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[Xperia Z3 General] radicans:
Normally, I'm the one slagging off the image quality of the Z3, and I do think the Note4 has much better image quality overall. But some scenery works well with the Z3. And in this case I do think Sony can do something similar. The photo below is taken with the Z3, albeit with HDR so I could definitely not shoot it while moving in the slightest. The colors in my photo are cooler and paler than what is was really like, another signature Z3 "quality". I did set the WB manually but this looked the best on the screen when taking the shot. Anyway, here I'm pretty happy with the result, but in most cases I agree that the Note4 blows the Z3 out of the water.
[Xperia Z3 General] funky0308:
Great photo...

But you understood what I wanted to say...

I shoot that pict through windshield at 100-110 kn/h...no HDR, editing or changing anything...

I bought Note4 just to see this device and I'm impressed with camera quality.

Then I found out its using Sony lenses (or whole camera...I'm not 100% sure) that's even harder to understand...

Why Sony can't do that?!

They, obviously know how to built hardware...

I shoot few picts in nature at sunny day and OMG ... Photos are fantastic.

Sharp, clear, full if colors and ...simply fantastic.

Don't get me wrong...Sony is nr1 for me...but I'll have Samsung for picturing and business and Xperia because I'm nostalgic...

Sony is losing battles often and often...I really hope they won't lose a war..

I would really like to see a Xperia Z5 or Z6...but Sony has to wake up...there's no time to lose.

Samsung is building metal case devices with powered by great hardware...each day they have better and better software and they will crush todays Sony...

I really hope Sony will find a way to suprise us all (positively) ☺ ...
[Xperia Z3 General] guybrush2099:
please set your z3 camera properly. note 4 is really good for automatic shots..nothing more..

I tried all greateST smartphone cameras (S4, S5, iPhone 6, Note 4, ...) and Z3 is widely better...

anyway I admit it's a little bit more diffult to use than others...manual mode is compulsory...but the final results are INCREDIBLE (you need a little bit of practice)

some shots of a user

https://www.flickr.com/photos/zambotti/16720900456/

mine is some posts ago and I'll try to post other photos..
[Xperia Z3 General] Silverdace:
I don't think those Flikr photos were taken by a Z3. There's no characteristic colour smudging of detail so cannot be Z3.

Or could be I suppose. There's not a lot of colour in the scene so not too bad for Z3 to handle.

I find any contrasting bright colours, e.g. (Orange or Red on Green background) tend to have halo artifacts about them and Red is normally washed out to a pink by Auto WB.

I think the Z3 just struggles with contrasting colour or detail and seems to want to merge with the background anything it views as 'out of place'.
[Xperia Z3 General] doministry:
Hahaha, what?????

Just look at Exif and data Lol.

Hard to accept hmm?

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Some people will never understand it.
[Xperia Z3 General] Silverdace:
Yeah, my bad, hence my edit. Scrolled through a bunch of the photos and didn't realise only first few were z3.
[Xperia Z3 General] juanmaasecas:
Iso control only works on the Sony stock camera app. In camera fv5 you can change it, but finally you get an auto result.

I've moved from my last Xperia Z2 to a LG G3 and the camera is much better in almost every situation. Only in very low light without flash I could take better pics with the z2 using night scene mode (and holding the phone somewhere and without moving people...). Take into account that LG g3 uses Sony IMX135 sensor, the same as in the old Xperia Z0...
[Xperia Z3 General] Soured Lie:
I didn't have issues with setting iso unless I went above 800.

I just got the note 4 again though so I can't play with it any further. I have a brand new magnector X2, terrapin slim case and premium tempered glass protector if anybody want it on the super cheap. All in their respective packaging. Didn't even get a chance to use them.
[Xperia Z3 General] sefelizrc:
Al norte by sefelizrc, on Flickr
[Xperia Z3 General] sefelizrc:
Another one

Villa Marinera by sefelizrc, on Flickr
[Xperia Z3 General] marcolero:
Lg g3 vs xperia z3

Some samples to compare LG G3 and Xperia Z3 .

