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[SuperSU] Chainfire:
Thanks for the kind words!

It saddens me that some feel I abandoned 100 million users, but it's not like the existing SuperSU versions will suddenly stop working for everybody who's using it. There's no upgrade requirement - there are in fact millions upon millions of users running old (some even bordering on ancient) SuperSU versions on their devices. I've seen alternate paths suggested, but none of those were a good fit for me or the app. Things aren't always as simple as people make them out to be.

I can't predict what the future will bring. But what I can say is that they never divulged any spy-ware or ad-fest plans to me. On the contrary, they've said at every turn they want to continue it in the same spirit I have built SuperSU. The worst thing they've come up with in our cooperation is wanting analytics, and those were never even implemented. And for all the drama associated with said analytics, it is a completely normal practice that all business people in app companies push for, and probably more than half the apps or more on your phone are using it (with or without your knowledge). Even CyanogenMod had it, although it was removed again after much drama from a 'vocal minority' (as Steve himself put it).

It does bother me that because they are Chinese they are automatically the bad guys. The stigma associated with being Chinese is one of the reasons they were hesitant in divulging who they were. I've told them from day one it was better to just bite the bullet, but I can't change how it went down now. CCMT (us)'s parent company JJ (cn) is a fairly large company with fingers in many pies. While some like to spread FUD about how they're out to dupe everyone, it seems to me that SuperSU is just another investment vehicle for them, and ultimately they will do what makes economic sense within their mission statement and the rules of the Play Store, like any other company.

It should be noted that if they would ever implement backdoors/spyware, that would instantly collapse SuperSU's value, and the return-on-investment would end up negative. That doesn't sound like a very good investment strategy to me...

I've seen people on Reddit spread all sorts of FUD based on the release issues with v2.80. Haters gonna hate, they don't need facts for that. There's no convincing or reasoning with conspiracy theorists, nor is there predicting the future. Only time will tell.

Regarding FlashFire, it doesn't immediately affect it at all. Long-term depends on what projects I'm going to take on. Or maybe I'm going to put my feet up for a few months.

SR releases will also be taken over by CCMT. I do expect them to be less numerous, at least short-term.

Support will also be provided by CCMT here on XDA. Otherwise, you can always find support on supersu.com , where the official forums are.

We will start transitioning XDA threads and such next week, it is currently a holiday in China.
[SuperSU] Ch3vr0n:
Well I am a bit guilty of the Chinese badguy stigma. More often than not they really are (ex explorer, kingroot...). But these do indeed so far seem to be legit, as you say the analytics never did make it into a stable release.

Let's hope those change will be for the better on both fronts and that you'll be able to do all the things you want to do with all the other apps. I use a couple them and I am definitely curious what his will bring to flashfire, stickmount and CF.lumen for example.

All the best and I hope we'll still see you around here.

Sent from my Nexus 6P with Tapatalk
[SuperSU] jcsww:
You can't please everyone! Over the last decade though, you went above and beyond trying. Happy retirement, Chainfire! Thank you for all of your contributions to Android and to each and every one of us that root our devices.
[SuperSU] ianmacd:
Good grief. More often than not?

You just tarred 1.4 billion Chinese with the same brush... again!
[SuperSU] DodoGTA:
Slight offtopic: [MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] Why are most (if not all) of your mods/apps/tools closed-source?
[SuperSU] zelendel:
I hate yo say it but you should have seen that coming. You have been around to know why Chinese companies are not really trusted. They kinda did that to themselves.

Of course they wouldnt tell you if they planned on doing that as they know how you would have reacted. Time will tell if they hold up to their end of the bargin.

While most that were gonna change to something else already has they will have to expect a major decline in SU usage. That is only because of you. People trust you. The company on the other had has not earned that trust.

As for return on investment. I not sure that will play a big roll. With the way things are becoming locked down, Root will become a very niche group due to losing things like warranty as well as bootloader unlocks being far less avaiable. but like you said. All they can do is sit back and wait and see. Even though I have a feeling now that you announced you are done that the usage will drop off by alot.
[SuperSU] supermaus100:
this works synonymous for sony xz Premium
[SuperSU] NLBeev:
I am aware of the short quote.....

In the Netherlands we have a verb that sounds like 'unknown makes unliked'.

I understand your post. But let's not forget the 'well known' big companies. Grabbing and selling our personal data and using tax evasion systems in EU-countries.
[SuperSU] zelendel:
Oh I am not. I am fully aware that every country tries and does get alot of data. Its just things like this are always a huge trust thing. The only reason this got as big as it did was because the community has great trust and respect for the dev which he earned over time.

All we can really do

A. Make the data as little as possible

B Accept it and not worry about it

C. Or my personal fav. Make all the data useless by making it all fake or doing things that would seem very random.
[SuperSU] Phazmos:
1 thing I learned as I got older - paranoia just isn't worth my time. Just wish I realised it a lot sooner!
[SuperSU] ianmacd:
It's rather odd that people continue to single out the Chinese. They really are the comic book villains of XDA.

Snowden revealed that every single byte of data travelling across any network located in the US is suspect, regardless of the nominal integrity of the company that happens to own and manage the infrastructure.

By rights, anyone who doesn't feel comfortable using SuperSU out of fear that the app may be siphoning off data to Beijing should be boycotting the products and services of each and every American company, too.

The US government is a much greater threat to your data than the Chinese.

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Part of trusting [MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] is surely also trusting his judgement when he says that CCMT represent a safe pair of hands. If he wouldn't do anything malicious with the code, then he presumably wouldn't just hand it over to someone else who would, either.
[SuperSU] nativetap:
I know this is totally off topic, but I wanted to thank the OP for the contributions he has made to the community - a lot of what we do wouldn't be possible without him
[SuperSU] eTaurus:
You guys should create a "Chinese bad guys" thread (which may get closed very fast) somewhere else and leave [MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] and this thread alone.

To all Chinese users: Personally I would not participate in such a thread. It's only me being ironic.
[SuperSU] Megaflop666:
All working fine here on my pixel xl, if memory serves it was sr3 that broke twrp on pixel; if I'm wrong someone correct me please.
[SuperSU] Chainfire:
Of course I understand, and of course I saw it ("Chinese companies are not trusted") coming. But that doesn't mean I agree or that it doesn't irk me. It just illustrates the closet xenophobia/prejudice many suffer from. American bigcorps do a lot of (arguably: most) evil, so does the American government, and so do quite a few American people. Not to mention all the bad things the Dutch, German, Spanish, French, and British have done over time. But we generally don't hold that against anybody not directly involved. But somehow we do do this with Chinese, Russian, and other non-Western societies that we are not as intimately familiar with.

That is not to say you shouldn't be skeptical, or shouldn't make up your own mind, and that they will need to work very hard to create/maintain trust. Not knowing them and thus not trusting them is certainly not an invalid argument. But those who distrust them purely because they are Chinese need their convictions checked. Even if CCMT would royally screw things up, that still wouldn't validate the Chinese argument.

The brain is a pattern-recognition machine, and it will seek out and recognize patterns even if there are none to be had (easy example, in very low light you think you see things that aren't really there). And even if there is a visible pattern, correlation does not necessarily mean causation. If you feed the brain one-sided information (garbage in, cherry-picked bad news about Chinese), you will get the wrong ideas (garbage out, Chinese are bad). This is the base for much of xenophobia, bigotry, prejudice, discrimination, and also the very core of how large-scale media manipulation works.

Trying to identify those bad patterns and dismissing them should be a much higher priority for many... but I digress.

SR5 and suhide work fine, not sure about busybox. Best way is to flash back stock boot image, followed by TWRP, followed by SuperSU/suhide.
[SuperSU] ashyx:
I've got to agree with you here. I live in the UK and pretty much all the Chinese that live here, born or otherwise, are respected by us because they respect UK citizens, our culture and the UK.

They tend to keep themselves to themselves, are hard working, well educated, dont sponge off the state and are rarely involved in criminal activity.

