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[Nexus 4 General] macallik:
Big fan of the product as well. Was going to hold onto Vonage as my long distance calling app, but they recently hiked the prices of their international rates for the country I was interested in, so I deleted the app entirely.

One question/area of interest

The thread listed here states that data consumption for the user was approximately 1.6MB/hr, whereas in my experiences, I encounter data consumption of approx. 690KB/s (25 times greater). Being I don’t talk a lot on the phone anyways, those numbers are not worrisome in the slightest to me, but I am curious what the reason could be for the discrepancy.

One potential theory that I have is that my calls were long distance perhaps? Calls routed overseas to a non-Google Hangout # requires larger data packets perhaps?
[Nexus 4 General] trollarc:
1.6 MB/hr is unrealistic low (just can't compress the stream that much). I recommend using WiFi for hangouts unless you have an unlimited plan.

Justin
[Nexus 4 General] singlebyte:
It (google voice) is working fantastic for me! I could never get any of the other google voice apps from google or 3rd party vendors to work. Now it works awesome over my WiFi.
[Nexus 4 General] fortunz:
I made two calls over wifi totaling 9 minutes. Google settings measured hangouts data usage increasing by 2.8MB during those calls. FWIW. Twice I heard a slight momentary digitization of the other caller's voice lasting about a second each time.

I wonder if Google scales the audio quality based on the speed of your connection the way netflix/amazon automatically scales video quality. If you have a super fast connection, maybe they crank up quality. Maybe that digitization I heard wasn't a general issue, but a glitch while audio was readjusting bitrate, the way a video might fuzz for a second in between adjustments.
[Nexus 4 General] macallik:
Now that I think about it, that is a feature of Google Hangout Video calls. You have to be in a call to be able to tweak the settings, but you have the option to alter the rate of data consumption through various tiers of video quality. It wouldn't be too far fetched to have something similar in the phone app related to voice I suppose.

Not too sure if that would explain my personal data consumption though. I was using a WiMax Router through FreedomPop which is 4G but it is no Google Fiber.
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
T-mo $30 plan + Nexus 4 + Hangouts + 4G LTE = bliss!
[Nexus 4 General] ogrillion:
Just trying to see if its rom/kernel related or just a intitial kink with a new product.

But when I receive an incoming call to hangouts - after hitting accept I am experiencing a 3-5 second delay before I can actually talk or hear the other person.

Anyone else experiencing this?
[Nexus 4 General] macallik:
I've experienced a lag/freeze when I answer incoming calls as well. If I don't get it on like the first or second ring then the caller goes to voicemail as I wait for the lag to disappear. Hopefully it is something they fix in the future. Not a huge deal since I can still call people back for free with great quality.
[Nexus 4 General] ogrillion:
Oh ok thanks for the response - definitely not a deal breaker.. The call quality is great, I even had a conversation driving down the road doing 50.., was impressed.
[Nexus 4 General] fortunz:
I haven't taken an incoming call with it yet, but that sounds like the sort of issue that Google could and would likely address. You might look around for a bug report you can upvote. Or reviews of the app highlighting the issue.

Just as an update, today I called out again over the same wifi with a similar signal for 6 minutes and used 4.7MB. Whatever the cause (I'm not sure either), the data usage is highly variable. I wish we could at least cap it. Even with some paygo data, this could be cheaper than some paygo minutes... or not, depending on whether you're getting 0.3MB/min (2-3c/min at 7 to 10 cents per MB, typical mvno paygo data), 0.8MB/min (6-8c/min) or 40MB/min ($2.80-$4.00/min) :eek: like macallik reported.

This is certainly fine for either supplemental wifi use to slice down a bill a bit, or for use with generous data buckets like the much celebrated tmo package, but without the ability to control or cap the data rate, it's still a bit limited. With just that one tweak, I could see using it as a dedicated second line through hangouts, and even on a paygo account, you could save even when you weren't on wifi, and far moreso over wifi. It'd be like having a dual sim phone, but cheaper and with less account management hassle.
[Nexus 4 General] macallik:
Just thought about it. Did you/do you have call screening on when you used Google Voice previously? (Where you have to press '1' to answer an incoming call) That could be leading to the freezing as Hangouts attempts to get a button prompt from a feature that is no longer being used. I just disabled my call screening on the Google Voice website but haven't gotten any recent incoming calls to test my theory.
[Nexus 4 General] ferrocene:
Oh man I never knew that was a feature. What a pain in the ass, I've been living with it for a long time now...

