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[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
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Another exynos gaming review seems very good and he says heat is low its great.

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Thanks mate.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] CLARiiON:
Not weird considering he might be testing a lot of things. 30% still in tank, so that would make it around 4hr SOT. And if he was using for video recording and benchmarks, then it's bound to take a beating.

People getting a new phone should allow a week to go back to normal usage. A new phone is likely to get more hammering in terms of battery.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hiepgia:
Note 4 get first update and battery improved much. So, all early battery test will not right anymore!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
It is said to improve the battery, did you measure it ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
I'd also like to know the battery life before and after this update.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cmd512:
Although I'm leaning towards waiting for the S6 now, I just donated to the "Perseus kernel development for Note 4 Exynos" cause. Perseus for Note 4 may just be enough incentive for me to get one to mess around with in the meantime. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
Any comparisons of battery life after update between snapdragon and exynos?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] KindaJackedForANerd:
Note 4 sm-910k problem please help

So I am from Canada and picked up the exynos version from a Korean seller on ebay.

Model number sm-n910K I actually have a huge problem. When wifi is turned on phone will reboot whilst in sleep mode after about 5 minutes if I turn off wifi it works fine. Note this happens even if I am not connected to a network the radio just has to be enabled. I am out of options I might rma it to the Korean seller but I think I might have to open a case with ebay, as these guys are being very difficult here is a video attached. I filmed it for 5 minutes but only recorded the last minute. http://youtu.be/ahLB0A2pCOM any help would be super appreciated thanks guys. I am at a loss whether this is software ie corrupt modem from improper driver installation at factory or just a faulty modem things I have tried already.

1. factory reset + cash wipe

2. Reinstall firmware using kies

3. turned off automatic scanning

4. turned off download booster.

The only thing that works is keeping wifi off. Any suggestions would be appreciated thanks.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] joelteixeira:
Very sorry to "hear" that mate, hope you get a fix soon. Have you tried a different baseband, maybe you could give a shot trying.

Have you received the new firmware, let's keep the finger crossed that it could help with this issue.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
I would wait for new software updates to see if they do something.

Yea we'll see if there's enough interest. Worst case you get your money back from Indiegogo.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] arjun90:
They could have employeed Cat6 LTE in the Exynos Variant. The Exynos seems Half-baked. Snapdragon is the way to go for now 'till the 810 comes out next year.

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Also want to stress on the fact that there is more ROM development for Snapdragon SoC than Exynos

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All the variants compared,

http://www.welectronics.com/gsm/Samsung/Samsung-Galaxy-note-4-n910U.HTML

Scroll to the bottom and you will see which variants are most capable, etc.

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Samsung should have released this device with the S810 SoC

How did Samsung even decide the whole SoC thing in the first place, haha

- Most likely due to Network Optimization and Infrastructure
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cillerbee:
I'd look a little deeper before making such broad assumptions. There is a valid reason why the Eyxnos Chip doesnt have LTE-A and that has to do with it currently only being available using Qualcomms Chips, who for better or worse are ahead in that department. Its the same reason why the Korean Version of S5 LTE-A ran Qualcomm chips even though the regular S5 in Korea ran Eyxnos.

It also does not make sense from a device release schedule for the Note 4 to be released with the 810 SOC. The first devices expected to ship with even the 808 is not expected till the 1H 2015. Even now there is little to no information on a single upcoming device with the 808 SOC let alone 810.

While I agree the Snapdragon version generally tends to have better support I think one aspect that seems to be overlooked is that the Exynos 5433 is the first Cortex A57/A53 SOC to the market. It was very apparent that the A15 in the previous generation of Exynos processors were no good due to the power consumption [even though they tended to out perform their snapdragon counter parts] but a lot has changed in that regard now.

The way things are right now more information is required before making a blanket statement that Snapdragon is the way to go. Especially when the new generation Exynos chips have the upper-hand in regards to processor node, instruction set and preliminary benchmarks.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
There is no 'valid' reason.

