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[Windows 8 General] roy8846:
Receive my F version Monday or Tuesday :)

Will post some benchmarks once set up.

Wish I knew if I need to update anything, crossing my fingers all is well
[Windows 8 General] roy8846:
My tablet showed up today via DHL.

F version, I'm very impressed. No problems at all. Very fast. Runs Minecraft ok, will try CoD etc soon.

Benchmarks to come :)
[Windows 8 General] tokarool:
There is any profits to reinstall system to 64bit operating system? becouse procesor is x64 but system 32bit:/
[Windows 8 General] roy8846:
Is it possible to sideload apps on 8.1?

I know phones can be developer unlocked.
[Windows 8 General] themagi:
[MENTION=349326]roy8846[/MENTION] - it's just Windows. Install whatever you want.
[Windows 8 General] roy8846:
So I can install say a paid windows store game or a xapp?

Do normal windows apps allow to be pinned in metro?
[Windows 8 General] themagi:
1. Don't see any reason why not.

2. Yep. I have Adobe Photoshop cs2 installed and pinned to the metro desktop
[Windows 8 General] nips:
Received mine today as well!

So far so good...... display colour was a bit off, so calibrated with following and looks much better!

Display Settings: Stock

Color > Basic:

Brightness: 15

Contrast: 48

Gamma: 0.7

Color > Advanced:

Hue: 0

Saturation: 52
[Windows 8 General] yvodelaere:
I will receive my tablet this week, can't wait to try it out!
[Windows 8 General] roy8846:
Deffo needed more saturation
[Windows 8 General] paul89rulez:
Me too :)
[Windows 8 General] GoodDayToDie:
Read the forum rules. Then shape up or GTFO. This is a developer community; many of us have published apps to the store. Piracy or discussion thereof is strictly forbidden. I consider you an <REDACTED> for even asking.

Oh, and no, Windows (as opposed to Windows Phone) does not support XAP files.
[Windows 8 General] ebsbow:
dont be so rude, GoodDayToDie. Tel the nooby the rules, nothing else.
[Windows 8 General] paul89rulez:
recieved my Voyo. Ordered the D version, but i m with F version -___-

Anyway, there is a big power consuption in standby, and when connected to charger i have ghost touches.
[Windows 8 General] nips:
Same!!! Even though I got multiple people to check and confirm I was ordering the D!

It even had a £13 higher price then the actual F version.... Pretty annoying, not sure it's worth the hassle of sending back etc.... On a side note I have no issues using it plugged in.
[Windows 8 General] mirchichamu:
Where did you buy from? I am not happy with the quality issues of voyo. That's why I ordered onda this time.
[Windows 8 General] oile:
The ghost touches are ripple effects caused by lacking ground on the charger. Use a grounded plug adapter and that is magically avoided.

Regarding big power consumption, check if it is the powering meter "jumps" problem: battery percentage fluctuating because of a bad voltage regulator chip.

Check powercfg sleepstudy after a long sleep session (at least 40 minutes) wich tell you the top battery offenders.

Disable sound before sleeping as the audio device remain active otherwise (all baytrail problem)

About the F version, it's not fair to pay for a different thing but in facts I have also a vido w8c F and practically can't tell the difference
[Windows 8 General] roy8846:
WTF. Did I even mention warez of any kind?

What if I purchased a specific version of an app and to have a backup?

I read in a fair few places GTA San Andreas works on specific phones only, yet I can purchase in the store still, maybe I wanted to test first?.

I have been here long enough to know the rules, ebsbow why am I a "noob"??

Oh and I also have ghost touches whilst charging, my charger is 5V 2A, a 9V one should fix it?

PCMark8 score of 1116 (Home Conventional Benchmark)

Heres a comparison score from a http://www.megamamute.com.br/Produt...-11,6-Touchscreen-Windows-8-1-11T540-LG-74424

Here http://www.3dmark.com/pcm8hme/33731
[Windows 8 General] nips:
I got it from Banggood, customer service was pretty good before the delivery and they answered all queries pretty promptly, up until the last mail! ....so far silence!

Build quality on the Voyo side is so so, I was worried about getting dead pixels and requested they check before posting. No dead pixels thankfully but a nice speck of dust or what looks like hair stuck between the screen. Perfect! :-/
[Windows 8 General] roy8846:
Maybe hair is between screen protector and screen?
[Windows 8 General] nips:
Doh! ..... In all the rush and excitement I didn't even realise there was one on there! .... That would explain why the touchscreen felt "grippy" and not smooth!

I will look at taking it off later and hopefully the dust......Thanks
[Windows 8 General] ebsbow:
Bangood sells bulk without boxes. Kinda stupid. Diminishes resale value and they ask premium price. Bangood only as last resort..

roy8846: your benchmark states Z3740D. you have an Voyo F, right? Don't try an 9v charger on an 5v device. Just saying ;)
[Windows 8 General] roy8846:
It is a 3735f wtf lol.

Deffo an F I have.

Will see what back of tab says regards voltage. Maybe I need to update bios?

Got mine from Aliexpress, with leather case 92 Gbp delivered. I reckon alot of sellers saying D are flat out wrong.

Most places seem to sell the F version now.
[Windows 8 General] paul89rulez:
I buyed another charger, and touch is fixed. For the F version i m a bit disappointed, but i dont think that will be much difference (i m not a tablet gamer lol).

Regarding power consumpiont, i disabled autosleep (tx to esbow) and now i have 2% to hour with wifi on.

Anyway, its a good tablet, its a little heavy, but its ok.

I will try to mod it with a chopper plate in the back and some mx4 thoothpast to have better heat dissipation (thit that on my mi2s and it worked magnificently)
[Windows 8 General] nips:
Yea in hindsight I should have stuck with Aliexpress (£83 lowest price) but was not sure how reliable they would be, because as far as i could figure out, it looked a lot like Amazon Marketplace.

Banggood seemed to have good reviews and with an European warehouse looked reliable.
[Windows 8 General] GoodDayToDie:
I'm sorry, maybe in your culture somebody asking (absent any other context or explanation) for the ability to sideload paid apps is not completely obviously about warez, but I nonetheless stand by my opinion that, in this context, it was and is the obvious explanation for why you'd ask that. The store lets you re-install apps if you already paid for them under your account, so under conventional use cases there's no need for a backup. I'll grant that in some unconventional scenarios there's a legit reason to want to reinstall a specific app version that may no longer be available, but if that was honestly what you were after I sincerely doubt you would have phrased your question "I can install say a paid windows store game or a xapp?" Nothing in there about backups, nothing that implies you had already purchased the app, and nothing that indicates you were planning to either (as though that makes it OK).

As for GTA San Andreas, there are a few relevant facts to mention first: this subforum is not about phones; Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 are quite different OSes; and Windows 8 can't run Windows Phone apps (as a trivial web search would have told you). Now, with that said, if an app publisher doesn't make a trial available that doesn't mean it's morally acceptable to just take it without paying. It would benefit their potential customers to provide a trial, but that doesn't entitle you to pirate the game; the option of *not* being a customer at all is still there (and is my response to such a scenario).
[Windows 8 General] ebsbow:
Before you setup your devices I would recomment you reset your tablet..

In my case it solved some problems. Just a suggestion.

If anyone bought an D but gotten an F, then please post the seller so we know what to look for.
[Windows 8 General] roy8846:
I bought an F, seller posted quickly and it arrived boxed with screen protector (and case I paid extra for)

$132 delivered for the F version (DHL isnt to much more either)

PM Me if you cant find the seller. (Jeez this thread is not good for me, worst moaning at me in 8 years of being here. Im out. Peace)

Got a year of Office 365 as well :)
[Windows 8 General] Buggster:
That's nice, but I think ebsbow asked to post those bad seller that sold you something you didn't order. Not to post advertisement. Please remove the link and let interested pm you if they want to know.
[Windows 8 General] nips:
As previously stated avoid Banggood.com! Was promised a D after consulting 3 different pre-sales support staff.

Will update if I hear anything back.
[Windows 8 General] paul89rulez:
efox F for D. I ve requested D version, as post sayed.

Btw, this is fantastic!
[Windows 8 General] ebsbow:
Don't worry about it to much. You just gotten into an bad zone, back up alLittle and you'l be just fine again. ?
[Windows 8 General] paul89rulez:
After initial bad impressions, i have good opinion now for this little pc. Its a bit ugly (not nice as dell venue 8 pro), but is fast enough and its cheap. The most important feature is the Hdmi, and the recarge from the A\C and not from the usb. Overall build quality is accettable, and the screen is good (not bad, not impressive). I was able to play to Nfs Undeground 2 at max settings at 800*600 resolutions with xbox360 controller. I will try other games, like Oblivion, AoE ,EE2, Trine etc.