As someone who has their number ported to gvoice, this is a great change. but, my phone rings twice, at the same time with two different ring tones by two dialers. It's confusing and annoying because each dialer tried to override the screen of the other one to get your attention.
[Nexus 4 General] macallik:
That is also something you can change in the settings @ the Google voice website. Change the call forwarding portion. Mines is set to 'none' with no boxes checked but you might need to play around with it a bit (that's what she said)
[Nexus 4 General] gewecht:
Because my plan doesn't dock me for incoming calls I let the forwarding come in through the old mobile voice network. But outgoing calls are routed through my Hangouts dialer.
[Nexus 4 General] prog19:
I' ve used here in brazil for the first time, over wifi, calling other state to a house number and the result was 15 minutes of calling and 10,43 mb used by hangouts.

An average 695 kbs/min. I think its not bad at all.

UPDATE:

Today i've called the same number and the conversation went for 37 minutes, using 25,71 mb of wifi data.

The average was 695 kb/min again , this means that an 0,1 Mbits/s conection should be good to make the call without hiccups. So even here in brazil with our poor 1 Mbits/s 3g we can use this service for good, thus saving a lot of money.
[Nexus 4 General] Almayce:
Hey guys, I had just purchased some credit to try hangouts in germany I have one slight problem though. My ID is hidden when calling someone, I have confirmed my number in the app itself, anything else to do?
[Ascend Mate 7 General] freefrank:
got my man ordered this beautiful piece from China, hope it can work on Canada Bell LTE xD

shoulda arrive in a week or 2

will report back and maybe post an openbox if not any.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] sanjsrik:
How did you order it? Meaning, what was the site you used to order from China? Which model did you order?
[Ascend Mate 7 General] rekamyenom:
http://www.vmall.com/product/1372.html
[Ascend Mate 7 General] sanjsrik:
Thanks, I think I'll wait until January. they're already sold out on the first shipment. Maybe it'll be available more widely after the new year.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] netcooler:
Hey guys I just got one yesterday. Pretty satisfy so far. This phone is FAST!

One issue though, I cannot get Google contact to sync. Anyone can give me some pointers?

If you have any questions about this phone, please let me know and I will try to answer them for you :)
[Ascend Mate 7 General] Sammath:
I know Benchmarks don't say much but how does the device compare to let's say a note 3 (which I got now) and what does emui 3.0 feel like? Is it just like MIUI or looks like that but the experience is different? Just asking becouse miui is very fluent in usage. Thanks in advance.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] sanjsrik:
Questions...

* How does it feel? Does it feel natural at 6.1" in your hands?

* is it heavy? How does it compare to the Note 3 or other comparably-sized device?

* Does it fit in your pocket easily enough?

* Does it work well-enough with EMUI 3.0 with one-handed operations?

* I know you only just got it, but could you report back in a few days after continuous use about how the battery fares?

* Are you going to try it with a few games to see how the processor performs?

* Did you do any download/upload speed tests?

* Where are you located and were you able to activate it with no issues on your network?

* Was the device difficult to set up?

* How is the charging? Does it take a long time? This is something that hopefully you'll report back about in a few days after charging the device a few times.

In terms of your Google contacts sync issue, what exactly is the issue? You need to give more information about what is "not working" before we can offer some help. The first suggestion I'd have is to delete the google account you created on the device and recreate it.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] freefrank:
For the google sync, try go to Huawei's app market and download the google apps and you are good to go ;)
[Ascend Mate 7 General] freefrank:
I used OPPO N1 and Note3 last year, the weight is note3< mate7<N1, it's not bad. But holding it while laying face up is kinda hard xD hands get shot easily.

Yeah it fit my Levi's pocket pretty good.

One hand operation is okay in EMUI, if you have the xposed mod fly android installed it will be way better.

