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[General Questions and Answers] jcase:
Grow up? I've been more than respectful, and invested plenty of time (and money) into working this. What I do with my time, money and results of my investment are entirely my business.

Threatening to report me to my fellow moderators because I don't have the time (nor the care) to work on somethings leaves me lost for words.
[General Questions and Answers] TecheTag:
[MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] you know you got the juice...no need to waste your time with these peons...

[MENTION=524392]youp[/MENTION]eons the man said he done wit it so yall need to leave him alone... If Yall want root so bad use your own brain power and find it yourself instead of waiting on someone else to do it for you...
[General Questions and Answers] ph37rd:
This thread has jumped the shark and run its course.
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
I understand your feeling were hurt, however, you need to understand that even though there were people trolling you, there is no reason for you to make other good people suffer here.

Also, please, look up the GNU Public license on the OS and that a root is basically a crack into a factory OS and boot strings, and you want to charge for a crack or hack into the OS and make others suffer?

Think about this for a minute, and remember, you're talking to a person that has worked with computers for over 25 years.

Thank you.
[General Questions and Answers] coppertop2000:
any real devs here?

Hey...I actually might be able to help out. I'm not a dev, but I have an 'in' with some people at ZTE. If there are any actual devs here who can provide me with what they need to create a root tool/exploit (and don't say unlocked bootloader because as stated by ZTE, that ain't happening right now...and besides, it's not needed for root access), let me know and I can try to get the ball rolling.

I'm familiar with root access, and like having it on my phones....but I have no idea how to achieve it without instructions. But I do genuinely have an 'in', and a way to get some info, but I don't want to waste my time with guesses.
[General Questions and Answers] jcase:
I'm not hurt (beyond my back), im busy and annoyed. No one is suffering because of me, if someone feels like they are suffering by not having root then they need to look into their priorities, and possibly look at buying a device they know can be rooted. I devoted time and money to work on something, I stopped because multiple people came to me and told me ZTE is releasing an unlock (why waste my time). I no longer have time to work on it, and now people won't stop harassing me or acting a fool over it.

Also, please actually look up the license that Android is under, and how this license applies here (hint it does not apply in any way shape or form). Android is licensed under Apache License V2, not GNU. Neither GPL nor Apache apply to anything I write, unless I decide to license under them. You don't have a grasp of what a root is, its not simply "a crack into a factory OS and boot strings", and yes I do often charge for them, not as often as I give them away, but it still happens. They take money and time to make.

You are talking to a person who has devoted his whole professional career, and much of his "free time' to mobile security. I have a greater than average grasp of this field.
[General Questions and Answers] loner6996:
Some people are just unbelievable. Just know that there are people here in this thread as well on xda who truly appreciate everything you and I've sent you a little token of my appreciation. It's really to bad some some people insist on screwing things up.
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
So you're basically going to ruin the experience for many and you simply do not care? I thank you for your time.
[General Questions and Answers] smilesintears77:
ultimately it is mr jcase's decision to do whatever he wants to do with his work. Period! Jcase made a choice and we like it or not, it is what it is. one thing though sir jcase.. you said you don't want to discuss about zmax so lets not anymore.. please just ignore these people who talk s@@t. reason im asking is everytime i see your name here.. it makes me have my hopes up again.. so let's all stop.
[General Questions and Answers] jcase:
I apologize if my illness, and busy life inconveniences you, and ruins your experience. I understand now that it is my sole duty to fix things for you, to your liking. I truly apologize that you are unhappy with the circumstances.
[General Questions and Answers] hroark13:
dude, hope you feel better, rest and get well
[General Questions and Answers] DroidisLINUX:
I still love this device regardless of what

Happens root or not.
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
I apologize that you're sick and sorry you hurt your back. I hope you get well soon, however, you can't simply get ahold of a laptop, make a nandroid backup, compress it to a zip file, and upload it so that other developers can play with the fact that it's rooted and even figure out how you rooted it and develop from there?

Seriously, that takes about an hour (If you backup your OS as it is, do a factory reset, make a backup of that, zip that backup, upload it, and then reload your OS back).

Seriously, that's pretty much all anyone really wants so that you can help the community make it toward root of this device.

Now, I personally do not have the time to tear apart a Linux/Android/Z970 kernel at this time as my career mostly involves Windows Server and Windows in general (I hope you understand my pain), however, many other developers around here do and would more than love to.

Now, I'm sorry, but stating that you have root and then stating that you're not going to give it to anyone is like a child stating that "You're not nice to me, so, I'm taking my toys and going home."

Also, you've caused upon yourself no one believing that you've actually obtained root with this device because of that.

Also, you can actually take a moment to help a developer or 2 here for this device that has become extremely popular.

