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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cubfan99:
My experience also. There is almost no noticeable difference between the iCarez glass protectors and the plastic ones they sell. I bought both, and they feel and perform exactly the same, except the "glass" one is thicker.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Rinthe:
does the icreaz screen block fingerprints and oils?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Dvanzutphenkann:
Yes

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Yes it does
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] AlkaliV2:
I was looking into the iLoome on Amazon and while it isn't available yet they seem to be releasing a glass screen protector like the iCarez. Anyone already got their hands on this one or know if it is a completely new product? I'm not overly fond of super thin protectors, but if it is actual glass I will remove my HDX since I cannot keep the smudges away.

Link: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00THHCSNE

Title: Note 4 ScreenMate Light Tempered Glass (0.10mm)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] zeuswsu:
I think the big difference comes in with the clarity. With all the plastics ones I've ever used they all have a yellowish tint after about a month. The clarity on the iCarez .15 is very good, much better then the plastic protectors.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] schlepprock:
I was just wondering, can you cut a glass screen protector like Zagg or Alpha Glass so it stops just before the curved edge? I could live with it not going completely to the edge if it didn't have halo. Anyone tried it? Say with like a large paper cutter.. Chop style... Thoughts
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] The Mighty Thor:
These are tempered glass, there is no cutting them. They will shatter. I haven't tried it with a screen protector but I have tried cutting tempered glass before and it doesn't work.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] schlepprock:
Maybe some continuous scoring with a sharp/new razor blade.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] huxley309:
Using say a dremel with their diamond cutting wheel would be much safer i'd imagine.

Anyone know of a good glass screen protector for the N910C yet?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] sefrcoko:
Not worth the hassle. There are other glass protectors that stop before the curved glass. I liked Inskin for example, 0.3mm and no halo for me.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] b.c.williams:
My wife and I both have note 4. Previously bought two different cheap glass protectors because returning them from Oz for warranty isn't an option, and I didn't know what the curvature would be like on these specific variants. Both had significant halo (a bad sign for buying more expensive ones), but my wifes was worse clarity and more fingerprint prone - definitely not as good.

Given the halo, figured that the icarez was going to be the best option, so bought two of them. They arrived today, and are now installed on both. Have them lined up well, and no halo on either. Don't feel as nice as either previous protector - both are a bit stickier. Both seem good for not showing fingerprints as easily as my wifes old one. So, currently reasonably happy with them. Will see how they go over a few weeks.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] shawnpuerto:
I would recommend TRYING to do that... but if it doesnt work, getting a new one isn't that expensive.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] goinovr:
Got a ZAGG on order to go with my tech21 case.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
Let us know if it is halo free. I've had 3 (1 original, and 2 revised) and they all had halo.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] noremac258:
You should probably go with an Icarez 0.15mm glass protector. It's the only one people have all had great results with.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
If you order it today you can cancel, best one with no halo is iCarez Glass 0.15mm.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] gregma:
Question on these glass protectors. I thought the main purpose was to help prevent the phone screen from cracking and instead the protector cracks. How can something like the iCarez with it's less than 2 tenths of an inch thickness still provide that protection? Seems way to thin...
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] shawnpuerto:
It's just how it works. Don't question it.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] goinovr:
Na it will be here tomorrow. Maybe I'll check out the iCarez as well. The .15 over the .4mm thickness is definitely a plus and a big reason there is no halo.

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You can no longer equate thickness with strength. Especially with advances in glass/polymer blends. (ex. gorilla glass 3) Pretty soon carbon nanotubes will go into glass production substantially increasing strength while being even thinner and flexible. It's pretty exciting.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] gregma:
I'd really love to see someone daring enough to take a hammer to a note4 with one of these .15mm iCares on... I know I wouldn't! LOL

Thanks!

Greg
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Batfink33:
I'll do it to mine for $800 :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mty msi:
It's hard for me to believe my experience is so totally different than yours. Fingerprint resistant is the last thing I'd call the iCarez but I'm not complaining because there is no halo and I'll take fingerprints & no halo over halo & no fingerprints all day long.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] jlrx81:
Thanks to all here who looked and looked for the right solution, after seeing the iCarez name listed as having no halo, I gave it a whirl and just as described, no halo.

Finally.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] borijess:
Does the ICarez get the fine scratches the iloome flex gets?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] b.c.williams:
I have always put on a screen protector more for scratch protection than breakage. A screen protector may stop it from breaking, but I think it is very dependent on what it lands on, and exactly how it lands on it. So, I really try not to drop it. But I would hate to see the real screen get a scratch from something in my pockets, so I want a screen protector I can easily replace for scratches which I think is a bigger likelihood.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
Same here.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mty msi:
I don't see any scratches on mine after several weeks of use including having a key ring make contact with it by accident several times.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] beezar:
They are also trying to make condoms out of carbon nanotubes. Excited as well...

