yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sefrcoko:
Hmm not sure yet :). Just downloaded and going to try it out. Building a new version of my Regular/Debloated roms and will test and post back with my findings. Suggest waiting for the moment but I should have some news later tonight or tomorrow.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Joshua Mr PC Repair:
Thanks

Thanks dude let me know later tonight or tomorrow
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sefrcoko:
Ok I built both Regular and Debloated versions of the new BOF2 base. Seems like every other base to me lol. Maybe it has some sort of under-the-hood optimizations, maybe not. Since it's based on Puerto Rico I needed to switch language to English during installation, as well as for keyboard settings and handwriting recognition settings. Also more heavily branded with bloat than our regular Canadian releases... Several "Claro" apks/widgets, wallpapers, sound files, and even a boot/shutdown animation.

Anyways, for those interested I'll be posting the Regular and Debloated BOF2 roms to my thread later on. Since they're in .zip format you can always just make a backup and then flash the new zip along with a custom kernel. This kinda let's you test drive the new firmware (minus stock kernel of course) without going the full Odin route.

EDIT: Roms posted.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jellmoo:
Hey all, just a quick follow up on my experience:

So I was waffling a bit about what I was going to do, deciding between either going the custom ROM route or possibly offloading my Note 4 and picking up something different. Ultimately, I decided to go the custom ROM route. I did a little research (while I'm experienced in rooting and installing custom recovery on other devices, this was my first Samsung attempt since the S2), and had no issues. Given the popularity, I decided to give Tekxodus a try. There were some definite improvements in performance. I didn't see the GPS issue or the WiFi issue I had been experiencing. Recent apps was still on the slow side, but there may have been some small improvement. After about two weeks, it felt stable and solid. My gripe though was that there felt like there was just too much. Options upon options, which I can see being great for those looking to tinker with every aspect of the device, but it felt a little stifling to me. I was looking for a streamline experience more than the "kitchen sink" approach.

So I decided to switch up and go with a CM 12.1 nightly. I'm only on day 2 of the experience, but so far so good. It's definitely a more spartan experience, which I like. I miss some of the S Pen options, but the workarounds aren't all that bad, at least for my needs. It definitely feels smoother and cleaner, which I like. Time will tell if I stick with CM or move to a TW ROM, but so far so good.

Thanks everyone for all their tips and ideas. They've been very helpful. I'll continue to poke my head in to see how my fellow Canucks are handling their Note 4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
Eww, that camera tho....
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
CM 12.1 is great. I ran it for quite some time. I have been forced back to stock though because I picked up a LED case and it wont work with anything but stock TW it would seem.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Strat-Mangler:
Hope somebody can help me out. I can flash Tekxodus 1.8 but whenever I flash the latest (3.6R3), it just soft-bricks. Black screen.

Any ideas why? I've followed the instructions EXACTLY.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
Did you wait the recommended 15 mins? It takes a while. FYI I ran that rom for a while and I flashed the tmobile version without issue, much more advanced than 1.8. Flash latest, flash cod6 kernel, flash data fix, profit
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Strat-Mangler:
Yep. Screen is black for 30 min. Nothing happens. Tried everything ; powering it on again (quick vibration, then dead forever), removing the battery and trying it again, powering up into Download mode and rebooting it...

When I flash with 1.2 or the 1.8 update, the logo appears right away and THEN, it takes a few minutes to boot. When I flash with the 3.6R3 version, it just soft-bricks. It's just dead right away. I can boot into the Download mode by pressing the buttons but that's it. So I'd love to flash the COD6 kernel, but I can't get to that step. I also don't see where the kernel is available for download. The Biohazard one, yes. But not the COD6 one.

Unless you're saying I should flash the ROM and then the COD6 kernel right away without rebooting in between? Because I flash the ROM, then reboot right away. Is that my mistake?

