yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Yeah do I remember that.. My S3 is still likely my all time fav for performance (at launch), longevity, features and *development". Was so much great work for a long time on that phone. It was easily my longest standing daily phone (by far) in the past 8+ years.

And yes, being able to swap modems was great. I found one for my daily area that was a huge improvement on phone signal and data throughput and had a couple others for when I travelled that were nice improvements over stock.

Too bad those days are gone but at least I can say that my phones since then have done well and haven't been in dire need of a new modem.

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I spoke to one of my formers coworkers at Rogers who's still there in high position and he says "we heard of the Bell desired launch date and we would like to match that but are likely to be just a bit longer. Hopefully only a few days to a week but nothing is solid yet"

See what happens but either way, it *should* be sometime in April.

The unfortunate thing is no one in Canada is launching with 5.1. Will only be 5.0.1 at best which is not good and WILL have the typical known issues of Androids initial LP, that have since been addressed in 5.1.

Oh well..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
On the bright side as long as at least one of the Providers releases it we should be able to use it regardless as long as we can get the odin file. The CSC are built in for all carriers. Basically all of our firmware for the W8 are really Bell ones.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] HockeyNinja:
Bell confirmed today that the release will be early April. yay!

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/03/30/galaxy-note-4-lollipop-release-confirmed/
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Yep I forgot to add that part. Any Canadian W8 firmware can be flashed.. This would only apply to the others who don't root and wait for carrier OTA's
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
In theory you could change your CSC and force the update without having to root using the built in phone menu.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
For those interested, Rogers now shows April 2014 for Lollipop updates for Note 3 as well as Note 4.

http://communityforums.rogers.com/html/assets/OSUpgrade.html
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Most likely no volte, as they announced only LG vigor compatibility, today.

Only year and a half since original announcement October 2013, by big 3.

And only a distant dream for them to extend it to their stepchild Fido, seing that they push it to their share everything accounts with prejudice.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
Huh?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] faroreefer:
Not sure if anyone is willing to "dumb" this down for me...Im really overwhelmed with all this. Just got my note 4 after being with M7 since its release and flashing seemed so much easier! lol. I'm way out of my league now. I did flash Dynamic Kat 4.1 nk4 and KT kernel and it seems to be running great. But looking to try out FireKatN4 Deodex V11X/V5 TW Ank4/Anj7 Base: Extreme Speed. I read through the first 2 posts and now im super lost. What do i need to do to get to the lastest version of that rom?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Its simple

You need to odin your latest stock firmware, root and twrp.

Then full wipe and install FK either Tmo version or CAN.

sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] faroreefer:
It may be simple for you but for me it is not, hence the request for help... So I am rooted and have twrp and if by "odin you latest stock firmware" you mean A0A1, then I'm on it. So I just need to flash v11? And no Kernel needed like I did with D kat?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
That's correct and don't forget to wipe beforehand.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Firekat V11 is awesome. Best note4 rom imo.. But why are you *here* asking this?

Go to the thread. A great community with dozens of posts daily and the Dev (mega) is there all the time and answers immediately

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It seems confusing but it's not too bad and he's the only one I've found out there that does a Tmo AND W8 Canadian variant flashable

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Oh and V11 uses AO1 which would be your latest update
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
Rogers has just officially announced the Note 4 will be getting 5.0.2 in April 2015.

http://goo.gl/4zZgFQ
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
Welcome to yesterday...see my post about 5 posts back...lol.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Which part are you confused with?

I was only commenting that in our firmware update, we're most likely not getting volte upgrade (yesterday's news, originally announced Oct 2013).

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mikoal:
Just wondering why you feel FK is good? I've downloaded it, and isn't this rom pretty much stock? I mean you can debloat with tibu or other software to achieve what this rom does cant you?

Dont get me wrong, im using it and liking it.....but i was wondering what was really done to it?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
Lol I feel silly.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shaggyskunk:
Try Flashing this Rom - It's nothing like Stock TW!

I was running until the AOSP Roms became available - Awesome Dev - Awesome TW based Rom!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=56250666

"Bye bye Sweet Canadian Moonshine"

Sent from my SM-N910W8 Running RRO Layered SlimLP
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Yes very true.. Stockish. Not the best for being drastically altered. We don't have much out yet for us with the W8..

But for stability, speed, battery life, etc it is very good

But if you want AOSP or something fancier then gonna need to test others but keep in mind, they all have some bugs and issues.. Usually one or more that ruins it for me

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This is pretty good too if you want it to look different but got better performance and battery life out of FK but this is good too

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Keep in mind *mikoal* if you go DynamicKat it is only a Tmo rom so you HAVE to flash a separate kernel for our W8..which is easy but if not, won't work
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TheIgster:
All of it. Sorry, didn't make any sense. But hey, maybe that's just me.

