yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cmd512:
I had a Snapdragon S4, and no, AOSP didn't offer anywhere close to the stock ROM features. Feel free to try again.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gekkehenkie11:
I'm trying to decide if you work for Samsung or just have some mental illness. Really, S4 on touchwiz was the worst thing ever !!! Samsung never even bothered to release the stable 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 updates (and really, when do you expect Samsung to release lollipop for your note, Haha) ! Samsung's Memory management was so buggy that cam would just crash if you had too many apps open. And the interface was just extremely laggy, buggy and slow in general (even way worse than Note 4 stock interface). And here you go, defending S4 stock Touchwiz, haha :laugh:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cmd512:
You're one of those people that like to scream the "sky is falling" to justify your point of view. No one buys it, and anyone who has used an AOSP ROM REGARDLESS of which CPU the device has knows this to be the case. Keep ranting and throwing a fit in your corner though, it's entertaining to say the least. :good:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ausboy 2011:
What drugs are you on? Aosp can suck a d*** as if you'd purchase a device and than flash it with aosp and loose all those features LOL!! Actually it sounds like a sd fan chose wrong and wants the superior exynos model.. makes sense
[Galaxy Note 4 General] POLO_i780:
I'm a Snapdragon N910F user, I am quite happy with TouchWiz, I am not facing lag, and enjoying incredible battery life. I plan on trying AOSP for about a week or 2, but the fact that it takes away the SPen features that I depend on heavily like Smart Select, means I won't be able to stick with it, not at all, but it is great to have the option of a stable and complete AOSP build, for when I get bored.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pikul:
I dont want to bash on aosp lovers but if we are talking with full honesty, gotta say i really dont see the logic in buying a Note 4 to lose all the samsung functions that touchwiz can provide, i you wanted aosp then the smart thing would of been getting a nexus phone, or a lg g3 or even a Z3 or a one plus one, anything that would not lose so much features, and to say touchwiz runs really slow ands truly hating because this thing performs great, ive been i long time htc user and still have my old One M7 but the Note 4 ita a amazing device with everything that its packing

Sent from my Galaxy NOTE 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Touchwiz slow? Like this?

[YOUTUBE]DV2X51kAVfc[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SJGSM:
If you guys are able to root and spoil a Brand new Note 4 with an AOSP rom, that means that you guys have enough money to play with . Then I would recommend you to get 2 phones:

A Note 4 to play with TouchWiz.

A Nexus 6 to play with AOSP.

Spoiling a Note 4 with AOSP is like someone said Tuning your brand new Ferrari car with a Chevy option parts.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Which model did Malaysia get last year ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Andrewtst:
Last year Note 3 is snapdragon 800.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
So there are posibilities of the Exynos version being the international version.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
It depends on how much manufacturing capacity they have. The model distribution should have been the same as the Galaxy S3, however Europe seems to have gotten a change last minute and getting an S805 version instead (in western Europe).

Anyway interesting that the 910C is an LTE model. I thought the 910U would be one.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Andrewtst:
Beside US, I think only country that run CAT6 is getting the S805, from information I get, Singapore is getting the S805.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
I think all S805 models are Cat6. Qualcomm bundles the MDM9x35 with the SoC.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Andrewtst:
S805 is CAT6, but the Exynos 5433 is only CAT4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Pako7:
not fact :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Minto107:
For me Exynos is a better choice. I had Xperia M2 and Galaxy S III to choose. I've chosen S3 because of Exynos. I had it before on my S2 and I had One S S3 and One S S4 Play. In fact One S4 was faster than S2 because S4 CPU was newer architecture and it had better specification. But S2 was more stable, and it's firmware was better than on HTC. For me only Exynos.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] xvital:
Anyone know how i can Pre Order the exynos edition inside the U.S. ?:D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TANKRED_ENDURES:
russian exynos version review confirms 16 core mali t760

mobile-review.com/review/samsung-galaxy-note4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
OMG, that's the most detailed review I've ever seen for any device on any website! :good::good::good:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] KindaJackedForANerd:
wow