Now, can we please get some other developers in here also please, because, maybe others can come up with other methods of rooting before anyone has a look at jcase's that may even be easier than the method he/she may have used?

Also, jcase, I've been meaning to ask you, is this a surface root (rooted by an app that is required to stay on the device in order to keep root), or an actual root?

Also, can you load a custom ROM unto your device if there was one available? In other words, did you achieve unlocking the boot loader as well or just root?

I personally suspect that the locked boot loader on this device is similar to the way locked bootloaders are done on Samsung devices, however, even though it has an ODIN, or file transfer mode, cannot seem to find a way to get into a fastboot mode, unless, like a Samsung, it's being overcovered by something in the LAF.

Could the FTM mode be covering fastboot?

Can you clarify?

Thank you.
[General Questions and Answers] TecheTag:
Woooow so you talk down on the guy... Then you ask him for something.... Get real dude...
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Are you a developer? Slow your roll and quit trolling and lets get some work done please. I'm simply trying to get information because, well, no one actually believes him because of the way he's acting, and, quite frankly, you're not helping any with your attitude.

Also, do you yourself have an answer to any of the questions I've asked? If you do not, then research and learn those answers and see if you can help yourself rather than trolling.

Thank you.
[General Questions and Answers] TecheTag:
Actually I do have answers to those question but I don't have to answer to you or anyone else on this forum... And no im not a developer but I've been doing some reading and and messing around with Linux but im learning....and your the troll, you the 1 round here tryna suck info off of somebody... How about you some do research and find the answer to your questions....
[General Questions and Answers] voidcomp:
I believe him. Stop being a ****.
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
I do not condone nor do I support yours or anyone's childish behavior in this matter. You're actually not helping at all by not sharing and keeping that attitude, and, therefore, make yourself completely appear as if you have no idea what you're talking about when you may seem to.

Do you understand? By the way you're acting, no one believes you or jcase?
[General Questions and Answers] jcase:
Build me a functioning, flashable recovery image, and I'll take a nandroid backup. It will offer no one any insight and would merely be a waste of time, mostly the time of whomever builds the recovery (you?).

I could not careless if someone believed me or not.
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
I'm done with this thread.. too many...

I decided that I'm not completely done now that jcase actually stated that he will help in a way that he doesn't even realize yet.... by making a backup that someone can tear apart the kernel on, more can be learned from it....
[General Questions and Answers] TecheTag:
BYE BYE SEE YOU LATER:cool:
[General Questions and Answers] rfunderburk39:
I believe the hope of root, and a unlocked boot loader will never happen without the method via ZTE to unlock the loader. I find it highly unlikely any developer will come on board. I've witnessed the most disrespect to a developer in this one thread, I'm amazed.

These people that help out and give up there time, resources, knowledge, etc... To make demands like you are entitled to a root/custom ROM, someone's work, shock me.
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Now jcase, first of all, thank you... I'm done with people like TechTag by the way. By the way, by giving a nandroid backup, someone can actually tear apart the kernel and find out more about how you achieved root, and, that helps tremendously more than you know.

Now, going a somewhat CWM route would be nice, but, have you unlocked the bootloader also? I just figured that it would be easier to load a custom recovery with that unlocked.

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Thank you for being good spirited at least about this. I'm trying to figure out if this phone has a fastboot that is covered by FTM or something... if we can get to that someway, maybe we can unlock the bootloader via a fastboot on PC.
[General Questions and Answers] tech_yeet:
[MENTION=5255474]Starflare5[/MENTION]what dose j case got lie for? I mean really the guy has rooted/help root many phones before this one and he's a mobile security expert.
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Clockworkmod....

Can we please get one of the Clockworkmod developers in here to look into this as well? Come one people, let's get together on this.

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jcase has pretty much stated that he's not lying and seems willing to help, even with what little he can do at this time.... Now, can we get some more developers in here on this to help... I think with what jcase has, and what other developers can do with it, we can all not only achieve root across the thousands of people that own this device, but, unlocked bootloader, and, get some developers to start looking into custom ROMS finally for a great device.
[General Questions and Answers] 4NDROID4LIFE:
I made a fun joke, he the great one was not able to root it and he got butt hurt cuz of my joke and then just had a tantrum. He gave a list of reasons aka excuses and pulled a famous jcase tantrum so sorry everyone. Yes I do not own this phone. I would like to but was waiting for some kind of root/development but it was never coming. Signing out peons.

Sent From D850 ILLUSION 6
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Seriously, I hate to be a ***** here, but, you really did not help matters at all, because, you actually did not know if he achieved root unless you have his rooted ROM yourself.

Now, as jcase has pointed out, he asked for a custom recovery which may pretty much may point to the fact that he has achieved root....

So, my take on the situation is why don't we get a clockworkmod developer in here so that the developers can get ahold of his rooted ROM and tear it apart, learn how he achieved root, and find other methods of doing so...

Now, if you think jcase is lying, that's your prerogative, however, by calming down and actually being adult about it and answering some questions, he has shown me that he may have actually achieved it, and, others will be able to learn from that.

Now, how about you look into some development options also? Also, see if we have someone out there willing to help more rather than not believing people. Also, make jokes, but, also, ask more questions next time.
[General Questions and Answers] StonerSteve420:
I say we all stop bickering whoever has no life can stop talking down to [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] let the actual developers do their work everyone focus on their own damn life and stop being children. Is it that much of an ego boost to say stupid immature comments that get us no where and make you look like a 10 year old? Seriously there are thousands of other forums and countless other website to troll on like Facebook. Please for the sake of those who want root just shut up and let the developers do their work god I'm tired of people thinking they are hot stuff because they have a damn screen in between them and the developers. You trolls are killing my damn buz here
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Now, TecheTag...

So, TecheTag,

Are you ready to actually participate and help get more development going, get some work done, and have some fun, or, are you just going to continue on your previous path?

Because, I would very much appreciate it if you were one of the people to get ahold of jcase's rooted ROM, and look into some ROM development for it.. maybe even gat some help from the Cyanogenmod developers for starters and we can get the many, many other great developers on this forum to expand on that from there.

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Stoner, you stated in a rather interesting way exactly what I was saying in short..... Thank you.
[General Questions and Answers] loner6996:
What can we do to help?
[General Questions and Answers] hroark13:
just curious, does this mean that an un-signed recovery would boot on this phone ?
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Well, hhhmmmmm...... How would you like to help?

jcase pretty much stated that he needs a custom recovery to created a nandroid backup of his rooted ROM, and, I think something based off of clockworkmod would be best.

Maybe you can also look into possible development of a cyanogenmod based custom ROM.... Lollipop might be best for this device just FYI.

Oh, and suggestion, please look into moving apps to SD. My boyfriend would appreciate that very much so.

Also, [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION], have you unlocked the bootloader as well? We need to know this.

Ok, let's do this people. I have to leave, so, I'm done rallying for a little while, but, let's get this done....

Thank you by the way everyone who's actually willing to participate.
[General Questions and Answers] totlth:
I'm not a dev. But I have built cm builds and clockwork recoveries for other devices. Mainly an older zte phone. I have this device so I was thinking of setting up another build box if we get root. I've never worked on root. I'm just throwing my hat in for cwm and cm builds when the time comes.
[General Questions and Answers] dongarritas:
Wow....I've never seen such whining and disrespect on XDA. The closest I have seen to this is on the OnePlusOne forums before invites. Yes, I would like root on this device, honestly just to block ads and use a few root apps, but in the scheme of things it is just a blip on the radar. This device has almost no bloat, and what there is can be disabled. Theming can be accomplished through a launcher such as next, same with lockscreen. Unlimited tethering can be done by creating a new APN. I'm just an end user and enthusiast, but if you don't know what I am talking about for customization and creating an APN, you probably have no business rooting your phone anyway. Enjoy the freedom $200 will buy you, or go get yourself an iPhone. :eek:
[General Questions and Answers] stinkbud:
All ZTE and Tmo need to do is hook us up with unlocked bootloader and root and all this childish bickering will go away.

Sigh, this thread has really gone downhill fast.
[General Questions and Answers] Vyrus69:
For the people who are nice and friendly and actually care about this phone just know jcase will NEVER release for this phone. Too many people were too stupid so its never going to come out. I got some tidbits from him which I'm appreciative of but that's probably all we will get.

The root he achieved was not through an unlocked bootloader otherwise he wouldn't ask for a recovery to make a backup. Secondly he said that it was not a releasable method, so its something much more complicated then fastboot, adb, etcc

So lets all please move on from him and start working on this ourselves and figure it out.
[General Questions and Answers] Vyrus69:
Just got more information and yea...unless Zte releases a bootloader unlock, I doubt root is achieved.

Put it this way there is currently no exploit out there that will root the Zmax.

So for all of the trolls that decided to be children and feel like they are cool by acting how you did, you LITERALLY ruined any chance of this phone being rooted.

Its no wonder so many devs don't pay attention to xda.
[General Questions and Answers] stinkbud:
Too bad. This phone has so much potential.
[General Questions and Answers] 4NDROID4LIFE:
I'm confused. Did jcase root it or not? I think not. Where's the pudding?

