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[General Topics] mablan:
Hi man...

I'm not the expert you are asking for but can tell you one simple thing about the main diference of CDMA and GSM... as I know, the GSM networks use sim cards in the phone with the information about your carrier network,etc... the CDMA phones do not use sim card and have the info. saved on the phone itself.

hope this helps meanwhile someone more helpfull answer the question...

Regards;
[General Topics] madador03:
Yeah I don't know much either and I'd agree that its one of the big differences, but the Blackberry 8830 is marketed on Sprint.com with the following feature: "Unlocked SIM Device. Use in market carrier SIM cards while traveling abroad" To my knowledge, this is the first I've EVER heard of this. I wish I could take that SIM card and stuff it into the iPhone. Although I wouldn't be surprised if using the sprint network required no SIM card, but international use allowed the use of a SIM card with an open slot. blah,

So any experts want to shed light on the differences between GSM and CDMA (and EVDO) and why we can't hack the iPhone for Sprint, which has been unlocked for use with any GSM carrier? You can get as technical as you want, I've got the brain for it...but that doesn't mean I won't ask questions! thanks a lot guys

Cheers,

Justin
[General Topics] 2manyphones:
The best answer to your questing is an analogy: It is like the difference between speaking English and speaking German (just a random language selected :rolleyes: ). GSM and CDMA are different technologies or Languages. So they may run on the same frequencies and do similar things, but are not compatible with each other.

GSM phones (AT&T, T-Mo, Vodafone, etc) use SIM cards while CDMA (Sprint, Verizon) primarily do not (some do though). Verizon is selling a BlackBerry "Curve" that is marketed as a World phone. This is the exception to most rules. It is a CDMA phone that has a seperate GSM radio (phone) inside to work on the European/Asian GSM networks.

EVDO is the high speed data portion of the CDMA network (in simle terms), while UMTS/HSDPA (also known as 3G) is the high speed data portion of the GSM network. Equally as confusing is that UMTS is technically called WCDMA or wide-band code division multiple access.

This is a little off topic for the iPhone however, considering it has GSM voice and GPRS(slow)/Edge(not as slow) data technology and there will never be any "hack" to make it work on a voice CDMA network. I do predict there will be a 3G version of the iPhone by the end of 07. Still not compatible with Sprint or Verizon, but this will give the iPhone MUCH more speed when using the cellular 3g network than the current GPRS/Edge data.
[General Topics] liquidsilver:
I'll agree it's beautiful and crashes less often but virus free and crash-resistant? lol I guess marketing does work.
[General Topics] xxza:
will get my iphone today and unlock it tonight. :)
[General Topics] dreod:
I hope you know that ca. 20- 30% from Apple Bill Gates(privat, not microsoft) belongs
[General Topics] hkbladelawhk:
only thing I don't like is: Overpriced...Made by Apple...
[General Topics] aboutthemind:
cdma and gsm

cdma is faster the fastest hspda is back to cdma the reason for sim cards was for global acknowledgment's and greed detachable esn but cons tad bit slower hspda runs on cdma network and gsm phones will work on sprint not because of nextel just cause..

verizon settings look like this

(MID)@vzw3g.com

so the whole concept of gsm cdma being non universal is BS

Fact is verizon owns all cell sites in CA rumor has it 50 % of the US so if thats the case then why don't they use gsm cause it would make them lose that ever so popular 99.9% sla speech when the quarterly shareholders get together.

hope this helps i listed all the settings some where around networking

ciao sorry to but in
[General Topics] blueprince:
Guys any unlocking tool for iPHONE

Guys any unlocking tool for iPHONE that reallly works tnx in advance
[General Topics] me:
I only see one advantage to Iphone---8GB internal storage!

If WM phones are going to compete with Iphone, they better increase the amount of internal RAM, to 8GB or more!
[General Topics] Mr.Clark:
Except: most of that storage on the iPhone is used for music and/or films.

Windows mobile devices have some form of easily-accessable (and hence swappable) memory card, be it SD/MMC, miniSD, MicroSD, SDHC etc. etc.

So technically, (as long as you duplicate installed apps over all your cards so that they work whichever one you use), you can have a card full of music, another card full of films and yet another card with different TomTom maps on.

