yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fire TV General] skyball2:
...hmm, I started my AFTV with a crossover cable to my notebook and let wireshark log all the traffic.

The notebook was setup as 192.168.1.2 and I configured the AFTV as 192.168.1.3, with the notebooks address as DNS server and gateway. The notebook did answer DNS queries, but it didn't route packets from the AFTV to the internet.

After I manually set up the network the AFTV tried connecting for a few seconds and then displayed the message "The network connection has been lost. ..."

In the meantime, the AFTV made following DNS queries:

- 2.android.pool.ntp.org

- spectrum.s3.amazonaws.com

- ntp-g7g.amazon.com

- firs-ta-g7g.amazon.com

It then tried to open NTP and HTTP connections, mostly to spectrum.s3.amazonaws.com.

I will try some more things as long as my patience stays with me.

Another thing I noticed: With a USB keyboard attached I can get into recovery as described here, but doing a factory reset or wiping the cache doesn't do anything new. There's also an option to apply an update via adb. Does anybody know whether that can be used for something?
[Fire TV General] doom005:
Today i received my german fire tv too

I blocked amazon.com, amazon.de, amazonaws.com, edgesuite.net.

After a long search for updates the system jumps into the login and tutorial video.

Now i checked the firmware and its 51.1.3.0_user_513010720. The update was installed on 28.8.

The new firmware is 51.1.3.0_user_513011820
[Fire TV General] no_spam_for_me:
Hi,

no need to block any update at the moment, because the box comes with '51.1.3.0_user_513011'

(I know this, because I handle the box at the beginning without I-Net and later I block the important DNS's

softwareupdates.amazon.com

amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net

and I had seen, that the blocking works :) )

Because of http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=54964983&postcount=92 I do also some monitoring about the DNS's:

Without I-Net

------------------

spectrum.s3.amazonaws.com

2.android.pool.ntp.org

firs-ta-g7g.amazon.com

ntp-g7g.amazon.com

www.amazon.com

dp-gw-na.amazon.com

clients3.google.com

kindle-time.amazon.com

-------------------------------------------------------

With I-Net till user/account

---------------------------------

2.android.pool.ntp.org

www.amazon.com

spectrum.s3.amazonaws.com

dp-rsm-prod.amazon.com

mas-ext-eu.amazon.com

d21m0ezw6fosyw.cloudfront.net

ntp-g7g.amazon.com

prime.amazon.eu

device-messaging-na.amazon.com

ktpx-eu.amazon.com

softwareupdates.amazon.com

api.amazon.com

g-ec2.images-amazon.com

todo-ta-g7g.amazon.com

ecx.images-amazon.com

clients3.google.com

dp-gw-na.amazon.com

atv-ext-eu.amazon.com

-------------------------------------------------------

Here I have seen that the DNS request at softwareupdates.amazon.com returns the 127.0.0.0...

After the user/account question, I think because of the video:

------------------

dcape-na.amazon.com

cs-ext-eu.amazon.com

thumbs.cdn-ec.viddler.com

www.viddler.com

de-aftv-vfs.cdn-ec.viddler.com

-------------------------------------------------------

We can see, that EU and also Germany use at some points different DNS's...

The

amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net

is missing because of blocking the

softwareupdates.amazon.com

.......

The audio "BUG" also kills me at the first moment of the video, because normally my TV is at 100% and I handle the audio at my devices but no way at AFTV :(
[Fire TV General] cakruege:
Is it possible to downgrade there?

Here you can get the OTA-Updates:

http://www.aftvnews.com/software/
[Fire TV General] no_spam_for_me:
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-manually-upgrade-or-downgrade-the-amazon-fire-tv/

=> "you will need to be rooted with BusyBox installed."
[Fire TV General] cakruege:
That's a way if you have a running OS, but maybe it's possible to downgrade via stock recovery and signed stock rom.

