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[Galaxy Note 4 General] ronaldcheong:
I have tried to buy the phone from multiple Rogers locations but had no luck, none of them would sell it to me off contract (3rd party dealers, BestBuy, Futureshop, and even Rogers Plus). Am I going to the wrong places?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Kijiji man!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ronaldcheong:
All of the postings that I have seen were going for more than what Wind is charging. Either that or they were far from where I live. AND most of the postings were for unlocked Wind phones, so I figured why not just go to a Wind carrier rather than meeting up with someone off Kijiji? (I feel it's less sketchy). All I am scared of is the compatibility with the Rogers network as I have never bought an unlocked phone before.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
If you're Rogers Customer (meaning you have active account) , rogers corporate store has to sell you the phone for 799 plus tax. Only on launch day, they couldn't, wouldn't, as even if they wanted to, the system wouldn't accept the transaction. Third party dealers don't, including best buy, etc. Strange, I'm sure plus is corporate, at least they used to be. Things might have changed this year, with all the ****, the Brit is doing.

On kijiji Toronto on average, they go for 800 cash. So saving tax. Majority is wind locked.

Cheapest I've seen today, is 750, locked to telus, 775 unlocked, which is about right, as unlocking note 4 is typically 18-30, depending on provider.

Sent from my SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Hypercore:
I bought mine directly from the Samsung store in Metrotown. They're exactly like Wireless Wave or any other multi-carrier store, they sell models according to the carrier. My Note 4 came with all the Rogers bloat as well. I couldn't get one at first and asked if they could sell me a Telus model for a Rogers SIM (plan) and they said they couldn't do it. Sorry if this has been covered already but ten pages is a lot to read lol.

Rogers has the right to hold the phone for contract/account only upgrades and refuse to sell it outright for 90 days after launch. It's up to the managers discretion after the 30 day period. This is what I've gather after many, many many calls to Rogers tech support and many visits to multiple in store locations.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Of course, you could be right about corporate policies, things are always changing, and more often than not, for the worse. I got mine a day after launch in Rogers store, without issues. But someone else's experience might be vastly different. Few years back you could buy s3 and s4 from Rogers, without even needing a Rogers/Fido account.

Sent from my SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dbzgod:
Yeah exactly, its kinda dumb wish they would just sell factory unlocked and clean ones.

Rogers is always the one that gives the biggest issue in regards to this, a lot of them get stingy and don't like selling phones outright and want to hold out. Pretty much its standard unless special circumstances happen that all the 3rd party stores are contract only. You get directed to go to your carrier's store if you want to buy it full.

Since Rogers is the worse you pretty much just half to phone around to all the Rogers stores around you until you get one that wont be a grump about selling it outright and then there you go. Bell and Telus generally have a lot better attitude in this regard.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Hypercore:
Here's a little pro tip to those in Vancouver/BC, and probably most of Canada: If looking for a Galaxy Note 4 to purchase locally and

outright

,

make sure you go to a "Rogers Plus" location

. Don't go to a Digital Communications or any other rogers reseller, they don't have the access to the Rogers system that Rogers Plus stores do. Plus locations can actually sell them to you out right, they have the right to where somewhere like Digital Communications (every single Rogers in Metrotown is owned by DC) can't legally sell you the phone outright at the moment. If you live in Vancouver and have access to the skytrain there's one at Lougheed Mall, Brentwood Mall, and Highgate Village, those are the ones I know. They're also the only stores that accept cheques as payment so using the Rogers Store Locator with that filter gives you a list of every Rogers store that has the power to sell you a Note 4 outright.

The link to the Store Locator: http://www.rogers.com/web/content/store-locator

Click Wireless, scroll down and tick "Make a cheque payment". Call stores and get your Note 4.

I hope this helps.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
I finally took the leap and rooted my phone and I tried installing fire cat rom from tmo. Used ktkernel. Got in a bootloop mid configuration, twice. So I'm trying to install starkissed kernel and for the life of me I can't find it. Every link bounces me to another page. Smh. I feel like such a noob. Anyone have a link to the starkiss trltecan kernel?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jobin219:
Could someone tell me if the Wind Mobile Note 4 is region locked? If so, once I activate and use it with Wind, can it then be sim unlocked and used outside the country? Please and thank you.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] coolkecool:
No, region lock is for EU device only.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jobin219:
Oh that's good news
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
Why can't they legally sell you the phone?

I had to call several Telus stores before I found one willing to sell me my Note 4 outright on launch day, so Telus can still be a PITA. The Samsung store was the worst, I was livid after dealing with them. I wrote a big rant earlier in this thread.

I'm sure I haven't missed it but Samsung hasn't said anything about a date for Lollipop for our phones have they? I'm not holding my breath for anything before Christmas.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Yeah that happens sometimes, I don't know why. Did you get the link yet?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Dingchow:
https://mega.co.nz/#F!M1ZAVboY!l0j25FMY8Nfj-hb6Q0z9BA

The tmo one. Use flashify and install when your in your stock rom. Boot to TWRP and make back up of boot. Wipe and install tmo rom THEN RESTORE boot you just created and it wil not bootloop.

[ROM] ViSiON-X N4 [N910TUVU1ANJ7/N910W8VLU1ANJ3] [N910T/N910W8] [11-11-14] a really nice ROM for our N910W8. No restoring of boot needed. Just wipe, install and go.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Rekzer:
Is there a list of kernels we can flash after using Tmo roms that we know will work?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] asaqwert:
Just to confirm, we use the tmo roms and kernels like with the note 3?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Depends on the kernel - Twistedumbrella & Ktoonsez both have kernels that work for the North American Qualcomm devices.

Twistedumbrella has specific kernels for the trltecan - Obviously - That is the kernel to Flash
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Rekzer:
So ant tmo rom plus a twisted kernel should work?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
I don't know if "any" Tmo Rom will work - but it should.

You HAVE to flash the Rom & kernel in the same recovery session - or the phone won't boot!

Here's the link to Twistedumbrella kernel - You have to use Flashify to flash the img file for trltecan

https://goo.im/devs/playground/trltesku/

But you HAVE to flash this kernel zip along with the Rom FIRST!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pnqqx15kulgvya8/StarKissed-10-30-2014_19.23-trlte[can.NJ3].zip?dl=0

Ktoonsez kernel also works for the Canadian variants

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=56676100
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PUFNSTUF:
Currently thinking of upgrading my s3 to a note 4, and may be switching from rogers to telus in Manitoba. Anyone have experience here using their note 4's on either network? Hows the data connections on the phones with their network? Any issues with texts not being received?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
Thanks for the link. I ended up using Echo's kernel which I just flashed along with with Fire Kat. That Rom is amazingly smooth. Since I flashed it about 4 days ago I haven't had any lag, I mean ZERO, none at all. I'm very impressed.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Rekzer:
I had problems with picture messaging, and it turned out to be adblock.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Which kernel is that? Can you post a link? Thanks
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
I don't remember where I found it. I'll pm you a link from my drive OK?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] asaqwert:
Anyone tried Firekat? It looks awesome - I just tried darthstalker and I'm honestly not all that happy with it - lots of lag, as much or more than my note 3 had, so not horrible, but for a brand new phone, it's worse than it was with the stock samsung firmware....

maybe i have an app on it that it doesn't agree with, or something else, but i saw FK and want to try it - anyone do this already?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
The new dynamic Kat is ridiculous. So fast and smooth. Try that!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
Has anyone tried the XNOTE ROM yet? XNOTE was my daily driver during the note 3 days. I am not rooted yet but just wondering if anyone tried it yet.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Kaitlyn2004:
I just switched to Koodo and looking to replace my Nexus 4. A few questions!

1) Does it make any difference if I buy from Koodo or Telus?

2) Do they install extra bloatware on the device - if so, can it be removed?

3) Is there anywhere I am able to buy a legitimate unlocked/unbranded Note 4?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] farhanali_:
Hi All,

Please excuse my ignorance..

Is it possible for me to flash firekat v4 rom on my n910w8? My phone is rooted and I have twrp installed.

