NC - USA). I had AT&T Straight Talk plan with it for a while until my wife bought me an LG G2 phone. I can't wear the watch to work because of where I work so it just sits there on a shelf.

It is rooted.

I take paypal. I don't do money orders or western union, or pretty much anything else but paypal.
[Other SmartWatches] jeffc83:
Thanks Janek69! I am also curious about the differences between these models:

ZGPAX S83

ZGPAX S82

The design is nice, looks promising!
[Other SmartWatches] mward1995:
Has anyone been able to install the Nike+ running app on the S8 and successfully used GPS with it? I'm looking for a watch like this to run with and have the ability to take calls and receive texts and I'd like to have the ability to use Nike+. If it works on this one, maybe the new S7 would work as well. I believe the S7 is waterproof, unlike this one. They have similar specs.
[Other SmartWatches] Zagzagel:
I think the difference is in the type of material used for the band. One is faux leather, and the other is plastic+silicone.
[Other SmartWatches] kyone2000:
The problem with Waterproof smart watches is that they can no longer have a standard micro USB port on the watch. They need a different style of connector for charging. Problem being is that you have to carry around your charger connector with you if you need to charge is again.. and with low battery capacity being able to charge it away from home is often required.
[Other SmartWatches] mward1995:
Yeah I can see how that would be an issue for some, but my main reason to obtain one of these watches is to use Nike+ (if it can be installed and function with GPS) and have the ability to receive calls/texts while I run outside a few times a week. I figure a watch like this would be more convenient than the 5" phone that I wear in an armband and being waterproof would be handy since I may run in a light rain several times a month. The S8 sounds interesting, but I'm afraid it wouldn't be a good idea to use it outside like this. I've looked into the Samsung Gear S, but the reviews haven't been the best for this purpose so I'm looking for an alternative. Never having a watch like this, I think using either the S7 or S8 would be fun. Having the ability to use Nike+ would be a nice bonus. Thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] ronfurro:
I don't recommend this watch for the first smartwatch user, it will be very frustrating to use. This is a watch that does everything and it can be confusing unless you have the background. Just me 2 cents.
[Other SmartWatches] bernsbe:
Ronfurro,

I just introduced my son to the world of mobile phones (as in: He never had a smartphone or mobile phone before).

He's happy to use a smart watch phone (it's the imacwear M7, also discussed in another topic in this forum), while I use the S8 for day to day use for just a month now.

The main advantages we see are: high portability, less potential of losing the phone, freedom to choose applications

The main disadvantages are:

-screen size: solved by using a tablet already available

-keyboard size: partly solved with tablet talk and airdroid, still looking for a viable solution, potentially a pocket size bluetooth keyboard

-handsfree speaker mandatory: solved by using a bluetooth earpiece
[Other SmartWatches] piechucki:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=60348823&postcount=1014
[Other SmartWatches] ronfurro:
I hear you. I love mine but it is more of a do-all okay then do anything really good kinda device. It certainly has its place at the top of the current crop of smartwatch.

Lately, I have been using a Gear S and honestly, despite its limited apps., I haven't looked back to the S8. Don't want to talk to much for about the Gear S on this thread but the real limitation for the S8 is its build quality. Use it for a couple months and see if you don't wind up with dirt, dead skin, dust in the device and under the screen. The buttons are very delicate, and the lack of any real water resistance makes it a real issue. I wish the build quality was a little better. I would pay more for an improved model in the future. Anyone say S9?

BUT Dollar for Dollar the S8 can't be beat!
[Other SmartWatches] bernsbe:
Rectification: The phone history is present. When one opens the stock phone app, at the bottom there is a green call button. Left to it is a orange contacts icon. Swipe this icon from left to right to show a menu featuring the call log.

---------- Post added at 02:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:28 PM ----------

Hi Piechucki,

I have MessageEase installed for a few weeks now, following your input. Thanks.

It works, kind off:

The whole keyboard takes about 1/4 of the screen and swiping it and reading the small print lettres on it is a challenge.

Would you know the way to make the buttons a bit bigger?
[Other SmartWatches] piechucki:
Tap the "Hand" and drag up.

