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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kawaisa:
barely, it's about the same length and width wise but a little thicker as you can see in the 2nd photo. Nothing noticeable. The rounder shape of the slim armor makes it look thicker. The Neo Hybrid is more angular.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] East_Coast:
Thanks. If you had to keep just one which would it be? Does one feel better in your hand? The neo's back looks gripper.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kawaisa:
Neo is gripper but the slim armor looks like it would do better in a drop and it has the kickstand. Neo is just more subtle. Id have a tough time choosing.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] QuickStriker:
Very nice pictures! Make me want both of them even more. Debating if I should grab the gold color, the pictures on Amazon looks nice but will it look nice real-time?

Personally I'll own both as long as they are of different colors so that you can swap on certain days depending on your mood. Like I'm feeling blue today, guess I'll use my blue case lol.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ohbreeeezy:
@Kawaisa Do you feel like the frame of Neo Hybrid will break anytime you remove the case?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kawaisa:
No, it's a little bit malleable. Maybe a drop might crack it but I really don't feel that it would crack from case removal
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] UCSB:
I have the Note 4 Neo Hybrid case: it will be fine just removing the phone ... you shouldn't have to remove the frame to remove the phone.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] refinition:
You don't need to worry, they'll send it out.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] egodriver07:
Great thread and useful comments and pics guys. Love XDA for this stuff. Counting down til Friday!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] liquidblue1985:
Absolutely love these cases. Had one on my note 3. Pre-ordered the electric blue from amazon today. Too bad there's a few weeks before it ships out :(
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] borijess:
Just got my spigen neo hybrid. Looks great the case.

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 2! ?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] 48bloo:
Does anybody with the Neo Hybrid have any experience with using headphones with larger than average audio jacks, specifically the ATH M50's? I'm thinking about purchasing this case, but am afraid that my headphones won't be able to fit (I've had this problem in the past)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] twe90kid:
Returning this case... Adds more bulk than I want.. The cutouts for headphone jack is small and anything premium want fit correctly. Also the charging port is small, my OTG cable was giving me a hard time. Oh... And the heart rate monitor is a b*tch to use with the case on. Good luck using the heart rate monitor for selfies.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jinda628:
I have the neo hybrid and:

- i dont like the textured feel at the back unlike the smooth back on note 3.

- finger cant touch heartrate monitor due to back cover being thick on that part of the case. Never had a successful measurement in like 50+ tries when case is on. So annoying.

Still looking for something to replace this. Sucks because I like neo hybrid in my note 3.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] uapyro:
Same problem with the HR sensor for me. I like the case, but between that and the fact that it won't fit in my Samsung HDMI/USB/Aux dock because of the phone height. So I'll probably return mine too.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] borijess:
Yes the heart rate does not work with this case. I switched to an otterbox commuter case for temporary use until my Maverick UAG CASE gets here. The heart rate sensor worked on the first try.

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 4! ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] californiarailroader:
You have to relax when you do it-

http://www.spigen.com/brands/samsung/galaxy-note/galaxy-note-4/galaxy-note-4-case-neo-hybird.html
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] elracing21:
So to confirm the case only covers the mics on the verizon note 4?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] siraltus:
Works perfectly - just use your pinky instead (horizontally along the sensor), works great for me. I love the Neo-Hybrid case.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] high kick:
is the tpu on the neo hybrid the same material as the spigen ultra capsule? if so, does anyone have any scratches on the metal part of their phone from removing the neo hybrid? i'm thinking about getting a neo hybrid, but someone on amazon posted pictures of the ultra capsule scratching the crap out of their metal.

link for reference
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] borijess:
Gave up on the neo hybrid sold it for 30 bucks and bought a UAG MAVERICK. Won't be switching cases anytime soon. UAG is a great case saved my Note 2 many times.

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 4! ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ogretech:
I like the look and feel of the Neo Hybrid well enough, but I will be returning it due to lack of access to the heartbeat monitor. Perhaps I have larger than average fingers, but no amount of fiddling (with any finger, in any orientation) has resulted in a successful check in a many, many tries.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] RMXO:
Yeap, I returned mine due to the same issue plus my headphone jack doesn't plug in all the way due to the hole being too think or not large enough for the plug to fit in correctly.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] turtle*:
Anyone have shots of the red or silver one?

Only ones posted is metal slate, which looks amazing!

I got a yellow one on my white s4 after seeing a great picture of it on here.

I got the dark note4 so I want to try out the light silver case.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] il buono:
Here are some pics of the silver with the black note 4.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] turtle*:
Very nice. Your thoughts on the case?

I'm pretty much sold on silver.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] twe90kid:
blocks heart rate sensor to the point where it's almost useless. can't access heart rate sensor properly for selfie shot.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] turtle*:
I don't selfie. But I thought HRM works if u put finger sideways (horizontal) and/or use your pinky
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] il buono:
This is my first and only Note 4 case for now, so I can't compare to others. With that said, it's a nice sleek case that doesn't add much bulk to the device. The back has a texture to it that makes it have a nice grip. The Note 4 fits perfectly in it so I wouldn't expect it to easily pop out should it be dropped. When resting on a flat surface the case provides a nice lip for both the screen and camera. I can see where the headphone jack could be a problem for some since it's a bit recessed, but my L-shaped plugs still fit nicely. Oh and the heart rate sensor selfie still works fine for me

Sent from my Note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] borijess:
I liked this case but felt it didn't have enough protection. Especially around the front bezel.

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 4! ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] A|ex:
i am going to do the same but waiting for the release because spigen cases on their site tend to be more expensive.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] edvin15:
update from Spigen

got this email from CSR:

"Thank you very much for your purchase with us and I am sorry for the inconvenience you are experiencing.

We have tested the Note 4 cases and while the cases are compatible with most domestic carriers (T-Mobile, AT&T, Sprint..etc) and all International versions of the phone, it looks like Verizon variant of the phone has the mic in slightly different location.

Our developers have reviewed this variant and created a universal version of the TPU that will fit the Verizon version of the phone better!

We will be able to ship out this TPU to you within 1-2 week time frame.

Thank you so much for your patience and for letting us know of this variance so we can assist you more promptly.

Once the replacement package has processed out, you will receive a separate email notification."
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] 19Interpol:
To get this email from them, did you first contact them through their site?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] edvin15:
I contacted them through Amazon, where I bought the case from.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] MT0227:
Just got mine yesterday, looks and feels great. HRM does not work (tried everything, pinky, sideways...etc), also my headphone plug does not fit, case is too think for it to reach. Probably will need to send it back for something different. Too bad.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jdidtht:
I can do it. It takes a bit to get used to it, but it does indeed work fine.

---------- Post added at 07:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:15 PM ----------

I got the blue trimmed neo, and I've owned the neo for the note 3 and multiple spigen cases across different devices, and I have to say, I think in comparison to even the note 3 case, the interior rubber material is much harder, on my note 3 it wasn't nearly as hard. The interior edges of this neo are like razor blades, and it's left little scratches on the bezel of my phone. I'm comparing the two cases right now and the n3 interior is more pliable and a softer material for sure in comparison. It looks great as always, but it bugs the crap out of me that it's scuffing the bezel. I just received my uag maverick case today, and this case is pretty effing nice as well. Missed uag. Also, I sanded the interior lip off of the new neo, not such a hard sharp edge anymore, hopefully it doesn't scuff my phone anymore.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jongilluley:
Got my blue neo hybrid today. Bought it from the Spigen UK eBay shop as was a bit cheaper on there.

Got to say I'm pleased with it. Fits snug and looks great and doesn't add much bulk to the phone itself once fitted.

Also got an orange UAG case coming so will see what that's like but I'm thinking I'll keep the neo hrbrid on for a while.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] GreenGoblin227:
I got the case, I had to modify the case.. I used an pick heated it up with a torch and melted through the rubber. After I drilled holes with a drill bit to make the holes larger so the two mics work correctly...

Pics to follow...
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] turtle*:
I got my silver one. Haven't installed it but have used the phone yet.

