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[Other SmartWatches] webman2k:
So it looks like there is a problem with Gravity Box - don't know if any of you are seeing this as well. With Gravity Box active, and extended desktop on (so we can get the status bar on different launchers), I get a black nothing on the bottom half of the in-call interface. This only seems to be affecting incoming calls. Essentially, I can see the name and number with the blue sparkly background on top, but below that, where there's usually the large hangup button and the call controls - just black. I can press in the right areas and hang up, pull up the keypad, but while in the call screen the whole bottom half is blocked out. Especially annoying about this is that bluetooth can be wonky at times, and I can't pull up the audio menu to route it correctly.

I originally though it might be Nova Launcher, so I went back to stock launcher, but with gravity box enabled. Same result. Deactivated gravity box and all is normal. Tried using third party call UIs (like Full Screen Caller ID HD and the like), but none of them support a dial pad, so no go there.

The status bar tweak was the ONLY thing set in gravity box. So that needs to be off now, meaning I can't use any custom launchers (really liked Nova on this device). Boo, but not the end of the world. App Settings is still active with no problem with the call UI. Just wanted to post this in case anyone else saw this behavior.

Aside from Gravity Box, anyone know another alternative with status bar visibility options?
[Other SmartWatches] Zaiaku:
Looks as though my battery refuse to charge any more. Anyone know where I could get a replacement battery?
[Other SmartWatches] janek69:
By a ZGPAX S5 battery and disassemble.
[Other SmartWatches] digiworld:
Did you change your micro SDcard?

If so, maybe you have unnoticed lose wiring. Open your SW and push some of the wiring to make sure they connect properly.
[Other SmartWatches] Zaiaku:
the only ones I see are 700mah battery would that still fit? think the original is only 470mah

no changes to sd card.
[Other SmartWatches] digiworld:
Didn't you open the watch at all?
[Other SmartWatches] Zaiaku:
no, nevered opened it until it stopped charging. I tried to reset the battery once and it start to charge but only to 1% and wouldn't charge past that. Now no charging at all
[Other SmartWatches] digiworld:
You could try another charging cable and/or charging device.
[Other SmartWatches] kyone2000:
In the end it may be easier just buying a new watch. If you can manage to squeeze in a higher capacity battery let us know.

I get about 2.5 days of light use of my watch. When i checked it a few hours ago, after the 2.5 days, it said it had 50% charge remaining. I checked it again about an hour later and it was off, completely flat. I was expecting this.

Most modern phone and laptops can detect when the battery is fully charged and completely flat and adjust the expected capacity for the next charge but the S8 appears unable to do that.
[Other SmartWatches] jeffc83:
If I may ask, how long have you had your S8?

So far, my "2nd gen" Zgpax S8 battery indicator has been extremely accurate with excellent overall battery life! (fingers crossed) After the third day, I'll be down to 2-3% before it dies...maybe they fixed the issue with the 2nd gen units!?

Also, I'm not sure if this has been brought up but the 2nd gen only has a 1Ghz dual core processor, not a 1.2Ghz. (I know, it looks MUCH better on paper...lol)
[Other SmartWatches] janek69:
It's bad news. No original battery for S5. Try to charge from your PC USB port.
[Other SmartWatches] plplplpl:
Also, you might want to check that you're using a longer 8mm microUSB plug, because standard ones are often not long enough to connect well, so it doesn't charge.
[Other SmartWatches] kyone2000:
I've owned mine for over 2 months. When I purchased mine it had the latest firmware. I get over 2 days of light use but when I turn on the data connection I would probably get 8- 12 hours. I use google Now voice control and have to keep turning on the data connection on and off.

How do you know the latest version has a 1Ghz processor ? The S8 web site does not mention anything about a new version. This is my 4th watch phone, I am a big fan of this form factor.
[Other SmartWatches] jeffc83:
I have had mine for two weeks and only use wifi, which is on all the time. (SWapp Link is a great companion app) I have the new firmware too and the side of the box says 1.2Ghz...I just said 2nd gen but its more like a minor upgrade if you will. We also have a different camera as other members here have mentioned.

I've always used SetCPU along with OSmonitor...both state the max for both cores is 1Ghz. I like how they set the governor to hotplug as its solid. I did uninstall SetCPU since I didn't find the need to underclock it but kept OSmonitor to have the ability to change the governor on the kernel.