What's a "volte" and why are you referencing an LG Vigor?

And year and a half since what original announcement in October 2013?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ultramegax:
I couldn't make heads or tails out of Idan73's post, either. So no, you're not the only one. Haha.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
Best battery life of all tw roms that's why.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mikoal:
Probably best in all Roms right? I haven't heard aosp being better?

But either way can this not be achieve through debloat and freeze instead of going through firekat?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
I guess so but imagine what you can achieve through debloat and freezing fk? It's already got a head start. It's true that fk doesn't have a the customization options as others but we got xposed an wanam. The other thing about Fk is that everything works, go look at the thread bro, it's all about sharing wallpapers and singing kumbaya, no issues or logcats. Everything jut works.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mikoal:
I'm using it and it's been good. I've noticed a slight improvement in battery. Would get 5-6 sot. I think on stock with debloat and freeze it was about the same.

I've xposed and wanam and gravityboxed. Everything is good here.

But was curious as to what major changes were made. I mean someone can erase Rogers app, make a Rom and it is still a "head start" wouldn't it?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
OK. I'll talk slowly. ?

Volte - voice over lte

Announced yesterday by Rogers. Launched by all American networks in 2014 and before that on some European and Asian networks.

. Originally announced by Canadian big three providers in October 2013, to be launched in 2014.

I'm not gonna explain in detail all the benefits of volte (you have google for that) , but let me just say, your connection won't drop to HSPA every time you make a phone call. So yes, it's pretty big deal to some.

Also details of Rogers announcement are on the net.

Why mention vigor?

That is what Rogers is launching with as compatible handset. Mid range phone, although all flagships from past few years, in fact most lte phones are theoretically able to use volte. They do need firmware update, for it to be enabled in the software.

Kinda like our phone been perfectly able to do carrier aggregation on at least one lte band pair (were already using carrier aggregation on hspa for the past few years) , yet are artificially locked out of it (luckily this is easily fixed from service menu).

Why does volte relate to note 4 Canadian thread, right now? Cause we haven't gotten the 5.02.update yet, and when we do, most likely volte will still noy be enabled for our phone. Maybe it will come in later firmware update, maybe never. That's the part that sucks.

Get it now?

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ultramegax:
There is zero reason for you to be patronizing. I know full well what VoLTE is. It's your use of acronyms that is confusing. Especially when you don't capitalize them properly. It is VoLTE, not Volte.

That aside, I don't know the specifics of the Canadian roll out, or how VoLTE compares to the little mentioned 'HD Voice', but many phones already have and support that. You just need to be on a carrier that supports it, phoning to another person who supports it (usually restricted to individuals on the same carrier in its current form - or that's how the carrier I work for does it, at least). And HD Voice already drastically improves audio quality, so I'm not certain the specifics, or indeed, the 'advantage' of VoLTE. Unless it's just a different name for the same thing.

EDIT: I just looked it up, and HD Voice and VoLTE are very similar. The main advantage VoLTE confers is cross-carrier compatibility.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Did not mean to sound patronizing, just explaining in more detail. Was it the smily face?

It was your choice to put yourself with same guy that asked the question.

And please spare me the grammar Nazi bs. VoLTE has the same meaning as volte for those of us too lazy to correct the autocorrect, just to please your sensibilities.

As for the advantages and implications, other than similarity between hd voice and volte, regarding voice quality, are surely more numerous. One of them was in my explanation above.

Whatever else I might say, might be misconstrued, and get us deeper and deeper into argument that does not have to be.

✌

Note 4 ?

Edit: I guess, I should have proofread my post before hitting the button, and see how my post might be antagonizing. Apologies. The tone, beginning and end, was uncalled for, but wasn't meant as such.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ultramegax:
It's okay. And I'm only trying to point out how it can confuse people. You know what you mean because you wrote it. When you wrote "Volte" I actually thought that you might have meant "Volta" but that it got autocorrected, or something. And I was getting very confused as to why there was a thought we would not be getting a core feature of Lollipop - "Project Volta". Haha. It's not about being a grammar Nazi. I really could not care any less about the quality of people's grammar as long as the grammar is clear enough that it gets the message they're intending across. Just take a deep breath, bro. Seriously. There's no need to be throwing around names ("grammar Nazi"). I'm not upset. Everything's cool. Haha.

Otherwise, there really is no argument that I'm aware of. I was just confused as to what you were referring to. I think it's fair to think that people might be confused from time to time if you don't take care with your writing (and there's nothing wrong with writing quickly if you don't have the time to always triple check everything you post. There's just no need to fly straight to ten when someone doesn't understand. Because that isn't productive).

