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[Shield Tablet General] lanwarrior:
It's very sporadic for me. 9 out 10, no network traffic whatsoever. I also have my iPad Air with me at all times and when the Shield hangs, I immediately connect the Air to my Note 3 and there is network connection. So I am sure it's not my Note 3.
[Shield Tablet General] rushless:
Tether or not, connectivity issues are there. Wifi tether is more dubious since emits an even weaker signal for battery life and heat reasons. Weak tablet wifi and weak router/tether wifi equals connectivity doom.
[Shield Tablet General] lanwarrior:
Interestingly, my Note 3 and ZTE Hotspot is only 6 inches away from the Shield tablet and...... zilch data.
[Shield Tablet General] smoke423:
Just got mine last week and use my note 3 to tether its seem ok also my home wifi is att and its seem ok
[Shield Tablet General] lanwarrior:
I suspect this issue affect some of the tablet. I just did another test with a brand new router and the tablet network crapped out too.

Anyway, will be returning the tablet.
[Shield Tablet General] Kirotan:
Sounds like there must've been a shoddy batch.

The only WiFi issues I have are on the university's WiFi, but their routers have poor quality handoff and range to begin with. I've gotten a good experience on my own network, but not that there aren't any issues. Generally, my shield has fewer WiFi borks than my Nexus 5, so I'm pretty happen.

Once in a while, it'll connect to WiFi, but none of the apps will be able to access it, but that's pretty rare and fixable with a power cycle.
[Shield Tablet General] lanwarrior:
It is, but there's no quick replacement because most store are out of stock. Also, until Nvidia acknowledges this problem, there is a chance the replacement will also be defective.

I spent way too much time on this tablet already, more than any other tablet I ever had.
[Shield Tablet General] rushless:
Best Buy still has them in stock. Same wifi issue, but not enough time of use to see cracks happen. Weak wifi resulted in quick returns. Wishful thinking perhaps that another unit from the same place would be any better.
[Shield Tablet General] lanwarrior:
Best Buy have it for shipping, not in store. So it'll be a 1-2 weeks wait, with the additional "gambling" factor --> will the new unit have Wifi issue?
[Shield Tablet General] rushless:
My guess is yes, until / if they redesign. Will be interesting if the LTE model has weak wifi too.
[Shield Tablet General] ogar1978:
I have been arguing with tech support for over a month on this. They insist its a software issue and keep telling me to on wait on the next update. After 2 updates WiFi is still terrible and makes the unit virtually useless over 20 feet from the router. It is clearly a hardware issue that they refuse to acknowledge.
[Shield Tablet General] lanwarrior:
If you go to the Geo Force forum, the die hard fan have the same kind if mentality. I.e. it's your router, it's your Wi-Fi settings, etc.

When i had mine, I tested it with different routers, from regular home Asus router to an enterprise grade Meraki AP. Oh, and McDonald and Starbucks AP. Unstable Wi-Fi connection all around.

So yes, it does affect some, if not all the tablet, as documented all over the Internet. Too bad Nvidia won't at least pay attention too these actual problem.

Yep, no more Nvidia tablets for me!
[Shield Tablet General] nielo360:
the wifi is a hardware issue as many on the NVidia forums have stated you can actually RMA it.
[Shield Tablet General] lanwarrior:
[MENTION=1068486]ogar1978[/MENTION]: were you able to obtain RMA, seeing that NVidia Tech Support seems to insist it's not a problem.
[Shield Tablet General] rushless:
Fanboys are a company's best friend to blow smoke over their incompetence.

Shield tablet wifi is the weakest of any device tested for me since the infamously awful Acer A500. This is on par with it. The 3DS has stronger wifi. Very sad.

