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[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
No regrets getting the N4 - Will have to patiently wait for AOSP (although this is probably the least offensive version of TW) - Very straight forward root & TWRP - Great screen - Removable battery - External sd card - Solid construction and build quality.

Nexus 6 looks good - But battery & sd card are deal breakers for me - But AOSP out of the box.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dennka:
Guys, please confirm for TWRP for Rogers model I can use T-Mobile version, not Sprint one.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zerojay:
It does not support 64-bit.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Why don't you just use the trltecan found here:

http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
The key deciding factors that made me buy a Note 4 were the S-Pen, and the removable SD card slot. The removable battery was up there but I could have lived without it, especially with the monster batteries in either phone. Camera is most likely better on the Note 4 however I'm still waiting on a review before I declare an absolute winner. It's a tough choice depending on what you want from your phone. I use some of Samsung's software and when I eventually root I'll disable the stuff I don't use. The biggest advantages the Nexus has is Motorola quality reception, immediate updates and no bloat (depending on whether you use it).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] funkydude101:
There is ZERO point to using a 64 bit OS on a device with less than 4gb of ram.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] llsektorll:
I work at multi carrier retailer and it is true that rogers has it at $30 more. There but rogers is the best option if you upgrade your phone every year. The subsubsidy (not sure about telus) of the other carriers are higher since they all list the retail price at $800. Rogers lists the price as $750 with the extra $30 price, the subsidy is less than 750-330 = 420. When the note 4 will come your early upgrade fee will be around $220 to $175 wheas with thr competitors it will be higher.

tl:dr Lower early upgrade fee to Note 5 on Rogers than the competitors because of lower subsidy.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dennka:
thnx, I just wanted to make sure for custom ROM I will be using correct ones.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dbzgod:
Anyone else having a data icon issue?

I have a White Note 4 from Bell, last night when I rebooted my phone I noticed that the LTE and H+ no longer disappear when connected to WiFi, also for whatever reason that's causing it, when loading up the My Bell app to check on account details it no longer detects your number/account to show you information.

I try'd a number of things to see if it would fix and no go, so I decided to just factory data wipe and reset, it became fixed and was fine, but after rebooting the phone the problem came back again.

When connected to WiFi it uses it and data is not being used so that's not a problem but I'm wondering what's causing this glitch, it would appear this a firmware issue but not sure, anyone else on Bell having this problem?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] @Class:
There is an option in Wanam / Xposed for this. Did you enable it by mistake?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jose0726:
Yes. Like calendar widgets, clock etc tend to disapear when you swipe between homescreens giving them a delay to reapear
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RacerX1911:
Hey guys, I appologize becuase this question has probably been asked a million times, but just traded my Chinese Lenovo k3 note (which I loooved) for a Note 4 and was reading some of the AT&T forums and they say a root is not possible? I checked the last 10 posts couldnt find anything (of course theres 259 pages haha) I just wanted to root so I could take some of the non sense apps off this phone using titanium backup.

Also what apps are you guys finding safe to uninstall that's not making the phone unstable?

EDIT: BTW I have the Bell/telus/Rogers version

B :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Cryingmoose:
Root is possible these days. Also read the tmobile forums for the canadian model, not at&t.

You can also install twrp and flash sef's debloated rom
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RacerX1911:
haha Well I guess that was my first problem, I was even in the wrong section. I was so used to us being AT&T I didnt even look anywhere else...

So if you mind me asking, how are you guys enjoying the battery life on this device? I wont be able to use it for a few days due to me waiting for a unlock code (I was cheap and now have to wait 48 hours for a code haha) I was getting 2 days with normal use on my Lenovo and I dont think I'm going to get close due to the better screen but hopefully it lasts a full day

B :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RacerX1911:
Sooo...after waiting all this time I find out from the company that they can not unlock my note 4.... Kinda crappy since I've had this phone for 4 days and they only told me now...

What are my options? Is it possible that this telus version is unlockable (never heard this). They told me to maybe try another online unlocked or I would have more luck going into a random store and leaving it with them.

Don't know what to do any suggestions?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] vcallas:
If you contact TELUS they should be able to unlock it. I believe they are now required to by the CRTC, though it may be expensive. http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/info_sht/t15.htm
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RacerX1911:
Whaaaat I did not know this! So I called telus and they told me that they could do it but I have to be a "client" so have to sign up with a month...I'm like that's stupid I'm already paying you 50 bux

I'm going to read the fine print..the big three shafting me again..

Thanks for that post!

B :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] loxzzz:
I just flashed the latest stock Rogers rom, rooted then flashed the latest tekxodus release and have 2 issues . Samsung smart manager keeps popping up and saying it has stopped and I can't open the camera. Did I miss a step on the install?

I'm running stock kernel,should I be flashing another?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Maybe ask in the rom thread, probably get a faster answer.

Sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Note 4 or Nexus 6
[Galaxy Note 4 General] b.eslabon:
yeah! finally worked on note4 n910w8 using tar file
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Is it working okay bro?

Admittedly ive been slacking doing anything on my note 4 lol.

Looks like Im going to need to bust it out and starting updating a few things.

Sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Note 4 or Nexus 6
[Galaxy Note 4 General] b.eslabon:
yeah. no problem just use odin for updating. coz when i used img file before, my phone wont boot to recovery or system anymore.

now, there is a tar file available.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] 32dave:
I would try ebay thats where I get most of my unlock codes around $15
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bazzarooney:
You quite often need to of had the phone active on the host network before the online services can get a code, try to find a friend that has a telus sim and pop it in the phone for an hour or so. The online unlockers should then be able to get a code.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] loxzzz:
Running tekxodus 6.7 (amazing rom!) With beast mode 1.8 kernal. As documented in the beast mode thread the kernal seems to cause some lag especially with Teks rom. I am about to update Tek rom to 7.0 is their any other kernal anyone could recommend that is suitable for the Canadian note 4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mistamikel:
Try N4_AELKernel_5_1_1_MultiVariant_Ed_v8_5

I've been using this with Kyubi Note 5 ported rom and the performance is very good.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jose0726:
Where can we find this kernel? Echo creations app only has up to v6
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sefrcoko:
It's there under Note4/N910T:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] obverse1:
LCD/Digitizer Arrived

My LCD/Digitizer arrived today! Stuff from China usually arrives pretty quickly but this took more than a month so I was worried. Popped it in - works....except the charging port and the navigation buttons didn't function. I thought the board was broken but discovered the navigation button ribbon was not connected. Plugged it back in and it solved the charging issue too - the circuits must be connected somehow. I could finally test the IMEI to verify it's clean. Off to check the forums to decide how to root it and figure out what to do with it since I bought a brand new one in the meantime.

Rooted (TY Chainfire) and unlocked my Galaxy S4 mini, works great and the CIBC banking app works fine too.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
Before when I used to flash roms on my HTC One, I never looked at bootloader and modems but for Note 4 roms , it seems every rom has it's own requirement in regards to bootloaders and modems being a specific version. I know that we can flash most roms from T-Mobile subforum but what about the bootloader and modem? how do I know if I am on the right one? can my phone be bricked if I flash a rom that is not compatible with my current bootloader or modem?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] npackman:
In my experience with the Note 4, the ROM developers will recommend a baseband for their ROM, usually the latest, mostly because that is what they have developed and tested on. Sometimes it isn't required and will work fine with earlier versions. For our W8s COK3 is the latest, and you may be on that already. You can go into settings\general\about device and check your baseband. Look at the last four characters.

There shouldn't be any way to brick your phone by flashing a ROM on the wrong baseband. Worst case is the phone gets stuck booting, and you have to flash a different one or a different kernel. Make sure you do a nandroid backup before trying anything, so you can back to where you started.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sefrcoko:
Right. Just be sure to never Odin flash firmware that is not made for our N910W8. This can't be overstated! :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] imeem:
Might be unrelated but I notice that bell and roger stopped listing the Note4 on their website, guess they finally stopped selling it. Any of u planning to switch to the 2016 Samsung phones?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AwaKeN:
Hi !

