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[X 2014 General] linuxgator:
If I recall correctly, the reason that the iPhone antennas didn't work right when held didn't have much to do with signal degradation through the hand, it was caused by there being two antennas on a circuit, and when being held by one hand it would cause a short between them cancelling the signal out. That is why the plastic bumper was their "solution".
[X 2014 General] aviwdoowks:
Is the screen brighter than the old X? Anyone care to post a side by side pic? Like the same white browser page?
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
I see some confusion about speakers in this thread.

I want a clarification on 2 speakers that does the new Moto X have 'stereo' speakers like Moto G or not ?
[X 2014 General] RyanS2000:
They are not
[X 2014 General] kamikass:
There aren't 2 speakers, only one, on the bottom...
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
Oh my God!!! Why Motorola ??? Why ????

You are giving such features on budget device like Moto G but not on your flagship :(

X is Cancelled again. :(

*EDIT*

But the Specs sheet is saying it has got stereo speakers : http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_(2014)-6649.php

Can somebody please confirm? I think this shock is gonna give me a heart attack !! :eek:
[X 2014 General] thomase00:
So, do you still have it, or did you have to give it back?

If you still have it, can you run Androbench?
[X 2014 General] aviwdoowks:
Is two speakers but only one for phone & two for media.

The above is my speculation.

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If only to confirm the sad comparison.

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/benchmarks
[X 2014 General] lafester:
No only one for media. Watch the launch day video from moto.
[X 2014 General] AndreaCristiano:
Benchmarks mean crap as the moto x OG showed it was more fluid and faster than other supposed benchmark monsters
[X 2014 General] phermey:
two speakers. one for phone calls, it is a phone after all, and one for media. There Is No Stereo Sound Coming Out Of The MotoX.

i dont get why this is asked so many times. all you have to do is watch some video reviews and such. the information on the speakers is everywhere.

[MENTION=4862994]itsalexaye90[/MENTION] - the huge black hole in the back. is it filled with plastic or metal? moto said it was metal. but the verge, i think, said it was plastic. i assumed after hearing it from moto that it was the same coated aluminium which makes up the antennas. which is it?

and thanks for running this post. are you the guy that did the sound comparison between the x and htc? like to put a voice to the name.
[X 2014 General] aviwdoowks:
I am only concerned because I experienced a very dim screen on 4 moto X's in a row.

One performance factor is hard to get wrong while fluidity is multiple. Please dispel this issue, I am not being just contrary.
[X 2014 General] AndreaCristiano:
I can not dispel the screen issue as my moto xs never had an issue with their screens. I will give you this my moto x has no lag and no hiccups unlike my super powered LG G3
[X 2014 General] phermey:
my three week old x sure has lag. not so bad anymore since i stopped using swiftkey. but there is definite lag in it. especially when it is updating apps. every motox has lag, and has had it ever since they updated to kit-kat.

[MENTION=4852563]aviwdoowks[/MENTION] - i never had any dim screen issues out of all three of my motos, but i have gone through three motos in the last eleven months. so i am not doubting ya. through my experience i consider moto about on par with oneplus on the build. the difference being that moto will replace their devices.
[X 2014 General] AndreaCristiano:
That's crazy. I had two moto X for a year and neither had lag anywhere. Now I didn't use swift key but my developers edition and the motomaker one flew.
[X 2014 General] phermey:
if you have had them since the start like me, then you remember how fluid it was back in the 4.2.2 days. it has never been the same since. it is just minor things here and there that i see, outside of updating. but if you really want to perform like a phone with two (now three) year old dual core specs... then slap swiftkey on it and use it for a couple days. great keyboard, but not worth the anguish.

you running art or dalvik? got animations set to .5? force rendering gpu? i am art (which lags the entire phone out while converting updates), .5 animations, and no force rendering. i would use regular animations... but i cannot handle the slowness between clicks.
[X 2014 General] AndreaCristiano:
Running art since day one. I didn't mess with anything else left it as is. Don't have any of those issues. That's why I'm selling my LG g3 can't do the freezing keyboards etc
[X 2014 General] Darius_bd:
Here's an insightful article from Anandtech about how Motorola's "Dynamic Tuning" works to keep the metal antenna from detuning.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8491/the-new-moto-x-intial-impressions-and-hands-on/2

I love this guys, even on a simple hand-son article they get into very detailed tech explanations.
[X 2014 General] eksasol:
GSM is not the official Motorola authority and they often have incorrect info.

