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[Galaxy Note 4 General] Wally93:
Belgian retailers say its the snapdragon version. I think i'm getting that one, more dev support and really, how much will the difference be? Will you notice this in daily use? probably not.. I don't think the 64-bit is going to be that awesome, if you want a good 64-bit phone wait till the next Note and give samsung another year to work with Lollypop
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BoBBBBBBBO:
This is kinda bad guys. Samsung Galaxy Note 4 [Exynos] delivers poor graphics performance vs. Apple iPhone 6 Plus: http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...r-graphics-performance-vs-apple-iphone-6-plus
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Most biased review ever note 4 exynos can push more fps than my ipad air on higher res. and push same almost same fps on 1080p res with 6+ . so its pretty much same gpu power on note 4 and iphone 6+

If its delivering extremly bad performance like article say i should throw my ipad air away which runs all games smooth. Its just a misleading article
[Galaxy Note 4 General] .Zubair:
SM-N910F is the Snapdragon 805 version

I wish I could post the pictures I have . But I am not allowed to since I am a new member .
[Galaxy Note 4 General] lawtq:
Damn rules! What are the pics of??!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] calim:
Dan Dilger's posts can be so wildly off the mark that you probably should avoid them. Even Apple crusaders like John Gruber had to point out his mistakes.

http://tracks.ranea.org/post/524619951/dan-dilger-exploding-head

The gfx 3.0 benchmarks need some looking into though. Could mean the snapdragon is the better choice if the tests are valid.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] JNetwork:
N910S = Exynos?

Well since the N910S is also the Exynos version (according to first post, and also from some other forums/sites) we shouldnt keep the poll vote, since it both has Exynos, and also listings/headlines should be changed accordingly.

If this is the case the original Antutu (and others) benchmark listings must of been making a mistake when listing the different versions.

Maybe there are 2 versions of the N910S, one with Snapdragon and one with Exynos, like an asian / Hong Kong-version and one other... since there are so many conflicting posts about this
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ar216893:
I think the OP can change only the poll option, few post back said that the SD version is 910F. But that phone version is not the main goal of this topic, the main goal is the SoC, SD805 or Exynos 5433.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] JNetwork:
Absolutely I meant to say we shouldnt keep it as it is with current listings, not to remove it only to change. And to clarify which version has what, so that ppl dont order the wrong version.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] The Black Droid:
You can choose what version you want? I thought that certain carriers only got in a specific model, not both models..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
There is only one model per country/carrier.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
Here are my short considerations about the SD805 vs Exynos 5433 war:

SD805:

Better Devs support

Better GPU

Exynos 5433:

Faster CPU

Probable unlocked 64bit in near future

Still in doubt in each version:

Battery consumption

Throttle under heavy usage

Ho agrees, disagrees or has something to add?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alexcarterkarsus:
Another review from China for N4 exynos version, N910C

http://www.igao7.com/news/201410/ifJxXL87fw85EI2u.html

The main takeaway I got from this is about the gpu, more specifically, indeed the gpu is relatively "weak" compared to the snapdragon 805, and it showed during game play like Modern Warfare 5 as it stuttered sometimes, but the reason is, as the reviewer measured, that the Mali gpu stayed like only half of its maximum frequency, unlike during benchmarking where it stayed at maximum frequency.

If this is true, it indeed raised some interesting questions.... did Samsung cap down the exynos gpu in normal usage for fear of overheating? And could this be removed by custom kernel chefs?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
The doubt about each version to get is killing me, and now this (!!!). Why couldn't it be simple?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BoBBBBBBBO:
While the Exynos has the better CPU, nobody knows if the 64bit will be unlocked in the future. I personally really doubt it. If they wanted to do that, Samsung would've said something about it. They're just quiet.

