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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muken:
Have you unlocked the boot loader and can confirm that?

Coz post #21 in the following thread says otherwise: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=55719129

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Maybe it's also good to list things that are confirmed to work after unlocking?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tocirah1:
That sounds like a great idea!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tilal6991:
I have an unlocked bootloader and TrackID works fine.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tocirah1:
Any news on any of the other functions?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tilal6991:
TBH I've put the rest in the "magic and possibly placebo" category in my head. I don't see much difference between when features like Bravia and BINOZ are turned on and turned off.

Plus I'm not on stock ATM.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] dillalade:
Is your CM build working well for you?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tilal6991:
Well it's a WIP so it's not really very usable. Quite a few things a broken and I have no plans of releasing anything until I am happy with the result.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Jiyeon90:
You can install TrackID on any device, it's on the play store, why would it stop working

Sent from my Xperia Z2
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] degraaff:
On older xperia phones, trackid couldn't work without DRM keys, but I guess Sony removed that requirement.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muken:
I have just unlocked my Z3C. Anything I should confirm working/not working?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tocirah1:
There's a list of stuff in the OP that's been either only Reported as working/not working or completely unconfirmed. I'd really appreciate it if you could check on those. For reference:

MirrorLink

Miracast

Sony Entertainment Media (Music Unlimited, Videos Unlimited, etc.)

BIONZ Engine

X-Reality and other Album Settings (Bravia Engine)

Sony Triluminos Engine

Other Camera Features/Modes

DSEE HX

Audio Surround Settings

S-Force Front Surround

Noise Cancelling Features (w/ Headphones)

Audio Headphones Settings

Hi-res Audio over DAC

You probably don't have the equipment to test all of this stuff, but anything you could confirm would help.

Thanks!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muken:
I can confirm that X-Reality / Super Vivid Mode does NOT work (I tested before unlock and then it worked)

Time Shift Camera works

Face In Camera works

I have to test the camera more, since I'm not sure if the quality has changed, the images may have lower quality... Will compare to a Z1C which is locked.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muken:
It seems like the camera is ruined :( ...

Please see attached comparison between unlocked Z3C (on top) and untouched Z1C (bottom). This is really bad news!

Why can't Sony inform the users about trivial features like this getting ruined, instead of talking about them not being able to take responsibility for custom ROMs...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tocirah1:
Really sorry to hear that =/

Are you sure you're not just on different shooting modes for the two cameras? Also how did you take that photo, with a third camera?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] muken:
I manually selected HDR mode on both phones, so it is exactly the same mode.

Just to get a quick comparison, I took a picture with a third camera. On the screen you can see that the quality is quite poor. That was why I suspected something was not right in my previous post and grabbed my wifes Z1C.

So, yes I'm sure. The quality of the shoots in low light are not very good at all any more.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tocirah1:
Maybe try to take the same photo in Manual 20MP mode without any SCN? That should preclude any Sony stuff and should produce a similar photo. Maybe it has to do with your display settings? Could you upload the photos you took directly?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Iruwen:
Not Samsung (KNOX). Actually, Sony is very developer friendly. They just protect their software algorithm and the things they have to protect because of licensing issues I guess (e.g. Miracast <=> HDCP).
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] perlmane:
I sideload on Sammy. It works great!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Pondera:
I am considering too. I have been waiting for years for a phone like this. But losing features is a deal breaker. I will wait and see if there will be an option to root without unlocking bootloader. If yes then i will buy it if no.... I either gonna wait more or fly to Samsung. Everyone knows i am actually an LG fan but they only make nice phones with the size of my foot. When it comes to medium sized phones they just produce cr.p unfortunately. I am gonna die waiting it seems for a good medium sized phone...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] slapshot2286:
Could we not back up DRM keys using the Z1 tutorial, unlock the bootloader and root, then re-lock the bootloader and restore the DRM keys, thus having root after locking the bootloader?

