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[Xperia Z3 General] doministry:
For me Z3 shows more detail.

And I don't like iPhone's yellowish tint.

It looks "nicer" but it's less real.

I have the feeling Sony is producing more real colours,

besides the photo of the guy on the bike..
[Xperia Z3 General] subhani:
It's not imola red. It's just called BMW red with a color code. Imola really is different.

Hit THANKS if I helped! From a Sony Z3 via Tapatalk.
[Xperia Z3 General] bart-videophile:
Actually, I think I was a bit hasty there and was distracted by the 20 mp pics. When comparing the 8mp pix I actually prefer the Z3-pics most of the time (except for the first two of the statue's face). They show more detail in my opinion.
[Xperia Z3 General] subhani:
[MENTION=6280758]GhostRaiderMX[/MENTION]

My recommendations are a) Camu and b) A better camera

Hit THANKS if I helped! From a Sony Z3 via Tapatalk.
[Xperia Z3 General] arifbud:
Yesterday
[Xperia Z3 General] subhani:
That pano is epic. Did you apply any post processing?

Hit THANKS if I helped! From a Sony Z3 via Tapatalk.
[Xperia Z3 General] subhani:
And [MENTION=500746]Artood2s[/MENTION]

I'm sorry I couldn't get you a daylight shot of the car. I'm still working on it though LOL.

IPhone

Z3

Hit THANKS if I helped! From a Sony Z3 via Tapatalk.
[Xperia Z3 General] brynte5:
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[Xperia Z3 General] Venacephalica:
I think there are enough details:D
[Xperia Z3 General] corallus:
ISS only using digital zoom.
[Xperia Z3 General] doministry:
Thanks!!

It just proves my point...

Z3 all the way.

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Please share the settings and what filters?

Beautiful shots!
[Xperia Z3 General] pchetan2:
Shot using a better camera and edited using instagram

Shot using a better camera and edited using instagram
[Xperia Z3 General] xvit096:
Turbo! ????
[Xperia Z3 General] yokojess:
Taken outside. No filter.

Looks good to me!

(sorry for wrong rotation)
[Xperia Z3 General] subhani:
Just wanted to throw in another observation. I found the IPhone 6+ to be marginally but consistently superior in indoor lighting conditions. This applies to everything except for human skin.

1. There is a very strong 'watercolour painting' effect on human skin. Creating a more artificial finish than the Z3 (which also struggles but does a much better job). This is strange as the rest of the inanimate subjects in the scene are rendered by the iphone in greater detail and realism as compared to the Z3. This is has been a consistent result for me.

2. The iPhone struggles to eliminate motion blur for moving subjects like children. Again, the Z3 exhibits similar difficulties but produces a better result. I believe the iPhone's OIS allows for a slower shutter speed, lower ISOs but this only eliminates a) low exposure problems plus noise and b) 'wrist' induced blur. But the slower shutter speed could be the culprit for moving children blurring very often. Correct me if I'm wrong guys.

Lastly, sorry I didn't share any example images, though I have many. I am not comfortable posting family pics online.

Hit THANKS if I helped! From a Sony Z3 via Tapatalk.
[Xperia Z3 General] brynte5:
thanx man:)

glad you like 'em:)

these are the settings i used:

manual mode

* 15.5MP (16:9)

* White Balance Auto

* smile shutter off

* Focusmode single auto focus

* ISO auto

* Metering Multi

* Image stabibliser on

* Face registration off

these are the apps i used to edit the pix and in the order i used them:

* perfectly clear

i always start editing with this app to "quickfix" my pix and quite often the improvement (not always) is clear to see.

* photoshop express

i wanted to use instagram filters, so i started by cropping the pix in this app to 1x1.

then i apply a suitable filter.

in these pix i used "bueno".

after that i edited the pix further by increasing "sharpen" by 30, "reduce noise" by 20 and "defog" by 20 and chose the auto setting for "temperature".

after that i added a frame called "bevel black.

* instagram

i used either the lo-fi, or x-pro 2 filter.

added some extra light with the middle button.

maybe added some additional sharpening, but i don't think i did.

