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[Galaxy Note 4 General] JiffyReturns:
Hey. I apologize first for the (probably) stupid question as I am a total beginner and this is my first post. I am about to buy myself either of those versions (it'll be my first ever android phone, been using the Nokia N86 8MP for ~6 y). Due to the fact that I'm living in Finland and every phone selling company here has only the N910F I would like to order the N910C from Estonia (home country). What should I be aware of or concerned about using the N910C in a country where the N910F is solely sold, especially when considering the networks/frequencies? And if I understand correctly, the major difference between Cat.6 and Cat.4 is the dl speed and the transmission area? (In Estonia the LTE-A is only in the capitol anyway, so it's dependent on your location). Or would it be wise to stick with the version sold here and keep the chance of having 300 dl speeds in the future alive (6 vs 4).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] azdine57:
Regardez "Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Exynos 5433 vs Snapdragon 805 - Processors" sur YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcLeYRZDkTE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

?

Envoyé de mon SM-G900F en utilisant Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 4 General] POLO_i780:
Hi there

1st may I just say much respect, no idea how you managed to use a N86 for so long (although a very lovely and powerful phone in its time).

I am an advocate of just simply buying what your country and network have due to warranty and support, BUT if you're set on the N910C then Network wise yes all you'll miss out on is Cat.6 as far as I know.

My network is already rolling-out a Cat.6 network and they sold the N910F so for me it is a win-win, but if you're not bothered about LTE speeds and all that then go ahead and get the N910C. This is going to be a huge upgrade for you, be prepared, I suggest buying a Case as it will take a while to get used to holding a phone of such a different form factor from your previous.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] JiffyReturns:
Hey, thanks for answering and for the kind words :). My brother suggested to find out if there have been different release dates for earlier android versions on Note 3, 2 (among the exy and snap versions). To clarify - will the Android L on exy/snap be released in a different date?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] huxley309:
Not to my ears, as i have both.

Infact i've had to change what iem's i listen to.

Meelec m11's sound great on the 910C, but my EPH-100's that sounded great on the M7, doesn't on the 910C

Clarity and separation is better, but the low end punch is gone, least for me.

Not to mention the M7 has a better amp section, powered my Ultrasone pro 900's great, they however hate my 910C

FXD80 and Sleek CT6 sound better on my 910C, im getting the impression it prefers easy to drive phones.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] POLO_i780:
Anytime mate. :)

When it comes to OS releases it is really a mixed bag, I remember the Snapdragon GS4 getting Android4.3 1st, but then the Exynos got 4.4.2 1st, I think its the same type of situation with the Note 3 and so on.

In the end, I'd say get the variant you want and will feel happiest with, THEN flash a ROM of a region that gets updates 1st, for example with Snapdragon N910F; Germany seems to get ROMs 1st, while it may be Poland, Russia, Philippines or India with the Exynos N910C, I am not at all sure.

The releases are not that far apart between Snap and Exy, it maybe a matter of a day, or a week, wouldn't stress too much there though.

Hope that helps!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gekkehenkie11:
Keep in mind that with Snapdragon, you will have access to custom ROM's, who will get the releases a lot faster than Samsung rolls them out. For example, the Android 4.4.4 release even never came out for the I9500 while it has been out for ages for Cyanogenmod (based) ROM users. And for example, Lollipop runs on the Note 4 snapdragon as we speak already, albeit it's FAR from stable at this point (they've just started) and quite some work will need to be done to get it stable. Anyway, don't want to start a whole new debate regarding custom ROM's, just thought it would be worth noting.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] g0ddy:
Best Note4 version for UK

Hey guys, was wondering, which is the best galaxy note 4 version for UK?

I can get the n910s, n910f and n910c all through online shops.

n910s is being sold at giffgaff and such

n910f is like everywhere and is seen as the 'UK' version so is easily available.

n910c are online sites like handtec etc.

I know there are different bands and chipsets but which is overall best and worthwhile.

Any help would be appreciated before I make a purchase.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Go for the C version.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gekkehenkie11:
There is no such thing as 'the best' version, it's totally up to what you want. Exynos has hardware that generally can be considered as faster but Samsung doesn't want to open up some important pieces of Exynos source code, so you will see much more development for the Snapdragon. For example, if you don't want to wait for Samsung to release updates, you can have them MUCH sooner with Cyanogenmod for Snapdragon. If you don't like Touchwiz at all, you can just install a custom ROM you like. But some people just really seem to like Touchwiz (I guess it's love it or hate it) and dont want to switch either way to a custom ROM. I think in that case Exynos would be the version to go with. So it's really up to what you want and what you prefer.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] g0ddy:
Cheers lodix and gekken.

I can tell exynos is a bit faster in some cases but as long as snapdragon is fast enough, im happy with either.

The other issue is bands and CAT. Like will the n910c not have the new 4G speeds being rolled out by EE and others?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowFlare:
Haven't checked what the band specifications are like on the n910s, but the only non-UK model I know that -fully- works like the n910f is the n910c. Maybe the n910s has the band(s) required for giffgaff network (which is O2) but missing other bands for other networks.

I'm in UK and I have n910c, battery is so-so, maybe below average. 4G signal in UK sucks, and my n910c uses alot of power just to maintain signal. Probably the n910f is more suitable with signal optimisation, I read somewhere that the 80x Snapdragon has some sort of technique to do just that. I made the decision to go with Exynos and it will have to do.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] log1234:
I had both the f variant and the c variant the reception is equal the power drain is on both nearly similar maybe on the c variant the 4g needs a little more. Overall its your decision. Both variants are good. But i would get the c variant if you have the possibility to buy it in your country.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] arjun90:
I found the Exynos variant's heating up more often than the Snapdragon.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
It is the opposite.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] arjun90:
It's definitely going to vary based on Region (Firmware Matters), Hardware (such LTE Modem), and Usage. I find the Snapdragon also power efficient in spite of the die being based on a 28nm process. It's only the opposite while playing games; however, never impacts the longevity of the device, thanks to the way Qualcomm carefully manufactures their chips.

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Also, definitely if you root the phone, the heat is relatively same between both chipset variants and then again, it depends on region and end-user usage, and bloatware. If any of the variants heat up without much occurring in the background, then its definitely related to either the current firmware or a unit that needs to be checked.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ausboy 2011:
The exynos does not heat up dude!! Its super cool compared to the sd 805
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cmd512:
Agreed, been beating it up with all sorts of 3D games this week, never felt warm! Even in the heads up YouTube posted a while pack, the reviewer said he had to wait for the Snapdragon to cool down in-between tests to run an accurate test as it kept overheating.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SLMI:
Guys do you know what's the difference between the N910c vs N910u, they're both exynos powered note 4s but what is the difference, clock speeds, radio, modems???
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ausboy 2011:
Radio/modem i got the u model which has cat6 the c only cat4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] arjun90:
I meant in previous Note Series, like in the R7000, had an exynos processor and used to heat up considerably. Battery life is still better in SD thanks to a more energy efficient LTE modem.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cmd512:
I am getting fantastic battery life when on 4G LTE here in the US with AT&T LTE. Point is, any claims to battery life at this point are all anecdotal, the jury is out on overall battery life until Andrei finishes his heads up comparison. Based on all anecdotal feedback out there so far, there seems to be little to no difference between the two.

(I am getting great battery life so far, easily exceeding my previous S4 which already had amazing battery life with Perseus.)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dazed1:
I get around 5/5+ SOT its not amazing, but its quite good, 910C version.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RCOMM:
910c is 3G only... 910u is 4g LTE
[Galaxy Note 4 General] log1234:
No n910c is 4g lte also. N910c has cat4 n910u has cat6 lte.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hiepgia:
Read whole topic please.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RCOMM:
Dear, I read it so replied... 910c of note 4 is 3g and available in Pakistan (Asia) 910u is 4g variant and is also available, but costs 30-50 more dollars (both are exynos)