My Shield 1 though has good wifi.
[Shield Tablet General] RedLineJoes:
Just got the LTE 32GB ATT Unlocked on Amazon for $299

The tablet is really nice. There are issues however. The OTG Y-Cable I have will charge the device attached to USB (ethernet or gamepad) but it will not recognize the device to the tablet. No matter what steps you take to connect the OTG cable. It just doesn't work. I had the same issue with my Galaxy S4 and trying to use a OTG cable made for Galaxy S3 devices. It's a software issue as far as I can tell. The Wifi and LTE signals are not very strong either. That is also a software issue. My wife has an HTC One and that thing has the exact same issues connectign to my Wifi Router as this Shield tablet does. You have to power cycle Android OS to get the tablet or the HTC to connect properly, otherwise it will continuously say authentication failed. You can try to turn off security on your Wifi and it will connect, but it won't work. A power cycle is required. Funny thing is my Galaxy S4 does not have these issues. So it seems odd that only some devices are having this software issue when they are all running KitKat. I really don't think it's hardware though because other WAPs seem to work fine. It's mysterious for sure. I believe the device will only get better so I'm going to hang on to it. I was able to stream 4K XXX from the datacenter, to my hosue and over my wifi to the tablet. I could also stream 1080p videos. The 4k stuff was chugging but I expected that. However 1080p streams wonderfully. This is a very powerful GPU and I am just getting used to it.
[Shield Tablet General] HSuke:
I just received my new Shield Tablet from Amazon and have been playing with it for 2 days.

It has extremely spotty WiFi. If its WiFi signal is weak, it does something funny, and my whole network shuts down (extreme network latency and packet loss across all devices). If I turn off its WiFi, the network recovers almost immediately. Happens at both home & at work.

Even when its WiFi signal is strong, I often get issues where network connectivity is spotty within apps. Gonna raise a support ticket for this.
[Shield Tablet General] AlexusJ:
I agree with people who have WiFi issues - yesterday I received Shield Tablet from Amazon (the LTE version), updated it, fully charged it and been playing with it for few hours. WiFi connection is much worse than both on my old iPad 4 and all our family's smartphones (Moto X, Galaxy S5, LG G2, etc.), when sitting in the same exact spot in same exact room. Signal strength constantly fluctuates, watching streaming content from sites like Twitch is very annoying (lots of buffering, have to reload app very often, never happens on other iOS/Android devices I have), same goes for things like "Battlefield 4 Commander" app (very laggy when connecting to any favorite server). This is using Netgear R7000 router in "Access Point" mode, only using 2.4 GHz band (since it gives more range), using latest official firmware for everything.

Reading more of official Nvidia forums it appears to be a pretty widespread issue (even though Amazon's own reviews are mostly perfect). Which is pretty unfortunate, since the tablet has very good physical size, good display quality, no bloatware and has front stereo speakers, with a pretty good price (when you get LTE version with contract upgrade). Even though I've been a long-time Nvidia fan (been using their superior video cards since original GeForce GPUs, never had any serious issues with compatibility or performance in any games, using all kind of hardware combinations) I think I'll be returning it while I can and instead look for something else :(
[Shield Tablet General] HSuke:
I did some more testing. I've tried pinging my router and Google's servers using the Net Ping app. You can set that app to ping continuously.

On my smartphone and other devices, I get zero packet loss.

On my tablet, when the WiFi signal is good, I consistently get 45-60s of uptime followed by 40-45s of packet loss. I've timed it with a stopwatch and have found this to be a very consistent pattern. I've also rebooted the tablet to no effect. Unfortunately, I don't have a way of snooping the wireless router to determine whether it's the outgoing or incoming packets that are dropped.

Could someone repeat this test and see if they have the same pattern of timeouts?
[Shield Tablet General] uuang:
I had a WiFi tablet with cracks. Got an LTE RMA in return, both had the same weak WiFi on both bands, however since the last 2 updates the WiFi has been great. Better than my phone and nexus 7 actually. Personally I thought the issue was resolved for everyone now.

Just ran a continuous ping to google, in case I had just missed the symptoms. I had no packet loss over 2 minutes.
[Shield Tablet General] Darthus:
I just realized for me going into airplane mode and enabling WiFi only improves the wifi stability on the LTE tablet for me. My guess is the LTE connection creates interference with the wifi. For hose having WiFi issues try this out this changed me being unable to play a gamestream game due to constant interference to no issues for 20 minutes of continuous play.
[Shield Tablet General] Arun01:
Heck I was all amped up to buy this device. Can't believe a tablet is released with Wi-Fi issues nowadays lol. I don't want to go back to my transformer prime days of poor Wi-Fi:eek:
[Shield Tablet General] cyraxx84:
It's actually not that bad, it's even faster in terms of download speed compared to my HTC One M7(near the router). The problem that exists is that the range is not the best and it depends on how you hold your Tab. But i must say that my router is also Bullsh!t. Will buy a new one and hope those wifi "problem" will come to an end because everything else is just great!
[Shield Tablet General] HSuke:
It's been > 2 weeks, and I've figured out that as long as I'm within close range of the wireless router, I can avoid 99% of the WiFi issues.

Once I get into the border range, the device shuts down my entire network and I have to keep its WiFi off. I've since relocated my wireless access point as a workaround.

Also, the device is extremely susceptible to microwave attacks. I get absolutely no connection whenever I'm near an active microwave, which in turn causes problems for my other devices. My other Android devices at least somewhat worked during microwaving before I introduced the Shield Tablet to the network.
[Shield Tablet General] whitlecj:
I just got the tablet and I experience frequent WiFi drops. Very disappointing. Great device otherwise.
[Shield Tablet General] bigcletus:
My WiFi is fine unless playing a grid game and using a Bluetooth controller. It kills the WiFi and loses the connection.
[XDA Assist] letino27:
I have a rooted Galaxy S4. This afternoon i was exploring some settings and such and i saw the lcd density. Now i apologize for being a noob but i set it from 480 to 530. Once i rebooted, Touchwiz or ANY OTHER PROCESS is not responding. I cant get past lockscreen because beyond that it is filled with messages such as

. I have searched other forums and instaled Nova Launcher but i cannot set it as default launcher because of the constant error messages. I have tried adb pulling the build.prop from the phone but it labels my phone as "unauthorized" and it asks me to confirm usb debugging. Yet again i cannot confirm on phone because of error messages popping up.I cick ok but before i can touch another window, another error message pops up...etc. I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO. will factory reset fix it? I dont know about the lcd density. and if i cant confirm the debugging command,i will never be able to pull the file through adb. Please help me.
[XDA Assist] Razvan:
Hi there,

You can start asking in your device specific forum:

> Samsung Galaxy S 4 i9500, i9505, i9505G, i9506 > Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Or in this existent thread:

[HELP THREAD] Galaxy S4 | Ask any question | Noob friendly.

Good luck
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] vegabyson:
Saw these today on amazon and i had to order it. Used it on my note 3, s5 , and now my note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] GatoL0c0:
I ordered the Slim Armor one since it has the kick stand and is slimmer than the tough armor version.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] GatoL0c0:
Spigen Slim Armor
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] yyhd:
Awesome. I like that amazon has these for preorder. I don't think Spigen has even posted these on their website yet.

I've come to really like Spigen products, but Supcase is making waves lately too.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] knarfies:
they are up now. kind of hard to decide though. I bought the thicker one for my note 3 and dont know if i want to go with the hybrid this time or....

Has anyone tried the hybrid? protect the device just as well? Ive dropped my note 3 in parking lots, smacked it against gym equipment, stepped on it at the gym lol, dropped on tile lol. still holding up with minimal ware and tear. Only visible issues are the hairline cracks everyone else is seeing.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] darth_twins:
I ordered this one too...I still have it for my note 3 and they are great. Protect the phone very well.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] maximus96:
the neo hybrid on the note3 looks nice, but made it "bigger than bigger" as apple puts it...i will wait until its on Prime for the easy return
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] theorioles33:
Not only does Amazon have them, they are half the price which is crazy. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] bjhatch:
Where are the hairline cracks?

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Is anyone getting a tempered glass screen protector as well?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] knarfies:
the hairline cracks go down the chrome plastic surrounding of the phone. Where the note 4 has metal, that was cracked. Nothing crazy but it was noticeable. I actually purchased the metal neo hybrid and the glass protector. First time trying one of these.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] carlitos29:
I wish they would make the neo hybrid metal series for the note 4 as they did with the iphone. They look bad ass!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ohbreeeezy:
Wait for Verus to release their Iron Shield for Note 4.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] DarkManX4lf:
Looks like a nice case. If thats a metal bumper then there may be signal issues.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] carlitos29:
Yessss!

Now that's what I'm talking about! Eventhough the spigen one has shiny chamfered edges that give it that premium look, but I'll buy this any day! :D
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] maximus96:
A metal bumper for my metal bumper, hope it doesn't kill signal thought...
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ohbreeeezy:
http://www.amazon.com/Galaxy-Verus-...&sr=1-1&keywords=note+4+verus+iron+shield+red
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] busab:
I had the Neo Hybrid for the Note 3 and hated it. While I loved the design, It had ZERO grip. It was always sliding out of my hand. I hope the new ones have a more tacky back now.

That Versus case looks nice and looks like the back might have a bit more grip.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] b.huss2:
Just ordered this sexy thing.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] AngryDinosaur:
ya definitely getting Spigen

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holy hi res
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] aburns7487:
i ordered one of the Verus. I'm hoping that the outside piece truly is Aluminum metal and not plastic made to resemble metal as in the Spegin Neo. DOnt get me wrong , I love the Spigen but I often found myself breaking the bumper ring when I was changing batteries. I always get extra batteries of whatever phone i have. Whether it was the GS3 (my dad), GS4 (my sister), GS5 (my gf), Note 3 (me).........now when I get the Note 4.

Wondering when Note 4 accessories, such as extra battery or spare battery kit (extra battery and spare battery charger) since the new battery is 3220 MaH.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] il buono:
I have it for the G3 and it's real metal.

I'm on Verizon and in certain areas I've really experienced a dip in reception. A few times I've been dropped to 3G and a couple of rare times even 1x. A few reviews on the Amazon page for the G3 Iron Shield also report seeing signal degradation with the case on.

Sent from my LG G3
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] rekman:
I ordered the Neo Hybrid through Amazon. They had a small window where it was available for $3.49 if I remember correctly. I was very happy. Then I noticed there was gonna be an aluminum Neo hybrid. then it disappeared for a while, so I ordered the Verus. Now Amazon is listing the aluminum Neo Hybrid again.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] ryanalan82:
Ordered the satin silver neo hybrid which will look awesome with a black note.

Swyped from my eVo
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Bubbled:
i like the looks of the Spigen, but why do they all say autofocus? its ugly... like the stickers that come on a new laptop advertising the specs, yoink, never see em again. i picked up like 4 other cases though, lol
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] randpost:
I've had at least 1 Spigen case for each of my last 10+ phones except for my OnePlus One, but only because they didn't make one for that specific phone. With that said, I have yet to have a good customer service experience with them.

Then why do I keep coming back? Because they are usually the first quality cases to the market for most popular phones and they make great cases. I think it has more to do with the lack of competition especially during pre-order stages. I usually pre-order phones.

I went with a Verus instead of the Neo-Hybrid this time, but I still have a Spigen Capsule coming since I couldn't find a decent alternative.

** My God. Get rid of that Auto Focus on the back!!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] iyvin14:
These were $3.49 on October 1st, I ordered the Metal Slate one
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] F123D:
They're on sale this very moment for $3.49 again. Just picked one up.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] busab:
It says $14.99 for me. I must have missed it again. Bummer. That's all a good price though.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] J-man67:
I just ordered 2 of the Verus cases. Got one for a buddy of mine...forgot his B-day so new case it is. They look pretty sharp to me...I'll report back once I have the phone and case.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] xda23:
Hey do you have the link to this bud. Thanks. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kawaisa:
http://www.amazon.com/Spigen®-METALLIZED-BUTTONS-Protective-Premium/dp/B00MAWRDDS
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] 9e705ebbf0:
I'd love to get wireless charging for the Note 4, but it looks like the Samsung official Qi back adds bulk. Does this mean the neo hybrid won't fit?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kawaisa:
Most likely
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] randpost:
I thought I would be receiving My Spigen Capsule case today, but they sent the wrong case. Even the shipping label said capsule. Oh well. Guess I'll keep the Neo Hybrid. I will say that the build quality and design has cotten better since the Note3 NeoHybrid.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kawaisa:
Nice, I probably wouldn't complain if I got a more expensive case :)
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] maximus96:
Looks like the neo hybrid adds significant size to the phone just like the note 3 version right?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] borijess:
Is that this case? If so how much protection does it offer. For example protection against drops.

Galaxy Note 4 Case, Spigen Neo Hybrid Case for Note 4 - Retail Packaging - Metal Slate (SGP11119) by Spigen http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MAWRB44/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_iGVnub1PSBEBN

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 2! ?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kawaisa:
That's the one. Provides enough drop protection but you might want to grab one of their more durable cases if you treat it very harshly, i.e. slim or tough armor cases.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] randpost:
It is about the same thickness as the Note 3 Neo Hybrid

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I'm not sure. My Note 3 Neo Hybrid survived 4 drops with no harm to my phone. Blacktop/concrete,tile, etc. The plastic band did break in a corner on my 5th drop, but no harm to my phone.

The Note 4 Neo Hybrid has slightly thicker corners, so it may be even stronger.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] borijess:
I have a UAG on my note 2 now. Great case. Is neo hybrid close to the thickness and protection of a UAG case? Just asking cause I got the neo hybrid for 4 bucks off Amazon. Just wondering if it's a good choice.

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 2! ?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kawaisa:
Just got in my Neo Hybrid and the Slim armor, does anyone want comparison photos? I won't bother if there's no interest.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] randpost:
Pictures!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] p()()pypants:
I'd def like to see some. Trying to decide between those two right now!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] randpost:
Corner rubber thickness of the UAG Note 3 case offers better protection than the Neohybrid for the Note 3 (opinion).

I havent seen the Note 4 UAG yet.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] hatchback:
Yes please post some of the Neo Hybrid from the side and front angle pics.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] p()()pypants:
Is there any rubber on the inside of the metal volume rocker and power buttons, or it's it metal on metal to the Note 4?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] randpost:
volume rockers are plastic on the case and soft rubber tipped so scratching the phone rockers.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kawaisa:
I like the white color on the slim armor more than I did on the Note 3 version. That one was just a regular glossy coat. This one is a shimmery matte look to it. It's not glossy but it has a pearlescent sheen to it. Quite nice especially if you're getting the white Note 4. Resembles the white pearl paint job on a new Lexus without the glossy coating. The Slim armor is just a bit thicker/raised as you can see in the photo.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] miked433:
the neo hybrid metal slate looks very nice!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] UCSB:
Thanks for the photos ... I ordered the same two cases (plus a few others) ... it is nice to see they will look great.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] artindallas:
I got the Neo Hybrid today. :cyclops::D:cyclops:
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] borijess:
Pics

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 2! ?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Amd4life:
mine shipped from Amazon on the 30th, still no sign of it and my tracking number has no movement. weird
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] p()()pypants:
Awesome pics! Thank you.

Good job capturing the pearlescent sheen!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] dn3g3l:
debating between the capsule and neo hybrid. i like the looks of the capsule way better, but it seems like the neo hybrid offers a little more protection. anyone have both to compare?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kawaisa:
The capsule is just a TPU case like you'd get from ebay or any other manufacturer. The Neo hybrid is a nicer 2-layer version.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] hatchback:
Placed my order yesterday only to find an email from Spigen "We are sorry to inform you that due to a system error we do need to cancel your order at this time. " They did provide me with a 15% off a future purchase. I got no case and no glass.tr protector. =(
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kawaisa:
did you buy it during a $3.49 sale?
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] hatchback:
No I bought it at $19.99, will try to stay up tonight maybe it shows on amazon.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] p()()pypants:
So because of this thread I not only ordered the metal slate neo hybrid, currently in stock, but I also preordered an electric red slim armor case cause it really is low profile in comparison to a mostly tpu case like the Neo hybrid! But should give some added protection...

Can't wait to get these cases and my phone and see how they feel in hand! Spigen is making some good looking stuff right now!
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] shankolen:
great
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] AssassinsLament:
I ordered the slim armor but received a complimentary pack of screen protectors (crystal), saying they will send the case when they have stock... I'm hoping I didn't get duked since they "shipped" the screen protectors in place of the case. I'm skeptical because I see the slim armor as being in stock on amazon.
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] Kawaisa:
you didn't, don't worry
[Galaxy Note 4 Accessories] East_Coast:
So the neo hybrid is slimmer/less bulky?