The only reason is money and manufacturing capacity. The 910S/K/T are using a Samsung cat6 modem, the 910C is using an Ericsson cat4 one, the 910H an Intel 3G one. Didn't see confirmation yet on what the 910U uses.

The original 910F was an Exynos with Intel XMM7260 but they scrapped that for whatever reason in the last 2 months.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cillerbee:
Yea I completely agree but when did Cost not factor into being a valid reason? The 910S only supports Cat4 as SKT which the 910S is meant for doesnt support Cat6 either, I can't speak for K and T. The 910U uses the Eyxnos Chip and therefore Cat4.

Edit: To further Expand The 910K is for South Koreas KT Network which actually only supports LTE Cat4 150mbps.

You can find all the relevant info on Samsung's Korean Website. I don't have enough posts to add links.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] astoncheah:
with n4, i hardly convince my self to flash custom kernel. because:

1. the display review has shown excellent result, so no need calibration like previously Perseus offered.

2. battery is one of the champion within the current flagship, so no need UV.

3. cpu is powerful enough, so no need OC.

the only thing i need is the wolfson sound mod:)

so i made a small amount.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hiepgia:
a big $$$ from Qualcomm :good:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hajyihia:
correct me if i am wrong, but i think the exynos version is better because samsung is the one making it, so they should be able to optimize the ui to the cpu better than the snapdragon 805...this is what i think....and about the gpu...the MALI has better optimization than the adreno....if you remember the S4 with adreno 320 couldn't run gta vc smoothly while on the galaxy S2 and NOTE 2 it was smooth
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PhatFishNL:
I have the sm-n910L (lg u+) Exynos model and wifi works fine for me (as does everything else, for that matter). Have you tried messing around with the smart network switch, (also under wifi options) or tried another wifi connection? I hope you paid using Paypal, in that case you can get a refund if the seller gives you trouble.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ryanalan82:
That's up to the game developer to optimize the game for that gpu.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Toss3:
Could also be the other way around (GPU maker needs to update the drivers to optimize the performance of a game).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
It's generally this way round, except that there is no "game targeted" optimization but general workload optimization in case a game uses specific code, etc.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] justbenice:
I stay with the snapdragon 805. Exynos alway too hot in my last few phone.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SquidgyB:
I haven't had much experience with newer (S4/S5/Note 2/3) phones, but with my S3 playing most games would heat up the phone quite considerably, sometimes to the point of me thinking "yeah, maybe I should stop playing now".

I played with GTA SA (max settings) and Adventure Time Card Wars (believe it or not AT:CW made my S3 really quite hot) last night with the Exynos Note 4 for a while - the phone only got mildly warm. Make of that what you will...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] lawtq:
Some Americans are getting their snapdragon one early, already in their hands. Hopefully we'll see lots of tests.

Do you see why lag at all in GTA? Lag in any other apps?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SquidgyB:
No lag that I could discern. Framerate slowdown with lots of traffic/stuff happening - yes, to a certain degree, but no stuttering/choppy/laggy play, all definitely controllable and above all fun.

Even Touchwiz doesn't lag or stutter - if it wasn't for how touchwiz *looks*, particularly in terms of customisation (I'm used to Bare CM11/Nova Launcher and being able to modify pretty much anything) then I'd be very happy leaving it stock tbh.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] colster1000:
Why are people saying the LTE on SM-N910U won't work in America yet the FCC filing shows it will? fccid.net/document.php?id=2381341#axzz3G8lJ0461
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
Because it (I'm guessing it's an Asian phone) has these bands - 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600

AT&T uses 700 / 1700 / 1900 for LTE. T-Mobile uses 700 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100.

