yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Other SmartWatches] muffinimal:
Wow, you've got quite some plans for this phone. It seems to me that you won't find the functionality you are looking for in this phone, but I'll follow your progress on this one. I am more than willing to be pleasantly surprised.

Some answers to your questions:

- I live in NL: 3G connectivity (it shows up on the status bar; I haven't tried testing the speed, but I think there was some mention on 3G elsewhere in this thread.

- Activating the phone without touching the button: two ways that I am using: My watch turns off at a certain time and it wakes up at a certain time using standard Android functionality. Furthermore swapplink has a feature to turn on the screen of the phone when a push (I have stopped using this due to battery drainage, but I can confirm this works) or bluetooth (haven't tried) message arrives. Is this a satisfactory answer?

Some other thoughts:

- my experience is that the battery power of the device is quite poor. If you are seriously considering using it as a mini-computer, you should definitely need an external power supply (like the solar panels or a USB charger).
[Other SmartWatches] bernsbe:
Q&A summary update

Hi,

Just an update based on information I collected so far:

Probably solved:

Multiple bluetooth usage is possible

3G is available at 2100 in Benelux. I have this from an informational site.

Using external CIRF bluetooth receiver should be a viable backup

Further request to share experience Starting without using the buttons :

Seems to be possible, though might require power, and that's where the watch comes short of I would say

Meanwhile I've read an interesting article on phonearena. Anybody tried "gravity unlock", "proximity actions" or "shake screen on/off"?

I've also noticed that some phones have "double tap to wake" functionality (this would be kernel rather than app based, so would drain battery less, I presume)

Still open:

Is it possible to do miracast?

Can the USB connector be connected for USB OTG (on the go), to wire connect drives and other tools via a hub?

Anybody tried aMPdroid App on it?

Anybody tried SqueezePlayer App / Squeezebox App on the device?

Anybody knows about a wearable USB charging system?

Anybody tried keeping power up with "wearable something else"?

New on the list (and related to power : Can one wear this device from morning (6 AM) until evening (7 PM), use it primarily as watch/agenda without a re-charge? What is your experience?

Looking forward to read your thoughts.

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Hi again,

I've just left a reply on the imacwear m7 post as well.

Any good reason not to go for that phone instead of the ZGPAX S8?

Has anyone got experience with both?

Cheers.
[Other SmartWatches] dev131:
I have tried the OTG cable with no success.

Shake on off does work quite well

I have loaded Google now launcher and use it for

reminders

voice Internet searches

Open apps hands free

Directions map and street view

Not using bluetooth has really made a difference in battery

A small lipstick charger will get you through the day should you get low

I typically can get through the day on a charge
[Other SmartWatches] max-79:
Maybe i ' ve missunderstood , but. . where did You find the "shake on/of " and gravity proximity setting? Did you root the phone?

And what about the setting of a new lock screen ( like a weather clock for example )?

Do you use a specific launcher?

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] dev131:
Here are my steps

Installed new firmware now on build s8 alps.kk1.mp7.v1.51417513043

Factory reset

Installed twisted home launcher

Installed apex launcher

Set apex launcher as default home using twisted home

Attach bluetooth keyboard

Installed Google home launcher

Run Google home launcher

Will need to update the Google app

Will need to update Google play services

Then you get welcome screen for Google now launcher

Tab 3 times on bluetooth keyboard and hit enter

Shake on off is a app from play store to turn watch on with a flick of the wrist

I have not rooted the phone

Status bar is not visible

My work around is to launch twisted home pick stock launcher access my status bar then tap home to return to Google now launcher.

GPS has not had the fixes but I use the Hotspot for GPS

I use this with a WiFi Hotspot as my digital personal assistant
[Other SmartWatches] scorpioo42:
Yes ...working again

:D My S8 is back on my wrist working as it should :D

Got the new Micro usb cable , installed it in the watch , swapped the "old "sd card for a new 32 gig on the way .

all working as a charm.:good:

Still not knowing how to change clockfaces .... don't like the clockfaces that come with it much.

Is there a app for this that works with our watch ?

I allready turned off the own clockface as explained by r1_rydah
[Other SmartWatches] xstarbuckx:
Get swapp link you can use the clock faces I'm running the LCARS atm and it looks good
[Other SmartWatches] max-79:
I have the same problem, cannot change the lock screen clock. I would like to set a weather clock lock screen , but i've not been able with nova launcher
[Other SmartWatches] xstarbuckx:
Have you tried swapp link as that's what I'm using on my completely stock watch
[Other SmartWatches] max-79:
No, i didn't try that. Does "Completely stock" mean that you have rooted the phone?
[Other SmartWatches] xstarbuckx:
No unrooted just as the day it was born
[Other SmartWatches] scorpioo42:
Got swapp link installed now .

Nice watchfaces but isn't as simple to activate and get to work as on watch app "lock screen ".

I wish I knew hoe to get watchfaces in that app so I can choos more clockfaces in that app..much more easyer.

Tip : I use "Myphone explorer " http://www.fjsoft.at/en/ so I can get on the S8 with my pc.

Can do almost anything, contacts, copy,paste,delete,etc etc

This way I might figure out where the Lockscreen app is located and how the faces look like etc.:p
[Other SmartWatches] xstarbuckx:
Trying to remember the way I did it. I think it's just a simple case of just going through set and turning everything off apart the lock screen option if you only want the clocks. Then it's as simple as clock face option select the one you want and set it. At least that's how it goes for me. Then whenever I unlock my screen it displays the face I've chosen
[Other SmartWatches] plplplpl:
Also works and looks good on my IKWear IK8.:D

Just wish there were a weather + time clockface.
[Other SmartWatches] dev131:
Why not just use a clock widget. The first thing I did was disable my lockscreen and add zooper widget and use the digital clock that looks like the back to the future.

And weather is one swipe away using Google now cards.

Check this video

Zgpax s8 running Google now launcher: http://youtu.be/RR20c2TwS_k
[Other SmartWatches] Zaiaku:
I couldn't get the google launcher to act right, couldn't make it the default nor couldn't get it to go through after it said everything ok.
[Other SmartWatches] xstarbuckx:
Same here with Google now launcher
[Other SmartWatches] Zaiaku:
Had anyone tried lowering the brightness down? I'm testing out how long the battery can last me on a single charge and started noticing the watch is bright as hell. I'm hoping lowering it would help the battery.
[Other SmartWatches] janek69:
S8 camera sample pictures

Here is some (not good,but acceptable) sample picture with S8 old camera.

I think, the new camera better.
[Other SmartWatches] giol:
I use zooper as well but the screen seems blurry when I make a custom widget. Do you have the same problem?
[Other SmartWatches] dev131:
Yes it is hard to see the custom effects I just used a clock already made.

Your talking about using the custom settings I believe
[Other SmartWatches] webman2k:
Hello all,

Just wanted to share my experience with the watch phone. I ordered from dealsmachine.com, and got it in about a week. Out of the box, everything is working very well. Came with google play services 4.3.x, and that updated fine. GPS lock in Maps is near instant. Haven't tried the camera yet, but I'm thinking I got a newer model, or at least one with pre updated firmware. It seemed to come with developer options enabled as well.

I'm surprised at how well and smooth everything functions. Downloaded a few of my favorite apps without a problem, and everything works, with only one exception.

I installed Google Play Music, since thats what I use to store my music. It installed fine, and launches fine, but the first screen asks you to choose an account. Problem is the account I need to tap is just below the bottom of the screen, and drag scrolling won't let me move down to select it. I know that if I can just get past this screen everything will work.

Any ideas? Thanks for any help you can give.
[Other SmartWatches] xstarbuckx:
I have the same problem with play music can't figure how to get around it.
[Other SmartWatches] Samkln:
I with the old model, I updated the rom and Google Play Service works good. I have some question:

1. By mistake I discovered that I can take screenshot by pressing Power button + Home button for 2sec, and It saves the screenshots in the gallery :D Is that an updates in the new rom that all have?

2. What launcher actually works with ZGPAX S8 smartwatch?

3. How I can make the smartwatch into a mirror of my smartphone so I could receive the calls, sms, whatsapp to the watch also?
[Other SmartWatches] bernsbe:
I didn't order the phone (... yet?), so the ideas have not been proven to function.

Few pages back I asked for possibilities with the phone watch, mainly in respect to connectivity.

Following that post I understood that by the looks of things it is possible to connect the phone watch to a bluetooth mouse.