Is it possible to get the update sided loader via "apply update from adb"?
[Fire TV General] Hitchi:
got this update today by auto update (got the box and tried blocking domains but doesn't work)

51.1.3.0_user_513011820

any chance to root or downgrade the box now or just replace it by amazon?
[Fire TV General] deewad:
Nice. That means DLNA/UPNP is working without root in XBMC?!
[Fire TV General] tyrell77:
Yes!

By the way: I am missing some Seasons within Amazon Instant Video... E. g. Californication Season 1 - 5, it shows only Season 6.

Does anybody know why it´s missing? (It´s shown on my PS3)
[Fire TV General] loplo:
I have the US version since April, but I'm looking forward for the German version too. Ordered it on the 5th of Sept (as prime), still no info from amazon regarding the shipment.
[Fire TV General] rbox:
To everyone asking about downgrading... There are only 2 ways to apply updates. Via a /cache/recovery/command file and adb sideload. Writing to /cache requires root and recovery doesn't support adb over usb.
[Fire TV General] Bob@Desire:
I received my Fire TV today but sadly I can not log into my Amazon Account. The Amazon Support also couldn't help :(
[Fire TV General] pxrave:
no way to root the german ftv :(

hope one of the super devs will make su work on this newer firmware ;)
[Fire TV General] mag13:
Nope
[Fire TV General] chriz1977:
Hi,

got my german AFTV yesterday. Everything works well except the DD/DTS sound in XBMC. I tried the lastest stable version and alpha version (KODI) but unfortunately without success. There is no option to enable passthrough audio. DD works fine via the Amazon player.

Has anybody the same problem or an idea how to fix it? Thanks a lot in advance!!!

Chris
[Fire TV General] furryhamster:
set the setting level to expert in the left corner and i suppose you will see the options in the audio menu
[Fire TV General] chriz1977:
Dude, you're the man! Saved my day ;) It works now.
[Fire TV General] Thomas Jonson:
works with usb mouse

Connect a Mouse on the USB Port then you can move around and select whatever you want. :good:

Playback works very nice. This will do the Job while we wait for the official Netflix App on the german FTV.

I tried also the US FTV Netflix APK but it will not work on unrooted FTV. You get massive Permission Errors and they are no way to log in.

Anyway. The Android Version works very well.

regards
[Fire TV General] Richard Alpert:
no root - no fun

Hello folks,

I have received my AFTV yesterday. After fighting against the automatic software update I lost this battle and let it roll. I am really pissed of that now root is not possible with the 51.1.3.0._user_513022820 Version.

But somehow, someday it should be possible, or what do you mean? A downgrade to a rootable Version won't be possible without root I guess :(

This **** ruins my weekend, so how do I should waste my Gadget Time?

Greetings

RA
[Fire TV General] no_spam_for_me:
As I wrote some post before, you can't lost this battle at the moment, because also without any internet connections there exist "Deutsch" as language, so it must be delivered with 51.1.3.0...

And I block the update DNS and thinking I'm win...

BUT was wondering in that there exist an update for the IR, but maybe it will find and download at another source???
[Fire TV General] blackstar88:
Hey,

can someone tell me what the best SNES emulator for android is?

I have the Buffalo Classic SNES Gamepad, the button works fine but the D-Pad don't.
[Fire TV General] tyler08:
Snes9x works fine for me.

http://sideloadfiretv.com/top-apps-to-sideload-to-your-amazon-fire-tv/

---------- Post added at 12:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:40 PM ----------

Is there a way to play with two players with N64 emu and two wireless XBOX360 controllers?

Works perfect on SNES emu, but neither N64oid nor Mupen64Plus works with two players on 360 controller.

Weder N64oid noch Mupen64+ kann ich für 2 Spieler mit 2 kabellosen XBOX360 Controllern einrichten. Der SNES Emu funktioniert hier einwandfrei. Daher gehe ich davon aus, dass ich entweder was falsch mache oder, dass der emu das nicht kann. Habt ihr hier Erfahrungen?
[Fire TV General] trahe:
Keyboard layout german not root

Is it possible to change the keyboard layout of the german Fire TV, without being rooted ?

