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[Moto 360] Bob Smith42:
Right! [MENTION=3996263]knoxploration[/MENTION], and thanks for describing your experiences.

I tried going to Motorola site three times a couple hours apart. Each time was a different experience. Stock varied, quantity in cart varied, available color varied. LOL

In my opinion, BB is a great option - assuming we could *exchange* someday if there are problems. Not sure about BB exchange program when there is no stock?

I was one of the lucky few, walked into BB and asked, waited 20 minutes for discussion & searching by sales, and got a Gray one. Within seconds of my purchase someone walked up asking for another - but I got the only one.

Since Motorola is offering *something* I figured to post the links. Hope it helps.

Good luck.

Ref your "Google haven't had stock in ages" comment:

Google Play gave me one of those pop-up browser surveys - so I blasted them with something like: "Maybe get something IN STOCK ever!" with a few other expletives. LOL
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
Unfortunately, they're not offering something. When you try to finalize the order, it's refused, no matter that it says stock is available both before and after trying to place the order.

Clearly, they don't actually have any stock.
[Moto 360] Bob Smith42:
Yeah. Same thing happened here in NC during ChromeCast rollout.

Ten got stolen from a nearby BB and stock showed as ten for weeks. People were plenty upset driving there for weeks and nothing found.

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Confirmed same result as you on Motorola site:

Moto 360 Stone Leather

Color: Natural

Model: 00583NARTL

Availability: In-Stock Oct 6, 2014

After putting in Name, Address, Credit Card, etc... there is NO STOCK until some guesstimate future date.
[Moto 360] allan1313:
My order went trough a few hours ago. It said I should have it September 30 on my confirmation email.
[Moto 360] Do_Whut_Now:
Lucky few & probable cause of shortage explained.

Costa Mesa, CA Best Buy. I was one of the lucky ones that walked in and found ONE gray band version sitting behind a locked glass cabinet next to the Moto 360 display. It was one of those "STRUCK GOLD!" type moments that's so few & far between. At any rate, the rep I spoke to said that there may have been a recall due to so many folks facing that immediate mandatory firmware update upon first activating the watch. There appears to be some folks with botched updates due to the fact that it requires at least 80% battery charge, which obviously the watch did not out of the box. Well, I was one of those owners with the botched update but was able to resolve it by getting solutions from XDA (THANKS!). :D

So I'm guessing to improve the overall initial experience, and not have users go through what I've gone through, Motorola is "delaying" some or ALL shipments so that they can burn the new firmware onto the watch before it gets to consumers hands. I wouldn't want folks who aren't too "techie" to have to go through buyer's remorse.

What say you? Is this probable cause for the shortage? :confused:
[Moto 360] TabGuy:
What is the solution for the botched update?
[Moto 360] Do_Whut_Now:
Holding down the button, choose "reset device", turn the phone off, and let the watch sit on the charger for about 2 hours. Based on my experience, within that 2 hours the watch will turn on by itself at around 20 or 25% charge. Just turn the screen off and let it charge all the way to 100%. Then do the update. The watch has been flawless ever since.
[Moto 360] contentryder:
preordered the m360 last week and called Best Buy today to see if any are in stock but nope. made an order on motorola.com at 1PM but delivery date is scheduled for oct. 6. my 2 cents.
[Moto 360] bigdave79:
WHAT? When did you get it. I was at that very store last week as the website showed them as having one in stock but they repeatedly told me it was the display model that was showing up! Muppets.
[Moto 360] Cyphir:
My local Best Buy in Bevercreek OH is showing in stock, but it seems it is not mine. I have a preorder. I just called in and they can't even tell me where I am on the preorder list, and haven't even processed the truck yet. Wish they would hurry up so I can know if it is my watch on the truck or not.
[Moto 360] Do_Whut_Now:
I feel your pain, man. Been thru it myself. The key is to not even talk to these guys to see if they have it. Just walk on in and look in that locked glass case. Just peer in there and look for the only rounded box in the lot (mine was buried deep in there). Then bug the crap out of a rep to open the case, which is exactly what I did. The box was definitely placed in a way so that ABSOLUTELY NO ONE can see it when walking by. It was piled with a bunch of Samsung's smart watches. I wish you luck though! Perseverance is key.
[Moto 360] v3ngence:
Amoungst all the price gouging on ebay and craigslist, I managed to find an honest seller and scooped one up for $250! (the local Best Buy is perpetu-out)
[Moto 360] LBCaptivate:
I order one online with Best Buy on the 11th and got it today. I ordered another one from BB on Sunday and it will arrive Thursday. I just got lucjy both time. I just kept checking there site for availability. I chose standard shipping for both. I got the first one ordered around 8 am and the 2nd one around 11 am. Within about 10 minutes of placing each order they sold out. I was not sure what color to get so I got both. One will go back to BB or I will sell it to someone at work.
[Moto 360] bigdave79:
That's what I did. I had the guy open the glass case and we took everything out and it wasn't there. I think I must have got there too late or a little too early before they had a chance to take it out of their delivery boxes. Anyway, I just got an email that the one I ordered from Google play just got shipped. Would have preferred buying from Best Buy though as returning it would be much easier if there's a problem.
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
And you know why it's placed like that? Because a Best Buy employee is trying to reserve it for himself, and probably lying to customers all day long about availability.
[Moto 360] Mr Ian B:
They are in store ready for pick up in the Austin, Round Rock, Killeen, Cedar Park Texas area.