The UK 910F has these bands and will work on either carrier - 700 / 800 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600

Radio's differ by region, not by Exynos vs. S-805.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] colster1000:
I get that and that's what I originally thought. But then I saw that the FCC file I posted shows support for Band 4(1700) for the 910U, which I found interesting and contradictory at the same time.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hajyihia:
your right about the gpu...but what you think about the ui?? i think it should run better and smoother on the exynos because samsung build it...so they can optimize it better...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cmd512:
Let's clarify that vague claim: Radios/software band support can be changed, hardware can't. If these Asian -U/C variants have the same hardware as the one tested by the FCC, then it has hardware support for those bands. We'll know soon enough as someone in the US just purchased a 910C and will attempt to use it on AT&T.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
I stand by my "claim." Hardware vs. s/w radio support is always a huge discussion on every late-model Samsung device forum. Out-of-the-box, the phone originally referenced supports the bands I listed. Without rooting and tripping KNOX that's most likely the only bands it will ever support. We're talking about a $800 device. Not everyone wants to play "spin the wheel." Especially when there are other Note 4's available for import that

do

finally support the U.S. bands without surgery or risk. So we're both right. Me speaking "out-of-the-box" and you speaking "future development potential."

To each their own. ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cmd512:
Anyone even remotely interested in the Exynos version at this point will be rooting it to put on a custom kernel, so again, you're talking in circles.

Bottom line: Your constant babble and foreboding of ordering the Exynos version gets old. We get it, there is no warranty, rooting it could summon the end of days, and repeat ad nauseum. You're going to have to accept that on a developer's site where there are thousands if not millions of folks flashing crap, there are plenty of us who could give a rats ass about all that.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
God are you off. If I wasn't on Next I'd have a bronze UK (Exynos) Note 4 shipping on 10/17. All I've said about 5433 vs. S-805 is that for the way most people use their phones it doesn't matter. I personally would be fine with either.

And here's a news flash. While XDA

is

a developer's site there's a decided trend toward leaving devices alone. Look at the majority of discussions in most general sections today vs. eighteen months ago (pre-KNOX).

BTW, I use KNOX and people on secured corporate networks can't root their phones. They can of course, but it places their job at risk because they sign security agreements that specifically prohibit using "tampered" devices on the Company network. Times have changed. And you don't have to agree. I'm just sharing my opinion/observations.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cmd512:
I'm off? Literally all of your last few posts are "Exynos isn't worth the slightly better battery life / performance" or "dude, you don't want to mess with that grey market no warranty phone." I had to remind you of Perseus just to get you off your podium for a brief moment.

Oh, I get it now, you CAN'T get it because of YOUR situation, so it's better for you to explain your sorrows away because hell, misery loves company, right? I stand by my original statement: Your comment on radios and supported bands is misleading at best. If the FCC tested model number holds true, it WILL support the US LTE bands (unlike the initial Galaxy S phones where the hardware itself could not support some of the US HSPA+ bands). We will know for sure soon enough.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Igor2142:
So in the end, what processor in SM-N910

S

?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BoneXDA:
How warm does the Exynis version get during heavy browsing and Asphalt 8-like gaming, over like 20 minutes?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] kristova86:
snap dragon 805
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
It has been stated many times it gets warm, not super hot like the exynos note 3. Keep in mind I still don't have it, but this is clear already. :o
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SquidgyB:
I'll second that. I played some games last night while fast charging too - didn't get nearly as hot as my S3 did when just gaming.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
My note 4 doesnt get as hot as my note 2. Its only warm not hot.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] JNetwork:
So if I want the best of both worlds, Exynos as CPU and LTE-A CAT 6 as modem I go for the korean version?

Can you confirm it has both of this?

Cause it seems the HK version N910U has Exynos but only has cat 4 modem.

Is it the N910S Exynos korean that has CAT 6 modem or all of the korean like N910K etc.?

Also are there any non-carrier specific versions in Korea?

Thanks!

Anyone know what modems it is. It seems ppl talk about one Intel XMM7260, one Qualcomm and one Ericsson but no definitive answers yet.