Either way, I firstly voted for the Exynos version, but I think I'm going with the Snapdragon 805 now. CPU power is similar between the two and you won't notice any difference in day-to-day use, meanwhile the GPU on the S805 is way better. I'll be sure to wait on a full comparison between the 2 models tho.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] calim:
The Chinese unboxing review here, http://www.igao7.com/news/201410/ifJxXL87fw85EI2u.html shows that it supports both Dalvik (32bit) and Android Runtime (ART) (64bit). I would expect that Android L being written as 64bit code will "unlock" the potential of the 64bit addressing of the Exynos 5433.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mwebb34:
Edit

Snapdragon 805 or Exynos 5433 is it possible that 1 or both boot loaders could be unlocked, on the Verizon variant?

---------- Post added at 09:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:14 PM ----------

[/COLOR]I'm probably gonna wait before upgrading to the note 4 and see how fast and far this device goes. Current device VZW HTC One MAX -bootloader unlocked & rooted running CandyKat 4.4.4 customized to the tee ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pcman2000:
All of the Samsung devices I've owned so far have had a unlocked bootloader - don't see any reason why the Note 4 variants would be any different.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mwebb34:
Iv owned the original note the note 2 and note 3 and none of them were the dev edition the note 2 was awesome easy to unlock as was the first galaxy note the note 3 bootloader can't be unlocked if your on vzw or at&t... tmoble and sprint maybe. but were I live tmoble & sprints service suck I myself have been with Verizon ever since my first galaxy note I'm with Verizon because I get a discount through my work and I get very good service inside the building I work at. I can't with at&t. In my situation vzw is my only option. I could save my money and get a dev edition, but it would be stupid because im don't have a lot of money to throw around. I don't think Samsung will allow vzw/at&t to sell unlockable note 4. There's options I guess if u wanna unlocked note 4 I'm sure I could find one. My point is certain carriers will not allow it, and the reason is....
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pcman2000:
I think it's the other way round - VZW/AT&T won't sell a unlocked Note 4.

Here in New Zealand, all the phones that I buy are International variants, which are probably why they're not locked. If you're on Verizon, then unfortunately I don't think they will be selling unlocked phones anytime soon.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Where did u findout snapdragon version is way better in gpu part?all i see is very similar scores in benchmarks. Well we know quallcom is lagging on san andreas and exynos is not i dont think they limited gpu to half power cuz i believe it cant run gta with smooth with half of its power. Mc5 i think has optimization problem for new gpu. And whatever 64bit locked or unlocked exynos still has better cpu. And anyway most or the people wont be able to choose between them and stick to local version which probably will be quallcom version.and quallcom has big advantage on development part exynos not realt getting and custom thing.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
GFX and 3D Mark scores are a bit lower on exynos and some people are getting terrible results. Take a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fswpNWQ2780&list=UU9cbw1mHe71NbNE-21TLoug
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Well its what u can get from todays gpus with 2k screen u can check s5 lte a version which has same hardware with note 4 quallcom scores are nearly the same 11ish fps on manhattan onscreen on both. (G3 with 2k screen and adreno 420 can even get 7fps only) And both higher than my ipad air and ipad runs everything very smooth as far as they optimize the games u wont see any difference between them. Unlike last year exynos and snapdragon difference is very little on note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Pako7:
firmware N910CXXU1ANIF showed that SM-N910C contains modem Ericsson M7450 (LTE cat.4).

Info about modem - Ericsson, Anandtech

S**t :p
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pcman2000:
Interesting - I thought it was using a Intel modem. I guess that could be the Cat 6 version?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] darkkain:
They said at the beginning that exynos version will support cat4 and snapdragon cat6.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Pako7:
I too thought that Intel modem same on Alpha. But Samsung always thinks and does in its own way .. through one place :laugh:

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I'm sorry, but if you do not quite know - do not tell. Such as the Korean version on Exynos5433 uses a modem with Samsung LTE cat.6 :p
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alex3run:
Forget about the benchmarks. Snapdragons are actually slower than Exynos ones.

http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/20/which-android-phones-win-at-gaming/

I suppose this time everything will stay the same.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowFlare:
Hm, does this have anything to do with Exynos 5433 vs Snapdragon 805? I don't see either of them in the comparison, and this article is old.

Snapdragon 800/801 has a different GPU than 805 (Adreno 330 on 800/801 vs 420 on 805), that's the game changer and what we want to see compared to the Mali T760 in Exynos 5433.

Did I miss something?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alex3run:
I just wanted to show that benchmarks are useless. They don't indicate real world performance.

Wait for gaming reviews ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowFlare:
Oh haha, got it. I guess you meant history is going to repeat itself, huh?

Well yeah, let's just wait till someone game-test the Snapdragon model, I noticed some reviewers have that model (eg Android Authority has one).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jamor414:
Verizon's LTE phones come factory sim unlocked and can be used on any carrier out of the box. AT&T and T-Mobile phones come locked however. I guess thats different from the bootloader though.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RiverCity.45:
I like lots of ROM options, and Snapdragon seems to produce more options than Exynos. I have a Samsung Exynos tablet, and the Snapdragon versions have produced so many more options.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mwebb34:
Yup its much different

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Verizon has a lot of discontinued devices and most of which the bootloader is unlockable, I have the OneMAX and the boot loader is unlocked but verizon has discontinued this device also, geeez I winder why.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markysd:
Is this the exynos version? Dont say much about it.. going to use it on tmobile usa..

Samsung Galaxy Note 4 SM-N910 Factory Unlocked International Model by samsung http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N2Y5ALK/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_iHTmub159SQJ7Usa

tmo Lte compatible ? Going to be my first international device. . My tmobile note 3 needs to be updated lol
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
The international version is Qualcomm. It has 2600/2100/1900/1800/AWS/900/850/800/700 LTE bands.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markysd:
I want to get the octo version exynos. . Not sure what one to get to use on usa tmobile:silly:

I just want to make sure as this my first time getting international version.

Also any good places to buy them from?

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Which bands do you need ?

In ebay you can find the Exynos version.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markysd:
Usa tmobile bands ..1700 and 1200 4g/lte..

I fears ebay.. any other good places to buy?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Mmm... AWS is the same as 1700 ?? The N910U has 2600/2100/1900/1800/AWS/900/850/700.

I was afraid of ebay too, but when I bought something I realized there is nothing wrong with it, you buy the products to mini-online web shops, they are not a particular person. And you can use Paypal.

But if you won't chage your mind use 28mobile.com
[Galaxy Note 4 General] wicklet:
Its the exynos version. Look towards the bottom of the page, There is questions and answers and he says its the Exynos version.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TANKRED_ENDURES:
Does exynos 5433 support HMP? I wonder is it realy that important. Cause as far as i know no app can utilize 8 cores, except benchmarks. For example exynos 5422 with HMP shows similar performance to exynos 5420 without HMP.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Yes, it supports HMP. And the big thing of HMP is to battery not for performance.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markysd:
Looks like it wont work with usa tmobile network :(
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TANKRED_ENDURES:
Chinese review contains some information about HMP in exynos 5433 but i cant translate it properly with online translators. Cant post outside link cause im new member

Exynos 5433的没有表现出HMP该有的“聪明”，一直保持八核全开的状态，一副“同生共死”的态势。

Exynos 5433 HMP did not show that some "smart", has maintained full eight nuclear state, a "live and die" situation.

Dont understand is it there or not :eek:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
There is HMP since 5422.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] wicklet:
IT will work, you will just loose LTE. I use the international on ATT. I still get great Data speeds even without LTE. I get around 10-12mb speed download. Im happy for less speed, than having bloatware and waiting for updates if the phone companies allow the update. Updates come straight from samsung. Which they been good about on my last 2 Notes.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PhatFishNL:
Hi everyone, I've been following this thread closely and decided to register. I got my imported Exynos version today, absolutely an amazing phone, feels sturdy :good: I did an AnTuTu benchmark test and got 50.485 score. Now the interesting part when going to the details of the test is that the dpi is apparently 640 (no typo). I read everywhere else it was 515 dpi? So is AnTuTu wrong or is this the actual dpi?

