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[Ornate TrueSmart] simple1i:
Are your buttons still broken?

Can you PM me please about your PayPal dispute with them buggers. [emoji6]. I have to wait until 5th Jan.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Gah73:
Does anyone know how I can do a factory reset when the watch is not responsive?
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
You can't.
[Ornate TrueSmart] pepesr:
Hi,

With the original flash I had (dated October 2014) I did: just wait for the battery to end, and then reconnect and press the two keys for a few seconds, follow instructions.

But now that I have moved to the ROM I downloaded here (see some post before) that is dated on August 2014, I cannot anymore.

Tip: to speed up the consumption of the battery in this mode, I put some scotch tape around the watch to keep the two keys pressed all time ;)
[Ornate TrueSmart] pepesr:
I am still looking for a recovery.img. Anybody can help?
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
The recovery image is included in that package.

I'm not helping any further, simply because I can't believe you expect me to have "new" firmware, which is no different than the "old" firmware, when I don't even own one.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Maszter93:
4.4 Firmware WORKS

Try this method

* I DON'T RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE TO YOUR WATCH, YOUR DAILY LIFE, OR ANYTHING AFFECTED BY THIS METHOD

you can flash unova ironman firmware, nothin need to be changed, rename factory_NONmodified_recovery.img to recovery.img then use this attached scatter and use firmware/upgrade

Use this TWRP Recovery (Credit to kuronosan) to root kitkat using this supersu update, put flashable zip in internal storage

Proof of ROOT Access check the attachment
[Ornate TrueSmart] pepesr:
Sorry, I did not see it before. I have tried with the ROM uploaded by Kuronosan, including at the recovery image. Still cannot manage to make it work correctly.

I confirm tha the rom that was packaged by the factory with my watch was newer and different. The main differences I can see are:

- the compilation date of my rom was November, the other is August

- the backup tool has its own icon in the launcher, while in my version there was no APP, and the backup was accessible from the system configuration menu

- there is an icon for the video recorder, in my ROM version there was only camera, with the option to record video or take pictures

- no icon to access to Downloads in my version

- the icon for some of the apps is different

- there was a kind of double side icon or widget to access to one of the apps that works in Chinese only.

With the one of Kuronosan, I have the following problems:

- the GPS is still never locking. It is something strange, I have the impression that the GPS starts working for few seconds and then it gets frozen. If it sees for example 9 satellites during this few seconds, then all GPS apps accessing the location services will see this 9 satellites. The time the GPS works is not enough to have a position lock.

- now the mobile does not work. It does see the mobile networks but does not get connected to any.

- WiFi works and I have not tried the BT.

- I have not managed to make Google Services and Google Play work.

A tip for those having problems with the boot, flash and so on. As you cannot remove the battery because of this Y screws, if the watch is blocked you need to wait for it to run out of batteries. This can take days (more than a week in some cases). The way to drain the battery to 0 is to keep the two pushed the two buttons for long time. I used some scotch around the watch and in few hours it will run out of battery completely.

When the batter is 0 and you connect it to you PC to flash the ROM, there is not enough power in to flash and charge the batteries. The flash process will stop. The best is to first leave it for 5 to 10 min connected to the USB port so the battery will have at least 2 or 3% of charge before you try to flash it. On the other hand, don't let it charge too much in case you need to discharge the battery again.

And pay attention to the magnetic connector. If you connect the USB side to your PC (or an adaptor) and then connect the watch, you make a short-circuit that could damage your USB port (even the main board of your PC). The best is to plug the watch first, and then the USB port.

Can somebody upload a newer ROM?
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
By the way, it works. I can't believe I never thought of using firmware upgrade in my tests.

Also, you need to include cache and user data in the upgrade or it won't work.
[Ornate TrueSmart] giol:
Kuronosan, do you think that the twrp recovery you posted could work also in the zgpax s8?
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Yes, but it likely won't recognize the partitions. I'll need to fix that.
[Ornate TrueSmart] giol:
If I can help with a scatter file or something else, I am available.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
It's not a scatter issue, it's a kernel thing.
[Ornate TrueSmart] knosalaa:
Callisto 300

Hello Kuronosan,

I have a Callisto 300 and would love to upgrade to 4.4 for obvious reasons. Other than sensors are there any other hardware components not working? Callisto 300 advertises both 1900 and 2100 bands. I live in US and use AT&T so 1900 is my 3g. Which Rom do i need to flash and what is the best way to do that? Could you please point me in the right direction?