They are not all bad.
[SuperSU] zelendel:
Im not saying that it is right. Just the way that it is. Had they been up front, then it might not have been such a big issue. The problem is when they try to be sneaky about things, which leads to the thought that they have something to hide. Yes, this happens in other countries as well. Like I accept the NSA monitors what I do (I made sure they tagged me) but I live in that country so I accept that. Not so much when it comes to other countries. Also have to take into account that China is a touchy subject right now with the US very close to war with China. Also comparing those other countries have one major flaw. They are not behind a communist military which pretty much still runs the country.

Its not just the Chinese part. That would have been over looked right at the start had they been open about things. They should have known that they "must" earn the trust of the people that use this. Mainly knowing that the people here trust no one without them earning it.

You are right. That is how media manipulation works. Good thing I dont follow the media or believe anything they say. I go from my own experience.

Which to be honest has not been the greatest when it comes to Chinese software. Which had I done research on the country before trying their software I would not have been surprised. The rules are very different between countries. Like data collection. While Chinese companies are used to having to get lots of data from their users, here in the states that doesnt fly. Not for foreign countries. It wouldnt matter if they are from China, Britain or anywhere else.

You want a good example of why they are not trusted then you have to go no further then Kingroot right here in the forums. Which is known to install malware on a device as well as the PC. Or many of the other China based apps and programs that have things like built in keyloggers and monitoring software. Which mind you is completely OK in China. Just not anywhere else.

You also miss the main subject of the matter. Its not the Chinese are bad. Its the Chinese military that is bad and has their hands in many things to this day.

I hate to say it but it is them that will have to prove themselves. Just like anyone else that has been shady in the past. They will have to work to earn peoples trust. Once they do then it wont matter where the company is from.

Like I said, it all comes down to how the company is perceived. They tried to do a back ally deal and want to keep to the shadows, well I can tell you from experience that when you stick to the shadows then you are flat out not trusted.

In time I hope they can earn the same trust that you have earned. To be honest, had I not followed your work from WM I wouldnt have been in a rush to trust you either when you released this. Trust is earned and never given freely.
[SuperSU] sharkie405:
Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes! Thank you for saying all of that.

I would have thought XDA would have been a little more free from prejudice and the like, but I guess not.
[SuperSU] Chainfire:
I think our points are starting to diverge and that we're debating two different things now. But at least on the above I think everyone can agree.
[SuperSU] zelendel:
I think we are at the same point. It all comes down to trust.

Agreed. This is where we can all agree. I know I will be watching to see how they handle things for the next couple of years. Then I'll make my own personal judgment.
[SuperSU] mrrocketdog:
mr. [MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] , ty for sharing your work , knowledge & time here on xda and elsewhere.

only the best wishes for you and yours.

p.s. i hope you find your shirt :)

fear a life unlived ; not death
[SuperSU] ashyx:
[MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] this might be a bit personal and asking too much, but before you go. Have you ever posted anywhere, who you are, where you are from, what you do in real life and where you learned your skills?

I'm aware of your real name, but your history intrigues me and I guess many others.

The fact that you've worked tirelessly on the many projects you've brought us has me wondering if you're man or machine? .:)
[SuperSU] shaggyskunk:
I'm guessing that Chainfire has posted the information that he'd like to share on his Profile... I'm guessing ?

Sent from my SM-G955W ??
[SuperSU] Ibuprophen:
There's a handful of websites (i mean decent ones) that have articles, from yesterday and today, regarding Chainfire's Retirement from SuperSU.

It's funny on what most of the information being written is reflecting...

Chainfire's still around and there's so much mentality reflecting the "R.I.P." state of mind.

He's not dead... LMAO!!!

I look at it as a moving on point for Chainfire and placing more of his attention to current and future projects.

I'm a little excited to see what the future holds for the Creative Genius (in his own right and category) named Chainfire!

When it comes to SuperSU... I'm still faithful to the development and will keep an open mind but, if the future of it turns grim, then there are plenty of other (very good) developers out there to turn to.

