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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sic_lic1o1:
Tether works great using the built in tether. Even usb tether works for his note 2. I have him turn on his tethering if i need something done on the computer.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mocsab:
I have awesome service- I had the NOte 3 from TMOBILE on ATT and had no issues - I did even try TMOBILE for a while and the only way I could get phone service in my house is if I used Wi Fi Calling. THat seemed pretty pitiful to me - so I canceld TMOBILE and wen back to ATT - and at least the service here in WIsconsin has been great.

I purchased the S5 and still get great coverage on ATT using a TOMOBILE S5 - so I don't know about the area you are in - but I know for me - Tmobile PHones get great coverage on the ATT Network and will not hesitate buying another TOMOBILE phone for use on ATT.

And besides - because of the Locked BOOTLOADER on ATT the S4 was the last ATT PHONE I will ever buy - - I will never buy an ATT Phone again and I don't feel TMOBILE provides the coverage or speed I need where I live and even where I travel for work - so if I were you, I wouldn't hesitate - IMHO the TMOBILE note 4 will work beautifully on ATT
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] spinedoc:
Thanks guys, awesome information. So now I know that using the Tmobile one on ATT the tethering will work. My last unanswered question is if my microcell will work. Anyone use an ATT microcell with Tmobile hardware on the ATT network?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] killa2009:
Mine says the same as yours
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mocsab:
I don't know what "microcell" is - but if it is a sort of "signal repeater" you use to boost signal in your home (Sprint had something like this when I was with them) then no, I am pretty sure that will not work on ATT - But I am only guessing what you mean by Microcell - to my knowledge, ATT doesn't offer one - at least not that I am aware of ...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] adorkablejuliep:
My preorder estimated delivery date says Oct 18 which coincides with Tmo's announcement to androidpolice shipments would not begin until the 17th. I paid $25 for overnight delivery to my office so not too happy about that since it's a Saturday and I would have to wait until Monday... Hope they ship it out sooner than Friday like previous preorders or I'm gonna be regretting my decision to not just walk in the store Friday morning! I remember when I did my S5, I did regular ground and got it on launch day...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] spinedoc:
The microcell is offered from AT&T, it connects to your internet network and boosts your signal: http://www.att.com/standalone/3gmicrocell/?fbid=xOF08n6Zdes
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mocsab:
thanks - I wasn't aware it existed - I personally don't need it as I get awesome coverage at home - but it's nice to know, thanks!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] rekman:
I probably missed it somewhere, but how does one go about ordering one from t-mobile at full price without a plan to use on ATT? I apologize if I missed someone's post already explaining this.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Kawaisa:
You can't during pre-order season. You can after it's released by going into a store.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] rekman:
will they unlock it for me since it will be fully paid for or do I have to look into an unlocking site or wait for something like chainfire's app?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Kawaisa:
40 days of active service with T-Mobile
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Flame Red:
You pre-order it at full price and pick the cheapest plan. As the UPS truck drives away after delivering it, call them (way before the 14 day cancellation period ends) and tell them you are exercising your right to terminate service. If they hassle you, tell them you cannot get service in your location. Don't wait beyond the 14 days or you get locked in.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] CZ Eddie:
1) If I only upgrade phones once a year, is "Jump" worth while?

2) If I do a pre-order today, does TMO charge you right away for the phone or do you get charged on release day instead?

I'll likely be doing the $414 up-front, then $13/month purchase plan for the N4.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Baratheonist:
It wouldn't' matter if you canceled service. Tmobile won't unlock it not until 40 days after activation. You can even purchase the Note 4 full price WITHOUT service on release day (17th). The same condition will apply. This wait time discourages people from purchasing hardware and using another competitor's service which cuts into their inventory. Tmobile loses and gains nothing or very little from it.

It's not about your right as a consumer. It's about T mobile protecting their supply for people who actually want Tmobile service. It's their prerogative and priority.

You want an unlocked phone at the get go? Get an unlocked phone model from Samsung.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Kawaisa:
Anyone know if it's possible to take part in the Samsung promo if I have jump? Since I'm already trading in the old jump phone, I can't trade in another device for that line since you're trading in the old EIP JUMP phone right?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] rekman:
I understand that tmobile wants you to wait a set time before they'll unlock it for you. But I know of other services/apps out there that are able to get your phone sim unlocked without tmobile stepping in. I'm starting to accept that i'd have to order the phone full price with a plan and then cancel the plan. I glanced over tmobile's terms of service and it get's a little unsettling when you read about how they could ask for the device back and or end up charging you even more than the full off contract price if you cancel their plan. I've seen multiple posts throughout xda forums from people on att purchasing phones from tmobile and using them on att with minimal issues. I just don't always like to push my luck. So I'm not sure if i should just eat att's locked bootloader, or wait until more information comes out after the tmobile release.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] dman5959:
So, if I pre-order the Note 4 I should receive it by the 17th? The rep told me that they are shipping the phones out on the 17th the release date. If that so, I rather go into the store on the 17th to pick it up.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Baratheonist:
^^ Don't get me wrong. I dislike their unlock policies too but i can understand why tmobile enforces it.

I needed my note 3 unlocked for a vacation/trip abroad but they wouldn't do so because my phone was on the EIP, despite being a post paid subscriber since 2012. Cost me $30 from an online 3rd party service.

I don't think the unlock codes would be available on day 1 though. Probably between 7-10 days?

In your case, I'd wait a few days for feedback on interchangeability of the tmobile phone with AT&T although I don't see any major performance issues. Or if you can really wait for international unlocked variants to be available in Newegg, Best Buy or some other US retailer.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] chong67:
In the past, any Samsung international vairant will not work with LTE on some of the USA carriers and will not get USA warranty. I'll stick to the a T-mobile unlocked and use anywhere in the world. You can also get it unlock without using Tmobile.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] NICEGYPT:
So if I did order mine online I am going to get it by the release date the 17th or they will ship that day and I have to wait 4 days until it delivery? I never preorder anything so I have no clue :)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] JimSmith94:
Two T-Mobile store employees told me it should be delivered on the 17th at the latest, and probably a day or two earlier.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] adorkablejuliep:
Is that for people who paid for overnight or ground? I paid for overnight and my estimated delivery date is the 18th.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] soondolee:
Anyone know answer to this question? I am gonna do the same thing.

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Anyone know answer to this question?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sic_lic1o1:
Just for reference, i preordered the note 3 last year from tmobile, i paid for normal ground shipping. Tmobile shipped the phone out on the release day. I didn't get my phone until 4 or 5 days later. I don't know how they're going to do it this year.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] csmits:
Nooe, can't trade in a phone if your using jump.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] aooga:
Where do you see the date? I really wouldn't listen to any of this info. One of two things will happen. It will be shipped before the 17th to get to customers on the 17th, or it'll be shipped on the 17th and get there either 1 day or 3-5 days later.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] adorkablejuliep:
Nevermind, I called around different stores and 611 and they all told my me preorder would not ship until 10/17 so my overnight delivery would arrive on 10/18. They allowed me to cancel including shipping costs but warned me not every store would be getting it on launch day and the stores that would, would only get a limited number. Not sure if they were trying to prevent my cancellation but did it anyway. Would rather wait if that's the case then pay $25 for overnight and get it later.

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It was on my order confirmation and if you call in 611 and ask, they will give you your estimated date of delivery.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] dman5959:
Seems like I rather take my chances and going to the local store if they going to ship it out on the 17th! Why pre-order if you going to receive it after the official release date.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] MMakoto:
So I've just went to the store and pre ordered, but there is this pcf1kt (soc) fee of $49, anyone what this is?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] twoeleven99:
Every preorder phone ive ever had on tmo came before official release date

SkyDragon G3
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] AssassinsLament:
Last year, they didn't ship my note 3 until the day before release day. I remember those who had paid for next day, got it on release day. I, on the other hand, thinking/hoping that i would get it release day... didn't get it until Monday. Could be different with the note 4. Just an fyi.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] JimSmith94:
They didn't say, but based on previous releases, they said everybody gets them on or before release date. Hopefully yours will be earlier.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] adorkablejuliep:
They said it was to guarantee that one of the phones at launch would be yours, not that you would get it on launch day (lame!)

My s5 came day after BUT I did ground. I vaguely remember though that the s5 was supposed to be guaranteed delivery by the launch date though I could be mistaken. I was pretty annoyed though that I had to wait for the UPS guy to come when my friends had just strolled in from the store and picked one up. It was hard to not pre-order though considering the hype! I'm sure some people will get it on release day or prior but I don't want to risk it coming late when I'm paying for overnight. Would rather just pick it up at launch! If I knew for sure it'd come early, it'd be worth the shipping.

Well I spoke to multiple reps whom all told me it would be delivered on the 18th so I cancelled it and will just get it in store.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mocsab:
I paid for an unlock code on my S5 and Note 3 and got them both on the first day I bought the phone (both were pre-ordered - and both came in a day or two before the actual release date) just sharing my experience.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] getbuzzin:
The only reason that I can think of to pre order is too get the $200 promotion. More than likely you're going to be able to pick one up at the store on lunch day.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] TEKHD:
Because of all of this messages in this forum... This is why I ALWAYS go in person on release day. Also because if there is something I don't like on the phone, I can exchange it right there instantly without issues, otherwise I will have to return it by mail and keep waiting...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] adorkablejuliep:
I thought you could bring it back to the store, no? Are online orders independent of retail locations?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Kawaisa:
you'd have to send it back
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] TEKHD:
Yeap... Got it online... You have to return by mail... Same applies for 611 orders...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mr pnut:
I just called tmobile and they told me my estimate delivery date is Oct 23 that's bull crap then he told me sometimes samsung will give the ok to tmobile to ship out a couple of days before launch date, but if not I'll get it on the 23. So I tried cancelling my order and supposedly I can't cancel. Wtf!!!!! Tmobile
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] aooga:
That's about right if you chose ground shipping. Ships on the 17th, takes 5 days to get from KY to CA. You can cancel it, but it takes a lot of effort and time. I wouldn't bother. Just refuse delivery if you don't want it, and you don't pay a restocking fee.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mr pnut:
Yeah but I could of just got it on the 17th now gotta wait.....I hate waiting lol oh well
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Misterjunky:
re: canceling order

Why would it take a lot of effort and time to cancel it if you have paid the full the

price for the phone using your dept or credit card and your payment has not been

charged to your credit or dept card and it won't be until the phone is actually

shipped?

If I wanted to cancel the order it would be no problem, I would simply need to

call my bank and tell them to put a stop on the tmobile $813 payment in case

there is a problem, tmobile will NOT ship the phone until they actually bill your

credit/debit card and receive payment for the phone.

If you paid used a check to pay for the phone simply put a stop on the check

sometime before the 17th of October, Tmoble will not ship the phone unless

they have actually got paid for it and your credit / debt or checking accounts

were debited for your payment.

The only way you could or might have a slight problem canceling your order

is if you used cash to buy the phone outright. (LOL)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] JDogg5281:
It depends on who you talk to about it im sure. I called and they wouldn't give me a ship date or an estimated delivery date. All they would say was that it will come mid October (whatever that means)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] adorkablejuliep:
After cancelling yesterday, I got a text message this morning saying "Thank you for upgrading your device!". I called them again and they said there should be no issues cancelling because my phone is on backorder now and would not ship by the 17th (but to be fair I did not preorder on the 24th, I just did it this past weekend). It will take about 3 days before your account reflects the cancellation though so don't be alarmed if it still shows processing for a few days! Call took about 5 minutes.

Since not all stores are getting them on launch, I recommend calling your local TMo the day before to see if they're getting a shipment in and seeing if they will hold one for you or just showing up early before they open. If not, your local Costco may get them in a day or two after launch and they will hold the phone for you for pending shipments. I grabbed an iPhone 6 there and paid no tax, got an accessory bundle, and a $25 Costco gift card that Saturday of launch. May do that again if I can't grab on at the 3 retail stores in my area!

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Try going through the automated system to check up on an order status - they also give delivery dates as well!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] aooga:
Not if you paid full price. Only if you signed an EIP.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mr pnut:
K cool I was able to cancel, I'll just wait until the 17th my local tmobile are going to have it.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] aooga:
Full price or eip?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mr pnut:
Eip.........
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] aooga:
Hmm..I may want to do that then. Thanks.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mr pnut:
Yup just get it on launch day.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] aooga:
One more question...did you use jump? Because if I cancel, I need to wait till it resets.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mr pnut:
No didn't use my jump I just upgrade.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] m3lover1:
Preorder in store or just walkin? I think you need to preorder in order to qualify for the Samsung promo
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] aooga:
Yeah that's the only thing that was keeping me on the fence. I already shipped the phone to tmobile, so either get the phone early (maybe) and lose $100, or try my luck with my current online order and hope it gets to me by the 17th and get $100. Thinking about it, I'll pocket the $100 and risk a week. I have a perfectly working phone right now.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] rekman:
From everything I've read about getting the phone from Tmobile for use on ATT I've gathered the following...

1. Tmobile phone can be unlocked for ATT use by outside sources for a small fee. (I'm fine with that)

2. Tmobile bootloader will most likely be unlocked, making root inevitable.

3. Some people are able to buy tmobile phones at full price without getting a plan that needs to be cancelled. Some have to cancel the plan immediately and may be billed accordingly.

4. Tmobile's Terms of Service states that they could require the phone back if you cancel the plan despite buying the phone for full price. I haven't heard of this happening, but it's a potential issue.

I really want the Tmobile phone. If they make me get a plan with the phone, I don't have a problem canceling it once the phone is in my hands. But it would be nice to have definitive proof that they won't require the phone back or charge an obscene amount. Seems like there cases of different results. Sometimes depends on the store/person you talk to, etc.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] daraj:
I have never heard of asking for the phone back.. They typically will bill you for the rest of the phone amount and that's it. Now if you don't pay the rest of the amount they will blacklist your imei.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] m3lover1:
I was on the phone with T-Mobile about the release date and shipping date. Several times on online chat with their CS they said the phones ship out on the 17th, so because of that I decided to pay for overnight shipping so I can hope to get it on Saturday. I placed the order, and found out after placing the order that even though I had chosen overnight shipping, it only selected and charged me for Ground shipping. Annoyed, I called T-Mobile, and the CS there told me I had to cancel the order, wait 24 hours, and preorder again. So I did, the next day I preordered again, double checked to make sure the overnight was selected, and placed the order. Guess what, it happened again. Called T-Mobile again, and this CS said that the system wouldn't let me choose the overnight because the phone will arrive on the 17th regardless. It will ship out several days before the 17th and arrive at my house on the 17th. If it doesn't I'm going to call and complain again.

So take that for what it's worth. She said if it doesn't arrive on the 17th to call back to complain and my account has been noted of her assurance that the phone will arrive on the 17th.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] aooga:
Sometimes they do it this way, but sometimes they don't. I guess we have to take our chances if we want the $200.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] JoeyWhite:
I just pre ordered mine this evening. Quickly after doing so I called 611 and spoke with a rep for about 5 to 10 minutes and she had informed me that the devices would not ship until the 17th. After pressing her and explaining that pre ordering would make no sense if I wouldn't get the device until a few days after launch date, she proceeded to tell me this. "Well unofficially we will sometimes ship out the devices a few days early that way our pre order customers can get their devices on or before launch date." Whether or not there is any legitimacy to her statement is beyond me but if I end up having to wait, oh well.

I have ground shipping for my order.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Spartanjet:
I was wondering what message you guys are receiving when dialing #875#. Two of my friends who ordered after I did are getting a shipping date of 10/17 while mine still says my order is back ordered and will receive a message when its back in stock. I ordered very early on 9/24 (like 6am est) I hope it didn't mess up my order. I noticed several people online were also getting 10/17 as a ship date using #875# so I was curious what some of you were getting.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] aooga:
Obviously wrong.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Misterjunky:
re: the 17th.

I think that the gal you had spoken with just wanted to get rid of you already! LOL
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] twoeleven99:
Those of you new to the preorder situation...again...ive preordered about 4 phones with tmo....ive ALWAYS gotten the deviced BEFORE the release date.

Disclaimer**** i always used the overnight shipping option

SkyDragon G3
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] DrexelDragon:
Yeah I have a feeling they will all start shipping out around the 14th-15th and those who did overnight will get it a few days early.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] JDogg5281:
That and those that live close enough to where it ships should get it early too. I chose ground because normally it ships from KY and me living in Cincinnati overnight is kind of pointless.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] glensta:
Counting it down, 15 days and counting, tick, tock, tick, tock
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] m3lover1:
Fack mine says 10/23/14 when dialing that code. And I was promised it'll get here on the 17th pretty much
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] chong67:
I did the code and mine say 10/2/2014.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] aooga:
T-mobile is useless at these things. Mine says the same thing.

Has anyones card been charged or at least have a pending charge on it? It's weird that mine has nothing at all.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] m3lover1:
Nope no charge.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] aooga:
Thanks.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] chong67:
My cc has not be charged yet. I notice there are two prices on mine and its because they double charge me tax twice. I hope they fix it, otherwise I have to call in.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] aznmode:
It said Oct 2nd for me. Haha. Lies!!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] gotojanoo:
Anyone who trade in old phone for Samsung 200 promotion can explain how u got trade in receipt. They says I will have tradein pouch and receipt with my note 4 package. Man I need to submit that trade in receipt.:)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] JoeyWhite:
Went in to Best Buy tonight and had the same impression expressed by everyone else who has done so. This device is AMAZING. Talked with the Samsung rep and he told me that the AT&T models were shipping on the 14th, or so he had heard. Hopefully the same will apply for us.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] jktenor:
#875# won't even respond to me. It just says failed. I got a text saying 10/3 the day I ordered it, which was 10/24. I called t-mobile today and was told it would ship on 10/17. I think it is bad business to lie to your customers.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] rcobourn:
I also went into BB today to have a look. Slight gap on right side on 1 of 3. No big deal, wouldn't have noticed if I wasn't looking. Sound was good, screen amazing. No reps around. I was so ignored I probably would have had to cut the security cord to get some attention.

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#875# doesn't work if you are connected through wifi calling (failed). It also doesn't seem to work for business accounts (service not available).
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] spyro2:
...willi it blend...

... That is the question...