Sent from my D850 T-Mobile SIM
[General Questions and Answers] DroidisLINUX:
Yea we get it your gay have a nice day
[General Questions and Answers] Vyrus69:
Yes his own personal zmax is fully rooted through a brand new exploit he created.

So unless he ever needs that exploit for any other phone it will never be released.

Our only hope now is a boot loader unlock from Zte.
[General Questions and Answers] stinkbud:
He did. Thanks to you he isn't going to release it. Please go now.
[General Questions and Answers] thereal_antiHackmasta:
[MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] I'm willing to pay for the exploit. I think you deserve that for your time and effort. Let me know if that's something you would be willing to do.
[General Questions and Answers] hroark13:
jcase probably has an exploit that can root any phone. He probably uses this to get access to the phone and search for any vulnerabilities that can be exploited on that particular phone, and then made public without revealing his secrets.

It is his personal back door to Android, so to say.

If he were to release his back door for this one phone, or a general root for a bunch of phones, the manufacturers would soon patch this, and his backdoor would be gone. He would no longer be able to find and release stuff that is releasable.

So I would not be quick to blame anybody for him not releasing his root method, but pestering jcase and insulting him will definitely make him not want to spend any time looking for a releasable exploit on this phone.

From what I know of ZTE I can probably guess a couple of things.

1. The bootloader requires recoveries and kernels to be signed with ZTE's private key, this means no CWM or TWRP unless the bootloader gets unlocked or some type of LOKI exploit is made.

2. The partitions are write protected by the bootloader, this means even if you get temp root, you can not install permanent root files, there are a bunch of ZTE phones that are like this.

So even if he did release what he has, it would be unusable by most people as a root solution.

Now I may be wrong about all this, but I would be willing to bet a beer I am pretty close to it.

So my suggestion is to continue to pester T-Mobile and ZTE about releasing a bootloader unlock, doubt it will get you any where, but it is probably the only chance you have.

hK.
[General Questions and Answers] D33PTHAWTE:
Recommendations:

Huawei Ascend Mate 2

Alcatel OneTouch Hero 2+ (soon to be released)

Good luck folks.

Mod, for the love of mercy, just delete this entire thread.

I know I'm not the only one who would like to forget.
[General Questions and Answers] mingolianbeef:
TL;DR

Root is temp root. Root doesn't stick. Its "root" without all the perks. That's not because the devs are bad, its the limitations of the lack of r/w system access. That's coming from Velrix who was actively working on others with root. Whether or not he was collabing with jcase, idk.
[General Questions and Answers] therealduckie:
Good lord. I leave this thread for a while to take care of my mother, who just had 2 heart attacks, and also deal with my own major health issues, to a bunch of whining, disrespect and childishness?

My apologies to [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] for mentioning his name. Seems everyone decided their angst and frustration was an excuse to attack him. How is that even remotely how you get someone's support? That is the very opposite of logic.

Shame on all of you, including everyone who sat back and allowed it.

"This is why we can't have nice things" - Just remember, you all did this to yourselves and all the other patient, respectful and rational ZTE owners who will now have to live without root because you couldn't restrain your selfishness.

Thanks a lot.
[General Questions and Answers] Planterz:
As the OP of this thread, I'm tempted to ask a mod to close this thread or even have it removed. I'm disgusted by the behavior of some of the trolls in this thread. If I actually owned this phone, I'd be even more pissed at those people. I "disowned" this thread long ago because I'll never bother with this phone (root or not), but the way some people have acted is disgraceful and disrespectful, and it irks me to see people behaving in such ways in something that I started. I thank the mods for cleaning it up (again and again) from such nonsense.

[MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION]

Illegitimis non carborundum. Glad you weren't hurt in the accident. And I can definitely sympathize with back pain.

If you do ever decide to share root, perhaps there's a way to only share it with those that pledged donations in the bounty thread. Maybe even require that the phone be mailed too you. I'm not trying to persuade you towards anything, I'm just saying that there's a decent chunk of change that'd be yours. Something to keep in your back pocket, should the need or desire arise.

As for me, I just got my tax refunds, and I'm getting a OnePlus One.
[General Questions and Answers] kardeef:
I have seen this before, Thanks jcase for looking into root. Thanks you trolls for ruining it again for the other 95% of is :(
[General Questions and Answers] graysooner:
Enough!

Sounds like a kindergarten class here.
[General Questions and Answers] Lesharoturbo:
The funny (ironic) thing is that most people think this phone is good the way it is. I to would like root and maybe a custom ROM. I did like CM11 on my gnex. I just do not understand all of the fracas that is going on.

I really appreciate all the work that has gone into this phone. Hopefully, we can get something rolling without ticking any more people off.

I wish I could help, but I do not have the skills or time. Yep, I am just a wannabe!