Quick 5 minutes with it, hrm doesn't work for me. But the case feels great, much like the neo hybrid on my s4.

Now I need a tempered glass. Any recommendations?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] vegabyson:
xtreme guard. odered 2 for $12. i normally use their regular sp's but decided to try these. will report on them when the arrive
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] couragedragon:
I got mine today and am going to return it.

I couldn't get the heart rate monitor or the oxygen sensor to work at all no matter what I did even according to Spigen's instructions.

The headphone cutout was small as well and it still blocked the Verizon mic.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] TutenStain:
Thanks!

What screen protector do you use?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] slowz3r:
How does this case lign up with the mic holes on the vzw note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ohbreeeezy:
look at it
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] nuscape:
Unfortunately this case scratched my note 4 metal frame :(
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] DreamerTKM:
Don't understand how a soft TPU material case will scratch the metal frame. Some pictures would be nice.

I am using Champagne Gold Neo Hybrid and I have no problem with it.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Do all the latest Spigen cases have the correct microphone cutouts for the Verizon Note 4?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] DreamerTKM:
I think no. I receive mine from Original Spigen and the cutouts fit my N910C nicely. So for Verizon I think still offset.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
If you look at this video the slim armor is Verizon ready out of the box.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20rV8C5Tals&list=UUx-LPKrNT5zOUOJpcWXR4FQ

I guess it would be another crap shoot ordering and hoping for the right cutouts. :p
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] couragedragon:
Absolutely not. I returned two cases because they weren't Verizon compatible. Neo Hybrid and Ultra Hybrid didn't align for me. (purchased last tuesday)

|> transmitted from deep inside a Verizon Note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Deiota37:
Neo hybrid for note 4

hello

for those who bought the neo hybrid case for note 4, how thin does it get with the case and how heavy does it get?

i bought the slim armor but it gets to fat and to heavy for my taste and im considering buying the neo hybrid to replace,

please comment ,

br

andrea
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] DreamerTKM:
For thickness. Overall it does add up about 3mm for every side of the phone and it does add up some weight though but still acceptable for me. It is a very subjective question so I think this is only way what I can help.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Woods97:
I have the spigen neo hybrid for my note 4 and as good as it looks and feels I have noticed that one of the silver bits on the back had become quiet scratched :/ but hay ho no one will see and during its life span the phone would of got scratched anyway.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Bbychaos:
I was going to do the update to NB1 on my ATT 1337 S4. I'm a little nervous about it, I won't lie I haven't heard many good things about it.

I digress.

My question is, is it possible to put the T-mobile firmware onto my ATT S4? My service is through T-mobile currently and I also read the 4.4.4 update is coming out for the T-mobile S4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] guut13:
No, You cannot flash the Odin tar for tmobile phones, but you can flash a tmobile based ROM. Check out post 2 here. (Any ROM listed will work for you) ... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2616221

Also, the steps for upgrading are in post 5.
[General Questions and Answers] BlueForce64:
Hello fellow XDA members,

I may be upgrading to my first smartphone without an SD card since the first moto droid came out. I have become very dependent on my SD cards, my current phone has a 64gb SD card which I am using a good portion of it.

My assumption is that about 95% of all people use their phone for their music device. I DO NOT stream. I would not have the data capacity for that. I put all of my 2000 songs on my SD card and throw on the shuffle or sift through and find what I like. I do this because I drive over 20-30 hours a week and steaming would easily crush my data for more important things and also I think it's pointless to not stream exactly the songs you want that at that moment.

I also have approximately 2000 pictures and growing. Which I would prefer to keep on my phone to reference when necessary or just look through for memories.

What to do If I upgrade to a new phone with only 32gb internal storage, leaving approximately 25gb of space left for stuff.

What do you people use? How do you deal with having limited storage but being a heavy user? I cannot legitimately think of anything without making sacrifices on how I use the phone meaning I'd have to remove many pictures and songs to have room for apps and other stuff, which obviously I don't want to do, and I can't burn through data.

Thank you so much guys! I appreciate any advice!
[General Questions and Answers] fangblade386:
You have Wi-Fi, don't you? Why don't you just backup all your photos on Google Drive? That could free up a decent bit of space off of your phone. As for music, I would recommend that you backup the songs you usually don't listen to on Drive as well. When you get home, you could backup your stuff, and you could retrieve whatever you need from Drive some time before you leave. I'm sure you've already thought of this, but just a suggestion in case you haven't. =P
[General Questions and Answers] BlueForce64:
Wow, totally didn't think of that honestly. I haven't actually tried Google drive yet, I guess it's time to give it a shot. Thank you, I'll try it
[General Questions and Answers] BlueForce64:
If anyone has any other suggestions that would be great!
[General Questions and Answers] CustomGames:
How i clean my device

Try rooting and uninstalling system apps(if there preloaded) Use cleaner master. It cleans alot. Mine cleaned 5gb in one month.

Try using basic cleaning. Apps that you dont use uninstall them as it took 3 gb of unused apps on my Phone

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Htc One M7 (CyanogenMod 11)(Xposed)(Rooted)

Acer 380 (No rom yet )(Xposed)(Rooted)

Nexus 7(AutoDroid 1.2)(Rooted)
[General Questions and Answers] BlueForce64:
Yeah I would definitely try to uninstall bloats are. And thanks, I can give that app a shot
[General Questions and Answers] Planterz:
A solution so obvious you might have overlooked it, just don't use your phone for a music player. Get a Sandisk Sansa Clip Zip (or Fuze) .mp3 player and stick a microSD card in there. I've been using a Clip Zip for a couple years now. Small, weighs practically nothing, has great sound (with some tweaks). Plays FLAC too. Or just use an old phone as a media player.
[General Questions and Answers] BlueForce64:
Oh yeah, i should of thought of that, makes sense. Haha. I do have Viper on my phone now as well for audio. Perhaps i'll look into that for options. Good idea, thanks
[General Questions and Answers] NOOK!E:
Definitely get root access and remove all unneccesary system applications first.

Then, let's say you download an app that "needs" a physical sdcard - what do you do then?

Well, if I'm not mistaken there are ways to mount a "virtual sdcard" by repartitioning the unallocated space/taking some space out of another partition to act like an external sdcard. This will fool the problematic apps into thinking you have a real sdcard in, and then they will work correctly.

This would be more toward the technical side of this question, but yeah.

:)
[General Questions and Answers] BlueForce64:
Hmmm interesting. I haven't looked into that but I'm pretty sure I'd have that capability. I'm pretty tech savvy. That's good info because I think I do play games that I think need an SD card but not sure.
[General Questions and Answers] NOOK!E:
Good - you would definitely need to be tech savvy to accomplish it! :D
[General Questions and Answers] citBabY:
I have a crazy idea that I personally use, who knows... Maybe you wanna be crazy like me :)

I do have two nandroid backups, and I keep switching between them. Each one is nearly considered another phone with its own apps xD

But I use this method mainly because I like modding my SM-G7102, so one backup is main, and another for testing new stuff and experiencing performance issues.

Good luck with your new phone.
[General Questions and Answers] BlueForce64:
Yeah that does sound pretty crazy haha. On my s4 I used to run 2 Roms, but I'm sick of this phone. It just doesn't do it for me. I miss my Motorola because of the amazing speakers and microphones they have, as well as the near vanilla android. I'm planning on moving to the moto x 2nd gen once its available for Verizon. It should be awesome. Maybe I'll do that to my moto x haha. Thanks lol
[General Questions and Answers] CustomGames:
No problem glad to help:good:
[General Questions and Answers] ShapesBlue:
I really think the idea of no SD card isn't necessarily a bad thing. As long as you have enough internal space. I have a 64gb SD card and I'm only using 18gb including 3 backups which total somewhere around 8gb.

