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[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
I wonder if we can carry on using the Samsung keyboard but disable some of the personalisation features, that I imagine might be responsible for the battery drain?

I'm reluctant to stop using the Samsung keyboard as personally I don't think either Google keyboard or SwiftKey are better, and also the spen works well with it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] M7md3li:
The only feature i will miss is direct input when you detach spen , but battery is most important to me so i will try anyway
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
Have you done a factory reset? In the past this has been the only way to solve these issues.

It's a right pain in the a... to restore everything but the other option is to fiddle about for ages with different things and still not make much of a difference.

My note edge was terrible on lollipop - laggy and a battery hog. Since I reset it's been much better (touch wood).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] luismedina:
Turns out the software in my phone is perfectly fine, the battery is the culprit here. It discharges even when the phone is turned off at a 10% rate per hour, when in use you can see the percentage dropping by blocks of 3 or 4%, the battery becomes depleted after 3 hours or so, heat is very very perceptible, battery voltage is at 3.8V when it's fully charged. I will have to replace the battery
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dedovec:
Disabled trough stock app manager Samsung's bloat, Briefing, ANT, Maps, G+, Facebook, Whatsap, Instagram (i don't use socials, except Viber) etc.

Sent from my SM-N9100
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Kernel ranger:
I don't know why I get the feeling your battery was initially great, the charger or charging algorithm may have messed it from some kind of malfunction. Ensure your charger is good otherwise it will just repeat itself. You may be forced to disable fast charge since you say the problem started after BOE3 update a few posts ago, so am not entirely convinced that the software in your phone is fine especially that the problem showed up after the update.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] luismedina:
The problem started out of nowhere a couple of nights ago , it was perfectly fine With BOE3 , I don 't have many apps installed : banking app , facebook , instagram , pebble app , Evernote , pinterest , pocket , linkedin pulse, twitter , SwiftKey , spotify and that's it ) but Suddenly I felt my phone was very hot , the battery was almost untouchable when I removed it, I was not charging the phone at that moment . I rolled back to BOD2 (my carrier last official update ) and the problem persisted even after two user data / cache wipes . I do not see any physical damage in the battery (it is not bulged ) . One of my coworkers have a Note 4 too and I asked to borrow his phone battery, I did not saw any sudden drain battery or battery overheat with his battery. Any further suggestion? Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Chengalang:
These are my stats with power saving mode turned on. I haven't tried factory reseting yet. Anyone else feeling my pain?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
That's because you have bloat apps running and Google Services drain.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Chengalang:
I have a lot of them already disabled. Any other ones you might suggest?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] robertbr108:
This is today's status, very good standby time with everything turned on including nfc location, Wi-Fi scanning, Wi-Fi notification, auto- switch networks. I do not understand it any more. This is 910f stoc with no applications stopped. The problem is that some days is good and some very bad.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alxdhln:
Fast battery drain

Can someone tell me if this is normal? Last night i had my note 4 at 61% battery life and i put it on ultra power saving mode. When I woke up this morning i found it at 40%. I don't know why but the battery drained preety fast this time. Bluetooth...nfc...are off....gps is on power saving.

P.S I don't know why...but i never get over 4h screen on time...whitout gps, mobile data, nfc ar location activated... can someone tell me what should i do to improve it ? (Device NOT rooted)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Captain_iGlue:
I have battery drain because of Android system and Android OS. Got terrible screen on time (3h max)

Someone knows how to fix this?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Kernel ranger:
That is a network signal coverage issue, now unless you are seated in the same spot all the days of your life, expect nothing short of that. Marked improvement can only be made by replacing your current apps with better, efficient ones.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] M7md3li:
Google contacts sync appear although i turned it off ! Also why settings always here ! Any thoughts
[Galaxy Note 4 General] chololazo:
I have the same exact CPU usage, with all the same culprits. I've also disabled google contact sync and have no idea what to do with the setting consumption.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] M7md3li:
I figured out that settings appear only if you are using 3rd party keyboards , it takes the site of Samsung keyboard on top of the list so if you return to stock keyboard , stop profiling and start one again Samsung keyboard appear again and settings is gone . But really we need to know which one has the upper hand on draining juice
[Galaxy Note 4 General] electech13:
I will concur that it sounds like pooched battery.. Full charge is 3.8v!? Yep.. And big drastic swings... New battery time

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"gps on power saving"? If it's on in any fashion for a long g period of time you will get big drain.. Turn it off?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alxdhln:
The phone is new... I bought it a month ago. Its hard to believe that the battery is at fault.

Last night I activated the ultra power saver again and it went down about 5%.

My SOT is 3.03 h this time...at 27%battery life. I installed greenify, put some apps o sleep....disabled some bloatware...but still....i don't know how to improve SOT.

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I see many people who get SOT 4h+ with everything on(wifi...sync...gps)? How do they get that?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
Even if GPS is set to be on all the time, it isn't actually always on - it will only turn on when requested to by an app, for example Google location reporting. To be honest having it set to be on all the time shouldn't be a massive battery drain.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dzebrys:
might be they all are on kk.

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[Galaxy Note 4 General] BlackCrow-It:
I think so. In the end if it drain battery it il because some app are using GPS all the time

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[Galaxy Note 4 General] BlackCrow-It:
Are you still getting over 7/8h sot??
[Galaxy Note 4 General] luismedina:
Hello! After some serious issues with my phone, it's been finally fixed.

Turned out the root cause of my issue was not the battery, was the phone itself! I bought my phone by the end of November so I still have warranty, I took it to one of my carrier stores (Telcel, Mexico) and to my surprise, no questions asked, the phone was sent to Samsung last Friday and today they sent me a text message asking me to go to the store to pick up my phone, they replaced the PBA for free.

Besides the overheating issue my phone was not able to turn on by pressing the button, it needed to be connected to the charger in order to turn on. If anyone else have a similar issue like me, I totally recommend you to go to your carrier and make your warranty valid, this will save you a few dollars for sure.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Anubis007:
Battery life of my week old N4 (Exynos version), 16:30 hours with 5:20 SOT. My standby is great too, with only 1% lost over 5 hours. I must say I am relieved after reading so many negative reports after the Lollipop update.

So I spent approximately 40% on 3G, and 60% on Wifi. My usage is mostly facebook, twitter, instagram, browsing the web, about 15 minutes of youtube, downloaded some applications and played about 20 minutes of Injustice. Location is off all the time, i have disabled many of Samsung bloat and auto update for apps, display mode is on basic and my screen brightness is at 20-25%.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
Does anyone else find that one day battery life can be awful, yet the next it can be decent, with no real change in use or settings?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] luismedina:
Mine does exactly that, some days I can get only 8 hours of battery with 1.5 SOT (barely) and the other around 24 hours with 4-6 SOT, it's really weird
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
Yep, which is why these days I tend to not bother tinkering around with the settings etc, because it seems to have a mind of its own anyway!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
Could be to do with signal quality? If you have a poor signal the battery drain will be higher
[Galaxy Note 4 General] luismedina:
I haven't thought that, with LTE connection I have 2-3 bars, 3G seems to be a lot better with the signal bar completely full. Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
Strange as today in my office (on wifi) my mobile signal was going from no service to very weak 3g and i got the best battery ever!

Yes last night at home (again on wifi) I had full 3g and it was draining like nobody's business. I used a profiling app and found that it was Samsung keyboard that was using most of the cpu
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jmtocali:
In my case I found that changing the network mode to HSPA from LTE increased a lot the battery life. At my office the LTE coverage is terrible and I'm on wifi there.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BlackCrow-It:
Some day I get 5h If I'm lucky and other I get 3/4. Always Wifi and, I don't know. even using offline mode things doesn't change even a little. I guess I know a few people who get over 6h sot but to be honest I have not any idea why this happen
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
You're right even in offline mode it doesn't make a difference which is quite weird. It's a shame there isn't an app out there that can pinpoint exactly what's causing the drain - I'm sure there are ways to do this if rooted but my days of rooting and messing about are behind me. Surely Samsung could develop software to do this or maybe they don't want to as it would probably highlight a lot of their apps as the culprits!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
Almost everyday I look at the CPU cycles being used on TREPN profiler and some sort of bloat app has kicked off and is causing drain. Really annoying.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BlackCrow-It:
The only one that has to fix this problem is Google.

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What is trepn profiler?

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[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
An app that shows you all the apps and services using the CPU. You can then (if your rooted) kill the offending app using Servicely or Greenify. It's in the Play Store.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BlackCrow-It:
So chrome use about 40% cpu
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
Perhaps when it's doing something intensive but that's way too high. It's sitting at 4% on mine at the moment.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BlackCrow-It:
It got warmer while I was searching on google!

Facebook was about 15% .. whats'app 3.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] POLO_i780:
Still enjoying good battery life on my Note 4, but SOT does seem to have dropped. I used to get 7hours SOT easily, but now I usually get just over 6hours SOT, still better than most Androids but not as good as what this phone can really.

Overall happy :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BlackCrow-It:
How did you get that much? Watching video with low brightness? I think it's amazing with lollipop..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] POLO_i780:
I did nothing special, I WhatsApped, browsed Instagram and Facebook, read news on Twitter and Google News App, played music via BT in my car, did some Periscope, quite a bit of online banking and even played Pinball for a bit and took a few calls.

I have CPU Only power saving turned on, my brightness is set at 35%, although when I am outside or in my car I set it to Auto. I am in and out of WiFi and my network coverage is pretty good which probably helps.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SLIK J:
The battery life on these phones is phenomenal. Ever since I've used it, I've had no need to carry a charger.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
I'd agree that the battery life has the potential to be phenomenal but in reality most people don't realise this potential due to the way their phones are set up, or purely down to the bugs/quirks within the OS. In other words you can achieve great battery life, but you have to work extremely hard!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] M7md3li:
And how can we release the monster

I tried many things but still have around 5 sot
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SLIK J:
How much SOT do you need? I average that per day and it's pretty good. Battery life is determined by so many factors. How you use your phone will have a big impact aswell.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] M7md3li:
So many people report more than 6 hours sot as a standard with no app disabled
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cricketgirl90:
I dunno how ppl get 6 hrs of SOT. max I've got is maybe 5 hrs. That is when m reading an ebook on black background. I've got exynos version though. Maybe that's the issue. Also I feel my network is not v strong.. and that causes battery drain too.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Winston1989:
I am really sick of this phone and samsung as a whole. My SOT is barely 3hrs, drains are constant, I go to sleep with 30% battery and wake up with 5.. So standy is bad also.. Dont know how to fix it, done a factory, cleared cache and none helps...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] POLO_i780:
Is that all you have tried?

Have you adjusted how often Facebook and Twitter refresh? Both by default are set to every 5minutes by default by their developers.

How good is your signal? Do you have 4G in your area? If not or if coverage is low set the phone to WCDMA/GSM (3G/2G).

Maybe try CPU Only Power Saving? Go into Settings -Power Savings -Power Saving Mode -Restrict Performance -tap on CPU Performance only, that should help to. The CPU has more than enough power, even to run most games in power saving.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Winston1989:
Thanks for repplying. Actually I do not use facebook, twitter or any other social network, so i have them all disabled. Signal is decent, although some places at my home tend to drop it to 1 bar. I do not have 4G here. I havent tried restricting cpu performance, and actually dont want to do that. What is the point of a flagship if you have to restrict cpu in order to have decent battery.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cricketgirl90:
Which version of os r u on? Snapdragon or exynos?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] robertbr108:
I would try to disable location when you are not using it. I had the same issue and now it is better. Not perfect however, lollipop is just a battery eater.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Winston1989:
Exynos version. Boe3.

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Yes, i have tried that and it is somewhat better. Disabling location overnight gives me about 10% drain. Which is not as much as with location on though still not as it should be.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cricketgirl90:
If you have too many images it might cuz battery drain. Don't delete pictures. Just plug ur phone to computer search ur phone memory and ur SD card for 0 kb files and delete those files. Then fully drain ur battery and charge to 100%. This might improve ur battery.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Kernel ranger:
After a few days of real world frustration with Lollipop, I dropped down to Kitkat and it's all bliss :D Everything works without the need for countless restarts!

This is my first power cycle real world usage:-

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I know I can get 1 or 2 more hours SOT out of it when the battery is calibrated after 3 power cycles. Each and every moment the screen was on, the phone was mostly on WiFi or hops onto data when WiFi falls out of reach (as you can see the WiFi signal is weak). I was mostly surfing with the phone, a few phone calls, no gaming yet.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iopah:
I am myself ready to do downgrade. The only thing that stops me is a need to restore all the apps settings afterwards, as I did not root and cannot backup/restore through Titanium.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Winston1989:
I do not want to restore to kitkat. I dont understand why am I not able to get more than 15ish hours of battery.. I feel like I am constantly charging the phone. Also do not have many images on it. Around 200ish...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Kernel ranger:
Use Helium backup, it doesn't require root
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Deadric007:
Is this on exynos version or snapdragon? And is this on an extended battery or just the normal one :)

I'm surprised because i only get 3.5 hours sot on my note 4 with lollipop that is.

So i'm considering the downgrade.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cricketgirl90:
Same here.. I can never get more than 4 hrs of SOT over 16 to 18 hrs standby (WiFi and 3G). Mine is exynos version. I can never understand how ppl get 9 hrs of SOT. Do they even use social media apps. Do they use Internet? Do they whatsapp? I can't get it honestly
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Batfink33:
Most I've had is around 6. To get that I had to freeze or uninstall most bundled system apps and turn off a lot of services. I also installed a custom kernel and used a battery saving govenor. Usually without doing all that I get around 4hours.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Kernel ranger:
Heads up people there is a notorious service called "Security policy update" which just decided out of no where for no apparent reason to hog my battery. I just took it down for messing with my it now everything is back to normal. A little history on it reveals it was introduced around last year November and comes in through here (Google playstore) and its permissions are alarming make it suspiciously falling in the category of spy apps.

This is the Snapdragon International version (German) and it is its original battery, I can't afford an extension right now. Where I come from there is a sea of Exynos and a good thing before I got mine I visited this thread because I had heard wonders about this SD, mine shipped with Tantrumpop (Lollipop), now am actually seeing it for myself. I downgraded from lollipop because it was quite annoying the way I had to keep restarting apps and the OS to get things going everytime things would lock up. Kitkat is just cool, all my apps work as they should indefinitely. I even avoided the Exynos C version because I knew I won't get much battery life from it with stellar performance.

Am using Firefox v35 with add-ons to minimize data usage (I have gone as low as 3MB in and out gmail satisfactorily reading all my mails but avoided desktop mode for Firefox because that one is super ubber data hungry [13MB for just loading gmail page]), am also on Whats app v2.11.531 (firewall controlled to stop auto-update as am not using Android market app) and it's ON all that time, infact the whole OS is firewall controlled, nothing just accesses internet at will and it's proving very very effective battery-wise, I also use CleanMaster and have very few and necessary auto-starting apps, disabled sync, location, NFC. Am going 2 days strong with all that SOT in this stock rooted OS and I hear good things about X-Note rom which is even better in battery life. I have intentionally avoided any battery savers whatsoever. Where I come from there is a sea of Exynos Note 4 that have 3-4hrs SOT mostly 5hrs on a custom rom, I also have seen quite notably that WiFi consumes much much more than H+/4G and for the real world test, I was on WiFi as seen on the graph in my previous comment but I took all the trouble to go after the Snapdragon after I also saw this:-

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I am convinced it must be the results of a custom rom, not sure which one. If your not on a Snapdragon Note 4, you will hardly see this kind of performance and may not even believe it which is quite understandable. My mobile signal coverage is very good in my region so maybe that's why my battery isn't taxed. Am warming up to move to X-Note rom.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] robertbr108:
Most people posting that SOT are using custom ROMs or kill most background services which does not make sense. What is the use of a smartphone if you kill Google services, Facebook, Samsung etc.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ksspavan:
battery issue

my samsung note 4 is giving around 3 and half hours onscreen time...mine is an indian version n910g.....i dont frequently clear apps but...is this normal?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cricketgirl90:
Same here.. I bought a Samsung phone to use TouchWiz features not to freeze those features. .. what's the use of a smartphone if you end up freezing everything. . Might as well get a 10 yr old Nokia phone
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Kernel ranger:
Just because I have replaced my stock apps with other efficient ones that don't abuse resources in the background and have chosen to re-assign apps and functions in my phone differently than you doesn't make my use any different in terms of what a smartphone is categorized as. The fact that all functions are being achieved but using a different setup still makes my use valid. Your opinion is like stating that the way you use your own phone is the way everyone else should which is a very flawed mentality and that can't hold water in any argument, it's a comment I'd expect from an apple fanboy/girl. Android is about options and I like options! If I can get the very same job done with little hustle and better results over what already exists, I would do it in a heartbeat, I don't have to force myself to use bloatware to get the job done and complain and murmur all about how am getting 3-4hrs SOT. It is silly to complain about a phone having bloatware/poor battery and when someone does something about it, you tell them they are better off with a 10yr old Nokia...........REALLY?????????? It's really not smart to run all those things in the Note and expect heaven. It's the reason we even have custom roms if you are man enough to leap that far assuming that you aren't afraid of rooting your phones but I don't know if you are quick enough to see that. I really wonder what you would say if you saw a Note 4 running Barebones rom let alone what I have done. Sorry for you guys if you can't get things running the way you like on your phones.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cricketgirl90:
Lol u are allowed to have an opinion on everything and I cannot? I don't understand man logic

Anyways u are absolutely right u have customize phone according to ur needs and that is something provided by android and you can do whatever u want. Just like I can do whatever I want as well and maybe I do have the brains to install custom rom but I don't have the time to do it... so chill.. if u can have an opinion so can I!

Congrats on ur 11 hrs of SOT! My point was u can't achieve that on stock TouchWiz rom. That's it!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Kernel ranger:
Don't get me wrong I wasn't talking about opinion here, you are entitled to your own opinion and I shouldn't talk you down on it, I was talking about what you think should be the right way to use a smartphone because you are the same one who said:

in one of your previous posts. I totally agree touchwiz is lousy, I don't like it at all and I also don't understand why sammy hasn't heard the complaints of many about it but there are ways around it if it doesn't bother you to take the trouble to go around it, even in stock rooted roms like mine. Your point is well taken, but mine is an actual practical experience that I have shared here.