yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Ah that's what I was thinking but got confused.. Yes only if other non W8 firmware was pre-existing when flashing.. Got it.

You know yet if roll back will be possible? Apparently many varients can so assume ours will too but would like to be certain
[Galaxy Note 4 General] enigma4321:
Thanks will try it
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Probably right and what I originally expected but someone said they saw that stated on the Rogers page..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sharp2G:
As stated on Roger's website. --> Android	Samsung Galaxy Note 4	4.4.4	5.0.2	April, 2015
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
See below

Yep I just found it too.. That's at least promising..

So zerojay, why the "it's not going to happen"?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sharp2G:
Resolved.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] microchip01:
Lollipop OTA update installing on my stock Telus N910W8 now.

Hoping it's as smooth and solid as 4.4.4 was.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ultramegax:
I'm finding it far more smooth than Kitkat. Absolutely loving it, so far. It's been torturous having it on my Nexus 7 for forever, and on my Tab S for a couple of weeks. So glad for it to be on the Note now, too.

They've fixed many of my annoyances... Things like the persistent icon for power-saving mode (though it is still in the drop down, which is okay by me). The Android Wear icon is gone, too. And multi-tasking while using power-saving mode no longer has any delay on my device. Love it. Still exploring and installing things, though. I did a full wipe and wanted to start fresh.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tb5...:
updated to lolliopop finally!

then decided to root, my signal is terrible. im using an unlocked uae device. 910c

where are the radios for north america?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Check Sammobile.com - Device SM-N910W8

You'll have to download the Update and extract the modem.bin - Then flash with Odin

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8 Running RRO Layered SlimLP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Canadoc:
My experience so far has been meh.

Email takes a while to lead the combined inbox.

App loading times are same or slower.

Don't see any improvements so far except lockscreen notifications.

However with them showing the clock goes small and weather and step clung are no longer visible.

Also noticed the heart rate sensor seems on all the time and even when not inn s health app putting my finger on it turns on the red light. . Rebooting and battery pull did not change that.

I hope battery life is better as lately mine had been bad since using android wear and google now I can't get more than 3 -4 hours of SoT with 18 hours of standby.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zerojay:
Because its stuff like that which would upset the carriers if that were to happen. It also means recert and a much longer wait of at least another 2-3 weeks. They aren't going to bother just updating one carrier for that. It would go out to all. So if it is true, it wouldn't just be for Rogers.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
When did 5.0.1 update come out for Bell? I didn't even notice that until now.

EDIT: Downloading the update now. Hopefully it downloads. If someone does can they upload it to a actually good hosting site for us? Doesn't matter which carrier actually. Any of the 5.0.1 updates will do.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Late yesterday

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8 Running RRO Layered SlimLP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] frag2:
Telus also got the Lollipop update

source: myself:D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Canadoc:
Can you guys check if the sensor for the o2 sat and pulse is active all the time. Just put your finger over it and see it the red light comes on

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It even comes on with screen locked
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zerojay:
It isn't happening for me. Do you have Google Fit installed as earlier in the thread that was talked about.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Fair enough.. We just wait and see.. Would explain explain the longer wait but I too figured all along that it would only be 5.0.1

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Unfortunately now-a-days we have so few options for modem flashing unlike in the past.. Only the W8 version and it's basically just one for all.. Except for the one per previous firmware updates..

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Bell, Telus, wind, videotron all got it yesterday
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Rogers here also.. .odined the bell build.

I factory reset in twrp before flashing that's it. All running well.

There will be a rom out in a few hours based on our LP firmware for those who dont want to stay stock!

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Hey Shaggy, do you know if flashing the firmware from SamMobile wipes all os partitions? Going to test on wife's unrooted and would prefer if data partition stayed in tact to save apps and data backup.. I would think it likely wipes it when done on Odin but if done via carrier OTA, data stays.

And second is "rollbackability" would seem many varients that got LP can rollback to 4.4.4 if wanted (via Odin of course) assume this one is OK too or no?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SeraldoBabalu:
On Fido using a Telus Note 4 and I'm currently downloading a 1 gigabyte update.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Just flashing doesn't wipe anything, as this is release build and not a test one.

If you wipe in stock recovery it will delete user data and wipe internal memory. Your choices are to either wipe in twrp, keeping internal intact and just deleting user data, or dirty flash like I did on wife's phone.

First boot you might get bunch of google services errors. Don't worry, just go to play store and do all the updates you might have for installed apps and let it settle for a bit. It does.

As for rolling back, haven't tried yet. For my phone I'll probably use axatax firmware anyways, or whoever makes one first, as I have a feeling ill go back to 4.4.4 for xposed anyways.