Instructions "How To" http://www.exideas.com/ME/MessagEaseLocalizationFiles.zip (MessagEaseLocalizationFiles>>MessagEaseLocalizationFiles>>html files)
[Other SmartWatches] bernsbe:
You just saved me from buying an external bluetooth keyboard. Thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] janek69:
I use smart keyboard in T9 mode. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.cdeguet.smartkeyboardtrial
[Other SmartWatches] dev_null:
Would anyone recommend this over the other standalones, like the ec309, omate/clones, s5 and the inwatch z. I had an inwatch z until it got screwed up, so i'm looking for a new watch because i didnt learn from the 'mistake' of using the z as my primary phone.
[Other SmartWatches] chainsol:
If you're good with android, this could be an acceptable replacement for a phone. Especially if you used the inwatch. The battery is a bit lacking, maybe one day at best. And as a companion, not very good. But cheap, and nice to look at. Maybe a smartq instead?
[Other SmartWatches] 850RPM:
by any chance, there is any other ROM functioning for this watch?

and a dumb question: if I don't want to use it with stand-alone another sim, can it be paired with a phone and display the messages and maybe other notifications?

thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] KeyCat:
Hi,

Sorry for not reading thru all 108 pages so maybe this is mentioned by someone else? I've been testing my brothers S8 and like it, nice design and IMO this is a _REAL_ Smart Watch instead of the other ones Android Wear that links with your regular phone.

I just received my own and started to set it up and noticed that my brothers have options in the Camera app that don't shows in mine?

This means I'm unable to select camera resolution to 3M pixels or 5M pixels and some other options and the camera always take photos in 1600x1200 (3M pixels).

My brothers still camera setup screen have the following options....

Face detection > ON/OFF

Smile shot > ON/OFF

Self timer > OFF/2 sec/10 sec

Picture size > 3M/5M

ISO > Auto/100/200/300/400

Android version: 4.4.2 KitKat

Baseband version:MOLY.WR8.W1315.MD.WG.MP.W4,2013/08/14 18:16

Kernel: 3.4.67

Build nr:S8 S8 ALPS.KK1.MP7.V1.5

1413014088

^^^^^^^^^^

The one I got only have the following options (other camera apps options is the same)....

Face detection > ON/OFF

Self timer > OFF/2 sec/10 sec

Android version: 4.4.2 KitKat

Baseband version:MOLY.WR8.W1315.MD.WG.MP.W4,2013/08/14 18:16

Kernel: 3.4.67

Build nr:S8 S8 ALPS.KK1.MP7.V1.5

1426144584

^^^^^^^^^^

The only thing I see different is the build number and mine show a later build. I tried restoring everything to default twice, reformat the phone storage and SD card but no success. Anyone have any ideas or experienced the same?

Should I file RMA and return it?

/KC
[Other SmartWatches] janek69:
No problem with your phone. You have a newer model then your brother.The only difference is the camera. The older comes with 3Mpx camera the newer model 2Mpx camera. Compare the pictures,i think the newer 2Mpx better then older 3Mpx.
[Other SmartWatches] KeyCat:
Thanks for your input Janek.

A bit weird they can't get the facts strait on their website and product package. Ohh well no big deal since taking picture is quite hard anyway so I guess taking pictures will be quite minimal.

Since the camera was wrongly marked I wonder what Bluetooth version it actually is since I have ordered a few Bluetooth 4.0 products?

It doesn't say on the box and I haven't found a way to see BT version it in KitKat but they states BT 4.0 on their web, anybody using BT 4.0 products with S8?

/KC
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
Somebody known how take screenshots?

thanks
[Other SmartWatches] emuthebrave:
Drivers required to connect ZGPAX S8 to Windows 7

Hi

I ordered this device earlier this week via DX.COM - should arrive in a few weeks.

Amongst other things, I want to use the watch as a USB memory stick with my Windows 7 laptop. Do I need to have any special drivers, or will it be seen as an external drive like any other USB device?

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] kiakanpa:
I've just received mine, newer model, and can confirm it connects to my MiBand, which i believe is ble/bt4.0

Hope this helps
[Other SmartWatches] KeyCat:
[MENTION=6756623]emuthebrave[/MENTION]:

I just plugged mine in and it used Windows 7 own drivers.

[MENTION=5437601]kiakanpa[/MENTION]:

Great, thanks for the help!

