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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kawaisa:
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someone else said that their tech armor tempered glass had the halo issue, so it's a matter of installation error?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] bleuiko:
I just received my order if the iLoom flex and i'm not going to bother putting it on. It feels like a thick plastic protector and looks like one too. I supposed that with whatever composite material they're using, their marketing department can "technically" call it glass but it feels nothing like a tempered glass protector. Because of its bendable quality, I can see that it might fit the screen better without halo. It is high quality product but it just isn't glass to me, subjectively. My two ordered of hopefully revised Zerolemon protectors are on their way. More on those once I get them on the phones!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] kidd78:
It's actually is glass I messed the adhesive and like you thought it can't be glass. So I bent it till it actually cracked. So yes it is glass
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] furfmonkey:
+1 for zagg HDX.. i went to get mine yesterday and they were sold out! apparently the note 4 users where i live caught on to it working better than the glass... they said they are getting it in today (crosses fingers) hopefully i will have an HDX on by this afternoon
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mty msi:
I think the Zagg HDX is the answer as it is the only protector with a hardness rating (3H) that is consistently installing with a proper fit and no halo that offers considerably more protection than the film protectors. I've had one for a good 2 weeks that I just haven't gotten around to installing. I do envy those that have installed glass protectors without halos but none of the brands mentioned have consistently installed without a halo.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mortusqz:
i tend to disagree 3H is far beyond 9H on Mohs scale, it is nothin but screen protector, in my opinion overpriced
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mty msi:
Zagg claims the HDX has "extreme shatter protection" and for most the choice is either to use it and have considerably more protection than a film protector or a bare screen and have no halo or use a glass protector with the almost certain result of a halo. When someone comes out with a glass protector that consistently installs without a halo then there will be a more protective choice but as of right now there is not another more protective choice unless you're willing to live with a halo. As far as the price Zagg has half off sales from time to time and I'm sure Amazon has a decent price on it.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] RaymondPJR:
Your pics are proof that I should take mine back to be reinstalled. Mine its just slightly crooked! I've been dragging my feet because I'm happy not to be looking for a protector anymore. I have no complaints otherwise.

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I would go with plastic or send that phone back. If it curves that much, no tempered glass will ever fit it properly!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mortusqz:
Did i miss something ,or iloome has flexible glass 8H in mohs scale screen protector where many persons claim no halo ,you say "right now there is not another more protective choice" i agree to disagree let's count shall we : iloome flex ,rhinoshield ,iq shield ,and even icarez for 3,95 $ has 4h hardness ,sory but your post look like marketing, and your's precious zagg hdx for over 20$ on amazon can be scratched by copper coin ,
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] crash_194:
I do envy you guys having zagg stores and best buys to go and buy screen protectors off the shelf. There is no such luxury in the UK. You might be lucky to buy some crap off a market stall "if" they stock for your phone model, or we have carphone warehouse which can be a bit hit and miss. I have ordered a glass screen protector from amazon for £5 so gonna see what it's like. I have a standard zagg invisible shield on at the minute but I hate it. I have tried a spigen crystal which was ok but not as good as a glass protector.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Does the Zagg HDX have the install tabs like their Glass protectors?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
Yes they do.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ccl2003:
The Halo-filled TG lolz
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] flyhighx:
As far as whether the product is or isn't a glass product, I can not say. I would not assume that just because you bend an object until it cracks that it must be made out of glass. Plastics can also crack and even shatter. I'm in no way trying to be derogatory, I just don't think it's fair to make that assumption.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] furfmonkey:
there is no need to get hostile we are talking about phone screen protectors not world politics. that being said there are 2 complaints for every non complaint about every single protector you listed there.. if you dont like zagg dont buy it .. also hardness scale isnt everything .. in all your "research" if you looked at the HDX you would notice its more than a mere plastic shield .. i will explain it for you .. the "harder" you make glass the more brittle (prone to chipping) it can become .. many factors are involved (temp heat type of materials used in manufacturing etc) something can be an 8h and be as brittle as rice paper.. the comments for all of those are riddled with 1 star and pics and even videos of returns and dissatisfied customers... I am far from a "fanboy" of anything .. i just look for the most reliable product for my money.. after owning 15 different branded screen protectors across 6 devices i think i know my homework...like i said if you dont like it dont buy it . no reason to get into some internet argument over a piece of plastic or glass that covers your screen...

video of the HDX being struck with a hammer... [YOUTUBE]m_37V6xWrDk[/YOUTUBE]

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30 in/pounds dropped on it ... [YOUTUBE]6t5L7LqjGb8[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] kidd78:
Why don't you order from the zagg website they ship to the UK. I'm waiting for mine now
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] crash_194:
The Glass screen protectors are not available for the UK region on any websites last time I checked, not even on the Zagg website?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] kidd78:
Ordered from the .com site which they ship to Europe for free on new orders
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] crash_194:
I've done this before and had a bad experience with the time it takes for delivery. This is essentially where my comments came from with regards to being envious of zagg stores and best buys in the states where you can just walk in and buy them.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Sean Z:
Just got my Zagg glass protector. No halos, however, the edges have a white (water-like) lines that run across the outlines of the glass. I asked the Zagg kiosk at the mall if it was normal, and they said it was because the Note 4 screen is curved. Other than that, it looks good.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] crash_194:
Can you post a picture? Without trying to sound silly, it does sound like you are describing a halo effect?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] borijess:
For u guys that are buying from amazon. Are you returning them as defective if they have halo?

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 4! ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Josborne6:
Zagg and other plastic screen protector thread started.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2987371

Zagg HDX and all other non-glass screen protectors

Let's keep this one on glass as it was intended. It's been noted time and again that plastic is a halo free alternative for those that can't make the glass work due to curve variances. Just think it's more conducive to keep the chatter on plastic somewhere other than a glass thread.

sent from my Samsung GALAXY Note® 4
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] eksoccer99:
Thanks. We'll see how that goes because no one reads. Countless other glass threads started over the months when this one has been created since day one. Stay on topic? You're funny. This is xda, haha jk
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Josborne6:
Exactly! [emoji108]

sent from my Samsung GALAXY Note® 4
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] crash_194:
So, a picture of the tech gear screen protector on a black note 4. As you can see the dreaded halo is present as expected, even though the screen protector is cut massively short of the edge of the screen. Still, I can accept spending £5 on a screen protector and getting a halo effect, I would be more disgruntled if I had spent £35 on a zagg and still had the same thing!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ayeitschris:
wow that looks nice. Do you think it has the same clarity and smooth feeling as the glass? I think I may switch over to hdx..
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Tab7.7Lover:
Yesterday I bought a no brand tempered glass screen protector of a random accessory shop (not in the US) and it looks exactly like yours (the cutouts and how it doesn't go all the way to the edge of the display) but mine doesn't have a halo. Wonder if it could be because of the device itself (I have the European version)?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Josborne6:
It may be. There definitely seems to be variations in the curvature of the screen.

sent from my Samsung GALAXY Note® 4
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] crash_194:
Mine is the European version too mate, bought here in the UK. I bought it second hand but I believe it was originally on O2.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Tab7.7Lover:
Mine is N910C. When I directly look at my phone's screen bare, I did not notice any curve until 1mm after the display, so I don't understand how there could be this halo issue if the tempered glass covers just the display...
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mty msi:
More posters both here and on the Android Central forums reported the iloome Flexmate lifted at all 4 corners after installation than reported satisfactory results so the Flexmate like every other currently available glass protector is a hit and miss proposition. As I previously stated I had an iloome Flexmate I returned without even trying for that reason. I have not seen anyone post about their results using the rhinoshield or the iq shield on either this or the Android Central forums. I'm currently using the iCarez and don't recommend it because it's a fingerprint magnet and I don't like how the S Pen works with it. I have read every post on this thread and the one on glass protectors on the Android Central forums and no protector has consistently installed correctly without a halo besides the Zagg HDX. I have never owned a Zagg product until now and would have preferred the iloome Flexmate for the 8h hardness factor so I am not trying to market the Zagg product. I am simply stating what others have posted. If you want some degree of screen protection and want to be certain there is no halo the Zagg HDX is the only current choice that no one who installed one has had a problem with. As far as the price the Zagg HDX is about the same price as the iloome Flexmate which you seem to favor so I don't understand why you're complaining about the Zagg's price. In fact I got my Zagg HDX from Zagg for 50% off so it was priced almost identically to the Flexmate I bought from iloome and had to pay for the shipping to return.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ILuvRice:
I wanted to update if anyone bought the Zagg tempered glass. I did some research online(including here) about the halo effect and called Zagg today. Talked to the customer service rep and she was aware of the issue and told me that they did correct it but had issues so not sending them out yet. She said they are sending a HDX out temporarily until they can send out the corrected tempered glass. So they are not charging me for the HDX (which I will get in 5-7 days) and she said to wait as long as I can and then call back and they will send me a corrected tempered glass when they are ready. Wanted to let people know to call them.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] crash_194:
I personally think the silicon adhesive which is used on the glass screen protectors doesn't help this issue at all.

It seems to sucker on to the screen as opposed to sticking and I just don't think it is strong enough to combat holding the screen protector on anything other than a flat surface. This silicon adhesive obviously isn't strong enough to overcome the flex of the glass and hold it around the curves.Yes the glass is flexible but it has a memory and always wants to remain flat.

I know this isn't particularly on topic but I'd have thought the manufacturers would have overcome this by now, it seems such a trivial issue!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] pham818:
i cant read 180 pages, can anyone link me a screen protector that covers the whole screen with no halo?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ar216893:
you asking for glass or plastic ?

If you ask for glass, then only god can as of now

If you ask plastic, read the tittle or wait others respond.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
No such animal. :p
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] pham818:
glass sir, and thanks for the reply/
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] masri1987:
my iloome flexmate is 2 weeks in and no lifting of any corners so far..
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mty msi:
I probably should have tried mine before I sent it back. At the time there were a number of people that had the screen lifting issue.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
Yea you could have tried cause i got the flex glass on one of my note 4 black phone and there's no halo at all.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A

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Oh and almost forgot it's been on for 3 weeks and half and there's no peeling at all.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] masri1987:
it happens man, honestly this was my first ever tempered glass protector , so i didn't have any expectations to begin with, and this is coming from a habitual ghost armor user...

which one you using now?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] MasterTentacles:
It feels the same, at least to me.

My primary concern was (aside from feeling/looking good) was the use of the S-Pen. I've seen how some Zaggs end up with dimples and lines, so I was worried about that. However, it hasn't been an issue, and I'm a heavy pen user. I'm a happy camper.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] dawheat:
So after trying a couple different ones with varying amounts of Halo, I'm happy with the iloome Flexible Glass. I've had it a couple days and luckily I have no halo - besides some imperceptible lift at the corners which you can't see unless you stare at it at close range, it looks perfect. The glass overall, due to the lack of halo, is far less visible than previous protectors.

I have a black T-mobile Note 4. Perfectly clean and dry screen, using the hinge method I got it right on the first drop. Pushed the air bubbles from the inside out and carefully pushed down all the edges. I then didn't use my phone for an hour to be safe, just occasionally re-pushing down the edges as there was a bit of lift.

Initially it felt a bit grainy, but after a few wipe downs (after the hour for it to set) with a lightly damp, non-abrasive cloth, it feels much better. It still doesn't feel as good as the Mime protectors I use on my other phones, but it's very close and good enough. No touch response issues at all. It's hard to describe - it's feels like it 80% glass and 20% plastic if that makes sense.

Two days in, it looks close to the screen protectors I've used on other phones which don't have 2.5D glass. It's not 100% perfect - more like 95% - I'm keeping an eye on future lift and I don't like how much is uncovered in the top right. But compared to other Note 4 protectors, I'm finally "happy".

Pics attached.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Josborne6:
My same feelings.

sent from my Samsung GALAXY Note® 4
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] yoyobabyyo:
Has anybody tried the Glass-M glass protectors?

http://glass4m.com/products/glass-m-samsung-galaxy

On the Amazon product image, it has a sticker that says G2 Curvy Border:

http://www.amazon.com/Glass-M-Temper...=1418722103343

I am wondering if it goes over the 2.5D curves.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jlczl:
No, it means the edges of the protector are curved. This feature helps avoid chipped edges.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jlczl:
Zagg Glass if you're lucky like me. (if you have a black t-mobile version it's more likely too)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jlczl:
My recommendation to anyone just receiving their Note 4 is to go to Best Buy and have a Zagg Glass installed by them. If you're not satisfied you can have them remove it and return it on the spot and not be out a dime. If it has halo on that install more than likely it will have halo with any other glass protector as well. At that point I'd recommend using something like the HDX or any other non glass protector.........but at least you will have tried and verified glass wasn't an option in your case (being that the glass curvature or lack thereof seems completely random).
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] pham818:
I have a white tmo does that matter, and how much is it???
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] bleuiko:
Just applied the Zerolemon screen protector to my ATT Note 4 white. I think they tried their best since the protector is cut so tiny that I am seeing a rainbow effect on the edge (protector smaller than screen)... yet I'm still getting halos. See attached photos.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] crash_194:
So frustrating, why on earth would they design a curve radius that protrudes that far in on the display. I can only think that the screen manufacturers work on a ridiculously wide tolerance when manufacturing, if they work to one at all that is!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jimweda:
Hmmm...

I wasn't really sure what people were talking about when they said they were getting the "Halo Effect" until I ran into your pictures. I just received mine in the mail yesterday, installed it right away and today I have nothing like what you're getting on your phone. I loved the one I had for my Galaxy S4 which was the one I think was called Mime Ghost Glass or something like that. It was edge to edge and kept my screen in perfect shape.

This time when ordering Zerolemons 10k mega battery and case I noticed they were selling a protective glass for $19 and thought I'd give them a try since I love their batteries and they Customer Service is great. Although I wish it were full edge to edge I understand why it isn't. With that being said and since the majority of others are smaller I'm good with their version. I'm just anxiously waiting for the battery and case to get in so I can see how much of the gap the case fills in the gap if at all.

I will try to upload some pics of my screen when I get home.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jimweda:
When did the halo start to show up on yours? Installed mine yesterday and mine looks pretty clean so far. Then again I took a long time to finally drop mine onto the screen. II'll try to take some pics when Icould get to some better lighting.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] IcOpRo:
You know what happened to me, I bought that same protector for a ATT Note 4 I had until last 25th, and it was perfect not halo effect or anything just perfection, I traded my ATT for a TMO Note 4, and I bought a glass protector (not ZeroLemon) and I got right away the halo effect, so I said screw it I'll buy the zerolemon, I got it yesterday and installed it yesterday, right off the bat I got the halo effect. UGH!. I ordered another brand on amazon that arrives on Friday I'm hoping that one works.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mitchellvii:
The tragedy in all this is the fact that this curved screen design by Samsung does NOTHING for the user other than cause problems. Samsung KNOWS that glass screen protectors are very popular yet they released a product rendering them useless.

Sometimes, I swear Samsung. Do you focus test ANYTHING?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] crash_194:
I agree mate, my user experience is not enhanced one bit by this god forsaken curved screen! Lol

All a man wants is a good fitting glass screen protector, is this too much to ask for?! Let's place our hope in what 2015 brings us.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jlczl:
Sorry to tell you the third one won't work either. The variance is on the device, not the protector. If one glass sp halos, all others will likely halo as well.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] bleuiko:
iLoome Flexible Glass 8H

Since I still have not yet returned this, I figured I might as well try out the iLoome flexible glass protector. Application of this is very similar to plastic protectors (with bubbles initially) than tempered glass. Once applied, I can say that this is probably the least halo I've seen compared to other glass products, though I have not tested this against other plastic products. I am returning mine because it is lifting on one corner and I'm OCD; I also think that I can probably get the same feel with a $4 plastic protector so I'll try that route until a good glass one is released. However, it probably does provide more protection that a plastic protector.

I am adding some photos; as you can see, it was really hard to pick out any issues with it with the exception of the corner lifting up at the bottom right.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] IcOpRo:
Yeah I read that while reading a little bit of this thread. That really sucks. I temporarily put a plastic one that came with a case I bought. I'll still try the new one and as my last option I'll buy the iloome .if that don't work I'm just going to research on a good plastic protector
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
I noticed I've been flip-flopping between screen protectors and finally settled with the Alpha Glass because it was most compatible with the Commuter Series case. The Defender Series case is not compatible with any tempered Glass or HDX Screen Protectors; only the very super thin PET screen protectors. The top end of the screen protector comes in contact with the right and left plastic clips of the case. Removing the built-in screen protector from the Defender Series case does not help much, I don't want to force the clips to push in, otherwise the phone will be affected. The Defender series case does seem to have an impact on the metal edges of the phone, I would recommend staying away from this case, and get the Commuter Series, Skinomi Techskin, and Alpha Glass. Its good protection all around.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mitchellvii:
Apparently my screen is exceptionally curved. When using the Zagg Glass on mine the halo extended a full 1/8th inch into the visible screen area. That's a big curve baby. Looks like I'll never be able to go glass on this one.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Is that a Commuter Case? I have a Black T-Mobile Note 4 and the display curves evenly on both sides so installation is relatively easy for any tempered glass ,but I would prefer full screen coverage and not just within the display.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jlczl:
Nope. It's a Verus Iron Shield.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] borijess:
What glass is that?

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 4! ;)

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So if I apply a glass on my phone and it has halo. Can I return for a refund on amazon?

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 4! ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jlczl:
Zagg Glass installed at Best Buy.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jmallen3:
Hello guys! I have a new Note 4 and i am searching for a good tempered glass but i see many compains about that, due to the rounded edges of the screen of our device. So, I would like to ask you please:

1) Is there any good tempered glass which covers the full screen and also can be applied good in the display?

2) What is your opinion about this one with curved edges: http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Genuine...ting_LaptopAccessories_RL&hash=item2343f0dc44 ?? Has anyone tried that?

thanks