This is just my one and only, personal, thoughts and opinions regarding, what i feel, is a "Blown out of Proportion" mindset of so many (not all) individuals.

Thank you all very much [MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] ! :)

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[SuperSU] oldman_58:
You deserve the best, thank you for all you have done for the Android community. Hope your retirement is all you dreamed.

I hope that all the Dedicated Devs can accomplish what you have done, you will be missed.
[SuperSU] Ibuprophen:
With no disrespect to anyone (directly and indirectly) but, can we please get down to business as usual in regards to the thread title?

Maybe a different/new thread reflecting "The Chainfire's Super Duper SuperSU Retirement Party" thread... LMAO!

Thank you very much for your understanding! :)

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[SuperSU] Chainfire:
I posted a recap of what I did the past 10 years on my G+. My name and that I'm from the Netherlands is fairly common knowledge. What I do in real life - i.e. work - is what you see here on XDA. Aside from that I'm just your average guy...

GREETINGS FELLOW HUMAN, I HOPE YOUR INTERNAL ORGANS ARE FUNCTIONING WITHIN ACCEPTABLE PARAMETERS. I AM TOTALLY NOT A ROBOT.

Yeah yeah... :)
[SuperSU] Az Biker:
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. I don't really think it makes a difference which govt, or corporation it is, generally, they want power over the people. Some just go about it differently.

Americans have a love hate relationship with communist countries like China. On one hand, we think of them as the enemy because of political ideology, so yeah we think they're trying to take every advantage they can to further their advantage over the rest of the world. On the other hand, we love a lot of the stuff made there and can't live without it, and will look the other way to have it.

In the end, greedy, power hungry, unscrupulous politicians and corporations are a cancer to their citizens and their society, regardless of the color of their flag, their product, or the flavor of their ideology.

I let people prove to me why they shouldn't be trusted.
[SuperSU] DodoGTA:
Good idea for /r/totallynotrobots :p
[SuperSU] Sachin:
Thanks you Chainfire, you da best! :D
[SuperSU] DodoGTA:
Hi, [MENTION=5308231]sachinxda[/MENTION] (from Telegram, of course)
[SuperSU] elliwigy:
lol yes.. SamPWND is the name we called it.. root for USA S8/S8+ devices.. i know im late to reply apologies lol

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Agreed. I always see the light until they show the dark and as chainfire said, dont use one person/companies issues as an example of the whole country lol.

It is simply engraved in American culture to dislike Russia and China, some people just take it too far haha. Hell, I dont like Kim Jong Un because of how he runs his country but that doesnt mean I hate all North Koreans even though they truely hate us because I know they dont really have a choice and are kept in the dark and away from the rest of the world. Oh and they will get imprisoned or murdered by DPRK if they are pro American haha.

As far as Chinese products, thats another issue Americans have as many see Chinese products as low grade knock offs of the real thing lol

As far as chains retirement, well deserved and bitter sweet to say the least haha. Heres to hoping SuperSU doesnt turn into another Kingroot!
[SuperSU] Alxoom33:
Well, can we unlock and root the Pixel XL 2?
[SuperSU] clothednblack:
^^^this guy^^^

Lol
[SuperSU] Mr Hassan:
anyway to root at&t models? WO eng root?
[SuperSU] Ch3vr0n:
try asking / searching in your specific phone model forum section.
[SuperSU] shaggyskunk:
If you have a Locked Bootloader - You're not going to be able to Flash TWRP - You're not going to be able to Flash SuperSU - Depending on the device - There MAY be other options - But that's not the purpose of this Thread - Searching is your friend ?

Sent from my SM-G955W ??
[SuperSU] Alxoom33:
It's a new Google phone from Google. I doubt it is not unlockable. It has been pre-ordered. Just released last Wednesday.

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I have read the thread. This is new.
[SuperSU] supermaus100:
does not go with the sony xz premium. :(
[SuperSU] samlazaz:
This evaluation is insightful and somewhat true, in my estimation. However, I fear your humility regarding the importance of your own work causes your reasoning to suffer here. The Government of the PRC and the Government of the USA have an adversarial relationship. One of the primary issues between the two countries is the collection of economic intelligence by the PRC Government.

