yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Questions and Answers] Meep70:
I get that, but sharing privately among those who ARE technically inclined would certainly help. Also, a clear disclaimer and proper moderation of Dev threads would go far to mitigate problems, by cutting the whiners off at the pass. For example: "This is experimental, and at your own risk. If you brick your phone, it sucks to be you. You have been warned."
[General Questions and Answers] mingolianbeef:
That works 5% of the time with whiners. While I would love to see what the exploit is like, I definitely understand the fact that if they release temp root, then it still won't change the fact that the bootloader is locked, which means no system r/w access. You can have root without it's benefits. And for them to say they are putting it in a more user friendly setup, it must be pretty complicated now, because UF on these kinds of devices on XDA usually consists of some command line work lol
[General Questions and Answers] Meep70:
Proper moderation=booting/banning those who request support on a Dev thread. Problem solved. We have rules to that effect, already in place.

A device can be rooted, with all root benefits, and still have a locked bootloader. The Caveat is that with the bootloader locked, there's no custom recovery, and no easy way to do custom roms, though, I have seen custom roms posted for MTK devices, even with a locked bootloader and stock recovery--yes, it CAN be done.

I was using DOS, before DOS knew what a hard drive was, and am fairly proficient in a Linux shell, as well. Command line is not scary. It could well be that some fresh eyes on a script that is being worked on could help streamline which command goes where, and make it work.

Providing excuses why it CAN'T be done is in no way solving the problem. What will solve the problem is throwing out ideas and testing them--even if they sound absurd, or historically "that hasn't worked in the past."
[General Questions and Answers] Vyrus69:
From what I gathered, I wouldn't even call it a temp root...flash root maybe? Blink of an eye root?

This phone has been a challenge for some people I'm guessing, and they don't want to be defeated. This phone will be rooted one way or another.
[General Questions and Answers] mingolianbeef:
Let me be more specific then, please

Let me elaborate then, wouldn't want this coming off as "making excuses." Allow me to be more specific
[General Questions and Answers] Mistress_Sin:
I paid 200 with mine with new service. I'm pretty sure I got ripped off. I told the guy that I thought the phone was $99 he told me with the 200 prices was activation fees and such. I should have contested or went somewhere else. I'm so weak:(
[General Questions and Answers] therealduckie:
Problem is --- how do you delineate between the knowledgeable and the Beggers?
[General Questions and Answers] Shlickwilly:
As far as I know the only true developers working on this are jcase and maybe his team. If you look into his work you'll find out that he offers a software script/app on a pay basis to root phones. It is my belief when he finds a way to permanetly root the phone he will add it into the existing application he offers. He has stated that he offers no information about progress and when it is completed it will just appear if I was in his situation I'm sure I would do the same if there are any other developers working on rooting our phone at the moment I am unaware of it
[General Questions and Answers] mingolianbeef:
Wow... I didn't know people still seriously charged other people to root their phones...
[General Questions and Answers] ph37rd:
That is what's known as opportunity cost in the finance world.
[General Questions and Answers] Lesharoturbo:
If you got it from metro, there is usually an activation fee and first month due to front. Depending on the plan and taxes, it could get closer to $200 out the door
[General Questions and Answers] therealduckie:
Can we get clarification from a reliable source that jcase charges for root? That sounds odd...and against the ToS of the site.

EDIT: jcase is a moderator of these forums. I doubt the veracity of those claiming jcase charges for root. Every tool I looked into that he created was offered up for free to the community.

So, let's not jump to conclusions...ONCE AGAIN.
[General Questions and Answers] Shlickwilly:
This is there current offering theroot.ninja IMO they do the work and paid out the cash for a dev phone and he has every right to get something in return for his/ there efforts.
[General Questions and Answers] therealduckie:
I don't disagree, as his work is proven, but all this assumption and foreshadowing is poppycock.
[General Questions and Answers] mdabeezy:
Even if he did he deserves it! When root comes I will happily throw a 20 to the team!
[General Questions and Answers] mcknixy:
+1

That's $41 so far
[General Questions and Answers] therealduckie:
There is already a reward thread. It's up to about $500+ US.
[General Questions and Answers] mcknixy:
Link?
[General Questions and Answers] therealduckie:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3000178
[General Questions and Answers] moosiemooses:
In for a nifty fifty and a honey hundred for temp root now:)

Who needs to reboot?
[General Questions and Answers] 4NDROID4LIFE:
Sunshine costs 25

---------- Post added at 01:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:24 AM ----------

The droid turbo has a $10k root and bootloader
[General Questions and Answers] mingolianbeef:
Sometimes it amazes me how much money floats around XDA lol
[General Questions and Answers] Vyrus69:
Wow that's crazy the size of the bounty out there for the Droid Turbo.