I am under the impression that I can install tmobile roms on my n910w8 but I would have to flash the anj3 kernal in the same twrp session?

I would greatly a appreciate it if someone can please point me to the right direction.

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sith78:
I want to sim unlock my phone but Telus charge 35$ for it...I was wondering if there was any recommended site to unlock...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markdexter:
Cellunlocker for sure is the best
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Wooba99:
I'm on koodo and bought a telus version. Worked no problem. The only bloat is the koodo self serve app, which I would have installed anyway.

I unlocked from a guy on eBay for about $16
[Galaxy Note 4 General] coremark:
Cellunlocker for sure. Cost me $15 on Rogers
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Kaitlyn2004:
Hmm but if you're on Koodo why did you even unlock it? You wouldn't have needed to?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Wooba99:
I've been know to cross the border on occasion
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sith78:
Just checked with cellunlocker....30$ pretty expensive!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fxneo84:
SM-N910C vs SM-N910U

Hey guys,

I am debating if I should go for SM-N910C vs SM-N910U for Exynos version.

I have been searching up the difference between these two, and it looks like

Version C

Supports Band 17 (700MHz) ; supported by US carriers and Rogers

Cat. 4

Version U

Supports Band 28 (700MHz)

Cat. 6

So I am assuming if I get Version C, I would get more coverage thus more signal strength in LTE service although I get only Cat.4 speed.

I am currently in Fido and travel in US a lot. Let me know which version I should get please. Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Snapdragon. More development and user friendly in North America.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
Has anyone found a way to fix the recent app button lag?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Dingchow:
FireKat works great just install kernel anfter install before first boot.

Is great but Messaging app pop up notifications crash messaging app

Xnote rom gives a NO SIM error so no DATA
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sith78:
Changing provider should lead in a wrong code... Don't you think?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dbzgod:
Changing providers for buying an unlock code will result in an incorrect code that doesn't work or straight up fail to process the order as the IMEI might be registered to the other providers as well.

The way the lock codes are created is that it takes the IMEI number as well as the code ID for the carrier it is locked to in combination with a few other things to SIM lock it, when unlocking it you half to select your correct carrier otherwise you will not get a proper code given to you from the database.

Best bet is to contact them asking why it is cheaper for Rogers over the others as its pretty much all the same thing when it comes to the unlocking process and getting access to Samsung's IMEI -> unlock code database.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dennka:
is there a good ROM that be used in CAD version of Note 4 without flashing kernel to TMO?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] note4me:
Using FireKat for more than a week, amazing speed and insane battery life. With mininal usage(checking emails, msging and a little fb), I got over 2 days, with 5 hrs screen time.

With frequent usage of youtube and playing games, I am now getting close to 33 hours with 6hour screen time.

The dev behind it always responds to your queries as well.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Yeah, Stock lol
[Galaxy Note 4 General] n3gkiwi:
For those who have installed TMO roms using Twistedumbrella's kernel can you post your exact instructions?

I hope someone can help as mine fails every time in TWRP. I followed the instructions below from his thread:

Start with NJ3 stock firmware

Odin Flash CF-AutoRoot

Odin Flash TWRP

Make a full backup

Wipe system, data, cache, dalvik-cache

Install N910T Rom

Reboot System

Reboot Recovery

Install Stockish / Deported

Reboot System

Thank force70 for the guide

http://xdaforums.com/note-4/unified-development/kernel-dealers-choice-t2915824

When I try to install the latest stockish kernal auto.zip it fails. Then I am stuck in a bootloop.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] emann56:
Did you turn off your fingerprints? People are having problems installing zips if you don't wipe your fingerprints. The fix is to fix permissions in TWRP.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] n3gkiwi:
No fingerprints. What version of TWRP are people using?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] n3gkiwi:
Odd, got it to work using TWRP 2.8.1.0 instead of TWRP 2.8.1.1... In case anyone else runs into the same issue.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RealtorRod:
Which version of FireKat are people people?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
Not sure if this is the right place this question but does anyone know if the Note 4 supports multiple users accounts?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] crimsondr:
Anyone know how I can turn off the red led when charging on Telus Note 4? I can't find the setting...