I'm still wondering if miracast works. If you have a relatively new TV, you could give that a shot, using the TV as a screen might give you the controls.

Some people here are using a tool called "mobizen".

Curious to find out ...

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Hi,

I have positive experience with an app called timeriffic on an android 2.3.5 android phone.

The function I most like is the airplane mode toggle.

Here is the use case based on a combination of the ZGPAX S8 (unning android 4.4) and this function.

A student is supposed to turn off the phone at school. So, using timeriffic, 5 minutes before class timeriffic could turn the phone watch to airplane mode and 15 minutes passed last lesson could turn off airplane mode. This would allow for the ZGPAX S8 to be used as a regular watch during the day (and also conserve energy), and also the risk of the phone being confiscated because the student simply forgot to switch airplane mode on.

I've understood that as of android 4.2 the possibility to toggle airplane mode from an app is not present any more (at least not if the phone is not rooted).

Anyone tried this (or something similar) on a non rooted (or on a rooted) version?
[Other SmartWatches] webman2k:
Now here's something interesting, I ran Kingo root so I could try the xposed module app settings, and the app told me that it was already rooted. This was a brand new sealed phone, so I'm guessing they root it to update the firmware, and leave it rooted? Interesting. I don't see a root manager program installed. Will I need one for posed?

EDIT: It wasn't rooted, I just messed up the root process I think. Clicked Root Again, and it ran everything through to the end, and installed SuperSU.
[Other SmartWatches] osukhanoff:
It has'nt compass function!

6 /03/15 - 14:26

To: Volver

From: Smartwatch (Andy) sales@andalong.com

V: HAS S8 COMPASS?

SW: Sorry, It have not that kind of function, friend.

Best regards

Sales Manager

Andy Loi
[Other SmartWatches] janek69:
Which firmware have you got. In my watch the compass work very well.
[Other SmartWatches] osukhanoff:
888.

My compass not work.

But factory answered me about this smartphone at all.
[Other SmartWatches] webman2k:
UPDATE: Xposed + app settings was the perfect fix for this. The only tricky part was granting root access to Xposed during installation, as the "Grant" button on the SuperSU prompt only gave me 2 pixels of height to try and press before the timer ran out. Fun game ;)

Once that was set, I set the DPI to 100 for Google Play Music, and there was my account to press. Everything else functions perfectly. This same process works great for other apps, which had buttons hidden due to the general DPI. great thing to keep installed in case I ever run into the problem again.

So now I only have one irritating issue - my bluetooth headset doesn't work. I have a bluetooth speaker that works fine for podcasts and music, but my headset, while triggering an answer to a call, doesn't route the call audio. I can answer and hang up, but no audio. Not sure if this is a gzpax thing, or an android to my headset thing, but it's a fairly common jabra headset.

Found a "bug" with the built in launcher. If you drag to delete a system app, it will give you the error that it can't be deleted, but remove it from the launcher. I quoted the "bug" part because I actually like this, as some of the system apps I'll never use, and I can use this to hide them. To unhide the apps, you'll need to clear data on the launcher, which can be a pain in the butt if you have things organized, so be careful with that.

The built in dialer doesn't have any speed dial options. Any good solutions for that?
[Other SmartWatches] janek69:
You have the newest S8. Please check your camera. If your camera can take 4:3 shots e.g. 1600x1200 then you have new S8.

ZGPAX modified the configuration of S8. When i bought it then they say (lie) 5Mpx camera and e-compass....

The e-compass true the 5Mpx camera not! Now i can't see the e-compass and i see 2Mpx camera. in the modified specification.
[Other SmartWatches] osukhanoff:
Yes! 1600x1200 camera. But how connect this new camera and magnetic sensor :-?

If i will downgrade to earliest firmware?

Can i use compass in this case?
[Other SmartWatches] janek69:
I don't know. If zgpax not modified the mainboard,just only the camera then i think yes (work) and then i think they are idiots,because in this situations they not compile the compass driver.

Here you can see the old specifications.

5 MP camera and

Supports Wi-Fi, AGPS, Bluetooth, GPS and FM radio,Compass Sensor

FM radio: Haha. :D
[Other SmartWatches] osukhanoff:
May be later ? New firmware >888 ?