Ian. B
[Moto 360] Ozark_8125:
Walked into BB today, walked up to the guy on the counter, and voila, the one and only grey band. Mine! :cool:

He said they got TWO for the first day and 5 yesterday. I think they had 1 or 2 black left.
[Moto 360] Cr4z33:
Can't you people just try to buy/pre-order the 360 from Amazon to avoid all that nightmare at BB?

Honestly I wouldn't accept all what is happening.

I live in Italy and although it's gonna be available in some big physical stores I preferred to pre-order it at Amazon.

IMO Amazon > Rest of the World! :D

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1
[Moto 360] TheJesus:
For anyone trying to pre-order at Best Buy, you need to tell them to use BEAST and usually through a mobile department computer. You might have to ask a few of them as it's their older back system, so most aren't familiar with it. Good luck!
[Moto 360] macawmatt:
Our local BB had several in stock when we called, wouldn't give us numbers over the phone, only more then a few. We called right when they opened.

Get there over an hour later, they had already sold four on Sunday morning. I got mine (silver model) and left to get some lunch. On the way to the restaurant, realized that mine was either a return, or one they opened in the store to look at. Problem with option B, they have floor models on display. Luckily they still had another, brand new, unmolested one.

When we stopped by on Friday to look at them, one of the sales guys said that they were selling them as fast as they could get them.
[Moto 360] airypi:
Looked at the local Best Buy, they were completely out. :(
[Moto 360] AndrewAmazed:
They aren't available on Amazon haha.

The only options are the Play Store, Motorola, or Best Buy.
[Moto 360] asdtech153:
Hey [MENTION=4453319]Cyphir[/MENTION], we've got 2 black in stock right now
[Moto 360] Cyphir:
Thanks, sadly I preordered the silver bezel. Gonna have to wait till they come in
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
Best Buy in Knoxville, TN showing as in-stock again.

Best Buy in Knoxville, TN not actually in stock, again.

I'm starting to think it's negative year at Best Buy: If they say it's in stock the one thing you can guarantee is that it's not.
[Moto 360] Bob Smith42:
What color are you looking for?
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
Black.
[Moto 360] contentryder:
Black is available on Bestbuy.com right now! Go order! Will come Friday if you choose expedited delivery! (mine is) http://www.nowinstock.net/electronics/smartwatches/motorola/
[Moto 360] aimfire72:
Anyone do a pre-order in store? I did last Friday, guy promised I'd have within 1-3 days... that didn't happen, still waiting. How long have people had to wait?
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
It showed not in stock at around the time of your message for me.
[Moto 360] DroidDavi:
So 2 bestbuys in vegas say there in stock but when i call they say they dont have them. Im not sure if i should call bs or maybe there system is just trash
[Moto 360] TheJesus:
Also, to add to my previous post. If you want to get past the "Do you have the Moto 360?" "Nope" convo that will happen because they won't actually check, just ask them directly to check a SKU in RSS and then give them the one you want to know about. If they recognize the number before searching, you'll know they've already checked it that day. I've only had one actually recognize the number.
[Moto 360] chino0131:
Best Buy in Stafford VA has three in stock. Checking out with mine now. If you call a store don't ask if the Moto 360 is in stock. Try giving the sku. Also, they didnt have them in the set up 360 display area. They kept them in the locked mobile area. Guy said Manassas store had 2 in stock still, and Fredericksburg has 2. His opinion....further away from a big City the more likely it is they may be in stock. Had to drive further south from DC but it was worth it.
[Moto 360] smalltownbird:
I live in Newport news and saw Fredericksburg had some in stock. I was really tempted to drive 2 hours and get one
[Moto 360] sshark:
TL;DR

Serious issues with Best Buy inventory. Casually walked in BB with almost no hope of finding one and got Black. BB West Oaks (Houston) has two silver left.