Excellent Price\Performance ratio!
[Windows 8 General] ferdyfist:
Yes please benchmark a lot of games! :)
[Windows 8 General] oile:
Numb question time:

It would be possible to install the 64 bit version of windows 8.1 on this tablet (given that we can find all the drivers) or are we stricted by 32 bit by UEFI?
[Windows 8 General] nips:
*UPDATE*

Kudos to Banggood, they offered me a partial refund to make up the difference between the price of the D and F.

So £13 back in the pocket and the money gets me the Xiaomi MiBand!

Bizarrely though the SKU i bought is now priced at a mouthwatering £156!!! ... go figure?!
[Windows 8 General] xxLeoxx93:
You can buy the F Version from Ebay-Germany for 130€ and it's shipped from belgium - so no taxes to pay in Europe!

And:

Don't play around with the bios settings. I did it, and now it's completly broken because you can't reset the bios if your tablet doesn't boot!

If anyone knows how to reset it, or which chip I've to replace, then please tell me. I've really tried anything - but without success.

[MENTION=4178384]oile[/MENTION]

64Bit version would be too much for this tablet. The installasation will take more space and windows and apps will take mor ram.

There is no reaseon to upgrade to 64 Bit.

But if you really want to do so, all the drivers will be available - they only use very common componets - windows will find the required drivers easily.
[Windows 8 General] paul89rulez:
how about linux?
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
Got mine yesterday. Everything works smooth except for two issues:

1. hdmi sound passthrough (bitstreaming) of ac3 and dts to my samsung tv doesn't work. The samsung hdmi audio playback device properties show 2 speaker channels. My AVR is connected to the tv with an optical tos cable and I only get stereo pcm sound.

2. on an external display connected with hdmi the 1080p or 1080i picture size does not fit the screen. Its slightly too big both horizontally and vertically.

EDIT: problem 2. solved: set "screen fit" on tv

With my Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 8 I have exactly the same problems. With my Android gear both passthrough and full hd picture are fine.

Leo: you are right that 64-bit windows does not make much sense. However, if you intend to dual-boot 64-bit ubuntu or android kitkat a 64-bit efi bios is required which in turn can only boot 64-bit windows.
[Windows 8 General] StridAst:
you try F7 to enter bios when you start to boot? windows is not the only way to enter. I could be wrong on the f7 key. I have a pipo w2 so very close, but not quite the same hardware. you might need f8, f6, f5, f4 f3, f2 etc. instead.

holding the power button on the tablet down for 15 seconds or so might be needed to truely power it off before trying to boot as well.

[MENTION=2497001]paul89rulez[/MENTION] linux is possible on these tablets. but not having a voyo one, I cant give you an exact guide. you are welcome to experiment with my guide for the pipo w2 though. it should mostly work for getting the voyo a1 mini working. see here:

http://xdaforums.com/windows-8-rt/general/dual-booting-ubuntu-windows-8-1-pipo-w2-t2926413

[MENTION=487710]jockyw2001[/MENTION] It is possible to install 64 bit ubuntu on a 32 bit uefi. workarounds no more of a pain to do than getting 32 bit uefi to boot ubuntu. I've done this on my pipo w2. I do however, seem to see more failed boots on 64 bit than 32 bit, but that might just be my imagination or just random luck. (main reason I'm using 32 bit right now instead of 64 bit)
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
That's great to know. Do you know if the 64-bit android kitkat kernel can also boot on 32-bit uefi?

And thanks for the guide, I will give it a try, even though ubuntu runs quite smooth in vmware ws.
[Windows 8 General] StridAst:
dont know on android. I've only been experimenting with ubuntu. to get a 64 bit ubuntu image to work, instead of unzipping the unpackit.tar file I listed in that guide, just copy this file here to the /efi/boot/ directory on the usb drive you use for your image

https://github.com/jfwells/linux-asus-t100ta/blob/master/boot/bootia32.efi

and one of the last lines with fixing grub needs to be:

sudo cp grub/grubia32.efi ubuntu/grubx64.efi

instead of sudo cp grub/grubia32.efi ubuntu/grubia32.efi
[Windows 8 General] xxLeoxx93:
I tried almost everything, but the screen remains completly black, not even the post screen shows up. I ordered a tool to reprogram the bios chip - I hope it works.

