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[HTC Excalibur] chaznet:
Sort of... if you return the device to T-Mobile with anything other than their ROM, they'll either charge you a restocking fee (full retail) or send it back -- and getting them to send it back is no minor undertaking. If you reflash it with their ROM, they won't know, at least they didn't with my 2nd SDA -- the first one I mistakingly left the iMate ROM on and it turned into a lengthy ordeal. Eventually, they sent it back, and I reflashed it, and sent it in again without issue.

It appears the shipping ROM isn't going to be posted at the HTC or T-Mobile sites. If and when they issue an update, then that'll be the new 'shipping' ROM we need to start playing around with the others :)

Personally, I'm fine with the T-Mobile ROM, except for the HotSpot stuff that loads on boot. I'd rather free up the memory, but haven't yet run into a hack that lets the device boot up without all that HotSpot junk.
[HTC Excalibur] arfan24:
loging to xda ftp site

Hi I keep getting rejection to log in to the FTP site, any idea why is that ? it keep saying permission denied

thank you
[HTC Excalibur] Nvious:
You sure its askin for permission? It never asked me??

ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com

That's weird??

Check with the Moderator "Pof"
[HTC Excalibur] 1wayjonny:
nice guide

nice will show this guide to my brother

the thing that has stopped us from upgrading his phone is that the Offical USA t-mobile rom is no where to be found incase he wants to flash back...

does anyone have this or can we back it up? please let us know so we can break the tmobile spell

also is it possible to get the tmobile APP called faves which stores his favorite contacts for free calls? i assume i can extract it

need some help - 1way
[HTC Excalibur] Nvious:
No one seems to have a program or anything that can back up existing Tmobile ROM's and no one can really find a release?

I've had no luck with it yet. Sorry
[HTC Excalibur] bkeaver:
FYI...I've been running the ROM this thread specifies for 2 weeks now without any problems. My biggest grip is that I wish someone would post a ROM with xt9 and put back the functionality of being able to press and hold a key to get the alternate characters.
[HTC Excalibur] chaznet:
I'd say the fact that you've lost some significant functionality and can't get it back the way it was isn't "without any problems". When a ROM update comes out, we'll have our 'shipping ROM'.
[HTC Excalibur] bkeaver:
well the fact the those 2 functions are gone done warrant to me that it has problems. Problems to me is the wifi no longer works or the phone freezes up or calls drop those are problems. the 2 things I listed are a can live without thing.
[HTC Excalibur] djdanska:
They will still bill the calls for free for the myfaves. You just have to use my.t-mobile.com to change the myfaves instead of the phone. You might know that but just incase someone else here did not know.
[HTC Excalibur] dabears05:
XT9 is the feature in which the phone tries to guess what you're typing??? It was a blessing to actually get rid of that feature! I could not stand it.
[HTC Excalibur] Nvious:
I'm with you on that.

It seems to me that the debate is just over having the existing ROM to reflash.

If you guys have concerns on having a backup ROM, reflashing a phone is out of the question.

I wrote this thread cause Tmobile's the only company that provides the S620.

I don't have Tmobile as well as many others but that doens't mean we should be SOL on this phone.

To be honest, i expected only NON tmobile customers to be reading this thread because it relates to them more. Its on how to unlock and reflash the phone for use with other carriers. if you are currently with Tmobile, i suggest you keep the existing ROM on there as that particular ROM was designed for Tmobile users.

For all you others, Lets keep the steam boat running.

Who has done this operation so far???

can i get a show of hands?

Problems?? anything?
[HTC Excalibur] 1wayjonny:
no i didnt but thanks that the only thing that was stopping the rom switch
[Samsung Gear S] senseijuan:
Anyone Interested in Buying the Samsung Gear S
[Samsung Gear S] SayWhat10:
Yes
[Samsung Gear S] ash99:
Yes
[Samsung Gear S] b.huss2:
Must definitely, paired with a note edge ;)
[Samsung Gear S] Att.Fan1982:
1+ :good:
[Samsung Gear S] rmont23:
yes
[Samsung Gear S] MrWicked1:
I definitely am just wish they would give us some more info on it
[Samsung Gear S] b.huss2:
Ikr, little to no news since announced.
[Samsung Gear S] Dmac1984:
I check every few hours for a confirmed release date, looks like samsung nailed it with this one, willing to retire the Gear 1 for it.
[Samsung Gear S] nerke:
I Found this