Now I just have to figure out how to root this thing :)

/KC
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
Somebody can see compass? I think s8 don't have magnetic sensor! :(

If I shutdown watch, loose date/time! I think is not normal. Somebody have this problem too?

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] janek69:
In older models with 3Mpx camera have compass and work fine.
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
Did you solved this problem?

Same here!
[Other SmartWatches] kyone2000:
No. I was under the impression that all android devices had the ability to turn on and off with a set time. I confirmed that while some do eg the Z1 watch phone almost all others don't.

I use an app called Data manager. I use it to turn on wifi for 10 min in morning (while im at home) 3G data for 10 min at lunch time (while im out and about) and again wifi in the evening. That way i get email update a few times a day without leaving on the data connect, which chews a lot of battery life. The app does have flight mode for 10pm till 6, but this did not work for me, maybe the latest updates that have been installed on my phone has fixed this issue.. yet to re try.
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
Ok, Thanks.

But this is a problem, because if battery go to 0% watch loose time! :(
[Other SmartWatches] kyone2000:
Even if the battery is at 100% and you turn off the watch it loses time.

The time can be automatically updated based on the GSM signal or GPS (if you were to have that enabled). So every time I turn my watch on it has the incorrect time for about 10 seconds until it can be updated from the GPS signal.
[Other SmartWatches] giol:
I use an app called clocksync and it updates the time through internet on start up. It works well.
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
Good points... Kyone2000 and giol!

I saw clocksync is better with root...

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
Is is possible to add more face watches? I want one that can show if gsm and wifi are on or off.

By the way, any app to save battery? DU battery saver doctor?

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] sseng587:
google watchmaker live. It should be on the playstore.
[Other SmartWatches] jantie007:
Sports / cycling app

I bought the zpax as a "cycling" watch (eg for strava use..). Anyone knows a good app that shows speed/heartrate/distance.. on the screen like a normal cycling computer ?

All regular sport apps (wahoo fitness/cateye/ghostracer) are not "readable" during cycling...
[Other SmartWatches] kyone2000:
Some of the apps I have installed are designed for hand held phone size screen, you cannot scroll down to the bottom of the screen. Is there anyway to scroll down on our small screens ?
[Other SmartWatches] giol:
Have you tried changing the app dpi with "app settings"? I had success with wahoo and other apps, using a dpi of 100
[Other SmartWatches] David42290:
Try Geonaute apk, find it in Google play, you can see all info in real time

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.geonaute.geonaute&hl=fr
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
But it is installed on the watch or on smartphone and then exported to watch?

Thanks!
[Other SmartWatches] sseng587:
on watch
[Other SmartWatches] KeyCat:
Been trying to root my S8 (stock ROM 1413014088) without success.

First I tried with ROOT Genius 2.2.6.0 but that failed and after that I tried twice with Kingo Root 1.3.8.2351 and it said rooting was successful on the PC and I see a new app named Kingo ROOT installed on the phone but when trying to run apps that requires root access it shows a tiny window with something like...

KingoUser

Request for root permission

- - -

(top of a red circle) (top of a blue circle)

I can't see everything since the tiny window popping up is cut on bottom but it looks like a red circle to the left and a blue circle to the right, after ~5 sec a message with "KingoUser denied to File Manager". I tried to root it twice with Kingo Root since I read some had to do that, what am I missing?

I've done my best to read thru this thread but since it's massive I have not read every 1000+ replies. Are there any good guides available on how to root this phone? Is it possible to root it manually using only adb without depending on 3rd party root utilities?

Any help or pointers appreciated...

/KC
[Other SmartWatches] chainsol:
I made the same mistake - kingroot and Kingoroot are two different things. Kingroot seems to work and puts a valid superuser apk and su binary, while kingoroot acts like malware, so uninstall kingoroot from your pc and phone, and try kingroot or framaroot.

Also - it is possible to root manually, I believe it is as simple as pushing a su binary to the proper location, and setting permissions. Adb shell gives you a root shell on the s8.
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
I used Kingoroot without any problem. First tried iRoot without success.

http://www.kingoapp.com/android-root/download.htm
[Other SmartWatches] stkstkstk2008:
I would like to get a ZGPAX S8

But on the bay there about £90.

How can I tell if there a fake or not please help.

I live in the UK

Thanks :)
[Other SmartWatches] janek69:
Not exist fake model from S8.