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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] gregma:
Really quick reply! Here is their reply:

Thank you for contacting iCarez!

We always commit ourselves to provide the best service and products to all of our customers.

We have a Lifetime Warranty Policy:

1. Quality problem.

2. Damage in normal use. Not cracked by drop or hit.

3. Wear and tear, Scratches in regular daily use.

4. Lifetime is the life of your device.

You just have to provide the Amazon Order ID and send us a picture of the products and what exactly the problem is so we can assist you better.

Looking forward to serving you again.

Shiela T.

iCarez Customer Service

Thanks!

Greg
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Josborne6:
That sounds fair! [emoji106]

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
That's interesting, but I guess it only applies to US-based purchases. Those of us using a 3rd party shipper for international delivery are probably out of luck.

Cheers,

Steve.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
I want to see them post the reply of the same on Amazon.com, so I can have something to reference to at the time of purchase. .
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Dvanzutphenkann:
I will help you out with warranty issues also if you buy through my wife!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mty msi:
Seidio Vitreo Flex

Anyone tried the Seidio Vitreo Flex?

I have to order their Convert Add On kit (which they just released) for my Surface case and I'm tempted to give it a try because it was just released too and I'm thinking if they waited this long and have something different from the rest of their glass protectors it may install w/o halo. I called their customer service and specifically asked if it had a halo and the response was no.

It's I think the only Vitreo Flex Seidio makes as for other phone manufacturers/models I think they're called Vitreo tempered glass and not "Flex". The Flex is 8H and the other Vitreo's are 9H. I don't believe I've seen any other 8H N4 protectors. Seidio states it is "flexible tempered glass".

http://www.seidioonline.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4-vitreo-flex-tempered-glass-p/sptssgt4-cl.htm

Downside to ordering Seidio products directly from their website besides the nosebleed Neiman Marcus prices is you pay freight both ways if returning so I'm hoping maybe someone has tried it but guessing because it was just recently released no one has. And like the Convert Add On kit because the Vitreo Flex was just released I can't find it anywhere but on Seidio's webstore.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] tauzins:
I agree that when your phone heats up or in sunlight the icarez lifts but after it cools it seals again.....IDC tho I'll take that over constant halo
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] TARDISMAN:
Moshi Glass iVisor Installed on new Note 4 At&t version. Seems perfect.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Josborne6:
No doubt. [emoji115]

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Tab7.7Lover:
The iloome flex is also 8H.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Only 0.28 mm (0.01 in) thin? The iCarez is .15mm thin. :confused:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
Yea iCarez is much thinner so I'll stay with that unless something much later comes out better.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mty msi:
I noted that difference but was thinking the additional cost may be worth it as I know it's going to fit with my Seidio Surface/Convert case w/ no problem. The Surface/Convert case lip is right down on the glass and I'm thinking maybe the Vitreo Flex is sized smaller and doesn't go under the lip. I'm currently using an iCarez film protector that goes under the lip which as I recall is .3mm and it's too thick. If the iCarez glass one at .15mm goes under the lip I won't know until I get it on if that's a problem or not.

Just like everyone else I'm past tired of dealing with the screen protector issue and if I get the Vitreo Flex there's no hoping that it fits w/ the Surface/Convert case, I know it will. And for $20 more (provided there's no halo) I think it's worth it to me. If the Vitreo has a halo than plan B is the iCarez.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
$40 for a piece of glass? :confused:

For BodyGuardz, I'd understand, since they attempted to hide the halo by disguising it in a aluminum rim.

Time will tell if that is really worth the effort to buy and install or not.

In the meantime, I'll stick to the defective iLoome I currently have installed wait for The Crown. As soon as I confirm the Crown is a dud, I'll consider the iCarez for the Defender Case and Moshi iVisor or the equivalent, if I ever use the Commuter Case (which I strongly doubt).

That'st all for now. :cool:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] mty msi:
If I had any clue Seidio was going to take this long to release the Convert Add On Kit for my Surface case that I bought in late October I would have bought the Defender and I'd get the iCarez glass. Biggest reason I didn't buy the Defender is Otterbox makes no mention on their website of it's kickstand/clip. I didn't find out about that until I read the Defender review here on xda and by that time I already had the Surface.

I've also got a Zagg HDX I've never tried so that's an option too. I'm not a proponent of spending $40 for a glass protector but at least I know it will fit with my case. Whether it has a halo or not is a question mark but so is the iCarez fit with my Surface/Convert case. I haven't made a final decision.

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I forgot about that, I had one that I returned without trying because of all the posters who said the corners were lifting.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Spo0f:
I've installed Nillkin glass and while the halo is reasonable, it has awlful blue tint on sunlight. Is this for all tempered glasses or for this one in particular?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] crash_194:
I think you must have bought one with the blue light filter gimmick? It seems to be the latest craze that blue light emitted by mobile phone displays can interfere with your sleep patterns or some garbage along those lines?

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Josborne6:
Day two with the iCarez. Looks legit. No lifting or halo.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] luisvilla1993:
is this the 0.28 or the new 0.15 version?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
That's the New 0.15mm

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
The iCarez looks invisible to the eye, haha. Now, if only I can buy The Crown's Aluminum rim and put it on iCarez, then we have somewhat of a winner. Does anyone sell the aluminum rim component for the BodyGuardz Pure or something similar?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
Why would you want an aluminium rim? Presumably it's for protection, rather than aesthetics?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
Hehe let's get them lol.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] cybertec69:
I installed the iLoome 8H tempered screen protector, which is flexible, not rigid glass like the 9H ones, and it still has a slight halo effect on the edge, on mine it is on the right side, and a slight halo effect on the left hand side at the top "nothing crazy" even though the protector is on as square as can be, looks like the curved screen makes it hard for any tempered screen protector to sit on it without the halo effect, unless you install something like a Zagg or the like which is not solid and will lap over the 2.5D edges. I send iLoome an email regarding this issue and they issued me a refund. The other issue I found with this 8H tempered glass is that since it has some flex in it, it is is a bit on the soft side, so when you use the stylus pen it does not glide smoothly over the glass, it sticks a bit and leaves lines on it which clean up by whipping it down, but it is annoying, it looks like to me not much research was done before throwing this product on the market.. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NB9ET2W/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Josborne6:
The iloome has a coating that gets smoother after you clean it. The edges take a couple of days to lay down. You may want to wait if you have a good install of the iloome before removing it. Especially since you were refunded for it.

If you can't wait a couple of days though, just do the iCarez since they refunded you. Should be a better fit without any lifting from the beginning. I would use whatever install method you did on the iloome as the iCarez is flimsy too (ie. hinge method). Good luck.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Good luck with that one. :p
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Argh. :silly:

Oh well, I guess Patience is a Virtue. Is it? :p
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] oneandroidnut:
I am using the zerolemon one and for $10.99 I am 100% happy. No issues for me at all
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
The aluminum rim is to compensate for the halo that appears when installing typical tempered glass screen protectors. This solution was devised by BodyGuardz; not sure if its really clever or not.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
I'll order one and give it a whirl when they are available :silly:

Did you see my hot/new mix and match Defender cases on that other thread?

My wife has already taken possession of the Citron Green /Dark Jade. (I wanted it for my Girly white note 4) :(
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] smacsteve:
It looks like crap.

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This looks amazing! I'm probably going to be giving this one a try after so much disappointment from Zagg
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
Yes it's Amazing been using it for a week so far no issues and you can't even notice it's on and first install no halo .

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] smacsteve:
Good to know. I'm going to order one then!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
iCarez outside of the US

It's worth reiterating that anybody who wants an iCarez outside of the US should PM [MENTION=5312977]Dvanzutphenkann[/MENTION], as his wife is kindly arranging ordering and shipping for a few of us.

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Yes, but the suggestion was to couple the rim with an iCarez, which doesn't have a halo...
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] PsychDrummer:
I've been away from this thread for a few days. Man, maybe I should contact iCarez again. The replacement I received less than a week ago also has a slightly halo. It's not terrible, but seeing all of these pictures with no halo makes me annoyed by the one I have haha. I don't know about contacting them again. One the one hand, it is an item imperfection, but on the other I feel as though it's nitpicking and they already sent me one. What do you guys think?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
I can't tell from the picture, but is that the 0.15mm version?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
It's your money you payed for a screen that should have no halo at all i would contact them show them proof like you did here and tell them you want a replacement, that's what i would do.

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Aye forgot to ask that as well., good point.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] cybertec69:
The edges never laid down, it is still on my device "for now", it does feel smooth using your finger, but the stylus still does not glide over it like regular glass.

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Just let it be, it is the nature of the beast called Note 4 round edged glass screen.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Josborne6:
Agreed. There are definitely glasses that are smoother, unfortunately the flexible glasses just plain aren't as smooth. The illome seems to be hit or miss with adherence. Perfect placement is key also. If you are off even by a hairs width it will lift. From the pictures i've seen, many of people's complaints lie in their incorrect placement. The iCarez is slightly smaller so it should be a little more forgiving. Beats the heck out of the rubbery plastic ones though! My Zagg HDX was off in under 24 hrs. Holy pen trails Batman!

I would do the iCarez 0.15mm if you can. I'm on day 3 and it still looks good. If you buy it through Amazon, you can return it if you have issues with the iCarez.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Tab7.7Lover:
If you change the tips of the S Pen to the white ones, it will be much smoother.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
My apologies for not elaborating. :p The iCarez doesn't go edge-to-edge. I was wondering if an aluminum rim would be able to compensate for this and offer somewhat of an edge-to-edge coverage with the iCarez already installed. :)

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Lol, don't ever remind us of the HDX ever again! :silly: I can't believe Zagg is able to sell such a contraption. Horrible for the screen, and horrible for life. Lol.

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You have a quite a collection going on there. I like to stick to one case, and leave the phone in there for as long as possible hopefully by the time I need to resell it.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Josborne6:
Ohhhhh. Gotcha! [emoji106]

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I have the same sentiments for the **gg. Thought they were great back in the day when screens were 3" and there was no swipe texting. And then came the glory of glass SP's. It was like my first car with keyless entry (dating myself a little there) you wonder how you ever lived without it and could never give it up in the future.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Truth is, we all need protection for these kind of phones nowadays, doesn't matter how careful you are in terms of handling devices. The screen is the main component, without which, the device is useless.

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Now why is that, I've always pondered on this. Shouldn't the material be the same, or it just another Samsung thing? :D
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
I think the black ones are rubberised and grippy, and the white/grey ones are a harder plastic offering less friction.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
It's been discussed on the forums, that the Black Note 4's have more oleophobic coating and is more vulnerable in coming off if you don't use screen protection, whereas the White Note 4's tend to have the right amount and is more resistant to the oleophobic coating coming off.

The irony is that I've found the White Note 4's having a better build quality overall than the Black Note 4's. It's just plain odd.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
Sorry, I got confused, I thought we were talking about the tips of S-Pens.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] cybertec69:
I just did that, and yes you are right, it is MUCH smoother, why are the white tips so much smoother, and how come they did not just install the white tip from the get go and include nothing but white tips as extras. Do these tips wear out, and what is their lifespan.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Oh, I see, still wondering why the color of the S-Pens differ as well in terms of build quality. :confused:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] cybertec69:
Do you have any scientific data, studies to back up your claims. Or has Samsung actually stated this.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
The iCarez is thinner then the Bodyguardz Pure and I'm almost sure it won't work with the crown. I'm sure the Crown is cut to fit perfect with their exact cutout on the Pure glass. I could be wrong though.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Tab7.7Lover:
The white tip I believe is made of plastics where as the black tip is made of rubber. The white tips are harder than the rubber black tips and I think they could scratch the screen more easily so the default one is the black one which works perfectly fine on the bare screen.

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I believe the white tips are plastic where as the black tip is rubberized.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] cybertec69:
I was just on www.androidcentral.com and someone there said the same thing that the white/grey tips are made for plastic screen protectors. I would have never known, thanks again. Also I don't think the white/grey plastic tip would scratch the bare Note 4 screen, I doubt that corning gorilla glass 3 would scratch with anything plastic running across it's surface.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] PsychDrummer:
It's the .15 one. Yeah, I suppose you guys are right. I wouldn't have minded too much if everyone had a slight halo, but since it's just mine and I can get one with no halo I should try.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] djdig:
Here is updated pictures I took of my note 4 in slim armor case with iVisor glass (the dust you see is on the outside not on inside of glass).
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
You think you can do a drop test? Many want to know if the Moshi falls off upon impact. :silly:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
Interesting i think it would depending how it falls.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
I just found the adhesive cheaply applied on the sides when it should have been throughout the actual screen area as well.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
Very true when i had it was very easy to remove with my fingers.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] djdig:
Well I won't drop on purpose but it has taken 2 or 3 falls already off my studio table on the carpet because I don't pay attention and the glass never slid or anything. Also I keep this in my back pocket most of the time even when I get in and out of my truck, etc... and nothing has happened to the glass or case.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
By now, I would have expected BodyGuardz to start releasing their Pure Crown for demonstration or review purposes. Come on, already! :cowboy: I [MENTION=5860476]felloffthetruck[/MENTION] and thought it was mid-February already. :p
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
I'm also looking forward to the Pure/Crown/Express Align tray deal. :o

Let's pray it's not another complete failure :(
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
It's Samsung if they don't release there lollipop than crown don't get released lol, but your right they did say February.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] avilancaster:
Yeah, I'm glad you didn't do an actual drop-test. but this is pretty good information. I've had instances before where the glass would just slide right off, given the correct angle and amount of pressure. My wife uses glass screen protectors, and an otterbox on her iphone, and she doesn't have any issues with sliding- probably because the otterbox keeps everything locked down. It's a nice case, but I can't see myself actually using something that bulky. I just use plastic screen protectors. They work for me.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] djdig:
Yeah the iVisor sits right up against the Spigen lip where the case meets the phone. I tried it with the Tough Armor, Hybrid, and Slim Armor. I just like the slim armor because its the one I used on my note 3, it can be slippery, but countless out of pocket and it was mint condition when I got rid of the note 3.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Dvanzutphenkann:
Hey guys! This is Dylan's wife. Please email me with how many icarez you would like and your PayPal email address so I can send you an invoice.

To clarify....

It will cost $40 u.s.d for the shipping AND the icarez product.

I need to have your orders so I can place my order within the next 24 hours. I am using usps first class to ship. The cost is for shipping and the product only. I am actually losing money on these by using PayPal (fees)... not making money. The price is the actual cost. If you wanted to purchase more than one icarez, the cost WOULD NOT be $40 For each one. It would be $40 for the first icarez and shipping. $25-30 for the icarez and shipping the second or 3rd. These prices are approximate. I would have to recalculate the cost of shipping for those who are interested. Any questions, comments and/or concerns, please feel free to email me!

My email addy is jenniferlvan@comcast.net

I need all orders in my 6 pm eastern standard time on February 3rd, 2015.

Thanks!!

P.S if you are unsure of sending a random person your hard earned money, using PayPal is a safe way of doing so. I am a successful ebay seller, since 2002. My feedback is 100%.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] king101x:
I bought the skinomi on amazon and got the HALO everywhere on my phone... can u guys recommend one doesn't have that effect please ???:confused:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Skinomi Glass? Or Techskin? Techskin doesn't produce Halo (its a wet-install). :confused:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Rashad83:
Guys i have been using screen protectors since the first phone i had, and just before 2 months ago I bought kingkong tempered glass for my g2 but as others stated it simply doesn't fit and doesn't look nice especially the white edges u get because that's where the sticky parts are. Any way since then i stoped using screen protectors and any related products u know why?, u simply can't believe how gorgeous the screen is without these products i also learned from my experience that maintaining the phone cleanliness is the same whether i have a protector or not. So i advice u to try ur phone for 1 week without any protector except maybe a case and see the difference.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] king101x:
It's Skinomi Tech Glass

http://www.amazon.com/Skinomi-Tech-...=UTF8&qid=1423019323&sr=1-11&keywords=skinomi

It still have the Halo
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] arjun90:
Request a replacement for a revised version, better yet, request for a full refund. ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] tauzins:
iCarez in my signature, has no halo, the zagg skinomi etc. all have halo, the reason icarez doesnt is because how thin it is.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Spo0f:
I was wondering - being so thin does it feel like glass or more like something between the plastic and the glass protectors?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] StevePritchard:
Can't answer for the iCarez (yet), but the Glas.t Nano from Spigen as I had on my S4 are 0.15mm thick too, and they feel like glass. So there's nothing inherent in the thickness, or lack of it, that would affect the feel.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Josborne6:
ICarez 0.15mm glass.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
I have the ICarez. 0.15mm glass and it feels like it should glass.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Josborne6:
Definitely not like plastic. There are smoother glasses, but you will definitely have halo. The iCarez is pretty smooth.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] zeuswsu:
To be honest I don't think the iCarez feels like glass. At least it's not as smooth as any tempered glass I've ever used.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Venom0642:
Assuming you ment no halo on the ICarez since it's 100% free Halo.

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This is how i see it i know it feels like glass too but definitely doesn't feel anything like plastic that's for sure.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] masri1987:
the iCarez to me, feels like the iLoome flexglass protector, but with much more hardness.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Josborne6:
Yes very similar. But nothing like plastic a Zagg HDX or similar.

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[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] bigup7:
I contacted icarez UK via Amazon and they said they Don't know when they will stock thier note 4 glass protector

They really need to get this over here! I'd be all over it