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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
no need to apologize, you are definitely a respected member of the community, and you certainly cant control the actions of others. since POF was on this before i was then i presented him with the option. He decided to wait and see if it returns to normal before locking this thread. so we will wait!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] znmax:
Asukal,I'm sorry but i only want make sure the truth.

Because Mr.W said it to me ...

and he said,Asukal,you r not japanese
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
This has nothing to do with the thread, or phones, etc.. If the slanderous post's do not stop you will be banned, this is your warning!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] somatom:
I think that majority of wm5 fun will support you ,coz hero is always hero,we will love wm5 more under you technical support .
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shamilsh:
It's lie.

From Where did you get such silly story?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Daimaou:
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh Good to hear that Askual is :

1) Alive

2) Was not getting a suntan in Barbados island with this Mr W. Money ;), Well Actually I have nothing against Askual getting a suntan

Is it very pity that SB is Hijacking the future of Windows Mobile device like this, I am mean, more people "hack" the soft/hard of a device more people buy the device, and more they generate revenue.

Now Since the phone industry in Japan look like a Yakuza business I am sure that HTC has a hard time there, but they should maybe start doing like other (Nokia?) and selling their device directly to consumers...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] aquasesh:
This is a lively thread and alot of info to digest.

To be honest, i think the new 1.09 bootloader is a result of cracking any older bootloader to unlock the phone. I mean, seeing how minimal the actual changes in the new rom are (Password and bootloader only, was it?).

Ergo, the more we hack those things, the harder the future releases will be, until we have a nonflashable device, or SB pulls WM5 off the market.

Dont get me wrong, its welcome to have an unlocked device, and maybe SB should consider to provide the unlock as a chargable service.

Maybe after you finished the contract, or paid it off at least.

I also think, the market situation in Japan IS in fact grim, and quiet frankly, i would not be so pissed off about having a locked device if the service provided (not only SB) would be reliable. But it seems to me, since the Japanese society is more passive about those things, there is virtually no pressure for ISPs and Carriers to improve or guarantee reliability of their services.

For me personally, the X01ht is a great device. But it seems it doesnt work as well as its counterpart in other countries. I have to soft reset several times a day. It freezes, crashes and alot of other things dont really work that well. I changed the rom, i unlocked, i tweaked and modded. But this is not how its supposed to be. I dont wanna spend 1 month researching, fine tuning and modifying a phone that i need to use instantly.

In all fairness, i think Asukal should NOT release this hack until he thinks its the right time. But i also think SB should not complain about us here doing what we do. It is because of SB being incapable of delivering a service that match the target consumer of this particular phone (e.g. English OS option, Exchange sync problems, etc).

PS.. You are all invited to join our monthly XDA Developers Event in Tokyo on the 9th of January from 7pm at THE PINK COW in Shibuya. Maybe a chance to vent some steam.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] taicyber:
agree with Asakul

I really agree with Asakul. I am a person who waited for

Smart phone coming to Japan for many years. I do not want

Smart phone market in Japan is closed by unlock rom or anything.

Even if I am not Japanese but I want to encourage Smart phone

market in Japan increases more than this.:)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] somatom:
whatever phone service prodiver is,the customer always is victim,so we need to fight with prodiver,create good enviroment for Asakul to release new unlocker.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] KevinBaker:
I just honestly cannot believe that you guys think that one man releasing an unlocker on a developers forum will cause the downfall of the entire smart phone market in Japan.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pof:
Believe it or not, it's his decision if he wants to make it public or not for whatever reasons he has, and you can't do anything other than respect his decision or research a method to unlock yourself, we are here to help in that matter :)

I can say that the solution Asukal found is not production ready: we tested on two devices and both are totally bricked after flashing a ROM after unlocking them, and the radio flashed on them was not working properly for GSM and data connections, so even if he releases it, it will screw up your phone functionality.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] somatom:
I absolutely agree with what pof said,what do you do is all for us,so ,we can wait.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] lindseyp:
The problem is that the phone market in Japan up to now has been one in which the providers sell the phone at or below cost, in the expectation that the contract fees will pay for the phone. Softbank has taken this even further and is charging way less than the phone is worth. Probably less than it costs to make ($250!?)

Up to now in Japan people have been discouraged from constantly upgrading by being charged extra high prices for changing models until they have kept their original phone for at least 10 months. Few people wanted to switch providers to take advantage of the discounted prices for new contracts, because that meant losing your phone number.

Now we have number portability. The only barrier to switching providers is now the e-mail address, but since many people have obscure addresses anyway and change them fairly regularly to avoid spam, this is not so much of an issue.

Also until recently the phones did not use SIMs and were hardware locked to the providers. They were also more advanced than foreign models. It's only recently that phones globally have caught up with Japanese ones on a technological level and it has become attractive to import models for use in Japan. So now we have phones with SIMs that can in some cases be unlocked, and no barrier to changing providers.

But the providers are not charging more for their phones! In a market where the phone itself is a valuable piece of hardware with or without a contract, and there is nothing to stop you cancelling your contract after just 1 day and paying very little for a great phone, the providers (e.g. Softbank) should be charging more for their phones, but they daren't. The first provider who does that will lose all their business.

So. Without the locks people will (and have been) buy the phones, cancel contracts and export them to countries where they are sold for their true value. If Softbank is paying a fair price for the phones, HTC will not immediately be affected, but Softbank will (and were!) be negatively affected, and will be far less likely to continue the line, which will in the future hurt HTC and any other manufacturer of high quality phones such as WM5.0 phones as softbank and other providers will steer clear of them.

I, for one, support Asukal's decision whilst Softbank is providing us with such an incredible deal. If they were charging 70,000 yen with disabled HSDPA like Docomo is, I would be strongly in favour of releasing the unlock hack, as it would be us, the customer, who is being ripped off.

As it is, Softbank is practically giving these things away, so if keeping them locked allows softbank to keep doing it, then good for them, and good for us.

my 2c.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Kevbodian:
i did not mention that buying and cancelling was how these others are doing their business. it's clear to me that you have no idea what YOU are talking about.

everything before the 'but' is correct, and after the 'but' you just contradict yourself.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] qtotter:
correct

of course we want it cheaper.

YOU THINK

$800 is NOT what it's worth, right? i simply pointed that out since i don't agree with you. i paid about u$1000 for an unlocked htc universal, but this x01ht is more worth to me than universal. i paid more than u$2000 for vaio u71p, but this x01ht is more worth to me than u71p. whether a thing is worth or not simply depends on individual's cost-acceptance, doesn't it? i don't think i am the only one who thinks this way. i don't call you by a name simply because i disagree with you...

some people think car parking is expensive in tokyo, park their cars on the street, and cause traffic jam. they don't even care, and say "car parking is expensive in tokyo." i don't agree with them, either.

903sh is an OLD model which s/b no longer sells. they have already adopted the new business model of "phone leasing" since October 2006. you are explaining about something which happened before in the present tense as if what you described were still happening. i simply pointed out this story no longer makes sense.

again, you are explaining about something which happened before in the present tense as if what you described were still happening.

it's called business. we are all living in the same world where business makes money and pays our salary, right?

your comment was written while we were discussing about valid users in japan and invalid users outside of japan who bought x01ht from smugglers, and you also use those words "valid" and "invalid." is it natural to think you were talking about how those smugglers acquired x01th? Or is it only my english problem that i happened to misunderstand so??

before you get upset and call me by a name like "assface", why can't you simply discuss like an adult? at last, when you call me by a name next time, i prefer to be called "smartass" to "assface":-)

sorry, i am way off the track. i just wanted to be clear. cheers.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] derpelikan:
japanese business model is crap

i had a contract in germany, still have with E-PLUS since years.

i was a vodafone customer for 7years and but than i changed to eplus and i never did regret it.

eplus never had any crap like simlocking the phones.

they are smarter than vodafone and did offer better service etc.

the result that i got an unlocked phone, i have since than continued to pay the fee of 15Euro a month which is the cheapest fee they offer for 4 years.

i still think that even with the gold plans etc. the softbank prices and other prices in japan are way too high.

i think most of us are not willing to sell their x01ht. for me it is only the need to be able to use another SIM from another country, i can use my japanese sim in china or thailand .

the whole SIM-Lock system needs to be broken in japan, and it is a total bull**** that HTC will suffer. The system in japan is wrong, and Softbank should get Sony P990 , W950i etc.

Its similar to the JAL thing, jal didnt join any alliance in the aviation industry they thought they can do it alone, but well after years they now joined an alliance. the point is, the japanese companies have only people working for them, who havent any knowledge from other countries, this is the big gap!

The japanese consumer is just too stupid, and devot, japanese get ripped off in japan all the time.

POF and others, dont listen to these monks , as protection is only bad for the consumer, what we need in any market is a free of barrier competition and a fair contract for the consumer.

dp
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] qtotter:
i mostly agree with you that the mobile phone business model in japan is no longer healthy although it helped the market expand.

i think the japanese careers will not start providing unlocking services until all of them change the current business model, which may take years. this also includes consumer education because not many of the consumers in japan know about sim-lock (and the careers even want consumers to believe unlocking is a bad thing!)

rome was not built in a day... i don't think miracle happens only by releasing a x01ht unlocker to realize a fair market in japan.

there is an interesting survey (in japanese.) you can see this market is quite unique.

http://media.excite.co.jp/keitai/mnp/anq01.html
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] chainbolt:
Right!

I am also a bit fed up with this constant Softbank bashing. DoComo is not selling the Tytan to individual customers, and it's anyway much more expensive than the Softbank deal. AU is not offering any WM capable phone, and the W-Zero from Willcom works only with PHS. If Softbank would not provide this deal to us, we would would be left with nothing. I was also waiting for YEARS for such a "package" like Softbank is now offering, and I wish them all success, because otherwise we are empty handed.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] qtotter:
i totally agree. i also wish them all success, and hope they will give us a better/cheeper deal of internet access in the future.

actually, they sell htc z (hermes) to existing individual customers in the kanto area.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] derpelikan:
yep

i hope too, that Softbank will kick DOCOMO in their FAT ass.

white plan is a good and cheap. thats 6 euro a month.

its getting better in japan .

anyway, i hope that NOKIA , SONY and other makers do approch the japanese carrier more, as i dont get it why P990 or other phones are not sold in japan.

and i hope the iphone 3G version will come out soon :)

dp
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kanakira:
thank

ou--you are cool
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] awh_tokyo:
I don't know if the internet access is too expensive for me -- 9800/month for unlimited seems reasonable. However, I really dislike how locked-down the internet access is. If I'm gonna pay 9800/month for data, I want to be able to use it for MSN Messenger, ssh, remote desktop, etc., without resorting to setting up a VPN...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] qtotter:
i thought i had already reported this, but s/b has stopped restricting ssl. i enjoy msn messenger on my x01ht now. try.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gojapan:
please keep working.......don't giveup:o :o :o :o
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] qtotter:
i think no one is proactively working on this now...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] awh_tokyo:
Well, now that imei-check has it, that's all I care about. I don't mind paying (or having my friends who got the phone too late pay) the 4500 yen each...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] qtotter:
it is good news for those who have been waiting!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] derpelikan:
error

i get an error if i enter my X01HT imei into the field.

of imei .

anybody else having the same problem?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] qtotter:
at what stage did you get the error? when you input your imei at the imei-check site or when you unlock with the key file unique for your imei?

you should check your imei by the way that imei-check says. dial *#06# to check it again just in case.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] derpelikan:
hi

the error occurs at imei-check. not in the tool.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] derpelikan:
imei

btw. i did use the imei in my phone, and the one which is under the batterie.

*#06# is not giving me the imei number. this is the first time i have seen a phone, where the *#06# does not give out the imei number.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] qtotter:
i just tried with my imei, but no error happened at all.... Did you follow the caution;

"Note that on HTC Hermes label IMEI is 15 digits, if you type *#06# on phone it will be 17 digits, but unlocking will need only the FIRST 15 digits."

if you did, any screenshots of the error?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] qtotter:
this is weird... my x01ht gives me the imei... you pushed *#06# on 電話, right?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] derpelikan:
temp error

i think there was something wrong with the site.

it did work now with the same number.

phone is sim lock free now.

btw. you still have to install the welcome .exe .
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] qtotter:
congrats.

it's simply unlocked your x01ht. the softbank sim monitoring process is still running on it, and you'd need welcome.exe to kill the process if you want to use a sim from other companies.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] feedles:
I also agree.

The phone has some disabled features, but it is still great to have a good pda&mobile in one device available for use in Japan.

It seems softbank is trying its best to satisfy this market with good price plans and an affordable smartphone - to me they seem to currently be the little guy competing against some strong players who have made plenty out of a mutually beneficial status quo over the past decade.

I hope softbank proves to be the same disrupter to this business to the same level they were in the broadbank ISP business.

I just don't think we should knock softbank for offering us a great deal. They are supplying the majority of their customers with a good service - and after their telecom business has matured or at least stabilized to a degree I am sure they will put more efforts into satisfying their smaller user bases of customers - probably in order of size of the community (translate to strength of over all customer needs) and effort/business risk involved.

Let's remember that wm5 is based on windows ce and is not engineered (to my knowledge) to be multilingual per OS image.

WM5 is the first version of windows I have appreciated since .... scratch that, it is the first version of windows I have preferred to use over the alternatives available for the need.

Lets hope that softbank realizes the majority of us appreciate their efforts.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] derpelikan:
softbank japan

i think the real sucess for softbank in japan will come if they do the following.

get rid off SIMLOCK phones.

with the current change of the discounts, all discounts will not be applied to the hardware costs itself but only to the data and phone plans etc. it is now impossible to buy the phones cheaper than the market price.

for example the 706P from panasonic now will cost you around 50.000 yen.

you have to pay this money over a two year period.

if you chose the white plan of 960yen , than they will only make it -960yen , so the phone will cost you still 50.000 yen.

as we are now paying the full price for these phones, i am at the opinion that there is no need for a simlock. as proved in europe, simlocks didnt do anything good to the provider. as we all now, a customer normally changes the provider every 2-4 years if number portability is given. a provider who is locking there phones without discounting them heavily will for sure not again get the customers business.

my advice to SOFTBaNK is to open the system.

1.) NO SIMLOCK (doesnt make any sense as we pay the full mobile phone price)

2.) NO LIMITATION on INTERNET USE, just introduce a WIDEPLAN, use it with mobile phone, laptop, whatever, you pay a FLAT OF 5000 YEN.)

3.) Make a new GOLD PLAN ( 24Hours to Softbank free, SMS, MMS, EMAiL free) price 2100 YEN

4.) SELL mobile phones in your shop, why do we have to make a new contract each time we want a new phone? thats crap. just sell these phones at the full price .

5.) introduce other companies not only nokia and HTC, what about razor, P990i etc. etc.

come make it really 予想外:eek:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jello_e:
imei-check = SuperCID too?

let me get this clear, if I use imei-check unlocker to SIM unlock my hermes, will it also be super CID and I can install any ROM i want?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pof:
You can do that with SSPL... no need to use imei-check unlocker.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Zgembo:
I want to attempt following on PostDec2nd X01HT:

1. Run SSPL to flash BootLoader 1.01

2. Reboot & run SSPL again to flash SIM unlocked radio (1.27 for example)

3. Using 1.01 BootLoader, flash some English ROM, maybe even WM6

Are these proper steps? Anyone suggest something better? What are the risks of doing this? Has anybody tried this before on post Dec2nd x01ht??? Sorry, but I'm bit afraid of bricking...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jello_e:
confused...

does this mean i can now use your unlocker to unlock my new x01ht?:confused:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] thefunkygibbon:
dont mean to sound stupid , but how do you tell if you have a X01HT rather than a "non X01HT" and is there any benefit?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] piaget1010:
then give it to me.

me, me, me i want it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mjchen11:
Great Xmax Gift

my SB can not flash radio now, waiting for your great gift
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] adityakw:
No... not yet, if you use X01HT post April 2007. These method didn't unlock the phone if post-April, I have tried it so many times. You can unlock it by using imei-check or nextgenserver, several user here have tried it and success. Or may be you can wait the Christmas give by Asukal.

I still waiting for the prize, let it be???
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] adityakw:
Hmm... miss-undestanding...

You can use pof-unlocker for SuperCID, so you can install any ROM, but you still can't unlock the post-April. Lets try the imei-check or nextgenserver.

Keep trying. My 3 pieces of X01HT can't be unlocked by pof tools cause these post-April.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] adityakw:
I am too...

Still waiting until now...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] adityakw:
Imei-check just to unlock the phone to the newest version too, post-April.

For using any ROM you can use pof tools to have SuperCID.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] tonidekohlanta:
No, imei check will super CID your phone. Imei check will fully unlock everything CID and SIM. The only problem is that you cannot change radio firmware. But if your phone is recent (ie 1.46 radio) it's OK to keep, it stable and doesn't suck battery.
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
Google finally updated Hangouts app and added new app Hangouts dialer that allows one to make regular phones calls using data.

Let's discuss Nexus 4 related experiences here.
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
Voice quality wise, this is the best quality among 10+ VOIP solutions. I have tried many in the last 2 years using N4. The quality is great on LTE 4g,

However, I noticed a slight more lag when doing an echo test at 909-390-0003 especially on LTE.

Another nice new feature is to voice call (not video call) to Hangouts contacts. This doesn't rely on PTSN (regular phone network) so the quality is superior.