Games work fine as the GPU is pretty mainstream.

The phone I got is the CMCC version. Only works on TD LTE network in China but can be used on FDD LTE or any other 3G/4G in other country. I think if I can flash the China Unicom version's modem it could work on FDD in China to as the hardware support it. I'm planning using it in Canada on Bell. Will test it out on 22nd when I get back.

Set up? What you mean by set up?

Charging takes around 3 hours from nearly dead battery (10%-ish) to 100%. With my four ports universal charger it takes longer, maybe 5 hours but I'm not sure cuz I was sleeping :)
[Ascend Mate 7 General] freefrank:
And the phone feels good, really good in hands. It feels very solid and slate. And didn't feel too huge like the OPPO N1 which is also 6 inch.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] netcooler:
Haha thx freefrank for answering them for me. The phone itself is pretty light, feels much lighter than the Mate 2.

Well under my Google account, I see sync for everything, such as app data, calendar, email and even people. But I don't see contact there. I tried to look into the Huawei store but no luck. Freefrank are you able to get contact sync? if so did you need to do anything special? Please let me know. Is there a googlecontactsync.apk I need to install?
[Ascend Mate 7 General] sanjsrik:
Is there a built-in contacts app that would work? Can you use one that comes with the device to sync your google contacts?
[Ascend Mate 7 General] shinji21:
I am going to China next month and would like to pick this up. So the CMCC version is the one I should get if I want to use with US At&t? Does CMCC offer the white color? And is it unlocked? Thanks.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] sanjsrik:
45 days wait time 3-5 days shipping using DHL from China

I found a Chinese retailer that ships to the US, the price including shipping using DHL wasn't actually bad, total shipping time was 3-5 days. Actual "wait" time was 45 days. I'm guessing they're taking pre-orders.

From everything I've read so far, this isn't due to be released until Q3 which is the only date I've seen from a lot of the press and Huawei. Does anyone have when these will be sold or at least available to be sold?

I think I'll wait until January to see if I can get a device for myself. By then software and hardware and possibly sourcing issues should be a little better.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] freefrank:
both CMCC and Unicom version works fine on ATT. its unlocked. gold is the only color they offer atm.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] freefrank:
yea i didnt find contact sync neither after serval trying. maybe huawei blocked it for some stupid reason or its a bug
[Ascend Mate 7 General] sanjsrik:
Are you sure? All the reviews I've been reading say that the gold version is for the 32Gb version only and that the 16 comes in multiple colors. I'm not doubting you, but the Chinese retailer was only offering the gold in 32Gb. Maybe that was why it was delayed 45 days?
[Ascend Mate 7 General] netcooler:
The only color available for the 32GB model is gold, while the 16 GB model comes in black or silver. I must add that it is in VERY limited supply right now, even the official stores don't have any yet until October at the earliest. For those that do have then in stock, only the 32GB version seems to be in stock.

When I was there I saw 4 people bought one while I was testing my unit, and before I left the store they already out of stock and had to turn people away.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] sanjsrik:
I sent you a PM but maybe you didn't see it. If you're willing, would you be able to pick up more than one? i'd pay you for the unit.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] netcooler:
I don't have any PM in my inbox, May be I am not senior enough to receive them? I would be more than happy to pick up a couple of units for you. Let me know how you would like to arrange this. Keep in mind they are in VERY tight supply so I am not sure I can find them at the moment.......
[Ascend Mate 7 General] ikkifcporto:
what version that the band 800mhz lte
[Ascend Mate 7 General] freefrank:
Mate 7:：LTE FDD Band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28(Aphase)
[Ascend Mate 7 General] freefrank:
ill be back to canada at 22nd. i can bring you one.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] freefrank:
i got the contact sync work for no reason xD
[Ascend Mate 7 General] gn0s1s:
Mainland ROM + a couple other questions

I am in China at the moment, and on TaoBao there are several for sale, much cheaper than Vmall as well, 32GB gold edition MT7-TL10. I will grab the unicom most likely but want to ask:

what the difference is between the mainland rom, and the hongkong/taiwan/macau ... is that the international version. And is the only real rom difference that it is bundled with google apps?