Thanks a bunch

Knosalaa
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
I'll make a post outlining it but I'm pretty sure you'll lose 3G for now. Stay tuned, I'll be releasing a 4.4 ROM for the x201s.
[Ornate TrueSmart] knosalaa:
Great, thanks a lot. From the specs callisto 300 folks claim their modem hardware includes both 1900 and 2100 but as you know us at&t only uses 1900 so if your 4.4 firmware could include 1900 band and working sensors that would top off the list and make many folks very happy!!

Thanks again and i will stay tuned in this thread
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Only way sensors and modem can be fixed is if a 1900mhz device comes out or a custom kernel is built for those sensors, or if a similar device with similar sensors is released.
[Ornate TrueSmart] acidbr:
I have the 1.1 rom November 2014 watch iron man . I would like to help, but to publish the xda link requires me to publish at least 10 posts . Sorry for my English .
[Ornate TrueSmart] gerhardo:
Would be great with an update.

You can always put spaces or newlines in the url, so not the xda filter triggers.

The xda filter is to avoid spam and promotion.
[Ornate TrueSmart] acidbr:
https:// mega.co. nz/#!ihoXhLaR!3CZ6iZk3w5t7eqKYp3CJylhJBhBcRBWdGGEoWjSn1s0

Enjoy ;)
[Ornate TrueSmart] gerhardo:
Thanks

I tried it, it works.

Some notes:

* No problem installing, Firmware upgrade. I tried restoring my existing KK /data, but had to wipe it (popup in Chinese at startup).

* Default language is Chinese. Change i Settings, Personal (the heart), third option

* The device rebooted after about 30s, a message in Chinese and a countdown from 20 until rebooting. Changing to English fixed this after some tries.

Noticed differences to [MENTION=1337268]kuronosan[/MENTION] tweaked ROM (most mentioned in the announcement, he changed them I suppose):

* System info: Same baseband, kernelversion. Build number bumped from 1.0(1.1) to 1.1(2.2) 20141016.

* SuperSU by default

* Boot logo

* Default language is Chinese, some apps like App Permission stay in Chinese

* Limited settings, in the same way as in default ROMs

* Limited accessibility menu

* Some Chinese apps, like unova+.

* No Play by default

* Limited font sizes, Large&Small

* Changed partitioning, larger system partition

No noticed improvements in the ROM.

Is 1.1 2014-10-16 the latest version?

Thanks to [MENTION=2209473]acidbr[/MENTION] for providing this
[Ornate TrueSmart] Shonky*:
So sensors still not working? That would be the big one for me.
[Ornate TrueSmart] gerhardo:
No, the ROM is for the x202, so no changes.

There was an update to the unova+ app with English.

It crashes when trying Remote Camera though.
[Ornate TrueSmart] knosalaa:
What files needs to be flashed to change EU 2100mhz to 1900mhz modem. I'm currently on Kurosan's KK and can't use 3g in US. I do have stock omate firmware 4.2 which was for NA

Any help would be greatly appreciated
[Ornate TrueSmart] gerhardo:
There is no known 1900MHz baseband for KK (in this forum at least), the x202 is only released for 2100MHz.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
You CAN'T, if you've been following any of my threads you would have seen that JB stuff isn't compatible with KK stuff on MTK devices. The kernel drivers are linked between versions, so a baseband on JB will not work on KK firmware. You need a KK baseband.
[Ornate TrueSmart] bimbilo560:
new umeox

For me this watch would be ok. I have three Simvalley smartwatches and I am happy with it. If the Umeox has the same quality I would buy it.

There is only one important thing, the support, if I would have a problem !

One week ago I asked for an european software for my Unova Ironman (Umeox product) which unfortunately, has an cinese software, but Umeox did not reply. For me the support is important.

Can I see some fotos?
[Ornate TrueSmart] dev_null:
Did this thing ever get released
[Ornate TrueSmart] gerhardo:
UNova IronMan 2100 released already before this thread.

There is no 1900 version that I have seen though. This also seem to give problems for units upgraded from 4.2 to 4.4. For some it worked, other not.
[Ornate TrueSmart] simple1i:
Unova Ironman Generation 3?

