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[G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcviado:
So I'm on the verge of purchasing this phone. Ever since it became official they said it was already available for purchase.I go on to the Motorola website and click buy after I go to checkout it says "availability: Pre-Order" I didn't go with the full purchase because that got me wondering if its fully available to buy or if its only for pre-order. Can anybody who purchased one or planning on buying on confirm its available?
[G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mnishamk:
It's available. Bought it on Flipkart. Sending from it now.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kristianity77:
Hi All

I've had my note 2 now for a while and for the past 6 months have been using a 4.3 ROM which is decent enough and has support for the Xperia Walkman player along with the Clearaudio+ option which I think is fantastic and provides much better quality audio over the stock Note 2.

Trouble is, this Rom, as good as it is, after a few months slows to a crawl for some reason and I have to keep starting from scratch (a common issue it seems with this Rom). So am on the lookout for something similar, and newer, perhaps based on KitKat. Doesn't need to have any Xperia software tied with it, but obviously anything with much improved software on the audio side of things is a must.

Anyone point me towards a suitable Rom?
[Fire TV General] no_spam_for_me:
Hi,

I'm one of the lucky guys which had ordered during the first day so maybe they will really deliver at 25. September...

Because of the new unrootable '51.1.2.0_user_512073320' FW I hope they will deliver it with an older preinstalled FW.

(http://xdaforums.com/fire-tv/general/ota-update-51-1-2-0-t2847751)

AFTVnews.com wrote a really good guide to avoid to update to the new '51.1.2.0_user_512073320' FW

http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-setup-a-new-fire-tv-without-blocking-root

He also list all the domains requested by his Fire TV.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=54964983&postcount=92

Because I have no idea if it is identical at the German AFTV I will connect the AFTV via Ethernet (crossover-cable) to a notebook running wireshark and/or HTTPNetworkSniffer to monitor the first action ...

Greetings

BTW:

"To prevent spam to the forums, new users must wait five minutes between posts. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed."

=> maybe one of the moderators will be like to remove this restriction. THX
[Fire TV General] zuz242:
I ordered mine half a day later, so I might be with the second shipment o_O

Lets hope we have a rootable firmware by then.
[Fire TV General] buffhr:
I ordered mine on Saturday Evening and it was stating before January 1st 2015 already. What I am wondering is does the menu offer language change as I dont really understand German....
[Fire TV General] adop40:
I ordered mine 1 day after the presentation. I hope it will be here on 25th this month.

And it would be so nice if I could root this box to watch movies from my HDD or USB stick with MX movie player.

Gesendet von meinem C6903 mit Tapatalk
[Fire TV General] DarkwingHB:
Ich dachte, das hier wäre ein Deutscher Amazon Fire TV Beitrag??
[Fire TV General] HolzwurmMarkus:
Yes, but forum language is english ;) for German we have the Android forum every german knows :p but they are not creating a fire tv forum also after asking....

I ordered my AFTV on the 7.Sept. at 9 o clock in the morning and the estimatet delivery will not be before 1st january :(:crying:

Hopefully there will be a way to root the new firmware or downgrade etc.

Markus
[Fire TV General] mazurson:
Ordered mine on the 5th of September and didn´t get any info about shipping dates. Only "when its available". Well at least there will be time to see if its rootable until then.

I´m pretty sure you can change it to English right away ;)
[Fire TV General] houston_:
I ordered mine on the Sunday with prime promo, shipment should have occurred on 25. This month, I think.

But anyway...

After reading about the disadvantages of the box (especially the unsure rootability and no way of mounting a hdd without root) I have cancelled my order.

Now I am waiting for a Android TV box from China. There is a really good competition out there.

But the hot price of 49€ won't be touched by them...

Also some boxes are still more expensive than 99€...

But I will have no problems with rooting etc. since they are often rooted from factory (some factory's even searching guys to create custom roms for it, for example the tbr box tronsmart orion r28, or the openhour).

I think I will live with the higher price and freedom of doing whatever I want with that box. Since I am not want to use prime more than the free month.

(Hoping xda will adopt these on their "family")
[Fire TV General] bloodgnome:
Just pick one of the supported boxes from Freaktab.com.

Like the Beelink R89. They have a great support Community and are more Powerfull then the Fire TV (40.000 Antutu Points vs. 25.000).
[Fire TV General] houston_:
I was thinking about the tronsmart Vega s28 (or similar, amlogic s802-H soc)

But I wait for the already mentioned Tronsmart Orion.

