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[Galaxy Note 4 General] zenorth:
[MENTION=2181552]DelBoy[/MENTION], [MENTION=5497742]bladefrost007[/MENTION], [MENTION=5468154]Lodix[/MENTION] & whoever can contribute: here's my post from 3days ago. any chance of looking into it? thanks in advance.

10th October 2014, 11:23 AM | #415

hi, i was wondering if you were kind enough to answer the following:

1-camera's autofocus: do you know if it uses a phase detect system -like the s5 or a contrast detect like the note3/s4? i played with a demo unit and it seemed to focus slower than the s5. the specs just mention autofocus without going further into detail.

2-compass calibration: is the compass still calibrated when you restart your phone or do you have to recalibrate it at every start via the hardware test mode *#0*#. that's an issue with the note3.

3-gps stand alone accuracy while offline: how good/accurate is the gps by itself without cell support? the note 3 was worse than the note 1 in that respect.

thanx for taking the time to answer
[Galaxy Note 4 General] neflictus:
Can you tell us what are the preinstalled apps on Note 4?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] stoobie-doo:
You should be able to see that by looking at the user manuals on the Samsung web site. I know the AT&T model has its manual up and it lists all of the preinstalled bloatware.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] MartinDimchev:
So disappointed from Samsung this year.. It looks like they are shipping only non Snapdragon Note 4 for whole Europe.. And my carrier and country are from the lucky ones... Pretty sure Snapdragon model will be better... Not sure if I am going to buy now...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] geovass:
Where did you read that? The UK is getting the Snapdragon model.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
1. Would not know those autofocus detail. To me, it is autofocus :D

2. Havent tried compass yet.

3. I was using GPS once for now, but with cell support and it was really accurate. I have really never tried without cell support before.

Only Samsung apps, Chrome, Facebook, G+, Instagram. Maybe couple more but disabled them so I dont know clearly.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nanisunil9:
Wth,i thought note 4 was brighter,in phonearena's review,the measure for brightness is higher for note 4 than the s5,how can u say its dimmer?

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In phonearena's review of note 4,brightness measured for note 4 is higher than s5,but u r saying its lower,what to believe? Maybe u r using it in basic mode?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
From GSMarena the S5 is brighter in manual set, but displaymate says that in auto mode the Note 4 can reach 750 nits while the S5 is a bit less.

Also the Note 4 reflect less the light so it is better for sun light.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gtg465x:
Comparing performance in Chrome is good for comparing Android phones because it's the same across all Android devices, and it comes with all Android devices, and it's the most used browser on Android devices. The whole purpose of benchmarks is to find out how fast the hardware is by running the same software on all of them. Throwing in benchmarks from the Samsung browser, HTC browser, and every other Android browser would just confuse results and make it hard to tell which hardware is actually faster.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gtg465x:
Doesn't matter how you read them if you think that Samsung sends special units with tighter calibration, not retail units, to DisplayMate for testing. If DisplayMate buys a retail Note 4 and gets similar numbers to their original results, then I would probably be more trusting of their data.

I went to a Best Buy the other day to check out the Note 4 and the color shift at minor angles was indeed pretty noticeable.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] roryh86:
I know it's an old post, but isn't recent apps supposed to intentionally lag? As you have to hold the menu button for a few seconds to open. and so it knows that you don't want to just use the menu key.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
That's a possibility as this is exactly what happens with the main button. It lags because it's waiting to see if you're going to press it again. Just disable this feature within S-voice options. Anyway around the recent button delay?

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And it's the opposite, it's a recent app button that turns into menu if you long press it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] roryh86:
Exactly. But don't think there is a way around the recent apps lag, probably if Samsung considers the delay too long they would fix it in a firmware update. They would have to adjust the millisecond count before it opens. I don't have a Note 4 yet so I don't really know how it compares to my previous phone, the SGS4. Is it more than the usual?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] CLARiiON:
If you think you know everything, don't buy it. Nobody forced you to buy the phone.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] avenging:
how does he know exactly what types of note 4 units displaymate is testing?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] maksharma231:
Lol the discussion sure is heating up here.

Displaymate or not, i am buying note 4. and screen is definitely better than the previous amoled iterations - that is visible. That's reason enough for me.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gtg465x:
Because DisplayMate published their tests before the Note 4 went on sale anywhere, so we know it wasn't a retail unit. It was an early review unit provided by Samsung.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gtg465x:
Fair enough. I've voiced my opinion, so I will leave now.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowFlare:
The colour shift was definitely there, after it was mentioned in the forums I went back to the Samsung store and viewed it at an angle from the sides. I ran the Sketchbook App so I get white screen, after about 20 degrees, it started showing a shift to blue.

To be honest, when I went there the first few times, I did tilt the screen around but for some reason I did not notice this colour shift. The demo unit is the same one every time I visit the store.