From an Australian website called gizmodo so I think the prices mean Australian Dollar so This are 311€.
[Samsung Gear S] Hovscorpion12:
Yes, If Samsung or carriers allow non- contract options. If U.S carriers treat the gear S with a monthly contract then No. I'm hopping Samsung will allow simple bluetooth connection for those who don't want to pay extra monthly payments to their cell carrier.
[Samsung Gear S] ronaldheld:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...-to-all-four-major-carriers-this-fall_id60989
[Samsung Gear S] b.huss2:
awesome news! :good:
[Samsung Gear S] ronaldheld:
Specially since Verizon will get it. I still have reservations about the usability as a web browser.
[Samsung Gear S] rmont23:
has anyone been able to stop by a AT&T store to take a look at it? and share your thoughts.
[Samsung Gear S] ronaldheld:
I tried today but the store did not have it in. I will try next week.
[Samsung Gear S] ronaldheld:
Before rushing to buy this watch one may have to consider this one http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...s-CDMA-connectivity-coming-to-Verizon_id61105. It may run Android not Tizen.
[Samsung Gear S] Grant Barker:
I'm pretty interested in the Samsung Gear S, too. I'm looking forward to seeing it here in Japan.
[Samsung Gear S] Dmac1984:
I went yesterday, drove two hours to the Raleigh location, def big but very premium and nice looking, no doubt when wearing it that it is a smartwatch. Unfortunately the AT&T people knew nothing, I mean nothing lol I think they were surprised it was even sitting there ... fortunately I knew what I was looking at. Problem was it wasn't turned on, and wouldn't turn on, not sure if that's on purpose or this at&t just sucked, but I played with it and the note 4 both very nice devices!

Want really stoked about the note 4 until after I played around with it yesterday, and have been looking forward to the watch since unveil! Refreshing Google looking for a release date, pricing and how they plan to do the sim option.
[Samsung Gear S] ronaldheld:
Still has not appeared at the nearest AT&T store.
[Samsung Gear S] rmont23:
Same here went to a AT&T store they knew nothing not even that it has a sim slot, no pricing, no date. Yeah it was also shut off. waiting for more info aswell as im getting it 4 sure.
[Samsung Gear S] ronaldheld:
Well seeing one is better than nothing. One not working is only marginally useful.
[Samsung Gear S] MrWicked1:
Samsung Gear S: http://youtu.be/CUhGfrUs860

Came accross that doing some searching had some info I hadn't heard yet along with October 17th release date they claim
[Samsung Gear S] ronaldheld:
It is coming out in the US before the Note 4?
[Samsung Gear S] MrWicked1:
I would doubt it personally
[Samsung Gear S] ampm325:
I had a gear2 and a neo. The camera was too creepy, so I'm glad it's not on the S.

I also used the neo to run, so I can't wait for the gps, and and 3g.

Give me streaming pandora, and I may leave my phone at home and just carry the watch.
[Samsung Gear S] gsxr150:
I assume it should run Pandora; since it has a web browser we should be able to download the app. Better be able to...that's a top reason I want the watch. Like you said, listening to Pandora while running. I'm just a little burned out on not knowing the pricing or release date.
[Samsung Gear S] MrWicked1:
Yeah this silence they're giving us is kinda bs they really need to let the public know what's going on. Atleast for anything to increase sells
[Samsung Gear S] rmont23:
Yeah why they make the public wait so long after they announce there products. Im sure if they was to have them available 1 week or so they'll sell alot more than they do.

Ill be getting one anyways.
[Samsung Gear S] ronaldheld:
Too much teasing for this product.
[Samsung Gear S] rfs830:
I have been looking for a device like this for a while. I wanted a watch that would show me notifications but wanted the watch to also be stand alone when I dont want to take my phone. I have been wanting to get a samsung watch and this looks to do everything I want. This will go well with my note 4. I also want to maybe get the gear circle. From what I can tell, you have to have your main phone turned on so it can push calls to this. Looks like you just have to add this as a data device so it will be a 10 dollar charge to your data share plan with att. I hope att gives us more information about this.
[Samsung Gear S] ampm325:
Should run Pandora, I hope so. Looks like it may be going for $470 in India. Here is the http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-gear-s-launches-india-470/link.

I did go to one of the At&t stores that had a demo model, but they had already cleared the display to make room for the Note 4, but the the manager anticipated selling the S in a couple weeks.
[Samsung Gear S] ronaldheld:
$470 seems a lot with a data plan. Maybe it will be bundled with another Samsung phone?
[Samsung Gear S] rfs830:
i was hoping the watch would be 350 to 400. I think they want to make sure the note 4 gets out first before they start telling up about this watch.
[Samsung Gear S] runningwarrior08:
Me also, and we may have our wish, It was released in UAE

http://gulfbusiness.com/2014/10/samsung-launches-flagship-galaxy-note-4-note-edge-gear-s-uae/

for Dhs1,299 which is about $353 US currency. :D
[Samsung Gear S] rfs830:
Now that is a good price.
[Samsung Gear S] ronaldheld:
We really need a release schedule and the local prices.
[Samsung Gear S] gsxr150:
Good point, but pricing has been all over the place. $350 is wishful thinking.

Yes, I'm about to buy a Moto 360 on principal alone.
[Samsung Gear S] MrWicked1:
Yeah I've been looking at the moto or the Asus zen watch
[Samsung Gear S] gsxr150:
I came up with this brilliant idea of selling my Gear 2 on ebay. WFT Samsung...you're leaving me hanging and I'm one of the biggest fans.
[Samsung Gear S] ampm325:
Just saw this. Interesting new option. http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/runway/2014/10/16/a-new-entrant-in-the-wearables-war-will-i-am/http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/runway/2014/10/16/a-new-entrant-in-the-wearables-war-will-i-am/
[Samsung Gear S] ronaldheld:
That watch will not run on Verizon. Waiting for more data on the LG watchphone.
[Samsung Gear S] ogre8:
I had a look at a functioning watch in the samsung store today,

The watch looks impressive but how to use it?

My ideal scenario is to put the 'phone number' sim in the watch and then data sim in my mobile phone. The watch has only 3g but phone calls does that matter? The browser in the phone is where high speed (4g) data is used, not phone calls right?

In an ideal world the phone could act blue tooth as a 'headset' for the watch so if a call comes in on the watch then you could still use the 'phone to the ear' mode if you have your phone with you. A complete swap of roles. I mean with this watch, you could always have the watch but only bring the phone when you choose meaning the main sim should live in the watch. Any thoughts?
[Samsung Gear S] ksantangelo23:
I hope Samsung says something soon about the US release. Its been almost two months since its announcement, but still no word :(
[Samsung Gear S] ampm325:
I like the idea of the watch being my main device, and leave my phone in the car or at home. I have as s5 and it has pocket dialed 911 at least 6 times.
[Samsung Gear S] rfs830:
I have never had any of my phones in all my years of having a smart phone pocket dial anyone.. ever. Do you have a case on your phone? Maybe put it in a pocket that has more space in it
[Samsung Gear S] MrWicked1:
Yeah neither have I, always wondered how people manage to do this.
[Samsung Gear S] ampm325:
I had to take it to a Samsung specialist and they made a few adjustments, I haven't pocket dialed 911 since.

I usually have it in a case and put it in my front pants pocket. The phone still constantly launches aps from my pocket.
[Samsung Gear S] bennie joe:
No longer interested...

I have been watching the developing smartwatch market closely for about half a year. I have been wanting one, but did not want to settle for something that did not fulfill all my needs. I considered the Moto 360 until I heard about the Gear S. I wanted it so much, I have been checking for release date information almost compulsively several times per day.

Here is what did not happen:

Samsung started releasing it elsewhere - but not here in the US.

No pricing information, no info about the additional SIM card and how that will work with US providers.(Costs, etc)

I heard the watch was being released together with the Note 4 in some markets and hoped until the last minute they would do the same over here.

October 17th came and went and no Gear S.

AT&T stores had it available for preview and it was dead for the first two times I went there. Nobody knew why it would not charge or how it worked. Nobody there had info about the second SIM card issue...or a rough idea about price and release date. By my third visit the device was being held in place with tape so it would keep charging and apparently the band was already damaged from people checking if they could damage it...

And here is what happened to my excitement about the Gear S:

I had lots of time to reconsider and do additional research on other devices.

I heard about the high cost of the device in places like India, the UK and Germany and it dampered my willingness to purchase

I heard the info about the additional plan / costs from Sprint - no way I am paying over $500 for a device that acts secondary to my phone and still pay to share the data with it.

I still have no idea how much it will cost and when it will be available for certain and have been frustrated about Samsung's lack of communication.

My work decided to go with iPhones - meaning my watch would only be compatible with my personal phone as long as I stick to my Note 3

I learned while Tizen is likely going to mean a longer battery life, it also lacks the amount of apps that are available for Android Wear devices.

(Thank you, I just suffered for years with my work Blackberry Bold, no need to repeat that experience)

And most importantly: Microsoft will be releasing a cross platform device with all the bells and wistles that the Gear S is supposed to have.

While MS has not yet launched, neither has the Gear S, so I might as well wait to check it out.

Had Samsung released the Gear S within a week or so after announcing, I would have paid the $500 as well as the additional $10 per month, I was so excited about it. Chances are, I would have regretted spending that much money, but if it is indeed such a great device, I would have surely loved it anyway.

Now, the frustrating wait, a ruined birthday earlier this month without a present (since I was holding out for it) and all my additional research not only will make me not buy the Gear S, but I may not even stick to the Samsung devices once my Note 3 is paid off. After all, if I get a cross-platform device in the future, I don't have to and Samsung has left a bitter taste in my mouth for sure...
[Samsung Gear S] gsxr150:
Bennie,

I share 100% in your frustration level, including seeing a non-working watch. The stores watch was not functioning and when I asked about it they had absolutely no idea how to answer my questions. This may be one of the poorest tech launches I've seen.

I would be satisfied having a release date, but I suspect there is more going on here.

First off, everyone interested in this product in the US has to understand the folks in leadership making the decisions are sworn to secrecy. I would imagine there were a lot of talks happening with US carriers, and my guess is there could have been some delays.

Sonsider what is happening around the world. For example, world events such as rioting, ebola, etc... In other words environmental factors. Samsung is not going to release a statement saying "sorry we've been delayed"; they would rather sit on it until they are ready to launch.

Although I don't think people are going to line up for the Gear S, I know for a fact there are many people in your position. We feel like we are loyal Samsung customers and we're frustrated to be left hanging and observing a "shady" product launch. As if ATT and Sprint stores are treating it as some second rate product...

Something is not right that it would be launched for a preview at ATT stores so far in advance of the release date. It would (and has) lost steam, especially when the employees have no idea how to answer any of the questions, and most likely have not been trained. Samsung should pull the product until they are ready for a real launch.
[Samsung Gear S] ronaldheld:
What is the point of displaying a non functioning watch with staff who do not understand it?
[Samsung Gear S] rfs830:
I too think that the hold up right now is how the cell providers are going to charge for this. I think att already had an idea on how they want to proceed but I think samsung is waiting till all are ready to go at the same time. I still wish they would tell us something about it. Note 4 launch is finished and is behind us now. Next is the Gear S.
[Samsung Gear S] HappeningDude:
I am interested in getting the Gear S to act as a backup phone. I just hope it doesn't require a Samsung Phone to setup in order to use voice call and sms.

It is going to be launched soon in early November in this part of the world.
[Samsung Gear S] gsxr150:
I'm going to get one too. The Easter Bunny is bringing mine.:rolleyes:
[Samsung Gear S] MrWicked1:
I think by the time its released the grim reaper will bring me mine. :fingers-crossed:
[Samsung Gear S] bennie joe:
Easter Bunny?

By the time the Easter Bunny arrives, Samsung will probably already have announced the next one and the Gear S will be obsolete...
[Samsung Gear S] ronaldheld:
I want one but if Samsung is too later, LG and others may produce superior products or bones at lower prices.
[Samsung Gear S] demmo81:
I just bought 1 today it's really cool and work without a phone as it has Sim card or even u can use it with WiFi directly .. but still the apps are limited.. I hope whatsapp and viber will develop for tizen os as its growing now
[Samsung Gear S] gsxr150:
I am not sure where you are located, but I am hearing reports of bad battery life with a SIM card. I'm hearing that it's not getting one whole day of battery. Eeek, that's not good.

Some people have joked about the Gear S2 being ready for release by the time the Gear S1 arrives... Honestly, this could be the truth. Think about the Gear 1. What....it was out for 6 months and the Gear 2 hit? This makes me think I should focus on finding one on the used market AFTER they launch.
[Samsung Gear S] bennie joe:
Where?