Snapdragon 805 variants are H & S

H= 3G

S = 4G

all of this applies to Galaxy Note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] manook:
As has already been stated N910c is 4g LTE.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ausboy 2011:
C is 4g cat 4 adeerp lol U is 4g cat6
[Galaxy Note 4 General] monkley:
I have the snapdragon and I've just discovered you can say Hi Galaxy with the screen off and it will wake and go into S Voice, which is a nice feature for me. As I understand it, this is not available on the Exynos so thought I'd mention it here.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] andrew.mackew:
Yep, but still, Exynos is a better hardware for sure, more powerful than snapdragon. I go with Exynos.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Caribian1978:
the H is exynos, it has no 4G.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iba21:
Do you know other sites than handtec for the C version?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jocman7:
Exynos vs. Snapdragon

Which version is more suitable for everyday use and how to better work out, at least theoretically to upgrade to 5.x lollipop? Please also note that I'm particularly important everyday experience when using the full load of the system and as long lifetime of the battery. Access routes lead me both with Exynos chip and snapdragon.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mosesjadeb:
good day everyone i live in japan where i can buy snapdragon version of the note 4 ? thanks
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabster21:
I have the 910C and I guarantee you it's 4G, go kill yourself.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cmd512:
Please stop spewing nonsense, thanks.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] POLO_i780:
:D

Ron Burgundy never fails in such situations!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Kit:
Thats extremely aggressive [MENTION=621554]gabster21 [/MENTION] =_=;

I think it's interesting that Samsung has used such a large veriety of radios, presumably cheaper radio chips for regeons where they can get away with it?

I wonder if there is any additonal power draw on from the radio in the 910U model due to it being exynos yet with cat 6?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] naira1:
I also have the 910C and can confirm it's 4G.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Astronaut77:
Please check these links.

http://www.galaxynote4manual.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4-model-numbers-explained-region/

http://xdaforums.com/note-4/general/galaxy-note-4-versions-cpu-t2883741

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=55585998&postcount=1
[Galaxy Note 4 General] galijanach:
SM-N910C

Hello guys

I am in the UK and looking into replacing my Note 3 with the Octa core version of the note 4.

Do you guys have any experience with both the 910F and the 910C versions so you can give me some advice? Is the Octa Core version alot faster than the quad core? camera sensor quality differences?

I always root my devices but i am not intending to run any custom rom on the Note 4 as i was always happy with the stock Samsung ROMs. In terms of region lock, does the 910C come region locked to a certain part of the world or will it work here in the UK straight out of the box? I am also intending to use other international simcards so presumably if i root it and run "regionlock away" it should be able to remove region restrictions???

So far i only found a few units of the 910C versions sold on eBay. Do you know any other online shops that sell it here in the UK?

Many thanks in advance!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sss555:
I was in the same situation as you and had the N910F Snapdragon and now the N910C Exynos. The exynos version is faster and the user experience is much more fluid. The snapdragon version seems to stutter sometimes thats not to say it is slow its a very very very fast device but i feel the exynos is better. In camera quality i have not notice a big difference then again i have not taken range of shots on various environments to compare maybe someone else can speak further n this.

I ordered my N910C throw offerbank and paid £522 think price has dropped again. Its was not region locked and works identical to the N910F with exception to the LTE Cat 6 300mps its has but N910C has Cat 4 150mbs and to be honest even the iPhone 6's are Cat 4 LTE 150mbs so for me anyways was fine.

To conclude i feel that i made the right decision and i saved a lot ordering from offerbank so am quids in too.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gekkehenkie11:
In that case I can't think of a valid reason to go for the snapdragon, so your choice is easy !
[Galaxy Note 4 General] galijanach:
Many thanks for your comments. You certainly made up my mind.