Maybe this is one of Pentile OLED weaknesses. I still like the the screen nonetheless.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ipmanwck:
Can't remember this happening on my Note 3. I have seen too many weaknesses with 2k screens and will probably wait till they improve them especially brightness. LGG3 had a really crappy dim screen. Maybe limitations of these screens currently?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Archiimonde:
Remember the G3 is using an LCD display. The Note 4's display is supposedly consistently better from what I've heard.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
note 3 is blueish even if you are looking straight .
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Wally93:
How does the back cover feel? is it like the note 3 back , the not slippery feeling? or is it smooth?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast:
Guys what about zoom in video mode?

There is supposedly loseless zoom feature, do you have example it working?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
I've just tested it in 1080p mode and there is definitely lossless zoom up to 2x, but no further I think.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast:
So 2x is good also :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
Actually scratch that I'm not sure now as the way I was testing it wasn't reliable!

Will have to wait for someone else to confirm although I still suspect 2x in 1080p, not sure about the other 2 higher resolutions.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Its not smooth, but the grip could be better

I would say it is 1,5x
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ipmanwck:
Hmm. Nexus 6 looks huge compared to N4 Nexus 6 vs Samsung Galaxy Note 4 – phablet compar…: http://youtu.be/5Fn8OnzDO5Y
[Galaxy Note 4 General] lawtq:
Not bad, how do you use your screen brightness? On auto?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
If I use the calculator every time I press something there's a woman's voice calling out each button. Very odd, is anyone else experiencing this?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] FireWall123:
I just noticed it lol

Edit. Are you using greenify ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] 4braid:
Sounds like talkback has been enabled in the accessibility options?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
Not using greenify, have got it set up exactly the same as my note 3. I can just turn the volume down so it's not a big issue, just a bit odd!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
For those that already owns a Note 4, do you feel somehow tempted / slightly regretted about the Nexus 6 announcement? Please don't take this on the wrong way, I'm about to buy one or another and I'd like to hear your thoughts.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bronx:
Nope. S-pen, great design, awesome screen, slightly smaller than n6. No regrets here.. ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jj03:
on second charge...its great. Jumped from an s4.

sent from my galaxy note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] marthinollys:
I'm on Verizon so I have a few more days until my Note 4 arrives. But I had to give the Nexus some thought. In the end I decided against it because I've loved my previous Notes, and have come to insist on the versatility that the Samsung phablet offers. The S Pen features get better and better, and I really must have a removable cover so I can swap batteries and take advantage of external storage. I loved my Galaxy Nexus, and, for a brief moment, I considered buying both the new Nexus and the Note 4. Lollipop looks good but I can wait. You'll be hard pressed to find many nexus fanboys to admit it, but the OEMs they so love to excoriate sometimes get it right.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
I hope samsung keep all Lollipop features... well - not sure how it will deal with material design but... copy/pasting from lollipop page I really expect it to retain this specific features:

Screen pinning: pin your screen so another user can access just that content without messing with your other stuff

Guest user for phones and tablets means you can lend your device and not your stuff

Multiple users for phones. If you forget your phone, you still can call any of your friends (or access any of your messages, photos etc.) by simply logging into another Android phone running Lollipop.

Print preview and page range support

I don't care about wireless charging but, darn I know I gonna miss the Nexus 6 'always listening' if, in the end, I decide to go with Samsung. My colleague got the Moto X (2014) and I think is a really useful feature. I know we can enable it on Note 4 but only for S-Voice and IMHO regarding usability S-Voice doesn't come even close to Google Now. I know there's some dirty tweaks like Tasker and OpenMIC+ to lauch Google Now instead of S-Voice but, well, it's not a proper solution to me. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] marthinollys:
This feature is already on Samsung phones (enable it in call settings).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
Owh! I had a Galaxy S4 and totally missed. I remember using a similar feature on Galaxy Nexus but on CyanogenMod only. Thanks for letting me know.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ipmanwck:
Not that impressed with the note 4 after playing with it today in the 3 Store. Shutter lag the same as all samsungs I owned!! Going to wait for nexus 6, ascend mate 7 or xiaomi note 2.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ninor:
How did you guys get a year of Evernote Premium? I have T-Mobile version and Evernote wasn't even installed... after I installed it... no trace of free Premium.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] MSK1:
Any good?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] MSK1:
Will have to test the screen problems on tilt. ...

I hate pentile and was so glad the note 2 was different. ...

Might keep note 2 over upgrading to note 4.

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Has anyone compared iPhone 6 photos to note 4 in low light?