I also have a eye on a few threads over at freaktab about the rockchip soc and some boxes/sticks to have a constant flow of informations about these boxes.

But thanks ?
[Fire TV General] bloodgnome:
While the Amlogic S802 is awesome the RK3288 beats it (Not so much by Antutu 30.000 vs. 40.000) but the GPU the S802 uses is still the Mali 400 (The 8-Core Variant). This leads to higher power consumption and the S802 is allways pretty warm/hot. The RK3288 has the new Mali which is great for future games ect. and runs cooler.

You can also see this by looking at the power supply...most of the S802 Boxes have a 3A or 3.5A Power supply while the RK3288 ones have 2A or 2.5A.
[Fire TV General] no_spam_for_me:
Update 51.1.3.0 -> German Language

http://xdaforums.com/fire-tv/general/software-update-version-51-1-3-t2876527

=> http://www.aftvnews.com/overview-of-software-update-51-1-3-0_user_513011520/

" • German Language

A new option to select a language has been added under the “System” menu. Currently, there is only one option other than English, and that’s German. This is no doubt in preparation for the Fire TV being released in Germany later this week on September 25th."

shi**** (every other english word will automaticly killed by forum-system ;) )...

(http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire...-new-software-update-51-1-3-0_user_513011520/)

BTW:

"To prevent spam to the forums, new users must wait five minutes between posts. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed."
[Fire TV General] sammy98:
I just updated yesterday my US FireTV.

Menus are German, Timezone is correct now. And the best part: German Amazon Prime works.

I lost root, but i dont need it anymore - XBMC still running

Sammy98
[Fire TV General] no_spam_for_me:
THX

I think, if need for 'German Amazon Prime', they will deliver it with 51.1.3.0...

But because I need root much more then 'German Amazon Prime' (e.g. performance tests, USB drive (e.g. game folder)...) I'm not really happy about this...

We will see...
[Fire TV General] rbox:
Once I am able to release recovery, I will be releasing a prerooted 51.1.3.0.
[Fire TV General] no_spam_for_me:
:)

EDIT

But isn't the problem it must be rooted to do a manually update?

=> http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-manually-upgrade-or-downgrade-the-amazon-fire-tv/
[Fire TV General] rbox:
Oh, looks like I misread your post. Yes, if you buy the German one new and it comes with 51.1.3.0 then you'll be screwed. If you already have one or buy a US one with an earlier version and then update with a prerooted 51.1.3.0, then you'd be fine.
[Fire TV General] Severus15:
I ordered my German Fire TV on just the 2nd day in the morning. I've got an Email with delivery notice of the 8th of October. So I guess it's not that bad like it was told from Amazon.

But I'm a bit unsure now, because I need some kind of Vpn for it (at least for YouTube and sometimes for Netflix) and if I would change in the Rooter my other devices won't work.
[Fire TV General] daschacka:
It is official.

I will get my fire tv from amazon germany on 25.09.

I talked with amazon:
[Fire TV General] no_spam_for_me:
Do you ask them because of the 25. or do you get any information at email?

(But you know they are strike at the moment :) )
[Fire TV General] eL_D:
There is no need for switching to the US Store.

I bought (it´s free) smpc using my phone in the german amazon app store and sideloaded it to my firetv. it was neccessary to syncronize my account (can be found in the settings) and spmc appeared in the apps tab. but i prefer using xbmc instead of spmc. don´t know why =)
[Fire TV General] sun.chaser:
Has somebody managed to get DD/DTS via optical out (SPDIF) with sideloaded XBMC?

Only 2ch-Stereo is possible with my setup atm. If yes which release do you use? with SPMC I was not able to change all settings in the audio menu. (yes I switched to expert mode).
[Fire TV General] Cirno5:
Yup, 13.2
[Fire TV General] sun.chaser:
Can you give some more details? using XBMC 13.2 too.

Activated in AFTV Setup "Dolby Digital via Optical" and in XBMC sound setup 5.1 Channels with Passthrough enabled. Mode "Optimized". Any other settings to do?
[Fire TV General] furryhamster:
Do you want 5.1 sound via optical or hdmi? Cause you choose "by otpical" in FTV setup, you tried to get 5.1 over the HDMI cable?
[Fire TV General] sun.chaser:
I want to output all via Optical (SPDIF), not HDMI because my AV-Receiver is not capable.

