yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Questions and Answers] Mizoah24:
Well...this all escalated quickly. [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] I envy your abilities. I'm from Washington myself and miss the green everyday (the deserts of California are...well, not as nice). Anyway, thanks for entertaining us and sorry that things vomited everywhere.

For everyone else, regardless of root this is a good phone. Thank God it has at least 11 gb of internal usable storage so it's not like we'll die without root. There are a lot of customizations we can do just from the play store and I've had a lot of fun with that so I suggest checking out things like Nova Launcher (or Smart Launcher 2 Pro), swiftkey, the many different browsers out there, Next Cam, ZUI Locker, color notifications, etc. Also, is there a way we can email cyranogenmod and request for the ZMAX to be added? I've heard real good things about them.
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Why when jcase advised when....

Why when jcase advised that he was going to release, right after I left, people went and trolled and said he wasn't? Seriously, please read the interactions people and get to work......
[General Questions and Answers] valve timing:
Well hey at least you tried
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Instead of being negative about it, why don't you get ahold of a developer, or see what you can do and actually help? Seriously, the negativity of people like you is horrible. Either work together and help, or leave.....

We started to have a good thing going here again, and people like you seem hell bent on destroying it....

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I'm just going to say it.....

No More Negativity On This Thread...... Either Help Or Leave.

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Thank you, so a surface root then,

Ok, now we need to figure out how to get the actual Fastboot of the phone itself. Any ideas? I keep thinking that somehow the LAF on this phone needs to be cleared.
[General Questions and Answers] StonerSteve420:
Hopefully you don't get mad and leave. At least someone is trying to get the ball rolling
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Thank you StonerSteve

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Not too far back, someone advised me that there was a ZTE tool similar to Odin that could be used with the FTM of the phone. Maybe, if we can get ahold of that tool, we can use that to clear the LAF and allow fastboot so we can unlock the bootloader.

It's a stretch I know, but, it might work.

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I so wish I had this device myself......

Is there anyone out there willing to try a few things? (caution, what I'm about to suggest may brick your device).

There is this fastboot and ADB tool, I'll try and find it, that might be able to be used to clear the LAF while the phone is booted...... However, I have no idea what affect clearing the LAF will have on the phone, however, with that surface root applied, at least ADB can get access to the partition.

So, [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION], with this collaboration, we can probably root this device with an even better method and get the bootloader unlocked, so, what are your thoughts?
[General Questions and Answers] StonerSteve420:
There is a tool for updating the phone. Is this what you mean? You connect the phone to the computer it connects to the phone and you can upgrade or downgrade the software. Could this program be modified to help us out?
[General Questions and Answers] jcase:
I'm not seeing anything there, but im eager to see what you can produce.

FYI no such thing as surface root, or temproot or any of this. There is just root. You can have root in a variety of selinux contexts (typically you want it in init or kernel context). You can have root through a su binary installed on system, or through another mechanism. All in all, root is root.
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Unfortunately....

Unfortunately, for all this, we may need some "sacrificial lambs" to get it done. We also need someone willing to go in and a get dirty with it (minds out of the gutter please).

Here's the important thing to remember: There is a tool out there to restore the device, and, probably, the worst you can do hopefully is just soft-brick it.
[General Questions and Answers] StonerSteve420:
Anytime I see you reply I get so thankful to the root gods. I hope you are feeling much better sir!!
[General Questions and Answers] Vyrus69:
First and foremost starflare I've been the one preaching patience the most since the beginning.

I created the change.org petition that got kernel source released.

I contacted shabbypenguin who stated ZTE phones are next to impossible to root.

I trolled emailed, facebooked, tweeted, live chatted zte to the point they won't respond to me anymore.

The exploit was CUSTOM created for this phone and he WILL NOT release it unfortunately he's told us.

So don't you dare speak to me about being negative or shouldn't be on this thread. Know who you are speaking to before thinking I'm some child on here trolling.

I'm still all for trying to get root for this phone and I will not stop harassing ZTE until we get bootloader unlock.
[General Questions and Answers] StonerSteve420:
I had a ZTE Warp and ZTE Warp Sequent both had root easily. Lots of ROMS The warp sequent is even Cyanogenmod supported
[General Questions and Answers] Vyrus69:
Yea some do the older phones were rootable easier but lately they've made it harder.
[General Questions and Answers] StonerSteve420:
I've heard framaroot works on a lot of ZTE phones I'm nervous to try it lol
[General Questions and Answers] Vyrus69:
Most of the known root methods have been tried.
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Yes, but, without an unlocked bootloader, we don't have a good way to get other things loaded onto the device, like a custom recovery. I mean, there are ways, LG has proven that to us. I think we all should remember the L9, however, there was a way around that thing's crazy locked bootloader later as well.