I think about 25gb internal after rom and essentials should be more than enough. I only have 16gb of internal space of which 12gb is usable so I definitely think it's possible with 32gb

From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
[General Questions and Answers] BlueForce64:
I dont know, I have 2000 pictures and 2000 songs both of which grow on a somewhat regular basis. Right now I'm using 24gb of my 64gb SD card. I have no backups on mine. Its 100% songs/pictures with maybe a little app data. In order to use the new phone I will have to do what someone said and get a separate music player. There's pretty much no other way for the quantity I have.
[General Questions and Answers] ShapesBlue:
Yea songs tend to take up more room in general. I have 3gb of music and it's only a hair over 300 songs, and yea in your case a separate music player would be good

From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
[General Questions and Answers] dyczone:
There's several things that I did when I switched from SD -> Internal Storage.

First, most of the data I used was saved in the cloud. Google Photos backed up all my photos, music was streamed, etc. This allowed me to conserve a lot of space. Of course, if you don't have an unlimited data plan, then this isn't the best option.

Aside from that, there are apps that will help manage your internal storage. You essentially end up removing apps you don't need/use. This primarily includes games because they tend to be the largest apps.

For photos and videos, limit the amount that you store on your phone and use WiFi to fetch from the cloud as much as possible.

For music, same as above.

For media in general, if you want to go to super space efficient mode, save media in a compressed / lower quality format. For photos and videos this may mean low res. For music, change the bit rate of MP3s or don't use flac. Of course, this is if you can tolerate the loss in quality.

A potentially weird solution would be to archive (as zip, bzip, 7z, etc.) anything that you don't use.
[General Questions and Answers] NOOK!E:
Not weird at all - I discovered the usefulness (not a word?) of zipping up unneeded files as .zips, .bz2s and .rars about a half a year ago, and it's been a real lifesaver!

Do it, guys - it actually saves space!
[General Questions and Answers] ShapesBlue:
Might just try it myself, thanks for the suggestion :thumbup:

From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
[General Questions and Answers] BlueForce64:
Wow yeah that sounds like good ideas too guys. Thanks. I guess its rarely I have to look back into my pictures and getting a mp3 player would probably be the best combination.

Then I'll be able to play some games I enjoy and not have to worry about it too much.
[General Questions and Answers] jackfrost909:
You say you drive 20-30 hrs a week so I'm assuming you're in sales or smth similar. I assuming you need to have 2000 pictures w/ u at all times as a sales aid. While I haven't tried it myself, don't most/all new devices support USB to go? Get a small utg card reader and keep your sd card. Plug the reader into your USB port when you need access to the pictures or other stuff. I assume there are utg readers that will let you charge whole they're plugged in so could work for the music while driving too.

Just throwing it out there if you're willing to tinker a bit.
[General Questions and Answers] bushako:
When I had the Nexus 5 I'd use the Meenova microusb card reader. Its tiny, cheap and works perfectly well but did require rooted phone as the Nexus doesn't support OTG by default. I would suggest using that for your needs without compromising much.
[General Questions and Answers] alfsoft:
As for me, I came to solution of using my own cloud setup. Synology NAS with dual 4 Tb drives in RAID. Yes it cost me some money, but I think that's a nice solution. You need to spend money just once and there's no any monthly fee for this service. I use it to instantly upload photos and videos taken with my phone when I get home or any other place with Wi-Fi. I also use it to listen to my music collection.
[General Questions and Answers] BlueForce64:
Close, I'm a technician but actually now that I think about it 20-30 may be a little high but a regular week is probably at least 10. I like that idea though. Thank you

That's cool. Didn't know those existed. I don't mind rooting so I can probably give that a shot. Thank you

Another great idea, your own cloud. Pretty cool. I like it. Thank you
[General Questions and Answers] jackfrost909:
As above, it's USB on the go (OTG) that I was thinking of. And there definitely ARE cables that will charge while connected. Just read the caveats and have a charger with good output (at least 1A /1000mA).

I'll second the Synology for a personal cloud idea because I'm a user myself and I recommend and implement them for clients all the time but streaming from your own server or spotify's is still gonna eat your data plan so I didn't think it the solution for you.

Still, a great tool IMO so if you think it works for your use I'd say go for it.

GL