Note 2 is awful in low light. . Only thing I don't like in note 2.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Evernote came preinstalled on phone. After log in I got 12 months premium.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tld88:
Does it support wifi calling?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Skype and Viber yes :D

If you mean by carrier support. Dont have that in my country so I would nkt know.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
Lock Screen

I am so tempted to upgrade to Note 4 however can someone confirm if Notification show on Lock screen (emails, sms, whatsapp...etc. Notifications) also can I add custom lock screen widgets?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] msavic6:
SMS does show up but the others probably won't on the current software.

If this is really a major concern, Android L will add lockscreen notifications once the Note 4 gets updated in a month or two. There was a leaked video of Android L on the Galaxy S5 and it showcased the lockscreen notifications of Android L.

I suggest you purchase the Note 4 since it will be updated relatively soon.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
Thank you. I just preordered the note 4. One more question is there any lag when using the recent app button?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] webelieveInGodButDoHeinUs:
yes there is lag with the recent apps. intact its not really lag. its just a delay when you press the button 2 seconds later it pops on everything is smooth it just has a delay from the button press
[Galaxy Note 4 General] OnlinePredator:
Wireless charging is supported via a case or small slip under existing back cover, set google now to US and you will get always listening. At least this is how I am doing it on my S4, assume it will be the same for all other phones?

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Never understood this, after the galaxy s4 all pentile arguments are void. Really makes no sense to keep a note 2 instead of upgrading MASSIVELY to a note 4 lol. It's like keeping your CRT because you think it's superior to LCD or OLED.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] MSK1:
Why do u say pentile problems are gone?

Most important feature is screen.... and if screen looks blue you will get annoyed every time. ... Even if it is 0.000001 seconds faster.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Note 2 wasnt pentile but it was bluish. Note 4 whites not even compareble with note 2 im using 6 plus and note 4 together you can only understand white isnt the best but in normal usage you never annoyed from it barely noticable and even better than most lcd display phones like lg g3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
So are you saying your Note 4 screen looks warm? When I *#8*# my screen is perfect, but on auto it starts to go very lightly pink. I compared it to one other display that did the same thing.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] OnlinePredator:
I'm sorry but what?????? The colour accuracy, contrast and don't forget lowest and highest brightness are all better?????? Who cares about all that!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] MSK1:
I have note 2 and it isn't bluish at all. ... not at all. ...

Can u be a bit more clear on your comparison? Ie which are you saying is whitest. ...

Any slight colour changes really annoy me.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] OnlinePredator:
Just remember display mate explained why the s5 and then the note 4 were the best displays of any smartphone. Note 2 is so far behind its not funny.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
I dont sell my old phones so still have my note 2 and definetly not good at whites at all not even close to note 4. Note 2 is more like yellowish/blueish.

Iphone 6 plus is whitest but you can only understand the difference when you put them side by side. Like i said note 4 whites are realy great even better than most lcd displays
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
Does Note 4 support 64 bit and art runtime?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] msavic6:
The Exynos chip is 64 bit capable but it is running in 32 bit mode. The Snapdragon is solely a 32 bit chip.

Both variants support ART.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] MSK1:
Will compare in a store as I have a note 2....

Rumour is that when u tilt the note 4.... It gets a really bad blue tinge....

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Can u get exynos in the UK?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] JCM800:
Well received mine today. (I have a Note 3 already).. And sadly, I'm not really bowled over. The screen although higher resolution, isn't such a worthwhile reason to upgrade.

Then there's the audio - too thin, even thinner than my Note 3 (and that's saying something) made me realise my Note 3 audio isn't that bad by comparison. Note 4 isn't very loud either? Least it doesn't seem it.

Build quality on mine is superb, after 50% it was taking ages to charge, is this normal? It was actually decreasing whilst I was using the phone on charge (Note 3 continually charges regardless)

I'll sleep on it, but think I'm sending it back to Samsung tomorrow.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
It should charge very quickly, even if you don't enable fast charging.

I find the screen to be amazing to be honest, have you viewed 4k videos on it? They blew my mind!

As for audio, you do have a point. However, it doesn't bother me that much as if I do use the speaker it won't be for anything high quality anyway, for that I'll use headphones.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Magnesus:
It's not a rumour, it's confirmed. But the tinge is not bad, it's a slight discoloration, nothing groundbreaking really, some people don't notice it. Apart from that the screen is just amazing. I'd love to have a TV with such screen. The black level is so perfect!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alexcarterkarsus:
well, I don't think raising the cpu frequency or removing the throttle cap can induce the almost double performance, and if you look at this ip6 review from anandtech

the crop of SD 800/801 android phones achieves at best almost double the time for ip6, which is more or less what I get from chrome on my Note 3, so it is not like other android OEMs are much better than Samsung in optimizing chrome...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Here it is:

http://i.imgur.com/UCaOOti.png

http://i.imgur.com/d5VZWVg.png

And here is 3D mark benchmark:

http://i.imgur.com/Yf1DgYD.png

To be honest there is not much. First I need to say I am not Samsung fan, always hated them because Touchwiz, plastic and so on, but this is the second phone I actually like from Samsung. First one was new Galaxy Alpha.

