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[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
Two more days and i will have my monster note 4. I can just imagine how beautiful the screen would be
[Galaxy Note 4 General] geovass:
Where did you get it from?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
Im from the philippines. Bought it here from the grey market. Cost 35k php
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Dont know. Could be but I am sceptic about that. I think limit will be always there.

Will try with sd card, just had to find one. Habent used them for years.

Good choice :D

Report back how you like it
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
Yahh will post pictures also[emoji4]
[Galaxy Note 4 General] avenging:
no note edge from the grey market? hehe
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
Haha not yet.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Hi can u check thermal throttling too in store i tried on demo units 1 minute 4k hd record pushed temped to 35c (checked with cpu z) and after did antutu test scores were downed to 25k on total gpu and cpu scores were half if you can try we can see how exynos version handle heat.

( exynos was always better on thermal throttling even though it was heating more on note 3 still was throttling later)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] avenging:
did you get it in greenhills? i heard note edge is not coming to the philippines
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
From kimstore. Online shop
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Tried it before.

Benchmark results goes down, but not that much. Antutu was lower for about like 5000 points.

Dont even know how is that even important for everyday usage.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nomojo:
was lictoc

I did not see, but if already answered in thread, no need to respond...

1) While holding the Note 4 in the store it seemed like the edges of the metal band surrounding the phone were somewhat irritating on the hand. Do you find the phone comfortable to hold?

2) How is the fingerprint reader as far as ease of use and accuracy?

Thanks.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Ye 5k is nothing but in snapdragon version( atleast on demo unit) lag was alot and score downed to 25k . So it throttled very hard thats why i wondered ur exynos 1.

And i asked like twice but u didnt see i guess can you try gfxbench (manhattan tests enough) i cant find results in thread and gamebench on gta san andreas (max settings) would be awesome so we can see actual fps in games
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Here are my results
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Thanks alot mate
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Sorry mate, always forgot to test that.

Nice one. Did not know you got one also.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ipmanwck:
Ois is a little disappointing. Lumia range has great ios and my z2 with steady shot looks better. :( hoping it's just software related and can be improved?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Ois is hardware feature.

Doubt it can be improved with software.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
You are wellcome :P

Yep, I got it yesterday xD
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
How you like it for now?

Which version you got? Does opening recent apps also takes few seconds to open?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
Unless software can be tweaked to make better use of the OIS, for example by decreasing shutter speed.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Doubt it can be done in stock Samsung camera app. Maybe some 3rd larty app could use it better
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
Yep, or maybe samsung will update it at some point hopefully. Do you have any low light samples you've uploaded and do you find the OIS reduces camera shake?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
I love it, but not the metalic frame xD

Well it opens almost instantly but it takes like one sec to charge the "cards". Sometimes there is a bit of lagg with the recent apps.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
I have some samples. I have uoloaded here I believe.

Low light without flash are not good. With flash photos in low light are good.

Ois reduces camera shake, but nit very much. Its better, but of course, there is no software that can reduce shake completely.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] an_xda:
The metal frame is sharp and very solid, similar to the Galaxy Alpha - it is almost bothersome sometimes...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Exactly, I don't enjoy it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] an_xda:
How is the fingerprint sensor? As consistent as TouchID?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
I think it is a bit better than the S5 but not as good as the TouchID.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] toadsurfer:
Agree with earlier posts re the screen colour modes. Basic and photo are very yellow.

Worse is that there is severe colour shift when the screen is viewed just slightly off head on. It goes very blue.

It's still a great screen but in my view, aside from the resolution, it seems a step back from my s5.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Finally somebody to agree about yellowish :D

And yes, while changing viewing angle contrast and colors are changed a little bit going bluish like you said.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] an_xda:
Well, I guess nothing compares to TouchID. Taking that away, does it consistent work when you swipe the sensor? TIA!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Well... you have to do it slowly and in the right way to perfectly work xD
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Like every other sensor :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
I know, but a lot of people complain about it, I just wanted to remember that it is not magical xD
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
And they complain but still dont use it.

Most common thing :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Completely true xD
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iggibar:
Glad to see relatively positive thoughts on the Note 4. Currently have an iPhone 5s, and have had the Note 2, Note 3, along with a few other iPhones. I have been waiting patiently for the Note 4! Preordered one on Amazon and can't wait for it to get delivered. Have already played with it at Best Buy enough times that they just laugh when they see me again. LOL
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Zihdar:
Delboy

Thanks a lot for your patience and support

Best regards
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
This made laugh :D

Report back when you get it with likes and dislikes

No problem mate.