I have a Bell Note 4 on 5.1.1, I want to go back to 4.4.4, i'm trying to install TWRP, i tried those versions with no luck

twrp-3.0.0-0-trltecan.img.tar

twrp-2.8.7.0-trltecan.img.tar

openrecovery-twrp-2.8.1.0-trltecan.img.tar

I tried to root it with CF-Auto-Root-trltecan-trltecan-smn910w8.tar.md5 with no luck

Each times i try to flash with Odin (versioon 3.10 or 3.09) it fail ...

I tried to flash the N910W8VLU1ANIH_N910W8OYA1ANIH_N910W8VLU1ANIH_HOME.tar.md5 directly with the same result ...

I don't know what to do, can anyone help me ?

Here is the log file:

<ID:0/005> Added!!

<ID:0/005> Odin engine v(ID:3.1005)..

<ID:0/005> File analysis..

<ID:0/005> SetupConnection..

<ID:0/005> Initialzation..

<ID:0/005> Get PIT for mapping..

<ID:0/005> Firmware update start..

<ID:0/005> SingleDownload.

<ID:0/005> recovery.img

<ID:0/005> NAND Write Start!!

<ID:0/005> RQT_CLOSE !!

<ID:0/005>

<ID:0/005> Complete(Write) operation failed.

<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)

SM-N910W8 on 5.1.1

Baseband: N910W8VLU1COI4

build number: LMY47X.N910W8_5.1.1.0035
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
I could be wrong here as ive been off the note 4 for awhile but if memory serves me you cant go back at this point. For awhile it was no problem but at some point on LP sammy made it so we could not revert back to previous firmware.

Please correct me if Im mistaken.

Sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Note 4 or Nexus 6
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AwaKeN:
I even tried with the 5.1.1 and I have the same problem, it looks like it's locked.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mystic74:
Are you sure that your computer has proper Samsung mobile drivers to be able to odin and do you go to download mode so you can odin? (Just checking) You may reinstall latest Kies to make sure you have the latest Samsung drivers.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mistamikel:
Use odin 3.07

Twrp 2.8.xx

Make sure you have installed the latest Kies first (for driver purposes)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AwaKeN:
Ok i'l try it. thanks !
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AwaKeN:
I tried with the latest KIES and 2.8.x with odin 3.07 and it still faill :(
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
You honestly need to read
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AwaKeN:
What did I miss ?

BTW I need help go do the downgrade, not someone who tell me that I need to read, all I did is to accomplish what mistamikel told me to do ...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mistamikel:
Did you run Kies at least once before going into download mode ?

Does Odin recognize your device ?

Just to be clear, this is to get twrp onto your device, correct?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Hes trying to roll back his firmware to KK....

Sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Note 4 or Nexus 6
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AwaKeN:
I just found out ... The device was on our MDM, and it has a firmware lock on it, I should have removed the lock before uninstall the mdm ... It's now working !

Thanks !
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheKnightFire:
Rogers 4.4.4 - ANJ3 to 5.1.1 - COK3?

Apologies, super noob question, last time I was here I just rooted my Note 4 (Rogers 4.4.4 - ANJ3) - so yes, I am rooted - but don't recall how I did it.

How do I "upgrade" to Rogers 5.1.1 - COK3?

First off I should ask if I should update, as I want to use it in a GEAR VR.

I've got:

the COI4 Bell firmware,

the COK3 Rogers firmware,

Odin v3.10.7,

latest CF-Auto-Root (says COK4 is O.K.),

SuperSU v2.65.

But don't understand how to put it all together.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cash2387:
Step 1: Place phone into Download Mode

Step 2: Connect Note to Odin (Most used version is 3.0.7 found here http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1168421)

Step 3: Put Firmware package into PDA slot in Odin

Step 4: hit Start

Once Device boots, Place into download mode again and flash the CF-Autoroot for our device. (Again in the PDA spot)

Not sure about the Gear VR, but it should work on 5.1.1, Heard of issues with it on 6.0, But its not like we have an ETA on that upgrade:silly:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheKnightFire:
up

Thanks Cash2387, I'll give it a go shortly, with:

Rogers COK3 firmware, Odin 3.0.7, and latest CF-Auto_Root.

Hmm... stuck at Samsung logo... nope... just took a long time... "Android is upgrading... Optimizing app 27 of 59."