Best Buy inventory is obviously not getting updated. I casually walked in only to be told that only one SILVER is in stock.

Second guy started digging through a shopping card (!) which had many many wearables dumped in. We literally started digging through the cart ..and found 2 SILVERS and 1 BLACK. I took the black one!!

Initial impression is that ..it doesn't feel like a smartwatch. I definitely yearn for some speed. Battery is taking a toll as I use it. Down from 100% at 4pm to 53% at 8pm...received few texts, alerts and 35 mins of RunKeeper.

Not sure whether I will keep this or not! Wait and watch ...begins.
[Moto 360] aimfire72:
Yeah after checking the BB inventory several times a day for the past week, I've gotten very good at interpreting it. Just about every store in my area that shows stock, are indeed in stock. Problem is, they're all for pre-orders! From my several visits to many different stores plus what I'm seeing on the site, it looks like all the BB's in my area only got ONE shipment this week of 1-4 watches each. And of course, they're already claimed for pre-orders. I actually did a pre-order last week - guy promised me within 3 days. Been 8 days and nothing!
[Moto 360] aviatordoc:
Just keep checking BB website for store close to you. Just found one in my local store ths AM, called and had them put one away in my name, drove over and picked it up. spent under 5 min at store.
[Moto 360] griff22usmc:
Best Buy in Charlotte NC has 4 of them. I waited for the truck to come in yesterday... Left my number. Went in today and they had 4 in Stock, one of which was mine I asked to hold. There are a few stores with 30 miles who have them.
[Moto 360] Bob Smith42:
Hey [MENTION=3996263]knoxploration[/MENTION] I just stopped by BB to return the pebble steel band. I have the gray Moto 360 and I am sticking with the original leather strap.

I checked stock on Moto 360 and they had three black in stock at Crabtree BB in Raleigh, NC. I could have bought all three, they pulled them off the truck for me so my timing was lucky, but instead I just got one. It is still in the BB sealed bag, with receipt dated 09/19/2014 14:14.

If you want it, and we can figure out a way to pay at cost, please DM me. I can put it and receipt in a box and ship UPS or Fedex or USPS today.

If not, then good luck on finding one at your BB.
[Moto 360] aimfire72:
Went to a BB Mobile that showed in stock on the web site. Figured no one goes there, might have a chance. Got there and was first told no, they sold it this morning, then changed to "an hour ago". Yeah right. Always that story. So I asked her to look up which stores did have stock, she gave me one that had 3 and was fairly close by.

I called to verify and ask to hold it for me. Girl on phone tells me no, they don't actually have any. Told her I was just in a store 5 min ago and it showed they had stock. She told me no again, that the other store's computer must be "slow"... Uh, OK.

Went back home and looked again a couple of hours later. That store was showing stock. Called again, got a different girl and guess what? Sure enough, they had some stock. Asked her to put aside for me and she agreed. So I picked it up, thanked her in person for actually taking time to look and save for me.

BB employees... mostly a lot of bad, lazy, and/or not so bright ones... but every now and then you run across a great one that's happy to help you out.
[Moto 360] HankB:
Now that I've ordered one from Moto (delivery date October 6) the local BBs seem to have them coming out of their ears. :(
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
Thanks, I ended up getting an order in with Moto after much hassle, with a ridiculous three-week wait (that they don't tell you about until they have your CC details, they just say "In Stock".) So I ordered there just so I wouldn't have to deal with the grief any more.

My understanding is that it's a pain in the butt getting Moto to cancel an order after the first two hours, so I'll just wait it out... Thanks again, though!
[Moto 360] StEVO_M:
Picked mine up Friday night 9/19 at Best Buy in Gainseville. Not sure where you live in N VA, but they might still have one.
[Moto 360] moinsheriff:
Walked into a best buy store yesterday at Tysons Corner, VA and one employee told me they dont have it in stock. Asked a different employee and he said they had only one in stock, the black one. Long story short, i picked one up. Surprising as i thought best buys were sold out
[Moto 360] aimfire72:
That's what you have to do, ask different employees, always try one from a different dept. I went through the same crap when Chromecast first came out and they were flying off shelves. I strongly suspect the BB employees hold stuff for themselves, their friends, and/or buy to sell on CL and eBay.