Just ask if you have questions
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mikesnav:
Are you still experiencing a delay/lag with the recent apps and recent apps button? One of the few things I dislike about my note 3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] s.morris:
If its anything like the Samsung Galaxy TabS, its a bit of a pain, even though you can have 3 fingerprints log with 10 different swips per fingerprint it still didn't work great, This is the Galaxy Tab S, hopefully Note 4 as improved on this but I doubt it
[Galaxy Note 4 General] adampa1006:
What are thoughts about the "wakelag"? Pressing the home or power/standby button on my Note 2, it takes about 1-3 seconds for the screen to actually turn on.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Yes. I have mentioned it few times. Opening recent apps is only lag on Note 4. It can take up to few seconds, depend on what are you doing at the moment.

Only thing that annoys me, but thankfully I am not using recent apps very often.

There is no wakelag. When you press the button screen turns on.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Rican:
If anyone is looking for options, found this link from t-mobile.

http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-14625

I was worried that they dropped DLNA, but it's still there :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] JimSmith94:
If it's like the Note 3, turn off the double tap home button for S-Voice. When you press the home button, it's waiting to see if you're going to press it again.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] MrBigKid:
Thanks

DelBoy,

I am among the legions of drooling phone nerds waiting on this to drop. And I have no questions for you.

I must say that with a nit here and a fps there, a percentage of this and a degree of that, I have most definitely come to the conclusion that I will be most happy with my Note 4. No it's not perfect and it can be knocked and debated about for many little things, but over all it sounds like an outstanding device that will offer loads of fun and enjoyment. Nothing will ever be perfect, especially here on XDA, but this comes close enough for me. For now. :cowboy:

I just wanted to take a moment and express my thankfulness for your being so open and descriptive with your impressions of your phone.

Your willingness to share so much of your time and experiences with the device has really helped us feel like we are coming to know the phone.

Out of all the reviews and the videos I have watched trying to decide, your information has been most helpful and for that I truly thank you for contributing!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
Lol going crazy with the note 4. Constantly watching youtube videos about the note 4. One more day and i can finally get my hands on it. That gorgeous screen would be amazing!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
These are too high for a hot exynos. Was this test done after intensive use (4k rec/gaming)?

The colors shift in odd angles?? Haven't heard of it yet. Can people confirm the viewing angles please?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
I didn't I wanted to know rhe raw power of the GPU.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
Oh, sorry, that's ok then. Congrats! Still waiting for the 18th here in Brazil.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Magnesus:
About the screen being yellowish - from tests the photo mode at least has the temperature of white color set at 6500K meaning it has to be yellowish. It's on purpose. I am not sure about Basic mode though, I think DisplayMate review tested the color temperature of all modes, so one could check there.

What worries me is the change of color when the screen is looked upon from different angles - I thought OLED screens were free of that effect?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
Yep, I'm pretty scared about that too! Can someone clarify?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] daraj:
Can you please see if it blends?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] kwankl:
How's the speaker compare with Note 3? It is now located on the back which I don't like...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
Screen

Congratulations, when side by side with a 1080p phone... is there much diference?

If possible, could you please upload some photos on the proginal format?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dmaul3300:
How much internal space is available before installing any apps?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jackhilfuer:
I believe that it will not!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
http://i.imgur.com/37tkVmp.png

http://i.imgur.com/LMOIXnL.png

Will post later GeekBench

http://i.imgur.com/eF4ESRw.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lu9HDlh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/egnMQ1r.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/00Hoc4z.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/M14fy9q.jpg

Nope, it does not bend.

Speaker is loud.

Not the best position to put speaker but it is ok.

Cant compare with Note 3 as I dont have one at the moment.

There is not much difference.

Compared with Note 3, LG G2 and Nexus 5 side by side. It is not much difference. Biggest difference is in colors and contrast.

And on Note 3 white has yelloe effect while on Note 4 white is white.

Only 24,6 GB is available.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SAVVAS.:
Thanks for your general input! Can you run Sunspider test through Samsung built-in browser and through Chrome and post the results?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Toss3:
Why geekbench and gfxbench when those are some of the worst apps for benchmarking? Antutu and 3D Mark are a lot better (I'd even go as far as saying that 3D mark is the only reliable one).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Here you go. First one is with stock browser and second is with Chrome

http://i.imgur.com/HwkUkdM.png

http://i.imgur.com/fFf5OPE.png

You can find Antutu in previous post.