well guys I found a exynos on ebay going for 1500!!! holy ****. Is that the price were expecting to pay.... if it is. I think I ll just wait a little while until I pick one of these bad boys up.... heres the link. http://www.ebay.ca/itm/SAMSUNG-GALA...71619&clkid=723762963032193403&_qi=RTM1921698
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
LOL... it's selling for US$650 - $800 in US retail stores... no way I'd touch that ebay model - Exynos or not, I won't do it. I'll be perfectly fine with a Snapdragon 805 at half the price.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] KindaJackedForANerd:
LOL same with me that is nuts. gsmnation is selling for 729.99 that's more where it should be the only issue with them is they say its like Russian roullete you preorder I quote "we send you either or whatever we get in stock, you have no choice what model you recieve' lol so stupid. why not just put up two separate models that way the guys who want snap can get snap the guys who want exynos get exynos.. seems like a no brainer to me.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
I've got it pre-ordered at expansys.ca, but there's no price yet... I'll likely shop around if it's more than CDN$800 - we've got lots of time to decide it seems :(
[Galaxy Note 4 General] KindaJackedForANerd:
be careful with those guys... Everytime I talk to someone its a different story.. But honestly avoid ebay at all costs. Things tend to be overinflated there.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
I bought my note 2 from them without problems (they even invoiced me with a lower price than I expected), but they've already changed their stories on the specs once... I'll keep an eye out. GSMnation.ca doesn't list the note 4 yet.

The only think I get from ebay for my devices are cheapo TPU cases... just ordered a clear one an hour ago, so it'll be here in time for the Note 4... I hate waiting for cases after the phone comes in - that 2-3 week shipping time to get here is always risky business for scratches and stuff. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] KindaJackedForANerd:
out of curiosity which version are you going with snap or exynos?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Mostly they have more spare time to waste. If not they would just go and buy a nexus or moto x , turbo if they cared bug free aosp rom today not months later. Even on my nexus 4 i can use android 5.0 today. But they bought a brand new phone and trying to fix bugs For nothing nexus 6 is there for ultimate aosp rom usage with almost same specs

i still have snapdragon note 3 and its just waste of time to put aosp in it. aosp worth something if samsung drops support for it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SJGSM:
I have both, the Note 3 rooted with AOSP to play with , and my Note 4 stock rom Non rooted (I don't want to spoil).

I Must admit that my Note 3 rooted with AOSP is very fast and fun to play with.

But I don't have enough money to spoil my brand new Ferrari Exynos Note 4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gekkehenkie11:
Of course man. I've bought the S1 to S4 (and now Note 4), and rooted and AOSP-ed every single time. My S2 with AOSP would run faster and smoother than the S4 with touchwiz. Some people here just don't want to admit that while Samsung is the best at hardware, they just suck at programming and keep pushing that lousy touchwiz of them cause they make tons of money pushing their bloatware that way and they just dont care that it destroys the whole user experience. And the Samsung sheep dont want to admit it. Some of you guys are even worse than those Iphone fanboys :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] 3dward87:
[MENTION=3296134]gekkehenkie11[/MENTION]

I think everyone explains you in their ways how non-sense is your believes.

We understand your concerns, but please stop spamming the forum with the same bull****.

Most of users from this forum tried differents ROMs, dont teach us what is good or not, even the older ones.. why you should have account here in first place if we dont flash roms ?

AOSP is a clean ROM, without any features.. WE BUY NOTE 4 for his features, try to understand that !!!

Thanks

BTW: I will go for N910C, I choose smother option and maybe a 64bit version.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Whiskey103:
Guys/Galls.... please stop this trolling and/or otherwise rubish.

This thread is about : exynos vs snapdragon NOT: touchwiz versus aosp.

Please keep the posts ON-Topic

PS: HTC Sense ROCKS!!! *starts running* :p:p

Whiskey

Forum Moderator
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ausboy 2011:
Yeah you better run.. bloody htc lover :P
[Galaxy Note 4 General] OLYMPIAKOI:
The question is to Snapdragon 810 or to Exynos 7420?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ausboy 2011:
Exynos 7420 easy answer
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SJGSM:
Defend your reasoning.

