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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] hsbadr:
[MENTION=5601139]Misterxtc[/MENTION],

I've used the VZW OTA to successfully patch NE9 stock images on Linux. Now, I've all files equivalent to NHA stock images that haven't been released yet (which always takes a week or so). I'll use it to upgrade Note 3 users to 4.4.4 S5 port soon & I can create rooted odexed/deodexed bases for you on S5, if you wish. It'll be a safe & direct NHA upgrade, but I'll need testers since I don't have S5 device. Let me know if you're interested & willing to test.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bizhar1990:
Success

Thanks open1your1eyes0. Worked.

FYI my phone has the open lock icon with "Custom".
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
If you can update the TowelRoot SU without SS then that's good. I wasn't sure if you could update it thru the Playstore or not, I haven't tried that since the first release of TR when it was having problems being updated.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Mountainfisher:
Mine has that two. But I don't mind it, It is rooted. I've got the new NHA update and am rooted. I tried using safestrap to restore my extreme Syndicate rom. And it booted fine but in about phone it is just on 4.4.2. So I restored my NHA backup.

First post here, I just randomly decided to root my phone yesterday, researched and did it. It's all pretty easy it seems. Anyway nice site here, good place to start for beginners.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] madvj:
What are the added features/improvements with this update? Anyone have a changelog? I am trying to see if its worth updating and going through this process. I did not take last update either since I am rooted.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bsweetness:
I have yet to see a changelog, but here's a few things I've noticed:

- Overall, the phone feels a little bit snappier.

- The fingerprint scanner works better.

- The camera app opens faster and is more responsive overall. They've also added an option in the settings to turn the shutter sound off (something that was removed from the Verizon version of the phone previously).

- Smart remote has been redesigned, and I'm not a fan.

- We now get free Basic Visual Voicemail. You'll be prompted to install it with a notification. I use Google Voice, so I didn't want it, but in order to get the notification to stop popping up, I had to go through the steps to install it. I then made sure Google Voice was still set up as my voicemail on the phone (which it was). One thing to keep in mind - when you install it, you automatically get a 30 free trial of Premium Visual Voicemail. I cancelled it from within the voicemail app to avoid Verizon possibly charging me for it after 30 days.

I'm sure there are other changes/additions, but those are what I've noticed so far.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] lancelinksp:
Hmm, SuperSU isn't disabling Knox. Im having a brain fart, something else need to be installed so that SuperSU can make the commands?

EDIT: Nevermind. Rebooted and worked fine after that
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sroy37:
Is it me or did they disable scrolling wallpapers?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] packetjunkie:
After doing step 1 (twice), I've been stuck with gapps, google play and even gmail crashing constantly. I think it may have to do with apps that I had stopped, so trying to reset them and try again.

UPDATE: While the errors continue, the OTA update is downloading...

UPDATE: This isnt going flawless - each step of the way, I'm getting a ton of force closes. I did get the OTA installed, ran towelroot, but SUperSU failed, so rebooting. On reboot, SuperSU reported I was rooted.

UPDATE: After completing the steps, I am on 4.4.4 rooted. :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BigBot96:
SCrolling wallpaper has never been a feature in TouchWiz. It can be enabled but requires the apk to be decompiled.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sroy37:
Ah...I installed Nova 1st thing and it was working with that before the update. Never used stock launcher ;)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
extreme syndicate will be updated to v2 when the tar is released! it will include some fixes/changes and maybe more debloat :) it will be lighter for sure!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BigBot96:
As will SlymHyde, and possibly a name change. I know someone earlier mentioned providing system dumps, but I'll wait for the official tar. I'm not too keen on firmware packages based from dumps.. too many things can go wrong (I've learned the hard way on past devices).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] slvrbul:
I too was having issues with the step. I just used Odin to go back to the March NCG and went from there and no problems. Rooted on NHA with SS !!!

Chief
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Mountainfisher:
SlymHyde and elliwigy thanks to both of you. Though I am new to the root, I tried both of yalls roms and liked them. Ill look forward to updating them.

Have a good day
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BeansTown106:
we actually have 4.4.4 before the international variants do.. very weird..

well this question should be refrased to a correct NHA rom from official images. ;)

ya patching toghether is probably the worst way to do it. stock rom built from factory images is the only way to go imho.. no need to patch it toghether just to be "1st"

i hope we can do it the correct way this time instead of having 2 different version of firmware/stock roms.. less confusion for users is always the best..