Unova Ironman Generation 3 is being advertised. What makes this 3rd generation is the title.

http://www.made-in-china.com/showro...ation-3-320-320-Screen-Resolution-1G-8G-.html

Nothing but treachery from most of these Chinese sellers.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
It's upscaling.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ramihollings:
Just bought this from Amazon. Had it a week and it is far superior to the Omate Truesmart.
[Ornate TrueSmart] David42290:
It is a good watch... About sensors, all is ok?
[Ornate TrueSmart] ramihollings:
All sensors are working. Screen is 320*320. Haven't been able to root yet but so far everything is working well.
[Ornate TrueSmart] CPGOD:
try kingoroot - it may take ages but worked on my IM and clone
[Ornate TrueSmart] ramihollings:
Tried Kingoroot and let cycle through for a day with no luck. I also tried towel root and genius. The 4.4.2 version of towel root didn't scale properly so I was not able to execute it. Ill keep trying kingo. I really need to change the DPI.
[Ornate TrueSmart] simple1i:
What have they changed?
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Nothing. It's just a newer board.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ramihollings:
Any knew suggestions
[Ornate TrueSmart] pizzaman79:
After the horrible support and treachery of Omate? Why would any fool spend money on a product that will not offer half it promises with not customer service at all if it's broken or dead on arrival which often happens.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ramihollings:
Cause of the chance that this one will work perfectly. Kingo finally worked.

Just had to keep trying
[Ornate TrueSmart] -=xXx=-:
Do this watch have real 320x320 screen ? Can someone do firmware backup...

Thanks.
[Ornate TrueSmart] haybill:
Anyone know much about the 'new' Omate TrueSmart, that they are pushing out now?? Any idea what improvements there are over the original TS.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Shonky*:
Hardly difficult to find.

http://www.omate.com/smartwatch.omate.trueSmart+_spec.html

What items are actually delivered is another question.
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
As promised, heres the "unofficial" spec sheet on what being dubbed, as kuronosan pointed out

IRON MAN
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
The initial >500 unit order most likely is being bought by the normal Chinese vendors... Direct tech sites such as, Aliexpress, etc.

Once that initial run is done, I imagine you'll be able to get a unit from those suppliers or ones will start popping up on stateside SZ vendors and in the obvious channels, like eBay and Swappa.
[Ornate TrueSmart] simple1i:
No 3G for Europe? Let us know the release date once you know. Thanks.
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
No. These are the specs for the proposed NA version, EU version has its own...same except 3G 1900mhz is 2100mhz. Actually from what I understand, I believe the EU version is a matter of days that it'll be available thru the major sites. I think...if you know the right site, you can get one now. I just haven't bothered to do the research. Sorry. Maybe someone will post for you.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
I wonder if they'll allow me to sell them here for them with better-looking clocks and interface. You should ask them that. XD
[Ornate TrueSmart] simple1i:
What name do a search for to find it.?
[Ornate TrueSmart] notime2d8:
Yes, I will get one. The only thing that has been holding me back from getting a off brand smartwatch was the lack of us 3g.
[Ornate TrueSmart] jaskru:
"first" sale...
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
That EU watch is being sold under another "corp within a corp" called Unova... But seems to keep the title IRON MAN. Most likely will not be able to utilize that name in US tho...Timex would protect that IP.
[Ornate TrueSmart] simple1i:
It is this one for $ 199?

http://m.aliexpress.com/item-desc/2034108793.html
[Ornate TrueSmart] gangstaman:
miravision technology

thats it, the question is does it have miravision technology like the inwatch z, if so im in
[Ornate TrueSmart] simple1i:
Its a decent price too [emoji1] I've contacted the seller.

Ive only found one seller so far on AliExpress. Anyone foind other sellers?

How does this differ to the Omate in specs?
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
Good job... You're getting close!!!

However...

That IS one of the watches by Unova...yes...but, by not being able to read/find the specs, i cannot confirm whether or not this one is the 320x320, IP68 model...there's also a 240x240, IP67 version too.

As frustrating as this may be, there are two different versions that look identical, or at least have the same two available colors . Be sure that you get confirmation that this is the next gen model and not just another TS clone.

