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[AT&T HTC One (M8)] tommy_riley:
Not saying this isn't true (that you got a bunch of updates just now) but the camera app with eye experience update was released at least two months ago.

Are you sure you didn't just happen to login to app store after not having been there in a while and got prompted for several updates? Check the apps release date (in description in store) that will tell you when it was released/updated last.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] rizzo269:
Looks like your correct that the dates are back from November and December last year. I never got any notification to update until now but I did just flash the 4.4.3 ruu this week. My wife's phone still has 4.4.2 and she hasn't gotten any HTC app updates. Weird

Sorry for the false alarm. Got a little excited when I saw all the HTC apps looking to update.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] osiedacz:
Same situation at my house. Wife's phone is on the 4.4.2 and does not get these updates. Mine with the 4.4.3 RUU got them. I think there were some background elements your phone needs to run these updates that we didn't get in the 4.4.2 ROM.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] tommy_riley:
Well with mid-january quick approaching, no 4.4.4 AT&T version in sight and promises by HTC to start rolling out LP to carrier phones starting in Feb. It no longer makes sense to release 4.4.4 VoLTE with or without VoLTE.

If I was a wagering man, my bet would be that 4.4.4 is scrapped and all attention is now to LP 5.0.2 w/ VoLTE.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] redpoint73:
Just because it doesn't make sense, doesn't mean AT&T won't do it!

Who's to say LP won't be delayed by AT&T for months also? If that happens, are folks willing to wait that long?
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] tommy_riley:
Willing or not, 4.4.4 was released what, around June of last year? And we have yet to see it on AT&T, regardless of any 90 days promises by HTC (I'm not faulting HTC here).

So I think we're all unwilling participants in AT&T's plans.

Still though, I'd rather be on AT&T's functional network with the not-quite latest software any day compared to my previous experiences with Sprint's non-existent network :)
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Frank Wheynner:
Eye Experience ?

Hey guys I'm trying to install the android Camera 4.4.4 (update Eye experience) on my HTC One M8 (4.4.2)... But when I go in recovery mode and select Recovery, simply displays a red exclamation me no option at all. After a while my phone back to normal. What happened? I've never done anything like it, just have unlocked Bootloader and S-OFF.

Is as in the following picture: I can not options to follow the steps.

I would post the link ttorial that I'm following, but the site does not allow here because I am newbie ... but is very similar to what I saw you doing to exchange the ROM.

View attachment 3106771
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] tommy_riley:
You'd be better off posting this in the q&a section under its own thread - not in the rumor thread.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Frank Wheynner:
Sorry... :(
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] tommy_riley:
Don't be sorry. Just wanting you to be able to get the most help / exposure to help solve your issue. The issue you have will get buried in this thread is all.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Frank Wheynner:
Ok, I have done a post in another area, thanks.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] CavyS:
It says "This device is in the 2 - Integration stage of the Android Lollipop Release." By that I would think that means they've scrapped 4.4.4 and are pushing it into 5.0.1. Unless they are going to have the 4.4.4 update then a couple weeks later LP rollout. But of course this is all speculation.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] tommy_riley:
Guys, HTC has had this page available for over a year.

Look at the page closer for AT&T.

There are two sections. One for Lollipop and the other for 4.4.4 AKA Eye Experience.

-LP is in stage 2 (integration)

-4.4.4 Eye Experience is in stage 3 (certification)

However this page hasn't been updated for at least two months. I know because I regularly check it.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] emmatok:
The page has been updated for other Networks except AT&T.

Check Developer VERSION HTC One (M8)
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] tommy_riley:
That's what I meant. AT&T information for HTC One M8 has not changed. And that's probably because the accompanying development is still in the same stage it has been for this carrier/device during that time - not saying that HTC has been ignoring this page.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] emmatok:
If AT&T Continues this way, i will convert my M8 to GPE
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] redpoint73:
If you are going to go that far (s-off, unlock bootloader, etc.) you can also convert to Dev Edition, or flash a custom ROM as other options. If you have the time and are willingness to do the mods, I'd suggest doing so. No need to wait for AT&T.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] krazyace35:
If you're wanting lollipop on your m8 convert it to dev edition according to [MENTION=1862878]movers[/MENTION]i on Twitter the lollypop ota update for unlocked/developer editions should be released tonight