Both will be Quad-core ARM® Cortex™ A57 and quad-core A53 with 64-bit support.

The only difference will be the GPU. Adreno vs Mali.

https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/810

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/m/solution.html#?v=7octa
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jocman7:
wolfson

I have not tried the comparison with 910f. But I can say that I was very positively surprised about the quality of the sound with headphones during the original Note and Note 4th:D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] erahk64:
Samsung has started production of Apples next processor using 14 nm technology.

http://english.etnews.com/electronics/2969056_1303.html

So the Exynos processor for the Note 5 will probably use 14 nm technology.

Snapdragon 810 is using 20 nm technology.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iba21:
And the 20nm?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SJGSM:
I think Samsung will be smart enough to leave the 14nm technology for the Note 6.

Is is a business strategy.

The Note 4 could already have been Snapdragon 810 and Exynos 7420.

But business sense say to sell the old ones about to expire first and sell the new ones later.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jocman7:
whatewer

I'm not saying that TouchWiz respond to command a little later but there is no jerkines. Otherwise, for the average user TouchWiz not even bad. What will you lollipop in 3GB and 32 bit support more than us? I think anyone who draws a line under all take the lesser evil.

---------- Post added at 06:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:06 PM ----------

You hawe a point there...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iba21:
I think the same.. the real is in qualcomm's site the 810 is biuld in 20nm.. and.. i don't think productors will release the 16/14nm so soon, why?

1) upgrading machines costs

2) after the 16/14 nm what they will present?

Probabily the new note5 will have a 20nm 64bit and the note6 will have an "upgrade" of the transistor size..

That's could be the most logical way to slow down all the market upgrade
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SJGSM:
Yes that is live, The Internet was developed in the 60's but it only became commercial in the 90's.

I am pretty sure that today's most powerful Governments and Companies already have in their labs Quantum Computer Smartphones, that they will only release to the comercial markets 50 years from now.

The live cycle of new technologies always go back and forth. 3D movies was developed comercially in the 50's. Then it was forgotten. And they are back 50 years later still with the same dumb technology of Polirized Glasses.

---------- Post added at 09:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:47 PM ----------

Snapdragon 805 vs Exynos 5433?

Snapdragon 805 still has 28nm technology

Exynos 5433 is already 20nm tech.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
Where do you people pull this nonsense from...

The 7420 is 14nm and will be in the S6.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SJGSM:
Where do you pull that nonsense from?

7420 is still 20nm technology here is the proof :

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/m/solution.html#?v=7octa
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
That's the 5433...

The 7420 is 14nm and in production right now as we talk.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SJGSM:
Here is the 5433 (also 20nm)

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/m/solution.html#?v=octa_5430

14nm will be the future Exynos 9 octa 9420

That is the debate in this thread : Snapdragon 805 vs Exynos 5433

Snapdragon 805 is 28nm

Exynos 5433 is 20nm

-----------------

Exynos 7420 is 20nm

Exynos 9420 is 14nm
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
Do you even read the link you post? That's the 5430.

9420 lol... enjoy your shenanigans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrpVceyWO-U

Take a good guess what chip is running in the background there. Certainly isn't a "9420" I can assure you. And this was from early October.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dazed1:
Did anyone had a chance to compare the cameras on the S805 vs Exynos?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SJGSM:
Ok, you're write. And I am pretty sure that the are already experimenting with just only: 1nm technology.

But the question here is:

Snapdragon 805 (28nm) vs Exynos 5433 (20nm)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] booncol:
I've just switched from N910F to N910C. For now I have two Galaxy Notes, one with Snapdragon, second with Exynos.

Both devices configured the same way, disabled and installed the same apps.

Note N910C is for sure better unit. All animations are much smoother. On Snapdragon I had scrolling lags and stuttering, especially when content like images were downloaded in the same time. The recent apps button has much lower delay - about 2 secs on Snap, half second on Exynos.

Back of the phone has finally acceptable temperatures. It is almost all time cold. In the same operations N910F is noticeably warm.

Haven't noticed any differences in camera or sound quality.

The only one thing I like in N910F is great battery life. I can easily get 7-8h SOT. Exynos unit gave me about 6h SOT.

Wysłane z mojego SM-N910C przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowFlare:
I guess this confirmed all those people claiming the Recent apps delayed reaction of ~2 secs and chipset heat.

the ~2hr less SOT on Exynos is still worth the performance / smooth gain I suppose in my book. But all that is going to change when Note 4 SD810 variant is released. I have N910C Exynos.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Braxos:
Guys a question I am getting hopefully today a N910C , since in Germany we don't have that but the N910F, at the moment the country of origin from this model is unknown. So I would like to have a polish CSC, to get faster the updates, as lately Poland is getting them faster from Samsung.

My question is, as I would like to have warranty and I don't like to flash a phone till I don't like his stock performance or that it doesn't get updated on latest OS fast enough, I like to much spend ability's, if I flash a polish Samsung stock ROM via Odin without any root , do I loose warranty? Is there a percentage of corrupting efs/imei files doing this? Since to make a backup of them you need root and root triggers Knox counter aka no warranty.

Thanks in advance
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowFlare:
If you are flashing official stock firmware from other region, Knox will NOT trigger. I have done so with my Note 4, bought from United Arab Emirates (UAE) and flashed a Columbia firmware. So if you are going to flash an official Polish firmware, it will NOT trigger Knox. Things that would trigger Knox are Root, Custom ROM, Custom Recovery, Custom Kernel.... basically anything Custom! But yeah, I don't think you can backup your EFS folder without having custom recovery / root, I could be wrong, maybe someone else has more knowledge about that.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Braxos:
The second question is if the efs/imei files can be corrupted from flashing with Odin or not.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] POLO_i780:
I foresee a lot of underwhelm when the Android5.0 update drops and people discover that Samsung have kept both the 805 and Exynos 5433 variants as similar as possible just as they have in 4.4.4, and that no matter what variant you get you will be getting a beast that will be outdated soon anyway :D lol

I hope Samsung stick to just one chip be it Snapdragon or Exynos in the Note 5, as this whole topic around Snap. and Exy. just keeps going round and round with no thorough conclusion, some Snapdragon users have no lag, some do, some Exynos users have lag some don't, some Snapdragon users get great batt life some don't, some Exynos users get great batt life some don't, some say there is a big diff in sound quality in between Snap. and Exy. some there is no diff, some say the cameras are different, some say they aren't.

I have now thoroughly used a mates N910C sold by a local network, I walked away thinking to myself how stupid this whole debate was, I had no idea it was a N910C as I assumed he was still on Vodacom (same network as me with the N910F), until I noticed his didn't have the 'LTE' Voda branding written at the bottom of the back cover, even though it has LTE, I then checked About Device and discovered its a MTN N910C, maybe I just didn't pay much attention as I used it, but I just didnt notice much of if any difference, mine seemed faster as I turned Off Animations in Developer Options, so I enabled the Options for him and turned the Animations Off, now his is also very quick, I wish Samsung would set the animations Off by default, as their animations are slow and make the phone seem like it lags.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ciscosec:
Note 4 has already Exynos 7 inside

Note 4 has already Exynos 7 inside. They just renamed the product from Exynos 5433 to Exynos 7. Read carefully the official article that confirms my claim: http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...gh_rich_technology_which_powers_Galaxy_Note_4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
What's your point?

The 5433 is still the 5433. The 7410 and 7420 are different chips.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ciscosec:
The point is that dispite it's 5433, it is not Exynos 5 ... It is officially Exynos 7.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
So?...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Just try to compare both on loading screens(game or internet) and smoothness on scrolling. There are very noticable difference. Instead of cpu part ofc they are very similar. What you even expect from a difference? I can definetly say my old iphone 5s and new 6 plus has lesser speed difference than exynos and snapdragon variant of note 4 and ofc if everything is fast anyway you cant see a very big difference.if loading takes 0.5 sec on slower device 50% faster device can barely get it done in 0.3 sec.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] POLO_i780:
Will see what I can do next time I see him, but that gets me wondering, if the difference in speed is less than 1sec between the two, why even bother? Why have this huge debate that goes around in circles?

I found both phones are fast and our setup (apps, games, SD Cards etc...) differ greatly, he doesn't even know what Snapdragon and Exynos are, he used my N910F and was very happy with it and decided his next phone will be a Note, not even knowing the one he got is a diff variant, to him they are the same thing.

Anyway, I hope the Android 5.0 update ends all this ridiculousness, there is far more to this awesome phone than the SoC, that is what I have discovered after using both Snapdragon and Exynos variants.

Its weird, this is the only forum where people are fretting about what variant they are getting, everywhere else, people are happy with either.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Well people think when s810 and exynos 7420 come others will be rubbish too absolutely they wont. And you are right people outside dont even know cpu of their phone. Thats why i think samsung will enable 64bit for 5433 on 5.0 and wont even advertise it. People really dont care whats in their phone and they just care about the experience.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] POLO_i780:
Indeed, what gets me is Most of us here will probably get the Note 5 with the next Snapdragon or Exynos chip, so I don't get why people are worried, lol.

One just has to look at the Note 3, over a yearold and yet still a beast no matter which variant you look at.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] FD10:
Exynos Modem 303 - "LTE-Advanced Cat6"??
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
KoreaN note 4 910s if im not wrong has cat6 modem
[Galaxy Note 4 General] FD10:
You're right! http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_4-6434.php

I don't understand why Samsung didn't use this modem for N910C version too...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SLMI:
By the way, when you going to launch article on AT, I'm keeping track since last friday, waiting soome comparison about these two from your hands
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
I finished the article some time ago but waiting on another editor to add something to it, so I don't know, it's out of my hands.

But I shared the conclusion some time ago, the exynos is much faster in everyday use with a slightly weaker gpu and slightly less battery life.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cmd512:
Nicely done, and history repeats itself once again. I had the same exact experience with the SD S4 and the Exynos S4, I ended up sticking with the Exynos variant even though it meant giving up LTE/4G.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
"The chip's firmware and drivers are running on a "CAL" / Chip-Abstraction-Layer on the lowest level of the driver stacks. In fact, beyond the CPU cores (and GPU), the Exynos 5433 looks very similar to the Exynos 5430 which employs A15/A7 cores. "

Its from the old article did you have a chance to check any other 64 bit samsung phones so they have same drivers or not? Cuz samsung doesnt mention 64 bit for any of them either.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast:
So for the sake of performance we give the battery up...

It is same for cars = lower fuel consumption = overall worse car in terms of performance, aka "granny car".
[Galaxy Note 4 General] POLO_i780:
Errm, not really, modern cars generally have smaller+lighter engines with turbos, and all kinds of fuel saving tech, you may sometimes find that less powerful cars can be less economical if e.g. they don't have a turbo at the reef and so they have to do more work, while a smaller motor with a turbo performs better. E.g. VW Polo 1.6 N/A vs. a VW Polo 1.2 TSI (turbocharged).

Your best bet with the Snapdragon vs. Exynos is to try get hands on both and make your mind up.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cmd512:
Tell that to the cars pushing 800+ HP like mine. Seriously, you're trying way too hard to find little caveats to everything, in general terms he's spot on with his comparison.

(I mean, if you really want make analogies, comparing a 20nm CPU to a 28nm one is the real laughable one.)

The SD S4 may have had slightly better battery life, I didn't bother keeping it long enough to tell, couldn't get over the micro lags. With a good kernel that undervolts, I was plenty happy with the S4 Exynos mix of battery life and performance.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Bruce lee roy:
Tesla...?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Flyer.michael:
For Gear VR users the only option is

910F

GPU of 910C is too slow to run it smoothly

If you want to use the Gear VR - only Snapdragon runs smooth because of the better GPU

Not my oppinion but an official statement
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Source? All i see is snapdragon gpu has like 5--10% better benchmaek scores. But games run higher fps on exynos.

Edit: found it i guess but they say exynos isnt ready for it yet needs update. I think samsung will want to sell gear vr in korea too and they will fix it since they sell exynos in korea. Whatever i wont buy anyway.:)