I'd like to try other versions of this ROM in case it's a version issue that's giving me grief, but I can't find any. 1.8 is cool but I'd so like to take advantage of the latest and greatest. :(
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sefrcoko:
Why would he flash COD6 kernel? That would bootloop on an N910W8. He would need a custom kernel to boot a COD6-based rom...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
If you flash 3.6, which is the tmobile version of the rom, not 1.8 (Canadian version), then flashing cod6 stock kernel immediately after rom, and before data fix, then reboot, is the only way it will boot originally. Then once set up you can flash a custom kernel. This is how it worked for me

---------- Post added at 11:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:33 AM ----------

Yes, flash 3.6, then stock cod6 kernel, data fix, then reboot. Let me know, it's worth it, 1.8 is no comparison to 3.6
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sefrcoko:
I'm still unclear how you're able to boot a COD6 kernel on our N910W8. :)

I know we can flash COD6 roms, but the only kernels that don't bootloop are custom or stock N910W8 (to my knowledge at least). If you're booting COD6 kernel as you said though, I guess either it's not pure stock kernel or something in the data fix removes the impediment to bootloop? For example, DynamicPop COD6 won't run for me with stock COD6 kernel, I need custom one to get it to boot at all (with data fix too of course).

I believe you btw lol, just trying to better understand based on my experiences [emoji106]
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
Not sure. But I've tried several times. Even tried the stock canadian kernel. Tekhds rom wouldn't boot without flashing the COD6 kernel from his op right after rom. Actually I'm on the DrKetans s6 port right now and I used the same procedure, flash rom, same cod6 kernel, data fix, boot, no worries. Sorry can't explain the reasons. But you can't flash emotion right after the rom, only after set up. And I bootlooped after flashing bioshock right after rom also. Haven't tried your rom yet sir, but I'm not a stock rom user, so I can't say about it, nor have I tried poprocks.

---------- Post added at 01:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:13 PM ----------

Just checked, maybe because tekhds rom comes with emotion kernel baked in, it won't boot for Canadians, thus flashing stock cod6 will boot?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sefrcoko:
Cool bud, thanks for the response :). Yes Emotion kernel doesn't seem to play nice with us unless coming from stock kernel, but I was mostly wondering about roms with stock COD6 kernel built in. Strange! No big deal though, was just curious lol. Thanks again [emoji106]
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Joshua Mr PC Repair:
I'm staying away from [TW] Custom roms because the last one I flashed erased my EFS folder. I'll stick to pure stock or Cm 12.1
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Strat-Mangler:
I tried the instructions you relayed to me directly and it was trapped in a boot loop. Couldn't even get to the booting animation. Just the standard Samsung Android logo.

I flashed to 3.6R3 and right away afterwards flashed the COD6 kernel, then the data fix, THEN rebooted for the first time. Boot loop. What the hell...?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
Again, how long did you wait? Lp literally takes 15 minutes sometimes. Check your watch and leave it for 20 minutes. I've flashed dozens of times in that way with no issues.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Strat-Mangler:
So you've experienced a boot loop that lasted 15 min before it booted into the OS? I can understand leaving it alone if it appears to do nothing, but a boot loop for 5 min straight tells me something fishy is going on... especially since the boot animation appeared on version 1.2 instantaneously which THEN took 10 min to boot into the OS.

Not sure if I'm being clear in how I'm describing things, but this was definitely a boot loop. Anyway, I'll try again and will leave it for 20 min but I'm 99.9% sure the boot loop will still be going on after.

EDIT : Just tried with a more recent TWRP file. Was using 2.8.1 and updated with 2.8.7. SUCCESS! Looks like there's some kind of an issue with a much older TWRP file.

I'd like to thank you VERY much for assisting me. This was driving me crazy. There are some good people here. It's nice that a fellow Canadian is one of them. :) Cheers!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sefrcoko:
Can you try flashing the bioshock custom lollipop kernel after installing the cod6 rom followed by data fix and boot? ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Strat-Mangler:
Read the edit above. It was my fault for using an outdated version of TWRP. Didn't think it would make a difference but it apparently did.

Also my fault for misreading the instructions initially and thinking I needed to reboot after each flash (ROM, Kernel, data fix).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
Crap, never thought to mention the twrp version! Enjoy, it's an awesome rom.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Strat-Mangler:
All my fault, bud.