This Offerbank website, is it Kosher? it looks quite "cheap" now selling it for £512
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sss555:
I was dubious when ordering in but it arrived in 3 days kosher !
[Galaxy Note 4 General] 3dward87:
Anyone knows where will be a good offer to N910C White, at Black Friday ?? hmm

Only Europe and with international shipping (Romania my case)

Also the warranty is available to Samsung Europe, right ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gekkehenkie11:
Samsung only offers warranty in the country you purchased it. I know from first hand experience, unfortunately ...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] virtuatony:
Is it possible to get samsung repair centers to repair it even if the warranty doesn't cover it, because it's from a different region?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gekkehenkie11:
No I also tried that, I told them, just fix it I will pay. Got no for an answer.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] A-Alzayani:
If that's the case i would really be indignant.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
gear vr dosent rely on any specific soc, it should work on both variants
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AngryDinosaur:
Exynos 5433 is 64bit
[Galaxy Note 4 General] KindaJackedForANerd:
Does anybody know where we can get a hold of this device? the exynos version. I am in canada and contacted gsmnation as well as expansys.ca both have stated snapdragon 805. GSMnation told me that they get both versions but when you pre order its random which one you get. Anyways does anyone live in canada and know where to pick up the exynos version? thanks.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
expansys.ca told me they'll carry the Exynos version.

"It is the Exynos system one. It should be releasing soon."

and

"It is compatible with the following carriers:

Bell

EastLink

MTS

Rogers

SaskTel

Telus

VideoTron.

The Note 4 can offer 3g, 4g, anf LTE Which frequencies are the following ones:

-3G Network	HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100

-4G Network	LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600

The Device will be more comptaible with BELL, TELUS, AND ROGERS since thos companies tend to have higher frequencies."
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
[MENTION=4167023]AndreiLux[/MENTION] Does Samsung implement some kind of "hotplugging" in his Exynos with the HMP enabled ? Or any power gate ? Because in the videos I always see all the 8 cores on with the CPU-Z.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Mr Dasher:
Expansys.ca just emailed to tell me that the first versions of the Note 4 they will carry will be the Snapdragon versions with no idea of when they will get the Exynos version.

Oh well
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
This is so damn frustrating! No wonder why people were lining up to get iphones! No bull****!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Mr Dasher:
I agree. I cant believe how much time I have spent researching this. At this point I just might as well wait until the Note is on the street to see how the various versions work.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
Yeah, if I'm going to spend close to $1000 on a phone, I'd better be getting the right phone! This is brutal, and I can't believe that people who aren't into tech are just being screwed around with these hidden details.

I emailed expansys.ca again - I may just cancel if they can't confirm the details.

On the up-side, American vendors have been pre-selling the Note 4 from anywhere between $650 and $800... hopefully, the Canadian price will be under $800.

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Expansys.ca just confirmed Snapdragon for me too... and they couldn't confirm which Canadian Carriers it will work on... :rolleyes::rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] yahyoh:
i really hate the idea of having 2 differents SoC's

like for real Samsung u can manufacture billions SoC's for apple but u cant manufacture enough Exynos SoC's to make one variant of the device ? o.O :silly:

i really like Exynos over any other cpus but they seems just releasing it for sake of testing propose since galaxy s4 , last device was having exynos as main SoC was galaxy s3 and note 2 after that they gone with Snapdragons as main Soc , maybe its cost them less who knows .-.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] erdemc:
Look at the galaxy s5 list. It would probably be close maybe same
[Galaxy Note 4 General] darkkain:
After presentation of Note 4 in Poland, they said that we will get exynos version. S5 had snapdragon 801 so not the same.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dannstarr:
I read somewhere that the international version was to be the exynos, and us version will be snapdragon
[Galaxy Note 4 General] frans23:
it's not because Samsung can't manufacture enough Exynos SoC

Samsung use SD SoC because Exynos don't support LTE from the first time

that's why they use SD SoC for those market who have LTE network

even if Exynos now support LTE, they still fall behind Qualcomm
[Galaxy Note 4 General] CLARiiON:
Apple A8 vs Adreno 420. I think the Adreno numbers will go higher once properly optimized in the final firmware.

http://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?ben...&os1=Android&api1=gl&D2=Apple+iPhone+6&cols=2
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
The Adreno 420 with a QuadHD display performs the same as a Adreno 330 with a FullHD one, it won't increase.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] CLARiiON:
http://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?ben...api1=gl&D2=HTC+One+(M8,+6525LVW,+831C)&cols=2

