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[G3 General] JeffDC:
I'd be interested if a poll could be put up, for folks who either got this working... and it worked well, -vs- folks who could not get it working. The furthest I have gotten, though all the steps followed as well as I could 'read'... was that GPS and GS had been frozen, turned into appgs, and following that no longer worked, and I was unable to install their app versions/restore them. The rest of the phone seemed to work ok. I've tried the mod x4

TWRP is my friend.
[G3 General] jspring86:
So I took a screenshot in Greenify of what I'm seeing. It also seems that when I Greenify GPS I the app names in Greenify are blinking, its strange. I'm not sure what I've done wrong, still open to suggestions, maybe the picture will help, does this look OK to everyone who got it to work without issue?
[G3 General] coorsleftfield:
Since this requires xposed is it safe to assume you can't be on ART?
[G3 General] Pfeffernuss:
Bingo :good:
[G3 General] coorsleftfield:
ART is the fix for most of the lag issues on this phone. Also with the 5.0 update coming in December, a battery fix based on Dalvik is a non starter.
[G3 General] midyat47:
I cant see google play service in greenify.

I open google play and maps but still not showing up in greenify.
[G3 General] mathsmart:
In greenify click top right option show all

From Lg G3 "the beast"
[G3 General] midyat47:
I did that but nothing.

I have the free version of greenify, maybe thats the problem?
[G3 General] mathsmart:
U have to pay to acces experimental feature anyway I guess

From Lg G3 "the beast"
[G3 General] BreakingVZW:
Yes. This morning my deep sleep stat in bbs was at 99%. Battery didn't drop one percent all night.

---------- Post added at 03:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:38 PM ----------

That's in the OP lol
[G3 General] jeffmena93:
So I think the mod just simply stopped working, I think the reason might be the google play services runs by itself everytime the screen is unlocked and I'm not really sure if it keeps itself hibernated when screen is off.

Any idea what's going on?
[G3 General] BreakingVZW:
So people shouldn't use this until then if they want better battery performance? If you don't want to use the method then don't. Posting something shooting down a method that has legitimate results for the people that use it is helpful. 5.0 is supposedly more battery friendly. The December date will most likely be for GPE Nexus devices followed by carrier branded devices months later. That's then. Clearly a lot of us want battery life out of our device and have posted positive results with this method. My device doesn't lag. I'll take xposed tweaks and this "non starter" method until we get Lollipop. Thanks for trolling at random though. *high five*
[G3 General] coorsleftfield:
I don't see that point out the trade off between lag, which a lot of us had and battery life is trolling. Don't be an idiot.
[G3 General] Japultra:
Has anyone who has tried this found that sometimes notifications don't arrive until you "wake" your phone up by turning on the screen? This happens to me several times a day.
[G3 General] Jagdish84:
I had the same experience...

Im on ART since i got my G3 and can feel the difference between ART Runtime and Dalvik so Xposed is a no go for me.

What i did instead is installing App Ops from playstore and deprived the location and keep awake from Google Play Services, i think it has the same effect only now im using ART and get my notifications on time, thats my experience, i hope it helps those who want to keep ART and still not suffer from this wakelock...
[G3 General] BreakingVZW:
I don't even know what you trying to say. Your sentence structuring is epic. But sure... I'm being an idiot lol
[G3 General] jspring86:
I finally got the Play Services Greenify thing to work, but now Hangouts seems to be going crazy by waking up my device, anyone have any suggestions? I still can't get this 0-1% decrease when leaving the phone overnight, my phone is still dropping 1-1.5% per hour overnight. Attaching my stats below.
[G3 General] Japultra:
My phone only drops 1% overnight if I put it on airplane mode.
[G3 General] Marcovanbasten:
And how much if you turn it off? [emoji1]
[G3 General] BreakingVZW:
My phone only drops 1% always with WiFi on all night. Why does your device hate you? :P
[G3 General] mathsmart:
I dunnot if its was only a perception from me but seemed that when I used the phone googleplay service started and my battery seem to be a bit worst than before and the phone feel a bit more laggy ..could be just me, I just flashed latest cloudy 1.2 without the mod right now to see ..
[G3 General] qbanlinxx:
November 12 is tentatively the date for Nexus 5, and the December date we have is for our previous G3...
[G3 General] Vivasanti:
I find that "ok google" from anyscreen (google search) uses next to nothing, i have greenified all i have to an i use about 1% every 8-9 hours - thats with OG from any screen enabled.
[G3 General] Molius:
So after using this mod for some time now there are few things I've noticed:

1. In most cases it's working as intended - increases deep sleep time thus prolongs battery life when idling;

2. Play services is quite often woken up by other apps (mostly, google ones), so I've removed/hibernated the ones that I don't need (retaining push notifications);

3. However, in some cases there happens to be quite persistant app which constantly keeps waking up the play services thus greenify cannot hibernate it properly and the phone gets stuck in a loop, where it constantly trying to hibernate the play services and failing at that. This is the real battery killer - haven't found any other solution besides restarting the phone. So I believe this case could be the problem for those who gets worse battery life / lags after applying the mod.
[G3 General] lewonsky:
I suggest u try this app

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smartprojects.RootCleaner

It cleans some dormant or unused files and I used it . Seems to improve battery life . Still testing
[G3 General] runthenumbers:
Finally getting the kind of battery life I was hoping for.
[G3 General] diosjeremy:
It's strange... At first I got it to.work perfectly... It drained only 1% over night ... But now, 1 week later... It's back to draining 10% on 8 hours :(
[G3 General] BreakingVZW:
According to reports LG is going to be releasing 5.0 on G3 this week in Poland only initially and then continuous rollout thereafter for other regions and even beating Nexus devices release of the software. I hope that's the case. I'd like to see OEMs take that kind of approach to software updates but until I actually see it happen I'm not holding my breath. Not sure what you meant by "previous G3".
[G3 General] caspertodd:
I was getting great battery life with this, but I am now having problems with SmartThings, and how it accesses my GPS. Not sure if this caused it or not, but I reversed the process, and will know when I get a chance to test it if it is working again. I also decided that I miss OK Google, But now that I have reversed this battery drain fix, I cannot get "OK Google" to work any more. I backed up both Google Search and the Google Play Services before doing anything, and have restored them, but that didn't fix it. I've un-greenified everything also. When I go into Google Search, and go to settings, voice, "ok google" detection, I only have the option "from Google Search app", but not from any screen. I have completely removed Google search, and re-installed from the market, but that didn't work either. I also searched, from within google search, "ok google everywhere" (some people were reporting that this somehow added the any screen option), nothing seems to work. Anyone have any ideas on how to get "Ok Google from Any Screen" working again? Thanks for any help you can give me!

By the way, this battery fix did work great! Just couldn't figure out my SmartThings issue, and I guess I'm one of those weirdos that seem to like "Ok google" for some reason.
[G3 General] diosjeremy:
Hi, can someone give me a hand with my problem... I did this and got it working great.... It only used 1% over night.... But now 1 week later It's taking 10% over night...and I haven't changed almost nothing :(
[G3 General] TheKaser:
can you give more details on your setup? like what apps you greenified, brightness of the screen, always on wifi or not...

thanks!
[G3 General] diminou91:
You should check with better battery stats what cause your drain first :)
[G3 General] denis4o:
I cannot find these options, neither "always ignore its running state", nor "state always ignored for hibernation", nor "reconsider state"
[G3 General] runthenumbers:
Nothing out of the ordinary. I'm on cloudy 1.1 and use greenify with the play services fix explained here. I don't bother with unbounce anymore. I keep location/4g/etc off when not in use. Other than that I just keep the brightness relatively low (50%)
[G3 General] brian88:
Me too, something changed?
[G3 General] atrix4nag:
ME too, any help will be appriciated..
[G3 General] tmord1:
Me three, I fortunately saved a backup of the "greenify 2.5 beta 3" and keep this running in lieu to taking the update until I figure this out. If you can get the 2.5 beta 3 version, in the greenify app, highlight "google play service" (gps) while it is running (not hibernated)'; I used the suggestion to open google maps to activate gps. Once gps is highlighted in greenify, click on the 'zzz' and you will be prompted to allow hibernation in all states. Good luck.
[G3 General] atrix4nag:
Thanks for the response, but unfortunately, i dont have any back up. I am on 2.5 version from google play services.
[G3 General] atrix4nag:
always ignore its running state

I dont know, how its displayed,

Steps i did:

in experimental features, selected check box, 'Telephony wakeup'

then selected the running google play services and clicked zzz button, i got the popup to select 'always ignore its running state'. I am not sure selecting Telephony wakeup check box did the trick or not. But i got it. so try your luck.
[G3 General] itch808:
I'm not sure if anyone else has encountered this and can help me.

I decided to reverse this because I felt like the effect on battery life was minimal and I wanted back "Ok Google" from any screen + lockscreen. I used TiBu to revert the process and restarted. But now I don't see the option anymore to hit the checkbox for "Ok Google" anywhere. It only has the option from within the app. Is there something else I need to do???

I've re-converted both search and services to system apps and removed them from greenify.
[G3 General] itch808:
Anyone?!??!
[G3 General] srimay:
Try reflashing your ROM. Dirty should work so you don't have to set everything up again
[G3 General] insang-droid:
Mine does the same sometimes. I just have to reboot and it goes back to being good again
[G3 General] lewonsky:
I am using the m8 port Rom Arthur.

Not sure if the other roms have this but u can see from the screenshot below u can restrict data for Google play services
[G3 General] Celesica:
Hi, as of the moment Greenify doesn't detect Google Play Services from the wizard. I don't use Titanium Back Up Pro, but might do if you can confirm GPlay Services can be greenified after I convert it to user app?
[G3 General] BreakingVZW:
That's the entire point of converting it to a user app. So you don't have to worry about greenifying system apps. So yes. It works.
[G3 General] Celesica:
Thanks. I've been trying to figure out why it's not detected in the Greenify wizard.
[G3 General] shiniyoyo:
when searching for apps to greenify, press the 3-dot button and check the "show all" box
[G3 General] rafaelw:
Sometimes when i enter greenify it appears that it could not hibernate the google p service (not always ). Do you know why this happens? It appears to be something with some app that runs the google services is running too(maps, or other) but i don't know if is reaaly this.

Besides that, thanks for this tut cause reaaly helps the battery pretty much
[G3 General] EuEra:
Are you certain this doesn't affect gcm messaging? Im not getting whatsapp messages when both are greenified. Currently i have google play services greenified and whatsapp is not and i am getting messages again but as soon as i greenify whatsapp also the messages dont come until i open whatsapp. I have xposed enabled im in boost mode i have the donation package with everything ticked.
[G3 General] Jagdish84:
Guys, I'm using disableservice app to disable just the nlpcollector and networklocation service of Google play services and don't have that wakelock no more... I'm using lollipop... This method was posted on westcrips thread, I can't remember the name of the poster but credit goes to him!

Sent from my caseless LG G3, because I believe in myself
[G3 General] Marcovanbasten:
Could you find the thread link?
[G3 General] Jagdish84:
Right, this is the original post

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=57793176&postcount=455

credits to bo-l for sharing this with us.
[G3 General] Saratoga79:
You may also check this thread: http://xdaforums.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-google-play-services-battery-t2832525
[G3 General] garlnt:
Hi,

I updated to lollipop a few days back.

Since the update the phone battery dies in few hours even in idle mode

I hav tried keeping gps off wifi off, location off

I also disabled google play store, maps, play services etc.

Better battery stats and gsam monitor show that the massive drain is due to "android system", which causes massive drain.

it keeps cpu awake for long
[G3 General] RajRockyBalboa:
This disables google Maps location locking...not a feasible solution :(
[G3 General] Pfeffernuss:
It does not. It's a seperate service.
[G3 General] :
Xposed is dead. at least to LP users. so this guide wont be helping alot of users but still appreciate the effort.
[G3 General] frozt28:
So after reading this entire thread can someone just give a simple yes or no as to whether or not this actually works/makes a difference?

All I hear is that op did a terrible job of explaining how to do this.
[G3 General] JohnRM:
I too have been using just disableservice only, no other tweaks, and I have disabled as much as I dare while keeping play services working (I buy many games and apps). I don't want to go down the greenify route, or convert the app. I was shocked this morning to see play services taking 70% battery, while screen (45% brightness) only 2%, even after all the tweaks such as disabled wifi, gps, Bluetooth, NFC, and the disableservice tweaks.

Is there a list of everything we can disable in disableservice, while still keeping a functional google play store ?
[G3 General] NegativeOne:
I don't think I could ever find confirmation on what this wakelock is actually for... anyone confirm?
[G3 General] JohnRM:
There is a decent thread in the N6 forums here

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/general/disabling-google-play-services-guide-t2999821

We could do with a similar thread here, only without the pics, text would better. Lots of things look like they are N6 only, and of course different versions of google play store services, incl KitKat and lollipop.
[G3 General] Verrocio:
Will device manager still work with 5.0.89 without any issues ?

Did https api support start in 6.1~6.1.74 ? Or was partial support available earlier than that ?
[G3 General] shahkam:
Im testing currently but i have an issue i followed everything posted on OP except greenify part...

Anyways everytime i open hangouts it says : unknown issue with google play services ...

The only thing that works temporarily is restoring with titanium backup google play services ... And thats until i reboot !

Can someone help me ? Its really annoying
[G3 General] johanlh:
It worked really well, thank you
[G3 General] Jagdish84:
I used 3c to disable the services and used disable service app from play store to export the list... Just place at the root of storage and restore via disable service application... Hope you guys will find it useful...

https://app.box.com/s/qpd88z8owrwfnffihdksbc3zbr6wklb5

Sent from my caseless LG G3, because I believe in myself
[G3 General] Verrocio:
I think a better way would be to stay on either 5.0.89 or 6.1.88 (latest cleanup versions).

But two important question still remain. Was https api support available in 5.0.89 and how do we stop GPS (gms) from updating itself ?
[G3 General] ClownShoes:
Afternoon fellas,

So I have a couple of quick (maybe stupid) questions...

1. What is the purpose behind freezing and converting google play services and google search to user apps? Is it purely so that Greenify can hibernate them? With the paid version I can hibernate them both as system apps. Maybe I'm missing something here?

2. As wakelock terminator is not yet working with the new ART friendly beta of Xposed, I have turned to Amplify (formerly Unbounce) instead. Does anyone here have any good settings they can suggest?

On a final note. When reading through this thread, I noticed quite a few people mentioning delays in receiving their push notifications. It's worth remembering that if you set 'Wakeup timer coalescing' in Greenify, it will have this effect, as Greenify is deliberately reducing the amount of times your phone is woken by various apps and processes.
[G3 General] robert1337:
just a question, the greenify app keep waking the google play services (greenify 2.6.1) is this normal?

or should i use older version of greenify? if so, which version?

i followed every step from the OP
[G3 General] Nokiacrazi:
Having the exact same thing. Previously without greenify, was getting fairly consistent wakes by Google play services/app. But the device would deep sleep 75% of the time. After I greenified Google app I get constant wakelock from Google play services. Device sleep 5% of time.
[G3 General] Spaceboy60:
Don't seem to have a nipcollector service under google play services. Is it known as anything else?
[G3 General] PIRATA!:
Hi there!

Are the things listed in OP still good for Lollipop?

Tnx.
[G3 General] Ashieboy™:
Mine's stock on bootloop after step 3
[G3 General] Molius:
Hi, same for me. Had to reflash the firmware since I didn't have a proper backup.
[G3 General] srimay:
[MENTION=5272949]Helmetheadog[/MENTION] could you slide me a copy of wakelock terminator app in a PM? For some reason it's not available in the play store and there are no links to it anywhere in Google land.
[G3 General] LGtMgG2t:
I can tell you that from my experience most of the original data posted still works and is valid in Lollipop. I've been testing on several LP ROMs for the past week or two. It does seem that some of the wakelocks might be named differently in LP but I'm not 100% sure of it yet.
[G3 General] bloodclot:
I recommend Amplify. Instead of completely disabling wakelocks and alarms it puts a timer on them so they still work when you need them and won't activate as often.
[G3 General] Nyomandwipa:
Can someone give me link exposed frmaework for G3 MM?
[G3 General] kuchynek:
SOLVED!

