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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] cloudraker:
I have a real good friend who is actually the lead rep at our samsung store. Been friends with him for about 4 years, since he sold me tons of phones as an AT&T sales rep. He says that his information has the Edge being actually available by black Friday, but they arent sure when pre-orders will start. That being said, the bad news is this. He says good luck getting one. Apparently, the way things look right now, it is expected that the carriers will only get roughly 5,000 units so its gonna be tough to get a hold of.

Edited to add: Thats 5,000 units per carrier.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spinedoc:
That's only if it's for a new line, right?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] GuestX0019:
well i will catch hell for this but--

i played with it and 6+ at BB. the screen on the 4 is astounding. speakers did not impress me and no bass. however all i could play was a sammy demo. my s4 seemed a lot better and i played the s4 with and without viper. not a good test i know. just initial impression. i am going to play with both a lot. i always do before buying. will try other music on the demos. it is tough bc of the backround noise in store.

both phones did not seem to scroll smooth for me. this was done by bringing up Google News and scrolling down through all the news links. 6+ seemed the same. they stutter. i may be too critical on that though. my note demo seemed to have some touch screen issues like my nexus one did where touches weren't registered immediately. again may have been me as it is hard to hold the phones with the security attached. reviews i have watched didn't show those issues. so i am taking all this with a grain of salt atm.

i am looking at both as i may take a break from flashing and son and his wife have iPhones and live out of town. he only seems interested in the iPhones IM. Weird I know. but if it gets me more IM time, the better. my next phone i want smoothness and good audio/call quality so when on speaker phone it is not raspy.

at this point undecided. but will test the audio as much as possible in store. my needs for the phone may not include all the features the 4 has. i do give apple credit for running good ui's with only 1gb ram.

both phones seem really nice and it comes down to what works best for each person. i always assumed the 4 was a no brainer, hope so.

this is an honest, unbiased initial impression. i need much more time with both
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jlczl:
Yes. I have a line I need to port over.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] ElCamino:
Checked out the Note 4 as well at Best Buy, screen is fabulous! Will be getting the Note 4 when it becomes available. Did a quick test vs my Note 3 camera. I took a picture of the sign at the store with my Note 3 and the Note 4 and the Note 4 was much better. Also the Note 4 is a tad bigger.View attachment 2954082View attachment 2954083View attachment 2954084View attachment 2954085
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] lovenokia:
I also thought that the scrolling felt a bit laggy. I think that it may have to do with the demo software that samsung had installed on the device. It seemed to be bogging things down quite a bit. It just did not feel all that fluid, but the iphone 6 plus felt that is was scrolling it a bit better. I do hope that the ATT note 4 will be root soon enough so that I can rid touchwiz of the device.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] GuestX0019:
It could have been me and demos may vary. The S5 was fluid on the demos I used, so would expect same on 4. Thought speaker could be better. Only HTC gets that I guess--;)

I am torn on the 6+ and N4. Either way flashing will be probably stopping for me. Too much time to keep up on it all with these locked bl's.

I tried my son's iPhone 6 on Sunday. Met him and his wife for dinner. Had my other son call me from inside restaurant and I was outside on speakerphone. Sounded good and screen was very readable in sunlight.

I am looking for smoothness and good audio from one of these two. I know I will never use all the "neat" stuff on the N4. Don't use it on the S4.

Nothing but high praise on the camera. He showed me some photos of a new born, not theirs. Very nice--:good:

Am hesitant on the many apps needing optimized for the 6+

I will probably wait and see how they both go and the Nexus 6. But, pretty sure it will be 6+ or N4. :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gtalum:
I feel similarly pretty much across the board except that I'm down to Note 4, Moto X, and Nexus 6. I'm kind of tired of the flashing game, but I want a bit more customization than iOS allows. Honestly Moto X would have been the ideal device had they not skimped on the battery. I'm not confident that it will last a full day for me and I hate having to charge during the day.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] :
:good:

I will miss root though--
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] barondebxl:
Dude i just came back from my local best buy store, the Note 4 is beyond amazing to me. That display alone is absolutely ridiculously beautiful. watching videos on youtube, i thought that the purple wallpaper they were using was ugly. But seeing it in person on that QHD Amoled display is something else. You have to check it out in store folks seriously. I have returned my iphone 6 and soon as my refund is cleared im preordering the note4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] WizeGuyDezignz:
Hey, good to see you buddy! Funny thing, I just came back from Best Buy as well lol. I already have my pre-order in, but I wanted to see this beast in person. And let me tell you, I completely agree with you. This phone is a beautiful beast!