Also there is a video on YouTube comparing the X speaker vs Boom Sound and the X was louder. I think the single speaker of the X is probably going to sound better than the stereo on G, just in mono.
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
I don't care about louder sound, I just want true stereo. I am spoiled by an old Nokia 5800 xpress music which I have had more than 2 years back. Watching videos, playing games an music with stereo sound is so much pleasure which a mono speaker can not compete. Both ears hear wide 3D sound if there are stereo speaker on the source. Mono will just sound without any soul, thats it.

Please have your hands on any phone which has got stereo speakers, for eg the new Moto G, and play some videos having stereo sound (original movie trailer), games, some songs etc and you will know what me and many others looking for. We can compromise on battery, no sd card support etc but mono sound, no way this time :)
[X 2014 General] sivarticus85:
I think the lag issue is more related to Kitkat than the phone itself. Jellybean IMO just ran waaay smoother than any other iteration, especially on 4.3, which implemented TRIM. Now on Kitkat I do see occasional lag in the lockscreen and the notification pulldown when new emails come in. Everywhere else though seems ok.
[X 2014 General] eksasol:
Well Erica Griffin wasn't too impressed with the Moto G stereo sound from her review.

[YOUTUBE]1lAHbpc8fW4[/YOUTUBE]

But I will do a full review of the G by end of next week, I need to use it as a daily driver for a week.
[X 2014 General] joshm.1219:
So much wrong in this thread lol I don't even feel like disspelling it now
[X 2014 General] AndreaCristiano:
Dispel dispel
[X 2014 General] joshm.1219:
The irony of misspelling that word was worth it lol
[X 2014 General] AndreaCristiano:
Sorry had my spell check on Italian lol
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
I think these can be taken as final words:

"It should be noted that in fact it's only the one bottom speaker that acts as a loud speaker, as opposed to the two we originally mentioned. This would be a disappointment, but honestly, it still sounds so damn good that we didn't notice. It honestly doesn't matter. It seems that Moto has tuned that bottom speaker so it could blast out sound and remain undistorted, then they tuned the upper speaker so it sounds good at quiet volumes when it's pressed to your ear. It's not quite as cool as stereo speakers, but again, it's still the best sounding audio we've heard on a phone"

http://gizmodo.com/moto-x-2014-review-still-the-android-phone-for-every-1633601557

So the stereo chapter is closed.
[X 2014 General] biggiestuff:
but maybe it's stereo speakers side by side in the bottom slit but laid out so it looks like one hahahaha jk :).
[X 2014 General] EternalAndroid:
If you guys need anything answered ask me as well. I have it too, I was at the event with Alex.
[X 2014 General] biggiestuff:
When using moto assist while driving does it turn landscape? That's one thing moto assist doesn't do right now. I have my phone in my mount in my car in landscape mode and assist doesn't go landscape.
[X 2014 General] EternalAndroid:
No landscape here.
[X 2014 General] biggiestuff:
Darn. I sent them feedback. Hopefully they listen to it.
[X 2014 General] zeifers:
Is there an option to remove the cell provider name in the top bar?
[X 2014 General] rapha.194:
What screen time on 3G / 4G using direct ?
[X 2014 General] EternalAndroid:
Can't test mobile data, I have an AT&T unit. I'm on T-Mobile, I will say it's great on Wi-Fi.
[X 2014 General] chak29:
Can you change the lock screen to pure andriod kitkat locker screen?I like the kitkat lock screen notification
[X 2014 General] EternalAndroid:
It is the pure android lock screen.
[X 2014 General] YankInDaSouth:
Is there a way to force driving mode? Sometimes having caller names announced is handy when not driving ...
[X 2014 General] EternalAndroid:
Greg T is that you?!
[X 2014 General] YankInDaSouth:
One and the same [emoji12]
[X 2014 General] EternalAndroid:
No way to force it unfortunately.
[X 2014 General] YankInDaSouth:
Damn! Why won't they add that??
[X 2014 General] EternalAndroid:
It's beyond me my man.
[X 2014 General] aviwdoowks:
Bump!

Anyone have both phones & a camera?
[X 2014 General] EternalAndroid:
He'll have to answer that one I don't have the old one in my possession at the moment.
[X 2014 General] erikiksaz:
Have you ever held an LG G3? How does the new X compare?