Personally I prefer Xperia Z3 . Even the superior auto mode did better . What do you think?
[Xperia Z3 General] marcolero:
Lg g3 vs xperia z3

More samples.
[Xperia Z3 General] marcolero:
Samples LG G3 X Xperia Z3

What did you think has the best quality?
[Xperia Z3 General] marcolero:
Cont.

Importantly, the Xperia z3 lens is more open , which increases the number of objects on the screen , but reduces their size , consequently the quality. On the other hand gained wider shots .
[Xperia Z3 General] utsav911:
Plymouth prowler. by utsav911, on Flickr

mustang boss 302. by utsav911, on Flickr

Porsche 918 spyder by utsav911, on Flickr

DSC_0094 by utsav911, on Flickr

First three are edited with VSCOCam.
[Xperia Z3 General] zodiac100:
The z3's shots were sharper with less noise but without being in the room it's hard to tell which had better white balance. The z3's auto has gone for cold neutral tones while the g3 opted for a much warmer contrasty tones
[Xperia Z3 General] David47:
Taken in manual mode, 8mpx 16:9, automatic settings except for the HDR function and ISO 50.

Later edited with the built-in Sony app, adding a bit more of that "HDR feel" (just 1 setting and that's it, can't remember the name now). After that I've removed the license plate using computer software and change proportions (removed a bit of sky and ground so it'd look better as my desktop background ;) ).
[Xperia Z3 General] Aoi_sora9x:
Seriously, people who say the Z3 has a bad camera really mean that the Z3 has a bad automatic mode.

Manual on the Z3 is where it's at, yo.

[IMG="Image1"]http://i.imgur.com/vbm1LUK.jpg[/IMG] [IMG="image 2"]http://i.imgur.com/r8DNCGe.jpg[/IMG]
[Xperia Z3 General] ShahinTehShiz:
What kind of settings would you adjust to get that kind of lighting and saturation of colours in that picture?
[Xperia Z3 General] marcolero:
the second and third series, the photos were taken later on Xperia Z3, so the white balance seems negative. approximately 6h PM, against 5h PM.
[Xperia Z3 General] Aoi_sora9x:
Surprisingly, that one was done on superior auto. I think the abundance of light helps too.
[Xperia Z3 General] Silverdace:
Even on manual I get blurred detail and distortion around the corners of the pic if the scene has any detail. Take a picture of something with straight vertical lines toward the edges. I guess that's just a result of wide angle lens?

Radicans I think had a post way back which shows the chroma blurring and cross hatching issues.

Yes the z3 can take good photos in the right conditions and settings.

However the issues people have identified are particular to Sony only and should not happen.

They are software issues and so can be fixed. Sony should fix them and we should make an effort to let them know they need fixing.

Perhaps a separate thread was more appropriate.
[Xperia Z3 General] pcgamingisted:
Happy with these pictures!
[Xperia Z3 General] Dirtyguyy:
I love my z3 dual
[Xperia Z3 General] Commando_ShamZz:
hey guys

I was browsing

Then i saw this website having a petition to make sony fix the software of camera

Link: https://www.change.org/p/sony-mobile-fix-the-camera-software-sony
[Xperia Z3 General] vegetaleb:
I wonder now with manual tricks which one is better Z3 or M9 or Note 4?