I've learned that these newer units are built to order. In other words, if a vendor places a large enough order...500+...they can dictate the band choices, band colors, bezel type/finish, and body. Also, supposedly, the IRON MAN is an upgraded model made with a special light weight steel that adds to the overall strength, but keeps the weight down.

So, that's what you need to confirm.

Word of caution:

Do you speak Chinese? If not, maybe you have a friend that does? Otherwise, if you do call, some of these SZ Direct tech website sales reps are water-boarded to always use the English word "YES", and will use it regardless of the question and the correct answer. So be careful. Shipping an item like this back to China is an expensive proposition and big headache. ?

Good luck, and keep us posted on what you find for the ROW folks.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
I'm in direct contact with them right now, so I can confirm everything he's saying is true.

You might be able to get a transflective or mirasol option, but their models are all TFT-IPS.
[Ornate TrueSmart] simple1i:
Thanks mghtymse007 and kuronosan.

User arovaris is very good at spotting new watches ...can you do your magic please. See previous 2 posts, can you please find this new watch assuming its out? Thanks.

...and anyone else too please [emoji106] [emoji1]
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
We've already found it. An early adopter got me the firmware at the risk of his warranty.
[Ornate TrueSmart] gangstaman:
Did he possibly say how I could obtain a transflective screen one? As this watch basically has the same specs as the inwatch z without the transflective display which is a big thing. Also once someone gets it please update posts about battery, I'm afraid the 320 by 320 will use a lot more battery life. Thanks
[Ornate TrueSmart] speedyink:
The specs in this link say it's 240x240 and ip67, so this is not the latest one.
[Ornate TrueSmart] simple1i:
It'll appear soon enough. As well as the battery life, need to test the companion app (if it comes with one or one from xda)

Should be the ideal watch a lot of folks are after.
[Ornate TrueSmart] gangstaman:
possible one?

http://m.alibaba.com/product/1327740069/product.html

Screen resolution is 320x240 according to the website
[Ornate TrueSmart] gangstaman:
Also is this some screen tilt feature or something I'm not aware of or am I just looking at the picture wrong? Tell me what u see
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
I think they're just trying to demonstrate the viewing angles.
[Ornate TrueSmart] speedyink:
Still says ip67 and 240x240 in specs section.
[Ornate TrueSmart] gangstaman:
In the details section it says otherwise
[Ornate TrueSmart] speedyink:
I see, it says ip67 and 320x240.

Maybe it's an in between model =P

Or just a typo, since 320x240 resolution doesn't make sense for a square screen, and the water resistance is still the old rating. They obviously have 320x320 on the mind though, so I guess it's coming real soon
[Ornate TrueSmart] gangstaman:
actual one

OK I have a strong feeling about this one, it says umeox brand at the top of the page also but it's water rating is still ip67 but it's 320x320, I have messaged the seller to confirm

http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/parishuang/product-detailCBZElyxAZPWD/China-Watch-Phone.html
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Yes, that's it.
[Ornate TrueSmart] simple1i:
Purchasing terms are T/T ...can we trust the seller? $160 ...Its a good price too or best to wait for a another seller.
[Ornate TrueSmart] gangstaman:
160 is a great price, in comparison to the inwatch and omate etc as this has better specs and is half the price, Still havnt received a reply yet from the seller. If someone buys this please download the screen resolution app and update us on if its actually 320x320

Also anyone figured out how this charges? Is it like the omate?

---------- Post added at 05:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:17 PM ----------

Also his last login date was over a month ago (22aug), meaning that this watch has been on the net for over a month:s doesn't seem like the one to me now haha
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
That's a fishing ad. As you most likely find out, that price is only good on orders of 500+ units or more. I can post the price breakdown I got from Umeox... If you want to see it. Ask for a sample... Will cost you $275
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Sample only costs $200.
[Ornate TrueSmart] simple1i:
Whats the difference between a sample watch and the retail watch?
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
Huh? For EU or NA? Or both?

Which department are you working with? Is that a special price direct to you?

So far, the $275 that we've been given seems to be non negotiable. In fact, I was told that in order to get to that price level, actually $220, an order of 201+ units must be placed.

Interesting...
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
Nothing. Supposedly.
[Ornate TrueSmart] simple1i:
Do you guys have pictures of the watch ...seems you know a lot about the new watch?

And can you get a sample for for $200 for one watch?
[Ornate TrueSmart] gangstaman:
Reading this forum answers all ur questions, yes u can get the watch for 200 and look at the links
[Ornate TrueSmart] tony_wk:
Yes guys I got hold of this watch for a while and now discovers that mine is a 240x240 version, I was told that 320x320 screen component will only be available after Oct so there will be 2 versions in the market at least for a while.

Interesting enough, not like the people in this forum thinks this is a better one than Omate, many people purchased hated this one because it doesn't function as advertised, mostly companion functions and also blamed all day the lack of official support and improvement. I was disappointed too but would like to give it a second chance hoping that if the HW is fine, there is always SW improvements can be made. Now the good news is the company doesn't give up support. They developed their own companion SW, I ever told them to try SWapps link, they did try it and found it is not stable, which is true for me as well. So they developed their own one. Not able to try it yet but at least a good sign. Seems they also know how to root but is reluctant to publish the method..

I think this watch's selling points are Android 4.4, 320x320, IP67. I questioned multiple times if the watch can support TF card, but the company guy wouldn't answer, once I finally opened the back plate, I am able to install 32G TF card. Battery wise some people reported being idle for 4,5 days(16 hours/day), I will try it soon by using GPS for a whole day cycling to see how it goes.

I ever lobbied the company guy to give several free watch to xda developers to extend the support, don't know if they decided to do, but if anybody do get a free watch, no harm to give me a thanks:D
[Ornate TrueSmart] gangstaman:
Thanks for all the feed back I got a few questions if you don't mind, firstly what's HW stand for? Did you order from the link I posted previously, also could you name the features it is lackly that separates it from the omate if you dont mind? And how did you discover the screen resolution, please download an app to check if you havent. Thanks for all the info you have gave us also the free XDA free watch shout out ;) hopefully some of us could get some haha

This was the reply I received from the buyer when I messaged them a week ago

thanks for your interest in our product. yes, 320*320 resolution. i sent you detailed spec to your email box. I assure you this is the highest quality smart phone watch at this price. Actually USD160 is our wholesale price not including the freight fee. you will be surprised especially when you hold it in person.
[Ornate TrueSmart] tony_wk:
KK4.4.2, MTK6572 1Ghz, 1G/8G, 3G WCDMA WIFI, IP67. Despite android system and water proof, I think it is same as Omate. this watch from the picture you can see there is a panel mounted with 4 special screws on top of the screen, don't really know why, Omate seems doesn't have it. The charger is different. this watch has a magnetic connector tie to the back of the watch, not the little case like Omate, good or bad depends. Screen resolution is tested by test app. Didn't buy it from the link, I got it from a special event. But $200 including free shipping is surprise to me. List price in major e-commerce web site could be around $275
[Ornate TrueSmart] simple1i:
You look at the link and show me the watch for 200 exactly as described by the OP? :cool:

...hence my question cuz there's no link to the actual watch.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
I'm going to email them again and ask if I can get a free sample for reviewing as part of XDA, to give them more exposure.
[Ornate TrueSmart] gangstaman:
There is:S look in this forum I've posted one:/
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
So far, I have yet to see a link, image, post, etc that proves the 320x320. I have lots of paperwork showing the proposed specs, band/color choices, and watch body materials.

Sure would like to see the 320x320 in person... And I'm sure I'm speaking for all of us!

AI Watch

Did anyone see the latest post from the AI Watch camp? The Ultra is benchmarking at S4 speeds. Not sure what that kind of power is gonna be for on a watch... But impressive nonetheless. Sure wish they upgraded the 240x240 to the 320. Would have made their watch more attractive to many... But the price, YIKES!!! I'm sure they'll come down quickly though, if you can wait.

Samsung Gear S

Saw the Gear S yesterday at the local ATT outlet. Very impressive all around. This watch has the best screen I've seen to date. However, Tizen and the tiny 300mah battery did seriously affect my interest. With less than 1k apps in that ecosystem and requiring a Samsung phone with 4.4 or higher to get those apps...again Samsung has created a great product, but limited its sales greatly.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
I don't see the AI watch being relevant by the time it hits the streets.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Bushrod:
That sounds familiar!
[Ornate TrueSmart] simple1i:
Can you please ask em, where & when we can purchase, price and its name.

Its my number 1 watch as the moment and the zgpax Z8 being number 2.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
It's called the Iron Man.