What do I have to set in XBMC in this case?
[Fire TV General] Cirno5:
Settings->System->Audio Output-> Enable Passthough, Dolby Digital (AC3) Capable Reciever and DTS Capable Reciever.

In FireTVs settings You can either choose DD Plus Automatic or DD over Optical.
[Fire TV General] sun.chaser:
This is exactly what I have configured but only 2ch Stereo :(

Trying an older build of XBMC now.
[Fire TV General] HellsDelight:
I tried some few Videos and most of the time it sounds like 2ch Stereo too for me and as if it's only coming from the front speakers. I found one Video on which I had very little (and low volume) Surround of Rain and Water so I'm actually unsure if 5.1 works. I need to watch some more Vids as I just received it today :) Surround in general sadly is not happening so much in general, even on BD's :(

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I "accidentally" updated my Amazon Fire TV as I thought it's still rootable but found out this new version is not (for the moment).

But what I wonder is as the changelog shows the new FW Update has lots of Germany specific changes like German Account support for Prime, German Language (that I don't care for), etc. if it even would make any sense at the moment to have an older FW version that is rootable? Maybe it's useless for German Users then when they try to use Prime for example but might be able to do everything else?
[Fire TV General] Cirno5:
But you do have the FireTV connected via Toslink cable? (Just to make sure)
[Fire TV General] rivak:
PS3 Controller+Fire TV

Has anyone found a way to connect a PS3 Controller to Fire TV? I found a solution with an app called "Sixaxis Controller", but that requires root access which is most likely not available on the German Fire TVs ..
[Fire TV General] jaydee 77:
I'm also using this setup but getting script errors with plex remote helper.

xbmc gotham 13.2

plexbmc 3.4.6 beta 3

plexbmc helper 3.4.2

plex server 0.9.9.14.531 (synology nas)
[Fire TV General] sun.chaser:
Yes ;) otherwise there would be no audio ;)
[Fire TV General] Drake008:
Got mine yesterday and installed XBMC. It's just a bit dissapointing that you cannot create a shortcut on the Startscreen. You always have to go to the settings menu and from there to there and so on and son on. I hope that there will be a way to get this sometime. ATM this is just for me but when I give it to my parents they need this shortcut else they won't be able to use it.
[Fire TV General] calvin42:
my plex remote helper script error disappeared when I switched to the amber skin!

But now I have lost my XBMC Settings after switching the Amber skin to german :(

---------- Post added at 03:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:35 PM ----------

install Ikono TV, then use adbFire to install Llama and change the Icon of IkonoTV to XBMC and start XBMC with it ;)
[Fire TV General] chemstar:
there is a worksop article on golem site describing how to create a shortcut for xbmc
[Fire TV General] Drake008:
OK. Will try that. Thanks
[Fire TV General] Cirno5:
xbmc gotham 13.2

plexbmc 3.4.5

plexbmc helper 3.4.2

plex server 0.9.9.14.531

You basically have to check that settings are the same both in plexbmc helper and xbmc webserver (settings->services->webserver).

I used port 8080 a personal username as well as password.

In plexbmc helper set it up either manually (port...in my case 8080, user, password) or to automatic by enabling "use xbmc client name" and "use xbmc webserver settings".

That should do the trick. Other than that it may be that it is because you are using a beta (though I think that is unlikely)
[Fire TV General] Pat1981:
could someone pls try spotify connect via ios device? my aftv changed the name from Pats Fire TV to AFTB_0MXT (Amazon Set Top Box)

Solution: reboot via rc - select and play button for 7 seconds
[Fire TV General] b2014:
Does Amazon Music work on the german version?

I don't have a Music Icon as seen on some screenshots...
[Fire TV General] Drake008:
Works fine from Golem BUT. The Icon moves when I watch movies from the normal "desktop". Also the Icon from IkonoTv in under Apps is still the WatchArt Icon.

Is there a way to have the Icon on the "Desktop" fixed (as first position) and or can I change the other Icon under Apps to the XBMC one, too.
[Fire TV General] daschacka:
I had support via live chat.

The fire tv will be 25.09 in germany available.

