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[Windows 8 General] mirchichamu:
I am having Onda 975w and it is charging via micro USB. It is ordinary micro USB like what we are using for smartphones. No other charging terminal. I even tested with another cable and adopter, and it is charging from that also.
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
Stock bios settings Voyo A1 Mini (Z3735F) part 1 of 5

Perhaps there is some potential to optimize performance by tinkering with bios values. I post screenshots from my Voyo A1 Mini bios settings.

NOTE: you can easily brick your device, so don't play with the bios if you haven't got a clue !!
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
Stock bios settings Voyo A1 Mini (Z3735F) part 2 of 5

Part 2 of 5
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
Stock bios settings Voyo A1 Mini (Z3735F) part 3 of 5

Part 3 of 5
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
Stock bios settings Voyo A1 Mini (Z3735F) part 4 of 5

Part 4 of 5
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
Stock bios settings Voyo A1 Mini (Z3735F) part 5 of 5

Part 5 of 5
[Windows 8 General] sikica133:
you could bump the cpu up a bit w proper thermal & power settings, and alocate more video ram, but you wont notice any huge improvements. imo isn't worth it same way bios flashing isn't. risky with these chinese tabs. also tends to heat up under intensive tasks anyways so you might actually burn smth (while i was using Creo Parametric, boy, it got hot :eek:). and besides, it's a tablet with actually a decent performance, at least compared to old C2D/atom & newer amd low power cpus. just reinstall win8, fresh install will do wonders. also it can actually support a 1920x1080 output for 24/7 without heating up. big surprise
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
You're absolutely right. Performance is good. Can you perhaps look up the video settings in your bios?
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
Your D-type performs a little bit better. Could be because of a different bios setup. Here are the results of my F-type:

3DMark Score 10844

Graphics Score 10391

Physics Score 12797

Graphics Test 1 46.56 fps

Graphics Test 2 43.88 fps

Physics Test 40.63 fp
[Windows 8 General] reggiexp:
Yeah thats what i tought. 2-4 fps differnce in 3D games

There are some differences in the 2 versions but you can't find see it. You need to look at deep specs and than i don't even know what it all days but the D version has higher number and more options. I tried to understand but pff was like what ever. Its fine.
[Windows 8 General] sikica133:
don't have it with me atm, however, I'm prety much on default setting except for dedicated video ram, which is set to 32MB(512MB is default)
[Windows 8 General] Buggster:
It's not about speed. It's about quality. One got the leather, stereo, better cooling and suspension and some more options.

The other one is barebone and runs at max to keep up, and really not cheaper, same western price.

True, most will not use all the functions. Neather do iPhone users. Still, we need to be vigilant.
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
I tuned two settings in bios and could raise the bar. Here are the 3dmark ice storm benchmark results of my F-type. As could be expected they are close to identical with the D-type:

3DMark Score 11460

Graphics Score 11092

Physics Score 12968

Graphics Test 1 49.32 fps

Graphics Test 2 47.18 fps

Physics Test 41.17 fps
[Windows 8 General] reggiexp:
Ah cool will buy it tomorow i wanted to wait to see if it will get cheaper. Or not. Realy am in a mood to buy something.

Even maybe gonna get a lg g watch for 50euro from my oncle if he aint going to be a ***** about it. He can buy it with a lg g3 32gb for like 50euro - 20euro coupon so he will win like 15euro on it.

A lg g3 32gb is 406euro alone and with watch 458.

I feel like buying sh!t
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
In the past 2 months the price went down by 15%. My seller sells it now for about 94 EUR.
[Windows 8 General] sikica133:
F version 143.99$

D version 164.49$

F version, even with extra discounts seems expensive. I bought D version for 148$, around the time they were first sold
[Windows 8 General] lectobud:
Hi could anyone who owns this tablet tell me if it supports 5Ghz Wi-Fi? Been looking everywhere but I can't find it mentioned.

Thanks
[Windows 8 General] reggiexp:
94euro where?
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
AliExpress, seller called Oriontech. Price 117,50$ "mobile deal only" , so you must order using the AliExpress app.
[Windows 8 General] reggiexp:
Trusted seller?

You bought it from him?

Found him yeah 94euro. 3dollar shiping. Around same time shiping 15-30days.