I will post later 3D mark
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowFlare:
So it's bears SM-910C model, possibility it is an Exynos model? The high benchmark kinda pointing to that direction as well.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SAVVAS.:
Thanks mate! Again the same story , Stock Samsung browser is super optimised(Cheating?) in Sunspider test or Chrome is unoptimised! I wonder which is it generally a faster browser, as from my Note 3 experience Chrome was faster despite being significant lower than Samsung browser in Sunspider!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alexcarterkarsus:
Thanks for the benchmark.

what a huge difference of sunspider between chrome and the stock browser :) HALF!!

although it is the same with Note 3, and funny thing is most of the review sites (including Anandtech!! ) used the chrome based results, so then it seemed android is so outperformed by ibend products, as far as sunspider is concerned :silly:

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my initial thoughts, too... but then I remember at certain point a firmware update for Note 3 removed all kinds of cheating... so would be nice if someone with a different phone (or even different than samsung) can test the performance gap between stock browser and chrome...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Yes, it is Exynos version.

Didnt even check before :D

Could be cheating :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
thx for sharing can u show antutu details so we can see cpu and gpu points too.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SAVVAS.:
Good point, this is something which Anandtech does and it is not exactly fair. As they use Safari browser for Iphone instead of Chrome, and Safari is super optimised where as in other Android devices they use Chrome which is not that optimised at least in the case of Samsung devices! I guess they know that but they still use Chrome to have a better unified comparison between Android devices. However they should at least have a small note about it .

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Yes I remembered this too. But still when I had a Note 3 despite the absence of cheating through new firmware, I noticed that Samsung browser when I was testing Sunspider was using consistently higher CPU frequencies compared to Chrome thus having higher scores! As for other Android devices, their Chrome scores seems a little better than Samsung Chrome scores even if they have weaker CPU. Maybe the others spend some time optimising Chrome where as Samsung optimised their own and forget Chrome.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Indeed it is the opposite.

Where did you get the N910C ???
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Toss3:
Oh that was for the OP and not for me.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Well for both, the first part was for you.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
Thanks a lot for all your feedback. Now, if you don't mind, a question a little tricky/subjective. Everybody naturally have been talking about the bright side only but, what you dislike? What aspect are you unhappy with? What would you change?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowFlare:
I'm happy as it is right now, but in my opinion, the following would make me happier:

- Eventhough they said performance-to-power is more efficient, I still think they should have increased the battery capacity alot more.

- This is a business / media consumption phablet, 1 speaker is not enough, it should have been stereo speakers.

- Not waterproof, should have put more effort to waterproof it somehow.

- Some people were disappointed by removal of USB3, personally I won't miss it.

- More sci-fi-like On-screen finger scanner!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
No problem mate. Just here to help. Thank you

Congrats. Report back with feedback when you get it

I have wrote about that in some of my posts. When you change viewing angle colors become bluish and contrast changes a little bit.

And dont believe in DisplayMate review. Screen is yellowish in all modes, particullary in basic mode and photo mode. In adaptive and movie mode is bluish bzt when you comoare it with some other screen you see yellowish.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
Omg the store told me they only have the exynos version. Im expecting the snapdragon. I guess i have no choice. Been waiting too long to get my hands on the note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Toss3:
Why would that upset you? The exynos version is the one to get right now. :confused: I'd be very happy if I could get my hands on your version instead of the s805 version.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
Because snapdragon is i think more supported by developers here in xda. Im fun of installing custom roms. And maybe day to day task, the snapdragon would be faster because of its higher clockspeed? Also the single core performance is faster on the sd.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Clockspeed worth nothing. Exynos cpu is like 20%faster than snapdragon. And according to geekbench single core performance is higher on exynos too. 1100 to 1300.

Snapdragons advantage is developer support gpu is pretty much same too.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
Wow this is good news to me. Anyway my note 4 exynos is coming tomorrow. So excited. Using note 2 right now. Big upgrade for me. The screen of the note 4 is to die for
[Galaxy Note 4 General] toadsurfer:
The colour shift is bad. The phonearena review results confirms it. It's surprising for an oled. However, viewed straight on it's a great screen and the colour shift at angles doesn't really bother me. I still have my s5 though, while I wait to sell it, and compared to that, my N4 is substantially inferior for viewing angles.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] erahk64:
Here is another review that says colors are excellent when using basic mode.

So maybe there are differences between each Note 4 or the other screens you use are less accurate.

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4-Review_id3812
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
Colors are great. If you read carefully my post you will see I was only referring to yellow effect and yellow effect is most noticable in basic mode.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
Phone Arena on the matter: "Viewing angles are traditionally good on AMOLED screen, and the Note 4 isn't an exception. Contrast and brightness remain high when you view the screen from an angle, but unfortunately, there's an unpleasant shift in colors which make them much colder than they otherwise are."

