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[Galaxy Note 4 General] nadrojcote:
Got it figured out, the rom I installed was a port for the n910t version and they removed the csc information. I added it and its working. Showing LTE now.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
I guess it has to be custom kitkat kernel. I try to stay from them lately. Only stock or hacked stock for me. No matter.

Good news is that bootloader is downgradeable fully. So stock Odin flash kitkat works 100%. Restore my nandroid now, and definitely staying here.

In my personal case, besides missing xposed too much. There is this weird bug with lollipop and my bluetooth. Every time I hang up, it would act as a home key press. In my case that key launches google now,on homepage.

Does the same with my wife's phone, and she is fully stock, unrooted, with only Nova launcher installed. And it's not just on nova that it behaves like this.

So? Bye bye smooth scrolling on Tapatalk and google+, bye Sweet usable multitasking button. That's it, got no more praise for it. Well I guess I lied. In my opinion, I also think that memory management seems better on lollipop, and also my battery life actually seemed better (while screen on and using it).

Ok done with positives. Maybe volte might get me to update again, if we ever get it, or xposed for samsung ?, or 5.02, 5.1...

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Yep Rogers shows LTE but typically in the past there have always been a few roms that I have installed that wouldn't show LTE symbol but 4g..appears you had the same issue.

As well, as Idan stated, this can also be controlled by the csc.

Anyways looks like you got it figured out

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Yep I'm not overly impressed (yet) with the LP we are getting on our notes.. 5.1 takes care of some of the bugs and is better for sure (on my Nexus6) but still needs work.. Maybe 5.2..

Still staying with my Note4 as my daily

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He replied back on this a day or two ago.. Rogers did not release yet but he had changed his csc to Kyoto and that's why he got the update.

Still should be a but longer for the Rogers OTA but supposedly will be 5.0.2...we will soon see
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dawen:
If I change my csc to Bell to get the OTA, and when rogers release the 5.02 or whatever update can I change my Bell csc back to Rogers csc and still get the 5.02 OTA?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
yep..that should work and allow you to get the OTA..as long as you are unrooted firmware with stock recovery.. should be good to go
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sharp2G:
Exactly. Or alternatively you can flash the OTA from Rogers when it comes using ODIN. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dawen:
Awesome I have to look back the thread how to change the csc, which carrier 5.01 firmware is better for Rogers? After I OTA the 5.01 update can I change my csc back to Rogers right away?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Flash OTA using ODIN?

Surely you mean full firmware.

Note 4 ?

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Why simple, when you can do complicated.

You will really change csc, set up the phone, wait for OTA, then change back to RWC, and setup again? Cause getting full firmware and flashing in Odin is......?

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dawen:
I haven't flashed with Odin for a long time since the S3 that was long time ago, does it trip Knox ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] kojobaafi:
So I just checked Sammobile about ten minutes ago and the Rogers and Fido firmware is released but it's 5.0.1.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Exactly...i tried a backup with the stock kernel and no go...booted back into recovery flashed nadia and it booted.

Restored another backup which had AEL on it alread and it also was no problem.

Sorry guys been busy on the vision x LP threads should have posted this sooner.

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] JonL21:
So Rogers users had to wait just another week for Lollipop? I'm glad I was patient lol
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
I believe that the next LP update will be 5.1.1 & not 5.2?

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8 Running RRO Layered SlimLP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sharp2G:
The official Rogers OTA is now available and firmware is also on SamMobile.

How disappointing... I thought the update for Rogers today would be 5.0.2, but it isn't. Is there any significant changes to Roger's firmware or is it simple the same thing with a different CSC installed up front?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
So much for Rogers taking longer because they were releasing 5.0.2. Their OS Update page still says 5.0.2. But this morning I updated via OTA and it's 5.0.1. WTF?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dawen:
I waited extra week just for the same 5.01 wow
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
Yup.. And on Facebook, when I asked why it was 5.0.1 and not 5.0.2, this was their response, even though I linked their OS update page that still says 5.0.2 and posted a pic in case they change it:

So then I asked:

So you lied on the OS update page then that you always refer us to? It still says 5.0.2. So we waited an extra week longer than any other carrier customer in Canada for the same version as everyone else?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Just to be clear - If you're stock and getting the OTA - You DON'T FLASH with Odin!! You let the OTA update your device!

You ONLY flash with Odin - If you're getting the Firmware update from sammobile.com!

Then if you want - Flash the TWRP 2.8.6.0 img.tar with Odin etc

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8 Running RRO Layered SlimLP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
LOL...and now Rogers posts that the OS update link states all of April for the release of 5.0.2 so they are saying they will release 5.0.2 in April as well as what they just shipped out OTA.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] timeiscoffee:
goddamn rogers, slow as hell and they give us false hope with 5.0.2.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Yes. But now, you can sleep well knowing that Rogers has spent a full week extra testing it for you, and you, your family, and your pets are safe.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pappcam:
That Rogers bloatware doesn't test itself you know... ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sharp2G:
Haha that's the only difference from the Rogers LP firmware and the rest? Or is it more optimized for Rogers like reception wise?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
There's nothing that Rogers can optimize or change on their own. So no. It's the same firmware as everyone else's.

It's just like anything else in life. People that do testing for rogers, have to protect their jobs. Most likely samsung gave out the firmware at the same time to wide international rollout, Canadian providers, and wouldn't be surprised to tmobile as well. Being aware of how late it is, others chose to just release it asap, whereas tmobile and Rogers wanted to stick to procedure, so they wouldn't be declared redundant in the future.

You can also compare changelog number in build.prop. I can't do it now, as my wife's phone is not with me, and I'm firmly back on kitkat. There's just too many little things I would be missing from my setup, and not enough incentive for me to be on ?.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BrianTcook:
TWRP Odin Flash

Has anyone had any success flashing TWRP to their Canadian note 4 after updating to lollipop 5.0.1 OTA? I get a failed message no matter what I do.

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Have you had any luck getting this to work? Odin reports failure everytime I try flashing TWRP.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Did you try other versions? For example, in my case I odined 2.8.3.0 just fine (cause that's the latest I had in tar format, then through twrp, updated to 2.8.6.0 (cause that's what I had in zip format on my phone).

Yes I was too lazy to go get latest in tar format.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
I didn't get the OTA but from sammobile - No issues flashing TWRP 2.8.6.0 img.tar with Odin - Which also asks if you want to install SuperSU - So as always- No need to use CF Auto Root ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
TWRP works fine for me on 5.0.1
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
No issues for me flashing twrp .tar 2.8.5.0 via odin.

"just say no to spoon feeding"
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BrianTcook:
Note 4 forgotten step

So it turns out that almost every tutorial has left out the step on turning off Samsung's Recover Lock. Seems silly now but being my first time doing this, I didn't even know there was a lock out for firmware flashing. Thanks for the reply's though [MENTION=4463570]force70[/MENTION] and [MENTION=3667583]airwa1kin7[/MENTION]

A note to anyone else unaware of this:

TURN OFF RECOVERY LOCK TO ROOT OR INSTALL CUSTOM ROMS!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Yep....that one gets alot of ppl still.

"just say no to spoon feeding"
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
I must be the only guy left who installs TWRP from *within* Android.. Have done so since my Galaxy Captivate. Almost never Odin it..

Download the image file.. Go into terminal emulator in Android.. Enter one line.. Done! Has never failed..

Just have to make sure you double check the spelling/syntax in emulator as a character mistake could cause a brick but it is damn simple :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] albaboi123:
I'm running stock, just did the OTA via Rogers. How do i root?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] daniel4653:
You dig a hole in the ground, put your phone in the hole. Then you water it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Cf auto root flashed via odin....at least thats my preference. Takes all of 30 seconds

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Just curious why the OTA is so much smaller then the firmware download from SamMobile?

As far as I remember most people were getting larger OTA's... But maybe not? Just curious..

All d/l are 1.7GB but OTA is 990mb..is that bloat that's already on and not loading again? Lol

I refreshed my other note back to kk two days ago.. OTA popped up last night..

Not going back (at least not anytime soon but was intrigued by the size difference..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
I like [MENTION=2733651]daniel4653[/MENTION]'s answer better. You gotta stop nursing the babies force. Especially for something as basic. ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Lol

"dig a hole in ground place in hole and water."

Yeah but if it wasn't for all the simple stuff and the *endless* posts of questions that have been asked and answered thousands of times then this forum would be nearly empty! Lol
[Galaxy Note 4 General] lebman1234:
So I flashed the new stock lollipop 5.01 bell version to my rogers note 4 SM-910W8. Works good but still a bit clunky at times. I am coming off firekat rom v11. I was wondering if anyone finds a difference in battery life from the new lollipop vs. firekat v11? Do you find it worse, better, the same? I find the lollipop battery life a bit worse.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
Have you tried out iOS Wave yet? Wirelessly charge your device in a microwave. You should try it out!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
FK is the best battery life I think you will ever find on this device, although I can get close on a clean stock.. LP is decent but not if FK territory..

I get sick life now as it is.. Haven't given LP a long enough go to get a true sense (and don't plan on it for a whole until LP gets its crap figured out)

The stock W8 5.0.1 firmware that is out now (with Sammy's TW) is rather unimpressive... For the big leap LP was supposed to be.

Actually uglier imo.. Still buggy. Missing too many true LP features.. Too bad

Of course Sammy didn't implement the Camera2 api's which is my biggest peeve (and I knew they'd do it)

Below are screenies of the Camera2 test and two recent 10+hrs sot days I've had.. 18hr days.. Rooted FK. No Greenify. WiFi and cell radio on all day. Half day Bluetooth on.. 3hours of which is audio/video streams. Tiny bit of gps. Lots of browsing, Forums, texts, etc..

I really do need to spend less time on my phone (I know) but at least it performs well!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] daniel4653:
My god I didn't know such a thing exists. I'll try this out during lunch.!!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
Oldie but a goodie.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
I heard iPhones work great under water. More of their users should try it out :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] daniel4653:
They do especially well in outer space. You should try it with your note 4 :P
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
However you would lose root upon updating correct?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
Note 4 no-term price is only $750 through Rogers. I'm curious what the Samsung store will charge me tomorrow as I'm with Telus and their prices are the same no matter the carrier.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SaHiLzZ:
99% sure that knox will trip.

Absolutely, unless used with OTA Keeper, if compatible.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] an_xda:
Will not be getting my phone until next week, even though they already have it. :(
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ToyMusha:
Does anyone know how many units is each store getting tomorrow??
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Twrp is out for tmobile variant. I wonder if this will work force Canadian? http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/266
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
Oh man I'm pissed right now. Samsung store calls me up asking if I still want the phone, who I'm with and if it's a renewal. I say yes that I'm with Telus and will be buying it no term. Because it's no term they suddenly no longer have a phone for me! I ask how many phones they received and he tells me he can't provide that information as per store policy. I tell him "I was told I was number 28 on the list are you telling me you didn't 28 phones". He tells me I was given the incorrect information. He also can't tell me what number I am due to store policy. Yeah nice try moron, absolute bull****. I'll be talking to the store manager tomorrow and he is going to get an earful. I won't give up hope yet because I want that damn s-pen but the Nexus just became very tempting.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
It seems like the phone companies are in it with samsung and only want contact money. This is some bs
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
I called one Telus store who told me they charge an extra $50 to no term customers and they just usually don't sell to them. On top of that their Note 4 was listed at $829.99 :eek:

I'm so amazed that a company as huge as Samsung would have policies in place that limit the sale of their phones to any specific customer base. I can't see them making more money per handset compared to a carrier subsidized phone ESPECIALLY when it comes to sales in their own stores. They're alienating part of their customer base and with the 6+ out and some waiting for the Nexus 6 I can't see this boding well for sales. You're ****ting the bed Samsung, step it up.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ToyMusha:
sigh... This reminds me why my previous and current phones are from Apple...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dbzgod:
Sadly a lot of "problems" and BS happens when new high end phones get release and there is a huge demand for them. A lot of places want to get contract sign ups/renewals for the commissions rather then sell the devices out right, however generally speaking you usually just half to fight through the crap and you end up getting the phone anyways.

When in doubt most 3rd party places will refer you to the main carrier stores stating that if you want to buy the phone outright your able to do so there. I don't pre order I always just walk into my Bell store of choice buy the phone outright and leave without issue.

Question, is the Samsung store your speaking of one of those "experience shops" inside a Futureshop or BestBuy? or did you pre order from the one and only actual Samsung Store we have in Canada at the metrotown mall in B.C.?

If its one of those shops inside BB/FS I'm not surprised at their reaction as they pretty much only care about the contract commissions and want as much stock as possible for that rather then letting some go on full buy outs.

As far as they are concerned they act just like any of the other 3rd party places like Wireless Wave and T-Booth etc, where they only want/like to sell for contracts. Even before the "experience shops" went up FS & BB's mobile section has always been notorious for this. Because of this I always just walk into my carriers store it has always been less hassle and mostly problem free to buy whatever phone you want out in full.

If you end up having to go to a Telus shop and they want the $829 price, point out how they so often advertise that they will price match any competitors prices on phones and point them to Rogers and Bell and you will get the lower price.

And just to make sure you get one just arrive early in the morning, its what I do and I've yet to have an issue on getting a phone nor had to wait for 2nd shipments.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] equlizer:
So are we bootloader unlocked as usual? Getting mine in 12 hours!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] vcallas:
I believe the Samsung store in West Edmonton Mall is also an actual Samsung store and they also appear to care more about selling on contract rather than outright.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ToyMusha:
There is one in the Richmond Centre too
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
It's the actual Samsung store in West Edmonton Mall. I've been lied to over and over from the staff over the last 2 months. There is no consistency in what I'm being told.

I found this http://www.telus.com/en/on/mobility/services/price-match/ but it talks about on a new commitment. I'll try pointing out that Rogers has the phone for $750 and see if they do anything.

The terrible thing is I have a course scheduled for tomorrow otherwise I would cut work :D. I'll have to wait until I'm finished and it better not run late like today or I'll be waiting another day. Oh first world problems haha.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dbzgod:
Just checked on Samsung's website, they are full stores, didn't know they opened up more full stores. Glad they are because I don't like the "experience shops" through BB & FS.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fritolays:
I did, ordered on the 17th.

It is no worries.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gbual:
That actually isn't samsung policy. Carrier stores are the problem. Google search and you will find many of the same stories of carrier stores doing that with the iphone. Apple & Samsung don't control what carrier stores do. You should call 611 and have the store rep talk to customer seevice because the Carrier policy is to sell to anyone contract or no contract. The store reps are paid commision to renew people. Your problem should be with the carrier store not the manufacturer. It is like buying a car. You deal with a dealership, not the manufacturer
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gqman69:
You know, I have been a note user for ever and this BS is really starting to get on my nerve.

Android will get most of the Note functions sooner than later (i.e.: Multi-Windows, Better HID (Pen, Mouse, Gestures), etc..).

Samsung needs to change their strategy or they will become the new Nokia. Adapt or die.

Apple does it better than anyone. I mean, Stores open at midnight for their products! They are master of marketing, hype and brainf**king.

Whatever, tomorrow I'll get my Note 4 from Futureshop and I don't care this time but I'm starting too.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
The iPhone was different though, Apple specifically mandated that anyone who wanted to buy a phone no-term (and unlocked) had to come directly to them for 3 months. This is why I didn't bother going through a carrier store, I thought hey I'll be smart and go directly to the manufacturer's store. I'll point out that Samsung told me before hand that they didn't care whether anyone was buying a phone on a contract or not. They went in order down the list and if they had a device you were good to go. Now they tell me they're only selling so many no term phones and the rest are for contracts. The guy I talked to said "don't bother lining up". I plan to be very polite when I call up the manager tomorrow and explain my frustration. Who knows maybe the employee I talked to was an idiot and they'll have a phone waiting for me.

Telus has them listed on their website now for $800 with free shipping by the way.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] golfinggino:
I odined the stock rogers rom from sammobile in an attempt to reset my finger prints registered on the phone by it didn't reset them and all my apps are still there I thought it would erase everything but it didn't. It did update the baseband anyone else have this issue?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Odin wont....doing a factory reset in the stock recovery will.Ive never seen odin wipe my devices.

"just say no to spoon feeding"
[Galaxy Note 4 General] golfinggino:
Thanks that worked
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fortesquieu:
Hello,

Does anyone have BOC4's stock kernel available for flashing? Either Odin or Recovery zip file will do.

Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] lebman1234:
Wow thats pretty good battery life considering how long your phone is in a wake state! I dont get nearly as much as that. Most of my battery life is taken from the android OS. I got about 20 hrs though. I used to get over a day with firekat
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
When I actually have "light" days and maybe only use 2.5 - 3 hors sot I get two days battery life no problem.

My wife accidentally re-updated the other Note4 *back* to LP after I flashed KK back so I'm gonna test it a bit and put it through its paces..

At first glance battery life does seem to be pretty good and comparable to kk but I have to use it several more days first.

The TW UI on top of LP is just U.G.L.Y..and I use Nova so that mitigates the ugly launcher.

I'm typically *pro* "material design" but maybe I have some more getting used to certain implementations of it..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] lebman1234:
Seriously 2 days on stock LP????!!! Wow maybe I need to factory reset mine....
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ongxa:
I am using N4_AEL Kernel_v11 . However, I tested by install back the stock kernel. AND Yes, This is Stock Kernel for BOC4. Extract and put boot.img file in SD card. Then use Flashify from Google Play to install. I WORKED. Have a good day.

http://xdaforums.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev/trltecan-n910w8-aoa1-stock-rooted-t3025538/page9
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
2 days stock KK.. even better on FK v11..

But I CAN'T BELIEVE what I'm about to show though.. Because my wife put LP back on I figured I'd use that phone for a few days and we'll today, the battery life is even better! This screenie is from earlier tonight..

I had been on battery for 14 hours.. Done mostly browsing, Forums, etc.. Bluetooth on most of it but only headset and only couple of calls.. 1hr video and 2 hours audio streams.. Brightness mostly 40-60%..

At time of ss I had 14hrs use - 7 hours of sot and was at exactly 50% left!

I'm blown away.. Didn't think I could do better.. Stock battery, only thing on that is probably only half the charge cycles then my normal note over past 6 months (whenever it was released) but that's not a big difference yet as both batteries still young..

This is insane

At present.. New stats are 17:10 total use.. 9.5hrs sot and 29% left...

Only real difference on this that I notice is os usage is 8% as opposed to 12-14% I normally see.. Wow