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[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Tizen will be suicide for Samsung if they totally ditched Android and it's ecosystem for their own (probably woefully inadequate os). They would lose a ton of business. I always laugh when I hear Sammy rumours about them going to Tizen

Currently still using my Note 4 as my daily but may switch back to my Nexus 6 now that LP 5.1 has been pushed out.

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So $1200 for the 128gb Edge? And how much for the 128gb reg S6?

If I were to get one, 128gb is the only option (without the SD slot and 128gb being the only one with the new UFS 2.0 EMMC's inside - performance is nice step up from traditional phone stoarage).

I could get by without the removable battery I suppose but no extra storage is tough. It would be very hard going back to that 5.1" screen coming from Notes and Nexus6.

Amd lastly the Exynos chipset.. Will be huge downside for us rooters and modders with development so non existent with Exynos vs. Snapdragon.

Couldn't make it my new daily but to test and play with for a while.. Sure why not

Currently still using my Note 4 as my daily but may switch back to my Nexus 6 now that LP 5.1 has been pushed out.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
the reg s6 was around 1000 i think...

Plus tax of course.

Not worth it to me.

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
Its a reason I'll most likely be dropping Samsung after the Note 4. I went from Apple back to android. I don't want a Apple wanna be. I already have an iPhone. Don't need a knock off. I hope Nexus gets a nice phablet next year. I think I might go that route.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
I see that AT&T has just released the 5.0.1 update for the Note 4. Anyone on Rogers see an update yet? Why are we always the last to get updates? If I had known that the Note 4 would lag behind on updates like this (beng the current freakin' flagship of Samsung), I would have gotten a different phone.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Yarbo:
Quick question - not sure if anyone has encountered this.

I rooted my Note 4 (from WIND) and installed the latest nightly of CM12 for trltetmo, and everything works great so far except instead of saying WIND for my carrier, it shows "302490"

How can I fix this?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Edit the build.prop

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
Same here brother! I feel your pain. That was actually one of the deciding factors. I thought like for sure it's getting lollipop first. Now i feel like I'll get lollipop on my s6 edge first.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] meboy:
Put the blame where it belongs.

Go complain to Google.

While you're at it, tell them to roll back maps to 6.14.4 when there was zoom buttons and custom maps instead of the pos that is maps today.

Here you go manufacturers. Very new and different from KK so it will take a while to skin for but here is your Lollipop 5.0. No wait there's bugs. Yeah I know you have to start over again but.. Here is 5.0.1. Whoops that one is screwed too. How about 5.0.2? Good? No. Still not.. We'll I know you guys have new flagship phones to launch and all but stay tuned for fixes in 5.1. No sh*t.. Not that one.. 5.2. Maybe..

Wow! Do you have any idea what that bs must have been like for manufacturers?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Rogers or any of us in Can still won't see it for a bit.. Was thinking end of march/early April but who knows.

Definitely not a suppose though! Sammy takes forever first then the slow trickle down carrier by carrier to tweak their crap and Canada usually one of the last.

Seriously? Thought you- see LP soon after release? No one should be surprised at all.

It sucks yes but is expected. Sammy to thanks first and then the typical slow carrier rolling after that...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Colin Marr:
saw the s6's at Pacific Mall last night

saw the S6 models last night in Markham
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
So what do you think? Any feedback? First impressions? Please share.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Colin Marr:
s6's

nimble and responsive, but no play store setup so I couldn't run Antutu... :)

wanted to see if I could really "feel the speed" but hard to do with only standard apps and setup.

I like the aesthetic, but have come from a Nexus 5 and iPhone 5s before that so maybe that's a factor...

I found myself kind of liking that edge and the sidebar it has... no idea why really but it prompted me to buy SideBar Pro from the play store
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Soooo you are saying you should have gotten a different phone because it hasn't gotten an update yet? Give me a break.

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The peppyness blew me away. I kinda really like the S6 regular, the edge is a gimmick and makes the screen look wack. Play with them in person and see what I am talking about.

Very fast phone.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Yeah - I base my phone purchase decision on Development potential - Not on when they're likely to get official updates - ie: if I lived in the US - There's no way that I would get a phone from at&t - locked bootloaders and all..

There's plenty of TW based Roms as well as AOSP Roms to choose from - You never have to wait for a Carrier to release an update.... I've been running AOSP Lollipop for ages and couldn't be happier ?