I have got running FireFox fine and also (german layout) Logitech K400R Keyboard, which also has functioning TrackPad,

so far fine, but obviously it acts like having a US Keyboard Layout
[Fire TV General] hotochan123:
what's even more tedious is that the soft keyboard keeps popping up even if you have a physical keyboard connected...
[Fire TV General] AFTVnews.com:
Can the German Fire TV owners confirm what software version is on your device?

I've seen both 51.1.3.0._user_513011820 and 51.1.3.0._user_513022820 mentioned in this thread. Do both of these versions exist, or is one of them a typo?

Also, has anyone used Wireshark or other packet capturing utility to confirm if German updates are coming from the same domain as US updates?
[Fire TV General] horst0815:
51.1.3.0_user_513011820

and no update available here, must be a typo then I guess
[Fire TV General] fabi280:
I blocked the first update with the openDNS Method, which worked. After figuring out my fw is too high I updated, I don't know which software version I got before nor which one I got now (and I'm not at home :()
[Fire TV General] no_spam_for_me:
I think you didn't read this thread :)

=> http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=55668404&postcount=64

EDIT:

BTW I know DNS is wrong, but maybe it hepls people to better understand than domain ;)
[Fire TV General] Ultraschorsch:
Wow, that sounds great! So if this works I don't really care for root for now since XBMC is the main purpose on my end.
[Fire TV General] Richard Alpert:
I am running now 51.1.3.0_user_513011820, sad but true :crying:
[Fire TV General] Daywalker84:
That's no big deal even when your not rooted. You could install llama.apk via sideload. With llama you could configure actions like tasker does on you're smartphone. You could define an action where llama starts xbmc when you start an app from your aftv splashscreen. Try it out for me it works perfect.
[Fire TV General] loplo:
My amazon status has just been updated. Ordered on the 5th of Sept, and it will be shipped on the 2nd of December. I hope that until December someone will find a solution to root the new firmware.

If not, I'll have a rooted (US version) and a non rooted (DE version) in the house.
[Fire TV General] Peter_SG:
Same here :

SW Version: 51.1.3.0_user_513011820 ...
[Fire TV General] blackstar88:
[MENTION=1057854]tyler08[/MENTION] thanks

I have alredy installed Snes9x EX+. Like I sad before, the buttons works great but the D-Pad don't.

In Street Fighter 2 for Example I can't jump in the left or right corner.

I set up the buttons and D-Pad manually.
[Fire TV General] tito_puente:
I've also installed XMBC (SPMC) with sideload. It works good, I have access to my synology and also to my VU+ SOLO2, a linux sat receiver. But I have a big problem to:

Most of the videos which I am streaming from my network are only play for about a minute. Then they are aborted and I'm back in the menu. I don't think that it is a problem with my WiFi, because when the videos are played, they are played smooth. No matter if it's HD or SD source.

Also Amazon prime instant works very well.

Has anyone an idea what's the problem?

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[Fire TV General] Schlicki:
I don't miss root at the moment. Only the possibility to add sideloaded apps to the start screen is a little non-nice.

But I really miss a full Spotify app! This Connect thing was not proposed by Amazon!
[Fire TV General] Daywalker84:
Only thing for now i would use root for us to be able too pair my ps3 controller to fireTv for playing old snes games with. Won't by a fire tv game controller.
[Fire TV General] Schlicki:
Take a wireless, XBOX controller. Shall work out of the box.
[Fire TV General] Monarch2:
The Spotify connect app really sucks. Perhaps the "normal" Spotify APK could be sideloaded as well as XBMC?

