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[Moto 360] ayamy87:
In the description it says 3,5mm... It must fit :)
[Moto 360] bustanut666:
So after a week my pebble band started cracking back plate so I decided to Dremel it out with the wheel tool. Let's see if it helps. Looks like it would because it almost hangs straight down now.
[Moto 360] NWKENT:
The thing is..what causes the back plate to crack is the fact, that the band turns down to the conture of the arm/wrist to soon, thus the band on the inside, hits the "rounded" part of the back plate, what corrects this is a band that the first link (link with spring pins) are longer, don't turn down so soon, then with this longer first link, the second link in the band turns down, which clears the back plate, and doesn't exert pressure on the back plate..the band turning down to soon is the root of the concern with back plate cracking..

Those ones with the large arms/wrist wouldn't have the likeliness of the back plate cracking, because the band doesn't turn down abruptly..

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[Moto 360] Cr4z33:
Isn't that band supposed to be for women (I am serious)? :confused:

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[Moto 360] Chris_c81:
Is there a definitive list of straps which are confirmed compatible out of the box that won't damage the back?
[Moto 360] NWKENT:
Pink is not always for a woman..I like that band, will probably order one (similar to that one) tomorrow to go with the "shiny" 360 model I will plan to order tomorrow..Wish I could find that band in black, to go with my black 360..

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[Moto 360] akellar:
Yes the list is below

List

None, not even stock are guaranteed to not damage the back
[Moto 360] Darkne0:
Anyone get an order through Amazon for the official metal bands?
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
Cross posting from the pebble band thread;

Tl;Dr don't replace your watchband and if you did replace it you'd better put the original back or find some way to magic up some 'proof' that you had it swapped professionally before trying a warranty claim for a cracked back.
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
New custom leather another one from Clover Straps
[Moto 360] Metallice:
[accidental post]
[Moto 360] leyvatron:
Anybody have an extra stock leather band they want to get rid of for a cheap price?
[Moto 360] NWKENT:
Curious to how much exertion/pressure that band is putting on the "round" part of the back plate..possibly causing the plate to crack.?

Looks in the photos, that the band would be pressing on the back plate.?

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[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
This is my second band with the same measurements, but I I had the same thoughts. I'll keep an eye on it. But one thing is that I wear this band looser than my super engineer 2 band.

Also the leather near the semi circle is pretty supple and it's new and not worn in yet with wear.
[Moto 360] NWKENT:
Yes Sir..You may want to keep a close eye on the back plate pressure..looks like in your new photos, the band is pressing on the back plate "round" part just a bit..BUT..your wrist seem larger in diameter, and the bands roll around the arm/wrist is more suttle, less curving.. You may be fine thow..

If your wrist where smaller, like mine..I'd suggest changing bands immediately..but seems your bands roll around your wrist is not as abrupt as it would be on my wrist..LOOKS NICE THOW..Nice watch BTW..

:)

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[Moto 360] Lolapopi:
I think the best way now to look at NATO strap. I read a lot of information about this very interesting nylon watch strap. What I found, that they have a big amount of different colors. Also, they have different furniture (metal, black, gold). Now, I also have pebble and it has the same size 22 mm. So I think, I will grab some 3 or 4 nato straps from here: http://tafstyle.com . As I have red pebble

and black Moto 360. May be it will be nice to take something like this?

[IMG="nato strap 22 mm"]http://tafstyle.com/13-large_default/nato-strap-ducati-18mm-20mm-22mm.jpg[/IMG]

or this

[IMG="nato strap"]http://tafstyle.com/83-large_default/nato-strap-james-bond-18mm-20mm-22mm.jpg[/IMG]

or this

[IMG="zulu strap"]http://tafstyle.com/101-large_default/zulu-strap-comet-18mm-20mm-22mm-24mm.jpg[/IMG]

In the any way i think it will be better looks with black one like here
[Moto 360] OstrichSak:
I think those would look terrible on a Moto 360. Just my personal opinion though and it's your watch.
[Moto 360] Lolapopi:
you mean color?
[Moto 360] OstrichSak:
Color, style, design... pretty much the whole thing. Wouldn't really be my choice.
[Moto 360] GTiceman:
I tried a NATO on my 360 and I loved it, it was an 18mm so a bit small. It is tough fitting it in the slots, can't be easily removed like a NATO can on a regular watch. I will be putting NATO straps on when I get my adapter from SteelConnect
[Moto 360] slaydog:
Picked up this one at one of those kiosks in the mall. Very chunky and weighs a ton but fit perfectly into the slots on the watch (once I got rid of those pesky ridges, lol).

