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[G3 General] jstntp:
I posted this earlier..... might want to try it. The file link is for GooglePlayServices. You could place it in /data/app/ .... and then delete it from /system/app/.
[G3 General] MrDynamo:
Everytime I reinstall Google Play Services, it reinstalls it as a system app.
[G3 General] Griffiths_Anna:
if you wanna convert Google play service to user apps the best way to that is to freeze it first using titanium backup and once it has been frozen you will be able convert it
[G3 General] pvinodnayak:
Since LS990 bootloader can't be unlocked, can't I use TB to backup the Google Search app and then delete it? Just in case if I can't install it from Play Store I can always restore it from TB backup.

Please advice as I'm stuck at this point of uninstalling the told app.
[G3 General] drmspidi:
If it can helps anyone, I've put my experience here reggarding the battery life.

http://xdaforums.com/lg-g3/help/increase-battery-life-t2897395
[G3 General] Mahapederdon:
I put my phone pretty close to stock. No greenify at all. Just froze unused apps and run g3tweekbox For looks. I unplugged it last night at 9 pm and this morning when I woke up I was still at 100% now at 12 hrs later at 912 am after using it for awhile I'm still at 94%. My phone seems to run smoother not messing with the Google stuff. Oh yeah I also used trickster mod to change to performance. Not sure if it helped but I'm leaving it seeing that battery is still great. Standby time rocks. It's screen time that kills this thing. I get 4 hrs screen time consistently no matter how long it's been unplugged.
[G3 General] pvinodnayak:
It would be nice if you share what you did with trickster mod, there are many settings in that mod. If you can share what you did exactly, it would help all. Thanks

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Using trickster mod I have only switched on the temperature throttle.
[G3 General] Mahapederdon:
Then only two I changed were CPU Governor and the number above it. The number above it is set by the system or something because it doesn't stick. It changes whenever it wants. Make sure you also go into settings and set kernel on boot with a few second delay. I started high just I can it messed something up it would give me time to turn it off. Lemme know if you think this helps. My phone seems fast and snappy but it could be just placebo.
[G3 General] Mahapederdon:
I'm not sure temp throttle helps us at all because it's already a built in feature of the way it runs. Maybe if you turn thermal daemon off in the hidden menu bit when I did that my phone rebooted a few times cause it was too hot.
[G3 General] atrix4nag:
no gmail notifications

After doing this, I am not getting gmail notification is that normal. what should I do, If i want to get gmail and whatsapp notifications
[G3 General] Wh1t3Rose:
Re-enable any service you disabled with GCM in the title and if you use greenify then go to settings and turn on GCM push for greenified apps
[G3 General] atrix4nag:
I have all GCM services enabled and GCM push is enabled in greenify.
[G3 General] jstntp:
[emoji106] not bad! Deep sleep is definately working well.
[G3 General] pvinodnayak:
Which model of G3?
[G3 General] JeffDC:
If we took a poll, on full success vs- not, what do you think the numbers would be?

5 got it working, to 100+ not?

what?
[G3 General] pvinodnayak:
I'm just trying to be careful, as I'm on a locked boatloader. Just want to know if I can take a backup of the mentioned apps in TB & then uninstall it?
[G3 General] JeffDC:
Tried it on an 850. Exactly following steps cooked my system. Maybe having the files already on your SD, sitting and waiting to install helps. Haven't seen many folks reporting back SUCCESS.
[G3 General] jstntp:
You all should really try my suggestion of freezing the apps first THEN try to convert to user app with titanium.
[G3 General] Mahapederdon:
That is the safest way to do it.
[G3 General] Wh1t3Rose:
[MENTION=3616556]jstntp[/MENTION]'s method works great :)
[G3 General] pvinodnayak:
After installing all the required apps. Use TB to freeze Google Search and Google Play Services, then convert them to user apps. At this point aren't we supposed to shift them into a different directory ? /system/priv-apps/ ? Or leave them in the same location? After converting do we defreeze immediately or after reboot? I'm sorry just trying to be in the safer side.
[G3 General] jstntp:
They will be shifted from /system/app/ to /data/app/ automatically..... leave them there. When I did it they instantly became unfrozen on their own when the transition was complete. I then rebooted right away and all was good.

It was as simple as that. No errors, no FC's and titanium didn't hang at all. Once again though YMMV.
[G3 General] Helmetheadog:
If you can give me a detailed description of your method to convert to system app, I'll update the post to include it since many people are reporting better success rates using your method. Thanks for your help and input
[G3 General] GroovyGeek:
This actually is quite simpler, quicker and safer than the method you propose.

1) Use TiBu to freeze Google Search and Google Play Services. This is done in the checkmark menu under the Freeze / Defrost section

2) Use TiBu to convert Google Play Services to a user app. This automatically defrosts it too.

3) Repeat for Google Search. It is important to do Search after Play Services to ensure that Search does not start calling Services and messing up something.

Also it is worth noting in the OP that before resetting phone to factory settings users MUST reverse these things back to system apps. Otherwise Google Play Services gets deleted and this results in a system force close immediately after reboot. The only way to recover is a full revert to stock as best as I can tell. I was unable to get ADB to connect and could not sideload.

The worst part of the above process was that my TiBu backups were on the internal SD and the revert to stock wiped them. Live and learn, now TiBu backs up to external SD and mirrors on Google Drive
[G3 General] pvinodnayak:


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Can't seem to install Xposed
[G3 General] pvinodnayak:
I installed Xposed, now in experimental section of greenfy if I select Or check "Keep Notification" it goes to Xposed section.

Can't seem to check both. Please advice.

Thanks
[G3 General] Wh1t3Rose:
This would go in the greenify thread. Ask there. You did activate the exposed module and reboot? I'd do it again to make sure.

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Ask in the Xposed thread. You will get better help there.
[G3 General] pvinodnayak:
I got both checked now I can't seem to find the 9th point. Where to enable "always ignore it's running state" this part I've been searching it for half hour now. Please advice. Thanks
[G3 General] Wh1t3Rose:
If it's for Google play services launch Maps or some other app that req play services. This should Get play services running. Now manually hibernate play services and you should get a dialog asking about ignoring it's running state.
[G3 General] jstntp:
[MENTION=5272949]Helmetheadog[/MENTION] glad to help where I can..... I like this method/mod al lot..... it IS a great battery saver if done right! Very nice write up in the OP.

[MENTION=3041623]GroovyGeek[/MENTION] you beat me to the punch on a detailed write up, but nicely done! That about sums it up. I haven't tried it yet, but I would assume that freezing and converting back to system app would work the same way.
[G3 General] pvinodnayak:
I have tried the same. Froze both apps and then converted then to user apps issuing TB. Rebooted it's all fine. No fcs, working like give. Yet to test though.
[G3 General] Skinny0ne:
Just to be sure its the one at the top, right? Or all of the ones that say Google Play Services
[G3 General] Helmetheadog:
Thanks. I've updated my post with this information and given you credit accordingly.
[G3 General] impactor:
I have a problem with converting Google Play Services and Search to user apps. Titanium Backup keep displaying them as system apps (in red), even though they are already moved to /data/app. Rebooting does not help.

I suppose this is the reason why they are not visible inside Greenify.
[G3 General] impactor:
That worked, but Google Play Services are still nowhere to be found in Greenify.
[G3 General] diminou91:
You have to install xposed and the premium version of greenify, then in greenify you go in "experimental options" and select "push gcm" and "system apps greenification". Should appear now :)
[G3 General] impactor:
That's the problem. It should, but it doesn't.
[G3 General] jstntp:
In the upper right corner of greenify, press the menu button, and then show all.
[G3 General] muphetz:
Link2Sd,,easy convert
[G3 General] randyspants:
I did this and everything worked but I still could never get my phone to deep sleep. 12 hours and about 3 min of deep sleep :(

I was trying anything and what finally let my phone sleep was disabling the WiFi power save feature in advanced wireless settings. Just FYI if anyone is experiencing similar. Maybe a issue with my WiFi ap. (Unifi)
[G3 General] jstntp:
Does your edited post mean my suggestion worked, lol.
[G3 General] impactor:
:)

Indeed, it showed up, but wanted to experiment with it first. After adding it, Play Services are with description "Not hibernating automatically". Does it mean there's something wrong?
[G3 General] jstntp:
Ok, so now manually hibernate it checkmark the box that pops up [emoji3]
[G3 General] impactor:
What do you mean? There's nothing poping up when I click it. Besides, I think it defeats the purpose if I need to hibernate it manually.
[G3 General] jstntp:
Click on it then click the zzz at the bottom of greenify screen.

Then checkmark the box and hit continue..... you wont need to do this everytime.
[G3 General] muphetz:
Greenify will hibernate Play Service when the screen is off,when screen is on it will say "pending or perciptible
[G3 General] JeffDC:
Items like this should be put into the OP's 'how to' for a section like "Be sure to check XXX if things aren't working correctly for you"

This is a sneakily thing most folks may never think of..

nice find Randy.
[G3 General] srimay:
So since I've implemented this mod, I'm easily getting 14 hours with 4 hours screen time.
[G3 General] Pfeffernuss:
:confused: That's a completely normal and rather average result which you also should easily get without this mod.

Then again, this mod won't do a lot if you deplete your battery in 14 hours and use the phone much. Leave the phone idle for longer times and you would/should see a difference.
[G3 General] pvinodnayak:
I get this error sometimes when the phone is already on screen locked,

In this state the GPS (Google Play Services) does not hibernate, geenfy will keep trying till it hibernates, this makes the phone heat up. Anyone know why this happens? It does not happen all the time.

Also I want to install the Google Play Store 5, do I need to temporarily convert the GPS to system app?

Please advice.

Thanks
[G3 General] GroovyGeek:
Credit belongs to jstntp not me
[G3 General] transfo47:
I can't find ignore its running state in Greenify!
[G3 General] jstntp:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=55922861

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Nah, its all good..... you did the detailed write up. [emoji3]
[G3 General] transfo47:
Thank you.
[G3 General] M I N E:
hi where do i go to convert the google service and search to app, i cant find it anywhere in titanium backup, can somenoe take screen shot and step by steps? after i freeze it can i still get email alert? because if i freeze it regularly i cant even access playstore and any goggles tuff
[G3 General] Slmii92:
I followed the guide, but it seems that my Google Play Services can't be hibernated automatically. It's in the 'Not automatic hibernate' list. Anyway thing I can do to make it automatic hibernate?

I'm not getting the pop-up btw.

EDIT: I did NOT delete Play Services, only froze it and I did convert it to user apps. I always hibernate it manually but it goes back to the same list, and no pop-up.
[G3 General] Wh1t3Rose:
Did you launch an app that requires part services like maps then see if you get the popup?
[G3 General] insang-droid:
Anyone actually see real battery life improvement doing this?

Seems unreversible other than doing a reset so I'd like to know if anyone seen real tangible battery life improvement
[G3 General] gsw5700:
You can use TB to convert both back to system apps as I've just done
[G3 General] Slmii92:
Yes, I did.

I think it's working now. It's now in the Hibernated list with 'State always ignored for hibernation'. I unfroze both apps and changed it back to system apps. Did a reboot and tried once more. I think I forgot to reboot the first time after changing them both to user apps.
[G3 General] M I N E:
So how do you convert the google play services and search to user app in titanium backup? can anyone take a screenshot and instructions step by step? I cant find it anywhere
[G3 General] BioVolt:
Click on it in the list, then the screen that appears with Freeze/Defrost, swipe left on this screen two times for more menus, it is towards the bottom of the list.

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Is this correct way to input / separate the wakelocks in wakelock terminator?
[G3 General] M I N E:
i only see backup properties and special features i dont see another one and in special features do you mean press "force remove app?" because i dont see converting it anywhere -_-
[G3 General] BioVolt:
Open Titanium Backup, go to backup/restore

Then find Google play services / Google search in the list and click on it

Next a menu will pop up, swipe left on this menu for special features

Special features menu appears, down at the bottom you get convert to user app, mine says convert to system because I have already done it