If a mass market phone like that still doesn't have root, thats just crazy that Moto and Verizon lock down their phones so much.

But I have hope for our little corner of Android heaven as we will get something very soon.
[General Questions and Answers] mingolianbeef:
Lol we are with T-Mobile, there is hope
[General Questions and Answers] 4NDROID4LIFE:
So what is the current state of this device?

Root is achievable in an app being worked on?

Unlockable bootloader coming in the form of an ota? Are these truths z rumors or blatant lies?

What's everyone's thoughts on these subjects. And GO!!!!!

Sent from my D850 T-Mobile SIM
[General Questions and Answers] RaiderWill:
Really..?

Could not believe I was quoted from this thread.. :cool:

I returned this device within my 14 day remorse period ( Whew ) and purchased a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 several months ago.. I can't believe root is still not obtained almost a half-year later..

Hats Off for sticking with this device under these conditions.. :good:
[General Questions and Answers] mingolianbeef:
In reference to the app... Yes

Unlockable bootloader: The most concrete answer I can give would be in the context of which this statement was made: "(paraphrase) I am waiting on a file from the engineering team", engineering is in charge of bootloaders, so this "file" is presumably the BL file. Here again just using context clues lol. As far as the OTA, take it with a grain of salt. Not because the guy that said it is a poor source or anything, but because ZTE doesn't have their stuff together. Every branch is clicking on different cylinders. ZTE CN told me that what he said was untrue when I inquired and that they had no knowledge of it, but if he talked to ZTE USA and they are planning that, then it shows you how out of sync they are. It would be even worse if ZTE CN was who we both contacted. Their consensus isn't even department wide.

Thoughts? Its cool because im used to mainstream phones while 10s of thousands of users wait on five guys to crack the code. I like the fact that despite the nay sayers, every time we lose one user, we gain two more ready to shell out emails, tweets, bounty money, etc. In an effort to achieve this. If you did something as simple as tweet or something as major as actually root the darn thing, this cooperation will get us what we want and more. Then again, I'm into that sort of stuff, so I may be the only one who sees slow progression that way lol
[General Questions and Answers] richm052569:
Anyone tried this? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1886460. I used this method successfully on a MetroPCS Kyocera Hydro Life recently, with grand success
[General Questions and Answers] brandonlee96:
it dont work i tried it
[General Questions and Answers] nathand.95:
Just talked to ZTE and...

This was the response I got. Basically, no Lollipop, and no bootloader.

You said:

I was wondering if ZTE has any ETA for the Android 5.0 Lollipop update?

Rachel said:

I am sorry to inform you that,there is no relevant information available to provide you with at the present time from us and to avoid inaccuracy and confusion, please feel free to check with us or your service provider periodically for updates. If this should become available, it would be posted on our website, or you would be informed by your service provider.

You said:

Okay...

You said:

And what about the bootloader? I've heard that would be unlocked soon?

Rachel said:

Really sorry to inform you that modifying the programming on your phone through rooting will void the manufactures warranty on your phone.

You said:

The thing is, the phone was bought outright and I have no insurance on it, so warranty really isn't something I care about *laughs*

You said:

I mean, it is a $99 off-contract phone after all

Rachel said:

I am sorry, being the manufactures we do not support any rooting.

You said:

Well that's a disappointment.

You said:

Thank you, though

Rachel said:

I do understand your concern and I am sorry, I wish I could offer you something else, but as a customer service agent this is out of my hands.

You said:

I do understand, that, it's not your fault. It's just not fair of the company to block a customer from doing something to a phone they've paid for in full, you know?

You said:

But I know it's not your fault. Thank you.

