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[Galaxy Note 4 General] kojam:
Trust me. You got it!

4 of us at my office bought that phone. We ALL loved it! ALL OF US EXPERIENCED the eMMC failure one after the other!

2 of us would put it in the fridge/freezer for at least 10 mins if it ever shut off. We could use it again for awhile. We went through this for about 6 months until deciding to ditch this phone for something else. The other 2 guys didn't bother with this nonsense.

I still have mine. I bought a board from China with the intent of replacing it. I took it apart about over 1 year ago, but don't really know what I'm doing. I don't even know if that board I bought is any good. Still, I cannot throw it away! LOL. It was a lovely phone!

Too bad...

I was a HUGE Samsung fanboy back in those days. This phone was my answer to shut up all the Apple fanboys. They were impressed...I'm no longer a fan of Samsung:

1) S3 - had to be replaced by Samsung Canada after I provided tons of proof that their product was flawed!

2) Note 4 - eMMC failure

3) Tab A - after 3 months, will not turn on. Plug it in and the battery temp IMMEDIATELY goes up to 1000 degrees! FIRE HAZARD! (i even tried again few months ago)

4) Just bought a samsung tab from some girl yesterday for $20. She said it just started falling apart even though she was gentle with it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] revized:
So was the note 4 ever released in Canada?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Yup - Was one of my favourite devices SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Yours and mine both and we both spent a ton of time on here with that device lol!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Misspent youth 🤣 Nah was a great experience! 👍🕊️
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Sure was, time well spent for sure.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] revized:
Or we could have been baking in the sun with a football uniform one? 😂
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dave678:
Looks like I might buy one since it's downgradeable to 5.0.1 or 4.4.4.

Emmc issue is caused by heat and Marshmallow.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
If anyone needs the Stock NJ3 Rom for the SM-N910W8 (Rogers) - Let me know - I've uploaded it to my DropBox.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
If you change the code to RWC it will factory reset. Delete everything and when it boots back up you will have Rogers bloat on your phone. The firmware is identical on every W8 device the only difference is the CSC.

So if you want to do it be sure you don't mind starting from scratch and from my experience it's perfectly safe. I did it on my s5 a few times.

PS. If you change it to FMC you'll get fido bloatware.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
How come Fido has the note 3 and 4 ROM. Fido doesn't carry the phone.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
That's a great question. Since we've established that every rom is the same with the exception of the csc. Maybe the csc is automatically generated regardless of whether or not the provider gets the phone. I honestly don't know.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Sammobile has every ROM too.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] inonosa:
so changing CSC is reversible？like change it back to tls after RWC? is there any negative effect of playing with the CSC?

is there a clean CSC in the default rom?

thankyou
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
Reversible, certainly . The only negative effect I could think of is losing everything and having to start from scratch. I've done it a few times. For some reason everytime I went back to stock via odin on my s5 I ended up with Bell bloat so I had to go in secret settings and chose the FMC csc.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Very true - That's where I downloaded the Rogers SM-N910W8 Stock Firmware from - But I'm guessing that the download speed from DropBox is going to be that much faster....
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
Has anyone found a way to install WhatsApp plus?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
I don't use Whatsapp - But did you look here?

http://whatsapp-plus.en.uptodown.com/android/download
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
Yes I did. I cannot install WhatsApp plus before I uninstall whatsapp. However I can't do so because whatsapp is now a system app.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Are you Rooted? If so - You could a) Use Titanium to uninstall the Whatsapp on your system b) Use a Root Explorer and delete Whatsapp from your system - In either case - Make a Nandroid before you do anything - Again if your device is Rooted.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
No i am not rooted. Thanks though
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Well - If you're ever interested in Rooting - And you would like some assistance (if needed) Let me know ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
I'm rooted, rocking whatsapp+ [emoji13] [emoji14] [emoji12]
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
Oh man I am so tempted but as a company policy I have to use knox. Also I prefer waiting for android l then decide. Cheers
[Galaxy Note 4 General] greatg:
Looks like the Gear S smart watch is launching in the US on Nov 7. Anyone heard anything about Canada? Tried an online search but no luck on a CND release date?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Wooba99:
Has anyone unlocked a Canadian note 4 and put into it a foreign (not North American) sim to see if it works. I know samsung have some sort of regional lock and I want to make sure I can use the phone in europe if I pay to have it unlocked.

Thanks..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
S voice on lock screen is not working has anyone else having this issue?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gqman69:
Yes, sim unlocking works like usual.

Our version (n910w8) does NOT have regional locking.

Even if you did, you would need to first activate the device with the correct regional sim and then unlock and you would still be good to go.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] an_xda:
Hopefully the 24th is just for Bell and not others!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gennadiy008:
Why so?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
Was wondering if anyone could clarify a few things...