I like this watch much better than any android wear options out there...this does so much more.
[Other SmartWatches] bernsbe:
I have my 2nd gen for a few weeks now. Over the week-end I ignored it completely, while it was charging (for about 3 days it was connected to a charging device)

15/04/2015 After 1 day and 14 hours it is at 94% (only 6% used)

Consuption is 45% cell stand by, 35% idle phone, 7% screen, 5% android system, 4% OS, 2% play services, 2% shell and 2% com.android.sys

I'll monitor further until it runs out of juice and report over the next (few) days.

16/04/2015 After 2 days and 15 hours it is at 92% (only 8% used)

Consuption is 41% cell stand by, 33% idle phone, 8% screen, 6% android system, 7% OS, 3% shell and 2% com.android.sys

Besides looking at the time I took 2 pictures. The angle of the picture is rather wide. Optically, a picture snaps about 10x the visual size of what my regular smartphone captures. (This means the density of pixels on a particular object on the picture is low for 2 reasons: less megapixels and larger frame). Image quality is not bad, taken all things into account.

17/04/2015After 3 days and 19 hours it is at 74%

Consuption is 63% cell stand by, 15% idle phone, 7% screen, 7% android system, 5% OS, 2% shell and 2% com.android.sys

18/04/2015 After 4 days and 23 hours it was at 22%, and just over 5 days it shut down.

2 conclusions to draw relatively safely from this:

1) battery consumption is provided in a "progressive" way. The longer the watch has been working on one charge, the faster the counter drops

2) without wifi or bluetooth, and without a SIM, the unit can run over 4 days on one charge (just as a watch)
[Other SmartWatches] jeffc83:
Boost your watch (NO ROOT NEEDED)

This simple setting change will speed up the animation scaling on your watch, which will make your device faster by transitioning the windows quickly. (it works for all devices BTW, I did it a year ago on my smartphone) There are no ill effects by doing this:)

1. Open Developer Options

2. Scroll down until you see Windows Animation Scale, Transition Scale and Animator Scale

3. By default, they are all set to 1x...change ALL of them to .5x or .25x (.25x will be faster but I kept mine at .5x)

4. Enjoy the faster and smoother experience!!!

If you do not have developer options, please follow the instructions below:

1. Go to the settings menu, and scroll down and select "About phone"

2. Scroll down to the bottom again, where you see "Build number"

3. Tap it seven (7) times

4. Go back to settings; you will now see Developer Options
[Other SmartWatches] Vishere:
New firmware

I downloaded firmware 1422012227 with MTK Droid Tools. As a new user I can not publish the link.
[Other SmartWatches] arovaris:
About battery consumption??
[Other SmartWatches] jeffc83:
There are no changes to the battery consumption when changing these settings; this just speeds up the window transitions within Android. (they are slow by default for visual purposes) You can always put it back if you like the slow transitions...
[Other SmartWatches] arovaris:
Mine watch,turns more slowly. I has a Haozo 6s watch.
[Other SmartWatches] Bunkier:
New firmware..

Can anyone confirm that the new firmware 1422012227 is available..?

THX
[Other SmartWatches] kgonepostl:
Ya I'd like a confirmation too, google turned up nothing
[Other SmartWatches] jeffc83:
This modification did not cause that...try to reboot your device.
[Other SmartWatches] zswielder:
Can someone tell me if this watch can be used with TMO's $15 wearable plan? Or, better yet, their $200mb free tablet data?

---------- Post added at 07:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:01 AM ----------

Hi, which TMO plan are you using? $15 wearable plan?
[Other SmartWatches] ronfurro:
The US T-Mobile Free 200mb plan will not work on any device that is capable of making and receiving phone calls, only tablets and such.

US T-Mobile $15 Wearable plan: http://www.t-mobile.com/offer/samsung-gear-s-data-plan-bundle.html

A much better plan is the new Beta US TING $6 plan: https://ting.com/blog/ting-on-a-gsm-network-open-beta-is-well-open/

I'm using Ting on my S8 and Gear S and it's awesome! Uses T-Mobile's towers and the cost is $6 flat rate, no activation cost. You play $3 100 min, $3 100 text, $3 100mb 4G you use with unlimited access. Just pay what you use. I'm averaging $12-$15 a month.

https://ting.com/rates
[Other SmartWatches] zswielder:
As far as the 200mb plan goes, it's managed based on imei numbers. I thought it might possibly work since this device is minor, and it won't be on TMO's list. Thanks for the information about the Ting plan. I didn't know about it. But, I don't know that I agree that it is a better plan. TMO's $15 plan gives you unlimited calls, unlimited texts, 500mb of data, and international coverage. I think that's far better than what I read on Ting.
[Other SmartWatches] ronfurro:
Just depends on what your looking for.... I think you would agree that making tons of call and text on the S8 isn't the most practical thing. It's more of a backup device. That's where a pay as you go plan is a good option.