Rachel said:

Yes, I do understand that. But we are through your service provider. We manufacture the phone as per the service provider request, because the device is sold through them.
[General Questions and Answers] T3mpr1x:
Yeah since there is no publicly-available root method for this phone yet, the update is likely a bug fix or something else not related to root exploits.
[General Questions and Answers] stinkbud:
Gonna need a new phone to enjoy that NFC. I've had NFC since my GS3 and never used it once. Now that I get a phone without it I am sure all kinds of cool NFC stuff will become available.
[General Questions and Answers] nikkdotcom:
My goal is to use a few different guides as reference and create an ignition system for my car with NFC tech using a RaspberryPi.

There are many many many uses for NFC that have nothing to do with a cell phone. NFC is a nifty technology.

You can program it to do virtually anything with the right hardware. NFC just activates a function. That's all it really does. So the NFC chip in my hand can be used for anything really.

I just want to walk into a store and pay with my hand using NFC and scare the crap out of people.

Gotta have dreams right lol
[General Questions and Answers] T3mpr1x:
What's battery usage say? My phone recently had some drain, but it was because I had enabled SMS over IMS via the phone hidden menu...Flipped that back off and the battery calmed down. Currently sitting pretty with 87% battery remaining after over 8 hours off the charger! It's only day two though, haha.
[General Questions and Answers] gottago:
I am looking to move back to Android from WP8 so I can run Uber and Lyft at the same time. Is anybody successfully doing this on the ZMax? Does it lag or stutter when doing so? I am asking because the RAM and processor seem light when compared to other phablets. Yet, the price and the above comments are drawing me closer and closer to the ZMax. TIA
[General Questions and Answers] T3mpr1x:
2 GB is plenty, it should run both of those just fine. I have never used either app, but all the applications that I had on my old phone have been loaded onto this, and it's smooth.
[General Questions and Answers] michael_ta315:
literally just did a blinded purchased on this phone today. Probably one of the best blinded purchased I've ever made. The phone is AMAZING for what it is. Big screen, big battery, decently solid performance (thanks Google).

But discovering lack of root just turned me off SOOOO much. Ughh. Wish someone would look at the potential of this :D
[General Questions and Answers] Planterz:
How's the LTE coverage in Mordor?
[General Questions and Answers] SuperSeanic:
I just got the zmax a few days ago. First phone on T-mobile, decided to switch after doing a test drive and loving the fact that I can get LTE almost anywhere (formerly on Sprint).

But anyways, I really like this phone. For some reason it feels even faster than my HTC One M7 that I had on Sprint.

Did anybody figure out how to turn off the screen-on for new messages?.. It's really annoying because it'll turn on inside my pocket and start activating stuff.

can't wait for root.
[General Questions and Answers] ubigred:
Any one tried Baidu root?
[General Questions and Answers] T3mpr1x:
Welcome! Regarding messages, use a different app. My current favorite is Textra. You can tell it to keep the screen off if a new text comes in.
[General Questions and Answers] michael_ta315:
It's not so good now some midget just threw a ring down our power generator. Now the tower isn't transmitting anything. :(
[General Questions and Answers] nikkdotcom:
Trying now, what the hell, right? Lol
[General Questions and Answers] ubigred:
Right lol

Sent from my SGNote 3
[General Questions and Answers] nikkdotcom:
Didn't work :(

We aren't going to be able to one click root. Other ZTE root methods I've seen involve .IMG files etc.
[General Questions and Answers] hoodred:
Both Best Buy and Walmart selling it for $199.99 and T mobile store i went into said they will price match.

Here are the links

Best Buy and Walmart

Both Walmart and Best Buy run on T-mobile network.
[General Questions and Answers] bryanizmir:
Both are out of stock online already :) Maybe all the xda devs specializing in bootloaders and root exploits bought one.
[General Questions and Answers] nikkdotcom:
One can only hope :)
[General Questions and Answers] RaiderWill:
Time To Say Farewell...

Well Recepo... I'm somewhat sorry to say your statement applies to me.. :cool:

In my 11th Hour.. I decided to return my ZTE Zmax. :(

It's not that I do not have faith that root access will someday be achieved.. But I've fallen in love with the Galaxy Note 4.