Also looks like Telus hid the SIP menu. I can't find SIP settings anywhere but when I try to make a call it asks if I want to make an internet call or mobile. I choose internet and then it complains about no SIP accounts and brings me to the SIP settings page. I configured an account and now I can't get back to it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] skyeking69:
Hey n3gkiwi

If you don't mind could you give us a run down on how you installed FireKat...especially the Kernel upgrade......that was a bit confusing

for a person at my still level........ And are you happy with FireKat ?? Thanks!!!!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jobin219:
Forgive me for the most noob question, but with firekat do we lose any important features? Especially Samsung tw specific such as multi window? I don't have a note 4 yet, but hoping to purchase one for Christmas. Really interested in the battery life people are getting with firekat, honestly I can live with tw lag. Currently have a Wind s3 that I rooted using towel root, no other roms, and so very little experience in the normal root and flashing rom process. Thanks eh
[Galaxy Note 4 General] n3gkiwi:
Mega (the developer of FireKat) has Canadian instructions on there that should work even better now:

- Make sure you have NJ3 stock firmware

- Odin Flash Root and then Flash TWRP 2.8.1.0 per fritolays post: http://xdaforums.com/note-4/general/ref-stock-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2920452

- With TWRP backup. This saves you in case anything goes wrong

- Flash twistedumbrella's Stockish Kernel

- Reboot Into TWRP and wipe cache, dalvik, system, and data (important, do not do a dirty flash)

- Flash Firekat v4 Canadian version (which is kernel free)

- Let the rom sit for 15 minutes after reboot to let it settle

For some odd reason TWRP 2.8.1.1 did not work for me to flash twisted umbrella's kernel.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] oh-beacon:
Cat 6 compatible on Rogers?

When I look at the second last line on the picture, it says CA is supported, CAT 6. Does that mean the n910U is CAT 6 (LTE-A) compatible on Rogers?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] skyeking69:
Thanks Dude

Do you have a link for the Stockfish Kernel.....can't seem to find it ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] n3gkiwi:
You can download it from his website. Go to Downloads and you should see a link there:

http://loungekatt.no-ip.biz:3194/Playground/index.html#statistics

Below is the thread fro XDA with more info:

http://xdaforums.com/note-4/unified-development/kernel-dealers-choice-t2915824

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I have seen some posts here and there saying that the Echo kernel and the Ktoonsez kernel work with Canadian models with T-Mobile roms. Anyone have success with these other two? Looking more for stability versus customization/CPU boosting.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] skyeking69:
Thanks again......but are you having stability problems with Stockfish?...... Think I'll hold off a while until more people are on

the Canadian FireKat.......
[Galaxy Note 4 General] n3gkiwi:
I switched back to stock - for warranty replacement, nothing to do with the rom.

Lots of Canadian seem to be using it (and/or other roms). I think that rom is completely stable. I think it comes down to stability of the custom kernel. I am not sure which is the most stable kernel and which version. Hopefully as development goes we will get a go to one.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_4_gets_a_stabilityoriented_update-news-10277.php

Any idea when can we get this update?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fortesquieu:
only $15 on Rogers??
[Galaxy Note 4 General] coremark:
Yup. It was $15 on Rogers when I got it back on Oct 24th. I just checked my PayPal receipt just now. Not sure if it's gone up since then. I read some Telus users reporting it was $30.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Traditionally, Bell and Telus have been close to 30 for note and Fido and Rogers 15. Blame it on greedy guys that leak codes. Also 15 at this time is 18 Canadian.

I personally usually use quickphoneunlock, but sadly they didn't have code for my first note, they refunded promptly, so went with cellunlocker. Second one, I went straight to cellunlocker.

QPU has advantage of usually being cheaper and they charge us and Canadian 1:1.

Sent from my SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] g2tegg:
You switched back to stock for warranty replacement? Isn't your Knox tripped?