... can't see apps on uSD card...

OK... the CF_Autoroot part seemed like it was going to fail... but it didn't!

... Apps installed on uSD card are back :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] b.eslabon:
guys, i know this is a bit of topic to this thread but since we are canadian users here, i want to ask you.

whats your suggestion for a good isp with stable connection even 5mbps or up? preferably unlimited internet in ontario area. no bundle just pure internet only. stablility and price are big factors for me.

thanks!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tahahawa:
Hey guys, my (launch batch) Note 4 is dead (most likely culprit: failed eMMC), but everything else is good in it. But I don't want to waste money fixing it (no service center in my area, have to ship it, my cost, no warranty) when I want to upgrade (possibly LG G5?). What do you recommend I do?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] b.eslabon:
get s7 :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Cryingmoose:
Get a Nexus 6P. Its like a slightly improved note 4 but with actual firmware updates and support
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
I'm dying to hear how it's an "improved note 4"
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Yeah, i still have my note 4 and 6P..not really see the correlation between the 2 lol.

The note 5 is an improved note 4 in some ways but in others a step backwards but definitely a closer comparo than the 6P.

Granted all 3 devices are great...which is why i bought them :D

Sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Note 4 or Nexus 6
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Cryingmoose:
Snapdragon 810 vs 805, Camera is ranked higher on dxomark 84 vs 83, little bigger battery and pixel density
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
No removable battery, no expandable storage, no ir blaster, no pen, folds in half, if you think the Google camera is better than Sammy's you're on dope, most reviewers who reviewed it are disappointed 6 months on, its a lame duck
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Cryingmoose:
Ok. You are being a bit too fanboish. All the reviews I've seen after 6 months have been positive. The camera reviews seem to say it's nore accurate, but note 4 will win in videos due to OIS. That bending thing was overblown, just like it was with Iphone 6.

Yes the note 4 has some great extra features, I actually use the UV sensor.

But if someone is in the market for a phablet, what do you recommend? Note 4 is already EOL in Canada, and delisted. Note 5 stripped out most of the great features that the note 4 had.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
I disagree. Camera is good, but not in the league of the Sammy devices yet.

Bending overblown? Put it in your back pocket and sit down then we'll talk.

The 810 processor is a heat sink. Not too impressive.

UV sensor, and heart rate sensor are gimmicky, IMO, and yes there are apps to mimic the IR blaster, but expandable memory and removable battery are real.

I don't consider the 6p a phablet, it's not in the same league as the n4 with the pen, and split screen features. Google N and it's multitasking may help, but it's not here.

Note 6 is the future, back to what made the note series outstanding
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Cryingmoose:
I disagree about the UV sensor. It's handy when you have a kid and/or are very light skinned.

Yeah, I'm hoping for much more from the note 6. But if you needed a device today, and you walked into a store, what would you leave with?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
It'd be a note 5 b4 the 6p, not even a question for me. Don't get me wrong, I had ads on Kijiji to sell my note 4 in the anticipation of buying the 6p, but it's really a lateral move, and considering the 6p is a year newer, unacceptable. I'm relieved I came to my senses.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Cryingmoose:
The n5 is $200 more than the 6p
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
I have both and they both have pluses and minuses to them....which is how I ended up with both lol.

But your right about the camera, the 6P cam is great but the note is still better.

I wish the note had the 128gb of storage my 6P does though and development is lacking for the note which honestly i kinda figured it would but was hoping I was wrong.

Sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Note 4 or Nexus 6
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
Forgot to mention the speakers much better on the 6p do you agree?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sauron0101:
Kijiji is your friend for the Note 4.

I was able to buy a Note 4 that was only a year old last September for $300. I bet that if you look, they are probably even cheaper now.

As for the Nexus 6P, the pros and cons have been discussed at length in this thread. One other con is that given the weak CAD (at time of this writing, it is below $0.75 US again), any new hardware purchases will be quite costly.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
$75 US???
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Cryingmoose:
75 cents of the U.S. dollar.

Right now a 6p is $50 at bell and a note 5 is $250. That's a significant difference. I don't know how the prices change, but neither say "sale", like some of the other offerings do
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
Got ya
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Yes definitely.

Sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Note 4 or Nexus 6

---------- Post added at 01:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:52 PM ----------

Yes but the Canadian carriers only stock the 32gb 6P which is pretty much a joke, is the $250 for the note 5 the 64gb model?

And yes i would agree that paying an extra 200 for 32gb more storage is ridiculous ( even though I would do it as 32 gb not even remotely adequate for me).

I buy all my devices outright so for me the subsidy prices arent even a factor but the note was still more outright anyway so same difference i suppose.

Sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Note 4 or Nexus 6
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
Yep, not apples to apples. Doesn't say but the 6p is the 32 GB version, absolutely aneamic.

The 6p is nowhere near the deal it should be, I want to want it, but for the same cost as the note 5, foolish
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sileniusmike:
I have a SM-N910W8 on 5.1.1 COK3 firmware. When I try to flash TWRP with Odin it says it successfully installs but when I boot to recovery I still have the stock recovery. Am I missing a step?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Are you using Odin 3.10.7 and are you flashing the img.tar file for the Galaxy Note 4 trltecan 3.0.0-0 - If your pc sees the phone - and you see a Green "Pass" - You should have TWRP installed when you boot into Recovery - Power + Volume Up + Home

Sent From My SM-N910W8 Running CMRemix 6.01
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Cryingmoose:
I've had that happen to me on the note 2. Get a different version of odin and redownload twrp.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] npackman:
You can also try flashing TWRP zip file in recovery.

See this post..

http://xdaforums.com/note-4-tmobile...1-1-note-5-t3314299/post65326386#post65326386
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Yes - IF he's already got a Custom Recovery installed - And if he wants to Flash TWRP 3.0.0-0 - The minimum version of TWRP is 2.8.4.0 to be able to Flash 3.0.0-0

TWRP also allows you to Flash img files as well as zips.

Also - TWRP 3.0.0-0 for the Canadian Note 4 SM-N910W8 trltecan was not broken as was the case initially for the Tmo SM-N910T trltetmo

Sent From My SM-N910W8 Running CMRemix 6.01
[Galaxy Note 4 General] martinomac:
I had a hard time debating which phone to get (6p or Note5) and I went with the 6p. Some reasons for me:

- timely updates from Google. Samsung is terrible and seems to forget previous models after a flagship is out.

- fast, fast, fast. Coming from Note4 which is quick and even the S7 lags when opening up some apps (read many reviews)...completely silly considering what is under the hood.

- I don't have to deal with oversaturated and heavy noise reduction imposed on each shot on Samsung devices. Even Erica Griffin reports this on S7- https://plus.google.com/+EricaGriffin/posts/ZhELWvD2h7V. Geez, Note 4 had cleaner images! I'm a photographer so I'm a little biased towards cleaner, more realistic images, not smeary ones on Samsung's poor judgement of noise reduction. yayayaya, I have multiple DSLR's for important events, but the best shots are done with what is on you daily.

- I stream everything off Google Play Music so even the 32GB is fine for me. Unless you plan on making 5 nandroid backups or upload ALL of you music to your phone, I don't see the big deal about needing more. Plus, if you really want to more space, get office 365 OneDrive for $10/month with 1TB of online storage. You can fit all the music, movies, etc you want. I have a 6GB plan so I can stream music 8hrs/day for a month and not worry about bandwidth.

Anyhow, that's my opinion. Don't mean to disrespect anyone but I'm done with Samsung (TW in particular) and so happy with Nexus development and 6p.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tkjeeper:
No disrespect taken of course, it's your opinion! All good points, updates especially. And Google has come a long way with the camera no doubt. But storage at 32 gb is pretty sad. That will fill up quickly I think you'll find, but there are otg flash drives now I guess. I think the deal breaker for me will be if Sammy locks the bootloader on the s7 or more importantly the note 6, then I'll be gone for sure
[Galaxy Note 4 General] martinomac:
yeah, locked bootloader is a punch to the nuts and time to say bye-bye.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Cryingmoose:
So do you feel that the 6P is a big upgrade over the note 4, or a side grade? The lack of OIS and being stuck with usb-c would worry me