As for the T-Mobile 200mb tablet plan, try it out and let us know if it works on the S8. That plan would be a good option too.
[Other SmartWatches] zswielder:
I'm not set on buying S8 yet. I'm looking at Neptune Pine and some other options. It's hard to decide lol. I need the watch to satisfy:

- Stand alone phone capability

- Android OS

- Decent battery life
[Other SmartWatches] ronfurro:
In my humble opion, the Neptune Pine and the Truesmart are old tech. with several unresolved issues. For the buck, the S8 can not be beaten.

After using the S8 for a few months, I finally gave up and purchased a Gear S. The S8 is not water resistant, only 2g capable in the US, and the little screen was driving me crazy trying to text and navigate. Battery life was reasonable and I loved the micro USB on the side.

The Gear S is a desperate compromise until something better is available. I hate that it doesn't have the customizability of Android but honestly wow, it is a HUGE step forward in feature performance. HUGE.

Enough about that, don't want to get the tread off topic. Check out the Gear S, Omate TS, and NP sections if your interested.
[Other SmartWatches] zswielder:
Thanks for sharing your experience. It's very helpful. Ideally, I'd want to buy Gear S and put it on TMO's $15 plan, but Gear S is a bit too costly for me, which is why I've been looking into other smartwatches. I'll continue looking.
[Other SmartWatches] webman2k:
After using this for a little while, the size limitations are starting to get to me and my big fingers. Its fun, but I think I'm going to go back to a handset. Need a better camera too. Anyone in the us interested in buying mine? Screen is perfect. Couple of tiny specs of dust under the screen, but that's unavoidable. Its practically like new, and is the NEW version, so everything just works. PM me if you're interested. Some pics attached.

Edit: Sold it.
[Other SmartWatches] bernsbe:
Dealing with the small size

I've finally got to putting a 3G card in the ZGPAX and like the quality of the conversation, reception, on mobile phone. Speed on 3G and wireless hotspot are awesome.

What I miss is 3 things:

1) The phone history - It's simply absent. How can we browse through history and return a call

2) The messages on SMS - keyboard and thick fingers hmm, a thing to deal with differently

3) A big screen

Question 1:

So, for the phone history: any recommendations on a contacts/phone app that works well and solves this issue?

Question 2:

2) and 3): I've tried mobizen and have seen nice things about airdroid, some people use VNC server and a webclient. Any recommendations?

Mobizen and Airdroid would solve the issue as typing on the PC would initiate things on the zgpax s8.

I can, however, imagine someone having a watch, a regular android phone, an android tablet and a PC. Wouldn't it be nice to just get rid of the regular android phone and use the tablet for big screen and typing purposes. This would result in something very similar as what has been invented in Canada with a nice looking product very recently.

Question 3:

So, anybody tried remote managing the ZGPAX S8 in a very mobizen or airdroid way from a larger android device (like a Samsung galaxy s2 7.0 for example)? Any tool that allows us to do this?

Your tricks are welcome.

Oh, by the way, I'll be testing 2 Bluetooth earphones. I don't want to disturb the colleagues with the my voice AND the one from the person on the other side of the line. I truly appreciate the handsfree functionality of the ZGPAX S8. It proves to work rather well.
[Other SmartWatches] piechucki:
1. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hb.dialer.free

2. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.exideas.mekb&hl=pl
[Other SmartWatches] bernsbe:
1. seems to do the trick at first sight

2. tried it. On its own a brilliant thing. Buttons remain small on the S8, so typing stays difficult.

If we would be able to use a bigger screen to type and take control of the watch then we could type and look at bigger things only when there is a true need.

