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[X 2014 General] jineshpatel30:
hello guys ! i wanna upgrade to new device

and i'm confused between nexus 5 and moto x(2014) ?

i personally like pure vanilla aosp and this both have almost same though moto has some modification i don't think it will impact badly on performance ( does it? )

i love N5's fast update smooth performance even with some hardware compromises

but on other has moto x have better SD801 , and GUP freq 578 (vs 450 on N5) { will gaming performance be better ? } which in theory make it batter performance so if any anyone here can tell it's really an upgrade or i won't feel anything better

finally i like amoled but read somewhere that amoled pannel on moto x is worst qauily that samsung can make (really ?!!) , othere thing about camera ppl says it's 13MP is not as good as 8MP of N5 !! ( is it right ? ) and moto don't have notification led & OIS ( while taking pictures only does it matter ? )

so need your view should i go for moto X of stick again with relibale N5 ? will moto x be really upgrade ?

and how's lollipop on moto X ? ( i really like lollipop so hoping bug-free )

it will be really helpful if you can answer red marked questions
[X 2014 General] huntish:
Hi,

I have both, Nexus 5 and MotoX 2014, so maybe I can tell you which one should you go for.

1. Display: No match. Moto X takes the game. The AMOLED is beautiful. In front of it, the colors in the LCD of Nexus 5 looks washed out. Specially darker colors like Blue and Dark Red are very much better.

Also, one notable thing is Moto X 2014 has a very good range of brightness. The 0 level brightness is very dark and very suitable for reading at night.

2. Ergonomics: Again to Moto X. The curve is perfect. And even though Moto X has larger screen size, the narrow bezels and curve at the back just makes it perfect.

3. Camera: Nexus 5 camera is better for videos and night shots,because of OIS. Moto X is better in ideal sunny conditions. Flash is better with Moto X.

4. Processor/CPU performance: Moto X never heats up, unlike Nexus 5. SD 800 was a very naive processor. SD 801 is miles ahead of it. Trust me on this. Ps. Moto X is better performer than HTC One M8 and OPO.

5. Others: Moto voice is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy good to get this phone. The front firing speaker is superb. And the moto dimple is a lovely craft addition.

I hope this helped you. :)
[X 2014 General] jineshpatel30:
okey ! :)

what's your thought about moto x lollipop update ? and 16Gb sufficient or should go for 32Gb ...i'm not fan of lot of music and videos in mobile.. i like heavy games
[X 2014 General] vd1900:
I too got mine today will upload the pics soon the device looks good feels very premium I wish it had a micro SD card slot.... 16 gb is too less space as per today's standards specially for a 32k phone
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
Thanks for the picture. Next time please also take few closeups of the back cover. The image shown on flipkart indicates there is leather kind of texture on the plastic back its not visible in your pictures of the actual phone so I think the plastic is plain one.
[X 2014 General] Funkym0nkey:
Back cover on normal black appears smooth. It just feels rubbery. Black leather is different model.
[X 2014 General] udimars30:
i wanted to check how good the speakers and speed it of the moto x compared to the previous htc one and so i made the video.

if you guys liked it please hit that like and sub button.

I'll be making some more comparisons with nexus, xperia z2 (the beast), old moto x, Iphone 5s and Iphone 6.

[YOUTUBE]qnqMVqz_n_k[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]LIbMMV8LF-4[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]J_IW3HD1xLI[/YOUTUBE]
[X 2014 General] tacosrdelicioso:
U shouldn't do WiFi speed tests at the same time.....not going to be even at all and that's why it wasn't
[X 2014 General] Sumit.K:
Case & Screen Guard

Hi Guys :highfive:

I just ordered mine and am looking forward to buy a screen guard for it. Most of them seems that they will cause problems because the edges are curved and these SG's wont stick to them. A tempered glass solution would have been nice but its too early to ask for it. Can you guys recommend a case and a SG? Cheers!
[X 2014 General] Funkym0nkey:
Hi, Wait for couple of days before ordering anything. I have ordered all scratch guards available from ebay. All of them to test out fit and comparability.

The "Scratchgard" branded one is a no go as I mentioned before. Like you said, the edges do not stick and the film peals off as it gets stuck in your pocket fabric while removing the phone from pocket or while placing it in the pocket.

Screenward is out for delivery today. So I will check it out. Hoko and Super are expected tomorrow. Hopefully one of them have made a protector that is slightly smaller and fits the screen properly. I will post my results here.

As far as cases go, no dice. I don't want that ugly cruzerlite case available on ebay india. And that S Line case looks super ugly as well. I will wait for decent cases to be available before making any purchase.
[X 2014 General] sandeeppathak007:
Hi

Any idea if we gonna get 32 gb version
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
I am also waiting for the same. I contacted Motorola India to know the situation but I think they don't want to say anything on this right now. They replied that they don't have any info about 32GB version and when they will have any info, they will announce it.

I also asked about availability of more colour options, this time they replied that there maybe few more color options depending on market response.

I will wait till festival season is over. Hopefully there maybe some discount or some offers along with availability of 32 GB version and few more colour options.
[X 2014 General] BoonPhunchok:
cases

where do we find cases for this phone?
[X 2014 General] Sumit.K:
Thanks buddy, even I ordered a couple of SG's through ebay (no brand mentioned on it). Lets see how it turns out to be. Further, I contacted an e-bay seller (paylessindia) who is one of the most trusted sellers based on my personal experience, to see if he plans to get any more cases for Moto X 2014. It turned out that he has got one from Diztronic and immediately sent me a link to purchase it, which I did. You may check it out here:

http://cgi.ebay.in/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=331335148220&ssPageName=ADME:L:eek:C:IN:3160

Use the above link buddy :)
[X 2014 General] sandeeppathak007:
If they don't then I think I will wait for next nexus as it seems to be a lot like x
[X 2014 General] Mandeep148:
Guys, can some one help me to tell, how is the resale value of Motorola in India?
[X 2014 General] devilsdouble:
I would say poorer than Samsung. Just for a reference I sold my eight months old S4 for 22.5k, which was purchased for 34k.

Now I bought the Moto X 2013 for 24k, and it's only three and a half months old and if I want to sell it now max I can fetch will be something like 15-16k.
[X 2014 General] Pro4Eva:
I dont get what the whining about battery life is about, I read reviews stating the battery is crap and well I beg to differ these stats posted below are great imo, what do u guys think?
[X 2014 General] rkial:
The tech world moves ahead pretty quick.

Those battery stats would be as good as it got 18 months - 2 years back... the problem is, the other flagships now have 20-30% better battery life.

"Gets me through a day on moderate use" was considered good when there was nothing better on offer. That isn't the case anymore.

The phones are bigger, so there is more space to fit in a bigger battery AND the SOCs are getting more efficient. ( I have the M7 with snapdragon 600. I'm pretty sure the 801 is more efficient than that).

The battery life is not on par with the competition. And that can't be a good thing
[X 2014 General] BoonPhunchok:
Cracked screen.

Firstly, happy dushera to all of you guys in india.

Ok so my screen cracked this morning and I don't know what to do. As many of you guys bought it from flipkart in India, I have too. How can I fix this? Any idea? Anyone? Thanks in advance.
[X 2014 General] Mandeep148:
thanks for help bro,

so that means if Google's new flagship is by moto then buying it or moto x 2014 is bad idea for those who always buy phones for 2 3 months?

i think google have bad choice this year...
[X 2014 General] rkial:
That's awful. How did it happen?

Anyway, you can find a list of service centres on the motorola website

https://motorola-mobility-en-in.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/86133
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
Lollipop is okay, it needs refinements which will come with future updates. Go only for 32GB, once you upgrade to Lollipop which runs on ART, it will consume additional space for every app on the storage. I don't have any music or even photos/videos in my phone. Just have couple of offline maps app worth 2.5GB along with few additional apps and consumption is already reached near to 10 GB. You get only around 10GB in the 16GB and around 24GB in the 32BG version. So IMO 16GB is useless today.
[X 2014 General] jineshpatel30:
okey ! it's helpful that you mentioned this :)
[X 2014 General] immiMIK:
Yes go for 32gb only.

Sent from my MotoX²
[X 2014 General] Mandeep148:
I sold my moto x2 3months old at 24k is that good value? :)
[X 2014 General] immiMIK:
Yes good value IMO. So going for Nexus 6?
[X 2014 General] Mandeep148:
Not decided yet :p will wait till July for good devices.. :)
[X 2014 General] edios123:
I just got my Moto X for 20K off OLX. Brand new condition.

I'm thinking of changing the battery cover. I've found some cool looking colors on eBay for 8$. But I'm worried about the installation. Is it easy to replace the back panel? Is it risky? Or I just have to be careful?
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
Look at here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=58727570&postcount=233
[X 2014 General] edios123:
Thanks a lot.

Another question, how do I clean the dirt in between the speakers? I tried sticky paper and brush, but unfortunately it didn't work. Is there any proper way of cleaning?
[X 2014 General] edios123:
One real problem here. Just after a day of use, the speaker has started to sound distorting. While listening to music, it isn't much noticeable but ring tones and message sounds, they sound so cheap. Anyone facing the same issue?

If it's defective, will I get a replacement?
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
Never keep volume level at highest, keep slightly lower. Stock ringtones are sounding good on my X at any level. Check if the some dirt particle got stuck inside the speaker grill is rattling or the speaker has conked off. If its speaker then looks like the first owner abused the phone, first dirt inside speaker grills and now distorting sound. Maybe he used to have high level volume.

This is a delicate phone unlike traditional heavy duty Motorolas, it needs a bit of handling with care. Never drop it, Use a pouch case while you are carrying the phone in your pocket or hand.

Still contact at service station and see if they are ready to count it as manufacturing defect and replace it for you.
[X 2014 General] edios123:
The seller is a nice guy. It didn't happen from him.

Contacted the SC. They told they'll try to replace it. Although not sure. They said it'll take at least 10 days.

And if I get a replacement, it'll be a new device right? Or a refurbished?

But the real problem is, it's 100KM away from my place. Should I spend money and check if I'll get a replacement or live with the speaker? :(

Really sad now.
[X 2014 General] nagarajsherigar:
Screen breaking problems

Hi Guys am planning to buy moto x 2014..when i started to read the reviews there is a lot on mention about fragile screen and screen breaking issues..So think twice should i buy this phone or not
[X 2014 General] edios123:
I got it for a really low price, 20K. At the full price, I suggest you to go with HTC One M8. Overall better phone.
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
M8 maybe better for few but not for everyone. I had chance to buy M8 at great deals, also got invites for OnePlusOne but donated the invites to other people and kept waiting for 32GB version of the X because of few reasons:

1. I wanted purest possible version of Android

2. Its the Moto X exclusive features which were main reason due to which I made up my mind for upgrade, otherwise my previous phone was doing good job for me.

3. Motorola is one company providing quickest updates. I got phone in Dec last week, at the same time I got notification of Lollipop upgrade. M8 is yet to receive updates because the ROM development takes time in HTC due to heavy Sense skin over the Android.

M8 is just ordinary phone like any other phone available right now, its the X which is distinct. Just think your Moto X is hanging in your car dock and suddenly you feel to capture a selfie, you just need to shout "OK Dada-Bhai, take a selfie" or if you want to capture a shot of road ahead then shout "Ok Mota-bhai, take a picture" and done, you don't meed to take your hands away from steering.

Another example, I have forgotten location of power button in my MotoX, thanks to Moto Display. Now it takes bit to figure out that I need to push power button to wake the screen whenever some other phone comes in my hands :)

Just start using the features of MotoX, and later come after one month and reply which other phone is better than Moto X. :cool:

Yeah, one thing I miss in the MotoX which is there in the M8 is the stereo speakers, which should have been there in the MotoX given that both phones share same audio chip and amplifier.

:)
[X 2014 General] edios123:
What you pointed out all are right. But about the software update. What after the phone becomes obsolete? Like more than 2 years from release? There is no many ROMs or a single kernel for this device.

And same speakers and amplifier? No mate, you got it wrong there. The headphone amplifier in X is pathetic. Too low sound and inconsistent sound when bass is increased. Even Yreka sounds a lot better. Speaker uhm, First I found it to be awesome but now it's same as any other phone. :/
[X 2014 General] amit9921:
2 major issues with Moto X

- Poor battery life. I can hardly make it for 12 hours of low to medium usage. With some light gaming for about an hour the battery is down to 50%

- Pathetic camera. Its unusable. I never take pics with my moto x. My wife's redmi 1s does a better job. Front camera is a joke. Always lagging.

Quick software upgrade is a plus but not at the cost of battery and cam. Moto voice is kool but works only 60% of times.

I would sell it off if someone gives me 24k. Let me know if anybody is interested ;)
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
First, who keeps the phone for more than 2 years? Then second, its the awesome MotoX stock software which most of the users don't want to get rids of. If flashing custom ROMs and all that is your motif, just go and get Yureka or One Plus One, whats the need of paying premium to HTC for M8? I always say, MotoX is not for those who are looking for customization or mods. Period.

I was talking about onbaord speaker and chip. This is one rare phone where I heard such clear audio through speaker. Then clarity of voice call through loud speaker is crisp and clear, its rare to find too many phones with such audio quality. Call reception and audio quality through earpiece speaker is also great.

On my JBL headphones, audio quality is very good. Audio is very detailed, crisp and clear. Though supplied headphones are definitely crap, I thrown out them on first day. About the low bass, you need to have good headphone which have good frequency response. Then audio source also has to be good, full range Flac or atleast 320 KBPS MP3.

Bass is low frequency soft bass having sufficient details. I can identify the difference between different bass notes. Its not boomy bass. Most of the audio systems rather eat-up details from the bass, what they do is just boost up the 'boomy' bass. I can't tolerate such bass for too much time. I care about audio clarity, details and MotoX does remarkable good in this department. Yureka definitely doesn't have good audio 'quality'. But different people have different choices. :)

If you have complaint from audio 'quality' then must be something wrong with your particular piece.
[X 2014 General] edios123:
When Moto keeps some intolerable limit on audio, there must be a way to remove it. Most of the popular phones have custom kernels which help to amplify the sound. But Moto X doesn't even have a single one.

Speaker is good, but not great. M8's speakers are in a different level. After M8 and Nexus 6, I think this is the best (maybe I'm wrong).

I use Sony XB-450 headphones and 320KBPS only. I'm a bass head. My previous phone, i.e S3 produced excellent quality + bass + volume. This is incomparable.

You're wrong mate, everyone knows Snapdragon's 801 DAC is pretty poor (I'm sure it can be improved, specially on the Moto X).

Yeah, I forgot to mention about the horrible battery life. And camera is pretty good in daylight, but horrible in low light. Same as Yureka.

Overall, I love the phone. Wish it had a custom kernel.

Also, Motorola SC sucks right? How many days will it take to get a phone replaced?

Edit: As Amit Said, Moto Voice works only like 60% of time. Then what's the use?
[X 2014 General] grubber24:
For those who are complaining about the camera on moto x 2014.. here are some photos i shooted with a simple twist and tap and auto HDR.. not boasting... just clarifying... hope you like these!
[X 2014 General] nagarajsherigar:
Moto X screen

All i need to know now is how Fragile is the screen..Can it survive a short distance fall?/
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
No, don't even think about dropping it.
[X 2014 General] amit9921:
It did survive one fall for me. The side edges of the back cover chipped a bit, but the screen was thankfully intact!
[X 2014 General] grubber24:
Mine dropped from 3 feet and survived due to the case.. cant say what would have happened.. anyways its glass and it may or may not break on a fall.. better be cautious!

Sent from my XT1092
[X 2014 General] edios123:
Man, that battery life isn't great either. I don't think you can squeeze 5h SOT from it. Max is around 4h. The OPO, which is priced a lot lesser, has an awesome battery life. But Moto X is better in a lot other ways.

On the camera part, you're wrong mate. This is certainly not the best camera. It's just adequate. Even I own a DSLR. The amount of noise on the photos makes me cry! :/

In daylight, it's good. But in low light it's close to unusable.

Smartphone cameras are sure long way to go. But have a look at the Note 4 or iPhone 6 Plus. They sure are a lot expensive than Moto X. But when compared, those phones are a lot better. Even iPhone 5S is better.

What makes me cry us, the OPO and Mi4 both have a better sensor. :'(

I've attached shots of Yureka and Moto X. Can you tell me how Moto X is better? In fact, Yureka manages shake reduction more efficiently.

Can you just imagine? A phone that costs more than 3x the other phone and the camera is same! I know camera isn't everything. But they could've made it better.

First two pics are of Yureka.

Sorry mate, the first pic is fine. But the other pics are nothing other than 'average' phone cameras. The pics are so grainy and doesn't look nice.

But I give a thumbs up to the composition.
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
LOL... How can I be wrong when I never used words like 'BEST' for camera or battery or even sound? My friend, Its you who said M8 is better than it, its you who is using words like horrible, pathetic, joke etc for camera, battery, Sound etc of MotoX. :)

And about that Chinese unreliable OPO thing, see the battery specs and phone size. I really can't use the phone like MI and OPO for my official and confidential usage.

if you feel the MotoX is a crap and almost everything is bad as whats reflecting form all of your complaining posts then just throw it away and buy something else which is more worth compared to MotoX, simple, why keeping it. :)

Battery backup was slightly better in Kitkat. There are couple of thread on battery life where you can see screenshots of more varying battery performance.

If its not giving you good battery backup, then it means its definitely not a suitable phone for you. Better you part with it sooner and get a good one more suitable for your needs.

Its not a good idea to be conclusive about anything. Something not suitable for you maybe be good for someone else, thats why different type of things exist in the world. :)

If camera is that much of priority then who is stopping you to buy any of them? :) There are different products available in the market to satisfy different needs of different people. You are free to take an 'informed' decision.

My old Atrix 2 haivng 8MP cam takes better pics than my MotoX but I am using only MotoX that too without a single complain. I knew its shortcomings and I also knew it's strong points which made me to upgrade. I bought MotoX as an overall package, Moto features were a big addition for me which forced me to upgrade.

Didn't I mention we are waiting for a camera API fix in next Lollipop release? Problem is in drivers or software, not in the sensor or hardware. :)

We are yet to see something heavily customisable like project ARA where everyone will be free to choose his own specs for every single feature of the smartphone. :)

I think this should fulfill your needs, wait for it to come:

[YOUTUBE]intua_p4kE0[/YOUTUBE]

And please avoid quoting long posts, instead quote only relevant parts which are worth in the discussion. It makes difficult to read the posts containing long quotes. :good:
[X 2014 General] Sandeep Srikantam:
I'm very much happy with the battery.
[X 2014 General] immiMIK:
I regularly get sot of 6 hrs and 24stby on lollipop with Bluetooth always on and moto 360 connected.
[X 2014 General] edios123:
Sorry dude, I didn't mean you said it's great. What I meant was that it's far from 'good'. M8 is better in other ways, but it's more expensive too.

That's right. Agree.

I can't dude. I'm 14 now and I can't just throw and change to other phone when I wish to do so. Moto X isn't crap. I really like, now even more. I'd have sure bought the M8 if I had the budget, but in my budget, Moto X is the best! 20K for this phone is awesome. So I can't complain.

The form factor - I just love it!

5 hrs SOT? That's pretty good! I can get a max of 3-3.5hrs SOT.

I can't argue with you anymore man. I can't believe I'm getting a reply from such a calm guy. You have all your points right dude. A big thumbs up. This comment made my day!

Budget constraints.

I see that some app named 'L Camera' has made Nexus 5's camera a lot better. Hope Motorola uses it in the next release.

Also I remember when an update improved N5's camera a lot (A LOT!). I hope Motorola does something really good in the next update.

Everyone's waiting for it. ;)

Once again, you're really not a fanboy bro. You're simply awesome. No arguments, just straight to the point.

Sure, I'll do it now onwards. I was on my phone, and was lazy to do so. Sorry. :)

That's insane. :eek:

OMG!

Someone please tell me if my phone is defective? Battery seems pretty low compared to you guys. :confused:

Also my phone heats pretty easily, under normal use. My dad's Note 4 does the same though.

My battery stats for today (charged many times though) uploaded.
[X 2014 General] immiMIK:
[MENTION=4682977]edios123[/MENTION] will suggest you to factory reset once and see if it improves battery performance.
[X 2014 General] edios123:
I'll do it and report here.

Was too lazy to do it lol.