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[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
Will i see big difference in battery life if i root my phone and use greenify?

I can get 4.5-5h of SOT
[Galaxy Note 4 General] keremtunaa:
I send a message Samsung Mobile twitter for battery life issues.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bekasulaberidze:
I wonder how people get 5+ hours of SOT on LP when I get max 2 hours
[Galaxy Note 4 General] A . S:
I think wifi is draining battery more than every thing else. On mobile data it's not this much . Idk maybe I'm wrong
[Galaxy Note 4 General] keremtunaa:
I wonder to.I think users charge batteries some time in day.On kitkat my screen time 4 hours and battery percentage %3.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tanmays005:
I hope none of you guys disappointed with the battery life use the app "Finger Security". Even though it's really handy, it cut my battery life into half (~3 hrs SOT from 5.5-6 hrs)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bekasulaberidze:
as usually mobile data has more drain than wifi.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] losta:
Perhaps you guys could also possibly post screen shot of wakelocks you get just before you recharge the phone..how many hours of wakelocks is to be considered normal. Just to get an idea if during idle..the background services was the one to blame (most likely). If the battery drops while you using the phone is pretty normal as everyone most likely uses different apps and brightness settings, varies signal strength etc..what bothers me most is if the battery drops so much on idle. So yeah just would like to compare how many hours of wakelock did you get..especially those who has great battery life. I will post mine when its to time to recharge the phone. As of now im still at 66% its been almost 20 hours off charge with exactly 2 hours 15 minutes of screen on time. Mostly on LTE with several hours only on wifi. Im using 910H
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Mobalized:
I'm not sure if this has been pointed out already, but depending on your amount of standby time your SOT will be lower. If you use the phone with the screen on the whole time you will have a greater SOT then if you use it periodically throughout the day as you are using battery even in standby. If I have average use I'm averaging 3 hours SOT, if I have heavy use I'm getting closer to 4 hrs SOT.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jorexapps:
Can you recommend me a good app for detecting which app causes battery drain?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] yoniinfante:
Im happy with my daily results:p Masik 4.0
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bekasulaberidze:
How just how ? :D model number ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bekasulaberidze:
I think c variant has problem...

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is there ROM where is fixed 'total connection time' problem ? or any method ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] losta:
If you are rooted, you could try better battery stats, wakelock detector or gsam battery stats.

Sent from my SM-N910H in a far far away land
[Galaxy Note 4 General] yoniinfante:
ive recommended this a lot of times but a lot of users just don't like to read, but if u wanna get a better battery life out of ur phone then follow this thread, just read and follow the instructions, I hope you are rooted, good luck, cheers:fingers-crossed:

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/general/disabling-google-play-services-guide-t2999821
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jamesdroid90:
I have the same device as you (n910c). Last night, I also got 13 hours standby and lost only 3%.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jorexapps:
I'm not rooted, so what app would you recommend?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jamesdroid90:
Have you tried greenify?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bekasulaberidze:
Greenify doesn't work 100% without Xposed, yes tried on LP but that total connection time is still there :)

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Interesting... I'll try on my 910c stock KK
[Galaxy Note 4 General] darkbahamut:
I don't find the 910c battery that bad. On an average day with mixed usage and fairly high brightness I can be on for around 5-6 hours SOT (normally finish my day at 50% with 2h30 - 3h0 SoT). However, if the brightness is allowed to be lower (around 25%) and web browsing with no standby then you can get some nice results.

1 hour SOT + browser for 8% battery? ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] yoniinfante:
I have a N910C too but on 5.0.1 so I guess on kitkat you can have a better results on battery, good luck and let us know the results, cheers:fingers-crossed::highfive:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] losta:
Sorry my bad...i think you can try gsam battery stats. I dont think it needs to be rooted though. I've just checked my superuser app and i dont see gsam battery stats there. Though its basically shows pretty much the same with your stock battery consumptions on setting only a lot more detailed. From my experience its the background services which mostly drained your battery during idle and you need to be rooted to see that. Perhaps others could recommend better options :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] losta:
My result for today, pretty happy with it. Though maybe i could squeeze more juice out of it. I can still see many wakelocks during idle..and seeing those wakelocks..the mysteries just goes deeper :sly: by the way does anyone know what is ssp wakelocks and ssp sensorhub wakelocks? And whats causing it? Thanks :)