That would be telus update, not rogers/Fido one. Fido and Rogers did not release yet.

Note 4 ?

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You're most likely right, as the same page says that s5 has 5.02, yet unless I'm mistaken I think they got 5.01 few weeks ago.

Earlier speculation was just wishful thinking on my part.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
I'm a TWRP'er so know all about that and the wipes it does and have flashed Roms for years was curious about stock firmware via Odin..

So that's good to know.. Thanks

And yeah if it does leave data in tact then I would expect possible fc's or issues.. Had this happen many times in last with rom updates or switch to another where I wouldn't wipe data... Usually I would clear everything though.

Thanks for the info

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Oh and it appears that practically all Canadian carriers minus Rigers/Fido have their 5.0.1 LP on SamMobile now

Maybe just maybe Rogers is waiting due to 5.0.2 but won't hold my breathe
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
Just in case anyone was wondering. Factory reset, odin lollipop then odin twrp and flashed supersu 2.46. Stock rooted everything works beautifully.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
Are any of these Canadian carriers stocking the Charger and battery kit? Sammy USA sells them for $40!! That's a damn good deal for the combo, but I can't find them in Canada - at least not yet. :crying:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
There not available quite yet but you can pre-order here and free shipping https://www.gocellular.ca/?item=sm4063
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
Thanks. They don't list a shipping date at all :(

I might check out what Future Shop has once we hit the 24th, as I'm sure they'll have accessories for the Note 4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
And if Future Shop or Best Buy have it in stock with a higher just get them to price match.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
I think they can only price match with a place that has them in stock. Doesn't matter, unless the price is much higher - I've got gift cards to burn :D:D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fritolays:
Bell Note 4

Wicked just received my Bell Note 4 today. Got the delivery notice last night, and arrived at 10 this morning.

So far I like it lots, I will post system dumps, and will create pre rooted stock images this week.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] an_xda:
Woo! Grats!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zxaz:
i guess you pre-ordered online?? if yes then, it Worth to pre-order since your the one of the first to receive it....even more quickly then the bell store like i did!!!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cknewdeal:
Still waiting for Telus to post a date or price... :(
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
I was finally able to play around with a black Note 4 today. Two more days until I can hopefully pick one up. I'm number 28 out of 350+ at the Samsung store so I don't see that being a problem. I still can't decide what I'm going to choose for color. I originally wanted white, then black for a change, and after seeing black which is more grey then I could see in pictures I think I want white again ha ha.

The phone is pretty snappy, and I'm amazed to say I'll probably give touchwiz another try rather then loading up Nova right away. At least until I miss my custom gestures.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] duykhang524:
I received the note 4s at my store but can't sell them until friday...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
Are you selling phones for all carriers? I know Rogers contract pricing is $30 more then a bell or Telus but I imagine the no-term pricing is $800 across all.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] duykhang524:
Delete
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gbual:
Wind Note 4 Price

Received an email from Wind. The outright price for a Note 4 is $799 with them or as low as $299 with Windtab. Phone will be released tomorrow as well, Friday October 24th.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ToyMusha:
How many unit did your store get??
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Deliximus:
picked up a white one yesterday. It is very nice. I'm waiting to see if rooting will trip KNOX or not (n900w8 did not trip KNOX).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Mordevolt:
SM-N910C and Wind

Can somebody check if SM-N910C working with Wind Mobile please?

Or only Qualcomm version could do that?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] greatg:
So, if it didn't trip knox, can you perform an OTA or Kies update?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SaHiLzZ:
Potentially only 910T or 910W8 will work on Wind.

As long as your custom counter doesn't trip, you will get OTA.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] greatg:
Yes, that I know. That's why I'd like to find out if it really tripped or not as all others who have applied CF's root have stated that knox tripped.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Any noticeable inherent bugs yet?

Oh and important question although I likely already know the answer (no):

Did Sammy or carrier include Camera2api's in firmware? I have desperately wanted this so bad.. It's a great new feature for LP to get much better access to your phones camera hardware but many manufacturers firmware of LP is leaving this out and I'm sure Sammy will here too
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
No bugs that I can detect. Everything works great. Very impressed. Didn't think the note 4 could be better. As for the camera2 thing I can find that out for you if you tell me where to look.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sharp2G:
Flashed the Koodo Note 4 - 5.0.1 update onto my Rogers Note 4 and using a Fido CSC and all is good right now. I'm on stock, rooted and have TWRP installed and everything seems more zippy than KitKat. Now I'm just waiting on Rogers. 5.0.2 update and flash that!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tb5...:
anywhere else to download this form?

that site is slow as...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ozzyos:
I saw a youtube video. And I saw a mobile data button in the quick settings on German note 4. Anyway we can get that : / it was stock 5.0.1
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Nope - That's the only site - You can pay for the faster download - But yeah - it takes a couple of hours with the free download

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8 Running RRO Layered SlimLP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
When I flash the Telus LP5.0.1 onto wifie's unrooted phone, will it be able to get the Rogers OTA later (if it's 5.0.2) and she want to update? Really is no issue as Odin flash simple enough of course.. Just curious
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
If you change csc to rogers it will become, for all intents and purposes, a Rogers phone. So I don't see why not.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tb5...:
ok it just finished, took 3 hrs :\

i extracted modem.bin

i opened Odin3-v3.07, but 'phone' is greyed out.

i tried another version of odin, browsed modem.bin through 'phone'... stared and it failed.

any info on what i might have done wrong? running odin as admin as well.

:confused::confused:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
That's strange - I just opened Odin 3.07 on my pc - Copied the modem.bin to Phone - No issues.

Odin can flash .bin and .tar files and one more type of file..

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8 Running RRO Layered SlimLP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nooganator:
Have you tried of of the xposed modules?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
Xposed doesn't work work on samsung devices due to their slightly altered ART. As far as I know.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
You talking about Samsung running art or Samsung... Period?

Cuz Xposed running on FK rom.. You talk g about rooted stock LP?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
Yes lollipop exclusively.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Good to know though.. Sucks however.. Maybe this will change eventually?

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I really have not changed csc's in a long time.. Since long ago in early flashing and experimenting days..

Doesn't it typically require root.. And typically it wipes everything including data.. No?

Or can you do this to the flash file beforehand (Odin flash) thus not needing root or wiping everything in the process?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] golfinggino:
Currently running the vision- version of the update and it is excellent!!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
There's different ways to do it. The easiest being the phone's hidden menu. Once you choose the right csc it does wipe everything.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Thanks, thought so.. And doesn't it require root too?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Canadoc:
Unistalled fit still on ,battery life is crap too
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zerojay:
I fully wiped before install. No battery life issues here.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Use this app:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2_compatibility_test

It will tell right away.. The Note 4 HAS the *ability* but is up to the OEM's to activate it and many aren't... WTFnot .!?

I've been praying for this and literally will likely change phones to one that is smart enough to have it available (my Nexus6 will now) nut others should follow too.. It is just ridiculous that any phone that is capable would allow it..

It's like, you can have pro manual settings (if you want-especially for those more camera savvy people) but we won't let you.. We will keep it dumbed down for all and restrict your fun and useability of YOUR device for no good reason... WTF!?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
Nope. No root needed.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Cool thanks! Will I do this or can I before the flash or have to change it after the fact? The latter I assume
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
Yes.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Im an impatient sob lol...$10 later downloaded in like 3 minutes lol.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
This makes sense.. I agree. So is it "possible" that maybe Rogers didn't want to do 5.0.1 at all so they are waiting longer.. Yes likely couple more weeks for recert but all the others just went 5.0.1 anyways just to shut everyone up.. And then when (if) 5.0.2 comes via Rogers, all the carriers will then push that update too?

What do you think?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
No go.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] rrupert:
I am rockin 5.0.1!!! I'm on Rogers and flashed the Bell firmware with Odin then did a factory wipe. So far so good. I've got my geek on!!!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
no freakin' surprise...was expecting this.. what bs..with a phone like this with hardware like this and it's locked down (in this way) after new os software comes out to improve stuff like this in many new and great ways...figures...thanks Sammy..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] daniel4653:
So you guys have been able to root lollipop right? Didn't want to install.the update if there wasn't a confirmed root method. I think I read that you can Odin TWRP then flash SU in recovery to gain root access..

Sent from my SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jbkmin:
Just updated my Bell Note 4 (w8) to Lollipop. Very smooth so far. Did not expect it after reading all the negatives, but it runs very nice. Really liking ability to grant apps permission to write to external MicroSD.

I'll see how battery run goes..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
FU Rogers...everyone else in Canada updated meanwhile we wait? WTF?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] daniel4653:
Man this update is really nice. The phone is very smooth so far.

Sent from my SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] leepcharge:
Updated on Wind. Very impressed so far. Seems to be smoother, better looking, and most importantly, no more lag on multitasking!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Smoother, faster, just compare on Tapatalk or google+. It is basically what this phone should have been when released.

Colors are just ghastly, but I'll live. Missing xposed in so many little ways. I'll see if I an stay a week on lollipop, as I really don't have any issues that I couldn't deal with easily. Yes I always dirty flash. Did it for years, without any major issues, but there are always rules to follow, and you have to know how to get out of the bind, so that's not for everyone.

I do wipe cache when occasion arises, and sometime, rarely thankfully the roms are just too different, or test versions, so there is no choice but to wipe.

Who knows maybe it grows on me.

I'm still on old bootloader as I'm using vision, and/or stock system with patched kernel, so downgrade is not an issue for me. Till it gets confirmed by others that it is indeed possible to go back down from new bootloader, from someone that did full Odin flash.

Speed I definitely like. I can finally use multitasking button. Hopefully it does not get bogged down with use, the way it does on kitkat.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zxaz:
Like it so far.....some change here and there....smooth nothing to complain...however i miss the 5×5 touchwiz grid from kitkat..tried the one from kitkat but didn"t worked...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Just use a Launcher like Apex or Nova

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8 Running RRO Layered SlimLP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
That's what I wrote. Yes. It's that simple.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] daniel4653:
Thank you for the second confirmation. Happy flashing. ?

Sent from my SM-N910W8
[Galaxy Note 4 General] andruyd:
Hi, where did you get the lollipop img? I installed twrp 2.8.1.0 using odin 3.9 but it did not work. When I go to recovery it goes does an update and fails and ends up in Android recovery. Would Kies work in place of Odin'ing the lollipop firmware?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Zer0_:
Hey guys, if I was to odin to the stock lollipop version, would CF-Auto-Root root my device afterwards?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Cryingmoose:
Cf auto root worked for me
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Flash another W8!they are all the same and you don't need root, etc.

Rogers taking longer because they are skipping 5.0.1 to go right to 5.0.2
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Canadoc:
So will we be able to flash 5.0.2 over this if we are on videotron once the rogers update is released

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Ps un installing Google fit. Wiping cache and rebooting seems to have fixed a few things. Also seems exchange services was a big battery drain. I removed all my email and exchange accounts and am now using type mail. Battery seems much better than yesterday so far
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Figured it might but great to see confirmation!

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You actually stay on stock TW launcher? I guess there are a few of you out there! Use 3rd party like Apex, Nova, etc.. Just like Shaggy said. v

^^^

Yep Nova kicks ass! Couldn't live without it
[Galaxy Note 4 General] andruyd:
Can someone please share N910W8VLU1BOC4 firmware for Bell on torrent/dropbox/google drive?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Its avail on sammobile dude ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zerojay:
He doesn't want to wait 3 hours.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] andruyd:
Yea, got it now from Sammobile. Thanks guys.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] salvador3:
Lollipop battery life

For all those who updated to Lollipop....how's the battery life?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
Did you find what you were looking for? I wasn't sure what you meant.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zerojay:
I couldn't be happier right now. Just one hour of screen time on this. http://imgur.com/elVj9a9
[Galaxy Note 4 General] leepcharge:
Battery is much better in my case.

It was good on KitKat (around 5 hours SOT); but now on lollipop, I'm at 4:30 hours SOT with still 50% battery remaining.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sefrcoko:
Can anyone confirm if you have been able to restore a 4.4.4 backup after installing the official 5.0.1 LP on the N910W8? If so, is it a simple restore through TWRP, or do you also need to flash a kitkat kernel (or even the AOA1 base through Odin, re-root, etc)?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zerojay:
Edit: And I haven't rooted or installed Amplify and Greenify yet.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Either did I...paid $10 canadian and upgraded then it took like 3 minutes lol.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Well Gee Wiz Force - Why didn't you upload it to Torrent, Dropbox or Drive...... LOL ?

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8 Running RRO Layered SlimLP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Lol...I did for a few...pm only ;)

"just say no to spoon feeding"
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dbzgod:
You guys could have always just used Samsung's kies software to get the update and saved the full firmware image from the temp directory while it updates your phone.

Downloaded at full speed for me at 50Mbit/s no slow dls from SamMobile or paying for it lol.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Kies is notoriously unreliable and i dont like it lol.

"just say no to spoon feeding"
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
^^^ I hear dat! Forget Kies..damn I hate that software.. Only direct drivers for my Sammy phones.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] andruyd:
I'm good now. I got mine rooted. I used chainfires.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
Whenever I turn wake up my phone I see a searching for GPS message. Is that normal?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] kidhertz:
*delete please
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pappcam:
Do you have a weather widget or something that's set to refresh on unlock?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
Not that I know but I'll check. Thanks.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] equlizer:
I noticed the built in flashlight doesnt work anymore. Is there a fix for that?

EDIT: nvm, there is a torch widget already there