By the way, did you try any of the mods? I'd like to go back to the stock toolbar at the top. Is that the Virgin UI mod that I see in post #2 of the initial thread?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
Tekhd does the mods a different way. They are all in system/mods folder, but to flash with twrp, you need first to mount system, then go home in twrp then flash from that system/mods folder. Lots in there. I was using the purple theme for a while, and I liked the notification bar that it came with, I just flashed the mod that got rid of the traffic notification

PS the themes aren't in that folder, just to be clear.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Strat-Mangler:
Thanks for the clarification.

You were right. This version is a lot better and snappier than the 1.8 version.

Only thing I'm trying to find now is the black wallpaper that it came with. It's show in the first screenshot of the lockscreen of the thread. Can't find it. Not a huge deal but if you remember off-hand where it is, that'd be great.

No other questions. Thanks again for helping me out. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
Sorry no, I have a bunch of my own black/dark wallpapers that I use. Maybe ask on the thread? Glad you're up and running.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] martinomac:
Great tip, that worked for me as well as I'm running latest 3.6 with no issues. I flashed latest AEL Multivariant kernel (15.4) after all was setup and it's flying!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alquistador:
Pass the link please
[Galaxy Note 4 General] martinomac:
XDA rules prohibit linking to outside kernels. Google will find it for you - http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ael+echo+kernel+note+4+tmobile
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tahahawa:
Hah. They banned me from their forum a few days ago. I wasn't even rude, either. I just asked a question.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alquistador:
Thats cool
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alquistador:
What lolipop roms can we flash using a custom kernel??
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Tmo and snapdragon international.

Data fix is required to be flashed along with a custom kernel also

Sent from my Nexus 6 or Note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] UlysseFR:
Few months after installation of PopRocks my Note4 came back to its original laggy state. What disappoints me the most in this phone is unability to use the pen to take fast notes. I would love to pull the pen and be able to write something on the spot instead i have to wait. Worse with photonote. I usually carry my paper notebook so I end up taking notes on paper. I hope Samsung will resolve this lagginess hopefully for note5.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sefrcoko:
How long do you have to wait to write notes once you pull out the s-pen? On mine it's not 100% instant, but also hardly a big enough delay to slow me down. Just a slight hiccup if anything.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] UlysseFR:
I would say 8 secs for the regular note ans 10 secs for the photo note.

Photonote when you click on the camera and it brings it into note you can write around
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
Definitely not normal, you have an issue with your setup
[Galaxy Note 4 General] UlysseFR:
Well it was fast right after the install of poprocks then progressively got slower. It is the same with my laptop after a year of use
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sefrcoko:
Maybe you have an app or mod causing issues, because that hasn't happened for me on PR or other roms, even after extended use.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] UlysseFR:
Yes maybe. I have since some time a freezing issue. like for example I open Facebook and do something in it and then it gets freezed. Sometimes it is such a pain that I reboot the note completely. I wonder if it is not a memory issue. I wish popRock use less memory. Often the memory gauge almost hits the ceiling.

I wonder if the light Cyanogen will use lesss of the RAM maybe? I looked on the test and Cyanogen performs very poor gainst Samsung touch Wiz rom. However Cyanogen was always known of its low ram and ressources usage. i had it on my old S1 back in time, enjoyed it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sefrcoko:
I don't think there's an issue with Poprocks or memory to be honest since everything runs fine after initial setup. Sounds more like you just need to clean flash because something (e.g. rogue app, flashing different roms, xposed, etc) has messed things up and is hogging resources. Suggest to Odin your base firmware and follow steps in OP of Poprocks thread to start fresh and them try to narrow down the issue from there.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alquistador:
Facebook locks up on every rom!!!!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
Awesome story!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sefrcoko:
Lol...clean flash? Cleared fb app cache/data? Are you using xposed, titanium backup, etc? Which roms have you been trying? Have you tried to Odin stock firmware and then test Facebook? Etc... More details needed ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] UlysseFR:
Thanks guys

I don't use xposed, neither Titanium backup. Trying PopRock V5 currently. I've got my Note and and right away found it a bit laggy. I was expecting better response times from such a beast. So I decided to go with PopRocks. Was fine in the beginning, not awesome though. But after installing some apps gotten worse.