I remember the G3 feeling great in hand considering it had such a huge screen, so I'm hoping the X replicates that.

And how is the leather wearing for you?
[X 2014 General] Mayze23:
Using moto voice say "talk to me" it will announce calls and notifications for 30 minutes.

Also if you're at home just set your home mode in the moto app. It does the exact same thing as driving mode
[X 2014 General] YankInDaSouth:
While this is cool, I am thinking more along the lines of having caller names announced, text messages read aloud, etc. other times other than driving ...
[X 2014 General] Mayze23:
That's exactly what "talk to me" and home mode does while it's active.
[X 2014 General] EternalAndroid:
I have, my buddy has an LG G3. It's relatively easy to hold in one hand due to the slim bezels so you should feel at home with the X. Oh & I didn't get leather, I have matte black.
[X 2014 General] YankInDaSouth:
Interesting! So, if you're sitting in your living room and a call is coming in you can say "talk to me" and it'll announce who's calling? (forgive me my constant questioning, for some reason Motorola and Verizon won't take my money!)
[X 2014 General] Mayze23:
The new moto app that replaced touchless control has the talk to me option. You activate talk to me mode by saying "talk to me". It places an icon in the notification bar like driving and home mode. For the next 30 minutes it does the exact same thing as driving mode.
[X 2014 General] YankInDaSouth:
Ahhhhhhhhhhh, awesome! Thanks for taking the time to explain it! That's exactly what I was hoping for!
[X 2014 General] SilkyJohnson:
Can I come over to your house and pet it? I promise I'll be gentle...
[X 2014 General] YankInDaSouth:
LMAO!
[X 2014 General] gakofrugn:
Does new Moto X comes with russian language UI (not keyboard, but UI itself)? Can you look in language section please? I bought my Moto G instead of old Moto X just because of language support.
[X 2014 General] mbkintner:
What carrier are you on and what version of software is the X running? I don't mean just 4.4.4. I mean the full version number that's listed under settings?
[X 2014 General] erikiksaz:
Thanks!

And I'm curious, when they comp these things for you guys, did they just give you one for your network? Verizon for verizon, ATT for ATT, unlocked for Tmo?

Or do they just hand out whatever and give you a temporary sim card with a month's worth of service?
[X 2014 General] TBayTom:
Weird question, but is the haptic feedback/ vibration similar to what was put on the original moto x? The reason I ask is because the vibration/haptic feedback on the original moto x was a little excessive. Every time I would receive a notification on vibrate, it would rumble my entire work desk. It also made the phone seem cheaper, if that makes any sense. I guess I was used to a more subtle haptic feedback such as what is provided on the GS4 or HTC one. Thanks in advance!
[X 2014 General] thelandon:
Does the Moto X 2014 support Mirralink or have any type of video out support? Thanks in advance!
[X 2014 General] EternalAndroid:
They gave us one for our network correct, no SIM cards.

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Yes, same annoying haptic & vibration. Just plain loud.

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[X 2014 General] TBayTom:
Bummer, hopefully we get more development for this new moto x. I know it was an option in AOSP-roms to be able to adjust vibration intensity.
[X 2014 General] mrvirginia:
it's because of the type of vibration motors that Moto has seemingly used forever. LG was using the same ones until LG G3 (or maybe G2, can't remember). Samsung has used good ones since at least the S2.
[X 2014 General] hotleadsingerguy:
See, I'm on the opposite end of that argument. Anytime it's nice out but I don't have my motorcycle, I'm wearing loose-fitting shorts. Feeling the vibration from the Nexus 5 (notoriously-weak vibration) is downright impossible when wearing the shorts if I'm not sitting down. Android Wear has made that a non-issue, but I don't always have my watch on either.

Ideally, it would be nice to be able to adjust the amount of vibration, but if the motor can't handle strong vibration there's not much adjustment to be made. At least with an unlocked bootloader you can alter the vibration-level to take it down to your wanted level.
[X 2014 General] erikiksaz:
How odd, I thought my HTC One M7's vibration was much stronger than the X.