- First thing that comes to my mind is opening the recent apps. That takes few seconds.

- Most hated and irritating thing is lack of menu button. In this position is recent apps button. Considering that 3-dot menu button is always on top of the screen this thing is not handy to use phone with one hand

- I personally dont like preinstalled apps, but thanks to root you can uninstall them. Well not at the moment, but it will come.

- Next thing is Knox, hate it.

- I believe phone could be little bit easier. It is heavy.

- I also dont like bezel around the screen, it is to big. If you look for example G2/G3 left and right side of screen is so thin, but here you have to much space.

- speaker is on not so great position

- battery should be bigger. Huawei Mate 7 have 4100 mAh battery for example
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SAVVAS.:
Yes you are correct, from the above chart it seems everyone is at similar levels. So its due to optimisations (!) from Samsung towards the stock browser.

Now to what I have said before about the higher CPU frequencies when using Samsung browser during Sunspider I still think it plays an important role! I remember when I had N3 that on Samsung browser the Cpu Cores were almost being used at full capacity where as in Chrome only one or two cores at full capacity and the others were at half the frequency. And that's after the new Firmware if I am not mistaken.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Where did you get the N910C version ???
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Connections mate, connections :good:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
I have to say Fastcharge is awesome here.

In 20 minutes 27%. Pretty great for charging.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
At least tell me from which country (?)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alexcarterkarsus:
And also... Is there HDR for 4k video recording? And I know it is not easy, but can you confirm if OIS is working in 4k recording?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] msavic6:
How's battery life looking so far?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
There is no HDR while recording in 4K.

You will get this message: http://i.imgur.com/YahSMFw.png

I believe there is OIS in 4K recording

So far good. 60% of battery got me 4 hours of screen on time. But usage was really high.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alexcarterkarsus:
Thanks... I read that taking HDR photos or low-light night photos is now always almost instant without having to wait for one second or two in Note 3, is this the case?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowFlare:
Slightly off-topic, I noticed on Samsung Site, on the Note 4 specs page, it's saying DLNA is not supported. Do you think any service we may be using previously on Note 3 would be no longer available? Because Note 3 has DLNA support.

I understand the AllShare feature is using Miracast, but not sure what we will be missing out with DLNA capability removed?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Yes, they are pretty instant.

Except if you use flash in low light conditions. In that case it takes 2-3 second to capture the photo.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
I never had a Note before but I'm really excited with the scrapbook feature. Could you please tell if is there integration with Evernote and if is well. Integrated (I mean, like we see on scrapbooks demos but pointing to Evernote).

I saw some worrying comparisons with z3 camera mainly on night shots, what your impressions with night shots so far? Any samples.

Thank you again.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Can you please answer my question ?

Also, which LTE bands support the N910C ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alexcarterkarsus:
huh? wait... on my Note 3 it is the opposite, low light without flash it needs to wait 2-3 seconds with a "processing" dialogue, while with flash it is pretty instant... do you also see the dialogue or the capture just take this long?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] oursoul:
:eek: :laugh:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
I don't see nowhere in Scrapbook any sort of integration.

Here are the two shots of low light conditions under my desk (sorry about the dust :D ). First is without flash and second with flash

http://i.imgur.com/AmdWQg3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Gt9bqKH.jpg

Sorry, but country is not important right now ;)

N910C works on 850, 900, 1800, 1900, 2100 I believe, not sure.

There is a text message "Hold still while the photo is captured" (something like that).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Vangelis13:
Isn't long-press of the recents button = menu..?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
It is, but you have to really looong press it.

Short click should be menu and long recents.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] JCM800:
Mine has colour shift, really doesn't bother me. It's that speaker that's bugging me. Battery I'll leave over night..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] MSK1:
When you say "not bad" start does that mean?. ...

People said the pentile screens were not bad. ... but whenever I see a cursory glance on people's screens. ... i laugh go myself as to why haven't they thrown the screen in the bin. ... they look awful.

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I was really sensitive to pentile screens of past. ... That's why I loved note 2....

Hoping I don't notice the colour shift.

Note 2 also has an excellent speaker (Albeit at the back). Its shocking they have regressed. .. i believe note 3 was worse than note 2 also. ...

Screen and sound are basics. ....

More important than many other features.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] JCM800:
It's true - the Note 2 has a very good speaker.

Note 3 is OK, and my Note 4 I'm angry with. Very frustrated that Samsung skimp on the speaker with every upgrade.

I'm returning mine, those notification sounds grate my ears. YouTube sounds awful. Maybe I have sensitive hearing? But I know my Note 2 speaker blows it into next week.

. Samsung you fools, use the Note 2 speaker...