This is Really unexpected! Note 4's biggest asset is the screen, and they let this slip through? I hope it isn't bad. You have to turn your phone a lot to see it right? right? :crying:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] erahk64:
Yellow effect is the same as yellowish white ?

When reviewers say measured color accuracy is excellent, it usually includes white.

So it's a bit confusing.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tiguy99:
Please share your results. I recently picked up a broken screen note 2 to fix and use as a backup phone.

Would love to hear how the software day to day use has improved over note 2
[Galaxy Note 4 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Just a little bit of news for all of the UK folks. Samsung delayed the release until the 17th.

http://phandroid.com/2014/10/09/samsung-note-4-ads/
[Galaxy Note 4 General] toadsurfer:
Sadly not. There is a significant blue hue that comes in when the screen is viewed at anything other than 100% straight on.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] an_xda:
I use it and there is nothing to complain about TouchID. I do not like starting these ridiculous Apple vs. Samsung arguments but it is undisputed that TouchID just works - there is no difficulty at all.

However, I have used the S5 for a bit and the touch sensor was absolutely trash, inconsistent even when I tried to swipe the same position I registered from screen to the bottom of the phone, giving the sensor more than enough of my finger's surface area...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
I was pointing to that they dont use fingerprint sensor. In practical use I would say 95% or even more do not use fingerprint sensor, on both, Apple and Samsung.

But lets not go that way.

Back to Note 4 :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dawheat:
I do wonder if its because a lot of LCDs tend to be a bit cold and have bluish whites. An on-spot while value could then look a touch yellowish.

Either way, based on measurements and reviews, its a non-issue.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DelBoy:
In my post yellow effect was referring to white color only. Other colors do not have yellow effect.

Sorry on confusion
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mih3y:
hi! could you please describe/compare sound quality via headphones? is it comparable to htc m8 m7 / iphone? i loved the way my m7 sounded. will this be any similar? i heard a lot of complaints about how Samsung phones sound. Thank you
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
Gotta see it in person! :eek:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RomBox:
I think the so called "yellowish" is color temperature related, learn from this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature

note4's screen is 6550K, which is the closest to 6500K, which is considered the standard value. if you put it side by side to a 8000K screen, you will feel it's yellow, or the 8000K screen is blue. most phone screens have high K.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
Based on the reviews. The note 4 screen is spot on.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheBenzinator:
Pls update for any lags so far like contacts? Dial? Usually lags pop up after long usage and installing many apps...

Is Note 4 gives huge smoothness increase over Note 3??:confused:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] toadsurfer:
Could someone confirm if they get the colour shift with small changes in viewing angle? I'm starting to worry it's just my phone.

From the Google homepage in web explorer, so you have a white test screen, my phone shifts to a very obvious blue hue with slightest tilting of the screen.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowFlare:
When I played the Note 4 in the Samsung store, I tried looking at all angles, all the way to the extreme near 90 degrees (looking from the side). I only started noticing the tiniest colour shifts maybe after 30 degrees, which I considered negligible change. Then greater change happened after 60 degrees.

Maybe my eyes are not that sensitive, but I'm happy with the screen. And Displaymate's tests really show that it's the best OLED screen so far and the closest to the White's 6500k, so long as it is set to Basic colour profile. I just like punchy colours and leave it at Auto Adapt. I switch to to Basic only if colours on video (especially on skin) is bad, which I experience on my Tab S 8.4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
Finally! Take a look at my signature guys..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
Congratulations, what about your first impressions?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ghawyhob:
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Congrates for the new beast ,i think its exynos we are waiting ur review too ?iam still hesitat for exynos or snapdragon
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
The display is gorgeous. I like the back cover of the white. Its grippy like the black note 3. It also feels thinner than the note 3. I have trouble finding the settings on air gestures

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Thanks. This is the exynos version..will try antutu and post screenshots
[Galaxy Note 4 General] JCM800:
Opinions on the speaker please? Thin and tinny?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
I notice even if i set the brightness lower, it doesnt strain my eyes when reading text. I guess its because of the very high resolution.

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Speaker is loud but sounds thin. It has clear highs but the note 2 has better mids and lows.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] JCM800:
Thanks, oh dear still thin? ,, others have said as much. I'm disappointed there. May hold onto my Note 3,, but the display on the 4 is tempting...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
Yah but still need some more time testing. I just got this device a few hours ago and im busy testing its other features. Cannot find air gesture settings.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mih3y:
Hi Guys, can someone please comment on the sound quality (headphone) is it comparable to iphone/ htc m7/m8?

Thank you! This is the only thing that makes me look at Iphone, as a lot of my friends were not happy with how their samsungs sounded.

thank you so much!