After watching all the videos on it's hidden features ( Gadget Portal on Youtube and Ricky the android guy are the best ) I had no idea the Note 4 has reached this level of technology.. The 50+ Tips & Tricks Gadget Portal shows pushed me over the top.. It's 2015 technology personified. :cool:

It's been nice reading everyone's post and I truly hope you all get your forum, root and roms

The Zmax is one hell of a device.. Good Luck to you all ! :good:
[General Questions and Answers] radfreak:
Are you sure? The ZTE ZMax has the same internals as the ZTE Max on Boost Mobile and Kingo works on that device.
[General Questions and Answers] therealduckie:
A CSR is NEVER a reliable source. Always speak to someone in authority or management.
[General Questions and Answers] Mistress_Sin:
As someone who does what that CSR does for work I can tell you that we are the last to ever find out anything. No way would someone at our level find out until most likely the day this changes occur. Nor could can we do anything of any importance besides escalate your issue to a different department.
[General Questions and Answers] DroidHackalot:
Lol

THE ZMAX WILL RISE!!
[General Questions and Answers] brandonlee96:
how can i delete this reply
[General Questions and Answers] brandonlee96:
i love my setup
[General Questions and Answers] DroidHackalot:
You can't really delete just edit.

THE ZMAX WILL RISE!!
[General Questions and Answers] tech_yeet:
I made a subreddit for the Z MAX on reddit...

Every body go check it out, if you know to redesign a subreddit or have experience with CSS please come be a MOD and make the sub look more friendy inbox me my name is psvitantifail2...

http://www.reddit.com/r/ZTEZMAX/
[General Questions and Answers] therealduckie:
Challenge accepted - Subreddit is now themed.
[General Questions and Answers] Reallionare:
I just looked at the work, it looks much better...
[General Questions and Answers] wroigo:
OTG cable

Has anyone gotten an OTG cable to work on this device?
[General Questions and Answers] therealduckie:
No. OTG cables are not compatible.

Perhaps after root we can dig in and try to enable it, but out of the box they are clear it doesn't work.
[General Questions and Answers] Hue Jaynuss:
wrong

Actually I got my z max to work with a usb controller using an otg cable. So yes it's compatible with otg
[General Questions and Answers] therealduckie:
I specifically bought 3 different types of OTG cables last year to test multiple devices for a site I used to write for. I know how OTG works.

That said. I tried all 3 cables using different combinations of cord and plug. I also used a USB key, USB drive, USB game pad and Logitech rumble pad.

None of them worked.

I then contacted ZTE and they said this phone does not have OTG support.

So, I am curious what you have working, which cord and plug it is using and what capabilities it has.
[General Questions and Answers] vons01:
I got otg to work with a USB mouse but no thumb drives or other storage devices
[General Questions and Answers] Hue Jaynuss:
Radio shack otg cable:good:
[General Questions and Answers] therealduckie:
I asked what you have working, which cord and plug it is using and what capabilities it has. Radio Shack sells many different types of OTG cable. Which one? Does it have the long or short connector? What devices work on it?

Can you expand a bit?

Also, are you using an app to map the buttons from your controller? If so, which one? If not, which controller?
[General Questions and Answers] Ranger1189:
apps to sd

Is there any way to move any apps to sd? So far I haven't found any way to move any app.? Hopefully this thing will get root soon!
[General Questions and Answers] ph37rd:
I'm curious If the OTG Y cables would work, or is it a kernel issue. If the MAX is like my N4, it does not provide power through the USB port. Using the Y cables with a kernel supporting OTG, I've not found anything not working.
[General Questions and Answers] Hue Jaynuss:
Check out pen island .com :D
[General Questions and Answers] therealduckie:
Not falling for it.
[General Questions and Answers] 4NDROID4LIFE:
+1

Sent from my D850 T-Mobile SIM
[General Questions and Answers] Hue Jaynuss:
U can format ur sd card to fat32.. then cut and paist the obb files of ur big games using es file explorer from sd card 0 (internal) to sd card 1 (external sd) . It might slow down ur games a bit depending on ur sd card. U can also use 64 or 128gb sd cards using this method. Just format the sd card to fat32.;)
[General Questions and Answers] Lesharoturbo:
I also got a mouse to work, a Logitech wireless mouse. I also got an AZIO wireless keyboard to work with OTG My USB sticks light up and flag like they are being accessed, but I can't locate them in file explorer
[General Questions and Answers] Hue Jaynuss:
The Obb files folder is located under the android folder in ur sd card
[General Questions and Answers] tech_yeet:
I some one give me there T mobile unlock code?