They told me that they will ship them on 24.09 so that we will get them on 25.09 in our hands. And that the latest sw will be in it so no root for us
[Fire TV General] Xedos9er:
When did you order your FTV?

Can you already read in your order status, that your device will be delivered on the 25.09?

I ordered mine on 4. September, and there still is no information about the shipping date. They only write, that they need more time to tell me a shipping date :(

This is the original text:
[Fire TV General] daschacka:
Yes they wrote there it will be delivered on 25.09

I ordered also on 4.09 at 4o clock morning

As far as i know the ppl who ordered on 4.09 in the morning will get it at 25.09 and after that they will get it at 1.11
[Fire TV General] sammy98:
Just got the email - my germna ftv is send. Arrives tomorrow

So i can use the converted us ftv for playing around with the hardware :)

Edit: ordered 7:00 on the first day when the pre-selling started for 49 Euro

Sammy98
[Fire TV General] Xedos9er:
Ok that´s the reason why you get it on release date....

I ordered in the evening :(

The Amazon chat told me today, they can´t guarantee that I get it before 01.January, it could also be 15. January:eek: That really sucks.

Maybe I will try to buy one from ebay, but they are overpriced at the moment.:mad:
[Fire TV General] deewad:
Or u import a US version and be able to root it ;) Staples sells it for 74$ but dont ship outside US. But also amazon and bestbuy offering it for 85$

I read about this service to import US stuff which won't be shipped outside US normally www.borderlinx.com/DE/de/

Cant say anything about it but that could be an option for the staples offer.
[Fire TV General] loekf:
Just get it via eBay. That's what I did a few weeks ago. I live in the Netherlands.It came with an early firmware, it automatically upgraded

to the firmware released in July (I think), which can still be rooted. I didn't see an upgrade to the latest one yet,
[Fire TV General] man1acc:
Reading the words "unrootable" and 51.1.3.0 in the same sentence does not give me much confidence.

It would be essential for me to run an USB Stick with .mkvs at the ne FTV - so at the moment it's nothing more than my PS3 alreadys is. :(

Can anyone tell if the "unrootable" feature will be kept for the german FTV?
[Fire TV General] Xedos9er:
It´s unrootable at the moment, not forever. But nobody can tell you when it´s rootable, cause there has to be found a new exploit.
[Fire TV General] daschacka:
I also got message from Amazon, my FTV Is also on its way and will arrive tomorrow :)
[Fire TV General] chemstar:
I ordered also on 4.09 at 9o clock in the evenening and it is on the way
[Fire TV General] Xedos9er:
Just checked my order, it was at 9:30PM. So only 30 minutes after your´s. Very strange....

i don´t even have a delivery date listened on my order page:mad:
[Fire TV General] skyball2:
...that's so mean! I ordered at 00:06 on 4.9. and I have no delivery date yet... grrr

EDIT: ...so now it's on its way. Should arrive tommorow. They must watch that XDA... ;)
[Fire TV General] alex1301:
Guys, you don't believe that amazon is going to let the people who ordered later wait. That would be the dumbest thing for their image.
[Fire TV General] Cirno5:
Ordered on the 4th and on its way now
[Fire TV General] no_spam_for_me:
ME too, but there maybe exist a way to root it

http://xdaforums.com/fire-tv/general/hardware-root-via-emmc-chip-t2885344

but I think only for 1,2,3 people :eek:
[Fire TV General] man1acc:
Mine has been delivered :)
[Fire TV General] skyball2:
...what's the firmware version?
[Fire TV General] man1acc:
I will be home in 40min and tell you...
[Fire TV General] Schlicki:
I have mine here and try to block the initial OTA update for maybe keeping a rootable software version.

I'm trying to use 'method 2' from the AFTVnews instruction but can't get it running.

I disconnected right at the beginning of the software search but it took just a break of a less than a second until download start. Now FTV always wants to update the software or do nothing else.

Any hints to keep the delivered software for me?
[Fire TV General] S.D.Richards:
Mine is here, tried everything to block the update(DNS, router, pulling plug), all to no avail. There seems to be no longer the ~1min timeout after which it continues booting.

I let it download the update, then kill the update process by pulling the plug, nothing :(

So I just let it ran, now on the latest, currently un-rootable version. But well, for 49€, XBMC runs really well and that was mostly what I wanted.
[Fire TV General] Schlicki:
Kobi aka XBMC is still installable?