Where are you located (which country) and where did you buy it?
[Samsung Gear S] HappeningDude:
Congratz on getting yours. Mine is arriving tomorrow. :) Just curious, do you need a Samsung phone to setup the watch?
[Samsung Gear S] demmo81:
Hey guys I live in bahrain in the middle east I got it from Samsung store. The battery so far it's not bad and it says for a day I assure u that :) and also it depend on how u use it :) I connect it to the note 3 but u can use it as stand alone as I mentioned earlier
[Samsung Gear S] dantesan702:
does this use a microsim or nanosim?
[Samsung Gear S] MrWicked1:
Well this is some good news finally someone is getting a hold of it
[Samsung Gear S] demmo81:
It's nice one from 5 am till now it's 1215 I have 64 remaining juice
[Samsung Gear S] ronaldheld:
Good to see someone has one. I am more interested in the standalone functionality and battery life.
[Samsung Gear S] demmo81:
I was making some calls and playing some music and off course just touching the screen :) and it's up from 5 am till now with 49% juice plus I connected it to my note 3 so I think the battery is good
[Samsung Gear S] rfs830:
nice. Cant wait to see more videos about this.
[Samsung Gear S] demmo81:
For me.I need viber and whatsapp or Facebook at least to run in this thing.. it shows only the notifications s :(
[Samsung Gear S] joytest:
I got mine on 15 October but only just found this forum.

I posted this on G+ 1 week back

https://plus.google.com/110586390476886381835/posts/2kYK26DAGrG

I use it as my primary phone on my personal line, but that's cause I rarely make or receive calls on my personal number.

It is on 3G with a data connection all the time, and it lasts from about 9am to 3-4pm this way if I make 4-5 calls of about 2-3mins each. Otherwise battery lasts till about 6pm. Note that the signal reception at my office is quite bad, so this likely contributes to poor battery life.

I do not tether it to any phone except once every few days when I want to sync or check out apps.

I use it because it's like the Holy Grail of portable electronics in the last 5 decades....a phone on your wrist. Not only that, it's a full blown computer as well. Plays music, sends SMS, internet browsing.....only thing missing is a camera.
[Samsung Gear S] avenging:
wait its available already in bahrain? lol no news about note edge? i need to check this out when i go back to city center hehe.

u guys should make a review thread
[Samsung Gear S] gsxr150:
Thanks for the info from you and others. It's nice to see some reviews popping up finally! It sounds like using it as a phone is the weakness...meaning it kills the battery. 9AM-3PM with only 4-5, 2-minute calls is not very good, is it?
[Samsung Gear S] joytest:
Well no it isn't all that good as a phone......but the wow factor is still there.
[Samsung Gear S] demmo81:
I got it from Samsung shop actually in exhibition road gosi complex branch it's there by 140 bd.. and it's really cool thing to have the only thing missing as at least reply what's app or transfer the call of viber on it like normal Bluetooth hopefully the developers will do such thing for us in the future...
[Samsung Gear S] avenging:
how about surfing on it is it good (yes tiny screen but im interested how the experience is)
[Samsung Gear S] joytest:
Here's my review with 36 photos on G+

https://plus.google.com/+JoyTestwick/posts/HojMwRq1jMS
[Samsung Gear S] rmont23:
joytest, can you reply to all Emails with the keyboard?
[Samsung Gear S] joytest:
I did not set up the email client, since I guess that's going to lead to even worse battery life.

I do suppose you could hammer out short emails, as the other Gears could do, but seriously, I do not wish to be constrained by a 2" screen for media/content CREATION.
[Samsung Gear S] rmont23:
what about from email app notifications from the phone?
[Samsung Gear S] gsxr150:
What will likely happen is shortly after the launch of the GS, the GS2 will arrive...with better battery life. Just like they fine tuned the Gear 1 to the Gear 2. It's a start though.

It's still a unicorn here in the USA. So we'll see...
[Samsung Gear S] joytest:
Check out the review thread I just posted.

http://xdaforums.com/gear-s/general/review-gear-s-2-weeks-phone-t2922413
[Samsung Gear S] gsxr150:
Yep, thanks! A fun read! One day we'll find out a release date for the USA. By then you'll be reviewing the Gear S2, ha.
[Samsung Gear S] Dmac1984:
For the love of god! I just want one already! Lol what is the hold up? I even tried to find a place to order one overseas in Bahrain last night. No luck.

TAKE MY MONEY AT&T AND SAMSUNG! I'VE BEEN HOLDING IT OUT IN FRONT OF YOU FOR 2 MONTHS NOW. JUST TAKE IT!

Man I hope this thing is as cool I think it is, or this annoying wait will be for nothing.

end rant.