I love the Z3's design but I can't stand another year with a poor camera (or not the best)
[Xperia Z3 General] itsjustJOH:
Nothing ever happens with those petitions.
[Xperia Z3 General] karrouma:
nice pic

Nice pic bro, i love lebanon flag in the pic
[Xperia Z3 General] ebisa:
Some pics from today. The flower is shot with Backgr. Defocus, and the cat is shot at manual, with a bit of postprocessing. I'm pleasured with the results.
[Xperia Z3 General] undercover:
All shot with Google Camera
[Xperia Z3 General] Commando_ShamZz:
Doesn't hurt to try tho :P
[Xperia Z3 General] marcolero:
+1
[Xperia Z3 General] corallus:
Jupiter
[Xperia Z3 General] nic85:
which app give the best results?

stock manual

Google camera

a better camera

something else?
[Xperia Z3 General] utsav911:
2015-04-03 12.49.42 1 by utsav911, on Flickr

evening. by utsav911, on Flickr

My school. by utsav911, on Flickr

2015-04-13 09.23.10 1 by utsav911, on Flickr

Transamerica Pyramid. by utsav911, on Flickr
[Xperia Z3 General] Stixxbixby:
Nice shots. Manual? What settings?
[Xperia Z3 General] Lobo Lansky:
Yeah all 3 manual ISO 50 but I noticed when uploading them thru here they lost allot of detail though.
[Xperia Z3 General] utsav911:
Some original shots without any editing :)

DSC_0487 by utsav911, on Flickr

DSC_0447 by utsav911, on Flickr

DSC_0344 by utsav911, on Flickr

DSC_0177 by utsav911, on Flickr
[Xperia Z3 General] itsjustJOH:
Those are very good!
[Xperia Z3 General] utsav911:
Thank man [emoji3]
[Xperia Z3 General] infinitylook:
For me camera quality become worst at manual mode(a bit better on SA) I don't understand why. I compared two shots, one from kitkat and one from lollipop but lollipop has a lot of of soft areas amd noise in manual. Anyone can comment or agree with this? The two photos were of the same subject ( can't attach files now)
[Xperia Z3 General] radicans:
Interesting about new camera tech in Apple phones

http://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/14/linx-camera-technology-apple/

If it's as good as promised, it will leave the competition in the dust! It might also rival Google's project tango (basically two cameras in one device to produce 3d-mapping of the environment).

I hope Sony takes note of this and stop gimping their phone cameras and fix up their shoddy software! But my bet is they are more likely to let their phone segment die rather than do that.
[Xperia Z3 General] MarkMRL:
A couple of pictures I got at my friend's house.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0AFj-0zeyt1MVJUZGI2b3J5amM/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0AFj-0zeyt1MEZjdmNOS0NnLTg/view?usp=sharing
[Xperia Z3 General] sskillerr:
My photo gallery from Z3 Dual:

https://flic.kr/s/aHskacz55L
[Xperia Z3 General] infinitylook:
What's your android version?

Nice photos but i guess you're back cover, the portion on the lens, is the colored part scratched or not even anymore? I am referring to the lens coat.
[Xperia Z3 General] sskillerr:
I have KitKat 4.4.4 :)
[Xperia Z3 General] jbisana89:
What settings did you use?
[Xperia Z3 General] Silverdace:
Will be compressed but can't be bothered posting Flickr link.
[Xperia Z3 General] Silverdace:
My Flickr z3 album https://flic.kr/s/aHsk5SUTu7
[Xperia Z3 General] utsav911:
2015-04-16 11.09.36 1 by utsav911, on Flickr

2015-04-16 11.09.35 1 by utsav911, on Flickr

2015-04-17 10.31.45 1 by utsav911, on Flickr

2015-04-19 08.20.22 1 by utsav911, on Flickr

2015-04-20 03.35.50 1 by utsav911, on Flickr

2015-04-20 03.33.58 2 by utsav911, on Flickr
[Xperia Z3 General] Silverdace:
Night time stuff

https://flic.kr/p/sgyuTv

Don't know why Flickr links aren't working.
[Xperia Z3 General] Mickovich:
Today I took a photo of a landscape in manual mode and configured the camera for the best (sony screen was on full brightness)- after the shot, the picture looked very nice and I was satisfied with it. Then later, I uploaded it to my Dropbox folder and looked it on my computer screen (FULL brightness, macbook) and i noticed that the image I took, looks much darker on my computer screen - although if I watch it on my sony it looks really great and much brighter, all balanced, but on computer it is quite dark. Then i compared some other previous shots and it seems to be so with them as well...?