Manhattan onscreen and T-Rex onscreen, 420 on QHD is lacking compared to 330 on FHD. Difference could be like 10-15%
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
I had the S5 prime ( QuadHD+Adreno420 ) and in my tests the results were almost the same sometimes a bit better and others a bit less in offscreen test. It will depend on heat.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Andrewtst:
Malaysia is getting Exynos edition as well instead of Snapdragon. Possible this time Samsung is make Exynos as main SoC except in US.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mehrdadt63:
what is your experience in deference between of them about battery consumption . :confused:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sss555:
battery life i found was identical cannot really say one is better then the other.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RJUK:
Hi folks,

I'm having he same dilemma as most here - I'm in the UK and with 3 mobile, enjoying their 4G network.

I want a Note 4 so that I can watch YouTube vids on lunch, and want the best performance for video and web browsing.

I'd likely not flash a custom ROM onto it and stick with the stock Samsung ROM.

However, I'm not sure how having a Cat4 modem vs a Cat6 modem would affect my usage? Can 3mobile's 4G even take advantage of the Cat 6 modem? Or would there be no difference if I got the model with the Cat4 modem?

I dont' want to get the Exynos version if it'll be slower online or slower to download things via 4G.

Also, would there be any warranty if I bought the Exynos version online? As it's not a UK handset I'm not sure how it'd work.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] manook:
Cat 4 will be plenty. Given threes unlimited data I'd be surprised if they ever support cat 6. If you buy from handtec you get 2 years UK warranty. I had to send mine back as it randomly rebooted and now they are out of stock. Just ordered one from offer bank as others have said they are good.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] velimr:
if you are buying from EU Samsung EU warranty should let you repair it in an EU country under warranty.. not sure how is it outside EU, but many people bought it from HK etc. and can tell you more.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] -Sweeper_:
Mali T760 vs Adreno 420 vs GX6450 in GFXBench, Basemark, 3DMark - Very similar performance, the days when Exynos lagged badly in gfx benchmarks are gone. :good:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36944492&postcount=89
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RJUK:
I dunno, from what I saw when I looked at Offerbank they're based in Dubai and only offer their own "in house" 1 year warranty, which requires you to pay to send it back.

I'm sure they're fine if the phone is flawless, but you've already sent one back, so I'm not sure I'd be entirely happy risking it with them.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] WDawn:
Just a quick warning: the N910C is NOT compatible with the belgian Base(provider) network. On 4G it is impossible to make phone calls. Got my first one last week, returned it for another N910C, but had exactly the same problem. Even switched sims to be sure. Got it replaced now with an N910F and now everything works as expected. No real difference in speed between exynos or snapdragon with a custom ROM.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ausboy 2011:
^theres also no custom kernel like perseus yet either..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
I'm working on it. There's still a lot of new stuff in this device and it's pointless to release something that doesn't bring a benefit.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ausboy 2011:
I know bud :) take your time mate and thanks again
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Will you implement code for Cortex A57/A53 or will you keep the A15/A7 from Samsung ??
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
I'm not sure what you're asking...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
You said that Samsung wrote the kernel as if it was Cortex A15/A7.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
Yes but I can't just change that, that involves a monumental amount of work. Basically what you're asking me is if I'm to implement AArch64 in the whole kernel, which is not feasible.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Ah ok xD
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Azcaron:
We pray for you and we believe that the very least. :) Keep it up. :good:

Perhaps it would be good, at least for those who have contributed to the purchase Exynos variant of Note4 for you, establish thread - for now just with the information that the work on kernel already begun :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cmd512:
Let Andrei work on the kernel, I don't need him spending his time writing updates for us at this early stage. Plus, everything will be on github for you to read to your heart's desire when it's available.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
I'll be posting things on Github once it gets that far, I don't wish to maintain threads here anymore. I did update the Indiegogo to say that work started on it over a week ago.