Hi, I had the same problem, bootloop from lockscreen (system started normally, them lockscreen showed up, I tried to unlock it but it reboots so quickly that I cannot do anything). So I restarted, then enter the recovery menu (by pressing VOL DOWN + POWER buttons whille LG logo appears) and from it mount the system folder, then inside recovery menu open filemanager (under advanced in TWPR) then go to /data/app/com.google.android.gms-1 and inside this directory just rename base.apk to e.g. "base.apkk" (add something to change suffix). Reboot the system in the end in my case work like a charm :cowboy: :angel:
[G3 General] lewonsky:
I also come up with a guide .maybe I should include this there too

---------- Post added at 12:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:03 PM ----------

Anyway Google play services can be downloaded and installed easily from the web as a separate apk if u accidentally uninstalled it. So no worries here .
[G3 General] Darkrider82:
Where do I find the option to enable ""state always ignored for hibernation"

Can anyone post a screenshot of it?

Thank you very much....
[G3 General] esimon311:
I just use titanium backup to make Google search and play store services user apps... Less steps.

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[G3 General] chasy:
My thought as well but it takes forever on my phone and nothing seems to happen?!
[G3 General] Darkrider82:
... same here! After restarting the phone the apps are still system apps...
[G3 General] abhi08638:
Would doing this disable push notifications since you're greenifying play services?

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[G3 General] Osama Zabin:
De-greenify Google Play Services, greenify it again, you will find it in the list of applications in Greenify application.

Try to hibernate it now, you should see pop up window like the one attached, make sure to tick the only check box.

***EDIT***

Without disabling some related wakelocks, hibernation Google Play Services is useless, many and many applications are repeatedly invoking Google Play Services.
[G3 General] gdonanthony:
i dont use google search so is it okay to freeze it using TB ?
[G3 General] atrix4nag:
After i deleted google play services app, it is not allowig me to install it. it is giving option to select gmail id, once i select my gmail id, nothign happens..same pop up comes back.. :(

anyone has google services apk?

Downloaded apk on web..
[G3 General] Helmetheadog:
Yes, it seems I failed to mention that you have to let your phone run a little while and go check greenify to see if Google play services has woken itself up. When it has, highlight play services and in the bottom right, click the three dots. state always ignored for hibernation should now be visible.
[G3 General] Helmetheadog:
I would recommend using xprivacy (xposed module) instead of app ops. However, unfortunately, using either xprivacy or app ops does limit funtionality, and my method does not.
[G3 General] Helmetheadog:
For me, I actually don't lose any push notifications with this method. I thought exactly as you do when I was testing this, but the notifications do find their way through. I will edit my post to provide information on how to make sure notifications work. Thanks for your input
[G3 General] Helmetheadog:
Some phones may simply need more time to uninstall it. Not sure why it takes so long for some people. Hopefully we'll find a solution for this soon.
[G3 General] Helmetheadog:
It should be OK to freeze. I made this guide to retain the functionality of Google Search and not have the wake locks with it, however if you don't want it you can freeze it.
[G3 General] Mahapederdon:
I just purchased the greenify so I can use it for system apps. I'll try that way and see how it works. Thanks for the thread man.
[G3 General] Helmetheadog:
No problem. However, greenify is unfortunately unable to hibernate google search and play services when they are still system apps. They always find a way to resurrect themselves.
[G3 General] Mahapederdon:
Stupid system apps. They act like they own the place. Haha. Thanks for the heads up.
[G3 General] phonehead6720:
Thanks for the tips OP, I'm having issues with google play services and also ok google now only works from the home screen (there is no option to enable for all screens or lock screen anymore). I think this has to do with changing it from a system app to a user app. I tried just putting it back into system/app but I'm getting force closes. So question - how do I undo what you have suggested? I know I can return to stock but is there an easier process to putting the google play services / search back as system apps they way they were? Thanks!
[G3 General] Colchiro:
That was the first thing that came to my mind after reading the OP. :D
[G3 General] Mahapederdon:
Don't try that. I did it and it went for about 2 hours and never finished. Now my phone is kinda jacked up. Oops. I gonna try and delete it altogether and download it.
[G3 General] Helmetheadog:
Sure, if you did a nandroid backup you can restore it. If you backed up both apps with titanium backup prior to uninstallation, you can restore it that way. Just scroll to the bottom of the app listing in TB and they will be there.