I live in the Netherlands and I am on T-mobile network (1800mhz band), and everything works flawlessly including LTE (4g). Guess I did my homework correctly :cool: Just thought I should let other users know for those thinking of importing. I have no idea if other carriers would work though.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Mad_Wolf:
Can you please do some real gaming test

play the games :D and tell us the result
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alexcarterkarsus:
It said: 5433 didn't demonstrate the 'smartness' that comes with HMP, and kept all 8 cores online, almost like 'live and die, all together'

The author meant that he observed that all 8 cores were online all the time, although it could just be that the app he used to observe kept them up...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] CLARiiON:
This new Geekbench numbers are insane in terms of Android. I can just imagine how Exynos 7420 is likely going to be a super beast.

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/954779
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
This must be in the freezer xD
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
YES! And please use gamebench app!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] yahyoh:
keeping all the cores online doesn't mean they are being used they are just power gated
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
I just confirmed on this link the brazilian variant wil use Exynos (SM-N910C). I was expecting Snapdragon (with Adreno) but... should I really be upset or it's a good new?

Edit..: The link is from Brazil's national telecommunications regulator, so there's no doubt anymore.

Edit2..: On the link, does anyone knowif is it cat4 or cat6? I sincerely didn't understood the specs very well.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hiepgia:
Freq = 800/900/1700(AWS)/1900/2500 (all are LTE bands)

Since N910C use Ericsson Modem LTE, LTE only cat.4 (150Mbps).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
Thanks mate, I doubt any brazilian carrier will provide cat6 speeds on short term. But would be nice to feel futureproof anyway. Well... c'est la vie.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hiepgia:
In Term speed, you can't feel much different Cat 4 vs Cat 6 as Internet Connection limit it.

In term futureproof, we can have 64 bit on this phone.

In term speed, dev can unlock speed on this phone as some review show that a limit (power/performance) that slow new Exynos chip. Samsung will improve it by updates but not the same story for Snapdragon, architect is old and freq is high, all optimization at very high, so not much improve by updates.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
Is it already confirmed that this chip supports 64bits? Last time I saw discussions regarding this matter was kind of on the speculation side.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hiepgia:
Exynos 5433 itself support 64bit. Same story as Snapdragon 410, android 4.4 hasn't supported 64 bit yet so now it running 32bit.

Android L (Limepie) support 64 bit and unlock 64 bit features.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
You just gave me a lot of good reasons I should be happy the exynos will be sold here. Thanks a million hiepgia.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] prodigiez:
is already on sale here in Hong Kong. got my hands on with the Exynos version. I dont like it , the screen transition is laggyy.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
I was in doubt regarding performance on Snapdragon but pretty much all the video reviews I watched so far was with exynos variant and was really fluid (great feedback from [MENTION=2181552]DelBoy[/MENTION] too that already have one). Maybe a faulty device or being a test device maybe too many background apps?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] prodigiez:
nope , the demo unit is locked. there is no playstore and even getting into the setting need password. phone was on stock live wallpaper... i rebooted the demo device and still the screen is kinda laggy on the first transition
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
Thank you, great to know that you could reboot it. Really strange, in a general way the feedback (i'm getting here on xda and youtube videos) was really great (still... I'm didn't had the chance to try it myself).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Power saving probably? And. If im not wrong even if ur country getting exynos all demo units are snapdragon.

Demo units are 910x which is snapdragon variant
[Galaxy Note 4 General] prodigiez:
Antutu shows N910U which is exynos
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hiepgia:
something like this? Demo unit here in Vietnam is smooth like butter :D May be something wrong with your demo phone. :o
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
My white note 4 is coming on friday! Cant wait! I chose snapdragon
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ramon2111:
I also been following this thread, so can anyone recommend me where to buy the exynos version of the note which can work with telcel bands?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] kkkok8051:
Hong Kong Note 4 unit SM-N910U Exynos (White) report duty at Malaysia?

Gadget TW Smooth. Battery last long than 12 hours.

Only this word (PERFECT) I will said. ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PhatFishNL:
Which games are you guys referring to? GTA?