* there is an excellent app that came preinstalled and is called "photos" (translation from swedish, so might be a little off).

i think it's like the photo album for the z3, but not sure.

anyway, it has some amazing filters and effects and for these pix, i chose "drama" and the effect of that filter actually is pretty dramatic.
[Xperia Z3 General] sefelizrc:
Algodon by sefelizrc, on Flickr

Cetro by sefelizrc, on Flickr
[Xperia Z3 General] sefelizrc:
Pinchos by sefelizrc, on Flickr

Flor de invierno by sefelizrc, on Flickr
[Xperia Z3 General] serv380:
Auto
[Xperia Z3 General] dedei:
That cat picture (gorgeous cat btw!) is a perfect example of how the camera destroys the details on indoor shots :(
[Xperia Z3 General] serv380:
I know! :( that was auto too.
[Xperia Z3 General] bluesky2111:
Today I tested canera performance on my Z3 and my brother's Moto G (2014). The result scared me a little. I hope it's just me who thought the moto G ones were more vivid... what do u guys think?

Moto G:

Z3:

Moto G:

Z3:
[Xperia Z3 General] itsjustJOH:
^It only looks more "vivid" because of the warmer tone. The only thing that is wrong on the Z3 shots is the white balance (or not).

It's the auto unnecessarily choosing a higher ISO to brighten the shot.
[Xperia Z3 General] KL643:
Just want to drop my 2 ct here. For a flagship phone which cost more than €500, the camera is useless for point and shoot photography. Yes you can take nice pictures if you change to manual but before you got the right settings, the moment is already gone. I've owned a Z1 compact and that one had a light bleed problem. I just can't understand why Sony is not able to create a phone which is camera wise perfect out of the box. I hope the update to Android L will fix this or otherwise i sell it and buy a phone which is able to shoot brilliant pictures on standard mode because most users don't wanna play with all the settings first to get a decent shot, at least not me, i use my Sony A 77M2 for that ;)
[Xperia Z3 General] undercover:
Agree. Should have been better. But still not bad, acceptable imho.

Is your username after AMS-JFK flight?
[Xperia Z3 General] Silverdace:
The z3 has trouble with white balance. I've started using cloudy setting for white balance on any well lit subject. Colours come out far more accurate.

Try take the same pictures with cloud wb and I bet the colours will be more similar.

The Sony firmware seems to really struggle doing anything in auto, even using other camera apps.

They've cut staff and are talking about dropping the smartphone division altogether so I wouldn't hold out much hope for then fixing it.

Really sad as the camera software is the only thing holding them back from having the best phone out imo.
[Xperia Z3 General] sanakin:
mains75 Yes!

[IMG="Z3 Shot"]https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/10887422_720238514757299_1422942193663369141_o.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="z3"]https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/11014859_727641230683694_3069559500201065475_o.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="z3"]https://scontent-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/10863789_727641640683653_440483514780020983_o.jpg[/IMG]
[Xperia Z3 General] subhani:
Indeed, the Z3 shots look slightly cooler or paler? But upon closer inspection, the images are sharper on the Z3 and have that automatic realism to it that i can never put my finger on. Just looks more vivid, in the 'real life' kind of vivid instead of the 'colourful' vivid. Don't know if I'm making any sense.
[Xperia Z3 General] danmak89:
I think I work in a nice location. Also I absolutely love the level of detail when I zoom in on Canary Wharf
[Xperia Z3 General] bluesky2111:
Not relevant but do you guys found the Z3 uncomfortable to hold? Sometimes the flat back panel just caused a little bit frustrating for my hands, i prefer the curved back like Moto G or HTC.
[Xperia Z3 General] slonn:
I can see my office there. Great photo ☺
[Xperia Z3 General] subhani:
Here is a crop of two shots of the same scene from the same location at the same time, using just a chair to steady my hand. It's a low light scenario where the iPhone generally keeps up with the Z3, often doing better than the Z3 (in extreme low light the Z3 owns the competition). Yet this shot is to demonstrate that when playing with settings, a more favourable result can be achieved by the Sony. The Z3 is in manual 15mp mode, ISO at 100 if i recall correctly. That's it. I found the Z3 sharper and clearer and colours were more accurate as opposed to the iPhone, which produced some blur, lower details (esp in the 'thatched/woven' basket, its handle etc) and the entire scene looks colder than in the real world. It looks very pale.
[Xperia Z3 General] subhani:
iPhone 6+

Z3

Download these to your computer and compare side by side.
[Xperia Z3 General] pascalbrax:
I don't know... iPhone still looks a bit better... Sadly...
[Xperia Z3 General] progosu:
are you kidding me? in this one z3 is actually incomparably better.
[Xperia Z3 General] lyubor:
I too think the Z3 shot turned out better. However it's a shot in auto which doesn't at all represent what the sensor on our Z3 is capable of. Take the same shot in manual and then compare them.
[Xperia Z3 General] KL643:
Were does it say it's auto mode?
[Xperia Z3 General] lyubor:
The characteristics of the shot, 16:9 and the overall processing. That's what superior auto shots look like.
[Xperia Z3 General] Ansago:
He says in the post above where he posts the cropped shots that this is in Manual mode, 15.5MP, ISO 100, etc. Sony definitely looks better to me.
[Xperia Z3 General] juanmaasecas:
Use manual control in iPhone (same exposition values) and then compare again...
[Xperia Z3 General] Ansago:
I've only had the phone a couple of days now, but from what I've seen the camera is more than good enough for casual day-to-day shooting. The front camera leaves something to be desired, but I don't use it very much so for me that's not a big deal. I would never use a smartphone camera for pixel-peeping, no matter how expensive it is - optics can only be so good in something as thin and light as this. That being said, if they could somehow cram the sensor from their Alpha line in it I would pay a premium :D
[Xperia Z3 General] chobits:
lol +1 for that

but for now i just wish Lumix sell their CM-1 phone globally

by the time it hits US on summer, it will all be too late

*sigh*
[Xperia Z3 General] felipondrioxcl:
Here some of my pics.
[Xperia Z3 General] juanmaasecas:
Colour and sharpness apart, I HATE wide lens because of this (gif mounted by me from some pics posted by an spanish guy in other forum...)
[Xperia Z3 General] radicans:
That's some serious distortion! Surely it must be cropped from the corner of a photo? But yeah, it's especially annoying with people/portrait photos. You have to step back and make sure the subject is contained within a small center portion of the frame, or the proportions will look really weird.
[Xperia Z3 General] juanmaasecas:
Originals (actually resized...)

s5

http://i.imgur.com/87c98do.jpg

z3

http://i.imgur.com/EbE7s2Z.jpg
[Xperia Z3 General] doministry:
Yeah strange. Never happened to me to have such a strange distortion. Especially close to the middle of the field.
[Xperia Z3 General] Vic.:
That's not a fair comparison, the cropped portion is not even in the corner in the S5 photo.
[Xperia Z3 General] juanmaasecas:
I think it always happens, but it's harder to tell the difference if you don't compare the picture directly with other phone... people in the very left or the right of the frame look awful...

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Neither in the z3...

The blindest person is the one that isn't aim to see...
[Xperia Z3 General] jonmorris:
You nearly always get great shots once the sun comes out. Take a macro shot in brilliant lighting and you can make this camera look like the best thing ever!

Only yesterday I got a load of good shots, all nice and sharp and with beautiful colours (taken with Camera FV-5 FWIW), but today at my son's birthday party (indoors) it was back to noisy blurred shots. Luckily I had a Sony DSLR (a mere 16MP) that coped magnificently.

This is what bugs me.
[Xperia Z3 General] Ansago:
Got some good shots walking around the neighborhood today. It does remove a lot of fine detail, especially in auto, but overall I'm very happy with the quality.
[Xperia Z3 General] sefelizrc:
Primavera by sefelizrc, on Flickr
[Xperia Z3 General] undercover:
[

As always, original here

https://mega.co.nz/#F!7Nc1FKyJ!-51W2wqZrZDRr4BNaQ1AHw
[Xperia Z3 General] sefelizrc:
Contraluz by sefelizrc, on Flickr
[Xperia Z3 General] infinitylook:
I really want to take great pictures with my z3 but don't know how to take it using manual. Any settings you use at manual and at what scenario you're using it?
[Xperia Z3 General] Silverdace:
Use a different camera app basically.

The Sony one doesn't save settings so is a pain in the ass to use. It also locks out all your options if you go over 8mp.

The biggest Sony auto fault I've noticed is the white balance. It will get it wrong 9/10 times so worth setting manually to get colours correct.

It also defaults to a portrait setting in manual with face detection focus and metering. You'll want to change these to touch/multi focus and multi metering.

The only time Sony app is better is in low light when the auto mode works best anyway.

For quick snaps I find the button is just too convenient so I use auto most of the time and live with the issues.

So for me I've stopped using manual.

Fingers crossed that in lollipop Sony have spent some effort on fixing the camera app and giving access to raw.
[Xperia Z3 General] doministry:
Well you have to use settings according to the situation right?

So tweak white balance, light metering, type of focussing according to your needs.

You have to experiment, there is no one magic setting for everything.

And avoid Auto. It's mostly crap. It's useful only when you have to take a quick shot and have no time to look for settings.

In very difficult situation with moving objects I always use Sport or Party scene with 8mpx.

Otherwise 20mpx.
[Xperia Z3 General] corallus:
Any camera news come out of MWC? I know they have a z3 running the lollipop update on it, anyone know of any camera feedback?
[Xperia Z3 General] radicans:
There have been a few user videos posted where they "test" lollipop on Z3. And by "test" I mean something like:

apps/home/apps/home/apps swipe left swipe left swipe right swipe right/home swipe swipe swipe swipe /apps/home swipe swipe... etc.

Pointless!
[Xperia Z3 General] corallus:
Ikr,

All the same shots of "ooh look how smooth it is"

These people are the media who know the kind of things people want to know, but instead, same old same old motions you describe.

Not one tech journalist so far has revealed anything about the changes to z3

Raw?

Pink spot gone?
[Xperia Z3 General] infinitylook:
The new Samsung Galaxy S6 takes great shots and guess what, it's using the IMX240 sensor from Sony.

Here's the link

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/03/02...s6-and-s6-edge-have-the-imx240-camera-sensor/

And here are some camera samples.

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/03/02/here-are-some-real-camera-samples-from-the-samsung-galaxy-s6/

Now if the next Sony flagship will not be on par with this or even better then I really give up on Sony messing up their software and making them look stupid for not being able ti utilize their own technology.
[Xperia Z3 General] Venacephalica:
I preordered a S6 yesterday 64 GB gold colored :D
[Xperia Z3 General] xcut:
Low lighting
[Xperia Z3 General] Venacephalica:
Background Defocus
[Xperia Z3 General] mains75:
Me too!! La pano è sempre la pano...!! :)

Qualche foto della Baia?
[Xperia Z3 General] AnteusFogg:
Pretty satisfied with this camera, in any condition really.

Maybe OIS would have helped but it's not a deal breaker either.

Color is accurate, details are enough and don't feel like it's over processed
[Xperia Z3 General] xvit096:
underwater #xperiaz3 ?
[Xperia Z3 General] danmak89:
A few settings I used to get the best out of this bright sunny day:

ISO: 100

F-number: f/2

Exposure: 1/6400

I know direct sunlight can wash out a few pictures, but I actually really like that effect. Slowly getting to grips with how to take better manual photos thanks to this amazing camera.
[Xperia Z3 General] subhani:
Low light comparison.

Z3 much brighter and legible. IPhone much more detail but not legible.
[Xperia Z3 General] Stixxbixby:
Samsung Galaxy S6 vs Sony Xperia Z3 Camera Test: http://youtu.be/SDgmFC2H5eU

Interesting! Thoughts?

Update: Created new thread
[Xperia Z3 General] infinitylook:
Are you usually using 20mp or 8mp? And do you usually apply scene mode?
[Xperia Z3 General] infinitylook:
My z3 is not waterproof now so I took the chance of checking it and compare pictures without backcover and with back cover. It was indeed really clear without the back cover. The lens guard appears really oily like its badly scratched or maybe just a coating. But yeah, definitely it affects pics. I would post photo comparison soon.

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Photo settings: 15mp manual with iso 800 and single autofocus

Without cover

https://www.flickr.com/gp/26116109@N02/h5p590

With cover

https://www.flickr.com/gp/26116109@N02/D74730

Sorry I can't upload more than 2mb.
[Xperia Z3 General] sefelizrc:
Puesta de sol by sefelizrc, on Flickr
[Xperia Z3 General] danmak89:
Hi, I use 20MP and no scene mode as of course it won't work at that res. Met my photographer friend at the weekend who gave me a few tips. Looking forward to taking more/better photos with this device.
[Xperia Z3 General] scribbclubber:
Superior auto mode
[Xperia Z3 General] Jiibus:
Superior auto mode with cyber-shot xposed module.
[Xperia Z3 General] sefelizrc:
Mar de conchas by sefelizrc, on Flickr
[Xperia Z3 General] infinitylook:
This is out of topic but how do you guys embed full resolution images from Flickr here? I'm using Flickr and i cant get the image to be loaded in line with messages. I can get the link and paste here but when I paste it as an image link it won't loadm it only display the link and had to click it and that would take me to Flickr on chrome to view it.
[Xperia Z3 General] Jerber:
Easy, first : Z3, second : i-Phone, Am I right?
[Xperia Z3 General] Huey85:
pretty easy to tell given the filenames of the photos..
[Xperia Z3 General] Jerber:
In fact the difference is in the sharpness, Z3 is less sharpen than the iPhone, I've been looking all the reviews that I found about the Xperia Z3 and that's always the most notable difference with other phones; anyways I'm getting a Z3 in two months, very excited about it, and I wanted to do a petition to a Xperia Z3 owner on this post:

I would ask for some pictures like:

Daylight : SA and 50 ISO manual

Macro (same)

Night (same)

Daylight HDR On and off

Everything of course in the max resolution possible and with a correct focus, Can somebody do me that favor and share the pictures on a Rar archive? I want to see the full quality

I'm asking a lot...
[Xperia Z3 General] itsjustJOH:
Sir, let me laud your beautiful shot
[Xperia Z3 General] subhani:
iPhone 6+ Auto

Z3 manual 15 MP

Z3 Auto

Z3 Better Camera HDR

My observations are that:

1. The Z3 images are sharper than iPhone, in manual.

2. Auto mode is much improved since .77 update that it is close to manual detail levels

3. Better Camera looks very artificial but dynamic range is superb and exposure much better overall. The over processing has somehow added greater definition to the grass closest to the lens, the bush on the left etc.

4. Exposure is still slightly better on Z3 as compared to the iPhone. Colours more accurate instead of dark and muted on iPhone. However, the sky is always blown out to bring the foreground up to exposure.

5. iPhone is a breeze to capture photos on. Capture speed is instant. No settings to play with to get that right shot. I had to take more than one shot with the Z3 as is evident from above to choose the best effect. I realised that SA on Z3 is more than competent and will almost always default to that now for convenience purposes.

6. iPhone file sizes are much smaller.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? No flaming please...

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yes you are right
[Xperia Z3 General] Jerber:
The sky on the i-Phone looks better for me, hows the story if you try stock hdr on the Z3?, I edited the Z3 picture on Lr and PS (fast correction of light and position) and look at this :), If im able to do this, I will be happy anyways, the quality of the pic is still the same as the original.
[Xperia Z3 General] subhani:
Not bad at all mate. :good: good work.

Yes, as i mentioned, the Z3 overexposed the sky in order to expose the foreground. The iphone did the opposite. I think had i pointed the iphone lower towards the foreground, then it would have produced a similar result. Dang, hindsight is no use. In any case, the foreground takes priority for me over the sky so the Z3 did well.

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[Xperia Z3 General] Moscow Desire:
KNOCK IT OFF PEOPLE!!!

Couple folks need to take a break from their keyboards for awhile. Show a little respect to each other, or kindly move along to something else.

Cheers

MD
[Xperia Z3 General] itsjustJOH:
Awww, I didn't get to read the reply. :(
[Xperia Z3 General] juanmaasecas:
I still prefer the iPhone... much more natural looking.
[Xperia Z3 General] Gustavo RD78:
Send from my Xperia Z3
[Xperia Z3 General] subhani:
It's true. Although for this shot, it failed to impress me, but if you saw the one of the red car, as somebody pointed out, the iPhone looked more 'natural'. I don't think it is to do with the colours.
[Xperia Z3 General] radicans:
No raw support

So lollipop is being rolled out finally. But no raw/dng support, as anticipated :(
[Xperia Z3 General] Venacephalica:
edited with snapseed...

DSC_0138_Snapseed_1 by venacephalica, on Flickr

DSC_0073_Snapseed by venacephalica, on Flickr

DSC_0115_Snapseed by venacephalica, on Flickr

and a low light one without editing

DSC_0007 by venacephalica, on Flickr
[Xperia Z3 General] undercover:
Hello there. This got somewhat stuck in my memory. Here you go, Lollipop is here yet direct API support is not, just as I said before.
[Xperia Z3 General] juanmaasecas:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...omparison-you-choose-the-better-phone_id67282
[Xperia Z3 General] One Twelve:
Basis for the underlined bit ?

And i said this a few days after
[Xperia Z3 General] kalealex:
This camera is phenomenal! Absolutely love it. The details it captures are so crisp.

Taken in manual 20mp

Sent from my D6603
[Xperia Z3 General] xxquicksh0txx:
Oh yah know... Just found a boost leak on my car.
[Xperia Z3 General] radicans:
Anyone in here updated to Lollipop already? Or does anyone know of a link with photo samples? Really curious to see if the photo quality has changed in any way.. Post processing, chromatic blur, white balance, pink spot, etc.

I'm really tempted to update right now, but holding off to see what initial reactions to lollipop are. Although I can't imagine photo processing being any worse than currently, it would be good to see some test photos before pulling the trigger.
[Xperia Z3 General] juanmaasecas:
No changes in Z2. Probably a little better low light, but same processing, same detail, same artifacts, etc.
[Xperia Z3 General] jonnytrix83:
Z3 lp
[Xperia Z3 General] jonnytrix83:
Locked bootloader and for me lost a bit in low Light conditions..(only my opinion)