:-\
[Other SmartWatches] r1_rydah:
I use contacts+ it's better functionally and aesthetically than the stock contact manager / dialer..
[Other SmartWatches] webman2k:
So my Bluetooth headset - Jabra classic - just doesn't want to work reliably. I have it set as a phone audio device, with no luck. It connects, answers, hangs up, but doesnt route audio to the device. Maybe I'll try another brand.

One issue I'm having is with the camera. The pictures come out fine, but because of the placement of the camera I have to end up tilting my phone downwards to get a shot in front of me. This activates the gyro sensor to rotate the screen, which results in an upside down picture. I don't see auto rotate settings anywhere, and the camera is missing in xposed app settings. Any ideas?
[Other SmartWatches] osukhanoff:
compass in 888 fail

May be can edit config file and downoad compass driver to system folder?

may be compass will work after that?

What do you think?
[Other SmartWatches] webman2k:
Another mild annoyance, the contacts (people) app doesn't label the phone numbers, so if a contact has multiple, I don't know which one is which. Is there a way to turn labels on, or should I just grab a new contacts app?
[Other SmartWatches] minicounter:
Companion to smart phone

Please forgive this newbie for asking a basic question but my research has given me conflicting answers.

Can the zgpax s8 be used without the SIM card as a companion smart-watch through bluetooth?

My carrier is Verizon so sharing a SIM card is out.

I have been looking at the MY01021 as well which I understand is designed to work this way and has the supporting management APK for the phone

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] xstarbuckx:
Yes it can be used without a sim but at least in the UK sims are free so just banged one in and use it as a back up. As for a companion watch this is really a mini phone but using 3rd party apps like swapp link you can do a lot of companion type things
[Other SmartWatches] hotboy_92:
Lock screen and SWAPP link

I haven't had any luck actually replacing the lock screen. I tried turning it off and putting a widget on the home screen (with the wonderful UCCW), but it often didn't update the time, so became an annoyance I like the lock screen in terms of just a quick button press, then shows the time, then a few seconds later it turns off.

Does SWAPP link allow this sort of functionality, or is it just a home screen clock replacement? I use (and like) the Google Now launcher.

Thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] piechucki:
Auto rotation

When I turned off auto rotation Handcent SMS, it (rotation) stopped working throughout the device (without root).

Maybe someone this information useful.
[Other SmartWatches] webman2k:
That's interesting, but I'd rather not install a text program I don't need to get at this setting. I use hangouts for messaging. It's as if the auto-rotate checkbox is hidden from the settings / display menu. However, since this is just KitKat, there must be another way to toggle this setting, which would apply to the camera as well. Interesting that the camera app is missing from AppSettings.
[Other SmartWatches] webman2k:
Also, can anyone recommend a bluetooth headset for calls that works reliably with this watch? I have a Jabra Classic that just doesn't seem to want to work all the time.
[Other SmartWatches] xstarbuckx:
I use these with mine

http://eu.banggood.com/Wholesale-Wa...Sport-Headphone-Headset-Mic-wp-Uk-948604.html

Got them from the UK warehouse worked so well I brought the father in law a pair
[Other SmartWatches] webman2k:
Update: I tried one of the rotation lockers from the play store. Upon launching it, it gave me confirmation that it unlocked orientation, meaning that it's already locked, but the setting is hidden. This means that none of these apps will work, since I'm already locked to portrait.

Since I'm rooted, is there something I can edit/change specific to the camera app that will lock it in portrait?
[Other SmartWatches] Federicoz45:
Camera Issue after firmware update

Hi, I've updated the firmware on S8 and all works, also rooted with Kingo.But now the camera doesn't work.

It says: "impossible to connect to the camera".

Is a known issue for others?

The GPS may work standalone or always a connection is needed?

I use H3G Italy and no troubles with 3G and IMEI.
[Other SmartWatches] piechucki:
S8 are two versions: the "old" and "new" and you must upload to other rom's. This is described already in this thread - you search.
[Other SmartWatches] Federicoz45:
Other firmware

Sorry but I didn't found anybody mentioning a different firmware in this thread. Can you address me where to read about?
[Other SmartWatches] piechucki:
Old firmware 1417513043

New firmware https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36714219/S8_1418886436.rar
[Other SmartWatches] bernsbe:
Maybe read from about page 45 and then a few pages onward.

