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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] JBDX1319:
I actually just brought this up over in the original Z3 forum (Just wanted to come check out this thread for fun considering their similar phones, saw your post and thought I would provide some feedback).

Not exactly standby, but screen on time of 20 minutes, couple Snapchats sent and 45 minutes of music played or so and it was down to 86% after 1 hour 15 minutes off charger.

Current status is 83%, 4h 50m, 37 screen on time. This is all on WIFI, mobile data turned off, brightness at about 20%, Stamina Mode. Beyond that initial start to the morning, battery seems to do decently well.

Just thought I would share.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Bobb_o:
I'm considering resetting my phone because I am not getting what I got this phone for. I'm getting about the same battery life as my Lumia 925...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] NisseGurra:
Rooted, my slim rom, autobrightness, sync active.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] punkyd:
11 sot,its insane :)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Zanr Zij:
To be honest, you can reach that time when you almost do nothing. Just open the phone or do something like watching a lite video :)

He lost too much awake time.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] NisseGurra:
No, almost no wakelocks, rest of the awake time was due to musicplayer.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] squadz:
I feel bad showing this, I've been very happy with the battery life.

http://imgur.com/mXnulXC

http://imgur.com/Nr0QX3h

http://imgur.com/dlkfk5z

It's still going. Trying to find creative ways to deplete the battery. It's been off the charger since 8-9 AM Saturday morning.

Stamina mode on, auto brightness, no location on. Ask anything else you want to know.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Feneroin:
[MENTION=4955581]squadz[/MENTION]

Only 5hours on screen. This is a little normal I think...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] squadz:
SOT doesn't tell the whole story, cause it's almost 2 days battery life (well, now it is, I'm only at 24% still.) and 5 hours on screen.

Could easily hit 7 at least, most likely more. I'm impressed.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] snrbobo:
Nice! If you don't mind me asking, what did you do to slim down the ROM other than freezing or removing apps.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] graffixnyc:
I never get the battery life others are reporting on any device. lol I wonder what I do so differently?(rhetorical) I have a bunch of email accounts that sync (3 gmail and then 3 pop3) right now I'm at 7 hours uptime and screen on for 1 hr 38 minutes and I'm at 44%. I am only on my 3rd or 4th chrage though
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Takuneru:
Personally, i'm really impressed by the battery life so far. The first charge got me 7h sot on heavy usage (downloading, syncing, playing, setting things up...).

And just yesterday i did a battery test of pretty heavy usage again with 10% brightness all the time, playing for at least 5 hours, reading stuff, browsing, wathing videos... And here is the result:

Coming from an Xperia S, that's amazing... Don't you think?

My settings are 3g/2g, wifi on most of the time, airplane mode toggled when sleeping, NFC always on. I disabled stuff i don"t use.

Sent on my Xperia Z3 compact
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] boojay:
Is anyone else experiencing faster than usual drain once the battery drops below 20% or so? Even when switching to stamina and/or low battery mode, I'm finding it just plummets like Eddie Murphy's career. Overall, I'm still getting great battery life, but I'm disappointed that I'm not able to squeeze out that extra bit towards the end once I get the low battery indication. Basically, if I go below 30%, I know I'm screwed.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] unk3:
Haha i know what you mean. I have a moto x and I get about 2 hours screen on time on about 11 hours uptime before i hit 15%. And everyone else brags about their 3-5 hours screen on time...

I like bright displays, i like wifi always on, I like my weather and emails synced.. Im guessing these people have like everything set to low.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] graffixnyc:
Same thing on my Moto X 2nd Gen. Lol I know a lot of people cripple their phones for better battery life but then what's the point of having a smartphone? Lol
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] boojay:
Nice summary, but this is the most glaring error in your review. SOT is by far the most important aspect of battery life, more so than idle time which, in turn, contributes to and is more important than total uptime.

I'm pretty sure I speak for most when I say the purpose of having a phone is to use it and by no other metric is that most accurately measured than by SOT. Yes, we all use our phones differently with various brightness, apps, and settings, but for each individual, it's important for him to be able to use his phone as much as possible per charge and that usually means having the screen on, so I'm not sure why you would disregard such a vital criterion.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] ShadowFlare:
Battery-peen is the e-peen of Smartphones :)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Feneroin:
Thanks [MENTION=6116985]Sikatsirx[/MENTION] for your post!

I will have my Z3C thursday I think and your post is useful for me
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Crewville96:
I listen to Pocket Casts a LOT. Like 3-4 hours a day. My SoT during those 3-4 hours is probably like 5 minutes if that.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Sikatsirx:
You can have a z3c running from 100% to 1% in 16h with 4h SOT. And you can have a z3c running from 100% to 1% in 3 days with 4h SOT.

SOT alone isn't an indicator. Its how you use the phone while on SOT that dictates how high your SOT will be. Only the User him self , knows if that SOT time of his, is good or bad. You have to pay attention to everything in order to have a view. SOT + SOT battery overall percentage. And all the other battery drain analysis to determine if SOT is good or bad. Usually we don't have the whole picture from 1-2 ss. Only each individual user knows.

That's what i meant and i already explained that on my first post. A smartphone nowadays can drain battery with so many different ways, that SOT it self doesn't indicate anything.

That's IMO ofc.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] boojay:
You've essentially just supported my argument. The SOT remains the same in both cases, meaning you can stretch the total uptime to as much as you want, but in your example, you're limited to 4 hrs SOT, so either you use your phone heavily in one day, or spread it over two, which is why it's so important. The uptime doesn't matter because I can just leave my phone be and have it last for 7 days, but that doesn't mean anything if I'm not using my phone. Why else do you think so many people in this thread are complaining about not getting 6-7 hours SOT like many of us who are and praising the battery life thanks to that very stat?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Sikatsirx:
The 4h SoT was just an example, i kept the 4h SoT the same on those examples.

Another example is when you have z3c 16h battery life with 4h SoT and z3c 36h battery life with 6h SoT . Both are doable, depending what exactly are you doing with the phone during SoT. i don't know why is hard to understand it. If i open xbmc and whats a movie or watch a live streaming football match, i will have 1,5h SoT loosing 30% battery. If i am reading articles or chatting on FB for 1,5h i will loose 10% battery. Same SoT different battery consumption . What that 1,5h SoT tell yous then ?? if i use my SoT for fb and chating , i will get an estimated 6h SoT and 2 days battery life. If i use my SoT for videos and games, i will get 4h SoT and 20h batter life. A Very high SoT with many hours of battery life, it is encouraging in did. Better the phone to be able to do this, than not be able to do it. But same phone, if i heavily use it, it will give me half the SoT and half the battery life hours. So an ss of a SOT can be misleading.

The main differences in all those SS in this thread, comes from 3 things. Different use of the phone, different settings and wakelocks.

You can play with settings, configure things, and reduce wakelocks, maximize deep sleep time when screen is off, but you have to use the phone as you want to use it. No compromises there.

Now After having this phone for 10 days i can say it has great battery life.

If you make sure you don't have any unnecessary wakelocks draining battery and keeping phone awake, then i can guarantee you that what ever SoT and battery life you are getting with your kind of use, it will be higher than with any other (z3c size) phone, with same use.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] boojay:
I appreciate that you seem to think your examples (which are far too specific, btw) support your argument, but they actually don't. The reason your logic doesn't make sense is because you're basically saying using the phone isn't important, when it is, there's simply no way around that. Yes, everyone uses his phone differently and will get different results as a consequence, but that doesn't change the fact that being able to use your phone longer (i.e. typically measured by SOT) is preferred.

Each person will gain a sense of how long his battery life will last through daily usage, whether that be 3-8 hrs SOT or whatever. Again, if I don't touch my phone, of course it's going to last a ridiculously long time, but then what's the point? Why don't I just turn my phone off then? This is why SOT is so important because it gives the user the best gauge of how long he'll be able to use his phone for on the average day through habitual use.

I can already anticipate that you will disagree with this, but those are simply the facts. As I'm typing this out right now, my phone is on, my screen is on, and I'm using my phone, that's what matters, not the fact that I can leave my phone off for hours and artificially inflate my numbers because then I won't have done anything with my phone.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] dukka37:
I've just take pics at auto mode only, the quality and details are nice but the color is a little bland, I've had to edit saturation

After two weeks of owing this phone, with 3g or wifi always on to sync with Viber, Skype, Whatsapp, FB, Emails and FB Messenger, the SOT is almost always stable at 6h to 6h30, with screen set to Auto adaptive

I will put my usage screen pics on very soon :D
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] ShadowFlare:
And also please tell us whether yours is a Snapdragon or an Exynos.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] dukka37:
Hi, Im not quite understand what you mean, it is a Snapdragon, but doesn't all Z3 Compacts have Snapdragon? :confused:
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] ShadowFlare:
Oh oops, my bad. I've been following Z3C compact and Note 4 threads, and I guess I thought I was writing in the Note 4 thread.

Ignore my previous post please :p
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Sikatsirx:
I hear music on my headphones with my screen off. I Am using my phone. I am doing all day calls with Bluetooth headset while screen is off. I am using my phone. There many ways to use your phone with screen off. There is SoT, and there is Battery life. Those two are not the same.

SoT can be low, it can be high , it can be average depending on the use. .Battery life isn't measured by SOT alone. Battery life is the whole experience. Is how long your phone will last, doing what you want to do with it. Sot measured in hours. Battery life in this phone can be measured in hours or days. Depending the use.

How high SoT you think you will have, if your phone is loosing 3% on each hour that screen is off doing nothing ? Battery life isn't measured by SoT. I can have a very good battery life for my kind of use, with only one hour SoT. Battery life is measured by how the phone deals with power consumption on all of his states. Not only Screen on state. Idle times, deep sleep time, playing music, making phonecalls, how it controls its services and the way they consume power, and how it handles the wakelocks you may have. How it handles the power on Wifi, on gps, on nfc. How it handles Cell signal and power on the antena. Each phone its not the same of how it handles power consumption. SoT its just too general, to be a measure of anything simply because you may be doing things with your smartphone, with the screen off.

SoT can be measure battery life though, if you put a pattern of use, on different phones, to test battery life. But all phones should follow same use pattern.

As the battery life tests do on review sites. Put a specific pattern of power consuming activities, with screen on and off depending the activity,on all phones usually stock settings, to measure battery life.

"SOT alone isn't an indicator. Its how you use the phone while on SOT that dictates how high your SOT will be. Only the User him self , knows if that SOT time of his, is good or bad. You have to pay attention to everything in order to have a view. SOT + SOT battery overall percentage. And all the other battery drain analysis to determine if SOT is good or bad. Usually we don't have the whole picture from 1-2 ss. Only each individual user knows.

That's what i meant and i already explained that on my first post. A smartphone nowadays can drain battery with so many different ways, that SOT it self doesn't indicate anything."

Just copy paste my previous post. I am getting the feeling you are not reading my posts, or my English are not good enough. I don't know.

The only fact is that we see things from very different prospective. I wont try to debate this any more as i feel that we are spamming this thread with no obvious reason. So that's it for me, regarding this matter. I stated my views and they where always IMO only.

Cheers :)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] masands:
iPhone always shows the total usage time rather than SoT. If you were to count SoT on my iPhone 5, you would get around 3 hours whereas usage would be 6-7 hours. I've heard the iPhone 6 is not much better, around 3-3.5 hours according to MKBHD.

Be thankful that out Z3c's are getting around 6 hrs! That's iPhone 6+/Note 4 territory in such a compact phone.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] NakedGun:
Here is my battery usage. Pretty OP when it lasts three days. Used it only to listen music and email and calls texts whatsapp and so on, didn't play any games. With game like clash of clans added to the usage battery lasts two days with out problem. This is the best phone.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] khalisz:
Hi :)

Here's my results for today.

4G / 3G all day.

Call, sms/mms, facebook messenger.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] wah007:
I have been keeping an eye on my battery and when watching a video on youtube on mobile data I have noticed that the battery goes down by 1% every 5 minutes (all stock settings and screen brightness on 40%).

In standby it was on 80% before I went to sleep and after waking up 7 hours later it was down to 79%, so it used only 1%. I didnt have any power saving modes enabled, 3g mobile data was on and queueing background data was off.

How does this look guys, are you getting the same results?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Katsigaros:
I use it 3-4 days with normal use and i always enable stamina mode at night and disable it in the morning.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] getdunexpected:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/quick-charger-ep881/

Sony has come up with it's own Quick Charger!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] jesusrop:
This is wit little usage (only 2h 15m of screen use), data and wifi all the time except during the nights. 3g network all the time, but no 4g.

Stamina mode is always on.

Pretty happy with it!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] wah007:
Does quick charging affect the life of the battery in any way?

I have a Magnector magnetic cable, if I connect it to this quick charger will it still charge fast?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] catskin:
Battery is in line with my expectations... about 3-3.5hrs SOT based on my usage, and 3 days battery life.

However I've managed to get an unusually high usage from Google Maps, despite barely using it. 72% total usage, GPS used 1d 22h 33m 44s (strange coincidence?!). I also actually have the GPS turned off all the time. Is this a case of inaccurate reporting?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] dukka37:
Have you turned location off or to battery saving?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] catskin:
Yes, location switch is turned to off.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Eason85:
I have had similar issues with GPS stuck on even after it's supposed to be off, draining battery. You'll have to restart the phone to get it to shut off. It seems to happen with apps which require location not terminating properly and never releasing the location hold.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] catskin:
Thanks, seems plausible. Just restarted my phone.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] aod4:
I have installed Greenify and Snapdragon Battery Guru but I hardly see any significance. My phone is non rooted, and I am not sure if these apps are needed. This is my first experience with a premium range smartphone, what should I do to check if my battery is working fine or not?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Eason85:
I'm not sure why but even when the phone is not "awake" according to the battery graph, I still get a steady drain of about 1% an hour. I remember on my Z1 C it would be literally flat while the phone was not awake, but here I get a slight drop. :/
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] wah007:
When I got my Z3C I had installed all my apps and had charged it for the second time, the phone was on 90% before I went to sleep and 7-8 hours later checked and it was on 89%. I was very impressed but am not getting the same battery life anymore. Now it will go down by 6-8% over this time.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Bobb_o:
Out of curiosity people who are on T-Mobile in the US, are you getting great battery life?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] snrbobo:
I have a z3c on T-Mobile and I'm on LTE most of the time. I'm getting great battery life. Not rooted (I'm getting anxious though). Ran the pm block via adb to block a few apps from running... Nothing crazy though. All in all I've been able to get roughly 4 to 5 hours of screen time and at least a full day of use.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] catalindan:
I got the quick charger in my box and in deed it's charging very fast. I am using it with a magnetic cable and with a meter on it says it does 1.5A. However, I didn't get the noise cancelling headphones which is a shame ...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Bobb_o:
Using which firmware? I'm wondering if me not using the US firmware has anything to do with it.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] snrbobo:
23.0.A.2.105

it updated as soon as i popped in my sim. i had .93 to start i think. i didn't get a chance to see if the firmware had anything to do with the battery life.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] punkyd:
i did an experiment if i can say so,before going to bed i have disabled manually WiFi,mobile data and auto sync in the morning i had 1% loss of battery.

with stamina activated(of course WiFi,mobile data and auto sync on) in the same scenario i had 5% loss.

i don't understand why with stamina activated which is supposed to do what i did manually i have 5% loss instead of 1% overnight.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] robertkoa:
Curious about the quick.charger because I remember a

Review saying about 3.5 hours to fully charge .

So with quick charger it is how long ?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] punkyd:
Mine is charging(with stock charger) from 15%-100% in 2h:35min on the magnetic dock.

From 15% to 60% in 1 hour.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Dreamslacker:
Same here. Oddly enough, it only seems to affect Google Maps. Other apps like Facebook, Whatsapp and other mapping software that use GPS for location do not trigger the issue.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] smee71:
Hi FANdroid

Can your UP band sync via the headphone jack too? I'm thinking of getting this phone, but worried it won't sync with my older UP wired band.

Cheers
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] n0thing2bdone:
Currently at 55% with 4.5 hours SOT and 14.5 on battery. Just reading and on WiFi. Also restarted a couple of times while disabling the Sony nav ring and some Sony social stuff. Stamina off. Syncing a handful of things. Google now off. This is over twice as long as my n4.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] pipspeak:
Do you have Extended Standby activated in the Stamina settings?

I lost about 5% battery overnight last night for no apparent reason, but I suspect it's because of the multitude of Sony-related services and apps running in the background that I seem unable to switch off. Not to mention All the Google Play rubbish trying to track your every move and hunting for any wearables you might have.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] punkyd:
Yes,everything is activated in stamina settings.

Last night with WiFi,mobile data and auto sync activated i lost 2%,stamina off.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] monsieur_debile:
I have tips for people who experienced battery life issue

- Clean install, wipe datas, i myself made fresh install through PC Companion and wiped data and battery life issue was gone

- Do not install any battery life saving such as doctor battery etc... they wont help to save battery and even worse, it might degrade battery life

- Disable Google apps/services for the sake of battery, it may consumes by synchronizing each minute

- BetterBatteryStats to see kernel wakelocks, unfortunately only root access give you the freedom to use most of BBS options

- Startup Manager / CM Cleaner, disable all apps at boot, with CM cleaner, clean up, boost ram, its a very nice app

- Disable notifications but it doesnt make real difference in my opinion except for excessive apps that pop up often

- Disable settings that allows synch, sending anonymous data or such similar things, in some manner, check every app settings

e.g - File Commander (there is an option which allows him to sync each time at background, disable it)

- Check battery life graphic, an healthy battery life should have linear results, if there are many variations (at idle), its most likely some apps running at the background

All these settings would improve battery life at idle, there is nothing we can do when you are using resources such as browsing, watching video, playing games, using apps

There are only slight consuming improvements

e.g usually i lost 7/8% at average when watching tv series through wifi (Plex)

Now i got around 6/7%

Minor results but i take it anyway

At idle, i am glad its back to normal with not huge battery life drops

By the way, it consumes barely nothing even with 3G enabled during the day (losing around 5% at idle each day)

I have LTE contract but 3G works better, 4G, much quicker for the speed internet purpose.

However, also getting poor cell reception

If you live in country which LTE is still in progress and not yet deployed for entire mobile network coverage, yes 4G call signals can be surprisingly worst than 3G (excluding big cities over millions of residents which probably have excellent LTE coverage)

In few words, rather pick a good cell reception than a faster speed mobile network

To sum up

- Keep you eyes on apps

- Ban Google services/apps as far as you can

- Watch your cell signals (perhaps consider switching to another provider)