What we would end up with is a bit like what is discussed on this spot here. at XDA, about the neptune duo
[Other SmartWatches] piechucki:
Ad. 2. Turn on the "zoom mode". We are writing on 9 keys.
[Other SmartWatches] arovaris:
build.prop

Please, someone can put here full s8 build.prop values??
[Other SmartWatches] bernsbe:
To type SMS I was looking for an app that allowed to link S8 and a tablet to use the tablet as input/read device, solving the big finger problem at least for the second most important thing I use a phone for: SMSes. There are a lot of solutions using a kind of a cloud service, requiring wifi connection. I found tablet talk that links bluetooth with a tablet, without wifi. It's not free, but it does the trick marvelously.

still looking for an alternative to airdroid that would not need an internet connection (wifi tethering or similar is acceptable) to give the S8 a bigger screen and a bigger keyboard using a tablet bringing the solution to much more than SMS.

To have regular phone calls, I've been using the samsung HM1200 headset for a week now, and it works like a charm.
[Other SmartWatches] HaploVoss:
Factory Reset - Buttons?

Hello all,

Just bought this, received it new in the box... and the screen is locked! Ha! I have had this happen to me one time before many years ago when I think 2.1 was all the rage on a china tablet, but of course it had a home button.

Has anyone figured out a way to do a factory/hard reset on this watch using the buttons? Or does anyone know of anything that can be used to access via USB? Either way is fine, but remember:

The whole reason I am stuck is that I cannot install anything on my new watch! So I cannot root it or anything else.

Thank you very much for any help. I'd really like to get this thing working and try it out! I've got my StraightTalk sim card from my phablet just sitting here itching to make some calls from it :)

Later!

- Hap
[Other SmartWatches] jeffc83:
Your screen is locked as in it needs you to enter a password? If so, it doesn't sound like you received a new unit.

I don't believe there is a factory reset using the buttons. You could try Spflashing it...
[Other SmartWatches] HaploVoss:
Yep that's exactly right. I think someone returned it and they did not check it properly before shipping it back out to someone else. It is perfectly clean, no scratches or anything, but it wants you to enter in a PIN. They are accepting an exchange no questions asked... just hoping to avoid a big long exchange process. :P

Ah well... here we go I guess. lol Thanks for the heads up. I might try spflash
[Other SmartWatches] jeffc83:
I know the feeling...I would probably do the same before returning it myself. Its a great watch that is underrated!
[Other SmartWatches] HaploVoss:
New one got here today and sure enough - no problems at all. Even a screen cover you have to peel off... so yeah, the first one was definitely a return that got shipped out.

WOW am I impressed with this thing - we live 'out in the sticks' and it has just as good reception as any of our other phones and better than one of them. I was not expecting that at all. I figured I would have to drive at least part of the way into town before it started getting signal. Nice!
[Other SmartWatches] ronfurro:
Congrats! Has anyone been able to get Bluetooth PAN to work on this? It would be nice to slave this to the the phone for increased Internet speed when your close to your phone. That would be the ultimate solution, as wifi isn't very practical, when trying to conserve battery.
[Other SmartWatches] HaploVoss:
All you need to do is go into your tethering settings on both devices and set it up. I take it you have tried and it is not working for you?
[Other SmartWatches] jeffc83:
[MENTION=2538228]HaploVoss[/MENTION] - Glad you received a new model this time...now you can TRULY enjoy it without having concerns;)

WiFi and Bluetooth ON 100% of the time does NOT seem to drain the battery as much as I thought...I am getting more impressed by the day here.

As a side note, I did take my watch apart and the SDcard swap was easy (thank you Janek69 for your screenshots, they were very helpful) While I was in there, I decided to fix my "wiggling" side keys by inserting a piece of foam in there on top of and around the button on the board. You may have to experiment with different types of material but I ended up with foam...when I was testing, I found that a small piece of a paper towel did the trick too but I was trying to avoid "contributing" to the dust issue as much as possible) Ahh, the satisfaction of moving my wrist/arm without hearing noise...lol, it's always the simple things in life!
[Other SmartWatches] HaploVoss:
Ok I have to throw out there that I am super impressed with this thing by the end of my first day with it. I'm sure I'll find some quirks I don't like (Of course 3G in the USA would be nice) but right now this is way beyond what I thought I would get in the end.

