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[Galaxy Note 4 General] lilmikey201:
hello

i could use someones help

im looking to get a note 4,theres a pretty cheap one on ebay but its from canada

will it work with my att sim card and does it have LTE

it is unlocked

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/121590003218...trkparms=gh1g=I121590003218.N7.S1.M152.R1.TR2

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anyone?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
It's a fake I would say. Only expandable to 32GB (sim card) (should be 128GB) is 16GB in size - smallest available is 32GB (in a NOTE 4) and it only has 1GB of RAM (should be 3GB). Bet it's a chinese knock off. You can purchase the same phone on tiny deal for $120.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] lilmikey201:
oh wow, thanks
[Galaxy Note 4 General] daniel4653:
Yeah that was definitely a fake. All note 4s come with at least 32gb of internal memory.

Also the price should be a give away. You can't get one under $480-500 at the moment.

Sent from my SM-N910W8

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You might want to check out this deal.

It's a refurbished ATT note 4 unlocked, on sale for $480 shipped.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/191519747626?_mwBanner=1&rmvSB=true

Sent from my SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ere1nion:
Thought that the dual SIM was with 16Gb but yeah when too good to be true, not true must be
[Galaxy Note 4 General] JZ666:
Is it possible to flash the sprint lolipop rom on to Canadian note 4? It's the same model sn910w8 something right
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
No buddy sprint is SM-910P and you can't flash its firmware onto your phone. You'll end up with a beautiful 800$ paperweight. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Lol.....

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] daniel4653:
I think.he meant a custom ROM. Not the tar files which you would end up woth a paper weight. there isn't much harm in trying to flash the rom. On my Sprint S4 I would flash Verizon , ATT, and international Roms. They would boot up and work without any modifications.

Sent from my SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
That's if you flash a custom kernel. Also back in the s4 days there were about 2 variants for North America one CDMA one GSM. Now just about every provider has its own variant but it just so happens that the TMO and Canadian variant are almost identical. So if he wants to go and flash a sprint rom I don't think it would work without a custom touchwiz kernel. Which doesn't exist, yet. I might be wrong though. I've been wrong before... ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Exactly right...it wont work without a custom kernel and even with a kernel he wont get a network connection.

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cr4ckwh0re:
OMG can't wait anymore

So freaking long wait for the lolipop I spoke to samsung today and the same song began to play all over again! :crying:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
Not sure what you expected Samsung to say. The update will come when the carrier you are with releases it. Regardless of what Samsung does. I tweeted Rogers a few days ago and they basically said the same thing, Lollipop will be released for the Note 4 "TBD" (to be determined). So basically, whenever the hell they feel like it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] daniel4653:
There is a T-Mobile 5.0 TW lollipop custom ROK right? So should be able to flash that and see if it works.

Sorry ignore that, I was thinking about the international Snapdragon 5.0 TW Rom.

Sent from my SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
I have a few friends left over from my days working with both Bell and Rogers. I was told they don't even have any information IF or WHEN they will receive the update from Samsung. Thus the TBD instead of a rough idea. Remember as well it takes Samsung a few weeks to a month after building the rom before the even give it to the Carriers. You can confirm that by checking build dates to release dates.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ciscostud:
Lollipop sucks and its not just a Samsung thing. My bro's HTC M8 is much slower so he's pissed and my friends S5 is too.

Google dropped the ball and hopefully 5.1 is much better.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
Not sure I agree with that. I had 5.0.1 on my Nexus 5 before getting the Note 4 and had no issues. I thought Lollipop was awesome and my Nexus 5 ran great.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
20$ says I get my s6 edge before my note 4 gets lollipop! Any takers?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zxaz:
well.....I was sure those band where right too...however reliying on the following link.. http://xdaforums.com/note-4/help/difference-note-4-lte-t2900777/post55937000#post55937000 it seem that about all variant are "pentaband" or so....the international version "910u" have all the band it take except the 700 mhz `band 17` wich the Canadians carriers are beginning to use it but barely since its all news here.... i`m waiting on the `w8`canadians versions too.....honestly since I've just a week to wait and have made already a deposit!! i`m gonna wait....

finally EP2008 made the best bet to have it quickest way possible.....lolll
[Galaxy Note 4 General] scranj:
In case anyone is wondering I am using the SM-N910U note 4 on rogers and getting lte speeds.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Awesome. I want that phone. Where did you get it? I'm in Toronto.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] scranj:
Bought from a store that sells unlocked phones from overseas, I'm in vancouver.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hpacura:
That's great. But SM-910C is better because it has Band 17 (700 Mhz) which Rogers is launching soon. Rogers works on Band 4 (1700 Mhz), Band 7 (2600 Mhz), and Band 17 (700 Mhz). So far couldn't find any place selling the C version yet.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ekjl:
Just a note that C is Cat-4 whereas U is Cat-6
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hpacura:
That's the downside of the C version which is missing the CAT6. The current CAT4 speed is already very impressive so a little trade off of the CAT6 for an extra band 17 is worth it I think at least.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ToyMusha:
Mind telling me the name of that store? I too live in Vancouver
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Dazog:
Does the Canadian Model have an unlocked bootloader?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Every model I've owned S3, S4, S5, Note 2,3 have had unlocked bootloader.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] an_xda:
My Rogers pre-order has shipped. I do not think i will get it by Friday though as they usually take a few days to process it at the warehouse before sending it to the store... :(
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
Lucky guy, hopefully you get it Friday! I'm still waiting for a call from the Samsung store and Telus has no new information.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ToyMusha:
My local Samsung store has over 450 preorders. I am at around 300... I doubt I'll even be get my Note4 this month...:crying:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] an_xda:
I was #2 (or #1), I pre-ordered literally a month ago lol
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ToyMusha:
Lucky!:good:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gqman69:
Well, I've got a pre-order at Futureshop, if they don't call me this week I will go bezerk :eek:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
Wow which store is that? I preordered from the Edmonton store a few weeks ago but I have no idea where in line I am. I need this phone Friday, I'm obsessing over it way too much ha ha.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ToyMusha:
Richmond BC:crying:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dbzgod:
Samsung Canada has finally posted a product page listing more specs:

http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/mobile/galaxy-note/galaxy-note/SM-N910WZKERWC

4G FDD LTE

B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700)

Its the same as what Bell has listed.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gqman69:
What is really nice is the (700)B17 and AWS, I can now choose Videotron if they ever have another round of 6-10GB for 60-80$.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Lol....im still trying to figure out why anyone would want an s6.

Are you keeping your N4 also though...that wouldn't be so bad i guess

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
I always upgrade regardless of the phone tbh. I'm getting the s6 and then the m9 and the G4. If the make a OnePlus two I'll cop that too and then the note 5, rinse lather repeat. It's just how roll.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Lol...your worse than me! Do you keep em all or just sell em once you grab the latest? Ive had a hard time parting with some of mine

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
I usually keep 2 at a time. So I'll sell my note to get the M9. But I'm not sure 100%. It has to feel like an upgrade. I might skip the M9 altogether and go for the G4. I have no issues moving on. (-;
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Who'd take that bet lol? Of course you'll get your S6 before our Note4's get LP! Heck, the G4 will probably come out before we see LP..

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Same here but only cuz of connections I have. If I had to pay out of pocket few times a year, there would be no way. I get to test a lot of phones and keep some/buy at sweet price or get by doing some pc work in return. Kind of addicted to it now.. Just want to play with the latest hardware. I do tend to stay with Samsungs more often then not as my longer use daily though but that may change soon.. However I do plan on keeping my Note4 for a long time. I really am used to the stylus now and the screen size. Although I may go back to my nexus 6 now that 5.1 LP is here.. Couldn't use it as my daily with the first LP release.

Will keep my Note4 for sure.. I usually hold onto a few, give away sometimes to a family member and sell one here and there..or it was a tester and I give it back.. Recently had a One Plus One for six weeks. That was actually a damn good phone.

Before the launch data I thought for sure I'd get a S6 but disappointed a bit so not sure now.. Will test it out I guess.. Maybe if I get a 128GB model then I'd be ok without the SD slot.

My bud who just got back from MWC (who also is not a fan of the non removable battery nor expandable memory) did say it was still a very nice phone to hold, see and use in person and the new leaner TW was a noticeable change. So who knows

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Btw, Rogers just recently launched Cat6 LTE-A in certain areas but don't offer any phones yet that can utilize it.. Until the S6's.

Im confused as I thought most Note4's were Cat6. In another thread I have people swearing to me they are but I have several links to tech specs sites that say all varients except the 910S are Cat4.

Anyone of you have more clarity on this?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] daniel4653:
I disagree with you as well. I think Lollipop is a nice upgrade. And battery life on my LG g3 increased a lot. I'd say by about 10% compared to stock. And the design on it is much better than KitKat. Yes it is more colorish but its better than greys found in KK. CM12 and touchwiz lollipop ran great on my galaxy s4.

Sent from my SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
Wish I had that kind of money to buy all those phones... :cool:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Confirmed that almost all Note 4's and all Snapdragon variants have the hardware for Cat6 lte but many North American varients (our W8 included) don't have it activated (via firmware) from the carrier.

Rogers was first to launch (in certain major cities in Canada) LTE-A cat6 with carrier aggregation but no phones to actually use it yet.. Except a Nexus6. The S6 or Edge is supposed to have it and Iphone6 is supposed to get update to allow it.

