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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] windstrings:
Heads up to you guys on vrzn.

Because of competition from t-mobile and now AT&T, vrzn has lowered the price of data across the board.

I'm on 10 GB plan and a simple phone call asking about it has lowered my bill 20 bucks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] patt2k:
http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/general/verizon-upgrading-plans-starting-t2924757
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tomgillotti:
Anyone having problems with the Samsunggalaxypromotions.com/note4 website accepting IMEI # and Mac address?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jcissell:
If I remember right you can't put any spaces in the IMEI number
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bsweetness:
I have been since I received mine. It keeps saying that the IMEI is invalid. As much as I don't want to, I'm probably just going to mail it all in this week.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tomgillotti:
I emailed them and asked if there was any other way besides regular mail... got a canned response.... to mail it in. So, I just put it in the mail :rolleyes:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] windstrings:
This ought to upset unlimited data users

http://recode.net/2014/07/25/verizo...estricting-network-speeds-for-heaviest-users/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bsweetness:
That's old (the article is from July). Verizon has since backtracked on it. It's no longer in their plans for the immediate future.

http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/01/verizon-wont-throttle-unlimited-data/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] windstrings:
Thx! Seems that word "unlimited" bit them....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] mrlaigle:
And the fact that they agreed with the fcc that they would not throttle on 4G when they aquired all that 4 band spectrum.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ronaldheld:
Does the Gear manager exist for the Note 4?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bsweetness:
You can get it from the Samsung Galaxy Apps store. Samsung has been moving official support for most of their apps to their own app store.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ronaldheld:
I am having no success finding the app. Can someone provide a link to it?

Edit: was looking on the Web site. I found the Samsung galaxy app installed it and then located the Gear manager.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bsweetness:
For some odd reason, Samsung didn't include a shortcut in the app drawer to get to the Galaxy App Store on the Note 4. The only way to access it is through the Galaxy Apps widget or by sideloading the APK like you did (I also sideloaded it). If Samsung wants people to use their app store - and they clearly do since many of their apps are only available there - one would think that they'd make it easy to access it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] guthrien:
Or just download it right here. Not sure why it wasn't included.

http://content.samsung.com/mobile/US/contents/aboutn/appsMobileIntro.do
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rushless:
The G3's resource draining display being pushed by a chipset designed for 1080p was more the issue for me. The N4 has a more efficient display and a chipset designed for Qhd. Less an issue for me.

As long as root is possible, I am fine with just root. Custom roms had more sense of need when we were battling performance, battery and ram issues with earlier devices. JMO.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] adampa1006:
It's Verizon. Last to get it, locked down tighter than an Amish families daughter. Gonna miss my note 2, and flashing custom kernels.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Rippley05:
I'm not gonna lie, I miss the days of the original Evo and flashing custom roms, themes, kernels, mods and more. I was spoiled by that device. There will never be a device with as much developer action again IMO. There's just too many options as far as what phone to get. The greedy dictatorship that is the United States cellphone industry will continue to lock phones down and force bloat on us, all while stripping features.

Regardless of what anyone says, dev phones aren't all that popular. I buy the Note because I like the software that comes with the spen, etc. This is what most people do. Only a select few even know what a dev edition phone is, much less actually buy one and modify it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] XdrummerXboy:
I'm coming from a galaxy S3 that is rooted and running CM11.

If we achieve root on the Note 4, can you freeze the bloatware? or is that limited to custom ROMs?

Also, Im deciding between the Nexus 6 and the Note 4, leaning towards Note 4 though. My main concern is the screen. My galaxy S3 screen had SOME burn in within a year, and now has quite a yellowish hue, so my concern is:

Has Samsungs Super AMOLED technology gotten better since the GS3? Or have they just changed the orientation/etc of the pixels, while leaving the technology of the pixels the same if that makes sense?

Also, what are the chances that the bootloader will be unlockable? I was lucky that I unlocked my GS3 before they introduces Knox (with 4.3 I think?). I think I will enjoy the Touchwiz capabilities now more than with the S3, so I'm not as concerned, but I would still like to have the option.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] pool_shark:
As much as I have enjoyed custom ROMs, they aren't a necessity for me.

As long as root is acheived I'll be fine.

With xposed and wanam I can still use themes, change the notification bar and put all apps in multiview.

Now, onto the comment about losing spen features on custom ROMs, that's only on AOSP ROMs, and when people say the spen still works on AOSP, sure it does, but unless things have changed, it doesn't have all of the Samsung software that goes with it, I'm not sure why people always leave that part out.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
spen worked like a mouse you didnt have the tw features but there was apps for multiwindow etc etc i didnt use aosp much because of losing spen and other tw features i liked. hyperdrive or other roms ran much better then stock and kernels maximized performance and battery life

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i bought one and modified it :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Rippley05:
Yep. Good for you. You're still the minority. Most people that but dev phones are also xda members, but the overall number is small.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
oh for sure i think there was roughly 50 developer edition note 3 sold and i bet 75% was members here LOL
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Rippley05:
lol, that's probably accurate.