I'd imagine that if there's already a bootloader unlock and a root method less than a month after the release of the phone, that there's bound to be a better method on the horizon fairly soon...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tribemac:
To back up ta partition you first need to have root, so no its not possible.

Skickat från min LG-V500 via Tapatalk
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] CollinsJ:
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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Cypher_01:
I don't get it...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] sennan:
Im still buying one (on its way as we speak) but I am veryconfident there will be a locked root option in Android L soon. Call me optimistic but I think it will be fine :)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] graffixnyc:
My Z3C will be here Monday. I do not plan on unlocking the bootloader until we can figure out how to get root and back up the partition. I will talk to some other sony devs I know.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] istux:
I cannot stand all these ads anymore, please find a way to root without unlocking quickly!!! :crying:
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] boojay:
You are gonna LOVE this phone!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Fruktsallad:
Adblock plus let's you do that even without root. Runs as a proxy service on localhost. Check it out.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] oryan_dunn:
I think PS4 Remote Play should also be added to the list of unknown. Wouldn't surprise me to see that requiring DRM keys as well.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] boojay:
I tried ABP, doesn't seem to work well and even caused YouTube to stall.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Zanr Zij:
It work ok on my phone. Some site have problems and you have to list it manual as bypass proxy list
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] zazadj81:
hello, I have a Z3, unfortunately I have lost the keys unlocked drm.

Sony Video Unlimited does not work tells me no network available.

Yesterday I restored and ribloccato Boot, and create the firmware I noticed that he creates a folder TA, there are two files within fota.sin and another I can not remember. This folder should contain the keys drm. ok Sony tells you how to unlock via the website, I give you my mine, and you know already that I unlocked, but if I restore you've got to give back the keys also drm, because I paid for the phone I do not have to have him neutered some functions. then if it breaks and you send it under warranty make me pay what they replace. So Sony finally via IMEI can be traced back to the phone and send keys, and say with this firmware can automatically restore the drm keys, but still lost the warranty. Then it is true if I put up another phone I can risk the Brick, but I think in the end that the keys drm should be generic to all devices, and then I think if if the phone must be under warranty, and then they tell you that you've unlocked, you tell him I'll pay ok but I forgive everything as before, so they know how to re-insert the key. this is my idea of ​​how sony should behave.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Bäcker:
if all devices had the same DRM key that would totally render the whole DRM protection pointless :D
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tocirah1:
I think it will probably work since it seems to work even on non Sony phones.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] oryan_dunn:
The app opens on non-Sony phones, yes. However, PS4 remote play isn't even released on the Z3 line yet. I have a hunch Sony would have the app use the DRM keys just like they do for the other xperia content apps, like video unlimited.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnFQ5zXIPE&feature=player_embedded#t=105

You can see, when he clicks the PS4 remote play, he get's a popup box that reads:

'The "PS4 Remote Play" app will be available on Google Play soon!'

So the fact they got the Playstation app running on another phone means squat.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] ayamgoreng:
any idea when remote play will be available ?

personally I don't care about low light processing algorithm (rarely need it),

but I do care about remote play vs DRM.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Zanr Zij:
I can confirm that audio quality and volume on LB Z3 much better ( and louder ) than UB Z3

I tested side by side LB Z3 Dual and UB Z3 D6653 with disable and enable Clear Audio+!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] oryan_dunn:
PS4 Remote Play app released:

http://www.androidcentral.com/ps4-remote-play-hits-play-store-support-xperia-z3

Anyone with a PS4 and an unlocked bootloader want to give it a shot?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] smonist:
Are you talking about the speakers or the headphone jack?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Zanr Zij:
Both but speaker much more difference!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tocirah1:
This is very sad news :(

Do you happen to know if this is related to the loss of the ClearAudio+ or S-Front functionality?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] GhostLeader:
Not working :/ (Z3)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] oryan_dunn:
So, another thing that unlocking the bootloader takes away that was not listed on the unlock page. SMH
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] perlmane:
This is why Sony losses money on their phones. They forgot their customers are more important than they are. Soon they will have no customers left. I am gone for good.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Zanr Zij:
I just tested both effects. They are still working.

