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[Galaxy Note 4 General] apprentice:
I am talking about the OP quoting a £599 price. Where did you get your £629 price from? I realise waiting 3 months will be cheaper obviously! But Clove Technology for example, are quoting a £575 price Inc VAT which again is all conflicting.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gavinfabl:
£629 is the price you need to pay from the Samsung UK Experience stores when you go to preorder in store.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jah:
I also noticed that only the Samsung pre-order allows purchase of the gold/bronze version (the one I ordered). Other sites such as Clove and Amazon Germany only offer the black/grey and white options.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Squirrel_Master:
I still find it bizarre that the price of the Note drops everywhere but Canada after launch. The Note 3 has stayed at $750 since launch here. Good for early adopters at least.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] apprentice:
Thanks. That makes it clearer. Though why Samsung can't offer better deals to pre-orders I don't know. I think it might be better to wait a few days and save a lot of money.

Good to see you by the way, it was all about the K Zoom I believe last time we spoke??
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gavinfabl:
Yes the K Zoom was doing reall well. Back like all good things ...... :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
Hope they revert back to the 9th then, that would be pretty awesome!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] The Divide:
[IMG="Original UK release date?"]http://static.knowyourmobile.com/sites/knowyourmobilecom/files/styles/gallery_wide/public/Array/10628614_752130041502301_4826612802311732001_n.jpg?itok=cvvS19MG[/IMG]

I'd presume that if Samsung are saying preparing for dispatch then it seems possible that the original 10th October release date still stands.

Perhaps they pushed it back to avoid disappointment as the shipping channels have been flooded due to iPhone 6's? Just a thought.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jonstatt:
Hmm...my Samsung Store order has lost any indication of dispatch date from the order, but it has not moved to "Preparing for dispatch" either. It seems to be in limbo. Mine is a Bronze/Gold one...... Has anyone who ordered this colour had their order move to preparing for dispatch yet? I did manage to confirm with Samsung that I was on the list to get the free Gear Fit but the web page was already saying 17th October when I pre-ordered.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jah:
Any email I had from Samsung online store did indicate Bronze version may be delivered before the others as Black and White were most in demand
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jonstatt:
Yes I did read that in the thread somewhere, but so far it looks like it's actually black and white ones that may be the ones that have gone into the dispatch process! Weird!

I am starting to worry if I did the right thing ordering a Bronze one. I was a bit bored of dark coloured phones, and I really don't like white ones.....so I thought I would try something different. But I am wondering if it's going to be too "bling" and when I saw the polls, it looked like hardly anyone was choosing this colour!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] voges:
bronze

Ordered bronze.

My status is order processing.

So I guess no good news soon.

I guess the gold would look nice with a cover like the alien neo hybrid with a black back.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jah:
Second thoughts, the order for the Note 4 online included the free Gear Fit. The status "preparing for despatch" can also be for part of the delivery, not necessarily for the Note 4! So we may get the Gear Fit on the 10th and the Note 4 a week later!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] geovass:
Why would they do that? Do you think Samsung would like to express send twice per customer?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
I did hear that the gear fit would be sent out separately. Doesn't make sense though.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] avenging:
to those who will get the free gear fit be very careful with the charging cradle its very easy to lose it as its small.

i bought a neon green strap to replace my black and its really nice :good:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jah:
Replacement dock only £10 from the Samsung online store.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gavinfabl:
Does anyone know if the Gear Fit offer is over? Samsung have just reprovided me with my one off 10% discount so if the Fit can be bought with it plus 10% off then that's not bad. Although I'd like to see what offers will be available with the Gear S.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jah:
Gavin last time I spoke to Samsung CS I was told Gear Fit promotion ended last day in September.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gavinfabl:
Thanks Jah. Sounds like I missed a good offer. Personally would prefer a Gear 2. I imagine it won't be long before new offers arrive.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] geovass:
I think the Gear Fit promo was for the first 200 preorders.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jah:
Correct the first 200 before 1st October. I ordered on 30th September and was still eligible for the Gear Fit so I am not convinced they applied the 200 limit ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
I might be mad but I've been tempted to get another k zoom as it's reduced to £320 and you get £200 off an nx mini, which looks good as well. With 10% off that may have pushed me over the edge...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gavinfabl:
Yes that is a very very good and tempting deal. Clearly they can't sell the K Zoom! After the K Zoom I was really tempted by the Galaxy Camera 2, but then I looked at some other options and the choice is superb...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
There is a lot of choice and the galaxy cameras pale in comparison. The NX mini does have a 1" sensor and reviews are good, and it's compact. But think I'll pass this time!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jah:
Expansys USA have Note in stock so they are out there. Unlocked Samsung Galaxy Note 4 on sale at Expansys USA for $849.99 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/androidcentral/~3/oftF9pPvJ10/story01.htm
[Galaxy Note 4 General] yshaikh01:
Handtec have the device for £569.99 delivered - http://www.handtec.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-note-4-32gb-charcoal-black-sm-n910fzkebtu.html

Anyone ever purchased from them?
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[Galaxy Note 4 General] jah:
Yes reliable. If you are unsure why not use clove.co.UK where the Note 4 is £575.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] rilldeverill:
Note 4

All I can say is that once again Samsung lets it's users down! Why be cryptic about release dates?

Communication! I have per-ordered from Three uk and I have had NO feedback!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] @home:
We keep buying their devices though & putting up with the rubbish release dates.

Me included :silly:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cathain:
Yep ordered twice before and everything was fine. They always tend to have prices slightly lower than clove at launch of new products. The undercutting worked on me when I was pre-ordering the LG G2 anyway.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] rilldeverill:
So we wait

So once again we wait! I'm away for the weekend was really hoping to have my Note 4 tomorrow, since Samsung seemed to say UK 10th October... but nothing yet!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jonstatt:
I wonder if it went into "dispatching" status because the original date was the 10th when you ordered. So it will now just sit like that until next week. Have you tried calling up to ask them what's going on?

Handtec are okay in the sense that they ship reliably, answer their phones etc. But I bought my Galaxy Gear 1 from them and they sent me a European import with a second AC adapter (for the UK plug). While there was nothing wrong with it, I would have preferred the official UK version.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] rilldeverill:
News

Looks like it was a false alarm! Just rung Three store to be told they have no idea! I have received a letter stating my IEMI number which I was told is most likely indication that "Head office has received your phone" but they still have no idea when I'll get it!

I think is really disappointing how Samsung have dropped the ball on release dates. I hate to say it but Samsung could do with taking some marketing lessons from Apple. There devices might be rubbish and out-dated but at least you know when you can get that rubbish!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] geovass:
I received the following email on September 30th.

Dear Customer,

Thank you for pre-ordering your Galaxy Note 4.

You're one of the first to put your name down for our best handset yet!

To ensure your product is received in perfect condition and quality checked the anticipated dispatch is now a little later for the White and Black models and will be around the 17th, you will still be one of the first to get your hands on one.

If you have ordered a Gold Note 4 we still aim for this to be dispatched as planned.

You will still be getting your fantastic Gear Fit as your complimentary gift for your pre-order.

Enjoy your exciting new product.

Thank you for shopping with Samsung E-Store.

*
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jonstatt:
None of this makes a lot of sense does it! If there are quality issues they want to check, that would exist for all 3 colours! Why would they hold back all the stock to ship it on the same date, rather than release the early orders now and the rest next week?! Very odd. As for my gold order, it is still sitting in "Order Processed" anyway and has not moved forwards.

BTW some orders on the morning of the 1st of October also get the Gear Fit if they clicked the website link specifically mentioning it (the web page was slow to be taken away so existed for a few hours into 1st October).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
That's right, if they really are preparing for dispatch as it states that would suggest they're sitting in the warehouse. In which case why not just send them out? I suspect they're not really ready for dispatch at all and they're probably still in China or something!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] rilldeverill:
It still shouts to me that they need to communicate more freely, the last thing they should be doing now is mucking customers about! With out us they fail!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] avenging:
according to sammobile the delay was due to the "amazing interest and demand" for the note 4 :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] 9e705ebbf0:
Not sure if this is of interest, but I noticed something: mobile fun are offering the Note 4 for pre-order in the UK and it seems to be the Exynos version. I tried to ring them to confirm but their phone system is absolutely shocking, so I had to send them an email asking for the specific model number. No reply as yet, but thought people here might be interested.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
I can't help feeling they have delayed launch to build inventory, after the success of the iphone launch Samsung need another PR stunt so by delaying launch they can hit their magical 10 million units in 30 days, which stinks if you ask me and may back fire because I for one am deffo hanging on to see the new nexus 6 and if I could walk into a store and get on now would deffo have the mate 7
[Galaxy Note 4 General] rahularora1:
available instock through ecell £589

hi guys, apparently the ecell store on ebay have these in stock for delivery on monday in white. they have confirmed via email that they have them in stock. item number 191363888576

i have bought a few phones from them in the past, always uk stock and on time delivery.

It does look like its a exynos version though
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jah:
Good find. Here is the ebay link http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-SIM-F...88576?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item2c8e2d35c0
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
I've had a not so good experience with ecell, sold me a grey import. That's not to say you won't have a good experience as you've bought from them before. But isn't there an issue with using the exynos version in the UK?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] LoverOfTech:
Have to agree, what was the point in pre ordering if they now claim "Delayed launch cos of demand" it's a joke. Can't understand why this news is breaking on sites today when this was commonly known a week and a half ago. Just release the phones Samsung. Take people money then delay release is comical.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowFlare:
I've ordered through Ecell before, takes ages to arrive (around 2-3 weeks) and imported from Hong Kong. That was the last time I'm buying import, just for the sake of saving £15 at that time. I'll probably buy import if things like Note 4 Exynos model is proven to be much better than the Snapdragon model. But if just slightly better than SD, I'll stick with SD.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jonstatt:
There are NO Exynos UK models. If it is Exynos it is likely an Asian (Far East) model.

The UK model is always and only Snapdragon
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jah:
And there may be no warranty cover for Exynos in the UK.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] rilldeverill:
Just do ot

Just release it for goodness sake!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowFlare:
It's taking so long maybe I may just wait for Note 5! :p
[Galaxy Note 4 General] masterchif92:
I want to buy a note 4 but how much time it will take to drop to 599€? Is a good price for it? Why exinos is better than the snapdragon?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] rilldeverill:
At this rate it will be quicker to wait for note 5
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jonstatt:
Exynos is not better than Snapdragon. It will be a bit better on benchmarks, but it will suffer in terms of game optimisations etc which will pretty much always optimise for Snapdragon but may not for Exynos.

Price drops take about 3 months after launch assuming that there is plenty of stock in the channel. If it is still "hot" and hard to find, the price drop will take longer.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Bilhouse:
Another typical botched Samsung launch.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] whofch:
£535 from this eglobalcentral place with another £5 off for liking them or something on facebook if their annoying popups are to be believed. Anyone with experience with that site?:P
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SquidgyB:
Trustpilot reviews look reasonable, the worst people seem to be complaining about is "hidden charges" in the form of customs getting a hold on their package, which in all honesty I can't blame on the website/company.

I've bit the bullet and ordered the Note 4 from them - they appear to be stocking the Exynos version btw. I also got ~£12 off by searching tor "eglobalcentral vouchers" on google and doing the usual hunt.

https://www.eglobalcentral.co.uk/sa...u-4g-lte-32gb-sim-free-unlocked-black-en.html

Wish me luck, I'll post back when (if? :o) I get the Note.

e: I would have gone for the Exynos version on ebay (already imported, delivered from Blackpool I believe) but they only had the white version.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
How much is it likely to be in customs charges?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jonstatt:
A bit over 100 pounds plus a handling fee which is between 10-15 pounds depending on whether it is sent by courier or EMS

It depends if the sender honestly marks up the value of the item or not.

It is a brave thing to buy this way, because Samsung are not known for the highest quality...particularly if you are an OCD person that wants a perfect display with no uniformity issues etc etc.

But I do wish the best of luck to the OP who is buying this from HK :) I have taken a punt this way before and got away with it, so hopefully he will too!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] rahularora1:
Hi mate how are you handling the region lock issue on this? Even if it's sim free its still locked to the region is sold in...have a look at the description in the clove site to see what I mean
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jah:
Only way round this is for the exporter to insert a local SIM for 5 minutes before shipping to the UK.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] johnpithers:
Arrival tomorrow?

I phoned Samsung this morning and Nikki said that it could be here tomorrow or saturday and they are all shipping BETWEEN october 10th and 17th. I ordered mine on the 2/10 and she still said I could get in within a couple of days so fingers crossed!:)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
This is good news, although if it does arrive tomorrow there will be nobody to sign for it. Having said that when I preordered the K Zoom it was just left on my doorstep by UK mail so you never know..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] geovass:
Great news! I ordered mine on the 26/09 so I am expecting it by Saturday? Hope that's the case!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] wizardofoz85:
Same for me but I'm guessing if they do get released for the 10th it'll get shipped tomorrow but not turn up until Monday
[Galaxy Note 4 General] rilldeverill:
Store buy's

Due to my contract I upgraded in a Three store. I doubt I'll get mine before the 17th! (Upgraded 30th Sept)

And just found out that I now have a 2GB tethering limit which the store promised I wouldn't have. They said it would be unlimited tethering.

Ow well at this point I'm tempted to return to my old contract demand a re-fund for the phone and take a chance that I can pick one up somewhere.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] @home:
Anyone got an out for delivery notification today?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] geovass:
I am keep refreshing the webpage... Lol
[Galaxy Note 4 General] @home:
Which web page?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jah:
The order tracking web page that is linked in your online order confirmation email
[Galaxy Note 4 General] @home:
Ahh I see. Who did you order with?

I ordered from Clove & have had jack **** from them.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] markyboy81:
Trouble is the tracking is so unreliable. In the past my order has been delivered while it's still been on preparing for dispatch!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] geovass:
I ordered through Samsung's e-store.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jonstatt:
My gold Samsung e-store order still just says "order processed". Interestingly the gold one is now "sold out" on the website, whereas the black and white are still available for the 17th.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SquidgyB:
There's reports in other threads that the Exynos version is not region locked. I've queried eglobalcentral to see what their response is. It's already being packed for shipping...

Just had a chat with one of their reps on the website - interesting stuff about VAT/customs duty (I hope they don't mind me quoting here);

My emphasis.

I'm now asking them about unlocking the phone - but if what I've already read is to be believed, then there's no need to unlock the Exynos version.

e: They've confirmed the phone is unlocked, but no further information.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jah:
Amazon De

Interesting that Snapdragon 805 based Note 4 seem to be in stock at Amazon Germany: http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Smartp...ansaction=device_only&keywords=samsung+note+4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] rilldeverill:
I am somewhat losing my patients with Samsung. There advertised release date and the only information other than a non-committal tweet is all third-party nothing from Three UK or Samsung!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] The Divide:
I received a text from ee on the 8th of Oct saying that my phone will be with me within the next 10 days.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] wizardofoz85:
I'm starting to feel the same way. If the nexus 6 ends up getting announced before the note 4 gets sent out I might switch up.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jah:
I have owned the Note 1, 2 & 3 and know how useful the Note is for what I use it for so happy to wait a few days :) And I am also getting a free Gear Fit which is nice
[Galaxy Note 4 General] geovass:
My order is still on Preparing for Dispatch. I don't thing they will sent it today :(
[Galaxy Note 4 General] vanButton:
Aye, mine has been on Preparing for dispatch for days now, I can only guess it'll stay on that for another week... Such a farce for such a big company to get a simple ordering and shipping process so wrong.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] captainbirdseye86:
This thread is starting to become abit silly, especially the person hitting refresh on their pre-order page constantly.

It has been known for a couple of weeks now that the Note 4 will be arriving in the UK (and most of the West) on 17th October, any decent retailer (including the offical samsung website) have had the 17th October for a couple of weeks although not retailers like Clove or Unlocked-Mobiles (which was in my original post) of whom it seems now simply put stupid dates in with no factual basis in order to attract locked in pre-orders (clove using full upfront payment!).

The only question regarding release dates now should be.... does it dispatch on the 17th for delivery on the 18th as indicated by my phone contract provider (EE) or will it dispatch on the 16th for 17th delivery? On that matter, I dropped by Carphone Warehouse the other day and they believe they will have a stock of Galaxy Note 4's arriving on Tuesday but will not be aloud to sell until the offical release date this coming Friday. I like most would like to have the phone by the 17th, i fly out to Germany for the weekend on that date and my HTC M7 is both useless in terms of battery life and charging time (+3 hours without usage for a full charge!), meaning that i have to have it constantly plugged into a portable battery.

To the people who are hating on Samsung for this delay which is stated on most pre-orders, imagine the whining that would happen if the phone released today but half the pre-orders were not forefilled due to lack of stock?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] LoverOfTech:
Carphone Warehouse claim (SES) orders will despatch on 16th for delivery on 17th. If ordered in store for store delivery individuals can pick up in SES from where they purchased, on the 16th of Oct between 12pm & 9pm according to a staff member in the Stratford store.

Not long to go so enjoy your weekend.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SquidgyB:
Not to disagree with the majority of your post - you're quite right (although part of me does understand impatient geek syndrome) - but on the subject of 3rd party sites, in particular Clove; they've had the 17th listed as the release date for at least a week now, and although they take the money immediately - I cancelled yesterday and can confirm I received the full refund today.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jah:
Not necessarily. I have an email from Samsung online store saying delivery will be in 2 batches one before the 17th and another for the 17th for orders from the online store.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] whofch:
I have also been in contact with them to make sure that a UK sim will work with what they will send and they assure me that it will work.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] wizardofoz85:
See this is where I disagree slightly. I ordered from the Samsung website and was given a date of 10th when I did. Samsung saw fit to take the full amount for the phone when I initially ordered. I haven't had any of the emails that some of the others who ordered from Samsung got regarding a change in the date and I ordered before they did.

So for me Samsung have not been in contact with me to let me know when I should expect to get my phone and they took £629 weeks ago from me. That's pretty bad service on their part.

With regards to the release date, Samsung themselves were the ones who said 10th for the UK, it looks like they've dropped it back now so they can have their PR "victory" of selling X Note 4's since it's release; to the detriment of it's release schedule. If they had released it on time but not fulfilled the preorders then they should rightly be hated on for not fulfilling their part of this. They knew how many they could have ready by the date that THEY specified, so they should have either sold that amount and then changed the dates for purchases after or they should have upped their manufacturing game to account for the demand.

If you look at Apple's site you can see that there is a delay in getting an iPhone 6; no one seems to be moaning much about that because Apple gave a date and stuck to it; now they are having their stock issues and having to manufacture more phones and they are clear about it when you order from them. What would be wrong with Samsung having taken this approach?

The world of Tech moves very quickly and even relatively short delays can cost them. Like I said; I'm looking at switching to the Nexus 6 instead now but wanted some more information before I committed to that. If it gets announced that'd be a sale lost for Samsung, and I'm sure I wouldn't be the only person to consider it.