Fill in what you know preferably with a source

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[Galaxy Note 4 General] BoneXDA:
Any comparison to the Galaxy S5? The Note 4 SD805 pretty much has the same temperature under gaming while the Galaxy Alpha on Exynos 5430 stays significantly cooler. Which I why wonder how the N4 Exynos does compared to either. Can't really recall the Note 3 heat.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
My note 4 exynos throttles when i run benchmark. The scores were 15-20% lower. Need to cool down for a few minutes
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Pako7:
This some device from SM-N910* with AP & CP.

CP :

Qualcomm,Shannon,Intel - LTE cat.6

Ericsson - LTE cat.4

(ps.. in SM-N910H too Ericsson but H-model don't have LTE !)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] JNetwork:
That image says the N910U uses the Intel modem XMM7260, doesnt that one support cat 6?

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[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
Yep. But I wonder if the RF backend on the U is properly designed to support it.

Also that table says Infineon, but it's also SLSI for the Shannon modems.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] johnfranz29:
can anyone confirm if the N910U is working here in Europe/Spain? i want to get the Exynos version but im thinking if the LTE works fine here... thanks
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SquidgyB:
Your best bet is to look up what bands the N910U supports and tick them off according to your provider's support.

N910U (eGlobalCentral supplied, Hong Kong version) should do: B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600 ), B8(900), B28(700)

Crucially missing B20(800) for some LTE providers in the UK.

*Don't* believe what you see on eGlobal's product page - they list 800 as supported when it just isn't.

e: they've updated the product page - it's showing the correct bands now. They've also upped the price by ~£15.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] utopiate:
Anyone know for 'definite' which version we get in the UK?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
UK is getting the f variant which is snapdragon. Seems like most of Europe and America are getting snapdragon. Would have preferred xynos but tbh the phone is more powerful than anything we are ever going to need anyway
[Galaxy Note 4 General] utopiate:
thanks for the reply, aye I wouldn't have minded but at least the snapdragon gets better 3rd party dev support :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] johnfranz29:
Vodafone Spain LTE Band is 7(2600)

N910U 4G LTE FDD: B1(2100),B2(1900),B3(1800),B4(AWS),B5(850),B7(2600),B8(900),B28(700)

N910F 4G FDD LTE : B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B17(700), B20(800)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cmd512:
You get more custom ROMs (which 99% can be accomplished nowadays with stock ROMs + Xposed), but the development of kernels are nowhere near what Perseus offers for Exynos.

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Interesting. If this listing holds true, the Exynos version should in fact support US AT&T LTE bands. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] johnfranz29:
[/QUOTE]Interesting. If this listing holds true, the Exynos version should in fact support US AT&T LTE bands. :)[/QUOTE]

yah thats the specification i got from here http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/promotions/galaxynote4/spec/ and http://www.samsung.com/es/consumer/mobile-phone/smartphones/galaxy/SM-N910FZWEPHE

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did you see the Nexus 6 with Android L

Processor

CPU: Qualcomm SnapdragonTM 805 - Quad Core 2.7 GHz

GPU: Adreno 420

Memory: 32 GB, 64 GB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk-PY2dBKaA
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Pako7:
this table I make on the basis of firmwares these devices
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bronx:
Aaaaand that pretty much closes this topic. New nexus shares guts with my note4, that's enough for me. Exynos who? ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Kildemol:
I am looking at the benchmarks and I wonder how Note 4 loses and in some places is being crushed by Galaxy Alpha. Disappointing. I expected the opposite.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hajyihia:
look at the screen resolution of the two devices then you'll understand....
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Kildemol:
I am afraid you cannot blame the resolution in all cases :( another thing is that the resolution should not be a hand-brake while Samsung clearly knew the consequenses of qHD.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_4-review-1147p5.php
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
None of the todays mobile gpus can push same fps on 2k with 720p . And its still a benchmark it doesnt mean alpha will double the fps of note 4. As long as you hit the fps limiter performance will be same. Only samsung could do was offer a worse gpu with alpha to lower its performance they cant push the note 4 to higher. Or offer note 4 with 720p too with somewhat 200ppi?.......its all about resoulition.