I'm thinking about DSEE HX and Hi-Res Audio.

Without any effect, LB Z3 still produce much better audio, esp speaker.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tocirah1:
Neither of those should affect volume as far as I know. Take a look at this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/z3/general/dsee-hx-hi-res-audio-t2868556

Specifically, this post has a link to a youtube vid with more information about DSEE HX

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56275239&postcount=156
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] istux:
Thanks for testing.

Anyway, are you sure they sounded the same way before unlocking the D6653 model?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Zanr Zij:
I also just tested on UB D6633 and all the same.

D6653 sound same as D6633 before and after unlock.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] DRStevens:
My main concern is that I will forever be reliant of ROM developers to release a stable ROM after unlocking.

I don't own a Z3C, but I was seriously considering purchasing one before reading this thread. This is really the only phone out there with these specs in this size. Besides an OG Droid, which was basically a pseudo Nexus phone, I've only owned Nexus phones. I may be spoiled by this fact, but I've always found it necessary to reinstall the stock image from the manufacturer (Google) at some point. I can't imagine being reliant on ROM developers for my phone to work without the ability to fall back on this safety net. I imagine the Nexus Android ROM development scene is a lot more robust than that for Sony phones too.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] kopsis:
I guess I don't understand your concern. You can run the stock Sony ROM with an unlocked BL and even flash official updates. You won't ever get the DRM protected functionality back, but that wouldn't be present in 3rd party ROMs anyway.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Zanr Zij:
He ready to unlock but want to have stable + better AOSP Rom ( than stock ) in near future surely. Maybe DooM or some dev only can talk to him :D
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] DRStevens:
I guess that is a good point. Is the stock Sony ROM less stable after loss of DRM? How does a user know that these features don't work. How integrated into the OS are these non-functioning features?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Zanr Zij:
After unlock, I got better battery life and truly stable at all.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] systems_uk:
I can confirm that PS4 remote play, PSN App, Bravia Engine, Sony Entertainment Media all fail after unlocking bootloader (I tested them all and working perfectly beforehand). Camera noise is higher and audio clarity "seems" worse, or I'm listening for it to be bad.

I definitely wouldn't have unlocked bootloader if I'd realised all this in advance, but the Sony dev unlocker page didn't have any warnings on. Now it's got the camera warning but nothing else.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] perlmane:
Totally agree! I am a very unhappy customer.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] badhat:
I was quickly scanning through this thread and wondering if a custom ROM (e.g., Cyanogenmod) would ever include the DRM keys baked in?

If the answer is no I'm really thinking I'd just like to return the phone :(

EDIT: I read through the rest of the posts and the situation looks pretty bleak for someone, like me, who wants a rooted device. I do want to say that the device itself is incredibly nice and I really love the hardware -- I'd waited so long for a nicely sized mobile with flagship specs! For me, though, the DRM problems are a deal-breaker and I'll be returning the z3c ASAP, even though it'll probably mean a restocking fee.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] gabsi55:
Yes, and no word that miracast stops working.

Thanks Sony! Give us a option to ge the drm keys back!

Great hardware but this drm thing is ****...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] perlmane:
They keep reducing their forecast for phone sales. This is a key reason. They do not care about customer satisfaction as much as they care about tree hugging on to yesterday's failed approaches.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Iruwen:
No it's not, almost nobody cares about this issue. People unlocking bootloaders are an unimportant minority. And even those that to probably do it so they can install CM and don't care about Sony's proprietary software. You don't lose functions with others devices because those functions don't exist to begin with.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] perlmane:
Really? Nobody else had a camera?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] donbabbeo:
Apparently i'm not the only one interested in this jewel but sort of reluctant because of this DRM situation...

Can we make it a little more clear? Let's try to make some educated guess...

Looking at the first page we have:

Bravia Engine: the purpose? As far as i read, everyone advice is to deactivate it because alter excessively the color reproduction.

Advanced camera algorithms: honestly i'm not a great fans of photos, but many review are suggesting that using manual mode give a lot better pictures (and i'm guessing that in manual mode many of those algorithms are less used). Considering that with Lollipop there should be a new camera API with RAW support this should reduce further the need for those algorithms. I'm right or completely off the track?

S-Force Front Surround: what's the usage of speaker? Did someone around there really use them regularly? If i need to listen something more than few minutes i just plug in the earphones.

Sony Entertainment Media: on a computer they will be categorized under bloatware.

Audio Quality and Volume Enhancements: this is unfortunate, i suppose those enhancements are delivered by the internal DAC, so no DRM no DAC...

PS4 Remote Play: neat feature, but almost a gimmick one imho.

Miracast and MirrorLink: what i'm asking here is that those are related to the SoC right? This is not the first S801 on the market and i suppose there is an 801 device that still support Miracast and MirrorLink with unlocked bootloader. If the driver is the same on every S801 we can't simply use it from another phone?

Then we have some unknown features:

Sony Triluminos Engine: shouldn't be grouped with Bravia Engine? Is not the same thing?

Other Camera Features/Modes: i'm positive that other than those algorithms there isn't anything else preventing the use of the camera.

DSEE HX: grouped with other audio enhancements? Probably it will not work and honestly reading what it does it's not a great loss.

Noise Cancelling Features (w/ Headphones): confirmation on this?

Headphones Settings: confirmation?

Hi-res Audio over DAC: same as other audio enhancements?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] geckoFeet:
Just in case someone from Sony is monitoring this, it's a deal breaker for me, too. I was really looking forward to this phone, but a couple of years down the pike, after Sony has stopped supporting the thing, I won't be able to update the OS without degrading the camera and audio.

Nope. Nope. Nope.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Iruwen:
I doubt there will be stock based ROMs then, so you'd probably switch to a CM based rom which isn't affected by this issue at all...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] geckoFeet:
Not sure why there wouldn't be stock-based ROMS in a few years - there are for my four-year-old Samsung Galaxy S, although I am, in fact, running CM. But that's not the problem. The problem is that the camera (not important for me) and audio (very important for me) quality depend on Sony's proprietary software, and there's no chance of getting this running without the DRM keys.

Worse, Sony is not being very open about any of this. They're the ones that provide that means for unlocking the bootloader, but at first they just gave a boilerplate warning about losing the warranty (fair enough) and that was about it. Then, after some of their customers discovered that their cameras weren't working as well, they put up a warning about the camera. They're still not letting us know about what else might be degraded.

It's not like people have found some kind of exploit in order to unlock the bootloader. Sony itself provides the unlock. This is a horrible way to treat their customers.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Tennic:
CM is not affected by the loss of DRM and consequent pictures in lower quality? I thought that if DRM is lost, the same will be with CyanogenMod :confused:
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Iruwen:
No, only Sony's proprietary image enhancement software algorithm is protected that way, which doesn't exist in CM anyway.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] tribemac:
They things you lose thrue lost of Drm only work with Sony software so it doesn't affect you at all if you using cm
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] donbabbeo:
Sure about that? Are you saying that DAC and miracat and mirrorlink will work on cm?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Iruwen:
Miracast doesn't enforce DRM and CM supports it, at least on some devices, so as long as the device supports it it should be possible. It's an open standard, I don't know if a closed source kernel module is required but even then DRM wouldn't be the showstopper.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] perlmane:
What about the loss of camera quality?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] gabsi55:
I would hope that CM will support Miracast on the Z3C.. The other things protected with the drm keys are not a real deal breaker I think.

