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[X 2014 General] xnorex:
Nice summary! I couldn't have said it better. Moto X vs iPhone, The X is better in Price, Functionality, and Looks as far as I'm concerned. LOL at iPhone looking like it's former Chinese knock-offs.
[X 2014 General] barondebxl:
Compared to the Z3 compact...
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
Wow, nice. I really do wish the Moto X had that. But I charge my phone every night so I'm fine. Also, Sony will be slow at rolling out updates. I want it quick, and only Moto and Nexus has proven that it can be done

Sent from my Nexus 4
[X 2014 General] rapha.194:
What are your impressions about the iPhone 6? It's better than their previous phones ?

The Battery And good ? Which screen time on 3G / 4G ?

Thank you
[X 2014 General] barondebxl:
It's basically a bigger 5s. But that's what makes it great, it finally has a decent screen size. I absolutely love it although I'm trying to trade it for a 6+

It's 7:38 pm and I have used it since noon and I'm at 50% exactly so I'm happy!
[X 2014 General] godutch:
Battery is the same size as the m7, i can easily skip a night with moderate usage
[X 2014 General] Ananay Singh:
the moto X 2014 will have a bad battery life. the phones simply wasn't designed with battery life in mind. design and sleekness was more of a priority. Hence the 2300mAh battery. software tweak have a limit as well. even android L wont make a large difference (10-20%) I guess even motorola knew that the phone won't last that long. there is a reason why they are pushing the Turbo charger and the battery pack.
[X 2014 General] Faruko:
Off topic but... Also Sony its pretty much dead when it comes to smartphones (this division is pretty much the reason of the last 2b on loses), i wont be buying one of them anytime soon, at least not untill they finally get the entire division afloat.

For all we know, just like they did with Vaio, they could sell it to anyone, anytime.
[X 2014 General] godutch:
iphones have much smaller batteries but generally last much longer, there is a lot of software optimization still possible. With Greenify and nlp unbounce you should be able to greatly reduce idle drain
[X 2014 General] rapha.194:
Faruko, which screen time in his Moto G? The battery lasts enough?
[X 2014 General] Ananay Singh:
iphones are a different story. 1560mAh battery is pretty adequate for a 4 inch screen which has a resolution less that 720p. talking about software optimizations, android and iOS differ a lot in terms of how they fucntion. iOS is a lot more restrictive than android with not much running in the background, whereas android there's a lot going on with widgets, downloads, other third party extensions, etc. In short ,android won't get as good as iOS in terms of battery consumption, unless it gets as restrictive

BTW, iphone users have been complaining about battery life since the iphone 5.
[X 2014 General] godutch:
The iphone 6 has an 1810 mAh battery and a 750 x 1334 pixels, 4.7 inch screen, with Greenify(you do need the donation package and xposed for it to work properly) and NLP unbounce you can restrict much more what happens in the background when the screen is off, it can make a huge impact
[X 2014 General] Ananay Singh:
1. iPhone 6 doesn't have a very good battery life. people are already searching for battery tips

2. Told you android was coded differently.

3. lets just say that I agree with what you have to say about using greenify and NLP unbounce. there are two thing that I would like to say. Firstly, these apps manage the background services, so yes they will make the device last longer in standby, but they wont allow me watch an hour extra of video on my phone, in this case the new moto X , which has a 2300mAh battery.

secondly, most people don't know about greenify and other such apps .they simply use the phone as it came out of the box. majority don't even know about xda. plus you mentioned a donation for all this to work properly.

so all in all, it won't help a lot in the moto x's case. the moto x is like a sports car with a 15 gallon fuel tank. not to mention that motorola batteries lose their charge capacities in less than a year. so many frustrated moto x(2013) users out there
[X 2014 General] godutch:
Well google can make android a little bit more sane in what it allows to run in the background and mandate apps to use gcm for notifications (in effect doing what greenify does now) and it should use more sane default values for the nlp wakelock (once every minute is too much and completely unnecessary), this would go a long way for increasing battery standby time. Also when using the moto x, you could try to use as much black backgrounds as possible (maybe there is a nightmode, or nighmode xposed module) to maximize screen on time without sacrificing screen brightness

In the end it won't work miracles but it can make the moto x have a pretty acceptable battery life combined with the moto display(which makes it unnecessary to wake up the phone to check notifications) and antenna tuning (bad data reception being off the biggest battery killers), it could do pretty well in the real world
[X 2014 General] SymbioticGenius:
Any more battery screenshots to publish?
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
[MENTION=1865045]godutch[/MENTION] don't answer or argue with a troll :p.*Yes, battery is small and it all depends on usage. Heavy usage won't make the battery last really long. But for my usage, it'll be fine. There are already multiple reports saying the phone can last half a day at minimum. Fine with me

Sent from my Nexus 4
[X 2014 General] godutch:
I have never owned a phone with a bigger battery! It's not small, it's just that the other batteries are really big. I don't know if it would have been possible to fit in a bigger capacity battery without compromising on other things (dimension/weight), if Motorola could have than it is indeed a shame otherwise I am fine with 2300 mAh. Most people don't continuously use their phone either, they work, check notifications, answer them, make a few call, text a bit. I guess the moto x isn't going to be your phone if you need it for an in flight entertainment system on intercontinental flights but my prediction is that for day to day use it will hold out pretty well against other flagships
[X 2014 General] Faruko:
Cant remeber ive ever run out of battery so i dont really know, with 3G, etc... I can spend an entire day and have juice when im home.

If i have to make an estimate i would day 25-30 hours / 6-7 screen time

But thats an estimate, i will make a test tomorrow and get pictures for you... But this a year old Moto G !
[X 2014 General] MYxdaUSERNAME:
Seriously.

People are talking about needing 7 hours of screen-on time, that's a non-stop flight from New York to London. Sorry, I don't ever need my phone to have that much battery because I never go through a day with more than 1.5-3 hours of the screen on...like most people.

And what's the difference between having a Moto X and an external battery like the Moto Power Pack, or carrying a giant Note 3/4 and an extra battery? None as far as I can tell..so what good does that bigger, removable battery do? Nothing for the average user, in my opinion..
[X 2014 General] veloct:
:good: Excellent point.
[X 2014 General] SymbioticGenius:
The benefit of removable batteries has always been the option to get extended batteries. To this day the main thing I miss about my Samsung's was the 7500 mah zero lemon battery. On cm I was getting 2~3 days 10~15 hours screen time. Even though I have a 10k mah Anker pack it's still not the same cause now my pockets are full and I got wires around. I like this turbo charger idea, but we'll see how it works real world. Part of me is still waiting for a GS5 GPE, well see...
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
:eek: Which phone had this kind of battery ? And most of the Samsungs I know have worst battery performance in real life usage except few models like Note series.
[X 2014 General] SymbioticGenius:
Look up zerolemon. It's an extended battery company, best I've seen thus far.
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
Oh, I thought you were talking about stock battery. Sorry to say but really not interested in that type of ugly and bulky solution. :)
[X 2014 General] SymbioticGenius:
Function over form for me. Plus the case was great and I actually found it more comfortable with the extra size and weight
[X 2014 General] Julianocas:
Daily usage:

Weekend, almost full WiFi...

Conclusions:

Better than before.

Beautiful antenna. No more hopping signal.

Great governor. Deepsleep is almost immediately.

Overall, great battery life for me and my usage.
[X 2014 General] tacosrdelicioso:
Boom. Complainers can stick that in their corn
[X 2014 General] Julianocas:
Another normal daily usage...
[X 2014 General] mgymnop:
Would you mind running google now in comparison for a day or so? I want to know how it compares in case it is on. It was turned off if I remember right.

Thank you!
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
+1 would love to see that

But I think it'll be the same amount, with maybe 3h screen on time. I hope I'm wrong :p

Sent from my Nexus 4
[X 2014 General] Julianocas:
Exactly.

Yes, I will active it for today.
[X 2014 General] Infekxion:
These are my results from a %60 percent charge with three reboots. Tomorrow will be my first day of real world usage and I'll put up some more results.

Sent from my XT1097 Victara
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
wow, with 3 reboots (which does take some battery) and a SOT of 4h, that's pretty darn good
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
Guys,one thing making me wonder that what is actual meaning of 'Screen on Time' in case of MotoX ?

Question is do the battery monitor includes screen on time of active notifications also in the SoT stats ?

If so then the 4 hours of SOT may be just 3 hours or so in reality ?? !!!

:confused:
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
now that you mentioned it, i think it counts. so yeah, it may be only 3h SOT. that's still better than what i get, which is 1.5h on my Nexus 4 :p
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
Then its not at all good for me because I have been using a Atrix2 with 1735 mah battery and it gives me SoT of around 2.5-3 hours. And it hardly manages morning to evening on single charge if phone is heavily used and that kind of backup is on lower side for my usage pattern :(

The poor battery backup was one of the main reason I got irked for upgrade and thought that the MotoX will atleast be 130-140% better than Atrix2 since its got modern efficient hardware but looks like its not turning out that better. :(

I feel a revised version with the missing out things will soon come out once company will start getting the feedbacks. :o
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
the revised version will be next year :p

yeah, i suggest you wait. i will try to somehow see how the SOT is. i don't want to turn off active display, but i may need to so i can test. actually, i think there is an app that will probably show better usage of my battery, so i may use that to test
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
Thanks, :D

BTW I am already with no option other than waiting since the phone is launching today in our country, that too only in three color combinations and I think it will take some time till few more colour combination are made available. We never got Moto Maker facility with previosu X as well, we just got few preset combinations to choose from in.

Anyways which back cover you ordered? If plastic then please review the plastic cover also. Want to know if some different kind of soft touch plastic or the ordinary plastic we get with Samsung, LG, HTC etc :)
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
i tried looking for an app to monitor apps using the screen and i can't find one, so i won't be able to properly test it. i will post what i think about the plastic when i do get it
[X 2014 General] alhadee12:
I agree, if it's such a concern get the charger. Most people buy an extra battery for devices that have removable batteries. I also think phone usage is based upon a individuals job.
[X 2014 General] sailindawg:
If your usage is consistent, run one day with active display / notifications on, one day off to compare any differences due to active display.
[X 2014 General] mrvirginia:
uhhh 4-5 hours of screen on time is really good. 5hrs with wifi especially since it has already been proven that you'll actually save more juice if you have a good network connection versus wifi. very happy to see these screen shots.
[X 2014 General] Infekxion:
SOT is SOT no matter whats using it. I used my 2013 for 2 days as an alarm and listening to music and by the time it was in the red it had 20 minutes on screen.

Sent from my XT1097 Victara
[X 2014 General] Wutang200:
Hopefully it doesn't have the silly 1% battery issue of the 2013 version
[X 2014 General] Julianocas:
I think it doesn't.
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
I like Moto Display, and I don't want to turn it off. That's why I may not even test it :p

Sent from my Nexus 4
[X 2014 General] Infekxion:
Results from today, I had the luxury of a day off so I didn't get to see how well it'll hold up on LTE. Screen set on max brightness, Arcus weather syncing every two hours.

Sent from my XT1097 Victara
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
If on LTE, maybe it'll be 2 hours less

Sent from my Nexus 4
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
Guys, who have have had the phone for last few days and have got the idea how the battery is performing, suggesting them to switch the runtime to ART. There will be definite impact on the battery life. Try it out :)
[X 2014 General] Julianocas:
As requested, I activated GNow and Location with High Precision, without Location Report at G+.

The usage was Tapatalk, WhatsApp, YouTube, Chrome, Flipboard.

Morning: 4G all along.

Evening: WiFi and 4G.

Night: 4G until 9pm then WiFi.
[X 2014 General] Infekxion:
Wouldn't doubt it. On my N5 I go from 7am to about 12am with 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 hrs SOT before it gets in the red but I don't text and drive so I'm not gonna YouTube while forklifting. In other words I don't use my phone much at work. I'll have to go to park one day and watch some Netflix to really test it out.

Sent from my Hammerhead
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
Wow. That's all I can say. Impressive

Sent from my Nexus 4
[X 2014 General] veloct:
I would like to see the comparison with ART also.
[X 2014 General] km8j:
Ironic... People who love the original X wanted a bigger battery and hate the size of the new X. Moto is basically advertising for the Z3 compact. LOL.
[X 2014 General] kirdroid:
Nothing great on battery, but that was expected with an average battery capacity.
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
What are you talking about?? That's great to me! Lol

Sent from my XT1095
[X 2014 General] GHOSTIVVI:
Wow, this is almost as good battery as my OnePlus one!
[X 2014 General] Mazster43:
That kills what my Atrix HD can do. I don't think I'll be upset with battery life. Though a larger battery would have made me happier with being out on the lake and away from electricity and not worrying about the battery dying.
[X 2014 General] kirdroid:
Haha.. Yeah mean not bad, but not great as well. Gets thru the day with moderate usage. But still would have liked to see a bigger better capacity battery in a 5.2 inch phone.
[X 2014 General] gsusx:
I loved my moto x, i didnt care that it wasnt premium build quality, it had some sort of kitsch charm all of its own. It felt lovely in the hand, the only beef I had with it was the battery life.

FOr motorola to drop a bollock like this on the new one is just madness. This could easily have been the phone to beat had the equipped it with a 3000mah battery, but no, they didn't

When will companies realise that battery life is more important than .4mm off the size of a phone.
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
So I had 9h of battery with 44% left today before I connected to WiFi. That was playing music for 3hrs with Viper audio, hangouts, Twitter, and LTE the whole time. No WiFi. SOT was 1.5h. Not bad to me

sent from my Moto X (2014)
[X 2014 General] Jayrod1980:
I have really poor signal a lot of the day where I am currently and where my old moto x could get 6h SOT on cellular and last all day I'm getting 3.5 to 4 right now. I was at the hospital and ended up with at least 15-17% of the time with no signal with the new Moto X and the battery is at least serviceable. It's definitely better than my old moto. I'm curious to see what it will do with strong signal, but I have to send this one back... Red speck in the screen.... Backordered white fronts too. Might be awhile.
[X 2014 General] Jayrod1980:
Forgot the pictures...
[X 2014 General] Jayrod1980:
Honestly, the perfect Moto X for me would have been an AMOLED around the size of the Nexus 5, like 4.9 inches or so at 1080p. They could keep the exact design they have, but shrink the size according to the 4.9 inch screen. When you hold the phone you can tell there's some dead space between your hand and the back. They could easily keep the same shape but increase the "hump" enough to put a 2800mah battery in there. They release the phone like that and it would have been a slam dunk hit. I wonder why they settled on a 5.2 inch panel that's not even as good as the s5. Considering last year's panel was Samsung sourced, does anyone else even make AMOLED screens anymore? I'm disappointed. It's a great phone... better in speed, interface, and even a little better than the Moto X from last year in battery. I'm just disappointed it's so much bigger without any big gains to counter the less ergonomic size.

However, it still is probably the best android phone out today other than its predecessor. I would look at the z3 compact, but Sony is horrible on support, no clue about unlocked boot loader, and there's no way that it matches all the awesome Android enhancements Motorola has done in the last year. Specs still aren't everything.
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
I feel that "the real dark slim" feature of SlimKat Rom can turn out a very battery saving feature on the AMOLED screen of the Moto X.

When real dark mode is turned on, the black colour turns into full black which means the pixels covering black portion of the AMOLED screen of the MotoX will remain off and won't consume battery.

Isn't there any way that features like dark-slim can be implemented in the stock ROM of the MotoX?
[X 2014 General] markwebb:
Mine is OK. Light to moderate usage. Emails, XDA, browsing, light you tube, installation of apps.
[X 2014 General] Jayrod1980:
Alright starting to get better battery now. Auto bright again doesn't do a great job. I've had horrible service all day and I'm at 26% and almost 5 hours SOT about 13 hours into the battery off charger.
[X 2014 General] markwebb:
OK latest number after waking up from last night. Again, OK and nothing to write home about. Barely over 3 hours of sot but with moderate usage.
[X 2014 General] mgymnop:
So far I am very satisfied with the battery life. Way better than my N5. I have to admit that never play games on my phone and neither watch full length movies; power users might have a problem with the rather small battery.
[X 2014 General] ok2nvnexus:
Well I just published what good of battery I got today and went to plug in my phone to charge it and was plugged in for about two mins now its says this ....jump from 4% to 91%... And now it wolnt charge...wtf lol
[X 2014 General] martinezma99:
Battery life with sync on, location on, moto voice on, google now on, and brightness set at Auto.
[X 2014 General] onthecouchagain:
How is it people are getting such good battery results, but nearly all reviews they say the battery life is average at best.

Not saying I don't believe y'all. Just wondering how there's such a huge discrepancy.
[X 2014 General] Ananay Singh:
It's simple. The reviewers use this phone for everything. Browsing, photography, movies, navigation, gaming, streaming music and videos. Most of the users with such good battery life results don't do half the things
[X 2014 General] erikiksaz:
Right... So all the people reporting screen-on time are just having the screen ON sitting idly doing nothing. Where's that *rolls eyes* emoticon?

If you find any posted screen shots of someone whose battery lasted two days with <30 mins of SOT, then you've got something to say.
[X 2014 General] Ananay Singh:
Ask the users then! But I don't think they're doing some heavy stuff with this phone. Doesn't make sense. what if the active display for notifications is also counted as SOT?
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
i dont think it is counted. for example, i use xposed and gravitybox. i enabled the feature "media volume controls" when screen is off and playing music. that works, even with active display going off, so that tells me that active display may not count as SOT, or i would not be able to go to my next track by holding down the up volume button
[X 2014 General] sailindawg:
[MENTION=4941362]martinezma99[/MENTION]

Looking your screen shots over, you say you had location on, but i see no GPS utilization. Did you have the GPS turned off?
[X 2014 General] mgymnop:
The reviewers use artificial test with video loops, 50% brightness etc.

The users here with good battery life use real world conditions. Of course I can run down my battery in 10 hours by playing a CPU intensive game. The thing is I don't play games on my phone so I have good battery life.
[X 2014 General] robstunner:
Not all reviewers, mkbhd reported 2-3hrs SOT with his usage to where he had to change his usage patterns to get it to last into the night. Only thing holding me back is battery and the possibility of a non shamu nexus release.
[X 2014 General] martinezma99:
I think the initial reviews used older firmware. I've had firmware and multiple Moto X updates. They are making progress tweaking the phone for increased battery improvement.

I was concerned too but not anymore after real life testing for my needs.

On a side note, updates on Moto 360 have radically improved battery life. Be patience, this is a new phone.

---------- Post added at 06:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:16 PM ----------

If you zoom in on image, you will find GPS on multiple occasions.
[X 2014 General] onthecouchagain:
That's good to know! These reviews should really update their results after firmware updates. The battery life reviews have been off putting.
[X 2014 General] Turntabl1st:
I have pretty horrible battery life :(
[X 2014 General] Jayrod1980:
Ok so yesterday I had it on for almost 15 hours and managed just over 6 hours SOT. The only thing turned off was Auto Brightness. Again it seems that auto brightness has a huge effect on battery life. It tends to set the screen too high when in low light, and not enough in bright situations, as well as probably sapping battery by having the light sensor on all the time. This mind you was with everything synced, google now, all that, and with 2-3 bars of service on LTE. This new location I'm at is significantly harder on my old Moto X as well, since I used to have 5 full bars at home.
[X 2014 General] onthecouchagain:
6 hours of screen on time is amazing. Can you post any screens? Not saying I don't believe you, but would love definitive proof. I want to be a believer!
[X 2014 General] martinezma99:
Here's my final battery stats from yesterday. Sync On, Dalvik, Location On, Google Now On, Moto Voice On, both WiFi and LTE.

14 total hours and 5.45 Screen On Time.

I didn't do anything special other than to check for wake locks. Most people whose battery is bad is either wake lock or really bad signal strength. Otherwise, you should see decent battery life for 2300 size battery.
[X 2014 General] Jayrod1980:
I'm having a hard time taking screens on this phone without root or exposed. It always calls the volume bar because I have to hold power and down volume.

If I wasn't exchanging this phone I would do all that. Mine has a red spot on the glass. Too bad white faced models are back ordered
[X 2014 General] Jayrod1980:
Kinda useless without the numbers but at least the time is the same
[X 2014 General] jc332986:
Typical day at work. A little better than my One (M7).

Sent from my Moto X 2nd Generation