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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
Do all glass screen protectors have a grid dot matrix over the screen?

So far I have tried these two from Cailifu and Coolbo, and they both have a visible dot grid all over the screen that takes away from the image.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PXP38BA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

http://www.amazon.com/Coolbo-Beautiful-Tempered-Protector-Samsung/dp/B00RO50OI2/

The only real difference between them is that the Cailifu has a clear area above the two soft-buttons on the bottom, where the Coolbo has it made to look like the recent apps and back key.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] clanderson:
Corning? Do you have a link?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] borijess:
That looks terrible

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 4! ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kawaisa:
I wouldn't put any stock into the corning protector being real
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] NogaroS4:
Thanks for the pics. Ordering one right after this reply with the discount coupon. Will use it until something better comes along.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] vader4633:
I had BB put one on for my Note 4 friday morning. Mine still looks like this and I am going to take it back for a refund as well.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] MMakoto:
I dont get it, how come yours fit correctly and not others?! I have the same one from ebay, but the sides does not stick at all. I'm getting my s view case tomorrow, maybe i'll just skip this phone and go naked.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] segura.org:
From what I understand after Oct 13 they changed it I thought
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Amd4life:
I might grab one of these for the time being, how thick is the glass?

I have a plastic spigen on the face right now as temporary.

I have used MIMEUSA screens on my past devices in the past, but I don't want to pay $27 is they don't fit any better than this $6.99 unit?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] paesan:
I did not have BB put the glass shield on because for $8 that is the biggest rip off. The glass shield is just about fool proof to put on. Anyhow, if yours is that way too then I guess the glass screen protector needs some kind of revision, if that is even possible for the slightly curved screen on the note 4. I am calling Zagg this morning to tell them how I feel about their product. No way this screen protector in this form is acceptable for this phone.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] bradharvey:
Supershieldz vs iloome

So looking back through this thread, the Supershieldz is probably the best way to go right now.

Unfortunately for us Aussies, postage costs are a killer. Total cost for the Supershieldz is ~AUD$31.

The iLoome glass is ~AUD$43... so not much more.

What are people's thoughts - should I just go for the iloome given its only a little more?

$43 is starting to get pretty ridiculous, but if its going to be the best one, I don't mind paying it.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Dat Noob:
I'm leaning towards the iloome since I like that their screen protectors also cover the area under the home button. Other than that they seem to have the same specs as all the others.

But I haven't seen any review yet. I agree that the Supershieldz look good though.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mty msi:
No, I don't know anymore about it than what the Android Central poster posted. One of the AC posters communicated w/ iloome to get the info on their upcoming protector.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] paesan:
I just took back the Zagg glass to Best Buy, they wanted to know if I wanted another one and I said it wasn't defective but the design was wrong. I am going to give the Iloome glass shield a try and just ordered one. See how it goes, fingers crossed. I report back with results when I get it.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] MMakoto:
mine was shipped on Oct 13th, so i think they might've sent me one from their earlier batch, by mistake or not, i was really disappointed.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] JawjaBill:
Not willing to invest too much into a tempered right now until the dust settles. In the past, I have used Spigen, iLoome and Mime with great success. The latter 2 have awesome customer service and will make it right fast. But, none of them seem to have a final solution available at the moment. The Tech Armor 30% discount is dead so I ordered the Super Shieldz off eBay for $7.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] randpost:
I currently have a skinomi protector on. It covers the whole screen well. Just a little tacky to the touch as it is a wet apply solution. Best option I could find till a good glass protector is available.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] skinnyaznkid:
Just installed the techarmor ballistic. Doesn't fit right on the edges, even though it doesn't cover the complete screen. It lifts on the edge and I can see dust getting there in the future. I don't think there's much of an oleophobic coating. Fingerprints seem worse. The thickness of the SP does helps level it with the home button for smoother fingerprint readings. With the screen on you don't notice any of the flaws.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Piercing Heavens:
Able to post any photos? Looking to order this today before my note comes in this thursday hopefully.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] weebeast:
Thanks! Your right about it, It looks so strange on the sides. I will send it back:(
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] NICEGYPT:
don't send it back it's going to do the job until something new comes out that fits right.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] sefrcoko:
No, not all glass protectors have that dot matrix grid (emg. Zagg glass, Otterbox, Inskin, etc). I think the grid pattern is mostly found on some of the "edge-to-edge" glass protectors.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
That's good to hear. I got this one on order to try next. I would have kept the Cailifu if it wasn't for those annoying dots.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R421E8E
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
I would say you are unlucky with the amount of halo you are getting from the Nuglas - I found the cut to be a little small, but the oleophobic coating is only second to Zagg in my opinion.

The iCarez is well documented. No halo, but it's quite plasticy in texture, and is a dust magnet.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
Which ones have you tried and liked the best?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
I have tried LOTS. Probably over 20.

Best oleophobic coating is Zagg Glass, but their cut is far too big (they have two revisions, and the second revision is only marginally better), so there is lots of halo.

The Nuglas has a good coating, and minimal halo. Possibly due to my fitting of it, but because it is so small (it only *just* covers the visible portion of the screen), I had an effect along the right hand edge where the screen was refracted/magnified (it's a difficult effect to describe).

I'm using (and have done for a number of months) a Mocolo 0.1mm. The fit is good, and oleophobic coating pretty good. Halo is minimal apart from the horn they put next to the front facing camera which doesn't adhere well for me, but it's not something I notice and think "I will have to try and find something better because this looks awful" which was the case with all the previous protectors.

I have a spare Nuglas, and a spare Mocolo. Next time I replace my current one it will be with the Nuglas to see if I can get a better fitting, otherwise I'll continue with the Mocolo.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
Do you have any pictures or a link to the Mocolo you are using?

I looked here, but none say they are the 0.10mm version.

http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20150922112202&origin=y&SearchText=mocolo+note+4
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
I got mine from AliExpress, but had to specifically ask for the 0.1mm version as they aren't listed for some reason. I only found out about them because they sent me a catalogue listing.

I'll try and take a picture of one fitted soon.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
OK thanks. Was there a model # or SKU # of it on the invoice?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
No. It was a bit more ad-hoc than that. ;)

I contacted Jessie at http://www.aliexpress.com/store/102534 and ended up buying a mixture of items to make up the cost of a couple of the 0.1mm protectors.

My advice is to contact them, and get their instruction on how to order one. Why they don't just list them, I don't know. Maybe if there is enough demand they will.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] cicihost:
Any glass protector that covers entire screen without halo avaliable?

Tried many options, but not happy with them.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
If you are talking about a clear glass protector, then the answer is no.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] cicihost:
Thanks, how about non glass protector options? Using spigen now, but its also doesnt cover whole screen.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
I tried these two:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PXP38BA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RO50OI2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ro_explorer:
And what is the happiness level with them ?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Melissakis:
I followed the suggestions of fellow forum members and bought this one from amazon.de

First of all, it covers the entire screen, it does not leave the slightest margin around the screen. Feels very smooth and is very clear, much clearer than a plastic screen protector. The best part is that it covers the Samsung logo on the front, I really love my nameless device! :good: All the cutouts for the sensors, the camera, the speaker and the button are perfectly placed except the soft buttons. They are placed a little lower than they should, but it's not a big deal. The "matrix" pattern can be seen under direct sunlight with the screen off indeed, but that's not of a big deal too.

To conclude, it may be a little on the expensive side, but it leaves no margin and covers the Samsung logo, yeah!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
That brand doesn't appear to be available here on the Amazon US site, but is similar to the ones I tried out last week, the Cailifu and Coolbo. It looks pretty much identical to the Coolbo, but the Coolbo has less of of matrix than yours, but the Cailifu has more of a matrix that matches yours.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RO50OI2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00

Here are the differences:

The Cailifu has more dots on the screen than the Coolbo (has less dots).

The Cailifu is more reflective.

The Cailifu has a clear area above the two soft keys, but the Coolbo has a recent apps and back key design.

The Cailifu has a clear area that shows the Samsung logo on the top, the Coolbo covers it up.

Between the two, I liked the Coolbo more, but wish I couldn't see the grid matrix.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Melissakis:
The main difference between those and mine is that mine does not have holes in the place of the software buttons, other than that they seem about the same. The dot matrix is not that annoying to me, it's not easily noticeable under most of the situations.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
About the softkeys, the Cailifu has a clear glass area above the softkeys (looks like a square window), but the Coolbo has the same look of yours with an actual recent apps and back softkeys design.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
I have now tried 4 screen protectors, the Cailifu and Coolbo full screen coverage, the iCarez last week, and now the iLoome Light.

http://www.amazon.com/iloome-ScreenMate-thickness-Protector-Oleophobic/dp/B00THHCSNE/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8

I've had the iLoome on for a few hours now and it is made better quality than the iCarez. The main difference is the iLoome there was no bubbles during the install (where the iCarez did bubble) and it it truly 9H harness and passes my knife scratch test (as did the Cailifu and Coolbo, but not the iCarez).

The thing I'm not liking though is the iLoome is cut smaller than the iCarez, and and the edges are more visible...you can tell there is a screen protector on. That is really my main gripe with the iLoome. It could of been slightly more coverage all the way around. There is even a gap between where the bottom of the glass ends and the top of the center home button.

But other than it's cut, the iLoome is nice. As it feels like slick glass (better than the iCarez) and doesn't have the grid dot matrix that is on the Cailifu and Coolbo.

So I'll use the iLoome Screenmate Light for a while and see how I like it...if I can get past how the edges are so noticeable.

Update:

So the iLoome only lasted a few hours. I saw a small bubble near the left edge and went to use the edge of my nail to get it out, but the edge of the glass is sharp and not rounded, and ended up cracking. So just by pressing my nail on the edge of the glass, it cracked and broke.

So this is going back.

Not sure what to try next. Maybe the Mocolo that was suggested a few days ago.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] leondestiny:
OCD kicking in hard ! XD haha this **** happens to me too with sp's especially with the Note.. the edges... i applied my frist one when i got the device and i didnt know about the edge thing, when i saw the glass not covering the edges and it looked so short my OCD kicked in alot, the glass was good but i couldnt bare the short coverage sight no more so i took that thing off ..

i will only apply a glass sp when it covers the whole screen and has no bubbles obviously, when i see a single speck/bubble under the SP i go nuts .

atm. the only reason i would want a full coverage GlassSP would be to hide the few scratches that are on the screen and to get a smoother glass touch with oleophobic coating would be very appreciated.. so is there anyone that suggests such a glass sp with their good experience using it ? thanks in advance.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
The edges of the iLoome Light were my issue with it too. Rather than being 2.5D rounded, they were almost reverse chamfered. By that I mean that the surface seemed to overhang the back that adhered to the phone. A bit like this :

________

_______/

This meant that the edges were not only visible, but allowed dust to get trapped under. It was a shame, as the oleophobic coating was good.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
I tried these two full screen ones a couple weeks ago. The Cailifu and Coolbo.

The only thing I didn't like about them was that they employ a dot matrix grid on the glass. You can see it depending on how dim the screen is, and if there is light reflecting on it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PXP38BA

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RO50OI2

This is a new one:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015DVKJCO

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I completely agree with the edges of the iLoome, you could even see the screen image reflective in it.

Are you still liking the Mocolo? Could you post a few pictures if how it looks?

They now have one posted with the black border on the edges, but looking at a review, it looks to have a bit of a halo on it.

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Mocolo-Free-Shipping-For-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4-Full-Covered-Tempered-Glass-Screen-Protector-black-side/102534_32268281856.html

Update:

There is a new edge-to-edge from intelliArmor

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015DVKJCO

But I think they are just using an older stock image. I emailed them about it.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
I've attached some images of my Mocolo 0.1mm - apologies if they aren't brilliant, my old Droid 4 isn't great at photos. I tried to highlight the worst areas of halo in the close-ups, which isn't really bad at all.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
Not too bad, most of the halo is on the upper right. Was there a reason you opted for the Mocolo .10mm instead of the .21 or .33? The thicker ones probably provide better drop protection I would think. After trying that iCarez .15mm and iLoome .10mm and the iLoome broke just by my fingernail at the edge, I'm wondering if it being too thin is a bad thing?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] vicariouscheese:
Anyone using a screen protector with an otterbox defender? Just want to know which will fit inside it, has the plastic screen taken out already.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
I'm more interested in scratch protection than drop, and I want it to be as unnoticeable as possible, so for me, the thinner the better. I was also hoping, maybe incorrectly, that the thinner the protector the more flex it would have, and so the less likely it was to suffer from halo, so I have concentrated on trying out thin ones.

BTW - I have tried the 0.21mm version, and quite like that too (I've mentioned it a few times in this thread, I think).
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
Yeah, I get your point. I've got the intelliArmor edge to edge protector coming this week, so interested in seeing how it compares to the Cailifu and Coolbo ones I tried two weeks ago. Its fairly new, so no reviews of it. I emailed the company and they said it does have the dot matrix grid.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] tomy159:
So it is that true? all this cover got matrix grid. I got now a few weeks this and I see grid is well, I was just thinking it is on all same protectors or is just problem with my. and is oleo fingerprint. is terable to clean up display.

now I just thing to buy new one but if all this model got same problem I must find different screen protector.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
It appears that only the edge-to-edge screen protectors have the dot matrix grid. It has something to do with the fact that they are only held in place along the edges, and these "dots" help with the touch sensitivity. Regular glass screen protectors that do not go to the edges do not have these dots, since the glass makes full contact with the screen.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] tomy159:
I dont have edge but on that screen protectors I got matrix grid is well. But it is just my maybe I just got faulty one.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
Earlier this week I ordered the new one by intelliArmor and the one I had before by Coolbo, and got them in today.

First off, the Coolbo one I got in today has a different box than the one I got two weeks ago. When I opened it up, it just has the screen protector and a wet wipe, just like before. When I lookes at the glass, the dot matrix on it is more and equal to the Cailifu I had tried. The first Coolbo had less dots on it than this one. So that tells me that since the box is different and the dot grid is different, that they are probably made by different manufactures in China.

I then opens up the intelliArmor, and the package is a bit nicer, not only has a wet wipes, but a micro fiber cloth, blue plastic lint remover, and instructions. When I looked at the glass on it, I was shocked that it is IDENTICAL to the one from Coolbo that I opened a few minutes earlier. All the cut outs, dot grid, everything the same.

If I have time to post a picture, you could not tell which one was sold as intelliArmor or Coolbo.

So whoever makes these over in China is obviously selling these to different companies just to have them box it and put their name on it.

The price is only $3 difference between them, but at least with the intelliArmor you get instructions, a cleaning cloth and lint remover.

Update:

I had the intelliArmor one installed for a few hours, then put on the Coolbo one. Identical. I took some pics and will have to post them later at my PC.

So for $12-$15 for these two brands, the actual glass product is identical. Only difference if the company that sells it, box, and the intelliArmor coming with instructions and cleaning cloth.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
Here are a few pictures of the intelliArmor and Coolbo edge-to-edge screen protector.

As you can see, both glass protectors are identical. The only real difference is the packaging and what is included.

Also, the intelliArmor has a Lifetime Warranty, the Coolbo says nothing, no email or anything.

So for the $3 price difference, it'd be better to go with the intelliArmor.

I'm also including a picture of the iLoome Screenmate Light that broke on me last week just by using my thumb to get an air bubble out. I finally got reply back from iLoome asking for a picture, which I sent them today, and they are refunding the $25 back without me having to send it to them.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] sherpa25:
Which do you prefer? It seems there's no glass protector w/o the black edges that will cover fully. I'm not sure though how the shiny black edges look on the phone. Nonetheless, you have the link for Intelliarmor and Coolbo? I only see IntelliGlass, but not the one in your pic.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
The full edge-to-edge screen protectors work fine with the Samsung OEM case:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NP3K8Y2

And the Diztronic Case:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PUXOEKE

This is the intelliArmor:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015DVKJCO

Coolbo:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RO50OI2

Cailifu:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PXP38BA

Like I've said, all 3 of those screen protectors are pretty much identical. Only difference is the Cailifu has a clear opening that shows the Samsung name on the front and a two clear squares above the back and menu key. The intelliArmor and Coolbo cover up the Samsung name, and have an icon for the back and menu key that gives it a more custom look. With the intelliArmor installed and the Samsung OEM case, it doesn't even look like you have a screen protector on as it all fits together nicely.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] sherpa25:
How are fingerprints w/ the IntelliArmor ?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
Any screen protector will fingerprint if you have oil on your skin. But if I wash my hands first, then it will not fingerprint right away. But if using the phone for like an hour solid, it will have fingerprints. But all it takes is a quick wipe to get rid of them.

It really hasn't been a issue, nothing different than what would happened when using the bare screen.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
So after using the intelliArmor edge-to-edge screen protector for 5 days now, I am 90% satisfied with it. The only reason it's not 100% is because of the dots, which I "sometimes" see, depending on lights and any reflection, but after a few days I guess I've got use to it some, but when I do see them, I wish they weren't there.

Both the Samsung OEM case and Diztronic case work just fine with it. In fact, without a screen protector, the volume buttons on the Diztronic were very sensitive and would raise or lower the volume at the slightest touch. But now with the screen protector installed, it adddd a tad bit more glass pushing on the edge of the case, and now the volume buttons aren't as sensitive to the touch.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] FAUguy:
I got this message today from one of the manufacturers about the dots and why they are used:

"Our screen protectors do have the dot grid that you referred to. The grid is an intentional design feature called the "microgrid", which is made from inert silicone dots and has two main purposes: to improve the screen protector's touch sensitivity, and to reduce the likelihood of experiencing an optical phenomenon known as "Newton's rings" which can cause a rainbow-like effect resembling an oil slick to appear on the screen. This should not affect the usage of your device."
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ianpan24:
Thanx for the info.

After reading many many pages i think i ll try the intelliarmor screen protector. I hope i wont see those grids too often. After all i ll have a nice edge to edge protector that

covers samsung logo

.