Can you see how it would be beneficial for the PRC to control or have influence over a Chinese Company that produces what may be the most ubiquitous apk on the Android platform among users that have root privileges?

We don't know the answers here... it could well be that CCMT is made up of good guys and that our fears, warranted or not, are not needed in this case. But from a security policy perspective, it just doesn't make sense to take that risk. Here's the point: A big part of what made SuperSU successful was trust - trust in you specifically. Unfortunately, trust is not a commodity that can be sold, as CCMT is no doubt experiencing now.

That said, I'd like to take my turn to thank you for all the hard work you've done that has directly benefited the community; especially your treatment of Android users without GApps.
[SuperSU] Phil3759:
Many thanks for all your hard work.

Hopefully you enjoy the other side of life, something more than writing lines of code that take your head over night.

People crying about CCMT should just understand they never have to root a phone if it contains sensitive data.
[SuperSU] fusk:
Getting failure, aborting when extracting ramdisk during flash.
[SuperSU] Ch3vr0n:
You need to provide the 'lastlog' file in the flashfire directory. Not a recovery logfile.

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[SuperSU] nkk71:
Where is my shirt?

I thought you were retiring from this :confused:

Instead you're fending off most accusations, and though I agree in essence with what some *higher* members have voiced, and I fully agree to certain *hesitation(s)* on their part, as much as I can trust CCMT's "word" (

yours is not in question

, you've given us 10 years if not more, and for that I am grateful), I am uncertain how much I trust theirs.

I am not part of the *policed US community*, so we can remove me from the supposed *all is transparent*. I'm also no part of any *transparent* ISP, the *all transparent* google, microsoft, apple, ... need I go on?

So all that ^^ aside, I'd like to say 3 things:

1- Are we going to trust CCMT

maybe

eventually

dunno

will it take them 10 years, and some code you voluntarily disclosed :cool:

2- Do we need root at all :eek:

And finally:

3- Where is my shirt? -> I hope it's on a beach next to the chair you're sitting on ;)

So why not take just chill out for a while

I wish you health, wealth, and joy :)
[SuperSU] nitanshu.vzard:
Moto G4 Plus Sim card not detected after flashing SuperSU

I currently have Resurrection Remix-N-5.8.5 on my device.

I was not able to get root access in apps so I flashed SR1-Super-SU-v2.78 using TWPR.

The flash was successful but after my device booted up, both the sim card were not detected.

SuperSU was installed and is working fine. My WIFI is also working fine, it just that sim cards are not detected.

My phone is displaying Baseband version.

SIM 1 status : SIM not inserted

SIM 2 status : SIM not inserted

In IMEI information, it is showing IMEI (Slot 1) and IMEI SV (Slot 1) but IMEI and IMEI SV for (Slot 2) are Unknown.

I have a nandroid backup of the stage before I updated my ROM. Will restore using nandroid fix this issue?

How can I fix this? Please help.
[SuperSU] Ibuprophen:
Just out of curiosity [MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION]...

Is the SR5 going to become v2.83 Stable?

Or is CCMT going to be continuing the Service Releases?

I'm not sure if this was realized or not.

Thank you very much! :)

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[SuperSU] KaMyKaSii:
Install the latest version, SuperSU v2.82-SR5 ...
[SuperSU] nitanshu.vzard:
Will it solve the issue?

Will it solve the issue?

Uninstalling current version(SR1-Super-SU-v2.78) and flashing again the latest version of SuperSU ?
[SuperSU] JakeDHS07:
No reason to uninstall. Just flash on top
[SuperSU] Mr Hassan:
i have the at&t device fullly modded in stock condition , that,s for i asked
[SuperSU] nitanshu.vzard:
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Thanks a lot !! I flashed it on top and everything went back to normal :D both the sim cards were detected.
[SuperSU] ko3st:
Good for you. Glad things worked out for you!

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