I haven't got into an area to test (with Nexus6) but disappointed the Note4 can't do this already.

Btw Rogers Cat6 is only 225mbps max (and not 300mbps) because only using 20mhz blocks on LTE bands and not 40mhz.

Still will be nice to see and hope the Note4 gets the firmware to activate it.

Currently still using my Note 4 as my daily but may switch back to my Nexus 6 now that LP 5.1 has been pushed out.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Isn't the edge variant note4 cat6, with carrier aggregation 20 (band 7)+10 (band 4) mhz max?

So far I've only seen ca on our phone in 2 places in GTA. Note, that just having ability to use ca, and having bands available, that it will use it. For example even if I force ca on my phone, it only stays on it for a minute, cause at that particular location 2600 band is strong, and 20 mhz trumps 10 mhz + 5 mhz ca.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Yeah I thought edge was too but Rogers said no (nothing activated yet). So ur saying you have actually seen ca on our Note4 (actually using two bands at once)? Allegedly that is not possible at this point. You using a W8 variant and stock firmware?

Oh and how did you *force* ca? That shouldn't be possible either? Even in service mode it can't be forced.. Any one band can.. But ca?

Currently still using my Note 4 as my daily but may switch back to my Nexus 6 now that LP 5.1 has been pushed out.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Yeah once you go into root of the service menu, you can enable ca.

Yes, on my Rogers phone in the firmwares it came disabled, just like the rest. In the past on this thread I posted steps, to enable on our note. I also posted steps in Howard forums, in Rogers forum few months back as well. Howard, from Howard forums community has enabled ca on his edge variant, difference being that his modem can pair band 4 and band 7, in adition to our ca pairings, band 4 and 12, and band 4 and 17.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Thanks I will search and give it a try. Wanna test and see where some of the cat6 "pockets" are and if they can do 225mbps.

Im amazed how I can get 120-140mbps now on several towers around..

Currently still using my Note 4 as my daily but may switch back to my Nexus 6 now that LP 5.1 has been pushed out.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Post #594 in this thread. ?

I have hit on those speeds on number of locations as well. Personally all that speed is useless to me even with my 6gb plan. I pity those poor souls with less.

Extra capacity is always welcome, though.

Beware of too much testing ?. Speed tests can eat through data caps in minutes.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
How do you use the menu key on a phone with no menu key?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
There should be one in your Launcher - If there isn't - put one on your screen - There's of course the pull down for Settings and most apps have a 3 dot menu

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
That's what I thought but wanted to make sure since it wasn't working.

I tried that but it didn't work. ServiceMode comes up but is blank. Following your instructions does nothing.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fryguy18:
Holding the recent apps button to the left of the home button makes it behave like the menu key
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Not on every Rom - Some don't have custom actions for the capacitive keys

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8

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You're welcome....

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mikoal:
a got a few questions for you guys, maybe you can help me out?

1) Has anyone figureed out how to enable nav bar on the note 4 running kitkat on a TW rom? I understand dynamic has the option for it, i was wondering if there was a mod i could flash on a TW rom to enable it.

GravBox doesnt work and i dont want a floating bar either.

2) Do you guys know of any frozen apps/system apps that can negatively affect the battery life?

3) is it just me? I haven't really noticed too much different from stock rom to Firekat.... there are a few tweaks here and there, but overall, it seems not much has been modded, do you guys know what was done that can supposedly give bettter battery life? why not just tibu freeze them urself?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
When I was running TW based Roms - I found that Ultimate Dynamic Nav Bar was the best of the worst...

But Dynamic Kat has a Nav Bar option built in - it's an Awesome TW based Rom!!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=56250666

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mikoal:
Ya i was wondering if there's a way to extract from dk and flash it on other Roms.... Or if there were any other mods or edits available for it. Or am I out of luck....
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
I'm not sure how Brian got the Nav Bar on DK - On AOSP Roms it's a simple build.prop edit - but it doesn't work for TW based Roms

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
You confused me for a sec there when stating 2100/2600.

It is commonly stated as 1700/2600 ca or aws/2600 ca link. That's because 2100 is its own band that is not used in North America, and has nothing with aws (1700/2100 up/down).

Anyways congrats for you finding ca spots. But as I said they're few and far in between, and connection will always default back to 2600 with 20 mhz capacity over 10+5 ca, that our phone is capable of.

As far as expecting our providers, magically making it cat6, even if possible, dream on.

They might enable ca in firmware update, so that people don't have to do it manually. But as for cat. It clearly says on your box cat4,and that's what it shall stay. Since sgs4 introduced signed modems, that can only be flashed on your variant and non other, I doubt anyone will hack it either.