Anyway, +1 on iCarez. No halo what so ever. It is a little sticky, does that go away with time?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ThinkAlot:
Has anyone tried the moshi ivisor edge to edge yet? Any comments about it?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] zeuswsu:
I've had mine for about a month or so. It gets less sticky overtime but it's still not the slickness of a thick tempered glass or the naked screen. It's the only thing I wish was different, but I'll take a little extra stickiness to not have the halo.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ezfreeze:
I don't believe icarez is tempered glass

I think some people are confusing a screen protector (which I believe icarez is) to tempered glass...

I went to the icarez site and see them bending the screen protector... You can't do that to tempered glass... And I don't believe there are many, if any screen protectors that have haloing...

If I am wrong, could someone post a link to the icarez tempered glass...

Otherwise, all the icarez screen protector talk is really in the wrong thread.. Since this is the tempered glass thread...

Just to be clear... Tempered glass can't bend... You may be able to flex it... But flex it too much and it breaks since it is "glass"

The person asking about taking a hammer to it... A screen protector won't protect against a hammer... But tempered glass is suppose to...
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
iCarez is glass the one that says 0.15mm thin glass i have it on my note 4 for more than a month and if you look and search the thread you will find that iCarez is glass tempered just to be clear.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ezfreeze:
Do you have a link?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
This Thread Has The Link My Friend!

http://xdaforums.com/note-4/accessories/glass-screen-protector-waiting-t2995411
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ezfreeze:
Thanks...

I also found it on amazon... Saw this 1 star comment and the thing I love about tempered glass is that it is very smooth... I saw some posts regarding it being sticky... Was wondering if this guys rubber comment was similar to the sticky...

wanted to know other peoples thoughts:

By Nicholas (TX, United States) - See all my reviews

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This review is from: iCarez® for Samsung Galaxy Note 4 [0.15MM Thinnest New Glass] Highest Quality Premium Anti-Scratch Bubble-free Reduce Fingerprint Screen Protector Easy Install Product with Lifetime Replacement Warranty [1-Pack,0.15mm] - Retail Packaging 2014 (Wireless Phone Accessory)

If this is glass, then I'm Little Bo Peep. "New Glass" must be code for "cheap plastic". The whole reason I bought this was to get glass so my S-Pen would move smoothly over the surface. After a couple days, the S-Pen now feels like it's running over rubber like it did with my last screen protector. Now it has a big scratch on it, and I have no idea where that came from. I never keep anything in my pocket with the phone, just the phone alone. No more iCarez for me.

As for installation, it was a nightmare. Everything looked perfect, and when I applied it, there were three dust bubbles (specs of dust causing bubbles). So I peeled it up and used the supplied tape and microfiber cloth to get the dust off the screen and protector and reapplied. Now there were five dust bubbles and a thread of fiber. Rinse, repeat. It only got worse until I peeled the damn thing completely off and washed it with lens spray. About 5 more tries (and 5 more washings) I finally got it to apply with only a tiny spec. It's going to have to stay there because I'm not going through this again.

I didn't have nearly this much trouble with a Skinomi skin. That's probably because the Skinomi was a wet-application skin. The problem with the Skinomi one is that the S-pen felt like it was moving across rubber, which is why I bought this "Glass" protector. Looks like I'll have to buy another one, this time a tempered glass protector.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] The Mighty Thor:
Sorry to contradict you but all tempered glass the thickness of these screen protectors will flex. I have tried several and after removing them due to the halo I flexed them all to the breaking point and they don't just crack they shatter. This includes the Icarez which I removed to try one of the full frontal screen protectors with the opaque border. On the note of the slightly sticky characteristic of the Icarez, I used the rain-x trick and it works fine for me.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] joe1blue:
Same here
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] sefrcoko:
Just to jump in here, yes all glass will flex a bit but some seem more like typical glass than others. I think that's what he wanted to know. For example, compared to Alpha Glass or Inskin which are both smooth and feel like real glass, the Moshi for me was basically plastic in my eyes, even though it was billed as "stronger than tempered glass". Not all glass is created equal lol.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Cubfan99:
All these reviews sound spot-on to me. The iCarez is advertised as glass. The ONLY way it's like glass is that it manages to break like glass when forced. Otherwise, it's like any of the other rubber screen protectors, except you pay a minimum of 3x the cost.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] beezar:
Except for that minor point that the iCarez is rated 9H hardness while PET screen protectors are usually 3H or 4H. So a huge difference in protection.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mty msi:
I strongly disagree. I had iCarez film before I installed their glass and there is a night and day difference in clarity & feel. The glass is way smoother and easier to glide your finger over & the S Pen works a lot better too. Until I put the glass on I didn't realize how lousy the clarity & definition was using the film. I can't compare it to another manufacturer's 9h glass protector because I don't have one but the iCarez glass has in no way, shape or form the qualities of a film protector.

My only issue with the iCarez glass is that it is a fingerprint magnet, I would say there is zero fingerprint oil resistance contrary to the claim there is on the box. To me the bottom line is it installed without a halo on my black AT&T Note 4 so until I read a lot of posts stating another 9h glass protector consistantly installed w/o a halo, doesn't have lifted edges and has great fingerprint oil resistance the iCarez glass stays on my screen.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Ammarious:
After 15 minutes of using my note 4 with navigation using the icarez screen protector, the protector started pealing off and many line cracks that I could not capture started appearing on the screen. This was not happening with the glass protectors on my note 3.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
Could just be the photo, but that doesn't look like it is fitted straight to me. Looks like it is rotated anti-clockwise a little.

With regard to scratches on the iCarez, I don't think it is as "9H" as, say, the Zagg, but it does resist more scratches than a standard PET film.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Ammarious:
I am not that good in english to describe the situation precisely. What appeared on the screen protector are not real scratches, they are like rainbow lines but they disappeared quickly after locking the screen for a while.

You are right, the screen is not fitted correctly 100% , but would that minor adjustment in applying the screen result in the screen being pealed off?

Would you recommend to take it off and re-apply it?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
Being out of line is putting the edge of the protector into the beveled area of the screen, so that could cause halo, or the peeling you are seeing. I would be tempted to reapply, but I fear that attracted dust could now prevent you getting a clean install.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Ammarious:
I wish I did not complain about this issue. I tried to take it off and it literally broke :(

I will be waiting for a better brand to come out.

I wonder why the Moshi went from being a good protector in this forum into a bad one.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
Sorry to hear that. If I didn't have a spare iCarez, then I would be buying a few Mocolo 0.21mm tempered glass protectors from China. They are cheap, and are the closest thing I've seen to a traditional tempered glass protector without halo. (I accept that the iCarez isn't a traditional tempered glass material - the fact that it attracts dust as it does tells me that it may have a high plastic content).
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Ammarious:
True. This cannot be glass. I will check Mocolo. thanks for the advise.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
Are you absolutely sure you ordered the right one can you post pictures of the box it came in if still have it, cause that don't look like the one on mines iCarez Glass 0.15mm .

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Ammarious:
I am sure of that of course. I don't keep packages but here is a screenshot of my order from amazon.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
Hmm interesting no issues on mines at all and i am sure it's glass over a month on my note 4 no halo at all nice and smooth, i would get in contact with amazon tell them what happen they will reply fast and replace a new glass for you for free.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] khanzoy:
Im Usning Iremax for note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Ammarious:
I explained the issue to amazon and they issued a refund.

it seems like iCarez have multiple product qualities or versions and I got the bad one.

Thanks for the help.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Mumraa:
So are people saying the Mocolo is the best? I haven't seen a decent photo of one 0.21mm being the best one? Would be good to see detail and feel is nice?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
No iCarez Glass 0.15mm for now is the best you won't get any halo at all, as long as it isn't defective.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Mumraa:
But I just read all about icare being actually plastic and feeling plastic. And no halo on mocolo but I've yet to see a good photo to prove it :s ...
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Ammarious:
Did anyone try this one?

http://www.amazon.com/Screen-Protec...mpered/dp/B00RYFO53W/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

It looks like the Moshi and the reviews are good but you never know how authentic are these reviews!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
Yeah, apologies. I threw my Mocolo onto my mates phone without the care it deserved, so didn't install it well. However, I do think it would be possible to install without halo. The coating on it is ok (not Zagg slick), but adding Fusso would probably help.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] TarheelChuck84:
Such a shame that our flagship phones haven't received the proper due diligence from accessory manufacturers (i.e. Screen protectors, cases, etc.) without such glaring, and frankly embarrassing, problems. This phone launched in October! It takes a great quality device and makes it next to impossible to find quality accessories to make the experience better. I understand there are a ton of variants with this and other Samsung phones, but come on. How are these companies getting away with this fickle junk? [END RANT]

I, too, am unimpressed with the statements of plastic-like feel to the iCarez, but it sounds like ultimately that's our best option currently....?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mty msi:
For the glass screen protector debacle I blame Samsung for using the *%$@# 2.5 curved glass on the screen. I've yet to learn of any benefit it offers yet it has made it all but impossible for the tempered glass screen manufacturers to offer screens that install properly. I think the only reason Samsung used it was because Apple did on their new phones. Too bad Samsung couldn't have used Apple's fingerprint reading mechanism instead.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Dvanzutphenkann:
I could be wrong and most likely am but I think the 2.5d cut glass is to enhance the gear VR experience.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] PsychDrummer:
I feel bad that I keep bashing the icarez, but I just wanted to point something out. I got a sent a 2nd replacement from the company which I really do appreciate. Before receiving the 2nd replacement, I decided to grab one of the cheap ebay ones for 5 bucks. The ebay one does have a fairly big halo, but for 5 bucks I didn't really care too much. I took off the icarez and decided to take a picture of it here : http://imgur.com/kbdwAH6

Now, when applied it does feel much more smooth than a PET protector, so I'm sure that SOME part of it is glass. However, there's no way that the majority of the composition is glass considering I can roll it into a tube. When I was taking off the first icarez, a piece of it broke off. If I had to guess, I would say that maybe 80% is plastic and 20% glass. I found a ton of scratches after using it for a few weeks which was indicative of the way that plastic screen protectors scratch. It also collects a lot of dust as someone else pointed out which means that there is plastic in the composition.

The one thing I wanted to mention, and the reason that I still have ebay one on my phone is protection. Someone else mentioned that the reason people use glass screen protectors is for drop protection. The ebay SP is thicker than the icarez (which is probably why it has a halo) but it doesn't flex and I'm sure if I dropped my phone on the front, my screen would be safe. With the icarez being so thin and most likely composed of a large amount of plastic, I don't think my screen would survive. But that's just my opinion. In either case, I don't want to bash the company as they did send me two replacements. I just think that for the price and what you're getting, this SP is getting praised a bit more than it should. The sad part though, is that there doesn't seem to be a glass screen protector that will both protect the screen completely and look great.

Note: I know some of you that have had no issues will say I probably got one from the bad batch. Well, that's surely possible. But I think that's a pretty shady thing for them to do if they're only sending out replacements to get rid of their bad batch.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Toxicoblivion:
So what's the actual protector I should buy now? I'm so confused with all this bickering, I just want to know the top 3 ones to make my decision from. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ezfreeze:
Thanks Cubanfan99... That is what I was thinking...

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Just so you know... That one definitely is a screen protector and not tempered glass... Probably shouldn't be posted in the tempered glass forum...
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Mumraa:
No idea I am sticking with my spigen plastic for now I dont see anything better here :( (although the icare is a bit harder I dont expect it to stop a smash and not sure if mocolo can be applied with no halo). Having equal problems finding a decent extended battery and case that doesnt look like crap and protects the sides...
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] PeteSeiler2010:
I have a ZAGG tempered glass protector on my Note 4, I also have my phone in an Otterbox Defender. I just removed the crappy plastic guard that comes with the Otterbox and the glass fits perfectly with the case on and I can barely see the halo, plus there is less of a chance of something getting under the guard and lifting it off.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] shawnpuerto:
Hmm. I understand your concern about bending it. Have you ever seen advertisements being unrealistic to catch the eye of a viewer? Or a company acting unscrupulously to advertise a product to maximize profit?

That's all that's happening here. The product is a piece of glass, and if you bend it, it will shatter. Ignore their ad, it is just an ad.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] PsychDrummer:
What he means is that screen protectors that are advertised as tempered glass, are not actually composed of 100% glass. On the last page I posted a picture of me rolling up the icarez screen protector. It didn't break because it most likely has a small % of glass and is mostly made of plastic.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Rinthe:
I got the icarez screen protector. Its good and no halo. But it seems to attract small lint from pockets like crazy. Anyone else have this problem? Maybe its static?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] srltzz342:
I would say that it probably is static. Does it happen in all different kinds of pants? I know that some fabric causes more static electric buildup than others.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mty msi:
Yes, I have the same problem and it doesn't matter what kind of fabric, does it even in my nylon winter coat pockets (non fabric lined) and for that matter attracts dust sitting on my desk. My desk is in a somewhat dusty room but I do use an air cleaner. Between that and the horrendous fingerprint marks from every time I swipe or touch the screen I'm thinking about sending it back. Getting an Otterbox Defender w/ built in screen protector and I'm thinking to use that until another glass protector that installs without a halo becomes available. I'll have to wait until I get the Defender to see how the screen clarity and fingerprint/dust situation is, originally I thought I'd remove the Defender's built in protector but now I'm not so sure. There's no halo on my iCarez and it has excellent clarity but the constant cleaning from dust etc. & fingerprints is very annoying.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Rinthe:
yup same.