I found it interesting that my store is perpetually out of stock on the silver ones, yet an employee there was proud to show his off to me. There should be like a 2-week wait time before BB employees are allowed to buy new items, but this is BB we're talking about, not exactly an upstanding organization.
[Moto 360] jeren17:
Heh! As a Best Buy employee I probably shouldn't tell you that I bought mine before the store even opened and no customers even got a chance to see it. I'm surprised employees are allowed to do stuff like that, but it's one of the few perks of being an underpaid/overworked retail employee.

Most stores get their trucks 2 or 3 days a week. From what I've noticed, stores have been getting shipments of 360's once a week and they've only been getting quantities of 2 (2 black, 2 silver). I'm guessing Motorola should start pushing out more than 4 per store per week soon.
[Moto 360] compuguy1088:
Online it looks like a lot of stores in NoVA have the black watches.
[Moto 360] gottahavit:
Picked up a black one last night. Last one in the Best Buy here in Vermont.
[Moto 360] uh60james:
Found one hidden in the back of the locked watch case at Best Buy last night. The website wasn't even giving the option to check store availability at that time.
[Moto 360] tlxxxsracer:
Picked up a black at BB in Altamonte Springs, FL. The website popped up showing in store to pick up now. I called, seems they hadn't gotten it quite off the truck. They held it for me a "store pickup".

I noticed I got more success getting information when asking for specific sku numbers. I'd suggest call the stores asking if a sku is in stock. Most checked other local stores too. Instead of asking if they had a motor 360,they would immediately say no sorry. Asking for sku they would look and tell me another store would have 1
[Moto 360] ffeingol:
I think I got the last silver one in SE Wisconsin. I called a different stores that said they had inventory on-line and finally found one that actually did. Now I just have to wait for it to charge so I can play :)
[Moto 360] KidJoe:
I really want Silver, but I can't find them so on Saturday, I picked up one of the last black ones.

Stopped into my local Best Buy yesterday on the way home from work... They checked inventory, had Zero. Checked other stores, Zero. They were going to order for me and said they could not, they were back ordered, and that I have to keep checking in.

Lastly the one person remembered a return from someone that "didn't like it." He was going to sell me as "Open box" and a discount. When he went to look for it, he found that unfortunately it was already put on the return truck.

I really wish I could find a silver! Only trying best buy as a purchase to put me over the "elite rewards member" threshold so we keep it another year. Otherwise I'd just try via Moto's web site or something.
[Moto 360] tlxxxsracer:
Same boat as you, wanting the silver one but ended up getting black as theyre more in stock. Worried about returning the 360 back to BB within the 14days and also probability of more stock coming in, therefore lowing the demand of the 360 being bought on CL And ebay

gonna see if someone local has a silver and willing to trade :)
[Moto 360] KidJoe:
Best Buy.com now has the GRAY LEATHER as "not available" for both shipping and instore.

I've seen reports of the Stone Gray, is Moto no longer selling the original Gray maybe?
[Moto 360] untalented893:
I think that's the case. I just ordered a stone leather from bestbuy.com. It's currently the only one in stock
[Moto 360] KidJoe:
as of 8:30am eastern today, Bestbuy.com now has 3 Moto 360's listed...

Black Leather 00418NARTL

Gray Leather 00419NARTL

Stone Leather 00583NARTL

I did order Stone because I wanted the silver face and will likely change the band anyway.

EDIT: Stone was ordered about 8:45am (eastern) today, I got an email from UPS My Choice that a package is shipping from BBY.COM/DC with a scheduled delivery date of Tomorrow! and estimated target of 1:30-5:30pm! I picked the FREE shipping, glad I didn't pay for expedited or anything.
[Moto 360] kmusk01:
I too just ordered from BestBuy.com They have the Stone Leather online only. Will be here Monday. Ended up getting the warranty as well. Figure if anything in 2 years it will be money towards a new wear device :)

Ken~
[Moto 360] al2x:
hey all, not sure if it's been posted already or not, but for some reason bby does not have an inventory tracker available for the new stone gray color.... but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. copy & paste this in your browser to see which local stores have them (I can verify, just picked one up a few hours ago via the accuracy of this tool). remember -- don't ever call in to stores, just go.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcat17006&type=page&skuId=9169039&searchpage=true&_requestid=30491
[Moto 360] KidJoe:
This morning (9:30am easter), the Gray Leather 00419NARTL is GONE from BB's web site.

