yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto 360] Dusty Rhodes:
For anyone interested... I removed the notch on my watch last night so there's no need for the band to have the cutout portion. I think I figured out how to install StrapCode Super Engineer II bands. I'll know for sure tomorrow when it comes in. Also, I got a 22mm shark mesh band from Strapcode to fit but it was too short for me to use. I was PISSED after the work of installing it only to have it be too short. Getting the pin in is an

absolute

pain.
[Moto 360] WingnutStrikesBack:
How you remove it?

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5 mit Tapatalk
[Moto 360] hotochan123:
probably some kind of pliers thus voiding the guarantee
[Moto 360] Dusty Rhodes:
Just used a small knife to shave away at the notch. It took a few minutes and some common sense and it crumbled away. Using a flashflight to guide me I made the area nice and flat. I couldn't care less about the warranty.
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
I did the same. Here's the result
[Moto 360] Dan76:
Looks really great, thanks for posting. Have a link to that watch face? It looks pretty awesome.
[Moto 360] Dusty Rhodes:
I figured out how to get thicker/heavier bands like the Strapcode Engineer Series on the 360. You need to swap the end that attaches to the clasp to become the end that attaches to the watch. Pretty simple and straightforward. First note that you need to downsize the band to 20mm NOT 22mm. A 22mm band is actually a perfect match to the slot but it leaves no room to access the pin should you need to remove it one day. Also you need to reuse the pins that came with the 360. The pins supplied by strap code are too short and too thick to work with the swapped end.

The band is connected by pushpins to the clasp.

Just push it in to disconnect it and swap the band ends around.

The end that connects to the watch goes from this...

To This!

Connect everything as usual and...

You're done! Notice the gap by the pin. If you use a 22mm band--the band will be flush and you will have no access to the pins.

I FORGOT TO MENTION... BE SURE TO CUT OUT THE PLASTIC NOTCHES ON THE BODY OF THE M360, OR THE BAND WON'T FIT.
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Very nice! I think I may need to buy a engineer band now lol thanks!
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
You need facer to use it. Unzip and put the unzipped folder into the facer folder.

https://mega.co.nz/#!GJ5nzTTT!x0OBNRsTPN-d_h-b6DJotk2GJYj1C-jGVk8bgcoyQYk
[Moto 360] dhoppy:
Wow, that's a cool face. Is there a forum where people are sharing the faces they create?
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
You can find some on reddit.com/r/facer

But some are here as well as reddit. Go to the theme and apps section here on xda.
[Moto 360] jrichardsMav:
Hadley Roma 22mm does not work with the Moto 360. Bought one and it failed.
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Thanks for reporting back. Do you have a pic of it? Is it leather? Metal? Why doesn't it fit? Too thick?
[Moto 360] bsjmcconnell:
Installed the pebble steel black band... Looks Sweet and only $19.99
[Moto 360] usafle:
I've heard people say that if you change the band to a metal one, you won't be able to charge the watch on a Qi "puck" charger because it won't lay flat or something like that.

Anyone run into this issue?
[Moto 360] Dusty Rhodes:
I'm using a thick and heavy 316L solid steel band and I haven't experienced any issues on any of my flat charging pads or with the OEM charger. I also haven't had any issues with bluetooth interference.
[Moto 360] yannctw:
Hi,

I just received mine and immediately switched the band to this one amzn.com/B005EJG1A0.

You can see the result here

drive.google.com/file/d/0BzqsFi_mL9LLcHY5R1Vwc0Flc1U/edit?usp=sharing

In the details, I used this toot amzn.com/B005ZEWGSA and I also sand down a little the sides at the extremity of the last links (all 4 of them, see picture below).

drive.google.com/file/d/0BzqsFi_mL9LLcHY5R1Vwc0Flc1U/edit?usp=sharing

The fit is a little tight and I might sand down the sides of the tubes in which the spring bar are inserted. But overall I'm pretty happy about the result, although I still have an issue with the band as I failed to remove one link. I guess I will have to bring it to a shop for that.