I purchased the N910U (China, Australia, NZ), which will be coming in a few days. I simply assume that it won't work with Canadian LTE carriers, but when I look at the specs that Sammy gives for that model, they list:

4G FDD LTE

B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B28(700)

http://www.samsung.com/nz/consumer/mobile-phone/smartphone/smartphone/SM-N910UZWENZC

Bell canada's LTE frequencies are 700, 1700, and 2600.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas

Does this mean that LTE will work on the N910U?

Do I need a special LTE-sim, or will the one from my Note 2 (n7100) work on LTE? (does the sim even matter when it comes to LTE or not?).

Thanks in advance. Super-excited to get this phone! :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iamhacked:
Yep. 700mhz lte isn't deployed yet so I guess it wouldn't matter
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
I don't believe you need a special sim (don't quote me on that) however you most likely will not have LTE. It depends where you live as 2600 isn't widely deployed AFAIK compared to 1700. As said below we don't know when we'll see 700 roll out but hopefully soon.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dbzgod:
When it comes to LTE it gets more complicated over the previous mobile technology and even if something says its running in whatever frequency of MHz doesn't guarantee it will work. This is because there are multiple different bands that use those range of MHz frequencies.

LTE is still a very new technology so their are different standards available depending where you are in the world, the US was the first to develop 700MHz band LTE so our compatible bands are 12,13,14 & 17.

The reason for these different bands of 700MHz within North America is that based on the specific block/frequency range of what your carrier owns, it "can" use one that would work more optimally over another, however Band 17 is our 1-size-fits-all band for North America so its the normal band that is generally on most phones for us. If your phone does have bands 12,13,14 & 17 then it will just use whichever one will work best for your carrier and the region your in (see Chart)

[IMG="Canada LTE Blocks by Carrier"]http://i.imgur.com/bXS2tKy.jpg[/IMG]

Now band 28 is a different standard of 700MHz LTE that is called APT700 (Asia Pacific Telecommunity) it is a different standard that is hoped would be adopted by most of the world so that way we would have better compatibility globally rather then all this fragmentation that we are experiencing among other reasons.

More info about it here: http://www.ericsson.com/res/docs/2013/ericsson-apt700-creating-a-truly-global-band.pdf

and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APT_band_plan_in_the_700_MHz_band

Now back to your question lol, if those are in fact the supported bands then yes you will have LTE, because Bell, Rogers & Telus all run on Band4 AWS for their regular LTE service. Its a common misconception about what frequency they run on some say 1700, others say 2100 (Rogers is guilty of saying this all the time and causing confusing) but in actuality they all run Band 4 which is a dual frequency band (uses 2100MHz range for download and 1700MHz range for upload).

Now weather or not band 28 will work for our future 700 deployment is up in the air, its possible it might be compatible and work but doubtful, even if it did it would probably be problematic and have issues, but most likely it wouldn't work at all because it is a different standard that uses the opposite frequencies for upload and download then that of North America's bands 12,13,14,17.

As for sim cards you should be fine, but just ask your carrier, doesn't hurt to get a new one. I've used the same micro sim for my S3 then Note 2 and soon to be Note 4 & LTE always worked. The only separate ones that I know of are for iPhones.

Also note (pun not intended lol) that our Canadian model will come with Bands 12 & 17 which will mean better quality/compatibility 700MHz band when it gets deploy, so as much as I am tempted to import one I will be using the Canadian model, it will just be less of a headache in the long run.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
[MENTION=4625677]dbzgod[/MENTION] Someone better get you a medal! Thanks for the info.

Like I said, I just assumed LTE won't be working on this model, but if it does, BONUS! ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shollywood:
Using that model on Bell as i write this. Works well!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
LTE?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cillerbee:
Hey I was wondering where you purchased your version? I'm very skeptical of Expansys and they seem to be charging an arm and a leg for that should essentially be a $800 + tax phone with no price matching. Thanks and congrats on your purchase.

Additionally if anyone has suggestions for other trustworthy sites selling the Intentional Version i'd really appreciate it. Thanks :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
I ordered from PDAPlaza. They are in Montreal, and I should have the phone tomorrow. Expansys was not only more expensive, but they changed their storytelling several times in regards to the version they were getting in. I just didn't feel comfortable with using them this time.

My total with express shipping and tax came to $1020 for the white version (black would have been cheaper, but wasn't in stock).