Just wanting to know as I want to follow the one with the best update cycle, I m on Bell too, (virgin) so i d like it to work.

Also does Towel Root do its magic in terms of rooting. I have several apps that require root, and would like a simple transition from my note 3 with titanium. As well if I titanium, and add in the google apps, like market etc... are there other apk's i need to add?

I have never dealt with a chinese rom before, aside my k900, i usually just flash custom roms on most i get, but emui looks pretty cool, with the theme choosing etc, wanna give it a whirl.

Thanks in advance.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] freefrank:
from what i know, the hardware are basically the same on every version, huawei blocked some FDD channel on the Chinese versions for CMCC and Unicom. When using the phone on other carriers, the restriction will be removed.

The rom comes with Google service framework, all you need to do is download Gmail, Google Market, etc. from huawei's app market, which is in Chinese, and you will have the full gapps.

Towel Root is not working, the kernel version on my phone is 3.10.30 which had the exploit patched up I believe. But I heard some ppl got the phone with lower kernel version that can be rooted with towelroot.

EMUI, imo, is not that good, compare to MIUI, or OPPO's ColorOS. I will definitely flash CM or AOSP when they come out.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] gn0s1s:
Thanks for the update. The root issue is a no go for now, as i depend on it for a bunch of daily apps i use. I'll have to see if i can pop down to a store and play with emui then, on reviews looks alright. Hands on i guess. How are you finding the battery life? Think it would be a noticeable improvement over a note 3. I basically want to run phone with everything on, and live wallpapers guilt free and get a day of heavy usage out of it. I am much more conservative on my note as it is a business device for me before it is entertainment.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] maly3648:
hi frank

Are yousure about what you said ? I mean are you sure the chinese version will get LTE "unlocked" on other carriers not using band 1 and 3 ? Huawei is not providing any information about this, do you know someone having tried the chinese version on a carrier using other LTE bands than 1 or 3 ?
[Ascend Mate 7 General] gn0s1s:
" I made sure to ask a Huawei representative if we'd see various regional models offering various connectivity options, and to my delight this time we have full use of the Balong category 6 LTE modem provided in the SoC as the device offers full RF and antenna support for both FDD and TDD on the global model. Only variations will be select Chinese models which need to support a wider range of TDD bands to take advantage of their national carrier's networks. This is all backed by two redundant antennas on the top and bottom of the device. Apparently the device is able to switch between them as the main connectivity antenna if the attenuation on either gets too high due to external influences like gripping or holding the device. Huawei reports a 40% reduction in call drops and a 15dB gain in signal strength." from www.anandtech.com/show/8488/huawei-ascend-mate-7-handson

From the sounds of it, global version no problem, but the local chinese version.. More tdd support. This is odd because i have emailed a retailer at liaow and he has stated that the mt7-tl10 aka the gold version have the same firmware on hk and mainland. The difference being if you buy a mainland and use a unicom or mobile or telecom sim, it will be locked to their provider, but an international sim should work on all bands. Still a bit dicey.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] sanjsrik:
Is everything here relating to Chinese-compatible devices or is it related to worlwide compatibility as well? Sorry, you had me lost with all the tech talk in there about frequencies and such.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] gn0s1s:
That is what we are trying to discern. Journalists handed the 2gb silver version while in Germany have had no issues reported with connectivity as far as I can see. Is that different from the chinese version. The retailers i have contacted say for the gold version the mt7 tl10 version model is the same for both hk and mainland markets. It is the only version for sale right now if you want the 3gb 32gb internal memory. So this is what we are trying to figure out... Does the limited lte apply to the gold version available. I'm thinking probably not, especially from the sim comment made earlier in the thread. He will test i think on the 22nd of September. But this is what we are trying to figure out as we have yes and no answers.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] maly3648:
Hi,