Anyways, I understand the rest of your post, and I hope it does come soon, too. I haven't heard any news about the roll-out coming in the near future for the carrier I work for, though (which isn't Rogers). So yeah, it could be quite some time.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
There is a big difference between HD Voice and VoLTE and namely and it's not about the call quality, etc.. They both can be great and technically you could incorporate HD Voice on VoLTE if wanted and in a way they do... The *key* factor (as Idan said) is the band over which it happens. I've been wanting this for years and long ago I always wondered why when I was browsing on LTE and a call came in my connection changed to 3g or hspa. This is because voice calls *cannot* transmit over LTE so your phone literally ditches LTE for the time on call to *accommodate* it.. VoLTE will solve this (thanks and about time) and improve quality too. So good to see.

Just as a side tidbit and a test for those may not know.. If you are rooted.. Or go into service menu and you force your phone to only use LTE as its band then no one can call you and when you try to call out it will appear to start dialing but then say call ended.. Years. ago this messed me up lol and I would forget to switch back and my calls were not working.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cknewdeal:
Yup, if you're using the v11 of the Canadian firmware you'll just need to flash that one file and you'll be good to go. I'm using it right now.

Edit: just realized I replied to an old post. Got excited that I was able to actually answer a question for once.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Yep this is correct and also what I did..

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Another great battery day yesterday.

First ss is day before and more typical heavier use but 18hrs use with 7.5 sot. Bluetooth, audio and video over 4 hours.

Yesterday 18hrs use just under 11 sot. Mostly browsing, Forums etc but still 3-4 hrs bt audio video.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Sidneymac:
Lollipop available for Bell/Canadian I guess overall. Rejoice people. The tmobile crew should be happy too. Just hoping to see it rooted so I can update. Thanks.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Nosferatu1923:
Waiting here too!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fortesquieu:
Been checking, still haven't got anything yet.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dbzgod:
Given Bell's announcement that it's available would mean that they approved it to go out today but Samsung just hasn't finished processing it to the update servers. Should be live some time this evening I would imagine.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ozzyos:
Now I've got to wait till it gets on Wind :s
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mattkroeder:
Lucky. I don't get anywhere near that. It's a good day if I even hit 4 hours SOT.

Lots of variables to consider unfortunately
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nolanyoung:
Updating bell now!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sharp2G:
Must flash this once it is out on SamMobile!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] rbreban:
Anyone know where can I get the source? I was wondering if I flash bells 4.4.4 and then conect it to kies would it show up
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
Just checked and there is a 1 gb update for me. I'm on Telus.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] egren58:
Someone pull the update
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TorontoR:
Downloading on Bell as we speak

Coming in very slowly
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ozzyos:
Just got it on Wind.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
It's on sam mobile for Bell, telus, Virginia and sasktel

Note 4 ?

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Now 5 minutes later, it wind and eastlink. Guess it's just uploading, and we'll have them all by the morning.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ozzyos:
:3
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
I keep looking but SamMobile not showing any new ones for any carrier.. Odd.. I want to test.. Don't care which carrier it has, they all work..

*****correction*****

I checked again but by specific carrier and it worked.. Just not on the main W8 page yet that shows all carriers.. That's odd too..

Anyways will flash bell one soon..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pappcam:
Downloading currently on SaskTel. :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
I see them on Main sm-n910w8 page.

Latest are Koodo and videotron.

I actually prefer to use telus, in absence of Fido firmwares,becauae historically it's historically the cleanest one, regarding bloatware.

And if telus csc takes over, usually it does not unless firmware is modified and is not stock recovery (that's the step after flash that you see unloading in recovery before it auto boots again), I prefer their data status icons better anyways.

Actually, the last paragraph is just in case I'm wrong, but as said few days ago by another (sorry can't find the post now, and did not remember name), actually all Canadian firmwares are same and they are all bell.

And prevailing opinion that the only difference is csc, and that's partially correct, but it goes further. They are even packaged absolutely same, default being bell. After flash, csc gets unloaded in stock recovery, where it is compared to existing, and that particular csc will become primary to match.

In the past users have complained that somehow, their firmware has been switched to Bell, even though they have downloaded telus for example. This happens for some of us, that flash other countries and custom firmwares. So when user is on European Btu csc for example, every Canadian firmware will flash as bell, cause it only has Btu or other multicsc, that does not correspond to existing Canadian package.

Sheeesh. I actually did not want to type all this. ? oh well it's here now.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] equlizer:
I sure hope its an improvement over 4.4.4. So is this 5.0 or higher?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Finally downloaded. Not flashing yet though. Just in case I don't like it, I'll update with my wife's phone tomorrow. I wanna be sure that Canadian bootloader and firmware are downgradeable, like the European counterparts.

It is not unheard of, that on request of providers, manufacturers do some stupid crap. And if I can't downgrade, at least it's not my phone ?.

What!?!?... She don't care for root, xposed and stuff. ☺

She care about whatsapp, Facebook, nad that candy crap. What can I say. Just weaned her of iPhone when note4 came out.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
I'm doing same.. Testing on wife's phone.. All w8 firmware can be flashed.. Correct. I wasn't aware that they were all essentially bell though..

Did you download bell or Telus?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
So what is it?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Telus. But as mentioned, if you unpack telus, or any Canadian firmware cache package (it's essentially just zip), you'll see that active csc is bell (root of csc, while the rest are in their respective folders (so is bell as well,but what's in folders is not active, unless it's in root).... So if you don't want to end up with Bell, unless that's your provider, just make sure that Canadian csc is active before Odin flash. Stock recovery is a must as well, but for note 4 that gets flashed with Odin in package anyways (this would only apply, if for example, chainfire bothered to make mobile Odin compatible with our phone, and we could selectively flash).

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] habs101:
I have a weird Issue:

I have a Rogers Note 4 unlocked... I was using on Fido.. (same company)

Recently I switched to Koodo, and now my issue is the follow:\

I will be using data and browsing, when all a sudden the internet stops working but there 4g (LTE) activity arrows - the upload will keep showing activity but nothing happens.. and eventually i get a " page can't be displayed "

I have switched koodo sim cards, and did a factory reset, and still the same issue

Though when I put my fido sim card back, everything is good, and no issues. the data doesn't stop and it works just fine

Confused.. not sure what it could be.

Running 4.4.4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
The update for Telus is 5.0.1. I'm playing around with it right, and I'm really enjoying it so far.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
[MENTION=728411]habs101[/MENTION] Don't know solution for your problem, but I know one thing. If you're on Rogers phone, then what you see as 4g is definitely not lte, it is in fact mislabelled (on purpose) hspa,hsdpa otherwise known as 3 1/2 g, and on telus firmware would show as h+.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] habs101:
I can guarantee you when i am on LTE on rogers it is LTE.. i do speedtest and i get over 116Mbps.. in my area
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mrnovanova:
I'm glad now one took me up on that bet that I would get my s6 edge before we got lollipop on the note 4. Ye of little faith. Phew!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
I think there all 5.01 based on what I see on sam mobile. Only Rogers firmware update page says 5.02 for April, but with their firmware currently missing from lineup, we can't be sure. Maybe just a mistype?

Could it be that Rogers is delayed because they are releasing 5.02 with VoLTE? Just kidding.

Note 4 ?

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When you wrote 4g(lte) i assumed that's what you're seeing. The 4g icon on Rogers/Fido firmware which is just advert crap.

Missunderstanding.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] habs101:
Oh, I do apologize for the misunderstanding .. Yeh on Rogers.. I never saw the 4g sign ever unless on the highway.. with Koodo for some reason it is all I see even though LTE is around here somewhere lol.. I just have to drive to find it.. but I have a 5gb plan for 55$ no way I was going to pass that up vs 90$ at fido/rogers
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pappcam:
So far, so good. Seems snappier and smoother so far after it settled down coming out of the upgrade.

Lock screen notifications are nice.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] equlizer:
how long did yours get stuck on the samsung screen for? It's been 5 mins so far

EDIT: All working good here! Very smooth!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DocKrazy:
5.0.1 Telus installed. Seems to be running good.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] vcallas:
5.0.1 on Wind. So far looks good but it looks like Samsung has not enabled Multi-User. That was one of the features I was looking forward to. Great for when I let the kids play on my device.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
Can you clarify that point again.. Just make sure that Canadian csc is active? Wife's Note is Rogers too.. Stock unrooted (although may change that).. Do I have to do something before flashing in Odin? A little confused about what u said

As for Rogers delay, I hope it's because of 5.0.2
[Galaxy Note 4 General] duykhang524:
Dont forget to take your pictures out of private mode before updating. You will not be able to see them after lollipop
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zerojay:
Not going to happen.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] duykhang524:
You can flash other carriers on top of your rogers phone
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Oh, that ties to my post before that one (the long rambling one) . Just in case you have custom firmware on it. For example T-Mobile or European, which can sometimes come with their own csc. In that case, any Canadian firmware will flash bell csc as active (files in root of system/csc folder that are identical to inactive ones in bell (bmc) subfolder ) . Conversely.

If your phone is on Rogers firmware, you're fine. Any Canadian firmware you flash, you'll still keep your original csc as active one (files from Rogers subfolder will be placed in root of system/csc) , in this case Rogers one.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] enigma4321:
Is there a root for 5.0.1 N910W8 yet?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] #1RAGE:
Updated on SaskTel. So far everything is working well and very smooth.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Did you try the existing one from chainfire. Maybe I'm mistaken, but dont remember reading anywhere, that European counterparts needed new way to root since updating to lollipop ?.

Note 4 ?