Don't know if you need paid titanium to do this, mine is paid for. Good luck.
[G3 General] jstntp:
I do believe you need the paid version.
[G3 General] M I N E:
oh okay i need to buy the paid version no wonder why, thanks BioVolt for the write up and taking the time :good:
[G3 General] M I N E:
anyone know how to turn off android os , its been awake for 3hours+ when my phone is off or when i'm not using it or when my phone is on and its eating a lot of the battery when i'm not using it, how do i disable that?
[G3 General] jstntp:
You can't shut that down without having serious issues. Android OS = Android Operating System. Use Wakelock Detector to see what else is keeping it awake.
[G3 General] insang-droid:
My first full day with this done. Disconnect at 630am. Back home from work at 9pm. 15 hours. I'm at 80% batt.

Even on the lowest usage day I've NEVER EVER had a day that used 20% batt. This includes G2 when it first launched.

I'll have to keep my eye on it rest of week but looks like we have something here.
[G3 General] ChongoDroid:
Working great here as well
[G3 General] Japultra:
I'm not sure if this has been brought up. I tried a search but couldn't find anything. Google Play Services is not showing up for me in Greenify as something I can greenify. Would anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

(Both it and Google Search have been converted to user apps)

EDIT: I selected Show All and it showed up.
[G3 General] Snowblond:
When I greenify both Google Play Services and Facebook Messenger I won't get any notifications at all. If I greenify only Google Play Services it seems to work properly so far. So, does that mean if you greenify Google Play Services you cannot greenify apps that send push notifications unless you don't care about them?

I am rooted, using boost mode and I have the checked the experimental features.
[G3 General] lewonsky:
From what I know is in time held awake in gsam, the kernel should be the top. If anything else is at the top it means there are a wakelock problem in yr apps . Also another thing if anyone here encountered the media server wakelock go settings, media output , settings again and disable HTC media link hd notifications

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This is what I have after disabling the HTC media link notifications
[G3 General] insang-droid:
Had my friend do this on his Note3. I figured since this is not phone model dependant, if it works on one phone why not on another..

and he said the same thing.. big different on battery drain when phone is not being used.

spread the word..
[G3 General] insang-droid:
bump because this is awesome and best thing i've done to my G3.. and now two of my friends Note 3's

and for 62 hours on charge time with 2 hours of OST.
[G3 General] amstep3:
After I open maps and other google apps, google play services still didnt appear on in the greenify list of apps. I already greenified google search.

What to do from here?
[G3 General] amstep3:
Is this normal? Always on pending state.
[G3 General] Mennooo:
Click on it and check the box.
[G3 General] Mennooo:
Awesome
[G3 General] jeffmena93:
How do I know if greenify is actually hibernating the Google Play Services when I lock the screen? After it's been several minutes locked screen off, I unlock it, inmediately go to greenify and the Google Play Services is there waiting to be hibernated when screen if off.
[G3 General] Mennooo:
This is fakking awesome.
[G3 General] gzrecoil:
Giving this a try, hoping for the best. My battery life was already pretty great, but hey, if it helps I'll go for it.
[G3 General] nyorbee:
I also have always in "will hibernates couple minutes after screen off" section, and I didn everything as instructed for sure. Can someone clarify, that it should be that way or it's not right?
[G3 General] Japultra:
If you have Nova Prime, you can set your double tap action to use Greenify's "Hibernate + Lock Screen" setting so it'll hibernate all apps and then turn off your screen. If not, you can set a shortcut to that same action.
[G3 General] diosjeremy:
Every time I greenify apps, I can see that Google play service hibernates... I think it wake up seconds after I hibernate :(
[G3 General] mathsmart:
Do I have to write it AS IT ? with the " one over like that ?

"NlpCollectorWakeLock"

"com.google.android.gms"

In the "Filter wake lock" field type in "NlpCollectorWakeLock" and "com.google.android.gms"

anyway now its seem to work this way for me since the phone deep sleep for 2 minutes and already at 91% !! NICE

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it will hibernate when your screen is off by itself or if you think its not hibernate, open MAPS and go back in greenify and highlight google service play and try to manually hibernate the beast and it should pop you up the rest as describe in the how to .
[G3 General] mathsmart:
Here is a shot on cpuspy on cloudy rom dirty flashed yesterday night after letting sit overnight it was at 99% deepsleep but after using it im at 95% on the screenshot

You guy are genius !! Finally a trick that REALLY work best

the only concern for me is updating those apps from google store , will it work the same or we have to to the process again after an update, will it crash since it trying to update a ''system'' app instead of user app... =)

From Lg G3 "the beast"
[G3 General] atrix4nag:
softcard?