Sent from my N-910H from a far far away land
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
Try Francisco Francos new app called Servicely. It's like Greenify but better and you don't need Xposed.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BlackCrow-It:
I did a factory resent and now I'm on lollipop. I get 5h sot. I don't really understand how you guys get 7+sot.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] yoniinfante:
every phone performs different, every hardware performs different, you know its like cars, we can buy 2 Nissan GTRs and mine can go 0-60mph in 2.7sec and maybe yours in 3.0 secs, but you can always work around and try to make things works better, if u are not rooted, then u can root and use titanium backup to freeze a lot of apps, you can also disable a lot of services u don't need, hope this helps, cheers:fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bekasulaberidze:
How abut 'total connection time' on your device ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] yoniinfante:
I got to say im having the same issue where I use apps for 10-20min but total connection keeps eating my battery, ive been trying to disable as many apps services as possible looking for a fix, but for now it has failed, I don't know anything about development or really deeps into android but I try my best, I hope a real developer is already working on a fix :o
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BlackCrow-It:
You're right but when I bought it I got 7h+ sot after 5 recharge I started to get 4/5 sot.. You're right but I don't think it's my case...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] yoniinfante:
are u on kitkat or lollipop? there was a major down on battery life from kitkat to lollipop, I still manage to get from 5 to 6hrs SOT and 1+ day on lollipop, cheers:fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BlackCrow-It:
Right now I'm on lollipop! And I've been using it for 4 days.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] boratm:
I think this SSP stuff is related to the sensors, but i guess whats using the sensors is Google Play Services. I'm disabling some services to see if I can get rid of them.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] francanna:
Hi all, can you help me? I am having problems with my battery life. I can't get nothing more that 2-2,5 hours SOT. I think that the problem is a process that is called "App Android Core" . It is always in the first two places in battery consumption with as many time of process usage as Android System. In other Note 4 this process does not even appear in the statistics!

I have seen that this process is responsible for "logs provider, address book, user dictionary and contacts memory". I have thought that these may be related to Samsung syncs and I disabled it (though I couldn't delete Samsung account).

My phone is a SM-910F running official lollipop (ITV BOC5). Phone not rooted, I use Greenify. 2 gmail accounts, one hotmail with gmail app, one exchange with samsung email, one exchange with outlook; whatsapp, 2 twitter, instagram, facebook and skype. I have Android wear with some apps for my Sony SW3.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] losta:
Please do share if you can find from which services causing it :) i have disabled most services from google play services but still that ssp wakelock being persistent on top from all wakelocks.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] darkbahamut:
The SSP_sensor_wakelock is caused by the kernel, not a service. The only way to stop it is to edit a kernel with the wakelock removed.

It's due to the shealth/step counting stuff. Every time the phone is moved the sensor hub wakes the device to report your step. This occurs regardless of whether you use shealth or not because it occurs at the kernel level so disabling apps and services won't effect it.

You can see it for yourself. Leave your phone idle on a desk all day. Barely any SSP wakelocks. Now leave it in your pocket and walk around all day. Tons of SSP wakelocks.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] koppee1:
did an update to lolipop using kies for my exynos note 4.

I'm now averaging 4.5 SOT from 3.5 to 4 hrs SOT on Kitkat. Didn't do a hard reset.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] boratm:
I guess you're right. Noticed that at work, when the phone is on my desk, I get fewer wakelocks. The strange thing is not everyone has problems with them.

I disabled some play services and debloated the rom i'm using and got huge improvement in stand by time, but still have lots of these wake locks.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] darkbahamut:
I've disable a few things that aren't needed but nothing really helps the wakelocks. When you check them with BBS you can see no application/service is linked to the wakelocks so therefore nothing you can disable will ever help to remove them. The only way I'm currently aware of is to block it on a kernel level, though this will probably break things like shealth (at least the step counting and such).

In other news, really happy with my note 4 today, great battery life :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] yoniinfante:
you can share your rom and everything you can if you don't mind, to help other getting terrible battery life, thanks cheers:fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
Is my battery normal?

I think after the LP update 5.0.1 boc5 the battery drains faster havent got 6h of sot yet

Todays stats: (with ultra power saving mode on sometimes and power saving for a bit)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] darkbahamut:
I use Wamanlite and Perseus kernel. I have a few things disabled like shealth and G+, but nothing that will have a real effect on battery life.

To be honest the main ways to get long battery life are to avoid high screen brightness. Having to run at high brightness (like being outdoors) will easily triple idle power consumption with the screen on so it has a massive effective. Trying to avoid high brightness, tweaking the auto brightness down a step or two and undervolting can really help battery life. I have my A57s at peak frequencies undervolted by 150mv which is a big power decrease.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] yoniinfante:
thank you sir...can you share screenshots of your Perseus settings, cheers
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Fuzzi99:
after the lollipop update on the 910U

took this morning but didn't remember to take charge screenshot
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
How? Are you on a ROM? Rooted?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Fuzzi99:
running stock, was in regular Power saving mode though
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
All day long?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Fuzzi99:
yes, had a warmachine tournament and I use the war room app instead of stat cards
[Galaxy Note 4 General] yoniinfante:
sir, congrats u have a hell of device, like Ive told a lot of people, every device performs differently, cheers:fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
Stock battery?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
Todays usage was awesome!!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Fuzzi99:
Yes stock battery
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dorinrockeru:
And how you guys use screen brightness?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
There are many if us SD users who get great battery life.. Especially on a rom like FK but even on stock,still great.. I'm 7-8 hrs sot average per cycle with several 11-12hrs max days, which I've posted here many times..

Ps. This is even on stock LP which I've been testing the past couple weeks on my second SD note4 (910W8's btw).. Many mixed reviews on LP of course and some with poor life and others with better.. I've seen good life thus far but overall, I'm staying on kk for a while until LP gets its issues worked out. It's rather underwhelming actually, especially with all the hype and build up it had..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Just a quick repost of a couple recent cycles.. First is LP and second was KK
[Galaxy Note 4 General] h8Aramex:
Thanks. I absolutely have no idea which one to buy now.

From this: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8718/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-exynos-review/10

Snapdragon should have a better battery life.

But then people with Exynos come in and obliterate that claim by posting those godly screen-on and standby times.

I want to order a variant today.

Unlocked. But which?

Seriously all my previous purchases have been much much easier than this.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alom5:
Just buy one. Most people charge the phone once a day. It's good enough to get through the day so it's fine. I only ever had max just under 5hrs sot but the phone gets used for a variety of things and a lot of accounts syncing so getting through the day is the most important thing. Average at 4hrs sot. I'm not going to save a lot of money on my electric bills by charging every other day. ..but that's life lol
[Galaxy Note 4 General] podface:
Help please. Wifi killing battery when asleep...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Gold3nCloud:
Use LeanDroid App. It'll manage your wifi. When screen off, it'll turn it off and will turn it back on as you unlock your phone.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dorinrockeru:
Well i have tried the factory reset but no success. ..the battery drain it's still the same...I'm going back to KitKat, we should thank again to Samsung because they are playing with our money, Samsung should write on firmware updates something like xda developer's ''Do it at your own risk " ????
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
There's little or no difference between LP and KK. It's all about wakelocks and services drain.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
there is nothing wrong with lolipop battery its same with kitkat for me.. sometimes it just gets battery drains by apps which is 5.0 problem not from samsung.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Vichenec:
Just want to confirm, is this a normal battery life on current lollipop builds? I've seen some phenomenal battery claims, but was never able to achieve anything even close to it. Also I have to mention that I live in Thailand and I have never seen the temperature dropping below +28 Celsius. I constantly monitor cpu frequency and it never goes above 1300 ghz does anyone else have these issues, and average battery life.

PS. My wife has s6 edge and her battery life is much better, without any root or tweaks... Unlike mine
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dorinrockeru:
For me this LP update it's not good, i get 3 hours screen on from 6 hours in KK with the same aps and same usage dayli
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
As has been discussed on here, Google Play services is causing bad wakelocks and excessive battery drain, it's a know bug. If you're rooted and have a wakelock dectector app, you can see the phone doesn't go into deep sleep. I get 5-6hours screen on time with LP after cutting out the wakelocks. Here's an article by XDA on the Services bug...

http://www.xda-developers.com/psa-google-play-services-wakelock-affects-many-5-x-roms/
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jorexapps:
I've asked earlier, but I haven't get answer. What app would you recommend for detecting battery drain on non-rooted Note 4? I want to find, and uninstall or at least switch-off problematic app.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bekasulaberidze:
... and what about 'total connection time' problem ? it is 10x bigger than regular usage
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pedmond:
I'm using eStar Energy Saver.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jorexapps:
[MENTION=516745]pedmond[/MENTION], thanks a lot for the reply. Could you tell me what stock apps should be turned-off to get the best battery performance?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Gold3nCloud:
You can use GSM Battery Monitor; however, it won't give you much info like other apps, but they require root. I'm non-rooted as well. I know the feeling lmao. I regret buying AT&T Note 4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
Never had a problem with that. My wakelocks all came from Google Play services and some Samsung bloatware. All solved by using a wakelock dectector and the app Servicely to disable the offending services and apps. I've gone from around 3hours SOT to 5-6SOT.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jorexapps:
So what screen time would you consider as normal? Without games or any havy apps.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
You need to be rooted, I use Better Battery Stats to detect wakelocks and Servicely to disable services and kill background apps.

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4.30-6hours. Remember to disable GPS, WiFi always scanning, Passpoint, anything that will use the sensors, NFC etc etc.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jorexapps:
How about SHealth? Should I switch it off?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pedmond:
The apps I turned off:

Google Chrome (I use Firefox)

Google Play Books

Google Play Movies

Hangouts

HP Print services plugin

Messenger (I use a different one)

Pages Manager

Samsung Print Service plugin

Samsung push service

TalkBack

WhatsApp (I don't use it)

Best of luck!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
Yes. Disable it if you're rooted.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Gold3nCloud:
I wish Android System and Android OS would calm the fk down. Android System and OS stays awake and prevent my phone to go to deep sleep.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BlackCrow-It:
I've updated google play services. And now Gmail doesn't work. When I try to open, it open a window that say google play has stopped to work. It would be great if I could unistall the update I did before but I can't find in Play store.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
Go to applications manager either running or all tap on google play services unistall updates and you will be notified that you need to update it

Or search on google "google play services play store" and it will redirect you to the play store to the hidden app
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joe1blue:
I copied and pasted myown comment "think I just discovered a fix after updating to 5.0, I am running stock just for the info, all I did was boot into recovery and wipe cashe partition about 3-4 times and that seemed to have worked very well battery life is back to normal. Can someone who has this problem confirm?"
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
If can't root, Gsam is about as good as it gets with what it has to work with.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BlackCrow-It:
Ok I found it but I can't unistall the update. I can only disable.. what should I do?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabi11:
For rooted devices, which one do you think is better - better battery stats or wakelock detector?

What is the difference between them anyway?

I've always used bbs btw...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bekasulaberidze:
okay my friend, I'll try it and can you tell me exactly what apps have you frozen and disabled via servicely ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
Disable..it will do it automatically
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Very subjective but if want specific wakelock stats and info WD is easier to read and understand.. BBS is great app too and more in depth info overall
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Bun-G:
Hi guys & girls, I recently brought a new Note 4 two weeks ago and its awesome but 2 times this week now I've stuck the phone on charge to get a boost & the fast charge facility has not kicked in.. meaning its only charged about 20% in 30minutes.

If I restart the Note it seems to correct itself but it is a bit frustrating that the phone is less than a month old and 1 of its main selling points isn't working properly.

I have got a sm-n910f running Lollipop 5.0.1

My phones not rooted and I usually clear open apps before sticking the phone on charge.

Fast charge is toggled on. Can anyone give me any suggestions to what might fix this? Thanks for your help
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dorinrockeru:
Well it's sems like the lollipop it's crap for N910F. ..i have tried everything with no luck, i will try to root my note, maybe. ...i don't see some major changes in lollipop vs KK. ..some graphics. ..but i think i will flash back KK untill Samsung release some new updates to fix the issue of battery drain ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bekasulaberidze:
KK is better, tried everything on lollipop no good results, downgraded to KK
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dorinrockeru:
Any risk with the downgrade? ...I still have waraty on my note
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bekasulaberidze:
No worries. just flash official firmware through Odin, that's all
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
System and SYSTEMUI are murdering my battery without mercy - 30% CPU usage each. I get about 3.5h SOT if I'm lucky [emoji30]

My note 4 is almost as bad as my old Galaxy Nexus now.

Sent from my SM-N910U
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Gold3nCloud:
Mine isn't that bad. I get about 5 or 6-7 hrs SOT, but still seeing Android System and OS keeping my phone awake making me feel like I can get more out of this beast. Have you tried factory resetting it and also performing "Wipe cache partition" through recovery mod? You getting 3.5 hr SOT is really bad tbh.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
I've wiped EVERYTHING three times with the same issue.

I was getting twice the usage on KK . But I really love LP. Smooth and clean UI. I wish I could figure this one out.

Sent from my SM-N910U
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Gold3nCloud:
Are you using any kind of live wallpapers or something? System UI is crossing the limit. Use Greenify app to freeze the apps that you do not want running in the background. Do you leave your wifi or data on all the time? Did you try taking out the battery and installing it back on? (It improved my battery life. Idk why or how is it even related)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
No live wallpaper. I use greenify already . Wifi is on and has always been. LTE is disabled (running 3g). Battery removed a few times (and swapped with another ).

I am currently running Sweet ROM, but it did the same thing on full sock. [emoji22]

I'd love to wipe and start over again, but it takes so damn long to set things up again since I haven't been restoring much using titanium because I wanted to avoid any problems due to that. ?

Sent from my SM-N910U
[Galaxy Note 4 General] podface:
Any idea what connectivityservice is and how to reduce it?

Getting around 3hrs sot :(
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Gold3nCloud:
Don't leave them always on because when wifi is always on or data, apps will do their job and transfer packages back and forth, which will keep your phone awake most of the time. You have like 2 hrs and 30 mins held awake within 48% of your battery. Not good! Use Leandroid app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teqtic.leandata&hl=en) to manage your wifi and data connectivity. It'll auto shut off wifi/data/bluetooth, etc..and will turn it back on as soon as you unlock your phone. You'll get more advantage out of rooted device though. :good:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
I've never had to turn my wifi or data off, ever. I'd prefer to find out why those two processes are continually running on high CPU for no apparent reason - they are what keeps draining this phone.

As an experiment, I'll put my device on airplane mode tonight and see what happens.

Sent from my SM-N910U