Edit: I tried it and extracted the APK from my Nexus 4. It works, but it can only be controlled via mouse :(
[Fire TV General] Schlicki:
No, doesn't work. Already tried it. App starts but does not react on remote control.
[Fire TV General] Monarch2:
5421

Ah sorry, saw your reply only after editing my post ;)

I tried it and extracted the APK from my Nexus 4. It works, but it can only be controlled via mouse :mad:
[Fire TV General] Schlicki:
Okay, must try it again.

I also wanted to install the Sportsdevil addon in XBMC from Superrepo, but it says "incompatble". Any chance to get it working?
[Fire TV General] tito_puente:
Do you all have installed the official XMBC APK? Does it work for you? Or has anybody installed the SPMC version? Does anyone of you also have problems with the aborting of videos from local network?

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[Fire TV General] korkie:
i´m using the official xbmc version ....
[Fire TV General] Schlicki:
I use the official version and have no playback problems.

But I'm still looking for a working Spotify-Plugin.
[Fire TV General] Monarch2:
+1
[Fire TV General] loekf2:
Same here. Don't see a reason to use SPMC.
[Fire TV General] Daywalker84:
Ok that's good for xbox users but i only have ps3 and ps4 controllers. So if i must buy a new xbox controller is the same as buying the amazon fire tv gamepad. But thanks for the tip.
[Fire TV General] Smudola:
App for starting XBMC

Hi guys,

which app do we use in Germany to stop XBMC from re-opening after leaving it?

For now I'm good with the Llama-method, starting XBMC is no problem - but if i choose "leave" it always re-starts.

I also put the replacement app in Llama to close it after start - but this doesn't work for me.

Any suggestions?

Smu
[Fire TV General] Cirno5:
Xbmc - gotham with plexbmc and the plex remote helper running pretty well on it right now :D
[Fire TV General] tito_puente:
Now I also installed the official XMBC. But I still have the same problem. Videos are aborted after some minutes. I have no idea how to solve the problem.
[Fire TV General] d1dd1:
Did you try different Video Cache Configs (set them with the Amazon Fire TV Utility App)
[Fire TV General] tito_puente:
I will have a try later this day. Thanks!

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[Fire TV General] bootmaker:
4935

Hello,

I have no Problems with XMBC ... my Videos are playing and they don't stop after a few Minutes ... I'm using that XMBC: http://mirrors.xbmc.org/releases/android/arm/xbmc-13.2-Gotham-armeabi-v7a.apk
[Fire TV General] jupppo:
Had the same problem using WiFi, but ut runs smooth with a network cable.
[Fire TV General] tito_puente:
Nice to hear that I'm not alone. But very bad that I cannot connect via cable. WiFi Connection is shown as "very good".

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[Fire TV General] Calibaan:
Wifi connections are in general not as stable as wired connections for such streaming purposes also when they are shown as "good". Thats not only a FireTV related problem I´ve seen this also with several different STBs, TVs, Tablets etc.

A question to those who already have got their FireTV: are USB sticks or other USB media recognized with latest FireOS installed? I´m not sure about this since there are some related forum posts here everyone saying something different. Did also someone try a EXT3/EXT4 formatted USB stick instead of a FAT/FAT32 formatted one?
[Fire TV General] Rantanplan1980:
Are you sure you don't need the version with the PC dongle? How does the pairing work?
[Fire TV General] Schlicki:
You need the PC compatible Version, sure.
[Fire TV General] bootmaker:
ok - I'm using it with LAN ...
[Fire TV General] Rantanplan1980:
I have the PC compatible version but if it worked without the dongle I wouldn't have to switch it between my PC and the AFT all the time :D
[Fire TV General] Schlicki:
Maybe you can buy a second dongle? ;)
[Fire TV General] Rantanplan1980:
Then I'd have to do the pairing everytime I switch devices.