Anyone who is saying they don't think it's worth the upgrade over the Note 3 is either nuts or can't do the upgrade for whatever reason (contract, financial situation, etc). Because this phone just made my jaw drop. Absolutely stunning screen and very fluid and snappy across the board. I wasn't considering cancelling my pre-order anyways, but this Best Buy visit just convinced me that I'm getting the best phone of 2014 and possibly beyond.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] barondebxl:
Hey man!!!! Where have you been??? :)

Yeah man, that display man isnt it something else?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Yakuzahi:
I just went to play with the note 4 today and they do let you play with everything except there is no phone icon that I could test the speaker but I did a test with video and it very loud.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] WizeGuyDezignz:
Hey!! I have been on the AT&T S5 since April. So I've spent some time flashing roms, but I'm even doing some theming now. I joined the XKrome team over there and we are doing some big things right now.

But the Note 4 is just gonna be too good for me to pass up. Like you said, that screen is absolutely incredible!

Good to see you bro and hope to see you around soon!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] barondebxl:
Yeah you too! I recently switched to T-mobile ( actually the day the iphone 6 came out) so ill be more on that forum but ill see you around ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tbetress:
Pre-Order Special Best Buy

I just did the pre-order special at best buy.

If you are eligible for an upgrade, you can get the Note 4 for 299.99 and they give you a 200.00 gift card / rebate can be used immediately on the price of the phone. You get the phone / own it for 99.00.

Can't beat that with a stick.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] TechBSwift:
I just sold my note 3 and got the iphone 6+. I've played with the Note 4 at BB several times and I can tell you, I will be jumping ship to the Note 4 on the 17. The iphone 6+ is an amazing phone, buttery smooth and takes great pictures, but lacks the wow factory. I extremely hate itunes and files have to be in certain formats in order to copy them to the iphone. Another thing that drives me crazy is the iphone 6+ is taller than the note 4, but you can't rearrange folders and apps on your home screen to make them easier to reach, everything shifts to the top of the screen until you have enough apps to reach the bottom. I will say I will miss the fingerprint scanner....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] americasteam:
Sold my G3 and bought the iPhone Plus also. Great device, but preordered the Note 4 after playing with it today at Best Buy. iPhone is either getting sold or taken back within the 14 day trial. Note screen is fabulous.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] :
I am still torn now too. The Plus still has bugs to work out on ios8. Mainly scaling, app optimazation. I need to play more with both. Am in no hurry, will wait to see how ios8 progresses. 4 is great. But, like I mentioned, not sure I will use all that neat stuff. Nice to have choices though--:)

I already put all my media into iTunes/iPhoto. So no issue there. I could get the 4 and wait on the iPhone Plus to mature. :confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] drmacrofish:
How did they have you do the pre-order. Did you pay the whole amount already and do the phone trade in, or did you just do the buy a 50$ gift card thing for the pre-order?

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If you are going to buy a new iPhone each year than go ahead and go for it. If not, I for sure would wait till next year's version as it will be faster and I could almost guarantee will have a more appropriate amount of Ram.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] :
If you are going to buy a new iPhone each year than go ahead and go for it. If not, I for sure would wait till next year's version as it will be faster and I could almost guarantee will have a more appropriate amount of Ram.

I agree with that. 1gb seems low for this phone. And waiting may be my best choice.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Woogie360:
I stopped at Best Buy to take a look at the Note 4 yesterday. They had 2 white Note 4s and a black Note Edge. I wanted to cut the security cable on the Note Edge and take it to the register. They didn't have a release date or pricing yet so I pre ordered the Note 4. The Gear VR was also on display but hadn't been set up for demos.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] drmacrofish:
Freaking A, Best Buy upped their price on the ATT phone to match ATT now. 825.99$ That sucks. Amazon still has it at 799$. Hopefully once the phone actually goes on sale, they will keep that price and maybe can get best buy to price match. This is starting to become a game.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] J-man67:
I originally pre-ordered through ATT. Then I remembered I just signed a contract on our new office a few weeks ago with a move date of oct 15th. I tried having the shipping address changed, but ATT claimed they were unable to do so. I canceled the order and went to Best Buy. Played with the demo for about 10 mins. SWEET fuggin phone!!! I then pre-ordered (again). He asked for 50.00 for the pre-order, but then stuck a 50.00 gift card into my info packet. I asked if it was just a ploy to get people to spend the 50 prior to the release and he said yes. Just felt stupid to me. Anyway, whats the deal with ordering through BB? Noticed a few people said 200 gift cards or something. Just wondering if there was a perk in doing so. Only perk for me at this point is I can pick it up from that store as soon as it arrives.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] BlockEight88:
I played with it. Amazing build quality, same ol' laggy touchwiz interface.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Dr. Evo:
At this point, I think that only melodramatic tech geeks and wannabe tech geeks, are the people who make their big deal over lag when it comes to TouchWiz. After owning every version of the Note, my idea of "lag" is when it takes more than a few seconds for a command to execute, or when there is a pronounced delay in things such as if I'm in an app and I hit the home button, it'll take 2 or more seconds for the phone to react. Anything outside of that is just an excuse to *****. There was no lag whatsoever on the Note 4 I played with, that would make me feel like the phone would be bothersome with everyday use. It didn't feel any faster or slower than the iPhone 6 a Best Buy rep let me play with.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] tbetress:
At pre-order you get a 50 dollar gift card (if you decide to cancel the pre-order you still have your 50 bucks but in a gift card).

When the note 4 comes in, you give them the 50 dollar gift card and 50 bucks in cash, they give you a 200 gift card that you immediately give back to them and they take it off the phone therefore making the out of pocket payment 100 bucks (99.99).

:good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] J-man67:
Really? No sh*t! Good to know. Thanks! Does my old phone have to be traded in for that? They didnt mention any of this, which is why I am curious.

thanks!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spinedoc:
How will BB handle the $200 if you are upgrading to the Next program? I'm assuming you will just get a BB gift card, which isn't bad but I'd prefer it to just go towards paying the Next off.

Also which phones are you guys finding that will be tradable? I will probably pay the $39 for a Nokia 520 at BB right then and there, it shows up as worth $6. I don't have any other phones laying around and $200-$39 is still sweet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] gtalum:
Is there a way to change DPI without root? That's going to be my primary concern with this phone. Having a giant UI is such a waste of beautiful screen real estate.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Nizda1:
I also tried out the note 4, and like some others don't have as much time anymore to keep up with flashing the latest roms etc. But I did feel like the phone was lagging slightly, then I went into settings and saw remaining space was 17gb. Obviously the demo software is taking up some space plus there was a couple extra apps downloaded onto it. Regardless, the system OS still comes in at almost 12gb. Yes, it's a 32gb phone but it just reminds me why root is so important to me at least. Another thing to wonder about is were so used to being able to use the sdcard for apps, anyone that's been on Samsung stock roms know if that ability still still works on the latest Kitkat roms? After trying the note, I tested the iphone 6 it felt like a toy in comparison.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] borijess:
I would also like to know about the next program. Do they apply the 200 to the phone which will lower next payment to like 25 bucks a month.

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 2! ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] note3palermo:
customize

Which device gives you the most customization without flashing? The moto x? I have the note 3 and use xposed installer.. Which device gives you the best things and tricks to do... Which is the best to customize. I always thought the note 3, soon the be the note 4 was the way to go. Tell me please
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Aridon:
Thought hard about getting this device but I think I'm going to stick with my OnePlus. I just cant' support the AT&T Version which is likely to be locked down hard. I'm not a flash a holic or anything but I do like options Android has provided in the past. Why support Samsung and AT&T? I see no reason to pay close to $800 for this with devices like Shamoo and Bacon out there for less.

Sorry Sammy, you shouldn't of sold out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] spinedoc:
Totally agree. The issue is that I need the s-pen and no other phone has this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Fidelio_o:
Just played with it at my local best buy and I'm in love. Just the display alone and I need it in my life lol

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I will probably jump on the T-mobile version lets see what some people will sell it for on swappa
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] jfclk33:
I just went to my local Best Buy last night to check the phone out. I asked one of the employees there and she said that you get the $200 gift card, but they don't apply to the price of the phone on the ATT Next plan.

I figure if I do this, I'll use it for accessories for the phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] sejin:
I met some customers (I work for AT&T) that have the oneplus. To me it looks real cheap. Like you bought that phone for 350 as suggested. Colors are washed out on the display. I'm glad I'm getting the note 4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nan96:
Do you get the 200$ gift card immediately when you walk into Best Buy for the promotion?

Or do you get it when you pick the phone up on release day?

Also my local Best Buy said that I might not even get it on release day, and that they would call me when it was in......... What are your guys thoughts?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] sonicsarah:
I was thinking about holding out for an Edge. Thanks for the info!! I would have been thoroughly pissed if I'd waited that long and still not gotten one. I pre-ordered my Note 4 on the 29th. This makes me feel better about making that decision. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] RTBee:
I thought the Note 4 had both a fingerprint and a retinal scanner? Did they drop those features?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mpazevedo:
The Note 4 has the fingerprint scanner. No retinal scanner. I don't know if any phone that has that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Hardcore73:
You don't get the $200 Best Buy credit until you pick up your phone and do the trade in that day. You just have to have the Pre Order by the date deadline to qualify. I am trading an old iPhone 4 in ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nan96:
Best Buy values the iPhone 3gs at 5$ :(

I wonder if they will still accept it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] optimusv45:
Lol that's funny
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] Hardcore73:
They have to accept ANY working smartphone. Just has to power on and be in good condition (no cracked screen or water damage)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] nan96:
I think somewhere in the Best Buy fine print it says that the phone must have a trade in value of 10$ or higher.