Anyways, good news, I'll be getting a 2014 X in the mail in the next coming days. I get to join the cool people's club!
[X 2014 General] shabbypenguin:
I really wanted the 2013 moto x but i just couldnt justify it spec wise when i went into sprint and had to pick between it and a nexus 5. this time around its on par and still sprinkled with motos awesome. i make no promises on what i will bring but at the very least i plan on getting one.
[X 2014 General] Elsydeon:
Is there anything built into this Moto X that lets you just double tap the screen to turn it on, and get right to the home screen? I know there's Active Display, but that seems to just drop you no further than notifications. I've gotten so used to just double tapping my HTC One M8 to turn it on and off that any phone without that by now feels like a huge step backwards.
[X 2014 General] erikiksaz:
When the display wakes up with your hand over it, you'll see the lock logo. Just swipe it and you're good to go.
[X 2014 General] AndreaCristiano:
There are third party apps that allow the knock feature. I had it on my OG moto x
[X 2014 General] Elsydeon:
Thanks for the info...that sounds good for when the phone's sitting on a desk, but I was thinking of scenarios more where I'm already holding the phone one handed, and wanted to turn on the screen without fumbling for the power button. Sounds like 3rd party apps might do it, but I'm guessing it may take something more at the kernel level to activate the knock to unlock. As long as it can be done by software or a kernel change, I'm happy.
[X 2014 General] erikiksaz:
So long as you grip your phone with your index or middle finger on the right of the phone, you shouldn't have any issues since the power button's right there.

I had the M7, which was a PITA to turn on because the power button was at the top of the phone. With the X (and any other phone with the power on the right side) it's not a huge issue. For the back-side power button-ed LG phones however.... :eek:
[X 2014 General] Elsydeon:
That's true, if it's on the side, it's not so bad., I'm using the M8 right now, so it's a pain to try and reach for the power button, the knock on is pretty mandatory on it. Don't know what HTC was thinking with that design decision for a phone that's already too tall.
[X 2014 General] erikiksaz:
Hey Eternal,

Did you get a chance to see how motomaker works for the new X?

Does the camera ring accent have to match the front speaker accents/side button accents?

Or are all 3 independent?
[X 2014 General] acomp182:
I see you have the ATT version. Can you root it with TowelPieRoot?
[X 2014 General] EternalAndroid:
Sold my X for the pure edition, don't have it anymore.

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Sold it yesterday I can't tolerate carrier versions & bloat. Will be getting the pure edition.
[X 2014 General] thomase00:
Can you confirm what Ars Technica reported about the file system using ext4 instead of f2fs like the original?

Also, can you run the Androbench storage benchmark?
[X 2014 General] EternalAndroid:
Sold it yesterday for a pure edition.
[X 2014 General] thomase00:
Can you confirm what Ars Technica reported about the file system using ext4 instead of f2fs like the original?

Also, can you run the Androbench storage benchmark?

Edit: Oh, I see you don't have it anymore...
[X 2014 General] shabbypenguin:
it uses ext4
[X 2014 General] aviwdoowks:
Bump
[X 2014 General] erikiksaz:
I just got my 2014 X today. Absolutely beautiful. I sold my 2013 X in anticipation of a huge price drop after the 2014 was unveiled, so I don't have it now, but I have another used 2013 X coming on Friday. The spare LG L90 that I've been using as a temporary fill-in is really useless, so I wanted something that'd be a better backup. I can show the comparison between the two then.

Some initial thoughts on the new X:

-It feels very solid, actually fairly heavy relative to other plastic flagships.

-The dimple on the back is VERY distinct. I swear to god this thing has to have some other function besides for being an antenna. I prefer this larger one compared to the older one. On the old X I used to always accidentally rest my finger on the camera instead of the dimple. This never happens on the new X due to the size/placement of the dimple.

-Phone is definitely large, but still feels great in the hand. Ideally I would have preferred a 5" screen. Note that I've got pretty small hands =p

-The IR sensors on the bottom of the phone make waking it with a wave so cool. It feels super futuristic every time you pass your hand over the sensors to wake up the phone.

-The microphones are much more sensitive on this X. I could speak out my wake phrase "moto, wake up" at a slightly-below-normal speaking volume and it'll wake, whereas the old X required a normal speaking volume.

-Absolutely no button slop on the power and volume buttons.

-Sound quality of the one single front-facing speaker is more or less nearly the same as the M7 w/ beats on. This is with the X non-eq'd.

-After using the crappy L90 with a physical home button, I keep unintentionally pressing the lower speaker thinking it's a home button, hah.

I've been trying to test out that pre/post-emptive camera shot thing, but I can't find where it's at. I have to find some demos on YT.

As for battery life and all that, I haven't inserted my sim into this thing. I use Tmo, but this one's a Verizon unit. Normally I wouldn't care, but I need my phone to be wifi hotspot-capable at work, so I haven't read up to see if it was possible on verizon X's.
[X 2014 General] aviwdoowks:
[MENTION=2436449]erikiksaz[/MENTION]

Looking forward to a display comparison.

Thanks for the insights.
[X 2014 General] Jack Sparrow xda:
[MENTION=2436449]erikiksaz[/MENTION], first of all congratulations on getting the new X :)

The dimple is supposed to be to provide a good grip while holding the phone during calls etc.

Yeah, thats one of the feature I am getting tempted to get the new X. :D
[X 2014 General] thelandon:
Does the Moto X 2014 support Mirrorlink or have any type of video out support? Thanks in advance! Specifically, it's a deal breaker if this thing isn't friendly with 2014 and up car stereos. Not trolling, but iPhone gets all the love in this area, and I'm unsure why? Android has had micro USB standard for years and controls a larger percent of the market. Moto, are you listening? Please give us a phone that plays nice with our cars. That is all. Thank you.
[X 2014 General] erikiksaz:
There's a "cast screen" option under display settings, but I've never used it before, so that's all I can tell you.
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
I think "cast screen" is for Chromecast and it'll display your screen on your TV. It sounds like the feature that was in the L preview

sent from my Nexus 7
[X 2014 General] erikiksaz:
Haha, side note.

My girlfriend wanted to get a silver X with a bamboo rear and silver accents, which so happens to look like the stock device for all the carriers. Because she wanted a lighter colored X, I had to order something darker (black front/navy leather back) so that we wouldn't get them mixed up.

Anyways, she gets home today, sees the new X on the table and freaks out, thinking I had purchased it for her since it looked EXACTLY like the one she had created on motomaker.

Needless to say, she wasn't very happy when I told her it was for Verizon and it was just for testing purposes :p
[X 2014 General] eksasol:
No that feature is available now, however, "Google Play services" is the app that controlsif a phone is allow to use that feature or not. If a phone is allowed, when you open quick settings menu and your Chromecast is on, the Cast screen tile will show up. For now, only Nexus and a few other devices can use this features.

In order to enable it for other devices, you have to root and use this app: http://xdaforums.com/hardware-hacking/chromecast/experimental-enable-mirroring-device-t2812193
[X 2014 General] jal3223:
Hey man, [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] is looking for a Verizon system dump. Do you think you can help him out?
[X 2014 General] jal3223:
Duplicate post
[X 2014 General] erikiksaz:
I just sent him a PM. I'll help out any way I can! We're super fortunate to have folks like him on board.
[X 2014 General] jal3223:
Awesome man! Thank you for contributing to a good cause.
[X 2014 General] YankInDaSouth:
This is very exciting! LOL
[X 2014 General] nickobarsotti:
Hey guys! I just bought this phone and it's a very cool phone but I think the front camera has a problem :confused:

It's so laggy!! Damn, I hope for an update to solve this up.
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
Could you try the Google Camera to see if there is still lag with the front camera?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[X 2014 General] erikiksaz:
Yeah, mine runs a little choppy too. Ehh, don't give a crap, never taken a selfie, don't intend to either.

Anyways, I'm fairly sure the camera app will be updated before the X's get released. The current feature of the camera taking pre-emptive shots isn't in the gallery at this point.

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Same if not worse with the google camera.
[X 2014 General] 0.0:
are you in a place where there is not much light? I read something from one user with the same problem. he went into a store with a lot of lights, and the front camera was able to take a pic with no lag
[X 2014 General] nickobarsotti:
Dude the camera lags in any kind of light event with other apps :crying: and it is a very ugly lag I think my generic 1.3 mp Webcam is better, seriously :eek:
[X 2014 General] biggiestuff:
good news is that it's probably software, can be updated quickly via google play store.
[X 2014 General] nickobarsotti:
It is updated already..
[X 2014 General] biggiestuff:
But if it's a bug just report and they will probably fix it soon hopefully.
[X 2014 General] phermey:
maybe when you are holding it and it is off... the hand will cross the path of the sensor and turn the screen on for ya as you are moving your thumb to unlock. if they can do that... then it will be just as fast and enjoyable to unlock as double tap.