Sticks out nicely and doesn't touch the edge of the plastic back at all.
[Moto 360] spinaldex:
I bought this band from Best Buy a few days ago:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/kreisle...5565.p?id=1219365670017&skuId=8755565&cmp=RMX

Installed it, including removing 2 links to fit it on my wrist, in less than 5 minutes.

[IMG="Kreisler Tech Band on Moto 360"]http://i.imgur.com/gLm0gc3.jpg[/IMG]

I've had a number of people comment on my new watch now that barely noticed it when it had the stone band on it. Made a remarkable difference and $30 puts this under the price of the new version due to come out in the next few months.

Edit: Oh, and since people often ask what faces people are using, I'm a big fan of Corv's faces. The one displayed is Corv Bellum here: http://facerepo.com/app/faces/details/corv-bellum-solar-149482019ab
[Moto 360] Zhou86:
He has a dedicated thread on XDA too: http://xdaforums.com/moto-360/themes-apps/facer-corv-watch-t2914203
[Moto 360] gavin-phelan:
Any have this Black Silicone Rubber Watch Strap Band Deployment Buckle Waterproof 22mm https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00GI94ZV2/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_2RNwub0ZHVQ66

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[Moto 360] kloan:
Looks good, nice and wide. I tried to find one at a mall kiosk, but the guy working it was getting on my nerves, so I left without one.
[Moto 360] bustanut666:
Looks good. How much was it? Any idea what brand it is? U wouldn't happen to live in orange county CA would u. Lol.
[Moto 360] slaydog:
It was about $40. The guy just pulled out basically a brief case of 22 ml watch bands, and I picked the manliest one he had that matched the finish of the watch. I definitely had something different in mind, but was happy with this too. I didn't see any brand names on any of them.

Sorry, no where near Orange County, but it's kinda just the luck of the draw with what they will have anyway...
[Moto 360] Spartoi:
So are the Super Engineer II bands confirmed not crack the 360's backplate once you switch the ends?
[Moto 360] Dusty Rhodes:
Yep. I was the first one to use the SEII band and my watch hasn't cracked even with a little abuse in the form of my daughter grabbing the watch and using it to hoist herself up. I posted pictures of my watch so far in the "metal band" thread. The SEII band is the one to get.

http://xdaforums.com/moto-360/accessories/3rd-party-metal-bands-t2870075
[Moto 360] Spartoi:
So the band below is the correct one to buy, right?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005K4VK0U/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1R0NH145QNETW
[Moto 360] Dusty Rhodes:
Nope. You want the Super EngineerII

http://www.amazon.com/20mm-Engineer...32809&sr=1-1&keywords=super+engineer+ii+black
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
+1 I think I was the second to use the super engineer band 2, but first in stainless steel lol. Dusty reminded me of swapping the ends like he did.

I am sporting the custom made band currently, but it's easy to swap out.
[Moto 360] OstrichSak:
$86? Pass.
[Moto 360] bob_loblaw_:
Anyone see this link in the moto press release. Images of their upcoming bands:

https://drive.google.com/?tab=mo&authuser=0&pli=1#folders/0B8Kpi4PsQvSQVFBDRk1LOHA4ZGs
[Moto 360] OstrichSak:
I like those. The silicon straps towards the end look beefy. Still no black metal bracelet though which is what I really want. I was stoked to know that the Pebble one was a direct fit and was literally placing my order for one as the word started coming out that it could crack the back of the watch which caused me to hold off. I'm not a fan of leather watch bands as I'd like to use my watch a lot more when I'm working out and such but don't want to get my leather bands all sweat stained and stretched out. I'm tempted to go back to my SW2 just due to all this band BS so far.
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
I think mine was like 76 but yea a bit steep, but the band is quality and solid. No risk in damaging anything on the Moto, but hey each his own. It was an excuse for me to get one because I always wanted a SEII and I have a few other watches that can use it, so it was a win win for me. lol
[Moto 360] RekiOneR:
I've moved this post to a 3rd party Silicone bands thread in the moto 360 accessories section:

http://xdaforums.com/moto-360/accessories/3rd-party-silicone-bands-t2935020

Hope that it's not in a wrong way and done according to the XDA rules
[Moto 360] OstrichSak:
I just ordered this bracelet. Do I need any details for installation? Will the pins that come out of the leather band fit fine? Will the modifications I need to do be immediately obvious when I have the two of them side by side? Any additional details you can give me to expedite the swap for me? Thanks for the information. I wanted to throw a Pebble metal bracelet on this watch but don't want a cracked back so it seems like this is a good option pretty close to what I want with a different lug link that should clear the back to prevent any cracking issues.
[Moto 360] NWKENT:
The original spring pins you will (REUSE)..the modification will be obvious, you'll have to notch out the new band, the last link (the link with the spring pin)..a Dremel tool will work best, but if not available, a small three point file, and a small round file, with patients will work, to notch the end links..

** I have seen at least one (1) post where someone "dremeled" cut out the part of the watch that makes the notch be in the band in the first place, but I struggle with taking a Dremel tool to my new 360, so notching out the metal or silicone band makes more sense to me..just me thow..

** I did also order the silicone type black band, but it has the "shiny" buckles, and just don't look quite right to me, on the blacked out 360, the black metal band with the black claps (to me) look much more fitting (better) to the blacked out theme..

Just make the new band end link notch, match the original (leather) band end notch..it'll be obvious what you'll need to notch..

Once completed.. The new metal band will clear the backplate with plenty of clearance, not to place pressure on the rounded part of the backplate..it will be obvious, why the original leather (and others) band cause the backplate to crack..

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[Moto 360] OstrichSak:
Will do. Thanks for the reply.
[Moto 360] NWKENT:
Just as a note..the silicone band will also cause a (cracked) backplate, a user with small wrist, because it to will turn down to quickly, to follow the conture of the smaller wrist, applying pressure to the "rounded" part of the backplate, I would suggest keeping away from any plyable band that turns down (immediately) from the spring pins..there needs to be clearance from the backplate, before the band turns down to follow the wrist conture..

I hope my "southern English" is understandable.. lol

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[Moto 360] OstrichSak:
Makes perfect sense to me. I've got rather large wrists so I'm not even sure that the Pebble band would have been an issue for me but if there's a band I can add that will ensure it doesn't happen (like the one that will be here in a day or two) then I just feel better doing that. I would like a black silicon one for when I work out but for now I'll just use this one and be happy.
[Moto 360] Zhou86:
Makes sense to me too. Unfortunately my wrists are relatively small, and the Pebble Band after installing is pressing the plastic backplate as it "wraps" my wrist (creating gaps top and bottom at the turn), so I am sending it to modify (thinning of the first links), hoping it will be about to make "sharp turns" and not contacting the backplate.
[Moto 360] gpmg762:
I have small wrist, took off 4 links from pebble steel band and dremel off as much i can on first link. Hope that will prevent cracks.
[Moto 360] NWKENT:
Good for you..seems to have probably helped your situation, hold the watch itself between your first finger and thumb, let the band droop straight down, if the band doesn't hit the rounded part of the backplate, your watch backplate should keep free of cracks, if the band hits the rounded part of the backplate, then more clearance is needed, or (consider) a band replacement (another MFG)..

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[Moto 360] gpmg762:
Good advice.:good:
[Moto 360] MC FLMJ1G:
The new metal bands are in a way that the back WILL NOT be cracked! It truly feels premium vs the leather bands.

Looks very nice and feels great! Only issue is that the factory size for the length of the band is too small for me. They do include extra to add and make it a lil bigger. I have no idea how to extend the band and may have to take to a jeweler.
[Moto 360] manalf:
Im with you, looked all over the placw and cant figure out how to resize it. No arrows to show what side to pull the pins out. Anyone have any success on the moto metal bands?
[Moto 360] bustanut666:
So u guys actually have the metal bands already? Can't seem to find it any where.
[Moto 360] manalf:
Yeh, ordered it the day of sale on motos website, arrived today but doesnt fit, so it's collecting dust until i can get the additional links in that it came with.
[Moto 360] bustanut666:
Snap some pics. I wanna see how band is. Also someone might know how to fix length from pics.
[Moto 360] MC FLMJ1G:
Jeweler hooked me up. Not as hard as we think. Gentleman simply used a machined that pushed the pins out.

G+ Account - HIGHLY RECOMMEND. Feels smoother than the first one I bought, leather band.

https://plus.google.com/101475142022324206111/posts/87WqENNLcHg
[Moto 360] charesa39:
WOW! So much WANT! But I'm waiting until Best Buy gets them in stock so I can use a 10% off mover's coupon that I have. Don't know how much longer I can hold out!
[Moto 360] bustanut666:
That's nice. Darn. I might have to get this even though my ritche band I just got for 10 bucks is awesome. Way better than pebble.
[Moto 360] MC FLMJ1G:
I am glad I got this one. Going over seas and selling my other one ASAP. I cannot even wear the other one anymore. That extra mm makes a difference. The metal is premium. The watch itself feels MUCH smoother than before. I do not know if there is a revision but this feels like a finished model.

The jeweler has a Samsung S and was really liking this one.
[Moto 360] manalf:
Photos here -> https://plus.google.com/116967761050180088430/posts/hSNhtThCBoq I got the dark metal version.
[Moto 360] bustanut666:
From looks of it. Like a standard watch where u just get a small screwdriver and push out the pins.

Does the pin inside the link have a slit in it on one side? If so. Push from the other end. Not the side with the slit.
[Moto 360] manalf:
Yea, looks that way.. I was trying and almost bent the small screw driver I was using. I'll post back if I get a pin to pop.
[Moto 360] bustanut666:
seems like it has a plastic spacer from looks of it??
[Moto 360] MC FLMJ1G:
I had the black face before. It is nice but I like the steel face better. Plus there are many more bands for the steel color.

The jeweler used some kind of tool that pushed the pins out. I guess you can use a really tiny tool to push the pins out. I did not see any plastic. This is a high quality product.
[Moto 360] pretiger:
Here is what I got
[Moto 360] bustanut666:
So there is no plastic connector that connects the band to the watch? From pics, seems like there is a black piece in between. But pics are kinda bad.
[Moto 360] romracer:
There is a black connector piece on the official metal Moto 360 bands. But its a metal piece, not plastic. I'd take pics but it wouldn't really tell you if its plastic or metal in them.
[Moto 360] manalf:
Went to two jewelers today to have additional links added on the official black metal band from moto & both places couldn't get the pins to pop out - one place said for me to come back when their repair man is in on Mondays. So, needless to say it isn't easy popping the pins on the official band to expand the size.
[Moto 360] gtg465x:
Wait, what? Is that the Horween Cognac strap from Motorola on the left? I haven't seen any real pictures of it outside of the website listing. If so, mind posting more pics?
[Moto 360] welshdragon:
Here is mine

http://thestrapshop.co.uk/pages/mwb/stainPop/GPR%20Watch%20Bracelet.htm

Google is your friend and so was a Dremel.

A little grind with the Dremel and it fitted like a glove. (not O.J. Simpson's glove mind)
[Moto 360] pretiger:
[IMG="moto360 black bracelet"]http://www.tiger-concept.com/moto360/DSC_0463.JPG[/IMG]

[IMG="moto360 black bracelet"]http://www.tiger-concept.com/moto360/DSC_0441.JPG[/IMG]

[IMG="moto360 black bracelet"]http://www.tiger-concept.com/moto360/DSC_0462.JPG[/IMG]

DIY a ukrainian steel bracelet for my moto 360 which I think it look almost the same as the original moto steel bracelet design.
[Moto 360] jairfranz:
26mm watch strap

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[Moto 360] tedya:
The pins are uni-directional and the pins have sleeves so don't lose those when you push out the pins.

---------- Post added at 06:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:30 PM ----------

Didn't yours come with five additional links? Or is it still too small after adding those? Mine came with additional links. It was hard to see where they were stashed in the box.

---------- Post added at 06:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:32 PM ----------

Yes, the pins are hard to push out. Very hard as a matter of fact. The pins have friction spacers that keep them from "falling" out if you will. DO NOT let the jeweler, or 16year old kid at the watch store, try and push out the pins with an eyeleteer and hammer. It is best to use the pin tool that, as you screw together, pushes the pin out. I happen to have a complete set of watch repair tools so I did this all myself. If you are going to swap out band/bracelets, I would recommend getting your own set of watch tools.

BTW, the pieces that receive the metal band to the watch are indeed plastic and not metal.
[Moto 360] ktraub:
Tedya,

How do you tell which side to push the pins from?