on other topic has anyone tested the current safestrap and seen if it works on the NHA build? i suggest just flashing supersu zip if u can boot into recovery
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
This... :confused:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BeansTown106:
lol right.. and verizon not incrementning the bootloader is another :confused:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
SS works fine with NHA.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pwhitersxs:
Looks like VPN on data is still broken. This is one bug (for me) that is unacceptable. Hopefully it'll be fixed in Android L.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] muniz_ri:
ROM's have been created from dumps since I can remember with no issues if properly done, e.g. proper updater script, etc. And some variants never get a full odin .tar. so there is no other choice. Is the S5 that much different and is there any basis for that opinion?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] demarco5:
im new to this, i did towel root when it first came out and havent done any updates since

should i not follow those 6 steps listed here to get the update and wait on something else?

i dont wanna brick the phone but those steps seem pretty simple
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] packetjunkie:
I did the steps and did not brick my phone, although as I wrote above, I did experience a lot of FCs during the process. Working through those and just continuing to do the steps worked for me.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] demarco5:
FCs?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BeansTown106:
the only way to get a correct 1:1 copy is from a factory image, for symlinks/permissions/etc, i understand that u caan make a working rom off of a dump but why do so when the tar is gonna be released as it always is? especially when it comes to firmware to get a 1:1 copy factory image is the safest otherwise u have to depad the pulled partitions which is very cumbersome if you dont know exactly what you are doing
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Crsdr37:
Only until I reflashed the NHA kernel
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
Same here. It's a bit annoying but it works after a bunch of poking.....
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] demarco5:
well i dont know how to poke bc i never used any of this before (odin etc) all i did was towel root and xposed

think ill be able to get past errors?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BigBot96:
Its true that ROMs can be created without the official tar.. Ive done it for the sch-i705 for the first year before we finally got a tar, but it takes a lot more work to get working properly. Work that is unnecessary considering this particular device will have a full tar.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] rester555:
I am still a proud owner of the Galaxy nexus and wanting to switch over to the Verizon GS5. Does this root method allow you to use Safestrap?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Chopstix9:
Yes it does. Be cautious though and ONLY install roms on the stock slot. Safestrap works but the rom slots are buggy.

I just retired my GNEX last month. Had it since the week it hit the market, wife still on one. Coming from the GNEX to S5 I can assure you that you are going to be BLOWN AWAYby the battery life.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] rester555:
So based on your advice, would it be safe to run xposed on the stock rom slot rooted version, or make a backup on rom slot and then run xposed?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] midnight assassin:
Exposed is fine on the stock slot. Don't even bother with a ROM slot.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Chopstix9:
I rooted and installed safestrap and put the Alliance rom on a rom slot before finding out about the bugs in safestrap. So I odined back to stock. Now I run rooted with supersu and Xposed framework and modules without safestrap. Just running stock rom and Xposed. Runs like a charm. And with all I have done, the knox counter is still in fact 0x0, so you are safe which ever way you want to go.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] stevey5036:
If you Odin to NE9, do you effectively factory reset the device? I am on NE9 now and cannot take the OTA, so flashing NE9 via Odin will make my phone fresh out of the box?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] billhilt:


Me too.. until you flash the NHA kernal with Odin you will be tapping a lot but after that your good to go
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
No, the NE9 dose not wipe all of your data. I have to do a factory reset from the phone settings to get to out of the box state. Flashing just the tar will get the filesystem stock but some data will be there. This is good enough to get the OTA to work. Without factory resetting first you should have most of your apps minus SU and Safestrap. I prefer to reset but that's your choice... dirty flash or clean.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] donbudafuko:
Could I just flash the updated kernel in Odin as I am already rooted running a customs Rom?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BDragonD24:
You could but you are likely to run into problems given that that custom ROM isn't likely based on 4.4.4. Better to just follow the steps laid out earlier in the thread if you want to take advantage or wait until whoever's custom ROM you are using updates it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] fillyo:
Anyone know if we have to redo the S Health fix to run Xposed?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] radpp16:
Worked perfectly. Donate link?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
No donation required, but there's a button under my image on the left there if you prefer. :good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] d2l:
Did you have any luck with this method?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Cerebro22:
I was on rooted NE9, flashed the stock NE9 tar in Odin, confirmed no root afterwards and software is saying its up to date??? Anyone else having this issue?

Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] hakoreh:
I have everything set thank you though my 4G icon stays on even if my wifi is connected. I disabled caller ID app. Still it remains. Is there anything else I have go freeze?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ChadH42:
I successfully Odin'ed back to stock NE9, applied the OTA, flashed NGC boot image, rooted with tr3 and reflashed the NHA boot image without wiping data. I have had no problem or FC's so I think that it's OK to dirty flash.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bsweetness:
I read elsewhere that this is the way it will be from here on out due to VoLTE support. The fact that the 3G symbol doesn't stay on while connected to WiFi when in a 3G area lends more credence to this as well. As long as you don't see data transmitting via lit arrows under the 4G symbol (which I haven't seen when connected to WiFi), all should be fine.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] hakoreh:
yup LOTS of FC's. I had to press OK like 6 times straight just to get to towelroot. Annoying but have patience.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
The old kernel doesn't like the new firmware. :silly:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] packetjunkie:
A few apps - like Amazon - were funky after the process. I had to uninstall with TB and then reinstall from the Play Store to get it working again. I also had a problem in trying to use TB to update the sys app for Google Play framework, it hung up and when i restarted it was missing. I used TB to get a backup and its fine now (although I have to option to reintegrate with the sys app which I wont do right now).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] slvrbul:
I had numerous FC'S as well but once I rooted and installed NCH it havn't had an issue. I also have the 4G and 3G lit up when on WiFi but the arrows are only under WiFi . I will,be glad when the tar file is released !!!

Chief
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] yanqemil:
What changes in menu compare with 4.4.2?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] demarco5:
so you guys are saying there will be a tar file released soon that will only involve 1 step? flashing the 4.4 tar on a already rooted phone and no issues? just trying to debate which way to do this lol....6 step way or wait for a tar
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
There will be one soon but it only saves the step of having to take the OTA, rest are still required for rooting.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] demarco5:
oh ok so i might as well just go do it and get it over with

thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BigBot96:
Only true if you are currently not rooted. If you're already rooted, you'll just need to flash the ROM via safestrap, reboot directly to download mode and flash firmware. Reboot.

If you are currently not rooted, yes follow these steps. If you are currently rooted and using of the ROMs in the dev section, then wait.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
True as well, that's definitely another option.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] demarco5:
do i have to disable or uninstall xposed, busybox, supersu before i start step 1 of that procedure?

do i have to enable, install or unfreeze any bloated apps i got rid of when i first rooted before i start step 1 ?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] wrongway213:
This particular process is what i have been trying to figure out as of late. i've never had an OTA on a custom rom before, and I know the rom I am using has OTAs of some sort, That being said, I still am not totally sure of how this works. I'll be flashing the updated version of my rom via Safestrap, then rebooting right into download mode to flash NHA firmware via Odin? If so, I assume I will lose all apps and data as per usual. What I am not sure of is how Titanium works with OTAs. Am I able to backup all apps and data on NCG and then restore on NHA? Or are certain things problematic to restore in an OTA update? Normally I wouldn't ask this many questions in one post, but you have a way with explaining things to use new guys (and don't seem to mind doing it. God knows we need and appreciate it).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
For safety purposes all apps should be unfrozen and XPosed definitely needs to be uninstall. In any case, if the OTA still fails just flash the NE9 firmware to guarantee everything is back to stock.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] demarco5:
so confused...im rooted, but all ive ever done to the phone is towel root and install xposed/wanam

i never flashed any rom ever

should i do the 6 steps or not?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Zixx:
-First do a back up with SS

-Then wipe (not sure if is require)

-get into download mode,and install NE9

-let the phone do its thing and then Take the NHA update then install and restart

-I recomend installing SS,BusyBox,and Towelroot before installing NCG kernel. (Do not open them just install them)

-reboot in Download mode and install the NCG kernel only

- now restart your phone open up. Towelroot (install it),Install SuperSU!,install busybox &, install SS and don't worry about the FC's.

-once that's done again get into download mode and Flash NHA kernel only and tada!!!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] demarco5:
dont even know what SS or download mode is lol

like i said i only ever did towel root then installed apps...maybe i shoudnt touch this stuff....but i do want a better working fingerprint scanner
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PaEGaN13:
I am far from an expert and I just did mine with no issues. The force closes are a bit annoying but manageable. I froze voice mail with TB to get rid of the annoying notification (I use google voice, and that still works fine.)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BigBot96:
If you're using one of the custom ROMs in the Dev subforum then you are most certainly using SS (or another, DevEd only recovery). If you're using SS, then just wait for the ROM you are using to be updated to NHA. Once this is done, there will most likely be a firmware package available as well that only includes firmware (boot, aboot, modem, etc...), no system.

So:

1. Download ROM.zip to your phone and firmware.tar.md5 package to your computer

2. Wipe partitions as instructed in your particular ROM thread

3. Install ROM.zip

4. Reboot directly to Download Mode from the SS reboot menu

5. Flash firmware.tar.md5 via ODIN

Reboot to system.

As for TiBu, it should work fine. I wouldn't restore any system data with TiBu, only apps+data.

In your scenario, yes. Proceed with the 6 steps.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Zixx:
Before you do anything Just read around otherwise you are gonna end up Bricking your Device!!