You can really mess up the bios, if you don't know what you are doing - so be carefull!
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
which bios options did you touch?
[Windows 8 General] xxLeoxx93:
"LPC Pins PNP Settings" to "enabled".

But there are several other settings that can kill your tablet, like disableing your graphics-chip or usb-port.
[Windows 8 General] paul89rulez:
Did that on my voyo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7nYB9rm03A

(a kind of).

Now with intel burn + recharge, i have max 55° (so no thermar trhottling, as far i know, it will start at 60°). With this mod, i think that we can achieve better performance, at cost of a little weight.

Anyway, with my heavy use ( using it like only device, because my phone is broken), with this tab i was able to achieve 5h screen on with 8hours uptime, and this is very good! Better than Lg Gpad.
[Windows 8 General] oile:
What metal plate did you use? Do the F version have battery percentage jumps?
[Windows 8 General] xxLeoxx93:
My F Version didn't have any battary-percentage jumps, but the D version from my fiancee...
[Windows 8 General] paul89rulez:
I ve used a copper plate heavyer than the video one. No, i don't have battery percentage jumps :)
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
Could any of you who owns an AVR with hdmi input, connect your Voyo to it and check if dolby digital 5.1 and dts are supported?

To check that go into control panel - sound, select the corresponding AVR device and then check the properties. You need a micro HDMI cable to connect the voyo to the AVR.

Thanks in advance!
[Windows 8 General] ebsbow:
Updated drivers

Audio_6.2.9600.4181(Realtek I2S update)

Battery Management

Camera

Power Management IC Device

@jockyw2001: sorry no AVR info
[Windows 8 General] nips:
I believe to get pass-through working on Intel you need to have the Intel Management Engine Interface driver installed. I'm not sure if there is version for Baytrail tablets but have seen them for the NUC's.

I'll have a dig around and let you know if i find anything.
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
Yeah I saw someone writing that somewhere. Another guy with a z3740 based tablet got passthrough to work after a bios and driver update:

http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/08/28/zotac-zbox-pi320-is-a-pocket-sized-intel-bay-trail-t-mini-pc/

(scroll all the way down)

Keep digging, much appreciated!
[Windows 8 General] hanek2k:
Bios problem Voyo A1, need rom

Hi,

I bought Voyo A1 mini, and i can't use keyboard and touch in bios.

Keyboard only works when windows starts. This will be probaly problem with USB support which will disable in bios.

I need BIOS to that tablet

I will upgrade it using AMI tool - AFUWINGUI.

Information about my bios read from AFUWINGUI:

Core Version: 05.06

Project Version: 00.08

Firmware ID: 3BAIR008

Can some one read bios and save it for me?

Voyo support don't won to help me, they say i must send tablet to them.. :(

Bellow i prepared manual how to to do bios backup from windows, its 100% safe and take 5 minutes.

1. Run VOYO tablet and log on to Windows

2. Connect to WiFi network on tablet (If you don't have acces to Wifi network do steps 2-4 on another computer,copy folder afuwin32 to tablet and go to step 4)

2. download package from link: micropc.pl/afuwin32.zip

3. Extract that archive on tablet (Right mouse button on file, and extract)

4. Go to extracted folder afuwin32

5. Run afuwingui.exe

6. Please note info about bios version - Core Version, Project Version, Firmware ID, you can do print screen, and send it as image.

7 Select save option

6. Save file (default name file to create will be afuwin.rom and that is OK, confirm that), and send it to me

That's all

Thanks
[Windows 8 General] nips:
Done!
[Windows 8 General] hanek2k:
Thanks. Yours bios image resolved my problem... with keyboard - its works on bios, but now dont works touch on tablet...

Any ideas how to resolve thaht new problem

Edit:

I restore defaults setting in bios where i can finaly thanks to you go in, and everything start working.:)
[Windows 8 General] ebsbow:
As far as I can tell, there is support for two channels max 24b/48khz over hdmi.

But it slows the device down when running a movie on a monitor.

Max 16bit through the jack though. Same as my z3740, which doesn't have hdmi.