It does end up being more than what carriers are selling the North American model for, but to be honest, I've got a few important things coming up this week, and would rather have the phone sooner. I also wanted the Exynos version as it performs better.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
1k for a phone that you needed asap? The note 3 is $500 and does the same things, with LTE.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shollywood:
Yes but displays as 4G on International version.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
LOL. Well... it'd be over $900 from Bell, plus I'd lose my first month of service, since I don't want a contract with them, but would need to get a month-to-month in order to buy it outright. So the difference isn't much, but the two events I've got this week will test what the Note 4 can do, and that's important to me. Hey, at least I'm not camping out in front of the Samsung Store for two weeks to get it :D

I don't want the Note 3 and would gladly pay for the extras that the Note 4 brings. The OIS, heart rate/oxygen sensor, fingerprint scanner and performance improvements are enough of a difference. I don't tend to upgrade often, so I get the best the device at the time and hope it gets me through the next few years :victory:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
You won't use the heart rate sensor or fingerprint scanner a month in. I have the S5 and everyone I know doesn't use it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
I use a software heart rate monitor app, and have for years, but you have to get your camera lens dirty to use it so a true hr monitor will be awesome. I also look forward to the fingerprint scanner as I keep my phone locked all the time and find it cumbersome to use an unlock pattern all the time. The SkipLock app is fine, but I'd rather use the more secure fingerprint unlock.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] an_xda:
You do not use your fingerprint sensor because it is bad or because you do not have a passcode for your phone? Perhaps it is poor implementation?

Having to enter an 8-character password for my corporate device, it would be a blessing to just swipe it away to use my phone.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Because it's a pain to use and takes too much time. Pass code or pattern works better.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] an_xda:
A swipe down the button is not easier than using patterns (disabled via IT policy), passcode restricted to minimum 8-characters.

I repeated this before but I will say it again, I know it is not TouchID (which I currently use on my iPhone) but is the performance really that bad re: fingerprint scanning on the S5?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
It's really hit or miss. I've tried to live with it but in the end I turned it off. It might be because I'm impatient. Maybe it's improved in the note 4,but the touch id is a lot better with iphones.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Does anyone here with a Canadian note 4 have Bluetooth choppy playback? Even if it's occasional? Are you rooted? Xposed installed? Please help me out.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zerojay:
I've been using it with a pair of Sony Bluetooth headphones without issue or skipping. Both rooted and not. Both xposed and not. No playback issues at all.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] vcallas:
I have had issues with bt dropping the connection to both my headset and pebble. I am not rooted, running straight stock ROM except using Nova launcher.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] an_xda:
Stock rom, bluetooth to car streaming is perfect.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Alright. Thanks. I have choppyness Bluetooth with music. Not sure where from. Gotta figure it out.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] coremark:
Same here. My music is choppy at times on BT. I'm rooted, Nova, and using Xposed. Thought I was the only one.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Vaanhoot:
I don't have any choppinness playing through Bluetooth, but after disconnecting with my car's Bluetooth I am unable to reconnect. I have to forget the Bluetooth connection and then repair it to my cars Bluetooth to get it to work again.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
I reached out to Rogers support and they are saying you can try hard reset and if it's not fixed they it's hardware problem.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Raegoul:
I had two i9500 S4s that did the same thing and I believe it did it every time disconnected from a Hotspot from my local cable company and reconnected to a tower for data.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Exactly. I have the same installed. Only when screen is off I get choppy playback.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] coremark:
Yup. Same too. Only when it's off.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
My S5 never had this problem with everthing mentioned installed. I hope a new update fixed BT problems.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nabobcoffee:
Does Force GPU rendering eat more battery? Also what are you guys using Dalvik or ART?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
GPU who knows. I'm using it but haven't noticed any difference. Dalvik, can't live without exposed.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Has anyone successfully flashed a ROM not for the N910W8?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] @Class:
Curious about that too but don't want to loose the LTE bands, there is a procedure of adding / changing them on Snapdragon chip sets but its complicated and this is getting too involved just to get promised functionality / reliability.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Dingchow:
I have a T mobile Rom FireKatN4 v3 installed and works. The only thing I did was install a T mobile kernel like Dealers choice tmo on stock n910w8 firmware and back up boot in TWRP. Install rom restore boot.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
What kernel did you flash? Link please!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Dingchow:
I installed Dealer Choice for tmobile
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Stockish or deported version?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Dingchow:
Deported version
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Unlocked today. Working with us tmobile and European, specifically bh telecom sim. So yeah, seems Canadians don't region lock, or it gets unlocked by first using proper region sim when bought the phone. Whatever.

Sent from my SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
Finally got my note 4 yesterday and I have to say I'm somewhat underwhelmed. It's a good phone but I kind of expected amazing. So far my biggest disappointments are the speakers and sound in general and the white on the screen. I also have a OnePlus one which I was meaning to sell but I might end up selling the note 4 after all.

The sound on the Opo is twice as loud on both its speakers and the headphones. One of my gripes with the Opo was the yellow tinge at the bottom of the screen when it's white. On the note the yellow tinge is the actual white color. Smh.

