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[Sony Cross-Device General] Product F(RED):
That's friggin nuts. The CDMA network is still running, but it's for legacy users/roaming. My family was on Sprint (a CDMA carrier) until a few months ago, and when they went up to Canada last year they had full service (Ottawa). They were using iPhone 4's too, so there's no GSM radio in them.

Verizon in the US is, service-wise, the equivalent of Rogers in Canada, except it's CDMA. I know that the real carrier Rogers is like is AT&T, but I mean in terms of being the carrier you go to when you need service everywhere and money is of no concern. AT&T is second-place, but for all intents and purposes is a GSM Verizon, basically. It's pretty much too late for them to switch to GSM since they're looking to move users to VoLTE (which also handles SMS and MMS). So they just want to kill CDMA off rather than have any fall-back. What's funny is that they gave T-Mobile some LTE Band 12 (700 MHz Lower A) spectrum in exchange for some AWS spectrum. Verizon, while they have amazing signal and were the first to roll out nationwide LTE, had a congested network until recently. So now they market AWS LTE as "XLTE" (bull**** marketing term that sounds flashy). But in doing so, they shot themselves in the foot by giving T-Mobile Band 12 LTE.

T-Mobile is our "hero" carrier. They offer crazy stuff like free international data while abroad, Wifi Calling, music streaming that doesn't affect your caps (music providers do not pay them for this), HD Voice both over HSPA+ and LTE, etc. This has caused AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint to enter a race to the bottom and offer ridiculously low rates compared to what they were offering previously. T-Mobile's issue is they don't have any low-band spectrum whatsoever. In total, so far they use 1900 MHz and 1700/2100 MHz across EDGE, HSPA+, and LTE. This results in low/non-existent signal outside of big cities and poor signal penetration in buildings. But now with 700 MHz, AT&T and Verizon are f*cked because T-Mobile solved their only issue.

That's what you guys need. Real competition. I know Canada is different geographically (much more rural areas). But it just goes to show you that people will sacrifice signal strength somewhat for cheaper rates. I actually have an uncle that works for Alcatel-Lucent in Ottawa. I should ask him about this stuff. I know they work with 3 of the 4 major US carriers (AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint).
[Sony Cross-Device General] Moose21:
I'm sure the latency isn't great so it wouldn't be much good for gaming, but that's the sort of service that could be used as a home internet connection even..:fingers-crossed:

I've done LTE speed tests on all 3 major carriers in Alberta and BC while dealing with company devices, and never seen higher than 25Mbit download speeds on Rogers, ~20Mbit on Telus and never more than 4Mbit upload speeds on any of them on Galaxy S4/S5s, or various LGs. The average download is usually more like 8-15Mbit. They all claim up to 100Mbit speeds in advertising, yet not a single one of them functionally provide it. And besides, they're all capped plans anyways. They're allowed to lie claiming 'up to' such a speed because the devices are capable, yet you'll never see even half that speed in real-world usage, and all their standard plans today offer *I am not joking* 500Mb to 3Gb of data for $40-60/mo. Seriously. You have to fight to even get a 5Gb plan in Canada these days with Rogers, Telus or Bell because they've realized that the 5Gb+ plans they offered years ago are now actually GETTING USED. And that's bad for profits. :rolleyes:
[Sony Cross-Device General] Product F(RED):
Well, I know that Rogers Max uses 2600 MHz. Considering they're the only carrier to use that frequency in Canada, you could probably reach 100 Mbps. But also, considering how high the frequency is, it's pretty stupid for Rogers to use it. It will barely cover an area, and it's so high that it won't even penetrate buildings. It's like filling up a Ferrari with 1 liter of gas.

Not to keep going on and on about T-Mobile, but they're pretty much the only carrier that can deliver on that 100 Mbps promise. They've recently started using 15x15 and 20x20 MHz LTE bandwidths with their AWS spectrum.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Moose21:
Yes, the situation is very different in Canada. Cantel->Cantel AT&T->Rogers was the only national cellular carrier from the late 80s until the early 2000s. Telus and Bell are regional telcos and cellular networks who have nominally made a national partnership on both wireline and wireless services- what most people don't know is that a Telus cellphone is roaming seamlessly on Bell in the east, and Bell phones largely do the same on Telus in the west since their native coverage footprints outside their home territory is fairly small even now. Cantel was partly owned by AT&T until then, and then bought out by Rogers. This is why there is fairly contiguous spectrum coverage in the 850/1900 bands with each carrier because unlike the US, they weren't built by buying up and consolidating lots of little independent regional carriers.

My other huge complaint with the legacy carriers is their use of 2600mhz for LTE today, both Rogers and Bell use this as a supplemental coverage to increase LTE speeds (so they claim). This band was originally provided to a company called Inukshuk Wireless for rural and high-north WiMax deployments offering up to 3Mbit unlimited service for $40/mo. It was quite reliable in areas where it was available, some of my relatives used it. About ~8 years ago Rogers and Bell bought the company and deliberately ran the service into the ground, literally. They refused to advertise it, it wasn't even listed on their websites, but they still had to offer the connection kits in retail stores for a few years. Then they shut it down, and repurposed the spectrum for LTE. :rolleyes:

The federal government got a lot of publicity out of the AWS auction a few years back, claiming Wind and Mobilicity would create competition. it's been over 5 years now, and prices and competition are worse than they were then. The big 3 have MVNO discount brands that started off with basic plans for low rates, but have gradually even increased those to the same level as their mainline services. Wind has tried disruptive service options like unlimited use, and they just started offering free US roaming as well- it's ironic that on Wind, you'll get better coverage and service roaming in the US now than you will in your own country.. :silly: But you still can't get away from the fact that you can't go to a park, or out in the country, or drive along a major highway without dropping off their network. That has and does cripple them, because *everyone* says they'd switch to Wind in a hearbeat because we all hate Rogers Telus and Bell- except that actual network coverage is kinda important. And noone will pay $50/mo for the same coverage they got in 1995.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Enigmafied:
This looks really interesting.

Is this of any use on a Nexus 6?

Reason I ask is with my vzw g3 after unlocking two lte bands with its hidden menu, it would hook up to lte on telus.

Now with the nexus 6, which has more lte bands, with the same sim card as g3, it will not get lte on telus. It sure seems like it tries, as every few minutes my connection drops, then comes back again.

Does the sim card specify which bands can be used? If so is there some easy way to tell android to stop respecting what the sim card wishes? Like the tethering policy?

Thanks!

Regarding the Canadian cell phone talk, here's an interesting and insightful video from the owner of wind mobile: http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/wind-mobile-backer-regrets-canadian-launch-1.1013522
[Sony Cross-Device General] palmbeach05:
Just try it out and see what happens. Stop being afraid to try something new and just go with it
[Sony Cross-Device General] altitud63:
Can I ask you Which metod did you use? Thanks in advace.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Product F(RED):
The Nexus 6 already supports a f*ckload of frequencies, so no not really. The only differences between the 2 models are that the Euro version doesn't have CDMA enabled (since CDMA isn't used in Europe / legally they can only use GSM), and some of the LTE frequencies are different (but none of the ones on the other model are used here).
[Sony Cross-Device General] Enigmafied:
Thanks very much, that's what I was thinking all those bands are already available.

Does the sim card tell the phone what bands it can and can't use? Is there any way to check what bands are available to the phone?

Thanks again!
[Sony Cross-Device General] Product F(RED):
The SIM card just tells the phone what network to connect to. The phone will connect to whatever network/frequency that it detects that carrier is transmitting on. Meaning if a carrier starts using a new frequency, your phone will connect to it with the same SIM card (as long as the phone connects to that frequency). You can change the preferred service (e.g. LTE or WCDMA (3G) or EDGE), but that's it.

You can read about what frequencies it supports here: http://www.google.com/nexus/6/

(Go down to specs and hit the little arrow icon). If you're lazy, here:

North America:

GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz

CDMA Band Class: 0/1/10

WCDMA Bands: 1/2/4/5/8

LTE Bands: 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/25/26/29/41

CA DL Bands: B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-29, B4-B5, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29

Rest of World:

GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz

CDMA: not supported

WCDMA Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/9/19

LTE Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/9/19/20/28/41

CA DL: B3-B5, B3-B8

CA means Carrier Aggregation, which means it can use a pair of LTE frequencies together, at the same time. Really, the North American model is good enough at it is. It supports ever carrier in the US (AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint, US Cellular, and others), and it has 2 of the 3 LTE frequencies used in Europe (Band 3, 7, but missing 20). But if you were to travel anywhere in the world, it would get at least up to WCDMA/HSPA+.