Yes technically it is possible to join in ca 12 and 17, 5+5, but this is provider dependent, and I haven't heard of anyone working on this combination in Canada.

Also, I'm not sure we have any spectrum on band 2, currently.

Basically, if cat6 is absolute must for you, you might better be served by edge variant, or s6's. Mainstream canadian note? Wait for note5.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
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this was on mobile syrup about Rogers lte cat6 launch in January. And it's out there.. I used to work for them and still have friends that do. One guy got 207mbps off a certain tower in East Toronto on his nexus6.

Yeah the 2100 confused me too.. Rogers does have a 2100 band (easy to find in Google search) but not sure if it's a separate 2100 or the 1700/2100 aws.. Assume it's that latter and it's combining the 2600 band 7 with the dl 2100 of band 4

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Rogers announced today that it has turned on Category 6 LTE for users in Toronto, Guelph, Vancouver and Victoria, with more cities set to benefit in the coming months.

Cat-6 LTE is the next step of Rogers’ LTE-Advanced strategy, which it unveiled in October, 2014. The idea is to use carrier aggregation with compatible hardware to reach downlink speeds of 300Mbps. Rogers implementation can achieve speeds of 225Mbps. It does this by combining 2100Mhz and 2600Mhz spectrum, which Rogers offers in 10Mhz and 20Mhz blocks respectively, to facilitate those high data speeds. Category 6 LTE supports maximum carrier aggregation of 40Mhz, whereas Cat-4 maxes out at 20Mhz.

At this time, there are no Cat-6 devices on the market, but Samsung’s Galaxy Note Edge, which was specially configured for Canadian carriers, will be the first to offer those speeds. Unlike the Note 4, which taps out at 150Mbps, the Galaxy Note Edge has the same 9×35 modem found in the Korea-only version of the Galaxy S5.

While Rogers hasn’t explicitly announced it will carry the Galaxy Note Edge, Best Buy and Future Shop recently began accepting pre-orders for the curved-screen flagship, and both Bell and Rogers are expected to begin their own pre-orders tomorrow, January 27th.

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http://mobilesyrup.com/2015/01/26/r...rategy-with-support-for-300mbps-lte-advanced/

Currently still using my Note 4 as my daily but may switch back to my Nexus 6 now that LP 5.1 has been pushed out.

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Ps. I have confirmed that our Note 4 and all Snapdragon variants are definitely "cat 6 ready" with the proper hardware and modem in them to get "up to 300mbps cat 6 speeds"

So, if many carriers haven't updated the firmware or whatever to activate it on the phones... What will it take? Do I need the cat6 firmware or is having ca "enabled" now enough and I just need to hit the correct tower?

Currently still using my Note 4 as my daily but may switch back to my Nexus 6 now that LP 5.1 has been pushed out.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Slightly OT but speaking of the S6 models,

I played with an S6 edge at the large rogers store in Pacific mall yesterday so they are definitely carrying it.

Im not impressed with it, looks really nice as does the S6 but the lack of the sd card, removable battery and tiny little screen are turn offs.

Oh and the $1200 dollar + price for the 128gb model....that made me LOL pretty hard. What a joke.

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
I totally agree with you on that. The 1200$ price tag is quite mind boggling to say the least. I wonder how may of those bad boys are going to sell. I'm still getting my 64gb s6 edge but I'll be holding on to my note 4 for good measure. The battery and memory change are not an issue for me though. I've owned several nexus devices and the OnePlus one which I absolutely loved. But the price, it is an issue.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Im usually the last guy to complain about pricing...on anything...things cost what they cost. I have 3 cars and have no clue what gas costs lol.

But.....no sd card, no removable battery, tiny little screen...and they are charging and extra $400+ for what i paid for my note 4?

Dream on samsung...not going to happen.

Take away features and jack up the price..how apple like.

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
Right on brother! Samsung has been trying to duplicate apple's brand loyalty since the get go. I've been in many arguments on many forums trying to explain the many ways samsung were emulating apple. The s6 looks like the iPhone 6 for a reason.

If the s6 is as successful as predicted samsung will once again try to bring forth tizen which is not a bad thing per say, another os might actually be good for everyone, but samsung owning both the devices and the os. Sounds familiar? If samsung accomplishes successfully rolling out tizen they will have a leg up on Apple because the will not only own the device and the os but the hardware as well. Ca-ching! And that my friend is why samsung wants to be like Apple. $$$.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
And if and when that happens looks like i will not be buying sammy devices again..hell if the note 5 ditches the sd card and removable batt I won't be buying it either.

Agree 100% with everything you just said even though it sucks lol.

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] oxxshadow:
Rogers stores already has demo units?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Pacific mall did yes...all of 2.one edge one reg s6.

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