3dollar is like 1.50euro. So 96euro. Yeah thats 10euro cheaper than gearbest but i dont realy like aliexpress bmfor big buys things
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
Do your research and you will see Oriontech is top trusted seller. I bought one 2 months ago and it took 24 days to deliver by Singpost. I prefer AliExpress now because of buyer protection.
[Windows 8 General] reggiexp:
Hallo

Signapore post is 15-60days. Thats a bit long. I know i wont take 60days but still. Normal one takes 15-30days
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
Then you should select DHL. Just contact Michael from Oriontech directly. That guy is very good.
[Windows 8 General] reggiexp:
Yeah but dhl is expensive.

I dont mind the 15-30days wait. With the stock selected shiping thing.

Dhl is like 30dollars. Im greedy.

But thanks any way dude. I think i will buy if of that guy than. 10euro cheaper is good.
[Windows 8 General] nips:
No 5Ghz!
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
I believe we should try to find out how to increase max cpu clock frequency. This is the bios cpu info screen of my Voyo F-type. The cpu info suggests the turboclock speed is only 1.33GHz. Actually the turbo speed of the z3735 is 1.83 GHz. Perhaps it is possible to manipulate cpu clock registers to increase the turbo speed.

EDIT: the cpu info screen doesn't reflect the truth. I just checked with CPU-Z and the clock speed went up to 1833MHz when I opened calc to calculate 88888!
[Windows 8 General] sikica133:
good luck doing that even on a regular laptop

also turbo boost <> max rated cpu clock. it doesn't even work the same. essentially if you ramp up the clock @ 1.8, you'll be using only 2 cores, whereas @ 1.33 you'll be using 4, or @ 1.53 3cores.

turbo boost basically disables, or rather switches unused cores to low power state, while allowing max power to the remaining ones, and all that within designated TDP.

even if you somehow crack Intel/AMI's coding and implement overclock option in bios, you'd have to disable turbo boost, speedstep and power safety protocols, and overclock your cpu manually to max rated frequency-old school

and by doing so, you'll burn your chip. no way to cool this puppy, no coolers here. max speed and no cooling = dead cpu&board
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
Started to realize that after running CPU-Z. Nevertheless I want to get a better understanding of all bios configuration options and then see what can be tuned. Apparently the Dell Venue 8 performs about 30% better in 3dmark, and although it has a z3740d, I can't believe it is just that.

Once you have access to your voyo d-type please compare your bios settings with my stock settings posted earlier. Thx!
[Windows 8 General] sikica133:
that's plausible since 3d mark is generally a graphics test, not a cpu test (they do have some cpu bench's though) and 3740D has around 10% faster gpu clock speed

although 30% seems a bit fishy... imo 20% max, or their gpu has more execution units than intel claims
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
My Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 8 has a z3770 and 3dmark results are almost same as the voyo and that's pretty weird. Seems like a crippled firmware or maybe Lenovo is capping performance for whatever reason, e.g. marketing.
[Windows 8 General] angrysandwich:
Hi Gents,

I have a "D" Voyo A1 Mini, running BIOS version 5.008 and EC Version 201401101A - I've read through this entire thread and was wondering if any of you would know if there are updates to either the BIOS or EC available. I noticed the two Russian links for the EC but it is unclear to me which I would use or by what method to perform the update. Welcome any advice.
[Windows 8 General] sikica133:
I've had Asus T100t with z3770 for two weeks, and overall performance seemd much better imo, as it should be. If I recall, it scores over 12k on Ice storm, so I'm guessing you have some extreme savings going on in your tab's bios. +gpu is clocked higher, aswell as cpu, the only downside is 1066-LPDDR3 compared to our 1333.

oh and btw

ThinkPad 8	HD Graphics (Bay Trail)	2048 MB	311 - 667 MHz / MHz	10.18.10.3341	12198

bios or drivers, that's the prob

check the thread on slate droid... if you don't mind going through chinese, you can find official update procedure + bios there

http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/106882-voyo-a1-mini-general-specs-and-info/
[Windows 8 General] reggiexp:
[MENTION=4955438]sikica133[/MENTION]

Yeah but dual channel. So your gpu is slightly faster. Cause its ram it faster.

And yeah the z3775 is good. But expensiver.
[Windows 8 General] angrysandwich:
Latest?

Thanks Sikica, the trouble I am having is determining if Bios 5.008 and EC 201401101A is actually the latest versions - i.e. maybe I already have the latest, as I just got the "D" Voyo A1 Mini this week.