Also, with an unlocked bootloader, we can actually look into an actual init, or kernel context root.

Now it's great that you have an SU type root that will help. With that, we can possibly use that to unlock the bootloader.

That's what we meant by the difference between temp root and actual root, even though, they are pretty much the same thing, with the other type, even if SuperSu get's deleted or removed, your device may still be detected as rooted, where as with a surface or temp root, it will not be.
[General Questions and Answers] jcase:
I've not clarified for anyone exactly what I have, its not how i work. Generally I don't mention having root until I've decided what to do with it, let alone specifics of it.

I'm sorry you are not correct on the specifics of what root is, and the differences in how you gain root.
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Yes, exactly, thank you.
[General Questions and Answers] Vyrus69:
Just add it to your sunshine root app and charge for it. Then you can get something in return for dealing with some of these idiots here :D
[General Questions and Answers] jcase:
Very possible, but the time required to do that is great.
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Well then, please clarify and enlighten us.

I've also asked you a few times if you've unlocked the bootloader?
[General Questions and Answers] Vyrus69:
Maybe a minimum donation of 5 to 10 bucks to get whatever method you might have? I want you to profit for your work and headaches.
[General Questions and Answers] jcase:
and I've ignored it. I dont enjoy conversing with you, and have no reason to share details with you. I've already said if you got me a functioning recovery, I would make a nandroid. Other than that, you have no info coming from me.
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Ok, here's what we're trying to do here.....

We're trying to get something deeper going than an app, however, the app can be used to achieve that. In otherwords, complete root without an app, except of course, SuperSU must be there.

And, please, do not be calling people idiots. Seriously.

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You may not enjoy conversing with me, but, I'm the only one here collaborating people with you to get the work done and get this phone officially and fully root along with an unlocked bootloader. Now, I was able to get people wiling to work with you, and you need to be willing to communicate and work with them.
[General Questions and Answers] StonerSteve420:
I'm willing to pay. Begging for root since its damn near impossible than saying I won't pay for it would be stupid. You can't have both lol
[General Questions and Answers] jcase:
The app he speaks of is an app I sell that unlocks the bootloader and gains root on roughly 150 variants of HTC and Motorola phones.

I've not collaborated with anyone in this thread on this phone (there are a couple I've worked with on past ZTEs, but not this one), nor received such offers beyond people wanting to test things for me, which isn't something I do unless I don't have the phone here.
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Now, back to business.....

Now, moving on.....

We need to get that bootloader unlocked one way or another.......

Also, [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION], I'm not sure if you've ever had an LG L9, but, your app sounds similar to the first way that device was ever rooted. If there are other's here that remember, can you please explain it to him better than I can?
[General Questions and Answers] jcase:
I rooted the LG L9, and that whole generation of LG (and the next couple generations). SunShine is far from similar to anything that rooted that phone. SunShine is an application that gains root, unlocks the bootloader, and uninstalls itself.
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Ok, thank you. Ok, well, in order to even give you what you want, you're going to have to let some test what you have and then use it back and forth to get a standardized method of rooting this device achieved.

Um, now, this app, have you used it on your device, and, did it unlock the bootloader on it? If not, then, we may all have to find a way to do it or around it.

Also, just curious, why does the app delete itself?
[General Questions and Answers] jcase:
No, I need nothing from you or anyone. I'm not looking for help.

Half your comments regarding root are exceedingly confusing and make no sense to me.
[General Questions and Answers] totlth:
If that's the case,

Why do you keep posting in here?
[General Questions and Answers] Ranger1189:
Starflare5. Please just leave jcase alone. You seem to just be an annoyance. Most would agree. Thanks.
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Um, you seem to understand me just fine.....

You're not from the US, are you? It's ok, we're not really looking to just help you. We're looking for you to help others including yourself.

Now, have you reprogrammed or added to this app for the ZMAX and used it to root and unlock the bootloader, or did you only achieve root?

...and why does it delete itself?

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You're not helping or contributing, thank you.
[General Questions and Answers] jcase:
I am from the US. No what im saying is the terms, the context you are using, and your general understanding of what root is and how it works is wrong.

I have no need to help myself here, as I'm done for now. My goal was reached.

No, I've not added ZTE to this app, the bring up time for an OEM is in the "months of work" range. I'm currently bringing it up for HTC's latest builds, part of the reason im short on time.

It deletes itself because why not? After it is done, it doesnt need to exist any longer.
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
General question....