Edit: ota available here for dev edition

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3001648

Sent from my custom M8
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Wonders_Never_Cease:
Was already released... [MENTION=231896]dev[/MENTION] edition update...
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] krazyace35:
I received the ota a few minutes ago will soon be updating after I flash stock recovery I posted a link so anyone who wants it can get it if they have converted to dev edition and haven't received the ota

Sent from my custom M8
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Byrus:
Does it have all the features like Volte?
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Wonders_Never_Cease:
Nope it has no features for att
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] chevyjohn01:
I used this guide here

http://xdaforums.com/htc-one-m8/general/guide-update-to-official-developer-t3002003

converted to Dev Edition pretty easily. It installed 4.4.4.

Once setup is complete, it installed 5.0.1 OTA.

Took about 30 min.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] osiedacz:
LTE Speeds On Stock Dev Edition

Hey All, just wondering if anyone here can comment on their LTE download speeds when using a stock DEV edition ROM on the AT&T network?
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Wonders_Never_Cease:
Ill bet its lower than usual.. [MENTION=1139525]LTE[/MENTION] speeds
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] osiedacz:
Kind of what I was thinking. Maybe I'll give it a flash and spend a week travelling around with it to see just how different...

Getting updates quick seems great, but sacrificing performance doesn't. Makes it nice that we have your hybrid to use, kind of the best of both worlds.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] dudeluv:
I can't tell the difference, was running the stock 4.4.3 AT&T, have great LTE here in the Phoenix area, hit 40-60 quit often when i checked with speed net, and then I flashed the developer 3.28.1540.5, I got just as good speeds if not better in some spots, I took the Ota for Lolipop 4.16.1540.8 and nothing has changed. I guess try it, but curious when volte come out with AT&T,probably be faster but who knows when that will be?
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] krazyace35:
At&t sending out 4.4.4 update today

http://www.droid-life.com/2015/01/19/htc-one-m8-on-att-gets-update-with-hd-voice/

Sent from my custom M8
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] tommy_riley:
Well, so much for my theory of skipping to 5.0.1

At least we got something.

Appreciate the heads up!
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Byrus:
I just checked. No luck
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Wonders_Never_Cease:
<<<whistles and walks away mumbling told you guys it was coming, date was off because of VoLTE stuff but happy updating... :cool:
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] tommy_riley:
Checked several times this afternoon (I am running stock 4.4.3) using the manual date adjustment method and not seeing it pushed this way yet.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] rizzo269:
Just tried both of our phones here and nothing yet
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] tommy_riley:
Every article I have read officially announcing this release links back to an ATT release log from 5/14/2014 for a previous release... Have not seen any one mentioning they received the update on various sites.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] gps214:
Also , the lists of features with the new update doesn't include Eye experience .... wtf??
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] redpoint73:
I for one, never doubted you. Just sayin'.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] johnnyutah22:
So you're confirming that it has been released? What about the previous posts that no one has received the update and that the source for the articles on Android Central, Droid Life, and Android Police are from a Att release statement from May of 2014, and that the features are lacking what we have been told to expect. I'm not attempting to be disrespectful but only because I am eagerly awaiting the update. Can you speak to these inconsistencies since you have friends in the know, it may put some concerns to rest.

Also, this from the At&t release:

How to verify the update

Drag down the notification bar, and then tap > Settings .

Scroll to and tap About.

Tap Software information.

Software version: 1.58.502.1

Tap More.

The following information will be displayed:

Baseband version: 1.16.21331931. LA11G_20.31A.4145.02L

Build number: 1.58.502.1 CL335549 release-keys
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Wonders_Never_Cease:
Ill not confirm nor deny it is coming, bottomline is whenever ive stated things ive found out folks decided to rip me for it not turning out as I was told...so ya'll will have to wait and see.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] johnnyutah22:
Wait a second. I wasn't ripping anyone, nor was I asking you to reveal top secret release dates, I was just asking if you could confirm that the release was real or official. I think someone trolled the writer at Android Central who in turn inadvertently trolled all of us. You would think if there was an official update in the pipe, telling a friend wouldn't be that big a deal. Posting that you were "walking away whistling saying told ya' so" led me to believe you were confirming the release, guess not.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Wonders_Never_Cease:
Was not referring to you sir/ma'am, IF you read back in this particular thread I was told certain dates and when those were delayed users decided to act up. Nothing personal.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] DanGeorges:
There is no official release notice.