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
Um, why is that an issue? Just about every other flagship phone already has Lollipop. This is Samsung's current flagship phone (at least until the S6 comes out and eventually the Note 5), so I don't see why it hasn't gotten Lollipop. It's now on AT&T, and in a ton of different countries outside of NA. Why don't we have it yet on Rogers in Canada? Because Rogers is dragging their feet, that's why.

I like the Note 4 a lot and considering it is a new phone and a current flagship, there shouldn't be as much of a wait for the update. I don't think that is too much to ask for.

I'm not interested in loading a ROM or anything. Would like to just stay stock and have them update it just like A&T just did. No reason for the wait.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] 2xbass:
And Bell too...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] awaisuk:
Hi,

I am on BELL HSPA network, and dont have LTE data. I have H+ data.

I have had Samsung Galaxy phones, starting from Samsung galaxy s2, S3, S4 and then Note 4.

The problem I have had on all of those phones is that, my data connection goes IDLE after a little while, and then has to be restarted for the data to start working again.

So, let say your browsing on the internet using data, suddenly the data connection will just stop (No arrow blinking on the icon to show connectivity) and then I need to manually turn off and then on data to make it work again.

I have used Oneplus one, and this problem never happened on that phone. Data was very stable and didnt have to ever turn data on or off.

I have tried to play around with the settings on Note 4, but nothing has worked so far. I have been using the *#0011# or *#2263# combinations to see what is going on. As my phone only runs on WCDMA, I have tried to manually set different WCDMA frequencies in the Service menu, but still the problem remains.

Using *#0011# I can see the current status and bands. When my data goes IDLE and does not work anymore, I went into *#0011# and I noticed that the RRC was RRC:FACH and when it is working it is RRC: DCH.

Any other suggestions on what I can do? I dont know why the data works perfectly on other phones like Oneplus One, but on Galaxy phones I always have this problem.

Advice appreciated.

Thanks.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Are you using a canadian note 4 SM-N910W8?

That seems very odd if you are and if so why not just take it back to bell?

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] awaisuk:
Yes SM910W8. I have tried about 2-3 same model NOTE4 and this issue is present on all of them.

My plan does not have LTE, its is HSPA data.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Your device should still stay on HSPA, very odd.

But i have to ask how/why do you not have an LTE plan?

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] awaisuk:
It is an old plan that I am on, and would like to keep that plan. Its weird that only Samsung devices have this problem.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
Blame Google? Manufactures have had a chance to mess with LP back in July during the TP. This wouldn't be a problem if;

Manufactures did not have the need to install so much bloatware

Manufactures didn't feel the need to destroy the beauty of Android with unoptimized versions of Android.

They didn't wait until the last possible moment to start development then do a half ass job.

They didn't try to keep everything close source.

Finally if they actually understood what a modern mobile OS is supposed to do, instead of being stuck 4 years behind.

Every program or OS will have bugs in it. That is a fact. And yes Google has been rather sluggish at releasing patches, but compared to Manufactures who have had over 9 months to review the code and start building it isn't even comparable.

What I'm saying is, that it is foolish to blame Google when they are not the ones needing to delay updates to pump the OS with trinkets, bloat, half baked features and needing to take every ounce of code they can and make it proprietary.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] meboy:
You're using a note 4... You know all those bloat? Pen features, etc..

Buy a nexus next time. Though if you actually check the history on those you might be surprised.

The 6 has been better so far though.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] trichrome1:
What Roms?

Hey everyone, there are a few Roms around now, and I've been following this forum since the note 4 came out. I was waiting to root my phone to save the warranty and just couldn't run a non rooted phone any longer. Now that I'm rooted, I'm wondering;

1. What Rom are you running?

2. What Kernel are you running? Stock Rom or Custom (which one?)

and if I'm correct, we need to flash T-mobile roms, or is it any rom and just flash a T-mobile kernel?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Sidneymac:
Hey guys have anyone had to repair their screens ? i'm in Toronto and looking for a cheap and legit screen repair.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Yes, it's TMO Roms that are good for our W8 variants but typically a custom kernel has to be flashed to work properly.

Have recently tried FireKat V11 and it's pretty smooth and he even has a specific Canadian variant flashable too.

Staying away from LP roms atm as still a bit to work out. CM12 ok but could be better..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] trichrome1:
would you mind posting a link to the thread?

Search isn't coming up with any results for "FireKat"
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Yep, carriers sure mess things up and take their time but the manufacturers are just as much too blame.... Especially Samsung. They are one of the worst for update delays (only to further defile Android with their TW)

As for LP though Google has to take some blame too. Too much hype and I assume released early as came out..less then perfect we could say. Took time for update 0.1 then 0.2 and finally 1. And all the meanwhile the carriers are like WTF? What do we do? Most will have waited this long only to still be left with bugs as many won't get 5.1 first.

I have a Nexus 6 too. Took a bit to get updates surprisingly and LP at first was buggy. That's why I've stuck with my Note4 in the meantime while it's getting worked out. Will test out 5.1 and go from there.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ultramegax:
Do you have any idea what you're talking about, at all? Multiple manufacturers have released Lollipop already. Hell, Samsung has already released it for other phones in the S series, as well as the Tab S 10.5.

Motorola very quickly pushed out Lollipop. Within days to weeks, depending on your region. HTC hit their 90 day target in Canada. It is a Samsung problem. Not a Google one. Sorry, but you are very far off from correct here. The facts directly contradict everything you are fabricating. Samsung has had access to the Lollipop codebase for a long, long time.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Galaxy Note 4 - Tmobile redirect - Android development

Not sure how you missed it but here it is:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2916463

Been using for couple weeks now and I'd say it's the best one out there for our Note thus far. Great community too! Lots of posts everyday and developer is always around. Great battery life and fast.

I'll likely stay with it and 4.4.4 for a while until LP gets its crap worked out.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
+1

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8 Running SlimLP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Samsung probably the worst manufacturer when it comes to updates and releases and what they release on.. After TouchWiz that's their next biggest problem and ironically their release issues are relates to their slow incorporation of their crap TW skin on top of everything!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] meboy:
Simply not true.

Lollipop could have been faster but in the last two years they've actually been roughly best for updates.

But enjoy complaining. Even if it makes no sense.

Owning a Note 4 and complaint get about TW....
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
I have a Note 4? Holy moly cupcakes! I didn't know that.

Seriously though, that's why I blame Samsung and not google. Surprisingly I never really used TW Spen features. It was cool on day one but not very useful and I think that is the problem. The Note 4 has a lot of cool features but they really feel like gimmicks. Even more so since instead of supporting through APK and the Play store with a compatibility restriction for our phone they baked them into TW. I honestly bought the Note 4 for the screen. Love that screen. So juicy and colourful. Mmmmmmmm.

I was thinking of getting a Nexus next time since I better understand how updates are pushed and how building from source works. Remeber I was "spoiled" by buying Apple products for so long I just got used to getting updates day 1. Still I wouldn't trade my Note 4 for an new iPhone. Nope nope nope.

Ya people should always be happy with what they purchase. Hey, I know! I'll sell you a phone! You'll discover I stuffed it with cat dung! I have a lot of it in a box here. Kinda sandy too. You'll be super happy with it though.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Official software updates and developmental potential are two different things. I don't care for lollipop but care for development. If lollipop came out in october, I wouldn't care. It's all about the hardware.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Simply not true right back at you.. Samsung one of the worst offenders... Period.

I don't care as I root and rom anyways. I was more just adding on or backing up someone else's point.. but it sucks for a lot of people and if anyone wants to defend TW (I think it's crazy but to each their own I guess)

Have fun trolling :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
Posted on Rogers Facebook wall. The exact reply to my post asking when 5.0 would be coming to the Note 4 was "It should be coming soon - hang in there". Uh huh...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zerojay:
If you are seriously expecting some low level social media guy to know when the update is going to pass certification, you are doing it wrong.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Yep that guy probably knows the date about as much as we do

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I used to work for Rogers for several years (Internet side) and have several friends and contacts still there, some with relatively high positions/responsibility on all three side (cable, Internet and mobile) but no luck on something like this. No one can get a LP release date...only exception is a chance a few might catch wind or get info when within a few days of release, etc
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
Nope, wasn't really expecting much, but I like posting out in the open for all to see to pressure as much as possible. Twitter is a great way to do this as well. Wish everyone would constantly call out these Canadian carriers out in the open to pressure them even more.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zerojay:
But pressure doesn't help anything. All it does is piss off people who have nothing to do with it, especially if the update is in certification which is likely the case.

And then when you do get it, you'll complain that it isn't much of a jump.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Not so sure about that - I was tweeting about Jellybean and how slow Rogers was with the update (a number of times) - Rogers was following me - They sent me a Direct Message.... Inviting me to some Product release event - Along with a Concert - lol

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8 Running SlimLP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zerojay:
Which is about all a social media guy can do. If you think that concert sped up a release, you would be wrong.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
I never said (or thought for a moment) that my tweets did anything regarding Jellybean's release...

Rogers just used some PR - Presumably to get me to shut up - lol

It was just kinda funny

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8 Running SlimLP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
I don't believe that pressuring and posts on their twitter as well as facebook page don't help. Companies hate bad press and if multiple people draw attention to the fact that we are still waiting for a software update, it can't make higher ups happy when they look through public image of the organization.

Pissing people off? LOL...yes, they are going to get pissed off and NOT release the update because we are pressuring them. C'mon now...

Complain about the jump? OK, now who is making assumptions without knowing the people involved?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] yobbei:
I tweeted to Bell and they replied Lollipop for note 4 should be ready in April
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
TWRP 2.8.6.0 trltecan update

http://dl.twrp.me/trltecan/

Changelog

http://twrp.me/site/update/2015/03/26/twrp-2.8.6.0-released.html

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8 Running SlimLP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zerojay:
I just got done telling you that the people receiving your abuse have nothing to do with the release so you are making zero sense. I didn't say that whatsoever.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
Well, good for you. You stated that me posting on Twitter and Facebook simply pisses people off. I disagree and it will not effect them releasing it adversely was my response to you. Not sure why you care if I post on their Facebook or Twitter page so much.

I can guarantee you if they continue to get people posting on their public feeds, it will indeed make them look bad and pressure them. It's called "public opinion" and bad press is not something they want.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Funny how much discussion goes on about LP - If you REALLY NEED to have it now - Flash an AOSP Rom until TW 5.1 is available..

And I'm not sure if anyone even noticed the post regarding TWRP 2.8.6.0 trltecan update.... Something useful AND available now...

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8 Running SlimLP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
Or, for those of us who don't want to void our warranty and want to simply keep stock...then we wait and have to bug the carriers to release the update that is available? Anyway...off we go to wait...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] awaisuk:
Hello,

Does anyone know if I can flash a TMOBILE (or any other) Modem over our Canadian SM910W8 model? Will it brick?

I am not happy with modem, and will like to try alternative..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
If you have to flash a different modem - Flash one from another Canadian carrier

But - Have a backup of your current one!

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8 Running SlimLP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
The Canadian carriers have not received the update for testing as far as I've been able to find out. Still have few people high up in tech at Bell and Rogers, and no word from Samsung. I have no idea about the rest of the carriers but if two of the Big Three don't have it, then I highly doubt anyone else will.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
5.0 is finally available as a custom rom for our note 4s. Its a beta and not easy to get running but its being done!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=56822784

If your not an advanced user i suggest not flashing....remember BETA work in progress!

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Rogers likely about the same time as Bell

http://mobilesyrup.com/2015/03/28/s...tm_source=plus.google.com&utm_campaign=buffer

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8 Running SlimLP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dbzgod:
Good to hear, I tweeted Bell a week ago too but they ignored my question which was simular to yours. It's such a hit or miss with them on tweeter.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
We should be able to odin either right though shaggy?

Well if past experiences tells me anything.

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Do you mean Odin TWRP 2.8.6.0 etc?

I know that 2.8.6.0 is Based on 5.1 - So I wouldn't see a problem with that.

http://twrp.me/site/update/2015/03/26/twrp-2.8.6.0-released.html

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8 Running SlimLP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
My Bell guy just got out of a meeting today and they set a tech support training date for April 03 and that the release might be around the 11th. No guarantee though.

My Rogers guy has his thumb up his butt. Has no idea but is going to ask tomorrow when he goes in.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Nah i meant when the LP firmware for our device's gets posted on sammobile. Whether its bell or rogers either should work on an SM-N910W8.

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
I believe so - I've flashed a videotron modem and it worked

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8 Running SlimLP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
Nope. Not yet. I'll stick to CM12 for now.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Wifi is fixed there a new thread now and the rom is based off the intl LP release.

Running nicely for me thus far.

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Of course it worked, when it's the same modem for all. One and only difference for all Canadian firmwares is csc package.

Fact is since sgs3 (starting with sgs4,5,etc,we can't flash other variant modems, due to signature check. We could before.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
sweet

EDIT: Gave it a go and it installed perfectly. Playing around with it right now. Just have to have patience when waiting for it to boot and when setting it up. If anyone else does try this just throw on some youtube or Netflix and relax while you wait. Don't force anything.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Reyland:
I try everything and couldn't get it to boot.