Thanks for updating if you have tested the 32GB version LTE bands in countries where they re supposed not to be supported by the chinese version ...
[Ascend Mate 7 General] freefrank:
I'm back to Vancouver sitting in the airplane waiting, and i have 3G and hspa+. Not sure about LTE but will report back soon.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] Techngro:
Finally. Thank you. We're all waiting with excitement.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] freefrank:
Okay, i confirmed that the CMCC version doesn't have the FDD LTE band required on Bell. Which means only HSPA+ in North America. But i will have my friend bring me another version of Mate 7 in 2 weeks xD.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] gn0s1s:
To clarify, is it the mt7 tl10 version? And if so what is the alternate version? Also is that true for both sim slots? Thanks for the update, I'll be using the same network when i get back.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] maly3648:
Thanks Freefrank, let us now wait to see if this other version will work in Canada and on other bands. Now the question we should know is if this LTE issue is a firmware/software limitation or a hardware one. Maybe we could port the ROM from the 2GB/16gb version to make it work if it a software issue later on ?
[Ascend Mate 7 General] gn0s1s:
Did some digging... found a list of the CMCC radio's supported.

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=6738&c=huawei_ascend_mate_7_td-lte_mt7-tl10

Looks like it only supports TD band 7,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks

And on bell, we need band 4, 7, 12,17 but on the FDD spectrum.. so we re out of luck for LTE. Only asian carriers look to support Band 1 LTE at 2100mhz. So we will have to wait for an international version.

Does anyone have the model number for that device?

EDIT::cyclops:

Here is why it worked in germany : http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile-phones/tech-specs/ascend-mate7.htm

Looks to be only the 2gb model though... :/

This is the other version floating around

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=6737&view=1&c=huawei_ascend_mate_7_td-lte_mt7-tl00

Model number mt7-tl00 has FDD band 3 the 1800mhz spectrum which is used also quite frequently in asia... and also in europe. So it was probably this model number that they recieved...although this shows it has 3GB of ram as well, even though colour is black...

So not sure if we can count on this pdadb for accuracy.. but it would explain the situation.

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Might have to go for this model and forgo NA LTE if they don't make a 3gb / 32gb dual sim version.... With the terrible data plans in canada being stuck at 21-42mbit haha is not too bad.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] Techngro:
Can you do some speed tests and let us know what you're getting? I would be willing to deal with HSPA+ if it works on T-Mobile's network down here that gives my 15-20 Mbps down. That's more than enough for me for what I use my phone for.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] sanjsrik:
Why not just wait?

Why not just wait until the US-compatible version is released? It would probably be in a few months. How immediate is the need?

I'm waiting on the T-Mobile (US-compatible) version as well and figure if I can't get it on the T-Mobile version, I won't be happy with the networks I can get on any way.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] destardi001:
Ordered mine yesterday (Monday)

I ordered mine from EBAY; there were 5 for sale, 2 are left in just a day. I probably overpaid a bit for it...but the heart wants what the heart wants.

I'll post back in a few days once I have it in my possession. I'm posting from the MidWest.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] dimex:
Ya and the heart can be stupid too, like overpaying for a device that's going to prevent you from getting full network speeds on any US carrier just because it couldn't wait a little bit :p
[Ascend Mate 7 General] destardi001:
Haha...

This may be true....but honestly, I've had only HSPA+ speeds on my Sony Z Ultra and used it at the same time as a relative who has LTE on AT&T and while they had issues accessing data at any given time, my Sony plowed right on through and pulled sites up without issues. I'm more than happy with HSPA+ speeds without a doubt. Couldn't notice any differences except for being slower to access the network before loading. I'm ok with spending a little more to have 'cutting edge' now, instead of...well, no one knows at this point.
[Ascend Mate 7 General] Techngro:
Would you mind pointing us to the seller? Was it someone you had bought from before?
[Ascend Mate 7 General] destardi001:
Seller - nanatom847

Hi - sure - nanatom847 is the seller

There were 5 on Monday and now he's left with 1. Um - Never bought from this person before. I sent 2 emails and he did respond, but briefly. He was supposed to mail them out today but I have yet to receive a shipping notice. I'm nervous because I don't buy from EBAY usually due to a previously bad experience. I will be prompt in filing a case against him with EBAY for a refund as that's a lot of money to be given out without the product.

I will post back once to report my full experience as well as my experience using the phone.

Thanks
[Ascend Mate 7 General] Sammath:
I don't know if this has been asked before but does this device have an notification led?