I'm preparing for reception of my device (was ordered yesterday). I'll report my experience over here.
[Other SmartWatches] Federicoz45:
Now is clear...
[Other SmartWatches] Federicoz45:
This new firmware ended in an error during updating with sp flash tool.

Now the watch is dead and don't do nothing. Is there a way to restore the situation?

Are you sure that this firmware is good?
[Other SmartWatches] piechucki:
Except camera all working ok on the new S8. New - all is ok.
[Other SmartWatches] Federicoz45:
Please can you tell me the procedure?

May I did something wrong with sp flash tool?
[Other SmartWatches] piechucki:
Standard flash, nothing special.
[Other SmartWatches] Federicoz45:
Anyway I've reanimated the watch desoldering the battery and then replug it back.

It resets and capaple of recovery. For safety, still used the december 2014 firmware.

But the camera is not working....
[Other SmartWatches] piechucki:
You tried with the other firmware?
[Other SmartWatches] janek69:
We have two versions of S8 and we have 3 versions of firmware.

Watch:

1st version, older model

The camera unknown resolution. It can take 1:1 aspect ratio 1728*1728 and 2208*2208px pictures.

2nd version, newer model

The camera 2Mpx and can take 4:3 aspect pictures, e.g. 1600*1200px

Firmware :

For 1st model we have 2 firmware versions. In older firmware the google services not working, the second firmware sold it.

For second model we have 1 firmware which can use the new camera, Google services working. In this firmware the compass not working.

If you replace the firmware between the two watch then the camera will not work!

Sorry for my English.
[Other SmartWatches] Zaiaku:
Had the watch for a while and loving it. Using it on T-mo right now but their coverae here is horrible but hey its only $1 for a whole month unlimited everything so I can deal with it. Be nice for different roms. Can't decreasae brightness less then the currentl minimum. Making it almost a whole work week with a single charge. Overall really happy with this watch.
[Other SmartWatches] kgonepostl:
Ok, I've read enough, about 20 pages or so. I haven't ordered this watch yet, but now that Google services is properly running I'm heavily considering buying one! Somebody clarify my confusion

1.) Does the new firmware update work on both models? Or are the firmware updates independent for the old and new model?

2.) Do I have to open up the watch and remove the battery to perform a successful firmware update? That sounds kind of lame that I'd have to disassemble a watch just to do a firmware update

3.) Seems like people are having problems with 8.1 x64. Do I have to do anything special to get update tools to work with 8.1 x64?

4.) My phone can only be upgraded to android jellybean, will there be any incompatibilities I should be aware of since this watch runs android Android kitkat?

4.) What are the downsides (if any) to getting the newer model that was released early this year?

5.) How can you tell the difference between the original model and the upgraded model!? Btw, this is the one I'm thinking about buying but I can't tell if it's the upgraded model or the original model!!!

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/ZGPA...acitive-Touch-Screen-WIFI-3G/32274543536.html

THANKS!
[Other SmartWatches] bernsbe:
I'm using information acquired (and the summary of janek69 just above also helped just a tiny bit ;)), putting some logic to practice. (Anybody: If I'm wrong feel free to correct me)

1) The old firmware can be put on the new phone, then the camera will not work. The new phone doesn't have compass features enabled. There is no advantage on putting the firmware of the new watch on the old watch. If you use the second firmware on the old watch, everything is supposed to be working fine.

2) The downside of this phone is that the battery is soldered (and is relatively weak). Only if a system reset is required, de-soldering helps for a complete reset. Question is: can this kind of reset be started without a soldering unit. (Anybody: further advise on how to reset is welcome)

3) Don't know if anyone succeeded in rooting the phone with W8.1. (Anybody: further advise on how to do that is welcome) If W8.1 is causing a problem, then there are alternatives. In anticipation of arrival I have a W7 machine geared up. (There are ways to boot a W8.1 machine from an external hard disk and have it run W7 if you realy only have one machine)

4) Assuming you refer to the second version hardware with the shipping firmware: compass doesn't work. (If you're in the US, 3G will also not work, because it sits on another frequency, this is valid for all models)

5) Looking at the information provided, it would be an 8GB TF equiped first hardware device with a 1:1 aspect ratio camera (and working compass?). I'm not able to tell if it's the first or second firmware. As the phone has a 8GB TF odds would be the second firmware, I would say