Cheers and thanks in advance.
[Windows 8 General] sikica133:
true, to both. doubt there's any benefit to overall performance, just the gpu, yeah.

same version I have, so I'm guessing that's the old one. however if you don't have any issues, I'd advise not to flash bios in general
[Windows 8 General] reggiexp:
[MENTION=487710]jockyw2001[/MENTION]

just calculate it will cost me in total with import tax included 133€

with DHL shipping

or 115€ (but without tax if i get lucky 96.5euro thats like 30€+ euro cheaper.)total with airmail/signaport shiping and tax included.

hum. don't know if i want it fast or if i wanna be a gready bastard...

I think im going for the dhl. 133euro is still find with me. Ordered it. 111euro. Dhl. Can't wait get it
[Windows 8 General] Downstar:
Received the USB to 2.5mm jack cable yesterday, worked fine with the Xiaomi Powerbank and the Voyo A1 mini F-version :)
[Windows 8 General] reggiexp:
Any one recommend a bluetooth keybaord or case? A good one?

Found some good mouses but can't find any 8" keyaboed cases. Find 7" but no 8" i mean for less than 30euro

Ow and 64gb sd cards work fine?
[Windows 8 General] sikica133:
mine works, can't tell if it works on F though

depends on the case you're looking for. I bought universal one (for all 8" tabs including ipads, note 8 etc.) w bluetooth keyboard for less than 21$ on ebay(ships from uk)
[Windows 8 General] reggiexp:
Yeah my problem is the keyboard language.

I live if france. But on my phone i use a qwerty keyboard.

That is the virtual keyboards. But physique ones i use the french azerty (on my pc) now my problems is on thr tablet im gonna put a virtual qwerty keybaord. But i don't know if im going for a qwerty bluetooth keyboard or french azerty... A bit anoying stupid French witht there wierd keyboard.
[Windows 8 General] jockyw2001:
Sandisk class10 32, 64 and 128GB microSDs work fine in my Voyo F-type
[Windows 8 General] reggiexp:
Samsung or scandisk 64gb sdXC? Things. Thats cool to know

Cause 64gb cards are not that expensive.
[Windows 8 General] sikica133:
not sure if you read all those bios posts, but since I had some time, I went through them

seems there was no bios update so far, only EC updates, or to be precise battery/charging bug fixes from both voyo and "concerned users" - that's why all bios versions have the sam version numbers. as far as I can tell, ec updates are pointless to flash unless you have issues like long charging time/sudden battery % drops, so no bios for us
[Windows 8 General] angrysandwich:
I actually performed all the Voyo Chinese website updates, including the sept windows 8.1 image that I obtained from geekbuying.net; the EC update I believe was no actual version change but I did it anyhow. Just setting it up now with the sept build. I did have sudden and inaccurate battery percentages reported in windows, so hoping this will remedy. But you're right Sikica, none of these were a core bios update.
[Windows 8 General] rulizz:
Any major flaws of this tablet? how is the battery life? how long does it take to full charge it?
[Windows 8 General] reggiexp:
F*ck i tought dhl would be fast lol.

Still can't track my package. So i have no idea where it is. And when i will get it. Normaly should be around Christmas.

Im so impatient. Damn
[Windows 8 General] sikica133:
DHL is actually rather slow, at least from my experience. took them 9 days to deliever a package within EU, whereas I recieved my tab from China in 14. also, it's Christmas, there will be some delay
[Windows 8 General] reggiexp:
Yeah at least i tried once. Normaly i dont go with dhl way to expensive. But tought almost Christmas so if i choos free delivery its gonna take a while... But yeah 17euro to get the package sure befor 2weeks or pay nothing and hmget it a bit later than 2weeks.

No dhl for me anymore. Just got a sms. 31euro delivery cost from douane yeah right. But okay still cheap but damn. Ass hol es. 10euro to prepay your import duty thing. Wtf. Normaly it was 19euro tax. Plus 10euro what dhl ask for the advance of the tax. And 2euro files things.

So at the end 145 euro... Not realy what i wanted... Pff never should had chosen dhl for shiping... Pff fuc ked up

But i have a tablet and im thinking of selling it. So i dont lose money on it. It was jist a try. But dhl focked it up with the high price...
[Windows 8 General] Racoski:
Boot & USB problems - Voyo A1 Mini

I've setted up the Voyo BIOS > USB EHCI enabled and xHCI enabled too. First boot UEFI USB Disk storage (with ubuntu, not loading), and second boot, EFI Shell. But now... The usb keyboard is not recognized, and I can't exit from the EFI Shell. What I have to do?
[Windows 8 General] AfXv237:
Is this Voyo A1 mini better than Teclast X80h or PIPO W2F? Can anyone help me out? Which is the best from these 3?
[Windows 8 General] mirchichamu:
Generally Teclast is considered better than others.
[Windows 8 General] paul89rulez:
installed windows 10 tecnical, all ok, installed all drivers (many thanks Esbow), but i had bad rotation (landscape inverted) and death sleep (if you put your tab to sleep mode, you have to manually reboot because it wont wake up). Installed back windows 8.1 (wanna try with wimboot as my usb hub arrives), the problem is that i have bad rotation again. Installed Esbow slatedroid gsensor drivers :| In rotation i have landscape inverted selected, but i cant figure how to make it work. Any advice?
[Windows 8 General] xxLeoxx93:
you can try this driver: http://www.mediafire.com/download/por3r2dbpmt0j2c/kxsensors-win8-x86-dbg-20140204-1.exe

It solved the problem with the wrong rotation on some of my other tablets.
[Windows 8 General] paul89rulez:
Thanks, but i cant figure out now why it freezes even in windows 8... after some, in deep sleep or not, my voyo freeze up and i have only to restart it. Any fix?
[Windows 8 General] sirhaxalot:
rotation and sleepmode

I can confirm this as well, as well as the rotation issue, i will try the driver mentioned above.
[Windows 8 General] xxLeoxx93:
This could be related to a bug with the Intel Atom family and their TXE-Module which can cause such things.

My Schenker Element with Intel Atom CPU has the same problems. You can try to disable the System encyption and aftrer that disable the TXE Module in the bios.

But I would not try this on the voyo A1 mini because there is "no" way to reset the bios if you mess something up there.

Another reason cout be the temprature. You should have a look into the event protocol from windows. Mybe you can find the reason there.
[Windows 8 General] sirhaxalot:
Hello, i failed to mention i reinstalled windows 8.1 because i had problems with installing Framework 3.5

so the image i reloaded win8 with is not the factory image.

after this i got the rotation problem and sleep of death.

I have tried different drivers for the rotation issues nd they are not working at all.

I dont have any heat issues with the device, if i turn off sleep mode i have no problem operating the device fo many hours.

As for the sleep of death, i think it is better just to find a clean and good factory image to reinstall, but i have not found one yet for the Voyo A1 mini.

I used this source for reinstalling, using the image provided in the first post

http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/106914-windows-81-restore-partition-from-usb/

I have a feeling the original image and drivers have patches or are modified for the device to work properly.

So i will be hunting for a factory image, if anyone knows of any image that is functional, i would greatly appreciate if you could share it here. :)
[Windows 8 General] xxLeoxx93:
Voyo got some donwloads on their page, but now the page seems to be empty. Mybe someone already downloaded the files an can upload them.
[Windows 8 General] sirhaxalot:
yeah, i was hoping the same. i have sent a email to voyo asking for the original image, hope they will answer :)

since last post i have tried 3 images i have found that has been uploaded on different locations, i find different issues with them that im not able to solve after the installation.

If i get a link from them i will post it in this thread
[Windows 8 General] reggiexp:
hey any one any good cases? like ones with stand that fit this tablet? can't realy find the one i want. maybe you guys know any?
[Windows 8 General] sirhaxalot:
Rotation fix for Kionix device on Voyo A1 mini after fresh install

finally managed to fix the rotation problem that has been making me mad for the couple of days.

Dowload this pack and run the installer, restart then run reg file 1, restart then 2 if 1 didnt work, etc.

LINK - rotation fix

SOURCE - includes WIM images and drivers for making your Voyo fully operational.

:D
[Windows 8 General] Neeronn:
charging

Hi

Yesterday I got my voyo tablet. But it got delivered without a charger. So after the battery went empty i drove to a local electro store.

I tried a charger and the blue led turned on, but i couldnt turn the tablet on, when pressing the powerbutton nothing happened. I waited a minute and stil nothing happened. Could it be that it first needs to charge a while before it can be turned on?

Thanks in advance (sorry for the bad english its not my native language)
[Windows 8 General] xxLeoxx93:
I hope you plugged in a charger with the right voltage.

Tepending on which version you have, you need a 5V or 9V charger. If you use a wrong charger you can destroy the tablet!
[Windows 8 General] Neeronn:
I have a 5V one . The adapter could be configured from 3V upto 12V. I did put it on 5V so thats not the problem.
[Windows 8 General] xxLeoxx93:
Then let the tablet charge over night and have a look again.
[Windows 8 General] sikica133:
just curious, which version do you have? never had such issues. sure, sometimes it takes ~2-5s more to wake, but it never froze like that

thinking of buying another F-based one, but if they are so buggy, well...
[Windows 8 General] xxLeoxx93:
I'll get my Teclast x80h soon - I'll report back when it arrive :)
[Windows 8 General] paul89rulez:
the bug is caused by kinoxis sensor in custom windows 8.1 installation. I have F version, and with stock Windows 8.1 that comes with tablet, i have good performance and huge battery perfomance.
[Windows 8 General] newtongeek:
Hi there , another user of the voyo version F , a few days ago i reinstalled the system and deleted the recovery partition , found the drivers of the tablet on slatedroid and except for the audio , everything its working fin , but i have a problem ( the same of the other users) when the tablet goes to sleep for more thant 30 seconds , it does not wake up i need to press the power button until the tablet restarts , anybody knows why this happen and what could be a possible solution? thanks.
[Windows 8 General] paul89rulez:
Try unistall camera and sensor
[Windows 8 General] Milmed:
Hi guys. I'd this maybe the z3735D version? I would really love to buy the d version, seems to be much better than f... Merimobiles has it for like 160 usd
[Windows 8 General] xxLeoxx93:
Try to get a Teclast x80h. I've both devices, and the teclast fells much better in many ways ;)
[Windows 8 General] Milmed:
Shouldn't I prefer z3735d instead of f?I thought d version is way better. And one more thing, I would like to use it as a regular pc,that is hdmi and otg at the same time it charges. Can I do that with teclast x80h? Can I charge and have otg at the same time? That is the main reason I want voyo. Thanks in advance.
[Windows 8 General] xxLeoxx93:
Actually I haven't tried that yet. But this cable could maybe do that: http://www.amazon.com/Micro-Cable-Power-Samsung-AtomicMarket/dp/B009YPYORM

Seems to work with the Teclast x98 Air: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCsBK14wH6U

But to be sure you'll have to ask here: http://xdaforums.com/windows-8-rt/general/teclast-x80h-8-dual-os-chinese-tablet-t2996314
[Windows 8 General] Milmed:
What about the cpu. Isn't there a difference?
[Windows 8 General] xxLeoxx93:
I don't recognize a diffrenz between both cpus, but I'm not using the tablets for gaming, so I can't tell if there is any diffrence.

If you want to get things done and work with the tablet there is no diffrence. if you want to play games etc. I would take a ARM based tablet with Mediatek/Rockchip etc. cpu.
[Windows 8 General] Milmed:
So you have both cpu tablets?
[Windows 8 General] xxLeoxx93:
I've a Schenker Element with the D Version, a (now broken) Voyo A1 with F version (I messed up the bios...) and now a Teclast x80h, F Version.
[Windows 8 General] Milmed:
I know I am asking too much, but could you give us some more examples as to why teclast x80h is better? Sorry for the repeating questions, I just want to learn a thing or two from someone who ACTUALLY HAS a Windows tablet (well,3)
[Windows 8 General] xxLeoxx93:
You can read more about the Teclast x80h here: http://xdaforums.com/windows-8-rt/general/teclast-x80h-8-dual-os-chinese-tablet-t2996314

You just have to know what you need:

extra port for charging while using the USB OTG function -> Voyo A1 mini

better touchscreen, better feel (metal case and a bit thinner) -> Teclast x80h
[Windows 8 General] Milmed:
Thank you very much for your time. I think I will buy ainol inovo 8,seems a good choice.
[Windows 8 General] sex:
hello everyone !

I having problems with the drivers of the camera it seems that is enabling the signature protection for not

signed drivers ! dose any has a solution for this strange problem ?
[Windows 8 General] Tillertow:
So, i got one of these tablets a few days ago.

Being a plastic tablet it does creek a bit, but is a good buy for the price ($100), and performs very well.

However, i wanted to install windows 10 9926 on it, but the installer "told me" that it couldn't install because the current OS is compressed (wimboot?).

Can i in theory boot from the usb install, format and install the uncompressed version?

or would it simply use too much space?

I have a SD card on the way, so i'd use that for apps and stuff.
[Windows 8 General] Tillertow:
Solved
[Windows 8 General] Tillertow:
great, a windows 8.1 reinstall and now the camera doesn't work anymore...this is why i slap myself every time i buy an unknown brand product, that only works with specific/custom drivers. (i tried all the ones that have been posted)