Looks like I must also get the latest update.... :crying:
[Fire TV General] f2:
Yeah, same here. No way to skip the initial 'Connect to the internet and download latest firmware process'.
[Fire TV General] S.D.Richards:
Yes, easily and works like a charm(well, at least the UI is really snappy, compared to my Raspberry. It's still indexing data, but even that is plenty fast).

1. Update the FTV and shake your fist in anger while it does it's work

2. setup your useraccount/login

3. go to settings, developer settings, turn on both option

4. note down ip address from settings/network

5. download the apk from XBMC/Kodi's site

6. sideload via adb (takes a minute or so)

7. go to settings, apps, all applications, xbcm, run

(I'm still deciding what route to go to launch it easier, oh well)

After the initial update, I put the blockers back, just to be sure if someone should find a way to root it.
[Fire TV General] deewad:
And is SPMC avaible in the aftv appstore?
[Fire TV General] Schlicki:
Welche Version braucht das FTV?

SPMC is there.
[Fire TV General] S.D.Richards:
Yes, here: http://www.amazon.de/Semperpax-SPMC/dp/B00MK49LL8/

Didn't try it, though.

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http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Amazon_Fire_TV Anleitung + Link zur apk sind da drin.
[Fire TV General] Schlicki:
Software version now is the 51.1.3.0..... :(

I have also reactivated the blocking of amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net and softwareupdates.amazon.com

but now the FTV cannot connect to the network...
[Fire TV General] S.D.Richards:
Did you do a reboot after setting up the block? I didn't and so far network works as it's still indexing my files.

As far as speed goes, it takes ~1-2s from pressing play (buffering) to XBMC starting playback, connection is stable and now problems so far. Can someone link me a h.264 10bit sample, I'd like to try that(or tell me directly if it's not powerful enough, should you know it).
[Fire TV General] man1acc:
So question: I started the FTV and blocked (tested WLAN and LAN) the Update. FireTV isnt starting and keeps telling me: NO!

Is there any chance blocking the update and getting it to work?
[Fire TV General] S.D.Richards:
Not really, short from opening up the thing, soldering the emmc to a reader and making modifications. There might be a possibility to spoof your pc being amazon's server and sending something, but as I'm sure their packages are signed, that won't help that much.

If you don't need it right now, put it away for a few days, now that more people are getting this firmware, maybe we're lucky and someone finds a rooting method.
[Fire TV General] loekf:
I recommend 14.0 alpha 3. Works much better for high quality 1080p H.264 files. Very stable. However, I didn't try NFS yet. Could be

that NFS would solve my stuttering issues on 13.2
[Fire TV General] f2:
Don't waste your time sideloading the Netflix app. You can login, but you can't select any movie with the remote, so it's useless at the moment.
[Fire TV General] Schlicki:
I have the problem, that all start screens are now not shown because of connection problems to amazon services. When I start an app via the system-menu or by voice command, everything works fine.

I have only blocked "amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net" via Fritzbox blacklist to prevent further software updates....

And another question: what App do I need for Spotify playback? The App I found via FTV-Appshop (when it was working 2 hours ago) is only for Spotify connect......
[Fire TV General] simondo22:
Someone try to block : amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net.

softwareupdates.amazon.com

With opendns.com?
[Fire TV General] SpeedyRS2:
I tried it with opendns. With no success. Update is installing.
[Fire TV General] man1acc:
Successfully installed XBMC/Kodi - took while , but with the rigth youtube guide it worked perfect.

So what now? :D

I am realizing that XBMC seems to have no use for me :D
[Fire TV General] simondo22:
So we had to find out where the german ftv is serching for updates

Edit; or we block the whole web without the sides ftv need for setup :D
[Fire TV General] AngelOfDeath:
XBMC with external USB Drives?

I also got my FTV today, but I'm still at work and couldn't try out. :(

There is no way to root at the moment, right?

Is it possible to connect an external USB Drive with Movies and play it with XBMC?

Greetz
[Fire TV General] Schlicki:
I use XBMC on the FTV to playback audio and video from my NAS. That runs very smooth and is much faster and smoother than on the RPi.

Is there a possibility to put XBMC in the applist on startscreen?
[Fire TV General] _sebha:
For that i installed "FiredTV" http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2782307

Sadly it seems the FireTV will not sleep when running FiredTV.... I hate it that there is no power switch..can´t unterstand that.