You can swap these cards around as you like, and that's much cheaper for the user than having internal flash memory.
[General Topics] nadimukani:
Can somebody please post the 32 x 32 icon of the new updated calculator for me pls
[General Topics] generalriden:
please help me to decide

Im planning to buy...but is it really worth to buy an IPHONE...pm me is u can also. need ur advice guys.
[General Topics] mcculleyandJen:
Does anyone knows where can i find and iPhone theme or interface with iCons for my new WM6 Tilt?

Thanks

Jen :)
[General Topics] generalriden:
http://www.everythingiphone.com/forum/

http://www.everythingiphone.com/forum/iphone-wallpapers/

best themes

http://www.hacktheiphone.com/73/iphone_multimedia.html

go on this forum..a lot of stuff not only themes
[General Topics] vitali77:
Saffari on iPhone

Does anyone know if Safari on iPhone is going to support FLASH plugin in next version.

Thanks,

Vitali Malinouski
[General Topics] generalriden:
only apple knows that
[General Topics] james.white:
Hi guys, I’m planning to buy a gift this coming Thanksgiving Day since it’s my girl’s birthday but I don’t know what will be the best gift to buy since my girl had an Iphone already. I’m planning to buy a stilletto100 a satellite radio since my girl loves music. I heard that it’s a commercial- free music then, do you guys have an idea about that?
[General Topics] Grumps:
try http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1710253#post1710253
[General Topics] yyaayy:
Windows Mobile 5 Already Does What the iPhone Does
[General Topics] rockky:
After having tons of fun for years hacking my tytn and now my tilt to death on this site, I also purchased the Iphone just for kicks a few months ago....(and have IT hacked to death).....

The result..to my shock...I began using the Iphone more and more....the Tilt less and less....and have basically adopted the Iphone by default.

Functional elegance sometimes can't be beat.

Not suggesting 3G compares to edge in absolute terms, but....(the processor along with the page rendering characteristics of the Iphone (on edge) actually produce real world surfing speeds that are relatively close to that of the tilt...done tons of size-by-side comparisons)
[General Topics] CWKJ:
As we know iPhone is only launch in the US first.

And it seems Creativity and Innovativity is the sole right of only Apple, or so maybe that is what Apple thinks.

Some (quite creative and innovative) entreprenuer here did a parallel import, but stupid enough to so call "HACKED" the SIM Lock for ATT and they got warning for selling HACKED iPhone and will get fine SGD1000 for each iPhone sold. They could easily just sell the unhacked product and users can find hack somewhere, somehow. But again, knowing Apple, they will again warn the sellers that it is illegal to sell products that are not launch here. Who to blame, Apple is the one to be blame for being without the capability (most likely technical) to do a parallel launch of product world wide.

By having SIM Lock, it is in fact an Anti-Competition behaviour by service providers and is in fact another form of Protectionism and it inhibits creative and innovative competition strategy among service providers.

So who says that it is customers' first in business, it should be Business Bottom Line First in business.

Also some interesting development that some enterprise solution will be added into iPhone by some Software Giants despite some flaws in iPhone. Flaws include unable to push emails and obviously M$ & RIM maybe needed on this situation.
[General Topics] P996:
You'd be surprised how many people I know went through the same experience. The iPhone lacks 3G, it lacks a A2DP profile, it lacks a decent camera (still...it takes decent pictures for a 2 MP cam without autofocus and it is better for "fast" shots than my TyTN II 3 MP autofocus camera) but since I own it, I almost never looked back and left my TyTN II and my Nokia E90 in my office' drawer.

The iPhone is an incredible device, mostly because of the ingenius OS, GUI and touchscreen operation. The display is also great.

Whenever I use my TyTN II again (business purposes), I get shocked how bad the display quality is and how sluggish the OS works compared to the "instant" reaction of the iPhone OS.

That said, I think that HTC and especially Microsoft have to go back to the drawing (developping) table because if Apple gets it right next time with a iPhone with UMTS/HSDPA, a better camer with video recording capability and a A2DP profile, there won't be much cell phones on this planet to be able to keep up with it. The new HTC Touch Dual is a very nice gadget but unfortunately the display sucks and the sluggish OS operation is something I would not like to experience anymore on ANY cell phone I'm using.

Surprisingly, the Safari browser on the iPhone works pretty fast with EDGE, there are not many situations when I miss having 3G.