Basically, the Nexus 6 is a true world phone. If you come to the US with a Rest of World model, you can't go onto Sprint or Verizon prepaid with the phone, so you have to use AT&T or T-Mobile, which are GSM. So that works. With the North American model, if you're traveling the world, you're probably not going to be buying an expensive data package with LTE (though it will work with LTE mostly in Europe), so you'll get EDGE and HSPA+. All in all the Nexus 6 is one of the best phones you can get in terms of frequencies supported.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Enigmafied:
So that brings me back to my question then, with my vzw LG g3, after enabling the two disabled lte bands, it would get lte with telus. Same sim card in my nexus 6, same bands supposedly available, yet it only gets hspa.

Thanks
[Sony Cross-Device General] Product F(RED):
Something's either wrong with the APN then (is there a separate LTE APN?), or the SIM card is old; if you have a SIM card from before they introduced LTE, you need a new one. All Canadian carriers use LTE Band 4 (Rogers Max also uses LTE Band 7, but that's irrelevant). Assuming you have a North American Nexus 6, it should work.

What model number is your Nexus 6? Settings -> About Phone

Also the Verizon LG G3 actually should have had LTE Band 4 enabled out of the box, because Verizon LTE actually uses that in addition to Band 13, so it's weird that you had to enable it yourself.
[Sony Cross-Device General] ChazzMatt:
[MENTION=5733862]BlackSoulxxx[/MENTION] and other knowledgeable members...

I have a Moto Maxx (XT1225). Please help. I want to unlock all LTE bands.

International version of the Verizon Droid Turbo. Comes with

GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)

LTE700 (B17), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE1800 (B3), LTE2600 (B7), LTE1900 (B2)

Do I use QPST or QXDM, or both? I see conflicting information, or either I'm not comprehending.

This is how far I've gotten.

But I don't see any LTE bands available in that section. Only other bands like GSM, WCDMA.

So, do I need QXDM to find some other values/change some other values?
[Sony Cross-Device General] palmbeach05:
You need to find out what bands your carrier operates on for LTE and check those boxes as well
[Sony Cross-Device General] ChazzMatt:
There's NO LTE boxes to check. That's my question.

My phone already has LTE bands 2,3,4,17. I want more. Specifically LTE band 5 (for AT&T) and LTE band 12 (for T-mobile). I will take others too. :)

However, in that menu NO LTE bands are available for choosing.

So, I think QPST is for NON-LTE bands. I think QXDM is for LTE.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Product F(RED):
First off, T-Mobile LTE on Band 12 is barely available yet. Secondly, do not check the box for Band 12 because you can damage the 700 MHz antenna (I read this from a T-Mobile engineer on reddit). The phone will attempt to use Band 12, but will fail. Band 12 requires a separate antenna. Band 5, you can try. But as it stands, unless you live in an area where AT&T uses Band 5, you don't need it. I'm in NYC with a T-Mobile Note 3 on AT&T. AT&T uses Band 2 (1900 MHz) and Band 17 (700 MHz).
[Sony Cross-Device General] palmbeach05:
I did not ask you for if it says LTE bands in the program. I told you go research your carrier/service provider for your phone. Find out what bands they use for LTE. Go to that program screen and check off the appropriate bands

And did you try selecting ATT on that screen or would you like to stay at None on the left hand side
[Sony Cross-Device General] ChazzMatt:
OK, I need LTE band 5 added. I already have LTE bands 2, 4, 17 (which AT&T uses). So, which box do I check? :confused:

Yes, I briefly selected AT&T. I will show you what that screenshot shows. I did not change any values. This is what the "AT&T" selection looks like:

So, are you saying "WCDMA" also applies to LTE bands?

because THIS screen shows "band 5" is already enabled, does it not? This screenshot shows what's already enabled. The other screen is what you can choose, and "none" is the default.

But I know that's not LTE band 5. This phone supposedly has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 17 enabled out of the box. Where's LTE band 17? There's no LTE bands listed on that page.
[Sony Cross-Device General] palmbeach05:
[5] = band 5.

Given that example, go to the band selector screen and select the bands you need.
[Sony Cross-Device General] ChazzMatt:
But according to my "already enabled" screen, that band 5 (category 26) is already enabled. And I know I do not have LTE band 5 yet enabled. That's WCDMA (UMTS).

If this selection screen is for LTE, then where's band 17 on that selection screen? This phone already has LTE band 17 enabled. It has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 17 out of the box But tHAT screen is not for LTE. It's only for 2G/3G bands.

Here's my QXDM screen. This is the value I think I need to change for LTE, according to other information in XDA.
[Sony Cross-Device General] palmbeach05:
I am not talking about the 1st screenshot in regards to my hint that [5] = band 5. I did not say anything about category 26. Check off the band 5 and 17 boxes that are not checked off. You're making this way too complicated than what it needs to be.
[Sony Cross-Device General] ChazzMatt:
Maybe I am making it complicated, but I don't see how enabling CDMA bands gives me LTE. (because that's the only other "5" I see.) Also I don't need to enable LTE band 17 as it's already enabled.

Wheras THIS guy and many more comments in this thread and others say to edit the NV line 6828 values in QXDM.

Using

this guide

and the numbers from the

NV calculator

I enabled all the LTE bands I wanted (see below).

I confirmed this number.

So, I changed the value and after reboot it kept the new value.

As the Moto Maxx was being tested to be the Nexus 6 as late as mid-August, it has the same capabilities of the Nexus 6 (including Qi wireless charging, which is VERY unusual on a Moto phone). Thus it can also handle LTE band 12 just like the Moto Maxx, not that it matters. It was LTE band 5 I was more worried about. When this phone with this same FCC ID number went through the FCC it had LTE band 5 enabled, but when sold in Puerto Rico (U.S. territory) with this same FCC ID number, LTE band 5 was no longer present but LTE band 3 was enabled.

Now they are all enabled. :)
[Sony Cross-Device General] sanez:
I tried to enable bands 3, 7 and 20 for Europe on my MOTO x XT1053 and everything went apparently fine. Unfortunately even if new values are stored, there's not effect on the hardware... I live in Italy and ther's no way to lock LTE signal.

I don't know if it is just related to XT1053 HW or if i did something wrong. Any idea?

Thanks
[Sony Cross-Device General] palmbeach05:
Change preferred network type to global. See if that works
[Sony Cross-Device General] sanez:
It doesn't work. It locks 3G H+ only. I tried to force LTE only but in this case connection resuslts lost.
[Sony Cross-Device General] palmbeach05:
*#*#4636#*#* and go to phone settings. Make it say an option that has LTE in it
[Sony Cross-Device General] sanez:
Nothing... Here what happens
[Sony Cross-Device General] palmbeach05:
Ok, you are in the right place. Is there a LTE/GSM/CDMA auto option? If yes, select that one.
[Sony Cross-Device General] sanez:
It keeps to lock H+ only.
[Sony Cross-Device General] palmbeach05:
If you go into your normal settings, mobile networks, what does the preffered network option set to?
[Sony Cross-Device General] sanez:
4G
[Sony Cross-Device General] palmbeach05:
Set it to Global (CDMA/EvDo/LTE/GSM/WCDMA)
[Sony Cross-Device General] sanez:
No changes!

At this stage I think I've already tried all options. May be the value i used to enable is not the right one... The values are stored correctly because i can see them on build prop lines, but i'm not sure if i used the "magic" one.

I've used Qualcomm NV calculator and I edited line NV6828 with QXDM and I put "526414". It should correspond to bands 2,3,4,7,12,20. What i need to get LTE is band 3 or 7, but seems that those frequency are not available...
[Sony Cross-Device General] palmbeach05:
Follow the steps to unlock and just check off all the bands, that should do it and you don't even have to mess with the calculator
[Sony Cross-Device General] sanez:
I did already!

This is what I did first of all. In this case, the phone went in a loop, keeping signal for few second and looses immediately after...
[Sony Cross-Device General] Enigmafied:
About phone only lists model as a Nexus 6. The APNs on the sim card are interesting. The sim card was for my g2 or my g3, and I had to cut it down to fit in the nexus 6.

In my nexus 6 it shows these apns: 4xEHRPD, 4xLTE, 12xVerizon internet, 7xVerizon VZWINTERNET, 7xVerizon VZWADMIN, 7xVerizon VZWIMS, and 7xVerizon VZWAPP.

I added the same APN that was active in my G3 to my nexus 6 and that made no difference.

In my lg g3 it only shows 6 apns, VZWINTERNET INTERNET PDN (active), VZWIMS IMS PDN APN, VZWADMIN ADMINISTRATIVE PDN APN, VZWAPP APPLICATION PDN APN, VZW800, and VZWEMERGENCY.

I enabled bands 3 and 7 on my LG G3, and I could try removing them and testing to see if that even has an effect. Bands 4 and 13 were enabled out of the box. I know when I was in an LTE area, it did not get LTE until I enabled those bands. I will be able to test this again near the end of this week I believe.

Thanks again!!
[Sony Cross-Device General] DeMichaelis:
Xiaomi Mi4 LTE

anyone tested it with the xiaomi mi4 (fdd lte) ?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Product F(RED):
I could swear I read that the issue was with telus and they fixed it by calling them. It was plan-related if I remember correctly.

You're 100 percent sure you're using the right Telus APN?
[Sony Cross-Device General] thepinkpanter:
Hello BlackSoulxxx and Olokos,

I think that I found the right thread.... I have the Samsung Galaxy S5 Duos SM-G900FD and as I am a traveler I am often in US and I use the T-Mobile but unfortunately my phone missing the LTE AWS band 4 and some other used by T-Mobile,

would you please tell me how can I add/enable the T-Mobile bands to my dual sim phone?

thanks
[Sony Cross-Device General] Product F(RED):
You most likely cannot. There's actual hardware required, namely an antenna and amplifier. And Band 4 is really only used in North America, so Samsung probably didn't include it. Just like the Note 3 N9005/N900 don't have it.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Enigmafied:
Oh shoot sorry, I guess I never specified. I'm with verizon... My bad. My verizon g3 with verizon sim card got lte on telus, but my nexus 6 with same (trimmed) sim card does not, even though it has the same plus more bands. The apns are different in my nexus 6 than in my g3 however that works with the same sim card, but I added the one that was active in my g3 to nexus 6 and it was still a no go.

Do all of the apns in my g3 with working lte on telus need to be the same as what's in my nexus?

Thanks once again!
[Sony Cross-Device General] Product F(RED):
If you want to roam onto Telus while using your Verizon SIM, just use your normal Verizon APN. If you want to use a Telus SIM card, then you put in the Telus APN.

I think what you're saying is you don't get LTE while roaming on Telus, right?
[Sony Cross-Device General] Enigmafied:
Yup, I don't get lte roaming on telus with my nexus 6. With my g3 with same sim card (apns are different between phones for whatever reason) I do get lte roaming on telus.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Product F(RED):
I don't know if it's a Verizon thing, but it seems like LTE roaming is dependent on the software, not necessarily the SIM (at least for Verizon).

Here, you can see the G2 had to be updated just to support LTE data roaming:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...ed-calling-1-0-improvements-lte-data-roaming/

So I'm wondering if there's something that need to be updated to enable this. Otherwise, this should work fine. I cannot think of a single reason for this not to work. Telus uses LTE Band 4, which both your Nexus 6 and LG G3 support. T-Mobile's main LTE frequency is also LTE Band 4, and that's the most popular carrier to use the N6 on. So it's gotta be a Verizon-specific configuration file on the phone or something.
[Sony Cross-Device General] thepinkpanter:
Hello,

I found the following thread : http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s5/help/galaxy-s5-g900fd-t2829293/page4

and it look like by changing the rom only it will work with the band 4 but if I do it I'll loose some important European band :(

any help/suggestion?

thanks again for your kind help
[Sony Cross-Device General] Product F(RED):
That doesnt make any sense. The ROM does not control which bands are available. That's a combination of the device hardware and the modem firmware (which cannot be cross-flashed).
[Sony Cross-Device General] Moose21:
Hi Enigmafied-

can you follow up here, or preferably here with the details on how you have edited the G3 radio bands? I have been looking for a set of instructions for testing this with a D852 for months with no reply from anyone.. :P

I wanted to test access to the AWS bands for HSPA and LTE with Wind and T-Mobile on a Bell-sourced D852.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Enigmafied:
I will respond the same in both threads as it may be benificial to readers in each thread. To enable the Verizon LG G3 VS985 bands was simple, I followed the instructions from this thread: http://xdaforums.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/unlocked-lte-bands-vs985-t2909150

Not sure if you will have a hidden menu that is similar! Hope it helps!
[Sony Cross-Device General] altitud63:
I already unlock the LTE bands for the LG G3 D855 to be used on México. So my question is this, If I update the phone to lollipop (Clean lollipop, no root, no custom recovery, etc) the bands are going to be locked again? I ask this because I will give the phone to my wife and she doesn´t know anything about this, so I would like to give her clean. Thanks in advance.
[Sony Cross-Device General] Product F(RED):
Generally, as long as you don't update the modem, you're fine. But since most OTA updates contain a modem (especially for a major update to Android like Kitkat -> Lollipop), the mod will probably need to be redone.
[Sony Cross-Device General] altitud63:
Thanks a lot for the answer, maybe the best is keep the phone like now.