PS: sorry for not embedding the links but xda forbids me to do it because I'm too much a newb!
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
How are you using the flat chargers with a bracelet? I can use the moto charger and my orb by looping it underneath the orb. I have 316L SS band as well and both charges fine. No change in BT either.
[Moto 360] Dusty Rhodes:
I just slip it on the charger.
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Ah...I have small wrists so that wouldn't work too well for me lol. Loving that SE band! I can't wait to get my SS version!
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Here's mine on the Nexus orb charger.
[Moto 360] jeren17:
Yeah, I can confirm using a Pebble Steel band on a flat qi charger will give issues. It's not flexible enough to lay flat over the charger. Simple fix by using a rubber band over the watch face and around the charger.
[Moto 360] quad150db:
What band is this?
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Sorry who are you asking? Mine is from a micro brand Lew and Huey, and the band is is off my Cerberus.
[Moto 360] quad150db:
Sorry thought I quoted you in my reply.

Yes, I was referring to your stainless one on the q charger.
[Moto 360] aviatordoc:
I hav the pebble SS band on my 360 and am able to place it in its original charging dock like always and charge. Just be sure to open the clasp.
[Moto 360] yannctw:
No it works, you just have to sand down a little the sides of the first link, on each side of the watch.
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
My ss says hi lol
[Moto 360] Dusty Rhodes:
Nice, looks really good! Makes me want to get an SS!

Did you have a hard time connecting the swapped end into the clasp?
[Moto 360] aviatordoc:
Kpjimmy, do you have the link to the exact band that you bought. Is it brushed SS?
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Thanks! After you reminded me of the swap ends that was all she wrote lol. I always wanted the super engineer and you presented the perfect opportunity!

However I have a custom made leather band also on its way. I had my guy start it a week ago.

And to answer your question...no it wasn't that difficult. I tried to reconnect the ends with the protective wrap and of course didn't work lol. But it worked fine after I unwrapped it.

[MENTION=5254011]aviatordoc[/MENTION]

And the link to the strap is here:

http://www.strapcode.com/store/20mm...tch-band-push-button-p-1847.html#.VCDeRb3F-E0
[Moto 360] Crazypinoy9:
Does anyone know if this one would work as long as I get the Lug 20/20 Buckle?

If so will it work without modification?

http://www.strapcode.com...

Thanks for any help in advance! :highfive:
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
In "modification" you mean scrapping the notches or cutting a notch in the metal band by dremelling? Then no. The end links will not fit without some sort of modification.
[Moto 360] jaykimdotnet:
I have a jankier solution.

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[Moto 360] jaykimdotnet:
I had to switch back to my leather strap when this crack appeared.

Addendum- I was using the Pebble Steel band.
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Yes, the "fused-link" issue as someone else stated. The reason for the notch is to keep bands from bending over the watch. Unless you have a link like a super engineer band, the metal bands will not work. Whereas I scrapped down my notches to make my band fit. :).
[Moto 360] maximus96:
just so i'm clear, the super engineer band will bypass this "cracked back" issue? so the first link that goes into the m360 body doesn't move all? thanks

also, is that a Type I or Type II? I see Type II is $10 more, what's the difference?
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Yes. The first link is long enough so that the "bend" or elbow of the link will pass the watch, so the back will not break. The first link is stationary and does not move at all.

The SE is a SE Type II. The Type I is more of a rounded links, which I think would still work, but not 100%, sorry.
[Moto 360] maximus96:
Thanks. Just put in an order for a 20mm stainless steel type ii. The pebble ss band feels really cheap and flimpsy...
[Moto 360] seh6183:
Jimmy, which one of these bands are yours? The 22mm or the 20mm? I'm getting ready to purchase.

20mm

http://www.lewandhuey.com/20mm-stai...d-links-and-double-locking-clasp-for-acionna/

22mm

http://www.lewandhuey.com/22mm-stai...-links-and-double-locking-clasp-for-cerberus/

I'm assuming the 22mm because you mentioned you took it off your cerberus. I am just looking for the best fitment. Thanks.
[Moto 360] ChrisNee1988:
Anyone have a solution to use a pebble steel band without cracking the back or have another relatively cheap band that will work?
[Moto 360] seh6183:
What hell are you talking about? You can put the pebble band on with no issues whatsoever. As posted by 78 people on this forum.
[Moto 360] ChrisNee1988:
I have the pebble steel band and i notice that the back is starting to crack. There's 2 very small hairline crack on the corners of the back near where the band is.
[Moto 360] akellar:
There's a pretty large contingent with broken watches that say otherwise. No issues is far from accurate.
[Moto 360] seh6183:
Well.....