Note: Image enhancement is off and white balance is 0,0,0 (RGB) in phone settings.

Update: I calibrated my computers display color profile from 0 and seems, it has quite an effect. The tones were maybe bit too warm before and it might have made the darker areas look more dark.

Any other ideas are welcome.
[Xperia Z3 General] utsav911:
There is always a color difference between different LCD panels. Sometimes companies try to push darker tones on their lcds in order to get deep blacks. That was the case with my xperia Ion. So if I compare Ion's display to z3 the blacks are different. And AFAIK Z3 has one of the best lcd displays if not the best.
[Xperia Z3 General] infinitylook:
Great! Are you using manual? What's your settings and your android version?
[Xperia Z3 General] Mickovich:
Thanks for the input. I too believe now, that it is entirely from the display colour profile settings.

btw, you're pics look all great - i'am 'manual, iso50, multi' fan myself, but got wondering about one of the moving car shots you had - how'd you capture that moving car in so much detail and background defocused - i don't think you used background defocus mod, rather 'focus : object tracking' or was it superior auto?

referring to this image: www flickr com/photos/utsav911/16995901132
[Xperia Z3 General] utsav911:
Actually mixed. i use both. Auto and manual. And it's lollipop.

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Well. That's a panning shot. Move the camera at the same speed of the moving object until you capture it. [emoji6]
[Xperia Z3 General] zootzoot:
Some pics I took at the London science museum.
[Xperia Z3 General] Soured Lie:
Okay. So I had the Z3. I returned to for the note 4. I REALLY do not like the camera on the note 4. Reason being is that it performs poorly indoors and in low light conditions. Very noisy pictures that cannot be remedied. Anyhow, I just ordered another Z3 as they just went down in price for tmobile. So if anybody wants me to do comparison shots in this thread I will. I also have a G2 and a oneplus. I can compare the g2 as well if you like, and the oneplus when my panel replacement arrives.

So my issue with the note 4 is that it either over sharpens making it great for zoom in shots with detail but an overall cartoonish or penciled looking effect, or it is noisy. The best shots have a good overall picture but zoomed in looked like smudged watercolor and it doesn't take much zooming to see it. I'm just not a fan. I don't want to say the note 4 has a **** camera. I think it comes down to what algorithm you prefer. Choose your poison. Personally I prefer the z3 due to a larger pixel count thus a bigger picture with more room for cropping. Also it does much much better in low light without much noise. All cameras perform well with good natural light. So at the end of the day for me I prefer to have a camera that will perform well indoors or with well lit situations or in low lit situations. Plus I think the colors aren't so artificially over saturated.

Let me know what settings you want the comparison done with. I'm not doing auto vs auto. That is a waste of time. I'll host them on flicker. I really do think the z3 has a better camera. I want to say this is a non bias opinion as I returned the z3 in hopes of getting a better snapper with the N4 but was not satisfied.
[Xperia Z3 General] Dpk1:
I agree! Note 4 indoor images do have that painting like look at 100% crop. It does have superior daylight quality though. Overall i prefer Z3 for my daily use as most pics i take are indoors. But I think sony can tweak the camera algorithms a bit for better daylight image quality (like say for foliage).
[Xperia Z3 General] Apokaliptor:
Some picks from my Z3:
[Xperia Z3 General] marcolero:
Note 4 Vs Xperia Z3

Please post some comparison pics.
[Xperia Z3 General] Soured Lie:
Will do. My new Z3 will be here on Wednesday, so expect a few comparison shots on Thursday or Friday!
[Xperia Z3 General] nic85:
a better camera is way better than the stock one! I like the night mode which combines many photos in one for a great result
[Xperia Z3 General] nedooo:
get some 500+ cd/m2 monitor
[Xperia Z3 General] butman:
VSCO Cam?
[Xperia Z3 General] utsav911:
Yup.
[Xperia Z3 General] miiichal.er:
My first macros
[Xperia Z3 General] Commando_ShamZz:
Hello guys

I was just wondering if the z4 announced in japan has better camera s.w ? :confused:

I have read they have put in image stabilisation. Is it w.a or hardware ? :eek:
[Xperia Z3 General] warface:
Couple from my Z3.

