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[Moto G General] eemgee:
If i remember right we started getting kit Kat a matter of days after some nexus devices. I think motto x got it before the older nexuses.:confused:
[Moto G General] TheFixItMan:
Not for Motorola but there is for the latest nexus phones - moto g should follow shortly after with the link between Motorola & Google

Iv posted some details

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56290476&postcount=274
[Moto G General] AgentChaos:
Well motorola Support told me they are soak testing Lollipop update already so it make sense for them to update sometime next week. most likely Wednesday or Friday. Thats when I usually got the updates
[Moto G General] aqswde123:
Finally got the 4.4.4 for xt1032 us global some 4 months later than the rest of the world. It's just a 10mb package(previously on 4.4.3) and they could have released it anytime they want. The only explination I have for the sudden love is to standardise all the phones for the upcoming L package.

Just my theory.
[Moto G General] MarckozZ:
10mb size?? It seems like a joke.. but your theory seems legit.
[Moto G General] aqswde123:
Didn't check the exact size but...but the package in this thread is 21mb.

http://xdaforums.com/moto-g/general/ota-xt1032-4-4-4-retail-t2924776
[Moto G General] AgentChaos:
Actually its 21mb not 10, its to patch the security fix that was found in 4.4.3, that is all. but they are getting ready for the Lollipop update.

Changelog - Version: 210.12.61

This release includes accuracy improvements to the power profile, several stability, framework and security fixes including update to OpenSSL.
[Moto G General] burak144:
I've converted my device to gpe and while updating saw this "untill 4 november via wifi only" can this be a signal for the update date? ?
[Moto G General] MarckozZ:
NO. I've converted mi device to GPe two weeks ago and it said "until 20 october" or so... That means that the update will remain in your device until 4 november. Passed that date, you'll have to download .the OTA again! It doesnt mean that 5.0 comes on 4 Nov! :silly:
[Moto G General] burak144:
ohh ?
[Moto G General] vivekj:
I know that I need to be in stock rom and stock recovery while upgrading to lollipop. Do I need to unroot my phone ? I think it is unnecessary. And post upgrade, can I flash the cwm/twrp recovery again or that need to be modified for lollipop ?
[Moto G General] burak144:
you have to unroot your phone to update. and you can't flash cwm or twrp untill lollipop version of them released.
[Moto G General] eemgee:
No you don't have to unroot, at least you didn't for previous updates.
[Moto G General] burak144:
previous updates was kitkat updates but this is lollipop update and root method will be diffrent for it so root could break update I think.
[Moto G General] MarckozZ:
When Lollipop OTA comes, I'd suggest you to backup everything and restore stock firmware to have a very clean start with 5.0... So then you'll be sure that nothing will mess up the OTA update, like root or anything..

Thats just my opinion.. You can do whatever you want! :silly:
[Moto G General] eddydc1:
Ok, so does GPE devices get it tomorrow?
[Moto G General] MarckozZ:
Only Nexus 5, 7 and possibly 10 get it tomorrow. GPe devices maybe on the next two weeks.. Incredibly, the day is comming!!! :highfive:
[Moto G General] EzSqueezeCheese:
So here we are. The day of the supposed 5.0 release for nexus devices. Quick! Grab your tablets!
[Moto G General] AgentChaos:
The 5.0 factory image for nexus devices will be here

https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

Although from what I was told by Motorola support is that Motorola already has the final code of Lollipop and that they are already doing Lollipop soak tests. So it shouldnt be long now.
[Moto G General] MarckozZ:
Wish I had a Nexus 7 2013.... :crying:

Sweet.. If thats true, maybe they already have some Lollipop firmware for Moto G and all the Moto brand... Can't wait!! Hope to see that OTA update right now....

There are two posibilities.. Or they update all devices quicker than they did with Kk to give us a surprise, or they will take more time simce they have lot more devices right now to give support to.
[Moto G General] dethrat:
Captain obvious
[Moto G General] MarckozZ:
To the rescue
[Moto G General] vkk178:
Yey I got the Lolliop update.... Awesome :angel:

Damn I'm still sleeping.. Must be in my dreams
[Moto G General] Eurofighter_ty:
Now let's wait :)
[Moto G General] vkk178:
Battery drain bug in L .Expect delays in weeks or months till this is sorted .
[Moto G General] ficki yahya:
Be patients :)
[Moto G General] DevGupta12:
Its Fixed :D
[Moto G General] Ogatron:
Next version of Android L with fixes for wifi will be released on 12 november for nexus :'(
[Moto G General] dannyfritz:
My friend's Moto X 2014 is getting an OTA for a 5.0 preview build right now. He signed up for the feedback program so he is getting an early build of L. Don't know what Motorola's test practices are for their phone line, but maybe we'll see a test build pop up soon too.

http://www.android.gs/moto-x-2014-android-5-0-lollipop-firmware-leaked-brings-updated-camera-app/

https://forums.motorola.com/posts/77d4221775
[Moto G General] MarckozZ:
Im signing in right now.. If you have news on some early build of L for this device let us know man! :highfive:

I've signed now, Hope to receive an invitation to test early builds of Lollipop! that'd be great!
[Moto G General] Bonniemac:
Hey, just wanted to say thanks for the advice! T9 is a must for me, i dont understand why moto g wouldbt have it stock. Also, Im using the xda messenger apk, the newest one, i like it but we need one that can send sms from strictly wifi. Some say it can be integrated with hangouts ? Anyone suggest a good one thats not a google sms ? I'm actually buying a new phone this weekend as I broke the glass ! Like Id stated earlier, sony were my favorite and moto G is my first non-sony, I like it so much may just get it again. Or the L. I loved my sony u a long time ago but i think its just because of the pretty light at the bottom lol ya girlie lol

Also, Ive always wanted the Sony walkman phone as well but its so out dated now. Does anyone have any suggestions on another phone around the same price as the G and same quality? Rrrr maybe I will stick with moto phones. An sony if the cone out with a good one again. Samsung is my least favorite. LG, Ive nvr used. Whats everyone think of the LG's? Lol Sorry for the novel, just putting off college psych exam online ha ha ok thanks everyone! Ttyl.
[Moto G General] lost101:
Based on the Moto X Android 5.0 OTA Update:
[Moto G General] Pyr0_Bl4de:
Can you provide the link for soak test
[Moto G General] droider007:
So if i flash back stock rom with stock recovery and non-root....ota will work??
[Moto G General] DustArma:
So flashing the stock system images through fastboot should do the trick.
[Moto G General] lost101:
Alternatively, there are 'Untouched' ROMs available here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=54969242

XT1032 and XT1034 Retail US 4.4.4 ROMs will be added soon.
[Moto G General] AgentChaos:
They have been added. You can download them here

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56579534&postcount=424
[Moto G General] lost101:
Those are fastboot images. I still have to create ROM zips that are Custom Recovery flashable.
[Moto G General] vivekj:
I asked in motorola forums regarding rooted device update. So here was the reply

"An OTA will only install on the stock system. No root, no unlocked bootloader, no missing files, no extra files, nothing frozen. 100% stock."

No unlock bootloader :confused:
[Moto G General] MarckozZ:
WTF? So, if that is true, we are doomed... Anyway if thats correct, we will try to find out how to flash Lollipop image once available :p
[Moto G General] eemgee:
Hmmm i don't think that's right, i hope it's not right. I only unlocked my bootloader recently incase it wouldn't be unlockable after lollipop:(
[Moto G General] MarckozZ:
Right, I did that just in case too! If thats true, we are in hell... But that info came from a comment on Motorola forums provided for some average user, maybe that user is wrong and wanted to write whatever he or she wants... I'd worry if that info came from a Motorola dev or an official announcement.. But it was just a comment.. Please see here and see it with your own eyes. :good: Easy, don't worry too much guys!
[Moto G General] ==vj==:
I also heard the same from my friend regarding UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER.

Hope following command will do the needful.

mfastboot.exe oem lock begin
mfastboot.exe oem lock

BTW has anyone attempted locking and unlocking back...? Will the unlock key sent to us earlier via mail be sufficient to UNLOCK AGAIN or resubmission to Motorola is required..?
[Moto G General] AgentChaos:
Wow, someone got it wrong. you will get an OTA with unlocked bootloader but the update wont install when rooted, you must have 100% stock system wise. stock kernel, stock recovery. no supersu, no busybox, and no xposed. Only then the update will install. However if you are rooted, you can download the ota file. backup it up from the cache folder. then unroot. because after installing the update, the ota zip file will be deleted.
[Moto G General] wabicek:
Please calm down everybody, there is already a lot of speculation. I believe that we will be able to upgrade both locked and unlocked devices with stock roms and recoveries.

Lets wait for the release, it's in near future.
[Moto G General] MarckozZ:
I think that key is one use only, since it needs to be requested to Motorola. In addition, since unlocking the bootloader voids warranty, I assume that code is just one use only, you can't expect to relock the bootloader and have your warranty back.. Maybe someone can give it a try.

EDIT: Maybe you can read this... But I'm not sure if this procedure works, and Im not going to relock mt BL so, just read an see if this works! :fingers-crossed:
[Moto G General] ==vj==:
No no..! I am not looking for warranty. I was looking for safely upgrading to stock android L when it arrives.

And this is first time I hear that a locked bootloader was insisted from Motorola support. And I had similar reactions like all others here "What..! locked bootloader, it won't be" :)

I too believe only pure stock (fastboot install) would be sufficient for upgrading stock firmware without locking boot loader. But again wondering why did Motorola insist that :D Also that android L is very tight on security measures forced me think of relocking and unlocking back process. Hope to be not required as its a mess process to lock and unlock back :)
[Moto G General] MarckozZ:
Relock bootloader wont be necesary... That was just a rumor from someone that doesn't know much about this things maybe.. See here. :silly:
[Moto G General] ==vj==:
Haha ya. The moto xpert himself used that word "no unlocked bootloader". Guess the rumour plagued from here. Maybe he was over excited to explain that we need to be pure stock :p ;)

But anyway , unlocked bootloader would cause no problem is the conclusion :)
[Moto G General] Cronis:
I actually own both devices so here is my take.

Moto G cricket wireless ($50) vs Republic Wireless Moto X ($300)

For $50 no way you can beat this particular Moto G's specs vs price

Cam is worse than the Moto X, but thats not saying a whole lot because the Moto X has a pretty bad cam

Lacks always on features although the only one I really miss is the "breathing screen" which allowed me to see the time without turning on my phone. Also the ability to quick view a text without turning on my phone was really nice.

Screen is pretty comparable honestly, Moto X has slightly more vivid colors, otherwise both are great.

You can tell the Moto G is not quite as buttery smooth as the Moto X, occasionally you get a little jitter but its almost imperceptable. Still a very speedy phone.
[Moto G General] mato_d007:
If you want you can install the xperia keyboard on any phone, including of course the Moto G and use the keyboard you love.
[Moto G General] The Closet Candian:
- I wouldn't leave much faith in Motorola.

- They've become a bottle-rocket company.

- So many issues with their devices and the silence coming from their support has been deafening.

- I still haven't gotten 4.4.4 on US Retail so I'll believe it when I see it.

- There are STILL bugs they are aware of but refuse or cannot fix because of defective hardware or lack of development.

- But with broken promises and a refusal to make things right I am irritated with the company.

- I know other companies are far worse but at this point I would rather not have a phone.

- Maybe the higher end phones in the future wont be as much of a disappointment.

I was basically told that I wasn't as valued as a costumer because I'm American and the Moto G was purely intended for the India market.
[Moto G General] josip-k:
I dont understand your language. Your words are nonsense.
[Moto G General] mik0tsi:
am i fked bv i rooted my phone few weeks again...:crying:

Should i unroot IF android L releases or wait for the ROM. Is't gonna be even close as stable as the real version :/
[Moto G General] travioso:
Most likely you could go either way.. you could always flash to stock whenever the release is available for your phone and ota it.. just speculation but i don't think it's that far fetched.. Most likely there will be flashable debloated roms among others..
[Moto G General] Reebee87:
Sounds like you've bought a completely different phone to me.

- bought my Moto G 8GB in may 2014, living in germany

- came with 4.4.2 installed

- update to 4.4.4 OTA released somewhat later (I don't really know when it was avaible officially)

- stock battery use might be pretty high compared to custom ROMs, as long as they were in a stable and reliable state

- compared to it's price it's really smooth and I encountered nearly no big errors, however, I should note that I had a Galaxy S1 before, which is - compared to current devices - the very low-end of devices today

All in all I don't see why the G is a bad device nor why you blame Motorola for being a bad company, especially when you admit that other companies are worse.
[Moto G General] petraru1:
I am a power user, and i know a thing or two about flashing and optimizing things on Android, but i dont feel the need of a custom ROM, the stock ROM for me is the smoothest and thanks to xposed framework i have all the cool features custom ROMs have :) this is my first phone that i didnt flash other rom, and i had alot before, even the S2 after 1 year was slowing down and i flashed CM... with motorola after a year the phone is in prime condition with latest android version so its hard for me not to love this company.
[Moto G General] crutzulee:
Glad you identified yourself as an American.. I'd hate for someone to think you were Canadian because of your username..
[Moto G General] vlt96:
You really are the only one complaining about Motorola, I never even thought about getting a Motorola phone until I got my Moto G (16GB DS), never been happier, getting official updates faster than custom ROMs for my other devices (and the S3 mini and P500 have incredible development, still 4.4.4 on a 4 year old budget device)

After 2 months, I forgot the Moto G in my pocket when entering the sea, needless to say, it's dead and irreparable... But I gave up after 2 weeks and got a 4G model (cheaper in Romania, wtf)... Wanted the 2nd gen but... 5 inch...

I don't get it, if you say Motorola is a bad OEM, which one is a good one?

Samsung? Lol...

LG? Bloat

HTC? Maybe, but the prices... It's like a nice apple, not that bad actually.

Sony? Horrible ui IMO, my mom got an ICS update on a GB device and well... The ui is exactly the same... Even the lockscreen. New one's are getting better, but I just dislike it...

Who do you have faith in?

Sent from my XT1039
[Moto G General] petraru1:
Nice to see another Romanian fellow here :)

In my opinion the moto g its the only close to a nexus device, but in Romania the nexus devices are very expensive, i know VAT (TVA) is bigger but to overpriced. I wouldn't rush in buing right now the new moto g because there might be new devices coming with new qualcomm devices on 64 bit, and maybe they will be at the same price. I wonder how much HTC desire 820 will cost in our country
[Moto G General] vlt96:
Yeah, se have horrible prices on the nexuses, we not only have this freaking 24% tax, but also we have no playstore, so the phones are provided by 3rd parties in batches from other stores...

But still, the moto G is my dream phone, I don't care about the 2nd gen, I wanted to have my next phone to be something like a mini nexus, a quad core with a nice price, and this is exactly what moto g is! I now have 2 of them (one is bricked of course) but I can't live without it

Sent from my XT1039
[Moto G General] The Closet Candian:
- Nobody at this point.

- I really hope Apple gets their act together since other manufacturers have been such a disappointment with Android.

- I would rather save up and get something quality than all of these defective devices.

- If I had an option to either pay $2,000 US for a phone with ZERO hardware issues and ZERO software issues that would last me 5 years I would opt for that and have less stress in my life.

- I'm tired of spending $200-500 US for broken promises and broken phones every other year.

- It doesn't matter the Android phone manufacturer, it doesn't matter the model. Every android phone has one or more of these issues listed below and more not listed.

defective or inferior camera

defective GPS

defective Wifi

defective cell reception

slow web connectivity(3G)

defective battery

defective display

out of date and lagging software

lack of support

I know it sounds like I'm asking for world. We've come a long way from corded phones and black and white TVs. But all I'm asking for something to work. We crammed a Computer, TV, Phone, Movie Theater, Music Player, Navigation System, and more to fit in the palm of our hand. IMPRESSIVE. But now what I want to see is a working device. In my line of work I need a working camera without issues, I need a phone that I can make calls with, I need a reliable connection to the internet, I need GPS for travel. I'm not going forward but backward, I'm going to go out buy a camera again, buy a GPS again, buy a laptop again, and buy a phone that can make and receive calls. Can you take a guess how much it will cost? About $2,000 US and I won't have any of the headache.

Motorola was suppose to take Google and Android to the next level, sure a few things came out of it, it wasn't the experience I was hoping for. With the amount of money these companies are making I could release a phone that would fix everything I listed, they have no excuse.

FYI: Motorola confirmed India is getting Android L for Moto G (Gen2) no promise for first Gen Moto G, or even Android L outside of India, how does that make you feel?
[Moto G General] vlt96:
1. 1st gen IS getting L anyway, 3rd party or Motorola, it will 100%

Now let me start with your list:

1. The camera on phones is just a convenience, and it's good enough as it is on all my phones (the front camera on my S3 mini was horrible, but useless anyway)

2. GPS worked on all my devices, the Moto G one even works indoors... main problem is with CyanogenMod, they still didn't get their **** together with GPS... But stock, never an issue

3. Wi-Fi - NEVER had something defective about it, the problems are mainly caused by router firmware or compatibility. My P500 didn't connect to the router in our room in Vienna, but it did on the netbook, didn't complain though.

4. My apartment doesn't have 3G reception when away for more than 5 meters from the window, in the bathroom I don't even get 2G on my Nokia... I still have Wi-Fi and 2G on the phones there...

5. 3G speed is up to the carrier... having a 7 Mbps network at home and getting around 16 Mbps on 3G, I ain't complaining, EVER.

6. My P500 still has the 5 hour screen on time it had 3 years ago, shut the fudge up about battery... That's related to the OEM, my S3 mini DOES kill batteries, but I threw that phone in it's box to rot.

7. "defective display" - what do you mean? All touchscreen devices risk having that, so... never had an issue myself, but my sister had her tablet not respond to touch well, she sent it to the service, back in 1 week as good as new. THAT'S IN THE WARRANTY, USE YOUR RIGHT AS A BUYER!

8. All my 3 devices are running 4.4.4, this is why we are users of XDA...

9. Have you ever used the Motorola website? Yes, support works... Have you ever talked to Samsung? (Ok, better not buy a Samsung phone)

You just sound like one of guys who got a Samsung phone and regretted, so it's all about Android... No, it's about choosing the right device...
[Moto G General] petraru1:
Do you know that ios 7 on 4s is crapp? The phone is crashing all the time, there is LAG, and when ios 7 was released the 4s was 2 years old, please get your facts straight, you paid 180-200$ for a phone and you want to work like a 1000-2000$ device... People cant be pleased in any way, if the device was free i think you will have the same complain :)

The only con i have for the moto g is the camera, but it takes OK photos at that price. If you want to have a stable phone with no lag dont install any mod or custom rom, i have the moto g for almost a year, i have been upgrading from 4.3 to 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 and i never experienced any issues NEVER, because i didn't mess with the software. P.S Sony SP is much expensive, with a better specs and its still on 4.3 and sony will not upgrade the phone, samsung doesn't update theyr phone never, and htc is very slow, so motorola is aces in my book.
[Moto G General] The Closet Candian:
- You missed the point and went on a unnecessary rant. In the last 3 years I've used HTC, Samsung, LG, and Motorola. All of them had one or more of the issues I listed which is unacceptable. I watch video reviews. I've read reviews. I've read other post here on XDA about KNOWN ISSUES of other devices. I don't pay for my work phones, the Moto G was a personal back up. I don't eat drink and sleep XDA like some sort of creepy cult following.

- I'm frustrated with the choices of Android devices, people deserve better.

- I'm disappointed with Motorola, I bet I'm not the only one, we might have actually seen a Motorola Nexus device.

- This is all my opinion, like it or lump it, I hope Motorola does release Android L on all Moto G devices, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

---------- Post added at 04:17 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:54 AM ----------

- Who said anything about the iPhone 4s or IOS7? I said I hope Apple gets their act together and they might make a really good phone.

- I'm not a fanboy of a company I'm a fanboy of a working product.

- If Apple makes a good device that is an incentive for other manufactures to make something better, and vice versa.

- Good for you, you haven't been plagued with all the problems many other Moto G owners and even myself have reported.

I will mention 2 issues that I've experienced with STOCK Android on my Retail US Moto G.

cellular tower connectivity

wifi connectivity

- Those are HUGE issues. You can't blame the carrier every time. I have 2 phones on the same network, sometimes one works and one doesn't, that is a problem. Even if I use different sims or a different carrier.

- The camera is soooo bad but that is my least concern.

- Motorola is quickly mass producing Moto G (Gen2) units, many are going to the India market and I doubt that was the only reason. I won't stick my head in the sand and ignore the hardware issues.
[Moto G General] tohigh:
Where can i download?
[Moto G General] petraru1:
I was giving the example with the 4s and ios 7 because even if you pay top money you cant get 4 years of support. I get what you are saing, but companies inovate all the time with the new launch of a phone, so you can expect some issues. Yes i would love a perfect device, but i dont belive it exist yet. We could just hope, the near perfect devices from my pont of view are top high end devices from HTC, iPhone 6 and Nexus devices. But from my experience, everything with electronics has bugs, TV, computers etc. we could only hope for the best :)