There are only a bunch of android sites "announcing" an update from AT&T that was from May 2014.

From my searches on-line, and from conversations with AT&T customer support, there isn't an update OTA for 4.4.4.

But I may be wrong...
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] CavyS:
So this whole thread now confuses the **** out of me. Was 4.4.4 released yesterday or not? [MENTION=5345690]Wonders_Never_Cease[/MENTION] seems to be implying that it was but everyone is saying it wasnt?
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Wonders_Never_Cease:
I know for a fact it was being tested, now whether or not its pushed is another story, I do not know any specific's on that matter,or whether or not it will be skipped and lollipop will be released as the update coming. As i said just have to sit and wait.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] DanGeorges:
I don't believe there was a release or is a release going out via OTA that will update the device to 4.4.4.

Various Android blogs (e.g., Phandroid) reported that the OTA was on its way starting Monday January 19.

HOWEVER - all sites that pointed to an AT&T update page pointed to an old May 2014 update to the current release of 4.4.2.

With this in mind, I believe that news of a 4.4.4 OTA is just a rumor that all the fan sites took as gospel. Nothing I've found from AT&T confirms an update to 4.4.4.

Edit: By the way, NONE of the Android blog sites referenced a valid or working AT&T press release on 4.4.4 or software update notice for an update to 4.4.4...

It's almost like someone started the rumor (I believe it was here on XDA in another General thread) and the sites just went with it.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Wonders_Never_Cease:
Seems they are pushing it out as folks have a build number 3.42.502.1, so we shall see if this is actually true or not if the ota package surfaces
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] CavyS:
Thanks for clearing that up for me. At least theres still hope for them scrapping 4.4.4 and bundling it with 5.0.1 and getting it out soon.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] DanGeorges:
Update:

Tried another avenue, just to cover my bases.

I did an on-line chat with ATT support (Melissa Griggs).

Dan Georges: I have an HTC One M8. Current software version is 1.58.502.1

Melissa Griggs: Yes, that's the latest software for your device right now. The next update would be the Lollipop updated for Android devices. That one does not yet have a set release, however it will be coming soon. It's the 5.0 update. Right now, with the 1.58.502.1 that's the current version to have.

So I believe for sure that the 4.4.4 update is just a rumor.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] johnnyutah22:
Just did some light research, here's what I found. I googled the software version 3.42.502.1 and it linked the page all the sites are citing as their source which is the 4.4.2 release from May 2014. I then clicked the "cached" tab on the link and it gave me this: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...sid=KB424491&cv=820+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

So it looks like att had it out there and then pulled it back, at least that's what it looks like to me because the sites all reported the features listed in the cached page.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] e07015:
I also saw the cached page. See info below. Must have been pulled.

Update the Software for the HTC One (M8) (0P6B120)

Update summary

AT&T released a software update for the HTC One (M8) (0P6B120) on January 19, 2015. The update is available to customers to download via Firmware Over The Air (FOTA). Wi-Fi is required.

What's changing?

Enables HD Voice

Updates Android OS to Android 4.4.4

Security enhancement

Bluetooth enhancement

Adds AMBS Cloud Messaging Integration

Adds Copy and Paste camera feature

Adds Usage Manager App

Improves battery performance

Updates AT&T Ready2Go

Updates Visual Voicemail

What to expect after the update

Although there should be no impacts to settings or data, we recommend that you back up your media files to an SD card, a PC, or using a favorite application (from the Play Store), prior to upgrading the software.

How to update

Customers will receive an alert and be prompted to download the update, or have the option to initiate the update manually. When prompted, you can postpone the update up to 3 times, and 4 hours per occurrence. After the update has been postponed for the maximum allowable time, your device will automatically download and install the update.

To initiate the update manually, drag down the notification bar, and then tap > > scroll to and tap AT&T Software update > Check for updates.

Follow the prompts.

Verifying the update

Drag down the notification bar with two fingers, and tap Settings.

Scroll and tap About.

Tap Software information.

Tap More.