Anyways, I've tried a few rom/kernel combos. I'm currently using FireKat with ktonnsez kernel. Everything is running smooth, no lag and no reboots. I also used the AEL (Echo) kernel with FireKat and it ran pretty good. I can't personally say which one is better yet, but both are solid with this setup.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] stephengillon:
nothing to see here
[Galaxy Note 4 General] skyeking69:
I agree....I guess it's still early...hopefully we'll here about stable kernels that will work with FireKat.....another other Roms

Soon I hope!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dbzgod:
A fair number of N910C models just got it today as well, it looks like its probably a wide scale update for all Note 4's, if so then we should see it updated to our Canadian model in a few days most likely , its the weekend now though so I wouldn't expect it till sometime next week. But you never know I've seen firmware updates pushed Saturday mornings.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
A bit optimistic maybe but then again this only small firmware update and not an OS update so should be soon nonetheless.

As for something like Android 5.0 that one will be *months* after any official release for the device is put out elsewhere.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dbzgod:
Yeah generally speaking we see a lot of delays here but I'm only guessing this as it falls under the same category as the wide update for the battery drain fix all Note 4's got.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Is the Bluetooth on N4's really this bad? Or just certain variants?

Dunno if it's the software or firmware but it just seems poorly designed.

I've tested four different phones now and they all do the same thing and have intermittent connectivity to speakers. Tested several speakers too.

If just connecting speaker first then launching media after, it seems to always wait a long time to get audio if at all, until I quickly reset the speaker and then when it reconnects it will play the media immediately.

There are occasional re-connects to the device while playing. If having paused music or stopped for a while then launching again, I typically have to reset the speaker again to get media playing back.

Never seen this behaviour before on other phones but now on four N4's so can't be coincidence. Has to be something here.

Many report lag too.

Is it possibly this bad stock right from manufacturer and firmware update needed or just hit and miss or what?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PearsonDKA:
In regards to the update ( I also may be a little late here) when I got home from work yesterday I was prompted to update my N4 with a patch that was 33.93mb. Looking now it's dated October 10th. Anyone know what it is?

Sent from the Galaxy Note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] n3gkiwi:
Yeah knox is tripped. I am hoping they will not care or notice when I swap the device.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ciscostud:
Show up in a wheel chair with a patch on your eye. Maybe they will feel sorry for you.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] n3gkiwi:
It's a device swap. They are sending me a new one and I send this one back by mail. Anyone think this will be a problem with my knoxx being tripped?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] g2tegg:
Only one way to find out I guess. What type of issues are you having with the phone?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] n3gkiwi:
Just some major lag. It is especially noticeable when typing (big time stutters between words, even when deleting text). Doesn't matter which keyboard I use. I have tried restoring but nothing seems to work.

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Question, anyone think it is worth it to use triangle away? I plan to restore it to complete stock when I return.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] g2tegg:
Mine lags on stock big time. Now that im custom rom its much much better. Triangle away wont reset the trip counter
[Galaxy Note 4 General] n3gkiwi:
Mine lags big time regardless of custom rom. I tried that. The typing lag is noticeably bad. Worse than my S4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] g2tegg:
Not surprised. Let me know if the replacement is any better.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
I just wish Samsung would give us the options what to install and what not to install when you first setup the phone. It doesn't make sense to keep those features that I never use installed. Too many useless features.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Canadoc:
I would say the Videotron version I just purchased.

There is no carrier bloat at all with the exception of a single shortcut on the homescreen for their portal which takes 1 second to delete
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zurkx:
no my 910u connects via umts only
[Galaxy Note 4 General] skyeking69:
Any deals on 128gb Micro cards this Black Friday weekend for us Canadians??
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
I was checking the same thing and this deal is so tempting

http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=111527403119
[Galaxy Note 4 General] asaqwert:
I wonder if those are legit. I'd much rather buy an SD card from a known legitimate vendor, anyone know of any deals in Canada?

Also are there any particular brands that aren't working out well for people?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
Oh its very much legit. Because the brand description is SANDISK. And once you rcv the product you can register it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] skyeking69:
Bought that same card off of Kijiji last week....didn't work....Lucky I got my cash back..

Wouldn't touch that auction!!