Does soft card app (ISIS before) works after applying this technique? I tired this one, and disabling few services from BBS thread.. but whenever I have to use softcard, i need to reflash the ROM, to get it back to initial ROM settings to use the app. i dont know which one is preventing to Soft card app to work..
[G3 General] jeffmena93:
Is it just me or google play services ALWAYS starts running seconds after it has been hibernated while screen is on? Is this how it's supposed to be?
[G3 General] bekham76:
Should I be worried its been an hour screen on and still 100%..
[G3 General] bekham76:
I just rebooted the phone it went to 91%
[G3 General] mathsmart:
big brother watching you so we dont have control on it I guess except now we can ask the thing to sleep when we dont use it hehehe.

After all its android :)

From Lg G3 "the beast"
[G3 General] diosjeremy:
Do you get your gmail push mails?
[G3 General] JeffDC:
OP,

Excellent mod by what I can tell from those who are successful. There seems a lot of 'instruction' clarification in this thread, refining the info/steps for newbies like me.

Do you think it would be possible to re-write the intro instructions with the little bits of extra info, now that the process seems to have been crystalized?

I'm finding I am missing little details as I go along, and my memory is poor.

Thank you for all of the experimentation you did to get this working.
[G3 General] BreakingVZW:
Would using the "always ignore state for hibernation" function on Google Search have any adverse effect on normal functionality? I only ask bc I saw the option for Google Search as well as Google services but there's no mention in the op about ticking that option for search.
[G3 General] eitama:
Used the guide on lg g2, wonders. Just awesome!!! 3 hours of Waze today and I didn't have to touch a charger till this very moment I am in bed.

To the dude above, I used the ignore state thing on both play services and search. I don't use Google now though so I don't know if it's affected
[G3 General] jspring86:
I also followed the instructions exactly, and nothing went terribly bad, but I also am not getting push notifications from google services.
[G3 General] eitama:
I'm getting push notifications as usual. I even greenified hangouts and it's still working
[G3 General] Snowblond:
Same here. I don't know why it's not working..
[G3 General] eitama:
Did you enable the experimental features for greenify? Did you exclude the strings in wakelock terminator?
[G3 General] snipeerz:
there is video for this !! like step by step in video
[G3 General] Snowblond:
Yes, I did everything. :/
[G3 General] KI_YOOU:
I have some problems as some other users m8. It could be really handy if you make a video of all the things we should do.
[G3 General] mathsmart:
The only missing step is

When you are in greenify to be able to greenify google play service you must click to show system apps AND u must click on top left corner option to show All apps ...after that only you can see and greenify the beast. :)

From Lg G3 "the beast"
[G3 General] runthenumbers:
I cannot express my gratitude enough.. this boosted my battery life by at least 5x. I had been trying for a month now to figure out how to make it work as it should, unbounce, factory reset, toggling all options off, a different phone. the works. currently at 78% battery with 1 1/2 hour screen time estimated at 28 hours left. thanks again.
[G3 General] jspring86:
I'm guessing you mean the stuff we enter under Filter Wake Lock? I did that, and when I Greenified Google Play Services last night and let it sit, my phone went from 100% to 8% in 7 hours! I don't know what is going on, I decided to just remove Play Services from Greenify, keep search there, and keep the wake lock terminator strings there, it seems to be ok. Wish I could get the Play services stuff to work in greenify though for the extra boost.
[G3 General] ehmjay:
this mod only improves deep sleep right?
[G3 General] runthenumbers:
For me it not only improved deep sleep but also while screen was in use but your mileage may vary.
[G3 General] jspring86:
I also have seen improvement with the screen on, even without Play services greenified. I'm still curious if anyone has an idea what I may have done wrong that caused such terrible results when Play services was greenified though.