The following information displays:

Android version: 4.4.4

Software number: 3.42.502.1

Baseband version: 4.0.U606061 @4 21 6A_40.34.C35006.02_F

Kernel version: 3.4.0-g931 e842 and@ ABM102 #1 SMP PREEMPT

Build number: 3.42.502.1 CL441 323 release-key

Previous updates

Date	Details

August 2014 - Build 2.23.502.3 CL368780

Updates Android OS to Android 4.4.3

AT&T Messages are now stored to the cloud

Adds copy and paste camera feature

Adds Usage Manager App

Enhancements to AT&T Ready2Go and Visual Voicemail

May 2014

Adds Extreme Power Save functionality

Improves LTE Functionality

Update Ready2Go

Bluetooth Improvements

Android version: 4.4.2

Software version: 1.58.502.1

Baseband version: 1.16.21331931. LA11G_20.31A.4145.02L

Build number: 1.58.502.1 CL335549 release-keys
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] tommy_riley:
That would be my hypothesis as well. Good sleuth work.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] DanGeorges:
So it DID exist, but - as you indicate - was pulled for some reason.

Very strange. Someone at AT$T either made a boo-boo or it's out there somewhere...
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] a_akash:
root after update

can i still root and unlock boot loader after updating to 4.4.4
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] redpoint73:
You don't need to relock the bootloader in the first place, to OTA. This means with an unlocked bootloader, you can still re-install custom recovery and do what you want.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] krazyace35:
Ota was pulled no explanation why but my guess is AT&T loves playing games with everyones head so they decide to release it, get people excited then pull it

Sent from my custom M8
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] CavyS:
From android central - Update 1/20: Looks like AT&T let some update docs slip out where they shouldn't have been, and they've since been pulled. So if you don't see an update just yet, don't be surprised.

Then from a different source - UPDATE: HTC has confirmed to us that the update was made in error, and is no longer live.

So not sure what to make of the 2 other than its been pulled. Still no answer as to whether they plan on going straight to 5.0.1 other than what DanGeorges posted earlier.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Wonders_Never_Cease:
No it will be 4.4.4 before lollipop
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] tommy_riley:
Going to rant my thoughts here for a moment.

What bothers me, not just with AT&T or HTC, but all carriers and device manufacturers, is that they could all be more forth coming with their tentative dates for software releases. I understand priorities change, security issues take precedence, and Dev/test resources can be limited so schedules cannot always be kept. I also understand that folks with older devices may get miffed if there was a general schedule for all devices/updates available and their devices show a much longer time table for release as compared to the newer devices.

However, I believe having this information readily available would help cut down on repeat questions on carrier support forums, and would give people like us (xda'ers, etc) more peace of mind on when to expect an update. If the date changes so be it.

Now, granted, HTC has done a pretty good job with giving out more info with their certification status webpage and their non carrier updates have been coming pretty fast...but their carrier updates, at least for AT&T is long overdue for 4.4.4 - with or without VoLTE.

When AT&T screwed up this past Monday and posted the update change log, then quickly pulled it, customers got no indication of why it was posted then pulled. HTC commented that it was posted in error.

All that needed to happen here was for AT&T and/or HTC to give a three sentence update/announcement on what the actual release time table best guess was/is for 4.4.4. But no, we're left in the dark. I can only imagine its really the carriers who are the ones that are holding actual release information close to their chest, and perhaps HTC is frustrated that they cannot divulge more information. But I don't know that for sure - HTC could start a public campaign leaning on carriers to give more information in this area.

Bottom line is, I go check HTC's webpage, and for the AT&T M8 the content has been stagnant for months. Nothing on this page gives me any clue when the next phase of an update may occur.

My only other sources are to email Mo at HTC because I have his email address, but that's not right either. Or, people in the know can also ask/watch his twitter posts for tidbits of info, but that's not a good way to go about it either.

So, then, what else can we do - we wait for veterans with insider knowledge on this site to tantalize us with statements like "it's coming, trust me, I can't say how I know, but its coming..." - great so that still doesn't help me very much either and certainly doesn't help the regular android users who want to keep up with technology but do not watch a particular thread on XDA.

/RantOff

Sigh...
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Wonders_Never_Cease:
This is directed [MENTION=368744]Last[/MENTION] part of the "rant" thats one reason I stopped saying anything...whole heartedly agree@ letting folks know@carriers mess up. That one wasnt HTC's fault this time@releasing false update news.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] tommy_riley:
WNC, just to be clear on my side, my rant wasn't directed at veterans of this site, or you in particular, it was more to show that its a sad state of affairs when us customers have to come on a rumor thread and rely on guys like you to feed us this info, since the carriers and OEM's fail to do it themselves.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Wonders_Never_Cease:
No worries...all good :cool:
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Byrus:
Now their saying early next week.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] tommy_riley:
Who is saying this, specifically?

---------- Post added at 09:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:08 PM ----------

Oh I see it now:

From Mo @ HTC on Twitter: [MENTION=4063001]jmchatton[/MENTION] [MENTION=223784]HTC[/MENTION] We just received TA on 4.4.4 for AT&T M8. Will include VoLTE and the HTC Eye SW experience. OTA to start early next week
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] CavyS:
I still don't have high hopes. Even though I respect Mo, I have no faith or trust in AT&T.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] tommy_riley:
Ya, we'll see it when we see it. But TA is a good sign.

Kinda ready for LP 5.0.1 now though...
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] emmatok:
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‏@moversi [MENTION=4063001]jmchatton[/MENTION] [MENTION=223784]HTC[/MENTION] We just received TA on 4.4.4 for AT&T M8. Will include VoLTE and the HTC Eye SW experience. OTA to start early next week
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] c5satellite2:
http://m.androidcentral.com/htc-eye-experience-volte-coming-att-one-m8-early-next-week
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] rizzo269:
Quick question. If we used the 4.4.3 ruu will the OTA still come through? I know when I had my S4 if I was on a leaked firmware it wouldn't and I would have to flash back to the latest carrier software to get it.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] tommy_riley:
But 4.4.3 - it wasn't leaked. It was released then pulled back.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Wonders_Never_Cease:
RUU was/is still available so wasnt totally pulled,just the OTA was. But to answer question yes you will get ota notification if on 2.23 ruu
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] rizzo269:
Great...thanks for confirming.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] bford152:
4.4.4. is rolling out to the at&t htc one m8 right now. my phone is installing the ota as i type :)
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] DanGeorges:
Did you have a custom recovery on the phone, and if so, is the only thing necessary to get the OTA is to reflash the stock recovery image?
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] bford152:
I was running a few custom roms but went back to stock last week. All i did was relock my bootloader, flash the stock recovery img, and installed the 4.4.3 ruu from att on here. checked for an update this morning, and it installed the ota with no issues in about 10 minutes despite being fairly large, 452MB.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] rizzo269:
Downloading here too........hopefully it's worth the wait, lol
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] bford152:
Not sure if you HAVE to relock the bootloader for the ota but it was suggested for installing the 4.4.3 ruu

---------- Post added at 02:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:25 PM ----------

Now, I have a few more questions. Does this mean that I can just unlock my bootloader, install a custom recovery, and while being S-ON, install the Viper, ARHD,MAximus, or CM12 roms without issues like wifi since I now have an updated bootloader and software?
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] redpoint73:
You

do NOT

have to relock the bootloader for OTA. Further, I don't personally recommend relocking the bootloader when not necessary.

Unless you are s-off, relocking the bootloader is

absolutely mandatory

(not "suggested") for RUU (RUU won't run otherwise)..
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] bford152:
Thanks for the clarifications. Can you pleeeeaaaassseeee help me with a few rom questions?
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] redpoint73:
Depends on the ROM. If you mean

after

you update to Android 4.4.4 (3.x firmware/software), than you can run ROMs that are compatible with that (3.x) firmware. Check the ROM thread, but I think that limits you to CM12 and Viper.

Maximus, ARHD, and some other ROMs have already moved on to yet another firmware/software base (4.x) so you'll still likely have broken WiFi or other issues if you try those ROMs while on the 3.x firmware.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] DanGeorges:
So...If I'm S-Off, unlocked bootloader (3.16) and rooted, I simply do the following?

Nandroid backup to SD card

boot to bootloader

install recovery image for 1.58.502.1 (my current ROM 4.4.2)

wait for OTA

Install OTA update

Reboot to bootloader

Re-install TWRP