I have the pebble steel. Just looked at it closely and while there is no cracks, I can see how the band rests on the plastic back. Didn't notice this until just now. This can easily crack the back. This band will be coming off tonight and I would like to retract my previous post completely lol
[Moto 360] ChrisNee1988:
I was wondering if there would be any way to still use the band but adjust it in a way to minimize damage.
[Moto 360] koricua74:
Edit found where it was said:

Also after looking at your links I noticed that they weren't the style he has on his watch. Here's the link to the band he's using:
[Moto 360] Dan76:
For anyone still interesting in swapping in the Pebble Steel band, check out this good vid by 9-5 Google:

http://9to5google.com/2014/09/26/replacement-steel-band-moto-360/
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Sorry, been out of town on business....

Yes I have used both the Cerberus band and now sporting the Super Engineer II band with the ends swapped like dusty rhodes who first did it. BUT the difference is that I used the 22MM from the Cerberus because the end link is only a tab/middle part of the bracelet that can hold the spring bar. Because the band goes into the watch slightly, the tab gets hidden under the watch and looks pretty seemless. And no the band does not shift at all. PLEASE NOTE: the notches IN the watch are cut/scrapped out so be forewarned that any unmodified band WILL NOT WORK unless you scrap out the notches. This modification of the watch is needed for both of these bands that I personally know of.

Yes! The super engineer is the 20MM version, because of the end link issue. You can try the 22mm but both me and dusty feels that the band will fit flush with the watch and even with watch tools, the 22mm band will be a pain to install and uninstall.
[Moto 360] koricua74:
So for the SE II to work I have to "scrape" out the notch in the 360?
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Yes
[Moto 360] spencerp83:
Kpjimmy,

Do you have the brushed or polished version of the SE II and which one do you think looks better? (I have the stainless M360 as well) Yours looks amazing!
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
It's brushed. The sides look polished though. Is the link to the polished version? I haven't checked yet.
[Moto 360] bertestlow:
Pushpin direction on 20mm Engineer

Trying to follow your footsteps despite my having two left feet.

Have my new band at hand and ready to switch the ends. I see no arrows on band. Can I assume the pushpins run in the same direction as the screws? Perhaps the pins can be moved in both directions.

Greta band and your great instructions.
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
At the ends, those are called spring bars. Just use a paperclip or what I use, a thumb tack to push it out. And yes you are correct, it doesn't matter which side you push from.
[Moto 360] spencerp83:
The link was to the brushed version. I didn't realize there were 2 versions of the SE II (Polished or Brushed). In the pics yours looked polished. I just wanted to see which you thought would look best since I've never seen either in person.

Yours looks great in the pics!
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Thanks man, well actually I went with brushed because the moto is brushed really. I think polished will look just as fine, but keep in mind, polished will get swirly scratches and brushed hides them better lol. Just food for thought.
[Moto 360] realsol:
I accidentally ran accross this watch band as I was looking for a good silicone watch band (I had given up on finding a nice black steel band) and I spotted the Truffol Strap Replacement Band for Pebble Steel Smartwatch Metal Watch 20mm 22mm for Men for Women. Has anyone tried this?
[Moto 360] johentie:
there's a thread on Androidcentral saying that this band is too thick... it won't fit..

---------- Post added at 09:37 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:36 AM ----------

anyone want help a brother out and have a Black Pebble Steel band for sale? In Toronto ... can't seem to find one unless I wait 2-5 weeks from Amazon..

will pay for the item and shipping ; > thanks!
[Moto 360] maximus96:
I fitted my super engineer II band this weekend. Looks and feels great. Has a very nice and premium-feeling heft to it. I'm slowly getting over the butt-hurt from spending $73 on a band. The only thing that worries me now is the wimpy stock spring bar that I had to re-use to install the SE band. The bars that came with the SE band were too short. Does anybody have any recommendations to beef up the spring bars?

thanks
[Moto 360] JimSmith94:
Watch/jewelry stores have boxes of pins. They should be able to find a set that will work for you.
[Moto 360] realsol:
Thanks for the info. Found one other that has been out of stock, but back in stock today, Navy Seal Black Steel Band for Luminox 3000/3900 Watches

Have you heard anything about this one. It looks nice. but kinda has a strange pin configuration. I have 2 different silicone bands coming along with a great tool that will make switching bands a breeze (SE - Spring Bar Tool Set). But I still want to quickly switch too a nice metal band at times.
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
I have a bunch of 22mm springbars, but have been using the SE II band all week and wearing it non-stop. Also changing the bands left and right today with my custom leather band. They do sell thicker springbars. IIRC, the Seikos use beefy ones on their watches. I recall my Seiko neo monster has beefy ones, but I never used them because the bands I used in the past couldn't handle the girth. (that sounded all kinds of wrong lol)
[Moto 360] cincij:
For the guys running the Super Engineer bands....are you all using the 20mm? Hoping I can run a 21mm or even a 22 with notches dremeled out for pin relief.
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
21mm can work. I decided not to go 21mm because I don't have any other watches that take that size band.