Plus the FTV doesn't send the dongle into sleep mode, the LED keeps on shining even if the FTV is in stand by.
[Fire TV General] Monarch2:
I have a feeling that the FireTV "stand-by" is nothing more than HDMI output shut down. I have seen network requests from the FireTV while it was in stand-by.
[Fire TV General] Kindle-Fan:
I had the same problem with videoplayback suddenly stopping. I fixed it with disabling MediaCodec in the XBMC Advanced settings. Afterwards even LiveTV works without flaws.
[Fire TV General] tito_puente:
Are you using WLAN?

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[Fire TV General] Kindle-Fan:
Yep. Never tried it with a cable because I have no cabling in the room where the FireTV resides.
[Fire TV General] jpde:
Same issue here, anyone found a solution yet? Pretty annoying when entering passwords etc.
[Fire TV General] Kindle-Fan:
I think it's like with the KindleFire HD ... We have to wait until Amazon includes different layouts in their update.
[Fire TV General] tito_puente:
OK, I hope it will work for me too. You only disabled hardware acceleration "Media codec"? Or also some of the other points?

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[Fire TV General] Kindle-Fan:
Only MediaCodec. But I uploaded a advancedsettings.xml to do a little more buffering, too.

<advancedsettings>
<network>
<buffermode>1</buffermode>
<cachemembuffersize>104857600</cachemembuffersize>
<readbufferfactor>4.0</readbufferfactor>
</network>
<gui>
<algorithmdirtyregions>3</algorithmdirtyregions>
<nofliptimeout>0</nofliptimeout>
</gui>
<videoscanner>
<ignoreerrors>true</ignoreerrors>
</videoscanner>
<pvr>
<minvideocachelevel>1</minvideocachelevel>
<inputstreamdelay>500</inputstreamdelay>
</pvr>
</advancedsettings>
[Fire TV General] tito_puente:
Yes, I have read about it. The buffersize can be configured with the Amazon Fire TV Utility too?

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[Fire TV General] Kindle-Fan:
I never used the utility ;).
[Fire TV General] redcoldblood:
Damn...ordered on 05.09....delivery 02.12 :(....
[Fire TV General] lichtblitz:
lo folks,

i got mine last saturday from saturn at the rate of 99,- €. i'm about to set it up tomorrow. however i need only xbmc on it in order to stream form my primary NUC/Linux/XBMC into our sleepin' room.

cheers

/lichtblitz
[Fire TV General] vinylmeister:
Check out the wiki on xbmc. There is a guide for it, quite simple installation though.
[Fire TV General] skyball2:
I'd recommend SPMC instead. There's no big difference in the App itself, but it can be installed from the Amazon Appstore instead of sideloaded, which gives you a nice symbol in the normal launcher.
[Fire TV General] mcclane66:
hello out there....

just one simple question. would love to know it.

i just updated my brandnew fire tv to 51.1.3.0, before getting to know that those fw´s are not rootable.

i just want to run apk´s on it. any possibilities yet (to downgrade for make it rootable) ?

thanks in advance

regards
[Fire TV General] Kindle-Fan:
Why rooting it when you only want to run apks?
[Fire TV General] mcclane66:
isn´t it recommended to root AFT for running/install apk´s not downloaded via fire tv itself ??
[Fire TV General] Kindle-Fan:
Nope, because you can sideload them via ADB without root. Mine is not rooted, too. And runs sideloaded apps like a charm.
[Fire TV General] vinylmeister:
I can't find this in FTV. Where is it hidden?
[Fire TV General] lichtblitz:
OK I've set up my FireTV.

I went for XBMC and installed it by using ADB from my hackintosh with no problems at all. FireTV receives streams from both "NUC/XBMC on Ubuntu server LTS" and from "VU+Solo2 (HD-Settopbox). Both are hard wired with a gigabit LAN network. FireTV is connected by WiFi (WLAN) with the speed of 300MBits (5GHz) to my AVM Fritzbox 7390. No problems at all with streaming 1080p media. However I had to disable MediaCodec in XBMC-settings.

cheers

/lichtblitz

PS: I went for XBMC coz there is no SMPC for FireTV and you habe to use ADM as well in order to install it.
[Fire TV General] mcclane66:
okay, thanks for that. i managed to get a few apks installed. got some issues with navigating or using controls within the running apps, but that is not the problem of fire tv i think. one last question please: what about obb/sd files ? could they be downloaded normal way or can i put them manually into fire tv´s memory ?

regards
[Fire TV General] tito_puente:
Do you tested to play a complete film and not only some minutes? I have a Synology and a solo2 to. FireTV is connected via WLAN, Solo2 and Synology are connected via gigabit LAN. Videos are often aborted after a longer time, 20 minutes or so. Until then all runs smooth.

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[Fire TV General] Bibabuzeman:
Anyone else having problems with the sound search?

When I push the search button and say for example "breaking bad" AFTV recoginze it correctly but says nothing found :confused:
[Fire TV General] tito_puente:
Maybe you searched for "Baking Bread"? ;)

Maybe something with" child security"?

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[Fire TV General] Kindle-Fan:
I don't know if it is related but mine had a few problems with sound search until I updated the remote.

http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire-tv-voice-remote-firmware-updated-to-v352/
[Fire TV General] Bibabuzeman:
Child security is disabled but I will look again if i were accidently searching for bread :D

Thanks I will try this :good:
[Fire TV General] skyball2:
It's in the american app store. You have to transfer your account to amazon.com to get it, but you can do that back and forth as often as you like.
[Fire TV General] tito_puente:
I'm not sure if you can switch as often as you want. Look at this article, scroll down to the update: http://stadt-bremerhaven.de/amazon-fire-tv-deutschland/

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[Fire TV General] Kindle-Fan:
Golem is reporting the same:

http://www.golem.de/news/amazon-netflix-mit-trick-auf-dem-fire-tv-nutzen-1409-109484.html
[Fire TV General] skyball2:
...o.k, so we have to be careful about this. Good to know. At least it worked for me until now.
[Fire TV General] lichtblitz:
Affirmative! No Problems at all. However as I've stated previously I'm using an UnPNP connection betweed two XBMC Setups. Thus check you Samba-Setup on your Synology drive or just try to use NTFS-Deamon. 1080p might not work properly on 2,4GHz WiFi.
[Fire TV General] jupppo:
SPMC is in the german appstore, but somehow marked is incompatible. I suggest contact amazon directly.
[Fire TV General] vinylmeister:
Yes correct, but not via FTV.
[Fire TV General] tito_puente:
Ok, maybe I should try also 5Ghz? I have a dualband router. At the moment I don't know which frequency I'm using...
[Fire TV General] Ultraschorsch:
I received my FireTV today and installing XBMC was really easy. I added my NAS share and it works fine. Just one thing: is there an easier way to access XBMC than to start it via Settings -> Applications -> all installed apps without root?
[Fire TV General] Kindle-Fan:
You can install LLama and make it autostart.
[Fire TV General] Ultraschorsch:
Thanks for your reply. But can I still access the amazon frontend then?
[Fire TV General] Richard Alpert:
Tell me, how is the performance on high-res movies or ISOs? Do they run smooth? Are you using wired or wireless connections?

As long German buyers can't join the club of rooters, this will be the best solution for using xbmc.

RA
[Fire TV General] Ultraschorsch:
I haven't tried it with ISOs, but the high-res movies I tested run flawlessly. I am using a wired connection since I read a few posts here regarding problems with movies that stop after a few minutes. No stops here so far with a wired connection and the speed navigating through XBMC is really impressive.
[Fire TV General] Richard Alpert:
because edhext

Thanks for reply, will start on our "long" weekend with this. Getting angry while fire tv is laying around and doin nothing.

RA
[Fire TV General] Ultraschorsch:
I don't think you will need all of our well deserved long weekend for that. I just sideloaded XBMC, added all shares and plugins I needed and was done in about an hour. So far the best XBMC experience here, especially at that price.

Let's just hope they don't block XBMC with their next updates...