Because I did feel like waiting 14 days...
[General Questions and Answers] therealduckie:
For those of you claiming OTG works, are you on TMO or METRO?

Also, Hue still hasn't answered any of the questions posed.
[General Questions and Answers] Lesharoturbo:
Mine is Tmo. I just tried it again, post update, and it still works for me.

I will try my sons phone, his is metro.

His works with the mouse and also appears to be accessing the USB stick

Oh, I have a generic cable from Fry's
[General Questions and Answers] vons01:
I on tmo
[General Questions and Answers] Reallionare:
Hello, exactly was is otg?
[General Questions and Answers] kardeef:
On The Go ,it basically gives you a USB port on the end of the cable you can plug in a USB hub or device.
[General Questions and Answers] Hue Jaynuss:
Metro z max. Ps3 rockcandy usb controller. No configuration needed. Unless using emulator you'll need to map the buttons:fingers-crossed:
[General Questions and Answers] TecheTag:
I have 1 of those OTG cables got mines from Amazon for $4... Very useful..
[General Questions and Answers] StonerSteve420:
What is the possibility of this phone getting a waterproof case?
[General Questions and Answers] TecheTag:
I just purchased the black wallet case it's nice to see my money and my phone in the same place
[General Questions and Answers] flablitz:
Just wanted to throw it there my price since unseen a few others. The metro website lists at 99$ with mail in rebate. I got mine from a metro authorized dealer without the rebate for 117$ 167$ with 50$ promo plan out the door with case and screen protector.

My main thing about not having root is I want to tether. Is there a no root tether that works with this phone?
[General Questions and Answers] perrisiam:
you don't need root to tether, just get june fabrics pda.net which will allow undetectable tether, you can try it for free but can't go to secure sites, the paid version is the best investment I have made as far as apps
[General Questions and Answers] mussio:
I've been using easytether with no issues at all ... using it on Ubuntu to watch Netflix and Hulu no prob... I've always had probs with disconnecting on other devices but on the ZMAX none.
[General Questions and Answers] StonerSteve420:
No luck on a waterproof case huh??
[General Questions and Answers] flablitz:
Right, I understand that part, but thanks for the reply. I should have explained myself a little better. I need to WiFi tether really and havnt found 1 that works without root. I'm trying to accomplish a few things.

Let my sons tablet and phone to connect to it for Netflix and YouTube.

Mainly the next.

My wife just rent to owned a Toshiba 50L3400u TV and of course with WiFi I can do a variety of things. Mobile Hotspot(not on my plan) connects the TV, but ofc doesn't actually have internet connection. I've tried plugging the phone in USB, but no mass storage option on phone (I tried MTP). I was hoping something similar to ftp or some type of folder view. I have Mediashare. It supports IMG, music and videos USB. All I have to work with right now is the TV my phone and a non WiFi desktop. No VGA cord or I'd do it like that. Possible to USB tether to desktop and go from Ethernet port to TVs Ethernet port? It has the option for wired or wireless connection on TV. I know this is a lil a bout phone support and TV support, but I know there is a lot of helpful and knowledgeable people here at the XDA community.

Extra note The TV is a POS and am trading it in. Only good thing about RTO programs. Was just trying to watch Netflix tonight.
[General Questions and Answers] kardeef:
I know if you go to settings you can't elect WiFi hotspot,but if you put down the notifications and select the icon on top right if you select WiFi hotspot it will come on.metro zmax
[General Questions and Answers] mingolianbeef:
Like everything else lol, not impossible but very unlikely. Unless the phone really picked up traction, I don't a manufacturer would invest those kinds of resources, but anything is possible.

I just looked on Amazon, didn't see anything
[General Questions and Answers] Hue Jaynuss:
hmmm...

U can always waterproof ur phone as long as u don't plan to swim with it. http://www.liquipel.com/ <<==== :D
[General Questions and Answers] flablitz:
As mentioned above I tried that. The tablet, phone and TV shows connected, but none gets internet. The phone actually shows the T-Mobile hotspot page.