StraightTalk SIM just plugged in and made phone calls. I have a little bluetooth keyboard and PT Legend earpiece - both work no problem at the same time. Used the keyboard to enter a new APN for my straighttalk card and now I have Edge internet. Works great for my personal and office emails, skype, etc. that I really need. Actually browses the web fine and will stream music... but you're not going to be watching youtube or anything.

I am still tripping out over the signal reception. I get more bars with this little watch than many phones. Just nuts! Seriously crazy.

I don't have 'wiggling' side keys/buttons (so far), so I'm leaving everything alone for the moment. Being the technophile I am, I'm sure it won't be long before I crack it open and throw a 32GB card in there. lol

Talked with my wife using my headset for over an hour solid today and still had half a charge. At this point I am down to 1/4 charge or less, but I've been really hard on it of course. 'New Toy' has no where near worn off yet :)

Oh and yes - I HIGHLY recommend a nice little bluetooth keyboard of your choice. The perfect combo. A phone I don't have to put down to use the keyboard.
[Other SmartWatches] bernsbe:
Hi HaploVoss,

I have the advantage of living in Europe, so I have all that AND 3G.

When you type on the keyboard, do you take of the watch then? And put it on the desk or so. How do you go about?

As I have an old phone that I'm replacing with the zgpax s8, you gave me the idea to use the phone as a bluetooth keyboard. Maybe there's an app out there that makes this possible. ;)

For those who have a phone and want to re-use it as a keyboard for sms texting over bluetooth: tablet talk does a great job.

Over last week-end I found out that airdroid doesn't require registering. So if you have a wifi network that you can manage yourself, it is possible to take almost total control of your zgpax s8 with a larger keyboard and a browser.
[Other SmartWatches] HaploVoss:
Oh sure... rub it in :)

No, actually I like my watch to be just a little loose. Not enough to spin on my wrist, but enough that I can physically turn it if I want.

All I do is grab my BT Keyboard, twist my watch to where it is pointing 'up' (rotate inward not quite 90 degrees) and I have a perfect viewing angle to just type it out and check the screen to ensure I'm on track.

I love the little Rii keyboard I use too because it not only has the track pad (yes, even on the watch you will get a useful mouse pointer), but even the navigation cluster works really well to 'tab through' fields and 'ok' on selections.

I probably have 5 different little BT Keyboards, but this one is my favorite for using with this watch:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JO80LVW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Still fits in your pocket. Just take it out, turn it on, count to 5, and you are connected and typing. Shut it off, stuff it back in your pocket, and off you go. Just really awesome for returning a quick SMS, emails, etc.

Not to mention - the media controls work without waking up the screen! Play/Pause, Volume Up/Down, Track Back/Forward, Mute. VERY nice!

The more I kick the tires... the more I'm saying goodbye to my tablet. Even the camera is plenty good for the pics I take of the S/N, asset tags, and tracking waybills I keep for records at work. I guess the only thing I need now is a nice BT signature pad and I would be set! :D
[Other SmartWatches] HaploVoss:
Oh yeah - A helpful hint for StraightTalk users:

I always try to post this anywhere I go, because I figured this out and it seems to help a lot of people...

If you're using ST, you're most likely in the USA unless you're on vacation so this applies to USA issues basically.

On any new phone or device you use a GSM SIM card in that is from StraightTalk, you will have a few scenarios that will give you 'connection problems'. This watch in particular is a perfect example:

In the case where your device is limited by the high-speed band being single band UK (i.e. 2100) then by default settings your device is going to constantly search for a solid data connection. Since your SIM is working, and data is available, and there are towers around (like T-Mobile) that have 2100 being used on one side or the other - you will constantly connect and drop every so often.

Easy resolution - Settings, Wi-Fi and Networks, More..., Mobile Networks, then different versions are a bit different, but one of two things... just turn 3G off entirely, or choose 2G only / GSM only if you can't shut it off. Done deal - no more disconnects and you will now have at least a solid 2G EDGE connection to the internet. Yeah no streaming video and such, but perfectly fine for grabbing emails, IMs, and news, etc.

Later!
[Other SmartWatches] lgadbois:
Factory Reset

For reset, power must be off. Hold all buttons down at bottom of screen plus hold volume control button and then press power on button for about 20 seconds. ZGPAX screen will come on with confirmation at bottom.
[Other SmartWatches] kyone2000:
Just curious.. How did you find that out ?

Lots have asked but .. no one ever knew .. other than disconnecting the wires to the battery.