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[Xperia Z3 General] jonmorris:
Let's hope we don't get people defending the camera overheating by saying people are using it wrong, as that's only for the Apple fanboys to defend against phones that bend, lose signal, have camera issues of their own etc.

I got my Z3 extra hot just taking a few simple photos of a new Android tablet at an event, where the only thing I'd done was turn on the LED in 'torch' mode to aid photo taking (without the flash reflecting on the display). After just a few shots, up popped the warning, a new icon I've never seen before - and the phone was getting real hot.

BUT, I should point out that I quit the camera for a short while and it was fine after. It never DID shut down the camera, but it came rather close.

I suspect that on a very hot, humid day outdoors with the phone in the sun it probably won't take much for all things combined to cause problems, and I wasn't even doing normal video, let alone 4K.
[Xperia Z3 General] androidkid311:
Hmmmmm... I'll hold out with the Z3 then. I'm not keen on this overheating problem. Shame really
[Xperia Z3 General] naukhaiz:
Every device gets hot. Yes camera and phone will get hot if you keep it on for half an hour, which never happens in a normal persons life. I am using the phone in dubai and the hot outdoor environment had been very challanging for z2 users. But z3 has been performing consistantly without any overheating problem whatsoever. Majority of people hardly use camera for more than 3 minutes at a time. If you aim at using z3 for recording hour long videos, you cannot speak for the majority of users here too.
[Xperia Z3 General] viking2.0:
Took about 100 pics and videos over 2 hour period. Phone got a little hot but that's expected and my s4 would also get hot if I took so many but I didn't get any camera shut down or warnings. I didn't record videos in 4k but I used the time shift video and other modes
[Xperia Z3 General] shook187:
The more I read about this phone the more I'm thinking I'm going to hold off on buying it... It appears this phone is loaded with corky things and issues that's making me think twice.
[Xperia Z3 General] rushless:
Is the Z3 waterproof? There would be part of the problem. The heat has nowhere to go, but through the display area mainly and festers inside. Charging at the same time would exacerbate this. The 801 is a pretty peppy chip for 28nm already, so a perfect storm for heat build-up. Probably another reason Sony did not opt for a Qhd display. Toasty!
[Xperia Z3 General] viking2.0:
I meant warm not hot. My s4 would also get that warm when used a lot. It doesn't bother me
[Xperia Z3 General] ipmanwck:
Lol slower at shooting camera shots? Try timeshift burst then let me know if 60 pics in a split second is fast enough.)
[Xperia Z3 General] sanakin:
4k Z3

I recorded video in 4K with the hard case for 29.34 minutes on sd 128gb / 96 / s write with no problem recording another 13 minutes with the message that the phone is overheating, after Dike has been the only stop recording .. Z3 ... rooted! Excellent quality!

Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 3840x2160 29.97fps 54998kbps [V: VideoHandle [eng] (h264 high L5.1, yuv420p, 3840x2160, 54998 kb/s)]

Audio: AAC 48000Hz stereo 154kbps [A: SoundHandle
[Xperia Z3 General] 3Shirts:
Yes it is. Actually, good point, if it gets hot just dunk it in some ice water, sorted.
[Xperia Z3 General] tel033:
Actually the sudden change in temperature could Crack your screen
[Xperia Z3 General] 3Shirts:
Yeah, I was mostly joking
[Xperia Z3 General] stiffi2011:
Oh man, I had to log in just to reply to this. Yes phones get hot , but all phones DO NOT overheat.

I took my Galaxy S5 to Disney World in August. It was 98 degrees outside with 100% humidity. I was Recording video from my Sony QX100 for 15 minutes, without problems. This means, Wifi was on, plus LTE, with the display cranked up to 100% so I could see the screen in Noon sun. Again, no overheating whatsoever.

Meanwhile my brother's Iphone 5C was constantly shutting down because of overheating.

I love the Z2 but sold it because I'm worried about this problem. It gets hot during nominal tasks. The main reason I wanted it was for remote play, but I can't even imagine how much heat that would generate (haven't tried it yet).
[Xperia Z3 General] tel033:
My friends s5 is usually hot in stand by so...
[Xperia Z3 General] stiffi2011:
So what? Hot, or actually overheating and giving warning messages/shutting down. I never saw the latter on the S5
[Xperia Z3 General] subhani:
In all due respect, I found that OEMS give warning pop ups and shut it down to preserve the internal hardware from degrading due to exposure to high temps. Samsung doesn't do this under most strain situations but still gets equally hot. I have found that in recording 4k video however, even Samsungs overheat and shut the apps off. ALL mobiles do.

I reckon that plastic IS better than glass and metal at NOT conducting high temperatures.

Sent using a Z3 via Tapatalk. Hit THANKS if I helped, cheers!
[Xperia Z3 General] 107bird107:
this guy is playing while charging
[Xperia Z3 General] :
I honestly got the overheating problem on the first day when I got the phone. The main reason was that location, maximum brightness, NFC and other major stuff were turned on by default and because the phone was in direct sunlight. And I was even running 4G LTE downloading many apps from the play store. But now its been few weeks and I never faced the overheating problem. I have maximum brightness, auto sync, mobile data and other stuff on. 4K recording can be done without any issue. Phone is at normal temperature every time I check. No issues at all.
[Xperia Z3 General] ircghost:
Overheated even until the motherboard is burnt

I bought a Z3 Mini for my wife on Dec 2014 and told her it was her advanced valentine day present for next year.. and before Valentine came.. the phone was in the Sony service center. Was really a disappointment for me.

She has been playing alot of games since she gotten that phone and mostly she plays simcity. And before she knew it , one fine day in the office.. she just couldn't get the phone to power ON anymore. We just got back the phone today and the support person told us they had to replace a new motherboard.

I was worried that being a phone that small, it would have issues dissipating the heat built up efficiently as they were using plastic or glass component for the body which might not be that good for heat reduction during prolonged use.

I'm gonna reduce the cpu processing speed of the phone to 1.5Ghz and reduce the core voltage as well once i get the chance. It's a good phone but i wished they would have put more thought into the design of the phone to resolve this issue.
[Xperia Z3 General] abhaykelkar:
Planning to buy z3 but this thread made think again and so asking this.

I do know that every smartphone catches some heat (or gets warm) while charging, while playing games, while video shooting (non-4k) which is fair until it cools down when stop doing these activities.

I also understand that not everyone is facing OVERHEATING problem apart from 4k video recording. Reason could be they are not using the phone as compared to others OR they have tweaked something by rooting OR they are just very lucky ...no offense to anyone.

So, those who are facing this problem, did you try resetting phone using PC Companion, many other websites suggested this?

Are you facing the same heating pattern after lollipop update?

Surprisingly, popular smartphone review websites such as gsmarena hasn't mentioned about this problem :)
[Xperia Z3 General] :
Never ''try'' a phone in the store.

Most of the stores have test phones, with lower specs, the original in the box is different.
[Xperia Z3 General] jonmorris:
That is totally untrue. The only difference might be a custom ROM, or a special demo mode (I believe you can use a command to turn this on any Xperia phone yourself) but otherwise they're identical.

Trading standards might have a thing or two to say otherwise.
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
That statement is almost never true..... As I can't say never.

No company in their right mind would do that, (lower spec than original) point of phones in stores are to be tried and they are the actual full featured model you would use...
[Xperia Z3 General] water275:
For me, I can take 4k video about 5 minutes and my phone is running normal
[Xperia Z3 General] killed:
My phone with Lollipop not only capture a photo but also record a film. All hot :(
[Xperia Z3 General] xavierlangevin1:
im getting 97C in recovery when doing a backup ! on 23.1.0.726 w/ AndroPlusKernel v53
[Xperia Z3 General] Eason85:
Here in Thailand the phone will overheat simply being used for normal tasks when it's sunny. My White z3c (RIP) would get warm but never hot. My Z3 frequently will autodim the screen to super dark when I'm using it while tanning, etc.
[Xperia Z3 General] kanej2006:
WTF? I get a MAXIMUM of 60C in recovery...

It seems difference people are getting different temperatures, unfortunately...

Otherwise my average temperature is around 50C.
[Xperia Z3 General] scribbclubber:
Did someone experienced overheating issue while playing games such as 8 pool ?

Sent from my D6653
[Xperia Z3 General] pchetan2:
no ...but after using camera for a while ,my device over heats ....
[Xperia Z3 General] scribbclubber:
Same for me while using camera for long or even when using creative effects etc..

Played the same game on iPhone 6 and the phone didn't heat at all even after 45min of gaming but on my z3, 10mins and started to heat :confused:

Sent from my D6653
[Xperia Z3 General] LitoNi:
Nothing wrong with the phone, it's the materials used to construct the device. Glass has poorer heat dispersion than metal. Also, the s801 can be not as good as the A6/7. It is quad core compared to dual. :/
[Xperia Z3 General] Macianer:
Dual Core is better than a Quad Core?
[Xperia Z3 General] cha_kumar:
is the issue still seen with lollipop update?
[Xperia Z3 General] nedooo:
Yup.
[Xperia Z3 General] kanej2006:
It's only better if the cores are of a higher value.

Example a dual core 2.7ghz is better than a quad core 2.2ghz...

Example two. a dual core 2.2ghz is worse than a 2.7ghz quad core.

Most applications including games still only use one or two cores. This means having more than two cores are useless as they are not being used...

Other case scenario. Lower clocked quad cores even if having a lower clock ratio than a dual core can be better should an application support more than two cores. In this case, you will benefit from 4 cores instead of two. I hope you understand.

Personally, I'd rather have a 3.0Ghz dual core phone than a quad/hexacore phone having a lower core value than will never get used!

Quad core processors and greater will only be beneficial in the future when they are fully supported.

The same can be said about desktop cpu's. Once upon a time, dual cores were popular and the cores were fully utilized.

Quad cores shortly came out and were not as good as dual cores as they other two cores were not used.

After some times, most applications started to use 4 and more cores. It was until then quad cores were better and offered double the performance and more than a dual, if overclocked than it!!!

As a desktop user, I have an i7 2600k quad core cpu having 4 cores and 8 threads (with hyperthreading enabled ) .

By default, it runs at 3.4GHz. With some tweaking of the bios settings in the motherboard, such as increasing voltage, multipliers and other values, I'm able to get a stable overclock of 4.7Ghz per core! For gaming and bench marking, this is where overclocking makes a difference. Of course you need adequate cooling otherwise you'll fry your cpu...

A decent air cooler will be fine or if you wanna go hardcore, go for liquid cooling!!!
[Xperia Z3 General] nedooo:
[MENTION=897781]kanej2006[/MENTION]

Not true.

To put it short to your long post.

CPU has so so many parameters and just to scale them them down to clock speed is absurd...

Apple Dual-core 1.4 GHz Cyclone is better then Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 Quad Core Krait 400 2.5 GHz...

Also the GPU is far more powerfull...

But the price and 1 GB RAM is a no go for me...
[Xperia Z3 General] kanej2006:
It may be better in some aspects but not in all...
[Xperia Z3 General] bsrodrigues:
I do feel the phone really heating up in my hands sometimes, but it never got to point of this error message.

I don't think this is a reason not to but this phone.
[Xperia Z3 General] Pandemic:
It is normal of the phone heats a little bit up due the quadcore, even htc and samsung have that, but keep in mind dont use your phone as a playstation 4 !
[Xperia Z3 General] Asgaro:
Can anyone try emulators?

More specifically, GameBoy emulators.

I would like to know:

- whether it seriously heats up or not? (eg. while playing Pokémon Yellow or Silver)

- if a warning were to pop up, after how much time does it pop up?

Thanks! :)
[Xperia Z3 General] Incanity:
I play alot of heavy games and emulators (also gameboy) on my Z3. Never have I experienced any overheating.

Sure, it get's warm, but never too hot to hold.

Just don't try to game heavily while sitting in direct sunlight. That makes it heat up more.

other than that, no worries.
[Xperia Z3 General] nedooo:
A bit of gaming :)
[Xperia Z3 General] Blescik:
My record is 82 Celsius in twrp when I do backup and phone is fine.

Swypniete z Xperii Z3
[Xperia Z3 General] nedooo:
Holy smoke :)
[Xperia Z3 General] The-Nazgul:
I got my Z3 about 8 months ago and never experienced overheating.
[Xperia Z3 General] nedooo:
Let me educate you a bit.

As soon as SOC thermal thottling kicks in, well it is starting to overheat by manufacturer parameters...

So if you don't use Z3 for more then like 5-10 minutes with low brightness it will not "overheat" but anything that is considered power usage...max brightness...3D games will make it "overheat"...
[Xperia Z3 General] LitoNi:
if you put it that way, then all smartphones overheat. I dont think ive ever played a smartphone that doesnt overheat with above 50% brightness and moderate-intense usage.

I used to own the original Z few months ago, and coming from that, the Z3 is doing amazingly well in dealing with the heat. I would only say that on the Z, the temperature rises rapidly under minor to moderate usage, even just browsing the web or playing a single game for 5 mins with under 50% brightness the device hits 4x Celsius in a short period of time. Whereas on the Z3, same game and brightness it maintains below 40 celsius, averages to 35 celsius depending where i am located.

I think it is still too early to determine that the Z3+/4 overheats, there are some people who claims the device do not and some do, but im sure some of those users do not fully understand the definition of overheating. All electronics' temp rises under intense usage and its normal. One thing i would claim is that the S810 may cause the temp to rise more rapidly than its predecessors, which is not necessarily overheating.
[Xperia Z3 General] nedooo:
Ok let me try to simplify this matter...

Ok, imagine you have a car it and it heats when it is running, right? But it is called working temperature and it preserves it with cooling mechanisms to preserve it.

Also all electronic devices produces heat when they work, ok?

Now imagine car or any electronic device starts to thottle its performance in order to preserve working temperature, would you consider that specific device "overheats"?

So that is what I mean when I say overheat.

Reaching over working temperature = overheats.

And if all phones after Nokia 3310 overheat, they simply overheat and we can't consider it is normal state, they reach abnormal temperature so they start to work abnormal in order to try to preserve itself from total destruction...

We can call different but they simply overheats.

Edit: so you say Z reaches four times temperature in short period well it idles arround 30 celsius an 4*30 is 120 celsius meltdown...and Z3 is under 40 mostly 35 celsius?!? So you are joking ha ha ha...thanks for giving us laugh...
[Xperia Z3 General] LitoNi:
4x is not 4 multiply/times the Celsius, 4x where x means nth of number >.> dont make a fool out of yourself. anyway im not here to argue with you.

with your explanation, i would agree with you of what the definition of overheating is.

but seriously, the Z3 S801 AC does not overheat, who ever claims it overheats is ridiculous, if you dont believe me then go and use a Z or a older gen. phone and tell me is that thing overheating.

Just found a video of the Z3+/4, you can call it overheating or not, the temp raises at a faster pace than S805/01.

[YOUTUBE]watch?v=GiMU7o0vlqk[/YOUTUBE]
[Xperia Z3 General] dizzyman44:
Indeed, Sony needs to resolve this issue. My phone gets overheating insanely when I take pictures outdoor, especially in summer.
[Xperia Z3 General] nedooo:
It won't happen, only with serious SOC thottling...and I can't call that solution...

It is as it is for the time being, only Samsung is implementing 14 nm transistor process (helps better processing with less power, meaning it can lower temperature), Intel, Apple and Qualcomm should reach it before the end of year.

And since computing power is more less enough, next step is lower working temperatures and better battery life...both achieved with improving transistor manufacturing process...or maybe some new stuff in near future we are not aware of...so at this time being, 10nm we salute you :)
[Xperia Z3 General] D.Shadocx:
I got the same temperature on my Z3 while gaming. :)

---------- Post added at 04:31 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:27 AM ----------

I think Apple processors has L3 Cache, but I'm not sure.
[Xperia Z3 General] LitoNi:
max brightness, LTE, gaming and browsing after awhile, battery temperature reached to 42+ Celsius, shown on the bottom right corner and CPU temp as shown below

seems fine to me
[Xperia Z3 General] abhinav.tella:
To those who think more Mhz is always better:

An A57 core will outperform an equally clocked A15 (S801). Only reason this currently is not happening in long tests is that the S810 throttles too much just to maintain thermal limits to the point where it can even underperform.

Another example:

The Pentium 4 (NetBurst Architecture) was created on the belief that most people (public) think higher Mhz is better, so people will buy higher Mhz CPUs (I was also guilty of this at one point), so they could better compete with AMD, P4s were actually worse than the P3 and AMD Athlons per mhz. I remember when 2.4 Ghz Athlons ate 3+Ghz P4s alive. Eventually Intel had heat issues reaching 4Ghz and went back to a new architecture based on the P3 which led to the Core series for better performance per Mhz....
[Xperia Z3 General] GODISMYCOPILOT:
Did someone that experienced overheating issue try a thermal pad on the cpu?
[Xperia Z3 General] Juvenile89:
My xperia Z3

I have this device since september and no problem in overheating while making photos, my cpu temperatur in standby is around 30-34 C,and when i play games it's get over 50-60 C,with data mobile active,i guess it's ok,the problem is the back glass cover when i touch it its moving,hope will not separates :-s
[Xperia Z3 General] Victimov8:
Really late to the conversation, but I have only once seen the overheating warning - In a Hydrotherapy place, so lots of humidity and temperatures about 30c. That was only taking about 15 stills. Samsung S6 managed to take about 30 photos, with no issues.
[Xperia Z3 General] Dandgqro:
4k has a Phd when it comes to heating the devices, I had my old note 3 and heat up so fast when shooting 4k and after when you press the stop button to stop filming the post process was slowwwww, now with my z3 4k shoots fast, it overheated a little bit more than the note 3, then I downgraded from android lp 5.1.1 to 5.0.2 and problem solved, heating is not an issue anymore.

And no post processing time after shooting.

Heating is a problem recurrent in the xperia z series because of the building of the units, but with the right firmware it shouldn't be an issue.
[Galaxy Ace II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Devel0per95:
how to fix this :

i was in custom cyanogenmod then i get back to stock rom JB 4.1.2 i ahted this rom

want to get back (want to flash CWM )

and i get these everytime :

see the photos bellow ;)
[Galaxy Ace II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tofueatsbread:
Where?
[HTC Desire S] Beershake:
Wifi and Bluetooth stopped working on my S510e few months ago. When I try toggle wifi or bluetooth slider it say "Turning on.." then comes back off. I tried different roms, even stock that I had when I got my device.

Any clues on how to fix this issue?
[HTC Desire S] Beershake:
Bump
[Hardware Hacking General] audiovideot:
hello

we to use tablet 4.3"

and this video input device UVC

to send and broadcast video by USTREAM app.

the problem is that when you use the USTREAM app (and most the other app) you can select only front or back camera. no option to select other device.

how we can do something that when the user select the front camera (or back camera) it's will show the UVC device and not the real camera. i mean to route the front camera to point to the UVC device.

i'm H.W engineer and we don't have any problem to modify the hardware inside but i think it's more S.W issue.

thanks.!
[Hardware Hacking General] andyzhengster:
You can apk "cameraFi"

it can let external uvc device to broadcast into Youtube live, facebook live, ustream

uvc device ( uvc grabber card or uvc webcam: logitech c310...) ->>OTG line ->> android ->> broadcast into youtube, facebook, ustream...

eg:

1. UVC CVBS GRABBER CARD

it can let CVBS signal become uvc like and broadcast into youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U48_posCCkg

2. UVC HDMI GRABBER CARD

it can let hdmi signal become uvc like and broadcast into youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzblwlcLBS8

3. UVC SDI GRABBER CARD

it can let sdi signal become uvc like and broadcast into youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znz0gB3IDxA

The more information about external uvc webcam as video source for android broadcaster as below link

http://febon.blogspot.com/2016/06/use-android-phoe-as-super-low-cost.html
[General Questions and Answers] jaymehta:
i rooted xolo a500 and install custom rom then my xolo a500 not booted only stuck at xolo logo so. plz help me to install stock rom phone not connected to pc
[General Questions and Answers] mihirmj29:
My xoloA500 also have same problem ..plz help someone
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dr.N@:
hello gays

can anyone port the s5 mini software???
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] busayaphol:
Im sure that u ll find it usefull there

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s3/themes-apps/s5-mini-apps-port-s3-note-2-t2824452

:)
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ieldra:
You can view my old post here to get an idea of my problem http://xdaforums.com/htc-one/general/abysmal-htc-service-t2868185

The mod said I have to ask for SPECIFIC advice so here goes :

I have now been BANNED from posting or commenting on HTC Italia on facebook.

Last I spoke to HTC on the phone, I was given a regional manager for italy and malta who invited me not to call him again because he is a busy man,

I have email HTC's international relations at ir@htc.com at the behest of HTC United States online support, who suggested I email them and that I seek legal action against HTC in italy via a consumer protection agency.

I am trying to pressure HTC to intervene in this issue by posting on their official facebook page (not htc italia, just HTC)

Does anyone have any advice for me ? What should I do ? Should I actually file a claim against HTC Italy ? Or should I wait and see if they cave in from the pressure ?

I am certain that I am legally absolved of all responsibility because HTC chose an uninsured shipping option, therefore the courier did NOT check the integrity of the phone. I have been lied to repeatedly by HTC italy's management therefore speaking to them is not really an option

Help anyone ?