I got my custom leather band in and it is 22mm. Even though it fits the band is flush, but the leather has some give, so I can use my watch tools to remove the leather band.
[Moto 360] tlxxxsracer:
got my pebble band. Had to remove 5 links to fit my small wrists

https://app.box.com/s/to9r3x9exwj55t4015ob
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Keep an eye out on the back of the watches. I have read many users having issues with the cracking of the semi-circles on the watch with the pebble. There is a stress point that most overlook. Just be aware of it.

Looks good!:good:
[Moto 360] tlxxxsracer:
Yup I'm aware. :) Ill check it every day. I dont have it really tight. It has freedom to slide up above my wrist and below. if i took another link out itd be TOO tight and cause even more stress. i figured 20$ is good for a steel band. I love the 360 even more now. im not afraid to get it wet :)
[Moto 360] Chris Hansen:
Nice watch and keyboard! :good:
[Moto 360] silicij:
Nice watchface! Can you share It? Tnx ;)

Sent from my LG G3
[Moto 360] spencerp83:
Got my 21mm super engineer II in today. F-ing love it! I used a small screw driver and heated it up with my gas stove and then touched it to the little plastic notch and melted it. Took all of 2 mins. I will say though that if you use the 21mm instead of the 20mm you will need to shave the sides that insert into the clasp (middle of the band not on the watch). I had originally ordered a 20mm but ended up going with the 21mm. No noticeable difference between the sizes.
[Moto 360] maximus96:
20, 21, 22mm are all the same except the part that originally goes into the watch. since we have to flip it around to work on the moto, all sizes are effectively 20mm
[Moto 360] spencerp83:
The part that originally was made to connect to the watch is now used to attach to the clasp. That part (being 21mm) doesn't fit the clasp (smaller than 21mm). It would need to be shaved. I had a 21mm version and a 20mm version. I used the piece from the 20mm version and it fit right in where the 21mm end would not fit without being shaved to a smaller size. I can post pics if necessary but i think it's pretty self explanatory.

Someone with no tools and the small amount of ingenuity required would not be happy with the 21mm version. The 20mm is plug and play.
[Moto 360] maximus96:
that's what I meant. the band is 20mm whether you buy the 20mm, 21mm, or 22mm version. the only difference is the part that we now flipped around and put it in the clasp and 21+mm will not fit without modifications.

i originally thought the 21 and 22mm version would come with 21mm and 22mm bands...so for future reference, just buy the 20mm version.
[Moto 360] Steve-x:
The face is on facerepo.com
[Moto 360] AndroidRyan:
How do you have a keyboard on the moto360?
[Moto 360] HansWursT619:
German amazon.de does not have to original Pebble Steel Band, but this 2 looks pretty similar.

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=455353687&pf_rd_i=301128

http://www.amazon.de/VicTsing-Brand..._sbs_ce_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0VH4R837R66SKGWDYVCE

Only those small holes to shorten the band are round on this and open to one side on the original Pebble Steel one.

Does anyone know about the quality of these? Or can say something about the Pebble one?

Because 20$ is pretty cheap and i don't want a flimsy band on the watch.
[Moto 360] tlxxxsracer:
It's not a keyboard.
[Moto 360] forsaken82:
put my black super engineer 2 band on day before yesterday, and it made me love my 360 even more. watch looks amazing now!
[Moto 360] hamsup1o:
For those with the SE II bands, is it possible to dremel out a notch on the band instead of shaving the notch on the watch?

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Moto 360] maximus96:
much much easier to do the watch side instead of cutting the band...the plastic tabs are very thin
[Moto 360] Dusty Rhodes:
It's awesome to see so many of you are enjoying the StrapCode SE II band on your 360s! I'm glad I helped everyone out! Of course, now my watch/band combo isn't a one of a kind.

If any of you have a spare link from a black 20mm I'd be super appreciative! I just need one, just PM me!
[Moto 360] snowwhite007:
Im using the pebble steel with no issues at all no cracking at all
[Moto 360] Tex_Norseman:
I believe it's a design flaw with the watch, not so much what band you use. Several people reporting cracks even with the issued band.... See this reddit post..

http://imgur.com/OFxhBmO
[Moto 360] jermaine151:
If you could give me the link to the Exact black SE band you purchased, I'm sure I'd be able to spare a link when I get it. They have too many choices and I want to make sure it fits like yours and kpjimmy's.

