yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] shogunmark:
good point, i had that problem once also, forgot all about it
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MikeChannon:
Just a note of caution!!! This is related to the screen alignment issue i.e. the touch sensitive area of the screen continuing beneath the bezel and causing unwanted touches whether through dust or the sticky gasket in there.

May not return, or will be cured again by the "business card" fix / or as you did a firm clean to release the screen from touching the bezel.

But, it's a question for you, if you only have 5 days left under warranty. Most people with the SA problem find the first signs appear in the first couple of weeks. I would certainly put it through it's paces, open up a few applications leave wifi on so it heats up, surf web over wifi etc etc as the added bit of heat generated internally was a known factor in exacerbating the problem. If all stays well over next couple of days maybe it'll be OK.

Would be good to get urgent feedback from anyone with a newer Hermes who's had this issue and what happened.

Mike
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] aroundlsu:
Argh, it's back. OK, I'm certain it's a touchscreen problem and not a button sticking as holding down OK will not cause the start menu to pop up while an application is up and holding the windows key will not close an app. Also the problem is delayed if I hold the stylus down on the screen. It's just the upper right (portrait mode) of the screen that is getting the errant screen tap (about three or four times a second).

I've ran a business card through the edges and it doesn't help. I'm not going to take this thing apart. I did that several times with the 2125 to fix unresponsive keys and joystick but the problems always reappear. My one year old 2125 is barely functional now. My g/f would rather keep her crap LG flip phone then inhieret the 2125 after watching me battle it. That's pretty sad.

I'm going to try a hard reset (second one in three weeks) and if that doesn't help I'm returning it to Cingular and getting my money back. Then I'll either buy another one or a blackjack. I like the 3g and love this device. It's my third Windows Mobile 5.0 product. I don't like the sub-par build quality on my second HTC product now. I paid $599 plus tax for this phone at a local Cingular store (despite the web store saying $550).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MikeChannon:
My advice for what it's worth is take it back. This screen business has a habit of coming and going and it's entirely possible you hard reset and everything is fine and two weeks later it's back. Also would be better to return with the issue present (not that they wouldn't believe you -would they?)

On the whole though this problem is much more rare than it was, so if you do get the same device again hopefully you will be luckier. If you get directly from shop though check the firmness of the key board clicking into place that seems to still be fairly common problem.

Not the best start to the new year!!

Mike
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] aroundlsu:
Well I got desperate and hard reset... I could barely get past the screen alignment startup so needless to say that didn't fix things. Having gone this far and thoroughly pissed at having to reinstall everything I decided to loosen those screws on the back and run a card around the edges.

So far, it's working! I'm not content settling on this hack though so I'm bringing it back Tuesday and will update on my experience at the retail store (not looking forward to that).

Happy new year and thanks for all the super fast responses guys!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mccreath:
Alignment

I was browsing the www the other day and saw a korean/ japanese site showing the inside of these precious devices, and (as pointed out above) how the seal/ gasket underneath the bezel is the root cause of our anguish.

There were some detailed pics of how you can DIY, and remove the gasket, but it's no where near me basic level of competency.

Why would they design a touch-screen to big for the device I wonder???

:confused:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] shogunmark:
there is also the business card trick about sliding it underneath the edges to loosen the gasket... there is a whole thread on this screen alignment issue
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] johniz1967:
what site shows how to fix the gasket?

There is a post about someone seeing a site showing how to fix the gasket proplem on the touch screen. Could I please get the URL??
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MikeChannon:
Look down this page. Keep in mind non of the theoretical solutions is guaranteed/

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Problems

Mike
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] aroundlsu:
Just got back in from my local Cingular store and actually had a pleasant, hassle-free experience exchanging my 8525 for a brand new one. I explained to the CSR the issue and she immediately understood the problem (must not be the first guy walking in there about this).

Unfortunately, she didn't have any in stock but merrily called around and found six others in stock at nearby stores. So off I went to the next store and had the old 8525 exchanged for a new one in less then ten minutes. The CSR didn't even bother to look at the old phone or check the accessories I returned with it.

The new 8525 is syncing up as I write this and immediately I notice some things are different. First of all, written on the side of the box is 12/26. So we know this phone is probably brand new. The keyboard does indeed click in and out more firmly then my old one. The USB cable plugs in tighter (a good thing, I was always getting USB connection problems), and lo and behold Windows Vista installed HTC sync drivers then Media Player automatically recognized the device (never did any of that on the old one).

I'm using the Windows Mobile Device Center Beta on Vista RTM and it just finished syncing without any problems. Moral of this story is if your 8525 is experiencing any problems at all and you are within 30 days, return it for a hassle free refund.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MikeChannon:
Good news and you're absolutely right about getting it back within warranty if there's a fault.

Great stuff!

Mike
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] shogunmark:
since your appears to be new from 12/26.. i am curious what firmware is on that phone.. details please
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] wedgesurfer:
Cingular 8525 touch screen no working

I am having a problem with the touch screen on my 8525. My phone was working fine then the then the screen stopped responding. I was able to navigate via keyboard but that was it. I did a soft reset and it did not help. I then did a hard reset and the screen went to the setup and wants to align the screen which obviously I cannot do.

The changes I have made the same day prior to it not working are as follows:

-Unlocked with Hermes SIM Unlock

-Installed latest Cingular ROM

-Installed fit4cat Hermes Tweaker v1.1a

The phone worked fine for about 12 hrs before the touch screen stopped working.

Any suggestions?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] crazyut:
Hey there, I have had the problem before (about 3.5 weeks ago). I had to send it in for service (since I am not a Cingular customer anymore but use the 8525 with T-mobile).Good luck.
[Micromax A110] shivangshukla:
I am indian user of micromax a110 i install a custom rom in my phone and did not make nandroid back now i wanna go back to stock android 4.2.3 how to go back.
[Micromax A110] vishalgc:
:mad::mad: As for your kind information there is no stock 4.2 for our beloved Canvas 2 buddy. Stock firmware for Canvas 2 are 4.1 and 4.0 currently. :mad::mad:

And if you wanna go to stock ROM 4.1.1 or 4.0.4 then reply here I'll help you if face any difficulty

Correct me if I'm wrong :D

:) Hit Thanks if I Helped you :)
[Micromax A110] shivangshukla:
ya i wanna go to stock to 4.1.1 is there any nandroid back up of 4.1.1 stock rom..

if yes give me the link i will do it.
[Micromax A110] shivangshukla:
Flashing the rom which is given in this link will take me back to stock...?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2376667
[Micromax A110] vishalgc:
Yes bro that's the right thread download the zip sptool drivers and follow the right instructions given in thread

Hit thnkx if anyone helps you :D
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gambler_3:
I bought a Moto G when it had gotten really popular I thought development would be great on it. Its been anything but great.

Is Motorola the reason for it? Like are they not providing all the tools that the devs need? Or there are simply not enough good devs working on the phone?
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madman:
Motorola is providing optimized software which is more than enough for most of users and devs...

Also you have official supports for some famous roms..

If development means porting touchwiz and sense themed roms then sorry.. You might never see that happening..
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eddydc1:
Poor? We have FAUX KERNEL! Also we have many good devs working for ROMs like Quarx and many more..

But yeah, stock roms is very good, so not everyone want custom rom

Buy some cheap chinese phone, then you know what is poor developement..
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gambler_3:
There is no stable CM, most custom ROMs have terrible audio quality. I came from the Nexus S so my frame of comparison is not a Chinese phone.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eddydc1:
Quarx CM11 is stable if you ask me. And about audio quality, i never had such problems ( i use V4A though )
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vhngu930:
crDroid should be stable enough. Just notice that bugs with xposed are not supported
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gambler_3:
Ya using an audio mod is a different thing, out of the box most roms have significantly worse audio than stock rom and devs just don't seem to give a damn about that.

Officially CM is still stuck at M6.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andogeek10:
I found that in my case custom ROMs have a much better audio quality than stock, but that's just my experience.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Quasar:
Poor development? There is almost every ROM available for the Moto G. Officially or Unofficially. I was looking for a ROM to build, but after going through countless forums, I still couldn't find much that isn't already there for the Moto G. The developers are active too. What more could you ask for?
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gambler_3:
Having a ROM and having a good ROM are 2 different things. I have used CM which was never stable and I have used Gummy ROM which had poor audio. I made a thread asking for a stable ROM with stock like audio and people said there is no such thing. Is that not enough?
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sub77:
hava look at liquidsmooth
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hhp_211:
If you are that much of an audiophile why did you choose a mid-level phone?

Viper4android is a valid tool
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MiyagiSan:
This comment made me chuckle.

Audiophile...whoo!! :laugh:
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gambler_3:
Who said anything about being an audiophile? Expecting custom roms to have at least as good sound quality as the stock out of the box experience is not being an audiophile.

Mind you the Moto G has one of the best audio quality of 2013 phones. It's better than a lot of flagships.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Quasar:
I'm running out of time these days.. Let's see.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vhngu930:
What audio problems do you have? I've never had any

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Or if you don't like the ROMs, just go back to stock.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gambler_3:
Low volume in custom ROMs. Yes I am running stock ROM now.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OldYellowBricks:
Well audio is notably lower in loudness when compared to stock. Short to say, its degraded from stock rom. It's not a matter of low end mid end high end phone.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hhp_211:
I know on mine if i get higher than 7-8 clicks of full volume the speaker is breaking up too bad to enjoy music..

This registers about 70 - 74 db with this tool

sound metre lite

I've not listened to a stock ROM, but that wouldn't matter if it gets louder because speaker hardware isn't capable of handling it.

Currently running yoshi's du unofficial with fixed dsp manager app

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[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ofaring:
agreed

I bought the Moto G while working for a phone company because it's an amazing phone for the price. I also thought it would have healthy ROM development. Now, though, either dhacker doesn't have the time to work on it, or CM seems to have abandoned the device in favour of bigger and better things. (Fair enough if they have. There are 80 million Android devices out there, and they now have their business to support.) In either case, another dev needs to take over, or CM needs to take it off their "official" list.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hhp_211:
And with v4a installed i actually can't turn up db much higher than 78-80

at full volume, but it's not breaking up hardly at all. Maybe not the most scientific testing but it's still all the hardware is going to let it do.

Any louder and speaker can and handle the volume...

Unless I'm really just missing something what else are you wanting it to do?
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hhp_211:
Dhacker is not with cm anymore.

He is with gummy.

We have nearly every style ROM available for falcon yet somehow this is considered no development??!!

So why would you insult other devs like this

SMH :banghead::screwy::confused:
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andogeek10:
ROMs other than CM are also available. And according to me, the ROM development is pretty good. Of course it is not comparable to a nexus, but it is still pretty good. For example, just yesterday falcon got official support from another ROM, Dirty Unicorn. Also today a new ROM , brokenOS was released.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jorge_007:
I've never bothered with a custom ROM/Kernel on the Moto G, so I wouldn't know how the third-party development is doing. If you want a fully working ROM with no hiccups just use Stock+Xposed. The custom kernels here are nice and all, but I got the same battery life with the stock kernel. I had a bad experience with a custom kernel from here where google maps kept crashing and locking up my phone while driving in the freeway. It was very frustrating not knowing if I'm going the right way. Anyways, you should try Viper4Android. It works well with stock. You don't have disable LPA like it says, so it's great for battery life. Maybe third-party development will get "better" once the Moto G reaches end of life.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gambler_3:
Yes you are missing the fact that nobody was talking about speaker loudness....

Volume through earphones is SIGNIFICANTLY lower on custom ROMs compared to stock ROM.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gambler_3:
Yes I am now using stock ROM with Xposed and pretty satisfied with it. I am also very much satisfied with the audio of stock ROM so I can do without any mod.

I just hope all that customization/root doesn't get broken after Android L update because that is essentially the sort of thing I hate about modding stock ROMs.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hhp_211:
No one said we went either.

I re-read thru all the pages and i never once saw a mention of headphones...

Just checked again with my Shure se102 in ears which are at least 5 years old.

Full volume held at phones microphone, same song registered consistent 80-85 db

again can't see needing more than that directly to the ear.

Oh well, I'm happy with my phone and you are happy with yours.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] methuselah:
creating too many devices with xt makes it sick

some people are frustrated because there is confusion for some people regarding how to get xt1032 ROMS work on xt1033 .ITs also the same case for me. As moto belong to Google there should be support like nexus like devices though it is never going to possible. from my perspective we will start getting stable and rightful working builds after 2014 may be in the mid of January. There will be more lag in the development because motog 2nd edition is out here for people. so new devs who hold that device will work on it.. overall it is too confusing for people for newbie devs to understand this kind of things.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pico hackr:
of course rom development is pretty good but what about dual sim xt1033 it gets very less rom comparing to single sim models , even cyanogenmod 11 works in single sim model at first later they added dual sim support my doubt is why cant they add the support in other roms , Gummy rom is based on AOSP dhacker added dual sim support to it , if its possible why others cant.

if users ask does this rom have dual sim support they just reply convert to gpe , then whats the use of getting a dual sim mobile ?
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boros2222:
If our phone has big development, then why don't we get mostly stable snapshots from CyanogenMod?

If other phones got M8, M9 versions, then why don't we get?

That's all I miss in Moto G.

Almost all custom roms are based on CM11 nightlies that makes almost every rom buggy.

If CM release snapshots, then Moto G would have many stable custom roms.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Quasar:
There are unofficial snapshots... And the snapshots aren't being released because of bugs that need to be fixes. Ours isn't the only phone with missed releases due to bugs.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boros2222:
Where can I get unofficial snapshots?

If other developers can fix these bugs to make unofficial snapshots, then why can't CyanogenMod?
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Quasar:
Because the official CyanogenMod snapshots are not made by the developers themselves. They're made by a buildbot... Plus, it's not entirely that easy... You can check out Percy_g2's unofficial CM thread for snapshots.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boros2222:
I'm curious. How does buildbot work?
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Quasar:
Well, you just set up a PC in such a way that it automatically syncs repos and throws out builds and uploads them as frequently as you set it to. I think Jenkins does that for CyanogenMod. Not sure.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gambler_3:
I believe official requires a higher standard of stability than unofficial.

Previously M builds were supposed to be less stable than RC and 'stable' releases so initially we got M builds for Moto G even though they weren't actually completely stable. But now CM has declared M builds as the official stable release channel and so the standard required for an M release is much higher now I believe.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hekomat:
Stock rom with xposed/gravitybox is just too perfect.. I had a xperia mini, xperia ray and the stock was awful.. Hated the sony Ui and icons (the dialer icon looks like a ******* shower head!), so I flashed many roms. Flashing since gingerbread all the way to kitkat.. Then i had the nexus s, stock was pretty ok, but i flashed a different rom every week..

I bought the moto g for many reasons, but the top priority was lots of roms available. But when I got it, I liked tge stock so much that I didnt even root and unlock bootloader the first few days! Eventually i did miss some fearures like customizable quick settings and whatnot so I unlocked and rooted, and went for xposed&gravitybox. I also flashed the faux kernel and freezed some moto-bloatware and now Im extremely satisfied with this beast of a phone:)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markdapimp:
Do you guys think LG will Repair (RMA) a Nexus 5 with loose sleep/wake or power button whatever you call it

Also it's making an audible click noise when pressing it, while before it didn't do that.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] jtekky:
hello, ive been searching everywhere, i finally got to load Recovery using the fix.tar but everytime im in recovery and i select install zip sdcard, my phone keeps rebooting, any help is greatly appreciated....
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] jpisini:
Have you checked the sdcard? If it reboots when you access it, it may be the culprit.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] jtekky:
everytime i tried it would reboot, but before i gave up i was able to access it but i lost all my zip files. So i tried to Odin but i would get a fail.. after sboot it would give me the nand write faile. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I tried most file but it would give me the same result.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] jtekky:
back on board... finally got it to flash using the mc2 stock files by billaird? to 4.1.2, now my question is using the Classic stock ne2 4.4.2 by chaz, do i do it from Odin? or can i odin philz.. then do it from philz recovery? thank you
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] g_money:
I *think* chaz's is just the rom, and can be flashed through philz. Personally I would do the upgrade with garwynn's stock tar from here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2780984

Of course then you need to reflash recovery and reroot...

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[Moto X Q&A] xtrmlydsturbdbob:
So here's the deal, I unlocked my T-Mobile Moto X bootloader through Motorola's website about a year ago or so. I also rooted and didn't bother updating afterwards to anything since I had everything working perfectly for me. Now I need to update my 4.2.2 Moto X to 4.4.3 (or really anything >=4.3 just so I can use my Moto 360 that'll be arriving soon).

My question is, with an unlocked bootloader, rooted, TWRP 2.6.3.1, Xposed-installed Moto X, can I go ahead and flash a stock 4.4.3 ROM (for example from here: http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/development/rom-stock-flashable-t-mobile-t2773675) and just call it a day?

I've been reading past threads and stuff to get back into the loop, but I just can'f find anything to answer me the simple question of updating an unlocked+rooted 4.2.2->4.4+ while keeping root. Just the simple question of, if I get a stock 4.4 image and flash it on my phone, will everything be okay?

I no longer have the passion and interest to constantly be fiddling with kernels, ROMs, and little hacks with my phone like I used to with my OG Droid and, to a lesser extent, with my Galaxy Nexus (plus I feel like it's gotten significantly less easy since those OG days).

I know (i.e. 90% sure) that one way to do what I want (kinda) is RSDLite/manually go back to stock without root on 4.2.2 and then accept the OTA, but certainly it has to be easier than that right? What happened to the days where I can just find a new Gingerbread ROM for my Froyo Droid and just flash it right then and there? Now everything is "go back to stock and do these convoluted steps."

(I'm sorry I'm ranting, I'm just really tired at the moment haha)

Thank you all, hopefully, for the help!
[Moto X Q&A] nhizzat:
If you don't care about retaining your data, grab the 4.4.3 fxz and unzip it. Follow the directions for returning back to stock here: http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/general/ref-complete-moto-x-guides-information-t2603358 but replace the files to be flashed with the files from the 4.4.3 fxz. Not sure where you got the idea that you need to go back to stock. Word of caution, once on 4.4.3 there's no going back to an older version.
[Moto X Q&A] RGNDI:
I have the same question as the OP, on unlocked rooted 4.2.2 ATT Moto X, can i flash a custom 4.4.4 and keep root?
[Moto X Q&A] 1ad_m12:
You can take the ota but you need the stock recovery. Since you are unlocked you will not lose your unlocked-ness(lol) if you take an ota. But you do need to be completely stock: no su, no custom recovery, etc etc. But once you upgrade to 4.4.3 getting root back is as simple as flashing the appropriate version recovery again and then flashing supersu.