720p phones with great gpu can obviously get higher benchmark scores.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Kildemol:
Forget about gpu and fps for the moment as the reason behind a worse performance is clear.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
If you want higher fps, just lower the resolution to 1080 on heavy games. Simple as that.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Bruce lee roy:
Theoretically no mobile gpu will every be capable of pushing same fps on higher vs lower resolution. Consider note 3 chip on note 2, nexus 5 on nexus 4, iphone 5s on iphone 4.... Seem more relevant to consider if chipset can handle the resolution its being asked to.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] CLShortFuse:
Because it doesn't support all bands available here. I'm on AT&T and band 17 isn't supported. It means I can only connect to band 4.

Band 17 is 700mhz, which has better propagation and less battery usage than band 4 which is 1700mhz.

Also, 700mhz has multiple bands, so don't just assume it'll work. Make sure you check the band numbers.

Edit: As for the warranty/Knox issue, I've never had to fix a phone by Samsung themselves. Sure it's a possibility, but normally, the only issue I have is the screen breaking which can be fixed by a third party. (I had my wife's NoteII screen replayed in Korea for like $50).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] neflictus:
I am about to receive the Exynos version. I wanted the Snapdragon version. Any reason I should cancel the order ?

Are there any advantages of the Exynos over snapdragon ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowFlare:
People are after Exynos but often cannot due to Snapdragon being released in their region instead. And when importing an Exynos, the 4G LTE frequency bands may not be available on the Exynos model.

Exynos is better it seems due to the use of the latest ARM cores while Snapdragon is using the previous generation. The next Snapdragon (810) will be using the cores of the current Exynos... so essentially... Exynos is almost like a Snapdragon 810. Of course Snapdragon 810 will have a wee bit better GPU. But still, Exynos is superior atm in regards of performance.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
The only real disadvantages of exynos are it tends to be a bit warmer than the s dragon and not quite as good battery life although only marginal. There will also probably be more dev support ie custom roms for the snapdragon as well due to the fact more people will get that version of the phone. Most of Europe and America are getting the snapdragon which is a shame as most of us wanted the exynos
[Galaxy Note 4 General] CLARiiON:
OK, now Samsung is making it confusing. They mentioned that Exynos 7 is powering Note 4.

Source: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/w/showcase.html#?v=smartphones

WTF is happening??
[Galaxy Note 4 General] JazonX:
If anyone still wants to know what is N910C (UAE)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Probably they changed 5433 s name to exynos 7 cuz there is no documentary in exynos page about exynos 5433
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Toss3:
That might be good news! Exynos 7 is being marketed as a 64-bit chip, and unless Samsung supports it, it's basically false advertising (could mean we'll see a 64-bit kernel for Android L!). :cool:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Yes here is the confirmation from gsmarena

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_announces_the_exynos_7_octa_is_the_old_exynos_5433-news-9946.php
[Galaxy Note 4 General] CLARiiON:
Exynos 7 was supposed to be a totally new solution with LPDDR4 memory controller.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Adrian Markus:
Chipset

Which one for India ?

Exynos 5433 OR Snapdragon 805

:confused:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ruchirtrehan:
SD 805
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
Yes that's still a different chip. Well for all intents and purposes I'll still call this one the 5433.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
Does this mean there's a chance that father Sammy will unlock 64-bit for us? :o
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PhatFishNL:
I'm pretty sure it's the other way around, the Exynos battery life is better under normal circumstances and is one of the reasons I imported. The possibility of having 64 bit enabled is another because the battery life would likely be even better with Lollipop because it's more efficient.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowFlare:
News over at Sammobile too.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hiepgia:
It have more chance now :victory:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] arjun90:
I thought it was either the N910F (Snapdragon 805) or the N910C (Exynos)

Is it the C version or K version that has an CAT6 modem? I thought all Exynos versions had only a CAT4 as per Samsung's website. :confused: