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[Galaxy Note 4 General] iggibar:
I ended up going back to the AT&T Note 4 via Amazon preorder. I know I will end up having a new phone with in the a year from now. That's realistically too short of a time to really care about future possibilities. Plus, I just played with a loaded AT&T version and I was happy with it. Can't wait for it to come! Shipping estimate is for this monday! Exynos will have to wait till the next Note series for me. I also believe the Note 4 SD805 will have much better compatibility since the Nexus 6 is basically the same setup up.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hiepgia:
Geekbench Nexus 9 (Android AArch32?)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Toss3:
And that's without the benefit of Aarch64 (but it is clocked at 2,5Ghz and it is running Android L and the new ART runtime) :cool: Fastest mobile chip ever (exynos still beats it in the multi-thread part).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tr1cky1:
I'd really like to see some comparisons between the SD805 and the Exynos 7 regarding power consumption.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hiepgia:
Detail score vs Exynos 7

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/1007702?baseline=1014854
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cooldoc007:
official page does not say that it is 5433 or that it is 64bit...

another sammy trick??
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TraNe15:
I think it does... http://www.tabtech.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/samsung-galaxy-note-4-exynos-7-octa.jpg
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iba21:
For me samsung won't upgrade the note4 to 64bit..

Why?

2 causes:

1) note 3 was the perfect example, the chip could run hmp but, it doesen't get out with it, so, no hmp..

2) the upgrade from a pure 32bit to a pure 64bit os is absolutely invasive, you have to modify all partitions in the phone, and sure, if couldn't possible by little mb of ota upgrade.. samsung could upgrade only the kernel, but, where is the advantages of 64bit kernel if ALL apps are in 32bit??

There is a 3) point.. probably s6 will have the 64bit arch

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What do you think about snap 810?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
I think it's a good chip but until we see it in devices it'll have other competition against it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] EP2008:
Although Sammy has been breaking tradition with the Note 4, likely because of the iPhone 6+, so they can use 64 bit as a card up their sleeve if they want their sales to remain high. [emoji1]

Sent from my SM-N910U
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hiepgia:
1. TDP of this chip make Exynos 5420 can't run HMP.

2. No Partition modify needed for change 32bit to 64bit. Just change in kernel.

3. Java App ready for 64 bit already.

Samsung may change their mind (Because Qualcomm? Less chipset Snapdragon for Note 4). Let's wait and see.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
How many iPhone users bought the iP5s and iP6's because they were 64 bit? How many even know what 64 bit means? "Retina HD" on the iP6+ has less PPI (401) than even the SGS5 (432) yet the couple of people I know that bought them tout that as its biggest feature. Goes to prove you don't need great h/w and specs to make the masses think they have great h/w and specs. ;) As for Samsung, they could have played the "all eight cores running at once" card on the Note 3 and Tab Pro's by adding HMP to 5420. How'd that work out? ;)

Here are some comments about the Note 4 running ART which replaces Dalvik completely in 5.0 which is required for 64 bit support.

Here's what app developers need to add, remove, or both to their existing apps to optimize them for ART.

https://software.intel.com/en-us/bl...roid-app-still-run-with-art-instead-of-dalvik

For hard core XDA'rs and those who view their phone as a hobby all this is fantastic. For those that rely on their phones and use them as a tool that's a crap load of stuff to having moving generationally at the same time to potentially cause app and performance issues. Every one of Google's recent point updates required patching; sometimes in multiples. Let's see how smoothly the 5.0 roll out goes on Nexus devices. I guess how excited you are about 5.0, ART, and 64 bit comes down to which user camp you fall in. Be careful what you wish for, you may get it. ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ipsuvedi:
Confused between Exynos and Snapdragon versions, especially for 64 bit? Read this...

Many of us might be confused between SD ver & Exy ver especially for 64 bit thing, but today I realised something which is very satisfying reason to choose any of them.

Just see the specs of Nexus 6, it is running Lollipop but the processor is 32 bit same as Note 4. This describes how important 64 bit is for Android L, almost very minimal at present. This big thing to compare. If google himself releasing 32 bit devices for Andrroid then why we should be confused.

Just grab any ver of N4 without hesitation. The real beast is Note 4 itself :)

And remember, for future android updates/support...Snapdragon,...which in Nexus too.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mkim055:
Just purchased unlocked SM-N910U (Exynos) 2Degree official model in New Zealand. Very much satisfied with its performance.

As others mentioned, the phone become warm with heavy gaming/browsing.

There is no gapgate 'defect', for this phone neway.

Ask away if any kiwis here considering to purchase one.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
The Nexus 6 doesn't use a 64bit processor just because there is not any for high end smartphones.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] neflictus:
How long does the battery last on the Exynos model? Does it get very warm during normal usage ? Browsing etc.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iba21:
1) well do you think the tdp of 5422 is lower than 5420? I'm meaning about the arch transistors..

2) i was not meaning it's necessary to resize partitions, it's necessary to flash a lot of partitions, why? You may have the hboot witch can load 64bit code, well a 64bit kernel, and 64bit apps.. since samsung's rom are about of 1gb or more, well you have to download 1gb of data or more, if you only change the kernel you only could have a kernel in 64bit and all apps in 32bit, what a big advantages ;)

3) you have to reinstall app code, it's impossible to convert a 32bit app in a 64bit without the source code..

So.. only with a full rom flash you can full run a full 64bit os..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Okarina26:
for me ...exynos is the better choice.....!!!!!!

its so powerfull..!!!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] arjun90:
Which Exynos Note 4 model contains a CAT6 LTE Modem? Is it the N910C?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ghawyhob:
What diffrence between n910c,n910u and n910s,n910f
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
Hardware wise probably nothing. I think they are all qualcom variants and the only real difference will be the frequency they use. Different countries use different bands so Sammy have to make different variants for the frequencies
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pedmond:
Here is a list of all the variants. I have the sm-n910u version :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] POLO_i780:
Exactly!! :D

Got me a Note 4 N910F (Snapdragon 805) on Weds and thoroughly enjoying it :)

Snapdragon or Exynos, doesn't matter, just get your Note 4 and enjoy :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hiepgia:
1. Yes. SDP of Exynos 5422 is lower than Exynos 5420 by 15-20%. Samsung rearrange transistor and latter revision of A15 core to lower TDP.

2. Bootloader for 64 bit CPU is in retail unit now. It can run in 32 bit and 64 bit. Kernel can easy update. I handed on Nexus 9 already and yes, it running in 64 bit for most app in appstore. Only app use NDK must recompile to support 64 bit. Java app now support 64 bit. No system, kernel or data partition need modify to support 64bit needed for Exynos version.

3. Advantage of new Cortex-A57 core not only 64 bit. Lower power by control it and new architect give performance boost. A15 is not as strong as krait 400 because single score processing slower. A57 have better single core processing as well as multicore when compare with krait 400 android perf should be better on Exynos.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zioonlaw:
Hi guys,

I'm staying in Singapore and the the note 4 we getting are SD805 version ( SM-N910G) i think.

Thinking of getting exynos SM-N910C from malaysia. Is there any disadvantage of using 910c in singapore?

Read lot of article where people say that exynos support LTE cat 4 while SD805 support LTE cat 6.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] kristova86:
the following pic shown allocation of SN-805 and exynos 5433

so after we saw that snapdragon is more spread,will we get support here in the site for exynos

5433
[Galaxy Note 4 General] schlepprock:
Sorry guys I haven't kept up with this thread. Which version will we get in the US on sprint
[Galaxy Note 4 General] chanhny:
In korea. LTE is a top of world. Cat6 support too. In US can not compare with LTE in Korea.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] zioonlaw:
So N910C doesn't support LTE cat 6 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Zanr Zij:
It support LTE cat 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mkim055:
N910U is exynos + Cat6 support.

For whomever, including myself, mentioned exynos getting warm with heavy browsing/gaming, this was only with the first full charge. After that, not warm anymore.

I drained 50% battery it came with, did full charge, then drained to 0% again. This was when I noticed warm effect, but after that no longer warm with browsing/gaming.

Mine (N910U) came with slight red tint at lower portion of screen though :(
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bladefrost007:
Can you post picture of the slight red tint? Is it there when viewed at an angle?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Fatila:
Can the OP be updated with any benchmarks, or are there still none yet?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Mine doesn't have the red tint but the Galaxy S5 LTE-Advanced I got had it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] LBTaylor1984:
Which one will have the best Dev support, I have a LG G3 at the moment and the lack of modding support has driven me away, I'd like to get the chipset on the Note 4 with the greatest support.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cyberz:
Excuse me, anyone know if the S-Pen software of the SM-N910U also have Italian and English language?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Hannah Stern:
43 days old Thread...

This thread is ONLY 43 Days old (when i wrote this post)and has ALREADY 55 PAGES?

RESPECT!

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111 Posts! Repdigit!

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[POST TITLE: „Join date 2005“]

And also RESPECT FOR YOU!

Join date 2005 is VERY RESPEC TIVE.

2010 is still very respective, from 2011 on not anymore soo much.

Nothing against 2011/L8r-Joiners!

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Another Question: - Which one of those twos is in GERMANÝ?

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Ouch, there's a Visible one!

Well, no problem, happened very often to me as Junior-Member!¶·

Your „Colour=Silver“ is visible!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] lisbon2004:
Error!

Vodafone Spain uses 2600+1800 now, and 800 starting 01.01.2015.

in fact, as per samsung netmonitor, my phone sits in LTE 1800 all the time.

At least Russia is known to deploy LTE 700 too in near future.

All Europe, including Russia, now uses 3 LTE bands.

so to benefit from full-feared LTE with Carrier Aggregation (LTE-A 4/6) its crucial to have 800+1800+2600 and 700 would be great too.

Good news is that Note 4 european version (Snapdragon) and Note 4 russian version (Exynos) all have same bands - these one + american ones.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Creomortis:
Ok so I have a couple of questions. I am in the UK.

1) Is Exynos better than snapdragon in terms of performance and battery life? Is the GPU equal on both?

2) If I were to import the Exynos to the UK where should I buy from?

3) If I imported an Exynos and I had issues, where would I send it? Samsung UK? What is the process for this?

4) It looks like Exynos has full 64bit capability but will we actually see a difference for 64bit enabled apps? There is only 3GB of memory on the phone anyway...

5) Which Exynos model supports 800Mhz and the other bands in the uk?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] lisbon2004:
well, russian exynos 910C (cat.4) seem to have all the same bands as the european snapdragon 910F (cat.6).

B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B17(700), B20(800)

AND - it seems to be region-lock free.

european models are region-locked: (source)

Note: The device will be delivered with region lock.

Because of this lock, the mobile will only be usable in Europe or the European Economic Area. To use the device with a different SIM-card, it has to be unlocked by the manufacturer. The unlock process will not be done by computeruniverse, you will have to ask a local Samsung partner to do this. To use a European SIM-card for the first activation will not result in an automatic unlock of the device.

samsung obviously wants you to buy another Note 4 if you travel to the US...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iba21:
Well, never stop to learning :D

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 4 General] TANKRED_ENDURES:
gamebench exynos5433: Asphalt 8, Dead Trigger 2, GTA San Andreas, Modern Combat 5

search l6oQBQAq8Os in youtube

cant post outside links
[Galaxy Note 4 General] arjun90:
Too bad the LTE bands on the N910U are NOT SUPPORTED in the United States. :(
[Galaxy Note 4 General] codebeard:
I think 1900Mhz (band 2) should work, but that's the only one maybe? It seems like the whole system is designed to be anti-competitive.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] arjun90:
Haha, when I asked an ebay Seller (never-msrp) if the "U" variant will work on the LTE networks such as T-Mobile in the United States, the seller bluntly replied "NO" :(
[Galaxy Note 4 General] codebeard:
According to this article, T-Mobile plans to use 1900 MHz LTE for rural areas, so the eBay seller is probably doing the right thing by not misleading you into believing it's going to work everywhere (for that you'd also need 1700 and 700/B4).

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...eployment-expand-network-footprint/2014-09-24
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
Thanks! Pretty low numbers tough. :c

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1) Exynos should be faster but it has less powerful GPU. Battery is still unknown.

3) Samsung UK has to repair your device but the warranty most likely wouldn't work (ask them). For warranty you would have to send your phone to the country you bought it from.

4) The chip is 64bit capable but is currently limited to 32. It is still unknown if we will see it running in 64bit.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Creomortis:
Thanks
[Galaxy Note 4 General] the duderino:
once again exynos or sd???

hey guys i always tought because of the youtube benchmark scores of the device that exynos version is a lot more powerful. but latest russian fps showing video shows that exynos sucks on most games... maybe the power saving feature is open. i dont care a bit about lte cuz we dont have it here on Turkey for now. all i need is the highest gaming performance on a qhd device. since they are selling both versions on Turkey, which one i should buy for longer term gaming performance???

Thanks in advance...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Exynos seems better in games. Atleast we saw here in other threads exynos give more fps in most games.

If im not wrong the video you mention his tests wrong

dead trigger is smooth in high settings but lags with lower details its a bug or something happens with tegra devices too.

And san andreas is very smooth on my device dunno what he was doing.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] the duderino:
was thinking the same...

i was sure about this thank you so much bro... because of my experience with note 2 i'm sure that guy's power saving mode is open.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] boodies:
Yeah I hope the devs will now give us the option to change the resolution. Some games are automatically upscaled 1080p or 720p I believe Real Racing 3 does this.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] anonymous-_:
what you say?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] arjun90:
I'm beginning to feel that developers support the more mainstream Snapdragon SoC than others like Exynos and Tegra. Depending on how developers optimize things, Snapdragon's 805 SoC may actually stand out more in the long run over Exynos. More manufacturers are sticking to Snapdragon (various devices) instead of fabricating their own SoC's. At least Exynos is favored by some folks in XDA.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
That would be awesome indeed, but I think most people are not considering lowering the resolution for gaming. I really wanted to know if the games that gamebench video showed are running on 1080 or 1440. Really hope they all are 1440, so we could increase an average of 50% more fps setting to 1080 on those games constantly hitting 20 fps.

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If you guys find other gamebench videos, can you please post them? Also waiting for a speed test comparison between the two.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tornado6:
Got the Exynos version of Note 4 as im in South East Asia. So far the phone is quite smooth and battery wise it quite good. Gonna try some graphic intense game, any recommendation?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
You could try the same games as this guy using gamebench app. Could you do that? Or any other heavy game, just test it with 2 or 3 games using this application. Please ;)

Just make sure there's nothing else running on the background and no power saving mode. A phone restart would be nice too, if I'm not asking too much.

[YOUTUBE]l6oQBQAq8Os[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tornado6:
Sure! will try that once im back to home from work :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cyberz:
No one which have the sm-910u can answer?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
The Note 4 of the video lags cause he is playing game after game for a long time one after other without any time to the phone to rest, you can see it when he is switching of game in Gamebench, I guess the GPU is throtteling.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
Better this way so we can see how it performs under stress.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
The handwriting ?? Yes, it has Italian and english.

But he is not making a stress test, he is showing how the phone should perform with a game, he is not telling you the time he needs to play to the device gets hot or whatever.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cyberz:
I knew the handwriting have the languages. My question is for the menu(s) of the little circle, when tap and hold the S-Pen on the display and all other dialog windows of the S-Pen "software suite".

Excuse me for my bad English!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gabrielgon:
What I meant by stress is just gaming for some time. Sorry for not being clear. A stress test is indeed another thing.

Rewriting what I meant, I think it's better to do these tests in a row, that way we can see how the phone handles gaming for long periods.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ps000000:
I am a flashaholic but Snap 805 still no 64Bit support.

The 2015 flagship will sport a 810/808 with 64Bit support. Wait until next year. :p
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Yep, it has support for Italian and a lot of languages.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] torickray:
I switched to ART yesterday, not much different in terms of performance. However, S Health stopped working. The flashlight in the S-view stopped working as well.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] morell2:
http://is.gd/GZNo91

Try to register for the giveawaay
[Galaxy Note 4 General] CLARiiON:
I think I am certain now that Exynos 5433 is a 64-bit SOC. Check my post on another thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=55379823&postcount=52
[Galaxy Note 4 General] CLARiiON:
New Geekbench numbers are up. Model SM-N910C is Exynos-based.

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/775311

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/search?q=universal5433

Compared to nvidia Shield tablet:

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/775334?baseline=775311

Compared to 805:

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/752193?baseline=775311
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
They are getting even better.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] CLARiiON:
Yep ;)

It should be pre-release software. I am sure within next 2-3 months, these scores will be even higher.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
I am thinking to buy the Exynos version throught importation, do you know where can i get exynos versions of Galaxy models ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] CLARiiON:
Difficult to say now. But if you wait for 2/3 months, prices should come down a bit and you may get a proper idea on how to import from other countries.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sirobelec:
Very likely from here - http://www.28mobile.com/ - this is where you can get an S5 with quad HD, Snapdragon 805 and 3 gigs of ram... in other words, what the original S5 should have been. :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Yeah, but there is no Exynos variant of anyphone :S
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Nuu~:
Do you know what country 28mobile ships their items from?

Would be nice to know if I have to pay taxes to get it imported to Europe.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pete4k:
WTH, I just run antutu v5.0 on my qualcom Note3 and got 42942 score, that's higher than anything I had before (highest I got was little above 37k) and higher than all Note 4 scores. I did update the phone to NF9 but it has to be newer version of Antutu to have different scoring to explain such a big difference. So which Antutu version did they run in those reports? If it's new one color me unimpressed.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] aydink_1903:
Exynos 5433

With Antutu 4, 40k+

With Antutu 5, 50k+
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
I looked for the scores in Geekbench of the iPhone 5s to see more and less how the A7 was in single core perfermance... The cyclon architecture of the A7 is for lower power or high performance modification of the Cortex A57 ??

Because it scores around 1400 with 1,3 GHz while the supposed 1'9GHz of the Note 4 scores juts 1200.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hiepgia:
It's a very big core when compare with A57.

Apple cyclone core use double transistor when compare with A57. Apple cyclone core have 6 decoder when compare with 3 decoder in A57. So lower freq will get higher score in single core. But in multicore, 4 core a57 will better than 2 apple cyclone core.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Andrewtst:
Antutu 5.0 will give nearly every phone another 5k to 10k++ scores than Antutu 4.0
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Komodo Rogue:
They'll no doubt have their individual strengths and weaknesses, but I think Exynos will be the better chip overall.

But for me, it doesn't matter. Samsung doesn't release the documentation developers need to make custom ROMs. I had an Exynos Note 3, and it was great, but I'm not a fan of touchwiz, and I really like cyanogenmod/PA/etc.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Thanks for the info.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pete4k:
I don't have time to look for technical details now, which may be very hard to get anyway, but I think the biggest speed boost Apple gets is the fact that it runs only on very limited variety of hardware. For example there are more versions of Galaxy S3, than all versions of iphones and therefore iOS can be very optimized accessing hardware directly, where Android must run properly on so many different hardware options (from one core to 8 cores, from Qualcomm to Mediatek and Exynos, from 0.5GB RAM to 3GB etc.) that it has to have huge overhead just to make it run properly. If Google wrote Android perfectly optimized for let's say Snapdragon 805, it would probably break, or at least slow down other CPU's, where Apple could hand code important parts of OS, separately for each and every phone model they ever had, if they wanted too. It doesn't help that Samsung (or LG for that matter) doesn't write the operating system, maybe that's why they're trying to come up with it's own Tizen. Also, some OS design choices Google made, make me scratch my head, like "Just In Time" compilation, finally being replaced now by ART, where every apps start is delayed by unnecessary compile time over and over again. Apple cores are faster than A57, but not as much as they seem, part of it is inefficiency of Android.