But it could be up to the particular Best Buy you go to..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] J-man67:
Damn, my S3 currently has a cracked screen. I was willing to trade in my old Atrix but not if I'm only getting 5 bucks for it. It was the first Android to have a finger print scanner... And maybe dual core...? Don't remember.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] srtpusher:
No where does it say that. The $10 is for the Samsung trade in promo, which is different from the best buy promo. The best buy promo states ANY working smartphone. I have this confirmed by email from best buy corporate.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] malinois16:
Same here. I went into store and they told me the same thing. I also read it on the sign in store. It says ANY working smartphone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Hardcore73:
You can play with the new Note 4 at Best Buy starting today. Hopefully some of you will get us some good videos to check out.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Lanoon:
Galaxy Note

Is the Galaxy note has the best camera ever?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
sure, why not
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Mark.Y:
LMAO ^^^^
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] thykhin:
nice
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jayochs:
I played with it last night... damn that phone is awesome! love it. can't wait to get one. just dumb that the display models are ready to go yet the damn phone won't be out for a month. wtf is that crap?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] 4smartphone:
:)

goood :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] SeanPlunk:
I played with both the Note 4 and Edge today.

The screens on both are stunning. Everything looks a step sharper than the Note 3. The colors still pop, but everything looks more natural. Whites are noticeably whiter. Both screens are brighter too.

The metal rim is a nice touch and from a quality standpoint both devices were nicer than the Note 3. Still, they're not on the level of the iPhone/HTC devices and are probably closer in quality to the G3/Moto X (2014).

I was super excited for the Edge, but after using one I'm not sure what I think. The bent edge is really small and kind of awkward to use on its own. For most applications that section doesn't do anything. When I was using Chrome for instance it just goes black and says My Note Edge. I installed Nova to see what it did with a launcher and the result was the same. You can swipe the strip and something will come up, but there didn't seem to be a full-screen mode where normal content was stretched to that area automatically. Also when using some apps the content from the strip area seemed to overlap slightly over the main screen area.

I couldn't get any great pics (and some are blurry) but here they are:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Rippley05:
I played with the Note at Best Buy as well. They had 3 on display, all were white.

There are very few differences from the Note 3 and S5, but that screen is just perfect. The settings menu is like the s5 except it has some quick settings up top and the background is white. The calendar and clock widgets have transparent options (the s5 has the ability to make the widget transparent). The folder icons look like the s5, but you can no longer change the color. Blue is the only option, which is pretty lame.

The phone software felt smooth as anything I've used, kills the G3. The wide selfie cam is pretty cool. Taking pictures side by side my girlfriends S5 showed only minor differences, obviously testing was limited.

The speaker was loud, no bass but definitely loud. The metal trim that's painted partially white is really sexy. The inside of the calculator app is reworked, functions the same but its a welcome visual change.

All in all, it's a damn good phone, makes me miss my Note 3, but if you use a Note 3 and aren't interested in this new display, there's really no reason to upgrade.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] alhadee12:
Did you get an opportunity to use the S - Pen, if so is the functionality better than the N3? I have the S5 and N3?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Rippley05:
Very little because of the cord. I couldn't get the air command window to pop up. I did use it on the (notepad app?) a little. It does feel better than the Note 3, not a HUGE difference, but it just feels like it glides and it's more accurate. Again, I barely used it, but I do think people will be happy with it over the Note 3.

If you guys go check it out, you must watch the pre-loaded video of the people in the city. It's obviously shot with the proper equipment and does not reflect what our own videos will look like, but it just looks awesome.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rushless:
I am not seeing the difference compared to the Note 3 that some are implying. Both displays look great and I have to get overly close to notice the difference from typical usage distance. Then I notice tiny fonts are more legible.

I also do not see the N4 any faster than the Note 3. Both are great fast devices IMO.

What I do notice is there is about 3GB less storage than the Note 3. That is accounting for the 4GB of demo bloat too on the N4. I sure hope that is a demo allocation issue, or the N4 would have at least 3gb less storage out of box. I think it is closer to 4gb MIA.