Unfortunately.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ZuneNinja!:
Haha you've just made my day with that comment.

I'm a 12+ years verizon customer and really excited to be switching to t-mobile for the note 4, now that their unlimited 4G is up to my standards.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
Haha I know right
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Rippley05:
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...nounces-pre-orders-samsung-galaxy-note-4.html
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] CtK4949:
I just want a Note 4/Edge that i can get root and unlimited tethering. Oh and no freaking verizon logo on the front, please!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stargzrr11:
If Samsung does the same thing with the Note 4 developer edition that they did with the Note 3 developer edition, I'd argue you'd be better off paying full price for a retail model, provided root is found for it.

Things like:

Absolutely no updates at all. If you want to update, you need to flash it yourself.

No ODIN to flash in case things get goofed up

It's very possible to flash a retail update and turn your dev edition device into a retail one with no recourse

If you got one of the 4.3 Note 3 dev editions and you wanted to update to 4.4, you had wait on a helpful dev to extract out the modem firmware, hack up a kernel and a ROM to update. That was the only way. So if you are buying one of these, better hope there is a helpful dev out there somewhere who is buying this too. I knew beans was onboard when I got my Note 3 dev edition. Pretty sure he won't be getting a Note 4 dev edition.

That being said, being able to flash different ROMs is nice, but since there were so few Verizon Dev Edition Note 3 released, AOSP based ROM support has been buggy at best - I have yet to see a stable CM 11 build for it. Took until July to get stable GPS, and NFC still doesn't work. Bluetooth is buggy. The only ROMs that are pretty stable are TouchWiz based, and at that point, why bother with the dev edition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ronaldheld:
Will Verizon have it in their stores on the 17th?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] monkeyhihi:
What worries me is that the Best Buy upgrade trick won't work anymore by the time that the Note 4 is released... Verizon can take this UDP from my cold dead hands.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Morphinity:
I thought it already didn't work.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] monkeyhihi:
Beats me! All the forum posts I've found in my searches haven't been update for ~10 days or so, and we know how quickly things change. For all I know it might not work anymore... I just want a subsidized phone!

I mean, I'm willing to buy a Note 4 full price if that's what it takes, but obviously the cheaper route is always preferred.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Rootuser3.0:
Better do the BB upgrade trick before Oct 1 or all us UDP users will be throttled to our grave.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Delakit:
http://androidforums.com/verizon/844803-upgrade-your-device-maintain-udp-using-best-buy.html

Just in case.

By the way, Sprint throttles, AT&T throttles, Verizon throttles, Comcast throttles, etc... So that statement is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if you have unlimited or not. Logically speaking - throttling would be more likely on unlimited plans.

At any rate, the Verizon Note 4 is available for pre-order right now. Unfortunately, it's only the white model and won't ship until October 23rd.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oneandroidnut:
i will own a developer one if they make one. i may preorder a note 4 from verizon and then sell once i get developer edition like i did with note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Rippley05:
Why the 23rd? It'll be available in store the 17th.? Just when I thought Verizon did something right
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Delakit:
Because Verizon always takes longer - from what I've experienced. All pre-orders were said to be taking place today but Sprint's is on the 26th of this month. Everyone does things differently. Who knows, maybe they have something up their sleeve.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidguy22:
Verizon has Note 4 for $699 full retail, with Samsung $200 Trade in refund Note 4 can be had for $499.. I might do this..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] cfairchi:
I think the white only thing is a issue in Chrome browser. I had the same issue then tried firefox and was able to get a charcoal one.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] MrWicked1:
Black model is available I just pre-ordered it
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] forsaken82:
just pre ordered mine. good bye udp.. you will be missed. i did however talk the rep in to a additional 2gigs of data for free :). 12gigs data.... ill be alright
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Delakit:
There are links on how to keep UDP.

Black model was JUST added to their site which is why people can order it now. I'm waiting for the Gold.

Since I'm here, does anybody know how it works pre-ordering a phone as a new customer without a device?

I currently don't have service with any provider as I got out of AT&T. Do I pre-order the phone and pay for services I won't be using?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] forsaken82:
the links for keeping udp dont work for pre orders. it has to be done in store.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Delakit:
http://androidforums.com/verizon/844803-upgrade-your-device-maintain-udp-using-best-buy.html

you checked this ^ ?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] forsaken82:
best buys site gives me no option to preorder online. oh well, ive got wifi pretty much everywhere i go anyway
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Morphinity:
WiFi and 12GB of data. You'll be fine.

Just curious, how much did the data cost you if you don't mind my asking?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] forsaken82:
grand total with edge, data, and insurance is $138. ask rep about the free data promo with purchase of a new smartphone. that adds 1 gig, then ask if the can toss in another for being a long running customer :) worked for me! rep laughed and said that since i was nice and patient that she would do it. she was pretty hard on iphone pre order customers as being pretty ill about wait times. said she had a iphone but liked the android customers better !
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] billinaz:
Actually there are Verizon plans that dont throttle. Im on one now.

A coworker routinely goes over 25mb/mo

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Hard to believe its going to take a month from pre order to ship!

Order Date: 09/19/2014

Ship By: 10/23/2014
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ronaldheld:
The in store date is October 24th?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] doctor-cool:
Ideas?

Don't we have 14 days to make sure we're getting the best deal?

http://www.verizonwireless.com/search/vzwSearch?Ntt=return policy&nav=Global&gTab=30

Also I registered two different phones to possibly use as a trade in with this promotion.

$200 trade-in

https://samsunggalaxypromotions.com/Note4/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Rippley05:
Yea. Hard to get excited about a month long pre-order. No real reviews to look at other than "first impression" videos. Samsung really dropped the ball, there's a lot of people that went with iPhone after debating between it and the Note 4 simply because it was available.

No worries. I'll wait, I just won't like it. I'm definitely not gonna pre-order tho
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
I've never done a trade in, but I want to do it since this is a guaranteed $200.

how does it work with pre-orders shipped to home though? Do we mail in our phones? Bring it to the store? Anyone experienced this?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] doctor-cool:
Samsung gave me a link to a Verizon web page. I think I will get about $16 for a note 2 with a cracked screen from Verizon and the other $184 from Samsung =$200 according to my calculation.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
right, but what would be the actual "trade in" process? I'm curious about that. Who do I give the phone to, etc.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] doctor-cool:
Verizon will send you an envelope. After they receive the phone they will issue you the trade-in value. You are to upload your receipt for the trade-in and the new Note 4 to Samsung. Then Samsung will send you the balance of the $200 minus whatever Verizon gave you up to $190 credit. That is my understanding.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] oilfighter:
Cool, that's for the info.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ChickenWingSoup:
Reading the fine print, it looks like the value of your trade in has to be at least $10. Verizon appraises mine at $6.81. :rolleyes:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rushless:
It has to be $10 to get the full $200 difference. If your device is $5, you get $190, but total savings is $195 instead of $200.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] doctor-cool:
What kind of phone did they appraise for you

I was wondering about the same thing. SO...........

First I registered a working Razr Maxx with a cracked screen for Trade-In , Verizon appraised it at around $4.

Then I registered a working Note 2 with a cracked screen for Trade-In, Verizon appraised it at around $16.

I was going to contact Samsung and see if I can get credit for the Razr if not I'll send in the Note 2 with a cracked screen I got on eBay

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Are you sure about that? That would be alright!:D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ChickenWingSoup:
Mine is also a Razr Maxx with a piece of the plastic missing around the camera/flash.

If they would still only give me $190, I'm cool with that, but the way I read it, I'm not so sure. It says " ... trade in amount (min $10)" I took that to mean it had to be worth at least $10. I dont know? :confused:

If you contact them, let me know if under $10 will still get $190 please. Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] doctor-cool:
Yeah it is confusing, We need to ask them if the $4 phone would qualify for the promotion. How in the hell are we going to get them on the phone?

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I went to : https://samsunggalaxypromotions.com/ then clicked on Verizon then Clicked on details and found this

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Smart Samsung Phone.

Brilliant Friends and Family Deal.

Valid Pre-Order Dates: 9/19/14 – 10/16/14

Preorder the Samsung Galaxy Note® 4 and get a guaranteed total trade-in of $200* on any working smartphone.

*Fulfilled as a check equal to the difference of $200 less the trade-in value of your eligible working mobile phone at the time of trade in. Trade in value of working mobile phone must be at least $10 to be eligible. See Terms & Conditions for complete details.

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The $4 phone wont qualify
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rushless:
I might be wrong......
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rushless:
I might very well be wrong. Boo!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] wilkinator87:
Im still on the fence about pre ordering the Note 4 from verizon. I have unlimited data but my phone line has been suspended for the past almost 2 years now due to being stationed overseas and ill be coming back to the states with my unlocked/rom/kernal Galaxy Nexus. I was stuck with the Japanese version of the Galaxy S3 for the past 2 years and there was no way to unlock it or put a rom on it, and a very few people figured out how to root it but it was pretty sketch so i didnt do it so ive been stuck with a stock s3 all this time and i hated it.. What are the chances of us getting root at least?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nlanter95:
Except i don't think the deal is actually Samsung's. When I called Samsung they had no clue about the deal, and then i looked up the samsunggalaxypromotions.com website and found it belongs to prizelogic.com. So I'm not even sure about the legitimacy of this promotion...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] sulla65:
https://samsunggalaxypromotions.com/Note4/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nlanter95:
What about it?

https://who.godaddy.com/whoisstd.aspx?domain=samsunggalaxypromotions.com&prog_id=GoDaddy&k=q9SisFHSehzIAsSBL%2feLrxf367m1SGENRWh3fm0fCEwnlqdNSN2p+WQqJ%2faqZm7pIjZy61wgneGAWRFofGxV3A%3d%3d
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] art90262:
I have the UDP but im month to month since my contract expired already, my question is this: if i upgrade through BB following the link and instructions, i would end up with a note 4 for $299.00 while still keeping my UDP and at the same time i would create a new 2 year contract therefore keeping the throttling demons away? Sounds like a winner to me if im correct on my assumptions. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] closurez:
If you upgrade and sign new contract you lose udp. Im on edge plan they arreured me I would not kose udp doing that route. Unfortunately sales rep lied and I lost it as well as having to creste a sub account so I now have 2 seperat vzw bills. Its a total scam and I soent 3 weeks literally on the phone with them every day for over an hour each time speaking to the Super duper avisors, level 4 techs. Bottom line you cant get it back unless you are on an agent line.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] art90262:
My understanding is that you have 14 days to return any new purchased phones and you should be able to get your old plan reinstated...did you try that at all?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
Your assumption sounds correct, and is my plan. Especially since on BB's site I'm seeing that you get a $200 BB gift card with a Note 4 preorder...just waiting for them to get the VZW variant up for preorder. Going to try and add that to the Samsung trade in...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] art90262:
Now thats too good to be true....on top of it all we get 200 discount? Someone please wake me up im still dreaming!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
I mean, if I can manage to pull off getting the $200 rebate from Samsung, along with the $200 Best Buy gift card for preordering and trading in an old smart phone...I've got an old Fascinate kicking around that BB values at $15. So I'd be OK with letting them pay me to extend my contract and get a Note 4 haha. As long as I keep my UDP.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] art90262:
I really doubt they would let you combine those two offers....we are talking about verizon here...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
Oh, definitely Verizon would tell me to screw. But since one is through Best Buy, and the other is through Samsung...Verizon won't be involved in that part.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] art90262:
Just to play devil's advocate role...how would you accomplish such feat? Id imagine ud have to order once through each site, not to mention there probably is a fine print stating that rebates cant be combined. .dont get me wrong i wish ud be right so we could get paid for a new note 4. Btw....did u start ur order yet?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tom1226:
Haha no, haven't ordered yet, as Best Buy doesn't have the Verizon model up for preorder yet (just AT&T so far). So, on Best Buy's site, there is a promotion listed that is "Get a $200 Best Buy gift card at time of purchase with trade in of any working smartphone." I plan to trade in an old Fascinate, which is valued at $15 at Best Buy. That Best Buy giftcard is a Best Buy promo, not a Samsung promo.

The other promotion is the promo here https://samsunggalaxypromotions.com/note4/ which states that you need to upload a copy of your receipt and device trade-in receipt, and they'll send you the difference between the trade in value ($15 in my case) and $200; so I would receive $185.

As these are run by independent companies (BB and Samsung), and the Samsung one just seems to need a copy of the receipt and trade in receipt, the receipt they would receive would be showing the full $299 for the Note 4...as the BB promotion is a BB gift card, not a discount.

So, in theory, I win. Haha.

EDIT: Actually, it looks like Best Buy is currently doing preorders for Verizon Note 4's in their stores, but not online yet...I'll see if they can give an answer as to getting it done online, as I think I'd need to handle it all online in order to keep my UDP.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rushless:
I am beginning to wonder how legit the Samsung $200 offer is. As noted in this thread, Samsung customer service has no clue about it and no mention on their own site.

Whatever the case, Samsung seem oblivious at this point.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Delakit:
That's like saying people who drive Dodge don't go over the speed limit.

Companies throttle their services. 25MB in one month is nothing.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] haza12d:
I went to a Verizon store today and they said that the $200 offer is split up between any Samsung phone and any Samsung tablet. So if you trade your phone in, they would give you whatever your phone was worth plus $100. You'll also have $100 towards any Samsung tablet.

This didn't sound like anything that the promo was saying. I thought that as long as you trade in a working smartphone, you would get $200 from Samsung, guaranteed. It doesn't say about getting $100 for a phone and $100 for a tablet.

I wonder if this is Verizon's own promo. Hmmm if so, I wonder if Verizon would give you $100 + Trade-In Phone Value, then you would get $200 from Samsung. That's like getting the Note 4 for $99 plus tax! Hmmm... Might be wishful thinking.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Kawaisa:
The $200 offer has nothing to do with Verizon as they're not the ones hosting the promo. I would doubt any of them would know anything about it,