Thanks!

P.S. How bad is the chipping on the black (i.e. silver coming through)?
[Moto 360] zaydaboss:
Tried a leather strap and failed. The padding was too thick. Decided to go with the pebble steel band. I like that its light unlike most here.
[Moto 360] Dusty Rhodes:
Here's the exact band and link!

Thanks I have Amazon Prime so delivery was super quick. Looks like they only have one band left.

http://www.amazon.com/20mm-Engineer.../B007NFGGIU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1412794761
[Moto 360] jermaine151:
Thank you Dusty! I just ordered that last one. :p Is the black chipping off? I did 1 day shipping since I'm anxious, so it should be here tomorrow.
[Moto 360] Dusty Rhodes:
No, the coating is PVD and it doesn't chip off unless you scrape it against something harder. I have a 24mm SE II band on my Sony SW2 that I used for almost a year with daily use and it still looks perfect to this day. There was one reviewer who said that his coating was chipping off, I have no idea what that fool is talking about.
[Moto 360] jermaine151:
LMAO! I wondered when I read his review. Thanks for letting me know. Once I get it installed, I'll see if I can figure out how to get a link out for you. It looks like a tiny flat head (like a glasses tool) is needed to remove the links. I've never tried that before. Should be something that can be mailed in a regular envelope for the cost of a stamp. Is your arm too big for stock size or you lost a link?
[Moto 360] Dusty Rhodes:
I like to wear my watches super loose with almost an inch of droop on the band. I have a fairly big wrist and the standard SE II band is loose, but I wanted a bit more droop. I threw in a link from a spare silver 20mm SE II, and now it's nice and SUPER loose. The problem is having a single silver link looks cheap. I wrote StrapCode to buy an individual link but they said they don't sell individual links due to demand/supply. Seriously... one link.

I greatly appreciate your help! If you can spare a link I'll reimburse you for your troubles with a gift card to buy a beer or two on me!
[Moto 360] tony1208:
Just brought the Pebble Steel for my black 360, was an easy install. This will do for now until the official 360 black band is out. $20 bucks at best buy I think it looks sweet.

[IMG="Pebble steel band"]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/tony1208/IMG_20141008_1607232_zpsf40e3f8f.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="band2"]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/tony1208/IMG_20141008_1606582_zps235fc9a0.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="band3"]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/tony1208/IMG_20141008_160638_zps013692a1.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="band4"]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/tony1208/IMG_20141008_160624_zps06ba135d.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="band5"]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/tony1208/IMG_20141008_1605592_zps377db71f.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="charging"]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/tony1208/IMG_20141008_160528_zps1dd54581.jpg[/IMG]
[Moto 360] Damitu:
Metal Band.

Yesterday I went to Best Buy and got the Pebble steel band for $20. Always had difficulty installing them in the past so I went to a watch store and got it done for $10.
[Moto 360] tony1208:
Same here
[Moto 360] jermaine151:
I'm sure I'll be able to help ya out! It should be here this evening. I think I might get a head start on scraping out the plastic.

Be careful guys. A few posts in this thread mention the Pebble causing the back of watches to crack.
[Moto 360] jermaine151:
It was a pain but I got it replaced. I'll try to take a link out tomorrow, when I'm at work and have access to my tiny screwdriver.
[Moto 360] Dusty Rhodes:
That band is awesome. Looks good! When you get it off just let me know and I'll PM my address and donate.
[Moto 360] jermaine151:
We have lift off! PM your address and I'll drop it in the mail.
[Moto 360] Dusty Rhodes:
PM Sent!

Thanks!
[Moto 360] b1urr:
My New Band

I had this 20mm Hadley-Roma watch band professionally installed today from my local jeweler. I love the look and So far no radio interference despite what was stated by Motorola. I believe that you can buy the band at the link below however keep in mind I did not buy this from amazon and it may not be the exact same band and I recommend professional installation.

http://www.amazon.com/Hadley-Roma-M...819&sr=8-6&keywords=Hadley-Roma+20mm+two+tone

I initially had the pebble steel band installed but i decided that I got tired of having my hair yanked out by the band so I bought this one.

For anyone interest I also attached the watch face that I was using in the picture. Sorry the pic is a little blurry.