But why aren`t all the affected things listed on the unlock site? And why the hell you can`t restore the keys with the sony flash tool if you decide to go back to stock with locked bootloader? (If you want to sell it or something like this)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Iruwen:
Those are the real questions. Sony should really make a complete list on that page so everybody can decide for himself. And restoring the keys based on the IMEI also shouldn't be too hard, if that's still possible the device obviously isn't broken so this shouldn't be a warranty issue.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Nebucatnetzer:
Are there some more photos which show the difference between a locked and an unlocked phone?

The camera quality is the only thing which I'm really concerned about.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] _hz:
http://xdaforums.com/z3-compact/general/camera-picture-samples-unlock-t2898606/ ;)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Nebucatnetzer:
Looks really not nice.

How's it under normal conditions?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] marumari:
It takes pretty decent pictures under normal conditions; it's mostly just lousy under poor lighting.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] gabsi55:
I took some pictures under real poor lighting (Google Camera, Open Camera) and I think the Z3C is doing well even with unlocked BL.

The DRM keys are not used by third party cameras at all I guess. Google Camera HDR is pretty decent too.

Although I haven`t compared images before/after unlock on a bigger screen...

Coming from the Nexus 4 it is a real experience :D
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Nebucatnetzer:
That's a good idea I'll make some comparison shots between Google Camera and the Sony one to see if I can see a difference.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Zanr Zij:
Unlocked one do better under normal condition: better color rendering, more detail. Sony apply too much strong noise filter.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Tennic:
I have noticed that 12800iso only works automatically with the sony camera :(

So, I think that giving up the drm is also waives the 12800iso, that have been very useful in certain situations.

I was not able to set this ISO with no other app
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] gabsi55:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.pro

Someone said with this app it`s possible.. I haven`t tried it though.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] smonist:
Why would someone even take pictures with ISO 12800? They would just look terrible...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Tennic:
I took some pictures in the night @ ISO 12800, and have an acceptable quality, considering we're talking about a phone. Much better than other phones at 3200 ISO :)

Talking as owner of Nikon D800, the ISO 12800 this phone was pleasantly impressed me :)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] perlmane:
What camera software did you use?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Tennic:
The only software with which I have ISO 12800 is Sony Stock Camera :)

I also use "Camera 360", "A Better Camera" and "Google Nexus Camera", but do not let me set 12800iso :(
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] GoldPunch:
Hello guys. I am a Z2 owner. After 4.4.4 update (it released yesterday) same bad effects are come to us too. (I am a DRM loser too :( )

I notice these:

I cant remote play. (PS4)

Miracast is dont work.

My camera is worser than before. But I solved this problem.

Open the Camera app. Select Manual. And then, select SCN - Night scene. Sounds easy but its working.

I took some pictures.

First pictures: I took with Superauto (Witout DRM)

Second pictures (Night scene mode)

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B1uHu14UNm4TRzVvNnVlQmtKVEk&usp=sharing

Sorry for bad english by the way.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] istux:
Guys, after two weeks I unlocked the bootloader of my z3 compact yesterday. And I'm very happy of my choice, no regrets so far :D

I confirm all of these reports :good: especially "surround settings" and "clearaudio+" that work properly also on my z3 compact (d5803) :)

I don't know where I should see... :confused:

I confirm that all Bravia Engine stuff doesn't work anymore (I actually don't miss it, as I like realistic colours).

I confirm low-light problems with the camera (in case of low light, Google camera with HDR works really fine). Anyway in normal conditions, pictures are beautiful.

I disagree about "S-Force Front Surround": it still works properly on my z3 compact (d5803) :good::good::good:

And I totally disagree about a lower sound quality and volume. My z3 compact has the same performances, the same sound and the same power that it had before unlocking. Same rings, same sound from speakers ...and absolutely the same quality when I listen to the same songs with the same headphones (I love music and I'm very finicky about this).

I can't help with PS4 Remote Play, sorry.

If you have further questions, just ask ;)