The hoverfly is cropped, but no tweaking.

The second pic has been edited with the Google Pictures app, with a Tiltshift effect.
[Xperia Z3 General] pchetan2:
second one looks cool
[Xperia Z3 General] scribbclubber:
Nice finding here guys :S

Same sensor for S6 and Iphone6 but... hell !!!!!

have a look at these:

http://pocketnow.com/2015/04/29/sony-profits

http://www.iphonehacks.com/2015/04/roundup-galaxy-s6-camera-stacks-up-against-iphone-6-plus.html
[Xperia Z3 General] killed:
Anyone help me about ways to capture a nice photo in 2 time: more sunrise and dark night? Because I just capture via auto model but not good, so sad.

Stock ROM Lollipop 5.0.2
[Xperia Z3 General] guybrush2099:
- sensor of Z3 is 4:3. please don't shot 16:9 for comparatives

- you have to shot 8mpx iso 50 , manual mode, to get the real Z3 image quality. please don't use 20mpx for comparatives

- lens are grandangular in Z3. It takes larger portion of what you are framing (you can see many more meters on the left and on the right of the shot compared to other smartphones with lens greater then z3 25mm, using 4:3 vs 4:3), so it's normal to expect the same crop with less detail. you need to take the same centimeters of the shot to compare the real quality

let's try again with these features :) let us know
[Xperia Z3 General] GoyoNeuff:
Same here... Would like to know which other phone/camera options did you consider for that low-light reasoning.

Excellent points !!! I do not remember where I read, but I know I did, that the 4:3 is the setting where the phones use the full pixel capacity.

Cheers,

G.
[Xperia Z3 General] Chefproll:
I am using what Sony advertizes to make people buy the Z3. So of course I selected the 20.7 MP resolution, which IS 4:3 !

What the heck made you believe I used 16:9 pictures ??? Wishful thinking ? ;)

To evaluate the quality of a 20.7 MP sensor, I need to shoot using 8 MP ?

Any sound reasons ? - Sorry, I just cannot take that for serious.

But for your peace of mind: I ALSO did comparison shoots using 8 MP - that's the shots where Sony forced me to cripple the resolution down to 8 MP for using HDR (almost useless). So I took 8 MP pictures, too - with and without HDR.

Guess the results ? - Yes, right. S4 just took the Z3 and smashed it against the next wall.

By the way: I used ISO 50.

Sorry, don't regard me as a fool. Of course I compensated for that by framing exactly the same field of view with all cameras used. But I already noted that in the picture description.

Guys... We are all a bit proud of our new Z3. But just let's don't behave like Apple users, unable to survive a critical view on the hardware.

It's cute seeing all that contributors posting their pictures heavily reduced in size to conceal the shortcomings of the Z3 camera.

But that's not the real world. We paid for that superior 20.7 MP camera Sony advertized. Not for 8 MP.

Ever tried a panorama shot ? - If not, try... Surprise ! Picture height is limited to 1080 pixels. Results are "slit" pictures, roughly killing 3/4 of the original height and 3/4 of alle details making panorama shots that appealing.

ANY sense in that ?

Just face it: We've got a real good hardware, but it's crippled by a subzero software.

To make Sony change that, we need to concentrate on the shortcomings. If we continue posting mini pictures which appear flawless and congratulate ourselves for shooting SOOO NIIIIICE pictures, Sony will have a good laugh - and will never change anything to the better.

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So let's do some simple math...

A 20.7 MP shot is 5248 x 3936 pixels.

Divide 5248 by 1312; result 4.

Now divide 3936 by 1312; result 3.

Final result: 4:3

Conclusion: The 20.7 MP mode of our Z3 is 4:3 ! - Surprise. :)

And where's that "Excellent points" now ?
[Xperia Z3 General] Chefproll:
No offense taken; in fact, that's my thoughts, too. :/ - I was THAT disappointed with the Z3 camera. But: My own fault. I've also got a Z2 tablet, with a "8 MP camera" (haha). I did similar comparison photos using the S4 front (!) camera. Z2 Tablet lost big time.

I should have taken that as a warning, but I just could not believe Sony being totally unable to provide a proper camera software.

My Z3 has a broken display glass (no, not the famous "neighbor's cat", the screen died after listing to loud music for some hours), will go to the repair center. If they repair it for free, I will keep it. If they wish to charge me anything, I will trash it.

Nokia 1020 would a dream, but a dream becoming a nightmare caused by the OS. If it was an Android device, I would have possessed it right after launch. :/
[Xperia Z3 General] mocsharp:
If the problem is the camera software, what about 3rd party camera apps? Like Google's camera app.
[Xperia Z3 General] paysen:
I don't get how you can compare them that way. I mean, depending on aperture, iso and where your focus really is. If the focus is slightly off, it gives you a totally different picture. I mean, how do you know that the focus is correct? Because you type on a small area on the screen? Is there a way to manually focus?
[Xperia Z3 General] Venacephalica:
Hey chefproll, we know each other from Amazon.de (NanuNana). S4 cam is a point and shoot cam with great pics! Oppo Find 7a produced also damn good pics which often look much better than S4 pics. Last Sony I owned (for exactly one week) was a zl and this cam was horrible!!! But in my opinion Z3 cam is not so bad...i'll keep it. By the way, I try to resist of viewing pics in 1:1 ratio in general because they all look pretty frustrating (also DSLR pics!!!!) I prefer 1:2 ratio...:D

This pic is Oppo cam...:cool:

Sony Z3
[Xperia Z3 General] iBuzman:
Still too many words in this thread... so I better keep posting pictures ?
[Xperia Z3 General] GhostLeader:
Unbelievable - You will really tell us that your Z3 got broken coz you were listining to loud music? LOL
[Xperia Z3 General] clAssymeerKat:
Honestly I think all the photos you guys are posting look fantastic :o

Im buying a phone not a DSLR, I have my Nikon for that, as [MENTION=3767251]iBuzman[/MENTION] said, too many words so lets see some more photos :good:
[Xperia Z3 General] subhani:
Look, the S4 practically beats every other device out there. Go and see the note 4 blind comparison test on phonearena http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...comparison-iPhone-6-is-distant-second_id61676 and compare the results for yourself. Do not follow the votes. If you look at every 100% crop, the iPhone is behind the rest (bar the note 3) when it comes to detail and crisp definition. Somehow people voted it second best. Just compare every iphone CROP side by side with the Z3. Z3 shows more detail consistently but got fewer votes, perhaps for colder duller color reproduction.

The Samsung's just wipe the floor with the competition. But the note 3 fails pretty hard.

I myself have compared indoor evening shots with my partner's iP6+ and the Z3 shows more details and better contrast than the iPhone, consistently. It also perform MUCH better in extreme low light.

If someone can show me a dummy's guide as to how I can upload full size images here for comparison, then I shall do so tonight.

I just don't like the crude and scathing criticism of nearly every image that people have uploaded. I wanna get it right so please show me the steps instead of just berating the post with technical jargon and patronizing remarks.

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I DO agree wholeheartedly that the S4/S5 and the Note 4 will produce better pictures in daylight. In low light without flash, they kiss the Z3's feet.