Thanks in advance for your help.

-Kev
[Moto 360] tedya:
Kev, the pins are unidirectional so it doesn't matter from which side you push the pins out. They are not the cotter pins with "slits" that some have mentioned. Just remember to be sure an not lose the sleeve/tube when the bracelet comes apart. It sits in the center link. The pins are difficult to remove because some of the black paint or anodizing gets into the holes and gums it up. The pins that I have removed all had black friction marks on them. So I ended up taking out all of the pins and cleaning them. This metal bracelet may be nice but it is not the highest of quality.
[Moto 360] 640k:
not a fan of the color but love the width/thickness.
[Moto 360] TonyTurboII:
Anyone have photos of a silver band on a black 360?
[Moto 360] manalf:
Out of curiosity, what tools worked? Been pokong around on amazon but not sure which ones to get.
[Moto 360] tedya:
The tool that I used to push out the stubborn pins was this:

http://www.amazon.com/Paylak-TSLK3-...d=1416593585&sr=8-5&keywords=watch+pin+pusher

It wasn't this exact one but almost the same. Some of the pins are impossible to push out by hand.
[Moto 360] manalf:
Perfect. Will arrive tomorrow I'll report back if it works. Tired of jewelers hammering the watch, they already scuffed up one of the links.
[Moto 360] charesa39:
This is why I would be hesitant about taking it to a jeweler to have links added/removed if necessary. Especially, since the posts I've read indicate they're difficult to remove. I will be picking up my metal band 360 tomorrow. Please do let us know how well that tool works. I'll probably order one as well if it works out for you.
[Moto 360] tedya:
This tool will push the pin out roughly 1/4 to 1/3 inch. Then just use some pliers to pull it from the other side. Remember though, not to lose the sleeve in the middle. I know I keep saying that but you will thank me when you see it fall out when the bracelet comes apart.

Also, when you use this tool, choose a pin that already a bit recessed in the hole so you can better line up the pusher with the hole. Know what I mean?
[Moto 360] manalf:
Got the tool this afternoon (the amazon linked one). Worked really well, there is 1 pin on the watch that refuses to come out, so if you're having a hard time with pliers taking it out, try another. Got the links added on, little bit of bending of the pins but they bend back. Make sure you keep the little sleeves that go in the middle of the watchband, without them the pins just fall through.

Took about 30 min to get it all set, tools used:

Watch tool from amazon

Needle Nose Pliers

Hammer (to tap the pins back in).
[Moto 360] charesa39:
Sweet! Thanks for the feedback. I picked mine up yesterday, and I guess I just got lucky because it's the same exact size as my current watch. So no need to adjust it. But thanks again!
[Moto 360] funkydude101:
I did actually make an effort to search here if anyone has bought the "eBay" chinese stainless steel band, but can't believe NO ONE has mentioned it.... It's ALL over eBay and Aliexpress.

Anyway I've ordered one of these... I am concerned about this cracking back issue...so I may dremel the BAND (not the watch) if I feel it will be hitting the plastic back at all during regular use.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400814163023?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
[Moto 360] bustanut666:
U will have to cut band. It's called the ritche band on amazon. Works good.
[Moto 360] funkydude101:
Well I really hope the seller is selling a slightly modified version for the Moto 360 since they are claiming it is compatible. Otherwise negative feedback for them! I don't doubt my ability to mod the band to fit but I feel like I shouldn't have to do that if they are listing it for the Moto 360 with pictures of it ON the Moto 360.

Also I noticed the very top image has a different style then the other images below. The center links are different.
[Moto 360] OstrichSak:
That watch band looks identical to the band that's sold on Amazon that has been posted here already (in black) with pictures and details on modification. FWIW, the same band in both black or silver is available for ~$16 w/free 2-day shipping if you have a Prime account. That's what I got and had it a couple of days later. Better buyer protection from Amazon too.
[Moto 360] funkydude101:
True. Unfortunately Amazon(.ca for me) doesn't have it! :(

Some of the eBay ones I've seen listed have varying pictures, including one that looks like it has a modified notch already. I assume this isn't actually PART of the band, but I have no clue. I just got my moto 360 yesterday.
[Moto 360] OstrichSak:
That picture makes it look like it's notched for the 360 already which wasn't difficult but certainly saves you a step.