I ran a benchmark test with antutu and the Opo smokes the note 4 with its snapdragon 805. I know benchmark tests mean nothing, but I was still surprised. Anyway I hope I'm not offending anyone but why is this phone so awesome exactly? Any tips and tricks to help me improve my experience. It's only been a day so I'm sure there are great things about this phone but so far my 800$ phone doesn't quite match up to my 400$ phone. Just saying.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] an_xda:
I never understood why people read into benchmarks so much, what exactly are you doing on your phone where such things matter?

If you are looking for a budget phone, stick with the OPO - you really think any flagship phone in the market can give you ~$500 worth of features over the OPO?

An unresponsive screen, ****ty camera (low light), yellow tinted bottom was one reason I sold the OPO the same day I got it. I even preordered a case/screen protector that I threw away since I no longer had the phone...

Do not take my tone the wrong way... In short, keep the device that works for you. None of your issues were an issue for me.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Judging a phone by their speakers is kinda silly. The white on the phone? Settings > Display > screen mode and there you go.

As for benchmarks? Really? Who cares about benchmarks?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
Thank you for your reply. I was lucky to get the Opo after all of the issues you mentioned were addressed. That being said I'm keeping both devices for now because actually like the phone.

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Why is judging a phone by it speakers silly. One of my main uses for my phone is listening to music. It's not just the speakers btw it's the drivers too. Thanks for the input.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
Ultimately the decision is yours. If you want a phone with tiny speakers to listen to music... By all means, knock yourself out. There's a reason they invented wired earphones, Bluetooth speakers too.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ciscostud:
Speaker on the note 4 is fine.

Apple bought beats headphones for reason....
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
The sound is still twice as loud on wired speakers and headphones as well. I could name a hundred things the note 4 can do that the Opo can't. The fact of the matter is the sound drivers are better or just better optimized one the Opo. Instead of getting hung up on that one detail why don't you tell me all the cool things the note for CAN do. Give me a link with tips and tricks. Tell me what YOU like about the note. Come on guys.

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I have beats headphones too and the sound from the Opo is about 75% louder. But that's not the point.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sypheed:
any news on when the NJ4 update will be available for the 910w8 model? battery is subpar compared to the note 3 so far :/
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Brava27:
I was unaware of an update for NJ4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sypheed:
All Canadian variant are still on nj3 right now while nj4 has been pushed out to other market . (which is supposed to increase battery life significantly)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
The color tinge of these displays is odd I'll give you that. The dimmer I go the more warm my screen becomes. It's slight but every once in a while I really notice it and it drives me a little insane. I compared my phone to another which looked exactly the same so either they're meant to look this way or I've only seen two off looking screens. My guess is on the former. The other modes are way too warm for my tastes so I've stayed on adaptive.

My other big issue with this phone is its radio. I had heard that Samsung's radios are apparently bad but I never had issues with my S3. I'm finding I have issues in my basement that I never had with my S3 (or iPhone 4 for that matter) like calls with choppy reception.

Other then those two issues this phone is the ****. Maybe the novelty of the S-Pen will wear off but so far I will never buy another phone that doesn't include one. I use it constantly, in fact I'm typing with it right now. At least 50% of the time I spend on my phone I have the S-Pen out. The features of air command are amazing, and I've been using S-Note quite a bit to doodle (something I don't normally do).

If you're not taking advantage of the S-Pen and everything it can do for you then this is just another phablet IMO. Yeah you get a removable battery, SD card slot and a ton of Samsung features but if those don't matter to you and you want a big phone just wait for a Nexus 6.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
More importantly, when is the Android 5.0 Lollipop going to be released? Lol

And any guesses when an Android L rom or port will be available for THIS variant of the device? Yet another reason to root as us rooters will be able to get L (if wanted) much sooner then the carriers will spit it out. I say most Canadian carriers don't push it out for 6-12 months lol

Sent from my *ROOTED* Note 4 SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
From what I've heard the warm whites are due to the amoled display on the other hand the blacks are really deep.

Your right about the s-pen it is kind of awesome. There are just so many features on this phone though.:p

Thank you for sharing.

Edit: And I think you might be right about the radio. Went down to my basement and had no signal for a few seconds. Weird.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
Whoa! Mind blown!

I just stumbled upon this

http://www.zdnet.com/six-clicks-use...samsung-galaxy-note-4-s-pen-7000034787/#photo

I had no Idea the s-pen did all this. To be honest I just got the note 4 because I thought it had more value than the nexus 6. Phablet wise. I now realize that the Note 4 is in a league of it's own and despite its little quirks I'm bringing it up to daily driver status.

If anybody is unsure of what the s-pen does follow the link. :good: