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[Other SmartWatches] zx81scutt23:
Is it just me or is the wifi on this watch terrible I'm having trouble connecting to the router when I'm upstairs and even if I do I loose connection before I can do anything.

P. S.

Routers downstairs.

Scutty
[Other SmartWatches] elyab:
Never experienced problems with WiFi.... Try to check it with various positions of the strap. For example, GPS antenna located inside the strap and it is very sensitive to how you hold it.

Moreover, I often use the watch as hotspot for tablet/netbook while outdoors. Hotspot works with the same antenna and gives me up to 3 meters reliable signal.

BTW, maybe WiFi-extender or even Access Point on second floor would be helpful :)
[Other SmartWatches] gadget_boy:
Standalone Android also have BT assistant?

As this is stand alone android does it mean that you can't just pair it via bluetooth with your smartphone and recieve notifications from your smartphone and reply to messages etc. I can't seem to find an answer on this....?
[Other SmartWatches] elyab:
As far as I know, there is no remote notification functionality, including BT, provided between

"full" Android OS

smartwatches and smartphones (NOTE: Android Gear OS is a different story as well as various Mentor RT-NucleOS versions).

However, you have an option to use "multi SIM-card" or "split SIM-card", if your mobile operator provides such a service. Although you will have to choose "primary" SIM-card for voice calls, you will be able to use data connection from the same account via both SIM-cards.

Therefore, you will get instant notifications from all installed services (Mail-clients, Facebook, Twitter, Skype....etc.).
[Other SmartWatches] CPGOD:
swapplink app is what you're looking for.
[Other SmartWatches] gadget_boy:
So essentially you have 2 sims, 1 in the watch and 1 in the phone with the same number?
[Other SmartWatches] CPGOD:
Not quite - swapplink installs on both phone and watch, one in master mode. Any form of data connection between the two devices is needed - 3g, wifi or Bluetooth.

All notifications from master are pumped to the slave, with ability to respond.

Check out the omate TS threads or just install the app!
[Other SmartWatches] elyab:
...but if you have 2 SIMs, one in watch, one in phone with the same number - there is no need of any additional app. :)

BTW, Swapplink is the great app!
[Other SmartWatches] CPGOD:
Please see my PM, but don't forget two Sims won't get you notifications from one device to another, only ring on both devices
[Other SmartWatches] elyab:
It is unclear for me what notification I need to push from one device to another when I have my Google account on both devices with Gmail client + POP3, Facebook account installed on both devices, Twitter, LinkedIn and so on... as well as WhatsApp and Viber based on the same phone number. Each app notify me simultaneously on its device what makes additional push between devices just unnecessary.
[Other SmartWatches] CPGOD:
Reading this in conjunction with our PM, you are correct, but are fortunate enough to have a phone provider who allows you to use the same number on two Sims - in many countries this is very rare.

I, and I think the OP, can't take advantage of this, so would have to pay for two data tariffs. So having the push from one phone to watch is our no cost option.
[Other SmartWatches] gadget_boy:
Multi-SIM is an option but it's not the most reliable as sometimes it doesn't reconnect data after you switch SIM's. Swapplink would be the best bet for me. I just wish the watch itself had software to choose between standalone and Bluetooth slave. Anyway, thanks for you help guys!

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Does a SIM card need to be in it to be able to use it?
[Other SmartWatches] elyab:
Yes, it does. Both devices work simultaneously.

Since technically sim-card cloning is very complicated procedure (doubtfully possible for modern 3-4G simcsrds), mobile operator issues you another simcard, connects it to data traffic counter frameworks your mobile plan and configures a kind of operator-level "call forwarding" to the number of your initial "primary" simcard.

Thus, no reconnects needed - both cards work almost independent way although them configured with the same phone number and the same data plan.
[Other SmartWatches] bernsbe:
Gadget_boy, there are 3 kind of kind like watches:

1) smartwatch phones: Those that are stand alone (like this ZGPAX S8),

-they are for people that primarily don't carry another smartphone with them, and are highly portable, wearable all in one devices

2) smartwatches: Those that are companion to a smartwatch (they are more present on the market in various brands, OS'es shapes and formats)

-they are for people that primarily want to avoid taking the phone from their pocket/backpack/purse, are wearable and have relatively restricted functionality

3) hybrid of 1) and 2) - Those that are companion to a smartwatch, but offer basic functionality in case the smartwatch is down/broke/out of battery/absent in other ways

-they are for the same people as 2), and als have relatively restricted functionality in most cases

Question here is: what are you going to use your watch for. If it's just for notifications from the smartphone, then I would assume you are placing yourself more into the 2) category.

Maybe look at this video.

(I follow the video postings of this publisher, as he's using the ZGPAX to show some things that it's capable of doing)

Hope this helps you further in the search for your ideal future watch.
[Other SmartWatches] gadget_boy:
Thanks for your reply. I would put myself in the 3rd category as I want the functionality of a standalone smartwatch if I need it or have the notifications from my smartphone if I choose to. I like the ability to choose at the start of each day rather than having to buy 2 watches. That being said everything electronic related is about compromise, its hard to find any device that does everything everyone needs it to. I wish there was though!!!!
[Other SmartWatches] bernsbe:
In that case, the ZGPAX S8 is probably not what you are primarily looking for. There are hybrid devices that will provide you what you require, potentially at a better price.

There are people who use it as a companion smartwatch for a smartphone, but that's not what it has been designed for.
[Other SmartWatches] gadget_boy:
Any suggestions on which hybrids you would recommend? What smartwatch do you use as a daily driver?
[Other SmartWatches] bernsbe:
My journey of finding a watch phone started with the goals to:

-abandon the smart phone as much as possible

-use a tiny screen for the daily tasks (phone, txt, contact list, calendar)

-use a tablet, at home, for games

-use a PC for heavy duty stuff (writing text, follow on line training, responding on forums etc.)

This means my goal is to use the ZGPAX S8 as a true full usage system.

For the moment, I need my old smartphone to:

-remote control my home theatre system

-use a passkey system that is not compatible with the rectangular screen

-use a walking GPS software (that would probably work on the watch, but I trust my phone better for this kind of thing)

For all other operations, I use the ZGPAX S8 as stand alone system

My advise would be:

Go to the local electronics shop and let the people show you a few models. Build your requirements list and see what's out there.

Maybe include android wear devices in your search.
[Other SmartWatches] Datlas:
Bluetooth headset...

Tried a bunch of headsets, trying to find one or some that work with the S8, along with cruisin, through these forums periodically. At some point, someone said the Samsung HM1200 headset worked, but it is an older model now... As I like new shiney things, I bought a Samsung HM1300, and it works like a charm. Also tried an old Jabra BT125, it worked, but is uncomfortable, and sound quality isn't great by today's standards. Anyways, I wanted to add those to the list of ones that actually work.

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Side note, I replaced the band today on my S8, and when I removed the old one, it had a ribbon cable attached to each side, which have now been broken, as I was not expecting it... Thus far, I haven't noticed anything stop working. Anyone know what thos ribbon cables were for?
[Other SmartWatches] kyone2000:
They are the antennas for the Wifi and GPS.

You cannot replace the bands on these watches with out losing the different radio signals.

I have owned 4 phone watches and every single one of them failed because of the bands. Broken band mean the watch is useless, as a watch.
[Other SmartWatches] lohtse:
not really that useless... they are still functional but without wifi and gps!!
[Other SmartWatches] giol:
The antennas are connected to the board with mini ipx connectors. I have replaced the Gps ribbon antenna (microstrip) with a ceramic one to get better reception. It is also possible to stick the ribbon antenna om the back of the new strap as long as you cover it with a silicon substrate like -well- silicon .
[Other SmartWatches] giol:
Here is a picture. A bit ugly but the Gps is very improved and allows me to run in the city.
[Other SmartWatches] lohtse:
looks like it should be round your ankle!! :D:D
[Other SmartWatches] djmysia:
How long do you catch fix with anntena ?

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[Other SmartWatches] flinkebernt:
Measurements

Could someone who has this watch please help me?

I'm considering buying this watch as a "geek-gift" for one of my kids, and need to know how many cm /inches diameter or preferably circumference the watch has when it's adjusted to its smallest size.

Also, I suppose I can't make extra holes in the strap since the antennas are integrated?
[Other SmartWatches] elyab:
No problem at all. You can punch the strap with at least two additional holes without damaging GPS antenna. Look at pics below....
[Other SmartWatches] colorado_al:
Anyone know where this watch is in Stock? I ordered from gearbest and after 10 days of the watch being in "pending" status, they contacted me that it is out of stock.
[Other SmartWatches] giol:
From cold start it will take 30 to 60 seconds, but the biggest difference is when you run between tall buildings or trees. With the previous antenna I would lose lock almost always in such situations where now I never have a problem.
[Other SmartWatches] djmysia:
Can you send link to store where you bought?

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[Other SmartWatches] elyab:
Try Aliexpress:

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/1-5-Inch-ZGPAX-S5-Watch-Mobile-Phone-android-4-0-MTK6577-Dual-Core-5-0/517881_1596294300.html
[Other SmartWatches] djmysia:
I have this watch[emoji1] I want link to antenna gps.

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[Other SmartWatches] elyab:
I've replied to colorado_al.

Sorry, I didn't quoted his question above...:)
[Other SmartWatches] giol:
Try searching aliexpress or google for "ceramic gps antenna passive". You will get a lot of hits.

I use a 25x25x4 and I soldered the existing ipx cable that was connected to the microstrip to the new antenna. I did not buy mine because I had an old gps tracker lying around and took it from there.
[Other SmartWatches] segadc:
Hey Guys. So I just got this smartwatch with build 1423465185. I am coming from a Callisto 100 which I loved but the lcd screen is almost dead (tons of lines across it). Is there a way to calibrate the screen on the S8? My Callisto was perfect but with the S8 it's way off. I had to use a Bluetooth keyboard just to type on it. If I can't get it working I might have to return it. Thanks!!

edit: My Callisto 100 runs faster/smoother too. Same chip but runs at 1.30 GHz versus 1.00 GHz. Hmm even if I get the screen working I might still return it.
[Other SmartWatches] SteveH4263:
Gearbest Zgpax s8 pre-sale

Strange I just ordered one on August 29 2015. It's a pre-sale. Might want to check back with them. Just wish it had a updated rom for it to Lollipop. I wonder if the team at cg could make custom rom for it on android 4.4.
[Other SmartWatches] segadc:
I got mine from Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YRXY4EY
[Other SmartWatches] lohtse:
Hi folks I posted this in the K8 thread but thought those with the S8 would love this..

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=62616723&postcount=100

So here's what to do

1)Disabled the lockscreen clock faces

2)Installed nova launcher(or similar but nova works) and have a page on the desktop completely clear and no icons other than app tray at bottom

3)Installed this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.watchFrenzy.lwp (we have pro version)

4)Go to either or both of these

https://www.watchawear.com/watches/watch-faces.html

http://facerepo.com/app/

5)Copy to watch import using watchmaker live and set as wallpaper...

6)In power menu make sure you enable expanded desktop reboot..

hey presto as may watch faces as you wish and to suit you mood etc... ANd you could install the wallpaper app on your tablet or phone and design watches yourself to suit your personal needs.

Photos are my S8 and been using this setup for since I got the S8.... And I would suggest you use an app to freeze the default launcher, I used Titanium...
[Other SmartWatches] lohtse:
does anyone know what is the latest ROM for the S8 as here http://www.needrom.com/category/others/watches-others/ theres two and thought my S8 had the newest but seems there's a newer one......

A list of current versions in correct order would be useful.
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
Can you tell me how many pages you configure at NOVA? I tried as you write but have clock face background in all pages!

Can you help please? Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] elyab:
As far as I know:

Build 1417513043 (from 01/30/2015) is the latest official ROM for watches with older 1.3MP-sensor camera version (I have this one).

Build 1417435277 (from 6/16/2015) maybe the latest for watches with newer camera version (2MP-sensor) - although I'M NOT SURE.... If so, keep in mind: flashing this ROM you gonna loose your camera....
[Other SmartWatches] lohtse:
I have three... but started with ONE.... really is upto you......

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mines build 1426144584 with 2mp camera

so where does mine fit with these??
[Other SmartWatches] elyab:
Obviously you have the latest ROM (higher build number).
[Other SmartWatches] lohtse:
LOL very DUMB moment...:angel:

too many hours on duty!!!! Sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep required
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
I want to have clock face only at home page... How do you "lock" clock face in one page?

Mine apear in all pages...

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] lohtse:
just have one page and NO other icons other than one that allows access to app draw.... if you look at photo with watch face you will see just one icon and thats to app draw...
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
OK... I understand now!

But is not wath I want... I need pages of Nova launcher because need some others widgets like WiFi, BT,....

So is not solution for me. Would be great if is possible to add more "really" lock screns! :)
[Other SmartWatches] lohtse:
so why would having a pages with widgets with clock behind be an issue??? I have three pages and middle one is blank and works perfectly!!!
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
I tried an a Tablet and is not good... icons are barely visible... I will try a watch. Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] lohtse:
what icons are barely visible?

Icons on my S8 are very visible as are widgets

going left to right in the photos it shows how my s8 is set up...

first photo is a widget

second photo is my middle page on the desktop.

third photo is apps and in the middle is a widget

last photo is the app draw showing the first page of 11!!!!

sorry about the dark photos taken in a hurry
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
Look at tablet. very confusing with no plain background.
[Other SmartWatches] lohtse:
lol

now look at my setup..... ONE page is empty.... have that as the actual main home page and then add pages with widgets... and swipe to them... then when you turn screen on you have a clean watch face an nothing more.. swipe left or right to access your widgets...
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
Yes, I understand idea... at home screen is ok, but at left and right pages are not too clear I like.

I will try this night... :)

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] lohtse:
try more pages with a few widgets in the corners.....;):p
[Other SmartWatches] elyab:
For testing only, I've tried another trick to get custom clock face on S8.

1. Disabled system Lockscreen (Settings->Personal->Security->Sceen Lock->None)

2. Installed BIG Launcher, created several screens and configured one of them with 1 X 1 Button layout (got the screen with single fullscreen button).

3. Configured this button with Android-stock Clock widget instead of application-link (BTW, feel free to download & install a lot of beautiful custom clock-widgets from Google Play):

4. In addition, configured layouts of another screens to 2 X 4 to get big comfortable buttons:

... or even this (I would never miss such a button :) ):

So, you just stay on clock-widget screen when each time you switch screen off. Next time you switch it on - you will see your custom clock face/widget. "As simple as it gets!" (C) :)

Still didn't install X-posed or similar app to keep Notification panel available... so returned back to stock launcher for a while.

But this way definitely works :)
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
Look... don't like at all...
[Other SmartWatches] franjo17:
I've ordered mine from gearbest on 28/8- still processing...

questions:

is it possible to manage watch without SIM card, only with bluetooth? i saw somewhere that there is an app that allows it, but does it work?

does play store work with original sw?
[Other SmartWatches] lohtse:
your missing the point I guess....

I am happy with my setup and every ones different...

What I have shown is a way to have as many watch face choices as you wish... And away to have them displayed when you turn screen on.....

When I turn my screen on I get an uncluttered watch face which is what I want as the S8 is a watch after all.. I then scroll left or right to use a widgets.. and then access everything else through the app draw!!

Like I said we are all different so whats right for one may not be right for others...

I just provided ONE solution to replace the watchfaces pre installed that are very lacking in design and functions
[Other SmartWatches] arp:
Yes, I understnd your point :)

I can have home page with a "clean" watch, but don't like the others pages with that background.

Is a way... maybe only way... But for me, was great can replace/add more faces to original watchfaces because I like have a watch as a lock screen, and then have a mobile when unlock it.

Thanks by your help :)
[Other SmartWatches] terrycharlie:
Dear All,

I'm Taiwanese.

Recently, I buy S8 and I'm the new user for this watch.

I have some question and need you help, please help me !!

1. How to root it ? (I downloaded "kingo root" but can't success and I also try root master ..get the same result.)

2. I often use "Run Keeper" to record my running, but S8 can't GPS success, How can I do ? I also found that if choosing only use GPS, it can't success on google map or any other app. If choosing both of wifi and GPS, it can success on google map, but can't success on "Run Keeper"

I really need to know how to root, then maybe I can follow the steps to fix GPS.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56160495&postcount=53

Please help me !!!
[Other SmartWatches] djmysia:
You can do root by APP kingo root. GPS is very poor and more antenna. After do root you can download APP faster GPS from play store and change file gps.conf for your country. The first time gps catch fix about 15 min. You have to turn on 3g and date. Try sygps from play store.

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[Other SmartWatches] terrycharlie:
Thanks for your reply !!

But I had already try to use kingo root to root, but got FAIL.

I will keep trying.

But first I need to know how to find the gps.conf and change my country ? use "RE file management" or "Ex file management" ?

BTW...I searched sygps on the Play Store, but can't find it.
[Other SmartWatches] elyab:
Kingo Root via PC should work. Ensure you have USB debugging option enabled and the watch properly connected to PC by USB cable.
[Other SmartWatches] terrycharlie:
Kingo Root via PC stil can't, but I found that "wondershare mobilego" can success root S8.

Now..who can tell me how to improve GPS ?
[Other SmartWatches] djmysia:
What ? Kingo root via PC work very well with S8.

You can improve GPS this . http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=62515294

You can do root by app kingo root. GPS is very poor and more antenna. After root you change file gps.conf for your c

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[Other SmartWatches] terrycharlie:
the address http://. http://forum.xda-developers...php?p=62515294 can't enter into....

I think you provide wrong address..

And I don't know why my S8 can't use Kingo Root to root..but now I root success by "wondershare mobilego".

I think maybe it is because the firmware is different!!

My S8 firmware version : S8 S8 ALPS.KK1.MP7.V1.51426144584
[Other SmartWatches] lohtse:
am same firmware as you and kingroot worked fine.... sometimes it takes a couple of attempts but kingoroot works
[Other SmartWatches] jasonace7:
Hello,

Since a day ago i found out about this full android watch and i was very interested in the ZGPAX S8 ,

I wanted to buy this watch cause on youtube videos you see everyone very happy with it and saying it can do everything cause it is full android.

I am a person that makes apps for myself for android (not to sell, just 4 fun), though i am not a person that likes to root and that kind of stuff.

I have an (old) android phone to test my apps on it, but i prefer iphone because it feels more stable for me.

Now is my question: Do you guys recommend this device to a person who wants to use it out of the box and no rooting and all those techy stuff. i always wanted a smartwatch that could play apps but i didnt want to have an android phone also.

I want to have my iphone with me and this watch.

Sry for asking too much but i just want to be sure :)

Thanks :laugh:
[Other SmartWatches] elyab:
Hi, jasonace7!

ZGPAX S8 is actually fully functional Android 4.4.2 smartwatch. Framework its small screen size limitation and 512MB RAM it's able to run almost any android app you install.

Take a peace of paper and draw 1.54" rectangle on it (note 240X240 pixel resolution). Imagine: this will be your display!

Also keep in mind, that you will have very limited battery capacity for significant system activity....

To be honest, it takes a couple of minutes for my eyes to re-focus themselves after continues use of the watch.....:cyclops:

But, anyway, I like the watch!:)
[Other SmartWatches] lohtse:
Great little device..

Had battery issues at first and was getting around 6 hrs use but now after deleting the possible app that was the cause am getting upto 60hours will light to general use...

Don't really use the S8 as a phone one use wifi for data...

I have around 100 apps installed from better camera to mapping apps and really do like it...

Just keep in mind this is supposed to be a WATCH;) give that and the FULL android system you can't go wrong...
[Other SmartWatches] jasonace7:
elyab & lohtse Thank you very much for this great awnser!

You guys really helped me decide better, now i am thinking about buying it from dx/eu dx.

The only thing i am still looking up on internet is that i live in the netherlands and need to pay tax (or something) if the price is higher than 22 euro's (if it gets caught by customs or i dont know how you call it in english).

i've heard about sending it as gift.

but i am still looking for it.

Also for the watch, i want to keep a batterypack with me so i can charge when i am not home.