An cheap external usb soundcard can fix that I guess. So far, movies with dts or bitstreaming seem to work with intel audio. That's my 5 cent.
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
I have tried movies with ac3 (dd5.1) and dts soundtracks using passthrough with different versions of xbmc (now called kodi): no go, dead silence. Will try to get hold of a Intel Management Engine Interface driver.
[Windows 8 General] ebsbow:
Running a movie on hdmi with ac3 on 1080p monitor using bitstream audio.

Maybe installing an codex pack might help in your case. Just guessing.
[Windows 8 General] ebsbow:
Colors are shish, I know ?
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
Is this ac3 bitstream actually decoded by your 1080p monitor or by an AVR? And did you configure passthrough in xbmc? I have no problems to hear the down converted stereo sound from movies with dd5.1 or dts audio tracks.

Could you make a screenshot of the properties of your 1080p monitor playback device (control panel - sound)
[Windows 8 General] Downstar:
Stuck at updating

Hi guys,

Yesterday i received my Voyo A1 mini (F version) from gearbest.

Played something with it, and it seems to work pretty well for such a cheap device.

Last night with shutting down the tablet it got some windows updates (8 if i'm right..)

So i left the a1 mini on charger getting the updates.

Today i powered the tablet back one and it was going to the 'Upgradiding your system' before start windows 8.1.

It went fluently till i reached 6%.. Now its on 6% for like 1,5-2 hours already..

What can i do? jus wait a few hours longer?

It take alot of time, so i dont think it wont get any further..

The indicator is still moving..
[Windows 8 General] ebsbow:
As I posted before, there are two channels available on Intel audio for HDMI.

The bitstream is past by the media player(if detected and supported) on the device. Nothing is done on the monitor. There's is only an audio jack that connects to a speaker/avr. If your avr supports bitstream then I guess it will detect the correct audio contents and split it accordingly, right?

For xbmc you need to use WASAPI audio filters.

In anycase, you don't have ac3 audio playback at all? That should play through

the speaker/jack of the device by default.

Question: Do you have an D or F tabet?
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
I think there is quite some confusion about passthrough aka bitstreaming. What works with my voyo (z3735F) and lenovo thinkpad tablet 8 (z3770) is 2 channel (stereo) audio playback via hdmi. Multi channnel soundtracks are down-converted to 2-channel by the player software, e.g. xbmc using either WASAPI or Directsound. What so far doesn't work is passthrough of ac3/dd5.1 and dts audio channels for decoding by an external AVR. The reason seems to be a driver and/or bios limitation. It is my strong intention to tackle this problem.
[Windows 8 General] ebsbow:
Did you try other players that do support bitstream? I know the F version

has reduced hardware audio codex. Have to look it up in the Intel white's..

I have an D, and so far it streams all audio formats. But then again, my connection here is on a 4way stereo speaker with surround and booster not an avr.
[Windows 8 General] Downstar:
After 4-5 hours still on Upgrading your system 6%.

I decided to put it off by power button. I restarted the tablet

and the process restarted, now its stuck on 5% :(..

I will wait again some time....:eek:

What can i try to do if wont get further then 5-6% ?
[Windows 8 General] mirchichamu:
I can't help as I don't know. Nobody else is also not coming for help. Sad... Hope that someone will help you.
[Windows 8 General] Downstar:
Hmm i will wait :)..

Did it take long to do the updating of the system after updates on your voyo a1 mini?
[Windows 8 General] mirchichamu:
Sorry bro, I don't have voyo mini.
[Windows 8 General] nips:
Didn't take that long on my Voyo but on Asus T100 i reset last night and it must have taken about 45 minutes to install the updates.
[Windows 8 General] Downstar:
No problem.

Then i hope someone else can help me out :)
[Windows 8 General] Downstar:
Well updates itself didnt took that long i think.

I was going to bed and saw it was updating normally.

So i left it on the charger to get fully charged at night.

this morning i woke up, and started the tablet and then before bootup from windows 8.1; Upgrading your system (6%) was stuck on the screen for like for 4-5 hours..

So i powered off, now its stuck on 5%. for like 1 to 1,5 hour..
[Windows 8 General] ebsbow:
Annoying indeed.

At this point I can only suggest you do an restore from usb or through the uefi setup.

I'm sure there are some walkthrough's floating around.
[Windows 8 General] paul89rulez:
running Oblivion on this little tab! With chopper plate mod i have lesser thermal trottling and the tablet runs smootly!! Im very pleased with this!