Apple did an incredible job considering the fact that this is the first cell phone they developped by their own, so I just hope that companies with more experience in this business like HTC, Microsoft or even Nokia come up with something equal or better any time soon because if Apple succeeds in adapting current cell phone technology to the already advanced OS/GUI/touch operation, the other cell phone/OS manufacturers will be in big trouble.
[General Topics] juiceppc:
Anyone get WinMo running on the iPhone hardware?
[General Topics] Turelio:
iPhone = iPod + GSM :D
[General Topics] juiceppc:
Of course it is. It ain't a "smartphone". No proper smartphone would have that kind of crappy calendar.

I think we beat up on WinMo and HTC a lot for not giving us everything(as well we should :)) but at least we get the "important" stuff done right. Like Calendar and email. Sure blackberry does that well too but that's where it stops. At least WinMo does try to do everything. It may stumble, but at least it tries. The iPhone gives a great multimedia experience but it doesn't even try to give a good PIM experience...

Hence, "It ain't a smartphone". it's a pertyphone.
[General Topics] Bram87:
I get my iphone in about 2 weeks!!! Cant wait..

together with my tytn 2 its the great combination
[General Topics] P996:
Now THIS really makes sense.

WM has a sluggish operation even on WM optimized hardware, how would it work with the iPhone hardware? It doesn't take a genius to predict a complete catastrophy. ;)
[General Topics] :
huh? but you can't replace the battery, can't change the 8gb like sdhc card...I will take HTC Touch anytime!
[General Topics] gasman858:
Data Connection issue vs iPhone

Sorry about the tangentiality -

For those of you on the ATT network, I have a question - I have a Tilt, my colleague an iPhone. In one location we can be sitting in the same room where we both get voice signal (for some reason mine shows roaming - possibly because of T-Mobile repeaters in building), iPhone gets EDGE/data and can download on safari, I get no data at all even though I have E icon for signal - my primary Tilt conn is MEdianet, but i've tried isp.cingular, wap.cingular with no luck - any ideas? I get 3g & Edge elsewhere without problems.

Tried to review edge settings on his iPhone, but not familiar with it enough to find them, or they're not available...

Thanks in advance.
[General Topics] jadephyre:
i still don't know what all the fuzz is about this damn phone... what good is a Phone that you have to HACK to get any kind of useful Programs for ?

Granted, i hacked my Himalaya too to get more out of it, but for a fairly recent Phone this is madness.

Of course it wins design-wise, but when you don't jailbreak it, it just looks pretty.

399 Dollars for something that is restricted to ONE provider (even when you buy it from the store) and that can only install Software from Apple when not jailbroken.

The iPhone to me is a Toy, Windows Mobile Devices are Workhorses.
[General Topics] cushcalc:
Red - Green opposition

Just one other thought/opinion:

Why is Apple so arrogant and/or obtuse that they must put the Green Send and Red End keys in reversed position to what every other manufacturere does?

It's kind of like the old Triumph's and BSA's vs. the rest of the motorcycle world.

This is not a feature - IMHO it is just arrogance/stubborness in effort to be different.
[General Topics] huffpost:
My Two Cents

This is my thinking for what it is worth. I have been a long time Palm user. When palm launched a Windows Mobile Phone I was ecstatic to say the least. It synced with outlook, had internet explorer (although I used Opera Mobile) and had the look and feel of my pc. The world was well, until last week when I dropped my Treo 750 and broke it. I was going to go with the Tilt (aka HTC Tytn II) a great phone with a great feature set and a better price. However upon discovering that the Iphone was still making money on Ebay because the hype has not fully worn off yet I decided to get one and then sell it to defray my cost on the Tilt. I took it home and unwrapped and turned it on and was hooked for life. It is light years ahead of the Tilt in terms of GUI and usability. There are some kinks to work out of course however I can say with confidence that I will never go back to WM and Steve Jobs for all his faults has gained a lifetime customer. The interface alone is worth it not to mention the memory and ease of use. To address the concerns above the Iphone Unlimeted data plan is only $20.00 a month as compared to WM plans that begin at $30.00 a month. As for the Ipod it could not be better. As for the internet the connection on edge just simply loads faster than anything I have seen on 3g on my old treo using Opera and IE mobile. I have tested the speed and it is standard and comprable to WM however the compresion simply has to be better since pages load 5x faster on average for me. Well there ya go my two cents.
[General Topics] huffpost:
Well considering that Apple has paid to have a bunch of web developers bring ineternet based applications to the Iphone so that you don't have to purchase them I would say that is pretty darn great.
[General Topics] Curare:
Question to the iphone owners. I was playing around with an iphone at an apple store last night and it seemed to be laggy. When I try opening settings after getting out of safari, took it a couple of second before it opened settings. I expected it to be more instantaneous with the processor it has. Now, I understand it may just be a case of everyone playing around the demo iphones, so every little program on the screen was opened and running in RAM. So how do you guys clear memory? With WinMo, you can completely close a program instead of keeping it running and reclaim some RAM, but that doesn't seem to be the case with the iphone. The iphone doesn't have a memory manager. Seems WinMo takes a lot of heat for crashing a lot and phones need to be restarted, but seems iphones may run into a similar problem. Just wondering.
[General Topics] hhda2004:
HTC Innovations

I think that iPhone is much more concerned about having more imaginable entertainment faciliity. The screen resolution is outstanding, Wifi gives a very strong signal and the touch screen is maybe 10 times mre powerful than HTC screens.

But still, I prefer to have my HTC touch Cruise because there are plenty of creations and innovations. Windows mobile (7) is launching soon. At that time,who konws?, it could beat the iPhone.

Consider thinking!!
[General Topics] Lokioki:
iLoL, wvga anyone ?

But touch screen is amazing accurate in it, I always hitted where I wanted with my thumb, even when I`m using Safari. It is just that great :3 I wish my Kaiser would have been as good as iPhones touch-screen technology.
[General Topics] xdaorbit:
dual boot iphone wm6 & os x

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/13/windows-mobile-ported-to-iphone-we-think/

Is this true!!!
[General Topics] woox_4_u:
unloak iphone ..please!

i need your help to unlock my iphone 2G 1.1.2 .. please !!!

thanks all !
[General Topics] naveen:
great first post!:(
[General Topics] orb3000:
Also great welcome for a first post member:(
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
http://blog.iphone-dev.org/
[General Topics] gmanfuzing:
great reply to the first reply for a first post :]
[General Topics] sambo121:
>> need help to unlock iphone <<<<

>>> i have being given an iphone by my dad, and its locked to o2. Can you help me unlock it to all sims . . . :(

Thanks,
[General Topics] orelsi:
Throw that garbage away and buy a proper modern device.
[General Topics] why_999:
Very helpful :p

But everyone got to agree that Apple is the main reason Microsoft got off their fat ass and started to improve their OS, and manufactures started more user friendly UI.
[General Topics] :
Try an iPhone forum. :rolleyes:
[General Topics] articoceanic:
how comes there's no iphone sub-forum like there is for every other phone on this site?
[General Topics] xosag:
It's because XDA-dev is an HTC device forum, so most subforums are for HTC devices. You'll note there also aren't forums for Samsung and LG devices.
[General Topics] harutfromnh:
Thats what I was thinking... Mainly because everyone here is a WinMo Fanboy.
[General Topics] JAguirre1231:
Some of us are Android FanBoys.
[General Topics] Raptor-21:
Haha, I can't beleive I just read through 33 pages of this dating back to more than 2 years ago. But I found it quite funny reading peoples initial reactions about the iPhone after it's announcement. Reading a few people saying how this is going to be a failure due to no third party apps, and others talking about how wm has tons of apps and the iphone doesn't, then thinking about about were it's at today makes me lol.

Anyway, to state the obvious, it wouldn't be where it is today if it wasn't for it's apps. I'm also not a massive fan of the iPhone, I prefer the iPod touch + Android phone combo.
[General Topics] annia:
iPhone has the ability to mold itself and get customized according to the need of user. Different uses demands different specifications and style in the phone. The apps style and phone internal appearance can be changed now with many ways as described in this discussion but to change the outer look of the phone, user need to use iphone accessories to make their phone look even better and suite their personality.
[General Topics] ELC SteveJObs:
android

how would i run android on iphone dual booting
[General Topics] muller2030:
The skins here are really beautiful. But can i get the matching wallpaper too, if yes then from where? I really wanna change the outlook of my iphone. Please do suggest me.

iphone 4g skins
[General Topics] mohit.joshi:
dude if you have a iPhone 3G or 2G u can dual boot it with Android !!

please google for more
[General Topics] X2D:
In all honesty it would be cool to be able to come back to XDA if there was an iPhone subforum but given the debate in the past I highly doubt it's going to happen.

I truely do miss XDA though :(

I jumped on the iPhone 4 train and haven't looked back since.
[General Topics] jaleelajmal:
This thread is important page in history

this is great thread and should be kept as history

I have HTC hero and iPhone 4

in real life android still sucks needs to be polished (no offense to android fans)

iPhone is reliable companion in day to day life

rest is just a hype
[General Topics] Sindroid:
Apple is the biggest Nazi company i know of.. Total control and power over every user seems to be their goal. Once again, this is a proof that you actually don't BUY a iPhone but only pay a high license price to be able to use it

Glad i still have my non-gps iPhone.. But Jobs and his sheeps can **** off
[General Topics] wenstinator:
After several years as a WinMo and XDA junkie, I made the switch to an iPhone 4 after my beloved HD2 screen digitizer broke. It was a big step as I hate Apple's closed environment, but I was attracted by the jailbreaking community.

While I miss religiously following ROM updates and Android and other developments, I have been impressed with the iPhone as a device and with its overall experience (yes, the apps really do make a difference).

One thing that bothers me about the iPhone is how relatively small and fragmented its hacking community is. There does not seem to be a central location similar to XDA for WinMo and now Android.

I firmly believe that XDA has the best collection of developers in the world, and frankly, given the size of the iPhone base worldwide, I'm surprised there isn't greater interest in breaking open this powerful device among the community.

(oops, just saw the thread announcing the launch of iphone-developers.com, looks like it is already in the works)
[General Topics] hungry81:
Enjoy your downgrade.
[General Topics] Dc_striker:
I bet most the people the hate iPhone they probably never used one or had it jalbreak.

Root and jailbreak seem to be the same damn thing for the phones.

I love android and ios. I switch always from htc hd2 and iphone 4 cause i get bored with both
[General Topics] hungry81:
You loose the bet. My sister has an iphone 4 my girlfriend has a galaxy S. Iphones connectivity options are unnecessarily LIMITED. Why is that so hard to understand?
[General Topics] st3v3:
thats a good point, considering Apple would be getting some fallout from Zune (dont laugh im sure someone got one) they would have to have some sort of windows support to lure the windows world.

i still hope HTC sits up and follows it up with something flashy.
[General Topics] SecureGSM:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/sensors.html

this is .. amazing.. period.

P.S. specs:

http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/specs.html
[General Topics] dam:
11 without stylus, how can I do that ?

hello,

I found that on the internet about the iphone :

the good : http://apcstart.com/4963/ten_things_to_love_about_the_new_iphone

the bad (at least he tried): http://apcstart.com/4965/top_10_things_to_hate_about_the_iphone

and my own bad point : no stylus...

(out of the fact that you might need clean hands)

I live in an asian country. Chinese characters are quite a challenge and it is very helpful to write them on the screen of your device and to find the meaning (and the reading) in the dictionary immediatly. That is thanks to the stylus. I wonder how you can do that with your finger ...:rolleyes:

revolution would leave some (not so many that is true) behind...:(
[General Topics] levenum:
Great. Now I'll have to learn programming for the OS X when comes the time to retire my Jamin...:D :eek: :D

Oh man...

But seriously this is their first model - if this continues we might see a phone with similar design quality but all the current feature - 3G, GPS, etc with in a year or two.

And if they make it as accessible to 'armature developers' as WM is (or better with properly documented API)...

Well, one can always dream...
[General Topics] Rudegar:
looks nice too bad it will most likely have 2 mayor drawbacks imho

1 well prob not play other audio and video then apple ones

2 less of an application base
[General Topics] sbsshadow:
When in UK ?

Hi

Does anybody know when or if it will be available in the UK ?

I know it says Europe in Q4 ... but does that mean UK ?

We are always last and have the worst choices .... LOL

Thanks

Steve
[General Topics] leaskovski:
4th quarter! lol, that will be old hat by then! Just have to wait 1 quarter then till the HTC devices will start shipping with built in projectors! lol