Just how evil is the bootloader on the ZMAX Z970? Has anyone else tried to figure out a work around or how to get to it?
[General Questions and Answers] Ranger1189:
At least I'm not a hindrance, as you seem to be.
[General Questions and Answers] Vyrus69:
Dont start with that again. Let him be he is speaking to him specifically not in general.

Bro!!! Let it go! He's not going to tell you! How difficult or dense are you? You seen to be the type of person that if a woman says they don't wanna sleep with you, you keep asking a different way. You're being the little that keeps going "but whyyyyy???"

It deletes itself because once it does what its meant to do there is no need for it to be on your phone.

He does not have to explain himself to you or anyone else.

Now back to topic..He has a method and we should all be willing to compensate him for that. I would be willing to pay $20 for root. Who else is with me? I know we have some people who pledged in the bounty thread too.
[General Questions and Answers] totlth:
If the woman keeps coming back giving you the illusion that there is a chance, then any GUY is gonna keep trying.
[General Questions and Answers] Vyrus69:
Treat a woman with respect and you'll get so much farther then you could ever imagine.

But jcase is not a woman..he's someone who dedicates time and resources to doing this.
[General Questions and Answers] totlth:
I'm not coming down on anyone. Just calling it like I see it. A tease is a tease with or without respect. He's not a woman, but right now he's acting like a premadonna. " I got what y'all want. But I got butt hurt by a few peoples comments so y'all can't have it. But I'll keep coming around to show you what you can't have."

I simply asked why he was doing that. Just in simpler terms.
[General Questions and Answers] Vyrus69:
Maybe he wants to see if those of us who are respectable and patient would be willing to share with those and calling names like butt hurt and etc... You're not helping
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Ok, well, that's interesting, and, thank you for answering. So basically, you achieved root on the ZMAX by other means.

Unfortunately, this may take us all back to the drawing board. The reason is that even though you have root, there is still the issue of the locked bootloader which also leads to the issue of creating a recovery.
[General Questions and Answers] totlth:
You seem to take my comments as insults. Let me explain that butt hurt just means upset. Focus on the context of my comments not just one word or phrase. I haven't been disrespectful in the least. Anytime I see someone saying no but acting the opposite, my brain poses the question why?
[General Questions and Answers] nobreak1970:
This is like watching a great TV show to the point where you love it but you know in your heart it's run its course.

Sent from my HUAWEI Y536A1

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Wife saw his pic... she thinks he is cute. =-O

I digress.

Sent from my HUAWEI Y536A1
[General Questions and Answers] tak_flow:
How do you turnoff connection vibration on the zmax?
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
*Bangs Head Against Wall*

Ok, stop with the drama, because now we know what we're working with here. [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION], you have achieved root, but, it may not help as much as we had hoped, but, thank you for your input thus far.

I'm open to suggestions from others.....

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I'm one of the few people attempting to get collaboration, where as you're hell bent on negativity. Now either help or go.
[General Questions and Answers] tak_flow:
can you help me starflare5? how do i turn off connection vibration? my phone zmax vibrates once when it connects and disconnects..
[General Questions and Answers] Ranger1189:
You're nothing short of delusional.
[General Questions and Answers] smilesintears77:
+1
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Tak, as in all Android devices, that's in settings> sounds> alerts and notifications. Toward the bottom, there should be a selection for "Play sound when plugged into charger" and a check box for vibration as well. Uncheck that box.

I don't have this device in front of me right now, but, I also understand your pain as even the manual does not tell you how to do it.

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Is there a way to block you, or do I need to go get ahold of a moderator?

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Hey people, I have to go take care of some things...... I will comeback. Please, do not let Trolls like Ranger1189 discourage you.

Thank you all who have been helping... You've been amazing.

Starflare5.
[General Questions and Answers] smilesintears77:
unfortunately there is no such menu under sound setting.. any others with this phone having same issues?
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Before I go....

This is exactly one of the reasons why we need root, and unlocked bootloader, and a custom rom.
[General Questions and Answers] smilesintears77:
I have called zte usa tech support and they have no solution regarding this vibration bug. They said just use the phone as is or return it to metropcs.

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maybe my phone is a defect?
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
So basically, they're leaving it completely up to outside developers (like here) to fix these bugs..... UGH!

Ok people, now we hav an even bigger reason to crack this thing. ZTE themselves does not appear to want to help or even figure out their own issues with this device.
[General Questions and Answers] Ranger1189:
Has anyone else here tried to google "Starflare5"?
[General Questions and Answers] totlth:
Haha! Touché!
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Ok, I'm only going to do this once and break my professional demeanor.....

Stop trolling dumbass and leave the thread.
[General Questions and Answers] nobreak1970:
I hate to jump in here but Perhaps a neutral post can help. [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] got root here. He said he is done with the phone.

Some seem to keep trying to get [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] to "give up the secret"

He said no. He has reasons. It is what it is. Its over.

For both sides. (I include jcase in this because what's done is done even for him. Time to go help get sunshine updated.)

A couple of posts above this one someone posted a legit question. 1 Person acknowledged it.

For all that is holy someone make a new thread for people that want real help with this device. Poor guy just stumbled into a hornets nest!!!

Sent from my HUAWEI Y536A1
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
...and you can stop trolling as well....

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Here's the thing, he achieved root, but, not an unlocked bootloader, and is asking for a custom recovery..... Now, I know that there are ways around a locked bootloader, but, nothing that can really help us here..... Also, as just pointed out, ZTE is not really willing to help it's customer's even and is basically leaving it up to outside development.

But, yes, I am actually all for a completely new thread and I second you on that one.
[General Questions and Answers] totlth:
I surf the internet for info and entertainment. Sometimes when looking for info I find entertainment. As far as I know I am using the internet the way it was intended. When I post I do so with thick skin. Meaning: I don't take personal every comment made. You should try this method.

Basically I'm saying (in my best neener-neener voice) " if I'm a troll, you're a troll".
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
We need a new thread on this device.....

We need a new thread on this device..... who should start it?
[General Questions and Answers] nobreak1970:
I don't recall him ever directly asking for help regarding that. He eluded to it only to make his point.

That's how i read it.

Sent from my HUAWEI Y536A1
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
He actually did answer in an indirect way.... He stated that he has not added the ZTE to the sunshine app, which roots and unlocks the bootloader, however, stated that he had achieved root and that unlocking the bootloader would take "months of development" which he does not have time for.
[General Questions and Answers] totlth:
I'm following this thread because I have this device. I had a zte avid a while back. For that device I built cwm and cm. I would like to do that for this device. It gives me something to do. I have never worked on root but have been looking into it and have tried a few things to no avail. I'm just putting it out there so if anyone finds a method that they don't wanna try, send it over and I'll give it a go.
[General Questions and Answers] nobreak1970:
We shall agree to disagree. :)

Sent from my HUAWEI Y536A1
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Basically, I hope jcase understood, that if he indeed wants a custom recovery, the bootloader must be unlocked first. There can be a custom recovery created around a locked bootloader, but, that can get rather tedious.
[General Questions and Answers] nobreak1970:
Believe me he understands. :)

Sent from my HUAWEI Y536A1
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Also....

This is also the reason we need someone willing to erase their LAF and can do it safely to allow fastboot to load to unlock the bootloader without bricking their device.

[MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION], have you tried anything like this yet with your own device? This way we can get a custom recovery for you.

Please understand, that if you want a custom recovery, your bootloader must be unlocked.
[General Questions and Answers] jcase:
No, I said adding another OEM to SunShine would be months of development, please dont put words into my mouth
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Another general question......

Did anyone make unlocking the bootloader a priority on this device first, and, if so, what did you discover?

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Thank you, ok, then ugh......... ok.... we create a new thread, figure out if there is a way to unlock the bootloader before root, or, figure out how to put a custom recovery in with a locked bootloader possibly after root.
[General Questions and Answers] jcase:
Dude, this is a ZTE phone, not an LG phone. There is no "LAF" partition. (For those that dont know, LAF is an additional ramdisk/kernel used in LG devices, wiping it on LG devices will expose fastboot.) Completely wrong OEM.

No, bootladaer doesnt have to be unlocked to boot a custom recovery, just has to be to flash. Multiple ways have been found to boot one without unlocking the bootloader. See CVE-2014-4325 that I found in the OnePlus as an example.

LAF is a proprietary LG feature, it does not exist on ZTE devices.
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
Ok, well, then does it have a fastboot, or is it covering it up?

And, since he jcase states that the bootloader is unlocked, can someone look into building a clockworkmod based recovery for him and all of us.
[General Questions and Answers] smilesintears77:
Greetings from Atlanta. Lets keep it cool. im just glad it's spring break. grab a yuengling and relax ???
[General Questions and Answers] Starflare5:
I gotta go.....

Ok, I have to run.. please, work together people.
[General Questions and Answers] jcase:
Seriously stop putting words into my mouth.
[General Questions and Answers] TecheTag:
No the Zmax no fastboot but has some FTM mode and adb doesnt recognize the device in FTM mode... you cant push any files to the phone

and you cant remount the system...I was looking into modifying the default.prop..or do you have to already have root to do that .. im new at this trying to gain root thing and i really dont know if im going in the right direction...:confused: