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[X 2014 General] cb474:
Accoding to GSMArena the S5 does have band 12: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s5-6033.php It lists 700 Mhz, which is the same thing as band 12, on the AT&T, T-Mobile, and Vodafone models.

Yes, I'm not surprised you're getting better reception with the Moto X than the Nexus 4 (which has even fewer bands). That's not really about bands though. Of course, you can't get reception on a band that a phone simply does not have. But for the bands the Moto X does have, it should get very good reception. That's about the metal exterior antenna, as you note, and a lot of sophisticated engineering Motorola put into the antenna design. AnandTech has a great very detailed write up about this: http://anandtech.com/show/8491/the-new-moto-x-intial-impressions-and-hands-on/2

That's one of the things that makes me possibly want to get the Moto X (in addition to the four microphone noise cancellation). I like that Motorola really focused on some of the basic elements of just making phone calls, that are so often ignored these days. It sounds like they did a great job for reception (band 12 notwithstanding).

Yes, it's actually not about soft metal at all. There's nothing wrong with the metal. People just got focused on that because they didn't know better. As I said, it appears to be about the internal structure of the phone. Here's the post from the materials scientist I mentioned: https://np.reddit.com/r/gadgets/com...te_3_bend_test_iphone_6_plus_followup/ckrzrsi
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
The T-Mobile site does not mention band 12 for the S5 :confused: http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-s-5.html

The way Motorola engineered the antenna, maybe band 12 is not needed as much for this phone vs. other phones. Everyone would love band 12, including me, but it isn't a deal breaker
[X 2014 General] ref1ux:
Does anyone know if Euro orders will get a Euro Pure Edition? The US version isn't compatible with all the bands my network uses for LTE, but I don't know if they'll ship a different version.
[X 2014 General] nimper:
700mhz is not exclusively band 12. The new Moto X has 700mhz support on a different band -- 17 I think? -- that covers the b and c block of the 700mhz spectrum. Band 12 includes the a block which is what T-Mobile will be deploying I believe.

Also, some markets won't even support band 12 until TV stations which operate in the adjacent frequencies switch their channels.
[X 2014 General] Note10.1Dude:
UK model was just released with the following bands:

4G LTE (02, 04, 05, 12, 17, 25, 26, 41)
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
lucky. idk why the UK model has the most LTE bands. plus, it has the tmo compatible ones: 4 and 12. somewhat upsetting. i wonder if it's only a radio problem and maybe we can activate the other bands by flashing the radio.img. hmm...
[X 2014 General] cb474:
Hmm, I think I trust the carriers the least to get this right. I've seen all kinds of mistakes on their websites. But GSMArena could be wrong too. Since I'm not interested in getting an S5, I guess I'm not motivated to research this further.

I see. Well, I'm not surprised it's even more complicated and confusing.

Found this useful guide: http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_band.php

Looks like bands 12, 13, 14, 17, 28, 29, and 44 can all operate within the 700 MHz spectrum. I guess the complexity of this is an argument for just accepting things as they are, as O.O has been advocating, and riding the wave of planned obsolesence with a smile (and credit card at the ready).
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
I cannot wait until the day where phones can just have every LTE band on the planet in a phone. Heck, we'll probably get 5G by then, so have every 5G band :p

sent from my Moto X (2014)
[X 2014 General] floepie:
No, that can't be right. None of those bands are even used in the UK/EU. Moto's site lists its specs wrong. The most common bands in the EU are 3, 7, and 20.
[X 2014 General] lafester:
That is the 1092 us cellular model. They have incorrectly been listing this as the UK version for awhile now.

Im waiting for a us cellular owner to stop in so we can test on sprint.
[X 2014 General] cb474:
How do you know that the XT1092 is the US Cellular version? There has been a lot of confusion and mystery about what this model is. The reviewer of this phone at AnandTech told me in an email that even Motorola's reviewer's guide, sent out with the phone, specified no information about carriers for that model (but does for every other model).
[X 2014 General] Judge584:
You're right. EU model is xt1093 or xt1094 supporting LTE bands 1,3,7,8,20.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X_(2nd_generation)
[X 2014 General] Slorks:
When you talk to moto people on live chat they don't confirm that. Motorola really dropped the ball on the specs.
[X 2014 General] Judge584:
Whatever brand is, Live Chat is probably the worst place to have such informations... ;)

Moto X 2014 is available in France and they advertise it is 4G compatible. So because of French Law, if they say 4G compatible this means it is able to connect to French 4G network at 800,1800 and 2600MHz.

Since I will receive mine on thursday I can confirm on that date.
[X 2014 General] Duffmantp:
There is no T-Mobile 700mhz network yet in the northeast yet, its still at least 6 months away. And that is in limited markets. So band 12, won't make much of a difference.

I was looking at it the pure edition as well. I use at so it don't matter.
[X 2014 General] abhorsen:
I just picked up a new Moto X on USC and the device box (and android file transfer confirms this) states the US Cellular model is the XT1093.
[X 2014 General] cb474:
That's interesting. Supposedly that's the EU version. Perhaps that's best of US Cellular. It looks like XT1093 is the only one that covers 800 MHz, which US Cellular uses. Are you getting LTE? According to the specs at AnandTech and GSMArena, the XT1093 does not cover the right bands or frequencies for LTE on US Cellular. But US Cellular lists it as an LTE ready phone on its site. I guess just more evidence that the published information about the bands on this phone are not always accurate.
[X 2014 General] abhorsen:
Yes, LTE works great. I've also noticed there is no branding on the back of the phone, unlike the first gen Moto X on USC.
[X 2014 General] Note10.1Dude:
That is not the Euro model. Moto made a mistake.
[X 2014 General] cb474:
What's you're basis for that claim? AnandTech shows it as the EU model in their review: http://anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review. In a direct email with the author of that review, he said that information came directly form Motorola. Isn't it possible that the EU model and the US Cellular model are the same? US Cellular seems to use some atypical frequencies for the U.S.
[X 2014 General] Judge584:
I live on Paris, and I bought a moto X from Moto Maker France website. My moto x is a XT1092 and it support LTE 800,1800 and 2600Mhz ( don't know if it support more )
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
so it looks like some parts of Europe will have the XT1092 (you're lucky). The LTE bands are: 02, 04, 05, 12, 17, 25, 26, 41 according to http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-x-specs-2014
[X 2014 General] Judge584:
No they are wrong.

It does support 3 (1800Mhz), 7 (2600Mhz) and 20 (800Mhz). Don't know if it support more but for 3,7,20 it's a fact.
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
My bad, I totally missed the LTE bands you stated. How is it fact?

So now, I am getting confused on what supports what at this point :confused:
[X 2014 General] Judge584:
My carrier only support band 7 and 20 and LTE is working great on my Moto. Also tested with a friend simcard from the only one network that use band 3 and it works to. So yes 3,7,20 support for 1092 is a fact.
[X 2014 General] nimper:
Tmobile uses Band 4 for LTE in my area and I don't think Band 12 will come online here soon because it's near a DT Channel 51 exclusion area. So I'm fine with the xt1095 not having Band 12 since it will not be relevant for a while.
[X 2014 General] Duffmantp:
What's kinda ironic, is that its supposedly Motorola channel 56 that is the hold up for T-Mobile 700mhz in NYC. From what I heard.
[X 2014 General] jprep:
How would i find out what bands are used in my area? I currently have vzw and was originally looking to buy the PURE edition for the unlocked bootloader, but based on the previous posts it seems a lot of bands are missing for the network. I know an alleged update was supposed to come out to help support more bands but I haven't read any updates regarding that. So am I stuck to the Vzw version and a locked bootloader? Or can i purchase the PURE and get the most out of my LTE? Thanks
[X 2014 General] Judge584:
Have a look here: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
[X 2014 General] jprep:
So according to the OP, PURE edition doesn't cover Band 4 and 13. The software update seems to promise bands 3, 5, and 7. If i pickup the PURE and only have one LTE band supported, does that mean i'll only get LTE some of the time? Sorry if this is an obvious question, I've never looked into how the networks really function :confused:
[X 2014 General] Judge584:
Yes. You will not be able to connect to all cells in LTE mode, only the ones that emit on a band supported by your phone.
[X 2014 General] Note10.1Dude:
The Pure does cover band 4.
[X 2014 General] nimper:
Pure edition covers Band 4, btw.
[X 2014 General] Note10.1Dude:
Motorola has released a bunch of bad information, including to the reviewers. It appears they either revised bands or revised what various model numbers are. The motorola.co.uk site originally had wrong LTE bands for the phones they were shipping. They were later corrected and list on that site as:

GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)

CDMA (850/1900 MHz)

4G LTE (03, 07, 20, 42, 43)

Continental Europe may be getting something else.
[X 2014 General] theceej:
The Europe (or UK at least) version is the XT1092, supporting LTE bands 1, 3, 7 and 20 according to the side of my box
[X 2014 General] cb474:
Did you check that yourself using one of the apps that shows what band your phone is actually using to connect to the network? Have you seen your phone connect over each of those bands separately to your network? Or are you basing that just on the fact that you're getting LTE reception? You could be getting reception on one band, but not have the others. Given all the errors in reporting specs on these phones so far, I would not make any assumptions.

Again, given all the errors in reporting specs on these phones, including by Motorola themselves, why should we assume that these are the correct specs? Yes there are inconsistencies between what Motorola has reported. But how do we know what is correct? They could all be wrong for that matter.
[X 2014 General] Judge584:
Did you see that post?
[X 2014 General] Note10.1Dude:
I agree, there is a good chance the currently reported bands are still incorrect. I think they are closer to what is actually supported than the first reporting was.
[X 2014 General] cb474:
Yeah, it's too bad it's so hard to know, because for some people it seems like the Euro models might be better than the one recommended for their carrier.
[X 2014 General] Judge584:
Again : ( thx theceej )
[X 2014 General] cb474:
Given all the other mistakes, why are we assuming this is correct? They can't make a mistake or print incomplete information on the label on the box?
[X 2014 General] Judge584:
I already told I have done tests on band 3,7 and 20 with success on a XT1092 but it seems no one wants to hear it or trust it... So i cannot help more.

But perhaps it would be a good thing to contact Moto by Twitter, Facebook to ask them to provide LTE bands détails for ALL models. Twitter is usually a good thing to force a company to answer.
[X 2014 General] Note10.1Dude:
On the Motorola board there are reports of phones being shipped to Germany with a different set of bands. I agree 1,3, 7, and 20 are the right bands for 90% of all LTE use in Europe.
[X 2014 General] cb474:
That's great, but it's not all of the bands people have been asking about in this thread. We need more tests like that from people with the phone.
[X 2014 General] Judge584:
On Motorola forum you can find this posted by an admin on 10/15/14:

"There is something goofy about the banding posted on our Web site in Europe. We're looking into it."

Source link : https://forums.motorola.com/posts/d766a5d90a?page=14

And just posted this : https://twitter.com/Judge584/status/522780570620030976?s=03

If all of you are willing to do the same you will have an answer.

In today's world when you want something to be corrected you have to make noise, if possible publicly !
[X 2014 General] Shadowdancer123:
My box says band 1,3,7,20

I can verify that band 7 and 20 are valid for the XT1092. As Tele2 Sweden only has these two bands.

I know I'm outside of band 7 as My HTC One M7 didn't have LTE coverage outside my house, as it doesn't support band 20 only 7.

This actually means that Tele2 and Telenor are the only operators where this phone will work outside cities.

[IMG="Box photo"]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxZIa2s3ZsnWWElCb3U1WGxsSlk/view?usp=sharing[/IMG]
[X 2014 General] Duffmantp:
I noticed the band listings for the new Google Nexus 6, the reason i bring this up is because the Nexus 6 has LTE-Advanced CA.

I was considering both phones, but Motorola X has specifically mentioned CA.

This is copied from the Google Play Store for Nexus 6:

Network

2G/3G/4G LTE

GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10

WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/8

LTE: Bands: 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/25/26/29/41

CA DL: Bands: B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-29, B4-B5, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2719022 more information from the ATT S5 xda boards.

Will this change your position? It might have just for me. Unless Moto X specifies LTE-A CA. And the only way is to check through the mentioned USSD codes. I dont know Tmobile USSD codes to verify information. Can anyone verify is CA is supported on Moto X.
[X 2014 General] Judge584:
Hi,

Here are specs for XT1092 : LTE bands (01, 03, 07, 08, 20), so this means frequency 2100,1800,2600,900,800.

Official and confirmed : Motorola UK and FR websites have been updated by Motorola. ( previously LTE listings were missing )
[X 2014 General] fvc2000:
Lollipop update for XT 1095 fixes bands 3, 5 and 7.

I'm getting band 7 now with my 1095

=)
[X 2014 General] karn101:
That's great to hear! I'm on ATT so I'll be watching to see if I jump onto 5. I wonder if that will help in places I've had so-so service...
[X 2014 General] rcht148:
Moto has updated their specs page to indicate that Pure edition supports LTE bands 2/3/4/5/17.

So compared to the AT&T edition (at least from the specs page perspective) the pure edition is missing bands 7/29.

So have they enabled only 7 or both 7/29 and just not mentioning it on the specs page?
[X 2014 General] fvc2000:
7 is enabled... I'm using it right now...
[X 2014 General] nole361:
Does anyone have the Moto x pure edition working on Sprint's network?
[X 2014 General] glauberlima:
XT1097 = Pure Edition (for Brazilian marketing)

Just for clarification:

The variant XT1097 manufactured and distributed in Brazil by Motorola Mobility LLC is the PURE Edition. See attached the relevant parts of my transcript with Motorola Support Chat.

My System version:

23.11.14.victara_retbr.retbr.en.BR retbr

If you guys have something different from this official feedback, please let us know.
[X 2014 General] erikiksaz:
Just curious, is there an app that you're using that verifies this?
[X 2014 General] plcline:
Try LTE Discovery

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jkentj:
I've tried rebooting my phone and clearing the dalvik cache and still no luck. I'm running 33R and I place my phone's GPS in High Accuracy mode but when I pull up Google Maps directions my phone never locks onto my location.

Anyone else having this same issue and/or solved this issue?
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aboicu:
Try outside of building. For diagnostic puposes, use GPS Status & Toolbox or GPS Test from Google Play. If you can "see" the satellites, your hardware is fine.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jkentj:
I just got a response from Oneplus tech support that said "Try a factory reset, if that doesn't work try a hard reset.".

They told me the same solution for the last issue I had. I'm beginning to think that tech support only sends out that "solution".
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jkentj:
Oh thank you, I'll try that.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aboicu:
The GPS module is intended to work ONLY in open space, it must "see" the sky. Sometimes, if you are away from big buildings or mountains, it should work inside near the windows. But the rule is the device should "see" the sky.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oscarandjo:
I'm having GPS issues even when it 'sees the sky'
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aboicu:
I have read somewhere, here or in official forum from oneplus site, that someone has similar problems due to an app (a keyboard or something like this) which has apparently nothing to do with GPS. Try to install/reinstall your apps and meanwhile test your GPS with GPS Test or GPS Status & Toolbox. Anyway, I'll try to search the thread and if I'll find it, I'll tell it here.

---------- Post added at 12:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:16 PM ----------

I've forgot to tell.. If you use GPS Status & Toolbox, in Settings>GPS & Sensors, activate Auto-download AGPS data on the smallest interval (1 hour). Now it should work quicker.

---------- Post added at 12:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:25 PM ----------

Find it... Read here all thread: http://xdaforums.com/oneplus-one/help/gps-problems-oneplus-one-t2816004/page3

Also read post number 30 about an app called "dragon dictation". Could be something similar. That's why is better to install/uninstall apps.
[HTC Desire C] Quasar:
I noticed that cute_prince hadn't pushed the patched tree to GitHub, so all other CM10 builds using his tree were without WiFi working. So I implemented the patches and am uploading a zip file of the tree.

DOWNLOAD

http://d-h.st/9ze
[HTC Desire C] maniknarang:
Doesn't work!

I guess I got it:laugh:

Wait till I make the changes
[HTC Desire C] Quasar:
If your changes fix it, you can upload the tree and link it here... or you could push to github..
[HTC Desire C] maniknarang:
:( Error!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] trinic101:
just installed opera mobile 8.6 expecting to get alot better performance and functionality than from PIE plus and the problem is that im not getting it

almost all the sites are hanging on looking up host... for a substantially long period of time and thats if it finds it, and when it does then sometimes it zooms thru setting up secure connection and loads the site really fast if its not to image intensive.

this delay is longer than a few seconds, im not that impatient, its more so like a minute or 2 at times, google.com shouldnt take that long to load

another issue is that after closing it, and clicking the IE softkey i have pointed to opera mobile (my newly default browser) or selecting it from my start menu, it wont load up, mainly because the opera.exe process isnt terminated correctly, so i open up my task manager and have to end task it everytime.

help please :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] wwwes:
try changing your dns servers to 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 or there are many other open dns servers. I as having similar issues with cingular dns lookups taking forever. this really helped me. I think opera has it's own page to set up dns servers, but I don't use it so i'm not sure.

wes
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] trinic101:
my dns settings are as follows...

http://www.opendns.com/start/windows_mobile5.php

severly increased my dslreport.com/mspeed tests..from around 300 to 850+ kbps

need help =/
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] christian15213:
I have found that Opera mobile SUCKS compared to IE... simply sucks... and when I found out that I can do a little function to view myspace... the choose was over.. PIE rocks...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] trinic101:
the opera.exe process not being terminated correctly issue, somewhat solved itself within a few soft resets.

the looking up host issue taking forever isnt completely gone but i have noticed that i.e. www.google.com loads alot faster than google.com (if it loads)

ill deal with it, do look the browser tho, tabs are alot nicer than in PIE plus which limits ur viewing size of the site

another dead thread i guess, less some1 has any tips =)
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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] babbulu99:
Hi,

I try to format my HTC DESIRE S but ends with error.

"The recovery hasn't been configure!"

Use 4EXT Recovery Control or the free app 4EXT Recovery Updater, which is available on www.4ext.net to setup the recovery and to unlock configurable features. Hint: check out recovery settings

I have downloaded in to sd card but its an application and I cannot install the app because im still in recovery mode and cannot access the phone like dialing etc.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmcclue:
For the second time, Just press ok on the msg and carry on as normal. Then install the app later once u have rom installed
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] babbulu99:
How to carry on...what I should do
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmcclue:
What exactly r u trying to do? Flash a rom?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] babbulu99:
I wanted to format the phone and after format using "wipe|format" tools, I unable to boot my phone and the message prompted and saying "The recovery hasn't been configure!"
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gatosbil:
You can download a zip file with {4EXT Recovery}.img and flash it manually from your bootloader by using the command fastboot flash recovery recovery.img.

4EXT Recovery Touch (Saga)

If you want more informations about 4EXT Recovery for HTC Desire S you can check this out.

If you have an older 4EXT Recovery installed try to delete the "4ext" folder from your sdcard.The recovery will recreate the settings folder.It may helps you with the error.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] babbulu99:
I have try to use "Fastboot" but couldn't connect even using htc sync and adb. Its totally cannot connect the phone to my computer. I have install the "recovery.img" file in sdcard and run it, and getting :

" this zip isn't meant to be flashed in recovery! It might be a bootloader flashable zip or nota flashable zip at all. Installation aborted."
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Saf98:
You are giving him the wrong recovery for his phone its not a desire s?

---------- Post added at 06:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:59 PM ----------

You can't flash an .IMG in recovery, what does it show on your screen in fastboot when you plugged phone in pc? Have u installed fastboot drivers correctly.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmcclue:
The OP clearly says in his first post he has a desire s.

@OP

Click this link and setup fastboot on ur pc then u can use fastboot commands to flash the recovery.img

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] babbulu99:
Sorry its typo error. it should be desire bravo a8180. when it connect to my phone, i really does 't connect and didn't show anything. Fastboot driver, where to installed, pc or in my htc phone?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Saf98:
On pc Yh so just install it and I think ur will make a folder in ur c: drive but after that when you switch your phone off and get into bootloader and u will see fastboot and use vol key to go to it and connect ur cable to pc and phone and it should show fastboot USB.