Guys you think task kill app would help? Anybody tried Cyanogen in this thread? Also I've read a bit about the Samsung Galaxy S6 and its 64 bits system with very fast flash memory making it very powerfl. Hope the next Note will benefit from the same techonlogy.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
Yep, I'm using Temaseks rom, the best aosp rom out there
[Galaxy Note 4 General] UlysseFR:
Nice, what is the place you've picked this one? Have you managed to make the S PEN / Camera / Fingerprint / Cardio work nicely?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Roms are either in note 4 android Dev or original android Dev.

The TW camera will NEVER work on any source built ROM.

For the other stuff there are apps that replicate those TW features.

Sent from my Nexus 6 or Note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nk_blu:
How did you get to install this on our 910W8 devices? I tried installing over TWRP 2.8.6.0 and it failed because "this device is trltecan" and it's for trltexx etc.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gaganmohal:
You have to install tmobile version "trltetmo", trtlexx is for international note 4. Probably thats the reason you getting error. You can download tmobile version from thread below

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3066174

[ROM][trltetmo][5.1.1_r8]Temasek's CM12.1 Build V 15.5 August 9
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Cryingmoose:
BOE2 is on samobile http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-N910W8/
[Galaxy Note 4 General] vcallas:
I just got it OTA on my Wind Note 4. I had to do a manual check for an update and it started to download. It is still 5.0.1, so likely just a security update.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ciscostud:
Maybe 5.1.1 in 2016...

Pretty big update for 5.0.1 (Wind)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cash2387:
Ive done the update on my wifes Note 4 this morning. It is only a 150+ MB update, she was on BOC4. It says its mainly for the StageFright Fix. Once the upgrade installed the phone seems slightly slow until things got going. It does still seem like it didn't improve any performance. Looks like all Canadian Carriers sent this out. I hope we get 5.1.1 soon. Sprint and TMO are rolling it out.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
I have no idea about Bell or Wind but Rogers has stated they will not be updating the Note 4 any further as it is a "legacy device" already. I screenshot the tech chat window about it but have to find that pic.

If Bell updates then we can still get the update but will have to use Kies.

EDIT: I should mention that the Note Edge is being updated by all the carries to 5.1.1 so there is hope.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cash2387:
I'm with Eastlink so I hope their policy isn't the same. My wife and I just upgraded from our S3s to this about 2 months ago...I figured it would be a kick ass device, so far being stuck on KitKat is my only option (My games lag too much on Lollipop). I regret not getting the Nexus 6, but I didn't like the Idea of 32GB internal only. That's what stopped from my the Nexus line before our S3's. I would actually drop into a Rogers store and ask them that question, The Note 4 is still the top end Note phone out, since the Note 5 hasn't dropped. So they cant claim its a legacy device. If they give you the same BS story, say "Why are the Galaxy S 5's being upgraded hmmm" :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Cryingmoose:
Odin'd BOE2 and can confirm that CF-auto root still works with BOE2.

Also I ran the official stagefight detector app, and I'm showing as not vulnerable
[Galaxy Note 4 General] martinomac:
To those that have odin'd to BOE2, can you let me know if your data/voice reception has improved or the same. I'm on BOE1 modem and its not the greatest reception for me as I'm in a crappy location during work hours.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dbzgod:
I did the full firmware flash for OE2, seems the same for me for voice & data but on the other hand I live in a good reception area so it's hard to tell.

Everything else seems great, and even though the changes they did were just to patch the stagefright vulnerability my phone has actually improved, noticeable speed improvements, loading of apps and switching between. I saw they have made changes to the build.prop file so perhaps they have also made improvements there?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] martinomac:
Anyone got a faster download (mirror) of base BOE2?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tiberx:
Got BOE2 felt recent patch improved the smoothness of the phone seems faster. You need to remove the bloat on the phone. I recommend if you have Titanium Backup to freeze most of the spyware/bloat. This will reduce choppyness/slowness in games. Also you guys have to use APP OPS to set the permissions for all those free apps.

Root again -> enable SD write -> APP OPS. Remove or Freeze the bloat\Spyware.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jayhoo:
Updated to BOE2 a few days ago and while it does run a little snappier, the phone gets quite hot doing things it'd normally not have issues with (eg. youtube, angrybirds2, etc). Reception has been ok for voice, but I find that the phone is a little more sensitive to tower handshakes.

I'm contemplating making the move over to CM12 but haven't had the time to really read/dig to see which version to use. This site lumps Canadian 910W8 in with T-Mobile which doesn't seem right... Historically with my previous Galaxy phones, we've been tied to AT&T releases. Any input?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
They're identical phones, tmob and ours. There's no issues. There's Temaseks and slim remix that I've tried, they are awesome.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ongxa:
Hi:

I've been using this CMRemix ROM ( CM 12.1 base) from T-Mobile site. I MUST say it very STABLE and Super fast. Give it a try, you may like it.

Good Day.

Oh I am Canadian 910W8 user, too.

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-tmobile/development/rom-cmremix-rom-v2-5-12-23-14-t2981479
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jayhoo:
Thanks guys!

Hope CM12 doesn't break youtube like CM11 did to my note 3 :P Those morning commutes got a lot longer without entertainment...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ongxa:
Not breaking YouTube for my end. To be clear, CM 12.1 the latest now
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
Edit: I don't know where the other half of that message went ha ha, anyways.

I forgot to mention the "gap". The guy at the Telus store brought out a white and black Note 4 for me to look at when I bought mine earlier. The black had a noticeable gap in the top right and bottom left corner IF you were looking for it and the light hit it just right. The only reason this gap is noticeable is because you can see the shimmer of the bezel if there's the slightest amount of space between it and the display glass. The second black Note he brought out (the one I bought) is flawless so there is some variance between units.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Anyone experience choppy Bluetooth playback when screen is off? Or just me...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
I haven't noticed any choppy playback through Bluetooth speakers or a Bluetooth headset.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Seems to happen to the qualcomm variants. Wonderful [emoji21]
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
:( maybe a firmware update will kill that bug.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] miorya:
891

I thought it was $750 if you buy it at Rogers. Did they change it to $800?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ToyMusha:
Rogers IS selling it for $800 for sure. I guess they really have changed it...:(
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dbzgod:
No its not that they changed it, its that they can be a little bit deceiving, what they do is when they list their prices on their website, the "month to month" price is exactly that, Rogers discounts you $50 off any phone that you don't want a contract for but are willing/wanting to get a month to month plan, if you just want the device and no new plan, always just add +$50 to whatever price they list on the website.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] miorya:
Hm weird, I was checking out another forum and there's been mention of people getting it for $750 and someone got a credit of $50 on their account when they called Rogers questioning the price difference. Maybe it might be $750 if you tell them you have an account with them or something?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] equlizer:
So who has rooted their phone? I just got my note 4 on bell a few hours ago with an otterbox defender case. The case is alot thinner than most otterbox cases. The rubber feels alot harder as well which im getting used to. Fingerprint scanner is easily used as is the sensor in the back.

Have you all done the OTA update? Should i do the update then root?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] coremark:
I updated first then rooted no problem. Hopefully it works for you too.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Deliximus:
Did rooting trip KNOX for you?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] equlizer:
Of course it will. There is no other way for root as of yet.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Deliximus:
n900w8 did not trip KNOX with either CF-root or installing a custom recovery, that's why I am asking.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Wooba99:
I'm thinking about trying to get a Telus one outright (I'm a koodo user). I noticed on the telus website it tries to sell you the phone with an NFC sim. Does that mean that the NFC is not built into the phone? I can't find any other reference to it.

Also, does anyone know if the Canadian models will support QI charging?

Thanks..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
NFC is built into the battery AFAIK. You would still need the wireless charging back plate.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zxaz:
Well finally have picked up my note 4.......verry nice screen....just love it
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
I've rooted and twrp already. No issues. All very fluid.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Dingchow:
You install the T-mobile twrp?