The Black and Stone remain but are out of stock, not available for store pickup, and not available to order on line.
[Moto 360] ryngds:
Stone Grey Back in stock

The Stone Grey Moto 360 is back in stock online. 9/26 5:30 PM EST
[Moto 360] tlxxxsracer:
Went to best buy in Orlando to return my black. They had 3 stone leather watches in stock to exchange mine for :)
[Moto 360] daoist:
Not sure. I had 3 available (sioux city, IA, moline, IL, lincoln, NE), briefly I had 4, now I have 3 again, Lincoln, NE must have sold out, but now Council Bluffs, IA shows in-stock.

These have to be popping up as they unload their trucks or something.

edit: St. Joseph, MO and Tiffany Springs, MO. just popped up for me too.
[Moto 360] jerflash:
Sold out online as of now... Glad I got my order in!

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Be nice to try for a little while. If the battery life is no good then I will bring it back for the LG G watch r or Asus zen... Asus zen has gps built in!
[Moto 360] compuguy1088:
In store shipping is gone as well....
[Moto 360] fullmetal2k:
All my local stores now says unavailable [emoji24] [emoji22]
[Moto 360] spinedoc:
Wow, looks like even BB pick up/shipping is sold out, everything in NJ/NY showing as "unavailable". I got in my order for a silver one to be delivered 9/9 from BB just in time it seems.
[Moto 360] L_E_O:
This is BS... come on Moto!
[Moto 360] jerflash:
Nice dude. I went with the black though that silver with gray looks really nice!
[Moto 360] fullmetal2k:
Lucky, I got greedy and wanted to wait till my local bb from my job had it to pick it up at lunch and didn't bother with the one that had it which was around my house
[Moto 360] spinedoc:
Does the silver one come with a grey watch band?!?!? The BB pictures show it as a black watch band. Honestly I think I will probably like the grey band, but it's tough without seeing it in person.
[Moto 360] Dusty Rhodes:
Uh oh... It shows as sold out and unavailable on Best Buy's website, AND ALSO SOLD OUT on the Google Play Store.

Looks like the only place to get one now is directly from Moto.
[Moto 360] daoist:
My local best buys tell me over the phone that the release time is 12pm, so maybe they're holding out on us.
[Moto 360] compuguy1088:
12 pm what time zone? Its almost 1pm on the east coast.
[Moto 360] daoist:
Sorry, central. 10 minutes from now.
[Moto 360] EVOme:
Sold out online now.
[Moto 360] jerflash:
Ya it's a special edition thing. Suede gray band.
[Moto 360] spinedoc:
Cool, I think I will like that. The silver on black was a bit too jarring IMO. BB needs to change its pics though, every single pic shows silver on black leather.
[Moto 360] daoist:
Oh man, guy wouldn't hold one for me, I said I'd buy it over the phone, and someone got the last one on his way to the shelf. D'oh!
[Moto 360] compuguy1088:
Looks like best buys in store stock is in flux, it is now saying ship to store...but you cannot add it to cart.
[Moto 360] brucipher:
Just picked my Black Moto360 up from my Best Buy in Lancaster, PA! The girl seemed perplexed, because as of 45 mins ago when I picked it up they still couldn't find it in their inventory system, and she was confused as to how I even ordered it.

Charging as we speak...wouldn't let me really do anything until I changed it (except pair it with my phone).
[Moto 360] BruKnowsBest:
It's officially up on Google Play but no inventory :crying::crying::crying:
[Moto 360] mejdam:
out here in the inlanda empire in california, called 5 stores and drove to the two closets and they said none arrived and to wait till monday
[Moto 360] slaydog:
My Best Buy says ship to store in 3-5 days. I think I'll keep checking until they get it in Stock, and in the meantime I'll start watching for the reviews from you lucky ones...
[Moto 360] philalford:
Sept 14 in stores?

http://corporate.bestbuy.com/its-here-motorola-launches-moto-360-and-you-can-get-it-at-best-buy-now/

Not too optimistic about this considering it's already sold out everywhere
[Moto 360] compuguy1088:
Says the same thing here, have you tried to add it to cart? Errors out on my end.