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[Moto 360] happynoodleboyx:
Any luck finding a NATO band?

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Any pics?
[Moto 360] honggee:
I'll try to get one posted here later tonight or tomorrow. I swapped it back, so I'll have to do it again
[Moto 360] GTiceman:
I didn't order one yet. I looked at http://natostrapsco.com/ and think I will order one from there. I am happy still with the original leather strap, though I did try my 18mm NATO out on it and it is a pain, it doesn't give you that NATO switching ability. I would love it someone got proper adapters made to pull the pins out. I also will be filing down the inside pieces I think to better allow the straps to go in.
[Moto 360] cybercurator:
I'm looking for a natural (light) leather band with a deployent clasp. Probably 21mm to be safe. Anyone found any that work with little modification?
[Moto 360] roccom33:
I finally got my steel band to work. It certainly wasn't easy... until I thought to buy a small vice and mount it to the bench in the garage. Vice + file + swapping the end links = steel band that fits. It won't work for all steel bands I just happened to be lucky that the steel band I purchased worked out.

I still don't recommend doing what I did but I guess I'll post some pics later for anybody who feels like giving it a shot.
[Moto 360] xibalwerks:
Model 2 Horween

Just got my brown model 2 horween strap in today! Had to do some tweaking to add a notch in the strap. I'm loving the look of it (better than that stone crap)! Let me know what you guys think
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
That's what stock should have looked like from the start! Well done!
[Moto 360] RekiOneR:
Simply beautiful, it's exactly what I expect to do, the moto design fits well for a luminor watchface. Well done

I just have to wait the availability of the watch in to European stores (anyone knows when it supposed to be)
[Moto 360] jasonleb1:
Best strap replacement I've seen so far.
[Moto 360] darrenk232:
Can I ask where you got this from?
[Moto 360] cybercurator:
Absolutely perfect! Exactly what I'm looking for. Would match my leather Moto X perfectly.
[Moto 360] stu5797:
This is the best looking moto 360 Imo. Silver with that beautiful band! Do they sell those black Shank richard tracy bands at any local store?
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Not that I know of. You can contact them to verify.
[Moto 360] Kokanee483:
Working on a adapter for standard watchbands, this should also allow the use of dive bands if the layer of nylon webbing between the charger and watch isnt an issue..... Printing a test model now, will get it done out of stainless @ shapeways if it works..
[Moto 360] Kokanee483:
Success!

A few kinks I need to work on the mesh for a bit, but hopefully will have a final copy done by tomorrow.

*Note: This does sit flush with the bezel, I just don't have a spare set of spring arms to get it to stay put.
[Moto 360] rtnapl:
Anyone interested in selling their gray(not stone) band please message.
[Moto 360] Kokanee483:
Version 2:

Still a bit thick, had to sand the tab down a bit. But overall much better fit than v1.
[Moto 360] friedgoldmole:
I thought 3d printing something would be the solution to this, amazing work. Are you able to make the structure below have as little contact with the bottom cover to prevent the cracking problem?
[Moto 360] Kokanee483:
trying to keep it away from the back plate yes.
[Moto 360] cincij:
Love this idea, and would be quick to buy one if you produce. I honestly think it would look better if it got thicker toward the face, but perhaps it wouldn't be sturdy enough and a gap would show.
[Moto 360] Kokanee483:
V3 actually is going to be a bit chunkier, and yes slope downward from the bezel. I was going for a "minimalist" style but I think a bit of "junk in the trunk" on this design would work. A lot of sloping curves to match the aesthetics of the watch.
[Moto 360] Kokanee483:
I think this is looking damn sexy

Larger design swoops around the sides, while sloping down from the top of the bezel, and follows the curve of the wrist so that it's not sitting flat on the wrist, thereby minimizing stress on the plastic backing of the watch.

Printing now.
[Moto 360] JohnnyHempseed:
Canvas/leather strap -
[Moto 360] RekiOneR:
Beautiful!

Any link?
[Moto 360] JohnnyHempseed:
http://m.target.com/p/men-s-mossimo-black-canvas-strap-with-black-dial-watch-brown/-/A-14422676 - took it off a crappy watch from Target. The canvas pulls back for wireless charging, and the heart rate sensor is useless since the watch rests on the canvas instead of skin. The watch resting on the canvas seems to take the strain off the back plate and prevents cracking.
[Moto 360] Kokanee483:
Okay this is too large, you would need a massive wrist to pull this off, back to the drawing board.

Adapter "in the rough" from the printer.

And mounted to the watch after a bit of cleanup work
[Moto 360] JohnnyHempseed:
Keep up the great work; this looks awesome.
[Moto 360] Kokanee483:
hmmmm, the adapter keeps wanting to flex downward and hit the bottom plastic... here is a new concept i'm fiddling with;

combine bump protector and strap adapter?
[Moto 360] Kokanee483:
Slimmed down concept, waiting on this to print;
[Moto 360] Kokanee483:
So...... that didnt' work. No way to mount the watch into the chassis as it were as the tabs get in their own way. Back to the drawing board. Going to take one more kick at it and see if this is doable via an alternate idea i have in mind.
[Moto 360] Mbai2:
22 mm Super Engineer with Deployment Clasp

I ordered a Strapcode Super Engineer 22 mm polished watch band with deployment clasp. Took some work to get it to fit but ended up looking quite good.

I had to swap the clasp and strap ends like the other bands and file down the tabs on the Moto360.

I also dremeled a slot into the strap end so I can still access the spring bar if I want to take swap the band later.

Face On

Face Dimmed

Clasp

Back of watch
[Moto 360] JimSmith94:
A guy on Android Central says he was able to use a curved end watch band on his 360 with no modifications to the band or the watch. Has anyone here tried that?
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Nope, but I do have a watch band with curved endlinks. Do you have a link or pics from the guy on AC?
[Moto 360] Ichibahn SLC:
Damn. You beat me to the designs. I've been waiting for my 3d printer to get in. Nice work! I have a few different models I'll be sharing once I verify that they work.

If I may ask, what settings did you print those at?
[Moto 360] JimSmith94:
Sorry, he didn't post any pictures. He said he went to a jeweler, ordered one out of a catalog for $25, and when it came in, it was installed in five minutes. Please try your curved end band, let us know how it works, and please post pictures too.
[Moto 360] tonyguy2000:
That looks great! Where did you get it? Alter anything to get it to fit?
[Moto 360] Ideal2545:
What watch face is that, I love that look!

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Hey guys, any recommendations on bands for the black faced moto 360 that may spruce it up a bit with color?
[Moto 360] Kokanee483:
Okay here's hoping this works;

Waiting on the print.
[Moto 360] Cr4z33:
How do you lock the inner watch to that ring?

Oh and check your PMs. ;)

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[Moto 360] GTiceman:
Kokanee483 these 3D prints are awesome. I am definitely in to get one
[Moto 360] 640k:
i love love love this! at $23 I can get another super cheap band and pawn the watch off to my 4 y/o. getting motivated to get a 360 now, especially with recent battery reports.

has anyone tried cutting a hole to make the HR sensor work? it just needs to illuminate the skin, but i think it has to "see through" the skin.
[Moto 360] diabolic:
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet. I scrolled through a number of pages and didn't see anything.

https://www.facebook.com/steelconnect

Apparently these guys are working on adapters for the Moto 360 now.
[Moto 360] Cr4z33:
Stating to a SteelConnect Facebook reply to my question they are going to release the 360 adapter next week.

Edit:

They actually posted the news in the Accessories section:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=55896908

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[Moto 360] GTiceman:
Super excited to see this
[Moto 360] chris420o:
sooo

is there anyyyy known metal bands that fit withouttt scraping out the notches? I refuse to damage my watch to fit a dif band on it...there has to be a band out there that doesnt require modification to the watch itsself(which can only lead to future problems)...i love the strapcode straps but i heard now they require modification besides switching the ends...anyone else have any luck(minus the pebble steal band which is to thin for my taste)

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[Moto 360] roccom33:
It can be done by modifying the band rather than the watch. With the help of a vice and a metal file I created a notch in my stainless steel band. Things to be considered if going this route:

1. Possible damage to watch such as cracking. Personally, I haven't had any problems yet.

2. I do not suggest doing this without a vice. Trust me. I tried. Buy a $10 vice on Amazon and mount it to a workbench in the garage or wherever.

3. Thickness of the band. My band was too thick, however the end that connected to the clasp was thinner and made use of spring bar pins so I swapped the ends.
[Moto 360] JimSmith94:
A guy on Android Central said he used a curved end watch band without modifying anything. I haven't seen any pictures though.
[Moto 360] 640k:
hey can you post pics on your wrist? any issues with sweat/heat? thanks!
[Moto 360] JohnnyHempseed:
No issues with heat, you just sacrifice the heart rate sensor....if you really need it, just stick your finger under the watch and it will take your heart rate just fine. Sweat isn't an issue as the part that touches your skin is leather...kinda repels sweat.

Here's a link to my watch face - https://app.box.com/s/mdogyjkw60sy3k3kvj6r
[Moto 360] 640k:
thanks, can you take a pic a little further away so I can get a better feel for the arm-watch ratio? :D The pics make the whole get-up look gigantic.
[Moto 360] JohnnyHempseed:
It's definitely not a svelte setup...I usually rock large faced watches.
[Moto 360] 640k:
MUCH better pic! thanks!!!
[Moto 360] Kokanee483:
I'm not pursuing development of a watch band adapter anymore; I've tried a bunch of combinations of designs and the watch just wasn't made for it. That being said, someone go ahead and prove me wrong...
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Steel connect M is in the works. They have photos of the protos already for kickstarter next week.
[Moto 360] Kokanee483:
Nice, i'll be buying one then.
[Moto 360] GTiceman:
Gave you a thanks for all your hard work
[Moto 360] Cr4z33:
Yeah it was indeed a nice and hard try. :)

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[Moto 360] JimSmith94:
He posted pictures in post #113 of this thread: http://forums.androidcentral.com/moto-360/435005-moto-360-buying-3rd-party-metal-band.html

He said he had a jeweler install a Speidel band like these: http://www.speidel.com/magento/index.php/watchbands/metal-band.html?band_size=139
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
The curved ends would fit if the ends were just as thin (3mm or so) to accommodate the opening on the watch. I haven't had time to try my curved ends. Sorry!
[Moto 360] piepie22:
This is the mistake i made when ordering.

There are actually notched inside the watch which prevents you from using flat end bands.

You need to buy bands with the cutout in the middle.

Look at the photo. Hope it helps.

The band I ordered was 21mm Matt Black, it would be perfect match if not for the stupid notches, do you think I can file it down the middle?
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
There's a metal band thread as well and dusty Rhodes was the first person to use the super engineer 2 bands. First use a 20mm band. Swap out the ends because the links at the buckle is thinner. But he scrapped out the notches in the watch. I followed by using the same with the stainless steel version.

Another used a 22mm watchband but he put a dremel to it.
[Moto 360] JimSmith94:
Supposedly curved end bands work without modification of the band or the watch, as long as it's thin enough to fit into the watch slot.
[Moto 360] roccom33:
Yes you can. I highly suggest using a vice. I tried... I mean I REALLY tried to do it without a vice and failed. With the vice it was very easy. I need to get around to posting pictures.
[Moto 360] raduque:
This whole mess could have been avoided if Motorola hadn't decided to make the watch back overhang the strap.
[Moto 360] ThePublisher:
Just put the pebble steel black band on my black 360. I immediately like the look and feel better than the leather black band. The watch is a slightly darker black than the band is, but its not an issue for me as it matches most of the time depending on how the light hits. I would recommend it for only $20 bucks at best buy, and its really easy to swap out.

I will be keeping a close eye on the Motorola band, or any others that end up working with or without and adapter. The Pebble band looks nice, but is very 'tinny/clinky' metal and not really 'heavy duty' or durable. It also doesn't have an adjustable clamp like many nice watch bands, so for me its either too big with an extra link, or not quite big enough without the link.
[Moto 360] kmahan:
Can you post the 3d files you worked with? I've got some ideas I'd like to try and I could at least get the dimensions from what you've done so far.
[Moto 360] NWKENT:
Beautiful watch..thanks for posting..

Which band did you use, and was it already cut out, slotted.?

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[Moto 360] furiousgtz:
Pebble Steel Stainless Metal Watchband
[Moto 360] Blunt_wizard:
All black everything.

My black edition moto360 with black stainless steel truffol pebble steel band.

I wish I knew this forum was here before I went out and did this but I got lucky and wanted to share my results. I'm very happy with the quality of the band.

The links closest to the moto360 are too wide so they must be removed during the installation process, you then must force the springbars you removed from your moto360 carefully into the bands holes and make sure its perfectly even and then insert into the moto360. Only for 7inch wrists and smaller.

warningIf you try to insert the larger links anyway you will crack your backplate.
[Moto 360] Blunt_wizard:
rest of the pics

Rest of the pics.
[Moto 360] NWKENT:
Thanks for the pictures, nice watch..I have the black version also..and looking for black band..I have one I purchased from Amazon, BUT it has not been notched out, as to fit the 360..

:(

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[Moto 360] piepie22:
Thanks for sharing the photo, watch looks great!
[Moto 360] mackster248:
Man, I really wanna purchase the black pebble steel band, but so worried that it'll crack the back of my watch like others. :/
[Moto 360] irononreverse:
I'm not getting a metal strap unless it's like the one in the teasers. So disappointed so far.
[Moto 360] opasha:
I agree with you, but the Pebble Steel one still seems to be the best I've experienced so far in terms of options available without having to shave out the plastic inner piece. It's really light. I like it.
[Moto 360] hush66:
There are users who encounter the crack issue even when using the stock leather band. The Pebble band isn't the cause of the crack. It's a design flaw that may happen with any band.
[Moto 360] Metallice:
There are also users who encountered a cracked back without hitting it with a hammer. That doesn't mean taking a hammer to the back of the watch won't cause it to crack.

The pebble steel bands may very well be causing backs to crack. Just because it can happen without doesn't exclude the pebble bands from being a causal factor in cracking.
[Moto 360] hush66:
I don't disagree with you. But my point is also that any band (not just the Pebble band) may be a causal factor in the cracking.
[Moto 360] Metallice:
Yep. Truth is nobody really knows. All we have are a bunch of theories and guesses. Unfortunately I doubt moto will ever clear it up haha
[Moto 360] NWKENT:
One Word >> SWEETWATCH

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My blacked out 360..cheap $25 band from Amazon..

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[Moto 360] mackster248:
I'd love to know where you got that band from. Thanks!
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Nice looking on mesh!:good:
[Moto 360] KidJoe:
Sorry, I have to vent...

I guess I'm the only idiot who can't get the stock band off their 360.

I ordered -> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002Q7TUII/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and I'm using the right tool, but I can't seem to get the stock STONE band to move enough to actually push the pin down.

I've changed bands on my older watches. Not sure why this is such a problem.
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
The tool with the "V" (the opposite side of the pin pusher) at the end is the best to use on the watch. If you do not feel it push down, have you flipped it to try the opposite side? Sometimes the pushpin's grooves are deformed and you cannot grip it. But at least on side should grip enough. GL
[Moto 360] KidJoe:
Thanks. Yeah that is the tool I'm using. I've tried both ends of the pin. There isn't any space between the stone strap and the watch body. Getting the tool in is very difficult.

Oh well, I'll keep trying.
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Because the strap is 22mm, the leather will need to be pushed down as well and you can use the watch tool to push it a bit to reveal the grooves of the spring bars. Just put the watch on a towel and take your time at it. It'll come out. If all else fails you can go to a local jeweler in a mall kiosk and try them. And heck, you may even see a band you like there. :)
[Moto 360] b1urr:
I posted this in another thread but figured it applies to this thread as well.

I had this 20mm Hadley-Roma watch band professionally installed the other day from my local jeweler. I love the look and So far no radio interference despite what was stated by Motorola. I believe that you can buy the band at the link below however keep in mind I did not buy this from amazon and it may not be the exact same band and I recommend professional installation to prevent cracking of the back plate.

http://www.amazon.com/Hadley-Roma-M...819&sr=8-6&keywords=Hadley-Roma+20mm+two+tone

I initially had the pebble steel band installed, the band was nice enough however it pulled the crap out of my arm hair so I decided to change it out.

I included the watch face that I am using in the post in case anyone was interested.
[Moto 360] b1urr:
Just thought I would add a picture on what it looks like when its on my wrist although you cant really see the band from that angle...

I also added the face as an attachment for anyone interested.
[Moto 360] bsg273:
And you shaved out the tabs on your Moto 360 I assume?
[Moto 360] 640k:
i like that watch face. Unfortunately one of the few times the bar takes away from it. How's the animation of all the dials?
[Moto 360] b1urr:
I agree, there are few times the black bar actually bugged me on a watch face, which is why I switched off to the Montblanc that you see in the pic above. The Breitling does not have animations for the other dials which is kind of a bummer but it still looks nice (black bar aside). FYI, I take no credit for the watch faces, I use the facer app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jeremysteckling.facerrel) and download the faces from facerepo (http://facerepo.com/app/)
[Moto 360] ayamy87:
Hello !

Probably*not the right thread, but*I would love to get an original gray leather band (I have the stone)... :(

If anyone reads this and is interested please don't hesitate to send me a message ! I'll pay via PayPal ;)

Thank you !
[Moto 360] b1urr:
No, the Jeweler was able to install with no shaving of the internal tab.
[Moto 360] brotbuexe:
Use more force. You have to squeeze the leather a little too move the spring bar.

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If you hate your stone grey band and want to make it look better, use sand paper (200) and then leather dye or only grease on it.

It looks much better after that.

The purple look is gone. With grease you get a fine looking textured grey. Not as dark as the dark grey band.
[Moto 360] ThePublisher:
DO NOT GET Pebble Steel

So a few pages back I highly recommended the Pebble Steel band. After a couple days with it the band is fine. It does not, however, fit the 360. It will connect, yes, but it pushes against the back plastic of the watch and will cause cracking. After just a couple days I already had marks on the band from where it had pushed against the watch. I'm back to the leather band for now until Moto's official metal comes out.

Do not risk it!
[Moto 360] bsg273:
That'd imply just about any 3rd party steel band you get would cause this issue no? Since they all are going to have metal right there in the connecting link hanging down and rubbing against the plastic.
[Moto 360] Cr4z33:
Try also asking to Motorola?

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[Moto 360] ayamy87:
Actually,*The gray*model that was initially available at launch*has been replaced*with a*stone leather*strap :(
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Not if the end link is long enough, if it can bend over the semi-circle back of the watch. Like the trefol band or my super engineer II band. I took pics a while back showing the back, there will be no stress on the back to speak of.
[Moto 360] bsg273:
I found this on the Truffol website.

[IMG="Truffol vs. OG"]https://www.truffol.com/upload/products/403/form/Form_4.jpg[/IMG]

So you're saying because the singular end link on the Truffol band is longer than the OG Pebble Steel band, that somehow prevents it from cracking or scratching the back? I'm not exactly understanding the "physics" behind this, but I'm going to try and reason through it and you can tell me if my thinking is correct.

For reference, here's an image of another guy's cracked back (from Android Central) as a result of using the OG Pebble Steel band.

[IMG="OG Pebble Steel Band w/ Cracked Back"]http://forums.androidcentral.com/attachments/moto-360/140602d1413062908t-moto-360-buying-3rd-party-metal-band-20141011_111958.jpg[/IMG]

You can kindof see the first link is fully embedded into the attachment point in the Moto 360. The interface between the first link and the second link then lines up right at the edge of the plastic back of the Moto 360, thus allowing the 2nd link to pivot back in right at this "sensitivity point" and press against the plastic, rendering the protective tabs on the Moto 360 useless. Since the Truffol band has a longer first link, it shall stick out from the tabs with a little slack, allowing them to do their job protected the plastic back.

Sorry for that mouthful, but is my understanding correct? lol