Start here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2784860

[HOW TO] [GUIDE] [Q&A] - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S5 ROOT & Then Some
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] henrylife:
Can anyone link me the OTA file, I will extract the image.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Franzie3:
Agreed - I am not going to update Root method for 4.4.4 until things get stable. I know the current method of back and forth flashing kernels works but until we get some better stability i think if you want to stay stock and rooted then just go to NE9. Pretty sure we dont have the full 4.4.4 tar yet
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] wrongway213:
you have no idea how much i appreciate getting all of that information in one concise location from one source. thanks so much for being so accommodating to us newbies.. i hit you in particular with the barrage of questions for a reason.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Cerebro22:
I was on rooted NE9, flashed the stock NE9 tar in Odin, confirmed no root afterwards and software is saying its up to date??? What am I missing?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jeff_roey:
A bit of a NOOB with this stuff on a Samsung. Coming from a Moto and things were a little different. Question is this: If i want to Odin back to stock, do I need to flash the 1.8 Gig-ish full .tar or can I just flash the 40 MB-ish firmware .tar? I'm a little confused about the difference.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BeansTown106:
full tar is to revert to stock. firmware tar is to update firmware if updating base via safestrap/odin method
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] -Aatif-:
.Can anyone please share changelog of 4.4.4 update with some screenshots?

i have searched video on YouTube but no luck :(.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tennvol22:
Ok so I need some help. I'm trying to flash back to NE9 since I'm rooted. I have ODIN installed and the NE9 .tar file on my PC. I connect to download mode on my S5 and fire up Odin. The COM port ID is blue and I then go choose my .tar file. Odin attempts to add the .tar file and the ODIN crashes. I've tried multiple PC and phone restarts but no joy.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] demarco5:
ok i just completed step 1 and i got a PASS in odin

now im gonna try to do the 4.4 update

problem is step 3 wants me to flash a kernel? do i do the same thing i did in step 1? click on AP in odin then click start? or is flashing a kernel different

?

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i also ran into another problem i disabled SDM 1.0 updater when i was rooted and forgot to unfreeze it so now i have no way of getting the OTA 4.4?

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now i tried rooting again with towel root so i can unfreeze SDM 1.0 and towel root main it rain button just turns yellow and nothing happens

what a disaster
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BadKarma81:
When you add the tar (md5), Odin is going to do a md5 checksum on it, which can take a little time. You'll probably notice it says not responding, but don't close it immediately, give it a minute or two.

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Demarco:

Instead of trying to figure out what stage you're at, you may just want to flash the full NE9 from Odin and then factory reset your phone. You'll lose all your apps and settings, but at least that will give you a clean base to OTA to NHA
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] demarco5:
i figured it out, took some risks and it worked, running 4.4 rooted with no FC or issues

thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] airprohvac1@gmail.com:
Dev Edition Update?

How does this work with us Dev Edition owners?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jonnyd5:
I will test!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BeansTown106:
samsung verizon dev editions dont get updates. the best you can do is flash latest kernel when a deodexed rom is made from retail tar.... if u flash any retail full tars u will convert ur dev edition into a retail device..

Ya.. Basically Samsung and Verizon Suck
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
this update...

So does anyone know if this update also puts VZW's "advanced calling" features in our phone? It's supposed to give us the ability to do VoLTE and video calling...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] drivermcgee:
forgot to unfreeze sdm 1.0

i have the same issue as demarco..... I forgot to unfreeze things :eek:, and when i go into my about phone information everything from model number to end of list is grayed out. ota will not load
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] hsbadr:
Thanks [MENTION=5911581]jonnyd5[/MENTION] ! [MENTION=5601139]Misterxtc[/MENTION] has also offered to test. However, I decided not to release them since most devs here don't appreciate patched bases. Even though, patched NE9 stock files with VZW OTA on Linux (using applypatch binary for x86) are identical to what will be officially released; this is completely different than dumping updated images from device!

Anyway, the stock images should be released very soon. If they'll take longer than expected, I may release my bases.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bsweetness:
On page 10:

So, while I haven't seen confirmation of the advanced calling features being included in this update, it does appear that at least one thing was included in the update to start getting the phone ready for VoLTE.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] radpp16:
To unfreeze: settings> applications > app manager > scroll right to "Turned Off" > Reset app preferences. No need for TB Pro.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] weightlifter63:
me too....

I forgot to as well, what I did was re odin the ncg kernel re root, unfroze, re flashed entire NE9 stock then took the update, and continued with the rest of the steps.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PaEGaN13:
Is anyone else having SD read write issues after the update? My media players can't even read my SD card now. I checked the platform.xml file and it looks fine.

<permission name="android.permission.READ_EXTERNAL_STORAGE" >

<group gid="sdcard_r" />

<group gid=”media_rw” />

</permission>

<permission name="android.permission.WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE" >

<group gid="sdcard_r" />

<group gid="sdcard_rw" />

<group gid=”media_rw” />

</permission>

<permission name="android.permission.ACCESS_ALL_EXTERNAL_STORAGE" >

<group gid="sdcard_r" />

<group gid="sdcard_rw" />

<group gid="sdcard_all" />

</permission>