Indeed the battery life is very good, been using the note a lot. I should say though that I immediately turned off some features I barely use to keep it lasting longer. With this I'm getting about 1,5 days of medium-heavy usage. One thing I noticed is that a lot of RAM is in use constanly while I'm not running any apps, about half is freely available. Only the slightest bit of lag with Touchwiz, hardly noticable. Oh and for those wanting to know about the sdcard support: I can confirm the note 4 does indeed support up to 128 gb, got the Sandisk one today :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BoBBBBBBBO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z-HQ4fZLeg

Galaxy Note 4 Snapdragon 805 benchmarks
[Galaxy Note 4 General] QuiXilver:
Here's a list of LTE frequencies per country: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks

We're getting the N910F in South Africa. I can't find an outright answer but can someone tell me if this is the Snapdragon or the Exynos?

Cheers

Edit: Nevermind, google is my friend: http://xdaforums.com/note-4/general/galaxy-note-4-versions-cpu-t2883741

Snapdragon :/
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iba21:
Congratulation for the test of the honor..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Ey, Are you getting the Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iba21:
Well if andreilx will create his kernel for note4 exy, yess.. otherwise nope
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
I got the Exynos version this time and I am waiting for his kernel too.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] chanhny:
NOTE: All demo units of galaxy note4 are use qualcomm s805 and can not make call because don't have sim function. For low price demo units, ss use qualcomm s805.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
I'm currently waiting to see if I can get one from work or not but it's not a guarantee and may take some weeks. I'm on a conundrum since I want to get the GS6 in the long term and getting both devices is expensive. Anybody up for crowdfunding? heh.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
XD

Do you prefer S over Note or it is because of the new Exynos ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
I ordered the exynos version too. Maybe this time exynos is better than the snapdragon.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hiepgia:
Do crowdfunding and i will in. :silly:

30-40 x 20$ = 600-800$. (Let's start it)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
What about the n910f?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] m_carleone82:
I am so sure, in long term exynos will be best choice with android 5...

I would prefer to have an 64 bit device ready for one year laters OS, custom roms and 64 bit kernels....

Probably Exynos will be better this time...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
Personally I don't think Samsung will update it to 64bits.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Neither do I, but Samsung presented it as a 64bit processor in a conference in Japan so there are some possibilities.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowFlare:
I'm at the edge of backing out from Note 4 now.... and wait for Note 5. But I've already sold my Note 3!

Using Galaxy S5 mini and I'm somewhat fine using it... plus it fits comfortably in any pocket too.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] angelky:
Im having the Hong Kong version N910U, does anyone have problem with the wifi connection? Coz mine usually swap from wifi back to mobile data, then swap to wifi again all the time. I think may be the firmware problem or coz i rooted it? :(
[Galaxy Note 4 General] prodigiez:
turn the smart switch off ? and yes root will break the wifi for certain reason because of the ro.securestorage.support=true in buiild.prop
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iba21:
That's sure
[Galaxy Note 4 General] angelky:
So, is there any way to fix it?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cmd512:
Sign me up! Although, I'm heavily leaning towards waiting on the GS6 now. If any of the previously launch dates are an indication, we're nearing 6 months til.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
I need to replace my phone fast, so if I consider the screen bluish shift bad, maybe I'll wait for the whale sized nexus just around the corner. Anyone else?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iggibar:
Maybe I didn't search well enough on here, but I'm starting to have doubts on my Note 4 order. I'm on AT&T and ordered an AT&T version without a contract. I really wanted the international version, but went with the AT&T version because I don't want to lose LTE service. How much of a difference will not having LTE show when I use my phone a lot for driving and using the GPS, while also streaming Pandora and such? I also have been reading problems with people having wifi and dropping signals with international version on Tmobile and AT&T.

I guess my main question is: Will using the international version on AT&T show too much of a slow down in data performance to warrant sticking with a locked down AT&T Snapdragon version? I want the international version, along with an a truly unlocked phone, but I'm worried about the compatibility issues.

I will switch orders ASAP if I get good replies.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Exynos version is working with at&t lte i guess a reviewer mentioned it. Check his older messages.

https://mobile.twitter.com/superscientific